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Yeh, **** the stats; thats easy for you to say when you have Crawford's penis in your mouth.

This type of posting is exactly why a lot of people have stopped reading and writing the KO forum. Nobody insulted you. Why do you have act like that? This is not a war. Nobody around here works for the Knicks and what we want to do here is talk about basketball.

Alan Houston was a leader, one of the best SG in Knicks history and the greatest shooter in Knicks history. Alan Houston WON at the same time and was CLUTCH. Even with bad knees, Houston left his body on the court just to give his team a chance.

Crawford isn't a leader on the court. He's been playing wreckless his way(ever since high school) He's a NBA vet and plays like a NBA rookie.

alan houston, the same guy who averaged more 3 point shots than FTs, if u wanna talk about *****, thats the guy, this guy couldnt guard a damn player, and i remember i year where alan houston would go out for 20 points in the first half and just disappear, thats the total opposite for jamal, jamal is a performer down the stretch, and if u still believe dat jamal plays the same as when he played in chicago then obviously u dont watch knick games, u obviously just listening to the BIAS ass espn comentators

alan houston, the same guy who averaged more 3 point shots than FTs, if u wanna talk about *****, thats the guy, this guy couldnt guard a damn player, and i remember i year where alan houston would go out for 20 points in the first half and just disappear, thats the total opposite for jamal, jamal is a performer down the stretch, and if u still believe dat jamal plays the same as when he played in chicago then obviously u dont watch knick games, u obviously just listening to the BIAS ass espn comentators

I would first like to nominate this post for the worst post of the week award

Most Starbury haters only listen to bias espn commentators, its funny you bring that up.

This is sad to see Crawford and Houston gettin compared, i mite have to take a week off from posting after this.

Please do, Jamal disappears during the first half lol, most knicks game Jamal scores like 5-12 pts in the first half the second half is his strong point.

You cant compare Crawford to Allan Houston, H20 wasnt the best defender but far better then Crawford. If those teams had Crawford instead of Houston our absence from the playoffs would be even longer. Again, you need to learn about shooting percentages, points per game dont tell the whole story.

You cant compare Crawford to Allan Houston, H20 wasnt the best defender but far better then Crawford. If those teams had Crawford instead of Houston our absence from the playoffs would be even longer. Again, you need to learn about shooting percentages, points per game dont tell the whole story.

no way, alan houston couldnt do nothing right on defense, lmaooo, most of the times u come up wit good points but to say alan houston got better defense than jamal crawford better yet,alan houston possibly the worst defender i ever seen after curry cuz curry is just clueless......lets look at this, in his 12 year NBA career, alan houston was only able to collect 566 steals in his career and 139 blocks, lmaooooooooooooo, now crawford, in his 8 year career, he has 543 steals and 126 blocks, and metro, what are you crazy, u must be to crazy to say alan houston, our leader???????u must be nuts, our heart and soul of our team came sprewell who playing out of position because soft ass alan houston couldnt fit any other role

alan houston a 6'6 guard who's career average is 2.9 rebounds a game and ya'll talking about soft??you gotta be kidding me

no way, alan houston couldnt do nothing right on defense, lmaooo, most of the times u come up wit good points but to say alan houston got better defense than jamal crawford better yet,alan houston possibly the worst defender i ever seen after curry cuz curry is just clueless......lets look at this, in his 12 year NBA career, alan houston was only able to collect 566 steals in his career and 139 blocks, lmaooooooooooooo, now crawford, in his 8 year career, he has 543 steals and 126 blocks, and metro, what are you crazy, u must be to crazy to say alan houston, our leader???????u must be nuts, our heart and soul of our team came sprewell who playing out of position because soft ass alan houston couldnt fit any other role

alan houston a 6'6 guard who's career average is 2.9 rebounds a game and ya'll talking about soft??you gotta be kidding me

You have a point, usually the type of points that I come with (backed up with statistics).

Statistically, Crawford mite be a better defender then Houston but he has more problems keepin the player on offense in front of him then Houston did. Both were poor defenders, but Crawford is the worst defender ever. Occasionally he gets some nice steals, he has the long quick arms and foot speed to be a good defender, just not the toughness.

I agree that Sprewell made the biggest impact on that team, on both ends of the court. It always bothered me seein him play out of position, I wanted to see H20 traded because I thought Spree would be alot better at the 2 guard spot. I realize now that I shouldve shut the f*ck up and enjoyed the winning, because we havent seen winning since the Spree/houston days.

alan houston, the same guy who averaged more 3 point shots than FTs, if u wanna talk about *****, thats the guy, this guy couldnt guard a damn player, and i remember i year where alan houston would go out for 20 points in the first half and just disappear, thats the total opposite for jamal, jamal is a performer down the stretch, and if u still believe dat jamal plays the same as when he played in chicago then obviously u dont watch knick games, u obviously just listening to the BIAS ass espn comentators

I know I'm late but I like to make an entrance. I'd like to nominate this post as the best post of the month. Not that I think Crawford is all that good but I agree that Houston was a bitch! Did he make my over rated list? I don't remember but his ass should have been up there. Let's get Spreewell back so he can feed his family.

