well we can all ways up the Cuck, get mr hary asshole in the gym to fuck said used to be aunt. that will spice things up. and make people argue just like this comment will. first will come the want to be insult "sick cuck fuck". can't really use a fetish line against someone with that fetish as an insult. it'd be like me calling you guys sick incest fuck. see it doesn't really work. except that it was so sick IT GOT BANNED LOL

I mean i dont like ntr but watching someone i dont love get fucked is not getting cucked. even if a nigger is doing it. Just like in something unlimited. The meta bordello isnt cucking because i dont love any of the women and neither does the protagonist. Like that would mean watching porn is cucking yourself.

they were your love interests and they got fucked right infront of you no matter what you did. you got cucked no matter how much your brain wants to explain it away with saying "but we weren't dating". it doesn't matter if you were dating the whole point of the game was to fuck them, they were already your from the get go and then someone took them away, you are a cuck if you got off to it.

If you are not new to this place you should have already understood the way cuckoldry work according to htg/hgg:

If there is another male character aside from the one controlled by the player, and/or some female character refuse to fuck the player or have not sexual scene implemented into the game (involving the player), then this mean the game is cuckshit. All the attention of the female characters must be focused on the MC. Walking in a lesbian couple while they are eating each other, and joining their fun creampiyng them both multiple times make you a double cuck. Stealing someone elses girlfriend make you a cuck.

The dick of the MC must be unchallenged and unquestioned. An absolute being with no rivals. An object of worship for all female characters in the game. Everything that derail from the MC's dick being the god of his universe make the player a cuck.

>So any game where you train a girl and she takes other cocks AKA Akabur's games is cuckshit. She's basically a public slut and not worth playing for. Like about 70% of the (((games))) here.

>A game where you are the sole male and corrupt the girls around you into only loving your cock AKA Rouge-like is good shit. You must be able to fuck the girl though, otherwise stuff like dating daughter counts and you never fuck her.

"the husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision."

"(of a man) make (another man) a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife."

Why y'all so fucking desperate for everything to be cucking? You're already watching someone else fuck girls, the MC isn't you and if you're attached to any of the girls you want him to fuck you're literally cucking yourself by this logic.

It's not cucking unless you're in an actual committed relationship and/or are married.

We get it, you don't like to share because you're big alpha manly men with the biggest veiny dicks in town, but that's not cucking.

BB was cucking if you let eric fuck your sisters and the aunt. that he fucked the mom is ok from a non-cuck perspective, because there was no romance before that, the mom was a bitch and also see above, mom-son is furry-level disgusting

polyamorous(?) relationships are not the same as cucking, because it involves actual romance with multiple people, there are gay ctriple couples where everyone loves (and fucks) everyone, and that is polyamorous, as well as polygamous relationships where a man has 2+ women or a woman has 2+ men. those examples are not cucking.

the classic cucking scenario is a couple (where both have romantic feelings for each other), and one of the two has sexual encounters with one or more people outside that relationship. They can be completely unromantic, and it is still cucking (and in that case entirely not polyamorous). Also, it doesnt matter at all if the couple got married before the cucking happens.

I didnt talk about casual sex partners aka FWB before, no idea how you get that idea. Or is every relationship that hasnt been cemented in front of the allmighty spaghetti monster "casual sex" in your eyes?

not really, the two things are not opposites or different states. a relationship can be both or none. polyamorous (pretty sure you spell that differently) describes the romance (dokidoki love) part, cucking is a sexual thing. well, cucking needs romance as well, otherwise its just people fucking around and no one cares.

So, who's going to go for the update when it releases? I'd like to see the new teacher content, but I'm not keen on losing the Aunt, Sister and Mother stuff since that's the only worthwhile shit in the game at the moment.

Could keep an old release to play them again but…really, this game lost my interest so hard after it became clear the fuckers dragging it out as long as possible and focusing on characters after the Mom/Aunt/Sis, that no one is interested in.

It is casual if there's no romance, yes. And I wasn't talking about you specifically, plenty people on this board demand something is cucking if any dude but the player fucks ANY female in the game, even if it's the players slaves that literally exist to be whored out as a core mechanic of the damn game.

So by your definition there people love to invent the romance side of it and claim it's cucking.

Plus they are implementing their Incest Failsafe for Patreon, as I said early, incest is so messed up that it is banned, :P. They were prepped for this to happen so they have to throw that in and add the new sex scenes.

because there was a scene in Rogue-Like Evolution by Oni someone unlocked on an android version that I cannot see ever again because I cleared my stash of old versions of games. (in rogue-like, it was a scene where the movie usher catches you two and you get kicked out or you bribe him with, time with rogue or money.)

im mildy surprised that actually got included, considering all that has been said here i was convinced it was already in the pipeline for years now.

seriously though, i couldnt care less about the characters. he should add the mom for good measure, maybe some good old fucking (with someone not her son) finally lifts her mood and gets her to wear something other than her bathrobe.

My personal favorites from all those choices would be "mia extended"/"dating" (same reason, mia best girl), then "rhonda/lifeguard" and "eve+co", in that order. "library/bookclub" could be interesting or complete crap, depending on what it actually includes. the other choices mean little to nothing to me, eroero wise.

Shut up, pathetic white knight. DC didn't have to comply with patreon. This is stockholm syndrome-tier bullshit and DC is a cuck for just shutting up and comply. His fanbase is large enough for him to start some shit in the scene.

>Patreon is now a "No Go Zone" now for Dev's making a Porn Game

Good. All patreon porn games were either an scam or shit.

>we need a reliable platform that isn't going to Bitch

>we

Kill yourself. The only thing this shitty scene needs right now is people with balls and a good work ethic that hates cuck shit. But guess what, you will probably not find that person on fucking patreon.

With a different platform no need for a shitty workaround patch, thats why DarkSilver aka Big Brother got banned, Patreon found him out because he was telling them how to patch it through Patreon's platform

He didn't have to comply. He could have left. He could have LITERALLY NOT TAKEN ANYTHING OUT and done exactly what IA did, still selling incest on their site. You're sucking his cock and complaining it's not AIDS-riddled enough.

Wow the Dumb-Fags are strong here, if you guys can't gasp the facts by simply Reading, I ain't going to teach ya!

No wonder I left this shithole, but by and means carry on believing your stupid Shit what else you going to do?

