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I've been attempting to get lucid in a dream since about the beginning of last year with no luck. The closest I've got to lucid dreaming was when I was semi lucid, and in that particular dream I barely had any self awareness. There's two things that almost always happen in my dreams that both pisses me off and probably hinders my ability to recognize I'm in the dream state - 1, I can only remember my dreams to a degree; I always remember tiny parts of it but usually never enough to fill a page, not to mention the dreams themselves are not very clear at all. 2, the dreams I have are almost always about normal situations like school, shopping, and driving to name a few. Plus when I have to wake up for school at about 5 in the morning, it almost kills my dream recall compared to how it is on weekends.

Now, when I try doing a WILD, my body never falls asleep. Once I sat entirely still for 2 hours, mind quiet as can be, and nothing happened. When I try pretty much any MILD technique, the above happens. So if anybody has any ideas on how I can somehow achieve lucidity, please tell me because I'm in lucid dream limbo right now.

"One of the biggest problems here though, is we all share the same fate,To live and to die on Earth, and work nine to eight.Watching you on my TV, even if it's an act,Makes me want to emulate you, and start fighting back"-Thunder (ironfist)

There are certain images in most people's dreams that are triggers to remind them they are dreaming. For example - think about your own dreams. If you try to turn on a light, does it usually fail to come on? If you try to read something in a dream, does the text shift, or seem to be in a foreign language? If you look at a clock, does it tell time at all, or does it melt or otherwise function abnormally?

All of these things are like triggers to get you to recognize that you're dreaming - because once you recognize that you're dreaming WHILE you're dreaming, you can then usually make the leap to lucidity.

To get a better handle on it, try this: throughout your day, look at the clock, for example. Is it working normally? Ask yourself with awareness: AM I DREAMING? Whenever you turn on a lightswitch, have awareness of when the light actually comes on. Again, ask yourself, AM I DREAMING? If you get in the habit of checking yourself while you're awake, that habit will eventually carry over into dreaming - so the NEXT time you turn on a lightswitch in a dream and the light doesn't come on, when you ask yourself AM I DREAMING?... and the answer is "Yes!" you will then have a tool to use to propel yourself into lucidity.

There are lots of other techniques - but those are the ones that usually work for me.

Good luck with it.

By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it.The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired. (Nikos Kazantzakis)

ironfist wrote:Now, when I try doing a WILD, my body never falls asleep. Once I sat entirely still for 2 hours, mind quiet as can be, and nothing happened.

I have had this problem many times.

The body cannot always fall asleep on its own without the mind shutting down. To have the mind be awake with the body asleep is not natural and it must be "forced" in that it won't just happen on its own.

You must learn to relax the body and feel the "vibrations"--something you can read about. Also your mind must be clear--else you cannot focus. If the mind is too overstimulated, it will be almost impossible to get into this relaxed state.

espiritus wrote:There are certain images in most people's dreams that are triggers to remind them they are dreaming. For example - think about your own dreams. If you try to turn on a light, does it usually fail to come on? If you try to read something in a dream, does the text shift, or seem to be in a foreign language? If you look at a clock, does it tell time at all, or does it melt or otherwise function abnormally?

All of these things are like triggers to get you to recognize that you're dreaming - because once you recognize that you're dreaming WHILE you're dreaming, you can then usually make the leap to lucidity.

To get a better handle on it, try this: throughout your day, look at the clock, for example. Is it working normally? Ask yourself with awareness: AM I DREAMING? Whenever you turn on a lightswitch, have awareness of when the light actually comes on. Again, ask yourself, AM I DREAMING? If you get in the habit of checking yourself while you're awake, that habit will eventually carry over into dreaming - so the NEXT time you turn on a lightswitch in a dream and the light doesn't come on, when you ask yourself AM I DREAMING?... and the answer is "Yes!" you will then have a tool to use to propel yourself into lucidity.

Blam wrote:The body cannot always fall asleep on its own without the mind shutting down. To have the mind be awake with the body asleep is not natural and it must be "forced" in that it won't just happen on its own.

You must learn to relax the body and feel the "vibrations"--something you can read about. Also your mind must be clear--else you cannot focus. If the mind is too overstimulated, it will be almost impossible to get into this relaxed state.

These two things I will definitely work on.

Blam wrote:Put another way, you must be lucid to achieve lucidity.

That makes sense. That's also probably the reason why I haven't become lucid yet.

"One of the biggest problems here though, is we all share the same fate,To live and to die on Earth, and work nine to eight.Watching you on my TV, even if it's an act,Makes me want to emulate you, and start fighting back"-Thunder (ironfist)