2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

Positively Pugnacious: New Model Drifts Toward Perfection

For 2013, Hyundai engineers put the squeeze on the Genesis Coupe's naturally aspirated 3.8-liter V-6 with nice, cooling, high-pressure fuel being sprayed directly into the combustion chamber, permitting the compression to rise from 10.4:1 to 11.5:1, bumping output (on premium fuel) to 348 hp at 6400 rpm and 295 lb-ft of torque at 5300 rpm. In addition to implementing direct injection, engineers made numerous chassis, body, and interior tweaks to Hyundai's sportiest rear-drive offering, all in the name of keeping up with the 323-horsepower 2012 Chevy Camaro and soon-to-be-released 305-horse 2013 Ford Mustang. Considering all these improvements to the Gen Coupe, now may not be the best time to save a few bucks on the outgoing model, or to rush out and plop money down on one of the Americans.

To show us just how far the refreshed Gen Coupe has come, Hyundai invited us to Pahrump, Nevada, for a day of hot-lapping at Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch. On the short but technical West Loop, we found the DI V-6's power delivery smooth and linear, and throttle response quicker than even the best forced-induction engine can match. At the low end of the tachometer, the six never feels slow, but you'll want to keep the six-speed manual transmission busy for best results. While we're on the subject of transmissions, customers will have the option of either the manual or the new eight-speed automatic. Hyundai claims the manual "has been extensively refined to provide more driver-friendly shift gating and balanced weighting precision. The clutch takeup, feel, and engagement characteristics also have been refined for optimum shifting ease and feel." Our take? It still is a ways from a great clutch and transmission. There is negligible feel in the pedal, and shifting can be a bit ponderous, with a plasticky clunk from gear to gear. We didn't have the option of testing the new eight-speed paddle-operated automatic on the track, but our impression from the road loops led us to believe it might actually be the better of the two.

Although we aren't buying the idea that you'll see tracks across the country filled with weekend warriors in Genesis Coupes, the short road course did prove revealing. The seating position in cars equipped with power seat bottoms is extremely compromised for anyone over 6 feet tall, and the problem is amplified by having to wear a helmet. I had to recline too far back, seeking a compromise between cramped legs and outstretched arms. It took me a while, but I finally realized why it felt so familiar. The Genesis Coupe, which lives on the large side of its competitive set, seems to share seating geometry with the Miata. If only I could put the top down on the Genesis.

Less than ideal positioning means it takes longer than normal to get comfortable with the car. Once I was, it again started to feel similar to a Miata -- the newer, more sterilized versions, not the preferred classic style. Standing on the brakes returned a little rear-end dance that didn't inspire a lot of confidence in the high-speed sections of the track, thus discouraging frequent trail braking. Turn-in comes with a decent amount of understeer and requires a bit of patience before going back on throttle, but mid-corner behavior is neutral. The key is slow throttle inputs, which get the weight settled back and allow for power to be put down. Get more aggressive with the throttle, and the back end will start swinging wide.
To keep that back end in check, Hyundai now offers a three-stage traction/stability control system for various levels of delinquency. With all systems on, the car feels frustrated and neutered, the computer constantly stepping in to slap you across the knuckles when you get out of line. Throttle control becomes a request, and every pedal prod is accompanied with a "pretty please?" With everything completely off, you'd better be on your game, as the tail will take the fast way around the turn before you can say "drift king." The middle setting, however, is quite comforting, allowing athletic, if not artistic, tire-spinning sideways action when exiting turns. On public roads, I used the middle stage since it allowed for a safe amount of tire spin when pulling out into traffic or crossing a busy intersection.

After a day at the track, we made the trip down to our testing facility in Fontana, California, where we ran the Hyundai through our normal battery of tests. We expected the 2013 to be a couple tenths quicker from 0 to 60 mph and were pleasantly surprised -- the 2013, at 5.2 seconds, chopped six-tenths off the time from the last 2011 3.8 Track we tested. The 2013 also ran through the quarter mile in just 13.9 seconds at 102.2 mph, which is 0.3-second quicker and 1.8-mph faster than before. For comparison, the last Infiniti G37S Coupe we tested needed 5.4 seconds to hit 60 and 13.8 seconds at 101.3 mph to nip the quarter, while the most recent Mustang V-6 required 6.2 for 60 and 14.5 seconds at 97.3 mph for the quarter.

