The Faggotsphere is here: “Waah I quit,” says the Manosphere.

Brothers of the Sphere of Man, I hereby depart you. Nay, stay me not – though a single oak-scented tear doth glint my rugged cheek! For I am but a loony-toon marshmallow, and can no longer bear the slings and arrows of outrageous perspicacity.

It started off cool. Forney’s article semi- killed it. If anyone else “leaves the manosphere”, it’s going to be eye rolls and “oh come on”.

Really? You left? To where? You’re a man, you’re writing about the same shit, ergo you didn’t go anywhere.

It’s very simple. The manosphere wasn’t popular, so it was pure. Then it became a little bit popular, and lost purity.

Well, it was never pure. In the beginning, Ross Jeffries.

The point is, there’s a perfectly good word differentiating “man” from “not-man”, and that word is “faggot”. The manosphere needn’t disband over a couple of faggots. That in itself would be a faggot move. The correct move is what men have always done in response to faggots – shaming, belittling, calling out, bullying, persecution, etc.

The reason these “leaving the manosphere” articles have been good is not because of the Parthian but the shot. I can’t figure out why they’re running away, but I do enjoy the shooting.

And run where? Did anyone ever join the fucking manosphere? I missed that pledge of allegiance. It’s a genre, not a party. Stop with the category errors. Confucius says rectify the names. Don’t leave the manosphere; out the faggotsphere!

Of course Tucker Max is a self-promoting weasel; but hey, he’s a good writer with popular appeal. Look at his face; it’s what he was born to do. He will draw many; some will learn he’s a fraud and be led back to the source.

I’m glad pig-Forney decided to shit-wrestle with the muck-fearing SM and D504. That was much overdue. I rejoice as a white knight, in fact, that Laura Grace Robbins has been vindicated against her persecutor. Posting the pic was so perfect; a psycho cunt surfing the Wall with a lantern-jaw, writing hyena clit diddles to beta lickspittles. I heard of but never read either. Let the echo of their humiliation be the last whisper of their fame.

The challenge is a fundamental male ritual. Anyone who cannot answer it lacks the requisite testosterone or integrity, and in either case can get the fuck out. The way to maintain group integrity is not to LEAVE when infiltrators and weaklings inevitably arrive, but to keep the level of internal challenge high enough that they cannot survive.

Otherwise you will always be building things to enrich your inferiors. And that’s a faggot move.

Would your friend appreciate getting this?

There’s like 5-6 Edenist blogs I know of (Tex, Koanic, Aeoli, polymath, Eden’s Thaw, rdos) so the loss of one of them is pretty significant.

Koanic

Forney lost interest in the movement or something. Don’t worry about it.

Glenn

Perhaps he should worry about it, because Excavating Eden was Edenism’s high point. Rdos has good material but isn’t associated with us. Eden’s Thaw is esoteric and caters to people who are already convinced of the theories.

Many of the forum members cannot even decipher what you’re trying to say in the last 20 or so posts (not my observation, there’s a post about it in the forum; one prominent member: “Koanic’s Latest Emails: I have literally no fucking idea what he is talking about. Does anyone know what he is talking about?” I can read the new posts but it is a chore.). Most of the bloggers (Forney, Aurini, Eden’s Thaw, Illuminatus, Legionairre, graaaaaagh, atonthemelon, Spoos in August, Collapse of Man, etc.) that once visited the forum are long gone. For the past few months, each successive batch of members seems lower quality than the last. Members are aggressively revising the theories so that “Neanderthal” means whatever traits match them best. In my opinion, the forum is rapidly becoming just another one of the countless generic high-ish IQ internet hangout place. (The fact that fleetingly applicants seem to be dismissed corroborates that.) Many members think forum quality is going down. I haven’t been excited about anything in Edenism since Excavating Eden went down.

Glenn

And the place has been pretty much cleared out of the MM’s and MT’s. That was an observation that was made a few months ago.

Gegen Cro-Mags

I can decipher Koanic but I suspect I am similar to him psychologically (ie I do something similar to his koan-gathering myself).

I suspect that he comes off as very cryptic to most, yes.

Edenism has kind of fallen to the wayside here lately, in favor of Koanic’s koanic musings and eureka moments. I personally enjoy that stuff but maybe there is a need for a public-facing entry portal that covers just Edenism and does so in a non-esoteric way that doesn’t presume prior knowledge of internal memes. EE was that, but now it’s no more. The closest to a “start here” would be Koanic’s face reading mega-post, I suppose.

