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What are peeps views on this? Women a few doors down is pure chav and makes a bloody racket, obviously the rent is being paid for by the Council. Anyhow, she's got two girls of maybe 4 and 6 who she screams demands at all day - her voice carries 50m easily.

Today, shouts to 'get in' were ignored, resulting in 4 or 5 very audible blows to the child whilst still in the garden followed by much wailing.

These poor kids dont stand a chance do they, unless its stopped now they will be doing exactly the same thing
to their kids in 20 years time.

And OP in fairness, its not necessarily so that this behaviour is because she is on benefits and having her rent paid.
There are bad parents in all walks of life, however much they work, or dont, and however much money they have.

If you are at all worried i would call them now, better a concerned neighbour reports and nothing is found than the poor kids are beaten daily with no body bothering. I have smacked my kids on very rare occasions but its one short sharp smack on the botton or the hand not numerous blows it sounds very out of order to me.

If you do report her i wouldnt mention her being a chav or having everything paid for her it could make you sound like its a personal dislike of the woman more than concern for the welfare of the children although i can understand where you are coming from if she truely is that bad.

If you have any concerns you can always ring your duty office and ask a what if scenario, then they will give you advice without you having to give exact details then make the decision from there..
but in all honesty I would agree with the other posters, you were concerned enough to ask on here!
If that is what is going on outdoors what could be going on inside. Write down what you have seen and heard and keep a log of dates and times, so that you have it to hand for SS keep if factual.

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What are peeps views on this? Women a few doors down is pure chav and makes a bloody racket, obviously the rent is being paid for by the Council. Anyhow, she's got two girls of maybe 4 and 6 who she screams demands at all day - her voice carries 50m easily.

Today, shouts to 'get in' were ignored, resulting in 4 or 5 very audible blows to the child whilst still in the garden followed by much wailing.

To be fair the OP has made no reference to the fact that this was a regular occurrence,or that there is any reason to believe that the children are indeed "at risk".Although I choose not to physically discipline my own children,it is not against then law to use smacking as a form of discipline.

The OP has not indicated any other reasons as to why they would be concerned for the children's welfare - They have not mentioned seeing bruises on the children,do not say they are being neglected or have they witnessed seeing any form of physical violence toward the children.

Children do need protecting,but from reading the OP It appears that although the mother concerned may not have "ideal parenting skills" and maybe she chooses to shout at her kids Rather than use calm reasoning it does not necessarily mean that she is a candidate for a child protection conference.

To be fair the OP has made no reference to the fact that this was a regular occurrence,or that there is any reason to believe that the children are indeed "at risk".Although I choose not to physically discipline my own children,it is not against then law to use smacking as a form of discipline.

The OP has not indicated any other reasons as to why they would be concerned for the children's welfare - They have not mentioned seeing bruises on the children,do not say they are being neglected or have they witnessed seeing any form of physical violence toward the children.

Children do need protecting,but from reading the OP It appears that although the mother concerned may not have "ideal parenting skills" and maybe she chooses to shout at her kids Rather than use calm reasoning it does not necessarily mean that she is a candidate for a child protection conference.

better safe than sorry though....what if there is child abuse and she did nothing?? could anyone live with that on their conscience?/ I couldn't...if there isnt a case to answer then social services will take no action...yes the mum may be upset but it may help her think twice about lashing out at them again

better safe than sorry though....what if there is child abuse and she did nothing?? could anyone live with that on their conscience?/ I couldn't...if there isn't a case to answer then social services will take no action...yes the mum may be upset but it may help her think twice about lashing out at them again

I agree that "its better to be safe than sorry",but to be fair the original post could apply to half the country - If every instance of parents shouting at their kids or indeed smacking them was reported as potential child abuse SS would be visiting practically every household in the country.

the original post said "4 or 5 audible blows" to me thats not acceptable...and if half the country was doing that to their children then I would be glad if social services were to visit every one of them

Being a chav, receiving housing benefit and being noisy are all perfectly legal and say more about your own deficiencies than anyone else's.

If this is a real post and not an imaginary one, call social services. They'll want to know your name and address, to show that you aren't just making malicious allegations due to your own animosity towards this woman, and then they can spend their time investigating an alleged assault that wasn't actually witnessed by anyone, much less an unbiased person, when they could be intervening in a case where there is documented evidence of abuse or neglect.

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Being a chav, receiving housing benefit and being noisy are all perfectly legal and say more about your own deficiencies than anyone else's.

If this is a real post and not an imaginary one, call social services. They'll want to know your name and address, to show that you aren't just making malicious allegations due to your own animosity towards this woman, and then they can spend their time investigating an alleged assault that wasn't actually witnessed by anyone, much less an unbiased person, when they could be intervening in a case where there is documented evidence of abuse or neglect.

they wont want to know your name at all much less your address....as I said earlier, you can make an annonymous referral and it will be investigated in exactly the same way as a one where the person leaves their name

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