Opponents of Common Core don’t need another reason to oppose the federal standards, but a new study guide being provided to teachers may give them one. Called “The Battle Over Gun Control,” the instructional guide was produced by KQED, an affiliate of National Public Radio in conjunction with the National Writing Project. While it supposedly aims to give students a fair look at both sides of the gun debate, one look at its content is enough to put lie to that notion.

“The issue took center stage in December, when a lone gunman entered an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 children and six adults in one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history,” reads the intro. “Yet, months down the line, the issue remains highly controversial: An attempt to enact moderate new gun control measures this spring was voted down in the Senate, due in part to the powerful political influence of gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association.”

So there’s the hook that forms the foundation of the guide: We would have a safer America if it wasn’t for those damn meddling kids. Er, sorry, that damn meddling NRA!

This intro could have been written by Barack Obama himself, but the guide’s authors continue to stand behind the content. In a statement given to Fox News, National Writing Project’s Elyse Eidman-Aafahl defended the guide. “The National Writing Project and KQED both feel it is important for students to engage in fact-based conversations about issues that matter to them, their families, and their communities,” she wrote.

But it’s in this notion of “fact-based” instructional material that the guide – like so much of the curriculum surrounding Common Core standards – fails to live up to its billing. Even away from controversial topics like gun control, educators are straying further and further away from fact, justifying it by saying they’re teaching kids how to think for themselves. That might pass the laugh test if we could find examples of instruction that actually give students both sides of the issue. Instead, we see time and time again how liberals are sneaking their agenda into our public school classrooms.

As part of the gun control guide, students are prompted with questions like, “Are rules and guidelines that were created over 200 years ago still applicable today?”

If this was asked by a defense lawyer in court, the prosecutor would object on the basis of leading the witness. It couldn’t be more obvious how the child is supposed to answer.

Another question asks: “When a greater number of people in our society own guns, are we safer or more at risk?”

The answers to both of these questions are obvious to any Second Amendment supporter, but one doubts the pro-gun writings of the Founding Fathers are being included in the guide, much less the writings of John Lott.

Instead, students will be expected to regard these questions as simple tests of their common sense. Of course things were so different 200 years ago that they hardly matter today. Of course more guns make people less safe. Who could possibly believe otherwise?

This propaganda has no place in our school system. The gun debate is an important one, and it should be taught to students. But it should be taught in a straightforward, unbiased manner that actually encourages students to think for themselves. If the left had any faith whatsoever in their own gun control arguments, they wouldn’t be so afraid to let the chips fall where they might. They wouldn’t feel the need to brainwash a generation of Americans with only one side of the issue.

If anything, their desperation is showing. Small comfort when 45 states have now implemented the Common Core standards, but we have to look for light in even the blackest of nights.

Liberals want to ban guns and say the police will protect you but at the same time, you have this ‘BlackLivesMatter’ movement going on which says the police are out to get you. That right there is hypocrisy.

Reality Check

“Liberals want to ban guns”

Stop making up things Justin.

please mane a liberal politician wanting to “take your guns”

YOU are a victim of Right Wing Propaganda.

Justin Fillis

Hillary Clinton is just one example that I can think of at the moment that is saying that she is saying a gun ban is worth looking at.

Reality Check

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
she IS calling for closing the loop holes.

maybe you can find where she says that, because I am going to bet it will only be on Right Wing Media.

Have I EVER lead you astray like your conservative brethren have?
there isn’t a politician running on such SILLINESS.

a “buy back” is NOT confiscation.
It’s an incentive program to get “unwanted” guns off the street that sit in peoples closets.
you can own a gun in Australia and Canada.
there are just regulations to get them.

From the Huff link
“The Australian government, as part of trying to clamp down on the
availability of automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying
hundreds of thousands of guns,” Clinton said. “Then, they basically
clamped down, going forward, in terms of having more of a background
check approach, more of a permitting approach, but they believed, and I
think the evidence supports them, that by offering to buyback those
guns, they were able to curtail the supply and to set a different
standard for gun purchases in the future.”

Clinton said such a gun buyback program “would be worth considering”
federally, “if that could be arranged.” She compared it to President
Barack Obama’s so-called “cash for clunkers” program, which bought back
old cars with lower levels of energy efficiency in order to stimulate
the economy and reduce pollution.

the NRA is of course CRYING WOLF AGAIN about confiscation.

jakethepup

You only hear what you want to hear don’t you. Oh and by the way the cash for clunkers program almost destroyed an entire industry. You’re still an idiot.

I am a liberal you can count on for not making up poo and posting it on the internet.

This is more crazy hysteria being ginned up by the Right Wing Propaganda machine to sell guns, and get votes.

there is a snowball change in Hell of anything like this happening in America

yet they scream from the roof tops like the cops are going house to house confiscating guns.

THIS is evil politics at work.

UBBLUE15

There’s always a catch. The terms “mandatory” and “enforcing NEW gun laws” need to be taken for exactly what they mean. Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky, esp. that witch Hellary.

Reality Check

Oh,
maybe you can cite some examples
(like that will happen)

UBBLUE15

Nope, no examples YET since full gun control has yet to be implemented here. That’s the gist of this board today, what’s in store for the U.S.
But, if one looks at North Korea, Russia, etc one just may get an idea on where we’re headed.
What’s with your love affair with examples?
Stay on track …it’ll keep you out of the ditch.

UBBLUE15

It’s the preliminary planning stages still so nuttin happened yet, tho, wez ‘spect any ole time ital happen fo we can stomp 3 times ans take a sip.

jakethepup

Wow you are truly an uninformed, brainwashed sheep and a liar.

Reality Check

was that a silly con pretending to prove me wrong?

jakethepup

You are wrong dipshit. You don’t have a clue but like all dumbocrat socialists you think you do.
Take you meds and head to the basement now. Give you poster of Obblahblah a kiss and go to bed.

“I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged,” Clinton responded.

Reality Check

Ya, the word MANDATORY is something YOU ADDED (or the right Wing Site you got that from)

“By offering to buy back those guns, they were able to curtail the
supply and set a different standard for gun purchases in the future,”
she said, before adding that she did not know how such a scheme could be
implemented in the US.

“I do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how
would it work, but certainly your example is worth looking at,” she
said.

Hillary went on to suggest of a mandatory gun buyback program that it “would be worth considering doing it on the national level” because in Australia it was able to cut down on the supply of guns in the country and strictly limit the number and type of new guns available to the populace going forward.http://conservativetribune.com/hillary-confiscation-guns/

how low functioning does a person have to be to think posting some guy TALKING on youtube is EVIDENCE of something.

lets hope your 12 and not an adult responsible for anyone else, cause you are an idiot.

marlene

You’re right – and she’s said worse “I will take obama’s gun bans even further.” This is somewhat paraphrased, but means exactly the same thing.

Reality Check

except that Obama has NOT gotten ONE gun control bill passed.
so I guess the line you cite to Hillary is a LIE as well.

WHY do cons LIE all the time?

marlene

I KNOW why YOU lie with every word. Like the leftard troll you are, you twist everyone’s comment in order to disagree with it – just like the troll you are. Obama’s gun control doesn’t come in “bills.” Doesn’t isn’t given the opportunity to vote on anything obama mandates through executive action. Your comments are the dumbest I have ever read and this is the last one, no matter how many foul insults you insist on using to replace the knowledge and intelligence you don’t have. Say good night, Gracie.

Reality Check

Obama gun control doesn’t come from ANYTHING.
you can’t even tied ONE gun “thing”to Obama.

YOU are ignorant of reality.
YOU are a PARROT of right wing Talking points.
PERIOD.

jakethepup

You are an idiot. I fact Lenin called you people useful idiots. Take you head out of your ass and look at Clinton and Obamas speeches post Oregon.

Danny

Does any one know who this reality check is other than a losing socialist democrat liar. Vet have had their guns confiscated and the traitor in our Whitehouse initiated action through Social Security to start confiscating guns.
Do we have Hitler reincarnated in this reality check. He has a nasty disrespectful mouth like the socialist democrats or worst. A famous saying from he traitor is its my way or the highway. Screw the Constitution and the law of the land.
This reality check needs to study history. Socialism has been tried twice in this country and failed costing many lives and cannibalism. Japan commander has admitted they did not invade US due to number of hunters which made up the largest armed force in world. Many lives have been saved due to armed citizens that the media doesn’t report. They would rather divide our country and protect George Soros ideology controlling the anti American Obama
Black lives are the biggest lose because of black gangs. Reality check practice what you preach and do a reality check before criticizing the majority.
Tful

marlene

Yes – it’s a troll and can be found slithering all over the net.

Reality Check

Reality check is retired liberal living Ca and doesn’t let you low info cons LIE on the internet.

You are also a fool who thinks Hitler confiscated guns.
ya NOT TRUE either.

Reality Check

“Socialism has been tried twice in this country and failed costing many lives and cannibalism”

I would LOVE to hear what stupidity is behind this crazy.

when and where not well informed con?

Danny

In response to idiocy Plymouth Rock and Jamestown were settled as a socialist type of gov. All was to grow the food in a common garden and crop would be placed in common storage. Problem being those lazy disrespectful a** holes like you were too lazy to contribute so insufficient food was grown resulting in starvation. Just recent archaeologist uncovered evidence of human teeth marks on human bones.
Same type of gov. at Plymouth Rock the first winter with insufficient food supply resulting. The governo

Reality Check

“Plymouth Rock and Jamestown”
too funny.
God you are a dim human.

If THAT is your proof that socialism is a complete failure, YOU are a FAILURE.

(not that anyone is trying to get us to convert to socialism)

WE are a Democratic Socialist country.
Social Security is Democratic
Socialism.Medicare is Democratic Socialism.
Medicaid is Democratic Socialism
Public libraries are Democratic Socialism.
(and in the Constitution)
The US highway system is Democratic Socialism (and in the Constitution)
our electric grid is Democratic Socialism
Public Utilities are Democratic Socialism

I can go on.

your problem is you are brainwashed by right wing propaganda who want you to believe we are a capitalist bastion of commerce.

Danny

The governor divided the land and each family responsible for own food supply. Laziest either worked or starved had
plenty of food. Both prove socialism a failure. If you had studied your history instead of what ever you did you might have some knowledge to make smart statements.
Study interviews after WWII and you will find what Japanese commander stated. Maybe you are too busy taking checks from George Soros communist Jew or kissing traitor Obamas A**!!

Reality Check

why don’t you LINK me to those WWII japs saying that.

logistics and the dreams of the soldiers are not always the same.

Reality Check

“Japan commander has admitted they did not invade US due to number of hunters which made up the largest armed force in world.”

You are FULL Of STUPID aren’t you.

Logistically, the japs could barely attack Hawaii, ONCE, let alone invade the mainland.
Japan was stretched out over asia building their little empire.

only the people who believe in fantasy, claim the Japs would attack the mainland
critical thinkers you cons are not.
evidenced by the fact you think Soros controls America.
you got to be short several loaves.

jakethepup

Well said Danny. Reality check is just a paid troll. He is here to get a rise of people and get his little check from Soros. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

Reality Check

STOP LYING

Debra

You said, Whitehouse has started action through Social Security to start confiscating guns?? I haven’t heard anything about this. Where can i find that information? When did it start? And thanks for letting us know about it. There is so much going on, it’s hard to keep up with everything. I missed that one somehow.

Danny

Freedom Outpost 7-19-2015 author Tim Brown from an article in Chicago Tribune
Obama ADM. to try to use same guide lines as VA on SSN payees
About 4.2 million receive payments where as representative payees are named. Obama wants those to be declared mentally incompetent to own firearms and confiscate their guns as he has done with military vets.
One Vietnam vet took a anti depressant when he returned from Vietnam decades ago. He only had one prescription to help him readjust but that was enough for Obama to confiscate his guns. lThis kind of things are happening across US but main street media won’t report truth. One the community and local politicians showed up the day feds were to take a vets in protest and prevented it from happening.

Debra

Thank you for the information. I will look at all this. That is terrible about the Vet. That was something he took over 40yrs ago, i’m guessing at it being around the vietnam war. That was a long time ago. That was not right. I agree with you on the media. Half truths or lies. We don’t get the real full story. This country is in deep trouble. I can’t wait till the next election, it can’t come soon enough. God bless

Reality Check

I have listen to them and THAT would be WHY I know your a low info fool.
there are plenty of links on this page to her words and I see nothing about banning guns or confiscation.

THAT is all in the low functioning con mind.

Jarhead

The Real Chick has a real problem clearing that heavy colon mucus from head/ears/eyes.
Let us all pray: That Stupidity Become Painful & colon mucus easier to remove…..

Combatvet52

Your head is up your butt if you can’t see what’s going on.

(please name a liberal politician wanting to “take your guns”)

Reality Check

so naming one was too hard for the con?

I see you silly cons wetting your panties over something that has a snowball chance in Hell of happening, yet there you are looking for dry panties.

You are nuts. You are not a true American. Why are you even on here. We shall keep our guns to protect us from this government that has gone crazy. So screw you.

Barry Wendell Jackson, Esq.

The purpose of the Militias is to protect us from TYRANNY! Remember Lexington and Concord!
And nearly everyone here does not realize they will be, or are (17-45), or have been, members of the state and federal Militias. 10 U.S. Code Sec. 311. So, you want to disarm the Militias?

Ambitious Would Be Tyrants might help you.

Bobtrhn

I surely don’t see where i said i wanted to disarm our Militias.

OSAMA OBAMA

He was responding to the senile old basTURD real chick.

Bobtrhn

If you look you will see he was responding to me. He may have made a mistake and clicked the wrong name which can happen.

Reality Check

you are so stupid that you can’t even identify the liberal you are bashing?
very sad, fool.

OSAMA OBAMA

Go change your liberal diaper old man!

Barry Wendell Jackson, Esq.

Bobtrhn, Sorry. I meant and tried to reply to Reality Check.
To him I say: How will members of the Unorganized Militias buy Infantry Weapons (at their own expense) if Infantry weapons are outlawed?

Bobtrhn

I figured you were sending that to reality check. lol. It’s no problem. I’m sure our militias are ready for anything that comes their way. This has been in the making for a long time.

jakethepup

What’s wrong with America. Socialists idiots like you.

Derrell1970

Responding to RC is, as the Bible says, casting your pearls to the swine.
But an argument against gun control laws and how well they DON’T work is that you never hear of a mass shooter walking into a police station and opening up.
I wonder why that is…?
Okay, maybe the shooter is afraid of a bunch of armed Experts! Maybe we need more experts – armed or otherwise. But then there are plenty of experts on any military establishment. They are still trained experts – they just are not allowed to carry guns. And we do hear all about examples of these shootings.
Or why doesn’t a coward walk into a gun show and start shooting. There may be some “experts” there but that isn’t an established fact, as it were. So why not?
If gun control laws really worked shouldn’t a psychopath be able to gun down people any place he chooses without the indignity of being shot to pieces by well armed Amateur Citizens (who apparently can’t survive without some expert to protect them)??
Gun Control Cowards wouldn’t know common sense if it walked up and shot them in the face!!!
Call me crazy but the Second Amendment only protects my right to carry arms. It doesn’t give me that right. I was BORN with that right. So no matter what laws anyone passes to infringe upon my right to protect myself it has accomplished nothing but to turn me into an outlaw! I hope RC is at the front of the mob that comes to take them away from me…
Be brave, RC (Really Clueless)… come and get them – you coward!

jakethepup

Hey nice shooting Derrell…………………………..

marlene

I agree.

