Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:15 - Apr 6 by JackSomething

Tommy, I had some hope when he came in, having no real knowledge of him before he won the party leadership. His views seemed largely in view with my own in a lot of areas. I've largely ignored the press bollocks about his terrorist links and train publicity stunts to judge him on his record.

Nothing he has done while he has been in power has convinced me he'd be a good PM and he's been an incredibly ineffectual leader of the opposition at a time when he's got an open goal to aim at considering the job our government are doing.

As others have said, his waffling on Europe has been awful. Either do as was suggested a page or two ago and be honest about his feelings on Europe (he wants out) or commit properly to backing another option like a second referendum. Instead he's waffled about, committing to nothing, hoping the government will mess up so badly that he'll win the next election by default. Considering the carnage Brexit is causing to our political system, I think it's fair to say that tactic is not going to work.

It's great that you support him, but you're beginning to sound like Trampie about Plaid and nobody wants to be Trampie.

Excellent post, it needed to be said.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:18 - Apr 6 with 873 views

*Ireland this afternoon pointed out that an EU member would not be forgiven if they vetoed an extension.*

Do as the EU says or you’ll be punished.

Seeing as I've just posted about Tommy and his intractability about Corbyn, you're even worse. If you can't see how that post is complete bollocks, then I worry for your comprehension levels. There's plenty of easy targets to attack when it comes to the EU and you still manage to miss spectacularly. Well done.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:24 - Apr 6 with 854 views

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:15 - Apr 6 by JackSomething

Tommy, I had some hope when he came in, having no real knowledge of him before he won the party leadership. His views seemed largely in view with my own in a lot of areas. I've largely ignored the press bollocks about his terrorist links and train publicity stunts to judge him on his record.

Nothing he has done while he has been in power has convinced me he'd be a good PM and he's been an incredibly ineffectual leader of the opposition at a time when he's got an open goal to aim at considering the job our government are doing.

As others have said, his waffling on Europe has been awful. Either do as was suggested a page or two ago and be honest about his feelings on Europe (he wants out) or commit properly to backing another option like a second referendum. Instead he's waffled about, committing to nothing, hoping the government will mess up so badly that he'll win the next election by default. Considering the carnage Brexit is causing to our political system, I think it's fair to say that tactic is not going to work.

It's great that you support him, but you're beginning to sound like Trampie about Plaid and nobody wants to be Trampie.

A very good post and very fair

You are a decent man

I hope he resigns after this Brexit fiasco And we can all move on

He’s taken the Labour Party from a central fiasco floundering in the state of oblivion under brown and Milliband and got another way back out in the open

Let’s hope someone can take it forward because the country needs it Bravo Sir

I’m still trying to come to terms with the view that Corbyn has somehow played a blinder through all this. What has he achieved? No one who’s read this forum will accuse me of being either a Tory or a Blairite but by god I struggle to comprehend the cult of Corbyn.

But this nonsense is a distraction from the fact that that we’ve been led to this precipice by Tories. All tories. This current position is all down to tories. And that is quite simply a fact.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:26 - Apr 6 by exiledclaseboy

I’m still trying to come to terms with the view that Corbyn has somehow played a blinder through all this. What has he achieved? No one who’s read this forum will accuse me of being either a Tory or a Blairite but by god I struggle to comprehend the cult of Corbyn.

But this nonsense is a distraction from the fact that that we’ve been led to this precipice by Tories. All tories. This current position is all down to tories. And that is quite simply a fact.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:24 - Apr 6 by oh_tommy_tommy

A very good post and very fair

You are a decent man

I hope he resigns after this Brexit fiasco And we can all move on

He’s taken the Labour Party from a central fiasco floundering in the state of oblivion under brown and Milliband and got another way back out in the open

Let’s hope someone can take it forward because the country needs it Bravo Sir

Thank you Tommy and I understand why you've posted a lot of what you have about Corbyn. As ECB has said above, there are a few on this thread (and plenty outside this forum) who are trying to shift the blame to Corbyn when it was a Tory government that called the referendum in the first place as a means of controlling a wing of their own party, never thinking for a moment that Leave would actually win, and it's a Tory government currently making a balls of the whole thing (I would have sympathy as it's such a no-win scenario, but they are the ones who invoked Article 50 without a plan in place to follow through on it).

Anyway, the Swans won in some style, so let's all go to bed happy and ignore the whole shower of sh*t in Parliament for a few hours.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:41 - Apr 6 with 804 views

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:36 - Apr 6 by oh_tommy_tommy

“Cult”

There it lies

Facking hell come on man

Cult ,spewed out by the Tory media Digested by the thick

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Because you're in the cult you cannot see how silly you look.

Corbyn is useless, everyone knows this beyond the cult. The tories have been in power for 9 years Tom... 9 years.

That in normal times would mean an opposition at least 10 points ahead, when you factor in T.May as PM, the brexit fiasco, the most incoherent fractured Gov in peace time history you'd think labour would be doing rather well.

Yet fan boys like yourself are creaming themselves over single digit leads in random opinion polls.

Wake up man

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 00:01 - Apr 7 by rockinjk

Because you're in the cult you cannot see how silly you look.

Corbyn is useless, everyone knows this beyond the cult. The tories have been in power for 9 years Tom... 9 years.

That in normal times would mean an opposition at least 10 points ahead, when you factor in T.May as PM, the brexit fiasco, the most incoherent fractured Gov in peace time history you'd think labour would be doing rather well.

Yet fan boys like yourself are creaming themselves over single digit leads in random opinion polls.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 23:20 - Apr 6 by JackSomething

Seeing as I've just posted about Tommy and his intractability about Corbyn, you're even worse. If you can't see how that post is complete bollocks, then I worry for your comprehension levels. There's plenty of easy targets to attack when it comes to the EU and you still manage to miss spectacularly. Well done.

I haven’t missed anything. You just need to wake up.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 09:03 - Apr 7 by exiledclaseboy

Tories threatening the prospect of the rise of the far right if we have to take part in the European elections next month. How ironic given their own lurch to the right.

Have you noticed how many of the right wing are “threatening” or”warning” about this prospect

The real terms are hoping and facilitating

They can call off the dogs easily, the right wing are all intertwined it’s run like a military operation. They’re quite happy for the “boys” to get out on the streets, while in public not approving of their actions

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 10:58 - Apr 7 with 581 views