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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

Peace In Our Times With The Palestinians? What Are The Odds?

Nadene Goldfoot

Vice President Pence is trying again for the umpteenth time to expect to bring a peace deal about with Palestinians and Israelis. My reaction is that we are beating the horse to death by not realizing that the Arabs are not of the mindset to want peace.

Seventy-Six years ago, my neighbor, Mimi Padow, told her daughter and I about how her family had owned an orange orchard in "Palestine" and the Arabs worked for them and were peaceful. She had playmates to play with from the Arab workers. Then came 1929, the Crash in America, and Palestine was affected as well, but in a different way. The Arab Sherif of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, also called the Grand Mufti, feared he was about to lose his powers awarded to him by the British Jew from the League of Nations, and he caused riots of Arabs attacking Jews there and in other towns. The British had occupied Jerusalem in December 1917 with General Allenby at the head. Husseini had also instigated riots in 1922 because the British now held the mandate for 30 years and were going to allow Jews to enter. By 1946 the population was 165,000 of whom 100,000 were Jews. Arabs didn't want Palestine to become the Jewish Homeland.

This went on and changed the calm attitude of the Arabs so much that Dr Padrow, a dentist and pharmacist, packed up his wife Mimi, and they headed to the United States. Mimi had been born in Tel Aviv, founded in 1909 as the suburb of Jaffa. 1948 came about with Israel being formed out of a small piece of Palestine, when all of Palestine had been planned through the League of Nations to be the Homeland for the Jews, people who had waited over 2,000 years to regain their homeland, homeless themselves for that length of time. They had lived in many countries, thinking they had had a home and were part of it, only to be expulsed over and over again because they weren't Christians and were becoming successful.

At first Jews were able to enter the land that was held by the British until they became wise about the oil found in places like Saudi Arabia and realized that England needed oil more and more for cars that were developing rapidly. Suddenly, as WWII approached, Jews were kept from entering while Arabs were allowed and were coming through with the British blessing, illegally or not.

Khaled Meshal, head Hamas terrorist and government leader, wants EU to release them from the terrorist list.He doesn't want to give up his terrorism acts, though.

Peace with the Arabs? It sounds easy, doesn't it? Who wouldn't want peace? The Israelis certainly do. They haven't experienced peace in their time since the creation of Israel May 14, 1948.

Ever since that day, the Palestinian Arabs have been tools used by their leaders, who have wanted the land because the Jews have it. Their coveting leaders saw to it that these Arabs were to live in refugee camps in order to gain sympathy from the rest of the world. There were Arab families who weren't duped by these leaders and who remained. They're the Arab citizens of today, 20% of the population. Let it be understood. Israel is not just a state for all. It was created for the purpose of being the Jewish Homeland. It's the only state in the world that is a refuge for Jews in a world of Gentiles. That balance is not to be changed as happened in Lebanon. That was once a refuge for Christians, ruled by Christians who were slaughtered and have been taken over by the terrorists for many years now.

Take 25 year old Palestinian parents with a year old child in 1948. That baby today is 70 years old. The 25 year olds were born in 1923, and have long died Their descendants have been educated with a historical fiction of a past made with stories of an ownership of land that never existed. There never was a country of Palestine that was lost to the West. It was land, originally mostly ancient Israel, taken originally by Roman soldiers who had burned the 2nd Temple down and had taken Jerusalem. Then later in 132, they named the land Palestine. It has been occupied by a number of Middle East Caliphates through the ages, but never had become a country of its own It was in dire shape by the 1920's, swampy-filled and turned to desert, weeds and mosquitoes living there with marauding Bedouins racing through on their donkeys or camels on the way to somewhere else. Poor Jews lived there, many depending on aid from fellow Jews in their temporary homes. Turkish soldiers patrolled, keeping order and taking baksheesh. It was the pits, as far as other Arabs were concerned, the dregs of land no one wanted to be sent to, the Siberia of the Middle East.

Arabs were not interested in becoming responsible for creating a country UNTIL the Jews wanted it back and received it. That old commandment of "Thou shall not covet your neighbors things" never fell on these Arabs' ears. Instead, Thou Shall covet your neighbor's land had become the law of the land and all Arabs seemed to follow this opposing belief. One by one, leading countries came from all corners of the Middle East, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Turkey it was as the Ottoman Empire for the last 400 years occupied the land until they miscalculated by joining Germany in WWI.

The Palestinian Arabs are the mixture of many people who can never be peaceful because they haven't been so ever since their creation which was AFTER Israel's birth. Before that, they told people they were Syrians.

