as 59er already pointed out, you are not selecting "Season Pass" from the first menu, you are selecting "Season Pass and other options". One of the options allows you to set the recording options - channel to record if on multiple channels at the same time*, "Keep until", and padding. If you select "Record this showing" from the first menu, you do not get these options.

*Normally the result of there being both an SD and HD version of the same channel.

I just came here to say that I've never seen this on a Tivo and after having now specifically checked my Premiere, the OP must be poorly paraphrasing what the options actually say.

When using the HDUI, if I bring up the guide, select (using "Select" or "Rec") a future showing of some series that is not already scheduled to record, those are exactly the options I am given, except for that fact that it is actually "Season pass & other options" (ampersand instead of "and"). In the SDUI, the only difference is that it has "Don't record this showing" instead of "Explore this show".

At the first opportunity, I will check on my THD and Series 2, but I'm pretty sure that it is the same.

Ok, I see it now. what happens is it when you choose the SP & other options, you get taken to the program's information page which isn't really a second menu level, it's an entirely new menu. I'd say tivo took the easy route and rather than create another menu for the same thing, they just bring you to the existing page where the menu options have always resided.
The S2 menus do the same thing.

I probably should have asked the question I was going to ask with my first response 'from what menu are you selecting the show to record?'

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The current menu isn't "non-clear". The only reason you seem to think it is is that you ignored the " & other options".

That said, it is not up to me to defend the status quo, it is up to you to justify a change. Feel free to try but keep the following in mind:

1. Your proposed change is counter-productive as it adds a step to a simple recording request, does not reduce the steps necessary to create an SP (your initial complaint), and no longer tells you that you can create an SP this way.

Just a pet peeve, but when I select a show to record and the menu options are:

Record This Episode
Season Pass and Other Options
Explore This Show

I scroll down and select Season Pass ...

On the next screen, the menu options are:

Record This Episode
Get Season Pass
Explore This Show

Why do they have 2 menu levels for this?
Also, when I select Season Pass on the first menu, it defaults to Record This Episode on the second menu instead of Get Season Pass.

Not a big issue at all, but bothers me and I wanted to express my feelings.

I feel better now.

bdog

Agree completely. At first glance from what you show, I don't see a need for the first level menu at all. If there is something in there that's unique, I'm sure it could be easily added to the 2nd level.

With the sluggish navigation of the P4, I find myself selecting-ahead (like typing ahead) and landing in the wrong place. I'm learning to slow to Tivo's speed.

The menus are not intuitive at all. Intuitive and simple used to be TIvo's strength. As complexity creeps in, I think they are losing that strength. Having said that, I've never used a standard cable DVR, so I really can't compare to that. My base reference is S2.

Sorry it morphed into a suggestion. I will consider adding it to that Forum.

I brought it up originally because I just received a new RoamioPro and need to add SPs from all the shows I was recording on the ComcastDVR.
When entering 40-50 SPs, I was wondering why they did it that way.
It just seemed odd that on the first menu when I selected Season Pass & Other Options and on the second menu the Record Episode was the default instead of Season Pass.

I see now that the key is & Other Options, but it still seems odd.

Is there any reason to even have the first menu?
The second menu is the same but with the options to the right of each record method.

Is there any reason to even have the first menu?
The second menu is the same but with the options to the right of each record method.

Yes, there are reasons.

1. The first option is to allow a simple recording without leaving the guide screen.
2. The second option is for anything more complex, which takes you away from the initial screen and lets you choose the specifics that you need (be that to record with options, set a season pass, cancel a recording, or something else).