Frustrated. Like the rest of us. I was glad to see President Trump stand up for Jim Jordan the other day. Unequivocal support, unlike the cowardly rino’s slinking away while the media closes in for the kill. My question for the President (the best President since Washington imo) is why you cannot have meetings or discussions with your biggest supporters in Congress? If you have something going on you don’t have to be specific…but these constant empty threats are now inviting ridicule. Ridicule even from the most loyal Trump supporters. Jim Jordan is having a rough time right now & it’s probably going to get worse. President Trumps support is encouraging but also red meat for the MSM.
Good people like Nune’s & Jordan should not have to beat their heads against the wall while DOJ / FBI laugh at them.
I do not believe Trump is laughing at the traitors trying to bring him down. I think he know’s they are too dangerous not to take seriously. I don’t know what he plans on doing but he didn’t get where he is at by tweets alone. Something is going on & I just wonder why his closest political allies are obviously kept ignorant of overwhelming evidence concerning a traitorous attempt at the overthrow of our country.
Once again tho, his statement of support for Jordan was great & everybody knows it will continue.

One can choose the variations on the theme of “fire the bums” or “declassification” but we are at a time that POTUS Trump must contribute consequential actions to further the efforts of the congress critters fighting his fight.

Previous allies have been reduced to vagabonds, literally play things for our out of control justice system. Manafort, Flynn and Cohen are being shredded and discarded. Credibility among the troops in the fight against DoJ / FBI and the intelligence services cabal is not something to discard. POTUS must provide a valid lifeline or the remaining House warriors will be swallowed up by the smug smirkers.

Oh contrar…….She backed off of Nunes several times. She actually gave him a pass. The Judge was trying to get Nunes to commit to impeaching RR or any of them for not complying. Nunes would not even broach the subject. I found his demeanor off the entire interview. He looked as though he would get sick at any moment. It was like he knew something that he could not reveal. Something that was not beneficial.

I love what Nunes is doing, and he has talked about contempt and impeachment of Rosenstein and others in the past. I thin his problem is that he knows he does not have the votes to pull it off. Why make a threat that you can’t back up. It’s why he suddenly is asking for Trump to intercede. That little smug pompous prick Rosenstein is laughing as he has stuff slow walked and hidden from Congress.

And what will impeachment do? The House may vote to impeach, but there is no way that the Senate gets 67 votes to uphold an impeachment. The MSM will run that as GOP grandstanding – even though it should be presented as Dem obstruction!

I noticed the same thing.
My take was that when he said PDJT needed to get involved and declassify the FISA material, he was explicitly telling us that he (Nunes) has nothing that he can use to enforce his oversight on DOJ.
Perhaps with no help from Ryan, it just isn’t possible for Nunes to do anything but bluster at DOJ. I continue to believe he’s doing everything in his power, but IMO he was signaling that for whatever reason, he is overpowered by DOJ.

Rosenstein has no fear of the House Oversight Committee. Just watched Bombard’s Body Language analysis of that hearing with Christopher Wray and Rod Rosenstein.

Although it was obvious to anyone that RR was smirking his way through that testimony, her insight into the subtle eyerolls at certain points, the way he totally and completely ignored Wray and the way he pointed his finger at Jim Jordan when accused of threatening House staff, exclaiming, “that’s not true!” (which Bombard compares Rosenstein’s semantical denial to veiled threat by a thug holding a baseball bat and commenting, “that’s a real nice car ya got there…”) really brings home the fact that Rosenstein gets his thrill from the fact that he has “119,000 people who work for me.”

His disdain for committee members by the way he avoided eye contact with questioner’s and his whole demeanor really shows what a little weasley king he thinks he is.

Bombard pointed out Rosenstein’s ‘tells’: he ordered the redactions, he ordered Strzok not to answer House Oversight questions and, though he wasn’t DAG when Crossfire Hurricane started, he knows everything about it, when it really started and who did what, and he loves the fact that his lawyer-speak leaves him, ultimately, untouchable.

As Bombard says, Rosenstein very happily lords over Christopher Wray and the DOJ as would a king. There’s really not anything that anyone can do to punish RR because he knows what he’s doing because the rules were designed by people like him to protect worms like him.

