To Three Or Not To Three

This may be too personal a question, but how did you decide to go from two kids to three kids? My husband and I are lucky enough to have two great kids, a boy and a girl ages 4 years and 2 years, respectively. We both work full time and have long commutes. I never sleep and feel like I don’t get to spend enough time with the kids I have now. So why do I kind of secretly want another baby? My husband is in the “maybe” camp. But how do people make the decision to try again? Yes, yes, I know people say “it will just feel right!” and “you’ll just know!” but I don’t know and I feel all conflicted! I want something more concrete, like a nice decision tree I could fill out. Or for you to tell me how you decided. Please and thank you!!!

I’m sorry to let you down here, because I have no handy-dandy decision tree PDF to upload or checklist to link to. There was nothing concrete about our decision to have another baby. It was simply a small, nagging feeling that we just weren’t “done.” We didn’t have that feeling of “completeness” you hear people talk about. But we also didn’t really have that feeling of “you’ll just know when it’s right!” either.

Because we were completely happy with our family as-is, with just two kids. And there were plenty of logical reasons why our family should remain that size: Our oldest has special needs that can be both emotionally and financially draining, my career was growing more time-consuming and demanding (in a good way!), our house only has three bedrooms, two of which are quite tiny and not great for sharing long-term. We’re already drowning in toys and bikes and gear and can’t open the front door without smacking it into a stroller/scooter/small child. We live in a stupid-expensive area and can’t afford a bigger house without switching counties, most likely. I already feel like we’re basically spending our children’s future college tuitions on childcare and preschool and groceries and etc., so having ANOTHER baby would be…well, probably kind of crazy.

But. Still. The topic kept coming up enough. I asked Jason about that vasectomy we’d always planned on and we both agreed — even though we were jointly ambivalent about baby #3 — that it didn’t feel right, and wasn’t something either of us wanted quite yet. Finally, I said that the fact that we were repeatedly discussing the vague, squishy idea of “maybe” having another baby was probably a sign that if we DIDN’T at least TRY for one more, we would regret it later on.

(And here I admit I’m colored by my mother’s experience — she had a tubal the day I was born and has always deeply, deeply regretted not having another baby. That’s not a regret I wanted to live with, if at all possible.)

But the thought of actively “trying” for a third baby would bring up all the Perfectly Logical Reasons why it was a silly, crazy idea, so then we…didn’t. We didn’t actively prevent anything, but because I have a history of annovulation and crazy irregular cycles, it felt (at least in my mind) like we still weren’t “really trying” and a third baby was unlikely to just “happen” without my usual routine of charting and monitoring for months on end. We were in a no man’s land of indecision, where every month my period was greeted with a weird mixture of “OH DARN” and “WHEW THAT’S KIND OF A RELIEF.”

You see where this is going, right? By the time Jason finally up and said the words, “Yes. I want another baby. Let’s have another baby.” to me…I was already two weeks pregnant with Ike. We didn’t know it, of course, but I was. When I missed my period I just laughed it off — it was SO LIKE my ovaries to decide to go AWOL the second we decided to try, you know? Plus my father had just been diagnosed with the leukemia that would eventually take him from us, so: I’m stressed. That’s why I’m run down and not sleeping and feeling kind of…off. When I started throwing up I blamed it on another bug brought home from preschool. When I finally took a test I stared at the two lines and started laughing hysterically. When I presented that same test to Jason to tell him the news, it took me 20 minutes to convince him that I wasn’t kidding.

So…that’s how we got here. Three kids. Two more than we ever thought we’d have, honestly. One more than I guess you can say we officially, on-the-record 100% decided to definitely have before conceiving him. But not really, because we really did want a third baby but were just skittish about…you know, going ahead and having that third baby, because of all the Why Nots and What Ifs and What Are You Thinkings?

I won’t lie — a lot of those doubts and conflicted feelings hung around during my pregnancy. I would be over-the-moon thrilled one minute and then paralyzed with WHAT HAVE WE DONE?-type thoughts the next. I’d be neck-deep in the bedtime theatrics with the older two, while the last shreds of my patience oozed out of my skull, and be seized with UTTER TERROR at the thought of adding another small, defiant, thrashing body into this mix. And then I’d feel so GUILTY about thinking those things about my poor little fetus and lather, rinse, repeat.

