I'm begining to suspect that the reason people like to go off on one about CAMRA is because as far as an organisation for beer lovers in Britain goes CAMRA is the only game in town. CAMRA engages in far more activities than "saving cask beer" now so there's always something it does that people disagree with or think it could do better. To help people get the whinging out of their system I've decided to compile a list of the things CAMRA gets up to, and once they've been listed we can systematically work through them and say if they're good, bad or indifferent.

It's not the good things they do that bother us, and very many good things they do too, but it's the things they fight against, which are not bad, such as cask breathers, unfiltered keg beer, non-bottle conditioned beer and publicans and others in the beer industry making an honest living.

Dave - "CAMRA fight against publicans and others in the beer industry making an honest living" do they? Please explain. (Oh and campaigning for something doesn't have the corollary of being against other things.)

Dave may be alluding to the pub discount scheme. I'm not sure CAMRA does campaign against unfiltered keg beer and non-bottled conditioned beer though, surely it just doesn't promote them (unless they're foreign)?