It's not like 4Chan made a ton of reports against DC to Patreon causing him to edit out incest for now, and when a actual fan of the game passes a copy the a patched verison of 0.15, I know you guys will shit on the Help then, so forget it, you can sit in shit for all I give a damn!

Im sorry that girls outside your family circle have cucked you so much that you decide that only your relatives would be willing to fuck only you (Though i guess you get cucked everytime your dad fucks your mom).

Sorry you lost the roasties you have as family in the game but im not going anywhere because im not jaded enough to think no incest=NTR/BLACKED.

There are much more characters that are more worthy than your roastie family.

You are a homosexual if you can only think of the one only gay character in the game. If incestfaggots werent hogging all the scenes there would be more variety of characters sex scenes by now. Obviously homosexuals like you dont want pussy but rather focus on one gay dude.

>There are much more characters that are more worthy than your roastie family.

But more than half the actual content of the game is your family or other forms of incest, like Eric's Mom. So the game is back to have so little content that is laughable. The game didn't went forwards, it went backwards, and whether you like incest or not, the fact that the game doesn't have content now is undeniable.

>You are a homosexual if you can only think of the one only gay character in the game

Actually, DC will make Eric fuckable, since it seems that after incest gay shit is the most voted during streams. So have fun with your gay game.

Thats because incest people decided to lead the game that way. Which is why that now more than ever SS will have more variety. The teacher's update will get things going forward.

Even if they make Eric Fuckable and that gym guy we still have Eve, Latinas, Hall monitor, Judith, Mia and her mom, Roxxy, the pizza guy wife, the lifeguard and Ronda, the fish girl, the succubus that won that poll, the aforementioned teachers.

SS is far from dead and its annoying that people declare it dead just because they wont get more content for the characters that already had shitton of it.

Considering they are going to be in the game anyway, it's still a gay game, and the thing is, there's cut content now, and if you do the math, the gay content now is more than the straight content. So have fun with your gay game.

>its annoying that people declare it dead just because they wont get more content for the characters that already had shitton of it

That's not the problem, idiot, the problem is that the game basically went down so much in content that it's ridiculous. Yes, there was enough incest content, but that doesn't justify cutting it.

Pic related plus DC said he already have more, but he can't tell because it would be spoiler, so here's the thing, faggots already have more scenes than most girls on the game, INCLUDING THE TEACHER UPDATE.

Again pls tell me this gay content you are talking about (Like a shot of MC fucking/getting fuck by a guy). And i dont care if a girl only has one scene, its still one more scene over the alluded gay content. Your math doesnt adds up.

a pic with the MC whipping out his dick is hardly gay, it happens all the time, and in all sorts of games. That there is a character who is gay also doesnt faze me, at least there is zero chance that he steals any of the MC's girls (which should be a totally safe concept with all the cucking allergies here).

So far there has been no actual gay scenes, and with the incest-related revamp i dont see where the devs will take the time to implement gay content. People have been screaming "muh, nigger-cucking" "muh, traps" "muh, faggotry" for eons, but so far nothing has happened. Even the pics you posted arent even in the game yet.

I can't understand why to make affairs with other men in an erotic game that is not intended for fags.

I have no hatred for homosexuals. I also don't usually get too immersed in the plot of the games. Even so, I don't want to "experience" an affair with another man. Even if it's a silly game, this is not cool, this is not the kind of experience that I and probably no other heterosexual wants when when playing an adult game.

If it is patron pressure, then DC is making a serious mistake. I have no doubt that the vast majority of his patrons are disgusted by this idea, even though they have not stood against it.

And the problem of homosexual scenes goes far beyond simply giving more opportunities to the player. If the author is creating a game that is not intended for the gay public, and even decides to make scenes where the main character engages sexually with other men, then he has no respect for what he is doing.

You do realize that's a drawing of MC sending a pic of himself with a soft dick to his gay friend, right? The problem is not the pic itself but what it is intended for. It's gay content even when on itself isn't gay.

>i dont see where the devs will take the time to implement gay content

But he will, specially since it already exists, see >>41022 and if he made it already, why the fuck he wouldn't implement it in the game?

>Even the pics you posted arent even in the game yet

<B-but it isn't gay yet!

But it will and you will be playing a gay game, faggot. I hope you enjoy fucking fat fuck in the ass while his mom is railed by some nigger.

Most of the gay content comes from literal faggots watching his stream and pushing him to write that instead of other thing. And I mean it, only like 40 people at best watch his streams, and he do shit based on the opinion of those 40 fucking faggots.

>If the author is creating a game that is not intended for the gay public, and even decides to make scenes where the main character engages sexually with other men, then he has no respect for what he is doing.

The joke didn't work because I don't play this game. I feel a natural rejection against MC's face, which I could ignore if all the top girls didn't have the same stupid appearance. This art doesn't please me at all, although I recognize that it is still infinitely better than games made with DAZ3D models.

No, it's a shitty amateur and unpretentious game that I do for fun but it ended up getting really big (80k words is a considerable amount), even so I spent only a few minutes (one day was a simplification) to make the whole story of incest with the sister and the mother in a new story. As I organized the Renpy scripts for characters, I basically just had to read the scripts of these characters and adapt the story, which is extremely easy.

Then I went in all the other scripts and changed all the mentions that the protagonist made about the sister and the mother, which was also easy too because I remembered all the mentions because I wrote the fucking script.

The fact that DC is taking so long doesn't make the slightest sense for me, unless his story has the depth of a book by Marcel Proust or Dostoyevsky…

Wouldn't DC have to change the look of MC or MC's family? If he doesn't, I hope he gets 'reviewed' by Patreon again and kicked off, so he can scrap all the shit ToS changes and do the game how he always envisioned it.

I'm not that dumb, I followed suggestions to put the game on Patreon and so I had to adjust it. Today I have about 200 patrons and I feel compelled to keep my page up because these guys pay (cheap because I'm not Jewish).

The chances of him needing to change the appearance of the characters is ZERO. The TOS refers to explicit things like the story making clear that there is familiar relationship between the characters. If the artist is bad and draws everyone with the same face, this does not mean that the game is breaking the rules. In fact, if you use this reasoning in Summertime Saga, then the protagonist's mother, sister and aunt are actually MC's clones with a wig and silicone implant.

The only case in which they ask to change the appearance of characters is when they look like children.

