Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Then the protests erupted, and Scott’s mother volunteered to move in
with the boys so they could stay in Wauwatosa. “If they had been in a
Madison school, it wouldn’t have been very nice for them,” she adds.
“They didn’t sign up for this job.”

What exactly was that based on? Does she have any examples of the Madison Metropolitian School District and/or the Madison administrators, teachers and support staff being anything but professional in the way they deal with the children in their district?

To say that the professional staff of the MMSD, who have dedicated their whole lives to making sure ALL kids get a chance in life and a quality education would unequivocally treat her kids any different than anyone else in their classes is beyond the pale.

**Tonette Walker owes an apology to every employee in the Madison School District.**
Also, one last little tidbit from the interview(I read it so you dont have too):

“It makes me sick — and very, very sad. I’ve heard people say that they
still won’t speak to their cousin or that they lost a good friend over
the recall, and it hurts to hear that.”

49 comments:

Tosa East principal disbanded the young democrats and young republican groups while Walker's kids were there. Maybe Tonette can apologize to all the kids at East that were denied this opportunity, as well.

1. That "bomb" united enough people to get Tonette's husband re-elected by a wider margin than before. Maybe you're upset that citizens united against you and the few thousand public workers who remain defiant?

2. Tonette didn't sign Act10. *pause to let that fact sink in* She's speaking like any mother would with regard to protecting her kids from political over-reaction. (Of which you are a core participant.)

I don't want to hear any more bitching about Wing-nuts ripping Greame over his stream of DUI's. Or other complaints about making "politics" personal. Where did the divisiveness begin? Doesn't matter. It's cultivated and rehashed right here!

1. That bomb united 150,000 people to storm the Capitol. A year later $40 million dollars, strong arm knotsie intimidation and a poor candidate allowed him a chance to win a recall. However lets not forget that a million people signed the recall in 60 days!

2. No she did not sign ACT10, she is not speaking to "protect her kids" she is speaking oiut of turn and uninformed...in the same vein as Neil Kedzie. Both show off their incompetence and ignorance in the end.

1. Great! Then the million petitioners can write legislation you favor, right? They can't? Damn! That's almost like one of those "moral victories" then, huh?Meanwhile, the winners continue to have their way. Don't lose wars or elections.

2. I'm frankly shocked to hear YOU complain about "speaking out of turn and uninformed". Is it wise to tarnish your nitche? I leave it to you.

1. Nope, we all know thanks to the republican and walker Wi economy people dont have the money to write legislation and the elected republicans do not have the brainpower so they pass that responsibility on to ALEC.

Uh huh, uh huh, sure. This is as opposed to that rational movement that arose in response to the election of our current president that define themselves by by reason, logic, and rational responses to issues. They're in no way driven by fear, jingoism, visceral hatred, xenophobia, hyperbole, and insistence on an illegitimate presidency. Flawless analysis. I see that we're all in for a little tour through Bizarro world.

"The same kind of losers who would write a divisive blog bemoaning divisiveness."

As opposed to those winners who would eloquently make an anonymous statement of that nature on that very same divisive blog, and then follow it up with an endless stream of inanity.

Yes, we should probably all pretend that your comprehensive and completely impartial list of would be perpetrators of division is where the current political climate resulted from. In no way were any conservative pundits, legislators, or sycophantic commentors divisive in their actions or statements. All of their ideas, policies, and actions were inclusive in nature, meant only to bridge divides and unite the populace. So what if there's a video in this very blog post unequivocally demonstrating that the current Governor (whom I'm guessing you don't include in your little fantasy cabal of "feel first-reason later losers") had a executive agenda that had as it's centerpiece, "Dividing and conquering". So what if he eagerly tripped all over himself to spill his executive agenda to his billionaire, single largest individual campaign contributor. We all know the truth. We remember the hundreds of thousands of protestors that descended on the state capital after the comments of a divisive blogger long before Walker took office. We all know that divisive blog comments have the exact same impact as legislation designed with the expressed intent to divide and conquer. Brilliant analysis.

"When did "people" have the authority to write legislation under Doyle? How much did he charge?"

