Originally posted by JPD82
Very interesting indeed. Me and my sisters boyfriend saw 12 black triangles! flying really slow and low over my parents house. They had orange, green,
red and white lights. I couldn't belive it. My sister spoted a few of them trough the livingroom window while waching T.V. This happend just one week
ago. We called the police, and a few minutes later we saw police cars driving by really fast without any lights on at all. Oh, and all this happend in
Uppsala, Sweden. I took many fotos but my digital cam wouldn't capture much. I have one or two pic though where you can see some lights very well. It
took place in the middle of the night.

Whoa!! I literally dropped my jaw when reading this, as I'm not only from Sweden, but Umea as well. This is really interesting to me as It's
somewhat local, and that I've seen what's probably something simular not too long ago. JPD82, I've already send you a private message, or "U2U"
as they're called here, please read it so that we may discuss this some more.

Originally posted by Netchicken
Why bother making a black silent craft that moves quietly then putting blazing lights on it making it look like a christmas tree?

Either there is something VERY illogical about the "designers" of the machine, or its a wonderful setup for a hoax.

Afterall if you are going to ruin the stealth effect by having blazing lights then they you may as well sell advertising space for CocaCola, and have
it float around cities like a giant blimp.

The entire concept is too illogical for reality. Why has no one ever addressed the lights issue before?

My current theory sortof covers that. That is that the UFOs often to always use a sorts of optical camouflage to conceal themselfes. What I saw
though, had spots of lights "leaking" from the camouflage 'patch' in the sky, leading one to believe that it's probably an energy consuming
technique that is probably turned off at times when it's either not needed (like in JPD82 s case, it was dark), or when you simply need to conserve
power. Look into my older posts for a more detailed description on how I came up with this theory.

Drexon, with all respect at your experience, these lights are not "leaking", they are blazing down, like stage lights.

You couldn't get any more obvious if you stuck a lighted christmas tree on top and played Jingle Bells loudly.

So what are they?

They arn't navigation lights, afterall who would they want to see them if they are meant to be ""stealth".

They arn't lights for visual identification. If they have the technology to make this equipement then then they can also make night sensors.

Are they engine exhaust ports? If they were they would be coverd, or diffused. No sence in having stealth if you can SEE the craft. Maybe the
hyperdimensional warp drives glow like that in space, but here?

Maybe they are the strong lights that the aliens stand in to give that neat movie effect? Nope, thats hollywood, not reality.

Are they transporter beams? Nope this isn't an episode from Star trek.

I give up, I can't think of any LOGICAL reason to make a huge silent black machine that has blazing lights seen for miles.

You misunderstood me there. What I meant was that the lights I saw, on 'my' optically camouflaged craft, was leaking from the camouflage system that
was in action. The lights weren't strong though, more like the strength of star light than the extreme versions you talk about. But let's face
facts. And by face I mean realize, realize that the extreme cases you speak of are more of an anomalie than a well established truth.

Are they engine exhaust ports? If they were they would be coverd, or diffused.

Here's where it gets real interesting. Why have supposedly (by you) flood lights to call for attention, when in my case they're trying to cover them
up? The obvious answer is that they're needed, probably for propulsion too. You said 'diffuse', well it just so happened that one of the lights I
saw on 'my' UFO was diffused, by the camouflage system I shortly described above, as is my belief. I'm sorta tired now (4:38 AM) and I'm going to
bed, but needless to say I've more or less destroyed whatever you were trying to say in this thread, and before you answer to this post, read about
my sighting so that you know what you're up against. Nighty~.

Kelleher said, the analysis indicates that deployment of Flying Triangles is open, not covert, and involves low-flying, brightly lit aircraft
routinely deployed over populated areas including cities and Interstate highways.

“However, I cannot say whether these are U.S. Air Force aircraft. We simply don't know,” Kelleher told SPACE.com . “But it does not appear to
be consistent with the covert patterns of deployment we saw with the F-117 and B-2 prior to their acknowledgement. This is open, even brazen,” he
stated.

