damn I still Still think shes alivethe thing that would freak me out isif she was being held in one of the hotels next to where the family is..this is such a small islandthey searched and searchedI can remember in most 'abduction' casesthat 'they' are found pretty damn close to where they were last seenthere was not alot of time for sloot to do muchhe was in school the next day2am to say 7am..?5 hourshow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

Thank you so much for answering my questurn. It's so good to know at least somebody is payin attention. I guess everbody else need to GO WATCH TV!

after viewing most of the soul beach fest pics from the whole week, i really think that JVDS and the K bros did whatever they did with her and then left her alive.....and that someone there for the fest in wahtever capacity (crew or guest) saw her all messed up and took advantage....

That could very well be! BUt, Why not fess up? Urine won't even admit he took her to Marriott beach.

well the reports today were stating that all 3 were questioned together and all 3 agreed on leaving her at beach in one way or another---you see any of that?

damn I still Still think shes alivehow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

I reaallllly hope she's alive, but I have my doubts. I hate to say this, but they could have thrown her in a dumpster. In that case, her body may never be found...

Thank you so much for answering my questurn. It's so good to know at least somebody is payin attention. I guess everbody else need to GO WATCH TV!

after viewing most of the soul beach fest pics from the whole week, i really think that JVDS and the K bros did whatever they did with her and then left her alive.....and that someone there for the fest in wahtever capacity (crew or guest) saw her all messed up and took advantage....

That could very well be! BUt, Why not fess up? Urine won't even admit he took her to Marriott beach.

We know only there simple facts..

She was last with them..Beach is the only consistent theme..and she's missing

well the reports today were stating that all 3 were questioned together and all 3 agreed on leaving her at beach in one way or another---you see any of that?

damn I still Still think shes alivethe thing that would freak me out isif she was being held in one of the hotels next to where the family is..this is such a small islandthey searched and searchedI can remember in most 'abduction' casesthat 'they' are found pretty damn close to where they were last seenthere was not alot of time for sloot to do muchhe was in school the next day2am to say 7am..?5 hourshow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

damn I still Still think shes alivehow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

I reaallllly hope she's alive, but I have my doubts. I hate to say this, but they could have thrown her in a dumpster. In that case, her body may never be found...

the mcdonalds dumpster that the sloot dad was seen at 3:30am..?that one..?

Thank you so much for answering my questurn. It's so good to know at least somebody is payin attention. I guess everbody else need to GO WATCH TV!

after viewing most of the soul beach fest pics from the whole week, i really think that JVDS and the K bros did whatever they did with her and then left her alive.....and that someone there for the fest in wahtever capacity (crew or guest) saw her all messed up and took advantage....

That could very well be! BUt, Why not fess up? Urine won't even admit he took her to Marriott beach.

We know only there simple facts..

She was last with them..Beach is the only consistent theme..and she's missing

well the reports today were stating that all 3 were questioned together and all 3 agreed on leaving her at beach in one way or another---you see any of that?

That interview with the magazine guy on Greta was whack! First of all, WE know Deepak is the older one. But what's the deal with the "source" that told about the interrogation? Jaron said Deepak picked him up, Deepak told him he was lying, and Jaron changed it to Satish picked him up. Okay, then what?? Did Satish admit picking him up?? Did they say they left Natalee on the beach or did they pick her up too??

damn I still Still think shes alivethe thing that would freak me out isif she was being held in one of the hotels next to where the family is..this is such a small islandthey searched and searchedI can remember in most 'abduction' casesthat 'they' are found pretty damn close to where they were last seenthere was not alot of time for sloot to do muchhe was in school the next day2am to say 7am..?5 hourshow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

Bought the hotel thang: I magine the maids wudda found her by now!

Dont think so!

The smell alone....

ahh but wait...no smellit was a hand off to pay off a gambling debt Joran ran upand the casino(mafia) well maybe thats the wrong word called him on itso shes drugged up for three weeks nowin the penthouse that is off limits to the maids

damn I still Still think shes alivehow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

I reaallllly hope she's alive, but I have my doubts. I hate to say this, but they could have thrown her in a dumpster. In that case, her body may never be found...

the mcdonalds dumpster that the sloot dad was seen at 3:30am..?that one..?

Or any other dumpster around there. I wonder what day they are emptied in that area...

damn I still Still think shes alivethe thing that would freak me out isif she was being held in one of the hotels next to where the family is..this is such a small islandthey searched and searchedI can remember in most 'abduction' casesthat 'they' are found pretty damn close to where they were last seenthere was not alot of time for sloot to do muchhe was in school the next day2am to say 7am..?5 hourshow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

Bought the hotel thang: I magine the maids wudda found her by now!

Dont think so!

The smell alone....

Ooooooo, Cali! Cant blieve you said that! The hotel thing implies that SHE ALIVE!!! GET IT??

Thank you so much for answering my questurn. It's so good to know at least somebody is payin attention. I guess everbody else need to GO WATCH TV!

after viewing most of the soul beach fest pics from the whole week, i really think that JVDS and the K bros did whatever they did with her and then left her alive.....and that someone there for the fest in wahtever capacity (crew or guest) saw her all messed up and took advantage....

