Many people are frustrated by the lack of information and what appears to be mulching the little bits we do know into agonizing over analysis.

Buck up. What you don’t see on these pages is our pressured back channel efforts to pry loose critical information that we believe will ultimately bring Justice For Jessica. Those efforts are synergetic with, and dependent upon, those who will rise on her behalf remaining vocal in their desire to be unrelenting; to be wolverine.

Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. To find the Truth in the Zimmerman case we faced significant foes, but also saw support from those who believe in the judicial system. That entire construct was based on massive, intentional and institutional lies. Lies the media were intentionally selling and promoting. Yet, truth prevailed.

To find the Truth in the Wilson/Brown case we faced significant foes, but also saw support from those who believe in the principles of the judiciary system. Again the media was the biggest enemy – and yet again, truth prevailed.

However, in this case to find Truth for Jessica we are facing foes from those who killed her, those associated beneficiaries of her death, and those to whom the Justice System -and the principles within the justice system- may represent a risk to them. But at least so far, the media is not our enemy. That’s a good thing.

Ultimately who stands for Truth on behalf of Jessica Lane Chambers ?

Her family has a vested interest in one version; her community has a vested interest in another version; law enforcement has a vested interest in another aspect/version; and the DA has yet another set of interests which run antithetical for Truth telling.

So who will stand for Jessica’s story, the truthful story?

If not you, then who?

Dunno about you, but I’d rather be on the side of the team who actually put that beautiful memorial together for someone because it was the right thing to do; the honorable, loving and decent thing. Those flowers, plants and memorial items do not just reflect Jessica – they reflect decency that we will not stand to see destroyed. Period.

With that in mind:

PoloiLiop and Sundaybu have something of interest to discuss. LJP expands and also believes this “is a BIG question that is being overlooked”. So Let’s look.

First To Establish The Backdrop – After much of my own analysis, research and digging deep into Jessica’s psychology –her Victimology profile– I am now of the considerably strong opinion that Jessica’s intention on that fateful night was to drive to Leah’s House, for support and affirmation.

The statement(s) shared by her mother of her days activity, the distance involved, the direction of travel, the time of day, Jessica’s inherent social isolation, the disposition of the prior events and how they relate toward Jessica; and importantly the relationship Jessica held with her mother, all point toward this distinct possibility.

Jessica also would not have told her mom Lisa, because essentially, from Jessicas’ mindset, to communicate such an intention would have been to convey a message toward Lisa that mom wasn’t good enough to fill her emotional need.

Imagine 19-year-old Jessica saying “mom, you’re not what I need right now“, and how from Jessica’s perspective, that statement would have carried various levels of guilt based on the situation, internal and projected.

Lisa, not for lack of desire – but for lack of ability, did not possess the inherent ability to provide what Jessica needed emotionally at that moment. Jessica needed the support only found in an environment lacking judgment, and those who are professionally trained to walk the precarious emotional tightrope as they listen, comfort and advise.

Despite her earnest efforts – Mom, Lisa, could not provide THAT type of support – – because within the core of her maternal sympathy Lisa held a natural disconnect created by years of considering Jessica the cause of her own negative outcomes. Jessica would have replayed all of those “I-Told-You-So’s” in her mind as she conversed with, or thought about conversing with, her mom.

….. So:

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WHO is the woman in the Blue and White Jacket, who waited at the counter WITH the “Striped Shirt Guy” and walked out right after him? IF she was waiting to make a purchase AFTER him, HOW could she leave so quickly, right behind him? Looks to me like she is WITH him. Who IS she? And just as important, what time is displayed by the CCTV system in this pic? Is it 6:23:53, 6:29:59, or somewhere between, like 6:28:58? It’shard to tell, because the bottom of the numerals are cut off in this view:

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And another thing, about these two people: They were (apparently) together IN the store, but (apparently) decided to separate when they LEFT the store. WHY? Were they in a hurry to leave, as soon as he finished pumping his gas? Did the “Blue+White Jacket Woman” hurry out to start the car, so they could leave as quickly as possible? They certainly seem to be walking quickly. As if they have to be ready to go on a moment’s notice.

568 Responses to Jessica Lane Chambers Day #17 – Discussion and Research Thread

The De’rrick Bibb’s home was in the direction Jessica was headed. If this football hopeful for Panola was pumped full of steroids in preparation to play Dec 5th but it got cancelled to Dec 7th, then he was trouble no matter how good his family was. I didn’t recognize the two photo of said Travion aka De’rrick Bibbs because one looks soft and the other testosterone driven. Athletes are mega aggressive in this state, and worst off if they cannot burn it off as in a cancelled game. I am to understand not the entire game was cancelled, however, not withstanding, these athletes are still in hyper drive. It might be very simple, Jessica said no after the party, and it was not appreciated. Her stance must have become very different after Leah house. This leaves out the entire Ferguson fury theory, but then again, steroids can put emotion and hate into overdrive. It’s possible he tried to molest her by hitting her over the head………..it snowballed after that. Maybe other participants joined in the fury, either during or after to protect Travo, their star athlete, Gang Disciple style.

