To my knowledge, all I have to get is CUL and I'm maxed out ES qual wise until I turn 18. And the way I have myself set up, when I turn 18 I'll be an automatic GTL and GBD, since that would be the last requirement that I need to get those quals, pretty much.

GESSETUDFTGTM 3-1GTLGBDMROFLMFLSMS*FASC*IO*CUL*MSO*LOI listed the Trainee ones in MIMS because I will actually work on them at some point in time. I figure learning how to do all of the jobs and getting qualified in them (not necessarily maintaining currency, however) will help me in my ES professional development in the long run.

The trainee ratings that don't show up in MIMS that I'm actually working on are:MO (gotta redo all the F&P tasks now that they changed the signoffs).OSC (should show up but it doesn't recognize the "GBD with MS" as completing the pre-requisites. It still wants to see AOBD)MSA (a joke, but I actually need 1 F&P signoff)

Been on 4 actual missions, all as aircrew. Got lucky, was the backseat guy on our new glass cockpit C182's first mission, 3 days post delivery. It was an ELT search, but we did a shakedown of the SDIS toys too.

I'd like to learn the ground team stuff, but in a squadron with planes and roughly 30 pilots, GT stuff isn't seen often. Have to travel for that!

In my AO though the wing ES officer or his designate needs to validate any qualifications IAW the wing policy and issue a physical CAPF 101... MIMS is not considered sufficient here... Gotta get any qualifications signed off by a qualified evaluator approved by wing... Then request a CAPF 101 from wing and also get on the WMU and MMU... At least I think thats how it works here.

I'm not in the wing system currently, but I could be in the near future as I'm working on a re-qualification for UDF, although I was thinking of gaming the system a bit and hang out as a supervised trainee and not bother with a full qualification. ;D

************I've been on one mission. We were trying to track a moving signal through Southwest Arkansas until it moved into Texas, Texas Wing had a GT on stand by and tried to intercept it once it crossed the state border but they couldn't locate it either. My guess is that is that someone hit a bump and set off an EPIRB in their boat while pulling it down the interstate.

It's a start. Keep in mind that GES is the basis for all other qualifications. If you lose GES (usually due to failure to take the online update tests), you lose EVERYTHING. I know of several members who put off taking the new GES test after the last revision of the ES regs and came to a SAREX only to find out they weren't qualified for ANYTHING ( the MP's were really p.o.'d ;D).

When the online update tests come out, your unit ES officer or Commander should tell you about them. BUt, the folks here will most likely post about the difficulty level of the tests (generally not very :)).

You know whats weird is that I took and passed part I of the exam when they updated the CAPT 116, but my CAPF 101 on MIMS still shows my earlier completion date from sometime back in '02... Never lost any of my quals.

You did update, so your GES remained current. You didn't recertify which should change the date. However, since I do not know the inner working of MIMS - nor would I want to - I can't say if that is normal or correct. But, since your 101 card says it's current, then it's current.

Back to the topic:GESMSAMROMSO*CUL (need one more mission to lose the asterisk)*LO

Each wing has a number of SAREX (Search and Rescue Exercise) that all members in the wing can participate in - regardless of their unit's activity level in ES. Your unit ES officer or Commander should have the information. If they don't, or refuse to give it out, contact your group or wing ES officer for the information.

Ok, how do you start participating in missions if your squadron doesn't? What is the first thing you need to do?

It'll be tough, to be sure, but also an extremely worthwhile and rewarding journey--especially if you manage to entice the rest of your unit into participating in this particular mission.

First thing's first--you need a 101 card. If you haven't already, study CAPR 60-3 and take the basic ES test online.

We use WMU here in Wisconsin to keep track of all ES ratings. It may take a few days, but once you pass the test, that information will migrate into the WMU system. Your squadron commander will still need to approve that within the WMU system, though. Once that's done, you'll be able to print out your 101 card and participate in missions as a trainee. (A wonderful tutorial was handed out at the last Commander's Call if you or members in your unit are having difficulty with WMU.)

From there, you need to decide what "route" you want to go--mission base staff, ground team or aircrew.

All three have a number of different specialties that you can qualify in. The mission base staff track may well be the easiest to get into when coming from a unit without an established ES training program. There's two "entry" positions--Mission Radio Operator (MRO) and Mission Staff Assistant (MSA). For MRO, you will also need your Radio Operator Authorization (ROA), which requires completion of Basic Communications User Training (if you don't have someone in your unit that can provide that training, you'll need to coordinate with another unit or the Wing Comm Officer to set up that training for your unit).

On the other hand, there are no prerequisites for MSA (other than possessing the 101 card). You'll ultimately need to complete Incident Command System level 200 training, but that's something you can in the confort of your own home.

If you want to get started, there's a Wing training mission that will be happening 12-14 August up in Shawano. Contact Capt. Jeff Thompson (member of the Shawano unit and our wing Deputy Director of Operations) and tell him you're interested in training on the staff.

Alternately, if you want to get into the Ground Team or Aircrew tracks, that'll require a bit more effort. Watch the wing calendar--we'll be offering basic Ground Team and/or a Mission Aircrew course sometime in the future. Attend those and you'll have a good headstart. If you don't want to wait, your best chance is to work with another unit that does have an established ground team or aircrew.

