Christianity does not require people to disregard their reason, or to be credulous

[A book that claims the earth was made in 6 days. Treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light.]

If during the creation the earth was close to a black hole then scientificly it would work. Technically there is one source, realisticly they are two different sources, the light reflected by the moon would forever be lost to the earth if the moon did not reflect the light.

I’m not an expert on his matter.
My experience: I was 16 when abortion was legalized in 1973. I didn’t know any adult women, or girls in high school, who were happy about it. The women, and the girls , all seemed dazed and confused by it.
Some of the older adult women cried when abortion was legalized. My mother did. Others, as well.
I grew up in a working-class, middle-class suburb of NYC, mix of Catholics and Protestant Christians for the most part. That was the milieu. That was my little world.
To be brutally honest, the only ones who were celebrating abortion in this milieu, in this world I knew, were men. Men were celebrating abortion in 1973, not women. At least in the world I grew up in.
Alot of t adult men I knew gave me the elbow nudge to the ribs and a blink of the eye. I was “lucky” because I was “off the hook “and I could fuck all I want without the possibility of a shotgun wedding. They didn’t have that “luxury”. They were envious.
That was the thinking of the overwhelming number of adult men, and fellow boys in high school that I knew.
If there were any men around who didn’t like the legalization of abortion, they were real quiet about it.
From my personal experience, I have come to the conclusion that abortion is at the crux of female craziness today.
To speak in general, the women I knew were dazed and confused when abortion was legalized, then soon after, women went off the deep end. I think they went off the deep end in the pain and confusion that the legalization of abortion caused in their hearts and in their minds, deeply affecting the feminine spirit, so to speak. I think that’s the crux of the matter.
Just a theory. Just from my own experience.

yes, they [men] are the problem, and womyn will have to realise this. Men are the carriers of a Y chromosome that makes them the way they are, I believe. Womyn have to be strongly aware of the posibility of men’s inherent sadism and cruelty.

Heterosexuality is NOT natural for womyn. It has been forced, imposed and indoctrinated upon them via malestream customs and culture. Womyn who want to be free seriously have to consider overcoming heteropatriarchal conditioning.

As a radical lesbian separatist, I tend to advocate that womyn separate from men as much as they can (either to become lesbians or spinsters). Considering the world-wide gynocides that are currently happening in pornography, prostitution, harmful ‘beauty’ practices of femininity, trans-politics, reproductive technologies, and (in the non-Western world) FGM, abortion of baby girls, etc, it is clear that womyn are safer without men.

Trust me, you feel a lot better and freer when you practise everyday separatism and womyn-centrism (while keeping an eye on what’s happening in the world). (Of course I recommend this as much as it can be possible within the life of each individual womyn)

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Personally, I often imagine that, maybe one day we could all live in an all-female world and we could somehow find a way to reproduce via parthenogenesis (e.g. as in Nicola Griffith’s Lesbian Utopia novel Ammonite, or Katherine V. Forrest’s Daughters of a Coral Dawn, another Lesbian Utopia). There have been compelling scientific proofs that men, because of their Y chromosomes, are doomed to extinction anyway…

In real life, and as mirrored in media images, boys and men are obsessed with death. Mary Daly referred to this obvious male preoccupation with death as “necrophilia,” meaning the love of death. Men’s necrophilic tendencies are not limited to literally sticking their dicks into corpses, although it includes that; necrophilia refers to men’s obsession with death and all things related to death and antithetical to life, including neglect and abuse, causing reproductive harm, rape, murder, torture, war, inflicting physical and emotional pain generally, and placing themselves and others in harm’s way in every way. Where women are interested in and indeed heavily invested in preserving and nurturing life, often because they have to, or face legal or social consequences if they fail, men are working very hard to undermine women’s efforts to nurture life at every turn.

