This is making the decision process so much harder. I was considering getting the Limited with the diesel. I test drove it and liked it quite a bit, but I can get an Overland with the Pentastar v-6 for less. Cant make up my mind and I think it's going to drive me totally bonkers.

The VM3.0 and Pentastar v6 aren't comparable. The VM3.0 diesel performs more like the Hemi. The fact that the 8 speed for the diesel is the same one used in the Hemi is an indicator of the strength of the diesel motor. Its rated at twice the torque. The VM3.0 would damage the light duty Pentastar tranny with a few hard romps of the accelerator. If you want a lower torque, higher reving "economy" vehicle, the Pentastar is a great choice. Nothing wrong with it. If you want longer range, more towing capacity, Hemi drivability, and way better economy than the Hemi, the diesel is no brainer.

Comparing the diesel to the Pentastar is apples vs. oranges IMHO. BTW, I get 26.2 mpg per tank with mixed city and rural driving with my 4x4 ORA2 Limited CRD. Long trips yield 31.5 at 70mph on the interstate with moderate hills in middle TN. It has exceed EPA ratings in all aspects.

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They did state in the article MIXED. Not just highway driving like you.

I drive 90%+ city and that's about what I average (and I drive pretty aggressively). Keep in mind, that's with winter diesel blend which can zap mpg pretty significantly. I was given a '14 Overland V-6 for 2 days while my rock rails were being installed and I averaged just over 1/2 as good (12 mpg) doing my normal commute.

I have a hard time giving much credence to this review for a couple reasons:

1) He claims the identical powertrain in a Ram truck is better, yet the Ram is about 600lbs heavier than the JGC (umm hello?).

2) Literally, every other review of the diesel in the JGC says the opposite (see a few below). I think I've read every Ecodiesel review and the USA today review seems to be the only negative one.

This is making the decision process so much harder. I was considering getting the Limited with the diesel. I test drove it and liked it quite a bit, but I can get an Overland with the Pentastar v-6 for less. Cant make up my mind and I think it's going to drive me totally bonkers.

Get the V6 Gas. No brainer.

I can pretty much afford what ever I want under 100K. The V6 Gas, since the transmission was fixed, is really fun to drive. I never thought I'd really enjoy an SUV. It has the nicest purr.

Take out the Overland and stomp on it. Make sure it has latest firmware for transmission or was built after late December 2013. I think you'll be impressed.

You'll NEVER save money with the diesel. You'd have to average in the high 30's for it to pay back before you hit 100K miles.

You have to ADD $4500.00 + $0.50/gal + Urea $0.10/gal

Also add that fine small of diesel you get on your hands and the bottom of your feet when you fill up. Sometimes, not every time. Because it never evaporates. I've owned diesel and I own a diesel tractor. I hate getting diesel.

And based on comments in other threads it doesn't sound like its great for heavy towing either.

The article posted was dead on. Most of the other reviews sound like an advertisement.

Interesting they said it was noisier than competition too.

If you need to feel Macho, get the diesel.

Oh I use a spray paint mask every time I use my Brand new Kubota Tractor. I Feel sick if I use it all day and not wear mask. I really hate Diesel. Oh and ear protection too (more so for the Box Blade than the engine though, engine noise can wear on you too).

I have an oil furnace at one house. Brand new house. I hate that furnace too. I service it myself. What a god awful filthy fuel. Only worse fuel would be coal.

Nothing wrong with it. If you want longer range, more towing capacity, Hemi drivability, and way better economy than the Hemi, the diesel is no brainer.

Comparing the diesel to the Pentastar is apples vs. oranges IMHO. BTW, I get 26.2 mpg per tank with mixed city and rural driving with my 4x4 ORA2 Limited CRD. Long trips yield 31.5 at 70mph on the interstate with moderate hills in middle TN. It has exceed EPA ratings in all aspects.

I agree with you in almost every aspect except the fuel economy statement. I agree that the diesel not only exceeds the EPA rating but it is also more frugal than the gas. But the Pentastar ALSO exceeds the EPA ratings and the fuel economy penalty compared to diesel is not as much.

From Chicago to Denver to Trail Ridge Road to Yellowstone to South Dakota to Chicago at 70 to 75, 3 people in the car with luggage for 8 days. I think it did decently. It all depends on each individual's needs...but fuel economy should not be the deciding argument.

I agree with you in almost every aspect except the fuel economy statement. I agree that the diesel not only exceeds the EPA rating but it is also more frugal than the gas. But the Pentastar ALSO exceeds the EPA ratings and the fuel economy penalty compared to diesel is not as much.

From Chicago to Denver to Trail Ridge Road to Yellowstone to South Dakota to Chicago at 70 to 75, 3 people in the car with luggage for 8 days. I think it did decently. It all depends on each individual's needs...but fuel economy should not be the deciding argument.

+10 lol

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