Barnes & Noble have clearly shown prior art and triviality for all of the above.

]]>By: BeholdersEyehttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171995
Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:42:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171995Why aren’t any of these of M$ innovations are being ‘tamped’ on, ever listed so we all know what they are, and why Google can not come up with a different techniques? I sure would like to see the list.
]]>By: BeholdersEyehttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171996
Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:42:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171996Why aren’t any of these of M$ innovations are being ‘tamped’ on, ever listed so we all know what they are, and why Google can not come up with a different techniques? I sure would like to see the list.
]]>By: wizhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171152
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:24:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171152“the internet runs mostly on Linux” – no objections, did not say anything else. There are still “loads and loads of computers with microsoft software on them” in the way as well, though
]]>By: Brenton Mannonhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171140
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:49:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171140At least Google buys me good things with my personal data. I’ll take relevant ads over shot-gun ads any day.
]]>By: Toddhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171121
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:59:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171121GTFO! Coming from a Novell smackdown, I had to learn this a long time ago. Microsoft won. Apple is a distraction keeping humanity from greatness. Thank God for Intel otherwise we’d be dealing with AMD and Motorola. If by price reduction you mean shotty, stolen AT&T System 5 derivatives then go for it. I’d suggest that you move to China an enjoy all the Louis Vuitton you can buy. Oy!
]]>By: AppleFUDhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171063
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:57:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171063did you over tighten your tinfoil hate again?
]]>By: AppleFUDhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171062
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:55:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171062More like it just ran through loads and loads of computers with Linux on them–this is the internet and the internet runs mostly on Linux. . . MS has a large market share of “desktop” computers not servers ;)
]]>By: AppleFUDhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171061
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:51:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171061WOW!!! Just WOW!!! You must be very young.

Maybe you should search for the history of the GUI and just how MS got their first OS.

MS & Apple are THE two biggest thieves on the planet when it comes to IP theft.

]]>By: AppleFUDhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171059
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:47:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171059Yeah, sure. . . MS & Apple should get paid or be able to block innovation with software patents because both those companies built their companies by stealing. . . wait for it. . . software IP at a time when software patents were rarely if ever awarded, thus they both built big companies and patented other peoples’ & companies’ ideas and are now trying to use those same patents to either block other companies form competing or to basically tax their products.

It isn’t about if “Google is good or fair” it’s about the system being fubared and MS & Apple using that system in a malicious way. I know. . I know, don’t hate the player hate the game. BS! A system can’t have morals or ethics, only people can and those people carry them into their companies–seems the leaders at apple & ms left their morals and ethics behind.

So, hate the system and hate the companies that abuse the system and as consumers boycott those companies till they develop some morals and ethics.

Companies today should be able to develop their companies with the same freedoms that apple & ms had when developing their companies–just because they’ve paid a lot of government officials off to get rules and regulations that favor them isn’t a reason to look the other way.As far as “annoyingly ignorant and naive” well, it sounds like you have that covered.

]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171051
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:10:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171051For smaller companies, maybe. But not Samsung, who has a large IP portfolio at their disposal and deep pockets to fight if they want.
]]>By: eEkhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171048
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:54:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171048dude how old are you?!? You read someone’s opinion on something he does not have the slightest clue of which itself is about something that noone has insight into… and base your opinion off of that?!? What are you thinking?? Do you think HTC and LG and Samsung and whoever just WANTS to pay ms royalties? Has it ever occured to you that they might be right and should be paid for what they invented? Heck, what do I know – but not buying a product because you think google is a ‘good’ or ‘fair’ company is just annoyingly ignorant and naive!
]]>By: right...https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171046
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:51:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171046Obviously, you do not sue a computer for work. Plus you better stop typing this rubbish on a blog like this, because this just ran through loads and loads of computers with microsoft software on them.
]]>By: right...https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171044
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:49:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171044Yes, in your little black-and-white wonderland that we all wish for that is true. Live happy in your ignorance and believe in the good company google. Man how naive can you be…
]]>By: right...https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171043
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:46:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171043” I can’t understand why anyone would ever choose to use Windows for phones or computers.” If you truly cannot understand that you are in deep trouble and get a health check.
]]>By: whateverhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171034
Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:27:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171034LOL, reading some of these comments here it sounds as if you kids think Google is run by mother Theresa – and not by a board whose principal business model is to sell off your personal data in form of location logging, email crawling etc etc. You guys are so clueless it is funny. But sure. microsoft = ze baad and google = ze good (hell yeah, they must be nice, they wear sneakers!). Single best marketing spin of the last decade – congratulations to fall for it…
]]>By: Michael Creightonhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171017
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:33:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171017Yeah, “GO MICROSOFT!!!” Trample the consumer! Join Apple & Oracle in piling on to ruin everything before people notice what a great deal Google & the OS community gave everyone with Android. It’s not like anyone appreciates the price reducing effect Android/Linux has on the whole phone market.
]]>By: Michael Creightonhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-171006
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:54:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-171006Yeah there is just no way Windows Phone could be anything but garbage considering this is how M$ ‘competes’ in the market. Microsoft cannot stand to compete in a free market. In business, especially technology, patents ARE weapons! (Obviously!) Microsoft is just a particularly fat corporate troll. I can’t understand why anyone would ever choose to use Windows for phones or computers.
]]>By: Random HW guyhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170959
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:11:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170959“I’m guessing that level is zero.”
I am in the industry, and sadly, you are wrong. MS is going after the _manufacturing companies_ with their patent agreements. And they are winning, not because the patents are strong, but because the legal system is messed up, and showing that they are invalid is crippling.

