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How is Roger Stone getting away with claiming that he had no communication with Assange? He deleted the fucking post from Twitter shortly after he drunk-tweeted it, but he flat out said "we have an open back door communication with Wikileaks." He said this in between blathering some angry hateful shit, but it was there!

I really don't understand how stuff like this isn't considered obstruction of justice...

It's just so blatant and out in the open, it's unbelievable.

It is considered obstruction of justice. It's not a secret that he's done it, news sites are reporting on it, legal experts are weighing in, there is no doubt that's exactly what this is. Similar situations are routinely prosecuted.

The only question that remains is whether or not he'll be prosecuted for it, impeached for it, or get away with it. I used to be more optimistic about criminals being punished, but since he won it's really starting to appear that the whole idea of the justice system being effective was just an illusion.

I think Kellyanne hates her job and boss as much as her husband does. She doesn’t actually BELIEVE the shit she says. Come on. It’s gotta be driving her a bit crazy. I’m sure she’d love to scream out the stuff he tweets.

I think Kellyanne hates her job and boss as much as her husband does. She doesn’t actually BELIEVE the shit she says. Come on. It’s gotta be driving her a bit crazy. I’m sure she’d love to scream out the stuff he tweets.

I personally find it hard to believe that anyone in his inner circle doesn't hate him. I get it if you're a young WH staffer who just wants to have 1600 Penn Ave on your resume and you don't actually have anything to do with the president. But she's one of his closest people - I can't imagine a scenario in which she's there involuntarily.

Also for that Giuliani tweet...wow. Props to the guy who bought the domain name and made a quick (and successful) joke out of it. I can't tell if Rudy is so stupid that he honestly believes what he just said, or smart enough to know that his / Trump's supporters are so stupid that he can make up such an outrageously false claim and they'll believe him.

he was upset that Rudy had one of the more insane tweets so he felt he had to one up him?

What's insane about that? He simply noted that the only VP from the last 41 years (!!) to not be sitting in the pews was the one being remembered. If he had just left it at "everyone but one," the idiots of Twitter would be like "WELL? WHO'S THE JACKASS WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP?!" This was a basic tweet marking an historic occasion; nothing more.

If you really want to get into semantics and an existential argument, there was just a body there. The part of the whole package that was quintessentially Bush was not there. Or maybe it was. No one knows.

(I swear to god I'm not on drugs. I've just always found life / death / afterlife to be a fascinating subject).

If you really want to get into semantics and an existential argument, there was just a body there. The part of the whole package that was quintessentially Bush was not there.

Nonsense! What we call "consciousness" and "the self" are nothing but comforting illusions created to shield us from the brutality of the material universe. Bush Sr.'s consciousness hasn't gone anywhere because it never really existed in the first place. All that he ever was, like any other human being, was a collection of organic material responding to the stimuli around him. That collection of organic material that we referred to as "George H.W. Bush" is obviously present at this funeral, so Eskimo's point still stands.

Nonsense! What we call "consciousness" and "the self" are nothing but comforting illusions created to shield us from the brutality of the material universe. Bush Sr.'s consciousness hasn't gone anywhere because it never really existed in the first place. All that he ever was, like any other human being, was a collection of organic material responding to the stimuli around him. That collection of organic material that we referred to as "George H.W. Bush" is obviously present at this funeral, so Eskimo's point still stands.

I so desperately want to keep this going, but as much as I enjoy a good spanking, I really don't want one from any of the mods. So let's try to get this back on track, eh?

Hip hop lyrics are that MSNBC hosts' schtick. He prolly fed the line to Lupica. It's all so cringey.

Honestly, this isn't the political climate for "I'm so white I love hip hop as a gimmick!" at all... hire him back when we're not watching the razor-sharp pendulum inch closer to our collective necks, but this is getting too dorky and I'm not in the mood for another "what fun this all is! Why, it reminds me of a Wu Tang lyric!" thing.

Honestly, this isn't the political climate for "I'm so white I love hip hop as a gimmick!" at all... hire him back when we're not watching the razor-sharp pendulum inch closer to our collective necks, but this is getting too dorky and I'm not in the mood for another "what fun this all is! Why, it reminds me of a Wu Tang lyric!" thing.

Ari has done this for a long time now. This is nothing new. If you would give his interview with DeRay Mckesson a listen, you would find he is very on the pulse on a number of things and that there's more to him than quoting MF Doom during his show - https://crooked.com/podcast/protect-the-win2/

Honestly, this isn't the political climate for "I'm so white I love hip hop as a gimmick!" at all... hire him back when we're not watching the razor-sharp pendulum inch closer to our collective necks, but this is getting too dorky and I'm not in the mood for another "what fun this all is! Why, it reminds me of a Wu Tang lyric!" thing.

Well said. There is still a level of calm to alot of these establishment types on MSNBC & CNN that makes me sick. Above all else they seemed to be insulted by the lack of decorum surrounding Trump & the right these days (and by extension, as well as people on the progressive side who right now aren't sticking to the established rules re: discourse & gov'tmental procedure as they see fit) moreso than what is actually happening to the country b/c of the disgusting acts they are setting forth.

They just want a return to the established order of things and for everyone to quiet down. Sadly so do alot of regular people in this country who are being forced to pay attention to politics for the first time b/c of what a monster Trump and his far right cronies are this time around.