Are you a "prepper"?

Do you know about news and stuff like that about how the economy is going down, that we could have a really tough "police state", and that all in all it can have the advantages of living off the grid, away from cities and other much populated areas? :)

Oh Alex Jones...

And the doom and gloom...

People who are stocking food up, and planning to be self-sufficient, gather here!!! ~grins

Yeah, I do happen to have tiny worries about little (and important) details, like if W/we'll get everything in time, or stay fucked with all that money and work invested, missing something very basic one couldn't live without...

Though of course wise preparing is a key to get things done right... ^^

Myself I find it essential to provide everything for O/our family to get along well in life, whether something happens or not, better to be sure than fucked when it happens...

Preppin? Or just livin on smilin? Do you take steps for such a future or do you just hope things will get better again?

We always prep a bit, because we live on the coast and yearly storms cause power outages, so we always have canned goods, batteries, a generator...etc. Not "end of the world, off the grid" stuff...but enough to get us by for a week...which HAS happened and WILL happen, living on an Atlantic Shore island in summer. If there is a hurricane coming our way, however, we are OUTTA HERE.

People should always be prepared, really, but who has the time and money to be remembering and replenishing stuff like one should? Life gets in the way.

Well yeah, depends on the lifestyle...

Of course it can mean it too that ones gives up things vs the advantages to be prepared, and spend time with it, even if it means that instead of going out to have fun you spend your free time browsing the net and learn, and spend your money on storable food instead of let's say something you don't need as much but don't really wish to miss...

Though you are lucky if you enjoy doing research, learning, getting prepared and being happy with simple things...

My only weakness is toys, my I gotta have everything for any purpose before anything happened, so am extremely active with my pointearnings here because it's like making the giftcards what I would otherwise wanna spend per month for pleasure items not needed for serious preparing at all... ~lol

And of course there are small things to get one started easy, like buying larger quantities at the stores, so even if the stores got empty one day you would have 3 months worth of food for example... (Though it is said that one should have at least 6 months worth of food, but rather a yearful...)
And have some plants goin, which are easy to grow, tomatoes are a blessing in my opinion because of the ridiculously easy way to make more and more of them, potatoes, sometimes keeping some seedy stuff to dry out and plant a potful for a new plant, water them a lil bit everyday, have a quick look at them to check out if they are all ok, one can have chickens for eggs if you live at such an area, not to mention that you save money if you grow your own stuff, which makes more money to buy anything else needed or for fun...

Not to mention that you won't have to go to the store everyday, just get some stuff from your storage place, and get to cooking or eating right away, my I wouldn't give it for anything in the world, sometimes W/we go out only once a month (mostly 2-3 times otherwise), do shopping or buy little stuff, it is just cozy as hell!!! ~lol

If you wanna do it smart you will move somewhere where there aren't too many people around, like cities and large or smaller towns, people can go fuckin nuts if let's say they didn't get their retirement anymore, just small shit can happen, and next day you see people out in the streets breaking shit, and burning stuff, and killing each other for food cause the stores got all wiped clean after 2 days of looting, if it was the too high gas prices then such a lot of food just wouldn't arrive into the stores and supermarkets from other places, and of course people aren't as selfsustaining anymore, so they wouldn't know where in the world to get food and water from...

So you wanna move into a smaller town then with a tight community, or away from everything, and close to such a lil town, or make your own community! ~lol

We always prep a bit, because we live on the coast and yearly storms cause power outages, so we always have canned goods, batteries, a generator...etc. Not "end of the world, off the grid" stuff...but enough to get us by for a week...which
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We always prep a bit, because we live on the coast and yearly storms cause power outages, so we always have canned goods, batteries, a generator...etc. Not "end of the world, off the grid" stuff...but enough to get us by for a week...which HAS happened and WILL happen, living on an Atlantic Shore island in summer. If there is a hurricane coming our way, however, we are OUTTA HERE.

Exactly... And it's a good idea to have an RV too for that case, or two, or an RV with a trailer, yeah the two together I guess is best, so everybody could have enough space, and you would have everything needed to live just fine until returning home or getting settled in elsewhere...

Oh goodness, me and my boyfriend... Part of our fantasies (we're so lucky we found eachother) involve bomb shelters, scarce food and water, and emergency kits! Right now I only have a small emergency kit (knives, canopeners, matches, about $80 cash, batteries, tampons (come on, 'gals), ointments, and medications. But when I get my own place, lemmi tell ya...

