Comments on: Son of NARTH Co-Founder Describes Coming Out To His Fatherhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213
News and commentary about the anti-gay lobbyMon, 07 Aug 2017 19:21:39 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5By: Ben in Oaklandhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213#comment-264977
Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:58:25 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=55213#comment-264977It could easily be both, Richard. The kind of bigotry expressed as a wholly imaginary superioirty. No active hate involved, but one can make money off of people you despise.

I can think of a number of reasonable appearing people, like Brian brown, who might well fit this.

]]>By: Tim Luskhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213#comment-264976
Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:54:46 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=55213#comment-264976As an advisor to President Clinton, the gay son was no friend to our community.
Just sayin
]]>By: Richard Rushhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213#comment-264940
Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:45:59 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=55213#comment-264940Richard said that his father never tried to “cure” him. If he (the father) really believed his public statements regarding homosexuality, then the obvious question is, why didn’t he try to “cure” his son? Or was he just perpetrating a lucrative scam to help support his rich Upper East Side lifestyle?
]]>By: jpeckjrhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213#comment-264915
Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:32:39 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=55213#comment-264915“How strange it must have been for a gay son to maintain a relationship with his father while his father became increasingly doctrinaire in his approach to homosexuality.”

Well, families are funny that way. What seems strange to outsiders seems completely unstrange to insiders.

]]>By: Regan DuCassehttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2013/04/08/55213#comment-264899
Mon, 08 Apr 2013 16:49:15 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=55213#comment-264899BTW: The nearly lifelong time spent in study of CRIMINAL science does make me wonder about the acquired pathology about homosexuality to THIS degree.

The course of study requires staying educated in behavioral sciences too. Which is why it’s jaw dropping what the anti gay do with THEIR college degrees, even if they are inexpert on homosexuality as Socarides is. Jen RoMo has her degree in economics. So many people with doctorates in anything BUT expertise in gay people, use their credentials so fraudulently on the subject of gay people.
Socarides is so outmoded, regardless his era. Doctors aren’t allowed to continue to practice anything else, who refuse to update their methodology or change their practice with newer discovery.
Even THAT is so wrong and definitely should be questioned.

That’s a very egregious lack of how and in what way, mental illness is diagnosed. Let alone observed.
Serious mental illness, whether clinical or acute, can’t be hidden. That’s one point. And clinical classifications, such as paraphilias, and pathologies, also have very specific profiles.
Typically they are autonomic, compulsive and obsessive.
There eventually come disabling, or socially isolating obstacles to functioning.
In other words, that dysfunction can be detected by just about anyone in the social network of the individual.

However, without including a legacy of systemic civil isolation, discrimination, bigotry and threat for one’s identity and distinction, that’s an omission that doesn’t complete a diagnosis of other clinical issues.
Especially those that aren’t exclusive to anyone, regardless their orientation.

And for Socarides to say that there is no such thing as a well adjusted, happy gay person is the next egregious level of omission, diagnosis and result.
If he never looked for any for comparison, he wouldn’t find any.

I resent the anti gay continually bringing up the issue of the changes in the DSM and homosexuality no longer being classified a dysfunctional illness, as if the psych establishment were blackmailed and terrorized into changing it.
Rather than obligatory research, and updates and also considerable expansion of methodology doing it.
As with just about everything else, the anti gay define much by very narrow, uniform and idealized standards.
Which only leads to more ignorance, not more education.
Evidently, NARTH focusing so much on homosexuality means that public education would put them out of work.
This preoccupation with creating political and civil discrimination against gay people, and not anyone ELSE with a serious and disabling mental problem, is too weird in an of itself.
If I had MY ‘druthers, I wish they’d focus on the kinds of impulsive and casual ways in which people (like the parade of mass shooters) engage in organized violence.
Or the impetus behind policies fomented by bigotry.
Even better, the study of sociopaths. Who number 1 in 25 and literally ARE the most dangerous of people with a mental and emotional disorder.