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Saturday, December 6, 2014

Consider: Michael Brown

I've been waiting for someone to exercise a particular bit of critical thinking to the Michael Brown event, particularly from his first contact with Wilson until his death.

This little exercise is not me taking sides. It is simply me doing what I do - look at something and challenge the conventional wisdom, especially the premise. I'm not saying my perspective is what really happened between Brown and Wilson. But I will say: Not one person reading this post will be able to deny my hypothesis based on known and verifiable facts.

Given the facts that are in the record, and given the interactions between Brown & Wilson that can only be known to Brown & Wilson, Consider:

LEO Dispatch broadcast that a robbery suspect was wanted for a box of cigarellos, and they gave a description.

LEO Wilson was responding to an unrelated call, when he passed Brown walking in the middle of the street. Wilson remembered some clothing aspects given by Dispatch, and felt he had a match for the robbery suspect. Wilson claimed he saw Brown carrying the cigarellos. Wilson ordered Brown to the sidewalk. Words were exchanged, and we assume Brown essentially told Wilson to go piss up a rope.

Wilson then put his vehicle in reverse and blocked Brown's path, as well as traffic.

More words were exchanged. We can assume (but we do not know) that Brown continued to tell Wilson to piss up a rope, and Wilson probably responded with words and tone that were at least as belligerent. Afterall, that is what they teach in LEO school. They are taught to take control of the situation by demonstrating they are the bigger dog by responding to verbal shit-talking in at least a matching tone and volume, and to degrade the suspect in some manner to prove the LEO has the bigger dick.

But what, exactly, was said can never be confirmed as fact. Brown is dead and Wilson may have told the truth, or not.

Whatever those words may have been, it prompted an unarmed man to start throwing punches at a cop, through a window. Given my personal experiences with LEO, and given the thousands of stories from places like CopWatch, I'm willing to bet Wilson did not compliment Brown. He said or did something that was sufficiently provocative that Brown started swinging. "You're too much of a pussy to shoot me" is a bit of dialogue from Brown - which indicates Wilson said or did something indicating he had raised the potential of being shot during their interaction.

Wilson responded by drawing his pistol and firing twice, one of which grazing Brown's thumb.

At this time, Brown turned and beat feet. Not an imprudent move when unarmed and facing a man who is shooting at you - a man you know will get away with it because he is PoPo.

We know that Wilson got out of his vehicle and chased Brown, threatening to shoot him. Consider what your state of mind would be if you'd just had a LEO shoot at you twice, and is now chasing you with his weapon drawn, promising to shoot you again.

Now consider this: Brown is a big boy - NFL Linebacker big - but not NFL fit. He can't run fast, and according to forensics he ran 153 feet (about 50 yards) then stopped and turned to face Wilson who was, presumably closing the distance because he is in better shape.

Now consider the world through Brown's eyes. He's grown up in Ferguson. His entire life has probably been antagonistic with LEO. Right now he is winded and Wilson is gaining on him, while threatening to shoot. Brown knows Wilson isn't bluffing, because he's already fired twice. Did Brown stop running because he knew it was only a matter of time before LEO was on him? Did he weigh all of his options and conclude that he'd never get fair treatment from Wilson - who had already shot at him and was promising more of the same? Did he decide his only chance of living was to turn and take his chances by rushing Wilson, and if he got lucky, to beat him down until Wilson was no longer a threat?

From Brown's perspective I think it is safe to say he considered himself to be in a no-win situation. A bad decision (stealing and being thuggish) had escalated out of control and now he had LEO chasing him down to kill him. Did he then decide to rush Wilson, ending as we all know it ended?

Now add these two facts: First, we all know that the Prosecutors did not advocate for a Bill to take Wilson to trial. We know how rare that action is, and if you ever expect a prosecutor to do the same for you, it could, in theory, happen. But you'll probably get Skittles from the butt of a Unicorn first.

Second fact: The cigarellos that Wilson claims to have seen in Brown's possession, part of the predicate for the stop, were never recovered at the scene.

Consider that scenario. It is at least as plausible as the scenario accepted by the Grand Jury.

No doubt, Brown was behaving thuggishly. No doubt, the typical animosity between LEO and the Black community existed.

I'm not positing this theory for copsuckers, or trying to convince the "Your skin color is your uniform" asshats who claim they are Patriots, yet have no understanding of what Rightful Liberty means. I did not write this for that special subset of "Patriots" who denounce everything LEO does, except when LEO does it to a person of color. I did not write it for those idiots who may one day find a black man with an AR coming down the road, and shoot at 100 yards, yet let the same man approach his position if he is white with an AR.

