vladimir

This Topic is an attempt to get out to Spanish-speaking visitors of the Prison Planet Forum. Spanish-speakers can offer corrections of the translations. Forum monitors are welcome to correct the (at least my) Spanish. There are lot's of Forum visitors who are fluent or semi-fluent in Spanish. And BabelFish(c) is not really adequate to the task of reaching the Spanish-speaking community that is semi-fluent or nonfluent in English, in the U.S. and worldwide. So, here's my attempt to reach them. Mrs Jones, I welcome your suggestions and corrections.

English speakers: if you want to post in English and desire a translation (which I hope will be the case), please indicate with the words SPANISH TRANSLATION WANTED (or something similar). I'll do my best to provide a translation (or someone else will) in a subsequent posted quote.

The next post has a link to a Madrid website that has an important Alex Jones video with Spanish subtitles. Abajo el Nuevo Orden Mundial! Down with the New World Order!

I get the opportunity from time to time to offer a translation of an article on YouTube or for the Forum. My Spanish isn't perfect either, but I work with an editor translating for another site. I hardly ever do it on the fly. I welcome your help.

Translation: There are a lot of good articles on Spanish-language websites. You can also look for timely material that would complement what's found here on the Forum and post a Spanish translation. There are some pretty good websites that offer free automatic translations (I use them to get a start on a translation I'm doing) and some great free bilingual dictionaries, and we'll post the links to them. Translations don't have to be perfect, but the sense of the original should come through.

Translation: Bilingual Forum bloggers will try to come up with an English translation to go along with the Spanish or suggest corrections to yours. The Forum "Quote" mechanism could be used to quote an original Spanish article/post, in part or as a whole, and the English translation put below it. We could then provide the English translation in one step or even in stages. I've played around with color-coding, but the "Quote" box may be better: you can post in Spanish and give your best English translation in a "Quote" box, or vice-versa. Let's hear some ideas!

Translation: Many of the posts already on the Prison Planet Forum (sometimes a few together) are classic Forum material that would be of interest to people in the Spanish-speaking world. There are, of course, the Prison Planet articles by Paul Watson and other regulars. Conversely, there are many blogsites with blog posts which support the work of Alex Jones; and there are many 9/11 sites with good material in Spanish. We just might come to be a regular source for Spanish-speaking truthers and for 9/11 Truth websites here in the bi-lingual U.S.

Translation: People who have transcriptions of video originals can post those here. We will translate them and make them available on this topic for use by those with editing equipment, so that they can embed them in the video originals as subtitles. I can foresee this topic filling up fast! Time to pull in some Euros and pesos with an international money bomb!

Translation: I'd eventually like to see the same thing done for French. There are a lot of French-speakers in Canada who are bi-lingual in English. Quebecois French is very little different from the French of France, Belgium, and the former French colonies of Africa.

Translation: There are endless possibilities. This is what I call internationalism: not the amalgamating idea of the global elite(s) to have everyone living under the same rule and sharing the same McCulture. We can either hang together as peoples of sovereign cultures or hang separately as slaves for the global feudalists.

This is GREAT THANK YOU! Now my parents will be able to watch/read it.

That generation just likes to read/view movies in their language. Usually when they watcha movie, they put the text so they can see it. My mom and dad can speak english but itsjust easier on their ears to see it in spanish.

vladimir

well why not create a compound where raping your kids are legal? you complain about language being a slow stat quo pro. why not learn a few languages and get your puckered out that leatherskinned book. maybe you might get somewhere.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. But if your first language is Dutch or Afrikaans, perhaps you can understand this. There are no pedophiles here. There is no place here for bashing Islam or any other religion. The honest practitioners of religion are our allies. Those who use religion for foul deeds are our enemies. See how religious people can embrace righteousness: http://www.nkusa.org/ And here the words of (Torah Jew) Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss: http://www.nkusa.org/Media_Clips/mp3/2008_12_28SpeechDurban.mp3

thx, the website www.skyfind.wordpress.com has 11 sections with a lot of info, documents, and more, and there is other section with News that i will put everyday in relation to the others 11 sections. All of this in spanish / translated to spanish

The next in english, below in spanishLo siguiente en ingles, abajo en español

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The section "2012" is not the same "new age" bullshit, I explain the real meaning of this date, in wich each human will decide wich path to follow- If continue with the way of life that repress us, lie to us, kill and enslave us, wich will be the new world order, that for this date it will be ready (now we have the codex alimentarius at the end of december of this year 2009)- Or that way given by the nature, wich will alow us to live pacefully ones with others, and without destroyig the environment and ourselves.

