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Originally posted by IceMyst: now i'm really scared... how do people like that get famous cause it sure as hell isnt her acting. possibly the sucking of cock.... *shudders*

shall we say Britney is a prime example of that, ice? She's pretty darn scary looking without makeup too. Then again, *I* don't think she's anything to write home about with makeup. ...and no to the smartasses, I am not jealous. I look better than her and my boobs are real. TYVM.

Ice, that's also like asking why aren't Britney Spears' backup singers the stars because they are better than her. It just doesen't make any sense. You have to be in the know to answer that question. BTW, I think Sarah Jessica Parker is hot...and Bish, why did you merge a picture of satan with acne and her face? Even ugly girls don't look like that without makeup...and she is definetly not ugly...

i dont think i have ever seen her back-up singers but then again i dont pay much attention to her period unless it is to poke fun of her especially now after her 48hr spur of the moment now non-existant marriage.

*Hell hath no fury like a womens anger and damn be the fool who gets in her way*

Originally posted by dashocker: Ice, that's also like asking why aren't Britney Spears' backup singers the stars because they are better than her. It just doesen't make any sense. You have to be in the know to answer that question. BTW, I think Sarah Jessica Parker is hot...and Bish, why did you merge a picture of satan with acne and her face? Even ugly girls don't look like that without makeup...and she is definetly not ugly...

well.. i'd have to say that yeah, the celebrities obviously look better with make up on. but don't we all? i mean, that's why we wear makeup, to enhance our beauty. true, some celebrities aren't the most attractive. for some reason, people think they are. there are some famous men and women that i really don't think are attractive. but nobody, and i mean NOBODY looks super hot without their makeup on.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"

Now I made a few calls, banged together a few heads, and had a few people killed. I was able to find a friend of a friend who could get access to this picture. Forget proof of extraterrestials or ghosts, this picture of Sarah Jessica Parker beats both of those. Never before has she ever been seen w/o makeup.

Originally posted by IceMyst: to be honest i look better with out make-up. i look like a slut who got hit by a 2x4 when i do where the garbage... ask gizmo... lol

I'm the same way, well sort of. I wouldn't say I look like a slut hit by a 2 x 4 lol. I don't wear makeup very often, and even when I do you can barely tell it's on there. Sure, sometimes when I'm bored I fuck around and cake it on, but it comes off, so why not. Everyone I know has told me I don't need makeup, cuz I look better without it. Usually when I do wear makeup I leave off the lipstick, because my lips are naturally quite red, and it looks really bad to put anything other than clear gloss on them.

Well when I wear makeup...wait...I don't wear makeup...I use this silk effect lip balm stick, and I use acne preventative. heh, um I feel that women look more natural, and attractive without makeup. My last ex, she looked great without makeup...ok with it...but I really don't like makeup. Plus it rubs off, plus it stains. Liek, I'd rather have female perfume smell on me then makeup. I guess to some married guy a lipstick mark on a collar matters. To me, it's liek..uh...shit...I'm gonna have to pretreat that, and wash it twice. Though I don't think that, I'm usually spontaneous in everyday, it's just when I get still, sit in motion that I get weird.

well the color of flesh, a pale orange to peach color with a mix of reds in cases, some stark whites. Flesh is natural, skin is beautiful, it's erotic, and transfixing for the body/eyes/mind/spirit. I don't know who came up with the stupid idea of painting it, to cover it's beauty. Probably people not proud, and happy with their bodies.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!Beware the Jubjub bird, and shunThe frumious Bandersnatch!"

people came up with 'flesh' colored makeup because not everyone has perfect skin tones. a lot of people have uneven skin tones, the flesh colored makeup evens them out. if a girl applies it thin enough you can't even tell she's wearing it. it's the girls that cake that stuff on in the WRONG color that look super gross.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"

Originally posted by weeve: Well when I wear makeup...wait...I don't wear makeup...I use this silk effect lip balm stick, and I use acne preventative. heh, um I feel that women look more natural, and attractive without makeup. My last ex, she looked great without makeup...ok with it...but I really don't like makeup. Plus it rubs off, plus it stains. Liek, I'd rather have female perfume smell on me then makeup. I guess to some married guy a lipstick mark on a collar matters. To me, it's liek..uh...shit...I'm gonna have to pretreat that, and wash it twice. Though I don't think that, I'm usually spontaneous in everyday, it's just when I get still, sit in motion that I get weird.

well the color of flesh, a pale orange to peach color with a mix of reds in cases, some stark whites. Flesh is natural, skin is beautiful, it's erotic, and transfixing for the body/eyes/mind/spirit. I don't know who came up with the stupid idea of painting it, to cover it's beauty. Probably people not proud, and happy with their bodies.

