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I just got a call in from this number 1-904-725-0052 asking for my better half. Now we tend to give numbers we don't know short shrift but the women who called (Sh4ron Jackson) seemed to be very closely "impersonating" a law officer-saying she worked for the state etc. I kind of palmed her off but asked for her details-when i asked for them a second time she hung up on me.

I called the better half at work, as she has been dealing with an AMEX debt-15 years old and past the statute of limitations recently. She just got back to me and said that they have also been calling her parents (in another state) and whenever they ask for details she hangs up on them. The better half also has a sister who is an ex-con and somewhere in the wind and may or may not have used the better halfs id etc to get credit cards in the past, though if this has any relevance to this we do not know.

The better half called this women at the number above and spoke to her-the women already has all her details SS. Number etc and was threatening her with arrest if she did not pay before 11am. When the gf tried asking for details of the debt etc the woman hung up on her too. I tried to explain that anyone who wants payment by WU is probably not legit, but the gf is in the process of having kittens.

So does anyone know what is going on?
Does anyone have any advice on whether this is legal or a scam?
How can we stop this woman calling?
Who can we report her too?
Can someone get a company name or address for this number?

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ChibuikeMaster of Master Baiters

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Posted:
Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:45 pm

Sounds like a scam to me. I would turn all information over to your local police departments fraud unit. AMEX doesn't operate in that fashion but a collection agency would. I would ask them for copies of their documentation of this debt.

Additional comments: Just read the info from the google search. What a crock of shit! Sharon Jackson is violating so many federal laws herself I am surprised no one has challenged her on it. Don't take this crap from her I would have your attorney give her a nice little phone call.

I've done collections and she is cruising for trouble. She might have legitimate access to the info, but she is using it fraudulently. You can tell her not to call you again, and if she does, she can be in legal trouble. Get proof, if possible.

More importantly, she needs to be reported to the police. I'd march down to the police station with the research I'd done and make a report. You are lucky you have the phone number.

What a nasty scam.

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DonatoBaiting Guru

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Posted:
Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:07 pm

Thanks all for the advice...So far the gf has reported her/them/it to the attorney general-their advice was to hang up if she calls again.

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I frequently listen to financial radio talk show host Clark Howard. He has tons of good information on his web site, to include information on scams and illegal practices. You can get to his site at
http://clarkhoward.com/

I am not an attorney, however in my opinion, I strongly would consider contacting the Florida State Attorney General's office to file a complaint, because even if this turns out to be a valid debt, the practices you describe are most definitly illegal. You can find the contact info for the Florida AG online at the state's web-site.

After a debt is past 6 or 7 years old.. They cant put it on your credit record.

What happens is many of these debt collection places pay pennies on the dollar to tenths of pennies on the dollar for old debts. and find anyone with a similar name and try to scare them to pay. But they do ask for WU, or even the #s off the bottom of your check (to guess what - take every penny owed)

If she really owes a debt to amex (they are known to be the worse in collections) then it prob is real - the collections company isnt playing nice. If you tell them to stop contacting you they have too and do it in writing also.

If its been 15 years - then they cant put it on your credit report either

Donato - Part of what this kind of collection does is get you to admit you owe money to the original debtor. That resets a collection clock (in some places) and they then invoke all of the terms that were in place when the original debt was incurred.

The will use all of the scare tactics they can to get you to pay or agree to the debt or pay part on the debt. I had a situation (one of the kids) and looked into it. I even called the authorities State and Federal. I was told they can do most of the tactics (including using sexually based slurs) to get what they are after.

It made me sick how slimey they are and what the do and are allowed to get away with doing. Use all of your baiting skills because they are "legalized" scammers. Don't admit to anything. Don't give them any RL info and don't be nice to them.

PM if you want more, though it has been a while.

I did email all of the princilples of the company that was trying to scam and told them to knock it off as I had contacted the AG and the FTC. They went away!

I also used their toll free number a lot just to hang up when they answered. (Using the rules of baiting 1. waste time; 2. waste resources)

Edited because I couldn't spell "legalized" and I added a little bit more.

I had an old debt that I thought was dead and buried, a couple of years after I went on a spree with my BCCI credit card in the week after they went bust.

Eventually old debts get sold on, for a small percentage to anyone game enough to stump up the money and have a go. That may have happened to you.

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Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:56 am

Donato, back in the 1980s I was into phone phreaking, using codes and devices to get access to free phone calls, etc. I called all over, spoke for hours, etc. I started getting calls from the "phone Police", AT&T goons who wanted to know if I knew someone in (insert location here). Aside from the moral issues of theft of service, etc (I wouldn't do it now), I learned a few things, which may be applicable.

#2. "Who? Hold on, I'll be right back" Go take long hot bath. Drink some coffee. Do the crosswords. Do your nails. Read paper in the loo. Come back, say "Sorry, no one here knows what you are talking about." Hang up.

Remember, they are bullies and will try anything to get you to pay. Just refuse to speak with them on their terms. If they come on your property, do you live in a "stand your ground" state, like Florida or Texas? If so, stick a pistol in their face and tell them you will shoot them if they come back on your land. That is a cheap cease and desist order. Betcha the shit will stop.

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