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How does that go again? [Darleen Click]

Over the past decade, Hamas had launched thousands of rockets into Israel with one aim: to kill and maim as many Israeli citizens as possible — Israelis at work, at play, asleep in their homes, in their cars. Finally, Israel responded by killing Ahmed al-Jabari, the chief organizer of Hamas violence, the Hamas “military commander” as he was known among Palestinians.

In other words, an evil entity made war on a peaceful, decent entity, and the latter responded.

How has the New York Times reported this?

On Friday, on its front page, the Times featured two three-column wide photos. The top one was of Gaza Muslim mourners alongside the dead body of al-Jabari. The photo below was of Israeli Jews mourning alongside the dead body of Mira Scharf, a 27-year-old mother of three.

What possible reason could there be for the New York Times to give identical space to these two pictures? One of the dead, after all, was a murderer, and the other was one of his victims.

The most plausible reason is that the Times wanted to depict through pictures a sort of moral equivalence: Look, sophisticated Times readers, virtually identical scenes of death and mourning on both sides of the conflict. How tragic. […]

As the flagship news source of the left, the New York Times reveals the great moral failing inherent to leftism — its combination of moral relativism and the division of the world between strong and weak, Western and non-Western, and rich and poor, rather than between good and evil.

So true. What’s 36 dead Palestinian children? 3 dead Isrealis gives them the right to commit terror and murder civilians. The Times is reporting the facts on the ground.
The murder of 3 people is being used to justify a massacre.

Islam is the millstone. If your plan doesn’t include constraining, undermining, or eradicating Islam, you don’t have a plan. What you have is a hope.

Every “Islamist” that comes down the camel path tells us that what he does and wants done is what the Koran requires of him, and yet what the West has for leaders these sorry days continue to bend over backwards to reinforce the “Religion of Peace” propaganda. A while back I was watching one of those real crime news program and the prosecutor was going on about motive and opportunity. Well, for all those Islamaniacs extant, the Koran is their motivation and they are just looking for their or any opportunity.

When Eastern Europe and Russia fell out from under the Marxist-Leninist yoke, it was because that failed ideology had be so constrained militarily and politically and so undermined as to be laughable, that its eradication was the only viable alternative. Yet, even Israel’s leaders refuse to connect the ideological dots and hold Islam and all its intendant nonsense up to public ridicule.

More than ten years after the worst terrorist attack in America’s history, we are still trying to whistle past the graveyard that is Islam.

They’re pricks, happy. I’ve been around a lot of them in social and work settings for over 30 years.

Back in the 70s, a lot of my girlfriends dated Iranians because they had money and bought them stuff and girls are materialistic that way. I never went out with any because I saw how they courted these girls, bedded them, and then tossed them aside like they were trash. The Iranian guys collected girls like charms on a bracelet.

My best friend from childhood married a Lebanese. He’s a good guy and they’ve been together for a long, long time BUT he is a Catholic.

Anyway, Muslims are whiny slackers at work and sulking bitch-slapping guys at home.

The excuse for the moral equivalence is that War Kills Children And Other Living Things. Ergo, War is Bad, and every good reader of the Times knows that they should deplore it. They know this because the Times’ editors remind them regularly.

It wasn’t always this way. Sophisticated people used to understand that sometimes war is necessary to prevent even worse things:

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice – a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice – is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.

But of course, everybody knows that there never was a knuckle-dragging Bible-thumping cousin-humping Budweiser-swilling NASCAR-watching ignorant uneducated racist sexist hillbilly redneck warmonger worse than John Stuart Mill.

As the flagship news source of the left, the New York Times reveals the great moral failing inherent to leftism — its combination of moral relativism and the division of the world between strong and weak, Western and non-Western, and rich and poor, rather than between good and evil.

“What a ridiculous statement[,] StrangernFiction observes. “The Left IS evil. For the Left to divide the world between good and evil it would have to admit it is evil.”

That’s were the relativism comes in, to “problematize” away the difference between agression and self-defense. I would also caution against accepting Prager’s mistaken argument. The Left does divide the world into good and evil.

I don’t suppose Dalekhumper will return to explain to us how “skulking irregulars launching missiles from one apartment building into another apartment building” is not terrorism, while “uniformed soldiers launching missiles from a military installation into an apartment building that was converted into a military installation by skulking irregulars” is terrorism.

Only one side celebrates the bombing & killing of the other, thinks decapitating an infant in its crib (along with the rest of its family) is great, and is now seen dragging suspected spies down the street.
As for the ratio of Palestinians to Israeli lives, it’s the Palestinians who established this when they demand the release of 100s of their people in exchange for a few IDF captives. They’re also the ones who think it’s honorable to sacrifice the lives of their children as suicide bombers in order to kill Israelis.
How does Israel make peace with people who will only be satisfied with their death & destruction?

