The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

Re: White House Responds to School Shooting: ' Gun Control Coming, But Today is not the Day for Disscussion'

This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed, undefended, helpless victims, all crammed into one place, where he can kill many children before an armed defender arrives from elsewhere. It is disturbing and sick that the federal government so hates the right of the American people to bear arms, and so hates their natural right to self defense, that the government insists on making them helpless, disarmed victims for anyone who cares to kill them. And in this case, all of the teachers and staff were willfully disarmed by the Federal Government, by force of law and threat of prison, to ensure that they would be disarmed and incapable of saving the lives of the children entrusted to their care.

That makes the Federal Government complicit in the deaths of these children, and in fact an accessory to their mass murder, by forcibly disarming (with the very real threat of prison) all the teachers, all the staff, and any parent who may have been on school property. That stupid law guaranteed the shooters would meet no immediate armed resistance, which is exactly what is needed to stop such an attack.

In such a shooting (as in every criminal attack), seconds count, and the people best positioned to stop the attack are the people on the scene - the intended victims and/or their care-takers. In this case, that would mean the teachers and staff of the school, and also the parents, who should have the ability to save the lives of their own children as they take them to and from school.

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

Re: White House Responds to School Shooting: ' Gun Control Coming, But Today is not the Day for Disscussion'

Criminals will still get guns whether the govt assumes they can control it or not. All we do is impose more rules to break. Don't drink under 21...whatever drugs....whatever and the same with guns. There will always be those that will find a way if they want to.

Quoting: lilwings 656961

None of this is about the safety of American Citizens against gun or any other kind of violence. The motives behind gun control can be found in the history books. For example, Hitler outlawed guns before he began to exterminate the Jewish people. Every instance in history where the population has been disarmed, the (Government) has then taken away more liberties.

The founding fathers of this country knew how dangerous Governments can be, that is why there is a Constitution, among other documents that outline inalienable RIGHTS. These are put in place to stave off corruption and ultimately oppression by the people in our Government.

You cannot tell me that a Congressman/woman whom has been in their (Elected) position for 20 or 30 years or more, has not taken bribes, pay offs and sold out the American people during some or all of their careers in Politics.

Does anyone in America know that over 40 IED's (IMprovised Explosive Devices) were disabled before the were able to detonate in America this year alone? I bet no one knows this, unless you have been (briefed) on the information for one reason or another.

My personal opinion is that these shootings, from the movie theaters to the schools are false flags.

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cause people need weapons that hold multiple rounds. When this part of the constitution was written people had muzzle loaders.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18625087

The 2nd amendment is to protect us from a tyrannical government. When the constitution was written, the gov't and people had the same weapons. There were no tanks, fighter jets, nukes, drones, etc back then either.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13275103

You missed the Chemical weapons and the Biological Weapons. Are these 'arms' as well? You bet.

Where is my 150Kw output LASER Rifle and its back pack power supply? So I can take down tryannical Drone uses, etc?

Oh, and part of the 2nd is, "a well regulated..." REGULATED.

Okay, now just what definitions are there to this word, REGULATED and what understandings of the 2nd has what definitions?

Such 'regulation' would also apply to personal nukes, biological and chemical Arms, would it not?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246

Regulated at the time meant having an individual weapon in good working order along with the necessary gear to employ it effectively.

Re: White House Responds to School Shooting: ' Gun Control Coming, But Today is not the Day for Disscussion'

cause people need weapons that hold multiple rounds. When this part of the constitution was written people had muzzle loaders.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18625087

The 2nd amendment is to protect us from a tyrannical government. When the constitution was written, the gov't and people had the same weapons. There were no tanks, fighter jets, nukes, drones, etc back then either.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13275103

And the government didn't have GPS technology and drones either..what good is a piss-ant little gun going to do you at this point anyway? We're FUCKED!

Re: White House Responds to School Shooting: ' Gun Control Coming, But Today is not the Day for Disscussion'

cause people need weapons that hold multiple rounds. When this part of the constitution was written people had muzzle loaders.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18625087

The 2nd amendment is to protect us from a tyrannical government. When the constitution was written, the gov't and people had the same weapons. There were no tanks, fighter jets, nukes, drones, etc back then either.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13275103

And the government didn't have GPS technology and drones either..what good is a piss-ant little gun going to do you at this point anyway? We're FUCKED!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20186508

gps and drones are just like tracers. they work both ways (in the sense that it is open source tech) Try to read and think to discover why we aren't "f....d".

