On September 7th, a Chinese fishing boat and a Japanese patrol boat collided in waters near the territorial disputed Diaoyutai Islands (between China and Japan). The captain of the Chinese fishing boat was arrested by Japanese government and could face up to three years in prison if found guilty. (See more pictures, videos and netizens’ comments on chinaSMACK)

The collision once again cracked the Sin-Japanese relations and also stirred up another round of Chinese national sentiment as well as the anti-Japanese sentiment in China. A news article “The grandmother of the fishing boat captain detained by Japan passed away because of the stress after hearing the news” was quickly reposted everywhere on the Chinese internet. The Protect Daioyutai Movement once again returns in mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan, even Chinese people around the world were called to gather the forces for protecting the Daioyutai Islands.

It is worth noting that, according to IZaobao, this grandmother felt down not long ago before the incident, her body was extremely weak and hence passed away after hearing the news. But the background information was never reported in news by the media.

(From IFeng) Chinese community organized (non-governmental organization) China Federation for Defending the Diaoyu Islands demonstrated in front of the Japanese Embassy in Beijing, protesting the collision incident between Japanese patrol boat and the Chinese fishing boat. The federation leaders said, Japan’s behavior is act of aggression, and demanded Japanese government to apologize to China.

Over 40 people protested on the streets, holding Chinese national flag and singing the Chinese national anthem.

In front of the Japanese embassy, protestors held the sign of “滚” (“get out”) and shouted “Diayutai islands belong to China! The East China Set belongs to China!”

The federation leader Li Wen said, “Our demands are simple, they are release (the detained finishing boat captain) immediately, and then Japan must pay for the damages. We only have these two demands.”

Li Wen also said, the protest letter which delivered to the Japanese ambassador was a picture, a picture of ancient Chinese bronze wall clock, which is a phonetic pun of “nail in the coffin” or “make funeral arrangements”. (Editor’s note: That is why never to give clock as a present to a Chinese person)

However, the Japanese Ambassador Koizumi already left the embassy before the protestors arrived.

When asked what the further actions are if Japan cannot meet the demands, federation leader said, the Japanese patrol boat’s action was not “provoking” but an act of “aggression” or invasion, It is possible that China’s Diaoyutai activists will land on the island.

Li Wen, “This is a invasion, it is murder, and in China’s territory”

Reporter, “Will you land on the island?”

Li Wen, “Of course, Diaoyutai Islands are ours, isn’t October 1st China’s National Day soon? We could organize one hundred fishing boats and fish there together.”

Half an hour later the demonstration ended without any direct contact with Japanese staff. China’s Diaoyutai activists believe that their strength is still weak after all, and hope the Chinese Foreign Ministry and Chinese military give stronger response.

It’s worth noting that the above post was almost certainly written by a Chinese person, since native English speakers rarely use the word “chink” (it’s anachronistic even more than it is rude) and I have never in my entire life heard a non-Chinese person refer to the whole “sick man of Asia” thing (which was a 19th century remark about the decadence and fragility of the Qing dynasty, although most young Chinese men seem to take it as an insult to their masculinity.)

“The sick man” is as far as I know a reference taken from the context of the decline and eventual fall of the Ottoman Empire before and during WW1. That said I see no reason why it couldn’t have been used for the Qing Dynasty as well even though I have never heard that before.

I know you guys have a troubled relationship with history but just because something appears in a movie doesn’t mean that it was invented by the Chinese. Similarly you guys scream and shout about the Japanese slaughter of Chinese people in Nanjing but you never even raise a brow to the fact that Mao had 200.000 of HIS OWN FOLLOWERS cleansed and killed from the ranks of the communist movement even before the civil war was over (and he later caused the death of 50 million Chinese, but that’s another story).

“Sick Man of Asia” was the way in which the Qing Dynasty was described during the 19th century, which is an entirely accurate description of what was never a very good political situation for China and the Chinese people in the first place.

The first use of the phrase “Sick Man of Asia” was indeed used to describe the Ottoman Empire, which was in similarly dire straights by the end of the 19th century. It has also been used to describe Japan during the stagnation of the 1990s.

