Monday, November 24, 2008

Rapture 2008 - Prophecy Puzzle

"Rapture 2008 - Puzzle Palace"

THE RAPTURE: PUZZLE PALACE

MULTIPLE JIGSAW PROBLEM SOLVING

To find this season of the Rapture, it is necessary to exploit a "Multiple Jigsaw Puzzle" system. What?

Well, that's perhaps the best way to describe it. Imagine that you have a jigsaw puzzle with three- fourths of the pieces missing. You assemble it, but the picture is far from complete. This is somewhat of the picture you get from any one of the books of the prophets in the Old Testament or even from the book of Revelation when it comes to the End Times and especially in the case of the Rapture (which is only hinted at, with the word "rapture" not even appearing in the Bible). With all the parts missing in the puzzle, it's impossible to get a complete picture even after all the parts you have are assembled. You have an idea of what the picture is, but not all the details.

Suppose that instead of just one copy of the puzzle, you had four or five jigsaw puzzles, all of thesame scene. They all have parts missing, but some have parts that the others do not have. Suddenly you're presented with the possibility of taking the complete portions of one puzzle and placing it together with the others to create one entire picture. With careful comparison of parts that are common to all the puzzles, you can slowly piece together one complete picture.

This same idea can be applied to the prophecies of the End Times. By carefully comparing the pieces from each passage in the Bible to determine which have common parts, it's possible to then figure which are talking about a common event. Then these can be used as anchor points to assemble a complete picture of what appears in one part of the "puzzle" but not the others. Little by little, the prophesy puzzle can be produced to create an idea of when the Rapture is likely to occur.

Here's what can be discovered using this technique.

The Rapture, Gog, and Hanukkah Puzzle: Putting It All Together

My Conversation with Scott WalkertonFrom RITAI thought I would make this a separate thread in addition to my reply so no one misses it.

Here it is-(reported by a friend of Jerry's):

First of all, Scott is just precious. I can't explain that, he just is. I immediately bonded with him and felt a gentle, kind spirit.

Scott 'died' in March 2001. He was clinically dead for 7 1/2 minutes. He said it felt like he got to heaven in the morning and left at night and couldn't believe he was only there for minutes. Since heaven is eternal there is no concept of time so I guess it feels a whole lot different.

When he started to talk about heaven, I had to ask what kind of people made it there. I asked if he was surprised at any who where there and how "religious" he felt one had to be to make it to heaven. He said he had an uncle who believed in God but did his own thing. The mother of this uncle was in heaven and she said that the uncle, who also had died, was "turned away". That just shook me. When Scott was in heaven, he did know which of his loved ones made it to heaven and which did not. It seems our peace and joy is so full there that nothing will take it away.

Anyway his newly deceased minister, Pastor Rice, Scott and Jesus were talking in heaven about all these things. His minister had died of cancer but before he did he also had a similar death experience and was given insight into the last days. That is what made Scott think to also ask Jesus for signs.

He did not tell me all the signs, but the first 6 of the 7 signs have happened except the last one which is the transfer of power (after the election, due to a national emergency) not being able to take place and the subsequent violence and war.

The second sign was 9-11. Jesus described that to him and said he would see if from within his home. He said strangely enough his appointments all canceled that morning and he turned on the Today Show for the first time in years and watched 9-11 happen before his eyes.

Another sign was the war in Afghanistan.

Then Jesus said your president (Bush) will be forced to make a decision he doesn't want to make and he will be hated for this decision. (I hope I am getting this exactly right) Anyway that sign was the War in Iraq. I thought of all the people who have called President Bush a murderer and a terrorist and he was doing God's will all along. (I for one never doubted that. I have felt in my spirit from the moment I saw him that he was a man of destiny and God had his hand on President Bush. Again, not saying he is perfect, but surely neither am I.)

Jesus spoke of this election and I asked Scott if Jesus seemed to favor President Bush over Obama. He said he didn't. I got the impression that Jesus was matter of fact about these things and said they all had to happen for the end to come.

