i think so too...given that the Merc will use a newish engine which if i'm not mistaken it's supposed to bring them somewhere around 2 tenths of a second gain compared to it's predecessor, and if Ferrari are opting NOT to use the #4 engine for this race due to possible reliability concerns OR due to it ONLY being allowed to consume 0.9l of oil, then i guess mercedes will easily lock the front row, unless they mess up their set up for quali

race day is another story as anything can happen...so all in all we're going to wait and see how Ferrari will aproach this weekend.

reading that article does NOT give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the NEW spec engine #4; they seem to have run it in the HAAS cars but from reading this article it seems that there may be some reliabilty concerns and that Ferrari may NOT run it in Monza...

oh, as as far as "steel" pistons being in the updated engine, well i guess this article also states taht ther is NO such thing for this engine....so that's a downer also...

dont' know how credible this source is, but let's hope for the best from Ferrari

Originally Posted by zike

Yeah I had the same feeling....... And with an old engine our chances of winning the home race are smaller and smaller

Originally Posted by zike

In Quali I think they are slim

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

i think so too...given that the Merc will use a newish engine which if i'm not mistaken it's supposed to bring them somewhere around 2 tenths of a second gain compared to it's predecessor, and if Ferrari are opting NOT to use the #4 engine for this race due to possible reliability concerns OR due to it ONLY being allowed to consume 0.9l of oil, then i guess mercedes will easily lock the front row, unless they mess up their set up for quali

race day is another story as anything can happen...so all in all we're going to wait and see how Ferrari will aproach this weekend.

Forza FERRARI.

Guys this is our home race don't u think our engineers would have been gunning for this race..? After all this is the only season which has been a lot better than the others recently.. so I personally think we'd be throwing everything for this race.. so let's be optimistic until the official statement of the upgrade arrives..!!!

as of now folks dont worrie to much as of now rain friday and saturday nice on race day.that should level the playing field for quali

that's what i heard they said rain for friday adn saturday.....so let's hope with a wet track Seb will put it on POLE adn come sunday when weather will be sunny and dry he'll disappear into the distance....hey, that's all we can wish for right???

Monza will be all about pole position. If we can get out front then we can get the win. I think we were the faster car in Spa. Vettle caught up to Hamilton quite easily after the first round of stops.. it was just all about track position.

I'm still fascinated by Ferrari's rumoured use of steel pistons, which is virtually unheard of anywhere. The 3d component comes in by fabricating an intricately shaped heat sink that's fixed to the underside of the piston crown. The use of steel means the engine will withstand higher stresses, detonation, etc brought on the 16:1 + compression ratio. However, they've been able to trim the weight of the piston by the use of a thinner piston crown due to the heat-sink to keep heat under control. Overall, the steel piston is slightly heavier than an forged alloy piston, but it appears that the reliability gained by the steel piston improves dramatically under the extreme loadings it will now be up against. AS I've said in the past, I'm not expecting outright HP gains, but rather greater fuel efficiency and perhaps greater lower RPM driveability. Not sure if this engine will be used at the next upgrade in Monza.

Monza will be all about pole position. If we can get out front then we can get the win. I think we were the faster car in Spa. Vettle caught up to Hamilton quite easily after the first round of stops.. it was just all about track position.

i would really like if we win Monza, i cant stand watching Louse on the top spot in our home race

I agree that it was pretty close and closer than expected but i feel like Merc still had the edge. You really believe Lewis when he says we had the faster car? Even if we are better in race pace, we really need to improve in qualy.

Really ? VET was in dirty air all the race, ALL
Not faster on qualy but fast on the race, that's what VET said.

Go Ferrari go!
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again, you're NOT getting my point..............being faster (as Seb said) means you should be able to pass the "slower" car, yet he wasn't....

even after the safety car restart when Seb was on much softer tires (ultra soft) and hamilston was on Soft tires, down the straight after Eau rouge they were both going the same speed when Seb pulled out of the slipstream....so he wsa NOT faster, otherwise he woudl have pass Luise

Faster car can't pass slower car....yeah that never happens...welcome to F1 in 2017 LOL why act like it can't happen when it happens every race? Look at Hungary when the a slow Seb was under no threat due to the dirty air...

Faster car can't pass slower car....yeah that never happens...welcome to F1 in 2017 LOL why act like it can't happen when it happens every race? Look at Hungary when the a slow Seb was under no threat due to the dirty air...

Another race where Merc is supposed to shine. Not sure if Seb and Kimi can challenge for the win in dry conditions. After this its Singapore I believe, which is Seb country so 2nd for Seb in Monza will not be a disaster by any means

Another race where Merc is supposed to shine. Not sure if Seb and Kimi can challenge for the win in dry conditions. After this its Singapore I believe, which is Seb country so 2nd for Seb in Monza will not be a disaster by any means

I was thinking this too. If we can get a 2-3 and a 1-2 in Singapore, I will be very happy.