It also looks that Peter kept that beard, though it’s hard to be sure from that pic alone.jentario,
That small boat looks a lot like a smaller version of the boat in the parking lot they’ve been using, so yeah I’m pretty sure it’s part of the production.

I really want to know if Dinklage still has that beard or if he shaved. I really want to see Tyrion with that beard; it’d fit his current state of mind and overall situation. But dammit, those pictures don’t show it!

Aegon seems the kind of thing the show would skip, especially now that we know their wish for a 7 season series. It might not just be about that, though: if Aegon is out, nobody will steal Daenerys’ thunder as the sole Targaryen Conqueror. Of course I might be wrong, but at this point I would be surprised to see them. Some people have suggested that the Griffs could be introduced in season 6, but isn’t that utterly ridiculous? From the show’s point of view, Season 5 is already a bit too late to introduce such a game-changing figure (although it already may have been a stretch in the books, the clues were there, since it’s a more richly defined world), so delaying it for no reason until the second-to-last season is unthinkable to me.

I’d have thought the Greyjoys would be easier to introduce organically, very much like Dorne. But the lack of any mention of the Greyjoy uncles in the last 3 seasons tells me they are out too. Hopefully it means more screentime for Yara/Asha, who has been on-screen for about 5 or 10 minutes in the last 2 seasons.

Tyrion and Jorah filming together does not mean we won’t see the Griffs, though it appears less and less likely that we will, which is a shame. I’ve said for a while that I would rather see Connington and fAegon on the show than the Greyjoys. Not that I wouldn’t like to see Euron on the show, I would, but fAegon is Varys’ masterstroke. Varys, and his motivations, has been one of the series’ biggest mysteries from book 1/season 1. To lose fAegon is to alter that. I assume they will just have him be a Dany supporter and remove the Blackfyres from the show altogether. Likewise, I also assume Dorne will support Dany too. Unless D&D are going off of knowledge from future books, and Doran decides to support Myrcella as Queen and put Trystanne on the throne after he finds out about Quentyn and Arianne pieces together that “Aegon” is a fake.

I think Euron and the Greyjoy plot is more likely to be introduced in season 6 than the Griffs would be.

Keisha Castle-Hughes just tweeted that she is in Split, so it looks like they are doing some Dorne scenes there. I’m guessing it will probably be at Vila Dalmacija, since people assumed it would be for Dorne or Pentos.

laid in the books – and on the show – for FAegon, most notably Varys nodding his head in the direction of the Iron Throne in conversation with Oberyn Martell. I would think most savvy viewers by now realize Varys does not desire the throne for himself. And the ongoing, frequent discussion of the killing of Elia’s children conforms to this as well. It makes logical sense. Also, if they’re going to include him, he’s very much of a similar thing with Ramsay – it’s the kind of thing you don’t want to release to the masses beforehand (which is why Iwan Rheon was listed as “boy” in the early cast lists…). To me, if FAegon doesn’t show up at all, that’s when we know. Until then, I can’t discount him being out.

I still think the lame retcon from GRRM is Connington, who pops up, Frank Pentangeli or Don Altobello style, with a whole “Hey, this guy was around in the old days, y’know?” kind of deal. Yeah, I get it, he needs a benefactor other than the untrustworthy Illyrio, but it still feels like padding to me.

And I still want Victarion, even in Season 6, with a couple of big goddamned axes in his hand. I may not get that, though. But they can be delayed.

So happy to get a confirmation that we’d be getting some Tyrion/Jorah scenes! I know it was pretty much a given but at the rate things are getting cut and tossed around, I’m not sure of anything anymore. And glad to see Dink does seem to be sporting the beard in those pics 🙂

I think that they can still introduce Euron in S6. Loras can head back to The Reach rather than Dragonstone at the end of S5 to defend against Euron. Vic isn’t necessary because Dany already has 93 ships, thanks to Daario’s awesome-ness.

As far as the Griffs

I’m going to be stubborn on this one and refuse to accept that they have been eliminated until it is obvious that plot points have passed them by. While I’m not a fan of the way Aegon was introduced in the books, the alternative – Varys, et al supporting Dany from the start – is not a great choice, IMO. I’m well aware that I may be disappointed.