Not that I think there’s any reason this guy should not be a candidate, but in a discussion earlier (besides his location), apparently, he & Miss Chambers broke up in 2013 & he had another girlfriend. According to her mom, she wasn’t dating anyone at all.

Or Jessica filled up on gas to watch his game on Dec 7th, the next day. When she turned down the gathering (wherever it was – outside or inside), the habitually compulsive liars bumming a cig told her Travo would be there at the party.

Look at the CCTV footage, does Jessica look like she is dressed to go to a party? Hardly. She was setup and lured to a location to be burned alive and the Gangster Disciples in Panola County are her murderers.

She had on polar fleece PJ bottoms, right? That, in and of itself, does not rule out going to a party, I guess, but it does seem funny garb for a party. Of course, “party” does not necessarily mean a planned, invitations and cocktails at 8:00 kind of event. It could have been an impromptu gathering of kids – a case of beer, some kids, a deserted parking lot = party.

You aren’t an Internet detective? You are researching on the ground in Panola? I always expect posters with “Christian” in their usernames to be kinder and more forgiving than the others because they choose to advertise it.

What’s nonsense? That she was wearing pj bottoms? That kids consider a party an impromptu gathering (having a young 20 something daughter I know this is true)? I’ve been following the research. I’m just suggesting her garb doesn’t necessarily rule out a “party” at her age. And who’s to say they did not “lure” her via an impromptu “party” invite?

http://www.usna.com/NC/GiveRSS.ashx?type=single&newsID=1884
This is who died. ED HERNDON . Died at home at his home in Silver Springs. November 26th 2014
at 90 years of age.***this is a working theory at this point. He is Kierra Holmes “step grandfather”
He was married twice.
” He is survived by Margaret “Peggy” McCamant Herndon; his first marriage was to the late Marianne G. Herndon.”
HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CASE!
I am trying to figure out who is related to who,
He apparently is also Tred Hines grandfath amd er as well as BrejuànByers??? So…. Brejuán and Kierra arem,step cousins? I dunno
Confusing!!!!

Duh! Kierra is Tred Hines wife!
Holmes is Derrick and Arick. They are related to Tred Hines…
Anyway, Keirra said she wasn’t going to the funeral. ODD Jessica was killed that night! Didn’t I read on Facebook they Turnt up? (Partied celebrated grandpas life)

When Jessica first left her moms place she might have indeed intended to go to Leahs house.

However, at some point there had to have been a change in plans. If Jessica had strictly wanted to go to Leahs then she would have simply driven straight there and then that would have been that.

At what point did another person get in the car with her? Did she pick someone up from the gas station? Did she go to a party and then leave with somebody? Did an ex boyfriend call her out of the blue and ask her to come pick him up? The answer could have easily been lots of different things.

My best guess is that Jessica willingly met with someone whom she thought she could trust but they harmed her. I am pretty confident that the injury to her head occurred outside of the car. Somebody knocked her out cold then drove her to the fire spot. Whoever did this already had the accerant with them and they knew exactly what they were going to do with it once they got there. And it is almost 100 percent certain that there was more than one person involved in setting the car on fire. Somebody had to drive jessicas vehicle and then at least one other person had to bring the getaway car.

Lastly, I am extremely intrigued by Jessicas cell phone. Why would the attacker bother to take the battery out of it and then throw it in a ditch? Why not let the cell phome burn up in the fire? Why not dump it in a lake?

This is just a wild guess, but maybe the perp was afraid that the phone could be tracked from the scene of the crime to wherever they disposed of it (if they did dispose of it)?

Maybe the perp knew that a phone that is turned off but has a battery in it can still be tracked, and he/she didn’t want to leave any clues as to the route they took to dispose of the phone. Maybe they are afraid of the phone being found for some reason.

Or maybe they kept the phone for some odd reason.

Maybe they dropped the phone, picked it up, but needed to get away before they could retrieve the battery (a car was approaching, and they didn’t want to linger, etc).

Are we actually sure that the battery is even from Jessica’s phone?

Maybe it is the perp’s phone, and he/she dropped it and lost the battery.

Maybe they were hoping to use the battery in their own phone, or sell it?

Not likely though.

It’s more probable that leaving the phone was an inadvertent mistake made by the perp. Unless the intent was to confuse investigators in some way, or send some kind of message to a person who would understand.

Just speculating…maybe someone (either the perp or an accomplice who Jessica trusted) asked to use Jessica’s phone at some point, and surreptitiously removed the battery so she couldn’t call for help.

Maybe the phone was deliberately left at the scene, but the perp or accomplice forgot that they still had the battery in their own pocket or wherever.

My understanding is both the phone and battery were found at the scene seperately on the ground. They had both. That is why by Sunday they were already calling on the last people in contact with her. Likely they took her phone after knocking her out, removed the battery to avoid pinging, brought it with them to the burn site, and either dropped it there after burning, or perhaps it was in the car with J. and fell out to the ground when she got out of the car on fire. I think you can only triangulate on a pinging phone where it actually IS at the time, not where it was when it made a call. The record available when a call is made or received is just which tower was closest and/or used for the call, and the signal strengh can give you some idea of the distance to the tower.