It's ironic that it's a shame that Patreon isn't even jewish enough to not shun entire genres worth of works that people have and will literally hand them money for. Wouldn't be the first time porn had influence on some tech-related industry.

>Triggered Nitwit: UGH. You support X? I'm boycotting Patreon.

>True Jew Patreon: [Sees X's patrons devoted enough to actually keep throwing money their way instead of turning at the drop of a hat for stupid reasons] k lol

Nah, using Patreon as a way to speed up production of a game is not to be Jewish.

The tiers I put on the pledges are low (I get 1/3 of Patreon's average) because I don't intend to get rich by exploiting porn addicts, I just want to have an income that allows me to make my game on my PC.

With the $900 I earn per month at Patreon, I can use my PC 100% of the time to make the game. Before, I lost a lot of time doing SIG maps that generated less money and gave me more work.

And finally, instead of doing subversive content where the player has women stolen by people of other races or engages sexually with homosexuals, I do a reactionary content where women only feel fulfilled when they serve an honest heterosexual man.

If you need to change YOUR product to please them then you are not doing it for your product or the integrity of it anymore. You're doing it for that sweet sweet shekel. Putting low tiers is just your excuse to feel better about crippling your product to get money because you're a fucking jew.

>B-but there's no cuck content!

Seeing how dishonest you are even with your own feelings I wonder how much that will last, not to mention you wouldn't be the first patreon dev that lies about it. Also, game with no incest = Shit.

>If you need to change YOUR product to please them then you are not doing it for your product or the integrity of it anymore.

It's an exchange, I made the changes to the game to be accepted at Patreon, so I can speed up production of it in several months. The patch comes later, as I said, it's easy to patch, contrary to what the liar devs claim.

>Putting low tiers is just your excuse to feel better about crippling your product to get money because you're a fucking jew.

You're reasoning like a jew and think that everything is motivated by profit.

>B-but there's no cuck content!

Cuck and homosexuality were examples that I quoted because you called me "jew" and this implies that I would be trying to subvert people who play my game, which is not true.

Yes, that's why I think Patreon is not beneficial to the adult gaming scene, I was discussing this on the DMD thread with a Mr.Dots fanboy and my opinion is that Patreon's system is especially harmful when the author earns more than he needs to produce the game.

This is the case for DC too, he earns 25k a month with Summertime, but I'm sure he does not even need 1/5 of this to produce an update (which by the way it will take 5 months to do).

In any case, not everyone views the situation in the same way. Personally I prefer to finish a project quickly and start a new one than trying to earn the highest possible profit of the same game. And even from the point of view of the market, I believe this is the best attitude to take if you have long-term concerns.

>But I need money to speed up the process!

Exactly. I made a maximum of $250 using the PC in my spare time before, and obviously making an adult game was not my priority. Now I earn $900 with Patreon because of the game and I not only have incentives to continue doing it as I have a moral duty to finish it.

>So far. You are a patreon dev. You already modified your project for shekels, so I'm sure you'll add cuckolding later and argue it isn't cuckolding.

You're wrong though. And there are differences in making an easily reversible modification and adding fetishes that will change events and personality of the characters.

Patch it later is the least Hebrew thing to do, genius. Because I'm going to miss the opportunity to have patrons who like the content of the patch. The content it will only be available when the game is finished, that is, when there are no more reasons for someone to do pledges at Patreon.

I don't know if you noticed, but this board is semi-abandoned and there is no more real criticism, just a parody where users keep repeating "cuck" and "jew". If you want to try to keep away new users to avoid contaminating your board, I'm sorry to inform you, but it's too late for that.

Of course, that's why I have thousands of patrons, giving me a small fortune! Because of an incest patch whose only advertisement I ever made was an anonymous board and they do not even know what I'm going to do.

Come on guy. I know Patreon's devs are not trustworthy, but I think you're exaggerating a bit.

And this discussion is completely irrelevant. This all started because I said I had a project of +80k words and I adapted it to the new TOS in 1 day (in fact it was a few minutes and I explained why it's so easy to do this if you have the least organization in the scripts). That's the important information here.

20 minutes? Nah, man. You gotta play the game all over again and discover how to play the new stuff locked behind shitty game design remember when Mia went in the laboratory and the game give no fucking hint that she was there?, also 20 minutes? more like 120 minutes just for the lockers! The lockers, dude! Each one for each fucking student for no good reason, can't wait.

I'm also curious about that. The interesting thing is that even if the update is disappointing, it will guarantee between 500 and 1500 new patrons in a few days. While in the business world devs suffer from the consequences of not meeting the hype, in Patreon's world a late and disappointing update guarantees even more money to be buried in the project.

My money's on it being 97% till wednesday,then it becomes 98% until friday when it's released,i'd say next monday but i don't think they're brazen enough to do it,it's obvious enough that the progress bar is BS,they need to retain some semblance of it being reliable

In theory 1.0 should be used for a finished product. And everything above are supposed to be bugfixes and additional content. But every dev have their own way. Some don't even care and just add some number just to say "yeah i updated something".

Sam9 the web developer for SS has been working on a patreon download system, basically when the game is released the patreons will have access to this download by logging into the Kompas website to download the files from a high speed server(because usually MEGA crashes when DC releases his game on their servers lmfao). Yay money.

0.15 is almost ready for release and is just a matter of days away, as we wrap up our bug fixing. In the meantime we'd like to introduce a new patron reward for those who pledge and support us on all tiers.

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The new reward will allow you to access a unique private download link on our website by linking your Patreon account here:

The private download will be the first accessible link to our updates (everyone gets the game on same day, but this will be the first one accessible), and it will have a fast download rate.

*Note that this new reward feature will be tested with this release, which means it may require some improvement/adjustments but it is something we plan on keeping in the long run for all those who support us.*

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I'm also planning on adding further rewards for those supporting us in the near future by allowing patrons to have an inside look into how the progress/tasking is doing during development and more!

Thanks for supporting us and again I'm sorry it took so long to push this update out with the unexpected series of events surrounding Patreon guidelines. I will be posting the update (along with the changelog) as soon as we clear the last QA testing (soon!).

Don't worry, you still get to fuck your TENANT WHO IS NOT RELATED TO YOU BY BLOOD and look at the tits of OTHER FEMALE TENANT WHO IS EXPLICITLY OVER THE AGE OF 18, once you sign the necessary paperwork. And view the art they removed from the upcoming updates once the game is finished 7 years from now.