Not gonna lie. This worries me immensely. For me the Greyjoys and Griffs were very enjoyable parts of the last couple of books (way more than the dull Dornish stuff). It’s still early days I guess but my worries about this next season are starting to to be fulfilled. I know someone will chime in with the usual “stop being a book-purist” or “they need to get it all done in seven seasons”. I’ve a massive amount of respect for how well it’s been adapted so far but when you start to move too far away from the source material then shows get worse. I’ll keep the faith and hope that there’s a scene at Pentos or something involving them before Jorah drags Tyrion toward Dany ( still not sure how he’s made it as far as that already!)

JonCon was mentioned in ACOK as one of the former Hands of the King who lost their job and lands and went into exile. It’s not like the books could have introduced him while he was in Essos when the only POV there was Dany, unless he met her, which would have been weird and wouldn’t have worked at all.

I won’t chime in with those things, but I will say, per usual: We have too little information to conclude that either of those 2 groups have been definitively cut. I still think the most logical sense is not to let the cat out of the bag on one, and delay the other until Season 6.

They don’t film the scenes and episodes in sequence. For instance, Pedro filmed the dungeon scene with Tyrion that appeared in episode 7 on his first day of filming. There were scenes from the finale that were filmed in the first days of filming, according to Alex Graves.

So while it’s not looking good for the Griffs, don’t lose all hope just yet. And I still think Euron will appear at some point in the series, possibly season 6. Balon is going to die(leaches!) and Yara’s failed rescue of Theon will come into play at some point, and have consequences for her(Cogman’s words). I say Victarion is cut, and Euron will make it.

Awesome stuff. Everything’s coming together. I should’ve guessed they’d be doing water stuff today when I looked up the region mentioned in the tweets and saw the shore there. Went over my head I’m afraid.

It’s not really ruining anything if the source material turns to shit,aka AFFC and ADWD,it’s why i laugh when people say True Blood was ruined because they were not following the books anymore even though the books were turning into shit themselves . True Blood was ruined because of itself not based on anything really,just poor writing and showrunners who stopped giving a fuck a long time ago which is not the case with D&D obviously .

Not everybody agrees that AFFC and ADWD were “shit”. I certainly don’t. Any changes in the show will likely come down to budget and time. The budget used to sign actors is pretty much fully tapped(according to GRRM) and the CGI will continue to become more expensive/difficult. There also simply isn’t enough screen time to introduce 3 new storylines(Iron Islands,Dorne,the Griffs and the Golden Company). I had assumed 2 of the 3 would be in season 5, but that may not be the case. Either way, I do expect the Greyjoy/Iron Island stuff to happen in season 6, just not the way it happened in the books.

I won’t chime in with those things, but I will say, per usual: We have too little information to conclude that either of those 2 groups have been definitively cut. I still think the most logical sense is not to let the cat out of the bag on one, and delay the other until Season 6.

This. I have to remind myself too often. Although, I will say that I don’t think the

Greyjoy uncles will be delayed a season, if of course they make an appearance. Most of S6 will need to be devoted to tWoW material that D&D have, which is shaping up to be quite a lot-adapting the two battles in the beginning will be a feat. The iron islands get a couple important mentions in S4 as well (notably during Tywinn’s conversation with Oberyn) that I could see as foreshadowing Balon’s death & the kingsmoot, along with Yara’s return