I don’t get this.
Why is this Committee billed as having “oversight” when they do not?
As I understand this actual nonexistent oversight, the People’s House has No Control OR oversight over rogue law enforcement OR investigative bodies.
So, in effect, the intent of oversight is nothing but a charade.
Am I understanding this correctly?

I think they would truly have oversight if Ryan was actually a republican.
But since Ryan refuses to support what Nunes needs done, Nunes doesn’t have the support of the majority in Congress that I -think- he needs to actually do any enforcement.

I -think- he only has that much power because of all the GOPe in congress that pretend to be on our side while stabbing us in the back.
Without them, he would just be replaced when he acts like this.
Despicable, for sure,

“Crime Labs Under the Microscope after String of Shoddy, Suspect and Fraudulent Results” ~ ABAjournal.com

The FBI has been proven to have provided false evidence in fingerprints, ballistics, fibers, hair, drugs, DNA in hundreds of cases and blatant cover ups in JFK, MLK, RFK and 9/11. This Elitist crime enabler cabal has been corrupt since 1924. Congress must DEFUND the FBI until all corrupt administrators resign.

Here Judge Jeanine speaks with Rep Duncan Hunter regarding Gulftainer, CLUB K, Port Canaveral, Port of Wilmington, the Iraqi Jafar family –who worked for Saddam Hussein on his nuclear weapons program and his “Oil for Superweapons” scheme including the miniaturized nuclear implosion device known as “”BEACHBALL”..

Obama awarded the Jafar’s Gulftainer a 35 year lease to Port Canaveral without the required CFIUS review. Dr. Jafar Dhia Jafar was declared an enemy of the U.S. in OIF.

Dr Jafar was put on Centcom’s “Blacklist” as a legitimate military targetvwanted for capturebor kill.

The same outsourcing of our ports to terrorists has happened at the Port of Wilmington where Gulftainer leased the entire Port of Wilmington for 50 years:

I actually think and hope it is part of their plan, as long as they pull the trigger on the Reclassify thing they are golden now.
If Pres. Trump just declassified months ago he would have a tsunami of obstruction of justice calls louder than the report. Who knows what road blocks that may have created, he needed to use the obviously lying CI community to help build his popularity and independent empathy for his situation.
He now has Congress asking him to de-classify it, people now want the open truth on what is going on. Plus with the added time the IC has even further tarnished their PO phony image and the report will solidify what everyone saw build through their defiance the past few months.
Now when this drops it will have the power to remove Mueller, hence why he is transferring many of his fraudulent investigations to NY prosecutors to continue after he is removed, he knows it’s coming. Plus their will be the support to re-open the past investigations these guys botched.
But this is only good if they actually de-classify and not fail, that is where so often we are left wanting with Republican group.
They could re-claim America if they would just stand up with President Trump and denounce the obvious deciet of the Democrats. Probably is too many of them are on the take and not real conservatives.

Agree. The US public is watching, learning over this past year – just how corrupt, self serving, and political are the FBI and DOJ. The faith this country had in these two institutions is gone for 2/3rds of this country. Research #WalkAway

How does opening up previously hidden (classified) documents to sunlight result in “obstruction of justice”…just the opposite is true. A form of obstruction is the over classification of information…declassification of information is the opposite of obstruction.

I agree with your comments but the media and democrats would push that the the integrity and ability of Mueller doing his job is now infringed because of some sources and methods would be assertained from the IG report and should remain hidden to allow for a proper investigation even if the other items are bad. They would push PDJT knows this and his of reclassifying was to obstruct mueller

Canada, the Dems and msm can push all they want.
With, what, 70% + of people not trusting them, who the he!! is going to listen to them?
I believe if polls were taken, as to people’s attitude towards this “investigation”, they would demonstrate that people are in favor of bringing this nonsense to a close.
Trump tweeted out last wk, that the “investigation” has been found to be ungrounded, so many already are aware of its illegitimacy.
Its ab time Mueller’s investigation was terminated, and I seriously doubt that anyone would do other than heave a sigh of relief.

