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07-31-2012 12:34 PM

hedge_fund

No matter where you get your shrimp, I would always quarantine them. I generally pour mine into a jar and scoop each shrimp one by one with a tiny net. It's not 100% perfect but I am on the lookout for scuds, planaria and other craziness. Sometimes I'll even put a few baby guppies with the new shrimp in whatever container I am housing them in....this ensures that they eat any craziness that might be in there so I don't scoop it into my tank. I am terrified of getting any surprises especially since my colony is flourishing.

07-31-2012 09:14 AM

acitydweller

This is why sns is sometimes a petridish of surprises... The extras you get sometimes isn't what you think. My scud colony came from plants that came with my shrimp. Pretty sure of it since the plants purchased normally go into my fish tanks.

07-31-2012 04:43 AM

Bananariot

Quote:

Originally Posted by randyl

The shrimps survive in the water they come in with, it can't be too bad, to me anyway. I don't try to do all the extras to get to 99% (it can never be 100%, you do want the shrimps in the tank, right?).

I cut the bag and have the water, shrimps and all into a small breeder box, turn the air flow to minimum (get like a drop every few seconds), then come back a few hours later to pour the whole thing in (sans the dirty stuff on the bottom). If I want to be safer, I might adjust the water flow to highest after a few hours and let that run for a few more hours, or even a day (yeah, sometimes I forget ;-)

Adding some ammonia or no2 (from the bag) into a tank should not affect much, as long as your tank is well cycled. Chances of having hydras or planarias hitchhike is pretty small considering the water is normally taken from the top of the tank. Bacteria will be mostly on/in the shrimps.

I lazily poured everything in during when I first started and boy oh boy I still have the tank that's infested with everything.

The pests usually come from the plants that are put into the bag for the shrimps to hold on to.

I wouldn't recommend pouring everything in the bag. Copepods and other micro organisms are tiny and you only need just one. I would net the shrimp and move them over....my infection rate has been nearly eliminated after doing this.

Bottom line for best survivability: drip method IME.
Take some time to acclimate slowly, it'll pay off in the long run.

07-31-2012 04:35 AM

randyl

The shrimps survive in the water they come in with, it can't be too bad, to me anyway. I don't try to do all the extras to get to 99% (it can never be 100%, you do want the shrimps in the tank, right?).

I cut the bag and have the water, shrimps and all into a small breeder box, turn the air flow to minimum (get like a drop every few seconds), then come back a few hours later to pour the whole thing in (sans the dirty stuff on the bottom). If I want to be safer, I might adjust the water flow to highest after a few hours and let that run for a few more hours, or even a day (yeah, sometimes I forget ;-)

Adding some ammonia or no2 (from the bag) into a tank should not affect much, as long as your tank is well cycled. Chances of having hydras or planarias hitchhike is pretty small considering the water is normally taken from the top of the tank. Bacteria will be mostly on/in the shrimps.

07-30-2012 09:38 PM

somewhatshocked

To quarantine, you'd need to add the shrimp to a tank without any of the water they originally were shipped with. Otherwise you're not actually putting anything in quarantine.

07-30-2012 09:27 PM

lipadj46

Quote:

Originally Posted by somewhatshocked

While this may work for you, I hope the OP doesn't take this line.

You run the risk of introducing things to your tank that you otherwise wouldn't. From nitrogenous waste to planaria.

You are assuming no QT?

07-30-2012 08:26 PM

somewhatshocked

That's a good point about things thriving in your tank that may not thrive in another. Something all of us should keep in mind when acclimating.

Even in the rare times when I do the plop & drop (only occasionally and only between my own tanks), I always put critters in a clear container so I can observe before transfer. Helps to get a look at what's tagging along.

Waste is another issue entirely.

07-30-2012 08:17 PM

hedge_fund

Quote:

Originally Posted by somewhatshocked

While this may work for you, I hope the OP doesn't take this line.

You run the risk of introducing things to your tank that you otherwise wouldn't. From nitrogenous waste to planaria.

Yup. Sometimes what is not present in someone's tank can flourish in another just because the conditions are right.

Luckily, he purchased the shrimp from me and I do not have anything crazy like planaria.

You run the risk of introducing things to your tank that you otherwise wouldn't. From nitrogenous waste to planaria.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lipadj46

easy way to "drip" acclimate is to poke some pin holes in the breather bag then float them for a couple hours. I've done this with all my taiwan bees.

07-30-2012 07:52 PM

lipadj46

easy way to "drip" acclimate is to poke some pin holes in the breather bag then float them for a couple hours. I've done this with all my taiwan bees.

07-30-2012 07:46 PM

GeToChKn

Quote:

Originally Posted by mordalphus

It's the opposite of that, because of osmotic pressure.

Knew it was one water to the other was easier on the shrimp, just didn't remember what way. lol.

07-30-2012 07:42 PM

mordalphus

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeToChKn

What do mean trick? There is no standard. Some people do like 12 hour acclimation, some just open the bag and drop in (drop and plop method). I think I remember reading that if they are coming from a very high TDS/GH water into a lower one, they can take that faster and easier than going from a low TDS/GH water into a higher one, but I can't remember where I read that or if it's true.

It's the opposite of that, because of osmotic pressure.

07-30-2012 07:38 PM

hedge_fund

Quote:

Originally Posted by acitydweller

connect the destination tank to the shrimp container using an airline hose attached with an airline valve.

The higher situated tank should be connected to the lower situated container housing the new shrimp.

Adjust the valve to allow a drip flow to the container.

Use a binder clip to hold the airline hose stationary.

voila!

If you join us on our upcoming planted tank meet in NY, we can show you were to get the valve for $.50

Or you can just bend the hose slightly and put a rubber band on it adjusting the tension until it drips slowly. Both ways will work.

07-30-2012 07:26 PM

acitydweller

connect the destination tank to the shrimp container using an airline hose attached with an airline valve.

The higher situated tank should be connected to the lower situated container housing the new shrimp.

Adjust the valve to allow a drip flow to the container.

Use a binder clip to hold the airline hose stationary.

voila!

If you join us on our upcoming planted tank meet in NY, we can show you were to get the valve for $.50

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