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The NHS works completely fine. Long waiting lists and lack sometimes of patient-centered care, also massive administrative costs... but it works, people get treated and rich people can pay for better insurance. It's not as good as in the rest of Europe. Cuba is a pretty silly country to pick, considering the sheer number of countries who have effective "government mandated" healthcare systems.

Maybe it won't work in the U.S., and forcing Americans to buy health insurance is probably a bad idea, but meanwhile we'll be sitting here in the U.K. not getting AIDS and not having third world health insurance

If insurance wasn't so expensive, then there would be less gripe about it, but as its stands medicine is a for-profit business, and just like any other company hospitals will raise the prices of their products which thus increases the price of insurance.

I mean, I can understand why congressmen getting handjobs from various insurance companies would vote against it, but what's with the middle class getting their knickers in a knot about it?

americas middle class is possibly the stupidest group of people in the entire world so theres that to take into account. also its not really that good, its not actual government/single payer/guaranteed healthcare so its still stupid.

dogar wait what are you talking about be like canada's britians etc. not even including the fact their system is empirically better than ours(better results for less money is a fact) the insurance mandate has nothing to do with it. it is not changing the system of healthcare delivery or administration it's just making people buy insurance.

"I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
"What else?" said the secretary.

I think a much more reasonable first step would be to cut down the ridiculous amounts of regulations on insurance companies that practically give the big companies a monopoly in their region of operation

most of the substantial medical advancements come from US universities. where most of the scientific advancements come from, not because of capitalism, but because US universities attract the best researchers in the world because US universities get enormous research funding from the federal government.

not to say private business has NO impact on medical advancement but a lot of it is in dumb consumer drugs like viagara

"I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
"What else?" said the secretary.

If I'm being perfectly honest I don't give two shits what the government spends its money on as long as its operating at a reasonable deficit and taxes are reasonable. Neither of which are true right now.

a flat tax is one of the worst ideas in the entire world. the government needs to be funded, if the rich were taxed at the same level as the most the poor could reasonably afford to be taxed then revenue would drop tremendously. also morally the rich SHOULD have more responsibility to pay into society than the poor.

"I'll go," said Chagataev. "But what will I do there? Build socialism?"
"What else?" said the secretary.