Meanwhile, In Syria

This is what we all wanted right? Those at the start of the thread claiming the Arab Spring had long been hijacked by Islamic Extremists were just sympathisers of Dictatorship surely? This is why we gave millions in support right? Free Syria, yay for democracy.

After Iraq and Afghanistan we should have never let our governments meddle in foreign affairs without absolute scrutiny.

Then Libya happened. Sure, their country is now without any real infrastructure, torn by sectarian conflict and partly run by Islamic extremists and one of the most prosperous nations in the region has been bombed back to last century. But we got Gaddafi! Democracy, remember?

And Syria, poor Syria. Those poor innocent men flying Al Qaeda flags and posting videos of themselves with pigs blood all over their face, executing police men in broad daylight, kidnapping and torturing public workers and journalists. Well we just had to help them be free from a secular Syria.

First we denied it, then we said we would give them first aid, but then we were giving them radios and satellite imagery, then it was full logistical support and now the evidence for weapons paid for by the Americans are flooding across the border into the hands of extremists (the BBC doesn't even hide that fact any more and calls them their real names).

And now the protests in Iran have started, just in time. The economic sanctions placed on them in response to a nuclear program that there is no evidence for, is starting to finally ruin their economy and the livelihoods of millions of innocent people.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and the rest of the Sunni Dictatorships continue the systematic torture and executions of thousands as they always have done and the world gives them a reassuring smile and a wink and turns their eyes away. They play by the rules you see, they can be bought off. Those that can't, those that dare challenge Western imperialism will learn the hard way.

Free Syria, three cheers for democracy and the Nobel peace prize laureate led US.

I hope for once the the larger conspiracy does not work, and the perpetrators get bitten hard.

There's no conspiracy. It's greedy people scratching other greedy people's backs, nothing more. Big Oil wins, the Military Industrial Complex wins, Politicians win (Hey our country is a mess sure, but what about the terrorists?? And the Iranian nukes??). The only people that lose are the middle and working class who pay through the noses to have the middle and working classes in another continent wiped out.

Yes there was cross border fire earlier on, whoever this was got pasted the Turks use the German fire detection radar IIRC. So they will have shelled the origination point of the fire whoever it may have been.