Jarhead

The Real Chick has learned how to make real dough from his/her/it’s Mom’s basement as a paid PC LiberalTARD TROLL…….what a fruitcake!!!!!

Reality Check

actually he is a retired liberal with a good union pension living in paradise Ca.

Jarhead

La La Land of the fruits, nuts & flakes…..

David in MA

troll

usmcltc

Of course, there are no disingenuous, hypocrites that call themselves liberals, right?

Reality Check

please point out some examples

usmcltc

You, for example.

Reality Check

Please point to something that I have ever said that was hypocritical of false?

usmcltc

According to you, nothing.

disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

‘Pick a post, any post’….Too easy. Now, if you had asked us to point to something that WASN’T a falsehood, or hypocritical, or both, you’d have us scanning these pages for days.

Reality Check

Too easy?
EXCEPT you FAILED.

and your tap dancing was very pathetic.

Ed Watson

The reality is that the only reason America is still free with citizens not subjects IS the guns we citizens have.

Reality,
Once again you are following in the footsteps of the liberal practice of “interpretation”. Of course, the NRA backs the Second Amendment. Someone has to do it. But this article does bring out some glaring issues with Common Core. I have not looked into many of the specifics of Common Core topics. But I am not surprised. Yes, we definitely need to teach the concept of individual research to find as much on an issue as possible. But kids need to learn that there are usually two sides to an issue. According to this article this is not being done in schools. If that is true, then there are definitely fixes that need to occur in Common Core. I was certainly taught in my college days that investigating both sides of an issues was necessary in order to see how different people view that issue and why they do so. I have made that a practice in my own studies. I have seen that happen in archeology a lot. I also see it in geology a lot as well as certain assumptions are being made and they are not correct. I am not sandbagging Common Core but there are apparently some flaws in it that need to be rethought in order to assist students in seeking truth.

Osama,
I have a good relationship with Reality. We do not agree on many things but some we do. I see way too many of the posts that are just name calling and offer nothing of substance. If that is all we are going to do, we best abandon this available source to air our differences. I like the idea of chatting with people who do not agree with me. I learn from it.

Osama,
I am getting more conservative but am not Tea Party and likely never will be. while I do favor Tea Party ideal and concerns about where we are going as a country, I do not agree with how we solve our problems. we do not learn by burying our heads in the sand and not listen to what others think and believe. I also engage non Christians as well as liberals.
Once we get past the name calling we can then to see how others think and then determine if they are right or wrong. I spend an enormous amount of time data collecting before I write anything and I am a writer, among other things. Often I do try to get responses out of people to know where they are going. That helps me to see the broader picture. But that is just me. I do not expect anyone else to do that.
Much of the info on the internet by both liberals and conservatives is flawed. I am aware of that. I deal with it in context with the history I compile. I refer to Abraham Lincoln. Some say he was the savior of the US. Others say he was a wretched human being. we have a display in our state historical society put together on Lincoln that praises him as the great savior of the nation. He was anything but. He was the guy in the crossfire when the war began.

Reality Check

“According to this article.” “If that is true”
THAT would be the problem Jerry. IT’S NOT TRUE

THIS is Right Wing Propaganda.
I have demonstrated repeatedly that they lie.

First off if you go back and read the top paragraph you will see this IS NOT CC.
the Right is trying TO TIE it to CC to get the right wing who don’t read well to foam at the mouth.
”
Opponents
of Common Core don’t need another reason to oppose the federal
standards, but a new study guide being provided to teachers may give
them one. Called “The Battle Over Gun Control,” the instructional guide
was produced by KQED, an affiliate of National Public Radio in
conjunction with the National Writing Project. – See more at:http://unfilteredpatriot.com/common-core-teaches-slanted-view-of-guns/#comment-2314796034

Reality,
I suspect you are relying on liberal information and not on correct information. I have not investigated that much of Common Core to know those specifics. I have a very busy schedule. I do not rely on the far right stuff anymore than I do That is what I said. I do not know if these accusations are correct or not. Tat’s why I said what I said. However, I do know that teachers are influenced by a lot of liberal thinking in college. I was and that was 40 years ago. I also see the liberal info all over the news. It is also on PBS to a considerable extent. Ever watch Charlie Rose? He is a brilliant man but left leaning so far he should just fall over. But that does not mean I don’t learn from him.

Reality Check

“I suspect you are relying on liberal information and not on correct information”
wow you cut me deep.
this liberal is well informed Jerry.

My WIFE is a teacher who has been dealing with CC for 2 years now.
I have access to CC materials.

She would KILL for prepared materials.
it ALL has to be created by the district or the state.
teacher swap materials as time goes on.

Reality,
I read the news too and I see the liberal bias in it constantly. I take it with a grain of salt. By the next day I have Tea Party info that is slanted the other way. When I have the time to research it I usually find some truth in between.
I do not question what you are saying about your wife and her teaching. That is exactly what I need to hear. I got some CC material from the local school district but it does not deal with everyday classroom teaching, just what the curricula is about. It has examples of what to do. That is all I know. I have requested an opportunity to sit in on a class but the district has very strict rules on that due to what they call, “safety issues” so I have no idea what is being done on a daily routine.

Reality Check

“I got some CC material from the local school district but it does not
deal with everyday classroom teaching, just what the curricula is about.
It has examples of what to do.”

well THAT is all CC is.
a set of goals TO ACHIEVE and a method of getting the kid to think “critically”
memorizing facts is not making you smart.

all this bull about CC programming kids is just silliness since all the lessons are created by the state and/or district.

Reality,
The first one that comes to mind was the distortion on the mainstream news about Ben Carson and the Muslim reference. The initial question was whether he thought that Muslimn sharia law was compatible with the Constitution. His response was no. The next question was whether he would support a Muslim fro President. HIs response was no. That was a logical response for the question asked previously. Then the article went on a rant about Carson being biased against Muslims. I found that very disgusting news reporting. Was it accurate? No. Carson went on to say later that he never meant to be negative toward Muslims. He just answered the questions. I believe he was set up for that.

Reality Check

he claimed that the “faith” is incompatible with the constitution.

“Speaking to NBC News’ ‘Meet the Press’ Carson said that he would “not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.”

The reason for the retired brain surgeon’s views, he claims is the fact that some faiths are not aligned with the US constitution. (COMPLETELY against the Constitution)

“I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter.
But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem,” Carson said.

Reality,
Islam IS contrary to the Constitution based on their sharia law. That is a part of their belief system. He said that a Muslim would have to renounce sharia law and take the oath of office on a Bible. I would insist on the same thing. Make no mistake, I am fully aware of the Koran and its teachings. I have no use for such teachings. But I look at the religion, not the person.

Reality Check

“Islam IS contrary to the Constitution based on their sharia law.”
Ya, that was Carsons talking point.

somehow we have 2 Muslims in congress who did the oath on the Koran and seem to find no conflict with the Constitution and Sharia.

NOW is the time for you to find some Sharia law that is incompatible with the Constitution.

Reality,
Since I do not any longer have my Koran, it is not quite so easy but I think I’ll see if I can get one. In the meantime. The Koran specifically says “infidels” are to be killed. It also says that it is OK to lie when in a minority. It is restrictive and abusive to women. It consists of two factions, Shiites and Sunnis. They have been warring and committing atrocities on each other since at least 900 AD. How is that for a good start? I will dig up more but it may take me a little while to find another Koran.
I can handle almost any other religion. I have no issue with a Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or Taoist. But my finding is that the Koran is pure evil produced by a mad man. That does not mean I do not like Muslim people. There are not many here but those that are here are nice people. But then, they are supposed to be when they are a minority. still, I find them to be decent and plesant folks.

Reality Check

Sharia is not static. Its interpretations and applications have changed and continue to change over time.

There is no one thing called Sharia.

A variety of Muslim communities exist, and each understands Sharia in its own way. No
official document, such as the Ten Commandments, encapsulates Sharia.

It is the ideal law of God as interpreted by Muslim scholars over
centuries aimed toward justice, fairness, and mercy.

Sharia is overwhelmingly concerned with personal religious observance such as prayer and fasting, and not with national laws.
(this ALSO makes it hard to contradict the Constitution)

Reality,
Your article will not come up. It has been deleted. I can guess why. It most certainly IS pro national laws. Check out what Saudis do to folks that are convicted of certain crimes. The whole problem in the Middle East for centuries has been the constant battle between Shiites and Sunnis. Also take note of those Americans being held in Iran and how they are treated. Idaho has one that is being treated in a very abusive manor. He is really guilty of nothing except to promote Christian activities in Iran such as schools. Do we do that to Iranians (Shiites) here?

Reality,
Nice try but no sale. If you back up to vs. 12, this is a parable and not reality and Jesus is not telling Christians to kill anyone. See also, Matt.is a different version of the same parable. See also Luke 20:9-18 for another parable. Then see Like 20:22-25.

Reality Check

So I am going to bet a Muslim scholar can just as easily make the claims of the islamaphobes about the EVIL Koran go away with some other verses.

Reality,
I had no idea Islam would be such an issue or I would have kept my Koran. So I am going to get one ASAP. I am going out of town tomorrow all day and to the state library on Thursday. I hope to get a new Koran if I can find one by next week. This is a must. I must say I do not speak or read the Arabic language like I do Hebrew and Greek. So I can only read passages and comment on the content in context. I welcome any scholar to respond.

Reality Check

I used to speak Arabic, Syrian/Lebanese dialect.
I could bicker with the local merchants like a local.

lost most of it since I don’t have anywhere to practice.
I never mastered the written version, probably because someone was always around to translate.

Reality,
When I was dealing with Iranians they could all speak English, so I never learned Arabic. I have some Muslim friends who can maybe help. But first things first. I have to get a Koran. Meanwhile I will stand on a thousand years of history of the Muslim people and their very questionable behavior. From my course in Middle East history and subsequent history in Europe I have lots of ammo. But look at what is taking place in the Middle Eat today. Shiites(Iran and Syria) vs. Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia (Sunni) to name a few. I realize ISIS is a radical group. So is al Quida. But both sides are always at war with each other over the same religion. It all boils down to an economic struggle and not a religious one.

Reality Check

AND I will stand on the year and a half that I had an apartment in downtown Damascus, being the only Christian for miles.
they LOVED ME.
I was invited to dinner constantly, asked for advice.
I wonder why these and the 1.5 billion Muslims that live in peace with Christians everyday.

Reality,
I stand on my relationship with Muslims here and I certainly got a long well with them in Iran. But their history is very cloudy and I am sure you know that. I am more concerned with their less than sterling behavior over a 1000 year span. How long have Iran and Iraq spent fighting each other? Since Iran went Shiite, actually. That fighting has gone on for at least the last 40 years. Now, Iranians are in Syria assisting Russia against Sunni folks who opposed the Syrian government.

Reality Check

what about the less than stellar behavior of certain Christians who wear white robes with pointy hats?
that was less than a 100 years ago.
are we going to take long past history to define groups?

OK,

then I choose the KKK as the representative Christians if you are going to point to Muslim Christian conflict that happened over a 1000 years ago.

Hmm, mine is much more recent.

Gee, did Muslim terror start before or AFTER we took out the democratically elected gov of Iran and put in the Shaw?

Reality,
What Muslims did a thousand years ago they are still doing. I know of no Christian denomination who ever gave the KKK and approval or took their position. Northern Idaho developed a compound of these radical individuals and finally we got rid of them. There are still a few around. They were just another cult who came up with their own beliefs and rules for living. I have no use for the KKK and never have.

Reality Check

Muslims consider an interpretation of Sharia to be valid so long as it
protects and advocates for life, property, family, faith, and intellect.
Muslim tradition overwhelmingly accepts differences of opinion outside
these core values, which is why Sharia has survived for centuries as an
ongoing series of conversations. Sharia has served Muslims who have
lived in every society and in every corner of the planet, including many
Americans who have lived in our country from before our independence
down to the present day.

Reality,
You have ben reading too much liberal nonsense. History plainly shows that when Muslims are in control they commit atrocities galore. Why did the Crusaders go after southern Europe when Islam had control of it and non-Muslims were grossly mistreated? To be sure, much of it was due to economic reasons. But the mistreatment of the citizens who were Europeans and not Muslims was quite brutal. I can likely find specific references from history books or internet sources, which I seldom use because they are misleading or downright fake.

Reality Check

AND what about the fact that there is NO connection between the Gun thing this article is whining about and Common Core?

THIS is propaganda Jerry.
time to face facts that they are LYING to agitate the right.

Reality,
I thought I just answered that. Nothing I have on CC indicates that teachers have to follow any sort of specific data. Besides, it is math and science and language. That is not conducive to those kind of classes. So that rang a bell and not a good sounding one. I appreciate the info you sent regarding what your wife is teaching. That is info that means more than that some news item says. So, thanks.

Reality Check

My wife works with CC in her class.
I KNOW what it is.
I see it everyday.

CC does NOT produce so much as a lesson plan, let alone books or “facts”
for teachers to use.

Reality,
Now there are fact I can totally rely on. First hand knowledge. How novel in this day and age. I would hope that individual teachers still write their own lesson plans. I would sound off very loudly if they did not. Can you tell me more about the sources of classroom data that they use? What about internet sources? I find those loaded with misinformation. I have warned legislators about internet information many times.

Reality Check

The wife is very frustrated by the lack of support for CC materials.
teachers swap lesson plans and ideas.

work groups are forming and they exchange materials. it’s a gorilla war, teacher style.

it’s like throwing them all back into school where the teacher says “create lessons based on this criteria.”
She is mad at the state for not helping more before they let this loose on the kids.
she is in Kindergarten (lower grades first were switched, high school I think started this year after 3 years of implementation)
she takes what she HAD and then adds the “critical thinking” aspect to the old lessons based on the “examples” CC has provided.

This is an effort by the teaching world to fix “No Child Left Behind”, which most teachers will tell you was the worst thing to ever hit schools.

Reality,
Over the past 40 years I have learned a lot about teaching as I have done plenty of it but not in public schools. One thing I learned in college is that teachers have to quit teaching via the lecture and expect kids to digest it all. Furthermore, kids to not learn anything about problem solving. CC attempts to correct that but does not go far enough in my estimation. since their tests do not call for any written responses such as short essay answers they lack communication skills. That is where we are failing kids big time.

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That is what should be taught in our schools. All else is unconstitutional.

Jim_Macklin

Need to teach why it was necessary in 1789 and is even more important today.
Just to get it right, there are two clauses and one comma.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” is just a fragment . “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” is a complete sentence.

When Alaska and Hawaii joined the Union in 1959 they each copied the United States Bill of Rights, Second Amendment with only one comma.

liberaldisgust

The beginning of the Second Amendment is in fact a preamble , an introduction to the Amendment itself ….. it’s not a fragment per say , it’s the introductory reason for the second Amendment … The Amendment itself , The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED , doesn’t empower the people , it restricts the Government , removing all AUTHORITY to take the PEOPLES arms or burden them through restrictions , licensing or registration …… unfortunately people have been indoctrinated instead of educated and our government is a TYRANNY run by people who only have their interests , power and wealth in mind , they do not serve the people of this country

Jim

The right to self defense is a right conveyed by Almighty God and affirmed by the US Constitution. I will continue to obey BOTH!

gunnerv1

Hawaii may have copied it but, they took a Hard Left in 1959.

