Mugato:baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

Maybe because most comic creators and their readers are men? Men who seem to have a somewhat... conflicted attitude toward women.

Mugato:baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

1) Disney owns Marvel now.2) Disney has no shame in releasing ANYTHING straight-to-DVD if it might pull in a few pennies.

I wouldn't rule out any character, no matter how silly or obscure, from eventually getting their own feature. The Mouse House is going to ride the superhero craze as long as it can, and to keep it aloft, they're going to require a steady supply of fresh characters to burn for fuel.

sn0wblind:unfortunately first thought that came to mind is this world currently does *not* need any more comic-based movies. It's so over-done these days in all sense of media./maybe alone on this one

i would argue that the comic book media NEEDS the tv/movie versions to maintain an audience. how many ten year olds today do you think save their allowance to buy the latest incredible hulk comic? seems they're marketing the movies/tv shows to draw the younger audience to the print versions...

cynicalminion:sn0wblind: unfortunately first thought that came to mind is this world currently does *not* need any more comic-based movies. It's so over-done these days in all sense of media./maybe alone on this one

i would argue that the comic book media NEEDS the tv/movie versions to maintain an audience. how many ten year olds today do you think save their allowance to buy the latest incredible hulk comic? seems they're marketing the movies/tv shows to draw the younger audience to the print versions...

It's kind of true. Also it's a shift in the medium. Comic books can't compete with things like webcomics that offer essentially the same thing for free online. Also you can pirate it, but it's fundamentally more than that. However, DC and Marvel still have some of the best artists and writers in that world in their hand. You can't come up what they can come up with. They're better than you at that game.

So, by transferring the characters faithfully to the screen and animation, you grant them a new lease on life because cartoons and movies have never been more popular.

doglover:cynicalminion: sn0wblind: unfortunately first thought that came to mind is this world currently does *not* need any more comic-based movies. It's so over-done these days in all sense of media./maybe alone on this one

i would argue that the comic book media NEEDS the tv/movie versions to maintain an audience. how many ten year olds today do you think save their allowance to buy the latest incredible hulk comic? seems they're marketing the movies/tv shows to draw the younger audience to the print versions...

It's kind of true. Also it's a shift in the medium. Comic books can't compete with things like webcomics that offer essentially the same thing for free online. Also you can pirate it, but it's fundamentally more than that. However, DC and Marvel still have some of the best artists and writers in that world in their hand. You can't come up what they can come up with. They're better than you at that game.

So, by transferring the characters faithfully to the screen and animation, you grant them a new lease on life because cartoons and movies have never been more popular.

cynicalminion:doglover: cynicalminion: sn0wblind: unfortunately first thought that came to mind is this world currently does *not* need any more comic-based movies. It's so over-done these days in all sense of media./maybe alone on this one

i would argue that the comic book media NEEDS the tv/movie versions to maintain an audience. how many ten year olds today do you think save their allowance to buy the latest incredible hulk comic? seems they're marketing the movies/tv shows to draw the younger audience to the print versions...

It's kind of true. Also it's a shift in the medium. Comic books can't compete with things like webcomics that offer essentially the same thing for free online. Also you can pirate it, but it's fundamentally more than that. However, DC and Marvel still have some of the best artists and writers in that world in their hand. You can't come up what they can come up with. They're better than you at that game.

So, by transferring the characters faithfully to the screen and animation, you grant them a new lease on life because cartoons and movies have never been more popular.

HBO is interested in doing Sandman. If the planned American Gods adaptation, they and Gaiman are developing gets picked up and does well, they'll almost certainly want to follow it up with his best known work.

Snapper Carr:cynicalminion: doglover: cynicalminion: sn0wblind: unfortunately first thought that came to mind is this world currently does *not* need any more comic-based movies. It's so over-done these days in all sense of media./maybe alone on this one

i would argue that the comic book media NEEDS the tv/movie versions to maintain an audience. how many ten year olds today do you think save their allowance to buy the latest incredible hulk comic? seems they're marketing the movies/tv shows to draw the younger audience to the print versions...

