Roadway assaults between motor vehicle operators and people on bikes and foot happen all the time. They usually don’t end well. This one did. At least for the victim.

On August 27th, Portland resident Paul Jeffery and his friends were trying to cross SE Division near 48th when he was assaulted by a woman driving a car. Jeffery says that about mid-way across the street the woman, “swerved around me close enough that my hand come into contact with the passenger side mirror.”

After that close call he says the woman — who is employed by Uber — turned around and approached him. The two had a heated back-and-forth about what happened and then, Jeffery says, the woman accosted him. She walked up to him, yelled loudly, then tore the $400 prescription glasses off his face, crushed them to pieces, threw them into the street, got back in her car and drove away (despite Jeffery and his friends sitting on her hood to prevent her from leaving).

Paul Jeffery.(Photo: J. Maus/BikePortland)

Jeffery, who goes by “PJ”, happens to be a citizen activist (we published a ride-along with him in 2012) who helped lead the community response to the death of Fallon Smart and spoke at a neighborhood panel on road safety earlier this week. Smart is the 15-year-old who was brutally run down and killed just a few blocks away by a man who was going twice the speed limit.

Given that, you can imagine how heated his words were with this woman whose dangerous driving nearly cost him his life. However, while Jeffery doesn’t deny using strong language during the exchange, he contends that unlike the woman in the car, he never got physical. He also denies causing any damage to the woman’s car, despite her assertions otherwise.

After the incident Jeffery immediately call the Portland Police and a few minutes later gave his statement to Officer David Arnold.

The next morning Jeffery emailed Uber to report their driver. He also shared several photos with them to serve as evidence of his story (a portrait of the driver, her Uber decal, the lack of damage to her mirror, and his broken glasses).

“I will be pressing charges against her,” he wrote, “and I require your cooperation to discover her name, and to remove her from your list of drivers.” (The police officer couldn’t immediately find the driver’s name because her car had temporary tags.)

Jeffery wanted to make sure the woman never drove for Uber again (or drove anywhere for that matter, “until she understands how dangerous her behavior is”). He also wanted to be compensated for his wrecked glasses.

Meanwhile, Jeffery posted about the incident on Twitter (he uses the platform frequently). He shared photos of the woman and asked the community to help him find her. Sure enough, a few hours after posting the information, Jeffery connected with someone who found the woman’s Facebook.

Her name is Chrissy Shoaff and she boasted about the incident to her friends.

“I ripped an old man’s glasses in half today,” she wrote. “I bet he didn’t see it coming.”

Here are the screenshots:

With her identity known, Jeffery grabbed screenshots of her Facebook account and sent them to Officer Arnold.

“He was really thankful [for the screenshots],” Jeffery shared with us via email. It was a strong lead. Officer Arnold then met with Jeffery one more time to talk about the case and collect the broken glasses as evidence.

After meeting with Jeffery (now eight days after the incident), Officer Arnold arrested Shoaff. She was charged with Criminal Mischief and Harassment.

Jeffery is now awaiting a court date. He plans to testify and feels confident that his case is strong. And Shoaff will have to pay for his glasses through the victim compensation program.

Shoaff, who bragged on Facebook that Jeffery “didn’t see that coming” before assaulting him, has taken her page down.

Jeffery says it’s a lesson that bragging about illegal behavior on the Internet is not a good idea. “And I bet she didn’t see this arrest coming,” he added.

UPDATE, 4:50pm: We’ve been contacted by Jon Isaacs, Uber’s public affairs manager for Oregon. He says Shoaff was immediately suspended and is permanently banned from driving for Uber.

Here’s his statement:

I want to clarify that Ms. Shoaff was not an employee of Uber. She is an independent Uber Driver-Partner. Driver-partners are not employees of Uber.

As soon as we received the incident report Ms. Shoaff was immediately suspended from accessing the Uber platform. She has since been permanently banned from driving on the Uber platform.

