CODE GEASS R2 – 22

As the new emperor, Lelouch enacts sweeping changes to the way Britannian society works by abolishing the nobility system, breaking up the conglomerates, and liberating the Numbers. The opinion of him within the Black Knights is mixed, and many in the leadership such as Toudou and Xingke are still suspicious of his motives. What they don’t know is that Lelouch has used his Geass to create a small army of people to serve as his slaves, and he’s having Jeremiah handle the uprisings by former nobility. Lelouch feels that these former nobility need to understand the foolishness of clinging to their pedigree and to the glory of the past. During this time, back at Ashford, Milly is considering returning to the Britannian mainland now that Area 11 has become Japan again, and Nina is hiding out there because she’s being targeted by various countries for creating the FLEIJA weapon.

Suzaku meanwhile has been impressed with what Lelouch has been able to accomplish since ascending to the throne, and Lelouch explains that there’s still much blood to be spilt as he plans to erase the name of the murder princess from people’s memories. He feels that they’ve lost too much, and in order to face the future, they have to conquer the world first as part of something he calls the Zero Requiem. There is also the problem of Schneizel, and Lelouch plans to advance his plan before his brother can act. An even more immediate concern pops up when Bismarck leads three other Knight of Rounds – Dorothea, Monica, and Gino – in an assault on Pendragon. Suzaku meets them in battle with the Lancelot Albion, and after quickly taking out the two women, he tries to convince Gino that he’s on the wrong side, leaving Gino wondering what he should be fighting for.

Suzaku’s subsequent fight with Bismarck is broadcast throughout the world, and he feels that for the sake of the Zero Requiem, he cannot lose. He is able to use the “live” Geass effect that Lelouch put on him to counter Bismarck’s Geass power of being able to read into the future, and the Lancelot ends up slicing the Galahad in half. Afterwards, Lelouch closes out the worldwide broadcast by using the battle to reinforce his position as the ruler of Britannia, and he surprises everyone by announcing that Britannia will be participating in the United Federation of Nations. He promises to follow their rules for the negotiations, however he stipulates that it takes place in neutral Japan – specifically, Ashford Academy. A few days later, Lelouch arrives there to a large crowd, among which is Rivalz who climbs the fence in order to try to find out why Lelouch never told him about anything. Rivalz gets pulled down by the guards, and Lelouch ignores him.

Lelouch is met at the front of Ashford by Kallen who is representing the Black Knights, and although he addresses her as if they’re meeting for the first time, he also asks to take a detour to get to the negotiation room. As she leads him around, Kallen thanks him because she would have died in the Shinjuku Ghetto if not for him, and she was honored that Zero needed her. But now that he’s joined with Suzaku, she questions what he’s after or if this is all a game to him. When she asks him what he thinks of her and why he told her back on the Ikaruga that she had to live on, he doesn’t answer her, so she kisses him and then bids him farewell. Lelouch says goodbye to her as well before proceeding on to the negotiations which are being led by Kaguya. These negotiations take place with Lelouch put inside an enclosure as a countermeasure against his Geass ability, and Kaguya, Toudou, Ougi, and Xingke question what his goal is.

They know that resolutions inside the United Federation of Nations are determined by majority vote, and voting is proportional to the population of each country. With the breakup of the Chinese Federation, Britannia now has the world’s largest population, and that would give Lelouch the majority vote if Britannia joined the United Federation of Nations. They figure that this is how he intends to take over, and to prevent that, they offer him the option of either breaking Britannia up or accepting that the ratio of votes to Britannian population be lowered to 20%. Lelouch responds by asking Kaguya what qualifies someone to rule the world. Her answer is pride, and although Lelouch thinks that this is a good one, he has a different opinion: the readiness to destroy the world and oneself. As if on cue, Suzaku suddenly crashes the negotiations in the Lancelot, and the Britannian forces start advancing towards Japan.

This leaves the Black Knights no choice but to conclude that Lelouch wants a dictatorship and is their enemy. Kallen insists on defeating Lelouch, but Xingke tells her to retreat because fighting would claim the lives of each country’s delegation, and he knows that they have to wait for each country’s decision in this or else the United Federation of Nations would collapse. With his men having secured the negotiation room, Lelouch calls for Kaguya to resume the vote to decide whether or not Britannia is accepted. Meanwhile, Rivalz is giving a ride through the city to Nina who is carrying a package, and though Nina doesn’t want to get Rivalz involved, he feels that he can’t leave her alone. They are stopped at a roadblock by a group of Geass’d civilians accompanied by Lloyd. At around this same time, Lelouch gets word that a VIP has been secured, but Suzaku then reports that he’s getting an urgent message from the Avalon.

As it turns out, the imperial capital of Pendragon has been annihilated by what appears to be a FLEIJA blast, and there’s now a giant sky fortress floating above it. Lelouch had known that this was coming and that the FLEIJA weapons were installed on the aerial fortress Damocles, and these events cause him to leave the negotiations. This is all the doing of Schneizel, and he soon contacts Lelouch to ask if it feels good to subjugate others. He doesn’t acknowledge Lelouch as emperor, but instead of saying that he’s personally more suitable, Schneizel presents someone else who he claims is: Nunnally. This shocks Suzaku and Lelouch, and Nunnally proceeds to declare herself the enemy of both of them.

Preview

Well Nunnally reappearing and declaring herself to be Lelouch and Suzaku’s enemy was a nice cliffhanger even if it wasn’t too big a surprise. I’m actually a little bit disappointed that she didn’t give the end of the episode a little extra oomph by opening her eyes or something. Maybe that’ll require a visit from Jeremiah, assuming it ever happens. The bigger issue is that Schneizel has reappeared in what seems to be the villain role, but I still don’t see him to be as significant an antagonist as his father was – the aerial fortress doesn’t make him much more menacing. He’d have to have some grandiose plan that tops even Charles’, and so far that hasn’t materialized. As far as I can tell, he doesn’t care about slaying the Gods or whatever – all he wants to do is have Nunnally rule the world while he pulls all the strings – so it feels a little anticlimactic.

