I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My Children

I’m not easily shocked by things I read on the affair discussion forums, because lets face it, when it comes to people having relationships and sex behind their spouses back, I see some pretty questionable behavior on a regular basis. From people fucking their affair partners in their freshly made marital bed, to a woman whose affair partner wants her to dress up in his wife’s clothes while they do the horizontal waltz, I have pretty much seen it all.But then along came Karen. (not her real name)

Karen introduced herself to the forum in an unabashed manner full of confidence and spunk. As I read her introductory post, I was taken back and actually had to go back and read it twice to make sure what I was reading was actually what I was reading.

You see, some people have affairs because they don’t feel wanted or desired in their primary relationship and seek to get the intimacy that is missing at home from someone else. Some people have affairs because they are simply horny as all get out and can’t help themselves from getting in between the sheets with someone other than their spouse. Some do it for the thrill and excitement of doing something naughty.

Karen though…. She was different.

Oh, sure, she wanted sex. She loves the thrill of having a clandestine affair and Karen made it perfectly clear that she was a huge fan of recreational sex She loves to bed men. In her words, “There are way too many yummy men out there to not have a taste of them all.”

But Karen also had affairs because she wanted her children to have good genetics which she believed that her husband could not provide.

Karen’s two young children were fathered by two different men neither of whom is her husband, and hubby is none the wiser.

By all accounts, Karen’s husband is very successful financially and Karen is adamant that she loves him. “I love my husband.” She says. ” He has given me a comfortable and stable life. Because of his great job and his ability to provide me and my children with resources, I will never divorce him.” Karen is unapologetic about her lifestyle choice and in fact defends it with zeal saying that really this is just nature at its core. Karen is of the opinion that she is in touch with her evolutionary truth and that unlike other women, she has acknowledged her subconscious desires to acquire the most resources and best genes as possible, and is using it to her advantage as she explains below:

Nature wants us to mate with strong, virile men who can beat the shit out of the other men, have strong immune systems and produce the highest quality DNA sperm. But these types of testosterone driven men rarely, if ever, make good long-term partners.

My husband is a sensitive caring man with soft features. The men who fathered my children are much better looking, more masculine, and healthier than my hubby. If you were to ever meet my husband, you would agree that he is not the ideal man to mate with, but he would be a good dad.

While I found this to be provocative, I also found it to be terribly interesting as I have often wondered what role evolutionary psychology and genetics played in relationships that were highlighted by infidelity. You know the thinking…. Is there something in our DNA that makes us want to fuck that hot secretary or to bed down the new guy at the gym even though we have a spouse waiting at home? Are we hard wired to cheat on our spouses? Is monogamy even natural? Hell, even foot fetishes can be traced to evolution, as men are evolutionarily wired to look for small feet, which are a sign of high estrogen production, which itself is a sign of fertility, which explains why I have an uncontrollable urge to fuck every single women that is sporting anything under a size 10 pair of Uggs. But I digress.

When I asked Karen her thoughts on whether she thought we as a species were evolutionary predisposed to cheat she was quick to say that:

I certainly think it is unnatural to be monogamous. There is a lot of evidence that cheating is an important part of human evolution. Men try to spread their seed beyond their relationships. Women such as myself try to get the best genes for their children. I think society is in a losing battle with trying to change the way we are wired. Everyone should accept that monogamy is unnatural. As women, our goal in life is to secure the most resources and best possible genes for our children. Sometimes you can’t get both from one man.

Karen is obviously a woman that knows exactly want she wants and is not in the least bit afraid to go out and get it. I asked Karen if she wouldn’t mind if I picked her brain and she graciously accepted my request for an interview, the result of which is below:

Your 2 children were fathered by 2 different lovers. Are you worried that you husband might become suspicious that he isn’t in fact the father? Looks, mannerisms, personality traits that aren’t shared by the children, especially as they grow older?

Obviously this is one of my biggest concerns. During my research into mixed mating strategies many years ago, I was looking for how often the true paternity was exposed. Obviously in the old, old, old days it was virtually never discovered unless there were racial differences. Nowadays, if my children were to have a serious health problem that required blooding testing or something like that it could come up. But those odds are low because the fathers of my children are healthy, strong, and virile men. It is my belief that no matter what, people are going to tell us that my children have their father’s eyes or chin or something. People see what they want to see and naturally ignore any evidence that goes against their pre-conceived notions. I think my husband will do the same thing.

You said the following:

“Nature wants us to mate with strong, virile men who can beat the shit out of the other men, have strong immune systems and produce the highest quality DNA sperm. But these types of testosterone driven men rarely, if ever, make good long-term partners”.

So are you ok with the fact that your children might not be well suited to being good long-term partners?

That is an impossible question to answer. My children are much more likely to inherit their fathers looks rather than their personalities. Who’s to say they won’t be good long-term partners? The important thing is there is a good chance they will be attractive. That gives them the opportunity to produce lots of grandchildren for me. That is the ultimate goal, leaving behind as many descendants as possible.

You are unapologetic about the fact you had sex outside of your marriage in order to ensure that you children had the best genes possible. How would you feel if one of your own children gave you a grandchild, conceived under the same type of situation that you chose?

Well, if that were to happen I would obviously not know about it. If my son were to impregnate someone’s wife without the husband ever finding out, then that would give me a bonus grandbaby! Obviously if my daughter were to do the same thing I am doing then I wouldn’t be in a position to criticize her. As women, our goal in life is to secure the most resources and best possible genes for our children. Sometimes you can’t get both from one man.

When did you first become conscious of your desire to have certain aspects of your life fulfilled by different partners? Have you cheated in all of your relationships? Was there something in an early relationship that was an “awakening” for you?

I guess I am what you would call a “professional adulteress.” I have cheated in every relationship I have ever been in, including my marriage. I am an infidelity expert and I am very discreet. I have read a lot of material on infidelity. Not once has my husband shown suspicion about my affairs nor does he know that my lovers fathered the two children. I don’t know if it was an early relationship that made me the way I am. I think I am just not a monogamous person. There are way too many yummy men out there to not have a taste of them all.

Other than the fact that your husband is a good provider, are there other qualities about him that keep you with him? Do you enjoy sex with him? If so, how often?

Yes, he is one of the nicest and most emotionally available men I’ve ever known. If he were a woman he would be my best friend. He is a great husband. I would venture to say that most women would never even think about cheating on him. I do not expect him to be a stallion in bed like my lovers, but he is ok. When we have sex (these days about once a month or so), I don’t mind it.

Do you think that your husband has been faithful to you? If you found out that he had in fact had sex outside of the marriage, would you be angry or disappointed, or would you be able to accept it because men are hard wired to spread their seed far and wide?

I seriously doubt my husband has ever been unfaithful. It is not the way he is. He was a virgin until we started dating. He was 36 when I took his virginity. He has never been the player type and I can tell he embraces being married and “off-limits.”

Ever thought about broaching the subject of an open relationship with your husband?

An open relationship with my husband? No way. One of the main reasons I married him is his ability to provide me and my children with the resources we need. I don’t want to share my husband’s time and money with other women. That is out of the question.

It’s impossible to know how prevalent situations like this are as people won’t freely admit to it, but I get the impression that you think it happens a lot more than we might think. Thoughts?

Of course there are lots of other women in the same situation as myself. If you believe the paternity statistics (I do), approximately 10% of children are raised by non-biological dads. How many of those 10% besides myself admit to it? Probably not very many. Obviously I admit to it, but anonymously. We will never admit to it on-record because of the ramifications we would face.

Do you ever feel guilty? If so, how do you manage those feelings?

For me, I’ve never felt any guilt about any of the affairs I’ve had. I’ve often said that I’m like a man-I can fuck men the way men fuck women, without any guilt-and get right back into bed with my husband at night without the slightest tinge of remorse.

Would you say that you are gaining something emotionally from your affairs or are you in it purely for the sex?