The lights are there to make them seen. But that in itself is illogical, why not have the in the open during the day then? Why not display them openly
and get the kudos for them?

The database-driven study of the Flying Triangle shows the following patterns:

-- Sightings take place near cities and on Interstate highways
-- They are seen at low altitude in plain sight of eyewitnesses
-- They fly at extremely low speed or hover in plain sight of eyewitnesses
-- The vehicles sometime fly with easily noticeable bright lights -- either blinding white lights, or have “bright disco lights” that usually
flash combinations of red, green or blue.

The NIDS study emphasizes that the flying of these vehicles may be more in harmony with an attempt to display or to be noticed. There appears to be
little or no attempt to hide. That finding has led to a modification of an earlier NIDS hypothesis that the Triangles are covertly deployed DoD
aircraft.

While it is too early to dismiss the previously published NIDS correlation between Triangle sightings and a subset of U.S. Air Force Bases, the
apparent association with centers of population may point away from a covert program. “Rather, it is consistent with routine and open deployment of
an advanced aircraft,” the NIDS study concludes.

It does seem a particularly dumb way to advertise new technology. There are so many better ways to release information, this stalking around in the
dark, senario doesn't make sence either.

Unless the techbnology is not so extreme that once people learn you can do that type of technology then other nations will try and copy it. But
keeping them semi hidden then other nations can't study it enough to work out how to make it.

Netchicken , I agree that the lights don't make sense but who knows. The F117 and B2 have lights that they don't use in stealth. I agree that doesnt
make sense but its not enough to completely discredit the whole thing IMO.

JPD82 , PLEASE post those pics even if you think they look crappy. You story is pretty interesting and I would love to hear more and see pics as I'm
sure many others would too.

I’m pretty sure it’s a pic of a TV/computer screen, if you look there are two different forms of illumination on the image. You have to lights
coming from the bottom of the ship, but there is also a large one coming down from the top of the image that is not affecting anything in the image,
because the way this looks I would guess it’s glare on the screen and the guy just cropped down the picture so only a little is shown. Also if you
look at the light in the front of the ship you can see a wired shape that don’t seem to be affected by the light, this and what looks like a face
in the left side of the wing are reflections on the screen. Cool pic non the less and I got to kill a few minutes in Photoshop.

Originally posted by Netchicken
Why bother making a black silent craft that moves quietly then putting blazing lights on it making it look like a christmas tree?

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The entire concept is too illogical for reality. Why has no one ever addressed the lights issue before?

Unless the lights are not actual 'light'?
They could be achieving all sorts of operations other than just pure illumination as we know light to be used for?

Can't say i've ever seen a triangle like these but i can imagine light being used for more than just illuminating objects by a species that
understands light way beyond our knowledge of it.

That being said, i don't think the original picture is of a UFO anyway. Looks CGI to me.

i think you make a great point. the "light" could be used for a number of purposes that aren't presently known in scientific circles. anything
from exotic propulsion to......lol who knows.

i just don't think its very responsible to dismiss these objects as hoaxes when there have been HUNDREDS of sightings around the world of similar
objects...there is ample eyewitness evidence that these objects are not fakes put out by pranksters...the question remains however, as to WHAT they
are exactly.

Originally posted by DJDOHBOY
The photo doesn't look edited, but if it is it has been done by a pro!
but there is nothing to say that the triangle shape has to be an exact triangle, it actually seems more likely to be more realistic if there not
straight lines.

just my 2p

Looking at the pic it doesn't look like a fake picture but if it's not a UFO then it may be a picture of a miniture submarine underwater near some
seaweeds.

Yeah it looks like trees but look at some of these images i included and think about it for a second .

Well I myself belive in ufos and ET's and ofcourse top secret projects.

But another thing about the pic in question, it looks like an oil painting maybe that explains the extra glare , reflection !!!!!

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