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Dougie

When will sales results be announced?

I have a feeling it will be bad. Note 2, S3 and iPhone 5 are too good.

Frankie

Sales will be awesome, they are selling like hot cakes.

Weirdfisher

not good in hong kong

arts

Not amazing in Malaysia either. Its Samsung land now.

sdf

very bad in singapore

SG

Not sure.. But whenever I want to get my hands on Lumia 920.. Its always out of stock..

DesR85

Almost the same when I was in KL during Christmas, except that it was only yellow and red which are out of stock. Black and white are still available, though.

Only when I was back in Miri, my home town, did I notice its absence. Only the 820 is in stock and no retailer stock the 920, not even the Nokia-affiliated ones. One of them did, though, but it was out of stock by then and the only available colours are black and white. Thank goodness I got the chance to play around with the 920 demo unit at the Nokia stores while I was in KL before heading back home.

dansus

Expect 2-3 million. Not stella.

dss

For the whole Lumia line ? That would be telling… maybe 2-3 mil. just for the 920.. but that might be more wishful thinking than anything.

DJ

In USA WP share dropped to only 3% from 3.6% last month.

JGrove303

…overall in the US. That stat didn’t account for smartphone market growth.

But that’s the beauty of statistics: you can prove any BS.

swain

Definitely the sales figure will be pathetic when comparing to numbers of Note2/S3/iP5. But certainly it’s going to be good enough considering Nokia’s current brand value and market position. As I said earlier, a 10 million lumia sales will bring Nokia back on track to move ahead boldly.

Ere oli aliarvostettu

It’s highly unlikely that Nokia sold 10 million WP phones in Q4 2012. Yes, there was some people suggesting that and it was not completely impossible, but it was extremely unlikely.

Tomi Ahonen is forecasting that Nokia sold 2,5 Million WP phones in Q4 2012. Most people accusing Elop seem to consider Tomi as a messiah praising the Truth about past and what is about to happen. Tomi Ahonen is the priest of this religion.

And no, this is not a joke. I really consider this to be a ‘religion’, just as much as any other platform has it’s followers. If people want to see all mobile platforms as a religious movements, we should talk about them as such. Occasionally.

After all, there are ‘religions’ and religions.

Yes, I know. We are supposed to be extremely serious here in MNB.

Jens

This religion, you can buy shares in.

swain

I know it’s highly unlikely that Nokia can sell 10M in Q4 or catch up to the competition anytime in near future. A 10 million mark was never impossible considering how we hear about the sold-out stories of Lumia 920.
If Apple can make 5 million iPhones to sell in first week of lauch then why can’t Nokia. Ohh..I forgot, they are closing factories and selling offices(few argue that it’s for good reasons which I find hard to believe).
2-5 million figure will kick in the face of all those who used to say that WP strategy is working fine and leave them nowhere to argue.
But certainly they had a chance which they missed. I will consider the unbearable delay/laziness/foolish strategy to be blamed for this unfortunate event if it happens in reality.
As I mentioned earlier, the 900 failed badly in many important markets due to delays. I afraid the 920 will have to suffer the same fate as next generation devices are already there and more will be announced during CES/MWC.

dss

Any sane person knows that 10 mil. lumia sales is.. out of the question at this point.

Ere oli aliarvostettu

Highly unlikely.

It will be interesting to see how well the supreme priest of the old school Nokia religion, Tomi Ahonen, will be able to forecast the Lumia sales.

Tomi Ahonen has foreseen that Nokia sold 2,5 million Lumia phones in Q4 2012. This forecast has not been widely doubted by the ‘flock’ admiring his faith.

MF

If Tomi had predicted 2.5 million, my guess is that it is almost impossible for sales to be below that, even under worst case scenario

Jens

January 24. Pull up a chair :-)!

torcida

The others are not too good, only Nokia sales are weak!!

eeteet

Lumias are rated as best phones but why they don’t sell like best? Why people prefer Android and iPhone?

DesR85

“Why people prefer Android and iPhone?”

In case of the former, it’s because of aggressive marketing from both Samsung (with financial backing from their home country, obviously) and HTC.

For the latter, while their marketing isn’t on par with Samsung, Apple managed to cultivate the perception of a luxury and trendy product in the iPhone, not to mention the late Jobs’ charisma in promoting it. Some people even want one just to jailbreak it in order to download paid apps and games for free.

Ere oli aliarvostettu

Or they prefer those because they are great products?