I wonder why they were “smart” enough to remove the battery, but not smart enough to destroy the phone, knowing all past call records would be on it. Tends to make me lean to the story of they set the car on fire, tossed in the phone onto J.s lap, and then she woke and both her and the phone came out of the car.

Maybe because the cell phone was thrown away during the altercation that preceded the burning? If that was the case, as things escalated, the perps may/ would have forgotten about the phone.
If that cellphone was hers (& not thrown away by someone completely unrelated), then Thank God! It’s probably one of the best pieces of evidence they have, although it’s probably circumstantial.

The cell phone that keeps getting mentioned, I always assumed the battery was taken out and tossed and the phone was found at the site of the fire. Is this correct? Have they recovered the battery? If so that would lead me to believe the battery was in the phone up until she reached the site of the fire. If that’s true they can tell where that phone had been prior correct????. The latest pics that were taken today still shows small pieces of the car still left at the site. ??

Or would Jess be regularly getting requests for rides to various places?

Maybe someone asked her for a ride and she agreed, since she knew the person. And then that person attacked or, or she was attacked upon driving the person to their destination (in which case, the person asking for the ride was probably an accomplice of the killer(s).

The comment about someone calling her “out of the blue” is interesting. Someone might have asked her to pick them up, whereupon she was attacked, or they went to the location where the crime occurred.

With regard to a getaway car, as far as I have read, there is no clear proof that there was one. It’s likely that there was, especially considering the damage to the back of Jess’s car.

But it’s also possible that the damage was caused by other means. Maybe the perps damaged the back of the car while operating it after attacking Jessica, or while backing into the spot where it was found on Herron Rd. Was paint from the car found on any trees, rocks, or that fence across the driveway?

Hopefully the police are looking into that.

It’s also possible that Jessica was in the car when something startled her, and she tried to reverse for some reason, and crashed the car by accident. She was a relatively new driver, right?

Perhaps she was lured somewhere and realized it was a trap and tried to put the car in reverse to back away, but either crashed into something, or was rammed by another vehicle.

That could have happened at another location, before the car was brought to the spot on Herron Rd where it was found.

I totally agree with your theory. I believe she was headed to Leah’s House too. She wouldn’t of needed clothes–the Shelter would have gotten her clothes. She got sidetracked. Maybe the person that called her asked her for help or to the party. I agree it was someone she trusted. I often wear flannel pajama bottoms to the grocery store and they look like flannel pants. I believe the person she met “lured” her there and assaulted her and took her car. The car seat was pushed back and Jessica wasn’t that tall. They had it very well planned.then they drove her to the crime scene and set her on fire. Not sure why they even left the phone there and threw the battery in the ditch. She had 2 cell phones so maybe they thought this phone wasn’t relevant. I agree there were several involved and a getaway vehicle. They probably had ppl looking out from both ways. Maybe a car was coming and they left quickly. They could of hit her car with a tire tool or sledge hammer to make it look like she had been hit by another car or ran her car off the road. I think it was ppl she knew and knowing she was writing a book sealed her fate. She would of exposed half the town so they shut her up. The other trees wouldn’t of burned since they had had 2.25 inches of rain. They could of used an accelerant on the tree too. Very sad and very well planned.

IMO Jessica was not going to Leahs house. The house is a residential facility for women with addiction problems. It is not a rehab and it is not a counselling center, they have no professional staff nor is it a shelter of any type for anyone off the street. It’s program is based completely on restoration of (a damaged) life thru Christ.
The women live there, they have to be drug/alcohol free before entering. They are drug tested and musts remain sober. They are supervised and locked in at night, they cannot come and go as they please.
It doesn’t appear to be affiliated with any 12 step programs as I had thought before. I doubt if Jessica was going there at 8ish on a Fri night. It appears she was no longer in their care for whatever reason. Could be she couldn’t stay clean but did find some faith in God from what she learned in her brief stay while there.
This place IMO would not be receiving outsiders after 8.
There is a lot of information we do not have so its anyone’s guess what actually happened to her. I sincerely hope the po po have more info that is not being released so they can catch who did this.

many groups use the processes of 12 steps combined with the identification with others suffering the same addictions or abuse in order to deal with their own shame, depression, obsessions, etc….Leah’s house pics show a lot of folding chairs like AA uses for group meetings. At any time of day or place, most AA meeting places are open for anyone to come and seek a little peace and relief from the outside insanity of their usual family, friends, places, and habits while trying to recover and gain some life changing behaviors. Narcotics Anonymous has the greatest issue with recovery, as most addicts have NO friends, family, or companions outside of the drug world, and that world is constantly attempting to prevent their leaving so they can sell them drugs, continue humiliation and abuse in the disguise of “friendship”….altho the 12 step programs use “sprirituality” to define a “higher power”…in a manner a release from the concept of most addicts that THEY are God, or at least THEY are responsible totally for the ills that befall them no matter what OTHERS might be doing to them….whereas most Christian operations use bible and God and Jesus’ love to provide a higher power notion, and some comfort from the horrors that fear and abuse have placed upon those attempting to get clean and sober and safe. I think Jessica, like most new AA members, found a safe place and like minded friends without any form of blaming or shaming going on…so, if she felt pressure of her home environment, she could have NEEDED a relief and a safe place among trustworthy folks with her same issues.