It's kind of true. Also it's a shift in the medium. Comic books can't compete with things like webcomics that offer essentially the same thing for free online. Also you can pirate it, but it's fundamentally more than that. However, DC and Marvel still have some of the best artists and writers in that world in their hand. You can't come up what they can come up with. They're better than you at that game.

So, by transferring the characters faithfully to the screen and animation, you grant them a new lease on life because cartoons and movies have never been more popular.

HBO is interested in doing Sandman. If the planned American Gods adaptation, they and Gaiman are developing gets picked up and does well, they'll almost certainly want to follow it up with his best known work.

Mid_mo_mad_man:. If any heroine should get a movie I want to see a X-23 movie

YES! That is one that I always dream of seeing. Since they finally in her last solo run got her out of the shadow of Wolverine (and was the best book Marvel was printing at that moment.) I would be there opening night.

Mugato:baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

Fine. Get me started, whydoncha... (I'll just add Pym Particles to the parts that would make this post take up way too much space then, shall I?)

I'd love it if Mayday Parker could have her own movie, series or movie series, but hell, I'd love it if she just came back at all. Thing is, they could do it, even with the crap that's gone down in the Spider-Man continuity, and possibly even make her more badass in the process; that she's the Superior Spider-Girl, from the future where Doc Ock stays (which I'm assuming will NOT be the 616 future) and after losing a leg (and possibly taking Tony Stark's place as the go-to techie of the Avengers/MU), decides to settle down with MJ and raise a family of overachieving spider-powered brainiacs. It could pretty much be a Great Responsibility/Karma kind of story like Spidey's, only where she's raised in wealth and privilege and comes to discover that her dad's mind was reprogrammed with Doc Ock's twenty years ago and therefore she's the daughter of a supervillain/superhero and a supermodel. Then follows the same sort of arc of discovering who she is and who the real Peter Parker was, with Kaine and the rest all along for the ride.

I disagree that Wasp is just a team player to be overlooked. Sure, she hasn't had her own ongoing comic series, and she's best paired with her best nemesis/soulmate, Hank Pym, but she's the catalyst for a crap-ton of stories that became very big deals in the Marvel Universe. Heck, she even became a universe after Hank did that Pym Particle other-dimensional body-snatch and secret base thingie.

Dazzler? Yeah, no. Although if Joss Whedon wanted to, he could have her show up for the musical episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..

Hellcat was awesome in her mini-series and in some of the other recent appearances, but it's almost like she was a sidekick in search of a hero when she was created. Take away some of the stylized art, the more outrageous turns of story and her Sex In The City relationship/marriage problems and an ex who's the son of Satan, and she's a woman in a stripped-down first-edition Wolverine costume with (originally) no real superpowers other than a keen fashion sense, some bad relationship baggage and a resulting bit of mental instability. Making her a model-turned-nutjob Kick Ass-type might work, but whatever they do with her, with big-budget movies you have to have a point to make, and in Marvel Cinemaverse movies you have to not only have the immediate story but a bigger picture story to fit into. Hellcat doesn't have either in the comics at the moment.

She-Hulk deserves a movie presence. She's becoming kind of the Grand Old Lady of female Marvel heroes since she's had so much exposure and titles of her own, but again, having her show up first in AoS as a lawyer hired to fix a liability issue with some damage done by Coulson and company or as part of a cleanup for a Hulk incident, then having her being a cousin of Bruce Banner leading into her genetics being right to get Hulkified in some guest appearance or whatnot would work to get her into the continuity without too much stress. Of course, Whedon is good at hanging a lantern on things that stretch credulity or making the highly unlikely seem perfectly rational, so maybe it's just having the right person attached to the project from the top that would do it. I'd like it if she could somehow be the John Byrne She-Hulk, with the fourth-wall awareness like Deadpool, but maybe that would play as too camp. Also, she's still a giant, muscular supermodel with a sharp, snarky mind and green skin, which itself is a bit hard to justify, let alone write for, in a mainstream context, and would lead to miscasting or bad SFX or both very easily. I just don't want Shulkie as a character to be harmed by a bad movie, is all. Maybe they could start with the Red She-Hulk, who could be in a Hulk movie where the Leader and certain HYDRA hangers-on brainwash Doc Samson and use him and an Extremis variant to create the Red Hulks. Then once the Hulk kicks everyone's ass enough to break the mind-control, and Banner's cousin gets terribly injured somehow in the process, they can reveal that Samson had already determined that a genetic component of Banner's coupled with someone who was without latent psychotic rage (say over witnessing the murder of their mother by their father when they were only a small child or having lost their career over multiple failures to contain and recapture the Hulk or having been nearly killed and emotionally tortured by the struggle between a boyfriend/husband who periodically turns into a giant green engine of destruction and a father who wants to kill/enslave/dissect said boyfriend/husband) plus the specific gamma-augmented super soldier formula with a few small adjustments could make a stable super-metabolic Hulk type, and hoocha-hoocha-hoocha: Lobster.

