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Who cares how many home runs Gardner has, he isn't a power hitter. Which is fine.

If you think he sucks, then Nunez sucks too. Nunez doesn't have better numbers; in fact, most of his numbers are worse then Gardner.

Again your basing your argument off home runs. And now RBI? Lead off hitters and 9 hole hitters aren't your RBI hitters, they are guys that get on base. Create a base steal threat, which Gardner does better in those two categories as well.

Having a sports debate is useless because you bring absolutely nothing to the table other then your hate for Brett Gardner which is making you biased.

Nunez has a whopping 5 home runs in 338 plate appearances
Gardner hit 7 home runs with 558 plate apperances.

So Nunez hardly has more power.

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

Yeah, he can't hit the ball out of the infield so you say, yet he had 19 doubles and 8 triples and 7 home runs in 2011. I guess those weren't hit out of the infield?

That was your argument yesterday when comparing Gardner to Ichiro.

I'm just going to ignore you, you really have no clue. You have nothing to back up any statement you make.

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

No one is arguing potential. But Gardner is the better hitter, regardless of what anecdotal arguments you back it up with. He's also an ELITE defensive player and Nunez is below average. So until Nunez actually figures out how to play baseball at the MLB level, he's not going to start on an MLB team.

and your also going to tell me that you rather have Gardner up in a clutch situation over Ichiro??

Personally, I would. You're looking at the best 2 months Ichiro has had in the last couple of years expecting he's the guy of old. Ichiro isn't that guy anymore. And while he's clearly a much better player than Gardner in his prime, Ichiro is in pretty significant decline now. If you paid any attention to him over the last 2 seasons you'd see he's fading as fast as ARod.

No one is arguing potential. But Gardner is the better hitter, regardless of what anecdotal arguments you back it up with. He's also an ELITE defensive player and Nunez is below average. So until Nunez actually figures out how to play baseball at the MLB level, he's not going to start on an MLB team.

above average fielder ELITE?? no way sorry, can't give him that.. all I'm saying is that Gardner reached his peak and it's not promising, hey i'd rather not have him, Ichiro start at all, but with our budget now, we have to deal with it..

Personally, I would. You're looking at the best 2 months Ichiro has had in the last couple of years expecting he's the guy of old. Ichiro isn't that guy anymore. And while he's clearly a much better player than Gardner in his prime, Ichiro is in pretty significant decline now. If you paid any attention to him over the last 2 seasons you'd see he's fading as fast as ARod.

yes he is declining, but he's still dangerous.. has Gardner ever been considered dangerous? they intentionally walked Ichiro in the playoffs because he was hot.. would u ever intentionally walk Gardner in any situation like that??? how could you say that u would rather pitch to Ichiro in a big spot than Gardner?? that's an ignorant comment, however it's your opinion... me on the other hand, i'm pitching to Gardner all day long

above average fielder ELITE?? no way sorry, can't give him that.. all I'm saying is that Gardner reached his peak and it's not promising, hey i'd rather not have him, Ichiro start at all, but with our budget now, we have to deal with it..