The perpetrators can be rehabbed and become taxpayers. Once Obama finds out who the demonstrators were who killed the Americans in Benghazi, he will find out who did this domestic violence act and get a judge to issue a restraining order after a judicial hearing.

Benghazi, what a joke. If it happened under 'W' the main stream press would have gone nuts. They hide it under Obama.

'W' reads to the kids for 7 minutes and the main stream press has a field day. Obama goes to bed while there is an attack on American soil. I guess he had to be rested for his trip to a fund raiser in Vegas the next day.

The American people buy it all. Sad.

Yes, that was a policy failure by the Obama admin, and they should have been skewered for it more than they were (We'll leave out some of the far worse blunders of"W"; multiple wrongs don't make a right).

However, sorry to tell you this, but you have a POV that is bordering on the fringe, starting with why the gun control policy modifications in Australia (12 mass killings in 18 yrs, NONE in the last 11) can be poo-pooed since they are a "socialist" country. Got it.

Want to talk about gun laws in Australia but not Fast and Furious where a US border guard was murdered.

And hundreds of Mexican citizens by guns our government sold to Mexican drug lords.

AJ Eric "Stonewall" Holder held in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over all of his records.

Holder held in contempt of Congress by a bipartisan vote I might add.

Clearly another policy failure, and a valid point; however this was not part of the dialogue between myself and 67redsox.

The perpetrators can be rehabbed and become taxpayers. Once Obama finds out who the demonstrators were who killed the Americans in Benghazi, he will find out who did this domestic violence act and get a judge to issue a restraining order after a judicial hearing.

Benghazi, what a joke. If it happened under 'W' the main stream press would have gone nuts. They hide it under Obama.

'W' reads to the kids for 7 minutes and the main stream press has a field day. Obama goes to bed while there is an attack on American soil. I guess he had to be rested for his trip to a fund raiser in Vegas the next day.

The American people buy it all. Sad.

Yes, that was a policy failure by the Obama admin, and they should have been skewered for it more than they were (We'll leave out some of the far worse blunders of"W"; multiple wrongs don't make a right).

However, sorry to tell you this, but you have a POV that is bordering on the fringe, starting with why the gun control policy modifications in Australia (12 mass killings in 18 yrs, NONE in the last 11, include a general steep decline in homicides; this can be found in other countries as well) can be poo-pooed since they are a "socialist" country. Got it.

Btw Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the USA how are they working out?

You want to compare that to Scotland, Australia, Russia, Japan, China & the like? Perhaps their gun laws are not up to snuff, and are likely limited by federal guidelines. Nice try though.

The perpetrators can be rehabbed and become taxpayers. Once Obama finds out who the demonstrators were who killed the Americans in Benghazi, he will find out who did this domestic violence act and get a judge to issue a restraining order after a judicial hearing.

Benghazi, what a joke. If it happened under 'W' the main stream press would have gone nuts. They hide it under Obama.

'W' reads to the kids for 7 minutes and the main stream press has a field day. Obama goes to bed while there is an attack on American soil. I guess he had to be rested for his trip to a fund raiser in Vegas the next day.

The American people buy it all. Sad.

Yes, that was a policy failure by the Obama admin, and they should have been skewered for it more than they were (We'll leave out some of the far worse blunders of"W"; multiple wrongs don't make a right).

However, sorry to tell you this, but you have a POV that is bordering on the fringe, starting with why the gun control policy modifications in Australia (12 mass killings in 18 yrs, NONE in the last 11, include a general steep decline in homicides; this can be found in other countries as well) can be poo-pooed since they are a "socialist" country. Got it.

Btw Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the USA how are they working out?

You want to compare that to the numbers coming from Scotland, Australia, Russia, Japan, China & the like? Perhaps their gun laws are not up to snuff, and are likely limited by federal guidelines. Nice try though.

My premise is a very simple one that is directed at both BDC and you. Take the political talk to the BDC Politics Forum since this is a baseball forum. I can't really understand why BDC won't act on this. You and others are polluting this forum with politics and this is supposed to be a baseball forum.

The perpetrators can be rehabbed and become taxpayers. Once Obama finds out who the demonstrators were who killed the Americans in Benghazi, he will find out who did this domestic violence act and get a judge to issue a restraining order after a judicial hearing.

Benghazi, what a joke. If it happened under 'W' the main stream press would have gone nuts. They hide it under Obama.

