Spokesman accuses Akinci of distorting facts about Crans-Montana

Turkish Cypriot leader Mustafa Akinci is distorting the facts about what happened in Crans-Montana, Government Spokesman Nicos Christodoulides said on Thursday.

In a written statement in response to comments by Akinci earlier in the day, Christodoulides said the Turkish Cypriot leader made “distorted and untrue references” in an attempt to blame President Nicos Anastasiades for the failure of the Swiss talks on July 7 by suggesting the latter was not ready for a solution.

“It is obvious that the Turkish Cypriot leader attempts to justify the Turkish side’s intransigent positions – including his own demands – for the continuation of the Treaty of Guarantees, the intervention rights and the permanent presence of Turkish troops in Cyprus,” the spokesman said.
He said the Turkish side had been unclear in its positions on territorial adjustments with the return of only part of Morphou and without the return of the Maronite villages.

“We do not wish to comment on the role or the non-existence of a role of Mr Akinci in what happened during the crucial negotiations in Crans Montana. It would be preferable if Mr Akinci, rather than making such unsubstantiated references, to reflect on whether his stance helps the Turkish Cypriot community, and on how he really safeguards the future of the Turkish Cypriots with approaches that are fully in line with those of Turkey,” the spokesman added.

Everyone is judged at the negotiating table by their proposals and their overall approach to the solution of the Cyprus problem, he said. “In Crans Montana, the Greek Cypriot side was the only one to submit concrete proposals within the framework of the UN Secretary-General which, unfortunately, received no response from the Turkish side, neither in writing nor orally”.
Akinci was quoted as saying on Thursday that the Greek Cypriot side was reluctant in all three rounds of negotiations, in Mont Pelerin, Geneva and Crans Montana and said this was obvious to the UN, the EU and to third parties.
“The Greek Cypriot side was not ready for this. That is why there is a lot of fights about Eide’s rhetoric. They [Greek Cypriots] are very uncomfortable that one of the UN is saying this,” Akinci claimed.
He said he did not want to get in the middle of Anastasiades and UN envoy Espen Barth Eide “flying at one another’s throat”.

However, he said that Anastasiades thought at Mont Pelerin last December that the Turkish Cypriot side would not have taken the initiative and “the other side panicked” when the Turkish side accepted 29.2 per cent when maps were exchanged.

Akinci also said that Anastasiades asked everyone to leave the room and when they were alone, he told him: “I beg your pardon; I am not ready for this”.

“We were on scheduled flights, they went with their team with a private plane. He wanted to talk with Athens. Go talk and come back, we told him. They asked for a period of ten days. He even used the name of the leader of Akel [as an excuse] and that they had internal political quarrels, but the whole issue was that they did not want to take the step,” said Akinci. Later in Geneva in January, the step back was taken by Greece.

“Greece, and the Greek Cypriot side then went to Crans-Montana with the belief that Turkey would not make an opening,” Akinci said.
“We showed flexibility… The UN, the EU and the third parties also saw this. The Greek side was not ready for that either. That’s why there are a lot of fights about Eide’s rhetoric. They are very uncomfortable that one of the UN is saying this,” he added.

This is a long comment, but I hope to provoke a sensible debate on where we are after the breakdown of the UN talks – that is more interesting than who said what.

Here is a very simple and obvious truth.

– both sides will never agree on anything substantive on this, or anything else
– neither side will agree to be ruled by the other
– neither side will accept a return to the 1960 position
– neither side will accept the 1974 pre Turkish intervention position
– neither side accepts responsibility for the division
– neither side wants to live with the other.

At the fringes of either side, there will be people who will disagree with the above, but I think an honest assessment from either side would probably agree with most of my bullet points.

The UN, EU and any other external attempt to impose a solution will also fail.

The GCs believe that the only problem is Turkey – remove Turkey and everyone would be happy.

They want no form of external involvement – Cyprus for “Cypriots” – which on the face of it is a fantastic aspiration. We view it a lot differently, partly because of history, but also because of the present.

We fear discrimination, or worse – and when you see senior GC politicians arguing only yesterday that they will accept any foreign troops or guarantees PROVIDED they are not Turkish, one can see the level of mistrust and hatred that is embedded in society. I am NOT complaining about the GCs holding that view. They have a long and bad history with Turks.

However, we TCs do not see ourselves as opponents of Turkey, nor do we see Turkey as “invaders” as 100% of GCs do. We TCs dislike many things about Turkey, some elements of migration from Turkey and the AKP party and Erdogan too. But that is it – we are not anti-turkish any more that GCs are anti-Greek.

