I have a baker creek catalogue from a couple years back (this is me being picky) but I find it waaay more difficult to navigate than southern exposure its a small gripe but like if I see a pic of say a tomato that piques my interest the freaking description may be 5 pages back I feel like I'm all over the place reading it lol

Yep, still like that. I am working my way through my current one and it's definitely more frustrating than Seed Savers. Those are the only two I've actually received, though I think I have another couple coming. Seed Savers has fewer seeds, but they have a picture of everything they sell, which is nice.

ok so, Gurney's is questionable, they may purchase from Seminis which is monsanto's seed house and whether they buy monsanto branded seed or not, yes that's indirectly supporting them. I would steer clear of any company that hem haw's their stance.

So I got a lot that I looked thru but will not order from, most notably burpee and jhonny's.

I WILL order from Territoral seed (I have actually been to their facility, it's not far from my grandparent's home in OR, SUPER SUPER nice people). They specialize in seed bred for northern climates and short wet growing seasons but have a nice over all variety. I love their line drawn seed packets.

Seed saver's exchange - this is my go-to company, their seed quality is incredible. I've had 95% germination or better on everything and their c/s is first class.

Baker creek - I love their crazy tempting varieties. I've had mixed results here. My personal opinion is that they don't breed out their lines long enough. I've encountered some poor germination and some weak strains. It's all in good fun finding a keeper heirloom in your garden though. Also, pay very close attention to seed quantity here, their packets are a bit more pricy for what you're actually getting.

Sand Hill preservation center - a poultry/heirloom seed source. They have some really old and rare varieties and you're not going to get a lot of bells and whistles here with glossy photos or packets or fancy ordering. But they do have an amazing catalogue of hard-to-find's.

ok so, Gurney's is questionable, they may purchase from Seminis which is monsanto's seed house and whether they buy monsanto branded seed or not, yes that's indirectly supporting them. I would steer clear of any company that hem haw's their stance.

So I got a lot that I looked thru but will not order from, most notably burpee and jhonny's.

I WILL order from Territoral seed (I have actually been to their facility, it's not far from my grandparent's home in OR, SUPER SUPER nice people). They specialize in seed bred for northern climates and short wet growing seasons but have a nice over all variety. I love their line drawn seed packets.

Seed saver's exchange - this is my go-to company, their seed quality is incredible. I've had 95% germination or better on everything and their c/s is first class.

Baker creek - I love their crazy tempting varieties. I've had mixed results here. My personal opinion is that they don't breed out their lines long enough. I've encountered some poor germination and some weak strains. It's all in good fun finding a keeper heirloom in your garden though. Also, pay very close attention to seed quantity here, their packets are a bit more pricy for what you're actually getting.

Sand Hill preservation center - a poultry/heirloom seed source. They have some really old and rare varieties and you're not going to get a lot of bells and whistles here with glossy photos or packets or fancy ordering. But they do have an amazing catalogue of hard-to-find's.

Do you not like southern exposure their catalogue is so beautiful I could drool their actually so pretty I've kinda started collecting them lol. Have yoy had bad luck with them?

I've never gotten one, now I'm going to have to order. See what you did? They're monsanto free I assume?

They are sooooooo awesome! Yes order a catalogue you wont regret it! And yes they are part of a lawsuit against Monsanto. Their website blows compaired to the catalogue just a warning don't judge based on the website lol

You won't regret it they have so many awesome seeds and if I'm not mistaken if they have a low germination rate for a certain seed (lets say ground cherries) they will give you extra to make up for it. Which I like.