(Whatever you do, *don't* just show up at a mission and assume that someone will train you. The ground teams and aircrews that show up are likely going to be "full" and in any event will generally have certain tasks or specific bits of training that their members need to accomplish.

On the other hand *do* coordinate with other units, if you want to get ground team or aircrew training, or the mission staff if you want MSA training. Let them know you're new to the program and want to get started.)

Before you get started, though, you will want to take a look at the training materials on the national website:

There are Task Guides for Mission Base Staff, for Aircrew, and for Ground Team. The Specialty Qualification Training Records (SQTRs) at the back of each book indicate what training you need to accomplish for each specialty.

Well... I'm 1 training sortie away from checking off FLM and UDF. The one thing that's holding me back is mission number (I need two for FLM and one for UDF) and first aid. We're working on the medical stuff with 174th FW. Cadet Reed is about to be certified with ANG as an instructor.

How do you get qualified for all that stuff? I'm new to the ES program but have been in the cadet Program for a year this coming March.

Talk to your squadron Emergency Services officer about opportunities to train. Make sure you've taken the GES (CAPT 116) test online (through E-Services), and it won't hurt to knock off the extra parts either (CAPT 117).

Also, check your Group & Wing calendar for upcoming SAREXs and ES training events and attend as often as possible. :)

I just got PSC (well, I will as soon as wing approves it). So far, that is the hardest ES function I've encountered. I'm sure IC is harder, but I'm not there yet. Prioritizing missions, updating your parts of the status board and maps, those [rant]stupid[/rant] incident objective and incident action plan (IAP) forms, integrating facts and "rumors" into the incident strategy, continuously modifying the IAP and objectives, avoiding the tendency to help the OSC relay info and orders to the AOBD and GBD, etc etc etc...

If this job is done right, it is potentially the most time consuming job right under IC. Now I see why CAP makes you get it before IC, AL, OSC, or any other high level ES rating.

Let's see what it looks like now:GESSETFLMUDFGTM3GTM2GTM1GTLGBDMSMOMSAMROCULPSCAOBD*OSC*FLS*LSC*FASC*LO*MSO*IO*

It's a start. Keep in mind that GES is the basis for all other qualifications. If you lose GES (usually due to failure to take the online update tests), you lose EVERYTHING. I know of several members who put off taking the new GES test after the last revision of the ES regs and came to a SAREX only to find out they weren't qualified for ANYTHING ( the MP's were really p.o.'d ;D).

When the online update tests come out, your unit ES officer or Commander should tell you about them. BUt, the folks here will most likely post about the difficulty level of the tests (generally not very :)).

For GES, how come you have to re-take the update test when it says, "NO EXPIRE" for the expiration date on my 101 card? Also, how do you know when to take the update test? Are you informed by someone (or automatically)? And for my qualifications... currently, I only have:

I'm going to guess that you're speaking of links such as the 101 Cards. The reason why that is is because it is easier to simply link over parts to make the card "offcial" however, parts still remain on WMU.

WMU also allows for things that MIMS does not: mainly remote mission management. It allows for coordination of missions over the internet either using the WMU website or by using IMU which links to the WMU server.

No the part i was refering to was the pilot information. If i have hear right, if you click on the pilot information box in the WMU it just redirects you to MIMS. All the information is shared between MIMS and WMU on a daily basis.

Maybe i also favor the WMU/IMU a little becuase the member who wrote the programs is in my wing.

And yall don't bother with national 101 they will laugh if you bring one to a mission.

Huh?

By the way, check the spelling of "Sergent[sic]" in your sig line. And while you're at it, it's recommended you add a C/ to the front of it, unless you're a prior service NCO.

As well, you may want to pass on to your senior members that having a website with an ad as a precursor to entering, especially without a disclaimer that says that CAP doesn't endorse said ad may be problematic. Your wing should be able to give you a domain under their ncwg.cap.gov domain.

^^^ Wow Gentleman......now the big test.....pass it off at a SAREX/Mission. I would imagine you can, then be like "this excercise, I will be in the comm room eating donuts and microwaving popcorn, any body needing those areas signed off come see me"!

^^^ Wow Gentleman......now the big test.....pass it off at a SAREX/Mission. I would imagine you can, then be like "this excercise, I will be in the comm room eating donuts and microwaving popcorn, any body needing those areas signed off come see me"!

Pure AWESOME :D

I've been pulling those duties for lots o' SAREXs...actuals, too. I've got a couple of those blue ribbons, after all...

^^^ Wow Gentleman......now the big test.....pass it off at a SAREX/Mission. I would imagine you can, then be like "this excercise, I will be in the comm room eating donuts and microwaving popcorn, any body needing those areas signed off come see me"!

Pure AWESOME :D

I've already got one printed off and in my go-bag, next to a real legit one, just in case such an opportunity comes up where the situation needs to be lightened a little bit.

As ground team, 4 actual search missions with 4 finds, including a sortie for Columbia where the "find" was actually some loose cotton left over on the field from harvest. Numerous DR missions and innumerable training missions. As aircrew, several SERE and firewatch missions and many training missions.

