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Comment by Skunkport

A fun if slightly frustrating achievement. You get to go on the roll course as a daily with Golden Lotus, got it the first time today, you're not sent to this NPC by anyone, he's at the west side of the setting sun garrison.

The roll course is basically a race, there's stacking speed boosts, oil slicks that slow you down, barriers and ramps. It took me a few attempts to get the layout of the course and practice but you don't need to have a perfect run, on the achievement run I missed 1 or 2 speed boosts and hit 2 oil slicks. At the start it seems really easy...but remember, those speed boosts stack, by the time you get near the end you're going seriously fast and the slightest error can send you flying off the side of the wall or stuck on a barrier!

Comment by uriahworld

This was a very fun daily, took about 7 tries to nail it right and get this achievement.

Comment by ArgentSun

One thing that helped me shave those last few seconds off was jumping. Once you get to 10-12 stacks or so, there are some segments of the wall where a well-timed (and directed) jump can save you a lot of time and guarantee that you won't hit any oil patches.

EDIT: Something else that might help you. Getting too many stacks may actually do your more harm than good. In my estimate, anything between 12-15 stacks should be enough. More stacks make it more difficult to maneuver, and you may even get to the point where you reach an oil patch's location before the game client can load it. Don't overdo it.

Comment by ArgentSun

This method has worked for me , basically right before you cross the line unclick your speed buff so you go over the finishing line with no speed buffs at all.

Comment by Glakhmed

I worked on this for well over an hour. As stated above, you do NOT have 70 seconds of race time, you have about 65 once the rolling actually starts. You want to make sure you get as many speed boots as possible. Don't worry if you have to fail the quest and start over to find a good path, and make sure you utilize jumping over obsticles.

The hardest part by far is close to the end. The wall has some twists to it and by that point, you have so many stacks that effective manuvering gets tricky. Jumping an obsticle can easily jump you off the wall at this point. There is also a portion of the curved wall towards the end that looks like you can jump over it. You can't. If you try, you might notice that you have the right positioning and velocity, but it simply ports you back to the quest giver if you go outside the confines of the wall. Another tricky part is where you have to jump the broken portion of the wall. Even though many times I was aimed straight across, it would push me to the right and off the wall. Going up the ramp on the left side while aiming straight worked for me. Before you land on the other side of the broken wall, you can aim yourself to pick up the speed boots that are on the right hand side, right across the broken wall.

I completed the race MANY times within the time limit. I've had several with 2 seconds left, a couple with 3, a couple with 5 or 6, and TWO races completed with 7 seconds left! Still no achievment. I tried a couple suggestions posted above. Right clicking off the debuff did not work for me. I tried this a couple times, mostly earlier in the race to get rid of the speed boost to learn the track better. The speed buff never went away, though the buff icon did. When I hit another speed boost, the correct # of stacks simply appeared. I also tried anticipating needing to turn at the end and going under the finish flag twice, again to no avail.

In the end, what worked for me was simply pushing the "S" (walk backwards) key right as I crossed the finish line. The quest and race is actually fun. Going for the achievment was not. Hope this helps!

Comment by coolight

I wonder how you could not get this achievement, all you need to do is to control your character via mouse (left and right hold together). I've done it on the first go, having never seen it before.

Also, tilting your head left and right is a great help, as usual in racing games.

Comment by Jollef

I believe this is a reference to the game Rock of Ages

Comment by jostor

You can track the achievement and you'll see how much time you have left. This achievement won't be too easy, once you get up to speed staying on the wall and avoiding the bad stuff is not easy.

Comment by migit128

If you do not get credit for the achievement, try turning around and rolling over the finish line again. I beat the clock by 8-10 seconds 3 times in a row and didn't get credit. Rolling back over the finish line gave me the achievement.

Comment by humbenaruto

OK srly ppl i dont know why u guys say this is so freaking hard when it isnt....lol i just got it on my first try :P

i guess ill give my thanks to all those NFS games i played over the years lol

GL to u guys.

