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View Poll Results: Ron Artest on the Team, yea or nay... Trade him for Peja, yea or nay

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

when u make ur selections u can vote for more than one ....since its basically a two part poll...i wanted to allow u to pick 2 selections...one regarding whether ron is on the team and whether u would be in favor of trading him for peja....

and yes...i suppose a moron would vote for all 5....but then, what good would that do....

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

People here talk about how Ron couldnt handle the pressure of the playoffs but if Peja cant its alright cause JO is still in the post? LMAO

No, you missed my point.

Peja doesn't play well/ chokes in the playoffs. That's a problem but he wouldn't be the #1 option here, JO would be. It would be a lot easier for him to hit shots when the defense is focused on somebody else. (Just ask Ron how easy it was to hit shots in the Miami series when they focused all thier efforts on shutting down JO.)

Ron can't handle the pressure of the playoffs and he has personal and emotional meltdowns that drag the rest of the team down with him.

I'm LMAO if you'd either (1) rather have Ron drag the rest of the team down, or (2) still don't see the difference.

I'll take my chances that Peja could figure out how to score as the #2 option in the playoffs before I'd take my chances that Ron can figure out how to quit dragging his teammates down with him.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

Ron's trade value is just as low, if not lower, then it was last summer. That doesn't explain the (assumed) increase in votes for him in our poll...

Ron's become a "martyr".

And this board has always been quite supportive of Ron, anyway. Last summer, the only people that wanted Ron traded were probably me and Peck, although I might be forgetting one or two others.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

And this board has always been quite supportive of Ron, anyway. Last summer, the only people that wanted Ron traded were probably me and Peck, although I might be forgetting one or two others.

I wanted him traded then.... Because I thought we could get something good in return and I worried about his ability to keep his head.

But that was before I watched this team for a season without Artest- and with JO as the entire focal point... and then got to see the team without JO.... And I realized any trade of Artest wasn't likely going to bring anyone in to change what we saw with a JO led team.

Now I just want a backup plan in place for him (unless a good trade presents itself) and I am willing to take my chances with Artest (maybe I should say I've resigned myself to that being the only practical option).

I'm assuming trading all 15 players (or whatever size roster the new CBA will allow) isn't really a practical option tho there's been points where I would have considered it.

-Bball

Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.

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"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

-snip- I'm assuming trading all 15 players (or whatever size roster the new CBA will allow) isn't really a practical option tho there's been points where I would have considered it.

-Bball

I always *knew* you were the smartest poster on here.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

Wow, should have heard Scott H's take on Ron at the party. So when did you and Scott become separated at birth?

You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

Wow, should have heard Scott H's take on Ron at the party. So when did you and Scott become separated at birth?

About the time that he "wisened up" and did his 180-degree-turn.

Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

Re: Artest, Yea or Nay...Trade for Peja, Yea or Nay...VOTE TWICE

Basically this is the second time I've heard the term "martyr" used in reference to Ron Artest in the last few days. Scott said pretty much the same thing at the party.

You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....