Comments on: Royals exercise 2014 option on James Shieldshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/31/royals-exercise-2014-option-on-james-shields/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 23:01:02 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: dan1111http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/31/royals-exercise-2014-option-on-james-shields/comment-page-1/#comment-607002
Fri, 01 Nov 2013 06:59:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-607002I agree that it was great to see a more-competitive Royals team, but they still finished five games out of a playoff spot. This is seen as success only because of how inept they have been in recent history.

It also was what most people expected, as Shields was not really enough to make them into a playoff-caliber team. They have one more chance next year, but they may have given up the future just to be decent now.

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Fri, 01 Nov 2013 06:53:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-607001I don’t think it is a short term disaster. But it clearly is a long-term disaster, and it is not even much of a short term win for KC. That is why I think the trade was so terrible. Yeah, Shields was the most productive player in the deal–but Myers produced 2 WAR in only half a season.

How much is the right to negotiate a contract extension really worth in trade? If Shields for some reason decides to sign with KC at a discount, then I agree it changes the calculus somewhat. But I would be surprised if he did that.

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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:33:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606889KC got exactly what they wanted from Shields, and he did make KC competitive to make the postseason.
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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:12:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606858The reason it was a bad deal for KC is the same regardless of Shields’ performance. Yes, they got very good production from him, but it was clear to everyone (except the KC FO, apparently) that Sheilds the team was not good enough for Shields to make them a true contender. Now, they have one more year of Shields and a giant hole in RF and they aren’t any closer to being competitive because they still are not good enough for Shields to be the difference between making or not making the playoffs. They’d still have Myers for 5 more years, which would have helped them potentially make the playoffs one day.
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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:57:49 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606848I go back and fourth on whether this was a good trade for the Royals. I guess that’s good, that means it’s neutral. Than means it was probably a “good” trade. Both teams got what they wanted…so far.
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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:54:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606843Trade is not over yet. Let’s see how the Royals do in his final year there.
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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:43:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606836It’s one of those trades where really both teams got what they wanted.
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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:06:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606807I can go either way on this trade. I totally understand KC fans being upset that they traded away Wil Myers, especially in light of his excellent season once he was called up right after memorial day (nearly a full season of play).

However, it was a lot of fun to watch the Royals’ season play out as they were still in the postseason hunt most of the way through September. This was in large part due to Shields giving them a solid outing nearly ever time he started. Ultimately, they should really make a play to sign Shields long term or semi-long term.

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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:40:02 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606777I’m not buying into your argument of a disastrous trade for KC on a short term basis. Shields clobbered both of the Tampa Bay pieces in WAR for 2013. KC’s only mistake was not sitting Davis down sooner. I think KC got exactly what they expected out of the deal. Shields was great, and he ate 229 innings.

Admittedly everyone thought it was a deal that worked out better for Tampa bay over the longer term. But if KC actually finds a way to sign Shields, it is not all that one-sided.

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Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:27:21 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=502488#comment-606762This trade looked bad from the start, but even in the first season Tampa Bay got more value (by WAR) at the major league level from Myers and Odorizzi than KC got from Shields and Davis.

This could end up being a blunder of nearly Kazmir-for-Zambrano proportions.