Not to bad but you have to keep the red helmets and I don't really like the all black too many teams are going all black especially college.

chiefnut

02-07-2012, 02:12 PM

Give the last guy our red helmet and that ONE would be ok,
there is no black in red and gold

LOBBS

02-08-2012, 07:03 AM

there is no black in red and gold

You're kidding right? There is also no white in there either but it's an "accepted" color. If not, I haven't heard such an asinine comment in quite awhile.

The Chiefs have used a four color palette of red, gold, black and white since day one. Their main logo, their "face to the world", is primarily consisted of white and black with just a few red characters. No gold at all. When your primary logo consists of nearly 2/3rds of a pair of colors they are no longer some arbitrary accent. If anything, gold is the color of those four that is most often optioned out. That is simply because it is not necessary to produce the teams main logo.

When you go into a store or online searching for Chiefs gear red is the predominant color in everything. Next up you'll find a whole slew of white, black and grey (tonal variations on the previous two) t-shirts, hoodies, jackets, etc. It is quite the rare instance you can find anything in which gold is the dominant color.

You look at the Chiefs homepage, this website, and nearly every form of media the team produces and it is more often than not centered around the theme of red, white and black. Gold may or may not be involved at all.

To say that black or white does not constitute a "Chiefs" color would be ignorant and short-sighted.

Again, I said right off the bat that the traditionalists would not like my designs. I won't lose any sleep.

N TX Dave

02-08-2012, 01:23 PM

Well there is another reason I don't like the black they are called tRaiders.

LOBBS

02-08-2012, 02:52 PM

Well there is another reason I don't like the black they are called tRaiders.

"I hate the old Model Ts. I hate them stock, I hate them hot-rodded. I think they're one of the fugliest cars to ever hit the road. I hate the fact that they came in any color as long as it was black. And on top of that, Henry Ford was a iron-fisted maniac who was infatuated with speeding everything up.

And because of that I hate every car ever made that was painted black."

I expected it but still shake my head every time that lame-azz Raiders-use-it reasoning is thrown out there.

The Steelers and Saints don't look like the Raiders. Neither do the Ravens, Eagles or Panthers when they wear their black alternates. Nearly every team in the NFL that doesn't have a very dark signature color uses black to some degree. Nearly every team in sports that doesn't have a dark signature color uses black. They don't look like the Raiders because of it.

AkChief49

02-08-2012, 03:11 PM

Well there is another reason I don't like the black they are called tRaiders.

Not too bad but I like the current Jerseys. I like the all white aways more than the ones with red pants though thats a real uniform anyway.

BTW is that Madden 06?

LOBBS

02-09-2012, 05:22 AM

Not too bad but I like the current Jerseys. I like the all white aways more than the ones with red pants though thats a real uniform anyway.

BTW is that Madden 06?

It's FFXI, a modded version of Madden 08 and those are my 2020 Chiefs from one of my franchises. A small group of us has kept Madden alive since they dropped the PC version after Madden 08.

Every year, we put together new rosters, mods, and update the uniforms as necessary to keep the game current. We're ramping up now to get started on next season's version. Now that we've been able to get into the base files of the game there's not a whole lot we can't do with it. Almost everything you see in those pics has been pulled out, touched up in Photoshop and put back into the game. We can force the game to accept much higher resolution images than it came with originally. They're still not quite PS3/Xbox 360 quality but they are much better than "stock".

The PC version plays so much better than the crap that EA puts out every year on the consoles that I don't mind giving a little up graphically for near total control of the content.

AussieChiefsFan

02-09-2012, 05:38 AM

It's FFXI, a modded version of Madden 08 and those are my 2020 Chiefs from one of my franchises. A small group of us has kept Madden alive since they dropped the PC version after Madden 08.

Every year, we put together new rosters, mods, and update the uniforms as necessary to keep the game current. We're ramping up now to get started on next season's version. Now that we've been able to get into the base files of the game there's not a whole lot we can't do with it. Almost everything you see in those pics has been pulled out, touched up in Photoshop and put back into the game. We can force the game to accept much higher resolution images than it came with originally. They're still not quite PS3/Xbox 360 quality but they are much better than "stock".

