Do we actualy need 2 more difficulties and loot types?
What the fuck is wrong with those guys

People asked for this ever since Sartharion(?) Anyways, its still a good method to add a progression feeling, like already said with Sartharion drakes, Yogg'Saron Watchers, Iron Council, etc.

Originally Posted by Tryana

Also keeping raids closed because they know all normals will fall in 3 days after launch again.

I'd say they are learning from past mistakes. This simple change takes away the pressure to nerd for 20 hours straight and then clear the raid instances befor anyone else can even enter. See 3.0 raids - people went into Naxxramas25 and Sartharion's Lair and got the Realm First!'s, unfortunately, not deserved.

People who got WFs/SFs in the past will still get them, since there's no competition left with several great guilds who disbanded.

---------- Post added 2012-08-02 at 07:52 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Voidmaster

Daily blink might just at well quit making new "funny" images. It was once funny but stopped being so months ago and it is getting worse with each new picture.

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

I think its a good idea, so you still have 1 raid to race for until the others come out. Less time spent racing unless there is a big road block that i am unaware. I dont think blizzard wants world first raiders to die irl because they spent x hours to lvl then xyz hours to get world first in all 3 raids.

I play many games. WoW, Rift, D3, PoE, SC2 I will not criticize your game choice if you don't mine.

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

lol Get a grip they are trying not to make mistakes with what happened last time and have people bored with a raid to soon and or trying to let the content last a bit longer. So what if it is a week for MSV then have the others open later.

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

So people will have to compete on the basis of skill rather than who can level to 90 fastest? Oh no!

Can the "only those that did it the hard way!" finally be quiet now with the "Cutting Edge" achievements being put in. One can argue that anyone can get a Heroic "Random Raid Boss Here" achievement - at least eventually; whereas these will be very restricted to those few that manage to do it faster and better than the unwashed masses below them, that they mock from their Ivory Tower.

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

You made no sense at all, seriously.

If you want competition, then why you dont let the other guilds catch up in terms of level and equipment. It'll be as competing as every content patch beginning.

It's because one group like Paragon or whatever (who represent the TINIEST portion of elite raiders) would clear the raids within two weeks and then the greener raiders (the ones who will spend the next months on normal) will complain that Blizz didn't make enough content before they even set foot in a raid.

As for the achievements, good news. Now the elitist raiders can feel like unique special snowflakes (which let's be honest is all they really wanted) and a wider audience can experience the raids.

Why not just release LFR right away? Like that one week matters... Looks more like an excuse to fall back on later than to actually cater to guilds.

And how nice that they want to pace content consumption but not want to artificially extend the life of the 5.0 content. Let's make it easier but not release more content but instead just pace it... At least you get to see all the content and it doesn't 'feel like a grind', that is untill you are experienced and faceroll through it.
Let's hope normal isn't cleared in one week time (by over 50% of all guilds and pugs) otherwise every group that doesn't want to do hardmodes can farm their asses off for a month.

Raiders complain they have to raid LFR to get the improvements.
They don't, really. The set bonuses are there in normal and heroic as well, and the item level is even higher.

Actually, in Mists of Pandaria, each new LFR tier will have an increased minimum ilevel requirement, so there'll be a natural progression path as the expansion goes on. This means that players will start running Heroic dungeons in order to gear up to hit the minimum ilevel for the first tier of LFR, then get gear from this first LFR tier to access the second, and so on.

However, it won't be mandatory to go through the LFR system if you're raiding normal or Heroic raids.

And since you'll probably ask, I'll answer pre-emptively, at this moment the developers are not ready to talk about possible 5-man Heroic dungeons with higher requirements that might come in future Mists of Pandaria patches.

I guess they don't play the game themselves.

There is no reason at all to not take such good gear by doing such an easy dungeon. The rewards are simply too high. Even if I was doing hardmodes I would still take 1 hour a week to finish LFR for a possible (insane) upgrade. Maybe I am missing a trinket or a tier piece that will give me the bonus, I would be an idiot if I passed on LFR.

Besides that, players who want to join a guild have to do LFR. No guild will accept someone who says "I don't do LFR. I will just stick with these shitty previous tier or even 5 man gear.", isn't this obvious after whole expansions and thousands of threads?

LFR should just be there to practice and see the content not to give you insane gear.

No raids the entire first week? And 2nd + 3rd Normal raids opened 35 days after expansion release. I am sorry but what the fuck is this? I mean... Is Blizzard trying to kill off every last guild that has some sense of competition so they can just stop making raids all together?

The Daily Blink is for you kid. I bet you don't think it is funny.

Also: 5 versions of items. I have a feeling this still won't make the Unique snowflakes happy. They got unique looking items in Challenge modes and we got complaints they are not powerful. Now we have powerful items and I am waiting for the complaints how they are not unique looking enough.

In the end for some it does seem to boil down to GTFO out of "my" raid content.

---------- Post added 2012-08-02 at 11:12 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Gilian

Let's hope normal isn't cleared in one week time (by over 50% of all guilds and pugs) otherwise every group that doesn't want to do hardmodes can farm their asses off for a month.

No matter what you might think or claim, normal was NEVER cleared by 50% of the guilds in the first week. Especially not by PuGs. Take a look at DS on wowprogression: After 6 months and a 30% debuff, 84% have cleared it on normal. There is no bloody way this % stood at 50% 5 months and 3 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....

LFR is a week after so those idiots who think it's "Required" to do, cant do it, and will have to do normal 1st. You would think this would make them happier but fat chance on that.
TBH I'm all for gating content, stops people no-lifeing the game for 20 hours straight all in the name of "Progression"

No matter what you might think or claim, normal was NEVER cleared by 50% of the guilds in the first week. Especially not by PuGs. Take a look at DS on wowprogression: After 6 months and a 30% debuff, 84% have cleared it on normal. There is no bloody way this % stood at 50% 5 months and 3 weeks ago.

Obviously I am talking about guilds that actually raid. 84% of ALL guilds killed normal deathwing 95% - 97% killed all the other bosses. 30-40% is already too much. I don't think 35% is a weird number when basically everyone cleared DS by now.

I said "Let's hope". I didn't claim shit. I just pulled a number out of my ass to make a point. Instead of discussing that point you have to go on about numbers, great.