Season 4 had a lot of little hints that implied that Aegon’s role will be filled (whether by him or by a different character):
-not one, but two Golden Company mentions. The Iron Bank had one in season 3. This can’t be for nothing.
-Elia Sand is the only Sand Snake mentioned in a pretty long piece of conversation between Oberyn and Cersei, and she is supposedly the most problematic Snake of the lot. This implies that she will appear in some point in the show and that she will fill a similar role to her book counterpart (otherwise they would have cut Tyene and aged up Elia to take that role). It’s possible they’ll be using Elia for something else, but what’s the point? What she does in the book is escort the Dornish party that is sent to treat with Aegon, and she will probably end up making a mess there.
-Varys being very convincing to Cersei that Dany is indeed a problem and that they should do something to sabotage her cause (which ended up being the Jorah letter thing). Just like in season 1 (where he spoke up for assassinating Dany and the baby and outright issued the assassination, which would have gone through if not for Jorah) and season 2 (where Varys warns Tyrion of Dany and the dragons), Varys is showing no signs of Dany support- he’s trying to convince the council to act against her.
-Varys leaving with Tyrion. Clearly, they want to keep him on screen longer rather than having him disappear. He went all the way to Essos, so he won’t just turn back home, not do I think that him joining Tyrion and Jorah’s adventures is even remotely likely (given the whole becoming a slave thing). So first of all, this makes me think that Illyrio has to be in season 5. I also think there’s a solid chance that Varys will be joining the hypothetical Aegon crew, which get separated from Tyrion after Jorah abducts him.
-the inclusion of Dorne. It’s looking pretty clear that Aegon and Dorne’s fates will be tied as of TWOW. Dorne and the Golden Company will most likely be the bulk of his fighting force, and Arianne could be his wife. If that is Dorne’s endgame, one would think that the show including Dorne would imply they are keeping Aegon as well.

The only thing missing was an outright mention of Aegon by name, and I think it’s likely that D&D just didn’t have the screentime to deliver that in Oberyn’s explanation to Tyrion in 401. And even if Aegon himself is cut, I think there’s a chance he’ll be replaced by another character (maybe even Gendry, who in show canon knows he is king and who was last seen heading towards King’s Landing where Varys could conveniently grab him).

So IMO unless they changed their mind while mapping season 5, Aegon’s role will exist in the show. But it IS looking more and more likely that this isn’t the case, so maybe they did change their minds and decide to work around the Aegon thing.

There are still some good things in those book which fans want the show to keep, such as the Griffs and the Greyjoys (and Arianne who is definitely cut). You might not like them yourself, but a lot of people do.

True Blood had seven seasons, total. It was based on a book series that had thirteen books, total.

The first three seasons of True Blood are based on the first three Southern Vampire books. And–surprise surprise–the first three seasons were really great.

I think the book series went off the rails EVENTUALLY. People would argue about when, but I gave up around book 10. So the show had all kinds of great material (certainly 4 seasons worth) but they decided to go their own way instead & before long people were hate-watching True Blood rather than enjoying it.

And let’s remember that Alan Ball had been (and hopefully will be again) someone whose name, when attached to a project, seemed to guarantee quality. That didn’t stop the show he started from going off the rails.

I understand that AFFC & ADWD need to be streamlined, but there were moments in season 4 that really made me lose my faith in D&D. Shae, for example–I loved show!Shae, I loved show!Shae’s relationship with Tyrion. I was willing to follow the show in a different direction. But trying to graft a storyline original to the show onto the ending that GRRM gave the very different storyline he wrote really didn’t work for me. It did not make sense, and it lost a lot of its emotional impact for me. I would have preferred they found a different way to end it.

So now they’re in a position where they’re going to have to do a lot of cut & pasting, and I’m wary of it. Whatever flaws the books have, I’d be less worried if they felt more compelled to be faithful.

The wine merchant that was used was incredibly incompetent and unprepared. If Varys really wanted Dany dead, he would have made it happen (Faceless Man or anyone more capable than the merchant). As for what he’s said in Council is correct, she is a legitimate threat. If Varys is supportive of Dany, he still has to maintain appearances in front of the Lannisters, particularly Cersei. As we know from the Prologue of ADWD(?) Varys tells Kevan (while killing him) that he wants to sow chaos in Westeros and helping to ramp up Cersei’s fear AND motivate Dany all that much more to return, he is doing exactly that. Finally, I’ve said all this in greater detail in the Forums but I basically think there is nothing that says Varys isn’t supporting both Aegon and Dany (not putting all his eggs in one basket is the smart thing to do). If they both succeed they could marry and rule together. If not, one will most likely survive and he/she will achieve the same thing for Varys-stability. And as for him killing Pycelle and Kevan, I don’t think who does it is what matters. What matters is that something happens to make Cersei even more paranoid and suspicious of the Tyrells and to destabilize the Lannister’s control over Westeros. In the end if Aegon is not on the show, I don’t think it messes up Varys’ arc at all so long as (and this is the BIG caveat) D&D find a good way to show us how Varys had supported Dany all along. I think Varys discussions with Tyrion while sailing and what Varys does once they arrive in Pentos (or wherever they end up) might reveal which direction they intend to go so we won’t have to wait until S6.