Donald John Trump is a master of branding. He understands the value of building a brand, protecting it and exploiting it. The ‘POTUS Trump’ brand needed to be built for the American people. I think that his what he is doing.

At the same time, he is creating a negativebrand for his opposition.

As the positive ‘POTUS Trump’ brand gains ground, and negative branding on the opposition also gains ground, POTUS gains more room to maneuver in the psychic/media battlespace.

Perhaps instead of eliminating the FISA court, as has been suggested on this site, Trumps team may need to use it to collect the missing parts to this complex puzzle….IMO, currently there are enough facts on the table to issue a FISA on Strzok, Page, Andy, Comey, Awan, Weiner and GPS….

Well, since a FISA has to be issued against a non-US citizen (thereby allowing surveillance of connected US citizens through the “hops” thing which IMHO is a travesty of the 4th amendment), in my non-lawyer opinion, it actually could be justified on the abundant evidence that every one of the people above colluded with foreign entities to bring down a sitting president. Which entities? Why, all those 5-eyes people – starting with Christopher Steele and the Australian dude.

Canada- interesting comments. We’ve all bantered about on this board about elaborate this or that, but your comments seem very logical. Trump has to be the one to declassify.
I think with that agreement it just becomes about timing then right? Hopefully timed for max impact for midterms. However, it’s been extremely damaging to his presidency and to the draining of the swamp. I’d be glad if he did it yesterday and I’m guessing they’ll be hundred of new gems to keep the public’s attention along the way.
Ex: remember all those declassified documents about the Doj? They just fired Rosenstein. Or they just fired sessions. Or they just prosecuted Sztrok.

The daily wins could be more fun and wonderful and be 2-3 Times a week….

We need some of this “tarnish” thrown on the MSM et al too!
Without their constant feeding of the beast, most of this would have cycled out by now.

In those doc’s he should declassify for all to see, I am sure there is a “strong sprinkling” of LEAKS of CLASSIFIED info that could be used for a “tar and feather” base before self-immolation!

Let’s see…. 3-week cycle of 1/2 life…sooooooo….looks like 3 or 4 tranches of doc’s – with lots of pre-planned/scheduled hearings in between….a little bit of coordination should set a nice stage for the 2 months leading up to Nov 1st….ie: Sept/Oct….Drop the MSM in the boiling oil early…say Aug/Sept… allow time for arraignments and pleading to be covered….before following up with the first tranche of “hot-steaming documents”… Check-6

bh, do remember that the “no bias” conclusion, while present in the Summary, was not validated by the body of the OIG Report.
Two different things.
This was best illustrated by some giving testimony revealing they had not actually READ the body of the Report.
The criminals referred to the Summary, while the White Hats referred to the body of the Report.

Washington, D.C. (Nov. 4, 2016)—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings and Rep. John Conyers, Jr., the Ranking Members of the House Committees on Oversight and Government Reform and Judiciary, sent a letter calling on the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice to conduct an immediate investigation to determine the source of multiple unauthorized—and often inaccurate—leaks from within the FBI to benefit the presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[…]”

SO was the FBI BIAS in favor of ” the presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[…]” The answer to that question is a resounding NO!!!

Does anybody think is strange that all these fake dirt on Jim Jordan came out a few days after his confrontation with.Rosestein???????? Does the DOJ/FBI had nothing to do with this release of actions of 20-30 years ago. Rosestein did point a finger angrily and threateningly at Jordan during their exchange at the hearing.

A thought for everyone to ponder: Donald Trump has never–to my knowledge–invoked in public the name of Carter Page or George Papadopoulos! He has freely and publicly blasted all the other players in this fiasco, but not them. You have to let this sink in for a second!
The only explicable reason is that he knows they were both FBI informants, and does not want to divulge this information publicly YET!
In fact, what the DOJ is seeking to hide from the public, and are very likely to succeed at it, due to disclosure limitations and restrictions, is that Carter Page was both, at the same time, and in the same matter, the target of a FISA warrant, AND CIA/FBI informant POSING AS THAT LEGITIMATE TARGET! Not exactly cricket!