GTM-1,2,3GTLALPSCOSCFSCLSCIC-3IC-2FLMFLSMROCULMSMOMPthat's about it. I've been on about 300-400 mission in the last 4 or 5 years. About 15 missing A/C missions, couple missing person searches.... But I know a guy (from California) that far trumps my meager experience....

I was in Southern California last year and had my CAP radio on. I listened to a few mission that they were running, seems that they run over one a day from Los Angeles to San Diego. There is a guy there that I heard runs or responds to over 100 missions a year and has a full time job too! He is both an IC and GTL. I was told he has over 100 distress finds, a dozen saves and undoubtedly a thousand non distress finds. I would think he would have bragging rights but why have we not heard from or about him. Seems like that would make for a good story in the CAP Volunteer! Anyone heard of anyone like that in California?

I was in Southern California last year and had my CAP radio on. I listened to a few mission that they were running, seems that they run over one a day from Los Angeles to San Diego. There is a guy there that I heard runs or responds to over 100 missions a year and has a full time job too! He is both an IC and GTL. I was told he has over 100 distress finds, a dozen saves and undoubtedly a thousand non distress finds. I would think he would have bragging rights but why have we not heard from or about him. Seems like that would make for a good story in the CAP Volunteer! Anyone heard of anyone like that in California?

I know him personally. Good guy. Extremely knowledgeable. I'm not sure your statistics are entirely correct. Sometimes doesn't play well with others. I'd guess he would have little good to say about most of the discussions that occur on here. I'll say no more.

Hey SARGUY...sounds impressive...Just where do you get all those missions. Who is the guy from California, do you know him? Is it true? You must be from Florida or California to get all those missions. How do you do that?

SARPilotNY, Yeah, I know who he is.. I know the stats are accurate. I know that he handles most of the missions in Southern California as the IC but also sometimes as the UDF person. I would say that 1,000 Non-Distress finds is probably a conservative number. When there are over 300+ missions per year (in CA and FL) and some have multiple signals attached, it's not hard to amass those numbers in the twenty-some years he's been in (maybe longer, I'm not sure how old he is).

I know that there are only 4-5 people in Southern CA that actually go out on missions any more, so some probably have a couple-hundred finds as well. Big states=lots of ELT's=lots of finds...

Funny thing about this guy.. When I met him, it was at a formal banquet and he didn't have any ribbons, badges, anything... Said he wasn't in it for the recognition, didn't care about the "FIND" ribbons, in fact thought we should get rid of the ribbon. I think he's got 100+ airplane finds as well...

SARPilotNY, Yeah, I know who he is.. I know the stats are accurate. I know that he handles most of the missions in Southern California as the IC but also sometimes as the UDF person. I would say that 1,000 Non-Distress finds is probably a conservative number. When there are over 300+ missions per year (in CA and FL) and some have multiple signals attached, it's not hard to amass those numbers in the twenty-some years he's been in (maybe longer, I'm not sure how old he is).

I know that there are only 4-5 people in Southern CA that actually go out on missions any more, so some probably have a couple-hundred finds as well. Big states=lots of ELT's=lots of finds...

Funny thing about this guy.. When I met him, it was at a formal banquet and he didn't have any ribbons, badges, anything... Said he wasn't in it for the recognition, didn't care about the "FIND" ribbons, in fact thought we should get rid of the ribbon. I think he's got 100+ airplane finds as well...

OK...so who are these guys? And why in a wing with as many members do 4 or 5 guys run and respond on 300 plus missions? Is there a click going on? A "glass" ceiling. Seems something is wrong. I wonder how many people run all those missions in Florida? 4 or 5 or 100 to 200? Any answers from CA or FL?

Maybe because not everyone has a job that's flexible enough to let you respond whenever the balloon goes up?

My boss would laugh in my face if I said "Hey, L. T., I've got another ELT going off, gotta run". Okay, go ahead and take the night off from fighting crime. In fact, my squadron commander is a cop too, not to mention a Colonel (group commander) in the AF RES. Between his full-time job, deployments to the box and a family, I'd say most missions are pretty much left up to those few folks who are self employed, retired, in between semesters in college, or just happen to have one of those jobs where the boss is outright supportive of them playing Rambo at a moments notice.

Maybe because not everyone has a job that's flexible enough to let you respond whenever the balloon goes up?

My boss would laugh in my face if I said "Hey, L. T., I've got another ELT going off, gotta run". Okay, go ahead and take the night off from fighting crime. In fact, my squadron commander is a cop too, not to mention a Colonel (group commander) in the AF RES. Between his full-time job, deployments to the box and a family, I'd say most missions are pretty much left up to those few folks who are self employed, retired, in between semesters in college, or just happen to have one of those jobs where the boss is outright supportive of them playing Rambo at a moments notice.

True...but California must have several thousand members and only less than a dozen that respond? I guess that shoots down National's video that we have 53,000 highly trained volunteers that will be on station within two hours of accepting a mission! Even if were are self employed, we lose $$$.

True...but California must have several thousand members and only less than a dozen that respond? I guess that shoots down National's video that we have 53,000 highly trained volunteers that will be on station within two hours of accepting a mission! Even if were are self employed, we lose $$$.

