It also didn't help every time Joe Hart took a goal kick it kept going out of touch for a opposition throw in. And what was Ashley Cole doing kept leaving his post trying to attack when he needed to hold his position, we desperately need to start Baines. Usual England, so frustrating

Yeah, the worrying thing for us is that this isn't the old Gerrard, this one can be quite wasteful but we still need him more than ever- he simply is our most dynamic midfielder. He had one of his badder games yesterday (2nd half, you can maybe put it down to the bobbly pitch) but at the same time looked most likely to assist or score from midfield. I reckon either Milner or Cleverly should have gone off for Ox, it was clear to everyone watching that the goal was coming but like England managers past Hodgson made no change till we had conceded

It was like watching two different matches in each half. They took the initiative in the second half which Hodgson was far too late responding to. Thought Danny Welbeck grows with every start he makes. Gerrard was too careless at times and was lucky not to be punished. Cleverley also at times. When teams go all out against England, we lose our shape, look desperate and panic-stricken too often. Could you imagine a side like Germany falling apart like that?

What an embarrassment to be dominated by montenegro. Other home nations didn't do much better either and have no realistic chance of winning the world cup. Defo time to have a British team and retire some over rated players like gerrard and milner. The only bright spark i see is jack wilshire and he didn't play and welbeck.