I think Gary said he doesn't believe anything reported by the media anymore. I agree. You have to check every story, especially air crashes and anything labeled a "terrorist" act. In this case, however, this goof-up tells me this was a real incident:

"Two 16-year-old girls with Chinese passports were found dead outside the aircraft soon after the crash.

"One had allegedly been pulled from the aircraft by a firefighter and left near the plane's wing where she was said to have been run over by an airport crash tender after being covered in fire-fighting foam.

"On July 19, 2013, the San Mateo County Coroner's office confirmed that the girl was still alive prior to being run over by a rescue vehicle, and was killed due to blunt force trauma.

Is there a forum discussing the MH17? The video evidence is absolutely terrible. Pictures of the crash site are not credible. The "body" I saw was a mannequin. You could tell by the hand. And this parade of caskets in Amsterdam looks staged to me.

Once again--NO EVIDENCE. Just another excuse to demonize and punish the Russians.

Jim, I have asked you this before: where is all the raw Sandy Hook footage of you and wolfe's visit? I saw one snippet at the firehouse, you said you had lots more .... If you dont have time to put it up on YT, I will send you a flashdrive and do it for you ... please respond this time ... thanks.

figured you would ignore the above so i will just keep posting it until you speak ... looks like halbig is becoming another goldbug, you best ditch the guy; seems he is a cointelpro scammer in spades--cut your losses

It is you that are the fraud, not Wolfgang.. Most intelligent people know that those that attack character are doing it to discredit. He has spoken out and continues to do so at the expence of his family and his own well being.

1. High Profile Event: If an attack takes place at the World Trade Center complex causing the buildings to explode and collapse, or if it takes place at the White House, or Pentagon, it is clearly high profile. ....In other circumstances, however, the act itself may be the major factor such as the case in Sandy Hook Elementary School, a nationally unimportant location but a horrific act that made national news nonetheless.

2. Changing Stories: In informed researching circles, it is well-known that the information that comes out shortly after the event is usually the most reliable.

3. Simultaneous Drills: One hallmark of the false flag operation is the running of drills shortly before or during the actual attack. Many times, these drills will involve the actual sequence of events that takes place during the real life attack .

4. Cui Bono? The most important question to ask immediately after any high profile incident is “cui bono?” or “Who benefits?”

For instance, the presence of legislation which would stand little chance of being passed before the attack but which is quickly passed (or at least heavily pushed) afterwards is one clue that the conveniently timed attack was actually a false flag. Patriot Act style legislation was actually written before 9/11 but stood little chance of passing in Congress due to the political climate in the United States at the time. (Underwear bomber gave us the TSA body scanners.)

5. Unanswered Questions: Another hallmark of the false flag operation is relatively obvious – the presence of unanswered questions regarding the details of the attack, the perpetrators, the motive and so on.

6. Case is quickly closed: Once an acceptable patsy and cover story is chosen by the media, all other opinions and questions are refused air time. Nothing that even slightly contradicts the official story is acknowledged as legitimate. Once this happens, the patsy, if still alive (in rare circumstances) is charged, prosecuted, and convicted in a largely secret or shadowy proceeding.

7. Suspects’ Connection to CIA, FBI, or Other Intelligence Agencies: One key aspect suggesting a false flag that should be looked for soon after the attack is any possible connection the suspect or group of suspects may have had with intelligence agencies.

9. Media Promotes A Narrative Against Scapegoat Groups and/or An Agenda To Take Liberties: One clue suggesting a false flag is that, immediately after the attack and after the perpetrators have been “identified” by “officials” and the media, corporate media outlets begin not only demonizing the demographic group to which the “perpetrator” belongs, but begins promoting “solutions” in order to prevent such an attack from ever happening again.

"N.Y. congressman revives bill to equip U.S. airliners with anti-missile protection:"Rep. Steve Israel will recraft a 2003 bill he and Sen. Barbara Boxer proposed to equip passenger planes with protections against missiles. It was previously found to be too expensive."