You got this from context I'm sure, but those are legit minute and second notations. Used mostly in geography, as each degree of a circle is divided into 60 minutes, and each minute into 60 seconds. This is why geocoordinates are usually N35o 17' 37.748" W117o 47' 28.490" format.

Here's a curveball for your poll. I've never eaten at BK because the only one in Finland is in Helsinki, so i don't know how to answer, apart from saying that it probably is very similar to every other fast food chain i've ever eaten at (which would be McDonalds, Hesburger and Kotipizza).

Burger King in Denmark is okay, it's not high quality but it's not as bottom tier as it sounds like it is in USA. I prefer Burger King over McDonalds any time there is a choice, though if I have a real choice I go Carls Jr over either of those.

Worst part of NN is that the providers are going to be able to double-dip in payments. Charging users for the data being used, and then charging the providers of the traffic for the data their users are using to prevent them having slow access to it.

Eventually once business' are being charged enough for it, the costs will be passed on, meaning users will be charged twice for the data consumed.

I like how some of the comments mention taking their business to Chik-Fil-A or some other fast food place. There's a key difference though, and that's choice versus necessity. You never NEED a burger - you just prefer to eat it, since you can always eat something else to sate your hunger. With the internet, it's almost a necessity in life right now. We're at the point where if you don't have a cell phone and/or internet access, you're behind the times.

Besides there has to BE an actual Chik-Fil-A to go to anyway. As i understand it most of the americans are boned because they only have 1 or 2 ISP's to choose from of which only one has a decent infrastructure.

That WHOPPER® Sandwich with a ¼ lb* of savoury flame-grilled beef topped with juicy tomatoes, fresh cut lettuce, creamy mayonnaise, crunchy pickles, and sliced white onions on a toasted sesame seed bun is the most important part.

Yeah, and I wish they played this part up a little more. The main reason they are limiting Whopper sale speed is to encourage another service. In this case either because the ISP has their own service or another service they've worked out some sort of partnership with.

No, because they raise the prices for everyone, so they encourage more drivers to get on the road and discourage people that didn't really want to order. If you could pay extra for faster service, then it might be analogous to net neutrality.

Imagine if 100 people wanted to order but there were only 10 drivers. Those 10 drivers could serve everyone, but delivery times might be a bit unreasonable, like say maybe it would take an hour and a half for your food to get delivered.

With surge pricing, you’ll lose some customers—let’s say it drops to 50–but you’ll probably gain drivers, so those customers could order and get their food in a more reasonable amount of time.

For a service like UberEats you gotta balance the supply and demand and delivery times, and surge pricing makes sense for that

That’s just called internet speed. It shouldn’t effect certain websites. Every website should get the same speed you pay for. Just like everyone should have a fair chance to get their food on time with the traditional queue system.

This is going to get downvoted but I highly suggest anybody reading this post actually spend the time to read the NN documents/info yourself. There is nothing about NN that stops ISP's from doing this sort of thing. Telling people that its repeal means that suddenly ISP's will be allowed to do this is disingenuous at best, blatant propaganda at worst. Again, nothing about the NN actually stops ISP's from doing these sorts of things if they wanted. Repealing it changes nothing in this regard. Their ability to screw you over is the same, with or without NN.

What NN really does is give the government the power to control and censor the internet. What the people pushing this propaganda want you to believe is that ISP's will independently decide to nickel and dime you for content, throttle your speed or control access to parts of the internet. Again, nothing about NN actually stops this from being the case.

Downvote me and shill if you want, I know reddit has been pushing the narrative on this for quite a while. (While simultaneously actively censoring its own subs and manipulating content) If one person reads this and decides to educate themselves instead of falling for the propaganda then ive succeeded.

I don't feel like this really explains net neutrality at all. ISP already charge different amounts for different speeds. A better analogy would be if you could no longer buy a whopper but instead had to pay separately for each ingredient in the burger but again not the best analogy anyways.

They charge you for different speeds, but under net neutrality rules, all traffic is created equal. Without net neutrality, Inspection are free to slow down your traffic to certain sites/content providers and charge you and/or the site/content provider for the full speed access that you already paid for.

Hardly, burger king doesn't have a monopoly on fast food and them selling shitty food doesn't fuck over anyone apart from those buying the food, nor is buying burger king's burgers a necessity for daily life.

The internet is never die. How you get internet is the issue. NN literally has all the pros and none of the cons for consumers like you and me. How can you be against that?

This 2014 argument is also stupid. Net neutrality has always been there, ever since the internet started, ever since we downloaded virus-laden mp3s on LimeWire. NN is the status quo. The fight is to keep it that way. The 2014 regulations was put in place to KEEP it like that, because corporations realized they can fuck up with consumers to earn more.

