Luongo Talk: The Final Countdown...?

Again the hockey gods decided the Canucks should go into the playoffs in a brain fuzz, without their best winger, breaking up through injury what was going to be a solid 2nd line in Booth, Kesler, Higgins... AV was an idiot Injuries scare me more than anything, which is why depth on all 4 lines is going to be key.

Luongo on the bench, incase of an injury changes nothing... depth from a trade for Luongo allows the team to overcome a goaltending challenge. Luongo simply must be traded.

The team isn't better with Bozak and Kadri and a 2nd round pick than it would be with Luongo.

It's that simple for me, unless the deal really improves the club, it makes no sense to do it before a compressed season.

I'm done with this topic for now, I feel like I'm back in July.

*edit* agree with PG, if it's Weiss ++ yeah, but not Bozak and Kadri....there truly is NO incentive to make that deal from the Canucks POV, scraps are always available, top tier goalies aren't.

Risk is the same, but I'd rather not take a risk and have both goalies than have scraps, is all.

So let's not talk about scraps cause there is no way GMMG trades Lu for scraps. He would've done it in July. He is going to make a trade that makes sense for the Canucks, not for the Leafs, and whoever gets him is going to have to give up something of value.

It simply comes back to this... Luongo indeed makes the Leafs, and Panthers better teams. He improves their chances, even if they lose some players, because he can make a bigger impact for those teams.

If you are Burke, you need to make the playoffs, you have no choice. Well I guess you do, miss the playoffs and get fired, or bite the bullet, and next year find improvements.

The team isn't better with Bozak and Kadri and a 2nd round pick than it would be with Luongo.

It's that simple for me, unless the deal really improves the club, it makes no sense to do it before a compressed season.

I'm done with this topic for now, I feel like I'm back in July.

*edit* agree with PG, if it's Weiss ++ yeah, but not Bozak and Kadri....there truly is NO incentive to make that deal from the Canucks POV, scraps are always available, top tier goalies aren't.

And I agree as well, Weiss makes most sense from Canucks perspective. Even if you let him walk in off season, for this season he is the best option and gives you some cap space as well if i'm not mistaken.

So let's not talk about scraps cause there is no way GMMG trades Lu for scraps. He would've done it in July. He is going to make a trade that makes sense for the Canucks, not for the Leafs, and whoever gets him is going to have to give up something of value.

It simply comes back to this... Luongo indeed makes the Leafs, and Panthers better teams. He improves their chances, even if they lose some players, because he can make a bigger impact for those teams.

If you are Burke, you need to make the playoffs, you have no choice. Well I guess you do, miss the playoffs and get fired, or bite the bullet, and next year find improvements.

Agreed he won't trade Luongo for scraps. This is why I think Toronto will lose out on Luongo: nothing of value to offer, or won't give up anything of value. I still like Florida, and I bring up Weiss again. If the rumours about him are true, hopefully we can make a move and get him.

They have some strong young players ready to play on ELC's and Luongo has 6 years of great hockey left in him.

If he has no plans to sign in FLA, you trade for Lu, and get your young guns going.

Who is going to step right into a #1 center role? Not Bjugstad, he's staying in college. Nobody else they have is ready for a #1 center role.

The most prudent thing they could do is hang onto Weiss until they know where they sit in the playoff picture and then sell him at the deadline if they are on the outside looking in...nothing else makes sense.

Matt Frattin has 27 even strength goals in 58 AHL games. I wonder where that ranks him in even strength goals. That's absurd 5 on 5 finishing ability - let alone for someone with less than 60 games under their belt as a pro...

That trade isn't bad at all, we essentially upgraded the bottom six for a redundant asset. People are really underrating Matt Frattin here, he's built a like a tank, hustles every shift, and produces.

It's pretty bad. At no point does a goalie of Luongo's calibre equal Bozak, and Frattin. Sure, Frattin may not be bad, but he's not going to be a top six player on the Canucks in the future, I can tell you that. Bozak is just ugh.