Well I know it's kind of early but anyways kind of first breaking news (?) no Charleston. :help: That's 120 points going away and I was already processing all strategies for Julia to compensate Stuttgart which I recall is now a 'Premier 700' in other words going to have like 100% of the top 10. :happy:

Julia Goerges ‏ @juliagoerges
Leaving Miami tonight.back to Europe.Unfortunately i had to pull out of charleston cause of a viral illness which i got here a few days ago!

joy division

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:10 PM

I`m not sure about the infect, there were not significantly more tissues than else in use.:shrug:
On the other hand Julia is not the most weatherproofed player and when you see her practicing hard and sweating in the wind, as seen in the videos of Aravanecaravane, you always fear that she`s in for catching a cold or something.
She might also be a bit tired and needs a little break apart from the tournaments to prepare well for this important part of the season. Maybe playing some cards again in good Ol`Bad Oldesloe.;) Why not.

To start with -120 points into clay season is not nice. Defending the points of Stuttgart and Madrid will be very hard/impossible. She wants to play Barcelona and Rome too, I guess.
Julia can earn something there and also reach the second week at RG so she might not fall down the rankings too much.

LinusVanPelt

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:14 PM

İ was waiting for the clay season, the best conditions for our jules. She has to be effective in her trainings in these free times.She should -sorry she must- get back herself together, if she wants to go olympics. This time We will see how much eager can she be when she wants something really bad i think. İ assume that she is really eager about the olympics beacuse first of all, it is freakin olympics and second of all it is olympics.

QuentinCompson

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:26 PM

Would really love to see Julia have an excellent RG this year. She needs a breakout slam. Why not this one!

SidTheKid

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:27 PM

That would be so great :) If she plays good QF is real.Maybe even semis :p

mk27

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:29 PM

That means her next tournament is Barcelona.

joy division

Mar 27th, 2012, 06:32 PM

That would be so great :) If she plays good QF is real.Maybe even semis :p

Guys promise to ban me if Julia ever reaches that kind of critical stage because I know Julia does have her unforced moments too but not right there. :hysteric:

I`m not sure about the infect, there were not significantly more tissues than else in use.:shrug:
On the other hand Julia is not the most weatherproofed player and when you see her practicing hard and sweating in the wind, as seen in the videos of Aravanecaravane, you always fear that she`s in for catching a cold or something.
She might also be a bit tired and needs a little break apart from the tournaments to prepare well for this important part of the season. Maybe playing some cards again in good Ol`Bad Oldesloe.;) Why not.

To start with -120 points into clay season is not nice. Defending the points of Stuttgart and Madrid will be very hard/impossible. She wants to play Barcelona and Rome too, I guess.
Julia can earn something there and also reach the second week at RG so she might not fall down the rankings too much.

:lol: Weirdly you know, Julia had more chances of defending herself in a Mandatory event than in Stuttgart.

This explains by the draw. Stuttgart is a 28 (32) draw which means Julia has a very high chance of meeting a top player in the 2nd. round to me with her actual ranking.

Madrid has a 128 draw -- so it allows Julia more opportunities to work herself into the tournament. In Stuttgart unless she has incredible luck I just don't see how she would escape getting a difficult top player early. :sad: Here's what a typical draw in Stuttgart would look like with the 8 seeds :

1 Vika
2 Bye
3
4
5
6
7
8 Stosur

9 Radwanska
10 Bye
11
12
13
14
15
16 Wozniacki

17 Stosur
18
19
20
21
22
23 Bye
24 Petra

25 Bartoli
26
27
28
29
30
31 Bye
32 Maria

She could take a difficult top player in her first match or in her R16 match -- I know it really depends to the top girl for example Bartoli or Caroline would not be bad. :crying2:

I know she beat lots of top girls in 2011 but she had lost the first set Vika, still has not beaten Maria, Radwanska is a huge stub -- actually she can compete with Petra pretty well :eek: - and we need revenge against Marion. :fiery:

I think Julia really has a big pressure to win Barcelona, she needs the Barcelona trophy absolutely.

Lisickifan84

Mar 27th, 2012, 07:47 PM

Why not winning it ?:tape: :banana:

Would really love to see Julia have an excellent RG this year. She needs a breakout slam. Why not this one!

That's the spirit :cool:

But first of all too bad that she is ill now, again :sad:
Next tournament would be Barcelona?

SidTheKid

Mar 27th, 2012, 07:48 PM

Why not winning it ?:tape: :banana:

That would be dream come true.But RG is torunamnet that does not do good things to your career :lol: (Ivanovic great example)

Lisickifan84

Mar 27th, 2012, 07:54 PM

That would be dream come true.But RG is torunamnet that does not do good things to your career :lol: (Ivanovic great example)

Hm honestly, not a good thing? She may never has a chance to win a GS. If she dropp down the ranking a little after winning a GS just like Ana did then please do it Julia :lol:
I mean, winning a GS is forever. Fu.. the ranking after that :lol:

Vikapower

Mar 27th, 2012, 07:54 PM

That would be so great :) If she plays good QF is real.Maybe even semis :p

:haha: I didn't see you changed your name -- I was wondering who's that new poster times I watched the user CP. :lol: Why did you chose that ? :D

SidTheKid

Mar 27th, 2012, 07:55 PM

:lol: Well I don´t think she would do Anas epic slump so :D But I would rather take Wimby or Olympics :D Olympics is even more :p

Javier Chicharito-Football player for Manchester United :D How did you know it is me after all?

If Julia wins Barcelona and manages to win at least just one match in Stuttgart which is 60 points she'll only lose 200 points and it shouldn't affect her ranking that much 2785 to 2585.

I prefer not talk about the other scenarios. :awww:

SidTheKid

Mar 27th, 2012, 08:02 PM

What about scenario she earns lots of points? :)

Michael!

Mar 27th, 2012, 08:05 PM

Shit, didn´t see that before! :(
Julia often has some problems with her health, has to be careful that it doesn´t get worse with viral illnesses etc.
She doesnt want to risk anything this time, I guess, already withdrew one week before Charleston starts although she was able to play doubles in Miami still...well, but for sure better to be a bit more careful this time, hoping for a good result in Barcelona then, she really needs some points there.
Looked great before Miami, now it looks a bit worse but still OK yet...(pointwise)

Vikapower

Mar 27th, 2012, 08:33 PM

I made a quick ranking projection -- the scale represents her performance in Barcelona plus the scenarios :

The worst case would Julia losing 1st. in Barcelona and 1st. in Stuttgart which can strongly be possible if we remind in the start of the year how she performed after similar injury. In that case she loses 440 points to find 2255. If Julia pulls out of Barcelona and losses R32 Stuttgart : 2285 and if she pulls out of Barcelona and losses QF in Stuttgart : 2345.

Julia's best 17th. result is 30 (Dallas). It's not enough to compensate since all her best results are countable.

Anyways, we musn't forget that Julia didn't play Rome which is a Premier 5 where she can catch back herself eventually and there's always a possibility to play Brussels (Premier) which has a depleted field. :shrug:

Lisickifan84

Mar 27th, 2012, 08:45 PM

The worst case would Julia losing 1st. in Barcelona and 1st. in Stuttgart which can strongly be possible if we remind in the start of the year how she performed after similar injury. In that case she loses 440 points to find 2255.

Now she has almost 2 weeks to recover. I guess that will be enough ;)

selesia

Mar 28th, 2012, 12:14 AM

and Fed Cup between Charleston and Stuttgart... Maybe she will skip Charleston.

I also predicted that her dislike for air conditioning is related to her illnesses, so I am probably a prophet or her friend :p

I'm actually happy that she doesn't play in charleston. It's better to survive jetlag and change of time, than to play on a pseudo blue-clay now.
Somehow I'm also calm about her defense of points. She plays her best tennis during a clay season, she has Rome and Barcelona to earn some points and also Stuttgart is her drug :devil:
Even if she loses points, it's still a half of season to play yet. And she has very little to defend during U.S. tour.

I hope, that some people here won't mix her with mud if she won't meet their own expectations :tape:

I am looking forward for her fighting spirit and that she won't to give up without a match.
And most importantly for her just to be healthy :yeah:

selesia

Mar 28th, 2012, 03:13 AM

She should -sorry she must- get back herself together, if she wants to go olympics. This time We will see how much eager can she be when she wants something really bad i think. İ assume that she is really eager about the olympics beacuse first of all, it is freakin olympics and second of all it is olympics.

She must be among the 24 players in Olympics Race:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=21122290&postcount=90

You can observe it in this thread: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=449343&page=6

HowardH

Mar 28th, 2012, 06:37 AM

How unfortunate that she is ill again (apparently). She needs to eat more fresh fruit or something.

Still, at least she will be well rested for the tournaments afterwards.

:lol: Well I don´t think she would do Anas epic slump so :D But I would rather take Wimby or Olympics :D Olympics is even more :p

Javier Chicharito-Football player for Manchester United :D How did you know it is me after all?

I noticed it was you a few days ago, Dominatorb. It was obvious from your Julia avatar and your signature, which had 1. Julia 1.1 Ana etc... Can't remember the whole list, but there were about 6 of them, Sorana was in there. Maybe the others were Domi Jarka and Sabine? Something like that. Now you have changed your signature, but the colour scheme of your siggie remains the same. What is your real name by the way? Or are we going to start calling you Javier?

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 08:50 AM

:lol: Well I don´t think she would do Anas epic slump so :D But I would rather take Wimby or Olympics :D Olympics is even more :p

Javier Chicharito-Football player for Manchester United :D How did you know it is me after all?

how did you changed your name :confused:

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 08:52 AM

She must be among the 24 players in Olympics Race:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=21122290&postcount=90

You can observe it in this thread: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=449343&page=6

thank you, danke schön and teşekkür ederim :) i was looking for a something like that. i really want to see her in the olympics.

this is the danger zone. their points are close, ivanovic is not going to play another wta tournaments until stuttgart , so thats good,jules probably will be the number 16 in barcelona, but jankovic and daniela are going to play in charleston-thats what i heard i dont about the other players, she has to be lucky in barcelona :/

SidTheKid

Mar 28th, 2012, 12:47 PM

I noticed it was you a few days ago, Dominatorb. It was obvious from your Julia avatar and your signature, which had 1. Julia 1.1 Ana etc... Can't remember the whole list, but there were about 6 of them, Sorana was in there. Maybe the others were Domi Jarka and Sabine? Something like that. Now you have changed your signature, but the colour scheme of your siggie remains the same. What is your real name by the way? Or are we going to start calling you Javier?

You can do so but my name is Dominik :) So Dom works good :) Sabine wasn ´t there not fan of her :D But Jarka,Domi and Sori were sou you got that right :)

how did you changed your name :confused:

There is name change thread :)

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 01:26 PM

There is name change thread :)

thank you :) no more silly nicknames. :sport:

SidTheKid

Mar 28th, 2012, 01:26 PM

I can imagine what you got from your username :lol:

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 01:31 PM

Cant you see it? One does not simlpy give me silly nicknames anymore :lol:

HowardH

Mar 28th, 2012, 02:12 PM

So now you're Linus from Peanuts, Emir? A classic cartoon. You gave yourself those nicknames :lol:. We just went along for the ride.

Well Linus, I can see how positively you feel about Julia's start to the clay season from your avatar.

The choice of Linus makes total sense. Julia is never without her tissues, just like Linus is never without his blanket. I see it now. They are security tissues, like Linus' security blanket :lol:.

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 06:49 PM

So now you're Linus from Peanuts, Emir? A classic cartoon. You gave yourself those nicknames :lol:. We just went along for the ride.

Well Linus, I can see how positively you feel about Julia's start to the clay season from your avatar.

The choice of Linus makes total sense. Julia is never without her tissues, just like Linus is never without his blanket. I see it now. They are security tissues, like Linus' security blanket :lol:.

wow.:worship: at the first place i was about to choose my new name as "LinusWithoutBlankets" but then i changed my mind :) İ know you probably made a joke but, maybe her "blue blanket" is her tissues :confused: :lol: -and im kind of suprised that you made the connection and i seriously think that way- but yes im positive about the clay season, i expect her to be in QF's in RG, im even betting! :cool:

Rovegun

Mar 28th, 2012, 06:56 PM

so what tournaments is she going to play on clay? Barcelona, Fed Cup, Rome and Madrid?

it will be interesting to see Julia play on clay again after last year´s success on this surface... I wonder how well she will play and hope she won´t lose too many points as she has a lot of points to defend but on the other hand she has a few chances where to gain those possible lost points on clay... I´m really looking forward to this clay part of the season it´s going to be a bit change for our eyes to deal with that surface on TV but I will get used to it as always...

as we´re closing to the clay period back to Europe I would like to remind you Radek Stepanek´s sentence which he wrote into a tennis magazin which I like.. he said: I am already carrying my dirty socks back home again....

SidTheKid

Mar 28th, 2012, 06:59 PM

Looks like Madrid will be on blue clay :) Isn´t she playing Stutgard also?

Rovegun

Mar 28th, 2012, 07:07 PM

yeah, I forgot Stuttgart... I don´t want to see that blue clay in Madrid... Spain has got the best clay court players and then will come with blue clay :facepalm: I just want to say red clay is so natural but that blue? oh God....

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 07:08 PM

İm hoping that fed cup will contribute her. She should practice with angie, she has the all qualities which julia doesnt have: movement, patience, wise choices. we know she cant help her with her mental problems, but maybe she can improve her movements for a little bit :shrug:

LinusVanPelt

Mar 28th, 2012, 07:12 PM

yeah, I forgot Stuttgart... I don´t want to see that blue clay in Madrid... Spain has got the best clay court players and then will come with blue clay :facepalm: I just want to say red clay is so natural but that blue? oh God....

no, you are definetly normal, blue clay makes the court looks like its covered with billiard chalk. maybe we both are anormal, i dont know.

selesia

Mar 28th, 2012, 10:11 PM

no, you are definetly normal, blue clay makes the court looks like its covered with billiard chalk. maybe we both are anormal, i dont know.

I am the third http://www.delle101.de/forum/upload/smilies/ti_1250947339_950a.gif

Ps: So from 'fluffy' to 'snoopy' - I like it http://www.delle101.de/forum/upload/smilies/ti_1250946781_d240.gif

SidTheKid

Mar 29th, 2012, 07:08 PM

Blue clay looks horrible.Will she be falling on it again covering herself to look like smurf? :lol:

HowardH

Mar 30th, 2012, 04:47 AM

Smurfette Julia :inlove: :lol:

Vikapower

Mar 30th, 2012, 03:33 PM

Julia kills the forum -- so long before we can see her in action again. :sad:

Rovegun

Mar 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM

Julia kills the forum -- so long before we can see her in action again. :sad:

you´re right mate... I hate this time without tournaments :( but this period is still much better than the time in off season...