I just took a picture with my iPhone 4S and ordered a 30x20cm painting from that picture. No problems whatsoever with the image quality. The iPhone is just good enough and it’s balanced. That doesn’t mean that the current iPhone is the end of the evolution, but it’s great, today. Apple is even selling phones released in 2010, long before N8 and Symbian^3, and the iPhone 4 is a good products even today.

That’s what Nokia is doing with the Asha phones. Balanced phones with good enough features. Hopefully Nokia will be able to sell those phones for years.

S40 Asha OS (or whatever it should be called) seems to provide the best Nokia designed user experience Nokia has shipped for years. That’s really great.

DesR85

“I just took a picture with my iPhone 4S and ordered a 30x20cm painting from that picture. No problems whatsoever with the image quality. The iPhone is just good enough and it’s balanced. That doesn’t mean that the current iPhone is the end of the evolution, but it’s great, today. Apple is even selling phones released in 2010, long before N8 and Symbian^3, and the iPhone 4 is a good products even today.”

I’m not doubting their quality or what not, aside from the iPhone 4’s ‘death grip’ issue and iPhone 5’s ‘Scratchgate’ which affected those who are unlucky. Neither do I question Samsung or HTC or other Android partner’s phone quality. Those are not the point in my original post. I was merely stating why they are popular.

And the points I made above, plus what people see are popular, be it on advertisements, Telecom/operator deals or even among their peers (these points I omitted previously), are what encouraged them to get either the iPhones or Android phones.

Oh, and don’t forget apps and games, especially the popular ones. Also another reason why people will flock to either Android or the iPhones. Personally, I’d put them at the bottom of the list when shopping for a new smartphone, but it does matter to a lot of them, especially those coming from the above camps.

The Lumias and Windows Phone in general have a much bigger mindshare amongst the enthusiasts like us. Enthusiasts are the leading edge and WP is slowly making inroads amongst the consumer but the iOS/Android juggernaut is a wicked nut to crack even when you have the best products.

There was been a definite uptick with the release of WP8 and Nokia’s 2nd gen Lumias and Europe is looking particularly encouraging. The prejudices amongst the frontline carrier employees are making things really tough for WP sales in North America and Nokia’s exclusivity has backfired in NA as well.

DesR85

“The Lumias and Windows Phone in general have a much bigger mindshare amongst the enthusiasts like us. Enthusiasts are the leading edge and WP is slowly making inroads amongst the consumer but the iOS/Android juggernaut is a wicked nut to crack even when you have the best products.”

Seems like a while ago that Android was considered a geek (or enthusiast) device. Have to hand it to both Samsung and HTC for making their Android devices cool among the masses while being ‘geeky’ at the same time in terms of specs.

dss

They don’t… its the carriers who prefer them.

guerrahp

It sounds like a broken record but its always been the Metro design. It is ugly. It is boring even with those flippin tiles. Nokia needs to flex its muscle and provide an alternative out of the tiled/tired look.

arts

I’m pretty sure amazon is a bad way to measure the success of lumia products.

Or is this time and last time any different?

viipottaja

Amazon is just a part of the market, not the ultimate indicator of overall sales.

Andre C

This is the top rated list, not best sellers.

viipottaja

Of course, according to nn black and white being in stock proves there is no high demand for the 920.

to state the obvious again, any color variant being in or out of stock on Amazon proves nothing about overall demand or lack thereof, or even of overall supply or lack thereof.

DesR85

Well, Amazon is a big online retailer and for the Lumias to be listed at the top, it does count for something rather than nothing. That’s good news if you ask me.

But to use it to estimate overall sales is a stretch, and that I agree. Best to wait for feedback from other big online retailers like Newegg, Best Buy, Expansys, etc. to get a better picture.

DesR85

Scratch that remark. I thought it was an overall sales figure. Please delete it, thanks.

swain

While I am glad to see 920 in the top ranks, the presence of 900 certainly makes me to doubt on the credibility of this ranking.

ermmm , those of u who say the 920 isn`t selling well , the figures say otherwise , at least for the moment … I refer u to Ewan Spence`s AAWP article about WP sales .
According to AdDuplex ( not to mention Gartner and FB ) WP sales r 4x what they were last year . Further , at 3 weeks , the 920 , BY ITSELF , had 3% of the WP market , latest figures show that WP8 accounts for 43% of the WP market . Also , I`m invoking the sources please requiem !
OTOH , the real test is this year , and it`s most interesting that Nokia is working on a 920 successor , possibly a 10 series Lumia ?