No matter what we tried, the Gen Coupe just wouldn't stop understeering when entering a corner.

On our figure-eight handling test, we found the 3.8 Track to exhibit the same traits we experienced on the racetrack. No matter what we tried, the Gen Coupe just wouldn't stop understeering when entering a corner. That said, we were still impressed with how easy it was to drift the coupe's back end around on exit, attributable in part to the real-deal Torsen-type rear limited-slip differential. Our tester also utilized the standard camber bolts (Hyundai includes these in the glove box), which dial up negative camber to 2 degrees in order to maintain maximum rubber on the road when cornering. Running a time of 25.5 seconds at 0.76 g (avg), the 2013 3.8 Track proved 0.2-second quicker than its predecessor as well as 0.5-second speedier than the aforementioned Mustang.
Around car-crazy Orange County, the warmed-over Genesis Coupe had no problem turning heads, with most of the longing looks coming from Accord Coupe and G37 drivers. I must admit the styling has won me over, ridiculously fake hood vents and all. Photographs don't do the Coupe justice. And although the GT-R-esque front grille might be a little racer-ish, the 2013 has far better proportions than the outgoing model's.Our Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track came in at $33,875, which puts it smack in the middle of some serious competition. (For a couple grand less, the R-Spec offers all the performance and most of the luxury, and the new turbocharged 274-horse I-4 drops the price even further.) Hyundai made claims of the Gen Coupe going head-to-head with the likes of Mustang and Camaro, and why not -- the last time we compared a 3.8 Track against the V-6 ponycars, the Hyundai won. But that was then and this is now. Which means we'll have to wait to declare a new king of the V-6 hill until we can gather all the freshened iterations. Till then, the new Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track looks to be one pugnacious contender.

I got to test drive this car and the 2.0T is almost nice enough to justify not paying the price premium for the 3.8. I would love to be able to trade up for this car because as underrated as I think it is, it does a lot of things very well. Unlike the Subaru/Scion it doesn't obviously feel like it's built to a price point so its interior is NOT so obviously cheap and plasticky. AND the added bonus of not getting left standing still in those always-entertaining stoplight drag races. Good luck accomplishing that in a FR-S.

After reading this article about 3 months ago, I test drove the 3.8 Track and fell in love. I am now as of this week an owner a 3.8 Track. What started as a quest for a Porsche Cayman or 370z Nismo put me smack in the bed of Hyundai. If you had told me 6 months ago when I first started looking that this would be my choice, I would have called you a liar and probably thrown something at your head, now I couldn't possibly be happier with the choice I made. The Porsche was better balanced, and the Nismo was better looking, but at the expense of a modicum of performance I have a fun sports car that I can track. What more could you want?

I have to say I love my Gen coupe. It's a 2012, and Ii
bought it just 3 weeks before the new one came out. I was out of the loop so I
had no idea the new one was on the way. Not a fan of the front on the new
model, or the interior dash set up. The torque meter nobs can burn for all I
care. However that extra power, direct injection, and 8 speed with the traction
control option sounds really nice. Now comparing it to the new V6
mustangs...... hahaha as much as I love my Gen, I know better. Since the new
2013 mustang they have really brought it out well.

Nonetheless I'd still have the Genesis because it's a GT
car, a true Gran Tour. I don't see the point in the Track, or R Spec because if
you really wanted track performance just go with the mustang and performance
pack.

I bought my coupe first because I wanted a sporty car key
word sporty not a sports car. I didn’t want a manual because traffic where I
live is at times horrendous and I’d rather not deal with it. Not to mention hahaha
I get a little excited being able to feel the power of the car. I didn’t want a Bro-Stang, because everyone
has one, and if you have one manual is the only way. No to the Camero, (Used to
have one and loovvveed it) but it’s too heavy. Not to mention the options I
wanted would cost extra. No to the BMW again need a Manual, and cocks tend to
drive them around these parts. The same could be said for the 370 Z. So that
left me with this.

