From jmcadams Sun Jun 23 19:39:07 PDT 1996
Article: 1254 of alt.conspiracy.jfk.moderated
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From: jmcadams@netcom.com (John Mcadams)
Subject: Oswald shot Walker - 2
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In article lpease@netcom.com (Lisa Pease) writes:
>jackwhite (jwjfk@flash.net) wrote:
>: > Question - How did Oswald get to Walker's house with his rifle without
>: > being seen .
>
>: WHOEVER shot at Walker apparently arrived and left by car. It was not
>: Oswald. It even may have had NO connection to the assassination.
>
>And the only witness saw TWO people leave in a hurry.
>
>
Let's look at that witnesses account:
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Warren Commission Exhibit No. 2958, an FBI report taken 6/3/64 by Special
Agents Robert Barrett and Ivan Lee. File # DL 100-10461:
WALTER KIRK COLEMAN, 4338 Newton Street, Dallas, Texas, age 15, furnished
the following information:
On April 10, 1963, sometime between 9:00 and 10:00 PM, COLEMAN, along with
his godfather, RONALD ANDRIES, were building some shelves in COLEMAN's
bedroom. At the time, COLEMAN was standing in the doorway which leads from
his bedroom to the outside of the house on the north side of his
residence. COLEMAN heard a blast and his first impression was that it was
a car backfire. COLEMAN ran immediately to the fence which separates the
property where he resides and that of the Mormon Church Parking Lot.
COLEMAN stepped up on a bicycle, which was leaning against the fence, and
which put him in a position to look into the Mormon Church Parking Lot and
the back of the church property.
Upon looking into this parking lot, COLEMAN observed two men, herinafter
referred to as No. 1 and No. 2. No.1 was at the back of a white or beige
1950 Ford and was hurrying towards the driver's side of this car. COLEMAN
observed no other person in the car. The car was parked headed towards
Turtle Creek Boulevard (or away from COLEMAN) with the motor running and
the headlights on. No. 2 was about ten yards behind No. 1 at a point about
twenty-five feet inside the church property, or parking lot, from the
alley entrance to this parking lot. No. 1 was almost directly in front of
COLEMAN and No. 2 was to COLEMAN's right. No. 2 was walking in a direction
away from the alley entrance and towards a 1958 black and white two-door
Chevrolet sedan. This Chevrolet was parked in the second parking slot to
the east of the alley entrance headed in towards a fence which separates
the church property and that of General EDWIN A. WALKER. A Renault
automobile belonging to the church caretaker was parked in the first
parking slot.
COLEMAN stated his immediate attention was directed toward No. 1. No. 1
got into the 1950 Ford and, as he did so, glanced back in the direction
of COLEMAN. This man got into the car and drove off at a normal rate of
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speed towards the exit from the church parking lot onto Turtle Creek
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Boulevard. COLEMAN stated he did not notice if No. 1 was carrying
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anything in his hands. He stated No. 1 was wearing khaki pants, a sport
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shirt with figures in it, and was a white male, about 19 or 20 years of
age, about 5'10" tall, and weighing about 130 pounds. He stated this man
had dark, bushy hair, a thin face with a large nose, and was "real skinny."
COLEMAN stated he was able to observe this even though it was nighttime,
as the church has a floodlight which was on at the time, and which lights
up the parking lot.
COLEMAN then looked back towards No. 2 and observed that he was, by this
time, at the driver's side of the Chevrolet. He had the door open and the
front seat pushed forward. He was leaning through the car door and into
the back seat area of this car. COLEMAN then returned to his residence
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and did not observe how or when No. 2 left the parking lot. About an hour
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later, while being questioned by a police officer, COLEMAN noticed that
the Chevrolet was gone, as were all other cars that had been in the
parking lot when he first observed the two men, with the exception of the
caretaker's Renault. COLEMAN advisded that, when he first observed these
two men along with the 1950 Ford and the 1958 Chevrolet, there were
about six other cars parked in the parking lot.
COLEMAN described No.2 as a white male, about 6'1", about 200 pounds,
wearing a dark, long-sleeve shirt, and dark pants. COLEMAN advised he
never saw No.2's face and could not furnish any information as to his
age. He also stated he did not recall anything about No. 2's hair. He
advised that when he first observed No. 2 he did not notice if he was
carrying anything, although this was possible, as his attention was
mainly directed towards No. 1 at that time.
COLEMAN advised he had never seen either man or either car at any time
before or after this incident.
COLEMAN stated he has seen numerous photographs of LEE HARVEY OSWALD and
he was shown a photograph of OSWALD among several other photographs. He
stated that neither man resembled OSWALD and that he had never seen
anyone in or around the WALKER residence or the church before or after
April 10, 1963, who resembled LEE HARVEY OSWALD.
COLEMAN explained that, from where he was standing looking over the fence,
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he could not see down the alley behind WALKER's residence, as there is a
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stockade fence around some garbage cans in the southwest corner of the
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church parking lot, and this blocked his view down the alley.
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So, we have two men in a church parking lot. Neither is fleeing, and
neither is doing anything suspicious.
And the witness could not have *seen* Oswald (or anyone else) in the
alley.
.John