Driver, rider and pedestrian safety continue to be our top priority when supporting Uber driver-partners. We have a zero tolerance policy for any reckless or dangerous actions by drivers or riders.

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The way Uber attempts to structure things, drivers are only actually “working for Uber” when they actually have a fare in the car and logged on the app. I hope that is weak in court, but that is when their insurance kicks in and when they consider the “contractor” to be working.

I hope the “contractor” arguments are also weak after the same drivers are working for Uber for over a year or more. The IRS interprets things differently when it comes to multi-year 1099 forms with payments from the same corporation.

An uber employee is someone like the person that does pr for uber.. Gets a paycheck and can claim unemployment when fired .. A driver partner is just an independent contractor that can be disposed of immediately… Technically not an employee

Uber has proven time and time again to be a negative force in our transportation industry– to customers, employees and innocent bystanders alike. I wonder why that is? Oh yeah: they hired Hales and Novick’s lobbyist, Mark Wiener, to represent them in closed-door meetings with city council before magically getting the green light to operate in Portland.

I don’t like the lack of accountability. However, the Uber drivers I’ve met have all said it’s a flexible way to make a few extra bucks. In the larger perspective, Uber is one service/asset of many (e.g. Trimet, grocery delivery service, the city’s cycling amenities) that enable people like myself to live here without owning a car.

I’m terrified of riding in Uber or Lyft. Why would I trust a complete stranger to perform the most dangerous aspect of my day to day life? Its insane. Cab drivers have medallions, and they are discouraged from wrecking into stuff. Hire a cab or walk. ps. super stoked that they caught this lunatic

My wife’s friend arranged an Uber ride for her after they were out having dinner and drinks. The driver stopped the car mid-way during the ride and got into the back seat with her and tried to sexually assault her. She may have been inebriated, but she’s also 6’2″ and physically quite strong and was able to get away and go into a nearby convenience store while she called my neighbor to come pick her up (I was overseas on biz). I know you could argue that a taxi driver could have done the same (and I have a female friend who had similar experiences traveling in South America), but most cabs I ride in these days are equipped with video equipment.

Both taxi companies and the uber-lyft type rides for hire, need to look very closely at their screening process for getting people with integrity to drive for them. It seems a lot of taxi companies, though they been in the biz for a long time, have let themselves get dowdy, sloppy in their customer service, out of fashion…and generally left behind in the ride for hire business.

Uber and Lyft are the hip new thing, and so those services have a lot of people rooting for them, even though they’re not necessarily better overall at providing good drivers than are the taxi companies. Somehow, apparently Uber managed to find that this Chrissy Shoaff person, fit the companies’ criteria for a competent, person of integrity, to drive for them: How did that happen?

That’s the kind of question I’d imagine at least some Uber management personnel may be asking themselves. The company did damage control, promptly dumping Shoaff after she made a big public scene…but that’s not really enough. Much better to have some means in place to know in advance of hiring, if the person looks likely to be unstable and susceptible to emotional and physical outbursts, possibly of a violent nature, as this incident was.

I had a broadway cab that was turning around in my driveway take out my retaining wall. They were just as unhelpful in dealing with getting it fixed and the cab driver fled the scene. Cab companies are absolutely no better than UBER about accountablility.

What the rating system is for. Im a uber driver, and a cyclist, and i do uber pedal to help riders that have drank to much get home safe, and stillb e able to get their bike home as well. I was a fed ex driver for years, and in 15 years ive never had a ticket, ive never had a wreck, heck not even a parking ticket, and i have driven downtown almost every day of my life for those 15 years. Many of the cab drivers i meet are rude, throw shit at our cars, and try to run us off the road. They block us in places. Most have come to accept it. And that cab driver is still just a stranger that paid for a medalion, they did nothing special to earn it other than pay out the rectum for it. The bus driver your ride with is a stranger, the barista at starbucks is a stranger who made your drink and could of spit in it for all you know. If your so afraid of strangers, i suggest ordering stuff online 😉