To the majority of the people "the new age movemente" make them believe that only because this date arrive.... phuf! magically your problems will disappear and you will be in a "world of light"

Well, i wanted to make clear this part of my site, and the meaning of my site is based largely in all the new world order and how it extend and what it does, and communicate the other way that we have to live in harmony with the nature and each of us

OK, me no speakie spanol so can someone be responsible to make sure the posts do not direct our spanish speaking guests to CoIntelPro sites and other disinfo?

Thanks

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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Yes, Sane. I'm trying to do that myself. But the Spanish-speakers who visit will let us know if something isn't right. So far, most, if not all, of the Spanish posts have been accompanied by Spanish translations. This is, of course, a serious question; and I thank you for it.

Translation: Here is a post about an article by Greg Palast. Would anyone like to try translating it? It's 20 days old. I think there's an original report in Spanish which the article mentions. Alternatively, maybe someone knows about another one that's more timely.

This past weekend, Colombia invaded Ecuador, killed a guerrilla chief in the jungle, opened his laptop – and what did the Colombians find? A message to Hugo Chavez that he sent the FARC guerrillas $300 million – which they’re using to obtain uranium to make a dirty bomb!

That’s what George Bush tells us. And he got that from his buddy, the strange right-wing President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.

So: After the fact, Colombia justifies its attempt to provoke a border war as a way to stop the threat of WMDs! Uh, where have we heard that before?

The US press snorted up this line about Chavez’ $300 million to “terrorists” quicker than the young Bush inhaling Colombia’s powdered export.

What the US press did not do is look at the evidence, the email in the magic laptop. (Presumably, the FARC leader’s last words were, “Listen, my password is ….”)

I read them. (You can read them here) While you can read it all in español, here is, in translation, the one and only mention of the alleged $300 million from Chavez:

“… With relation to the 300, which from now on we will call “dossier,” efforts are now going forward at the instructions of the boss to the cojo [slang term for ‘cripple’], which I will explain in a separate note. Let’s call the boss Ángel, and the cripple Ernesto.”

Got that? Where is Hugo? Where’s 300 million? And 300 what? Indeed, in context, the note is all about the hostage exchange with the FARC that Chavez was working on at the time (December 23, 2007) at the request of the Colombian government.

Indeed, the entire remainder of the email is all about the mechanism of the hostage exchange. Here’s the next line:“To receive the three freed ones, Chavez proposes three options: Plan A. Do it to via of a ‘humanitarian caravan’; one that will involve Venezuela, France, the Vatican[?], Switzerland, European Union, democrats [civil society], Argentina, Red Cross, etc.”

As to the 300, I must note that the FARC’s previous prisoner exchange involved 300 prisoners. Is that what the ‘300’ refers to? ¿Quien sabe? Unlike Uribe, Bush and the US press, I won’t guess or make up a phastasmogoric story about Chavez mailing checks to the jungle.

To bolster their case, the Colombians claim, with no evidence whatsoever, that the mysterious “Angel” is the code name for Chavez. But in the memo, Chavez goes by the code name … Chavez.

Well, so what? This is what . . . .Colombia’s invasion into Ecuador is a rank violation of international law, condemned by every single Latin member of the Organization of American States. But George Bush just loved it. He called Uribe to back Colombia, against, “the continuing assault by narco-terrorists as well as the provocative maneuvers by the regime in Venezuela.”

Well, our President may have gotten the facts ass-backward, but Bush knows what he’s doing: shoring up his last, faltering ally in South America, Uribe, a desperate man in deep political trouble.

Uribe claims he is going to bring charges against Chavez before the International Criminal Court. If Uribe goes there in person, I suggest he take a toothbrush: it was just discovered that right-wing death squads held murder-planning sessions at Uribe’s ranch. Uribe’s associates have been called before the nation’s Supreme Court and may face prison.

In other words, it’s a good time for a desperate Uribe to use that old politico’s wheeze, the threat of war, to drown out accusations of his own criminality. Furthermore, Uribe’s attack literally killed negotiations with FARC by killing FARC’s negotiator, Raul Reyes. Reyes was in talks with both Ecuador and Chavez about another prisoner exchange. Uribe authorized the negotiations. However, Uribe knew, should those talks have succeeded in obtaining the release of those kidnapped by the FARC, credit would have been heaped on Ecuador and Chavez, and discredit heaped on Uribe.