SidTheKid

Mar 30th, 2012, 08:20 PM

In the next rankings Julia should move to Career best n.14 :cheer:

Rovegun

Mar 30th, 2012, 08:43 PM

In the next rankings Julia should move to Career best n.14 :cheer:

according to http://tenismaclari.com/Siralama/s1_50.html she will have the same amount of points as Ana but Julia will be no. 15 but I don´t know why....

SidTheKid

Mar 30th, 2012, 08:43 PM

According to WTA predicted she will be 14

selesia

Mar 30th, 2012, 11:30 PM

15 ;)

Don't know what decides at the equal number of points, that Ivanovic is first...

You can do so but my name is Dominik :) So Dom works good :)

hmmm Dom... This reminds me immediately "The Fast and the Furious" :hearts: Are you also so handsome?? :p ;)

SidTheKid

Mar 31st, 2012, 03:01 PM

hmmm Dom... This reminds me immediately "The Fast and the Furious" :hearts: Are you also so handsome?? :p ;)

I think what makes difference when 2 player are equal on points are points from GS,Premier events

Spring Pools

Apr 2nd, 2012, 09:38 PM

That would be dream come true.But RG is torunamnet that does not do good things to your career :lol: (Ivanovic great example)

How about Justine? Winning RG the first time didn't hurt her career that much...

selesia

Apr 2nd, 2012, 09:51 PM

Graf had even six titles and everything was fine :lol:

Vikapower

Apr 3rd, 2012, 05:58 PM

How about Justine? Winning RG the first time didn't hurt her career that much...

Justine when she won her first major had multiple experiences already, 2 SF, 1 F and QF -- Julia only has a 4th. round she lost in a memorable way.

Justine was also coming from a SF in AO 2003 -- TBH she was really expected --

She also had 3 Tier I's titles and and 2 Tier II's, 9 titles overall before that RG 2003.

Though I really like Julia she's not in the situation of Justine at all -- if at least she made a F in one of a P5 or Mandatory then [...] perhaps [...] somehow but it's not even the case.

These things are hard to tell from a player to another -- if Julia won RG this year I don't know but I'm almost certain her career would derail from there for multiple reasons --

1) She's German who live in Germany.

2) At this stage of her career right now, she's not expected to win a major -- how would she take the fact of a being a total surprise winner ?

Most of the GS surprise winners have derailed, Sammy, Schiavone, Li Na and even Petra to some extent thankfully she caught back herself.

Julia is as risky as at least 3 of the 4 players I cited which increases even more the risks for her.

3) If she wins RG, it's almost certain she'll be top 10 etc. how will she handle the situation of being a top 10 ? Consistency, regularity in performances etc. ?

4) Julia has big stubs on hard courts -- RG could inverse her difficulties there because of the confidence etc. but I really doubt against very top players since it's not mental with her but technical or from a technical stand-point.

She might have to change bits of the technique she developed for years but it's a risky poison to change the things that worked for something different, when it doesn't work, the effects can be terrible.

selesia

Apr 4th, 2012, 02:19 PM

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1612864484/112304755_normal.jpg Julia Goerges ‏ @juliagoerges 3.April:
First hit on red clay today and i have to say: I LIKE IT😜👍

Good, first steps done :D

QuentinCompson

Apr 6th, 2012, 03:33 PM

Good to hear from her. Confidence always helps. Hope to see her build toward to a big RG!

Vikapower

Apr 6th, 2012, 04:41 PM

:lol: I didn't pay attention to the tweet -- looks like Julia is relieved to be on (red) clay finally :eek: anyways not a surprise -- the first part of the season was pretty successful so hopefully she can carry the good play on her best surface. :bounce:

I really hope Julia could win 'Rome' -- I think it's really possible even if it's a P5 but last year unfortunately she didn't have a chance to play the event and I'm certain she'd have done well if everything is alright a first P5 in her career would be just awesome. :worship:

I don't really thrust 'Madrid' that much not really for the status of the tournament but more for the quick conditions, altitude etc. -- it gives Julia issues and suits a certain category of players who don't really spare her game, we'll see but Rome would be just the Cherry on the cake and ideal for Julia.

Barcelona is full of clay specalists, don´t know what to expect, Qualifier in 1st round should be ok, Muguruza in 2nd round could be really tough already, but we´ll see, I hope she can win some matches here at least!

robpal

Apr 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM

Pretty decent draw for Julia, also Vinci as a projected SF opponent. Schiavone and Pennetta in the top half...
Still, tough tournament as for International. But come on, Julia is a clay specialist too! :drool:

Vikapower

Apr 7th, 2012, 05:01 PM

The draw looks really good -- clay specialist ? :lol: Julia is as good enough if not better than most of these girls on clay, it's her best surface by afar.

Hopefully Julia makes the SF and better, she really needs it.

Pretty decent draw for Julia, also Vinci as a projected SF opponent. Schiavone and Pennetta in the top half...
Still, tough tournament as for International. But come on, Julia is a clay specialist too! :drool:

:lol: Oops sorry didn't see that part -- yeah I agree, if Julia is confident she's one of the best clay courters in the women's game, at least top 5, her game is natural on it, she slides effortlessly, her lift, angles [...] :drool:

I mean there's nothing to really fear on red clay BUT as always with Julia it's her head so hopefully this week break of no competition didn't make her forget her form from earlier this year.

Rovegun

Apr 7th, 2012, 05:49 PM

2 clay court titles says it all :worship: not everyone would realize that but Julia´s also a clay court specialist.... I still remember pretty well her great performances in Madrid and Stuttgart and she played incredible she was so much fun to watch :hearts: hope she can play well in Barcelona or overall her clay court season will be successful I don´t reckon she will gain as many points as she gained last year but it would be nice to get some QFs or SFs because Julia is able to do that...

Vikapower

Apr 7th, 2012, 06:11 PM

2 clay court titles says it all :worship: not everyone would realize that but Julia´s also a clay court specialist.... I still remember pretty well her great performances in Madrid and Stuttgart and she played incredible she was so much fun to watch :hearts: hope she can play well in Barcelona or overall her clay court season will be successful I don´t reckon she will gain as many points as she gained last year but it would be nice to get some QFs or SFs because Julia is able to do that...

Yes I agree overall, that's why I hope Julia can do more than well in these 'little' tournaments in other words 'win' them. :lol:

I hope my dream of seeing her win Rome becomes true nonetheless, I think it's totally possible but overall anyways I'm certain Julia can keep a constant level to make the QFs, SFs of the up-coming tournaments --

She's a top-class clay-court player and if she really believes in herself then there's really not that many top girls on the WTA tour unless Stosur who come close to her natural movement/game on her peak surface.

Winning the big events will be quite complicated with the dominant forces and the aura they have nowadays on the tour but with some luck well you never know. ;)

_inocencia_

Apr 8th, 2012, 09:34 AM

well, you guys think that muguruza can continue her storm form..
4 julia sake, hope not..
she should play uncredible well to beat julia on clay, if jule takes this tornament seriously :smoke:
i have to admit i'm sceptic with jule and wta 220. but it's clay start, so i'm hoping to see julia kick some ass :drool: :yeah:

joy division

Apr 8th, 2012, 09:40 AM

No doubt, on paper Julia is one of the favorites at Barcelona.(What a nice town by the way !)
But I agree with Michael, the field is full with clay specialists. And an upcoming player like Muguruza who seems to be a more aggressive player, too could already be dangerous for Julia when this girl can handle the pressure in front of the home crowd.

Julia is known as a slow starter when there is a change of surfaces and needs some time to get used to it in competition. Therefore I don`t have very high expectations in her at Barcelona but I won`t be worried when she proves me a liar.:D
The more important tournaments will come very soon.

juliagoerges: Had a good day of practice here in Barcelonaðªð¸enjoying a nice massage now with my physio @andinolte !after that i will go with my team to
the city to play some BINGOððnice and funny game!draw is done-playing a qualifier first round!so dont know yet who it will beð
She`s already been working with this guy for a longer time but mostly in Germany.
He is also an osteopath what sounds interesting to me and seems to accompany her more often now on the tour.
Is Gabbi out now or is her staff just growing and growing ?
,

Banditoo

Apr 8th, 2012, 12:10 PM

Are there a live stream for matches? I can't wait. My three favorites play. It's going to be one of the greatest clay seasons!

Vikapower

Apr 8th, 2012, 03:15 PM

But I agree with Michael, the field is full with clay specialists.

The thing is why don't you all put Julia as clay specialist too ? :lol: Just watch her records -- Her game is clay most and before all even if effectively she has made some progress on hard-courts.

I mean if we spoke about a player who had difficulties on clay I would understand that a draw filled with clay spe's would be a difficult one but Julia is as good as them on clay.

I mean Julia just needs to keep her head right -- we know she doesn't have problems on that surface, her best one -- only her head is always the unknown.

QuentinCompson

Apr 8th, 2012, 04:13 PM

Serious mistake to underestimate Garbi, if that matchup should occur. I am fond of both, so you can discount my opinion if you like, but I did personally see 4 of Garbine's matches at Clearwater and Miami and she is the real deal. She's also WTA 146, not 220. She is the total antithesis of the typical Spanish counterpuncher, plays like a "Spanish Sharapova" or Azarenka without the awful shriek, defends extremely well, serves big, and well under pressure, and hits a boatload of winners. Unlike Julia, she seems to be able to either end points quickly or have loads of patience in lengthy rallies which suited her well against acclaimed counterpunchers like Zvonereva and Pennetta. Part of me hates the fact that two of my faves may have to play each other, especially in R2, but if it happens, I hope it's on TV and someone records it in HHDD for posterity.

Dunno who I'd cheer for--both I guess. Or maybe abstain. This really sucks...

QuentinCompson

Apr 9th, 2012, 04:24 PM

Oh brother....Jule plays Aravane R1 at Barcelone. Guess you guys are on your own for this one, lol. Why oh why?! Hope it's a good match, won't be disappointed either way, but my heart will always be for Aravane first. This draw totally sucks, BTW. Three of my faves WILL play each other in the first two rounds. That's punishment for something....gotta figure out what....

Just begging that someone please record this, my dream match, so I can watch it over and over. :lol:

Vikapower

Apr 9th, 2012, 04:44 PM

Oh brother....Jule plays Aravane R1 at Barcelone. Guess you guys are on your own for this one, lol. Why oh why?! Hope it's a good match, won't be disappointed either way, but my heart will always be for Aravane first. This draw totally sucks, BTW. Three of my faves WILL play each other in the first two rounds. That's punishment for something....gotta figure out what....

Just begging that someone please record this, my dream match, so I can watch it over and over. :lol:

:lol:

With some luck probably you'll find the match in the media section IDK --

Anwyways the fiery Muguruza won, I have no idea what she looks like but people said in Miami she hits hard etc. she's spanish and must be good on clay have no idea.

joy division

Apr 9th, 2012, 04:57 PM

Aravanecaravane@

Feel sorry for you, but Julia will take this, I fear.:hug:

Just saw Muguruza against Parra.
Impressing victory. She confirmed all the attitudes you gave her in your post, and seems to be very confident/solid too.
That will be tough for Julia and I`m close to say that this is another bad draw for her looking at the 2nd round.
The crowd might be no disadvantage, because it`s just not existent. Not even some old daddies there, absolutely 0 atmosphere on the court.:rolleyes:
Hope that gets better the coming days.

QuentinCompson

Apr 9th, 2012, 05:43 PM

:lol:

With some luck probably you'll find the match in the media section IDK --

Anwyways the fiery Muguruza won, I have no idea what she looks like but people said in Miami she hits hard etc. she's spanish and must be good on clay have no idea.

Re: Garbine, I was one of them. I saw her play in person both in Clearwater and Miami and was full of praise for her when reporting on the forum. Regardless of who wins tomorrow, "Mug" will be a huge test in R2, you can believe that.

I was curious as to how her big, aggressive game would translate to clay, but it appears she has no real issue with it.

As for what she looks like, if you like good-looking, Latin brunettes, it's all good. ;)

Rovegun

Apr 9th, 2012, 05:46 PM

Yes I agree overall, that's why I hope Julia can do more than well in these 'little' tournaments in other words 'win' them. :lol:

I hope my dream of seeing her win Rome becomes true nonetheless, I think it's totally possible but overall anyways I'm certain Julia can keep a constant level to make the QFs, SFs of the up-coming tournaments --

She's a top-class clay-court player and if she really believes in herself then there's really not that many top girls on the WTA tour unless Stosur who come close to her natural movement/game on her peak surface.

Winning the big events will be quite complicated with the dominant forces and the aura they have nowadays on the tour but with some luck well you never know. ;)

I am back from Davis Cup in Prague so now I am ready to carry on discussing here...

yes, as you said if she believes in herself there´s almost no one who could beat her... she´s such a player who can beat only herself she´s someone like Petra Kvitova... if Julia is in form she can beat almost anyone... in my opinion her game suits every surface with her aggressive display... I remember yesterday there were talking about Tomas Berdych if he´s only a hardcourter or if he can play on all surfaces and the father of our Fed Cup captain was in studio saying if Tomas plays his game he can win on all surfaces and that´s equal with Julia...

She`s already been working with this guy for a longer time but mostly in Germany.
He is also an osteopath what sounds interesting to me and seems to accompany her more often now on the tour.
Is Gabbi out now or is her staff just growing and growing ?
,

that´s exactly what I was thinking about as well... I know Gabbi is/was her physio so I thought she didn´t need any other....

Are there a live stream for matches? I can't wait. My three favorites play. It's going to be one of the greatest clay seasons!

there are live streams on http://www.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

I am pretty sure Julia´s match will be streamed...

Oh brother....Jule plays Aravane R1 at Barcelone. Guess you guys are on your own for this one, lol. Why oh why?! Hope it's a good match, won't be disappointed either way, but my heart will always be for Aravane first. This draw totally sucks, BTW. Three of my faves WILL play each other in the first two rounds. That's punishment for something....gotta figure out what....

Just begging that someone please record this, my dream match, so I can watch it over and over. :lol:

that´s the problem of all us who likes more players :D there´s dilemma everytime who to cheer up for... I only want to enjoy watching that match when my favorites want to beat each other...

QuentinCompson

Apr 9th, 2012, 05:58 PM

Aravanecaravane@

Feel sorry for you, but Julia will take this, I fear.:hug:

Just saw Muguruza against Parra.
Impressing victory. She confirmed all the attitudes you gave her in your post, and seems to be very confident/solid too.
That will be tough for Julia and I`m close to say that this is another bad draw for her looking at the 2nd round.
The crowd might be no disadvantage, because it`s just not existent. Not even some old daddies there, absolutely 0 atmosphere on the court.:rolleyes:
Hope that gets better the coming days.