Sex, that’s it. My husband does a great job with meeting my emotional needs. I have never had an emotional affair because I have never needed to. The cause for all my affairs has been pure lust.

What precautions do you take to ensure you maintain secrecy?

I take every precaution. I even do things I don’t have to do. But as far as the simple things, I’ve always only communicated with my lovers via email. And I would only access it at work. The phone thing never comes into the equation, which makes things so much easier. No single lovers! I’ve always looked for married or taken men, excluding one-night stands. Never change your attitude or appearance at home. When I am with my lovers, I am a sexual being. When I am at home, I am Mother. Only my best friend knows about my affairs. She is my alibi and also a good reference point to hold me in check if she notices that I’m getting too involved with my lover or I’m starting to act careless. I also make sure she knows when all my dates are happening so she doesn’t accidentally call my home while I’m out.

What’s the best and worst thing about being in an affair?The best thing about being in an affair is the great sex. You see, the minute you get married and have a child, you become Mother. My lovers never knew me as Mother. To them, I was a sexual being. I’ve always told myself the worst thing about being in an affair is getting caught. Since this has never happened to me, I haven’t experienced the worst thing about having an affair. I hope I never do.

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So what do you all think? Is this a case of someone that is in touch with there inner evolutionary truth and she is just acting up on that? Have you ever wondered about being impregnated by your affair partner? Do you think that you might have subconsciously thought about it?

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I can honestly say that I am happy I read this due to the fact that even if I feel that I married my soulmate I am going to do a paternity test on every single kid that pops out of her so that way I am 100% covered that l am not going to be the spineless whimp thats married to the chick that was interviewed for this article.
I can see needing sex on the side, hell, guys do that, but having another guys kid and sponging off another for his resources to raise it really borders on sociopathic.
This is NOT going to happen to me. Paternity test all the time and EVERY time to ENSURE you aren’t one of the 10% of men that are clowned. That aside, I’m sure this chick is a hellcat in the sack.

It’s funny how all of a sudden people are experts in evolutionary psychology and the human species. Monogamy IS IN our nature. It’s what made us evolve past the primal stage. It’s how we developed co-habitation, learned to raise and nurse our young. There are many other animals that are monogamous as well.

There is something to be said for karma. This woman wants the best of both worlds and we all know that’s not possible. It’s obvious she is nothing more than a parasite, one who consumes but never contributes. I’m guessing her husband must be a spineless neutered male typical of the post 1970’s. I bet he snuggles up with her at night to watch Greys Anatomy never knowing she’d been screwed six ways from sunday just a few hours before.

The fact she says she chose her lovers for her genes because they will be able to give her children a better life, means she has no clue. Her husband, with his limited gene pool, was able to become successful and rich enough to provide for such a wanton whore.

But who am I to judge? It’s also unfathomable that the husband doesn’t suspect a thing. I bet he already knows, but will meekly say nothing for fear of her leaving him. Any woman who would disrespect not only herself, but her husband and kids as such and cause them to believe that man is their father or those are his kids, is doomed.

Her story or situation is not that far out the norm that i have been noticing, being back into the social scene in my late 20’s.My early twenties tho, most women i met whr single and cheating was never an issue. As I gotten older i have realized that most women i meet have husbands or long term boyfriends with kids. They love thr partners very much have established, house, cars, jobs, mutual friends, etc….

This dont explain why i have many of these women are in my phone. I’ll tell u y Im free, established, good looking, killer smile, and hit the gym often, and im not even the alpha male of a group, Its all about natural genetic sex appeal. While its sounds like im boasting im leading to a point.

My father has over 11 know children, only two have the same mother. He is in his 50’s and still can pick up a twenty year old with no issue at all. This is the otherside of the “Karen” story. My mother is attractive but thru out all the years growing up and after her two kids (different dads) she nvr dated a great looking man. She was with them for other reasons.

This was really an eye-opening article. One part of me admires this women for being so honest and another part of me wants to decapitate her. Honestly, I believe that there are many women out there just like Karen.

The way I look at it: Instead of getting angry about stuff like this, I’ll use this knowledge to my advantage. Never take paternity for granted. I think a lot of men (including Karen’s husband) certainly do.

Guys, if you have children, just get the paternity test. It is such an easy way to protect yourself.

All the more reason for many men to not get married in the first place. It’s bad enough that a woman can divorce a man unilaterally and take the bulk of his assets and income. When he is denied contact with his children, that is a sword through his heart. Even if they are not his biological children, a man who labors to support and raise a child IS the father. Men choose to raise children knowing they are not theirs, and that is about as selfless as one can be. But to deceive a man into thinking he is raising his child when in fact it’s that of another man is one of the worst betrayals imaginable. I think paternity testing should be mandatory at birth, DNA test all babies born alive to prevent paternity fraud. A man has the right to know if a child is his or not. Deception of this nature is not only harmful to men, it’s harmful to children born in this way too.

Well, I can totally understand and am in empathy with this particular writer. In fact, if you get through this rather lengthy tome, Matt Ridley’s “The Red Queen” explains it why, in evolutionary biology terms.

She has a point that she’s hard-wired to behave like that, but she’s also soft-wired not to. “If you have to lie about it, you shouldn’t be doing it” (omission counts as a lie) is a mainstay of human morality for a reason — because if every human being behaved the way that this woman does, society would simply not be able to stay together.

What we have here is a severe case of betrayal of trust. Trust (and its fulfillment) is what society is based on. You could just as easily steal from shops and report that “it’s in my nature to want as many resources as I can get without having to give any value away”. You could just as easily murder your rivals and say “it’s in our nature to want to eliminate those who get in the way of our goals”. But the fact is that if you didn’t lie about those things and get away with it, you’d be subject to punishment. The same thing is the case here. If this woman was ever found out, she could be divorced and sued for everything. It’s no small crime to fool a man into raising children that aren’t his. That 10% of the population does it is no excuse — I’m sure 10% of the population steals too. I know I have!

This is an issue of basic morality, and mrs. “infidelity expert” may have cooked up a very clever justification for her selfish behavior, but it is very simply exactly as it seems: wrong to the core.

I can see this woman’s perspective in that she acquires the right resources from the right men to satisfy her needs. It’s a very pragmatic take on life. My problem with that is that the husband isn’t given a choice in this matter. We don’t hear a great deal of what the woman does for her husband. The monthly customary hump isn’t going to be all that special.

For my money, the husband would be better off with a high-priced call girl once month. It’s not cheap, it’s cheaper than being played for a fool.

What a despicable human being. Why get married? Why promise to be faithful knowing full well that you will break that promise? If you want to sleep around, fine, but why lie about it? She most DEFINITELY does not love her husband, clearly this woman has never known love, she follows her so called evolutionary callings. She is an animal pure and simple. In my opinion she has eviscerated her husbands life, and to me that is a crime.

BTW what is this good genetics bullshit? Its not about genetics, she has no knowledge of these mens genetics, all she knows is they look good. Call it what it is, she is a simple minded, shallow whore whose sole method for evaluating a human being is based on their looks. What a disgrace to the species.

She is slightly mistaken about personality twin studies have shown that heredity is more important than upbringing (except in cases of neglect).

From a genetic standpoint her positions is however perfectly rational.

@Karen: I’ll actually go a step further than that, I’ll give you some (amoral?) advice. If you want to do really great genetically (ie lots of biological grand kids), try to influence your sons to not settle down just because a girl had his child, if they do that however they should have their children’s paternity tested regardless. An added bonus will be that you will be seen as being extremley dissaproving of “those” women, reducing your chances of getting caught.
I would under other circumstances also recommend instructing your daughters to follow your own strategy, but this might come of as suspicious to them. But this would carry the very real risk of being outed to their father.

Also I assume you are aiming for your children to do as well as possible economically? Why else bother with hubby… welfare mom’s beat you by 3 children on average. heh. So to help you with that, I hope your “sperm donors” had good SAT scores. IQ is between 0.6 and 0.9 heritable and is a very important predictor of future income, educational achievement, health and even (you won’t believe this) looks (studies have confirmed more beautiful people also have higher IQs on average).