The phrase has been used out of context as a perceived slight of Chinese masculinity, perhaps this has been due to the Bruce Lee film. I know it was likewise misused this way in the film “Fearless”, where in the actual story the man who taunted the Chinese fighter was Russian, not English, and was basically just seeking free publicity.

obviously this faggot has:
1. never owned a dictionary with the word “sarcasm” in it
2. never been to 4chan and heard about the net-famous meme “NORTH KOREA IS BEST KOREA”
3. never gotten above a D in English.

Alright dumbass. I am frankly a bit tired of hearing that crap no matter what your government has been training everyone to say. At the very least morons like you ought to admit that Taiwan is NOT a part of China but that China CLAIMS Taiwan as part of it’s territory. Taiwan currently is in every way that matters an independent country and less than 3 percent of the Taiwanese are in favor of reunification. Get your facts straight. This is NOT about who is right or wrong but about reality.

Poor little Guo Bao, patrolling outside of Chinasmack to new territory. I’ve been amusingly reading your poor excuse for comments for a while. None which are even worthy of a response, particularly since they weren’t directed at me.

But since, you are directing a comment at me this time, and since it’s such a stupid, cringeworthy comment, easily to criticise, I might afford you a response. At least until my new VAIO Z, recovery disks have finishe burning.

Hohoho, I’m going to have fun with this. What is the best way to start, hmm… let me think. Ok, I’ll use this structure National Treasure boy.

Legality and FACT:

1. Taiwan is legally part of China as part of international law and is supported by all major countries and international organisations. Including NGOs, IGOS, Sports Committees, the United Nations, IMF, to list a few off the top of my head.

WAIT WAIT.. This is where I put a disclaimer to prevent you coming up with what most idiots like to respond with. You know the “BLAH BLAH BLAH China is coercing Taiwan, bs, etc”.

What you are saying is what reality is, not whether it is ‘right or wrong’. Imma right? 😛

2. Your statitics that only 3% of Taiwanese are in favor of reunifaction are also incorrect. A quick youtube search came up with a statistic that only 54% are pro China independance – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ae5jo1JWAo. And this is from a youtube link posted by a pro-taiwan supporter. Last year, I checked on another site, and it said that less than majority supported independance. These are surveys with no reference to sample size or quality of sampling, so the actual result is quite arbitrary. For all you know, only a sample of 50 people may have been surveyed. But giving some credit to these surveys, we can ascertain that your estimate of 3% is obviously inaccurate and inconsistent with mainstream media surveys.

Furthermore, the site you got your stastic from was probably from the most bias source ever. First of all, the international issue has never been about reunification and only about independance. So I have no idea where you came up with the word ‘reunification’.

So stop distorting reality and start recognising the truth that none of the developed world embraces the fact that Taiwan is an independant country. Not even the country you immigrated to ‘dumbass’. So rather than caring about whether it is right or wrong that the ‘ROC’ is part of China, accept reality as what it is. I’ll start giving you some credit once Taiwan gets a seat in the UN. So stop making sorry excuses for the ROC and get your small ass brain back into Chinasmack where you belong, along with small tits Fauna.

One question for you douchebag. If Taiwan is a part of China why don’t you try to leave all your papers at home and try to catch a ferry? Let’s see how far that’ll get you. Hell,, I’ll meet you and have a good laugh in Fujian or at a Taiwanese port (depending whether the Chinese or the Taiwanese borderguards are the ones stopping you) when you are dragged away while shouting “But it’s Chinese! It’s Chinese!!. Let me get in!”.

Btw,, when a Chinese guy starts babbling about other people’s “bias” and distorted truths I really can’t help laughing. And my 3 percent wasn’t an estimate but from several polls asking the Taiwanese citizens. The number of people who support a complete reunification under Beijing rule is ALWAYS only between 2 and 5 percent. If you want to slant numbers you can go somewhere else buddy. Presumably somewhere to pick up your 5 mao.

