I understand what you are saying about the letter breaks and how it can make the D look like a C... I thought that Ian was seeing the back extension of the R making the D look like a lower case g, my bad for that. But What do you know about smoothness bro... Your pieces never turns out smooth. Maybe that is what you are going for though?

it sure isn't going to turn out smooth when I'm a toy using a ballpoint pen and no preliminary pencil guidelines at all man... and it still turned out decent
whether my pieces are smooth or not is irrelevant. I'm giving you very valid crits, I know the theory, it's irrelevant to you whether I know how to apply them myself or not. Just take the crits and move along without going on the defensive. God knows they were constructive

and lol @ thepekins and stuck, does every butthurt kid come with a couple useless "lol you're a toy" dipshits for free?

Graffiti is an art-form that is guaranteed to come along with haterz bro... Might as well just get used to it... I can't help to hate on people that are horrible... And I can understand why some people hate on my shit too ... And you are right I can not take critz from someone that does not know how to piece... But that is just how I view critz...

mmmmh no. you seem to be quite even. but judging from the dire battle , his placement, letter size is superior...but what do i know.

Last edited by lord_plankton; 11-28-2010 at 09:43 AM.

Originally Posted by Dirty Doug

haha cool u man u win, i give up

Originally Posted by IbuprofenTablets

Plankton's the most successful troll in this section of the forum atm.

Originally Posted by Phat 2

and to make it interesting and entertaining, whoever loses removes everything in his signature and puts the line "I am (winner's name)'s bitch" in bold capital letters instead. and never takes it off, or else gets banned. deal, fag?

I'm pretty sure that Fronco has my vote for the battle when it's time to vote.

I'm lol'n at all the hate and rage over criticism. I don't even see a point of pointing out who's toy and who isn't. For one, look at which thread you're posting in. Two, everyone on here was a toy at one point. So, bashing someone for being new and/or toy is hypocritical and flat out blunt.

haha phat I dont have any beef with you, you have a really good attitude about getting better, but your piece was way toy. we can battle if you want and I would burn you, even though I know im not that great, Im still much better than ya.

here ya go a quick shitty sketch

I dont want sound like self centered prick but seriously, im better than phat, I sketched the dire piece in like 10 minutes right after waking up with a whopper hangover. thats why I said I would battle, like a real battle with effort and colors

are you like that just in graffiti on these forums. or just in general life as well?
why is it so important for you to establish that you're better than me? does it help your ego? if it does man, then sure, why not, I'll tell you that this "thing" you posted there is better than anything I've ever done or ever will do. and then you can be on your way and leave me in peace. innit?

Kringe, may you please explain to me how I lack the structure with my piece and how it's being "overflashiness"? I don't quite understand what you mean by that.

Well, for the structure part, look at the R and E. For example, on the R, the leg comes out of the backbone, when meanwhile it is supposed to come out of the loop. And the top of the loop technically makes it a K. And I don't have a clue what the fuck is up with the E. It's kinda really shitty. And then throughout the entire piece, the consistency of the widths of the bars are off.

The style of all of the letters vary from one to the next.

These are all things that the majority of the forum could pick up on easily but due to the '3d' spin that you put on it, not many people pick up on it. Not many people are used to seeing 3d pieces, and find them hard to crit. Just because it's 3d does not mean that it doesn't have to follow the same basic rules as any other pieces.

My advice to you, is to really study and work on your simples and keyboard letters. Leave the 3d alone. Pick it up in a year or so maybe when you're better.

Alright, I understand where you're coming from now; Kringe. But this was my first attempt to do a 3D piece. I'm personally just experimenting with something new to see what I can do with it. I will keep your criticism in mind and consideration on my next 3D attempt. Thank you for explaining yourself rather then just hating on it. It's much appreciated.

We are the paint breathers...
We bleed colors with our bloody stubs that were our thumbs for the artistic evolution.

yeah, I wanted to give u the same kind of crits as kringe, acrsk. he was right about that.
I would say your experiment with the 3D effect went smooth and was successful. u got the understanding of perspective and depth. that's good that u got it down and that you're able to see things relatively to space. now imo you should work on your letters to make it perfect.

if you haven't checked out Totem's work. I think it's time for you to get some inspiration from that writer. he's dope. I saw u mention u like Daim's stuff...
keep gettin up sir

are you like that just in graffiti on these forums. or just in general life as well?
why is it so important for you to establish that you're better than me? does it help your ego? if it does man, then sure, why not, I'll tell you that this "thing" you posted there is better than anything I've ever done or ever will do. and then you can be on your way and leave me in peace. innit?

haha yes it absolutely does help my ego (and I need that cus Im an insecure teenager on a web forum)
Look i deleted all my bullshit on the last page, sorry everyone who had to read it, except for phat. I just jumped on you when you said your piece was "decent" because it was nothing near decent (and then of course I couldnt let you have the last word because then that means I lost the argument) . notice when I posted mine i said it was "shitty" because it was shitty. I will post my real entry tonight and Im still down to battle you as I've said several times.

but all in all, no beef phat. seriously i dont give a fuck
lets battle though, friendly style

seriously now man. you don't have to get all butthurt about this. I said my entry was decent. as in not great, not good, not shit... just ok (which I think many would agree on that fact keeping in mind what gets posted a lot of times in this and other threads) and we don't have to waste each other's times on battling. If it's that important to you to prove that you're better at piecing than I am, then I told you, I'll admit it and give it to you. really, ure a fresh piecer and very few are the people here or anywhere else that can stand in your way when it comes to graff.
we cool?