Pakistan overcame a blistering spell from Ravi Rampaul and some late panic against the impressive Devendra Bishoo to secure the series against West Indies with a three-wicket victory in Barbados. The hosts had collapsed feebly once again, but Pakistan were jolted by Rampaul's four strikes and needed the calm head of Misbah-ul-Haq, who remained cool as Bishoo threatened to turn the game again.

It became a more compelling contest than looked likely during another insipid batting display from West Indies. Then Pakistan again appeared to be cruising at 127 for 4 after a composed stand between Misbah and Hammad Azam. However, Bishoo benefited from some poor umpiring and hot-headed strokes to leave them needing 24 when Wahab Riaz joined Misbah, but there were eventually 29 balls to spare as Wahab launched two sixes in four deliveries to hurry a conclusion.

Misbah was roundly criticised for Pakistan's World Cup semi-final exit against India when his poorly-paced innings proved costly, but in this series he has provided vital ballast in an inexperienced order. Without him here, Pakistan would have lost. This was his third unbeaten score to secure a run chase - although he could have been stumped on 20 if part-time keeper Lendl Simmons had gloved the ball - and showed a technique, and composure, that was lacking among some of his team-mates.

Despite the early clatter of wickets the required rate was never an issue for Pakistan, which allowed Misbah to bed in and weather the tough passages while Rampaul was in action. This tour started on the slow, low pitch in St Lucia, where the ball barely got above knee height, but this Kensington Oval surface had far more pace and carry for the quick bowlers who were willing to bend their backs.

Ahmed Shehzad, fresh from his hundred three days ago, tried to pull Rampaul's first delivery and top-edged to a back-tracking Simmons and next delivery Asad Shafiq edged to second slip; suddenly the West Indian fans started to find their voice. Mohammad Hafeez was the next to fall to another top-edged pull, which was well taken by Bishoo, running towards deep square-leg, to leave the visitors 12 for 3.

Misbah's natural game is always to cut out risk and bat time; for Umar Akmal it is the opposite and he took the aggressive route. He struck five boundaries in a 27-ball stay before being undone by a wonderful delivery that bounced and shaved the glove as he tried to sway out of the line.

However, from there West Indies couldn't force another breakthrough as Misbah continued to be a steadying presence. Azam, in his first ODI innings, showed composure and pulled a free hit from Andre Russell for six. He also did well to leave the crease so swiftly after Asoka de Silva failed to spot a huge inside edge when he gave an lbw decision in Bishoo's favour - there is no DRS in this series.

Shahid Afridi's batting has disintegrated and, after two boundaries, it was predictable when he attempted a slog over midwicket. Mohammad Salman then showed his inexperience by not running hard when he thought the ball would reach the boundary and was bowled by a flipper that he shouldn't have been facing. Fortunately for Salman it didn't cost the match.

But while West Indies showed spirit in the field their innings followed a depressingly familiar pattern as they lost 8 for 53 after Simmons and Darren Bravo had formed a solid platform with an 86-run stand. Once they were separated, the innings almost came to a stand-still and soon fell in a heap amid a mixture of prods, pokes and hopeless slogs.

Marlon Samuels, who is struggling to adjust back to international cricket, was again culpable in the loss of momentum as he took 35 balls over his 18, while Kirk Edwards laboured until being run out by a direct hit from backward point. Aside from Simmons, and to a lesser extent Darren Bravo, there is precious little confidence in West Indies' line up and it showed as the innings faded away with Wahab taking two in three balls.

Devon Smith's horror trot against Hafeez's offspin had continued when he was trapped lbw first ball, the third time in a row he had fallen in such fashion. After reaching fifty from 61 balls Simmons had time to double his score, but drove a fraction too early and offered a low chance to Saeed Ajmal who took it well in his follow through.

The onus was on Darren Bravo not to follow a similar path of giving away a useful innings, however, having struggled to increase the tempo, he then played across a full ball from Hafeez as the stall kicked in. Any hopes of pushing past 200 vanished in the space of three balls from Wahab as he had both Darren Sammy and Dwayne Bravo caught at long on. A little bit of sensible batting and this could have been West Indies' match.

As last two one day games are now just a practice games for Pakistan, They should concentrate on test side. Pakistan has never won a test series in West indies and this is a real opportunity for them. The way they batted in the last one day it clearly visible that they will have lot of problems against quality bowlers in the longer format. Younis khan is a must for the test side but I still think Muhammad yousuf can give a lot to the test side. The performance of Misbah shows that a these experience players are an asset to the team. Yousuf is of the same age as Misbah and he has a much better Test record than most other players. He still has few years left in him. Hafiz,Azhar, Younis, Misbah, Yousuf and Umer are ideal choices for a test format. PCB should not do the mistake like WICB did and should select the best team for the Test.

