br>I emailed ADDAC about this and got no reply. I adhered to the naming convention for wavs (a.wav, b.wav ... 0.wav, 1.wav ... aa.wav, bb.wav, etc)
but if I try to load more than 36 wavs the disc LED shows error. The 36 wavs play fine but it's supposed to have a 72 wav capacity. Has anyone else had this problem and is there a fix? br> br>

br>tom moody

br>Thanks to whoever moved my comment over to this ADDAC forum. I swear I didn't know this was here.
Reading previous comments in this forum I guess I'm lucky to have cards that play 36 wavs.
I have been using San Disk 2 GB cards but I have the same 36 wav limit problem using the 1 GB card that shipped with the module.
I am using Windows XP and 7 and have the same (36 wav limit) issue using either operating system. br> br>

br>seamonkeyman

br>Weird. Mine is running 72 ok. Have you tried reformatting the card with a digital camera, rather than the comp? Initially I had some issues, but once I formatted in my bog standard Sony camera it was fine. I'm using Sandisk 4gb cards with no problems.

You know that the b.wav file needs to be small? I think it's mentioned in the PDF manual somewhere. I've found ADDAC to be very friendly, so I'm surprised you've not heard back.

br>Thanks for replying. Unfortunately my Sony camera is old and uses the dreaded "memory stick." I never actually formatted the card in the computer. My PC read the 4 wav files that came on the included card and then those played fine in the module so I saw no need to reformat. According to my PC the properties of the card are FAT16. I didn't have a problem until I tried adding "aa.wav, bb.wav, etc" and up to the card. Then I hit the max 36 limit.
I was a bit bummed I didn't get a reply to my email -- I figured it was one of those "use the forum" situations so I came here. br> br>

br>tom moody

br>Oh, yes, and my b.wavs are all under 500KB (as per the manual) but thanks for the suggestion. br> br>

br>seamonkeyman

br>I also had some problems with the original card once I started adding files/generally messing about. It may be worth a go experimenting with another card formatted in a mate's camera (don't think it need to be Sony camera, that's just what I have). I've just ordered some Thomann cards, so once those turn up I'll let you know if they work straight out of the box.

Sorry I can't be more help, I've read about card issues in other threads, and heard the formatting answer elsewhere. Reformatting under OSX or windows 7 didn't seem to work for me, very weird. br> br>

br>tom moody

br>I will ask around and see if I can find someone with a SD card-using camera. Certainly worth a shot, no pun intended. Will let you know how it goes, thanks. br> br>

br>ams

br>I've run into exactly the same issue - I can only play 36 files on the ADDAC111 - and this is with an SD card supplied by ADDAC. I've sent them an email but would be grateful to hear if anyone has found a way round this issue.

I'm on Windows rather than OSX but I might try reformatting the SD card to see if that helps.

Robert br> br>

br>ams

br>OK, well I've had it confirmed from Andre that this module can actually only handle 36 WAV files.

I've asked if he can update the documentation.

Robert br> br>

br>ersatzplanet

br>Is this the v2 of the module? Mine is a v1 module. br> br>

br>ams

br>

ersatzplanet wrote:

Is this the v2 of the module? Mine is a v1 module.

It's an ADDAC111 rather than a 101 if that's what you mean. It's dated 2013.

Robert br> br>

br>ersatzplanet

br>

ams wrote:

ersatzplanet wrote:

Is this the v2 of the module? Mine is a v1 module.

It's an ADDAC111 rather than a 101 if that's what you mean. It's dated 2013.

Robert

I was thinking this was about the 101, not the 111. There were two versions of the 101. I didn't know, and I guess, by the responses in this thread, many others didn't either, that this had changed between the 101 and the 111. br> br>

br>ams

br>

ersatzplanet wrote:

I was thinking this was about the 101, not the 111. There were two versions of the 101. I didn't know, and I guess, by the responses in this thread, many others didn't either, that this had changed between the 101 and the 111.

Sadly not...

It's not a major issue - I can do what I need to do with 36 files but it's a shame it can't handle more.

Robert br> br>

br>tom moody

br>My original post was about the 101 model. I've been living with the 36 file limit and in fact just ordered the 111, assuming this had been fixed. Heh.
I'm on Windows so I don't really need the Mac cleaner linked to above. ADDAC says a Windows cleaner is on the way but that was almost 2 years ago. br> br>

br>mafouka

br>yo comrade, luckily there's a little work around windows cleaner, but it takes a little 1-2 step action:

Quote:

OK,

Andre got back to me quickly and informed me Win 8 now leaves hidden carrier files in SD cards now cry . . . Although, there is a solution!

The solution is to run Command Prompt from the start menu and then enter in the following prompt:

"RmDir /s /q "e:\System Volume Information"

remember you'll need to change the "e:\ suffix to whatever letter the SD card comes up as, depending on how many drives u got running in yr system. Mine was h:\ for example.

cheers

Just copy and paste the the command prompt and press enter, then remove the card.

br>Thanks very much, I saw that but I haven't had any problems with the cards (yet), other than the 36 file limit, which appears to be a feature, not a bug.
I still have an XP computer that I use for the cards but it won't be around forever, so this will be helpful. br> br>

How small is small?
I'm really not into this WAV player because of all of the gotchas.
Honestly; why can't we just put whatever files we want into this thing and be done with it. I'm fine formatting them but I find it a bit arduous to have to format everything so carefully, to use a special app for removing data, to have to trim b.wav, to not be able to rely on the module loading the file it loaded last time, etc etc.