In my opinion, they have become the closest you can get to find living robots. That's because they have been programmed to have one goal in life, to take ALL of Israel and to kill Jews. No other goal has mattered. They have been told no other teaching other than their religion of Islam. Many Arab countries have been sending them vast amounts of money. The United States has been doing this, and they haven't used it for the basic needs of anything, even of electricity. It's been Israel who supplies the electricity and they've never paid their bill for it. They are not using it to better the life of their people. Do that and they'll forget to hate Jews!

No, they've used the money to buy weapons and the raw materials to make them with as well as to dig walkable tunnels in which to attack Israelis from.

Oslo Accords September 13, 1993 signed

There have been moments when the West thought they held peace in the palm of their hand. When Bill Clinton was president from 1993 to 2001, Arafat made out like he wanted peace, but it never came about. He even was awarded a peace prize along with Clinton and Rabin, but it was given out without testing the waters. They should have waited to see if it would hold more than a week.

"In August 1993, the delegations had reached an agreement, which was signed in secrecy by Peres while visiting Oslo. In the Letters of Mutual Recognition, the PLO acknowledged the State of Israel and pledged to reject violence, and Israel recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and as partner in negotiations. Yasser Arafat was allowed to return to the Occupied Palestinian Territories. In 1995, the Oslo I Accord was followed by Oslo II. Neither promised Palestinian statehood." And on and on. Nothing has been reached except attacks on Israel with Israel being forced to retaliate. It's worse than the shape we're in today with Democrats and Republicans. We're only dividing more and more with all sorts of tricks being played in the disappointment of today's president for the other side. Hatred has developed far more than understanding and patience. These same people cannot get their act together to get along and they expect the Palestinians and Arabs to make peace today! At least Pence has a better realistic awareness of the problem than previous people.

Bill Clinton and aide, Monica Lewinsky

Maybe we've all been programmed in our genes to see two sides of a coin, to see the glass being half filled or half empty The trick of civilization is to be aware of 2 opinions and live with it anyway in the best possible ways. We're still emotionally in the stone age in an era of being capable of inter-universe travel. Technically we're brilliant, while our men are still sexually ready to grab women by the hair and drag them into their dens.

Iran's atomic threat to Israel with former presidentAhmadinejad the most outspokenyet the time becomes closer to their capabilities

La dee da. I wonder if other planets are having the same problems? Well, we've reached a point of being able to destroy ours. This is the time for the Moshiach to arrive, isn't it? Life is getting out of our hands.

We're not living up to our requirements as people on this earth. I think the biggest shock to me is that there were men on earth a few thousand years ago who were prophets telling others that this very point in time would happen. Gee whiz! That's more mind-blowing than flying to the moon! The 2nd shock is that all 3 major religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam also believe this, but with their own versions, of course. Yet they still continue on as nutty as ever. Talk about stubbornness!

The Hamas Covenant or Hamas Charter, formally known in English as the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement, was originally issued on 18 August 1988 and outlines the founding identity, stand, and aims of Hamas (the Islamic Resistance Movement).A new charter was issued by Hamas leader Khaled Mashal on 1 May 2017 in Doha.

Hamas reenactment of kidnapping Israeli soldiers

The 2017 charter accepted for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state within the borders that existed before 1967 and rejects recognition of Israel which it terms as the "Zionist enemy". It advocates such a state as transitional but also advocates "liberation of all of Palestine". The new document also states that the group doesn't seek war with the Jewish people but only against Zionism which it holds responsible for "occupation of Palestine".Mashal also stated that Hamas was ending its association with the Muslim Brotherhood.That's nothing. Mashal and Abbas can't even get along for any long period It's an off and on relationship at best. This seems to be typical. The Middle East is a very competitive land, even more than Europe was. What does Pence think of the new Hamas Charter? Resource: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_I_Accord https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

"PA President Mahmoud Abbas, 82, the president of the Palestinian Authority, addressed the PLO's Central Council on Jan. 14. Over two rambling hours, he deployed anti-Semitic tropes, undercut the Jewish connection to Israel, and blamed everyone from Oliver Cromwell to Napoleon to Winston Churchill for Israel's creation. He repeatedly cursed President Donald Trump ("may your house fall into ruin"); he has also said he will boycott Vice President Mike Pence's upcoming visit. He issued indirect rebukes of Arab leaders after days of reportedly confrontational meetings with other Gulf officials." and more

About Me

I'm the American Nadene Goldfoot. Another lives in England. I'm the one who went to Israel and lived there from 1980 to the end of 1985. I'm an amateur genealogist for our family who also has expanded interests into dna. I now spend my time writing in my 3 blogs teaching about Israel and defending her position.

On my tree I have found Rabbi Samson Wertheimer, RASHI, and King David through DNA testing. Another branch holds the kings and queens of England by genealogy. When current events become deplorable, I turn to this hobby for a lift. It's all whetted my appetite for ancient history of Israel.