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Criminals will still get guns whether the govt assumes they can control it or not. All we do is impose more rules to break. Don't drink under 21...whatever drugs....whatever and the same with guns. There will always be those that will find a way if they want to.

Quoting: lilwings 656961

None of this is about the safety of American Citizens against gun or any other kind of violence. The motives behind gun control can be found in the history books. For example, Hitler outlawed guns before he began to exterminate the Jewish people. Every instance in history where the population has been disarmed, the (Government) has then taken away more liberties.

The founding fathers of this country knew how dangerous Governments can be, that is why there is a Constitution, among other documents that outline inalienable RIGHTS. These are put in place to stave off corruption and ultimately oppression by the people in our Government.

You cannot tell me that a Congressman/woman whom has been in their (Elected) position for 20 or 30 years or more, has not taken bribes, pay offs and sold out the American people during some or all of their careers in Politics.

Does anyone in America know that over 40 IED's (IMprovised Explosive Devices) were disabled before the were able to detonate in America this year alone? I bet no one knows this, unless you have been (briefed) on the information for one reason or another.

My personal opinion is that these shootings, from the movie theaters to the schools are false flags.

Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR

Where in the FUCK did you get that bullshit propaganda from, a PUBLIC SCHOOL indoctrination!?

The "founding fathers" were FEDERALISTS. It was the ANTI-FEDERALISTS who INSISTED that the Bill of Rights be inserted into the CONstitution. The FEDERALISTS were OPPOSED to its insertion, but ultimately HAD to give in.

The CONsitution is a STATIST's DREAM and ushered in a CENTRALIZED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The CONstitution is FULL OF LOOPHOLES IN THE LANGUAGE which enabled TPTB to get us where we are today!!

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Yea some fagot on msnbc was already spouting of about doing away with the 2nd amendment. Right away they jump at their chance to bash the 2nd amendment. There is going to be a shit storm come out of this i can guarantee it. I hope all you peeps that every wanted to buy and ar or the like did it cause here comes the ban. I just hope those fuckers grandfather, cause if they dont look the fuck out.

That's nothing, we here in Texas had way more than that to secede. The second amendment is central enough to cause a real split if pushed too far. The gun lovers in the middle, surrounded by liberal retards on each coast.

Re: White House Responds to School Shooting: ' Gun Control Coming, But Today is not the Day for Disscussion'

Criminals will still get guns whether the govt assumes they can control it or not. All we do is impose more rules to break. Don't drink under 21...whatever drugs....whatever and the same with guns. There will always be those that will find a way if they want to.

Quoting: lilwings 656961

None of this is about the safety of American Citizens against gun or any other kind of violence. The motives behind gun control can be found in the history books. For example, Hitler outlawed guns before he began to exterminate the Jewish people. Every instance in history where the population has been disarmed, the (Government) has then taken away more liberties.

The founding fathers of this country knew how dangerous Governments can be, that is why there is a Constitution, among other documents that outline inalienable RIGHTS. These are put in place to stave off corruption and ultimately oppression by the people in our Government.

You cannot tell me that a Congressman/woman whom has been in their (Elected) position for 20 or 30 years or more, has not taken bribes, pay offs and sold out the American people during some or all of their careers in Politics.

Does anyone in America know that over 40 IED's (IMprovised Explosive Devices) were disabled before the were able to detonate in America this year alone? I bet no one knows this, unless you have been (briefed) on the information for one reason or another.

My personal opinion is that these shootings, from the movie theaters to the schools are false flags.

Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR

Where in the FUCK did you get that bullshit propaganda from, a PUBLIC SCHOOL indoctrination!?

The "founding fathers" were FEDERALISTS. It was the ANTI-FEDERALISTS who INSISTED that the Bill of Rights be inserted into the CONstitution. The FEDERALISTS were OPPOSED to its insertion, but ultimately HAD to give in.

The CONsitution is a STATIST's DREAM and ushered in a CENTRALIZED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The CONstitution is FULL OF LOOPHOLES IN THE LANGUAGE which enabled TPTB to get us where we are today!!

You, sir, are a fucking moron.

Quoting: LMAO!!!!! 28872856

He is not a moran even if he is a current or former 0311 (I am too)

Everything he says is correct and everything you say is correct. He just doesn't have your depth of knowledge about the anti federalists and the CON in the constitution.

Both of you are essentially on the same side. I have also tried to speak of the very same points you make about the anti federalists. Every thing wrong they said would happen has happened.

Probably better if we confine ourselves to fighting the collectivists. They are the enemy not the constitutionalists.