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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Originally Posted by jayced

I'm completely mind ****ed here as to what is really going down. At first I totally thought this was Madara setting shit up, and used Zetsu clones and what not to get Obito on his side. I mean it is Mist ninjas and we know Madara/Tobi is involved with them at some point around this time. Madara even hints that he knows some crazy stuff is gonna happen, so it seems so obvious that Madara is setting things up.

But there are other things in the chapter that don't make sense if that is the case, like Mr. Spiral telling Obito that he should fight instead of Obito. Why bring that up? Mr. Spiral seemed genuinely concerned for Obito, which he wouldn't be if he knew Madara's plans. I guess he might have been kept out of the loop, but idk. Also I really don't think that Kakashi was a Zetsu clone because of Obito sharing vision with Kakashi's sharingan, it wouldn't make sense if it was a clone. Rin totally could have been, but I still don't think that is the case.

Some people are saying genjutsu on Kakashi, but look at the last page. Kakashi totally looks like he knew what he was doing, and he was crying because he had to kill a friend. As to why he had to kill her, no clue. She could have been a Mist spy or betraying the Leaf somehow. But then there is the problem of Obito telling Kakashi that he didn't protect Rin, which he totally would have said because he killed Rin.

Idk, guess I'll wait till someone smarter than me makes a good theory and believe that till next weeks chapter and toss everything out the window again.

Right about kakashi not being a clone, can't say the same thing about Rin.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

I disagee with people saying rin is a spy and that's why kakashi killed her. Even if she was a spy, kakashi wouldn't just chidori her right her in the heart. He'd capture her. Also, why would a young teen who grew up in konoha and almost died trying to save her friend (obito) be a spy. That makes no sense.
It was either accidental or an illusion.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

idk why but after i saw the last page of rin getting killed my kakashi i instantly thought of shisui uchiha's genjustsu.. i mean obitio said he had a grudge on the uchiha's and thats why he helped itachi murder the clan..... maybe rin knew something and Danzo ordered the hit since rin was under the 4th protection.. he needed shisui's eyes.. maybe thats why? cuz if u remember when Danzo was fighting Sasuka, he couldnt use shisui yet.. that means he used it before? just a thought

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

this is my theory, tell me what you guys think...

-ok, i believe that the kakashi and rin that was seen in the last page was the real kakashi and rin. obito used the senju dna to see through his other eye so that should definitely be kakashi and not a clone.

-i believe this was a secret mission that was given to minato and the 3rd hokage because when obito told kakashi that he let rin die, Guy's face seemed to be clueless as if he himself didnt really know what happened to rin. probably no one from kakashi's childhood knew what happened to rin, hence where they believed she just went "missing."http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/600/14

-madara definitely had something to do with it because he seemed so confident that obito was gonna return to him.

-minato and the 3rd hokage probably wanted rin dead because she was giving info about konoha and they told kakashi to do it because he is best fit for the job. that would explain his promotion to the anbu squad. i think madara made zetsu impersonate rin to make rin seem as if she was betraying konoha

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 604 Discussion and 605 Predictions

Originally Posted by MellowHype

Everyone is jumping to conclusions. I believe Kakashi tried to use the incomplete Chidori again in the mist and hit Rin by accident. Then again, who were they fighting? No bodies on the battlefield whatsoever.