Those who lose their way are those who begin to perceive that nothing is real. Many who access this place start to lose their solid ground. They feel that so many things are in flux around them that they do not know what to "believe" anymore. When the very nature of the universe you inhabit flips on you every other hour, this can be very natural. On the other hand, many who come to this place fall into the trap of paranoia. They become convinced that they are being "stalked" or have become "victims" of some universal conspiracy to bring about their end. Their fear again overwhelms them and this is when people begin to be labeled "delusional." The key to these problems is to accept that EVERYTHING is real. That every possible answer is equally as valid or likely as every other one. When we are conscious that the ground upon which we stand IS real but that there are also infinite other dimensions coexisting simultaneously with us, we retain our sanity. When we see that, indeed, the people around us are talking in code but that they themselves are UNAWARE of it (conduits for the universe or the "gods," as it were) we have no choice but to act accordingly. We begin to become adept at speaking in these dual or multiple meanings. It becomes a game for us. A universal game.

Kai valis, have you actually experienced this "void" and any of the beings which inhabit "it"? I think the word "void" is a misnomer as there is no void- but there is a space or number of spaces where these beings exist , and I get the sense that they inhabit/overlap/are immanent with/within ours.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37389491

Yes. "Void" is just a word for a place where everything converges. All realities exist and we begin to swim in a sea of uncertainty. It is a place where universal consciousness begins to project into our very realities.

Those who lose their way are those who begin to perceive that nothing is real. Many who access this place start to lose their solid ground. They feel that so many things are in flux around them that they do not know what to "believe" anymore. When the very nature of the universe you inhabit flips on you every other hour, this can be very natural. On the other hand, many who come to this place fall into the trap of paranoia. They become convinced that they are being "stalked" or have become "victims" of some universal conspiracy to bring about their end. Their fear again overwhelms them and this is when people begin to be labeled "delusional." The key to these problems is to accept that EVERYTHING is real. That every possible answer is equally as valid or likely as every other one. When we are conscious that the ground upon which we stand IS real but that there are also infinite other dimensions coexisting simultaneously with us, we retain our sanity. When we see that, indeed, the people around us are talking in code but that they themselves are UNAWARE of it (conduits for the universe or the "gods," as it were) we have no choice but to act accordingly. We begin to become adept at speaking in these dual or multiple meanings. It becomes a game for us. A universal game.

Those who lose their way are those who begin to perceive that nothing is real. Many who access this place start to lose their solid ground. They feel that so many things are in flux around them that they do not know what to "believe" anymore. When the very nature of the universe you inhabit flips on you every other hour, this can be very natural. On the other hand, many who come to this place fall into the trap of paranoia. They become convinced that they are being "stalked" or have become "victims" of some universal conspiracy to bring about their end. Their fear again overwhelms them and this is when people begin to be labeled "delusional." The key to these problems is to accept that EVERYTHING is real. That every possible answer is equally as valid or likely as every other one. When we are conscious that the ground upon which we stand IS real but that there are also infinite other dimensions coexisting simultaneously with us, we retain our sanity. When we see that, indeed, the people around us are talking in code but that they themselves are UNAWARE of it (conduits for the universe or the "gods," as it were) we have no choice but to act accordingly. We begin to become adept at speaking in these dual or multiple meanings. It becomes a game for us. A universal game.

Kai valis, have you actually experienced this "void" and any of the beings which inhabit "it"? I think the word "void" is a misnomer as there is no void- but there is a space or number of spaces where these beings exist , and I get the sense that they inhabit/overlap/are immanent with/within ours.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37389491

Yes. "Void" is just a word for a place where everything converges. All realities exist and we begin to swim in a sea of uncertainty. It is a place where universal consciousness begins to project into our very realities.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

Kai (VALIS), I'm just curious. What vantage point do you speak from? Are you a multi dimensional being with freedom to come and go from the human experience as you wish? Or are you a human with experience in multi dimensional travel?

Kai valis, have you actually experienced this "void" and any of the beings which inhabit "it"? I think the word "void" is a misnomer as there is no void- but there is a space or number of spaces where these beings exist , and I get the sense that they inhabit/overlap/are immanent with/within ours.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37389491

Yes. "Void" is just a word for a place where everything converges. All realities exist and we begin to swim in a sea of uncertainty. It is a place where universal consciousness begins to project into our very realities.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

Kai (VALIS), I'm just curious. What vantage point do you speak from? Are you a multi dimensional being with freedom to come and go from the human experience as you wish? Or are you a human with experience in multi dimensional travel?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44963317

I believe we humans ARE multidimensional entities. Our bodies just give us a sense of perspective in "time." But we all can experience multidimensionality. And dimensions come in many forms. People who are slaves to their emotions or others' emotions, for instance, are living in "lower dimensions."

The voids exist in so many realms and layers, in form, mental and combinations. So many voids, so little time for some and so much time for others. Wasn't meant to be fair but once one has experienced all of them the true nature and root cause of all things is easily understood and that is ok, neither good nor bad

The voids exist in so many realms and layers, in form, mental and combinations. So many voids, so little time for some and so much time for others. Wasn't meant to be fair but once one has experienced all of them the true nature and root cause of all things is easily understood and that is ok, neither good nor bad

What often drives experiencers of the void to a point of madness is not being able to relate what they are experiencing to others. Or rather, what convinces others that the experiencer is mad is their not being able to relate. When we can define what it is we are seeing or feeling and then use words to communicate these ideas (without losing control) we are able to show those around us that we are indeed lucid. Many simply give up. Many feel that what they are perceiving is so vast and grandiose that there is no hope of ever being able to define it. Perhaps this is the case. But when we at least begin to make an attempt, we can prove that we are possibly more sane than those who are "sleeping" around us. However, we must also realize that taken to a certain point, this behavior can be dangerous. Many do not wish to have their minds bent to such a degree. We must learn to respect their wishes or often we pay a price. Find us (those who can enter and exit the void) and communicate with us.