Fedora Core 6 (Zod) has been released this week. Among other current software (Kernel 2.6.18.1, glibc 2.5, GCC 4.1.1, X.Org X11 7.1), Fedora Core 6 includes KDE 3.5.4. KDE 3.5.5 will be available as an official update soon.

i maybe missed something but why is it here? this is nothing speciall about KDE, or is it? lots of distros have been released before with the rencent KDE in it, like Mandriva or Kubuntu, but does they get here? no, so what's a big deal?

IMO, the Fedora project is one of the most important distributions out there. Fedora also seem to be on the right track (if not a head of others) in terms of system optimization. So, apart from the lack of an excellent support to KDE ( which is being provided by kde-redhat community ); I believe Fedora should get all the attention it needs.

Apparently, there is some Fedora fan that whined in the previous story that Kubuntu has announcements on dot.kde.org but not Fedora. The site admins, being nice, have indulged him. Mind, I'm all for being nice and all, but doesn't Fedora default to GNOME? What's next, an announcement for every distro under the sun that happens to have some KDE stuff somewhere in its package repository?

That's pretty much my point. Fedora is not *quite* the most popular distro out there, and if you count the market share of people who actually use KDE under Fedora, that number drops much, much lower still. And I thought this site was for KDE news, not a duplicate of distrowatch.
If this was about pressuring Fedora into stopping to treat KDE like a second-class citizen, though, it'd be a different thing. Are the Fedora-using people here willing to have a go at it?

Hmm, I think that came out as more aggressive than I intended it. Sorry, guys. I guess I'm a little miffed. I thought this site was intended for KDE news; I really can't see why generic distro announcements should be posted here, especially distros with a marked focus on other environments than KDE. It's cool that the Fedora guys are doing a good job with generic optimizations and such; but there are a lot of distros that are doing cool things and I'd rather not have this site turn into a sounding board for their respective fans. :/

Ah, there, here's a much better wording of just what I meant:http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2486
I knew there had to be someone out there with the ability to express my feelings in better terms than I do. :)

I know, and I never said you can't. Please kindly don't deform what I said. Thing is, you can remove GNOME and install KDE in about 95% of the distros out there. And many of them are doing a better job of packaging KDE than Fedora does, for that matter. Shouldn't THOSE get to announce their releases here, rather than one whose sub-par treatment of KDE has probably caused more harm to its image than not?

(BTW: I know what you're thinking, and no, the distro I currently use isn't one of those. I use Gentoo, and its packaging of KDE is approximative at best. And I have no desire to see Gentoo announcements appear on this site.)

I'm running KDE on Fedora since FC1, and did before on RHL. And I know I'm not the only one. Heck, the University of Vienna's Mathematics department has all their computers on Red Hat family distros (it used to be RHL, then Fedora, now it's the RHEL-derived Scientific Linux) with KDE as default. So I fail to see how this is not a viable option.

Erm - Kubuntu was covered by the message just before this one.
And it is related to KDE: KDE is included in the release, and although it is a second class citizen in Fedora Core you can perfectly work with it. I do :)

And why not post such stuff here? It gives a bit back to the distributions who care about including KDE and shipping it.

Well, consider http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net as the K in RedHat just like kubuntu is the K in Ubuntu.
Kevin Kofler and his team are doing an amazing job for kde users that needs/have to run Fedora , without the team there would be no kde in Fedora or at least not as good. So thanx Kevin and all the kde-redhat team for bringing KDE to Fedora/RedHat which by the way is still one of the most used distro outthere so it's cool to have a KDE presence on it.

Hey, give credit where credit is due. :-) kde-redhat is run by Rex Dieter, not me! I have not produced a single published kde-redhat package yet. (I have KDE 4 snapshot packages almost ready though. Hopefully I'll find the time to do the final polishing soon so Rex can push them to the repository.) I actually run the Fedora-provided KDE 3 packages, so I'm not involved in kde-redhat's KDE 3 packaging.

that is not true. kubuntu is an oficial ubuntu project. The site you refer to has nothing to do with redhat or fedora. redhat's official position on kde is that right now they are tolerating it because of its demand but we are working to get rid of kde if we can. we are doing our best, in concert with ubuntu and novell, to market the hell outta gnome so it will be possible in the future.

Whether the commenter is misrepresenting Red Hat's strategic position or not, the technical aspects of Red Hat's KDE packages speak for themselves: bizarre application defaults (yes, let's use some broken GNOME document viewer instead of kpdf), missing applications in the default install (Kontact replaced with Evolution). It surprises me that you don't get Nautilus as the default file manager, although it actually is the default if you open directories in Firefox. And this is their Enterprise Linux, not some Fedora version that you can claim is "unpolished" or whatever other excuse comes to mind.

Red Hat have been doctoring their KDE packages for a very long time, and the resulting deliverables can't usually be regarded as improvements. I guess that's why the independent KDE package scene is so vibrant, although the dependency chasm between the two sets of packages was so wide when I last ran Red Hat it was quite a scary move to make the switch.

Do you think that a major linux distro such as redhat, which is making more profits than any other linux company, wouldn't hire their own people to package KDE for their distro ? Does it have to be packaged by independent people eager to see KDE available for fedora/redhat ?

I live in Raleigh, NC and have been to RH HQ several times - don't call me a troll. I have met many RH developers at Triangle LUG also.

The problem is that my KDE is unable to intercept 'Win + Key' keys combination.

This is how it happens: in Keyboards Shortcuts kcm module I choose to modify any global shortcut and e.g. press Win + Esc. I see "Win + " on the screen but when I press 'Esc', the only 'Esc' key got entered into the "Primary Shortcut". And yes I've already tried enabling "Multikey" mode with no success. It looks like my X.org 7.1 server doesn't treat Win key as a modifier - so it doesn't allow "Win" key to be pressed together with any other key.

I had the exact same problem with my FC5 and I never found out what the problem was. If I used kontrolpanel and changed a few keys and pressed apply then things would work. Or if I restarted X things most often also worked.

It aint exact sceince but it just might help untill someone comes along with a bulletproof soolution :-)

In the mean time I will try and find out why my core 2 CPU messes things up in FC6 :-(