We started slowly, in the beginning it took us about 31 minutes to on board a beneficiary, to verify their details and so on, we now down to three minutes.

— Mark Barnes, SA Post Office CEO

Everyone has a better understanding of where the pay points are....

— Mark Barnes, SA Post Office CEO

Barnes says there are about 80 000 people who are in remote areas, who dont have access to a post office. Those will be catered for through cash in transit to pay points in those areas.

To be honest I don't see any cash payments in the next 18 months, I think it will all be technology. Cash doesn't leave in our pockets anymore it leaves in our devices - cash is expensive and dangerous.

— Mark Barnes, SA Post Office CEO

We are looking over time to have a cashless solution but right now not all beneficiaries have smart phones or even registered accounts...

— Mark Barnes, SA Post Office CEO

To hear the rest of the conversation on Sapo's readiness with Mark Barnes, listen below: