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"Using the original DotA created by Eul (the original Defence of The Ancients map for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_III:_Reign_of_Chaos)) as a base, Guinsoo made DotA Allstars by adding his own mix of content, largely expanding the number of the heroes, adding recipes, numerous items and various gameplay changes. Then Guinsoo with version 6 of the map passed DotA Allstars on to its current developer, Icefrog. Pendragon, who is the Director of Community Relations for Riot Games, helped create the previous DotA Allstars website along with its forums."

Guinsoo is part of the team making LoL.

On Hon's side of things:

"You are about to play a stand alone DotA based game. We have asked IceFrog if he had any objections to this and he did not, he is ok with it. Heroes of Newerth contains both content very similiar to DOTA and brand new content of S2 Games' creation."

1. You can't be sue'd for using a type of gameplay (or else the ppl who made the first FPS would be pretty sue happy by now right?)

2. Isn't HoN made by Savage 2 Games? afaik a lot of the team that worked on DotA is working for Riot Games, which made League of Legends.

s2 is the new company which icefrog either owns or is part of and HoN is the official dota game and this game and its website all have dota on it... thus they can be sued by icefrog because they are making or going to make money off frogs idea and creation.

the thing i dont understand is this cant be icefrogs doing as he made HoN at the moment it seems the people behind this are posers BUT i could be wrong which is why im trying to understand.

"Using the original DotA created by Eul (the original Defence of The Ancients map for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_III:_Reign_of_Chaos)) as a base, Guinsoo made DotA Allstars by adding his own mix of content, largely expanding the number of the heroes, adding recipes, numerous items and various gameplay changes. Then Guinsoo with version 6 of the map passed DotA Allstars on to its current developer, Icefrog. Pendragon, who is the Director of Community Relations for Riot Games, helped create the previous DotA Allstars website along with its forums."

Guinsoo is part of the team making LoL.

On Hon's side of things:

"You are about to play a stand alone DotA based game. We have asked IceFrog if he had any objections to this and he did not, he is ok with it. Heroes of Newerth contains both content very similiar to DOTA and brand new content of S2 Games' creation."