True...but California must have several thousand members and only less than a dozen that respond? I guess that shoots down National's video that we have 53,000 highly trained volunteers that will be on station within two hours of accepting a mission! Even if were are self employed, we lose $$$.

So what's your solution for a fix?

Can't throw money at it! If we had a top quality program "you will build it, people will come" would be the answer. We need quality, not quanity. We have some great people and we need to build from there with strong leadership from the top! Dreaming??? Maybe...

True...but California must have several thousand members and only less than a dozen that respond? I guess that shoots down National's video that we have 53,000 highly trained volunteers that will be on station within two hours of accepting a mission! Even if were are self employed, we lose $$$.

So what's your solution for a fix?

Can't throw money at it! If we had a top quality program "you will build it, people will come" would be the answer. We need quality, not quanity. We have some great people and we need to build from there with strong leadership from the top! Dreaming??? Maybe...

If you have guys with 100 + finds, they must be doing something right, maybe we can learn something from them.

I think that this thread is off topic. You might want to start a new one to continue. The original intent, up until yesterday/today, has been talking about their 101 card achievements, not about lights and such.

SARPilotNY, Yeah, I know who he is.. I know the stats are accurate. I know that he handles most of the missions in Southern California as the IC but also sometimes as the UDF person. I would say that 1,000 Non-Distress finds is probably a conservative number. When there are over 300+ missions per year (in CA and FL) and some have multiple signals attached, it's not hard to amass those numbers in the twenty-some years he's been in (maybe longer, I'm not sure how old he is).

I know that there are only 4-5 people in Southern CA that actually go out on missions any more, so some probably have a couple-hundred finds as well. Big states=lots of ELT's=lots of finds...

Funny thing about this guy.. When I met him, it was at a formal banquet and he didn't have any ribbons, badges, anything... Said he wasn't in it for the recognition, didn't care about the "FIND" ribbons, in fact thought we should get rid of the ribbon. I think he's got 100+ airplane finds as well...

OK...so who are these guys? And why in a wing with as many members do 4 or 5 guys run and respond on 300 plus missions? Is there a click going on? A "glass" ceiling. Seems something is wrong. I wonder how many people run all those missions in Florida? 4 or 5 or 100 to 200? Any answers from CA or FL?

The CAWG guy in question turns 50 next month. (Thought he was younger than that.) As stated above, we probably have at least three or so dozen folks who do missions. There are 5 or 6 in my unit alone. The periodic PAs that come out listing ND finds usually fill both sides of a page, and have at least that many individual names.

True...but California must have several thousand members and only less than a dozen that respond? I guess that shoots down National's video that we have 53,000 highly trained volunteers that will be on station within two hours of accepting a mission! Even if were are self employed, we lose $$$.

California Wing, as of this posting, has 3032 members, 2000 of which are SMs. A significant number no longer participate due to age, health, etc., but continue their financial contributions. I'm sure most other wings have a similar situation.

Had a chance to talk to a friend from CAWG this weekend and the subject of bragging right came up. He confirmed two guys from San Diego ran 42 percent of the wings 300+ missions. In addition to the 42 percent that they ran, they also participated in the field or in the air on a few dozen more. They also had several distress finds too. He said both guys had participated in over 100 missions last year...can anyone top that? It still begs the question to be answered...are these guys hogging the missions or does everyone else sit on the butts? Also of note, one of them found an ELT in a Predator unmanned vehicle last week. Anyone know anything about that?

Had a chance to talk to a friend from CAWG this weekend and the subject of bragging right came up. He confirmed two guys from San Diego ran 42 percent of the wings 300+ missions. In addition to the 42 percent that they ran, they also participated in the field or in the air on a few dozen more. They also had several distress finds too. He said both guys had participated in over 100 missions last year...can anyone top that? It still begs the question to be answered...are these guys hogging the missions or does everyone else sit on the butts? Also of note, one of them found an ELT in a Predator unmanned vehicle last week. Anyone know anything about that?

They are more available than most other folks in the San Diego area. That is slowly changing as more folks get trained and become available.

Search mission 07M1302 was opened and closed 20 July 2007 for anunregistered 406 Beacon in the San Diego area. The ELT was located andsecured by a US CAP UDF team at General Atomics Aeronautical Systems in a Predator unmanned vehicle and secured.

Had a chance to talk to a friend from CAWG this weekend and the subject of bragging right came up. He confirmed two guys from San Diego ran 42 percent of the wings 300+ missions. In addition to the 42 percent that they ran, they also participated in the field or in the air on a few dozen more. They also had several distress finds too. He said both guys had participated in over 100 missions last year...can anyone top that? It still begs the question to be answered...are these guys hogging the missions or does everyone else sit on the butts? Also of note, one of them found an ELT in a Predator unmanned vehicle last week. Anyone know anything about that?

CAWG has real issues! These two guys are running and responding to almost all the missions in So Cal! Where are the other 300 ES personnel in So Cal?

No current ratings (except B-CUT)I have been on two non-distress UDF missions about 2 or 3 years ago, as a UDF(t) but I never completed the tasks, and I kinda got out of the ES side of the program eventually.

Not interested in anything else other than communications. Been involved for 47 years, so I have no clue as to how many missions I've worked. Was a Mission Coordinator under the old system. Just point me to a radio and I'm happy.

