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Also, you forgot "swedish meatballs who, in fact, are only croatian ladyboys who sing creepy lullabies to dolls, like to be raped and pissed on and who stalk married men".
I'll leave the baby abducting stuff out of this, since it's already long enough.

Without pointing anyone out specifically, I'd say there are two types of posters that certainly don't help things around here.

People playing roles as opposed to themselves.
(Who knows if they even believe in what they're saying?)

People saying shit they'd never in a million years say to someone's face.
(Thanks a lot, inventor of the Internet muscle.)

Simple as that. A rational discussion or debate shouldn't be a headache to pull off. This place isn't dead. I consider everyone outside of the two types to be the life support. If only they were the ones posting here more often.

This place mirrors the world in general... conflicts flare up. Refugees flee. Some never left. Some return, some don't. Soldiers die, some don't. Monuments are erected... some stand and are cherished by a generation while others fall into disrepair or are defaced by malcontents.

For better or worse... the world evolves all around us. Life goes on... Live it... the alternative sucks.

The people that broke absolutely none of Sarge's rules but were effectively forced out and have since for the most part stayed away, THEY killed the Army?

Yeah, you're right, that makes perfect sense.....

Team Butthurt? I agree. That's a shame. I wonder where those guys are now.
If you're talking about the clique you should have taken the reigns yourself when they were offered to you if you felt that way. Personally I don't think the Army's dead at all. I found this site back in 2007 trying to find out more info about Roth rejoining VH. I'm sure that added a few posts. Everyone was hoping for a new album but they got ADKOT instead. They wanted a decent live album fom CVH and got Live In Tokyo instead. If anything's killing the Army it's Roth and/or Van Halen.
BTW. Who from either group other than Flappo was forced out and has stayed away since?

JHale and Lounge have stayed away for the vast majority of time, they only post every now and then. I would also include Kwame in that category as well.

And yes, those two were effectively forced out IMO.

Which two? When new management took over they were the one's who made the decision to demod all those guys. I don't believe any of them were banned. Just about everybody on the other side was banned. Hale kind of got the shitty end of the stick for being loyal to his buddy but otherwise no one was totally innocent.

Which two? When new management took over they were the one's who made the decision to demod all those guys. I don't believe any of them were banned. Just about everybody on the other side was banned. Hale kind of got the shitty end of the stick for being loyal to his buddy but otherwise no one was totally innocent.

Here we go with bad lawyer cdog again, his life's dream is to be on Judge Judy.

Without pointing anyone out specifically, I'd say there are two types of posters that certainly don't help things around here.

People playing roles as opposed to themselves.
(Who knows if they even believe in what they're saying?)

People saying shit they'd never in a million years say to someone's face.
(Thanks a lot, inventor of the Internet muscle.)

Simple as that. A rational discussion or debate shouldn't be a headache to pull off. This place isn't dead. I consider everyone outside of the two types to be the life support. If only they were the ones posting here more often.

Which two? When new management took over they were the one's who made the decision to demod all those guys. I don't believe any of them were banned. Just about everybody on the other side was banned. Hale kind of got the shitty end of the stick for being loyal to his buddy but otherwise no one was totally innocent.

No one was totally innocent? Please tell me, just what did JHale and Lounge do that broke Sarge's rules?

The common bullshit I hear is that they "ganged up" on people, which is so laughable coming from the billy bob badasses that the Roth Army professes that are here and are supposedly so legendary.....

Of course, if people that you actually got along with ganged up on someone, you would have thought that was the best thing since hot buttered popcorn.... But since you DON'T get along with them, that's different, isn't it?

And we all know what happened when those same legendary people didn't like what they were hearing, don't we.... They exposed people's families and they disturbed people's businesses.... What a bunch of tough guys....

I don't begrudge Sesh at all, he graciously agreed to take over after I passed, it's his ballgame now and I respect that....

Doesn't mean I agree with the decision that was made, though, and he knows that.....

Constant autopsies and a define me define me culture.
The army is what it is , if people post here it thrives if people don't post here well it's a forum that's quiet.

The whole it's them , it's them is pretty fucking boring.
Even after the most serious event people have either got to move on or for fuck sake move on.

It doesn't help that most people on here are looking at something they love 30 years older and don't like the idea of what that means to all of us.
Am sure the people over at the playboy army are totally pissed their favourite 70's playgirl can't do high kicks

The common bullshit I hear is that they "ganged up" on people, which is so laughable coming from the billy bob badasses that the Roth Army professes that are here and are supposedly so legendary.....

Ok, I'll take the bait...

