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I never understood the concept of automatically adding a tip to large parties.

If i show up with a group of 8 friends....i'm bringing a large amount of business to the restaurant. How are the 4 couples sitting on the other side of me any different? yet they don't get charged an automatic tip

Isn't it harder to handle 4 separate couples then one group of people?

I never understood the concept of automatically adding a tip to large parties.

If i show up with a group of 8 friends....i'm bringing a large amount of business to the restaurant. How are the 4 couples sitting on the other side of me any different? yet they don't get charged an automatic tip

Isn't it harder to handle 4 separate couples then one group of people?

To ensure the waiter doesn't get burned. A large party usually takes 30% more time to leave, which costs the waiter (and the restaurant) money. Often times, the waiter might only have that one party (if it is large enough) so that table is a make it or break it for them. A little tip for you guys, if you are ever in a major city, drop a hint that you are in the industry (ie waiter, bartender, etc) somewhere along in casual conversation....see how fast that automatic tip disappears from your bill.

People who don't tip and have a ridiculous excuse are just scumbags. Do you realize that in Texas, at least, the average wage for a server in my day of waiting tables (2000-2002) was $2.15 an hour? You have to rely on people's tips in order to make a living. Tipped employees don't fall under the normal "minimum wage" category.

no one is forcing anyone to become a restaurant server. if you are not content with the pay, then find some other line of work. patrons should not be required or expected to tip a certain percentage. a tip, by definition, is a gratuity so the amount given, if any, should be up to the individual.

no one is forcing anyone to become a restaurant server. if you are not content with the pay, then find some other line of work. patrons should not be required or expected to tip a certain percentage. a tip, by definition, is a gratuity so the amount given, if any, should be up to the individual.

I agree and disagree. I find that people serve table because they want easy money and then cry when they have a bad night. Much easier to educate yourself and pursue something with less drugs and degenerate co-workers.

That said, the way servers are paid is built into the institution of eating out. You can argue that you don't have to tip, but if Servers were paid a real wage per hour, the price of food would go up dramatically.

In the end, don't go out and eat if you can't afford to tip. I cut the most out of my personal budget by cooking about 90 percent of the time.

Tips are bullshit, the employer should pay the waitresses a normal wage and tips should only be given for EXCEPTIONAL service.

You realize this would further increase the price of your meal, right?

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000nyc

To ensure the waiter doesn't get burned. A large party usually takes 30% more time to leave, which costs the waiter (and the restaurant) money. Often times, the waiter might only have that one party (if it is large enough) so that table is a make it or break it for them. A little tip for you guys, if you are ever in a major city, drop a hint that you are in the industry (ie waiter, bartender, etc) somewhere along in casual conversation....see how fast that automatic tip disappears from your bill.

what's that? oh you're thanking me for properly designing this flight component that won't break sending you and your family to their deaths in a flaming crash into the sea. you're welcome and thanks for the gift card to applebees

I had a bill at Cheesecake factory once where there was 6 of us and they added 18% automatically. Except after waiting an hour for our food after ordering and having to walk around trying to find a (rude) waiter, it was justified to have it removed.

I was once in a party of 10, the sevice was on that level or worse. The food was cold and terrible whe it finally did come out. Most of us didn't even eat it or just barely. I asked to speak to the manger, the whole bill was "waived".

what's that? oh you're thanking me for properly designing this flight component that won't break sending you and your family to their deaths in a flaming crash into the sea. you're welcome and thanks for the gift card to applebees

You have a wage outside of the tip. Tips are built into restaurant workers salaries.

And since your industry doesn't work that way, I don't need to tip you because it's your job.

what's that? oh you're thanking me for properly designing this flight component that won't break sending you and your family to their deaths in a flaming crash into the sea. you're welcome and thanks for the gift card to applebees

I imagine you make a tweak or two more than $3/hr.

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Originally Posted by Willie00328I

That's Satan's biggest lie, he wants you to believe there is no God

Willie

That would be an interesting dilemma. Disbelieving the overarching Judeo-Christian myth because a lesser-but-still-fundamental Judeo-Christian myth tells you its not true, even though the first one being untrue precludes the existence of the source of info.

ITT: People that buy 10 year old BMW's that believe they shouldn't tip because the server should get a better job. Well maybe you should cook for yourself instead of being lazy and expected to be waited on for free.

ITT: People that buy 10 year old BMW's that believe they shouldn't tip because the server should get a better job. Well maybe you should cook for yourself instead of being lazy and expected to be waited on for free.

Unless you're not from America... I don't get how people still don't understand the basic principles of tipping your server.

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