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[14:40:19] Hello Navit people!
[14:44:18] I would like to Navit on Carminat Tomtom GPS (included in a Renault car) to replace the old tomtom system. I am having difficulties to find info about running Navit on this platform.
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[17:00:34] hi there
[17:02:20] 03mike> Hello kazer
[17:02:24] 03mike> Whats up
[17:15:17] hi Mike! did you get your device to get a fix? or are you still waiting on gltt?
[17:15:33] 03mike> Still waiting
[17:16:04] 03mike> Waiting for jkoan to be free and work on it 😂
[17:17:41] ok let's see if we can get gltt by ourselves :)
[17:17:55] 03mike> You sure?
[17:18:08] did you flash your tomtom device using a different image? or do you still have the original firmware?
[17:18:18] yeah it's not as complicated as it sounds
[17:18:32] the only issue is that we can't redistribute that file as it's a binary blob from Tomtom
[17:18:45] 03mike> I just added 2 files.
[17:18:54] 03mike> Open tomtom and sone other files
[17:19:34] ok. Are you running windows or linux on your desktop machine?
[17:20:10] 03mike> Windows 8.1
[17:20:15] ok
[17:20:50] from https://github.com/navit-gps/NavitTom#how-to-install-gltt-from-tomtom-ttsystem-file-for-navit : 'Copy your TomTom™ ttsystem file into ...'
[17:20:53] do you have that file?
[17:22:22] 03mike> I guess yeah
[17:24:27] 03mike> An opentom folder and a file called ttsystem
[17:26:32] 03mike> Lemme show you somethint
[17:27:34] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573561229327466516/20190502_222645.jpg
[17:27:50] 03mike> When i click the corner menu and select navit from applications i see this message
[17:27:54] 03mike> Is it normal?
[17:31:45] yeah i think that we just need to start it
[17:32:15] i'm not sure how easy it would be to follow the procedure i linked on windows, but if you share your ttsystem file i can do it for you
[17:33:12] 03mike> Ok
[17:34:40] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573563016876916738/ttsystem
[17:39:28] ok let's see
[17:41:58] 03mike> and one more thing
[17:42:12] 03mike> about NMEA data
[17:42:34] 03mike> it shows in Demo not in not in tomtom Go
[17:52:58] yeah without gltt running it makes sense. we should be able to get this running today
[17:54:01] 03mike> really?
[17:55:46] yeah i think so. you're really close
[17:57:39] ok bad news, gltt isn't in your initramfs as expected. let's see
[17:58:05] what exact tomtom model do you have?
[18:00:45] 03mike> Lemme check
[18:01:37] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573569798659637268/20190502_230058.jpg
[18:01:44] also when you connect your tomtom device to your windows machine, does it give you access to a volume in the file explorer?
[18:01:53] 03mike> Yes
[18:02:00] 03mike> like an storage device
[18:02:02] 03mike> 1GB
[18:03:05] ok. can you share a screenshot of what's available there?
[18:03:31] 1EX00 is Tomtom Ease it seems. i don't think we ever tested this one
[18:03:47] 03mike> Tomtom Start
[18:04:26] ha, maybe they use different branding depending on the country
[18:07:33] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573571295233441832/Screenshot_260.png
[18:08:44] ok good. what's in `bin`?
[18:10:13] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573571966192058408/Pic.png
[18:11:52] hey there's a gltt there :)
[18:12:02] 03mike> whats that
[18:12:18] that's the thing we need to start to get access to the nmea data
[18:12:37] (probably)
[18:12:47] 03mike> 😄
[18:13:08] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573572697125289986/gltt
[18:20:02] cool. i'm trying to compile ttconsole so that we can run commands on your device
[18:22:05] 03mike> can we do that?
[18:27:59] the source code is available, but the toolchain is a bit old an i couldn't find an available binary
[18:28:09] jkoan probably has one
[18:29:11] 03mike> is jkoan on?
[18:31:38] probably not right now as i'm sure he would have stepped into the discussion :)
[18:31:49] do you have bluetooth on your device and your computer?
[18:32:11] 03mike> I have it on my computer bot device has no bluetooth
[18:34:45] ok. we could try this maybe : http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/ttos.html
[18:36:06] i think that you just need to put that on a sd card and reboot your tomtom
[18:36:32] (extract the content of the zip file to a memory card i mean, not put the zip file itself there)
[18:37:45] 03mike> The device doesnt support a memory card
[18:38:03] 03mike> Dont have memory card slot
[18:38:38] crap
[18:38:57] 03mike> What happens with that
[18:40:21] oh! found a binary
[18:40:46] https://web.archive.org/web/20130113124917if_/http://www-cip.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hoffmann/TTconsole/TTconsole-1.14-bin.zip
[18:42:35] 03mike> Put that in the device?
[18:43:26] yeah, probably in bin
[18:43:37] do you have an application menu on your device?
[18:44:08] 03mike> How?
[18:44:40] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573580632538742787/20190502_234407.jpg
[18:44:41] 03mike> That thing in the corner?