Jesus said that President Bush would still be in office when we are raptured. He said Jesus has a list of those who would be raptured. He of course spoke of rioting over this glitch and bombs being dropped. He just said all these things had to happen for the rapture to occur and not to fear. Once again President Bush will be falsely accused and attacked.

Scott said that heaven was such a happy place and as soon as he was back in his body he could feel the presence of demons in our world. How wonderful it will be to be in such a happy, innocent, wonderful place. There just aren't words sufficient.

It absolutely blew my mind to talk to someone who had looked into the face of our Lord.

From Mark Copfer:

Ok, I finally, finally think I have most of the puzzle figured out. And this will coincide with Scottâ€™s near death experience when the Lord spoke clearly to him. So here goes.

If you remember, a few weeks back, Colin Powell came out publicly and announced that the world would face an international crises sometime before January 19th I believe.

Folks, it cannot, and absolutely will not get anymore clear. This is talking about the ISRAEL, NOT THE CHURCH. How or why I never saw this is beyond me. Thy Beloved IS ISRAEL.

The year is 2008, and the reason that Obama will not be inaugurated in January, is because of what Colin Powell stated, and what Joe Biden stated publicly.

Israel IS going to attack Iran before the inauguration of Obama, because Bush is the only friend Israel has right now, and he is sitting in the white house.

When Israel attacks Iran, the USA will be involved in Iraq for fueling purposes of the Israel fighter jets, and will be 100% supporting Israel. And a current sitting president CANNOT leave office during an international crisis involving the USA. And folks, I guarantee you that this IS going to happen prior to inauguration day. And when this happens, and Obama does not get into the white house, you are going to witness something that the USA has never seen in its lifetime. Civil unrest and maybe martial law like none other has ever witnessed. These brainwashed Obama supporters are absolutely going to come un-glued because of Israel. It will be the ugliest thing the USA has ever witnessed. And mark my word, Israel is NOT going to do this with Obama in the WHITE HOUSE, simply because they will not be able to use Iraq as their fueling station and the support of Israel by the USA will not be there with Obama in office. This is all going to come to pass, and it perfectly lines up with Scott`s near death experience, and word from the Lord Jesus Christ.&nb sp; I have never been more sure of anything, and now all the pieces to the puzzle are coming together. The only thing open is the timing, but itâ€™s very, very near.

Also, there is another part to this puzzle. And itâ€™s in Scottâ€™s vision from the Lord. During the time Israel attacks Iran, the USA will have some terrific explosions on both the east and west coast, but I do not know if that will be from the enemy or someone theyâ€™ve placed in our country.

It very well could be, but I seem to remember hearing that it would be something that was orchestrated. All I know is that we are so very close to all of this happening, and itâ€™s absolutely incredible. It obviously has to be before January 20th. The time is drawing near, and drawing to a close.

"Dec. 20--Battle of Gog and Magog--WWIII--Sudden Destruction and the Rapture???" - Ron Reese

Hi Doves,

Now that Nov. 15, 2008, has passed, it is time to take a serious look at Dec. 20, 2008, as the possible time of the Rapture/Sudden Destruction. Let us not forget Psalms 108. Let's not look ahead to 2009 just yet. I will be posting soon on why I believe the Rapture and Sudden Destruction are going to happen on the SAME DAY. So for now, this post will concentrate on the possible DAY of the year when The Battle of Gog and Magog--WWIII takes place.

If it is on Dec. 20, 2008, this would certainly qualify as the worldwide and nationwide crisis that so many seem to be seeing BEFORE the Bush administration ends and the Obama administration begins, that could extend the Presidency of Bush indefinitely. On Oct. 29, 2008, it is highly probable that the confirming of the covenant of Dan. 9:27 happened on that day, which was EXACTLY 2520 days from Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015. Obama promised on Oct. 29, 2008, to not only change the U.S., but to also CHANGE THE WORLD!!!

Sept. 23, 2015, is the beginning of a Sabbatical cycle and a Jubilee cycle (according to J.R.Church and Bonnie Gaunt, both of whose research is tops in prophetic circles). 7 X 7 Jewish years from Dec. 6, 1967, brings us right to the EXACT same day, Sept. 23, 2015. Then there are the eclipses also pointing us to that SAME DAY. It SHOULD be next to impossible for anyone reading this to deny that the 70th week of Daniel started 2520 days, or 7 Jewish years, before the date of Sept. 23, 2015, Feast of Atonement ( the Feast Day that most Bible scholars have always pointed towards as the Feast Day for the literal 2nd Coming of Christ). On the VERY DAY that he was supposed to, Oct. 29, 2008, Obama fulfilled Dan. 9:27, giving us the EXACT date of the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel.

Why Dec. 20 for the possible date of the Rapture and Sudden Destruction of Ezekiel 38 and 39--WWIII? Grant Jeffrey is one the most respected prophetic scholars, speaker, and author of many well-researched prophecy books. One of his most popular books was published in 1988, entitled, "Armageddon: Appointment with Destiny". He has been teaching for years that we can know THE DAY of the year of the Battle of Gog and Magog (World War III). He bases this teaching on Haggai, Chapter 2, which seems to be the same battle as the Battle of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38 and 39. He does not tell us we can know the year, only the DAY of the year.

When the Lord mentions the SAME DAY not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES in one chapter, it is highly probable that it is an extremely significant day. In Haggai, Chapter 2, in verse 10, in verse 18, and in verse 20, he gives us the very SAME DAY. Again, not the year, but the DAY of the year. THE DAY of the year mentioned 3 TIMES in Haggai, Chapter 2, is the 24th day of Chisleu, which is on the eve of Hanukkah, which this year is Dec. 20, 2008.

I am now quoting from Grant Jeffrey's book, "Armageddon: Appointment with Destiny", Chapter 7, the final 3 paragraphs in this chapter of this excellent book:

"Although Scripture does not indicate the exact year in which this invasion and defeat will occur, the prophet Haggai reveals that on the TWENTY-FOURTH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH of the Jewish calendar (Chisleu), the day before Hanukkah, God will deliver Israel as He did twice before on this anniversary: (1) the defeat of the Syrian army and recapture of the Temple in 165 B.C. and (2) the capture of Jerusalem from the Turks in A.D. 1917.

The prophet Haggai declares: "The Word of the Lord came unto Haggai in THE FOUR AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE MONTH (CHISLEU), saying, Speak to Zerubbabell, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth; and the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother" (Haggai 2: 20-22)"

"This description and exact language is uncannily like that of Ezekiel 38 and 39, which describe Russia's defeat. The interesting point is that it names THE EXACT DAY of the year on which this will occur. Since so many other prophecies have been so precisely fulfilled to the day, there is a strong likelihood that this event will also occur on its appointed day. "Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is THE DAY whereof I have spoken" (Ezekiel 39:8). God's appointment with Russia is set; it will be kept."

Lest some of you be misunderstand because of the title of the book, Grant Jeffrey is not talking about the Battle of Armageddon and the Battle of Gog and Magog being the same battle, as a few teach. The next obvious question is, "Is 2008 the year of this Battle of Gog and Magog???" It is my contention from my study of Scripture that this Battle of Gog and Magog--WWIII--Sudden Destruction is the likely time of the Rapture. Is the Rapture/Sudden Destruction going to still happen in 2008??? The most likely date that we have left in 2008 is THE DAY of the year that is mentioned THREE TIMES in Haggai, Chapter 2, which is the day before Hanukkah. This year that day is Dec. 20, 2008. I do not know if this is the year for this battle to take place. But if it is, BE READY FOR DEC. 20, 2008, THE POSSIBLE DATE FOR THE FULFILLMENT TO BEGIN.

In 2007 a lady reminded me of a September, 2005 post where I described an unusual e-mail from a reader describing a prophetic experience by the father of his friend, Charles, a pastor. Charles told him that right about the time President Bush was elected president, his father had this interesting experience. The reader said:

"Charles' father, Bob, woke up one night from sleeping. He heard a voice in another room calling him. Bob asked who it was. Bob said that the voice said, 'This is your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.' Bob then went into the room and saw and spoke to the Lord. Bob and the Lord communicated by Bob having a question and Jesus answering the question before Bob could ask it. Charles mentioned the Lord's ability to answer questions in the 'twinkling of an eye' after Bob thought of the question.