You know people use more their phones than computers nowadays, even for porn. Also, with a phone you can masturbate on a public toilet, on your bed and even in public if your stealth skills are high enough.

I actually tried playing it in bed on my phone, it's more trouble than it's worth. You literally don't have enough hands to hold a phone landscape, use the touchscreen on it and then wank off at the same time. Not to mention that unless you have a 13" phablet, the screen, while uncomfortable to hold, is also going to be too small to see anything or hit buttons properly. You need something with the size and form factor of a laptop at least, at which point you'll be running Win/Linux/Mac anyways.

I don't even know how you CAN break break saving on Android, and on Android only. As far as I know Ren'Py uses the same files and code for saving data the exact same way on all platforms, unless it's a really obscure bug that hasn't been found yet (or they're trying to do some wacky shit like DDLC and write directly to a file or something).

lmao I last checked this back in January - decided I would stop following it for some time to come back to a decent amount of new content, only to learn DC hasn't released fuck all in this time??? That's fucking unacceptable unless there's like 12 high quality long sex scenes in this update

They dont even ban spammers.all they care about is money and since the already got it they dont give a fuck about finishing the job.by the way the longer it takes the more money they earn from patreon.they could release the game in feb 2018 but they got to earn 3 month worth of free patreon support.

how the fuck is it not out yet? i swear it was at 99% like 4 days ago. does DC not have a sense of urgency or what? hes been working on this update for over 5 months, and cant even think to himself 'maybe I should really hurry this up, they've been waiting a very long time" nope lets milk this last 1% for as long as we can. i will never understand patreon backers, especially this ones backers.

>hey guys heres a google document, please list all the bugs that we happened to gloss over while bug testing for a week! sorry again, get us to $40k per month and I'll hire another coder for the next update in 6 months!

I have bad news for you, pal … Patreon blocked the page for a few days and forced the authors of the game to withdraw incest. So it is likely that after these 5 months you have less content than in January hahahahhaha.

I fell sad for the people who donates money to this scammer and for new people who still donate to him even if he did not launch anything in 5 months..

DC scams really easy…

*He never gonna find another artist because he never looks for one (if he finds another artist the updates will go fast and he can;t milk his patreon for another 10 years "The real reason" )

*He hires part time coders from india or other low wage country or worst he hires friends who basically learns how to code now (he never gonna make save compatible because they don't know how)

*He lies about what he is doing..(he says he is gonna make update just for 2 teachers then says it's gonna be for 4)

*His last goal is a joke one not even him expected to go so far in the 30K money zone

*This is no longer a passion project for him because he renounce the incest in game with no real fight(says he will add it last again but that will be in 10 years …And don;t say a good guys will patch it back in the game ..he will not update for 10 years what is the point to put it back if it's gonna be the same)

*He know patreon will review him someday ..but he did not prepare for it …(just said he will delay the release because of the big surprise)

If DC will make a book about how i scam the incest loving comunity for 10 years i will buy the colectors edition of it …

He feeds on your misery, and converts it to raw currency. For every day that passes without an update, his power increases. Soon, he will grow large enough to consume Patreon itself and create a black hole made of money.

Do you know what is funny? You don't have to do anything for the save to work between different versions. To break the save in Renpy, you need to rearrange the entire structure of the code in an absolutely retarded manner.

If you don't rewrite the code structure doing stupid things like taking pieces of code from one file and putting it in another, and if you set the new variables to "default", the save will continue to work.

Not sure if that's the case or if it's a change from previous versions because I haven't been following this game for that long, but that's honestly pretty much the standard for Patreon funded games at this point.

To be fair, his average per patron is low compared to other devs. But this doesn't justify much, after all, the patrons had to wait 4 months so the last update of it will cost about $12 per patron, which would put him among the biggest jews of adult content creators.

The way patreon cucks let themselves get fucked in the ass is one symptom of a decaying society and the gaming industry as a whole. This is why shit is going downhill. Id wish those Patreon dev faggots/ e-celebs etc. would get what they deserve.

Dont mistake pure disgust with envy anon. Not everyone needs or wants the neetbucks dc is receiving on a monthly basis. There are people who still believe in a higher morale and ideal and they couldnt give less of a shit about his income.

I dropped the game when this bullshit started. It was legit one of the best games out there half a year/a year ago, with plenty of content and frequent enough updates, but the crap with shitty coders and taking longer and longer to update the game without a decent reason (it sure wasn't for the amount of new content). I only really shekeled in about 4$ in those few months but fucking hell, I can't imagine how people can still support this shit. I can understand new supporters, since the game has plenty of shit, but you're better off dropping the money on games that actually update their shit monthly (or even twice per month sometimes), at least you'll know why you're dropping your money on it

Ok, i got into the game with cheats mode (and is so much better, the minigames/grind always was a hastle to do). I only saw Mrs. Bissete scenes, finished my fap and will only return in a week (fucking no fap).

I can really see why people pay for his patreon, even with the artstyle (that is so much better than dazshit and is not that bad at all people say), the writing is good and i felt hooked the whole session, it was worth the time.

God damnit, I was already working on one myself. Probably for the best, because they moved around 90% of the files for no reason.

Is this one supposed to be semi-official? The patch more or less just does an overwrite on everything with the old dialogue, so it's not a "fan_mod.rpy" type deal the developers clearly left a loophole for. The "censorship" is actually fairly thorough, they even changed the filenames and things like handwritten notes with "mom" on them in the game.

Oh…for some reason I'm so retarded that I didn't even register there's incest between other characters…

Eh, I kind of don't care. I've played so many versions of this game that the characters are ingrained in my mind anyway, if the incest patch has a chance of fucking the code up and corrupting shit, then I'm just not going to bother.

Most of it doesn't make sense anyway like yeah Erik has a hot milf friend he fucks, sure.

Like I said, they were pretty thorough. She's also referred to as "mrsj" instead of "erikmom" in the game files, in case the Patreon gestapo decides to go through the code.

I wasn't really invested in the game to begin with, so this is overall a net positive for me. Now I get to enjoy the incest equivalent of "six year old girl who's actually a 1000 year old ancient goddess so it's totally okay, trust me", and follow the adventures of a 21 year old middle school student who lives with a hot MILF for absolutely no reason.

Oh my fucking God why does this update try to force you in to touching that fat ugly fuck Judith at every turn?

