I didn't even realize you were active right now cause I had not refreshed the screen between posts!

let me find that link...

btw, I read your (??) comment elsewhere about the difference between openGL and openGL-B, and as I'd added the latter second I re-added the first (loaded open GL originally, then openGL-B, the openGL again)... now it crashes as soon as enlightenment loads lol

Had to revert to jwm for now...
Used the pupget package manager to remove opengl and am starting fresh (I hope)
Let me catch up here...

Both OpenGL-version include identical files, only libGL.so.1.2 is different, as this file is graficscarddependant in accellerated mode (DRI).
But without DRI both packages should act identical, as they provide software-emulation of old OpenGL 1.2 then.

That they can lead to crashes is new to me.
If you still encounter these problems after some testing, I might make a .tar.gz with different libGL.so.1.2 I can find in the web or my computer, so that you can find a working one by manually copying it.
But that would have to wait until tomorrow, I go asleep soon.

After removing openGL via the package manager I had no problems starting enlightenment, but it hung when I tried running epplets. So, checked ldd E-Clock.epplet, saw same missing as above, reinstalled openGL.pup (not -B), rebooted...

once more it hangs the moment enlightenment is brought up with your startenlightenment scripts (which is not in the .pup, or not in the right place maybe? I haven't looked, just couldn't call it)

So, here I am back in jwm for the moment. At least I'm learning stuff.

Oh, when I loaded openGL each time, including this one after using the package mgr to remove it first, I get a message saying three libGL, libGLU or something files already exist. Perhaps I need to remove them first, though it says it will overwrite them. I believe you can write a file when one is already there but not ln -s over an existing file or link, so if it is really adding a link and not a file in those spots perhaps that is the problem? I'll have to check if I am even correct about the file vs slink difference.

Hey, I got enlightenment installed this morning and spent all day messing around with it.. man is it awesome

One thing I wasn't able to figure out was the little dot that appears in the bottom right corner of desktop 0 (see attachment). It doesn't appear to do anything when I click it and I can't move it around (even with alt pressed), so I figure it must be some indicator that yes, I am on desktop 0. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have different backgrounds on all my desktops anyway so it's no hard to figure out which one I'm on.

(on a side note, after a lot of messing around I found that as far as terminals with "transparent" backgrounds working with multiple background images only Eterm seems to work. So if anyone else was having trouble with this search for eterm in the forum and you should find the eterm dotpup)

One thing I wasn't able to figure out was the little dot that appears in the bottom right corner of desktop 0 (see attachment). It doesn't appear to do anything when I click it and I can't move it around (even with alt pressed), so I figure it must be some indicator that yes, I am on desktop 0. Is there any way to get rid of this? I have different backgrounds on all my desktops anyway so it's no hard to figure out which one I'm on.

I belive that it has to do with getting copy and past to work in older apps such as RXVT. I think you can edit the start up script and keep it from coming on. It appears in all window managers, not just enlightenment.

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