Plus for what I saw out the adverts with the 3.8 GT, it was
honest. I drove from Austin to Salt Lake non stop and it was sweet!28-30 mpg, great in the back road bends
through Colorado, and extremely comfortable. Continued on to the west Coast in
Oregon and it was bliss. Usually I would
have had a sore rear but not with this car. It’s a great car for long trips, an
everyday driver and good for the occasional rushing sensation of sweet
acceleration.Not to mention the
options, and the sound of the exhaust.I
recommend it.

Plus I’m getting married soon and I get to keep the
car!!Because by the time we have kids
and they outgrow the back seats…. I’ll have a CTS-V or the sort.

It's actually a good thing i have a Hyundai because i get to see this car up close. It's stunning. It has some of the same features you get in a G37 coupe, but it also has an engine that doesn't sound like a coffee blender.

Take it all and love em ,could the dark ages be days past.Front engine rear drive manual gear box,that's that ole s'cool recipe for fun . Under 30g v6 or 14 barley whip with a 8 and at twice the price. Not much of a comparison. mr.jrh0341 you need to get with the times. The 5.0 or commonly referred to it's original name 302 was a decent engine 25yrs ago 30yrs ago it was crap 40yrs ago when it grew up from the 289 it was a mediocre engine .i have a 331 (5.4) in my fi50 and i bet i could mop the floor with your dinosaur. Love it for what it aint, another high reving turbo lagging front or all wheel drive must rely on the e-brake to turn the damn thing. The rest of car manufacture take note so the real fun will begin.... one more thing mr jrh0341 if my crew cab won't whip you i know my pinette will whats a pinette. take a 72 pinto hollow it out set it down on ac4 chassis (corvette) and you have instant fox body beater sn95 spanker new gen thriller .tried to get a new laguna seca to run but 400.00 bucks a gear kinda scarred him .or the rat rod look of pinette ethier one was weak you want go in a straight line or the twisties i don't care here the kicker i only spent 1400 bucks total building it i'm not into giving praise to all things a Hyundai they used to be a generic honda but that was days of old they obvisouly been paying attention so so my applause to hydaui and toyota(scion)

continued from last post... Assuming one wanted to play V6 to V6, instead of the obvious option of simply buying a 5.0 GT and bullying that little Hyundai, you could take that 33K, pick up a Stang V6 with the performance pack added. Between the perf pack axle ratio, suspension adjustments, and braking upgrades, the Stang acceleration, handling and 1/4 mile numbers go back to beating the Genesis. Well, except for the little bit of extra weight, you know, from the leftover 8 THOUSAND dollars you still have in your pocket. I'm not trying to be a fanboy (yes, 5.0 owner), nor am I trying to bash the genesis coupe, but come on. Hyundai needs to stop trying to pretend they have a Mustang fighter, or a muscle car fighter at all. They tried ... and... failed. They need to just save face, and go back to the G37, 370Z arena and try to pretend that's where they meant to end up. (And try to ignore the vicious swarm of Subaru BRZ coupes swarming around them like hornets.)

Wow. The Genesis should be embarrassed. All that talk about this model matching up to the Mustang V6 almost had me nodding.... almost. Then you got to the price. 33K+??? WTF? Fail. That ridiculous price point reminds us of what the Genesis coupe really, and always wished it really could be, a V6 competitor to the Mustang GT. Not even CLOSE. There is no point comparing it to a V6 stang when that price point puts it squarely in 5.0 GT and Camaro SS territory. The 2010 Genesis wanted to come out and battle the GT, and just barely could not compete. They tried tweaking it the next year, but WHOOPS! Ford went and rolled out their 5.0 Coyote engine, making 412HP, and the Genesis went from "can't quite keep up" to "knife in a gunfight". So, they went back to "oh the Genesis is our V6, to battle the other V6s". Yeahhhhh right.... Except that V6 still came in here at 33k+ F'n dollars. Assuming one wanted to play V6 to V6, instead of the obvious option of simply buying a 5.0 GT and bullying that litt

Not that I ever wanted to brag about owning a Hyundai but I will start I was an ASC Corvette Mechanic for 5 years out of school. I have owned 3 Vette's loved them all 88, 94, 06. Also many Z28's even the 89 Iroc. I ordered a 2013 Gen Coupe Touring and added the wing. So I got everything the car has to offer but the Brembo Brakes. Let's face it, I am not going to the track every weekend or I would own a non-street legal car.. After owning the car for 1 week I can say I am impressed, I just took a road trip and everything was so easy to use. Power is very good even at 120 it still pulls, my wife has a brand new 328I and we both like the Gencoup better for 15k about less. For the people how hate the front- end, I am one of them however it grows on you when people stop and stair and ask who makes that. Now let's see the Camaro or pony car out handle it.

