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Thursday, May 10, 2012

Pederasty and the age of consent

Homosexual activists bristle at the suggestion that they are sexual predators who target underage boys. But if the allegation is false, why do homosexual activists lobby to lower or abolish the age of consent? Why do they oppose statuary rape laws–unless they wish to seduce minors with impunity? For instance:

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The idea is to avoid sending an 18-year-old to prison and branding them a sex-offender for life for having consensual sex with someone six months younger than they. Their actions simply cannot be put on the same moral plane as someone who forces themselves upon an unwilling participant (whatever the age difference).

Plus, let's be honest here: anyone over 25 is practically invisible (sexually speaking) to a 17 or 18-year-old. I just don't see there being too many instances of a 45-year-old male with a beer belly and hair plugs enticing a youth of any gender into any kind of consensual relationship, do you?

Their actions simply cannot be put on the same moral plane as someone who forces themselves upon an unwilling participant (whatever the age difference).

Steve talked about statutory rape laws. Do you think the main thing wrong with a 25 year old (or older) man having sex with a ~14yo (or a couple years younger or older) boy comes down to 'Well, did he consent'?

Plus, let's be honest here: anyone over 25 is practically invisible (sexually speaking) to a 17 or 18-year-old.

Ridiculous. And the fact that you have to suggest that 'hair plugs and beer belly' is somehow a universal for 45 year olds to drive your point home illustrates how flawed that point is.

For a followup, say it's outrageous to suggest some gay man would be attracted to hairy, overweight men, or that such a man could be gay, because we all know the universal archetype for a man with SSA is Peter freaking Pan.

Gay culture has some serious problems. Ignoring it didn't make it go away in the past, and spinning it won't make it go away now.

Crude asks: "Do you think the main thing wrong with a 25 year old (or older) man having sex with a ~14yo (or a couple years younger or older) boy comes down to 'Well, did he consent'?"

Personally, I'm not sure a 14-year-old is capable of making an informed decision about these things, even if they are sexually mature, regardless of the age of the parties involved. There are also degrees of consent. Being coerced into something is hardly consent.

I'm suggesting that the punishment for all of these needs to reflect these distinctions. They're NOT all the same.

By the way, "The 1983 Code of Canon Law states, 'A man before he has completed his sixteenth year of age, and likewise a woman before she has completed her fourteenth year of age, cannot enter a valid marriage'".

Note the earlier age for girls. So I guess the Church finds nothing morally wrong with sexual relations between a 14-year-old and a 25-year-old so long as they get to bless it in one of their own establishments first.

Personally, I'm not sure a 14-year-old is capable of making an informed decision about these things, even if they are sexually mature, regardless of the age of the parties involved. There are also degrees of consent. Being coerced into something is hardly consent.

I'm suggesting that the punishment for all of these needs to reflect these distinctions. They're NOT all the same.

No, what you suggested was that no teenager would ever willingly have sex with anyone over 25. Also, that 40 year olds are all fat out of shape bearded guys with hair plugs - and that remains laughable.

So, I take it you think there should be a law against minors having sex with older people, even if it's willful? If a 25 year old man has consensual sex with a 14 year old boy, that 25 year old should be looking at legal punishments and prison time, right? After all, clearly you dislike the Vatican's rule.

This is an example of a glaring problem with gay culture. Steve, TUAD and Rhology are aiming towards the elephant in the room.

For Orthodox Jews, "the minimum age for marriage under Jewish law is 13 for boys, 12 for girls; however, the kiddushin can take place before that, and often did in medieval times."

Although they did reject unions with a very large age gap, it was not unusual within the rabbinical tradition to bless one between a legal minor and an adult (at least by our definition).

My general feeling is this: youth under 18 are generally not capable of making informed decisions about sexuality. They're naive and often base their actions on impulse and hormones. Older adults should not take advantage of this for their own pleasure and purposes. So no, I don't have a problem with the age of consent laws. However, I don't think legal adults (18+) who engage in sex with *consenting* youth OVER 16 (which is still above the age that religious leaders would marry someone off!!) should be labeled as sex offenders for the rest of their life. Fine them and put them on probation or let them serve a brief stint in jail. That's about the extent of it.

Rape is an entirely different action. It merits prison as well as having to register as a sex offender.