> Maybe "coffee.price" (coffee has a price) example will allow me to> rephrase my original objection wit more clarity. "Dot" can signify any "to> one" relationship in my opinion. Adding connotations like "contains" or> "belongs to" or even "has" can be placed on particular uses of the dot, but> dot in general is best left free of those.>> Joe N>

I don't mind your wanting to keep "the dot" free of too much connotation initself.

You're like saying: don't let the OOP campers take total control of "dot"connotations. I'm OK with that.

For us, the OOP campers, there's a hierarchy of containment, such that"dot" obeys an algorithm.

"If I'm not in you, I'll search your parent, and if not in your parent,I'll search your ancestors" -- there's a widening radius, a search pattern.

Lawyers might understand: "if you can't pay the debt, maybe your sponsorcan" and so on, up the line (looking for deep pockets).

The positive angle: you, the new object, are free to inherit most of yourfunctionality and just need to specialize in these few ways.

That's a power of this notation: to assume predecessors.

Again: STEM fluency is the issue. If you haven't been exposed to dotnotation, that means 12 years of high school with no dissection of anin-your-face web browser. Madness. Means you're not aware of yourimmediate environment. Means your school is a joke.

To put it more concretely, if you use a web browser and yet your school hasno courses that help you learn JavaScript, then stay home and learn forreal, as if your future depends on it.

If your school offers no help with learning say JavaScript, then I'd say:

"Your school is not really your friend, and is mainly day care for adults(i.e. "the teachers"), you the victim, the guinea pigs.

If your school is really so lax as to be devoid of dot notation in general,just don't go, fight instead"

-- that's my Silicon Forest mesage of the day (MOTD).

Paul should like my message as I'm not telling the misbehaving to mess withhis classroom experience. I'm advising them to stay home. No dotnotation? They're wasting your days. Join us. The cities have hungrypeople. We are part of the solution.