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on April 30, 2011, 21:53 GMT

i was a big fan of WI for a long time infact I love their style and attitude in the feild but very sorry to say that the team which has produced legends now can not even provide a club level team :(... I wish they can recover at their soonest and we will see the same stylish cricketers very soon.

motayyab
on April 30, 2011, 20:15 GMT

well don boys all tems play home and away you just play outside and still you win i think pakistani team beater than all othear 9 teams india got money IPL england got county cricket and money AUS got good team

dummy4fb
on April 30, 2011, 17:01 GMT

when will we west indians start winning again I am sick and tired of loosing and besides i always see opportunities to win but we never win. Good grief!!!

hardess699
on April 29, 2011, 23:44 GMT

again.......the wicb cannot be serious about this team......on a lighter note bishoo looks a very bright prospect.........if misbah batted like this at WC pak might be world champs rite now....LOLOL

a.syed81
on April 29, 2011, 20:45 GMT

@Zahidsaltin. I don't understand why you and others expect Afridi to bat and make runs for Pak. Be realistic and try to understand that he can't bat. He is a only middle overs bowler. He goes and tries to slog and if he is lucky then get some boundries (take those as PLUS). If he'll try to play like batsmen he will not even last 1 ball. I reckon he should come at number 8. Then IF he connects then pak can win in tense games. Because having him at number 6 or 7 is doing no good to team at all. Great to see Hammad doing fabulous with bat. Maybe we need to drop Keeper Salman and use Umer Akmal as Keeper. This way you can add 1 bowler, batsmen or all rounder.

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on April 29, 2011, 20:27 GMT

GREAT VICTORY BY GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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on April 29, 2011, 18:23 GMT

Time after time Afridi is having a hard time getting to double figures as a batsman . Misbah is doing what he should do as a captain when the team is in trouble ,like this 3 rd ODI, 2 nd ODI . He should avail the years he has left, use his God gifted batting prowess to bring up his batting average. He is trailing behind players with less batting capability. MY advice: He can only do it by giving up captaincy voluntarily ,just like Imran Khan did when he was at his peak... with grace.

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on April 29, 2011, 17:31 GMT

Now pakistan should give some chance to Sadaf , tanvir and Salahuddin

USAPakCricFollower
on April 29, 2011, 16:38 GMT

@umermuteeb. You should not be asking what happened to Misbah in the WC semi. You should ask what happened to all the others including Afridi when the team needed him. Misbah scored the highest and if he had support he would have played at a faster pace. But when you have others throwing away their wickets you don't have a choice but to hunker down. Think about it. If Misbah had lost his wicket earlier we would not have made 200, sad to say against Indian bowling.

likeintcricket
on May 1, 2011, 14:20 GMT

As last two one day games are now just a practice games for Pakistan, They should concentrate on test side. Pakistan has never won a test series in West indies and this is a real opportunity for them. The way they batted in the last one day it clearly visible that they will have lot of problems against quality bowlers in the longer format. Younis khan is a must for the test side but I still think Muhammad yousuf can give a lot to the test side. The performance of Misbah shows that a these experience players are an asset to the team. Yousuf is of the same age as Misbah and he has a much better Test record than most other players. He still has few years left in him. Hafiz,Azhar, Younis, Misbah, Yousuf and Umer are ideal choices for a test format. PCB should not do the mistake like WICB did and should select the best team for the Test.

dummy4fb
on April 30, 2011, 21:53 GMT

i was a big fan of WI for a long time infact I love their style and attitude in the feild but very sorry to say that the team which has produced legends now can not even provide a club level team :(... I wish they can recover at their soonest and we will see the same stylish cricketers very soon.

motayyab
on April 30, 2011, 20:15 GMT

well don boys all tems play home and away you just play outside and still you win i think pakistani team beater than all othear 9 teams india got money IPL england got county cricket and money AUS got good team

dummy4fb
on April 30, 2011, 17:01 GMT

when will we west indians start winning again I am sick and tired of loosing and besides i always see opportunities to win but we never win. Good grief!!!

hardess699
on April 29, 2011, 23:44 GMT

again.......the wicb cannot be serious about this team......on a lighter note bishoo looks a very bright prospect.........if misbah batted like this at WC pak might be world champs rite now....LOLOL

a.syed81
on April 29, 2011, 20:45 GMT

@Zahidsaltin. I don't understand why you and others expect Afridi to bat and make runs for Pak. Be realistic and try to understand that he can't bat. He is a only middle overs bowler. He goes and tries to slog and if he is lucky then get some boundries (take those as PLUS). If he'll try to play like batsmen he will not even last 1 ball. I reckon he should come at number 8. Then IF he connects then pak can win in tense games. Because having him at number 6 or 7 is doing no good to team at all. Great to see Hammad doing fabulous with bat. Maybe we need to drop Keeper Salman and use Umer Akmal as Keeper. This way you can add 1 bowler, batsmen or all rounder.

