Let's take a look at the PoleShift/PlanetX doomsayers, shall we?

Well, John Moore's date has now come and gone, so maybe we should take a look at him first.

John Moore, self appointed expert in all things doom, he has over the past few months been predicting, citing "government sources" and "trusted
friends" that Nibiru was going to swipe by us and cause a huge cataclysm , oh about 2 days ago. John runs a rather impressive webstore, in which he
sells all sorts of implements to help one survive the coming Planet X disaster, and I am sure, makes quite a bit of money off of it.

Now that the date has come and gone, John, while still pointing to the Earth Changes website run by Stan Dayo, has backed away from talking about
Nibiru as much and is now focusing on CME's (Carrington Event) and World War 3 starting in the Middle East as the next disasters to come along, he is
also in his last radio show that was up, purporting to know all about the coming world economic collapse that is supposed to be happening "soon"

Listening to this man, you start to wonder if he's firing on all cylinders. He jumps around a lot, likes to use heavy pauses and heavy breathing into
the mic to get his point across, sounding more like a prophet than a Green Beret. His only purpose it seems is to sell products through his website
and sell seats at seminars on how you too can prepare and survive doom.

Doomsayer Rating: 8

Next up, Nancy Lieder / Zetatalk

Here we have the Queen of Doom, a woman who refuses to allow anyone to question the accuracy of her claims (or the Zetas, it's hard to tell where
Nancy ends and her imaginary Zetas begin) and, well just look at the disclaimer from her site:

No debunking and disruption. Debunking and disruption will lead to suspension.

The existence of Planet X and the truthfulness of ZetaTalk are not debatable.

This ning does not focus on religion or politics, so these types of questions will be declined as a distraction from the issue at hand.

ZetaTalk only. Posting of or discussion regarding material alleged to be channeled or otherwise relayed by entities other than the STO Zetas to
anyone other than Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk.com is not allowed on this site

Does this sound like a woman with an open mind? Let's look at one of nancy's latest bits of wisdom, when it was pointed out that a UFO she claimed
was over the Olympics was actually the Goodyear Blimp...

@Fra What! Have you even LOOKED at that blimp video? Panoramic views? SkyNews takes vids from their chopper! Heavens, people you have to start
thinking! Kick start that brain of yours and stop posting mindless stuff like this, really! Blimp

When in fact this object was clearly the Blimp...

Nancy is never wrong, anyone questioning her or her Zeta accuracy is immediately dismissed, no one is allowed to question her, ever. Hmm......

There's a term for that...... can we say delusional? Anyhow her original date for the total destruction of the Earth was in 2003, that came and went
without incident OMGZ it was a lie by the Zetas to confuse the Powers that Be and now it's 2012 (funny how it became Dec 2012 when everyone started
talking about it)

In a nutshell (pun intended) Nancy Lieder, uses bad astronomy, even worse science and a vivid imagination to convince followers that they can:

1) See Planet X and it's "moons" by putting a floppy insert in front of a camera, as it's only visible in the red spectrum.

2) Take to heart that every single weather incident, earthquake, mudslide, flood is all foretold by the Zeta's in their "scripted drama"

and

3) Anyone who does not believe in Planet X is a "paid disinfo artist" (Where have i heard that before hmm)

IN short, When December comes along and nothing happens again, Nancy will have lost the last bit of credibility her and her Zeta's ever had, if they
ever really had any at all.

Put it this way - thanks to the "Mayan's" alot of people today have their own business and are doing quite well. Now I have said Mayan's in quotations
as that is simple media talk for "these guys predicted the end of the world", and hopefully you'll get what I mean (there's alot more to it than that,
and their calander, as well as many historical interpretations, have been taken way out of hand).

Anywho, the second part of a business idea is people willing to heed their "warning", and those are abundant. So preventing the direct exclusions of
their "theories" on their websites stops their cashflow from drying out.

Having said that, I never rule out a proposed scenario, though I know a scammer when I see one.

I for one as many others got sucked into the mr Moore dates, not sucked in to the point I dug myself and the wife and boys bunker, more amazed and
intrigued that such a bold statement with dates could be made, and if the truth be told I was half expecting something to happen.

I was that intrigued I joined an astronomy forum and asked about planetx or nibiru, I got a simple IT'S A HOAX answer and when I asked more I was
banned for trolling !?!? ( how one can troll your own thread is beyond me but there we go )

Anyway, as lots like of stuff on here it all has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt.

I have been a member here for some 5ish years now, but never log in or post, but all I see is doom gloom and prediction dates come and go, it's
nothing more than scaring people into thinking this tripe is the real deal.

Just say the truth, every single person who claims to have insider info from aliens, channeling, spirit walking,dream contacts, extra demintional
entities, and sells survival stuffs on their site is a shill, lier, cheat, con artist etc...

Every single person who has ever believed any of their crap needs a psych eval, as they obviously were, or are crazy in the literal sense.

How does one hear #e, see #e, smell #e and get talked into believeing they are eating cupcakes?

Another wacko is Lucus who runs the rabbit hole website which is a large collection of untruths. That site is an excellent place to pick up all sorts
of lies including meteorite impacts that never happened.

Not exactly, I didn't name the sites or the people, or give examples of why they are just off the reservation.. this thread is to give people a list
of the nuts out there purporting to know for sure this is happening..

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