i always recommend to people to complete campaigns on expert before going versus, if i see some people playing i could think it is their first time in a fps.. or they just react so slowly when they need to help another.

Last night I played with 3 guys. 1 was decent and the other two had 1 hour each (yes 1 hour). They probably want to try all the mods since they just bought the game and I can understand the hurry. But what I don't understand, is how people join multiplayer games without even knowing wtf the game is about and how to play it. This goes for every game. When I bought Age of Empires back then, I didn't want to go play multiplayer because I did not want to get demolished by better players. I wanted to learn the game and some tactics with some civilizations at least before playing competitively.

In L4D2, in 1 hour, you can barely set your controls and graphic options and complete half a campaign as a noob. I ask them if they played campaign, one says "No", I tell them politely that they should start with that before they become a little better and I tell them that I am not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but it is just that they are clearly not ready to play versus. I give them advice on the mic while we play, they say "I don't care". So basically, here you are in VS playing a team based game, with more or less 1 hour, not caring about the team. And now those same noobs wish to understand why the community is so "BAD" and votekicks them.

It is from experiences such as these that ALL noobs or low hour players get kicked, no matter if some are willing to understand and cooperate. If you have a bad experience with a woman in a relationship or two, you are likely to hate them and maybe avoid them.

If only all the noobs did the same as OP, that'd be such a service and relief to the community.

I'v played for a long time and the people that deserve to be kicked for going alone or being stupid and get kicks do not complain about it i agree that it would be better if the host had all the power more then 30 times at least i get kicked for not spitting on cans next to humans or not being able to fall down a hole or one way path perfectly while yes some people deserve to be kicked 80% of them are kicked for wrong reasons

I'v played for a long time and the people that deserve to be kicked for going alone or being stupid and get kicks do not complain about it i agree that it would be better if the host had all the power more then 30 times at least i get kicked for not spitting on cans next to humans or not being able to fall down a hole or one way path perfectly while yes some people deserve to be kicked 80% of them are kicked for wrong reasons