Do online casinos ever cheat players?

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karensmith

Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:23 amPosts: 2

Do online casinos ever cheat players?

By no means am I a savvy gambler both when it comes to land casinos and online casinos I'm relatively new to both and just wanted to ask one question really before I try playing at an online casino or two.

My question really revolves around whether online casinos cheat and if they do certainly some do and others don't. Is there any good way of knowing which online casinos do cheat so I can avoid those casinos and only focus on playing at legitimate online casino sites?

I'd like to play this weekend so if anyone has any recommendations then I'd be very interested in hearing some feedback on this and some ideas as to where I can play where I won't get cheated.

Thanks - Karen

Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:32 am

burleyhurley

Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:30 pmPosts: 13

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

Some online casinos may cheat players but it's not likely that its done though the online casino software that they use. Online casino software providers have their reputations to protect so I really doubt they'd ever let anything to have to do with the payouts of their casino games be compromised. I think that the more likely way that online casinos would cheat players would be by either cheating them in how bonuses work by not allowing them to cashout or simply not allowing them to cashout period.

If you play at reputable online casinos you don't really have all that much to worry about quite honestly!

Playing at casinos that use industry leading online casino software by Microgaming, Cryptologic, Playtech, Vegas Technology or other that are at the same caliber you shouldn't really have any problems!

Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:57 pm

sharonwallace

Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 12:34 pmPosts: 12

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I think that there's too much riding on internet casinos reputations that they wouldn't risk cheating players. I think that some online casinos may have the ability to alter payout percentages on games but only in conjunction with the casino software providers and in a way where it makes sense. I don't think that there's really anything to worry about if you're playing at trusted and reputable online casino sites. You just need to know where to play. Playing at Microgaming casinos and Playtech casinos I think that you're pretty safe. If you're from the US I think that playing at casinos like Golden Casino, One Club, Rushmore Cherry Red Casino, etc... is probably a good idea.

Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:13 am

karensmith

Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:23 amPosts: 2

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

Thanks everyone for the details and heads up it's very good to know and helpful to me.

I figured as much that online casinos have a lot riding on their reputations and wouldn't really risk cheating players but I just wanted to be sure!

Karen

Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:16 am

nightwookie

Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:39 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

Well, I can almost guarantee you with a hundred percent certainty that they will rig things in games like online roulette. Very easy to use scripts to control the outcome if it looks like you are becoming successful.

I have tested roulette over hundreds of hours, and can tell you this for a fact.

And this goes for the so called "reputable" online casinos also.

Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:42 am

henryduncan12

Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:11 amPosts: 24

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

No, I don't think so that online casinos cheated players, rather they help the players in gaming by providing convenient means of playing games in online casino. For others I don't know but for all slots online casino I am sure about this.

Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:53 pm

jacob1234

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:05 amPosts: 4

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

No i don't think so as there are some online casino which are safe as they have some policies & cannot cheat according to them.some of the casino which i know are safe are 32red casino,all slots casino,wild jack casino & also many more who offer safe playing online.

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:24 am

smith1234

Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:30 amPosts: 2

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

No as per my side & my view i think that online casino do not cheat.There are also various casino who offer secure paying of money.

Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:47 am

Jaccy

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:18 amPosts: 23

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

We cannot judge all of the casino by facing the bad experience in a single casino. Moreover, I feel wild jack casino is the safest casino where we all can have a blind faith.

Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:24 am

odds3to2

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:06 pmPosts: 4

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

My suggestion to you.......Do your research to find a casino. Decide what game you want to play. Learn the true odds of that game efore ever placing a wager. Then, play on the site for minimum amounts while keeping statistical records to see if they do adhere to the true odds. If so, good luck.....if not, start again somewhere else.

Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:14 pm

imtheone

Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:04 amPosts: 7

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

every online casino site have different software so you cannot compare them.. but I personally think that either don't cheat.. its gambling sometimes you lose sometimes don't thats the way it goes...

Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Jaccy

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:18 amPosts: 23

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

Hmmmmmmm....there is the possibility of this, as it depends of the particular online casino site.

Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:03 am

peterjohns

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:58 amPosts: 34

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

Yes online casino cheat players but not so much

Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:05 am

goooner

Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:28 pmPosts: 2

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

A number of people have contacted me or my website about Playtech livedealer games. They report that playing basic strategy they are losing around 3% in live dealer games which use the Playtech software, instead of the true figure of about 0.6% which the game should produce according to various sites. They take advantage of casino promotions and think they have a fair chance to make money at -0.6% (they are often offered $100 to deposit $100 with 8 times play through for example) but little chance at -3%.

I have looked at the different tables on various sites, and the complete shoe is taken away from the table, and then brought back for a "once through the pack" single shuffle. My suspicion is that the shoe is "arranged" before returning to the table - and this is the reason it is taken out of view for a short time. On one occasion I saw cards face up on an empty table in view in the main lobby, and there were about 10-12 aces on the right, all face up. Perhaps the cards were being sorted and checked, but perhaps not. That view was only there for a short time, as someone then collected the cards.

The interesting statistic from the people who contacted me was that the percentage of Blackjacks for the player overall was around 2.4%, almost exactly half the figure that it should be for 8 decks 4.7451% (32/416*128/415*2). What I think happens is that at the shuffle table the casino takes 16 of the aces and places them at the bottom. Then there is a single riffle in six sections followed by a cut, so that these 16 aces will not be in play in the new shoe. There will now be an average of 8 aces in the section that will be used in the new shoe, and not the average of 16 aces that would be expected for the (approximately) 208 cards that are used in an 8 deck game with the postilion inserted half way. I did a simulation for 8 decks with only 50% aces, and had a figure of -3.3% - no doubt you would be better than me at checking that!

I manually recorded 10 shoes and saw 83 aces, about the number I would expect in 5 shoes, so there does seem to be something suspect about the game. I was not playing, and selected a full table where I could record without having to do so.

Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:36 am

mdoz

Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:13 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

These are old postings but if i found it googling then it is still seen. I hate to report that indeed an online casino can cheat. I'm so sad because suspicious for long time there are not confirmation once a reputable online casino for whatever reason has gone rogue. After doing everything i was told to do when choosing an online site to play I chose one. After a few mths i questioned many times somethings not right. at first pacified with something and that many times took my suspicions away, Now I'm finding 99% chance they are cheating me. Not only falsifying documents but other things I found to be not right. Blacklisted on the majority of sites now a complete chg on the very sites i read & trusted he was genion i'm desperate someone will plz anser with great interest to gain knowledge before fighting them. All the resource pgs on site & i'v had issues getting. don't always believe sites.

Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:27 am

Rumi13

Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:54 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I have looked at the distinctive tables on quite a lot of sites, and the complete shoe is taken far away from the desk, after which brought again for an "as soon as by way of the p.C." single shuffle. My suspicion is that the shoe is "arranged" earlier than returning to the desk - and that is the intent it is taken out of view for a short while. On one party, I saw cards face up on an empty desk in view of the major lobby, and there were about 10-12 acres on the proper, all face-up. Perhaps the cards have been being sorted and checked, however maybe no longer. That view used to be most effective there for a short while, as anyone then accumulated the playing cards. Minimum number of men and women have contacted me or my website about Playtech reside vendor video games. To know more, you can visit our site http://www.lesacasino.se/

Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:07 am

gln888

Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:35 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I have been playing and observing several Microgaming casinos over a period of more than 1 year. I noticed that there is a limit to how much one can win at any given playing session.

In February 2014, over a period of 8 days, my initial balance out of a 100usd deposit plus bonus reached 5,200usd. I kept playing but everytime I almost lost all, it climbs back to around 5,200usd. I reached this maximum limit at least twice more before losing all. Never more than 5,200usd.

After a lull of more than six months, I tested again a different Microgaming casino than the previous one. I reached 2,900usd initially then it went down and then back again to around the same 2,900usd. Never more than 2,900usd. I withdrew it upon reaching 2,200usd.

I tried other Microgaming casinos at different times where I reached 1,200usd, 1,100usd and the latest of which I am pegged at 1,200usd as of this writing. This latest 1,200usd max I have reached already 4 times in a 3 days. It never goes beyond this max amount.

If the games are truly random, I doubt this maximum limit should be there in the first place because it is not consistent with random chances.

By the way, this maximum amount holds regardless of the slots games I played with.

I suspect the games are not truly random.

Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:51 am

DogeDigital

Joined: Sun May 24, 2015 1:23 pmPosts: 3

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I'd recommend to do some due diligence before wagering. This site serves as a pretty good reference.

There will always be complaints from those that have lost and often some will resort to claiming 'rigged'. It's your job to weed through all presented to you and come to a fair conclusion yourself. Some factors that should help a casino's case are proper licensing, time of operation, available contacts and transparency.

Sun May 24, 2015 1:44 pm

LauraKoniger

Joined: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:45 amPosts: 30

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

The point is that most online casinos don’t cheat players because they really don’t have to… just look at the odds at any casino over time and you’ll find that they make enough of a profit without having to stoop to criminal levels.

Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:05 am

dangeruss

Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:43 pmPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

for all you ivy-leaguers out there who don't believe online casinos cheat... y'all must not play but ONCE a month I'm guessing... they practically ALL cheat!!! i'll say it again, online casinos CHEAT! some definitely worse than others. if wondering why none of these casinos or at least none i know of are actually located in the US didn't strike you as being scandalous... surely the win big at first and most likely never again strategy will eventually get you. i listened to some asshole manager at bovada tell a bank manager in a fraud case that this is how they "reel them in."

I've played at every single casino you can play that take players from the USA. i was a tester at one time and also apart of an investigation which i had, let's say.... special privileges. i got cool with some chat specialist (which is a hilarious title for those idiots, should be more like used car salesman or i am sam) and some that were planning on leaving or figured their job was deceitful... anyways, they practically told me what and how they do it.... and those guys can possible only know whats on the surface. yes there are multiple scripts which can alter the games, they can put on limits, and they can change their overall payout which is the only thing the player is able to see...and let me tell you... when that percentages is low, best to get out and wait till it goes back up. during the 1000's of hours playing i got so good at blackjack i could call the outcome for almost every hand.... if players cant see that blackjack is completely unfair, then they shouldnt be playing. yes, 1 out of 7 times you might get up a little and 1 out of 30 to 50 times there's a chance you could really make out pretty good. so if you like those ods go for it...

Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:32 pm

ramos2040

Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:38 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

i am not agree with most of the ideas because if you use another person's experience then i dont think so that we need to make our mind busy for that . i think if we just find a safe website then we have done 90 percent of all secures not ?

Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:58 am

JamesC

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:05 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I cannot say all casinos are cheating but they are casino who might be cheating. If your gonna play with reputable online casino they your are safe. Cheating will just ruin their good business name and a potential lost of loyal customers.

Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:47 am

marcus_elvin

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:39 amPosts: 3

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I think some does, but I think online casinos have a good security system, so it would be hard to cheat.

Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:48 am

Deoj

Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:37 amPosts: 1

Re: Do online casinos ever cheat players?

I dont think online casino will do this to cheat to their players because they also take care of their reputation if there are it might be minimal and that might be illegal softwares.

Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:02 am

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