AliceBToklasLives:Ok, we can quote the Old Testament and ignore the fact that it is trumped by the New. And the New is clear: a 'Biblical marriage' is nearly a contradiction in terms, as Paul clearly says (I Corinthians 7...) marriage is only for folks who just can't control themselves. It is certainly not something a Christian should be promoting.

Well, given the level of self-control I've seen here on Fark, I'd say Paul had the right idea.

TechieZero:Who cares? Its his biz...he has a right to say anything he wants. Free speech is free. Tired of seeing this story. All it does is make this guy sell more chicken, if thats what you want Subby, more power to ya.

Cathy can say whatever dipshiat thing he wants, and we can say whatever we want about what he says. The problem people had was Cathy donating money to known hate groups that actively try to prevent gay people from enjoying the same rights everyone else does.

Keizer_Ghidorah:TechieZero: Who cares? Its his biz...he has a right to say anything he wants. Free speech is free. Tired of seeing this story. All it does is make this guy sell more chicken, if thats what you want Subby, more power to ya.

Cathy can say whatever dipshiat thing he wants, and we can say whatever we want about what he says. The problem people had was Cathy donating money to known hate groups that actively try to prevent gay people from enjoying the same rights everyone else does.

Has that ever been substantiated? The claim that the money went to groups that actively try to disenfranchise homosexuals?

I know the groups aren't pro gay rights, but are they really lobbying against them?

Really? People are making generalizations claiming it is "Christian" to support incest and polygamy, and sexual slavery--and you feel I'm "over-sensitive" to take offense?

GFY

When it's right there in the Bible, don't get upset when people point it out.

Pretty much. It's also important to remember that many Christians are in fact pro-gay-marriage. These are the ones whose take-home message from their church is about love, acceptance and being neighbourly. It's the Christians who insist Jesus' central point was "all those arse-bandits should be nailed to a tree" that I have a problem with.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Keizer_Ghidorah: TechieZero: Who cares? Its his biz...he has a right to say anything he wants. Free speech is free. Tired of seeing this story. All it does is make this guy sell more chicken, if thats what you want Subby, more power to ya.

Cathy can say whatever dipshiat thing he wants, and we can say whatever we want about what he says. The problem people had was Cathy donating money to known hate groups that actively try to prevent gay people from enjoying the same rights everyone else does.

Has that ever been substantiated? The claim that the money went to groups that actively try to disenfranchise homosexuals?

I know the groups aren't pro gay rights, but are they really lobbying against them?

Yep.

I know it's wikipedia, but this article seems very well referenced : Link

Really? People are making generalizations claiming it is "Christian" to support incest and polygamy, and sexual slavery--and you feel I'm "over-sensitive" to take offense?

GFY

When it's right there in the Bible, don't get upset when people point it out.

Pretty much. It's also important to remember that many Christians are in fact pro-gay-marriage. These are the ones whose take-home message from their church is about love, acceptance and being neighbourly. It's the Christians who insist Jesus' central point was "all those arse-bandits should be nailed to a tree" that I have a problem with.

Unfortunately, it's the latter ones who are the loudest ones of the group, and the ones in positions of power. The ones who are good and kind also don't seem to be doing a lot to quell their retarded brethren.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Keizer_Ghidorah: TechieZero: Who cares? Its his biz...he has a right to say anything he wants. Free speech is free. Tired of seeing this story. All it does is make this guy sell more chicken, if thats what you want Subby, more power to ya.

Cathy can say whatever dipshiat thing he wants, and we can say whatever we want about what he says. The problem people had was Cathy donating money to known hate groups that actively try to prevent gay people from enjoying the same rights everyone else does.

Has that ever been substantiated? The claim that the money went to groups that actively try to disenfranchise homosexuals?

I know the groups aren't pro gay rights, but are they really lobbying against them?

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Keizer_Ghidorah: TechieZero: Who cares? Its his biz...he has a right to say anything he wants. Free speech is free. Tired of seeing this story. All it does is make this guy sell more chicken, if thats what you want Subby, more power to ya.