Why? Because…

Necrophilia supports male power. Obviously, the power to take life or to cause extreme suffering is a form of power, and men embrace this power fully when they torture and kill animals, girls and women, and each other. Where boys and men are obsessed with death and creating destruction, women are left to perform damage control, utilizing all their time, energy and resources on mitigating the harm that men inflict; women are then left with few or no resources to use towards building a female-centered culture or to support our own interests. This diversion of women’s resources away from woman-centered and non-patriarchal ends is deliberate. The unusual man who is even slightly interested in nurturing or preserving life is the beneficiary of enormous false gratitude, but when women make a mistake or are unable to perform caretaking duties at a high level for any reason, we are severely punished by patriarchal institutions which place extreme controls on women’s lives and enforce our caretaking role with institutional violence, including incarceration. Of course, it is frequently men’s necrophilic actions such as PIV-centric sexuality creating unwanted or ambivalent children, or men harming themselves and others, that create the need for women’s usually unpaid, institutionally-unsupported caretaking labor in the first place, and opening the door to patriarchal institutional control over women’s lives. Granting men the power to open the door to institutional patriarchal control over women is critically important to and supportive of male power.

I suggest that the recent rise of homosexuality is a reaction made by a patriarchical culture to the movement to give women equal rights. Homosexuals are trying to derive women even of the status in human relationships.

A homosexual is effectively saying "I can go ahead and have a sexual relationship without including women, without having the consent of a woman." Homosexuality seems to be all about reducing the power and status of women- of making them unnecessary. I think, in spirit and effect, it is almost akin to rape.

["I think that you are confused on the definition of abortion. Medical abortion is a procedure that uses various medications to end an established pregnancy. [...] If there never was a pregnancy to begin with, then it cannot be considered abortion."]

No I am not confused.

The medical community's verbal acrobatics in an attempt to redefine preganancy so these drugs do not qualify as aborting is not recognized by the Church. What Webster says is irrelevant. What the Church says is relevant.

Notice the androgyny in the manikins [at Macy's]-—Marxists want to make men and women interchangeable——so they can destroy the family unit—it is radical egalitarianism-—the State will raise the children.

Note all the push for little girls to be boys to be girls—or whatever. Confusion is forced on children so they can never be rational. They are taught truth is a lie. They are being fed moral relativism where there is no Right and Wrong except what the State tells them. They will be easily led and manipulated because they will be unable to recognize Truth.

Read Brave New World and 1984 to get a glimpse of the ugly, drab world, these Marxists and Macy’s are trying to foist on the population. This is brainwashing and conditioning into the Brave New World.

We knew that eventually Liberals would get around to the "Final Solution" Who ever doubted what is in the hearts of especially the most dangerous terrorist in America - the Eco Terrorist? The worshipers of earth will don't find global warming as the real enemy - they find YOU and your CHILDREN as the scum that must be cleansed from the earth. Of course, they want to be the ones left to care for the earth. You? Turned to ashes if necessary. That's where this new Earth Worship is headed in the future. Doubt at your own peril.

(Note: This is the guy's reaction to a parody article from The Onion.)

Gay Marriage...NO
Gay Adoption....NO
Gay Acceptance....NO
Gay Tolerance.....no way to get rid of them is there

Homosexuality is not normal, we need to find out what causes it for sure and erradicate that. I blame the acceptance crowd in part and the public school systems. I also blame society's acceptance of "sex sells". You can't hardly watch anything on TV without explicit sexual content, inuendo and suggestion. Even video games are full of it these days.
Our society is prodicing little hornballs that are determined to "get it" anywhere it's available...thats where these kids are coming from that are claiming bi-sexuality. Commercialism of sex needs to be stopped.

I don't see the problem with discussion of the topic on a conservative forum either....how are matters to be dealt with by not discussing them. A failure to communicate helps no one.

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Also homosexuals should NOT be allowed within talking distance of children. No teachers positions at all, period. They don't reproduce...they recruit.

New Jersey gay man Joao Simoes is suing his hospital after an on-staff doctor refused him his HIV medications. Dr. Susan Borga* allegedly later told his private physician what the patient had done to become infected was "against God's will."

When the hospital finally permitted Simoes to call his personal physician on the third day of his stay, he learned that the doctor had already spoken with Borga about Simoes' medication, according to the complaint. Borga allegedly responded: "You must be gay, too, if you're his doctor." "Additionally, apparently realizing that plaintiff's doctor had an accent, Dr. Borga exclaimed, 'What, do you need a translator?' to which plaintiff's doctor had again responded that Dr. Borga needed to give plaintiff his HIV medication," the complaint states. "Dr. Borga responded to plaintiff's doctor by stating, 'This is what he gets for going against God's will,' and hung up the phone on plaintiff's doctor."

