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Topic Review (Newest First)

11-09-2012 09:47 AM

gkirk

Quote:

Originally Posted by bball40dtw

Ford says about 20% more room in the C-Max. It feels much larger with the seats down than the hatchback. The C-Max is a foot taller than the Focus hatch and has seats that fold down much easier. In Europe, you can get a C-Max where the back seats have 60/40 sliding adjustment and removal.

In the real world, the C-Max has about a third more room than the hatchback with seats folded. I filled our hatchback with 25 bags of mulch last summer, which was enough to make a guy with a Flex impressed. Hopefully I can get 32-33 in the C-Max next summer (I hope I don't need that much mulch).

I love the measurement units. It's amazing how much space seats themselves take up. My GF had a pt cruiser and while the car was a giant piece of turd, the rear seats were really easily removable and it gave the back tons of space.

How does the space with the seats down compare between focus hatch and cmax?

Ford says about 20% more room in the C-Max. It feels much larger with the seats down than the hatchback. The C-Max is a foot taller than the Focus hatch and has seats that fold down much easier. In Europe, you can get a C-Max where the back seats have 60/40 sliding adjustment and removal.

In the real world, the C-Max has about a third more room than the hatchback with seats folded. I filled our hatchback with 25 bags of mulch last summer, which was enough to make a guy with a Flex impressed. Hopefully I can get 32-33 in the C-Max next summer (I hope I don't need that much mulch).

11-04-2012 08:30 AM

gkirk

Quote:

Originally Posted by bball40dtw

The C-Max is a very good handling car. However, the Focus might be the best handling FWD vehicle available in the US. Because the C-Max weighs 600 lbs more and is 12" taller than the Focus hatchback, it isn't as fun to drive. It also rides softer than the Focus Titanium.

I find the Focus Titanium to be almost the ideal balance between sportiness and comfort. It does great on twisty roads and is a nearly perfect daily driver. It is fun to rev the engine, and the DCT is great for spirited driving.

I do find the interiors of the two cars to be on the same level. The C-Max is more Escape than Focus interior wise, but still similar. I miss having a real tachometer, but it is pointless in a hybrid. The best way to describe the C-Max is a cross between a Focus and Escape. It allows me to not own an SUV/CUV for at least 3-5 more years. Hopefully there is a Grand C-Max or S-Max in the US by then.

How does the space with the seats down compare between focus hatch and cmax?

11-04-2012 06:55 AM

bball40dtw

Quote:

Originally Posted by JessicaTi

Thanks bball !!!

Do you have the handling package on your Ti?

Yes.

11-03-2012 09:43 PM

JessicaTi

Thanks bball !!!

Do you have the handling package on your Ti?

11-02-2012 03:32 PM

bball40dtw

The C-Max is a very good handling car. However, the Focus might be the best handling FWD vehicle available in the US. Because the C-Max weighs 600 lbs more and is 12" taller than the Focus hatchback, it isn't as fun to drive. It also rides softer than the Focus Titanium.

I find the Focus Titanium to be almost the ideal balance between sportiness and comfort. It does great on twisty roads and is a nearly perfect daily driver. It is fun to rev the engine, and the DCT is great for spirited driving.

I do find the interiors of the two cars to be on the same level. The C-Max is more Escape than Focus interior wise, but still similar. I miss having a real tachometer, but it is pointless in a hybrid. The best way to describe the C-Max is a cross between a Focus and Escape. It allows me to not own an SUV/CUV for at least 3-5 more years. Hopefully there is a Grand C-Max or S-Max in the US by then.

11-02-2012 02:18 PM

JessicaTi

Quote:

Originally Posted by bball40dtw

Did you have any specific questions?

In 3000 words or less, please compare and contrast the Focus and C-Max expounding on the vehicular performance uniformities and differences.

Well, not completely joking. You're in a unique position since you own both a Ti and a C and can easily compare the two.

How is the handling of the C-Max compared to the Focus?

Is there anything you like on the Focus better than the C ?

Thank you!!!

11-02-2012 01:13 PM

bball40dtw

I only have one fuel consumption complaint. On cold mornings, it takes a few minutes for the battery system to comepletely fire up. The battery has the ability to recharge through driving and brake regeneration, but it can't get into full EV mode until the system is warm. This leaves a lot of electric miles on the table in Michigan. I live 1-2 miles from the freeway ramp, and I would like to be in full EV during that period.

I doubt this will be a problem with the C-Max Energi. Charging the batteries or having the car plugged in should keep the system warm.

Two other things I noticed:

1) The only scheduled maintenance under 120K miles is oil changes and filter replacements. Oil changes at 10K Miles.

2) The C-Max Energi only has oil changes at 20K miles. Even less maintenance is required. It also has a system on it that keeps oil, even if it hasn't been used in months, from sludging up.

11-02-2012 12:23 PM

PratoN

Quote:

Originally Posted by bball40dtw

I am getting 40 MPG on the freeway and around 50 MPG on surface streets. Some short trips around town have been over 50 MPG. My twelve mile commute down Woodward Ave, to Wayne State University, for grad school usually nets around 55 MPG.

So jealous!

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