Cathy can say whatever dipshiat thing he wants, and we can say whatever we want about what he says. The problem people had was Cathy donating money to known hate groups that actively try to prevent gay people from enjoying the same rights everyone else does.

Has that ever been substantiated? The claim that the money went to groups that actively try to disenfranchise homosexuals?

I know the groups aren't pro gay rights, but are they really lobbying against them?

I'd search and link if I wasn't posting from my Wii (computer died, blech, I can't do either on here), but I doubt he would be donating to them if they weren't.

Really? People are making generalizations claiming it is "Christian" to support incest and polygamy, and sexual slavery--and you feel I'm "over-sensitive" to take offense?

GFY

When it's right there in the Bible, don't get upset when people point it out.

Pretty much. It's also important to remember that many Christians are in fact pro-gay-marriage. These are the ones whose take-home message from their church is about love, acceptance and being neighbourly. It's the Christians who insist Jesus' central point was "all those arse-bandits should be nailed to a tree" that I have a problem with.

Unfortunately, it's the latter ones who are the loudest ones of the group, and the ones in positions of power. The ones who are good and kind also don't seem to be doing a lot to quell their retarded brethren.

Can't quell full-retard. Same goes for Muslims too. A billion muslims didn't get involved with the protests recently, but we don't hear much about that in the media.

BATMANATEE:Mr. Chicken has the right to his opinion, free speech and and all that. Using corporate profits to fund "beat the gay out of them" organizations isn't speech. It's been a decade or so since I read the Bible cover to cover (skimmed the begats) but I remember "judge not lest you be judged" being pretty important. I also remember a bit (one of Paul"s letters) being pretty explicit about the fact that persecuting sinners was unchristian and a sin. I remember this letter saying that persecution was a sin unless the perpetrators were supposed christians twisting the scriptures to fit their own unchristian ends. It seems that persecuting Mr. Chicken is the christian thing to do, according to the Bible, for anyone who has ever read it.

You're mixing your Testaments. The whole "judge not" stuff is the new-age stuff. The rapey/stabby stuff is the original version.

MemeSlave:BATMANATEE: Mr. Chicken has the right to his opinion, free speech and and all that. Using corporate profits to fund "beat the gay out of them" organizations isn't speech. It's been a decade or so since I read the Bible cover to cover (skimmed the begats) but I remember "judge not lest you be judged" being pretty important. I also remember a bit (one of Paul"s letters) being pretty explicit about the fact that persecuting sinners was unchristian and a sin. I remember this letter saying that persecution was a sin unless the perpetrators were supposed christians twisting the scriptures to fit their own unchristian ends. It seems that persecuting Mr. Chicken is the christian thing to do, according to the Bible, for anyone who has ever read it.

You're mixing your Testaments. The whole "judge not" stuff is the new-age stuff. The rapey/stabby stuff is the original version.

These people are much better Jews than they are Christians.

Of course there are is a minority of full-retard Jews in Israel who are horrific to women and are extremely intolerant violent idiots, but this seems much rarer among western Jews than among western Christians and western Muslims.

/possible conclusion is that religions can be pretty farked up at about 1500 years of age, somewhat improved by 2000 years of age and seem to have shown considerable further improvement by what, about 6000 years?

Plenty of us do, but you don't hear much about the Christians who don't spend every waking hour obsessing over gay marriage. Some of us are even support it. You don't hear about the Christians who aren't giant attention whores because they're too busy actually following the teachings of Jesus: not being a dick to others, not making a spectacle of your faith, that sort of thing. So yes, there are plenty out there, they just don't get press because they don't get ratings.

If you were as common as you say you were, these issues wouldn't be defeated on ballots regularly. Though the fact that we even have to vote on "Do homosexuals deserve the same civil rights as everyone else?" is mind boggling, and shouldn't even be a thing.

