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Alright, this was unconstitutional... now what? Can we get to the bottom of why a guy dressed in normal clothes can arrest you just by saying he is a cop? If he had punched this guy out, would he have been defending himself or assaulting an officer? Is saying that he's an officer all it takes for someone to simply do as he says?

It was ruled "fruit of the poisonous tree" meaning that the 'cop' was in the wrong.

Not to be confused with a County ABC Law Enforcement Officer (yes they are two totally different things, that do the same thing... one has county, one has state jurisdiction)

Badges different? it's a rather irrelevant point though as whatever "badge" it was, if it was there, it only made a milisecond of an appearance at waste level.

Let me ask you honsetly.

Would you tell your wife, daughter, sister, or girlfriend that if a man claiming to be a cop came up to them and claimed to be a cop but wouldn't show them his badge for more than a milisecond on his hip, and wanted to put them in handcuffs, would you tell them to submit or resist, flee?

Badges different? it's a rather irrelevant point though as whatever "badge" it was, if it was there, it only made a milisecond of an appearance at waste level.

Let me ask you honsetly.

Would you tell your wife, daughter, sister, or girlfriend that if a man claiming to be a cop came up to them and claimed to be a cop but wouldn't show them his badge for more than a milisecond on his hip, and wanted to put them in handcuffs, would you tell them to submit or resist, flee?

Honestly the most legit way for an LEO to ID himself isn't with a shiny piece of metal.

Most department's badges aren't customized to that officer. So it could have been stolen.

The BEST way to ID is with their Police Identification Card, which includes Officer's (Badge/Code #), Employee ID, Photograph, Name, Date they Started, etc.

Many departments don't even have numbered badges. Just a piece of metal, no two are different.

I agree the badges are often easilly faked, in fact I think many officers carry a fake one so they don't loose thier real one or somesuch. my point in asking though, is that in that scenario, at least for me, and where I am from, I would not have believed him to be what he claimed when he did the whole 1 sec flash thing.

And I assuredly would tell the womenfolk in my life to never go with a person like this or let him handcuff them. Ask for a supervisor, etc at minimum.