Any early rumors out there on who's getting cut by the Texans. I think we'll be picking up a couple of pretty good DL off the waiver. Phil and Tenn are loaded so they'll have to make moves or release a couple on each team.

awtysst

09-05-2009, 01:00 PM

Question:
If we make our cuts and then pick up a player off the Waiver wire, can we then cut that player later in the day if we see someone we prefer?

b0ng

09-05-2009, 01:14 PM

Question:
If we make our cuts and then pick up a player off the Waiver wire, can we then cut that player later in the day if we see someone we prefer?

Aren't WW transactions a 24 hour deal? We could probably rescind the claim if we want something else.

All teams have to be 53 man rosters by 4 pm EDT (I think) today.

SoCalTexanFan

09-05-2009, 01:20 PM

Question:
If we make our cuts and then pick up a player off the Waiver wire, can we then cut that player later in the day if we see someone we prefer?

I don't think it works exactly like that. Waiver wire works in an order. It's like the draft. Worst teams give first shot and down the line. I'm not sure if the same process works on this cut. Guys with current contracts are handled differently than rookies or free agents.

mussop

09-05-2009, 01:27 PM

Once players are cut by a team, they are eligible to be signed first by the team with the worst record in the previous season (in this case the Lions), then the second worst and so on until you get to the best NFL team. So if a player is cut and the Lions don't put a waiver out on him, he's eligible to be signed by the Rams and then the Chiefs and so on. Of course, the team that signs him can't go over the 53-man roster limit so they may have to make cuts as well to make room.

If a waived player is picked up by a team and then released again, he goes through the waiver wire process all over again.

Only players with four or fewer accrued NFL seasons enter the waiver wire. Here is the definition of an accrued season: 6 or more regular-season games in one season in which a player is on the 53-man protected roster, IR list or PUP list.

Players who have completed more than four accrued seasons automatically become free agents if they are let go at this point in the season.

This waiver wire order is reset on September 28th to reflect the current worst win/loss records in the league.

SoCalTexanFan

09-05-2009, 01:44 PM

Once players are cut by a team, they are eligible to be signed first by the team with the worst record in the previous season (in this case the Lions), then the second worst and so on until you get to the best NFL team. So if a player is cut and the Lions don't put a waiver out on him, he's eligible to be signed by the Rams and then the Chiefs and so on. Of course, the team that signs him can't go over the 53-man roster limit so they may have to make cuts as well to make room.

If a waived player is picked up by a team and then released again, he goes through the waiver wire process all over again.

Only players with four or fewer accrued NFL seasons enter the waiver wire. Here is the definition of an accrued season: 6 or more regular-season games in one season in which a player is on the 53-man protected roster, IR list or PUP list.

Players who have completed more than four accrued seasons automatically become free agents if they are let go at this point in the season.

This waiver wire order is reset on September 28th to reflect the current worst win/loss records in the league.

Mario
ASmith
Barwin
Bulman
Okoye
Robinson
Okam
Cody
...... if we keep 9 DL, I think he may make it. He has a ton of potential and is already playing pretty fast out there. I think I'd like to see him make it over Nading.

Corrosion

09-05-2009, 02:36 PM

Your not. We would have to sign him first.

I believe they also have to clear waivers to be PS elegible.

76Texan

09-05-2009, 02:40 PM

Do you think Jamison has a chance to make the 53 man roster?

Mario
ASmith
Barwin
Bulman
Okoye
Robinson
Okam
Cody
...... if we keep 9 DL, I think he may make it. He has a ton of potential and is already playing pretty fast out there. I think I'd like to see him make it over Nading.

I like to keep them both if we can!

mussop

09-05-2009, 02:40 PM

Darius Walker, RB, Denver Broncos
Another X Texan released.

Graham Gano, PK, Baltimore Ravens
This guy was great in college.

mussop

09-05-2009, 02:41 PM

I believe they also have to clear waivers to be PS elegible.

You are correct.

blitz90

09-05-2009, 03:19 PM

So where is the list as to who was cut? Wasn't the deadline at noon today?

steelbtexan

09-05-2009, 03:23 PM

I believe they also have to clear waivers to be PS elegible.

yep

m5kwatts

09-05-2009, 03:28 PM

We won't be able to sneak Foster onto the PS and that concerns me....Moats and Brown are locks...will we carry 4 rbs?

michaelm

09-05-2009, 03:34 PM

So where is the list as to who was cut? Wasn't the deadline at noon today?

I think it's 4pm eastern time. If that's true, we have about 25 more minutes.

