I can't see the whole article I am assuming part of it's video. So a couple of questions what ingredient our the now blaming for autism? Is is still thymerisol? (not sue on the spelling)? or is it a different one?

I can't see the whole article I am assuming part of it's video. So a couple of questions what ingredient our the now blaming for autism? Is is still thymerisol? (not sue on the spelling)? or is it a different one?

I don't believe any of the "findings" that ever com out. DH's aunt's son has Autism. He was never vaccinated because she feared the risks associated with the vaccines. Her second son has been vaccinated. He is healthy and does not have autism.

I don't believe any of the "findings" that ever com out. DH's aunt's son has Autism. He was never vaccinated because she feared the risks associated with the vaccines. Her second son has been vaccinated. He is healthy and does not have autism.

I can't get my iPhone to follow the link. But personally I feel if your pro vaccine or anti vaccine we ALL should agree on one thing "too many too soon" I just don't feel like a 10lb infants immune system should have to fight multiple diseases at one time. There needs to be a better schedule...even if it just makes the fever a little less, and the aches a little less.

I can't get my iPhone to follow the link. But personally I feel if your pro vaccine or anti vaccine we ALL should agree on one thing "too many too soon" I just don't feel like a 10lb infants immune system should have to fight multiple diseases at one time. There needs to be a better schedule...even if it just makes the fever a little less, and the aches a little less.

The Professor doesnâ€™t specifically target any one ingredient. The point that he makes is that â€œvaccination is an artificial induction of inflammatory response so that youâ€™re allergic in the future to some kind of virus or something like that, and that the same things that adjuvant in the vaccines cause stimulate that response are the same things that cause neuro-inflammation (sp?) and systemic inflammationin kids with autism and if you do medical tests on kids with autism youâ€™ll find that they have that inflammation.â€ I hope that I copied that well enough. I tried to get him word for word.

Edit- doubled up on a few words while trying to quote the Professor.

Yes, part of the article is the video. Sorry you canâ€™t see it.

The Professor doesnâ€™t specifically target any one ingredient. The point that he makes is that â€œvaccination is an artificial induction of inflammatory response so that youâ€™re allergic in the future to some kind of virus or something like that, and that the same things that adjuvant in the vaccines cause stimulate that response are the same things that cause neuro-inflammation (sp?) and systemic inflammationin kids with autism and if you do medical tests on kids with autism youâ€™ll find that they have that inflammation.â€ I hope that I copied that well enough. I tried to get him word for word.

sorry on my phone so can you tell me does the article bother to include studies into what chemicals the parents clean with, how much air pollution they are exposed to on a daily basis, how many chemicals are in their daily diet, do they live any were near industrial areas where toxic chemicals are used, how "safe" is their water supply??

People go on and on about the chemicals in vaccines but seem to ignore all the other environmental factors....

sorry on my phone so can you tell me does the article bother to include studies into what chemicals the parents clean with, how much air pollution they are exposed to on a daily basis, how many chemicals are in their daily diet, do they live any were near industrial areas where toxic chemicals are used, how "safe" is their water supply??

People go on and on about the chemicals in vaccines but seem to ignore all the other environmental factors....

I don't believe any of the "findings" that ever com out. DH's aunt's son
has Autism. He was never vaccinated because she feared the risks
associated with the vaccines. Her second son has been vaccinated. He is
healthy and does not have autism.

My sister's kids are the exact opposite. Oldest was vaccinated and is autistic. The youngest wasn't and she is fine. I agree with PP, its TOO MUCH TOO SOON. We spend 9 months watching every little thing we put in our bodies and then pump them full of God knows what as soon as they pop out. That makes no sense to me at all..

I don't believe any of the "findings" that ever com out. DH's aunt's son
has Autism. He was never vaccinated because she feared the risks
associated with the vaccines. Her second son has been vaccinated. He is
healthy and does not have autism.

My sister's kids are the exact opposite. Oldest was vaccinated and is autistic. The youngest wasn't and she is fine. I agree with PP, its TOO MUCH TOO SOON. We spend 9 months watching every little thing we put in our bodies and then pump them full of God knows what as soon as they pop out. That makes no sense to me at all..

