Im so happy this is your last year in NY. You seriously are garbage against the run. Stop trying to get a sack and contain your edge.

Cloud57

09-30-2012, 11:13 PM

for some reason he looks happy

middlecountrygiantsfan

09-30-2012, 11:14 PM

for some reason he looks happy

He always does that. It never seems like he changes his demeanor after he makes a bad play.

Kendo15

09-30-2012, 11:41 PM

Osi looks like he's cycling through treacle tonight.

middlecountrygiantsfan

09-30-2012, 11:42 PM

he is an absolute liability on the field right now.

CruzSoldier

09-30-2012, 11:45 PM

He's killing us.....Just contain they have all there yardage on B.S. because he is not holding his edge....

NYGabriel

09-30-2012, 11:48 PM

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BuffyBlueII

09-30-2012, 11:48 PM

for some reason he looks happyWouldn't you be happy if you were able to get millions of extra dollars from NY Giants by throwing a hissy fit before the season started and then not having to anything during the season to justify it?

Osi needs to just stay in his lane and worry about containment because Mike Vick is humiliating him this game.

m0rbid1

09-30-2012, 11:48 PM

Contain is not in his dictionary.

nycisgreat

10-01-2012, 12:07 AM

Im so happy this is your last year in NY. You seriously are garbage against the run. Stop trying to get a sack and contain your edge.

I understand that you are upsrt, but say Osi is garbage is insanely. I do agree that when he get sack happy he does get sloppy when playing the run.

BMW

10-01-2012, 12:25 AM

He's just not a smart player by any means, lots of talent but no brain.

Harooni

10-01-2012, 12:42 AM

who was telling us give him more money!!! I would have never paid his ransom

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:04 AM

He's still on the team? I thought that was Usher out there wearing number 72. Dude sure can dance well

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:05 AM

who was telling us give him more money!!! I would have never paid his ransom

Personally, I think we should have traded him when he had real value. Now we'll be lucky to a get a bag of balls for him

ShakeandBake

10-01-2012, 01:06 AM

who was telling us give him more money!!! I would have never paid his ransom

+1

Harooni

10-01-2012, 01:06 AM

He's still on the team? I thought that was Usher out there wearing number 72. Dude sure can dance well i just had a feeling to let him sit and resign toffelson during the off season , he plays with heart.

NYKiller

10-01-2012, 01:07 AM

Im so happy this is your last year in NY. You seriously are garbage against the run. Stop trying to get a sack and contain your edge.

LOL, don't tell me you guys didn't already know this.

Diamondring

10-01-2012, 01:09 AM

Osi is a overrated player. He is good only at getting sacks. Yet you still can use him. We need someone who can cover and stop the run on his side that is all. The one who should get that money is JPP. He is young and has a lot of talent and plays hard. Reese need me as a consultant.

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:13 AM

Hopefully you guys aren't giving Tuck a free pass here. He has been just as useless so far this season. JPP is getting 90% of the double teams. You would think that either of these guys could handle their business. Obviously not.

CDN_G-FAN

10-01-2012, 01:18 AM

Time to face facts gents.

We're not the holy terror at DE as we all thought we were.

Both tuck and osi have been largely invisible this season.

JPP=BEASTMODE

10-01-2012, 01:19 AM

Osi ****ed up a lot tonight

Crovaz

10-01-2012, 01:19 AM

One trick pony and he can't even execute his one trick. Waste of money, I'd rather see Ojomo or Tracy in there at this point.

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:21 AM

Time to face facts gents.

We're not the holy terror at DE as we all thought we were.

Both tuck and osi have been largely invisible this season.

They are magic men. No doubt about it

Eliscruzzz

10-01-2012, 01:21 AM

he killed us tonight I cannot wait for Canty to get back and now Phillips is out smh this team man Osi really pissed me off tonight he was absolute garbage.

Eliscruzzz

10-01-2012, 01:22 AM

most feared d-line my ***

Harooni

10-01-2012, 01:23 AM

Hopefully you guys aren't giving Tuck a free pass here. He has been just as useless so far this season. JPP is getting 90% of the double teams. You would think that either of these guys could handle their business. Obviously not. Osi i knew was not so good vs the run , Tuck surprised me with his spotty play this season. But at least he hasn't cried after signing his deal like Osi has for the last 4 seasons.

rEaS

10-01-2012, 01:32 AM

****ing osi.. football basics.. CONTAIN GOD DAMMIT CONTAIN!!!!!! i went ballistic seeing the dog killer and mccoy running back to his lane knowing he wouldnt even be there.. damn they almost ran a play knowing he would bait on the inside and vick gained a buttload of yards.. it's so frustrating.. i would prefer tracy or ojomo there..

our defense should have stepped up more..