I do find it a good thing to stimulate some off sexual topic discussions here, because toy lovers are effected by tuff things in the world too, so it is good to know how to go with prepping for days when you couldn't get as many pleasure items maybe! ~grins

Prepping for the zombie apocalypse. It's going to happen, folks. You heard it here first.

~LOL!!!

Btw, it has some truth to it!

I finally found some info, on where the zombie thing comes from, and if it was possible to make such a thing happen...

In Africa it isn't only a legend, some people go so far that they use an herbal mixture (or something similar as I remember) what puts you into the state of death, and they can just shock you into life again, as you aren't really dead, it's just the effect of the poison, and you can be all K.O. and you are really like a zombie slave, not much brain function, just a living shell, and you can be used to do some things for yer new, evil Master... (Really, if anyone is interested I can look the link up, it is a real and friggin freaky scientific fact!!! :S:S:S )

It would also be possible to make it happen, if one could mix rabies with some kind of flue, so rabid people would be running around killing each other!
There was even a movie with the topic, like a zombie movie just the "fast zombies", it was fucking frightening to me, I mean to imagine how easily it could happen if anyone ever tried to manage it, cause rabies are real, and da fast zombies... OH GOD SAVE US FROM THEM!!! ~yowls trembling

Oh goodness, me and my boyfriend... Part of our fantasies (we're so lucky we found eachother) involve bomb shelters, scarce food and water, and emergency kits! Right now I only have a small emergency kit (knives, canopeners, matches, about
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Oh goodness, me and my boyfriend... Part of our fantasies (we're so lucky we found eachother) involve bomb shelters, scarce food and water, and emergency kits! Right now I only have a small emergency kit (knives, canopeners, matches, about $80 cash, batteries, tampons (come on, 'gals), ointments, and medications. But when I get my own place, lemmi tell ya...

Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhh hardcoooooooooore, I LOVE IT, the first time in my life ever to hear about such a fantasy, then you are the truly blessed when it comes to prepping, what a lovely thing to hear about!!!

For U/us it is a lot of fun too, no fetish of it but my, feels like building O/our F/future L/life together, get a remote place, set it up for a good, effective and cozy life, be sure W/we have everything, and it is useful for survival too! It's like a big journey to be sure that you provide everything for the people you love, I couldn't imagine a better way of life, it's such so exciting and such a lot of fun!!! ~wags tail happily

IU have food and water saved up only because i live in an area prone to blizzards and it is winter. Not for the end of the world. i think that if its the end of the world why do i want to live? If it goes by chemicals well all the health problens would probably drive you insane. so live and let live.

My inlaws moved to the middle of nowhere for Y2k and have been living there ever since, with a full stockpile of food, weapons, electricity, etc. So I know where I am headed in the case of a major disaster.

It just reminds me of Y2K. People going nutty and than nothing happening.

I agree. My brother is currently on a tangent about something like this only its government conspiracy crap. I worry about him...
Honestly, there isn't much a lot of people can even do if something were to happen. So many people live paycheck to paycheck that being able to afford to stockpile things, let alone get off grid aren't realities. For people in such a position, that makes worrying about such things pointless (aside from causing health issues).
For those who can afford to, I think being prepared for emergencies is always a good thing, but there is a point where it can become a bit obsessive and more like hoarding. It also depends on your living space, some don't have the room to store anything.

IU have food and water saved up only because i live in an area prone to blizzards and it is winter. Not for the end of the world. i think that if its the end of the world why do i want to live? If it goes by chemicals well all the health problens
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IU have food and water saved up only because i live in an area prone to blizzards and it is winter. Not for the end of the world. i think that if its the end of the world why do i want to live? If it goes by chemicals well all the health problens would probably drive you insane. so live and let live.

Oh oh not end of the world I mean (am not like the believers that stuff will really end), I mean end of the world as we know it!

Well, there are things what could result mass shortages, because practically most of the countries are set up in the way that transporting provides the great selection and supplies of food and other stuff...

I suggest you watch a few documentaries about such things, or read some articles, that will let you know what things could result in such an economical chaos for a while!

I save up a little here and there, I try to live minimally to begin with... Have some fruit/veggies/herbs in the garden already, and would like to grow more.

Yepyeppp, that's how it starts, especially for folks who wonder how in the world they could afford such a thing!

There are so many things we think we "NEED", but when you start to have new habits in your life you can see that actually you don't need all the crap the world tries to make you buy and buy and just buy...

