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tooslow: I was just saying that shartley posted earlier and it was deleted. After I noticed that he had posted again (while I was working on mine) I edited it to omit the line that said he didn't end up posting at all.

Originally posted by Toxic Dave Thordic, I was selling overstock for a local store last year on ebay and was getting around 20 bux for crown points, there is a market for them obviously, and they do look pretty cool, but come on a superiour barrel? insanity.

Butter,

what's your beef with Smart parts? they've got one of the best markers available right now, the impulse it shoots awesome, and at half the price of it's comp. Their customer service is much better than it ever has been.

dave

Oh I have no problem with thier products, I belive the max flow is the best regulator out there, the impulse is one of the best bang for the buck markers, and the freak is really innovative. But ONLY because I have tried them. My beef isn't with thier products it's with thier marketing. I hate LIARS. Please, turbulance, spiral porting increasng range and accuracy come now!?!?! We all know that is physycally impossible. I guess you can say my pet peve is people who decieve people for thier own gain. I hate explaining to people over and over again that smart parts marketing is nothing more than a set of carefully crafted lies. It really turns me off... If they didnt lie so much maybe I would have an impulse with a max flow right now.

Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

Butterfingers, have you seen the new DYE catalogue? It states very plainly that porting has nothing to do with accuracy Nice to see them being honest. They are also a few snide shots at Smarts Parts in there...

Originally posted by manike Butterfingers, have you seen the new DYE catalogue? It states very plainly that porting has nothing to do with accuracy Nice to see them being honest. They are also a few snide shots at Smarts Parts in there...

manike

I didnt yet, im gonna have to pick one up. But, Im glad to see companies are coming clean.

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Neither is shooting small bore paint out of a large bore barrel
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originally posted by manike

Really? Mine works great (ask Jonneh hehehe) apart from when the occasional ball rolls out. That I hate!

manike

Based on my experience with PPS markers(Typhoons, Nasty Typhoon, Blazers, and an upgraded PGP) I'm going to have to agree with manike here. I've found that then will shoot anything well. Why? I don't know, but the barrels work. The bore is so big on their markers that you can shoot soup cans out of them!(Well almost at least. )

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I can see why'd you be turned off by that, their newer ads etc seem to be trying to shy away from that whole scene, but I guess I understand. The new dye catalogue is very nice, and there is some funny stuff in there. I like to see that paintball companies are puttting some money behind actual professional looking marketing, maybe the industry is getting somewhere.

Originally posted by Ityl If we are referring to firearms, then isn't closed bolt more accurate? lol

I know your joking but I've fired the M-16(closed bolt) and M-249 SAW(open bolt) and the only limiting factor with the Saw's accuracy is the lack of good sites. It will put rounds where you want them, assuming it has been well maintained of course.

DYE's marketing is fantastic. Apparently they just picked up the photographer from JT (I met him at the cup as we were going through the catalogue). And that guy is talented, probably the best photographer in paintball (after Dawn Mills hehehe).

Originally posted by AGD
The people with the puny brains literally canít see past the end of their barrels! Itís like having wheels without tires, milkshakes without whip cream, and women without lingerie. Sure they work without them BUT WAY BETTER with them!!

I found this part very funny.

Tom if you are serious about this have you looked at Crossfire's Ramrod Barrel. It takes your ideas to the extreme.

Originally posted by Thordic ... I use my 8" MM stock barrel very often, and REALLY like the performance. It shoots just as well as my 14" SP AA barrel.

I want one of those also, to carry on the field so I can swap barrels instead of squeegeeing. Three of my friends have mini mags and no one will give up their barrel. They shoot well, they are just a tad loud.

Originally posted by headcase
Based on my experience with PPS markers(Typhoons, Nasty Typhoon, Blazers, and an upgraded PGP) I'm going to have to agree with manike here. I've found that then will shoot anything well. Why? I don't know, but the barrels work. The bore is so big on their markers that you can shoot soup cans out of them!(Well almost at least. ) [/B]

My stroker (it is an annihilator conversion) shoots anything, and it is very accurate. Has a smaller barrel than my smart part progressive, by buddies dye something or other and the stock mini mag barrel.

Originally posted by hitech I want one of those also, to carry on the field so I can swap barrels instead of squeegeeing.

This is not usually allowed because swapping your barrel can and will change the velocity. This may take it over the allowed limit. Check with your field first before trying this. They may throw you off for cheating if it is not allowed. It is NEVER allowed in tournies.

This is not usually allowed because swapping your barrel can and will change the velocity. This may take it over the allowed limit. Check with your field first before trying this. They may throw you off for cheating if it is not allowed. It is NEVER allowed in tournies.

Yes it would. A barrel that looks the same will not necessarily fire at the same velocity. It may have a larger or smaller bore which can affect velocity.

Everywhere I have ever known does not allow you to do it. I guess anywhere that allows you to carry multiple guns would let you do it (big games, scenarios etc.), but you would need to chrono your gun with both barrels and have it set to a velocity with the fastest one... It would never be ok under any circumstances in a tourny.

Originally posted by manike This is not usually allowed...Check with your field first before trying this. They may throw you off for cheating if it is not allowed. It is NEVER allowed in tournies.
manike

My field allows it. And yes, you need to chrono both. And you are correct, it isn't allowed in tournies. By buddy tried for years to change Jim Lively's mind on that one. After all, how long does it take to chrono two "quick release" barrels?

If Tom comes out and says "this shoots better, and it costs $20", I'm halfway to buying it. If Tom comes out and says "this shoots better and I'll show you the evidence, and it costs $20" I'll buy two. Quick test please - or show previously garnered results. Or at least tell me you have scientific evidence from a barrel Vs. barrel test. Please. At $20 I want to beleive you.

everyones in an uproar

I think Tom is such a neat guy this is to funny. Although he might be serious. Think about it why else would he ship tapered barrells with crown point tips on RT Pro's and E-mag's. I've heard these were good all around barrells. Maybe a little loud, but for $20 how can you go wrong. $20 out of your pocket and the added support for AGD, and the barrell for you so you can see for yourself. Excellent Marketing Technique, I'd like to know how many he has sold already.

See I look at this like som of the others. Its only 20 dollars. If the barrel isn't what I expected it will be on the for sale block or put in the "box o' stuff" in my basement. If TK has gone insane or being held hostage by evil elves, I figure I can give it a try.