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Originally Posted by pat

This type of posting is exactly why a lot of people have stopped reading and writing the KO forum. Nobody insulted you. Why do you have act like that? This is not a war. Nobody around here works for the Knicks and what we want to do here is talk about basketball.

Stop crying like a bitch. Its not like you contribute anything to the forum anyway.

Originally Posted by datruth

alan houston, the same guy who averaged more 3 point shots than FTs, if u wanna talk about *****, thats the guy, this guy couldnt guard a damn player, and i remember i year where alan houston would go out for 20 points in the first half and just disappear, thats the total opposite for jamal, jamal is a performer down the stretch, and if u still believe dat jamal plays the same as when he played in chicago then obviously u dont watch knick games, u obviously just listening to the BIAS ass espn comentators

Houston was a man.
Crawford is a little ass kid.

Houston was respected throughout the NBA, Crawford is a clown.

Crawford never disappears? Are you the dumbest Dominican in NYC now? You gotta do better research than show me than the cum in your mouth you sucked from Jamal's dick.

Houston took mostly jumpshots but still at least shot 44-45%

Houston's career high in Free Throw attempts were 395

Crawford's was 357

In Houston's career he got 300+ Free throw attempts per season 6 times.

Crawford only got it once.

Crawford is a chucker:

Crawford took 521 threes in his first season as a full time starter, only made 31% of those. He's obviously a SOFT chucker where as Houston had the skills to get to the free throw line.

Allan Houston on broken legs plays better defense than Crawford any time, we've been the worst defensive team in the NBA all around the last 3 years under Crawford. Defense starts the perimeter, Crawford is the weakest link. Our defense didn't suffer with Houston @ the backcourt.

Houston was bigger than Crawford
Houston was stronger than Crawford
Houston was a leader, Crawford is a loser
Houston is a sharp shooter, Crawford is a clanker
Houston has the skillset to get to the free throw, Crawford wishes he had a brain.
Houston was a role model and real man, Chuck Norris status.
Crawford looks like a crack head version of Elmo from Seseme Street.
Houston won us games
Crawford lost us a ton of games in a short period of time.
Crawford is one of the worst defenders in Knicks history.
Houston is the greatest shooter in Knicks history.

Jamal Crawford isn't a performer down the stretch, compared to Houston who's a performer down to the ****ing PLAYOFFS. I should really slap the **** out of you to think I haven't been following the Knicks the last 3 seasons, no one else in this world knows better than me on how bad Crawford is for this team. For you to disrespect Houston like this and actually compare him to a loser like Crawful; you now lost your Knick fan membership for life. Fall the **** back and create your own forum where you could dick ride Saigon, Crawful and Isiah all day. This is a Knicks forum, we don't bash the legends here, and Houston is respectfully a legend as a Knick.

Stop crying like a bitch. Its not like you contribute anything to the forum anyway.

Houston was a man.
Crawford is a little ass kid.

Houston was respected throughout the NBA, Crawford is a clown.

Crawford never disappears? Are you the dumbest Dominican in NYC now? You gotta do better research than show me than the cum in your mouth you sucked from Jamal's dick.

Houston took mostly jumpshots but still at least shot 44-45&#37;

Houston's career high in Free Throw attempts were 395

Crawford's was 357

In Houston's career he got 300+ Free throw attempts per season 6 times.

Crawford only got it once.

Crawford is a chucker:

Crawford took 521 threes in his first season as a full time starter, only made 31% of those. He's obviously a SOFT chucker where as Houston had the skills to get to the free throw line.

Allan Houston on broken legs plays better defense than Crawford any time, we've been the worst defensive team in the NBA all around the last 3 years under Crawford. Defense starts the perimeter, Crawford is the weakest link. Our defense didn't suffer with Houston @ the backcourt.

Houston was bigger than Crawford
Houston was stronger than Crawford
Houston was a leader, Crawford is a loser
Houston is a sharp shooter, Crawford is a clanker
Houston has the skillset to get to the free throw, Crawford wishes he had a brain.
Houston was a role model and real man, Chuck Norris status.
Crawford looks like a crack head version of Elmo from Seseme Street.
Houston won us games
Crawford lost us a ton of games in a short period of time.
Crawford is one of the worst defenders in Knicks history.
Houston is the greatest shooter in Knicks history.

Jamal Crawford isn't a performer down the stretch, compared to Houston who's a performer down to the ****ing PLAYOFFS. I should really slap the **** out of you to think I haven't been following the Knicks the last 3 seasons, no one else in this world knows better than me on how bad Crawford is for this team. For you to disrespect Houston like this and actually compare him to a loser like Crawful; you now lost your Knick fan membership for life. Fall the **** back and create your own forum where you could dick ride Saigon, Crawful and Isiah all day. This is a Knicks forum, we don't bash the legends here, and Houston is respectfully a legend as a Knick.

