On his Fox News program last night, Shepard Smith revealed a conversation he said he had with former New York Senator Alfonse D’Amato in which D’Amato was quoted as saying that the Republican National Committee will change the rules to give Gov. John Kasich a shot at the nomination.

I saw Al D’Amato in the lobby today. Um, Senator Alfonse D’Amato. I saw him down there. And he said they will change the rules. He said, “Shepard, they will change the rules and it will give Kasich a shot.” Now he’s a Kasich supporter. And I told him, I said, “I’m going to quote you on this.” And he goes, “Go right ahead.” They are going to change the rules.

Smith’s guest, Matt Viser, national political reporter for The Boston Globe, countered, “The problem with that, though, is first you alienate a lot of the supporters that Trump has…”

Smith interrupted Viser and stated, “Sure you do. But he said it. He was definitive about it.”