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As I said in my previous comment (which you apparently didn't read), I dislike all intolerant violent groups. That includes Antifa which some people here seem to be comfortable allowing in the stadium because their politics are not "right wing." That's a slippery slope that makes it easy for other people to justify allowing other violent groups in the stadium because they share their political views.

As for the history of fascism, you may be uncomfortable with it but facts are stubborn things. Mussolini started it and mussolini was socialist. Your point about hitler is absolutely correct but also not relevant (my fault - my comment about him wasn't particualrly clear and open to misinterpretation). That doesn't mean socialists support fascism any more than any "right wing" person would support all groups or people on the right wing. It's just not that simple.

Coming full circle, this is why I'be said discussing politics in the context of this forum is problematic. Too many people here are making sweeping generalizations that are inappropriately inclusive of people or misrepresent their views. The minute you introduce words like "right-wing" into the conversation about fascism you are lumping in a whole lot of people that you shouldn't.

And saying that one violent group should be tolerated because they aren't "right wing" is absurd. You want to fight the fascists? I'll lead the charge with you. But not in our damn stadium.

So stop discussing it. If you have notions that Fascists and Nazists are not considered far right today, you are just wrong. No where did I say that someone that is right wing would support all groups or people on the right wing.

Any group that condones violence towards opposing views should not have a place in our supporters section. But hey, I still hear puto being yelled at opposing keepers, so maybe everyone can just crap all over the other. Everybody is equal until you disagree with them.

Any group that condones violence towards opposing views should not have a place in our supporters section. But hey, I still hear puto being yelled at opposing keepers, so maybe everyone can just crap all over the other. Everybody is equal until you disagree with them.

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Shouting Puto and condoning violence should not be considered equal though.

Shouting Puto and condoning violence should not be considered equal though.

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It's not. I'm just making a separate point.

Problem is ill-informed people (especially young people) think it's "cool" to identify with Antifa and have no idea what it is. I'm surprised that the supporters groups and stadium would allow a extreme far left anarchist group to fly their flag. If it was some far right propaganda it would've been shut down immediately.

first they take heading out of soccer.
then they take the puto goal kick chant out of soccer.
then they added VAR and still fuck up.
whats next... making crowds silence during 90 minutes like its the pga tour?
the PC shit is getting out of hand.

I do find it a little weird that national flags other than USA/Canada if we are playing them are allowed in the stadium at all.

Like, you couldn't have a giant flag of a religious symbol - but if it's on a flag of a country, it's fine apparently. And it obviously lets a lot of political stuff in by a sort of backdoor. I'd be fine if they banned that stuff TBH since I don't think it leads anywhere good. Efforts to decide which flags are political statements etc. will only cause more problems.

I think we've mostly been well behaved in the thread but a couple people might be on too many layers of irony for me.

Problem is ill-informed people (especially young people) think it's "cool" to identify with Antifa and have no idea what it is. I'm surprised that the supporters groups and stadium would allow a extreme far left anarchist group to fly their flag. If it was some far right propaganda it would've been shut down immediately.

Because apparently it wasn't clear my comments are/were in jest. This entire thread is a cancer.

ETA: To be clear i dont support racism on the pitch or anywhere in any way shape or form. Nor do i support any kind of violence or bullying in any way shape or form. I thought it was pretty clear i was being sarcastic but i guess not.