Genesis coupe is close competition to G37 - Hyundai never intended to go against mustang.Yes r-spec is a bit fester - it is a bit lighter...but if you are fat - you negate the difference.lolR-spec 1/4mile is 13.6s (shifting 500rpms before redline - insidelane - due to engine management intervention )- it is a low 13s car when taken to actual drag strip and refleshed so there is no engine depowering when taken to redline.MT is horrible at testing cars - they got 14.5s for old genesis - they retested later (after others got better #) and got 14.1s in 1/4mile.Genesis comes with very narrow front tires, which undermines its handling - 225/40v6 mustang comes with 255 on front ... z370, G35 has 245 on front...rear tires are also narrower then mustang v6 and z370 - Gen can do way better when equipped with appropriate tires for its weight.

This car has too much going on in the front, and that huge black mouth makes it look like an ugly catfish. And since when did Hyundai start using LED lights at the bottom of the front of the car just like Mercedes?? I just wish Hyundai could be more original, then maybe everyone would finally take them seriously. And fake hood vents too? I smell a wannabe car..

Motor trend, your comparisons are only partially correct in that 1.) You are comparing a manual against an automatic. The Genesis Coupe manual ran a 0 to 60 time of 5.4, that is NOT .6 seconds off the time and the Mustang ran a blistering 5.1. Let's see what the 2013 Genesis Coupe runs with an automatic. Don't get me wrong, I own a Genesis Coupe and love the car, it just saddens me to think with the added horsepower and torque the car is as slow as it is considering the Mustang runs 13.7 in the quarter with just a 305HP V6, a 348HP Genesis Coupe should run no less than 13.5 or even 13.3, what's up with that, why so slow. Well not slow but not as fast as I thought it would be.

Would you guys PUH-LEASE stop acting as if this coupe is playing to the same market as Camaros and Mustangs?! In reading the article, it's even mentioned those head turners are Honda and Infiniti drivers. Mustang and Camaro shoppers generally have a sense of the namesplate's heritage, origin, and generally bad-assery - and could absolutely care less about a grinder that plays more the Z, NOPI market. Maybe you actually have some car guys at the magazine that can explain why this comparision is dimwitted and irritating...

The R-Spec is no faster, it's simply the "race-spec", meaning it has the track goodies, minus leather/premium goodies, though there are options to still get these, I have heard the sporty track wing is also unavailable on the R-spec which is insainly displeasing, at the very least offer it as an option.After riding in the new 5.0 Mustang, SS Camaro, SRT-8 Challenger, and 370Z though each has traits I liked, the Genesis Coupe is a balenced car aimed at being great at all task but not perfect, and at it's cost, it's stability under power, and brake feel I'd easily choose to modify it at a heavy cost for a great platform with which to work with. But it's not my RX-7 '93 TT.

Please read my post starting from the last one below, in order to make sense of my multiple posts.The best models to compare are the Mustang V6 Premium to the Gen coupe V6 R-Spec. Then add the Mustang Performance pkg and 3.31 axle. This brings both cars more in line with what extras they offer. In this configuration, the Mustang has a better audio system and has full leather seating.The Gen coupe is partial leather and cloth, and a lower powered audio system. BTW, HID/xenon headlights are included across the Mustang line. Great decision to include that useful feature!In those configs the Gen coupe MSRP: $29,730The Mustang V6 Premium w/perf pkg (includes the 3.31 axel) MSRP: $28,990, call it $29,000. Price difference about $730!Basically, both the Mustang V6 and Gen coupe V6 are both very nice RWD sport coupes, that can be optioned to suit anyone's taste. I don't think anyone choosing either is making a mistake.

