How to obtain:This is a PvP currency actually. You can acquire Bloody Coin by buying Censer of Eternal Agony (1000x Timeless Coin) from the said vendor then start ganking the opposite faction... or your own friends!* <evil gaze> Killing people earns you Bloody Coins. When you got the desired amount head back to the NPC and spend.The other way is to buy Fire-Watcher's Oath from Speaker Gulan for 100x Timeless Coin from the same vendor.The Oath and the Censer items apply the same effect on you and both can be used to collect Bloody Coins.

Hotfix changes in 5.4.8: They nerfed Censer of Eternal Agony by increasing its cooldown to 60 min while buffed Fire-Watcher's Oath to have its cooldown lowered to 10 min and by removing the mounting restriction. In addition to this, the Oath now has a 100% chance to earn Bloody Coin but there's still a short icd period on it.

* Note, that the Censer of Eternal Agony only works on Timeless Isle and you won't be able to kill ANY player on PvE realms until they turn on their PvP / they attack you. You will be hostile to them but they won't be to you. Also worth to mention that players with the censure buff are friendly for eachother and if you group up into a party or even raid you will be able to play as a whole Ordon emissary squad!

** Please note, you will earn coins by killing enemies only without the Sacrificed to Ordos buff on them! Killing people with this buff is pointless and are often considered as abusive action on non-pvp focused realms.

*** Also, there are some class/spec mechanic related bugs where you don't earn coins on killing blow, such as DKs' Purgatory, Priests' Spirit of Redemption, etc.

Comment by Lawkstarz

There is a way to acquire Bloody Coins other than PvP. Happy hunting :)

The Fire-Watcher's Oath you'll need 50 Bloody Coins to buy, so farm a little bit then buy it from the same guy you get the Censer from.

The Cauterizing Core you can sometimes loot form the Molten Guardians (Molten Guardian) that you can easily find around the Timeless Isle.

Once you and your friend have have all three items, let the farming begin! One of you use the Censer of Happy fun times and the Fire-Watchers oath. The other guy will use the Core and flag themselves. The Cauterizing Core acts like an endless Soul Stone, when you use the core one charge (out of 20) is used and will give you a buff lasting one hour. As long as that buff is up the player will be able to rez right on the spot with 20% health and mana.

All the technical gibberish aside, you'll basically be farming your friends ass non stop. Your buddy just has to hit the "Use Core" button to the right of the "Release Spirit" every time he died, not to hard! If you use the Fire-Watcher's Oath this process can almost go twice as fast but to the fact that you can occasionally get two Bloody Coins instead of one.

Both my friend and I were able to get 600 Bloody Coins for both the Ashhide Mushan Beast (Reins of the Ashhide Mushan Beast) and the Vengeful Porcupette (Vengeful Porcupette) in very little time. We just sat at some random place on the ilse void of other people who would want to gank us (Alliance...) and farmed our own asses off, literally!

Comment by Effectrix

I would be very grateful if someone on the PTR could answer a few questions for me:-Are Bloody Coins granted by all kills while under the effect of the Censer, or just honourable ones?-Are they granted only to the one who lands the killing blow, or anyone who takes part in a kill?-Are they in fact automatically added to your currency, or do they have to be looted?-Do you earn a single coin per kill, or is getting multiple a possibility (like how you can earn 9.07 honour on a kill, for example)?

Comment by Justincaser

I wish there was more stuff to buy with this currency. Once you have got every item once, there is not really anything to do with these coins, except buying the pet and selling it for gold. Maybe adding Magical Pet Biscuits or something else could make these coins worthwhile.

Comment by rastynicc

If you're a blood DK, with the Censer activated, your Bloodworms when exploding/healing grant bloody coins.

It seems they have hotfixed it, I tested it again and it no longer works, so looks like anyone wanting to get the mount is going to have to get it the hard way, sorry!

Comment by azek

I can confirm that these coins, on a PvE realm, are a PITA to farm. You can run around for an entire hour without ever seeing someone that is flagged for PvP.

The only hope here is to somehow, painfully, stalk and kill 50 elusive flagged players, and then do normal PvP using Fire-Watcher's Oath in WSG or something.

