Not a review, just some observations: Couldn't pass it up at two bills. Solar movement (Caliber V157) seems pretty solid as it kicked in with just room light; 43.5mm but wears smaller; very comfortable once I sized (and it took forever) the freaking pin-and-collar system that Seiko invented for some ungodly reason (I'm sure there's a logical dive reason for it, but it's a real pain to size). However, feel wise, I like this bracelet much more than the 007 style; lume (LumiBrite) is exceptional. 200 meter dive rating. I have no idea why this is a "limited edition." Screw-down crown, obviously. This feels rock solid on the wrist. I think I got a bargain, and I'd wager this is going to get a lot of wrist time.

foghorn wrote:Great watch. An I like the cyclops.Most of my Seiko divers are bought on a rubber strap just to avoid all that pin and collar crap. It gives me agida,

Thanks all. Yeah, foghorn - it took me more than 90 minutes to devise the best way to insert the damn collar. I figured out a good way - use the center link, place the tube on a Bergeon pusher/bracelet tool, insert the tip into the hole, push it in with another tool off the first tool. That was the hardest part - just getting the tube/collar into the hole once again; the tweezer method was futile. But I'm a spazz to begin with.

bedlam wrote:I don't know that Seiko's Solar movements are holding up that well either. A bunch of people have reported their SSC divers have died. Mine certainly did.

I had read the same things. However, I already own a SNE109 with a V158 solar movement, and it's not only run solidly for eight months, but it also keeps perfect time. I felt a little safer going in on this one after that one. Time will tell, of course.

abduksion wrote:I like it better then those overrated/hyped Turtle models yes I said it.

Overrated how? Having used both the black and blue dialled versions I think they have completely shaded the SKX007/009. Which is no mean feat.

I don't know that Seiko's Solar movements are holding up that well either. A bunch of people have reported their SSC divers have died. Mine certainly did.

Turtles re-editions are just a poor attempt to revisit the original , pretty cased yet, overpriced , with a movement that's agricultural at best ....passA bunch of people are also reporting excellent results with the 3 hands Cal. V157 Solar....so far, mine is a keeper

I don't own that many solars so someone with experience knowing this would be appreciated

I consider all my solar watches beaters, but: I own both Citizen and Seiko solar watches; Citizen's Eco Drives have been Minute Rice perfect so far (at least, they rarely need to be re-set once they're charged well enough). The Seikos haven't been nearly as reliable, but most have been acceptable; The Seiko/Epson VS32 movement is a complete POS, but I haven't seen that one used in years. Solars, like Kinetics, need TLC. They're all okay, but it's not what I gravitate towards as a rule.

abduksion wrote:I like it better then those overrated/hyped Turtle models yes I said it.

Overrated how? Having used both the black and blue dialled versions I think they have completely shaded the SKX007/009. Which is no mean feat.

I don't know that Seiko's Solar movements are holding up that well either. A bunch of people have reported their SSC divers have died. Mine certainly did.

I don't see what's so special about them besides the fact their reissue of a former dive watch. Plus on a personal note I'm not all that crazy about the case shape.

They don't rate cos you don't like the case shape. Ok then. The reason I asked is I am probably the first who rated them on WL.

I tested it quite thoroughly as a dive watch and it performed exceptionally well. It's certainly a better dive watch than the SKX series for not much more money. That the case shape is a re-issue isn't relevant to how good a watch it is...most people really like it for that though.

Cheers.

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