76Texan

09-05-2009, 03:40 PM

Almost there! Good luck to all the players! :smiliedance:

Maddict5

09-05-2009, 03:42 PM

We won't be able to sneak Foster onto the PS and that concerns me....Moats and Brown are locks...will we carry 4 rbs?

ive seen others say this but i dont see why arian will be a sought after pickup. hes looked promising but mostly only during camp where other teams wont have tape of him. i think he'll get cut, clear waivers & be put on the PS until brown goes down. i dont see why everyone's so worried about him getting picked off by anybody else

DiehardChris

09-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Do you think Jamison has a chance to make the 53 man roster?

Mario
ASmith
Barwin
Bulman
Okoye
Robinson
Okam
Cody
...... if we keep 9 DL, I think he may make it. He has a ton of potential and is already playing pretty fast out there. I think I'd like to see him make it over Nading.

Jamison looked really good last night. Tough call between he and Nading.

m5kwatts

09-05-2009, 03:47 PM

ive seen others say this but i dont see why arian will be a sought after pickup. hes looked promising but mostly only during camp where other teams wont have tape of him. i think he'll get cut, clear waivers & be put on the PS until brown goes down. i dont see why everyone's so worried about him getting picked off by anybody else

Other teams have his college tape, remember he chose less money with us over the Saints because he saw the opportunity here. He was wanted and if the opportunity isn't here there's a chance it will be elsewhere. Not saying he's a lock to get picked up elsewhere but I personally wouldn't risk it.

pbat488

09-05-2009, 03:56 PM

Graham Gano, PK, Baltimore Ravens
This guy was great in college.

You haven't been following him this pre-season, he's not been very good, 1-3 iirc.

I think it's 4pm eastern time. If that's true, we have about 25 more minutes.

Also, I was under the impression the deadline was at 6pm EST, though that is just from random things I've read, and not from any definitive source.

michaelm

09-05-2009, 04:00 PM

Also, I was under the impression the deadline was at 6pm EST, though that is just from random things I've read, and not from any definitive source.

Yeah, you could be right. I didn't have definitive source either. I thought I saw 4pm run across the ESPiN ticker last night, but it was very brief, and I had a few cold beers under my belt at the time... :)

I agree, Hall looked good at RB and can do some ST stuff. I don't think anyone is going to be picking up Foster so if we want him on the PS we can hold onto him.

Hardcore Texan

09-05-2009, 04:34 PM

yayyyy glen martinez made the team and j. busing... thats awesome

+1 :texflag:

hot pickle

09-05-2009, 04:34 PM

andre hall is a good keeper .. only been here 2 weeks and made the team... must be working hard

texasguy346

09-05-2009, 04:35 PM

I hope Foster clears waivers so we can put him on the PS.

BorrowMe

09-05-2009, 04:37 PM

Well there goes Foster

Hardcore Texan

09-05-2009, 04:37 PM

I think he said one person will be cut whenever Robinson returns.

Yeah, I wonder who it is?

And time to report for Dunta, get on a plane dude.

mussop

09-05-2009, 04:39 PM

Wow Im surprised they cut Harrison but very happy about it. This shows that this coaching staff isnt going to accept potentail over production anymore. Thats a good sign.

Im also surprised Davis got cut.

keyser

09-05-2009, 04:40 PM

I hope Foster clears waivers so we can put him on the PS.

Not to pick on you (yours was just the most recent quote), but I don't understand the fascination with Foster in here. I had high hopes for him, also, but he hasn't shown much of anything in the preseason games I've seen him in. In the last game, I was certainly more impressed with Hall than Foster.

BorrowMe

09-05-2009, 04:41 PM

Wow Im surprised they cut Harrison but very happy about it. This shows that this coaching staff isnt going to accept potentail over production anymore. Thats a good sign.

Im also surprised Davis got cut.

How are you surprised Harrison got cut? He's been horrible

Hardcore Texan

09-05-2009, 04:43 PM

Mccain will start if Dunta doesn't come back per Kubiak.

mussop

09-05-2009, 04:44 PM

How are you surprised Harrison got cut? He's been horrible

I know hes been horrible but our coaching staff has had a tendancy to keep players like Harrison in the past because of his potential.

The Pencil Neck

09-05-2009, 04:45 PM

The press conference should be getting underway in a few minutes.

Nevermind... I came back to the page after watching the press conference and got confused by the times. :)

BorrowMe

09-05-2009, 04:46 PM

Mccain will start if Dunta doesn't come back per Kubiak.

Good choice, McCain has been real good in Pre-Season, lets hope it stays that way come Sept. 13

Jackie Chiles

09-05-2009, 04:46 PM

I know hes been horrible but our coaching staff has had a tendancy to keep players like Harrison in the past because of his potential.

