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Re: Did I miss it????

I've been thinking the same thing.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Did I miss it????

I haven't forgotten about it, but there are two reasons why I haven't written it. Well really 3 reasons.

1) I don't think anyone wants to read it. I know most of you are sick and tired of Ronnie, and that is why anytime I want to post something about Ron, I post it on Kingsfansforum. If you notice I haven't posted a word about Ron Artest in several days in here. I figure 95% of you just don't want to read it. And I can understand those sentiments.

2) For whatever reason I haven't felt like writing it. Maybe I've written everything I have to say on Ron over the years.

3) I really haven't had much time to write something like that, I could just throw something together, but if I do write it, I would want it to be at least decent.

So right now I am not planning on writing it. But it seems like there might be some demand for it. I really don't know what approach to take, what slant to put on it. Maybe I need to see a few Pacers games, and let things settle down a little. The strange thing is Ron has played so little the past season and a half, it just doesn't seem strange that he's gone.

Re: Did I miss it????

Re: Did I miss it????

So right now I am not planning on writing it. But it seems like there might be some demand for it. I really don't know what approach to take, what slant to put on it. Maybe I need to see a few Pacers games, and let things settle down a little. The strange thing is Ron has played so little the past season and a half, it just doesn't seem strange that he's gone.

This who thing reminded me of this:

Janice, I apologize to you if I don't seem real eager to jump into a forced awkward intimate situation that people like to call dating. I don't like the feeling. You're sitting there, you're wondering do I have food on my face, am I eating, am I talking too much, are they talking enough, am I interested I'm not really interested, should I play like I'm interested but I'm not that interested but I think she might be interested but do I want to be interested but now she's not interested? So all of the sudden I'm getting, I'm starting to get interested... And when am I supposed to kiss her? Do I have to wait for the door cause then it's awkward, it's like well goodnight. Do you do like that ***-out hug? Where you like, you hug each other like this and your *** sticks out cause you're trying not to get too close or do you just go right in and kiss them on the lips or don't kiss them at all? It's very difficult trying to read the situation. And all the while you're just really wondering are we gonna get hopped up enough to make some bad decisions? Perhaps play a little game called "just the tip". Just for a second, just to see how it feels. Or, ouch, ouch you're on my hair. -Jeremy Grey (Wedding Crashers)

Re: Did I miss it????

I haven't forgotten about it, but there are two reasons why I haven't written it. Well really 3 reasons.

1) I don't think anyone wants to read it. I know most of you are sick and tired of Ronnie, and that is why anytime I want to post something about Ron, I post it on Kingsfansforum. If you notice I haven't posted a word about Ron Artest in several days in here. I figure 95% of you just don't want to read it. And I can understand those sentiments.

2) For whatever reason I haven't felt like writing it. Maybe I've written everything I have to say on Ron over the years.

3) I really haven't had much time to write something like that, I could just throw something together, but if I do write it, I would want it to be at least decent.

So right now I am not planning on writing it. But it seems like there might be some demand for it. I really don't know what approach to take, what slant to put on it. Maybe I need to see a few Pacers games, and let things settle down a little. The strange thing is Ron has played so little the past season and a half, it just doesn't seem strange that he's gone.

Re: Did I miss it????

Unfortunately, Donnie, Isiah, Larry and Rick let the wounds fester so long and so deep... the chemo may take a long time and may, at times, feel worse than the cancer.

That's the real kicker to all of this - the four-year expiriment should've been stopped much, much earlier because now this team may be much closer to the lottery than contending. I'll say it again, Al's starting spot should never have been giftwrapped for Ron and he should never have been that contract extension - Ron's the player that should've been "last in line" of the six free agents in 2003 (not Brad Miller).

But now, it appears the cancer spread to other organs, including perhaps a good functioning PG and certainly a hotheaded, streaky swingman.

At some point in the past, they could've cut their losses on Ron and moved on without totally overhauling the team. They would've had a void to fill at SF, of course, but that was actually resolved in last season's draft. Now many of us think TPTB are fooling themselves if they think they're done trading. Of course, all they've really said is that they don't prefer to do any more in-season trades. Perhaps they have already resigned themselved to blowing the team apart this summer but realize they won't like the options that are available to them at the deadline.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Did I miss it????

Re: Did I miss it????

Jay, so everything bad with the Pacers started with Ron - he is responsible for everything.

What about the Pacers being only a 45 win team without Ron to begin with and the only reason they were a 61 wein team for one season was because of Ron's great play. Take him off that team and they win 45 games.

Re: Did I miss it????

Jay, so everything bad with the Pacers started with Ron - he is responsible for everything.

What about the Pacers being only a 45 win team without Ron to begin with and the only reason they were a 61 wein team for one season was because of Ron's great play. Take him off that team and they win 45 games.

Re: Did I miss it????

They were still rebuilding. That was a very young, immature, poorly coached team.

And there's always the Isiah factor.

They solved a few problems, and created an even bigger one.

Even after winning 61 games, there was a major meltdown that began in Miami series and plagued the team against Detroit. And we still don't talk about some of the goofy things that happened that season that were pushed to the backburned because the team was winning. Can we talk about Rick's decision just a few weeks into the job that he and Ron couldn't communicate? Remember, Ron was benched for conduct detrimental to winning that season. Can we talk about the goof circumstances around Ron's surgery, and the decision Ron conviently made without the team doctor's consent right after the ASG?

That team was anything but happy. 61 wins was a mirage. The high-water mark. As good as that team was capable of playing. They peaked. In Fleetwood Mac terminology, that was their "Rumour" album and then all of the internal turmoil that has been repressed has been flooding out the gates ever since.

So what if Ron gave you an extra 16 regular season wins that season? I'd rather have that team at 45 wins without Ron and then build the team correctly, on a solid foundation. Because now the team is probably much worse than a 45 win season.

You still think that injecting the cancer into the body was worth the risk because you enjoyed the early stages of the mutated creation. But there is a price to pay for taking such a high-stakes risk.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Did I miss it????

Jay, so everything bad with the Pacers started with Ron - he is responsible for everything.

What about the Pacers being only a 45 win team without Ron to begin with and the only reason they were a 61 wein team for one season was because of Ron's great play. Take him off that team and they win 45 games.

Death, Taxes & Uncle Buck falling back on his Magical 61 win season.

Let's assume you are correct, let's make that a 45 win season. That's still good enough to make the playoffs & it still probably good enough to lose to the Pistons in 6.

You do realize that when Ron did not play that season we had a better record with Al Harrington starting % wise than we did with Ron don't you?

Either way your barking up the wrong tree with me when it comes to talking about that season. I thought that was one of the most boring teams to watch that we've ever had. Other than the wins, I just didn't think much of that team.

Re: Did I miss it????

Jay, so everything bad with the Pacers started with Ron - he is responsible for everything.

What about the Pacers being only a 45 win team without Ron to begin with and the only reason they were a 61 wein team for one season was because of Ron's great play. Take him off that team and they win 45 games.

Naw. Your logic is flawed. Ron was there the previous season. JO was there. Tins was there. Reggie, Al, etc. Rick was the primary difference, not Ron. The team didn't experience a sudden burst of maturity over the course of one summer.