I'd say it's fairly obviously a troll.If only the escapist mods were as ruthless as the by-gone days of 2008 :(

Seems pretty likely, but I just wanted an excuse to use that image. Would you believe that it's from a Japanese artist who drew some of the Katawa Shoujo characters in an "American" style and threatened to remake the entire thing after getting mad about westerners hijacking their culture and making a Japanese-style game with Japanese-looking artwork? Shizune looked eerily like Foul Bachelor Frog. Heh.

The fact that you don't realize how wrong it is to date disabled folks makes me even more worried.

Because I am sure our future generations would be TICKLED PINK to be blind or have short arms.

No, I don't expect you to buy it, because that would imply that you spent something- the download on the website's free, I was making joke about how you couldn't spend too much on it because it's free...

And frankly, I'm worried that you apparantly think that it's wrong for normal people to find love in a disabled person just BECAUSE they're disabled and on no other criteria... so please, explain to me how dating a disabled person is 'wrong' to you, because apparantly I don't understand.

Because by doing so, you're polluting the gene pool with undesirable traits.

Because the last thing you want people to start a relationship ever is enjoying the other person's company and caring about what happens to them.

So explain to me how a person with burns or missing legs or arms is polluting the gene pool with undesirable traits? I know people that have missing limbs and knew a guy who raced in a kayak who had third degree burns all across his body, and you are saying they don't deserve any significant other.

Incidentally, since I saw it was free and got high praise, I took a look into the game, and it's not really about dating nor does it do all that much to sexualize people, it just tries to show they are people like everyone else.

....I...what!? WHAT WHAT WHAT!?Dear God, you can't expect us to believe that all the romantic poets only had the goal of having children in mind!Nor even the very first Romantic poets.....King David is an exception.

But seriously I think we've established the idea in modern day society that just because you love someone doesn't mean you're obliged to bear their offspring.The idea of Romance usually stems from a person's infatuation towards another human being with traits THEY find desirable and compatible with.It usually involves desiring not just their physical characteristics but their personality and mentality as well.

What you deem as desirable coincides with the idea of breeding for the best.Not all people desire such an act or similar traits.If anything having children is more of an incentive towards your love and affection of said person.It isn't required, though and shouldn't be in a relationship.

No offense but the way you describe Romance sounds robotic and almost unfeeling.Pairing the best genes does not always result with the best result.

HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM METAL GEAR SOLID!?

I never said it was a conscious decision, that's just what they do. Whether they realize it or not.

After all, it is no coincidence that romance happens to only coincide with what someone is sexually attracted to. And sexual attraction is for the purpose of reproduction.

I feel the need to point out not all disabilities are genetic and these types of sweeping statements are insanely in considerate to both people who have been in domestic accidents (car wrecks ect..) and people who have taken combat injuries (loss of limbs from a landmine or IED for example). So my question to you is are those people not allowed date and reproduce because they are disabled?

Of course?

If they were desirable enough genetically then that wouldn't have happened to them in the first place.

OH BULLSHIT. Now you are obviously trying to piss people off, so a passenger in the back seat of a car needs to have psychic powers to avoid an accident a drunk driver caused, the burn victim I mentioned earlier was 3 when his house burned down, although maybe we should follow your idea, I'd hate to see any of your traits pass into future generations.

I never said it was a conscious decision, that's just what they do. Whether they realize it or not.

After all, it is no coincidence that romance happens to only coincide with what someone is sexually attracted to. And sexual attraction is for the purpose of reproduction.

I realize this is the third time trying to reason with you, but romance DOES NOT ONLY HAPPEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO EACH OTHER. Judging by your arguments, you've never tried or seen anyone in a relationship. Incidentally on you previous argument that bad things never happen to genetically superior people, so I guess Steven Hawking is the low point of the gene pool and by your philosophy should be removed.

....I...what!? WHAT WHAT WHAT!?Dear God, you can't expect us to believe that all the romantic poets only had the goal of having children in mind!Nor even the very first Romantic poets.....King David is an exception.

