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I've been going to H2O for 9 years and have watched it go from a laid back and fun time, to a "look at me" "im lower than you are" dick measuring contest. It's annoying anymore, and this is coming from a guy that is actually into Volkswagens.

I've been going to H2O for 9 years and have watched it go from a laid back and fun time, to a "look at me" "im lower than you are" dick measuring contest. It's annoying anymore, and this is coming from a guy that is actually into Volkswagens. The general public has a bit less of an open minded policy. Just my $.02

That's why I bought a nice Audi and a fun Subaru ... the VW kiddies are getting too out of control.

this is a joke. every year its something new about the show and how it isn't gunna happen. why even stress it, it's only November and you all no yourself there's gunna be a show anyway come September so who cares.

this was my 4th trip h2o. every year there is an article published somewhere in ocmd about the event. someone is always going to hate this show, no matter where it is. from the discussions i had with the local businesses/owners, we are nothing compared to the hotrod and bike weeks. the electrician that came to our condo said his friends liked getting the late season business that we bring, and that we were overall more respectful than bikers and hotrodders...we are just a overall younger crowd and may stay up a bit later than the other weeks....

also it has been the same attitude for ALL 4 years that i have gone. It is a car show, someone is going to burnout, someone is going to race. i could deal without the bullhorns though for the record.

Hotrod week, Bike week and etc are nothing compared to H2O since it has turned into a stanceworks lower it brah, all makes and cars party.

"lower it brah all makes and cars party" LOL that made me laugh hard funny shizz.

yeah it's all the other makes that are causing the problems, not VWs.

i bet any $ they put gates or chains up on the parking lot to the convention center which would kill almost all of the party. then you'd just have parties at all the hotels like waterfest. that convention center lot is perfect for congregating, will be a shame if it gets closed off.

what i think is being quickly overlooked is the fact that cruisin week and bike week bring an older crowd... the people writing the articles there and the general local public is an older crowd. perspective being everything, seeing a bunch of classic cars cruising up the strip brings back a sense of nostalgia that your newer cars just cant do. there's nothing "Classic" about your mk4 with "stance" they just dont give a **** about what you're into. They aren't wrong for feeling that way, just as you aren't wrong for feeling the opposite. local businesses embrace the cruisers and embrace the bikers... Hooters for instance opens their lot and arms to those crowds but not to the VW community because the other crowds frequented the restaurant, bought food and drinks and tipped... something some "Kids in VW's" just dont do.

If any of you happened to look around the show near the middle of the day would have noticed that the place was completely trashed... there was just garbage and junk everywhere. That's a sign of just lack of respect in the eyes of an older public. So as long as we as a "scene" keep feeling a sense of entitlement that Ocean City owes it to us to let us invade their city for up to a week at a time they will continue to want us gone.

I've been going to H2O for 9 years and have watched it go from a laid back and fun time, to a "look at me" "im lower than you are" dick measuring contest. It's annoying anymore, and this is coming from a guy that is actually into Volkswagens. The general public has a bit less of an open minded policy. Just my $.02

Well said sir. I have firsthand exp with this whole thing in my town, Harley had their 100th and their 105th here, and it was unbearable. UNBEARABLE. i hate loud pipes, those bikes literally throttle the entire county, every corner of it. Milwaukee for the most part embraces it but many don't want it, and they're the older crowd you speak of. i've been vocal about getting rid of it here to my officials. those bikes run through every neighborhood ALL DAY ALL NITE.

Just to give you examples of stuff the Milwaukee PD allowed to happen right before their eyes during the 100th reunion;

frontal topless nudity of women (not complaining)

burnouts, guys with their bikes parked along the curb would burn their rear tires on the curbs creating HUGE plumes of smoke and noise, no big deal, cops just kept movin. they closed down the main street downtown where this was happening. so it was like a big festival type environment.

absolute insanity, the hotels were booked up from downtown to 30 miles out -- how these guys rode their bikes out to the outskirts drunk is beyond me.

H2Oi doesn't even have anything to do with OC. The show isn't held in OC (which the SHOW is H2O) , everyone just stays there that is attending H2O. The reporter needs to get their facts straight.

Jay stated at the end of the show this year that he was trying to obtain a piece of property to hold the BBQ and show at so it wouldn't be such a problem with finding a location anymore. I think we should all donate a bit of money to him toward it to get one so we can enjoy H2O for years to come.

i wish jay would do one thing, CHANGE the weekend this show happens, it's just too damn rain ridden. don't get me wrong early fall is a cool time for a show, but this year was miserable for the most part.

hell hold it the weekend of waterfest and destroy that show and put it it out of its misery, nj and their ****ty roads and all

Prob with Waterfest is that it's sooo hot! But...I guess that's appropriate 'beach' weather. But then you have to worry about all the vacationers in OC and there not being a wide array of hotels/condos to stay at...if any at all since it's peak season.

Prob with Waterfest is that it's sooo hot! But...I guess that's appropriate 'beach' weather. But then you have to worry about all the vacationers in OC and there not being a wide array of hotels/condos to stay at...if any at all since it's peak season.

maybe. if jay announced it early enough and we could beat the vacationers to the punch.

I say, give him what he wants... the phrase "lack of respect" was mentioned in that complaint. So, if "lack of respect" is an issue, we should simply kill them with kindness. I certainly wont miss H20, any year, and i love the event. However, from cruising the strip, to the gathering at the convention center, to the show itself... I also see a lack of respect from many people. Go ahead and race, and have the time of your life... but, lets also remember that we are still guests in their city. Cars wrecking into hotel balconies... that paints a bad picture. Trashing all the parking lots... paints a bad picture. I can certainly have fun, and race, then go back to the room and get trashed off my ass and walk the boardwalk too... but, i can also be responsible while doing it, and still have a blast!! And cant wait to do it again this summer!!!

i wish jay would do one thing, CHANGE the weekend this show happens, it's just too damn rain ridden. don't get me wrong early fall is a cool time for a show, but this year was miserable for the most part.

hell hold it the weekend of waterfest and destroy that show and put it it out of its misery, nj and their ****ty roads and all

Expect to pay more for hotel/motel/condo if you move the dates. Last weekend of Sept is out of season = cheaper rates.

Also, one of the main reasons I don't go to Waterfest is because it's too damn hot.