However, it's not a fair price comparison to ignore that one car has more things and costs more because of it, and then conclude the other car is better because it has the same performance and costs less. That doesn't tell the truth nor the whole story.The real "problem", if there is one, is that Hyundai increased it's pricing by some $2000 on this model over last year. I think that was a mistake. Ford actually dropped the base price by about $110. For most potential buyers added features and options are what they want. So, there is a real justified reason for why we need to compare automobiles with nearly the same equipment, because real buyers want those things. Better audio systems, BT connectivity, USB integration, etc... All that costs money.Continued-

Let's keep the base Mustang V6. We then add the Performance pkg., which will give us the 19" wheels and performance tires that match up to the Gen coupe. That will also give us better brakes, along with the 3.31 axle ratio to help this Mustang achieve it's same/near same 0-60 and 1/4 mile.Adding that performance pkg. brings MSRP to: $24,990 call it $25,000.Gen coupe $29,730 - Mustang $25,000.Difference is now $4730. No where near that $7k-$8k difference.So, the Mustang V6 costs less with those performance enhancing options. Great. But, it still doesn't have features that the Gen Coupe has, like Bluetooth, partial leather seats and trim, and the better looking interior and materials.There is an understandable case to be made b some that they don't want those things, and that they just want the performance of the Mustang V6 and not have to pay for the extras. I can appreciate that and I agree.Continued-

Let's start with base price for a base Mustang V6, no options - MSRP: $22,995, call it $23,000. That Mustang is bare bones and looks the part. Yes, it has a 6spd manual and LSD, and that's about it for performance, as it comes with 17" all season tires, and basic brakes. That model's overall performance won't match up very well to a base Gen coupe V6 R-Spec.Base Gen coupe V6 R-Spec, MSRP: $29,730 with $105 added for floor mats.So, $29,730 compared to $23,000 is a difference of $6730. Yes, that's substantial. But, the difference in what the Gen coupe has is substantial as well.Yes, some may say they don't want or need this or that, but still, you can't just throw out the cost of that item to prove a point. I'm not sure, but a sunroof comes in the touring and track models. It may come in the V6 R-Spec.To get the Mustang V6 to nearly the same performance level and extras we have to add a few items to the Mustang. Continued-

The price differences being thrown out by some folks is plain false. There is NOT a $7K to $8K difference between a V6 Mustang and V6 Gen. coupe V6 R-Spec.Let's look at reality. First, the Gen coupe R-Spec is the lowest priced of the V6's. It comes with things the base Mustang V6 does not. The only real and true way to compare the prices between two cars is to equip them with features that are as close as possible. If you don't do that, then the price comparison is false. It's like saying a bag of groceries from store A costs $50 and from store B it's $60, but the store B bag has more food in it. The truth reveals a much close price point than the imagined $7k-$8K difference.-Continued.

I like this updated coupe a lot. It's not a new model, so Hyundai is working on the next gen. Given what the update version gives, the new model will be an even greater contender for a new Mustang, and Camaro.I know there are a lot of Mustang fans here who simply don't like the idea that a non Mustang can match it's performance and even exceed it. The torque difference between the two is only 15lb ft, but HP difference is 43HP. That makes a difference in top end potential.Many of you have pulled out 1 test where the V6 did a very quick 0-60 and 1/4 mile. But, that's just one test, and the real number to be used is the average of what the V6 Mustang can do. C&D has a MT Mustang V6 at 5.4 to 60, but 14sec@104MPH in the 1/4! Great numbers.Basically, in reality 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are about the same. Between these cars it's a drivers race.

I'll accept that the '13 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track is probably quicker around a road course* than the current Performance Package equipped Mustang V6 (the 113 mph speed limiter kills the 'Stang on all but the shortest straights) but a 'Stang with all the go fast equipment is $7-8k less than the Hyundai pony (again, not to be confused with the Hyundai Pony, which stunk)and I really don't need Leather, HID headlights, a sunroof or navigation to get around a road course or driver's road!! Also, unless the acceleration figures are from a Performance Package, manual transmission equipped Mustang V6 coupe, they're bogus to use for a comparison (most V6 PP mt test figures I've seen are a few tenths slower than the 5.1 second 0-60 and 13.7 sec. 1/4 mile blasts recorded by MT's possible ringer 'Stang, but easily a half second faster than the times above). * Driving ANY

