Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced. : gamernewshttp://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/News about video gameshttp://www.reddit.com/B7Vf6SzrKySj-JEW.pngProject Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced. : gamernewshttp://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/Sun, 16 Sep 2012 04:36:03 -0700<table> <tr><td> <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/"><img src="http://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/2BGmKFaYb0RJ6In0.jpg" alt="Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced." title="Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced." /></a> </td><td> submitted by <a href="http://www.reddit.com/user/S14Vine"> S14Vine </a> <br/> <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/posts/309364?ref=activity">[link]</a> <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/">[84 comments]</a> </td></tr></table>Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xf6rgravitycore on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xf6r2012-09-16T07:23:09.508487-07:00Kickstarter is so great for allowing companies to do stuff like this. Finally, developers can make exactly what they want and don't have to deal with the BS of publishers. Can't wait for this!http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xg58bigp3rm on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xg582012-09-16T07:26:08.922745-07:00Maybe the EAs and the Activisions of the world will die a slow painful death.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z9h3TenNeon on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z9h32012-09-16T09:57:37.864929-07:00As nice as suffering is, *fast* and painful would be better overall.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c690353Fyrus on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6903532012-09-16T10:56:21.096879-07:00Except for that would probably cause a financial collapse of the gaming industry, and nobody would bail it out.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c690n3sInfernoZeus on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c690n3s2012-09-16T11:34:41.624179-07:00Except the users would, via Kickstarter. It might be as financially large as it is now, but at least we'd get exactly the games we want, rather than those publishers think we want.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692kv5Commisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692kv52012-09-16T13:47:03.639096-07:00no, it would turn into the ANIME industry. Nothing but fan-service and ZERO true innovation.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695loaMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695loa2012-09-16T17:20:13.507428-07:00I'm confused - are you saying that patronage would result in *less* innovation than a publisher model?http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69ae4vCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69ae4v2012-09-16T22:32:01.356893-07:00yes. People would be pretty unwilling to test out new ideas with no-names behind them. Making quality games still isn't cheap or easy.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69agaeMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69agae2012-09-16T22:37:26.560781-07:00Aren't all the innovative games that have been funded through Kickstarter evidence against that? Castle Story, Guns of Icarus Online, and Republique are all wildly different from the usual AAA action fests we see. Investors motivated by an interest in a return on investment strike me as far less willing to take risks than micropatrons, especially as individual investors kick in far more than most micropatrons. I'm not seeing a whole lot of innovation from publishers right now, at least far less than I'm seeing from Kickstarter.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69ait9Commisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69ait92012-09-16T22:43:53.400008-07:00those are so few. Versus &quot;Hi, we here at obsidian want to make a game that MAY have been innovative 12 YEARS ago.&quot; Or &quot;High, I'm Tim Schaefer, I want to make another point and click adventure, just like I did in the 1990s.&quot; Or even &quot;Hi, I'm Brian Fargo. Screw new IP, lets make another sequel.&quot; not that any of those games are bad, just that they could be SO MUCH MORE.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c699grtKnowltey on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c699grt2012-09-16T21:16:31.280671-07:00There's an anime industry left?http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69adhiCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69adhi2012-09-16T22:30:23.417014-07:00yes, it subsists on Fanservice cash cows and recycled plot lines. (see High School of the Dead and ANY Gundam series after the first) There are a FEW good studios left, but they are few and far between.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69aivgKnowltey on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69aivg2012-09-16T22:44:04.526629-07:00Yeah, I'll just keep to my 3x3 Eyes thank you very much.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69554a[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69554a2012-09-16T16:48:04.445101-07:00[deleted]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69aebjCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69aebj2012-09-16T22:32:22.943902-07:00IDK, People would be pretty unwilling to test out new ideas with no-names behind them. Making quality games still isn't cheap or easy.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6969uzlonewolf80 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6969uz2012-09-16T18:03:57.202072-07:00I find anime to have more diversity than the current game industry.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69adtfCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69adtf2012-09-16T22:31:11.523902-07:00the sheer amount of cheap, no talent fanservice and plot cloning is, to me, astounding.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69eljblonewolf80 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69eljb2012-09-17T07:44:03.559133-07:00The same case can be made about the current gaming industry and their knack of making games that fulfill instant gratification and big explosions, the usage of color filters, etc.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69boqsTlingit_Raven on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69boqs2012-09-17T01:01:30.794642-07:00Yes, because gamers are nothing if not giving and mature. See: all the piracy in the gaming community and whining over literally anything.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69bop1koagad on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69bop12012-09-17T01:01:18.826952-07:00I guess the kickstarter formula is mainly a good thing, but I hope that the pressure from publishers isn't too important for the developers to actually finalize their products. On the other hand, internet fan rage isn't very pleasant to deal with either. Maybe that will be enough pressure.