"alan houston is bigger and stronger" and he still average the same amount of rebounds than crawford, what does that show,lmaooo, and u say crawford is our weakest link in our perimeter defense(which is true) but what the F#ck was alan houston????he was the only player who couldnt play defense,u talking about dickridig, lmaoooooo, all i'll give to alan houston is that he is a good shooter, but to say he had the skills to get the FT line and not to say dat about crawford kinda shows that u brain dead, who's talking about saigon and isiah, why u catching feelings, metro got some emotions when it comes to alan houston, cormega said it best, "Only bitches deal wit emotions" and why everytime somebody got an opinion that doesn't agree wit urs it has to be dickriding????damn metro u was cool when u first came in but u losing points as days go by, smh, damn shame

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**** being cool, you become uncool when you drop a bomb on a respected Knick like Houston and actually try to defend a loser like Crawford. You lose your identity as a Knick fan and just came out the closet as an Isiahsexual.

Houston had stronger upper body strength than Crawford, Crawford is weak all around.

Before Houston was injured, he wasn't a liability on defense. You obviously weren't around to watch the games. Crawford is the worst defensive guard in Knicks history. Houston has cojones and still played games with two ****ed up knees. Crawford plays with that stupid tampon thing on his shoulder, dude is 100% *****.

I just dropped the facts about Houston getting to the FT line much more than Crawford, re-read them you chimp. You said nothing in return of that.

You got comerga's dick in your mouth too? Damn, be yourself. In life you don't want to quote people, but be quotable. You obviously lack mad self esteem to stand up for yourself.

Why is every time someone gets embarrassed in a lopsided debate, they come out crying at me stressing that I don't respect their opinions? How many times you going to cry that out like a bitch? It isn't about opinions, you really need to stop raiding the forum with moronic statements that lack research and substance. This isn't a forum for 9 year olds, so try to act like a god damn man. You get your feelings hurt and now you trying to hug me and ask me why I'm being "mean"? Damn, you being a bitch ass ***** now.

I'm not here to agree or disagree, I just want the facts or opinions backed up with facts and solid research. You've failed miserably and came out like an emotional bitch because Allan Houston ****ed your mother while praying the Hail Mary.

**** it too, ban my crazy ass...I'm tired and ****; been up since 5 AM, work/school/workout/bitches/teach class/commute...then come home at 11:30 PM cold, tired and hungry to deal with stupid hating motha****as like you? Anyone who disrespects Allan Houston is getting disrespected in here, I don't care if its my own mother. Allan Houston did his best as a Knick and gave a lot to the organization. If you can't respect that, you can't be a Knicks fan.

Hard and rugged, but its the ****ing truth.

The ****ing best shooter in the NBA when he was at his prime...no one ****ed with his J.

You got comerga's dick in your mouth too? Damn, be yourself. In life you don't want to quote people, but be quotable. You obviously lack mad self esteem to stand up for yourself.

Why is every time someone gets embarrassed in a lopsided debate, they come out crying at me stressing that I don't respect their opinions? How many times you going to cry that out like a bitch? It isn't about opinions, you really need to stop raiding the forum with moronic statements that lack research and substance. This isn't a forum for 9 year olds, so try to act like a god damn man. You get your feelings hurt and now you trying to hug me and ask me why I'm being "mean"? Damn, you being a bitch ass ***** now.

I'm not here to agree or disagree, I just want the facts or opinions backed up with facts and solid research. You've failed miserably and came out like an emotional bitch because Allan Houston ****ed your mother while praying the Hail Mary.
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yo metro, u gay??? u always got some "dick sucking", "dick riding", "dick in your mouth" reference, u talking about this is a grown man forum, dogs do u realize the things you write???what grown man curse in every other line,u curse more than a eminem verse, what grown man brings in another person mother's to a forum??? and im not saying u gotta respect other people's opinions, when did i ever say dat??all im saying is why somebody gotta be "____sexual" when they making a case...damn metro u lost in life

Yo Thanks truth for defending me. We try to be civil and give credit where its due but guys like Metro get high off their own **** so much they refuse to believe that people disagree with him. He likes to pick a side of an argument to the end and defend it to the grave. Even if it means talking smack like a 5th grader to do it. It doesn;t even bother me though. Keep those stats coming champ and i'll tell you why they don't mean anything on their own.

When the hell did Houston become God around here anyways? I mean sure hes better than crawford. And those two CANNOT be compared. But who said he was a Legend? Houston was an All Star. Frazier, Monroe, Reed and Ewing are top 50 to ever play. They Are Knicks Legends.

Stop crying like a bitch. Its not like you contribute anything to the forum anyway.

Thank you for proving my point. Also, this is not only about me. Don't you see what you are doing? You and a few other posters spam every thread with pointless statistics and insults. The problem (not so much mine because I actually have a live, which is the reason why I don't write 100 posts a day) but rather yours is that if you continue to insult people, they will just stop reading/writing around here. So you can argue with MSG, Pricey and possibly abcd. But that might not really be arguing since you guys hardly disagree on anything.

It is one thing to disagree on topics and another to insult people and to believe to know something like a universal truth.