If one has already paid for the movies at retail that toshiba now sends you as substittutes (rememm=ber about 3month turn time was about normal), didn't buy any of the movies on rebate form, and then toshiba sends you 5 movies you all ready have did you really get anything of value for buying player, (especially now that the most commonly sent out sub have a value of 3dollars on ebay. amazon marketplace? just how valuable is your 2nd copy of Bourne Identity??