Meh. Okay, let's just do this instead of a big award show: We'll give a thirty minute speech about how your pretentious art house flick of choice is pretentious and not actually deserving of all the knob-slobbering it's getting, give Hugo everything it's up for, let Scorsese talk however long he damn well pleases, split the Best Actress between Mara and Elizabeth Olsen for Martha Marcy May Marlene, tell all the Best Actor nominees, "PSYCH," and toss that shiat out to Andy Serkis, let everyone from The Muppets know that their award isn't actually just for the song, but for being so Goddamned awesome, then call it a night.

anfrind:I liked it because it seemed to do a good job of capturing what it would be like to actually visit that cave, and see the paintings for yourself. If that's the sort of trip that you would find boring, then I can imagine you'd be bored by the film as well.

That doesn't make it a good movie though, especially 2 hours of it. It makes it a good travel documentary for about 20 minutes.

Hey, I love Herzog, I think he's brilliant. I just didn't like this particular outing.

OooShiny:obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

Being as your time is limited due to the toddler, I'd recommend watching just the last 5 five minutes of Fassbender in Hunger. Even if you have to pay full price for just those last 5 minutes.

Gotta see that whole movie. A brilliant film. I would recommend the 20 minute conversation between Fassbender and the priest (in one take) more than the final sequence.

I have two (now) teenagers, and as a result, I have sat through most of the Harry Potter movies, and I don't understand the hate. They have a good continuity between the characters, the movies are entertaining, and they deal well with the characters getting older and developing relationships. I haven't seen a single one of these that wasn't worth the money I paid for admission. They aren't the BEST movies ever made, but they're solid, and they aren't 'Twilight'...

Pretty much what I expected. Two biggest surprises was no Tintin getting snubbed (Academy probably thinks mo-cap doesn't count as animation, although they didn't have a problem with The Polar Express) and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close nominated for Best Picture despite having only 48% Tomatoemeter rating.

DamnYankees:rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.

This. Oldman was obviously brilliant, but so were Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong (particularly), Colin Firth, John Hurt, Kathy Burke. The only one I didn't care for much was Dencik - he was still pretty good, but I really liked Bernard Hepton in that role, especially in "Smiley's People."

DamnYankees:anfrind: I liked it because it seemed to do a good job of capturing what it would be like to actually visit that cave, and see the paintings for yourself. If that's the sort of trip that you would find boring, then I can imagine you'd be bored by the film as well.

That doesn't make it a good movie though, especially 2 hours of it. It makes it a good travel documentary for about 20 minutes.

Hey, I love Herzog, I think he's brilliant. I just didn't like this particular outing.

OooShiny: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

Being as your time is limited due to the toddler, I'd recommend watching just the last 5 five minutes of Fassbender in Hunger. Even if you have to pay full price for just those last 5 minutes.

Gotta see that whole movie. A brilliant film. I would recommend the 20 minute conversation between Fassbender and the priest (in one take) more than the final sequence.

The scene with his sister singing in the restaurant is some of his best acting in the film IMHO. Great movie.

Mikey1969:rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

So that's pretty cool? It looks good, but you never know nowdays. Gary Oldman absolutely rocks. Everything he does has a completely different vibe than the role before, like Johnny Depp, but take away the lovable eccentric and add a heaping helping of crazy! IMHO, Oldman's as under-appreciated as John Turturro, people can name a bunch of his roles, and sometimes recognize roles that they didn't even know were done by him, but they can't always name him, yet he's a genius.

I don't think that's right. Maybe I'm splkitting hairs, but I don't see her name listed. I think those guys were the producers. She got a 'writer' credit on that movie because it was based on 'her' book. Even if it were to win (which won't happen)_, I don't think Palin will have the trophy.

Besides, "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" was really good. I didn't see the other nominees, but The Undefeated should lose (be defeated by, lol!) to that one at least.

Pixar's run of Animated Feature Oscars is coming to an end. This will be the fifth time Pixar will not win the category, and the first time since 2006. The other four years that they lost:

-2001, the first year of the category, with Monsters, Inc. losing. (Shrek won)-2002, when they had no eligible film. (Spirited Away won)-2005, when they had no eligible film. (Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit won)-2006, with Cars losing. (Happy Feet won)

They're 6-3 when it comes to winning the category and 8-1 when it comes to getting nominated. If you eliminated the Cars movies, they're 6-1 when it comes to winning and 7-0 in getting nominated.

Mikey1969:beta_plus: /after both The Bourne Ultimatum and The Dark Knight got snubbed, realized that the academy does not believe entertaining the audience is a necessary or even worthy goal to make a movie deserving of praise

Really, 'The Bourne Ultimatum'? Sure, the first one was cool, but after that, you're just rehashing the same crap over and over. I saw nothing original in the sequel. Dark Knight, on the other hand WAS good, even with the 'Let's all moon over poor Heath' stuff barraging us 24/7. It WAS an inspired role, and made the movie.

The Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatum were the best and most original action films made since Die Hard. Ultimatum was a deliberate attempt to match the French Connection and it succeeded brilliantly. Sorry, but I disagree with your assessment.

RussianPooper:"The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.

Ahh, I was thrown off by this page (new window). IMDB even listed a nomination for "Undefeated" on the "The Undefeated" page. I saw the names on that page and saw they were the same as in TFA and figured it was legit.

I don't think that's right. Maybe I'm splkitting hairs, but I don't see her name listed. I think those guys were the producers. She got a 'writer' credit on that movie because it was based on 'her' book. Even if it were to win (which won't happen)_, I don't think Palin will have the trophy.

Besides, "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" was really good. I didn't see the other nominees, but The Undefeated should lose (be defeated by, lol!) to that one at least.

I wasn't sure whether to snark you for not reading the thread or for actually thinking that the academy would nominate Palin for anything. But since you showed a fair amount of disdain for her shenanigans I'll just give you a "Good Day, Sir".

/CSB I remember watching the original HBO Documentary about the West Memphis 3 as a kid and at the time I thought they were being railroaded for looking alternative and goth.

olddinosaur:I can't believe Andy Serkus was not nominated for the lead role in Rise of Planet Of The Apes.

It is one of the best pictures I have ever seen, and one of the few cases where a sequel was better than the original.

\\\ No justice.

Now, I didn't think the first Planet of the Apes was the train wreck a lot of people claim. I think they secretly enjoyed it and just started bashing it because it became trendy...

'Rise' though, was amazing. The movie absolutely rocked, one of the best things I saw all year, and Serkis should DEFINITELY have gotten a nomination. I feel that's a definite snub. Maybe it's because he fits into a whole new category? He's more than 'just' an actor in that role when he carries the amount of emotion into something that then gets a computer overlay and translates his emotion into the CGI.

Of course, they create a special category, and the 'Let's CG EVERYTHING' vibe will start up again...

beta_plus:The Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatum were the best and most original action films made since Die Hard. Ultimatum was a deliberate attempt to match the French Connection and it succeeded brilliantly. Sorry, but I disagree with your assessment.

Fair enough. I found it to be a snooze-fest rerun, but like I said, I liked the first one a lot.

I don't give a lot of credence to reviewers, nor to Rotten Tomatoes, which is funny, since Tomatoes is viewer driven, and I usually take viewer experience as my keystone... I just think Tomatoes is a bunch of biatchy folks who don't like anything, or they absolutely LOVE some of the most irritating tripe out there. From the trailer I saw, this looks like a petty good movie, but the majority of the trailers out there aren't all that good.

rynthetyn:I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

I was impressed by everyone in that movie. Now I can't wait for the DVD to come out so I can give it a few more views. Although the French pop music at the very end was very wtf, I thought something had gone wrong in the theater and they were scrolling the ending credits music before the movie had ended.

/and now I need to go buy all of the books from the series because that was amazingly more interesting than I thought it was going to be

As someone who enjoys acting/writing/tech, there are a few things that always drove me nuts about these award shows:

1) The fact that the writing award gets completely over looked. Pretty sure there would be no movie without the script. I'm sick and tired of people praising actors and directors, when the bulk of praise belongs to the person who made the movie possible. Don't even get me started when someone quotes a movie and attributes it to the farking actor that said the line.

2) The fact that the farking producers accept the award for best movie. Because out of everyone that made the movie what it was, the farking producers deserve the award.

3) The fact that the technical awards aren't shown on TV. Because who cares if we don't have cameramen. That's not important to the movie business.

And lastly why are we giving awards to the people who essentially fake playing real people. How about we skip all the bs, and praise and give the people they are supposed to represent 20 million dollars to do there jobs. How many actors have played teachers, cops, soldiers, activists, and scientist and have been given incredible praise and millions of dollars. I think this country would be in a much better position if the above jobs, were given the same money and praise as the people faking them.

I was impressed by everyone in that movie. Now I can't wait for the DVD to come out so I can give it a few more views. Although the French pop music at the very end was very wtf, I thought something had gone wrong in the theater and they were scrolling the ending credits music before the movie had ended.

/and now I need to go buy all of the books from the series because that was amazingly more interesting than I thought it was going to be

The movie, although ridiculously awesome and filled with great performances, is just a shade of the earth-shattering awesomeness of the books. "Tinker Tailor" is most-definitely a masterpiece. "The Honourable Schoolboy" does slog quite a bit in the middle, and could be considered an extended and polished remake of "The Spy who came in from the cold", but it's worth it just to setup the ball-tightening "Smiley's People".In regards with the movie, Oldman easily beats Alec Guiness in the Smiley portrayal, my only wish would be that he had the runtime of the original mini-series.