{Ed002's Note - I expect a loan in January for JW - Fenerbahce or possibly Trabzonspor look the most likely right now. Arsenal will also look to moving others on in January if they are still surplus to the needs.}

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12 Sep 2017 16:36:49
Thanks as always Ed, are you aware of Debuchy (still) being considered surplus? He might be of some use as the season progresses unless he/ the club have determined otherwise.

13 Sep 2017 06:48:02
Tomorrow night will clearly illustrate the future plans for both Debuchy and Wilshere. If either player isn't at least included in the matchday squad then they are clearly surplus to requirements. In respect of Debuchy his departure is a forgone conclusion and I would imagine it is only his £80,000 a week pay packet that is the reason we haven't moved him on. It questions Wenger's handling of his player who cost us £12m, plus £20m in wages over this 5 year deal and without checking I doubt he has played 50 matches. I would take the opportunity to play Wilshere in the EL and League Cup matches, as he will be extremely motivated and it gives one last chance to see f he had what it takes to remain at the club and remain fit. With Coquelin injured and Xhaka due a rest after international duty, it makes sense to play Wilshere alongside Elneny.

{Ed001's Note - I had to look it up because I was wondering how many appearances Debuchy has made. 23! Not even half the 50 matches you thought was a low figure. That is shocking.}

13 Sep 2017 07:52:35
Thanks Ed001 - If Debuchy plays no further matches for us and remains on the payroll until the end of his contract, that equates to approx £1.3m per match!
What concerns me is when we bought him as a replacement for Sanga, he was keeping Sanga out of the French national team and I was thrilled to see him coming in as a replacement for the excellent Sagna, who I was sad to see leave, yet Wenger managed to play a part in his decline from being a top international RB, to the position where we can't even loan him out.
One of Wenger's problems is that he tends to select the same team, which means quality back ups rarely get a game. As a result they go off form, lose match fitness and become disgruntled. Even after relatively few matches this season, we haven't seen much of certain quality players, such as: Giroud, Walcott, Debuchy, Wilshere, Iwobi, Elneny and the superbly talented Nelson. We could select an experienced team tomorrow, without the likely starting 11 who will play against Chelsea. As many of the first 11 have recently played 2 international matches, perhaps this is an ideal opportunity to rest them anad allow other players to play. With League Cup and EL matches coming up thick and fast, this seems an ideal opportunity to give players much needed match time.

13 Sep 2017 08:00:11
Debuchy was a huge hit when he first arrived then got injured and Belerin took his place.
The bloke has been a bit unfortunate and in hindsight with Belerin and Jenks signing him was a mistake but no one could have predicted Belerin would come from nowhere and do so well at the time.

13 Sep 2017 10:50:05
Hi Gunner62 - I'm not sure signing Debuchy was a mistake as Jenkinson has never looked sufficiently talented to become a squad player at the club and has been jetisoned long ago. Unfortunately Debuchy suffered serious injury and Bellerin came through. However, I'm sure that a fit Debuchy would provide decent cover for Bellerin, who must be rested at some stage. The same goes for Wilshere who can provide cover for Cazorla and is as similar a player as you will get to deputise for the Spaniard.

13 Sep 2017 19:48:00
RG, when we signed him and gave him this contract he was first choice but was unfortunate to lose his place to bellerin as G62 mentioned, so what Wenger can do here the contract was already signed. And his wage at the time sounded reasonable. You can't seriously blame wenger on every thing, yes he made mistakes on few contracts but this one you can't throw it at him too.

13 Sep 2017 20:17:19
Hi RG Debuchy never joined us to be cover for anyone and we didn't sign him for that either, when he arrived Jenks was looking good and on the back of his good form won an England call up and who exactly was Hector Belerin? One of a host of young Arsenal hopefuls who at the time was more likely to join lots other young Arsenal hopefuls into obscurity as become a star.
No one could have predicted Debuchy injury and certainly not Belerins supersonic rise to stardom but one thing is for sure Debuchy didn't join Arsenal to be Belerins back up player.
Hindsight is a pretty widespread skill for predicting the past but pretty useless skill for anything else.
Unfortunately the Euromillions don't pay out on getting all last week's numbers right this week :-)