2. The hookup culture is mutually beneficial. Men complaining about sluts should reflect upon their own promiscuity before determining that this is wrong. If you have so many complaints about it, you may want to stop hooking up with random ‘sluts’.

The rest of anon’s response was equally moronic, but this is part I want to focus on. The hookup culture is not mutually beneficial. We know that because of hypergamy. It benefits most women, but only the most alpha of men. It’s a fundamentally unequal situation, but anon is insisting an unequal situation is equal. When you consider the belief most people have that “women want relationships” (which is true but only with the apex of men just like with hookups until they get desperate after 28 or so), the concept being presented here (unintentionally by anon) is that this is an equal situation, but men are benefiting from it more than women. In other words, this ended up being another case where a feminist said that equality only benefits men, which is something we have heard from feminists before.

This got me thinking about other times someone says a situation is equal between men and women when it really isn’t leading to “equality only benefits men”. When it comes to promiscuity we know because of hypergamy for every man that engages in it, several women do. This is because a wider cross section of women have a greater opportunity to engage in promiscuity than all but a small fraction of men. However, like the anon above, tradcons don’t recognize this and believe that this situation is equal too. We have all seen tradcons say that “men are just as sinful as women” even though when it comes to sexual sin, this isn’t the case. Since tradcons believe in “male leadership”, their belief in that men and women are equally sinning sexually turns into another case where equality benefits men only. Tradcons believes that the only reason women commit sexual sins (or any type of sins) is because a man “led” them into it. (This adds a new dimension to tradcon opposition to “equality”.)

Here’s the pattern we are seeing here:

Take a situation that is unequal where women benefit over men

Say that situation in question is “equal” between men and women

Attack equality (explicitly or implicitly through misdirection) so that it looks like the situation in question benefits men even though it really benefits women

This is how feminists and other misandrists make situations that benefit women look like they benefit men.

I’m curious: Where is your evidence for your claims here about hypergamy, particularly the claiim that promiscuity only benefits a small number of “alpha” men? Say, sociological or anthropological studies, something solid. (Citations of “game” blogs don’t count.) I ask this question in all seriousness; I often see these “truths” about hypergamy mentioned in the manosphere, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen any non-anecdotal evidence to back it up.

That doesn’t prove anything. STDs are more prevalant in women because it’s easier for women to get them, because of, you know, vaginas:

From the CDC:

A woman’s anatomy can place her at a unique risk for
STD infection, compared to a man.
•
The lining of the vagina is thinner and more delicate than
the skin on a penis, so it’s easier for bacteria and viruses
to penetrate
•
The vagina is a good environment (moist) for bacteria
to grow

I’ve been given anecdotal evidence, hypothetical evidence, and “evidence” from you that doesn’t prove what you say it proves. You can’t give me a single link to a study or article by someone outside the manosphere that backs up any of your claims in the OP?

It’s an online survey of his own readers, which makes it scientifically worthless, but i results if its results reflect reality even roughly they directly challenge the 80/20 rule. They don;’t show that 80% of men sit on the sidelines while 20% get all the sex. 75% of the men in his survey married.

Where is your evidence for your claims here about hypergamy, particularly the claiim that promiscuity only benefits a small number of “alpha” men?
Are there more male models or more female models in the world?
Which gender makes more money selling sex? Which gender makes more money with the “promise of sex if you pander to their whims”?
Why are there plenty of single mothers … who parent the children of a single man?
Why do male serial killers get more admirers than female ones?
Why are women entitled to alimony if they are equal to men?
Why do women reject paternity testing if they value intact families?
Why do more women than men, have STDs?
Why do women live longer than men, but get more healthcare funding?
Why are there so few female ditchdiggers and construction workers? If such work under the sun is bad for their skin, they can always work at night with the proper lighting.

Please answer those questions Mr. Futrelle.
As a seeker of truth you must be prepared to have shameful illusions shattered.

Are these questions supposed to be answers to my questions, or just a bunch of random MRA questions, some with questionable premises? Also, I already answered the STD one, and provided a citation even.

I wasn’t asking PMAFT random questions here, just asking him to provide some support for the things he said in his post. If he knows these things to be true, I’m not sure why it’s so difficult for him to provide evidence that actually backs up his statements.

No one else here has either. It’s all hypotheticals, anecdotal bullshit, studies that don’t actually prove what they’re supposed to prove, and now your questions.

It’s almost as if … PMAFT was spouting bullshit that you guys are happy to accept without proof because it reinforces your prejudices.

The only thing that bothers me about hookup culture is that females, and their male enablers, expect their choices to always come out for their personal benefit in perpetuity.

Reality:

1. If you like to hook up, more power to you, but you also have to accept that many desirable men may not perceive you as a long-term relationship prospect in the future.

2. The way you observe a man treating other women has a 95% chance of being the way he will treat you. If you hook up with a guy who only wants to hook up, don’t get butthurt (or accuse him of something sinister) if he quickly dumps you. Go find a man who wants something more long-term, if that’s what you want. You won’t “tame him.” That is a lie foisted on you by chick flicks.

3. If women are offering hookup culture, you can’t blame guys for taking advantage of it. Hookup culture is a nearly ideal sexual marketplace for desirable men. Serial monogamy is an ideal sexual marketplace for desirable women, and women are perfectly happy to ride it to full advantage.