Just want to point out... the Bears could end up being 3rd in the division after this week. Sounds like Cutler could miss another game, and if the Vikings could beat the Bears, then the Vikings are ahead of the Bears.

Also if the Vikings win, and the Packers lose, they'll be tied and the Vikings will have the current tie breaker.

So if they Packers lose, they'll be in 2nd in the NFC North... and Vikings could be first if the Packers lose and Vikings win.

beast, I'm not even thinking along those lines, but duly noted! Happy Thanksgiving bro!

Just want to point out... the Bears could end up being 3rd in the division after this week. Sounds like Cutler could miss another game, and if the Vikings could beat the Bears, then the Vikings are ahead of the Bears.

Also if the Vikings win, and the Packers lose, they'll be tied and the Vikings will have the current tie breaker.

So if they Packers lose, they'll be in 2nd in the NFC North... and Vikings could be first if the Packers lose and Vikings win.

I know you're pointing out football facts, but I'm about as worried of the Vikings winning the NFC North as I am of my wife running off with Justin Bieber. MN's got 4 guaranteed losses coming up - this week @da Bears, with or without Cutler (but more than likely with so forget it Vikings), us, Houston, and us. That would put them at 8-8 at best. At worst, we finish 10-6.

beast, I'm not even thinking along those lines, but duly noted! Happy Thanksgiving bro!

Happy Thanksgiving to you too. As far as you'd like the Giants @ Packers game... it seems like the road team has been winning that game most of the time lately. Packers go to NY (or NJ I should say), and they win. NY comes to GB and they win.

Let's see, you say one loss to da Bears, swept by the Packers and one loss to the Texans.....interesting.

That sounds like a mighty bold prediction my amigo, would you care to back that up with a "little" side wager?

Or have you been hanging around foster so much that you are starting to blow smoke out your ass as well?

We already got a bet going. And I got the Niners vs Texans bet going with Mr. I Love Quarterbacks. So it's not like I don't have any bets going.

Now if you STILL want to get a side bet going, Packers sweep your Vikings, you lose to the Texans, and one or more losses to da Bears. That's 4 games that have to go my way (well, technically 4 out of 5 games with da Bears being the team that needs to generate a win). $40 on top of our current wager?

We already got a bet going. And I got the Niners vs Texans bet going with Mr. I Love Quarterbacks. So it's not like I don't have any bets going.

Now if you STILL want to get a side bet going, Packers sweep your Vikings, you lose to the Texans, and one or more losses to da Bears. That's 4 games that have to go my way (well, technically 4 out of 5 games with da Bears being the team that needs to generate a win). $40 on top of our current wager?

Make it an even $50 and you're on.

Yep, Mitt zombieslayer

Early this year...."the Packers will sweep the NFCN....uh never mind"

Later this year...."I'm not betting on the Packers this year...uh never mind"

Re: Giants game a must win. I hope not, because I have a bad feeling about this one.

Much as I get annoyed by this generation of Mannings, this is the kind of game where Eli Manning excels. Plus the Giants are coming off a bye, and IIRC they, unlike the Packers, tend to come off their byes ready to take no prisoners.

And our OL is...well, our OL.

My guess is that, after last weeks mediocre performance, McCarthy and Rodgers will have the team in "1, 2, 3...DOMINATE!" mode. But still, I worry.

Fortunately, this is NOT a must-win game, not with the likes of Minnesota (Ponder? hahahha), Chicago (still suck!), and Detroit (hahhaha) in four of the remaining five games?

Even with a loss to the Gints, the Pack will go at worst 4-2 the rest of the season. And that'll be good enough for at worst the 4th seed. The Gints would likely get the three seed. Though they've got games against Washington, Atlanta, and Baltimore, all of which could be losses, that would s till put them in position to win head-to-head tiebreaker with GB.

The Packers need to win if they want to get a playoff bye. But personally, I like their chances better if they don't get that playoff week off.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too. As far as you'd like the Giants @ Packers game... it seems like the road team has been winning that game most of the time lately. Packers go to NY (or NJ I should say), and they win. NY comes to GB and they win.

Hey beast,

I guess the bigger point I was trying to illustrate, is that I would like for our Packers to force the issue with a win at NYG, and retake our once proud home field advantage. We should not lose games at Lambeau in the winter. Period.