Jim_Macklin

Yep, Too many little l liberals run a big Liberal government.

But if Congress gets its act together, the next President will sign a national reciprocity bill. Of course, only fourteen States don’t do reciprocity and I don’t have any reason to go where my Kansas license to carry isn’t valid.

When I went to Hawaii in 1989, the Japanese owned most of it. The place was also lousy with arrogant Californians, walking around with their noses in the air. Real Hawaiians are laid back and friendly. The Californians and Japanese are uptight, snooty and bossy. Bunch of control freaks.

gunnerv1

I left Hawaii in 1986 (after 13 years of being “Home Ported” at Pearl), There are only five classes of people in Hawaii, 1. Tourist, 2. People who serve the Tourist, 3. Military, 4. People who serve the Military, and 5. that tiny fraction of “Real” Hawaiians who wish that everybody else would get off of their Island (but leave your money). Why most Military Types can’t stand being there is after the first two weeks is, a. They have seen/done everything there is to do,and b. their dead broke by now with 2 years and 50 weeks to go (or be “Lucky” like me and get to walk from on ship to the next for another 3 year tour). The Japanese actually think that GUAM is their “Honeymoon Haven”, they essentially “own” the place now. I was also Home Ported there too (’65-’67) at about the same time the last Japanese Soldier surrendered.

Jim

My brother-in-law was stationed at Schofield Barracks. I couldn’t understand why he hated Hawaii so much until he told me essentially the same thing you just did. I never got to see any “exotic” locales when I was in the Marines. I spent most of my tour at Camp Lejeune. At least I could leave North Carolina, you were trapped on Oahu. When I went to Hawaii on vacation to visit my brother-in-law and my sister, I remember how I was getting a little stir crazy after only a few days. It’s a nice place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.

gunnerv1

I was there (on #2 Ship out of 5 there) when the “National Speed Limit” was lowered to 55 MPH. I always told everybody they did that to keep the Cars from flying off the Island due to Centrifugal Force.

David in MA

Punctuation is often overlooked in today’s world and the meaning of something is distorted and many have no clue.

OSAMA OBAMA

BRAVO! However, the left, who controls N.P.R. will do their best to soil our kids and slant their thinking.

Want to defund N.P.R.? Have them run a pro 2nd. Amendment program.

Liz

Sadly it will never happen, most are too apathetic to do it, especially when the President gets away with going around it .

Jim

You forgot to mention PBS, which is simply Propaganda Broadcasting System. The democrats successfully used Sesame Street to sway the vote in previous elections. Remember how obama accused Romney of wanting to kill Big Bird? Well, all the dumb 18-20 year olds who faithfully vote democrat were raised by Big Bird and so that accusation resonated with them. I was recently made aware that Sesame Street is putting subtle political messages into their script. The characters routinely make thinly-veiled references to the republicans and Fox News On one episode, Oscar the Grouch, a cranky green slob, is seen watching “Pox News” and wildly cheering it. There have been other characters and muppets that were made so as to cast an unflattering image of those of us who do not drink the Kool-Aid. It seems to me that PBS and NPR (National Propaganda Radio) are funded by tax money, so they should be neutral. As a taxpayer, I resent having my tax money spent on radio and TV stations that advance an agenda with which I do not agree.

OSAMA OBAMA

“The education of all children, from the moment that they can get
along without a mother’s care, shall be in state institutions.”―
Karl Marx

Yup Jim! You and I are paying to bury this great country, us and our grand children.

Jim

That’s the sad thing about it all. Paying for our own enslavement and demise.

OSAMA OBAMA

BECAUSE WE ALL DON’T VOTE!

Jim

Not enough INTELLIGENT people vote and too many ignorant people are voting. The elections have become a pageant and the title often goes to the most popular candidate. Saturday Night Live and Jon Stewart tell us who to vote for and the lemmings dutifully cast their votes. Candidates are not elected on the issues, but rather because they went on SNL and made us laugh and talked about their underwear (remember how Bill Clinton did that?). The current occupier has been accused of lying his way into office, but I want to know when he actually lied. HE TOLD US EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO!! Meanwhile, the kids were swooning over him because “he’s so hip and cool”. Perhaps we should quit letting kids vote. Raise the voting age back to 21 with stipulations. Let active duty military vote at 18 and stipulate that all others be at least 21 and show proof of employment and tax receipts. Anyone who is on the government dole should be suspended from voting. When a welfare recipient votes it’s a conflict of interest.

OSAMA OBAMA

I remember women voting for J.F.K. because of his good looks. Then there are the twits who voted for Hussein because he would be our first black president (even though Bill Clinton earned that title). That leaves us with Ohillary. YEAH! Let’s vote for her so that we can proudly crow, “I voted for our first woman president”. (Some would proclaim that title was already earned by Mr. Obama).

Arizona Don

The constitution of the United States of America should be taught verbatim and that exact wording explained in our schools. It is not! We all know or should there is a reason for it not being taught verbatim. That reason is the overthrow of our constitutional government our liberties and the free enterprise system. Anyone (democrat) denying that does not change that fact!

liberaldisgust

Absolutely right …..

David in MA

If not in schools, then in the home.

Liz

The sad thing is that some children feel their parents don’t know facts or understand like the teacher does. Parents have also taught their children to listen to the teacher because that is why they are in school. These moronic liberal agenda pushing teachers have taken advantage of this to brain wash the children with their own corrupt views instead of facts.

swann2001

There is a book by a former member of the Soviet Union and in his book (If I find the exact title I will print it here) who said that the KBG and Kremlin gave themselves 50 years to basically change people’s mind about Communism, and to feel young people think America is the cause of all the world’s problems. It has happened much sooner than they imagined. People need to take a long hard look at what the current Democratic Party and yes maybe even what some Republicans are saying and doing as well. If they are promoting Communist views and denigrating Capitalism and Freedom and Democracy then they are either front line Communists who have been trained to infiltrate our society or they are what they call their “Useful Idiots”. Their label not mine.

We need to find out what is being taught in our schools, to get involved and demand liberals who are promoting Communist ideas and values over Democracy and Freedom be fired. It is in almost every school today some of it is subtle changes in ideas and values and some are blatant and Anti-American in tone and substance. Our kids are denied the Right to even bow their heads in silent prayer today, but are being taught the “Five Pillars of Islam”. Some are being punished for even pointing a finger skyward while rooms in some schools are being set aside as prayer rooms for Muslims, prayer rugs included.

I am all for tolerance, but we are being taken for a ride by a religion that demands tolerance for their views, but Christians are being raped and murdered in their Countries, and don’t even think about building a church in Muslim Countries.

Jarhead

B O T H !

Arizona Don

100% Correct!!!!!!! I have it framed and hanging on the great room wall for everyone to see.

jakethepup

Kids will listen to teachers before they listen to you.

bobtherebuilder

Then YOU, or any other “parent” of those kids that would “listen to teachers first”…just should NOT be parents!!!
PERIOD!!

jakethepup

Hey Bob my kids are adults and out of the house and i don’t need your advice. I have more exposure to elementary and middle school kids in a week then you will have in a live time. If you think that teachers don’t ave more influence than parents, for the most part, you better take another look.

bobtherebuilder

Apparently you DO need a SERIOUS wake up call then!!
And you have no idea how much exposure I do, or do not have to elementary, and middle school kids in a week, a month, or a year!!
Maybe with the commie core GARBAGE they’re ramming down the kids throats, they would like you to believe they have more influence over your kids…BUT, if you actually believe they do, OR should….then I believe you DO INDEED need some serious advice…to say the least!!!

jakethepup

No Bobby I do not think they should. Half the garbage I hear taught in school should be grounds for firing the teachers. High School is nearly as bad. I am just telling you that the kids are being brainwashed and parents either agree with it or generally don’t seem to care enough to address it or correct it. Hell parents turn their kids over to the state for education and don’t even check on what the state is teaching. The Left is pushing “free” preschool so they can start the brainwashing earlier and parents are all for it.
The saying that “It takes a village to raise a child” is BS. What there saying is it take the state to raise a child and parents are unnecessary.
I certainly do not need any advice from you, I see this every day.

bobtherebuilder

Ok, now that you “cleared THAT up”, now THIS post I can agree with (except the condescending nature of the “Bobby” thingy)!! I will leave you with one more piece of “advice” (though that may be a poor choice of words, it’s more like stating FACTS)…
Ya’ might want to try being a bit clearer on your posts to begin with, and NOT be so vague with statements like “Kids will listen to teachers, before they listen to you”!!!
Makes it sound like you either agreed with, or at least have no problem with the “state of things” in the pathetic indoctrination camps the leftists TRY to pawn off as “schools”!
And I see it every day also…good luck in any efforts to be “clearer” on your stance!!

Jim

You are your child’s primary educator. I taught my daughter at home before she went to “school”. She is now in high school and I’m still educating her. Children are supposed to learn most things from their parents. Unfortunately, we have a generation of “parents” who can’t be bothered to raise their children and so they think the schools should do that for them. If you lay a good, solid foundation at home and follow up regularly, you won’t have to worry about your child being brainwashed. My daughter regularly tells me about the BS being taught in “school”. She sees it for what it is and she tries to help her classmates see it as well.

stoth

At home is great; however, only a very, very small fraction of parents are interested in their child’s education.

absinthe

The Declaration of Independence! There we learn about the king’s hirelings eating out all of our substance with his heavy taxes and about the merciless Indian savages ravaging our land.

If we made basic literacy a requirement to hold public office, we could clear DC in one swell swoop. LBJ knew what he was doing when he made the right of illiterates to govern us a national priority.

VA patriot

Should the right to bear arms be granted to all people? It is understandable with respect to the bulk of citizens who use guns to protect their person, home, and property. It is quite necessary in many rural areas to own, and use, guns to protect family and animals. Licensing of guns is quite proper, and supported by great numbers of people. It is important to understand that the problem of gun violence is not an issue in law abiding people, but not runs rampant in criminal activities. Sadly, removal of guns from all people is not an effective tool. Criminals will still have access to guns and ammunition thus giving them more freedom to use force in removing valuables and money from unarmed citizens. Sadly, removal of guns from rural owners would be damaging as predator animals attack animals and even people.

I am sure there must be legal resources to eliminate criminal gun violence while allowing personal use for protection and recreation among the overwhelming law abiding mass of people.

Frank Brady

Impose the existing laws, punish repeat offenders. A legal merry go round exists to in many cities. Sanctuary for criminals and their type of behavior is allowed by, judges, lawyers, politicians and courts. Enforce the laws we already have, if we did many less of the above mentioned would be needed!

Jim

First, we do away with plea bargaining in gun cases. Make it a CAPITAL felony to use a firearm of any kind in the commission of a crime. Then, follow through.

Yes, the right to keep and bear arms is not granted….. The same as the right to protect yourself and your property is not granted…

The problem with what you are saying is that history show us that corrupt politicians use licensing and lists as a step towards disarming the public… As it is ONLY the law abiding that goes through the licensing process.

I believe there are more than enough laws on the books, if implemented, would solve the violence problem… The gun is not the problem, it is the person using the gun that is the problem. This is nothing more than a violence problem.

I believe corrupt politicians have nefarious reasons for trying to implement gun laws that they know will do nothing to stop or improve “gun” violence.

I no longer trust our politicians, especially the ones that march out immediately after a tragedy and start calling for more gun control.

VA patriot

Certainly removing guns from responsible citizens just makes the irresponsible more dangerous. When only the criminals have weapons they may assert their wishes without personal danger. It is simply all too easy for a court to fail in dealing with criminal behavior. Gun control law would take guns from law abiding citizens while criminals would find many avenues of supply for both guns and ammunition.

I agree with your issue of trust with politicians. The problem of increasing death due to gun use is directly linked to failure of politicians to address the numbers of criminals having access to firearms that are too easy to obtain, are not licensed to individuals, and with easy access to the necessary cartridges, cartridges that probably most often come from unregulated black markets.

It is past time for masses of citizens to get the attention of politicians regarding unregulated ammunition purchases.

Regulation is NOT the answer. More regulation just hurts the innocent. I view the regulation of ammunition, an attack on the second.

The current mass shooting problem comes from the mental illness side of things. The more the Left publicizes and sensationalizes these mass shootings in the attempt to ban guns, the more of these copy cat idiots there are. This is a hopeless cycle fed by the media and liberal politicians trying to take advantage of a crisis.

The current mass shooting blood is on the liberal media, and politicians on both sides of the house that trot out and sensationalize the events for political gain.

Shame on 0bama, shame on the media.

swann2001

Why if the Government wants to ban guns to prevent violence did Eric Holder give fully automatic weapons to murdering Mexican drug dealers? Seems like a strange way to prevent the murders of innocent people to me. They claimed Bush started the program but failed to mention that not a single weapon crossed the border and every weapon was tracked and accounted for. But under Obama and Holder the weapons were allowed to cross over into Mexico. That’s a big difference, wouldn’t you think?

You bring up excellent questions… Fast and Furious was not started under Bush as the 0bama lies would have us believe. Fast and Furious was 0bama and Holders first attempt at creating their own crisis of which they would not waste.

0bama and Holder thought that if enough guns crossed the borders and they could be traced back to America, that they (0bama and Holder) could lobby for tighter gun laws. In fact, 0bama was doing just that until, US Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed December 2010. 0bama immediately stopped his gun law lobbying.

It was only years later that Cheney publicly contradicted 0bama’s claims that Fast and Furious was just an extension of Bushs gun programs, Cheney said that the programs started and ended under the Bush administration..

Jim

Cars are licensed. Drivers are licensed. Yet, we still have more people dying in car wrecks per year than are killed by criminal shooters. Tell me again how this licensing/regulation thingy is working so well…

The only thing stopping them from instilling slavery in the United States is the Constitution and our Guns…..

They will continue to attack the constitution until we are slaves.

bandit

Yes , and with emphasis on the punctuations (commas) !

James Andrews

Exactly; this is leftist trash, plain and simple!

stoth

Amendment II, the constitution of the United States of America mean very little to Obama and his executive orders. He must post his executive orders, but his executive menus, that has the same weight as executive orders, do not have to be posted. He has, no doubt, written as many executive menus as he has orders.
The voting public needs to wake up – look – listen – and get a wider range of news. Not necessarily FOX, but all of the others media and dig out the truth. It is there, but truth is not being clearly manifested.
Time is slipping right through our lives, and it is very possible we may be living in the last stages of a democracy of the people and for the people. Reading the comments in the discussion makes cold chills on me back.
IF you do not know what is being taught in school through of the nation, It is doubtful if you know what is going on in government.

Take your children out of public education… They are too valuable to be subjected to the liberals propaganda.

Justin Fillis

I personally think that the teachers themselves have more liberal bias than the actual common core (At least in my school).
Also my English teacher wanted to completely ignore that the Oregon shooting was influenced by religion and probably mental illness and instead put the complete blame on the gun/guns used even when I brought up the point that the shooter only shot Christians in the head.

OSAMA OBAMA

Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation requiring public schools to include the contributions of gay and lesbian people in their curriculum, making California the first state to adopt such a requirement.

