Now those are some farking leaches on society. Laws of England are lacking some farking common sense. You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Every time people complain about the lazy poor in America and socialism, they need to read about shiat like this. They are given a home and living money just for being citizens-for life!

England much like many European nations is generous with incentives to mothers because their birthrate is so low. This is better than importing immigrants that will live off the dole anyways but not assimilate into society as easily.

frozenhotchocolate:England much like many European nations is generous with incentives to mothers because their birthrate is so low. This is better than importing immigrants that will live off the dole anyways but not assimilate into society as easily.

AdolfOliverPanties:You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Honest question - how do they stop it? Force abortions on women who get pregnant after 3 kids? Just stop giving them money, so that the kids end up suffering? There's no good answer to the problem that doesn't end up hurting the children more than the parents. And the kids are innocent.

There was a family in our neighborhood that had twelve kids, a couple of which were close to me in age; the smell of urine never left their home. So, I hate kids. Well, just the little ones. Once they stop pissing all over themselves and become human I can tolerate them. If I must. . . .

You know, I am all for a hand up and a hand out, and don't see the benefit in punishing children for the poor choices of their egg/sperm donors. But at some point, enough is enough. Women like this need mandatory Norplant or a complete cutoff of benefits. If she loves being pregnant so much, she could make a tidy living as a surrogate, no?

AdolfOliverPanties:Now those are some farking leaches on society. Laws of England are lacking some farking common sense. You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Then comes the argument that society is punishing the additional children for being born poor....

A better way would be rewarding welfare recipients for not having additional children. The parents might not be that intelligent but they'll respond favorably to financial incentives. I recall reading that Singapore provides higher quality subsidized housing to families on public assistance that stop at 2 kids.

But a similar policy in America would lead to Republicans outrage about the government encouraging abortions.

in case anyone has ever noticed : Daily Mail seems to have to run a story almost every day about those dirty dirty welfare cheats ruining Britain. bonus points if they can make it about those dirty horrible immigrants ruining also ruining Britain. if they can make it about immigrant gypsies cheating welfare the editors at Daily Mail basically go catatonic from joy. read an article the other day : someone went around surveying people on benefits in England & most of them were convinced everyone else on benefits were cheating to get it, unlike them.

always wonder how much they pay people to publically announce in their paper that they are scamming the system. is it true? or do they just find the most mentally deficient because any good cheat is going to keep their damned mouth shut?

Bhruic:AdolfOliverPanties: You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Honest question - how do they stop it? Force abortions on women who get pregnant after 3 kids? Just stop giving them money, so that the kids end up suffering? There's no good answer to the problem that doesn't end up hurting the children more than the parents. And the kids are innocent.

Forced sterilization if you are on handouts for all three.

I'm all in favor of everyone deserving to have one child even in less than favorable financial circumstances. Heck, I'd like one myself before I run out of good eggs, but it costs a fortune for a fertility clinic here, and I'm not in a relationship, don't want to play "baby roulette" with random people.Not to mention I have to work.So I probably don't get to have one. So needless to say, stuff like this infuriates me. I definitely think some people should be sterilized particularly if they keep having kids others have to pay for.

Bhruic:AdolfOliverPanties: You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Honest question - how do they stop it? Force abortions on women who get pregnant after 3 kids? Just stop giving them money, so that the kids end up suffering? There's no good answer to the problem that doesn't end up hurting the children more than the parents. And the kids are innocent.

Cut off benefits if she has more children, and if she keeps doing it, take them all away, because she is clearly not capable of being a responsible parent.

/zero sympathy for people who won't even try to live within their means

AdolfOliverPanties:Every time people complain about the lazy poor in America and socialism, they need to read about shiat like this. They are given a home and living money just for being citizens-for life!

...and they still biatch about it.

also the Daily Mail likes to make this kind of shiat up. Without having read the article I'd say there's a pretty good chance that the mother in question is a racial minority.

TheBigJerk:frozenhotchocolate: England much like many European nations is generous with incentives to mothers because their birthrate is so low. This is better than importing immigrants that will live off the dole anyways but not assimilate into society as easily.

The Snow Dog:So a dude can have sex with a retarded woman and NOT have it be rape? Gross. How is this not illegal?

a friend of mine was an orderly as a hospital where one patient was a woman who has fairly profound brain damage from a traffic accident. her psycho husband was discovered to be having sex with her when he visited, leaving the mess for the nurses to clean up. they reported him, not sure whether he was ever charged.

Clock Spider Jerusalem:The Snow Dog: So a dude can have sex with a retarded woman and NOT have it be rape? Gross. How is this not illegal?

a friend of mine was an orderly as a hospital where one patient was a woman who has fairly profound brain damage from a traffic accident. her psycho husband was discovered to be having sex with her when he visited, leaving the mess for the nurses to clean up. they reported him, not sure whether he was ever charged.

Shame on you Farkers who are suggesting that this story may be less that entirely accurate.I have many British friends, and they assure me that the Mail is every bit as fine an example of journalism as our own Enquirer and World Net Daily!And very few of them are transvestites.

octopied:Bhruic: AdolfOliverPanties: You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Honest question - how do they stop it? Force abortions on women who get pregnant after 3 kids? Just stop giving them money, so that the kids end up suffering? There's no good answer to the problem that doesn't end up hurting the children more than the parents. And the kids are innocent.

Forced sterilization if you are on handouts for all three.

I'm all in favor of everyone deserving to have one child even in less than favorable financial circumstances. Heck, I'd like one myself before I run out of good eggs, but it costs a fortune for a fertility clinic here, and I'm not in a relationship, don't want to play "baby roulette" with random people.Not to mention I have to work.So I probably don't get to have one. So needless to say, stuff like this infuriates me. I definitely think some people should be sterilized particularly if they keep having kids others have to pay for.

"I'm saying you've already done plenty of things to regret, you just don't know what they are. It's when you discover them, when you see the folly in something you've done and you wish that you had it to do over, but it's too late. So you pick that thing up and carry it with you to remind you that life goes on, the world will spin without you, you really don't matter in the end. Then you will gain character because honesty will reach out from inside and tattoo itself across your face." Danny Devito Big Kahuna

Bhruic:AdolfOliverPanties: You want to live on the dole, then you should be forced to stop at maybe three kids, maximum. Benefits do not go up at all after that third spawning.

Honest question - how do they stop it? Force abortions on women who get pregnant after 3 kids? Just stop giving them money, so that the kids end up suffering? There's no good answer to the problem that doesn't end up hurting the children more than the parents. And the kids are innocent.

"Forced sterilization" is usually the first answer, followed by "cut off benefits" if told the first option is barbaric.

frozenhotchocolate:England much like many European nations is generous with incentives to mothers because their birthrate is so low. This is better than importing immigrants that will live off the dole anyways but not assimilate into society as easily.

Why does subby hate the poor? Clearly he is saying that all poor people should be left on the street and have their organs sold to GOP donors by posting a mail article pointing out that there are idiots on the dole in England.