Diogenes:God Is My Co-Pirate: Can I just say, as a feminist and mother, I'm still mildly annoyed they revoked that Eat The Kids First plate.

Yeah, I was thinking of a good counter proposal to the Choose Life plates we have here in FL. "Kill More Babies" seemed a bit too over the top. But I think your "Eat The Kids First" idea has legs. Delicious, tender, young legs.

Diogenes:CapeFearCadaver: Diogenes: But one serious idea I had for a counter was "Choose Choice".

In NC, they had proposed "Respect Choice" as a counter opinion plate.

I'd rather not allow any of them, period. Put a bumper sticker on your car, State issued anything has no business pushing any side of this mess or any other hot-button topic.

Seriously. I'm not one for label activism in the first place. But making my car a target just seems stupid, beyond being a shallow expression.

I mostly agree (don't even have bumper stickers for that reason) but NY has had a couple of basically neutral plates I liked - one for the Lilac festival (Rochester influenced, LOVE that festival) and I think there was one with a bird or something where the money went to wetlands conservation. IIRC there's also one with a sailboat but I think it's just something for the people who like boating, as I don't recall any special significance.

jst3p:DubyaHater: Being pro-choice and living in Roanoke, VA, I don't think I'd put a "Respect Choice" plate on my car........unless I want a key or two dragged across the paint.

Yeah, I don't know why anyone would risk putting anything political on their car. There are ignorant idiots of all political bents.

I put my first and only bumper sticker on my car for this election: 'Vote No' (against the MN constitutional amendment duplicating the opposite-gender marriage law). I think one factor in the amendment's surprising defeat was the groundswell of Vote No signs and bumper stickers across the state, especially in cities. We dwarfed the other side and visibility helps. I took the bumper stick off the Thursday after the election.

AngryTeacher:So I did some looking... Ohio has two Choose Life plates and no alternative. They are considered to be pro-adoption plates, not pro-life plates.

We also have the obligitory "In God We Trust" plate.

Colorado has the "Respect life" but they aren't meant to be pro-life. Super double pinky swear!

Columbine Plate

This plate memorializing the victims and survivors of the 1999 shooting at Columbine High School is currently one of the most popular in the state. It features a columbine flower (the state flower) and the phrase "Respect Life" on a detailed mountain backdrop. There is a one-time fee of $50 for the plate, in addition to standard registration and license fees.

Don't they understand that the only thing that should go on your state issued license plate is the college you attended, the military branch you served in, and the fact you support shelter animals/breast cancer/girl scouts/state parks, or the local professional sports team?

Lumpmoose:If the pro-life side used their time, resources and spiritual clout to convince people to choose adoption, promote women's health and educate about contraceptives--rather than merely attempt to ban abortion--they'd prevent many, MANY more abortions than they are now. Under that scenario, a "Choose Life" slogan would be honest and respectable.

Bonus: The anti-choicers are often against adoption (those poor kids might be given to a dirty gay person, or worse, two dirty gay people) and always against health care (so many socialisms) and contraception (it's abstinence or nothing!). I really have no idea where they expect all these extra children to go. Soylent Green factories, perhaps?

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Rufus Lee King:"This is a great victory for the free speech rights of all North Carolinians.", said Chris Brook of the ACLU.

Really? How does that follow? People have the right to free expression until someone says something that you don't agree with?

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I imagine it has something to do with the government officially sponsoring/funding/manufacturing only one particular viewpoint of a contentious issue. The first amendment is aimed at legislators after all.

" If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45.3"

and

"Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. 13% of abortion patients describe themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians; while 22% of U.S. women are Catholic, 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics."

That's a lot of voters to piss off. (Not to mention their husbands and boyfriends who are likely relieved that abortion was a legal option,)

I would just get my girlfriend pregnant, get an ultrasound, take her to the abortion clinic and then write letters letting all the local churches know what we did and include a copy of the ultrasound with the caption "This is YOUR fault!"

Fluorescent Testicle:Lumpmoose: If the pro-life side used their time, resources and spiritual clout to convince people to choose adoption, promote women's health and educate about contraceptives--rather than merely attempt to ban abortion--they'd prevent many, MANY more abortions than they are now. Under that scenario, a "Choose Life" slogan would be honest and respectable.

Bonus: The anti-choicers are often against adoption (those poor kids might be given to a dirty gay person, or worse, two dirty gay people) and always against health care (so many socialisms) and contraception (it's abstinence or nothing!). I really have no idea where they expect all these extra children to go. Soylent Green factories, perhaps?

/[george_carlin.jpg]//I know that you know this already, just biatching for the sake of biatching.

why not add a little vitriol:

the single greatest killer of unborn babies is the abstinence only movement.

Virginia has a 'Trust Women' pro-choice plate. I thought it was nice, kind of like saying "It's okay, guys, I have a uterus and I know what I'm doing here, if I can be a good mom, I'll have the kid, but if not, you have to trust me. I've got this one."

Of course, being a contentious issue, I was hesitant. Sure, I know how to buff out a scratch, but you can only fix paint so many times.

But then I saw that they had one with a kitty and a doggie on it that benefits animal shelters, so that's what I wound up picking for the station wagon, my husband chose one of the general-aviation ones with an airplane on it for the coupe and the minivan got an alumni-association plate with our college logo. Nobody objects to animals, airplanes or to your alumni plate (unless you went to Penn State, which we didn't, and that's kind of blown over...or Duke...) and if I really need street cred at some kind of vehicular abortion debate, I can always impale a foam-rubber fetus on the antenna I fixed with a coat hanger and carry on about my day.

Rufus Lee King:"This is a great victory for the free speech rights of all North Carolinians.", said Chris Brook of the ACLU.

Really? How does that follow? People have the right to free expression until someone says something that you don't agree with?

I like how people with a conservative christian point of view think that "free speech" means the right to make the government espouse their own particular worldview. It's really neither a conservative nor a christian opinion.

You can have a point of view without also making the government all the time parrot that point of view. (Or maybe you so lack confidence in your own beliefs that they will wither away and die if you can't force the government to put them on a license plate: "I was going to keep that baby, but the slogan on my license plate is content neutral, so I aborted it.").

The crackpot liberal freeloaders are more than happy to take away someone else's free speech rights.

It is long past time we re-establish free religious speech in this country. In church. In schools. In public. The liberals have been chipping away at this basic human right for years and now we've reached this ridiculous and sad point. Free speech for them, government censored speech for anyone else.

Demand your basic free speech rights!

Stand up in your church and call out crooked politicians by name. Wear anti-abortion and scripture related clothing to your school and in public. This is your fundamental, constitutionally protected, basic human right and it must not be abridged by these extremist liberal crackpots.

snocone:radiovox: If only there was some other way to display your socio-political beliefs on the back of your car. Maybe strips of paper with adhesive on one side and written messages on the other. Let's get on that Farkers!

BUt would it not be more politically incorrect/correct(hell, I can't keep track) to have the public pay for it?

Actually, you bring up a good point. I have a specialty plate on my car but I had to pay an extra $30 for it. I'm sure there is some kind of up front cost to the tax payer but wouldn't the revenue generated from the sale of those plates offset all that?

I'm curious because it would be a good argument point for one side of the debate and I really haven't taken a side.

This!Many years ago I was dining out with a friend and a woman was going table to tale with pamphlets depicting abortions. my friend handed the pamphlet back to the woman an said she'll have the Tar Tar.