And then Ike was born. And in those first few glorious moments when I listened to his cries for the first time, I burst into tears myself and started babbling a stream of gibberish about how oh my God, it’s HIM. It’s HIM. He’s IT. He’s EXACTLY IT.

He was all of five seconds old — I hadn’t even held him or seen his face yet — but I already couldn’t imagine my life, my family, without him.

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I am 40 weeks pregnant with my third right now – as in, my due date is today and HURRY UP AND COME OUT BABY. My two boys are 6 and almost 4. We had the same circular round-and-round discussions about whether or not we wanted a third… and I was the one who was bound & determined I did not, thank you very much. Hence the longer gap between 2 and 3 than there was between 1 and 2.

I don’t think there was ever a moment where my husband and I both said at the same time “we definitely want another baby”. We just kind of went for it. We had no trouble conceiving the first two, so we assumed it would be the same this time… and then it took a few months and every month that I wasn’t pregnant solidified our decision a bit further.

One thing I will warn you about now – if you do decide to go for a third, prepare yourself now for Captain Judgypants McAssvice to follow you around for the entire pregnancy. People – both extended family AND total strangers – are not unreservedly happy for couples that decide to cross from two to three. And they positively delight in telling you horror stories about how they knew someone that did that, and it ruined their lives, and beavers gnawed down their house, etc. etc. Don’t listen to ’em. Good luck with your decision, whatever it is!

I’m 9.5 weeks pregnant in my third pregnancy now and while it wasn’t purposeful (actually actively prevented with an IUD), I fell in love with these two from the first moment I saw them.

That said, I wasn’t sure that we would have another. I wanted to and my husband was strongly in the let’s consider it camp, but my last pregnancy was stressful. I was pregnant with twins and one was stillborn. It also included six weeks of hospital bedrest and 53 days of NICU time, so I think we were rationally a bit hesitant.
Assuming these two make it, we will have four living kids and I have a strong suspicion that we will both know that we are done.

Ally

We are in the SAME spot right now, except it’s baby number 4 we are considering. I love having three, but I don’t feel done. I don’t think I’ll ever feel done though. My husband and I constantly battle this. We feel stressed and overwhelmed with three, but yet we still kind of want one more. Is that responsible???

Liz

Ally, thats funny cause I too have 3 (ages 6,5 & 3) and at first, right after i had my last one, i thought i was done. here i am 3 yrs later wanting another. my house is super crazy with my 2 oldest boys constantly fighting and playing with loud toys while my daughter the youngest is super quiet playing with her dolls. not to mention, me and my husband work full time and never get time to our selves, so i see what your saying. i just always think of the future my kids growing up close in age. we’re PTC sometime this summer. super excited!

Dear Amy,
Can you please write a column about how life is with three? What is it like to be outnumbered? Was it harder than the transition from 1 to 2? What are the best parts? Is it really that much more expensive? Tell me more. Tell me more.

XOXO, jL

Procrastamom

Here’s to Moms and Dads of three!! (or more). Here’s to parents who instinctively do a headcount everywhere they travel. Here’s to having a mini heart attack every time you’re in a semi-crowded public space and you haven’t spied Child X in the last 30 seconds.

…and we didn’t make any decisions or fill out any decision trees or pro/con lists. We just kept getting pregnant and couldn’t figure out how. Turned out to be Sex, but before we got that diagnosis we were truly baffled.

Zoë

Immediately after giving birth to #2, I thought to myself, “we have to do this again”, and it was just a matter of when. When I did get pregnant, the first time I saw that little bean on the u/s, I was in love. Of course, throughout the pregnancy (and even after she was born), I did have moments where I wondered what the hell we had done as we were just getting to where two kids were manageable (no diapers, actual conversations), but I always knew she was the missing piece of our family puzzle. And even though I miss newborn snuggles, and rubbing newborn fuzzy heads, I never did get that “we have to do this again” feeling. Now at 7, 4, and 16 months, my kids are the coolest people I know, and we are getting into a groove as a family. It was so worth those chaotic first few months.

That is it. I’m having more babies. That last paragraph did me in.Even though I love babies with all my heart, I was so convinced that my two very little ones were so challenging, I’m just not sure I can handle a third. And wouldn’t it be nice to be able to stick a fork in us and call us done? But I’m not! We’re not! I don’t know how (or when) we’ll do it…but you just made my husband’s day, even if he doesn’t know it yet.

