Vegan Meat Popsicle:wingnut396: Have you seen the graphs? You must have not seen the graphs. The graphs don't lie. Careful with that kingd of talk or you may summon the graph master.

Oh, great. Now I'm having flashbacks to the old ATI vs nVidia slap fights that retards used to get into on Slashdot back in the day....

This also mirrors the good ol' days of Sega v Nintendo, Sony v Microsoft, etc. I'll admit to taking part in console flame wars back in the day when I was vested in my particular system. Thankfully I was able to move beyond that and see that both sides do offer some good things. There's no reason you can't use whichever you like best without feeling you have to defend your choice. You like Apple stuff? Great, more power to you! Think Android is awesomesauce?. Awesome, I won't stand in your way.

/screw nVidia though, seriously... had two of their cards die after driver updates

As far as I can tell, the Reality Distortion Field IS gone. The iPhone 5 is a huge disappointment for the hype - I don't think Steve would have approved. The iPhone 5 is simply more like Android - without the maps. I think each major iteration of iPhone before this had something new to offer that consumers really liked. This version just...doesn't.

Apple lives on a rollercoaster. It sells essentially 4 products. If it screws up one of those products for an iteration, your retirement fund is imploding. We're at yet another peak, with a long drop below.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost:digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Saying that driving directions may be incorrect is not inferring that anyone is going to be physically harmed. Of course, that's not counting your obvious butthurt over a flawed iApp.

1. I never said anyone would be injured.2. How is calling out a troll the same as butthurt?3. Why do you keep assuming I don't use Android myself?

Your quote:

You're insinuating people will be harmed because of faulty iPhone directions. I realize you're very much personally invested in this topic, but get a grip man.

Pointing out a problem with an app is not trolling.Although I don't have an iPhone, I do use other Apple products (posted from my MacBook Pro)I'm just calling out Apple for over selling and under delivering on the maps app.

You've been whining about iPhone Maps all farking week and you don't even have an iPhone. That's farking trollin' bruh.

While it would be nice to have an actual discussion, like we did in the Nexus thread yesterday, your ilk come in here and take shiat after shiat.

tortilla burger:As far as I can tell, the Reality Distortion Field IS gone. The iPhone 5 is a huge disappointment for the hype - I don't think Steve would have approved. The iPhone 5 is simply more like Android - without the maps. I think each major iteration of iPhone before this had something new to offer that consumers really liked. This version just...doesn't.

We've also reached the point where there ain't much more to add to phones. That affects all phone makers. Over the past 5 years, the chips became small enough, fast enough, cheap enough, that things that weren't possible before like GPS, browsers and wifi become possible. But then what do you do? Faster processor? To what end? You're going to be zipping through javascript, but your TCP/IP stack is still going to be sitting there waiting for data to arrive. It's like owning a Ferrari for a daily commute - you won't get there any faster than a Toyota.

digistil:Abe Vigoda's Ghost: digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Saying that driving directions may be incorrect is not inferring that anyone is going to be physically harmed. Of course, that's not counting your obvious butthurt over a flawed iApp.

1. I never said anyone would be injured.2. How is calling out a troll the same as butthurt?3. Why do you keep assuming I don't use Android myself?

Your quote:

You're insinuating people will be harmed because of faulty iPhone directions. I realize you're very much personally invested in this topic, but get a grip man.

Pointing out a problem with an app is not trolling.Although I don't have an iPhone, I do use other Apple products (posted from my MacBook Pro)I'm just calling out Apple for over selling and under delivering on the maps app.

You've been whining about iPhone Maps all farking week and you don't even have an iPhone. That's farking trollin' bruh.

While it would be nice to have an actual discussion, like we did in the Nexus thread yesterday, your ilk come in here and take shiat after shiat.

Seriously, all I posted was; 'Apple hyped the maps app, and it's flawed.People that use their iPhones for GPS are pretty much taking chances with driving directions being incorrect.'All of which are true.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost:Seriously, all I posted was; 'Apple hyped the maps app, and it's flawed.People that use their iPhones for GPS are pretty much taking chances with driving directions being incorrect.'All of which are true.

Wow. So you're not only a threadshiatter, but also too cowardly to admit it.

Night Night Cream Puff:Thankfully I was able to move beyond that and see that both sides do offer some good things. There's no reason you can't use whichever you like best without feeling you have to defend your choice.

It is your fault you got raped because you wouldn't give sex to your attacker!

