Although the fabric is nice, the fit on these panties is really odd. I am 5'9" size 18, and the panties fit higher in the front waist than they did in the back. This wouldn't be too bad if it was just a little thing, but these panties come up a good inch and a half above my waist in the front. A smaller size would not work, because they fit perfectly in the bum, and they are the right width. Really strange.