Comment by kwizzlix

Pretty stupid mechanic. They added something for PVP, however pretty much raiders own it due to their gear being alot better. If you PVP only, good luck killing a raider thats 50 ilvls a head of you.

Comment by Leronroll

Coins seem to only be granted on killing blow - however, the game is rather stingy about that. I have been in groups of 5 people in gank-squads, we've attacked people while all having the buff, killed the target without any enemy mobs, fall damage, or other players present, and simply not have the victim obtain the debuff that they were sacrificed to ordos - and no one gets a coin.

So, in short, it seems to require killing blows - but doesn't always grant blood coins on killing blows. If it gives an edge to melee killing blows and not ranged, I am uncertain.

Anything can interfere with a killing blow - cauterize damage, falling damage, a random mob, etc. To get a coin, you must have a killing blow. Even if you do get a killing blow, sometimes you will not get a coin.

I seem to get a coin 100% of the time if there is absolutely no intervention from anyone else - such as if I attack an afk player. But if one other person touched them once when they had more than half their health, I may or may not get a blood coin, even if I landed the killing blow. I have yet to detect some sort of pattern from this.

I have observed this on both dishing and and victim's end - I was KB'd by a buffed player and did NOT obtain the ordos debuff. From both the position of the victim and the attacker, this has happened on several occasions.

This is, needless to say, already incredibly frustrating - even for a damage-dealing class or high-end pvper. Basically, whoever has the best execution moves or sneaks in the last hit when playing in a group will rake in the most kills - that is assuming there is not a bug, or some other required mechanic that I have not yet discovered, that is coming into play - and that's not even considering if you're a healer, you'll have a much more hellish time than I have as a DK.

Frankly I find this very unfair and I want them to change it to credit based on honor kills, not killing blows. I would be happy with the prices on items being raised accordingly if it meant players that are not execution specialists / healers could be treated fairly - and my mains are dk and warlock, neither of which heal, so no shouting "get skil ppv nub" at me.

It seems to me, that calculated "trades" of bloody coins may be more effective than farming, even for skilled pvpers that are ganking and preying upon easy targets, and even considering the 10 min "Sacrificed" debuff, simply because of the system's buggy state / arbitrary judgement of what deserves a coin and what doesn't. I am left without position to condemn such trades as bad or exploitative given the obvious unfairness given to healers and the lack of fairness I feel I have received given the amount of effort I have put into pvping, compared to the coins I have been given as a result.

Second category: the censer of misunderstanding

You do NOT take a permanent 90% health reduction. It only -does damage- equivalent to 90% of your total health, meaning that to obtain the ordos blessing, you must use the item, then be out of combat long enough to heal. You DO NOT obtain a health reduction, it simply does temporary damage that you can heal right after. This is to prevent you from happening across players while you have the benefit of not being hostile to your own faction and switching the buff on mid-fight, and killing them. Find a private spot, do the long cast time, eat food or heal yourself.

UPDATE - On the mechanics of the censer buff-

You may have considered the benefit of finding one of the god-blessing shrines for use in pvp, considering they offer massive bonuses such as a flat 15% damage increase and similar benefits. Using the censer seems to remove several island-based buffs, including the god-blessing buffs. While I could reapply buffs from the books, each time I used a shrine while under the censer buff, the shrine gave me a "corrupted by ordos" error message - it seems you cannot utilize the shrine buffs when under the effects of the censer. That or I have simply been unusually unfortunate.

UPDATE - On the mechanics of the censer buff, part 2 -

I can confirm that you can also not use the unique spells related to the "timeless legends" achievement with the censer buff - I tested collecting one with the buff on, and having one then triggering the censer buff. Switching the censer buff on cancelled the buff that granted the spell, and while I received the buff when I looted one of the items, and got achievement credit, the buff was cancelled almost instantly. As such I can now confirm the censer buff cannot be used in conjunction with the unique spell buffs.

