Im just trying to figure out who exactly are all the lazy, tree hugging, welfare recieveing, dont want a job liberals?

As for the environmentalist. The college of the Atlantic in Maine and the lovely federal agency NMFS has enuff to last a life time.

3 Yeats ago there was a POSSIBLE sighting of a rare whale in Maine waters. Next thing we knew all Maine fisherman had to concert all there rope to a sinking variety because the hippies felt our float rope MIGHT pose a danger to whales.

It cost an average of 100g for EACH fisherman to switch over. Many Fisherman just folded and gave up. Also as a result of the rope we each loose about 20g worth of traps every year. The rope lays on bottom and chaffed thru.

To date no whale has been seen. However a number of familys suffered greatly as a result of the "animal over man' mind set. The economic impact to main from lost tax revenues was and is astronomical. I forgot to mention they only gave us a year to do this.

That's just ONE OF MANY examples I can sight. I could tell you about the vernal pools but its the same idea as just described except the whales are salamanders. The fisherman are loggers and the impact was even worse

i thought about Maine but not sure there are any employment opportunities for me there.

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As for the environmentalist. The college of the Atlantic in Maine and the lovely federal agency NMFS has enuff to last a life time.

3 Yeats ago there was a POSSIBLE sighting of a rare whale in Maine waters. Next thing we knew all Maine fisherman had to concert all there rope to a sinking variety because the hippies felt our float rope MIGHT pose a danger to whales.

It cost an average of 100g for EACH fisherman to switch over. Many Fisherman just folded and gave up. Also as a result of the rope we each loose about 20g worth of traps every year. The rope lays on bottom and chaffed thru.

To date no whale has been seen. However a number of familys suffered greatly as a result of the "animal over man' mind set. The economic impact to main from lost tax revenues was and is astronomical. I forgot to mention they only gave us a year to do this.

That's just ONE OF MANY examples I can sight. I could tell you about the vernal pools but its the same idea as just described except the whales are salamanders. The fisherman are loggers and the impact was even worse

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I can understand your position is there any kind of repeal process that can be started?

Grandstanders. Happened in 2004 as well. Willing to bet it's happened at every election.

Good call - I'm in Texas right now and we are on that list. EVERYONE I talk to thinks this is the most foolish idea that could ever be put out there. It's just a few people who are pissed about the elections. LOL We even have a city (El Paso) who wants to break from Texas and become a part of New Mexico.

I imagine the vast majority of people signing these petitions know full well that their state will not seccede. It's just a way to tell Washington the people are fed up.

You know, I think a lot of the people signing them may actually believe there is a chance that it may happen, and are sitting at home and work talking about it, spouting off all kinds support info they've learned from the web somewhere, or legitimately learned through their own experiences, whatever....and are going to be traumatically disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm picturing the same mentality as the Occupy people, who believe they are going to change corporations because they are demonstrating some kind of unified opposition and are willing to cry over it and give stupid interviews.

Granted, I don't think all of them are like this, but I seriously think a lot of them are.

Good call - I'm in Texas right now and we are on that list. EVERYONE I talk to thinks this is the most foolish idea that could ever be put out there. It's just a few people who are pissed about the elections. LOL We even have a city (El Paso) who wants to break from Texas and become a part of New Mexico.

I support annexing El Paso to whoever will take it, that place is a shit hole

Read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. I'm about a third into it and it addresses this very same societal downfall. The people who are successful just stop working because they get penalized. Anyone showing the least amount of personal pride is subject to ridicule and sanctions. The book was written in the 50's so it's a little language outdated but refreshing to read. It's a biggin though, over 1000 pages, 7" by 10" with the smallest type you can imagine. She did a great job getting the point across of what socialism really does to a people.

Great book i have only made it about 350 pages it is such a slow read but so good

FYI: Atlas Shrugged is a movie. Part 2 was just released recently. Never read the book, couldn't get into it. Don't care for the movies because they're snoozers. At least the first one, I've attempted to watch it three different times. All three I've fallen asleep less than an hour into it.

You know, I think a lot of the people signing them may actually believe there is a chance that it may happen, and are sitting at home and work talking about it, spouting off all kinds support info they've learned from the web somewhere, or legitimately learned through their own experiences, whatever....and are going to be traumatically disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm picturing the same mentality as the Occupy people, who believe they are going to change corporations because they are demonstrating some kind of unified opposition and are willing to cry over it and give stupid interviews.

Granted, I don't think all of them are like this, but I seriously think a lot of them are.

Maybe I have too much faith in people.

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Great book i have only made it about 350 pages it is such a slow read but so good