The PC version plays so much better than the crap that EA puts out every year on the consoles that I don't mind giving a little up graphically for near total control of the content.
WOW, youre putting a lot of work into this! I had 06 on PC, my first madden game, it was really fun. Controls were kinda awkward but none the less it was fun! If current Madden games had all the features of the old games, but the current new featues and the graphics of the current games, Madden would be the best game EVER!

LOBBS

02-09-2012, 05:47 AM

WOW, youre putting a lot of work into this! I had 06 on PC, my first madden game, it was really fun. Controls were kinda awkward but none the less it was fun! If current Madden games had all the features of the old games, but the current new featues and the graphics of the current games, Madden would be the best game EVER!

I personally have a huge database going back 10 years with hundreds of data splits that automatically generates Madden ratings.

All I need is a player's height, weight, 40 time, draft position and career stats and I can generate their Madden numbers. It took me months to compile and because every player is evaluated using the same algorithms I never have an overrated or underrated player in the game the way that EA does.

It aggravates me to no end the way that EA favors the big-market teams and whatever teams are the flavors of the year. It's the other biggest reason I greatly prefer the PC version to shelling out $60 a year on their BS.

I could probably kill in a fantasy football league if I took any interest in them.

I'd love it too if EA would bring the next-gen graphics to the PC if and only if it were in a form that we could get into files and mod to our liking.

Chiefster

02-09-2012, 01:27 PM

Cool, but not really diggin the black helmets, the total black uni's or pants.

chiefnut

02-09-2012, 04:21 PM

You're kidding right? There is also no white in there either but it's an "accepted" color. If not, I haven't heard such an asinine comment in quite awhile.

The Chiefs have used a four color palette of red, gold, black and white since day one. Their main logo, their "face to the world", is primarily consisted of white and black with just a few red characters. No gold at all. When your primary logo consists of nearly 2/3rds of a pair of colors they are no longer some arbitrary accent. If anything, gold is the color of those four that is most often optioned out. That is simply because it is not necessary to produce the teams main logo.

When you go into a store or online searching for Chiefs gear red is the predominant color in everything. Next up you'll find a whole slew of white, black and grey (tonal variations on the previous two) t-shirts, hoodies, jackets, etc. It is quite the rare instance you can find anything in which gold is the dominant color.

You look at the Chiefs homepage, this website, and nearly every form of media the team produces and it is more often than not centered around the theme of red, white and black. Gold may or may not be involved at all.

To say that black or white does not constitute a "Chiefs" color would be ignorant and short-sighted.

Again, I said right off the bat that the traditionalists would not like my designs. I won't lose any sleep.

Unlike several NFL franchises, the Chiefs' uniform design has essentially remained the same throughout the club's history.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) It consists of a red helmet, and either red or white jerseys with the opposite color numbers and names.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) White pants were used with both jerseys from 1960–1967 and 1989–1999.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) After a brief disappearance, the Chiefs re-introduced the all-white uniform combinations for the 2006 season.
Although many NFL teams in recent years have worn their dark jerseys with their dark pants, the Chiefs have to yet to unveil an all-red combination. When the Chiefs wear their red uniforms, they always wear white pants. The Chiefs have never worn an alternate jersey in a game, although gold jerseys with red numbers trimmed in white, and black jerseys with red numbers trimmed in gold, are sold for retail.
The white jersey–red pants combination was not used between 1989 (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/1989_Kansas_City_Chiefs_season) and 1999 (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/1999_Kansas_City_Chiefs_season), primarily during the period when Marty Schottenheimer (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Marty_Schottenheimer) was the team's head coach. In 2006, under new head coach Herman Edwards (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Herman_Edwards), the Chiefs wore white uniforms with white pants at home against the Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Cincinnati_Bengals).
Following Lamar Hunt (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Lamar_Hunt)'s death on December 13, 2006, the Chiefs wore the all-white combination for road games against the San Diego Chargers (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/San_Diego_Chargers) on December 17 and Oakland Raiders (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Oakland_Raiders) on December 23. It is said the all-white combination was a tribute to Hunt, who reportedly favored the all-white uniforms. The team wore the all-white combination in their playoff game versus the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Indianapolis_Colts). The team did not wear the all-white combination during the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

And please don't refer to my opinion as asinine, white is not considered a true color rather the absence of color. black is a combination of colors yellow red and blue. although to be perfectly accurate black also is considered a hue and not a true color. asinine or not!

