JohnnyC:RedPhoenix122: Has it always been like this, or is it just recently that Jezebel seems to be nothing more than actively trying to look for things to be upset about? It's almost as bad as right-wing butthurt.

Always been like this. Though no reason to be vague... the "things to be upset about" you mentioned is always men. No matter what the subject is, it is the fault of men, men did it, men ruined it, men got in the way of it, men destroyed it, men oppressed it, or any other variation where men can be hated as a result of whatever the story is.

According to Jezebel.com, women are perfect examples of humanity and men are everything that is wrong with the world. That's about it.

Disappointed to find nobody working on the blowjob-to-sandwich conversion rate.

I'm willing to set the bar fairly low, since I love sandwiches and they never taste as good when I make them for myself. Sheer number of ingredients isn't important, assuming it's tasty. A delicious grilled ham-and-cheese, for example, would probably clock in at 0.5 bj. A well made Reuben could get as high as 1:1, assuming the corned beef is home cooked.

RedPhoenix122:Has it always been like this, or is it just recently that Jezebel seems to be nothing more than actively trying to look for things to be upset about? It's almost as bad as right-wing butthurt.

here to help:See... here's the thing. I don't care about these people. I do not care about the author's caring about these people and I do not care about subby's caring about the author's caring about these people.

Now all that is left to do is for some Fark snarkwit to come along and point out how my lack of caring is obviously false due to the fact I went to the bother of clicking the article, reading it then clicking on the thread and commenting on said article.

Jezebel was a princess, identified in the Hebrew Book of Kings as the daughter of Ethbaal, King of Tyre (Phoenicia) and the wife of Ahab, king of north Israel.

According to the biblical accounts, Jezebel incited her husband King Ahab to abandon the worship of Yahweh and encourage worship of the deities Baal and Asherah instead. Jezebel is said to have persecuted the prophets of Yahweh, and to have fabricated false evidence of blasphemy against an innocent landowner who refused to sell his property to King Ahab, causing the landowner to be put to death. For these transgressions against the God and people of Israel, the Bible relates, Jezebel met a gruesome death - thrown out of a window by members of her own court retinue, and the flesh of her corpse eaten by stray dogs.

Yeah... Nice farkin' role model, ladies.

Jezebel is where bitter, angry women go for their Two-Minutes' Hate... All day.

Damn you posted a lot of this thread... but the thing I don't get, and this is re: marriage.

Can you imagine how much money you would have saved on taxes alone?

Romantic nonsense aside, marriage has and always will be a financial arrangement in addition to whatever cultural flavor of lovey doveyness you ascribe to. That's just leaving money on the table, I don't get it.

Damn you posted a lot of this thread... but the thing I don't get, and this is re: marriage.

Can you imagine how much money you would have saved on taxes alone?

Romantic nonsense aside, marriage has and always will be a financial arrangement in addition to whatever cultural flavor of lovey doveyness you ascribe to. That's just leaving money on the table, I don't get it.

I'm no expert or anything, but I'm guessing that 90% of the story she's peddling has been either outright made up or dramatically overhyped in order to drum up additional traffic to her website. Nothing gains clicks more than saying something outrageous to the right newspaper that's geared to get the maximum amount of butthurt from both sides.

Damn you posted a lot of this thread... but the thing I don't get, and this is re: marriage.

Can you imagine how much money you would have saved on taxes alone?

Romantic nonsense aside, marriage has and always will be a financial arrangement in addition to whatever cultural flavor of lovey doveyness you ascribe to. That's just leaving money on the table, I don't get it.

Is this a trust troll?

He has a point. She could save herself some money on taxes and take half of his shiat if she ever decides to leave. There are zero downsides for her.

mediablitz:PsiChick: ReapTheChaos: PsiChick: mediablitz: The woman who wrote the story doesn't sound bitter AT ALL.

Because naturally, when watching someone make three hundred sandwiches for a guy whose morning line is 'why haven't you made me a sandwich yet', the first reaction is to be jealous and bitter that you can't attract THAT fine specimen of humanity.

/Seriously, articles like this are great reminders of why being single can be a good thing.

Perhaps if you read the woman's actual blog, instead of the rant filled man hate biatch fest on Jezebel, you would have a better understanding of the situation. But then again you may simply prefer to hate a guy you know nothing about.

Aaaand the guy still comes off as a social retard. It's not hate. Some people are jerks--on purpose or accidentally, whatever--and that's how the world spins. Just because Jezebel says something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong.

