So many friends and familiar names - Hi everyone, great to see you here!

Foster Furbabies

33:12

will slides be available?

Cameron Moore

33:46

Yes the slides will be made available after the webinar!

Staci Griffin

33:56

Staci Griffin, Second Chance Pets, League City, Texas

Shari Cahill

34:02

Hi Beth & Ann!

Sue Clement

34:08

Hey -- seeing you got in. Yay

Shari Cahill

34:31

Shameless self-promotion --

Shari Cahill

34:57

If anybody has opening for foster or adopt near west georgia, we are overwhelmed and need help!

Cameron Moore

36:34

Webinar should last 45 minutes to an hour.

Shari Cahill

39:27

Beth that's for you...creamsickle promotion!

Cameron Moore

39:56

Congratulations Susan on embracing open adoptions. Open adoptions is definitely the way to go. Everyone should read HSUS' Adopter's Welcome Guidelines - it is well written and clearly addresses these concerns and busts myths about the need for things like home visits.

Cameron Moore

40:33

https://www.animalsheltering.org/programs/adopters-welcome

Yvette Hains

40:42

I have had 3 cats in my bedroom for a year and a half. Had them since they were 4 months. What are the chances of getting them adoption. What suggestions can you give me?

Shari Cahill

41:10

Petfinder Foundation, too. "Forget the fairy tale" they call it.

Cameron Moore

41:32

Read the Adopter's Welcome information. It will explain it. Open adoptions basically means having a conversation with a potential adopter versus these long cumbersome applications where you make people jump through hoops to prove they will be a good adopter.

Cameron Moore

43:36

That's actually a myth Barbara. Read the Adopters Welcome guidelines. Shelters across North America are proving those myths wrong.

Beth Deters

44:07

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44:09

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Shari Cahill

45:36

OUCH!

Beth Deters

45:49

sorry, kittens on the keyboard wanted to participate. :)

Shari Cahill

47:06

Is there a baseline for what is considered too high for fees from this study?

Yvette Hains

48:11

What are some sites I can place pictures and info for the cats I want to be adopted?

Dagmar Ott

48:46

Chicago - kennel operators formed their own nonprofits to get around this law. So not helping homeless pets at all.

Cameron Moore

49:23

Shari, fee waived adoptions or as close to free as possible is going to increase your adoptions (number of animals you can save) while reducing length of stay.

Dagmar Ott

50:07

No vet care for indoor cats is neglect.

Yvette Hains

50:20

I don’t understand this chat room, no one is answering my questions.

Shari Cahill

50:31

Agreed but from the public perspective, is asking a fee equal to what has been invested to fully vet a cat considered too expensive? Theoretically, they will spend that much or more anyway.

Keri Heise

51:07

Yvette, adoptapet.com or petfinder.com are great sites for listing adoptable animals

Danielle Case

51:52

Is there data that shows the relationship between application length/strictness and return rates?

Dagmar Ott

51:55

Use rescuegroups.org. they will post for you on multiple sites! Nice way to keep track of your pets.

Keri Heise

51:58

no fee adoptions allow people who may not be able to afford $500 worth of vet care (for example) get an animal who is already altered and started off with vaccinations. They may not be able to do every vaccination but they can provide a loving home.

Kay Joubert

52:03

Yvette - you can also consider transferring your cats out to groups that adopt out quickly and are looking for cats. New England shelters, shelters in the Pacific Northwest in particular are usually always looking for cats to place.

Yvette Hains

52:11

Thanks Karl for your information.

Kathleen O'Malley

52:40

Yvette, I will email you with other suggestions.

Cameron Moore

52:56

Shari, yes, you will not be able to recoup the money invested into the animal you are rescuing and the longer you hold them trying to get that fee, the more money it will cost you. Every day you have that animal in your care increases your cost of care as well as their length of stay. It doesn't mean you can't ask for a donation when you have a fee waived or special priced event. Success attracts success and people do want to support lifesaving so the more you save, the more donations you will most likely receive.

Julie Levy

53:00

I worked that hoarding case in Elk County too! Great outcome and great collaboraiton. The adoption event was trasnformational. Ask the public to help and they will!

Shari Cahill

53:21

Yes, thats why I was wondering about a baseline. What is "too much" from public perspective? When will they walk away? $50, $100,...

Marissa Giangiordano

54:06

Our adult cat adoption fee is $25 and kitten adoption fee is $125

Keri Heise

54:32

I think "too much" is hard to determine, and varies by area. In a location with a lot of low income people, $50 may be too much. In a population with wealthier people, you could do a lot more.

Yvette Hains

54:41

Thanks a lot Karl. I really appreciate it. Can I send videos of the cats?

Dagmar Ott

56:07

We've offered cats for free and it still took months for several of them! Sometimes it just takes time. Adoption fees aren't always the barrier.

Shari Cahill

57:14

At local AC, cat or kitten fee is $10. Still have unfortunate number of returned adoptions, owner turn-ins and a rediculous number in population for last two weeks.

Julie Levy

58:17

We can also check out what the "going rate" for new cat acquisition locally is. Here in Florida, a lot of people get their cats for free from friends, family, Craig's list, etc. So our competition is 'free' (of course we know our fully vetted cats are high-value and free isn't costless).

Cameron Moore

58:22

Shari, what Sue is talking about right now is super important. Being a resource for adopters will significantly reduce returns, give people the help they need to either keep their pet or place their pet outside of the shelter, etc.