@everyone:
Its the correct thing to do if one wishes to pursue enlightened self interest. But If an entire society of women behaved in this way, it would only take a few generations for them to quite markedly reduce the suitability of the average male to provide for children. And perhaps even pay taxes that help fatherless children.

So let me get this straight: she loves, married, and plans to stay with an intelligent, nice, good father, but she doesn’t want her children to have those same qualities? It’s like she took a step forward for evolution – moving the human race toward a kinder, more peaceful future, and then stepped back for no reason. There were good reasons testosterone fueled alpha males were more reproductively successful thousands of years ago. Those reasons don’t exist today. If she wants her progeny to be arrogant, selfish, and violent, then okay. But hopefully she understands that that’s what she’s doing.

This is why marriage is a very bad idea. Women only view their “husbands” as chattels in a very real sense and view us guy’s as a little more then animals.

Maybe the extreme female brain is inherently sociopathic, as the extreme male brain is represented by aspies.

Because if you look at the sociopathic qualities of male sociopaths they line up perfectly with the average traits normal women tend to have. So maybe we just have to accept the fact that the vast majority of women are sociopaths and do not have a conscience. Or if they do have a conscience it is greatly diluted/weak.

Makes me give another thought to the concept that most women don’t have soul’s(originally debated by St Augustine and the early Church). Because even though that evil manipulating harpy is one of the few to speak it; given the epidemic level of paternity fraud in marriages most married women are indeed doing it.

“Q. Ever thought about broaching the subject of an open relationship with your husband?

A. An open relationship with my husband? No way. One of the main reasons I married him is his ability to provide me and my children with the resources we need. I don’t want to share my husband’s time and money with other women. That is out of the question.”

It’s like she considers her husband to be a slave. His time and money belong to her, but she gives no loyalty to him? If she has affairs, why can’t he try to have one? She doesn’t lose anything even if he makes another woman pregnant. He, on the other hand, will see his genes die completely under this arrangement.

Another book by Matt Ridley: Genoma, what makes us humans? Explains how the size in the primates males testicles is detremined by the number of sexual partner of the females. Gorillas, where only one alpha male impregnates all the females, have tiny testicles in relation to their body mass. Chimpanzees, at the opposite end of the spectrum, have the biggest of them all since in a completely polygamic society and its sperm has to “compete” with other males’ to impregnate females.

Guess what does evolution suggests about human’s reproductive habits based on the size of mens’ balls? Almost exactly halfway between chimps and gorillas, which suggests a 50% incidence of female “infidelity”. Of course this means this has happened since ever in the human’s history, not only in the last generations.

I’m trying to imagine this situation backwards. He cheats on his wife with women who have huge boobs. He wants his children to be genetically superior, and genetic superiority is directly related to physical attraction. He’s physically attracted to big knockers so big chested women will have superior offspring. Imagine how much milk they can produce! That increased milk production means those babies will be fat and better able to survive a famine. Just think, the babies he makes with those broads will be less likely to die of starvation due to insufficient breast milk. What a huge genetic advantage that is in the modern world, that guy is undoubtedly on the right track.

As for the cuckoldry rates, it varies depending on socioecomonic status, from 1% among the upper classes to 30% along the lower classes. Overall, in America, the rate is estimated at 3.7%. That’s a million men in America duped into raising a child who’s the product of another man’s cumshot blasted between his whore wife’s spread legs.

I just love all these women’s and feminist blogs. They really let women reveal what they are truly like. Every time I read a piece like the above, I am glad I decided never to let a woman into my life.

Keep posting and scaring of the guys, Ladies. You are doing all the men in the world a favour.

Reading that article makes me very angry, this will never happen to me as i’m way to paranoid to ever really trust anyone but if it does happen to someone and the man kills his wife then i’m OK with that, yeah your read it wright, this is so offensive that i actually would understand he would >>>>>>Edited by Admin to remove violent comment<<<<<<<<

Noone has asked the really good question. It is this after the preliminary words. What if your descendants especially your sons run across women who behave like you and they find men who are more “ALPHA” than your boys, and let your “BETA” boys raise offspring which are not biologically theirs or worse yours, what would you do? In short what would you do, think and feel about your descendants, your sons, being cuckolded by lesser, equal or greater men?

If “Karen” and this interview were on the level, I would have liked to have seen Karen asked directly about propagating her husband’s genes and her duty/responsibility to pass on his genes via HIS biological children, if only as a fair trade for his support of her cuckold bastards.

I am an anthropologist and study human evolution and I’m sorry to say your reasoning is flawed. The word “fittest” in “survival of the fittest” does NOT in any way mean physically fit. It means “most capable of surviving”. Unless you live in a third world country at the moment, choosing brawn over brains means you chose to make your children *less* fit for success in the world.

You say your husband is wealthy. How did he get that way? Whatever he’s got, business sense, intellect, etc, THAT is what is going to be valuable in the next few centuries. Instead of being the queen mother to a dynasty of mega wealthy bankers and CEOs in your old age who WILL survive, you’ll have a few ex-convicts and highschool dropouts and the like as your genetic legacy, all of whom will eventually find ways to kill themselves younger and younger until they fizzle out…

If you honestly want to have the “best” genes in your family, add your husband’s to the mix, and then see which of your children become successful and which ones fail.

Thanks for all of your responses. i know that this is a controversial topic that can bring about strong emotions but any comments that suggest that violence is the way to solve this issue will be removed.

Honey I Don’t Understand Why You Think You Are The Alpha Female That All These Alpha Males Should Flock To! Your Personality Flaws Are Glaring And Since We Tend To Attract And Gravitate Towards Like Minded People I Would Venture To Say These So Called Males Have The Same Flaws As Well . So Therefore These Are Things That Are Being Passed To Your Offspring From Both Parents! Your Narcissim Is Off The Charts Babe! I Would Say You Are Merely Flaunting Your Affairs To Your Husband Via Other Mens Children And Your Marriage And Your Children Are Some Sort Of Weird Trophy To You.

Maybe for short bursts of time, but I think if humans were truly monogamous, they’d not need 2 dozen trials and errors with various partners and then enter a marriage just to divorce 7 years later. You see, if long term monogamy was in our nature, it should be, by and large, effortless and it’s been shown time and time again to not be effortless, in fact it’s a challenge. That speaks volumes on how monogamous humans really are.

“This woman wants the best of both worlds and we all know that’s not possible.”

Really? Because apparently it’s been possible and been a reality for quite some time at least for her.

“I’m guessing her husband must be a spineless neutered male typical of the post 1970?s.”

That or she’s really that good. I never understood why people jump to conclusions about the husband, she might really be that covert.

“Her husband, with his limited gene pool, was able to become successful and rich enough to provide for such a wanton whore.”

Yet his genes weren’t passed on. To us, yes, he’s successful, yes he has a great job. To evolution, he’s merely a genetic mishmash that didn’t work out.

Evolution doesn’t care how much money you make, only if you reproduce and the offspring live on to reproduce again.

“Any woman who would disrespect not only herself, but her husband and kids as such and cause them to believe that man is their father or those are his kids, is doomed.”

Idle threats. What are you going to do about it? Find out who “Karen” is and the pull the plug?

The sad part is I agree that what Karen is doing is deplorable. I think paternity tests should be mandatory because it really isn’t fair that the husband get shouldered with the burden of providing for kids that aren’t his.

Sure, it might be in our biology to be unfaithful and to look for the best possible partners, but that’s just not a good excuse to do it.

By all means, have open relationships in which every partner is knows what’s going on. Lying and deception to get what you want is wrong as you hurt the people involved, and especially if it’s your husband, you hurt one of the people that’s supposed to be most dear to you.

Of course the female in question is probably very average intellectually and physically.