Other notes:

You will want to farm the altars of ordos for black ash, as that will be very helpful when you're not ganking someone that is low health fighting a mob. Among rares to prioritize, if you wish to farm bloody coins, faintly glowing herbs from the leafy guy is probably your best target, as these two items will be very useful in pvp.

Comment by Briandris

This is a ridiculous item. I understand this is an imaginary world, Blizzard has made a real attempt in most areas to make an imaginary world as believable as possible and most days they do an excellent job:) This item however is just silly. What kind of army, rebellious group or any other type of group kills it's own soldiers? I mean really, if you kill off your own army, you are gonna lose the war, plain and simple. For that reason, it irritates me.

EDIT: It is also not doing anything positive for the already trashy, antagonizing general/trade chat:(

Comment by wyofra

I was with a group of 5 people and we ran around killing everyone and everything. After 30 minutes I got one coin but many more honorable kills. Not sure I understand how this really works

Comment by Sulphuric

The debuff applied to a player upon death will not expire in duration while logged out. In other words, no you can't use a friends account, move all his/her naked characters to the graveyard and repeatedly kill him/her while logging between the characters.

Neither do you get any bloody coin if the player you kill is a) Death Knight with the Purgatory talent or b) Holy Priest.

Comment by Curtarc

Farming these coins on a PVE server is pretty much impossible, especially in a small server like my own so I had decided from the start to just farm a friend of mine and in a matter of months getting the mount. However, since I want the mount so badly, I gave world PVP a try but I literally took 5 hours of wandering around to find 1 single guy with the PVP flag that had just arrived from arena. I even tryed to AFK for a while in a higher populated area but after 1 hour of no attacks I eventually gave up.

Just as I was about to resign completely I noticed a horde guy in my server(that was under the incense) was acting pretty weird when around rares or groups of mobs(I play as alliance) and whenever there was a rare around he would just stick himself to the rare until it got killed and there would be always someone that would attack him by mistake, getting PVP flagged and finally killed by him. I didn't give much thought into this because I believed that it would take him forever to get the mount this way, surely faster than friend farming yes, but still a long time.

That was until a few days later he showed up with the mount, meaning that it took him around 10 days to get it, which is pretty decent if you ask me, so I decided to try this and see if I could succeed as he did. All I can say is that it works, if you find a rare, just stick close to it and the more people around to kill the rare, the higher the chances someone will hit you by mistake. Melee classes seem to fall more easily to this method, and even against normal mobs it's not that hard to make a melee accidently hit you with this method. Whenever you see people killing 3/4/5 mobs at the same time, there is a good chance you will make someone attack you, so it's also a good way to get someone PVP flagged.

It still takes a long time to farm the coins, but at least now I see a light at the end of the tunnel. One thing I must warn you about though, while some people don't mind being killed and even stand quietly for you to kill them, others might react badly to this method and can say some nasty things to you. All I can say is to try and be polite to them, explain why you're doing this and why you are left without any other choices. It works with most people and they eventually accept your explanations, there is of cource those that say things like "this is a PVE server, you're not supposed to farm this mount" or "Don't kill me anymore or I will report you to a GM" or even become so mad that they bring friends to persue you throughout the whole island, but it's a minority that does this.

Good luck everyone!

Comment by Bezukov

Farming this is actually not that hard on a PVE server. The way to do it is to attack the rares on the island, and get people to accidentally click you during the rare fight and flag themselves for PVP. I'm a hunter, so it's even easier for me; every rare fight at least one person attacks my pet.

Comment by Noldorimbor

For those who are on PvE servers, yes, it's near impossible. I use a friend who is on a pvp server. he invites me to a party with his alt so I phase into his realm. On a pvp realm the second you use Censor, everyone is ripe to kill :)

Comment by animal446155

so bloody coin is hard for pve . Can 1 stand naked in timeless isle with this buff on and repeatally get ganked by a fire line bergade ! by time last toon ganks first is up per 10 min timer ! hopes they got buff on too !