Luckily for a hemisphere on the verge of flames, the President of Ecuador, Raphael Correa, is one of the most level-headed, thoughtful men I’ve ever encountered.

Correa is now flying from Quito to Brazilia to Caracas to keep the region from blowing sky high. While moving troops to his border – no chief of state can permit foreign tanks on their sovereign soil – Correa also refuses sanctuary to the FARC . Indeed, Ecuador has routed out 47 FARC bases, a better track record than Colombia’s own, corrupt military.

For his cool, peaceable handling of the crisis, I will forgive Correa for apologizing for his calling Bush, “a dimwitted President who has done great damage to his country and the world.” (Watch an excerpt of my interview with Correa here.)

Amateur Hour in Blue

We can trust Correa to keep the peace South of the Border. But can we trust our Presidents-to-be?

The current man in the Oval Office, George Bush, simply can’t help himself: an outlaw invasion by a right-wing death-squad promoter is just fine with him.

But guess who couldn’t wait to parrot the Bush line? Hillary Clinton, still explaining that her vote to invade Iraq was not a vote to invade Iraq, issued a statement nearly identical to Bush’s, blessing the invasion of Ecuador as Colombia’s “right to defend itself.” And she added, “Hugo Chávez must stop these provoking actions.” Huh?

I assumed that Obama wouldn’t jump on this landmine – especially after he was blasted as a foreign policy amateur for suggesting he would invade across Pakistan’s border to hunt terrorists.

It’s embarrassing that Barack repeated Hillary’s line nearly verbatim, announcing, “the Colombian government has every right to defend itself.”

(I’m sure Hillary’s position wasn’t influenced by the loan of a campaign jet to her by Frank Giustra. Giustra has given over a hundred million dollars to Bill Clinton projects. Last year, Bill introduced Giustra to Colombia’s Uribe. On the spot, Giustra cut a lucrative deal with Uribe for Colombian oil.)

Then there’s Mr. War Hero. John McCain weighed in with his own idiocies, announcing that, “Hugo Chavez is establish[ing] a dictatorship,” presumably because, unlike George Bush, Chavez counts all the votes in Venezuelan elections.

But now our story gets tricky and icky.

The wise media critic Jeff Cohen told me to watch for the press naming McCain as a foreign policy expert and labeling the Democrats as amateurs. Sure enough, the New York Times, on the news pages Wednesday, called McCain, “a national security pro.”

McCain is the “pro” who said the war in Iraq would cost nearly nothing in lives or treasury dollars.

But, on the Colombian invasion of Ecuador, McCain said, “I hope that tensions will be relaxed, President Chavez will remove those troops from the borders - as well as the Ecuadorians - and relations continue to improve between the two.”

It’s not quite English, but it’s definitely not Bush. And weirdly, it’s definitely not Obama and Clinton cheerleading Colombia’s war on Ecuador.

Democrats, are you listening? The only thing worse than the media attacking Obama and Clinton as amateurs is the Democratic candidates’ frightening desire to prove them right.

This is all great stuff. I've been hoping for something like this especially since my spanish could use some work and I have a difficult time explaining nwo related news articles to my parents. I just bought my mom her first computer and will be forwarding this to her as soon as she gets internet set up. Thanks and keep up the great work!

I'm surprised how well Google(c) did with the translation. The automatic-translator software is doing an ever-better job. They even caught my error leaving out the word "mal" when I was trying to say "lo deletreado mal" (misspelled it). You can compare my translation of this below with theirs.

I work at a Spanish language TV station (Univision). Truthers often ask me, "So whats the difference between Spanish News and English News?"

I usually respond, "Not too much difference... Same agenda. They piggyback off CNN when reporting American issues. They'll report on the corruption going on in South America between lower level officials, but never point the finger at those at the top of the pyramid."

One of the hardest parts of waking someone up is making them realize the facade these anchor people use when the camera is on. I tell them "When the camera is off, these people really don't give a f*ck about you."

I work at a Spanish language TV station (Univision). Truthers often ask me, "So whats the difference between Spanish News and English News?"

I usually respond, "Not too much difference... Same agenda. They piggyback off CNN when reporting American issues. They'll report on the corruption going on in South America between lower level officials, but never point the finger at those at the top of the pyramid."

