There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance.

Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong person, healthy in all ways except their terminal illness (for instance, brain cancer) it is necessary for the person wishing be certain to die to drink two bottles of it (12 gms).

I base this on case reports reaching me from around the world. Support for the two bottle method comes also from the customary dose of Nembutal used in the Oregon law as being 9 gms, while Dignitas in Switzerland prescribes 12 gms. I have heard of delays or failure by some using the one-only bottle strategy.

Also, getting vet.Nembutal over the Internet is not easy, plus the price rises from the average of $30 per bottle in a Mexican store to as much as $800 each via an intermediary.

Caveat emptor.

While it may sound convenient visiting a Mexican border town, it is wiser to go to an inland city where life is calmer.

44 Responses to “Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal”

Sorry about your terminal cancer. To study your options for the end of life, suggest you read ‘Final Exit’ paperback or digital download. This is not something that can be dealt with in a blog posting.

I can vouch for the truth that one bottle of Mexican nembutal is not enough to end the life of a relatively healthy person. I took 100ml in early October 2009 only to end up in the Intensive Care Unit of St George Hospital in Sydney, Australia.

Please take at least 200ml, otherwise you’ll survive

I don’t want to comment too much on my case on a public forum, but if you would like to ask questions, please feel free to email me at cinthiaandmia@gmail.com

I’m probably a few months out from taking any action, so I am researching while I’m still capable.

Can you offer any verified input on the dosage required in cases of obesity? I haven’t yet found any case histories or hard medical evidence addressing this variable. At 280 lbs (approx 128 kg), I have concerns. Just as 6mg may suffice for the older, frail person, I have some lingering anxiety that 10-12mg may not take me fully through.

(Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. I read “Final Exit” in 1992 and even then — during my marathoning days — began thinking about and preparing notes on what I might do if, say, I sustained some unpredictably crucial injury.)

cbr –
I’ve never seen any stats on obesity and self-deliverance, but we do know from a few experiences when the Oregon physician-assisted suicide law is used that overweight people take longer to die when they’ve drunk the usual prescribed 9 grams of Seconal or Nembutal. (They’re in a coma, thus not cognitive.) I think if they had also drunk some strong alcohol it would have been faster.

Hello. I want to start by saying that I am truly grateful for the existence of this site and those like it. Any knowledge I am able to obtain on this topic will only serve to better prepare me to make an educated and informed decision. I would like to also thank Derek for his tireless assistance in providing so much assistance in personally addressing our inquiries. Anyway, I have heard that many people “chase” Nembutal with alcohol, but have also seen where “diluting” it, with alcohol or any other liquid, to help oneself better deal with its bitter taste, might decrease its potency, and result in ……. Forgive me for being clueless, but why is alright to take the Nembutal and “then” drink an alcoholic beverage, but “not” pour the Nembutal into the alcoholic beverage and then drink it? There doesn’t “seem” to be much “time” difference between the two methods.DEREK HUMPHRY REPLIES: Taking alcohol (preferably vodka or brandy) enhances the lethality of Nembutal, and — as the book ‘Final Exit’ says — it is wise to strengthen the drug with a quick drink, neat, from a glass.

I purchased Nembutal and feel a lot more confident as i now have the power to choose my own Exit. I would hate to be a burden on someone, in case if you guys want a genuine seller contact Unique chemicals, that is where i got My N from . their E-Add is un.chem at live. Have a blessed Day.

Hello,
I am very confused. I purchased 2 bottles of Pisabental from Mexico. Each bottle is 100 ml. The taste is so terrible, I don’t know how anyone could drink 2 bottles of it. Can it be injected? I am a small woman dying of cancer. I do not want to end up in the ICU at some hospital from underdosing myself. Can anyone tell me how much to drink or inject, and if alcohol is not something I can keep down because I think I would just vomit this stuff up, any suggestions please.

Re the veterinary Nembutal obtainable from Mexico. If a terminally ill person who can no longer suffer and wishes to die, then the two bottles have to be swallowed whole. The taste is awful, but if drunk quickly it works. Nobody has found a way of improving the taste. To drink just a little, or heavily dilute it, would be risky. It could be injected, but if this was done by another person then this would risk criminal liability.

