> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PAEEsOvZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-15T01:15:46.294+0000)
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> https://twitter.com/thejanellemj/status/1158423105481535489?s=20
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> For those who can't access twitter:
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> Now, of course she can't say what skin it was nor what champion just that it was a great skin for an unpopular champion. Now, let's make the assumption that this was a 1350 skin (About ~12 dollars or so) and let's also make the leap that Stellari at the time made 99,999 USD annually because reasons.
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> With this, you can narrow down that out of a _global_ audience, just short of nine thousand people bought this skin. Nine, thousand. Regardless of what you think League's playerbase is now, that's abyssal. Like bottom-of-the-ocean-tier-skin-sales. Of course I'm sure there are arguments people could make/question such as if that champion was strong, if they were old/new, if the skin really _was_ well made, etc. No matter what, this is just kind of a morbid reminder about how utterly massive the gap is between a popular and unpopular champion.
Yeah but she mean RIOT thinks it's a great skin, or players thought it was a great skin? Cuz there's a massive difference. Like what RIOT seems to think is great and what we want seems to generally be the opposite of such.

We had the last Blue Essence Emporium in June or July, where certain chromas were available for about 2000BE each. The next BE Emporium (if there is another this year) will probably be in November or December I'd imagine, or well, next year.
[Here's some info.](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/store/sales/midseason-essence-emporium-now-live-0)

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> [{quoted}](name=kaijukitten,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hVpLV0tJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-14T20:58:34.805+0000)
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> I received a Teemo emote, a Teemote. I hate myself. {{sticker:sg-shisa}} {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
It's quite a nice emoji to be frank...I want that emoji, better than the regular thumbs up.

> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hVpLV0tJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-14T22:01:56.231+0000)
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> It's quite a nice emoji to be frank...I want that emoji, better than the regular thumbs up.
I mean it's not a horrible emote no, but I wanted a skin so bad, any skin would do. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}

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> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=o1G4Hx2Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-14T20:03:37.990+0000)
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> There are a lot of non-cohesive splash arts. Compare:
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> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c0/Lucian_PROJECTSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180412204546
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> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/3b/Master_Yi_PROJECTYiSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181021063502
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> Lucian's some sort of almost collage-like stylized art style, while Yi goes for the realistic sci-fi style.
Eh, that's fair. I still think they're of the same quality, though? They both look finished, and like they're from the same game.

> [{quoted}](name=Jhins Girlfriend,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=o1G4Hx2Y,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T20:07:58.146+0000)
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> Eh, that's fair. I still think they're of the same quality, though? They both look finished, and like they're from the same game.
That and you can instantly tell they're Project skins. Nami just looks like a pretty girl in a pond, Morgana's fits the theme more.

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> [{quoted}](name=kaijukitten,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6AGPliuI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T04:25:30.052+0000)
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> Hey do you happen to know how much the bundle drops in price if you own the ward? Wondering if 5000 RP would be enough for both bundles.
The bundles all drop in price by 320 RP once you own the ward skin. :^)
This makes Rakan/Xayah's bundles drop to 2370 RP each, and Neeko/Zoe's bundles drop to 1900 RP each (assuming you _already own the champions_)!
You'd need an additional 60 RP to cover both bundles, assuming you buy 5000 RP (_and_ assuming you buy both champions beforehand).
Hope this helps! :^)

> [{quoted}](name=Nicacola,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6AGPliuI,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T20:25:29.734+0000)
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> The bundles all drop in price by 320 RP once you own the ward skin. :^)
> This makes Rakan/Xayah's bundles drop to 2370 RP each, and Neeko/Zoe's bundles drop to 1900 RP each (assuming you _already own the champions_)!
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> You'd need an additional 60 RP to cover both bundles, assuming you buy 5000 RP (_and_ assuming you buy both champions beforehand).
> Hope this helps! :^)
Dang. Was hoping 5000 RP would be enough. Thank you so much for the info, that was actually super helpful! :D

Same. I hope one day they do this. It already says what acct level you are anyway (unless you're using the ranked border), so I don't see what difference it's make to allow us this ability to further customize.