You gotta be joking? The cab drivers in this town are beyond rude and do whatever pleases them. I can’t even believe that people are making a “big deal” about Uber saying that their drivers are not employees… Try having any difficulty with any driver of an established cab company any YOU WILL GET THE SAME RESPONSE FROM THE CAB CO. THAT UBER GIVES. I know, I had difficulties as a disabled person and every time their was a issue I was told that their drivers are “independent” and can accept or deny service to whom they please. I have NEVER had any difficulty with Uber as a disabled person, quite the contrary. Since both Uber and established co. drivers claim they are independent (supported in this by their companies) I’LL TAKE UBER EVERY TIME. First they are cheaper by half! Second, the drivers I have met are polite and very helpful; try asking an established cab driver to drive you, wait, and then drive you back. ONCE I WAS GOING TO PICK UL MY SCRIPS AT MY PHARMACY, REQUESTING A WAIT & RSTURN AND WAS TOLD BY THE DRIVER THAT IF I WAS “SICK” (he was referring to my disability) I SHOULD GO TO THE ER!!! Do I really have to go on with a third, forth, fifth reason? My dear, these drivers are veted in the same manner as a cab driver… Do you really know who the cab driver is? Does his company? Anyone can lie to get a job and cab driving is notorious for hiring anyone that can pass a commercial driving test…in this country that means just about anyone. It’s not like London where the drivers must go through about 2 yrs. of internship and memorize like every street, avenue and ally way in that vast vast city. There are going to be a bad apple or two but as for Uber, I say BRAVO to their quick PUBLIC response. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT A CAB CO. WOULD. PUBLICALLY MAKE ANY STATEMENT? Their customer service dept. barely answer the phone and NEVER returns promised calls. Right arm to Uber! As far as I can determine, they are putting extra cash in the hands of folks who can definetly use it. Who can live off an American paycheck? Driving for Uber shows initiative and a willingness to WORK through these difficult times. Take your “badged” driver all you want but please do not GENERALIZE, which we all know is an easy way out to any truthful real discussion.

those drivers are some of the worst on the roads from what I’ve seen. typically lost, driving erratically, typically new to the area, looking for whomever just contacted them. they’ll never get my business. I mean, who the hell ever thought it was good idea to take rides from strangers?

Thanks PJ, sorry you had to go through this. I hope we can find some way to get drivers under control that doesn’t cost a pair of $400 glasses and all this drama per each. How about some of those $300 fillable jersey barriers PBOT? Children need clear boundaries, especially if we’re going to let them drive cars.

I think it is about time that the legal wall separating Uber from its drivers is broken down so they can be held accountable for “employeing” psychos to interact with the public and careen down the road in death machines assalting pedestrians

“who is employed by Uber” should be “who drives for Uber” or something. Uber drivers are independent contractors, not employees, so saying that this woman was employed by Uber is not technically correct unless she has a role for the company other than as a driver.

She’s obviously unhinged & will likely have to replace PJ’s glasses. Instead of suing her for add’l $ to cover pain & suffering or to impose punitive costs (which would prob’ly be tough to recover), PJ might offer an idea to educate those like her for the judge to impose as a sentence.

How do you know she clearly saw him? Like I,said what she did is not right. I am curious because I see lots of people crossing streets between blocks, sometimes trying to beat traffic, just looking to complete the scenario.

she better also be charged with failure to yield to a pedestrian because that’s the charge that will stop her from driving for uber… any traffic citation will help cut down on her time behind the wheel…

Whether she is the kind of person that would drive despite her license being revoked, is a good question, one that ought to be considered with regards to anyone that has their license revoked.

For some crimes they commit, people can stay out of jail before trial and possible conviction, by posting bail…if the court thinks they’re not going to stick around and show up in court…nope…they get to stay in jail. In other words, they get to stay out of jail if it’s thought they be trusted to do what’s been ordered of them.

