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Misbah is better then every Indian batsmen bar Kohli, Pujara. Younis Khan is better then Sharma in Tests and everyone below him. Ahmad Shehzad is better then Dhawan.

Get over this delusion that you got greater batsmen then Pakistan. Pakistan is now starting to become a decent batting side.

I said 'find' , which means young and upcoming batsmen. Misbah and Younis are established batsman and without a doubt much better than Sharma ji. After the retirement of Misbah and Younis , not even god knows what would happen to Pakistani batting . Shehzad celebrates a century against Bangladeshi trundlers as if it was against a bowling line up of Ambrose , Donald , Lillee and Waqar.

I said 'find' , which means young and upcoming batsmen. Misbah and Younis are established batsman and without a doubt much better than Sharma ji. After the retirement of Misbah and Younis , not even god knows what would happen to Pakistani batting . Shehzad celebrates a century against Bangladeshi trundlers as if it was against a bowling line up of Ambrose , Donald , Lillee and Waqar.

Your whole nation celebrated the hundredth 100 by Sachin against Bangladesh so I would not be complaining.

I said 'find' , which means young and upcoming batsmen. Misbah and Younis are established batsman and without a doubt much better than Sharma ji. After the retirement of Misbah and Younis , not even god knows what would happen to Pakistani batting . Shehzad celebrates a century against Bangladeshi trundlers as if it was against a bowling line up of Ambrose , Donald , Lillee and Waqar.

have you seen that celebration???
well zohaib shah is true that whole india celebrated madly that century & you are alleging young man for celebrates who didnt even raised his bat ag the same team.

plz check some archives threads bcz there was a thread with the name of shezads celebrations started by somebody

I dragged Sachin in because you accused Ahmad Shehzad of celebrating a century against Bangladesh. Where as your whole nation celebrated a Sachin century against Bangladesh. So I don't see how I lost this argument by bring Sachin in? These are facts you yourself cannot deny.

I said 'find' , which means young and upcoming batsmen. Misbah and Younis are established batsman and without a doubt much better than Sharma ji. After the retirement of Misbah and Younis , not even god knows what would happen to Pakistani batting . Shehzad celebrates a century against Bangladeshi trundlers as if it was against a bowling line up of Ambrose , Donald , Lillee and Waqar.

Umar Akmal aevrages 38-39, which is just under 40. Shehzad's average is on the lower side because he had a poor start to his career. The way he's going, though, I can see him touching 40 at least. Jamshed averaged way more than 40, but that went down due to a dip in form. He can still get to 40.

The fact that you think averaging 40 is 'nothing special at ALL' shows how much you know about cricket.

Umar Akmal aevrages 38-39, which is just under 40. Shehzad's average is on the lower side because he had a poor start to his career. The way he's going, though, I can see him touching 40 at least. Jamshed averaged way more than 40, but that went down due to a dip in form. He can still get to 40.

The fact that you think averaging 40 is 'nothing special at ALL' shows how much you know about cricket.

Stick to the sport the guy in your avatar plays.

38 at 6

Dhoni averages 55 at 5-6 and has his average scrutinized, what of Sir Akmal jr?

It's ignorant to think people are jealous of Pakistan because you have Akmal, Nasir and Shehzad.

Nothing? Averaging 38 at #6 for a #4 batsman is definitely something.

Well, that's exactly what happened above - an Indian poster was taking a cheap shot at Shehzad above by saying that he celebrated a ton vs Bangladesh. India don't have consistent openers at the moment, while we do in the form of Shehzad. Hence, the jealousy.

Well, that's exactly what happened above - an Indian poster was taking a cheap shot at Shehzad above by saying that he celebrated a ton vs Bangladesh. India don't have consistent openers at the moment, while we do in the form of Shehzad. Hence, the jealousy.

Shehzad is potentially a 35 averaging player at a strike rate of 75, Jamshed 40 at 80 and Umar 45 at 85-90.

This is their upper limit which means they will end up lower because very few players maximize their potential. Jamshed is the best batsman in Pakistan after U.Akmal and I'd put Maqsood at 3. Haris and Amin are as good but they are not proven yet. Speaking of the younger players, Younis and Misbah don't count.

Shehzad is potentially a 35 averaging player at a strike rate of 75, Jamshed 40 at 80 and Umar 45 at 85-90.

This is their upper limit which means they will end up lower because very few players maximize their potential. Jamshed is the best batsman in Pakistan after U.Akmal and I'd put Maqsood at 3. Haris and Amin are as good but they are not proven yet. Speaking of the younger players, Younis and Misbah don't count.

Agreed, Umar's attitude problems will keep him in the high 30s to low 40s.

Well, that's exactly what happened above - an Indian poster was taking a cheap shot at Shehzad above by saying that he celebrated a ton vs Bangladesh. India don't have consistent openers at the moment, while we do in the form of Shehzad. Hence, the jealousy.

Delusions? Not many people in the world would cal Pakistani openers better than Indian openers.

Shehzad is potentially a 35 averaging player at a strike rate of 75, Jamshed 40 at 80 and Umar 45 at 85-90.