Here is a copy of the physical article. I wish that I could get a complete text of the video where there were a few more details. I did quote the Dr to a pp, the only part that I felt was important to the re-opening of the investigation/research.

(FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - Congress will hold hearings Thursday about a possible link between childhood vaccination and autism -- a subject that many thought had been put to rest earlier this year when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a study suggesting that research does not point to an association between the two.

But according to information discovered in documents by safeminds.org, at least 83 families received federal compensation for money for vaccine-related injuries. And each of the children in those 83 cases suffered from autism.

The CDC released a statement supporting their initial stance that no link between vaccines and autism exists.

Now, a group of parents -- whose children are all living with autism -- is coming forward with their research that again points to vaccine as the cause.

Heather McLennand and her son, Liam, and Richard Deth, Ph.D., a professor of pharmacology at Northeastern University, stopped by the FOX 25 Morning News to talk more about the vaccine-autism link.

Government program has been quietly paying awards to vaccine-injured children with autism for two decades but continues to deny vaccine-autism link. SafeMinds calls for immediate Congressional investigations.

Washington, D.C. â€“ For over 20 years, the federal government has publicly denied a vaccine-autism link, while at the same time its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has been awarding damages for vaccine injury to children with brain damage, seizures and autism. A new investigation, based on verifiable government data, breaks ground in the controversial vaccine-autism debate. The investigation found that a substantial number of children compensated for vaccine injury also have autism and that such cases have existed since 1989, the after year the VICP was formed.

SafeMindsâ€™ Executive Director, Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN comments, "This study dramatically shifts the debate on autism and vaccines. The question is no longer, Can vaccines cause autism? The answer is clear. Now, we have to ask, How many cases of autism have vaccines caused and how do we prevent new injuries from occurring?" The government has asserted that it "does not track" autism among the vaccine-injured. SafeMinds responds that not looking is the easiest way not to find something. SafeMinds is calling for immediate federal research into the mechanisms of injury in these children in an effort to protect other children from harm and Congressional action to reform the VICP.

The peer-reviewed study looked at cases of vaccine injury that have been monetarily compensated by the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It was published today in the Pace Environmental Law Review. The study investigated approximately 1300 cases of childhood brain injury as a result of vaccines in which the Special Masters ruled for the plaintiffs, looking for references to autism, symptoms of autism or disorders commonly associated with autism. It reports that twenty-one cases actually stated "autism or autism-like symptoms" in the court records. The researchers then identified and contacted 150 more compensated families to find out whether the children had autism. They were able to find an additional 62 cases (greater than 40% of their sample) for a total of 83 cases of autism. In 39 cases (47%) there was confirmation of autism beyond parental report.

The federal government has called autism a "national health emergency," conservatively affecting 1 in 110 children and costing the country billions of dollars each year. If a portion of autism cases are vaccine-16033 Bolsa Chica # 104-142 â€¢ Huntington Beach, CA 92649 â€¢ 404 934-0777 â€¢ www.safeminds.org 2

induced and there is evidence that officials have been "looking the other way", this cannot be tolerated. The VICPâ€™s recent attempt to dismiss the over 5000 cases in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings is suspect in light of these new findings based on its own records.

SafeMinds calls on Congress to fully investigate the VICP, the only forum in which parents may bring claims of vaccine injury on behalf of their children.

Here is a copy of the physical article. I wish that I could get a complete text of the video where there were a few more details. I did quote the Dr to a pp, the only part that I felt was important to the re-opening of the investigation/research.

(FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - Congress will hold hearings Thursday about a possible link between childhood vaccination and autism -- a subject that many thought had been put to rest earlier this year when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a study suggesting that research does not point to an association between the two.

But according to information discovered in documents by safeminds.org, at least 83 families received federal compensation for money for vaccine-related injuries. And each of the children in those 83 cases suffered from autism.

The CDC released a statement supporting their initial stance that no link between vaccines and autism exists.

Now, a group of parents -- whose children are all living with autism -- is coming forward with their research that again points to vaccine as the cause.