Similarly, though it would be an additional burden for society to bear, if people with suspended and revoked licenses aren’t willing to comply with orders made of them that they not drive, unless another more effective option can be devised, maybe they just need to be kept locked up until they’re willing to comply with the order not to drive.

I’m curious to know whether she knows that every intersection is a crosswalk. Actually, I’m curious to know what percentage of Oregon drivers know this, despite recent marketing campaigns. Far too many drivers don’t seem to know this basic law. I’ve seen drivers try to “show people a lesson” by accelerating at pedestrians in unmarked crosswalks and yelling at them for jaywalking. People like this need to have their licenses suspended and car impounded! It’s scary to think that she’ll be driving again in no time, and likely with even more of a vengeance.

Just a few days ago I was crossing Belmont at 28th and a driver saw me, sped up enormously, and passed me with only a few feet to spare. I flipped them off and shouted “crosswalk”. They screeched to about a block away and screamed back: “There is no crosswalk, bleep bleepity bleep”.

The cussing was not typical but the behavior was, sadly, very typical.

If I had to guess, I’d say you could round off the percentage of Oregon drivers who know what a crosswalk is to zero percent.

I’ve also had motorists speed up at me when I’m crossing in unmarked crosswalks. Then again, while it is slightly less common, I’ve had them do that when I’m in a raised, marked crosswalk.

I’m seeing more and more letters to the editor in my local rags where motorists express frustration that people cross the street in crosswalks. The seem to think it is horrible that motorists should be expected to slow down or stop for humans. Considering the lack of enforcement, I don’t see this getting better soon.

Wow, that’s bad. Drivers hardly ever stop for me and my 4-year-old when we’re crossing at that intersection to go to his preschool (maybe a 15% success rate?), but honking at a woman with a stroller? That’s low.

P.S. I just submitted a request to PBOT for a painted crosswalk at that intersection, both for my own benefit and because I see high school kids running across the street to the bus stop after school lets out, and I’m worried they’ll get hit. Maybe if we got a painted crosswalk there, drivers would behave a little better?

I’ve thought the same thing, devograd! I have a good view of that intersection and have watched everyone from elderly folks to parents pushing strollers to parents w/ toddlers (like you) to h.s. students scrambling across the street while speeding drivers ride RIGHT up on them, some never slowing at all (they figure they’ve got it timed right–so you’ll maybe only get clipped).

Thank you for submitting that request, and best wishes! It’s a good spot for a crosswalk. I see so many folks crossing there and it’s become a bit of a de facto major neighborhood intersection, what with all the cut-through traffic/Clinton avoiders. Have seen a few car collisions there, too.

HK–I know you were speaking to devograd but a platform would be great, though my normal speaking voice is a yodel, so it is usually heard.

Was riding my bike north on SE 12th the other day. Stopped (in the middle of the right lane) so a couple could cross the street at an intersection.

The cars coming up behind me didn’t stop. In fact, five or six cars passed me while I was sitting there, several close enough for me to touch them. These were cars spread out close to half a block apart.

In hindsight, I should probably be thankful that one of them didn’t run me over while I stood there for probably a minute, which felt like days.

To truly show its good intentions and help seperate itself from “bad” drivers we should push uber to introduce a helmet cam documented complaint system where reports of driver misbehaviour ( accompanied by video) would be sufficient to get motorist banned from driving for Uber , or LYFT. Since they are not “employees” no due process beyond this should be needed. My experience is those with the little Uber and Lyft stickers on the back window are among the most impatient and agressive drivers in the city and this flood of “speed for money” motorists is partially responsible for the recent increase in dangerous road conditions.

I wonder if this is the same Clarissa Kelley who left comments on the accused’s Facebook post saying “He can ride into oncoming traffic for all I care F**k that dude!!!”

