I was wondering, I usually shoot Triple 7, 32 grains in my steel frame 1860, and 22 grains in my brass frame 51. Is this too much, or am I about right. I know it's supposed to be a little bit hotter than some other propellants out there. Any input would be much appreciated!

that's all I have now. But if the explosive power at a lower range is equal to what the b.p. would be, I don't see how it would make a difference. After all, all the cap and balls I know say "black powder only". Except for some purists that I see on some of the forums I frequent, I don't see anyone doing that. Anybody elses take on trip 7 in a brass frame?

ok, did some research, and from what I can glean, brassers are ok with 10-12 gr, steel about 17-20. I'll try that next time I go to the range, and as long as it seems to be shooting fine, I guess that's what I'll go by. In the meantime, I thing I will try and find someplace around here that has either real b.p., or I guess pyrodex

I can find no mention (either for or against) of 777 use in brass framed guns on Hodgdon's web site.

Hodgdon does advise using volume measurements only, and advises 777 be reduced by 15% to obtain performance equivalent to specific black powder loads. That is the procedure I used to obtain the recommendations in my post above.

yup, I couldn't either. I found some old threads on some sights and there was one old boy that had been using between 10-12 in his brass frames for a long time, with no problems. Also saw some recommendations to drop the load in the steel frame to the low 20's. I'm going to try these loadings next time I go to the range, and see how my performance is. If I don't see an issue with it, I'll probably stick with it. I could order pyrodex from Cabelas, but I've heard it gets dirty real quick, and the range at Ft. Hood does not allow you to clean guns on the line, or on the bench behind the safe line when they call an all clear. Kinda don't have a source of soapy water there either, lol!

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