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Comment by bradley7735

It's not that hard on a PVE server. But, you need alts. lots of alts makes it faster. I found out that if you leave an alt in an Inn (like the one on Timeless Isle), and do not log on that alt for approximately 8 hours, the debuff wears off. So, farm your alts in the morning and in the evening for coins. I was farming 8 alts, twice a day and got my 500 coin mount in about 1 month. It took me about 15 minutes per 'round' to farm my alts. I could get two at a time out of the inn and log into my main to kill them. I only had people interfere with me twice in all the farming.

The trick is to not log on your alt for 8 hours.

Explanation on how to kill your own alt: Move your alt outside of the inn (you can't be in a "rest" area.) Exit the game, immediately (click "exit now" instead of waiting the 20 seconds to exit.) When you do this, your character will stay on the live server for about 40 seconds. You then open up the game again, log in your main character, and kill your alt. Your main character needs to be located close to where your alt was when you exited the game. You won't have time to move to the location if you are far away. You have about 20 seconds to kill your alt for your coin. Helpful hints: Flag pvp on your alt, otherwise you can't kill it with your main. take off all your gear on your alt, the lower HP you have, the faster you can kill it with your main.

If you are fast at logging in, you can move two alts out of the inn and have time to kill both. You will need a pretty well geared main and you should focus on the first alt that exited the game, then kill the second one. I could never kill three alts at the same time, because the first one would leave the environment at about the same time I could get logged on my main.

Comment by Alaurynn

Being on a low-pop PvE server, and not having any PvP gear or experience, I found farming for these coins to be practically impossible. I just bought the Vengeful Porcupette on the AH for 19k and it was the best money I ever spent. Small price to pay for someone else to go through the headache of earning these coins. Just wish I could buy the Reins of the Ashhide Mushan Beast the same way. To me, the mount is just not worth the hassle when it's only a slightly different color than two other mounts and it can't fly. Way to screw this one up, Blizz.

Comment by Menardis

I'm almost on the 1k coin achievement for this and ever since I got my pet and mount, I have been spending my bloody coins on Black Ash

I cannot understate how useful Black Ash is when you're farming. Not only does it stack up to a max of 99 so it doesn't clutter your bags, it is your best friend and an essential item if you want to not only farm coins, but survive and thrive against small groups of players who won't think twice about dropping you.

The item essentially breaks healers, and in wpvp this translates to having more emergency cooldowns and crowd control available to use against any number of external factors such as another player turning up to stop you, a mob that may take your killing blow necessary for the coin. Against hybrids and classes with strong self healing or second phases like Warriors or Druids do that you match for gear and skill, it's the game changer.

It gives you more efficient kills and a faster farm, and also lets you think about fighting against players in PvE gear with insane stamina stats. The item simply pays for itself, the only drawback being the 20 yard range, but this is understandable on an Island where a 40 yard or even 30 yard range would mean that you could wipe Ordos and Celestial raids and be long gone before the rest of the raid notices anything wrong.

Edit: considering the 10 second duration and the length of some wpvp fights, I would make a set focus macro for this item. This can come in really handy if you're up to your eyeballs in extra targets like the turtles on the beach between the two faction bases.

Comment by teebsalot

You wanna know what this is all about?

As I fly through the mists on my way to the isleI take a look at my 'chieve and realize there's thousands leftCause I've been farmin and gankin so long,That even my guildies think that my karma's goneBut I ain't never killed a man that wasn't worth itMe be gankin debuffed kids you know that's unheard ofYou better watch where you're cleavin, Aoe'inOr your debuffed ass might be lined in chalkI never really group, so I get the mostAs they croak, I see myself in the kidney-smoke, foolI'm the kinda DPS the little noobies wanna be likeI'm 'bout the kills in the night slayin kids in the Sunset

Been spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseBeen spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradise

Look at both factions they got me facin'I can't run and get a heal, I have no party with meSo I gotta be down with the shells manToo much Purgatory blockin got me missin creamI'm an achievement #$%^& with points on my mindGot my 10 bein tracked and a gleam in my eyeI'm a geared out gangsta; y'all are in dangerAnd my bar's cooled down so don't arouse my anger, foolDeath ain't nothing but a heartbeat away,I'm gettin' coins, go and cry; death threats all I seeI'm 23 now, but will I live to see 24The way tells are going I don't knowTell me why are they so blind to seeThe zone they're in's for PvP

