....All I can add is that my current monster is not working out well. (cramped balls).....

depending on what Monster it is....that can be addressed...but it still might not be the right tool for the job..

__________________
Nothing says "why is there a hole in the wall, and where did i hide my pants?" like a couple bottles of 20% bum wine. (referencing Wild Irish Rose, Nighttrain, Thunderbird, MD 20/20, etc.)

Were there any in the first place? All that I've seen were sitting on the showroom floor with big discounts, and a salesman that basically said, You don't want one of those...

Ha ha, good point. Well, there seem to be about as many Shiver owners as Dorsoduro owners (not many), but they don't really frequent this site because the Shiver is the street version of the DD. Even though the Shiver is basically the same bike, they do seem to have more problems than the DD. Maybe the more diligent workers were on the DD assembly line?

Anyway, the three things I don't like about the Hyperstrada are the side exhaust, shorter suspension travel than the Hypermotard, and pricing about $4,000 above the Dorsoduro 750 (about the same as the DD 1200).

Most of my friends think the Multistrada is butt ugly, and I think its OK, so I guess my tastes are a little off...

Me too. But in the end it really is just a slightly more touring friendly Hypermotard anyway, right? So a comparison of the latest HM and the SMT may still be pretty relevant. I've never ridden either, but did have a SM and I bet the SMT is pretty close to that. Although I would like to hear from someone that's familiar with all three. Then how does the Rivale fit in the picture? Damn, I don't want to want a new bike!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJGeo

I'm assuming it's very similar to the Hypermotard. I doubt they handle much different, but I guess they could.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJGeo

There isn't anything wrong with how the Hypermotard (and assuming the new Hyperstrada) handles, I just think the SMT handles a lot better. I think it handles a lot better than the MTS1200 as well. It's just a very easy bike to ride.

The stock SMT luggage isn't very good. The HMT doesn't look very good either, but who knows...no one has seen it in the flesh yet.

I agree on the SSS...I think all bikes should come with them.

I always found the Hym 1100 very 'front endy' - felt like you were sitting right over the front wheel which made steering very sensitive and twitchy. The 796 Hym as a lot better and felt a bit more neutral in corners - not quite as fast to turn in but fine for me.

The new Hym is a similar riding position to the 796 (I have seen it in the flesh and sat on it - not ridden it though). Gut feeling is that it will not have the razor edge handling of the 1100 Hym but will still handle everything that 99% of riders will ever throw at it !

I always found the Hym 1100 very 'front endy' - felt like you were sitting right over the front wheel

I first saw pics of the Hyperstrada a few days ago. Instantly fell in love with the idea of it. But every Ducati Hypermotard I've sat on has the feeling you describe, and it's not a feeling I like. I dislike it to the point where I've never ridden one simply because of that.

Who knows though...maybe I've deprived myself and would fall in love with the Hypermotard. But I do know that I like the feeling that there's a bit of bike in front of me...not chopper ergos by any stretch of the imagination. Just the feeling that I'm not sitting directly on the front wheel.

The Hyperstrada has shown up on the cycle ergo site, and it looks to have very similar ergos as the hypermotard, and a similar relationship of rider to the front wheel.

I'll definitely go look at one once they hit the showrooms, if for no other reason than I love the idea of the Hyperstrada.

I first saw pics of the Hyperstrada a few days ago. Instantly fell in love with the idea of it. But every Ducati Hypermotard I've sat on has the feeling you describe, and it's not a feeling I like. I dislike it to the point where I've never ridden one simply because of that.

Who knows though...maybe I've deprived myself and would fall in love with the Hypermotard. But I do know that I like the feeling that there's a bit of bike in front of me...not chopper ergos by any stretch of the imagination. Just the feeling that I'm not sitting directly on the front wheel.

The Hyperstrada has shown up on the cycle ergo site, and it looks to have very similar ergos as the hypermotard, and a similar relationship of rider to the front wheel.

I'll definitely go look at one once they hit the showrooms, if for no other reason than I love the idea of the Hyperstrada.

and see this is exactly what I like about it, the dirt bike feel of sitting right behind the front wheel!

I wonder how the cumulative effect of those small-ish front end parts will work for wind deflection...

Probably not very well at all. On my Stelvio, I keep the windscreen (a Givi...not the factory screen) adjusted to high chest level (top just below being even with the base of my neck), and the air just brushes the top of my helmet. From the looks of it on Cycle Ergo, the Hyperstrada screen would sit about 6-8 inches lower, and I'd be a heck of a lot closer to it. I'm thinking just based on the look of it on cycle ergo, I'd be getting a helmet (and chest) full of wind.

From that pic, the screen looks to be slightly bigger than a flyscreen. Probably just takes some pressure off the chest, head and shoulders will be in the breeze, hopefully clean. Seems appropo for the concept, but it sure is funny-lookin.