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The primary cats are part of the exhaust manifold, they cant be deleted without welding a pipe in its place to the exhaust manifold which isnt a problem, just more difficult, i havent looked at them real close but you might be able to gut them with them still on the car if you're careful. You would also need a tune to delete the rear o2 sensors otherwise you'll get a fault.

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Sorry for the stupid question...but how do you "gut" the secondary cats and is it virtually the same thing as fitting test-pipes (which as far as I can tell are not available right now?). This is for 2nd Gen 5.0. Second question, how does it change the sound and has anyone dyno'd any improvements?

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You will get a little more sound (not a whole lot). I'd be amazed if the increase in power/torque is measured to be any more than variations from pull to pull on a dyno. Likely less than 5 ft. lbs. torque/HP. This is an educated guess, not based on testing this car.

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You will get a little more sound (not a whole lot). I'd be amazed if the increase in power/torque is measured to be any more than variations from pull to pull on a dyno. Likely less than 5 ft. lbs. torque/HP. This is an educated guess, not based on testing this car.

I've had my intake and magnaflow catback for over a year, someone posted dyno results on youtube showing a 10-15 hp increase, I can say that after installing the test pipes a couple weeks ago, I do notice even more improvement in midrange torque and a definite better throttle response and my mpg is even better with the less restriction.

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Thanks for the info. I'm still not sure I want to gut the cats on my 2nd Gen 5.0, I'd rather install test pipes. I think I'm SOOL as I can't find them anywhere, and it seems they would have to be custom-made by an exhaust shop. Ist that correct or did I miss anything???

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I haven't been under a second-generation Genesis to see if the exhaust is different. The test pipes I have aren't even advertised for the 5.0 yet, they are a perfect fit. Might want to just take your car to an exhaust shop and have them made, probably won't cost much more than buying a set.

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