23:53 - Sunny PagliaccioNote to self: Do NOT open links on max volume in the middle of a quiet night. Otherwise, not bad. :D

23:52 - ApothecaryFast food workers planning a strike in support of $15/hour wages next month. I'm a tutor in a reading lab at a college and I don't even make that much, a bit of an overestimation of one's importance, don'tcha think?

The good old Immolation, you can't loose with this band if you are into Extreme Metal, there is a question that most Immolation fans can't answer (or don't want to answer, or don't even care), Is Unholy Cult better than Close To A World Below? Well I'll do my best to answer this question right now.

Like most things Immolation I've always found this one to be inconsistent. There are some moments of greatness and then completely generic and overdone Death Metal moments or what sounds like half formed ideas.

I always think that if you scraped together their entire discography and then sifted through it you'd get get 2 phenomenal albums.

I actually think this is one of the most consistent death metal albums out there, made by one of the most consistent death metal bands.

My problem with Immolation is that the albums always start off well but then midway lose steam and either start repeating ideas or just go all generic. They also often disrupt the flow of a song with disjointed riff changes

Majesty and Decay is a great example of this. It starts off like it's going to be the greatest DM album of all time and then runs out of steam and goes all generic Immolation.

Harnessing Ruin is the only one where think they actually pulled it off fro start to finish.

That's as backwards an opinion if I've ever seen one. Harnessing Ruin is definitely their worse, even considering how consistent the band is. It's totally average, even Kingdom of Conspiracy is better by miles. This album (and the ones before it) are easily Immolation's best and prime death metal albums.

Try out Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma (sounds a lot like Morbid Angel when you play their vinyl on 45rpm instead of 33rpm ), Cruciamentum, Miasmal, Stench Of Decay, Anatomia (very very Autopsy like) to name but a few

I also had a listen to some other OSDM bands like Entrails and old Entombed. There seems to be an conspicuous difference between this and OSDM.

I'll admit that after to listening to Dead Congregation's 2008 output, I heard some similarities, but then again, that doesn't sound like OSDM either

Try out Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma (sounds a lot like Morbid Angel when you play their vinyl on 45rpm instead of 33rpm ), Cruciamentum, Miasmal, Stench Of Decay, Anatomia (very very Autopsy like) to name but a few

I also had a listen to some other OSDM bands like Entrails and old Entombed. There seems to be an conspicuous difference between this and OSDM.

I'll admit that after to listening to Dead Congregation's 2008 output, I heard some similarities, but then again, that doesn't sound like OSDM either

There's a difference between US osdm and Swedish osdm and Finnish osdm.
Especially due to the fact that Swedish osdm primarily gets their guitar sound from the Boss HM2 pedal. Whereas that one isn't used by the US osdm bands.

There's a difference between US osdm and Swedish osdm and Finnish osdm.
Especially due to the fact that Swedish osdm primarily gets their guitar sound from the Boss HM2 pedal. Whereas that one isn't used by the US osdm bands.

I see...well could you share some US OSDM? Like I said, I love the sound and want some more

I think due to the production this album especially stands out as more smothering than the typical Immolation album, which is also probably why it's typically regarded as one of their best - if not the best album in their discography. I personally don't think it has the same kind of catacomb-like atmosphere of a Mitochondrion per se, but I do agree that it isn't your typical old school death metal album.

I actually think this is one of the most consistent death metal albums out there, made by one of the most consistent death metal bands.

My problem with Immolation is that the albums always start off well but then midway lose steam and either start repeating ideas or just go all generic. They also often disrupt the flow of a song with disjointed riff changes

Majesty and Decay is a great example of this. It starts off like it's going to be the greatest DM album of all time and then runs out of steam and goes all generic Immolation.

Harnessing Ruin is the only one where think they actually pulled it off fro start to finish.

The new one is meh.

The problem is Death Metal is always not easy to listen especially pure death (probably that's why Morbid Angel added thrash to Altar of Madness for the sales).

Immolation is a very lyric-orientated band, they're different from other bands, they usually write lyrics before melodies. If you don't pay attention to their lyrics you don't get the whole composition. That's why a lot of listeners found their albums very inconsistant, actually they missed the direction.

Quote:"Does an Immolation song start with a riff, a signature bleeding lead, or a blasphemous lyric - or does it change from album to album or even song to song? Also, is the entire band involved in the writing process, or can that vary, too?

Usually I will write the music first -- come up with a basic arrangement. Then we work on it together until the arrangement is solid. After that is where the lyrics come in -- you get the feeling from the song and pretty much match it up with some concepts you may have. Each song has a particular feel that lends itself to a certain subject matter. It changes from time to time, though."

Ah so it's basically the exact opposite of what GodBuster said... good to know!

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.

No, you were just talking shit again. Speaking factually when you had no possession of any facts. Pretty standard for you. You have no credibility any more.

It was not a report but only my speculation according to my repeatedly exploration to their music.
I chose not to believe what he'd said. Stressing music comes first could be their camouflage to their Trade Secret.
I seriously don't know, it's just a subject which is open for discussion.

No, you were just talking shit again. Speaking factually when you had no possession of any facts. Pretty standard for you. You have no credibility any more.

This is only a forum for disccusion, not reporting something.

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive

When you say that a band writes the lyrics before the music this is not speculation; it's either pure guesswork or proven fact. There can either be one right answer or a wrong one, and you got it flat out wrong which shows that you were lying. You can try to wriggle out of it if you like, like you usually do, but that won't save you from the fact you "report" things as though actual facts on a regular basis when you are clearly making them up.

I didn't mean to gain any credibility here as I am not a reporter to publish anything concrete here.
What I am saying here are trivias, personal opinions even some speculations that are really hard to prove.
it's you took them too seriously. sometimes even... too aggressive

...it's either pure guesswork or proven fact. There can either be one right answer or a wrong one...

It's my pure guesswork, it could be wrong (and it could be right)
You didn't ask that's why your assumptions were always not valid