We also vehemently oppose any notion that we prefer the prospect of living under the GCs with no real protection for our rights, or a so-called protection from the EU. It is not that we think GCs would harm us physically [though the growth of Elam is a concern] in any single state, but we are certain that under that state we would be treated poorly and we would not have any influence in the state, even with a rotating presidency. When we talk about rights that is what many of us mean.

We see that the GCs continue to use the embargoes in a manner will continue to destroy any prospects of a deal and the EU are seen by us as one sided and against our best interests – especially after it broke its promise to provide aid after the 2004 referendum [the GCs blocked that aid].

We have seen how the GCs have tried to hijack the island in 1963 and then again in 1974. We have also seen how in 2004, the GCs massively rejected a UN plan that we agreed to..

We have also seen every UN envoy trashed by the GCs and we have ZERO confidence in any so-called peace process. In our view, the GCs do not want to negotiate a deal. They want us to join them as a minority in what they see as THEIR country and in doing so, they see that we have no place in Cyprus unless under their terms – indeed many GC bloggers here tell us to leave Cyprus. That basic lack of understanding of our status as co-owners of Cyprus is very disturbing to us.

The GCs bloggers here tell us that we will never be “legal” and that may well be the case – the EU will block any recognition of the TRNC, We know that and we are not stupid. But in reality, what will that mean and what will be our response?

The “talks” have ended – unless either side changes its position, why would the UN start another process? So, in my view, talks are not the future [well not serious talks]. I think the response will be to further develop the north, and we will see investment in Morphou and probably in Varosha too. Those first steps on that started this week. We have also seen a response from the GCs that threatens legal steps, but in reality those steps cannot damage us any more than the embargoes of the last 43 years have.

The other big issue are the gas explorations which have the potential to create a real conflict on the island.

The issue to consider is what other measures the GCs will take if we develop Varosha?

The most extreme measure will be sanctions on Turkey, but apart from the fact that Turkey will not really care, the development will be merely financed by Turkey [as well as others], so EU sanctions whilst a possibility, will not be imposed. Turkey has invested in the North for 43 years and we are also seeing investment from other places.

The GCs might close the border points, but what would that do in terms of recognition of the north as a separate state? I think the GCs would find it hard to close the border points and retain its position as the “government” of the whole island, which we dispute anyway.

The GCs have run out of options with the UN and the EU cannot be an honest broker. Nato will not get involved and whilst Russia/Israel and the US dabble in Cyprus, in reality, they have no real interest, other than self interest. Greece and the UK say a few things, but neither have an appetite for a conflict with Turkey.

GCs here are waiting for Turkey to implode into a civil war and a break of the country – a stupid aspiration as any such explosion would impact not only on Cyprus, but also on many Greek islands too.

Neither will the Kurds deliver what the GCs want, which is a violent break up of Turkey.

I think that the status quo will persist, but Varosha, Gas and development in the North will be the new Cyprus conflict over the next 10 years or so,

That is my view folks and I think that a lot of hair air will be blown in the months ahead, but we will see Varosha re-opened, with or without GC agreement.

Brazen

A very good level headed summation from a TC. Can we now get a similarly reasoned view fro the Greek Cypriot perspective?

CM reader

keep dreaming turkoe

HighTide

How would you like being called Greeko?

The True Cypriot

`Let them say what they think.

The True Cypriot

Whose dreaming?

CM follower

Who do we believe? It can not be that us GCs are right on everything and everybody else got the their facts right or they are distorting the truth!

Pullaard

Unless the full transcript is published we will never know who said/did what in Crans Montana, but I can say that I’d trust the word of one of them (Akinci or Christodoulides) rather more than the other. Perhaps I should move to the north.

HighTide

Only part of the talks have been recorded. Those headed by Eide will have a protocol, direct talks between various parties will only have a partisan record, if at all. A full transcript of all what happened will never be available. We have to rely on UN conclusion.

Pullaard

Sadly you are right, but when were the Plebs ever told what really happened? And should we? Another conundrum.

HighTide

What the UN says is good enough for me, most likely for most too.

Mommy-O

I want to see the transcripts! I don’t want to hear any BS from either side. I want to make my own judgment. UN please release the transcripts. Then we will see who is to blame.

Douglas

Failure after failure after failure,when will this all end I wonder !!

Naci Rizaoglu

For Turkey and TCs an international force is ok so long as the Turkish troops are part of it (650 is good enough). A Greek contingent is also ok. The more the merrier.

