[quote="Chris P"]When the turkish pop diva & the kurdish roots diva hooked-up:(Pauline do you know what they're saying in the joking talky interlude?)

Well I WAS going to ask Aydın but I persevered...not good but I got enough to understand Aynur accused Dev Dev (da bald guy!) of being lazy & letting the girls do all the work! He feigns to go offstage then Sertab calls him back ... more I listen more I like - all of them superb (tho' I'm no expert - only a 'listener' here nr Izmir) - PS When is Phil going to keep his promise & venture to see us here for a day in Foça (or Izmir??) nxt time he's at Mt A?? (probably more difficult than I think - any fares to Turkey (from anywhere!) seem horribly expensive....thank goodness people visit me from afar - I never go anywhere out of Turkey these days - no complaints - beautiful country, people and culture.

good translatin' Pauline ! & thanks to everyone for feeding-back on that post.

I may lose everyone now, but I hope not. Here's some video of Ayşenur Kolivar (the slender woman in white also singing with Aynur & Sertab in the rocking clip) with 2 other musicians from the group Helesa. They're all from the Black Sea (Kara Deniz) area and specialize in that region's distinctive music.

This is a little hardcore ethnic for some, but its very vibrant exceptional stuff (sorry TV recording not highest quality)

I'm now off to Turkey for a short time (not going near Izmir this time Pauline, but I'm sure Phil will take you up on that invite in the future!). We'll be just missing a gig today by Helesa as it happens.

The same song (Posa Xronia Disexta) in studio form dubbed on to same live footage. More vocal skill & ornamentation, but less rock n roll in attitude:http://youtu.be/40nzRQ5TOrY

Psaronikos is a nickname as it is customary for people in Anogeia to have. His grandfather was Psarantonis (the elder). His grandfather kept company with a group of 5-6 men who stole from the Turks. As he was the fastest runner in the group, when they met with Turks he was running very fast and he could catch all of them as if they were fish. So, first he was given the name Fishturk (Greek: 'Ψαρότουρκος')and then the nickname Psarantonis. That is how all family male members after him were nicknamed Psaronikos, Psarogiorgis, Psarantonis etc

She is fabulous - one of Charlie's favourites - I always feel when I look at this clip that the guy in the baseball cap is slightly incongruous - no doubt he's enjoying himself though -one of her happier songs, I always sing along (as best I can!) -

Well I can only sing along to the chorus Chris - I think AD is really at her best doing the traditional stuff - I would probably give Limon Kurd a miss really....

The Rembetiko docu on the other hand is just fab - I'll be checking out the others too - thanks for the introduction - I have one or two Turkish friends here on F/Book who often put interesting Rembetiko snippets on also - I'm quite fascinated and have been told by another Turkish pal that it kinda equates to the Turkish Arabesque style which I also really like.

Best regards

Pauline

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Thanks for the introduction to Aysenur Kolivar, Chris. You certainly didn't lose me; I'll keep an ear out for more of her. She has a lovely plaintive tone, and great rhythmic intensity. I could listen to a lot more of the string player than the bald criminal. Here's an adventurous track featuring AK with some fine harmonica playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF52uy6r ... re=related

enjoyed your picks Pauline, especially the rembetiko. I heard Ibrahim Tatlises had been shot in the head & could hardly believe it, also heard Sertab & Dev Dev have split up. Bet the Turkish tabloids have run on these ad-nauseam..

Charlie - great Aysenur finds, especially the first one with moothie, really glad you're into her singing/music.

If you've got a facebook account, here's a new and good Aysenur Kolivar video, sound quality poor, but it's a great song & performance, & in this case I really like the rave gig lighting - enjoyable visually: