Multiple red flags from the vagueness of the listing and how it tells you exactly what it is not:

Points to note about this business:

NOT MLM (Multi Level Marketing)
No Cold Calling
No Home parties or hassling friends
No storing of inventory
No spamming – we do not send unsolicited emails

But.... it doesn't say what they actually do, or what they sell, or what they plan to possibly sell.

The active links on the page: achievesuccesstoday.ca include a FB page with the typical generic motivational images and links to private LinkedIn and Twitter pages for a one Breda Pickering.

There's nothing on google showing up and the nearest match was for the Achieve Community, which is how I actually found this site

Had a look through that thread and the name Breda Pickering, doesn't appear once so it might be total coincidence.

The only other thing on the site is SoYouWantSuccess with an 11min video, full of positivity and vagueness for the two founders Shane & Rachael and 'the product', which is never explained.

I'd be interested to see if anyone has heard of this exact company or model and what they're trying to sign people up for.

Thankfully the traditional MLM type models have all but died out in Ireland, with the advent of social media and the ones based off of the DS-Max MLM all had to go legit, with the reputation they earned.

The likes of HerbaLife and detox teas never caught on and there's only a handful of Avon ladies still about.

But I do remember vagueness, constant name and location changes being a very common pattern, along with lots of red-herrings on google to try and prevent people from looking them up.

To find out if the contact information is open or private a search of Whois Canada would be needed. My bet is on the information being set to private and only a paid service is used for contact information.

Their website is all fluff using stock photo's in their testimonials. You can click on their products and all you get is a lot more fluff with no real substance but plenty of hype. I am sure the products deal with personal development just based on how they word things. Nothing of substance, but the lure of making you want to know more so they can call you to get their hooks in you. Your only contact is either email or calling them. No information about the people behind this company, no bios, and they promise to call you within 48 hours of your inquiry wanting to know more via email. I'm sure if you call them, you will get the pitch immediately, unless you have to leave your number for them to call you back.

When a company does not disclose who they are, who are the leaders, specifically state what their products are, have an address, tell you where they are registered to do business, and if required licensing, stay away. It is a con designed to separate you from your money with nothing to show for it when you finally give up.

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Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

Originally Posted by IrishUser

But.... it doesn't say what they actually do, or what they sell, or what they plan to possibly sell.

It's only going to cost you $997 to find out, with all the money you'll be making that's a drop in the bucket. I watched the YouTube video which was uploaded four years before the website came on line, if that isn't convincing what is? The whole 6 minutes was gushing from folks hand selected from Fiver about how they're losers no more.

Work From Home - Flexible hours
Turn Key, Home Based, On-Line Business Opportunity.

Join our award-winning global company based in the Success Education and Personal Development industry, servicing customers in more than 50 countries around the world. If you want to make significant changes in your life and income stream - this is for you!

The Business:

Work from the comfort of your home, using your phone and Internet.

We have a proven formula for success, partnered with great business systems and a very successful lucrative income opportunity.

Benefits of this business:

• Ultimate Freedom - You chose where and when you work.
• Turnkey business – quick and easy set-up - you have the ability to start producing an additional stream of income within days.
• Valuable ongoing training and mentoring
• Part-time or full-time - the choice is yours.

If you can follow a simple and easy business model, then this is the business for you.
Your daily activities will include placing simple ads online, conducting brief scripted interviews via telephone, investing time in training and mentoring others, and of course concentrating on your own personal development.

The sooner you start, the sooner you can start earning.

We seek talented professionals who have the desire to make a difference in their direct community & around the world.
Learn from successful entrepreneurs in a supportive & fun environment. Potential to earn an executive level income from home.

Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

I got the impression that this is her website to recruit people so she could get back her investment and not the parties behind this program.

By the way, remember Kevin Trudeau's Nouveau Tech Society? Well, it's back but now going by the name "The Society." It is a word-for-word copy of Kevin's scam back years ago. Got the letter in the mail yesterday. Sadly there will be a lot of people who fall for this because they weren't around when Kevin did it the first time. Still got a good chuckle out of reading the letter and how I am so special with all these important people, unnamed of course, who have been watching me.

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Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

This thread was brought to my attention by a client of mine.

I am a little confused by the content contained in this thread.

I responed, in August 2017 to an advertisement, followed through the process and I took about a week or so to decide was this the Bussiness Opportunity for me or not? There was NO pushy sell. I decided YES a few months ago (September 2017) and I can inform readers of this thread that this BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY is not a scam. Far from it, in fact, Achieve Success Today through Ms. Pickering has provided me FREE OF CHARGE with hours of online training with on-line advertising placements, which work.

I can only assume working in the on-line Personal Development industry, with the opportunity to travel to Sales Conferences around the globe does NOT appeal to the people who have posted negatively in this thread. Actaul facts are vague and unqualified. The business opportnity is real, the business is NOT a scam and the mentoring and on-going sales support valuable.

Yes, its hard work. There are no FREE lunches. But the financial rewards are there, they are real and the process sells itself.

I am at a loss as to how and why people who have posted on this thread have the opinions they have. Did any of them actually go through the process because my experience was excellent, entirely the opposite. The idea of vagueness with the ad is to promote curiosity and make you think. The process is NOT pushy, the entry level cost to start what is in effect a turn key business is low.

If you want a business with zero start up costs. You want a job, NOT A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY advert.

If you are afraid of hard work then you will be negative to most things in life. I am NOT afraid of hard work, maybe people who have posted on this thread are.

"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people" - H. L. Mencken

Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

Originally Posted by Dublin18

This thread was brought to my attention by a client of mine.

Which would be the first problem. Why would a "client" of yours care about an ad unless your "business" is pushing said ad as an affilate? I'm partial to the 70% rule myself, but only if an "opportunity" is tangible product based. Motivational woo needs to approach 100% of people not in the the opp. Without proof of actual retail sales to non-affiliates I'm going with illegal pyramid.

I'm a little confused about your bellyaching about the content without providing one iota of content. Your post read more like a second ad with a little we must all be losers tossed in.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

I can inform readers of this thread that this BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY is not a scam. Far from it, in fact, Achieve Success Today through Ms. Pickering has provided me FREE OF CHARGE with hours of online training with on-line advertising placements, which work.

What business opportunity, the opportunity to sell others on the opportunity? This open minded gal will give people my blessing, do the free stuff. Then explore how much of that you could have found on the internet for well let's call it free.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

I can only assume working in the on-line Personal Development industry, with the opportunity to travel to Sales Conferences around the globe does NOT appeal to the people who have posted negatively in this thread.

Not in the least, I spent years traveling for business. After a while it sucks ass, and that was staying in great hotels and eating fine meals. If I had to pitch garbage to down and out suckers in 2 star hotel conference rooms and eat out of vending machines I would have hung myself long ago.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

Actaul facts are vague and unqualified. The business opportunity is real, the business is NOT a scam and the mentoring and on-going sales support valuable.

So you keep saying while remaining vague and without qualification of your premise.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

But the financial rewards are there, they are real and the process sells itself.

If it sells itself, why did your "client" have any concerns?

Originally Posted by Dublin18

I am at a loss as to how and why people who have posted on this thread have the opinions they have. Did any of them actually go through the process because my experience was excellent, entirely the opposite. The idea of vagueness with the ad is to promote curiosity and make you think. The process is NOT pushy, the entry level cost to start what is in effect a turn key business is low.

I've formed my opinions based on years of exploring bullshit opportunities as a hobby. Your continued vagueness confirms my suspicion in spades. First impressions and all that.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

If you want a business with zero start up costs. You want a job, NOT A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY advert.

Most people would be better off with a job, period. Many business owners if they make it earn about what a they would earn at a job, only they work longer hours. Then you have to factor in the stress that comes from running your own deal.

Frankly most people I find that criticize jobs are nothing more than woo peddlers preying on the disenfranchised. IMVHO most these folks would be better off getting a second JOB until they are out of the hole rather than waste precious time and money on unsubstantiated nonsense.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

If you are afraid of hard work then you will be negative to most things in life.

Actually, if you are afraid of hard work you will probably pay for nonsense like this routinely. Doxing negativity and mystical thinking supposed to cure everything is a tool of the snake oil peddler. Hardly a serious reason to plunk down cash.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

I am NOT afraid of hard work, maybe people who have posted on this thread are.