PinkieBling

I always find it so weird to hear that people are given a hard time over having a third child. I live in Utah, where three is seen as totally normal, if not a bit underachieving. Five or six kids per family is common here, and people don’t really bat an eye until the kid count is in the double digits. Oh yes, that happens!! My friend married one of FOURTEEN.

Holly

I was so sure I’d be done after two, but now that our beautiful second daughter is here, I find myself dreaming of a third. It might not be practical, but the desire is there. We’ll have to see what happens!

ps Amalah, I think you need to update your “About the Author” paragraph because it only mentions your first two boys!

Babs

We did this with the current pregnancy, but it’s #5. We were so happy as a family of 6, and our 4 are so freaking perfect it never crossed our minds another little one would add anything to the mix. Still, starting last spring there was a sense of wanting to share all this with someone else. It was like there was someone missing in our lives, and we just couldn’t really look at the awesome kids we have and say, “Gee, we don’t want any more of these guys around.”

#3 was the scariest leap though. #3 was the time you go from being in control to not knowing what is going to happen to your happy family of 4. For us, it was a pleasant, if exhausting, surprise. In the end, if you accept it will be harder and more wonderful than you ever thought it could be, you’ll be all right.

Laura

I’m currently expecting my third child, I have two girls 3 1/2 and 14 months. This pregnancy was a complete surprise, I always knew I wanted a third but three kids under four was not in my plan. I’m 15 weeks now and gradually getting used to the idea of the joys and challenges that lie ahead. My youngest child has been very high needs and parenting her has been emotionally and physically exhausting, leaving me doubting if I can go through this all over again.
Amy, your last two paragraphs had me sobbing because I know that’s what I’ll feel when this child is born and all these worries will seem so small. Thank you for confirming that for me. It was just what I needed.

Heidi T

I love this post! I am 30 weeks pregnant with #3. My older two are 8 and 6, so you can see it took a while for us to make this decision. We always said 3 was our magic number. We had #1 and she was an angel – great baby, great kid. It was an easy decision when she was 18 months to try for #2. #2 was a handful. He was a great baby, but 18 months to 3 were a tough ride. He was the kid who wanted to scratch your kid’s eye out. He wanted to run away from us and never look back. Trouble with a capital T. Around 3, the demons started releasing him and brought back our sweet boy, but by then, it was 2008 and the economy was in the toilet and our jobs were uncertain and my husband was driving an hour away each day so we couldn’t make the jump. Fast forward 3 years later. My hubby got a job 5 min from home with great benefits and time off. I am freelancing and working out of our house. We decided that this was the year we would try. BUT… we couldn’t make the jump. We just couldn’t. In May, I broke my pinky by pulling out a chair and what followed the next 3 months was X-rays, the diagnosis of a benign tumor in the bone of the pinky, healing, surgery and more healing. I missed my cycle in June, but figured it was because I was mired in everything that was going on. I had surgery the first week of July and had an HCG blood test the day of surgery that was negative. I again missed my period in July but since I had that negative test first week of July, I KNEW I wasn’t pregnant, so figured I would wait until my surgery was healed and then go to the OB GYN and check everything out because obviously the stress was really affecting my previously extremely regular cycles. In mid August, before my next cycle would be due, I decided on a whim to take a test and got a positive. We were happy, of course, but thought that we were maybe 4 weeks pregnant due to the negative preg test on the day of the surgery. I went the next week to the doctor and then the day after for an ultrasound. The next day, the doc called me and told me I was 9weeks 3 days pregnant!!! I had actually gotten pregnant about a week before my surgery. It has been an insane ride. I have alternating thoughts that This is great – we always wanted 3 and OMGWHATHAVEWEDONETHISISINSANE! I am worried because my kids are 6 and 8 and are so much older than the baby. I will have a kid in college, high school and elementary school at the same time eventually. This baby is going to grow up a lot like an only, but we made our bed and will lie in it. We are already feeling done now with this bun in the oven and this is a good number because we have 4 bedrooms and they will all be filled now. My kids are little joiners and we have a lot of activities and I don’t want to take away from my older kids and what they want to do. This baby will be our drag along child to go to dance and Tball and Soccer and Hockey and Cheerleading. He is going to learn to enjoy the car LOL

Jeannie

Thanks Amy for this post, and to everyone for your replies. I’m 38, have two kids, and decided after the second that we were DONE, but my husband and I both have this little niggling feeling that something is missing … having a third for us where we live is insane. With two I can work part time and we live in a small but reasonably located home. With a third we’d need to move, I might need to either quit or work full time (neither is appealing!) — not to mention there are days when we feel like we’re barely holding on with two!

