It does have a "built from pieces" hot rod look to it that is very attractive. Not smooth and seamless like the Japanese or BMW sport tourers. I don't see it being a boring bike, but oh that price. That price is way above many very capable machines from several different manufacturers that have proven reliability, an established dealer network, and local service and parts availability.

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From what I understand from frequenting various forums you are handling this critisim completely wrong. You are supposed to get bent out of shape and start turning towards personal attacks. Get with the program!

....the riding position combined with the V-4, make this a really desirable machine. If it had the original direct injection and ABS, it would be a no-brainer.

Without.....

wait a sec - I thought that was the whole thing behind this bike?? When did the Direct injection and ABS get dropped? The ABS I kinda get but wasn't half the point of this bike that it was going to have a super modern American motor in it?

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If pushrod V4 based on a Corvette's engine meets that criteria, then I guess they have it...

GM's V-8 engines can reasonable be called "super modern". They are competitive in every way (power to weight, BSFC, flexibility) to other "super modern" V-8 engines (Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Chrysler). Even BMW, Audi and Mercedes have little advantage unless you look at M, RS or AMG engines and those engines cost a lot more to manufacture and service.

I'm not a GM guy, I'm a Ford guy, but the Ford OHC V8 engines have no advantage over the GM pushrod engines and they are much harder to service and package in the vehicle. I think it is funny that pushrods are such a hot point for people. 40 years ago, the lowly pushrod was a mark of shame but not today. BMW R-bikes had pushrods up to the camhead. Guzzi has always had pushrods.

I do think it is unfortunate that Motus dropped the DI system, though - GM's new V8's do have that, along with cylinder deactivation.

If pushrod V4 based on a Corvette's engine meets that criteria, then I guess they have it...

The whole selling point for the Motus seems to be the engine, which is a sweet piece indeed
But why couldn't they base a much more cost effective bike around that same engine, bring the price down around 10 grand, and still have a VERY unique bike that piques everybodies interest, and that more folks could actually afford? If it was competitively priced with its competitition, it would sell like hotcakes based on its uniqueness alone.

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The whole selling point for the Motus seems to be the engine, which is a sweet piece indeed
But why couldn't they base a much more cost effective bike around that same engine, bring the price down around 10 grand, and still have a VERY unique bike that piques everybodies interest, and that more folks could actually afford? If it was competitively priced with its competitition, it would sell like hotcakes based on its uniqueness alone.

Something tells me the engine in the MOTUS would set you back ten grand. Plus.

GM's V-8 engines can reasonable be called "super modern". They are competitive in every way (power to weight, BSFC, flexibility) to other "super modern" V-8 engines (Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Chrysler). Even BMW, Audi and Mercedes have little advantage unless you look at M, RS or AMG engines and those engines cost a lot more to manufacture and service.

I'm not a GM guy, I'm a Ford guy, but the Ford OHC V8 engines have no advantage over the GM pushrod engines and they are much harder to service and package in the vehicle. I think it is funny that pushrods are such a hot point for people. 40 years ago, the lowly pushrod was a mark of shame but not today. BMW R-bikes had pushrods up to the camhead. Guzzi has always had pushrods.

I do think it is unfortunate that Motus dropped the DI system, though - GM's new V8's do have that, along with cylinder deactivation.