[18:45:17] do you start navit manually? or does it start when you boot the device?
[18:45:27] 03mike> It auto starts
[18:45:46] 03mike> When i turn device on navit starts
[18:46:01] ok we can try to replace that via the ttconsole app then let's see.
[18:46:14] 03mike> Ok
[18:46:29] how did you install navit?
[18:46:57] 03mike> Just added the file in device
[18:47:23] which file exactly? we have two versions
[18:50:58] 03mike> how to check
[18:51:04] 03mike> File is Opentom.tar.gz
[18:51:32] 03mike> then opentom-extra.tar.gz
[18:54:26] 03mike> can i send you the link of that file?
[18:54:50] do you remember where you downloaded it from?
[18:55:54] 03mike> i have the link
[18:55:59] perfect
[18:56:05] 03mike> show you?
[18:56:10] yes please
[18:56:13] 03mike> https://24-95345098-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/home/ubuntu/NavitTom/target/opentom.tar.gz
[18:56:16] ha ok
[18:56:33] 03mike> and extra one from here
[18:56:34] 03mike> https://53-95345098-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/root/project/target/opentom-extra.tar.gz
[19:02:45] 03mike> Ok done
[19:02:50] 03mike> Added files in device
[19:03:30] ok here's now navit is started on your device and how you get that gltt message : https://github.com/navit-gps/NavitTom/blob/master/src/opentom_skel/bin/navit.sh
[19:04:58] 03mike> Restart navit?
[19:05:35] i think that we could use that for some debugging let's see
[19:05:54] can you try to locate that navit.sh file while i look at the code?
[19:06:11] probably in opentom/bin
[19:06:18] 03mike> lemme check
[19:06:55] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573586236250521600/navit.sh
[19:07:00] 03mike> Yes here it is
[19:07:23] ok perfect
[19:09:40] try replacing it with that script : https://gist.github.com/pgrandin/4dee182150fbe92eb89434a06c3ca581
[19:09:46] and reboot your device
[19:10:55] 03mike> replace the text?
[19:11:19] yes
[19:11:41] 03mike> i cant open that file
[19:13:20] 03mike> Can you edit the text in it please!!!
[19:15:37] erm
[19:15:55] which file are you unable to open?
[19:16:12] we want to put the script i shared in place of the one that's one your device right now
[19:16:13] 03mike> i can open it. but i can not compile it without errors
[19:16:20] compile?
[19:16:20] 03mike> navit.sh
[19:16:28] 03mike> i mean save it
[19:16:43] on your device?
[19:16:51] 03mike> Yes
[19:17:12] that's odd. does it have a readonly flag or something like that if you look in the properties of the file?
[19:17:58] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573589014914007067/ss221.png
[19:18:04] 03mike> Replace this all?
[19:18:16] 03mike> from top to bottom?
[19:18:43] ok let's try like this : download https://gist.githubusercontent.com/pgrandin/4dee182150fbe92eb89434a06c3ca581/raw/13c82fb4e0df6003ee244ddd98730fd93923cd5a/navit.sh
[19:18:49] and copy it on top of the existing file
[19:20:27] 03mike> Ok done
[19:22:38] 03mike> restarted device
[19:22:40] ok. let's see what happens
[19:22:54] 03mike> device is on
[19:23:59] 03mike> Does nothing
[19:24:10] 03mike> The main green screen is on
[19:24:18] you don't even get the gltt warning as you did before?
[19:24:56] 03mike> i click navit it says barcelona gpstype warning
[19:25:00] 03mike> inside it written 130
[19:25:35] ok that's what we were looking for
[19:25:38] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573590944847364097/20190503_002134.jpg
[19:26:25] so this is indeed different from what we've tested navit on so far, but with this info we will be able to make the image compatible with your device out of the box for other users too
[19:27:05] 03mike> So its not supported for my device yet?
[19:27:31] 03mike> when i select tomtom navigation i get this
[19:28:11] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573591587192569916/20190502_222645.jpg
[19:31:41] we just need to find what device path to use to access the gps
[19:32:37] try this script : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/pgrandin/4dee182150fbe92eb89434a06c3ca581/raw/243b62b3794b5aaeb3623811edccf5a21bd82465/navit.sh
[19:34:39] so navit does not start at boot, but you are able to start it after right? how are you starting it?
[19:35:12] 03mike> It starts itself. when i start the device i see a tomtom logo then navit starts
[19:35:16] 03mike> i do not start it myself
[19:35:28] 03mike> it boots up itself
[19:35:53] so you boot the device, you get the gltt warning everytime, and then navit starts?
[19:36:20] 03mike> I boot the device there is no warning nothing
[19:36:29] 03mike> it just start to the green screen
[19:36:46] 03mike> When i select menu>application>navit
[19:36:49] 03mike> then i get the warning
[19:37:04] 03mike> when i try to start navigation
[19:38:51] ha ok. that's good to know. so you had to also poke the menus to get this new message about the barcelona gpstype right?
