At last night's debate, Chris Matthews was interviewing the crowd. A woman starts yelling from the crowd accusing the president of being a communist. Matthews then asks her what a communist is, and she can't explain what a communist is.

If you are going to accuse someone of something, at least have the information available as to what you are calling them. Get your facts straight. This woman looked like an ignorant fool.

I am assuming many of the right-wingers here will jump to this woman's defense. Let's hear it.

I am assuming many of the right-wingers here will jump to this woman's defense. Let's hear it.

You'd be wrong in your assumption.

I'm not necessarily a supporter of Obama, but I don't go around calling him a Muslim terrorist, communist, whatever it is that gets the most media attention (after all, the people that act like this DO get the most attention).

One of the sad parts of our culture today is that a video like this actually has a chance to permeate the pea-sized brains of some undecided voters enough to influence the way that they may vote.

Videos of people claiming that they are voting for Obama because he is giving them free healthcare and cell phones is a bit different than a video of a moron that creates Youtube videos for $ endorsing Romney because he is hot.

At last night's debate, Chris Matthews was interviewing the crowd. A woman starts yelling from the crowd accusing the president of being a communist. Matthews then asks her what a communist is, and she can't explain what a communist is.

If you are going to accuse someone of something, at least have the information available as to what you are calling them. Get your facts straight. This woman looked like an ignorant fool.

I am assuming many of the right-wingers here will jump to this woman's defense. Let's hear it.

Totally agree with you. However, I think the person who wants free healthcare has a far better reason.

there is no such thing as free healthcare. it would be incorporated into your taxes, which in most cases you would see a spike higher than what you would pay for healthcare annually.

why anyone would wan't to make this or any sector public when the private sector can and does more efficiently is beyond me. I would want the government to have a hand in as little as possible.. Military and services the private sector cannot feasibly provide..

there is no such thing as free healthcare. it would be incorporated into your taxes, which in most cases you would see a spike higher than what you would pay for healthcare annually.

why anyone would wan't to make this or any sector public when the private sector can and does more efficiently is beyond me. I would want the government to have a hand in as little as possible.. Military and services the private sector cannot feasibly provide..

The gov't is not getting into healthcare, they're getting into healthcare insurance. And even then they're not providing it (except for medicare/medicaid), they're just trying to make it a level playing field that most people can afford. The private sector has not done so efficiently or fairly. Now whether or not the gov't can actually affect positive change in the healthcare insurance field is another discussion. I have my doubts.

The gov't is not getting into healthcare, they're getting into healthcare insurance. And even then they're not providing it (except for medicare/medicaid), they're just trying to make it a level playing field that most people can afford. The private sector has not done so efficiently or fairly. Now whether or not the gov't can actually affect positive change in the healthcare insurance field is another discussion. I have my doubts.

i didn't want to confuse anyone so i just went with their quote. i get that they are trying to make it a level playing field, but I don't see their solution making it a level playing field.. unfair to both the private sector and people in the country imo.. there are options that i feel should be enacted to have a positive change, but from the insurance company perspective in regarding lower income families. I only see the current plan as an unnecessary burden on tax payers. even medicaid and medicare should be abolished in my opinion with very select exceptions, but that of course would require mandates for insurance sector.

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

Ok, so because there was an attack in Libya, I can't post anything about Rmoney. Ok, gotcha.

If you want people to not call you on an attempt to misdirect attention or distract, then probably your best bet would be to post something about Romney, or what his designates did or said. This wasnt a post about something that Republicans did or said in any official capacity, so much as it was a post about the behaviour of a dumbass supporter of his, which he cannot control. As was mentioned, both sides have dumbass supporters.

The event you highlighted proves only that dumb people are allowed to publicly express political support. I assumed the video of people excited about their free Obamaphones already established that.

The events in Libya are a much bigger deal, and involve matters that are much more serious.