Julia is ranked much higher, so it shouldn't be a surprised who will be favored. Aravane is coming back from serious family issues, a lack of motivation, and very inconsistent training. Will take time for her to regain her confidence and proper training habits. She herself recognizes this, and spoke candidly about it to me when we talked at Clearwater a few weeks ago.

But it shouldn't color or discredit what she is capapble of when she plays her best. She has winning H2Hs vs. Kvitova & Woz, has beaten Venus and Jankovic the last 2 times played when both were still relevant, beat Henin, Sharapova, Bartoli. A game away from wiping the floor with Serena at 6-3, 5-2...both losses to her were 3 sets. So it's not like she can't play.

In fact, from the several times I have seen both in person, I would say that she is better off the ground than Julia (more firepower, though her consistency can go in either direction, as I've seen Julia have some rotten days in this area herself), but her serve is clearly her liability, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. Julia will have a big advantage if she has even an average serving day. Also, Julia plays doubles and should have an advantage at the net, if she bothers venturing in.

My guess is that if Aravane hasn't tired herself out from the three qual matches--two of which went 3 sets--this will be a very good match with excellent potential to go three sets. If she runs out gas, it could be over quick. I'm hoping for a great match.

Above all, may the best player win. Both are class acts who would want it that way, I'm sure.

Michael!

Apr 9th, 2012, 06:06 PM

meh, possible 2nd round against Muguruza and she also gets the toughest Qualifier of all :mad:
Rezai on clay can be more than dangerous obviously but Görges still should win that as Rezai still has huge problems with consitency and she also doesn´t look that fit anymore!
But you never know, it is a tough first match on clay for Julia obviously, she has to be ready and has to show a good match but we´ll see....Julia lost to some weak players on clay as well before, she can play amazing on clay but also can play quite bad ,same as on every other surface :lol:

CillyUltra

Apr 9th, 2012, 08:37 PM

Tough luck for Julia. I would have preferred to see her in Charleston than in one of those infamous cc Internationals. Would have been a better prep for the huge challenges that are in sight imo. Hopefully it will be more than a nice trip to Barna.

Vikapower

Apr 10th, 2012, 03:23 AM

Julia is ranked much higher, so it shouldn't be a surprised who will be favored. Aravane is coming back from serious family issues, a lack of motivation, and very inconsistent training. Will take time for her to regain her confidence and proper training habits. She herself recognizes this, and spoke candidly about it to me when we talked at Clearwater a few weeks ago.

But it shouldn't color or discredit what she is capapble of when she plays her best. She has winning H2Hs vs. Kvitova & Woz, has beaten Venus and Jankovic the last 2 times played when both were still relevant, beat Henin, Sharapova, Bartoli. A game away from wiping the floor with Serena at 6-3, 5-2...both losses to her were 3 sets. So it's not like she can't play.

In fact, from the several times I have seen both in person, I would say that she is better off the ground than Julia (more firepower, though her consistency can go in either direction, as I've seen Julia have some rotten days in this area herself), but her serve is clearly her liability, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. Julia will have a big advantage if she has even an average serving day. Also, Julia plays doubles and should have an advantage at the net, if she bothers venturing in.

My guess is that if Aravane hasn't tired herself out from the three qual matches--two of which went 3 sets--this will be a very good match with excellent potential to go three sets. If she runs out gas, it could be over quick. I'm hoping for a great match.

Above all, may the best player win. Both are class acts who would want it that way, I'm sure.

On that specific situation, well yikes, it's kind of uncomfortable -- I feel the same when Vika plays Julia [...] well the top player theoretically has to win but it feels really kind of weird to go against Julia so generally I just hope for a good match in three too whichever the outcome. :lol:

Aravane really has enormous firepower, it's hard to tell where she's at I haven't seen her for ages now but I know her great competitive spirit so she'll be though -- I mean most of the french players anyways are kind of totally invisible right now but at this very moment and the context where Julia has Stuttgart and Madrid to defend, I really really hope Julia wins Barcelona absolutely.

If Julia loses, well I'll be happy for Aravane but we sure do have lots of worries on our hands as the double-deciders Stuttgart/Madrid approaches just too quick for my liking but hey, well it is all inevitable and soon to become reality. :lol:

TBH I'm more scared about the outcome of these 2 tournaments than the outcome of Barcelona, the latter tournament is really just to put some confidence, take off some pressure before crunch. :sad:

Vikapower

Apr 10th, 2012, 03:31 AM

Tough luck for Julia. I would have preferred to see her in Charleston than in one of those infamous cc Internationals. Would have been a better prep for the huge challenges that are in sight imo. Hopefully it will be more than a nice trip to Barna.

:lol: Well me too considering the draws weren't the most difficult. I think she'd have defended her QF from last year --

But, this is an International event which largely in Julia's hands, 200 or 280 points, so let's hope she can add another title to her credit as vengeance against the resistance Dubai showed to her. :worship:

Re: Garbine, I was one of them. I saw her play in person both in Clearwater and Miami and was full of praise for her when reporting on the forum. Regardless of who wins tomorrow, "Mug" will be a huge test in R2, you can believe that.

I was curious as to how her big, aggressive game would translate to clay, but it appears she has no real issue with it.

As for what she looks like, if you like good-looking, Latin brunettes, it's all good. ;)

:lol: Well yes I believe that, I know she was very impressive with Miami so yes she'll be a though client for either Aravane or Julia --

:lol: Well thanks for the physical description though Julia would always win that specific battle whichever opponent she plays -- :lol: so at least we can be reassured on that specific department. :angel:

Anyways I'll profit to watch/observe Muguruza and probably come to like her - but before dislike her just a tad and temporarily if Julia suffers from her impertinence of the day until the crying, depression, clouds etc. dissipates lol just kidding. :lol:

Hope to see some good tennis now, this Charleston week has been the most boring -- :bounce:

Good start for Julia, I couldn´t watch the match but it similar like I expected it, it seems!
Rezai with a good start and some good play after 3 wins in a row in quali, so it was important for Julia to win the first set.
And that´s what she did, immediately was able to play on a decent level in her first match on clay this year!

Once Julia won the first set it was quite obvious that she would win 2nd set quite easy as well, Rezai just has no consistency and is also not really fit these days.
But hard to judge about Julia´s shape after such a match, those matches are never really pretty, Rezai just goes for every shot, it was even Julia who was more consistent these days, will be more interesting to see IMO when Julia herself will be the more aggressive player.

That´s why I am hoping for a match against Errani as well here, but first she has to beat dangerous Muguruza, not really sure what to expect from this match, that girl seems to be mega talented (never watched her, just read some comments).
So I guess, we have to hope for a good day of Julia and a bad day of the 18yo girl :shrug: :lol:

Vikapower

Apr 10th, 2012, 03:43 PM

I also read the comments though they're sometimes a tad hyperbolic -- I've seen comparisons to Del Potro, I've seen she strikes the ball similar to something like Lindsey Davenport -- I've read so many things that I don't really know where to stand at all -- :lol:

She seems super excessively good.

Anyways I'll see for myself and hopefully Julia doesn't mess up though aka that she doesn't come 100% with her head/game.

selesia

Apr 10th, 2012, 07:13 PM

I didn't see the game, but happy with the victory :bounce:

I saw an oncourt screen made by Lisickinator, and where are people from Barca ?? It's so small village, that there is no one to watch a match ? :lol:

Next match on Thursday?

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1612864484/112304755_normal.jpgJulia Goerges ‏ @juliagoerges
Won my first clay court match of the season against Rezai! well it was not that bad for the first match😜 pretty happy about it! massage now👍

Dispeker

Apr 10th, 2012, 07:15 PM

Only watched few minutes of the match – then my boss came in and I had to click it away :ras:. I basically just saw a bit of the conversation between Sascha and Julia and a few games of 1st set. She complained about the surface, called it „schleimig“ or „schlammig“ (slimy). Obviously they wet it beforehand because I didn't see any rain? Anyway, I'm glad that she managed to pull through.

maturedgirl

Apr 10th, 2012, 07:29 PM

She didn't feel so comfortable at the beginning and yes, it was raining slightly, later sun came out and she moved much better to force errors of Rezai with some nice winners. Loved the way she played. Good start anyway!:yeah:

always an eye candy Jule on clay ;)

CillyUltra

Apr 10th, 2012, 07:59 PM

Julia has to step up her game, but most important is that she increases confidence in the next matches with regard to the big task she's facing next week. Julia will probably be the no. 1 player in the Fed Cup tie against Australia, with Stosur in the team. That means an enormous pressure under which Sabine terribly crumbled last time.

Lisickifan84

Apr 10th, 2012, 08:49 PM

Julia has to step up her game, but most important is that she increases confidence in the next matches with regard to the big task she's facing next week. Julia will probably be the no. 1 player in the Fed Cup tie against Australia, with Stosur in the team. That means an enormous pressure under which Sabine terribly crumbled last time.

Now because Lisicki is out of Fed Cup :sad: Julia will be no. 1 and let's hope she can handle it better than Sabine the last time. She can do it :yeah:

selesia

Apr 10th, 2012, 11:49 PM

You all are forgetting Petkovic.
Lisicki was anyway a mess since last Fed Cup, so it was predictable that she will not play.
We'll see already tomorrow what Rittner prepared.

_inocencia_

Apr 11th, 2012, 08:44 AM

we're not forgetting petko, she is injured :eek::)
well julia as nr1 and mona as nr 2, if mona plays, they have good chances :yeah:

CillyUltra

Apr 11th, 2012, 11:38 AM

Andrea has been nominated and will probably be the no.1 player. That should reduce some pressure on Julia. Her match against Stosur would be on day one in this case.

CillyUltra

Apr 11th, 2012, 11:58 AM

Lisicki was anyway a mess since last Fed Cup, so it was predictable that she will not play.

Plain stupid. :tape:

She remained a viable contender for FC singles all along since Feb, if Petkovic wouldn't have been fit. Especially since Angie has played her last crucial FC match 4 years ago and her clay performance is unpredictable.

selesia

Apr 11th, 2012, 02:15 PM

it's only you, who write stupidity.
You made Julia No1 forgetting Petko :tape: and now you mistakes things :rolleyes: -
Lisicki herself gave up from the game in the Fed Cup and it was predictable...

Vikapower

Apr 11th, 2012, 02:18 PM

Andrea has been nominated and will probably be the no.1 player. That should reduce some pressure on Julia. Her match against Stosur would be on day one in this case.

Is Germany playing Australia ? If Julia is playing Sam TBH I'll not worry that much about pressure of n°1 etc. :lol:

Sam is a very good match up from Julia.

CillyUltra

Apr 11th, 2012, 03:19 PM

You made Julia No1 forgetting Petko :tape: and now you mistakes things :rolleyes: -

No one expected this tbh and it's a rather risky move by Rittner. In the end we aren't in close contact with Andrea as Rittner is, except maybe you, who seems to have insider knowledge. :lol:

Lisicki herself gave up from the game in the Fed Cup and it was predictable...
She didn't gave up, she just became tight, her confidence hit rock-bottom, typical things that happens when pressure is too high and we don't know if that happens to Julia in her FC matches too.

CillyUltra

Apr 11th, 2012, 03:19 PM

Is Germany playing Australia ? If Julia is playing Sam TBH I'll not worry that much about pressure of n°1 etc. :lol:

Sam is a very good match up from Julia.

The DTB site says that Petkovic will lead the German team, but I don't know if that really means her no.1 position is a done deal or Julia will be the leading player. Anyway, I think a match against Stosur wouldn't be an easy task, rather 50/50, as there is a much higher pressure in FC than on the regular tour and this is a must-win tie, otherwise the German team will be relegated to WG II. FC isn't really a big deal in Germany (as in most countries), but the German players just love to play in a team and in front of a home crowd, since there aren't so many possibilities for them to do that.

Vikapower

Apr 11th, 2012, 04:35 PM

The DTB site says that Petkovic will lead the German team, but I don't know if that really means her no.1 position is a done deal or Julia will be the leading player. Anyway, I think a match against Stosur wouldn't be an easy task, rather 50/50, as there is a much higher pressure in FC than on the regular tour and this is a must-win tie, otherwise the German team will be relegated to WG II. FC isn't really a big deal in Germany (as in most countries), but the German players just love to play in a team and in front of a home crowd, since there aren't so many possibilities for them to do that.

Well yeah I understand -- TBH the way Julia played Petra Kvitova in Stuttgart in a crucial match too if we remember where Sabine had lost her first one let's me believe Julia will not be succumbing under pressure.

She really played Petra to win and should have probably won that match.

Will it be played in Stuttgart or any other in Germany ? Anyways, the preceding plus that Julia is really a bad match up for Sammy makes me think Julia will have the edge.

Vikapower

Apr 11th, 2012, 05:04 PM

BTW does someone have captions or knowledge about her W/UE and opponents in these matches : Toronto versus Jelena, Stuttgart versus Sabine/Krajicek and Madrid versus Nastya Pavlyuchenkova. I've been trying to collect all these for her with more or less success lol, I'd like also Stuttgart 2010 and Linz too.

mk27

Apr 11th, 2012, 05:22 PM

BTW does someone have captions or knowledge about her W/UE and opponents in these matches : Toronto versus Jelena, Stuttgart versus Sabine/Krajicek and Madrid versus Nastya Pavlyuchenkova. I've been trying to collect all these for her with more or less success lol, I'd like also Stuttgart 2010 and Linz too.

Here are the stats from Toronto against Jankovic

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6130/jankovicd.jpg

and the stats from Madrid against Pavlyuchenkova

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4320/pavlyuchenkova.jpg

Unfortunately Eurosport didn't show the stats in her matches against Lisicki and Krajicek afterwards.

CillyUltra

Apr 11th, 2012, 05:25 PM

Well yeah I understand -- TBH the way Julia played Petra Kvitova in Stuttgart in a crucial match too if we remember where Sabine had lost her first one let's me believe Julia will not be succumbing under pressure.

She really played Petra to win and should have probably won that match.

Will it be played in Stuttgart or any other in Germany ? Anyways, the preceding plus that Julia is really a bad match up for Sammy makes me think Julia will have the edge.

It's played in Stuttgart on the clay court of the Porsche Cup and the crowd really pushed Julia forward, so naturally it should be a setting that favors Julia. :)

But the match against Kvitova was a nothing-to-lose... hopefully Julia plays as no.2 against (Aussie no.1) Stosur on day one, so that there won't be that must-win pressure of a day two encounter (with the tie at 1-1).

Lisickifan84

Apr 11th, 2012, 05:36 PM

Well yeah I understand -- TBH the way Julia played Petra Kvitova in Stuttgart in a crucial match too if we remember where Sabine had lost her first one let's me believe Julia will not be succumbing under pressure.

She really played Petra to win and should have probably won that match.

