Some people become instant friends. Kelsey Chapman is one of those people.

I was honored to be invited as a guest on Kelsey Chapman's Radiant Podcast. As a fellow "dreamer & doer," Kelsey is doing a lot to impact the world and her enthusiasm is contagious.

We covered a lot of ground in this conversation - from starting a nonprofit to how to balance ALL the things of being a mom, wife, and executive. Mind you, I'm not an expert on this topic - just someone in the trenches trying to figure it out right alongside you. There's a lot of laughter, a lot of vulnerability, and a lot of laying stuff on the table. This may be the first time I publicly revisit the first major wave of criticism we received after starting True To Life Ministries. While incredibly painful, hands-down one of the best learning experiences I've ever had. We ended the convo on the topic of marriage and what it's like in a household where both adults are in full-time ministry.

I would love for you to listen, and I know Kelsey feels the same. And...stick around for the episode following mine. I was excited to see it's with my friend Kat Armstrong of Polished! She's amazing!