Hi .. a lot of math to cipher through in that link ! Simple question for those that know... (I expect the answer will be no) ..but can you use 2 lesser (25%xp) biscuits simultaneously to gain an extra bonus?

They are tagged as requires darkmoon fare and normally that would mean they disappear when the fare ends. I wouldn't expect you to loose them just for leaving the fare. The buff should last past the end of the fare if you use it on an alt you only use for a tamer so they don't stay logged in long. I know my panda monk still has the wheee buff up from the carousel.

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"Even when you are winning soundly, you must always give your opponent a way to retreat with honor. If you don't, then he has no reason to surrender. He will fight until the bitter end, and you will pay a larger price for victory."

Dragonwizard wrote:The 10% buff from the Safari Hat and DMF Hat do NOT stack. So if you have the Safari Hat getting the DMF hat would be a waste.

This is incorrect. They do indeed stack. It was one of my testing points when generating the guide. With a level 11 carry pet, I normally get 8787 experience with the hat and both pet treats. When I added the top hat to that scenario I got over 9200 exp with a level 11 carry pet.

In terms of losing them, I only ever lost them when the DMF ended. I was able to take them out of the fair and fly around pandaria. I used 3 this last fair, all on Pandaria, Northrend, and Cata tamers.

Pretty sure it stacks with all of the pet buffs, including safari hat, lesser pet treat, and pet treat. Despite it being called a hat it is in fact a consumable. The carousel buff does not grant additional pet xp.

Jerebear wrote:This is incorrect. They do indeed stack. It was one of my testing points when generating the guide. With a level 11 carry pet, I normally get 8787 experience with the hat and both pet treats. When I added the top hat to that scenario I got over 9200 exp with a level 11 carry pet.

In terms of losing them, I only ever lost them when the DMF ended. I was able to take them out of the fair and fly around pandaria. I used 3 this last fair, all on Pandaria, Northrend, and Cata tamers.

That's odd because I thought I tried the same thing (both treats and the safari hat + adding the top hat) and didn't get any boost at all. MMMM well my memory does suck so maybe I mixed up the top hat buff with the carousel buff, I'll have to test it at the next DMF again.

Looking at Wowheads database both the Safari Hat and Top Hat have the exact same spell effect and I didn't think you could have 2 of the same effects at one time, am I wrong in that assumption?

Both Hats spell effect-Apply Aura: ?? (Aura #420)Value: 10

"Even when you are winning soundly, you must always give your opponent a way to retreat with honor. If you don't, then he has no reason to surrender. He will fight until the bitter end, and you will pay a larger price for victory."

I saw that but was thinking that because the values where different it made it not the exact same effect.

"Even when you are winning soundly, you must always give your opponent a way to retreat with honor. If you don't, then he has no reason to surrender. He will fight until the bitter end, and you will pay a larger price for victory."

It's quite simple, too! You just don't take the hats out of the Darkmoon Prize boxes. See, the boxes don't disappear when the faire ends. They can be stored, mailed - heck, they aren't even account-bound. I hoard them, and when I need to level an alt, I just mail it on over, and the hat is in there for use.

The clincher is you have to take the hat out and use it for the buff before switching zones/entering an instance [if the hat is directly in your inventory and no longer in the prize box]. Otherwise, it will disappear, as normal.

I actually never knew the hats disappeared post-faire time until I zoned into a dungeon without popping the buff and saw it was gone. I contacted a GM who said that was normal, but... as it turns out, they didn't even know you could keep them if they were still boxed up. Go figure.

I already tested this back in February, but wanted to re-verify due to the discussion.

Result: Safari Hat and Darkmoon Top Hat do indeed stack.

Thanks for doing that as I haven't had a chance to test it yet this week. I stand corrected and edited my post to remove the false information.

"Even when you are winning soundly, you must always give your opponent a way to retreat with honor. If you don't, then he has no reason to surrender. He will fight until the bitter end, and you will pay a larger price for victory."