The fact remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings. The idea of Hamas using “human shields” breaks down when the IDF kills them. They are not shields when they amount to dead civilians. With a roughly 60% civilian kill rate as per

dalek, you need to familiarize yourself with the laws of war. Those civilian casualties are on Hamas, not Israel. When apartment buildings are being used for combat purposes, they’re legitimate targets. However, using civilian facilities for combat purposes is a war crime.

The fact remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings.

No, they are not. When Hamas launches missiles from an apartment building, it becomes a military installation. Technically, it’s a military installation when the armaments and combatants first arrive there, but it isn’t usually revealed as a military site until the missiles are launched.

IDF is not knocking down apartment blocks just for shits and giggles; that’s Hamas’ schtick. IDF is taking out sites from which attacks are launched against their territory, and it is the exact same reaction that any sovereign nation would take under the circumstances. Do you honestly believe that America, if a bunch of crazy Quebecois separatists started lobbing artillery over Lake Champlain, would just tell Vermonters to get used to it?

As Pablo notes above: when military leaders put their missile sites and their headquarters in densely-populated civilian areas, the collateral damage that inevitably results is the fault of those leaders, not those who target them.

I suspect that you’re ineducable, and that our words are wasted on such as you. They remain arguments worth stating, if only so that others might be informed, and thereby become less likely to fall prey to your specious “reasoning” in the future.

Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Having observed their obvious dislike for “fags,” shouldn’t we conclude that Fred Phelps’s clan has been deeply and horribly wronged by homosexuals over a course, perhaps, of generations?

Otherwise, how to account for such deep-seated hostility? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, right? Shouldn’t we stop returning their hatred and start looking at root causes? Shouldn’t we exercise some ordinary compassion and try to see things for their side? Why exclude, out of hand, that they really HAVE been wronged by gays?

They divide the world into oppressors and the oppressed, and they figure that the ostensibly oppressed people have the right to fight back against their oppressors.

It’s a power thing, full stop. There’s no moral standard that they would call good or evil; they just agitate to take away power from the powerful and grab it for themselves, or if not for themselves directly, then for other “have nots” worldwide, with whom they identify.

The Palestinians are “have nots” simply because Israel prospers on the same land that they failed on. The entire Muslim world is a festering cesspool because they do not have a social or political order that supports prosperity (the Kurds being the exception that proves the rule).

They can’t blame themselves because they’re an honor/shame society: if someone else’s success makes you look bad (shaming) you have to get your honor back by humiliating or destroying that someone.

They have a longstanding conviction that the Jews (and Jewish-controlled America) have ruined their lives. They lash out to recover their lost honor from those who make them look bad. Under no circumstances will they self-examine or attempt to forge their own path to prosperity.

Most of the children have been humiliated through sexual abuse and God knows what else; they grow up with the rage that engenders, and because they can’t lash out at their parents or relatives or teachers, they have to find another scapegoat, and that scapegoat is the Jews.

They’re a sick, twisted society. They’re the Westboro Baptist Church of the world. Any pity you might have for them is soon washed away by their despicable behavior.

Oh, one more thing, Dalekhunter: are you familiar with the little-sister gambit? It consists of little sister tormenting her older sibling incessantly until that sibling pops the little sister in the face, who then runs sobbing to mommy in the hopes of getting older sibling in trouble.

The idea of Hamas using “human shields” breaks down when the IDF kills them. They are not shields when they amount to dead civilians.

The Palis WANT those human shields to die, ya moron. They’re glorious martyrs who instantly inherit paradise and whose corpses serve as effective weapons of propaganda. They’ve been firing those rockets into Israel for the express purpose of provoking Israel into firing back and killing them, because they would rather have the global sympathy that those martyred corpses provide than to have the living people.

They themselves say that they love death more than we love life, and they’re enormously proud of that. They use human shields because they will get one of two results:

(a) Constrained by its decency, Israel doesn’t fire back or doesn’t take out the armaments, leaving the Palis to continue lobbing bombs with impunity.

(b) Israel does fire back, creating glorious martyrs, and Israel is condemned by the rest of the world. Again.

Nobody ever takes the Palis to task for using human shields in the first place. Nobody tells them that if they want to stop taking casualties, they could, you know, stop bombing Israel.

Why can’t you see how twisted your reaction is? Why are you happy with a moral compass that points due south?

Why can’t you see how twisted your reaction is? Why are you happy with a moral compass that points due south?

– Because, like dogs licking their own balls, they can.

– The Left needs to stake out the indecent, inhumane, asocial ground, because its all they have, and not a few of them, particularly their most militant members, like it that way, being hated and reviled.

– Its what they do. Its what they are.

– The over-riding theme in everything they do is counter-culture, chaos, and anarchy. Its the only way they can survive for very long, and they know it.

Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Having observed their obvious dislike for “fags,” shouldn’t we conclude that Fred Phelps’s clan has been deeply and horribly wronged by homosexuals over a course, perhaps, of generations?