I don't know if it was because of potential or lack of a better alternative. In this case Busing clearly showed to be just that, no-brainer imo.

The Pencil Neck

09-05-2009, 04:48 PM

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=5531

Our cuts.

AnthonyE

09-05-2009, 04:48 PM

Official list from HT.com
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=5531

I like Beasing, Hall and Martinez making it...shows hard work and solid play will earn you a spot on this time...No more hand-outs...

Jackie Chiles

09-05-2009, 04:55 PM

Zgonina's Mom will be happy. I met her in KC and she was afraid he would get cut. She travels to every game the Texans play. Wish I could be so lucky! Anyway, glad he made the team.

He will probably still be on pins and needles until the middle of next week. He might be the guy released if there is an appealing option on the waivers at DT.

Wolf6151

09-05-2009, 04:57 PM

Emanuel Cook, SS, New York Jets has been released.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE sign this guy.

WOW, I hope we take a serious look at Cook, he's got to be better than Barber. Along with Trevor Canfield and Marcus Freeman these would be 3 good pickups to add talent and youth to the Texans.

Hottoddie

09-05-2009, 05:02 PM

I'm a little disappointed that Davis got cut also. I really liked his hustle & he wasn't afraid to put a lick on someone. Oh well, you can only keep so many linebackers. It sure is a change of pace to be disappointed about players being cut.

As for the extra roster spot, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see the Texans trade Grossman for a draft pick. He's at his highest value right now. Given that he's only signed for one season & we'll most likely lose him next year, I'll be surprised if we don't trade him. Too bad we didn't get a chance to pay Favre back for his cheap shot. :D

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans have reach injury settlements with LB Cato June (forearm) and FB Boomer Grigsby (ankle).

m5kwatts

09-05-2009, 05:16 PM

Terdell Sands was cut by the Raiders....giant DT and nasty....although I don't think Pitts would be too fond if he signed

Specnatz

09-05-2009, 05:18 PM

Terdell Sands was cut by the Raiders....giant DT and nasty....although I don't think Pitts would be too fond if he signed

refresh memory please

bckey

09-05-2009, 05:19 PM

As for the extra roster spot, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see the Texans trade Grossman for a draft pick. He's at his highest value right now. Given that he's only signed for one season & we'll most likely lose him next year, I'll be surprised if we don't trade him. Too bad we didn't get a chance to pay Favre back for his cheap shot. :D

I was thinking along the same lines. We missed out when Sage was at his highest value. Although I think the Texans are better with Grossman here as insurance.

Texans Pride

09-05-2009, 05:19 PM

Terdell Sands was cut by the Raiders....giant DT and nasty....although I don't think Pitts would be too fond if he signed

Why would Pitts care? Am I missing something?

kiwitexansfan

09-05-2009, 05:22 PM

Mccain will start if Dunta doesn't come back per Kubiak.

Is that a knock on Quinn?

In a perfect world, 6th rounders don't beat out 4th rounders....

Malloy

09-05-2009, 05:23 PM

Is that a knock on Quinn?

In a perfect world, 6th rounders don't beat out 4th rounders....

A question of experience I think, nothing more.

bckey

09-05-2009, 05:24 PM

I really hope the Texans sign a big run stuffing dt today.

On another note it is being reported that the Jags are shopping db Brian Williams.

mussop

09-05-2009, 05:25 PM

Why would Pitts care? Am I missing something?

Pitts' helmet was slapped off his head by Terdell Sands, Pitts took a swing at him.

Character: Sheets was a good team-oriented type his first two years, but started having problems with the coaching staff over his fumble issues in 2007. Frustration boiled over as losses mounted in 2008 and when Sheets had his famed meltdown after the Northwestern game, attacking the offensive game plan and QB Curtis Painter in the press, he was banned from talking to the media for the rest of the year. To say that his former coach is not a big fan of his is an understatement. GRADE: 4.8

Competitiveness: Sheets shows good toughness and aggressiveness, the type that is a fierce competitor on the field, but he needs to control his emotions and work within the team concept better. He never throttles down inside and shows consistency in his running style and is not the type that will lets bumps and bruises affect his play. GRADE: 6.2

Work Habits: Sheets is a good worker on the practice field, but must dedicate more hours in the weight room. Whether it is a lack of effort or just being naturally weak, a player of his size should show better power than he does (only 15 reps on 225-pound bench press). His frustrations with the offense last year caused the coaches to almost have to hose down the huddle before the heated arguments spilled over. For a senior player, he needed to show better leadership ability than to trash his teammates. GRADE: 4.9

m5kwatts

09-05-2009, 05:45 PM

Pitts' helmet was slapped off his head by Terdell Sands, Pitts took a swing at him.