Regarding rdos, he’s technically not Edenosphere, but he covers the thal-aspie suspected link, which is noteworthy I think. And he seems to predate even Texas Arcane.

Koanic

My teaching load just dropped 50%, and will essentially end in mid July, for two months of summer vacation.

The health experimental/predictive framework is working. I learned to stop taking two supplements that cased major negative reactions. I learned that developed country tapwater also produces a major negative reaction. I still need to test which shrimp brands cause moderate bad reactions, and which don’t. This might take two weeks.

I probably can’t balance two projects, a survival job and properly relaunching Edenism, while experiencing moderate or severe negative reactions. Shrimp brand is the last source of moderate negative reactions within my minimum sustainable diet. Severe negative reaction sources have now all been eliminated.

I solved the social anxiety and performance problems, along with depression interfering with work ethic and effectiveness problem, by completing the incomprehensible koanic iteration process. I tested it while socializing heavily in Hong Kong, through sickness cycles, and it works at highs and lows. It is very simple now, and might be universal.

I have a simple, straightforward and direct plan for relaunching and monetizing Edenism as a separate, self-sustaining, scalable entity. As soon as I am able to take my attention off my immediate survival, I will direct my efforts there.

Massive delays are the price one pays to invent perfect solutions to hard problems. But the results, if achievable, are often worth the wait.

Gegen Cro-Mags

Good to hear things are working out.

If you’re going to be Edenist head honcho you might as well learn the art of delegation. I mean you’ve got plenty of followers. Use them as lieutenants to speed up the launch of the new Edenist entity that you’re planning.

As was recently posted on Ribbonfarm: “Delegation is, at root, about tolerating illegibility in means in exchange for greater control/legibility of ends.”

As an ingenopath/perfectionist, you are predisposed to seek higher legibility than the job strictly requires.

Koanic

of course. that’s integral to the plan

Koanic

As predicted, I’m currently suffering from unlabeled sodium triphosphate (or similar preservative) contamination from the first shrimp brand I tested, a moderately severe reaction with a unique symptom profile. I’ll wait for it to cycle through, then test the next. Once I find a clean brand, which I know exists thanks to previous good stretches of data, I’ll have energy to begin work on relaunching Edenism. Testing cycle is slower because it doesn’t trigger a full purge. I estimate I’ll have found it in under two weeks.

The challenge with this sort of testing is going without shrimp during the recovery periods, which involves gradual salt/mineral deprivation. However, I’m now strong enough, have a good enough framework, and have eliminated conflating variables, so that it is feasible to do so.

Russell

“Forney” Who?
“Laura Grace Robbins” Who?

“The way to maintain group integrity is not to LEAVE when infiltrators and
weaklings inevitably arrive, but to keep the level of internal
challenge high enough that they cannot survive.” This. And because the men of the West hasn’t been doing this, we’ve been losing civilization piece by piece.

Eventually the pendulum will swing again, but it’ll suck while it’s in motion. Trying to lessen the suck doesn’t seem to be working.

“And run where? Did anyone ever join the fucking manosphere? I missed that pledge of allegiance. It’s a genre, not a party.” Exactly.

Forney’s blog can be amusing, but it’s hard to see any motive there beyond self-indulgence (and money, of course). His urge to make smug declarations that he’s “not part” of whatever anyone else is strikes me as pathetic, self-absorbed preening. He’s said similar things in the past. I once saw a cute girl walk past a group of dorky-looking guys to get to her car; though she was alone, she made a hyperbolically disgusted face just in case anyone would see her in their proximity and think of her as one of them. It would be a hard mistake to make anyway, but the need to do such a thing made her look vulnerable and pathetic. That cute girl is Forney (although I doubt Forney is very successful with the opposite sex).

The manosphere is a gym, not a church. If my gym becomes unusable, I’ll find another, or buy some equipment for home. I certainly wouldn’t throw a fit about it.

At least he doesn’t frame his self-indulgence as some kind of crusade, like Roosh does.

Koanic

true. problem encountered and solved

Aeoli Pera

If we’re doing the internal challenge thing in the NH, then I suggest that changing the lingua franca to Latin is still the best first challenge.

Koanic

Why bother? Writeprint is the best IQ test.

Heaviside

Why do people seem to not like Ross Jeffries? He’s tribal, but I don’t see any other reason to dislike him.