Green Bay needs to consciously take that back. Some way. Somehow. I think winning out, or close to it this season will help us get there.

Hey, get a painting crew in the visiting locker room pronto, and paint that sucker pink. Why not? Hey, it would be a start IMO. The Packers organization should be looking at every little thing that they themselves can change in order to make this an unenjoyable place for the opposition to play.

My feeling is that they have gone a bit overboard in making Lambeau too friendly. Our opponents should fear coming here.

Much as I get annoyed by this generation of Mannings, this is the kind of game where Eli Manning excels. Plus the Giants are coming off a bye, and IIRC they, unlike the Packers, tend to come off their byes ready to take no prisoners.

Since Coughlin took over the Giants in 2004 they are 5-3 after a bye week, 5-4 inclusive of one playoff loss coming off a bye. Since 2006 McCarthy and the Pack are 6-1 after a bye, 7-2 including the playoffs.

Wade said:

And our OL is...well, our OL.

My guess is that, after last weeks mediocre performance, McCarthy and Rodgers will have the team in "1, 2, 3...DOMINATE!" mode. But still, I worry.

I do too.

Wade said:

Fortunately, this is NOT a must-win game, not with the likes of Minnesota (Ponder? hahahha), Chicago (still suck!), and Detroit (hahhaha) in four of the remaining five games?

Even with a loss to the Gints, the Pack will go at worst 4-2 the rest of the season. And that'll be good enough for at worst the 4th seed. The Gints would likely get the three seed. Though they've got games against Washington, Atlanta, and Baltimore, all of which could be losses, that would s till put them in position to win head-to-head tiebreaker with GB.

The Packers need to win if they want to get a playoff bye. But personally, I like their chances better if they don't get that playoff week off.

I agree that this is not a must win game unless we want a bye week. Atlanta has had a bit of a farce as far as their schedule goes and they still have games against Carolina and Detroit. Assuming they win those two, all they have to do is split the 4 games against the Bucs (2x), Saints and Giants to get to 13-3. San Fran should be able to finish with 11 or 12 wins. That means we'd have to go at least 5-1 to have a shot at the 2 seed.

Oh, under your scenario where the Giants lose to Washington, Atlanta and Baltimore they finish 9-7. We'd only need 3 more wins to finish in the 3rd seed, and that's where I think we'll be, hosting either Chicago or Seattle before a trip to San Fran.

Shouldn't but did... twice to the Giants in the playoffs. I don't want to see them or the 49ers in the playoffs. 49ers are probably gonna make it... and as it looks now will be 2nd and 3rd seeds... and there for meeting if the 3rd seed beats the 6th seed.

But the Giants have a tough schedule left with the Packers, Falcons, Ravens the hot Saints and a game against the Redskins. It's possible they could still lose their division and might miss the playoffs... (or might get the 6th seed and have to face the 49er if they get the 3rd seed. )

Yeah, I just want them to turn that around. The only way to do that is meet your nemesis head on, and take him down! On our turf! I'd like for the Packers to put that shit to bed and bring back our home field advantage. I don't care who we face.

This is actually one of the few games that I am not stressing. A loss here does not hurt us too bad in my eyes. I also am thinking about last year where the playoff bye week may have actually hurt us. Also, the last five years have shown that home field has become more of a disadvantage for this team in the playoffs and that is sad.

While I understand what they are saying, I don't know that I agree with the premise.

Instead, I think this is an important measuring stick game right now, one in which it will really lay out the Packers must do the remainder of the season to make the run they want to. In fact, I think if they blow out the Giants it will actually be counter productive to the Packers end goal.

We need to be a hungry and aggressive team, I think as long as this game is close and well played, win or lose it will fit the Packers needs moving forward. I actually think a blowout loss would be better than a blowout win in terms of the Packers mindset.

Well, the measuring stick has shown that we need to become a more physical team overall.. I think this is a wake up call for this team and coaching staff. We are what we are in terms of an offensive line, so now we have to gameplan to protect it as much as we can when we face fast defensive fronts.

I stand that this game being what it is, a blowout loss, will be more of a benefit than a blow out win. I don't like having to watch this type of ass kicking.. but I think this wakes up the team that we have to step up the physical effort.

The Giants going for it twice on fourth down should just fuel it.. if it doesn't, well then, this team will be sitting home in Feb.

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