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Which battery are you getting?

Which battery are you getting?

Submitted by gagliardilou on December 31, 2011

Now that pricing is out which battery are you getting? Look at above post and add a number to it if it exist or put a 1.

300 - 1

Leofingal |
December 31, 2011

300 - 1
230 - 0
160 - 1

Unless I get a bit more scrounged together, and I move to the 230. biggest reason I consider this is the performance (0-60) impact, though realistically that isn't too important. I plan to upgrade the battery down the line maybe 8-10 years.

breading |
December 31, 2011

300 - 1
230 - 0
160 - 2

Though I too might stretch for the 230 battery if there are differences between the 160 and 230 models other than just battery size and access to superchargers.

discoducky |
December 31, 2011

300 - 1
230 - 1
160 - 2

230 due to better warranty, will get 300 if TSLA stock goes up to $44 by June.

Jason S |
December 31, 2011

300 - 2
230 - 1
160 - 2

300 pretty much no matter what. A form of EV range anxiety, I think.

BruceR |
December 31, 2011

300 - 2
230 - 2
160 - 2

230 meets my needs. Faster than my MINI Cooper S JCW, easily meets my daily commute range of 40 miles. Meets my long range trip needs for a once a month trip of 145 miles. Based on proven battery technology. TESLA has not released any details, but I beleive the 85kWh pack is a brand new technology. Most of the model S is great use of existing technology and is not based on anything bleeding edge except for that new battery....

Mycroft |
December 31, 2011

Sig - 1
300 - 2
230 - 2
160 - 2

brianman |
December 31, 2011

@lgagliardi
The other forum is much better for these kind of polls (direct support). FYI

Mycroft |
December 31, 2011

Very true. TeslaMotorsClub.com

Robert.Boston |
December 31, 2011

300 for me:

Sig - 1
300 - 2
230 - 2
160 - 2

Robert.Boston |
December 31, 2011

Would help if I actually updated the tally:

Sig - 1
300 - 3
230 - 2
160 - 2

Schlermie |
December 31, 2011

If it were simply about the battery, I'd be happy with the 230, since that will get me anywhere I need to go in the SF Bay area, but since I'm leaning toward the performance package (today), I'm going to have to go with the 300.

Sig - 1
300 - 4
230 - 2
160 - 2

mlascano |
December 31, 2011

Sig - 1
300 - 5
230 - 2
160 - 2

I'm Sig 729 but even if I downgrade to P I'll go with the 300.

stephen.kamichik |
December 31, 2011

Torn between 160 and 230 packs.

Mycroft |
December 31, 2011

Stretch for the 230. You won't regret it. It'll help significantly with resale value.

For me 300, as stated previously the larger the capacity, the easier to keep the battery charge in optimal range thus significantly affecting longevity.

Sig -3
300-7
230-3
160-3

P 2576

CPM |
January 1, 2012

Going for the middle size. I drive a total of 10 miles per day but want the feeling of the middle. Kinda of like a 5 series, in the middle. I know the car size is the same but for some reason that is how the mind works for me. Andrew18 gave a heads up on the 4k Illinois tax credit which might have just added a couple options to my list.

I'm 300 for sure, though it is more than I need. I think a good choice in the long run.

Sig-3
300-8
230-4
160-3

mklcolvin |
January 1, 2012

I originally figured for the 160, but with the extra issues (supercharger, warranty) that have popped up with the pricing announcement, I'm trying to figure a way that I can come up with the funds to go with the 230. I'm torn about this - I'd talked with my wife about the 160, but now it looks like we'll have to talk about more. Oh well, my daughter didn't REALLY need to finish college anyway!!!

phb |
January 1, 2012

Sig-4
300-8
230-4
160-3

pbrulott |
January 1, 2012

Sig-4
300-8
230-4
160-4*

TonyF |
January 1, 2012

I decided on a 230 battery a while ago after drawing circles of varying diameters on a map and seeing how far each battery would get me (one way). I picked the smallest one which could get me from my home in Phila suburbs to some places I frequent: NYC, Jersey Shore, Baltimore, and Harrisburg.

I'm going for the 160 pack. Why commit to $10K or $20K extra for the battery now today when the technology is going to be so much better and cheaper in the future?