If she was physically up to parr, with good genes herself, theres no reason she couldn’t have her own wealthy, physically fit alpha male, instead of basically being used as a cum dumpster by carefree players. She must crave alpha genes so badly because her own are so dysfunctional.

If she was intellectually up to parr she wouldn’t need a financial and emotional slave as she would be educated and earning her own money, as well as mentally strong enough to make it on her own. So i feel nearly as much pity for this woman as the man himself as she has conceded that she is so pathetic that she has to live a lie to survive.

I find it a little odd how frank and scientific she is about the whole thing however, i don’t expect much more from a woman than “it felt good” or some excuse as to how her husband pushed her into it with such and such a behaviour. Such frankness it seems almost male in origin.

Also her attempts at rationalization and justification don’t hold weight. Sure cuckolding may be natural, but then so is the act of >>>>>>Edited by Admin to remove violent comment<<<<<<<
However in a Civilized society we need checks on these things.

shes only honest if she isn’t also lying about the true reason why she cheated on him. That can go soooo many ways. I doubt she cheated on him with really dweeby but very smart (VERY SMART) guys so she can pass on the genius genes to her kids. In fact, Go marry someone who you think has good genetics to begin with, and why doesn’t she trust her genetic selector she was gifted/cursed with, and marry someone who she is attracted to?

The problem with this situation isn’t really the fact that she’s doing it. It’s the fact that in many states, this woman’s behavior is codified into LAW. She can do this, hide it, and then even if her husband finds out and tries to take some reasonable action, she can use the courts to force him to CONTINUE supporting her.

The whole crux of the problem isn’t her “deplorable morality” or whatever you want to call it. It’s the idea that our society is far more ok with women doing this sort of thing to men, than ANYONE doing such things to women — take a look at how much is awarded to women for their emotional grief when hospitals mix up babies for a short period of time.

It’s not like she is unique in this respect. As mentioned, the goal for a woman is to get the seed of the greatest men she could find while marrying the greatest provider she could get. Every other woman does the exact same thing for the exact same reason, they just don’t know it.

What’s the point of consciously propagating one’s genes? This is a question separate from having your own children — living beings you presumably love. Plotting an evolutionary legacy is not something we’re designed to do. We fuck on impulse — impulses determined by good ol’ mother nature (e.g., the hypergamy of females). On an even basic level, people do not typically fuck in order to have kids. Nature has ensured that we crave fucking, which results in children.

This woman is a narcissist. The allegedly better “genetic stock” of these kids is no different than an over-priced handbag or automobile. This could also have potentially devastating effects on her children if they discover they’re unrelated and their biological fathers are unknown.

I wonder if women smile devilishly as the cuckold recounts his family’s medical history to a doctor.

I agree with Davey, almost reeks of Troll and the narration by ‘Karen’ appears to be of male origin. Regardless, the respondents attack her position with powerful arguments, many that are quite strong and compelling by both male and female perspectives. Evolutionary psychology is theoretical and somewhat pseudo-science. It can appear convincing, and can appeal to the intellect, however, the majority of the respondents were able to criticize the flaws in the theory having little or no knowledge of the subject. Bravo!

I wouldnt be amazed to learn this woman would differentiate in OWN KIDS too, and throw away one’s she doesnt find fit up to her gene standards.

I already feel sorry for her her husband and unborn children !
Its a pitty such creatures exists in our society !! and to make it worst, Radical Feminists encourage and take pride in such shameful acts !

Let me see if I have this straight. This women (who I have doubts is actually female), married a guy for his money. She then proceeded to have children by two other fathers. But will stay married to her chump because of his money. ….. How is this not a mental problem? Ignoring the fact that she took vows KNOWING that she was going to break them, she’s just using the chump for money and security. Viewing and using other people likes tools for your personal gain does not seem like the act of a well adjusted person.

If I was married to that woman, and I found out about what she did to me, may G-d have mercy on her because I wouldn’t.

One thing that many people don’t seem to understand about men like Karen’s husband is that the most decent men are also the one’s to take betrayal the hardest. They don’t shrug it off. They tend to get very angry about it and that anger tends to simmer for a long time. I will fight almost anybody, and have, but the only times I’ve ever regretted getting in somebody’s way has always been the “decent” men.

For those of you who think that Karen is the only woman doing this, think again! Have you ever watched MAURY??? The only difference being skanks like Karen and the skanks on the Maury show is that Karen hasn’t been caught yet.

I was just wondering about the men she slept with. Do they know what is going on? Did they know she wanted to be impregnated by them? Isn’t she worried that they might do something about the situation? Or do they enjoy knowing another man has to work hard for their children? Also, is she planning on having more children? Wouldn’t that increase the risk of something goin wrong?

Whatcha gonna do when he finds out those kids aren’t his and HE DIVORCES YOU?! Of course, he could afford a good attorney if he cuts off your “resources” and with that oh-so-handy DNA test he could get out of paying child support since he’ll have irrefutable proof of your infidelity. Didn’t think about THAT, now didja?

“Nowadays, if my children were to have a serious health problem that required blooding testing or something like that it could come up. But those odds are low because the fathers of my children are healthy, strong, and virile men.”

Yeah. They were so healthy, strong and virile their spawn will never have any kind of serious accident that would require blood testing, either!

Good job, lady. You wanted your kids to have “good, healthy genes” from some dudes other than the man you’re MARRIED TO and who is RAISING THEM and you got that…but unfortunately they could have inherited YOUR selfishness, stupidity and complete lack of morals.

Whassa matter? Did a sperm bank want too much of your “resources” for their services?

Congratulations. You win a cookie for the all-time “Most Creative Excuse For Whoring Around”.

Wow. It’s not often one has the dubious privilege of hearing a carefully controlled narcissistic sociopath expound at length. Did anyone else take note of her assessment re: children as simply the demonstrated legacy of her winning strategy?

Got news for you, hon (if, indeed, you are a woman, of which I have my doubts). No one here is thinking of you as “Mother”—unless that’s the first syllables of a certain four-syllable word.

I’d love for this Karen to read my letters from adult children like hers, and the husbands left in the dark. THEY ALL KNEW intuitively. Or, when they find out, did she consider the legal rights the children may have to their biological father’s estate? Also, basing her mothering relationships and foundation on a lie will harm everyone more than she can imagine. This gal is in denial.http://www.lovechildstories.com
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I am not Karen’s husband but I was married to a Karen type for 10 years. My ex-wife done the same thing to me. She gave birth to a son who is 13 years old and a daughter who is 8 years old now.They both have different dads also. Just like the replies above stated, something happen in her life made it possible for me to prompt to have DNA testing on them and it excluded me from being the father. To find out children that I raised and payed child support too, that is not mine is devastating.Yep Karen type women (pure evil) take children away from the fathers..take grandchidren away from their grandparents..take siblings away from each other ( I still love them but I cannot think of them the same way ) because I know they really belong to some other man. Karen type women have stolen the life out of everyone who is affected by her actions. I was blessed to have remarried to a adorable woman who have had two of (my children) no question that is mine…… my son who is Ken jr 3 years old and my daughter who is 9 months. Karen and all that is like her you are scum…I pray you get caught and have to pay dearly for your actions…

This women could be a sociopath or psychopath of some sort.
This women has no empathy whatsoever.
She only cares about herself, no remorse, no guilt.
She doesn’t love her husband, that is obvious to most readers, but what is not obvious to most readers is that she doesn’t love her children either. If they will ever found out her husband is not the biological father of her children, it is not only devastating to her husband, but also (and even more so) devastating to her children, as they have another problem, they have the urge to found out their real father, but now will never know.

If everybody found out about her and started hating her, she wouldn’t even understand I guess, and she would think the world is unkind and unfair to her!

Our civilization used to have the good sense to castigate women like this. If every woman acted in this way, the institution of marriage would collapse, widespread male demotivation would occur, and our economy would crumble. Oh wait, those things are already happening!

i’m not sure if i’ll be able to do such thing as this woman did. i’ve been married for 12 years and i too do not think i want my husband’s genes (he’s anti-social, abusive and did not give me a proper wedding) hence we have no kids but i don’t think i’ll ever wanna cheat on him like this by having another man’s baby. its afterall unfair towards my husband if he has to raise him up like his own. of course maybe unless my husband is rich but he isn’t.

I suppose the thing that strikes me as odd is that she not only wants to hurt her own family, but the family of others as well. She will only cheat with people that are in relationships. She is seriously playing with fire here….with each person she shags she extends the circle of people that would have a motive to hurt her. Or worse.

Not so sure this is a case of smart mating, it could just be a darwin award waiting to happen.

I know this is a late comment but Karen is a loser. Her husband is acually wasting his life with his worthless wife. He should have used her only as a sex toy rather than marry her – she has no other value.

It is simply unreal HOW MANY girls on here would NOT tell their MAN about cheating or affairs…how sick. It is your MAN that is stuck raising the kids born of your infidelity, your man suffering from the AIDS or STD you contracted and gave him, your man working to pay the rent and take care of you. ANYONE who agrees that keeping silent is the best option, is more than likely stating that THEY too would cheat, and simply are not WOMAN enough to confess the problems and give the man a chance to forgive or walk away. Its amazing how many women are hard wired to cheat and cant stay faithful, YET, they are great at deceiving thier husbands and using them for free housing, food and security. Nothing like having ur guilt free cake and eating it too, huh ladies?

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It’s clear that Karen was very lucky marrying a guy who’s outside her general ballpark. I’m thinking her studs are from her old trailer park. You have no self-respect Karen, you are thoroughly selfish and a fraud – and your husband is sleeping with the enemy.

Watch the karma Karen, because like death – you can’t avoid it. Maybe then you’ll rethink your “proud as punch” attitude you thoroughly loathsome woman!

Hmmm, this is desturbing…fighting revolution. Well, that is why we have morals right? If you “Karen” want to talk about genetics…your husband may not be muscular, handsome and big in certain departments there is one very important thing you forgotten…intelligents, he appartently has that except for the fact he might already know about your affairs of bettering the world and is in denial. You did get to know the other guys but how do you know they don’t have some medical issues running in their family such as colon cancer or things like that (cancer is one thing that doesn’t give a rats ass about your history and “dominate gene” health). Not to say your kids are not smart and your husband personality my pass on to them but intelligents only goes so far. Besides, your husband won’t be the only person hurt if he finds out…you children will be crushed because they won’t look at the dominate gene excuse like you do.

I’m surprised by all the negative comments. I mean, it’s her life. Does it really bother people so much what other’s do with there personal lives?

If she’s gonna cheat, she’s gonna cheat. Jesus. And I agree with her to an extend. We are not monogamous creatures, as studies state, and it is only natural to seek out men with top genetics as MATES. Not partners, but MATES.
When you look at instinct, what she’s saying isn’t all that absurd.

Also, for everyone stating that she’s something of a ‘gold-digger,’ she stated that her and her husband are emotionally in-tuned and happy. That she doesn’t look for emotional companionship, as she’s happy with her husband.

She has a point in not wanting to have an open-marriage, while it’s a tiny bit selfish.
My mother and father got a divorce, and I chose to live with him. Once he started getting girlfriends, he started ignoring me, texting them all the time, and spending a lot of his money on going out with them. With her, the cheating means “Go have sex, leave right after.” With her husband, who’s more soft-hearted, it would be an emotional, time consuming thing. In other words, it wouldn’t just be the sex. It would be more like companionship. Thus threatening the marriage itself.

Also, with all the sex she’s been having, you’d thing that ‘one time a month’ would slowly become more obvious, as her… ‘parts’ would slowly change. (Yes, having a lot of sex changes the look of the female genitalia. Even the feel.) Is he really all that smart if, not only are there two people working at the cheating game, he can’t notice such simple things? While I agree, intelligence is a gene that should be looked out for more (that’s the first thing I look for in any person) you can’t rule out that this woman herself probably has a high I.Q. Most women who cheat get caught everytime, but she hasn’t. The only person who knows was someone she knew could help her with planning. That’s called strategy, friends. She knows that we are not monogamous by nature, and acts on it. So what?

Oh, and if you guys want to call her a ‘sociopath,’ that’s fine. Sociopaths don’t have emotion. “My husband does a great job at meeting my emotional needs.” Yeah, she’s totally a sociopath, guys.

All-in-all, while I can’t commend her going behind her husband’s back… What she’s doing is pretty natural, whether or not you want to admit it. Truth is, if I get married and my husband doesn’t have great traits (Good health, mental and physical, and high intelligence. Some choice visual traits.) then I will be getting a genetic donation from someone,(Not by cheating, by going to a damn hospital.) as to ensure my great traits are complimented.

In my final word to you all, try not to get so furious over a woman doing what she knows is best for the next generation. We need more people looking at specific traits to cut the amount of stupid in the world. Agree? Good. Bye.

A “little unfair”? A LITTLE unfair?!?! The husband’s entire existence is meaningless and she doesn’t even TELL HIM and she lies to him to his face about it, not even giving him a CHANCE to get out of the marriage…. and THATS ONLY A LITTLE UNFAIR?!?!

Trust me on this one. You would be d-e-a-d if your future husband found out. And my IQ is 137. And I’ve caught ALLLL my cheating partners.

They too wanted “better genetics”- but get this!! I naturally have an 8 pack, ripped body, was all state at wrestling, good skin, good teeth and smile, strong jaw and good looking face, good hair…. But I’m 5’6.

So apparently good genes, me never being sick, and me being well off and highly intelligent isn’t enough… NOW THEY NEED TALL TOO!!! Well hey that’s ok because I’m just as good at seducing as these girls are, when my game’s on I can bring a taller girl home from a club. (And ladies, you know THATS impressive.)

I may not find a girl whos committed enough to have a marriage, but I will DIE before I get cuckolded and pay for some hoe!! (*applause now please*)

Hey, Britnie: Spare us, hon. You’re clearly not too bright. Try looking up the definition of “sociopath” before condemning others for properly using it. Oh, and … your attempt to justify your own skankitude was quite entertaining. Deep down, though, in that place where you can’t lie to yourself, you know that both you and Karen are whores.

I believe in Karma. I have taught many children over the years whose parents are physically very healthy and attractive, but who have produced children with profound disabilities. There is no guarantee of the physical constitution of children. It may not be apparent in your children but your grandchildren’s well-being may well be something where the karma of the world and there is no denying it, surfaces. One can not be so controlling and expect there to be no repercussions – often to the innocent.

Cheated on him for better genes? So you’re a fucking geneticist who is “positive” that securing the genes of these married men will help you succeed in some evolutionary cycle? You sound very vain Karen. You see yourself staring down at society from your moral pedestal as this highly evolved intellectual cunning entity who is securing herself this ideal utopian society. Let me tell you something Karen:

1. If you’re securing the “genes” of someone for you little ideal children, then why do you only go after “married” men? Why do you single out such a large majority of perfectly capable males? I assure you that these “flawless” genes of yours really won’t matter because there won’t exactly be much of a difference between your husband or these other men. Evolution is an extremely long process which takes hundreds of thousands of generations for any sort of result. The only way to be positive of extracting “positive genes” is by going through extensive health tests, blood tests, urine sampling, and IQ testing. I highly doubt that your suitors are willing to endure this long protracted process to get into your panties nor that your promiscuous self would either. lol

2. So you openly admit that you’re merely with your husband just for the financial and emotional benefit yet you claim to love your spouse? For such a “cunning” intellectual you sure to do have very shallow-minded views on the world. You know it’d be a lot easier to simply say “Why yes, I am a whore and I enjoy screwing around with my husband any way I see fit and I get aroused at the thought and the thrill of not getting caught.”

