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So the K10 went from being slightly unbalanced to completely worthless trash.

What the fuck Visceral. I don't think they realize making end damage 8 made it so that the K10 now has a slower TTK than the MP5k except in a very small sliver of range, and completely outclassed by everything else at longer ranges and effectively cuts the 4SK range significantly, assuming they didn't tweak damage drop off at all.

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slightly unbalanced

Dude, you're worse than
@marbleduck
And his AKM.
Admittedly, the damage in CQC probably should have stayed the same, but even now it's slightly unbalanced negatively (except it actually is only slightly now)

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I mean, its TTK up close is now exactly the same as that of the mpx. But it has a higher rate of fire, making it slightly easier to use up close in comparison. While the MPX has a range advantage over the k10's new ease of use. It's a shame the two best PDW's are both cop-specific ones though...lol kill licenses
Same with the AKM: The 416 and AKM are ridiculously close to eachother, the AKM being a bit more closerange based than the 416. This differentiates them more and really let's the 416 shine at range.

I'm both disappointed, and honestly stunned, at how other things haven't changed though. I really expected a lot more changes based on the comments of the community

"I put aside a few sceptics, the types of decency in the history of philosophy: the rest haven't the slightest conception of intellectual integrity."Friedrich Nietzsche

The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night

@Sheepnub
Definitely agree about the license restrictions - the unfortunate thing about faction-locking [even temporarily] is that, in order to make the game balanced, you have to bring the guns from each faction to roughly equivalent usability, so it's actually an inelegant form of duplication. From there, it's whichever one has the minor edge that gets used and the other ignored. That's about half the content of this patch: reducing the diversity of the guns to bring some semblance of balance between the factions, though there are still, as you noted, exceptions to this rule.

As to the K10 nerf, it was absolutely necessary for the game's gun "ecosystem" [I guess that's a satisfactory word?] and realistically, as sheepnub pointed out, it isn't as bad as it sounds. If someone were previously going to waste bullets engaging at longer ranges, now they would just have to waste more, so it's really a subtle-like-a-bag-of-bricks attempt to train the playerbase not to do that.

All told, I think I'll give it a few more passes before I hand over my money to EA/Visceral.

in order to make the game balanced, you have to bring the guns from each faction to roughly equivalent usability

If referencing BF games then you are correct, all games you would be "wrong" since you can also balance around gamemodes for example [I should really play more games for more examples I;m sounding like a broken record] CS it has 1 gamemode and T have the better weapons because they are required to push, against defending CT.

Because they believe people like LevelCap and JackFrags are the "Battlefield Experts" worth consulting. I'm not even being sarcastic or joking. They actually called LevelCap, JackFrags, and the other people they bring in "experts."

I bet my money on that it's not actually devs who make the decision to consult these guys, it's the marketing team because with having popular BF youtubers "in their lines" is so much free advertisment.

Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:

3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)

Because they believe people like LevelCap and JackFrags are the "Battlefield Experts" worth consulting. I'm not even being sarcastic or joking. They actually called LevelCap, JackFrags, and the other people they bring in "experts."

Probably has something to do with Bajur's insights being closely linked to ours.
Jackfrags, I don't know. Can't stand the guy's videos most of the time. I think it's his voice.

But honestly, I think even mentioning Levelcap should be a rule violation. Almost invariably, everyone involved in discussions temporarily loses a few IQ points whenever he's mentioned.

@Miffyli
I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it was in fact the real devs who decided to consult youtubers. I can personally assure you that working for a game development company does necessarily not mean you have a solid head on your shoulders, just that you know how to do something they need done.

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<cloon> women are allowed to play hockey?
<daddygreeenjeans> body checks are a fundamental part of women's suffrage

<Riesig> "... I'M GAY..."

steamboat28: the doctors at the ER found my nipples, too!
steamboat28: it just..y'know...took them a razor and two orderlies.

<Legion> And damn, now I really want some [redacted] penetrator measurements

<Rezal> peipin, why did you tell them you brought your phone?
<Pepin_the_Short> Because thereÂs like a one in five chance of getting searched on the way out
<Pepin_the_Short> And trying to sneak the fucker out is way worse than letting them look at CloonÂs dick pics.

17:52:08 <Rezal> Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA.
17:52:15 <ToTheSun> lolgema
17:52:15 <TheMightyVoice> lolgema

<Legion> But I literally am Hitler right now

Somehow my bullets are magnetically attracted to popular Youtubers, but theirs rarely seem to hit me.