Here is something disturbing related to our soldiers committing suicide in all branches of the service

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In 2009, 6000 vets committed suicide. Why? Because they were so ashamed of themselves that they felt compelled to execute themselves. Think how many more vets are crippled with guilt who want to commit suicide but can’t quite bring themselves to do it. Do you want to risk marrying someone who deserts you by killing himself?

Do you want to be married to a man who has committed deeds so terrible he feels suicide is the only way to atone for them? Do you want to be tied to someone who is so suicidally depressed that no treatment or medication helps? Do you want a man in your bed, or near your kids, who has committed deeds so unspeakably awful he is too ashamed to tell anyone what they were.

Ouch...this surely is a debatable article...

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This psycho signed a contract when he enlisted agreeing to kill any child for no reason other than he was ordered to. It would be like asking Michael Vick to take care of your puppy while you were on vacation.

Now 18 vets a day commit suicide — considerably more than are killed in combat. If that many actually kill themselves, that means there are hundreds of times that number utterly miserable, just dragging through life wishing they could kill themselves. Consider the effect of his protracted depression, then suicide on you and your children. Even if he does not go all the way to suicide, you will be the breadwinner for the entire family, plus all the duties of wife and mother. He will just drag you down into the pit of despair with him if you don’t divorce him.

This is the stuff in the minds of some Americans regarding our troops.

In the past decade, the US Army lost more soldiers to suicide than to enemy fire in Afghanistan.

~ Rachel Maddow

And Rachel again

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Since the soldiers know better than anyone exactly what is going on in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they are killing themselves in record numbers, presumably what the soldiers are doing is quite a bit more shameful than the administration lets on.

When soldiers return from Afghanistan they often either attempt suicide or complete it. Everyone knows that combat often leads to PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder), brain damage and suicide. Suicide is more common than death in combat. So the most important question is, why did these people enlist to go to Afghanistan in the first place?

They were not conscripted. Of all possible things to do with their lives they voluntarily signed on as soldiers, agreeing to kill whomever they were ordered to.

It was not to protect Canada. Canada attacked Afghanistan, not the reverse. Afghanistan was so impoverished, that an attack on Canada would have been impossible.

It was not for the money. Military families often have to seek welfare. It was not to help the people of Afghanistan. Canadians refuse to donate even pennies to help people in the third world.

It was not for the travel to exotic places. Afghanistan are hell holes. What does that leave? They enjoy soldiering, namely bullying, killing, torturing and sometimes raping and pillaging. When they get back they become terminally guilty and kill themselves. It a natural consequence. They deserve the same mourning as other multiple killers.

Your loved one will be off for months and years at a time. He may be back only days before being shipped out again. This can be a pretty lonely life. If you have children, you will be largely raising them by yourself. Without a full time father, they are more likely to have behavioural problems.

Your husband will probably be away when your children are born, leaving you to endure labour alone, and missing those crucial first hours of bonding. Ask any child of a military man. They make distant, aloof fathers. They don’t bond properly.

The military whips recruits into good physical shape. It is hard not to be swept away by that trim athletic body. That is about the only plus, and even that won’t last forever. If you do decide to marry a soldier, that is probably the real reason. Hormones are taking over your brain. You are picking a good mate as if you lived in a cave and needed a muscular brute to protect you from wild animals. Think of the misery you know others have found marrying a handsome bastard.

If your husband participates is an aggressive war (illegal first strike war) such as Afghanistan or Iraq, he is guilty of a capital war crime, even if he just peeled potatoes. The USA currently does not recognise the authority of the world court and acts to protect its vets from prosecution. However, the USA will not always be the world’s only superpower and won’t be able to thumb its nose at the world court forever. In the meantime, other countries are treaty bound to prosecute your husband if he steps on their soil.

Most don’t do it, because they fear the American reprisal, but that will not necessarily always be true. There is no statute of limitations on war crimes. Prosecuted or not, you are still married to a war criminal, guilty of the same crime as the Nazis hanged at the end of WW II.

Unless he reaches high rank, he will never be able to provide for you and your family properly. Many soldiers’ wives live worse than those on welfare. You will be transferred over and over. You have to pull up roots on a moments notice and move off somewhere else. You have no say in the matter. If you have children, they will become army brats, children who never learn to socialise with other children since they are never in one place long enough to make lasting friends, children who do poorly in school because of the repeated disruptions.