Will it be played in Stuttgart or any other in Germany ? Anyways, the preceding plus that Julia is really a bad match up for Sammy makes me think Julia will have the edge.

I remember that nobody gave Julia a chance to win that match. She was "only" number 2 and no one did expect a win against the czech number 1 and world number 3. I don't know if she would withstand the pressure but I hope she will be, if there is someday a similar situation like it was for Sabine in Fed Cup :)

Yes in Stuttgart.
I'm gonna see Julia again and she helps me a little bit to come over that Sabine is out.

Rovegun

Apr 11th, 2012, 06:42 PM

@Lisickifan enjoy and take many photos of Jule, bitte :D

will the tie be televised? I mean ARD or ZDF could have a coverage....

Lisickifan84

Apr 11th, 2012, 06:57 PM

@Lisickifan enjoy and take many photos of Jule, bitte :D

will the tie be televised? I mean ARD or ZDF could have a coverage....

Yes I will enjoy my time in Stuttgart. Maybe Sabine will be there like Petko in February. Julia is always nice to see of course ;)
I don't know if I will take many pictures. Hopefully Julia will win in straight sets and then I guess I will be more relaxt in the match and can make many pictures.

Somewhere I've read something because of TV coverage. Maybe in the Fed Cup Thread?
No ARD or ZDF, but another TV Channel will broadcast on Saturday or Sunday, I don't know exactly.

mk27

Apr 11th, 2012, 07:06 PM

Somewhere I've read something because of TV coverage. Maybe in the Fed Cup Thread?
No ARD or ZDF, but another TV Channel will broadcast on Saturday or Sunday, I don't know exactly.

EinsPlus

maturedgirl

Apr 11th, 2012, 07:51 PM

Tomorrow on CC in Barcelona

3.match: Garbiñe Muguruza Blanco vs. Julia Goerges (NB 15.00hrs)

Vikapower

Apr 11th, 2012, 10:51 PM

It's played in Stuttgart on the clay court of the Porsche Cup and the crowd really pushed Julia forward, so naturally it should be a setting that favors Julia. :)

But the match against Kvitova was a nothing-to-lose... hopefully Julia plays as no.2 against (Aussie no.1) Stosur on day one, so that there won't be that must-win pressure of a day two encounter (with the tie at 1-1).

:lol: Ok. Hopefully a win in Barcelona will boost her confidence. ;)

I remember that nobody gave Julia a chance to win that match. She was "only" number 2 and no one did expect a win against the czech number 1 and world number 3. I don't know if she would withstand the pressure but I hope she will be, if there is someday a similar situation like it was for Sabine in Fed Cup :)

Yes in Stuttgart.
I'm gonna see Julia again and she helps me a little bit to come over that Sabine is out.

I hope you'll get some pics. :devil:

Well to be honest it was kind of understandable but Julia came impressively in that match and made Petra doubt a lot --

Julia always seems to play well in Stuttgart -- well we'll see.

When Julia played and lost her match against Petra she carried a pretty impressive form on the regular tour so I hope we'll get the same dynamic when she wins :lol: -- she'll really need it in the up-coming weeks. ;)

Vikapower

Apr 11th, 2012, 10:53 PM

Tomorrow on CC in Barcelona

3.match: Garbiñe Muguruza Blanco vs. Julia Goerges (NB 15.00hrs)

Good luck Julia :cheer:

selesia

Apr 11th, 2012, 11:17 PM

She didn't gave up, she just became tight, her confidence hit rock-bottom, typical things that happens when pressure is too high and we don't know if that happens to Julia in her FC matches too.

I wrote that the behavior of Sabine for the past two months indicated that she will not want to play in Fed Cup. She still is in a depression after the last FC... (and probably has a personal problems too).
I think that Julia is different in this matter after all. Sabine herself made a lot of pressure on herself by giving many interviews bevore last FC in which she assured, that she will win... She did the same campaign as Rittner. She overreacted with this "leading the team". It was unwise. Julia is a much more shy, toned down and she stands firmly on the ground (good Howard ? :P ). It is good to have low expectations and enjoy any success than the reverse. Sabine had/has too big expectations for herself and she clearly can not carry this.

:lol: Ok. Hopefully a win in Barcelona will boost her confidence. ;)

:rocker:

Julia always seems to play well in Stuttgart -- well we'll see.
When Julia played and lost her match against Petra she carried a pretty impressive form on the regular tour (...)

To be more accurate - Julia recently get a special fire and speed after Fed Cup week. Stuttgart 2011 was after training with Fed Cup Team, this match with Kvitova and the Paris tourney 2012 (it flopped in the 3rd match).
I wonder whether such a fitness workout, which they did during FC week is special suitable for her or maybe a good atmosphere in the team and some fun chills her.
Maybe this time she will keep this fire to the RG

selesia

Apr 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM

wow Schiavone and Pennetta are out already... :eek:
Hopefully this new Spanish talent isn't that scary and Julia is able to use it.

Somewhere I've read something because of TV coverage. Maybe in the Fed Cup Thread?
No ARD or ZDF, but another TV Channel will broadcast on Saturday or Sunday, I don't know exactly.

EinsPlus

thanks guys! so I am going to switch on Tv between your and our girls :D

selesia

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:10 PM

It seems like Govortsova and LPT are going to appear all afternoon and evening :( So I won't see the Julia's game :sad: When it gets dark in Spain ? :lol:

Rovegun

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:14 PM

don´t worry we will get to see Julia as soon as possible... I hope Govortsova and LPT won´t play another pretty long set :D

Dispeker

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:26 PM

No way Rovegun, this match will take forever. I predict Pous-Tio to win 6-7 7-6 7-6(169-167). Should be Saturday then.

selesia

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:32 PM

:lol:

CillyUltra

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:38 PM

don´t worry we will get to see Julia as soon as possible... I hope Govortsova and LPT won´t play another pretty long set :D

Would have loved to see Julia's face when it went into a 3rd set. 4 hours of hanging around at a tourney like BCN isn't that stunning. :lol:

Rovegun

Apr 12th, 2012, 04:59 PM

No way Rovegun, this match will take forever. I predict Pous-Tio to win 6-7 7-6 7-6(169-167). Should be Saturday then.

:lol: waiting for your apologize :D

Would have loved to see Julia's face when it went into a 3rd set. 4 hours of hanging around at a tourney like BCN isn't that stunning. :lol:

:lol: if her expression in the face looked like that when the ballboys don´t give her the right balls I would be scared to walk past her :lol:

_inocencia_

Apr 12th, 2012, 07:21 PM

good win 4 jule :yeah:
errani next, it is going to be tough, but i think jule can pull it :)

Vikapower

Apr 12th, 2012, 07:21 PM

:lol: Julia wins saw none of it but I'll download the match and see what exactly happened -- pretty messy match apparently but Julia won so I only care about that. :lol: Muguruza seems like pretty very promising and I still haven't seen a single strike from her :eek:

Next is Errani right ? :unsure: Julia in a good day should get the win with some ease/margin but Errani is really very feisty and could bring Julia in the mud to fight her heart out. :lol: I know Julia is capable of that she showed it many times but 2 times in row we'll see. :lol:

Good luck Julia :cheer: -- :hysteric: and God please make I can see at least one match Live, just one. :hysteric:

HowardH

Apr 12th, 2012, 07:22 PM

Quite a battle that was. There's no doubt that this Garbine girl can play some very good tennis. Almost the inverse kind of forehand to Julia- a compact swing, still generating pretty good power, allowing her to take it early, which gave Julia quite a lot of trouble, and a solid bh as well. Julia wasn't serving at her best for quite a large part of the match but she managed to pull it out against a pretty dangerous opponent.

Muguruza's tendency to make the odd DF turning 0-15 scores into 0-30 ones helped Julia quite a bit. If she fixes that she will be quite a handful.

Michael!

Apr 12th, 2012, 07:31 PM

Serve was main problem today!
1st set Julia came back from break down to win the set 75,that was really good, showed that she is the more experienced player there and also took advantage of Muguruzas DFs!
But she has to win it in two sets then, 2nd set was pretty awful, her serve was just useless, I expected her to hold serve at least again at 4-4 or 5-5 when it was most important but she didn´t even manage that and it was clear then that it would go into a third set.

Here the Spanish girl seemed a bit tired, a few DFs again, better serving from Julia, especially in her first service games!
Getting broken to love when serving for the match at *51 is just typical Julia, shouldn´t happen but Muguruza couldnt take advantage of that anymore.

Barcelona is some kind of warm up anyway for the important events to come (FedCup, Stuttgart, Madrid etc.), so I don´t expect Julia to play her best tennis here but it is important for her to get some matches and wins here.
Next is Errani, another good test for her, will be totally different than today, Julia will be the one who makes the winners but also the UEs.
Julia will have to play agressive if she wants to beat Errani. Good serve, good returns, really important if you play against someone like Errani. Julia just has to try to dominate the rallies immediately but is not allowed to make too many UEs.

But it won´t be easy, Errani can be really tough but it is in Julia´s hands obviously, she will win or lose that match herself :lol:

Vikapower

Apr 12th, 2012, 07:45 PM

Barcelona is some kind of warm up anyway for the important events to come (FedCup, Stuttgart, Madrid etc.), so I don´t expect Julia to play her best tennis here but it is important for her to get some matches and wins here.

I hope it's that :unsure: and it's not a problem more in core. Julia can really not allow herself to under-perform which might create a negative spiral for her game the up-coming weeks.

There's no problem if Barcelona is a practice but with Julia who's not yet stable in her game yet I'm really scared she under-performs all this event and carries this on for the next weeks -- :unsure: She really not yet can not allow herself to voluntarily play 50-60% certain the next match she'll raise her level radically I think with her unpredictability. :lol:

Ideally, I would prefer she plays decent but solid tennis not peak and like a spring-board she can use that to build upon -- just like after the loss in Fed Cup against Petra Kvitova. She really used that positive dynamic well.

:lol: This match seemed decent from the overall comments but not solid at all.

CillyUltra

Apr 12th, 2012, 08:16 PM

http://s19.postimage.org/70orx9ta7/112304755_normal.jpg Julia Goerges ‏@juliagoerges
Played a great match against a very talented girl today!happy to be
through to the quarters!2nd after 12.45 pm against Errani tmrw!

rucolo

Apr 12th, 2012, 09:37 PM

Glad Julia won and reached Barcelona QF! :cheer:

Muguruza is a dangerous opponent. Tall with a strong serve, and hits very hard. Especially her forehand. Julia won the rallies when she was the active one, attacking the ball. That`s the only way to win.

I`m worried about Errani to be honest. She`s a wall, very consistent. Julia has to serve and move well. If she wants to reach the SF here, Julia definitely has to improve. Auf geht`s, Julia, mach sie platt!

Rovegun

Apr 12th, 2012, 09:54 PM

great that Julia won after a tough battle.. it´s going to be pretty tough against Errani she returns almost every ball but Julia has to play her game and mainly she has to have a good morning :)

CillyUltra

Apr 12th, 2012, 10:37 PM

:lol: Julia wins saw none of it but I'll download the match and see what exactly happened -- pretty messy match apparently but Julia won so I only care about that. :lol: Muguruza seems like pretty very promising and I still haven't seen a single strike from her :eek:

Good luck Julia :cheer: -- :hysteric: and God please make I can see at least one match Live, just one. :hysteric:
My deepest condolences that your internet didn't worked. I recently read an article about French presidential candidates making promises to tackle problems in overseas departments like (youth) unemployment and high food prices. Maybe they should put this on their agenda too. :lol:

I hope it's that :unsure: and it's not a problem more in core. Julia can really not allow herself to under-perform which might create a negative spiral for her game the up-coming weeks.

There's no problem if Barcelona is a practice but with Julia who's not yet stable in her game yet I'm really scared she under-performs all this event and carries this on for the next weeks -- :unsure: She really not yet can not allow herself to voluntarily play 50-60% certain the next match she'll raise her level radically I think with her unpredictability. :lol:

As I implied it, I don't think this is a tourney where she can play her best. Winning these ugly, close matches (where she's the clear favorite) and getting confidence, experience, is very valuable for her to become more consistent, to live up to her ranking. But clearly, she has to raise her level at the upcoming challenges. So it would be important to see some movement in that direction.

Vikapower

Apr 13th, 2012, 12:23 AM

My deepest condolences that your internet didn't worked. I recently read an article about French presidential candidates making promises to tackle problems in overseas departments like (youth) unemployment and high food prices. Maybe they should put this on their agenda too. :lol:

:sobbing: Thanks for the re-comfort Cilly unfortunately by the time the measures they would decide for that enters in action, Julia's matches in Barcelona would be over. :lol:

:lol: They do have lots of promises but a lot to do for the DOM-TOM -- don't worry in all the years I've lived there I've heard these in 2002, 2007 basically the 2 presidential I've had the opportunities to live. 2012 : :zzz:

As I implied it, I don't think this is a tourney where she can play her best. Winning these ugly, close matches (where she's the clear favorite) and getting confidence, experience, is very valuable for her to become more consistent, to live up to her ranking. But clearly, she has to raise her level at the upcoming challenges. So it would be important to see some movement in that direction.

Well yes I agree with you -- but Julia is so unpredictable though, will she raise her level if she doesn't play well in Barcelona ? :hysteric: That's why I want this tournament as a trampoline to ride on some kind of positive form from which she'll be much more comfortable.

I'm really doubtful on Julia's faculty to do Clijsters' or Serenas, play 40% in average per round and when it matters the most to just bring the good -- she's damn too unstable for that. :lol:

We all agree that this tournament factually really doesn't mean much unless from an achievement stand-point just to at least win an event in 2012 and take title #3 as a revenge to Dubai -- :lol: but the real deal starts from the 21st. of this month. :sobbing:

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 12:25 AM

Good thing she won :worship:

really annoying day :( I didn't see the first round play and now I saw only about 10 minutes of the match, then I had to go... I economized a time about 15h, but these super power girls, who played with a speed of Hurricane before Juliet' game made my day :toothy: Thanks organizers :p
I should remember that matches on clay can take half of a day... I will learn from it :oh:

@Vikapower, we have to take this tournament so as Julia do - as a preparation for bigger things :lol:
but seriously - probably some dns server had failure and didn't directed signals of broadcasting to your location. You probably also couldn't connect to broadcast servers. The next time will be better ;)

I saw only part of the game where MB played strongly but made many df, and Julia practically threw everything on out. Fortunately, afterwards had to be better for Jule, although your relations don't look good....
Still no service? From statistics she had a 63% of the first serve. It's pretty good :scratch: But the truth is, that she gave many of her service games.
Good returns of Spanish girl to the second serves... :eek: Also courts are heavy in Barca and lousy weather.