One of the hardest parts of waking someone up is making them realize the facade these anchor people use when the camera is on. I tell them "When the camera is off, these people really don't give a f*ck about you."

English: Chavez has to promote socialism to promote and defend his left cover. Chavez, the Bolivarista, is a petty bourgeois nationalist (nacionalista pequeña burgesa): but he is a sincere one and a patriot in regard to his native republic (something Obama isn't). With Obama making "socialist" noises, Chavez is tasked to push Obama's socialist rhetoric to satisfy that majority of his Venezuelan supporters who are too ignorant of the history of socialism not to realize that his own socialist rhetoric is a mere cover for him almost as much as it is for Obama. Venezuela is a target of world imperialism, and for that reason Chavez is defensible up to a point. But he should be supported as a rope supports a hanging man with authentic Marxist polemic: to allow the real potential revolutionary forces in Venezuela to move forward and pass him by. These forces are present, as can be assumed from the degree to which Chavez postures as an authentic socialist. Authentic Marxian socialism is not opposed to private property (except when used by Big Capital to oppress the majority), nor is it against free enterprise -- on the contrary, it is the only road to the security of property in the hands of the many and to real free enterprise.

vladimir

I work at a Spanish language TV station (Univision). Truthers often ask me, "So whats the difference between Spanish News and English News?"

I usually respond, "Not too much difference... Same agenda. They piggyback off CNN when reporting American issues. They'll report on the corruption going on in South America between lower level officials, but never point the finger at those at the top of the pyramid."

One of the hardest parts of waking someone up is making them realize the facade these anchor people use when the camera is on. I tell them "When the camera is off, these people really don't give a f*ck about you."

A little about Marx and communism, info I found long ago, sorry if I can not put the source, which I could not find (check below to read something comprehensive[?])

1-Communism was created by the Jews Mardochai Haim Kissel (aka Carl Marx), Vladimir I. Ulianof Blanc (aka Lenin), Leiba Davidovich [actually, Leib Davidovich; the author translates 'Leib's'] (aka Trotzki), as well as Ferdinand Lasalle and Karl Kautzky conspired to change their Jewish names. And the first philosopher of Communism Friedrich Engels was a Jew. It's clear that they were distorting the original ideas of the German philosopher Eugen Düring.

3 - The biggest murderer in history, Stalin was named Iosif Vissarionovitch Djugaschwili and belonged to the Karaite religious sect - split of from the Mosaic religion [so was Christianity!]- and his mosaic-Georgian surname means "son of Judiah".

4 - In all the Commissioners and senior posts of the Bolshevik government Jews always occupied over 80% of the positions, although they were only between 1 and 1.5% of the population. In 1918 the ranking bureaucracy - Soviets and ministries - consisted of 534 individuals, of whom 429 were JEWS.

5 - The shortcomings of Soviet production, especially wheat, were always covered by their mortal 'enemies', the Jews of North America (USA). And the financing of the 'Russian' revolution was done out of the U.S. by the JEWS Jacob Schiff, Felix Warburg, Max Breitung, Otto H. Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Jerome H. Hanauer, and in particular by the Bank of Kuhn Loeb & Co., in complicity with the Jewish Mafia of the Rothschild Family in England.

6 - Was it the same Jews in 1913, later to elect democratically Woodrow Wilson, who forged the creation of the Federal Reserve Board, the super-governmental entity formed by 5 private JEWISH banks, which usurped the functions of the Central Bank and up to the present time prints and controls the dollar currency? (Even presenting them to the same yankee government AT INTEREST!)

7 - In 1848 Karl Marx wrote in his letter to Rabbi BARUCH LEVI: "This new organization of humanity, the children of Israel, scattered in every corner of the earth will be everywhere[,] will be transformed, without any opposition whatever[,] into the ruling class[,] especially if they put the working masses under their exclusive control. The governments of the nations of the future Universal Republic will fall, no effort, into the hands of the Israelites, through the victory of the proletariat. Private property may then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race, which in all parts managed public funds. Thus will the promise of the Talmud, that when the time comes the Messiah, the Jews poseeremos property of all peoples on Earth " [This is an outrageous fabrication taken verbatim out of Rosenberg/Goebbel's Volksbeobachter]

NOTE: This letter was reproduced by the "Revue de Paris" on June 1, 1928, pp. 574, as well as in "Israel, son passé, son future" [Israel, its past, its future] of the Swedish historian H. de Vries of Heekelingen, French edition, 1937, pp. 104, and in various publications of Professor Einar Aberg Swedish. One can only add that under international law: "With partial confession ..."