As well as several skirmishes leading up to that... Sands is what you'd call a very dirty player to say the least... but he is a monster and can play the nose

Honoring Earl 34

09-05-2009, 05:46 PM

As well as several skirmishes leading up to that... Sands is what you'd call a very dirty player to say the least... but he is a monster and can play the nose

Hmmm ... we don't sell girlscout cookies do we ?

m5kwatts

09-05-2009, 05:48 PM

Hmmm ... we don't sell girlscout cookies do we ?

I'd love to see us sign him personally... you have to wonder why he was cut though...

DerekLee1

09-05-2009, 05:48 PM

I wonder what the management saw in Andre Hall that they kept him over Foster? Foster has looked good in camp.

I'd be interested in Bernard "The Bonecrusher" Pollard (http://www.craveonline.com/sports/video/bernard-the-bonecrusher-pollard-26131). If not for his reputation as a big hitter, but perhaps for his dance moves. :wild:

eriadoc

09-05-2009, 08:12 PM

What did TE Anthony Hill do to earn a spot?

:coffee:

He blocked well all preseason. He had a bad game offensively against TB, but that isn't why they drafted him. He was touted as the best blocking TE in the draft, and early results speak to that. He can't catch, though.

RT22

09-05-2009, 08:14 PM

I'd be interested in Bernard "The Bonecrusher" Pollard (http://www.craveonline.com/sports/video/bernard-the-bonecrusher-pollard-26131). If not for his reputation as a big hitter, but perhaps for his dance moves. :wild:

I see why he got cut. LOL.

MojoMan

09-05-2009, 08:16 PM

When Dunta Robinson comes on board, the Texans will need to cut one more player.

Who might that be?

Khari

09-05-2009, 08:24 PM

I'd be interested in Bernard "The Bonecrusher" Pollard (http://www.craveonline.com/sports/video/bernard-the-bonecrusher-pollard-26131). If not for his reputation as a big hitter, but perhaps for his dance moves. :wild:

I like it.

:dancer:

Honoring Earl 34

09-05-2009, 08:38 PM

What about Shaun Smith ?

JB

09-05-2009, 08:49 PM

Mitch King?

bckey

09-05-2009, 08:54 PM

When Dunta Robinson comes on board, the Texans will need to cut one more player.

He blocked well all preseason. He had a bad game offensively against TB, but that isn't why they drafted him. He was touted as the best blocking TE in the draft, and early results speak to that. He can't catch, though.

He can catch.........just not hold on.

Silver Oak

09-05-2009, 09:37 PM

Morlon Greenwood got cut in Oakland.

Any one alive not see that one coming?

keyser

09-05-2009, 09:44 PM

Clark Harris being cut surprises me a bit - wasn't he our primary Long Snapper? I haven't been paying attention this offseason - who is going to be our primary LS, now? Has that person been playing this preseason?

I admit it always seems strange to have a whole roster position taken up by a LS, but on the other hand, that's the one positon that you really don't want to have someone make any mistakes - any time they do, it's disastrous.

Jackie Chiles

09-05-2009, 09:45 PM

Clark Harris being cut surprises me a bit - wasn't he our primary Long Snapper? I haven't been paying attention this offseason - who is going to be our primary LS, now? Has that person been playing this preseason?

I admit it always seems strange to have a whole roster position taken up by a LS, but on the other hand, that's the one positon that you really don't want to have someone make any mistakes - any time they do, it's disastrous.

Dreessen has been doing a nice job and Casey is also being groomed.

keyser

09-05-2009, 09:45 PM

Morlon Greenwood got cut in Oakland.

Any one alive not see that one coming?

Well, it was the Raiders... You never know what they'll do.

Vinny

09-05-2009, 09:46 PM

Clark Harris being cut surprises me a bit - wasn't he our primary Long Snapper? I haven't been paying attention this offseason - who is going to be our primary LS, now? Has that person been playing this preseason?

I admit it always seems strange to have a whole roster position taken up by a LS, but on the other hand, that's the one positon that you really don't want to have someone make any mistakes - any time they do, it's disastrous.
These guys are listed as our long snappers at the .com (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp)...

1) Joel Dreessen 2) James Casey 3) Jeff Zgonina

RT22

09-05-2009, 10:03 PM

When players are cut how many vested years do they have to have to not have to go through the waiver process?

Honoring Earl 34

09-05-2009, 10:18 PM

Terrance Taylor, cut by the Colts

Houston_Fanatic

09-05-2009, 10:54 PM

When players are cut how many vested years do they have to have to not have to go through the waiver process?

