canaan wrote:much to slappybrowns chagrin, he is looking for somewhere in the south hills or similar areas to peters twp, mt lebo, upper st clair.

Another vote against the South Hills here. Maybe if enough LGP posters can voice their displeasure, we swing the location to somewhere in the city or North Hills. People have to respect the combined voice of LGP.

canaan wrote:much to slappybrowns chagrin, he is looking for somewhere in the south hills or similar areas to peters twp, mt lebo, upper st clair.

Another vote against the South Hills here. Maybe if enough LGP posters can voice their displeasure, we swing the location to somewhere in the city or North Hills. People have to respect the combined voice of LGP.

Also, I guess I missed the whole Beer Market discussion. I've been to several World of Beer locations in Florida and don't find the lack of food onsite to be a big drawback. Having good food available is a plus, but if I'm going out to drink I'll usually eat prior or stumble to a pizza place and/or Taco Bell afterwards.

As I ascend the echelons of beer snobbery, I find my biggest complaint about World of Beer is that they have lots of different beers, but they don't really have many exceptionally rare/high-end brews. With the number of decent craft breweries out there now, you can build up an impressive number of decent craft beers without having any exceptional ones. Last summer at World of Beer, I asked what sours they had (none), and then asked a for saison as my plan B. They only had this Widmer Brothers saison that was very unremarkable (as I think most of their stuff is).

I would prefer a place with a smaller selection, but with at least a half-dozen truly rare, truly high-end beers. The couple times I've been to Fathead's in the past couple years, I've thought they've done a nice of job of having some interesting things available, while still having a small selection in comparison to World of Beer/Beer Market places.

columbia wrote:There's a World of Beer a few blocks from my office.I've never been in there, partially because it doesn't look like a place that I would want to spend more than 3 minutes.

Is it because of **** clientele? I've noticed that it seems to be the World of Beer MO to open locations in yuppie-ish areas, which leads to pretty high d-bag concentrations inside. I spent most of my time at World of Beer during the day watching the 2010 World Cup. It was definitely more bearable during the day.

That's basically exactly how I feel as well. Idoit recommended that bar in D.C. that has 300+ beers, and I felt like the list was 285 of the first 300 most common beers you would think of. I realize 300 beers is an awful lot, and that should be a large enough number that there should be something for everyone, but it seems strange to me to pride yourself on beer numbers but lack at least a couple really high end/rare offerings. I don't even mind if you have it but its $40-$50/bottle.

Perhaps when I stop my exploration phase I'll settle in to wanting to drink some of the same things available at places like this. Feel like quite the snob these days, though.

columbia wrote:There's a World of Beer a few blocks from my office.I've never been in there, partially because it doesn't look like a place that I would want to spend more than 3 minutes.

Is it because of **** clientele? I've noticed that it seems to be the World of Beer MO to open locations in yuppie-ish areas, which leads to pretty high d-bag concentrations inside. I spent most of my time at World of Beer during the day watching the 2010 World Cup. It was definitely more bearable during the day.

It had a a real frat-house basement feel to it.....at least from what I could see from the sidewalk.

Kraftster wrote:That's basically exactly how I feel as well. Idoit recommended that bar in D.C. that has 300+ beers, and I felt like the list was 285 of the first 300 most common beers you would think of. I realize 300 beers is an awful lot, and that should be a large enough number that there should be something for everyone, but it seems strange to me to pride yourself on beer numbers but lack at least a couple really high end/rare offerings. I don't even mind if you have it but its $40-$50/bottle.

Perhaps when I stop my exploration phase I'll settle in to wanting to drink some of the same things available at places like this. Feel like quite the snob these days, though.

It seems strange to me that you chastise a place for lacking rare offerings and cite an example that has 285 common beers out of their 300+ beers. Sounds like 15+ beers that meet your approval.

But really, yeah I know what you mean. I am someone that is excited and satisfied when a place has Boddingtons.

Kraftster wrote:That's basically exactly how I feel as well. Idoit recommended that bar in D.C. that has 300+ beers, and I felt like the list was 285 of the first 300 most common beers you would think of. I realize 300 beers is an awful lot, and that should be a large enough number that there should be something for everyone, but it seems strange to me to pride yourself on beer numbers but lack at least a couple really high end/rare offerings. I don't even mind if you have it but its $40-$50/bottle.

Perhaps when I stop my exploration phase I'll settle in to wanting to drink some of the same things available at places like this. Feel like quite the snob these days, though.

It seems strange to me that you chastise a place for lacking rare offerings and cite an example that has 285 common beers out of their 300+ beers. Sounds like 15+ beers that meet your approval.

But really, yeah I know what you mean. I am someone that is excited and satisfied when a place has Boddingtons.

Ha. Something less than rare but more than common on those 15 or so.

Yeah, I used to be in that boat. I think I'm pretty annoying to go out with these days. I'm frequently complaining about the type of glassware being used by bars.

To offer somewhat of a defense of the Sharp Edge being complacent, I would remember that their focus has always been on Belgian beers, not all types of beer in general. Sure, they have beers from other places, but I’ve never expected them to be a go-to place for American micros or anything like that.