Okay, I give up. DU 'Bashes' Duers from 'Red States'.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by REP (a host of the General Discussion forum).

That's been a theme here of late, and by GOSH there are plenty of links 'proving' it. I'm done trying to defend DU. It's apparent, even obvious by now that all of the Duers from Red States are universally hated on This Site.

My silly and juvenille attempts to show otherwise or request evidence to show it as being so were appropriately shut down.

I'm embarrassed.

I really am.

I should never have questioned those who claimed that DU is hostile to 'red state' Liberals and Democrats. Obviously.

As such, I suppose I'll have to really think about being here, as I have friends and family in 'red states' and am personally very much opposed to the notion that they are 'stupid' or 'foolish' for living there.

If any of you want me to leave, just say so, and I'll take it under advisement.

1. Don't be a Hater

Come on. They can't help it if they are outnumbered. I am an ex-pat from a southern state. I was outnumbered but I have always stood firm. Good luck to all of those red state brothers and sister. Keep on fightin the good fight!

3. They can't help it?

Just because us red-state DUers are 'outnumbered' doesn't mean we have to take abuse from those of our own party. Yes, I choose to live in BLUE San Antonio Texas; I have raised my children here and it's home. Dems in Texas fight hard and struggle more than Dems in blue states just because we are a minority.

We should have support but instead we're ridiculed by some. It's really discouraging sometimes.

2. Don't leave because of a few bullies

You have been here too long to give in to bullies. Although I have never mentioned I am from a red state, I have been bullied and called a troll simply because I am new here. But these bullies are in the minority, and most DUers are nice people. We know who the bullies are, and they continue to show themselves up by their own behavior.

15. I am from SC and if I try to say anything about my state other than an apology

I get attacked mercilessly.

There is NOTHING good about South Carolina. NOTHING. The people are ALL ignorant hillbilly racists. Period. If I try to say anything else, I get attacked. I have actually stopped posting here more than once because of it.

27. Fired up? :)

6. Can you get any bluer than Boston?

When we were in Ma. a few weeks, we saw a man standing on an overpass to the Mass. Pike HOLDING a huge Romney sign. Of course, all the Obama signs far outnumbered HIM.

By the same token, we know a man (old, white, not rich) from Alabama, now living in very red, Naples, Florida (home of Space Alien Governor), who had Obama and 99% stickers all over his car. Nope, it didn't get vandalized, but the Romney stuff were far more numerous in this place.

While it certainly is very nice to live in a majority Dem State (NY Native), all it means is is that you just have to try harder, and take no shit, as in, voter suppression.

7. Stick Around If You Want To.

But just for the record, I thought your earlier thread was rightfully shut down. It was beneath contempt. We Red State liberals have it rough enough without being shit on by people who are supposed to be our political allies. End of rant.....

46. No.

And maybe thats why I dont notice it so much. But being from NH I absolutely DREAD primary time. All the 'why should those hicks from a tiny state get to choose' type threads really get to me. So I can relate.

18. Not sure where you are going with this, but...

I have had a hard time of it if I ever try to defend the southeast in any way. Especially if I say anything about liking it here. If I try to make ANY positive comment about the people or my state, DUers tend to jump down my throat. I have stopped posting a couple of times because of it.

If you are being sarcastic, I have quit posting before from the attacks because I said something about how I don't like my state politically, but I do like living here. I like South Carolinians. I like the South in general. It feels like home. It isn't a perfect place by a long shot, but it's home.

19. Dude. Chill. Stop obsessing.

20. I imagine there's a very dramatic difference in questioning a thing

I imagine there's often a very dramatic difference in questioning a thing, and the manner in which one questions a thing.

And, as evidence was indeed, offered in evidence (rather than as a 'proof')...

That being said, I do not think DUers from the south are universally hated, merely minimized and trivialized by a handful of prolific posters for no other reason than for living where they do. While I don't think that is evidence for "universal hatred", it does allow us the opportunity to see closed, dogmatic and intractable opinions that will not be swayed by evidence, often in others, and sometimes, even in ourselves.

31. Ya, this disturbs me.

It is not all peoples of a region. There are many progressives in red areas.

The issue, as I see it, is entrenched bigotry that has been passed through the generations. Us that understand the reasons this hatred is unfounded need to "educate" them.

We need to look at our message because it is not working currently. I do not have the answer to the delivery of a progressive message that will be accepted, but I believe it is possible. Greater minds will hopefully figure it out.

35. Don't leave. Just think of all the Intelligent Red-staters

When I was in college, back in 1970, I met a guy from Georgia and he was very progressive in his thinking. Being from MAss. I was amazed that a young person could grow up in a state like Georgia and still have liberal thoughts.

I just read a post (see link below) by someone from a red state who talked about how it was to be a liberal and be surrounded by conservatives, racists, whatever you want t call them. It really made me thing that we need to start to support these people because they stand with us under very dangerous circumstances (against their neighbors and relatives) while we sit in Blue and see that our votes actually elect liberals and keep this country from fallling into a very dark place where wealth is power and the ruling class is prejudiced against everyone else and there is no American Dream to work toward.

38. After your hidden thread, why should anyone take this seriously?

39. I live in blue Michigan but I get jumped on

When I defend the US auto industry and the UAW and point out that there is a massive trade imbalance with Japan when it comes to importing and manufacturing US automobiles to and in Japan. I am lectured about the perceived poor quality in US cars, reminded how many are made in the US (by non Union labor), and given meaningless statistics about the trade balances with other goods.

43. Look at the red in your own state

look at it, feel it, know it. Then incorporate your whole state into your worldview. I realize that's hard for people who have to shore themselves up by tearing others down. Otherwise you're just perpetuating the media myth of "red vs blue."

There's no place for South baiting/bashing on DU. It's nasty and alienating. People who do it look smug, superior, and ignorant.