what do you guys think is the better subwoofer. i would use it mostly for music which i listen to almost everyday and movies that i watch once a week. im from the philippines and the brands most recommended arent available here like svs and hsu. or i have to pay astronomical delivery fees. of the subs i auditioned here, i cant seem to decide on the following:

or would it be better to get wharfedale sw-150(ported) cause it only costs 9000 pesos here. this sub won product of the year in whathifi. would the performance that i would get be negligible if i opt for the higher models listed above? or would i be dissappointed in the long run if i get the wharfe sw-150.

Hmm, I haven't heard any of those subs. Closest thing I've had is a Klipsch ksw12. I've heard some good things about the Velodyne CHT. Last week, however, I went to a store where they had a Velodyne SPL 1000 II playing and I didn't like it at all. Sounded sloppy and loose. I didn't spend much time in the room and didn't look to see how it was set up. Maybe the sales guy didn't know what he was doing.

From what I've read, sealed subs are supposed to perform better for music. It's purely subjective, but I'm sure there are differences in sound between ported and sealed subs. The Velodyne I heard was sealed, but sounded nasty. May not be the subs fault but the sales guy.

Wharfedales seem to be gaining momentum in the bang for your buck products. Looks good for the price, but again, I haven't heard one.

The majority of music doesn't go below 34Hz (this directly from Hsu), unless you are a pipe organ fan. So all these subs look like they can suit your purpose. I'm sorry I can't be much more help. Hopefully someone else has some direct experience.

Have you considered a DIY sub. Its easy to beat the performance of any mass market sub. Parts Express are a good place to buy from and ship internationally and there's lots of helpful advice available at the Home Theater Forum:DIY section. I've built a ported 12" Dayton DVC but for music a sealed 15" Tempest or Titanic would be magnificent.

I have Velodyne CHT 12 and CHT 8. I auditioned everything that was locally available and Velodyne beat them easily in terms of price to performance. This includes, Klipsch, Polk Audio, Infinity, Sony, JBL. KLH. Yamaha and several other brands I can't remember. I remain extremely pleased with both of them. I can't comment on the other brands you mention in your post because I haven't heard them. At this point, my general take on Velodyne subs is that other companies like Hsu and SVS (and maybe others that aren't available to you) are probably providing a better product at the low end of the price range but a Velodyne sub is still a high quality sub from a company that essentially specializes in subwoofers so you can't really go wrong with it.

I just returned for a weekend trip. Listening in the other room while my son was watching a dvd, I thought to myself that something didn't sound right. I finally went in and watched some Phantom Of The Opera. Then I remembered that I had turned off the sub. What a difference!!. Get the sub.

Ya, that happens here when one of the roomies powers up the system and does not turn on the BFD, only takes a few minutes for me to tell. I need to work on a way for the BFD to use the Halo trigger system.

But yes, I as well recommend at least one sub even with just a stereo mode.