I haven't heard of Alex, but am interested in becoming more self-sufficient. It's a long term goal, in my case. Where I live disaster readiness is a bigger priority as we are living on a fault line. I have a book to recommend that's about self sufficiency when it comes to food. It's called "Food Security for the Faint of Heart" by Robin Wheeler. Robin is really entertaining to read and she has some great hints for people about food preservation, water preservation, etc.

I find it to be an extremely fun thing, and it still surprises my Master Who finds as much pleasure in it that whenever W/we talk about it and make headways I am of course happy for the headways made, but the whole process is even more fun, creating all those plans in your mind, going through possibilities, and having all those good ideas you wouldn't have by yourself probably - and when some more is achieved it feels like you are like a just married young couple creating and building up your very own life! I love it!!! ^^

My inlaws moved to the middle of nowhere for Y2k and have been living there ever since, with a full stockpile of food, weapons, electricity, etc. So I know where I am headed in the case of a major disaster.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee et!!! That's how W/we're gonna do it too! Moving there and getting more plants is left to do, some critters, and to start to build the giiiiiiiiiiiiant greenhouse! ^^

already preped for a general emergencies. the raving lunatics make me sad it's like promising a great toy and then no toy. -_- I'd like our goverment system to go back to a more community style. I believe it takes a village to raise a child and to survie the storms.

I'm part of the gamer, bi, art community soooo I would be amused by us getting togather and creating our own town. >:F I'm in charge of crafting and nursing. Some of my booby trap ideas are approved of.

I agree. My brother is currently on a tangent about something like this only its government conspiracy crap. I worry about him...Honestly, there isn't much a lot of people can even do if something were to happen. So many people live paycheck
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I agree. My brother is currently on a tangent about something like this only its government conspiracy crap. I worry about him...Honestly, there isn't much a lot of people can even do if something were to happen. So many people live paycheck to paycheck that being able to afford to stockpile things, let alone get off grid aren't realities. For people in such a position, that makes worrying about such things pointless (aside from causing health issues). For those who can afford to, I think being prepared for emergencies is always a good thing, but there is a point where it can become a bit obsessive and more like hoarding. It also depends on your living space, some don't have the room to store anything.

Well yeah, three of the listed things are somewhat of the case here too...

I listen to Alex Jones so much that I freak out a lot too, so my Master always has to calm me down that he tells many things right but some of them aren't going to be like he describes them, or they aren't gonna happen overNight, so W/we have time to get prepared for everything... (I am just worried that something will happen with my internet and I won't be able to get more toys anymore, and I still have a LOT to get!!! )

Second case is the hoarding part, W/we don't do it blissfully, but I could imagine myself stocking up on a lot of food and extra parts for repairing stuff what W/we would never need maybe... My philosophy in prepping is it's better to have everything for any case, Master is more realistic than that... ^^

Space... W/we live in a large wonderfully remodeled RV, and have a large horse trailer as a mobile food storage for now, and W/we have realized that even if W/we could stock up on more food than lately W/we wouldn't have enough space anymore... (W/we still have some of course, but I wonder if it would be enough for a year, or even 6 months, like how it's good to have stocked up food... Would definitely be enough for months and months and months though, but as not everything can be stored long W/we would have to miss out on some good food, and eat less versatile, which I would be ok with for survival of course... ^^)

As I noticed so many people think that they couldn't afford to start to do such things, and I just wonder seeing what money they spend on stuff they REALLY DON'T NEED!

Let's start with it that it's better to manage to live ok somehow instead of getting into debt... No wonder people can't afford stuff...

Next important part is that you don't eat and drink stuff from stores as much as possible, because even our most basic food is full of things which aren't good for your heath at all, no matter what the "smart people" say, even scientists cover things up for the big companies... Better to take the extra time and grow as much food on your own as possible, and make your own bread and things like that, at least you know that it has only flour, water and other things in it! If you can't afford it then you can just sell your home and move to another state, get a small house, save on rent with it, with the money you save (not debt!!!) you get an RV for the adults, one or two trailers for the kids, as much space as needed, as they can be set up so good that everybody will be able to have PLENTY of privacy... (And private RV spots are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than any other rents, especially in some states...) You may have to leave precious friends, but oh well, you can stay in touch with them online, and one always loses and makes good friends anyway...

There are also other ridiculous things, how much people spend on entertainment, going out, machines, tv, cell phones, totally silly magazines... If you have to go to work everyday, using your car, you can do as many things as humanly possible in an as short drive as possible, instead of driving to pick some stuff up or get errands done going for an extra drive...