Spider-Woman, much as I love several versions of the character, would be hard to put on screen because the public would think it was a porn parody. Until they saw the character on-screen in a movie version of her costume, that is. Then they'd know it was a porn parody. Or crap. Or both. I'd like to see Jessica Biel in a Spider-Woman outfit, though. Or Gemma Arterton. Or Shakira.

Jessica Jones was a fill-in for Jessica Drew when the Secret Invasion torpedoed the plans the writers had already been drawn up for her, all of which were too good to let go of. The movie universe doesn't need to follow that, so either merge them or separate them further and give them each more importance in the scheme of things. And I hate to say it, but after Alias and the Luke Cage and motherhood thing, JJ seems more likely. Actually, they could have had the lead character in Alias be Patsy Walker instead, and it would have worked, too. That means Hellcat and Spider-Woman could be Jessica Jones' virtual mothers. Maybe Jessica has two mommies.

So that leaves U.S. Air Force Captain Carol Danvers, and TFA gets it right with Katee Sackhoff, although she might not want to do a Starbuck with superpowers, even if there isn't much else to associate the two characters other than being tough, blonde female pilots who got their names from a male original and who struggle with self-awareness and self-worth before finally accepting their cosmic significance. You know, nothing to compare there. As far as actors, there are others who could do the role some degree of justice and not have that ghost floating overhead, though I suspect that will be an issue with whomever they cast. But in order to make her backstory and her taking the name Captain Marvel (unless they make it her pre-existing fighter pilot call sign) they should introduce Mar-Vell and even if they don't there should be some unknown, alien origin for her powers which means introducing the Kree, potentially Yon-Rogg, and/or the Psyche-Magnitron. They could come up with some other non-Kree backstory, such as the Cosmic Cube/Tesseract, the Chitauri, or have some other aliens come to menace the planet and end up imprinting powers on her, but in the 616 origin she starts as a cross-gender exploit of the male hero and in-continuity fights with herself that maybe that's all she really is, going through hell and dependency issues to discover that she's more than just a knockoff that's unworthy of the name, she's maybe the one that was meant to be Captain Marvel and Mar-Vell maybe was just the foreshadow. That's a lot to put on a plate, let alone in one movie. Maybe after Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers II and AoS leads her in a bit there'll be room for a central role on the big screen.

Then again, any of them, with proper lead-in, casting and water-testing could sustain a movie, methinks. It'd just be a shame to jump any of them into a movie that flops and takes the character with it.

RoxtarRyan:A Black Widow/Hawkeye movie would be better. No one character fills the screen 100% of the time, Avengers already hints at their having a background working together, and the actors seemed like they had decent chemistry. To me, it's a no-brainer. Marvel covers two origin movies at once, so they reduce their risk of having two flops, and if it works, they can do sequels for each individual character.

Forget the origin story BS. Go ahead and make it a sequel. Give them a couple guest appearances on SHIELD and then let them carry a movie.

You don't need to spend a full 60-90 minutes on back story. You can do a couple flashbacks if you want, or a couple short sequences at the beginning. Did Michael and Fiona on Burn Notice need a big huge origin story tale? No, you can do it with some short sequences and flashbacks and get it done. Keep the story moving forward!