"One of the questions that Bob had was, 'Will my family and I all be in Heaven?' Bob has two sons and a wife. The Lord said: 'Yes, all five of you.'

"Bob replied 'Five?,' not understanding where that number came from since they had only four in the family. Then Jesus said: 'Your other son, too.'

"At the moment the Lord said that, Bob remembered the baby that his wife had miscarried years ago. 'He's in Heaven now. He's doing well. You would be proud of him,' the Lord said. Bob was deeply affected by this because Charles started crying a little bit as he continued on.

(Bramlett comment: This supernatural knowledge seems to authenticate the experience.)

"Bob also asked the Lord about a time years ago when he had been diagnosed with a stomach disease. One day while he was at work outside, a man in a dark suit and a bald head had appeared all of a sudden and said to him, 'come with me.' The man then gripped Bob tightly the way you would if you were helping someone to walk somewhere in a hurry. The man walked him out into a parking lot and then left. When Bob went back to the doctor later that week, he had been miraculously healed! Bob asked the Lord if that had been an angel sent to help him. The Lord confirmed that it had been an angel.

"The Lord also told Bob, 'Tell your friends that I am coming soon. There is a Christian President now in office. But that's not going to stop me. I am still coming soon.' Bob took this to mean that Jesus could rapture up the Church before George W. Bush leaves office."

The bible verse that people interpret that we cannot know the day of the rapture is incorrect. This is the most misinterpreted verse in the entire bible.The bible is pretty clear on this also, when he says that ALL things will be revealed to HIS servants and then the end will come.

The verse saying that no man knows the day nor hour, we have to take into account the time period in which Paul was speaking, and to whom he was saying it to. Back then of course they did not know the time of the lordâ€™s return at the rapture, because Jesus was still on earth. But Jesus is in Heaven, and he indeed does know exactly the precise day, hour, minute, second, year of the rapture... And it shall be revealed to his servants in the end times.

Luke 8:9 His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, 'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understandâ€™

Luke 12:42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

The Father had kept certain things sealed and secret until Christ has accomplished his mission in faithfully discharging everything that he came to earth to accomplish. Christ became worthy to UNSEAL the secret things of the Father, according to Revelation 5. Daniel himself was told that the prophecies penned by him were to be closed up and sealed until the time of the end. Daniel 12:9

A Wise Christian is admonished according to Mark 13:33 "Take ye heed, Watch and Pray, for ye not know when the time is.

Does Mark 13:33 imply that only "THAT HOUR" is kept from us, and not "THAT DAY"??? If we are admonished to watch for something, should we not ready and prepare ourselves for when "THAT DAY" arrives and the Lord Jesus Returns??

I will close with John 15:15

Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you"(John 15:15).

Here is a fantastic teaching on date setting, and why the Lord wants his servants to know ALL things, and I take it to heart, to take these scriptures literally. And no scripture is for any private interpretation, period. They say what they mean, and mean what they say... If only people knew and understood the word "Knoweth" in Greek and reading this verse.

Knoweth in Greek means "Present Tense", as in present time that it is spoken. Not the future when the rapture will take place.

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but my Father only"

The case for knowing the day and hour of the LORD Jesus' Return is built upon friendship with the LORD Jesus. He knows when He will return, and He is absolutely willing to share that information with His friends. "Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you" (John 15:15). Only for a short time did Jesus set aside His heavenly glory, and voluntarily limit His knowledge of the future. Thus, He rightly stated that, "of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32). That was then. But now, He is back in Heaven where He is using all of His divine power, as the Saints' Friend and Intercessor, to show them "things to come" (John 16:13).

Kelly Herman (21 Nov 2008)" THE SERVANT CANDLE STICK AND HANUKKAH"

There has been beauty posted lately about this most wonderful dedication of The Temple. John Tng did a wonderful study on Pentecost and the Menorah and Yeshua being "The Servant Candle". This is the candlestick on the Menorah that is used to light all the other candlesticks. It is also used to light the "eternal flame" on the altar which must never go out.