You know, the same Clarissa Kelley whose LinkedIn profile lists her interests as “Human Rights” (ummmm…), and “the Environment) (DOUBLE ummmm… she apparently cares so much about the environment, she hates bikes!!).

Or the same Clarissa Kelley who states on said LinkedIn page – “My work objective is to be part of a team where I can show my integrity, knowledge, creativity, and positive attitude”.

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Why is someone with such an apparently very low level of self control, being allowed to operate a motor vehicle? How many people has she pulled this kind of stunt on since she’s been driving?

Was it lack of maturity that had her do this? I don’t like to make an issue of age, because immaturity can be present in a range of age groups…not just people in their teens or 20’s, 30’s for example. Maybe she has some axe to grind. Or likes to harass people for thrills. Who knows?

She sounds like a head case. People can and do have all sorts of issues they carry around with them in their daily routine. If they’re functional, meaning they can conduct themselves responsibly in typical day to day activities like getting up, feeding themselves, going to work, getting along with people reasonably well…fine, maybe they’re competent to drive.

If their trying to do those things has them hitting the ceiling, they’re probably not fit to drive a car, or ride a bike. Maybe, they should be supervised while walking across the street.

Whenever I drive my SUV about town (18-year-old CR-V) I feel I have much better visibility than when I drive my wife’s car. It’s a little more upright, and has very few blind spots, with large non-tinted windows. I also like the extra mobility when I take the kids skiing. That said, I wish I still had my Del Sol. 40 mpg easily, and much more compact.

Jonathan…I think you’re misinterpreting and over-reacting to the part of my comment(s) you’ve deleted. I posed a question as a statement, related to intelligence, I think any reasonable person would have upon seeing someone depicted in a mug shot. People naturally will wonder whether intelligence of people pictured, had something to do with the arrest of the person .

The parts of my comments you’ve deleted were definitely not made to insult, be unproductive, or mean to the person arrested, but to help readers question what possible reason Chrissy Shoaff my have had to do what she did.

Because in comments responding to mine some readers questioned the initial statement I posed, in followup comments to my initial one, I answered the question in the negative…in other words, that I didn’t think she was what some readers posting comments to your site, seem to have taken great delight in thinking she is. I think they were wrong to write what they did, and if I had been editor of this site, probably would have deleted theirs for pointedly callous, mean and superficial, far sooner than it happens they were.

I wish the best for Chrissy Shoaff, as I do anybody that’s in serious trouble, needs help, and shows some hope of being set back on the track of being a decent human being.

maus….I just want to add, that if ever you have a question about my intent in something I’ve written in a comment, or you’d like me to revise some part of what I’ve written,differently to have it be less susceptible to misinterpretation, I’m happy to answer as best I can, and possibly make changes. I can’t guarantee I’ll make changes, but will consider them as time allows.

Though I’m not a paying member of this site, this shouldn’t be too hard to do. You could maybe just post a note into the comment before releasing it from moderation. I’ll read your suggestions and requests, and respond and make changes as I feel I can, and then post them for moderation in a new comment nested below the earlier one. …thanks…ws

Woah, is Jon Isaacs of Uber the same Jon Isaacs who used to work for Portland Public Schools as their chief spokesperson? He has neatly and swiftly transitioned from “kids, the water is safe to drink!” to “the people who receive money from us, contract with passengers using our proprietary app, and who drive cars using our insignia are not our employees!”

This is likely to an unpopular opinion, but this person will get what she deserves through the courts. Her real name and those of her friends should not permanently be made public through a google-indexed website.

I happen to agree with you, but that’s not how it works in America. In other counties, the names of arestees are not published until a conviction. Here, the accused get their name dragged through the mud just for being arrested.

Uber claims various things in various lawsuits. In some, it claims its drivers are employees. In others, it claims they’re independent contractors.