Fuck right off, she's disgusting. Bitch won't come out the toilet unless you let her homeless hands touch your dick and you need her for the flute and the French dictionary and I bet she's necessary for other things too.

Fuck that.

That's without a doubt worse than MC being cucked, who wants to fuck a pig.

I still have no idea if the patch was actually released by the devs themselves, or just some guy quickly editing the dialogue. It was uploaded about 5 hours after the game itself and it's a buggy pile of mess that uses different code from 0.14 AND 0.15, so could be either way.

It is, but it's implemented in a really fucking weird way. The patch basically takes all the labels (chapters, story pieces) with an incest-related character in them, re-implements those whole scenes under a new name (intro_dialogue, intro_dialogue_patched) with the old dialogue in them, and changes the "jump to this point" function to always jump to the ones suffixed with "_patched" instead of the regular ones. So when the game tries to load a scene where you mention that you have a random girl living with you, it loads a different scene instead where it's changed back to "my sister". I have no idea why.

The weird part is that the scenes in the patch are different from the ones in the normal game, OR the pre-censorship game. It's closer to 0.15 because they have the replay functionality added to them, but they use the old dialogue combined with completely different code for things like adding items to your inventory or loading shit (as far as I can tell they both effectively do the same thing, so there would be no reason to change things to get the patch to work). My best guess is that the content of the patch comes from a version of the game before or after 0.15, where a few things are implemented differently. They basically released a patch from 0.14.9 or 0.16 for the current game, which I'm guessing is why it has about three gamebreaking bugs in it so far. Or it's made by some random Russian dude who also changed half of the code to his own homebrew shit for some reason.

Well look like I'm fucked, when I buy the pantie from the sister for 100$ it doesn't get into my bag-pack and I can't give it to the gym guy, but I can't buy another one , anyone know who to unlock the situation or spawn a pantie or idk ?>>40010

That's what I thought so at first, but some of the dialogue is actually from the new version. There are scenes that don't appear yet in 0.14.5 that the patch covers, and changes that were made in 0.15 that are also present in the patched scenes. I think what happened is that they made the patch before 0.15 was finalized, forgot about it for a while and then made a bunch of changes to the game which were mostly compatible (directly adding something to your inventory versus calling a function that does it), so they just went "fuck it". It effectively downgrades your game to 0.14.9 with incest but more bugs in it.

They also didn't want to patch the files directly, probably because distributing it as an .rpa without having to extract or change anything is more elegant, and you can't add/remove whole new lines of dialogue with the translation feature (I think). The downside though is that unless they're using some kind of automated system for this, they'll have to manually copy over any change they make to the game into the giant mod file as well. Which will result in missing spelling fixes at best, and gamebreaking bugs at worst.

It's Ren'Py, you can set config.developer = True to get a console or rewrite the whole game if you want to. Given DC's work schedule, that could actually be a good idea. If it's something obvious you might just have to type "some_variable = 12" or "jump hallway_scene_2" into the console to get around it.

im fully fucking convinced that the week they spent "bug-testing" was them just fucking jerking off. you literally cant complete debbies/moms route because whenever you try to grab the towel from the bathroom it doesnt add it to your inventory.

Disclaimer, I haven't been using Ren'Py for longer than a week and I have no fucking clue how it works internally. I think there's some way to create a new .rpa that overrides everything and enables the config.developer option for you, but otherwise the method I found that works reliably is to find where the devs DISABLED it, and simply change that. In Summertime Saga's case that should be /game/(scripts.rpa)/scripts/core/system/options.rpy:2. I'll try to write a full tutorial in a bit, in case someone is interested in taking apart the game files.

It wasn't that terrible, but it's just not 4 months of content. There's plenty new things, but the biggest problem is the amount of bugs and the fuckers started fucking up their grammar. I get that some russian or spanish cunt using google translate fucks up, but I'm fairly certain that most of DC's team are from US, which makes shit like "alot" fucking annoying, especially considering at least 100k went for this update. If you're taking that amount of money you should have some proper quality assessment team

After fucking around for an hour with trying to make a version of scripts.rpa that gets picked up by the game without vomiting errors all over the place, it turns out that simply making a new script with the priority set to 999… works just fine, for some reason. So here's two scripts that might be useful for some people, you can use either or both of them at the same time. You need to extract the .rpy file and put it in the /game/ folder inside the game. That is, the folder literally named "game" inside the folder of the game (e.g., "C:\Users\John\Desktop\SummertimeSaga-0.15.1-pc\game", and NOT "C:\Users\John\Desktop\SummertimeSaga-0.15.1-pc\"). They should work fine on all platforms, though I only tested them on Windows. No promises.

This one sets config.developer to True, which enables the developer menu (Ctrl + D) and the developer console (Ctrl + O). The console is basically like a RenPy version of Python's interactive mode, meaning that you can paste lines of code from the game files or write your own things "live" without needing anything special. You'll probably want to use the jump command (jump roxxy_shower_dialogue) and variable editing (milking_unlocked = True) most often. Other than that, everything should continue to work as normal despite the dev tools being enabled.

unlocker.rpy

I figured this would be cleaner than uploading 100% savefiles or making a mod that adds "skip to this scene" menus. It unlocks everything in the cookie jar shit for your persistent save data without touching anything else, so you can use the scene viewer in the main menu and play the game normally at the same time. Unless the game is spaghetti code and playing scenes sequence breaks the whole thing, I honestly have no idea. Back up your save folder just in case.

I also decided to just upload the whole game with the files decrypted, in case people want to rip the images or look at the game code. If you want to do it yourself, all you need is Python (2 or 3 should both work), and two scripts by the name of "rpatool" and "unrpyc". Extract .rpa-s with "python rpatool.py -x file.rpa", then decompile .rpyc files with "python unrpyc.py filename.rpyc". There's also a batch script on f95 called UnRen that should do all that automatically if you're not familiar with command line shit.

Since this is Ren'Py, you can also just play the game from the decrypted files above, it makes no difference. You can swap out sprites or edit the script and write your own fanfics if you like. Also, if you can't open the PNG files in "images", that's because they aren't PNG files, they're actually WebP. Drag them to your browser or get an image viewer that can display/convert them. Why are they still named PNGs, because 30 thousand US dollars.

The second one is you seeing her through the telescope mid-day on her exercise ball. The third one is when you tell your sister you want to spy on the neighbors and you see her getting eaten out by Erik before you go down on your sister.