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on April 29, 2011, 20:27 GMT

GREAT VICTORY BY GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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on April 29, 2011, 18:23 GMT

Time after time Afridi is having a hard time getting to double figures as a batsman . Misbah is doing what he should do as a captain when the team is in trouble ,like this 3 rd ODI, 2 nd ODI . He should avail the years he has left, use his God gifted batting prowess to bring up his batting average. He is trailing behind players with less batting capability. MY advice: He can only do it by giving up captaincy voluntarily ,just like Imran Khan did when he was at his peak... with grace.

dummy4fb
on April 29, 2011, 17:31 GMT

Now pakistan should give some chance to Sadaf , tanvir and Salahuddin

USAPakCricFollower
on April 29, 2011, 16:38 GMT

@umermuteeb. You should not be asking what happened to Misbah in the WC semi. You should ask what happened to all the others including Afridi when the team needed him. Misbah scored the highest and if he had support he would have played at a faster pace. But when you have others throwing away their wickets you don't have a choice but to hunker down. Think about it. If Misbah had lost his wicket earlier we would not have made 200, sad to say against Indian bowling.

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on April 29, 2011, 15:40 GMT

Pakistan team played as one Unit to secure series win against Windies.

I was glad Pakistan batting was put under pressure. I am sure Shehzad and Hafeez would learn alot from this game in how to play on different wickets although Hafeez should know better as he is more experienced. Shafiq and Umar got out to good deliveries. However, whilst we expct great things from Misbah, it was really Hammad Azam who stood out for me in his first ODI innings. This was the first time I have seen him batting and he impressed me with his calmness and technique. If it was not for the error by the umpire he would hae probably scored 50 on his debut. He is definitely another player for the future and his bowling can further develop. Afridi just needs to bat normally and runs will come. So far I am not impressed by the new wiket keeper and if he does not score runs I cannot see him having a future in the team. Now that Pakistan have won ODI series it is imperative they give opportunities to other players, they can also make room for other players by having Umar keep wicket.

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on April 29, 2011, 14:46 GMT

the basic mistake from w indies board was appointing a captian whose place himself was not secure in the 11 , lol

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on April 29, 2011, 13:46 GMT

pakistan should use the rest of the series to get some game time for usman and taufeeq and rest 2 of shehzad, shafiq and hafees. they should allow bit more game time for AZAM and should have a look at some players int he test series as well, id like to see shehzad in the tests and lets see how usman goes in these ODI's he is a test prospect too. Umar ackmal should be given another crack at test cricket too. As i said earlier misbah will be haard to get out and this was be4 1st game and then he has scored 3 not out 60+ innings, as long as he is in batting line up they'll win agaisnt WI

MuhammadArsalanHaider
on April 29, 2011, 13:41 GMT

@MISBAH UL HAQ & His Fans..
who cares about Misbah's consecutive 3 match winning innings. Even if he continues to score and win matches like these(meaningless matches) for next 4 years. Who cares about it.
The matter of fact is He was failed when Pakistan needed most. (referring to World Cup semifinal).

Luckily, Pak managed to scrape a win but the young guy Hammad was really impressive and I would say Pak won't miss Razzaq much.

His a bit slower in terms of pace with the ball but definitely more canny then, Razzaq was with ball.

Misbah is 36 and won't be around for long but Azhar Ali would be a perfect replacement because he is of the same mold.

cooljack_143
on April 29, 2011, 7:15 GMT

This current WI team HAS NO RIGHT TO GO TO 2015 Without playing qualifying matches with the MINNOWS and Bangladesh as well.ICC should look into the matter early before it gets too late.

cricfan04315875
on April 29, 2011, 7:14 GMT

Well done Misbah, shows Pakistan still needs him. I expect better performance from UMAR AKMAL. 30-40's scores are not for him as he is the next senior batsmen in the team after Misbah. Hope the batting coach will look into it.
Otherwise good to see Pakistan win thre times in a row chasing scores, whilst they are not the best of chasers.

sithnico
on April 29, 2011, 7:12 GMT

Why is Ashoka De Silva appointed as umpire in an ODI. When he gave one bad decision against India, he was prompty removed from umpiring after India's complaints. Now; if Pakistan had lost the game due to Ashoka's decision, and than if Pakistan were to protest, WILL ICC take the same decision to remove him from the ODI series as they did previously for INDIA??If not, Its just like the law of the jungle in Cricket:
MIGHT IS RIGHT!!!!!

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on April 29, 2011, 7:10 GMT

Great Work by Pakistan Team.......However the batting is still not up to the mark.....Pakistan should bat first and take confidence in the batting.

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on April 29, 2011, 7:09 GMT

This is all because of the IPL,All the well known players are playing for money than for their country.West Indies cricket board should take serious action against all those players.Playing in IPL should be banned

umermuteeb
on April 29, 2011, 6:39 GMT

hey how are you all i just want to say wat happend to misbah in semi final. they dont feel the feelings of their people how much expectations they have in semi final how much they are praying to Allah. anyways best of luck Pakistan team for winning the series

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on April 29, 2011, 6:37 GMT

They must include Smith who was successful in IPL

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on April 29, 2011, 6:34 GMT

They need Jerome Taylor as a lead bowler.

They need Chris Gayle as an opening batsman.

They need Chandrapul in middle order.