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Support is a lane, not a fucking class.
Just because Pyke's not an enchanter doesn't mean he's not a support. Given that, you know, he shares a lot of similarities with the entirety of the fucking tank support class
Pyke is very similar to Blitz and Thresh in terms of primary gameplay.

> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vAN8uVNh,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-09-13T00:37:00.839+0000)
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> Support is a lane, not a fucking class.
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> Just because Pyke's not an enchanter doesn't mean he's not a support. Given that, you know, he shares a lot of similarities with the entirety of the fucking tank support class
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> Pyke is very similar to Blitz and Thresh in terms of primary gameplay.
Assassin, Fighter, Mage, Marksman, _**Support**_, Tank. All categories in the store to sort by, but sure support isn't a "class."

> [{quoted}](name=popebatman777,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VyEkEK3V,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-13T04:39:06.849+0000)
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> is prestige neeko only going to be a limited time prestige or is it gonna be a permnant like the fizz and aatrox one since there is no event pass for star guardian???
She's available for PP, so I imagine she'll be up until the PP expire, so end of January is my guess.

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The xayah and rakan bundles are the same prices because they both include the same amount of stuff. If you own the champ, the bundle price will go down because you don't need to buy the champ with rp
And yes the bundle price goes down if you own the ward because you don't need to buy the ward anymore when you own it

> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6AGPliuI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T21:45:38.536+0000)
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> The xayah and rakan bundles are the same prices because they both include the same amount of stuff. If you own the champ, the bundle price will go down because you don't need to buy the champ with rp
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> And yes the bundle price goes down if you own the ward because you don't need to buy the ward anymore when you own it
Hey do you happen to know how much the bundle drops in price if you own the ward? Wondering if 5000 RP would be enough for both bundles.

> [{quoted}](name=Unvictus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=d4jQHEeW,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-12T23:51:53.647+0000)
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> Command: Shockwave (R) damage increased from [150/225/300 (+70% AP)] to [200/275/350 (+80% AP)]
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> This time of year just makes me laugh. Looking at all the balance changes they make forcing certain champions into the meta because they are “flashy” and make for good wombo combos/ highlight reels.
See that's the thing I don't understand, if these Pro Players are so good (and I'm not saying they're not, I'm sure they're a 1000 times better at this game than I could ever freaking be) then why do they need these buffs before Worlds? Or other big events, shouldn't they be able to make things go burst and have the flashy plays, and the great outplays and whatnot all off of their amazing skills and great micro and macro? Why does Riot have to buff already good champs just so things can go BOOM sooner? Teamfights are already hard as hell to tell what's going on half the damn time, wouldn't that more dmg make that problem worse??? And less watchable???
Like I literally don't understand the logic.

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I don't especially care anymore. (Mostly stopped playing) but there is factor here which is rather complicating. A fairly wide selection of those champs arn't exactly dominating in terms of performance for top players. And only Jinx is doing well in terms of overall performance. So they are popular, is it Riot's job to enforce diversity by nerfing champions people like to play into the ground until they see less play?
I'm sorry, but 'too many people enjoy playing this champ, lets ruin it' seems like an odd balance decision.
(Although I think you can probably justify Jinx nerfs via winrate, and Sylias and Yasuo based on their long-term banrate numbers, and possibly Pyke)

> [{quoted}](name=JJI744,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0PoEYVk8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-07T20:04:10.703+0000)
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> I don't especially care anymore. (Mostly stopped playing) but there is factor here which is rather complicating. A fairly wide selection of those champs arn't exactly dominating in terms of performance for top players. And only Jinx is doing well in terms of overall performance. So they are popular, is it Riot's job to enforce diversity by nerfing champions people like to play into the ground until they see less play?
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> I'm sorry, but 'too many people enjoy playing this champ, lets ruin it' seems like an odd balance decision.
>
> (Although I think you can probably justify Jinx nerfs via winrate, and Sylias and Yasuo based on their long-term banrate numbers, and possibly Pyke)
They could just make more champs viable, or even fun to play?