'W' reads to the kids for 7 minutes and the main stream press has a field day. Obama goes to bed while there is an attack on American soil. I guess he had to be rested for his trip to a fund raiser in Vegas the next day.

The American people buy it all. Sad.

Yes, that was a policy failure by the Obama admin, and they should have been skewered for it more than they were (We'll leave out some of the far worse blunders of"W"; multiple wrongs don't make a right).

However, sorry to tell you this, but you have a POV that is bordering on the fringe, starting with why the gun control policy modifications in Australia (12 mass killings in 18 yrs, NONE in the last 11, include a general steep decline in homicides; this can be found in other countries as well) can be poo-pooed since they are a "socialist" country. Got it.

Btw Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the USA how are they working out?

You want to compare that to Scotland, Australia, Russia, Japan, China & the like? Perhaps their gun laws are not up to snuff, and are likely limited by federal guidelines. Nice try though.

Again you ignore the elephant in the room known as the 2nd amendment to the constitution.

None of those countries have anything close to it.

Love it or hate it, it's there.

I don't hate the 2nd amendment, nor do I think that is the basis for the current situation; but IMO, there is LITTLE TO NO PROGRESS in trying to fix the obvious problems, and at one time the NRA wanted background checks; there is still a significant faction of the NRA that wants this; it appears this is more a matter of pigheadness, ego, and no change for no change sake by the gun lobby, which is defying 86% (according to C-SPAN) of the American people. Subsequent elections may illustrate this.

The biggest problem are illegal guns in the hands of criminals the administration should have approached the law presenting stricter laws for criminals holding illegal guns.

10 years in possession of an illegal handgun.

5 years for illegal gun sales.

Start from there and work back for registration of legal guns.

I think Obama overplayed his hand.

Have to go after the criminals first not the sportsman. Jmo.

How many sportsmen have weapons that makes the WWII M1 rifle look like a water pistol?

How many sportsmen can't wait 6 days or even less for a routine background check?

The perpetrators can be rehabbed and become taxpayers. Once Obama finds out who the demonstrators were who killed the Americans in Benghazi, he will find out who did this domestic violence act and get a judge to issue a restraining order after a judicial hearing.

Benghazi, what a joke. If it happened under 'W' the main stream press would have gone nuts. They hide it under Obama.

'W' reads to the kids for 7 minutes and the main stream press has a field day. Obama goes to bed while there is an attack on American soil. I guess he had to be rested for his trip to a fund raiser in Vegas the next day.

The American people buy it all. Sad.

Yes, that was a policy failure by the Obama admin, and they should have been skewered for it more than they were (We'll leave out some of the far worse blunders of"W"; multiple wrongs don't make a right).

However, sorry to tell you this, but you have a POV that is bordering on the fringe, starting with why the gun control policy modifications in Australia (12 mass killings in 18 yrs, NONE in the last 11, include a general steep decline in homicides; this can be found in other countries as well) can be poo-pooed since they are a "socialist" country. Got it.

Btw Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the USA how are they working out?

You want to compare that to Scotland, Australia, Russia, Japan, China & the like? Perhaps their gun laws are not up to snuff, and are likely limited by federal guidelines. Nice try though.

Again you ignore the elephant in the room known as the 2nd amendment to the constitution.

None of those countries have anything close to it.

Love it or hate it, it's there.

I don't hate the 2nd amendment, nor do I think that is the basis for the current situation; but IMO, there is LITTLE TO NO PROGRESS in trying to fix the obvious problems, and at one time the NRA wanted background checks; there is still a significant faction of the NRA that wants this; it appears this is more a matter of pigheadness, ego, and no change for no change sake by the gun lobby, which is defying 86% (according to C-SPAN) of the American people. Subsequent elections may illustrate this.

The biggest problem are illegal guns in the hands of criminals the administration should have approached the law presenting stricter laws for criminals holding illegal guns.

10 years in possession of an illegal handgun.

5 years for illegal gun sales.

Start from there and work back for registration of legal guns.

I think Obama overplayed his hand.

Have to go after the criminals first not the sportsman. Jmo.

How many sportsmen have weapons that makes the WWII M1 rifle look like a water pistol?

How many sportsmen can't wait 6 days or even less for a routine background check?

I read a figure the other night in an article on gun control that was staggering.

The number of people of tried to illegally purchase firearms last year was in the 10s of thousands, I seem to remember the figure being 48,000 attempts and of those only 4000 were arrested.