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Trying to quit smoking, should I be worried about dreams?

Alright, so, I'm trying to quit smoking. I've tried a couple times before, did decently, but eventually failed(all were cold turkey). Anyways, I'm trying again, but using a nicotine patch(walgreens brand, if it matters). The box mentioned that side effects could be vivid dreams and hallucinations. Now, I'm not much of a dreamer. That is to say, I almost never remember my dreams, maybe a tidbit of one every week or so.

Now that I'm the patch, though, I'm dreaming every night, and remembering large parts of them. I've never been as excited to go to sleep before. However, is this something I should be worried about? I mean... its just dreaming, right? I don't think its harmful, but I figured I'd throw out the net and see if anyone had anything to say.

It might not even be the patch affecting you; it could be a mental thing. You read the package, went to sleep thinking about the fact that you might start dreaming more vividly, and those thoughts themselves trigger the dreams.

I have a friend who used the new pill to stop, and eventually stopped taking it because the dreams were so gruesome he couldn't take it anymore. That pill works completely differently from the way the patch works though.

No wonder I want to wrap you up and take you home
I'm looking forward to the chance to meet again, but then again it all depends
Suddenly I'm not so sure that intentions can be pure
If I could just throw all my doubts into the wind I think that they'd come back again

Dreaming is fine. Also, dreaming about cigarettes is fine. If you don't have any dreams about smoking I'd be shocked, anyone who quits anything dreams about it.

As a guy who successfully quit smoking and like a million other things, my advice would be:

1. Remember that cravings go away if you ignore them.

2. Throw away all your lighters and ashtrays and all your other shit. Keeping anything is an invitation to relapse.

3. Remember the date and (if possible) time of your last cigarette. Count every day and think of it like a high score: If you have another one, you have to start aaaalllll over, and your "score" will never be as high as it would have been before. Also, the first few days are the worst. Do you really want to go through that shit again?

New Year’s Eve is the best. For one magical night, even the most straight-laced babe feels socially obligated to get blindingly drunk and act like a total whore. Pretty daddy’s girls with blond hair and tight asses swill cheap champagne and toss back shots of peach schnapps until they’re flashing their big, firm tits at any chump who wanders by.

New Year’s Eve is the best. For one magical night, even the most straight-laced babe feels socially obligated to get blindingly drunk and act like a total whore. Pretty daddy’s girls with blond hair and tight asses swill cheap champagne and toss back shots of peach schnapps until they’re flashing their big, firm tits at any chump who wanders by.

New Year’s Eve is the best. For one magical night, even the most straight-laced babe feels socially obligated to get blindingly drunk and act like a total whore. Pretty daddy’s girls with blond hair and tight asses swill cheap champagne and toss back shots of peach schnapps until they’re flashing their big, firm tits at any chump who wanders by.

The dreams will probably fade as you adjust to your new 'condition'. When I quit smoking weed I had a week of really wild, vivid dreams, and I hardly ever remember my dreams, let alone have interesting ones. Whether quitting smoking cigarettes is similar, I have no idea. I stopped smoking those too, but I was never heavily addicted so the withdrawal could hardly even be called a withdrawal.

I'm not getting off the patch because I'm afraid of dreams(I was pretty much looking for an excuse before). I read that book zilo recommended, and I don't want/need the patch anymore.

Bullshit.

Now you just replaced one excuse for another.

You'll be back to smoking in a matter of months if you stop now.

No, I won't. Not only don't I want a cigarette now, but I know I wont anymore, and I feel better than I ever have trying to quit before. I'm not going to torture myself with it anymore, because I really don't want to smoke.

I'm not getting off the patch because I'm afraid of dreams(I was pretty much looking for an excuse before). I read that book zilo recommended, and I don't want/need the patch anymore.

Bullshit.

Now you just replaced one excuse for another.

You'll be back to smoking in a matter of months if you stop now.

No, I won't. Not only don't I want a cigarette now, but I know I wont anymore, and I feel better than I ever have trying to quit before. I'm not going to torture myself with it anymore, because I really don't want to smoke.

I appreciate the concern, though.

You say that now

what happens in a month from now when you see someone light one up, and catch a whiff. Or see another dude flick aside the best tasting cigarette he ever had.

You're not done with this yet, even if you think you are. I've seen people farther a long than you regress back. Go for the overkill. I find it hard to believe you started this thread with one method of quitting and now all of the sudden some dude recommends a book and you are clean.

New Year’s Eve is the best. For one magical night, even the most straight-laced babe feels socially obligated to get blindingly drunk and act like a total whore. Pretty daddy’s girls with blond hair and tight asses swill cheap champagne and toss back shots of peach schnapps until they’re flashing their big, firm tits at any chump who wanders by.

I'm not getting off the patch because I'm afraid of dreams(I was pretty much looking for an excuse before). I read that book zilo recommended, and I don't want/need the patch anymore.

Bullshit.

Now you just replaced one excuse for another.

You'll be back to smoking in a matter of months if you stop now.

No, I won't. Not only don't I want a cigarette now, but I know I wont anymore, and I feel better than I ever have trying to quit before. I'm not going to torture myself with it anymore, because I really don't want to smoke.

I appreciate the concern, though.

You say that now

what happens in a month from now when you see someone light one up, and catch a whiff. Or see another dude flick aside the best tasting cigarette he ever had.

You're not done with this yet, even if you think you are. I've seen people farther a long than you regress back. Go for the overkill. I find it hard to believe you started this thread with one method of quitting and now all of the sudden some dude recommends a book and you are clean.

a patch or a pill is no more a guarantee than cold steel resolve and an iron clad will.

