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I give you that. Putin is not as bad as Stalin. But then - who is? Or was?

Off the top pf your head, can you name three rulers worse than Stalin?

I'd say Hitler might probably be a tie. They both ruthlessly invaded and subdued neighbouring nations, opressed minorities and killed of critics. Hitler's blatant racism might seem to give him an edge, but Stalin's constant purging of those nearest him makes him look really scary too. He even let his own son die in a prison camp. After Trotsky was murdered with an ice pick in Mexico, Stalin was the only surviving member of the revolutionary committee of 1917, and he had helped kill off most of the others himself... Today many even believe he may have poisoned Lenin.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/healt ... ctors.html

Anyway, in the comparisson to Hitler, one most remember that as badass as Adolf was, Joseph managed to kill several times as many people as he did. I've heard figures of 75 million for Joe compared to roughly 15 million for Adolf.

A personal opinion is that Pol Pot might make the top of the list when it comes to pure evil. He completely destroyed his own country, killed off millions of people for odd reasons like wearing glasses or speaking a foreign language, and then used their corpses as fertilizer. It's hard to top that. But he never had the same global impact as the other two.

Anyways, imho we should not measure Putin against previous Russian dictators, but against the standards of modern democracy, and when graded on that scale I don't think he's doing very well.

ukcanuck wrote:I guess here in the Godless West the last place one would go to make a political statement is a church, they are flippin empty...I guess you could go and interrupt a gay pride parade to slag Steven Harper....Oh wait, no one would notice there either... Shit where would one go to upset Harper and the the good folk of Canada's sensibilities ??

Isn't it obvious? Centre ice of a hockey stadium during an NHL game. Storm the ice as the teams are getting ready for face off.

call me Adolph Stalin but they should have known better than try to harm the sanctity of a church...these are places of worship and held dearly to some peoples hearts and they should not have their values tramped on by a group of stupid women...and they should have taken their masks off...how can you be proud of what you have done while hiding your face doing it...

I give you that. Putin is not as bad as Stalin. But then - who is? Or was?

Off the top pf your head, can you name three rulers worse than Stalin?

I'd say Hitler might probably be a tie. They both ruthlessly invaded and subdued neighbouring nations, opressed minorities and killed of critics. Hitler's blatant racism might seem to give him an edge, but Stalin's constant purging of those nearest him makes him look really scary too. He even let his own son die in a prison camp. After Trotsky was murdered with an ice pick in Mexico, Stalin was the only surviving member of the revolutionary committee of 1917, and he had helped kill off most of the others himself... Today many even believe he may have poisoned Lenin.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/healt ... ctors.html

Anyway, in the comparisson to Hitler, one most remember that as badass as Adolf was, Joseph managed to kill several times as many people as he did. I've heard figures of 75 million for Joe compared to roughly 15 million for Adolf.

A personal opinion is that Pol Pot might make the top of the list when it comes to pure evil. He completely destroyed his own country, killed off millions of people for odd reasons like wearing glasses or speaking a foreign language, and then used their corpses as fertilizer. It's hard to top that. But he never had the same global impact as the other two.

Anyways, imho we should not measure Putin against previous Russian dictators, but against the standards of modern democracy, and when graded on that scale I don't think he's doing very well.

At least Stalin was a fantastic quote machine

- The Death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic

- The only real power comes out of a long rifle

- Death is the solution to all problems - no man, no problem

- Gratitude is a sickness suffered by dogs

- Everyone imposes his own systems as far as his army can reach

- I trust not one, not even myself

- we don't let them have ideas, why would we let them have guns

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

I give you that. Putin is not as bad as Stalin. But then - who is? Or was?

Off the top pf your head, can you name three rulers worse than Stalin?

Nope can't beat Stalin unless you factor in the total deaths of World War Two (60 million) which can basically all be pinned on old uncle Addie...check out the list of the top ten greatest killers of manhttp://listverse.com/2010/11/02/10-grea ... rs-of-man/starting with a Finn sniper and ending with father time...