hoofie wrote:Not a fair comparison. With auto insurance, you can choose not to own a vehicle, therefore, no insurance requirements. You are required to pay for health insurance simply for being alive, or be fined. You pay regardless, unless you're dead.

And the uninsured go to the emergency room and we all pay.

And who do you think is going to pay for their insurance? The Easter Bunny....NO the same people who are paying for that trip to the ER....

Not for the ones who can afford insurance. Those freeloaders will no longer be a burden on the hard-working taxpayer. Are you one of them. Is that why you oppose this? Or do you just like paying for people who are too cheap to buy insurance?

No I voted for Romney.....

I oppose a govt run health care system...Name one thing the gov't has run that is run correctly and is not going bankrupt?

The government is a not for profit enterprise, thats why the government has the power to tax.

What happened was that in 1986 Reagan decided that anyone cold go into an ER and get care not matter if they had the ability or even the intent to pay. So when the accident victim gets treated, we pay for it. If only their car is damaged in the accident, then they pay for it. If the law mandated free care for everyone was repealed, then we could have an argument about the diff in car and health insurance.

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hoofie wrote:Not a fair comparison. With auto insurance, you can choose not to own a vehicle, therefore, no insurance requirements. You are required to pay for health insurance simply for being alive, or be fined. You pay regardless, unless you're dead.

And the uninsured go to the emergency room and we all pay.

And who do you think is going to pay for their insurance? The Easter Bunny....NO the same people who are paying for that trip to the ER....

Not for the ones who can afford insurance. Those freeloaders will no longer be a burden on the hard-working taxpayer. Are you one of them. Is that why you oppose this? Or do you just like paying for people who are too cheap to buy insurance?

No I voted for Romney.....

I oppose a govt run health care system...Name one thing the gov't has run that is run correctly and is not going bankrupt?

You don't even know what you are talking about. The insurance companies, not the government are running health care. That is the main problem. The VA healthcare system is doing a great job and is not going broke. Medicare and the VA system are much more efficient than the private insurance system. The VA negotiates with drug companies and is able to keep costs down as a result. Get a clue.

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hoofie wrote:Not a fair comparison. With auto insurance, you can choose not to own a vehicle, therefore, no insurance requirements. You are required to pay for health insurance simply for being alive, or be fined. You pay regardless, unless you're dead.

And the uninsured go to the emergency room and we all pay.

And who do you think is going to pay for their insurance? The Easter Bunny....NO the same people who are paying for that trip to the ER....

Not for the ones who can afford insurance. Those freeloaders will no longer be a burden on the hard-working taxpayer. Are you one of them. Is that why you oppose this? Or do you just like paying for people who are too cheap to buy insurance?

No I voted for Romney.....

I oppose a govt run health care system...Name one thing the gov't has run that is run correctly and is not going bankrupt?

TVA (until Regan decided to privatize it)Social SecurityMedicare - well run but not fully funded soonVA healthcare USPS (until the Republicans decided several years ago to kill it)

The Republican mantra after Reagan made that ridiculous statement about the Government IS the problem, is that all the government programs are bad and ill run. That is just not true. I have worked for a large commercial bank, another large business, 2 or 3 small businesses, and no less than 3 government agencies. It is my experience that the government agencies, while yes, there is some imperfection, are far better run from the standpoint of waste, fraud , and abuse, than was the big businesses I worked for and for that matter, even the small ones. The imperfections seem amplified in the government agencies only because of the scale, but they are much better managed on average.

Now, as to Obamacare, you seem misinformed (probably because you live in the FOX bubble) that it is government run healthcare. It is not . What it is is insurance reform and I for one, am pretty tired of my medical bills going sky high because of people using the ER for their healthcare option so they won't have to pay anything. Before my Mom died, on 2 or 3 occasions she had some long waits for the ER because they were treating young people walking around talking on their cell phones with sniffles and coughs. I ask the ER desk clerk why people with flu symptoms were being treated there and not the dr's office. She told me that was because all those people were there because they didn't have insurance and didn't have to pay the ER bill. She also added that "I would be amazed if I knew who they were because most came from families that had money"I'm pretty tired of it. I think before the ER treats anyone, they should have to produce either an insurance card, or a deposit. Then, maybe, I would not support mandatory insurance.

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The Governor has pledged (Hey, Grover!) not to raise income taxes, and our breathtakingly-low property taxes are something visitors from out of state marvel at, then shake their head at when they see the state of our public schools.

Still, a single mother with a part time minimum wage job is immediately in the 9% tax bracket when she wants to buy food for her children.

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The Governor has pledged (Hey, Grover!) not to raise income taxes, and our breathtakingly-low property taxes are something visitors from out of state marvel at, then shake their head at when they see the state of our public schools.

Still, a single mother with a part time minimum wage job is immediately in the 9% tax bracket when she wants to buy food for her children.

Should we hold our breath, and stand in awe, 'till you "get it right"?

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Travis the Maniacal Chimp wrote:Well I guess in the bizzarro world of Montgomery politics this makes perfect sense. Alfa must make more on Automotive insurance than they do on healthcare.

They do. Auto insurance if far more profitable than home, or health.

Their reasoning is that not everyone drives and driving is a priviledge. So you don't have to have car insurance, just if you plan to drive.

Not quite the same as health insurance, which everyone will need healthcare at some point.

Trying to find a company that will insure your home without insuring your cars is almost imposable. And their reasoning is profit driven. Insurance companies dont give 2 shi^s about the people they insure. The local guys may have a shred of moral, but the people above them dont.