Naci Rizaoglu

So for how long is this charade going to continue? I guess until elections are over.

The True Cypriot

We will now develop Guzelyurt and Maras,

Mark Hassan

if you think Turkish troops are leaving you are on drugs my friends. Never again.

Stanlio

Akinci has always struck me as being a bit thick and I was horrified that, when he became leader of the occupation regime, some Greek Cypriots thought they might have an honest and civilised Turk they could do business with. This was never going to be the case. For me, it was obvious Akinci was just another obtuse bigot of limited intelligence and abilities when he made a big song and dance over the enosis plebiscite commemoration. President Anastasiades should have realised then that Akinci was a coward and a dullard and not agreed to these Swiss meetings unless he was 100% convinced that the Turks were serious about reaching a deal that respected basic human rights, democracy and the rule of law.

cyprus observer

Such an arrogant statement. Your superiority complex is showing very strongly this evening.

Naci Rizaoglu

Not just this evening but every evening. He thinks he is a God given gift to humanity, that is how arrogant he is.

adash

Bitter and twisted diatribe. What is it about the ‘Turk’ that gets to you so much?
Present arguments for a change, if you can, not personal insults!

The True Cypriot

He is a racist.

End of.

Ismail Ismail

“just another obtuse bigot of limited intelligence and abilities” that’s sounds more like you than Akinci I would say

Brazen

Well of course when he was elected most GC’s were rubbing their hands with glee thinking that he was going to roll over on his back and concede almost anything they wanted. How wrong can you be?

The True Cypriot

The Turk is not a creature that should be provoked – a Turk incited by an unwanted provocation can turn into a not-so-nice Turk.

The Turk does not receive insults particularly well and one is reminded that the Turk, through the ages, is not a being that responds kindly to threats or intimidation.

Turning to the rule of law – the Turk does not appreciate any rule of law imposed by others and the Turk will swat away annoyances from those in his neighbourhood who try to take over parts of the neighbourhood of the Turk.

The law of the jungle is the ultimate sanctuary of the Turk and those who irritate the Turk with the pettiness of laws and rules would do well to remember that.

The Turk is low on words and strong on action – again those who provoke the Turk would do well to remember that.

Stay well old boy – chin up and smile.

Busta Hymen

Fancy words and total justification of a genocidal barbaric nation that doesn’t know who or what they actually are other than what they are fed. Undemocratic, islamofacist deniers of history. You keep believing your own BS. Sheeple at best, you keep in line with Article 301 old boy, there’s a good Turk. TC’s are Linobambakis, Google it.

The True Cypriot

You are having a go at me for taking the mike out of a vile racist?

I thought my words were on the money.

HighTide

Greek Cyprus must really be desperate, accusing all and sundry of lying. If the Pope would have been present he would be vilified as well. This is a suicidal attitude with a view to future events on the island that will not be in favour to the South.

Vlora

ROC is not ready for any amicable solution based upon some tolerance, mutual respect and some diplomacy till the next round of negotiations(if possible) can be initiated after the elections.

Frustrated

There won’t be a “next round” and I for one certainly hope there isn’t. Enough of this charade.

Frustrated

It would be nice if someone would put us all out of our collective misery and end this puerile behaviour.

There’s NEVER going to a solution to this accursed problem because there’ll never be a meeting of the minds so each party needs to go its own way. End of.

Sink the EU

You got it. That’s the EU for you. The EU does not care about your problems. You will need to adjust your thinking and accept it as is.

Frustrated

No. It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the EU and you know it.

It’s ultimately between the people on the island and they don’t have the will to solve it. Never have, never will. And both sides are beholden to their wretched ‘mothers’. Basket cases the lot of ’em.

Sink the EU

The old “shame the other side” game is over. According to the EU you are both misbehaving students and you both going to detention. There is only one way out of this: Submit to the EU’s wishes.

Vlora

UN is the authority in this case. EU is supporting UN.
Secondly the issue is not pertinent to EU.It is a wrong attitude that while disappointed by UN, now you are turning to EU.

Sink the EU

The UN is nothing. A subzero nothing.

Vlora

How

Sink the EU

Zero weight. Irrelevant.

Vlora

Sub-zero means it is a minus. This is what you mean? Pl explain as I would like to respond.

Sink the EU

Obviously.

Vlora

I wanted you to come up with your own confession so that your poor education may be exposed and people may know that you are just a negative person who is insane in expressions.
Any well read person in any branch of economics, econometrics and maths at post graduation level knows that
Any plus times a minus means a minus-it does not matter how big was PLUS and how small was MINUS.

