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Milk and milk products are an annoyance to me; I love milk, and would like nothing more than to have an ice-cold chocolate milkshake, or a hot milky chocolate drink, lots of cheese etc...but, unfortunately, I can only tolerate so much before I have physical problems display themsleves...so, I have a little and that is very little and then back-off it for a few months...when I have milk, I make sure I thoroughly enjoy it though

It makes me wonder whether raw milk would be better for me; I also wonder if people that are more lactose tolerant were breast-fed.

Hubby was breast-fed as a child and then drank raw milk (still warm) on a farm whilst growing up since they had access to all the milk they wanted as part of the family's payment; he drinks milk with no issues at all. Neither pasturised nor raw caused him any issues.

Milk and milk products are an annoyance to me; I love milk, and would like nothing more than to have an ice-cold chocolate milkshake, or a hot milky chocolate drink, lots of cheese etc...but, unfortunately, I can only tolerate so much before I have physical problems display themsleves...so, I have a little and that is very little and then back-off it for a few months...when I have milk, I make sure I thoroughly enjoy it though

It makes me wonder whether raw milk would be better for me; I also wonder if people that are more lactose tolerant were breast-fed.

Hubby was breast-fed as a child and then drank raw milk (still warm) on a farm whilst growing up since they had access to all the milk they wanted as part of the family's payment; he drinks milk with no issues at all. Neither pasturised nor raw caused him any issues.

Ever try fermented milk products like natural yogurt? Apparently those are easier for some who react badly to regular milk.

Ever try fermented milk products like natural yogurt? Apparently those are easier for some who react badly to regular milk.

Lactose intolerance is mostly genetic, as far as I know.

Yeah, I can only eat a certain amount of yoghurt as well; however, my neice is allergic to milk and cannot even have it near her skin, and I wouldn't be surprised if milk issues also run in the family but not quite as severe as hers...with my sister also having issues with tolerance to milk.

The other day at my gym another trainer expressed disgust that I was downing a litre of whole milk during my workout. Later I found a young woman doing barbell quarter-squats with the pad on, and I coached her to proper squats, it turned out this other guy had previously trained her for three years and never taught her how to squat properly.

He prefers protein powder in water, saying that milk being pasteurised "isn't natural." I am not sure how pasteurising milk is less "natural" than pasteurising it, dehydrating it, and microfiltering it to remove the lactose and fats, but there you go.

Also the fats, he says, are bad for you. But since he cannot deadlift half of what an 83 year old man has managed, I am sceptical.

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Yeah, I can only eat a certain amount of yoghurt as well; however, my neice is allergic to milk and cannot even have it near her skin, and I wouldn't be surprised if milk issues also run in the family but not quite as severe as hers...with my sister also having issues with tolerance to milk.

Wow, that's quite severe.

My only food allergy that I am aware of is to the bacteria culture in Bleu cheese. I used to love the stuff, but now it's no good for me.

The other day at my gym another trainer expressed disgust that I was downing a litre of whole milk during my workout. Later I found a young woman doing barbell quarter-squats with the pad on, and I coached her to proper squats, it turned out this other guy had previously trained her for three years and never taught her how to squat properly.

He prefers protein powder in water, saying that milk being pasteurised "isn't natural." I am not sure how pasteurising milk is less "natural" than pasteurising it, dehydrating it, and microfiltering it to remove the lactose and fats, but there you go.

Also the fats, he says, are bad for you. But since he cannot deadlift half of what an 83 year old man has managed, I am sceptical.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of whey. I don't think I could drink that much milk during my lifting, but certainly afterward...

My thoughts. I suspect a lot of people who claim to have lactose intolerance simply have lowered production enzymes that process lactose. I'm sure the body has the ability to do this. Their non consumption leads to less production so that when they do ingest it overwhelms their digestive abilities. I bet using a periodization program for milk consumption would allow their systems time to develop more enzymes and therefore less intolerance.