[Quote: "Yeah but there are hate sites of everything. I could find atheist hate sites, g*y hate sites, racism, ect...

Your posts seem to imply that you think Christians are being persecuted - and they certaintly are in some countries. But not in mine (America). Christians make up a whopping, correct me if I am wrong, 76.5% of Americans.

I don't really think the Dawkins link is a Christian hate message. His answer is pretty logical. I think it is unfair to categorize it so."]

OK, there are hate sites of everything. So that makes it OK to have hate sights of Christians?

Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot. I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot.

I have had children attending school for about 20 years. Our Christian views are not allowed in school while ALL & ANY others are not only allowed, but also taught in school. Christianity is being systematically removed from the American society that Christianity built. We are not running from lynch mobs yet, but that will come. Do you think the murderers of Christians in the Sudan just started lopping off heads one day? No, they had to spend the time to set the stage. Did Hitler wake up one day and begin killing Jews? No, it took years of preparation. The American stage is set and the preparations are made. And we, Christians, know much worse is coming, even expect it. Prophecy cannot be denied.

Having a view point or belief is one thing, but the statement that there is no evidence to oppose your view, that IS idiotic. There is tons of evidence and we keep asking you for yours, but you keep quoting the wholly babble as evidence. It is not evidence. When you get some real evidence, we will talk.

Plus, what is it with you lot and your persecution complex? Millions of people, evaluating the scientific evidence, becoming convinced that an alternative view to yours makes greater sense and having the balls to says so out loud is not the systemic removal of Christianity. It is looks remarkably like personal growth in a free society to me.

I can't even be bothered to deal with the other stuff here, it is too dumb.

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Not being persecuted in America?! I live in America and see the persecution first hand. I believe the world was created less than 10,000 years ago in seven days. Even though there is NO science to support anything else, I am deemed an idiot. I believe it is wrong to murder unborn children, and am deemed an idiot. "

Hate(n) hat;
(a) not being allowed to indoctrinate other peoples' kids with your religious beliefs.
(b) not being allowed to put religious displays on other peoples' property.
(c) not being able to tell women they can't have abortions.

Christian(n) kris'-chun;
A small cult consisting of Baptists and members of an independent fundamentalist church who hold similar beliefs. Excludes Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc.

The hate sites thing is pointing out that Christians are not being targeted specifically for persecution, pretty much every group has someone who hates them. When it is proven that there are more hate sights of Christians than any other religious, ethnic or social group, then you may have a valid point. For thetime being, however, you do not.

Being called an idiot is not persecution. I have an above-average IQ and people call me an idiot because I'm blond. This is not persecution, people are not going to start killing blond people, nor are they going to kill Christians for being Christians.

As for the school thing, you're out of it. People are allowed to pray quietly, wear cross necklaces, etc. Christians are not given higher respect than any other religion ixn public schools. This is not persecution, it is equality. As for other religions being 'taught" in school, there is a difference between learning about someone's belief system in order to better understand their culture and actively trying to convert people to that belief.

Whether you like it or not, Christians are not being persecuted in twenty-first century America.

This looks like a job for the 'persecuted/persecuted/not persecuted' picture...

But seriously, being called an idiot (for being willfully ignorant) is not the same as being persecuted. Perhaps if you actually paid attention to what your kids were being told about religion in class, you would realize that schools go out of their way to give basic information on them all and say that they're all valid. Look in a science text book- it doesn't say anything about God, or whether he exists or not. It's called neutrality.

But again, if you're going to stick your head in the ground and say you can see, you're going to be called an idiot, and that's exactly what's happening. Perhaps you should heed the lesson here.

Yes, Ive never once seen a Christian politician. All of them are Muslim or Hindu or atheist and they openly persecute Christians. Saying you are Christian is political suicide here in USA. I drove by a church the other day thats was being burnt to the ground, its members lynched on a tree outside, and a burning "atheist worl" in the church yard. Being a fellow atheist I immediately called a pimp for some underage gay prostitutes and crack rock for my fellow atheists to enjoy after their hard work in Hitlers name.

Being called an idiot for holding counter-factual beliefs with pride =/= persecution.
Being called an idiot for being completely ignorant to the evidence contrary to your position =/= persecution.
Being called an idiot for having no positive evidence for your own position in all of this=/=persecution.

Calling a spade a spade is not persecution, you obtuse fuck.

Also: citation for your claim that other "views" are "taught in school"? I assume that you are either talking about "views" with actual evidence, or are talking about "views" that students are merely taught about the existence of, rather than of their finer points and why they should be a viewpoint to subscribe to.

If the stage is set to start killing Christians, please people just get on with it so we won't have to hear about whining and bitching about their unseen persecutors for an untold number of decades beforehand.