Hello - I own a "as new" 2000 w/ 0 bemishes of any kind and never seen rain and has only 28K. It also has the eintire S2 package minus the strut tower brace and the brake upgrade. It also has all the options like the PDC, suede headliner, navi and the ultra lite Dinan wheels.

dtvarnum

11-04-2008 11:18 AM

I just bought my M5 and It is a 2001 with 34,643 miles on the clock. I am trying to stay below 35k by the end of the year.

dtv

SoCalJD

11-04-2008 11:34 AM

double post delete

SoCalJD

11-04-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtvarnum
(Post 3676965)

I just bought my M5 and It is a 2001 with 34,643 miles on the clock. I am trying to stay below 35k by the end of the year.

dtv

>>>

:tsk: That's like saying "I just married Jessica Alba, and Im hoping to only go through one box of condoms by the end of the year."

GBPackerfan1963

11-05-2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socaljd
(Post 3677082)

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:tsk: That's like saying "i just married jessica alba, and im hoping to only go through one box of condoms by the end of the year."

+1000

cjwheeling

11-09-2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalJD
(Post 3677082)

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:tsk: That's like saying "I just married Jessica Alba, and Im hoping to only go through one box of condoms by the end of the year."

You'd wear condoms if you married Jessica Alba?:dunno:

dtvarnum

11-11-2008 02:10 PM

:) :)

Zimmermann

11-21-2008 12:05 PM

I had 81K Miles when I sold my 2002 M5 this summer. It had NO Vanos issues and didn't burn oil, and ran perfectly. I would NOT buy a 2000 or 2001 model, which were prone to oil burning, carbon deposits, and Vanos problems.
The guy who bought my stock M5 has invested about $20K in upgrades, and runs about 650hp (supercharged). No problems so far...but I wouldn't typically recommend this on 81K mile car. As for price...lower mid 20's is about right for good to very good cond.

CSBM5

11-23-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmermann
(Post 3717551)

I would NOT buy a 2000 or 2001 model, which were prone to oil burning, carbon deposits, and Vanos problems.

This is incorrect. Extensive research done on m5board.com by member wilsodh showed no correlation between model year and seconday air system carbon issue. Also, the 2001 is identical to the 2002 M5 with one exception for NA delivered cars -- in 2002 BMWNA made rear air bags/rear head protection system optional at no cost where it was standard in 2001 and 2003 M5s. Other than that issue which makes the 2001 more desirable to some (since very few 2002 M5s ended up with rear head protection/side airbags), there is essentially no difference between 01 and 02 models.

There is no Vanos issue with 2001 cars that is any different from 2002 or 2003 models. There was a change in 2000 M5s where a mod was made to the Vanos to better hold pressure when the engine is off, and I think cars were retrofitted with this change.

There was a piston ring design change as of 3/00 production for the 2000 model year M5 to reduce oil consumption issues some earlier 2000 model cars experienced. All M5 engines after this date are identical.

Hence 2001-2003 M5s are essentially identical cars excepting the rear airbag issue with 2002 cars and for 2003 you get DVD Navigation.

Regards,
Chuck

SoCalJD

11-24-2008 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSBM5
(Post 3722073)

This is incorrect. Extensive research done on m5board.com by member wilsodh showed no correlation between model year and seconday air system carbon issue. Also, the 2001 is identical to the 2002 M5 with one exception for NA delivered cars -- in 2002 BMWNA made rear air bags/rear head protection system optional at no cost where it was standard in 2001 and 2003 M5s. Other than that issue which makes the 2001 more desirable to some (since very few 2002 M5s ended up with rear head protection/side airbags), there is essentially no difference between 01 and 02 models.

There is no Vanos issue with 2001 cars that is any different from 2002 or 2003 models. There was a change in 2000 M5s where a mod was made to the Vanos to better hold pressure when the engine is off, and I think cars were retrofitted with this change.

There was a piston ring design change as of 3/00 production for the 2000 model year M5 to reduce oil consumption issues some earlier 2000 model cars experienced. All M5 engines after this date are identical.

Hence 2001-2003 M5s are essentially identical cars excepting the rear airbag issue with 2002 cars and for 2003 you get DVD Navigation.

