I can't say that I believe it, but just imagine if the U.S. (or any other country's) military had the power to cause earthquakes anywhere in the
world. They wouldn't have to fight wars, they'd just have to devastate the country enough to dissuade anyone from attacking or fighting back. No
country in their right mind would engage in war after such physical and economic devastation. All their resources would have to go toward rebuilding.
It really would be one of the best weapons out there, especially since Japan and China are naturally so prone to earthquakes. Nobody would ever
suspect it might have been purposely induced. That's a lot of power to hold in one's grasp. Whether or not HAARP is capable of all it is accused of
doing, most countries would be wise to look into that possibility as a form of defense. Do I think it's ethical? Do I believe it's wise to mess with
the ground beneath our feet? Hell no,... but if such a weapon existed, it would be one of the best ways to hold back progress of millions.

Basically, the IRI is what is known as a phased array transmitter. It is designed to transmit a narrow beam of high power radio signals in the
2.8 to 10 MHz frequency range. Its antenna is built on a gravel pad having dimensions of 1000' x 1200' (about 33 acres). There are 180 towers, 72' in
height mounted on thermopiles spaced 80' apart in a 12 x 15 rectangular grid. Each tower supports near its top, two pairs of crossed dipole antennas,
one for the low band (2.8 to 8.3 MHz), the other for the high band (7 to 10 MHz). The antenna system is surrounded by an exclusion fence to prevent
possible damage to the antenna towers or harm to large animals

There is some fascinating information on that sheet, which is why it deserves its own thread, like did you know the UK's own BEA Systems Advanced
Technology wing is the prime contractor for the design and construction of the IRI? Seems this little project about understanding communications in
space and underwater is more than a DOD/DARPA adventure.

In addition to supporting BAE Systems and its Joint Venture organisations in the achievement of tactical and strategic technology objectives,
the ATC has a vast network of relationships with external organisations including the UK Ministry of Defence, US Department of Defense, European Space
Agency, Universities and other research and product organisations.

These activity programmes involve multi-disciplinary teams drawn from across the ATC and key business units to ensure the technologies and products
developed support current and future business growth. The programmes currently instigated cover areas such as Micro and Nano technologies, Autonomous
Systems, Battlespace Information and Knowledge, BioFutures and Directed Energy Warfare. In addition, an Underpinning Technology programme addressing
generic technologies provides a solid basis for future investment planning.

My point is, while HAARP is interesting stuff, I'm not so sure it's the Tesla-inspired-earthquake-making-machine you think it is....

And if someone would like to play collect the ATS Flag game, you can dig into the universities that have sponsored HAARP and the technologies they've
brought to market from their scientific work done there... then work backwards and you can likely figure out the military applications that spawed the
consumer tech but which we don't know about yet... you know, the DARPA stuff found from HAARP.

And from the fact sheet again, here's all those universities and companies benefiting from HAARP...see what new communications advancements they've
made and what they're selling to the military and consumers (I bet that fancy microwave-crowd-control-gun came from HAARP testing). If you want to get
an idea of what is not publicly known yet... just weaponize the consumer versions of what they're selling these days.

Technical expertise and procurement services as required for the management, administration and evaluation of the program are being provided
cooperatively by the Air Force (Air Force Research Laboratory), the Navy (Office of Naval Research and Naval Research Laboratory), and the Defense
Advanced Research Projects Agency. Since the HAARP facility consists of many individual items of scientific equipment, both large and small, there is
a considerable list of commercial, academic and government organizations which are contributing to the building of the facility by developing
scientific diagnostic instrumentation and by providing guidance in the specification, design and development of the IRI. BAE Advanced Technologies
(BAEAT) is the prime contractor for the design and construction of the IRI. Other organizations which have contributed to the program include the
University of Alaska, Stanford University, Cornell University, University of Massachusetts, UCLA, MIT, Dartmouth University, Clemson University, Penn
State University, University of Tulsa, University of Maryland, SRI International, Northwest Research Associates, Inc., and Geospace, Inc.

Do you really think that because it officially can´t go below 2.8, it really can´t get to 2.5?

Seems like a good alibi for them.

