It's sad but I think the best thing about Manning coming here would be the exit of some of the posters.

This is exactly why you and Elway deserve Manning....

I find it funny that Elway and the Broncos are going to suffer for many many long years because of the same kind of stubbornness that caused Elway to take so long to win a superbowl in the first place...

I think him demanding to go to another team is identical to this situation of stubbornly refusing to try to adapt to Tebow... or even consider it really.. its a smug arrogance and ignorance.. and it's going to cost him just the same IMO..

So you find it funny that what I posted is still true? He may think he's not done. And he may be right. But he's still 36 this month. The key part of my original post being "or". Of course why should I be surprised the intricacies of such a word would go well over your head?

*edit* Oh yeah, the context of your original thread was trading for Manning. So...I'm not really sure how you intend to spin that as you being brilliant.

Right The fact is i predicted this and NOW its happening just give me my props thats all im asking for big man

I trust Elway to do the right thing. He's a winner and will foster Championships. I'll cheer for the Broncos whether its Manning or Tebow but I think manning and a change at QB is really where Elway's heart is and it gives him sufficient cause to trade tebow and be done with the McDaniels era player that he's just never been comfortable with.

We're damned if we do damned if we don't. I would rather stick with Tebow because it shortens the cycle. We either get a good long term QB or we start the search for one all over again shortly. Manning delays the process by at least two years. Maybe three or even four. I don't see us winning a Super Bowl with Tebow in three years. The team has too many holes and needs to grow A LOT. But I don't see us winning one with Manning either. Manning could mask a lot of holes on offense but historically he's been a TERRIBLE playoff quarterback. Why should we expect that to change at age 36 (or 37 or 38 when we could realistically potentially contend) and four neck surgeries? To top it all off we'd likely have a draft pick in the high teens or low twenties thereby making our chances of getting a top QB prospect after he retires difficult at best. If Tebow fails this year we'll be in the running for Barkley or whoever else is the flavor of the month.

It's sad but I think the best thing about Manning coming here would be the exit of some of the posters.

The worst part would be becoming one of those cheap-ass rent-a-franchises like the Vikings or baseball's Florida Marlins that try to go on a rampage every few years with other teams' players in unsustainable fashion, leading to an empty shell of a team nobody really and truly cares about.

This team isn't built for a player like Manning.. that's the whole point.... it's like hiring the greatest chef in the world and giving him spam and ketchup to make your meal...

The funny part is that if not for Tebow and his ability to make this team successful even with all it's flaws someone like Manning wouldn't even be attracted.. I don't even think he is.. I think the Broncos want him but I doubt Manning is dumb enough to be fooled like everyone else.. I think manning knows what a freak Tebow is.. if he comes it's likely only if Tebow is willing to play alongside with him..

The worst part would be becoming one of those cheap-ass rent-a-franchises like the Vikings or baseball's Florida Marlins that try to go on a rampage every few years with other teams' players in unsustainable fashion, leading to an empty shell of a team nobody really and truly cares about.

Kids can't grow up to love a franchise like that.

You mean the same Marlins that won two titles? Yeah, that would suck. I hate winning.

The worst part would be becoming one of those cheap-ass rent-a-franchises like the Vikings or baseball's Florida Marlins that try to go on a rampage every few years with other teams' players in unsustainable fashion, leading to an empty shell of a team nobody really and truly cares about.

Kids can't grow up to love a franchise like that.

Not even close to what this would be....

we've got guys like Champ, Dawkins, DJ, Clady, Elvis, etc... that deserve to get the best shot to win a championship before their time runs out....

I understand both sides of the argument but Denver is nowhere near being a mercenary type team

The worst part would be becoming one of those cheap-ass rent-a-franchises like the Vikings or baseball's Florida Marlins that try to go on a rampage every few years with other teams' players in unsustainable fashion, leading to an empty shell of a team nobody really and truly cares about.

I'm all for Peyton.
Where can you get a player of the caliber of Peyton Manning at 35yrs old without giving anything up to get him.
It'll be stupid not trying to get him...

You're giving up salary that could get big name starters in areas of critical need. You're putting the franchise's future on the hope that 4 neck surgeries hold up. Betting the farm that a 36 yr old nfl'er can hold up. This isn't the same Peyton and until he proves otherwise it isn't worth the risk.

I find it funny that Elway and the Broncos are going to suffer for many many long years because of the same kind of stubbornness that caused Elway to take so long to win a superbowl in the first place...

I think him demanding to go to another team is identical to this situation of stubbornly refusing to try to adapt to Tebow... or even consider it really.. its a smug arrogance and ignorance.. and it's going to cost him just the same IMO..

Exactly what kind of stubbornness of Elway's caused us to lose out on so many Super Bowls? Never mind the fact that he brought 3 under talented teams to the big game anyways.

You've admitted you're not even a Bronco fan. Quit talking out of your ass on Bronco history because you clearly know absolutely nothing about it.