@Jinbeifan1: Bambietta has two different kinds of explosions as shown when she hit Komamura with the first ones to break his armor, Bambi clearly did not use the same kind of explosion, also she used her AoE move, she did not use the same technique on Shinji, her explosives are hax, once again you are lowballing to get your point across. Komamura doesn't just survive his initial attacks he survives all of them. Zaraki was cutting Gremmy up easily before using shikai, it you guys would actually get off the Komamura bias you would know he has more than enough power to harm Gremmy with the attack power shown opposed to Gremmy's durability. Gremmy did not take anything, once Kenpachi used Shikai he was slicing Gremmy clean in half, he simply had duplicates to take his place. Komamura was scaled to be one of the strongest physical captains with a strength class of 1.46 million tons pre skip: http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/sajin-komamuras-strength-calc-294208/ Gremmy has no real durability to scale from as Zaraki was easily hacking him apart, there is nothing to suggest Komamura cna't one shot him, Gremmy will also exhaust all his energy leaving him even weaker trying to take him out. Seriously, stop the lowballing and hate, Komamura takes this one, anyone who doesn't have straight us bias can see that.

@Jinbeifan1: You are willingly undermining a feat and lowballing to get your point across; potency>>AoE, Bambietta TRANSFORMED KOMAMURA INTO THE BOMB AND DETONATED HIM AND IT DID NOTHING. It's more like comparing a black hole(Bambietta' s bombs in this case) to a heavy press machine, with the press machine(Gremmy's meteor in this case) it may be able to flatten steel easily but it has a limit, a black hole on the other hand will crush you regardless of durability. Komamura's immortality bypasses all conventional means of attack, and yes being crushed and blown apart by a meteor is a conventional attack so it would have no affect on Komamura. Like really? Are we really going to argue that Gremmy can in anyway take care of Komamura who is indestructible for a full 20 minuets? Gremmy loses here, badly.

@Jinbeifan1: @DevilMayhem666: @taichokage: @XtremeRevolution55: @5th: @blackdemon: Komamura wrecks Gremmy like nothing. The thing is, people want Komamura to be considered a bad fighter, they don't want him beating high tiers because people are so used to hating on the guy. I have no idea why people are using him completely owning Bambietta as a flaw against him, you act like Bambietta was able to stall him at all or something. He just had a very short limit. Also, you guys are acting like Komamura would not have gotten the same result from ANY of the Sternritter shown thus far save Bach. Not a single Sternritter shown would have done better than Bambi, a top tier Sternritter by hype and feats, she one-shotted Shinji; who is a top tier vizard and senior captain, and her ability gets past most defenses, Bambi could have beaten most captains shown including Zaraki if she turned them into bombs and fought like she did against Komamura. It's like people try to use every accomplishment Komamura has as some sort of lowball display of weakness:

He completely pwns Po with his bare hands, shakes off his hits and then beats him at his own game and one-shots him in bankai= "Haha, Komamura NEEDED bankai against a fraccione," Blocks a vizard Tousen from stabbing Shinji while Komamura himself was hundreds of meters away= "Tousen is one of the weakest captains and Shinji would have dodged it himself," Komamura and Tousen fight Zaraki, Tousen had many chances to easily kill Zaraki but did not because of PIS and Komamura himself was not hurt from any of Zaraki's attacks while Zaraki himself was bleeding from the mouth after the initial shikai attacks= "Kenpachi pwned those two, Komamura is weak," After having his chest caved in by Tousen's release form's strongest attack proceeds to fight Aizen and take two of his bankai destroying attacks before losing conciousness, a feat no other cpatian could do captains near full health such as Kyoraku and Shinji were completely one-shotted= "Komamura was taken out effortlessly by Aizen, LOL!"

And we have now where Komamura used his new OP ability and people blame Komamura for the plot giving him a time limit, you people act like Bambietta was in any way responsible for Komamura reverting back to his form, in fact Komamura already displayed the ability to deflect Bambi's bombs without tanking them, but one again, Komamura hate reigns supreme and hardly anyone got that, instead the yonly saw that Bambi was alive and Komamura was rendered unable to fight, though it should be noted Bambi was not even able to move, Komamura hit her with her OWN attack, not his, if he had hit her with his bankai she would not be alive right now(Assuming she is since it was implied she waas going to die anyway). I mean some of you give freakin' Mayuri more credit than Komamura as a fighter completely disregarding his PIS induced fights of epic stupidity, let's not forget Zaraki's "Herp derp, a sword is stornger when you use two hands so I winz!!1!" I understand Komamura is not the most popular of captains because he is not hawt like Toshiro or Byakuya, or that he isn't a badass who can sustain fatal injuries and smile like Zaraki, but come on give the guy credit when credit is due. Rant over.

On point with the battle: Gremmy has absolutely nothing that can even slow Komamura down; he has no knowledge on his abilities, hes strongest ability was the meteor in which Komamura will watch comfortably, he has Galazy Room in which it wont even fit Komamura and he would easily crawl back out, and this is assuming Komamura is not an idiot like Zaraki and babble on and on once dealing a fatal blow. Gremmy was getting diced up by a heavily restrained Zaraki and would have died in a pool of his own blood, a strike from Komamura wont leave deep gashes, it will completely crush Gremmy. Komamura has a near half hour of being an unstoppable Juggernaut and people think Gremmy can somehow win win made up powers that fans created for him despite him clearly having limits to say the contrary. Unless Gremmy has a really cheap Vollidstand, Gremmy gets wrecked here quite easily. Stop the bias and actually look into the story a bit, stop looking at everything from a VS battle perspective and look at things from a narrative perspective.

@Zerogodlike said:

Gremmy wins not sure if komarus immortality strong enough to tank a country sized meteor.