@IFIF and Michael Febbo@Motor Trend,What Mustang was THAT?!? I JUST searched the site, and the only Mustang THAT slow was the V6 convertible, and the old coupe with the 4.0 V6! What, did Hyundai pay you for this article? The last comparably equipped Mustang I read about was the one that blasted to 60 in 5.1 seconds, and did the quarter mile in 13.8. By MT's own words, this iteration of the Genesis wasn't fully baked, and it sounds like Hyundai threw content and power in the mix, just to make it sound more appealing (and sell more than the meager amount that it did). After all, who wants an annoyingly understeering, yet fearfully tail-happy car that can only be safely driven with all nannies on? Try again, Hyundai. And Try again, MT.

I assume you mean the V8 'stang since MT says in the article the V6 'stang is a full second slower than the 3.8 Genesis. BTW I set up a V8 'stang premium with Brembo's, HID's, sunroof, upgraded telematics, dual zone climate control and everything else it adds up to just shy of $43,000. I'll use that stuff 85% of the time I'm in the car. The other 15% when I'm driving hard I'll smile, even when a 5.0 flys by. :-P Not to mention the Genesis tuner market is likely to keep growing and attract more and more big name tuners. :-)

I love this car... But it doesn't really compare to a V6 Mustang with the performance pack when you look at performance numbers. Heck, when tested, even the 2011 V6 Mustang w/ perf. pack had a faster 1/4 mile, faster 0-60, faster 0-100, better braking, tighter turning in tight spaces, more cargo volume, better fuel economy, less CO2 emissions, can use regular unleaded, AND $8k less as tested. That being said, this Genesis had a better figure eight, faster passing 45-65, a MUCH better warranty, great modern styling, a much (in my opinion) smoother drive for long trips, and much more HP. If Hyundai could shed some weight off of the Genesis... Epic!But the big factor is that $8,000. Simple bolt-ons for the Mustang for under $2k will easily drop over half a second off of the quarter mile time. The Genesis is a great car, but for $8k more, you do not get $8k more car.All that said, and this is from a Mustang owner, I could really see myself driving in this... I like it!

I like the formula: oldschool RWD Coupe , but this this thing looks still ... "too korean" (not so bad in reality, but still "overdesigned") , and it seems to be too expensive (V6 Camaro and especially Mustang, will be a little "weaker" in performance department , but they looks better and they're cheaper .. and tehy are legends after all .. :)..."This company needs to learn how to do a better job of marketing. Kia's products and Hyundai's products should not be creating competition between themselves." - I always thought that they have a mess there: KIA looks better, but Huiujjdqnndaji seems to be this more "prestigous" ... but You must admit that koreans are doing well .. so maybe ... screw Markeking --> let's go back to basics .. to normal ..

@coupe1if you can order them from the dealer, they're options. and I hope you're not implying that the Genesis would be as quick by "I wonder how much faster the Genesis coupe would be with those added on....." the Mustang V6 is half a sec quicker to the 1/4 mile and 3 mph faster. if you think a CAI and an axle back exhaust will cut 0.5 s off your 1/4 mile time, I got some news for you..I'm not comparing the Gensis V6 to the Mustang GT, altough the Mustang GT wouldn't be much more expensive similarly equipped, especially in the US. You can get the Mustang GT to be much more expensive because there are many options, but similarly equipped, it would be about $2-3k more and a V6 would be $2-3k less (before taxes and other charges). The Genesis offers good performance numbers but not the same value as a Mustang. If you think it does, I suggest you go price one up and a Mustang if you're going to buy.

Agreed with coupe1both well equipped v6 genesis and v6 mustang come to mid-30k. Although with that money you could also get a stripped mustang v8 as well.But I would choose the gencoupe, it has good performance and there are already too many mustangs around.

Technically Hyundai offers "accessories" Extra chrome, key chains, car covers etc... though they do have performance upgrades like a cold air intake and quad tip axle back exhaust. I wonder how much faster the Genesis coupe would be with those added on..... Anyways the point was that that although the genesis coupe is slightly more expensive than an equivalently equipped mustang v6, that doesn't mean it should be compared to the v8 mustang which is clearly much more expensive when equivalently equipped.

