I'd be curious to see the algorithm that can compute a meaningful completion percentage for the [Generalist] badge.
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Frédéric HamidiNov 14 '11 at 16:49

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If every time you achieve 15 on one of the top 40 tags you go up by 5 percent it would work for me.
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Some Helpful CommenterNov 14 '11 at 16:51

Granted, you could even grow by 0.33% for each point in one of the top tags. It would get more complicated, however, if some of the top 40 tags do not apply because they don't have 200 questions yet.
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Frédéric HamidiNov 14 '11 at 16:55

@PeterMortensen. You might want to read In Defense of Editing Particularly the bit If you are going to edit a post, make sure you’re substantively improving it. Avoid making isolated, trivial edits, as they are the source of much friction. For example, don’t bother changing “its” to “it’s” unless you have several other edits to make in the same post.
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Some Helpful CommenterApr 12 '13 at 18:19

We're planning something similar to this, not for the badges page, but elsewhere. Still working it out at the moment.
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Jeremy TJun 24 '13 at 23:03

@JeremyTunnell Any update on when and what this will be? The tool tip idea is excellent.
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fredsbendNov 29 '13 at 7:55

@fredsbend At this point, we're looking at early 2014
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Jeremy TDec 2 '13 at 14:29

@JeremyT Early 2014 or somewhere between 2014 and 2015? ;)
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e-sushiMay 5 '14 at 18:35

@e-sushi You know how things are around here... Honestly, I think it got pushed a bit on the calendar, so I'd look for something in the fall.
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Jeremy TMay 5 '14 at 18:38

@JeremyT I know you guys have a lot on your todo list… which is why I put a smiley after my comment. But it’s cool to know you still have it planned. Thanks for getting back at me. Much appreciated!
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e-sushiMay 5 '14 at 18:39

hmm. That's an old post (almost 2yrs), and I'd say Jeff has lost the battle on this one. We did end up getting more explicit information on voting for the Electorate badge. The profile page has gotten so noisy it requires a redesign, badges are already an explicit goal for many (see the many wherz my badgez meta questions), and I think the pleasant surprise is eliminated once you've given their description.
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Some Helpful CommenterNov 14 '11 at 19:52

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Regardless, I haven't heard of any word from Jeff, or other higher-ups overturning this decision since. Yes, it's old, but I believe it's still applicable. There's already enough people "gaming" the badges as-is; we don't need a progress meter to make that all the easier (to do without thinking).
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NightfirecatNov 15 '11 at 7:44

@Nightfirecat I don't see a status-declined tag on the question so I'm not sure what you mean by "overturning this decision". By the way enjoy your shiny new reviewer badge and the Electorate one that you should be getting at the next badge recalc.
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Some Helpful CommenterNov 18 '11 at 16:13

@ConradFrix: Fair enough, though there seems to be no indication from Jeff or anyone higher-up that the decision will change. And thanks on the badge, though I'm a ways away from Electorate. (almost 400 question votes)
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NightfirecatNov 18 '11 at 18:22

@Nightfirecat oh that's right I always found the wording on that one hard to follow
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Some Helpful CommenterNov 18 '11 at 18:58

the badges are no longer a pleasant surprise and reward but an expected "level up" - in a gaming sense, I kinda enjoy grinding for level ups...so I'm for as many progress indicators as possible.
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YuckDec 20 '11 at 13:25

@Yuck that's exactly what Jeff does not want. He says: "Some of the badges are supposed to be surprises, not World of Warcraft style level grinds based on numbers"
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The Unhandled ExceptionDec 20 '11 at 13:40

@TheUnhandledException I know. I'm not misunderstanding. I'm just respectfully disagreeing. As a community member I feel I'm responsible to voice my opinion. It's up to the rest of the members to decide if my opinion is valid or idiotic.
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YuckDec 20 '11 at 13:54

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Oh I agree with you @Yuck. I'm a big RPG fan myself and I love grinding to reach the next level. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but when you disagree with Jeff, be prepared to be status-declined ;-)
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The Unhandled ExceptionDec 20 '11 at 14:04

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Many of the badges very clearly are grinds however (Reviewer...) so I don't feel the surprise is very warranted. Surprise improves the experience but once you've looked at the badge page for a badge you've ruined most of it already.
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Ben BrockaDec 28 '11 at 17:55

among many others. Many of the badges have algorithms that are difficult to calculate progress towards or that require data not available in the data dump (ex. Sportsmanship), but most of the others have queries.

I'm aware of these queries and have written a few and they're great. But Data.SE only gets update infrequently and are often wrong. For example there are several "Badge Progress" queries each with different numbers. How am I to know which one is "correct"
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Some Helpful CommenterNov 14 '11 at 17:39

The other downside to this is they don't work for beta sites.
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TroyenDec 28 '11 at 20:10

Regarding Sportsmanship: 1) the link is now broken. 2) You CAN'T get data for Sportsmanship badge since voting is anonymous in Data.SE too.
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hims056Feb 4 '14 at 11:27

I did ask Jeff Atwood recently as to why they decided to move away from this stance that The Unhandled Exception quoted and make flag-weight public, thereby leading to users trying to game the badge & getting upset over declined flags. I believe the discussion was in the comments to this answer of mine (Jeff Atwood was responding to my "flag-weight is a joke" jab), although the comments have been wiped since.

Jeff Atwood had some good points on how letting the users know their progress made them actively work towards it, thereby improving the quality of the site, and I agree with that. But the crux of his entire argument was that some "Raymond motherflippin' Chen" dude has started flagging posts, hence progress must be shown. The Raymond Chen reason can also be seen in this answer.

So in summary:
RAYMOND CHEN USES FLAGS, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

So unless Raymond Chen actively upvotes other competing answers/edits posts > 6 months old/has 0 vote accepted answers/etc, you are not going to see a progress indicator for those badges.

I think this could turn into a bit of a "chicken-and-the-egg" problem. The archetypal "Raymond motherflippin' Chen" may be flagging posts precisely because flag weight is visible. Similarly, our archetypal user may change his behavior if he can see his progress on other badges, as well.
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Chris FrederickDec 28 '11 at 18:24

Jeff made a lot of strong arguments for flag weight in that post and almost none of them apply in any way to this situation...his first comments about reputation seems to indicate that this sort of thing should be shown though.
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Ben BrockaDec 28 '11 at 19:15

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@Ben My point was less about applying those arguments to this situation, than it is about using absurd arguments to back recent decisions which run contrary to prior stances stated in stronger terms and with a more solid footing. I have no objection to showing the progress reports. Just that an honest admission of "y'know what guys, showing badge progress has helped improve the site" instead of "Raymond Chen loves pizza and so should you!" would've been better and left no room for speculation.
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Lorem IpsumDec 28 '11 at 19:18