Not only that - they keep telling you to do all kinds of weird DNS tricks to get to their site, as if somehow the fault for their site not working lies with *you*, not them.

"Just use OpenDNS!" They say again and again...never mind the fact that OpenDNS may not work for all people (it won't work on my university network).

And yes, before you use the classic "They're giving you free software! You've no right to complain!"-schtick, I'll say that if there's no point to people being interested if they can't get their act together and actually make the experience for the user as easy as possible. And all of that drama with the iHeist people isn't helping.

"If the pen is mightier than the sword, than the keyboard is a friggin lightsaber!""Computer are like air conditioners: they stop working when you open windows."Thats an undead warlock if you're wondering.

Directed at onerythym: I find your signature very offensive. If you don't like us, keep it to yourself, because that is very immature.

Is it even directed to you guys? It may be a zombie Amazon slogan from the days when the Amazon was the big great idea from the *select* VIP group.

You guys are right. The amazon "vip" situation that got out of control. We all put on amazon badges, and made up a fake heist. People got upset, and caused an upset. But you know that Chad, dont you?

Chad sorry you feel slighted but it has nothing to do with you. For your information, Chad, I made the original whatistheamazon.com site. The very first version, with the ugly green background and hubert obscured by foliage. Hidden bananas all over with random links to confuse...

The site was not finished, but there were too many people working in "the amazon" project. The site was leaked to this forum, before it was finished. People got angry. I even received nasty emails on my personal addresses.

A member even lied and claimed he had spoken with Phill who was having me banned. Long story short, it was very intense, and unwanted drama.

People were extremely upset about "the amazon" the badges, and so on. Most of us, removed the badges from our signatures. In fact, the IMG tags were disabled because of this.

I never changed my signature from that time. I removed myself from that "vip group" and life goes on.

I never felt the need to explain myself to you or anyone else. **Everyone that is an active member of this site should know the situation.**

Judging from his post count, I don't think Chad was around the forums when the VIP Forum and "theAmazon" got out of hand (of course, he might have been lurking or he probably just doesn't remember).

I certainly do remember when that happened - I was one of the original group of people who found themselves with a VIP link on their forum page. I'd chalk it up to Chad's innocent lack of knowledge more than actual malice. That being said, I thought it was good of you and the others who stood up to the asinine jokes that the others were playing on the rest of the forums.

Judging from his post count, I don't think Chad was around the forums when the VIP Forum and "theAmazon" got out of hand (of course, he might have been lurking or he probably just doesn't remember).

I certainly do remember when that happened - I was one of the original group of people who found themselves with a VIP link on their forum page. I'd chalk it up to Chad's innocent lack of knowledge more than actual malice. That being said, I thought it was good of you and the others who stood up to the asinine jokes that the others were playing on the rest of the forums.

I remember that - I was a lurker until then. After that I spent all my time helping to organize The Good Amazon effort which, you are right, Chad was not a part of.

But anyway, back to the server concerns, Chad, I think you should at least try to get the DNS servers up because any computer using Comcast in my area without OpenDNS can not access any of theAmazon's domains.

To the rest of you: Look, here's the deal. Before you go ranting on about me, I was around during the time, but I never really participated. I decided to partake after onerythym's time. I do not know the history of theAmazon before me! No one has every told me. I've been here since I got my invite right at the beginning of MacHeist, so don't judge someone by their post count: it means nothing. Because guess what? Maybe some people don't find it in their best interest to post their lives away and reach 1000 posts and feel that you've missed out on so much. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just my point of view. I post where I feel it is necessary, not where I feel like it.

I suppose that theAmazon took a sharp curve when this happened, and that happened to be the time I joined in theAmazon effort. It's made my name look very bad in some places, and sometimes, I do regret starting. I've had good times there, too, don't get me wrong, but it's all coming to an end. A very unexpected unfriendly ending. Not an ending we all planned.

I was uninformed about the histories of theAmazon, and for that case, I publicly apologize to onerythym. I think I've ran my course here at MacHeist, and I've really ruined it for myself. I congratulate the crew behind MacHeist for such a success, I know how hard it is to do this sort of thing.

If you still feel you've missed out of some details of my story there, or missing some details, do not hesitate to email me: chad@chadohman.com. When I get my blog finished, I will be posting a rather large essay on my time at theAmazon, the good and the bad, down to every detail. I won't be singling out anyone, nor will I be leaving anyone out.

Hey, just calm down, okay? No one's harping on you because you didn't know about the nastiness that came out of the VIP forums. I made that remark about post counts because it was the only indicator I had that you might not have been an active member when the original version of theAmazon had been planned. I don't think you're any more or less a member because someone like Warbrain has 1000+ posts and you don't.

I don't recall any nastiness. I remember a bunch of VIP people getting remorseful over confusing members, even though nobody was really taking notice, and then making long-winded apologies that were met with a collective "...wtf?" from the rest of the forum.

I don't recall any nastiness. I remember a bunch of VIP people getting remorseful over confusing members, even though nobody was really taking notice, and then making long-winded apologies that were met with a collective "...wtf?" from the rest of the forum.

Heh - fun to hear both points of view. An old rule:"People don't think about you nearly as much as you think they do." They're worrying about themselves, just like you're worrying about yourself.

In this case, the VIP realized they'd started something that wasn't a very good idea, and in the age of internet / transparency / immediacy they took steps to immediately recover their reputations and stop any "damage" that was done. Of course, not that many people (that I could tell) really had gotten involved anyway, so the "recovery" caused as much of a kerfluffle as the original attempt at confusion. Then the whole thing turned into a launching pad for the next (real) Heist!

Hey Chad, no need to feel attacked or anything... I don't think anyone here holds a grudge against you, and we certainly don't think high post counts or early registration give certain users a special statue. Dvokalak's reg number, for example, is in the 20 thousands and he's an active member.

Hey Chad, no need to feel attacked or anything... I don't think anyone here holds a grudge against you, and we certainly don't think high post counts or early registration give certain users a special statue. Dvokalak's reg number, for example, is in the 20 thousands and he's an active member.

Seconded. I had a very low post count (<20 I think) until about a month ago.