:'''Disagree'''; I think a quote which is more "profound" on the nature of [[Hobbits]] would be better --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

:'''Disagree'''; I think a quote which is more "profound" on the nature of [[Hobbits]] would be better --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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=== Fingolfin v. Morgoth ===

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{{quote|[[Morgoth]] held hurled aloft [[Grond (Hammer of the Underworld)|Grond, Hammer of the Underworld]], and swung it down like a bolt of thunder. But Fingolfin sprang aside, and [[Grond (Hammer of the Underworld)|Grond]] rent a mighty pit in the earth, whence smoke and fire darted. Many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time [[Fingolfin]] leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of [[Angband]] fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the [[Northlands]].|{{S|Fingolfin}}}}

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I know it's a longer one - and I don't mind it being made shorter (in fact it probably is a bit too long; maybe from "''Many times...''" onwards) - but I just love it because I have a natural bias towards Fingolfin! Indeed, any of the quotes from this paragraph or the subsequent couple of paragraphs would, I think, be excellent because it captures a key even in the history of [[Arda]] with Tolkien's excellent literary skill. Also, would be good to have a quote about a non-[[Third Age]] event. '''Proposed by:''' --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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:'''Agree''': I like the quote in full. It gives a good idea of the tone of Sil. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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:'''Agree''': Great Quote! Good to have a quote from The Silmarillion... -- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 21:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

List of 52 nominated quotes

In the last two meetings it was decided to draw up a list of 52 or more quotes in order to have fresh quotes for an entire year. So anyone should feel free to add quotes to the following list or comment on them:

48 done, (at least) 4 to go

The Fellowship of the Ring

"'Proudfeet!' shouted an elderly hobbit from the back of the pavillion. His name, of course, was Proudfoot, and well merited; his feet were large, exceptionally furry, and both were on the table."

"Seek for the Sword that was broken:In Imladris it dwells;There shall be counsels takenStronger than Morgul-spells.There shall be shown a tokenThat Doom is near at hand,For Isildur's Bane shall waken,And the Halfling forth shall stand."

"Let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy! For he is very wise, and weighs all things to a nicety in the scales of his malice. But the only measure that he knows is desire, desire for power; and so he judges all hearts. Into his heart the thought will not enter that any will refuse it, that having the Ring we may seek to destroy it. If we seek this, we shall put him out of reckoning."

"I had thought of putting: and he lived happily ever afterwards to the end of his days. It is a good ending, and none the worse for having been used before. Now I shall have to alter that: it does not look like coming true."

""You cannot pass," he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass.""

"And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!"

"Memory is not what the heart desires. That is only a mirror, be it clear as Kheled-zâram. Or so says the heart of Gimli the Dwarf. Elves may see things otherwise. Indeed I have heard that for them memory is more like to the waking world than to a dream. Not so for Dwarves."

"For the Elves the world moves, and it moves both very swift and very slow. Swift, because they themselves change little, and all else fleets by: it is a grief to them. Slow, because they do not count the running years, not for themselves."

The Two Towers

"Gondor! Gondor, between the Mountains and the Sea!West Wind blew there; the light upon the Silver TreeFell like bright rain in gardens of the Kings of old.O proud walls! White towers! O winged crown and throne of gold!O Gondor, Gondor! Shall Men behold the Silver Tree,Or West Wind blow again between the Mountains and the Sea?"

"Out of the shadows the hobbits peeped, gazing back down the slope:little furtive figures that in the dim light looked like elf-children in the deeps of time peering out of the Wild Wood in wonder at their first dawn."

"Learn now the lore of Living Creatures!First name the four, the free peoples:Eldest of all, the elf-children;Dwarf the delver, dark are his houses;Ent the earthborn, old as mountains;Man the mortal, master of horses."

"To Isengard! Though Isengard be ringed and barred with doors of stone;Though Isengard be strong and hard, as cold as stone and bare as bone,We go, we go, we go to war, to hew the stone and break the door;For bole and bough are burning now, the furnace roars - we go to war!To land of gloom with tramp of doom, with roll of drum, we come, we come;To Isengard with doom we come!With doom we come, with doom we come!"

"Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?"

"It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace-all in a flash of thought which was quickly driven from his mind."

The Return of The King

"I count many things: stars in sky, leaves on trees, men in the dark. You have a score of scores counted ten times and five. They have more. Big fight, and who will win? And many more walk round walls of Stone-houses."

"But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him."

"'Master Meriadoc,' said Aragorn, 'if you think that I have passed through the mountains and the realm of Gondor with fire and sword to bring herbs to a careless soldier who throws away his gear, you are mistaken. If your pack has not been found, then you must send for the herb-master of this House. And he will tell you that he did not know that the herb you desire had any virtues, but that it is called westmansweed by the vulgar, and galenas by the noble, and other names in other tongues more learned, and after adding a few half-forgotten rhymes that he does not understand, he will regretfully inform you that there is none in the House, and he will leave you to reflect on the history of tongues. And so now must I. For I have not slept in such a bed as this, since I rode from Dunharrow, nor eaten since the dark before dawn.'"

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.""

"For upon that road I was put to shame: Gimli Gloin's son, who had deemed himself more tough than Men, and hardier under earth than any Elf. But neither did I prove; and I was held to the road only by the will of Aragorn."

"Dwarf-coat, elf-cloak, blade of the downfallen West, and spy from the little rat-land of the Shire, nay; do not start! We know it well - here are the marks of a conspiracy. Now, maybe he that bore these things was a creature that you would not grieve to lose, and maybe otherwise: one dear to you, perhaps? If so, take swift counsel with what little wit is left to you. For Sauron does not love spies, and what his fate shall be depends now on your choice."

The Hobbit

The Silmarillion

"Morgoth held hurled aloft Grond, Hammer of the Underworld, and swung it down like a bolt of thunder. But Fingolfin sprang aside, and Grond rent a mighty pit in the earth, whence smoke and fire darted. Many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time Fingolfin leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of Angband fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the Northlands."

Unfinished Tales

"When you think of the great Battle of Pelennor, do not forget the Battle of Dale. Think of what might have been. Dragon-fire and savage swords in Eriador! There might be no Queen in Gondor. We might now only hope to return from the victory here to ruin and ash. But that has been averted – because I met Thorin Oakenshield one evening on the edge of spring not far from Bree. A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth."

Comments

I'm not sure where to place this, but I'll put it here. I think the balance of the overall set of quotes is too far in favour of TLOTR, as I think we should have more from other publications, especially The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. What does everyone else think? --Mith(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Featured Quote Nominations

There have never really been any standards for a Featured Quote, but let us begin. Following the general model of the Featured Article, let's specify a nomination followed by five affirmative votes; state either Agree or Disagree. The nominated quote should not exceed a single paragraph.

Tolkien's Own

"The Hobbits are just rustic English people, made small in size because it reflects the generally small reach of their imagination --not the small reach of their courage or latent power."

Disagree; though, yes, Tolkien wrote them all, the first and third are in-universe and should thus be attributed to their respective characters. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 07:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Disagree; I think a quote which is more "profound" on the nature of Hobbits would be better --Mith(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Gandalf at The Last Debate

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.""

Agree: I like this quote because it tells how Frodo gets the ring. It's great how relaxed Gandalf tells Frodo that he has inherited the most powerful object in middle-earth... -- Eldarion Telcontar 23:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree: I love how nonchalant Gandalf is here, it's a good reflection of his true character. If I can agree to my own nomination, then here it is! --Breragor• (Talk • Contribs • Edits) 20:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Undecided: Maybe just the the second line only (if we follow the rules above, we shouldn't have more than one paragraph). --Mith(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)