I think in the end what it will come down to is that we’ll end up trying, because we’ll regret it if we don’t, but given our ages (he’s older) we probably won’t. And that will be ok too.

I said from day one that I wanted three kids. I went after my first and second daughters without so much as a second thought. I had the same feeling about chasing #3…until the last few months, as my younger daughter creeps up on a year, and the time to start trying comes closer. it’s a scary jump. there is definitely the sense out there that going from two to three takes you from Normal Family to the Duggars. And yes, two different people, upon hearing I wanted a third, without a request for their advice, informed me that all the people they knew with three kids were crazy and I was a fool for wanting a third. No real point here, except to say that this was timely:)

Lesley

My favorite is when people decide to not have a third because they would not fit in a restaurant booth or someone would have to ride on the roller coaster alone. Important stuff here, people.

On a sidenote, I cannot think about this right now, as I am days away from giving birth to my second child and feeling overwhelmed enough from the jump from one child to two…though I am pretty sure already that I want a third. 🙂

Melissa

We’re currently also pregnant with #5. Our three came as a blended family and #4 was totally planned after a long stretch of thinking we were done…but yeah, that feeling of NOT REALLY DONE is what we really had. We logically thought we were done, after all the older ones are already teenagers and wtf, four kids? Crazy! But like Amy said it just felt like someone wasn’t here. Like we were missing him but didn’t quite understand what that nagging feeling was. Then we went for it after both our sisters decided to have babies and when our #4 arrived, it was the last line…YES, THIS IS EXACTLY RIGHT. Our toddler is perfectly ours. And after he was born, we had the vasectomy talk and no…one last one wasn’t here yet. So here we are, pregnant with number five and it was funny but after those two lines showed up we suddenly felt like OKAY, now were’ done after this little one shows up. That feeling of being completely done finally arrived. I can’t wait to meet this new baby and see who we’ve been feeling wasn’t here, because I know he or she will be exactly THE ONE. And then, whew, done!

Jill

Ok, another column request: can you (if you’re there yet?) discuss how you know you’re done? We have an almost-3-year-old and a 5 month old, and I already can’t wait until my husband gets home from deployment to get started on #3. I have to remind myself to stop and spend as much time as possible taking in this one’s babyhood, because I know how quickly it passes. But honestly, I have asked some other friends how they knew when they were “done,” because after so many years of trying to get pregnant I honestly can’t imagine trying to avoid it. I wonder if I will ever actually *know* I’m done, or if we will just get old enough/get enough crap from people that we’ll stop having babies.

Kimberly

How timely. My husband and I were just talking about this. All of my friends have said they want two kids and only two kids. But my husband and I won’t make that determination just yet. I am pregnant with #2. There’s no saying we will stop at two kids; we’ll just have to see how things go. All I know is two seems too few for me.

This is a constant thought for me too. We have 2 year old twins, and a 6 month old, and I already catch myself thinking about another baby. Great post, thank you!

Heidi

Oh wow! I had my 2nd child three weeks ago and up to the day of his birth, I adamantly proclaimed I would be done with two. Cause hell no would I go through pregnancy and childbirth and sleepless newborn nights again. But then the whole birth and first-weeks-newborn experience have been so vastly different to No. 1 and so utterly pleasant, that my husband and I both are all of a sudden not so sure about that vasectomy. We haven’t decided yet but we’ll keep the option open.
Made me smile to read your post just now when I am thinking about a No. 3. Thanks as always – I love your site.

Kimm

Wow, we just had the talk and made the decision to try to go from 1 to 2, 2 to 3 seems like a really big thing! Good luck to all of you!

Angie

Oh, Amy, I wish you lived next door so you could hold my hand and speak in the same comforting way you write. We are embarking on the fertility journey again (our son is four) and I am paralyzed with fear. Waking up in the middle of the night. Terrified. Because it COULD WORK and I feel like I’m just getting my sanity back after the hormones and pregnancy and in law drama and PPD. This is so very important to my husband. It would be nice for our son to have a sibling. So why am I on the fence? Sigh.

