I'm curious to know how many people actually know a language.
I learnt Aurebesh so I could keep a diary that no one could read an I'm learning Mandoa for fun.
I've put what I think are the main three languages that people have learnt. If anyone has learnt any others please post what they are._________________Luke and Obi-Wan are in a Chinese restaurant and Luke is having trouble.
Finally Obi-Wan says "Use the forks, Luke".

I know Aurebesh (which is the alphabet, not the language), and know some Mando'a, but I've not really made much of an effort with Mando'a._________________I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it (or even read all of it). These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:06 am

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ReepicheepMaster

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I haven't. How long does it take to read and write Aurebesh fluently?_________________
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:27 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1810Location: Ontario, Canada

Are Mando'a and Huttese really full-on languages though? I know that numerous terms were constructed, and loose grammars were made (which, oddly enough, mirrored English almost perfectly), but I didn't think enough was done to call them languages.

This is in opposition to Klingon, or Elvish, where I understand a lot more was done. Unique grammar, full dictionaries, etc._________________"I'm...from Earth."

I want to learn Mando'a and/or Huttese, but I don't know where. The Wook has a pretty good page but doesn't give a great amount of info inn grammar and tenses and stuff._________________There's always a bigger fish - Qui Gon Jinn.

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Are Mando'a and Huttese really full-on languages though? I know that numerous terms were constructed, and loose grammars were made (which, oddly enough, mirrored English almost perfectly), but I didn't think enough was done to call them languages.

This is in opposition to Klingon, or Elvish, where I understand a lot more was done. Unique grammar, full dictionaries, etc.

I don't know about Huttese, but I don't think Mando'a can be called a full-on language. Or at least one that is workable in real life. I've heard of people who can converse in it fluently, day to day, but I can't. I can only learn a few phrases.

Dannik, I was going to say that Karen Traviss' website has details on grammar and stuff like that (including a full list of words) but I can't find it now._________________I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it (or even read all of it). These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

Not long. A few days, maybe._________________I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it (or even read all of it). These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:47 am

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VestaraPadawan

Joined: 26 Feb 2012Posts: 41Location: Kesh

I'm not entirely sure if huttese is a full language but I know someone who has learnt it so I guess it kinda is.
Mandoa is about as full a language as you can get for Star Wars. Here is the official website: http://www.karentraviss.com/page20/page26/index.html
I know Aurebesh is only an alphabet but I included it anyway._________________Luke and Obi-Wan are in a Chinese restaurant and Luke is having trouble.
Finally Obi-Wan says "Use the forks, Luke".

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:29 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1810Location: Ontario, Canada

You see, I just had a look at the Mando'a dictionary, and it contained less than 1200 words.

According to wikipedia, the Oxford English Dictionary contains 250,000 words, and that doesn't include scientific/technical terminology.

A true language needs to have enough words to be able to account for any circumstance. Doctors working in the field. Scientists in the lab. Random dialogue as if written by Whedon or Tarantino, which could go into any topic known to man.

Even Klingon has about 3,000 words, more than twice as Mando'a (and has an official ISO designation as a language).

See, that's funny. My sister and I both learned to read and write in Aurebesh (as did Padme, I believe) so we could send notes back and forth that no one could read. I've lost the ability at this point (as in I have to think long and hard about what something says), but I'm sure I could pick it back up fairly quickly if I devoted the time._________________
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I did learn it, as well. I used to be able to write and read it easily, but I haven't used it in so long, it's more difficult for me now._________________All things die, Anakin Skywalker, even stars burn out.

You see, I just had a look at the Mando'a dictionary, and it contained less than 1200 words.

According to wikipedia, the Oxford English Dictionary contains 250,000 words, and that doesn't include scientific/technical terminology.

A true language needs to have enough words to be able to account for any circumstance. Doctors working in the field. Scientists in the lab. Random dialogue as if written by Whedon or Tarantino, which could go into any topic known to man.

Even Klingon has about 3,000 words, more than twice as Mando'a (and has an official ISO designation as a language).

So that's my POV.

I don't think the number of words has so much to do with it, so much as workable grammar and adaptability does. Esperanto and Toki Pona had very few root words to begin with (less than Mando'a does now), and they were considered as languages from the beginning. As I said, I haven't made that big an effort to learn it, so I can't be sure, but that people can converse in it lends me to believe that it can be considered a language, because it apparently has a workable grammar._________________I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it (or even read all of it). These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:32 pm

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Darth SkuldrenModerator

Joined: 04 Feb 2008Posts: 6658Location: Missouri

The best languages are the ones with fewer words. Much easier to understand. I mean, look at binary: one, zero. That's it. Great language. _________________
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:07 am

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Lord Ree'diusMaster

Joined: 11 Apr 2011Posts: 700Location: The Unknown Regions

I can read the aurebesh, but not as good as I used to.
If I don't use it for a while the knowledge is kinda pushed back in my mind and tends to rust a little but it's still there.

As for Mando'a and Huttese, Mando'a is a real language I think, but with precious few words. I haven't learned it, because I already had enough trouble with learning real world languages so I didn't want to bother with this just for kicks.

Huttese isn't a real language (yet), just a collection of words and phrases.
But there are some real cool words and phrases there and if it where a working language I would be tempted to learn it.
For now I'll just use the Huttese expressions I like._________________"Strong you are with the dark side, young one. But not that strong.
Still much to learn, you have. Surrender, you should."

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