Count your northern blessings

Amid all the political moaning, its a relief to find one northern member of the younger generation whos not downcast with life. But even here, theres a catch

Northerners have had the distinct advantage or disadvantage, whatever way you might perceive it, of being under a separate state of economic governance, which has allowed us to escape the same economic depression that has forced many in the South of the country to escape to warmer climes with the increased promise of work and a sunnier outlook on life…

I think that the most frightening situation for those under the governance of Stormont is the day when Sammy Wilson, or some other like-minded politician, gets a hold of the purse strings completely. The longer such powers remain in Westminster, the better.

“He is also a Gaelic Games analyst for TG4 and a regular contributor to BBC Radio Ulster”

Looks like Conall, the teacher, and Sammy, the politician, are multi-jobbers who earn their crust from the public purse 😉

Dave

Yes, long may you live on your knees as beggars and parasites to a nation more prosperous than yourselves, and may you never blush or feel shame but always maintain a cheerful disposition. 😉

Scaramoosh

Simply giving credence to the notion, that the best solution to an intractable problem is paralysed stasis.

We have played out to a stalemate; how exciting is that (oh, but, and yes, no people are getting killed (sic).). They don’t get what they want; we don’t get what we want, and they way we are all so much happier, not least, as we do not have to confront the notion that one day we may have to leave the cul de sac that is our mindset.

Garza

Dave if that is the case then Scotland and Wales are also beggars. And the rest of the ROI are beggars to Dublin.

Greenflag

scaramoosh ,

‘Simply giving credence to the notion, that the best solution to an intractable problem is paralysed stasis.’

Some day they may come to believe that leaving the cul de sac is not only possible but desirable . Until that day carry on inertia .

Dave

Garza, not at all. You are confusing counties with countries. Ireland’s counties do not contain seperate nations, so there is no equivalence with the UK, where lesser the nations are dependent for their welfare on the prosperity of a greater nation. Admittedly, that dependency is a result of subjugation by the nation that controls them but that is beside the point.

To be dependent on a foreign nation for your welfare and your government and being unwilling as a nation to take control of your own affairs and your own destiny is deeply shameful – however you spin it to yourself or others.

Kentron

Perhaps it’s the subjugation of other nations which is “deeply shameful”.

Greenflag

‘and being unwilling as a nation to take control of your own affairs and your own destiny is deeply shameful’

Then there are a lot of deeply shameful nations out there .

We can start with the ‘fully sovereign ‘ deeply shameful USA which is in hock to the tune of 2 trillion dollars to the Chinese ‘authoritarian ‘ capitalists (formerly communists) on whose investment decisions the future of the american dollar will be determined . We can then move on to the formerly deeply sovereign and unashamed Icelanders who believed the neo con dream to such an extent that they are now lining up to be allowed to join the Eurozone . And then there is the ‘uniquely’ sovereign North Korea where ‘deep shame ‘ is not felt at the size of their armed forces but deep pride instead and no shame at all at all is felt for the stunted millions of North Korean children who average 3 inches shorter than their South Korean counterparts . The South Koreans are of course not deeply ashamed at depending on American military support .

I could carry on for another 150 countries plus but time disallows as my plane leaves in 4 hours.

In case you haven’t noticed Dave it’s 2009 and not 1848. There are not too many if any at all ‘nations ‘ who desire to be so deeply unshameful as say Israel where they are so in control of their own defence that they turn away all offers of American military aid . .

Wake up Dave and take off the blinkers !!

Barnshee

“Yes, long may you live on your knees as beggars and parasites to a nation more prosperous than yourselves, and may you never blush or feel shame but always maintain a cheerful disposition.”

Passport says “british citizen” am member of the british nation- no need for knees- mind you a poke in the eye might help you clear your vision

Dave

Barnshee, British nationality is a legal invention by which nations can be united under a common nationalism and under a sovereign state. It consists of other nations and their colonised states. The nation in control of the enterprise is the English nation. The minor nations within the UK (Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irish) were subjugated into that enterprise by the English nation and can be ejected from it at its discretion. Those minor nations do not have the reciprocal power to eject the English nation, so they can be safely classed as equals while having no danger of equal power with the major nation. Those minor nations choose to hang in there because none of them are capable of self-sufficiency, mentally or financially. They are dependent beggars even if they think of themselves as otherwise.

Greenflag, while 2 trillion sounds like a big number, America’s debt as a percentage of its GDP is inconsequential. On the other hand, Ireland’s external debt increased from just 11 billion punts before joining the eurozone to 1.67 trillion euros less than 10 years after joining it. Ireland’s debt as a percentage of its GDP is circa 1200% – far from inconsequential. If it did not transfer sovereignty in that area to the EU, it’s debt would be non-existent and its economy still booming. Icelanders do not want to join the EU. Check the polls. What good would it do them to give away the fishing rights in their territorial waters to the EU? They no doubt can look at the moronic Irish and see that they gave away 200 billion worth of fishing stock to the EU (and continue to give away 6 billion every year) while getting 25 billion in grants during the same period (most of which went to the famers – another industry decimated by EU membership and paid for by the consumers who are forced to pay the higher foods prices that fund the EU’s subsidies).

Now I’m sorry that you think that sovereignty stunts your growth by an average of 3 inches, but I did warn you to stop reading Europhile propaganda.

borderline

Dave,

Northern Ireland might be a nation in your Dublin book of nations, but it ain’t one in mine.