Zimmerman's defense was paid for by political advocacy groups. You don't get to back someone for political ends (which he accepted) and then say "move on" once he's done serving your purposes. (I mean the collective you, not you specifically.) A lot of causes got into bed with this guy, and now they have to see how it all plays out. That was always my argument from the beginning - why in the hell are gun groups backing THIS guy. It's such a murky case, racially charged, with a sympathetic shooting victim, and the shooter is so obviously an unbalanced person. It was very shortsighted. The odds of him killing again, or killing himself, or getting involved in some other bad shiat, are very high. As a gun owner, this is not at all the person I want representing me in the eyes of the general public.

I was referring to the submitter. Bs during a divioce ain't news. It's a matter of course.

Yes they did. The police chief said they found the gun in his truck, which is where his wife on the 911 tape said he was and that he was "raging" and threatening them to come closer. He was still standing by his truck when the police arrived. The confusion is that he was not carrying the gun ON HIS PERSON during the incident. But it was right there the whole time.

I'll have to read the story again, then.

Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.

/ a buddy's wife of 10 years dropped that particular bomb on him two weeks ago. He said that she said that she "didn't want the house or his money". I told him to get a lawyer, like 5 minutes ago.

Mid_mo_mad_man:Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman. Definitely. His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom. Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right. Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

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No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

rhondajeremy:Mid_mo_mad_man: Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bslim: jonny_q: Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman. Definitely. His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom. Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right. Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

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No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

Go grammar Nazi go!!!

I'm not a grammar nazi. I was saying that the jury said it was lawful killing which is not a murder. Calling him a murderer is libel/slander.

shower_in_my_socks:Zimmerman's defense was paid for by political advocacy groups. You don't get to back someone for political ends (which he accepted) and then say "move on" once he's done serving your purposes. (I mean the collective you, not you specifically.) A lot of causes got into bed with this guy, and now they have to see how it all plays out. That was always my argument from the beginning - why in the hell are gun groups backing THIS guy. It's such a murky case, racially charged, with a sympathetic shooting victim, and the shooter is so obviously an unbalanced person. It was very shortsighted. The odds of him killing again, or killing himself, or getting involved in some other bad shiat, are very high. As a gun owner, this is not at all the person I want representing me in the eyes of the general public.

They've already covered that aspect. If he does anything now, ANYTHING, it's all part of the liberal conspiracy to smear him and/or the liberal msm media hounded him to do it. Doesn't matter if he posts online he's going out to rape children, then goes out and rapes children right on Fox News, it's the liberals fault.

cretinbob:RoyHobbs22: He won't shoot his wife, she's white. I certainly hope the mailman delivering the certified letter of divorce paraphernalia is not a minority.You sure that she's white? She looks hispanic.[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]

She looks like a Grade-A coont. It should have been a match made in heaven. Damn you, Trayvon Martin, for destroying such a beautiful marriage!

freak7:When that person then hops on you, bangs your head off the cement and then continues taking swings? You're goddamn right it is. Trayvon was a violent thug with a long history of criminal activity and got exactly what he deserved.

Zimmerman. Definitely. His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom. Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

Just like what happened to OJ.

Except OJ actually murdered two people and Zimmerman didn't.

You're exactly right. Zimmerman actually murdered one person.

.

No, Zimmerman did not murder anyone. Please learn what the word you use mean before posting.

Go grammar Nazi go!!!

I'm not a grammar nazi. I was saying that the jury said it was lawful killing which is not a murder. Calling him a murderer is libel/slander.

No, the jury did not find it to be a lawful killing, all they decided was that there was not enough evidence to overcome the burden of proof.

It is almost a foregone conclusion that he will be found civilly liable if the Martin family decides to pursue it further.

iheartscotch:Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.

Keep in mind, she perjured herfself lying about how much money he was hiding.

freak7:By observing their actions. Let me guess, you're about to claim that Trayvon was doing nothing to make himself suspicious and that George only called to report him because he saw a black kid in his all white paradise, right?

No, I mean if YOU'RE the guy who's being defined as suspicious, how do you know that YOU'RE suspicious? I think your inability to look at the situation from the point of view of anyone but Zimmerman is pretty telling.

jonny_q:Benevolent Misanthrope: Nadie_AZ: Who is self destructing faster? Him or Miley?

Zimmerman. Definitely. His whole defense for the Martin case was that he was not the loon that people thought he was, he didn't stalk that kid, he acted only in self-defense, the whole thing was a plot to take his perfectly reasonable behaviour and make it out to be unreasonable... and ever since he was acquitted, he's had problem after problem that makes it look like maybe he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole.