But seriously I think we've established the idea in modern day society that just because you love someone doesn't mean you're obliged to bear their offspring.The idea of Romance usually stems from a person's infatuation towards another human being with traits THEY find desirable and compatible with.It usually involves desiring not just their physical characteristics but their personality and mentality as well.

What you deem as desirable coincides with the idea of breeding for the best.Not all people desire such an act or similar traits.If anything having children is more of an incentive towards your love and affection of said person.It isn't required, though and shouldn't be in a relationship.

No offense but the way you describe Romance sounds robotic and almost unfeeling.Pairing the best genes does not always result with the best result.

HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM METAL GEAR SOLID!?

I never said it was a conscious decision, that's just what they do. Whether they realize it or not.

After all, it is no coincidence that romance happens to only coincide with what someone is sexually attracted to. And sexual attraction is for the purpose of reproduction.

However you can't ignore the fact that Sex Feels Good.And let's take the fact that not all animals reproduce or want to reproduce when engaging in this act.Just like we do, some animals only engage in this activity for pleasure.

Examples: Dolphins, and the Ibis Bird.

It's only natural for humans to want to partake in an event that brings pleasure such as sex. That's why we've invented contraceptives and birth control. It'd be irresponsible to bring a child into a world simply because someone wanted to get laid.

OH BULLSHIT. Now you are obviously trying to piss people off, so a passenger in the back seat of a car needs to have psychic powers to avoid an accident a drunk driver caused, the burn victim I mentioned earlier was 3 when his house burned down, although maybe we should follow your idea, I'd hate to see any of your traits pass into future generations.

That's a notion I agree with. I can think of at least a dozen different flaws in my person that they would alone be unsuitable for future generations.

I just wish that others were as conscious about their flaws and chose whether or not they should reproduce based on that.

If they were desirable enough genetically then that wouldn't have happened to them in the first place.

Are you honestly telling me that if you are unlucky enough for some asshole drunk driver to plow into your car and for your injuries to lead to amputation that it was your fault for not having good genetics? Or if on a morning commute your train got derailed and a similar situation occurred it would be your genetics fault?

Damn train derailment gene. Should've been bred out a long time ago. How did we even develop it before trains even existed? Explain that, evolutionists!

Simple! Because Natural Selection failed to weed out the Commuters of the human race and thus the Car-Crash-Gene and Train-Derailment-Gene has continued to pollute our genetics to this day.

OH BULLSHIT. Now you are obviously trying to piss people off, so a passenger in the back seat of a car needs to have psychic powers to avoid an accident a drunk driver caused, the burn victim I mentioned earlier was 3 when his house burned down, although maybe we should follow your idea, I'd hate to see any of your traits pass into future generations.

That's a notion I agree with. I can think of at least a dozen different flaws in my person that they would alone be unsuitable for future generations.

I just wish that others were as conscious about their flaws and chose whether or not they should reproduce based on that.

Then you are defeating the purpose of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND AFFECTION!I don't care how logical and scientifically sound you are trying to make your argument, because you are dehumanizing the concept of romance and making it only subject to peopling thinking only about their future generations other than each other first.

If you look too far ahead you're bound to miss some important aspects of life.

Simple! Because Natural Selection failed to weed out the Commuters of the human race and thus the Car-Crash-Gene and Train-Derailment-Gene has continued to pollute our genetics to this day.

Exactly! Therefore if you've ever been IN an accident- whether or not you caused it is irrelevant- then you are hereby forbidden to reproduce! Your (and my) genes are polluting the human genome and you deserve to die for your shitty genes!

OH BULLSHIT. Now you are obviously trying to piss people off, so a passenger in the back seat of a car needs to have psychic powers to avoid an accident a drunk driver caused, the burn victim I mentioned earlier was 3 when his house burned down, although maybe we should follow your idea, I'd hate to see any of your traits pass into future generations.

That's a notion I agree with. I can think of at least a dozen different flaws in my person that they would alone be unsuitable for future generations.

