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Cosmo, I would like to extend a cordial invitation for you to join me on www.hkcradio.com on my show the Voice of the Pacific, as I am sure a lot of my listeners would absolutely love to hear what you have to say, and I am sure that you would relish the opportunity to present your ideas and far ranging theories to a receptive and willing audience.

Sorry, you'll have to either summarize or provide a link to a description. I don't plan on listening to an hour of this woman's speculations about what she thinks. From what she is saying, there is no evidence, just her own speculation. She can have a conspiracy theory if she wants, but without evidence, I see no reason to give it any credence.

I presented this as a theory. You people are the ones who are being dogmatic. Listen to the radio program and if you hear something implausible, explain why it's implausible. You people are the ones who seem unwilling to discuss it. All you do is spout empty rhetoric and invective which doesn't impress thinking people. Seriously, if this were a debating hall, the audience would be roaring with laughter at you people right now.

Your references to all of us here as "you people" are just more evidence of your arrogance. Look up Paranoid schizophrenic and gullible fool next time you try to "educate" us ignore-ramouses.

Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.C. S. LewisDo not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:Ayn Rand

She can have a conspiracy theory if she wants, but without evidence, I see no reason to give it any credence.

I'm not in a position to be able to verify what she says. If those things she said happened really happened, serious consideration must be given to the theory that the Manson killings were a government black op.

Whether they were a black op or not, people were led to believe that Manson represented the counter-culture. He had spent most of his life in prison and was not part of the counter-culture--he was mentally sick.

Those killings were a boon to the government as it wanted to discredit non-conformists. If they weren't a government black op, the government took advantage of the oportunity to discredit the counter-culture and falsely associated Manson with the counter-culture.

Also, if your argument is "Our government would never do such a thing.", you are dead wrong.

The CIA trains torturers and death squad members.http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/Torture_RS.html
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In the late 1960s, Dan Mitrione, an employee of the US Office of Public Safety (part of the Agency for Intemational Development), which trained and armed foreign police forces, was stationed in Montevideo, Uruguay. Torturing political prisoners in Uruguay had existed before Mitrione's arrival. However, in a surprising interview given to a leading Brazilian newspaper, Jo~nal do Brasil in 1970, the former Uruguayan Chief of Police Intelligence, Alejandro Otero, declared that US advisers, and Mitrione in particular, had instituted torture as a more routine measure; to the means of inflicting pain, they had added scientific refinement; and to that a psychology to create despair, such as playing a tape in the next room of women and children screaming and telling the prisoner that it was his family being tortured.
The newspaper interview greatly upset American officials in South America and Washington. The director of OPS in Washington tried to explain it all away by asserting: "The three Brazilian reporters in Montevideo all denied filing that story. We found out later that it was slipped into the paper by someone in the composing room at the Jornal do Brasil."
Mitrione built a soundproofed room in the cellar of his house in Montevideo, in which he assembled Uruguayan police officers to observe a demonstration of torture techniques. Four beggars were rounded up to be the subjects upon whom Mitrione demonstrated the effects of different voltages on different parts of the body. The four of them died.
"The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," was Mitrione's motto.
"When you get what you want, and I always get it," he said, "it may be good to prolong the session a little to apply another softening-up Not to extract information now, but only as a political measure, to create a healthy fear of meddling in subversive activities."
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