maybe you won't find a Mason with a higher rank than yours in your area, but then it doesn't mean that other "fraternities" and more "ranks" exist. The evidence from testimonies point to the fact that there could be even 90 degrees that go beyond Masonry. That's why it is so easy for a high priest of Satanism to get a 33rd degree. It really doesn't mean much to them. Masonry is way down in their scale. The fact is that degrees really mean nothing...it is power (including spiritual) that counts for them. The degrees follow.

Bondi, you are the one going to a secret society and you call me a conspiracy nut ?

maybe you won't find a Mason with a higher rank than yours in your area, but then it doesn't mean that other "fraternities" and more "ranks" exist.

Not in Freemasonry there isn't. Anything that claims to be a more senior rank than me, is not Freemasonry, I can assure you of that.

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The evidence from testimonies point to the fact that there could be even 90 degrees that go beyond Masonry.

That would be the Ancient & Primitive Rite of Freemasonry , and exclusively Christian Chivalric order, which is irregular Freemasonry. Most recent attempts to peddle this clandestine rite has been made by a chap of the name Rui, who is also to do with the Cabinda political party. NOT MASONIC and NOT FREEMASONRY, a wolve in sheeps clothing as it were.

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That's why it is so easy for a high priest of Satanism to get a 33rd degree. It really doesn't mean much to them.

Only in the Americas, like I said Freemasonry is global and Americas is the only place where it is so easy.

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Masonry is way down in their scale. The fact is that degrees really mean nothing...it is power (including spiritual) that counts for them.

Then why the persecution of Freemasonry, this whole section is about the slanderous notion being batted about regarding Freemasonry, and now masonry is way down the list and not really of importance?

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Bondi, you are the one going to a secret society and you call me a conspiracy nut ?

Can you answer me one question, Why do you class Freemasonry a secret society, what is it that you actually think is secret?

What does it matter if it is not called Masonry but it CONTROLS Masonry ? The elite, call them Illuminati, The Brotherhood, The Council or whatever you want, use lots of different groups. Masonry is just one of them, but probably the most useful because of its numbers.

The secrecy about Masonry is not really about who is a member (even though sometimes it also is) but about what they do inside the lodge, and the real nature of their objectives and beliefs.

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What does it matter if it is not called Masonry but it CONTROLS Masonry ?

Nothing controls Freemasonry, of that i can assure you. There is no central point. Each state and country controls their own area.

If you have a problem in a State, then the problem stops at the border.

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The elite, call them Illuminati, The Brotherhood, The Council or whatever you want, use lots of different groups.

But the butt stops with Freemasonry, no other group receives so much persecution. The reason for this is because we are open and let people see us.

If Freemasonry was truly a secret organisation, you wouldn't know as much as you do, people wouldn't know as much as they do.

There are many secretive orgs of which I am sure you and others know nothing, and that is why they are not talked about it. Freemasonry has tried to be more and more open as the years pass, and face further and further persecution the more it allows people to see.

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Masonry is just one of them, but probably the most useful because of its numbers.

quality has always out done quantity.

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The secrecy about Masonry is not really about who is a member (even though sometimes it also is) but about what they do inside the lodge,

I have already told you what happens in th lodge, but it is not very exciting to the conspiracy theorist, who wnats to pin the tail on the donkey. It doesn't fit the profile of power hungry people hell bent on world domination.

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and the real nature of their objectives and beliefs.

The objective of Freemasonry, to make good men better. It encourages men to be good, kind, generous, and to treat all fairly, and as equals.

Freemasonry's only belief is that all people are equal.

I know this doesn't fit into what you all seem to want it to be, but this is FREEMASONRY as it is practised globally.

The little pockets of power hungry idiots who've watched too much hollywood wouldn't even make up 1% of the membership.