FarknGroovn:Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption? Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.

algrant33:FarknGroovn: Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption? Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No. Most of the time (for drugs that are used primarily by humans) they are exactly the same pills, because why would you keep, manufacture and inventory two different stocks?

In any case, the pharmacist was snoozing on the job. You don't give dogs Vicodin because the Tylenol is toxic to dogs. You give them Rimadyl. The idiot vet tech didn't learn anything on the job either, because Rimadyl is an excellent opioid painkiller with applications in humans too. Not cheaper, but much less likely to draw suspicion, and with greater effect than Vicodin.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol. Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However, doesn't that usually have tylenol in it? Wondering if I should call my vet.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol. Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.

The latter being the active ingredient in Tylenol. Lock that junkie up for good.

They are two ingredients in the same pill. Ironically, that's why it's not a good idea to take too much of the shiat - not because of the hydrocodone, but because the Tylenol will turn your liver to mush.

FarknGroovn:Just a question - aren't pet drugs substantially less pure than the drugs manufactured for human consumption? Wouldn't this be a bad thing for this woman?

No. There are drugs that are strictly for veterinary usage, but drugs that are also used in human medicine are the same. Only the dosage sizes may be smaller for packaging for veterinary usage. But this is actually pretty unusual, because of costs. Usually an adult of pediatric dosage is prescribed and pills are divided. Capsules are usually dissolved in a liquid medium, but you have to find a compounding pharmacist for this. There are compounding veterinary pharmacists who use liquid media that is formulated to be tasty to dogs and cats.

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However, doesn't that usually have tylenol in it? Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg. That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills. Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them. It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg:The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

5-7.5 mg is TINY. 500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill. When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone. But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE. 800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human. Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally. You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.

kitsuneymg:ts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

Called the vet, vet said nothing to worry about. Thanks for the advice.

Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

Firethorn:Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg. That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills. Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them. It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

Ibuprofin is not Acetaminophen.

BTW... the only reason acetaminophin is legal is because it was grandfathered in by the FDA. If it had been invented today there is no way it would have past safety regs it's that dangerous. Why they continue to use it as a base for pain meds is beyond me... well aside from maybe a profit angle. There are much better, less toxic alternatives available now.

Yes. 4g max. Vicodin comes in 5/500, 7.5/750 and 5/350 (with 5 being the mg of the hydrocodone and the larger being Acetaminophen )I've never heard of giving a dog vicodin. She should have written the script for Tramadol which would have been much more believeable.Plus Tramadol is a synthetic opiate that works just like an opiate but is not on the federal scheduel system.

Thanks for the answers - algrant - my dog just got a scrip for hydrocodone, poor guy is not doing so well these days. However, doesn't that usually have tylenol in it? Wondering if I should call my vet.

The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

Prescription strength Ibuprofen, "Motrin" is 800mg. That makes the dose limit a mere 5 pills. Last time I was sick, I was given a bottle of 50 of them. It would take an idiot less than 5 minutes to consume enough to cause permanent damage.

kitsuneymg: The hydrocodone I've always gotten has said the amounts of each it contains on the bottle. I've been issues scripts for 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen and 7.5/500. I would check the bottle and script. If they do not mention, I'd call the vet. Hydrocodone, in my experience, always has acetaminophen.

5-7.5 mg is TINY. 500 mg makes for a fairly substantial pill. When it comes to feeding it to humans, it's pretty safe to 'bulk up' with a cheap filler of acetaminophen which enhances the effect of the hydrocodone. But it's perfectly possible to get it with different fillers such as aspirin or ibuprofen.

Further research says that much of the problem is with dosage SIZE. 800mg is a fairly substantial dose for a 150-200 pound human. Even a 200 mg otc version would be a larger dose for a 25lb dog, proportionally. You'd probably want to stick with 100mg.

mama2tnt:Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?

My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.

Mike Chewbacca:mama2tnt: Crap, I can't help but feel for anyone who needs painkillers (for themselves) for whatever reason.

/Let's start another "legalize everything!" thread. Please?

My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.

Ouch. That's terrible. Sorry for your loss, fellow farker. I'm not sure which is worse, workplace injuries or the meds prescribed for them.

Mike Chewbacca:My uncle just committed suicide because of his bad back (on the job injury from 30 years of lifting patients) and some severe nerve damage in his face. The drugs barely dented the pain. It's a farked up situation and we're all devastated. He was my favorite uncle. I'm also devastated that such a good guy could be in such pain that suicide became necessary. He deserved better.

That sucks and I know that feel. Shame he couldn't hang on. I've been in those dark moments for months/years on end where you just want it to end because you can't do ANYTHING and the pain seems like it will NEVER go away. Fortunately I toughed it out and did my best to keep my mind occupied. Life still blows and the pain is still constantly there but the "KILL ME NOW" level of pain has subsided enough that I can at least work on the computer for more than ten minutes at a time.

Non-stop debilitating pain can be very lonely and does terrible things to a person's mental well being.