8 - That communism throughout its history (since 1917) was to murder 100,000,000 human beings.(end of article)

English translation:A cousin of mine I saw recently says that WordPress is antisemitic. I'm not familiar with WordPress myself, but I've seen these "disclosures" of Jewish conspiracy behind the Russian Bolsheviks before, and many times the "facts" are made up out of whole cloth. The Russian pre-revolution intelligencia was tiny and included an extremely large proportion of progressive Jews who were economically privileged. No small wonder that Jews and half-Jews accounted for a disproportionate number of the revolutionaries. Stalin was a Georgian, and most of his faction were non-Jewish: I'm not conversant with the Georgian language, but this looks like sham etymology to me - saying that the name Djugaschwili translates as "son of Judiah". One should draw a distinction between the Stalinist counter-revolution and the initial leadership under Lenin and Trotsky.

As for the letter allegedly written to Rabbi BARUCH LEVI in 1848 by Karl Marx ("...[T]he children of Israel, ...[,] will be transformed, ...[,] into the ruling class[,] especially if they put the working masses under their exclusive control. ....through the victory of the proletariat. Private property may then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race .... Thus will the promise of the Talmud ...." This is an outrageous fabrication taken verbatim out of Rosenberg/Goebbel's Nazi race-hating magazine Volksbeobachter. For one thing, Marx was an atheist (but not in the usual religion-hating sense) and even wrote a major polemic against the Jews of Germany for their avaricious impulses and lack of empathy for the toiling masses.

Hey Vladimir, why do you say that the letter was taken from the Volksbeobachter???!!!Hey Vladimir, por que dices que la carta fue sacado del Volksbeobachter???!!!

did you see this?:Viste esto?:

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NOTE: This letter was reproduced by the "Revue de Paris" on June 1, 1928, pp. 574, as well as in "Israel, are passé, they are future of the Swedish historian H. de Vries of Heekelingen, French edition, 1937, pp. 104, and in various publications of Professor Einar Aberg Swedish. One can only add that under international law: "A confession of a ..."

BEWARE! that the author of this mini-paper of 8 points says as if they were all Jews who did this, but the thing IS NOT SO, enters the section of my site "Zionism is not Judaism," and sees that not all Jews support these events and others not know, and that this is a group of people behind the title of the Jewish people that makes events like these (as with the invasion of Iraq, not all Americans supported the slaughter, further that the government misled the fear that there were "terrorists"-which never appeared). Many pleople sick their mind and blame of all to the jewish

All of this is made by a group of people(the "elite", the "illuminati") that hide themself behind the tittle of the "Jewish people" and make all this bad things, but they don´t represent the jewish and not represent the Torah. See the section of my website "Zionism is not Judaism"

All of this is made by a group of people(the "elite", the "illuminati") that hide themself behind the tittle of the "Jewish people" and make all this bad things, but they don´t represent the jewish and not represent the Torah. See the section of my website "Zionism is not Judaism"

Indeed, the Jews never even wished to collectively emigrate from their host nations into Palestine, but they were ever keen on establishing that precious little piece of territory as the single most powerful command center of the world. What is most inconceivable, unto this very day, is the fact that Israel is the centerpiece of the foreign policy measures and wars of the entire modern white world. Hitler seems to have been an expert on Jewry, because nearly everything he had said about them, and had even prophesied, has come to pass, or is going to come to pass, if the West continues to support the illegitimate state of Israel.

Zionism is not synonymous with the Jews: it is the fascism of the Jews, as Nazism was the fascism of the Germans. El sionismo no es sinónimo con los judíos: es el fascismo de los judíos, al igual que el nazismo estaba el fascismo de los alemanes.

... and of some non-Jews, as well..... y de algunos no judíos también.

Translation: I didn't intentionally leave out anything in my quotations to make you look bad, if that was the impression you got. I realize that your aim is to target Zionism without blaming all Jews. I only have some misgivings with the Hitler-like presumption that Zionism is behind all the problems that beset the world. Some would see every major Jewish intellectual as part of a Zionist conspiracy. Many of the names of "Zionists" in your citations were actually opponents of Zionism.