The only range I can bring my own ammo to that isn't hours away is a Sheriffs range. It's an awesome place, but they don't allow steel core or amor piercing. Stupid because it's outdoors with a grass/dirt backstop, but whatever.

Black Hills BB 55gr FMJ is what I use for plinking most often. In my rifles, it is pretty accurate. I tried UMC but it didn't shoot that good. I also use WWB, but I won't buy it anymore until the prices of the other ammo I use go up.

Originally Posted By michealj:I tried UMC but it didn't shoot that good.

Tell me more about this please.

I just didn't think it was accurate enough for my rifles. I don't mind 1.5-2 MOA plinking ammo, but I couldn't get anything under 3 MOA in any of my AR's. I have a Savage 10FP in .223 that shoots .25-.5 MOA with almost anything, but the UMC 55gr FMJ would only do 2-2.5 MOA if I really tried.

I gave the last hundred rounds I had to a friend and his Colt was putting great groups on paper, so I think the issue was my rifles just didn't shoot it very well.

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:How harsh is Wolf on the chamber? That's the only thing I'm worried about. I've yet to try it in my gun.

The cases are soft steel, polymer coated. I can't see that the polymer coating comes off upon firing. This would suggest that steel doesn't really touch steel. I suppose there may be some contact by the extractor...???....but I haven't broken one yet. Since I'm saving around $70/case by using Wolf I figure I can afford to replace an extractor or two.

Anyway, I'm on my 8th case. Coupla hours ago dumped 210 rds through an 11.5. As always, zero problems of any kind. And I have yet to damage anything other than the first inch or so of rifling.

Before you buy in bulk just see if you can run a few mags through your gun. B/C it's underpowered there is the possiblity your gun won't cycle the stuff. Only one way to find out. FWIW, the stuff cycles all of my uppers, but would not reliably cycle a friends LMG upper. To be fair the LMG was brand-spankin' new.

I use Canned Heat when I actually want to hit something. It is really, really good ammo. IMHO it is some of the best 55gr ammo available, but we need to keep it a secret -don't want anyone else buying it, they have already increased the price 2X in the past few months.

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I use Canned Heat when I actually want to hit something. It is really, really good ammo. IMHO it is some of the best 55gr ammo available, but we need to keep it a secret -don't want anyone else buying it, they have already increased the price 2X in the past few months.

I have been on the fence about Olympic until this weekend. Had 90 rounds loaded in 3 mags. The rest was Wolf. I had one round of Olympic stick in the chamber and had to force it out with the cleaning rod. Then my wife was shooting and I heard a small pop. She handed the weapon to me for inspection and there was a round stuck halfway in the chamber. I pulled it out and looked at it, and the primer was in sideways... and somehow it ignited when the firing pin struck it, but didn't ignite the powder.... The wolf (600 rounds) went off without a hitch. I don't think I'll waste my money on Olympic again, that was the last 90 rounds I had, good ridance...........

I use Wolf steel case 62 grain, and have not had one problem. Wait, unless getting lectured everytime I go to the range about how it's bad for my weapon, and how the powder stinks, and how much money I'd save if I reloaded, those are my only problems with Wolf. I am going to start reloading though, just have to clean my basement.

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:How harsh is Wolf on the chamber? That's the only thing I'm worried about. I've yet to try it in my gun.

The cases are soft steel, polymer coated. I can't see that the polymer coating comes off upon firing. This would suggest that steel doesn't really touch steel. I suppose there may be some contact by the extractor...???....but I haven't broken one yet. Since I'm saving around $70/case by using Wolf I figure I can afford to replace an extractor or two.

Anyway, I'm on my 8th case. Coupla hours ago dumped 210 rds through an 11.5. As always, zero problems of any kind. And I have yet to damage anything other than the first inch or so of rifling.

Before you buy in bulk just see if you can run a few mags through your gun. B/C it's underpowered there is the possiblity your gun won't cycle the stuff. Only one way to find out. FWIW, the stuff cycles all of my uppers, but would not reliably cycle a friends LMG upper. To be fair the LMG was brand-spankin' new.

Sam

Sam, can you email me through here about that issue? I just bought a Stag Model 4 (20" A3) and it fails to eject the casing (bolt stops after moving back .25" from its closed position). Not sure if that's the issue that you had, but will that go away in time so I can use Wolf again? (my Bushmaster M4 eats Wolf and no issues).

Originally Posted By Samuel_Hoggson:The cases are soft steel, polymer coated. I can't see that the polymer coating comes off upon firing. This would suggest that steel doesn't really touch steel. I suppose there may be some contact by the extractor

Sam

Just fired about 600rds this weekend (the same upper has fired about 4K of Wolf polymer already). Well, I have notice some problem:

1. The polymer coating does come off and built-up a nice coating in the chamber. I went home and have to really scrub the coating off using chamber brush.

2. Some of the Wolf steel case head does not have the rim cut properly, thus causing some FTE (the rim is cutted too thin and extractor will rip the rim off, causing FTE) This I have not experience before. The ammo I shoot during the weekend was one of the older lot 55gr ammo I got from my friend. I buy and shoot the 62gr stuff most of the time for now, and those works okay.

For plinking I can live with Wolf. If I am going to do some serious shooting (i.e. taking class) I will use GA canned heat. The gun I use are Bushmaster M4, 14.5 with pinned Phantom.

Originally Posted By CWM4A1:1. The polymer coating does come off and built-up a nice coating in the chamber. I went home and have to really scrub the coating off using chamber brush.

2. Some of the Wolf steel case head does not have the rim cut properly, thus causing some FTE (the rim is cutted too thin and extractor will rip the rim off, causing FTE) This I have not experience before. The ammo I shoot during the weekend was one of the older lot 55gr ammo I got from my friend. I buy and shoot the 62gr stuff most of the time for now, and those works okay.

Are you absolutely certain.......beyond any doubt..........that the "older" ammo was not lacquer coated? I have to ask b/c this stuff is notorious for building up crud in the chambers and causing difficulty with extraction. I have not had any build up in any of my chambers (all are Colt). I run a coupla 11.5s, a 14.5, an A1 20, and an A2 20 regularly. Zero buildup with Poly. And, again, I'm not seeing any scuffing of ejected cases. The chambers do get blackened by soot (primer/powder residue), but have not required scrubbing. Am on my 8th case.