Yes, it's been confirmed a million times in this thread alone that the incest is only temporarily written out and when the game is finished, he'll relrease it with all the proper nouns returned to their original states.

In all honesty, I would stop supporting it and support smaller patreons that have promising games and regularly update the game instead. Incestral Awakening comes to mind (not sure if they'll continue the game now, though), but personally I'm doing Peasant's Quest, since I'm into that shit. As far as I'm concerned, someone posting regular updates with decent content deserves more support than this game and your 1$ barely makes a difference when someone makes 30+k per month. There are plenty of other games that sadly don't get anywhere near as much support as they should.

As far as SS is concerned, it's still the same game, the guy just says "Debbie" instead of "mom", so you can just pretend it's that. Judging by the amount of fuck ups this update had, though, I'd consider pulling my support, if I were you.

A new bugfix patch is out, by the way. The incest mod hasn't been updated yet so it's now even buggier (according to the site an update to it should be "coming tomorrow", though).

0.15.2 Changelog and Bug fixes:

- Fixed Erik sneak into school block when there are no ticks left. - Fixed not being able to ask Debbie where to get paint if you have paint already. - Fixed the magazine items to show how many you have completed already. - Fixed the robed dialogue appearing during the day instead of during the sneak mission. - Added a dialogue for Ross at the end of her story while in the classroom. - Added a hint to the librarian for the poem book quest. - Fixed Invisa-Woman. - Added a reminder to get the shovel before you can work in the garden. - Added a skip option to the music minigame if you fail 3 times. - Fixed an error in the science minigame if you clicked a 4th ingredient before it could finish. - Added dialogue for Coach Bridget when she is in her office. - Fixed Jenny's panties not being added to the inventory even when paid for. (Rip off Jenny)

Even if you copy your 15.1 saves to 15.2 and then delete them and go back to 15.1 anyway it still somehow fucks 15.1, I'm having the mother talk about Diane and having a name check for her hours in to the game, already seen that bitches tiddies twice…

That could be an issue with the way Ren'Py handles saves, namely that it backs up everything to a separate folder and uses those even if you remove your original save files. Try going to %AppData%\RenPy and deleting everything with "SummertimeSaga" in there, and then copying back your original saves to the 0.15.1 game's folder. (That's on Windows, on Mac they should be at ~/Library/RenPy/ and in ~/.renpy/ on Linux)

You know, I actually really don't mind that the incest has been "removed"

The whole concept of living with hot thirsty bitches you can conquer is good enough really, I just wish the art was in some way adjusted so that they weren't obviously family, as it's jarring to the new content style

If this was a game about being in college trying to fuck your room mates rather than being a kid trying to fuck your family, it'd be pretty great

Also damn that Mrs Bissete scene

I was expecting to get cockblocked and only get a hj scene at most

The Okita scene is kinda…shit

Not tried the nigger or Mrs Ross' yet

Also it's funny when MC is having dreams about fucking his totally-not-mother even though he's already fucked two of his teachers and is on the way to fucking half the town

Holy fuck, DC is actually a fucking invalid. The 15.2 hotfix adds MORE bugs. Because one of Okitas filenames was incorrect I couldn't progress and when 15.3 came out, spaghetti code means that I can't use old saves. For the sake of one period, there goes two hours. Thanks DC, you absolute fuckwit.

To be fair I think DC either takes most of that anyways, or he should. Of the 8 people he pays, one of them does "HR", one of them manages the discord, one of them is responsible for "sound and music" (I'm pretty sure the game uses stock assets, or at least it sounds like it), two of them do "dialogue and posing", and he also has two coders who rewrote the whole fucking game to be more OOP for god knows what reason and fix each others' bugs.

The largest amount of people being paid a full salary that would make sense to me for a project like this is 3, DC doing the art/writing, a "technical artist" doing boring graphics work and one guy who's an actual programmer working alone, writing as little code as necessary.

I think he's reached the point where people are giving him more money than he knows what to do with, due to the popularity of the game. It's just people giving 3 dollars on average, but there's more and more of them each month so it adds up. He doesn't even have a goal left on his Patreon anymore, I think it's just "I'll do a stream shirtless lmao" or something.

To some degree, yeah, I guess, but even after it's removed I don't mind doing Diane/Debby/Jane quests. The problem is amount of bugs this shit had, I couldn't get paint for the guitar and would probably need to start the game, so I just used the unlocker to get shit in the cookie jar and watched the scenes there. Kinda wish I had saved the 4+h I put in this update and just did that from the start

The point is: a competent person can offer content as complex as this with only 5K, or maybe even with less than this. Like every successful project of Patreon, this is another pretentious game whose author collects 10x more than necessary and yet can't offer a bug-free shit or with simple functionalities like functional saves between versions.

>>Design systems and stats around specific characters with complex dialogue sequences to account for each new change in the story

>Complex

I'm sorry, what? How the fuck is Princess Trainer complex?

SS has tons of shitty minigames in it, Princess Trainer is just grinding events until you can get the whore to do something new. Literally most of the game is grinding, it's not fucking complex in the slightest you shill.

And the scope of the game is clearly far more than any of Akabur's relatively simplistic ones. Christ.

The main problem is that you can't just shovel money at something and expect to make it better. It's a common trap a lot of Kickstarters and open source projects fall into. If the guy in charge of that money is a hack who doesn't know how to hire people or manage time, you might as well just make a nice pile of cash instead, and burn all of it. There's also a cap on the number of people you can hire for a project and still get some kind of a benefit from doing so, "too many cooks in the kitchen" and all that. If you were to pay 70 programmers to work on SS for instance, you'd either end up with 65 of them sitting on their asses and not being able to do anything because it would be redundant, or all 70 of them constantly arguing with each other and SLOWING the progress of your game.

There's also the Google/Facebook problem you mentioned, when you have something that works fine but people keep giving you money, feature creep starts being a real issue. Which is how you end up with stupid shit like Youtube being redesigned for the 6th time.

At that point you're just making a regular game with occasional fanservice in it. Ironically, I usually find myself enjoying those games and spending 7-8 hours on the gameplay, while skipping over the porn aspect and constantly going "yeah yeah fuck off I wanna get back to finishing this first".

You could make a very good case for the story and aesthetics though, since those directly tie into the porn and your enjoyment of it.