Yeah. They want that money tho so lately if a skin has chromas + border you're not gonna get a bundle without "both."
I agree they should have like, at least a SEPARATE bundle with the chromas + border + icon b/c not everybody wants the chromas or wants to spend that much money for something they're barely gonna use (most people like only 1 or 2 chromas, it's bad enough they've paywalled the ruby chromas behind bundles, now they're walling exclusive icons/borders behind chroma bundles. Like Rito can you not?).

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TFT is a new game, which likely will have its own reward in the form of a new map and or little legends, riot has made it clear TFT is its own game, they wont give you LoL rewards for getting gold in TfT, and vice versa

> [{quoted}](name=Xphineas,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3Lou98Zk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-08T06:57:04.576+0000)
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> TFT is a new game, which likely will have its own reward in the form of a new map and or little legends, riot has made it clear TFT is its own game, they wont give you LoL rewards for getting gold in TfT, and vice versa
That's why I said prob not TFT.

> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HKaLzX0E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:34:08.141+0000)
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> I'd love to get lionheart furyhorn or sugarcone furyhorn
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> But i sure as hell ain't buying a 490 Rp gamble egg that has a 1/9 (2/18) chance to get what i want
I want a variant (or variants, Cheepers is also cute) of the penguin and some variants of the Silverwing, but no way am I wasting money on the chance I'll get a LL species I don't even want.

Yo it's me!
I love some of the Little Legends! I think they're adorable and I'd buy all the eggs in the world for the species I want (and I think a heck of a lot of them are cute as hell, just not all of them)! If I could be guaranteed to get the species I want, not this random bs.

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> [{quoted}](name=kaijukitten,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=TGHqbRjE,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-08-25T08:11:51.513+0000)
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> Syndra's already a SG tho? Or at least she has a SG skin. IMO it wouldn't make sense for her to have both a reg SG skin and an "anti" or dark or whatev SG skin.
I know that...the popular idea is that she turns into a dark anti-guardian, which makes sense given the hints in her lore about her wanting more power etc.

> [{quoted}](name=Baby Ghoul,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=TGHqbRjE,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T08:29:10.538+0000)
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> I know that...the popular idea is that she turns into a dark anti-guardian, which makes sense given the hints in her lore about her wanting more power etc.
But then she'd have 2 skins for the same line, I don't think they'd do that?
Or at least same Universe.

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> [{quoted}](name=Kumiho Ahri,realm=EUW,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=TGHqbRjE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:16:25.176+0000)
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> Champs I want to see getting a SG skin:
> {{champion:498}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:43}}{{champion:15}} {{champion:37}}
> Champs I dont want to see getting a SG skin:
> {{champion:350}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:67}}
Champs that Will probably get a SG skin if this year is anything to go off
{{champion:518}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:157}}
We have done Biannual skins, may aswell go for TriAnnual, plus poor Riven has not even got her yearly the skin and Yauso need his second Binnaual skin aswell, Pyke got his afterall. Granted im not entirely sure about Zoe its unclear right now whether Riot is going to make another one of their Star Children to get annual skins or not.
If i was to go with my own delusion votes for what i would want to see
{{champion:498}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:150}}
Gnar himself would be less magical Girl and more like he was one of those little avatars to the SG's, have his story being his SG was killed but had sent him away at the last moment, but not before he was corrupted by those void monster things they fought and that justifies why he transforms into a monster himself.
Also had the idea for Higher ranked SG character, have a Avatar of the First Star {{champion:136}} who is then guarded by his Three Elite Star Guardians (Maybe Star Sentinels) {{champion:420}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:203}} , idk maybe Asol fell to earth so the three Star Sentinels have gone to the planet, blending in as they try and search for him.

