Later in the interview, Shepherd sticks up for ’Ye’s sense of humor, since he has a reputation for looking pissed off:

“I know everyone thinks he’s so deep and serious, but he’s also so funny, like he has me rolling laughing and sometimes I’m like, Is this inappropriate that I’m laughing so hard? But he’s just so f***ing hilarious.”

In other entertainment news, Avril Lavigne is still alive, contrary to a popular conspiracy theory: