Rather a silly thing to vote on. The result will not affect the outcome, nor will it have any effect on policy._________________To become an extremist, hang around with people you agree with. Cass Sunstein

Before, during or after 2023 still seems a pointless data gathering exercise. Have a discussion by all means, but a poll?_________________To become an extremist, hang around with people you agree with. Cass Sunstein

If we carry on the present trajectory then (all) energy will creep up to 30% of mean take home pay in the not too distant future.

When this happens, energy will become the hot topic all politicians will need to win. Question time last night got quite interesting on the energy prices subject, although most of the politicians and opinion formers were still thinking it was a no competition in supply issue. Maybe they do know but are frightened of the answers they will have to give.

We will see further rationing by price, this morning we are getting advice on selecting the rooms we should heat. We will also see a massive increase in DIY energy brewing.

However, this still will not be enough to mitigate the cost of energy, so to answer Biff's poll.

It depends!

If Hinkley is left in private hands there is a strong probability it will not get built, especially if the cost is rising in 2bn increments.

If energy takes the political spotlight for the next 12 months then it(electricity) will probably be nationalised and Hinkley will be built, along with quite a few more. The reason being that nuclear will be worth investing in for the strategic value alone. We will be building/ making more of the stuff the world needs and accepting resources in return. As we know on this forum the UK is not the only country to be facing this challenge.

Don't you just love the Toryraphs dispatches from the War Department!
Some of the comments are in a class of their own worrying extreme right wing looniness which even leaves some PS contributors in the shade.

National Grid's nice Mr Holliday comes in for a bit of a bashing whining about not enough youngsters opting for engineering careers with his splendidly well managed, happy ship organisation.

" Mr Holiday expresses concern about the lack of interest in STEM subjects in schools and also the general malaise in Engineering recruitment.

May i suggest he looks a bit closer to home to his own company in particular his Gas Distribution business where they have recently cut gross take home pay of their own front line response engineers by around 10 to 15% pa and threatened them with TUPE if they did not accept it under a barrage of lies and misinformation from management.

These are front line engineers who work alone,operate 24/7/365,work long shifts and callout and are run ragged and then sometimes bullied and harrassed by managers if they so much as make a slight mistake.

If this is how they value engineers in a company of this scale,what hope is there for smaller concerns? Who would be an engineer ? times have not changed. They are still seen as blue collar,thick,lazy and untrustworthy.

Far better to look elsewhere for a more rewarding career with real prospects.

His very own loyal and hard working staff are leaving because they have had enough of the excessive demands made of them,the damage to their health and family life, the pay and conditions cuts,the continually failing IT systems and inept coasting managers.