GESGTM1-T (The only thing I have left is sight surveillance, then I'll be fully qualified)UDFFLM (Just requalled)MRO (As soon as I can dig up some old logs, I'll be qualified. Same for communications technical rating)MSA

I think this might fall under the subject of Bragging Rights. It's an article published in the Smithonian Air & Space magazine about CAP. Thanks to Col Ken Perris for sending it to the troops in CA Wing.

Had a 2 for 1 mission last week...2 ELT's within 400 yards of each other on the airport. Had both located within an hour, one shut down night of, other the next morning when I could get access to the hanger. We had three teams out on the field, 2 with L-Pers and me with my Mk4 Sniffer....the other two teams were looking in dumpsters, and walking in circles (the 2 signals were confusing them). Again the Sniffer works it's magic leaving no shadow of a doubt what was going on.

hey did anyone else see my squadron on the news make that save at valley of fire heck yes go nellis the poeple on camrera are my freinds unfortanly i changed my mind not to go to that sarex witch turned into an actally mission last minute

hey did anyone else see my squadron on the news make that save at valley of fire heck yes go nellis the poeple on camrera are my freinds unfortanly i changed my mind not to go to that sarex witch turned into an actally mission last minute

You're squadron commander already made a thread about it. I'll leave the locating of said thread up to you; consider it CAPTalk freshman orientation :)

Saturday night (really Sunday morning - 1:45am), I get the call - 121.5 in the area. Myself and one of our Sq. Commanders form a UDF team and head out. We first spent a bit of time checking airfields near one of the merges, then check the other out. About .5 mile from the second merge, we get AoS - reasonably weak. My vertical antenna on the vehicle roof is barely - if at all - picking it up, while the L-Per is doing quite well. After chasing it for a little bit I realized that it was horizontally polarized (by rotating a portable beam I was using horizontally). Also, the differently patterened reflections had us going in slightly wrong directions. After a bit of negotating through neighborhoods around a lake (which of course entailed exiting out of a given neighborhood and around a bit to enter the next), we finally tracked the signal to a private home about 1.9 mi from the second merge. At 6:30am we rang the doorbell, and when we asked the homeowner if he had an emergency beacon (perhaps from a boat?), he immediately said, "Umm.. Come on in..". It was lying on a table in the living room. :)

We silenced it about 2 hours after AoS - which I think was pretty good considering it was horizontal and we had to snake our way through several lakefront neighborhoods.

Lessons learned:

The db loss on the vertical from being 90 degrees out of phase was stunning. Parked 1 house away from the target location, I still had only 2 bars of signal strength on my mobile Yaesu. Since we were using the Yaesu as a rough guide to determine if we were close enough to warrant stopping and determining a bearing, we wasted a bit of time. Might have to figure out a horizontally polarized mobile antenna setup with a switching arrangement.

My 2 element portable beam worked as well or a little better than the L-Per at determining a bearing (since I could body-null it) and at 1/7th the cost ($100 or so - but plugged into a ham HT with a good signal meter).

GPS is VERY handy when going through these neighborhoods. Street Atlas on a laptop is much better since you can easily plot bearings and make notations as to your findings. Also handy for plotting the merges and the actual location to gather statistics on the average offsets.

hey did anyone else see my squadron on the news make that save at valley of fire heck yes go nellis the poeple on camrera are my freinds unfortanly i changed my mind not to go to that sarex witch turned into an actally mission last minute

I'm one of those cadets, not to brag, oh wait! I do. Anyway, the thread is called "These are my boys" for those of you who don't already know. And currently I am GES and GTM3 qualified trying to get to GTM2 at least. Go NCS!

Thanks guys. I do not know if it is just being blessed or that I am just crazy for getting out of bed at 2 am. Either way, it has been interesting.

When I was Squadron Commander, I had not updated my ribbon rack in some time. I sent a 2a to the Wing Commander to sign, to catch up on my clasp for the SAR ribbon. The Wing Commander was a little sceptical about signing a 2a for "27" clasp. I sent him a copy of my mission log spreadsheet. ;D I got the 2a back the next day - signed.

Stonewall - I still have the challange coin you gave me. Those little acts of kindness really mean a lot.

GESGTM3GTM2* <-- Everything is done, just need to find the people to sign me for the missions that I've already doneGTL* <-- Not going to work on til GTM1 is completed to hone my skills first... have this for those SAReXs where they need a GTLFLM* <-- Everything done except 1 mission and a talking to about refueling an airplaneSET

IS-100IS-XXX - Working on 200, searching for the other classes

And Lastly, I'm working on getting the Emergency Services Badge. Once I finish that, I may wear the badge and once I turn to the dark side (For the cookies!), I can have already a tech rating and be working towards the senior rating of it.

GESGTM3GTM2* <-- Everything is done, just need to find the people to sign me for the missions that I've already doneGTL* <-- Not going to work on til GTM1 is completed to hone my skills first... have this for those SAReXs where they need a GTLFLM* <-- Everything done except 1 mission and a talking to about refueling an airplaneSET

IS-100IS-XXX - Working on 200, searching for the other classes

And Lastly, I'm working on getting the Emergency Services Badge. Once I finish that, I may wear the badge and once I turn to the dark side (For the cookies!), I can have already a tech rating and be working towards the senior rating of it.

