A (juicy) disquisition on the arts between yours truly and the host of the dawning Never Meet Your Heroes Podcast, juggling topics from forty thousand years of painting, Blade Runner, Hieronymus Bosch, and the Baja Desert, to darkroom shenanigans, the Mayor of L.A., dissing Isabel Allende, and much more. Feel free to forward to your art-loving friends, family, and foes! Enjoy!