Other things like saving on electricity and spending time with some books instead can help in the process, and if you don't go to buy food so often you can grow some fresh spices, vegetables and fruits even inside your own home...

It is also a fantastic help if you buy food and other things in big stores made for restaurants, as there you can buy large quantities of food for an extremely low price...

And all in all, there are so many ways one can save money on, sometimes it just means that you buy something less fancy instead of your most favorite, and that you don't hang on your cell all buried into the screen, so you need no data for a touch screen phone, you can access the net on your desktop computer or laptop anyway...

One more important thing is that you take life easy enough, and try not to get chained into slavery to pay your debt, working your ass off at the same place for life... And that you try to learn an occupation what is really needed for the economy, instead of going for something with the big bucks, and what if you can't find a job because so many people are doing it anyway... You wanna learn as many things as possible, not only occupations, not to mention that such skills can be used in a job, and to make occasional money too, so you wanna be good at as many things as possible, and various workplaces teach you even more... Time to move on? You just get your stuff and go, there is home and work anywhere, that's why an RV is the best way to start to get prepared, so you can go to many places and get to know what would be the best spot to get settled in, and start to build up your very own space... You can have electricity with solar energy what you managed to afford with your saved up money, you can start to have critters like chickens and goats and fish, a big greenhouse to provide you all the food you need, have guns and other weapons and ammo to protect yourselves, and anybody up to kill some poor creatures in your family can get more food, big animals if possible, so you can smoke the meat to store it, learn about how to keep things cold in hot areas underground, you can also pickle and can a lot of the vegetables and fruits you grow, and fish and crawdads, rabbits mean an extremely easy and constant food source, goats giving milk (they can eat more stuff than cows, and you have to milk them only once a day), chickens having eggs, so you have food, you have electricity, running water fixed up with a good enough water storage solution, what else do you need, good computers and laptops and DVDs and/or hard drives to store all your books, movies, music and other stuff, your solar system will provide enough juice for them, and of course being busy with plants and critters you will have other activities anyway to keep you busy, not having to use such a lot of electricity in your free time... Oh, I almost forgot, you wanna have a wood stove cause burnable stuff happens to be almost anywhere, and solar garden spotlights are a very good alternative when you are worried about seeing stuff inside your home... And there are always people somewhere near enough, so you can trade the stuff you grow and things you make in your projects of woodwork and other ways to get other needed things for yourselves... One more thing, honey bees and stevia... So you won't miss sugar, not to mention stevia has no calories in it at all and it's 4 times stronger than sugar as I remember, and if you have no tobacco to grow you can smoke mullein, it is good for your lungs on the top of that, and with no coffee to drink every single day you will get used to not needing it anymore, and herbal teas are always cool stuff to savor...

Another important thing, you HAVE TO study herbs, so if there is no doctor nearby you won't have any or too many problems... There is an herb for everything anyway, if not more herbs, which is more of a case, not to mention that not eating crap you are fed with nowadays and moving enough everyday by working will make you healthy and balanced as hell, so you will have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less chance to need a doctor! Not to mention that in the United States they feed you with pills to keep you sick, instead of curing you, they barely even know much about curing things, so it will be your duty to know enough about health and sicknesses and diseases... But it's still better than being trapped into the fake "modern health industry"... ^^

Just a few tips, stuff can be figured out when someone changes the mindset, being open-minded enough... ^^

I haven't heard of Alex, but am interested in becoming more self-sufficient. It's a long term goal, in my case. Where I live disaster readiness is a bigger priority as we are living on a fault line. I have a book to recommend that's about
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I haven't heard of Alex, but am interested in becoming more self-sufficient. It's a long term goal, in my case. Where I live disaster readiness is a bigger priority as we are living on a fault line. I have a book to recommend that's about self sufficiency when it comes to food. It's called "Food Security for the Faint of Heart" by Robin Wheeler. Robin is really entertaining to read and she has some great hints for people about food preservation, water preservation, etc.

Hey hun, thank you, looked up and intended to get right away!!! What a cool comment, thank you!!!

already preped for a general emergencies. the raving lunatics make me sad it's like promising a great toy and then no toy. -_- I'd like our goverment system to go back to a more community style. I believe it takes a village to raise a child
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already preped for a general emergencies. the raving lunatics make me sad it's like promising a great toy and then no toy. -_- I'd like our goverment system to go back to a more community style. I believe it takes a village to raise a child and to survie the storms.

