i hate how technical ecstasy and never say die are like automatic 2s for a lot of people because they listen to them (if they even bother) with the pre-conceived notion that they suck. several flat out bad songs on those, but also some really cool shit.

Both Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die! are fairly decent albums. They're obviously nowhere near as good as the first 6
Sabbath albums, as Titan said, but there's some pretty good songs on those albums.