GESGTM3GTM2* <-- Everything is done, just need to find the people to sign me for the missions that I've already doneGTL* <-- Not going to work on til GTM1 is completed to hone my skills first... have this for those SAReXs where they need a GTLFLM* <-- Everything done except 1 mission and a talking to about refueling an airplaneSET

IS-100IS-XXX - Working on 200, searching for the other classes

And Lastly, I'm working on getting the Emergency Services Badge. Once I finish that, I may wear the badge and once I turn to the dark side (For the cookies!), I can have already a tech rating and be working towards the senior rating of it.

The dark side does not eat cookies.

...they're donuts.

My unit dithced the donuts and went to the cookies. They last longer than the donuts. ;D

but I am working to get requalified in some less strenuous specialties. I ran around in the woods and made midnight dashes through airplane hangars for 25+ years. Time for something a little more genteel.

Our squadron desperately needed someone to take on the Ground side of our ES staff about 6 months ago. Unfortunately my Observer and Scanner quals lapsed because of my "new" focus...

UDFGTM, 1, 2, 3GTLMSAMROSETIS 100, 200, 700, 800MS*MO*

However, I'm not mad because in the last 6 months we've trained 14 cadets to GTM-3 and a few to GTM-2. They're a good group and more are showing up to each ES activity. Now...if I could just get them to take IS-700... :)

If you don't mind me asking, have they started adding these to the 101 recently? And how can you get *WS if one of the prerequisites is mission scanner? Correct me if I am wrong but don't you have all prerequisites in order to obtain trainee status?

those are not test required (by my knowledge) for anything CAP related but I saw somebody else list there ESF #9 and figured that I might as well list the ones I have passed. I repeat these are not required for anything CAP I tock them because I was bored and felt like it.

I Listed *WS because that is something I am hoping to start eventually I shouldn't have listed that I guess sorry

The training in only three specialties ended when paper 101Ts went away, a bunch of years ago. Currently there is no limitation, and until they fixed the software, having a signoff for a common task would turn you on as a trainee in anything that required that task (BCUT comes to mind).

The training in only three specialties ended when paper 101Ts went away, a bunch of years ago. Currently there is no limitation, and until they fixed the software, having a signoff for a common task would turn you on as a trainee in anything that required that task (BCUT comes to mind).

No, it doesn't. You still need commander approval to be listed as a trainee in each specialty.

The system WILL carry over individual task sign-offs for all specialties that share that common task. But it doesn't automatically make you a trainee for that specialty.

Our squad has NEVER gone on a search and rescue. all the ones our wing gets (which is rarely) are down south (i'm in very north end). so even if we were asked to come down it'd be hard. So i have no real experinces under my belt. maybe some day :)

Our squad has NEVER gone on a search and rescue. all the ones our wing gets (which is rarely) are down south (i'm in very north end). so even if we were asked to come down it'd be hard. So i have no real experinces under my belt. maybe some day :)

I for one hope that you never have the opportunity to have to deploy what you've learned. Kind of like hoping someone will get in a car accident so you can save their life...good job though on getting your training going!

CERT*FLM*UDF*GTM3*MSA*SETGESIS-100 and 700cert for SDISive been on 3 ELT missions and 1 DR Pres. declare Mission all i need for FLM UDF GTM 3 and to get trainee stat for some others is BCUT congratson all of your quals and a big thanks to all CAP cadets and senior members to all who serve proudly and selflessly along with the helpful support of their family friends and all who contribute :clap: 8)

Oh and did I mention that I'm a member of the number 1 ground team in the nation.

You must be talking about SWR-TX-091. Never fear...SWR-TX-026 is taking steps to follow in your footsteps.

KY-216 has bragging rights for FASTEST FIND OF AN ELT if ANYONE has beat our recently set record of 15 MINUTES tell me and by the way we have the bragging rights for ever on finding an ELT in 15 minutes in one of the best and most secret and crowed places on an airfield.....Ft. Campbell and it was the 19th ASOS (160th for the ones familiar with them) and anyone who knows them knows what its like there. 8) but can't say anymore bout them like i said there very protective bout what people that's been there say :-X sorry :-\

The speed to find an ELT is hardly debatable, considering there are so many variables involved. The call, the launch, getting on scene, etc.

IE, in most scenarios it takes 15 minutes just for the WMAO to record the call from AFRCC and call the first or second IC.

