I am a bit sad myself. Finally got my Shocks and Amps a day or two before the Shock changes were announced. Now that I've thrown them, they fly a bit to much like my Volts to be excited. I'd be happy with the "fixed" versions, but I think my wife would kill me if I spent more money on plastic in the next few months. >.<

OK I definitely got one of the original Shocks, there is a little of flash on the bottom. I was wondering why it was less overstable than what MVP said it was gonna produce. I just thought it was the gyro tech. Kinda cool as these things are gonna be collector items... maybe.

i think its pretty dumb of them to learn of and correct a mistake and continue to sell the the defect product. i have a shock that isnt a shock, and i cant even buy a good one yet? sweeet....

You obviously aren't that familiar with the industry. Every company does this. If a disc does not have cosmetic flaws, it's going to be sold. Latitude also has had to do quite a bit of tinkering with many of their molds to get their intended stabilities consistent, resulting in things like overstable Visions etc.

The reasoning behind MVP's current way of releasing discs may be financial, in part. How many test Shocks do you want to blow through before you get it right? They might make a few, test them, and if they are coming out close to what they require, they do a full run at those settings.

I don't know how other companies run their test discs but it has to get expensive to keep making discs you never intend to sell if they're not molding up right, even if you regrind the plastic or sell them as X-outs.

I love how people think the old shocks are diseased... lol They are still a nice disc and the new ones will be better but like discspeed said mold variations are extremely common in this industry and the main reason I have gotten away from an all Lat. 64 bag was due to their horrrrrrible variances in the past few years vs when they first came out. Havocs, Strikers, Vision, Core, Pain, and Pure alll were my go-to discs and between the different plastics now, stamps, and runs you never know wtf the disc will fly like-- where before they were almost identical.

The Shocks are not a night and day difference in this case but rather a fine-tuned version-- there will be manyyyyy people to buy the old shocks as the new runs will be too OS for the average players power level anyway to notice a HUGE difference. We are not talking a Sidewinder vs a Monster here' lol...

i like MVP discs (see above) but sometimes its clear that the company is run by 20 year olds

I understand your gripe, but this statement is pretty insulting to MVP honestly. Behind the 20 yr olds is their father who has like 50 years of experience in the molding business. Besides that, name a disc company who wouldn't sell their discs because they aren't as stable or understable as intended...