Does anyone else feel the same?
I'm sorry if I sound miffed; I've just honestly spent more time troubleshooting what is wrong w/ my SD card than I have actually using the thing, and I don't feel that it should be like that. br> br>

br>mafouka

br>^yo bisquick, i feel for you in some ways. . . beginning the .wav player ventures are a tough trial n error experiment, kinda like making yr first bisquick waffles, till you get a solid recipe down.

You gotta remember the 101 is one of the first ever eurorack samplers, ran off an Arduino chip, so's it's pretty prim compared to the newest stuff. Like i said though, once you get a systematic formatting habit down, you're set, and the results are very worth the time imo!

File b.wav has to be under 500kb br> br>

br>tom moody

br>A computer running Linux (Ubuntu Studio) can also be used to save 22.5 sample rate .wav files to the SD card. Linux will also recognize and allow you to clean hidden files. Audacity can be used to convert the wavs using "Tracks --> Resample." (But make sure the "project rate" is set for 22.5 before exporting.) The only thing Linux can't do, Ultra Wav-wise, is automatically rename the files a, b, c, etc.
After griping about the 36 file restriction, I'm coming to the view that the Ultra Wav works better with a smaller number of files loaded on the card -- for example, a "kit" of 8 drum hits. it depends on what you want to do with the sampler, of course. I agree with mafouka that "the results are very worth the time" of learning about formatting vis a vis the quality of the output. br> br>

br>ersatzplanet

br>I have two ADDAC101's (a V1 and a V2) and two Qu-Bit Nebulae along with a couple of DIY wave players based on the SparkFun WaveTrigger PCB. They all use different file naming conventions and different media (USB, SDcard, uSDcards). The at least have the same file type (though the Nebulae can convert). I was snagged a few time because some of them require files with NO metadata and many sample editors will add metadata like editor name and keywords etc. I have to pass everything through a editor I have that erases all that. Also because I use Macs, I have to use the cleaner program that ADDAC has to remove all the hidden files. A real hassle. br> br>

br>tom moody

br>I saw your comments on this thread ( https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23960 ) re: your use of ADDACs and Nebulaes. Having separate folders with the exact same sounds in different formats is kind of an administrative hassle but ultimately worth it for experimentation with the different players. There is also the Doepfer A-112 (and the related software from Muff users that converts wavs to 8 bit). The 1010 Bitbox looks tempting but part of the charm of the "older" wav modules such as ADDAC's is the lo fi character and the mistakes. Perfect rendering of the waveform and perfect playback -- you might as well stick with a PC. (And yes, using samples as wavetables in Euro is a fertile area.) br> br>

br>ersatzplanet

br>

tom moody wrote:

I saw your comments on this thread ( https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23960 ) re: your use of ADDACs and Nebulaes. Having separate folders with the exact same sounds in different formats is kind of an administrative hassle but ultimately worth it for experimentation with the different players.

I do have multiple folders on my computer for each playback device and folders inside them for each media (USB stick SD and MicroSD card) and although it is a hassle, it is the only way to do it with any order at all.

tom moody wrote:

There is also the Doepfer A-112 (and the related software from Muff users that converts wavs to 8 bit). The 1010 Bitbox looks tempting but part of the charm of the "older" wav modules such as ADDAC's is the lo fi character and the mistakes. Perfect rendering of the waveform and perfect playback -- you might as well stick with a PC. (And yes, using samples as wavetables in Euro is a fertile area.)

The different players have different uses for me. The Nebulae is better at "playing" the sample in that it can do pitch changing AND time changing (even backwards) at the same time.

The ADDAC is easier for playing waves at the original pitch they were recorded in, but you can slice and dice and play parts of the sample easily. Also it is not restricted to internal memory sizes like the Nebulae, since it plays off the card directly. You can have a lot of long phrase samples to chop up in it. The built in envelope follower is also very handy.

The DIY Wav player I made off the $50 Sparkfun WavTrigger boards are great for background beds and ambience. They are stereo, CD quality and can play up to 14 tracks at a time and the tracks can be as big as you can fit on a MicroSD card. No realtime pitch changing and editing like the others, in the way I built them, but perfect for background drone fields or industrial landscapes.

I recently have gotten a SparkFun Tsunami board with is like the WavTrigger but more powerful. It has 8 channels of output. When I'm done making that module, it will replace the WavTriggers. I will take full use of the multi channels. On the WavTrigger boards I have used drum loops hard panned to one side with custom "beep" tracks panned to the other side. These beep tracks are plugged into a Doepfer Envelope follower and gates are made to drive other parts of the rig in sync. An easy way to have a sync from any sample. With 8 channels, you can have multiple sync tracks with different rhythms.

I started out using the whole rig to make samples the play back on these players, and then using the rig to modify them, but since I upgraded to Reason 10, the Grain module may soon be the source of much of my waves to play on them. LOTS of possibilities there. br> br>