I just wish that others were as conscious about their flaws and chose whether or not they should reproduce based on that.

Of the twelve, I have to wonder how many are caused by genetics and how many are environmental, since you seem to have a somewhat Lamarckian view here.

OH BULLSHIT. Now you are obviously trying to piss people off, so a passenger in the back seat of a car needs to have psychic powers to avoid an accident a drunk driver caused, the burn victim I mentioned earlier was 3 when his house burned down, although maybe we should follow your idea, I'd hate to see any of your traits pass into future generations.

That's a notion I agree with. I can think of at least a dozen different flaws in my person that they would alone be unsuitable for future generations.

I just wish that others were as conscious about their flaws and chose whether or not they should reproduce based on that.

Of the twelve, I have to wonder how many are caused by genetics and how many are environmental, since you seem to have a somewhat Lamarckian view here.

Not Lamarckian, just saying that if they had the perceptive or reactionary capabilities(That are related to genetics) then they would have avoided the problems.

Does it have anything to show for it other than pretty pictures and writing?

as somone who doesnt like anime/manga/ visual novels would I be recomending it to you if it didnt?

What attraction can there be to visual novels besides their pictures and writing? I'm not insulting them, art and writing are great! But what else is the draw? The gameplay isn't anything more than a choose your own adventure.

Simple! Because Natural Selection failed to weed out the Commuters of the human race and thus the Car-Crash-Gene and Train-Derailment-Gene has continued to pollute our genetics to this day.

Exactly! Therefore if you've ever been IN an accident- whether or not you caused it is irrelevant- then you are hereby forbidden to reproduce! Your (and my) genes are polluting the human genome and you deserve to die for your shitty genes!

No matter what the reason for discussing Genes in any situation, I always find myself going back to this particular scene along with Metal Gear Solid 1.

If you ever learned anything from MGS1, it's that just because you have all the dominant or all the recessive genes does not mean you got the better genes.And secondly just because you have the better genes does not mean they will all pass down because the more desirable genes might be like Big Boss's therefore recessive, making it difficult to pass down.

I can't believe I'm using a video game as an analogy, but honestly no one deserves to die because of their gene traits.....unless they're harboring a new Strain of the T-Virus and are bound to screw us all over....

No matter what the reason for discussing Genes in any situation, I always find myself going back to this particular scene along with Metal Gear Solid 1.

Hey, if it fits, who cares if it's the same thing every time?

There's also accounting for genetic mutations during reproduction- no matter how perfect either or both parents may or may not be, there's no stopping a genetic mutation here and there when DNA is copied, thus attaining the 'perfect genes for all humanity' is pretty much impossible without widespread 'flawless' genetic manipulation.

.. Mm, I would love to debate with one of you guy's but I am trying to see who to side with more. Every opinion seems to stand out, while other opinions make me question if they really believe in that. Also funny to see these debates coming off a comedy comic, but that's fine because I know issues tend to spark out of any form of game/movie/book/entertainment when it deals with real life (more so).

EverythingIncredible:I can't be the only one who is disturbed that people fetishized disabled people enough to not only make a game out of it, but to localize it too...

go play the game...then come back

There's even an option to remove the sex scene so those who wish to play a heartwarming game without running into nudity or 'adult themes' can actually avoid it. There was like 5 other people who said almost the same thing and I had to notify them of the specifics. Now 2 of them actually love the game because they tried it. There's a comic for this issue actually:

Does it have anything to show for it other than pretty pictures and writing?

as somone who doesnt like anime/manga/ visual novels would I be recomending it to you if it didnt?

What attraction can there be to visual novels besides their pictures and writing? I'm not insulting them, art and writing are great! But what else is the draw? The gameplay isn't anything more than a choose your own adventure.

The fact that you don't realize how wrong it is to date disabled folks makes me even more worried.

Because I am sure our future generations would be TICKLED PINK to be blind or have short arms.

No, I don't expect you to buy it, because that would imply that you spent something- the download on the website's free, I was making joke about how you couldn't spend too much on it because it's free...

