We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
need access to it for some records out the database.

Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
%DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running

Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
start?

Digital MicroVax 3100-80

VMS 5.5-1

DSM Version 6

Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
right direction or what to do next with it.

I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
to get it running again?

11-05-2008, 10:04 AM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

On Nov 5, 4:49*am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:[color=blue]
> We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
> need access to it for some records out the database.
>
> Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
> %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running
>
> Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
> that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
> start?
>
> Digital MicroVax 3100-80
>
> VMS 5.5-1
>
> DSM Version 6
>
> Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
> right direction or what to do next with it.
>
> I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
> to get it running again?[/color]

Kev,

VMS 5.5 is a fairly old release. As a guess, I would suspect that the
system was rebooted recently and something did not start correctly
when the system restarted. The SHOW SYSTEM command at the "$" prompt
will, among other things, show the time that the system has been up
since last bootstrap.

Beyond that, it is fairly difficult to diagnose what precisely is
happening from only this information. Before this started happening,
when was the last time that the system was accessed.

I would suggest getting someone with the appropriate experience to
take a closer look [Disclosure: We do provide such services.] I have
seen far more data lost through unskilled attempts at correction than
through actual problems.

- Bob Gezelter, [url]http://www.rlgsc.com[/url]

11-05-2008, 11:09 AM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

On Nov 5, 10:04*am, Bob Gezelter <gezel...@rlgsc.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Nov 5, 4:49*am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>
>
>[color=green]
> > We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
> > need access to it for some records out the database.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
> > %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
> > that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
> > start?[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Digital MicroVax 3100-80[/color]
>[color=green]
> > VMS 5.5-1[/color]
>[color=green]
> > DSM Version 6[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
> > right direction or what to do next with it.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
> > to get it running again?[/color]
>
> Kev,
>
> VMS 5.5 is a fairly old release. As a guess, I would suspect that the
> system was rebooted recently and something did not start correctly
> when the system restarted. The SHOW SYSTEM command at the "$" prompt
> will, among other things, show the time that the system has been up
> since last bootstrap.
>
> Beyond that, it is fairly difficult to diagnose what precisely is
> happening from only this information. Before this started happening,
> when was the last time that the system was accessed.
>
> I would suggest getting someone with the appropriate experience to
> take a closer look [Disclosure: We do provide such services.] I have
> seen far more data lost through unskilled attempts at correction than
> through actual problems.
>
> - Bob Gezelter,[url]http://www.rlgsc.com-[/url] Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -[/color]

Thanks Bob

Would you be able to give me a price or guesstimate for you to take a
look and resolve it?

Many thanks
Kev

11-05-2008, 11:20 AM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

modinside wrote:[color=blue]
> On Nov 5, 10:04 am, Bob Gezelter <gezel...@rlgsc.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> On Nov 5, 4:49 am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
>>> need access to it for some records out the database.
>>> Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
>>> %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running
>>> Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
>>> that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
>>> start?
>>> Digital MicroVax 3100-80
>>> VMS 5.5-1
>>> DSM Version 6
>>> Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
>>> right direction or what to do next with it.
>>> I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
>>> to get it running again?[/color]
>> [...snip...][/color]
>
> Thanks Bob
>
> Would you be able to give me a price or guesstimate for you to take a
> look and resolve it?[/color]

Kevin, since you appear to be in Sevenoaks (Kent), you might like
to engage someone more, ahem, "local" (hint, hint).

11-05-2008, 11:45 AM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

In article <49118173$0$90272$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> writes:[color=blue]
>modinside wrote:[color=green]
>> On Nov 5, 10:04 am, Bob Gezelter <gezel...@rlgsc.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Nov 5, 4:49 am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
>>>> need access to it for some records out the database.
>>>> Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
>>>> %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running
>>>> Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
>>>> that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
>>>> start?
>>>> Digital MicroVax 3100-80
>>>> VMS 5.5-1
>>>> DSM Version 6
>>>> Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
>>>> right direction or what to do next with it.
>>>> I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
>>>> to get it running again?
>>> [...snip...][/color]
>>
>> Thanks Bob
>>
>> Would you be able to give me a price or guesstimate for you to take a
>> look and resolve it?[/color]
>
>Kevin, since you appear to be in Sevenoaks (Kent), you might like
>to engage someone more, ahem, "local" (hint, hint).[/color]

The internet isn't local enough? :)

I've already responded to him. I've seen an error similar to his in the
past at a medical group office.

.... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection
no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC)

Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside
of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright
notice, disclaimer and quotations.

11-05-2008, 12:34 PM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

On Nov 5, 4:49*am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:[color=blue]
> We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
> need access to it for some records out the database.
>
> Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
> %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running
>
> Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
> that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
> start?
>
> Digital MicroVax 3100-80
>
> VMS 5.5-1
>
> DSM Version 6
>
> Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
> right direction or what to do next with it.
>
> I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
> to get it running again?[/color]

A DSM (Digital Standard MUMPS) database environment exists as a
collection of daemon processes running detached on the system that
provide access and integrity to the database. All of these processes
run under the account/username that owns the database. That error
message is saying that these processes are not "up". So, if you have
access to account that owns the database, log into that account and
try something like

$ DSM/MAN ^STU

and answer the prompts and the database will start up. ^STU is the
startup routine for the DSM database. You might also be interested in
what

$ HELP DSM

can tell you.

11-10-2008, 12:14 PM

unix

Re: %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM

On Nov 5, 6:34*am, Jim <mckinn...@saic.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Nov 5, 4:49*am, k...@mols.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>[color=green]
> > We have an old vax system here which is really not used much, but we
> > need access to it for some records out the database.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Unfortunately it comes up with this error on trying to log onto it.
> > %DSM-E-NOTRUN A DSM configuration is not running[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Then it dumps you back at the logon, I found an old article on google
> > that mentions running with an -M switch but havent a clue where to
> > start?[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Digital MicroVax 3100-80[/color]
>[color=green]
> > VMS 5.5-1[/color]
>[color=green]
> > DSM Version 6[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Just on the complete off chance I'm hoping someone may point me in the
> > right direction or what to do next with it.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > I dont have any knowledge of the system or programming what can I do
> > to get it running again?[/color]
>
> A DSM (Digital Standard MUMPS) database environment exists as a
> collection of daemon processes running detached on the system that
> provide access and integrity to the database. All of these processes
> run under the account/username that owns the database. That error
> message is saying that these processes are not "up". So, if you have
> access to account that owns the database, log into that account and
> try something like
>
> $ DSM/MAN ^STU
>
> and answer the prompts and the database will start up. ^STU is the
> startup routine for the DSM database. You might also be interested in
> what
>
> $ HELP DSM
>
> can tell you.[/color]

First find the environment manager.

Set default sys$library
then
DSM/MAN/NOVOL

you will get a prompt similiar to
[color=blue]
>[/color]

Then do the following.
[color=blue]
>D ^%G[/color]
Global>DSMMGR

You may then carriage return to get back to > and then Halt to exit
back to VMS.

Here you will get a listing of environments. See if there is one
called DSMMGR, if so, then look in the sysuaf and set the password for
the DSMMGR account.

Log into the DSMMGR account and perform the following.

$DSM/MAN ^STU

This will start the environment.

If there is no environment called DSMMGR, then look for the
environment associated with the "1". This will "most likely" be the
correct environment. Follow the steps above to log into the
environment manager.