starrlamia wrote:TBH I think there are worse things someone can do with a pet then feed them not as good food. Ideally a food without tons of filler should be fed, but sometimes circumstances dont allow for that and saying someone should not own dogs because maybe they lost their job or are going through rough times is ludicrous and mean.

I feed hills j/d (gasp!) and my dogs do better on it than they did on Orijen (during which Buddy's bloodwork indicated renal disease), California Naturals, Wellness Core, Prairie Salmon, etc. And right now, due to her recent bout of HGE/pancreatitis, they are eating Purina Gastro EN, then we will switch back to j/d.

I think the point of my post has been lost.The food based on ingredients seems fine, THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM IS KILLING PETSDiamond is killing cats and dogs, making humans sick and its not the first time.

Its when that is apparent and people STILL want to feed the food because its the best they can afford boggles my mind. When your budget allows for such little choice and you go with a company that has a horrible records I do not understand.

I didnt mention high protein foods, I mentioned foods that actually have some meat in them. I mentioned that companies without recalls and make their own food make a wiser choice AND that they are not necessarily more expensive.

Celesteandthebullies wrote:I don't think people should take on animals if they cannot afford to feed them proper nutrition. Would it not be irresponsible to have a kid and only afford top ramen?

Dogs didn't ask to be brought into our lives. We brought them. I want them to live healthily, not lose a few years off their life.

If you can't afford quality food, then you're going to be screwed if a surprise vet bill comes along.

I'm iffy/okayish with Kirkland for low income,but, if possible better food should be given. Ain't going to change now obviously, but one should take if as a lesson for future dogs.

Sorry, I don't like sugar coating.

I agree with this in a way, but whether Diamond brands are good quality food is a matter of opinion, not fact. To say that someone shouldn't have dogs because they feed their dogs TOTW or Kirkland is an extremely ignorant and idiotic statement to make. Also, some dogs do just as well on crap food as they do on high quality. My parents feed their dogs Purina, and they do excell. Anything else makes them sick and my parents take great care of their dogs.

Why are you saying this to me? ... I feed my dogs TOTW. Maybe you got me confused with someone else?

Enigma wrote:And another thing... Grain free foods have been imported to our country just a couple of years ago, here foods like Purina Pro Plan, Hill's Science Diet, Royal Canin, Eukanuba, Tehni-Cal and similar foods are still considered very high quality, most dog owners feed them and dogs do well on them. Go figure.

So yeah, I can agree with having high standars and feeding your dog the best food possible, but I think saying that 4 star dog foods or even some of the 3 star dog foods are total crap and people who feed them shouldn't own dogs is going a bit too far IMO.

Timas Mom wrote:I think the point of my post has been lost.The food based on ingredients seems fine, THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM IS KILLING PETSDiamond is killing cats and dogs, making humans sick and its not the first time.

Its when that is apparent and people STILL want to feed the food because its the best they can afford boggles my mind. When your budget allows for such little choice and you go with a company that has a horrible records I do not understand.

I didnt mention high protein foods, I mentioned foods that actually have some meat in them. I mentioned that companies without recalls and make their own food make a wiser choice AND that they are not necessarily more expensive.

Please show me where Diamond has killed a dog?

My dogs do great on TOTW, please give me a good reason why I should change it. Because your posts are offensive and just plain rude.

Timas Mom wrote:I think the point of my post has been lost.The food based on ingredients seems fine, THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM IS KILLING PETSDiamond is killing cats and dogs, making humans sick and its not the first time.

Its when that is apparent and people STILL want to feed the food because its the best they can afford boggles my mind. When your budget allows for such little choice and you go with a company that has a horrible records I do not understand.

I didnt mention high protein foods, I mentioned foods that actually have some meat in them. I mentioned that companies without recalls and make their own food make a wiser choice AND that they are not necessarily more expensive.

Please show me where Diamond has killed a dog?

My dogs do great on TOTW, please give me a good reason why I should change it. Because your posts are offensive and just plain rude.

ChevellesMomma...Really?! Multiple Diamond plants are responsible for making these foods that are killing cats, dogs, and making humans ill due to salmonella poisoning. Have you not read anything about this in the last month?

I personally would stop feeding foods produced by Diamond after so many recalls. But then again, there are only a couple of foods made by them imported into our country and I've only tried TOTW once, it didn't work for my dogs.

Timas Mom wrote:I think the point of my post has been lost.The food based on ingredients seems fine, THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM IS KILLING PETSDiamond is killing cats and dogs, making humans sick and its not the first time.