GFiP

10-01-2012, 01:33 AM

Osi is horrible, overpaid, etc etc.

They should have traded him for a 3rd when they had the chance.

GiantWarfare

10-01-2012, 01:35 AM

Osi...lol...let me not even go in depth on this guy.

On to the big picture...at the end of the day, our pass rush is average and our only true impact player on D is JPP, therefore he gets just about all the double teams and chips on pass plays (not to mention being flagrantly held on a lot of them) basically taking him out of the game.

rEaS

10-01-2012, 01:38 AM

thats so true.. with osi and tuck doing nothing.. it's limiting JPP a lot.. last year all the teams had it wrong.. they would double tuck or osi, and leave jpp on an island with someone, which he normally won..

now teams see tuck and osi doing nothing.. and they just go after jpp

NO ****ING DISCIPLINE ON DEFENSE.. every cutback lane was there.. everyone wants to be the hero and no one can stay in their ****ing lanes.. limited players like blackburn did their best because they play with the basics as thats all they have.. osi and tuck and others tried to outsmart the O and jump and cut, and ended up looking like fools.. even JPP got in into the stupidity a few times..

FEWELL is to blame.. he needs to ride their asses this week.. we need discipline, not people trying to win the game on their own..

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:40 AM

Osi is horrible, overpaid, etc etc.

They should have traded him for a 3rd when they had the chance.

Now we can't get anything for him. He's not tripping though. He got his money. SMDH

GiantWarfare

10-01-2012, 01:41 AM

You even heard Collinsworth state that Vick said his only concern in regards to our pass rush was finding out where JPP was. Opposing OLines focus on taking #90 out of the game. Its clear as day, dude needs some help but he's not getting it, his Pro Bowl caliber line-mates have literally been invisible and its been nothing short of frustrating to witness...

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:42 AM

Osi i knew was not so good vs the run , Tuck surprised me with his spotty play this season. But at least he hasn't cried after signing his deal like Osi has for the last 4 seasons.

We had a chance to banish him to Oakland prior to this season and balked at it. Instead of making plays, he's out there trying to get perfect 10's from the Dancing With the Stars judges.

rEaS

10-01-2012, 01:44 AM

he just wants sacks.. no run defense at all.. im sure he even takes off some plays he knows that are runs..

like someone said before, a 1 trick pony that doesn't even do his one trick correctly...

Harooni

10-01-2012, 01:45 AM

We had a chance to banish him to Oakland prior to this season and balked at it. Instead of making plays, he's out there trying to get perfect 10's from the Dancing With the Stars judges. LOL thanks i needed a laugh.
I would have traded him also, his constant complaining i would have never gave into. I think he is trying to rack up sack totals which look good on paper for FA next season.

egyptian420

10-01-2012, 01:45 AM

As terrible as they played, let's not have a short memory. This same thing happened last year too, Osi and especially Tuck turned it around late in the season and got their heads out of their a##.

I don't think they're physically trash, although Osi is basically not a starter in my book, he's a 3rd down pass rushing specialist at best. I believe they can turn it around though, JPP is embarrassing them every Sunday.

BParcells777

10-01-2012, 01:45 AM

I'd bench him for Ojomo.........he really took the $5 million and went into un-announced retirement

shockeyisjesus

10-01-2012, 01:46 AM

I was always an Osi defender, I thought he was a gifted pass rusher and a mediocre run stopper which still made him an above average football player.

Now he is a primadonna, do nothing, trash talking loser who talks FAR better than he actually plays.

Hope Odjomo comes back soon and takes his place, we could really use someone who, ya know, actually understands run defense and how to keep backside containment. His overpursuit of plays looking for sacks is exactly the type of thing this team CANNOT overcome because linebackers like Kiwi and Blackburn have below average speed for NFL linebackers. They are good at driving to where the ball is being run and blowing it up for little to no yardage.

However, when guys like McCoy are able to cutback and get their motor moving across the field, Boley is literally the only linebacker we have that can even come close to keeping pace.

That's why our ends keeping containment is so important and that is why Osi is going to play himself right out of NY, if he hasn't already. I'd be fine with him sitting on the bench all next week because you KNOW he's not gonna want to try and tackle Trent freaking Richardson all game.

The Browns game could get real ugly for us on the ground.

