I am also disputing the private rate because that's not what the majority of the market pays. Can you get $1k+ an hour? Of course, but can everyone get that and is that what all privates are willing to pay? Definitely no. Can everyone be CEO of a company and earn millions per year? It would be nice if we could.

I mentioned this above and what most people neglect to state are the kind of hours, work and travel required to get such high rates. Many people are only doing a few hours a week at that rate, so they can't live entirely off of it. Also, they may be required to do a lot of preparation work which brings down the hourly rate. You also often find that these high paying gigs are short-term. Finally, some people neglect to mention the amount of travelling they do just for that one or two hours.

Again, I said this in a post above and what people are forgetting is the DETAILS. The point of this OP was for "starting" and "average" salaries. The cram school rates are fine, but good luck with the university and private rate. Of course it is doable, but I am talking about "averages" here, which was the entire point of the thread.

1000 - 1200 is the average I have experienced AND witnessed over the past 2 years ( I've been here 9 ). Knowing that every cram, bushiban, language center is getting far higher than that. If you're whoring yourself out for 600-800/hr that's your business.

FYI, I'm not teaching CEO's in re: last post but salesman, secretaries and even a husband / wife team. This is the rate in Taipei.

It most definitely isn't. It can be earnt, but you make it sound like it's the norm. What are you teaching anyway? It must be something highly specialized otherwise you wouldn't be getting it. Taiwanese are careful how they spend their money and most would think those prices absurd for an English lesson. And anyway there are a million crappy buxibans where they can top up their English for a reasonable sum.

Well, again - if you believe yourself worth 6-800/hr. that is your business and I have nothing to offer. However, if you tell a student $1000/hr than I will say that I have never gotten refused at that rate.

Specialized English? Kidding me? I don't even prep the lesson - get it from breakingnewsenglish.com. It's strictly conversation, business and an occasional TOEFL twink.

If you're in Taipei, ask your next NEW private student for $1000/hr - I assure you, you'll get it.

Not combative, but interested in "reality" and the facts. You continue to post here, along with your alter ego, Atreyue, much misinformation. Please, I beg you, guide me to the best ESL sites where I can find private gigs for $NT1.200 per hour or NT$70K+ a month in Taiwan. Now that really would be a find, wouldn't it?

Much misinformation? The only one who seems to be misinformed is in fact, you. There is a plethora of $70k a month jobs and $1000/hr privates. Did you really need us to hold your little hand and guide you around or do you want to put on your big girl panties and do it yourself?

BTW, love that post about EF ranking on English abilities you posted. Really - EF as a reliable source? Wow - you are deluded.

BTW, love that post about EF ranking on English abilities you posted. Really - EF as a reliable source? Wow - you are deluded.

Yeah, sorry about that. Will the Taipei Times do?

Taiwan came in next to last among 14 Asian countries in an international English language test last year, British Council statistics showed yesterday.
Taiwanese examinees scored an average of 5.66 on the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) nine-band scale, falling between the scores for modest users and competent users of English.
Taiwan was only able to edge out China by a small margin, with China scoring an average of 5.46.

Seems that the poor old Taiwanese are being scammed by these apparent hot shot teachers that remain in Taiwan working for $NT1200 per hour. The teachers are taking the money alright but are definitely unable to get results. 5.66 is below 'competency' on the IELTS scale. My guess is that you're spreading a lot of misinformation and the truth is that all the best teachers left years ago in search of greener pastures leaving the dregs behind to help guide the Taiwanese to a measly 5.66. But hey let's not
mock this result. It was higher than Nepal's.

LOL - the Taipei Times? That's about half a step below the National Enquirer. Listen, Romany, since you're so thoughtful in pointing out the shortfalls and deficiencies in the Taiwanese learning curve did you ever consider, that you're part of the problem?

LOL - the Taipei Times? That's about half a step below the National Enquirer. Listen, Romany, since you're so thoughtful in pointing out the shortfalls and deficiencies in the Taiwanese learning curve did you ever consider, that you're part of the problem?

Or, are you not in Taiwan hero?

Yes, but the source was the official IELTS website. Sorry, I can't do any better than that, except point you to the official TOEFL website where you'll find the same dismal results for Taiwan.

Taiwan hero? There's an oxymoron if ever there was one. It reminds me of that old chestnut, Taiwanese culture.