Yahweh is not male or female, the BS from the patriarchy is a reflection of the times and language. In French and German to this very day all those inanimate objects with a grammatical gender are also not an indication of patriarchy. Even when saying God, the Father Christians should not attribute any gender to this.

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Jesus is male, this is a given.

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The Holy Spirit is not male or female and whenever someone tries to attribute a gender, then God here is mostly seen as female, just as incorrectly as attributing a gender to Yahweh.

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Allah is not male or female.

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The Prophet is male, this a given.

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The Buddha has been male and female

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Brahman is genderless

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Many other Hindu Gods are androgynous

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Sure, the practice of religions, especially in the leadership roles, has and is, like so many other aspects of life, sexist.

You can be an atheist and also be channeling the God consciousness. You can be a theist and be channeling/serving evil. Whatever energy you tap into and are receptive to is inconsequential to your religious/spiritual belief.

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Care to elaborate?

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What is "God consciousness"?

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Channeling of the higher source into the world through ourselves.
In Islam the belief that to channel God into the world is through "Taqwa" and that through obedience to religious doctrine you can serve God.

The belief of such is found throughout many spiritual belief systems.

You can also be an atheist and have integrity.

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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.

Yahweh is not male or female, the BS from the patriarchy is a reflection of the times and language. In French and German to this very day all those inanimate objects with a grammatical gender are also not an indication of patriarchy. Even when saying God, the Father Christians should not attribute any gender to this.

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Jesus is male, this is a given.

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The Holy Spirit is not male or female and whenever someone tries to attribute a gender, then God here is mostly seen as female, just as incorrectly as attributing a gender to Yahweh.

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Allah is not male or female.

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The Prophet is male, this a given.

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The Buddha has been male and female

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Brahman is genderless

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Many other Hindu Gods are androgynous

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Sure, the practice of religions, especially in the leadership roles, has and is, like so many other aspects of life, sexist.

What about Thor and his massive hammer?

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Are we talking Marvel Universe? There is substantial sexism in this as well!

Channeling of the higher source into the world through ourselves. In Islam the belief that to channel God into the world is through "Taqwa" and that through obedience to religious doctrine you can serve God. The belief of such is found throughout many spiritual belief systems. You can also be an atheist and have integrity. . [Edited 10/6/17 17:49pm]

So you are saying..for example when I accidentally ran into someone with my car, a close friend of mine who just so happened to be a preacher was standing right at the corner and comforted me and the man who I hit...just 'by conincidence' or do things like this only strengthen that there is some type of things that we may not be able to grasp of this 'god conciousness'?

See these are conversations that I can't have with athiests.

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toejam said: Channeling of the higher source into the world through ourselves. In Islam the belief that to channel God into the world is through "Taqwa" and that through obedience to religious doctrine you can serve God. The belief of such is found throughout many spiritual belief systems. You can also be an atheist and have integrity. . [Edited 10/6/17 17:49pm]

So you are saying..for example when I accidentally ran into someone with my car, a close friend of mine who just so happened to be a preacher was standing right at the corner and comforted me and the man who I hit...just 'by conincidence' or do things like this only strengthen that there is some type of things that we may not be able to grasp of this 'god conciousness'?

See these are conversations that I can't have with athiests.

It would have been a very nice coincidence for Hitler's dad to shoot his load containing Adolf into the sink the night he impregnated Adolf's mother too, right? In other words: believers in spiritual metaphysics can't have their cake and eat it too. Either those mysterious forces which govern or effect temporality, causality, and reality are capricious assholes, or, you must recognize that there is such a thing as fortunate and unfortunate events which essentially de-pends upon the participant(s) involved in those events.

Your argument implies that purpose and teleology are intrinsic constituents of reality, yet thereis nothing which reveals this to be the case, at least in physics at this very moment. Think aboutit: do you really believe the man you hit with your car was comforted by your framing of whatoccurred to him?: "Well, there had to be a reason that I hit you with my car. And, be thankful that a preacher, instead of a doctor or nurse, was present nearby to offer aid during this emer-gency."

C'mon, Paisley - what you're saying here is short-sighted spiritual mumbo-jumbo. It's poetic,and lyrical, but it doesn't make any sense and doesn't take into consideration how others viewthe same event you've participated in.

