So I don't watch much of RT, thought I don't turn away from it when linked to it. I'm old enough her story sounds plausible because you know, Russians don't take a dump, son, without a plan

But then I wonder why it took her so long, until now to say something about it. And also seeing how at so many media outlets the people who work there shift from one outlet to another, why hasn't this been reported on before from other places, 60 minutes, Fox, Mother Jones, ...

And then I wonder, just because we then have RT who seem biased, and Fox who seems biased in similar ways, and claims that MSNBC is biased in similar ways, well, what about Al Jazeera America?

RoyBatty:And then I wonder, just because we then have RT who seem biased, and Fox who seems biased in similar ways, and claims that MSNBC is biased in similar ways, well, what about Al Jazeera America?

Not sure about AJ America, but the general consensus about AJ itself was that it was fairly... fair as long as the story didn't involve jews and you avoided the editorials.

HotWingAgenda:God-is-a-Taco: I had no idea RT had a branch for American TV. I figured their wackiness was confined to text.A Filiipino working for a Russian news agency in the US. Huh.

Not a Filipina. A child of Hungarian refugees from Russian pogroms. Who for some reason chose to work for the Russian propaganda agency.

I'm not sure about her news background, but within the news industry, if you're working in Podunk, Nebraska and you get a call from Seattle (9th largest market in the US), you take the job unless it's so morally reprehensible (like, justifying 9/11 or something) you absolutely cannot fathom stomaching it for a nanosecond.

She rightly said she'd walked a tenuous moral and ethical line: so have many of us who have worked in television news. And many of us reached a point where we were no longer willing to do that. I reached mine when a producer deliberately chose not to verify facts--which he could have done with a phone call--and instead chose to air falsehoods that he knew to be false that he also knew were causing a local panic despite being presented with the facts and the means of verifying them (one of the anchors chose to verify the facts and reported the incident to the station manager, who gave the producer an unpaid two week vacation for his trouble, but by then, the damage had been done). Clearly, Wahl reached her point where she was no longer willing to accept a paycheck this week. Good for her.

Criticizing a newscaster (possibly a journalist--some are, some are not) for finding their integrity seems to me to be precisely the wrong thing to do, but hey--this is Fark. Beer and snark are required, logic is not. ;)

...just don't biatch to me about the media not having any integrity when you snipe and biatch when someone in the media finally shows some.

HotWingAgenda:God-is-a-Taco: I had no idea RT had a branch for American TV. I figured their wackiness was confined to text.A Filiipino working for a Russian news agency in the US. Huh.

Not a Filipina. A child of Hungarian refugees from Russian pogroms. Who for some reason chose to work for the Russian propaganda agency.

She may have bought the idea that Russia was part of the modern world now, or even that moderate russian speaking journos could do some good.. and then realised how silly that is with a warmongering KGB officer in charge.

Aigoo:HotWingAgenda: God-is-a-Taco: I had no idea RT had a branch for American TV. I figured their wackiness was confined to text.A Filiipino working for a Russian news agency in the US. Huh.

Not a Filipina. A child of Hungarian refugees from Russian pogroms. Who for some reason chose to work for the Russian propaganda agency.

I'm not sure about her news background, but within the news industry, if you're working in Podunk, Nebraska and you get a call from Seattle (9th largest market in the US), you take the job unless it's so morally reprehensible (like, justifying 9/11 or something) you absolutely cannot fathom stomaching it for a nanosecond.

She rightly said she'd walked a tenuous moral and ethical line: so have many of us who have worked in television news. And many of us reached a point where we were no longer willing to do that. I reached mine when a producer deliberately chose not to verify facts--which he could have done with a phone call--and instead chose to air falsehoods that he knew to be false that he also knew were causing a local panic despite being presented with the facts and the means of verifying them (one of the anchors chose to verify the facts and reported the incident to the station manager, who gave the producer an unpaid two week vacation for his trouble, but by then, the damage had been done). Clearly, Wahl reached her point where she was no longer willing to accept a paycheck this week. Good for her.

Criticizing a newscaster (possibly a journalist--some are, some are not) for finding their integrity seems to me to be precisely the wrong thing to do, but hey--this is Fark. Beer and snark are required, logic is not. ;)

...just don't biatch to me about the media not having any integrity when you snipe and biatch when someone in the media finally shows some.

FTFY. I am well aware what a glottal stop is, and it's not part of the correct pronunciation of Putin's surname. Or do we just make up our own pronunciations for major political figures now?

This is no more correct than it would be to refer to President Erhbarmah or Prime Minister Daveed Camehrown. News readers are supposed to use correct pronunciation, not just make it up because they're lazy.

diaphoresis:steerforth: If she had ethics she wouldn't have joined the Russian government's PR firm in the first place.

You can love your country, but not like the leaders..

THANKS OBAMA

Actually, I'm not so sure about that. After all, what defines a country? It isn't geography - that changes when lines are redrawn and the dirt inside those lines is pretty much the same as the dirt everywhere else. It isn't a society - if it was, the Basques would have their own country by now... and need I mention East Coast vs. West Coast Rap or the still-forming society of the internet? And it obviously isn't genetic lineage and spoken language, as it kinda-sorta probably was many thousands of years ago. What else could there be but government which defines a nation?

