Did God Create Adam With A Penis, But Have No Intention of Creating Eve???

But people also believe that God is all seeing, and if he knows exactly what is going to happen, and exactly what he's going to do, then he already
knew adam would have a wife and the need to procreate would be necessary.

that's where my issues with Christianity's so called "free will". Because God supposedly knows who will fall into sin and who will follow Him

some scholars theorise that if the original sin is something that affects all the generations of people forever after, then it has to be
sexually transmitted and therefore may be the result of wrongful mating - so was the original sin not an fruit from the forbidden tree, but
bestiality?

so we humans ARE the fruit of the forbidden tree, as in, - we are the offspring of a wrong mating - between Eve and a serpent perhaps.

Here is my take: we inherited sin from them through our DNA. We actually inherited shame. Once they committed an act against God - he then
removed the opportunity for them to learn the easy way. They then had to learn everything the hard way. At this point, immortality, or the option of
it, was taken away, and they were then going to suffer; cause and effect, choices vs. consequences.

Did God know this in advance? Well, he would of been a fool if he didn't! It was all part of a skillful divine plan or game to see how the lemmings
would react.

Am I cynical? You are d#@m right, I am! But still, it is the only game in town.

lets take this one step further - are we a genetic homework assignment of some alien schoolboy? perhaps a schoolboy form the Q continuum like
in Star Trek?

Brilliant! I always use that analogy of Q in reference to characters in heavenly congress. I really believe that the role he played in - Star Trek the
Next Generation, is a pretty accurate one. I don't apply that character to God but to Satan or whoever. He always acted like there is a game going on
up there!

I have thought along those lines a few times myself ..
I have brought this up before . ...I dont believe that Cain married a sister.
Scripture has no mention of Sisters until the very next verse AFTER Cain went away ....I have also brought up before ..How could there have already
been a City named NOD where Cain went if there was no one but Cain and Abel and Adam And Eve ? There has to be more to it than that ..I have come to
the conclusion that maybe fallen angels wandered about outside of that garden possibly in some kind of human form ...and Nod was a city they built and
lived in .....(Possibly the neanderthal maybe ?)

Anyway back to the penis subject ..so did yall figure anything out yet ?
Were testicles and sperm added on after the fall ? Or what ? LOL>

[edit on 6-11-2008 by Simplynoone]

i read that Cain and Abel went to the land of Canaan and found wives so there was a thriving civilisation there that was either created at the same
time as Adam and Eve or before that -so Adam and Eve are not the absolute first humans on Earth

Originally posted by Old Man
Yes. God already knew that He would create Eve, along with Adam.

"All His works are known to Him from the beginning."

and

"...."those that He predestined from the foundation of the world..."

.....obviously, these included female as well as male.

that implies that god set us up to fail too doesnt it?

I mean if I have a child I do not put something harmful in the same garden as my child plays in, and hope that my child will not harm himself

so god knew ahead of time that Adam and Eve would sin and in fact set them up to sin by having that tree in the garden of eden and god also knew that
he would have that front row seat to that kewl gory show called the cricifixion

Actually according to ancient history neither male or female had reproductive organs. We were considered vegetation in the garden of Eden.

They became embarrassed of their bodies because they were unaware of what bodies were. That is why most ancient art (paintings, drawings) show the
human anatomy with a leaf or flower covering the genitals. It is understood by many ancient historians that we didnt have genitals for a long time in
our evolution.