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xjztMachismo01 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xjzt2012-09-16T07:37:10.314948-07:00I feel terrible that I often fund less than the full retail price for a copy of the game (20-30 bucks in this case). Although I should pay less since I am accepting more risk on the end product. I don't know if it will be any good much like any investment.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xmmvDomooo on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xmmv2012-09-16T07:44:29.188309-07:00At the same time though you aren't having to deal with some publisher possibly screwing the developer out of money. See New Vegas.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xx8cMachismo01 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xx8c2012-09-16T08:11:18.499864-07:00Well they aren't. I as a consumer suffer risk for this type of funding. They suffer risks for that New Vegas deal.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68y5jrDomooo on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68y5jr2012-09-16T08:31:01.053935-07:00I was just saying I wouldn't feel bad that you aren't paying the normal full retail price for the game because of those reasons.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c696b61ShadyBiz on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c696b612012-09-16T18:06:20.260692-07:00The real possibility is that it could be worse. I don't think we have seen the real face of the kickstarter funding games just yet. At least with a publisher they have an interest in getting the game shipped so they can get money back but with this model if it just falls over there's not much stopping them from just disbanding the project. That also raises other questions. What if they decided the format / setting / gameplay sucked and wanted to change or even cancel it (as happens regularly in game development)? What sort of legal recourse would the people actually funding the kickstarter have if they just took the money and said 'we tried it and it doesn't work'. Interesting stuff.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c698rilDomooo on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c698ril2012-09-16T20:38:10.250852-07:00I think this has already happened but I'm sure it could turn into a problem later. It might eventually boil down to the only companies that can get funding are only ones that are already well known as it is which is somewhat interesting. Hopefully nothing really bad ever happens.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yl00Off126 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yl002012-09-16T09:06:12.239445-07:00Its not like they were forced into the deal. It was a very poor decision for whoever accepted it. A subjective rating on metacritic doesn't mean anything, the only thing that should have mattered to either the devs or publishers is sales.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695jqrMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695jqr2012-09-16T17:16:37.635659-07:00You realize that Obsidian isn't exactly overflowing with development deals? They had to lay off a bunch of staff when a game for Microsoft went south. So I doubt they seriously had the option to pass on New Vegas.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ysg3Domooo on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ysg32012-09-16T09:22:11.897545-07:00I agree, definitely a bad move.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69atfhMegaKEK on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69atfh2012-09-16T23:13:14.266410-07:00Kickstarter does take a ~~significant~~ 5% cut though.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69b3atDomooo on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69b3at2012-09-16T23:42:48.549063-07:00Ah, I wasn't aware of that.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ycfp[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ycfp2012-09-16T08:46:57.057326-07:00I don't mind because they don't mind. Your early money helps them make a better game which improves their chances of making more money later. Without the early funding they might not be able to make the game at all or add as much to it and would end up earning much less in the future.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6903t5rnicoll on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6903t52012-09-16T10:57:39.731460-07:00There's also a risk that you simply won't get anything back, that the developer will go bankrupt instead. Not that I think that will happen here, but there are other projects I've backed and had to seriously balance the risk that it'll fold rather than delivering anything.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691a7z[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691a7z2012-09-16T12:20:16.314638-07:00[deleted]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69cisbGringos on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69cisb2012-09-17T03:42:14.285481-07:00Think of the future value of your money. Project Eternity is supposed to come out in 2014, until that point in time they can invest your 20-30 bucks and harvest interest. They also avoid a 2 year inflation by letting you pay now instead of later (assuming they will not adjust the 2014 retail price).http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69d0xxMachismo01 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69d0xx2012-09-17T05:07:09.076571-07:00Good point. More than just risk but inflation will play a role.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c690k5iEvermist on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c690k5i2012-09-16T11:29:01.675698-07:00$10,000 or more 2 backers... wowhttp://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691itmsaskpirate420 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691itm2012-09-16T12:36:21.202417-07:00I really wish I could have afforded that one, playing a pen and paper rpg adventure with the guys who wrote the Baldur's Gate games would be amazing.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691pr5Daibakuha on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691pr52012-09-16T12:49:08.728927-07:00I don't think it's in Obsidian's power to actually promise that. Considering the guys who made Baldur's Gate still work for Bioware.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691wcksaskpirate420 on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691wck2012-09-16T13:01:19.921644-07:00Huh, my mistake. I just looked up the guys who are making this game, and none of them actually worked on Baldur's Gate. Although they did all work on other games that I really loved from that same generation of games (Planescape, Icewind dale, fallout), so I still wish I could play a game with them.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c7m0[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c7m02012-09-17T02:37:30.292396-07:00Actually, most if not all of them have left Bioware. Something to do with being forced to work on yearly-release pieces of shit.