Oh, so you're on "scene" already, thats like getting a first class seat on The Amazing Race, of course you're going to get there "in record time". Normally, it even takes about 15 minutes to get from a front gate to a flight line on a military base, maybe even 15 minutes from the security check at the flight line entrance.

well the 160th knows us all to well so we just have to go to base ops and have them call the 160 to tell them were comming and we just pull up, get an escort and go straight to a hanger of our guess and were usealy right within the first 2 guesses but from the time (which was convienite since we were just done with a meeting and we were still all togather) we got the call from the IC to the time we found it was about 30 mins cause it only took us 5- 10 mins to get out there and start so it was a record and praise from the AFRCC for not useing much fuel or time and well to make a funny the guy out there said "I was running around resetting the ELT's and then calling base ops to see if it was still going off for 6 HOURS"....WHAT WAS HE USEING......HIS CELL PHONE??????? :clap: it was the highlight of the year ;D

well the 160th knows us all to well so we just have to go to base ops and have them call the 160 to tell them were comming and we just pull up, get an escort and go straight to a hanger of our guess and were usealy right within the first 2 guesses but from the time (which was convienite since we were just done with a meeting and we were still all togather) we got the call from the IC to the time we found it was about 30 mins cause it only took us 5- 10 mins to get out there and start so it was a record and praise from the AFRCC for not useing much fuel or time and well to make a funny the guy out there said "I was running around resetting the ELT's and then calling base ops to see if it was still going off for 6 HOURS"....WHAT WAS HE USEING......HIS CELL PHONE??????? :clap: it was the highlight of the year ;D

On my 101 card, I'm a MSA, UDF trainee and a MS trainee. In real life, I'm a graduate of Nationsl SAR School, a Mission Coordinator, a Transport Pilot, An Air Operations Officer, A ground Team Leader, A Communications Officer, An Information Officer, An itelligence Officer and I have over 250 operational missions I have over 100 finds. I have shut off over 25 ELT"s on my own. I have been a Squadron CC, a Group CC and a Wing Air Operations Officer. I was a Cadet in the 1960's and due to military service did not re-join until the latr 1980"s

GES (duh, if you have a 101 card, you'll have GES)GTM1GTLFLMFLSMROSETUDFACUTIS-100IS-200IS-700IS-800

I'm also qualified by the state of Virginia as a field team leader.

I did NBB, so that counts as one mission, but I got my ten sorties for the SAR ribbon there. Other than that, I've been GTL on two real missions, and at one USAF SAREVAL (and I won't count training missions or airshows).

Well, R2D2 ... means nada on the ES. I do believe this was about what your ES card shows, not the parallel universe ratings that mean nothing outside of that realm. Especially when they are not signed off.

Well, R2D2 ... means nada on the ES. I do believe this was about what your ES card shows, not the parallel universe ratings that mean nothing outside of that realm. Especially when they are not signed off.

Well, R2D2 ... means nada on the ES. I do believe this was about what your ES card shows, not the parallel universe ratings that mean nothing outside of that realm. Especially when they are not signed off.

This...

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Like it or not there is still going to be rangers in CAP and no matter what they do we will still have the tittle!

"rangers" are fine. It's the attitude that comes from it a lot of the time thats not. You are a 'ranger', you are NOT special. A 'ranger' will not show up on my mission with the holier than thou attitude and expect me to move out of the way or bow down to it just because they went to some week long course that gave them a title that is not anywhere else in the structure.

Yup, it's very simple. The funny thing is along the way I've met some that have become experts at it, gone back and staffed, and participate in the system well. They cite the time spent in the mountains of PA as worthwhile, and they learned from it. They learned a lot. They don't go around beating a drum shoving it in everyones face and complaining that everything else is pointless, stupid or a waste of time.

Not much to brag about, otherwise: I do what I can, where I can. Cadet programs seems to have crept into the forefront in my vicinity ..

UDFMROCUL that needs FEMA classes and can't find the time to do it. MP that needs a Form 5/91 because real life got in the way.

"rangers" are fine. It's the attitude that comes from it a lot of the time thats not. You are a 'ranger', you are NOT special. A 'ranger' will not show up on my mission with the holier than thou attitude and expect me to move out of the way or bow down to it just because they went to some week long course that gave them a title that is not anywhere else in the structure.

Yup, it's very simple. The funny thing is along the way I've met some that have become experts at it, gone back and staffed, and participate in the system well. They cite the time spent in the mountains of PA as worthwhile, and they learned from it. They learned a lot. They don't go around beating a drum shoving it in everyones face and complaining that everything else is pointless, stupid or a waste of time.

Not much to brag about, otherwise: I do what I can, where I can. Cadet programs seems to have crept into the forefront in my vicinity ..

UDFMROCUL that needs FEMA classes and can't find the time to do it. MP that needs a Form 5/91 because real life got in the way.

I have never said we are special, in fact i dnt like those who go out and think they are the best thing in cap because they are rangers. Now, I have to say some of the requirements for ranger certifications arent present for GTM3 and GTM2 and some of those tasks have helped me a lot in the field.

I'm pretty sure that if Miss Manners were reading this thread that she'd say something about dealing with rude people. It certainly isn't good manners to go around chastising people, especially strangers.

I should have my GTM 3, UDF but something got screwed up... I have my BCUT, CPR, 1st Aid... but i have a hilarious story from a GSARC:Back in April we were out at Ft. Pickett, Blackstone VA for a GSARC.. Well I was standing in the guys barracks talking with a few guys from another squadron. well my gingerheaded cadet cmdr walks in, and is like "well ms.Benz" picks me up and tossed me over his shoulder and carried me outta the barracks and put down then walked back in like nothing happened...

I just finished up my UDF yesterday, just gotta upload the paperwork, and my Ranger 2nd Class is pretty much done, except a fire building test. Every time I attempt to take it, it always ends up raining :(. Next I am gonna work on MRO stuff and get started on my GTM2.