Heather McLennand and her son, Liam, and Richard Deth, Ph.D., a professor of pharmacology at Northeastern University, stopped by the FOX 25 Morning News to talk more about the vaccine-autism link.

Government program has been quietly paying awards to vaccine-injured children with autism for two decades but continues to deny vaccine-autism link. SafeMinds calls for immediate Congressional investigations.

Washington, D.C. â€“ For over 20 years, the federal government has publicly denied a vaccine-autism link, while at the same time its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has been awarding damages for vaccine injury to children with brain damage, seizures and autism. A new investigation, based on verifiable government data, breaks ground in the controversial vaccine-autism debate. The investigation found that a substantial number of children compensated for vaccine injury also have autism and that such cases have existed since 1989, the after year the VICP was formed.

SafeMindsâ€™ Executive Director, Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN comments, "This study dramatically shifts the debate on autism and vaccines. The question is no longer, Can vaccines cause autism? The answer is clear. Now, we have to ask, How many cases of autism have vaccines caused and how do we prevent new injuries from occurring?" The government has asserted that it "does not track" autism among the vaccine-injured. SafeMinds responds that not looking is the easiest way not to find something. SafeMinds is calling for immediate federal research into the mechanisms of injury in these children in an effort to protect other children from harm and Congressional action to reform the VICP.

The peer-reviewed study looked at cases of vaccine injury that have been monetarily compensated by the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It was published today in the Pace Environmental Law Review. The study investigated approximately 1300 cases of childhood brain injury as a result of vaccines in which the Special Masters ruled for the plaintiffs, looking for references to autism, symptoms of autism or disorders commonly associated with autism. It reports that twenty-one cases actually stated "autism or autism-like symptoms" in the court records. The researchers then identified and contacted 150 more compensated families to find out whether the children had autism. They were able to find an additional 62 cases (greater than 40% of their sample) for a total of 83 cases of autism. In 39 cases (47%) there was confirmation of autism beyond parental report.

The federal government has called autism a "national health emergency," conservatively affecting 1 in 110 children and costing the country billions of dollars each year. If a portion of autism cases are vaccine-16033 Bolsa Chica # 104-142 â€¢ Huntington Beach, CA 92649 â€¢ 404 934-0777 â€¢ www.safeminds.org 2

induced and there is evidence that officials have been "looking the other way", this cannot be tolerated. The VICPâ€™s recent attempt to dismiss the over 5000 cases in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings is suspect in light of these new findings based on its own records.

SafeMinds calls on Congress to fully investigate the VICP, the only forum in which parents may bring claims of vaccine injury on behalf of their children.

Thank you for the additional information. My humble opinion on this is in no way does vaccines cause autism, now I am not a doctor, a nurse, or a scientist but I live in an area where lots of people freaked over autism being caused by vaccines and 60% of the parents I personally know opted not to vaccinate. Now if autism was caused by vaccines could someone please explain how a child who never got vaccinated got autism? I honestly think that if a cause for autism is found it will be some substance or chemical that one of the parents or the child has been exposed to. At first the excuse was thymerisol which they stopped using but autism rates climbed, then vaccination rates declined but autism rates climbed. kids who didn't get vaccinated got autism. Seems to me that it enough to rule out vaccines as the cause.

Thank you for the additional information. My humble opinion on this is in no way does vaccines cause autism, now I am not a doctor, a nurse, or a scientist but I live in an area where lots of people freaked over autism being caused by vaccines and 60% of the parents I personally know opted not to vaccinate. Now if autism was caused by vaccines could someone please explain how a child who never got vaccinated got autism? I honestly think that if a cause for autism is found it will be some substance or chemical that one of the parents or the child has been exposed to. At first the excuse was thymerisol which they stopped using but autism rates climbed, then vaccination rates declined but autism rates climbed. kids who didn't get vaccinated got autism. Seems to me that it enough to rule out vaccines as the cause.

I do hope that they will release more data during the hearings on Thursday. I posted the articles so I wouldnâ€™t be the only one who read and interpreted them. I have an uncanny ability to make things say what I want them to, not what they really do.

You are right, other than making the correlation between how vaccines work and the inflammation in an autistic childâ€™s body, there is no other proof in these articles.

