>>117771694>Can the grial summon gods?Short Answer: No.Long Answer: Technically no, but it can get you the closest thing to the god in question in can find.The Einzberns tried that during the Third Heaven's Feel, it did not go well.

Tsubame Gaeshi is a technique used by Fake Assassin uses. It is not a noble phantasm and it does not require a special weapon to use, unlike all the other weapons Archer/Shirou trace. I only read every Fate route one time 3 years ago, so I am probably talking bullshit.

>>117772269>I see thast war junkie more as a berserkerOkay then how about Athena? The Goddess of strategic warfare, law and justice, courage, wisdom and like a dozen other things.Seems like a good fit for a Saber class.Or wait... She used a spear right? Crap... Shouldn't be too hard to just swap out her weapon though, right?

>>117772030Well, that's wrong. Epic of Gil was about Gil becoming someone who matters, turning into a smug asshole, stop being a smug asshole, and then realizing that a person isn't as important as his works and the only path to true immortality is through your own deeds.

>>117773555If we just switched places and made Rin summon Berserker, she'd be fucking unstoppable. Berserker in the hands of someone who's capable of using both tactics and magic to a competent level would be dangerous as all hell.

>>117773763Granted, Rin was only competent in F/SN because except for Kotomine (and Zouken too, I guess), her competition consisted of nothing but idiots and people who barely even knew what was going onHad F/SN Rin been a master in Fate/Zero, she would've barely been above Waver or Kariya

>>117773863Being barely above Kariya or Waver isn't a compliment. Rin has the tendency to do retarded things (Archer's first command) on impulse, if anything she isn't competnt in Tactics unless someone is there to make sure she goes with it.

>>117773863>Had F/SN Rin been a master in Fate/Zero, she would've barely been above Waver or KariyaThat still puts her above Wheels and COOL. So, top three isn't too bad. The bigger question is if Tokiomi is a worse master.

>>117773999I know it wasn't a compliment. Like I said, the only reason she was able to get as far as she did in F/SN is because almost everyone else was dumber than her. Still, she would be able to handle Berserker a lot better than Ilya or Kariya because she's capable on her own.

>>117774037Tokiomi generally can keep a cooler head than his daughter, and I think that goes a longer way than Rin potentially being able to better control her Servant. Tokiomi just got shafted by having the most unruly Servant of them all

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