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tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Congratulations, Ohio State. You snapped a nine-game losing streak to the SEC in bowl games with your 31-26 Sugar Bowl win against Arkansas. When some Southerner starts talking about all that "ESSS EEEEE SEEEEE speed," you may remind him of the times Buckeyes receivers raced past Arkansas defensive backs or the times Ohio State defensive end Cameron Heyward blew past the Razorbacks' linemen.
Unfortunately, there is now one thing you can't do.
Thanks to the events of the past month, you've forfeited the right to the moral superiority you've enjoyed over the SEC. You can be as good as the SEC on the field, but the human beings in the Big Ten's premier athletic department are no better than the human beings in the athletic departments at the football factories in the SEC. Yes, the SEC oversigns, and that's highly unethical. Yes, SEC programs have players who commit NCAA violations, and that's highly unethical.
Well guess what? Ohio State also has players who commit NCAA violations. Five of them played Tuesday, and Ohio State wouldn't have won without them.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by cigaretteman

Congratulations, Ohio State. You snapped a nine-game losing streak to the SEC in bowl games with your 31-26 Sugar Bowl win against Arkansas. When some Southerner starts talking about all that "ESSS EEEEE SEEEEE speed," you may remind him of the times Buckeyes receivers raced past Arkansas defensive backs or the times Ohio State defensive end Cameron Heyward blew past the Razorbacks' linemen.
Unfortunately, there is now one thing you can't do.
Thanks to the events of the past month, you've forfeited the right to the moral superiority you've enjoyed over the SEC. You can be as good as the SEC on the field, but the human beings in the Big Ten's premier athletic department are no better than the human beings in the athletic departments at the football factories in the SEC. Yes, the SEC oversigns, and that's highly unethical. Yes, SEC programs have players who commit NCAA violations, and that's highly unethical.
Well guess what? Ohio State also has players who commit NCAA violations. Five of them played Tuesday, and Ohio State wouldn't have won without them.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by cigaretteman

Congratulations, Ohio State. You snapped a nine-game losing streak to the SEC in bowl games with your 31-26 Sugar Bowl win against Arkansas. When some Southerner starts talking about all that "ESSS EEEEE SEEEEE speed," you may remind him of the times Buckeyes receivers raced past Arkansas defensive backs or the times Ohio State defensive end Cameron Heyward blew past the Razorbacks' linemen.
Unfortunately, there is now one thing you can't do.
Thanks to the events of the past month, you've forfeited the right to the moral superiority you've enjoyed over the SEC. You can be as good as the SEC on the field, but the human beings in the Big Ten's premier athletic department are no better than the human beings in the athletic departments at the football factories in the SEC. Yes, the SEC oversigns, and that's highly unethical. Yes, SEC programs have players who commit NCAA violations, and that's highly unethical.
Well guess what? Ohio State also has players who commit NCAA violations. Five of them played Tuesday, and Ohio State wouldn't have won without them.

I can't believe how bad Arkansas played. Besides the dropped passes, I couldn't believe the poor tackling, poor angles taken, and the flat out ignorant play. If I was Petrino, I would be chewing my DC's ***. They wer fundamentally horrible. The blocked punt was amazing. How one of those two idiots don't run that back for a TD is totally baffling.

Oh, yeah, tOSU has never been on the up and up so nothing has changed inthat regard

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by tazclone

I can't believe how bad Arkansas played. Besides the dropped passes, I couldn't believe the poor tackling, poor angles taken, and the flat out ignorant play. If I was Petrino, I would be chewing my DC's ***. They wer fundamentally horrible. The blocked punt was amazing. How one of those two idiots don't run that back for a TD is totally baffling.

Oh, yeah, tOSU has never been on the up and up so nothing has changed inthat regard

I was sitting there last night and I called the blocked punt. I just had a feeling it was coming. Then I immediately yelled because he fell on the ball instead of picking it up and walking into the end zone. What a moron. What's the worst that can happen if you try to pick it up and fail? An OSU player can come jump on the ball but it is still 4th down and your ball. Awesome block, followed by a bonehead move.