I like good conspiracies. I don't trust the official line on much stuff. But, the US sending earthquakes to Japan for whatever reason just doesn't
work in my head. There are too many uncontrollable, dangerous factors that make me think this post is sheer madness.

And, I do believe it can go to 2.5, but there are so many problems with switching to that frequency that all of Alaska would have known if they
did it... read the Fact Sheet on the many concerns for aircraft/radio/health that were taken into consideration when deciding how to best design and
operate HAARP.

And as a side note - the US is not the only ones with HAARP. Read the fact sheet, it has different names where other countries operate it.

The subject material was explained pretty well, and it was not that hard.

If you aren´t capable of grasping at least the idea behind it, maybe you should tone it down a bit, it makes you look like an ignorant loudmouth.

Perhaps i do. But again, you look like a paranoid with too much time on his hands and a great wish to blame natural disasters on someone, anyone.
And of course the favorite target being the US.

Honestly Jason88 makes the most sense of anyone here and explained his doubts with good links, not obscure, unheard of news sources.

And dont kid yourself, unless you are both an expert on electronics and a geophysicist, you truely dont grasp it either. It took scientists much
smarter than both you and I to figure this stuff out. If you think you understand it after reading a few articles, your delusional as
well.

I relate this HAARP garbage back to Regan's Star Wars and the Cold War. What Star Wars essentially did was convince the Russians that we did indeed
have a space based mechanism to counter any ICBM launch, and many simultaneously though the system was never proven to have the capability to preform
AS ADVERTISED. You see having a super defense or a super weapon it is in your best interest TO PUBLICIZE it relentlessly, so all of your foes are
aware of it.

So if HAARP has this theoretical power to send ELF waves or whatever the claim is around the world (which is curved last I checked, like a sphere) and
pinpoint some ridiculously intense wave back to the ground, though miles of ocean, and strike a fault with force needed to create a tsunami resulting
earthquake then this power would be set up on the highest media platform for all to awe at.

Perhaps i do. But again, you look like a paranoid with too much time on his hands and a great wish to blame natural disasters on someone, anyone. And
of course the favorite target being the US.

Not perhaps, you sure do. you came in here insulting people for believing, or even talking about the OP, while you admittedly didn´t have the
capability to even grasp the OP.

Now you judge me, attributing things to me I didn´t even remotely post or imply anywhere in this thread.

My description of you seems pretty accurate.

And dont kid yourself, unless you are both an expert on electronics and a geophysicist, you truely dont grasp it either. It took scientists much
smarter than both you and I to figure this stuff out. If you think you understand it after reading a few articles, your delusional as well.

I guess this haarp stuff would be so much better understood if the people posting and reading actually understood what the real science was behind the
technology and what it is really capable of doing and NOT doing.
Haarp does things, yes, but it isnt capable of doing what it's being blamed for.
I'm not saying there isnt ways to create havoc or shake the earth but haarp is not one of the ways.
Haarp is getting too much attention for what it really cannot do, and there's no way to clear the air on it other than for people to read and study
the science behind the mechanics.

In short, if haarp was the tool worthy of the accusations, the entire globe would know when it was being used just by the sound it would make. This is
hype.
read...study...learn.(and no I'm not being a smartass).

As much as I hate to rain upon the parade or brillance known as ATS, would it not be logical to assume that if HAARP did create the Japanease
earthquake that the friggin Japanease, who created most of todays technology, would have figured it out long before you guys did and somehow mention
it in a press release?

In short, if haarp was the tool worthy of the accusations, the entire globe would know when it was being used just by the sound it would make. This is
hype. read...study...learn.(and no I'm not being a smartass)

Originally posted by seagull
If it's a warning to not rock the boat, killing umpteen thousand people in Haiti, Indonesia, and Japan, not to mention any where else catastrophic
events take place seem, to me anyway, counterproductive...

Not if there are ulterior motives other than
financial and economic for Haiti and
Indonesia.

An earthquakes causing devastation
and floods wiping out entire villages
makes a perfect excuse for missing
children entering the world wide
slave trade. Less than half the bodies
of such devastation would be found.

Also, the price of black market slaves
have hit an all time low since Haiti
and Indonesia. $90.00 can buy you
a Haiti slave on the market.

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