In the books, I don’t know how it will come out….Varys could have exclusively supported Aegon and that will fail (I’m betting it will) and Dany will triumph (to whatever degree GRRM plans to let her triumph) without Varys’ support.

I agree completely with your spoilery comments about Young Griff. But as for Yara, though some think she may replace the Iron Born characters likely to be cut, I kind of think she will actually do exactly what she (Asha) did in Dance, and not what those other characters did.

I remember the producers said that in season 5 we will know what Varys shemes were about… but without fAgon what is the interest of Varys shemes ??

My guess is

fAgon and Jon Con are cut, and Varys will reveal himself as a BlackFyre that has been working to restore the BlackFyre House in Westeros, with the help of Illirio… He will convince the Golden Cie, presently with Stannis at the Wall, to break a contract for the first time (in the book they break their contract with Myr) and go to Meereen to join Danarys. (Stannis will be pissed off at Davos who suggested him in season 4 to hire this cie of sellswords…)

After having convince

Tyrion in Pentos of not going to Dorne and play revenge scheme against Cercei but instead meet up with Jorah Mormont at a certain location and go to Daenarys, i think Varys will go to Bravoos to meet the Golden cie and will end up being killed by Arya…

That’s my theory about how D and D could shrink the book story in season 5

** sorry for my mistakes in english, no offence—) french is my langage…

That’s why I’ve not given up hope but the longer it goes with no word from either of those two groups of characters the the more that hope dies!

I really enjoyed Feast and Dance. I’d agree the first three books were better but that doesn’t make those two bad. They were builder books and introduced new characters and areas so were never going to be as impactful as the others…especially after Storm of Swords which finsihed off a lot of character’s arcs.
Either way, when D&D have strayed too far away from the books is where they have got a little iffy. Some of it has worked (Locke replacing Vargo, Robb’s wife being killed off with him, more Bronn and Osha, some of Dany’s storyline streamlined), some of it hasn’t ( aging up Missandei, Missandei/Grey Worm romance, fireballs, the Tywin/Tyrion final scene, Ros) and some of it is debatable ( a lot of people hated the Yara/Ramsay stuff but I enjoyed it and conversly most people enjoyed the Hound/Brienne clash which I though was a bit poo). But all of these are relatively small changes. Slashing seemingly important characters and including non-events like pretty much everyone in Dorne is a poor idea IMO.
I do hope they have just been pushed back if they’re not in this season. I’m taking heart in the fact I thought the Reeds were gone but then appeared but the delay for the Iron Islands has been very long which I think is why folks are a litte worried.

Vary a brings the Dany problem up a bunch of times. He’s not maintaining an appearance, he’s actively pitting King’s Landing folks against her. And that part about the wine merchant being incompetent is a stretch- if Jorah hadn’t decided to turn his cloak over to Dany she would have died there with her baby and that would have been it. Also, IIRC, Varys didn’t send the wine merchant, he put out a bounty on Dany (something like the one who kills her gets a lordship). That was probably just in the books, though.

If Aegon is cut and Varys ends up supporting Dany, it’ll be him just going with the flow, it won’t be a plan he cooked long ago. The horse he bet on (Tywin) is dead and Dany is the second best bet. It’s still possible, but it makes Varys less smart and planning than the book version. More of an adapting player than a playing player.

And for the record, I doubt that there’s any chance we’ll see the Greyjoys and the Griffs at all if they are cut from season 5. Maybe Euron, but it’d be an even more contrived introduction than the Reeds.

I’m not sure about Varys, in the ASOIF wiki app (a project in which George personally worked) specifically states that Jorah was warned by Illyrio of the assesination attempt and that Illyrio was informed about it by Varys .

I just found the exact information we can read in the wiki app in case you are interested:

Varys
When Varys provides news to the king of Daenerys Targaryen’s marriage, he seems to side with the majority of the small council in arranging for her assassination. But later, he secretly informs Illyrio of the king’s decision, and Illyrio in turn passes the information to Ser Jorah in time to save Daenerys from the first attempt on her life.
———————————————————Jorah
However, in return for the promise that his exile might be commuted, he also agrees to send messages to Varys, reporting on Danerys’s actions. Varys then passed the news along to Robert and the small council. A message from Illyrio, who is colluding with Varys, will later lead to Jorah’s saving Danenerys from a would-be assassin who attempts to poison her in the Western Market of Vaes Dothrak.