For the record all 4 of my kids have been or are in the process of being vaccinated. Iâ€™ve been watching this vaccine/autism debate closely because I have a good friend whose son has a severe case of autism. He is one of those that was developing perfectly until he was 18 months and then started regressing. Sheâ€™s having a really tough time with the situation, and Iâ€™m just trying to gather as much knowledge on the subject to be a good support for her and her family.

I do hope that they will release more data during the hearings on Thursday. I posted the articles so I wouldnâ€™t be the only one who read and interpreted them. I have an uncanny ability to make things say what I want them to, not what they really do.

You are right, other than making the correlation between how vaccines work and the inflammation in an autistic childâ€™s body, there is no other proof in these articles.

For the record all 4 of my kids have been or are in the process of being vaccinated. Iâ€™ve been watching this vaccine/autism debate closely because I have a good friend whose son has a severe case of autism. He is one of those that was developing perfectly until he was 18 months and then started regressing. Sheâ€™s having a really tough time with the situation, and Iâ€™m just trying to gather as much knowledge on the subject to be a good support for her and her family.

I am glad that they are bringing this to the table. Parents and every day citizens should be taken serious about their instincts and observations we shouldn't just readily accept all research done by huge agencies, especially when we are not told how those agencies can be incahoots with pharmaceutical companies profiting from vaccine revenue. I am a school psychologist and lots of parents have told me that the very day their child was vaccinated, they started noticing the behavioral changes. I used to tell them that the research showed it wasn't true but now I'm not so sure. I also think that personal experiences should not be denied. Vaccine rates have supposedly gone down but definitley a fraction of an amount in comparison to the rising rates of autism. I work in a school and I have yet to see one kid without vaccination records. I don't think vaccines are necessarily the only cause of autism but I do think it's environmental and I am quite suspicious about vaccines and there relation to it. Also, thimerisol and mercury was not completely removed from the vaccines. That is one of the myths that are out there. Definitely shocking how much tiny babies are vaccinated.

I am glad that they are bringing this to the table. Parents and every day citizens should be taken serious about their instincts and observations we shouldn't just readily accept all research done by huge agencies, especially when we are not told how those agencies can be incahoots with pharmaceutical companies profiting from vaccine revenue. I am a school psychologist and lots of parents have told me that the very day their child was vaccinated, they started noticing the behavioral changes. I used to tell them that the research showed it wasn't true but now I'm not so sure. I also think that personal experiences should not be denied. Vaccine rates have supposedly gone down but definitley a fraction of an amount in comparison to the rising rates of autism. I work in a school and I have yet to see one kid without vaccination records. I don't think vaccines are necessarily the only cause of autism but I do think it's environmental and I am quite suspicious about vaccines and there relation to it. Also, thimerisol and mercury was not completely removed from the vaccines. That is one of the myths that are out there. Definitely shocking how much tiny babies are vaccinated.

The rates if autism have not increased; the diagnoses of autism has. That is a very different thing. The symptomology of autism varies so widely, as does the demographic of people who are impacted by it. The severity of the illness is so diverse as well. Until we have specific parameters for diagnoses, clear symptoms, and know for sure the physiology of the disease (ie how it looks and behaves in the body) we have no ability to say what causes it. First we find out exactly what it is, then we find out where it comes from. Vaccines? Highly, highly doubtful. There are just too many inconsistencies in that theory, as several pps have pointed out. And why the jump in this generation, who receive safer vaccines than we did? Why not the jump in my generation (I'm 30)? It is pure speculation. Inflammation? Doubtful. Inflammation is blamed on everything from weight to acne to fibromyalgia. Show me the physical make-up of autism and then we'll discuss where it comes from.

The rates if autism have not increased; the diagnoses of autism has. That is a very different thing. The symptomology of autism varies so widely, as does the demographic of people who are impacted by it. The severity of the illness is so diverse as well. Until we have specific parameters for diagnoses, clear symptoms, and know for sure the physiology of the disease (ie how it looks and behaves in the body) we have no ability to say what causes it. First we find out exactly what it is, then we find out where it comes from. Vaccines? Highly, highly doubtful. There are just too many inconsistencies in that theory, as several pps have pointed out. And why the jump in this generation, who receive safer vaccines than we did? Why not the jump in my generation (I'm 30)? It is pure speculation. Inflammation? Doubtful. Inflammation is blamed on everything from weight to acne to fibromyalgia. Show me the physical make-up of autism and then we'll discuss where it comes from.