Kate

@Jill — THAT. EXACTLY. I have an almost 3 year old and an 4 month old and these last four months have been…well.. really really hard. But still, I often find myself day dreaming about #3. The minute #2 was born I was thinking, “That was awesome, let’s do it again!” It was a struggle to get my husband to committ to a third (at some point in the future) but I know I’ll have no hope of convincing him of a fourth, so I just really hope that I feel “done” after 3. I just can’t imagine it, though. Our kids are so awesome, why wouldn’t we want more of them?

Kim

I just posted on FB yesterday that I’ve really no desire for another baby, but my just-turned-two kid is so fantastic, I could totally see having another one of those.
Personally, as part of the 2 and done crowd, I can tell you there was no waffling for me. I went through the pregnancy knowing it was the last time, and the babyhood, and we took forever to wean because I didn’t really want to stop. I gleefully shed baby gear as we go. Even if I wasn’t so old, and we had more money, three would never be more than a passing fancy for us. We KNOW. OTOH. I was pretty sure I wasn’t going to have a second, and I was slowly getting used to that idea when this showed up – surprise! So I know the incomplete feeling too.

Jen

Aaah! An Ike picture for the column! ::drools::

It’s weird this column speaks to me, because I’m pregnant with my 2nd, not my 3rd. And we’ve always known we will want 3 or 4 kids, although we do want to adopt also so this might be my last pregnancy (but I don’t think so. Even just pregnant with the 2nd I have a nagging feeling I’ll want to be pregnant again).

So my freakout moment was more having #2 SO QUICKLY. (Got pregnant when my daughter was 5 months old) I’m in love with my daughter, she’s perfect, in some ways I’m even happy having just her, but, there was this nagging feeling that I needed another baby RIGHT AWAY. And it was the same ‘not making a decision’ thing – we just didn’t use protection but I did watch my cycle and tried to not have sex on fertile days. Hah, joke’s on me – the second month my cycle was back..BAM pregnant. And my husband and I were alternatively thrilled and freaking out and I’m still freaking out – #1 is still in diapers, just learned how to CRAWL, I”m SO TIRED, etc etc – what the heck am I doing being pregnant with #2? And then, like you said, I feel guilty for besmirching my poor fetus.

So your last paragraph just spoke to me – I know I’m going to be in heavenly schmoopy love the moment he comes out. He belongs in our family, and he belongs here NOW, no matter how crazy we are.

A

We now have 3 kids and it’s perfect. Going from 2 to 3 was really scary because #2 was a preemie and spent 79 days in the NICU. DH and I debated for a long time about #3 but we had always wanted 3 and in the end we didn’t want our family size to be dictated by fear of what might happen. The pregnancy was really difficult but Baby #3 is so amazing. And because of all the complications I had a tubal and we are definitely DONE.

It’s very interesting to see how many people here are considering vasectomies since I currently know 3 people who are pregnant after their husbands had one. Two women are pregnant with their 4th child and one is expecting twins (her 3rd and 4th child). Apparently vasectomies can take over a year to become effective, just throwing that out there.

This is so timely. We have 2 children (4 1/2 and 18 months) and although we are adamant that we don’t want more kids, neither have either of us really pushed for the vasectomy that we say is totally going to happen. It makes absolutely no sense to have another child. Our 18 month has been so challenging, so hard to bond with for me, I really don’t want to take away more time from her and make her the middle child. And TC is such a great big brother, does he deserve the responsibility of being oldest for another baby? And our house is so small and our money is so tight already and childcare and and and. Yet when I hear the 2 of them laughing together in the bath, there is this tiny little voice that says they are just waiting for one more. Aaaahhhh back and forth…it kills me. Good to know that I’m not alone. I would also be interested in hearing more about the logistics of 3.

Erin

My husband and I before we started having kids had a conversation on how many we saw us with, we wanted to find out what the other saw as our future family. My husband wants a baseball team of kids and I’m fine with up to four. Two kids in we both feel we would like to have another one, I LOVE our family the way it is now but do feel I’m missing someone.

However, it will be quite a few more years before we can have that third child and then possibly the fourth due to size restraints at our current home.

When I imagine the future I just, I feel like I want to have another one. If it turns out not to be possible I’m happy with the family I have now… but it’s the what if and I really want to find out what that if is.