If LE has all the footage of the evening it is a simple determination as to whether DST was adjusted or not. In several of the videos, Hwy traffic can clearly be seen wizzing back & forth in the frontage of the store property.

We know ( or at least LE knows) when the tow truck got to M&M. It will certainly show on the footage, a large truck with car on bed, regardless of where it parked.
A simple comparision of that time stamp will end that puzzle.

And it wouldn’t be 6 pm on a Friday nite…….. Leah’s house is NOT an addiction recovery place. It is a place for young vunerable women in trouble who need to “hide”. Which is exactly what she used it for.

I totally agree! Denise Tutor reportedly has 4 kids. I am hoping she is already talking, but if not out of fear, I wish the reward money was more than now and enough to give her a fresh start and new identity in order to give those 4 kids a chance. IMO Auntie Charlotte Wilkerson, Teanna “Teapooh” Rudd, Sandy Rudd and Brejuan Byers are knee deep in this and I hope they are enjoying their last Christmas with their kid(s) today. I am hoping the police already know it is them responsible and just waiting for the DNA results to solidify their case. Praying for Jessica’s family and friends today.

A couple things I haven’t seen written yet. Jerrick Todd immediately blamed her dad. At first I thought he was just being a insert nasty word here. But it occurred to me what if in Jerricks eyes his father really did kill her? In other words once in a gang, you can’t leave the gang and you can’t write a book about it. What if Ben encouraged her to change her lifestyle? Then in Jerricks eyes, the gang didn’t do it, they were just doing what they had to do and in his eyes it was really Ben’s fault. Any indication Ben was supporting Jessica in changing her lifestye?
Secondly, I just noticed right after it happened Sandy Rudd posted on Facebook a story about a boy who told the truth to the grand jury in Ferguson and was burned to death.

I think that irrational black anger over Ferguson and NYC is being greatly underestimated by posters in its place withing the hierarchy of motivations to kill that gal (in the most heinous way possible). Behind considerations about her dad, for pete’s sake?

After what we have been witnessing lately, I would put it about on the same plane as gang behavior in terms of percentage probabilities

Not sure that I am following your point exactly, but I agree that it is very likely that this was simply a matter of Teapooh and others being angry over Fergurson and taking it out on Jessica. But why Jessica? Was she chosen at random? I think Jerricks comments about her dad along with what we know about her getting her act together is a reasonable explanation for why her. Remember Jerrick also posted write before the murder how important keeping a secret is. A lovers quarrel is a possibility, but I don’t think we have uncovered enough information to figure out who would have that much anger towards her and why? Because of how horrible this crime is people want to go to a crime of passion, but their is also the idea of sending a message. Like Ali said, if this can happen to her it can happen to anyone. I believe he knows who did it along with many others, but are scared to say. Look what Sandy posted right after they killed her. A story about a snitch being burned to death.

Say for a moment that certain group of individuals in Courtland decided to impulsively lash out against the law enforcement establishment, OK? Then exactly whom was available to them? A random deputy that might not be accessible for days. Or the daughter of a sheriff’s employee? Anybody else that I’m overlooking?

I’m not declaring that it went down that way, only that it has more probability that having one of the parents being involved, given what little evidence we know.

Also, I think that the schools in that area (South Panola HS, etc) need to be investigated to see if school officials are allowing the gangs to use the schools (and/or school organizations such as the cheer squad) as a “recruiting ground” for entrapping vulnerable white girls into prostitution and/or sex slavery by gang members.

Yes if you look at the horrific sex grooming cases out of Britain, they keep young young girls in prostitution. I do believe they are using Cheerleading camps, dance studios, fake tryouts for television shows or modeling and things of this sort to appeal to young girls and then trap them. I think they invite them to legitimate dances or parties with bands, etc. The gangs are getting into legitimate businesses to give them cover and respectability. I say the new branded GD is even sponsoring something with Shrinner’s hospital.
Gangster Disciples rebranded as United in Peace with Noble-Amber Ali, (Carl J. Smith, Jr.) leader http://www.unitedinpeaceinc.org

“Lovers quarrel” = Jessica not wanting to provide sexual favors to Mista’s drug customers any longer? Not unheard of to use women for such purposes. If it truly was blood in/blood out, as soon as Jessica was back in town, she may have been expected to continue business as usual. Resistance = disrespect & isn’t tolerated. Perhaps Mista forced the other women under his control to lure Jessica to the location For her to be dealt with. Random theory #947

I am not sure that the denizens of Courtland have ANY knowledge or interest outside of their own gang and drug and local issues and interests. More likely, they are only following Mississippi area police and crime activities. Cannot wish more education and intellectual capacity of this bunch of local yokels.