Sink the EU

So?

Vlora

you are not an educated person and have no grip on the subject and just try to cheat all. You are worth ignoring because of your incompetence .

Sink the EU

Surely I can’t read or write and it’s only by miracle that I understand half of what you say.

gentlegiant161

You sound like some state troll trying to stir things up.
Explain this preposterous
Comment it owns your relatives?

The True Cypriot

The EU is not supporting the UN.

The EU has “decided” it has a role.

Originally, the EU did have a role as it related to linking the Turkish application to join with a resolution on Cyprus.

Turkey will never join the EU, so the EU can have no further role because it is not an independent broker.The EU’s only intention is to work with the GCs to remove Turks and TCs from Cyprus over time.

Finally, the EU, by taking in a divided Cyprus has created a huge problem for itself, by in effect, cementing the division we now see.

Juncker and the others should poke their noses somewhere else as we will not agree to EU involvement in the manner the GCs want.

Vlora

Don’t blurt out on me about EU role, EU past role and its present role for ROC as presumed by you .

The True Cypriot

All I say is that now that Turkey will not join the EU, it cannot have a fair role in the future of Cyprus , so far as many of us TC’s see it.

HighTide

Your hang up with the EU becomes a psycho problem.
What has the Union done to you?

Sink the EU

Nothing compared to what is had done to you.

HighTide

Now that is a surprise! What has the EU done to me, Mr Clairvoyant?

Sink the EU

O.k. So your people are not slaves of the EU. You would have fooled me old boy.

Sink the EU

It owns my relatives which is the same as you.

jobanana

I believe the people on the island have the will to solve their issues. It is Turkey who refuses to let go of their control, thus preventing a solution.

Brazen

You don’t seem to understand that it’s the TC’s who don’t want the Turkish troops to depart. I do believe however that they would accept a structured departure over a period of time, but what Anastasiades wanted was never going to be acceptable. If he is determined to stick to that demand there is no way that there is any point in continuing the charade.

jobanana

I personally believe the entire island should be demilitarized. It’s a real shame the status quo, but Turkey really has no right to impose their will on the island. What if Cyprus agreed to allow Turkey to have troops here only if they invited the equal number of troops from Greece? Would you agree to that?

Brazen

I thought that was included in the Annan plan? There were to be about (can’t remember exactly) 650 Turkish troops and 1000 Greek. I would agree to that and the TC’s did by voting for that plan, but the Greek side didn’t. I will just add that me accepting is irrelevant as I am not a Cypriot

The True Cypriot

Very good point.

The GCs want Cyprus under their total control.

You clearly understand that.

The True Cypriot

The troops are not the issue.

The issue is the status of the GCs and the status of the TCs.

The GCs think Cyprus is theirs – we do not agree.

If the Greeks put 40,000 troops into the south, it would not bother us, so long as they would not threaten the north

The Turkish Army have not threatened the south at all since 1974.

The troops will go when there is a deal, which one side [the GCs] demand wholly on their terms.

Understand the problem and solutions will then be clearer.

gentlegiant161

You could always stick to analysing America….you seem to know so much about USA and soo little about EU beaky.
First UN special advisor is called a liar…
Now Mr Ankinci
Why doesn’t Nick just publish official transcript ??

Sink the EU

He says: “The Greek side was not ready for that either”. Ready for what?

The only contribution Greece has in such meetings is to be the babysitter since Turkey can not speak to Cyprus because Cyprus according to Turkey does not exist. So Turkey talks to Greece so that it in turn can interpret to Cyprus.

HighTide

This is nonsense. All parties spoke to one another in Crans Montana and elsewhere. Not being recognized by Turkey, does not mean that the “Republic” does not exist. Same applies to the non recognized TRNC that is alive and kicking.

Sink the EU

Oh, yes. They all spoke to each other, exchanged pictures on Facebook and ate at McDonald’s. What are you smoking?

Ismail Ismail

Turkey doesn’t speak to Cyprus – it talks to the Greek Cypriot administration which
fraudulently pretends to be the government of all Cyprus which it is clearly not. In Turkeys eyes the legitimate Replublic of Cyprus ceased to exist in 1964. Does that make it clear for you?

Sink the EU

The EU and the rest of the world recognize only one legitimate country called the ROC. The ROC is neither GC nor illegitimate. It’s the country of both TCs and GCs.

