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"Those came after he got injured. And maybe you didn't hear it but he injured his throwing shoulder? Hello?" Dee Dub, not trying to start an argument, but Ben did throw a pick in game 1 of the season. So he left a few out there this year, just was not what we have come to expect, playing wise from him.

Ben threw 8 picks all year. 8 picks. Because he threw a couple of critical ones at the end of the year (they came also after he hurt his throwing shoulder), fans are questioning whether he is clutch anymore and even have the nerve to say he had a down/bad year?

I dont get it. 3265 yards, 26 TD's, 8 INT's, 63.3 completion percentage, and a a 97.0 QBR says a whole different story.

Ben threw 8 picks all year. 8 picks. Because he threw a couple of critical ones at the end of the year (they came also after he hurt his throwing shoulder), fans are questioning whether he is clutch anymore and even have the nerve to say he had a down/bad year?

I dont get it. 3265 yards, 26 TD's, 8 INT's, 63.3 completion percentage, and a a 97.0 QBR says a whole different story.

The statistics you cited don't tell the whole story. Check out Ben's 4th quarter statistics for the season, and his stats in potential game-winning situations. Not saying he can't rebound next season, but for an objective observer, it ought to be obvious--Ben wasn't clutch this season.

As far as the injury excuse? Both Ben and Tomlin said the injury wasn't an issue in regard to Ben's performance after his return.

The statistics you cited don't tell the whole story. Check out Ben's 4th quarter statistics for the season, and his stats in potential game-winning situations. Way down. Not saying he can't rebound next season, but for an objective observer, it ought to be obvious--Ben wasn't clutch this season.

Steelers were 6-3 and coming off a clutch win on the road versus the defending Super Bowl Champs. Ben was on pace to shatter every Steeler single season QB stats. He was being mentioned for MVP. Then Ben got hurt. The performances versus Dallas and Cincinnati played a huge part in your 4th quarter statistics for Ben. Both games happened after the injury.

Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser

As far as the injury excuse? Both Ben and Tomlin said the injury wasn't an issue in regard to Ben's performance after his return.

Look, most of us can just apply an eye test and clearly SEE that Ben stunk it up when he came back. I don't think being injured makes you throw passes right into the chest of a defender to lose games. I find it telling that a near-40-year-old Batch guts out a win in Balt. but Ben couldn't find 1 more win to send Pgh into the post season. That is crappy play; forget the rest of the numbers. Ben resorted to being Bone Head Ben, and it ruined the season.

Look, most of us can just apply an eye test and clearly SEE that Ben stunk it up when he came back. I don't think being injured makes you throw passes right into the chest of a defender to lose games. I find it telling that a near-40-year-old Batch guts out a win in Balt. but Ben couldn't find 1 more win to send Pgh into the post season. That is crappy play; forget the rest of the numbers. Ben resorted to being Bone Head Ben, and it ruined the season.

We get lloydroid. You hate Ben. To say "Ben resorted to being Bone Head Ben", says it all. To say that He is the one who ruined the season is a ridiculous as ridiculous could be.

There is a big difference between playing "hurt" and playing "injured". Ben probably was not injured when he returned, but he most certainly was hurt... and it showed.

The most obvious part of Ben poor play was in his head, not his shoulder. Unless a shoulder injury hurts your vision, you can't make the excuse of an injury for his game-losing ways. In both games vs. Cinci and Dallas, he threw idiotic, game-losing pics to lose the game. Had nothing to do with his shoulder; had everything to do with him being careless and stupid. The D holds Cinci to 3 points without Ben being Bone Head Ben. It cost us the season. Not acceptable and, no, I don't care that he "apologized" to each player after wards. Too late, too little, and just a PR stunt. Nothing else. I hope people jeer him all over town, if he has the balls to show up in public.