I thought the same about Jerrick blaming the dad. I mentioned a few days ago that I thought dad was the “snitch” and Jerrick/Erik/Derrick(?) is blaming dad because of something dad did or said which resulted in someone killing Jessica because of dad’s action. Therefore, Jerrick sees it as dad’s fault and can’t believe that dad doesn’t see it that way.

I read a post on J4J facebook page, maybe a week ago?, that a friend of Jessica’s was blaming mom for throwing Jessica out of the house. The friend also said Jessica “.was living in the yard”. And that grandma is the one that put/sent Jessica in Leah’s House. The poster also said that grandma was always nice to her, but she was mean to Jessica.

“Any indication Ben was supporting Jessica in changing her lifestyle?”

I think there was. Hadn’t he just bought the car for her? I’ve forgotten where I read it, but somewhere, it said that her dad had a problem with Miss Chambers dating outside of their race & her mom condoned it. If she had repudiated her gangbanger friends, it would certainly motivate her dad to reward her in some way & incite the anger of the ones she was moving away from. And of course, they would blame him, if that attitude was, indeed, true.

I think the young man in Ferguson you’re referring to is DeAndre Joshua. He was shot to death & found in his (?) burning car. According to a Southron blog I visit sometimes, he was a good kid & not a gangbanger.

I don’t see two people at the gas station. I think it’s a distortion of the camera. The shirts look almost identical, both have the same amount of white stripes. 3 maybe a fourth at the bottom. Stripes on the arm, dark color in between the stripes. We never see two different people on the camera with stripes do we? And the times line up for this to be the same guy right?

Maybe it’s a distortion of the camera, but the shirts do not look identical. On one shirt the width of the black space between the white stripes is about triple the width of the white stripe itself. On the other shirt the white and black appear as alternating stripes of equal width.

I do see what your saying, but my gut tells me it has something to do with the camera, some sort of optical illusion. I find that more believable than two African American men where wearing almost the identical stripped shirt filling up gas tanks at the same time, while never being in the same picture together. My guess is that on that camera in the dark the white stripes show up bigger for some reason.

Auntie Sha Sha, I have assumed that she is a friend of the family and said the thing about a party based on rumors she heard from the family or other friends. Is their any reason to believe that is not the case? Does she have any gang affiliation? Any bad blood with Jessica?
It’s hard for me to believe two gangs would join together to do this (Vice Lords and Disciples). And I see way more evidence that the disciples did this (Brejaun, Teapooh, Sandy, Jerrick). On the hand, maybe the gang war is being blown out of proportion. For example if you check Teapooh’s friends, she friends with a bunch of Mista’s. If Boone is a leader in the local Lords chapter and they are at war with the Disciples, why is his family friends with them?

Has anybody made an attempt to seek the police/court records for the case(s) that put Jessica into legal hot water? In order to see whether she made any enemies, etc? Whether it was really serious or not.

It might go a long way toward understanding the thoughts of her, her parents, her friends and her adversaries within that toxic little stew. As a group, we (including myself) have put a lot of energy into what proved to be less promising tangents. Now, it might be something that sundance referred to as backchannel … but I’m in the dark.

I don’t know how many times this has been said already, but once more….. Auntie Sha-Sha was one of athe very last people to speak with J. on the cell phone. She was a friend of hers, the family (mom), and lived across the street. We don’t know what she said to J. in that call, but presumedly something about a ‘party’ and ‘they’ got in an argument and took off with her, after her? She is the only one I know of who spoke about a party and a disagreement. She is also half-black, so probably is a go-between for the GD’s and young white-girls she befriends. She knows ALOT more than she has said.

maybe.. but i think she was followed from the gas station, she either was driven off the road by them or they jumped her somewhere knocked her out and 1 of them drove her car to the secluded herron rd location and set her and the car on fire and the guy got in the other car with another and drove off left her to die..EVIL TO THE CORE

maybe she never made it to batesville they somehow drove her off the road knocked her over the head and one of the perps drove her car to herron rd torched her and the car, jumped in the other car with the other guy or guys and drove off. i think she was followed by at least 2 people.

Psalm 27:13 (NKJV)
I would have lost heart, unless I had believed
That I would see the goodness of the Lord
In the land of the living.

Initially, I assumed this would be a straightforward case involving a personal vendetta. However, it may well be more complex than that. It will take time for a small law enforcement team to analyze the testimony of over 100 people. Praying for justice to roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

Let’s assume the conversation between Ali and Jessica is true…Then it becomes simple…Jessica didn’t seem upset or alarmed about where she was going and who she was meeting in her conversation with Ali. She purchsed more gas than usual. That could mean anything as simple as her buying something for 6 dollars and saying, “Let me just put the change from the 20 in the tank so i have gas for the week”…We are taking things that could have very simple explanations and perhaps making them into bigger things they are not….One thing seems for sure though..Wherever she was going, she didn’t let onto her mother where she was actually going number 1, and number 2, she was dressed very casually still in pajamas which leads me to believe wherever she was going, she wasn’t out for the night and intended to go back home..

