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Voting Proposed For Debian Jessie's Init System

01-26-2014, 12:40 AM

Phoronix: Voting Proposed For Debian Jessie's Init System

After last week having an update on the current init system debate within Debian -- largely between systemd and Upstart -- and a major music company coming out in favor of systemd, the init system for Debian Jessie may now be taken to a vote...

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No surprises there; of the 8 members, those are the three that have strongly come out in favor of systemd. There are three others that have come out strongly in favor of Upstart (two Canonical employees and one former employee).

The ones to watch are Don Armstrong and Andreas Barth. Armstrong came out slightly in favor of systemd, and Barth in favor of upstart but not really happy with any of the choices.

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I've pushed for systemd and sooner the better. Get this crap agreed upon. Debian keeps stalling all sorts of package upgrades whether its the asinine libpng upgrade, to this to whatever, the crap just gets slower and slower to update without banging on half-assed updates via Experimental.

If FreeBSD 10.1 continues to evolve I'll be spending more and more time on it, rather than Linux.

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I've pushed for systemd and sooner the better. Get this crap agreed upon. Debian keeps stalling all sorts of package upgrades whether its the asinine libpng upgrade, to this to whatever, the crap just gets slower and slower to update without banging on half-assed updates via Experimental.

If FreeBSD 10.1 continues to evolve I'll be spending more and more time on it, rather than Linux.

That's the main problem with any project/group, you start small can make changes quickly, then you grow, start adding laws and bureaucracy, politics and personal ambitions creep in, infighting, and suddenly realize you look a lot like a typical slow bureaucratic corporate dinosaur, which debian is, without "corporate".

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That's the main problem with any project/group, you start small can make changes quickly, then you grow, start adding laws and bureaucracy, politics and personal ambitions creep in, infighting, and suddenly realize you look a lot like a typical slow bureaucratic corporate dinosaur, which debian is, without "corporate".

In a corporation you usually at least have someone who can make decisions unilaterally.