Unlikely on both counts. Still doesn't mean you proved your case, but thanks for necroing the thread.

SCAM TACTIC #1:
Make sure you focus on a hopeful yet sort-of-dumb crowd.

SCAM TACTIC #2:
Show them how badass your life is through pictures!

SCAM TACTIC #3:
Tell people they “deserve” a certain lifestyle.

SCAM TACTIC #4:
Don’t EVER get into the specifics of how you make money….just give business-y sounding advice!

SCAM TACTIC #5:
Always show HUGE numbers, no matter how irrelevant they are.
SCAM TACTIC #6:
Don’t give any ACTUAL helpful information, just talk about the end benefits of it!

SCAM TACTIC #7:
Be ultra-aggressive when you sell because you won’t see these people ever again.

Multiple red flags from the vagueness of the listing and how it tells you exactly what it is not:

But.... it doesn't say what they actually do, or what they sell, or what they plan to possibly sell.

The active links on the page: achievesuccesstoday.ca include a FB page with the typical generic motivational images and links to private LinkedIn and Twitter pages for a one Breda Pickering.

There's nothing on google showing up and the nearest match was for the Achieve Community, which is how I actually found this site

Had a look through that thread and the name Breda Pickering, doesn't appear once so it might be total coincidence.

The only other thing on the site is SoYouWantSuccess with an 11min video, full of positivity and vagueness for the two founders Shane & Rachael and 'the product', which is never explained.

I'd be interested to see if anyone has heard of this exact company or model and what they're trying to sign people up for.

Thankfully the traditional MLM type models have all but died out in Ireland, with the advent of social media and the ones based off of the DS-Max MLM all had to go legit, with the reputation they earned.

The likes of HerbaLife and detox teas never caught on and there's only a handful of Avon ladies still about.

But I do remember vagueness, constant name and location changes being a very common pattern, along with lots of red-herrings on google to try and prevent people from looking them up.

Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

Originally Posted by Dublin18

Having gone away and thought about the comments contained in this thread.

Anyone reading your withering comments can see you are no less vague than the come on ad that got this thread started. Maybe think a little harder and stay away until you can provide facts why AchieveSucessToday.ca isn't what we say.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

They are only opinions based on what? Opinions count for nothing as that is what they are opinions. NOT FACTS.

Really, opinions count for nothing? I guess next your going to say experience doesn't count for anything? My opinion is if I jump from a 50 story building it will lead to my death. This is based on reading about the experiences of others that did similar.
According to your illogical nonsense only my jumping would make my opinion a fact.

In the case of AchieveSucessToday.ca we would have to lose money then we would be qualified to call it a scam? Following your illogical tripe a little further, it would be better for people to listen to the "fact" someone fell for a scam than the opinion of people deft enough to avoid it altogether.

Originally Posted by Dublin18

Responding to posts by dissecting them with quotes actually does NOT provide anything other than more opinion.

The Franchise and Business Opportunity Rule requires franchise and business opportunity sellers to give consumers a detailed disclosure document at least 10 days before the consumer pays any money or legally commits to a purchase. The document must include:

the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of other purchasers;
a fully-audited financial statement of the seller;
the background and experience of the business's key executives;
the cost of starting and maintaining the business; and
the responsibilities of the seller and purchaser once the purchase is made.

In addition, companies that make earnings representations must give consumers the written basis for their claims, including the number and percentage of owners who have done at least as well as claimed.

In addition, companies that make earnings representations must give consumers the written basis for their claims, including the number and percentage of owners who have done at least as well as claimed.

Huh, I could be wrong but this AchieveSucessToday.ca "business" looks more like a funnel to promote someone else's "business". Not really clear, maybe Dublin when you finish tinking you can fill us in.

Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Huh, I could be wrong but this AchieveSucessToday.ca "business" looks more like a funnel to promote someone else's "business". Not really clear, maybe Dublin when you finish tinking you can fill us in.

Re: AchieveSucessToday.ca - vague

Where did Dublin18 go? I thought he was going to come back and "prove" to us how we all got this wrong and his facts would destroy our "opinions." Reminds me of Steveshaw who came to RS and called us all kinds of really cool names and then when challenged to put facts behind and prove us wrong, he disappeared into the night and hasn't returned either. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

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Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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