I currently use t-bird with an nntp account pointing to gmane to read
this list and sereral others. Does kde have an nntp client program of
any sort? I don't see it as a possible new account type in kmail. Also,
search with kpackagekit yields nothing with "usenet" or "nntp" that is
kde specific.
-gene

Looking over some broken deps reports, I came across some old packages:
kdebindings
smokeqt
smokekde
qyoto (csharp/mono)
kimono (csharp/mono)
ruby-qt
ruby-korundum
perl-Qt
Of these, the only one that's not a pure leaf package is perl-Qt (debconf-
kde depends on it).
any comment or objection to considering orphaning most (all minus
smokeqt/perl-Qt) or all of these ?
-- Rex

Just moved from Fedora 21 to F25. Under F21 I had a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0 which contained
gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs"
This enabled basic Emacs cursor motion keyboard commands in text input boxes throughout KDE,
Firefox, &c. (Outside of input boxes, KDE shortcuts ruled.)
How can I get this same behaviour for Plasma 5 w/in F25? From reading around, I've created
~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
and inserted
[Settings]
gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs
in this empty file. This has given the desired result in Firefox and Thunderbird,
but not w/in arbitrary text boxes in KDE (e.g. Alt-F2). The ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file is still
intact, by the way. It seems to have no effect. Any ideas?
-Sherman

# F27 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2017-10-30
# Time: 16:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We currently have 2 proposed Final blockers, 1 proposed
Final freeze exception, and 1 proposed Server Beta blocker, so let's
have a Fedora 27 blocker review meeting.
If you have time tonight, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from
the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server
blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for
the Server release dates using those trackers.
Have a good night and see you tomorrow!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net

Hi,
since both KDE upstream and the Fedora KDE SIG refuse to fix the regression
that Dolphin, KWrite, and Kate can no longer be run as root, I have decided
to write a small metapackage that automatically applies the binary patch to
fix the issue.
The patch that is applied is the 's/getuid/getpid/g' hack, see:
https://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg19018.html
for an explanation of how it works.
The patched executables are written to /usr/local/bin. The metapackage uses
file triggers so that the patched version is automatically updated when the
original copy in /usr/bin is updated from the system package. While it would
be possible in principle with this method to apply the patches in place in
/usr/bin, I have decided against it, for 2 reasons:
1. integrity checks such as rpm -Va would fail on the patched executables,
and
2. delta RPMs would fail because the original RPM could not be
reconstructed.
Writing the patched executables to a different directory avoids this issue.
After installing this package, e.g., "kdesu kwrite" should just work again.
You can get the package from the Kannolo Copr:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kkofler/kannolo/
Source code:
https://svn.calcforge.org/viewvc/kannolo/trunk/packages/kannolo-root-unlo...
Direct package link:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kkofler/kannolo/package/kannolo-r...
Enjoy!
Kevin

# F27 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2017-10-23
# Time: 16:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We currently have 8 proposed Final blockers, 9 proposed
Final freeze exceptions, 5 proposed Server Beta blockers, and 1
proposed Server Beta freeze exception to review, so let's have a
Fedora 27 blocker review meeting.
If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from
the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server
blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for
the Server release dates using those trackers.
Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net

Hi,
We discussed many times about the set of applications available by default on
the live ISO.
I extracted the list of default programs available on the live images of
Fedora 27 beta for Workstation edition (from the Activities overview) and KDE
spin (from the Application Launcher).
Few data points:
= Gnome: 39 unique items
complete list: see the attached f27_beta_workstation_all.txt
= Plasma: 71 unique items, but 83 total (some in different categories)
complete list: see the attached f27_beta_kde_all.txt
24 items have a one-o-one mapping between the two sets.
There are two different issues that should be solved separately:
1) reduce the number of unique items
2) reduce the duplication
I'm not sure how to properly address the point 2), as the menu spec allows
applications to be in different categories. I'm not even sure that it is a
real issue for the testing, so I will leave it out for now.
Regarding poing 1), based also on the previous discussions on IRC, you can
find below few initial proposals:
== most likely can be removed ==
Wallet Management Tool for KDE4 (KWalletManager4) -> KWallet/KF5 can handle
KWallet/Qt4 applications since 5.35
User Manager (KUser) -> removed upstream; Plasma provides a KCM module
News Reader (KNode) -> not for a live
Instant Messenger Contact (IM Contacts) -> part of KDE Telepathy
KDE Instant Messenger Log Viewer (KDE IM Log Viewer) -> part of KDE Telepathy
File Manager (Krusader) -> no need on a live
File Manager (Krusader - root-mode) -> see Krusader
MS Word DOCX Export Filter (MS Word DOCX Export Filter) -> glitch, removed
upstream, just cherry-pick the patch
Download with AMZ Downloader (AMZ Downloader) -> Disable the dependency from
Amarok
BitTorrent Client (KTorrent) -> not really needed on a live
Color Chooser (KColorChooser) -> Plasma provides a plasmoid for that
== maybe remove ==
D-Bus Debugger (Qt5 QDbusViewer) -> maybe move to dev packages, or its own
subpackage?
Minesweeper-like Game (KMines)
Patience Card Game (KPatience)
Mahjongg Solitaire (KMahjongg)
Speech Synthesizer Frontend (KMouth) -> not required for speech synthesis
(applications use the underlying library directly)
Network Folder Wizard (KNetAttach) -> less relevant for a live
Desktop Sharing (Krfb) -> server, can be installed later
== more discussion probably required for a removal (?) ==
Find Files/Folders (KFind) -> dolphin search is different, maybe can be dropped
Feed Reader (Akregator)
Disk Burning (K3b)
Remote Desktop Client (KRDC)
Screen Ruler (KRuler)
== further discussion ==
Find a way to see if the minor programs from KDE PIM can be exposed
differently maybe
Ciao
--
Luigi

I had a heck of a time figuring out why printing wasn't working on
Fedora 26. It turns out that Qt applications have problems with CUPS
printers that have ipp://... (or ipps://...) device-uri's. (This was a
clean install, and I just happened to use ipp://... when I set up my
printers; I had previously used http://...:631/....)
Symptoms include:
* Qt applications will default to "Print to File (PDF)," even though a
default CUPS queue is set. (The CUPS printers are selectable in the
drop-down, but ....)
* Page size will always default to A4, even if the printer is configured
to use another default page size in CUPS.
* Most seriously, actually clicking on the "Print" button has no effect.
Gtk applications don't seem to have any problem with ipp[s] URLs, but
running "lpoptions -l" will error out:
lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for XXXXXXXXXX: Not Found
I suspect this is a symptom of this issue:
https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/4725
--
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