Will see how it'll be with Errani. I hope Julia will serve well.
:cheer:

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 12:33 AM

(...)
Julia is so unpredictable though, will she raise her level if she doesn't play well in Barcelona ? :hysteric:

She will do it during Fed Cup week (as I wrote yesterday). She'll get fire and speed.

That's why I want this tournament as a trampoline to ride on some kind of positive form from which she'll be much more comfortable.

C'mon she is still in the tourney http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Girls/wikiline_DS.gif Don't panic bro http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Girls/smilie_girl_233.gif http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Girls/smilie_girl_112.gif

_inocencia_

Apr 13th, 2012, 05:37 AM

i've read most of your post, and i have to say that i don't agree with some...
julia struggled to finish it up, julia struggled with UE, bot not with a serve. amazingly, her opponent just raised up her game unbeleivable while receiveng.
she hit some really stunning returns. and really, it's not like muguruza did not hit some good stuff, there was a few really good change of directions. because most of julia balls are sharp and flat, and it is very hard to put them back properly., you really can't blame muguruza 4 not getting more from other side of court :). i agree with vikapower, julia will lose or win HERSELF. errani is really non-existent opponent 4 type of a playe like julia. she has no serve, no weapons, she's just fighter with good defence

edit : i'm sorry if my english is not too good, i learned in highschool, so i forgot a lot. LOL

CillyUltra

Apr 13th, 2012, 05:46 AM

"Garbiñe is a really talented player. She's very young with great skills, and she has all the makings to be a good player," Goerges said. "The great result at Miami is not a surprise and from now on we'll see her at this level I'm sure.

"It was a tough match today, not just physically hard, but mentally too. I was trying to stay focused on hitting deep and looking for angles to move her."

Goerges' own breakthrough stretch came in last year's clay season, where she won her first Premier title and had two wins over then-World No.1 Caroline Wozniacki. "I'm in the best moments of my career at the moment, and the start of the clay court season is really important to me," the German said. "My goal is to take it one match at a time and prepare my best for Roland Garros."

i've read most of your post, and i have to say that i don't agree with some...
julia struggled to finish it up, julia struggled with UE, bot not with a serve. amazingly, her opponent just raised up her game unbeleivable while receiveng.
she hit some really stunning returns. and really, it's not like muguruza did not hit some good stuff, there was a few really good change of directions. because most of julia balls are sharp and flat, and it is very hard to put them back properly., you really can't blame muguruza 4 not getting more from other side of court :). i agree with vikapower, julia will lose or win HERSELF. errani is really non-existent opponent 4 type of a playe like julia. she has no serve, no weapons, she's just fighter with good defence

edit : i'm sorry if my english is not too good, i learned in highschool, so i forgot a lot. LOL

Finally somebody who has a similar meaning about this match like me.:lol:
It was not a very good match of Julia but a relatively good one I think.

Despite many errors which where mostly forced by the pace and lack of movements of both players it was nice to watch and everything else but boring. Julia hit many winners as her opponent and at times it was a high quality match.
Her service was not always working but that was also caused by Garbine`s good return.
Julia produced some beautiful tennis and angles mostly with her forehand as we know her when she`s on. The very slow surface and the match-up for sure was in her favor.
In the deciding moments in the first and third set she was focused and right there to take it.
So I can`t find many reasons to complain about her performance.
Garbine showed her great talent with powerful, flat ground strokes but also smart net play at times. Some changes of pace would have done well to disturb Julia`s game.
The permanent double faulting might have been forced by her shoulder problems (?), but Julia`s deep and flat returns might have impressed her too. Anyway a very promising player.

Errani is a totally different match-up and I wouldn`t be surprised to see a much more ugly match and Julia eventually struggling.
Hope she can keep her composure playing against a solid wall on clay like Errani.

maturedgirl

Apr 13th, 2012, 11:37 AM

only about an hour before her QF vs. Errani, Julia still joking on twitter :lol:
she's crazy :devil:

HowardH

Apr 13th, 2012, 11:46 AM

only about an hour before her QF vs. Errani, Julia still joking on twitter :lol:
she's crazy :devil:

It's all in German so I don't quite get it. They seem to be discussing shopping for souvenirs or something like that.

Rovegun

Apr 13th, 2012, 01:34 PM

only about an hour before her QF vs. Errani, Julia still joking on twitter :lol:
she's crazy :devil:

I understand well... Poppenbütten is a part of Hamburg if I googled the right name? but I don´t find their chat so much funny :D maybe I completely didn´t get it...

Johnbert

Apr 13th, 2012, 01:58 PM

hm, well... :help:

Vikapower

Apr 13th, 2012, 01:58 PM

She will do it during Fed Cup week (as I wrote yesterday). She'll get fire and speed.

:lol: Well Silesia I hope you are anything but right really -- :lol:

Let's hope Fed Cup will be a motive enough for Julia to raise her level because this last match is pretty damn worrying. :lol: It looks even worst than yesterday's and I distaste her indolent, nonchalant attitude [...] the tournament being an MM or something !? :scratch:

Have no idea but she never really looked liked she wanted to play here no ? :lol: We'll see in the future.

Michael!

Apr 13th, 2012, 01:59 PM

well, sorry, but it is just frustrating and disgusting to see how bad Julia can be on a bad day, just horrible!
Barcelona wasn´t the most important tournament for sure but I still expected a bit more at least.
Her serve was awful again, as often lately, she has to work on that and just too many UEs, no patience, bad movement, just bad!

But as some others said, she seems just clueless when things aren´t going her well and also sad to see that she isn´t able to fight in such situations, she said before that she learned to fight, even on a bad day but the problem is that she needs help from their opponents then as well. She wasn´t able to fight today as Errani didn´t give her any free points but that was no surprise, easier to get back into a match when your opponent starts making silly errors as well as it was against Kuznetsova but today she wasn´t able to fight back at all. She also wasted those 2 Bps at 34*, after that it was clear anyway.

Well, but I am not too pessimistic but also not too optmistic, it is just typical Julia, rollercoaster career, up and down, good and bad but she won´t get any higher in rankings with that kind of play obviously, u need to be more consistent if you wanna achieve more!

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:04 PM

Shortly I will write a petition to Rittner, because they certainly have to bring Jule to the order during FC week, like last year and after the famous Radwanska AO game :lol:

buu :sad:

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:12 PM

she said before that she learned to fight, even on a bad day but the problem is that she needs help from their opponents then as well. She wasn´t able to fight today as Errani didn´t give her any free points

No, the problem today was, that she hadn't desire play. She moved sleepily, like a fly in a tar...
If she doesn't want to win, she won't win.

I think it was her worst match since Radwanska at AO and in a similar way unworthy.
Julia usually at least has to offer some fighting spirit on the court but today she was for whatever reason in every way just not existent.

Agree

Vikapower

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:14 PM

:lol: I'm going to change the title of thread ASAP to forget about Barcelona lol --

Barcelona never existed, Julia never played in Barcelona -- and her clay season starts now in Fed Cup ; so what are you all predictions for Julia first clay court match against Australia, should be fun. :angel:

--> I did a good thing to say "Our adventures" being a hard-core supporter of Julia is like as risky as Indianna Jones or Lara Croft in these dangerous jungles. :haha:

Michael!

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:18 PM

No, the problem today was, that she hadn't desire play. She moved sleepily, like a fly in a tar...
If she doesn't want to win, she won't win.

sure, it is terrible to play someone like Errani then if you don´t have desire to play, u are down, nothing works and your opponent playing all balls back. But I meant that if you play someone like Kuznetsova then u get some chances here and there without doing anything as u take advantage of silly errors and then it is easier to get fight back obviously when u realize that u have a chance! Today it was all up to her and that was the problem.

But I also think that she didn´t like Barcelona that much, complained about conditions, bad attitude, she doesn´t play that many International tournaments anymore anyway, I really think that she never was 100% motivated it, wanted to get some matches on clay before she plays FedCup and Stuttgart. Her start last year into the clay season was horrible as well in South America.
It is still disappointing to see how bad Julia can be on a bad day but I am quite sure that she will play one good clay tournament this year as well at least.
But as I said before, Julia needs to learn how to win on bad days as well, has to work on her attitude if she wants to make the next step in her career!

HowardH

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:19 PM

Well, from all accounts she played without a lot of energy and Sara (as usual) made her work for it and didn't give her anything for free.

I don't know the reason for her lack of energy, but it's not possible to play against Errani on clay without using a fairly large amount of energy. That's how she makes her living. She's small and doesn't have a big serve, but she makes sure that you will have to expend a lot of energy to beat her.

Vikapower

Apr 13th, 2012, 02:33 PM

sure, it is terrible to play someone like Errani then if you don´t have desire to play, u are down, nothing works and your opponent playing all balls back. But I meant that if you play someone like Kuznetsova then u get some chances here and there without doing anything as u take advantage of silly errors and then it is easier to get fight back obviously when u realize that u have a chance! Today it was all up to her and that was the problem.

But I also think that she didn´t like Barcelona that much, complained about conditions, bad attitude, she doesn´t play that many International tournaments anymore anyway, I really think that she never was 100% motivated it, wanted to get some matches on clay before she plays FedCup and Stuttgart. Her start last year into the clay season was horrible as well in South America.
It is still disappointing to see how bad Julia can be on a bad day but I am quite sure that she will play one good clay tournament this year as well at least.
But as I said before, Julia needs to learn how to win on bad days as well, has to work on her attitude if she wants to make the next step in her career!

Julia is not in a stage of her game where she can spit on small tournaments at all -- I really hope for her sake she doesn't adopt that attitude because her record in the biggies is extremely dire/mediocre/sub-par --

Personally I've always called this attitude from Julia when she doesn't put in the efforts to work the opponent at the body instead of attempting these wild shots : arrogant -- simple as that.

She refuses to bow down to the task and like Howard made remark you can't play Errani without going in the mud with her, it's a constant fight/battle ; I remember I said that pre-match too.

When Julia is playing bad she really sincerely thinks she'll prevail by attempting highlight shots etc., playing an arrogant style of play unfortunately, that's not how tennis works and there are too much negative parameters with Julia when you're name isn't Federer :lol: though both have similar styles of play with the forehand/turning around the backhand. :devil:

Julia knows it, she's with Nensel, he's a tactical coach -- it's Julia who just rebels, something she adopts because we all know Julia can keep/apply tactics correctly, we all know she knows perfectly what to do but "refuses" to. We'll see in the future how she rebounds from this.

If she didn't want to play Barcelona then she should be able to up her level drastically in types of tournaments she thinks she should be playing now on a regular basis, Premier 700, Mandatories, Premier 5 + Fed Cup -- let's see if she'll be able to answer the questions in the biggies. :lol:

Rovegun

Apr 13th, 2012, 03:09 PM

I was watching the match only with one eye open but... Julia is quite that kind of a player like Lucie Safarova or other girls with similar game style... when she has a good day she can beat anyone but on bad day she struggles a lot.... I really like Julia´s play her strong strokes, fantastic forehand etc. but sometimes she should be patient especially on clay... I know it is tough to play claycourtes such as Errani but against such players you have to be patient much more than usually because they return almost every ball back over the net and they are able to do that all the time of the match... so it is sometimes much easier to play aggressive players because they give you a few chances in the match as Julia does as well... it´s always tougher when everything depends on you and your strokes going in/out....

Barcelona can look like a practice tournament before Fed Cup but I wouldn´t underrate it because the participation here and playing some matches can really help her in the Fed Cup against Aussie.... I believe Julia wil be in form in Stuttgart again she loves that place she always plays very well there and has many good memories from there....

I also believe Julia´s time on clay court tournaments will come as last year...

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 09:41 PM

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1612864484/112304755_normal.jpgJulia Goerges ‏ @juliagoerges
Lost my quarters today. still a good tour ament when i see how my preparation was! 1 day hitting on clay before getting here+6 days of antibiotics! energy will come back... back to germany tmrw! seeing my other teammates and friends on sunday for fed cup!👍 looking forward to it!!!

:eek: :sad:

Don't know even what to write...

LinusVanPelt

Apr 13th, 2012, 09:48 PM

Taking medications(and antibiotics are pretty heavy stuff) all the time- is not a healthy thing. She shouldnt take antibiotics every time she feels bad. Antibiotics are bad for health in long term. Maybe this the reason why she is so fragile.

Rovegun

Apr 13th, 2012, 10:02 PM

yeah, antibiotics aren´t much good for the body in long term... maybe I am a bit lucky I haven´t had to take them so far... I can´t imagine how much tough it has to be to play with antibiotics but still she´s not forced to play with them IMO... but still Julia hasn´t won so much money so far in her career so maybe it is the only reason to play with them...

selesia

Apr 13th, 2012, 10:15 PM

:rolleyes:

If she wouldn't play when she is sick, then is taking antibiotics and then she is weak , she would left half of the season.

The problem isn't that she plays with antibiotics, but that she is still ill, she takes antibiotics and has a weak immune system.

Poor Julia :sad:

Michael!

Apr 13th, 2012, 10:30 PM

well, didn´t know that she had to take antibiotics, that explains why she seemed so tired already, not easy then to play someone like Errani!
And I mean, if you are sick then you have to take antibiotics, I mean, she could try it to get healthy without any antibiotics but that is quite dangerous as it could even take longer then to get fit!

Was definitely the right decision to skip Charleston and now it will take just some time more until she is at 100% again.

Skoo

Apr 13th, 2012, 11:03 PM

Yeah, antibiotics shouldn't produce fatigue, only perhaps indirectly, by causing diarrhea or vomiting. The concerning fact is, obviously, that she is ill so often. I hope it is obvious to her, or someone around her, that there is an underlying problem that must be solved.

HowardH

Apr 14th, 2012, 05:18 AM

So she was sick. That makes sense, given how she played.

Taking medications(and antibiotics are pretty heavy stuff) all the time- is not a healthy thing. She shouldnt take antibiotics every time she feels bad. Antibiotics are bad for health in long term. Maybe this the reason why she is so fragile.

yeah, antibiotics aren´t much good for the body in long term... maybe I am a bit lucky I haven´t had to take them so far... I can´t imagine how much tough it has to be to play with antibiotics but still she´s not forced to play with them IMO... but still Julia hasn´t won so much money so far in her career so maybe it is the only reason to play with them...

I realise that sometimes it's important to take antibiotics, however the point Snoopy and Rovegun make here is also valid. In general it's best to take antibiotics only when you really need them, because taking them too often causes a number of problems to do with your immune system, secondary infections, drug resistance, and also your gut.

We can't really tell how often Julia has taken antibiotics in the past, but if she took them many times for minor things as a child and as a teenager it would explain her apparently weaker immune system.