You're right that they had chemistry, and you're right that it's a no brainer. I'm surprised it's not already happening.

Well, maybe not an origin story... but at least maybe a few of the missions the two have participated in that they were joking about in the Avengers, explain what their history of working together was like. Iron Man? Captain America? Hulk? Most people are at least semi-knowledgeable about who those guys are. Black Widow and Hawkeye? Not so much... Speaking for myself, of course.. It'd be interesting, at the least.

Mugato:baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

The studios also cocked those movies up as well

Catwoman the movie resembled Catwoman the DC character in two things, name and the fact that there were cats.

Electra was a garbled mess

For Wonder Woman, it was the 70's and it ran for 3 years, for that era it wasn't too terrible.

loonatic112358:Mugato: baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

The studios also cocked those movies up as well

Catwoman the movie resembled Catwoman the DC character in two things, name and the fact that there were cats.

Electra was a garbled mess

For Wonder Woman, it was the 70's and it ran for 3 years, for that era it wasn't too terrible.

I thought they were talking about the cancelled modern TV show where Diana was not the Diana from the comics but some strong willed CEO of a very successful fashion business and she did not really have any super powers but still fought crime... It has been a while since I read the review of the "upcoming" Wonder Woman TV show. Not sure all the info I remember is right. All I can be sure about was that it was not Wonder Woman from the comics. It was Hollywood doing what Hollywood does best. Take someones work and only use the name.

loonatic112358:Mugato: baconbeard: I don't know why they don't make these movies. The box office would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!

You laugh but it's not like they didn't try it. Electra, Catwoman (Halle Berry), Wonder Woman on TV. Nothing. The audience loves superhero chicks as supporting players but not as leads for whatever reason. That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

The studios also cocked those movies up as well

Catwoman the movie resembled Catwoman the DC character in two things, name and the fact that there were cats.

Electra was a garbled mess

For Wonder Woman, it was the 70's and it ran for 3 years, for that era it wasn't too terrible.

I thought he was talking about that recent series they tried to get off the ground, where they tried to make Wonder Woman into some kind of weird cross between Tony Stark and Ozymandias (only with a cosmetics company). If he's talking about the '70s series... wasn't that a minor hit?

yves0010:thought they were talking about the cancelled modern TV show where Diana was not the Diana from the comics but some strong willed CEO of a very successful fashion business and she did not really have any super powers but still fought crime... It has been a while since I read the review of the "upcoming" Wonder Woman TV show. Not sure all the info I remember is right. All I can be sure about was that it was not Wonder Woman from the comics. It was Hollywood doing what Hollywood does best. Take someones work and only use the name.

Possible. Marvel could riff off Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" remake. but either be more like a "Lethal Weapon"-styled movie or have it's own light-hearted comedic slant.

Sliver Sable and Black Widow would just feel like a "Salt" knock off and we all remember how well that movie did.

Uh, no. BW can be pulled off and, if anything, because of her origin it would be more beliveable.

Captain Marvel and Spider-Woman may work but you'd have to lay a bunch of ground work in the next Avengers movie and we already know Scarlet Witch is going to be introduced. I don't think she could carry her own movie. Not without bring daddy Magneto into it.

1. CM would be the preferred heroine to be added to The Avengers.

2. Fox and Marvel have that "no mention of mutants" clause in the agreement. So, Marvel can't really mention Wanda's parentage or that she is a mutant.

Cool, let me lay a plan for more Marvel superheroines out for you, and then you try to tell me that you wouldn't spend all your money to see it happen just like this:

1. Make an action-comedy Ant-Man movie where it turns out Ant-Man is no hero, he's a dweeb who refuses to leave his lab 'cause he's on a roll creating about seventeen superpowers or android creations in a row. He's in the title and in the origin story and not much else. Ditzy Janet van Dyne volunteers for one of these, finds she likes the ability to fly and zap douchebags with bio-stings, and suddenly gets hardcore into saving lives and general superheroing as the Wasp. Now the movie's all about her. She gets into the media storm ("Is it true you're called the Wasp?" "Ew, no! Gross") reveals her real name, starts marketing her image, even becomes a big success in her first love, fashion design.

