So now for a comp like TSG, what's looking better? Frost or going unholy and spamming necros. Obliterate is hitting like a truck atm with the 498 weapons, so I'm not really sure

Unholy for sure, more pressure, survival & mobility, you can beak your healers sheep, blind, traps etc with unholy frenzy... it lacks burst though what isnt really needed with a warrior backing you up. There is no real choice anymore if you ask me. Go Unholy.

The higher absorb only works on player targets, just applied a 90k absorb with 1 strike on a full geared shaman. Thats a fact.

Like I said it always scaled with pvp power and it doesn't ignore res. With both trinkets up and fallen crusader on 61% res target I get 75k absorb. Ns always scaled really good, that's the reason you see these numbers. Also battle fatigue is what makes it really good right now.

Unholy for sure, more pressure, survival & mobility, you can beak your healers sheep, blind, traps etc with unholy frenzy... it lacks burst though what isnt really needed with a warrior backing you up. There is no real choice anymore if you ask me. Go Unholy.

With so much burst, it looks like UH still isn't best choice. Usually when door of arena opens many just pop their cool downs in first 10 sec, at least frost has an option to out damage opponents but UH doesn't.

With so much burst, it looks like UH still isn't best choice. Usually when door of arena opens many just pop their cool downs in first 10 sec, at least frost has an option to out damage opponents but UH doesn't.

So how do you deal with burst openers of for example KFC when they pop cooldowns once hey can touch one of you ? Also at the end do you match warrior damage or you out dps him?

I out damage everything because of spreading tripper. Against cleave teams i always start in blood presence and for countering burst there is hand of protection. Against mages just try to destroy their opener, then they are not that much of a problem. You should definatly try unholy out.

I out damage everything because of spreading tripper. Against cleave teams i always start in blood presence and for countering burst there is hand of protection. Against mages just try to destroy their opener, then they are not that much of a problem. You should definatly try unholy out.