I think that the mention of dinner was meant to buy only an innocent-sounding hour or so before she truly meant to go home. (She knew that, if she would be absent or party for untold hours, it might mean being booted out of her house, or some other serious reaction by her mom.)

So what would that mean in real terms? Getting cruddy pizza at M&M? Obviously not. A quickie with a male friend? A few hits of a substance? I can’t think of too many other explanations.

FLASH! Word has it in Washington, that Jessica may get her xmas present of justice, but a few days late. Look for that gang of thieves to get a nice new year’s present…The feds are going to roll up the entire gang (rumor has it). Merry Xmas, Jessica.

SUNDANCE, I am not tech savvy and I don’t have a computer at home (using phone) so I can’t do this, but – someone should list the players and their aka’s and thought to be connection with JLChambers. This should be on a separate reference page that is easily accessed. If someone is motivated, maybe a graph format as well as written, on that page, since people have different comprehension pathways in their brains. This is the first I have posted but have been reading along since about day 5 when I found this site. I very much like knowing people care to push for JLC’s truth. What I have noticed happens is that even frequent posters get confused about what they already know.

I think more can be tweezed from the Mister and Tutor interview. Tutor’s reaction when Mister describes his relationship with Jessica strikes me as born from jealousy. If Jessica believed she was in danger from GDs, what were her options for protection in that town? Do we know who choked her the week before? If she was in fear for her life, as I suspect, that fear was not irrational. Who in that town was strong enough to protect her? And what would be the price for that kind of protection, even if ultimately unsuccessful? I wish the media would publish the complete unedited interviews with Wilkerson, Mister and Tutor.

I need some help on this theory because I can’t find the video or statement to back it up.

After Jessica fills up the car with gas, she gets into her car and sits there for a little while before driving off. Right after she pulls away, a white car slowly takes off behind her. There is video out there of this scene – I just can’t find it. Also, in a thread days/weeks ago, someone said the car had an Iowa license plate.

Jessica’s former boyfriend, Bryan Rudd, lives in Iowa. Could it have been him in the white car with the Iowa plates? However, I think I heard he was in jail that night — but is that correct??? .

Could Auntie Sha Sha, Teapooh and Sandy/Charlotte have conspired with Bryan and some of his ‘friends’ to ‘teach’ Jessica a lesson then “something went wrong”?

Don’t really see enough of the plate to determine what State. But at 2:94 mark, you can clearly see Jessica continue to drive off & that White car (late model Chevy?) come to a complete stop at the lot.

Still, I am thinking they were going to follow her. When she starts out, they start out but then stop. She gets a little further and they start out again but when her brake lights come on they stop again.

Yes, you are right, VegasGuy. I can’t see the type of license plate on the white car. But I swear, I remember someone saying in a thread or interview that the car had Iowa plates. Initially, I thought that was odd until . . . I learned that Bryan Rudd lives in Iowa.

There is a clue to whether the vehiicles are in motion or are stopped. It is the high tail light mounted above the rear passenger shelf. It comes on automatically when the brake is applied.

As Jessica pulls off, she taps the brake, the light comes on. She releases the brake & continues to the Hwy. Again, the jight comes on. When clear, she proceeds & the light goes off.

Now watch the White car in the same time frame. Its’ light is off, then comes on & stays on. The White car proceeds to the entry area & the light stays on. It comes to a stop & the light stays on, even as Jessicas light goes off, indicating she is now in forward motion with no brake applied. So White car has brake applied & stops at entrance.

IMO, the White car parks & does not follow her off the lot (at least at that point)

Thank you to the hardy gum shoes here, SD for keeping the thread alive and the admins for sorting through our desperate efforts sometimes repeating ourselves. This is the only thread I’m following this holiday due to time constraints because JLC touched my heart not because she was perfect………but because she was perfect and become so lost ensconced in the after-effects of this horrid Obama administration. Jessica outlines in detail and brings into personal clarity the violent and tyrannical transformation Barry wanted. He’s so proud of his Audacity. You’ll pay for this Barry and all you DIMICRATS/RINOS who hide behind the Black KU KLAX KLAN. Because the KKK is here and 200 years hence from black slavery — is unacceptable, so help us God let us stamp any form of racism out in America. This is the END OF BARRY’S REVENGE.

The picture of the Christmas tree on Jessica’s grave (@OPAnonymous2014) is sad to see. The wrapped presents, especially. I’m sure her loved ones had already bought presents for her when she was killed. I maybe would have donated those, but I guess they wanted her to “have” them.

We have people running around everywhere here, but I wanted to see if Jess got a Christmas miracle. I was thinking about her.

0Hour1 appears to have been shutdown again. Not sure when that happened, but I checked it before I went to bed and this tweet make me laugh out loud: “I have to go take a TeaPooh now. Brb.” Terribly immature but very funny.

To Jessica’s Killers love trumps evil. I hope you enjoy Christmas with your loved ones today and know this God is coming for YOU!

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

27 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.”