One can argue that DC has more writing and more generic shit tier art crammed in but to argue about his code quality is fucking retarded since most of it is fucking trash and copy pasted and to top it all off

IT'S A FUCKING SHIT VISUAL NOVEL

SUMMER TIME SAGA IS SHIT

IT'S NOTHING

IT'S LOW TIER BAIT FOR 50IQ RETARDS WHO JIZZ THEMSELVES AT THE SIGHT OF MISSHAPEN TITS

So, with Miss Okita, when she's having you make the Faptic Engine and she sends you to talk to June… if you've already done the June romance and she's with Erik, you're fucked, right? Because it won't let me click on June anymore, it just pops up with a dialogue from Erik.

What are you talking about you fucking retard? When did I ever say SS is amazing?

It has a much larger scope than any of Akabur's completed titles, it just fucking does there is far more planned content for SS.

Literally Princess Trainer has 3 fuckable actual characters in it, meanwhile almost every female in SS, of which there are a lot, has or will have their own story line some of which will mingle with others.

If you've never played the game ever then yes it will give you some real good faps. Go to lewdpatcher and grab their patch if you want the incest however. But for me it was kinda meh considering the quality of the mom,aunt and sis updates.

All I want is to fug the buff girl with dumb hair. Having an ability to change her hair color would also be a plus.

Actually, I lied. While I do want that, I want Principal Smith and Annie content the most. I need to show my misguided uptight waifu the error of her ways and transform her into a sweetheart or a dominant alpha who makes Smith her bitch. Plus, I seriously want to find out the relationship between these two, because it has to be something close if Smith actually makes Annie go down on her sometimes.

Ren'Py is just a Python library, so it's perfectly possible to do that.

But hasn't the dev gone through like a dozen different "programmers" that they've hired to work on this already? Clearly programming isn't their forte because they need to hire someone else to do it, but evidently management isn't their forte either or they'd have hired someone competent by now.

can't even find a single image in the entire contents of the game, scoured it for a little while but nil, should mention i'm tech retarded except i know how to check contents and go to library and shit

No idea how it works on Mac tbh, you might have to go inside an .app or something. Try to find the directory that contains something like "archive.rpa" or "scripts.rpa", and put both the "images" folder and the .rpyc file from the incest patch in there.

As someone who has worked in a corporate setting, sometimes "cleaning up the old codebase" just becomes "making a different mess than the old codebase" because the people working on "cleaning" are at least as incompetent as the people making the original mess.

It's still a barely usable mess in the end, but management feels like they've done something so it just continues on forever.

I want to test this game just to see what his mechanics are like. But I don't want this latest version with bugs and no incest. Does anyone recommend an older version? I don't intend to play too much of this shit, I just want to see the mechanics that dev implemented in it.

14.5.2 (from December 20) was the last release before the Patreon bullshit hit, but I deleted it like a dumbass and the website doesn't archive old download links, so I had to track down the Mega link from sketchy Indonesian pirate sites. Seems like you've already given up, but here it is in case someone needs it for reference (like me). It has the old dialogue and everything except the scenes with the four teachers.

And yeah, the game doesn't exactly have any "mechanics" to speak of. There's a very basic stat system which makes you play the same minigame 10 times, and a very basic day/night cycle which completely breaks your immersion when the character you've been talking to a few seconds ago is also in two different locations wearing completely different clothes with dialogue options that are now suddenly unavailable.

It's actually surprisingly basic for a $30k game, especially given the (relative) quality the art and the infrastructure around the whole thing. I was legitimately expecting more from it. It's pretty short, too.

Holy fuck. I thought you were overreacting when you said that the game had a lot of bugs, but I already came across a soft lock in the first scene. The fat neighbor says we need to go to school, but the school is locked on the map.

It's usually not this buggy (I usually played through the whole new and old content without encountering any bugs), it's mostly this update being an absolute trash, not only because it kinda adds shit no one really cares about (barely any Roxxy, you know, the cover girl that's in the main menu, website, patreon, instead they add 4 teacher crap). Bugs would be bearable, but you need to start the game from beginning every time you patch it and fuck that

Well, I think I've played enough of this game. Maybe play again when it's released.

After having sex with her mother and sister, the game lost all meaning for me.

The tasks are usually long and don't bring any kind of satisfaction to the player. It's something like: go there, talk to him, get the item I'm going to tell you where it is, come back, talk to someone else, wait until tomorrow, unlock the scene.

And in the meantime there will not be any plot or character development, it's just a long-winded task to give you a false sense that you had to work hard for sex.

The development of the plot with the mother is well done, this I must admit, and it is the only thing of value that I found in the game. The one of the sister is well made too, but the fact that it had no charisma at all ruined the experience.

Without incest I believe that this game loses a lot of sense. No storyline can be interesting (for example, an English teacher and an art teacher). They are boring and totally bland.

Oh, and I played in fap mode, because being forced to do the minigames and making money is just too painful, which makes this game unbearable.

You have to find her at a specific time/location and THEN talk to her if I recall correctly, because SS is spaghetti code and each instance of a person is technically a different character. Same with getting Eve's art pad, there are 3-4 spots Eve could be in and she only gives you that dialogue option when she's specifically in the hallway at noon.

I thought it would be interesting to see a religious milf start to get horny and beg for the cock of the protagonist.

But that wasn't what happened. The DC text is pretty mediocre and she keeps repeating those nonsense of purification and shows no real feeling of being horny.

In addition, the designs and animation of her sex scene are bad even when we consider the Summertime's standards.

Finally, an anon wrote above that Mia was crying in the hallway while we fuck her mother, but that's not what I saw, she just asks what we were doing in the house, the protagonist gives an excuse and the scene ends.

I also think this was the main factor for SS success. If we look at another game that was very successful, Dating My Daughter, the only thing it has in common with Summertime Saga is the theme, the rest is quite different, however both authors were practically pioneers and now they collect the rewards.

However, the Summertime Saga still has the advantage of having a relatively interesting formula, although very flawed. Games inspired by the SS tend to be more successful.

I disagree. The Mafia threat should culminate into the protag meeting the boss, who turns out to be a busty female. There should be a handful of different options here, from working with Mia's father and getting her taken down, or to fucking your debt free from her.

I can personally attest to having seen both numbers. I posted the screen with the 35k one and it changed pretty much an hour after that. Graphtreon shows the same. Again, I doubt it's some kind of (((conspiracy))).

Every new month value drops because Patreon can't process all payments immediately.

