A Terrible Human:So what is there to technically stop him from just straight up living in an airport at this point?

According to earlier statements from Russia, their laws don't allow them to deport Snowden from the airport's transit zone. ...unless Putin changes his mind, of course -- then the law does allow for it. Laws are amazingly flexible things.

vpb:A Terrible Human: So what is there to technically stop him from just straight up living in an airport at this point?

Running out of money.

And the fact that Sheremetyevo is a hell-hole. I've been in 1-gate airports in the Caribbean that are nicer and better run. Hell, the airport in Cairo is a model of efficiency compared to Sheremetyevo.

Legal sources tell NBC News that the former second ranking officer in the U.S. military is now the target of a Justice Department investigation into a politically sensitive leak of classified information about a covert U.S. cyber attack on Iran's nuclear program

According to legal sources, Retired Marine Gen. James "Hoss" Cartwright, the former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has received a target letter informing him that he's under investigation for allegedly leaking information about a massive attack using a computer virus named Stuxnet on Iran's nuclear facilities. Gen. Cartwright, 63, becomes the latest individual targeted over alleged leaks by the Obama administration, which has already prosecuted or charged eight individuals under the Espionage Act.

LasersHurt:I read his statement from Russia, and it was pretty hard to take seriously. A mix of delusions of grandeur and fear and, I don't know... an immaturity of view?

I think so. The bit about using "citizenship as a weapon" is especially strange. He didn't know that the state department can revoke the passport of a wanted fugitive? He doesn't grasp the difference between citizenship and a passport?

Not learning a bit about how international travel works is about as smart as trying to get asylum in Iceland by flying to Hong Kong.

FrancoFile:vpb: A Terrible Human: So what is there to technically stop him from just straight up living in an airport at this point?

Running out of money.

And the fact that Sheremetyevo is a hell-hole. I've been in 1-gate airports in the Caribbean that are nicer and better run. Hell, the airport in Cairo is a model of efficiency compared to Sheremetyevo.

vpb:LasersHurt: I read his statement from Russia, and it was pretty hard to take seriously. A mix of delusions of grandeur and fear and, I don't know... an immaturity of view?

I think so. The bit about using "citizenship as a weapon" is especially strange. He didn't know that the state department can revoke the passport of a wanted fugitive? He doesn't grasp the difference between citizenship and a passport?

Not learning a bit about how international travel works is about as smart as trying to get asylum in Iceland by flying to Hong Kong.

People biatch about how no one does enough to fight back when the US takes away their rights, that government agencies can set up things like the TSA to sexually assault our grandmothers and frighten our children, that the gitmo prison remains open, and that the government puts the interests of corporations and big business ahead of their own citizens... But when people like Snowden, and Dorner get sick and tired of the corruption and the lies being fed to us actually try to do something to make a change, we the people seem to turn on them like snarling animals.I don't get it... Why aren't more US citizens supporting Snowden? He brought to attention a vast conspiracy against the US population and the world by showing how the US spies on it's own citizens and its allies. Dorner got tired of the rampant corruption that plagues the police system and through action tried to affect change.How do people think change happens? By peaceful protests like Occupy Wall Street that left the 1% laughing at the ineffectual and impotent rage that we feel, or by the people getting angry and using violent revolution to remind the government that they should fear us, and not the other way around.

LasersHurt:vpb: LasersHurt: I read his statement from Russia, and it was pretty hard to take seriously. A mix of delusions of grandeur and fear and, I don't know... an immaturity of view?

I think so. The bit about using "citizenship as a weapon" is especially strange. He didn't know that the state department can revoke the passport of a wanted fugitive? He doesn't grasp the difference between citizenship and a passport?

Not learning a bit about how international travel works is about as smart as trying to get asylum in Iceland by flying to Hong Kong.

Apparently? The whole "man without a state" thing was silly.

You want to be depressed?

This man, who is clearly a colossal idiot, managed to $200k a year job in Hawaii, and was banging a hot but crazy stripper girlfriend. That's quite an accomplishment for colossal idiot.

LasersHurt:vpb: LasersHurt: I read his statement from Russia, and it was pretty hard to take seriously. A mix of delusions of grandeur and fear and, I don't know... an immaturity of view?

I think so. The bit about using "citizenship as a weapon" is especially strange. He didn't know that the state department can revoke the passport of a wanted fugitive? He doesn't grasp the difference between citizenship and a passport?

Not learning a bit about how international travel works is about as smart as trying to get asylum in Iceland by flying to Hong Kong.

Apparently? The whole "man without a state" thing was silly.

He's a netizen don't you know. The romantic view of being a rebel without a home is very common among wannabe "Internet gods". Assange, and to some extend Kim Dotcom all want to be seen as somehow above mere citizenship.

Wolf892:People biatch about how no one does enough to fight back when the US takes away their rights, that government agencies can set up things like the TSA to sexually assault our grandmothers and frighten our children, that the gitmo prison remains open, and that the government puts the interests of corporations and big business ahead of their own citizens... But when people like Snowden, and Dorner get sick and tired of the corruption and the lies being fed to us actually try to do something to make a change, we the people seem to turn on them like snarling animals.I don't get it... Why aren't more US citizens supporting Snowden? He brought to attention a vast conspiracy against the US population and the world by showing how the US spies on it's own citizens and its allies. Dorner got tired of the rampant corruption that plagues the police system and through action tried to affect change.How do people think change happens? By peaceful protests like Occupy Wall Street that left the 1% laughing at the ineffectual and impotent rage that we feel, or by the people getting angry and using violent revolution to remind the government that they should fear us, and not the other way around.

This is Fark. The people here *are* snarling animals, regardless of who or what is at issue.

If person X leaks secrets, he's breaking the law and therefore in the wrong.

If X keeps his mouth shut and keeps the secrets, then he's complicit in the invasion of our privacy and also in the wrong.

Satanic_Hamster:Wolf892: Dorner got tired of the rampant corruption that plagues the police system and through action tried to affect change.

He murdered innocent people. Go fark yourself.

I didn't say he did it the right way, only that he had the balls to take a stand and try to do something about it. On the other hand, what's that about the tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants... people die in revolutions, it's the message that matters.

Wolf892:I don't get it... Why aren't more US citizens supporting Snowden? He brought to attention a vast conspiracy against the US population and the world by showing how the US spies on it's own citizens and its allies.

That's because you're making an assumption that he brought to attention a vast conspiracy against the US population and the world by showing how the US spies on its own citizens and allies.

He didn't.

He worked someplace for three months, and came out and made a bunch of assertions for which he provided no substantive evidence, and for those things he said that we've been able to check, it turns out he lied.

So for those of us who weren't already convinced that the US was engaged in a vast conspiracy against the US population and the world by spying on its own citizens and allies, Snowden didn't have instant credibility.

Wolf892:Satanic_Hamster: Wolf892: Dorner got tired of the rampant corruption that plagues the police system and through action tried to affect change.

He murdered innocent people. Go fark yourself.

I didn't say he did it the right way, only that he had the balls to take a stand and try to do something about it. On the other hand, what's that about the tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants... people die in revolutions, it's the message that matters.

You're either openly trolling at this point or you're a Newsmax Employee.

Bobbinsworth:Did anyone mention this link is a PREPEAT of 7 links up the main page?

Did anyone ever tell you that all you accomplish by yelling repeat in a crowded queue is the inability to comment in a thread, along with shutting down any other liter who would have liked to have seen it? I would pay an extra dollar a month not to have to wonder which emotional disorder causes that sort of behavior.