Oh yeah, and tOSU has been dirty for a long time. This was just the most recent and more publicized events. The NCAA suspended them for next year because they didn't want their BCS game to be terrible.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

I saw the block coming a mile away. I immediately yelled when the ******* fell on the ball instead of taking it to the house. I called the block and I called the pick. Stupid stupid Mallett. He's the next Ryan Leaf. And yes I'm bitter about it because I picked Arkansas and would have had first place in the office pool had they won. A classic choke from the Hogs.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

I partially blame the Arkansas OC, they ran the same "dump the ball to the guy standing in the middle of the field three yards from the line of scrimmage" about a million times for gains of about two yards each and the final interception. I'm not a coach and i'm sure there are reasons for it, but it appeared boneheaded to me.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

The issue of morals should be taken against the NCAA. According to them, those 5 players were eligible to play. This had nothing to do with Ohio State. If you want to talk about morals, $Cam Newton and Auburn (who last time I checked won the Heisman AND is eligible to play for a National Championship...where Auburn wouldn't be without buying him in the first place) should be the primary focus of this season.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

I was sitting there last night and I called the blocked punt. I just had a feeling it was coming. Then I immediately yelled because he fell on the ball instead of picking it up and walking into the end zone. What a moron. What's the worst that can happen if you try to pick it up and fail? An OSU player can come jump on the ball but it is still 4th down and your ball. Awesome block, followed by a bonehead move.

When i was in high school, we blocked a punt and a teammate of mine touched the ball when trying to scoop and score. He couldn't handle it and a guy from the other team landed on the ball.

They received a 1st and 10 from that spot. The referee claimed we had possession of the football and then fumbled it, but that was obviously not the case.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

And I see nothing has changed on here as far as people unwilling to give OSU credit where credit is due. 9 BCS bowls in a row, winning 6 of them. You could very easily argue OSU has been the best program, certainly the most consistent program, in the nation over that time period.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by Ficklone02

And I see nothing has changed on here as far as people unwilling to give OSU credit where credit is due. 9 BCS bowls in a row, winning 6 of them. You could very easily argue OSU has been the best program, certainly the most consistent program, in the nation over that time period.

OSU gets a lot of flak on here for their bowl performances yet they've outperformed Oklahoma.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by Jarrods79

The issue of morals should be taken against the NCAA. According to them, those 5 players were eligible to play. This had nothing to do with Ohio State. If you want to talk about morals, $Cam Newton and Auburn (who last time I checked won the Heisman AND is eligible to play for a National Championship...where Auburn wouldn't be without buying him in the first place) should be the primary focus of this season.

If tOSU wanted to take the high ground they could suspend the players for the bowl game if the NCAA wont. Instead they "took the fall" by saying they didn't inform the players correctly about the rules, which is complete BS. I'm pretty sure all FBS football players are told they aren't supposed to take free stuff (tattoos).

Don't get me started on $Cam. The funny thing is, as good a college player as he is, he will probably flame out like Vince Young in the NFL.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by Ficklone02

And I see nothing has changed on here as far as people unwilling to give OSU credit where credit is due. 9 BCS bowls in a row, winning 6 of them. You could very easily argue OSU has been the best program, certainly the most consistent program, in the nation over that time period.

I give tOSU full credit. They played very well and even overcame a bad call on the safety.
They have also been a very consisted program and could probably beat Auburn or Oregon if they got the chance.

However, that does not mean that I think Pryor and friends should have been playing in the bowl game. Not for a minute. The NCAA protected their interests and so did tOSU.

Re: tOSU Shows it Can Match SEC in Speed, Power and Questionable Ethics

Originally Posted by Ficklone02

And I see nothing has changed on here as far as people unwilling to give OSU credit where credit is due. 9 BCS bowls in a row, winning 6 of them. You could very easily argue OSU has been the best program, certainly the most consistent program, in the nation over that time period.

If they plan on staying there, they need to step it up. Free tatts, "loaner" cars, cash for autographs and phantom jobs at car dealerships will no longer cut it. Auburn has shown that it takes a minimum of $200,000 to get there.

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