I'm part of the gamer, bi, art community soooo I would be amused by us getting togather and creating our own town. >:F I'm in charge of crafting and nursing. Some of my booby trap ideas are approved of.

Oh holy cows, I don't even dare to imagine!!! ~lol

I agree with the community system btw, see for example how the "white world" conquered what was outside of it, they did everything to kill the cultural roots of tribal societies and community based dynamics... Just flock up into the line to the others and obey like a good lil sheep... Baaaaaaaaaaah, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh ! Instead of letting you have your own space with your own people, the way you want it, cause the fact that you wanna be different doesn't mean that you are a bad person, with bad choices...

I would definitely move nearby if there was an EF community let's say, and be active in stuff sometimes! Would be totally awesome!!! ^^

I think that learning first aid skills and having reliable access to your own medicines is important when preparing for disaster. So many people will be injured if/when something big happens that if you can take care of yourself and your community, all the better.

You can actually can get in trouble with the law for hoarding food if you have too long. Something to think about.

I haven't heard anything about us turning into a police state, and I honestly don't think that's going to happen. They need to start paying cops better wages and benefits before that happens.

As for the economy, it's slowly getting better. Not like full employment for everyone, but people are starting to get jobs again, especially in the big city. Read what the Economist has to say; it's incredibly useful.

As for stocking food, it's not something I have the money or time to worry about. I need to get my college diploma and pay my rent before I can store months of food away. Food storage is a nice idea, but it only works if you have expendable income. Which a college kid doesn't have. I personally live in an area that really isn't affected too heavily by natural disasters anyway, so it's not something I consider a priority.

You can actually can get in trouble with the law for hoarding food if you have too long. Something to think about.

I haven't heard anything about us turning into a police state, and I honestly don't think that's going to happen.
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You can actually can get in trouble with the law for hoarding food if you have too long. Something to think about.

I haven't heard anything about us turning into a police state, and I honestly don't think that's going to happen. They need to start paying cops better wages and benefits before that happens.

As for the economy, it's slowly getting better. Not like full employment for everyone, but people are starting to get jobs again, especially in the big city. Read what the Economist has to say; it's incredibly useful.

As for stocking food, it's not something I have the money or time to worry about. I need to get my college diploma and pay my rent before I can store months of food away. Food storage is a nice idea, but it only works if you have expendable income. Which a college kid doesn't have. I personally live in an area that really isn't affected too heavily by natural disasters anyway, so it's not something I consider a priority.

It is interesting to hear this thing about the law and "hoarding food"...
Especially because the alternative media is stuffed with advertisements of buying storable food, enough for a year, two years, five years, for your whole family etc... It would really be a big fatty royal suck if that became outlawed!!! :S:S:S

I am very happy for it btw that the economy is on a somewhat more ok way now, though I still don't have much faith in the powers that be, neither their mainstream media, but indeed, imagine that you rule a country and want to stay in your fine position getting everything you wish for, of course it is manageable only when your people aren't revolting, trying to impeach you... All the stupid entertainment stuff has been working until lately, but when there is no job to feed your family and yourself then fuck the fun stuff... Panem et circenses... Put the sheep into ignorant oblivious bliss and they won't have a thought about stuff what matters... :|

But yeah, getting prepared is manageable rather when you are able to work already, not having to focus on your official education... (I just call studies on your own education too, when you don't do it in school, if it is deep and thorough enough... ^^) But then it is a smart thing to get to it as soon as possible... It also depends on the level of comfort taste of yours of course... Because it is really a toss up, because it can happen too that everything will be alright, and you could have used all that money and time spent on preparing for other, more pleasant things... On the other hand, if anything happens then you are fucked if you are unprepared... So I just find it (saddeningly un)common sense that one has the brains to think ahead, and provide the needed stuff for his/her family so whatever happens everything will be alright, the kids will be safe and not starving and in danger, and you never know how people would try to fuck around with you... Better to trust in yourself, yourselves first of all, and if things are ok then you have all that wonderful food already handy, and you won't have to worry about going to the store for years! But it's better to keep them handy anyway, rotated good so they won't go bad, so yes, it gets eaten up sooner or later, but at least you won't be starving and thirsty when something happens... ^^

You're lucky that you are in a relatively safer zone btw... In the USA... So many "hot spots" for Mama Nature's Moods and Fancies... ~grins ^^

Preppin? Or just livin on smilin? Do you take steps for such a future or do you just hope things will get better again?

Years ago I worked with a woman who "prepared" for Y2K. She built an additional room to her house. She stocked it full of batteries and several generators. The batteries were for her vibrators. She said whether it is Y2K or 12/21/2012, she is going out with a bang.