Been spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseBeen spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradise

Power and the coins, coins and the powerMinute after minute, hour after hourEverybody's running, at half speed cause they crippledBuddy died while still mounted, so I know he'll be fumingThey say I gotta die, but nobody here can get meIf they can't one shot it, how can they kill meI guess they can't, I guess they won'tI guess they front, that's how I know my buff is safe, fool

Been spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseBeen spending most their lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradiseKeep spending most our lives, farmin in the ganker's paradise

Tell me why are they so blind to seeThe zone they're in's for PvPTell me why are they so blind to seeThe zone they're in's for PvP

Comment by Jazzycakes2

A great tip if you are on a low pop server and have several level 90 alts.

Open up WoW -> Take your main character to a safe spot on timeless Isle, log out but keep WoW open.Open up WoW again -> Take your alt character to the same safe spot your main logged out onTab to the original WoW your Main was logged in on -> Quickly relog in and zone in on your main.

Your alt should have about 40 seconds of being still logged in after the dc, you can then kill your alt for their coin.

Comment by KingOfKingz2109

3 Charges, each will make you invulnerable - for 20 seconds. No cooldown and the mob respawns after 5-10 minutes.So you are able to be one minute invulnerable, if you use three charges in a row.

For example: a warlock who wants to farm bloody coins. Set your demonic circle on top of the bridge were Huolon spawns. Now you can stand on the ground, kill people who want to pass. If you now get in trouble, use this item and use your circle - you are now safe.

Comment by Kristin

Due to the difficulty of obtaining these and overall shift in why players visit the Timeless Isle (mostly alts and boosted characters at this point), the devs decided to significantly buff the droprate of Bloody Coins. Community Manager Lore:

Thanks for all the feedback on this change. We agree that the chance to earn a Bloody Coin from the Fire-Watcher’s Oath buff felt too low, especially with all the competition for killing blows in Battlegrounds. We’ve just pushed a hotfix that will increase the chance of earning a Bloody Coin from a killing blow while Fire-Watcher’s Oath is active to 100%. Enjoy!

The cooldown of Fire-Watcher's Oath has been reduced to 10 minutes (which matches its duration)

You can now mount with the Fire-Watcher's Oath buff active

You will earn a Bloody Coin from every killing blow while Fire-Watcher's Oath is active

Now get to farming! Good luck :)

Comment by Zaenux

I'm currently playing my Arms warrior through Battlegrounds in the 90-99 bracket whilst using the Fire-Watcher's Oath on CD as it's really easy to snipe kills with a 40 rage Execute. I've gone countless games ending with a score of 20-0 or more with a pocket healer in a group and sniping kills off of others.

It's extremely effective, I'll easily have enough for the mount by the time I'm level 100.

Comment by yoojine

By far the best way to farm coins as a level 100 is to go to the entrance of Halls of Lightning in Storm Peaks. There you'll find a steady stream of (boosted) level 90 bots chain running the dungeon, JUST within the appropriate level range, either stepping out and right back into the dungeon, or flying to the nearby camp to vendor their loot before flying back. Bonus points if they're also using a flying hack for ultra illegality. In any case a quick CC and a few attacks and you'll kill them easy, for lots of easy coins with little danger to yourself. A few tips: 1. Try this late at night or early in the morning because a lot of botters turn on their bots and then go to bed. 2. Park yourself right in front of the middle of the entrance, because a lot of bots stealth themselves before running in and out. You'll still see them if you're right on top of them though, thanks to stealth rules and the level difference.3. Loken, the last boss of Halls of Lightning, drops a music roll with the spectacular Storm Peaks music. Consider joining the farmers for a run or two to see if it'll drop =) Any level 100 can easily farm the instance solo. 4. Think of it this way- you're farming the mount/pet AND helping Blizzard with their rampant bot problem. Win/win.::EDIT:: as of late April, it appears Blizzard broke whatever bot the gold farmers were using to farm HoL. Good news for WoW players, but sad news for Bloody Coin grinding. I'll update when the botters inevitably evolve and make their return.