It's only a matter of time before he hits bottom. Hopefully, there won't be a mass shooting involved.

Or, you know, maybe this is the toll taken on a person who, through just trying to be a good person, becomes a household name and is called a "unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole" likely to start a mass-shooting by random people on the internet. He can't go in public without being hated. Hell... he can't even help out as the witness of an accident without accusation that his lawyer stages the whole thing. It's no wonder his family fell apart.

Of course, I'm no more sure of my theory than you are of yours, but guess which version is more likely based on the facts....

He gets pulled over, he has a gun concealed in the glove box. He has a fight with his wife and acts like a farking crazy person. That in itself can send someone 'round the twist, and more likely so if it's not true. I didn't say he is an unreasonable, gun-worshipping, violent, overreaching asshole - I said his problems since that conviction have made him start to look like one.

Police statements about it were confusing. They said he didn't have a gun on his person, but the chief said there was a gun in his truck, but at the same time the police were not allowed to search his truck. It's possible that when asked, Zimmerman just told them "yeah, I have a gun in my glovebox" or whatever. I would be shocked if Zimmerman ever leaves his house again without a gun, either on him or at least in his vehicle. I sure as hell wouldn't go out without a gun if I was him now.

jaytkay:According to some Internet Florida lawyer I googled, if you can't serve the defendant in person, you have to file an affidavit with the court, convince the judge that you really tried, and then publish a notice once per week for four weeks.

freak7:By observing their actions. Let me guess, you're about to claim that Trayvon was doing nothing to make himself suspicious and that George only called to report him because he saw a black kid in his all white paradise, right?

I'm sure you have some sort of credible evidence that Martin was behaving in a suspicious manner, right?

grumpfuff:So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.

I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

iheartscotch:shower_in_my_socks: iheartscotch: they didn't find the gun that was supposedly involved.

Yes they did. The police chief said they found the gun in his truck, which is where his wife on the 911 tape said he was and that he was "raging" and threatening them to come closer. He was still standing by his truck when the police arrived. The confusion is that he was not carrying the gun ON HIS PERSON during the incident. But it was right there the whole time.

I'll have to read the story again, then.

Still, I'm going with vindictive wife on this one. She's the one who got hit with the perjury charge during the trial. That's going to color any divorce proceeding. That is, unless, she can make zim look like a deranged mad man. Divorce is a very interesting thing; both parties lie, out of their asses, to screw over the other party.

She doesn't have to lie here though - "Your honor, my husband was involved in a highly publicized and controversial murder trial where we were threatened and had to go into hiding. Even though I was in fear for my life, he chose to be an AW by touring a gun factory after the verdict. His actions are reckless and negligent."

freak7:Well except that Trayvon didn't take of running right away, he stood there looking at Zim for a bit before doing so. All this time he's on the phone, shooting the breeze with his female friend. Yeah, he was terrified, right?

What's your source for Martin's demeanor?

/I'm going to guess... Zimmerman's account of the events, right? :)//Do you see a theme to your posts yet? I do.

Mid_mo_mad_man:grumpfuff: So..somebody mentioned OJ up thread and it reminds me of a pet peeve of mine.

I've seen quite a few people that defend Zimmerman and also profess OJ was a murdering murderer.

Why is the finding of the court the "end all be all" in Zimmerman's case, but not OJ's?

No one ever doubted Zimmerman shot Martin. It was a self defense case. OJ denied it from the get go. It's an apple and oranges situation. I think OJ did it but the case was botched and he walked. I'm not angry over it. The state didn't prove his case beyond a doubt. Now I do agree with the civil case outcome. That's another thing Zimmerman is immune from civil action. He's free and legally it's a settled marter

That really didn't address my question.

What I'm saying is there are people who say something to the effect of "Zimmerman was tried and found not guilty, so you have to accept that, but OJ is a murdering murderer who murders,even though he was tried and found not guilty."

It reminds me a lot of the "Obama is an empty suit dictator!" nonsense.

iheartscotch:1. I don't care to hear about farking George Zimmerman every time he takes a farking shiat. It's almost like 24 hour news networks use him to fill vacant time slots. He was acquitted; get over it.

2. Duuuuuude; divorce that girl, before she Lorena Bobetts you.

3. I should really get stock in scotch and popcorn stocks for these threads.