The miracle of one day's worth of oil lasting for eight, shows us a miraculous promise of the MillennialKingdom the Eighth day!

Watch what I saw, when reading Revelation again with new eyes....If anyone else has posted on this, it just means that The Lord is showing something very profound to His saints.

Revelation 1:12

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13AND IN THE MIDST OF THE SEVEN CANDLESTICKS ONE LIKE UNTO THE SON OF MAN, CLOTHED WITH A GARMENT DOWN TO THE FOOT, AND GIRT ABOUT THE PAPS WITH A GOLDEN GIRDLE. (caps emphasis on main point)

Now lets look at Hanukkah, it has eight days, the "Servant Candle position would be the fourth day of this dedication of lights. I truly believe in my studies that others have made aware as well, that our Messiah was conceived on the first day of this dedication. He is The Light of the World.

What if He makes another appearance on the "Servant Candle" position of the fourth day? It is the dedication of the temple! Are we not lively stones?

This very mention of Him among the candlesticks in the "Servant Candle" position gives much to ponder about this coming festival of lights.

My mentor Doc, God Rest his soul, died in July of 2004 trying to finish a book. One of his last thoughts to me was Kel, the rapture will be during the feast of Hanukkah and I will never be convinced of any other time. I (Doc), believe that is what The Lord showed me was the season. I (Kelly) was not convinced. I was still a babe wet behind the spiritual ears. I needed to hear from The Lord on the matter. It has been 4 years and I believe, The Holy Spirit of God is wanting us to pay close attention to this season. He did not tell me this was "the rapture seasonâ€�, I am just sensing it. I am human and prone to error :) My heart has betrayed me in the past.

Earlier this month before, Cheshvan 17, Dave Camp mentioned his beautiful thoughts on Hanukkah and it's symbolism, that is what lead me back to Doc's original statements.

Dave Camp mentioned that (paraphrased) the 10 virgins issue of being ready or not was an issue of "oil".Hanukkah's miracle was an issue of "oil'

The economy the last year has seen a surge in "oil" prices only now after summer to be plummeting on the world market. The price of oil going down in my opinion is of a spiritual notice as well....five had not enough oil!

LIFTOFF 40 DAYS AFTER CHESHVAN 17

By Marilyn Agee, posted 11-17-08

The LORD said unto Noah, "Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in THIS GENERATION" (Gen. 7:1).

In our generation, it is the wise virgins who are righteous before the Lord. Our generation runs about 48.33 years (Mt. 1:17), from the Sign of the End of the Age, the Six-Day War of June 6-10, 1967, to Sept. 14, 2015 (Tishri 1, 5776).

Subtracting the 7-year Tribulation from 5776 brings us to the present year, 5769, which seems to be the year of the Pre-Trib Rapture.

Noah and his family went into the Ark, the Lord closed the door, and it began to rain on Cheshvan 17. Noah had to wait 40 days and 40 nights for the Ark to be floated free of the earth. This year, Kislev 27 (Dec. 24, 2008) seems to represent the day of our Rapture. Like Noah, we have to wait for it.

Like Noah, we need to be called, and chosen, and faithful (Rev. 17:14). Cheshvan 17, 5769 was Nov. 15, 2008. At that point, the Bride of Christ seems to have been chosen. Now, we can see why it is so important to have enough oil of the Holy Spirit to keep our lamps burning until the Ark of the Holy Spirit lifts off the Earth. Lift-off may be on the 40th day, Wednesday, Kislev 24, 5769 (Dec. 24, 2008).

Gen 7:17,18 says, "the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was LIFT UP ABOVE THE EARTH. And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters."

Using Jewish Inclusive Reckoning, because it is a block of time, the 40th day will be Dec. 24, 2008, Christmas Eve. Wow! We are the Bride of Christ, and my parents were married on Dec. 24. Our son was born April 6, the day of the Crucifixion in 30 AD. Our daughter was born on May 29, the day of Pentecost in 30 AD. Now, my parents seem to have been married on the day of the Rapture, Dec. 24, 2008.

