The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

The Cardasians were meant to be an equal match for the federation. Militarily wise. They weren't evil, but sinister.

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

I think DS9 disagrees with you.

I think DS9 showed a decent variety of facets to the Cardassians. Yes, they were the go-to enemy, but they were displayed as more than a monolithic monster race, like how the Borg usually were. The Cardassians had scientists, imperfect adjudicators, refugees from their modern government (Garak), half-breeds seeking acceptance where they could (Dukat's half-Bajoran daughter), and leaders who chose to rise up against their government. While they could have done a better job, they didn't just let it be all Cardassian captains, admirals, and soldiers.

I love Star Trek, the entire franchise, but I am sick of the angry, vengeful bad guy from space. Stick to the original script: space is magnificent and deadly--we should want to explore it but there will be deaths.

Star Trek should be about big deadly creatures, big deadly suns, big deadly armadas, and big deadly anomalies. That is the fun version of space I choose to dream in.

The Romulans were interesting back when they were pseudo Romans, not so much when they became North Koreans (which is what every non-federation enemy seems to devolve to).

The borg are fun because they were everything the federation wanted to be but didn't have the balls to create. A perfect multicultural one-ness with no internal strife or desire for material things. Peak social efficiency.It might have been more fun if they were played up as an ideal rather than just another big bad to swat down with starships.

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

I think DS9 disagrees with you.

Maybe the villian isn't necessarily the Cardassians but rather the Dominion.

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

That is kind of like Q shouldn't be on the list as a Star Trek villain. He was more of an "anti-hero" than a villain; and while threatening the destruction of the human race a few times, he never carried through and even helped save it on occasions.

don't say those words. makes me want to cry. screwed up that show before it even had a chance in this world.

You know, the one thing I always liked though about stuff like that was when they went into the future-future and showed off some of the crazy shiat they imagined then.

I'd love to see a Star Trek that continues past TNG era and further into the future with even more futuristic stuff and show us how the Federation and the known galaxy has evolved at that point, into new species they've encountered and maybe advanced enough to start exploring other galaxies...

The Cardassians weren't strictly speaking villains. They were self interested and weren't much for 'humanoid rights' ( yes I made that phrase up) but they didn't often stray into outright hostility. Besides as was mentioned in the Star Trek biatch fest yesterday Garak was the man.

I think DS9 disagrees with you.

I think DS9 showed a decent variety of facets to the Cardassians. Yes, they were the go-to enemy, but they were displayed as more than a monolithic monster race, like how the Borg usually were. The Cardassians had scientists, imperfect adjudicators, refugees from their modern government (Garak), half-breeds seeking acceptance where they could (Dukat's half-Bajoran daughter), and leaders who chose to rise up against their government. While they could have done a better job, they didn't just let it be all Cardassian captains, admirals, and soldiers.

I agree, But they still were only, essentially, interested in themselves long term. As a race, they were essentially the enemy (with the Dominion)

don't say those words. makes me want to cry. screwed up that show before it even had a chance in this world.

You know, the one thing I always liked though about stuff like that was when they went into the future-future and showed off some of the crazy shiat they imagined then.

I'd love to see a Star Trek that continues past TNG era and further into the future with even more futuristic stuff and show us how the Federation and the known galaxy has evolved at that point, into new species they've encountered and maybe advanced enough to start exploring other galaxies...

Whoever did the list failed miserably. I doubt he/she/they even watched any episodes of any Star Trek series or the movies.Q is not a villian. Villians imply doing evil things. Q did stuff, but it wasn't done for some evil purpose. He seemed more amoral than anything else.How he played out seemed more like a bored, almost God-like character who wanted to test out humanity and see what they were capable of. Maybe he thinks of interesting humans as playthings on a certain level. Sure, he liked messing with Picard, but it wasn't done in an evil manner. Mischievous, yes, but evil like a villain, no.I have other problems with the slideshow as well, but I think one example of ineptness is enough.