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So twisting the words of one GM in your favour equates to "100% legal"? Got it.

Edit: I'm not professing to know either way, btw, having not played for a long time, I have no idea what the current schools of thought on neon leather dye tubs are, but if it's a topic which is currently seen by many to be unresolved (enough to warrant a thread like this), then I wouldn't be so fast as to allow the arguably ambiguous words of one GM, to "confirm" things one way or another.

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(btw I meant twisted their meaning, not twisted them literally. His words are fairly ambiguous - it could mean what you say is true, or it could mean he has no idea what you're talking about, both are distinct possibilities).

Urban Legend has it that a particular 'not too bright' GM fixed a buggy leather tub and created the neons. How many mistakes did this GM make ? Was he/she led around by the nose by players purposely bugging their leather dye tubs for him/her to fix wrongly ?

While, I'm sure the GM meant well, until Jeremy or another Dev team member officially changes the status of Neon Leather Dye Tubs I wouldn't presume to quote Gms as they are often not on the same level as those EA employees mentioned above.

Also, for those of you who might say they probably wouldn't bother to inform us of legal status changes of items, Jeremy generally does take the time to do it, and has provided information about the bugged leather dye tubs in the past. So its highly likely that if a change was made, that she would make mention of it.

So, I'ld recommend until you read otherwise on a FOF or in a post by a EA official on uo.com or here that you still consider them as "not illegal"

As long as the color of the dyes was obtained normally, and not by exploit or other means
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Ummm sorry to bust your bubble buddy but the colors of the dyetub were created using an EXPLOIT or a 3RD PARTY PROGRAM, therefor GM was right, NOT LEGAL!!!

PS - Still looking to buy one, only two offers thus far at 275m which was sold for 300m, and another asking for 350m. Now I have met players who bought theirs for 60m and resold for the same only a few months ago. Someone please sell me your tub, and all who help me get this tub closer to 60 million will be greatly rewarded in rare items.

You guys STILL Want to buy them even though you KNOW they are illegal?

SO this item is YES 100% ILLEGAL it's blatantly obvious.

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Not exactly correct, they are considered by Jeremy, the Dev Team, and EA as <blockquote><hr>

Not Illegal

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So, they are not considered legal, but at this time you will not be penalized or punished for owning one. That does not mean the status will not and can not be changed in the future, nor that they will not be deleted in the future.

As long as the color of the dyes was obtained normally, and not by exploit or other means
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Ummm sorry to bust your bubble buddy but the colors of the dyetub were created using an EXPLOIT or a 3RD PARTY PROGRAM, therefor GM was right, NOT LEGAL!!!

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The dyetub was created in error by a gm, the dyes are 100% legit. Please understand what the gm says before attempting to thrwart me.

PS - Still looking to buy one, only two offers thus far at 275m which was sold for 300m, and another asking for 350m. Now I have met players who bought theirs for 60m and resold for the same only a few months ago. Someone please sell me your tub, and all who help me get this tub closer to 60 million will be greatly rewarded in rare items.

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I searched for my tub for many months on many shards on many forums. I too had heard that I could get one for as little as 60-80m. After many moons of searching and several attempts at scamming me, I finally found a legit seller and bought it for 275m. Whoever tells you they bought theres for 60m is either extremely lucky or lying to you and has no idea on the current market value or demand for the item.

The dyetub was created in error by a gm, the dyes are 100% legit. Please understand what the gm says before attempting to thrwart me.

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LoL, ok umm have you EVER seen these dyes any where else?? No. and leme get this straight, your implying that a GM accidentally created a neon leather dye tub eh? for what reason would a GM have to be "Creating" a neon tub in the first place? these tubs have been out since the opening of AOS, many many years now and they WERE created thru the use of an exploit with one of the vet reward tubs, i cant exactly remember how it was done nor could i explain it even if i could remember, But the point is, THEY WERE CREATED THROUGH AN EXPLOIT, NOT BY A GM, AND NO ONE HAS SAID THEY ARE LEGAL. the only thing you proved with ur post is that you can manipulate what a GM says into what you really wanted him to say, the GM NEVER stated that those tubs are legal, or will ever be legal for that matter.

what you SHOULD have done instead of asking if a tub like that is legal, was paged and asked if YOUR tub in YOUR pack was legal and see if the GM would delete it or not, and post a pic, and if the ppl here could see a pic of the tub in ur pack and a GM saying "Yes that Tub is Legal" then we will all agree with you and thank you. but all you have done here is falsely advertised the legitimacy of an exploited item and gotten many ppls hopes up.

and on a Side note, Free shards are NOT illegal by any means at all and you dont have to "Hack" anything to get your character etc on a free shard. not exactly for sure why you would think otherwise or why you would even post something like that.

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and on a Side note, Free shards are NOT illegal by any means at all and you dont have to "Hack" anything to get your character etc on a free shard. not exactly for sure why you would think otherwise or why you would even post something like that.

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According to the TOS/ROC you agreed to play UO on EA's servers, you agreed to play only on EA's server to load the game onto your PC. Free Servers are a huge problem, and is wrong to play them and then try to justify that it is not wrong to play on them, you need to reread the TOS.

Back to Topic, this player has a tub that is created by suspicious at the least options trying to justify that they are legal to own, even posting a pic of a vent saying free servers are used, shows real colors, seriously

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