Unfortunately, not everyone is born beautiful or even good looking, and makeup can help make them more attractive, something that nature, God or whatever creative force out there forgot.

skin tones, uneven or not, light applied or not, do to scars, burns, big facial birthmarks or whatever, just like I said.

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Flesh is natural, skin is beautiful, it's erotic, and transfixing for the body/eyes/mind/spirit. I don't know who came up with the stupid idea of painting it, to cover it's beauty. Probably people not proud, and happy with their bodies.

I know ppl are born beautiful, lookers, good, and bad(still good:D). I believe makeup covers, is cannot help them with attraction, or betterment, it's a fake. to hide. Say they want someone to love them, their hiding, the person is attracted to not them, but the person their trying to be to attract a opposite. Makeup, and attractive feelings brought on by oils, and pastes is not nature. Nature wasn't powder back before 1900, or their fuckin perfumes. I like the smell of sweat on a woman, and the look of natural, real skin. Not hey look I got crayons. God...god...psshhh, divinity, "creative force" as you put it, did not forget, there is chaos with control, even to odd, ying to yang. But non-fake beauty is not ugly, it's true beauty, the kind that shows yes my yang may not have your kind of balancing ying, but it is my yang, and it is beautiful as am I. No force forgot beauty, we created makeup, and cover our problems hide our own media induced paranoia just like we created god, and religion(that's another topic. NOT for here, if you want to go on that, make a new topic on off topic or debate.). My beliefs are sarcastic, ever changing, and liquid. But my morals, and ethics are str8 like a razor. People need to stop being so closed minded.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!Beware the Jubjub bird, and shunThe frumious Bandersnatch!"

well, makeup isn't supposed to cover your face, it's supposed to enhance your natural beauty. i wear makeup sometimes, does that make me 'fake'? no, it just enhances any natural beauty that i may or may not have.

it doesn't turn you into a different person. some people may pretend to be somone they're not, but that has nothing to do with makeup. that is just that person's fucked up personality. i'm always me, with or without makeup. i'm still the same angry little bitch.

just so you know, women have been wearing makeup well before 1900. dating back to the ancient Egyptians, ancient Chinese, every ancient culture. Sure, it wasn't all nicely packaged with a L'Oreal sticker on it, but they crushed up certain colorful plants, mixed different things together and got some kind of makeup. women have been wearing makeup for centuries. i don't think there is anything wrong with making yourself even more beautiful.

"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"

Did I say that made you "fake"? No. Enhancing natural beauty, good good†, I was simply expressing my view on covering up a already beautiful face. If someone believes something is perfect, why try to make it "more perfect" when you can't? Why can't you? Because the person changing themself is putting on something to look better, for whatever reason, they already look great, but the only reason I can think of is "I want to look better". Hence I enforce my opinion, and look back on it. I respect your opinion, and understand it, this is mine. The perception of having beauty or not, when it comes down to it is a belief inside. That was what I was speaking on. But I know ppl are the same with makeup on, the same person, it's the act, and reason. I like reasoning, and deduction. This is the place, this is my time to deduct. The world is not as simple as people want it to be, but it's simple enough for me to look at what I see, and know. The human race got beyond understanding things a long long†time ago, now we just ignore them, and hide from the answers. I was talking about America's view on makeup, not "women's view", when you generalize something you over bloat it. We came from other countries to here. Nature wasn't powder, yes, I was speaking on the english thing, and sarcasm on powder boxes. into the 19th century makeup came back, back before then they used it to cover up illness, 6th century bleeding techniques, lipstick was around well before the 12th century.

The Fact is I wasn't talking about what you just got pretty fuzzy about;/ Just so you know, a majority of what I say is usually taken aggressively by people, because I'm here on earth as a pacifist, I resist normal thinking, and I believe that there is honesty in a medium. I'm glad people have no idea what I talk about alot though. Because I know what I'm looking for, and what others look at is usually not me. I say what I want, and it never really mattered if people understood me. I do like to clarify once in a while though. When people get mean, and sarcastic. At any level, it's obvious. Small, half nice, or acting. The new excuse is "I was only joking", "I'm going to be more aggressive", or "I was talking to you".

Meh I'm used to dealing with this. People trying to weasel out of what they say, or force their views. I show mine, and I respect others. I just love it when people take everything so seriously, that they can't see the difference between what I'm saying, and what their thinking. Friends, don't let friends change who they are, so that friends can sit happier, and in control. Hence why I've lost a few friends. I am who I am too, my "makeup" from my parents won't be changing ever.

*craves sprite soda*

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!Beware the Jubjub bird, and shunThe frumious Bandersnatch!"