Transcript: Greg Quinlan Unplugged and Unhinged

A few days ago, Evan posted on “ex-gay” activist Greg Quinlan’s interview with Bradlee Dean/Jake McMillan “Sons Of Liberty” radio show. (7/2/13) Those who follow the “ex-gay” industry know that Quinlan is an unhinged, pathological liar, and a very sick man. Here is a partial transcript of key moments from the radio gig. We hope LGBT advocates will share this link and use it each time Quinlan appears in state houses or Congress to give his “ex-gays” are victims spiel.

TRANSCRIPT

“I was an activist, trained by the Human Rights Campaign fund, as it was called then. I just turned 55, so that gives away my age, but they basically trained me to do what I’m doing now, which is grassroots activism, how to read legislation, how to lobby my elected officials. As I put it, “what the Devil trained me to do, I can now use for the Lord.” But, in the process of that, too, I am fighting for the traditional values, our liberty, which I think was just taken away from us. When the vote of the people does not stand, when the legislature and their abilities to make laws no longer matters and five black-robed Nazis decide to change all of that, to accommodate their own personal predilections, including their own sexuality, then we’ve got a problem. We’re in serious trouble. The public’s in trouble.

(host asks if he knows about Elena Kagan)

“Oh I absolutely know Elena Kagan’s background. In fact I met Elena Kagan a long time ago, back in the early ‘90’s. That was at the Human Rights Campaign fund get-together, I forget what it was, but that’s when I met her. And I do remember that it was towards the end of Reagan’s administration, when I was just getting involved in the homosexual politics, for the express reason that I’m a nurse, I’m a registered nurse, and I became an AIDS nurse because of the AIDS epidemic and watched a hundred of my friends and acquaintances die of AIDS before I quit counting, that’s why I got involved in this, because of the AIDS epidemic, not because of gay rights, but I got sucked into that. But also, too, that Mr. Kennedy has a predilection on the down low, Justice Kennedy, that was the rumor that was around back then, now, thirty years ago, really.

(host suggests that that’s why the SCOTUS ruled the way it did, and Quinlan adds, “with a down low President.”)

(host asks what the “end” of the struggle is for “homosexual activists,” the “end of the church?”)

“You said it. It’s the end of the Church. What stands in the way of us doing what we want to do? What’s in the way of us having sex with who you want to have it, no matter how old they are, any way we want to have it? It’s the Church. The Constitution of the United States is a Christian document, in fact it’s a Calvinist document. I happen to be an Arminian. But it’s a Calvinist document. It’s clearly a Christian document. So what stands in the way? It’s the Constitution of the United States. What stands in the way? It’s the Church of Jesus Christ. And in order to change this government, to change the mightiest government that ever existed, because it’s founded on God Almighty’s truth and principles, is to destroy it so that they can do what they want to do, have sex the way they want to have it, and the only way they can do it is to shut us up.

(host suggests that homosexuals are being “used” to destroy America, like “civilizations of old,” and will be destroyed again.)

“Absolutely, that’s what happened in Nazi Germany.”

“It’s the butch, the masculine types that still participate in homosexuality, and that’s exactly what happened in the concentration camps, that’s exactly what the SS were.”

(random host babble about Rachel Maddow. The host, Bradlee Dean sued Maddow for $50,000,000 and got laughed out of court and ordered to pay her legal fees. This leads to juvenile banter over whether Maddow is “butch” or “femme.”)

“She would definitely be a butch, but she’s a butch that has to be a femme, means that she has to put on lipstick.”

(Hosts are thrilled that they get to make lesbian jokes, because they have a gay guy with them. Excuse me, “ex-gay” guy. Next they say gays are coming for your kids. Host says “they want little boys.”)

Quinlan adds, “little boys and little girls.”

Clip ends.

About the Author

Wayne Besen is the Founding Executive Director of Truth Wins Out and author of “Anything But Straight: Unmasking the Scandals and Lies Behind the Ex-Gay Myth” (Haworth, 2003). In 2010, Besen was awarded the “Visionary Award” at the Out Music Awards for organizing the American Prayer Hour, an event which shined a spotlight on the role American evangelicals played in the introduction of Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill.

13 Comments

Paul DouglasJuly 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm -

Greg Quinlan is an RN? That should be verifiable. He had to graduate from an accredited institution and he had to pass state boards somewhere. I would be very curious if he is or ever was, actually licensed. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Greg Quinlan is a liar. Every word he says must be verified. He never worked for the Human Rights Campaign. When I worked at HRC, I asked people in Ohio about him. No one at the local HRC said they remembered him. At best, he licked a few stamps in a basement.

RainbowPhoenixJuly 9, 2013 at 2:05 pm -

How has this man not had a butterfly net put over him?

TomJuly 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm -

You better believe we need to shut them the hell up. Wayne, I hope you have your spycam on this guy so he can be caught in the act like that other freak, John Paulk.

To his credit, John Paulk has apologized and is working to make things right.

Quinlan is a different story. I don’t think he has a very firm grasp of reality. He may need professional help and vigorous treatment of some sort.

ChrisJuly 9, 2013 at 2:56 pm -

You are so right, Wayne. He acts as if he is in a hypomanic to manic state. Unfortunately, he will have to have a major meltdown before he is committed for treatment and will have caused untold damage. Sad case and a dangerous man.

ScottJuly 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm -

Gads, you guys need hazard pay to handle both Quinlan and Bradlee Dean and company for long periods of time. I hope you found a way to prevent brain damage due to too much exposure to that much crazy.

DanielJuly 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm -

I feel kind of bad listening to him. It’s kind of like with Michelle Shocked–it seems like it could be mental illness.

Jim StoneJuly 9, 2013 at 9:15 pm -

I think people like him are thrashing around in their internal homophobic closets. They are frustrated when they see more and more gay male couples getting married, having children and finding happiness. They are jealous and desire to demonize the out and proud gay folk who are happy and healthy.

GianniJuly 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm -

It is all so much the same but repackaged nonsense. With God on their side, and they know his will, heart, mind, hatreds, likes, dislikes, and shoe size, they can’t lose. And, of course, he dishes up the same old hash: WE are a Christian nation; the Constitution is a Christian document; the founding fathers ALL believed in GOD, ergo: they wanted to form a Christian nation; our laws are based on Judeo-Christian principles; etc. All just the same old lying crap. Put it all in a heap and it’s the same old dung. Lying good-for-nothings doing what they do best: anything so as not to have to work for a living.

(lower case) emmaJuly 15, 2013 at 12:09 pm -

oh, wow he used to be gay? and he knows about people on “the down low?”? my God he must know about the gays on the supreme court, and the president, or maybe he saw the same stupid episode of Oprah.

JessicaJuly 15, 2013 at 1:33 pm -

We’ve all seen it. When someone is caught out in a stonkingly obvious lie, what do they do?
What they are more likely to do is try and turn the tables. Say anything that comes into their head and reinforce the lie with more outrageous and obvious lies just to keep your attention.
They get to a point where even they do not know what they are talking about, just making more and more stuff up to remain relevant rather than admit; I never thought that in the first place.
Greg Quinlan has reached that place.
I don’t think he is mentally ill. I think he has been caught out in and surrounded himself by so many lies he doesn’t know where to turn and is frantically piling crap upon crap rather than stand back and say; OK, I was wrong.
The sad thing is, when he sees there is no way out and hopefully becomes true to himself, the very people he is condemning as haters and persecutors will stand by him and accept him, while those he tries to impress will drop him like a hot potato.

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