That could very well be! BUt, Why not fess up? Urine won't even admit he took her to Marriott beach.

We know only there simple facts..

She was last with them..Beach is the only consistent theme..and she's missing

well the reports today were stating that all 3 were questioned together and all 3 agreed on leaving her at beach in one way or another---you see any of that?

That interview with the magazine guy on Greta was whack! First of all, WE know Deepak is the older one. But what's the deal with the "source" that told about the interrogation? Jaron said Deepak picked him up, Deepak told him he was lying, and Jaron changed it to Satish picked him up. Okay, then what?? Did Satish admit picking him up?? Did they say they left Natalee on the beach or did they pick her up too??

I think these people are just screwing with us!!

See, this is why I believe nothing I hear and only half of what I see on TV. I think MSM is taking us for a ride... and not a good one.

damn I still Still think shes alivethe thing that would freak me out isif she was being held in one of the hotels next to where the family is..this is such a small islandthey searched and searchedI can remember in most 'abduction' casesthat 'they' are found pretty damn close to where they were last seenthere was not alot of time for sloot to do muchhe was in school the next day2am to say 7am..?5 hourshow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

Bought the hotel thang: I magine the maids wudda found her by now!

Dont think so!

The smell alone....

Ooooooo, Cali! Cant blieve you said that! The hotel thing implies that SHE ALIVE!!! GET IT??

damn I still Still think shes alivehow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

I reaallllly hope she's alive, but I have my doubts. I hate to say this, but they could have thrown her in a dumpster. In that case, her body may never be found...

the mcdonalds dumpster that the sloot dad was seen at 3:30am..?that one..?

Or any other dumpster around there. I wonder what day they are emptied in that area...

wait a minute where the heck does all that go..?it's an islanddo they burn it..?

damn I still Still think shes alivehow big a hole can you dig in 5 hoursand still be cool and collected the next day to take finals..I think he handed her off to somebody it would explain why he doesn't 'know' where she is nowmaybe if they ask the right questionswho did you give her too...?doubt she was tossed in oceanahh fwas it true that one of the surinam brothers had a cell call from other side of island at about 6:30am..?that could be a.........'it's done' call

I reaallllly hope she's alive, but I have my doubts. I hate to say this, but they could have thrown her in a dumpster. In that case, her body may never be found...

the mcdonalds dumpster that the sloot dad was seen at 3:30am..?that one..?

Or any other dumpster around there. I wonder what day they are emptied in that area...

wait a minute where the heck does all that go..?it's an islanddo they burn it..?

Beth Holloway Twitty has been consistant in her statements to the press, but confusing. I was just laying up in bed trying to sleep and had this really off the wall review of her statements and what they infer. We heard there's a twist in this case that's "not like any other cases" from elected officials. So, with that and BHT's statements in mind, a strange scenario:

1The boys know what happened to Natalee.

She doesn't say they harmed her, or anythign about them 'doing something' to Natalee. Just that they know "where she is" or sometimes, "what happened to her." Why is she avoiding saying they did something awful to her, which would be every parent's first instinct about a girl alone in a car with three strangers?

2. Natalee is alive.

We've attributed that to perhaps simply hope, but she's vehement. Perhaps it is hope. But I'm thinking she's sure of it. So why would she be so sure? Under the scenario of a crime of passion rape/murder, she wouldn't believe her daughter was alive. Probably not under the scenarios of white slavery or drug lords, either, because Natalee is nothing more than a bargaining chip or easily discarded by those people. Also, the reward $$ seems awfully low to entice big time bad guys, or any real bad guys who have much more to lose than to gain in $150,000.

3. Natalee did not run away.

Note she doesn't say Natalee is being held against her will, though, either. Just that she didn't intend to disappear and is, by all accounts, a loving, caring, responsible girl --

who willingly got into a car with three guys she hardly knew.

Put all of this together.

Natalee is alive. Someone has her, not by her own volition but not necessarily harmed, and maybe not completely unwillingly. The boys know what happened to her.

This leads me to believe that Natalee is with someone who knows her, and whom she knows, to some degree. Enough of a degree that her parents are relatively certain she is unharmed, sure she didn't just trot away off forever on her own, and someone known to the boys. Someone, maybe who looks like one of the boys --- enough that students from MBHS who were on the trip might confuse the two guys and not be sure when Natalee met which one, or videotape might have them mixed up perhaps.

What if Natalee got into the car with the boys because these boys offered to take her to meet up with this other party, and on doing so, "something bad happened." But they did not cause it to.

All of this describes the person mentioned earlier in the week by aia, and in a few posts in other places. Someone whose actions might scare the three guys enough to keep quiet, but someone they also believe won't harm her. Someone who was questioned and later released, and someone everyone keeps asking about but nobody seems to know anything about: LvG.

Maybe it's just nutty, but it makes sense to me. It also explains the cryptic comments made by one of Natalee's relatives about the $ being contributed possibly going to "Natalee's legal fees."

I think that one of our Arubian friends said that there was a dump site...I really feel that these Texas searchers are going to tell us whether she was dumped or buried....and if they don't find anything on the island...then I will assume that she is alive...even though I have been leaning that way all along.....I really hope she is