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Sellam, Had not thought of that, but it s a great idea, none the less. ;-) As long as we can tell what an egotistical ass**** Von Newmann was, this would be a

Message 1 of 13
, Aug 25 1:59 PM

Sellam,

Had not thought of that, but it's a great idea, none the less. ;-) As long as we can tell what an egotistical ass**** Von Newmann was, this would be a nice aside to the ENIAC to UNIVAC story. There is really very little written about the IAS at Princeton when compared to ENIAC at Penn.

> And, after several weeks of searching, I finally located the power
> switch for our ASR-33. LOL, why didn't any tell me it is right in the
> front??? The teletype turns on and immediately starts clanking away.
> Hey, how do I make it STOP clanking away other than switching it off?
> Never used one of these before. I could RTFM but someone here must know
> the quick version.

It's not that simple. It's looking for line current. You have to connect
a proper power supply to the line to which it expects to be connected. At
that point you can then go into local mode to type stuff, punch a tape,
etc.

> After that, what exhibits should come next? I guess that is open to
> community discussion. The easiest exhibit would be 70s/80s desktops,
> followed by exhibits for (in no special order) minicomputers, gaming,
> portables, storage, computer culture, maybe academic and business
> software, networking, analog . what are YOU interested in?

I think you guys should do some sort of tie-in with Princeton recounting
the early computer work at the IAS.

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... That s what s great about starting your own museum: you get to present the history the way you see fit ;) Another suggestion, if you can find a tie-in for

Message 2 of 13
, Aug 25 2:41 PM

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Jim Scheef wrote:

> Had not thought of that, but it's a great idea, none the less. ;-) As
> long as we can tell what an egotistical ass**** Von Newmann was, this
> would be a nice aside to the ENIAC to UNIVAC story. There is really very
> little written about the IAS at Princeton when compared to ENIAC at
> Penn.

That's what's great about starting your own museum: you get to present the
history the way you see fit ;)

Another suggestion, if you can find a tie-in for him to Camp Evans (you
probably can), is to research and highlight this guy:

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Evan, IAS == Institute of Advanced Studies. It was an early think tank and was John Von Neumann s (corrected my spelling) home base. He tried several times to

Message 3 of 13
, Aug 25 3:05 PM

Evan,

IAS ==> Institute of Advanced Studies. It was an early think tank and was John Von Neumann's (corrected my spelling) home base. He tried several times to move projects away from the Moore School to Princeton where he could be in charge.

Had not thought of that, but it's a great idea, none the less. ;-) As long as we can tell what an egotistical ass**** Von Newmann was, this would be a nice aside to the ENIAC to UNIVAC story. There is really very little written about the IAS at Princeton when compared to ENIAC at Penn.

> And, after several weeks of searching, I finally located the power
> switch for our ASR-33. LOL, why didn't any tell me it is right in the
> front??? The teletype turns on and immediately starts clanking away.
> Hey, how do I make it STOP clanking away other than switching it off?
> Never used one of these before. I could RTFM but someone here must know
> the quick version.

It's not that simple. It's looking for line current. You have to connect
a proper power supply to the line to which it expects to be connected. At
that point you can then go into local mode to type stuff, punch a tape,
etc.

> After that, what exhibits should come next? I guess that is open to
> community discussion. The easiest exhibit would be 70s/80s desktops,
> followed by exhibits for (in no special order) minicomputers, gaming,
> portables, storage, computer culture, maybe academic and business
> software, networking, analog . what are YOU interested in?

I think you guys should do some sort of tie-in with Princeton recounting
the early computer work at the IAS.

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Sellam, We already know that people at Camp Evans paid to use the differential analyzer at the Moore School, so however tenuous, there is a link to Vannevar

Message 4 of 13
, Aug 25 3:34 PM

Sellam,

We already know that people at Camp Evans paid to use the differential analyzer at the Moore School, so however tenuous, there is a link to Vannevar Bush. This would be something for someone not hyper about computers to research.

> Had not thought of that, but it's a great idea, none the less. ;-) As
> long as we can tell what an egotistical ass**** Von Newmann was, this
> would be a nice aside to the ENIAC to UNIVAC story. There is really very
> little written about the IAS at Princeton when compared to ENIAC at
> Penn.

That's what's great about starting your own museum: you get to present the
history the way you see fit ;)

Another suggestion, if you can find a tie-in for him to Camp Evans (you
probably can), is to research and highlight this guy:

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... No one s really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves. He is like a rich vein of computer history that has gone mostly untapped over the

Message 5 of 13
, Aug 25 7:24 PM

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Jim Scheef wrote:

> We already know that people at Camp Evans paid to use the differential
> analyzer at the Moore School, so however tenuous, there is a link to
> Vannevar Bush. This would be something for someone not hyper about
> computers to research.