She completely drops the bubblehead act, gets serious, and defeats the movie's antagonist and about nine other villains in a row. It's not like she does it without chipping a nail. In fact her arm gets broken halfway through the last big action setpiece. But that doesn't stop her, she just ignores it and starts kicking ass one-handed. Probably some not-too-subtle reminders at that point about women's tolerance to pain compared to men. Big finale: the Big Boss has armor that she can't zap through, so she gets fed up and just grows to about thirty-five feet tall, picks up a dump truck filled with lead bars and drops it on him. Remember, this is the woman who eventually becomes the leader of the Avengers, telling all those alpha male types like Cap and Thor what to do. She has shrinking/growing, flying and zapping powers, but they end up being just a tiny part of The Wasp, mixed in with her leadership skills, battle planning, media savvy, and outright willpower... and we get to see it all start to develop in this movie.

2. Don't use Ellen Page as Kitty Pryde, cast her as Jennifer Walters. Tiny, meek, barely-speaks-above-a-whisper lawyer Jennie. She's an even smaller version of Ally McBeal. It's all about the contrast in body size between her and She-Hulk. And the even larger contrast in personalities.Movie starts: She's in the back of an Army sedan on a lonely highway, she's accompanying her cousin Banner to some base in the California mountains. (If you stick with New Mexico, it'll just look like the convoy attack in Iron Man 1.) Wham! Attack by an AIM offshoot, cars flipping, horrible injuries, AIM flunkies in yellow rad suits (beekeeper type AIM suit callback) stealing vital SHIELD stuff. Tons of blood everywhere, as much as PG-13 will let you show. Banner drives her away from the action, fearing an "episode". He looks in the back seat after they drive a bit, and she's bleeding out fast. Just gushing blood. Ruffalo faces the terrible choice to either let her die or give her his tainted blood. Does a quick transfusion, stays with her a bit, saying things like "your eyes are still blue. That's good", and she's all "what does that mean?". (It means they haven't turned green yet.)The main plot points:- at first her episodes are triggered by fear not by anger- the main villain is Titania or Red She Hulk or both- some really good, Few Good Men-esque courtroom scenes.It all ends with her becoming a celebrity and doing part-time law work and part-time battleship lifting or villain pounding. No "fear of Hulks" reaction from the public, since she learns really, really quickly how to keep her sanity while in Hulk form, and to change back and forth at will.It all hinges on if they can make a 7' tall female CGI Hulk body look sexy, muscular, and not all uncanny-valley in the face. They CGI'ed Ruffalo's face onto a completely virtual Hulk pretty well, so do the same here.

3. So, this makes Captain Marvel the most serious movie. I still like a dyed blonde Olivia Wilde for this, just get her to gain 15lbs of muscle mass first, like all the male superhero actors have to do. I like her because she's got incredibly gorgeous eyes, for scenes where she's wearing a helmet, oxygen mask and flight suit in a fighter jet, or behind a superhero mask (at first, finally she just goes public with her identity, no mask and the alien-style inspired red, blue & yellow outfit... which I bet will take some poor costume designer months to get it to look right in a live action film.)

Rarely-smiling career Air Force officer Carol Danvers doesn't like supers, doesn't think anybody other than police or armed forces should be fighting for us. But then she finds herself on the wrong launch pad at the wrong time, and gets her powers during a crazy alien attack. Turns out one group of bad invading aliens were turned back by Mar-Vell, same alien race but he fell in love with humanity or became a pacifist or something. Whatever. He's dead and now she's got powers. Mostly flying and energy absorbing, so her kick is that she has to absorb lots of laser blasts before she can fire back or punch through a flying saucer's hull. Maybe she keeps developing new powers throughout the movie, or maybe her overall abilities cycle between low (absorb a bullet's kinetic energy and that's it) medium-level (lift a car) and high (form new craters on the moon).