[19:39:08] 03mike> Yes
[19:39:25] 03mike> I had to hold the small menu icon on corner select application and navit
[19:39:30] ok. we can still use that to troubleshoot for now, and we'll have to find the right one at some point
[19:39:50] 03mike> Now the navigation doesnt show map
[19:40:01] it also means that you might not need to reboot the device after updating the script, just do that same thing with the menu
[19:40:05] did you update the script?
[19:40:13] 03mike> Yes
[19:40:31] 03mike> no when i update the script the device is in like debug mode
[19:40:32] ok. so you should have a `devices.txt` file at the root of your volume now
[19:40:38] 03mike> like off but USB mod with PC
[19:40:43] oh ok
[19:41:04] 03mike> So when i unplug the USB the device auto restarts
[19:41:11] ok that'll work too
[19:41:22] let's have a look at what's in devices.txt
[19:42:28] 03mike> its empty
[19:42:37] 03mike> 0 bite
[19:43:38] 03mike> and the txt file is blank
[19:44:18] > small menu icon on corner select application and navit
[19:44:34] do you have tools / system / ttconsole there?
[19:44:58] 03mike> i had that before let me check now
[19:45:19] 03mike> Yes i have it
[19:45:25] 03mike> But selecting it does nothing
[19:45:35] ok. you probably need to install the package
[19:45:37] 03mike> before i selected it and CMD window opened
[19:45:48] 03mike> Before the updates today
[19:46:29] 03mike> 2 days ago i checked ttconsole and it was CMD type window.
[19:46:43] ok that's exactly what we need to make troubleshooting easier
[19:46:52] what updates did you do today?
[19:47:08] 03mike> the ones we did both
[19:47:21] 03mike> the navit.sh
[19:47:26] 03mike> and the files from ttconsole
[19:47:51] ok. can you try reinstalling opentom and opentom extra? it should overwrite whatever we broke
[19:48:23] 03mike> Ok
[19:54:28] 03mike> Done
[19:55:24] is the console working now?
[19:57:31] 03mike> Haha
[19:57:32] 03mike> No
[19:58:05] 03mike> I select TTconsole the screen blinks
[19:58:09] 03mike> and nothing happens
[19:58:21] crap. do you have anything important on that storage?
[19:58:31] if not we could format it and start over
[19:58:48] 03mike> Nothing important in it
[19:59:01] 03mike> but i guess it has its original Tomtom OS installed in it
[20:00:27] you could start by copying everything to your computer
[20:00:51] but i'd expect the original tomtom OS file to be also stored in an internal memory that you don't have access too
[20:01:14] 03mike> its the internal storage caus it doesnt have a card slot
[20:01:36] 03mike> and i already made a backup of that storage before installing navit in it before
[20:01:53] there's usually 2 different internal storage, one that's exposed (like the one you are working on) and one that's hidden (where the system actually reads runtime applications from)
[20:01:54] 03mike> a fresh backup
[20:01:59] ok
[20:03:33] 03mike> before we do that let me try one thing
[20:03:51] 03mike> remove the last files from ttconsole you sent earlier
[20:04:52] ok
[20:04:58] also from the gps init script : mkdir -p ${sdcard}/gl/log
[20:05:10] what do you have in the gl folder? any logs there?
[20:05:47] i'm kind of expecting " echo "error determining rftype for gpstype $gpstype""
[20:05:55] with gpstype == 130
[20:13:02] 03mike> Navit.log?
[20:13:38] no, i'd expect a log folder inside the gl folder at the root of your device
[20:13:42] and maybe some logs in there
[20:14:18] 03mike> There is a log dolfer in gl
[20:14:29] 03mike> Glecho.txt file in it
[20:15:06] ok. what do we have in that file?
[20:16:05] 03mike> Its huge
[20:17:20] you could delete it and restart your device
[20:17:27] it would give us the logs for just one boot
[20:17:34] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573604012906119178/20190503_011602.jpg
[20:17:35] 03mike> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500190750085087235/573604012906119179/20190503_011651.jpg
[20:17:37] 03mike> Ok
[20:19:07] 03mike> Done
[20:19:18] i see that you opened the file from your gps : you should be able to access it from windows too
[20:19:26] it will make it easier to share it ;)
[20:21:01] 03mike> Haha
[20:21:06] 03mike> There is nothing
[20:21:15] 03mike> Log File is empty
[20:22:38] ok no big deal
[20:22:50] 03mike> Everytime i connect it to pc i have to restart the device so when it shuts down and restarts with the tomtom logo then pc detects it when it is running pc wont detect it
[20:23:11] 03mike> Thats why i try to save it from restarting ;)
[20:24:11] no problem. If we get access back to ttconsole we can troubleshoot it
[20:24:15] time to format?
[20:24:47] 03mike> Alright
[20:25:04] 03mike> Lets do it
[20:56:43] let me know when you'll get console access back
[21:10:15] 03mike> I cant
[21:10:23] 03mike> I cant do anything
[21:13:17] 03mike> No response from the device
[21:17:41] after formatting?
[21:44:33] FYI i found a cheap unit on ebay and i ordered it. Seems to match your hardware. i should receive it next week
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