Apple was totally cool with Google sexing them up right up until Google tried to slip it in the back door. Now all of a sudden Apple doesn't want anything to do with Google. Google is all, "Hey baby, come on. I slipped. I'm sorry. Let's just go back to the way things was." And Apple is all, "Nuh uh! I'mma get my OWN maps."

Vegan Meat Popsicle:// because I only replace my phone when I absolutely have to, and that usually doesn't happen to coincide with the latest iPhone release meaning the latest iPhone, with it's much slower release schedule, is usually technically inferior to whatever top tier Android phone happens to be launching at the particular hour I'm in the Verizon store

This is a big part of why Android gains share. If Samsung, HTC, Motorola and Apple released one phone a year around the same time, they'd all be pretty close. But since everyone but Apple releases multiple phones whenever they please, the Android phone is always the most technologically advanced phone available. Apple would have a little window of being ahead right after their phone releases if they actually did anything new. Unfortunately for Apple users, the iPhone has been playing catch up for years.

digistil:Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Seriously, all I posted was; 'Apple hyped the maps app, and it's flawed.People that use their iPhones for GPS are pretty much taking chances with driving directions being incorrect.'All of which are true.

Wow. So you're not only a threadshiatter, but also too cowardly to admit it.

I don't know what you saw in other threads, but the post that raged your ire in this thread was actually factually correct, and not very emotionally charged. From a 3rd party persepective... you're the one trolling him.

Vegan Meat Popsicle:Is this Maps thing really that big a deal anyway? At this point if your head is so firmly lodged up your ass that you staunchly refuse to buy one phone or another based solely on who made it something as inconsequential as being routed to the local fishmonger instead of a nearby Starbucks probably isn't going to change anything.

People don't buy Apple products because they're quality products. People buy Apple products because they're fashion accessories. Functionally, there is little significant difference between any given high-end Android phone and the latest iPhone release. There are apps that suck on the iPhone and apps that suck on Android. You're going to get largely the same experience on either though, on the average.

I do enjoy watching the True Believers flip the fark out and start screaming their fool heads off every time anything goes wrong with one or the other though. It's always amusing to watch people argue so vociferously over which little plastic box with fart apps is the "best" little plastic box with fart apps on this particular day....

/ I will probably never buy an iPhone// because I only replace my phone when I absolutely have to, and that usually doesn't happen to coincide with the latest iPhone release meaning the latest iPhone, with it's much slower release schedule, is usually technically inferior to whatever top tier Android phone happens to be launching at the particular hour I'm in the Verizon store

Why does anyone take Gizmodo seriously? Look at the putz who wrote this article. He's a paid shill and "water-carrier" for the anti-Apple propaganda machine, and there he is pointing out some guys he thinks do the same job for Apple. Does he think that gives him any credibility at all?

Hey idiot, if we can't believe what they're saying, then we can't believe you either.

digistil:Abe Vigoda's Ghost: jcb274: Maybe I haven't been following this story well, but is the app really that bad? Let me preface this by saying that I'm lazy, so if something has features I like and it takes no effort to use, I like it. With that said, the interface is almost identical (you interact in pretty much the same way as the old one). The map itself looks fine. And it has turn-by-turn directions built in. Am I missing some horrible flaw where the addition of a feature that I really appreciate is outweighed by some issue?

Apple hyped the maps app, and it's flawed.People that use their iPhones for GPS are pretty much taking chances with driving directions being incorrect.

I do enjoy watching the True Believers flip the fark out and start screaming their fool heads off every time anything goes wrong with one or the other though. It's always amusing to watch people argue so vociferously over which little plastic box with fart apps is the "best" little plastic box with fart apps on this particular day...

They flip out more whenever anyone dares to make a negative comment about Apple or it's products. As a group they are a bunch of whining cry babies. Many of them can't handle the fact that some people might want a product that doesn't have the Apple brand on it.

The more I read about Apple, the more I wish I hadn't bought an iPhone.

I haven't read much about Steve Jobs, is this his "legacy"? Or is this how the others in the Company wanted to run it....

I dunno. It sounds like there are lots of labeling issues. Like if you were to plug in an address you'd probably be ok. And no one in this thread has pointed out an issue in the US yet. Not that it's not a concern in Europe, it just appears to be less of one here. Like I said, I upgraded, it represents an improvement for me, so I'm fine with it.

If anything, pretending an issue isn't an issue while quietly fixing it is Steve Jobs-esque. But, it's hard to say whether he would have signed off on releasing an integrated app with known glitches or just held off on releasing it until it was perfect. If anything, Tim Cook apologizing is a new (improved) twist.