Ahhh, I see what you did there. That's known as a strawman. I'll try to help you out if I can. See in a representative democracy, the populace elects legislators who in turn represent the interests of their constituency in legislative matters. What has happened, is an infection of money, that has led to legislation allowing an even greater infection of money. This has had the effect of making it so that in order to be elected, potential legislators require large amounts of money. in return for this money for their elections, those same financiers expect access to those politicians to influence legislation that they have a vested financial interest in. At least, that's how it used to work. Now, thanks to groups like ALEC, those financiers sit down and actually write the legislation that those legislators then submit and press to be made into law. No one is arguing that the citizenry should be able to write the laws, just that elected legislators should be legislating on behalf of their constituents, and not out of state, corporate financial interests. It's nice though that you tried to paint it in terms of Doyle (a Democrat) vs. ALEC Republicans. What was it you were you saying about divisiveness again? Nice to see you don't fall into that trap, because that would be hypocritical.

Throughout the entirety of your little puerile screed, you did your best to completely ignore Walker's (and other Republican's) continued role in our current political climate. You steadfastly maintained your tribalistic loyalties, all while hypocritically accusing others of that very same crime. Most astonishingly though, you seem to be claiming that blogging and punditry has the same divisive impact on people's lives as does actual legislation. It doesn't, at all. You can choose to not visit a "divisive blog bemoaning divisiveness." None of us can choose to not be subject to legislation whose expressed purpose is to divide and conquer. No matter how much you want to stuff your head in the sand and pretend reality isn't real, we cannot escape it. Walker divided the constituents of his state, specifically for the purpose of enacting legislation designed by and for, the financiers of his political career. Your senseless ramblings to the contrary only shine a spotlight on your own blindness to reality.

B) Which of us "followed up with an endless stream of inanity"? Brevity. Try it.

C) "Divide and Conquer" was post Act10, was it not?

D) Thanks for the electoral recap. Asking Jeff how a citizen might legislate could be seen as a strawman assertion I suppose, IF it had come out of left field. But seeing as it was a response to his own loose language, Iit fails the straw test. Nice effort though.

E) I NEVER claimed that "blogging and punditry have the same impact on peoples' lives as legislation". The discussion was divisiveness. If we've now switched to impact, I'd agree with your take. Blogs have little "real world" impact. Certainly not this one. Hence, the whining that permeates it daily.

F) Reality? The reality is Act10 and Act14 are popular legislation. But don't take my word for it. April's referendum will illustrate this resoundingly.

Act 14 is so popular that they had to block of any other referendums from the ballot. But oopsie, a lot of Citizens United action going on. Although with the Fraud Department investigating Abele's people, he's got other concerns.

And whether you believe me or not is your issue. Everything I said about Walkergate has borne out. Everything I have said about Abele has born out. If you can't believe your lyin' eyes, take it up with them.

Oh that's right. I forgot about all the imbeciles in tricorn hats, minutemen costumes, and with misspelled signs, waving Tea bags and pictures of George Bush in Nazi regalia and screaming, "taxed enough already" back on tax day '08 and earlier. Wow, do you seriously believe any of your nonsense? Do you remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcvSjKCU_Zo The rant that started it all occurred in Feb '09. The first Tea Party rallies occurred that following April on tax day. Here they are, in their own words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADzXFWcIgk8 Notice all the mentions of the Bush years? Yeah, not so much. Furthermore, the issue wasn't why the Tea Party was formed, but rather that if any group should bear the mantle of, "feel first-reason later losers who define themselves by bitching about elections they've lost" it is undoubtedly them.

"Which of us "followed up with an endless stream of inanity"

Well, considering that you have a dozen or more posts filled with little more than projection, baseless assertions, fantasy, and ad hominems, while refusing to address actual points in any way, I guess we can let readers decide.

"Brevity. Try it"

Thorazine, try it. Delusional disorders are treatable. You'll have to forgive me, I sometimes forget that when dealing with individuals with your particular disorder, it's best to use simple language. I forget the right's penchant for simple slogans over nuanced understanding of issues. I'm sorry. In the future, I'll try to keep my answers short to help you understand. After all, reading isn't for everyone.http://psp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/03/16/0146167212439213.abstract?rss=1

""Divide and Conquer" was post Act10, was it not?"In your Bizarro world I'm sure it was. The video was recorded in January of 2011 as part of the AS Goes Janesville documentary. Walker introduced Act 10 as his Budget Repair Bill on Feb 14th, 2011. In the video he even says, "Well we're gonna start in a couple of weeks with our budget adjustment bill". So no, it was not post Act 10. It was his intent all along, and the reason for Act 10, as stated, by him, to his largest individual campaign contributor. I'm sure you'll convince yourself otherwise though.

