One of my friends just had cosmetic surgery to get rid of his love handles and create abs and pecs. Like Paul said -- $$$$. It doesn't look too bad, but I guess that I am biased because I know the secret behind how he got it.

yeahim40 saidOne of my friends just had cosmetic surgery to get rid of his love handles and create abs and pecs. Like Paul said -- $$$$. It doesn't look too bad, but I guess that I am biased because I know the secret behind how he got it.

Do you think this is cheating?

It's only cheating if people find out about it.

maxjf said

cityaznguy said

maxjf saidlow bodyfat %

This. Damn he has one of the most impressive abs I have seen. maxjf what's your BF? Like 4-5% I am guessing?

The guy above me is right. Good body is made in the kitchen. All my trainers and friends with amazing physiques tell me that.

thanks! im not sure what my bf% is i always forget whenever i get it checked. and i think my scale is broken (really!), it always says im 22% bodyfat!!

yeahim40 saidOne of my friends just had cosmetic surgery to get rid of his love handles and create abs and pecs. Like Paul said -- $$$$. It doesn't look too bad, but I guess that I am biased because I know the secret behind how he got it.

Do you think this is cheating?

Not at all.My boss got that done about the same time I started working out.Now 1.5 yrs later, I still have a 6-pack and he doesn't...never did.And yes, I rag him about it sometimes.

You guys might think that he's kidding but he's actually right. Adderal is a form of amphetamine which suppresses your appetite and at the same time boost your epinephrine in the body, which raises your metabolism and burns a lot of fat.

You guys might think that he's kidding but he's actually right. Adderal is a form of amphetamine which suppresses your appetite and at the same time boost your epinephrine in the body, which raises your metabolism and burns a lot of fat.

yeahim40 saidOne of my friends just had cosmetic surgery to get rid of his love handles and create abs and pecs. Like Paul said -- $$$$. It doesn't look too bad, but I guess that I am biased because I know the secret behind how he got it.

Do you think this is cheating?

Not at all.My boss got that done about the same time I started working out.Now 1.5 yrs later, I still have a 6-pack and he doesn't...never did.And yes, I rag him about it sometimes.

Ha! That's pretty funny, and I'll remember it in about a year when we're comparing to see who's got the better abs.

That's the flaw with it though... you cannot cut out all carbs. We convert carbs into glucose, and we need it for energy. When we cut down on carbs, our bodies start to use stored fat for energy instead.

Call me weird, but I think really defined abs almost look sickly, almost like how those nearly 300lb bodybuilders don't look appealing either. I say aim for a defined moderate six pack, no need to be ripped in that area.

Do cardio, do some ab work (it doesn't take much actually), do a lot of "big" lifts, aka lifts that work multiple body parts, they nearly always hit the core in some way.

The biggest key though, is diet. Once you get to the lower BF% it really comes to just eating clean and burning the fat and hope you make it through the plateaus. I'll second (or third) the low carb diet, it's nice to spike fat loss and get shredded in a short amount of time, but energy can be an issue if you do it long term. I've seen my best results through a ketogenic diet. High muscle retention and quick fat loss.