Losing an illusion or gaining a truth?

As you all know, I enjoy philosophy very much and I am always speculating just exactly what makes the universe work and why.

Lately I have been thinking of False hoods and truths. I have been thinking about the times in my life I have found little tib bits of truth and I
have also been thinking about the times in which I was able to open my mind and see past certain falsehoods.

After a while I started thinking about which comes with more wisdom Losing an illusion/falsehood or gaining a truth?

I am thinking right now that there is more "wisdom" in losing an illusion because doing so allows to you also recognize the truths that were hiding
behind the illusion.

So I am wondering what you all think? Which is better. losing a falsehood or gaining a truth?

Do you think my reasoning for my choosing "losing an illusion" is sound?

For that matter, how do each of you go about finding truths or losing illusions? Think back to a time when you have discovered a truth or saw through
an illusion? How did you go about doing so?

Did it open a whole new box of possibilities for you? Did it just make things more confusing?

If you lose an illusion, there is the possibility of finding an endless amount of truth and possibly even casting away more illusions with that
knowledge gained. It could in fact be an endless cycle of 'uncovering'.

With gaining truth, there is only that knowledge.. without the possibility of more to come.

In sort, yes.. I agree.

Thank you for posting this. It gives me something to think about further.

Thank you for posting this. It gives me something to think about further.

Very good. You are quite welcome. I enjoy giving people something to think about. The ability to think is what makes humans so special. Well it is one
of the many but it is a big one, so why not use that tool huh?

Now I wonder, is finding all the false hoods the key to finding the truth? I imagine it is, because behind every false hoold is where the truth is
hiding.

SO how does one go about finding all the false hoods that many of us have been embedded with our whole lives? How do we go about figuring out what is
the lie and what is the truth?

Is it more of a matter of time or is there a special effort we have to make? I mean, there was a time when it was "fact" that the world was flat,
but now we know better after several hundred years. We are able to prove scientifically that the earth is round...

So how do we do it and what is so special about some people who just seem to be privy to the truth? Plato, Socrates and even religios figures like the
buddha? Are they just more in touch with the universe than most or is anybody just as capable as they are when it comes to philosophy?

Its a question of perception and in which angle you look at it. There is no fixed truth, but the illusion of right and wrong, true and false etc.
So when you say you have found truth, you just found another illusion, as someone else already stated, its an endless cycle of "uncovering".
At the end it comes down to the actual observer, you, and what you make of the illusion.

Anything can be true, you decide, but in order to progress one has to question truths, and like most of the time, the more you question a "truth"
the more it becomes false.

If I'm understanding you right (and there's a good chance I'm not) then they're one and the same. Every illusion thrown off reveals a nugget of
truth; every nugget of truth holds (in itself or in conjunction with other nuggets) the key to throwing off an illusion.

Truth is always and forever self-evident, obvious, ever-present, right in front of ones nose. So not only learning, gaining, arriving-at stuff is a
valid way of finding truth but also de-learning, removing, disullusionment is a valid way to see the truth that is actually already there, already
obvious.

Originally posted by Rivyolie
If I'm understanding you right (and there's a good chance I'm not) then they're one and the same. Every illusion thrown off reveals a nugget of
truth; every nugget of truth holds (in itself or in conjunction with other nuggets) the key to throwing off an illusion.

Yes I can see where you are getting at here too. I almost put in my OP that possibility of them mabye being equal with one another.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Recently Ive started experimenting with seeing it this way:

Truth is always and forever self-evident, obvious, ever-present, right in front of ones nose. So not only learning, gaining, arriving-at stuff is a
valid way of finding truth but also de-learning, removing, disullusionment is a valid way to see the truth that is actually already there, already
obvious.

Ok that makes sense and for what ever reason that did not quite cross my mind in that way. They are both in a sense just to different ways of reaching
the same goal, which is truth.

Losing the illusions uncovers all the mess which in the end reveals the truth. Finding the truth I believe invloves searching through the illusions as
well.

So perhaps losing an illusion truly is the same as finding a truth in the sense that either way leads you to truth.

Your post has helped me understand even better, what rivyolie was saying.

Yes but meanwhile I slightly prefer the "loosing an illusion" way of going about it...after spending decades thinking I have to learn, gain, learn,
gain, etc. You seem to be coming into a similar mood.

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