#1 Green Bay Touchdownception doesn't happen (even though I think it was a legit catch, it was very close)

#2 Cam Newton throws the TD to wide open TE in the endzone, instead of short arming it

#3 Russell Wilson is unable to get the comeback win in New England, Tom Brady drives down the field for the gamewinner and we aren't able to stop him, OR something as simple as the intentional grounding on Brady at the end of the 1st half isn't called and they kick a field goal.

#4 Russell Wilson is unable to make a game winning drive against Chi, or we lose the coin toss in OT.

We've gotten our fair share of breaks, and hopefully talent starts taking over and we don't need breaks to win.

8-5 is a freaking awesome record anyways. I know 11-2 is even awesomer, but 8-5 OMG!!!

#1 Green Bay Touchdownception doesn't happen (even though I think it was a legit catch, it was very close)

#2 Cam Newton throws the TD to wide open TE in the endzone, instead of short arming it

#3 Russell Wilson is unable to get the comeback win in New England, Tom Brady drives down the field for the gamewinner and we aren't able to stop him, OR something as simple as the intentional grounding on Brady at the end of the 1st half isn't called and they kick a field goal.

#4 Russell Wilson is unable to make a game winning drive against Chi, or we lose the coin toss in OT.

We've gotten our fair share of breaks, and hopefully talent starts taking over and we don't need breaks to win.

8-5 is a freaking awesome record anyways. I know 11-2 is even awesomer, but 8-5 OMG!!!

HawksFTW wrote:Nope, in this game things only go one direction.

cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.

I think there is a very good case to be made that Seattle should have a better record than they currently own.

First, they are undefeated in games that weren't close. 4-0.

Second, for a team that is 4-0 in non-close games, shouldn't they be better than 4-5 in close games?

Third, DVOA had Seattle down for 9.7 estimated wins BEFORE the Cardinals game. So by FO's numbers, Seattle deserved almost 3 wins more than they had. That number will likely skyrocket after a 58-0 blowout. Look for Seattle to be potentially #1 in weighted DVOA tomorrow.

I think about that, but I always come to the same conclusion: I am sooooo happy with our team presently that I wouldn't want things to change. That is, who knows if the players play inspired against Chi if we don't lose to Mia. Who knows if piling on a bunch of wins causes a lack of growth and a late season collapse. If all the wins turned out the same, hell yeah give me those close ones, but we can't be sure that would be the case.

Bottom line, if your happy with where you are right now, you have to be happy with the way you got here.

kearly wrote:I think there is a very good case to be made that Seattle should have a better record than they currently own.

First, they are undefeated in games that weren't close. 4-0.

Second, for a team that is 4-0 in non-close games, shouldn't they be better than 4-5 in close games?

Third, DVOA had Seattle down for 9.7 estimated wins BEFORE the Cardinals game. So by FO's numbers, Seattle deserved almost 3 wins more than they had. That number will likely skyrocket after a 58-0 blowout. Look for Seattle to be potentially #1 in weighted DVOA tomorrow.

Football Outsiders said that the Hawks will either be #1 or #2 in normal DVOA, maybe #1 weighted.

The good news is we are young. Many of our players have not had the luxury of reference while silly mistakes are made and consequently costing us Ws. Now they do. Or should. The penalties show they still require discipline and still have some growing to do. I believe they will and will get better. Good year this year, better year the next, etc etc.