Comment by Lightbrand

The most frustrating part of this achieve isn't its difficulty, it's not hard at all, what's random about this is, if you did your run properly, you can beat it with 10sec+ left.

However since you're traveling so fast, 3/4 times the game won't register you went past, then if you do a 180 and it still doesn't register you roll off the wall...

Comment by Squidink

Scrolling out helped me a lot. Don't overthink things and try to jump too many things. I found it honestly easier to just stay on the ground and be prepared to move around the boards rather than hope I land my jump correctly. Don't overdo it with the stacks, I'd say anything over 15 is just too much hassle. I did this on my fourth try by simply using small movements and not drastically trying to get speed boosts or ramps :) Good luck!

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Comment by zim57398

This one can be tricky. You need to grab every speed boost you possibly can to make it. Also use your mouse to steer. Trust me, by the end keyboard turning (if you do that) will not be able to react fast enough. The parts near end can be the trickiest part, as there are several wooden medians in close proximity relatively that will stop you dead in your tracks if you don't avoid them. Another big thing to note is that the long jump in the middle of the course can shoot you off the wall if you don't aim properly, so keep your path dead center.

Also make sure to track the achievement, it gives a handy timer to show you how much time you've got left.

Also, in one of the biggest FU's in gaming since the dragon in Diddy-Kong racing started before the announcer said go, the timer starts counting down before you even start moving.

Comment by Akaeya

It took me a while to get it, but it's actually kinda fun in my opinion. I think they fixed the achievement to where it'll register the first time you cross the finish line now.

A few tips that helped me out:

- As Squidink mentioned, towards the end of the course, try to avoid the ramps. They have a nasty habit of catapulting you off the course if you don't aim correctly.- Once you get so many stacks of speed and everything starts to become a blur, the oil patches can actually HELP you in the harder to navigate area's. It slows you down long enough so you can aim yourself and get ready to redirect for the next obstacle. I used this tactic near the end in the longer stretch of zig-zagging barricades. Careful to avoid them for as long as you can, though. If you hit too many, you won't make it in time to get the achievement, and the speed stacks WILL fall off if you hit too many in a row.- I tried jumping over obstacles using the space bar, but it honestly did nothing but frustrate me more. Again, if you jump with too much speed, you're more likely to jump off the course instead.- Avoid the wall like the plague. It's easy to get stuck on one of the gaps.- Don't get too focused on what you're avoiding at that moment. Try to look ahead if you can.- Practice. Learning the course, even by just going through a few times with a few speed buffs, helps a lot.

Comment by Furydeath

The hardest this about this is GETTING THE DAILY. I've been exalted for 3 weeks now still yet to ever see this.

Comment by OldWolf2

What are the prerequisites? You must be Revered with Golden Lotus, and have done the non-daily quests that become available when you hit Revered (collect the Thunder King's items).

Which days is this achivement available on?This achievement is only available when Roll Club: Serpent's Spine is offered. This quest is only offered when a certain set of random dailies is picked by the server. One of the three hubs must be be Gate of the Setting Sun.

There are 7 possible hubs (other than Golden Stair), but I'm not sure which combinations are possible, or their relative frequency. I have only ever had #1 = Golden Stair, #2 = Mistfall (either state) or Whitepetal (either state), #3 = all 7 options possible.

Today (first time I got Roll Club offered), I had Whitepetal Lake (Invasion) as the second hub, and GSS as the third.

When is the achievement available on the day? You must clear the first two quest hubs for the day.Roll Club was available for me after doing the first two of the above quests (I never did the last two). I forgot to check its availability immediately before doing the first two though.

Can you try the achievement multiple times? Yes, after finishing the quest, you can do the roll course again on the same day by talking to Kelari Featherfoot. If you talk to her on the wrong day, or before the quest becomes available, she tells you the first two rules of Roll Club instead.

How do I track my time? Find the achievement in the Achievements UI and shift-click it. Then, when you start the course , you will see a timer counting down.

