nursedude:At least it's not Air Canada. Some of their flight attendants are getting a wee bit long in the tooth.

Same with American Airlines. They essentially stopped hiring flight attendants around 2000 or so, and were relying on attrition to thin the ranks. Supposedly they're going to hire 1500 new FAs next year, but we'll see if that happens.

I have a friend who's a flight attendant with AA, and even though she's been with them for thirteen years, she's near the bottom of the list, seniority-wise. Out of something like 13,000 attendants, she's junior to about 12,000 of them.

tl;dr version - there are a lot of aging sky-bunnies who absolutely refuse to quit.

I don't fly often, so perhaps I missed something, but I deal with a lot of flight crews where I work, and all of the female flight attendants all have the same exact look. Was being a flight attendant always the same as being a hooters waitress?

It's creepy as hell seeing 20 of the same person marching around in a row.

FALSE. Ryanair doesn't fly to london. They fly to stansted. Which is fine by me, since I live not too far from Stansted.

And, I just bought return tickets to Rome that cost me a total of 32 pounds, all in. Do I like being treated like a sheeple? Of course not. But I do like tickets to Rome for 32 pounds - quite liteerally just to have a dinner with a fried and back- and not having to drag my butt to heafrow-by-staines, so I manage.

I've flown RyanAir over 100 times in the last 5 years - maybe even 150. I've had a grand total of 3 delayed flights, one of which was due to the volcano. I have no love for the company, but I'd hate for them to be gone. I flew EasyJet to Nice last weekend. it was a better flying experience and in that case cost about the same, though the return flight was late (in that case due to the arrival of the president's falcon jet)

Ryanair flight attendants arent particularly attractive. it's just that if you have so many, as they do, some of them will be decent enough. It's quite funny to watch the evolution of them though - you can tell the new hires by the amount of effort they take to look good. And, unlike the USA, they don't pretend it's a "profession" that deserves "professional respect" or a pension plan. It's not a simple job, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

Bomb Head Mohammed:FALSE. Ryanair doesn't fly to london. They fly to stansted. Which is fine by me, since I live not too far from Stansted.

And, I just bought return tickets to Rome that cost me a total of 32 pounds, all in. Do I like being treated like a sheeple? Of course not. But I do like tickets to Rome for 32 pounds - quite liteerally just to have a dinner with a fried and back- and not having to drag my butt to heafrow-by-staines, so I manage.

I've flown RyanAir over 100 times in the last 5 years - maybe even 150. I've had a grand total of 3 delayed flights, one of which was due to the volcano. I have no love for the company, but I'd hate for them to be gone. I flew EasyJet to Nice last weekend. it was a better flying experience and in that case cost about the same, though the return flight was late (in that case due to the arrival of the president's falcon jet)

Ryanair flight attendants arent particularly attractive. it's just that if you have so many, as they do, some of them will be decent enough. It's quite funny to watch the evolution of them though - you can tell the new hires by the amount of effort they take to look good. And, unlike the USA, they don't pretend it's a "profession" that deserves "professional respect" or a pension plan. It's not a simple job, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

As somebody who has lived close to Ryanair's "Hamburg" airport in Luebeck. I, too, am OK with being treated like cattle when you can get a flight for cheaper than a train ride.

I took advantage of their super discount rates for their new route between Luebeck and Budapest. It was like 20 Euros. Round trip.

FALSE. Ryanair doesn't fly to london. They fly to stansted. Which is fine by me, since I live not too far from Stansted.

And, I just bought return tickets to Rome that cost me a total of 32 pounds, all in. Do I like being treated like a sheeple? Of course not. But I do like tickets to Rome for 32 pounds - quite liteerally just to have a dinner with a fried and back- and not having to drag my butt to heafrow-by-staines, so I manage.

I've flown RyanAir over 100 times in the last 5 years - maybe even 150. I've had a grand total of 3 delayed flights, one of which was due to the volcano. I have no love for the company, but I'd hate for them to be gone. I flew EasyJet to Nice last weekend. it was a better flying experience and in that case cost about the same, though the return flight was late (in that case due to the arrival of the president's falcon jet)

Ryanair flight attendants arent particularly attractive. it's just that if you have so many, as they do, some of them will be decent enough. It's quite funny to watch the evolution of them though - you can tell the new hires by the amount of effort they take to look good. And, unlike the USA, they don't pretend it's a "profession" that deserves "professional respect" or a pension plan. It's not a simple job, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

FALSE. Ryanair doesn't fly to london. They fly to stansted. Which is fine by me, since I live not too far from Stansted.

And, I just bought return tickets to Rome that cost me a total of 32 pounds, all in. Do I like being treated like a sheeple? Of course not. But I do like tickets to Rome for 32 pounds - quite liteerally just to have a dinner with a fried and back- and not having to drag my butt to heafrow-by-staines, so I manage.

I've flown RyanAir over 100 times in the last 5 years - maybe even 150. I've had a grand total of 3 delayed flights, one of which was due to the volcano. I have no love for the company, but I'd hate for them to be gone. I flew EasyJet to Nice last weekend. it was a better flying experience and in that case cost about the same, though the return flight was late (in that case due to the arrival of the president's falcon jet)

Ryanair flight attendants arent particularly attractive. it's just that if you have so many, as they do, some of them will be decent enough. It's quite funny to watch the evolution of them though - you can tell the new hires by the amount of effort they take to look good. And, unlike the USA, they don't pretend it's a "profession" that deserves "professional respect" or a pension plan. It's not a simple job, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

I don't care if they've got trolley dollies wearing nothing but thongs and giving out joints, I would never fly with the cheapskate dangerous arrogant coonts again. I would prefer to pay a couple of quid extra to fly with a company who will actually fly on the day/time specified, to an airport in a recognizable city within 50 miles of where I'm supposed to be and not charge me for every little farking thing en route. By the time you've been charged for all the add-ons they're not really cheaper anyway. Each time I have used Ryanair they have always been delayed or cancelled. The customer service is farking appalling and I would rather go by bus/train/ferry/walk than give them another pound.