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64258

Post #5 of this thread explains the process very well. > 4 years

Jackie Chiles

09-05-2009, 10:59 PM

What about Shaun Smith ?

He might fall into the Terdell Sands category. Could probably help us as a big body interior line guy but character issues keep him away.

Anyone remember the John Lopez piece for SI when he was naming the "indispensable" player on each team (excluding the QBs)?

It sounds crazy calling this notorious attitude problem not even yet at the top of the depth chart as pivotal to the Detroit Lions. But it is the Lions we're talking about. And all attitude and distractions aside, when healthy and on the field, Smith can contribute a lot to Jim Schwartz' defense.

One of the key aspects of Schwartz' defense is funneling as much as possible into the middle of the defense, where the 6-2, 325-pound Smith will be.

Keep in mind also, the Lions acquired Smith on the cheap, one-year, $1 million, after he wore out his welcome in Cleveland, reportedly punching quarterback Brady Quinn in an altercation. Nevertheless, if Smith keeps his nose clean, stays healthy and plays to his regular level, the Lions were in desperate need of a gap-filler who can make plays. Smith is it."

I'd be interested in Bernard "The Bonecrusher" Pollard (http://www.craveonline.com/sports/video/bernard-the-bonecrusher-pollard-26131). If not for his reputation as a big hitter, but perhaps for his dance moves. :wild:

last time I saw dancing like that there was a pole involved
:smiliedance:

GP

09-06-2009, 12:32 AM

last time I saw dancing like that there was a pole involved
:smiliedance:

I threw a couple of $1 bills at my laptop screen when I watched that video.

GP makin' it rain!!!!

LOL....

mexican_texan

09-06-2009, 12:44 AM

Anthony Aldridge please.

Carr Bombed

09-06-2009, 12:50 AM

Anthony Aldridge please.

I'd rather have Kory Sheets.

ArlingtonTexan

09-06-2009, 12:55 AM

Anthony Aldridge please.

Nothing picking on you, but people keep mentioning him.

Why? Outside of university of Houston, he is a fast, but seriously undersized RB whose been dropped by at least two NFL teams.

The Pencil Neck

09-06-2009, 02:16 AM

Nothing picking on you, but people keep mentioning him.

Why? Outside of university of Houston, he is a fast, but seriously undersized RB whose been dropped by at least two NFL teams.

I thought he looked really good last year in Denver in pre-season before getting hurt. He had a 4.7 ypc average... which coincidentally was the same as Andre Hall's. But what I remember of him, he looked really explosive in the ZBS.

Although, actually, if I had a choice, I would probably go with Kory Sheets (assuming he fits in our system, of course.) He's got more size.

Brisco_County

09-06-2009, 05:33 AM

Cedric Peerman was the fastest RB at the combine, running a 4.45. He's 5'10" and 216 lbs. He has small hands and could be prone to fumbling, but he definitely has his upside.

From the NFL.com scout report:

Positives: Short, thick build that appears capable of handling NFL punishment. Quick to the hole. Good lateral agility to make defenders miss. Runs with surprising authority. Can bounce to the outside and has the burst to get to the second level. Might lack elite stopwatch speed, but plays fast and can pull away in the open field. Soft hands out of the backfield. High effort player who makes those around him better.

Negatives: Lacks the bulk teams are looking for in a bell-cow runner. May have to be a change of pace back in the NFL due to his struggles in staying healthy. Missed second half of 2007 with Lisfranc surgery on his right foot and missed time last season with a bruised knee. Very small hands, which scouts fear will lead to fumbles. Didn't help his cause in this area with a fumble during the Senior Bowl.

Injury Report

2007: Missed the second half of the season following surgery to fix a Lisfranc injury to his right foot.

Korey Sheets ran a 4.47, is 5'11" and 208, and is said to be an excellent goal line back.

Positives: Lanky build with the room for additional mass without a significant loss of quickness. Quick to the hole. Agile. Can make defenders miss in tight quarters. Quickly gets to top speed and can accelerate through a gap and to the second level. Patient runner who follows his blocks, but can stick his foot in the ground and explode through holes. Good speed for the stretch play. Good vision for the cutback. Despite a lack of prototypical bulk and leg drive, is an extraordinarily effective runner near the goal-line. Good hands out of the backfield. Experienced kick returner with the vision and speed to contribute immediately in this area. Four year contributor who has never missed a game due to injury. Enjoyed a solid week of practice at the Senior Bowl. Could have been hidden a bit by Purdue's reliance on the passing game and surprise at the next level.

