Are there any other issues that bother you about nudism / naturism not covered above? How can it be Christian? Other? Any question is acceptable, just keep the conversation courteous and respectful.<P>Only Residents and higher may post here.

I have been a closet nudist for years and it wasn't until I grew in my faith that I discussed it with my wife and explained it had nothing to do with sex. She said that she understood and didn't mind me being nude around the house. I also continued being nude outside at night and in secluded places outdoors. Explaining to my wife, how I felt trapped or afraid of getting caught, she said she would try visiting our local resort if it meant that much to me. I picked a weekday, so that there would not be as many people around for our first time. I loved it and while she did not enjoy it as much as I did, she did agree to go back for the pitchin the next weekend. After the pitchin there was a dance where some of the couples were getting carried away with some of their dance moves and one got the feeling that they were there for more than the sun. This made my wife uncomfortable since I had guaranteed her it had nothing to do with sex. She now says she never cares to go back. I feel that if the swingers hadn't invaded even the advertised family nudist resorts, that you would have more women and families involved. I undrstand that they did no sexual acts in public and the clubs need the money, but it looks like 100% family clubs are a thing of the past.

richmondpapaw wrote:...it looks like 100% family clubs are a thing of the past.

That is probably an overstatement, but I can understand your frustration with the dancing taking on a sexual edge.

I have met pastors, ministers of music, Bible teachers, regular churchgoers, parents with kids and other genuinely nice folks.I stick to clubs that try extra hard to have a family atmosphere.

Do a few wild party-hearty types go to nudist venues at night? I have met them, but they are not the majority by any means at the camps I go to.I also stick to daytime activities and I have never seen anything lewd at those hours.I have also pitched my tent and had nothing but a peaceful quiet night in the campground.At our clubhouse there is usually just a lot of smoking and card playing and its an older crowd. Just not my thing.The dance floor tends to be where the trouble happens, but I understand that it is rare.

My experience with nudist camps has been very positive, even a pinnacle of spiritual growth for me.

Some folks do not have a family-friendly resort or camp near their home.While family nudism is wonderful, it can seem a bit isolated.Particularly families with children need the reinforcing power of other nudist kids to keep their own children in the nudist community rather than feeling weird about mom and dad.Well, they may still think their parents are peculiar, but not at least about social nudity.

One possible solution is a travel club or simply a gathering of naturist friends who meet from time to time.There was one such travel club in this area for a number of years.Since you determine whom you invite to your home and back yard, swingers "need not apply".

I know of a couple with a private pool who simply invited naturists to their home every month or two for a pool party.It was not a formal travel club, but only well-behaved people were invited and they behaved... well! (no big surprise).

It seems like many clubs operate out of fear of perceived discrimination. Under our current political system a lawsuit from any excluded group could put you out of business. Pardon my political statement, but if the courts in the US would stop creating laws and follow their job description given them by the Constitution, many of the worries of 'can't discriminate' against any group would go away. Then businesses can run the business.

Then

Each resort could make their determination of clients, without fear.If swingers want their own resort and there is a real need, someone would start one. (Example = There was an adult only resort in either MO or IL. Don't know if still there or not.)

MoNatureMan wrote:It seems like many clubs operate out of fear of perceived discrimination. Under our current political system a lawsuit from any excluded group could put you out of business. Pardon my political statement, but if the courts in the US would stop creating laws and follow their job description given them by the Constitution, many of the worries of 'can't discriminate' against any group would go away. Then businesses can run the business.

Then

Each resort could make their determination of clients, without fear.If swingers want their own resort and there is a real need, someone would start one. (Example = There was an adult only resort in either MO or IL. Don't know if still there or not.)

Ron

Ron,Swinging is not a legally protected class of humanity. No affirmative action requirement that every resort have their token swingers as guests or staff.

True, but the protected groups were not protected until somebody wanted to push, ''being discriminated against',got a lawyer, and a favorable judge. It is sad to say, but that is how many 'protected groups' got to where they are.

MoNatureMan wrote:True, but the protected groups were not protected until somebody wanted to push, ''being discriminated against',got a lawyer, and a favorable judge. It is sad to say, but that is how many 'protected groups' got to where they are.

Ron

Well if you are talking about homosexuals and lesbians, they tend to form their own naturist clubs, but sometimes I see an effeminate man at a club event.Our club tends to be mostly married couples, some old, some young and a few singles.I know of one club that has a waiting list for unescorted males, others tend to attract so many families with children that they far outnumber the single men.So, no need for a waiting list if they do the work of attracting a better cross-section of society, including women.Some clubs won't let married men come without their wife, but I am talking about men who are truly unmarried.

I guess two guys could arrive together as a couple, but the social climate is such that they usually prefer to go to the gay clubs rather than ours.

Back to swingers. They are so abundant at some nudist clubs that it would seem to stem from a greedy resort owner who seems to be motivated to take their money and look the other way.Our club makes it clear that bad behavior will be dealt with swiftly and severely.No one is peeking in the windows in the RV's and trailers at night to make sure there are only two to a bed, but no one dare try anything lewd near the pool.

Ramblinman wrote:Our club tends to be mostly married couples, some old, some young and a few singles.I know of one club that has a waiting list for unescorted males, others tend to attract so many families with children that they far outnumber the single men.

Our club makes it clear that bad behavior will be dealt with swiftly and severely.

Ramblinman, would you mind divulging the name of your club and the one you mention that attracts so many families?

Thanks

SON-cerely, Nathan PowersGet exposed to the sun, and get exposed to the Son.