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hi, i am a newbie here.but in indonesian forum, i am quite active. ( http://indonesia.faithfreedom.org/forum/ )since indonesia is the biggest moslem country in the world, you may want to hear the real voices of most minorities (us) who live among those moslem. there are many enthusiastic indonesian members who want to speak up in this international (english) forum.but it's unfortunate, language become the barrier. colaboration in translation is most necessary.how about that?i hope this issue can be solved.

There are many people on the Indonesian forum who speak English really well, as you do!

Even if your English is not so good, nobody minds at all, as long as you say that English is a bit of a problem,everybody will naturally be patient!

Are you thinking to set up a translation service between the two fora? I can speak passable Indonesian to I can help.

Do you think it would work if each Indonesian who speaks English,like you,brings a buddy and translates for him when necessary?

What can we do to be more inviting?

@manfredHi, thanks. My English is not that good. I had to go back and forth Google translate, just trying to find the right words. Many indonesian members are not eloquent enough, afraid might get the wrong ideas from bad translation (esp. with full length sentences).Translation service.... well, i would do it occasionally during my spare time. It is a good idea, but not time eficient.Therefore i suggest we make a translator (like Google translate). It will bring many more people with no hesitation.How about that?

pehaps he could have a dual language forum here, were people can write in indoesian, if they need a tanslation for something, and we can all chip in an translate...

google translate is not bad, but there are also others like toggle text; all come up with somewhat weird Indonesian or English, but good enough to understand most things. if not perhaps we need a forum where people can simply ask if they are stuck. (No didcussion there, otherwise it will be a never ending string of posts. Simply things "say this in indonesian" or "apa yang ini di B.I.? We could even make that section private so that only people who need it will see it.Do you think that is worth trying?I also have a chat with the other mods and admin to see what they think...

haji mukmin wrote:Therefore i suggest we make a translator (like Google translate). It will bring many more people with no hesitation.How about that?

Any automatic translator will not be better than the existing ones.

If you want to make indonesian issues more prominent on the english sites, why not do the translation on the indonesian forum and then someone can post it here or submit it to the main page and/or some other english sites like jihad watch?