Does it tie into the Cosmic Marvel movies or the SHIELD Marvel movies? Either way, it's got to show how hard it is for normal Earthlings to get into space, survive, navigate, etc. Then the fact that she can just FLY into orbit from a sidewalk or wherever will look amazing. Do some good small bits: she tells a friend about how she has to remember to stop breathing when she leaves the atmosphere. Her friend thinks, then says "Do you need to breathe now?"... Just to show the viewers just how much your life is changed after getting powers. Is Carol still really human?The villain is somebody from outer space, the Collector or Reptyl or somebody. The basic message is that Earth is suddenly on the radar of a lot of bad planets, and it's up to the superheroes to protect us until we can get our act together and prepare planetary defense, claim the other planets around the sun for our own, join the Anti-Chitauri league, etc.

4. All of these movies get a 5-10 minute short at the start or maybe post-credits. The Adventures of Squirrel Girl. If she's not an actual chubby-cheeked Disney teenager like Selena Gomez, then it's that kind of idea. Bright, perky, optimistic Squirrel Girl with a costume that would make even the American Family Association happy. More Girl Power, less trashy Skank Power type of costume, you know?

So: Silly adventure movie font in the titles, lots of gags, but still she keeps kicking everybody's ass effortlessly. Use all kinds of crazy villains: guys in really stupid looking suits using tech they clearly don't understand very well (Beetle, Boomerang, Mirage, Ringmaster), guys who have 'roided out on some crazy serum (Piledriver, Man-Ape, Armadillo) or whatever kind of crazy leftovers that don't get handled by Iron Man but are still capable of demolishing Sheboygan (Kree Sentries, Chitauri tanks with AI, Enchantress, Trapster).

They all keep attacking sunny suburbs and midwestern towns, and Squirrel Girl keeps slapping them around. It's not so much "is she in danger" as it is "how does she deliver the smackdown this time?".The idea is that she's having a great time, not taking it all too seriously, using nuts or squirrel allies or her giant fluffy tail... but at the same time she has flat-outincredible skills. All the fights seem to take place at amusement parks or at the beach, or at the circus museum in Wisconsin. It's got an almost Golden Age feel to it. This is at complete odds with a world full of grim heroes, tough-as-nails super-spies, and evil businessmen with glowing-hot blood fighting at construction sites or in Harlem. Since we don't have a wisecracking Spider-Man in Marvel's movies, Squirrel Girl is a good substitute to show the fun side of it all.

loonatic112358:yves0010: thought they were talking about the cancelled modern TV show where Diana was not the Diana from the comics but some strong willed CEO of a very successful fashion business and she did not really have any super powers but still fought crime... It has been a while since I read the review of the "upcoming" Wonder Woman TV show. Not sure all the info I remember is right. All I can be sure about was that it was not Wonder Woman from the comics. It was Hollywood doing what Hollywood does best. Take someones work and only use the name.

I wasn't aware of an attempt to make a "New" Wonder Woman

The pilot summery. Dont take it as fact but this is what we were seeing a few years ago.

Neat fact: they (SW & QS) are going to be in both X-Men:Days of Futures Past and Avengers 2. In A2, they are "superpowered" (since FOX owns the terms 'Mutants' as related to Marvel Movies) twins who protect Europe. Paternal relations shall not be spoken about.

Kanemano:Has Joss Wedon been made the official director of all marvel movies from now on?

He's the overall vision guy in charge of the MMU. Like WB/DC said with Nolan.

Grotesk:She-Hulk deserves a movie presence. She's becoming kind of the Grand Old Lady of female Marvel heroes since she's had so much exposure and titles of her own, but again, having her show up first in AoS as a lawyer hired to fix a liability issue with some damage done by Coulson and company or as part of a cleanup for a Hulk incident, then having her being a cousin of Bruce Banner leading into her genetics being right to get Hulkified in some guest appearance or whatnot would work to get her into the continuity without too much stress.

