Right-wing hate group blames gays for WikiLeaks disclosures

Bryan Fischer (above) of the American Family Assocation, which was recently designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, SAYS the WikiLeaks disclosures are evidence that gays shouldn’t be allowed to serve in the military.

By the way, this is the same Bryan Fischer who recently said that the Medal of Honor has been “feminized” because “we now award it only for preventing casualties, not for inflicting them.” (See HERE.)

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a777pilot — do you think the Bush Administration guys and conservative columnist Robert Novak who outed Valerie Plame as a CIA agent are enemy combatants too. If you are going to make bold statements, apply them to your own cause also.
I argued with Nic Stewart on his blog last afternoon and night on my day off.

Poor Main Man. He clings to his right-wing myths no matter all the evidence to the contrary.

By way of sticking up for a homophobic hate group, he reasserts here his agreement with Sarah Palin’s mistaken claim last month that grocery prices had “risen significantly over the past year or so.”

As I have previously explained to Main Man, the Wall Street Journal, a conservative paper, recently reported this: “Grocery prices haven’t risen all that significantly, in fact. The consumer price index’s measure of food and beverages for the first nine months of this year showed average annual inflation of less than 0.6 percent, the slowest pace on record (since the Labor Department started keeping this measure in 1968). Even if you pick a single snapshot — say, September’s year-over-year increase in prices — that was just 1.4.percent, far better than the 6 percent annual increase for food prices recorded in September 2008.”

Yes, there are reports that inflation is beginning to ripple through the food industry, but the key word there is “beginning.” Palin says grocery prises have risen “significantly over the past year or so.” That’s not even remotely true.

In another recent Wall Street Journal article, it was reported that last year was “the tamest year of food pricing in nearly two decades.”

“a777pilot — do you think the Bush Administration guys and conservative columnist Robert Novak who outed Valerie Plame as a CIA agent are enemy combatants too. If you are going to make bold statements, apply them to your own cause also.” Shawnnews

Well, if memory serves me correctly, Ms Plame was NOT outed by anyone. According to the Special Prosecutor, no crime was committed. To be “outed” and have it a federal crime, the information of as to who is an agent of the CIA must be made available within 5 years of that agent having been in the field. Ms. Plame did not fall within that criteria.

If you are going to call me out on something at least get your facts right first.

As I have previously explained to Main Man, the Wall Street Journal, a conservative paper, recently reported this: “Grocery prices haven’t risen all that significantly, in fact. The consumer price index’s measure of food and beverages for the first nine months of this year showed average annual inflation of less than 0.6 percent, the slowest pace on record (since the Labor Department started keeping this measure in 1968). Even if you pick a single snapshot — say, September’s year-over-year increase in prices — that was just 1.4.percent, far better than the 6 percent annual increase for food prices recorded in September 2008.”

Unquote.

I don’t trust the Labor Department.

I do know that when the wife and I go grocery shopping we pay more for less. The prices of just about everything is up. Where the price is not up the quantity and/or quality is down.

Pat, you might be rich, but I suggest you get out of your office or off the golf course and see what people are paying for their food.

Nope. I don’t trust her either. I don’t listen to Rush, but I have in the past. He is very difficult to listen to for more than a few minutes. The same applies to Beck. If I want to be preached to, I will attend church. I don’t do that either.

Boy, what an unusual “conservative” am I.

I also am NOT for term limits. In fact I am for the repeal of the 22d Amendment.

I do not think any sort of Constitutional Amendment to balance the budget is a good idea.

Jim Yeager — There are two groups called FAIR.
One is the supposed hate group — the “Federation for American Immigration Reform.”
The other is “Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting” that is questioning the Southern Povetry Law Canter’s designation of the American Family Association as a hate group.
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a777pilot — Richard Armitage revealed the information to Robert Novak who published it in a column. Other White House officials were involved who had spoken about Plame to other reporters. “Scooter” Libby was convicted in charges relating to the Plame case when he spoke to other reporters, not Novak.

a777pilot — Richard Armitage revealed the information to Robert Novak who published it in a column. Other White House officials were involved who had spoken about Plame to other reporters. “Scooter” Libby was convicted in charges relating to the Plame case when he spoke to other reporters, not Novak.

That is all true but one must read the Special Prosecutor’s final report to understand that no crime was committed in the “outing” if Ms. Plame.

If Mr. Libby was too stupid to tell the truth to the FBI and the Special Prosecutor, then he needs to be locked up.

a777pilot – You’re wasting your time. I frequently read articles from Daily Kos, Huffingtonpost, Democratic Underground, politcusa, and several others, including most of what Pat provides, in order to understand multiple points of view.

Many other moderates do likewise. They listen to both sides, then formulate a rational decision.

People like Peanut are the dictionary definition of close-mindedness and hypocrite. He’s no better than the person who watches Fox News and nothing else.

Full of crap? I don’t remember that warm reference to Neftali and I. Come to think of it, this my first post on this thread. Nothing like an ad hominem attack from the one who once decried his poor picked upon self.

Don’t worry though Peanut, it made me smile. If nothing else, the foaming at the mouth finally proves you are a liberal. It seems to be some sort of outbreak of rabies amongst the liberals this week.

This thread got really confused.
Peanut’s not a Tea Partier — he’s a lefty.
If Valerie Plame wasn’t outed as a CIA agent, I wouldn’t know she was one. It has nothing to do with criminal charges. Her identity was a government secret that was revealed to journalists. All Bush conservatives did was circle the wagons. It seems to me when someone else commits crimes they are all for stiff penalties.

There are many who were CIA agents. I even know some. The law states that this so called outing must be within five years of that person being an active agent. It’s just the law.

As far as throwing in jail those whose politics I might agree with, I really don’t care. If they are dumb enough to break the law, enjoy jail. Democrats have never held their members to any kind of a stand, except the double standard.

a777pilot: When Peanut mentions teabaggers (no matter the spelling), he’s apparently referring to supporters of the Tea Party movement. But when you use that term, your meaning is something else. Quite obviously, Peanut doesn’t sympathize with the Tea Party movement. Ergo, I’m telling you to stop using that term. And don’t argue with me about it.