One more thing. It’s rich when someone claims the high road and then finishes his rant with “,,get your small ass brain back into Chinasmack where you belong, along with small tits Fauna.” You are a fxcking joke.

Ok, reformatted, clean install of windows 7 done and now updating. Just in time to catch up on a bit of entertainment.

Let’s see how far that’ll get you. Hell,, I’ll meet you and have a good laugh in Fujian or at a Taiwanese port (depending whether the Chinese or the Taiwanese borderguards are the ones stopping you) when you are dragged away while shouting “But it’s Chinese! It’s Chinese!!. Let me get in!”.

Creating a strawman as usual… Trying to divert attention away from the stupidity of your original post. Imma stop here 😛

And my 3 percent wasn’t an estimate but from several polls asking the Taiwanese citizens.

Learn to read national treasure boy 😉 Surveys are based on sample size and quality. Don’t make me repeat myself. You waste my time and concurrently make yourself look stupid.

One more thing. It’s rich when someone claims the high road and then finishes his rant with “,,get your small ass brain back into Chinasmack where you belong, along with small tits Fauna.” You are a fxcking joke.

Rich? Hahahaha.. I guess you wanted to use the word ‘ironic’ but realised how it really isn’t. Fact is, Chinasmack is more suitable community for you racist plebs to ‘mentally faunicate’ with your imaginary intelligence and then vent your anger online. Get it, Faunicate 😉 Now don’t get too angry Guo Bao.. Although I must say, do come back, I always enjoy a good laugh.

This is a pointless issue meant to rile up nationalism. I’m overseas Chinese living in Canada, and here in Canada there are several island disputes as well. But if you ask an average Canadian, he won’t even know which islands those are. Why? Because it’s not a big deal and no one cares.

This isn’t really any different. Everyone claims it’s their territory, they’re being invaded, big outrage etc. They’re just some rocks in the ocean, not particularly abundant in fish or oil. Is that really worth ruining a relationship? Just keep it low profile like most countries do and eventually a diplomatic solution will be worked out.

The problem here is that those islands are right next to mainland China and Taiwan island and so if the japs/US decides to play it risky and station some missile base or airfield, then that would seriously compromise China’s national security, that’s why there’s such passionate argument over it. The Canadian island disputes probably aren’t a threat to their security. Just look at how the yanks reacted over the Cuban missile crisis, an island next to their border is abt to get nuclear missiles, they tried to invade it but before that there was loads of anti-Cuban anti-soviet protests. So why is it that Chinese aren’t supposed to protest when an unfriendly neighbouring state claims full control of an island near your border and who’s biggest ally supports a policy of containment of your country.

Relationships certainly shouldn’t be ruined for territorial disputes, but that’s a little optimistic isn’t it? The island is mildly strategic militarily and economically, being close to China and oil fields were found around it, so it’s not as if it’s void of importance.

Canada, ok, well I’ve being in Canada for a decade now, and Canada’s island dispute… haha, well part of the problem with Canada’s island dispute being unheard of is that there aren’t enough people to gather up the momentum. If you times the people protesting for Canadian sovereignty, with the numeric differences between Chinese and Canadian population, you’d still get a incredible number protesters worthy of a news report.

And just put the issue into perspective, both China and Japan are highly nationalistic countries, both governments uses such issues to gain popularities from growth of nationalistic sentiments. I dunno about the Japanese, but the Chinese, from a cultural perspective, have really strong feelings over what is “their lands”. This 乡土情结 traverse the underlying Chinese national psyche.

I seriously hope a diplomatic solution, but I’m being realistic, the only why China is ever going to get it back, or the only why Japan can claim legitimacy, is through a overwhelming dominance of the other.

Well that’s the point, if we know it’s nothing but nationalism and emotions, why keep doing it? People vent their rage and curse over the internet, then what? I doubt there will be a war or anything over this. The guy probably won’t be jailed for 3 years, I’m betting they’d let him go very soon. Everyone should just settle down, and once tensions ease we’ll settle it like adults.

With 1.5 billion people finding 40 guys with too much time on their hands is hardly difficult.

Foreigners, foreign governments, and foreign companies are an easy target and provide an outlet for peoples pent up anxiety and frustration.