According to Rev. 17:14, we must be called, and chosen and faithful. According to Mt. 25:1f, we should be wise virgins with enough oil of the Holy Spirit to keep our lamps lit until liftoff.

"THE BRIDEGROOM TARRIED"

Mt. 25:1-10 says, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels (i.e., bodies) with their lamps. While THE BRIDEGROOM TARRIED (i.e., 40 days and 40 nights), they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone (lit., going) out (i.e., sputtering). But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, THE BRIDEGROOM CAME; and THEY THAT WERE READY WENT IN WITH HIM TO THE MARRIAGE: and the door was shut."

Mt. 24:34-40 says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled (1967 + 48 = 2015). Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. BUT as the DAYS of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And KNEW NOT until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then (at the same time) shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Agape

Notes on the Last Trumpet:

The "last trumpet" to the Hebrews (and to early Christians also) is a key phrase with meaning beyond what most of us realize. This "last trumpet" in this passage isn't the metallic trumpet of the West; rather it's a ram's horn known as the shofar. Blown during the religious festival of Rosh HaShanah (also known as Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets), the shofar marked the beginning of the Jewish New Year.

The shofar is also linked by Jewish tradition to the raising of the dead to life and for sounding the alarm when battle is imminent.

The important thing to note here is that the shofar is linked by Jewish tradition to the resurrection of the dead (which, according to Paul, takes place for those who have died in Christ at the time of the Rapture) and that the shofar is also linked by Bible as an instrument used to warn of battle and conflict. fivedoves.com

3 comments:

Hello Brother Mark! Just checking in to let you know I still read your blog! May not comment much because you are definetely "deep" in your writings and I am not sure on how to comment LOL. But I love reading as your honesty comes through loud and clear. Blessings and much love to you my friend in Christ!

It is good to hear from a brother in Christ from so far from my home.That was the main reason I started blogging last February 2008. I wanted to reach out toothers in the world while there is still time. I sincerely believe our Lord and Savior is comingvery soon to take His Body to be with Him forever.

The Cheshvan 17, - Nov 15th date was a speculation made by a sincere believer.I am a Watcher. The Lord said to watch for Him so that we will not be caught in surprise likethe world that is not watching will. We who have repented of our sins and accepted the FINISHEDwork of Jesus Christ on the cross for payment of our sins are already saved and will not fallunder the WRATH OF GOD that will soon fall on this unsuspecting unbelieving world.

Those who repent now are saved right then, and their spirit will instantly be in heaven...seated in heavenly places.They are changed from being a living human who was spiritually dead to a living person who is now ALIVE SPIRITUALLY.They are given the Holy Spirit at that moment, and can understand God's Word the Bible and the Holy Spirit will TEACH THEM.

I really believe the way things are going in the world....it seems to be fitting very well what the Scriptures say will happenin the last days ..... the days that we ourselves find ourselves living in.

I pray you have accepted our Lord's payment for all our sins and are saved from the wrath to come.Please write me or comment any time brother. I very much enjoy the fellowship.