Never proclaimed myself a "bad ass". Lurked for at least a year before posting. Once I posted - against the grain of the group-blue-think of the era - I was insulted in a variety of ways. The pattern was consistent... always the same group patting themselves on the back for "owning" another member. Please keep in mind that the name calling, thread stalking, etc. was initiated by them. My sin? I called someone a miserable home-wrecker... someone who admitted to enjoying screwing married men and the fallout that ensues afterwards. For that I was occasionally chased around threads (many others were flat-out stalked - "bang" a personal attack after every post)... bar mogul would usually start, guitar hero would parrot behind, and so it went.

And you still see the thread stalk by one of them every now and again.

Generally, the argument for why it was taking place seemed to be rooted in "history" at The Army. Someone did something years ago, so it remained fair game forever. If that's the logic to be used, then maybe the perception of newer members could be considered the least biased? For what I saw throughout 2012 and the ensuing meltdown, the Indigo Boys spent an inordinate amount of time bashing people. Not referring to the nonsense of "moving threads, changing thread names, mod room, etc."... they acted like dicks towards other people for no other reason than I guess to virtual-high-five via PM after their little witticisms were typed.

And with that comes karma, which is both a bitch and not necessarily equal in it's response to past actions.

It should all be put in the rear view. Many here seem to have done so. Others have shown they can't.

No one was totally innocent? Please tell me, just what did JHale and Lounge do that broke Sarge's rules?

The common bullshit I hear is that they "ganged up" on people, which is so laughable coming from the billy bob badasses that the Roth Army professes that are here and are supposedly so legendary.....

Of course, if people that you actually got along with ganged up on someone, you would have thought that was the best thing since hot buttered popcorn.... But since you DON'T get along with them, that's different, isn't it?

And we all know what happened when those same legendary people didn't like what they were hearing, don't we.... They exposed people's families and they disturbed people's businesses.... What a bunch of tough guys....

I don't begrudge Sesh at all, he graciously agreed to take over after I passed, it's his ballgame now and I respect that....

Doesn't mean I agree with the decision that was made, though, and he knows that.....

Oh, poor little jhale667 & LardMachine, the delicate little flowers.

They were forced out of the website because the big bad bullies were mean to them.

It's nothing they haven't done to others hundreds of times. Are you seriously telling us that driving them out was the cause of this site going downhill? Are you going to stick your head farther up your ass & refuse to see that THEY drove a lot more people out? Why is it ok for them to do it, but not ok to happen to them? If they can't take it, they shouldn't be givin' it, either.

Are you going to refuse to see that every single goddamn fucking time LardMachine dropped by was to provoke & humiliate someone else? Use your fucking eyes to read! NO ONE has started ANY shit with him ever since. It's been your boyfriend who has started all the shit.

I get it. They're your friends. Congratufuckinlations on your loyalty. I always have my friends' backs too. But if they're acting like retards or piles of shit, *I* will be the first to tell them. Because in my point of view, THAT is what friends do. And if they insist on their behaviour, it's time to part ways. But of course, I'm just a fucking retard, what the hell do I know? Do realise though, that your special little angel posted a video of ME even though I never posted any personal information myself. But I suppose that's ok, because double fucking standards.

When I apologised to you after that whole debacle, I meant it. Sincerely. I will not, however, apologise for this. Am I being an internet tough guy? Granted, you'll probably be somewhat pissed when you read this. And you probably have a lot to say to me as well. But this is exactly what I would tell to your face. Would these words cause a fight in real life? I don't think so. I don't consider this enough to start a fight & you probably don't, either. That is not the idea I have of you.

I see you're a Webmaster again, which makes this your site as well. I can't speak for others in my "team", but if you don't want me here, just say so. I have my pride & I refuse to be in a place where the owners do not welcome me. If you think I am to blame for your fragile sparkling little ponies being driven away, just say so.

Rules are NOT everything. You can easily dance around them & do a lot more damage than if you just flat out broke them. You're not stupid, so it pains me to see how your mind has been broken to blindly follow rules. It's your own loss, though.

Now I expect your special little buddy will drop by & brag how he's so chummy with one as important as you & how we are all lesser beings, but I don't give a fuck about that retarded, pathetic manchild. It's up to you. Just say the word & I'm out of here & you can all get together & jack each other off to your heart's content.

Now stop whining like a little pussy. It doesn't suit you.

For the record, I think that what killed the Roth Army is simply lack of interest in the band, even if that sounds preposterous to some of you lot.

Never proclaimed myself a "bad ass". Lurked for at least a year before posting. Once I posted - against the grain of the group-blue-think of the era - I was insulted in a variety of ways. The pattern was consistent... always the same group patting themselves on the back for "owning" another member. Please keep in mind that the name calling, thread stalking, etc. was initiated by them. My sin? I called someone a miserable home-wrecker... someone who admitted to enjoying screwing married men and the fallout that ensues afterwards. For that I was occasionally chased around threads (many others were flat-out stalked - "bang" a personal attack after every post)... bar mogul would usually start, guitar hero would parrot behind, and so it went.

And you still see the thread stalk by one of them every now and again.