I write this for genuine Patriots who mean to be the best Human Beings they can be as History is about to write one hellishly brutal chapter about us. I wrote it so good men and women who may not have applied serious critical thinking to the situation might do so, and remember to do so in the future.

Think for yourself. Be as objective as you can be. Never accept, without question, what is told to you by anyone - especially if that person has a perspective that skews the conclusion. You must think for yourself and you must learn to trust your own brain. A Counter-Revolution has no place for non-thinkers.

20 comments:

K, unless I'm mis-reading this, "More words were exchanged. We can assume (but we do not know) that Brown continued to tell Wilson to piss up a rope, and Brown probably responded with words and tone that were at least as belligerent. After all, that is what they teach in LEO school." shouldn't it read "wilson probably responded........" ?

I'm just asking for my clarification, so I understand your perspective on this. Thanks.

is it just me or does anyone else see the conflagration of egos here..??? 18 yo, big as a house, invincible(in his own mind as so many teens are even without the bully attitude), who bullies his way around all too often v. trained, badged, paid, shielded authoritarian bully... each imposing their will on others in their own way within their separate worlds... those separate worlds then collided with catastrophic consequence for both... some will say inevitability, others will claim karma... was Brown known to Wilson as a punk actor in the 'hood..? did Wilson patrol that area as a part of any kind of beat..? was Wilson known to address such things as individuals walking in the street - meaning was he that petty..? did these 2 have an unacknowledged history..?

only questions without relevant answers and 2 facts: Brown is dead; Wilson's life is forever altered...

from the perspective of my profession - which is by no means all-encompassing - I see ego as the overwhelming driving force behind this tragedy... either side could have eased up at any point but didn't... we here are in the unique position of occasionally having to deal with this same ego problem from both sides of the issue... person A gets belligerent and leo B raises the ante at least 1 notch higher... on the more rare occasion, even the leo cops an ego toward us...

Preacher, a serious question for you, would you view this as ego or arrogance? I ask that for two reasons:

1-given the attitude of many leo to function, as you put it, "trained, badged, paid, shielded authoritarian bully" would you agree or not that the actions which happened in this incident are beyond ego? 2-with the inclination for most individuals in this "modern society" to be self-centered and impatient, because of several influences, would you agree or not that most leo are operating with the knowledge that unless an incident is extremely outrageous, the leo will, at worst, endure a few weeks of media focus, and then will go back to what passes for normal work for them.

I ask this because, imo, ego is a positive personality trait unless mixed or altered by arrogance, selfishness, control issues, et al.........

Change human nature? good thought, but that goes back to the individual, most will refuse to change. It's a rare frame of mind for a person to recognize that there are morals and standards which have existed for thousands of years, but that living within these standards, isn't difficult, it's actually enjoyable. For most, living with the illusion is more comfortable.

Maybe someone reading this would say I'm talking about being perfect, that's not my intention, and that's a false argument. Mistakes happen, none of us are perfect, the key is for the individual to learn from the mistake, anyone that focuses on the mistake instead of what the person learned from it and improved their perspective is living a lie.

I'm getting off my soap box, K, just wanted to throw that out into the electrons. :)

I'm not positing this theory for copsuckers, or trying to convince the "Your skin color is your uniform" asshats who claim they are Patriots, yet have no understanding of what Rightful Liberty means. I did not write this for that special subset of "Patriots" who denounce everything LEO does, except when LEO does it to a person of color. I did not write it for those idiots who may one day find a black man with an AR coming down the road, and shoot at 100 yards, yet let the same man approach his position if he is white with an AR."

Well said,and it is a problem among the liberty/III%/patriot "movement"-there's far too many who look at the forest,yet do not see the trees.

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"I write this for genuine Patriots who mean to be the best Human Beings they can be as History is about to write one hellishly brutal chapter about us. I wrote it so good men and women who may not have applied serious critical thinking to the situation might do so, and remember to do so in the future."

Are the people who need to get it through the heads of those who only see the forest,that they have to see the individual trees that make up the forest,and that the individuals in the real world have value as assets.

Plainly not, since neither ego benefited. Both suffered enormously, one to the point of its own elimination. Notice that it's not because they were necessarily stupid or anything, but because they were NOT driven by their own egos seeking to enhance their own existence.