AliceBToklasLives:Ok, we can quote the Old Testament and ignore the fact that it is trumped by the New. And the New is clear: a 'Biblical marriage' is nearly a contradiction in terms, as Paul clearly says (I Corinthians 7...) marriage is only for folks who just can't control themselves. It is certainly not something a Christian should be promoting.

And yet Jesus said otherwise. If we're going to talk about one part of the Bible trumping another part, then perhaps Jesus > Paul > Old Testament

I drunk what:just for the record, i refer to followers of Christ as "Christians", when i'm not sure and for the sake of argument i'll use the lower case c, and for the ones that claim to be but aren't fooling IDW, as "xians"

Hey, everybody, I drunk what is the authority on who is and isn't a Christian! Think we ought to let the pope know?

highendmighty:KrispyKritter: What a bunch of typical online hypocrites. You allow your tax dollars to be used to kill brown people overseas, imprison people unfairly in your home land for laws you deem unjust and provide paychecks for political leaders that sell out your country for their personal gain. You do nothing about this. A man who speaks his mind based on his personal religious beliefs? Off with his head! Off with all their heads, for their holy book is outdated and not to your liking! Wankers, the lot of you. Godless wankers. You deserve the low quality fast food fare that KFC delivers.

THIS - is a proper shaming of alot of you posting here. Well said!

I can think of at least two people posting here who ought to feel shame, yes.

Did the interviewer ask "What do you consider to be a Biblical Family" followed shortly by "How do you back that up?" and see if he can give a straight (no pun intended) answer if he even does answer instead of dodging the question.

Also, why is it that here lately, when I view a Yahoo News page, there is no scroll bar and the page doesn't respond to the Page Down/Up or arrow keys? The only way I can get it to scroll is left click/drag to highlight.

Jon iz teh kewl:MrHappyRotter: Too much emphasis is focused on gay people and whether or not they should be able to have legally recognized marriages while too little attention is given to men who have to choose only a single woman to marry knowing full well that biatch is going to get fat, old and ugly far too early in life to make it unreasonable to expect to be able to marry some other broad at the same time.weed legalization

Aussie_As:Can't quell full-retard. Same goes for Muslims too. A billion muslims didn't get involved with the protests recently, but we don't hear much about that in the media.

A billion farkers didn't get involved with the anti-christian circle jerk in this thread, but they didn't do anything to stop it either, so apparently they are ok with it, since they won't hesitate to stop by and give a bunch of pats on the back, high fives for teh lulz, but we can't blame them for actually being anti-christian... cuz they're just following orders

Aussie_As: Can't quell full-retard. Same goes for Muslims too. A billion muslims didn't get involved with the protests recently, but we don't hear much about that in the media.

A billion farkers didn't get involved with the anti-christian circle jerk in this thread, but they didn't do anything to stop it either, so apparently they are ok with it, since they won't hesitate to stop by and give a bunch of pats on the back, high fives for teh lulz, but we can't blame them for actually being anti-christian... cuz they're just following orders

Aussie_As: It's also important to remember that many xians are in fact pro-gay-marriage.

FTFY

you can fool some of the people all of the time, this is fark

/like shootin' fish in a barrel

I'm not sure I'm getting you, but if I understand your previous references to xians in this thread you're either accusing me of claiming to be Christian (I'm a former moderate Christian, now avowed atheist who normally takes the opportunity to bash all religions but for whatever reason I'm having a really mellow day) or you're suggesting no real Christians can be pro gay marriage, in which case you're very wrong even though you're statistically well on the money as far as the majority goes. Or you're just having a go at me in which case I'm being oversensitive and have a nice day.

30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children-as is the custom all over the earth.32 Let's get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father."33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I slept with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father."35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.36 So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father.37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today.38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

This, by the way, is about five minutes after God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for teh buttsex.

Actually, it was because they were having sex with angels and God didn't want any more half-breeds running around so he smote them. Buttsex is not referenced at all in the original text.