Carter Page at least has all the ear marks of a long time CIA ‘asset’ That is why he was SO upset about being outed by the media as the FBI informant ‘Male-1’

—- Oh and the Russians LOVE to use US journalists as assets BTW which may explain WHY Page was outed. Now Russia has reasons to exclude him from visiting or restrict him. “A 1941 internal KGB summary report broke down the occupations of Americans working for the spy agency in the prior decade. Twenty-two were journalists, a profession only out numbered by engineers (forty-nine) and dwarfing economists (four) and professors (eight).” pg 145 — Spies The Rise and Fall of the KGB in America, Haynes, Klehr, and Alexander Vassiliev.

Manic Emissary says @ July 3, 2018 at 11:12 am“With respect: Brian Ross is Reporter #1 within the indictment (Ali Watkins #2) and Ross was terminated for his work/leaks on the Carter Page material (for which Wolfe is being indicted) NOT the later Flynn debacle. Yes they were both terrible, but Page’s identity was classified at TS level. Disclosing his credentials is FAR more serious, which is why you also see FBI employing a full operation including SIGNT and HUMINT to contain spillage from Wolfe.
SEE HERE: https://twitter.com/Messer_America/status/1006610465873543168 —–
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Back to Carter Page as a spy.
From Politico“[…] Podobnyy was employed by Russia’s foreign intelligence service, the SVR. Putin was the former head of the SVR’s domestic counterpart, the FSB. Podobnyy’s mission was to recruit Americans and to collect economic intelligence. One of his SVR colleagues was Igor Sporyshev, who was working covertly as a “trade representative.” Neither man was aware that the FBI had a bug inside their SVR office…..

Sporyshev’s biggest headache was finding Americans willing to become intelligence sources for Russia….

The Russian spies, however, had one promising lead. This was a guy—an energy consultant based in New York City. Unlike the women, he was eager to help. And, it appeared, keen to make money in Moscow. There was a drawback: The source—whom the FBI called “Male-1”—was something of a dimwit. [A good cover if you want to spy]

PODOBNYY: [Male-1] wrote that he is sorry, he went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back. I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am. Plus he writes to me in Russian [to] practise the language. He flies to Moscow more often than I do. He got hooked on [the Russian state energy company] Gazprom, thinking that if they have a project, he could rise up. Maybe he can. I don’t know, but it’s obvious he wants to earn loads of money.[Another bit of bait for the Russians]…..

…..When he[Carter Page] is nervous, he grins. One person who met him around this period described the encounter as “excruciating.” Page was “awkward” and “uncomfortable” and “broke into a sweat.”

Page’s résumé was curious, too. He spent five years in the navy and served as a Marine intelligence officer in the western Sahara. During his navy days, he spent lavishly and drove a black Mercedes, according to a friend from his academy class, Richard Guerin.

He was smart enough to get academic qualifications: fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, master’s from Georgetown University, a degree from New York University’s business school. And a PhD from the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London….

Page responded by angrily accusing his examiners of “anti-Russian bias”.

Page’s apparent Russian sympathies were evident from much earlier. In 1998 Page spent three months working for the Eurasia Group, a strategy consulting firm. Its founder, Ian Bremmer, later described Page as his “most wackadoodle alumnus.” Page’s vehemently pro-Kremlin views meant that “he wasn’t a good fit,” Bremmer said….”

This is the guy who helped plant a notebook with a bug on a Russian he hoped to do business with???

Hi Guys – Most of you don’t know me, but I’ve rented a space on one of the oldest branches of this tree since the treehouse was built, but haven’t been an active commenter here for the past couple of years due to potential conflicts with my boss’ politics (I need to keep my job for another 18 months), but I do check in almost daily. That being said, the volume here means I can’t even keep up with all the comments, so I beg your forgiveness if the subject I bring to the table has been sufficiently addressed in previous threads:

Since the crap allegations emerged about Jim Jordan last week, I have been doing mental gymnastics over the history of what has happened to “the good guys”. For those of you who are newer tenants, I have been politically active in Montana politics for many years, and because of that, I have had the opportunity to meet and converse with several of the current players including Trey Gowdy, Louie Gohmert, and some vocal senators as well. When Trey announced his retirement, it struck me as very strange, to say the least. I visited with him for about 1/2 hour in the fall of 2016 when he was in the state stumping for VSGPDJT with Ryan Zinke (my hero!) and the man is not a quitter – and he’s not a black hat. But he is a very dedicated family man. It takes you about 22 seconds to figure out that he holds his family and friends as his dearest blessings. I seriously wonder if the Swamp – through the eavesdropping, spying, whatever – didn’t come up with something that they are using to threaten him and, similarly, others who are retiring at the end of this term.

What I’m saying, is we can see the pattern with Nunes and Jordan, because the attacks are directly against them, but I am coming to believe that many other loyal patriots are being subjected to very real, serious, albeit hidden, threats against them or their loved ones.

Anybody else thinking along these lines – or should I go get my tinfoil hat?

I have thought much the same. All of the eavesdropping the Obama administration was doing was not for naught. Remember when HillBilly were in the WH and they accumulated FBI records? We have seen how weaponized both the FBI and DOJ have become under 8 yrs of Obama with many of the HillBilly holdovers still there. We also know that Obama attained power by finding dirt on opponents. It makes perfect sense that they are using that info now whenever they find it useful. Jordan, Nunez, etc. all must be right over target and the left in fear that their corruption will be exposed.

Auntie Lib, There are so many questions about so many but we shall soon see many of our questions answered in public in pure daylight. My disappointment on the outcome of the Benghazi hearings and noticing Trey’s purple tie he wore while making his announcement in January would likely qualify me for a tinfoil hat though.

In the words of Richard Feynman, “I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.”

“Defeated Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton is not about to «go quietly into that good night». On the morning after her surprising and unanticipated defeat at the hands of Republican Party upstart Donald Trump, Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, entered the ball room of the art-deco New Yorker hotel in midtown Manhattan and were both adorned in purple attire. The press immediately noticed the color and asked what it represented. Clinton spokespeople claimed it was to represent the coming together of Democratic «Blue America» and Republican «Red America» into a united purple blend. This statement was a complete ruse as is known by citizens of countries targeted in the past…

The Clintons, who both have received millions of dollars in campaign contributions and Clinton Foundation donations from Soros, were, in fact, helping to launch Soros’s «Purple Revolution» in America. The Purple Revolution will resist all efforts by the Trump administration to push back against the globalist policies of the Clintons and soon-to-be ex-President Barack Obama. The Purple Revolution will also seek to make the Trump administration a short one through Soros-style street protests and political disruption.[…]”

I have a suggestion for the tin foil hat. Use it to line the grill!! That is what I have been doing with my Tin Foil Fedora for a while now.
If I remember correctly, Sen. Feinstein let the proverbial cat out of its bag when she began complaining that the CIA had “hacked” her computer. Perhaps a “gentle reminder” of who was Really in Charge of the “government”.

The most bothering part of your post is that you have to be mindful of your remarks for employment related issues. (“…due to potential conflicts with my boss’ politics…”).

So no longer is it the “Unseen Hand” providing “gentle reminders” to those in “powerful positions”, it now comes down to people like you and I. Toe the company line or toe the unemployment line, you choice.

Thank you for your part in providing this forum. And I wish you luck in the final years in the “9 to 5” world.

The use of blackmail and personal smears goes back to the Clinton’s immediately seizing 500 FBI background check files of Republicans when they started Bill’s first term. To the best of my knowledge, no one ever admitted to hiring Craig Livingstone. The Obama admin simply built up on that idea of using FBI/DOJ as a political weapon. I wouldn’t be surprised, if Sessions is being blackmailed with unmasked communications dirty laundry.

squid…you are forgetting who is President.
Trump did not spend decades of his life waiting to address the filth he has witnessed, only to let this opportunity for redress escape him.
I do not think this will end well for enemies of the USA.
I do NOT know how it will end up, but I’m pretty sure it will not be fun for the treasonous and seditious criminals.
I do agree with those Treepers ,above, that actions from the Executive Branch will likely take into consideration the mid-term Elections, although I do not know how or when.
I am ok, and in fact am in an anticipatory mood, with waiting to see Trump’s actions unroll.

It unfairly would take personal sacrifice and some would lose so much possibly the worst things to lose. But not much different then a military family sacrificing for the country we need these good senators to continue the battle and serve their country with the truth. Otherwise no one has freedom anymore, we can support them more and be louder about sunlight on the issues. Some like Nunez and Jordan are trying and deserve our highest respect, others like Paul Ryan I believe are to scared too or have succumbed to either bribe or blackmail, get them out of the way. It is a tough decision to risk your life and family. If somehow they would all come together or with majority at least, come out and restructure and solidify with the subsidiary branches of government that they are not the boss. The US citizen is. This can be won, but they will not give up lightly, it may be deadly but they have not had an opponent quite like PDJT. The few they have they have removed or tried too but slowed down. Problem for them now more of us know better now and tell each other easier. But they still are trying to create a cover for assassinations by crazies, by installing the hatred for their opponents in the media and as public knowledge. Easier to say this is a horrible tragedy when half the people believe half the country would look the other way or understandable it happened because of the state of the country’s emotions.

Sometimes I don’t understand all that I think I know.
Here is what I think I know.
-That the FISA court appears to have been compromised and is no longer capable of providing the required safe guards it was intended to provide.
-That Carter Page being a “star witness for the prosecution” in one breath and in the next “an individual acting for a foreign entity” the next is a bit difficult to comprehend. When I studied up on Mr. Page (with much help from those here) the premise that he would be a “threat” was difficult to comprehend.
-That the daily revelations of how the “Trump Dossier” was obtained would seem to show that it may have began as a “simple political tactic” but turned into an instrument used in the attempt to nullify an election. The goal of the nullification being the furtherance of the plan to turn America into a Socialist country.
-That these “contradictions” have been reviewed by the appropriate Oversight committees and conclusions similar to ones I have reached have been presented (with the exception of the Senate Intelligence Committees). But somehow, no punitive action has been taken against those shown to be key participants in the plan to nullify the election an then to render the President unable to implement the policies that We The People elected him to do.
-That shortly after the election, Adm. Rogers briefed (and perhaps provided hard copy evidence) of the plot against him and his Administration. Armed with this information, the President seems to have been able to hold those that advocate for his ouster somewhat at bay and go about implementing the polices that he promised. But as the attacks against his supporters (the people); those within the Administration (Flynn, Sessions, Pruitt, Sanders) and those very few in the Congress that actually support both We the People and the President (Jordon, Nunes, Meadows, Gohmert, Grassley(?), Inhofe) the information that Mr. Trump may have is not being utilized to prove the false nature of the attacks and expose those who would end our Constitutional Republic.
-That President Trump offered an “olive branch” of sorts to the Congress of not seeking further investigation and/or prosecution if Mrs. Clinton in return for ending the Rigged Witch Hunt” and allowing the legislative process to go forward.

Quite frustrating that, if I am correct in my understanding, little is being done to punish those who more than deserve an extremely severe public trial.
That sense of frustration appears on the face and in the eyes of those like Mr. Nunes. Having exhausted the “ways and means” provided by the Constitution to provide redress for these grievances, he now calls upon the President to utilize the tools at his disposal to provide the Redress that so many of us are calling for.

I agree with those that believe the President will bring his Office to bear after the upcoming elections. If as we expect, a number of more supportive representatives will be installed and make it a bit less “traumatic” to identify the “Plot”, those responsible for it, and to have those individuals tried for their participation and abuse power.
If the elections do not go as expected, then the information would be used as a defense against the certain call for impeachment. Does not matter that there is no actual basis for impeachment, but Maxine would finally get the spotlight she has so desperately wanted.

In response to those who invoke patience, so of us have been “patient” since the deception of 1986. Still waiting on secure borders, and policies that protect the national interests rather than the bank accounts of the “Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen of the Congress”.

Wouldn’t a cynic think that the FISA warrants were legitimate since Trump has not declassified? And wouldn’t said cynic think that maybe Trump is holding out until November 2018 in the event that congress flips and his excuse is that Democrats control the House? I’ve not heard anyone ask Nunez what happens in the event of a congressional flip. Don’t rely on what you don’t know. Time is running out.