Before you read any further, you need to know a few things about me:
1) I have never served in the military, nor have I ever been a police officer.
2) I do not play in or work for the NFL, and my fantasy skills are mediocre at best.
3) I am white.

Disclaimers have been disclaimed. It’s time to talk about flags, knees, and hypocrisy.

When Colin Kaepernick started his protest against racial discrimination in policing, I thought it was a dumb move. Not because I don’t agree with Kaepernick’s reasons it because I hold the anthem or flag as sacrosanct. I felt that it was dumb because it was a thumb in the eye of half the country. I get that protests are partially about making the people in power uncomfortable and even angry, but I think this does that with out doing the other thing that good protests should do: prompt change.

But that’s a whole other issue. What’s at issue now is what the anthem and the flag mean to us as US citizens and Christians. So let’s start at the beginning of both.

The Flag & The Anthem

Put aside your myths about Betsy Ross—it might be true, but we’re not sure. The source of the flag, as far as Congress is concerned, was the Flag Act of 1777, which not only determined the design of the flag but also the meaning.

Resolved, That the flag of the thirteen United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation.

I want to unpack what that says about the flag itself, but let’s pit a flag pin in it and turn our focus to the number one song-about-a-flag: “The Star Spangled Banner.”

Our National Anthem was written in 1814, during a battle of the War of 1812. Originally, a poem, the author, Francis Scott Key, wrote while aboard a British ship, while the British were bombarding Fort McHenry as part of the Battle of Baltimore. The lyrics of the song truly communicate an incredible sight: at dawn, after a day of bombardment, Key was relieved to see that the flag of the United States still hung over the fort, proclaiming victory in the face of certain defeat. Throughout the night, Key had only been able to catch glimpses of the flag—when it was illuminated by the rockets hurled at it by the British. The story is truly dramatic and knowing it makes the song that much more powerful.

So, we have a flag and a song about that flag, but so what? What does it all mean? What does it stand for?

The flag is easy. It stands for the union of states, this new constellation on the horizon of human achievement. It stands for the states and the people who fill them. It stands for us.

The anthem, in turn, stands for the flag. It is a testimony to the strength and power and determination of this people who have united, under the Constitution, against all foes.

So, when someone kneels during the anthem, they aren’t disrespecting veterans. The anthem isn’t about them. The flag doesn’t stand for the armed forces: they stand for it, for us.

Neither the flag nor the anthem belong more to veterans than to any other civilian. And thinking that they do leads us to the heart of the problem.

The Disease of Militaristic Nationalism

Oh, justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A
‘Cause we’ll put a boot in your ass
It’s the American way

That’s a verse from Toby Keith’s “Courtesy Of The Red, White, And Blue (The Angry American)”–not one of my favorite songs.

This song was chosen to play behind a montage of photos of servicemen and servicewomen that was shown on the Fourth of July.

At church.

Did you catch that swear word? Oh, man. Most of us did. But what most folks didn’t catch was how the song was basically one long death threat against the Middle East. I get that the song is a response to the terror attacks of 9/11, but church is not a place for political statements, let alone a celebratory, braggadocios announcement about the proctological placement of ones boot.

And yet, someone though it was totally appropriate.

This and the aforementioned issue of assuming that the flag stands for veterans over civilians is symptomatic of a dangerous disease: militaristic nationalism. I’ll explain each part separately.

Militarism is a glorification and over reliance upon the military. Prussia, the German state around which other German states united to form the nation-state of Germany, was a heavily militaristic state. One of their government ministers assessed their level of militarism as such: “Prussia is not a state with an army, but an arm with a state.” That is militarism run amok. In fact, it borders on totalitarianism, which is a form of government wherein the citizens exist to serve the state, or, in Prussia’s case, the army.

Nationalism is different. It’s an overwhelmingly intense pride in one’s nationality or nation-state. This was a huge factor in the run-up to World War I. And World War II. It’s a great way to start a war, honestly. Nationalists believe that their group is the best group. Other groups need to recognize that and get out of the way. The nationalists have no problem, morally, with attacking another nation unprovoked. Their greatness justifies their actions.

