Originally posted by Starchildren
Thank God I grew up in a time where I can remember stores being closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas. And people did not fight and go crazy over
material things. This really scares the hell out of me.

And what scares me the most are the parents who bring their children a long to learn and participate in this insanity.

I've stayed home on black friday for about nine years now. Internet shopping is really the way to go.

Me and my wife stay home as well. And my 19 year old daughter was lamenting to me how materialistic Chistmas has become. She goes to a *real*
Christain collage that requires serving. She's also gone on some short term mission trips since she was in the 7th grade and has seen just a little
too much of those who go without, both here and in other countries. She also for several years got up at 4:00AM every Monday to serve breakfast to the
homeless. She's so digusted withwhat Christmas has become to most people. I'm so grateful that she, at 19 ( and really at 15) could see through all
the crap to what really matters.

Yep. Every day here we hear stories of people (usually 20s somethings) who get into fights at the bar, someone pulls a gun or knife. Usually ends up
with someone in the hospital. Lots of crime happening now. I'll venture out more in the summer time, hiking, or mountains. But once winter hits,
and it's dark at 5 PM, I'm indoors for the night. Suits me just fine too.

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