Ismail Ismail

Doesn’t matter what the EU and the rest of world think – The GC run administration isn’t accepted by the TC’s as representing them. The EU should never have accepted a divided country into the club. They only did so with Greece threatening to veto other countries entry and Cyprus falsely promising to unite with the Annan plan. You can’t change history or the facts on the ground.

Sink the EU

What is done is done. What you have now is an entire island that belongs to the EU. The EU can’t cope with the concept of “partition”. It just can’t. So your only option now is to get used to the fact that you are in EU territory and learn to co-exist peacefully with your neighbors. Past history is irrelevant at this point.

Vlora

TCs have many options. You will see in future.

Sink the EU

I will tell the same which is that you will see in the future they have none. Europe is a continent borne of conflict. When you land in Brittany on the French coast and you go out east within a 100 Km you hear 3 different languages, many local dialects and people who used to be on each other’s throats. So you can’t impress the EU with your victimhood talk. They have seen it all and they are not swayed at all. Get used to the fact that the entire island is now EU territory which means really bad news for all its inhabitants. Obey the rules because you have zero options but finally made to obey.

Vlora

Not an EU territory.Now you need to read and research the meanings of term”territory” before coming up for a debate on this issue.Less than that I will ignore your comment because of its inherent incompetence.

Sink the EU

Then Google yourself this question “Is Cyprus EU territory?”, Because when I Google it myself I get this answer:

“Cyprus joined the EU as a de facto divided island but the whole of Cyprus is EU territory. Turkish Cypriots are EU citizens as they are citizens of an EU country – the Republic of Cyprus – even if they live in a part of Cyprus not under government control.”

So all TCs are already EU citizens. And as a citizen of the EU you have both privileges and obligations. The only thing that you can’t do is what you are doing right now; which is to have developed a lazy culture based on victimhood and wanting to collect multiple pensions for all the “crimes committed against you”. That’s the sort of crap that does not fly in Brussels. In Istanbul maybe.

Vlora

You are using the term with a wrong perspective.

Quasimodo

Right. They don’t accept it as representing them but they very conveniently choose to have EU passports -the result of work of an administration they don’t recognise.

The True Cypriot

Simple – withdraw the passports and close the border.

The next day, partition would occur.

Quasimodo

Dodging

The True Cypriot

But you side brought us into the EU, or so you claim.

We are playing your game.

Why complain about a situation you created??

Quasimodo

I’m not. Only highlighting the hypocrisy and the attitude ‘Whatever’s mine is mine and whatever’s yours is mine as well’

The True Cypriot

You are arguing that Cyprus “is 100% mine” and you use embargoes to try and beat me into submission.

The EU passports to TCs are a GC ploy to try and argue that only it is the sole government of Cyprus. The EU supports that view.

We say the island is owned 50:50.

If you do not want us to have any EU movement, shut the border and see what occurs next.

A consequence of the policy is that many brighter TCs have left and guess who has replaced them? The very people you GCs hate even more than us.

70,000 TCs left in Cyprus – the GC plot has worked to an extent, but it has spectacularly failed through an increase in Turkish migration to the north.

I am not dodging anything, but simply pointing out that you cannot take away my rights by giving me a passport to a club that you took me into without my agreement.

I am also pointing out that GC actions have caused a reaction that many of you now moan about.

Stay as we are or partition.

Quasimodo

No, Cyprus belongs to the Republic we started together, the very republic you so conveniently abandoned in 1963 on Turkey’s orders to put your plans for partition into practice (I’m not saying GCs were any angels back then and didn’t have their own ambitions, but don’t play the victim card on me).

To suggest the passport thing is a ploy is beyond ridiculous. To have denied TCs that right would have dire effects on us trying to put the country back together.

To claim that TCs are leaving because of GC policy and not Turkey who’s keeping you imprisoned in the occupied areas is also beyond ridiculous.
Turkey never gave a shit about you, it doesn’t consider you true Turks (remember Denktash’s simile with the barrel?) and one of the reasons it has flooded the north with settlers is this. It doesn’t give an iota if there was not even a single TC on the island. Your claim that it’s a GC ploy to get rid of TCs through EU passports and have them replaced with Anatolians that have nothing to do with local culture is nonsensical.

I’m not ‘giving’ you anything. You have as much legal right to a passport as I have. But since you want your own separate state out of principle you should have denied yourself that right instead of being hypocritical and enjoying the best of both worlds. Same issue with the gas. You talk about ‘borders’, ‘coastline’. ‘territorial waters’ etc. to push your claim for recognition but when it comes to benefits that unfortunately for you only exist in the south you remember that the whole of Cyprus belongs to TCs as well and you want your share of the pie. I wonder, would you have the same thinking if the gas reserves were found in the north instead? I very much doubt it.