LOBBS

02-10-2012, 06:52 AM

Unlike several NFL franchises, the Chiefs' uniform design has essentially remained the same throughout the club's history.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) It consists of a red helmet, and either red or white jerseys with the opposite color numbers and names.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) White pants were used with both jerseys from 1960–1967 and 1989–1999.[1] (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/#cite_note-Uniform_History-0) After a brief disappearance, the Chiefs re-introduced the all-white uniform combinations for the 2006 season.
Although many NFL teams in recent years have worn their dark jerseys with their dark pants, the Chiefs have to yet to unveil an all-red combination. When the Chiefs wear their red uniforms, they always wear white pants. The Chiefs have never worn an alternate jersey in a game, although gold jerseys with red numbers trimmed in white, and black jerseys with red numbers trimmed in gold, are sold for retail.
The white jersey–red pants combination was not used between 1989 (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/1989_Kansas_City_Chiefs_season) and 1999 (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/1999_Kansas_City_Chiefs_season), primarily during the period when Marty Schottenheimer (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Marty_Schottenheimer) was the team's head coach. In 2006, under new head coach Herman Edwards (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Herman_Edwards), the Chiefs wore white uniforms with white pants at home against the Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Cincinnati_Bengals).
Following Lamar Hunt (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Lamar_Hunt)'s death on December 13, 2006, the Chiefs wore the all-white combination for road games against the San Diego Chargers (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/San_Diego_Chargers) on December 17 and Oakland Raiders (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Oakland_Raiders) on December 23. It is said the all-white combination was a tribute to Hunt, who reportedly favored the all-white uniforms. The team wore the all-white combination in their playoff game versus the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.chiefscrowd.com/wiki/Indianapolis_Colts). The team did not wear the all-white combination during the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

And please don't refer to my opinion as asinine, white is not considered a true color rather the absence of color. black is a combination of colors yellow red and blue. although to be perfectly accurate black also is considered a hue and not a true color. asinine or not!

I'm aware of the history of their uniform combinations as I've read that wiki before.

I happen to be of the opinion that a change in uniforms is not necessarily a bad thing. Denver changed their uniforms and won two Super Bowls. The Patriots did also and have created a dynasty. If you look at the participants in the Super Bowl for the last decade the majority have made revisions in their uniforms in recent history. It's like buying a new suit before a big presentation, it's a shot of confidence, of shaking the past or a new way of thinking. The Chiefs haven't been to the Super Bowl in nearly 4 decades, maybe it's time to buy that new suit.

Chiefster

02-10-2012, 06:56 AM

The Green Bay Packers and the Pittsburgh Steelers have been able to do it without making a change to their uniforms.

AussieChiefsFan

02-10-2012, 07:12 AM

The Green Bay Packers and the Pittsburgh Steelers have been able to do it without making a change to their uniforms.

THIS!

As you would say, Chiefster.

Chiefster

02-10-2012, 08:38 AM

THIS!

As you would say, Chiefster.

:bananen_smilies046:

LOBBS

02-10-2012, 01:25 PM

The Green Bay Packers and the Pittsburgh Steelers have been able to do it without making a change to their uniforms.

I knew that would come up and actually the Packers and Steelers have made subtle changes to their uniforms over the years. Not complete overhauls mind you but much more than the Chiefs. They are also much more liberal in using their option to wear their throwback uniforms. Same goes for the Bears and Saints of the mentioned Super Bowl teams of the past decade. The Bears wear their alt orange jersey fairly often and their throwbacks. The Saints brought back their all-black uniforms and have been wearing their numerous throwbacks more often in recent years.

