Yes he was involved in F1 plans by Bravo and 5 years before Bravo, by Atmos. Both teams never drive in F1, Bravo because after his death, but why Atmos was a never ending project, I don't know. It is little known about Atmos - and little known about Mosnier

A) Built but never raced in F1 B) Built but never raced in any categoryC) Built but never intended to race (design studies, test cars etc)D) Partially built, not completedE) Wind tunnel model or mock-up builtF) Existed only on paperG) Existed only as a twinkle in the designer's eyeH) Existed only as a twinkle in some journalist's eyeI) The Toutou

I don't know where cars like the Walker and Kieft would fit in. Exist and race now, but then...

DCN=cars which Doug knows about but no-one else does (I suspect this could be quite a large category).

Dear Pedro,Can you tell me where you got this information regarding Doug knowing of the Alta Streamliner ? I believe I own this very car!Thanks.David.

Has anybody here thet Toyota built a v-12 and but it in one of their GT-Ones when they first entered F-1? Does anybody have any info on this?

I didn't know they had actually built a V12, had they done that before the FIA threw its toys out of the pram and mandated 3.0 V10's the year Toyota entered? If it does exist, i bet it sounds awesome...

I didn't know they had actually built a V12, had they done that before the FIA threw its toys out of the pram and mandated 3.0 V10's the year Toyota entered? If it does exist, i bet it sounds awesome...

IIRC the FIA's mandating of V10s was rumoured to have put Toyota's entry into F1 back a season - though this may have been a convenient excuse for not being ready. So the V12 may have been well advanced at the turn of the millennium, around the time that Toyota were carrying out private testing.

I didn't know they had actually built a V12, had they done that before the FIA threw its toys out of the pram and mandated 3.0 V10's the year Toyota entered? If it does exist, i bet it sounds awesome...

I am not 100% sure that they used a v-12, but I am sure I heard they tested a F-1 engine in the GT-ONE, now if they did or not...

There were longtime rumours that Mansell will buy into a F1 team or found a own team. There were rumours that Mansell will buy the Lotus team in the end of 1994 (I read this from Achim Schlang in the Motorsport aktuell some months ago). Perhaps someone can post an article to that rumours?
And there were rumours that Nigel Mansell will etablish a own F1 team in 1992 with golf profi Greg Norman (who wantéd to buy Brabham in 1989). Can you tell me more about that? Or post articles to that topic?
There were also rumours that Nigel Mansell will buy the Ultimate WSbR team which had F1 ambitions, but stuggled in summer because of the economy crises. Mansell's son Greg Mansell was driver there.
Now Nigel Mansell has a own team in Le-Mans-Series.
And in 1990 he bought a majoring shareholding in the Madgwick F3000 team. Were there never F1 plans?
Were there more planed projects from Nigel Mansell?

If I recall, the plan was to buy a Williams FW07 chassis and fit it with a turbocharged Zakspeed 4-in-line derived from the one that was used in the Zakspeed Ford Capri in the DRM Category for cars up to 2 liter. The Zakspeed Capri used a turbocharged 1.42 liter straight 4 .Don't pin me on it but I remember something about the plan fell through when Hezemans realized how much money would be involved with it.

Apologies if they have already been mentioned but I didn't see anything of them from flicking through the posts...

The two that stick out in my head without looking anything up are the Streamline Vanwall VW6 was tested in practice at Reims I think? in '57 but never raced and the Ferrari 312 'Spazzaneve', although that was reworked without the nose to race later on.

If I recall, the plan was to buy a Williams FW07 chassis and fit it with a turbocharged Zakspeed 4-in-line derived from the one that was used in the Zakspeed Ford Capri in the DRM Category for cars up to 2 liter. The Zakspeed Capri used a turbocharged 1.42 liter straight 4 .Don't pin me on it but I remember something about the plan fell through when Hezemans realized how much money would be involved with it.

after Alan Jenkins left McLaren for Penske in 1985, there were rumours about a F1 team from Penske with General Motors (Heinz Prüller). More about this?

I have no details on that but given the fact that Penske by theyn had taken up the Ilmor porjecte that was eventually branded Chevrolet (= GM) that might have been possible. I don't know if Chevrolet would have given its name to a F1 engine but since you had the Newman-Haas-Force Beatrice Ford project coming up too, it could have been a temptation for GM to let one of their companies represent them in F1. The more while F1 was also some kind of unfinished business for Penske.