I'm not getting credit for the achievement? I found that I got credit when I finished with 8 seconds remaining, but did not get credit on attempts with 6 or fewer seconds remaining. Some posts on here suggest that the finish line may be bugged; however, on my successful attempt I blasted through the line and rammed into the last turret behind it (stopping there). I had done this on unsuccessful attempts.

My conclusion is that the timer is just bugged and you have to do it with 8 seconds or more remaining.

How do I improve my time? Use the mouse to turn (hold RMB and move mouse left or right). You can jump too. Hit all the ramps and avoid the oil, get all of the first 12 or so speed buffs.

Comment by dangerfox

For those who are exalted with Golden Lotus and not doing their dailies any more, but still need this achievement: You HAVE to do all three sets of dailies before this quest is available from Kelari Featherfoot.

Additionally, this quest only becomes available after you do the first two quests at Setting Sun Garrison. Despite the fact that you do not get a breadcrumb quest to see this guy, you can not see this quest until after you do Survival Ring: Blades/Survival Ring: Flame and The Battle Ring.

Comment by yobigmac

Just finished today with some new info...

Even if you finish the course in the alotted time, if you roll over and oil spill you will not get credit. Multiple times I finished the course with 10 seconds to spare but still didnt get credit because I ran over 1 oil spill.

Comment by draenen

I wouldn't have minded getting this achievement quite so much if the questgiver didn't keep telling me to slow down and savor life every time I clicked on him to try again.

Also if you connect to your router via wireless and are having issues with the achievement registering for you, try plugging in; I came in with seconds to spare a half-dozen times and I didn't get the achievement until I went wired. Might be related, might not, but it's worth a shot if it's frustrating you.

Comment by MooKitty

The timer is starting before I go.

Comment by alysrianxian

Actually, I am exalted with the Golden Lotus and I did NOT need the quest in order to get this achievement. After you have done the quest ONCE, he has a chat bubble that says "Let's roll!". Click on it, and complete the achievement as stated above. You'll still get the achievement WITHOUT the quest. I also did not need to turn around and pass through the finish line again. Achievement procced as soon as I passed the finish line.

Note: I hit 1 tar, and had over 20 stacks. I had some issues with my 20 stacks and falling off the bridge part, but after 2 more tries I had it down where I didn't fall off the course.

Comment by dadoggisout

as i've searched a bit and found nobody has posted it i will; i got fulled at first and turned in my quest having meet the timer and thinking i'll get the achievement when i complete the quest; i was finally able to get it after i talked to the NPC again and had 6 seconds remaining on the in-game timer. good luck!

Comment by blewer

just did it today, you don't have to do the chain quest to it, it just has to be available. didn't have quest on me or anything.

Comment by Kittysunlover

Something that I don't think has been pointed out yet is that you don't have to roll directly through the speed buffs in order to pick them up. I just earned this achievement - don't wish to count how many attempts it took - but I found that it was much easier once I realized I didn't have to go quite so far off the center track in order to pick up speed buffs. (Or, as well, if you are trying to avoid them, you'll have to be farther away than you might think). I'm not sure what the exact range is, but my toon (a female blood elf) could roll past a buff with a space at least as wide as two of her between her and the edge of the little floating icon, and still get a refresh/added stack of speed.

I'd also like to chime in that it took me three attempts wherein my timer still had time on it before the achievement took - the first I had 1 second to spare, the second was 2 seconds, and the one where I finally got the achievement credit, I had 5 seconds to spare.

Good luck!

Comment by zuuperman

It looks like the quest doesn't need to be active. I currently have done none of the daily quests, but i'm able to talk to Kelari Featherfoot, and start the roll course. He is not marked, but you're able to start.

Comment by mimee21

I can confirm that you have to do the first 2 quests at the Garrison to have this quest show up! I always check before hand and he did not have the quest today.. But after getting to Garrison and doing their first two quests which were surviving the ring and killing 20 pandas.. It became available.

