The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan

Is this book good? Has anyone else read it?

Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though.

The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan

Is this book good? Has anyone else read it?

Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though.

The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan

Is this book good? Has anyone else read it?

Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though.

That's what I was thinking, he's a Catholic priest, isn't he?

Crossan was ordained a priest, and so in the Catholic view is technically still a priest, but has no authority to engage in priestly acts unless it is a dire emergency and there are no other priests around (such as last rights when there are no other priests around).

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So I bought this little gem for about a dollar for my Nook. Wow! This is such a wonderful little book. You really get the sense that this this saint really and truly cares about humanity. If any y'all have the means, go out and purchase or borrow it; you won't be disappointed!

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"The Scots-Irish; Brewed in Scotland, bottled in Ireland, uncorked in America." ~Scots-Irish saying

So I bought this little gem for about a dollar for my Nook. Wow! This is such a wonderful little book. You really get the sense that this this saint really and truly cares about humanity. If any y'all have the means, go out and purchase or borrow it; you won't be disappointed!

Just ordered it on my Kindle. Thanks for the recommendation!

Selam

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""Love is a dangerous thing. It will crush you if you trust it. But without it you can never be whole. Love crucifies, but love saves. We will either be saved together with love, or damned alone without it." Selam, +GMK+

I've recently taken to hunting down antique books lately. Bought a 1932 Georgia (US) history textbook (the things they said about black people are almost amusing--if they weren't so incredibly ignorant and biased) from a book sale at my university; bought a book of the early speeches of Wilfird Laurier, Canadian PM from 1896-1911, that was printed in 1890; and now I just bought a volume of Montesquieu's Persian Letters that was printed in Scotland in 1773. Can't say I agree with all Montesquieu says, but he definitely had some interesting things to say.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I just finished The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. Aside from a classic, this really is an epic novel! I loved it! So funny and yet so well crafted! Such depth of imagery and casual insertion of mythic symbolism. The dialogue was superb, the narration insightful without being dry or invasive. The plot incredible.

I love the combination of Church and gangster scandals, which is why one of my favorite contemporary authors is Arturo Perez-Reverte!

I especially enjoyed how all the characters and events were interconnected, sometimes obviously, sometimes loosely, and how there was a syncretic blend of sociopolitical commentary merged with the sheer audacious fun of the Roman Noir era of French literatureThe ending was perfectly tragic as well. While I usually read novels too deeply like an English Lit teacher, I just enjoyed this one for what it was. Maybe after a second read I will reflect better on what the novel means to me and what the symbolism expresses, but for now, reading was just fun enough

stay blessed,habte selassie

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"Yet stand aloof from stupid questionings and geneologies and strifes and fightings about law, for they are without benefit and vain." Titus 3:10

The Reactionary Mind:Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin by Robin Carey. It was recommended to me. Not something I would normally read, but it has been very englightening. I am thankful for the recommendation.

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"If you cannot find Christ in the beggar at the church door, you will not find Him in the chalice.” -The Divine John Chrysostom

“Till we can become divine, we must be content to be human, lest in our hurry for change we sink to something lower.” -Anthony Trollope

Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.

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I know a secret about a former Supreme Court Justice. Can you guess what it is?

Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.

The Greatest Prayer: Rediscovering the Revolutionary Message of The Lord's Prayer, by John Dominic Crossan

Is this book good? Has anyone else read it?

Crossan is generally considered fairly unorthodox, but this hasn't been so bad so far. Not as dry as the other stuff by him that I've attempted either. Probably not a great book to read if you're looking for an orthodox perspective though.

That's what I was thinking, he's a Catholic priest, isn't he?

He was at one point but left the Priesthood for a woman. I don't think he is still regarded as a Roman Catholic based on the ideas he has espoused in various interviews.

Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.

Never been bored in my life, but if I were, this is probably not how I would approach it.

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Well, in an attempt to cope with an increasingly great amount of boredom, I decided to peruse my book shelf and see if there was anything I hadn't finished or hadn't read for a long time, and realized that I never did get very far into An Overview of Orthodox Canon Law by Metropolitan Rodopoulos, so I'm reading that now.

I've read that one, and it isn't a cure for boredom

Lol, it's actually not bad. I'm fairly interested in the subject matter, thankfully; but, it is certainly still not something that I can spend too much continuous time reading.

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Just finished reading Steven Runciman's book "The Fall of Constantinople", I have to say it is extremely depressing.

The hardest part was about the looting and sacking of the city. I couldn't help but sit there and marvel at why in God's name the Emperor didn't just immediately surrender the city and abdicate his throne, it would have spared so many lives, so many innocent people, so many icons and relics, so much religious literature. They could have spirited them away to Mount Athos or Russia (which was beating back the Mongols by this point). We would still have the icon painted by St. Luke as well...

German is like that. Given the fact that English is a Germanic language at first there are a lot of cognates and all that. But as you progress within the typical register not to mention more specialized registers of German, it becomes more and more alien.

Sorta like the complete opposite of Spanish.

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German is like that. Given the fact that English is a Germanic language at first there are a lot of cognates and all that. But as you progress within the typical register not to mention more specialized registers of German, it becomes more and more alien.

Darn. Well anyway, I'm going to pretend like it's a snap for as long as I can.

"This is the cross - to become dead to the whole world, to suffer sorrows, temptations and other passions of Christ; in bearing this cross with complete patience, we imitate Christ's passion and thus glorify our God the Father as His sons in grace and co-heirs of Christ." --St. Symeon the New Theologian

The "great minds think alike" thing doesn't apply to my clan, so I'm not sure where this coincidence came from I've also been using some German audio CDs that I got from the library. It's been much easier having both visual intruction and an audio aid, even if it's not interactive.

The "great minds think alike" thing doesn't apply to my clan, so I'm not sure where this coincidence came from I've also been using some German audio CDs that I got from the library. It's been much easier having both visual intruction and an audio aid, even if it's not interactive.

Good idea.

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"This is the cross - to become dead to the whole world, to suffer sorrows, temptations and other passions of Christ; in bearing this cross with complete patience, we imitate Christ's passion and thus glorify our God the Father as His sons in grace and co-heirs of Christ." --St. Symeon the New Theologian

Two chapters in and the "on the devil's side without knowing it" charge seems misplaced. I think the times where Milton seems to be glorifying satan are more intended to be jabs at humanity, such as one passage that I read as saying that, "even the demons don't fight among their own kind like we do!"

I'm missing a few of the mythological references. I could use a guidebook. I've just got a no frills, Borders books copy. Not that I don't get what Milton was saying, but it would be nice to just look up the references for my "know-it-all dweeb" cred lol.

Two chapters in and the "on the devil's side without knowing it" charge seems misplaced.

Because of the stirring speeches given by Lucifer, and the comparatively flat-footed dialogue by God, the angels, etc., some have come away with the impression that Satan is the real "hero" of the poem. I think Milton was simply being very wise in showing how truly seductive and seemingly noble evil can be. For me, Satan's conscious decision to deceive his own angels as well as Adam and Eve "who wrong me not, for him who wronged" put to rest any regard for Satan as a noble character.

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I'm missing a few of the mythological references. I could use a guidebook. I've just got a no frills, Borders books copy. Not that I don't get what Milton was saying, but it would be nice to just look up the references for my "know-it-all dweeb" cred lol.