Ganley was the GA in Tiga, the TI was Tim Schenken. They had bought the MRE business and renamed it and allowed themselves what David Hodges called "the distraction of an F1 project in 1978. This came close to realization - major components such as chassis and suspension were gathered together but never actually assembled".

The Ganley F1 project, which pre-dated Tiga, was done in 1973 & would have been ready for the 1974 season. The car is still owned by Howden Ganley & he is in the midst of restoring it.

I've recently been re-reading old Autosports and in the 14 June 1979 issue there is a news story about a 3-litre V12 engine that Honda had apparently already built and were testing. The speculation was that this would be seen in a Honda chassis run by John Surtees (whose own team had pulled out of F1 the previous winter), although unsurprisingly no-one would talk about it 'on the record'. Does anyone know any more about this project?

Apologies if they have already been mentioned but I didn't see anything of them from flicking through the posts...

The two that stick out in my head without looking anything up are the Streamline Vanwall VW6 was tested in practice at Reims I think? in '57 but never raced and the Ferrari 312 'Spazzaneve', although that was reworked without the nose to race later on.

This revived thread reminds me we haven't seen Mongoose for a while and the dreaded auto-showing of profile if you pass cursor over his name doesn't show anything.

Ganley was the GA in Tiga, the TI was Tim Schenken. They had bought the MRE business and renamed it and allowed themselves what David Hodges called "the distraction of an F1 project in 1978. This came close to realization - major components such as chassis and suspension were gathered together but never actually assembled".

The Ganley F1 project, which pre-dated Tiga, was done in 1973 & would have been ready for the 1974 season. The car is still owned by Howden Ganley & he is in the midst of restoring it.

The TIGA F1 project for 1979 was indeed built but it never competed in the F1 World Championship.

It was converted into a F2 car instead and was raced by Hans-Georg Bürger in the 1980 F2 European Championship.

Hans-Georg Bürger crashed in practice for the F2 race in Zandvoort and died on his severe injuries shortly after. Another unfulfilled talent who might have gone all the way to F1.

At best this must have been two projects, I worked at Tiga's in 78 and 79, and the chassis of the original F1 car was stored up above the Grundon garage. Along with a host of things that Howden must have collected. F2 was Tim's main project in 79, running the March 792 for Malboro, so I assume they built an F2 car for 1980 rather than plan an F1 car.

At best this must have been two projects, I worked at Tiga's in 78 and 79, and the chassis of the original F1 car was stored up above the Grundon garage. Along with a host of things that Howden must have collected. F2 was Tim's main project in 79, running the March 792 for Malboro, so I assume they built an F2 car for 1980 rather than plan an F1 car.

First hand information is still the best source, so thank you for the clarification.

I was sure I read the info about the TIGA F1/F2 thing about 4 years ago in the book "Hallo Fahrerlager 3" written by Rainer Braun. I checked it today but unfortunately it´s not mentioned there.

So I guess I must have read it in a tribute about Hans Georg Bürger written in a motorsport magazine like "Motorsport Aktuell" or "Speedweek".

I remember it because there it was mentioned that the car was originally designed to fit a Cosworth DFV and therefore was a bit too large and not perfectly balanced (a bit like the Indy car based Lola F3000 from 1985). Don´t know who the autor of the article was and where he had the information from.

BTW. I guess the Tiga F1 car stored above the garage was the car Howden Ganley built around 1973? Or was it an abandoned project of 1978?

I was recently looking for information on the JBM sports cars built by James Boothby, and found an article in the April 1948 issue of Motor Sport in WB's "Rumblings" column, which appears quite interesting. "The Bod" took the opportunity to test a couple of the road cars which JBM had built, and gave a brief resume of the company's future intentions, which included a single-seater which could be used for F1 racing (!).

Apparently the first chassis was under construction when WB visited, and this was intended for Boothby's own use, and a further run of 6 cars was envisaged. The car was to be fitted with an adapted Gray Fireball marine engine, 4-litres unblown, a 6-cylinder sidevalve unit giving 165bhp , and using a Wilson 'box. Proposed selling price was £825 plus purchase tax.

All of which is complete news to me. Quite obviously (?) the car was never finished, but what happened? I'm supposing here that Boothby expected most buyers to use the car for sprints/hillclimbs/short circuit racing - I doubt if it would have been competitive at a higher level.

I have seen a photo of one of the road cars, this one fitted with a body reminiscent of a Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica, and although the caption states that it is powered by a Ford V8, there are only 6 exhaust pipes, and these are of a very "homemade" nature. Could it be possible that Boothby gave up on his single-seater plans, and instead fitted the Gray engine into one of his sports cars?