China is a very stressful place to live, it’s crowded, it’s polluted, there are few legal guarantees and scam artists abound. Despite its growing economic importance most people have to work very hard and fight tooth and nail for everything. Recent droughts in southern China, Russia, and floods in Pakistan have combined to raise the price of food worldwide, which is particularly hard on China, where the average family spends 1/3 of household income on food. There are few outlets for stress – open criticism and protests against domestic policies and politicians are theoretically allowable but in practice can sometimes be quite risky, not just from government quarters but private individuals who seem to think its their patriotic duty to quell dissent.

Young Chinese men have it particularly hard – they were promised the world if they’d only study hard and listen to their elders, and they’re graduating into a world where it’s increasingly difficult to find a wife, find an apartment, and find a good-paying job.

This site seems to be attracting the nationalists recently. It’s rich how they rant and puff themselves up over a couple of small, barren islands but in other contexts refuse to acknowledge that China has ceased at least 10.000 times more land from neigboring areas/countries during just the last century. Also I think they should read the history of the Han’s from a different angle. The Han’s have been warmongers for thousands of years, attacking, extorting and suppressing every other nationality from the more than 3 digit number of countries that have existed in what today is China’s territory. The rambling excuses have been told so many times that almost every Chinese believes them and many foreign governments are on the fence as well (that combination and the urge to trade with China is why many foreign countries sullenly accept the situation). I especially like the “But they are all Chinese” rant that every Chinese has been programmed to say. Hell,, even Mongolians are actually Chinese in Chinese people’s eyes which is a convenient way to not admit that China was defeated by a surprisingly small amount of horsemen.

Get this: China is big. It’s too friggin big and there are too frigging many people to deal with. What the government has been realizing during the last 30-40 years is that there is already WAY too much to deal with without trying to take in more land. Yes once a year some high ranking government official will rant a bit about Taiwan but the Taiwan issue is FAR down on the list of pressing problems. It’s all for show and trying to bind the Chinese together in a common anger against foreigners. Bread and circusses, divide and conquer.

If you want to throw arguments like that around, then America, one of the major western powers that has a relatively clean track record with respect to colonialism and subjugation of foreign lands, looks a lot worse than China. By most measurements, the United States is a larger nation than China in terms of area. And where was the United States three hundred years ago? No where. Where was China two, three hundred years ago? About the same as today, except with vast chunks of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Taiwan under its control, never mind Tibet and Xinjiang.

Virtually all territory China has acquired in the past 2000 years is due to the incorporation of homeland territory of foreign invaders. in the 16 kingdoms, northern and southern dynasties, Yuan, and Qing periods etc etc, the Mongols, Manchus, and other “barbarian” kingdoms all brought vast amounts of their territory under China’s control when they subjugated Han Chinese and declared themselves emperor. If you look any “pure” Han Chinese dynasty such as Ming, Han, Jin, Song, or Tang, you’ll notice it seldom include areas outside of Han territories such as Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia, or Manchuria. If there is a historic reason why the Mongols, Manchus, Tibetans, and Uyghurs are under Chinese control, it would be because they are, or aligned themselves with invaders of China who were eventually sinicized.

Compare this with the United States, which acquired most of its territory under the ideology of manifest destiny and continentalism, which is the belief that the United States will spread across the entirety of the North American continent. This lead to the United States annexing territory through various wars with native Indians and Mexcio and grow from the original 13 colonies to the huge ass nation we have today in a short period of 200 years. This ideology continues this day, where the United States believe it is their duty to spread their belief system through out the world, which explains why a country half a world away would have such entrenched interests on the borders of completing major powers such as Russia and China. If there is a reason why the United States is so large and powerful today, it is because Americans believe their ideology is superior, and it is their duty to spread it forcefully or otherwise.

The United States is fucking big as well. Look no further than the excessive focus on terrorism today, or communism during the cold war to see examples of the same tactic of using external threats to pacify internal discord. Not to mention all the hundreds of other wars the Americans had been involved in constantly.