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69d0yyDaibakuha on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69d0yy2012-09-17T05:07:17.876446-07:00The lead developers behind Baldur's Gate still work for Bioware...http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xz25[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68xz252012-09-16T08:15:46.188765-07:00It seems fairly obvious that they're planning on building the 2.2 million game and are cutting it back artificially to make it appear as though there are stretch goals. Five classes and five party NPCs in the stock game? I bloody well hope not.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yhspThe_Dirty_Carl on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yhsp2012-09-16T08:59:08.957371-07:00I agree, especially the Player House at 2.0 million. That's a pretty big design decision that would change a lot of things. It seems like something that would need to have been decided before this stage, even. Although, I suspect it's less, &quot;we need to make up some stretch goals to get get more money from people,&quot; and more, &quot;what can we cut if we can't get the full budget.&quot;http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ynx0[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68ynx02012-09-16T09:12:24.991197-07:00Yeah. I assume they're chipping in a fair amount themselves, even 2 million is almost nothing in game development - consider how many staff they have in the video, you couldn't get close to paying all those salaries for 2 years with that much money. That being said, we shouldn't expect miracles. AAA games can cost up to $100 million to develop, and I don't think they have anything like that to play with.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6955xd[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6955xd2012-09-16T16:49:39.701761-07:00[deleted]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c696stngizza on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c696stn2012-09-16T18:38:40.811377-07:00Very few AAA costs nearly that much. Most hover around $30-50m. A game like this using an isometric view and possibly little to no voice acting would be much cheaper.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695iy4Mimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695iy42012-09-16T17:15:06.013952-07:00They're using their own in-house engine and can forgo marketing, which seriously chips back the cost of the endeavor. Also, the size of the team is dependent on the amount of funding. If inXile is making Wasteland 2 for 2.8 million, I wouldn't be surprised if Obsidian could make theirs for 1.1http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692lckCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692lck2012-09-16T13:47:55.828649-07:00mmm, I believe Battlefield 3 cost 30 million or so.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c6sl[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c6sl2012-09-17T02:32:52.123608-07:00Because a cross-platform multiplayer shooter at the cutting edge of graphics is comparable to this at all. Right.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69fc77Commisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69fc772012-09-17T08:36:05.959602-07:00yes. It demonstrates the development costs of modern AAA games.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yxwxPylons on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68yxwx2012-09-16T09:33:38.307006-07:00&gt; Five classes and five party NPCs in the stock game? I bloody well hope not. Why not? It's not about how many there are, it's about how well written they are.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z430[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z4302012-09-16T09:46:34.503624-07:00Well, if it's a 6-person party, only one selection of NPCs hurts replayability and limits storytelling options (you couldn't have [NPC1] try and [verb] [NPC2], for instance, if there was no one to replace him with).http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z588Pylons on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68z5882012-09-16T09:48:51.257063-07:00I don't think they mean that it's a six person party - I think it's more of a four or three person party with five different NPCs you can recruit in the stock game.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zctnmemnos on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zctn2012-09-16T10:04:22.124158-07:00In the update video there are two figures that look like party formations drawn on the white board that look exactly like the ones from Baldur's Gate. They are six unit formations.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zdbjPylons on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zdbj2012-09-16T10:05:20.296235-07:00Maybe that's just one of the ideas they're playing around with?http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zdod[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zdod2012-09-16T10:06:03.528889-07:00six is still too few imo. The more options, the better.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695lbkkickit on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695lbk2012-09-16T17:19:35.071068-07:00Fucking spoilershttp://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695yfr[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695yfr2012-09-16T17:43:31.769177-07:00Haha, sorry, I edited it. The game did come out in 1998 and it's one of the first interactions when you have those two in the party, but my bad.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692niaHINDBRAIN on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692nia2012-09-16T13:51:55.489983-07:00MotB didn't have many companions at all. Planescape was pretty limited too.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694qn8Versipellis on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694qn82012-09-16T16:19:31.416264-07:00It really isn't a bad thing at all, so long as the characters are well-written. None of the characters in Planescape were particularly unappealing.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zrlgprules on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68zrlg2012-09-16T10:33:35.582861-07:00It seems like it, although it is hard to be 100% sure. I really hope that what you described isn't made a habit by some of these developers on KS. So far stretch goals have been pretty awesome.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695lf2Mimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695lf22012-09-16T17:19:46.446261-07:00From what I've read, they instead designed the initial concept in a very modular way. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was best practice in general considering how game development usually goes in the industry. Look at all the additional stuff that was meant to be in KOTOR II and F: NV which was cut.