/Which is why I chuckle at fake patriots who hate their government but love their government's dirt.

FTFY. I am well aware what a glottal stop is, and it's not part of the correct pronunciation of Putin's surname. Or do we just make up our own pronunciations for major political figures now?

This is no more correct than it would be to refer to President Erhbarmah or Prime Minister Daveed Camehrown. News readers are supposed to use correct pronunciation, not just make it up because they're lazy.

Did it ever occur to your genius intellect that maybe she didn't perfectly enunciate Putin's name because she was nervous about going off script and resigning on air?

The fact that you're making such a big deal out of this makes me wonder if you've ever been exposed to different cultures. I can't imagine how miserable your life must be if something as innocent and insignificant as this pisses you off.

Mr. Ekshun:diaphoresis: steerforth: If she had ethics she wouldn't have joined the Russian government's PR firm in the first place.

You can love your country, but not like the leaders..

THANKS OBAMA

Actually, I'm not so sure about that. After all, what defines a country? It isn't geography - that changes when lines are redrawn and the dirt inside those lines is pretty much the same as the dirt everywhere else. It isn't a society - if it was, the Basques would have their own country by now... and need I mention East Coast vs. West Coast Rap or the still-forming society of the internet? And it obviously isn't genetic lineage and spoken language, as it kinda-sorta probably was many thousands of years ago. What else could there be but government which defines a nation?

/Which is why I chuckle at fake patriots who hate their government but love their government's dirt.

We'll be there to remind you of your position next time somebody who is not from your club becomes president.

Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

Marmilman:Did it ever occur to your genius intellect that maybe she didn't perfectly enunciate Putin's name because she was nervous about going off script and resigning on air?

The fact that you're making such a big deal out of this makes me wonder if you've ever been exposed to different cultures. I can't imagine how miserable your life must be if something as innocent and insignificant as this pisses you off.

I can pretty much guarantee I've had more exposure to different cultures than you have. I've lived on three continents, and traveled to far more countries than I can easily count, the majority of which don't natively speak English.

You do realize you're making just as big a deal out of something which was, initially, a throwaway comment. The only reason it's been discussed further is because you went into internet White Knight mode to rush to the fair maiden's rescue.

And also, a true professional can hold it together on air. Especially when they're saying a name that's probably among the most common they have to say on a daily basis in their work.

DrPainMD:Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

rzrwiresunrise:DrPainMD: Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

Journalists, or whatever passes under that name nowadays, are destroying our souls one soundbite at a time. Seriously, I've lived 40 years of my life, consuming media in 3 languages, across 3 major blocks (EU, US, post-Soviet block) and the closest I've seen to an actual journalist who doesn't actively destroys all the good and positive that is in the world is Jon Steward.

And he is a comedian, a clown, who isn't even supposed to know anything, fact-check, dig deeper than the next soundbite or present his viewers opinions they may not like!

rzrwiresunrise:DrPainMD: Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

DrPainMD:Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

Current events caused her to remember the journalistic ideal about fair reporting of facts.She was perfectly fine with the system being biased until now, because it was biased against people she disliked.

Aigoo:HotWingAgenda: God-is-a-Taco: I had no idea RT had a branch for American TV. I figured their wackiness was confined to text.A Filiipino working for a Russian news agency in the US. Huh.

Not a Filipina. A child of Hungarian refugees from Russian pogroms. Who for some reason chose to work for the Russian propaganda agency.

I'm not sure about her news background, but within the news industry, if you're working in Podunk, Nebraska and you get a call from Seattle (9th largest market in the US), you take the job unless it's so morally reprehensible (like, justifying 9/11 or something) you absolutely cannot fathom stomaching it for a nanosecond.

She rightly said she'd walked a tenuous moral and ethical line: so have many of us who have worked in television news. And many of us reached a point where we were no longer willing to do that. I reached mine when a producer deliberately chose not to verify facts--which he could have done with a phone call--and instead chose to air falsehoods that he knew to be false that he also knew were causing a local panic despite being presented with the facts and the means of verifying them (one of the anchors chose to verify the facts and reported the incident to the station manager, who gave the producer an unpaid two week vacation for his trouble, but by then, the damage had been done). Clearly, Wahl reached her point where she was no longer willing to accept a paycheck this week. Good for her.

Criticizing a newscaster (possibly a journalist--some are, some are not) for finding their integrity seems to me to be precisely the wrong thing to do, but hey--this is Fark. Beer and snark are required, logic is not. ;)

...just don't biatch to me about the media not having any integrity when you snipe and biatch when someone in the media finally shows some.

Fark just does it for the shiggles. We don't have any room to criticize with the absolute trainwreck that we call Fark headlines.

way south:DrPainMD: Let me get this straight: she becomes a journalist, knowing that the purpose of journalism is to lie, distort and misinform, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then goes to work for a news outlet that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, then gets upset that the news organization lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers, and then quits. What's she going to do now? Work for another news organization that lies, distorts and misinforms, all in an attempt to sway the opinions of the viewers?

Current events caused her to remember the journalistic ideal about fair reporting of facts.She was perfectly fine with the system being biased until now, because it was biased against people she disliked.

/What was started by CNN and Foxthe world's very first journalist is now a global infection.