AudioVideo worked for me with Imagination. There was though problem to update menu. fixmenus && jwm -reload didnt make it to show. But restart X did.
Hmm.....I thought that bug was fixed. Lets see how it goes with other pets.

FIRST Test:
Live CD:
Results: 5.4.X.4 loaded and ran without any problems however as with previous version, CD could not be removed during run-time.

Did a Frugal Install, everything loaded-saved like it should. CD is now open to use for data, graphic etc., files. 'Nice' - Grub4DOS was the only version that set boot-load from the Grub menu up properly... regular GRUB couldn't cut it!

Everything tested in 5.4.X.4 ran without a single issue so far and it is a very pleasing addition to this OLD Thinkpad. I have an Exprimo-5.X.2.9 that runs also very nice (Live CD only with a savefile to HDD) on this machine but could not get versions beyond that to work?

I highly recommend 5.4.X.4 for old machines with at least the (mentioned above) configuration of my IBM T22... could be that lesser configurations will also work... be interesting to hear!

rcrsn51... Many a time you have saved my skin on this forum but on your statement that old puppy's are for older computers, I have to totally disagree as I see what has happened here with a T22 and Upup-Precise.

rcrsn51... Many a time you have saved my skin on this forum but on your statement that old puppy's are for older computers, I have to totally disagree as I see what has happened here with a T22 and Upup-Precise

Umm.... My comment was in reference to your complaints about running off the Live CD on low-memory machines. Once you do an install and get to a "pfix=nocopy" environment, the situation changes, of course.

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Hugh sszindian,
if i good remember (see Slacko story from beginning) you'd be one of those (...happy?) Brookdale 82845G video chip featured PC user ...would'nt you ?
If the case, welcome to the club!
just to report that 54X4 (currently X version 1.11.3 + intel driver version 2.17.0) works OOTB without X black screen at X restart on such machine .
Also Exprimo runs nice after done an intel_drv.so rollback to version 2.11.0...see here or disregard if irrelevant
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=647116#647116
<---have fun---<<
Cheers, Charlie

Upup Precise is slightly bigger than official Precise Puppy. The big size of Precise Puppy is partly due to hard work to get graphics working. It has needed more graphics stuff in the build.
Also dri drivers has been included, flash has been included, python has been preincluded.
All of those makes the the official build bigger.
Rewoofing or remastering or just unsquashing the sfs and removing by hand /usr/lib/dri/*, python stuff and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so you can get smaller iso. Removing Seamonkey helps also.
Happy tinkering.

Hi pemasu.
I have a little problem that also may affect other users, and need to be fixed. I have an old P4 1.6GHz linuxbox, with a 21" Sony Multiscan 500 PS monitor, powered by a nvidia GeForce2 MX200 graphic card.

When Precise 54x4 first boots into X, it has a resolution 640x480, and the wizard window that pops up lets me change that to 1280x1024, which is the resolution I prefer. After restart of X, the resolution is still 640x480, indicating that the 'noveou' graphic driver is no good for me.

The problem is, that the dialog window made to change the graphic driver (and most other dialog windows too - including the shutdown window), are too big for the screen's 640x480 resolution, and the windows themselves cannot be resized. All the buttons are placed out of reach, along the bottom edge, so I cannot use them.

Is it possible to give the dialog windows a dynamic size behaviour?

Alternatively, is it possible to include some more graphic drivers in the Precise 54x4?

tallboy_________________True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.

AudioVideo worked for me with Imagination. There was though problem to update menu. fixmenus && jwm -reload didnt make it to show. But restart X did.
Hmm.....I thought that bug was fixed. Lets see how it goes with other pets.

rcrsn51 wrote:
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Umm.... My comment was in reference to your complaints about running off the Live CD on low-memory machines. Once you do an install and get to a "pfix=nocopy" environment, the situation changes, of course.
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Yes... just funning a little... hey, none of us ever meet each other, if we can't have a little clean fun here, what's the forum worth. Yea know, the rest of the world thinks we're totally nuts anyway, I mean like I have enough puppy only CD's to shingle a house... maybe more.

I will leave tomorrow to the Lapland Saariselka with our ski club for a week. This is eight time I organize ski camp there. I suppose I have possibility to follow posts that time with my android, but probably I wont reply much. When I come back, I believe I create next Upup Precise build. Barry Kauler has pinned down several PPM bugs and he will create soon updated Precise Puppy.

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Precise 5.4.X.4 so far has been the ONLY puppy version that will run some special video-sites I constantly view on gold prospecting 'WITHOUT ALL THAT BUFFERING.' It is a real pleasure to watch these as they were meant to be!!!

Overall: ALL the program apps (that I use) work without fault and fast, very pleased!

Question?: Are there going to be 'package updates' (like BK has for his Precise 4.1.1) to just add to existing Precise 5.4.X.4 or will install of complete new versions be required to upgrade?

sszindian. Upup Precise 54X4 has about all updates through woof which Barry provided with his Service Pack. I am not so keen on those Service Packs. I had in Dpup Update menu tab, but I seldomly used it. Mostly it is question of time. You do one kind of update and then check what should be in Service Pack for older version. Usually those updates are difficult to maintain for example for builds which are several releases old. I am not very enthusiathic to keep track on what went to what build. And since I use woof, it is even harder to keep track what Barry provided. You have to review every woof commit.

And....then I would need to get PPM see my Service Pack updates. Hacking PPM is not my favourite job....since I want nowadays to keep it in sync with woof.

So...updating the puplet is much easier to keep the build in sync with Barrys work.

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