I totally don't buy the argument that "maybe we are just identifying autism more." People who have been in special education for a while have noticed a huge increase in obvious cases of autism and the severe kind (not just mild symtpoms that would have gone undetected otherwise). The behaviors are very distinguishible. A study was just done in Korea in which they found that about 1/50 kids had autism but not as many were diagnosed. I highly doubt the rates went from 1/10,000 to 1/50 because we are diagnosing more.

I totally don't buy the argument that "maybe we are just identifying autism more." People who have been in special education for a while have noticed a huge increase in obvious cases of autism and the severe kind (not just mild symtpoms that would have gone undetected otherwise). The behaviors are very distinguishible. A study was just done in Korea in which they found that about 1/50 kids had autism but not as many were diagnosed. I highly doubt the rates went from 1/10,000 to 1/50 because we are diagnosing more.

I've been reading ALOT on autism in the past few months with my son's speech delay and lack of eye contact (which is 100 times better all of a sudden, yay!). IMO it seems like so many of the kids diagnosed with autism are on the "autism spectrum" with that being sort of a catch all for the kids that don't display many of the signs. The more I read about it the more I see that lots of kids show signs and as they grow many fade away on their own or with intervention. Now I know that certainly there are children that obviously have autism and it's wonderful there is so much help for it nowadays, but it also seems to me that the numbers of the kids diagnosed always seem to be growing just because so many kids fall under the spectrum and it's not necessarily a vaccine or environmental issue or anything else that anyone is doing wrong. It's just that 20 years ago when we were all growing up mild autism just wasn't diagnosed.

I've been reading ALOT on autism in the past few months with my son's speech delay and lack of eye contact (which is 100 times better all of a sudden, yay!). IMO it seems like so many of the kids diagnosed with autism are on the "autism spectrum" with that being sort of a catch all for the kids that don't display many of the signs. The more I read about it the more I see that lots of kids show signs and as they grow many fade away on their own or with intervention. Now I know that certainly there are children that obviously have autism and it's wonderful there is so much help for it nowadays, but it also seems to me that the numbers of the kids diagnosed always seem to be growing just because so many kids fall under the spectrum and it's not necessarily a vaccine or environmental issue or anything else that anyone is doing wrong. It's just that 20 years ago when we were all growing up mild autism just wasn't diagnosed.

I am so sick to death of all the crap that is blamed for autism with out any concrete evidence.I have 2 childrenBoth breast fedBoth raised the same wayBoth exposed to the same thingsBoth vaccinated But only 1 has autismMy son is 8 years old He has been diagnosed with autism since he was 3 years old He has been in early intervention since he was 2 years old.I have seen and herd it all. And frankly I'm over all the speculation!! Everytime I turn around someone somewhere is blaming something else for autism.What a joke!!!Guess after years I'm just over it!I just keep doing everything I can for my son to help him in life and to fit into society. And that's about all we as parents of children with autism can do. Constantly worrying what caused it is not helping my son in any way. I don't think there is an increase of cases, its just more talked about more accepted more diagnosed less ignored.

I am so sick to death of all the crap that is blamed for autism with out any concrete evidence.I have 2 childrenBoth breast fedBoth raised the same wayBoth exposed to the same thingsBoth vaccinated But only 1 has autismMy son is 8 years old He has been diagnosed with autism since he was 3 years old He has been in early intervention since he was 2 years old.I have seen and herd it all. And frankly I'm over all the speculation!! Everytime I turn around someone somewhere is blaming something else for autism.What a joke!!!Guess after years I'm just over it!I just keep doing everything I can for my son to help him in life and to fit into society. And that's about all we as parents of children with autism can do. Constantly worrying what caused it is not helping my son in any way. I don't think there is an increase of cases, its just more talked about more accepted more diagnosed less ignored.

