I can't disagree with you, Crash. But I also think a lot of the criticism of TCW is just plain Lucas bashing. It bugs me a lot when I see posts that give no credit to Lucas -- typically saying the only good movies were one's he really didn't do himself like ESB (a falsehood btw)-- and yet blame him for everything they don't like. I recently saw a post on another forum where a young (and obviously ignorant) poster blamed Lucas for the post-ROTJ EU. He was promptly set straight by a number of posters.

Really, it's gotten so bad recently that someone stepped in and remarked that the next step would be someone calling for Lucas's assassination -- so people would come to their senses and realize how outrageous they're getting._________________Roqoo Depot co-founder.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:00 am

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Darth SkuldrenModerator

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Back on topic, Paul S. Kemp will be participating in a Facebook live chat on Wednesday. The chat will be done on Star Wars Books' Facebook page at 6:00 PM EST._________________
"I believe toys resonate with us as humans, we can hold them them, it's tactile, real! They are totems for our extended beliefs and imaginations. A fetish for ideas that hold as much interest and passion as old religious relics for some. We display them in our homes. They show who we are. They are signals for similar thinking people. A way we connect with each other...and I guess thats why I do toys. That connection." -Ashley Wood

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:34 pm

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Finished Riptide last night. I'm gonna re-read it again, take some notes, and post my thoughts here._________________Observation: Life would be cooler if everyone spoke like HK-47.

I'd like to re-read it back-to-back with Crosscurrent. When I did that with Allegiance and Choices of One, it really added to the story. I know when I dove into Riptide, I had trouble trying to remember what happened with the clones in the last book._________________
"I believe toys resonate with us as humans, we can hold them them, it's tactile, real! They are totems for our extended beliefs and imaginations. A fetish for ideas that hold as much interest and passion as old religious relics for some. We display them in our homes. They show who we are. They are signals for similar thinking people. A way we connect with each other...and I guess thats why I do toys. That connection." -Ashley Wood

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:25 am

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Darth Skuldren wrote:

I'd like to re-read it back-to-back with Crosscurrent. When I did that with Allegiance and Choices of One, it really added to the story. I know when I dove into Riptide, I had trouble trying to remember what happened with the clones in the last book.

I was the same. Liked the book though. Soldier was a good character and loved the sith._________________"You see that I was right, now, dont you?. The truth is written in blood"

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:11 pm

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A this-may-spit-on-continuity question:

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Is it possible that Centerpoint was created to combat Ratakan technology?

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I think it was made before the Rakatans came to power. So my guess is that, while its primary function was to move planets, it could have been used as a weapon of fear to keep the Celestial's slaves in line - much like the role of the Death Star. To expand on that, it could also have been used as an actual weapon, in the waning days of the Celestials, and as the Rakatans started to come into power. Though if that did happen, then it probably wouldn't have been used to great effect, since the Celestials eventually died out, and the Rakatans became the dominant power.

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:36 am

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Only a couple chapters in, but really enjoying it._________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:23 am

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It was a good book.

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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:24 am

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DancelittleewokEUC Staff

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darthrevan1 wrote:

It was a good book.

I preferred Crosscurrent but it was still enjoyable

How come you prefer Crosscurrent?_________________Observation: Life would be cooler if everyone spoke like HK-47.

Just enjoyed it a bit more._________________"You see that I was right, now, dont you?. The truth is written in blood"

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:52 am

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ReepicheepMaster

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Finished last night.

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First off, Life, only you would ask about the Umbarans having an incestuous relationship. It didn't cross my mind. I just figured they were so close because they felt a connection with each other that they couldn't experience with any other being in the galaxy. Of course, I'm really close to my siblings so that might have been part of why it didn't set off any alarm bells.

...Back on track, I think Kemp is my favourite EU author right now. I like how he doesn't bite off more than he can chew. He works with a small cast of unknown or little known characters, a relatively minor threat (no one wanting to destroy the galaxy, thank goodness) and creates really compelling stories. The ending freaked me out (in a good way) though! I was looking at my slef in the mirror the next morning and I checked to make sure i still had the tiny scar on my right cheek.

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:46 am

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I really enjoyed this book.

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I think that the implications of Jaden having been a clone every time that we see him in FOTJ are amazing. I really hope Kemp gets another book to explain this, or that his duology relates to this somehow.

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That's one thing I haven't quite figured out yet, though. We know at the end of Riptide that Jaden is a clone, which means his appearance during FOTJ was his new clone self. However, in that scuffle he had with Nyriss, the One Sith agent tried to use the command phrase on him. Why would he do that unless he thought Jaden was a clone? Does that mean Jaden was the Prime? Was he some epitome of Thrawn's project, released into the Jedi Order, maybe some sleeper spy that was never activated or utilized? And if so, since the command phrase didn't work, does that mean he mutated and out grew the coding...or is he really Jaden, and there's another prime out there?

So many questions. Definitely hoping Kemp's duology is a Jaden duology, but I have a feeling it's going to either be something new, or more TOR stuff. Since Karpyshyn is doing another TOR novel, they'll probably want some more to go along with it. Wouldn't surprise me if that's where the duology fits in.

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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:32 am

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Darth Skuldren wrote:

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That's one thing I haven't quite figured out yet, though. We know at the end of Riptide that Jaden is a clone, which means his appearance during FOTJ was his new clone self. However, in that scuffle he had with Nyriss, the One Sith agent tried to use the command phrase on him. Why would he do that unless he thought Jaden was a clone? Does that mean Jaden was the Prime? Was he some epitome of Thrawn's project, released into the Jedi Order, maybe some sleeper spy that was never activated or utilized? And if so, since the command phrase didn't work, does that mean he mutated and out grew the coding...or is he really Jaden, and there's another prime out there?

So many questions. Definitely hoping Kemp's duology is a Jaden duology, but I have a feeling it's going to either be something new, or more TOR stuff. Since Karpyshyn is doing another TOR novel, they'll probably want some more to go along with it. Wouldn't surprise me if that's where the duology fits in.

Yeah id like to see that _________________"You see that I was right, now, dont you?. The truth is written in blood"