LORD God, I pray that Your Justice would fall upon those evil people who did this to Jessica.

Jessica is safe with you now, and no longer has to fear anything.

Her murderers? Let’s just say that our God is a Just God, and He will not let this horrific act against one of His flock go unanswered.

Matthew 18:6 :
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

He was back up as of 20 mins ago. Who keeps getting him shut down? (it looks like everything on his page clears & starts over. hmmm)
Burning women (MANY women & young girls) alive is the ultimate misogyny (not to mention the culture of “my btch, rape, ho”) *Where are the “democrats”? Where are the “feminists”? Where are their demands for justice? Crickets
The communist left agitates, promotes, condones, & enables this culture of destruction & death against women. They are hypocrites & LIARS.

Yeah, they do. Pretty much every day. I follow one of their forums (that’s all I can stand, once or twice a day) & I’m constantly astonished that white people (& men) are still even taking part. It seems like it’s starting to shred, though. Once those people are fully away & the fog (of lies) clears, MAYbe there will be hope for them. Godspeed!

I can’t believe the hatred that issues out of these homo sapiens. Whites, normal people who happen to be Black, Hispanic, or Asian, Christians, Jews, Southerners, republicans/ conservatives or libertarians- they despise everyone that is either their designated “enemy” or cannot be exploited toward their sick, destructive agendas.

It’s good that they’ve dropped the “tolerance” & “equality” veils. Now, anyone can see what they’re really about.

Progressivism was never about tolerance or equality. They just hide behind those concept in order to carry out their goal of destroying traditional Christian society, and replacing it with cultural Marxism.

Agreed, the left always rebrands something they can’t sell honestly in it’s old package.. Progressivism is just rebranding of marxism, eugenics has been rebranded as Planned Parenthood, abortion became choice, and welfare, public assistance.

Thank you for sharing. The gate is open, do you know who owns the land? Just curious. I see the Vivint security sign. That’s the system I use, it supports security cameras with great quality. You can have it set up to record constantly or record upon movement. The recordings can be downloaded onto a hard drive. I wonder if they have cameras and if they do, where are they.

hasn’t the vidoe CCTV stuff been analyzed and beaten to death here now. Nothing to learn about the murder from this tape…just pure speculation. just beginning to look like protest marching with the video held up…..Video Up, Dont Guess.

Very enlightening and they are only talking about a legitimate amount of sales per day, not the added bonus business like Fried Chicken delivery! I bet some of these guys wish they were with Ali on a plane to Yemen. I assume that is what he is doing in NY, heading out of the way so he can’t be picked up. Sounds like maybe they are getting ready to round up and someone, not saying it is Obama, but someone tipped Ali off and he gets to skate. And all the rest get to take the fall for all the activity, not just Jessica’s murder. A new owner will show up in a a couple of months and things will go back to normal asap.

Maybe Ali converted to Christianity and is celebrating Christmas in Buffalo…probably not. I always thought he would have a career in Yemen making beheading video for ISIS. Just hope he leaves. The M&M is too hot. His father will try to dump it but in that location it’ll never cool off. I see a bulldozer and an early demise for the First Stop. Poor little Courtland will have to head north to gas up.

The man in thick striped top is in this video at (:58 )mark, bottom right, its quick so pause and dub through with your finger. I think its Ali, because he is standing behind the counter of the store, I believe he is helping a man in a blue coat, you can see a little blue, like an arm maybe.

I had thought that there were 2 guys in stripped shirts that evening Sat Dec 6th and remember seeing Ali in such a shirt; it was prison fashion wear to him apparently. Anyway we see the guy in the striped shirt disappear and reappear at the pump while he appears to be filling a gas can. I figured that that could be Ali himself and it was Ali who edited himself out of the video so as not to be implicated in Jess’ demise.

Eskie Mom, don’t know if you realized this yet but Bryan Rudd (don’t remember aka’s) was boyfriend she broke up with 2 years ago,after living with his family for 2 years (?)
Travo (tavian, ke’eric, etc. Aka’s) was current rumored bf. Their whole family has seemed sorta clean (compared to the others) although he had some Facebook pics that were questionable.

I’m confused then. Thank you for clearing that up. So Bryan Rudd is the one that she broke up with in 2013. & Bryan Rudd is living in Iowa (that part, I knew).

Someone on one of the threads posted that Tavion Bibbs was going to a college either ~30 miles or 30 minutes away, one way. They closed their comment humorously that they doubted he was (something- something commuter) with a thirst for knowledge. That would make him available on the weekends, especially if he wasn’t playing football.

Is there a search function anywhere on the site. I am looking for something and have scrolled till my eyes hurt.

I am looking for the quotes from the fire chief.