@coupe1go to Hyundai Canada website > build and price. you'll find some options.a Mustang V6 with these options in Canada would be a grand or two over $30k. If you can't negotiate for your life, you can probably get a Mustang V6 with these options for about $38k, taxes and freight/destination charges in.

Now Hyundai makes a Elantra coupe. The Genesis coupe and Elantra are fraternal twins? Now what was the purpose of the veloster. I think Hyundai is trying to mimic Honda and GM at the same time. Now they are going to have a rear wheel drive KIA. This company needs to learn how to do a better job of marketing. Kia's products and Hyundai's products should not be creating competition between themselves. Equus?

Just saw this thing at the CIAS:-Fake hood vents that look like eyebrows-Gaping grille with a chrome mustache-Tacky and poorly placed centre console gauges (Fuel Consumption, Torque/Boost, Oil Temp)-Cheap centre console buttons of poor user interface design (check out the hazard button next to the 'button' for the Passenger Air Bag) -Small and cheap-feeling HVAC dials-Genesis Coupe nameplate on centre console, why?Really, the biggest three sins of its exterior and interior design are the gaping grille and chrome 'stache, WTF gauges on the centre console (driver needs to look away from the road to read the gauges... meaning that these gauges are meant only for showing off to passengers), and the fake hood vents.As for how it drives, well, that's a different story. I'm not qualified to give any opinion on the matter...but I do know that this car still has at least one more generation to go before it can really be considered a truly compelling rival to other RWD sports cars.

@theamericanautosThe genesis coupe has no options. In 2012 you could either get a base v6 for 34,000 or the gT for 36,000. For 2013 they dropped the base model and only offer the 3.8gt for $37,000. Keep in mind these comes with sunroof, leather seats, wheel, e-brake, Nav, automatic temperature control, 19 inch wheels, brembos and a whole bunch of other stuff that is an add on to the base mustang v6.

@E D D i ewhat are you smoking? the V6 Mustang was quicker than the old V6 one and it's still quicker than this one. The Hyundai in auto is quicker than the Mustang in auto and it'll probably still be quicker because of the 8 speed auto but with std transmission, the Mustang V6 is quicker. The 5.0 isn't even in the same performance bracket as this Hyundai.@coupe1a V6 with all options is about the same as a base Genesis V6 but once you add the options to the V6 Genesis, it'll be much more expensive, in Canada and the US.

The mustang v6 is the same price as the genesis coupe when you add all the equipment that comes standard in the genesis coupe. In Canada a v6 mustang will cost $36,000 and the genesis 3.8GT is $37,000.

Come on Motortrend. The 3.8 starts at over 29k. This means its really going up against the V8's not the sixes from Ford and Chevy. Just because it has a six doesn't mean you have to put up against one. Start doing comparisons based off of price as well as equipment. That being said, it sounds like Hyundai has done a decent job with the Genesis coupe but, is still quite a bit behind the big guys still. Still a good effort for their first sports car.

This car faces the same problems that the 370Z does. It has good solid numbers, but for the money the domestics simply do it better as bang4buck performance cars.Compared to the g37, the Genesis starts to look better (although as mentioned elsewhere, the G37 numbers quoted here were for a 7AT - the 6MT sedan did 5.0/13.5@105), but it still lacks some of the refinement and luxury accoutrements that the G37 possesses.Seeing as how 370Z sales have been taking a beating (I like the car, but compared to a Mustang GT it is a hard sell), Hyundai will either need to (1) up the Genesis Coupe performance even more or (2) lux it up more to focus more on being a G37 Coupe competitor. Otherwise, same fate as the 370Z

I like where Hyundai is going with this but I'm a little indifferent to that front end, maybe I just need to get used to it. As far as comparing this to the Mustang? Our of the box this might have a slight leg up but the Mustang is extremely easy to mod. The governor issue in particular is very easily rectified. I personally prefer the Mustang but Hyundai keep up the good work.. helps keep everyone on their toes!

@coupe1the 5.8 sec run in the Genesis was in auto (the same conditions when the Mustan got low 6's) the 5.1 sprint in the Mustang was in std and the Gensis got 5.4 in std. MT always (I believe) does roll outs.