New Year’s Eve is the best. For one magical night, even the most straight-laced babe feels socially obligated to get blindingly drunk and act like a total whore. Pretty daddy’s girls with blond hair and tight asses swill cheap champagne and toss back shots of peach schnapps until they’re flashing their big, firm tits at any chump who wanders by.

I'm not getting off the patch because I'm afraid of dreams(I was pretty much looking for an excuse before). I read that book zilo recommended, and I don't want/need the patch anymore.

Bullshit.

Now you just replaced one excuse for another.

You'll be back to smoking in a matter of months if you stop now.

No, I won't. Not only don't I want a cigarette now, but I know I wont anymore, and I feel better than I ever have trying to quit before. I'm not going to torture myself with it anymore, because I really don't want to smoke.

I appreciate the concern, though.

You say that now

what happens in a month from now when you see someone light one up, and catch a whiff. Or see another dude flick aside the best tasting cigarette he ever had.

You're not done with this yet, even if you think you are. I've seen people farther a long than you regress back. Go for the overkill. I find it hard to believe you started this thread with one method of quitting and now all of the sudden some dude recommends a book and you are clean.

Me too, to be perfectly honest. I spent way too long reading the book last night(I work early, should have been catching up on sleep), but it really got me critically thinking about smoking, and realizing what I was doing. Every time before that I've quit, it was giving up smoking. I had to give it up, for this or that reason. But now, I actually don't want to smoke, and I'm glad to be getting rid of it.

I'm not moping about having to "give it up" anymore, and not feeling guilty as I smoke(because I'm not), its the best of both worlds.

What happens in a month? I look at that, and remember how gross cigarette's taste(nobody smokes them because they enjoy the taste), and how there are no benefits from smoking, simply relief from the symptoms it causes. That the next cigarette just feeds the chain of wanting more, and I don't want more. I work around smokers, and live around them, and when I see it, and smell it, I smile, because I realize that I'm done with it, and I'm so happy about it.

I know people can regress, after years, or decades. But I don't want to smoke anymore, I'm so happy that I'm not, and it only gets better from here on out. It may be hard to believe, but I'm done, and I'm happy.

If you don't believe me, ask yourself, when are the most "enjoyable" cigarettes you have? The ones after you can't smoke, after a flight, during a break on work, after a meal. Why are these more "enjoyable"? Because the enjoyment is simply relief from the nicotine withdrawl. You're kidding yourself, possibly literally, if you think you enjoy the taste. You've simply made yourself believe that when you smoked, because otherwise, you wouldn't have smoked.

Nicotine addiction isn't that strong, absolutely. Its the belief that it is, and the brainwashing we've all gone through of seeing smokers trying to quit and moping, and hating it, that makes us feel the same way. We believe we're being deprived of some reward, when there is no reward.

Nicotine addiction isn't that strong, absolutely. Its the belief that it is, and the brainwashing we've all gone through of seeing smokers trying to quit and moping, and hating it, that makes us feel the same way. We believe we're being deprived of some reward, when there is no reward.

Except for the cold sweats and uncontrollable fits of shaking and total inability to sleep that my father experienced, I'd agree with you.

If you don't believe me, ask yourself, when are the most "enjoyable" cigarettes you have? The ones after you can't smoke, after a flight, during a break on work, after a meal. Why are these more "enjoyable"? Because the enjoyment is simply relief from the nicotine withdrawl. You're kidding yourself, possibly literally, if you think you enjoy the taste. You've simply made yourself believe that when you smoked, because otherwise, you wouldn't have smoked.

Nicotine addiction isn't that strong, absolutely. Its the belief that it is, and the brainwashing we've all gone through of seeing smokers trying to quit and moping, and hating it, that makes us feel the same way. We believe we're being deprived of some reward, when there is no reward.

But hey, quitting is quitting.

This is inherintly not true.

Before I was ever addicted, before there was ever enough nicotine in my system to feel any effects other than an upset stomach, the social act and yes, the taste, drew me in.

If you think all cigarettes taste disgusting you've never smoked anything worth smoking.

Are you guys really coming into an "I'm quitting" thread and trying to convince the guy that it is in fact an awesome and delicious habit?

No, but as a post-smoker, I resent people who act as if the habit is some jedi mind trick corporations played on us.

I agree. I smoked for a year and then quit and I can say that all you've said is spot on. Especially about taste. HOW anyone can keep smoking while using Camels is BEYOND ME. That shit made me WANT to quit

ALSO - I tried quitting by using a patch, because I thought I needed that. I ended up having these dreams which ended up being auras. So, just a heads up that it could be bad.

Nicotine addiction isn't that strong, absolutely. Its the belief that it is, and the brainwashing we've all gone through of seeing smokers trying to quit and moping, and hating it, that makes us feel the same way. We believe we're being deprived of some reward, when there is no reward.

Except for the cold sweats and uncontrollable fits of shaking and total inability to sleep that my father experienced, I'd agree with you.

I think a lot of it depends on the person and how much and how long they smoke. Part of it's psychological, I agree; but there is a huge chemical dependency there also. The degree which a person is effected by each probably can vary a lot.

I wouldn't worry about the dreams until you've actually stopped smoking. I've quit and relapsed a couple of times over the years, every time I've gone cold turkey and every time it's been different. I've had physical symptoms every time but they were the typical ones for withdrawal - irritability, nausea, cold sweats, and low grade fever. None of them were that bad, either, and they only last for the first 10 days or so. After that it's all gravy.

The only time I've ever had any kind of major sleep disturbance was when I used a nicotine patch...that shit gave me nightmares that would have had Bosch painting his next masterpiece. I'm talking waking up in a cold FEAR sweat not knowing where I was and frightened out of my wits. I stopped using the patch after that and had no issues from then on.