In these cases, Uber consistently claims that they are not sending ads, but offers of employment, which don’t require written consent. That would make Uber an employer seeking workers…

So Uber is an employer when trying to wriggle away from unsolicited advertising laws, but not an employer when trying to wriggle away from labor laws.

A third type of court case argues that, if Uber’s drivers are independent contractors, the company is guilty of fixing prices among competitors, as all the contractors charge the same rate for rides, based on an algorithm managed by Uber.

Super story, Johnathan! Makes up for that awful road rage you posted a few days ago.

I have first hand experience of being a professional cab driver and “rideshare” Uber is a bloodsucking leach on society. They do nothing but skim 30% off the top for the privilege of connecting two dots. They take advantage of unfortunate suckers who can’t foresee the inordinate risk, liability and cost driving for them entails. But you will never hear this from a driver, they can’t talk about it for fear of reprisal.

Further, as this case perfectly illustrates, there is so little accountability or liability for the company. They simply cherry pick all the profit and leave the driver to pick up the tab. And when something like this happens, they get to wash their hands. It is like the worst of the corporate world mixed with good old fashioned laissez-faire libertarianism. If this lady was driving her car for the purposes of making money with Uber, then would it not follow that she was “employed” by the company? The way they twist words and meanings makes my head spin.

The bottom line is they try so hard to hide the fact that they are basically evil, prey upon desperate people and will stop at nothing until all competition is decimated. Then you will get to see what true “surge” pricing is.

That is spot-on, Rachel b. The confidence so many people seem to have now that they’re in any way qualified to teach others a lesson is both astounding and terrifying – and definitely spawn of the Internet echo chamber. I miss self doubt.

It’s sad and disturbing that more and more people have such anger that they seek easy outlets for it, like endangering someone’s life on the road. This needs to be legally stopped with stiff consequences or it will continue on a larger scale.

Per-mile, riding a bike is still statistically safer and you get some exercise while doing it. Although, riding in the back seat is supposed to be safer, but that might be one of those statistics where most people are riding in the front (because SOV) just like people who didn’t wreck their bike while not wearing helmets didn’t show up in the ER to get counted.

Make drivers who earn money driving be required to hold COMMERCIAL driver’s licenses.

As commercial drivers we are always pressured to go faster; same with bicycle couriers.

The difference with at least the truck freight industry is that the employer shares in the legal ramifications of a driver driving for them either as a direct employee or a contractor. If I get a speeding ticket it shows up on my record and my employer’s. We both have consequences for my theoretical bad driving thus motivating the employer to enforce safety standards.

Uber and similar ride sharing services DO fill an important niche HOWEVER they are avoiding the legal and economic overhead of ANY responsibility (road safety, wages, criminal screening) for the people that they employ under their brand’s name.

Make em fight on a level playing field with taxis and make the ride sharing companies have real skin in the game when someone driving for them is unsafe.

Here’s a link to a .org website that has details on special licenses required in Oregon, operators of different types of motor vehicles must have. Notice in the big blue box at the top of the page, ‘Pass your CDL written exam the first time with DMV Cheatsheets!’.

“…The difference with at least the truck freight industry is that the employer shares in the legal ramifications of a driver driving for them either as a direct employee or a contractor. If I get a speeding ticket it shows up on my record and my employer’s. …” qtzal

What you’re suggesting, sounds like something outside of requirements made of people seeking to acquire an Oregon CDL. More like something in Oregon law for regulating the trucking industry. Which some people likely are thinking that pseudo taxi outfits like uber and lyft should be subject to as well, or more thoroughly if they’re not already subject to that sort of thing.

When she actually was transporting a passenger, arranged by Uber, how does Chrissy Shoaff’s record show she performed her job and conducted herself as a driver? Good driver or bad? And if the former, how can the CDL testing requirements screen out from qualification, people that may be apt to go off the deep end when they’re driving on their own free time?