3. And finally, after debunking the “complicated” mind of Karen I can safely conclude that she is nothing more than sociopath, egotistical, immature child who wants nothing more than to eat cake and have ice-cream. While you are off in your little self-justified sexual escapades you take no mind of just how shallow you really are from the rest of the world. Just because you found a way to justify something that humanity has already been doing for tens of thousands of years doesn’t qualify you as some interesting intellectual.

I completely agree with Karen, we should all use evolutionary biology and psychology (and throw in a bit of Ayn Rand) to justify any behaviors. I know Karen will be dispassionate when I rape her because it’s in my evolutionary self interest because I feel she is a good vessel for my genes. I also know Karen will understand when her husband find out and cuts her children’s throats. After all, in keeping with male lions’ behavior, it is genetically illogical to spend any unnecessary time or resources on perpetuating a rival male’s DNA.

Of course I don’t really believe in that stuff I’m only expressing my disgust with Karen. I do think, to be perfectly honest, if she told me that story in person with that cruel, vicious caluclation, I would have a hard time not going to jail. I don’t even know her. It’s just so cruel and disgusting it screams for retribution.

I am for mandatory paternity testing of all children at birth. The stakes and potential evil are just too high not to have it. For any women that find this too offensive or generalizing of women, I ask you to really try to give it some thought and put yourselves on the other side, the male side, of this issue.

I agree with everything she says, except going behind her husbands back. She should at least tell her husband that she likes having sex with other men to cater to her high sex drive, and that it’s purely sex. There’s a good chance he might be a willing cuckold, considering his own low sex appetite (once a month). In which case she wouldn’t have to go to such great lengths to conceal her extra-marital sex.

This would be an easier step, than telling your husband that you don’t want his children. Men, even the short, fat, ugly, stupid, small dicked ones have a desire to pass on their DNA (which I personally think is selfish). But you never know he might be down with it.

For this part, if I were a really selfish woman, I’d tell hubby I didn’t want children, and want him to get a vasectomy (citing excuses like not liking condoms, or that the pill/other contraceptive measures caused side-affects).

Then from here, letting nature take it’s course (an infertile husband + lots of consensual extra-marital sex). It’d only be a matter of time before her sex partners would stop using condoms, or a condom would split during her fertile days, and hey presto!

To Britnie she POSTED this fucking piece of trash and she is asking for it And this is totally wrong You and her are terrible people You do not do this to someone you “Love” This Man that loved her is getting fucked over with her fucking other men I hope to have a Good Mate as him from reading this piece of trash I would love to have someone who understand”s me emotionally and psychically I am completely outraged at this Thing for taking advantage of someone and not thinking of his emotion

Reading this was very disturbing. Sexual irresponsibility has been around since the day of creation of males and females. If an adult married woman or male wants to cheat on their spouses or any partner in a relationship so be it. It is their adult life and if anyone has unprotected sex with someone it is irresponsibility and immature behavior regardless of outcome. But do not do it if you have children and do not do it to produce children. What a selfish human being! For any male or female to birth a child into a triangle of irresponsible and immoral sexual behavior is not only to destroy two adults lives but the children they bring into this mess. If Karen wants to screw who ever and her husband none the wiser so be it but karma will find out her dirty deeds that will not only ruin her husband, but the unknowing father of these children and the lives that surround all of them. She needs to grow up. Whether we are scientifically proven or not to have lusts and desires of others or manipulating who we can breed with for children we want does not matter when all morals and values on these unions are destroyed. Children are born every day to families of dysfunctions, abuse, neglect and circumstances from ignorant women who choose not to protect their self or act irresponsibility. Grow up! Being a sexual attractive being means having safe boundaries, healthy, truthful communications and honesty in any sexual relationship. If the price to pay for having sex with a penis or a vagina means breeding lies, deceit, hurt, and pain then it is not anything attractive nor a lifestyle choice but of selfishness to pay for in the end. Who can afford damage as this for a roll in the hay? No one I hope! If it were a topic of a male or female’s choice to have irresponsible sex in cheating I would never say a word because it is their adult life. But when anyone mentions stupid choices that hurt or can harm children then I have a big issue with those who can not keep their pants pulled up and their skirt pulled down. Sexual beings and sexual attractiveness only exist if you truly can be honest with those you love and interact sexually with. If not then do not expect acceptance from anyone else who lives with their heads in the clouds of reality while others are slowly burying a hole in the damage of karma.

The fact is, Karen has no respect or regard for her husband or she wouldn’t cheat, even if it is primarily for the sex. And when she does get caught, which of course she will, she’ll lose not only the life she claims she values so much but probably the respect of her children, who no doubt will be hurt and confused.

Here is some food for thought. Most people marry someone of equal attractiveness. So if is she says her husband is not that attractive then she must not have been able to provide much “prime” DNA either. If she thinks she is attractive because she is sleeping with attractive men, she really is clueless. I knew plenty of ugly girls that spent time under the bleachers with some “verile” football players

Evolution doesn’t tell us how we should behave, it merely tells us how we got here. Genetic testing is falling rapidly in cost and within a few years people will be able to quickly read out their genetic profile for a few hundred dollars in their doctor’s office or even in a kiosk at the mall. They will do this for a variety of reasons, maybe just to satisfy their curiosity. Karen, your immoral behavior, the essence of which is lying, will be uncovered and the lives of you and everyone involved will turn into unending misery. All because you consciously chose to lie.

Karen, here is something to watch for: Little news stories reporting progress in reducing the cost of genetic sequencing. Every such story brings you and your “family” closer to your day of reckoning.

What a moronic justification by a sociopathic woman. I question your intelligence if you truly believe what you jve said and aren’t just playing a practical joke on us. These so called carnal instincts you cannot control shows your weak mind and lack of control. You are controlled by emotion and lust, no more complex than an animal. You are working to te detriment of the human race, not improving it’s genes.

Your children have done nothing to deserve the fate you have forced upon them. You clearly do not care for your husband, regardless of what you think. He sounds like a decent guy, he would be devastated if he found out. You care for no one other than yourself to expose this risk. It is laughable that you could try and justify this, you are a common whore, no more no less. You are no more a mother than you are a wife. Spreading your legs for strangers to fill you with sperm no more makes you a mother than speking vows you intend to break makes you a wife. You are a fraud. For what it is worth, I’ve known many women like you before my wife and I guarantee none of these so called alpha gorillas would go near you if your legs were closed. You don’t understand men.

I’ve read and reviewed this post and there’s inconsistencies. She said she “loves” her husband but there was a subtle emphasis on his money and resources. She has claimed that her reason for cheating was seeking superior genes. How does she know her own genetic code isn’t flawed? I’m not talking about physical appearance. Your logic is clearly flawed and comes from a place of narcissism. This woman clearly has a psychological disorder. Her answers to the questions during the interview are laughable. This womans rationalization for a possible sex addiction is transparent as well. Hi, Karen. If you happen to read this, you should get checked for veneral diseases. If you do, I hope the doctor wears rubber gloves and puts your “hoo-ha” in quarantine. Good day!

Most people have commented about what a horrible person Karen is for cheating etc, what shocks me more is that her excuse for doing all this is based on theories of evolution etc… Makes me laugh that someone would believe in a THEOry to that extent lol.

By the way, why isnt there a law that can put people like karen in jail? What shes doing is a crime. If i was a man and my wife did that to me Id disown her children and cut all ties, and also sue her.

Also, if you were cheating only for genetic superiority, point 1) you would have more than 2 children to better your chances of passing on your own genetic code. point 2) you wouldn’t maintain cheating relationships for any purpose other than procreation. Really, evolutionary psychology is a real force in all of our lives, it predicates almost everything we do, but if you’re going to use it as an excuse, then you really have to follow it all the way through to the end, which in this case I really hope includes a divorce, that activates a pre-numptual agreement that is based on the idea of fidelity, leaving her in a gutter, with all her precious, genetically superior children, with nothing.

