Got my 64" today. Had the 60" because it fit perfectly on my stand. Decided to get the 64" because I wanted the biggest panel I could get since I'm not going to buy another TV for 5 years most likely. Wow, what a monster this thing is. Need to do a little re-arranging of the entertainment unit, but I'm glad I got the 64". My 60" buzzed, but I have not heard anything out of the 64". Thank you Lord for giving me the means to own this fantastic piece of equipment. Finally, all my blurays to be displayed in all their glory!

As an example, is see the effects of the filter 16ft away and where my eyes are 14" above the top of the screen.

That doesnt sound to pleasing, might as well be like having bad off axis viewing with a led tv, hope when i put mine up I dont run into that problem... fingers crossed might have to wall mount mine if this happens.

Yes. This is it. The other one was a "discussion" thread that started by Cleveland Plasma just before the F8500 sets were available. Some of the discussions that took place in the first thread are off topic in this thread. For instance that might be posting that my non Samsung display is better than your F8500.

can someone point me I'm the right direction with a link for settings for the 64 my break in period is up today. I just plan on using the suggested settings, no meter or anything just copy and paste would like t.v. to be bright too if anyone had settings along those lines thanks in advance

I decided this morning to copy a post I made last night on the "F8500 Recommended Settings Thread" so that more owners will hopefully get a chance to read this. I woke up this morning, turned on my tv, and have no urge to want to max my cell light setting like I normally had it...it's too bright...lol

ECO, ECO, ECO, ECO.....OMG.....Well folks, I just made a huge discovery with my 51" 8500. I'm a little embarrased to even mention this, since I have owned my tv for about 2 months now. I have never calibrated a tv, and have never measured light output from any screen before. All this recent talk about the ECO setting/bug had me wondering why I seemed to need/crave more brightness on my picture....I kept hearing owners say that with a picture putting out 45 fL (i.e. Pie's cal) during night viewing, it can be a little bright....I was still cranking the cell light up higher with his cal.....it wasn't bright enough for me........In addition, I have seen many owners calibrating movie mode to an even lower 40 fL (seems to be a standard), and all this time I kept saying to myself, that's just crazy!! I could never watch my tv with an even lower light output. I do remember messing with my eco setting a while back, possibly during the time Floridaman posted an anomaly with that setting. I remember turning on the eco sensor, then setting min. cell light to 20, then turning off eco sensor. I thought everything was fine after that.....Well, that just wasn't the case. Tonight, after talking about the eco sensor in this thread, I decided to enter into that menu, and play with the setting. I turn on the eco sensor, then I reduced the min. Cell light from 20 to around 14....i saw no incremental reduction of screen brightness by lowering the setting down to 14 or so. Then I proceeded to turn off the eco sensor, and BAM!!! My screen immediately increased a measurable difference in brightness. I couldn't believe it! I then turned eco back on, increased the min. Cell light back to 20, then turned eco sensor back off, and saw no change to the previous brightness I just gained. It's so surreal! I don't have to crank my cell light to 20 now for night viewing...it's way too bright for my eyes....we'll see what happens during daytime viewing. What a revelation!!! All this time.....Argghhhh! Pie, your cal looks fine now on my screen...no off-tinting/subdued look like I was seeing before. I can see now what you're seeing!! I'm not sure how much brightness I gained, but I can tell you that with my current cell light at 16, it looks every bit as bright (if not brighter) than I was getting with cell 20 before the eco adjustment.

can someone point me I'm the right direction with a link for settings for the 64 my break in period is up today. I just plan on using the suggested settings, no meter or anything just copy and paste would like t.v. to be bright too if anyone had settings along those lines thanks in advance

Hey everyone, I'm here to tell you how superior the blacks are on my ZT60. What? This isn't the thread for that?... Thank goodness.

Don't know how I missed there being a true owner's thread now. Nice! My suggestion would be to leave the other thread alone so the trolls have a place to squabble outside of here. My worry is that if we merge or remove it, they will trickle in here and the downward spiral begins again.

Now on to owner business. I've read up, but still looking for any official verification: does 1104 have any measured negative (or positive) affects? I still haven't updated from 1103.

Hey everyone, I'm here to tell you how superior the blacks are on my ZT60. What? This isn't the thread for that?... Thank goodness.

Don't know how I missed there being a true owner's thread now. Nice! My suggestion would be to leave the other thread alone so the trolls have a place to squabble outside of here. My worry is that if we merge or remove it, they will trickle in here and the downward spiral begins again.

Now on to owner business. I've read up, but still looking for any official verification: does 1104 have any measured negative (or positive) affects? I still haven't updated from 1103.
negative that I can see: none

I'm very interested in this as well and would love to hear from an owner on this topic. I currently have an older gen Samsung plasma (58B550) and finally looking to upgrade but just want to confirm responsiveness is at least on par with my current set. Thanks!

can someone point me I'm the right direction with a link for settings for the 64 my break in period is up today. I just plan on using the suggested settings, no meter or anything just copy and paste would like t.v. to be bright too if anyone had settings along those lines thanks in advance

Now on to owner business. I've read up, but still looking for any official verification: does 1104 have any measured negative (or positive) affects? I still haven't updated from 1103.

I saw no measurable improvements after updating to 1104. Pie did a re-cal on his tv with 1104, and didn't have to change one parameter. What it did fix was the annoying camera popup window every time I turned on my tv.

1- Picture Off: I love this option, I use it a lot when I want to pause playing a movie, I pause and then just use the picture off option so I have no worry how long I keep it that way. Even though I have my Oppo's screen saver I think after a minute but I feel this is a much safer option to use.

2- Remote Control: I love how smooth and snappy the remote is but one thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't have the ability to create your own custom button. For example I would love to have a button for picture size directly on the remote without the need to go in the menu or press the tools button. I mean just one button I press to access the picture size. Same thing goes for other features like Picture off, Picture Mode etc.. I really wish Samsung would have enabled that or at least we could have the option to customize the four colored buttons on the remote. It would have made things way faster.

One question I have is about the TV's screen Saver. Mine is set to 5 minutes but I really don't know when it is initiated. When does the screen saver goes into effect? If I pause a DVD for 5 minutes will the TV's screen saver work? what if I leave the screen on a DVD menu? And what if the Bluray menu has a small movie which plays in loop? Will that be counted as a still image and triggers the TV's screen saver? Hope to hear some answers

1- Picture Off: I love this option, I use it a lot when I want to pause playing a movie, I pause and then just use the picture off option so I have no worry how long I keep it that way. Even though I have my Oppo's screen saver I think after a minute but I feel this is a much safer option to use.

This is great feature I use quite a bit. I've programed into a macro in my old MX-850 remote so it is accessible with a single button push.

At my 7 foot viewing distance my head is maybe 1/3 of the way up from the bottom and I see the effects of the filter on the top maybe 6-8 inches of the screen. Its not awful but it is noticeable and can be annoying when viewing certain content such as Skyfall which had many stark, bright scenes.