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I saw this movie -- and I have to say that all the musical excerpts of Beethoven, Mozart, etc. were quite exquisitely played by the London Philharmonic. I think the music stuck in my head more than the actual movie =P

In the absence of anything remotely correct regarding history (maybe one needs to be a Tory or a Republican) perhaps we have to indeed fall back on the music.

'Amadeus' was good clean fun, and WOW! what great music, it was almost easy to overlook the idiocies (no one will be harmed), but 'The King's Speech' falls into a hysterically sentimental 'pulling of the heart strings'. Why not glamorize Nazi Germany?

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Originally Posted By: fuzzy8balls

I saw this movie -- and I have to say that all the musical excerpts of Beethoven, Mozart, etc. were quite exquisitely played by the London Philharmonic. I think the music stuck in my head more than the actual movie =P

fuzzy, was there original music by the film composer (Alexandre Desplat)???

I saw this movie -- and I have to say that all the musical excerpts of Beethoven, Mozart, etc. were quite exquisitely played by the London Philharmonic. I think the music stuck in my head more than the actual movie =P

fuzzy, was there original music by the film composer (Alexandre Desplat)???

There must have been; Desplat was nominated for a Golden Globe for "Best Original Score" for "The King's Speech."

In the absence of anything remotely correct regarding history (maybe one needs to be a Tory or a Republican) perhaps we have to indeed fall back on the music.

'Amadeus' was good clean fun, and WOW! what great music, it was almost easy to overlook the idiocies (no one will be harmed), but 'The King's Speech' falls into a hysterically sentimental 'pulling of the heart strings'. Why not glamorize Nazi Germany?

There's a few historical liberties taken (like the crowds outside the palace in one scene) but nothing much that distorts the general picture I think? What did you find? Are you just reacting to the IDEA of a monarchy? There have been films about Nazi Germany that go beyond a strictly documentary approach. Do you reject them too? But for sheer glamourisation you can't top Mel Brooks' "Springtime for Hitler" :-)

In the absence of anything remotely correct regarding history (maybe one needs to be a Tory or a Republican) perhaps we have to indeed fall back on the music.

'Amadeus' was good clean fun, and WOW! what great music, it was almost easy to overlook the idiocies (no one will be harmed), but 'The King's Speech' falls into a hysterically sentimental 'pulling of the heart strings'. Why not glamorize Nazi Germany?

On the contrary, the liberties regarding history were modest and were essentially artistic licence to serve the drama.

We have really gone astray from the original post of this thread. That is- the frequent use of Beethoven's music in the film.

Out of curiosity, I tried to find what the movie critics thought of the film. Afterall, they're the experts. Right?

Surprisingly (or maybe not so), the combined score was an 88 out of a possible 100, based on 41 critics from all over the country. The well-respected Roger Ebert gave it a 100. Stephanie Zacharek from "Movieline" had this to say:

We know this is a true story that has been folded, trimmed and wedged into a piece of dramatic fiction. But strict veracity aside, it’s such a relief, and a pleasure, to care about people and things we see in a movie. The real strength of The King’s Speech is that it allows us to care deeply about those little princesses and their parents in movie terms, rather than in real-life ones. And that’s our job when we go to the movies.

I guess those "mollycoddling boots" I wear, according to btb, are a fairly popular line of footwear.

Kathleen

Edited by loveschopintoomuch (02/14/1110:30 AM)

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Out of curiosity, I tried to find what the movie critics thought of the film. Afterall, they're the experts. Right?

No, Kathleen, they are not the experts on many of the issues that we have been talking about as this thread wandered away from "Beethoven as Background Music." People like Roger Ebert may think they are capable of writing historical commentary as they relax in their proverbial armchair, but that would be hubris at best. His opinions on the "true story" nature of this film carry no more weight than, say, ..... mine.

The Social Network (IMO a far better film) was just too hip and damned with faint praise.

TSN was a snappily written little movie, tho very much a monet of a haystack. having been in sw & webdev much of my adult life i can say with some certainty that much of the intrigue portrayed in TSN boils down to long hours in meeting rooms and at computers figuring out very difficult technical problems (e.g. usability, reliability, maintainability, scalability, performance) to deliver a better mousetrap than anyone else. the idea of facebook has been around for @ 15 years, but zuckerberg nailed the implementation to create the killer app.

TSN was a snappily written little movie, tho very much a monet of a haystack. having been in sw & webdev much of my adult life i can say with some certainty that much of the intrigue portrayed in TSN boils down to long hours in meeting rooms and at computers figuring out very difficult technical problems (e.g. usability, reliability, maintainability, scalability, performance) to deliver a better mousetrap than anyone else. the idea of facebook has been around for @ 15 years, but zuckerberg nailed the implementation to create the killer app.

Very nice post, Entheo. I remember reading that Huffington article -and Vargas's profile of Zuckerberg in The New Yorker- some months before I saw the film. That said, I'm not inclined to be as critical of the film as Vargas is. Yes, I understand and agree with many of his points, but I think the film was a little more alert to its subject than Vargas gives it credit for.

The first scene alone is worth the price of admission, and a friend and I backtracked the DVD twice to savour it!

I really loved TSN and my husband couldn't stand it. Well, he actually liked the movie but couldn't stand most of the characters. (Since I am attending college in my old age, I am much more understanding.)