I am dead serious about there being a large base of old school folks out there who will never consider the AR anything but a "carbine" best used for varmint hunting. I am not one of them, I love the AR platform with a passion, but know enough of these folks on a personal basis that I have trained myself to use the word "carbine" in their presence to prevent having to argue the whole .223 versus .30 caliber thing all over again LOL

Those old timers must be conflicted, the M1 Carbine is a 30cal. Using their logic that would make the M1 an Assualt Rifle...