So I'm trying to find what do women find lame about us guy and what do you women find a turn off when it comes to us males? Any answer is necessary no matter how ridiculous or outlandish it may be so dont be shy.

At the risk of repeating myself. Don't act as if you are a vulgar know-it-all. Some 'jokes' aren't funny.

Both o3oBuddha and Deathguitar, your the wrong gender to be responding to this thread.
To Deathguitar The first and last line of o3oBuddha's comment would likely turn many women off. Personally I think comments like his give men a bad reputation regardless of his statement about competitiveness being correct or not.

Thanks to all the ladies for the responses, it's always nice to have more info on what you like and don't like. I know everyone is different but the things that repeatedly get mentioned are helpful to know.

Both o3oBuddha and Deathguitar, your the wrong gender to be responding to this thread.
To Deathguitar The first and last line of o3oBuddha's comment would likely turn many women off. Personally I think comments like his give men a bad reputation regardless of his statement about competitiveness being correct or not.

Thanks to all the ladies for the responses, it's always nice to have more info on what you like and don't like. I know everyone is different but the things that repeatedly get mentioned are helpful to know.

I have to disagree. there. I know the thread asks all the ladies to respond. But I think 'Ladies only' and 'No gurls allowed' threads are silly and narrow. I have no grievance with Either gentleman's Age Gender, Presumed country of origin, sexual orientation etc. It is simply the content of o3oBudda's comment that started this chain that I took as something worth mention to the OP as 'lame' and a 'turn off'. Perhaps content is the wrong word.

I have no problem with debating weather competition or arbitrary measures of prowess are attractive or not in a civilized fashion. It was, as you say, the first and last line of comment that started all this that I found rude, offensive, and VERY off-putting. I can only speak for myself, but I would be VERY surprised given conversations I've had with my girlfriends, to find that I was alone in this opinion.

To be fair, I chose the wrong response. instead of calling the Offender specifically on what I found off-putting and offensive. I fought fire with fire and acted no better than the one I was criticizing.

To the others on this thread, for that I apologize.

My point remains. The OP asks what is 'Lame' and a 'turn off' o3oBudda's post is an example of such.

Anyhow OP. Don't be a vulgar know-it-all. It doesn't impress me, at the very least. Maybe others feel differently.

Yes, just maybe.
Everyone feels the same way, I mean how could anyone ever want a enthusiastic man?

Yes that's what he is. Enthusiastic. How could I have been so stupid? Dude, you just don't get it do you? that's fine. but there's really no point in continuing to respond. Have the last word if you wish.

I do wish it, because you are fucking rude.
You took his joke, and made it into a whole fucking chauvinistic woman-hate debate.

Not to incur your wrath, but I've been finding his "jokes" vile as well. First, I find that the "jokes" are rude - and in my opinion (though evidently not in yours), ruder than her response. Whether they are truly ruder or not is subjective and thus not worth debating, but they are rude. Second, consider the premise of the "jokes." Third, I think the "jokes" are out of place.

OP: Worth noting is how males and females appear to be responding differently to the "jokes" in question. Since the friction has already caused quite a bit of bad feeling, I hope it at least helps you with your quest to better understand the likes and dislikes of women.

"There are two types of men in this world. Open perverts who admit it, and the closet pervert who won't." - Naotsuga, Log Horizon

I upvote you for that quote because it's relevant and well.... gah, it was great right?!
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Onto the topic, OP... you sound like me a bit before in a certain phase. I suggest you don't worry about what happened and move on from what raised you this question in the first place because all you're going to learn is that everyone has different turns offs and whatever you're trying to learn and understand.

Maybe, I'm just speculating and entirely wrong and the main reason is that you just want information since you were curious or something. It doesn't look like it to me though, but I'm reading text.. so hell... my perception could be wrong.

Your question is literally very open-ended to have a great discussion among people, I hope you're not taking everything in as suggestions to change yourself because I say it's futile and a waste of time really.

Anyhow OP. Don't be a vulgar know-it-all. It doesn't impress me, at the very least. Maybe others feel differently.

Yes, just maybe.
Everyone feels the same way, I mean how could anyone ever want a enthusiastic man?

Yes that's what he is. Enthusiastic. How could I have been so stupid? Dude, you just don't get it do you? that's fine. but there's really no point in continuing to respond. Have the last word if you wish.

I do wish it, because you are fucking rude.
You took his joke, and made it into a whole fucking chauvinistic woman-hate debate.

Not to incur your wrath, but I've been finding his "jokes" vile as well. First, I find that the "jokes" are rude - and in my opinion (though evidently not in yours), ruder than her response. Whether they are truly ruder or not is subjective and thus not worth debating, but they are rude. Second, consider the premise of the "jokes." Third, I think the "jokes" are out of place.

OP: Worth noting is how males and females appear to be responding differently to the "jokes" in question. Since the friction has already caused quite a bit of bad feeling, I hope it at least helps you with your quest to better understand the likes and dislikes of women.

My "Jokes" were one joke.
Which wasn't even a joke, but symbolically to represent what women feel towards competitiveness.
Noone should be taking it as a "Vile hate crime, or misrepresentation of women as a whole."
And to say women don't like competitiveness instinctively are quite rude, what wouldn't make a man feel better than a woman letting him know that she loves him or likes him for his achievements that he worked so hard for?
That'd feel pretty damn good, and not to like him JUST for that, but to appreciate it at least.

So your joke was basically a stingy satire. I literally just saw it as more of a vulgar joke and chuckled a bit. -slow clap-

Both o3oBuddha and Deathguitar, your the wrong gender to be responding to this thread.
To Deathguitar The first and last line of o3oBuddha's comment would likely turn many women off. Personally I think comments like his give men a bad reputation regardless of his statement about competitiveness being correct or not.

Thanks to all the ladies for the responses, it's always nice to have more info on what you like and don't like. I know everyone is different but the things that repeatedly get mentioned are helpful to know.

I have to disagree. there. I know the thread asks all the ladies to respond. But I think 'Ladies only' and 'No gurls allowed' threads are silly and narrow. I have no grievance with Either gentleman's Age Gender, Presumed country of origin, sexual orientation etc. It is simply the content of o3oBudda's comment that started this chain that I took as something worth mention to the OP as 'lame' and a 'turn off'. Perhaps content is the wrong word.

I have no problem with debating weather competition or arbitrary measures of prowess are attractive or not in a civilized fashion. It was, as you say, the first and last line of comment that started all this that I found rude, offensive, and VERY off-putting. I can only speak for myself, but I would be VERY surprised given conversations I've had with my girlfriends, to find that I was alone in this opinion.

To be fair, I chose the wrong response. instead of calling the Offender specifically on what I found off-putting and offensive. I fought fire with fire and acted no better than the one I was criticizing.

To the others on this thread, for that I apologize.

My point remains. The OP asks what is 'Lame' and a 'turn off' o3oBudda's post is an example of such.

Forgive me, I should have said I have no interest in a guys opinion on this subject... after all I'm commenting, sort of, more like stoking the fire (sorry OP.)