Had they been driven by their egos, neither one of them would've even been there in the first place. Naturally I'd say that's VERY important to understand.

first, since when must one's ego reap any benefit other than being the one who wins over the other..???? ego combined with arrogance is exactly what had Brown in the street and not on the sidewalk after the admonition... he would not be dominated by the popo...

the confrontation and outcome is what we're addressing, not why either had bully qualities or if either had examined his own purpose in life or cause of being...

"first, since when must one's ego reap any benefit other than being the one who wins over the other..????"

Must? It doesn't of course. Just another choice. Surely you don't mean to argue against benefit generally, do you?

"ego combined with arrogance is exactly what had Brown in the street and not on the sidewalk after the admonition... he would not be dominated by the popo..."

Maybe, or maybe something else. I don't know and neither do you. But again I wonder...are you saying "not be dominated" is necessarily a bad thing? I'm confident that's not what you believe.

"the confrontation and outcome is what we're addressing, not why either had bully qualities or if either had examined his own purpose in life or cause of being..."

LOL. The whole reason this sub-thread is even here is because you attributed both parties' actions to some benefit of the ego. If you're just saying that EVERY action by EVERY person is ultimately caused by the ego, then no duh...there's no other way for ANYTHING to happen in the human realm, except of course for literal physical force.

So that would say nothing. You were saying that it was a misguided benefit to the ego that drove them to do what they did, and I was just pointing out that it was no benefit to the ego at all--an extreme disbenefit in both cases--and so therefore it would be mistaken to believe that this was their motivation...let alone the implicit message that it should never be one's motivation. In truth, it should ALWAYS be. In your verbiage, otherwise there'd be no point to the Free Will that God gave us.

from my view, arrogance is inextricable from ego... what other motivation could there be for a super-sized teen to try to hammer-fist an leo - or anyone else - for an alleged directive to walk on the sidewalk..? i make a distinction between a healthy self-respect and an inflated ego

as you pointed out, today's society seems to be over-run with those whose opinions of themselves are way out of proportion to their actual importance in the overall scheme of things... unfortunately Brown's, learning curve dropped abruptly when he was - whether "justified" or not...

with regard to the issue of ego v. self-respect, i could make the argument from a Biblical perspective but this page isn't my platform to do so...

That's just a crack, not a defense of laziness. The problem with appealing to the Bible on ego matters, is that it's the one biggest error. I'd say stop at Free Will--the one thing relevant to the subject that it's got most right--and do everything else on Earth.

As to how it all got here, that's for each person to believe whatever he wishes. None of this was ever about beliefs IMO; projectiles don't take those into account.

Sure, I thought you knew that we agree on most everything, and totally everything that may have anything to do between us. That's the nature of Free Will and Agreement, I think. Don't tell me I've got you wrong on THAT, else I may go over a cliff!

Course, I always thought it was that simple between any two people. Or more, maybe even up to 200 million.

I set out the facts concerning the two main participants in this, with regard to their egos. Obviously whatever you believe is up to you, but if /I've/ got any of the facts wrong, I'll be enormously grateful to be shown why or how. I can only improve myself, and I make that a very high priority. That's why we even agree on a lot of the spiritual stuff too.

Not if his forward progress was arrested before he hit the pavement...He had a bullet in the top of his head which means he was falling foward when he was hit...I think if I had a bullet hit me it the top of the head it would arrest my movement toward...

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Colonel Cooper: Evil Men

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

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There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern.

They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.

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What the commentators seem to be saying about the assault on Charlie Hebdo is that not only is what is spoken or published protected by the First Amendment, but those who print and publish vile things must never suffer violent consequences.

People who believe this is attainable are living in a dream world, and may not be long for this one.

LGoPs - How to win Liberty in RevWarIII - in a week

After the demise of the best Airborne plan, a most terrifying effect occurs on the battlefield. This effect is known as the rule of the LGOPs (Little Groups of Paratroopers). This is, in its purest form, small groups of pissed-off 19 year old American paratroopers. They are well trained. They are armed to the teeth and lack serious adult supervision. They collectively remember the Commander's intent as "March to the sound of the guns and kill anyone who is not dressed like you" - or something like that. Happily they go about the day's work...Little Groups of Patriots. Each group conducting their own Liberty Restoration operations to clear their respective AOs.

Leaderless Resistance, following only the Commander's Intent.

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How: In the absence of orders, find something Evil and kill it.

Bring the materiel of war with you from home, but forage on the enemy... use the conquered foe to augment one's own strength.

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Golitsyn was right...

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III Percent

Historians claim that perhaps 3 percent of Colonists took arms and fought the British.

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By any means necessary.

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Those who would be our Masters, those who insist upon infringing upon our Liberty are enemies of the republic and of humanity.