Its when that is apparent and people STILL want to feed the food because its the best they can afford boggles my mind. When your budget allows for such little choice and you go with a company that has a horrible records I do not understand.

I didnt mention high protein foods, I mentioned foods that actually have some meat in them. I mentioned that companies without recalls and make their own food make a wiser choice AND that they are not necessarily more expensive.

Please show me where Diamond has killed a dog?

My dogs do great on TOTW, please give me a good reason why I should change it. Because your posts are offensive and just plain rude.

I was genuinely asking to please show me where Diamond has killed a dog, because I have not seen or looked up anything on past recalls. If you thought it was me being sarcastic, I'm sorry that you interpreted it incorrectly. This recent recall though, did not result in the death of any dogs.

ChevellesMomma wrote:I was genuinely asking to please show me where Diamond has killed a dog, because I have not seen or looked up anything on past recalls. If you thought it was me being sarcastic, I'm sorry that you interpreted it incorrectly. This recent recall though, did not result in the death of any dogs.

Well not yet. But previous ones have. Im sorry you find me rude, I just dont understand your rationelle. They have killed pets=factIts happened more than once=factThey get sited by the fda for mishandling of ingredients that arent even listed in ANY of the foods they are to be making =fact (and where the hell ARE they using it?)

I dont know what it would take for you to see my point. If you do like TOTW so much, demand they use a better plant! One that doesnt completely fail at every turn. One that has a decent track record. One that hasnt killed pets.

ChevellesMomma wrote:I was genuinely asking to please show me where Diamond has killed a dog, because I have not seen or looked up anything on past recalls. If you thought it was me being sarcastic, I'm sorry that you interpreted it incorrectly. This recent recall though, did not result in the death of any dogs.

Well not yet. But previous ones have. Im sorry you find me rude, I just dont understand your rationelle. They have killed pets=factIts happened more than once=factThey get sited by the fda for mishandling of ingredients that arent even listed in ANY of the foods they are to be making =fact (and where the hell ARE they using it?)

I dont know what it would take for you to see my point. If you do like TOTW so much, demand they use a better plant! One that doesnt completely fail at every turn. One that has a decent track record. One that hasnt killed pets.

My dogs do well, GREAT on it. That's all the "fact" I need to keep them on it.

Timas Mom wrote:Well not yet. But previous ones have. Im sorry you find me rude, I just dont understand your rationelle. They have killed pets=factIts happened more than once=factThey get sited by the fda for mishandling of ingredients that arent even listed in ANY of the foods they are to be making =fact (and where the hell ARE they using it?)

I dont know what it would take for you to see my point. If you do like TOTW so much, demand they use a better plant! One that doesnt completely fail at every turn. One that has a decent track record. One that hasnt killed pets.

My dogs do well, GREAT on it. That's all the "fact" I need to keep them on it.

Mine has done well on TOTW, too. I've been completely happy with that brand until this recent recall. It's simply too wide spread for me to feel comfortable feeding their food after everything that has been made public, and the above mentioned issues. There have been incidences of sick dogs in my state who have been fed diamond foods even though Washington isn't on the recall list. Maybe coincidence, maybe not. It's not worth chancing my dog's health, or mine. We've switched over to Horizon Pulsar fish protien, which is a nice transition from the TOTW pacific stream we were using. It's the same price as TOTW, and comes from a small company that manufactures everything in their own plant and has never had to issue a recall.

Timas Mom wrote:Well not yet. But previous ones have. Im sorry you find me rude, I just dont understand your rationelle. They have killed pets=factIts happened more than once=factThey get sited by the fda for mishandling of ingredients that arent even listed in ANY of the foods they are to be making =fact (and where the hell ARE they using it?)

I dont know what it would take for you to see my point. If you do like TOTW so much, demand they use a better plant! One that doesnt completely fail at every turn. One that has a decent track record. One that hasnt killed pets.

My dogs do well, GREAT on it. That's all the "fact" I need to keep them on it.

Mine has done well on TOTW, too. I've been completely happy with that brand until this recent recall. It's simply too wide spread for me to feel comfortable feeding their food after everything that has been made public, and the above mentioned issues. There have been incidences of sick dogs in my state who have been fed diamond foods even though Washington isn't on the recall list. Maybe coincidence, maybe not. It's not worth chancing my dog's health, or mine. We've switched over to Horizon Pulsar fish protien, which is a nice transition from the TOTW pacific stream we were using. It's the same price as TOTW, and comes from a small company that manufactures everything in their own plant and has never had to issue a recall.

That is great, and it is your right to do that. My only problem with the previous posts is the one claiming that people who continue to feed Diamond are irresponsible and should not have dogs....