Article says he never interviewed. Basic problem we all knew, no "gm" is going to want to come in without final say on roster. We won't have a guy labeled GM.

Get ready to find a guy who evaluates talent but has no say in the final roster. That's what we're about to get.

Considering we already hired people to negotiate contracts and manage the cap, our "GM/DPP/whatever" wouldn't have full GM responsibilities anyway.

Some of us are acting we'd be the only team in the league whose GM doesn't have final say on the roster. That's clearly not the case.

Give me a damn good personnel guy, and I'll be more than happy with the staff that's been hired._________________Suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope.It will happen some day. Not sure when.

Article says he never interviewed. Basic problem we all knew, no "gm" is going to want to come in without final say on roster. We won't have a guy labeled GM.

Get ready to find a guy who evaluates talent but has no say in the final roster. That's what we're about to get.

I don't know why it would scare so many off. It works well in Seattle. I don't know if New England has a GM but it works well there with BB having final say.

I think it can work well either way, but if you were really good at evaluating talent and had a good history of it, you might want more prestige.

On the other hand, if you find a good talent evaluator that hasn't quite earned the prestige yet (an up and coming guy), he would tend to be more accepting of less control.

True.

Until he gets poached for a team who will give him full control.

I'm just saying I'd rather have it the way we had it with Heckert. Right now Joe Banner has final say and from the sounds of it, his player control history isn't much to write home about._________________

Article says he never interviewed. Basic problem we all knew, no "gm" is going to want to come in without final say on roster. We won't have a guy labeled GM.

Get ready to find a guy who evaluates talent but has no say in the final roster. That's what we're about to get.

I don't know why it would scare so many off. It works well in Seattle. I don't know if New England has a GM but it works well there with BB having final say.

I think it can work well either way, but if you were really good at evaluating talent and had a good history of it, you might want more prestige.

On the other hand, if you find a good talent evaluator that hasn't quite earned the prestige yet (an up and coming guy), he would tend to be more accepting of less control.

True.

Until he gets poached for a team who will give him full control.

Well, we can certainly talk about that if and when it happens. Still, even if it did happen, all it would mean is that another team saw the guy as more than we did.

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I'm just saying I'd rather have it the way we had it with Heckert. Right now Joe Banner has final say and from the sounds of it, his player control history isn't much to write home about.

I was under the impression that Banner has a voice, but not the final say. I think that Chud may have more of a voice than Banner on roster calls. Did you read something that said different?

And yeah, I wanted to keep Heckert because he had shown that he could do a good job with talent selection. I don't think Heckert having final say on the roster is as important to the 2013 Browns as it was to the 2010-2012 Browns._________________

This is just a random thought, but I've always found it strange that very few fired GM's land as a GM of another team (whether it's right away or down the road).

When a HC gets fired, it's not unusual to see them resurface as a HC either immediately or down the road. It seems like fired GM's never get another chance, except for very few exceptions._________________Suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope.It will happen some day. Not sure when.

Article says he never interviewed. Basic problem we all knew, no "gm" is going to want to come in without final say on roster. We won't have a guy labeled GM.

Get ready to find a guy who evaluates talent but has no say in the final roster. That's what we're about to get.

I don't know why it would scare so many off. It works well in Seattle. I don't know if New England has a GM but it works well there with BB having final say.

I think it can work well either way, but if you were really good at evaluating talent and had a good history of it, you might want more prestige.

On the other hand, if you find a good talent evaluator that hasn't quite earned the prestige yet (an up and coming guy), he would tend to be more accepting of less control.

True.

Until he gets poached for a team who will give him full control.

Well, we can certainly talk about that if and when it happens. Still, even if it did happen, all it would mean is that another team saw the guy as more than we did.

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I'm just saying I'd rather have it the way we had it with Heckert. Right now Joe Banner has final say and from the sounds of it, his player control history isn't much to write home about.

I was under the impression that Banner has a voice, but not the final say. I think that Chud may have more of a voice than Banner on roster calls. Did you read something that said different?

And yeah, I wanted to keep Heckert because he had shown that he could do a good job with talent selection. I don't think Heckert having final say on the roster is as important to the 2013 Browns as it was to the 2010-2012 Browns.

Some stuff stirring again on the GM front. Banner threw some teasers at the media yesterday.

- 1st wave of interviews almost completed. Browns have interviewed "about" 6 candidates.
- Banner said they have a frontrunner, but obviously declined to say who.
- Wouldn't confirm/deny any individual names (Farmer, Lombardi, etc.)
- Said new hire would likely carry title of GM, but not etched in stone.
- There's a rumor circulating that Mike Mayock was interviewed.
- Said one internal candidate will likely be interviewed.
- Said all current scouting staff is working as usual, including going to the Senior Bowl next week.

BTW the current scouting staff operated fine last year at the senior bowl and combine without Heckert as he was recovering from surgery.

So the Browns should be fine with out a GM at the Senior Bowl if it comes down to it._________________The Dawgpounds new three headed monster!
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