He actually was a closer for part of the '01 season, when they won the World Series over Rivera, before Kim end up taking over the role down the stretch.

Foulke You

02-23-2007, 10:07 AM

Hey, he's a Chicago Heights native!

maurice

02-23-2007, 12:13 PM

By my count, that gives the Sox at least 27 pitchers to distribute between MLB and AAA.

It's gonna be hard to get promoted past AA this year.

IndianWhiteSox

02-23-2007, 12:59 PM

Is this guy a flame thrower or a control pitcher?

WizardsofOzzie

02-23-2007, 01:20 PM

Is this guy a flame thrower or a control pitcher?
I found this tidbit from when the Angels had him in 05
Pitching:Pitch selection: 1) fastball (mid 90s), 2) slider. Sidearm delivery. 92-96 MPH fastball.

An effective and occasionally over-powering reliever when he keeps his pitches down in the zone, but is batting practice otherwise. Has struggled the past two seasons with a groin injury and mechanical difficulties. It is not known how closely the two are related.Outlook:The Angels are gambling that a) Prinz's problems are related to his groin tear in 2003, b) he's now fully healthy, and c) his mechanics can be fixed by pitching-guru Buddy Black. If it works out, Bill Stoneman will have salvaged another class reliever from the league's trash heap, because Prinz clearly has the stuff to set-up in the bigs. However, he's been shelled again this spring, and at this point he may be a lost cause. It's worth the gamble, but chances are Prinz is done. Projected line: 25 IP, 5.50 ERA

Hopefully our pitching staff is already good enough he'll never break into it. Those are horrible stats, and the upside doesn't sound great.

IndianWhiteSox

02-23-2007, 02:11 PM

Hopefully our pitching staff is already good enough he'll never break into it. Those are horrible stats, and the upside doesn't sound great.

I don't know, this may be another one of those great findings by KW that seems like a Coop project that gets fixed. I mean when people said the same thing about Thornton, I know that Coop had wanted him for years, but maybe he knows something that we don't from this pitcher's AZ days. I remember that the first day that Thornton was acquired, people said that the LH gas can has been replaced, when he turns out to be a stud set-up man who could be a lights out starter if he developed a curve and change. So let's wait and see on the Bret Prinz evaluation.

are his career numbers. And here (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=400092)

his player bio.

Righty junkballers with sidearm stuff can be effective in very spotty situations.

Not sure if he'll crack the White Sox pen.

I don't know about him being a so-called "junkballer", as he still has mid 90's gas. Finally one of these signings where I've actually heard of and seen the guy pitch. He used to bring it at 95-97 every day, with a mid-upper 80's true slider. From what I've read he now works around 92-94 with two fastballs and a mid-80's slider. Nice AAA arm.

balke

02-23-2007, 02:55 PM

If all these pitchers turn out to be studs, the Sox have great trade bait. The odds of that are extremely slim though. Its nice to think about Coop being a pitcher repair shop, but right now he's got a lot of projects on his list.

IndianWhiteSox

02-23-2007, 03:04 PM

If all these pitchers turn out to be studs, the Sox have great trade bait. The odds of that are extremely slim though. Its nice to think about Coop being a pitcher repair shop, but right now he's got a lot of projects on his list.

You're right in that having slim odds, but the fact is that if most of these pitchers have the same problem that is fixable by coop, then most of them will pan out.

Domeshot17

02-23-2007, 03:43 PM

You're right in that having slim odds, but the fact is that if most of these pitchers have the same problem that is fixable by coop, then most of them will pan out.

Thats a BIG statement. I think the hope is SOME OF THEM pan out. The reason we added so many of these "mechanics specials" and prospects is because about 1 in every 3 can't miss player makes it, the other 2 miss. If you can get 3 of your 8 future sp's (Floyd Danks Haeger Mculloch Broadway Gio Sisco and Massett) you are in a pretty good spot.

Coop's good, he can fix a guy's delivery and mentality, but he's not a miracle worker, some guys just dont have it. Prinz is a good emergency arm. Hopefully he has a good spring, ends up in triple A, as is insurance incase we need a reliever or too (We could bring back Jeff Nelson too)

IndianWhiteSox

02-23-2007, 03:50 PM

Thats a BIG statement. I think the hope is SOME OF THEM pan out. The reason we added so many of these "mechanics specials" and prospects is because about 1 in every 3 can't miss player makes it, the other 2 miss. If you can get 3 of your 8 future sp's (Floyd Danks Haeger Mculloch Broadway Gio Sisco and Massett) you are in a pretty good spot.

Coop's good, he can fix a guy's delivery and mentality, but he's not a miracle worker, some guys just dont have it. Prinz is a good emergency arm. Hopefully he has a good spring, ends up in triple A, as is insurance incase we need a reliever or too (We could bring back Jeff Nelson too)

That's why I said IF

Domeshot17

02-23-2007, 04:17 PM

That's why I said IF

Totally missed that IF, I guess we are both saying the same thing then haha, sorry. My fault