No. You made a snap judgement. You just admitted you didn't go to the woman's blog until I said something. Your confirmation bias was firmly in place. Nothing was going to change your mind.

Your critical thinking was non-existent.

I agreed with Jezebel yesterday regarding a real housewife and her husband promoting spousal rape. I agreed because I FOLLOWED UP beyond the initial story.

You were ready to hate, and Jezebel made it easy. Obfuscate all you want.

Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

JohnnyC:Literally Addicted: If my guy ever said 300 sandwiches = an engagement ring, I would make all 300 in one day and make him eat them and watched his stomach explode like the guy in Seven.

Perhaps you should warn him about this... He should know how easily you would go completely psychotic on him and attempt to kill him like a serial killer. It's only fair you warn him now before he makes the mistake of offering an engagement ring in an 'unapproved' fashion (or at all).

'Unapproved'? No - it was purely insulting. No person should think themselves such a great catch that they're willing to debase someone else to prove (or in this guy's case, bestow) their love. Its pure humiliation.

PsiChick:Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

Why do you seem so mad about it? What is this "anything else" that he should be focusing on more than his shared interests with his fellow foodie spouse?

I'm going to go ahead and say I think you're not being honest about this--either with us ITT or with yourself--and that you do, actually, care that it's a man that likes sandwiches and a woman who is "sticking around" with him. I call shenanigans on your "no matter what gender" unless you can convince me that this is otherwise worthy of such hatred in more detail than "that's stupid."

FrancoFile:Let me suggest an interpretation that's fair and reasonable to all involved.

"Make me 300 sandwiches" means "be involved with my life for a year, and do something kind, loving, supporting, and nurturing for me."

You only want to marry someone that you know well. You only want to marry someone who will do nice things for you. You only want to marry someone with staying power, who can show commitment to a promise and to a person.

Making 300 sandwiches is a way of demonstrating that she fits into those categories.

/or you can put an Oedipus complex interpretation on this//he wants to marry his mommy cause she makes sammidges for him///and cuts off the crust, too.

Given that interpretation - where was his show of committment? Or what did he do daily to be nice?

There's really not enough info in the TFA, or even the blog that indicated a 'give and take'.

Sure, I would snark about some guy being all caveman, but IRL, if its not equal, or close enough, forget it. Marrying someone you respect has staying power too.

Literally Addicted:JohnnyC: Literally Addicted: If my guy ever said 300 sandwiches = an engagement ring, I would make all 300 in one day and make him eat them and watched his stomach explode like the guy in Seven.

Perhaps you should warn him about this... He should know how easily you would go completely psychotic on him and attempt to kill him like a serial killer. It's only fair you warn him now before he makes the mistake of offering an engagement ring in an 'unapproved' fashion (or at all).

'Unapproved'? No - it was purely insulting. No person should think themselves such a great catch that they're willing to debase someone else to prove (or in this guy's case, bestow) their love. Its pure humiliation.

Relationships should be an equal partnership, not blackmail.

For a lot of men food really does equate to love. She's being a good lover, as is he apparently, since he seems to do a lot of culinary stuff as well. What you people being shocked about this don't seem to get is that they're likely bonding over a shared interest. It seems quite healthy to me. She clearly takes pride in creating these sandwiches, making each one unique. Who the fark are you to tell her she should feel humiliated?

"Make me 300 sandwiches" means "be involved with my life for a year, and do something kind, loving, supporting, and nurturing for me."

You only want to marry someone that you know well. You only want to marry someone who will do nice things for you. You only want to marry someone with staying power, who can show commitment to a promise and to a person.

Making 300 sandwiches is a way of demonstrating that she fits into those categories.

/or you can put an Oedipus complex interpretation on this//he wants to marry his mommy cause she makes sammidges for him///and cuts off the crust, too.

Given that interpretation - where was his show of committment? Or what did he do daily to be nice?

There's really not enough info in the TFA, or even the blog that indicated a 'give and take'.

Sure, I would snark about some guy being all caveman, but IRL, if its not equal, or close enough, forget it. Marrying someone you respect has staying power too.

It's like Jezebel readers intentionally ignore humor in order to be outraged by the bare words when it's a man saying them.

Clearly, the couple were having a laugh together and his statement was ironic, not a serious "get in there and make me a sammich, biatch."

