NATO Says It Might Now Have Grounds To Attack Russia

On Tuesday, June 14th, NATO announced that if a NATO member country becomes the victim of a cyber attack by persons in a non-NATO country such as Russia or China, then NATO’s Article V “collective defense” provision requires each NATO member country to join that NATO member country if it decides to strike back against the attacking country. The preliminary decision for this was made two years ago after Crimea abandoned Ukraine and rejoined Russia, of which it had been a part until involuntarily transferred to Ukraine by the Soviet dictator Nikita Khrushchev in 1954. That NATO decision was made in anticipation of Ukraine’s ultimately becoming a NATO member country, which still hasn’t happened. However, only now is NATO declaring cyber war itself to be included as real “war” under the NATO Treaty’s “collective defense” provision.

NATO is now alleging that because Russian hackers had copied the emails on Hillary Clinton’s home computer, this action of someone in Russia taking advantage of her having privatized her U.S. State Department communications to her unsecured home computer and of such a Russian’s then snooping into the U.S. State Department business that was stored on it, might constitute a Russian attack against the United States of America, and would, if the U.S. President declares it to be a Russian invasion of the U.S., trigger NATO’s mutual-defense clause and so require all NATO nations to join with the U.S. government in going to war against Russia, if the U.S. government so decides.

NATO had produced in 2013 (prior to the take-over of Ukraine) an informational propaganda video alleging that “cyberattacks” by people in Russia or in China that can compromise U.S. national security, could spark an invasion by NATO, if the U.S. President decides that the cyberattack was a hostile act by the Russian or Chinese government. In the video, a British national-security expert notes that this would be an “eminently political decison” for the U.S. President to make, which can be made only by the U.S. President, and which only that person possesses the legal authority to make. NATO, by producing this video, made clear that any NATO-member nation’s leader who can claim that his or her nation has been ‘attacked’ by Russia, possesses the power to initiate a NATO war against Russia. In the current instance, it would be U.S. President Barack Obama. However, this video also said that NATO could not automatically accept such a head-of-state’s allegation calling the cyber-attack an invasion, but instead the country that’s being alleged to have perpetrated the attack would have to have claimed, or else been proven, to have carried it out. With the new NATO policy, which was announced on June 14th, in which a cyber-attack qualifies automatically as constituting “war” just like any traditional attack, such a claim or proof of the target-nation’s guilt might no longer be necessary. But this has been left vague in the published news reports about it.

In the context of the June 14th NATO announcement that cyberwar is on the same status as physical war, Obama might declare the U.S. to have been invaded by Russia when former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s State Department emails were copied by someone in Russia.

It’s a hot issue now between Russia and the United States, and so, for example, on the same day, June 14th, Reuters headlined “Moscow denies Russian involvement in U.S. DNC hacking”, and reported that, “Russia on Tuesday denied involvement in the hacking of the Democratic National Committee database that U.S. sources said gained access to all opposition research on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.”

In previous times, espionage was treated as being part of warfare, and, after revelations became public that the U.S. was listening in on the phone conversations of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, espionage has become recognized as being simply a part of routine diplomacy (at least for the United States); but, now, under the new NATO policy, it might be treated as being equivalent to a physical invasion by an enemy nation.

At the upcoming July 8th-9th NATO Summit meeting, which will be happening in the context of NATO’s biggest-ever military exercises on and near the borders of Russia, called “Atlantic Resolve”, prospective NATO plans to invade Russia might be discussed in order to arrive at a consensus plan for the entire alliance. However, even if that happens, it wouldn’t be made public, because war-plans never are.

The origin of this stand-off between the U.S. and Russia goes back to promises that the West had made in 1990 to the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, not to expand NATO up to the borders of Russia, and the West’s subsequent violations of those repeatedly made promises. Gorbachev disbanded the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact, on the basis of those false assurances from Western leaders. Thus, Russia is surrounded now by enemies, including former Warsaw Pact nations and even some former regions of the Soviet Union itself, such as Ukraine and the Baltic republics, which now host NATO forces. NATO is interpreting Russia’s acceptance of the Crimeans’ desire to abandon Ukraine and rejoin Russia following the 2014 Ukrainian coup, as constituting a showing of an intent by Russia to invade NATO nations that had formerly been part of the Soviet Union and of the Warsaw Pact, such as Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia; and this is the alleged reason for America’s Operation Atlantic Resolve, and the steep increase in U.S. troops and weapons in those nations that border on Russia.

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Russia is a dangerous threat, I say send the Poles in to deal with it. (Damn Reds exporting all that non GMO wheat and buying cheap Rottenchild manipulated gold and all tha other terrorist shit they do)

The irony is delightful - the USA has spied on EVERYONE for a VERY LONG TIME, for Political advantage, Military advantage, and certainly for economic / developoment advantage.

The World is fast tiring of the "It's OK when WE do it, but NOT OK when OTHERS do it" mentality, and should the USA (which is what NATO is - the USA) decide to get embroiled in a "real" war with a capable opponent, it might be interesting to see how many "NATO States" decide "suicide might not be so painless" (per the 4077).

Agreed. And the other irony is that if Obuttboy followed this route he would semmingly prefer to get into a nuclear war with Russia than prosecute criminal lieing cunt HillBilly using evidence (From whatever sources) that she committed criminal acts?

When you do go nuclear against Russia, please make sure it is in summer. Not because attacking Russia in winter is a bad idea (nukes aren't particularly fussed about weather conditions), but simply because I live 1500 miles southwest of anywhere in Europe Putin is likely to launch against in retaliation, and our prevailing winds in summer come from the south.

