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Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Only Switzerland spends more per pupil than America. The public school system can't be reformed. There are too many people whose livelihoods depend on maintenance of the status quo. Nothing is going to change.

So, we're doomed then?

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking

Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

The price of exclusion...always been that way. Higher learning was always a caste system and it still is....why should it cost what it does to go to haaaaarvaaaard over columbia.... because if you make it into haaaavaaard you are now in the top tier of the caste system and you get to be a bandit that doesnt have to wear a mask.

Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

Originally Posted by lpast

The price of exclusion...always been that way. Higher learning was always a caste system and it still is....why should it cost what it does to go to haaaaarvaaaard over columbia.... because if you make it into haaaavaaard you are now in the top tier of the caste system and you get to be a bandit that doesnt have to wear a mask.

Actually Columbia costs more than Harvard. Tuition is about $7k more and the cost of living is way higher in NYC. The are both in the same neighborhood as most colleges for tuition costs though. The hierarchy comes more from admissions standards than from cost.

Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

Originally Posted by mac

Well...we have a higher percentage of educated people than ever before....and we're slipping in every catagory, including "inventing things". How does that fit your vision?

The ignorant and dysfunctional English of college graduates is at about a 6th Grade level. This does not prove that we need fewer graduates, but that we need more talented graduates. To get that, we have to pay them. Economics 101. That also includes those with PhD talent who can only stomach working without pay in college until they finish undergraduate work. The common fallacy of the discussion here is called (by the only people who deserve to be educated, whether they submitted to formal education or learned on their own) Begging the Question, which of course college graduates don't know the meaning of because most of them shouldn't have been allowed into college in the first place. You are assuming that education is unproductive, but it is only this indentured-servitude system that is unproductive. Don't reform, instead discredit and replace with paid professional training. Grade school and high school should also be changed to provide quick and natural incentives. Think of the way we treat superior athletes. That produces a maximum development of the available talent.

On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

Originally Posted by teamosil

Well one thing is for sure, you don't go around bashing education. You raise your kids to understand that education is the key to everything. To their future, to their ability to make a difference in the world, to the future of the country, everything. And you do everything you can both as a voter and as a parent to make that path as attractive as possible for kids to follow.

In these suffocating times, Daddy's Money is the key to everything. The statistic about college graduates making more money is misleading. The significant statistic is that those whose parents made more money also make more money.

On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

Originally Posted by teamosil

Actually Columbia costs more than Harvard. Tuition is about $7k more and the cost of living is way higher in NYC. The are both in the same neighborhood as most colleges for tuition costs though. The hierarchy comes more from admissions standards than from cost.

Ok...I bow to your knowledge, I have no current knowledge of cost...I do know my uncle had a masters from columbia and telling me he couldnt afford harvard....but that was many many years ago..