Aside from the end, the other thing that got a big reaction out of me was the rather one-sided fight between Suzaku and Bismarck’s group. They had added a new Knight of Rounds (Dorothea Ernst) to the official website a week or two ago, so I had been waiting for her to appear. Imagine my amusement when they killed her off within ten seconds of showing her. Along with Monica, I think part of the problem here is that having a dozen Knight of Rounds gives too many characters to deal with in addition to an already huge cast, so we get some characters who barely make an appearance before biting the dust. It’s also more evidence – as if it was really needed – that the Lancelot is Strike Freedom level overpowered.

As for Kallen, the preview from last week made me think that there could be a LelouchXKallen end, but the kiss and goodbyes this episode throws things up in the air again. I want to say that the two of them being apart like this only makes it more likely that they’ll end up together – especially if C.C. ultimately gets her wish to die – but it looks like Kallen is with Gino in the preview for next week (as well as a Knightmare I don’t recognizeedit: I’ve been told it’s the Tristan Twin and is in the OP), and there’s already been some development in that direction. Less of a question is Nina who already appears to be on the road to redemption/normalcy (it’s so weird not seeing her freak out all the time) and perhaps a relationship with Rivalz – that is, unless Lloyd and/or Lelouch have some other plans for her. A lot can happen in the final three episodes…

one more thing I’d like to bring up is that Lloyd has signed on. Thus far, he has (for the most part) been like a wiseman of sorts, and I do believe Lelouch filled him in on his plans when they were all riding horses.

@Turbo
I have no idea how V.V. teleported them. Presumably it was one of his Geass-related powers or he used the thought elevator something. I think that one of the interviews with the director or one of his commentaries on one of the DVD’s stated that V.V. was the one that teleported them, but I haven’t heard that commentary or read that interview yet, so I don’t know if any other details were given. However, V.V. did confirm to Lelouch back in episode 14 of R2 that he was the one that teleported them, so we definitely know that he did it as opposed to it being something that the director “supposedly said.”

Regardless, V.V. was working with Charles, not Schneizel, so I find it hard to believe that he knew anything about how it worked, let alone how to duplicate it. Besides, if you’re looking for how Nunnally survived, we don’t need FLEIJA to teleport or do anything other than destroy stuff. If you’ll recall, the last time that we saw Nunnally’s escape craft, it was on the ground with Rolo near it. We later see Rolo in the air in a knightmare (supposedly clearing the way so that the escape craft could take off). We have no idea where the craft was after we saw it on the ground with Rolo. It could have had plenty of time to take off before FLEIJA went off. It was obviously close to the blast since the pink light was shining on them quite brightly, but they could easily have been flying away when FLEIJA went off. There are also those that think that Nunnally was in a separate craft from Ms. Romeyer (though how that matters, I don’t know – other than that means the Ms. Romeyer is probably dead – since Nunnally’s craft was still close to the blast since the pink light was shining on her and she’d still have to be flying away at the last minute).

In any case, there’s no need to bring telportation into the equation. It’s possible that FLEIJA has something to do with telportation but Nina was obviously trying to kill Zero with it – not teleport him – and I don’t think that Nina would be freaking out about killing people if FLEIJA was mean to teleport them. And since she’s the one who designed it, you’d expect her to know how it works and what it does.

If Milly really liked Lelouch as more than a friend, than it must be after her memories were altered. I mean they are cousins after all. I rewatched season 1 last week, and the part in which kid lelouch storms towards the emperor the nobles are saying things like “He looks good for just losing his mother”; “His sister is blind and crippled, they are ruined.”; “The Ashford family is ruined”

So that must mean that Lelouch’s mom’s maiden name was Ashford, making Milly and Lelouch cousins. Which makes sense why the Ashford Academy would go to great lengths to keep the secret of Lelouch’s lineage.

I will be watching Gundam 00 after this also, but I’m kinda sad this series will end. Maybe they will have another Code Geass series?? I mean they do call it Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, not just Code Geass. I mean they can do lots of things with story lines if they don’t kill off CC when this series ends. Just a silly theory, but it wouldn’t be the same, I love how Lelouch gets out of the situations with his intellect, than the mech action! ><

@Grimjaww
The Ashfords made knightmares. Marianne was working closely with them. With her gone, their new knightmare design – the Ganymede – wasn’t used. That combined with the fact that Milly’s grandfather spent too much money on parties meant that they went out of business. I don’t think that the Ashfords are actually related to Marianne. Some people have been saying for ages that they are, but whenever anyone questions them on it, they can never come up with anything that actually says that they are. Certainly, I’ve never been able to find anything. Some of the additional materials – such as the picture dramas – shed some light on the matter (hence how I know that the Ashfords worked with Marianne to create the Ganymede and that they went broke because Milly’s grandfather spent too much money on parties), but nothing that I’ve ever run into has stated that Marianne and the Ashfords are actually related.

Now, how interested Milly has been in Lelouch and how long is not at all clear just the same. The first real indication was episode 12 of R2 when they had the cupid day stuff. With the way that she acts around him, I could totally believe that she liked him, but she knew that Shirley liked him and was always trying to get them together, so she never went after him – regardless of whether she liked him or not. I doubt that we’ll ever know how much Milly likes Lelouch. Still, I don’t think that they’re actually related, so there’s nothing wrong with it from that standpoint.

How come Code Geass’s turn of events always surprise me each week? People are saying season 1 is better but R2 is no doubt superior. So Nunally is still alive. What a sucker punch LOL

I can’t believe they’re just going to end KallenxLelouch like that. And to think I’ve liked them since season 1. But I guess it’s the best way to part because she’ll more likely end up like Shirley if Lelouch entertains her, and it shows that he cares for her too by pushing her away. It’s really just C.C. that can stay by Lulu. ^_^ I just want Kallen to end up with someone. I don’t know when it started, but Gino suddenly looked like a strong candidate. The way they pair people in this show is so random. WTF at RivalzxNina.