They need pollard to sparkle at end of innings.

anver777
on April 29, 2011, 6:33 GMT

Another poor display from WI team captained by out of form Sammy !!!! not only WI need a change in captaincy they also have to drop few players who are not up to international level......... OVER TO YOU WICB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dummy4fb
on April 29, 2011, 6:10 GMT

I think that if Pakistan is sincere to their game, they are the best team in the world. They have some solid players who can contribute to win any match from any situation. In the semi-final Pakistan could win the match very easily but their mismangement and bad fielding was responsibe to drop the chance. If everything was done according to cricketic plan and if they were inspired nicely I am sure now Pakistan play this series as champion.Pakistan needed an high profile coach like Karestan, Andy Flower. Pakistan fielding should be improved in a hurry. It was said that outfield of Pakistan is very hard so filders do not drive easily. We know that they have some athletic fielders.

simonviller
on April 29, 2011, 6:03 GMT

Please bring back Ramadin and Dr S mith to help in the rebuilding process . Neither of these two were given a fair chance .The last time around Smith was a much improved player just needing some more playing time and Ramadin needed a rest at the time . I think we should use two keepers to give each a break from all that work behind,with all those games being played . Does anyone else think the same ??

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on April 29, 2011, 5:49 GMT

west indies should have had gayle,chanderpaul,pollard etc big players not in the series..........

howahluvmehwestindies
on April 29, 2011, 5:39 GMT

@Randy_Wilson - I agree with you on Sammy. I admired his attitude to the game when he began his international career. He seemed a disciplined hard worker who used all of his limited cricket skills. I think the responsibility of captaincy is affecting this. At the very least, it's confusing him. It's as if he's unsure of his role in the team. Hence he's contributing very little with the bat or ball.
WICB, what's the point in having a captain that is not contributing with runs or wickets? If you're going to play a captain that will seldom contribute, you might as well play Darren Ganga as captain! At least he has leadership qualities and a good cricket brains for setting the field and playing the right bowler at the right time. And he's demonstrated these qualities many times under the pressure of defending small totals. Since you're in an experimental mood WICB, why not experiment with Ganga as captain and a middle order batsman if you're happy with a "non-contributory" captain?

PakSon
on April 29, 2011, 5:28 GMT

Well, I am agree with nearly all of you. Pakistan is playing with a much weaker team than them which creates a miss match. First thing is that WI is not playing with its B or C team. The absense of only Gayle cannot make it B or C team. If WI has players who can be catagorized as A team or International level, bring them in the field.

Secondly, if anyone call Windies a B or C team, then Pakistan is also not playing with its full capacity. They are also playing with many new guys who are making their debut in this series. Ranked 1 team(s) did also come at this ranking playing with many weaker team! They way Misbah, Mr. Reliable, played in this and in the previous matches of this series was wonderful. He is really a "Mard-e-Bohran" like JM Daad!!!

Junaid has to show something to retain his place in international squad as Hammad Azam is doing. Salman, as a wicket keeper, seems much quicker, active, tactive and accurate behind the wicket.

Best of luck Pakistan

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on April 29, 2011, 5:26 GMT

West Indies team isn't really as inexperienced as you guys are making out, it looks quite the same as Pakistan's in this series, a lot of youngsters and inexperienced players, a couple of old campaigners in Afridi and Bravo, the only big difference being Pakistan has Misbah in the middle order while WI don't have an experienced batter. This is being made into way too much of a big deal, Sarwan, Chanders and Gayle aren't dropped completely, the selectors wish to increase their talent pool right after the WC, it is understandable and Pakistan is doing the same, it has kinda worked too with Simmons and Bishoo being two great finds.

bigrishi
on April 29, 2011, 5:26 GMT

thanks for the kind comments guys, did not watch the match, so i apologize for inaccuracies of fact, however the sentiments i am trying to convey remain the same ie we need a change of attitude, either from the bottom up, or from the top down

husnainkhan459
on April 29, 2011, 5:04 GMT

the top order was due to such a performance after doing such a great job.i am
glad that their due work was done at the time when still pakistan was able to finish the game in its favour. well done!!!!!

howahluvmehwestindies
on April 29, 2011, 4:53 GMT

@VivGilchrist - excellent point of Misbah demonstrating the value of experience in the middle order. WI selectors are you taking note? That's where the steady no-risk approach typical of Chanderpaul or Nash is important. When your batting has begun to collapse, such a player will hold an end. Play two such players back to back in the middle order and more often than not, both ends will be protected, stemming the collapse. The trick is to choose such players who can increase their scoring rate once the consolidation has been effected or in the case of 50 overs, during the final 10 or 15 overs. I'm not sure of Nash but Chanderpaul has clearly demonstrated this ability to change gears as necessary, especially if the other batsman is doing likewise. Sarwan has also shown this ability but he needs to exercise more discipline in his shot selection in the early part of his innings. Now this is where a good coach is vital once the player is receptive and applies the coach's advice.

AndyZaltzmannsHair
on April 29, 2011, 4:36 GMT

@rayinto: Actually for Pakistan this ODI series gives them almost no points whatsoever. According to the ICC predictor, a 5-0 Pakistan white wash would only give them 1 point, yes one measly point in their rankings taking them from 104 to 105 points, and that's with a 5-0 win. Anything less and they get no points whatsoever. Makes a mockery of rankings really. Which is why I have never seen them as being wholly reliable.