Unless of course you WANT to pay higher fees, have data caps and throttling. Then by all means.

Ok as long as they pander to your circle jerk through ads it's fine? We should start slapping net neutral stickers on products and you guys will eat that shit up. It's like Y2k safe and gluten free combined.

wew, there it is. Are you saying guberment regulation is inherently bad? Why is net neutrality bad in and of itself? Why are you happy to blindly trust corporations that took a huge sum of money from the government that they were meant to use to upgrade their shit to fibre, then promptly didn't?

Define "the government". Is it the current congress? ALL the government? Specific senators? Please explain in detail.

How is giving that same government control of the issue a solution?

A hand picked set of cunts removed a specific part of government regulation that protected both other private enterprises and individuals from ISP's.

You're arguing that reinstating something, that was removed by the government, lobbied for by ISP's, is going to somehow open up the market and prevent ISP's from fucking people over. Why the fuck would ISP's want to allow competition onto their turf? Multi-billion dollar corporations don't give a fuck about your ideology, unless it directly benefits them.

I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but what you're saying reeks of "all government regulation is bad" rather than a nuanced view of politics and private enterprise.

Two things: it's entirely possible they will, and it's entirely possible they'll force other companies to pay a premium for proper distribution. This isn't a problem for established companies like Netflix and Google, since they can afford to pay, or at least pass the price on to consumers.

Regulation shouldn't just be looking at the damage being done now, it should also look to the future as well.

And yes, I fully believe all government regulation, with the exception of civil rights and military defense, is terribly bloated.

Right, so we should hack away at the regulations that have demonstrably prevented larger corporations from bullying smaller enterprises into paying what amount to protection money?

Thank you. I don't get why no one is wondering why after its repeal is the first time we have seen a push for local operated isps. On top of the fact that when Facebook, Google, and Amazon support something, they have already shown it's not because they have the consumers best interest in heart.

We just need a bill of rights that protects consumers, as with all other industries, from predatory practices. And more importantly we need government to not get involved in the flow of information cause that's just a huge potential problem with a government already spying on it's people illegally and engaging in propaganda within it's own borders.

Could you provide any evidence that there has been any notable increase for "local(ly) operated isp's"?

The fact is that net neutrality only has one thing to say about the flow of infromation. "No one has the right to prioritize". Period.

It amazes me how many people that can't trust the government do trust large corporations. The government may fuck up more often then not, but the explicit purpose of a corporation is to take as much of your money as possible. There is no legitimate competition in the land of ISP's, and in cases like that, you need regulations to prevent the decay of capitalism.

Or to use your words, "On top of the fact that Comcast, Time Warner, and AT&T support something, they have already show it's not because they have the consumers best interest in heart".

What I mean is the sudden interest by people and the push by some municipalities. There's many stories floating around right now where people are talking about the idea. Which I mean let's be real, most nerds have talked about for a very long time. But actual serious talk of it is only recent.

Thank you. I don't get why no one is wondering why after its repeal is the first time we have seen a push for local operated isps. On top of the fact that when Facebook, Google, and Amazon support something, they have already shown it's not because they have the consumers best interest in heart.

It's precisely your observation that I'm not going to be too invested in the NN debate beyond simple education. December proved that this controversy won't be won by the people, but by businesses. The most consumers stand to lose is maybe a few bucks more a month here and there. Businesses that thrived under NN have far more to lose; thus more motivated to do something.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but NN is good for "internetcompanies".
Net neutrality could allow the ISP to charge said companies, and the user of data at the same time. Not good for "Internetcompanies".

On top of that, If the repeal makes internet less attractive for the users of said Internetcompanies because of unrealistic costs, they will lose customers. So ofcource they profit from a stable and fast network. Their income depends on it.

I'm not American so I'm not super involved into the debate. Please reply if I got it all wrong.

I think the real issue is, no one really knows what that bill does. It was supposed to protect consumers from shady practices but it let Comcast still cap people. Mobile internet gets throttled. Really all that happened was it let the government collect a tax on internet access that wasn't there before.

Except the speed system only effected one menu item (website). They demonstrated this by saying they could order a chicken sandwich right away. This alternative item being more profitable to BK to sell. This is a good example of lack of net neutrality.

This is awesome. I know burger king motivation is: "people are hot on net neutrality, let's make an add talking about it so we look like good guys, sell more whoppers!!!". But you know what, I don't care if it's an add, or that now I want a whopper. Badly... I do care that it's a good message and awareness is being spread. Hope in the future more companies advertise like this.

Just doesn't seem genuine when it's used in a way for advertising their product. Better than nothing though, still prefer McDonalds though - Burgers from Burger King taste like what I make at home, so it's cheaper just to make it myself.