Originally posted by TheOracle
People should stop taking everything literally in the bible.
You see the Bible was written in a way people back then could understand. I will take for example the passage where God created man from mud.
Well obviously he didnt make a statue of mud but todays research show that elements necessary for life on earth came from mud.

i beg to differ and
shock horror - i am actually gonna give a new testament reference here - get ready to fall off your seats ladies and gentlemen

tadaaaaaa!!!

mark 4:11

11And he said to them, ‘To you has been given the secret* of the kingdom of God, but for those outside, everything comes in parables; 12in order
that
“they may indeed look, but not perceive,
and may indeed listen, but not understand;
so that they may not turn again and be forgiven.” ’

in other words - the bible is written for an initiate and not for us ordinary people. it is written in a way to make us think we understand what it
says but in fact it is misleading on purpose

and the final line is - that we are on purpose mislead so that we may not turn and be forgiven

and that is totally the opposite to what churches preach - all churches tell followers they will be saved and this text clearly says that the
followers should be confused so that they have no hope of being saved

The Bible could also be a horror story. Are you so sure that the "ancients" didn't know what they were doing/writing/saying???? If "they" had
written about interdimensional time traveling aliens instead of angels & demons would you be more apt to listen to their warnings? Nice to meet
someone who knows more than some of the most brilliant disciplined people who have ever walked this planet and who after studying Scripture found the
words to be true. BOO! The "aliens/demons" are right behind you.

i never did understand why god needed a messy and painful death of Jesus - surely he could have just waved his hand and forgiven that little ol thing
called the original sin - why did that messy crucifixion had to happen? does god thirst for blood? did god need a messy painful death because he needs
blood and suffering and gore to feed off?

God isnt bloodthirsty, and what happened to Jesus was a misunderstanding.

"Sin" translates to "mistake." The moral aspect of it is irrelevant.

God cant "forgive" us because God IS us, and the "mistake" runs throughout God. On every level.

A death does need to occur, but it needs to happen at the conceptual level of "Self" not physical "self."

Jesus, (and others) have understood a death needed to occur, but they mistook what that meant. He didnt have to physically die, he had to die to
himself.

This "death" needs to be real-ized, or made real, by an aspect or "child" of God, but thinking about it, and acting it out physically isnt enough,
which is why we are still in the same boat as when Jesus was here.

yeah but god KNEW it would happen before he created Adam and Eve - so why did god not create it so it could not happen - i just dont get it and all
the crap about free will does not explain this to me - why did god go ahead and create the world in this way when he knew it would happen this way -
seems to be some sadistic satisfaction on gods part - sorry to say
it just seems to me that god created this world to be like this because it would give a satisfying show for god to watch

I mean - if you have a child and you know that child will cause himself harm would you go ahead and make sure the circumstances were there to cause
maximum harm? bit heartless - even if the child did choose to do the wrong thing and harm himself - if you knew this would happen you are in fact
accessory to that

there fore god set us up - created us imperfect, created the circumstances by which we could fail for some sadistic pleasure for himself

Originally posted by MCoG1980
What if he was a clone or a genetic manipulation. Does say Eve was made from a rib doesn't it. For a moment imagine - they had the equivalent
knowlege of Genetic Modification as we do. Imagine if we did this in some desolate place. Placed an experiment. A testube man - you could tell him
anything you wanted and he would believe - even if you said you were god and created the world.

The Bible could also be a horror story. Are you so sure that the "ancients" didn't know what they were doing/writing/saying???? If "they" had
written about interdimensional time traveling aliens instead of angels & demons would you be more apt to listen to their warnings? Nice to meet
someone who knows more than some of the most brilliant disciplined people who have ever walked this planet and who after studying Scripture found the
words to be true. BOO! The "aliens/demons" are right behind you.

yup - i would agree with that too - deffinitely a horror story - very bloodthristy
lol

Funny though isn't it, that the story of garden of eden and Adam and Eve from Genesis (or is that Genetics??) I really am inclined to think we are
one huge scientific/social experiment.
Meaning of genesis (noun)
origin; beginning; creation

Originally posted by EndOfAmerica
Actually according to ancient history neither male or female had reproductive organs. We were considered vegetation in the garden of Eden.

They became embarrassed of their bodies because they were unaware of what bodies were. That is why most ancient art (paintings, drawings) show the
human anatomy with a leaf or flower covering the genitals. It is understood by many ancient historians that we didnt have genitals for a long time in
our evolution.

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