The Appearing In Heaven

.........The timing of the realization of our BLESSED HOPE......After Israel were put to one side at the end of the book of Acts, Paul was inspired to write Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians 1@Timothy, Titus and Philemon.
In Ephesians we read of the wonderful new hope set before us believers today;
Eph 2:1 And He has made you alive, who were once dead in trespasses and sins,
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love with which He loved us
Eph 2:5 (even when we were dead in sins) has made us alive together with Christ (by grace you are saved), Eph 2:6 and has raised us up together and made us sit together in the heavenlies in Christ Jesus,
Eph 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
God has declared that we have been quickened (made alive) in Christ, we have been raised together, and seated together in the heavenlies in Christ, exactly the same place where Christ has been raised and seated at the Father’s right hand, see Ephesians 1:19-21. There, where Christ is seated above all of the heavenly rulers and authorities, is our glorious inheritance in front of God’s face. There our blessings are located and there we are the heirs of God. Is it any wonder Paul brings this wonderful section to a close with these verses;
Eph 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Many Christians love these verses thinking they only refer to Christ dying for our sin and sins, but the salvation provided by grace through faith in Ephesians 2 goes way past these foundational truths to include our glorious inheritance in the heavenlies and the unique blessings we have there. We have been raised and seated together in the heavenlies that is the context of “FOR by grace you are saved through faith”. Praise the Lord, what a wonderful salvation by grace!
This salvation is not an earthly one. We, the Church which is His Body, are not destined for the earth. We are not to be blessed with faithful Abraham; nor is the Jerusalem above the mother of us all today. These things were put aside with Israel at Acts 28. Galatians, 1@2Corinthians, 1@2 Thessalonians, Hebrews and Romans which were written before Acts 28, speak of Christ dying for our sins, but they know nothing of the wonderful hope we have today by grace through faith as found in Ephesians and Colossians written after Acts 28. After Israel was put aside then the Lord gave to Paul this wonderful salvation concerning heavenly places. This hope is an element of the Mystery, the present dispensation of the grace of God which was hidden away from ages and generations and it was also hidden away from Paul during the Acts period.
We now begin to address a very important question. Since God’s Word says we, in Christ, have been raised and seated in the heavenlies where Christ is seated at the right hand of God, exactly when will we literally be seated there in the heavenlies or heavenly places? In other words, when will our hope become sight? When will our faith be realized? When will God’s Word regarding us come to pass? When will we be seated there in our wonderful new bodies “fashioned like His glorious body”? What is the timing of our hope?
The answer to this is found in Colossians 3:1-4 which flows wonderfully onwards from Ephesians 2; Col 3:1 If then (or since, if does not always mean doubt) you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Be mindful of things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For you died, and your life has been hidden with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ our Life is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.
Here we are clearly told that “WHEN” our Lord, The Head is revealed, “THEN” we, the Church which is His Body, will also be revealed “WITH HIM”. That is the timing of our hope; the revealing of our Lord. Here are one or two other versions:
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. (KJV)
And
Col 3:1 If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye died, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then shall ye also with him be manifested in glory. (RV)
These three versions use “revealed”, “appear” and “manifested” to translate the Greek word “phaneroo”. Here are some helpful definitions of “phaneroo”:
Strong’s.
phaneroo; from G5318; to render apparent (literally or figuratively): - appear, manifestly declare, (make) manifest (forth), shew (self).
Word Study (E-Sword).
phaneroo; manifest, visible, conspicuous. To make apparent, manifest, known, show openly.
Dr Strong says that the word “phaneroo” comes from another word, G5318 which is “phaneros”. Phaneros means “shining” and itself comes from a word which means “light, to give light”.
When our Lord appears it is a moment of revelation involving great light, a shining forth. Where is this shining forth; this appearing of our Lord? The location is very clearly identified; it is “where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God”. Our Lord will be seated at God’s right hand when He is manifested. We shall look more closely at this in a later lesson but for now we recognize this is not in the air of 1 Thess.4, where the clouds are located.
We can see a contrast in this Colossians passage. Notice, our life is “hidden with Christ in God” and while these things are hidden now, there is a time coming when they will be manifested or revealed. This moment will be a very bright one, a blazing forth as some have described it. It will be a glorious moment when our Lord and Head is manifested, but you and me and the rest of the Church which is His Body will be manifested there, in the heavenly places with Him.
What will this appearing be like? Imagine you are sitting on a chair on top of a hill which, if there was light, would be clearly visible to the city below. The hill and the city are in darkness but there comes a time when the top of the hill is illuminated with a bright light. Then you, sitting on top of the hill, will be clearly visible to all those in the city below. You on your chair have been “manifested”, you have been “revealed”, you have “appeared” to all. In a similar but far more extensive way the Lord will appear to all in a blazing forth of light. He will be seen by those in the heavenly places, and by those on the earth beneath.
Please consider the following verses as an anticipation of future lessons;
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning comes out of the east and shines even to the west, so also will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Mat 24:29 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Mat 24:30 And then the sign of the Son of Man shall appear (phaino-the same family of words giving phaneroo of Colossians 3) in the heavens.
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before that great and glorious (epiphanes- the same family of words giving phaneroo of Colossians 3) Day of the Lord.
And
Mat 26:64 Jesus said to him, You said it. I tell you more. From this time you shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming on the clouds of the heavens.
Act 7:56 And he (Stephen) said, Behold, I see Heaven opened and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.
And this passage;
Rev 6:12 And when He had opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake. And the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs when she is shaken by a mighty wind.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed like a scroll when it is rolled together. And every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every freeman, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains.
Rev 6:16 And they said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him sitting on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;
When the Lord is manifested in the heavenly places, the world will be morally, spiritually and physically dark and in that darkened day a light will blaze forth, our Lord shall be visible and “every eye shall see Him”. The heavens will be peeled back and they will see Him sitting on the right hand of God.
This “appearing” of our Lord and Head is far above the clouds, and the air of 1 Thess.4. This is before He begins His descent to the earth. In the day; in the moment our Lord is manifested on the right hand of God, we shall be there in our seats manifested with Him. What an honor, what a moment of unimaginable joy. Let each one of us set our affection “where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God”, for there, in front of God’s face, we have been raised and seated to “appear with Him”.
That moment of His appearing is when our hope will be realized.
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I started this blog for the Lord in January 2008.The first post was about the confusion of when the Rapturewill occur. Pre, Mid, Post, and other ideas. The Holy Spirithas been teaching me all these things because The Lord hasgiven me a love of his TRUTH. I was saved before I started the blog because I already trusted in Jesus' FINISHED WORKon the cross and believed in the Scriptural resurrection ofour Savior. The FIRST STEP for any person to understandyour Bible, is to TRUST ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST for hiscompleted saving work on the cross and believe he was resurrected to Glory as Scripture tells us......PLUS NOTHINGelse ! Not works of any kind, denominational dogmas andtraditions of men that try to add works and sacraments,good deeds, tithing, creeds, laws of men or God, baptism inwater by men in any name, and anything else men try to tellyou need to do in their particular denomination of men to addto the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST on the cross. ONCE YOU TOTALLY TRUST CHRIST JESUS FOR YOUR SALVATION AND PLUS NOTHING ELSE, The Holy Spiritwill at that very moment...baptize you into the Body of Christand from then, on the Holy Spirit will teach you all things a little at a time, line upon line from the Living Word of Truthin Scriptures. Don't trust anyone or denomination, butsearch in HIS WORD to see if these things are so.

