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I've used a ThermaRest and a TNF Cat's Meow down to the mid-upper 30's in a HH classic entry(bottom) and was almost too warm, not warm enough to vent, but warm enough that it could have gotten colder and still been fine

Used the same setup in the high 40s at 5000 feet during a windy, misty, damp night. Sweated my back off on that thermarest... Wound up leaving sleeping bag open from the waist up, with a light fleece blanket on top of me (I use it as a bag liner because it feels better than the nylon) I have no doubt with the thermarest I could have gone much colder with that setup, especially with the bag zipped up and the liner inside. I had the rainfly flaps closed in tight, which was a problem with condensation, but it was so moist outside, EVERYTHING was wet in the morning. Water condensed on the trees and rained down on me all night. But it sure beat the 95 degree weather down at 500 feet...

A military surplus poncho liner, or woobie, should do well as an under quilt. It will have ties already built on to it and can be used for many other things as well. I'm sure one of the more senior members can correct me if I am wrong but this is what I plan to do with the woobie I have on order.

Last edited by ZakBait; 12-24-2012 at 21:37.
Reason: the post above me seems to have addressed this issue

I have used the blue ccf in my HHBPUL with bottom entry. It was a straight unmodified pad (no SPE). I placed a wool blanket over it to lie on, which helped avoid the cold shoulder syndrome. There is a knack to getting into the bottom entry which entails rolling the bottom half of the ccf/blanket up, sitting down, and then lifting legs to unroll ccf/ blanket. The wool between myself and the pad likely helped avoid condensation problems others have talked about. I also did the woodsmans blanket roll which offers extra insulation around your feet. Remember to have him do a test hang somewhere with an easy bailout if needed.

I got a HH expedition zip for Xmas and am planning on using it tonight at -5 to -10c with 40-60 km winds and snow.

My question is what order do you layer the pads, reflector and use what I have on hand. I have some good ideas and am not a complete newb but I don't feel like learning on my own when others have already.