The hospital also initially refused to allow the patient's sister to visit him. She was finally permitted to bring him his medications after he'd missed five doses. Missing doses of HIV medication can cause the patient to become resistant to the drugs.

Let's pretend for a moment that you "like" women Gerald, and took your girlfriend/wife to a Christian church. Both of you get up from the pew to go do something elsewhere in the church, and she leaves her purse behind. Would you be worried that the purse or it's contents would be stolen?

Back to reality now. Let's say you take your boyfriend to a gay bar, and he leaves his purse on the table while you two go restroom hopping. Would you be worried about theft in that venue Gerald?

Gathering together in a House of God helps make people decent.

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Oh but they do exist. Communist countries and their brutal totalitarian regimes are excellent examples of atheism at work Gerald.

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I could write volumes on this topic Gerald. Where shall I start: abortion, homosexuality, pornography, recreational drug use, prostitution? Your religion has it all.

I have always wondered about the origin of certain words because I believe words should be descriptive and important.
This article uses the word "gay" several times. I have noticed that boys who prefer boys over girls and girls who prefer girls over boys have been successful in getting the public to accept this word into the everyday language of our country.
These people avoid the use of the word "homosexual" as if it were the plague but, to my knowledge, have not found an acceptable replacement for the word "lesbian" in the American vocabulary.
They have also been successful in replacing the word "hetrosexual" with the word "straight".
I raise the questions because the author of this article is concerned with the words "equal" and "rights" and how they appy or do not apply to those of her sexual persuasion.
Does the U S Constitution define marriage or give the "right" to marry to a certain group of humans? I can't find such a "right" and Does the U S Constitution declare all persons "equal" in all matters? I can't find such equality.
It is important to consider the origin of words and why they are used to replace other words and who or what group started using these 'words' to convey a different meaning. I am David Turner.

Yet another Christian pastor's anti-gay rant has come to light in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) blogosphere.

As first reported by Good As You's Jeremy Hooper, Curtis Knapp, pastor of the New Hope Baptist Church in Seneca, Kan., appears to call for the death of gays in this disturbing audio.

"They should be put to death -- that's what happened in Israel," Knapp proclaims. "That's why homosexuality wouldn't have grown in Israel."

He continues: "Oh, so you're saying we should go out and start killing them? No, I'm saying the government should. They won't, but they should."

Knapp's declaration follows that of Charles L. Worley, the North Carolina pastor who condemned President Obama's much-publicized endorsement of same-sex marriage while calling for gays and lesbians to be put in an electrified pen and left to die off.

Similarly, the pastor's comments seem in line with statements made by Ron Baity, founding pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, N.C. and head of the anti-marriage equality organization Return America, who told his own congregation that LGBT people should be prosecuted as they were historically, and Pastor Sean Harris of the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, N.C. who advocated parents "punch" their male child if he is effeminate and "crack that wrist" if he is limp-wristed.

Likewise, Tim Rabon, pastor at Beacon Baptist Church in Raleigh, N.C., condemned states such as Massachusetts, Connecticut and Maryland which have already "re-defined" marriage to include lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) couples before asking his congregants, "What is stopping them from refining marriage from a person and a beast? We're not far from that."

For the last 200 years, science has increasingly become ruled by a single “prime directive.” Those who remember the original Star Trek series will recall that every starship in the Federation fleet was bound by one unbreakable rule—they were never to interfere with the development of another culture. In a similar way, one unbreakable rule guides all modern scientific endeavors. Richard Dickerson, a prominent biochemist and member of the elite National Academy of Sciences, states it this way, “Science, fundamentally is a game. It is a game with one overriding and defining rule: Let us see how far and to what extent we can explain the behavior of the physical and material universe in terms of purely physical and material causes, without ever invoking the supernatural... A chess player is perfectly capable of moving his opponent’s king physically from the board and smashing it in the midst of a tournament. This would not make him the champion because the rules have not been followed.” 1

It is because of the “prime directive” of science (i.e. we must explain everything via evolution) that no matter how conclusive the evidence for our recent creation, it will not be acknowledged. Further-more, the evidence pointing to this reality will be buried, ignored, and at times not even seen by those whose paradigm of reality is that the prime directive must be upheld even at the cost of intellectual honesty.