Allblkevrythng
on April 29, 2011, 3:18 GMT

i'm a westindian and i gotta say that west indies is pathetic and has totally forgot how to win games on a consistent basis....

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on April 29, 2011, 3:12 GMT

The entire administration and management needs makeovers. If a team is selected on merit their is no way that Ramphal cannot make as he has been the most successful and consistent. Thus the pace bowling cupboard has Ramphal, Roach, Edwards, Taylor. Russell is not ready. The spin has Brown and Bishoo with Shillingford lurking in the background. Openers would be Gayle and Bharat with the youngster from Barbados and Simmons as the standbys. Its time to start blooding him and to put Devon Smith to pasture. Ramdin is still the best wicketkeeper around and none of the others tried have batted any better. The middle order must include Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Darren Bravo. Dwayne Bravo is still the best all rounder around and Brendon Nash is still the best batsman to keep one side going for long periods of time. So provided everyone is fit the first eleven should be Bharat, Gayle, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Dwayne Bravo/Brendon Nash, Ramdin, Ramphal, Edwards, Roach/Taylor, Bishoo.

Balb
on April 29, 2011, 2:49 GMT

Well Well. It was a team selected for only two ODI's. But ended up being three matches. Same results. West Indies is too much of a wide spread. You just cannot drop all of your senior players and expect results with an inexperience team.
Dwayne Bravo mind is set for IPL from the begining. Poor choice to force him to be where he do not want to be. We are still without a capable captain. What or how much effort was made by the board to try and bring back either Chanderpaul or Sarwan to lead the side?You need the seniors back to mold the youngsters. Hopefully Simmons will improve as a keeper. The team selection by performance for the remainder of the Pakistan and upcoming India tour should come from Gayle, Simmons, Barath, Darren Bravo, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Dwayne Bravo, Russell, Roach, Rampaul, Bishoo, Fidel Edwards, and Taylor. With Rampaul included, you have six youngster amongst the seniors. Common, WICB, it is not too late to say we made a mistake and lets move on.

IsaacM_7
on April 29, 2011, 2:37 GMT

Once again, intelligence or lack thereof, continues to plague WI cricket. You must have a team of world beaters if u continue to pick a non performing captain,that can't make the first x1. Best option, reinstate Gayle, suck up ur pride WICB, and do it, before Zimbabwe rise above us. DROP DWAYNE BRAVO- his perfromances are vying with sammy for the worst of the lot. He has become a brainless, ineffective bowler, and an equally useless batsman. Test team-Gayle,Barath, DMBravo,Sarwan,Samuels,Nash,Ramdin,Taylor,Roach, Fidel,Bishoo.
ODI- Gayle, Simmo(keeper),DMBravo,Sars,Samuels,Pollard,Russel,Badree/allrounder,Taylor,Roach,Bishoo.
2 many underated spinners in Cbean, and Badree deserves chance at least in t20.
Benn has been more than useful,also watch out Ches Hughes, Kieran powell, youngsters from CCC. From a Trinidadian.

rayinto
on April 29, 2011, 2:17 GMT

Australia refused to play a West Indies B team when the strike was on the last time. Pakistan is instead licking their lips at our current "C" team. The results should catapult them up in the rankings. For the sake of the future of West Indies cricket, Hillaire, Butts & Gibson, please revise your not working strategy and field the best team. The fans would love to see their stars back. So please swallow your ego and do the right thing.

bobagorof
on April 29, 2011, 2:06 GMT

After the first three matches there are some encouraging signs for West Indies - not as many as one would have hoped, but there are a few there. Simmons has shown ability and application that was missing from his previous incarnation at international level, and Darren Bravo is enjoying the extra responsibility. Bishoo has put in some outstanding performances, and Rampaul had a fantastic match. These are the positives so far. Uncovering/rediscovering 4 players (though Rampaul has been around for a little while) from an experiment like this is a pretty good outcome. Samuels has been a disappointment though, and Smith and Edwards haven't performed either. Replacing one or two of these (I think Edwards deserves maybe another chance) could strengthen the batting.

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on April 29, 2011, 2:05 GMT

I look at this team and I don't see a West Indies team. The selectors and their vindictiveness has made me all but numb to these continuous humiliations. The pool of players we ought to pick are Gayle, The Bravos, Simmons, Barath, Carlton Baugh (because Ramdin can't hold a bat), Samuels (for tests), Nash (for tests), Chanderpaul (for tests), Sarwan (for tests), Pollard (Limited overs), Jerome Taylor, Fidel Edwards, Roach, Rampaul, Russell, Bishoo, Benn. We have a GOOD nucleus of bowlers there. I don't know much about this Nurse so I can't comment. However, the aforementioned players blend youth, experience and MOST IMPORTANTLY SKILL to a developing West Indies team. The rest of guys playing at the moment? Get RID of them! ESPECIALLY SAMMY!!!!