The silence on casting the Griffs has me extremely concerned for the story going forward. Although I hate it, I knew there was almost no chance of them including Quentyn and co, and that there roles would just be lifted out. Again, although I’m not a fan of it I can see them just having Balon take the roles of the Greyjoy uncles. Even though I didn’t care for them in the books, having the Sand-Snakes carry out the Dornish storyline instead of Arianne could work. And although I would have loved to see Wyman Manderly, the number of characters in the Northern storyline did have to come down. However, I do not see how they can possibly go on with the story without the Griffs. They seem like they will be absolutely crucial to the plot of the books going forward, and there is no obvious way to have existing characters fill their roles. At this point I would kind of prefer that they just deviate from the books entirely and do their own story, instead of trying to compress and rush the story of the books.

I hadn’t seen the wiki, so I didn’t know the message came through Illyrio, but I always thought it possible Varys was saying what he needed to to make it appear he was vehemently against Dany, while in reality not being against her, at all.

I figured it could have been something as simple as having one of his little birds communicate to Jorah, “when you receive the pardon, look for the Westerosi. He will be the assassin,” or something like that

TheTouchOfFrost

I know some don’t like the aging up of Missandei, but I’m not one of them. Not only do I think it would have been quite strange to see Dany paired up with a child (what works in a book doesn’t always translate well to screen), I enjoy Dany having someone else with which to interact on an adult level.

Possibly dumb question as this is my first season following things as they are shot (I finished the books at the end of 2013 and avoided sites like this till then):

Would places with climates like Pentos and Volantis be shot in Northern Ireland? Or does this suggest that Tyrion’s landing in Essos will be further north than it was in the books? I know a NI beach served recently as a Dornish beach, but this location has a lot more vegetation that doesn’t look too southerly, to me anyway. Or maybe today they had boat shots only, and well, water is water anywhere?

James Rivers:
Possibly dumb question as this is my first season following things as they are shot (I finished the books at the end of 2013 and avoided sites like this till then):

We don’t know where they are going to have

Tyrion and Jorah

meet. They could meet where they do in the books, or they could move it to Pentos, which is they at least more northerly than the city where they meet in the books. If you look at pictures of the exterior of Illyrio’s from season 1, the foliage doesn’t look, at least to me, like it’s definitely a southern clime. Also, if they were just shooting boat shot, yes, I think water is pretty much water.

No,the show has gone to shit after season 2,but that show and books series weren’t on par with the quality of GOT or ASOIAF anyway, the fact is the show is still loved by the majority of fans and critics the only ones who constantly complain and they will never end complaining about it because they still can’t get it through their thick fucking heads that the show and books aren’t the same,so why would D&D listen to this people ? Answer,they won’t !

That’s strange, I just wrote out a post in response to James Rivers and Laurence, hit “post,” and nothing appeared. 🙁

Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I agree. I am a fan of the aging of Missandei, and like that they are using the Grey Worm romance to make us feel for the Unsullied.

I like the addition of that romance, too. It gives the viewer an opportunity to see the Unsullied as more than just, in essence, robots. It makes them seem human. Moreover, it allows the show to spend time in Meereen with something more than Dany in the throne room. It does, however, make me nervous for either Missandei or Grey Worm. I don’t think there’s any way the viewer would be set up to care about them, if one of them wasn’t going to die. Alas.

You can tell someone is a book fanboy when they keep mentioning the show’s shortcoming but fail to mention the many vomit inducing almost to the point of being insulting aspects of the two latest books,it’s fine if you like them but don’t pretend that you have some deep understanding of them that makes you realise how great they are and the rest of us that hate them are just a bunch of idiots that can’t understand it . Worldbuilding is one thing,but writing two books that you can tell were supposed to be just one not to mention all the cheap cliffhangers and unresolved plotlines and most of all FILLER an ungodly amount of filler just because Martin stopped knowing how to properly structure a book ,is fucking stupid to me .

