U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

Defending the pond scum to the bitter end I see... You are entirely missing the point. This US was built on the principles of various freedoms.
If you take those away, then this is no longer the USA that our fore fathers fought for. At this point we may be better off being a part of the UK
afterall. Got it? George washington would roll over in his grave over this.

The FBI went into court and leaked that the Saudi Royal Family was directly connected to the 9-11 hijackers and said see this is the kind of stiff we
have and why we need to keep the rest secret. Yes all those plane loads of Bin Ladens and other people from Saudi Arabia flying home from the US while
a no fly zone was placed over the whole US.

This is the beginning of the overt war against the free peoples of the world. Protect yourself online, I'm assuming the majority of the users of
this website will already be taking these measures but just in case...

Tor will anonymise your browsing habits so what you actually view will not be able to be tracked. Grab it before they make it illegal. Info and
download here: www.torproject.org...

Well with you seeing what is going on here with all the NSA leaks on what they have been doing you should start asking what happened to Gareth
Williams and who was the female NSA agent he was working with when he got stuck in a gym bag and thrown in a shower? They have all ways kept that name
away from investigators and the press. Who was the NSA agent who possible killed him?

US has over 300 000 000 people. There are probably hundreds of different organisations working under Obama administration with thousands of people.

The president only gets the information through reportings, which have gone through a long-long commandchain. If even one on lower level decides not
to report it in his/her report, no one in the top will even be aware of it. You think Obama has the time to give orders to hundreds of different
government-run organizations, he would need to be a polymath for it... He might know law, that does not mean he is a specialist at economy, specialist
at education, specialist at defense systems etc etc etc.

Where I live is a country of 1,5 million, much-much smaller one. Even here the government is not held responsible for the actions of government-run
agencies, as in most situations, government is not even aware what is happening in these organsiations. These are government-funded and acting on the
behalf of government, but they are separate institutions and everything depends on the actions of the institutions leaders, not the government, who
simply gives them the funds and gets reports every couple of week (maybe more, maybe less - everything depends on the situation).

That's the whole problem - accountability! Even with the latest "terrorist" attack in Woolwich, we have the hand of MI6 and MI5 in there prior to
the event happening. As soon as a friend of one of the attackers appears on the BBC telling that side of the story, he's immediately arrested before
leaving the studio. It is these same agencies setting up and creating the threats in the first place in their twisted little power games, serving
nobody other than themselves and the power elite. When something goes belly up, they'll scramble to remove any loose ends that may damage them,
knowing the cover of "National Security" will protect them.

They can read any posts and emails I may send if they get their jollies that way, but I have nothing to hide by using TOR or other means of trying to
hide my online activity (if in fact those are really safe anyway). In fact, anything I post or email is only the same thing I would say to the faces
of the scum anyway given the opportunity!

Well Google had the Google cars doing drive bys of every bodies house. They were gathering cell phone information and linking that to houses. Grabbing
all wifi and internet data and also linking that to houses. Then taking a picture of your house. And they admitted it in court.

Interesting link, thanks. The issue was invasion of privacy for the wifi info, but not "scanning" streets and photographing everything they drive
by. Where I live here, an agency wants to do the same thing because if they don't do it now, someone else will. Great logic.

And I agree with you, the government probably paid a lot of money to google for that info - paid with tax dollars of course

If the stories were allowed to run you can guarantee that tptb want you to know. It is probably just an in your face "we do what we want, what are
you gonna do about it". You had senators commenting today about how it is keeping everyone safe.

I mean the article is really bad. Geez, I hope it is not a limited hangout; what could be much worse?

Read and be informed. No, it's not perfect but unless you want to go down the VPN route, it's the best fit for the average internet user provided
it's properly configured and habits are changed accordingly.

For HOW TO guides on encrypting emails, IM chats and anonymous browsing, this is a great resource:

It is even worse than that. This is just the top of the mountain of evil.