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on April 29, 2011, 2:02 GMT

"Dwayne bravo batting is suffering because he has to concentrate on bowling" the most redundant quote i have read in my life.The WI have batted first in all 3 ODIs.So how can his bowling affect his batting when he bats first?We didn't learn our lesson with the Bangladesh experiment, so now we are getting a second chance to see what fool-hardy decisions CAN and WILL cost. Go on Mr.Hiliare remove the nucleus of our team and give us another dumb-wit explanation as to why our best and brightest is not representing us on the field .Every test playing nation has a blend of youth and experience 2 take care of the NOW and prepare for the FUTURE.But not the WI.Cause we are
' putting together a team to win the 2015 WC'.How pathetic?Its amazing how the failure of Sammy echoes with calls for his removal.While Dwayne's failure is justified with excuses:Oh he is bowling to much.OR he should be the only all-rounder in the team.How about him doin what he was selected to do.MAKE RUNS TAKE WICKETS.WI!

nafzak
on April 29, 2011, 1:48 GMT

Disagree with the comment that Bishoo benefited from poor umpiring and hot-headed strokes. First of all, Misbah was clearly out LBW to Bishoo before Bishoo got the other LBW in his favour. Had teh LBW ben given against Misbah, who knows what would have happened. Secondly, did the West Indians not also play hot-headed shots and got out? Did the Pakistanis not do the same for 2 of the wickets that Rampaul got. I think that in the end, it all washes out. Bishoo is the real find of this series for the West Indies. Rampaul is playing well. Too bad that Sammy is in the team and Gibson is coach... there's your 2 weakest link.

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on April 29, 2011, 1:46 GMT

@bigrishi: The match was played for 45 overs per innings. Therefore, the maximum number of overs per bowler was 9. So, roach, rampaul and bishoo all had finished their allocations around 36th over. i assumes, they ran out options due to poorly executed plan by the west indian captain. He was unable to distribute rampaul overs for both new and old ball.

exuma
on April 29, 2011, 1:45 GMT

WI cant build a team with all inexperience playera. the expeience of Misba is guiding the pak younger players, the same role Shiv should be playing in WI team. So what happned about grooming a new keeper?-baugh now droped, is simmonds supposed to be keeping now, and when his batting fail he will be dropped. The batting of simmonds is one of the few positives with the WI team so far. As far as dropping sammy that will not happen, he is the capt and will remain capt as dictated by WICB. we just have to find 10 players to prop him up. the problen is you need 10 good players that does not include-shiv, gayle, sars, ramdin, feidel, jerome taylor- where are you going to find them from. IS WI reely going to go to Guyana and not play shiv and sars?. EXUMA

Reinagain
on April 29, 2011, 1:44 GMT

Players like Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Barath & Gayle need to be an integral part of this team, now that the west indies have found a genuine spinner, we should build a varied attack around him and also get rid of any players who do not deserve to be on the team.

right now west indies is heading to tier 2 of the wicb are not stopped

Randy_Wilson
on April 29, 2011, 1:35 GMT

Time is up for Sammy. we can see he Lost Faith in himself as a Bowler and with him coming down the order to bat Makes mean he have no faith in himself at all. I like Samy Attitude torwards the game, Unfortunately Sammy should Give up Captain for the Test, while Vice Captain of the Test team Nash would take over from him. Sammy shouldn't play the Test Match. i would Also Add Sarwan and Chanderpaul in my Test side and if Edwards is 100% fit i would add hi mto the team, i wouldnt take J Taylor, he wants to play IPL let him go there, he was suppose to be on the injure list for WI. My Test Squad
A Barath, L Simmons, Darren Bravo, S Chanderpaul, R Sarwan, B Nash, D Ramdin (i would pick him for Only Test match), Bishoo, F Edwards, K Roach, A Russel/R Rampal.
With some player like A Nurse,S Benn, K Edwards ( I still think he would be better in Test than ODI) , K Brathwaite (would like to see this youngster in International lvl) We want to rebuild, we need to Mix the team up.

VivGilchrist
on April 29, 2011, 1:27 GMT

@bigrishi, it was a 45ov game, therefore 9ov was max not 10.

bdbj
on April 29, 2011, 1:25 GMT

Its a big mistake by WICB to appoint Sammy captain who can't bowl and bat! They should drop him and bring back Sarwan, Chanderpal...

WI-NZ-SA-ENG
on April 29, 2011, 1:22 GMT

Alright after being ticked off at this poor performance a strict action is needed, Devon Smith, Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards, Dwayne Bravo, Darren Sammy and Andre Russel have to go. They could replace them with a much stronger unit in terms of batting and bowling, and have young and seniors playing at the same time. My XI most likely possible in the India series would be: 1. Chris Gayle 2. Adrian Barath 3. Lendl Simmons 4. Darren Bravo 5. Ramnaresh Sarwan 6. Keiron Pollard 7. Kemar Roach 8. Suleiman Benn 9.Jerome Taylor 10. Ravi Rampaul 11. Devendra Bishoo. There a solid batting and bowling team the good starts won't be wasted and it would be a severely strong bowling attack, with great variety. They could easily beat the # 1 ranked team with this team. However the selectors need to go if this is to happen.

