Namdrol wrote:Yes, those instructions are provided for Dzogchen practitioners of the most average caliber so that they can acheive full awakening by taking rebirth in each of the pure nirmanakāya buddhafields for a period of one hundred years each, and attain full awakening within five hundred years, never returning to samsara. This result is attained by doing rushan, actually. N

Why is it not possible to reach full awakening in only one Buddhafield?

Namdrol wrote:Yes, those instructions are provided for Dzogchen practitioners of the most average caliber so that they can acheive full awakening by taking rebirth in each of the pure nirmanakāya buddhafields for a period of one hundred years each, and attain full awakening within five hundred years, never returning to samsara. This result is attained by doing rushan, actually. N

Why is it not possible to reach full awakening in only one Buddhafield?

Each of the five pure nirmanakāya buddhafields corresponds to and is an external expression of one of the five wisdoms. For example, Sukhavati is an expression of purified desire i.e. the individually-discriminating wisdom.

Namdrol wrote:Each of the five pure nirmanakāya buddhafields corresponds to and is an external expression of one of the five wisdoms. For example, Sukhavati is an expression of purified desire i.e. the individually-discriminating wisdom.

Are there any other types of practices suited for practitioners of low capacity that result in full Buddhahood in lesser time?

Nighthawk wrote:Are there any other types of practices suited for practitioners of low capacity that result in full Buddhahood in lesser time?

You are under the impression that time is a factor in the Pure Lands? In Dewachen even the word "suffering" does not exist so of what relevance is time there?

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed GyalpoThe Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

You two are absolutely correct. The Pure Land is a whole new dimension of existence completely unrelated to samsara. It seems like my deluded ignorant monkey mind will never truly understand the Pure Land until I get there.

How would the Pure Land of Heruka and Vajrayogini fit into the pattern ?

In this HYT system, 'Buddhahood' is attained through Inner Dakini Land and the Union of No More Learning, the union of the ultimate illusory body and ulitmate meaning of clear light. Would this equate to a Dzogchen practise with transmissions that does not require Amitabha or a need to learn in each Pure Land as described hitherto?

Blue Garuda wrote:How would the Pure Land of Heruka and Vajrayogini fit into the pattern ?

In this HYT system, 'Buddhahood' is attained through Inner Dakini Land and the Union of No More Learning, the union of the ultimate illusory body and ulitmate meaning of clear light. Would this equate to a Dzogchen practise with transmissions that does not require Amitabha or a need to learn in each Pure Land as described hitherto?

No, not at all. Isn't this very difficult to do though? Why is Dzogchen considered to be a teaching for all capacities?

Blue Garuda wrote:How would the Pure Land of Heruka and Vajrayogini fit into the pattern ?

In this HYT system, 'Buddhahood' is attained through Inner Dakini Land and the Union of No More Learning, the union of the ultimate illusory body and ulitmate meaning of clear light. Would this equate to a Dzogchen practise with transmissions that does not require Amitabha or a need to learn in each Pure Land as described hitherto?

No, not at all. Isn't this very difficult to do though? Why is Dzogchen considered to be a teaching for all capacities?

It is a teaching for all capacities only in a very general sense. What we normally refer to as Dzogchen are only for those of the greatest capacity. It is all in the Yeshe Lama.

/magnus

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

Nighthawk wrote:Thanks for the clarification. That's the way I've always seen it. An elite club for the high capacity.

I would rather view Dzogchen as a teaching and approach that is eminently useful and beneficial for those able to make use of it. And one's capacity is not necessarily set in stone. There is the possibility of increasing one's capacity if one is both interested and dedicated enough.

Nighthawk wrote:Thanks for the clarification. That's the way I've always seen it. An elite club for the high capacity.

Isn't it great to be (allowed) in the company of such high capacity folk!?

"My religion is not deceiving myself."Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed GyalpoThe Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."The Supreme Source - The Kunjed GyalpoThe Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

I imagine common sense would say that diligence refers to actually taking the time to practice in a qualitative manner.

not to be lazy ...

Sönam

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.- Longchen Rabjam -