according to the Futoncritic so far ~:bar:11/4/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1201) Donkeys Have Souls, TooThe 12th season starts at the Playboy Mansion in Beverly Hills where 11 teams begin their journey around the world to win the $1 million grand prize. The pairs then jet off to Ireland where they must ride a high-wire bike that is 200 ft. above the North Atlantic. The first team is eliminated at the pit stop. Phil Keoghan is the host.:bar:11/11/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1202) I’ve Become the Archie Bunker of the HomeA pole-vaulting challenge in the Netherlands. Phil Keoghan is the host."I've Become the Archie Bunker of the Home" - Racers struggle to complete a challenging Roadblock that requires Teams to pole-vault a stream in order to receive their next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Nov. 11 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.:bar:11/18/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1203) Please, Lord, Give Me Milk RACERS STRUGGLE TO KEEP THEIR COOL WHEN FACED WITH SEVERAL FEISTY CAMELS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," SUNDAY, NOV. 18

"Please, Lord, Give Me Milk!" - Teams face a challenging Roadblock that requires them to milk several stubborn camels in order to receive their next clue on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Nov. 18 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

:bar:11/25/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1204)Let's Name Our Chicken PhilTEAMS MUST BREAK OUT THEIR DANCE MOVES OR INCUR A COSTLY PENALTY AT A DETOUR IN BURKINA FASO, AFRICA, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," SUNDAY, NOV. 25 "Let's Name Our Chicken Phil" - Teams must impress the local judges in Burkina Faso with their dance moves to avoid a penalty and receive their next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Nov. 25 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

:bar:12/2/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1205) "We've Really Burned Bridges, for Sure" WHEN ONE TEAM FINDS THEMSELVES LOST IN LITHUANIA, THEY'RE ARGUING CAUSES A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF FOCUS AND PLACES THEM IN THE DANGEROUS PATH OF A SPEEDING BUS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," DEC. 2

"We've Really Burned Bridges, For Sure" – The intensity of the Race causes one Team to loss their focus and places them on a collision course with a speeding bus, while another Team says some things they might regret after losing their cool during a Detour, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Dec. 2 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

:bar:12/9/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1206) "Cherry on Top of the Sundae that's Already Melted"ONE TEAM CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO WORK TOGETHER DURING A FRUSTRATING DETOUR IN CROATIA, WHILE ANOTHER TEAM MAKES A MISTAKE THAT JEOPARDIZES THEIR FUTURE ON THE RACE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," SUNDAY, DEC. 9 "Cherry on Top of the Sundae That's Already Melted" - One Team falls apart during a Detour in Croatia that requires precise teamwork, while one of the Race's strongest Teams makes a costly mistake that threatens their future, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Dec. 9 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

:bar:Survivor China12/16/07 (Su.) 10:00 PM CBS (#1516) The Reunion 12/16/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1514/1515) Finale:bar:12/23/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1207) "This is Forever, Now" One Team faces a major setback when they lose their clue and their way in Italy. In a role reversal, one often-bickering Team mends their wounds and starts working well together, while one usually cohesive Team melts down.One Team contemplates making a permanent change to their bodies in order to get ahead. One Team receives shocking news at the Pit Stop that they liken to a “three-headed serpent that at any moment can spring forward.” :bar:12/30/07 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1208) Honestly, They Have Witch Powers or Something! One Team resorts to performance art in an attempt to trick another Team into buying tickets for a later flight. Progress in one Team's relationship comes to a halt when one Team member shows signs of his former self. And don't miss a nail-biting race to the Pit Stop!

:bar:1/6/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1209) I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak On UsTHE PHYSICALITY OF THE RACE TAKES ITS TOLL ON ONE OF THE RACER'S HEALTH, WHILE ANOTHER TEAM SUFFERS AN EMOTIONAL BREAKDOWN THAT THREATENS TO RUIN THEIR PERFORMANCE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 12," AT A SPECIAL EAST COAST TIME, SUNDAY, JAN. 6, 8:30-9:30 PM, ET; 8:00-9:00 PM, PT ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"I Just Hope He Doesn't Croak on Us" - One Racer can't perform at a Roadblock due to physical exhaustion, while another Racer blows a gasket when their taxi driver drops them off at the wrong location, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, at a special East Coast time Sunday, Jan. 6 (8:30-9:30 PM, ET) on the CBS Television Network. The West Coast broadcast of THE AMAZING RACE will air at its regular scheduled time (8:00-9:00 PM, PT

:bar:1/13/08 (Su.) 8:00 PM CBS (#1210) Sorry, Guys, I'm Not Happy to See You FOUR TEAMS PUT THEIR RACING SKILLS TO THE TEST FOR A CHANCE AT A SPOT IN THE FINAL THREE OF "THE AMAZING RACE 12," SUNDAY, JAN. 13 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

"Sorry, Guys, 'I'm Not Happy to See You'" - One Racer celebrates her birthday on the Race and the only gift she wants is a spot in the final three, as the remaining four Teams battle it out for a chance to run the final leg and win the one million dollar prize, on THE AMAZING RACE 12, Sunday, Jan. 13 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host.

So, let's do an extrapolation of the schedule, shall we? Assuming 11 teams, and NO non-elimination legs (or double episodes), it would take 8 weeks/episodes to get to the final 3 teams. That would make a total of 9 weeks/episodes (including the finale). Given the season starts on Nov. 4th, ....ummm....carry the three..... ahhh.....the finale should be Dec. 30th. Gosh, nearly wore myself out on that one, I need a drink.

So, let's do an extrapolation of the schedule, shall we? Assuming 11 teams, and NO non-elimination legs (or double episodes), it would take 8 weeks/episodes to get to the final 3 teams. That would make a total of 9 weeks/episodes (including the finale). Given the season starts on Nov. 4th, ....ummm....carry the three..... ahhh.....the finale should be Dec. 30th. Gosh, nearly wore myself out on that one, I need a drink.

Boingo, why is 11 teams to start magic? I can make an argument for 13 teams as more likely and even more than that is possible.

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

GMAN, it does sound plausible. However, if you examine the entire range of possibilities, it is more likely that the one TBC with 12 stops will occur at the end of the Alaska leg so that it in effect goes right into the final leg as has been done in many 2 hour finales in the past. Neither is probable given the entire range of other possibilties(any of the other 10 legs) at this point.

I mentioned this on the TAR talk thread, probably should have put it here in scheduling.

The Nascar might not compete with TAR, but the 11/4 Sunday Night Football matchup between Cowboys/Eagles (on NBC @ 8 eastern) will comete big time with TAR. Pity to have that game against TAR for it's debut. The next game is far less attractive.

And regarding DVR/Tivo/VCR - in addition to the CBS afternoon football games possibly messing with your recording plans....keep in mind the time change (that weekend). I assume DVR's change themselves, but VCR's don't.....so everyone double check since Sunday is "fall-back" day.

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

Mine clock has been changed since Saturday morning! Otherwise, I'd probably forget!!---------------So TAR has three time conflicts on different Sundays? Football, Nascar plus the Survivor Finale? Geezo, that sucks. But those of you who have Tivos are in luck, right?

I don't think the Survivor finale will be on the same Sunday as TAR. Survivor will probably pre-empt other Sunday programs and be a two-hour finale and one-hour reunion show to take up the full three hours.