The thing is in being a pocket passer, Luck has nearly identical athleticism to Cam Newton.

Luck would have been a great runner in college if he played that type of game. He is up there in mobility, especially at his size. The guy physically can take some punishment.

The ideal for me is to have a QB develop into a pocket passer. Running plays and mobility are valuable tools for a young QB to find some success early as they become better pocket players. I don't think Griffin or Newton will find long term success by being outside runners, but its a great tool for them in the short term. Ideally they would be pocket passers with just a tiny bit of running plays to make the defense have to account for it. Even if Peyton and Brady could run 4.2, I doubt they would rarely take off.

Ever since Jones left it seemed like Bell's chances of getting the starting QB gig were less and less. And the longer the competition dragged out the more likely it seemed that the job was not Bells. Anyways, I haven't seen him play but this guy Knight sounds like more a complete QB to me than Bell. Kind of sad that barring any unforeseen circumstance that Blake Bell's entire Oklahoma career will be him being called into the game on 3rd/4th and short.

Where does Brett Hundley stack up against the likes of Teddy Bridgewater for the top QB spot right now?

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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

A guy like Brett Hundley is more of a potential player who needs work to develop as a passer. No way should he declare. Same with Braxton Miller.

I seriously, think behind Teddy, AJ McArron is #2. Guy is football smart, intangibles, and is very good in all aspects of the game.

Anticipates well, is accurate, has adequete NFL arm strength, as he can throw the deep out and corner route with very good zip. Spins it well. Good in playaction, and can read and carve up a defense in the intermediate range.

A guy like Brett Hundley is more of a potential player who needs work to develop as a passer. No way should he declare. Same with Braxton Miller.

I seriously, think behind Teddy, AJ McArron is #2. Guy is football smart, intangibles, and is very good in all aspects of the game.

Anticipates well, is accurate, has adequete NFL arm strength, as he can throw the deep out and corner route with very good zip. Spins it well. Good in playaction, and can read and carve up a defense in the intermediate range.

The only reason why he is underrated is because his RBs do all of the work.

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Thought it was interesting to see Mel Kiper has Stephen Morris as the third ranked QB on his first Big Board of the season, ahead of Manziel and Tajh Boyd. McShay also has him as his third ranked QB on his list.

Thought it was interesting to see Mel Kiper has Stephen Morris as the third ranked QB on his first Big Board of the season, ahead of Manziel and Tajh Boyd. McShay also has him as his third ranked QB on his list.

I like Chuckie Keeton of Utah State. Maybe not a #1 guy, but he's solid. Knows how to create plays when there appears to me nothing there
And Other Carr from FSU (first name escapes me)
I want to see what Winston has to offer, or how Bridgewater could one-up Boyd.
Boyd is still amazing.
McCarron looks to be slightly better than McElroy. More athletic, but not that much more talented. (and he's got Gabbert senses, big red flag to me)
I'm out on Stephen Morris for the time being. Great WR crop, but hate that he just stares down WRs and can't get a consistently accurate ball out.

I was not impressed with Murray at all, he under threw a lot of balls and did not have a good game in general.

I'm a McCarron supporter so I might be a bit bias but I thought a lot of what happened yesterday was due to a stellar Va Tech defense, an inexperienced offensive line, and a lack of a running game. He had one play in the first quarter where nobody was open, he ran out of the pocket, found Amari cooper, and put the ball exactly where it needed to be for Cooper to make a catch and get a foot inbounds.

Derek Carr torched the Rutgers defense, Blake Bortles needs to start getting some more consideration as well - he plays in the same conference as Bridgewater. Boyd, Bortles and Carr are really the only three draft eligible uperclassmen that have impressed this weekend so far. Mannion also played very well in the upset loss to EWU. Manziel played well - just wish he would cool it with the antics.

Morris, Renner, Garnder, Pachall, Murray and Mettenebrger were all pretty underwhelming - especialliy Gardner and Morris considering all the hype they were receiving.

The Grappalo kid that Gil Brandt mentioned had a huge came for Eastern Illinois. The Matthews kid from Cornell hasn't played yet - doesn't look like their season starts for another few weeks.

It was interesting to see the three freshmen QBs for Texas Tech, PSU and Cal all come in and play very well. Even though it is only been one week I think those programs all should be very excited for their future under center for the next 3-4 years.

I'm really liking Braxton Miller as the front runner this year for being the first QB selected after 1 game. I know it's odd to say this, but yesterday he showed a lot of patience in the pocket versus taking off with the football like he would have done last year. Also if Ohio State walks their schedule it can only help his cause for being the top QB selected.

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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts

Derek Carr torched the Rutgers defense, Blake Bortles needs to start getting some more consideration as well - he plays in the same conference as Bridgewater. Boyd, Bortles and Carr are really the only three draft eligible uperclassmen that have impressed this weekend so far. Mannion also played very well in the upset loss to EWU. Manziel played well - just wish he would cool it with the antics.

Morris, Renner, Garnder, Pachall, Murray and Mettenebrger were all pretty underwhelming - especialliy Gardner and Morris considering all the hype they were receiving.

The Grappalo kid that Gil Brandt mentioned had a huge came for Eastern Illinois. The Matthews kid from Cornell hasn't played yet - doesn't look like their season starts for another few weeks.

It was interesting to see the three freshmen QBs for Texas Tech, PSU and Cal all come in and play very well. Even though it is only been one week I think those pograms all should be very excited for their future under center for the next 3-4 years.

Marcus Mariota will be a for sure Top 10 selection just off the strength of his read option ability.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts