If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Sloan has a lot to account for, for sure, but responsible for caging children? His responses to that and the Montana pipeline questions are priceless.

Sorry Dems. She's the class clown who doesn't realize others are not laughing with her, they're laughing at her.

AOC's level of influence is only possible because of MSM.

I almost feel like they're setting her up for a fall, maybe part of some strategy to discredit the far left of the party. Part of me hopes that's what we're seeing but I doubt it. I keep hearing stories about a civil war within the DNC, and there are some signs of it, but from what I've seen the moderates seem to be giving ground.

I almost feel like they're setting her up for a fall, maybe part of some strategy to discredit the far left of the party. Part of me hopes that's what we're seeing but I doubt it. I keep hearing stories about a civil war within the DNC, and there are some signs of it, but from what I've seen the moderates seem to be giving ground.

She’s featured front and center on Fox more than MSM.

RNC have acknowledged they want every candidate to run against her in 2020.

If you’re sick of hearing about her, complain to your right wing media hosts.

Whether that's true or not, what happened to all that furor over the other 109 women elected to congress this last go? The vast majority were Democrats but I don't exactly see the MSM promoting any of them in any noticeable way. Given that lack of interest, is it even meaningful that a record breaking number of seats went to women?

I almost feel like they're setting her up for a fall, maybe part of some strategy to discredit the far left of the party. Part of me hopes that's what we're seeing but I doubt it. I keep hearing stories about a civil war within the DNC, and there are some signs of it, but from what I've seen the moderates seem to be giving ground.

It doesn't help either when every mention of her is in the tone of "she beat an entrenched incumbent MAN in a big upset!". That's basically it; she won and she's a woman, so yay! That's more than a little insulting. Or rather, it would be more than a little insulting to a person who won that seat who had an actual platform and original ideas instead of just trite Ocasio-cliches.

Comment

Whether that's true or not, what happened to all that furor over the other 109 women elected to congress this last go? The vast majority were Democrats but I don't exactly see the MSM promoting any of them in any noticeable way. Given that lack of interest, is it even meaningful that a record breaking number of seats went to women?

How and why should they promote freshmen congress women?

I think it’s meaningful in terms of just the sheer number that got elected, demonstrating Americans are more and more willing to let a different sex run government. Gender bias is disappearing. That’s good, no?

I think it’s meaningful in terms of just the sheer number that got elected, demonstrating Americans are more and more willing to let a different sex run government. Gender bias is disappearing. That’s good, no?

It is good. As long as they're qualified.

An ancillary problem is, it's tipping the other way. Bernie and Beto have a problem. Two problems, actually. They're both male and both white. That's a problem for your party, friend.

Why point to it and make it a big deal if it's just for show? The furor immediately died down. The women also promoted themselves with their white outfit thing at the SOTU. Maybe ask them why it's meaningful beyond just exercising vagina power.

I think it’s meaningful in terms of just the sheer number that got elected, demonstrating Americans are more and more willing to let a different sex run government. Gender bias is disappearing. That’s good, no?

I don't particularly care one way or the other. I mean, I voted for a third party candidate I felt was qualified for President last time around and she happened to be a woman --but not because she was a woman.

As for proving gender bias is disappearing, it could be read the exact opposite. Gender bias is influencing a pattern of voting for women only because they're women. Which brings me back to my point about media promotion. You're saying Fox is driving the Ocasio-is-stupid narrative but then the counter to that should be that more left-friendly media is promoting at least one of the other hundred, regardless of freshmen status. That's not happening though. Seems to me all that glad-handing over such a big female presence was for nothing... or is there simply no story about any of the hundred new members because they're truly uninteresting? Nearly a fifth of congress isn't worth a story? Odds on that seem unlikely....

I don't know, my first knowledge of her came from all the right wing attacks on her before she was elected. The very first was Ben Shapiro wanting to debate her, like a candidate would debate a nobody for the hell of it.

We have the right to speak up, it's not about "hammering Obama" it's about questioning his performance. ~Bullseye

Comment

I don't know, my first knowledge of her came from all the right wing attacks on her before she was elected. The very first was Ben Shapiro wanting to debate her, like a candidate would debate a nobody for the hell of it.

I guess the universe didn't exist until you were born? She was being promoted by MSM before Shapiro and AOC had their little Twitter exchange, where she stupidly accused conservatives of being unwilling to debate her, and then accused Shapiro of misogyny for... offering to debate her.

Whatever. I guess the mere fact you prefer to think she's a right-wing plant just goes to show how horrible she is for the party.

Comment

I guess the universe didn't exist until you were born? She was being promoted by MSM before Shapiro and AOC had their little Twitter exchange, where she stupidly accused conservatives of being unwilling to debate her, and then accused Shapiro of misogyny for... offering to debate her.

Whatever. I guess the mere fact you prefer to think she's a right-wing plant just goes to show how horrible she is for the party.

I'm not saying she's a plant or a shill, but that the right has made her their pet project in a way to continue to demonize the left. From what I gather, just my opinion, they see a young opinionated woman who puts the socialist tag in front of her party name and the guys at Fox and other right wing media instantly got hard, thinking she would be an easy target to exploit. But, you're right, I don't pay attention to TV news, so I don't see the MSM doing what you claim, although they could be.

We have the right to speak up, it's not about "hammering Obama" it's about questioning his performance. ~Bullseye

Comment

It is a young Latino woman who doesn't sit quietly and let people define her. Of course the GOP was going to demonize her.

She habitually controls her own narrative and is constantly asking the best questions in her hearings (the Union Bank one didn't make a lot of sense out of context, but she was basically just asking them to be accountable for funding something detrimental), which is pretty ****ing impressive for being as young as she is. Notice how she was the only one not grandstanding during the Cohen hearing.

She is called a Communist for paying everyone on her staff a living wage. She actually represents her constituency by taking their calls instead of soliciting donations. She pushes bold ideas.

Remember that hated politician Robert Kennedy? The one who said "Some men see things as they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"

Well, we actually have someone in congress asking why not. Two, if you count Bernie. Three if you count Warren. However many, except none on the GOP side, oddly, unless it involves a tax cut for the wealthiest.