For the last 50 years, it has been acknowledged that if there is more than one minor mistake on the genetic code of a species per generation, that species is ultimately doomed to extinction. For instance, if cockroaches have been around for 300 million years and they have one minor random change to their DNA every generation, over a billion meaningless mistakes would have built up - dooming them to extinction. No mechanism exists which can eliminate these minor mistakes. Natural selection can act as a quality control mechanism which can eliminate individuals with major genetic problems because such offspring are less fit for survival. However, natural selection cannot remove mistakes in the genetic code that build up having minimal survival effect.

For instance, suppose our genetic code was similar to a textbook full of information and each subsequent copy of the textbook had a few letters randomly changed. Natural selection would be like the test taken by everyone who had read each unique textbook with its individual set of errors. Very few, if any of the textbooks, could be eliminated based on the results of end of the year student testing. The next generation of books would have a few more errors, and the third generation a few more..etc...until the textbook ultimately became meaningless nonsense. Yet, for any given textbook generation, natural selection (the testing of students using all of the textbooks from that generation of books) would have no ability to eliminate any but the most blatantly erroneous textbooks. This is why it has been acknowledged that more than one minor error per generation will ultimately doom a species to extinction due to the “genetic load” of errors building up on its DNA code.2

It is not widely reported that every generation of humans has not one random error in their DNA code but thousands of random and permanent changes. These random changes are actually a loss of functioning information—the same way that random changes in the letters of a textbook result in the loss of information content.

The obvious question of ‘where did all of the original information come from?’ is also being ignored, as is the rate of detrimental changes -- orders of magnitude greater than any yet to be identified source of adding information. Furthermore, the rate at which mistakes are increasing on the human genome provides compelling evidence that the human genome cannot possibly have been around more than a few hundred generations nor can it survive indefinitely.

Never has there been so much scientific evidence supporting the reality that humans were recently created by an unimaginably intelligent designer. It is this evidence which makes it obvious that our hope lies not in this life nor in this physical universe—which is winding down, not up. Our hope lies in reconciling ourselves with the designer of this universe and in what He has done to provide for us in the eternity which will follow our physical extinction.

After many people coming to me claiming that one can believe in evolution and that God just created the first life I've decided to write this little bit here to clear up the ignorant ramblings.

1.?The Bible states ten times that life reproduces only after its own kind. As we observe the biological world all around us this fact is 100% true Dogs stay dogs, and people stay people. Yet evolution preaches that all life is a blurred continuum.

2.?The God of the Bible demands unselfish sacrifice for the good of others. “...whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.” (Matthew 20:27) Would this same God use a method of dead ends, extinctions, and survival of the fittest to make us? I think not.

3.?Belief in evolution justified the excesses of the industrial revolution, the Nazi elimination of the Jews, and the rise of Marxism and Communism. It also serves as the primary justification for disbelief in God. Although believers in evolution attempt to distance themselves from taking their theory into a social realm, these historical atrocities are the undeniable result of taking evolution to its logical conclusion. If we are a product of biological forces; why not extend these forces into our dealing with other humans? Animal groups do not lament wiping each other out in order to survive. Why shouldn’t we be the same; if we are just part of an evolutionary process which formed us? Creation is the event which ultimately gives life value because it links every humans value to our Creator who loved us enough to die for us. Evolution is the opposite.
Abundant scientific evidence exists that microbe to man evolution has never taken place. The fossil record shows no credible links between major groups of plants and animals. The chemical structure of DNA contains useful information which could not have developed by natural processes. Also, there is abundant evidence for a worldwide flood which undermines the possibility that evolution could have happened.

How God tortures will be up to him. There will be millions in hell that never heard the gospel, like the Indians, ect...so maybe they won't be tortured as bad. Then take teens, whenever they pass age of accountability, say 13, probably a few million have died over time before they reached 18, who knows had they lived longer they may have accepted, so maybe they will get a break. Millions are born in cultures and by birth taught something else and will believe it, so they shouldn't get the worse levels.

