tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post6491772461414931291..comments2015-08-01T15:26:21.678-04:00Comments on RealChoice: The unmistakable, undeniable, clear impact of legalized abortion on maternal mortalityChristina Duniganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-27330428201863877232014-07-02T07:47:10.465-04:002014-07-02T07:47:10.465-04:00Great article! On the chart of abortion deaths, wh...Great article! On the chart of abortion deaths, what is the significance of the purple and orange areas?Brandon Bronaughhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15090447052413501916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-15332784823607481302008-12-28T11:55:00.000-05:002008-12-28T11:55:00.000-05:00GG, another suggestion for improving the persuasiv...GG, another suggestion for improving the persuasiveness of your blog. Add the following to your FAQ section: "What do you say to those who admit that the fetus is a live person but claim that the mother's entitled to have it killed anyway because of its location inside her body and/or its dependence on her life-support functions, which she owns and is entitled to switch off, particularly in order to avoid the medical/surgical trauma of childbirth, even at the cost of killing the fetus?"<BR/><BR/>Maybe make the question shorter, but be sure to address everything in the long version when writing the answer.SoMGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-48371118654197663302008-12-28T10:54:00.000-05:002008-12-28T10:54:00.000-05:00Joe, we're trying to be a little more serious here...Joe, we're trying to be a little more serious here.<BR/><BR/>The important thing is we will never know how many abortions would have been done absent Roe/Wade. And if abortion is banned, you will never know whether it decreases, leaves constant, or RAISES the abortion rates. Yes, it could raise them. For some women it would be easier to buy black-market misoprostol than it is to go to a doc today. Learn about the Philippines, yes it's a small dirt-poor country but it's still the best model of right-to-lifism in action on the planet. Or, something else could raise abortion rates and we wouldn't detect it because of the ban.<BR/><BR/>You'd replace the current abortion rates with question marks. NOT lower numbers.<BR/><BR/>The Ban Abortion Movement is a scam. Would you buy into a process for turning lead into gold but it only works if you don't look at the gold or try to measure it???SoMGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-4295424946733193322008-12-28T10:45:00.000-05:002008-12-28T10:45:00.000-05:00GG that's an interesting hypothesis.GG that's an interesting hypothesis.SoMGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-17218022841007903792008-12-28T10:42:00.000-05:002008-12-28T10:42:00.000-05:00There were actually FAR MORE abortion deaths after...There were actually FAR MORE abortion deaths after Roe vs Wade than before (if you properly consider unborn children to be real human beings, which they are). Since Roe vs Wade, 50,000,000 human beings have been killed by abortion violence (25,000,000 of whom were women). If you consider that many millions of children would still have been killed by their mothers without legalization over forty years (but still far fewer than actually were), I think it is reasonable to assume that Roe vs Wade cost the lives of 15 to 20 MILLION women.<BR/><BR/>These young women would be living their lives today just like any other human beings. They are not because by the millions their lives were cruelly taken from them by abortion violence. <BR/><BR/>This is one of the central paradoxes of abortionist "thinking". They claim to support "women's rights" but believe in using abortion violence to destroy the lives of ALL women (and ALL men) in the unborn stage. It is completely absurd for them to talk about "saving women's lives" when they have killed more women than anyone else ever has or ever will.<BR/><BR/>In fact the abortion movement is the greatest danger that women and humanity have ever faced.Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17386646544581759402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-40539752553219987192008-12-28T08:41:00.000-05:002008-12-28T08:41:00.000-05:00I wonder if it was the same thing that caused the ...I wonder if it was the same thing that caused the abrupt drop in hospital admissions for abortion complications in California in 1970. Which was that they started doing the abortions IN THE HOSPITALS, so that the women were already in the hospital when they suffered a lot of their complications. PRESTO! Fewer admissions for complications!GrannyGrumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-56163384917199982132008-12-28T07:17:00.000-05:002008-12-28T07:17:00.000-05:00GG, I know you're mainly interested in USA, but si...GG, I know you're