Steiner

so cade, it really is tough for you to think clearly.Dont take the money, lose everything. set the place back for a hundred years and say to yourself ,success ! no wonders the libs and their unions sunk detroit. It was another civil war to them, complete with riots. Libs love riots.it must be a civil war thing. cade, you absolutly cannot think. its what liberals do, like cronig, issue eruptions , beat up on your opposition and think to myself. how smart i am !

Steiner

i guess liberals are greedy people. When the gun owners fight to keep a gun, they are called nuts by the left. if i had the choice, in the 1860's i would have taken the money and run. even gone with the wind showed the south had no industry, no brains, nothing in which to fight a war. they had good old fashioned southern honor ! Unfortunately, it proved inadequate. It gave the north a great chance to whip those stupid democrats into shape. It must have been fun on shermans hairpins. I would have said, how ya doing democrat ? Hows that plantation doing ? znd then burn it. ya see cade, the religious right that which you hate was instrumental in abolishing slavery. people like you love slavery . You have it in the public schools.

Steiner

cade, so the south would not give up their values ? wow, the south was democratic and these same values translated into a hatred of the right and religion. how could you be against buying out the slaves when the toll of the war was so great ? It made for the first military industrial complex in america and made the widespread availabilty of great guns possible in amercia. all thanks to the dumbacratic party. they are stil at it. they sunk detroit and many major inner cities. if a buyout worked in britain, we can say that those slave owners were not as rabid as the liberals here. the party you love cade and show in every post how rabid you are.once again, you sunk yourself. you did not grasp that did you ? thats a liberal !the worst death toll in history and you supported the civil war ! hows that for stupidity cade. you showed it again.

CadeFoster

Lets put it in your terms Steiner.. Would you give up all your patents, income and all your notes right now, completely walk away for $20,000 ? That is the value of a slave from 1861 in todays money. That is what the slave owners would be forced to do on their own. Not only did they buy the slaves but now you ask the owners to give each $800 to walk away. Well call me names some more, i am us to your remarks, dont mean nothing to me.

CadeFoster

In todays money that 80 billion dollars. do you really see any war stopped because they got brought out. actual figures stiener, not guesses. Why dont you call al-qaeda and see if they will give up their values for money. Thats what the civil war was about, the south did not want to give up their values of the day. So call up the milatants and offer to buy their values away from them. Good luck --

Steiner

over and over cade is stupid. War is better than a peaceful solution he says. ya missed all the water cannon, all the jim crow that you libs did after the civil war. cade, why are you so dumb ? 20 trillion is a far cry from the billions in the civil war times.plus the large loss of life and it took 100 years for the south to recover. succes says cade.

CadeFoster

steienr said "the great society wasted 20 trillion bucks , but the libs want more." Well Stiener didnt you want the buy out of the slaves for 3.2 billion dollars in 1860, good thing they didnt, you would complain about that to.

Steiner

the jihadists even shelled buddha carvings in afghanistan. Why is that ? because they knew or their spiritual advisors knew that buddhism is very cleverly disgiused in the new testament.buddhism and zoroasterism were blended together to make christianity. The muslim s dont see christ as a god, just a prophet. they hate the west and christianity ! just like a liberal does tody cronig. The europeans were terrified of another attack like in the middle ages. you gotta do better cronig than just posting denials without some examples. that aint science but it sure is liberalism. Like you did not build that you say ! well , who did then ? a govt employee ?

Steiner

hey cronig, the jihadists even called bush another alexander the great. Alexander the great is not like in those parts. He was a student of aristotle the west. the western civilization the liberals just hate like you do. They had all the greek wisdom works. ALL of it slipped from them to europe thanks to the crusades. But the muslims attacked first and bought all the trouble on themselves. This is well known to all but the liberal posters here. it was known to the brits. thats why they wanted israel made. To be a trigger or a stop gap for the jihadists which almost sunk europe. they knew jihadism would rise again. You cronig are the only one, along with the other stupid liberals that does not know this.the brits made iraq and rearranged the mideast, not the US.Look it up.

Steiner

cronig, it is YOU are the poster of resentment. please give an example of mr westlunds resentment. I do not see it. You on the other hand call posters crackers and assorted other names.it is our enemies who resent us . Yes, our enemies. And that would include the jihadists. Al you got to do is read what they say . They RESENT the passing of the civilization standard to the west from the east. they call us the great satan like you call us names. They had it all in the court of haroun al rashid. This is not just steiner talk but from books, other papers and TV specials. they had the wisdom of all the west and what that meant. It all slipped thru their fingers and landed up in europe and then america. thats why they hate us. Cronig, you are the biggest poster of rhetoric, name calling here . cade is 2nd. please, you have not posted that list of govt projects. and that resentment Mr Westlund allegedly has.

Dcronlg

I noticed this author, while trying to wax moral and philosophical about revenge and injustice -- being nothing but his usual didactic self all the while -- failed to even touch the notion of "resentment", which drives the underlying emotive of his political philosophy and party.

He preaches "moving on", but his words, beliefs, politics and practices are stuck in yesterday.

Steiner

Hew rich, i bet cronig thinks all the radio and tv activity in the early 50s was the result of liberal largess. the govt invented it, not tesla or farnsworth. i bet you did not know that did you mr westlund. It was a govt sponsored program for those things. an idealistic society ? the libs never forget hat one and have been trying to establish one for over a century. the great society wasted 20 trillion bucks , but the libs want more. so they invented the ACA. the progressives have been trying for an utopia for a long time. But mostly we got wars, starvation , cold and a host of other liberal socialist goodies. Dont believe me ? Ask any one who lived in europe in the 20th century.my slavic immigrants would not go back to europe as they did not want to return to the land of want and war . those socialists, smart arent they?

Steiner

more for the simple minded posters here. after the end of WW2, the the russians raped at least 500,000 german gals. of course, the german leadership protested at this and they were told by the russians , boys will be boys. In the balkan wars, a similar thing happened. there were thousands of rapes. So judeye, please tell us how a gal should react to this. gush and say i forgive you ?and follow with, i can control how i react to such things? Revenge is deeply rooted in our minds. many people feel good after a act of revenge.it just cannot be stopped. even the democrats after the civil war took vengeance for their loss. Acts of violence against repubs and blacks which persisted for over a century. the libs are proud of that. they were just trying to help.

Steiner

I marvel at the simple minded approach of judeye to this article. we have the power to control how we react. well,not if we are dead or seriously injured from someones act of revenge. It does not matter if you do not seek revenge. If someone else does and you are the target, one must take necessary action. Westlunds assumption that if we alll just abandon revenge thoughts wont work for this reason. If by recent balkan wars Rich means the war in herzegovinia in 1990s, then that started with decisions made by the west after the end of WW1.yes, i said WW1. The attack on the world trade center towers, another act of revenge dates to this time period as osama said he wanted the glory days of the ottoman empire back. Well I dont think thats going to happen. I have even heard of the return of the glory days of Haron al raschid by the jihadists as motive.revenge is all our enemies think. to ignore this is stupidity.

judeye

Rabbi Kushner in his book "Why Bad things happen to Good People" starts out..Life is NOT fair. Bad things do happen to good people...and good things happen to bad people.

We might not be able to control what happens to us, what outside influences might have, but we do have the power to control how we react. Our attitudes and how we react and adjust to the different factors makes all the difference.

do you see the glass half full or half empty. It really is all up to you.