This is the ugly side of American Exceptionalism, the ideology that states that the US holds a unique position in world history. While I agree that the US has been incredibly blessed and has done much good for the world, nothing about us makes it ok for us to be the sole arbiter of justice in the world. God is the judge. He alone is King. No one but Jesus deserves the immediate unquestioned deference that many claim belongs to the anthem and the flag.

Therefore God exalted [Jesus] to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:9-11

It may not have been a “national” anthem, but the three Hebrews refused to bow down when they heard the music and saw the representative image of their sovereign (i.e. a huge idol). It may not have been a flag, but Jesus rejected the idea that the government has any right of ownership over our hearts when he told the Pharisees to give to Caesar only that which belongs to him, reserving for God the worship that only He is due.

As a citizen of the US, you may feel like we live in the greatest nation on the Earth. If so, why? What makes us so great? Is it our freedom of speech, thought/faith, press, and assembly? Then, embrace that by letting your countrymen protest and listening to their petition in good faith. As a Christian, do you recognize that Jesus, not Caesar, is to be your only Lord?

What is “covfefe”? No one knows, except for a very small group. Either way, CS Lewis knows a lot about why we don’t have a Christian society, and Kevon and Phil would like to discuss this with you. You can read the quoted portions of Mere Christianity in the blog section of our site.

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People say, ‘The Church ought to give us a lead.’ That is true if they mean it in the right way, but false if they mean it in the wrong way. By the Church they ought to mean the whole body of practising Christians. And when they say that the Church should give us a lead, they ought to mean that some Christians—those who happen to have the right talents—should be economists and statesmen, and that all economists and statesmen should be Christians, and that their whole efforts in politics and economics should be directed to putting ‘Do as you would be done by’ into action. If that happened, and if we others were really ready to take it, then we should find the Christian solution for our own social problems pretty quickly. But, of course, when they ask for a lead from the Church most people mean they want the clergy to put out a political programme. That is silly. The clergy are those particular people within the whole Church who have been specially trained and set aside to look after what concerns us as creatures who are going to live for ever: and we are asking them to do a quite different job for which they have not been trained. The job is really on us, on the laymen. The application of Christian principles, say, to trade unionism or education, must come from Christian trade unionists and Christian schoolmasters: just as Christian literature comes from Christian novelists and dramatists—not from the bench of bishops getting together and trying to write plays and novels in their spare time….

If there were such a society in existence and you or I visited it, I think we should come away with a curious impression. We should feel that its economic life was very socialistic and, in that sense, ‘advanced’, but that its family life and its code of manners were rather old fashioned—perhaps even ceremonious and aristocratic. Each of us would like some bits of it, but I am afraid very few of us would like the whole thing. That is just what one would expect if Christianity is the total plan for the human machine. We have all departed from that total plan in different ways, and each of us wants to make out that his own modification of the original plan is the plan itself. You will find this again and again about anything that is really Christian: every one is attracted by bits of it and wants to pick out those bits and leave the rest….

Most of us are not really approaching the subject in order to find out what Christianity says: we are approaching it in the hope of finding support from Christianity for the views of our own party. We are looking for an ally where we are offered either a Master or—a Judge….A Christian society is not going to arrive until most of us really want it: and we are not going to want it until we become fully Christian.

The boys have come down with a severe case of too much politics. But don’t worry! They’ll be back next week to breakdown this broken election. For now, you’ll just have to listen to Phil’s final session of class on “How Should Christians Vote?”—we hope you enjoy!

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Phil and Kevon are so sorry that they have been gone for so long. They will be back in the studio soon. Until they do, here’s some audio from a class Phil taught at his church. The class was based upon Tony Evan’s book How Should Christians Votes?, which we’ve mentioned several times before.

We hope you enjoy this “substitute” episode and will help us by spreading the word as The Ignorance of Church and State gears up for Season 2.

We’re also sorry about the audio from this episode. There was an error with the microphone. It was a user error. Phil was the user.

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