Hopefully reagarding the romance side of things you can tell who ends up with who based on how far up the character ranking (how important they are and how much me know about them!) they are! For instance i dont think Gino will end up with kallen i think he will end up dead i also think suzaku will be single indefinately and that Kallen will end up with lelouch purely because C.C. wishes havent changed!!! having seal herself off again and loose her memory would be pointless and a comparitively weak plot-path compared to what weve got so far!! Also i really dont want battle up until the last episode!! i want thier to be some kind of after story otherwise it makes it all seem a bit pointless if we dont see how any of them achieved thier goals! Atr a stretch lelouch will end up with C.C or kallen but no one else and Kaguya will prob get gin or somthing i dont care they not important!!!!!

Personally, I’d kind of like to know how the various characters in Code Geass would react if they knew everything that we know. If they had effectively seen the TV show and therefore knew as much about Lelouch, Suzaku, Schneizel, etc. as we do – especially why they’re doing what they’re doing – how would they act differently? I think that some – such as Kallen – would side with Lelouch. I mean, a lot of them are against him because they don’t know what he’s really trying to do. Of course, his most recent actions might convince them not side with him anyway (after all, not even we know quite what Lelouch is up to at this point. We just know what he’s been up to before and why. We’re almost as in the dark about his current actions as the other characters are).

Now, recent events aside, I think that there are characters who would be against Lelouch regardless. He has done some nasty stuff after all. Still, I think that a lot more characters would be behind him if they really knew what he was up to and what he’s about. Of course, I don’t think that he really stands any chance of explaining all that to them. He’s manipulated people too much for the to trust him at this point. It’s going to take some convincing for even Kallen to side with him right now. My guess is that the OotBK are either going to side with Schneizel or be a third side in the conflict. Schneizel at least seems nicer than Lelouch and he’s supposedly trying to put Nunnally of all people on the throne. PR-wise, Schneizel looks way better than Lelouch right now. About Schneizel’s only negative bit of PR right now is that he has lots of FLEIJA’s and is prepared to use them (and they seem to be blaming Nina for FLEIJA, not Schneizel). And if he’s going to use them against someone who’s as evil as Lelouch supposedly is, then maybe he doesn’t look so bad. After all, Xing-ke said that Lelouch was now the enemy of the world.

In any case, I think that it would be interesting to see how the various characters would react to Lelouch and whether or not they’d side with him if they really knew what he was up to and why he’s doing what he’s doing. Of course, that isn’t going to happen – certainly not for most characters anyway – but it would be interesting to see nonetheless.

I believe (hope) that at least a handfull of the people, that where the closest to Lelouch, will get to know what the reasons behind his actions were. I’m not certain Lelouch will have a tragic ending, but he and Suzaku will certainly leave the world stage after all this.

So I to hope that we get to see how certain persons would have reacted if they had known more of his plans, or come to some sort of understanding after they know the real reasons behind his actions. Maybe that will happen in the last episode, but I honestly don’t see Lelouch explaining it to them. That just doesn’t fit his character. But maybe Jeremiah or even Loyd will explain some of his true intentions to Nunnaly, Milly etc.

For Suzaku and Lelouch to die would seem somewhat cruel to me, but I do see them dissapearing at the end, without anyone really knowing if they survived or not. A completely happy ending just doesn’t seem realistic to me, at this point. But then again, there are still three episodes left and we know the writers like to turn things around in mere seconds.

@JordiBlau
I expect that Kallen will get to find out more by the end and that perhaps Kaguya and some of the other leaders of the OotBK will find out as well, but no, he’s not likely to explain it to them. And the summaries for the remaining episodes sure make it seem like we’re going to have just about non-stop action right up to the end, so I don’t think that there’s going to be much time for anyone to find out (especially if they’re not actually following him right now).

Given what Lelouch has been up to and how he seems to be trying to make himself seem evil, I don’t think that he expects to survive this. So, hopefully whatever his plans to improve the world are (beyond taking out Schneizel), hopefully they don’t need him. In either case, since he’s setting himself to take the fall on some level (and on top of that he’s the 99th emperor – one short of 100), I expect that he won’t be emperor in the end. He’s likely to either die or disappear. Hopefully the latter.

I’m thinking that if they found out what Lelouch knows, which I guess only CC at this point would tell others, then they would see through his plan and join him. The way CC appears makes me suspect she would…

I’m guessing Lelouch was planning on becoming the entire world’s enemy, while destroying Schneizel, and set himself up for a fall with Suzaku. Kinda like how Gundam 00 ended up… Though this doesn’t explain what will happen for Britannia.
All this is just my random guessing though LoL.

I wonder how Lelouch’s plan would change with Nunally being on Schneizel’s side.

Well Schneizel just pulled off an excellent move, he’s keeping Lelouch in check by using Nunnaly just as Charles did, but I’m sure he factored into his plans that the BK’s would fight him still. Still not sure what his plan is completely, but I guess we will find out next week.

Just as long as it doesnt end like Gundam wing Endless Waltz ended with Lelouch dissappearing into the middle distance i dont care i mean COMON! who fights that hard for themselves and for others just to disappear into complete misery and nothingness and from a creative standpoint endings like that are a total NON-event, REALLY ANNOYING!!!

@WingZero zxt
Well, I think that it could work out for him to disappear with a select few friends. For instance, if he were to end up with one of the girls (be it C.C. or Kallen) and he disappeared to live a quiet life with them and perhaps Suzaku (and maybe even Nunnally if she disappears from the world stage as well – though I half expect her to be Empress at the end), then that might be okay. At least he wouldn’t be alone.

Also, Lelouch will have almost certainly made himself out to be a villain on the world stage. Heero did the opposite. Lelouch’s actions ever since he stopped being Zero (especially this last episode) have been such that it’s unlikely that he’ll be well thought of by the public at large. He may have been trying to improve the world, but he’s doing it in a manner that makes him look bad and that choice almost certainly dooms him to be unrecognized for the good things that he did for the most part.