The fact that Obama and Biden continue to repeatedly fixate on silly memes like "Binders of Women" or "Bigbird", instead of addressing the real problems of the day, is troubling to a lot of people, including many lifelong Democrats.

Which is the bigger crime here, some poorly chosen turn of phrase to describe efforts to improve workplace diversity, or ignoring requests for more security which results in the deaths of 4 Americans?

You cannot deny that liberals would be foaming at the mouth had the tables been turned and a Republican was at the wheel when that happened. Considering how nasty and vitriolic some are when attacking D-list celebrities who dare to express right-wing support on twitter, I cant imagine how venomous they would be on issues that really matter.

There are dumb people on both sides. A thread that devolves into "Let's see who's party has the stupidest people" is a thread begotten by stupid people.

The biggest scandal this side of Watergate is upon us with Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador, a topic mind you no Democrat wants to even get into the facts are so bad against this Administration, that the focus is on idiot voters outside of a debate??

Liberals would be foaming at the mouth had GWB:

Failed to protect our Embassy on the anniversary of 9/11

Let Al'Queada become resurgent in North Africa and kill a U.S. Ambassador for the first time in 30 years.

Lied about the root cause being a video that 19 people saw when it came out 6 months ago

Deny funding security for the Libyan Ambassador, while at the same time funding green cars for another Embassy

The attack in Libya is a tragedy I agree. There is no way I would ever want to see 4 United States Citizens lose their lives over ANYTHING.

I posted that thread a month after the attack in Libya, 10/12. Right after another current event the vice-presidential debate. Exactly how long must we wait until we can change the subject to something other than the attack in Libya?

The thread I linked to above was started on 9/27. How is that thread not any different than this?

If you want people to not call you on an attempt to misdirect attention or distract, then probably your best bet would be to post something about Romney, or what his designates did or said. This wasnt a post about something that Republicans did or said in any official capacity, so much as it was a post about the behaviour of a dumbass supporter of his, which he cannot control. As was mentioned, both sides have dumbass supporters.

The event you highlighted proves only that dumb people are allowed to publicly express political support. I assumed the video of people excited about their free Obamaphones already established that.

The events in Libya are a much bigger deal, and involve matters that are much more serious.

The fact that Obama and Biden continue to repeatedly fixate on silly memes like "Binders of Women" or "Bigbird", instead of addressing the real problems of the day, is troubling to a lot of people, including many lifelong Democrats.

Which is the bigger crime here, some poorly chosen turn of phrase to describe efforts to improve workplace diversity, or ignoring requests for more security which results in the deaths of 4 Americans?

You cannot deny that liberals would be foaming at the mouth had the tables been turned and a Republican was at the wheel when that happened. Considering how nasty and vitriolic some are when attacking D-list celebrities who dare to express right-wing support on twitter, I cant imagine how venomous they would be on issues that really matter.

Why didn't you bring this up in the Obama Phone Voter thread? It was also posted well after the attack in Libya?

What happened in Benghazi, and the fact that pleas for additional security were ignored, that is a big deal. Even self-professed democrats in this thread have called the handling of the whole affair so far to be a disgrace. With each day, more bits of data get out, and it looks worse and worse with the passage of time, not better.

How long must you wait before people stop talking about it ? I would imagine it will stop getting cycles on the news outlets when a week can go by without increasingly damning revelations about it stop seeping out into the public domain.

It is only a double standard if you can argue that the Obamafone thread was designed to be a similar distraction from an equally egregious dropping of the ball by the Romney camp. You know, look over here at these dumb Obama supporters, pay no attention to the deaths that happened on Mitt's watch. I'm unaware of anything he did that would come close to ranking up with the Benghazi debacle.

Given the amount of screen time the "binders of women" and "big bird" comments have received by the Obama/Biden ticket during speeches, one would think these two stumbles are on par with what happened in Libya. Clearly they are not the same severity, but it's understandable why they would want to keep those occupying peoples attention.