So you cannot get a tablet or phone built by any passable manufacturer without being forced to pay the MS-patents-over-android tax.

]]>By: Ask Baldyhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170949
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:12:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170949good to know because i dont own any macs…
]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170947
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:11:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170947”
But please bringing a little misery into the lives of Tim Cook and Steve Ballmer. It would be so welcome.”

I’m sure they’ve seen the market share numbers. lol.

]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170943
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:00:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170943Yep… I suspect the royalties are tiny… They just want them to sign to validate their claims.
]]>By: Counsel Dewhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170932
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:26:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170932Actually, the decision just as likely could have been made re costs of proving MS wrong in litigation… Since we don’t know exactly why they agreed, we shouldn’t assume anything.
]]>By: Bobhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170933
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:26:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170933So the truth is out the little people have to pay more for these devices cause the millions of dollars spent on legal. Stop suing each other make it better and get money from us. Simple if you have the better one then you win if not try harder. I have downloaded all 3 phones and the code is changes over 20% heck not even the same language. yes the idea is there look at what happened when Microsoft became a monopoly and were forced to split of divisions freaking prices went up.
]]>By: Counsel Dewhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170931
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:22:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170931Wow…Really? On Twitter of all places? Fail :)
]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170927
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:16:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170927Why should there be? Microsoft and the companies that licensed (LG, Samsung, HTC and others) are fully aware of the patents and their functionality. That’s all that matters since they are the ones agreeing to pony up and pay MS.

Or are you actually niave enough to think that these companies agreed to pay without seeing the patents in quetion?

]]>By: plunderhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170926
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:14:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170926Mr Apple says: “We will NEVER licence our IP to you artless fools. Stop using it, or we will sue!” Meanwhile Mr Microsoft says: “Go ahead punk, make my day. Pay us millions or we will bury you in legal shit for decades LOL.”

Naturally part of my Android 1.6 soul reaches for a blunderbuss to send these monsters straight to hell! But everyone in this game has some IP, or wants to defend their hard won turf. In a civilisation rules are essential; but they must be sane and practical rules – Are They?

I hope Google act effectively but rationally, to defend their child “Android” from the monsters above; without “going thermonuclear war” on the SOBs. . . But please bringing a little misery into the lives of Tim Cook and Steve Ballmer. It would be so welcome.

]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170924
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:12:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170924Some of the things in software that people are allowed to patent are just ridiculous. They should be reserved for truly novel software designs, not just things that anyone could come up with.
]]>By: Billy Bob Gateshttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170922
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:11:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170922and Microsoft stole from Apple whole stole from Xerox who stole from CPM who stole from Moses who begat Noah whose sons Cain & Abel invented the wheel… yada friggin’ yada…

We live in a world of revisionist history and the problem is companies like MicroShaft exploit patent laws knowing that eventually someone else will actually build what they couldn’t, then they’ll sue them over it and make more $$$… This planet needs a reboot.. too many TSR’s in the legal system…

]]>By: Jacqueline El-Nilhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170921
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:10:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170921If you want to practice law, get a license.
The Android army knows something that you don’t…that’s why they are glad to pay.
If you enjoy using said products, by all means do so. But to measure one’s self worth by some plastic and glass device that changes every Tuesday at 3:29 pm like clock work…
]]>By: Zeus de Cretehttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170915
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:02:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170915It’s quite simple. Microsoft built an entire industry on the patent troll licensing model – Google didn’t. Google is built on open standards, a direct threat to the paten-troll licensing model. By engaging Google in a patent-war, Microsoft simply self fullfilling their prophecy that their model is the only way to go. There is no option but to lawyer up and patent-troll in order to counter Microsoft’s insistence in an outdated model.
]]>By: Toddhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170914
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:58:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170914Tank and Spank! GO MICROSOFT!!!
]]>By: Ghettohttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170913
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:56:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170913ideas and tech from microsoft? you mean generic patents from 1995 referring to “ways to store and read data” or some bs crap like that?

and lulz at the iphone knockoff. ever since apple has started copying nearly all the features of android, apple and their fanbois lose the right to say anything about android being a knockoff.

]]>By: kamereonhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170911
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:55:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170911Not that I was raring to buy any Microsoft product, but now I’m far less inclined to do so. Specifically, my girlfriend asked me to buy an X-Box – yeah, not going to happen now.
]]>By: Anonymoushttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170912
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:55:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170912I was glad to hear that Barnes & Noble refused to sign that NDA with M$ when they were being sued over the Nook. They then revealed what we all suspected about M$’s claims over Android: that they were specious at best.
]]>By: Felipehttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170909
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:53:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170909Hmnn … But you are not supposed to use someone’s work without their permission though.
]]>By: Rivendellrangerhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170910
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:53:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170910Lets all boycott microsoft
]]>By: Ask Baldyhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170906
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:44:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170906Yes Google innovates by taking ideas and tech that Microsoft created and putting them on there iPhone knock off hmm…
]]>By: Sethhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170905
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:42:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170905You know all this is a bunch of BS when there is never any mention of the specific functionality covered by the patents.
]]>By: James Sheridanhttps://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-goads-google-over-android-patent-deals-12208987/#comment-170903
Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:36:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=208987#comment-170903Did anyone read the linked patent apple recently won against htc? There has to be some prior art as it seems like a simple common process necessary for anyone interfacing with a computer. There must be some old C binaries that perform similar actions. What are these guys patenting every program they write now? I could see maybe copyright, but programs are an odd thing to patent. Too general.
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