I think they are in print, (should be links) or I haven’t found the video they are on. I Have the clarion interview, and other where he is standing outside the forestation (channel 5 I think) any others

One is where the fire chief arrived and says he put his coat on her. print or video

the other is the last press interview or other, where Champion says that a paramedic put his coat on her. I think this was this week and we discussed sterile sheets etc. Nana posted about firetrucks carry sterile sheets for burn victims. This I know was in print, and I think it was the last presser that Campion did, and I don’t know the date. Darby did the last one and he didn’t say it I think, who knows

I think what you’re looking for is Day #16 (Dec 23rd) in older comments, near the bottom.
Diane posted a link, then she, you, & Nana discussed the sheets.
This is a second reply. Apparently, the first is in spam or lost in the ether.

Is Tavion Bibbs affiliated with the GD or VL? Was he poaching on VL property with Jessica?
If George Boone claimed Jessica as his property he might have used her to make his point of ownership to others who might be thinking of leaving. Jessica might have been warning the fire rescue of a danger to someone she believed was in danger.not naming a killer.

I wanted to say also….that Jessica * had changed since leaving Leah’s house, but her surroundings hadn’t changed. People just expected her to be the same old Jessica who partied with them and possibly did other things with them too. But *jessica had changed on the insidefrom being at Leah’s house. She was thrust back into the cruel world of gangs and drugs and fought to resist that. It probably wasn’t easy to live in her shies after that very brave decision to straighten her life out.

See olderglory’s post above.
Jessica commented on Twitter regarding a “Release Party” at a worship center barely 10 minutes from Courtland.
The “party” was on Saturday Dec 6 at 6:30.
Was this the “going someplace” she mentioned to Ali?
Was this the “party” that Auntie Sha Sha mentioned?
Oh, and also on Twitter is a guy named Mister.

Lessee … Jessica was going to a Christian youth center to hear some live music and interact with a better crowd. So she heads south and does one of two things: 1. arrives at the ministry center, only to be lured away by someone not that interested in Christianity or the performer in question. And so she calls her mom to stall for more time. or 2. gets waylaid in-between, either through force or promises of a more interesting evening.

If it’s 1., then the perp is someone who also initially went to check out a Christian singer. (Did Tavian dig that kind of entertainment?) Maybe carrying a can of gas in the trunk.

If it’s 2., then we essentially are back where we have been since Day One, still not sure about what was going through J’s mind when leaving home.

I agree with you.
And if it’s proven that she did attend, or even intended to attend but never made it to, the event being held at a Family Worship Center I believe that is yet more evidence to back up the ”straightening out her life’ theory.
She was a good kid. She should’ve been afforded the opportunity to atone for her missteps.
This is an absolutely tragic story, and it eats at me more every day.

That is not a theory. Fact is that the light of God touched this very troubled girl and she was turning away from her former life of drugs and involvement with various gang members from the Gangster Disciples and possibly the Vice Lords.

She was killed I to silence her as she had told a few friends that she was going to write a book about her life to help others from going down that dark road.

Yes it is a fact that Jessica was involved with members of the Gangster Disciples and it is a fact that she had a drug problem and that she was seeking help for this at Leah’s House.

Leah’s House Mission : Our mission is to provide adult women with a 12 month Biblical foundation for approaching problems. Our discipleship program teaches women to look to the Word of God for answers.

The power God through Christ, can convert darkness, the darkness of drug addiction and Gang life into the soul saving light of Christ. I do believe that Jessica experienced this glorious light and was in the process of a new direction in her life.

Facebook for the youth center at the HFWC.https://www.facebook.com/the.refuge25
I went through their photos. No Jessica, but it was heartwarming to see someone in that community is trying to extend a Christian hand to the young people there.

I wouldn’t discount anything at this point. Religion and faith runs right through these communities. Jessica was at Leah’s House whose mission is faith and salvation based, Tavelle Bibbs Brother of (Travo Aka Erik Bibbs) believed the most recent boyfriend of Jessica is an Evangelist Preacher. At this point I would stay open minded to anything.

Strange how things play, It was a full moon that night. 100 percent full, 99 percent night before.
J/S too.

One of the frequent tricks of car jackers in this area and surely in Courtland. Is to hit a car to make it seem like an accident. Then when the victim stops to check out the damage, then wham, that is when it happens.

I also have been thinking how could the damage happen in the rear panel on the passenger side.

Those roads are two lane can’t really do a pit, you would have to leave the pavement, not realistic.

What you could do though, Is the perps go slow, just enough to make you pass, and when they come around, bam a little tap as they pass on the left.. A whoops didn’t see you. Jessica stops, gets out, and its done. And the getaway is there.

This was not a carjacking, it was a SETUP by those she trusted who are members of a very violent gang, the ‘Gangster Disciples’. They run that town, Courtland, and also Batesville. That is why in the beginning of the investigation the Sheriff and DA stayed completely away from mentioning any Gang connection to her murder.

You’re being literal. Car jacks happen and they take the victim to, and someTimes they leave them and just rob. Anyway, they said it went to far,.

the point is to explain how the dent was placed into the car. Well the car jacking scenario is how they get a victim and a car.

Did they not take the car. Or are saying they lured her to that spot. If they lured how did the dent happen. While trying to escape. No sign of that at the site, NONE. and that melted rear headlight. Look down in those photos I posted, see that large black blob. Looks like melted plastic rear taillight assembly.