No major nation gets to where it is today without territorial expansion, so don’t just point fingers at Han Chinese.

I didn’t think this was about the US but there you go. Major nations and empires tend to break down in the long run. Even Russia didn’t have control of the lands east of the Urals until about 150 years ago and thus were a lot smaller than it is today. I am not sure where you are going with the “look at the US,,, pacify internal discord” since I am very much against this kind of behavior no matter where and under which circumstances it takes place.

“If there is a reason why the United States is so large and powerful today, it is because Americans believe their ideology is superior, and it is their duty to spread it forcefully or otherwise.” Sorry buddy but that goes for basically every empire of the past and present, and I doubt it has much effect in the long run.

“in the 16 kingdoms, northern and southern dynasties, Yuan, and Qing periods etc etc, the Mongols, Manchus, and other “barbarian” kingdoms all brought vast amounts of their territory under China’s control when they subjugated Han Chinese and declared themselves emperor. ”

This argument makes zero sense, but all Chinese seem to think that’s how it works when it comes to China being controlled by other countries in history.

American success is due to numerous factors – immigration, geographic remoteness (Pre 1950s), natural resources, a small and fractious indigenous population, the English language, a short (some would say nonexistent) history that shifts focus to the present, a culture formed almost entirely during the Industrial and post-Industrial age, and yes, a strong national ideology inherited from Britain and France (its hardly “American”)…

Moral or aesthetic notions aside, the combination of these factors had let to a great deal of success.

China and the PRC governments main source of strength is its population, which is large, frugal and industrious. Protecting this resource and its mental and physical health should be top priority.

you are punctual, i’ll give you that. But due to the inflation these days, I demand 10 mao.

Need to get myself some Xiao Long Bao after I finish installing all this software. Getting hungry..

Ah damn, I just remembered they closed that one down across the street, might have to go with italian food instead. Pesce Spada Alla Griglia looks nice or Coniglio In Salmi? Have you eaten yet? Hahahaha..

Hohoho… playing on semantics noob? So you’re an American Chinese with parents who immigrated from Hong Kong, China. So on a technicality your passport nationality is American. I’ve seen your previous posts where you’ve used the word Hong Kongnese. Probably think its a country too.

The truth is China is the new kid on the block smarting from a century of humiliation from the last centuries great powers including Japan. The small brain jingoistic types in China will not be satisfied until they show off their new found muscle by humiliating militarily another country (they prefer it be European or Japan) over some meaningless issue like a pile of rocks covered by seagull dung in the South China Sea etc.

This is really all about China’s political immaturity, and the need to inflate small issues into noble nationalistic causes, anyone remember World War One? Who gives a rats ass about the Serbs? How many millions died because the Hapsburg Empire wanted to punish the Serbs? As long as the gangster communist party feels threatened and insecure about its hold on the Chinese people we will see their government manipulate such issues for their domestic political gain.

Interesting how Chinese government wants to inject race and ethnicity into this tempest in a tea pot by calling on all overseas ethnic Chinese to protest over this issue. No doubt hoping to pull strings and create this image of ethnic Chinese rioting in Paris and Vancouver over a fishing boat captain ha ha…. The idea that a bunch of communist gangsters in Beijing can control and manipulate the Chinese diaspora should be an insult to most people of Chinese origin.

Yes, it’s hard to force oneself to compose a respectful reply when the opposition is intellectually handicapped and writes a load of bs fueled solely by personal bias accompanied by a handful of words which he perceives to be linguistic jargon

I forced myself to read some of your, shall we call it banter, with Korean Guy about who is the best looking male pop star singer? until I got physically ill, since it was so trite, and shallow and off the blog topic of “Liberation Army Daily” not to mention homo erotic….imagine going from Liberation Army Daily and Geo politics to you and Korean Guy discussing who is the cutest guy singer…not to mention your non stop racial theory rant about Korean phenotypes. Personal bias does not even begin to describe your shallow, vapid, bigoted mind. Snide is too far off the mark, you really come across as a sneering queen.

