As a side note, Gustavo was always pretty cool in my opinion. Very straight forward and easy to work with, always polite. From my dealings with he always seemed like a pretty decent guy.

"he always seemed like a pretty decent guy."....He is, people that don't know him think he's a prick, but he's far from it.

Title: Re: what is the real cause of GH GUT?
Post by: gh15 on September 23, 2011, 12:37:29 AM

the reason for big gut is abuse of insulina,, that is the only reason for big gut!,, ofcourse hgh will have to be there for this gut to be a gut and not a soft belly....you get the idea correct? hgh = fat loss no fat you get harder and with trenbolona forget about it super hard,, insulina = blow it up on scale...guess where the weight goes to when everything else is maxed? you got that right to the belly which now is not soft anymore because hgh going strong in the blood and trenbolona going strong in the blood...sooooo it is A GUT! big one...the higher the dose...the bigger the gut!

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Title: Re: what is the real cause of GH GUT?
Post by: goomba420 on September 23, 2011, 08:39:47 AM

the reason for big gut is abuse of insulina,, that is the only reason for big gut!,, ofcourse hgh will have to be there for this gut to be a gut and not a soft belly....you get the idea correct? hgh = fat loss no fat you get harder and with trenbolona forget about it super hard,, insulina = blow it up on scale...guess where the weight goes to when everything else is maxed? you got that right to the belly which now is not soft anymore because hgh going strong in the blood and trenbolona going strong in the blood...sooooo it is A GUT! big one...the higher the dose...the bigger the gut!

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why doesn't phil have a gut? 8)

Title: Re: what is the real cause of GH GUT?
Post by: LittleJ on September 23, 2011, 12:49:04 PM

the reason for big gut is abuse of insulina,, that is the only reason for big gut!,, ofcourse hgh will have to be there for this gut to be a gut and not a soft belly....you get the idea correct? hgh = fat loss no fat you get harder and with trenbolona forget about it super hard,, insulina = blow it up on scale...guess where the weight goes to when everything else is maxed? you got that right to the belly which now is not soft anymore because hgh going strong in the blood and trenbolona going strong in the blood...sooooo it is A GUT! big one...the higher the dose...the bigger the gut!

hgh = fat loss while same time increasing muscle fibers,, prime your body for growth trenbolona = INCREASE of lean muscle consistantly and gradually while same time hardening drieing and full look effect take place ,, all same time bodyfat go down lean muscle go up ,, not only what you have on you ....but the lean muscle increases slowly ad safly insulina = shuttle of sugar and with it fat...into the muscle,,everything that go in blood everything that go between skin and muscle now go INTO muscle ,, the belly is HUGE muscle,, thats where everything loves blowing up ,, so if its not between skin and muscle in the belly ...if it all go into the muscle in the belly what do you get? you get turtle like gut! and this gut will grow the more insulina you will use,, the hgh will get it lean looking and grow everything aroudn it lean but the good old gut will grow and grow and grow into palubolizm,,

nothing to do with hgh ,, alot to do with insulina,, and ofcourse with insulina and hgh at high doses come lots of calories....insulina + the calories for prolong time = bigger and bigger gut

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Title: Re: what is the real cause of GH GUT?
Post by: gh15 on September 23, 2011, 06:44:12 PM

Gh abuse over time can cause organ growth so yes the intestines can grow larger which is permanent

what create the gut it the insulina abuse ,,the hgh is ther yes ...but it is ONLY when insulina go higher and higher when the belly become the infamous gut you all seeofcourse if you eat 800calories a day like a bird you wont have nothing...no muscle and no gut,, no matter what you take ,, but no bodybuild eat 800 calories a day gh15 approved

Title: Re: what is the real cause of GH GUT?
Post by: unrageable on September 24, 2011, 11:54:24 AM

It depends on the person...my cousin who was a bodybuilder had a tumor the size of a golf ball in his neck which caused him to quit..he was using 8ius a day for a couple years...I also had some nasty side effects including gh gut which you can barely notice but it still bothers me...I used genotropin at 5ius a day for over a year and a half...and then used it again for 4 months over the summer...I will not use it again...many people will get away being side effect free but it depends on the person..as long as your monitored by doctors and not some dumb ass who has no idea what's goin on in his body then go for it...