Absolutely a prepper and a survivalist. My man and I know how to hunt, what can be eaten in nature. We both have bug out bags containing a multitude of items from weapons to MRE's to soap packets and survival guides and we know how to make electricity if need be. Ya never know what's gonna happen and I want to be ready if shit ever hits the fan.

Ready in my home? Well I do have tons of canned goods, laundry detergents and other household items but that is because if it is on mega sale I am stocking up on stuff because ya never know when your family is going to have a hard time making ends meet.

There are so many things people just don't pay attention to care about, and when shit hits the fan they don't have the basic means to survive. Definitely a prepper, not because of expecting weird stuff coming, it is just natural to be ready for the worst if needed.

Well yeah, three of the listed things are somewhat of the case here too...

I listen to Alex Jones so much that I freak out a lot too, so my Master always has to calm me down that he tells many things right but some of them aren't going to
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Well yeah, three of the listed things are somewhat of the case here too...

I listen to Alex Jones so much that I freak out a lot too, so my Master always has to calm me down that he tells many things right but some of them aren't going to be like he describes them, or they aren't gonna happen overNight, so W/we have time to get prepared for everything... (I am just worried that something will happen with my internet and I won't be able to get more toys anymore, and I still have a LOT to get!!! )

Second case is the hoarding part, W/we don't do it blissfully, but I could imagine myself stocking up on a lot of food and extra parts for repairing stuff what W/we would never need maybe... My philosophy in prepping is it's better to have everything for any case, Master is more realistic than that... ^^

Space... W/we live in a large wonderfully remodeled RV, and have a large horse trailer as a mobile food storage for now, and W/we have realized that even if W/we could stock up on more food than lately W/we wouldn't have enough space anymore... (W/we still have some of course, but I wonder if it would be enough for a year, or even 6 months, like how it's good to have stocked up food... Would definitely be enough for months and months and months though, but as not everything can be stored long W/we would have to miss out on some good food, and eat less versatile, which I would be ok with for survival of course... ^^)

As I noticed so many people think that they couldn't afford to start to do such things, and I just wonder seeing what money they spend on stuff they REALLY DON'T NEED!

Let's start with it that it's better to manage to live ok somehow instead of getting into debt... No wonder people can't afford stuff...

Next important part is that you don't eat and drink stuff from stores as much as possible, because even our most basic food is full of things which aren't good for your heath at all, no matter what the "smart people" say, even scientists cover things up for the big companies... Better to take the extra time and grow as much food on your own as possible, and make your own bread and things like that, at least you know that it has only flour, water and other things in it! If you can't afford it then you can just sell your home and move to another state, get a small house, save on rent with it, with the money you save (not debt!!!) you get an RV for the adults, one or two trailers for the kids, as much space as needed, as they can be set up so good that everybody will be able to have PLENTY of privacy... (And private RV spots are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than any other rents, especially in some states...) You may have to leave precious friends, but oh well, you can stay in touch with them online, and one always loses and makes good friends anyway...

There are also other ridiculous things, how much people spend on entertainment, going out, machines, tv, cell phones, totally silly magazines... If you have to go to work everyday, using your car, you can do as many things as humanly possible in an as short drive as possible, instead of driving to pick some stuff up or get errands done going for an extra drive...

Other things like saving on electricity and spending time with some books instead can help in the process, and if you don't go to buy food so often you can grow some fresh spices, vegetables and fruits even inside your own home...

It is also a fantastic help if you buy food and other things in big stores made for restaurants, as there you can buy large quantities of food for an extremely low price...

And all in all, there are so many ways one can save money on, sometimes it just means that you buy something less fancy instead of your most favorite, and that you don't hang on your cell all buried into the screen, so you need no data for a touch screen phone, you can access the net on your desktop computer or laptop anyway...

