West Ham Want Answer – It’s Make Up Your Mind Time For Carroll

Written by Dr. Ed Harrison

12:07am Friday, August 3rd, 2012

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News late last night that West Ham United are telling Andy Carroll it’s make up your mind time, and they want an answer from big Andy, because if Carroll doesn’t want to go to Upton Park, the Hammers need time to go after another striker, and there’s only just over four weeks left in the transfer window.

Andy Carroll – make up your mind time Liverpool are trying to make a deal to get Carroll out on loan and then have the option of a permanent sale next season, and West Ham have easily outbid Newcastle for the 23 year-old Geordie striker, and had their bid of £2M for the loan deal, and £17M for the option of a permanent transfer next May, accepted by the Merseyside club.

But Carroll has said he only wants to leave Liverpool to go back to his home town club, Newcastle, but this move by West Ham puts Andy in an awkward position.

There’s no guarantee that Newcasle will raise their £13M bid to take Andy on loan, with an option to make the move permanent in May.

And Andy will have seen that Newcastle are stubborn and unwilling to budge in the Mathieu Debuchy deal, even though Mathieu is Newcastle’s number one target, and the Tyneside club are less than £1.5M away from Lille’s valuation of the player, who turned 27 earlier this week.

However, we’re sure the negotiations are not yet over on the Debuchy deal, and the stance taken by the Lille President could be the move that gets an agreement between Newcastle and Lille sorted out, or between Lille and another club.

The 23 year-old England international striker did not have a good first full season at Liverpool, but the side hardly played to Andy’s strengths, and there’s every reason to think that Brendan Rodgers will have Liverpool play with the ball on the ground, as he did when manager at Swansea.

On the positive side for Newcastle, they can offer Carroll Europa League football in the coming season, and the club seems on it’s way back to becoming a force in the Premier League again, and it seems that Andy is now keen to be a part of that.

But that’s not the problem – the problem is that Newcastle will hardly raise the fee they have already bid for the Gateshead lad, and if he turns down West Ham, that could leave him high and dry come September.

It’s a good move by West Ham on their part, to request an answer from the big lad, so they are not exposed in this transfer market, in their search to bring in another striker to Upton Park.

Just gotta trust the NUFC hierarchy! Last season we missed out on Gervinho, Erdinc and Gameiro and ended up with our 4th choice striker in the end which turned out to be Papiss Cisse! All 3 strikers who turned us down (asides from gervinho who’s deal pardew pulled out of) went on to have horrific seasons! If the last few seasons are anything to go by, the fact this debuchy deal is being played out in the public eye suggests he’s not our #1 target…sometimes think we make public bids to detract from actual targets!

Also, to anyone questioning why mike Ashley is prepared to shell out big for Carroll but not debuchy needs to remember, Carroll was England #9 at the euros and did well! He’s a geordie, if he banged in 20 goals next season and keeps his England place the commercial revenue will be worth a fortune, your not going to get that from a right back!

Bru. Good grief. We cannot go through the season relying on Ba & Cisse. Shola isn’t good enough. We need more firepower. AC is an excellent CF. He would be an asset to our club. Are there better / cheaper options? Perhaps, I would not turn my nose up at Andy Carroll though.

Reading through some comments on the log. Some people need to chill the out. As hard as it is be calm and patient. We’ll get our targets eventually. How often do we sign the players we’re heavily linked to? We were ‘nailed’ on for gervinho last year and look how that turned out. Same with gameiro/ erding. We’ll sign players and be fine, only the club know. If we sign no one by September then worry just chill for now we haven’t lost any blue chip players

As I pointed out earlier; when it was sold Andy Carrolls brain, as a proportion of his fee [@1.5kgs /78kgs], was worth £673,000, but after a year with King Kenny its value has declined to an estimated £385,000 . . . .

Starting to worry just a bit now, in the big arena of transfers it looks like we are penny pinching again, 2 weeks away from the start of the season and we are arguing over coppers for Debuchy, and AC does not know whether he is coming or staying were he is. But at the bottom of it all we need players in and we need them in now, we play in Black and White so lets be the same with our targets, its Yes or No time. A little after thought of concern its called the African Nations Cup and at the same time we hopefully will be battling it out for a good league position, never mind fighting on 2 or 3 cup fronts.

AC is a great striker, hence he caught everyone’s eye and the silly money thrown at him. Management – and his folks- must practically have been begging him to go. He may have another stint somewhere else, but he WILL have his best, most glorious years with us. AC can play several types of game, not just head the ball in. Let’s face it, ‘King’ Ken is not exactly a tactical genius, he almost relegated us when we were a top 2 team. But, even there with Kenny, AC must have hit the post like 15 times, those could easily have been conversions.

Why not buy Anita and play him left back with Santon on the right. If we still want Debuchy then wait until January or next season? Only my opinion but Pardew is a very astute fella so l believe he knows exactly how to respond to the latest Debuchy setback.

Guthrie and Best have left but they were fring first team players and Smith and Foster never played.

STaylor and Marv are fit and we’ve got Bigi, Amalfitano and Good who all look as if they could do a job in the first team. And, the likes of Sammi and Tav are coming through strongly. Plus, all of our top players are still here and the new signings from last year are settled in. IMO we are stronger than last year already.

So what’s the panic? We’ll sign players for sure but, because we are strong already, the club have no reason to pay over what they feel a player is worth. Saving a million here and there soon mounts up to enough for another £5M player. And, unlike most clubs, our £5M signings have been top quality.

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Transfers Summer 2017

Player

Fee

Club

INCOMING

Christian Atsu

£6.2M

Chelsea

Florian Lejeune

£8.8M

Eibar

Jacob Murphy

£10M

Norwich

Javier Manquillo

£4.5M

Atletico Madrid

Mikel Merino

£2.5M Loan – season

Borussia Dortmund

Kenedy

Loan – season – pending

Chelsea

Joselu

£5.0M

Stoke City

Transfer Fees In

£37.0M

OUTGOING

Vurnon Anita

Released

Aston Villa

Sammy Ameobi

Released

Bolton

Haris Vuckic

Released

FC Twente

Lubo Satka

Released

FC DAC 1904

Florian Thauvin

£10.0M

Marseille

Kevin Mbabu

£1.0M

Young Boys

Matz Sels

Loan – season

Anderlecht

Yoan Gouffran

Released

Goztepe

Adam Armstrong

Loan – season

Bolton

Lewis Gibson

£1.0M Up to £5M in add-ons

Everton

Daryl Murphy

£2.0M

Nottingham Forest

Ivan Toney

Loan – season

Wigan Athletic

Transfer Fees Out

£14.0M

Net Spend

£23M

Preseason Friendlies 2017

Club

Location

Date

Hearts Won 2-1

Tynecastle

Friday 14th July 7:45pm

Preston Drew 1-1

Deepdale

Saturday 22nd July 3:00pm

Bradford Won 4-0

Valley Parade

Wednesday 26th July 7:30pm

Mainz 05 Lost 2-1

Opel Arena, Mainz

Saturday 29th July 4:00 pm local time

Wolfsburg Won 3-1

AOK Stadium, Wolfsburg

Wednesday 2nd August 4:00pm local time

Hellas Verona Wopn 2-0

St. James’ Park

Sunday 6th August 3:00pm

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