WhoopAssWayne:Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

Yes and you should also tell your sons not to be rapists, assholes and bullies. You should be careful, but acknowledging that shouldn't absolve the perpetrators, which is too often something that seems to happen.

WhippingBoy:WhoopAssWayne: Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

You're blaming the victim.

Better that they take no precautions and get raped, then take precautions and have to live with the stigma of having had taken precautions.

I don't think he's blaming the victim. There are animals out there, and its wise to protect one's self. It is still entirely the fault of the animals and they should be thrown off cliffs on to sharp rocks.

Wow... I want to say that I didn't know anyone in high school who would do this... but then I remembered being stuck in a car with a few of them once, when they decided to drive down to the stroll and verbally harass the hookers. Classy. Put a bit of alcohol and feeling of impunity in those guys and god knows what they could do (or, did?).

The Parsons case in Nova Scotia is baffling, because the cops* had PHOTO EVIDENCE of the rape occurring, and never pressed any charges at all. Public outcry has caused them to reopen the case, but that's not going to bring the girl back to life. She died believing that her attackers would never face justice and she would be shamed for ever.

* the Mounties, who apparently "always get their man", unless he's a teenage rapist that is

WhippingBoy:WhoopAssWayne: Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

You're blaming the victim.

Better that they take no precautions and get raped, then take precautions and have to live with the stigma of having had taken precautions.

Well, few women like wearing a burka and never being allowed out in public except when escorted by a male relative, and not being allowed to work or go to school because it might bring them in contact with men who might victimize them, which is exactly where things go when all of responsibility to prevent rape is put on women.

Oddly though, such places are often a whole lot rapier than in countries where men are supposed to take some personal responsibility for not raping every woman in sight every time they see an exposed female ankle.

Shostie:Weaver95: is it just me or did this country suddenly get really weird with little or no warning? I don't remember all this rape and school shootings when I was in grade school.

Did you have access to this volume of information when you were in grade school?

We had these things called "newspapers". The rape and suicide of a school girl is actually something that would have been published.What we didn't have was a million idiots offering their opinion on everything.

Shostie:Weaver95: is it just me or did this country suddenly get really weird with little or no warning? I don't remember all this rape and school shootings when I was in grade school.

Did you have access to this volume of information when you were in grade school?

well yeah, actually. I did. maybe not as easy to access but it was still there.

I just don't remember all the school shootings, teenage rapes and blowing up of various things and stuff going on when I was 15-ish. And before you say it, it's my birthday this weekend, so STFU if I feel old and sound cranky.

WhoopAssWayne:Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

Would you say that if it were you sister? You are farking piece of garbage and I sincerely hope this happens to someone close to you then you can come back and tell us all how it was her fault. Whoopasswayne more like degenerate-scumbag-rape-fan-Wayne people like you are why stuff like this keeps happening. The reason the vast majority of forcible rapes go unreported is because of people like you who will say "well she shouldn't have went drinking alone" and essentially blame her. As long as that is the case more and more "boys" will engage in this behavior because in reality unless some shiat like this happens no one even bothers to notice. If there were justice these guys would be publicly humiliated by a very public detailing of their sexual assault effectively ruining their lives so that when get out after being used in much the same manner as they used this girl they can go live under a bridge in Florida,

We need to make it illegal to record and distribute videos like this. Make the penalties very stiff. Also write in a provision that the girl can waive the penalty for recording if it was done consentually. That way the only way she will have to go to court is if she wants to exonerate someone.

ambercat:WhippingBoy: WhoopAssWayne: Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

You're blaming the victim.

Better that they take no precautions and get raped, then take precautions and have to live with the stigma of having had taken precautions.

Well, few women like wearing a burka and never being allowed out in public except when escorted by a male relative, and not being allowed to work or go to school because it might bring them in contact with men who might victimize them, which is exactly where things go when all of responsibility to prevent rape is put on women.

Oddly though, such places are often a whole lot rapier than in countries where men are supposed to take some personal responsibility for not raping every woman in sight every time they see an exposed female ankle.

Honest question: where does all this fear come from? Do you honestly think we're close to becoming a society where women need a male escort everywhere?

Weaver95:Shostie: Weaver95: is it just me or did this country suddenly get really weird with little or no warning? I don't remember all this rape and school shootings when I was in grade school.

Did you have access to this volume of information when you were in grade school?

well yeah, actually. I did. maybe not as easy to access but it was still there.

I just don't remember all the school shootings, teenage rapes and blowing up of various things and stuff going on when I was 15-ish. And before you say it, it's my birthday this weekend, so STFU if I feel old and sound cranky.

Thing is, a lot of this stuff wouldn't necessarily be national news back in the day.

I suspect it's happening at a similar frequency as before.

Rape would be a difficult thing to track, though. Historically, rape accusations were sort of swept under the rug, I think.

Weaver95:is it just me or did this country suddenly get really weird with little or no warning? I don't remember all this rape and school shootings when I was in grade school.

Oh, we had plenty of it, it's just that no one talked about it.

I remember one case near me that ended in a girl in my sister's class who passed out drunk getting repeatedly raped (basically, stabbed up the vagina) by a handful of boys with a screwdriver so many times the doctors had to remove most of her uterus. Guess how much jail time the perps got? How about none cause they were rich, and apparently 'didn't know what they were doing'. When they went back to school they were triumphantly bragging about what they did, she dropped out rather than face them.

ScaryBottles:WhoopAssWayne: Teenagers are going to drink. You have to tell your daughters to party in packs and never abandon each other in a situation like that.

Would you say that if it were you sister? You are farking piece of garbage and I sincerely hope this happens to someone close to you then you can come back and tell us all how it was her fault. Whoopasswayne more like degenerate-scumbag-rape-fan-Wayne people like you are why stuff like this keeps happening. The reason the vast majority of forcible rapes go unreported is because of people like you who will say "well she shouldn't have went drinking alone" and essentially blame her. As long as that is the case more and more "boys" will engage in this behavior because in reality unless some shiat like this happens no one even bothers to notice. If there were justice these guys would be publicly humiliated by a very public detailing of their sexual assault effectively ruining their lives so that when get out after being used in much the same manner as they used this girl they can go live under a bridge in Florida,

Don't give a shiat worth the potential ban.

Yep. I'd rather my daughter be raped 1000 times than have her take any sort of reasonable precautions for her own safety.

The Snow Dog:We need to make it illegal to record and distribute videos like this. Make the penalties very stiff. Also write in a provision that the girl can waive the penalty for recording if it was done consentually. That way the only way she will have to go to court is if she wants to exonerate someone.

The Snow Dog:We need to make it illegal to record and distribute videos like this. Make the penalties very stiff. Also write in a provision that the girl can waive the penalty for recording if it was done consentually. That way the only way she will have to go to court is if she wants to exonerate someone.

Why is the girl the only one who can waive the penalty? Last I heard, consensual sex takes two to tango.

WhippingBoy: Do you honestly think we're close to becoming a society where women need a male escort everywhere?

i'm a guy and i'm starting to think that *I* need an escort everywhere! yeesh. I mean really...who in the hell would think mass shootings would become a semi-common occurrence in our country? And yet here we are.