At this point, I expect that either Lelouch will die (hopefully not) or that he’ll disappear. If he had taken a path where the OotBK and the UFN loved what he was up to and trusted him, then it might have turned out otherwise, but I find it hard to believe that we’re going to have “Emperor Lelouch” when this season ends.

Well, the main problem with other characters knowing what Lelouch and Suzaku are doing is that it apparently involves something that is so dangerous, that Lelouch and Suzaku are delibrately distancing themselves from everyone they care about except those few they absolutly need to succeed (C.C., Lloyd, Cecile and Nina). It’s the reason he’s being such a DB and pushing everyone else away (especially Kallen). I think that Kallen and Gino will at least get some idea that Lelouch and Suzaku aren’t the types to turn the world into a dictatorship, although they probably won’t figure out the whole thing until after the fact.

If the Code Geass will end with this season, in the last episode we maybe see Nunnaly as 100th (empress?), as good ending. And Lelouch, actual emperor would give her the crown by himself, as “crowning” his dream which was living and fighting for.

I don’t know if something like this was already mentioned, but myself I think that would be also a good ending to see this:
After all the mess, Lelouch gets the world finally quiet and peaceful (as he wished for his sister), and before leaving the scene (by a finale death he wanted himself to seal all), he casts his Geass to Nunnaly (he never geassed her before as I remember) imposing her to can SEE and can WALK happily throught this world.
He smiles at her, then turns the head to the other side (he might be layed on the ground) and looks into the eyes of the woman near him, who is C.C.
Lelouch’s Geass gets sealed, and just after also the green haired’s gets too (with probably every other Geass in circulation, closing the circle).
C.C of course knows that she’s embracing the death together with Lelouch (for the reason that if he gives the last breath she has too, due the thing we know about their “contract”).
Lelouch says something and calls her by her real name (which we can finally ear too!)and she SMILES at him WHILE DYING (this is another particular which brings us back to episode 15 of R2). She is according to that end he chosen, probably because of the new feelings which she never experienced by the other people in the past(who has just used her as toy), but has got from Lelouch throught the whole story. (Maybe his last words and thoughts at the final episode are all truth and she realizes it… …)
They die and from their closed eyes come down two tears (which sound as the drops in the cave we have seen and heard in the first season, in the episode when Lelouch finds out C.C.’s name). After that, they sway together away, in a mix of colors and stuff etc…and throught their “travel” to the “unknown”, will be showed the whole real story of C.C and Geass. End.

And if, cause of Geass things or whateaver…Schneizel and Lelouch end the whole battle with a chess challenge? With themselves at role of “Kings”, and the other pieces represent the lives of some of the remainig main characters? For example Cornelia as one the two “Queens”, Suzaku and Kallen (maybe?)as two of the 4 “Knights” etc etc… Haha who knows.

And these were my 2 cents. Sorry for the bad english! Now I’m going to wait these 3 last episodes, lets see what will happen!! :)

wtf? okay this anime is sucking right now…..I’ll still give it another chance though. Well if the next episode is still bad I won’t watch this crap anymore. Seriously, this was like my most favorite anime, but now what happened? Like the story changed it contradicts the other episodes now. I don’t know it’s not what I was expecting. I was expecting more. Oh well I’ll still give it a chance.

@32 Seriously!!! its not hard try to keep up
and some of what endless actualy said didnt make any sense!
Greatest Anime of All time!!! (Gundam 00 wont hold a candle to this!, after all whilst good! its JUST gundam!)

Actually from what I can tell a lot of people seem to be having trouble following the show. Whether that’s self-inflicted I’m still not sure, but a lot of people seem really confused as to what’s going on. I’m fine though because I’ve been paying attention to every story detail, but maybe not so for others.

This anime is pretty simple to follow after watching Death Note I’m used to having to use my brain now while watching anime : P

Well it makes sense that Lelouch will go down with only Suzaku, that is why he did not respond to Kallen. Suzaku and him have already stained themselves and are ready to be disgraced, they have lost everything except CC and Kallen (not suzaku’s case). Although it would be ironic if Suzaku dies to Kallen in a fight, but I doubt they would end his life so easily.

“The world is born from Zero. The moment Zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 10, 10 becomes 100. Taking it all back to 1 solves nothing. So long as Zero remains it will eventually grow back to 100 again. And so are goal was to erase Zero and to send Zero back to nothing”.

That should be Lelouch’s requiem of Zero, a direct line from Big Boss himself. LOLS

@cottage
I don’t think that any of us understand exactly what Lelouch is up to. We just haven’t been given enough information. However, as far as the UFN votes go, if they vote for Britannia to become a member of the UFN, then he ends up controlling the UFN. The reason for this is that decisions in the UFN are made by voting and the number of votes that each country has is based on their population. Britannia has a enough more people than all of the other UFN countries combined that it would win every vote. As such, Lelouch could make all of the decisions for the UFN. He would be control of it. If he’s not in control of it, they might decide to side with Schneizel against him.

It’s obvious he wants to keep them from joining Schneizel, but that’s not all there is to it. He could have just chosen to take a 20% interest in the voting proces, which would have meant that he hadn’t angered the rest of the world.

Yet he didn’t do this, and chose to keep all his voting rights.. We know his ultimate goal isn’t dictatorship, so he doesn’t care about the power he gets. In my opinion he wants to show them something with this action. Maybe that the system is flawed, his actions prove this as he would take control of the entire system through a democratic and actual legal way. (I admit he forces it know)…

But my point is, that lelouch has been going on about the fact that he wants everyone to be equal and kind to each other. It’s the basis of his geass.. By just joining nothing will change as every separate country has more or less power based on its inhabitants. Which means there’s no equal, the bigger countries will decide for and dictate the smaller ones. Thus as long as this democratic system is used, nothing will change. He’s probably aiming for a united world and he’s looking for a way to create it fast. How this fits with his plan to become evil itself, I don’t know..