A Silicon Valley lawmaker is gaining momentum with a bill that would require “climate change” to
be among the science topics that all California public school students are taught.
The measure, by state Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, also would mandate that future science textbooks approved for California public schools include climate change.

PASADENA (CBSLA.com/AP) — A bill authored by a Pasadena lawmaker that encourages schools to teach about the historical significance of Barack Obama becoming the nation’s first African-American president is now California law.

marlene

These are the pathetic teachers that graduate from government-controlled, biased liberal colleges.

Jarhead

Where they learn to change the answers on test if the student is a minority/stupid/on drugs/lazy and/or gives the wrong answer. (i.e., Atlanta, GA) It also helps when teacher is evaluated for tenure, pay increases, extra benefits, etc.

peter

Common core is another way of creating a country of dopes by dumbing down America

OSAMA OBAMA

Everyone gets a star, everyone is a winner and these kids can’t even make change! LMAO!!

Reality Check

I wonder what Arizona was thinking when they MADE this program?

Linda Shelton

troll alert

Arizona Don

Got it!

jakethepup

Arizona isn’t idiot free there are people just like you there.

Justice

The Banksters have deliberately taken tens-of-millions of American jobs and sent them to foreign countries to force the American public to accept Communism (i.e., total government control). For decades most Americans didn’t care, because most of us had jobs, but now that most people don’t have jobs and the economy has gone to Hell, people are finally waking up and getting angry. Millions of U.S. citizens are losing their homes

Reality Check

“Millions of U.S. citizens are losing their homes”

BECAUSE you low info cons keep voting for the GOP who are OWNED by the banksters

joe

they are losing their homes because they were too stupid to add up what they make vs what a house cost they are idiots just like you

Justice

Most American citizens take their freedoms for granted. In most cases, it is NOT because they are unpatriotic, but because they are complacent (relaxed) in their present state of freedom. What many people don’t realize, and others don’t care to realize, is that freedom is NOT a guaranteed right…it must be fought to maintain or we’ll lose it. History has taught us that government has a tendency to grow into a monster which eventually overpowers it’s people. Unbeknownst to many Americans, a police state is now being constructed right under our noses in the very name of “FREEDOM.”

mjhiggs

We’ve had a Democrap POTUS for nearly two terms, and aren’t things just peachy keen with hope and change and redistribution of wealth??? Since there are fewer people in the workforce since the late 1970’s I guess the Democraps have given us more free time except for those working two or three part-time jobs just trying to survive. So just keep voting Democrap and watch as we are turned into a Third World country where everyone is equally poor except, of course, for the elitists at the top who tell the rest of us how we are supposed to live.

Reality Check

“with hope and change and redistribution of wealth”

WHAT REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH?

Reality Check

” Since there are fewer people in the workforce since the late 1970’s”

well THAT is a LIE you will never be able to prove.
Makes a nice talking point but as for Facts to back it up, not so much.

Reality Check

“except, of course, for the elitists at the top who tell the rest of us how we are supposed to live.”

WELL, THOSE are the people YOU VOTE FOR.

Reality Check

lets examine reality.

Before Obama, we were losing 700,000 jobs per month
After Obama, gaining 200,000jobs per month

Before Obama, GDP negative for a year
After Obama, GDP became positive and now the best in the G-20

Before Obama, DOW 6500
After Obama, DOW 17,000

Justice

There needs to be a trial by the people, for the people, and a hanging in Washington D.C. of all the treasonous criminals who are looting America, exploiting our troops to murder millions of innocent people and destroy our nation’s sovereignty. Tens-of-thousands of bankers, lawyers, politicians, judges, corporate leaders, newsmedia deceivers and lawmakers would be brought to justice and executed. The American people would rejoice to get their country back! Proverb 29:2, “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” Today in America, the people mourn! This evil has come upon us because of our wickedness in the United States.

James Ruddy

There is no silver lining in this at all, and they are not acting out of desperation by teaching kids to fear and hate guns and the NRA. They are grooming future voters. They are not in a hurry to strip us of our rights at this very moment, they can wait, shape the world view and mindset in the schools from an early age and let our children and grandchildren do it at the ballot box.

UBBLUE15

It is possible we have already reached the thresh hold of the voting part. Things are speeding up …

draidt

Common Core = Back door Socialism indoctrination

maxx

D.O.E. created and signed into existence in 1979 by Jimmy Carter was the very beginning of the socialist indoctrination of children.

Jarhead

DEFUND!

Robert Michael Vincent

What they do not get is …. enact all the gun control you want. By definition criminals do not obey laws and responsible gun owners will always possess their guns regardless. Only the sheeple (people compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led) will be bullied by a tyrannical government

David in MA

Is this Elyse Eidman-Aafahl a muslim?

OSAMA OBAMA

Not sure, but Valery Jarret is.

David in MA

Obama has infiltrated many, many muslims in his administration and in some very sensitive departments and many of those are in charge of those departments. America has been coup(ed) and does not even know it, all the muslem “refugees” are Obama’s “private army”..

Jim_Macklin

Sandy Hook had some women who were brave enough to attempt unarmed resistance. Same thing in Oregon, unarmed resistance against armed attack is usually suicidal.
Unarmed victims zones “breed” killers. Killers seek out easy victims. In Charleston the killer was said to have prated for an hour, in reality he preyed for an hour to be sure his was the only gun present.

Philip Allen

Common Core is a government sponsored program. The Federal Government wants to control your kids education. The Federal Government doesn’t want you to have guns and wants to take or eventually confiscate your guns. so why would they not slant their views on gun control. The Federal Government always slant their views in favor of what they want…just like the Liberal Professors in college slant their view about how capitalism is bad and business hoard all the money and don’t want you to have any etc. They lie to you to get what they want and cram their views down your throat. Just like Obama wanting to use executives orders to take away your guns, of course they call it gun control so it will not see so bad. The end objective is to have it illegal to own a gun and eventually gun confiscation. And by the way anyone who would support Jeb Bush a backer and supporter of Common Core needs their head examined. We don’t need more government interference in education or anything else but less Federal Government in our lives. Everything the Federal Government gets involved in they f–k it up more than anything. Want something to get messed up get the Federal Government involved in it and I will assure you it will be. Need I Say More?

UBBLUE15

Another thing, it won’t stop at guns. Any and everything you own will be up for grabs….

goldie

When the shtf, they will come for your stockpiled food and leave you to starve.

Reality Check

” Any and everything you own will be up for grabs”

you cons never cease to amaze me with your idiocy.

jakethepup

I’m sure we never cease to amaze you because you are so freaking stupid.

Reality Check

was that the con proving something or just flapping it’s gums?

Justice

Illegals are breaking THE LAW. If you are a Hispanic American citizen, then I am your friend. If you are illegally here in America, then you ought to be arrested and put into prison or thrown out of the country! We don’t have a country if we don’t have a border!

Azabigail1

As far as Reality Check is concerned you can either ignore him/her, or consider his posts practice for knowing what kind of statements or questions to expect from the average lib. Pass it on. (Unless you feel like arguing, just for the sake of arguing)

Reality Check

at least if you pay attention you will learn THE TRUTH.

eventually even you low functioning cons will figure out you’re the “brainwashed” in this country.

Justice

Someone asked me after the election how I felt as a Caucasian about having a black President? I replied that Obama is also half White and that my concern wasn’t the color of his skin; but rather, his allegiance to Marxism and his Communist affiliations. I have nothing personal against Mr. Obama; and he is certainly a likable person with a great smile; and he’s a dynamic and eloquent speaker; and he carries himself well; but anytime the government gains more control is a bad thing, which our founding fathers sternly warned us about…

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” —James Madison

swann2001

What TRUTH would that be? Please feel free to enlighten us because there are all kinds of truths. For example would it be true to say people in power who are protected 24-hours a day by other people with automatic weapons want to deny us that same protection? I grew up with guns all my life as did most of my friends and neighbors and not one of them has felt the need to act irresponsibly with them. Most of the cons you refer to do not feel the need to insult someone just because they have a different point of view. I think it would be true that if you had a valid point to make you could make it without insulting someone. Would that be the TRUTH?

Reality Check

Here’s a truth for you.
YOU silly cons constantly claim that Obama is “coming for your guns”.
THAT is s LIE.
The TRUTH would be that Obama only wants some better gun regulations along with the rest of us “normal” people.

More truth for you.

Right Wing Media LIES to you.

Take this “article”
they are LYING to you about the connection between CC and this “gun” program that NPR produced.

they just want you low info cons to foam at the mouth.
they know you never verify ANYTHING.

swann2001

He just banned ammo by Executive Order just yesterday, it is a small step to outright confiscation, if things go his way on the ammo ban. This is the most radical Anti-Constitutional, lawless President this Country has ever seen. Of course you will support him even if you found out he really was the Anti-Christ, why because you will never admit you might have been wrong about your Messiah.

Jarhead

Pup…that Real Chick paid troll also has a problem with his colon mucus clouding his vision.

Justice

Noah Webster stated the importance of voting for just men who will rule in the fear of God; not for charlatans who fleece the public, break all their campaign promises, and defraud the public…

“When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, just men who will rule in the fear of God. The preservation of a [our] government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty; If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made not for the public good so much as for the selfish or local purposes; Corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizens will be violated or disregarded. If a [our] government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the Laws.”

get out of here you dimwit yes we all know you are the village idiot you do not have to keep reminding us

Reality Check

the dimwit would be the guy who thinks the government is coming for your STUFF.

joe

sit boy sit , good dog

Justice

What’s happening is that greedy corporations have sold out America’s sovereignty in order to further their globalist agendas that make them more money. They’re exploiting slave labor worldwide. The Beast system of the coming Antichrist, i.e., the New World Order, is being built upon the love of money, the root of all evil (1st Timothy 6:10). From top to bottom in the system, wicked people have sold their souls for a dollar. Judges have been paid off. Lawyers have been paid off. CPS has been paid off. The CIA, FBI, NSA, TSA, Homeland Security, and hundreds of others organizations are all in bed together, all falling under the control of The Council On Foreign Relations. America has been hijacked by thieving criminals. Politicians have been paid off, and many blackmailed to go along or else! J. Edgar Hoover blackmailed hundreds of Washington politicians as the founder of the F.B.I., gathering spy data on key politicians and officials.

David in MA

ever read the patriot act?

David in MA

I would rather be subject to “con idiocy” than “troll lunacy”. Troll!

mjhiggs

IF YOU DON’T LEARN FROM HISTORY, YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF HISTORY.

Jim

It never stops. The powers that be want total control over everything and everyone. They’d like to be able to regulate our bowel movements if they could.

Reality Check

Common Core was started by Arizona and Florida and a few other states silly con.
hardly the bastions of liberalism.

CC does NOT EVEN produce a LESSON PLAN let alone “controlling your kids”

STOP LYING

jakethepup

OMG you are stupid

Reality Check

says the one not proving anything.

jakethepup

OK RC I’m done with you. I honestly cannot deal with stupid people and you are really a bore. Keep puking your lies and Socialist party line and enjoy your fantasy world.

Reality Check

the con who CAN’T PROVE SQUAT runs like a little girl.

Justice

I used to think that Communism takes from the rich to gives it to the poor; but that’s not the case at all. Communism is the rich stealing from the middle-class and driving everyone into poverty.

Reality Check

you appear to be mentally ill.

Justice

America will NOT remain free indefinitely if we continue to live in sin and indifference to evil. Even now, our freedoms are being stripped away. America’s people do NOT trust in God…NOT in the God of the Bible…NOT in the Creator of the universe…NOT in the Precious Saviour, Jesus Christ.

“IN GREED WE TRUST” would be much more appropriate. The love of money has corrupted America’s citizens through Hollywood, pornography, rock n’ roll music, and everything else imaginable. LIVE FREE OR DIE?

You’ll probably get your chance one day the way this country is going. A more likely option is that you’ll be permanently detained in a federal prison or an American interment camp on charges of terrorism for simply speaking the truth. Christians and patriots will be severely persecuted. Across America, local police forces are presently being militarized by the federal government.

The days of “officer friendly” are over, now it’s a bunch of thugs in Darth Vader combat uniforms. The boogeyman of “terror” is being used to transform America into a totalitarian police state. It’s sickening what is happening. Citizen, Show me your papers!

joe

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! MORE lies by the village idiot

Reality Check

was that a con proving something?

joe

I see your mom is not home again, shame shame junior

Justice

Most top leaders of our nation and those committing crimes against the American people in The White House are members of The Council On Foreign Relations (which is the visible organization of the New World Order). These people are thug criminals! The New World Order is the corporate takeover of nations. Nations don’t rule the world, corporations do! Many corporations now have their own private militias.

Justice

America is being stolen away from it’s rightful tax-paying citizens. And the sickest thing of all is that our own government leaders are selling us out

liberaldisgust

How about saying the funding and basis for common core is actually coming from Saudi Arabia , Qatar and Libya why do you think they are teaching Islam as part of Common Core

Reality Check

“why do you think they are teaching Islam as part of Common Core”
THEY DON’T silly con.

WHY DO CONS LIE SO MUCH?
My wife’s a teacher.
I have access to the entire CC system.

your knowledge comes from where?

jakethepup

You really think anyone with 1/2 a brain will believe anything you say.

Reality Check

I really don’t think you fools even have that much of a brain based on your posts, so….

Justice

Tens-of-millions of illegal immigrants are economically destroying the United States…

“Statistics tell the story: About 60 percent of deportation orders are ignored. In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding homicide warrants and 60 percent of outstanding felony warrants are for illegal aliens. American taxpayers are paying for the crimes of the 8,000 convicted aliens not yet caught and the incarceration costs of those who have been, estimated to add up to more than $1 billion a year — in just the states that border Mexico.

Because of illegal immigrants, free medical care has degraded and closed some of America’s finest emergency medical facilities and caused hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospital are closing their doors forever.”

Watchin U

From the homework, that teaches Islam, that is where I have seen it for myself. FACT

Reality Check

ya, well then the TEACHER or DISTRICT put it there since the CC guidelines DO NOT HAVE ANY CURRICULUM.
it’s set of STANDARDS not material to teach with.

so I guess your beef is with YOUR STATE.

Justice

Obama also thanked Planned Parenthood for “helping families.” How does killing children help families? What a deception. It’s all a pack of malicious lies intended to mislead the public. Abortion, feminism and homosexuality are all Communist paid for agendas intended to undermine America’s families and destroy our nation’s sovereignty. Planned Parenthood’s only purpose is to murder as many human beings as they possible can. Where does “motherhood” come into play when the only plan is to kill the child? It’s all a big lie. You see, they have to make it sound like abortion is good for the family, and that they’re helping and doing your family a favor.[1] The only one they’re helping is Satan.

cactusbob

The children produced in (what used to be) marriage are a measure of a nation’s vitality. China limited children for many years, resulting in the killing of many girls because sons were favored. Now they’re in a pickle, not enough women. Many countries have a falling birth rate because the population is poor or doesn’t want to bring children into this screwed-up world.
Islam’s program to take over the world relies on the birth rate of Muslims far exceeding the birth rate in the country being targeted, and that has boosted Muslim control in Europe. We’re a prime target for takeover now, and the Muslim Brotherhood’s 5-step program (Civilization Jihad) is working. When they make up around 3% of the population of an area, they can start accelerating their program, coming out of the shadows and gaining influence in civic groups and boards. Planned Parenthood, which began as a way to reduce the number of black babies, is helping in that plan, and they have strong support of liberals.

joe

bullshit your wife IS NOT A TEACHER I know who this clown is he does not even have a wife he is nothing but a liar

Everything he posts is a lie period he has the brains of a stalk of celery

Reality Check

you sound like a con with the IQ of a celery stalk.

joe

LIAR!!!