I’m going the helium route (two tanks, two hoses- I’ve heard a lot of those tanks sold for balloons can be almost empty, no way to check the levels) after some Xanax, some Elavil, and lots of booze- still, I’m scared ‘to death’ (pun intended) that something might not work. So I think a multi- substance route is a good safety net. I hear 30,000 Americans suicide every year, but another 100,000 might try and fail? That cannot happen with me.

hillarys- if you read the author’s book(s) and watch the video (The Suicide Plan), I recall they mention taking anti-emetics (anti nausea medicine) prior to attempt a lethal dose of other medications, to help be sure you don’t vomit. Some common ones (USA) are Compazine and Phenergan. They require a prescription, but won’t raise any suspicions from your doctor if you request them. And not only do they work like champs- they have an added side effect of causing calmness. And they are as cheap as aspirin. Spend a few bucks reading the author’s books, to prevent the possibility of you making mistakes that are easily avoidable. Best of luck to you~

Hi everyone. I was wondering as some of the posts are slightly older. Is it still possible to buy liquid Nembutal in Mexico and if so can anyone advise how easy it is to do this? I am from the UK and I am in a position to travel to Mexico to try and acquire Nembutal but don’t wish to waste my time.
Also apologies if this information is posted somewhere else on the forum, I am a new user.

It is still possible to purchase veterinary Nembutal in Mexico, but hardest to do so near the border with US because of bad publicity and drugs warfare. Inland pet stores are still stocking it. Bringing medications over the border for one’s own use is OK but of course large quantities are not legal.

Well, I planned my suicide well, I thought. I took anti emetics through the day of 15th August 2014. I had a few glasses of wine and cider in the afternoon, intending to drink my 2 bottles of Nembutal (630ml each) on my return home. Which I did, then settled in a chair, in my garage, with music on, around 8pm I think. My wife discovered me at 3am on 16th August and phoned the emergency services. I spent the next 9 days sedated in the ICU. I’m now out of hospital and possibly in worse condition than before the overdose. The consultant in ICU told me that low temperatures that evening may have “saved” me because of it’s effect on the viscosity of the nembutal but also that another half an hour and they wouldn’t have been able to “help”. I had three cardiac arrests.
I am at a loss as to where I go from here.

Nobody can survive that much Nembutal, properly taken. But research has shown that in a very few cases it takes longer than usual to be effective. The size of the person, their strength, the conditions can sometimes need up to ten hours to work. The doctor was probably right in saying there was not enough time elapsed for it to work.

re-for tammyot…
It’s true that is easy to purchase the vet.nembutal in vet pharmacies, but don’t try border cities like Tijuana and other cities near the border line, they don’t sell it that easy and if someone sell it to you, you end up paying a fortune for it . If you are in condition to travel to Mexico go little south of the border line. I moved to Mexico last year to spend my final days / months here and I chose Mazatlan Mexico… It was so easy to get the sodium pentobarbital here, it cost only 22 us dollars per bottle (about 285 Mexican pesos.

What I can’t understand is how people take nembutal and end up in hospital for days with serious side effects yet I watch videos from these assisted dying places like Dignitas and the people drink the drink and within a few minutes they are peacefully asleep without side effects.

I had a question about veterinary pentobarbital (Pisabental). How long, if at all, will it remain effective after the stated expiration date? If the bottle lists an expiration date over two years ago, will it have degraded to a point of no longer being effective? Thank you for your help. How many grams (one bottle contains 6.3 grams) be required two years past the expiration date?

Provided the sealed cap on a bottle of Vet.Nembutal is not broken, and it is kept unopened in a cool, dark place, it should be good for at least five years. Ingesting two bottles of the 6.3 grams mixture would, anyway, take care of any possible slight deterioration. One bottle is lethal but two work faster with greater certaintude.

Thank you for your fast response. I hate to sound naïve, but how cool is cool? If the bottle has been keep at room temperature (about 70-75 degrees Fahrenheit, 21 + Celsius) would that greatly degrade the mixture? Would 2 bottles still suffice with certainty? Thank you again.

Hello,
Although rare, having read several cases of people requiring a longer time to die with veterinary nembutal – does Dilantin (Phenytoin sodium) take away the possibility of having an extended coma, after ingesting a lethal dose of Nembutal?

1) Is there any specific “names” of stores, where patients (or people who go with the patient have been)successfully bought the medication of Nembutal (since it is advised as the best) and the products are not fake?

2) What was the dosage used to give a peaceful death to the suffering patient?

3) Is there any other advice to give to people who want to end their suffering, they learned from being in the presence of a person or heard, who have taken taken medication, that should not be repeated that was a mistake?

I’m doing this alone and I don’t want to suffer during the process of any pain during ending of my life, or wake up with any health issues and still alive, period!

I forgot to add, does anyone know where to buy potassium cyanide where it is not suspicicious and can just enough to die fast? Manufacturers won’t sell the product, unless you are a company and buy in large quantities. It is a product that German militant in WW2 used to kill themselves.

babybunnie: As it seems you live in Canada, it would be advisable to approach your own doctor and ask for legal assisted dying under the new law which recently took effect allowing doctors to help the terminally to die if they wish.

Hallo, i wrote before e few days one post with a 3 questions in this place. It is deleted? Have i hope a to recieve a answer from the moderator or it is just deleted without any comment or answer? If so it would be nice to hear why. Thank you for your time and iam hoping to hear from you soon. best regards

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