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Wednesday, February 12, 2014

Without probably meaning to do so John Travolta made Scientology seem even more creepy and desperate to keep their secrets secret. In an interview with The Telegraph John Travolta was asked how he got involved with Scientology and he tells a story about how a co-star was involved with the group and he performed an assist. It sounds more like what Travolta likes doing to masseurs, but whatever. Travolta said he wasn't feeling well and then after the assist from the guy started feeling better almost immediately. It's great that he now wants to assist so many others.

Surprisingly that is not even the creepy part of the interview. Remember after the death of his son Jett how there were lots of stories published that said Travolta was thinking of breaking from the organization because of its beliefs. Well, I'm guessing that many of those reports were probably true based on this quote from John.

"They were with me every day after Jett died. They even traveled with me when I needed to get away. And for a solid two years it was like that. It was only in the second year that I started to take a break of a day or two just to see how I was doing on my own."

So, umm his son died and they stuck to him like glue for two years. No matter where he went or what he did someone was there for two years. He had no time alone until the second year and then only for a day or two? Sounds more like a prison pass than helping him heal.

That is beyond creepy, but as time goes on, I have less sympathy for him. He's a grown ass man, and if he wants out, he should just leave. At this point, everyone knows about their smear tactics, and really, who cares?

They brainwashed him into believing they were there as his support system. He said he started taking a day or two "just to see how I was doing on my own". He probably actually believed they were letting him take a break and not having him monitored at all times.

I was thinking the other day about Philip Seymour Hoffman and his role in The Master. If you've ever seen it, it's obviously loosely based on $cio and LRH (PSH's role). When I saw it, I couldn't believe $cio let it get made - I thought their hooks were deeper into Hollywood than that. Fast forward less than two years after its release date and one year after tons of Oscar and GG nominations, and PSH is suddenly relapsing after 23 years of sobriety.

It's probably a coincidence, but these are the people who broke into the IRS offices and stole records, planted employees in bureaucracy, and conducted a clandestine operation called "Operation Snow White" to try and erase all negative governmental files about them. Stranger things have happened.

It is very sad. But why did this happen? Why is John Travolta so into this place? I looked up their philosophy, and while it is beautiful in theory, the rituals they use are weird. It is a direct violation of the balance of the sacred and profane- something isn't matching up.

Paul Haggis is alive and well so far. He is hosting a party Oscar week.

The whole thing about COS is mind control and they get you to reveal your deepest darkest secrets on video and audiotape so they can blackmail you into submission if you are terrified about what you are hiding going public.

I still think this particular side of John Travolta is heartbreaking. I can't imagine losing a child and your world crashes around you. Im sure he was questioning everything about life. Of course they stuck to him like glue. Brainwashing him more and getting him deeper into the myth. Fucking assholes is what they are! I have no respect for those that take advantage of people in their weakest moments. That's all this cult does. For shame.

I always laugh because the story is Hubbard created this "religion" as a joke, he was a science fiction writer back in the 1950s and he and some other writers had a bet as to who could create the best fictional religion. That is pretty clear when you get into billion years contracts for the Sea Org and Zenu craziness. I think Hubbard was always a bit of shyster/con man and he took it and ran with it. The appeal is that the basic philosophy can help you be more productive in life the problem is COS is a money hungry machine and like other religions they are going to do whatever it takes to keep you in line and keep you in the organization esp if they want your money and in the case of the celebrity members they do not want to lose any of them because they are bait.

One of the NY Times articles on COS I think talked about how Tom Cruise has drifted from the church and certain members were tasked to bring him back in and now they are grooming him to be one of the leaders.

The whole fresking thing is a scam, and i just cant wrap my head around why anyone would listen to these whack jobs. I read people trying to get out, and sometimes they hit them with, well you promised a million years. And the cultee goes oh yeah, now i cant leave. Jesus christ!! Its all bullshit!!!!! Just leave ! You dont owe them shit; if anything, they owe you!!

I recommend reading Jenna Miscavige's book. She gives a first hand account as an insider who was raised in COS (uncle is David Miscavige). It made me understand the hold that the church has over them and why they believe these things that make no sense.

LRH was definitely a con man, but in later years seemed to become paranoid and genuinely nuts.

Just wanted to echo the Agent**It love. Also missing my other old faves Amber & DiaPapaya who seemed to disappear as well. :(Other favorite commentors have taken to barely posting (LotaColada, Libby, JSierra) and it's just not the same! Pretty sad when we are relying on the K-trolls for comedy relief around here! COME BACK BETCHES! We miss your guesses & fun comments!

John's son Jett had seizures and needed meds. 2 prevent them and cos. Said it was against religion 2 medicate children. That's how he died. .. seizure. . That's why they never left him alone for 2 years. It's john's own fault for putting religion above medicine.

Kirsty, during her cocain days, entered a Narconon facility and they got their hooks into her there. That's how they recruit many of their followers....through their "drug treatment" centers. Once there, addicts are given mega doses of vitamins washed down with Niacin then forced to take hours long saunas. It's is crazy. Have they helped people kick drugs and booze, some - yes. Are their numbers what they attest to? not even close.

His son was autistic and COS have a very twisted view on autism. The guy looking after Jett at the time wasn't a trainee nanny but you've guessed it- a member of COS and if I remember correctly was the guy John was photographed kissing on the lips at an airport. So his autistic son was being looked after not by a nurse or trained child minder but by a member of COS untrained medically and socially who he kisses on the lips. Course they were stuck to him. Oh and the rumour I heard was that he is gay and that COS 'cured' him with auditing. Then he is caught in his own lie and what they know

Wasn't this during the period Travolta was trying to leave? There were many rumors of him leaving Scieno due to the way Jet was treated. It's all just very sad and Hubbard sucked as a writer, but was a true conman.

Scientology = religion only in the broadest definition; COS rec'd tax exempt, 501c-whatever exemption after papering IRS w/ years of litigation, a favored COS tactic to achieve its desired goals. By comparison, IRS is the perceived underdog in that battle, which is a pretty hi/lo achievement in itself! LRH was an extreme narcissist/con man-charmer, who was a Howard Hughes-like speed-freak/recluse in his later years, protected by a coterie of self-interested yes-men. His heir, David Miscavige, born/raised/tunnel visioned to Scientology precepts, has taken his authority to the extreme, ruling over his minions with a ham-handed iron fist, and behaving like Emporer Nero. He's batshit wacko. NYTimes reporter Janet Reitman's EXCELLENT book, "Inside Scientology" is the definitive, exhaustively researched document on the rise of LRH, the CoS, and the the current fear-based Pyongyang-like organization that is really just an extremely well-organized cash drain on its lemming-like followers...Jus' sayin'...

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