Comment by illiterate

I found it easiest to farm these in random bgs on my MM hunter. With lone wolf anyone that falls under 35% is a free coin.

Comment by jjanchan

There are two items that allow you to obtain this currency, as outlined below:

This item grants a 1 hour debuff that CANNOT be cancelled unless you a) Die or b) Leave the Timeless Isle.

The debuff allows you to kill members of both your own AND the the opposite faction while on the Timeless Isle, and collect Bloody Coin.

With this debuff, you are hostile to your own faction, the opposite faction, celestial court guards, and flight masters (including your own). As such they can all attack you.

Activating this item maintains your current form and race, but makes you translucent and red in colour.

When used, this item does damage to you equal to 90% of you maximum health. It does NOT change your maximum health - it just means you have to heal up the initial damage taken. This also means that if you are below 90% health, it will instantly kill you.

Logging out will freeze the duration of the buff with it's current duration, but the cooldown on the item will continue to countdown while logged out.

The item can be used while mounted, without dismounting you.

Targets usually can be killed repeatedly, as the Censer of Eternal Agony debuff is only applied inconsistently, and not on every kill. In many instances you can obtain a Bloody Coin on multiple kills of the same person.

This buff does not stack with the debuff from Censer of Eternal Agony, and whichever of these items is used later will overwrite the other.

Comment by jjanchan

This item grants a 1 hour debuff that CANNOT be cancelled unless you a) Die or b) Leave the Timeless Isle.

The debuff allows you to kill members of both your own AND the the opposite faction while on the Timeless Isle, and collect Bloody Coin.

With this debuff, you are hostile to your own faction, the opposite faction, celestial court guards, and flight masters (including your own). As such they can all attack you.

Activating this item maintains your current form and race, but makes you translucent and red in colour.

When used, this item does damage to you equal to 90% of you maximum health. It does NOT change your maximum health - it just means you have to heal up the initial damage taken. This also means that if you are below 90% health, it will instantly kill you.

Logging out will freeze the duration of the buff with it's current duration, but the cooldown on the item will continue to countdown while logged out.

The item can be used while mounted, without dismounting you.

Targets usually can be killed repeatedly, as the Sacrificed to Ordos debuff is only applied inconsistently, and not on every kill. In many instances you can obtain a Bloody Coin on multiple kills of the same person.

This buff does not stack with the debuff from Censer of Eternal Agony, and whichever of these items is used later will overwrite the other.

Comment by smushtime

As of at least today on Magtheridon, bots are back in business at the entrance to HoL. Sadly, boosts are now lvl 100 and take a little longer to kill. Still plenty of 90s though.

Also, my spot as a range, is the little hill to the right of the repair tent. This is an amazing spot, as you can kill them twice in a row. Once as they are repairing, and again when the res above in the air. Enjoy and good luck.

Edit: Took about 1.5h to farm 150 Bloody Coin but if varies if someone else is killing or not.

Comment by Roddox

MM hunter is the best class for bot-farming coins in my opinion. Melee and classes without a couple instant abilities can have a hard time as bots are fast and can fly without mounting. Camping repair npcs is your best option on such a case. Chimaera shot, kill shot, barrage, lone wolf and the 46 yard range from sniper training buff 1 shot all the lv 90 bots. Hunters can also track humanoids so when they rez behind walls or trees outside your range of view they don't stand a chance.

The best bot locations I think are Halls of lightning and the Iron Summit repair in searing gorge, Gundrak can be hit and miss as only lv90 and above bots give coins. The addon Cross Realm Assist is great for hopping in order to find em. Since Blizz started the bot ban waves you wont find a huge stream of bots exiting the instances anymore. I prefered farming 100-150 coins per sitting - more if there were lots of bots.

If you kill a DK bot with purgatory or Priest bot with that post-death ghost thing you wont get a coin sadly. Rogues will go stealth when they rez so you have to be quick. Track humanoids can find em if you're close by. Druids are the best bots for killing. As a hunter you also have the bonus of dismounting in the air, killing them with chimaera and disengaging before you land.