"IF it had come out of left field. But seeing as it was a response to his own loose language, Iit fails the straw test."

Ahhh, I see. And here I thought you just completely ignored the point he was making. Instead, opting to pretend he was suggesting people had the authority to write legislation under Doyle. Let's see... http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html Yeah, it pretty much falls exactly into the straw man fallacy actually. How did you phrase it? Oh yeah, "Nice effort though."

"I NEVER claimed that "blogging and punditry have the same impact on peoples' lives as legislation". The discussion was divisiveness. If we've now switched to impact, I'd agree with your take. Blogs have little "real world" impact."

I see. So you agree then, that it is legislation that has the greater impact on people's lives. With that agreed upon, how can you then assert that the divide we're currently experiencing is the result of some list of WISGOP boogiemen, and not the divide and conquer legislation that has substantially impacted the lives of the citizenry? You're conflating partisan with divisive. If blogs have little real world impact, then how can you honestly claim that a blogger can be the cause of divisiveness, while ignoring the governor's legislation that by his own words, was to "divide and conquer"? Walker himself has recently talked about wanting to moderate his agenda and be less divisive going forward. http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/with-state-bitterly-divided-walker-promises-more-moderate-agenda/article_d04276a2-56bc-11e2-a871-0019bb2963f4.html Of course, this is likely bullshit meant to endear him to more moderate voters on a national scale.

"The reality is Act10 and Act14 are popular legislation."

Is that so? How do you define popular? Do you have some actual evidence for that statement that isn't simply anecdotal? Walkers approval ratings dropped to their lowest point in the aftermath of the Act 10 announcement. It prompted protest that drew hundreds of thousands to the state capitol over its course. It prompted a recall election that made Walker the third governor in American history to be recalled. His approval and popularity ratings have since hovered around the 50% mark, the same as Obama's within the state. The reality is, that Act 10 is just as unpopular as it is popular. Furthermore, its popularity is irrelevant as to whether or not it divides. Jim Crow laws were popular, but we wouldn't argue that they didn't divide. Well, those of us that don't live in a fog of tribalist fantasy wouldn't anyway.

Now, I realize this may have also been a bit more reading than you would've preferred, so I'll try to make my closing short, and it'll be my last response on the matter. While you seem to have a slightly more expansive vocabulary than your peers, your tired act is nevertheless identical. We've seen it before. Everything your perceived tribe does is wonderful, everything your perceived opponent does is terrible. I used to think that for most of you, it was just some disingenuous act to avoid giving your perceived opponent any points. Now, I'm not so sure. We see more and more like yourself every day. Some of the outlandish statements you've made really do seem to border on the delusional. I suppose there is a third possibility. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msEarVSaLHo

Where the current divide originated? Wow... you have a very short memory. Tonette tried to provide examples of the way the Madison Metropolitan School District and/or the Madison administrators, teachers and support staff were being anything but professional in the way they dealt with the children in their district, but she was unable to as they were all at the Capitol protesting 'for the kids' :)

Does a Mother "know"... know what ? the future? If so maybe she could play the lottery and make some of that "real money" her husband likes to talk about....

did she know about the Madison School district? Let me see, if we had a media they could ask her and find out...Does she even know who the superintendent is for the district? any teachers? principals? she said she was doing her homework, curious to know what in that homework led to that conclusion?

And you'd think he'd be able to name the store that it happened in, and he'd be so "Unintimidated" he'd call it out and press charges. Unless, of course, he just made the whole thing up to demonize union workers in front of ignorant Confederates. Nah, he wouldn't do that, would he?

Scotty's as "Unintimidated" as the anonymous trolls that don't have the sack to own what they say. Gutless losers.

I can't believe I've spent my time arguing with you today Jeff on something as trivial as Democratic candidates for governor when all the while there's this big Tonette Walker story here. And wow, did you get slammed far worse - yet for the silliest of reasons. If ever there was a person with absolutely zero impact outside her own family... As for Anon 3:15, the bitching about GZ is to be heard from you, Blaska, Widgerson and a litany of wingers whose Twitter pics look somewhat normal but apparently mask psychopathic personalities. The part of him not doing penance is undoubtedly basking in all the winger attention. No other WI Dem can claim anywhere near as much.

Scott Walker, hypocritical government dependent since 1993, has drawn at least $1.5 million in salary, benefits and retirement from the public trough.I doubt that Matt and Alex can even stomach the man, truth be told.