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Btw, Haxorus isn't banned, or even a suspect. This is mainly due to the fact that it's speed stat is just a few stats short of the (previously) golden mark of 100, leaving him outsped by a number of Pokemon in that area, as well as Hydreigon. That, combined with its lack of strong bulk, makes it easier to keep Haxorus at bay, although it still has the power to bust holes in teams.

Even if he had good speed his frailness is still an issue with priority moves like Bullet Punch, something which Excadrill can handle.

I am a roleplayer. I have fun hanging out in the RP section of the forums. If you have a problem with that then I invite you to dance forever.

Haxorus' Attack and Speed are comparable to Rayquaza's. Unlike the emerald dragon, Haxorus can't run mixed offences nor does it have good defences to back it up. None the less, I still think its access to Mold Breaker, X-Scissor, and Dual Chop are giant pluses it has over Rayquaza balancing it out.

I like Haxy, he can outspeed most things and if you get a couple DD's up after eliminating threats he sh*** on people. I have a log of me sweeping a guy at the end of the game with it giving me a narrow 1-0

Originally Posted by Blue Harvest

I call hax, type some random racial slur all in caps, then ragequit.

Originally Posted by Blue Harvest

I wish I was joking, but based off all the naked fights in my front lawn I do pretty well assuming the person isn't trying to kill me.

Exactly. It's mainly the combination of all of it's assets, combined with the fact that it's hard to counter.

Btw, Haxorus isn't banned, or even a suspect. This is mainly due to the fact that it's speed stat is just a few stats short of the (previously) golden mark of 100, leaving him outsped by a number of Pokemon in that area, as well as Hydreigon. That, combined with its lack of strong bulk, makes it easier to keep Haxorus at bay, although it still has the power to bust holes in teams.

It could have been a major problem but they should have banned Sand rush Excadrill and speed boost Blaziken not an all out ban. It would have been better.

I was actually on your side of your argument in early 5th gen, but I've changed my mind since then.

It would be too complicated, and the line has to be drawn somewhere. If that happened, people would start wanting sky-form shaymin and darkrai in OU, just without seed flare and dark void. After that, people would want certain pokemon to be banned if they didn't have certain moves, like Groudon/Kyogre only allowed with moves with 60 base power or under. After that...it'll just be too complicated.

And that line I mentioned? It was drawn at "simple bans". A pokemon is banned, or it isn't. No exceptions.

tbh i miss exca, but the banning of him, thundurus, and deoxys s has made the meta alot healthier, and has(for the most part) stopped overcentralizing. The banning of these guys has allowed countless more pokes to b viable again, and makes teams alot more unique, rather than the cookie cutter sand team

tbh i miss exca, but the banning of him, thundurus, and deoxys s has made the meta alot healthier, and has(for the most part) stopped overcentralizing. The banning of these guys has allowed countless more pokes to b viable again, and makes teams alot more unique, rather than the cookie cutter sand team

Yeah ever since these recent bans have came, I've seen many more mons sneak onto the ladder, and it's more fun IMO

I was actually on your side of your argument in early 5th gen, but I've changed my mind since then.

It would be too complicated, and the line has to be drawn somewhere. If that happened, people would start wanting sky-form shaymin and darkrai in OU, just without seed flare and dark void. After that, people would want certain pokemon to be banned if they didn't have certain moves, like Groudon/Kyogre only allowed with moves with 60 base power or under. After that...it'll just be too complicated.

And that line I mentioned? It was drawn at "simple bans". A pokemon is banned, or it isn't. No exceptions.

My point was to only limit the bann to specific abilities broken that make certian pokemon broken but to allow those abilities(with the exception of moody) to be legal in Ubers only(in any case groundon with only 60 base power moves is still groundon same with Kyogre and with stab water pulse that would have 135 power which still hurts.)

My point was to only limit the bann to specific abilities broken that make certian pokemon broken but to allow those abilities(with the exception of moody) to be legal in Ubers only(in any case groundon with only 60 base power moves is still groundon same with Kyogre and with stab water pulse that would have 135 power which still hurts.)

The general rule of thumb is that if one Pokemon asset is inherently broken (like Moody), you ban the asset. If it's just one or a small few Pokemon that make the asset broken (like Sand Rush Excadrill and Speed Boost Blaziken), you ban the Pokemon. It's the easiest way to avoid extensive banning and complex bans.