Generally, the argument for why it was taking place seemed to be rooted in "history" at The Army. Someone did something years ago, so it remained fair game forever. If that's the logic to be used, then maybe the perception of newer members could be considered the least biased? For what I saw throughout 2012 and the ensuing meltdown, the Indigo Boys spent an inordinate amount of time bashing people. Not referring to the nonsense of "moving threads, changing thread names, mod room, etc."... they acted like dicks towards other people for no other reason than I guess to virtual-high-five via PM after their little witticisms were typed.

And with that comes karma, which is both a bitch and not necessarily equal in it's response to past actions.

It should all be put in the rear view. Many here seem to have done so. Others have shown they can't.

Karma isn't real, you silly goose. That's just a "cooler" way to say "god will make you pay for what you did", but it amounts to the same superstitious crap.

And we both just wasted our precious time. VA won't get his head out of his ass to see that it's STILL his special care bear friend who is starting shit every single time it drops by.

Never proclaimed myself a "bad ass". Lurked for at least a year before posting. Once I posted - against the grain of the group-blue-think of the era - I was insulted in a variety of ways. The pattern was consistent... always the same group patting themselves on the back for "owning" another member. Please keep in mind that the name calling, thread stalking, etc. was initiated by them. My sin? I called someone a miserable home-wrecker... someone who admitted to enjoying screwing married men and the fallout that ensues afterwards. For that I was occasionally chased around threads (many others were flat-out stalked - "bang" a personal attack after every post)... bar mogul would usually start, guitar hero would parrot behind, and so it went.

And you still see the thread stalk by one of them every now and again.

Generally, the argument for why it was taking place seemed to be rooted in "history" at The Army. Someone did something years ago, so it remained fair game forever. If that's the logic to be used, then maybe the perception of newer members could be considered the least biased? For what I saw throughout 2012 and the ensuing meltdown, the Indigo Boys spent an inordinate amount of time bashing people. Not referring to the nonsense of "moving threads, changing thread names, mod room, etc."... they acted like dicks towards other people for no other reason than I guess to virtual-high-five via PM after their little witticisms were typed.

And with that comes karma, which is both a bitch and not necessarily equal in it's response to past actions.

It should all be put in the rear view. Many here seem to have done so. Others have shown they can't.

Dry up wuss, you have to know the difference between insulting people and smearing personal information, big fucking difference between the two.

They were forced out of the website because the big bad bullies were mean to them.

It's nothing they haven't done to others hundreds of times. Are you seriously telling us that driving them out was the cause of this site going downhill? Are you going to stick your head farther up your ass & refuse to see that THEY drove a lot more people out? Why is it ok for them to do it, but not ok to happen to them? If they can't take it, they shouldn't be givin' it, either.

Are you going to refuse to see that every single goddamn fucking time LardMachine dropped by was to provoke & humiliate someone else? Use your fucking eyes to read! NO ONE has started ANY shit with him ever since. It's been your boyfriend who has started all the shit.

I get it. They're your friends. Congratufuckinlations on your loyalty. I always have my friends' backs too. But if they're acting like retards or piles of shit, *I* will be the first to tell them. Because in my point of view, THAT is what friends do. And if they insist on their behaviour, it's time to part ways. But of course, I'm just a fucking retard, what the hell do I know? Do realise though, that your special little angel posted a video of ME even though I never posted any personal information myself. But I suppose that's ok, because double fucking standards.

When I apologised to you after that whole debacle, I meant it. Sincerely. I will not, however, apologise for this. Am I being an internet tough guy? Granted, you'll probably be somewhat pissed when you read this. And you probably have a lot to say to me as well. But this is exactly what I would tell to your face. Would these words cause a fight in real life? I don't think so. I don't consider this enough to start a fight & you probably don't, either. That is not the idea I have of you.

I see you're a Webmaster again, which makes this your site as well. I can't speak for others in my "team", but if you don't want me here, just say so. I have my pride & I refuse to be in a place where the owners do not welcome me. If you think I am to blame for your fragile sparkling little ponies being driven away, just say so.

Rules are NOT everything. You can easily dance around them & do a lot more damage than if you just flat out broke them. You're not stupid, so it pains me to see how your mind has been broken to blindly follow rules. It's your own loss, though.

Now I expect your special little buddy will drop by & brag how he's so chummy with one as important as you & how we are all lesser beings, but I don't give a fuck about that retarded, pathetic manchild. It's up to you. Just say the word & I'm out of here & you can all get together & jack each other off to your heart's content.

Now stop whining like a little pussy. It doesn't suit you.

For the record, I think that what killed the Roth Army is simply lack of interest in the band, even if that sounds preposterous to some of you lot.

Cheers!

Dude, you threatened to kill somebody because a thread got moved, are you really going to tell somebody to stop being a whiny pussy?