Comment by Hilaeira

I was just able to complete this achievement after several attempts. I finished with only 2 secs left on the timer and was given credit immediately upon crossing the finish line. I don't recall the amount of stacks of boost I had but I do know I hit 2 oil spills along the way.

I also did not do a single Golden Lotus daily today. I just walked up to the NPC and selected "Let's Roll." However, I have done this daily once in he past so I cannot confirm whether or not you need to have done it once before being able to do it whenever you want.

Comment by Calculus

Like many other commenters, I've been exalted for a while but have yet to see this daily.

Anyone would think the first rule of Roll Club is: You do not talk about Roll Club.

Comment by MaBaer

I have read everyone of these posts trying to figure this one out and it is impossible because some say you DON'T need to do any of the hubs, but need to be revered with GL and have done it once. Some say yes you need to do the hubs, some say just the first two quests at GSS. I have been exhalted for months now and don't recall seeing this one ever. I have done the hubs for the last several days and today it was GSS with ring survival n kill 20 pandas--I did them all and no quest, nor is there any sorta of chat bubble on him. I have also done the collect Thunder King stuff. The only thing I have not done is the Survive the Crumbling Hall ach.

I have no clue and do not relish the idea of doing all the dailies in hopes of seeing this one : (

Comment by Jynxette

As of this patch I tried 5 times today, each got to the finish line in under 65 seconds, no achievement awarded. I haven't tried the turning around yet, but from simply crossing the line, nothing.

UPDATE: It possibly may be bugged. I did register a finish for the quest, and turned it in before the rolling restarts for the servers. When I tried again after the restarts, I finished in 65 seconds and was awarded the achievement.

Comment by M4rsala

The achievement can be completed when the quest itself is not available, but the rolling course is.

Comment by Myrslok

This achievement, while doable, is frustratingly buggy. It counts the time from the moment you say "Let's roll" until the game decides to register your finish. And that has a large amount of randomness attached to it... Several times I've just rolled across the finish line, through the gate house, and on out into the water, without it registering. Other times I've finished with a few seconds to spare, my char has stopped, but 5-7 seconds elapses before the screen starts to fade, and no achievement. So, anyone who wants to get this should know that learning the course is only half of it, the rest is luck.

Comment by Dreddful

After at least 100 runs, I finally got the achievement. I was doing the run almost perfectly more often than not, finishing with 7 or 8 seconds to spare, but not getting credit. I finally put my graphics to the lowest possible settings and that did the trick (my system's not exactly new).

Comment by boomboomsock

Initially start off with the clock running, but it was surprisingly easy, and managed to complete with 7 seconds to spare.

Some tips that might help:- Be careful where you aim yourself before using a ramp.- You don't need to run directly over a speed boost to gain the power up, just brushing past it will gain the boost.- You should allow yourself the option to run over a oil spill if you want to regain some control, as you will still have time left.- I went over the first ramps leading up the large jump, but after the jump I maneuvered past all obstacles (including ramps*) while still continuing to gain the speed boosts.*The reason I didn't use any further ramps was that the speed I was travelling at there was no way I'd be able to control where I'd land (possibly over the edge)

*I have submitted a screenshot to show proof of time.*

Comment by Mercuryanka

Don't get fooled like me by thinking that this quest would be given to u as the continuation of the quest phase. I had quests in Setting Sun Garrison and thought that this quest would pop up at the same place where I finished previous quests from that phase. But this quest is given by Kelari Featherfoot (phase 3), u may easily skip the ! mark on ur minimap if u don't know that only he gives the quest (I'm a hunter and have alot of stuff on my minimap, so I didn't notice the mark at all). So u need to check ur minimap and move a bit north from the Garrison (to the road) to see if it's available or not!

Comment by syranna

Finished with 20 stacks of speed w/e its called ;)

Comment by Beruk

I finally got this achievement just now after 90 minutes of trial and error, so I'd like to offer a few tips on how to actually run the course within the allotted time.