@JordiBlau
You bring up an interesting point, but I don’t think that I agree. Lelouch wants control of the UFN – absolute control. If they had simply voted to allow Britannia to become a member of the UFN, he probably wouldn’t have called in Suzaku or threatened them. He didn’t appear to be very happy that Xing-ke and company had figured out that if Britannian entered the UFN, it would win all the votes. Since they had figured it out (which really isn’t all that surprising when you think about it), he used his backup plan of threatening them in order to force them to vote him in and thus give him control. Either way, the result would be that he controlled the UFN. It would likely have been preferable for them to simply choose to let Britannia join without any extra stipulations, but since they didn’t, he forced them to vote to let him in.

I can see why Lelouch would be thinking what you suggest, but if he were really trying to show that there was a problem with the UFN’s system (which he created if you’ll recall), then he wouldn’t have been unhappy that they figured out that letting him enter the UFN gave him control of it and he probably would have called in Suzaku that much sooner. I think that he really did want control, but that he’s in so much of a hurry that he’s willing to do nasty stuff to do it. He may want to look nasty as well, but if that were his main objective of meeting with the UFN, I think that he would’ve called in Suzaku sooner and forced them earlier in the process rather than waiting for them to either vote or point out the problems that they’d have if Britannia joined.

@Sam93 Hardly that was just Bismark vision!! ON that note HOW OVER POWERED IS THE ALBION!!!!!!…etc!!! i mean forgoodness sake Bismark could see ever so slightly INTO THE FUTURE AND HE LOST!!! COMON!!!!! and WHAT THE HELL is Schniziel up to????

I agree with you that wants absolute control. but there might be reason for him to wait for their reaction. He wants to change the world, right. But for the world to change, a shift in the way people think needs to be realised. With his action he made it painfully clear, that this democracy is merely a charade, in which the most powerfull still rule.

Had he taken the countries thtough force, then those countries wouldn’t have reflected upon themselves. They would have simply blamed Lelouch for it. By taking them over through their own system, means they need to reflect on their system. So bringing in Suzaku from the start would not make them ponder about their system, motives etc.

But still he wants to change the world and for that he needs to become a dictator. As he will want to wipe out the concept of modern day democracy. And well if you don’t have the entire world, it’s impossible to destroy the ruling system, as someone is bound to continue using it. So he doesn’t settle for less votes.

But for it to work, the others need to see that it was flawed as well. Because if they don’t, it will mean that after the dissapearance of Lelouch, another dictator will rise, or the world will go back to the way it was before. Meaning nothing has changed.

Hell, I’m getting confused right now, this isn’t fun anymore.

Simply put, by waiting for their reaction he gets information. Needed to determine if they will take the right actions after he has left the stage. As we all know that he won’t stay emperor, hence that was never his intention. The complete control is needed to make the change happen, but without people criticing their own ways, the world will just go back to its old self after Lelouch dissapears. I never said he wasn’t out for complete control, I just mentioned that there is bound to be more to it.

Oh and a very simple reason for taking over the UFN at the school, he wanted Nina as quick as possible and he knew that she could only be at the school. So he staged the entire attack, just to get here first. That would be something.

@JordiBlau
I half wonder whether the main reason for the whole UFN thing was to get his hands on Nina (though you’d think that he’d have a better way if he wanted to get her quickly and easily and that’s all he wanted).

In either case, I do think that you bring up a very good point, but the two reasons that make me think that Lelouch wasn’t really thinking quite that way are that he seemed annoyed that they figured out that letting him simply join would give him the votes to be in charge and the fact that he’s the one that created the UFN in the first place, so he’s the one that came up with the rules. If he didn’t really like the rules, you’d think that he’d have come up with better ones in the first place. Of course, the rules probably work just fine as long as you don’t have a country that controls half the world.

You bring up very good points and I think that you definitely could be right, but it seems a bit off to me for the two reasons that I just mentioned.

Lelouch has got to be gay, he spent a month alone with suzaku plotting his takeover of the throne and dosen’t even react when Kallen kisses him…. L2TAKEADVANTAGEOFSITUATION. Oh and Nina hasn’t died yet, HURRY UP!

Normally, if Lelouch took C.C.’s code, then she’s going to become slave girl again. If fulfilling her true wish somehow manages to take her code from her without her losing her memories, then she won’t be slave girl again, but there’s, unfortunately, no support for such a scenario at the moment (though that doesn’t necessarily mean that it won’t happen). If as part of fulfilling C.C.’s wish, Lelouch gets her code, then he would, of course, become immortal. If he then sealed his code away, then he’d become the Lelouch we saw in episode 1 of Code Geass. He would remember nothing prior to meeting C.C. So, he’d have the majority of the world hating him without knowing why and in many ways, he’d be a very different person. In either case, C.C. X Lelouch would be doubly shot because both of them will have lost their memories. In fact, Lelouch X anyone would be shot in all likelihood because the only girl who was actively interested in him romantically as of episode 1 of R1 was Shirley and she’s not around anymore.

It’s certainly a possibility that Lelouch will take C.C.’s code and become immortal, but I’d be surprised – regardless of whether he takes it by force or manages to take it from her by fulfilling her true wish.

LOL. Oh my. I never would have expected this. Bandai did character poll on their site to determine who the most popular characters are (quite standard fair really). What’s hilarious about this one though is who won. You have to look. I won’t spoil it for you.

@Kalessin: I believe that was because of 4chan. Would have been funnier if it wasn’t forced and actually allowed to happen as a result of regular polling. Bandai’s sort of at fault for not noticing the voting abnormalities. Anyway, that was apparently the start of 4chan’s “relationship” with Code Geass which grows “lovelier” and more “involved” by the episode.