I'm betting that in five years, $20K will buy you a brand new 400 miles range pack.

The Tesla rep on Friday mentioned to me that on average, battery tech improvements are expected to extend range by 8% a year. You can do the math.

David den Boer |
January 1, 2012

300, and seriously considering upgrading to Sig this week.

phb |
January 1, 2012

Better do it soon David den Boer! I don't imagine that there are very many Sig reservations left.

Maestrokneer |
January 2, 2012

Sig-4
300-9
230-6
160-5

I'm getting the Goldilocks model.

(I also added 1 to the 300 model for David Den Boer who forgot to update the list)

mdennick |
January 2, 2012

I too feel the tech will improve significantly. Perhaps in ~5 years we'll have farther and cheaper battery options. We'll see how I feel when it comes time to order but for the moment I'm thinking middle with 230.

Sig-4
300-9
230-7
160-5

harryjsommer |
January 2, 2012

Sig-4
300-9
230-8
160-5

Going for 230. I live in south Florida, and during the summer , we lose electric power from time to time. Although 160 miles is plenty for my daily commute, it wouldn't be enough for 2...

Brian H |
January 2, 2012

Eric;
Yeah, compounded that would boost the 300 to 440. I actually expect a "step function" major jump by then though, to 2 or 3X current capacity, at least. That's how I read the research; there are 3 or 4 separate approaches that should require minimal factory process alterations that could achieve that within 5 yrs.

stephen.kamichik |
January 2, 2012

According to a press release by Panasonic (dated Dec.25, 2009) they have already developed more powerful 18650 batteries. The then current capacity was 2.9 Ah. A 3.4 Ah battery would be produced in 2011-2012. A 4.0 Ah battery will be produced in 2012-2013.

Brian H |
January 2, 2012

stephen;
Yes, and (4-3.4)/3.4 x 100% = 17% upgrade in one year, more than double the projected 8%.

At 17%/yr compounded, in 5 yrs a 300kwh batter would be over 650!

Brian H |
January 2, 2012

A batter or a battery.
;p

Brian H |
January 2, 2012

P.S.;
the 2.9 to 3.4 jump was also 17%. I detect a pattern ...

Teoatawki |
January 2, 2012

I predict battery packs will get smaller and lighter before we see 650 mile packs, if ever. The mass produced 30k car may max out at 350mi range (not base price!) with a pack that's 20-25% lighter and smaller than the model S 300mi pack. Even lighter if it's later than I expect before it hits the streets.

brianman |
January 2, 2012

@Teo
An interesting thing might come out of that. If they position Bluestar to be a lighter and smaller battery for the same ranges, then a replacement battery for the Model S (and probably Model X) looks really interesting.

- The 300 uses the most advanced chemistry battery, and I like state of the art

- I want to be able to accelerate my adoption of EV for all uses, including longer range jaunts

- I accept that I will likely take a 20K hit over the next 3 years, but I like to live the future early :)

gagliardilou |
January 2, 2012

I've seen this discussed but her's my thought process. Tesla says a 30% reduction in range in 7 years but also that the battery should last 10 years. My question is:

Will all the battery packs be useless at approximately the same time OR if you get the 300 mile pack, will the battery lasy maybe 15 years with continued less mileage? AND if the 300 does last longer but just keeps degradating, does the degradation excel faster in the later years? What would be the miles after say 13 years???????

If they all "died" around the same time, it would make more sense financially to get the battery that suits your driving needs.

If the 300 lasted 5 years longer than the other packs than that seems the best financially.

Even with all that said, I STILL WANT THE 300 PACK!!!!!

David M. |
January 2, 2012

Sig-4
300-11
230-8
160-5

mikeadams |
January 2, 2012

Sig-4
300-11
230-8
160-6

mcornwell |
January 2, 2012

Sig-4
300-12
230-8
160-6

300, only because I want the performance model. These #'s give me a good idea about how long it will take for my build # (P2747) to get called. I'm guessing I'll be about car #2500 (1000 Sigs + about 1500 85kWh cars ahead of me), which should get me the car 3-4 months or so into production.

Larry Chanin |
January 2, 2012

Although it probably won't change your deliver time much, you should probably add another 200 Canadian Signatures ahead of you.