No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves. He
is like a rich vein of computer history that has gone mostly untapped over
the years. Mostly because he was a very high level mover and shaker, but
his contributions were still monumental.

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... The military electronics historians recognize his work, and he gets due credit. -- Will

Message 6 of 13
, Aug 26 8:07 AM

> No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves.

The military electronics historians recognize his work, and he gets due credit.

--
Will

John Allain

... credit. If he doesn t have any museum space anywhere in the world I d be surprised. If so (no space), then tremendous opportunity. But... He s known for

Message 7 of 13
, Aug 26 1:47 PM

>> No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves.

> The military electronics historians recognize his work, and he gets due

credit.

If he doesn't have any museum space anywhere in the world I'd be surprised.
If so (no space), then tremendous opportunity. But... He's known for
thought
experiments ... I'd kinda like building a physical memex but that would
ignore all the real world stuff we have now and are supposed to be curating.

Other "real world" stuff we have is members with expertise (and their own
collections) and connections to the outside like Claude and Dimitri.

John A.

Jim Scheef

Sellam, If Vannevar Bush had pushed for electronic computers, I would agree completely. He certainly had his hand in many technology projects in the thirties

Message 8 of 13
, Aug 27 9:21 PM

Sellam,

If Vannevar Bush had pushed for electronic computers, I would agree completely. He certainly had his hand in many technology projects in the thirties and forties. My view of him is undoubtedly colored by the books I have read about ENIAC.

> We already know that people at Camp Evans paid to use the differential
> analyzer at the Moore School, so however tenuous, there is a link to
> Vannevar Bush. This would be something for someone not hyper about
> computers to research.

No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves. He
is like a rich vein of computer history that has gone mostly untapped over
the years. Mostly because he was a very high level mover and shaker, but
his contributions were still monumental.

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I asked Fred about VB and Camp Evans. Fred says that in one of the oral history projects, a former Camp Evans scientist claimed that VB did visit once, but

Message 9 of 13
, Aug 27 9:29 PM

I asked Fred about VB and Camp Evans. Fred says that in one of the oral
history projects, a former Camp Evans scientist claimed that VB did
visit once, but that's it -- no elaboration and no evidence. Next time
I see Fred, I will ask him if the scientist is still alive and
accessible, and if so then I'll contact him to see if there is any other
information about VB's visit (when it happened, for what reason, etc.)

If Vannevar Bush had pushed for electronic computers, I would agree
completely. He certainly had his hand in many technology projects in the
thirties and forties. My view of him is undoubtedly colored by the books
I have read about ENIAC.

> We already know that people at Camp Evans paid to use the differential

> analyzer at the Moore School, so however tenuous, there is a link to
> Vannevar Bush. This would be something for someone not hyper about
> computers to research.

No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion) deserves.
He
is like a rich vein of computer history that has gone mostly untapped
over
the years. Mostly because he was a very high level mover and shaker,
but
his contributions were still monumental.

A friend has asked if I can read some old files from zip disks that were attached to a Mac. The files are a combination of Quark (Express?) and pdf s. Anyone

Message 10 of 13
, Oct 29, 2007

A friend has asked if I can read some old files from
zip disks that were attached to a Mac. The files are
a combination of Quark (Express?) and pdf's. Anyone
think they might be able to help? I'm guessing the
files are 10-12 years old. Not sure.

> > No one's really given the man the credit he (in my opinion)
> deserves.
>
> The military electronics historians recognize his work, and he gets
> due credit.
>
> --
> Will
>

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, Oct 30, 2007

> A friend has asked if I can read some old files from
> zip disks that were attached to a Mac. The files are
> a combination of Quark (Express?) and pdf's. Anyone
> think they might be able to help? I'm guessing the
> files are 10-12 years old. Not sure.
>
> Thanks,
>

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Dave

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>
> A friend has asked if I can read some old files from
> zip disks that were attached to a Mac. The files are
> a combination of Quark (Express?) and pdf's. Anyone
> think they might be able to help? I'm guessing the
> files are 10-12 years old. Not sure.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Grieb
>

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can pop the files onto a CD for you...

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> > A friend has asked if I can read some old files from
> > zip disks that were attached to a Mac. The files are
> > a combination of Quark (Express?) and pdf's. Anyone
> > think they might be able to help? I'm guessing the
> > files are 10-12 years old. Not sure.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
>
> I have a MAC/Zip set up if you have not already received an offer for
> assistance. Contact me directly if needed.
> Bill
>
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