JPP=BEASTMODE

10-01-2012, 01:46 AM

thats so true.. with osi and tuck doing nothing.. it's limiting JPP a lot.. last year all the teams had it wrong.. they would double tuck or osi, and leave jpp on an island with someone, which he normally won.. now teams see tuck and osi doing nothing.. and they just go after jpp NO ****ING DISCIPLINE ON DEFENSE.. every cutback lane was there.. everyone wants to be the hero and no one can stay in their ****ing lanes.. limited players like blackburn did their best because they play with the basics as thats all they have.. osi and tuck and others tried to outsmart the O and jump and cut, and ended up looking like fools.. even JPP got in into the stupidity a few times.. FEWELL is to blame.. he needs to ride their asses this week.. we need discipline, not people trying to win the game on their own..This!!!

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:50 AM

LOL thanks i needed a laugh.
I would have traded him also, his constant complaining i would have never gave into. I think he is trying to rack up sack totals which look good on paper for FA next season.
Instead of making himself some more money by playing consistent and smart football, he is totally losing value more and more as the games go by. He can go dance for someone else next season.

SG88

10-01-2012, 01:53 AM

As terrible as they played, let's not have a short memory. This same thing happened last year too, Osi and especially Tuck turned it around late in the season and got their heads out of their a##.

I don't think they're physically trash, although Osi is basically not a starter in my book, he's a 3rd down pass rushing specialist at best. I believe they can turn it around though, JPP is embarrassing them every Sunday.
Tuck is a tough player that is actually trying out there. He just isn't making any impact. Osi, on the other hand, is not playing smart football and seems to be sack hungry. He seems to care less about playing the run and containing his side of the line.

BlueSanta

10-01-2012, 02:01 AM

When an opposing offense designs a play that assumes the opposing defensive end will lose contain, without actually blocking him or even touching him at all, then that DE needs to reconsider his value in this league. And perhaps, the team defense he plays for should consider further limiting his playtime.

G-MENBK

10-01-2012, 02:03 AM

Tuck is a tough player that is actually trying out there. He just isn't making any impact. Osi, on the other hand, is not playing smart football and seems to be sack hungry. He seems to care less about playing the run and containing his side of the line.

I don't even think he's going in for the sack. I think he's trying to get a sack fumble.

egyptian420

10-01-2012, 02:03 AM

When an opposing offense designs a play that assumes the opposing defensive end will lose contain, without actually blocking him or even touching him at all, then that DE needs to reconsider his value in this league. And perhaps, the team defense he plays for should consider further limiting his playtime.+1....I can't believe how often they kept specifically targeting him, I got so used to seeing him chasing people from behind like a fat cop would a criminal.

It was beyond pathetic.

GiantWarfare

10-01-2012, 02:05 AM

When an opposing offense designs a play that assumes the opposing defensive end will lose contain, without actually blocking him or even touching him at all, then that DE needs to reconsider his value in this league. And perhaps, the team defense he plays for should consider further limiting his playtime.

You have no idea how pissed I was when Osi fell for the bait so easily. Knowing Osi he probably thought "wow they're making a mistake leaving me open". Nah bro, you're open because they know you're the one gullible enough to fall for something like that.

BlueSanta

10-01-2012, 02:14 AM

You have no idea how pissed I was when Osi fell for the bait so easily. Knowing Osi he probably thought "wow they're making a mistake leaving me open". Nah bro, you're open because they know you're the one gullible enough to fall for something like that.

As much as I 100% agree there is more to it than this though.

The Eagles have targetting Osi's poor contain and gap control for the better part of 3 years now and as a team we have not adjusted. It has a lot to do with Vick being left handed. If you watched Tuck vs Panthers, he rushed without losing contain and forced Newton back to his left. For the most part, he did not let Cam roll to his right. With Vick, you have to force him to this right, and you absolutely cannot lose contain on the right side of the defense(Vick's left.) This is the book on Vick. If you watch teams that succeed vs the Eagles, this is how they do it. They simply do not let Vick roll to his left. With Osi on the field , I do not know how we can accomplish this consistently.

Overdrive92

10-01-2012, 02:16 AM

He's still on the team? I thought that was Usher out there wearing number 72. Dude sure can dance well

Usher ain't no ballerina though.

Harooni

10-01-2012, 02:17 AM

+1....I can't believe how often they kept specifically targeting him, I got so used to seeing him chasing people from behind like a fat cop would a criminal.

It was beyond pathetic.
i think he got way too much play time this week. 3rd down and here and there would be it.

rEaS

10-01-2012, 03:55 AM

hopefully.. i need to see ojomo and/or tracy out there.. and osi just on 3rd and longs.. not sure about tracy, but ojomo looked good against the run too