Originally posted by welshreduk
I often hear how "Nibiru" means "crossing" or "point of transition" so could it be that the word Nibiru was taken out of context and actually simply
means the Earth/Solar System "crossing" or " transitioning" the galactic plane or something like that rather than referring to a planet?

Here is a crop circle depicting one of the most ancient symbols known to mankind, the Yin-Yang symbol famous from the I-Ching. Do you think it could
also represent the relationship earth has with another solar body?

How does NO sound?

You really are clutching at straws here. You provide no credible sources and are now relying on crop circles to back up your argument.

Moore is a charlatan. He makes all sorts of wacko claims and people fall for it.

Back in 2008 he claimed that the military was being brought back to the US in unprecedented numbers to impose martial law. His claim was that he got
the information over lunch from his intelligence buddies.

Moore gets a big F on that.

Moore claimed that now hurricanes were forming over land. He used a photo of a hurricane breaking up over land as his evidence. What a liar.

Moore gets a big F on that.

Moore supports the idea that a pole shift, the kind proposed by Hancock, is going to happen. They never have. It's just more wacko commentary from a
guy who is lying about the source of his information.

Moore also claims that Russian troops are stationed in the US and will continue to increase to between 30 and 100 thousand by year's end. He also got
involved in the claims that Russian troops would take over secret underground installations in Denver earlier this year.

Originally posted by Pardon?
Come on people, enough is enough.
Nibiru may exist, maybe in another dimension but certainly not in this one < removes tongue from cheek >.

Seriously though, being an amateur astronomer of nearly 40 years who's travelled all over the world to look at the skies, I can categorically state I
have seen no evidence either visually or via radio-telescopy of this mythical celestial body.
An earlier poster pointed out that Nibiru's light is in the infra-red frequency which somehow renders it almost invisible. Absolute nonsense. It is
so easy to convert a standard telescope into infra-red using even a very basic digital sensor. The difficult part is keeping the housing of the scope
cool but in winter, certainly in the UK, that's not much of a problem. And in the Antarctic, where some fervent Nibiru supporters believe it can ONLY
be seen, the conditions are perfect for infra-red telescopy.
I know it's difficult for people to admit they're wrong especially those who follow the likes of Sitchin but the best thing to do is either admit
defeat or turn your interests to something more productive as there in NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER to support your claims. Nothing.

On the subject of Sitchin, he made an awful lot of money on the back of his falsehoods, his deliberate misinterpretations and his twisting of the
"facts" capitalising on the gullibility of "new-agers". The same goes for Von Daniken, Icke, Temple etc etc.
Charlatans to a man.

Ya that's kinda what I heard to. Glad someone could confirm this. They think it's a Dark matter planet or something like that though, which is why
we can't see it right?

Well, I've never heard anyone call Jupiter a star, but just going off the top of my head as I'm on the run and too busy to look this up, but aren't
they discovering smaller quasi-planetary bodies out past pluto all the time? Also, aren't the voyagers only now reaching the edge of the solar
system, and they've been past Pluto for how many years? I don't know how much stock people put into this guy, he had many threads on here, but
hasn't John Lear said there are more than 50 planets in our solar system?

There are only 8 planets plus many smaller objects.

What is known is that any unknown planet sized object must be very far away if it is to remain undetected. Furthermore, celestial dynamics tell us
that no object can exist that has a highly eccentric yet stable orbit. Such an object would have moved to a stable more circular orbit or been ejected
from the solar system early in the existence of the solar system.

Is there something out there? Maybe. If it is it must be far, far away and never come close.

I stand corrected My apologies to Academician Dmitriev. The problem is, although he does have some theories about the impact of interstellar wind on
the Earth's climate, he nowhere (in the Russian literature I have just found) talks about Nibiru. He might somewhere. He is an advocate of abandoning
modern western materialism in favor of Agni Yoga.

Feel free to ignore any you feel have psuedosceptic traits, sociopathic traits etc.

Is that why you haven't explained why heading to the hills will save only the good? Or why the good who don't heed your warning will be destroyed
because they live near the coast? What will be the agency that restores this "equilibrium?"

Originally posted by Phage
Jupiter only "gives off" light in infrared. So does Saturn, Mars, and Venus. We can see them because they reflect the visible light of the Sun.

But Nibiru doesn't give off light in infrared, nor does it reflect the light of the Sun. Nibiru does not exist.

So no objects in the universe absorb reflected light?

So you are saying it both absorbs and reflects light?

How can that be?

Oh, that's right, it can't.

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Actually most objects reflect and absorb light. Depending on the wavelentghs they absorb you get varying colors. Funny fact, an object is actually the
inverted color of what you see, because what you see is the light it did not absorb. But yeah, there is still no planet heading for earth.

Which are also tiny moons but they still found them, "Nibiru" is suppose to be 3-4 times the size of Jupiter

I wonder about that size though is that the size of it or its MASS= to 3-4 Jupiters for this matters. It can be as small as the LUNAR moon and have
that type of MASS, if its mass you speaking of and not its actual size??

Look at the stupidity of his broadcast material. He has an asteroid that misses the Earth actually hitting the Earth. Sound like a fear monger to you?
It does to me. Asteroid 2012-DA14 is the object in question.

This clown also claims that Nibiru will be closest to Earth August 17th to September 26th. Guess he is talking to dweebs that never get their butts
out of the house and look up.

This clown also has the bit with Sitchin meeting Harrington. Harrington wanted nothing to do with Sitchin. It is an embarrassment to Harrington that
his search for Planet X is smeared by Sitchin and now Moore.

Don't forget all of you Moore lovers that this clown has been claiming that Nibiru was imminent since 2008. For 4 years he has been spewing out the
same trite nonsense. Just as he has done with all of his other failures such as the Gulf Stream stopped, he will move onto to other nonsense for the
delight of those that ingest this rubbish.

Must it be a known EA*RTH mineral what the DYSON SPHERE is made of??? I mean the crafts are said to traverse the Universe and it doesnt have to be
the exact size of LUNA I was using that as an example.

Also its engine/power source may be related to something that has a massive amount of mass output signature when in different modes like deepspace
high speed travel or solar system COAST mode both types of activities would cause different output sigs from the engin/powersource. OUTTA BOX if you
had the power to harness a neutron star / magnatar or black hole inside a power containment device would you then have a device that can create A
HEAVY MASS SIGNATURE within your crafts???

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