The second thing barring sincere seekers of truth fromTruth, is that most all denominations, including the firstdenomination the RCC, believe in some way, they as "the church", have received Israel's blessings and have becomethe new, "Spiritual Israel" This teaching found in ReplacementTheology, Amillennialism, Covenant Theology are totallyFALSE. To understand properly God's Word, one mustdo what is found in II Tim 2:15. 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

All Scripture is for your knowledge and understanding, butGod has worked with men differently in times past, now,and in the future. All Scripture is not written to you to followas it was to Israel in the past. Israel was under the LAW program and the Body of Christ today is under the GRACEprogram. You must(rightly divide)between the two of thesechurches to understand what was meant for Times past and what is meant for the Body of Christ today.

I will be talking about and posting from now on about whatthe Holy Spirit has been teaching me in particular in my walkin faith and in spirit in Christ, as part of his Body.

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It is a common, but very serious MISTAKE.....to think that just because you disagree on some points....another brother in Christ Jesus, in the Body of Christ, has about the Rapture....that you cannot "GLEAN " MANY OTHER IMPORTANT NUGGETS OF TRUTH.......that will aid us in growing in grace and knowledge of theBIG PICTURE overall in what is happening and will happenin PROPHECY...on the stage of history.

Come Brothers....let us share and learn about issues ofimportants.... WITHOUT getting upset. There are many wonderful pieces of the puzzle we can glean from other brothers.Hold fast to your truth...but don't be so dogmatic, so closed minded, so upset....not to dialog between brothers and sisters of the sameBody of Christ...even though we might disagree on some points.

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9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
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13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.