You have a point in saying that he made the rules of the UFN himself. He could have done it differently back then, if he thought it wasn’t the right system. Only thing I could put against this, is that his mind shifted just after Rolo died.

Since then he stopt relying on anyone, people that follow him now have proven to be unmovable (Jeremiah), or want to accomplish the same, Suzaku, C.C. and maybe Loyd and Cecile. It’s why he geassed his complete army, so they won’t have any change to disagree anymore. Meaning his plans work out as he wants them to. The BK have screwed up his plans in the past, because they didn’t listen to Zero exactly. He could have just geassed the UFN into doing his will, if he only wanted complete control (I mean honestly, he had every chance to do so), but yet he didn’t.. He wants them to acknowlegde him by themselves, willingly or not. Which makes me believe he doesn’t want anyone to have blind obedience, except for the unreliable parts of his plan. If you geass all the important people in world, how are they going to bring change to world?

As for the unhappy look, he looked suprised when Kaguya showed up on screen. That’s normal when something pops out of nowhere. But if you’re referring to the moment where they show a close-up of his eye. To me that’s a calculating look and not one of an unhappy face. He studies his adverseries very carefully at that point, before posing is own question and deciding his next action. Besides the moment they begin with asking him to give up his voting rights, he has the same “I can’t be bothered look”, as when Kallen kissed him.

The only time he actually shows an emotion is, when Suzaku tells him Schneizel fired Freya. It’s the only moment in the episode where he falls out of his character and off when Nunnaly shows up.

For the “Lelouch taking c.c.’s code” theory, the thing on that is that once that happens, C.C. dies, fulfilling her wish. She will not revert to “slave girl” or what not. This happened even to V.V. and to the person C.C. got her code from. She only became a slave girl because she “sealed” her code. So if she were to give her code to lelouch, that would mean her death and Lelouch’s immortality. This MAYBE a high possibility. It is kinda hard to imagine how lelouchxcc will be possible at all with these facts. =(

@Marvin
If you rewatch episode 15 and pay attention to when C.C. is talking to C.C. it looks an awful lot like he lost his memory just C.C. did when her code was sealed. He seems to think that he’s talking with his brother, making the pact to get rid of all lies and he doesn’t appear to know C.C. or who Marianne is when C.C. mentions her. It’s not 100% clear, but it definitely looks like he lost his memory when he lost his code. Also, what almost certainly killed him was the fact that he’d been injured when piloting the Siegfried and that without his immortality, he wasn’t able to survive those injuries.

As for the nun that gave C.C. her Geass, she somehow forced C.C. to take her code. Certainly, C.C. wasn’t trying to. It’s not at all clear what happened in that scene however. C.C. was injured on her chest somehow and the nun was dead. I think that the nun may have been bleeding as well, but I’d have to go back and watch it. If she was bleeding, then that’s bound to be what killed her and not losing her code. If not, then things are less clear. Certainly when V.V. lost his code, he didn’t immediately die and all that happened to C.C. when hers was sealed was that she lost her memory along with her powers. My guess is that the nun forced C.C. to kill her in addition to making her take the code rather than her dying from losing her code.

Also, it’s not at all clear that there is any connection between gaining a Geass person’s code and granting their wish. Since the wish seems to normally be to die, what they’re really asking for is for the Geass user to become strong enough to take their code and kill them. It’s not clear that fulfilling any other wish that the Geass person might have will have any affect on their code or on whether they die – even if that wish is stronger than their wish to die.

When it comes down to it, we just don’t know enough about how a Geass Code works and what it does. We know that

1. those with a code cannot die by any normal means (including beheading according to side materials) and heal extraordinarily quickly.

2. that their code can be taken by someone with a powerful enough Geass, turning that Geass user into Geass person and taking their Geass.

3. that their code can be sealed away (which appears to have the same effect as taking it from them – except for the fact that it can be unsealed – but we don’t know for sure).

4. that they can give Geasses to people.

5. They have powers of some kind that have never really been explained. They appear to be able to make someone connect with the World of C in some manner (thus making them see memories and visions and the like) and V.V., at least, was able to teleport people (though that seems primarily to have been a plot gimmick to get the 4 main characters on an island together since it’s never been used since). C.C. was able to undo the effects of the emperor’s Geass on Lelouch, but we don’t know if that was because she had given him a Geass or whether it was because it had to with memories or whether she can do it normally to anyone or really anything about it except that she did it to Lelouch. Really, we know next to nothing about their powers.

In any case, we know next to nothing about Geass people (though far more than we knew before the season started) and it looks to me like what happens when a code goes inactive (be it because the person lost it or sealed it), they lose their memories prior to gaining their Geass and they lose their Geass person powers. Wishes might have something to do with losing your code, but it’s not at all clear that it does and I certainly don’t think that taking C.C.’s code – however it’s done – will kill her. But again, we really don’t know enough to know for sure.

I’m not sure that taking her code means her death. V.V’s code was taken at a moment where he was gravely wounded.. He was still recovering when Charles took his code, so my guess is that he died from his injuries from battle and not because his code was taken.

As far as I know the writers never explained what caused V.V’s death. But I believe it wasn’t because his code was taken.

But either way, I don’t believe Lelouch will take C.C’s code, I think that she doesn’t even want to put this burden on him.

Do you realise that you just explained what probably happened between the Nun and C.C.. As you said they were both injured. What if the nun injured herself, as she wanted to die. Normally that wouldn’t have worked. But, we know C.C. wanted to live, so what if the Nun also injured C.C., which kind off forced her to take the nun’s code in order for herself to survive.

@JordiBlau
Good catch. That’s quite plausible. She could have injured herself and then C.C., forcing C.C. to take her code in order to survive – at which point the nun died from her wound since she couldn’t heal such injuries any longer.

Oh, and above, I obviously should have said “when C.C. is talking to V.V.” Otherwise, she looks schizophrenic….