This is their upper limit which means they will end up lower because very few players maximize their potential. Jamshed is the best batsman in Pakistan after U.Akmal and I'd put Maqsood at 3. Haris and Amin are as good but they are not proven yet. Speaking of the younger players, Younis and Misbah don't count.

Shehzad is almost averaging 35 despite failing in quite a few of his early games??

and I think Shehzad has much more potential compared to Jamshed, things like Conversion of 50s to 100s, performing away from home confirm that...

If shehzad ends up averaging 35 in ODIs and 40 in Tests, he would stand among all time great Pakistani openers

Yes indeed. As leatherface mentioned, if he was a Pak guy, all hell would have broken loose.

Truly impressive innings he played in Tests.

But still a long way to go.

By the way, Indians jealous of Ahmed Shehzad made a chuckle. Some fans genuinely think that.

I am a big fan of shehzad and hope that he will perform well, he has the potential, he doesnt necessarily have to be better than Kohli or Rahane to be good for Pakistan...

I would be more than happy if he averages 35-37 in ODIs with 80 S/R and averages 40+ in tests, I seriously beleive he has potential to acheive these averages or even better if he keeps working hard on his game

I am a big fan of shehzad and hope that he will perform well, he has the potential, he doesnt necessarily have to be better than Kohli or Rahane to be good for Pakistan...

I would be more than happy if he averages 35-37 in ODIs with 80 S/R and averages 40+ in tests, I seriously beleive he has potential to acheive these averages or even better if he keeps working hard on his game

Very sane post! In fact, this applies to all cricketers.. Why do they need to be better than contemporaries always?!

I am a big fan of shehzad and hope that he will perform well, he has the potential, he doesnt necessarily have to be better than Kohli or Rahane to be good for Pakistan...

I would be more than happy if he averages 35-37 in ODIs with 80 S/R and averages 40+ in tests, I seriously beleive he has potential to acheive these averages or even better if he keeps working hard on his game

Absolutely. Never said Shehzad was bad at all. Who knows maybe Shehzad can achieve a lot more too.

Delusions? Not many people in the world would cal Pakistani openers better than Indian openers.

Why is that so? Who do you have? Do you have any opener more consistent than Shehzad? You Indians are the only ones that wouldn't call Pakistani openers better than Indian openers. And what's ironic is that you think I'm deluded. You Indians need to get over the delusions that Indians openers/batsman are way better than those of Pakistan's.

He is India's best player overseas...I kept saying this and I will stand by this. Pujara throws his wicket away quite often after getting a start to my liking. Kohli has been too lose here too and in NZ. His shot to get out when India were cruising chasing 400 was one of the worst I have seen in recent times especially when you know that you have a very inexperienced middle order.

I don't know why people don't rate him. Guy scored 96 against Steyn, Philly and Morkel in South Africa. Then scored a ton in NZ when team needed it. Now scoring a half century on a proper green top. Let Shehzad bat on this kind of pitch. Then it will be a more apt comparison.

2 possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are terrifying.

OK, he has batted well so far for his 50, but how does it prove he's better than Shehzad? He seems to have a good defense though.

Shehzad has played ONLY 3 tests so far that too in UAE, and has scored Tons there. With his good ODI record in hostile conditions of SA against best bowling attack, he has scored tons.

Nothing suggests he won't perform the same when he plays more Tests. So far, nothing can be 100% said about both Rahane and Shehzad when it comes to Tests as they haven't played much.

Rahane so far has played in 3 countries and has performed in all 3. Yeah he might have the odd poor series here and there but overall he has shown that he has the technique and temperament to survive and fight in tough conditions. His runs have all been in tough situations when the team has required him to score.

Rahane so far has played in 3 countries and has performed in all 3. Yeah he might have the odd poor series here and there but overall he has shown that he has the technique and temperament to survive and fight in tough conditions. His runs have all been in tough situations when the team has required him to score.

He has better technique, a better timer of the ball and a greater range of shots. Also, plays spin better. I've always put him in the bracket of Kohli and Pujara as far as ability is concerned and the reason why he hasn't kicked on in ODIs is because he bats at the wrong position. He's an opener.

The only thing Shehzad is better at is spending time at beauty salons and obsessing with Kohli.

My favorite upcoming batsman from the subcontinent along with U. Akmal.

He has better technique, a better timer of the ball and a greater range of shots. Also, plays spin better. I've always put him in the bracket of Kohli and Pujara as far as ability is concerned and the reason why he hasn't kicked on in ODIs is because he bats at the wrong position. He's an opener.

The only thing Shehzad is better at is spending time at beauty salons and obsessing with Kohli.

My favorite upcoming batsman from the subcontinent along with U. Akmal.

A brilliant innings on a green pitch when Indians were in a huge trouble. Dude has a god balance between defense and attack. One of the better knocks in Eng by SC batsmen. He played brilliant knocks in SA and NZ as well.

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"If this happens I will swim across the Charles River! In winter!" -- OZGOD on NZ batting 6 sessions

Has he? Since he raised his game in Tests, I've primarily seen him bat at number 4 in ODIs which is wrong.

He started off as an opener in ODI's. Rahane is a player who will not slog and is a correct player. Opening is the best spot for him in ODI's as he likes to play along the ground most of the times. He should stick to number 5 in tests.