Course, think about the Jews duing WW2 and how surprised they will be. Over 6 million, 95% loved God more than most, but like most still waiting for the Messiah and didn't accept Christ. I'm sure they were sincere, being tortured by the Nazi's. To them their only hope was God. Can you imagine how they will feel, to go through all that torture on earth and then face the God they prayed too and he'll place them in eternal hell where Hitler's torture won't compare....probably just part of the generational curse on the Jews, but I would think they would be tortured less, because they loved God, but why should they get less, they denied Christ. In reality the majority of Jews will face eternal torture.

Really, with probably 80% of people going to hell, they all go for not accepting the gospel. I would assume God chooses who goes there. Face it, if you or I was born in Iran, we would be Muslim, so we're lucky to be born in the USA.

I don't see any levels in hell, but some believe it. Just be glad you're not going, to face torment on a level man has never done to man, where a trillion years is not even a second. We all will have many family members there which is sad, but God will erase them from our minds so there will be no tears in heaven, only pure joy.
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(in reply to a query from a Scandinavian about the "extremism" of American atheists)

Theres a few reasons why american atheism is so outwardly hostile and even militant :

1. It has a few key Leader/Gurus who fancy the notoriety of making atheism a quest to stomp out any and all semblences of God especially Christianity ; such Leaders have become popular thru published books to spread secularism and hedonism which are two fundamental tenets of atheism pertaining to lifestyle --- they bash the Christian Faith in order to enjoy and try justifying these tenets.

2. It has taken advantage of freedom of speech laws to preach an unrelentless barrage of hate, vitrol, defiance, and apathy for the Cause. And when it feels resistance from the Christian Community , it fuels the resentment they have toward godliness, Godly values, Godly ideologies, and especially absolute moral laws which are needed for civility of a Nation.

3. It has formed dedicated Associations such as The American Atheist Association which hold many regional conferences, a very large national conference annually, in addition to atheist kids camps to groom young people to be hateful and spiteful . The ultimate motive is to eliminate all forms of religion they see as an affront except of course for their own secular religion of (now defunct) Darwinnian Evolution and continuance toward playing the charade of Naturalism and Materialism as a worldview --- without a shred of scientific evidence and based solely on speculation, opinion, and enormous faith in the incredulous. (IE: World reknown Atheist Scientists calculate atheistic first life appearing at 1 in 10^40,000 th probability giving it every possible chance) . Atheism is a religious FAITH.

4. It feels greatly threatened with the upsurgence of proactive Christians and Theists exposing the many fallacies of atheism as a worldview or lifestyle .... and anything which stands in the way of total autonomous living whereby One makes SELF his/her god ..... is something it finds resentful even though they volitionally started the war first .

Theres other reasons, but suffice it to say, these are the major ones why hostile and militant Atheism has gained popularity in recent years . It will continue to escalate and the fury strengthened as it sees it impossible to squelch the Christian Faith (IE: ' Within 3 decades the Bible will be extinct' --- Atheist Voltaire whos own house in France is now the largest BIble distribution center to the world) .

Glad to hear its not as bad in Scandinavia ...but it is full of excitement here in the U.S. lol

I firmly believe that only God can heal our land and he is waiting for the American people to wake up to what’s going on around them about a government that is denying God and in doing so is bent on taking away those rights and liberties and freedoms given to us by God, in contradiction to the very organic law from which we are based. I think I learned a lot about the spiritualness of the battle, I never regretted what I did, I did exactly what I knew I was to do and that is to stand firm and not let some federal judge tell me to remove a monument, which he had no right to do anyway.

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What they fear most is my acknowledgment of the sovereignty of God. Even the judge on the federal bench didn’t say it was about the Ten Commandments, he said the issue is can the state acknowledge God and in his opinion he said this, ‘while the chief justice is free to keep whatever religious beliefs he chooses, the state may not acknowledge the sovereignty of the Judeo-Christian God and attribute to that God our religious freedom.' When he said that, he violated not only our constitution but the case law of the United States Supreme Court which says our religious freedom comes from God, and if it doesn’t come from God people have to realize we will lose it and that is happening in our country today with Sharia law and the allowance of religious practices for other groups but not Christians.