Justice

Don’t buy the lie that illegals are working the jobs that Americans don’t want. The truth is that no one living in America can live on petty wages, unless you live with twenty or thirty other Mexicans under one roof. It is evil what is happening to America’s LEGAL citizens. In fact, American citizens are now competing with illegals for the remaining minimum wage jobs in the United States!!!!!!

Jarhead

Joe stop dissing the veggies…..the paid troll is a fruitcake.

Justice

illegals are here to stay because of the evil New World Order gang who are committed to the destabilizing and destruction of the United States. The purpose of the deliberate open borders is to bring down real wages, establish a large group of non-citizens who will eagerly go against the Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution to receive amnesty, and ultimately destroy American sovereignty in order to eliminate the U.S. as an obstacle to achieving a Global Government by the criminal Banksters.

maxx

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

PLEASE DON’T THINK FOR A MOMENT, THAT THIS COULDN’T HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY !!!!!!
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control:
· From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
In 1911, Turkey established gun control:
· From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
Germany established gun control in 1938:
From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
China established gun control in 1935:

· From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
Guatemala established gun control in 1964:
· From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
Uganda established gun control in 1970:
· From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
Cambodia established gun control in 1956:
· From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
———————–
56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control.
———————–
You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

During WW II, the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

· Gun owners in the USA are the largest armed forces in the World!

· If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

· The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense.

· The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either.

· SWITZERLAND ISSUES A GUN TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD!
SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT ISSUES AND TRAINS EVERY ADULT IN THE USE OF A RIFLE.

· SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT’S A NO BRAINER! DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

keith

Chicago is a perfect picture of what gun control will do to the whole country. There are more murders in Chicago alone than the whole of the rest of the country. But that fact is never mentioned,it is never on the news or mentioned by the gun control advocates.Chicago alone proves that there gun control rhetoric will be a failing agenda.That would be if they actually cared about the safety of the people.

headonstraight

Common Core is a STATE initiative, not an initiative of the federal government.

Reality Check

Common Core was created by the bastion of LIBERALISM the STATE of Arizona, not well informed LIAR.

I second your suggestion. Not only does all 3 branches of government pretend not to understand the literal meaning of our constitution, but they arrogantly refuse to examine the Papers for its intent. This deliberate ignorance gives them their “reason” to mis-interpret it by changing the meaning of the words to suit their agenda. Even worse, there are Americans who actually believe them!

johnwlooper

Almost three years ago. I learned what Common Core was and how our young people were being spoon-fed the Liberal agenda through that curriculum. Since learning of this we in Texas have been somewhat successful in getting that crap out of our schools. I was amazed that some school districts were allowed to keep Common Core in their schools because “they couldn’t afford to develop a new one”! What an absurd assertion!
What I have seen since are some of the young people indoctrinated by it, express that they had no problem with Socialism or Communism.
Admittedly, on paper, Socialism and Communism are appealing to the young whose life experience has not been equipped to teach them the differences between our form of government and Socialism. They hear about all working for the common good and equal sharing equally in the fruits of our labor. They haven’t experienced the tyranny that rises to subjugate the people who find what Socialism takes from the people and gives to the Government and that the whole of the people are at loss.
The Liberals are committed to the ideals of Socialism and are dedicated to disarming the American people so they can be subjugated. How did we let this atrocity take us? We blindly trusted our elected people to do the “right thing”.
That isn’t working out so well, is it?

Liz

What do you expect? I understand states that have adopted the Common Core Curriculum also have the kids writing the pledge to Allah with a 3 month study of Islam.

Brenda

“Are rules and guidelines that were created over 200 years ago still applicable today?”
Were it not for those “rules and regulations”, America would not be the country it is today. Although the silver has tarnished somewhat the guiding principles are still relevant. Had we not had those “rules and guidelines” we would have devolved into a socialist government much faster when the FDR programs were implemented. Without those “rules and guidelines” Americans would be slaves of the government, not the owners of the government, a fact we often overlook during election years. Without those “rules and guidelines” we would be defenseless against the tyranny of our own government.
Common core often uses the excuse of “teaching students” to think for themselves while at the same time indoctrinating them into the liberal/socialist thought process. The role of any education system should be to educate, not indoctrinate.

marlene

Yes. Our rules, guidelines and constitution do not need to be fixed because they are not broken. A tyrannical government breaks everything that does work in order to re-shape it into their own psychopathology.

Lorraine E

Hitler said give me the minds of the youth and you have given me the country. Hitler would be very proud of what our government is doing to today’s youths. The federal indoctrination (used to be education) centers should be eliminated. The entire responsibility for education should be returned to the local level where it works and actually educates students.
When and if the appointed president is successful in illegally confiscating our weapons and eliminating our right to protect ourselves and our family, we will lose everything. We will have absolutely no freedoms and our out of control government will be able to do whatever they so chose to us and we will be helpless to defend ourselves. You’ve heard about the empty FEMA camps. They will be completely filled and called sustainable human habitats. You like to travel where and whenever you choose. That will end. If our guns are confiscated we will be no different than it was before the fall of the Roman Empire. Remember when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. They always have guns irrespective of the laws because they don’t obey the laws.

marlene

hitler, stalin, mussolini, mao, and obama!

Raincroft

And Hitlary!

OSAMA OBAMA

“The education of all children, from the moment that they can get
along without a mother’s care, shall be in state institutions.”―
Karl Marx

Raincroft

Hitlary’s Thesis for her Degree was on how great Communism is…don’t people remember that?
She also prosecuted Nixon…and she says she didn’t know the laws of private Servers??? More lies.

Linda Shelton

Home school while you can.

Art Hock

The second amendment is more important today with all the communist criminals running this administration.

Gerry Costa

Common core puts a slant on education period. These teachers should stick it where it will do the most good.

Reddler

” Another question asks: “When a greater number of people in our society own guns, are we safer or more at risk?” ”
Questions which answer the above question.
1. If guns were banned in the US what would stop illegal guns from coming across the border as illegal drugs do now.
2.If laws stop illegal guns from crossing the border from one country into another why was the ATF able to traffic guns into Mexico considering Mexico has some of the most strict gun laws of any country in the world? The only gun store in Mexico is in Mexico City and is run by the military.
3. Why are many law abiding Mexicans arming themselves against the cartels despite the anti-gun laws of the Mexican government? Could the killing of 40,000 plus people in Mexico, people the government could not provide protection for with the military or the police be reason enough for law abiding citizens to break the law?
4. If laws stop guns why has every mass shooting happened in ‘no gun zones’?
5. If a ‘good guy’ with a gun does not deter to a ‘bad guy’ with a gun why is the Secret Service armed for protection of the president and his family? Why do celebrities have body guards?

marlene

It’s not a “question” of guns that should be debated. It’s our right to own them that should be fought for.

David in MA

as long as there are machine shops in America, there will be guns in America and I hope this scares the hell out of people like Obama.

Reddler

I agree. We do deserve the right to own them and that right is something to hold dear to our hearts and fight for.

Raincroft

Hitlary wants to ‘update’ our ‘out of date Constitution’…what do you think she will do with it?

Reddler

Destroy it. … Seems to be the goal of Democrats anymore. Would you expect her to do anything less?

Jarhead

Stuff her Depends?

Raincroft

Well said questions Reddler. Criminals do not get guns legally! The good people will be completely without any protection if guns are banned. Hitlary wants the same gun confiscation as Australia has. That will allow her Commie friends to take over America completely.

Reddler

The UN wants America disarmed. Why??? Have Obama, Hillary (I like Hitlary.) and Kerry sided with the UN on gun control for America? … Commies?

MegaMouseGW

Gun grabbers will try anything to steal our guns from us and destroy the second amendment. This BS should be stopped at all costs.

UBBLUE15

As for those rules and guidelines of yore, lets go back 800 years to the Magna Carta, and even further to those awful guidelines that started it all, the 10 commandments. Wait, they’re already thrown out, the Magna Carta is a energy drink, and now they want to kick the Founding Fathers to the curb along with their silly documents.
What you are seeing is the malevolence of humanistic relativism in which we live in a world where nothing is right or wrong. These “educators” have been programmed in twisted logic since they haven’t been really educated at all. The U.S. education farce has been going on now for at least 40 years and has now become a lot more brazen with its ideology (anti-tradition and anti-God) of Fabian socialism (accepted by many churches) and communism.
As you all know, it is a plan. The government does not want people to have guns….no communist nation allows that. Why? The answer is obvious.
To belittle the Constitution/Bill of Rights to children is more than chilling, it’s downright evil. If the Constitution is so irrelevant and “old” then why do they run to it every time they perceive an injustice is done to their person or group?
What a bunch of mindless wonders.

marlene

Common Core is Crooked Crap. Everything they teach is off the mark. The purpose of our right to bear arms is to protect ourselves from government tyranny and to FIGHT AGAINST IT. I would never allow my child to be brainwashed by an ideology of lies and psychopathic indoctrination.

Raincroft

MOST parents are not aware of the Communism being taught their children. So many of them never look at their children’s school books.

WhiteFalcon

Is there anything that Common Core does that is good? The best thing to do about CC is to op out of it.

UBBLUE15

It isn’t easy to opt out when a lot of the stuff is required reading in the curriculum. Dover publications offer many classics with the designation of “:Common Core”. Interesting to see what is CC “approved”. Have to say, some are good books with a good story line. It is the INTERPRETATION and FOCUS of the teacher that is the problem with no reading of non-CC books to balance the equation.

WhiteFalcon

Anything good that CC does can well be done without Government control. I think that CC should be gone. I hope a lot of schools begin to take a similar stance.

Raincroft

In most instances you cannot opt out. The Communists have you locked in. That’s exactly what it is – Communist Training. Wake up People!!!

Raincroft

Another dangerous thing – Mr. Trump wants Secret Service Protection…from the very government that wants him eliminated??? He should decline any Government intervention in his being – or else he will not be a being…Some of O’s or H’s goons will take him out under the SS façade.

Dexter L. Wilson

Every person in Switzerland are trained how to use a gun or rifle. I wonder why? Do you think they what their people to be able to defend themselves and their country? The media talk about people using guns improperly. Those of you out there who have had to use a weapon to defend themselves please send emails to your local television station, newspaper and every major media. Sleeping giant awaken!

pysco

Common Core was never designed to educate our young…… It is a social engineering project. The United States has fallen from top 5 to 28th in quality of education under Common Core…… This is PC propaganda, designed to make Socialists of our young

Arizona Don

Common Core is not an educational system it is a re-educational system and has a specific purpose.

Every dictator knows if his dynasty is to last the children must be reprogrammed to think his way. Some call it reeducation some call it reprogramming in any case it is a form of brain washing. If it is started young enough it works every time. It has been going on here since McCarthy with his exposing the communists (especially those in congress) sent them underground (into hiding). Their goal(s) did not change nor did their methods only their name.

Those who are currently under the democrat name are for the most part communists. Those who are not communist are to ignorant to see the others are communists. Sharing the wealth (is a term used to hide government stealing) is certainly not the result of our constitutional guarantee, of the “pursuit” of happiness, but it is the communist manifesto (the authors of which was Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels). It is a stretch to say sharing the wealth is an American thing or even acceptable. It is neither! There is an inherent problem with communism. It may look like a utopia to the uneducated eye but it is more of a hell because it has no ability to motivate. In fact it destroys motivation. Without motivation progress is impossible. It is interesting therefore that these communistic democrats who support sharing the wealth refer to themselves as “progressives.” However, sharing the wealth is repressive or oppressive. The oppression of Americans started under a famous democrat by the name of Woodrow Wilson. For the most part with some but few exceptions has gotten worse under every democratic administration since.

Anyone who’s vote can be bought with promises of gifts deserves no liberty. Our constitution guarantees our right to “pursue” happiness it does not guarantee happiness without effort! Liberty, as many have learned in the past, is often not appreciated until lost. But then it is to late!

Reality Check

the dumbest guy on the planet speaks out.

Common Core does NOT even produce a lesson plan, let alone a curriculum for kids to learn from.
what ever is taught is the teachers doing from thing they create in the school or district.

get informed old man.

Arizona Don

So you finally admit to being the dumbest person on the planet! I knew sooner or later you would. Have a nice day.

Reality Check

was that the con proving he is not an idiot?

YOU terrorists need to STOP LYING about America.

jakethepup

You are dead wrong idiot. You have no clue at all… just a mouth.

Reality Check

such a fool you are.

My wife is a teacher that deals with CC everyday.

You get your info from right wing blogs.

UBBLUE15

Of course the TEACHERS make the lesson plans contingent upon the government mandate that starts from Federal gov’t and seeps on down to the state and local. Today, the curriculum IS based on progressive ideology whereas teachers in the past could make lesson plans based on the merit of the subject itself within a neutral curriculum.
Again, it isn’t the idea of a certain book or whatever, because many of the CC readings is OK, although somewhat PC. IT is the interpretations and any implications made regarding groups of people based on religion, politics, or ethnicity by the subjective belief, bias, and/or political leanings of the INSTRUCTOR. Some of the CC books are easier to manipulate in this regard. Literature used to be about the writer’s style, type of story, plot, character development, etc. Now, these fundamentals of the story are passed over quickly and go directly to “what it means to me” silliness and the story is interpreted for the student so they can make the only “right” assessment and go on with a head full of nothingness.
Your acidic name-calling is becoming old and shows where you are at on many levels.

Debra

Well said.

Arizona Don

Thank you.

coconuisse

So which lying group is destined to take over our country: the “progressive” liberal oligarchy or the rabid Muslim “Sharia law” caliphate?

wmagg

Perhaps what we should teach these kids is what happened in Germany in the 30’S when the people were disarmed. Or what happened in china when the people were disarmed Or perhaps what happened in Australia when the people were disarmed.

Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Reality Check

Oh GOD, the same tired friggin talking point about Hitler.

Hitler RELAXED gun laws when he came in to power.
“The Nazis did enact laws that confiscated guns from the Jewish people,
but for non-Jewish Germans, the Nazi laws actually liberalized laws on
gun possession. The Nazis did not confiscate guns from the Jews,
because of an overall enthusiasm for gun control, but because they were
an anti-Semitic regime that wanted to rob the Jewish people of any hope
of defending themselves. If you were not a Jew, the Nazis did not
impose gun control upon you, but instead provided private German
citizens with more freedom to own guns. Harcourt also concludes, “With
regard to ordinary gun possession, as opposed to manufacture, the 1938
gun laws represented a further liberalization of gun control.”

Well it’s good to know your still as ignorant as ever and just as full of BS as ever
Perhaps you should talk to a few people who grew up in Germany in the 30’s and 40’s. Their stories are quite a bit different from the BS you seek to put out there.
Revisionist history is not history but if that is what you want to believe go for it. All you have done here is prove your total ignorance and unending moronic lack of education.