Hell, I'd be more impressed if Paisley's narrative included the fact that Paisley hit the man neara hospital's emergency rooom, or, if the actions that resulted in Paisley hitting the man witha car actually resulted in Paisley not hitting the man with the car. Otherwise, Paisley striking theman with a car with a pastor nearby is not enough to justify a "god consciousness" existing in the world that is regulatory in some form or fashion.

[God consciousness is] Channeling of the higher source into the world through ourselves. In Islam the belief that to channel God into the world is through "Taqwa" and that through obedience to religious doctrine you can serve God. The belief of such is found throughout many spiritual belief systems. You can also be an atheist and have integrity.

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Are you suggesting that having integrity is consistent with having "God consciousness"?

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Atheists don't believe in a "higher source" - at least not a theistic one. Unlike Muslims, atheists don't care to serve God because we don't see that he is there to serve. Personally, I think Allah is a superstition.

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I guess I'm still lost on what you're saying "God consciousness" is, and what it means to have it... Seems a kind of fuzzy term to me...

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How is "God consciousness" different, for example, from "regular human consciousness"?

Hell, I'd be more impressed if Paisley's narrative included the fact that Paisley hit the man neara hospital's emergency rooom, or, if the actions that resulted in Paisley hitting the man witha car actually resulted in Paisley not hitting the man with the car. Otherwise, Paisley striking theman with a car with a pastor nearby is not enough to justify a "god consciousness" existing in the world that is regulatory in some form or fashion.

I see what you guys mean. That's exactly it "it doesnt make any sense" because you think rationally; which yes I get it. However, in my life if I were to look over odd things that happened in my life as just a cowiky-dink then what's the point of even living. I only provided one example however I have dozens of them.

I'm only accepting the fact that there is wisdom and knowledge beyond what I now as of now and always open to the opprotunity to learn and experience more than what is just served under a microscope. Both exist on the same place. You can't have one without the other. You have to believe science, you have to believe spirituality...TO ME at least. Both have their natural place in the human experience.

We believe things because or conciousness allows us to do such a thing, or else we would just be vegetables.

What's the scientific conundrum that explains how a human being channels their conciousness to create art, science and music? Answer: ......

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What's the scientific conundrum that explains how a human being channels their conciousness to create art, science and music? Answer: ......

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Evolutionary biology can help explain why we have those abilities.

A person like Prince, who brought all of us here to even have this discission was a firm believer in there being more to life than what we only see and he was always a believer of both processes of life. Some of his last studies included astrology and the spiritual practice of the third eye.

If you don't feel a connection with Prince's music outside of scientific biology, then you might never know Prince at all.

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I think Prince's religious and "spiritual" beliefs were largely superstitious, I hate to say.

In the five or six years we've been arguing, this is one of the few times I can say I totally agree with you.

Prince's religious and spiritual beliefs can be attributed, in some part, to his premature death. Thatbeing said, I didn't know him personally and I am sure his religious and spiritual beliefs possibly up-held him at some points during his life too, including those moments when he was in the throes ofhis substance use issues.

Hell, I'd be more impressed if Paisley's narrative included the fact that Paisley hit the man neara hospital's emergency rooom, or, if the actions that resulted in Paisley hitting the man witha car actually resulted in Paisley not hitting the man with the car. Otherwise, Paisley striking theman with a car with a pastor nearby is not enough to justify a "god consciousness" existing in the world that is regulatory in some form or fashion.

I see what you guys mean. That's exactly it "it doesnt make any sense" because you think rationally; which yes I get it. However, in my life if I were to look over odd things that happened in my life as just a cowiky-dink then what's the point of even living. I only provided one example however I have dozens of them.

I'm only accepting the fact that there is wisdom and knowledge beyond what I now as of now and always open to the opprotunity to learn and experience more than what is just served under a microscope. Both exist on the same place. You can't have one without the other. You have to believe science, you have to believe spirituality...TO ME at least. Both have their natural place in the human experience.

We believe things because or conciousness allows us to do such a thing, or else we would just be vegetables.

What's the scientific conundrum that explains how a human being channels their conciousness to create art, science and music? Answer: ......

Overlooking your use of the word "believe" which can muddy things epistemologically, yes, I doagree with you here.