Again, Ser Tahu — this isn’t the kind of casting that would be revealed. It would reveal too much. And we don’t know yet whether it’s happened or not. Dinklage has just started filming.

We’ve heard nothing about casting of previously announced parts like Septa Unella, Maggie the Frog, the Waif or others. It doesn’t make logical sense to announce something like this. D&D very smartly didn’t make any noise about Iwan Rheon; they kept Liam Cunningham entirely out of the marketing for Season 3 so his appearance in Valar Dohaeris would be a surprise that he lived. And for as much as everyone thinks they hear everything about what’s going to happen, the appearances of Patrick Malahide, Gemma Whelan and Peter Vaughan in the Season 3 closer and Ben Hawkey in Mockingbird were completely out of the blue. So we don’t and can’t know everything. Let’s all try to avoid getting into “really worried” mode on a lot of things. We can’t be sure Wyman Manderley is out particularly when you could logically make him a one-episode character (really). We can’t be sure the Greyjoys won’t show up until next year. Arianne? Yes, she’s gone. And people on this board (and its predecessor) have speculated that Quentyn was a goner for years and years. So really – a bit of patience, for one, and remember also that the books are not the show.

A lot of casting news hasn’t come out yet. Even for parts that we know they will cast (from the casting calls). I’d say it’s too soon to say that some of the bigger parts are cut. If some of them ARE cut then it’s plausible too that they’ve been delayed till s6.

Some roles may still be announced via James Hibberd and some we’ll find out through set pics, leaks and most helpfully, actors’ CVs.

Maybe. Maybe not. If the Griffs are out, maybe we won’t see Illyrio again. Jorah could just meet Varys (his former employer!) and Tyrion and they travel to Meereen by ship, but get captured by slavers on the way (Yezzan has been cast). No boat trip. No Volantis. No kidnapping by Jorah. No Penny. And probably no Moqorro.

Ashara D:
First, no Arianne, now no Septa Lemore?? What’s a Dayne to do?
Despite no Lemore, I’m not giving up hope for Griff.Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I agree. I am a fan of the aging of Missandei, and like that they are using the Grey Worm romance to make us feel for the Unsullied.

Who said no Septa Lemore? and is that confirmed? There was a rumor going around that the casting of Lemore was discussed earlier this spring with a certain star for a cameo appearance, but no resolution has been reached. In fact, this is one of the few reasons I am reluctant to declare that there will no Aegon this season.

we haven’t even heard if Illyrio is returning for Season 5 yet, so I don’t know what all the fuss is about concerning Tyrion’s plotline. we literally know NOTHING about who he is filming with except the three obvious ones: Varys, Jorah and the recently announced Yezzan. It also makes sense that they would get his scenes with Jorah & Yezzan filmed first, as these ones are public knowledge and it reduces possibility of early spoilers about the Aegon plotline.

I think they will definitely have Varys & Illyrio at Pentos to start off his plotline in S5, who will reveal their motivations before sending him off to meet up with Aegon. They may well cut JonCon to avoid too many new faces and instead have Varys accompany Tyrion down the Rhoyne before he is kidnapped by Ser Jorah. I do, however, think they will cast Septa Lemore – as Aegon does need some kind of crew, and she is by far the most intriguing character other than JonCon on the voyage.

If the travel on the Rhoyne is in, where could it be filmed? Certainly not in Croatia or N. Ireland, the rivers there are too small. Maybe the Ebro or another river in Spain? So when they start filming in Spain and we get no informations about scenes on a riverboat, we can be sure that the storyline is cut.

Bard:
If the travel on the Rhoyne is in, where could it be filmed? Certainly not in Croatia or N. Ireland, the rivers there are too small.

Actually, Croatian locations have lots of River-like potential.
Here are GPS coordinates of the portal set in Duilovo: 43.501594, 16.493429
Find it out on Google Maps and zoom out a bit, or even better, drop in street view mode. You will notice that place basically looks like one big huge river (when the sea is calm enough). Even the vegetation is marsh like, unlike typical Croatian seashore.

I’m still certain that Duilovo location is more about the sea than the portal. That prop could’ve been set anywhere if it weren’t for the shore.
It’s either a Dornish port or something on Rhoyne.