And frankly, I'm worried that you apparantly think that it's wrong for normal people to find love in a disabled person just BECAUSE they're disabled and on no other criteria... so please, explain to me how dating a disabled person is 'wrong' to you, because apparantly I don't understand.

Because by doing so, you're polluting the gene pool with undesirable traits.

Does it have anything to show for it other than pretty pictures and writing?

as somone who doesnt like anime/manga/ visual novels would I be recomending it to you if it didnt?

What attraction can there be to visual novels besides their pictures and writing? I'm not insulting them, art and writing are great! But what else is the draw? The gameplay isn't anything more than a choose your own adventure.

You're right, but saying that's all there is would be like me saying all there is to novels is words, so there isn't any draw.

Although if you want good writing and character development, the game(?) certainly has it.

Caramel Frappe:.. Mm, I would love to debate with one of you guy's but I am trying to see who to side with more. Every opinion seems to stand out, while other opinions make me question if they really believe in that. Also funny to see these debates coming off a comedy comic, but that's fine because I know issues tend to spark out of any form of game/movie/book/entertainment when it deals with real life (more so).

EverythingIncredible:I can't be the only one who is disturbed that people fetishized disabled people enough to not only make a game out of it, but to localize it too...

go play the game...then come back

There's even an option to remove the sex scene so those who wish to play a heartwarming game without running into nudity or 'adult themes' can actually avoid it. There was like 5 other people who said almost the same thing and I had to notify them of the specifics. Now 2 of them actually love the game because they tried it. There's a comic for this issue actually:

Haha, one would think I took the Avatar off a random website. But truth be told, I made it myself ^_^ which took a long time.. Mm. See, I make GIFs for people thus have been improving a lot. If you'd like proof that I made this Avatar then please check out my DeviantArt submission of it. All the details are there. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Haha, one would think I took the Avatar off a random website. But truth be told, I made it myself ^_^ which took a long time.. Mm. See, I make GIFs for people thus have been improving a lot. If you'd like proof that I made this Avatar then please check out my DeviantArt submission of it. All the details are there. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Haha, one would think I took the Avatar off a random website. But truth be told, I made it myself ^_^ which took a long time.. Mm. See, I make GIFs for people thus have been improving a lot. If you'd like proof that I made this Avatar then please check out my DeviantArt submission of it. All the details are there. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Hey there Madara, nice to see you once again. :} Much appreciated with your compliment by the way, I still have a way to go before my Avatars are even considered truly awesome but i've been getting a lot of good feedback so I am satisfied. Besides, your Avatar is very epic.. Tobi's face makes a good impression on who's the boss right?

Oh and what of these discussions on 'poor' genes and people should/shouldn't reproduce. I got an opinion on that, but I got lost when reading the posts. You could say I got sidetracked by it overall.

Haha, one would think I took the Avatar off a random website. But truth be told, I made it myself ^_^ which took a long time.. Mm. See, I make GIFs for people thus have been improving a lot. If you'd like proof that I made this Avatar then please check out my DeviantArt submission of it. All the details are there. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Haha, one would think I took the Avatar off a random website. But truth be told, I made it myself ^_^ which took a long time.. Mm. See, I make GIFs for people thus have been improving a lot. If you'd like proof that I made this Avatar then please check out my DeviantArt submission of it. All the details are there. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Hey there Madara, nice to see you once again. :} Much appreciated with your compliment by the way, I still have a way to go before my Avatars are even considered truly awesome but i've been getting a lot of good feedback so I am satisfied. Besides, your Avatar is very epic.. Tobi's face makes a good impression on who's the boss right?

Oh and what of these discussions on 'poor' genes and people should/shouldn't reproduce. I got an opinion on that, but I got lost when reading the posts. You could say I got sidetracked by it overall.

Hehehe it's cool. Best way to sum it up.

Solid Snake (For Love disregarding all the Genetic Perfection)vsLiquid Snake (Pursuing the goal of having perfect genes thereby dehumanizing the act of love-making.