Ryan and Phillip are joined by friends Debbie Hogue-Downing and Sean Cummings to discuss the convention season craziness.

While Sean was on the ground in Cleveland, Debbie was on the convention floor in Philadelphia. What happened behind the scenes? What was the mood like? What encouraged you/disturb you? All of these questions were answered by our special guests. The key takeaway was that although there were four distinct individuals around the microphone with four distinct ideas on politics, but we were able to have a conversation that respected each other views and respected each other’s humanity.