I was sort of on the fence for a while, but not anymore thanks to the non tennis section here as well as the tv show house. Surprisingly I go to a catholic university, but that's because they have decent pharmacy program here. A few of my friends are quite religious, but with friends I try to refrain from dicussing two topics and that is religion and politics.

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Straight, White, Cisgendered, Christian Men should never ever talk about oppression. You people are the most privileged out there.

I'm supposed to be a Muslim, but I am not religious at all neither is my family. I don't believe in what is said in the Koran, but I respect the fact that others do. Does that make me agnostic?

One of my good friends is a muslim, although I don't think she is a good one, considering she drinks. Just for the fun of it, I tried fasting with her. I last a day. I thought I was doing well, but the second day I saw a box of entenmann's cookies and I wilted like a flower. Kind of sad really. I have no will power. Although I'm going strong in the vegetarian department. Two years and counting and this is coming from someone who used to be the biggest chicken lover.

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Straight, White, Cisgendered, Christian Men should never ever talk about oppression. You people are the most privileged out there.

I'm supposed to be a Muslim, but I am not religious at all neither is my family. I don't believe in what is said in the Koran, but I respect the fact that others do. Does that make me agnostic?

I think so.
If anything, I think that one should pick out the GOOD things of 'official' religions, and just ignore the bad. As such, I think that Jesus indeed said (if he ever did ) some great words, in his "Judge not, for you will be judged", just to name one, and to add another one, "Those who are about to throw the first stone... ".
I'm sure there are equally great liner notes in the Koran just the same.

Just pick out the GOOD things and ingnore the rest of it I think. I guess that makes me an agnost as well. Though, deep in my heart, I'm more of an atheist.

One of my good friends is a muslim, although I don't think she is a good one, considering she drinks. Just for the fun of it, I tried fasting with her. I last a day. I thought I was doing well, but the second day I saw a box of entenmann's cookies and I wilted like a flower. Kind of sad really. I have no will power. Although I'm going strong in the vegetarian department. Two years and counting and this is coming from someone who used to be the biggest chicken lover.

My family have never been of the religious kind and have never put any kinds of pressure on me to do certain things. I have tried fasting myself, but after I got some bladder problems due to lack of water that's when I had to stop forever. Really I find some of the stuff that you are required to do in a religion ridiculous, but if it gives people inner peace then I guess that's an advantage . Not for me though, I find it hard to believe that there is a supreme power out there.

My family have never been of the religious kind and have never put any kinds of pressure on me to do certain things. I have tried fasting myself, but after I got some bladder problems due to lack of water that's when I had to stop forever. Really I find some of the stuff that you are required to do in a religion ridiculous, but if it gives people inner peace then I guess that's an advantage . Not for me though, I find it hard to believe that there is a supreme power out there.

My family has never been the religious kind either. Atleast my immediate family anyway. My family in india on the other hand, very religious. Especially my grandmother and my uncle on my mom's side. When I went to india a few summers ago, we went to quite a few temples and it was painful. Although in one temple I got blessed by elephant. lol. In case your wondering what that is, you basically give some money to the elephant and ittakes it with his trunk and it puts it down and then taps you on your head. Well it was more than just a tap. There is actually this one temple in south india where my mom used to live that is on top of a hill and you have to climb over 2000 steps to get to it. I'd definitely like to try it someday.

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Straight, White, Cisgendered, Christian Men should never ever talk about oppression. You people are the most privileged out there.

I think so.
If anything, I think that one should pick out the GOOD things of 'official' religions, and just ignore the bad. As such, I think that Jesus indeed said (if he ever did ) some great words, in his "Judge not, for you will be judged", just to name one, and to add another one, "Those who are about to throw the first stone... ".
I'm sure there are equally great liner notes in the Koran just the same.

Just pick out the GOOD things and ingnore the rest of it I think. I guess that makes me an agnost as well. Though, deep in my heart, I'm more of an atheist.

Well said, Karin

I mean the things like "no lying", "no stealing" etc etc that are part of nearly every religion was a big part of my upbringing anyway, without the religious reference to it, however. For me, believing in a religion should be a thing to find inner peace, and not to create global war like it has done for centuries. I hate it when they force people into believing stuff they don't want to believe, I hate it when countries dictate what the other's faith should be. Religion should be something personal in my opinion.

I mean the things like "no lying", "no stealing" etc etc that are part of nearly every religion was a big part of my upbringing anyway, without the religious reference to it, however. For me, believing in a religion should be a thing to find inner peace, and not to create global war like it has done for centuries. I hate it when they force people into believing stuff they don't want to believe, I hate it when countries dictate what the other's faith should be. Religion should be something personal in my opinion.

- I'd like to take it even further - I happen to believe that one does not need any a religion to believe that any of the points you pointed out right there are bad/wrong or right.
If there's anything pissing me off BIG TIME right now, it's the concept of people claiming that they are 'better people' just because they claim to be religious.

Well, eh - NO!!! in all, eventually, it's just a matter of 'treat people the way YOU want to be treated! - friendly, courtagiously, with RESPECT, whatever their circumstances!
I think it's a rather arrogant claim of the 'religious folks' to think that they are better at that than the non-religious folks, in fact....

You don't have to believe in any kind of a 'god' to be able to accept that as a guidance in your life... at least that's what I believe in.
Unless you're not brought up appropriately, of course.

Sleep well all of you folks!
And let's join in to cheer for Roger asap heh, .

gnite karin and to everyone else as well. It was nice chatting with all of you. I hope to be there in the cheering thread on wednesday, although I have no idea when the match will be or the time difference between here and monte carlo. Hopefully its not too early in the morning.

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Straight, White, Cisgendered, Christian Men should never ever talk about oppression. You people are the most privileged out there.