> [{quoted}](name=njrk97,realm=OCE,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=TGHqbRjE,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-08-25T05:09:58.982+0000)
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> Champs that Will probably get a SG skin if this year is anything to go off
> {{champion:518}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:157}}
>
> We have done Biannual skins, may aswell go for TriAnnual, plus poor Riven has not even got her yearly the skin and Yauso need his second Binnaual skin aswell, Pyke got his afterall. Granted im not entirely sure about Zoe its unclear right now whether Riot is going to make another one of their Star Children to get annual skins or not.
>
> If i was to go with my own delusion votes for what i would want to see
> {{champion:498}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:150}}
>
> Gnar himself would be less magical Girl and more like he was one of those little avatars to the SG's, have his story being his SG was killed but had sent him away at the last moment, but not before he was corrupted by those void monster things they fought and that justifies why he transforms into a monster himself.
>
>
> Also had the idea for Higher ranked SG character, have a Avatar of the First Star {{champion:136}} who is then guarded by his Three Elite Star Guardians (Maybe Star Sentinels) {{champion:420}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:203}} , idk maybe Asol fell to earth so the three Star Sentinels have gone to the planet, blending in as they try and search for him.
Star Guardian Gnar would be adorable and also the best.
(Pls no Star Guardian Yasuo/Riven/Both, pls)

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The Garena leak mentioned Neeko is getting a prestige skin soon.
Normally, I don't believe leaks, but this is Garena. They are responsible for distribution of League of Legends content in Southeast Asia and Taiwan, so they have no reason or time to make up a leak. They probably accidentally released content they weren't supposed to because now the page is gone.
We can reasonably assume that Neeko is getting an SG skin, and that it will be for prestige points.
[Also, Katey clarified that her star emoji tweet had nothing to do with how many SG skins there will be.](https://twitter.com/KateyAnthony/status/1165332012527259649)
Anti-star guardians has been an idea for a while now, but we know that Veigar is probably not going to be included in such a skinline this time around, if it even exists. He has an upcoming Elderwood skin just around the corner. Tristana and Nunu just had skins come out recently too, so we know that leak probably isn't accurate.
Aside from that I'm not sure who they could be.
My personal prediction is Neeko, Sona, Taliyah, Ashe, and Kayle as the new Star Guardians.
If there's an anti-guardian line added it would obviously have Syndra. I think champions like Morgana, Zyra, and Varus would be good for such a line as well.

> [{quoted}](name=Baby Ghoul,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=TGHqbRjE,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-08-25T06:30:45.364+0000)
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> The Garena leak mentioned Neeko is getting a prestige skin soon.
>
> Normally, I don't believe leaks, but this is Garena. They are responsible for distribution of League of Legends content in Southeast Asia and Taiwan, so they have no reason or time to make up a leak. They probably accidentally released content they weren't supposed to because now the page is gone.
>
> We can reasonably assume that Neeko is getting an SG skin, and that it will be for prestige points.
>
> [Also, Katey clarified that her star emoji tweet had nothing to do with how many SG skins there will be.](https://twitter.com/KateyAnthony/status/1165332012527259649)
>
> Anti-star guardians has been an idea for a while now, but we know that Veigar is probably not going to be included in such a skinline this time around, if it even exists. He has an upcoming Elderwood skin just around the corner. Tristana and Nunu just had skins come out recently too, so we know that leak probably isn't accurate.
>
> Aside from that I'm not sure who they could be.
>
> My personal prediction is Neeko, Sona, Taliyah, Ashe, and Kayle as the new Star Guardians.
>
> If there's an anti-guardian line added it would obviously have Syndra. I think champions like Morgana, Zyra, and Varus would be good for such a line as well.
Syndra's already a SG tho? Or at least she has a SG skin. IMO it wouldn't make sense for her to have both a reg SG skin and an "anti" or dark or whatev SG skin.