Facility under the Archuleta Mesa in Dulce update..

more or less yes. Read the book project beta which focuses on Paul Bennewitz which was very real and shows how this poor man was taken advantage of
and led a stray by disinfo agents. By the end of it all you forget about all the UFOs and secret bases etc and realise the real human element and the
real soul destroying ordeal the guy went through. I myself need to re-read the book as there is a lot of well researched information and lots of names
and places you can cross reference as you read. This is not the case when you try and cross reference potential hoaxes such as Phil Schneider or
Costello. Maybe Bennewitz did stumble upon something to begin with but I think he was taken for a ride pretty soon after that and I feel the same
thing would have happened if I was in his place.

I bought Project Beta as I was reading the same content on different websites but nothing new and no real information on sources. I just figured if
someone has spent years on interviewing and meeting people involved rather than armchair research and then bothered to have the book published the
content must be better than the free websites.

The signal to noise ratio of free websites is very low. Because nothing is invested in the website, there is little incentive to keep it current and
fix errors.

Ad supported websites have their problems too. ATS is no exception. You get a thread about obvious baloney like Dulce, it keeps the advert hits
rolling.

Youtube, if presenting raw data (video), it can be useful. However, the feedback mechanism is poor. Somebody video tapes flares, shakes the camera a
bit, and you have a UFO. Maybe a comment about this will show up, but it gets pushed down the list with comments about "awesome" and "kewl."

The internet has to be the cheapest form of mass communication ever created. For $50 a year you can post your data and say your piece. The mere fact
to open a website is tough without a credit card keeps the homeless and under 18 crowd out of the picture. No offense to the young or homeless, but
it is hard to do original research without spending a few bucks, if only on travel.

Most free websites and Farcebook, even if presenting something true, are simply echo chambers of other websites.

If you are presented with a pop over peddling a free ipad, maybe the website has other motives. The signal to noise ratio of free websites is very
low. Because nothing is invested in the website, there is little incentive to keep it current and fix errors.

Ad supported websites have their problems too. ATS is no exception. You get a thread about obvious baloney like Dulce, it keeps the advert hits
rolling.

Youtube, if presenting raw data (video), it can be useful. However, the feedback mechanism is poor. Somebody video tapes flares, shakes the camera a
bit, and you have a UFO. Maybe a comment about this will show up, but it gets pushed down the list with comments about "awesome" and "kewl."

The internet has to be the cheapest form of mass communication ever created. For $50 a year you can post your data and say your piece. The mere fact
to open a website is tough without a credit card keeps the homeless and under 18 crowd out of the picture. No offense to the young or homeless, but
it is hard to do original research without spending a few bucks, if only on travel.

Most free websites and Farcebook, even if presenting something true, are simply echo chambers of other websites.

If you are presented with a pop over peddling a free ipad, maybe the website has other motives.

From what I've read, I know about a official patents from Los Alamos Labs scientifics talking about a TBM that melts the rock, and some debris that
causes the drill bit, then adhering to the walls of tunnel, forming walls crystallized glass. The name of this TBM given by Los Alamos National Labs
scientifics is Subterrene.

Originally posted by rayktheon
From what I've read, I know about a official patents from Los Alamos Labs scientifics talking about a TBM that melts the rock, and some debris that
causes the drill bit, then adhering to the walls of tunnel, forming walls crystallized glass. The name of this TBM given by Los Alamos National Labs
scientifics is Subterrene.

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Patents are not proof of existence. There are filed patents for anything and everything you can imagine. There is a patent for a flying saucer
submarine, a nuclear powered Ferris wheels, a zero gravity squeezebox, and a jet propelled golf club. If you have $90.00 and a concept, you can file a
patent.

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