DA upto 50k on PTR - Awesome !

Just tried disc priest on new version of the PTR and i got to stack upto 50k on the tank while doing a heroic.. while in combat a 50k buff !! OMG !! Seriously... isnt that OP ?
My PW:S was like 50% off while i got to stack all that.. yee i was over healing.. but as long as i was getting more DA on the target the more i overhealed just to see how much could i get to.. and OMG 50k !! thats like the double of any greater heal from any spec. Is that going to remain this way ? I dont know how is discipline gonna end on Cataclysm but if i can do that in my blue gear on the PTR, Wellcome 4.0.6.

Right now on live i can get a stacked 20k Divine Aegis shield. Obviously though youd have to roll out a lot of heals to stack it that high with no damage in-between so not so OP - good for pre-shielding before a pull i suppose [stack it then eat some mana cake]. Shame DA's dont give mana back !

Stacked? I been getting 18-21k divine aegis shields from greater heal for quite a while now. I asume you were talking about spells like greater heal etc as you said tank healing. And from what I can see from the patchnotes, the DA changes are only to crits from PoH and either way you wont be getting "50k" stacks from that unless you are outside of combat.

Stacked? I been getting 18-21k divine aegis shields from greater heal for quite a while now. I asume you were talking about spells like greater heal etc as you said tank healing. And from what I can see from the patchnotes, the DA changes are only to crits from PoH and either way you wont be getting "50k" stacks from that unless you are outside of combat.

If they did change it, which we have not see it in the data mining, this is more of a Single Target healing buff. If you look at GHeal it can proc near 50k. So currently on live, that is a 10k DA on a GHeal Crit. However, you max it out in 2 heals (20k).

With our 2 set bonus being 5% crit to heal, we should be able to stack DA to 50k and keep it there fairly easy. This should help Disc's mana efficiency as well.

However, more information is needed. Is the buff from the cap being raised to 50% of the Priests health? Or is the DA cap now affected by Mastery?

If you can try it with NO gear on and let us know how that affects the DA Stack.

Just tested on PTR - DA cap seems to be 40% there, looks like they doubled it.

Also a 50k GHeal will proc a 15k+mastery DA, more like 20k for most I would think.

This is pretty fantastic news for scaling. It will not have a super huge effect Right Now(tm), but if the current 20% model would have stayed, Our DAs would have scaled much faster than our Health, leading to an actual honest to God MST "soft cap" on GH crits sometime during T12 for most.

Just for edification, a 50k GH crit would proc a DA of the following sizes:

0MST from Gear(36%DA): 18k
5MST from Gear(~40%DA): 20k
10MST from Gear(43.5%DA): 21.75k [This would require prioritizing MST above CRIT or HST in T11]
12MST from Gear(45%DA): 22.5k [This level is darn near almost ignoring any other stat in T11 (everything reforged to MST)]

I think they are considering not buffing PW:S but instead having the best DA possible.. but as i played a lot in the PTR with the disc priest i can say.. thay we need the PW:S buffed as we cannot stack DA if PW:S is almost paper shield. But yee i like the way is being done in the PTR right now.. u need to remove ur PW:S debuff by casting heals this renews ur DA but once again the first absorb is always DA long before PW:S gets hit.. so it should be the other way round. PW:S should be the first absorb and then the DA..

Yeah, with mastery it would be 15k-20k. But that varies from player to player, so I went with the base 20% DA proc.

Base DA proc is 30%. Hence 50k = 15k (base) + mastery bonus.

I prefer DA before PW:S for absorb order - DA is free and has a shorter duration. There's no particular reason to want to stack a massive DA either, using it as fast as possible is better than letting it stack and be wasted.

I prefer DA before PW:S for absorb order - DA is free and has a shorter duration. There's no particular reason to want to stack a massive DA either, using it as fast as possible is better than letting it stack and be wasted.

Yeah, you are correct. Don't know why I had 20% stuck in my head (20% of health maybe). But still, my point was it still takes 2 crits now to stack it fully.