I’m not sure what Oregon currently has for laws that would allow it to refuse issuing a driver’s license to someone that can pass the driver’s tests, both the written, and the on the road test, but then once on the road on their own, their behavior behind the wheel is inclined to be very unsuitable for safe driving.

State laws can add but not subtract driver and employer accountability.

While common sense says that the rule set that applies to taxis is most appropriate it is also older and more byzantine. The CSA is newer and much more flexible in its potential application. Also it ensures that poor driving consequences are shared with the employer no matter what. This really forces the company in question to take driver safety very seriously.

And I lack even the least little bit of familiarity with the taxi industry that would have come from watching the tv show Taxi.

Yes they want to avoid all those responsibilities you mention but the biggest reason to hire ‘independent contractors’ instead of ’employees’ is the tax bill, which is roughly double for employees. (The independent contractor gets to pay that extra tax instead. When independent contractors fight to become employees as at FedEx they are fighting for many thousands of dollars per contractor.) Also when independent contractors are ‘let go’ or the company goes under or downsizes there is no cost in unemployment benefits. There are some interesting advantages to being an independent contractor too — it’s not all bad.

I think this is a story that should be reported by the Oregonian/Oregonlive but I did not see any reporting on this at all. In light of the high number of vehicle/pedestrian/bicycle incidents lately (not to mention the Uber connection) I think this story is more important and relevant than much of what they are reporting on.

In all likeleyhood she will walk, Just like the Saudi that killed the young lady a couple of weeks ago. The judge reduced bail and he was out in 20 minutes. Nickel to a hole in a doughnut he will be out of the country before midnight. At least the tax payers will not need to pay for his incarceration for the next 8-10 years.

There are some messed up people out there. Anyone bragging about attacking someone and destroying their glasses clearly falls into this category. I’m glad they caught her, but we all know that when things like this happens, the perpetrator almost always gets away.

I do sometimes wonder how some individuals seem to have extraordinary bad luck with crazies and so many near brushes with death when doing totally mundane things. No one deserves to be attacked, but I’m wondering his hand came in contact with the mirror as most people in fear for their safety would perform some sort of evasive move would that would make this type of contact unlikely.

Tom Hardy In all likeleyhood she will walk, Just like the Saudi that killed the young lady a couple of weeks ago. The judge reduced bail and he was out in 20 minutes. Nickel to a hole in a doughnut he will be out of the country before midnight. At least the tax payers will not need to pay for his incarceration for the next 8-10 years.Recommended 2

George Carlin was a comedian. Humor was his business, and as part of doing that, he could be cynical to get a laugh and wax a bit philosophically. I don’t think Carlin really considered the average person to be stupid…not in an overall sense. Smart people, even those of better than average intelligence, on occasion do stupid things. On a pathological level? Like it appears this Chrissy Shoaff has done?

I’m thinking it’s not stupidity that’s having her do what she did. There’s something else going on in her mind, and as I said earlier, I hope whatever it is, gets figured out before someone else is in a world of hurt far worse than what Paul Jeffery and his pals found themselves in, just trying to cross the street on foot.

Carlin was a great comedian. Very smart, very intelligent. Well suited to carry out thoughtful commentary on the human condition through humor, in some of the traditions of Mark Twain.

As a person who sometimes walks across a street, and often rides a bike, I admit I formed an opinion about this waaay before I got to “drives for Uber”. But the comments about appearance made me wince. Really? You actually don’t want to trust a person who looks good in a mugshot.

Well… Decent driver, above-average drunk driver Cali transplant, yes. Trust fund rich kid, not really. I used to think she was rich cuz her parents’ house in high school was in a ritzy neighborhood by a golf course, but that’s only cuz they were living beyond their means. They’re now separated and live comfortably within their means in different houses.”

The “above-average drunk driver” comment is so messed up, for so many reasons.

I think it’s pretty hard not to judge people by how they look, when that’s all you’ve got to go on. I think formation of the judgement is not avoidable; the important thing is what you do with that judgement.