While the basic design has been the same since '68 they recently ('97) changed the font to the round numbers. They added the "new" throwback in 2007 and wear it as often as the NFL rules allow.

Just because you make changes to your uniforms does not mean you're giving up the teams heritage.

Chiefster

02-10-2012, 02:14 PM

I knew that would come up and actually the Packers and Steelers have made subtle changes to their uniforms over the years. Not complete overhauls mind you but much more than the Chiefs. They are also much more liberal in using their option to wear their throwback uniforms. Same goes for the Bears and Saints of the mentioned Super Bowl teams of the past decade. The Bears wear their alt orange jersey fairly often and their throwbacks. The Saints brought back their all-black uniforms and have been wearing their numerous throwbacks more often in recent years.

While the basic design has been the same since '68 they recently ('97) changed the font to the round numbers. They added the "new" throwback in 2007 and wear it as often as the NFL rules allow.

Just because you make changes to your uniforms does not mean you're giving up the teams heritage.

Fair enough, I just don't believe it has as much to do with the increase in quality team performance either. just my two cents.

LOBBS

02-10-2012, 02:28 PM

Fair enough, I just don't believe it has as much to do with the increase in quality team performance either. just my two cents.

Fair enough, but there is an abundance of coincidental evidence. Just like that new haircut, wardrobe, car, house or pair of shoes has that positive psychological boost it's impossible to quantify but it's there.

chiefnut

02-10-2012, 02:39 PM

I'm aware of the history of their uniform combinations as I've read that wiki before.

I happen to be of the opinion that a change in uniforms is not necessarily a bad thing. Denver changed their uniforms and won two Super Bowls. The Patriots did also and have created a dynasty. If you look at the participants in the Super Bowl for the last decade the majority have made revisions in their uniforms in recent history. It's like buying a new suit before a big presentation, it's a shot of confidence, of shaking the past or a new way of thinking. The Chiefs haven't been to the Super Bowl in nearly 4 decades, maybe it's time to buy that new suit.

the falcons fans might disagree.

talent, hard work, and a little luck wins championships not uniforms. the thing about a tradition is exactly that it is a tradition. when you change it you end it and you usually can't get it back.:punk:

AkChief49

02-10-2012, 05:02 PM

I knew that would come up and actually the Packers and Steelers have made subtle changes to their uniforms over the years. Not complete overhauls mind you but much more than the Chiefs. They are also much more liberal in using their option to wear their throwback uniforms. Same goes for the Bears and Saints of the mentioned Super Bowl teams of the past decade. The Bears wear their alt orange jersey fairly often and their throwbacks. The Saints brought back their all-black uniforms and have been wearing their numerous throwbacks more often in recent years.

While the basic design has been the same since '68 they recently ('97) changed the font to the round numbers. They added the "new" throwback in 2007 and wear it as often as the NFL rules allow.

Just because you make changes to your uniforms does not mean you're giving up the teams heritage.
uniform change I'm not totally opposed to. It's the color scheme. show me in our root (Texans) uniform the color black. You mentioned that the Donks and Pats changed theirs and won superbowls. But they stayed true to their colors. Black has never been, and hopefully never will be a dominant color in our scheme. I'm not knockin on your uni's. I do not like the black scheme for us period. Black outlines the arrowhead, ok. Now maybe a arrowhead down the leg....or, as long as it remained an arrowhead, maybe a more primitive/aggressive looking one on the helmet. but it must remain somewhat true to the original. If they keep the uni's like they are, I'm completely happy with that.

Does any one else hear their mom or dad saying: "if your friends jumped off a cliff, would you do it?":D

matthewschiefs

02-10-2012, 05:15 PM

the falcons fans might disagree.

talent, hard work, and a little luck wins championships not uniforms. the thing about a tradition is exactly that it is a tradition. when you change it you end it and you usually can't get it back.:punk:

THIS

The packers made slight changes to there jerseys and have won superbowls the Cowboys as well. Uniforms have nothing to do with who wins the superbowl NOTHING AT ALL