Losing ones Code doesnt mean death i thought this was clear already!!! You have to loose it THEN DIE!!! if we accept that when C.C. had lost her memories she was mortal then obvccourse it all flls into place. Also if losikng your code means death it woyldnt have made any sense for there to be blood from the nun unless losing ones code meant you explode
(You guys wanna see C.C. explode?!?!? i thought not!) also logically (though unfortunately) anyone who seals or loses thier code has thier memories reset to the time they recieved thier geass LOL lelouch memories would be reset to episode 1!!! if he got a code then lost it!

@WingZero zxt
I don’t have that particular bit of side material myself (the one talking about beheading) and I don’t know where it can be found (I believe that Wikipedia mentions it but not from where the information comes from). Personally, I’d have thought that cutting off someone’s head would be a bit much to heal, but I guess that that’s not the case for a Geass person.

In either case, the main place that I’ve gotten side materials that I’ve actually been able to read, watch, or listen to myself is by purchasing the DVD’s from Bandai. The limited edition has some great stuff including some booklets with extra explanations and stuff like Sayoko’s diary, the first drama CD (in English!), and there’s approximately one Japanese commentary every two episodes. Really, I’d recommend getting the limited edition DVD’s. I think that it’s definitely worth it. Of course, they’ve only released the first 9 episodes of R1 thus far, but at least they’re releasing them faster than one DVD every two months which has been the norm in the past.

about CC wish:
“to die with a smile”
Could we imagine that is simply a way to live hidden behind the expression?
I could say ” to live as a mortal” because for an immortal, “to die”, this immortal must became mortal in process to definilty die. So we can imagine the real sense of the wish.

Ok she says that she is boring to live but… in my other opinion, “smile” could express a living with acceptance of the choice we can make to be proud of our life.
with what we know about CC past (famine, poverty, lonelyness, betrayal, cursed,…), she could wish an normal life with an normal end.

TISK TISK everyone is so desperate to find a way for C.C. o live on by twisting her words and finding hidden meaning in her actions!!! Seriously guys give up!!!! She most likely will die as to be fair shes lived a ridiculously long period of time!!! (in her late teens!!!!) and its time that she moved on! I DONT WANT IT TO HAPPEN but as things are right now it looks like Lelouch will end up taking her code from her! the other option is She end up Lelouch and Kallens maid!!! (im a strong advocate of the ‘Gino not important enough to end up with Kallen’ Belief

(Its funny if this were anything else i wouldnt give a monkeys about the romance [e.g Eureka 7 romance side annoyed me to no end!] nut code geass seems to pique my emotional curiosity in regards to television i wonder why that is????)

Nunally wont die before opening her eyes

BTW GUYS i still hate Suzaku!!! think about it! for all you GUNDAM FANS looking forward to the second half of 00 imagine if 6 episodes before the end Ali Al Sarshes had a change of heart and was all like , ‘AWW MAN if only i handn’t been obssesed with war, a psychopath and a terrorist this whole time i wish i could turn back time. DONT WORRY GUNDAM PILOTS I GOT YOUR BACK!!! its time i start redeeming myself for past wrongs…’ how long do you reckon it would be before the 00 Gundam ran him STRAIGHT through with a GN Blade!?!? not long i imagine

Also i know this has been hapening in Mech battles for a LONG…. Time but has anyone else noticed that in both battles with the Guren Seiten and the Lancelot Albion the final person they fought didnt use all thier weapons (Bradley and Bismark /not counting suzaku because that battle was neccessary for the plot!) in case your wondering what wasnt used Bradley didnt once use his pulse hardron cannons and Bismark didnt use the magical fairy attack in his sword

Also if anyone thinks that what i sed applies equally to lelouch you are wrong and pleaaaaase dont make me have to explain by mentioning it

Some people are speculating that the chance for Lelouch and Kallen has dropped.
It was interesting that Lelouch seemed to be playing a role. He pretended to have just met Kallen, but it was him who asked for a detour. Lelouch also broke character with her as they approached the club house. If Lelouch’s didn’t care about Kallen he could of just lied to her. Seems like he refuses to lie to her this time.

There was also this information with an interview with Kallen’s VA:Show Spoiler ▼

Question: About the kiss in Turn 22.
Ami: I’m also surprised by that kiss. Before this, I interpret Kallen as having no romantic feelings toward Zero or Lelouch. So I was like, “no kidding?! I’ve mistaken?!”
But the director want me to show that Kallen is anxious from not knowing Lelouch’s feelings towards her, and is seeking an answer no matter what. An idea comes to head, “if I come this far, maybe Lelouch will say something.” Without too much thinking nor noticing her feelings, she acts. When she kisses and Lelouch doesn’t respond, it’s the first time she notices, “woa, I really like this guy.” That’s what the director said.

Question: So Kallen thinks she likes Lelouch.
Ami: Maybe she didn’t realize it before because she mixed this feeling with loyality. Although she notices it now, there’s nothing she can do under that situation. She can’t just insist to go with him. It isn’t Kallen’s character to do so.

What would be the point of just now having Kallen realize she is in love? This wasn’t just the VA’s speculation. It was the director telling her the motivation of the character. You’d think the director would have a reason for putting that kind of motivation so late in the series. If nothing would come of it the motivation would be pointless.

azaa now Nunally C.C. and gino can Die muahahahaha they are no longer needed
(on a side not any Super smash Bros Bralw players out there gimmie a shout ive yet to find my equal. dare i say I am the ONLY KNIGHT OF ONE!!)

Do you have a link to that interview? In either case, what surprises me the most is that not only did the VA not think that Kallen was in love with Lelouch, but that Kallen only just realized it. I would have thought that she’d have been thinking that since the middle of season 1 – particularly when you have scenes like when she first met C.C. and was obviously annoyed that Zero was with another woman and likely confiding in her more than he was with Kallen.