The True Cypriot

Two words…

CO- OWNERS

You tried to hijack Cyprus through violence.

We are CO-OWNERS until something else is AGREED.

On passports, you have no choice as you cannot deny us passports and we take advantage of that. That does not mean we see you as our government.

Quasimodo

Thanks for proving my point. Sheer hypocritical view of things, from the 60s till now

The True Cypriot

CO OWNERS,

By all means the GCs should now cancel all TC passports – I dare it to do so.

If it did, then legal partition will be sealed.

Quasimodo

by repeating a mantra I haven’t refuted does not make you less hypocritical

The True Cypriot

If your disdain of us goes back to the 1960s. then why not argue a divorce rather than trying to claim Cyprus as yours?

Ultimate two faced hypocrite.

CO OWNERS

Quasimodo

veering off topic does not win you an argument with me dear hypocrite. Better luck next time 😉

Calling us “hypocrites” without a clear view about where that leads is shallow.

Now toodle along and think about what your argument is.

Quasimodo

Actually, I pity TCS, not ‘can’t stand’ them. Mere pawns of Turkey, who will eradicate them from the island, slowly but surely. The occupied area will be purely Islamic and Anatolian, unfortunately. Not that there’s much hope for the free areas either…

The True Cypriot

We don’t need pity from a people who evidently hate us – we recall 1960-74, the period where you call us hypocrites.

Look after yourselves – we need nothing from you.

Quasimodo

Whether you need it or not is irrelevant. It’s a feeling -personal, I don’t claim to represent all GCs- not an offer or any sort of support.

As for your final sentence, we will. One way or another, we’ve survived on this rock for 3000 years despite countless conquerors, so we must be doing sth right. It’s those who strayed away who face extinction…

Quasimodo

Ceased to exist in 1964? Did you just admit the invasion 10 years later was illegal then?

Ismail Ismail

No at all-just that it took Turkey 10 years and a Greek coup to get them to do something about it.

Quasimodo

Right. So the state ceased to exist but her guarantor and intervention rights still did? Very convenient!

Mong Hlop

so the silent puppet finally found his voice,,,,feared the sultan had removed his tongue together with his b…

Louis

Seems Akinci has caved in to his masters voice.
Such a shame.
Seemed at one time like he was a true Cypriot.
Then again, he dare not disobey, he would be branded a Gulenist.

Quasimodo

Seems?

The True Cypriot

“caved in”???

He is concerned not to cave in to GC demands for the total demise of the TCs that your side demand.

He did a great job

Anon

Nicos Christodoulides is positioning himself for a new job …
Working the stand up comedy circuit ..
He’ll do well …

Sink the EU

His name says that he is a servant of Christ.

Ambiguous

..or of Lucifer.

Sink the EU

Same thing.

Ozay Mehmet

And now Akinci & the TCs….Simply amazing. Mr. A and his team, living in a house with no mirrors, claiming to have monopoly of Honesty, Integrity and Truth. The naked Emperor!

Sink the EU

So both communities are made up of liars. So?

Ozay Mehmet

We know one ….

Sink the EU

And the one you know knows who the other is. So what?

Vlora

This all is a election campaign actually.

Sink the EU

Problems, problems, problems. C’mon people both TCs and GCs are slaves of the EU. So, obey and stop this daily nonsense.

Neroli

What’s the eu got to do with t??

HighTide

This is the reply of former ‘Athens owl’ to each and every post, regardless of the subject.
A paranoid attitude if ever there was one. A persecution syndrome.

Sink the EU

o.k. let the slaves think they are free then.

hh faris

Sink the EU WE are free my friend, that is WHY Germany/EU are in panic today.

Sink the EU

Some panic, I tell you.

Sink the EU

Well you see? The EU depends on not very bright citizens. If you don’t understand then that’s the point. They don’t want you to.

Sink the EU

Oh, nothing. Carry on. There will be soon a seminar in your local coffee shop about it.

Ambiguous

Take your pills. They’re coming for you from the EU. Just put your arms into the nice jacket. There’s a good chap. It won’t harm you.

Well, well it seems as if the Greeks are the only truthful ones that attended Crans-Montana. The Turks are lying, the Turkish Cypriots are lying, the neutral mediator Eide is lying.
Thank God the honest Greeks tell the truth. lol

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