It is an upgrade for you because of how terribly behind Apple is regarding navigation on phone. To have a GPS on your Apple phone you either had to use Google Maps and orientate the phone like a compass to get directions or buy a third party app from Garmin or something.

Every Android phones comes with two GPS apps. First, they have Google Navigation, which is related to Google Maps, but better. Second, they have the navi for whatever phone manufacturer/carrier. (VZ Navigator, Telenav GPS, etc).

True, and the same can be said about the users of other non-Apple products. Fort the past couple of decades other users have put up with iFans bashing anything non-Apple without complaint, yet Apple is supposed to be above criticism.

They flip out more whenever anyone dares to make a positive comment about Apple or it is products. As a group they are a bunch of whining cry babies. Many of them can't handle the fact that some people might want a product that has the Apple brand on it.

Latinwolf:farkeruk: I'm an Android user and I recognise it's shortcomings...

True, and the same can be said about the users of other non-Apple products. Fort the past couple of decades other users have put up with iFans bashing anything non-Apple without complaint, yet Apple is supposed to be above criticism.

ROFL, look at the crApple fanboys Flail to defend there ovrpriced Hipster purchase

sorry crApple fans but Lord Job$ did not invent GPS or Navigation. Droid has had these features For years. Oh but I now nothing existd until crApple invented it.

This is the final nail in crApple's coffin. The only people left buying there inferior garbage are Fanboys obsessed with Brand loyalty. Everyone else has wised up to there Shiny overpriced paperweights, and a reckoninf is comng.

Droid is freedom.Droid us security.Droid is the Invovation sweeping the world and changing how we use Technology.

The most bizarre thing is this years line up with what they've done to the Nano.

Last gen was an ingenious little doodad, and I think one of the greatest things Apple has produced. It was spearheading a whole niche the smart watches, and was hugely popular. It promised great things in the future.

And now it's become this, a weird Nokia ripoff, and totally unwatchifiable. What in god's name were they thinking? What market is this for that isn't already saturated?

digistil:Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Saying that driving directions may be incorrect is not inferring that anyone is going to be physically harmed. Of course, that's not counting your obvious butthurt over a flawed iApp.

1. I never said anyone would be injured.2. How is calling out a troll the same as butthurt?3. Why do you keep assuming I don't use Android myself?

AVG posted:Apple hyped the maps app, and it's flawed.People that use their iPhones for GPS are pretty much taking chances with driving directions being incorrect.

You replied:You're insinuating people will be harmed because of faulty iPhone directions. I realize you're very much personally invested in this topic, but get a grip man.

wildcardjack:Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field brought to you by RadioShack

Because if there's anyone that knows about distorting reality, it's RadioShack.

/Go out of business already.

Radio Shack is the only place you can go when you need a 2n3904 transistor or a 500ma 5x20 fuse. They've cut way back on the variety of parts they stock, but there is absolutely nowhere else to walk in and buy them retail. Being able to tell a customer that I'll be back in 20 minutes with the part to fix their 30 year old $50,000 piece of equipment that the manufacturer doesn't support anymore and is costing them money while it's down: Priceless

farkeruk:tortilla burger: As far as I can tell, the Reality Distortion Field IS gone. The iPhone 5 is a huge disappointment for the hype - I don't think Steve would have approved. The iPhone 5 is simply more like Android - without the maps. I think each major iteration of iPhone before this had something new to offer that consumers really liked. This version just...doesn't.

We've also reached the point where there ain't much more to add to phones. That affects all phone makers. Over the past 5 years, the chips became small enough, fast enough, cheap enough, that things that weren't possible before like GPS, browsers and wifi become possible. But then what do you do? Faster processor? To what end? You're going to be zipping through javascript, but your TCP/IP stack is still going to be sitting there waiting for data to arrive. It's like owning a Ferrari for a daily commute - you won't get there any faster than a Toyota.

I would like a stylus with my smartphone so I can poke things on the screen more effectively than with a big dry/cold finger (hey, it's chilly in the mornings here!) I would also like to be able to scribble notes to myself without clunking in text or do mspaint-esque drawings for my rage comics and general amusement. I would like a place to store that stylus so it's always with my phone and I don't lose it.

But I know that's a pipe dream.

And having a digital keyboard projected onto a desk/table so I can type fast? That's just freaky Star Trek stuff man.