I will be asking the higher powers of the rain god and the burning orange ball to help me through my addiction. I will also be sacrificing any packages of charms candy to the aforementioned "deities" to appease their wrath and help me become ES free, or at least able to do ES when I want to, rather than feeling compelled to do it.

Where'd you get your "POD Cert?" Is there a curriculum available that I could steal review?

Haha, well, currently it is only something offered depending on what wing you are in. It usually consists of taking the IS 26 course, and then some type of class room training portion, and then hands on training ( actually running a miniature mock POD). For those of you who don't know, POD stands for Point of Distribution.

Oh, God forbid I should include under *hint hint* "NOT ON 101 CARD" my stuff that is *Hint* "NOT ON MY 101 CARD". How is this relevant to CAP? Maybe because I recieved this training through CAP, and my wing has helped to operate PODs. Let us take a moment to look back at my original post- did I mention anything about CAP being fully responsible for the running and planning of a POD? No, all I said was that I am qualified to help operate a POD. My next question to you would be, why do you feel the need to try and correct me on my posts? Am I even speaking to you? No, I was replying to the question that Ed Boss asked me.

This isnt worth my time. I dont even have to acknowledge the fact you are trying to troll me over something as stupid as this. excuse me ladies and gentlemen, but I am now going to usem y time in a more productive manner.

This isnt worth my time. I dont even have to acknowledge the fact you are trying to troll me over something as stupid as this. excuse me ladies and gentlemen, but I am now going to usem y time in a more productive manner.

I don't see why you're getting your panties all in a bunch. The directions are very clear - ok peeps... post your *current* ES ratings. Meaning, whatever you've got on your 101 card.They were restated for your benefit. "Coppin' a 'tude" about it won't make us any friendlier, either.

If you're looking for something better to use your time for, try working on your writing skills. They need some help.

I will be asking the higher powers of the rain god and the burning orange ball to help me through my addiction. I will also be sacrificing any packages of charms candy to the aforementioned "deities" to appease their wrath and help me become ES free, or at least able to do ES when I want to, rather than feeling compelled to do it.

I actually had a pack of charms... They tasted so good last winter during a wing wide training weekend... They called it operation iceberg... But I guess they were too old, it didn't rain or snow the whole time.

I will be asking the higher powers of the rain god and the burning orange ball to help me through my addiction. I will also be sacrificing any packages of charms candy to the aforementioned "deities" to appease their wrath and help me become ES free, or at least able to do ES when I want to, rather than feeling compelled to do it.

I actually had a pack of charms... They tasted so good last winter during a wing wide training weekend... They called it operation iceberg... But I guess they were too old, it didn't rain or snow the whole time.

I'm surprised. It is interesting to see the variation on the charms belief from unit to unit and service to service. It would be an interesting anthropological study.

It isn't so much another belief, but a matter of the variation in the ritual that goes with the belief. My younger brother said that in his battallion he had to burn them when he found them and that was enough. We had to sacrifice something good, poundcake for example, with the charms. If not, it would rain or snow or rain and snow. I've run into a guy from 1st Armored who said as long as they were thrown away with the rest of the garbage and not consumed, they would not unleash bad weather.

When we got them it was supposed to be burned as well... But I kept my last pack from Afghanistan.

We would sometimes be jerks and would mess with new privates and tell them to eat the charms, to just eat them like skittles, just open them up and chew them up. It was really cool the first time we did it to one too, he ate them just like we told him to and our PSG saw it and yelled at him that if it rained it would be his fault and he would smoke him until it stopped raining because it was the only way to get it to stop... It did rain, and hard for about two hours, and he smoked him in the rain the whole time. Needles to say he barfed those charms back up and was made to bury them.

We did similar things at Drum, but FNG's would end up getting smoked until it stopped snowing. If you have never been to Drum during a snowstorm, we had almost 4 1/2 feet fall in my company area in 24 hours in the winter of 2006-2007. We didn't have to do much more than hand the FNG a shovel and tell him to go to work >:D

Think that's it... I only need one more mission for UDF basically and still have one more mission plus a lot of other stuff for GTM3. Looking to get involved as much as possible in the ES area. Will expand a lot when I turn 18 next year.

I claim bragging rights for two of my cadets. This weekend the DEWG had a SAREVAL which was rated as "SUCCESFUL". Two of my cadets were working as MSA's in the Planning Section. The section received an "EXCELLENT". During the debriefing, my two cadets were singled-out by the CAP-USAF Detachment CC as "OUTSTANDING" and received challange coins. Way to go Jake and Andrea!!

Too many to list but I just finished a 4 month deployment to the Philippines for Disaster relief for a Typhoon that hit Quezon Province. 2 weeks later an earthquake devastated the province of Bohol and parts of Cebu, and then 3 weeks after that a Super Typhoon smashed into Tacloban and other parts of Visayas. Then earlier this week flooding hit Butuan Philippines and I have a team there right now. 2013 was a long year for me.

No, those were not CAP missions. Yes they were actual missions, and yes, it was a rough time.

I left in the expiration dates for anyone thinking I just copied the whole list. I don't have sign-offs for ADIS or GIIEP (although I'm checked out in both), anything about ARCHER or Surrogate Pred, CISM, or CERT. Or Mission Chaplain....