Negatives: Lacks the bulk and lower leg drive necessary for grinding out the tough yards. Only had one season as the team's primary back. Operated out of a spread offense, and will likely be forced to acclimate to a more pro-style offense in the NFL. Marginal effectiveness as a pass blocker. Supplies good effort, but simply lacks the strength to hold up. Complained about the struggles of the rest of the Purdue offense -- specifically quarterback Curtis Painter -- to the press.

Peerman was drafted in the 6th, and I believe Sheets was undrafted. What I'm wondering is if the Texans would have taken either of them over Foster is they were available.

ObsiWan

09-06-2009, 07:49 AM

The thing that would make Smithiak pick up either of these three is how they do in blitz pickup. In our offense, if they can't pass block, they're a liability.

dalemurphy

09-06-2009, 08:45 AM

The thing that would make Smithiak pick up either of these three is how they do in blitz pickup. In our offense, if they can't pass block, they're a liability.

I don't know why people are talking about RBs. We need a Safety! and maybe a DT (actually, we just need to start Deljuan).

ObsiWan

09-06-2009, 09:10 AM

I don't know why people are talking about RBs. We need a Safety! and maybe a DT (actually, we just need to start Deljuan).

You'll be happy to know that, according to the current depth chart (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp), DelJuan IS the starting NT.

And I'm with you, I'd like an upgrade at FS over a nicked up Eugene Wilson or a very young, albeit promising, John Busing.

mexican_texan

09-06-2009, 11:36 AM

Nothing picking on you, but people keep mentioning him.

Why? Outside of university of Houston, he is a fast, but seriously undersized RB whose been dropped by at least two NFL teams.

He looked very good with Denver last year in the preseason

Carr Bombed

09-06-2009, 12:06 PM

I don't know why people are talking about RBs. We need a Safety! and maybe a DT (actually, we just need to start Deljuan).

I don't care what position it is.......if it upgrades our team, it's Rick's job to pull off that move.

I'm not real high on Moats, I'd rather have a backup that can actually be a high quality pinch starter incase Slaton gets hurt and I think Sheets can do that....you can never have too many good backs and with the health concerns of C. Brown, RB is still a need on this team.

SAMURAITEXAN

09-06-2009, 12:08 PM

Hope, we are taking a hard look on Safety and DT from waivers.

Any news or rumors?

GO TEXANS!!

Specnatz

09-06-2009, 12:11 PM

I don't know why people are talking about RBs. We need a Safety! and maybe a DT (actually, we just need to start Deljuan).

People mention the RB position because it is a lot easier to find a player who can help after cuts have been made. Also, there have not been a safety worth a look that has been cut so no one will mention that position.

texans90

09-06-2009, 01:39 PM

What do you guys think of the running back Ian Johnson? He was cut from the Vikings, he is a pretty big back and I think would be a good back if Chris Brown goes down with an injury.

m5kwatts

09-06-2009, 01:45 PM

What do you guys think of the running back Ian Johnson? He was cut from the Vikings, he is a pretty big back and I think would be a good back if Chris Brown goes down with an injury.

He'd have to be put on the roster and he's not an upgrade over Hall nor has the staff had the time with him to even be able to evaluate... besides Minn will put him on the PS if he makes it through

CloakNNNdagger

09-06-2009, 01:51 PM

What do you guys think of the running back Ian Johnson? He was cut from the Vikings, he is a pretty big back and I think would be a good back if Chris Brown goes down with an injury.

Big BACK?????????? He's 5'11"/211. Slaton's 5'9"/215. It was questioned going into the NFL if he was big enough to ever be a power back or fast enough to be an every down back. I guess we know what the Vikings thought. But, of course, we have a different system. An interesting pick.

John Niyo, of The Detroit News, reports the Detroit Lions have claimed free-agent CB Marcus McCauley (Vikings) off waivers.

TheRealJoker

09-06-2009, 02:39 PM

I'm a bit disappointed we released Tim Jamison and Buster Davis. I understand that we'll likely bring Jamison to the Practice Squad but I dont think Davis has that eligibility. I would've preferred we bumped Bentley out to SAM and had Davis as primary backup to DeMeco which would've resulted in cutting Chaun Thompson. He's been injured and covers more positions but I think Davis is a better Mike than Thompson is at anything. Bentley is certainly a better SAM and with Barwin we dont need him to drop down to DE in pass rush situations so much anymore.

I think this is a case of our coaching staff relying on a "jack of all trades" outlook rather than looking for QUALITY in any one position.

I hope we bring Jamison to the PS!!!