Jesse Barton

59:12

I love this idea.

Cameron Moore

59:19

Yes, this entire webinar will be available for future viewing and listening.

Shari Cahill

59:22

Agreed and certainly a challenge in middle of nowhere west Ga. Trying. Progress daily. Still really frustrating.

Cameron Moore

01:00:42

Shari, there are a lot of great resources in Georgia. I'm happy to talk with you after the webinar. Feel free to email me at cameron.moore@ufl.edu.

Shari Cahill

01:01:25

Will do. Thank you!! :-)

Beth Bach

01:02:00

I'm with a rescue and we seem to do our best to run off adopters rather than embrace them. I have more of a shelter background having been long associated with Austin Animal Center. Trying to change the culture in this rescue to improve our adoption rates.

Barbara Garrison

01:02:14

I have had several situations where I would have given the person any cat he or she wanted. One was a student who lied about the fact that she lived in a NO PETS ALLOWED house, a family that had four unsterilized females in their home, a woman who put her cats outside with one being killed by a car and disappearing. I could go on.

Aine Doley

01:02:46

Will we get a transcript of this chat? It’s got great Q&A.

Beth Bach

01:02:59

It takes us anywhere from three days to a couple of weeks to process an application because of personal references plus vet check who don't return our contacts so we have to try again and again sometimes.

Cameron Moore

01:03:43

Beth, I'm so glad you have an open mind and are trying to help your group embrace open adoptions and being a resource. You've got the right idea!! Definitely download Adopters Welcome and share with those in your group. Have them listen to this webinar once it's posted online too.

Amber Carroll

01:03:54

We struggle with being a very small rural shelter where the community in general is not big on vetting--its hard to find good adopters when over half of the applications have unaltered pets.

Cameron Moore

01:04:16

I believe the chat transcript is included once the zoom has concluded.

Dagmar Ott

01:04:22

Saw one where app asked if person had a doggy door and how they would keep the cat from going out of it. Seemed pretty silly to me.

Keri Heise

01:04:57

Adoption is an opportunity to kindly offer a learning experience- the positives of spay/neuter, for example. By adopting out already altered animals, you also aren't relying on the local population to take care of that themselves.

Dagmar Ott

01:05:42

Some things are needed by Department of Agriculture

Kelly Hiznay

01:07:40

When will we get the PDF worksheet?

Cameron Moore

01:08:25

Amber, we have found that most people do want to do the right thing for their pet but typically do not have access to affordable vet care. So it's not because they don't care, but because they don't have access. You may want to look at what resources are available in your community and if you don't have good resources, look at options in neighboring communities. Maybe a mobile clinic can visit your town or a transport could be set up to take animals to a non-profit clinic.

Carrie Terbush

01:08:44

add an addendum to the contract

Cameron Moore

01:09:39

Kelly, I don't have an exact timeline, but it should be within the next few days.

Dagmar Ott

01:11:04

Tried all that with someone that got new furniture that the cat decided to scratch. She still declawed the cat and then ended up giving it up three months later due to moving. Cat is still limping.

Amy Tefft

01:11:10

YES!!!!! Nail Caps & nail trimming tutorial at time of adoption is an excellent idea!

Staci Griffin

01:11:10

We offer to trim any cats nails for free (whether they adopted from us or not)

Amber Carroll

01:11:15

Thank you for the response-we sponsor almost all spay/neuters, we have a low cost spay clinic across the street, and sponsor community members if they reach out. We continue to discuss it on our Facebook page as well. The community is somewhat responsive, but we are still an area where so many people do not believe in it. We follow up on all adoptions to make sure they have spayed.

Dagmar Ott

01:12:05

We are no declaw and happy about it. We inform and if person won't change their mind, we say no to the adoption.

Keri Heise

01:12:48

Amber, are you adopting out unaltered animals?

Amber Carroll

01:13:53

The shelter will with contract. All cats that we pull into our rescue are altered before adoption.

Keri Heise

01:14:28

Okay cool. I was just thinking it would be hard to encourage people in your area to do it with all of their animals, if the shelter/rescue wasn't doing it with all of theirs.

Beth Bach

01:14:28

We adopt out unaltered kittens with contract that says must be altered when old enough. The cost of the surgery is prepaid so they have little reason to not follow through. We also follow up when the appropriate age has been reached for those who forget.

Carrie Terbush

01:14:41

thank you so much!!

Susan Furukawa

01:14:57

this was catastic!

Tammy Adkins

01:14:58

Thank you!

Lauren Wickman

01:14:58

Thanks for all you do!

Tracy Luddeke

01:15:04

Thank you!!

Amber Carroll

01:15:05

Thank you!

Kay Joubert

01:15:05

Thanks for the great webinar!

Erika Gamez

01:15:06

Thank you!

Kelly Hiznay

01:15:07

so no Q&A?

Yvette Hains

01:15:07

Thanks

Kelly Hiznay

01:15:12

alright...

Jess Bullard

01:15:15

Thank you for your info and time today!

Beth Bach

01:15:16

We are also a breed specific rescue so we probably have fewer issues than others might. And we are in an area where everyon is pro S/N.

Danielle Case

01:15:26

This was very helpful. Thank you!

Cameron Moore

01:15:29

Courtney, that would be a great email for our yahoo group with Million Cat Challenge. Other challengers would be happy to share their applications.