Co in 1831. The next time I saw Abraham was in in the City of Springfield in the year about 1833 & 4; but was residing in Menard Co at that time  I never had a flat boat trip with Abe before nor since the one told you  have been often to New Orleans I was down the River when Negroes tried to Rob Lincoln's boat  did not see it. [3] Abe Lincoln did Carry a drunken man home one night to keep him from freezing  but my Cousin did not know this & hence did not state it. The man I think his name was Carter told me Abe did  Abe told me  Abes father told me.and all this is good evidence enough. Carter told me Abe was right good & clever to pack him to the fire.

Abrm was after the black Hawk war a Candidate of the legislature  in 1832  34  36  I saw him some time after this pleading law at Decatur.