On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:34:52 GMT, "Marc" <mcnr(N_O-S_P_A_M)@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>I using the dependent precedent to track it down and there's nothing. How
>do I stop this? Delete the cell?
>
>Marc
>
What is the formula?
What is the contents of all the precedents of that formula?
--ron

If you have trouble finding the circular reference, maybe Stephen Bullen's
utility will help:
http://www.oaltd.co.uk/Excel/Default.htm
Look for FindCirc.zip
Marc wrote:
>
> I using the dependent precedent to track it down and there's nothing. How
> do I stop this? Delete the cell?
>
> Marc
--
Dave Peterson

CIRCULAR REFERENCE #3Hi .
How can I over come the problem of a circular reference on this typicaly
example;
in cell C1 I type the following formula =a1/b1 and in cell D1. I type
=b1*c1, why this create a circular reference?
Are there formulas in A1 or B1 that somehow reference back
to C1 or D1?
HTH
Jason
Atlanta, GA
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi .
>How can I over come the problem of a circular reference
on this typicaly
>example;
>in cell C1 I type the following formula =a1/b1 and in
cell D1. I type
>=b1*c1, why this create a circular reference?
>
>.
>
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clear circular reference fault?I have a worksheet with a number of circular references. I have
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Stop Circular Reference Help NoticesIs there a way to stop the Circular Reference Help to keep on popping up
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and I can correct them. But the help box is annoying me.
Help!!!
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Avoiding circular reference on formulaHi,
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What I am trying to do is to solve for what the Product
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Since it is both in the numerator and denomiator, I am
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Person ...

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I have run it and it works.
However it loops forever. Can I set it up so that it could save dat
from a certain number of iterations?
Thanks again Michae
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Hi Michael,
If you stayed within your thread and did not change the subject
Ken would see your reply as a reply to his reply and would see
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probably see your post highlighted in RED. Also someone other
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----- Jo...

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Data tables ? Circular references ?Hi,
If I setup a data table as follows:
A1=0
A2=0
A3=A1+A2
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Circular Reference will not solve #VALUE! or #DIV/0!The following will not solve (or start to solve?):
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I4=60.73
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I keep getting a "Circular Reference" error message but there is nothing in that cell.I using the dependent precedent to track it down and there's nothing. How
do I stop this? Delete the cell?
Marc
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:34:52 GMT, "Marc" <mcnr(N_O-S_P_A_M)@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>I using the dependent precedent to track it down and there's nothing. How
>do I stop this? Delete the cell?
>
>Marc
>
What is the formula?
What is the contents of all the precedents of that formula?
--ron
If you have trouble finding the circular reference, maybe Stephen Bullen's
utility will help:
http://www.oaltd.co.uk/Excel/Default.htm
Look for...

reference to circular reference bugI just discovered something that looks like a new excel bug:
to reproduce behaviour:
1. open a new workbook;
2. activate circular references;
3. enter those formulas:
B4 <- formula is =B5
B5 <- formula is =1+SE(B6;0;1)
B6 <- formala is =(B5=2)
B7 <- formula is =B5 (same as B4!!!)
(NB: SE() this is the standard IIF() function in the italian version
of excel;)
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contain the same formula. The result displayed depends on the position
of the cell conataining the formula: if it is on the left or above B5
the result...

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toolbar. Is there a way to turn this off? Maybe just notify me of the error
and if I click ok, show me the errors, if "ignore" no arrows?
thanks,
Office button - Excel options - formulas tab = check 'Enable iterative
calculation'
Mike
"Zack H" wrote:
> I know i have a circular reference and I am ok with it. In t...

Circular ReferenceI want to use a formula like the following:
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The reference to R7 to the false condition gives me a circular reference. I
expected this. What I want to do is leave the Cell unchanged if there is
something in it already (false condition).
How can I do this?
Thanks....
The FALSE condition of the IF Function is optional. Try:
=IF(P7=$O$4,IF(R7="",NOW()),"")
Hope this helps! If so, let me know, click "YES" below.
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Cheers,
Ryan
"Bruce A. Julseth" wrote:
> I w...

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