That’s not the stand your ground law. You have a reasonable fear (in the eyes of the jury, and preferably the cops and prosecutor as well) of your life and/or great bodily harm. All that the stand your ground law removes is the initial duty to retreat.

OK, I bothered to look. You seem to be a solid freeper, so I’ll spend a little time educating you about “stand your ground.” Short version: It simply means you don’t have a duty to retreat if you REASONABLY believe that you are in danger of serious bodily injury or death. Rather, you can stand your ground and defend yourself. It’s an affirmative defense, and if push comes to shove, you must prove the REASONABLENESS of your belief in the threat. Just like with plain old self-defense, you must REASONABLY believe that your are in danger before defending yourself.

I’d say Zimmerman getting his head bounced off the cement ground like a basketball means he was actually in the process of getting his azz kicked and he couldn’t have retreated if he wanted to, hence “stand your ground” doesn’t even come into it.

/THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. I’m not a lawyer, I’m just up to speed on 2A issues. The entire point of the LSM and race pimps bringing “stand your ground” into this is so they can attack our rights. See my tag...

43
posted on 03/31/2012 12:59:19 PM PDT
by piytar
(The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)

Long term residence in the Big Sh*tty, amongst all those crazed Libroids, can make one paranoid. After all, in the Big Sh*tty, they ARE out to get you. If Mugger doesn’t, some bureaucrap will attack your pocket.

However, imagine if NYC did not have the Sullivan Law, all citizens could be armed.

As Samuel Clements observed, a mining town in the gold rush period of the West had ONE QUARTER of the crime of a comparable size city back east. Clements attributed this to the fact that all citizens were armed.

46
posted on 03/31/2012 1:09:56 PM PDT
by GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)

OK thanks! Finally someone explains this. The MSM (or from the crap I read) makes it out to be some kind of a “shoot person” free card or something which seemed insane to me. They kept using and are still using that word “feel”...”If you feel your life is in danger”..Then of course they connect it to Repubs. and the NRA. “Oh they can shoot anyone they feel like shooting”.

48
posted on 03/31/2012 1:11:36 PM PDT
by GrandJediMasterYoda
(Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)

And when I walked in this girl was there who just went ape sh*t when she saw me and screamed and ran out. Much like the normal people did on that old `60s show The Munsters when they saw Herman Munster. You know, screamed and crashed through a door.

I'm sorry, but that imagery was funny as hell!

Have you seen the movie "Tucker and Dale vs. Evil"? The plot is very similar. A bunch of college kids in the woods keep accidently killing themselves trying to run away from these two hillbillies who appear scary but are just very nice guys. It's a hysterical movie.

LOL! No I didn’t see that flick, I’ll rent it though. Thanks for the tip.

Yes, there is no other way to describe it though, that is exactly how she reacted. She screamed and bashed the door open. And it happens to me all the time. Sometimes when I’m about to walk into that situation (if I know about it beforehand), I squat a bit, bend my knees so I don’t seem so tall so I don’t freak the person out so much.

Even at night when I walk to work around 2am (I live in New York city and do minimal driving) someone will suddenly appear in front of me walking and I literally walk in the street below the curb to appear smaller. It really is Herman Munster stuff and annoys the hell out of me.

It did get me out of a ticket once though when I rented a car to drive upstate. I bought McDonalds breakfast and after I finished I pulled over when I saw a garbage can on the corner of an intersection. So I got out, threw it into the trashcan, and when I turned around I saw this ticket agent about to write me a ticket so I ran over and said “WAIT” and wooow, she made the “O” with her mouth...

BTW, sorry for the harsh tone in my first reply. Your post (accidentally, I'm sure) somewhat mirrored a left-wing meme I've been seeing lately. Which is scary — it means the meme is subtly gaining some traction even with the educated.

Should have checked your “in forum” first. Sigh.

/grumpy today for a host of reasons...

57
posted on 03/31/2012 1:36:17 PM PDT
by piytar
(The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)

What is with the teeth? Did he have bad teeth? I notice some of his fronts are gold capped. Don’t get me wrong, it is his right to have gold teeth is he wants them, but is this some kind of status symbol in ganstaland? It costs a lot to get a tooth capped, and his are symmetrical, so I think it is a vanity. Are there dentists who will cap teeth with gold just for cosmetic reasons? If so, seems like a wast of resources as well as a poor health choice to do that. Is this ethical on the dentists part?

Again, the issue should be “why do young black men present themselves to the public wearing the apparel of thugs”?

58
posted on 03/31/2012 1:37:14 PM PDT
by The_Media_never_lie
(A free country and a lying media are incompatible.)

I'm 6 feet 230 pounds. If you walked up on me at 2:00 am I'd probably run, too. But I wouldn't shoot you absence of any actual threat. Anybody who did would be guilty of murder.

Having said that, this case has nothing to do with stand your ground. This situation is strictly self defense. In my opinion two different issues. Stand you ground means you do not have to run from a threat. Self defense is stopping someone from beating your head on a sidewalk.

Martin had a choice in handling the situation; he could have simply said what I'm doing here is none of your business and walked away. Someone asking you a question, no matter how offensive, does not give you the right to beat the crap out them. Trayvon chose poorly.

Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.