ScottRiqui:nursedude: At least it's not Air Canada. Some of their flight attendants are getting a wee bit long in the tooth.

Same with American Airlines. They essentially stopped hiring flight attendants around 2000 or so, and were relying on attrition to thin the ranks. Supposedly they're going to hire 1500 new FAs next year, but we'll see if that happens.

I have a friend who's a flight attendant with AA, and even though she's been with them for thirteen years, she's near the bottom of the list, seniority-wise. Out of something like 13,000 attendants, she's junior to about 12,000 of them.

tl;dr version - there are a lot of aging sky-bunnies who absolutely refuse to quit.

From this article: "American has about 16,000 flight attendants, at an average age of 51, according to the association." And that's the average age. Damn.

FALSE. Ryanair doesn't fly to london. They fly to stansted. Which is fine by me, since I live not too far from Stansted.

And, I just bought return tickets to Rome that cost me a total of 32 pounds, all in. Do I like being treated like a sheeple? Of course not. But I do like tickets to Rome for 32 pounds - quite liteerally just to have a dinner with a fried and back- and not having to drag my butt to heafrow-by-staines, so I manage.

I've flown RyanAir over 100 times in the last 5 years - maybe even 150. I've had a grand total of 3 delayed flights, one of which was due to the volcano. I have no love for the company, but I'd hate for them to be gone. I flew EasyJet to Nice last weekend. it was a better flying experience and in that case cost about the same, though the return flight was late (in that case due to the arrival of the president's falcon jet)

Ryanair flight attendants arent particularly attractive. it's just that if you have so many, as they do, some of them will be decent enough. It's quite funny to watch the evolution of them though - you can tell the new hires by the amount of effort they take to look good. And, unlike the USA, they don't pretend it's a "profession" that deserves "professional respect" or a pension plan. It's not a simple job, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

You must work for that airline given how much of an apologist you are for them. Even if you are not, you're part of the problem. Professional respect and benefits are what make for a good airline given that the people working for them have no incentive to backstab - unlike that discount airline you defend. If that airline DIAF's, the world would be much better for its nonexistence.

Alien Robot:Same with American Airlines. They essentially stopped hiring flight attendants around 2000 or so, and were relying on attrition to thin the ranks. Supposedly they're going to hire 1500 new FAs next year, but we'll see if that happens.

I have a friend who's a flight attendant with AA, and even though she's been with them for thirteen years, she's near the bottom of the list, seniority-wise. Out of something like 13,000 attendants, she's junior to about 12,000 of them....

From this article: "American has about 16,000 flight attendants, at an average age of 51, according to the association." And that's the average age. Damn.

So? If you want the job done well, you dont do everything to antagonize the staff and customers a la that discount airline that shall not be named.

Charter a farking private plane if you want to join the Mile High Club with a stewardess.

/Flied with American Airlines and not a single bad experience with them//That and it helps that I have predictable seating and flat fees

sethstorm:sephjnr: karnal: Bomb Head MohammedYou must work for that airline given how much of an apologist you are for them. Even if you are not, you're part of the problem. Professional respect and benefits are what make for a good airline given that the people working for them have no incentive to backstab - unlike that discount airline you defend. If that airline DIAF's, the world would be much better for its nonexistence. ...

Sort yer quote tree out, I only made a stupid joke. I've never flown Ryan and am aware of its reputation enough to laugh at gags.

Alien Robot:ScottRiqui: nursedude: At least it's not Air Canada. Some of their flight attendants are getting a wee bit long in the tooth.

Same with American Airlines. They essentially stopped hiring flight attendants around 2000 or so, and were relying on attrition to thin the ranks. Supposedly they're going to hire 1500 new FAs next year, but we'll see if that happens.

I have a friend who's a flight attendant with AA, and even though she's been with them for thirteen years, she's near the bottom of the list, seniority-wise. Out of something like 13,000 attendants, she's junior to about 12,000 of them.

tl;dr version - there are a lot of aging sky-bunnies who absolutely refuse to quit.

From this article: "American has about 16,000 flight attendants, at an average age of 51, according to the association." And that's the average age. Damn.

Yeah - I talked to my friend a little bit this morning, and she said the *youngest* of them is 32.

ScottRiqui:Alien Robot: ScottRiqui: nursedude: At least it's not Air Canada. Some of their flight attendants are getting a wee bit long in the tooth.

Same with American Airlines. They essentially stopped hiring flight attendants around 2000 or so, and were relying on attrition to thin the ranks. Supposedly they're going to hire 1500 new FAs next year, but we'll see if that happens.

I have a friend who's a flight attendant with AA, and even though she's been with them for thirteen years, she's near the bottom of the list, seniority-wise. Out of something like 13,000 attendants, she's junior to about 12,000 of them.

tl;dr version - there are a lot of aging sky-bunnies who absolutely refuse to quit.

From this article: "American has about 16,000 flight attendants, at an average age of 51, according to the association." And that's the average age. Damn.

Yeah - I talked to my friend a little bit this morning, and she said the *youngest* of them is 32.