ManateeGag:I'm not against the filibuster, I just think they should have to actually, you know, filibuster.

a proper filibuster to prevent a war or some type of huge social change being steamrolled through without proper consideration is one thing but a filibuster against necessary appointments to help some politicians afraid of being primaried is just stupid.

mrshowrules:ManateeGag: I'm not against the filibuster, I just think they should have to actually, you know, filibuster.

a proper filibuster to prevent a war or some type of huge social change being steamrolled through without proper consideration is one thing but a filibuster against necessary appointments to help some politicians afraid of being primaried is just stupid.

Weaver95:mrshowrules: ManateeGag: I'm not against the filibuster, I just think they should have to actually, you know, filibuster.

a proper filibuster to prevent a war or some type of huge social change being steamrolled through without proper consideration is one thing but a filibuster against necessary appointments to help some politicians afraid of being primaried is just stupid.

It's also a sign that our society is deeply flawed and divided.

No, it's a sign that one political has decided to throw their wrenches in the gears out of spite.

This is what happens when you reduce government to scorecard politics with no referees

You know what? Go right ahead. Block everything. Virtually shut down the government through inaction in between all the times you actually shut down the government by not funding it. The American people apparently wanted this, considering the success of the GOP in 2010.

"Republicans are opposing Millett not because they question her competence or because they think she's ideologically dangerous, but because they say the workload on the appeals court does not require another judge at this point and also because they don't want to tip the court's ideological balance."

Elections have consequences biatches. Are you going to make the same argument if one of the Conservative members of the Supreme Court dies within the next few years?

The Name:You know what? Go right ahead. Block everything. Virtually shut down the government through inaction in between all the times you actually shut down the government by not funding it. The American people apparently wanted this, considering the success of the GOP in 2010.

The GOP as we know it will eventually die. For better or worse, many of the policies they advocate either have fallen or are falling out of vogue. I actually prefer them fighting tooth and nail to hang on to their outdated beliefs, because it reinforces my decision to vote Democrat, and it helps speed up the transition. In short, I'd rather the Bandaid be torn off in one great whoosh, then slowly and painfully.

Tomahawk513:The Name: You know what? Go right ahead. Block everything. Virtually shut down the government through inaction in between all the times you actually shut down the government by not funding it. The American people apparently wanted this, considering the success of the GOP in 2010.

The GOP as we know it will eventually die. For better or worse, many of the policies they advocate either have fallen or are falling out of vogue. I actually prefer them fighting tooth and nail to hang on to their outdated beliefs, because it reinforces my decision to vote Democrat, and it helps speed up the transition. In short, I'd rather the Bandaid be torn off in one great whoosh, then slowly and painfully.

I want slow and painful so the big money givers waste trillions supporting a dying cause.

vernonFL:Why won't Obama appoint the people that Senate Republicans want him to appoint ?

At this point it isn't even about who he appoints, they admit it. Rand Paul insists he won't approve a single nominee until he gets his Fed Reserve audit itch scratched (which is perfect, he knows they can't reveal all of the policy deliberations, so he's intentionally making a request he knows can't be fulfilled, to keep up his crusader image). Lindsay Graham won't approve anyone until Benghazi becomes a scandal.

It's more hostage taking.

Meanwhile...they blocked yet another appointment to head up the regulator for Fannie and Freddie. Because loose regulation of the mortgage industry worked so well the last time around.

That's the game plan - use bs issues like Benghazi and the big bad Federal Reserve as a smokescreen to keep serving the investor class that's raping the economy.

The real abdication of responsibility here is that by presenting such an awful and unreasonable choice, the GOP is enabling the Democrats to turn into utter dicks because the alternative is so distasteful. We need moderates in both parties so that if one party gets out of control, there is an actual, viable alternative. Right now the choice is between far right and center right and that is not good.

He said, "It is my judgment as a United States senator that extraordinary conditions exist" with regard to the Watt and Millett nominations, but he did not explain what made the current circumstances extraordinary.

MFK:The real abdication of responsibility here is that by presenting such an awful and unreasonable choice, the GOP is enabling the Democrats to turn into utter dicks because the alternative is so distasteful. We need moderates in both parties so that if one party gets out of control, there is an actual, viable alternative. Right now the choice is between far right and center right and that is not good.

Democrata utter dicks? Were they utter dicks when they gained the majority and improved the shiat Medicare part D, instead of trying to repeal it 42 times?

The false equivalency has got to stop. The dems do some bad stuff(if you can really compare it to shutting down the government) but the republicans, at all levels of government, are making this country much much worse.

There should be some sort of penalty if, when cloture is finally achieved, an appointee who was filibustered gets approved by 90+ votes in the Senate. I don't know what that penalty should be, but if the person is so clearly qualified, the obstructing party should be penalized for being dicks.

Tomahawk513:The Name: You know what? Go right ahead. Block everything. Virtually shut down the government through inaction in between all the times you actually shut down the government by not funding it. The American people apparently wanted this, considering the success of the GOP in 2010.

The GOP as we know it will eventually die. For better or worse, many of the policies they advocate either have fallen or are falling out of vogue. I actually prefer them fighting tooth and nail to hang on to their outdated beliefs, because it reinforces my decision to vote Democrat, and it helps speed up the transition. In short, I'd rather the Bandaid be torn off in one great whoosh, then slowly and painfully.

I dunno. Seems like they always manage to hang on somehow. Remember how we were saying that Bush had destroyed the party and it was only a matter of time before they died out? Yeah, after that we got the Teabaggers and a GOP House. No matter how bad their policies or rhetoric get, I don't trust the American people to see past their mindless flag-waving and sloganeering about liberty and Free Markets.

I know Reid is trying to be civil (and preserve power for the minority because he's seen the swing in both directions), but that's where he's screwing up. The day the Republicans get control of the Senate is the day the filibuster dies. End it now and get your backlog of crap passed.