SO here we go again
THOSE WHO REFUSE TO LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.
btw
these are also two of the sights that claimed the HOLICOST never happened. so perhaps you should choose something more reputable for your source material

e111w

As a parent of student(s) attending public school have you: Questioned your student about what they are being taught? Organized a very large association of parents and demanded of your school (or district) a complete collection of teaching plans used in your school(s)? Demanded access to the tests used by your school(s) to find whether there are any subservise contents? Why-in-the-hell haven’t you?

Reality Check

your kids should come home with the tests.
AND since you help with their homework you should also be very aware of WHAT is being taught.

maybe it’s your kids you should be talking to.

MrsTJNic@aol.com

That’s right! That Constitution was put there for a reason! God foresaw that Satan would continue his war on Freedom, on Earth.

Robert Gelzhiser

(“WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG”)???????????
When I went to school the 50’s and 60’s “EVERYONE” in American public schools started with a silent prayer (to who ever they wanted) and stood for the Pledge of Allegiance. We were taught math, algebra, geometry, American history, state history, world history, geography, writing, spelling, health, ENGLISH, literature, typewriting, home economics, gym and above all the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
(“WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG”) ???????????
[(“LEGAL PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZENS NEED TO WAKE UP AND STAND UP OR AMERICA WILL BE LOST VERY SOON”)]

Reality Check

the agnostic and atheist kids have RIGHTS TOO.
the right to not hear that SHIT.

Robert Gelzhiser

KISS MY ASS, I DON’T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP MAKING COMMENTS TO MY POSTS. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T BELONG IN AMERICA. IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE WHAT IS RUINING MY ONCE GREAT COUNTRY. TAKE YOUR MINORITY AGNOSTIC, ATHIEST, AND ILLITERATE KIDS AND ASS OUT OF MY COUNTRY….!!!!

Reality Check

BECAUSE you are an out of touch fool who IS the problem with America.

thinking prayer to the imaginary God is going to fix things show me you believe in fairy tales.

WE ARE A SECULAR COUNTRY
secular means NO RELIGION bias in government.

wake up and join the 21st century.

UBBLUE15

Figured your stance on God is what makes you tick.
Double check, this forum is about common core and, to a lesser extent, the Constitution.
So what if a person of the Christian faith presents his/her view? So does everyone else.
Tolerance is a HUGE fairy tale, professed by the PC crowd but never put into action where Christians are concerned. So, they are not really tolerant people, just full of misplaced pride and lots of malevolence.
This nation has always been secular but the one country with a strong Christian heritage and principles that use to be applied. It was never a theocracy so quit your bellyaching.
Paying homage to the government is not going to fix things, just shows some are useful idiots.

the above con WHINING about no school prayer being the cause of Americas problems,
like we ARE controlled by the Christian God, kind of pushes my button.

Keep your religion TO YOURSELF.

UBBLUE15

That is not what the post said. He said they had a moment of silent prayer to whoever. That’s it. You people cannot stand even a minute of silence.

Since I am confronted everyday with the religion of humanism, WHICH THEY ADMIT BEING A RELIGION, I will say whatever I want about my religious beliefs when appropriate in the public, not just in church.
Your thing about lies, bigotry, and racism is right….time for the obama machine to shut down.

Robert Gelzhiser

Because of assholes like you “MY” country that has used “IN GOD WE TRUST” since its beginning is being destroyed by “SUCKULAR” chicken shits like you. God created all of this, way before your out of touch 21st century ass wipes. You sound like someone that doesn’t know if you are an ADAM or EVE. So you are obviously a QUEER….!!!! Religious bias is not in the government, assholes like you are trying to put it there. Have someone read the Constitution and Bill of Rights to you. It gives Freedom of Religion. Believe what you want, just don’t try to cram your stupid beliefs down other peoples throats. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, I WOULD GUESS A QUEER PETDOPHILE GOAT SCREWING MUSLIM….!!!!

Reality Check

Sorry Robert, “IN GOD WE TRUST” was added in the 1950’s when everyone was afraid of Godless Commies.

“In God We Trust” is the official motto of the United States. It was adopted as the nation’s motto in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, which was adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.”

STOP LYING

Reality Check

ah the typical intolerant conservative ranting.
I must be gay and or Muslim if i disagree with the Religious wackadoodle.

so much HATE for America.
Land of the INTOLERANT and REPRESSIVE conservative Christians.

disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

You see NO BIAS in favor of Islam within this admin? You are the worst kind of fool, just enough education to be dangerous, yet perpetually “stuck on stupid”.

Debra

Amen !!!

UBBLUE15

There you you have it, folks. RC in a nutshell.
“Leave those kids alone”

Azabigail1

Libs, distorting the truth again. There ARE laws that were written over 200 years ago that are still relevant and applicable today, and if they would teach at least SOME of those laws to our kids they would have better results than they are having today.

Reality Check

You really think they are not learning the Constitution?

where do you silly people get this stuff?

would you like to try and prove some of this crap?

UBBLUE15

They are learning someone’s screwed-up INTERPRETATION of the Constitution. Hence, Common Core curriculum.

Reality Check

so up until now the interpretation of the Constitution was NOT based on what the teacher thinks?

are you really this shallow?

WTFUAMERIKA

If we don’t keep these Progressives away from our children this whole struggle of reclaiming our country will be for naught.
They’ve turned everyone 35 on down into their indoctrinated socially engineered useful idiot tools. Can you say Hitler Youth?

UBBLUE15

And Hitler referred to his government as “national socialism”…..

Reality Check

“Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he
actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At
first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in
the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part to enslave the
population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in part to wipe out
communism and ‘Bolshevism’
Hitler used the fear of socialism and communism as a way of terrifying middle and upper class Germans into supporting him.”

Don’t need links, your responses do the trick.
Follow: Hitler did refer to his government as “national socialism”. If he did this to instill fear into the german people, and it worked, more or less, how much more America should fear socialism and communism for what it is. Look at Russia.
Hitler used many groups to maintain and try to further his diabolical “dreams”. Reality is, he really could not name exactly what he was doing. Aryans? Germanic myths? Fascism (most acceptable in terms of definition).
And so it goes.

WTFUAMERIKA

Socialism,Communism,Fascism,Totalitarian,DictatorshipDemocratic are all the same thing. Just different extremes.
The reality in our country is Republican vs. Democrats are two different extremes of the same tyranny.
2016 It’s Death to the Establishment or Death to America. Your choice people. Lets kick some despotic butts huh?

PSSA

OK people,we need to get this common core BULLSHIT out of our schools NOW.If they don’t remove that BULLSHIT,WE teach our children about FIREARMS the proper way,THROUGH FIREARMS TRAINING!!!!!!
Any body object????????????

runnindeer

If Clinton gets near the White House kiss the right to have guns legally or otherwise good bye. Kiss Israel good by to for that matter.

Allan Stark

Leftist Democrat Liberals have been sneaking their slant on things into public school curricula since the Carter administration.

jsccats

Common Crud should be done away with and the Feds should get out of “education” altogether as well as NPR which are just outlets for left wing propaganda posing as “facts” whether in a text book or in an alleged “news” or “information” program. With open borders, inviting in terrorists and calling them “refugees”, and releasing criminals both illegal aliens and alleged “nonviolent offenders” not to mention an out of control government, now is not the time for the citizen to be disarmed! Any logical person should realize something is screwy when a criminal illegal with a long rap sheet and multiple deportations on his record can shoot and kill an innocent woman in an alleged “sanctuary city” using a gun stolen from a Federal agent (why someone from the Bureau of Land Management who apparently can’t secure his weapon properly had a gun in anti gun SF is another question all together) and should question this whole anti self defense, anti 2nd Amendment tirade going on!

This item sounds fishy. I am not aware that CC offers such a class. The focus has been on math, science and literature.

william g munson

Well they should show how to go to war and win with out Weapons and when that works well we will consider turning ours I guess

Lorraine E

Hitler said “give me the minds of the youth and you have given me the nation.” Hitler would be proud of the appointed president’s federal indoctrination centers. Hello Congress! Defund the illegal department of indoctrination and return the entire responsibility for education to the local level where it does a far superior job of educating students.

Fuck liberal teachers, professors, media cocksuckers & politicians. Carry your guns hidden & never show them off until the time comes to kill them all off!

John Gillis

Common Core is another tool of indoctrination. Generation by generation, the government is doing everything in its power to convince the young to give up their birthright.

The 1st and 2nd Amendments are NOT up for negotiation! The rights to free speech and arms ownership are SACROSANCT. Anyone who will tell you otherwise is fooling himself.

Mike

Common core is slanted teaching on everything, its and absolute disgrace to the teaching profession and should be stopped country wide. Start teaching what is going to be the most beneficial to the students and one VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT IS AMERICAN HISTORY – the real AMERICAN history, not the Democrats slanted view. The worst part is that it was the Democrats who were responsible for all the bad parts of history, for example it was the democrats who were the slave owners but you will never hear the admit to it. If you listen to them, they are the great emancipators but the reality is, it was the GOP more exact Pres Lincoln. Just like you hear illegal immigrants scream 14th amendment for citizenship of children born in the US but the law was for the children of slaves who were born in the USA ONLY, not anyone born in the US. Its amazing what people don’t know.

Reality Check

” Its amazing what people don’t know.”
Graphically demonstrated by YOUR POST.

BUT REALLY,
how shallow does a con have to be to reach back 200 years to go “SEE, they were bad then”, like THAT has bearing on today.

pathetic.

joe

ENOUGH!! NOT ONE CHANGE in the gun laws we WILL NOT TOLERATE IT they have plenty of laws already and criminals do not obey laws. FUC5 you to anyone that tries to change a single thing my right to own a gun does not come from government so they have no right to do ANYTHING that affects that right. And no one else has a right to say a damn word about it, if you do not like guns don’t buy one but try to take mine away and it will end very badly for you. The monkey in the whitehouse has one goal, dis arm the American public well monkey I got news for you that will NEVER happen so go jam it up your a55

Reality Check

“The monkey in the whitehouse has one goal, dis arm the American public ”

Well moron, I have news for you.

YOU are clueless.
maybe you can point to some politician who is talking about that?
don’t be stupid and point to Hillary.

joe

suck a dick

David in MA

Obama arms terrorists while trying to disarm the American people.
This is what all wanna-be dictators do.

absinthe

The nationalization of education is something all parents should resist. Reagan promised us that he would abolish the US Department of Education. Ditto Bush 41. It was a plank in Gingrich’s “Contract with America”, ca 1994, not a single plank of which was fulfilled, although the GOP controlled the power of the purse.

No one in my family goes to public school, not one would ever consider the possibility of public schooling. If I wanted my family to be Communists, we would have moved to Russia or China. Most public schools spend more on administrators and other “professional edu-ca-tors” than they do on teachers. And a damn sorry lot they are.

In my headier moments, I respond like Queen Victoria famously did to Arthur Balfour: “We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat.” We can begin by not abusing our children by sending them to Islamophilic public schools.

Liz

The Progressive Liberals see what you have done as a threat to their agenda. All my grandchildren have been home schooled and they plan to keep their children out of public school because of the same reasons you have stated but add if they wanted their children to be converted to Islam they would either take them to a Mosque or move to the Middle East.

Anonymous American

if Killary gets elected President, She is going to take everyone’s gun’s .

John B Taxpayer

We have the 2nd amendment to protect exactly against tyrannical thinking like this! Period!

Laddyboy

The anti-gunners have been pushing their agenda for close to 50 years now. When my daughter was in school, her teacher was espouting how bad guns are and people who have guns are “bad people”. My daughter responded to her; I love shooting guns. My father and family are going to go shooting this weekend. We will have a very good time. That teacher never mentioned anything about guns in that class for the rest of the school year.

Liz

Awesome

absinthe

Today begins black-powder day, bow & arrow was two weeks ago, rifle season not until November.

This is a big thing where I live. People live off deer meat all year long, These men and — yes! women! — will light a fuse under any asshole yankee trying to swipe food off their childrens’ tables.

edward martis

quikie—KQED is based in SFO—-that should explain pretty much everything; also referred to the Kommitee for Queer Educational Dis-information …….needless to say the Bay area is hard core communist and as been since 1968…….the American Communist Party–Northwest Region HQ can be found at 6501 Telegraph Av., Oakland (Berkeley city line-)—–I lived for awhile right around the corner——-Che and Fidel are gods there….

I don’t need the left to interpret the 2nd Amendment to me or my children. It’s why my son is home schooled. We operate on the truth here.

draidt

Common Core=Socialist Indoctrination

James Andrews

Just another strong reason to entirely gut Common Core!

scott

communists making communists.same as hitler and stalin

rchguns

.There’s absolutely nothing that common core teaches that is suitable for our young people. Just one more step to making our American youth as dumb as possible and if you can make them down you confuse the hell out of them.

The progressives in the social liberals cannot exist in a moral society or in a society that has educated individuals.

The average American under the age of 40 could not pass in American history exam if their life depended on it. And that’s encompassing the entire population. You going to the inner-city over 50% of the children don’t even graduate from high school and those that do can not read and understand their own diplomas. All you need to survive in the Hood is a knife and a gun and be part of a gang. Run drugs, about young girls, beat up old people who steal their Social Security checks, and mug anyone out after dark.

And every so often when you want to resupply your liquor cabinet, get a new big-screen TV, the latest Nike footwear you just arrange a neighborhood riot, destroy property and steal whatever you want after all that’s the only life they know and they thoroughly enjoy it. Just for yuks and giggles you go out and slept for some old lady-year-old man and brag about how you knock them out plus you also prove how much of an idiot you are they videotaping it and putting it on the net. Nothing but a bunch of worthless scum

Patriot47

Commie core is straight up indoctrination and revisionist history.

e111w

Over two centuries of curriculum and just now we have anti-Constitutional inclusions?

HardnoseMP

we live in the land of the free= the constitution dictates our rights=all these anti-gun liberal policies have been a complete failure=staring with the assault ban=which was also later dropped after the FBI said that it didn’t do anything, the “Gun free zones” established by the liberals has created a shooting zone for the crazies and mentally disturbed to kill our children, the should apologize for their actions !!!

swann2001

What our founding fathers and others, had to say about gun control
and freedom…

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is,
as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” —
Thomas Jefferson Papers (C.J. Boyd, Ed. 1950)

“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as they are injurious
to others.” -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia (1781-1785).

“I
ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public
officials.” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all
power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that
it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” -Thomas Jefferson.

“(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed which Americans possess
over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are
afraid to trust the people with arms.” -James Madison.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined
nor determined to commit crimes…Such laws make things worse for the assaulted
and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent
homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an
armed man.” -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria.

“Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual discretion…in private
Self-defense…” -John Adams, A defense of the Constitutions of the
Government of the USA, 471 (1788).

“…arms…discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as
well as property. …Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding)
deprived the use of them.” -Thomas Paine.

The british arent coming numbnuts. Ur biggest threat is other american gun owners. Muskets took a minute to load.

swann2001

I don’t worry about law abiding gun owners, but apparently you do. I would engage in a debate with you Tony, but that would be like fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

swann2001

Americans biggest threat is ISIS and Al Qaida and Russia and China and Iran and North Korea, but even more dangerous is the guy sitting in the oval office. Only he can try to disarm us before we have a chance to defend ourselves. He must disarm us and it will happen very soon, but millions won’t agree to be disarmed as the Jews were just before they were marched into the gas chambers. I will take my chances gladly with law-abiding heavily armed Americans over a power-hungry racist, gay, Muslim Communist. In my opinion, he may be mentally unstable and confused over what his duties as President should be. He should be concentrating on the economy, or the Middle East or what the Russians are up to in the Artic, any number of things a President has to consider to keep us safe, but he is involved with street politics, attacking Christians and the police.

