Yes, the police need to have more (and more specific) regulation, and stricter enforcement of a more ethical code of conduct.

Were you trying to make a point?

Maybe he also hooks up jumper cables to people who say they need more energy, then goes home and laughs because he thinks that makes him clever and superior. They didn't even know what they were asking for, amirite?

Yes, the police need to have more (and more specific) regulation, and stricter enforcement of a more ethical code of conduct.

Were you trying to make a point?

Who enforces this code of conduct? Who makes sure that the right code is put in place to begin with?

Yeah, it's hard, so let's just not do it. Because the alternative - what, unregulated police? no police? - is so much more appealing..._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. Iíll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

Don't put them on paid leave when they beat someone to death on camera, charge them! Kick their ass out the door! For the love of god don't keep them around the precinct, you'll just erode what little faith the public has left in the police.

Legislate in minimum sentencing for cops caught committing crimes while on duty under the badge!

Cameras in every cop car, no exceptions!

Force cops to carry an always-on audio recorder on their belt while on duty!

Fire people for discrimination, don't let it slide with a slap on the wrist!

Until police departments and government start taking serious steps towards police accountability, the public is going to remain suspicious of cops, those demi-gods of the streets who seem to be able to get off with a slap on the wrist for shit that'd get anyone else a 5-year sentence minimum.

A local cop ran a stop sign in my home town, and struck and killed a teenager on a motorcycle. He failed a breathalyzer test. His excuse? He wasn't drinking and driving, he went home after the accident, drank some vodka, then came back to the scene. He got a month of house arrest and 11 months of supervision for it. This same cop had previously been involved in an incident that resulted in a man getting tasered to death that Vancouver Airport and was also undergoing perjury charges in relation to that case.

A month of house arrest on a bullshit excuse, but he's a cop so surprise, of course he's not accountable for his own actions. He's stressed! He's served the community for years! yeah, fuck that. Fuck everything about that._________________Hangman, hangman, hold it a little while, I think I see my brother coming, riding many a mile.

Libertarianism =/= "There'd be no government at all." That's actually anarchy.

I bet some might argue that Libertarians espouse a sort of anarchist-esque -- from a certain light they can seem to have attributes of anarchists. I would say, though, that this interpretations is equivalent to people who think doctors and serial killers are the same psychologically, if that analogy makes sense -- it only works in a very narrow context from a very specific perspective, a 'philosophical optical illusion' if you will._________________...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.http://about.me/omardrake

well, there's been tons of schisms in libertarianism and by now you have conservative libertarians and reform libertarians and orthodox libertarians and then you have the hasidic libertarians and the kabbalah

wait, that's something else, but the principle is pretty much the same - the personal label of libertarianism generally now means a great degree of different things to different people, even when the movement is essentially underpinned by some pretty hardcore anals who have very specific and rigid notions about what is actually libertarian.

What's interesting is when you have the tepid "I am a libertarian because of a vague set of antigovernment ideas" types pitted against the orthodox, Rand novel clutching, non-aggression principle types over who am real libertarian.

What's interesting is when you have the tepid "I am a libertarian because of a vague set of antigovernment ideas" types pitted against the orthodox, Rand novel clutching, non-aggression principle types over who am real libertarian.

I find it funny that the defining characteristic for 'libertarians' is minarchism/anarchism. Shouldn't it be advocacy for individual rights? It seems likes it's become a wee bit perverted, considering the root of the word.

Also find it funny that Ayn Rand is so popular, both with the hard libertarians, and with people who make fun of libertarians. Objectivists and Libertarians disagree on a whole bunch of levels. Rand herself called them hippies, and she thought they were more dangerous than the Conservative religious right and Neo-Liberal left._________________Hangman, hangman, hold it a little while, I think I see my brother coming, riding many a mile.

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