You dare to judge others after your “gook” laced rants and panty boy diatribes about male pop culture singers. Your own words reflect your intellect, and character. Your can not retract them, and they make a mockery of any pretense you now have about intellect, or any other quality or virtue.

In fact, if you want to learn about how to hide stupidity with large words, you should take a lesson or so from Kai Pan, and try and drown these posts with incessant and unnecessary strawmen arguments and logical fallacies, you aren’t cutting it anywhere.

I hope you are no longer ill Mark, I’d hate for you to get hospitalized for reading my racist rants. Although, it’s only with your crude attempt to sound smart that you were able to state something which is otherwise ridiculously inaccurate. Let’s summarize your grossly incorrect statements you tried to hide with a barrage of unnecessary words:

1. I like to discuss with Gook_guy who is the best pop singer

– No, I just mentioned how gooks are slant eyed, kimchibreathed, short, single eyelided hypocrites. And how their favorite celebrity is a laughing stock world wide.

2. I like to insult gooks

– see above

3. This makes a mockery of my intellect, and quality or virtues

– no it doesn’t as this ‘rant’ as you put it is nothing more than expressing a fairly fair view of the voice of china and what we think of gooks. I also find it mildly entertaining.

Yes, because ‘snide’ is a term used is a colloquial term used in every day sentences, along with homo erotic and vapid as well as ‘sneering queen’. Are you trying to write a novel or get a message across? You fail at both 😛

You asked “Are you really unable to distinguish between mockery and stupidity? ” We both agree that “snide” is not an esoteric word, although I would not call it colloquial, rather standard formal English word. From Dictionary.com definition of snide.

Since “snide” is another word for “mockery” it seems you are not able to interpret or understand standard English. Since you are not capable of understanding written English it is no wonder that you see “straw men” in every argument.

Believe it or not Mark, the way you choose to structure your responses reveals your insecurity.

The fact that you fail to hide your insecurity by failing to understand the inadequacy of your arrangement of words shows your stupidity.

It’s not hard to fault your responses and its even easier to assess your emotional and intellectual incapacity.

In two minutes, let me point out anyone in a glance, can see how poorly set out your response is.

1.) You failed to pick up the sarcasm that ‘snide’ and ‘sneering queen’ is not a colloquial term.

2.) The word ‘esoteric’ is irrelevant since you didn’t get the sarcasm; stop plucking words that you don’t know how to use. It makes you look stupid.

3.) DIctionary.com isn’t really your best reference; neither is wikipedia by the way – in case these are your main authorities for any argument.

4.) Try and understand what a strawman argument is before trying to use it here.

5.) Saying that I’m ‘not capable of understanding written English’ is not only incorrect but also a fairly ineffective way of mocking me.

6.) Remember to read before you reply – just like you need to remember to read the essay question before attempting to answer.

Now, as much as I’d like to award you a pass for using your imagination, effort and persistance, I’m afraid I have to give you a F here. Main problems? Did not read the sarcasm, failed to use correct authority, failed to project message across, and plagiarism.

Mark, my guess is you’re a secondary high school student in your first year with a huge chip on your shoulder. Imma right?

China needs a good chance to beat Japan in the east China sea. I would like to say this chance may be the time when the US is attacking some other country. Another premise is Chinese president happens to be a new one when the US is in war because Chinese government officials never want to make any big trouble before they leave their positions.

So…Unfortunately, I have to say that China won’t beat Japan at least one year from now. First reason, the current leaders will be replaced with the new elected soon. Second reason, the US still needs time to go out of the shadow of the economic crisis, and a sick tiger cannot attack a wolf. These two situations determines that there will not be any big effective reactions from Chinese government.

Japanese is a group of smart people in this world. So I bet they realize today is a good chance to bite China once without any danger.

You asked “Are you really unable to distinguish between mockery and stupidity? ” We both agree that “snide” is not an esoteric word, although I would not call it colloquial, rather standard formal English word. From Dictionary.com definition of snide.

Since “snide” is another word for “mockery” it seems you are not able to interpret or understand standard English. Since you are not capable of understanding written English it is no wonder that you see “straw men” in every argument.