50-53

54-57

58 or more

Here is a bad fact:
Only 3 teams in the entire NBA have a worse record than the Pistons right now: The Knicks, the Nets, and the Timberwolves.

Our winning percentage (.313) is lower than Kwame Brown's free throw percentage (.385). That flat ugly topspinnning brick has a better chance of finding net than the Pistons do of winning.

Will Bynum's 3-point percentage is higher and half of those are airballs.

Here are some other stats through 16 games that seem out of whack.

Our defense gives up a lot of free throws. On a percentage basis, we give up the highest ratio of FT/FGA at .289. The Hawks are at .190 for comparison. On an absolute basis, we have given up the 2nd most free throws per game at 28.6 and commited the 2nd most fouls.

This is a big reason why our defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) is now 21st in the league. So don't kid yourself and think that our defense is a strength right now. The ppg allowed is purely because of our snail's pace. We are still 30th in the league with 87.4 possessions per game.

The Nets are the only team with fewer assists than us.

We are the 3rd worst FT shooting team percentage wise with a .722 average. This is terrible considering how many fouls BG, WB and RS draw and that they are good free throw shooters. If you back them out of the equation, our percentage must be horrific. It is actually .578!!!.

Most of the other stats show that we are in the middle of the pack, with certain variatons. The ones that are slightly positive are that we draw fouls well ourselves, we don't turn it over a ton, and we get a lot of offensive rebounds. The slight negatives are that we don't block shots, we get blocked a lot, and our FG% kinda sorta blows.

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i WISH THIS POST CAN BE PUT ON THE pISTONS CHALKBOARD BECAUSE if these losers(Piston mgmt) think they have or are going to accomplish anything with players lacking the heart of a Ben Wallace ,they should be fired for trying to make fools out of real NBA fans. Karen Davidson reminds me of that owner in Major League. Too bad the team doesnt have their heart.

We were a jumpshooting team in years past and were very injury free. Now, we are an attacking team on offense and have had a rash of injuries. However, our jump shooters are all injured (Rip, BenGo, and Tay). So, I think this is more bad luck than style of play generated.

If Stuckey, Bynum, Ben Wallace, and Maxiell were the injuries, then it would point to the brutalities of living in the paint.

I think one of Bynum's ankle sprains was caused by him backpeddling down the court and stepping on someone's foot behind him.

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Portland played 8 guys last night and have 209 missed player games to injury and still kicked our tails last night. I dont want to hear about no stinking injuries when we are on a home stand!!!!

I really thought they would do better, but I think people are being kind of rough on them.

They were excellent for so many years. I don't know of any team in any sport that could keep up that kind of winning for so many years without a down time or rebuilding phase. (Yeah, I'm sure some smart Azz can come up with an exception or two to this rule so don't waste your time doing so. I'll concede in advance).

How would the Cavs be doing without Williams and Verajio, or if they had to go without James for a stretch. How about the Celts without Garnett? Or without Perkins, Rhondo and Garnett.

Its hard to say how the Pistons would be doing if there were no injuries. Someone said in the last game thread that the Pistons did not have any good 3-pt shooters to make a last sec 3-pt shot. What about a healthy Ben Gordon?

No matter what the circumstances, I'm just saying that it is really hard to make a poll where 53 people are wrong and 1 is right. I guess there were lots of choices, so that spread the picks out, but it still would be a rare happening.

I still think they will exceed that number though when we get healthy and when Ben Gordon starts taking over every 3rd game or so to get us some surprise W's.

I think if we had all known going in that half our roster would be injured; the picks would be different. Noone could have forseen the injury plague we caught.

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That's why it is a black swan. We informed our prediction based on past expectations, including a healthy roster. We can't predict the future because the past only accounts for the known, not the unknown.

I just looked at the odds. We've been lucky about injuries until last season.
Tay and Rip are thinner and IMHO, more subject to injuries as their careers move on. I'm still expecting Ben or JJ to go out for at least 15 or more games this season. Plus, I just figured the mix of players wasn't happenin....Thus, my guess of 31 wins.

I think if we had all known going in that half our roster would be injured; the picks would be different. Noone could have forseen the injury plague we caught.

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This is why you can't make educated guesses on past years performances and you need to give the team a chance to play a few games to see how the chemistry meshes with the new coach and new players before you vote....You see what happen last season with Curry.

I was waiting to see how they played their first 10 games before I voted, but the polls closed after 7 games and not only did the Pistons have a record of 3-4, but Tay and Rip were already MIA and there was no communication that first three weeks on how either would be out.. Of course it took while for them recover and so far the Pistons still haven't. (I may have given them 35 W's if not for the injuries)

In a similar analogy, the Univ of Michigan mens BB team was ranked 15th in the preseason rankings based on last years tourney and their returning players before they even played a game and they are currently sporting a nice so-so record of 10-9.

This is why you can't make educated guesses on past years performances and you need to give the team a chance to play a few games to see how the chemistry meshes with the new coach and new players before you vote....You see what happen last season with Curry.