Otherwise, how to account for such deep-seated hostility? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, right? Shouldn’t we stop returning their hatred and start looking at root causes? Shouldn’t we exercise some ordinary compassion and try to see things for their side? Why exclude, out of hand, that they really HAVE been wronged by gays?

“Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Having observed their obvious dislike for “fags,” shouldn’t we conclude that Fred Phelps’s clan has been deeply and horribly wronged by homosexuals over a course, perhaps, of generations?”

No, I think the extension of the normal logic is that anyone who dislikes, hates, fears or has any ambivalence for homosexuals or the homosexual agenda is solely motivated by a self hatred of their own secretly gay self. Chic-Fil-A is a gay chicken restaurant.

Therefore we can safely conclude that all violence and discrimination intentionally targeted against LBGT is perpetrated by other LBGT who hate themselves, want to keep their LBGT nature a secret, and disassociate themselves it by proxy.

But when Shanique Davis Speight was escorted by police to be sworn in, a group of residents, led by SEIU Local 617 President Rahaman Muhammad, stormed the dais and appeared to lunge toward Speight and her grade-school-age son.

Police restrained the group as they toppled a podium and residents were caught in the rush. When Muhammad would not give way, an officer doused him with pepper spray, along with residents, reporters and at least one other officer.

Man against the State. Man against the State. Man always loses that battle. Even in groups he is impotent against a Leviathan. As much as I admire the Tea Parties, the solution is not to send like minded souls to Washington. It is a corrupting wasteland, and they will either succumb, or be voted out for not bringing that fat, sweet bacon home. Because the same Man who votes for that fiscal hawk also, inexorably, still wants his bacon. He just doesn’t want ne’er-do-wells in blue states to have his bacon. Besides, sending a Tea Partier to Washington is like sending your preacher into a whorehouse to clean it up. He’s going to emerge in drunken stupor, without his pocket watch and Bible, and with a red wax ring around his willie.

No, I think, the solution is not tilting against the windmill that is the DC blob. It is in federalism. Real 10th Amendment federalism. States against the Leviathan. We all know the Constitution strictly enumerated the federal government’s powers, and seeded the enormity of powers to the states. But Leviathan has been gobbling up those rights for 100 years, using a carrot and stick approach of funding bribes and the Commerce Clause. And each state has individually weakened, and capitulated.

But, what ho? The GOP now holds a large majority of governorships and statehouses. That election wasn’t a blowout, and the Republicans control a lot of field level power. One man cannot beat back Leviathan, but 29 governors and statehouses can. If they coordinate, and play by the left’s rules. Select specific areas where the federal government has usurped power, from education to highway construction to Medicaid allocations to, hell, drug laws, and sue the piss out of Leviathan’s minions. Sue, sue, sue. Alinsky them.

Sue the EPA, sue the Interior Department, sue the Department of Health and Human Services. Sue the cabinet members individually. Sue czars. Find sympathetic federal courts and drag those czars’ asses into court. Sue as groups of states, sue as individual states. Just file hundreds, if not thousands, of lawsuits. Most will be swept away by invoking immunity and the supremacy clause, but not all. At some point Leviathan will have to allocate resources. Pick their battles. Toss a few bones. Here’s a thought: if five or six western states sue to allow energy exploration on federal lands some federal judge is eventually going to give them their day in court. The Supreme Court’s mighty firewall could actually be a blessing here. Many appellate court decisions could be upheld.

The facthalf-truth remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings.

FTFY. Odd how you didn’t point out the whole truth in your little screed of Offended Outrage!™ towards those nasty people you hate so much. Oh well, others filled in the gaps for, well, not you since you’re a small-minded fanatic.

Peace was made for reasonable people who are willing to give and take. It was not made for those who only take.

Peacemaking is not a policy, it is a religion that we are all obligated to believe in. It is an immoral moral principle that ends in war.
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The business of peace is the industry of death. Behind the peace sign is a field of flowers with a grave for every one. Behind the peace agreement and the ceasefire is another war that will be worse than the last.

The CNN crawl at Frank’s in Fayetteville, where a man can get a helluva martini, with some I can’t believe its from around here baklava said Obama “closed the deal”. The bartender Greg, who was just telling me about the surfboard rack he had on the side of his bicycle said, “bet he stuck it up netynahu’s ass huh?” I was pretty damned proud of Greg!

I don’t suppose Dalekhumper will return to explain to us how “skulking irregulars launching missiles from one apartment building into another apartment building” is not terrorism, while “uniformed soldiers launching missiles from a military installation into an apartment building that was converted into a military installation by skulking irregulars” is terrorism.

I also don’t suppose he will ever acknowledge that only the first of those is against the Geneva Conventions as “perfidy”, and that when the first happens, the second action is specifically authorized as legitimate military action under those same Conventions so that the actual violators do not profit by their violation.

Dalekhumper is an ignorant endorser of murdering Jews without the guts to actually say so.

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