Now if autism was caused by vaccines could someone please explain how a child who never got vaccinated got autism?

How does a child who is placed on their back to sleep get SIDS?

The truth is, we don't know what causes Autism. However, to say "Child X was never vaccinated and has Autism, therefore vaccinations don't cause Autism" is holds just as much water as "Child Y had all vaccinations and has Autism, therefore vaccinations cause Autism".

Now if autism was caused by vaccines could someone please explain how a child who never got vaccinated got autism?

How does a child who is placed on their back to sleep get SIDS?

The truth is, we don't know what causes Autism. However, to say "Child X was never vaccinated and has Autism, therefore vaccinations don't cause Autism" is holds just as much water as "Child Y had all vaccinations and has Autism, therefore vaccinations cause Autism".

But its not just 1 child or even 25 children who haven't been vaccinated that have autism, if the only cause (which is what a lot of parents are claiming) is vaccines how does a child get it if they haven't been vaccinated? The original argument was that Thymerisol (spelling? the mercury based preservative) caused Autism, but once they discontinued it Autism rates still climbed. My argument does hold more water than saying they had a vaccine and got Autism therefor it causes autism. My argument is the same as you only get chicken pox if exposed to the virus, if you haven't been exposed you can't get it, so agian if Autism is caused by an ingredient in a vaccine, if you haven't been vaccinated and you still get it, then it can't be the cause.Your SIDS argument is ridiculous SIDS is not caused by having a baby sleep on their tummy but you can reduce the risk by having a baby sleep on their backs. their are many babies who sleep on their tummies who don't die of SIDS. It's the same as babies whose parents smoke around them are at a higher risk fir SIDS, but not all babies whose parents smoke die of SIDS.

But its not just 1 child or even 25 children who haven't been vaccinated that have autism, if the only cause (which is what a lot of parents are claiming) is vaccines how does a child get it if they haven't been vaccinated? The original argument was that Thymerisol (spelling? the mercury based preservative) caused Autism, but once they discontinued it Autism rates still climbed. My argument does hold more water than saying they had a vaccine and got Autism therefor it causes autism. My argument is the same as you only get chicken pox if exposed to the virus, if you haven't been exposed you can't get it, so agian if Autism is caused by an ingredient in a vaccine, if you haven't been vaccinated and you still get it, then it can't be the cause.Your SIDS argument is ridiculous SIDS is not caused by having a baby sleep on their tummy but you can reduce the risk by having a baby sleep on their backs. their are many babies who sleep on their tummies who don't die of SIDS. It's the same as babies whose parents smoke around them are at a higher risk fir SIDS, but not all babies whose parents smoke die of SIDS.

Interesting. On the safeminds.org website it seems to say that mercury(which thimerosal has in it, right?) is the reason for autism. I have heard this before, that autism looks a whole lot like mercury poisoning. For everyone saying that there has been kids that weren't vac'd and still have autism, couldn't it be that there is more than one cause? That mercury could be a trigger for some kids that are more sensitive to it, whereas other times the autism is just there genetically anyways?

Or it could be that autism typically shows up right around the same time that the 2-year shots take place, therefore parents draw a connection when there is none. But then, most parents will say a day or so after the shots, autism symptons started showing up... thats quite a coincidence.

I'm not sure what to think. I guess I don't really know enough about it. How horrible would it be to be the parent thinking, "If only I had done something differently". I can't imagine.

Interesting. On the safeminds.org website it seems to say that mercury(which thimerosal has in it, right?) is the reason for autism. I have heard this before, that autism looks a whole lot like mercury poisoning. For everyone saying that there has been kids that weren't vac'd and still have autism, couldn't it be that there is more than one cause? That mercury could be a trigger for some kids that are more sensitive to it, whereas other times the autism is just there genetically anyways?

Or it could be that autism typically shows up right around the same time that the 2-year shots take place, therefore parents draw a connection when there is none. But then, most parents will say a day or so after the shots, autism symptons started showing up... thats quite a coincidence.

I'm not sure what to think. I guess I don't really know enough about it. How horrible would it be to be the parent thinking, "If only I had done something differently". I can't imagine.

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