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Free argument and debate will always come out on the side of truth. So if you cut off free argument of debate then error survives and becomes dangerous. You see that in our schools with the teaching of evolution. That is exactly what has gone all the way up to the highest level of our government. The President of the United States talks about his evolving standards, well, when you got evolving standards you don’t have any standards at all to begin with because truth is fixed, when your standard is truth it is not going to change but we see it changing seemingly with our government.

Over the centuries the dominant faiths have always seemed to shift from country to country, continent to continent and bloody wars have been fought to ensure cultural recognition and independence for many nations. A prime example of this was the expulsion of Satanism through Islam in Spain and the crushing of the Demonic Al Andulasi Moorish Empire in the 16th Century. To this day the socialists have perverted History and told lies of how great this empire was and an advanced society well before it’s time, but in truth it was one of the most barbaric empires ever to have existed in Man’s history. It seems now that Socialism is being used by Satanists in Islam as a tool to now further the threat of Christianity being replaced by Islam in the UK is a reality unless the English gather forces and stand up to these people.

[In Response to a report that almost half of black gay teenagers have contemplated suicide.]

This is sad, and totally unnecessary. It is sad that living a gay lifestyle is more important to them than being alive. If you want to reduce suicide, promote asexualism as a viable and healthy alternative and teach all children to keep their sexuality to themselves until they are 18. First, you do not have to choose gay behavior nor act on gay impulses. If you cannot control your behavior and passions, then maybe evolution should take you out. And even if you choose this lifestyle, then you should keep it to yourself and never mention it. You cannot be attacked over something others don't know about you. If I was different in some way, I'd do whatever it takes to keep that to myself so there won't be consequences from others. If I were to advertise my difference and wear it on my sleeve, I'd be asking for whatever mistreatment I get.

“It doesn’t matter if all women are or are not like that, what matters is that society enables all women to be like that!”

As long as one woman can get away with rape because of her gender, all women are rapists; as long as one woman can get away with domestic abuse because of her gender, all women are abusers; as long as one woman can get away with child molestation because of her gender, all women are pedophiles; as long as one woman can get away with murder because of her gender, all women are murderers.

“It doesn’t matter if all women are or are not like that, what matters is that society enables all women to be like that!”

Gen Y guy’s have been systematically abused and discriminated against. Our futures intentionally sabotaged for the benefit of women.

So as long as one woman benefits from our pain and suffering ALL WOMEN ARE FEMINISTS AND ALL FEMINISTS ARE MALE HATING, MISANDTRIST, FEMALE SUPREMACIST BIGOTS!

By denying the sheer level of misandry, sexism and blatant discrimination we have had to endure, all your doing is pouring sulfuric acid onto a gaping, infected wound, and proving what narcissistic, overly entitled bigots a womans gender is.

[This was one of his comments on his own post which was called "Queers Recruit".]

Well this was back around the 1970's-1980's.

Friendships are impossible with these guys. They never stop trying to fuck me. Even bisexual guys. I tell them I’m straight and it never stops them. They just keep on trying. You either have to end the friendship or kill them. A few times I felt like killing them, honestly.

Gay men are way healthier than most seriously bisexual guys. Most of the bi guys I’ve known were kind of fucked in the head, and their almost all head-fucked about their bisexuality, generally they are in denial about it. One guy was a neighbor and he kept trying to fuck me. I ended the friendship rather violently. The cops got called and everything. I took a baseball bat and put a fuckin hole in his front door! Leave me alone, faggot!

Well, that put a stop to that. Then I told people he was bi. He was furious! He was NOT bisexual! He was going to kick my ass for saying that. A lot of those guys are like that. They fuck guys, but if you point it out, they get furious and threaten to kick your ass.

And a LOT of them are married too, and even have kids, often young kids. Really weird. I just met another one the other day. I was flattered that a beautiful 28 year old human wanted to fuck me, but it was the wrong damned gender!

I see why guys do it though. Sex with guys is so easy. Easy as filling up your gas tank. Getting sex from women is such a hassle a lot of the time.