mainly interested in USA, but since you have at least a branch interest in what lowers abortion mortality GENERALLY, you should research the following question:<BR/><BR/>What caused the ABRUPT 95% drop in hospital admissions for abortion complications in South Africa in the mid 1990s (I think it was 1995)?SoMGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-48239337729832465912008-12-28T01:28:00.000-05:002008-12-28T01:28:00.000-05:00I think "reality" is actually a spambot that crawl...I think "reality" is actually a spambot that crawls the webs for blog postings with years in them, then automatically generates a number of pregnancy deaths for that year. Which probably puzzles people at sports blogs:<BR/><BR/>"The 1989 World Series was particularly exciting..."<BR/><BR/>To which "reality" responds "In 1989, 341 baseball players died of childbirth complications."GrannyGrumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-26027266448911359002008-12-28T01:24:00.000-05:002008-12-28T01:24:00.000-05:00Yes, that's right ... we want all women to get pre...Yes, that's right ... we want all women to get pregnant so that they will die.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what color the sky is on reality's planet.Wicklehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02059596026880204598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-61691323607832508172008-12-28T01:01:00.000-05:002008-12-28T01:01:00.000-05:00reality, there were also far more abortion deaths ...reality, there were also far more abortion deaths before the moon landings than afterward. So obviously the space program reduced abortion deaths!GrannyGrumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-23136277050842949102008-12-27T23:08:00.000-05:002008-12-27T23:08:00.000-05:00Your abortion chart only proves my point: there we...Your abortion chart only proves my point: there were more abortion deaths before Roe than after. <BR/><BR/>You also prove my point that pregnancy kills WAY more women than abortion; at least 10 times more. Yet this is what you want for ALL women: the more dangerous option. Obviously if all women were forced to give birth, more of them would die. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. <BR/><BR/>Better dead than slutty, right Christina?realitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-36321771441063221692008-12-27T20:54:00.000-05:002008-12-27T20:54:00.000-05:00Thanks Granny for a great post. You really know yo...Thanks Granny for a great post. You really know your stuff. Statistics can be so misleading if not looked at correctly.Secular Heretichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18155376835327439598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-89838440823091559932008-12-27T20:28:00.000-05:002008-12-27T20:28:00.000-05:00In about 1967, I think, is when suction curettage ...In about 1967, I think, is when suction curettage became generally available to treat pregnancy loss. Suction curettage resulted in less blood loss, less infection, less risk of uterine perforation. Almost every complication of abortion is less when suction rather than sharp curettage is used for the procedure. Suction curettage is used for abortion as well as miscarriage. The suction technique was more responsible for the decline in rates of septic abortion than Roe. Roe was a tiny blip. Better technique had a much greater effect. <BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work! mdviews.wordpress.comMD Viewshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07867938144966948681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-73029847792326383052008-12-27T19:47:00.000-05:002008-12-27T19:47:00.000-05:00Wickle, you'd be surprised how many people -- incl...Wickle, you'd be surprised how many people -- including the turkeys at the CDC -- manage to miss the obvious. I can't count the number of times I've seen abortion advocates compare either abortion deaths five years on either side of <I>Roe</I> and credit <I>Roe</I> for the drop, as if the even more precipitous plunge for the previous six decades wasn't there!<BR/><BR/>And I still get trolls going on about pregnancy mortality as if abortion somehow is gonna cure it. Serious cases of recto-cranial impaction, I'd say.GrannyGrumphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04785550737493692252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8395646.post-80295237265437846052008-12-27T19:42:00.000-05:002008-12-27T19:42:00.000-05:00Since I'm not irony deficient, I got your point .....Since I'm not irony deficient, I got your point ...<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your analysis of the mortality statistics. I'll be putting a link to this post under my list of articles people need to read.Wicklehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02059596026880204598noreply@blogger.com