FloydA:gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?

gimmegimme:FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

The Coelacanth is a fish, not a dinosaur. Many people have seen dinosaurs, and some even claim to have eaten dinosaur meat, but the media don't talk about it much. It's an open secret among taxonomists though - they all know.

Some of the dragon myths were probably inspired by finding dinosaur bones, but the original "dragon" stories from Europe were most likely exaggerated tales of actual large snakes, such as pythons, and king cobras. In early bestiaries, dragons were described as being the enemy of elephants. They were described as "killing anything caught in it's coils", like a constrictor, and living in India, and Ethiopia. See:http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast262.htm

The basilisk a creature that could supposedly kill by a glance may have been a corruption of the reports of another actual snake, the spitting cobra.

Vodka Zombie:KiltedBastich: Srsly. The stuff I love is the research that's been done on African Grey parrots that indicates that some of these birds with brains the size of walnuts have reasoning abilities in the same range as a 4 year old human (or a 40 year old creationist), including abstraction and language abilities.

FTFY

Credit where credit is due, those creationists do have really good imaginations. They manage to come up with some really elaborate fantasies and magical explanations for stuff they don't understand. They'd probably do really well as fantasy novelists, when you get right down to it. I mean, it's really close to what they do already.

TheGogmagog:Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think), I've ruled out going there for my own amusement. Also found out that my wife is 'undecided' on creation/evolution, she says it doesn't matter which is right and chooses to not decide.

Honest question: How do you marry someone and not know that about them beforehand?

kid_icarus:Magorn: FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans? Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles. But Humans and "dinosuars" ? Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance) the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago. Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that. Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm. Humans didn't even show until up around 11:59.20 pm or so

It made me smile, even though I knew where you were going. I was thinking along the same lines a few days ago after reading everything I could about seriemas and then going for a walk around the ponds and watching the egret while really high.

Delawheredad:I AM NOT defending these nut jobs BUT it is very possible that myths of dragons originated in part from dinosaur bones found back when man was more superstitious then MOST folks are today.

For instance, back in the backwardfarkistan make-a-mythology-from-whatever-period, there's a rock-slide near some river that opens up the rock strata underneath, which just happen to contain a T-rex skull.

Now, some dude comes walking buy and has the living bejesusing shait scared out of him by what appears to be some HORRIFYING BEAST WITH HUGE TEETH coming out of the rock, only to realize they're bones. But of what?

Welcome to Ameriran, chump. The reversible osmosis of church and state is in full effect.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The money was probably for roads and other infrastructure. They do the same for stadiums and malls. Tourist tax dollars are good even if it comes from stupid people.

A couple of things:

1) Tax incentives are not subsidies: (from the wiki) In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant sales tax rebates of up to 25 percent of project capital costs over a 10-year period up to $43.1 million for the $172 million project that's otherwise being financed by a group of private investors. Ark Encounter will not receive any money up front, but will get a rebate of the sales tax collected after the first year and every year after that for ten years. Groundbreaking for the $172 million Ark Encounter project is expected in August, 2011, at the Grant County site because of approval for tax rebates

2) As of June 2013, ground has not been broken to begin construction of this arson target eyesore.

Magorn:FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans? Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles. But Humans and "dinosuars" ? Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance) the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago. Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that. Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm. Humans didn't even show until up around 11:59.20 pm or so

I think you mean primates. Hominids are at like 11:59.59 pm. Last 2 million years or so.

Anyway, the oxygen thing is interesting. I know that currently theory says that a Jurassic asteroid impact likely wiped the Earth clean of most large creatures, but I wonder if that also some either somehow sequestered and/or blasted enough O2 out into space to affect the course of animal life? Or whether O2 was already on a downhill decline and then this happened? Huh.

Magorn:FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans? Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles. But Humans and "dinosuars" ? Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance) the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago. Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that. Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm. Humans didn't even show until up around 11:59.20 pm or so

Regarding oxygen content being a limiting factor, you are wrong.

Even though he was trolling, you should never be wrong when trying to debunk creationism.

TheGogmagog:Considering how expensive that place is ($35 tickets I think)

If you're going to run a con on religious people, set it at the high price points they're accustomed to paying for nonsense. A cheap con will cause them to doubt your sincerity (as well as allowing access to the poors, who they try to avoid at all times).

Magorn:FloydA: gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans? Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles. But Humans and "dinosuars" ? Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance) the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago. Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that. Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm. Humans didn't even show until up around 11:59.20 pm or so

FloydA:gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Were/are there "large repitles" that lived contemporaneous with humans? Sure, the first settlers of Australia had to contend with 15 foot monitor lizard and gaint sea crocodiles. But Humans and "dinosuars" ? Nope. Not even physically possible as the atomosphere doesn't have enough oxygen in it anymore to support megafauna of dinosaur size (also why we no longer see 2 ft long dragonflies, for instance) the era of the dinosuars started 230 million years ago and ended about 65 million years ago. Humans have only been around for about 2 million years tops, and that's the entire ancestral tree of mankind, homo sapiens much shorter than that. Put another way, If the entire 4 billions years of earth's history were represented as a single 24-hour day, Dinos showed up around 10:15pm and left at 11:30 pm. Humans didn't even show until up around 11:59.20 pm or so

fireclown:gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

Yeah. I'd kind of like to see some backup on that. Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.

fireclown:gimmegimme: Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

Yeah. I'd kind of like to see some backup on that. Horner doesn't seem like that guy, unless there is some CRAZY out of contextin' going on.

I'm not spoiling the thread since it's been outed already, but we're ALL hanging out with T-Rexes, right now. All birds are descended from theropods, of which T-Rex is one of the most recognizable.

Of course humans lived alongside with dinosaurs. We're living with dinosaurs right now. Just look out your window. See all those chirping things with feathers flying through the air?

Awww. I was hoping to stretch this one out until the liters got here. ;-)

That was beautiful, my friend.

But seriously, how awesome is it to contemplate that, yes, there are dinosaurs out there all over the place, it just took us forever to actually figure out that no, they didn't go extinct as a group, they just changed enough that we clueless apes had trouble figuring it out.

To paraphrase XKCD, the fastest living animal is a flying dinosaur that hunts by divebombing other flying dinosaurs at over 100 mph, killing them on the wing.

I'm not sure what's worse - that people actually believe this crap, or that taxpayers are funding this crap. Scratch that - what's worse is that taxpayers are funding this crap. That's just ridiculous.

FloydA:gimmegimme: FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.

Well, if you're noting something like Coelacanth, that's fine, but if you're saying that Jack Horner believes that early humans were hanging out with T-Rexes, well, you sillypants.

gimmegimme:FloydA: There is overwhelming evidence that people lived at the same time as dinosaurs. Most people don't know about it, but it's true.

Dude, The Flintstones was not a documentary.

Even evolutionists like Jack Horner and Ernst Mayr admit that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. There are a small minority of scientists, like Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin, who deny it, but if you ask most scientists, in private, they will admit that humans and dinosaurs are contemporaries. The famous evolutionist Jared Diamond has even gone to places like New Guinea in search of living dinosaurs.