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Glad Trion was able to put some info out.

They aren't going to show anything until they are ready and satisfied with the quality, so sounds like beta at the end of 2013? I guess they can delay it slightly, but it would need to be in line with XLGames, who stated they want it out early 2014 (or before).

Trion may have been a little over ambitious when they picked this title up earlier this year, when they said they were aiming for late 2013. Perhaps there was an escape clause in their contract about unforeseen events, like massive restructuring.

XLGames is redoing early game experience entirely due to feedback from Korean playerbase who pretty much hated the first portion of the game that feels like a traditional quest-themepark (after level 30 this goes away).

I wish Trion would confirm this, as again this news is from Korea - it would make sense that the US/EU version will be the newly redone game without easrly themepark quests.

So before this is complete - I highly doubt that we'll get to beta ArcheAge here, meanwhile I'll keep playing on Korean servers - my Korean is getting pretty decent already lol (picked it up by playing AA)

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Originally posted by bcbullyEvery month that goes by, is a month lost where player could become invested. The worst thing they could do is release right before ESO, or EQN:L. It will be a TSW/GW2 situation.

No, that is not the worst thing they could do. They are already doing the worst thing they could do; not giving the game any media attention.

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Trion had better choose the release date VERY carefully or have no chance at all.This game does some things that are interesting and exploration will be interesting at times,but on an overall design level,it is still more of the same old.

There are simply too many games in this genre and not enough players to entice.You might get a fair number of players trying the game for a month or two,but many will go back to other games they have invested time into.

Trion had also better market this game well with lots of videos and dev speak.If they think they can simply have a Beta,then announce a release date and millions will come,they are really bad at marketing and have poor perception of the industry.

There are games and many of them ,that are designed from the ground up as an instant profit game,sell the box and you make profit,imo this game was not designed like that,so it needs longevity.

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It is a shame they couldn't get this ready for an end of 2013 release, looks like there's going to be a window of opportunity then which no one in the MMORPG space is really stepping up to fill.

Great news for FFXIV actually, will give them more space before facing new competiion, and like someone said, Trion should try to avoid going head to head with some of the other AAA's that are better marketed, they'll lose on that front alone.

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Originally posted by Wizardry

I really hope Archeage has some success,but my gut is skeptical.

It's hard to predict if it is going to be successful or not, since it's a different type of MMO from the mindless repetitive instance farming ones. There are people calling it a WoW-Clone because they are uninformed and because of the themepark elements it has, but once you try it, you will see the differences.

Since it's going to be a new MMO when it comes out, many will try it out, the question is, how many of them will like it and stay to play it after the 1st, 3rd month. And how Trion will handle the westernization of it. Don't forget that there is a huge crowd of gamers who want something different from the traditional WoWish themeparks.

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It is a shame they couldn't get this ready for an end of 2013 release, looks like there's going to be a window of opportunity then which no one in the MMORPG space is really stepping up to fill.

Great news for FFXIV actually, will give them more space before facing new competiion, and like someone said, Trion should try to avoid going head to head with some of the other AAA's that are better marketed, they'll lose on that front alone.

ArcheAge will not compete with PvE themepark games - it appeals to a sandbox guild oriented PvP player. People that solely enjoy PvE games would not enjoy open world PvP at all.

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It is a shame they couldn't get this ready for an end of 2013 release, looks like there's going to be a window of opportunity then which no one in the MMORPG space is really stepping up to fill.

Great news for FFXIV actually, will give them more space before facing new competiion, and like someone said, Trion should try to avoid going head to head with some of the other AAA's that are better marketed, they'll lose on that front alone.

ArcheAge will not compete with PvE themepark games - it appeals to a sandbox guild oriented PvP player. People that solely enjoy PvE games would not enjoy open world PvP at all.

That's too bad. I was looking forward to this game but not if its focus is on open world pvp with nothing for carebearish PvErs like myself to do.

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"Don't think in weeks, more like months."

That statement is so vague, it's basically meaningless. Until they give dates, we might as well assume the game will never be released. This way we're all pleasantly surprised if / when the release date is finally announced!

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It is a shame they couldn't get this ready for an end of 2013 release, looks like there's going to be a window of opportunity then which no one in the MMORPG space is really stepping up to fill.

Great news for FFXIV actually, will give them more space before facing new competiion, and like someone said, Trion should try to avoid going head to head with some of the other AAA's that are better marketed, they'll lose on that front alone.

ArcheAge will not compete with PvE themepark games - it appeals to a sandbox guild oriented PvP player. People that solely enjoy PvE games would not enjoy open world PvP at all.

Correct. I think the players that can play and stay longer in AA are the EVE/Lineage 2/Aion/DF/MO/UO/AoW crowd, and even some of these can dislike AA because its themepark features and the PVP with so many safezones for their taste.

The pure PVE raid grinders "achievers" will pass away fom AA.

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