One more important thing is that you take life easy enough, and try not to get chained into slavery to pay your debt, working your ass off at the same place for life... And that you try to learn an occupation what is really needed for the economy, instead of going for something with the big bucks, and what if you can't find a job because so many people are doing it anyway... You wanna learn as many things as possible, not only occupations, not to mention that such skills can be used in a job, and to make occasional money too, so you wanna be good at as many things as possible, and various workplaces teach you even more... Time to move on? You just get your stuff and go, there is home and work anywhere, that's why an RV is the best way to start to get prepared, so you can go to many places and get to know what would be the best spot to get settled in, and start to build up your very own space... You can have electricity with solar energy what you managed to afford with your saved up money, you can start to have critters like chickens and goats and fish, a big greenhouse to provide you all the food you need, have guns and other weapons and ammo to protect yourselves, and anybody up to kill some poor creatures in your family can get more food, big animals if possible, so you can smoke the meat to store it, learn about how to keep things cold in hot areas underground, you can also pickle and can a lot of the vegetables and fruits you grow, and fish and crawdads, rabbits mean an extremely easy and constant food source, goats giving milk (they can eat more stuff than cows, and you have to milk them only once a day), chickens having eggs, so you have food, you have electricity, running water fixed up with a good enough water storage solution, what else do you need, good computers and laptops and DVDs and/or hard drives to store all your books, movies, music and other stuff, your solar system will provide enough juice for them, and of course being busy with plants and critters you will have other activities anyway to keep you busy, not having to use such a lot of electricity in your free time... Oh, I almost forgot, you wanna have a wood stove cause burnable stuff happens to be almost anywhere, and solar garden spotlights are a very good alternative when you are worried about seeing stuff inside your home... And there are always people somewhere near enough, so you can trade the stuff you grow and things you make in your projects of woodwork and other ways to get other needed things for yourselves... One more thing, honey bees and stevia... So you won't miss sugar, not to mention stevia has no calories in it at all and it's 4 times stronger than sugar as I remember, and if you have no tobacco to grow you can smoke mullein, it is good for your lungs on the top of that, and with no coffee to drink every single day you will get used to not needing it anymore, and herbal teas are always cool stuff to savor...

Another important thing, you HAVE TO study herbs, so if there is no doctor nearby you won't have any or too many problems... There is an herb for everything anyway, if not more herbs, which is more of a case, not to mention that not eating crap you are fed with nowadays and moving enough everyday by working will make you healthy and balanced as hell, so you will have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less chance to need a doctor! Not to mention that in the United States they feed you with pills to keep you sick, instead of curing you, they barely even know much about curing things, so it will be your duty to know enough about health and sicknesses and diseases... But it's still better than being trapped into the fake "modern health industry"... ^^

Just a few tips, stuff can be figured out when someone changes the mindset, being open-minded enough... ^^

In this.... idea of what will happen, do you really think there will be the infrastructure to support the internet? I don't think anything is going to happen. My Man and I have always grown our own food, and we have a wind turbine to supplement some power. But, we do these things because they are good for the environment and we enjoy them, not in preparation for some apocalyptic event.

If the US infrastructure collapses (and I don't think it will) I'm pretty sure the complicated systems that the Internet depends on to run and thrive will be the first to go. If it's an attack either from the interior or from abroad, the first thing they will take out is the Internet and the electricity. So, expecting to "keep in touch" or do any business on the 'net is going to simply not be possible. Of course, I'm not the least bit worried about it, if civilization goes, I'll be happy to go along with it. But, I don't think it's going to happen. There have been apocalyptic predictions for as long as we've had recorded time. And they are always wrong. Life and civilization heal and prevail.

No, I'm not leaving my family and friends to go live in the wilderness and stockpile food. I do think it's psychologically unhealthy to isolate oneself in this way. I think self imposed isolation can result in things much worse than any foggy unformed ideas about the Collapse. In fact, isolating someone from their support system and scaring them and keeping them in a constant state of low level of anxiety and uncertainty is a good way to keep someone from learning, thriving and growing....

However, this is just my opinion. You are entitled to yours and whatever "preparation" you feel is necessary.

we've always done preparing in my family. big garden. can/dehydrate everything. Learned a bunch of survival skills from various family members (hunting, trapping, etc) and we live in an area still some what rural. I'm going to school for Emergency Management so we talk about preppers often in my classes. I would suggest at least looking at FEMA/Redcross and looking at how to make a basic kit for disasters.

I definitely think there's no harm in being prepared, but I also think people like Alex Jones are a bit "off the deep end".

It makes me sad because some of the stuff he talks about is right on, but the rest of it is tin-foil hat stuff. He loses a lot of credibility by jumping on every single crazy conspiracy theory out there.

That said, it certainly doesn't hurt to have first-aid supplies, some extra food & water, an electric generator, and whatever else you might deem necessary in a SHTF (Shit-Hits-The-Fan) situation.