He survived being physically transformed into a bomb and exploded and was perfectly fine, a meteor will do nothing to him, there was never an upper limit given for his immortality, he was the definition of indestructible for a short period of time. Komamura's whole theme is unmovable will, undying loyalty, and invincible courage (By his Squad's flower) his Dangai form fits perfectly with that motif and character idea.

Naruto is able to fight in BM mode for a long time and is quite a bit faster than the Bleach team, the only time he needed to charge a bijuubomb was when he fended off 5 other ones at once, other than that he can easily spam multi mountain busting bijuubombs, casual mountain busting was something only final Ichigo was able to do against Aizen, Vasto Lorde and Ulquiorra would be destroyed by such attacks.I have no idea why people use this fly into the air and spam kido, lanza, ect. when has anyone aside form Starrk done that? Not to mention Naruto has that whole thing with being able to read a person intent and whatnot, he could easily blast them out of the air, in fact the whole flying argument is only really effective against people that have no ranged attacks or anything. Not only do I not see a reason for the team to use such a strategy like that I also don't think it matters, at least on the ground they have terrain and such to block or make it harder to fire, but in the air and from the distance here, they are not only sitting ducks since I don't think from that distance that high up they could even see Naruto prepare his attack, not see him to accurately fire, the lanza has such poor accuracy, only Ichigo would be effective in that situation.

My two cents on the whole Asuma being weaker than part 1 characters thing is this: if that fight was to take place in the story I think Asuma would win but it would be more of a "You will surpass me the next fight" kinda thing. In a debate thread on the internet going by feats and such a lot of part 1 characters would win against simply because he was not used much. I mean look at it this way, Kurenai, a genjutsu expert was able to place Kisame under a genjutsu, as Kurohige pointed out Itachi broke them out of it, Kisame was clearly affected and struggling and he has shown no real genjutsu ability, however, he is still an S-rank ninja; if Sakura tried a genjutsu like that he would have no problem breaking it. Now here is where I'm going with this, during the chuunin exams Shikamaru, Sakura, and Shino were the only ones to fend off a low-level genjutsu that simply put the victims to sleep, if someone like Kurenai used the same kind of Genjutsu like she did on Kisame and Itachi on the genin she would no doubt take them all out. Now, I'm not sexist or anytihng but Asuma seemed like the more dominant one of the two, i mean comparing the Jounin in the fight with Kisame and Itachi I would say the pecking order would be: Kakashi>Gai>>>>Asuma>>Kurenai. Sasuke was pratically one-shotted by a single backhand from Itachi, Kurenai not only broke out of a genjutsu reversal by shrugged off a kick from him no problem, I think someone of Asuma's build should have been able to take a kick like that no problem, not to mention Sasuke was put under a less devastating or lethal genjutsu than Kurenai and Kakashi were. All in all however Asuma being>His students would clearly be a story thing rather than a actual debatable battle much like Naruto vs Kiba in part 1.

I remember when I was on the Lounge debating section some users were claiming Kenpachi would not be affected by As Nodt's powers due to his fear of not being able to fight being stronger than the fear of death or something crazy like that, still not as bad as thew hole Mask De Masculine being able to reitsu crush the fear... Ulquiorra wins this though, As Nodt didn't display too much in terms of speed or durability, he was able to use his darts to block attack from Renji but that's about it, Byakuya's shikai was able to cut him up and he had to steal his bankai before he used it, that was before his Royal Guard training so I don't think he can stand up to the kind of power or speed Ulqui-boy's got packin' even if his darts did work.

@CrosswindVortex: Lol, happiness and sunshine has nothing to do with it. Anyone with any sense could debate intelligently and not with insults. The fact is there are rules here and you are in complete violation, hence you being a waste, I say you should leave because you are plaguing this site. You have been nothing but cancer here, just look at the post here, more and more users are confirming that you are violating this site. if you wish to post with insults rather than actual debates then go to one of those sites, but you need to get off this site. There is also a difference between calling someone out in a debate and just blindly insulting and personally attacking someone. Grow up. If you were to break the rules anywhere in real life you would be punished justly, regardless of your bellyaching. You were banned once so just stop, you probably gonna be banned again anyway.

@CrosswindVortex: Down syndrome, insulting people like that again? I guess that illness applies to you since you can't seem to learn how to properly post. You're wast of bandwidth here. You were the one replying to Kurohige when he wasn't saying anything to you, if anyone is on someone's nut sack it's you. i'm just saying you need to be gone, you know this as well as I do. You are a worthless poster, and likely the worst. You're not a good troll, debater, or user on this site. But i'm sure you know full well your'e gonna be banned soon anyway.

@CrosswindVortex: You have never seen me post because you weren't here 3 years back when I came here. Not that is matters, you make this site terrible and you are what kills this site. You are truly the worthless one as somebody who contributes only trash should not stay here. I would rather be one who contributes nothing and keeps the site as is than somebody like yourself who contribute garbage and kills this site. You're a parasite in every sense of the word, you were banned once for good reason and had no reason to come back. i hope the next ban in an IP ban so you can post on sites like MvC who will stand for your garbage. You do nothing but insult the users and make horrible threads and even called this a dying site, you obviously don't want to be here so just leave, not like you aren't going to be banned soon anyway... again. What a child, you can't learn your lesson even what? 3 days after your ban?

@Saladking: @CrosswindVortex: Let him, he needs to be gone if he is gonna be like that. So far, all I have seen from this guy is spite threads and nothing but displeasure and asinine post from this guy. This site doe snot need people like him, if he wants to be like that he can go to the OBD and MvC or even Comicvine, just about anyone who tolerates such behavior. If he does not learn his lesson even a week after his ban is lifted then he is a lost cause on this site.