Thorn

09-06-2009, 05:11 PM

I'm a bit disappointed we released Tim Jamison and Buster Davis. I understand that we'll likely bring Jamison to the Practice Squad but I dont think Davis has that eligibility. I would've preferred we bumped Bentley out to SAM and had Davis as primary backup to DeMeco which would've resulted in cutting Chaun Thompson. He's been injured and covers more positions but I think Davis is a better Mike than Thompson is at anything. Bentley is certainly a better SAM and with Barwin we dont need him to drop down to DE in pass rush situations so much anymore.

I think this is a case of our coaching staff relying on a "jack of all trades" outlook rather than looking for QUALITY in any one position.

I hope we bring Jamison to the PS!!!

Looks like you got your wish on both players. :)

steelbtexan

09-06-2009, 11:19 PM

NFP reported that the Texans put in a claim for Anthony Smith.

Smith was awarded to the Rams who were ahead of the Texans in the Waver Wire selection process.

Smith was awarded to the Rams who were ahead of the Texans in the Waver Wire selection process.

what's NFP?

ChampionTexan

09-07-2009, 02:03 AM

what's NFP?
National Football Post

NFP (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/)

Specnatz

09-07-2009, 02:08 AM

NFP reported that the Texans put in a claim for Anthony Smith.

Smith was awarded to the Rams who were ahead of the Texans in the Waver Wire selection process.

Shit .. In another thread I listed him on my wish list. Grrrr I wanted to be right at least once this spring.

SAMURAITEXAN

09-07-2009, 02:10 AM

I thought St. Louis got him. Where'd you get the info?

edit: Ok, false alarm.

Sorry man. I got confused reading earlier post.

steelbtexan

09-07-2009, 02:19 AM

Shit .. In another thread I listed him on my wish list. Grrrr I wanted to be right at least once this spring.

I wanted the Texans to pick him up too.

Oh well maybe next spring.

Brisco_County

09-07-2009, 03:44 AM

NFP reported that the Texans put in a claim for Anthony Smith.

Smith was awarded to the Rams who were ahead of the Texans in the Waver Wire selection process.

My roommate is a GB fan and says that the Packers' message boards have been blowing up with pissed off fans who aren't happy with the release of Anthony Smith. They also liked Tyrell Sutton (RB), but everyone knows the team already has depth at that position.

TexanBacker93

09-07-2009, 06:41 AM

I think this is a case of our coaching staff relying on a "jack of all trades" outlook rather than looking for QUALITY in any one position.

I hope we bring Jamison to the PS!!!

I think this is an effect of having to designate players as inactive for a game. When you can only carry a certain number of dressed players for a certain position it becomes important that they can play multiple spots. It's why Caldwell can be so valuable. He and Butler will probably be the only reserve O-Line active each week.

The Pencil Neck

09-07-2009, 12:47 PM

I think this is an effect of having to designate players as inactive for a game. When you can only carry a certain number of dressed players for a certain position it becomes important that they can play multiple spots. It's why Caldwell can be so valuable. He and Butler will probably be the only reserve O-Line active each week.

And if that keeps Studdard in street clothes, I'll be happy.

Carr Bombed

09-07-2009, 04:35 PM

Did anybody ever pick up Kory Sheets or did he actually make it back to the 9ers practice squad.

ChampionTexan

09-07-2009, 04:41 PM

Did anybody ever pick up Kory Smith or did he actually make it back to the 9ers practice squad.
If you mean Kory Sheets, yes, he's back with the Niners on the PS.

Lucky

09-07-2009, 04:55 PM

It's why Caldwell can be so valuable. He and Butler will probably be the only reserve O-Line active each week.
My guess is that Chris White and Rashad Butler will be the active O-line reserves.

Carr Bombed

09-07-2009, 05:54 PM

If you mean Kory Sheets, yes, he's back with the Niners on the PS.

I can't believe nobody took a flier on that guy. Oh well

DiehardChris

09-07-2009, 07:32 PM

So uh... the waiver period is over now, is it not? Kubiak said they had their list prioritized and they weren't done. I guess that means that the guys they wanted got snapped up (like Anthony Smith) or they're waiting to negotiate new deals on guys they didn't want to take on the contracts of by taking them off waivers.

steelbtexan

09-07-2009, 08:00 PM

Smithiak are probably waiting until after week 1 to sign Pollard.

Salaries aren't garunteed after week 1.

They risk losing the chance to get Pollard but the risk is worth the reward. IMO

I'm sure you are aware of this.

This is just a guess on my part as to Smithiaks thinking but it's obvious they are unhappy with the S position or they wouldn't have put in a claim on A.Smith.

The Pencil Neck

09-07-2009, 11:47 PM

Smithiak are probably waiting until after week 1 to sign Pollard.

