Opinions time! My profile is in the sig. Basically, I had the tier legs from the Sha for a while, but had chosen to use my LFR helm/chest for the 2PC because I had the *very* superior legs from Vizier.

But, I just got the LFR tier shoulders last night, which means I could replace the legs from Vizier and shoulders from Ta'yak for the numerically inferior LFR shoulders and Normal Legs for the 4pc. So the basic question is - is the set bonus really worth losing 2k stam? I'm far from convinced...

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

It is Ardent Defender that is reduced by the 2 set, and in which situations is it valuable? You still can't really use it in a cooldown rotation because it has a 2 minute CD and is only a 20% CD (you get DP every ~40 seconds and it is a 20% cooldown), and how often do you think the cheat death actually does something?

I mean, those really seem to be the best I can get from vendors, so I don't know that there's much to discuss there. If anyone has suggestions for anything to change or a different order to plan to purchase those items in, I'm all ears. What I'll plan on doing, though, is using my extra rolls on the next item lower on the list from the item I'll be able to buy that week.

Thanks, Klaudandus. I just found that klaxxi ring, myself. I'm not far from exalted and have all the guys summoned, so I should be able to get that ring this week, knocking that one off the list. I'm pretty far from GL exalted, but I have commendation, so I'll keep working on that and should be a good upgrade.

Out of the items you currently have equipped, I would upgrade the chest. With the boost to your hit and expertise you should be able to swap a hit/haste gem for a stamina/haste (or a pure stamina gem if you don't mind losing the STR socket bonus).

You could always buy the stamina trinket from the ShadoPan for 1750 VP.

Garalon is pure technique and will go down soon enough. Don't spend VP on anything else but upgrades. BTW, is there ANYTHING non-heroic that can beat your belt? Because that's be a safe long-term, if somewhat non-optimal short-term, bet.

When that day comes, seek all the light and wonder of this world, and fight.

Sagara wrote:Garalon is pure technique and will go down soon enough. Don't spend VP on anything else but upgrades. BTW, is there ANYTHING non-heroic that can beat your belt? Because that's be a safe long-term, if somewhat non-optimal short-term, bet.

The belt from the first boss in HoF has 858 Expertise Rating (without a 320 gem in the prismatic) before upgrading, I'd prefer that one to Klaud's. The second boss in HoF drops a belt with Mastery and Haste Rating and two sockets.

Got the Expertise belt off Imperial Vizier, and I'm really wondering if the ease to reach the EXP cap would offset the loss in pure stats.Although, the EXP cap isn't reached yet. Like I said, it's long term vs the short term of easier exp cap reaching.

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Gab wrote:Not sure where you're at with rep but I'd strongly reccomend that instead of upgrades you grab the liquid courage trinket from SP.

I'm going to go ahead and suggest it again... Liquid Courage IMO. Best purchase I have made so far this expansion and quite possibly the coolest name for a trinket ever. A trinket with a controlable, and awesome, on-use vs a crap proc and ilvl 471 to 489 >>>>> Upgrading an item 8 ilvls.

Although in my gear list that belt is BiS so you should upgrade that too, after purchasing the trinket of course.

I'm wondering where to spend my valor points. As for reputation items, the belt and ring from Domination Offensive seem to be very small gains, so I should probably stick to upgrading what I have.

- I have no access to heroic gear, as my guild sticks to 10-man normal mode, where our progress is slow.- I have the raid finder chest token, but didn't use it since it's so inferior to my current chest piece. I have no other T14 item.- Should I first finish upgrading my chest item, since it has both hit and expertise? Then procede with Kilrak?

Jadhzia wrote:As for reputation items, the belt and ring from Domination Offensive seem to be very small gains, so I should probably stick to upgrading what I have.

I bought the belt. You have a very well itemised LFR belt, but even so, if you use the control/haste weighting scheme for AMR, it would be an upgrade of about 1000 points for you. Not stellar, but not "very small" either. The ring, I agree with you, the upgrade seems small.

Personally, I'm not sure about spending VPs on the upgrade system until the picture for 5.2 becomes clearer (will VPs be reset? will new VP gear be accessible to "behind the curve" raiders?) so I am probably going to hoard VPs until I reach the 3000 cap. You could upgrade the chest, as it is very well itemised and you have already partially upgraded it. On the other hand, you'll probably want to swap for the 4pc bonus if you get it or indeed for T15. Nothing lasts forever, though, so I would not be too deterred by that. (You've been very unlucky to just have one tier piece - have you been running the Sha world boss every week?)

Upgrading a weapon seems less of priority for us than most specs, if you read what Theck wrote on his Sacred Duty blog about VP upgrades.

I'm wondering where to spend my valor points. As for reputation items, the belt and ring from Domination Offensive seem to be very small gains, so I should probably stick to upgrading what I have.

- I have no access to heroic gear, as my guild sticks to 10-man normal mode, where our progress is slow.- I have the raid finder chest token, but didn't use it since it's so inferior to my current chest piece. I have no other T14 item.- Should I first finish upgrading my chest item, since it has both hit and expertise? Then procede with Kilrak?

Thanks for any input.

Any luck with sha? In my two tanks, i was able to get the t14 gloves and legs prolly within 6 resets.