Considering this daily is rather rare, you may not have had the chance to familiarize yourself with the route to the point needed for this achievement. So, start by going over to YouTube and searching for Roll Club videos. Pick one that looks good and watch it repeatedly - five to ten times should do the trick. Don't skip this step! My finalized route was almost identical to the one I'd watched, and, believe me, it was extremely efficient.

Before you begin practicing, make sure there are no programs hogging your memory or connection speed (no torrents!). If necessary, lower your graphics to get decent fps (just remember to leave Distance at "Fair" in order to have a clear view of the course).

Also, make sure you're psychologically ready. You're going to have to deal with a ton of botched attempts. More often than not, your jumps will not land you where you expect them to; the only way to learn to calculate them correctly is through practice. A handful of times (7 for me), you'll finish the course with time to spare, but won't be given credit (yup, the achievement is slightly bugged). Dust yourself off and try again. And don't forget to take breaks. Go farm Nalash Verdantis or Karr the Darkener or something every few tries.

Okay, time to roll! Initially, I was wary of getting too many speed buffs, and would run into pitch pools to slow down and regain control. Don't do that! Try to avoid the pitch pools and to get as many buffs as you can so that your eyes and brain can get accustomed to the speed. Once I got used to it, getting 15+ stacks was imperative to making my movement feel as smooth as possible - going slower simply felt choppy.

At this point, you need to work on the strategy you'll follow. Be very specific when plotting your route! Decide when to turn/angle your toon and how steeply, when to jump, which speed buffs to get. You won't have time to make these decisions during the run, so instead you need to make automatic movements of them (I have no doubt that I'll be dreaming of rolling on a wall tonight). Once you do that, it's all downhill - all that remains is smoothing out the rough spots (i.e. practice).

It sounds like a lot of work for a single achievement, and it is. It requires a set of skills that we're not normally asked to use in WoW. And like any new skill, we need to train to be able to use it successfully (unless you're some sort of genius, in which case, why are you reading this?). It's not as if you're going to gain anything other than bragging rights and 10 measly achievement points. Still, after all that hard work, it felt pretty damn good finishing that course with ease, even when the achievement bugged out.

Good luck to all you rollers!

Comment by Palisis

This achieve is so bugged I cant even begin to describe it. In over 30 attempts, I flew past the finish line. If you keep rolling past the finish line, yea youre not getting credit for crossing the finish line. If you see chat channels changing while jumping too high, yup, youre disqualified. Good luck getting passed this $%^&ty coded achieve.

Comment by Grenmoor66

FFS.....first time I EVER saw this daily show up today (June 1st) ....I've grinded 3 toons through these dailies and now I feel a little excitement in finally doing this and getting another achiv....but its bugged.

Why would you make an achiv listing 70 seconds when some of those precious seconds are spent loading the new spot? poor work blizz! You can do better. Make it 60s and have the timer START when you START rolling.....seems logical, but apparently whoever made this one had his/her head up their ass.

I used the in game timer and made it (at mad speeds) of 64 and 65s but nothing. I did one without the timer and seemed faster (by far) and nothing. Someone said turning about and going through the finish line again....but that didn't see to do anything.

Sad sad sad.....I was hoping to clear the Quest/Pand. achivs and never seeing this one was more than a little annoying.

Fix the obvious problems blizz!

Comment by RedStarWarrior

I started the timer way back when I selected the option "Let's Roll" and I still managed to finish the course (and have it register as complete) prior to reaching 70 seconds and I did not get the achievement. This is one of many achievements I've found to be hit or miss as to whether they register properly and it's a bit irritating.

Comment by d0ttie308

I had problems completing this one I even opened up a ticket finally after months of attempting about once a day, I just got it out of NO where. I did skip a couple of speed boast which I usually don't and I saw that I rolled by a NPC I noticed that I stopped right after the Finish line and was awarded the achievement I was shocked! Happy but shocked btw there has been a few hotfixes since my ticket. Hope this helps...