My mother believes this kind of stuff, and always talks about moving to a farm somewhere so that she'll be prepared for if the government collapses. I think books about that kind of thing are interesting (like 'Dies the Fire' and the rest of the Emberverse series), but I'm not about to go setup a bunker somewhere. I do feel that I have enough skills that I'd be okay if something like that happened, though - I can knit, sew, grow vegetables, do basic carpentry, that sort of thing.

My friend is buying some land and is currently trying to recruit me to homestead with her. I lived on a farm for a little while so I'm up for the challenge! Y'all should look into tiny houses! Mobile, adorable and so economic.

There's always a new political or economic scare for people to be terrified of, but I still like preparing just in case. I haven't gotten to far as of yet, but I've got a bug-out bag and the most essential emergency gear, and I'm trying to become slightly more self-sustainable as time goes on.

I believe that one should definitely be aware that anything can happen at any time and that it behooves everyone in your house to have a plan, and basic supplies. Getting yourself worked up about potential scenarios seems like a waste of time to me, but you should know how you would handle situations like the ones mentioned above. Stockpiling food can get tedious because of expiration dates though...

Even since I first volunteered with the Red Cross after college, I've kept a basic disaster kit together. Because shit does happen from time to time. We always have at least 3 days worth of non-perishable food and water (which we replace every 6 months), lights, a radio, first aid and a few other things. We always keep our cars' fueled up.

We don't have any sex toys in the kit, but if we ever have to evacuate, I'll definitely have to grab a few toys before we leave!

Hurricane Sandy was a good test of our preparedness. Fortunately, we were able to 'shelter in place' and didn't have to use much of our gear, other than flashlights and the radio--but it was good to go know we would've done OK if we'd had to run away.

I've watched a ton of vlogs and shows about these SHTF preppers. It just made me paranoid mostly. Alot of preppers have a room full of medicine and firearms and seem to me like the type of people who wear tinfoil hats too. But I did learn something from it. We are pretty dependent on alot of shit. IF something did happen I'd like to be prepared. The most LIKELY event no one can deny is natural disasters. I'm not talking an armagedon here I'm talking your basic flood, tornado,fire,whatever. Those are REAL disasters that happen all of the time and no one prepares. So i'd be stupid not to. I don't go all crazy or anything but I've been educating myself on basic skills like how to filter water, how to fire a gun, how to grow vegetables, how to start a fire, how to handle an emergency. basic stuff that I've noticed alot of ppl don't know, but 50+ years ago most did. They make a great point and have good intentions but I think most preppers fed too much into their paranoia for their own good. (I'm also a couponer with a stockpiile but that's just what crazy coupon ladies do lol. I prep incase I run out of spaghetti sauce or TP! lol) Plus, things like growing vegetables and purifying water help me be green and eco-friendly which pleases my hippie side. =D

I've watched a ton of vlogs and shows about these SHTF preppers. It just made me paranoid mostly. Alot of preppers have a room full of medicine and firearms and seem to me like the type of people who wear tinfoil hats too. But I did learn
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I've watched a ton of vlogs and shows about these SHTF preppers. It just made me paranoid mostly. Alot of preppers have a room full of medicine and firearms and seem to me like the type of people who wear tinfoil hats too. But I did learn something from it. We are pretty dependent on alot of shit. IF something did happen I'd like to be prepared. The most LIKELY event no one can deny is natural disasters. I'm not talking an armagedon here I'm talking your basic flood, tornado,fire,whatever. Those are REAL disasters that happen all of the time and no one prepares. So i'd be stupid not to. I don't go all crazy or anything but I've been educating myself on basic skills like how to filter water, how to fire a gun, how to grow vegetables, how to start a fire, how to handle an emergency. basic stuff that I've noticed alot of ppl don't know, but 50+ years ago most did. They make a great point and have good intentions but I think most preppers fed too much into their paranoia for their own good. (I'm also a couponer with a stockpiile but that's just what crazy coupon ladies do lol. I prep incase I run out of spaghetti sauce or TP! lol) Plus, things like growing vegetables and purifying water help me be green and eco-friendly which pleases my hippie side. =D

I'd say this is a healthy view. There are, of course, natural disasters, and if you're in a danger zone you'd do well to learn such things. My problem with preppers, though, is when they blow things way out of proportion, and take such disasters to mean it's the end of the world, a catastrophe we'll take years to bounce back from. History shows this to be false. Indeed, there are problems that take years to resolve, but in those instances it's not the end of civilisation. I believe this is something that stems from the risk perception gap. People, all or at least most people, have a tendency to look at a situation and incorrectly gauge the risk - to blow it out of proportion, or to underestimate it.