Certainly, I’m not sure how much the kiss scene in this last episode really altered their relationship or moved it along or whatnot, but I thought that the fact that Lelouch either couldn’t answer her or refused to indicated that he definitely cared for her (as a close friend if nothing else) and likely didn’t want to make her feel that much more betrayed when he called Suzaku in to threaten the UFN council because he had opened up to her just before that. Also, I think that he wants to keep her out of his current plans in an effort to avoid having her go down with him. Both he and Suzaku appear to be preparing to sacrifice themselves for “Zero Requiem” and I think that he wants to avoid having his friends go down with him.

In either case, I think that the director’s statements seriously indicate that there’s going to be more character development between Lelouch and Kallen – regardless of whether they actually end up becoming a couple or not. However, given the summaries for the remaining episodes, it looks like Kallen and the OotBK will be siding with Schneizel for the time being (or at least against Lelouch) and that he probably won’t have the opportunity to do much with Kallen before the end.

However, I could totally see something happening along the lines of having Suzaku and Lelouch make it look like they die in the last episode, their actions somehow not only stopping Schneizel but resulting in the better world that Lelouch has been fighting for and having Kallen finding out that he’s alive and joining up with him then. I guess that we’ll have to wait and see though.

@Kalessin
The interview also indicates that Kallen is going to begin “thinking for herself.” This, along with the fact that she’s talking to Gino in the next episode preview, indicates to me that she may take action into her own hands. Both she and Gino are at crossroads, both confused what to do about important people in there lives. I think it’s likely that she and Gino will team up to go confront Lelouch and Suzaku about their actions. (Perhaps with help from Anya, who was shown with Schneizel’s forces, but after mentioning that someone has left them, is conspicuouly absent when Nunnally reappears.)

The director almost certainly gave her the character’s motivations primarily so that she’d be able to play the scene the way he wanted. That, in and of itself, doesn’t really mean that those motivations will come out later in the series or that we’ll ever get Kallen X Lelouch. However, I wouldn’t have thought that you’d have Kallen suddenly realizing that she really is in love with Lelouch and then have it go nowhere. If it was truly going to go nowhere, I think that it would have made more sense for he to come to the conclusion that he just doesn’t care about her and that she has to move on and have that as the primary result of that scene. Given Kallen’s actualy feelings on the matter, however, I think that we’re going to see at least one more Lelouch X Kallen moment regardless of whether they actually become a couple in the end. Certainly, at minimum, I think that it’s a sure thing that we’re going to see Kallen deliberating and tormented by what’s going on and what Lelouch is up to. I expect that her conversation with Gino will be about what a mess the current situation is and what the right thing to do is under the circumstances. I don’t think that either is entirely happy with what the side they’re on is doing.

In any case, since we’re likely to see more of Kallen trying to understand what’s going on and do what’s right, I think that that’s where we’ll see here not being blindly loyal. The man she idolizes is effectively the enemy at this point, so she can’t really be loyal to him right now, and yet given what her other friends have done against him and how poorly things are going overall, I don’t think that she’s exactly going to be happy with what the OotBK is up to either. She’s going to have to decide for herself what to do and I expect that in the end – once she has a better clue of what Lelouch is up to – she’ll end up siding with him (even if it’s after all the fighting is done). Regardless, she’s obviously past being blindly loyal to Lelouch. She doesn’t have much of a clue what he’s up to and she can’t follow him as things stand, so she’s going to be highly conflicted between her feelings for him and her loyalties to her brother and Japan.

@BLUE_MASTER
Simple. They didn’t get hit by it. The last time we saw the position of Nunnally’s escape craft, it was in the hanger, pointing out into the city, with Rolo standing nearby. When FLEIJA went off, Rolo was in a knightmare in the air, supposedly making sure that the way was clear for the escape craft to take off, but we don’t know where the escape craft was at this point. We see Nunnally and company inside the craft with the pink light from the blast shining on them, but we don’t see the actual position of the craft at that point nor do we see them actually consumed by the blast.

The escape craft could easily have been in the air, flying away when FLEIJA went off. Given how bright the pink light shone on them, they obviously cut it close, but that doesn’t mean that they were hit by it. They likely flew away at the last minute, narrowly avoiding the blast. And once they were free of it, they probably ended up fleeing to Schneizel. Certainly, that’s where the pilot would have went as long as Sayoko didn’t force him to go elsewhere and the fact that Nunnally is now with Schneizel implies that that is where the craft went. Presumably, Sayoko stayed with Nunnally to guard her, but didn’t manage to get them away before Zero was declared dead. And with Zero dead, Sayoko wouldn’t have had anyone to return Nunnally to.

In any case, Nunnally’s escape craft could easily have been flying away when the blast hit, narrowly avoiding getting disintegrated. We never actually saw either the craft or its occupants get hit by the blast and we don’t know exactly where the craft was at that point, so really, I don’t think that it’s stretching things at all for them to have survived.

@Kalessin its simple sayako was injured as we clearly see from the preview so its likely that she was either ambushed and nunally was kidnapped or the resulting shockwave from the blast somehow knocked her (but not nunally-maybe instead of nunally) unconcious and schniziel pick them both up

@WingZero zxt
More than a month has passed since FLEIJA went off – maybe close to a month and a half. The emperor had been missing for a month when Lelouch took the throne and it’s been an unknown number of days since then (less than two weeks I’d say – perhaps less than a week – but I don’t recall that they were very clear on how long it had been). In either case, it should have been long enough that whatever injuries Sayoko may have sustained while escaping with Nunnally would have healed by now. In fact, there was no evidence that the craft was in any danger other than having FLEIJA actually destroy them, so I find it rather unlikely that anyone within the craft would have been injured in the escape.

What I find most likely is that Sayoko was the one that Schneizel was talking about when he said that someone had left and that she was injured while escaping. She likely stuck with Nunnally in order to protect her and only recently left to warn Lelouch now that he’s reappeared. With Zero declared dead, there’s a good chance that she thought that Lelouch was dead and so she didn’t go looking for him before and only found out that he was alive when he declared himself emperor.

In any case, I’d be very surprised if her injuries and anything to do with FLEIJA.