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692l1pCommisar on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c692l1p2012-09-16T13:47:22.284409-07:00and only 3 races. Are you kidding me???http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6936g8Versipellis on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6936g82012-09-16T14:28:24.179279-07:00Ah, so I guess this is what became of Chris' desire to make a Planescape sequel? I'm glad to see them doing something old-fashioned, even if it is set in a new world. Here's hoping that it's a worthy successor!http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69bmmcZushii on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69bmmc2012-09-17T00:52:13.603805-07:00They said absolutely nothing about the gameplay, no screenshots, no concept art. Nothing. They just said, how awesome it will be to because they are Obsidian and they made some games. I know it probably will be good, but they can only do this like this because they are Obsidian.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68wb6jdrainX on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c68wb6j2012-09-16T04:39:04.655642-07:00Come join the subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternityhttp://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694qrislothzen on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694qri2012-09-16T16:19:46.318007-07:00I'm pinching myself. Wasteland 2, Shadowrun Returns and now this?http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6934e4nawoanor on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6934e42012-09-16T14:24:22.416396-07:00Stretch Goal 11: The game isn't a buggy, unfinished piece of shit.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69409idarkfate on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69409i2012-09-16T15:27:51.598974-07:00They're giving themselves two years to develop this. I don't think it will ever be like any AAA title since those cost upwards of $30 million+ to develop. I still think it will be fun, and for $25 that ain't bad.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6957rajack_skellington on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c6957ra2012-09-16T16:53:17.519354-07:00Agreed. I want them to approach this more like an older game that cost much less to produce. I'm not worried about AAA games. I've seen very small games do very well (Trine comes to mind, among others). You can have a polished game and have it be built on a smaller budget. So I'm hopeful that in 2 years they can get this right. Of course, they *are* the people who built Arcanum -- the most roleplay-friendly, buggy, fantasy game ever. Oh, didn't they also write ToEE? That thing was so buggy the fans had to issue patches. Hmm. Now I'm worried.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695km9Mimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695km92012-09-16T17:18:17.419061-07:00Publishers do QA.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695n3cjack_skellington on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695n3c2012-09-16T17:22:48.441339-07:00Right. And in this case, there is NO publisher. I'm not sure, given their track record, how great they will be at doing this themselves. But, I paid in. I'll do my damnedest to love it.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695pdrMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695pdr2012-09-16T17:26:58.026216-07:00My point is, they have no track record of QA. If you watch some of Brian Fargo's speeches, he makes the interesting point that bugs started to multiply in games when developers stopped doing their own in-house QA, as the feedback cycle became more bureaucratized and more staggered.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695slljack_skellington on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695sll2012-09-16T17:32:46.848934-07:00Right. Hence, my concern. NO track record.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695tpyMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695tpy2012-09-16T17:34:48.371206-07:00Ah, that's more clear. Sorry about misunderstanding you.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c7ta[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69c7ta2012-09-17T02:38:44.473795-07:00ToEE and Arcanum were done by Troika.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69fte6jack_skellington on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69fte62012-09-17T09:08:38.377278-07:00Correct. And those are the people doing this Kickstarter. If you're confused, note that the Kickstarter video itself touts their pedigree, including employees who built ToEE.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69gckx[deleted] on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69gckx2012-09-17T09:43:52.927663-07:00No, the only member of Troika currently at Obsidian is Tim Cain. A cursory google search would have revealed this fact to you.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69oi8fjack_skellington on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c69oi8f2012-09-17T18:13:32.208305-07:00How does that refute anything? That's exactly my point.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691rucEngival on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c691ruc2012-09-16T12:53:02.228672-07:00Nice that the $20 game is sold out. Good incentive to just wait and see what the final product looks like before buying.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694yqvrnicoll on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c694yqv2012-09-16T16:35:28.733328-07:00You realise there's a $25 version, and the final release will probably be $40-50?http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c699qxpovinophile on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c699qxp2012-09-16T21:37:50.855987-07:00And then I'll buy it for $7.50 during the following Steam sale after its release and never play it.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695ab2gravitycore on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695ab22012-09-16T16:58:18.901865-07:00You're missing the point of funding a start-up project by &quot;waiting and seeing.&quot; The idea behind Kickstarter is you fund the idea that these guys could make something, and have FAITH that the game they make is worth the money you invested. You can't buy a cheap version later, because then you'll be a normal consumer buying the finished game, not an investor.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695kgrMimirs on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695kgr2012-09-16T17:17:59.571464-07:00Nitpick: You're not an investor, you're a patron. A micro-patron, specifically.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695mvafuZZe on Project Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment is funded in under two days!, some new stretch goals announced.http://www.reddit.com/r/gamernews/comments/zyukh/project_eternity_by_obsidian_entertainment_is/c695mva2012-09-16T17:22:22.868857-07:00I'd wouldn't use the term &quot;Faith&quot; here, these people have proven track records for making awesome games, I think &quot;trust&quot; is a little more apt.