I am curious- what was she taking antibiotics for in this case? Despite the common myth, they are actually ineffective against the viruses which cause colds and flus and should not be taken for these things. So I can only presume she had a bacterial infection? Either that or she tends to take them too often.

joy division

Apr 14th, 2012, 06:11 AM

In addition to all the posts in that concern

As the name says it`s anti-biotic, means it does not just kill "bad" bacterias but also the intestinal flora and leucocytes. In this way it weakens the body defense acutely.
Some people recover better and quicker than other of treatments like this.
When you take it more frequently, as Julia does, it can weaken the body defense chronically and you are also prone to get ill more frequently. You can get in a doom loop there - permanently weakening your body and taking medicaments to heal it and so on.
We were talking about that earlier and it`s pretty obvious that there is a context.
Julia does not know what kind of illness she has, she was talking about a little virus on twitter last week. Don`t know about her doc but he probably also doesn`t.
As Howard said, every little child knows that antibiotics don`t help against viral infections.

In Germany many doctors prescribe "broadband" antibiotics without precious diagnosis and do a lot of damage with it. They take a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
This silly custom is beside other things mainly caused by the German medical juristic system and there are also commercial interests. The patients don`t care about it, because they mostly trust in what the docs are doing and have no clue about other ways to handle this kind of illness.
In the Netherlands for instants you can`t get antibiotics without a precious diagnosis because they recognized the dangerous consequences in taking randomly antibiotics and building up resistant bacterias.

What kind of illness she might have right now, it seems to be not not acutely life-threatening. That`s the only case where you should really take antibiotics.
There are many other much more healthy and effective treatments in longer terms to heal viral and also bacterial infections even when your body already is weakened by taking too many antibiotics. Nutrition also plays a big role.
Julia and the people who are surrounding her have to face the question whether the reckless use of these medicaments still can be continued. There is more damage than use in it.

_inocencia_

Apr 14th, 2012, 02:56 PM

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1612864484/112304755_normal.jpgJulia Goerges ‏ @juliagoerges
Lost my quarters today. still a good tour ament when i see how my preparation was! 1 day hitting on clay before getting here+6 days of antibiotics! energy will come back... back to germany tmrw! seeing my other teammates and friends on sunday for fed cup!👍 looking forward to it!!!

:eek: :sad:

Don't know even what to write...
:facepalm: no wonder errani "killed her". get well soon, i'm on antibiotics to lol :kiss:

_inocencia_

Apr 14th, 2012, 02:59 PM

well, sorry, but it is just frustrating and disgusting to see how bad Julia can be on a bad day, just horrible!
Barcelona wasn´t the most important tournament for sure but I still expected a bit more at least.
Her serve was awful again, as often lately, she has to work on that and just too many UEs, no patience, bad movement, just bad!

But as some others said, she seems just clueless when things aren´t going her well and also sad to see that she isn´t able to fight in such situations, she said before that she learned to fight, even on a bad day but the problem is that she needs help from their opponents then as well. She wasn´t able to fight today as Errani didn´t give her any free points but that was no surprise, easier to get back into a match when your opponent starts making silly errors as well as it was against Kuznetsova but today she wasn´t able to fight back at all. She also wasted those 2 Bps at 34*, after that it was clear anyway.

Well, but I am not too pessimistic but also not too optmistic, it is just typical Julia, rollercoaster career, up and down, good and bad but she won´t get any higher in rankings with that kind of play obviously, u need to be more consistent if you wanna achieve more!

yes it was pure tragedy, i agree, losing to errani... and the way she lost, disaster, but she was half ill, lack of training so :(

Vikapower

Apr 14th, 2012, 03:04 PM

Whatever Julia has, her tendencies to be sick all the time really needs to be resolved somehow -- being brain sick, tennis sick, etc. sick [...] are really way too much illness for just one to carry and expect to perform at high professional level efficiently.

IK the physique influences the game but nothing means anyways with Julia that would she have been 100% she would have performed much better. The instability in her game doesn't really allow such certainties and we know she's a roller-coaster even if certainly her illness did influence somehow her performance from yesterday.

The limit is very small but IK Julia's game/tennis, IK the way she functions on court and you just can not be certain with her and how she will play from a day to another even when she seems/is 100% with herself -- so I tend to not read too much into these excuses considering the latter facts --

Sara Errani from afar seems pretty small and danger less but she's really a difficult to handle with because of the engagement, determination, fight, feisty personality etc. she brings on court. It's always difficult for an opponent to come an play a player who seems always positive, who never let's go, who is consistently all over you [...]

This is on for example what Ferrer does too -- anyways we'll see for Fed-cup/Stuttgart.

HowardH

Apr 15th, 2012, 12:29 PM

Sara just showed how tough she can be to play on clay, winning the Barcelona title by beating Dominika 2 and 2. So it's very understandable that a sub-par Julia stood no chance against her.

selesia

Apr 17th, 2012, 02:44 PM

Julia plays double with AL Grönefeld in Stuttgart next week. It seems that doubles with Petkovic are finite... Petko plays with Kerber = she wants to have a safe partner for the Olympics, because both have already Ol. promotion.

_inocencia_

Apr 18th, 2012, 07:40 AM

well I have a Question? (my german is very POOR, although i've learned it for five years:lol:) so i just have to write it in english.
i fear that they put mona or kerber in S ahead of jule., i don't have written in memory the exact stats, but it seems to me that kerber and mona are SLIGHTLY more promising than jule with their form lately.:sad:

I THINK that it would be really silly to put ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE(including petko, especially because she was injured and out for so long, lack of matches really can be an issue)--> ahead of jule in singles ON CLAY. She is the best clay court player (from all german team), she has confidance injection from winning Stuttgart, and she is so confortable on "dirt", I see a possible "upset" vs Sam, or at least a tight match.

maturedgirl

Apr 18th, 2012, 08:50 AM

It's safe to assume that Julia will play on saturday second match vs. Sam ;) ...if she's fit.

selesia

Apr 18th, 2012, 01:02 PM

Yesterday it was reported that Julia will play in a singles match on saturday and doubles on Sunday.

EDIT:
According to current newspapers Kerber will be No1 in the German team. So Julia plays against Stosur, Petkovic vs Australian No2.

HowardH

Apr 18th, 2012, 03:06 PM

So they are using Julia only on the first two days and Petkovic in the reverse singles?

In that case it seems that they have judged that Julia has a good chance of getting the upset against Stosur, but they trust Petkovic to be more solid in terms of getting an expected win against the weaker no. 2 player.

Fair enough I think.

selesia

Apr 18th, 2012, 03:27 PM

Fed Cup takes 2 days. The second day Julia plays in doubles, so Petko in singles. Also Rittner shared the responsibility for victory in this way. If every player wins at least one match, Germany go(es) further. Julia has a chance in singles or doubles.

HowardH

Apr 18th, 2012, 03:33 PM

Fed Cup takes 2 days. The second day Julia plays in doubles, so Petko in singles. Also Rittner shared the responsibility for victory in this way. If every player wins at least one match, Germany go(es) further. Julia has a chance in singles or doubles.

Oh I see. I forgot that it wasn't three days like Davis Cup. That makes sense, it's better to have someone fresh for the reverse singles if the doubles is on the same day. Are they using ALG to partner Julia? I like the idea of sharing the responsibility for victory. The German team has more options than many other teams, so it's best to let each player play a role if possible.

Rovegun

Apr 18th, 2012, 05:59 PM

Yesterday it was reported that Julia will play in a singles match on saturday and doubles on Sunday.

EDIT:
According to current newspapers Kerber will be No1 in the German team. So Julia plays against Stosur, Petkovic vs Australian No2.

it´s a wise decision made by Rittner imo.... Angie against no. 2, Julia against Sam on Saturday and Angie vs Sam and Petko vs no. 2 and Julia with ALG in doubles on Sunday.... I think it can work very well for Germany... our Czech captain has voted this way a few times as well... it´s always good to have some choices how and with to play...

@_inocencia_ you can stay calm because Mona can´t play she´s not the member of the squad officially... she´s just a sparring partner....

Vikapower

Apr 19th, 2012, 01:21 AM

Yesterday it was reported that Julia will play in a singles match on saturday and doubles on Sunday.

EDIT:
According to current newspapers Kerber will be No1 in the German team. So Julia plays against Stosur, Petkovic vs Australian No2.

That's good, Julia has to play Sammy -- Julia is really a bad match up for her so hopefully Julia will come at her relative best and do the job.

_inocencia_

Apr 19th, 2012, 07:53 AM

@_inocencia_ you can stay calm because Mona can´t play she´s not the member of the squad officially... she´s just a sparring partner....

I know it's maybe selfish, but i wanna watch julia play :woohoo::haha:

LinusVanPelt

Apr 20th, 2012, 11:12 AM

İ wonder; who would be left out, if sabine wasnt injured..

Dispeker

Apr 20th, 2012, 11:48 AM

İ wonder; who would be left out, if sabine wasnt injured..

Petko I would guess, given that she haven't had any match practise for a long time. But this is going to be interesting in the future. 5 players which are basically on the same level.

I don't know what is it.
Julia plays now 3 matches or we have petko/alg pos. angie/alg in doubles ... or Petkovic against Stosur...

SidTheKid

Apr 20th, 2012, 02:35 PM

Julia vs. Jarka will be interesting :D

Vikapower

Apr 20th, 2012, 03:11 PM

Well I have no idea if Jarka Gajdosova would be a cool match -- I'd be more certain against Stosur anyways hopefully she wins the match and hope for not too much pressure especially what if happens in the first match is negative.

SidTheKid

Apr 20th, 2012, 03:12 PM

Jarka is mess lately so I expect nice fast match from Jules :)

LinusVanPelt

Apr 20th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Petko I would guess, given that she haven't had any match practise for a long time. But this is going to be interesting in the future. 5 players which are basically on the same level.

im admitting this sadly but, julia began to loose this competition. for now, kerber>sabine>?julia>andrea(due to injury)?>mona, but; when andrea turns with full condition and mona gains more experience and if julia continues to play her weak game, im sorry but she cannot compete with others. :tape: im not sayin that jules is bad, she is not, but germans are really good, so good that maybe,as one of the most talented players of wta, julia will have to compete with others in order to take place in olympics. Btw, I love germans and germany but im so jealous of them and Spain. Do you have to be succesful in every area of sport? :fiery: Anyways, all my concerns are arise from olympics. I REALLY want to see and support her.

selesia

Apr 20th, 2012, 05:00 PM

I also wondered in the past how a man must feel, when friends from childhood who were always worse, suddenly are ahead of you in the competition. Much depends on the character of the man, how you can handle it ...

Btw, I love germans and germany but im so jealous of them and Spain. Do you have to be succesful in every area of sport? :fiery:

Don't complain, You have better food :p

selesia

Apr 21st, 2012, 01:31 AM

it'll be broadcasted online on http://www.bild.de Probably available to all. A link should appear at midday.

About 12.00h German time = Angie vs Sam. After this plays Julia.

LinusVanPelt

Apr 21st, 2012, 11:01 AM

Where is Julia? She is not in audience anymore.

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 11:10 AM

Where is Julia? She is not in audience anymore.

She`s warming up for her match.

Vikapower

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:07 PM

:lol: What in the [...] ? How did Julia lost to Jarka Gajdosova ?

What happened in the Kerber match ? :scratch: I have my impression the German captain kind of distributed her cards pretty wrong.

crazillo

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:10 PM

Goerges is just way too inconsistent to be ranked where she is now. Will always have a couple really good weeks a year and that's it. :sad:

Skoo

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:15 PM

Jarka had the lowest number of UEs of all players :oh:

Vikapower

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:18 PM

Jarka had the lowest number of UEs of all players :oh:

That's what happened ? Julia made tons of unforced ?

Julia has to play Stosur I'm not seeing the match nowhere -- Damn, I haven't seen a decent match from Julia nowhere to be able to judge her current level. :sad:

Skoo

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:19 PM

That's what happened ? Julia made tons of unforced ?

Julia has to play Stosur I'm not seeing the match nowhere -- Damn, I haven't seen a decent match from Julia nowhere to be able to judge her current level. :sad:

How was Julia's unforced ? If they were generally in neutral rallies etc. then we really have a problem -- if it's from attacking positions etc. then it's only just a tweaking issue and we can still hope she finds the range for the up-coming weeks.

CillyUltra

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:35 PM

Julia couldn't handle the Fed Cup must-win pressure, as Sabine did in February, that's it. Sad to say, but without an in-form Andrea the German team is only worth half as much.

Rovegun

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:36 PM

what to say... I am very disappointed who would have expected such a result after Saturday? I believed it could have been 1-1 or 2-0 to Germany but not Germany losing after the first day... I watched Julia with one eye because I was switching programmes through Safarova/Kvitova, Berdych and Angie/Julia... according to the result it looked as if it was a very tight match between Jule and Jarka and I am very surprised Jarka won but again it is Fed Cup everything can happen because it is a different competition... it´s going to be pretty tough for German girls tomorrow not sure if I can see them win the tie... I also like the Aussie girls but still I would rather like to see German girls competing in the World Group I.... it will be such a shame to fall down with such a strong team maybe the strongest in the world regarding of the rankings.... anyway good luck Mädels!

Skoo

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:38 PM

:lol: Ah well, how many winners from them to put some perspective ?

How was Julia's unforced ? If they were generally in neutral rallies etc. then we really have a problem -- if it's from attacking positions etc. then it's only just a tweaking issue and we can still hope she finds the range for the up-coming weeks.

Julia 16, Jarka 19, Angie 21, Sam 34.

IDK, I wasn't able to watch it all or very careful. I saw some wild errors though. And weak services and some other weak shots. She wasn't very lively. Next weeks don't look very promising right now, but, of course, she is not predictable :)

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 02:44 PM

Attitude wise Julia with a similar performance as against Errani at Barcelona.
Bad movement and body language and couldn`t find her game again.
I don`t know whether she is not yet fit, off form or just couldn`t handle the pressure. Most likely it was a mixture of all that.
Julia also was complaining stupidly about a lot of things like slippery court, linesmen decisions,... as we know her when it`s not working. Not very likeable.
Having the clay season ahead this does not look very promising.
To be honest, Gajdisova really played well the whole match long but for sure Julia did help her a lot with her very poor performance.
And it ended again with some tears after the match.:sad:

_inocencia_

Apr 21st, 2012, 03:01 PM

Julia's performance was disaster. but jarka played very good, almoust excelent, i must admit

_inocencia_

Apr 21st, 2012, 03:04 PM

Attitude wise Julia with a similar performance as against Errani at Barcelona.
Bad movement and body language and couldn`t find her game again.
I don`t know whether she is not yet fit, off form or just couldn`t handle the pressure. Most likely it was a mixture of all that.
Julia also was complaining stupidly about a lot of things like slippery court, linesmen decisions,... as we know her when it`s not working. Not very likeable.
Having the clay season ahead this does not look very promising.
To be honest, Gajdisova really played well the whole match long but for sure Julia did help her a lot with her very poor performance.
And it ended again with some tears after the match.:sad:

julia cried? oh :sad:
i turned off the stream after match. well i think that it's not the end of the world. she'll play good again, if not next, than the week after. In my opinion : she JUST could NOT HANDLE PRESSURE

Vikapower

Apr 21st, 2012, 03:26 PM

Julia couldn't handle the Fed Cup must-win pressure, as Sabine did in February, that's it. Sad to say, but without an in-form Andrea the German team is only worth half as much.