You can’t have a career of your own because you are forced over and over to quit without notice. All this moving means you can’t put down roots anywhere or make lasting friends. You are nothing more than the wife of your husband, a decorative adjunct without value in your own right.

You won’t even have the support of your family since they may be continent’s away. If you have children, your mother and father will hardly ever get to hang out with their grandchildren; that is quite selfish. You may be forced to transfer your young family to some third world country, ripe with parasites, tropical diseases, poisonous insects and snakes. Even if you don’t transfer, your husband will bring back these parasites, tropical diseases and funguses back to infect you and your children.

You will constantly dread that phone call or knock on the door to let you know your husband has been seriously injured or killed. There will be a knock on the door. There will be a man in crew cut standing there who says, I am sorry for your loss in a rather wooden, bored way.

You will have to start your life all over from scratch. Or it could be your husband himself in a wheelchair, looking many pounds overweight, speaking in a halting, brain-damaged, distracted voice, like someone with Alzheimers, with an ostomy bag strapped to his stomach. Loss of genitals is a common injury. For the rest of his life, you are obligated to be his nurse rather than his wife. All he will be capable of doing is eating, drinking beer and watching TV.

Your husband can be killed at any time. It is a sword of Damocles over your head for his entire career. He will leave you to care for your family as a single parent.

It is common for soldiers to suffer from PTSD. He may panic at any loud sound. He may wake up in the night screaming. He may attack you imagining you are an enemy soldier. He may become paranoid. Make sure you learn what PTSD is before you presume love will automatically give you the resources to deal with it.

Women have anonymously complained that the military trains their men to hide emotions. They become emotional clams unwilling to face any emotional or relationship problem. This drives women crazy. Men in general have this tendency to some extent anyway.

If you discovered your fiancé had murdered his previous two wives, you might have second thoughts, ditto if you had discovered he had murdered a dozen strangers of random ages and genders just because he was paid to. You are considering marrying a man who is under unbreakable contract to the government to kill strangers and who may have already done it.

If he later gets a crisis of conscience and refuses to kill one of his assigned targets, he can he shot on the spot. What kind of person signs such a contract? Not even Mafioso enslave themselves to that extent.

The military has a culture demeaning to women. Women soldiers universally complain of sexual harassment and rape. Male soldiers refer even to their girlfriends as pussy. Getting drunk and screwing whores is the traditional military bonding ritual. The military culture teaches soldiers to treat women as objects, useful only for raw physical sexual gratification. This makes them easier to kill without hesitation or guilt.

They enjoy soldiering, namely bullying, killing, torturing and sometimes raping and pillaging. When they get back they become terminally guilty and kill themselves.

The person obviously has an anti-war / anti-military stance but she hasn't done a very good of formulating her thoughts or arguments.

Sure, there are probably a few individuals that are drawn to professions such as military, police, or nightclub bouncer because they are violent by nature and they see those vocations as outlets for that violence in the same way that a pedophile may be drawn towards being a priest or school teacher.

I don't think that applies to the majority of people who enlist in the military. In the past it seems that idealism was the primary motivator that led many young men to join the army..."we're going to save Europe from the fascists"..."we're going to spread democracy" etc..

Today, it seems that a lot of people who join the army do so because they don't have a lot of other viable options for work. They're poor and joining the military is a pretty quick escape from poverty.

A couple of years ago I met a group of native youth who had joined the Canadian military and were soon to be shipped off to the middle east. They weren't thrilled about going and they seemed to have a good idea of the realistic threats (both physical and psychological) that lay ahead. For them, the alternative to the military would probably be sitting around unemployment and probably succumbing to drugs/alcohol in the milieu of the native reserves.

Yes, if there is in fact a rise in the percentage of veterans who are killing themselves (let's say between those who served in 40s, 50s, 60s vs 2000s, it would be important to try and find out the reasons for this change.

One thing that I do know from my degree in psychology is that self-harm and suicide both seem to have a contagious effect. People see others around them hurting and killing themselves and it suddenly becomes an acceptable option for dealing with one's demons.

At first I was offended. Then I realized it was Rachell Maddow, a man-hating lesbian whose show may garner high ratings for MSNBC, yet still managed fewer viewers than Keith Olbermann. So, if anyone takes her seriously, it's not likely to be someone I'm going to take seriously. No, I expect that tripe from Madcow.

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