I need some advice on an aspect of getting lays.

I'm having some problems with an aspect of going out and getting lays. Sorry for any mistakes in the text, but english is not my native language.

You see, I'm what you could considered a quite attractive man, I take good care of my body and I dress quite nice, so, when I go out, I often get approached by horny girls looking for some action, normally drunk.

And this totally blocks me, I'm quite good at daytime dating, and although I don't flow particularly well at night, I can approach and go for numbers/emails without much trouble. But when a girl approaches me unless I'm drunk (which is not usually the case), it caughts me totally unprepared and I always blow it, specially due my inability to flow in conversations at night, a totally different level of the energy than the girls approaching me, also, when I'm talking to a girl, instead of showing signs of nervousness I look like I'm super serious, cool and collected, which serves me well on one on one dating, but doesnt work for me on this situation, since the girls things that I'm totally not interested in her and sometimes they even get mad about it. Eventually they leave due this, and I dont get anything from the night.

I have read some stuff about negging, boasting and being playful, I have tried and girls usually end up mad at me for being arrogant, a snob or a ladies man in the best case scenario,although this stuff works better in some of my friends who are less physically attractive, but that doesn't seem to work with me.

In daytime PU and 1 on 1 dating, which is the field in which I perform better, I usually do the whole cool and mysterious thing, trying to look as humble as posible while a talk about me when she asks me (I also have a rich live in this matter, so I have an easy time showing high value without routines), keeping my distant, not being needy, and simply enjoy myself without no worries about the girl liking me or not, and I do great in this situations, with the only problem of getting the girl sometimes too attracted to fast that ends with her wanting to take the relationship too far too fast, and an ugly breakup.

But when I'm out on nights, a girl approaches me, I manage to start the conversation a bit, and in a few seconds she is already kinoing heavily on me, some even starth touching my crotch in the middle of the street, that skill set is mostly worthless.

Should I start the make up despite knowning the girl for only 30 secs in some cases and being on a totally different energy level?

How could I become better at flowing at night?

Also, do you think the girls I cross while walking on the street that start shouting compliments when my back is turned are approachable? How would you do it?

Being cocky and funny really doesnt work with me, although I enjoy doing it. And seeing how other guys that have such a lame game and looks get more lays than me at night is very infuariating.

Can anyone give some direction to an attractive but socially inept man? I would really like being able to have lighter and less taxing contact with women.

Most of my lays come from real relationships that I make through one on one dating, which has some advantages, since you gain a more deep understanding of the woman you are doing, and since the girl gets super attached to me I enjoy all the attention greatly, but it can be very taxing emotionally and mentally to have to endure all this process each time I want to have sex, and in the end, totally dishonest and hurtful to the woman targeted. And since I live in a small town, when one of this relationships go down,and the woman usually starts to tell her girl friends that I'm a player and a liar, the potential target pool for me is strongly reduced. So I would like to be able to keep things a bit lighter.

Re: I need some advice on an aspect of getting lays.

Imagine a physically perfect male. Strong chin, great hair, smile, abs, and the voice of Barry White. He approaches a woman and tells her "I know you only want me for my body."

Now imagine a physically unappealing man. Overweight, balding, crooked teeth. But manages to at least smell good and a sense of style. He approaches a woman and says to her "I know you only want me for my body."

Which comes across as arrogant to you? I know I'm thinking it's the physically attractive guy who behaves as if he knows it. It's easy for him to seem really cocky and make women feel like they are not good enough, or wouldn't sleep with you just so they don't have to hear you talk about yourself.

So for you I think your main focus should be humor for night game. Being mysterious is great, but at night when energies are high and are about fun, being mysterious may just not be enough. So experiment between being the silly goofy guy and being your mysterious self until you reach somewhere in between that you are comfortable with.

Also if women come up to you that regularly then your biggest tool is Qualification. Its very easy for a woman to approach a man, then he says or does all these cocky things, and completely destroy her initial attraction to you. If you want to solidfy that initial attraction, you have to qualify her so as to show her why you should be talking to her. She will then feel she has earned your interest and won't question later why you are willing to go home with her when you don't know her.

What's more important is the SOI(Statement of Interest) After you qualify her (Ex: Are you adventurous and spontaneous?) then make sure you say something meaningful to her. (Ex: Wow its not everyday I meet a woman as interesting as you. But I'm still cautious because I believe that things can be too good to be true.) This will skyrocket her initial attraction for you and you will have ONS in no time. Hope this helps and good luck.

Re: I need some advice on an aspect of getting lays.

Thanks for the help batman!that bit about qualification seems that will be helpful.

But, how long do you think I should wait to jump for the make out when a girl that I have met 1 minute ago is already using heavy Kino on my chest and arms, coming fucking close to me, and touching my junk in a sneaky way?

Re: I need some advice on an aspect of getting lays.

Definitely take the opportunity to make yourself a challenge.

"Hey this shit ain't free" is a classic PUA line that still works. Not only will they touch you more, but are likely to see you as a challenge and be willing to make out without getting buyers remorse. It's also subtlety qualifying her because it conveys that you don't let every woman touch you. This can happen within minutes so keep the momentum. I had an isolated incident where within 5 min of walking into a bar I made out with some random woman. It was an isolated incident, but just to show that's its possible. Especially if you qualify them quickly before you do.