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I have just found this site and it is only now that I have found out that one of the boys has died. I have shed a few tears, as I followed them for several years on the tv. I wanted to see them one day and its sad to know that now one of them is missing.

Hello Cheetah LoverWelcome to WAA. Your not on your own with sheading tears there were quite a few at the time, and stillare when we think of the three. however the two surving brothers are doing OK. We are still getting news, and updates about them from all our friends in the Masai Mara, so keep looking in for newsWS( Whitestarling )

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Hi cheetahloverA warm welcome to WAA, glad you found us and please do feel free to join in on all the chat. You may want to take a look in the web cam section and check out our cheetah cubs tail, its a cam following a mum and her three new born cheetah cubs, alternatively on the home page click on the picture of the cheetah and it will take you straight there, I reckon you will love it.

So very sad about the brother that lost his life, we all had a good cry as well but as it's already been said, the remaining two are doing well, which is lovely and a credit to Honey.

Enjoy the forum and look forward to hearing more from you.littlewid-x-

I ask simply because there is a video, it appears to be cut from an American documentary (Jonathan Scott) is at the start very briefly. That shows 3 male cheetahs (brothers) trying to mate with a female, when a Male lion turned up and killed the female, followed by one of the 3 males.

I am reluctant to post the link, I wish I had not seen it (whoever the cheetah is) and am sure many of you wont want too.

So if anyone has seen the video, or the documentary it was for do they know if it was of Honey's boys?

Hello RaD, I have seen the show the clip you are referring to is from and I too didn't like seeing it. It is so tragic but It happens more than you would think. To answer your question, no, the cheetahs in the documentary are not Honey's Boys. Thankfully there were no cameras around when one of them was caught and killed, presumably by a lion. As hard as it was to watch it was a very interesting documentary. There really was no good reason for the lions to kill cheetahs as they really don't compete for the same prey. In reality, they concluded, it would actually be a benefit for lions to have cheetahs around because they are very easy to steal kills from with little effort. They figured that lions simply don't know the difference between leopards, an actual rival for much of the same prey, and cheetahs.

Welcome to WAA RadSadly these things happen, and as Ronnie says there were no cameras around when one of Honeys Boys was killed. With these sort of clips when they are posted, we give a brief explanation of the content, and a warning that it may be upsetting to view. Then each member cn make their own choice on wether to watch it. As a new member you will not be able to post links, or pictures, untill you have been a member for 7 Days. Lions as Ronnie said would logicaly be better off letting Cheetahs, make the kills then take it off them, it would take a lot less energy, but its the survival instinct in all predators to remove food conpetitors. Lions will kill Cheetahs, Hyenas, and Leopards. Hyenas will kill Lion Cubs, Cheetahs, and Leopards if they can. Leopards can take Cheetahs out. The Cheetah unfortunatly being the lightest of the predators is at the bottom of the chain. At the moment hardly any Cheetahs have been seen in the Masai Mara, not only do they have to survive against all the other predators, but also local farmers who will kill the to protect livestock.

WSWhitestarling

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Hi guys thanks for the replies.Yeah I was thinking about it last night, not making much sense seeing as they go for completely different prey and a cheetah is no threat to a lion whatsoever. Would a cheetah go for a lion cub if it found it though, no other lions in the area? Or would they assume there were others near by and move away?

Thanks for the information too, I was not aware that I was unable to post links at the moment, but as I said I was reluctant too anyway.

Hi RadThe 7 day rule is a security thing, and applies to all new members, it's part of the Forums site. Hope your OK with that.I've never heard, or seen any reports of a Cheetah taking a Lion Cub, just the scent of Lion is enough for them to vacate the area. Lion Cubs are very rarely left on their own, it only usualy happens, if it is a Lioness without a pride, and she is forced to hunt for her own food. The only other time is when a Lioness gives birth she will take herslef away from the pride to somewhere quite, and hidden away to have her cubs, and then when she judges the time is right she will introduce them to the other pride members. Hyenas are the biggest danger to Lion Cubs, they will have no hesitation in taking them if the opportunity arises.WS

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Very true RaD its bewildering at times, but wildlife does'nt follow our laws of logic, it's instinctive and follows natures laws, and the instincts in its DNA from how evolved.We currently have a web cam thats following a Cheetah Mum, and her 3 cubs, who it is hoped will be eventualy be released into the wild. The Mum has just moved the Cubs outside, and we hope a new cam will be up, and running in the next 24Hrs so we will be able to follow them as they grow up. The cam is in the Wildlife Web Cam section on the home page, but to save you lookin this is the link, just click on it, and you can catch up on the story so farhttps://wildaboutanimals.forumotion.net/t1612-a-cheetah-cubs-tail#32600WS

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Thanks Whitestarling, that looks really great. I hope they make it, Cheetahs are such beautiful and elegant cats. One day I hope I can go and see them in the wild, but it seems the numbers are dropping fast.

Hi RaDWelcome to the Forum. The others seem to have filled you in re Honeys boys etc so I just wanted to say welcome and glad you have seen WS's link to the Cheetah Cub Tails cam, shortley, hopefully by tomorrow the outside cam will be up and running so we can see the next stage of their development.Enjoy the cam and enjoy the site. Good to have you with us.