I was thinking something exactly along these lines to introduce She-Hulk.

yves0010:loonatic112358: yves0010: thought they were talking about the cancelled modern TV show where Diana was not the Diana from the comics but some strong willed CEO of a very successful fashion business and she did not really have any super powers but still fought crime... It has been a while since I read the review of the "upcoming" Wonder Woman TV show. Not sure all the info I remember is right. All I can be sure about was that it was not Wonder Woman from the comics. It was Hollywood doing what Hollywood does best. Take someones work and only use the name.

I wasn't aware of an attempt to make a "New" Wonder Woman

The pilot summery. Dont take it as fact but this is what we were seeing a few years ago.

Yeah, i mean Adrienne was alright by me to play WW; but David E. Kelley completely FUBARed that idea with that godawful pilot they put up.

HeartBurnKid:For Wonder Woman, it was the 70's and it ran for 3 years, for that era it wasn't too terrible.

I thought he was talking about that recent series they tried to get off the ground, where they tried to make Wonder Woman into some kind of weird cross between Tony Stark and Ozymandias (only with a cosmetics company). If he's talking about the '70s series... wasn't that a minor hit?

Obviously I wasn't talking about the Linda Carter show, that was a classic.

yves0010:loonatic112358: yves0010: thought they were talking about the cancelled modern TV show where Diana was not the Diana from the comics but some strong willed CEO of a very successful fashion business and she did not really have any super powers but still fought crime... It has been a while since I read the review of the "upcoming" Wonder Woman TV show. Not sure all the info I remember is right. All I can be sure about was that it was not Wonder Woman from the comics. It was Hollywood doing what Hollywood does best. Take someones work and only use the name.

I wasn't aware of an attempt to make a "New" Wonder Woman

The pilot summery. Dont take it as fact but this is what we were seeing a few years ago.

So the plot from Halle Berry's Catwoman, more or less

Except Diana wasn't timid at first, maybe

Sounds like they just have a shiatty template for female superheroes at these studios

Imperious Rex!:RoxtarRyan: Mugato: That's why Black Widow's the only Avenger without her own solo film (besides the bow and arrow guy but he's just lame),

A Black Widow/Hawkeye movie would be better. No one character fills the screen 100% of the time, Avengers already hints at their having a background working together, and the actors seemed like they had decent chemistry. To me, it's a no-brainer. Marvel covers two origin movies at once, so they reduce their risk of having two flops, and if it works, they can do sequels for each individual character.

Imperious Rex!: They didn't do well because they were shiatty movies, not because people don't want a female superhero movie.

I've been thinking about this... the only successful movie featuring a female lead "superhero" is probably the Resident Evil series, that I can recall at least. Sure, you can *not* like the series, as many would agree with, but they raked in a decent amount of money for the studios to keep making them (nearly $1B revenue, while only spending about $250M.) Not too shabby, really. I think a good kickstart to having movies on a bit more of the serious side would be a continuation of the Bourne series featuring a female lead. (the recent Bourne movie hinted at male and female members of the project). Not as "campy" as a superhero movie would be, and could help break the mold of having the "little old damsel in distress" stereotype given to many females in lead films.

I happen to agree. I personally enjoy the franchise, and it really is the best example of female led movies. All the major characters are empowered women, and it has done well for itself.

While I would enjoy a female led Bourne, I think a Black Widow or Elektra film could essentially fill that role for the MCU. Neither character in their own are flashy heroes, and it may be easier to bring in an audience for those characters. I think one of the failings of Elektra's movie was that outside of being subpar, they really pushed it as a superhero mo ...

There was a great mini series of Black Widow a few years back illustrated by JG Jones where Natasha was being hunted down by "the New Black Widow" that the Russians created. The new Black Widow rogue to kill Romanov because no matter how good the new one was, they kept comparing her to the original. The original appears to be on the ropes most of the time until you find out at the end that Romanov was playing her the whole time.

I think Ellen Page is yummy but she probably thinks X-Men is too mainstream nowadays.

Oh, Ellen is cute no question. I honestly would've loved to see her as Mary Marvel if they ever did a "SHAZAM!" movie. You want someone that's cute but not overly sexy who becomes a 6'7" CGI'd statuesque knockout who could demolish a building with her bare hands.