Salaries aren't garunteed after week 1.

They risk losing the chance to get Pollard but the risk is worth the reward. IMO

I'm sure you are aware of this.

This is just a guess on my part as to Smithiaks thinking but it's obvious they are unhappy with the S position or they wouldn't have put in a claim on A.Smith.

I was a little surprised that we didn't make some move on a DT. And i was slightly surprised we went after a safety. Sure, we all think that the safety position needs work but it's never seemed like a priority to the team.

dalemurphy

09-07-2009, 11:57 PM

I was a little surprised that we didn't make some move on a DT. And i was slightly surprised we went after a safety. Sure, we all think that the safety position needs work but it's never seemed like a priority to the team.

I'm actually feeling pretty good about Deljuan Robinson and Cody lined up next to each other on 3rd and 1. With Dunta's return and Diles play WLB, I think the only glaring issue on defense right now is our SS play and FS play while/if Wilson is out. I was hoping that we could get some help at safety. I'm really not looking forward to Barber starting, based on everything I've seen.

The other issue, I suppose, would be if the coaching staff continues to insist on Okoye playing 50 snaps a game.

steelbtexan

09-08-2009, 12:17 AM

I'm actually feeling pretty good about Deljuan Robinson and Cody lined up next to each other on 3rd and 1. With Dunta's return and Diles play WLB, I think the only glaring issue on defense right now is our SS play and FS play while/if Wilson is out. I was hoping that we could get some help at safety. I'm really not looking forward to Barber starting, based on everything I've seen.

The other issue, I suppose, would be if the coaching staff continues to insist on Okoye playing 50 snaps a game.

Agreed

I think Smithiak may sign Sands or S.Smith if the DT's dont do a good job against the Jets run game.

ChampionTexan

09-08-2009, 12:18 PM

Smithiak are probably waiting until after week 1 to sign Pollard.

Salaries aren't garunteed after week 1.

They risk losing the chance to get Pollard but the risk is worth the reward. IMO

I'd like to think that's true (I'd like to see us pick up Pollard), but the salary guarantee only applies to "Vested Veterans", and a "Vested Veteran" is one with four or more years of NFL service). Since 2008 was Pollard's 3rd NFL season, I don't believe his salary would be guaranteed for the full season if if the Texans had him on the week one active roster.

rmartin65

09-08-2009, 12:19 PM

I want us to pick up Danny Woodhead, who just got cut by the Jets. He is explosive, and would be a good 3rd stringer.

El Tejano

09-08-2009, 12:23 PM

Anyone pick up Emanuel Cook? Anyone know why he got cut in the first place?

badboy

09-08-2009, 12:40 PM

What do you guys think of the running back Ian Johnson? He was cut from the Vikings, he is a pretty big back and I think would be a good back if Chris Brown goes down with an injury.T90, I followed Ian last two season as he had a tremendous year 2006 avg 6.2 yds but not so good last year he played. I was very high on him being selected on my board at I think the 6th round. Unfortunately, I have trashed all my notes on him. He did have good size as you say but his last game on TV, he did nothing to help his cause and really disappointed me. He went to Vikes as FA.

As of now, I am satisfied with RBs on roster and Foster on PS.

badboy

09-08-2009, 12:42 PM

Man, there are some good players out there. I like Cedric Peerman but he doesn't bring anything that Moats doesn't.

Marcus McCauley really interests me. Bernard Pollard getting cut is a suprise, IIRC he was a rising star in KC under Gibbs, wonder how his coverage is.You are correct on Peerman. I had him on board at 5th for us but I have now seen more of Moats and he is just fine.

Brisco_County

09-08-2009, 04:14 PM

According to Rotowire, Darius Walker is on the Broncos practice squad.

Neither LaMont Jordan or Correll Buckhalter are known for their durability, so Walker could get a call from the Broncos -- and the corresponding pay raise -- at some point this season.

CloakNNNdagger

09-08-2009, 04:38 PM

Anyone pick up Emanuel Cook? Anyone know why he got cut in the first place?

I think he passed waivers and was placed on the Jets PS.

steelbtexan

09-08-2009, 06:41 PM

I think he passed waivers and was placed on the Jets PS.

Yes

He's on the Jets PS.

Hottoddie

09-08-2009, 08:38 PM

Never mind.

Brisco_County

09-11-2009, 07:08 PM

Andre Hall's been waived to make room for Dunta.

ObsiWan

09-11-2009, 07:14 PM

Andre Hall's been waived to make room for Dunta.

I thought, due to the late signee exemption that we had another week before we had to drop a player...??