This woman should stand trial as what she is doing should be a crime, my only hope is that this cherade holds up long enough for the children to grow into self-sustaining adults so that when “Daddy” takes their skank whore mother to the cleaners they will be financially unaffected as the children though products of this morally bankrupt situation are not in any way responsible!

When I was 23, I had a one night stand (turned into a 3 night stand) with a very pretty 41 year old woman.
It turned out, she used me for my sperm. She was happily married for i think 8 years or so, but her husband had a low sperm count. I guess the Dr’s said it was possible for him to impregnate her, but she was tired of waiting.
We did it maybe a total of 6 or 7 times over three days, and I found out 4 years later that I had gotten her pregnant.
I had no idea @ the time of her motives. I found aou al of the aformentioned from a girlfriend of hers that turned out to be the Aunt of my current girlfriend…How bizzare huh?

i’d love 2 hear you try to explain 2 your husband we you catch an std and when your kids fined out as trying to explain what happen why did this 2them maybe causing them to have problem with drugs& alcohol you could the reason why they have this problem just remember karma a bitch!

Karen is completely immoral. Now, if a woman wants to not be monogamous, fine; but she should be open and honest about it, not get married and sleep around behind her husbands back. What Karen should have done is either found someone who is willing to have an open marriage (which she emphatically is “out of the question”) or not get married at all. What she is doing is totally immoral. And when she was asked if she would be angry if she found out her husband was cheating on her, she completely dodged the question. She whores around with other men but letting him fuck other women is “out of the question” with her. What a selfish double standard. I feel sorry for her husband, not only because she is making a cuckold out of him, but he gave his virginity to her! Karen is a worthless whore and I hope she gets what she deserves!!

I am in no way exaggerating or being facetious when I say this woman needs psychiatric help. By the author’s quotes, she hits all the markers of a psychopath.

“That is the ultimate goal, leaving behind as many descendants as possible.” This is a lie. If she honestly believed this, she would have many, many more than two children already.

“If my son were to impregnate someone’s wife without the husband ever finding out, then that would give me a bonus grandbaby!” Her grandiose arrogance (again marking a psychopathic personality) assumes that her sons will do the fathering, and that they themselves will not be the victims of an extramarital affair.

“He was 36 when I took his virginity.” The wording “taking one’s virginity” is nearly always applied to a man acting on a woman. Psychopaths often enjoy their manipulations over others and the power they feel over their inferiors (i.e., everyone else). The fact that she’s a woman making such a bold and unusual claim only highlights this point.

As far as her being an “example” of evolutionary psychology, this is bunk. Empathy is part of our altruistic thinking and has allowed us to work cohesively and preserve each other as a working, thriving community of the human species. The lack of empathy in psychopaths is a failure of the reasoning capacities of the brain in the frontal and temporal lobes—a dysfunction that does not occur in the mentally healthy individual. Additionally, the most cursory review of Dr. Richard Dawkins’ theories on the “selfish gene” would inform the reader of the necessity of empathetic and altruistic behaviors to further enhance a gene pool. Her pseudo attempts to artificially manipulate her children’s genes are not an evolutionary drive, but a sign of a mutation failure: a dysfunctional brain.

My ex has done that to me.
Used me to have a kid from me rather than her “beloved husband”.
I can’t understand.
I loved her.
Told her I would only come back to her if she was serious about us and was gonna leave her husband.
Then she tricked me, used me.
Now my daughter is being raised by another man who I know has got less respect for women and children than I do.
But she told me to stay away from her “happy family”.
What am I supposed to do? Fight to get my child back and end up raising my daughter without a mother?
At least my daughter has a mother and dad at the moment.
But I’m so lost.
I understand Karen and my ex’s pragmatism, but where there’s love and money there’s way.
I earn 10 times more than she does, probably 6 times more than that guy.
I can understand she likes being with a guy who has no self esteem and easily manipulated. Hence why she stays with him. But I know she always loved me more than him.
What is sure is that she loves herself more than anyone else, and that the genes she’ll pass on will be lost 50%.
One day the full gene pool of the planet will be listed, and families will find out. Don’t kid yourselves.
And peer pressure to have kids is a joke.
She’s thinking solely for herself, she should go to the extent of that and not care at all what people might say then.
Here’s a clue.
Once my children will be 18, (majority at 18 in my country), she will know.
And she will chose.
I refuse to disrupt my kid’s childhood and what her mother think and feel was best for raising her.
But at the end my daughter is the only reason their couple is still together.
I know my ex’s history, and reason for thinking and behaving like that, so it is hard to judge and punish her. That doesn’t excuse it, but he past is what forced that situation and she wants to be disconnected from that past, and that was a chance for her to consolidate her future. What she forgot is that we are gods, and we know, remember, and will do same mistakes again until we learn and she hasn’t learned. She could have chosen love with me. Because I wasn’t ready when we first met didn’t mean I wasn’t ready when we conceived.
I could ask for DNA test. Bu the way she’s been avoiding it, way/time conception happened, can only be me.
She was no more having sex with her husband. While we always made love. I had not had a gf since we had broken up and until we made love again.
Even invented a previous lover to remove my guilt, promised she was serious.
This is a manipulative Black Widow. I insisted to use protection, and we did, but she spent way too long afterwards in the bathroom alone. That’s when I started to have doubts. Don’t think we are all dumb Karen. Most of us know, all of us feel it.
Only animals behave like that. And truth is that her past pushed her back to her animal instincts, protecting her babies.
Claiming back the baby, she will get rid of the useless husband, and find another victim.
Getting her back, she’d cheat on me.
Only solution is seeing a psy and treating her to make her realise the horrible things she did, forgive herself, and start making choices with her heart.
But i can’t force her to go.
When my kid will be adult legally, I’ll talk to her.
Cause I refuse my blood and genes to be induced a life with lies.
And there’s plenty things to be proud about me and her ancestors.
Can’t even believe she chose that cheating douche of husband over me…
Am not only a dick you know?!

As a guy with an IQ of 137, you should tell her husband bro. Have unequivocal proof though when you do, so she cant turn it around on you. Videotape your next sexual encounter or show him your emails or something, have them printed out with you.

When planning to meet him, don’t tell him all at once- pique his curiosity so he meets. Say “hey im a man who has something you really would want to hear about your wife, some provable, valuable information that you cannot live without knowing. meet me at X restaurant and ask for *my name* at the counter at X time on X day (tomorrow), and we’ll sit down and talk.”

Then tell him and show him all the proof.

When they divorce, its better for everyone- and they will divorce, that’s almost guaranteed. The kid isn’t his. When they divorce, she will run to you.

After reading this article, Karen feel unapologetic about banging other guys and getting preggers with them, yet she condemns her husband were he to do the same thing for the same reasons…Especially being completely discreet and dishonest about it… I really hope her husband is doing the same thing, after all, I’m sure he could find a woman with better genes than this “Karen”.

Justifying one’s actions with evolutionary biology backed up with no facts is one of the lowest things you can do.

Hahaha! Oh, wow.
So, what more can really be said about this beastess, She abuses the hell out of the Naturalistic Fallacy without understanding the science behind her statements and the implications of her actions. She honestly thinks she loves her husband because he provides her with emotional support (listens to her vain prattering) and she wants for no one else (because men with any sort of self-respect stop listening to her bs long before she’s done). She is quite the head case, but there’s honestly nothing more to say about her, especially since I have no idea what she looks like and I don’t know whether she is really, really too hot to be with her husband or whether she looks like Eric Cartman in drag. What hasn’t been addressed too much is where her husband may be asking for it. He doesn’t DESERVE it, he just shouldn’t be surprised. I’ll explain…

Scenario A) The Cersei Lannister: The scenario implies that Karen is absolutely gorgeous, like a super-model gold digger, while her hubby is average looking which would be ugly to her. Karen is certainly a vain whore, but society has pretty much encouraged her to be so. She’s an animal who has become devoid of humanity due to being placed upon a pedestal and given everything she wants. Her actions are not moral but they’re understandable. In this case, the hubby might be a wealthy stock broker, doctor, etc. who never understood the whole “out of your league” idea. Just because the guy didn’t lose his virginity until the age of 36 doesn’t mean he was a complete sweet-heart. He very well might have been waiting for “the perfect 10″ to give it up to (Yes, I do know men like that who have maintained their virginity into their 20’s because their waiting to lose it to the “hawt” chick they’ll get when they make their fortunes. Karen is not justified at all and is still a dirty whore who was waiting for the dip-shit, average guy who would worship and provide her with all the money she needs. However, hubby brought it upon himself by not searching for someone within his own league. It was inevitable the something like this would happen (though not necessarily as bad as raising children that are not his).

