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Sure but MK8 would've hit a million on it's own eventually anyway. It's 700k now, still doing 3-4k weekly, has key DLC promo opportunities and has it's first holiday season still ahead of it. Even without the bundle I think it'd have been somewhere near 850-900k by year's end.

the problem is Nintendo has been pushed a lot the n3DS and its covers, but the audience is clearly choosing the n3DS LL

they should stop selling the OG models and stock more n3DS LL, actually 4 different models on the market is a little confusing

about the difference from last year, I would like to wait the end of this month, last year 3DS didn't sell so well in November, but this year the Smash bundle and Pokemon are coming, so sales could change from Nov.2013

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Are you sure? Vinnk said his students were hyped for NSMBU more than 3D World. I say it would have done well in its second holiday even without the bundle. Even though it wouldn't have reached one million so fast, it surely would have by the end of the generation.

Nintendo should not do any special bundles (at least none including MK8 or SSB4) for Wii U, just to spite people and prove MK8 can make 1 million without being bundled. Of course it will take longer but multiplayer ensures those Nintendo evergreen legs.

Same for SSB4. I'm sure it will do well enough but the 3DS version will help to delay some U version sales until next year, giving it a longer lasting effect. Quality creates good word of mouth and people will keep considering upgrading to the better version.

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Are you sure? Vinnk said his students were hyped for NSMBU more than 3D World. I say it would have done well in its second holiday even without the bundle. Even though it wouldn't have reached one million so fast, it surely would have by the end of the generation.

Nintendo should not do any special bundles (at least none including MK8 or SSB4) for Wii U, just to spite people and prove MK8 can make 1 million without being bundled. Of course it will take longer but multiplayer ensures those Nintendo evergreen legs.

Same for SSB4. I'm sure it will do well enough but the 3DS version will help to delay some U version sales until next year, giving it a longer lasting effect. Quality creates good word of mouth and people will keep considering upgrading to the better version.

That's pretty much been the core question leading up to launch (and still ongoing), right?

Will the New 3DS actually be able to float the 3DS to stronger numbers (or at least sustained ones), or will it simply be a transient boost for the holiday season?

My proposal has generally been that if it is a transient boost, then it makes having released the N3DS less attractive than going all in on getting a new system out sooner, but to avoid dragging people through the same discussion until we see how the system pans out, I'll wait until sometime in January to really weigh in heavily on the cost/benefit of this decision.

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That's pretty much been the core question leading up to launch (and still ongoing), right?

Will the New 3DS actually be able to float the 3DS to stronger numbers (or at least sustained ones), or will it simply be a transient boost for the holiday season?

My proposal has generally been that if it is a transient boost, then it makes having released the N3DS less attractive than going all in on getting a new system out sooner, but to avoid dragging people through the same discussion until we see how the system pans out, I'll wait until sometime in January to really weigh in heavily on the cost/benefit of this decision.

At the very least, I think the idea that they push plans for a successor if they were trying to stall past 2016 will be over soon.

Also I don't know if Wii U will be able to make up the gap this year. The bundles aren't that great and I don't know if Smash will have a huge effect. If that's the case than it would mean last year would most likely be the highest selling year of this console's lifespan which would be crazy.

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Wow, Sunset Overdrive almost sold to 50% of Xbox One, the All-in-One Entertaintment System owners. But it seems to be not a system seller with HW numbers still trending downward and being handily beaten by the Playstation TV.

The SW numbers outside of MH are kind of depressing. Seems like nothing is selling.

I think it depends on what kind of software interest it generates. I think the surprise announcement of Ace Combat rerelease might be a sign that Nintendo is trying to reignite developer interest in the platform. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo tries to get at least one western franchise on N3DS as well(I'm thinking a new portable COD if anything). I might be giving Nintendo too much credit though and Bamco just randomly decided to update a three year old game.

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So does Atelier being on Nintendo consoles once again means they're testing what sales could look like in a Vita-less future?
Or just getting more sales everywhere since Iwata might have convinced 3rd parties the 3DS audience is large and varied enough?