Effectively means that when you go into the game any ocukers will be in here

Gameplay is similar to HoN but no final hit mechanics - although final hit seemed to appy to gold - need to check more But you can't steal a kill from your opponent. The final hit is a critical part of HoN but moves it more to hard core gameplay. Also again with a nod towards the slightly less hard core heritage it has a tutorial and ai opponents you can test against.

If Server Says Unavailable and People are playing in gameGo into options on that screen, save and that causes it to retry

League of Legends is free - however then you are restricted to certain heroes. See below. You can unlock heroes with ingame cash gained from playing or purchase with cash or buy a collectors pack which allows 20 set heroes to be unlocked. However you can play the game and unlock everything without putting down any money

A typical DG game is 30 to 45 minutes (yesterday our team steamed the other side in 16!), if you manage to play any computer game without taking that amount of time out you're doing well Longest game I have ever played was 52 minutes. Game start from the car crash which was an hour to get a game going is now typically minutes.

However I would agree the difference between an MP and an SP is in an SP you can leave at the drop of a hat in MP you really are letting your side down and in DG you're most likely going to result in them loosing

I can't really get into SP games, I just love the randomness that MP can bring (except the trash talk) - although Sword of the Stars and the Witcher I would agree are exceptions to this as they are very nice even in SP.

There's DotA... maybe i'll try if this runs on my laptop. I understand it's some mod for Warcraft III. I don't know if you need Warcraft III Reign of Chaos or Frozen Throne... I'll try to run it with my Reign of Chaos and see if it works.

ok, done - i bought Frozen Throne (in Poland it's just $5.3, Reign of Chaos is 4.3$ ). Now i'll try this whole DotA and see if it's worth my time .LOL - i bought two games just for mod/map running on them, and not the games themselves

I always think of S2 games as one of the devs who almost want to get to the gamers level - last facebook comment doesn't lessen this

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Heroes of Newerth Just so all the fans know, we will send information about redeeming for your beta key via facebook fan messaging tomorrow. That means that anyone who gets in as a fan in the next 12 hours or so will get a beta key as well. Again, thanks for the support and look forward to some great gaming this weekend!

OK i'm in as talsworthy. The NDA allows for posting of comments just no video or screenshots. OK where to start -

The lobby is an absolute dream, if Brad W is looking to implement better friend support etc he just needs to look at what these guys have done, very quick, clear to see which friends are playing, what game they are in etc. Options to setup Noob only games, pro only etc. It just all makes sense Nice touches like comment after a game, when you disconnect you can reconnect it just is what the DG interface should have been.

Gameplay is mind blowing, maps are huge and at this point very confusing, but its going to be worth persevering I think it has a lot of potential. So if you haven't yet get that facebook fan in and for next 30 or so hours the beta is open entry to all.

I played a couple of games this afternoon. I would suggest when playing at the moment either join a game that says Noob's only or host one and make it clear. That way when you are rubbish people don't moan at you. Was on a winning team on one and a loosing on the other. Still loads to learn

at last - even though i was too late to get my key for HoN (vacations) i got one today from somebody else . So i'll try this game tonight. If anyone is going to play (and give me some begginer tips ) i will be available in the evening (EU time).

I'll be on tonight from your time 10PM. Happy to play hon. If we can get others in here that would be even better. Re playing the game it is level based and you can play a noob only game however as stats have been reset it doesn't work that well. The best way is to label the game appropriately. Also join channel manner if it is there. You can also start a game where you are the only heroe to experiment. Creeps are more powerful in this game.

I'll be on tonight from your time 10PM. Happy to play hon. If we can get others in here that would be even better. Re playing the game it is level based and you can play a noob only game however as stats have been reset it doesn't work that well. The best way is to label the game appropriately. Also join channel manner if it is there. You can also start a game where you are the only heroe to experiment. Creeps are more powerful in this game.