Melissa

We had twin girls first, and just always felt like we wanted another…but I was petrified about another set of twins. Once I was pregnant (with only ONE) I definitely had days of thinking “What have we done???” But now he’s here (8 months old) of course three kids is absolutely wonderful. That said – I absolutely positively knew he is THE LAST, basically from the second that we knew the pregnancy was viable. I used to be skeptical about “just knowing” but that’s exactly how it was.

HeatherJ

I have a 9-year-old son, almost 7-year-old daughter, and a 7-month-old son. When my daughter was about 1 and a half, I saw her cuddling one evening with my husband and it just hit me: I want to do this again. Well, life was a whirlwind with 2 kids under the age of 4 and then my husband was deployed for a year and a half. When he came back, we had a a hard time re-connecting as a family. Another child was out of the question. But… I unexpectedly got pregnant. The timing was terrible, however, I really believe that things have a way of working out. Our baby is the light of our lives, adored by his older siblings and such a part of our family that it seems like he’s always been here. By the way, I found the transition from 1 to 2 kids to be SO MUCH HARDER than the transition from 2 to 3 kids. It helps that my older kids are in grade school though- they can do so much for themselves and are in school all day.

Julie

I would like to second the mention of the book Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids. Great, interesting, entertaining read.

Krista

So … I just found out that I am pregnant with my child #3. I have 2 girls, 7 1/2 and 1 1/2. We recently finished a 1000 square foot addition to our tiny house and still only have 3 bedrooms, of which 1 is currently occupied by my mother-in-law, who is retired and caring for child #2 while I’m at work, so I am quite baffled by how we are going to do this … but we will have to, some way, some how, right??. During hurricane Sandy the roof got blown off of our house, so we are also in the process of rebuilding our kitchen and living room because of that. I am worried because my husband has epileptic seizures and is out of work on disability. My older daughter was also recently diagnosed with the same condition. Thank GOD things have been going okay in the last year and I’m praying that it continues!! It going to be extremely challenging to have to support a family of six on my own, that’s for sure. I just want to let all of you know that this site and all of your comments and stories have made me think so much more positively about the situation and have proven to me that we as mothers can accomplish anything!! I look forward to the many challenges and changes ahead that this new bundle of joy will bring to our family. Thank you all and enjoy every waking second with your beautiful families!!

Amy – Love this post! I linked to you as a resource in my post How to Decide Whether to Have Another Baby. http://motherscircle.net/have-another-baby/
I, too, am a mom of three and I have a friend who wasn’t sure whether to have a 4th – they went back and forth, he would say they’re done and she would want another, then she would be done and he’s want another. Finally, they got onto the same page and he went for a vasectomy. After the procedure, they found out they were expecting #4! 🙂 Decision made.

Sarah

This is exactly what I needed to see at the perfect time. I’m pretty sure we have the same brain.
Thank you.

LaurenAshley

As a Mother or 4 I can assure you that once you have 2 children, 3 & 4 is a piece of cake!

Now, I’m not sure about taking the leap to #5, however I do have this feeling that I am not done. My kids are great! Their ages are 12, 9, 7, and 3. Some may call me crazy for wanting more but I feel extremely blessed to be a Mommy! My dream since I was a little girl was to have a big family. When I think of the future I feel 4 kids to carry my blood, is not a lot..at all. God willing, I will have 2 more.

With all that being said whatever you choose be sure that its what YOU want. To me, there’s not much that tops being surrounded by your own creations.

Rose

Love this post !! So weird .. For the past month me and my husband has been around in circles deciding wether or not we should have one more or not . I have 4 kids right now .. 11 (son) 7 (daughter) 5 (son) 6months (son) . We weighed out the pros & cons and there were quite a heap of cons lol but that only typical things like bills, weight loss & more bills .. Which can easily be worked on during the 9months of carrying . I’m just over taking a break .. Like why wait ? If we know we’re gonna have another one they why wait ? . I guess that answers it then .. #5 then my family will be complete 🙂

Traci

To all the commenters: did any of you have difficult pregnancies? If so, how did you decide to go for another? We’ve decided to stop at one and I know it is best for so many reasons, but there’s just something… I guess I just worry my little guy is missing out. For the record, hyperemesis and cholestasis…I was down to 10 minutes sleep a night and oh my god the itching.

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