All SWIFT data world wide and ALL (and i mean ALL) credit card and bank card transactions world wide are going automatically into NSA computers. This
is Orwell 1984. Don't let them fool yourself. It is too late for a return of freedom. They know what you think, they know what you do, they know what
you buy, they know where you are. 24x365. And of course they know WHO you are. If you're making them nervous or if you want to change the system
(e.g. by requesting your "outdated" constitutional rights or freedom and democracy, when you are asking for the truth (not believing into tgeir
propaganda shared by their own media), then they are going to send you a little drone in the near future. So far they had to bother to suicide you,
leaving you dead in female stockings with sex toys.

I wonder if this pairs up with the recent findings that the Facebook app was draining power on iphones constantly even when it wasn't running. I
think I may have even read it on here somewhere. Wouldn't surprise me if it was constantly uploading data back to big brother.

Anonymous responds to NSA's Prism

http:///x77ZdbHP

Greetings Netizens, and Citizens of the world. Anonymous has obtained some documents that "they" do not want you to see, and
much to "their" chagrin, we have found them, and are giving them to you. These documents prove that the NSA is spying on you, and not just
Americans. They are spying on the citizens of over 35 different countries. These documents contain information on the companies involved in GiG,
and Prism. Whats GiG you might ask? well... The GIG will enable the secure, agile, robust, dependable, interoperable data sharing
environment for the Department where warfighter, business, and intelligence users share knowledge on a global network that facilitates information
superiority, accelerates decision-making, effective operations, and Net-Centric transformation. Like we said, this is happening in over 35
countries, and done in cooperation with private businesses, and intelligence partners world wide. We bring this to you, So that you know just how
little rights you have. Your privacy and freedoms are slowly being taken from you, in closed door meetings, in laws buried in bills, and by
people who are supposed to be protecting you. Download these documents, share them, mirror them, don't allow them to make them disappear.
Spread them wide and far. Let these people know, that we will not be silenced, that we will not be taken advantage of, and that we are not happy
about this unwarranted, unnecessary, unethical spying of our private lives, for the monetary gain of the 1%. And now, the candy:
thedocs.hostzi.com... We are Anonymous We do not forgive We do not forget and by now, You should expect
us

In WWII intelligence agencies would read mail sent by love ones to soldiers, then the letters were resealed and sent to their recipient. It's just
now the alphabet boys have technology to keep tabs on everyone, y'know, to "protect us".

It could get worse, Microsofts new gaming console will come will a Kinect sensor, with a built in camera, and it will need an internet connection just
to function properly. Put those two together and you get a potential surveillance camera in your own house.

But you will get these people who will say "If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear." It doesn't matter, the whole idea of
electronic surveillance is wrong.

Oh my God...This has just been released through the Washington Post. On the heels of the Guardian in UK breaking the story of the Obama
administration's NSA forcing Verizon to secretly hand over the phone records of over 100 million American citizens...comes THIS, which looks to make
the Verizon story look minuscule by comparison.

I have to agree with the New York Times...The Obama Administration HAS now lost all credibility!

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Bullcrap! He was the last jackass to sign the extension of the Patriot Act provisions which made this possible. He signed the bill in the blood
of every American who fought and died to prevent this dying nation from going down the toilet the way it has over the past decade. The constant
enabling of Obama's excuses and refusal to accept the responsibility he was elected to accept is really starting to get a little old. Remember when
men in power embraced responsibility? Remember when the people demanded that men in power embraced responsibility? Did that die along with
all the goddamned freedoms we used to have, too?

ETA: I'm not singling you out here, Cabin. The above post, though a reply to you, goes to every individual who has the audacity to play that tired,
weak, pathetic "don't blame Obama" card over and over and over again, anytime something springs up which demonstrates his inability to lead. I like
to say "Elections have consequences." Well, now that the ignorance and poorly thought out priorities of the masses are beginning to plop those
consequences on EVERYONE'S doorstep like fresh piles of dog poop on a lawn, I think a little outrage is warranted. The people wanted him, the people
got him, now it's time for the people to man up and either demand he accept the responsibility a president is expected to accept or else the people
need to accept the responsibility for making one big ass mistake for America.

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