I find no specifics are being used in CC. CC applies to math, science and reading. I am not aware that CC makes any such issue a part of curricula. A school could, on their own, submit such an exam question. But CC itself is focused on high standards for those in the above mentioned classes. If the question asked actually was not biased, as it certainly is, I would have no problem with it. Teachers make up their own class lesson plans as directed by the particular school. I am not aware of ant CC directive to use a certain lesson plan. So any such test question should come from the teacher, not CC. I am not a big fan of CC as it has its shortcomings. It does not go far enough in its suggestions for testing. I prefer tests that are all short essay questions. That results in students displaying their ability to solve problems a well as demonstrate their proficiency in communication.

Reality Check

this is an outside piece from NPR that this “media” is trying to pretend is part of CC.

Reality,
Gotcha. A distortion of the facts? OK if you say so. I say it is BS. We have discussed CC enough as well as the fact that I have also obtained material on what CC does and does not do. CC is NOT mandated by the government. It has its own rules. It is approved by the governor and legislature but is optional in all school districts. Most are using it but some do not. They have modified it to suit their particular situation. It does not seem to be feasible in very small school districts where one teacher is teaching six grade levels.

Reality Check

saying this is part of CC is the distortion.

It’s a piece made by NPR and distributed.
this “article” is the only thing that connects it to CC.

Reality,
If I were younger I would maybe take you up on that. One thing we have in common is BS on the internet. In my historical research I have to be on guard against it constantly.

Reddler

Questions students should be able to ask teachers for critical thinking.

1. If guns were banned in the US what would stop illegal guns from coming across the border as illegal drugs do now.
2. If laws are capable of stopping the flow of guns why was the ATF able to traffic illegal guns into Mexico considering Mexico has some of strictest gun laws of any nation?
3. If a ‘good guy’ with a gun is not a deterrent to a ‘bad guy’ with a gun why was the Secret Service formed after the assassination of Lincoln to protect the president and why does the president’s family now receive protection by the Secret Service if a ‘good guy’ with a gun does not effectively protect the president and his family from a ‘bad guy’ with a gun? Does the president need a police organization for protection considering it is almost 150 years old?
4. And the biggest questions anyone attending a school with a ‘no gun zone’ as the only means of protection should get an answer to is: Am I safe in this school with a ‘ no gun zone ‘ as the only means of protection for students and faculty? If the answer is “yes”, why have schools with ‘ no gun zones ‘ laws as the only deterrent to preventing a shooting been targeted by ‘bad guys’?

Reality Check

“1. If guns were banned in the US what would stop illegal guns from coming across the border as illegal drugs do now”
the kid would say:
SILLY CON teacher,
Mexico has strong gun control, that’s why the flow of weapons is the OTHER WAY.

Reddler

And the kid could respond; Did Mexico’s gun laws stop the ATF from trafficking guns into Mexico? Is the US the only country where guns are made? If the Us is not the only country in which guns are made what would stop guns from flowing into the US from the south as illegal drugs do now? Please answer SILLY CON teacher. I need info from both sides to make decisions.

Reality Check

First off silly con, the ATF didn’t traffic guns to Mexico.
Now sure why you think GW would set up such a program.

“what would stop guns from flowing into the US from the south as illegal drugs do now?”

you are silly and unaware of how markets work.
no demand means no market.

why smuggle in guns you can buy online?
that’s just silly talk from the ill informed.

Reddler

Have you ever bought a gun online?

” you are silly and unaware of how markets work.
no demand means no market.”

There is no market for guns or drugs? If guns were banned in the US would crime still occur? Is there still crime in Mexico or the UK or Australia or France or Brazil or …… even though there are laws against possession of a weapon? Are there still demands for drugs even though they are illegal?

Reality Check

“There is no market for guns or drugs?”

was I not clear? there are plenty of guns in the US. WHO would smuggle them in?

“If guns were banned in the US”

WHO IS SAYING THAT, silly con. I love the way you cons go from zero to NUTTY in one sentence.

Did you check out the site on business trader? …… Again is the answer “no”?

Reality Check

“Is there still crime in Mexico or the UK or Australia or France or
Brazil or …… even though there are laws against possession of a
weapon?”

Firs OFF, that is FACTUALLY Incorrect.
Australia and France allow weapons if you need one. Hunt if you want to hunt.

do they have a mass shooing every week?

for the past month, w youngster has shot another kid because there was a loaded gun around. Kid die, gun nuts don’t care.

In Florida, a kid drowned in a pool.
within the year, Jeb passed a law making a fence MANDATORY on all pools.

30,000 killed by guns every year and we do nothing.

Reddler

And most of 30,000 are suicides. Something you forgot?

Ayoub el-Qahzzani taking the AK47 was a no no in France. And wouldn’t it be interesting to know how many guns are smuggled into Australia since it is and an island.

Reality Check

2. If laws are capable of stopping the flow of guns why was the ATF able
to traffic illegal guns into Mexico considering Mexico has some of
strictest gun laws of any nation?

the student would say:
SILLY CON teacher,
everyone knows that Fast and furious was a program to catch Americans trafficking in guns to Mexico, the ATF never “trafficked” guns in Mexico. THAT is a Right Wing Talking point.

AND since you know Mexico has strict gun laws, WHY did YOU ask that first silly question?

Reality Check

“3. If a ‘good guy’ with a gun is not a deterrent to a ‘bad guy’ with a
gun why was the Secret Service formed after the assassination of Lincoln
to protect the president and why does the president’s family now
receive protection by the Secret Service if a ‘good guy’ with a gun
does not effectively protect the president and his family from a ‘bad
guy’ with a gun? Does the president need a police organization for
protection considering it is almost 150 years old?”

the student would say:

Are THESE TRICK questions?
they seem rather DUMB
Maybe these are for the dumb conservative class or maybe the kindergarten class.

then another student says,
since concealed carry people are everywhere and you don’t know about them, one would have to assume that there is someone with a gun everywhere.

THIS in turn leads the SMART people to conclude that the shooter is MOTIVATED by other things than WHO has a gun.
(must be a smart liberal kid)

Reddler

since concealed carry people are everywhere and you don’t know about them, one would have to assume that there is someone with a gun everywhere. ……. There are. The question is do they carry legally or illegally? Do you think the gang members going to school carry legally?
There is no such animal as a smart liberal, adult or kid.

Reality Check

I like the way you divert to the gang member poo cause you can’t get past my point.

but no cigar.

Essentially there is “someone with a gun” in every crowd, especially in today’s atmosphere of scared conservatives and Muslims.

at some point you gun nuts with an agenda, will stop using this ploy to further your cause to arm every person in America.

People shoot up places for A REASON, not because they think there are no guns.

Reddler

at some point you gun nuts with an agenda, will stop using this ploy to further your cause to arm every person in America.

Good, then Obama doesn’t need the Secret Service for protection. All he needs to do is pass a law by executive order declaring the US as a ‘no gun zone’ and everyone will conform, even criminals. … Right?

Does an underage gang member with a gun in a school possess the weapon legally? Does a person who possess a gun but can not pass a background check required to buy from a gun store possess a gun legally? Can they buy a gun off the black market or a straw purchase?

Do laws stop illegal activity?

Reality Check

“Good, then Obama doesn’t need the Secret Service for protection. All he
needs to do is pass a law by executive order declaring the US as a ‘no
gun zone’ and everyone will conform, even criminals. … Right?”

So being SILLY is your next defense for a silly theory?

Hinkly attacked Ronny Reagan knowing he had SS protection.
you “gun free zone” theory has so many holes, you have to be challenged to think it’s valid

Reddler

Do they work?

Reality Check

“Do laws stop illegal activity?”

Many seem to think so, we have plenty of laws.

lots of murder and I think we have laws against that.

Reality Check

4. And the biggest questions anyone attending a school with a ‘no gun
zone’ as the only means of protection should get an answer to is: Am I
safe in this school with a ‘ no gun zone ‘ as the only means of
protection for students and faculty? If the answer is “yes”, why have
schools with ‘ no gun zones ‘ laws as the only deterrent to preventing a
shooting been targeted by ‘bad guys’?

BUT TEACHER, the shooting in Oregon was NOT a gun free zone?
Columbine high school was not a “gun free Zone”, they had an armed guard.

those military bases were not “gun free zones”, there were several armed guards at each one.

WHAT are you talking about teacher?

Teacher, are you a wacky conservative?

Reddler

Teacher to student, ” You need to do homework tonight to find out what the laws were. ”

Umpqua Community College Wasn’t Exactly A ‘Gun-Free Zone’

The school did have policies prohibiting guns, but they wouldn’t apply to those with a valid permit.

Factcheck.org

By Eugene Kiely

Posted: 10/20/2015 04:28 PM EDT | Edited: 10/20/2015 04:31 PM EDT

The following post first appeared on Factcheck.org

In the wake of the mass shooting at an Oregon community college, Donald Trump and other Republican presidential candidates claimed that the school was a “gun-free zone.” That’s not exactly accurate.

Umpqua Community College does have policies prohibiting guns on campus, but they “would not apply to those with valid concealed weapon permits pursuant to Oregon law,” a college official told us.

The Oregonian, March 2, 2012: The Oregon Court of Appeals ruled in September that the board did not have authority to regulate guns through the use of an administrative rule. But the court also said the board has broad control over its property. So the board turned to the policy to keep guns off its campuses.

George P. Pernsteiner, who was chancellor of the university system and author of the weapons policy, told us in an email how the policy works.

“Basically, by registering to be a student, by being an employee, or by using a ticket to an event, the person had to agree not to bring a weapon — even if they had a concealed weapons permit,” Pernsteiner wrote. “Buildings were posted as not permitting weapons as a condition of entry into the building. But, as you note, a person with no relationship to the university but with a concealed weapons permit could have such a weapon while walking on and across campus grounds (university open spaces).”

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Teacher to student after the homework ; Do you think any of those students who were killed were carrying concealed guns? If you were threatened with you life by someone with a gun and you were armed would you defend yourself? If an employee agrees not bring a weapon bc it is a condition of employment where was an armed guard?

Jul 15, 2015 · … President Bill Clinton issued an executive order disarming soldiers on military bases … not been stopped earlier … on Army bases; rather, it …

… the U.S. Department of Defense issued a directive in February 1992 affecting the carrying of firearms on bases by military personnel. That directive was eventually implemented through a regulation 190-14 issued by the Department of the Army (not via executive order) in March 1993, just two months after President Clinton assumed office.

Additionally, that change in regulations (which applied only to the Army, not other branches of the U.S. armed forces) did not ban the carrying of weapons by soldiers on Army bases; rather, it restricted the authorization to carry firearms to personnel engaged in law enforcement and security duties, and to personnel stationed at facilities where there was “a reasonable expectation that life or Army assets would be jeopardized if firearms were not carried”:
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I couldn’t find info on Columbine, teacher. Where did you find info that Columbine had armed guards? Student, ” Teacher if there is shooting at our school are you armed to protect me or do I need to protect myself?”

in all of the cases you still can’t claim that they were gun free zones unless you suspend reality.

YES is legal to carry on the Oregon campus, so only the ignorant would consider that a gun free zone target.

same with the military base.
the general population is unarmed but there is plenty of armed security on the base.

why so disingenuous?

Reddler

“Basically, by registering to be a student, by being an employee, or by using a ticket to an event, THE PERSON HAD TO NOT AGREE TO BRING A WEAPON. —EVEN IF THEY HAD A CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT” Pernsteiner wrote. “ BUILDING WERE POSTED AS NOT PERMITTING WEAPONS as a condition of entry into the building. … ”

How much of a ‘no gun zone’ could students or employees be in?

Reality Check

nice link

Reddler

You should have read the links you gave me, thanks.
FACT CHECK: Columbine High’s armed guard saved …

SimilarDec 24, 2012 – FACT CHECK: Columbine High’s armed guard saved student lives … and had to drive around the campus to enter the parking lot where the …

The “National School Safety Shield” program proposed by the National Rifle Association has been criticized by some who claim that an armed guard in a school is ineffective. They cite, as proof, the Columbine High School shooting of 1999, during which an armed guard was on campus. Their argument is that the armed guard failed to make a difference, as 12 students and one teacher were killed.

However, a timeline of the events assembled by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department and published by CNN proves just the opposite. The armed guard, Jefferson County Sheriff’s Deputy Neil Gardner, was able to engage the killers, keeping them from shooting more victims, and he personally saved dozens of students.

Before looking at the facts of the case, first consider the line of reasoning used in the argument. Critics use a specific example (the Columbine tragedy) to make a general conclusion (armed school guards don’t help). It’s called inductive reasoning, and it is not a valid line of reasoning, because generalizations based on specific examples are easily disproved. For example, inductive reasoning would argue that because life-long smoker George Burns died of a heart attack at the age of 100 (the specific example), smoking is not hazardous to your health (the general conclusion).

In the case of the Columbine tragedy, the facts of the case disprove the conclusion that an armed guard did not help. At the time of the shooting, 11:19 a.m., Gardner was eating lunch in his car in the parking lot on the far side of the campus, away from where the shooting occurred. His parking space was near an area known as the “Smoker’s Pit,” and he used his lunch time to make sure students weren’t in the area smoking during their lunch period.

The Columbine shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, chose that time for the attack because they knew a number of students would be in and near the school cafeteria. They placed two bombs inside the cafeteria timed to explode, which they thought would force students to evacuate outside, where they were waiting. However, the bombs did not go off.

After the bombs failed to detonate, Harris and Klebold began shooting students eating lunch outside. Deputy Gardner was notified of the shooting by a custodian within three minutes of the first shot, and had to drive around the campus to enter the parking lot where the shooting took place. It took him two minutes to arrive. He confronted the shooters in the parking lot, about five minutes after the first shot was fired. Deputy Gardner exchanged fire with Harris and Klebold, which stopped the pair from firing at students. Gardner’s actions allow teacher Patti Nielson and student Brian Anderson (who were both shot at and injured) to escape and survive.

Even though Deputy Gardner exchanged shots with the pair, he was over 60 yards away, and the two ducked into the school without being hit. Gardner called for backup on his radio before taking a position outside as more officers arrived. Gardner did not follow the pair, as he helped dozens of fleeing students coming from the building..

Later, Gardner again exchanged gunfire with the pair as they shot from windows into the parking lot. He then saved the lives of 15 students in the line of fire as they hid behind a car. One at a time, he escorted them from cover to safety. About 45 minutes after the shooting began, both Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the school library. All of their victims were killed within the first 15 minutes of the shooting.

The contention that Gardner’s presence did not make a difference is not supported by the facts. He not only briefly stopped their assault on students, he made it possible for an untold number of students to escape the cafeteria and get to safety.

Gardner also never got a good chance to shoot either gunman, as they were never closer than 60 yards from him at any time. Officers who arrived on the scene also did not immediately enter the school, which allowed the gunmen to kill several more students. The Columbine incident changed how officers respond to school shootings; instead of waiting to assess the situation, officers now immediately enter the school.