Comment by madmaxxp

Tested today, bugged for long time (no timer while following it)Earned it at first atempt, maybe it work now.

Comment by GoRozZo

To complete achievement Roll Club just get as much speed buffs as you can, avoiding all oil spills and wood ramps. Control your motion by mouse (not keyboard). This video is for people who have some difficulties.:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9wUxpuTL4

Comment by aslaja

Indeed the finish line has some issues as it does not register you when you roll through it at the maximum speed. Last night I spent about 40 minutes there determined to get the achievement because I did not want to wait for the next time the quest comes up. Most of the time I ran through the finish line and did not stop rolling. Turning around is difficult as when you run into wall you easily get shot off the wall while trying to turn at that monstrous speed. And you lose the precious seconds anyway. A couple of times I actually kept rolling back and forth through the finish line and nothing, had to jump off the wall.

The only advice here is be patient and keep trying, no special tactics, just get the speed buffs and avoid the oil spills, jumping can help (I was not able to jump when I was running uphill).Most of my attempts failed just because the finish line did not see me but I got the achievement in the end, when I did nothing different from the previous tries.

Good luck!

Comment by patrenn

After an hour of trying, i finally threw in the towel. The mini-game is glitchy, and repeatedly rerunning the first 30 seconds (very easy) to get to the last 30 seconds (very hard) will give you a migraine. Kudos and respect to those who managed to capture the achieve. Unless you're a hardcore achieve-hound, I'd file this one under "not worth the effort."

Comment by epicmage

Are you kidding me? This achieve took maybe 4 attempts....I didn't even know about this quest until coming here, went and it was up today. Took a total of maybe....10 minutes to complete.

Got speed boosts and at parts where you have objects blocking you like:

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the wood...i just jumped over em...-shrugs-

Comment by Grumbleweed

Again! Again!

Comment by Zwizzer

They see me rollin' ...

Comment by wowpathos

One nice and sunny maintenace morning in the Vale...

"Taran, its Kelari, hurry get over here, hes...hes back!"A huge puff of white smoke billows up from the ground. Taran appears in a white crane stance peering out from under his rice hat and firmly says, "Look here Temuja, no rolling for you...I thought I made myself clear last Tuesday on this subject."Temuja drops to his knees begging, "Pleeeeasssee, I promise to spawn more often if you let me."

Comment by TheManCalledZee

As of Patch 5.4, Kelari Featherfoot is at coordinates 18.2, 63.6. This NPC will offer the quest Roll Club: Serpent's Spine, irrespective of whether you have done any other Golden Lotus quests that day yet. I am exalted, so I cannot confirm if you still need to be at least revered in order to be able to access this quest.

You can complete the quest and still talk to the NPC to roll again. I got my achievement after completing the quest, by simply talking to Kelari Featherfoot, and select the (only available) dialogue option of "Let's Roll."

Comment by Burnay

AS OF 5.4:

You no longer have to complete the other Golden Lotus daily quest to see if this daily is up. Just fly to him to check.

This is good news for the people (myself included) who never once had this daily come up all the way to exalted.

Comment by MiniMule

If you somehow manage to get stuck on the wood, I recommend aiming carefully and then jumping. I got stuck near the end, but this tactic provided me with a pretty decent speed boost (since I didn't have to go around anything) and I completed the achievement on my first successful completion of the course.

On a side note: Isn't it ironic that "the first rule of roll club is you don't talk about roll club", but when you complete it, WoW announces it to the world?

Comment by arucardsikk

In my case jumping didn't help at all once I got to a pretty good speed. Instead of jumping I only continued on the wall, as if there was no ramp at all, obviously getting me stuck in the obstacles.

I made a tactic in which I only maneuvered around the obstacles without jumping. In the end I finished with 8 seconds left to spare.

Comment by Oxithius

With Patch 6.0.2 the animation for your character seems to be bugged, so i have no idea where i'm going, have to wait for a fix to get the achievement