Also, Sibenik IS situated on river estuary…
Here are coords for St.Nicholas fort: 43.721689, 15.854518

Again, zoom out and follow the Krka river. They virtually have all possible set locations for Rhoyne there. From calm marshes to streams and waterfalls if needed.

I’m going to be frank with you. There’s no reason to believe all your statements. I know you can’t give us evidence if you’re the real deal because it would likely screw someone over, but as far as we know you could just be guessing.

I have a feeling Varys will meet his demise in season 5, just because his character seems to have served his purpose. He helped Tyrion escape Kings Landing, so what use will he be now that he’s far away from KL and the seat of power. Tyrion and Jorah will be the focus of that storyline as they journey to Dany and Meereen. I just hope Dany and Tyrion meet by the end of the season

I’m going to be frank with you. There’s no reason to believe all your statements. I know you can’t give us evidence if you’re the real deal because it would likely screw someone over, but as far as we know you could just be guessing.

I would love to believe you, honestly.

That’s fine jentario. Just bear in mind that so far I all my reports proved highly accurate in the end, even when there were initial reports that contradicted the info I provided. Anyway, I will stop posting then, though I thought this was a site where we can share whatever info we have.

Patchface: Who said no Septa Lemore? and is that confirmed? There was a rumor going around that the casting of Lemore was discussed earlier this spring with a certain star for a cameo appearance, but no resolution has been reached. In fact, this is one of the few reasons I am reluctant to declare that there will no Aegon this season.

@ SuetheFury & AsharaD
Just wanted to clarify that the stuff about Lemore is a RUMOR, nothing more. Essentially, my source heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone and so on… I do not know the identity of the “star” involved, it sounded like an “A” list celebrity, but I really do not wish to speculate about it.
In my posts, I try to make a clear distinction among 1. information that is confirmed, 2. info that is unconfirmed but very credible, 3. rumors and 4. my personal opinion and speculation about stuff.
The Lemore stuff is just a rumor, very unreliable and this is why I have not reported it earlier. The only reason I mentioned it now was because someone on this board said Lemore is cut and I wanted to see whether that was a legit scoop or just speculation. In fact, my source (who has not read the books BTW) did not even say “Lemore”, but “Lemon”! On a related issue, I also asked that source about Griff, but (s)he has never heard of the name before, which means absolutely nothing.

@ AsharaD
My source also described “Lemon” as some “noble” lady, which may give some support to your “pet theory” (which is widely speculated by other fans as well), however, I would not put too much weight on this since my source is unsullied and (s)he may associate a septa/priestess with nobility (as oppose to common folk) or indeed Lemore may be highborn.

Ser Tahu:
The silence on casting the Griffs has me extremely concerned for the story going forward. …… They seem like they will be absolutely crucial to the plot of the books going forward, and there is no obvious way to have existing characters fill their roles. At this point I would kind of prefer that they just deviate from the books entirely and do their own story, instead of trying to compress and rush the story of the books.

What really concerns me about the possibility of “no Griff” is that it would completely ignore all clues about another Targaryen/Blackfyre “Dance of the Dragons” that have been building. Much of the 5th ASoI&F book (ADwD) was about setting up another classic (metaphorical if not real) dragon conflict in Westeros history. Even the recent GRRM “short stories” and arguably Dunk & Egg have been directly or indirectly about “dragon dances“. I believe GRRM is implying something very significant with this storyline, and the Starks will be the difference during the next round of “dragon dances.”

Everything regarding “dragon dancing” (including the roles of Varys and Dorne) in S5 will be very interesting indeed.

Lemore doesn’t seem to be the sort of role that a “star” would be drawn to. I wonder who Patchface means…

This is just my opinion, but I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think a “star” would be willing play a smaller role on the show. No, they wouldn’t “need” the work, nor need the credit on their resume to further their career, but if they’re huge fans, they may do it just to be involved. I remember hearing that one of the guys from Coldplay, which is a pretty damned popular band, was an extra in the Red Wedding (one of the musicians up in the balcony), just because he wanted to be a part of the show, in some way. Sure, there’s a difference between a successful musician and a “star” actor, but still, if he’s passionate enough about the show to be an extra up in the balcony, it stands to reason the possibility exists a popular actor would be willing, and maybe even excited, to play just a smaller role. Again, this is just my opinion.