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The Bass wrote:I'm quite enjoying some of the Before Watchmen books (but I'd always be a Fuck Alan Moore kind of guy) so to see the sales falling is pretty sad, and to see an asshole like Rude get work from DC is even worse. One to avoid.

Why is Steve Rude "an asshole" exactly? Not being antagonistic, genuinely curious. He's one of my absolute favourite artists but I haven't heard much of/about him for some time. Gave up looking for Nexus after #100....

As for BW despite having some fantastic creators on it, the whole thing just hasn't appealed to me. The Watchmen story was told in 12 issues - no further embellishment required.

If only DC had seen fit to give a load of their classic Golden Age characters this treatment. I'd have been well up for that.

TimDrake'sDumbWings wrote:I wonder if the handful of books that are still pretty successful (Batman, Justice League, Action Comics) could have been just as successful without the reboot. Because the sales of everything else are looking pretty bad.

The final issues of each pre-reboot:

Batman #713: 51,760JLA #59: 43,545 Action Comics #904: 39,323

By comparison, New 52:

Batman #12: 125,249JL #12: 120,796Action Comics #12: 71,203

Not sure if Scott Snyder or Geoff Johns would do the same numbers without the 52 reboot. Those are huge jumps... but I think you could easily make a case for Action Comics doing similarly with Morrison without the reboot.

Ugh. Absolutely determined not to get sucked into anymore 'events'. I buy most of the Bat-Books (dropped Red Hood early on and recently Batgirl, Batwing & Batwoman) & refuse to buy 'extras' to get the story. After 8 years of Marvel 'events' I'm evented-out.Did resolve that I'd drop any comics that started using the event gimmick but I'm inherently weak when it comes to comics.I was even thinking of giving the dreadful Green Arrow another chance after dropping it at #3......

UnionJack wrote:Why is Steve Rude "an asshole" exactly? Not being antagonistic, genuinely curious. He's one of my absolute favourite artists but I haven't heard much of/about him for some time. Gave up looking for Nexus after #100....

Not sure if Scott Snyder or Geoff Johns would do the same numbers without the 52 reboot. Those are huge jumps... but I think you could easily make a case for Action Comics doing similarly with Morrison without the reboot.

You have to be joking. Did you see the C-list morts on the JLA before they killed it off? Morrison also got a new start with the big guns, without a reboot, and he hit a home run. Lee and Johns on a JLA with the original 7 or even Cyborg would have still be a box office hit.The real story of how quickly the other books have gone down - not unexpected either.