This is how it is, and it has been very advantageous for Hoke thus far. I don't want people to get the wrong impression because I respect and advocate our recruiting principles; I just want to see Hoke stand his ground at the same time because, if he does not; future, more costly predicaments could arise.

Maybe I'm just being cynical or semantical, and I do want Dawson (he is such an integral addition to our OL class), however; I think a recruit should understand, thoroughly, what entails their commitment to Michigan. I believe most do, and honestly hope Dawson is an exception, respectively, because in the future, I think Hoke should deny a recommitment.

It's really out of fairness. Cause in Turd's words, there technically really isn't a "policy".

I think a lot of it has to do with how "Being Committed" leads to "Taking other visits".

If a commit talks to the coaches about how they were his first offer, he jumped on it, didn't really do his research and wants to see what other schools have to offer (Conley), he'll fall in the "You're no longer committed, but thanks for handling this in an up front manner, we're no longer saving you a spot in this class, but we still want you at Michigan".

If a commit doesn't talk to the coaches and books a trip to another school, like Oregon (Pharoah Brown) without telling the coaches anything, the recruit has burned that bridge, he is no longer a commit and the coaches won't recruit him anymore.

With Dawson it seems like there was a little from column A, a little from B, and at the end the coaches are still recruting him.

I would love to know how this meeting with Hoke came about. Does David go to coach Wilcher and say I really want to talk to Michigan again can you arrange something with coach Hoke so I can tell him. Does David pick up the phone and call and tell them himself...or does Hoke just pop in and say we've heard you've had a change of heart and may want to come back into the fold. I hope someone on the inside let's us know how all this came about.

Boy, this is interesting. I also see now OSU has offered Lacy. I would love to have Dawson back because based on his camp tapes last summer he seemed like the most ready OL and seems very strong and tough. But, this whole back and forth has been odd to say the least. From the comments I have seen from Dawson it didn't seem like he was too happy with UM fans, not that I can blame him, but I guess it still surprises me that he still wants to come to UM. And, it makes you wonder about the whole no visit policy now. Wouldn't it be really weird if both Conley and Dawson came back?

Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.

This is great news. The Michigan football I know and love is built around interior offensive linemen named Dave. Daves Brandt, Baas, Pearson, Petruziello, Moosman, and Molk would be happy to hear this.

The only thing that surprises me is everyone's reaction. I don't understand what is so hard to understand about this recruiting policy. WTF I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

1 - the coaches offer you.

2 - you commit, they honor your commitment.

3 - you don't commit, coaches hold it until they're full.

4 - you commit and take visits and notify the coaches beforehand that you want to, a la Conley. Coaches understand but no longer consider you a recruit. Maybe they keep your offer and recruit you, maybe not.

5 - you commit and deceive the coaches about not taking visits a la Pharaoh Brown and David Dawson. You are no longer considered a recruit by the staff similar to step #4 and they likely pull an offer. The staff evaluates whether to offer you based on factors individual to your situation, and decides whether to continue to recruit and/or offer you. Pharaoh = Ohio kid without M ties and a number of other family factors we don't know about. Dawson = kid that dreamed of playing at M prior to getting an offer, accepted immediately, dad died, and a number of other family factors we don't know about.

Rinse and repeat step 1.

Everyone circle jerks each other about how much better of a fanbase we are than fanbase X but this simple concept seems to spawn increasingly ridiculous discussion everytime it's brought up.

Doesn't Hoke's no-visit policy simply mean that if a recruit commits, and then decides to take visits to other schools, then UM no longer considers him a commit and his spot is once again open to other offered recruits?

Dawson isn't considered a commit right now -- and I'm assuming another offered OL recruit could still commit and grab his former spot -- so I guess I'm unclear why this situation would be thought of as Hoke bending the rules of his policy.

Recruit videos but I watched some of Dawson's camp video. Dude is a seriously aggressive mauler. Was my favorite talent in the class. Would welcome him back in the fold.

Unrelated to his talent level, Kid is 17 and got brutalized on twitter when his initial recruitment went sideways. His decommit shenanigans was simply a kid acting like a kid. It shows me some growth, however, that he sat down with coach hoke and was able to rise above the primitive part of the fan base. Takes a man to do that. Like him blue or not.

...and just my uneducated opinion, I really think that we will get treadwell in the end. Ty Isaac made his choice, and we seem to be in a really great position with Derrick Green right now. I think that we could get McQuay too. I think we realistcly could end up with two of the three( Treadwell, Green, McQuay). We even could take them all. But realistically i think we'll end up with two.

If he was really serious about wanting to be "back in the UM family" he would have re-committed. He's still taking visits to Alabama, OSU, and MSU, and unless he's given a silent re-verbal to Hoke, I think this is smoke with no fire. On top of that, if Hunt or Lacey commit before that, there won't be room for Dawson unless there's attrition elsewhere.

I think the biggest competition is Sparty. He said Florida was out because of distance from his family, so I'd have to say Alabama wouldn't be a serious destination due to the same issue. I think he's a kid that's been through A LOT in a short period of time, and it has taken its toll on him. I think he and his family want to be back in the UM family, it just took a route none of us expected.

One thing I just thought of is that supposedly Hoke basically said "If you want to be at UM we have room for you." However, Dawson didn't re-commit. So, although we have room for him right now, what if any number of other guys commits and accepts their offer. Do you still have room for him then? After re-thinking this it kinda surprises me that he didn't re-commit if he wants to be here because the offer may not last long.

Strength equipment is expensive and guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free and can give you everything you want.

I would have to surmise we are in the driver's seat. If he doesn't commit by the 14th of december, though, there will not be a spot for him because I can see either lacy or hunt commiting on that day when they visit.