tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post6182480834385313694..comments2020-05-15T23:54:08.030-07:00Comments on <center>City Of Angels International Christian Church (ICC) Blog</center>: The International College of Christian Ministry (ICCM)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-48721830320160417132020-01-12T16:43:52.562-08:002020-01-12T16:43:52.562-08:00Anonymous 09/15/17-LOL!!! Highly DOUBT it. If Ke...Anonymous 09/15/17-LOL!!! Highly DOUBT it. If Kelly Bartholomew was issued a Master&#39;s Degree and then &quot;voted&quot; in as valedictorian (again, LOL!!!), the curriculum can&#39;t be that hard. All ICCM &quot;graduates&quot; are in for a rude awakening when they have to apply for real jobs and are hit with the realization that reputable employers/companies actually conduct thorough background checks and will call bogus on their fake degrees. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-29213853085527479212020-01-12T14:20:46.655-08:002020-01-12T14:20:46.655-08:00Not only is Mike Patterson a &quot;false brother&q...Not only is Mike Patterson a &quot;false brother&quot; in the church universal, he&#39;s also a huge PR disaster for the ICC organization. In a recent Facebook thread that has since gone &quot;viral&quot; among ICC/ICOC members, Mike claims the ICC has &quot;too many&quot; elders for him to name. He cites Titus 1:5-7, “An elder must be blameless, married only once with believing children who are not accused of licentiousness or rebellious…” and then identifies a few of these elders (or &quot;shepherds&quot; as the ICC calls them) in the Los Angeles/New York church and says about 6 elders have been recently appointed in the Midwest ICC.<br /><br />Research on these supposed &quot;elders&quot; (ahem &quot;shepherds&quot;) reveals that some have been married more than once and have children who are not only “unbelievers” (by ICC standards) but also identify with the LGBTQ lifestyle which, by the way, Mike would certainly consider licentious based on his incessant and obnoxious Facebook posts against homosexuality. So according to Titus (which Mike referenced), these folks don&#39;t qualify as elders. Sorry.<br /><br />Mike&#39;s explanation that the ICC chooses to use &quot;Shepherd vs. elder so as not to confuse us with the Church of Christ/Mormons&quot; is hogwash. He knows full well that many (if not most) of these “shepherds” are BIBLICALLY UNQUALIFIED for the role of eldership and THAT’S WHY they&#39;re not referred to as elders. <br /><br />This gives the ICC wiggle room to spin and deny (something they do very well) when the qualifications of these so called &quot;elders&quot; come into question. They&#39;ll undoubtedly claim, &quot;We ‘never’ said they were elders. We’ve always maintained they were simply &#39;shepherds&#39;&quot;.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-52255949295258319232019-12-18T02:22:53.153-08:002019-12-18T02:22:53.153-08:00https://www.alraid-sa.com
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Next time he starts spouting off about how &quot;SOLD OUT&quot; he, his wife and all the other members of the ICC supposedly are ask him to explain why he was &#39;SENT&#39; to New York (Hint: It has to do with porn and masturbation). Funny that Mike created a purity fight club a couple of years ago that required anyone who masturbated to double their tithe (eg. membership dues) each week. No wonder he and Chenelle are in ghastly debt (LOL!!!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-39550287499218151662019-09-16T17:21:19.904-07:002019-09-16T17:21:19.904-07:00To Anonymous July 13th, 2019-In response to your s...To Anonymous July 13th, 2019-In response to your statement, &quot;there are few students paying $6,000 a year...&quot; You need to be reminded that this is a fictitious school. NO ONE should be paying 6 cents let alone 6k. Shame on you for trying to justify and defend a scam like the ICCM. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-27480561876212666142019-09-04T21:27:42.006-07:002019-09-04T21:27:42.006-07:00Hey guys-Just FYI if anyone associated with the IC...Hey guys-Just FYI if anyone associated with the ICCM on a staff level (eg. like Tim Kernan the Vice Chancellor of Operations and Mike Patterson the &quot;president&quot; of the New York ICCM) is stating that the school is &quot;fully accredited&quot; needs to be reported to the BPPE as these are false claims/statements and can result in the ICCM&#39;s operating license being revoked. Kip and his leaders are known for these type of deceptive practices like requiring their members&#39; to solicit donations for church sponsored retreats, teen camps, conferences, etc. while wearing their green M.E.R.C.Y. shirts. M.E.R.C.Y. is the supposed &quot;benevolent arm&quot; of the ICC to &quot;provide relief and care to the poor and needy&quot; of the city. Any funds collected while wearing these shirts should go to the poor and needy and NOT to pay the outrageous registration fees for church events. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-58263221985299518172019-09-02T13:53:27.001-07:002019-09-02T13:53:27.001-07:00LOL! Mike Patterson also claims he is a world ren...LOL! Mike Patterson also claims he is a world renowned speaker, best selling author and performance artist (insert hysterical laughing emoji here) Just remember, this is the same guy who created a fake Face Book account posing as a female to cat fish his wife (Can you say, WEIRDO?!?). Since Mike loves top 10 lists, someone needs to make one counting off the top 10 reasons he&#39;s a D.W.E.E.B.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-5429860599575832592019-09-02T09:08:43.906-07:002019-09-02T09:08:43.906-07:00Anonymous April 8, 2015-The problem isn&#39;t that...Anonymous April 8, 2015-The problem isn&#39;t that Kip started his own school, it&#39;s that he, Tim Kernan, Mike Patterson and everyone else involved in their pseudo-university are claiming that the school and their degrees are &quot;accredited&quot;. Kip in his very words writes, &quot;All of this work will be &quot;accredited&quot; as a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Ministry...&quot; From the 2017 commencement ceremony, Tim asserts that &quot;the ICCM is fully &quot;accredited&quot;. Mike Patterson in a recent FB post dated 09/01/19 on Ryan Casarez page states the school is &quot;accredited&quot; in California then tried to wiggle out of it when he was challenged about the validity of this statement saying there are &quot;different levels&quot; of accreditation. Not when it comes to educational accreditation, Mike! A college/university is either accredited or it&#39;s not. In order for a post secondary institution to be accredited it MUST obtain accreditation through a national or regional accrediting body RECOGNIZED by the U.S. Department of Education which the ICCM has not done and cannot do. The California BPPE is not an accrediting agency. It&#39;s not even part of the Department of Education. It&#39;s a unit of the California Department of Consumer Affairs and it&#39;s basic function is to simply issue licenses to people (like Kip) who want to start their own school. ANYONE can start a school as long as they meet the BPPE&#39;s minimum standard/requirement. It&#39;s not hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-3629708174189288282019-09-01T19:24:02.277-07:002019-09-01T19:24:02.277-07:00As a side note, can someone please tell Mike Patte...As a side note, can someone please tell Mike Patterson that: <br />1) He is NOT a professor. Technically, in order to secure the title of &quot;Professor&quot; a person must have a doctoral degree in their field issued from an accredited university which the ICCM is not. <br />2) There is no such thing as &quot;different levels&quot; of educational accreditation (like Mike ignorantly claimed on a FB post) when it pertains to post secondary institutions. They&#39;re either accredited or they&#39;re not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-56210613967304952862019-09-01T19:00:58.708-07:002019-09-01T19:00:58.708-07:00Per the BPPE website, &quot;The BPPE is not an acc...Per the BPPE website, &quot;The BPPE is not an accrediting agency. Its primary purpose is to prevent fraudulent diploma mills.&quot; They&#39;re certainly doing a poor job regulating the degrees the ICCM is issuing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-13543599442518896722019-09-01T18:53:28.916-07:002019-09-01T18:53:28.916-07:00To Anonymous January 7th/June 15th: Per the ICCM w...To Anonymous January 7th/June 15th: Per the ICCM website,&quot;The tuition for each of the three (four month) trimesters of a calendar year will be $2,000 per trimester.&quot; So both of you are saying the ICCM website is incorrect despite it being clearly posted for the public to read? WOW! Maybe you should let Karen (nee Marcel) Gregory, know she needs to make a correction. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-67528821973908458712019-09-01T18:40:23.552-07:002019-09-01T18:40:23.552-07:00To Anonymous July 13, 2019-Interesting. Did Kip&#...To Anonymous July 13, 2019-Interesting. Did Kip&#39;s parents also pay for their education when all 3 attended the prestigious and very private Brentwood Preparatory Academy(Note: Arnold Schwarzenegger kids also went to this school) where annual tuition is over $37,000??? And regarding your claim that there are &quot;very few cases of members being encouraged to drop out of regular colleges to attend the ICCM&quot; is contrary to what Tim Kernan stated during his 2017 commencement speech where he proudly announced that many of these students have left their UC/State schools for the ICCM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-18928817561810497742019-09-01T18:18:36.270-07:002019-09-01T18:18:36.270-07:00For the record, Kip&#39;s school the ICCM is NOT a...For the record, Kip&#39;s school the ICCM is NOT an ACCREDITED institution!!! Kip and his cronies basically obtained a &quot;license&quot; to open shop via the California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education (BPPE) which is a unit of the California Department of Community Affairs and has NOTHING to do with accrediting schools/universities. Basically, anyone in the state of California can start a private school as long as it meets the BPPE&#39;s bare minimum standards/requirements. An actual accreditation is obtained through a national or regional accrediting body recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. So when Kip, Tim Kernan and especially Mike Patterson claim the ICCM is &quot;accredited&quot; they are shamelessly deceiving not only its members but all the families who attend their loved ones&#39; ICCM graduation ceremony believing they earned a valid degree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-20948538939662158042019-07-13T07:46:49.003-07:002019-07-13T07:46:49.003-07:00Any ICCM Bachelor&#39;s student working for the ch...Any ICCM Bachelor&#39;s student working for the church (paid or self-supporting) does not pay, so there are few students paying $6,000 a year. Most of the people teching and on the board already work for the church in another capacity and choose to volunteer their time to work for the college.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-38559100023368928052019-07-13T07:41:17.219-07:002019-07-13T07:41:17.219-07:00Kip Mckean has publicly stated that his parents (w...Kip Mckean has publicly stated that his parents (who did not work for the church) paid for a significant portion of his children&#39;s education, and at least two of them had substantial scholarships.<br /><br />There are very few cases of members being encouraged to drop out of &quot;regular&quot; colleges to attend ICCM. Most ICCM students are dual-enrolled or were not in college to begin with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4825487692627607933.post-40174322115132279082019-05-15T22:40:51.139-07:002019-05-15T22:40:51.139-07:00jordan shoes
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