last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.

I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.

I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.

He's a nice guy to have but top 10. Not going to happen. I'd be happy if he got his ERA under 4.

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.

I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.

Ya, they're all at least in the same tier and all the same caliber IMO. Not sure if Bonderman is totally outright in front of them but I Think that's the pack of guys he should be ranked around.

You can have him. He has shown some pretty good ability but he has also shown absolute crap, which is why he ends the year with a high 4's ERA and a crap ratio. Not to mention his K/9 really dropped off last year. He hasn't proven a thing and just looks to me like one of those guys that gets overhyped every year.

I'll take a look at him when his ERA gets closer to 4 than 5 and his ratio can drop below 1.30.