Regards,
Chuck

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All 2002's have rear air bags, but they were shipped deactivated. Also, I've read all the vanos data...and I'd still be leery of an 00. Except Martin's S3.:thumbup:

CSBM5

11-24-2008 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalJD
(Post 3722783)

>>>

All 2002's have rear air bags, but they were shipped deactivated. Also, I've read all the vanos data...and I'd still be leery of an 00. Except Martin's S3.:thumbup:

Again, this is incorrect. The ONLY 2002 M5s that have rear airbags are those that were specifically ordered that way by the dealer or new owner. Somewhere in the range of 90% of 2002 BMWNA delivered 2002 M5s do not have the rear airbags (note when referring to rear airbags this means door airbags and the rear HPS system). I had direct contact with BMWNA back in the day about this issue.

Here is the bottom line on E39 M5 rear airbags by model year:

2000 -- rear door airbags only
2001 -- rear door airbags and rear HPS (head protection system airbags) standard
2002 -- for this year only, the rear airbags (both) were OPTIONAL at no cost, but VERY FEW 2002 M5s have them -- easy to check by looking for the AIRBAG embossing at the top back of door upholstery and the HPS embossing on the C-pillar near the light.
2003 -- same as 2001, standard

All rear DOOR airbags were delivered deactivated and required an owner waiver signature to activate. All rear HPS systems were delivered activated regardless of the state of the door airbags.

That's "the word" on rear airbags on the E39 M5 from BMWNA. When I was searching for an M5 back in 2003, I stumbled onto noticing that not a single 2002 M5 I came across had rear airbags, hence I got to the bottom of this issue.

Regards,
Chuck

SoCalJD

11-24-2008 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSBM5
(Post 3722790)

Again, this is incorrect. The ONLY 2002 M5s that have rear airbags are those that were specifically ordered that way by the dealer or new owner. Somewhere in the range of 90% of 2002 BMWNA delivered 2002 M5s do not have the rear airbags (note when referring to rear airbags this means door airbags and the rear HPS system). I had direct contact with BMWNA back in the day about this issue.

Here is the bottom line on E39 M5 rear airbags by model year:

2000 -- rear door airbags only
2001 -- rear door airbags and rear HPS (head protection system airbags) standard
2002 -- for this year only, the rear airbags (both) were OPTIONAL at no cost, but VERY FEW 2002 M5s have them -- easy to check by looking for the AIRBAG embossing at the top back of door upholstery and the HPS embossing on the C-pillar near the light.
2003 -- same as 2001, standard

All rear DOOR airbags were delivered deactivated and required an owner waiver signature to activate. All rear HPS systems were delivered activated regardless of the state of the door airbags.

That's "the word" on rear airbags on the E39 M5 from BMWNA. When I was searching for an M5 back in 2003, I stumbled onto noticing that not a single 2002 M5 I came across had rear airbags, hence I got to the bottom of this issue.

Regards,
Chuck

>>>

Ok...I think I remember this discussion before...and I believe the discrepancy was that the 02' catalog, which says they all come with airbags, was incorrect. I have them, but I'm sure they're deactivated.

CSBM5

11-24-2008 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalJD
(Post 3722797)

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Ok...I think I remember this discussion before...and I believe the discrepancy was that the 02' catalog, which says they all come with airbags, was incorrect. I have them, but I'm sure they're deactivated.

Exactly. BMWNA freaked out over rear airbag liability briefly and decided at the last minute to delete them as standard equipment for the 2002 model year with the thinking being that if an owner specifically ordered them, he/she would would be on the hook knowing they are there. It was a flawed plan that was undone for the 2003 model year. The 2002 brochures were already printed when they made the decision to make them optional.

Cheers,
Chuck

beewang

11-24-2008 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by firehire
(Post 3591446)

I've got 48K. You might want to inhabit the m5board to get more of your questions answered. :thumbup:

Whoa!! Wait a sec!! When did you get an M5??!!:yikes: WTH??!! CopyCat??!!:p

Frye

12-04-2008 09:46 AM

With 80 k on it I don't think I would pay above 20. I've seen pristine E39 M5's with 60k on them for way cheaper then that lately. See if you can get them down.

Ryan...

01-27-2009 07:43 PM

114,000 miles, but not worth too much, being salvage and all... :cry:
But that's OK, still runs like a frickin champ!