If the WaPo morons writing about these veiled threats had any brains they would notice the string of disasters that follow Russian invasions.
Clearly a poor education is a WaPo employment requirement.
Every army that tried that stunt got crushed.
Even the civilians attacked the invaders.
Not only that, but the NATO morons seem to think that attacking Russia is the same as attacking Libya.
The outcome will be very different.
Hopefully the Russians simply take the NATO pawns as prisoners, maybe put them to work on a farm or some such.
They might learn some life skills.
On the other had it might get nasty really fast.
If that is the case Putin should release a lot of sleazy emails and photos that he must have of our leadership.
Aside from nauseating us with the images, it might undercut the aggression that is so prevalent among psychopaths.

Your home wireless router (Linksys or Cisco) comes pre-configured with a local IP address – 192.168.0.1.

This group of addresses, starting with “192” is reserved for local addresses and is never used on the Internet.

If a 10-y.o. girl changes this address to a public IP address – 202.108.119.193 (belonging to the Chinese News Agency XINHUANET.COM) and starts “hacking” from a computer connected to this wireless router, it would appear as if the “attack” was originated from the Xinhua News Headquarters in China.

Please, do not try it at home - the law enforcement, through your service provider, can easily track it back to your mother’s basement, but if a .GOV is looking for a False Flag, it should be more than enough and here’s why…

If the “hacker” sends an e-mail with a Trojan, the e-mail’s headers will show the source address as Xinhua’s.

If the “hacker” hacks into the machine directly, like Hillary’s Guccifer, the logs will show the same source address belonging to Xinhua.

THIS, according to Stoltenberg, should be enough to evoke the Article V and start a war with China, Russia, or any other country.

Lets hope that, if they do start WW3, we have enough internet so we can share around the names and addresses of the parasitical squids and their minions. May as well make sure everyone tastes some poop pie.

It doesn't work that way, but spoofing an IP address is remarkably easy, and many 10yo kids can do it.

Go ahead. Change your PC's IP address and try to reply to this comment. See? Nothing works. It would have worked 25 years ago, but not now.

Now, look up 'arp cache poisoning', and you'll know how to trigger WW-IV. You'll also find a boatload of pre-written software to make it easy.

NATO is only following the Pentagon's lead. The Pentagon believes (or has convinced themselves) they can win a first-strike, but that world opinion of them would sour after they cause a few billion deaths. They have to make it look like a NATO (US) first-strike is actually retaliation.

The problem is: winning is, by no means, a likely or even possible outcome. We (the US) are out-tech'ed and we know it. But, like a tantrum-prone toddler, we're willing to commit suicide if we can't rule the sandbox.

Um, you can't just switch your ISP's modem/router's IP to whatever you want and have it work. You need to go back to networking class if you think that you can assign random IPs to a device in a network and have it just "work".

Russian winter wouldn't matter. It would go nuclear in days. I wonder if the US military would immediately enact a coup if war was declared? They'd realize that only those in the Gov. bunkers would survive and nuclear winter would deform ecosystems beyond saving. Will they murder their own families? This may be the only wall between humanity and lunacy as Obombyou aims his missiles.

It would be interesting to know who is on the short and long lists for the bunkers.
And how many short listers will find out at the door that they never even made it to the long list.
Surprise!
They were rat patsies all along.
In the end the rats will gnaw each other to death.
As well it should be.
The inner rat circles will be gripped by paranoia and will act accordingly.
The outer rat circles will regroup agains the inner rats.
They think like rats, after all.
They will act accordingly.

It's a nice thought but, the more I see US Generals talk in interviews or speeches the dumber and more deeply brainwashed they seem. The thought of them having the wherewithall to think the way you described in the 1st part is very doubtful and, in the 2nd part, I doubt if they'd have the guts!

Whilst employed by the UK Ministry of Defence (MOD) some years (decades now) ago, I had the dubious pleasure of working with US Army Commissioned Officers, at about the same time as we were being visited by Russian Military staff (end of the Cold War and everyone's going to get along fine . . . . .).

I was struck by how very smart the Russian NCOs were, and how very dumb - but - exceptional the US Commissioned ranks were, and I was rather relieved that WW3 had NOT happened under their "expert guidance" . . . . .

Long term. Russia knows she is more American than America is these days. far more practical to strike leadership and their families and not engage in a ground war fighting people who aren't their enemy.

I'm in Indonesia so in the Southern Hemisphere and well out of the jetstream. Still, our dry season (May-September) has (cool) winds coming up from Austlia from the South East. So could you put my name on that leter to cuntlove, because I would very much prefer a (European) Summer nuclear offensive also.

Even IF they start using nukes, the outcome would be that most of the world's population would be dead. All because some dual citizen Iraeli neocons in the US insist on a Unipolar world. Trump gets it so if anyone cares about staying alive, that would be the way to vote?

I'm not a total Trump supporter but for the above reason alone, and for the sake of our children and grandchildren, he would get my vote. HillBilly would for sure get us into a nuclear war, especially as Victoria Nuland is reportedly her top choice for Secretary of State. Between them they would end the world.

Two bad-tempered skanks like Hellish and Nuland aka Nudleman aka Neudelmann picking a fight with the Ruskies -- oh yeah, that will end well.
Both of them have spawn of military age -- why are they not putting their lives on the line?
You'd think those two sows would be happy to see their piglets serve or at least pose in uniform even if they never saw action beyond a desk job.
The nerve of those two tramps to drag us so close to confrontation and then cower in safety with their snotty spawn.