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on April 29, 2011, 1:21 GMT

Who even watches the poor WI these days !!!

ranpath
on April 29, 2011, 1:19 GMT

Gayle dropped, Chanderpaul dropped...and both upset and lashing out. While this is happening you have a captain who has done very little ( with either bat or ball ) since becoming captain and so there no justification for him to keep his place !!!! Especially so when from watching the play there is also very little indication that he has a great captain's brain !! Add to this a senior bowler, Bravo, whose performances seem to be declining more and more as he continues to play. maybe Wi should follow the Bangladesh route and just start afresh with a batch of new and young players !!!!!

No Sammy in either side, assuming that ALL players are available to play. Smith is no good.

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on April 29, 2011, 0:56 GMT

@bigirishi dear for your kind imformation the their overs were finished bcz they match was reduced for fourty five overs due to early rain lolz

Silloh
on April 29, 2011, 0:56 GMT

At least the guys put up a bit of fight but poor batting worse than school boys after Simmons and young Bravo departed, cost us. Why not rest Samuels and Edwards and replace with Chanders and Sarwan. Is Roach injured ?

Zahidsaltin
on April 29, 2011, 0:41 GMT

AFRIDI, one day you will have to give up slogging. your batting is gone. You have giving away your wicket to an unsuccesfull slog each and every time when team needed you. I have checked and can tell you that out of last 34 innings you have lost 26 wickets to unsuccesfull slogs. Your timing for sixes is gone long long time ago. You only hit a six 1 out of 6 attempts and 5 out of 6 times you will lose wicket. LEARN TO PLAY FOR TEAM. Dont slogg at least when team needs you. Play like a captain. plz give up this slog game which is not cricket at all. you are much better than that.

TheLight
on April 29, 2011, 0:36 GMT

Windies selectors must go now!!!!!!

jk2s
on April 29, 2011, 0:29 GMT

Re:bigrishi
This was a 45 over match and hence 9 overs was the maximum a bowler could bowl so Bishoo, Rampaul and Roach were all done with their quota.

bigrishi
on April 28, 2011, 23:51 GMT

there is no way you can defend a match with 15 runs to come in about 10 overs. seven wickets down bowl your best bowlers take 3 wickets win the match, give yourself a chance, rampaul on fire, one over in reserve, roach, probably our quickest, one over left, bishoo best bowler for west indies in the tournament, one over left. sammy and bravo bowling when the match ends.....what is the thinking behind saving the best bowlers, obviously the match is not going to 50 0vers...try to take the three wickets man, or have we just forgotten about even trying to win

VivGilchrist
on April 28, 2011, 23:13 GMT

Notice the experience of Misbah guiding Pak home? A blend of youth and experience is what is needed not dropping 3 of your most experienced. So 3-0 down with 2 games to go and a Test match to prepare for. I would say to give the guys most likely to play in the 1st Test a run in the last 2 games. That means bringing in Barath, Sarwan, Nash, Chanderpaul, Ramdin, and Fidel. You decide who gets dropped.

henrys
on April 28, 2011, 23:08 GMT

The team lacks balance. I agree Dwayne Bravo is a batting allrounder. He has to bowl a full quota because the next allrounder, Sammy is incapable of performing at par and thus Bravo's batting suffers. The selectors hope that the team can carry Sammy, but he is clearly out of his depth as a captain and an allrounder He should drop himself for for the next 2 one days and pick an an additional batsman. We have now used Simmons as a keeper. His batting will suffer. Ramdhin is still the best wicketkeeper/batsman we have. Why isn't he not being picked. Is there something else we don't know about?

robmaha
on April 28, 2011, 22:55 GMT

Many have been saying that the WI team with the expereienced players they have dropped has not been a winning combination and there is need to have this new look team. Well after three matches in this series, it appears that this new look combination is a WORSE ALTERNATIVE. But the management has cleared themselves or so they think by qualifying that it will take years for this team to change to produce better results, probably by 2015. This is like asking for blind faith. Backing Ireland or Bangladesh might be a better alternative for cricket loving people instead of waiting in faith. We have already waited for more than 15 years.

Anneeq
on April 28, 2011, 22:45 GMT

even tho the windies batting generally been hopeless this series, this experimentation has defo been worthwhile. Ok the batting was bad but i really think players like Samuels and Dwayne Bravo will fire again soon, they've shown that they are decent players. They'l have a decent batting lineup with Gayle, Samuels, Simmons and both bravo brothers. These lot should be the skeleton of the batting lineup. What's happened with Jerome Thomas, Suleiman Ben and Fidel Edwards? Bishoo, Nurse, Darren Bravo and Simmons are real good finds, they should be part of the windies long term plans for definite!