Scenario B) The Whatever, Whatever, I Do What I Want!: This implies Karen is a rather homely woman with a severe entitlement complex brought on by banging dozens of men she deems attractive over the course of her life without comprehending that men will fuck just about ANYTHING! At this stage she believes that she is Cersei. but she obviously is not. As such, she picked a man who was desperate for anything to just keep up appearances. Hubby is homely in this case, and has such low self-esteem that he probably knows about Karen’s cheating but is so afraid that he can’t get anything else and is terrified of being alone that he stays with Karen and lets her do what she wants! Hence the title.

My main point is not that the husband deserves what he gets or that Karen is not a FILTHY WHORE. It is to demonstrate that the hubby is an enabler in this case, and may be causing his own potential suffering by either not playing within his league, or by not having the self-respect to leave an abusive, immature bitch.

Oh, man. Karen, sadly, justifies the fears of many misogynists who are terrified by the prospect of “liberated” women. “If this is what we men get for the fruits of our labors,” they’d state “then no wonder we kept them locked away in the house all the time!”

I blame the husband for having all his chips in one pot(just worrying about making money)he only has sex with her once A MONTH!?? HAHAHA you have got to be DOUCHING ME! thats not even a healthy sexual relationship he doesnt even have a sex drive to reproduce! she is right her husband is weak and the fact that he cannot even pay enough attention to see the signs she playing him like that he deserves it i see why you have such strong belief and pride in your “cheating” karen. Aient cheatin if ya dont get caught rite?? Just be careful though most whores who cheat get real cocky and eventually they slip up…eventually i said.all because you straight now that dont mean your ass aient gonna get caught. Till then.. have fun. By the way now i think about it he must be a old ass dude. no young man with wealth is gonna have a low sex drive like that. just saying

Its just a cheap excuse for her to be a whore, it’s clearly that the woman lacks self control and can’t keep her legs closed because she is a product of a society that puts women on a pedestal. If what her partner is not enough then why is she milking his money?

“An open relationship with my husband? No way. One of the main reasons I married him is his ability to provide me and my children with the resources we need. I don’t want to share my husband’s time and money with other women. That is out of the question.”

Taking from “karen” and her theory here. If her theory goes that women look for strong genetic material for their offspring while looking for “provider” males to rear the child – the same could be said for men. Her one sided “I don’t want to share my husband” is an irony when it comes to the theory of strong genetic seeking.

Under her theory her husband should be looking for a better woman to bear his children with better genetics too. This one sided thinking of hers with her being able to do as she pleases while putting at risk her husband’s health, her children’s health and her own by sleeping around with other men is an unsound practice. I believe in informed choice. As in, her husband has the right to know what kind of person he has married – obviously she presented herself as a person with morals and fidelity at the time of marriage. It was her responsibility to tell her partner that this is who I am, this is how I function before entering into a marriage contract (and isn’t a marriage a contract in definition). She has basically null and voided her marriage contract with her husband.

I think people like “karen” are undisciplined, immoral people who use excuses for self esteem issues, impulse control issues and just plain don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves. Her children will one day question what she has done, they will find out what she has done and that is going to come back on her in a very bad way. It will destroy her relationships with her children and in the end what will she have taught them? Betrayal, heartbreak and selfishness.

That is not a role model or mother (or wife), that is a whore making excuses to try and justify her actions and quell the guilt of what she has done and will continue to do. Prime example of self sabotage and gas lighting herself.

Her premise is very elementary, in reality life is more sophisticated. The children will somewhat suffer by never knowing their true fathers. The children will not be successful with money etc., because obviously the mates karen chose were “attractive” not intelligent and not wealthy. Also the idea of leaving behind many kids to duplicate here on earth, once we have died is not smart. Last time i checked people struggle on earth. I mean look at her marathon efforts. She does things this way because she doesnt know a thing about business, investments or real science. So she is not a victim of economics but a solid theif under the guise of evolutionary theory.

This woman sounds like she would be better off joining the Khmer Rouge! Have lots of babies with blonde hair and blue eyes and start from the year zero! And i love how she refuses to answer the question about “what if your husband was cheating on you?”. She was like “nope, not possible”. You’d be surprised, sunshine He is just as much of a sexual being as you are!

What a completely immoral selfish bitch, and such a grotesque apathetic Darwinian outlook that she has. I seriously empathise with her poor husband, frittering his life away married to what is basically a succubus and he hasn’t got the faintest idea. So much for her wanting to “leave behind as many descendants as possible”. If she truly believes that’s the main purpose of life, why is she depriving the man she loves of doing the same? If I was in his situation and found out what she was really like, it would completely and utterly destroy me.

Interestingly enough, my MM wouldn’t mind having more children specifically FOR better genes. He’d prefer taller, more athletically inclined children. A case of a man in an affair wishing for extra children with a certain layout of DNA. Surprise!

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Completely insane. By her logic- it would be perfectly fine if her husband ripped her to shreds if he finds out because he would be “embracing his subconscious desires.” Darwinism back-firing, but it was fun while it only worked for her selfishness, I can’t believe people even entertained this stupidity with an ounce of respect.

What about the married men she’s cheating with, they aren’t completely innocent in the matter. Or is it okay for men to do whatever they want? You male commentors probably impregnante ill-legitimate children by the dozen. Is what Karen is doing really any different? It’s more like evening the playing field. It takes two to tango.

I don’t care about evolutionary psychology; Paternity Fraud should be illegal. She is thieving this man’s resources.

She also sounds like a complete ignoramus; She said her husband was successful and capable, he is successful financially, probably educated and pretty much won at life, so how can he ‘genetically unfit’? Did he have some kind of recessive gene or familial history of disease? Doubt she ever even contemplated that, she was just choosing these ‘genetically fit’ men based on looks alone.

“Nature wants us to mate with strong, virile men who can beat the **** out of the other men, have strong immune systems and produce the highest quality DNA sperm. But these types of testosterone driven men rarely, if ever, make good long-term partners.”

If these men do not make good long-term partners and providers than they are not fit for the progression of our species!

She is so selfish. She should at least tell her husband that he can have other women. But no, that would risk her losing her secure lifestyle. So what? Get a job and get your own lifestyle and leave the poor guy out of it. I feel sorry for the husband he is the biggest chump alive, through no fault of his own.

Utterly disgusting behavior, and a thoroughly worthless and reprehensible human being. This women is a selfish user, only concerned with getting what she wants. It’s clear she has no understanding of the biological sciences, and is simply cherry picking faulty tidbits of information to justify her actions. The worst part is that the poor sap she’s leeching from has probably been conditioned to think he has no other options.

What a self-justifying bitch. All this genetic bullshit is just to make yourself feel better about what you’re doing. You’re worse than an animal– not only do you act on pure instinct and lust, you’re calculating and deceiving. I seriously feel bad for your husband and hope that karma bites your ass. And I wonder what your children will think of you if they ever knew their mother was such a disgusting whore.

Wouldn’t it be great if the husband, who she thinks is this clueless wimp, is secretly out fucking 18-year-olds? Hey, it’s just his evolutionary drive to spread his genes among the best females, right?