Andrea has always been the most mentally strong of all the Germans, that will never change. Andrea probably doesn't have natural gifted talent but in the head she's really a motor.

Teams like Fed Cup etc. needs player like her, back then in 2006 etc. we had Amélie Mauresmo who thankfully had both the talent and the head to bring the team up but it seems like if Germany wants a leader the team needs to be built around her --

I'm still eager to see what Julia would/should do against Samantha who's theoretically a good match up for her but reading around how she under-performed against Jarka well can only dream -- we'll see, still one match to be played right ?

Dispeker

Apr 21st, 2012, 03:31 PM

When you compare the performance of today with the matches she played at Stuttgart/Madrid last year, you could get the impression that it's not the same player there on court. Not only her BH ROS was bad but also her FH ROS - in fact, her FH in general was close to non-existent. It was also striking how well Jarka handled Julia's 2nd serve, she hit so many ROS winners. After Muguruza it's the 2nd player who did that and that's a bit worrying to see imo. I mean, her kickserve is supposed to be one of her weapons, not a weakness in her game.

LinusVanPelt

Apr 21st, 2012, 03:50 PM

The thing which horrifies me is; she did not played with many UE's, she just played.. bad . Even her FH were not good enough. İ just cant believe how German team plays this bad? Germany has 4 top 20 players now, i know sabine and andrea are not fully there. Logically, germany has to be one of the bests in Fed cup after Russia, İtalia, serbia.. But they are far away from that. Lets hope Julia's performance will increase tomorrow, im pretty sure that Angie will win. i must say, as my friend says, without andrea the team is just "Angie and Julia".

HowardH

Apr 21st, 2012, 04:33 PM

Didn't see it, but I do know Jarka is a dangerous foe. Still, I expected Julia to win. Hope she brings some better tennis against Sam.

So the consensus seems to be that Julia played poorly. How did Angi play? Sam is a pretty tough opponent so I can't tell whether Angi played well and was just outplayed or if she was nervous.

On paper Germany is very very strong, with so many top 20 players. But fed cup has a way of throwing rankings out the window. Sam was always going to be fairly tough, she's top 5 after all despite her form, so Germany really needed to win against Jarka. Now it seems unlikely that Germany can win.

Dispeker

Apr 21st, 2012, 04:37 PM

Didn't see it, but I do know Jarka is a dangerous foe. Still, I expected Julia to win. Hope she brings some better tennis against Sam.

If she is playing at all..

Vikapower

Apr 21st, 2012, 04:38 PM

When you compare the performance of today with the matches she played at Stuttgart/Madrid last year, you could get the impression that it's not the same player there on court. Not only her BH ROS was bad but also her FH ROS - in fact, her FH in general was close to non-existent. It was also striking how well Jarka handled Julia's 2nd serve, she hit so many ROS winners. After Muguruza it's the 2nd player who did that and that's a bit worrying to see imo. I mean, her kickserve is supposed to be one of her weapons, not a weakness in her game.

Yes but if she's not confident it doesn't really have the same impact probably is what's happening.

I'm not really all that surprised about the rest you mentioned -- when Julia is bad her backhand is generally quite a mess --

Julia is more offensive generally with her forehand so she can bleed lots of unforced shots but they're generally positive since she only needs to find the margin contrary to her backhand where she often just misses from neutral etc. situations -- anyways we'll see how she turns her clay form around which is pretty much turning into some kind of a nightmare considering it's her best surface and how well she can play on it.

HowardH

Apr 21st, 2012, 04:44 PM

If she is playing at all..

Oh, true. Well I hope she gets to play another live rubber.

Edit: Oh I just noticed that people say she cried again. Poor thing :sad: :hug:.

LinusVanPelt

Apr 21st, 2012, 05:12 PM

Oh, true. Well I hope she gets to play another live rubber.

Edit: Oh I just noticed that people say she cried again. Poor thing :sad: :hug:.
i did not see it, and i watched until end of the match :shrug:

HowardH

Apr 21st, 2012, 05:16 PM

i did not see it, and i watched until end of the match :shrug:

Apparently it was after the match was over. Probably a delayed reaction.

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 05:25 PM

Apparently it was after the match was over. Probably a delayed reaction.

Julia left the arena with tears in her eyes immediately after the match. It was clearly to see.
The German commentator on Eins plus said it, too. There was no after match interview, I guess Julia was not in the mood to talk about this loss

Rovegun

Apr 21st, 2012, 05:59 PM

Julia left the arena with tears in her eyes immediately after the match. It was clearly to see.
The German commentator on Eins plus said it, too. There was no after match interview, I guess Julia was not in the mood to talk about this loss

agree... everyone who watched the match on TV could see she had tears in her eyes... everyone can understand she didn´t want to do an interview after the match... hope Julia can do something with herself and beat Sam tomorrow...

Nastya might be the only player she can beat now, if she continues to play like that, so you can say it's a good draw.

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 08:04 PM

Nastya might be the only player she can beat now, if she continues to play like that, so you can say it's a good draw.

Agree, definitely one of the best first round draws she could get here.

Skoo

Apr 21st, 2012, 08:15 PM

Agree, definitely one of the best first round draws she could get here.

Perhaps the most suitable quarter as well :)

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 08:28 PM

Perhaps the most suitable quarter as well :)

Yes, if she was in the form of the last year.
I once thought, like you, she would have Sam`s number, but now I`m not sure anymore. :lol:

Skoo

Apr 21st, 2012, 08:40 PM

Yes, if she was in the form of the last year.
I once thought, like you, she would have Sam`s number, but now I`m not sure anymore. :lol:

You can't be sure of anything with her (and many other players). If she plays well, she can beat Sam, of course (IDK about Pennetta though):) But this is the best quarter in comparison to the others.

Vikapower

Apr 21st, 2012, 08:45 PM

Mmm, just saw the draw -- she has already beaten Sammy in Stuttgart. Julia can win 2 matches here at most -- With her dire/atrocious record against Russian players on WTA main draws (6-14) I doubt she'll get further past Maria Sharapova.

I am not concerned with Nastya, well i do a little, im more concerned with further matches. I still have hope that she will reach the QF's at RG, but for now.. I just dont know. She is too inconsistent. I cannot make comments or predictions about her anymore. Every match with julia is a "possibility sea".

Sad to say, but without an in-form Andrea the German team is only worth half as much.

True. And now we`ll lose :sobbing:

joy division

Apr 21st, 2012, 09:37 PM

According to DTB facebook MK 27 told on the Fed Cup thread that she was still not feeling healthy in her match today.
Not to paint it black, but it seems to be clear that something`s wrong with her.
Her attitude and behavior on court wasn`t good at all today.

I guess she is a little bit swamped and exhausted overall. Mentally and physically.
Julia probably needs a little break to recover entirely.
Otherwise she has to defend so many points the next few weeks...
No easy situation for her, hope she can find a way out of this and a sense of achievement very soon.

Michael!

Apr 21st, 2012, 10:32 PM

good draw for Stuttgart at least, I hope she can rest well and then she should be able to beat Pavly somehow, hopefully!
We can´t expect a win over Stosur obviously....but we´ll see

(Görges had to take antibiotics for an infection, but there was the green light for her game.
After the match, she said: "My body is currently not so good."
"Physically I was not able to raise my game."
Petkovic launched immediately after Görges' defeat a training session... )

Press reports that Julia had angina.

The question is, why she was playing when she is still weak.

crazillo

Apr 22nd, 2012, 08:02 AM

Because she wants to find excuses...

LinusVanPelt

Apr 22nd, 2012, 08:26 AM

Agree. She always get sick suddenly After her defeats.

joy division

Apr 22nd, 2012, 08:47 AM

from the article in the Bild Zeitung:

(Görges had to take antibiotics for an infection, but there was the green light for her game.
After the match, she said: "My body is currently not so good."
"Physically I was not able to raise my game."
Petkovic launched immediately after Görges' defeat a training session... )
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Press reports that Julia had angina.

The question is, why she was playing when she is still weak.

Yes, that`s very strange. Some other questions and attempts to get a clue -
How couldn`t Julia by herself and also not Rittner notice it during the practice sessions scratch: This is not very likeable.

Rittner was pretty stroppy and upset about Julia`s performance in the after match interview.
From all I`ve heard she asked Julia during the week to be fit and trusted in Julia`s judgement here as the main aspect to nominate her.
So I guess Julia desperately wanted to play, stand her ground and might have faked to be healthy or did fool herself to be so. Both props would give a poor light on her.
When it`s true she did her team a disservice with her well meant but blind ambition. Rittner`s anger is understandable.

Another possibility is that she is not ill, but just can`t stand the pressure to play for Germany in the Fed Cup. It`s something very special for the girls playing for the home country, looking at the interview thread.
There is a point, no doubt.
But she already performed similarly bad last week at Barcelona. Julia mentioned the antibiotics and the infection.
I think the fact that she plays for Germany has just an additional effect.
If it was the one and only reason for her bad performance yesterday it would bother me seriously about her frame of mind.

Because she wants to find excuses...

Idk, that sounds too simple to me and is definitely not all about Julia.
I guess she herself has no clue for her performance and is looking for reasons but not excuses.

CillyUltra

Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:18 AM

Fed Cup @FedCup
Germany brings in @AndreaPetkovic to take on #SamStosur next up
in #GERvAUS. #Petko replaces Julia Georges. Aussies lead 2-0

LinusVanPelt

Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:45 AM

Andrea? really? Somene who hadnt play for so long and someone just got rid of a big injury? Something is wrong here.

selesia

Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:07 AM

Another possibility is that she is not ill, but just can`t stand the pressure to play for Germany in the Fed Cup. It`s something very special for the girls playing for the home country, looking at the interview thread.

I don't think so. Certainly the pressure is, no doubt, but in February she was already in such a situation. Nobody notices it, but after Lisicki's defeat against Benesova, she had to win necessarily also (against Kvitova). And she was good with the pressure, played with a large desire of victory for the team. Yesterday she was playing just like in Barcelona, as Dispeker wrote like no Julia. No movement, no power in the serve and forehand.

How couldn`t Julia by herself and also not Rittner notice it during the practice sessions scratch: This is not very likeable.

This is what I don't understand. We know that she trained with the team from Wednesday, maybe training was too light (??) But, that Rittner is trying to kick all the blame on Julia is simply :tape: If you have good players in the team, usually they all want to play, coach has to decide whom to send to the game. Rittner is not there only to sit on her ass... In the best case for Rittner, the fault is 50% - 50%.

joy division

Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:57 AM

I don't think so. Certainly the pressure is, no doubt, but in February she was already in such a situation. Nobody notices it, but after Lisicki's defeat against Benesova, she had to win necessarily also (against Kvitova). And she was good with the pressure, played with a large desire of victory for the team. Yesterday she was playing just like in Barcelona, as Dispeker wrote like no Julia. No movement, no power in the serve and forehand.

I wrote -

Another possibility is that she is not ill, but just can`t stand the pressure to play for Germany in the Fed Cup. It`s something very special for the girls playing for the home country, looking at the interview thread.
There is a point, no doubt.
But she already performed similarly bad last week at Barcelona. Julia mentioned the antibiotics and the infection.
I think the fact that she plays for Germany has just an additional effect.
If it was the one and only reason for her bad performance yesterday it would bother me seriously about her frame of mind.

So I guess we have a similar point of view here.;)

This is what I don't understand. We know that she trained with the team from Wednesday, maybe training was too light (??) But, that Rittner is trying to kick all the blame on Julia is simply :tape: If you have good players in the team, usually they all want to play, coach has to decide whom to send to the game. Rittner is not there only to sit on her ass... In the best case for Rittner, the fault is 50% - 50%.

I wrote -

Rittner was pretty stroppy and upset about Julia`s performance in the after match interview.
From all I`ve heard she asked Julia during the week to be fit and trusted in Julia`s judgement here as the main aspect to nominate her.
So I guess Julia desperately wanted to play, stand her ground and might have faked to be healthy or did fool herself to be so. Both props would give a poor light on her.
When it`s true she did her team a disservice with her well meant but blind ambition. Rittner`s anger is understandable.

In addition there is to say that Rittner as responsible coach has to "know" her athletes and see whether Julia is fit or not. That`s her part and she has to decide, also when it might be against the wish of a player. She seemingly failed in this point.

So again we are not far away of each other. Both have added something that the things went wrong. ;)

Dispeker

Apr 22nd, 2012, 02:13 PM

Much better performance today. Petko and Jule = simply the best doubles team :)

joy division

Apr 22nd, 2012, 03:09 PM

They had a lot of fun together, how could it be different ?
Was very nice to watch.
There will be a lot of pics of it.:)

Vikapower

Apr 22nd, 2012, 03:23 PM

I don't think so. Certainly the pressure is, no doubt, but in February she was already in such a situation. Nobody notices it, but after Lisicki's defeat against Benesova, she had to win necessarily also (against Kvitova). And she was good with the pressure, played with a large desire of victory for the team. Yesterday she was playing just like in Barcelona, as Dispeker wrote like no Julia. No movement, no power in the serve and forehand.

This is what I don't understand. We know that she trained with the team from Wednesday, maybe training was too light (??) But, that Rittner is trying to kick all the blame on Julia is simply :tape: If you have good players in the team, usually they all want to play, coach has to decide whom to send to the game. Rittner is not there only to sit on her ass... In the best case for Rittner, the fault is 50% - 50%.

:lol: She really makes me laugh and yes I agree with what you said --

Vikapower

Apr 22nd, 2012, 03:30 PM

Yes, that`s very strange. Some other questions and attempts to get a clue -
How couldn`t Julia by herself and also not Rittner notice it during the practice sessions scratch: This is not very likeable.

Rittner was pretty stroppy and upset about Julia`s performance in the after match interview.
From all I`ve heard she asked Julia during the week to be fit and trusted in Julia`s judgement here as the main aspect to nominate her.
So I guess Julia desperately wanted to play, stand her ground and might have faked to be healthy or did fool herself to be so. Both props would give a poor light on her.
When it`s true she did her team a disservice with her well meant but blind ambition. Rittner`s anger is understandable.