I run into this a lot around here. People read my posts as if I'm speaking them in anger, and it never occurs to them that I'm laughing or smiling as I write. It's a joke, people. I swear, some of you were born ACHING to be offended.

Fafai:PsiChick:Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

Why do you seem so mad about it? What is this "anything else" that he should be focusing on more than his shared interests with his fellow foodie spouse?

I'm going to go ahead and say I think you're not being honest about this--either with us ITT or with yourself--and that you do, actually, care that it's a man that likes sandwiches and a woman who is "sticking around" with him. I call shenanigans on your "no matter what gender" unless you can convince me that this is otherwise worthy of such hatred in more detail than "that's stupid."

/you make me lol sometimes//thank you :)

Um...I'm not actually mad. I'm just rolling my eyes. I'm annoyed that someone decided that my logic sucked because I don't hate Jezebel, but I'm not mad at the couple. Not sure why I'm coming off that way, sorry.

"Make me 300 sandwiches" means "be involved with my life for a year, and do something kind, loving, supporting, and nurturing for me."

You only want to marry someone that you know well. You only want to marry someone who will do nice things for you. You only want to marry someone with staying power, who can show commitment to a promise and to a person.

Making 300 sandwiches is a way of demonstrating that she fits into those categories.

/or you can put an Oedipus complex interpretation on this//he wants to marry his mommy cause she makes sammidges for him///and cuts off the crust, too.

Given that interpretation - where was his show of committment? Or what did he do daily to be nice?

There's really not enough info in the TFA, or even the blog that indicated a 'give and take'.

Sure, I would snark about some guy being all caveman, but IRL, if its not equal, or close enough, forget it. Marrying someone you respect has staying power too.

...So you just assume he's a total dick, naturally.

I said no such thing. I said there wasn't enough info to indicate...oh, nevermind. Read it how you want.

It's like people think she's weak or "giving in" to her man as though loving union were a constant bloody battle between two hate-fueled combatants or some shiat. It never occurs to them that someone who gives selflessly could be happy or strong. They fail to see that by saying "I'll marry you at 300," he is subverting the traditional gender/power roles and putting the ball in her court, effectively giving her the power to propose, as it were. You'd think these people would recognize and appreciate that kind of stuff but all they want to do is hate.

PsiChick:Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

I feel sorry for your love life if you don't see there is at least a chance that this is a romantic gesture based on a non serious joke. Jezebel's response is infantile. Why do you think it is healthy to view every action as some power game?

I'm thinking it is an act. No one would put up with her shrill non-sense for any period of time. She is either: lonely and bitter, a hypocrite who says things for a paycheck or a self hating feminist. You cannot believe that crazy stuff and be in an adult relationship. I guess I left out that she has found herself a sufficiently self loathing male, but that just brings us back to hypocrite.

lockers:PsiChick:Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

I feel sorry for your love life if you don't see there is at least a chance that this is a romantic gesture based on a non serious joke. Jezebel's response is infantile. Why do you think it is healthy to view every action as some power game?

Well, yes, there is a chance, I just don't think it's very likely based on how the author of the blog is phrasing things and talking about what she does.

I am also firmly of the opinion that most people in love are stupid anyway. Myself included.

Did I say if MY guy tried to equate making sandwiches to a requirement in earning a proposal of marriage that I would make him eat all 300 at once until he busted a gut? Yes.

If you're going to pick on what I say, at least have the courtesy to read.

In your hypothetical, your man is a stand-in for this guy just as you are a stand-in for her. You set up the same scenario except with you and your man in their places so you could demonstrate how it should have gone and show this poor woman how she should have reacted. Which was to commit murder by sandwich.

PsiChick:lockers: PsiChick:Hey, genius? It's not a snap judgement if you're reading excerpts from the blog...that turn out to be literally the content of the page. Jezebel didn't take anything out of context, didn't screw up facts. It's the same damn scenario--a moran cares more about sandwiches than anything else, and another moran is sticking around for some reason. That's stupid. It'd be stupid no matter what gender was on what side, what color the people involved, or if the people involved were three-headed aliens.

I feel sorry for your love life if you don't see there is at least a chance that this is a romantic gesture based on a non serious joke. Jezebel's response is infantile. Why do you think it is healthy to view every action as some power game?

Well, yes, there is a chance, I just don't think it's very likely based on how the author of the blog is phrasing things and talking about what she does.

I am also firmly of the opinion that most people in love are stupid anyway. Myself included.