Harris and Klebold also managed to delay the arrival of police by setting off a bomb a block from the school before the shooting began, which was meant to keep officers occupied. With Gardner also in another part of the large Columbine campus, it is wrong to assume he could not have made a difference had he been closer.

Reality Check

you are really committed to this “no gun zone” angle.
you have stock in gun manufacturers?

the shooters motivation is much more of a factor.
if you tried some critical thinking you could stop banging your head against the wall.

According to Lt. Nick Loussia, the confrontation began when the man
entered the lobby of police headquarters and a desk officer asked if he
could help him. The man then pulled out a handgun and pointed it at the
officer, who was behind protective glass. The man pulled the trigger,
but the gun did not go off, Loussia said.

The desk officer drew his handgun and told the suspect to drop his weapon, Loussia said. Other officers came to help and again ordered the man to drop his gun,
Loussia said.

Instead, the man pointed his gun at the officers, Loussia said.

“The officers then exchanged shots with the subject. The first responding
officer was shot once in the shoulder, the subject was shot several
times,” he said.

“The Communist Manifesto and Other Writings” by Bob Blaisdell
“Songs of the Open Road; Poems of Travel – 2 poems are the CC mandate, “The New Colossus” and “The Railway Train”. Themes in New Colossus: immigration, the new roles of women, patriarchy vs “Mother” , the “old” Colossus (Rhodes) represents oppression vs. “new” colossus (statue of liberty) which glorifies “endeavor”. An instructor could have a field day with these points.
Oscar Wilde’s “The Importance of Being Earnest”. Geared more to college freshman than high school . The typical public schooled student would have problems with comprehension of material so it’s for sure that “guidelines” (what we used to call “study guides”) would be provided.
Other authors are Poe, Twain, Walden, C. Bronte, Alcott, Austen, and Hawthorne which provide some really good reading, so it isn’t totally whacked.
Several poem anthologies and the K-1 “BOOST” curriculum of ABC’s, numbers, and science (an earth day book is mandated).
Many more books that are CC. Someone needs to do an analysis to find the differences between the CC mandated and those that are not recommended. What theme(s) show up the most.

Reality Check

nice link.

You know a con is lying when they just flap their gums

are you EMBARRASSED by your sources?

then why did you not post them?

UBBLUE15

I do not brake for links.
Here are my biased sources: Dover Publications and Sharp Notes. HaHaHahaha.
And the rest are my interpretations.
So you just called the books themselves and the Sharp Note scholars liars.
LOLOLOLOLOL.

Reality Check

I am calling YOU a liar, at least that is your history so far.

didn’t they teach you to reference your sources when you went to school?

UBBLUE15

Ok, this is boring. You are constantly accusative . Since I’m not writing a professional paper or term paper or book, I do not have to source anything. There are people bright enough here to research what they see fit.
The original post was merely pointing out SOME of the CC material and how an instructor could possibly slant a FEW of them.
For your assertion that CC is a local and state program, so what? Crap floats and it floats all the way down to states and localities.
So, in order to study the U.S. Constitution the students are required to read the Communist Manifesto and Mao? How long would a real study of the Constitution take, just it alone? The way most public schools go, a teacher is lucky to have 15 min. to actually teach. Since it is doubtful most of the students UNDERSTAND any part of the Constitution, since they cannot locate their state on a map, they can be wide open for suggestion, which doesn’t require much time, AS PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS HAVE CONFIRMED.
LOOK IT UP.
It all goes back to humanistic relativism that has taken over the schools.
Now, respond with name-calling and any other deflection.
Adios.

Reality Check

for example the disingenuous con lists this

This
concise anthology presents a broad selection of writings by the world’s
leading revolutionary figures. Spanning three centuries, the works
include such milestone documents as the Declaration of Independence (1776), the Declaration of the Rights of Man (1789), and the Communist Manifesto
(1848). It also features writings by the Russian revolutionaries Lenin
and Trotsky; Marat and Danton of the French Revolution; and selections
by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Emma Goldman, Mohandas Gandhi, Mao Zedong, and
other leading figures in revolutionary thought.
An essential
collection for anyone interested in the issues, ideas, and history of
the major revolutions of modern times, this book will prove an
enlightening companion to students of this genre. Includes a selection
from the Common Core State Standards Initiative: The Declaration of Independence. – See more at: http://store.doverpublications.com/0486424650.html#sthash.w31VOjK8.dpuf

pysco

Last year my grand children brought home a Common Core Survey, That had questions about guns, alcohol, drug use in the home… Also questions bout sexual preference was asked…. I took the survey to the principle, an requested that each teacher fill it out and make the information available to the parents….. After all we wanted to know about the background of those teaching our children…. Until I get that info on the teachers, I would not turn in any surveys….. To this day they have never got a survey….

Dane

My grandson’s class was told to write a paper answering the question, “Should babies with handicaps be allowed to be born”?! My grandson stunned even his teacher when he took this question to the next level…. Once an absolutely, perfectly healthy baby is allowed to be born; what happens if it “becomes” less than perfectly healthy? He wanted to know, “what happens, after this child has bonded with it’s parents and the parent’s have come to love their child…. who gets to make the decision as to the child’s future?” I applaud my grandson, he’s learned to think for himself BEFORE the nonsense question are even asked! Before I forget, it was at the age of 18 months that his parents learned that HE was autistic…. who gets to decide his fate?

Dane

My grandson’s class was told to write a paper answering the question, “Should babies with handicaps be allowed to be born”?! My grandson stunned even his teacher when he took this question to the next level…. “Once an absolutely, perfectly healthy baby is allowed to be born; what happens if it “becomes” less than perfectly healthy?” He wanted to know, “what happens, after this child has bonded with it’s parents and the parent’s have come to love their child…. who gets to make the decision as to the child’s future?” I applaud my grandson, he learned to think for himself BEFORE the nonsense questions are even asked! Before I forget, it was at the age of 18 months that his parents learned that HE was autistic…. so, who would the liberal left choose to decide my grandson’s fate? The question is horrific and sends shivers down my spine!!

jakethepup

The Socialists know they cannot change how patriotic adults support the Constitution but they also know they can easily brainwash our children and grandchildren. Future generation are being taught to hate America and hate the Constitution. Our kids are being taught that the 2nd Amendment is wrong, Christianity is Wrong, family is unnecessary and that government can take care of all our needs. Socialism is the new acceptable religion in America.

Reality Check

” Future generation are being taught to hate America and hate the Constitution.”

Where do you get THIS SHIT?
alex jones?
savage?

you must live in an evil state that lets thee things happen.

YOU may remember that YOU voted for the school board that CONTROLS what your kids learn

jakethepup

I do RC. I live in a state under completely democrat control. AND NO I did not vote for the school board members just like I didn’t vote for Obama.

Reality Check

i am glad you remember NOT voting.
so stop whining about what the people who got elected are doing.

rodrob43

Common Core is a Liberal method of indoctrination of our youth. The mathematics program is not all that great, and the history is really left-sided. The US was the cause of WWII. And gun control–wow they can really sink their teeth in that. Tell both sides of a story??? That’s not the liberal way.

Reality Check

Common Core does NOT provide lessons or lesson plans, ill informed conservative.

What ever is being taught to the kids has been decided BY the local and/or state school board.

CC is s set of standards that student should achieve and developed by the liberal state of Arizona.
(that was sarcasm by the way)

Dan

CC is a joke. Look at the STATISTICS. Where are we now on an educational standard compared to 25 years ago. Dumbed down to death.

Misconception #1: National standards and tests will make U.S. students more competitive with their global counterparts. Proponents argue that national standards will make American students more competitive with their international peers. They point to international evaluation measures such as the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS), in which American students rank in the middle of the performance distribution. Proponents note that countries that outperform the United States have national standards and that the U.S. needs national standards to move up in the ranking.[11]

But the relationship between existence of standards and strong educational outcomes is not clear. While the countries that outperform the United States on international tests have national standards, so do most of those countries that score lower than the U.S.[12] In further defiance of the hypothetical rule, Canada handily outscores the United States on international exams but has no national standards.[13] Even the relationship between the quality of state standards in the U.S. and academic performance is weak and inconsistent across subject areas.[14]

More careful attention is needed to understand the role that national standards play in other countries before asserting that national standards would add the same value in the United States. Alternatively, state standards and tests might be a closer analogy to standards and assessment systems in countries with populations the size of American states. There are limits to international comparisons in education given the size, diversity, and federal system of the United States.

Misconception #2: National standards are necessary so that parents can understand how their children’s academic achievement compares to that of other students across the country. The CCSSI claims that “the common core state standards will enable participating states to work together to make expectations clear to parents, teachers, and the general public.”[15] The case for national standards and testing, however, has neither addressed the question of why current tools are inadequate to inform parents about their children’s educational progress nor specified with much precision why Americans should expect the proposed system to improve the situation. Moreover, rather than making public schools more accountable to families, the new regime is likely to make them more responsive to the centralized scorekeeper. In this way, national standards and testing fail to address the critical problems of power and incentive structures in public education today.

What kind of information do parents need about their children’s educational performance? First, they need to know whether their children are mastering the curriculum content. State criterion-referenced tests, which measure a student’s mastery of the content outlined by state standards, currently supply this kind of information. Parents also need to know that when the state test determines that, for example, a child has mastered third-grade content, the child is keeping pace with third-grade students across the country. In other words, parents need to know how rigorous their state standards and tests are. To provide this information, some states also offer norm-referenced tests, which measure student achievement compared to other students nationally.

Another tool that can provide comparative information is the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), which is administered to a sample of students in each state. In this way NAEP provides an external “audit” and common gauge on the quality of state standards and tests.

The meaningful information that parents and other taxpayers need is already available. The tools already exist to supply straightforward information on student, teacher, and school performance—sometimes referred to as report cards on the school system. All states are currently required by the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) to create such report cards. Some states, such as Florida and Massachusetts, supply more detailed reporting and straightforward information than others. What has been missing in some other cases is transparency about that information. If access to information has been inadequate, that does not justify a national standards and testing regime. Rather, policies should insist on clear reporting of the essential data to parents and other taxpayers.

Public policy should also empower parents to act on that information. Providing information is important, but it does not go far enough to address the misalignment of power and incentives in public education. Parents not only need to know about their children’s educational standing, but also need the power to do something about it. In many states, parents lack any recourse to remove their children from underperforming schools.

If the relevant information to empower parents currently exists, does the U.S. need a new national standards and testing regime? According to advocates of new national standards and testing, existing tests are inadequate. NAEP holds no sway over teachers and students because results are not reported by schools or students. The curriculum-based exams developed at great expense by states in recent years are unacceptable, they say, because differences among the tests make national comparisons difficult.

These arguments show the considerable difference that a new national standards and testing system would make: It would empower the federal government. National comparisons are valuable for those who make national decisions; a national exam that has influence over curricula is a useful tool for national policymakers. National standards and assessments would provide an infrastructure and yield information that lines up neatly for federal interventions.

In the years since significant federal interventions in local education began in 1965, federal policymakers have sought more of the type of information that would equip centralized direction of education in America. During the development of NAEP in the 1960s, officials at the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare were eager to glean from the test results “more precise information on how well the nation’s schools are doing their job…to help Congress chart the future course of Federal school support.”[16]

“Federal school support” means centralized allocation of resources: In other words, “spread the wealth” goes to school. The kind of comprehensive, comparable data that a national test would supply is also a prerequisite for the liberal goal of creating an equal “opportunity to learn” and achieve to high standards through the equalization of resources among schools. Spending equalization, however, has not succeeded in raising student achievement, as the case of Kansas City shows.[17]

Despite the negative record, the Obama Administration’s “Blueprint for Reform” of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (No Child Left Behind) clearly aims for this goal, with numerous calls for “resource equity” among schools.[18] In this way as well, national standards and testing would provide the kind of information that empowers national policymakers and bureaucrats more than parents and other taxpayers.

Misconception #3: National standards are necessary because state standards vary in quality.Some states, such as Massachusetts, California, Indiana, and Virginia, have highly regarded standards. A number of other states have uneven quality of standards across subjects, and some are not up to par generally. Teachers union pressure, pervasive political correctness, and pedagogical and content disputes hamper the quality of state standards.

The variation in state standards is one of the most frequently cited reasons for adopting national standards and tests.[19] But the same pressures that detract from the quality of many state standards are likely to plague national standards as well. As a result, the rigor and content of national standards will tend to align with the mean among states, undercutting states with higher quality standards.[20]

For example, the Obama Administration’s proposal would force Massachusetts to abandon its highly regarded state standards and sign on instead to a set of national standards that are well beneath the rigor and content of the current state standards.[21] If it fails to do so, Massachusetts would stand to lose $275 million a year in federal funding for Title I.[22] For states like Massachusetts, the Obama Administration’s plan means facing the prospect of losing out on federal funding if they refuse to water down their standards.

Secretary of Education Arne Duncan refers to the varying quality of state standards as “50 different goal posts.”[23] That is a catchy phrase, but it begs the question of whether the national standards movement is more concerned with uniformity than it is with excellence. Uniform minimum-competency standards on a national level would provide a one-size-fits-all approach that would likely lead to decreased emphasis on advanced work and a generally dumbed-down curriculum.

Centralized standards and testing would eliminate the possibility of competitive pressure for increasing standards of excellence.

Why does the president have secret service? Its obvious unless ur a moron.
Does a good guy wih a gun, blah blah blah? Yeah every once in a while, not near as many deaths as family members shooting each other, or even school shoitings.

These debates are moronic. The govn is not coming to take ur guns, universal background checks should be a minimum. Among other things. You dont need them for tyranny, we wouldnt stand a chance. We need to stop filling cons minds with this crap or theyll never win another election. But keeping quoting faux news, and make ur voters dumber so theses idiot liberals can easily take over. Theyre has to be other people who see how stupid these political parties have become. Teachers wth guns now, idiots.

hstot

Common core is allowing the Federal Government to tell parents and teachers what what can be taught in classrooms. Governments who seek total control must indoctrinate the children.

capa760

The U.S. Constitution, with the Bill of Rights and the Amendments, with The Declaration of Independence are the sacred Documents of The United States of America, for all US citizens-natural born, and The US Department of Immigration adopted legally, after due process by the Official immigration Officials according to the
Laws, not by a phone and pen in TREASON. The Democrats in violation of our Docu-
ments have rewritten the American History Books of lies and are teaching anti-Ameri-can weirdo junk. It is ridiculous to allow a corrupt cheating 2012 Presidential Election
and to not VOTE TREASON for Obama and his gang of Communist’s CRIMES. But
look to REID, PELOSI, CLINTON, McCONNELL, BOEHNER, the Supreme Court, who have all done nothing to STOP the Crimes in Office, Broken OATHS OF OFFICE, etc. Where are the American Patriots……… we can see the guilty, and the
SHARIA Foreign LAWS illegally in AMERICA…..and OBAMA equipping ISIS for their
crimes of murders.

livefree1200cc

Its up to us to teach our kids that the school is only there to control them and mold their minds for the state. They are forced to attend. We need to take the time to talk to our children and teach them what they need to know – because the schools won’t. Homeschooling is the best option.

Lorraine E

Hello Congress! Defund the illegal federal dept. of indoctrination (used to be education) and return the entire responsibility to the local levels where students can be EDUCATED.