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Topic Review (Newest First)

02-02-2013 07:59 PM

eglove

What's the warranty on the downpipe? Lifetime?

01-07-2013 09:08 AM

FLYLOW

Quote:

Originally Posted by kflaig

What do you mean by "take"?

Well i havent tried it but hasnt tom and a few others said/gotten good results with a 3"? Dont know about the st, but i have yet to see dynos of 2 1/2 vs. 3" on the same car same day same dyno.

Same was said in the gencoupe world. I did 3" and got a better overall hp/tq curve with a 3" single exit. I guess only time will tell for the st

01-07-2013 08:22 AM

kflaig

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYLOW

If a i/tune/n-a modded svt can take 3" i dont see why a turboed st cant...

What do you mean by "take"?

01-07-2013 08:18 AM

FLYLOW

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonMaiden

Bigger isn't always better and 2.5 might be optimum for that setup.

If a i/tune/n-a modded svt can take 3" i dont see why a turboed st cant...

01-06-2013 09:20 AM

RonMaiden

I spent a lot of time at dynos watching people throw on 3" exhaust on their cars and see horsepower drop in the low range and net slower 1/4 mile times. People need to research this stuff instead of just following the gang which happens alot in the enthusiasts world.

01-05-2013 08:13 PM

elsolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubhack

Stock is 2.5". Most aftermarket (FSWerks, Borla, Magnaflow) are offering 3". They just missed the boat.

Just because that is the most requested size, and therefore very popular, does not mean it is the best performing. Most aftermarket stuff for late models isn't about improving performance as much as aesthetics.

When a shop does good R&D for improved performance, you get people that want something different because they think will perform better, despite the testing and development done.

When I was hotrodding my first BBC, I went through four different cams until I finally listened. Then I got the tiny little cam Alan recommended that wasn't very "high performance" in my mind and went the fastest. Probably should have just taken the advice of the guy that builds BBC race motors and owns a dyno.

01-05-2013 10:02 AM

RonMaiden

I dynoed my Eclipse and with a +1 size turbo up from stock I had a 2.5" turbo back setup and I swapped over to a full 3" and saw zero gains til I went up another size turbo and was pushing near 400 at the crank and then the 3" size was actually worth it.

01-05-2013 08:22 AM

kflaig

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubhack

Stock is 2.5". Most aftermarket (FSWerks, Borla, Magnaflow) are offering 3". They just missed the boat.

Here's Buschur's rational behind using 2 1/2" vs. 3":

1. A 3" weighs more.
2. A 3" costs more.
3. The ST's engine will never produce enough power that upping to 3" from 2 1/2" is worth what you give up in weight and cost.