cgtboy87
on April 28, 2011, 22:03 GMT

butts,gibson and hillaire neeeds to go.....simple

bigrishi
on April 28, 2011, 21:20 GMT

the tiger roars!!!... it is disappointing to see west indies scores for the past three matches, they have not given the bowlers anything to defend, and are unable to convince me that they are capable of winning matches based on their batting strength. the bowling department seems to be improving a bit. am glad that benn is out, he never looked like an athlete, i saw him make his debut and looked quite clumsy...roach is good, and now rampaul seems to be becoming a bit more consistent. we can add taylor to the mix and along with bishoo we will have a good bowling attack. i think dwayne bravo's batting is sufferring because of the bowling responsibility he has been given...initially he was a batting alrounder, and was a shock bowler, WI need to get a proper attack, and not this bits and pieces wreck which we have now. much the same can be said about our batting. there is no place for three bowling alrounders in any side, but then again we just have to have faith in the wisdom of selectors

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on April 28, 2011, 20:53 GMT

Why is Darren Sammy playing. he obviously no longer considers himself to be a bowler and he certainly cant bat.

westindian4life
on April 28, 2011, 20:09 GMT

Devon Smith, Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards and Darren Sammy need to go...Dwayne Bravo should not be too far from the axe unless he does something special in the Pakistani innings with the ball or in the next game...Kraigg Brathwaite could not possibly be worse than Devon Smith...as for the rest of the positions there isn't a shortage of potential replacements...Adrian Bharath, Brendan Nash, Darren Ganga, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shiv Chanderpaul, Danza Hyatt, Sherwin Ganga...come on the cupboard isn't exacty bare....

westindian4life
on April 28, 2011, 19:35 GMT

Smith, Samuels, Edwards, Dwayne Bravo have to go...

ycric22
on April 28, 2011, 19:34 GMT

Windies needs to select the best team. Why hasn't Rampaul played more games?
Sammy hasn't really justified his place in the team, he's just there because he's the captain.

You go get them Tiger! Hllaire does not know what he is talking .WICB and their selectors are all square pegs in round hole and they all must go.

rayinto
on April 28, 2011, 16:42 GMT

Chanderpaul batting stronger than ever, and just hit Hillaire for 6 sixes ( see the six points in the article): http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/512932.html
Shiv , we all know you better. Hillaire has overstepped his boundaries by defaming our most recognizable hero aside from Lara. Hillaire must go! He can take Sammy, Gibson & Butts with him at the same time! We dont need these bullies.

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on April 28, 2011, 16:33 GMT

Look at how Lendl Simmons has been performing against Pakistan. Why wasn't he selected for the recently concluded World Cup? See who the problem is -WICB and thier selectors

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on April 28, 2011, 16:33 GMT

Look at how Lendl Simmons has been performing against Pakistan. Why wasn't he selected for the recently concluded World Cup? See who the problem is -WICB and thier selectors

rayinto
on April 28, 2011, 16:42 GMT

Chanderpaul batting stronger than ever, and just hit Hillaire for 6 sixes ( see the six points in the article): http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/512932.html
Shiv , we all know you better. Hillaire has overstepped his boundaries by defaming our most recognizable hero aside from Lara. Hillaire must go! He can take Sammy, Gibson & Butts with him at the same time! We dont need these bullies.

roopans64
on April 28, 2011, 19:12 GMT

You go get them Tiger! Hllaire does not know what he is talking .WICB and their selectors are all square pegs in round hole and they all must go.

Windies needs to select the best team. Why hasn't Rampaul played more games?
Sammy hasn't really justified his place in the team, he's just there because he's the captain.

westindian4life
on April 28, 2011, 19:35 GMT

Smith, Samuels, Edwards, Dwayne Bravo have to go...

westindian4life
on April 28, 2011, 20:09 GMT

Devon Smith, Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards and Darren Sammy need to go...Dwayne Bravo should not be too far from the axe unless he does something special in the Pakistani innings with the ball or in the next game...Kraigg Brathwaite could not possibly be worse than Devon Smith...as for the rest of the positions there isn't a shortage of potential replacements...Adrian Bharath, Brendan Nash, Darren Ganga, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shiv Chanderpaul, Danza Hyatt, Sherwin Ganga...come on the cupboard isn't exacty bare....

dummy4fb
on April 28, 2011, 20:53 GMT

Why is Darren Sammy playing. he obviously no longer considers himself to be a bowler and he certainly cant bat.

bigrishi
on April 28, 2011, 21:20 GMT

the tiger roars!!!... it is disappointing to see west indies scores for the past three matches, they have not given the bowlers anything to defend, and are unable to convince me that they are capable of winning matches based on their batting strength. the bowling department seems to be improving a bit. am glad that benn is out, he never looked like an athlete, i saw him make his debut and looked quite clumsy...roach is good, and now rampaul seems to be becoming a bit more consistent. we can add taylor to the mix and along with bishoo we will have a good bowling attack. i think dwayne bravo's batting is sufferring because of the bowling responsibility he has been given...initially he was a batting alrounder, and was a shock bowler, WI need to get a proper attack, and not this bits and pieces wreck which we have now. much the same can be said about our batting. there is no place for three bowling alrounders in any side, but then again we just have to have faith in the wisdom of selectors