Another possibility is that she is not ill, but just can`t stand the pressure to play for Germany in the Fed Cup. It`s something very special for the girls playing for the home country, looking at the interview thread.
There is a point, no doubt.
But she already performed similarly bad last week at Barcelona. Julia mentioned the antibiotics and the infection.
I think the fact that she plays for Germany has just an additional effect.
If it was the one and only reason for her bad performance yesterday it would bother me seriously about her frame of mind.

I don't really believe in the "pressure theory", Julia always seems to play well at least in Stuttgart -- I'm not certain about playing in front the German public but it didn't/doesn't seem to bother her at least in her match for example against Petra earlier this year --

Julia is not a timid player or somebody who kinds of hides -- she always comes to play or try to play her game regardless of the situation or even her personal situation (health etc.) -- so this is a good barometer to me.

The relegation/non-relegation etc. ok might have played a role but I really think Julia just wasn't 100%-fit to play -- it's then certainly the role of "so called" coach to perceive these and align the correct player/s for the up-coming matches.

Probably Rittner is just trying to compensate her errors by blaming Julia unfortunately, she's the one responsible of Julia, she's the one deciding if she has or not to play a Fed Cup match -- so hard to blame somebody else in that type of configuration.

As you said she might have faked/attenuated her condition, very possible which induced the team's Captain into error but again by safety Rittner knew all this and made HER error of aligning Julia, then probably she needs to learn what is a mirror. ;)

_inocencia_

Apr 22nd, 2012, 03:52 PM

it's really SUCH A SHAME that steffi graf is not intersted in leading german fed cup team. she wouldn't be that stupid :o

^^^
Andrea said in an interview with Bild.de that it happened on her way in the loo in the night.:facepalm:
If it had been 2-2 at this stage the docs would have given ALG a shot that she could have played the decisive double.

SidTheKid

Apr 22nd, 2012, 06:17 PM

Was unable to watch Fed Cup too sad she lost to Jarka especially after what I said :facepalm:

selesia

Apr 22nd, 2012, 06:27 PM

Andrea said in an interview with Bild.de that it happened on her way in the loo in the night.:facepalm:
If it had been 2-2 at this stage the docs would have given ALG a shot that she could have played the decisive double.

If she will play Stuttgart with injections, Julia necessarily has to buy her potty http://www.delle101.de/forum/upload/smilies/ti_1250947339_950a.gif

Rovegun

Apr 22nd, 2012, 07:58 PM

we can just guess what was the main problem of Julia´s loss... it actually can be all packed in one... maybe Julia didn´t feel completely fit and obviously the pressure as no. 1 was there as well + Jarka´s better display than we waited that everything caused Julia´s loss... yeah, Julia was under the pressure against Petra but still she wasn´t the one who was expected to make a point even though Sabine lost to Iveta she had nothing to lose...

I mean it is a pity such a strong team will play the World Group II once again and everything can be due to the head or mind whatever you want.... it can just happen the head will/is be the biggest problem of the German team not just only health.... there can just be players who loves it being in the Fed Cup team, the atmosphere around and so on but the pressure can be too enough for them.... it was the main reason why Iveta Benesova finished her Fed Cup career a few years ago but came back last year... I read yesterday Maria Kirilenko has also a huge problem how to handle the pressure when playing for Russia.... for some players it is just much easier to play for themselves than for their country..

hankmoody

Apr 22nd, 2012, 08:13 PM

I`ve been in Stuttgart and watched her match yesterday. And since I was sitting in the first row I was able to see her body language and facial expressions very well throughout the match. And to be honest, after 2 or so games in the first set I kinda knew how this would end. There have only been 2 or 3 moments in that whole match when I saw that fighting spirit in her face. Especially compared to Angie`s match before.
But I just can`t believe that it was the pressure. She really looked very confident and motivated in the beginning, but after the first few errors you could suddently see the desperation in her eyes.:shrug:

joy division

Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:05 PM

I`ve been in Stuttgart and watched her match yesterday. And since I was sitting in the first row I was able to see her body language and facial expressions very well throughout the match. And to be honest, after 2 or so games in the first set I kinda knew how this would end. There have only been 2 or 3 moments in that whole match when I saw that fighting spirit in her face. Especially compared to Angie`s match before.
But I just can`t believe that it was the pressure. She really looked very confident and motivated in the beginning, but after the first few errors you could suddently see the desperation in her eyes.:shrug:

I was thinking of you the last days because you said you will go. Was not so much fun, I guess.

Well, we had no different impression on TV of Julia, and most of us can`t see the pressure context as you can read on the clay thread.
Probably her mysterious "private problems" have also to do with her mood on the court.:shrug:

selesia

Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:27 PM

obviously the pressure as no. 1 was there as well + Jarka´s better display than we waited that everything caused Julia´s loss... yeah, Julia was under the pressure against Petra but still she wasn´t the one who was expected to make a point even though Sabine lost to Iveta she had nothing to lose...

She was not number 1, she came for petko and hence the order of matches (regulations). Day 1:
#1 Stosur vs. #2 Kerber
#2 Gajdosova vs. #1 Petkovic (replaced by #3 Görges)

Now, was she the one to make a point? Kerber wasn't a player, who was expected to make points ?? Not true.

Rovegun

Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:35 PM

She was not number 1, she came for petko and hence the order of matches (regulations). Day 1:
#1 Stosur vs. #2 Kerber
#2 Gajdosova vs. #1 Petkovic (replaced by #3 Görges)

Now, was she the one to make a point? Kerber wasn't a player, who was expected to make points ?? Not true.

Petko wasn´t virtually considered to be no. 1 that´s what I mean or am talking about... no one could consider Petko as no. 1 when she hasn´t played for 3 months before... and Angie? everyone here was talking about she´s nothing on clay so the points were expected from Julia who´s great on clay but she disappointed many people and herself as well but that´s tennis and it happens...

selesia

Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:57 PM

Petko wasn´t virtually considered to be no. 1 that´s what I mean or am talking about... no one could consider Petko as no. 1 when she hasn´t played for 3 months before... and Angie? everyone here was talking about she´s nothing on clay so the points were expected from Julia who´s great on clay but she disappointed many people and herself as well but that´s tennis and it happens...

Also Julia wasn't considered to be no.1 like you wrote in your previous post. Both girls had to win with Gajdosowa, not only Julia. And there is no difference in comparison to the match against Czechs. Just Rittner, from the beginning of the week, put Kerber for granted. In addition, players are not the problem in GER Team. There are many factors, that make up our continuous defeats in the World group. You simplified the matter terribly.

In the context of Stuttgart, it would be better for us all, if Julia had a problem with the pressure in FC.... But considering her game in Barcelona and FC, she is physically weak. And now we need a
miracle so she could use the good draw
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EDIT:

This FedCup weekend has put me in a totally hopeless mood and I lost all hopes for Stuttgart. Now I need a mental coach or should simply retire :crying2:

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#wta Stuttgart: All the single main draw players are here. Let's face the true, with this draw photographers here are lucky
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#wta Stuttgart: nice opening ceremony, all singles main draw players walking out to the court with young fans in tow.
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Huge ovation for Andrea Petkovic. So nice to see her smile again
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Bartoli waking on court, in one hand the kid in the other her fashion bag.
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Azarenka with her ​​personal touch of elegance: a gray t-shirt with a skull in glitter
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Goerges last to go on court, she looks a bit tense. Almost not smile.

:)
Champion is presented on the end. Nice.

joy division

Apr 24th, 2012, 05:39 AM

^^^
Well, last but not least.

I`m clueless as never before about her shape.
Not to think about a loss in the first round.:unsure:

Won't be able to see it :( Hopefully she can win this. First round exit would be cruel. Hm, I just watched the video Laechler posted - she's blowing her nose on court :facepalm: Not a good sign..

joy division

Apr 24th, 2012, 07:46 AM

Won't be able to see it :( Hopefully she can win this. First round exit would be cruel. Hm, I just watched the video Laechler posted - she's blowing her nose on court :facepalm: Not a good sign..

Probably you won`t miss too much...
Julia blows her nose since half of a year.:shrug: Nothing new here.
And she seems to be pretty bad-tempered in this session.
The preconditions does not look very promising.
My money is on the "Stuttgart virus", but we`ll see.
Hope dies last. .

Rovegun

Apr 24th, 2012, 10:00 AM

can´t wait today´s match... Julia needs to gain some points back but we don´t know what her form is but hopefully her good memoriew will come back tonight and she´ll beat Nastya otherwise it would be a disaster...

Vikapower

Apr 24th, 2012, 07:05 PM

:lol: Well typical Julia match -- could write an essay but anyways she's really feeling the pressure, guess, that's the thing to remember or I remembered from her post-match ITW. In the pre-match one she confessed already that fact well looks like it really illustrated in her game in the first set --

Not easy to come as the defending champion in now what is a 'Premier 700' event with a Mandatory like field.

Not really much to say than Thank you to Julia's serve -- because weren't it for that this match could have been even much more difficult than expected. :lol:

Now I hope she brush up some pressure and elevate her level against Sammy -- she really has a shot against the Australian if she comes her best.

CillyUltra

Apr 24th, 2012, 07:13 PM

Well, didn't expect something else after her Fed Cup debacle. Just happy that she put up a good fight and didn't disgraced herself as defending champion on the magnificent stage of Germany's only tournament.

Good fight from Julia here at least!
But is really painful to watch her often, just no consistency and just brainless in too many situations.
But playing in Stuttgart helps her at least as she stays motivated here even if her game doesn´t work well, but u can easily imagine how she could lose such matches at some other places.
Her serve was working quite well again, was good to see, especially 1st serve but she could mix and has to mix her serve more often as well, she has the possibilities but u would have to tell her over and over again, I fear.

Same from the baseline, she has to vary her game more, especially on clay, which is her best surface when she is "on", but her dropshots didn´t really work lately , but some moonballs on her bh here and there wouldn´t be too bad as well, that works on clay quite well for her.
But as I said, 2nd and 3rd set here were OK, she has to improve her serve and some of her errors were just pathetic as totally cheap but it seems so hard for her to stay concentrated over a whole match..:lol:

I don´t expect her to win against Stosur, she still doesn´t seem 100% fit and just isn´t in great shape but we´ll see, Stosur´s game suits her obviously and there is always a slim chance as long as Julia´s serve works but one win here at least, that is good and her ranking will still be OK after Madrid as well, to see the positive! :)

Dispeker

Apr 24th, 2012, 09:18 PM

Thank god she won. I'm actually quite optimistic about her next match against Sam. Of course, she's a top player and beat Kerber and Petko in straight sets lately but still I wasn't really impressed by her performance. And Julia knows how to beat her ;)

CillyUltra

Apr 24th, 2012, 09:45 PM

http://s19.postimage.org/70orx9ta7/112304755_normal.jpg Julia Goerges @juliagoerges
Won my match against nastia today.tough battle but so happy
beeing through to the second round!its just amazing playing at
home+specially here as the crowd is great.love it!cant describe it!next singles against
sam.looking forward to it!but first doubles tmw with @Annagroenefeld

We play at 12 on center against Vesnina/Peng.Lets go for it
anna...massage now and off to bed.thx for the great support
everybody!gn8

selesia

Apr 24th, 2012, 09:48 PM

serve is back, forehand is back, fight spirit is back :aparty: :crazy:

At all Julia is back! After her Barca & FedCup performance this was a very good showing. Especially with so much stress. I wonder who was more trembling she or me :D

Now the stress should fall, there was no disgrace or fiasco. I don't know from where the bad comments - Pavlu was playing really well in 1st and 2nd set. She is reborn under new coach, needs to improve the condition (lose weight).

Not easy to come as the defending champion in now what is a 'Premier 700' event with a Mandatory like field.

Last year also was so - premier 700 :)
http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2011/717.pdf

Only now Stuttgart does pay great appearance fees and therefore is such a super cast. They make life difficult for Julia :devil: Reportedly Sharapova plays here because of money and she is not yet well prepared for the clay season. So it's good draw for Julia... but next SAMANTA !

The announcement already appeared on the WTA site:

http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/w5i6j89e/stutt2.gif

_inocencia_

Apr 25th, 2012, 06:28 AM

well i have to admit, i'm very positiv about match vs stosur. julia was so ON ystrdy, her footwork was like=she wanted every single point so bad!! service is on, fh is on(i managed to watch 3rd set). now sam, julia let's do this !! :) go! :)

CillyUltra

Apr 25th, 2012, 07:14 AM

STUTTGART, Germany - Sam Stosur and Julia Goerges won first round matches at the Porsche Tennis Grand Prix on Tuesday, setting up a second round rematch of their blockbuster semifinal clash from a year ago. (...)

Goerges won through later in the day, dropping a tight 54-minute first set but then getting early breaks in both the second and third sets to edge Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova in front of her adoring German home crowd, 57 63 64.

"It's not normal I come here as defending champion," Goerges said. "It was a new situation and I was a little bit nervous and tight at the beginning, but I am happy I managed all of it at the end and was able to fight through today.

"Of course there will be expectations and pressure on you, but every sport's the same, and if you're able to manage it well you can keep going higher."

Goerges might also benefit from being one of four Germans who have really gone higher over the last year, alongside Petkovic, Kerber and Sabine Lisicki. "We're all pretty good friends," Goerges commented. "We hang around a lot, drink coffee together and talk, not just about tennis. I think the fans are appreciating us and getting more interested in tennis, which is great."

Goerges has beaten Stosur in both of their previous meetings, most notably a 64 36 75 semifinal victory right here last year in which she really lifted her game at the end, winning eight of the last nine points of the match.

"Sam is a Grand Slam champion and No.5 in the world, so obviously she's a great player," Goerges said. "She's a great person too - I have to say she's a nice girl and I get along well with her. We've played some doubles and we're going to play more. I like watching her game too - she's so athletic.

"We had a tough match here last year. I hope we can make a good rematch."

The preconditions for the match against Pavly were not the best. Her own statements confirm that.
Julia played very nervous, overhasty and often moved bad in the first 2 sets but could somehow stabilize her service game in the third set against a dangerous but also very inconsistent and battered opponent.
The composure and the good attitude in the third set won her the match. All credits for that.

The immediate preconditions play a big role on the performance capability of a player, that`s clear.
Above that when I think about the insights she mentioned in some interviews about the importance of being calm and focused on court and so on, she overall still seems to be far away from really improving in this concerns.
You still never can be sure with her what will happen next.

Samantha is a good match-up for her. Mainly the power and pace of Julia`s game does not taste her. She has similarly problems with Sharapova`s game and that can intimidate her pretty much.
In the semi finals last year it was a high quality and very close match but Julia definitely deserved the win in the end. But the preconditions were very different then.
Julia will have to offer her best for the most parts of the match and I really doubt that she is capable to do so right now.
Samantha now knows about Julia`s strength and is in a very good shape, probably even better than last year.
Not to be negative, I fear Julia is not and I doubt that it will change over night. But who knows, we`ll see.