We now have by default mdm instead of gdm3 and yahoo as a default research engine with Firefox. We now can open Synaptic directly (without password - but with an explanation -). There is also an open with Mono runtime which takes the place of Wine but probably cannot replace it. Some comments?

if you have the RC installed and fully updated you are in the same situation as the final isos just released except for 2 things:

- yours sources.list are pointing at incoming (latest in the final): it's up to you to change that or not, incoming and latest are the same for the most part of the time but the Update-Packs come first to incoming to be tested before going to latest (so if you stay with incoming you get the updates first- a week or so- but they are not tested yet >> that's what incoming is for)

Hmm I think there's more to it. For example synaptic still asks me for my password, I thought the RC would be fully upgraded to final, not just partially..I already have mdm on my laptop but I installed the RC on my desktop too... how does someone on pack 3 update to pack 4 final? I thought it would be ala Ubuntu (dist-upgrade), I'm new to LMDE and Linux OS's so..

roger64 wrote:We now can open Synaptic directly (without password - but with an explanation -).

And I asked about pack3 because I wanted to know if it could be fully upgraded to 4 dist-upgrade style (like you can on Ubuntu).

I see more people around here asking if/how they can update from rc to pack4 final and I just want to know how the update process goes. I'm indeed a bit confused I admit .

EDIT: Installed 201204 final on my desktop and mdm is indeed the only noticeable difference so far and gdm3 was removed. I can't tell any other difference so far.

coming back to this, just because - that behavior in synaptic (afaik) you always had: if you start it, it will ask you for the pw and store it for some time (in the good old gnome2 times there was a key in the panel showing that you were running with adm "powers")

- the confusion about UP3/UP4/RC/final boils down to to a misunderstanding of what is lmde and what are UP:

lmde is a rolling release (well, kinda off, but that part is not relevant here ) so there's no next release, we are always in release 1 (just issue lsb_release -a and you'll see)

UP are nothing more than a big update (sometimes, like with UP4 they have radical changes >> gnome2 to gnome3 but all the other 3 were quiet normal

because lmde is a sort of rolling release once in a while is necessary to update the installation media (otherwise the newcomers would be faced right after install with a huge amount of updates) that's what was done in dec/2010/jan2011 apr/2011 sep/2011 and now apr/2012

these new isos bring sometimes new features and are very handy for new installs but in some way all those features are made available to the existent systems and there's no reason to reinstall