But when he started complaining about Hillary and talking about appeasing rump voters he lost me ...big time

I think you misread him. He wasn't saying to appease Trump voters. He was identifying why Trump was appealing to them, and why Trump was going to win.

_________________Socialism! That's that word that your politicians use that it's so nasty. Socialism. Other places just call it sharing. It's a good thing! You just share and give some to the less fortunate. -Fred Eaglesmith

Of all the pebbles in President Trump’s shoe, liberal filmmaker Michael Moore has aspired — since before day one — to be one of the most conspicuous.

Moore has called for Trump to step aside — even before Trump took office. He has attended protests and sworn that Trump “will not last these four years.” He has staged his own one-man play in New York that made no secret of its aim with its motto: “Can a Broadway show take down a sitting President?”

If that was the beginning of Moore’s charge up an anti-Trump hill, he is at its apex now, nearly a year-and-a-half into Trump’s presidency.

In an appearance on HBO’s “Real Time” Friday night, Moore told host Bill Maher that American democracy was on the precipice of being extinguished. He was responding, in part, to a prompt by Maher that posited whether a “civil war” could be imminent in the United States.

“Fascism is at the doorstep,” Moore started.

“A slow-moving coup —…,” Maher interjected.

“People are afraid to use the word, but I think that we have got to be very serious about this,” Moore continued. “[Franklin Delano Roosevelt] and [Winston] Churchill defeated fascism. … If they defeated fascism, look what we’ve got. We’ve got a country where the vast majority believe in women’s rights, environmental stuff, don’t put people in jail for using drugs. All of that stuff, the majority are with us. We are the majority. Why don’t we start acting like the majority?”

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On Maher’s show, Moore called for people to march on Washington to prevent Congress from voting on a new Supreme Court justice — the one who will take the place of Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, who announced his retirement this past week — before the midterm elections in November.

“Listen, the Senate right now is 51-49. Sadly, McCain will not be able to vote, so it’s a 50-49 vote. C’mon. C’mon. We’ve got to push it off til after November,” Moore said. “We first have to find ways to stop that vote from happening. I’ll join a million other people surrounding the United States Capitol.”

He also urged those who felt too busy to join such protests to remember the sacrifices of civil rights activist the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

“What are people willing to commit to? What would you give your life for?” Moore said. “What would you be willing to actually put yourself on the line for? That moment is now. We are going to lose our democracy if we haven’t already. We have no choice, my friends. We all have to rise up.”

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Leading up to Election Day 2016, Moore was one of the few to predict Donald Trump would win. Intended to be an October surprise, the filmmaker released “Michael Moore in TrumpLand,” a hastily produced pro-Hillary Clinton monologue that was vehemently critical of the Republican presidential nominee.

A Trump victory, Moore shouted in the film, would be “the biggest f— you ever recorded in human history.” Weeks later, Trump was elected.

Days after the 2016 presidential election, Moore showed up at Trump Tower with a camera crew and a note for Trump that read “You lost. Step aside.”

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Dunno. I agree it was easy to misunderstand Moores' points in 2016. Yes, Trump would be a big F-U. But, as I think Moore made clear, an F-U to democracy, decency, and diversity.

_________________-- Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.Malaclypse the Younger

Fahrenheit 9/11 was a movement. Everyone wanted to see it, at a time when the rest of the media were all rah rah over war for the hell of it in the Middle East. In This Town there was a well organized move to all show up on the first day, since opening-day and first-weekend grosses are what get a movie noticed. (I know, only in L.A..) Worked, though. Plus it was money well spent, for a good show.

I see no reason not to do same with the reciprocal. We may find out that 11/9 is inverted 9/11 in more ways than one.

_________________"Our democratic institutions... seem to have been upended by frat-boy billionaires from California," remarked Canadian politician Charlie Angus. (BBC, 11/27/18)

_________________Who are these...flag-sucking halfwits fleeced fooled by stupid little rich kids They speak for all that is cruel stupidThey are racists hate mongers I piss down the throats of these Nazis Im too old to worry whether they like it Fuck them.HST.

..........Donald J. Trump did not just fall from the sky. His rise to the presidency was not an aberration and should not have come as a shock. It was the logical end result of a long, downward spiral in America that culminated in one of our most loathsome citizens conquering our most powerful office. One of our most deceptive minds, commanding the bully pulpit. One of our most fraudulent hucksters, armed with the powers of the presidency to protect him.

Ever since that fateful morning at 2:29 AM on 11/9/16 when the Associated Press officially called the election for Trump, we have been trying to save what’s left of our democracy. This is not a film telling you what a jerk Donald Trump is or what an buffoon Donald Trump is or what a liar Donald Trump is. You already know all that. Everybody already knows all that (except for your conservative brother-in-law, whose mind you’ll never be able to change). I wouldn’t waste your time or my time making that kind of film. And with all due respect to your conservative brother-in-law, we don’t need him. We’re the majority in this country, he’s the minority, he knows it, and that’s why he’s so mad!

Instead, my team and I have been on a mission to tell a much, much more important story. It’s a story about hope — and what false hope has done to us. It’s a story about deception and betrayal. It’s a story about what happens to a nation when it hits rock bottom. It’s the story about who we are as a people and what it means to be an American in the era of Trump. Finally, it’s a story about where we might be heading as a society.

My crew and I have moved heaven and earth to make sure we deliver this film to you as soon as possible. I’m excited to announce to you that “Fahrenheit 11/9” will open in more movie theaters than any of my previous films — over 1,500 theaters across America!

(It will also be opening in dozens of countries around the world.)

When we open nationwide on September 21st, it will be just 45 days before the most important election in American history (and with voter registration still open across the country!)..........

The documentarian comes out swinging at the Trump administration — and reminds us that we need to take the dire situation our country is in very seriously

You’ll cry laughing at Michael Moore’s new doc Fahrenheit 11/9, an unmissable provocation about the rise and rise of Donald J. Trump that should help get out the vote in November better than any limp recruitment outreach. One of Moore’s best and most incisively funny films — right up there with Roger & Me (1989), Bowling for Columbine (2002) and Sicko (2007) — his latest goes way past taking potshots at the Donald, though it does that with piercing intelligence and wounding wit. Rather, he wants to show us that this celebrity Commander-in-Chief didn’t just fall from the sky. The movie is Moore’s State of the Union message. And, damn, are we in trouble...............

...........It’s an allegory for the Democrats, he suggests. The polling shows that on the key issues, such as progressive taxation, or abortion rights, or healthcare, or gun control, most Americans side with the progressive side of the argument. In the past six out of seven presidential elections, he notes, the Democrats won the popular vote. “So the Democratic party are handed a population which agrees with their entire platform,” he says; they even have more voters. “Yet they’re still unable to put themselves and us in power.” If his film distributor kept doing that, it would go out of business. But here is what happens, his film posits, if the Democrats become too much like the Republicans, too in hock to a corporate agenda.........

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