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Pity...

posted by R.Jahanbakhshi

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Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:48:05 GMThttps://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/pdc2008/TL13#c633631960850000000R.JahanbakhshiRe: Microsoft Visual C++: 10 Is the New 6
first part is true now ,when is the second?

posted by mathphoenix

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Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:29:16 GMThttps://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/pdc2008/TL13#c633696461560000000mathphoenixRe: Microsoft Visual C++: 10 Is the New 6
Boris admits VS6 was before his time, and in the video, he doesn't seem to know what MFC stands for, but sure thinks MEF is really cool. He said he was hired to add refactoring into the IDE, but it won't be in this verison.

In the video, he doesn't demonstrate any understanding about what VS6 users have been complaining about. He doesn't mention any of them and certainly doesn't acknowledge the complaints VS6 users have. Sure he shows a couple of cool new library features, some
new capabilities in MFC, and some bug fixes, but these have nothing to do with the IDE itself.

If this is their leader, no wonder the IDE is languishing.

He seems to suggest that the new VS IDEs can do way more with bigger projects. He keeps using the phrase "what WE want to do", refering to the developers at Microsoft.

The problem, is the core IDE design, even if he gets Intellisense fixed, still sucks. The class wizard is disastrous, the add function and add variable wizards are poorly layed out and cumbersome, and just to awkward to be of any use. The Resource editor is
crap. Property pages are entirely too time consuming to work with.

I will lay down a challenge to Microsoft: For any given C++/MFC project, I can develop and debug it faster in VS6 than their best VS8 developer, especially if it has any kind of complex dialog specs or bitmap colouring, and end up with better structured and
organized code.

The new VS series will NEVER be the "New 6" until VS developers understand what is so good about the VS6 IDE and make a concerted effort to try to duplicate it.