All pending values disappear until Patreon manages to collect.

And many people give up at the end of the month too, because in Patreon you can make the pledge on day 1, download everything that the author makes available and cancel the pledge on the 30th, to repeat the procedure infinitely until you are blocked by dev.

I think it got even worse. In fact, I find it funny that DC uses this character as the "propaganda girl" of the game, since she is the character purposely unfriendly (both in personality and appearance).

If you look veerrry closely, you may notice that these women look slightly more feminine now (and slightly less like they were slammed into a door recently) with the effect of having a bit more approving/less sceptic looking expressions, and their clothes fit their tits a little tighter. Oh, and also the button things on the blondie's waist are blue now.

I don't agree that the game "has no content", has a moderate amount in my opinion, but this picture doesn't prove much.

Most faces there have very few events.

The game has about 8 hours of gameplay, but probably about 6 hours the player will spend walking around the map looking for items to click on or seeing the same events and texts being repeated for the thousandth time.

If I'm not mistaken, I unlocked it by finding her in the kitchen and making all the events available there, then meeting her in the garden and talking some shit and making a gardening event that is almost completely broken.

Only really good events of the game. If all events kept the same quality I would have Summertime Saga is a good game.

> Sister:

95% boring, 5% cool

> Aunt:

Totally retarded.

> Fat boy mother:

The Yoga part is idiotic, but overall the events are acceptable.

> Mia:

Boring as fuck

> Mia mother:

Garbage

> Orc girl:

Garbage x2

> French teacher:

Not funny, but acceptable.

> Black teacher:

On the limit of being bearable

> Chinese assexual teacher:

I think this teacher's events best portray what the Summertime Saga is all about. It is the perfect example of mediocrity. The events of the asexual teacher are mediocre from beginning to end, in every aspect, from creativity and humor to drawing and animation.

Conclusion: The game has only one good thing that is the relationship between the boy and his mother. The rest is an ocean of mediocrity with many bugs and a total inconsistency in the immersion of the game. You find the same character in several places at once, doing different things, it makes no sense at all.

The sister situation is a close second for me. It would be better if the sex scenes were better, but I really liked the way it built up into the night fuck/shower scenes, especially with the overpowering part. Theres just not enough variety here, and a lot of potential for awesome things. You should be able to put it in her butt by now, or get a blowjob, etc. The sister situation would be really awesome if they had it gradually change the dynamic to where you are more dominant/in control, and basically end up doing all sorts of undignifying things to her, with your penis of course.

I like the mia sex scenes, but there definitely need to be MORE, a lot. Its very bad how it basically goes from "i like you but we cant do anything like that" to full on sex+anal with one change. There should be inbetween prizes, sneaking about places, etc. Theres so much room for sexy fun here.

I actually also really really like the asian teacher scenes, but again, needs more sex situations with her.

Everything else is garbage, though.

I'm also tired of waiting for the ability to fuck the yoga lady that you find the dog of. She has a very unique vibe which would be fun to have sex with compared to the others.

You all do realize that DC doesn't actually pocket $30K+ every month right? After fees and taxes, he might get 60% of that. It's still quite a bit of cash, but it's not anything near what people bitch about.

Not to mention that DC's patreon total dropped from well above $30K to well below $30K right before the Patron billing went out for the first of the month. That wasn't the $1 people fucking off that dropped the total like that.

Curse DC for looking out for his own best interests by removing the incest! He should have taken the high road and done something that would take a lot of work like set up his own funding thing somehow! Because then you could start whinging about how the updates were even slower!

Most of you fuckers don't even seem to care about anything other than the number of animations of fucking anyhow, so what do you care if MC is fucking his mom or just some old broad?

Making a porn game isn't going to get you anything but experience. It's not like you can put it on your resume ffs.

The rage and tears from the dumbasses who cry about a gay scene are so hilariously tasty. It's a game about watching a guy with a big dick fuck bitches that worship his big dick. You're fapping to a big dick. It's okay though, I still believe you think you're totally straight.

Wait! Maybe that denial is where all this pointless anger and bitching comes from! Maybe you should fap some more to the MC's big dick some more to relieve that stress.

<inb4 "you suck DC's dick!" If I had the chance, yeah, I probably would. I'm unafraid to admit my oral talents work on both pussy and cock.

>Most of you fuckers don't even seem to care about anything other than the number of animations of fucking anyhow, so what do you care if MC is fucking his mom or just some old broad?

That's where you are wrong. First of all, animations are a waste of time and you could have more CGs with the time you invest doing a single animation. Second of all, incest is a big deal because otherwise I'd watch porn, and I don't want to watch porn.

>Second of all, incest is a big deal because otherwise I'd watch porn, and I don't want to watch porn.

Well, this faggot has more fun than you do wishing you could fuck your own mom, so I'm good with that, too. If you really can't find anything in the near infinite amount of porn on the net other than this game to fap to, I'm truly sorry for you.

The amount you see on the author's page already considers the tax rebate. That is the "pure" value that the author will receive at the end of the month, with only these two discounts:

- fee for money transfer

- dropouts

I have a Patreon and on average I get between 90-95% of the value that is written on the last day of the month. If the DC was 30k at the end of the month, then it probably got about 28.5k. And yes, the value dropped to 24k on May 1, but that does not mean that DC has lost all of this from patrons, it just means that Patreon has not been able to charge everyone instantly.

Well, then, I guess I sit corrected. I thought I'd made pretty good calculations, but they were based upon the number on the main Patreon page reflecting gross rather than net earnings.

It seemed like a safe assumption based on the wording on the creator section on Patreon, but my googlefu failed me when it came to trying to figure out what that number represented for certain.

Even with that though, I have to believe that DC is still not pocketing $30K a month by himself. There are other people working with him, and I figure they want money for what they do. If I understand correctly, there's a staff of six working on SS at the moment. If you split that evenly (which I'm sure it isn't, but the point still works), $5K/month or $60K/year is low to average for graphic design/game development work.

Now I certainly can't say that DC puts out the quantity of work that a regular employer would require, but for those of us who actually had to pay for it back in the day, porn was nearly always twice the price compared to, well, not porn. So, I figure that gives DC a bit of wiggle room.

Now though, I am actually going to fuck off to reddit because this was a fucktastic wall of shit text to post on an imgboard, and I admit it.

Well, he probably did not pay a lot of people because it was 4 months to the last update and he did the art and the text.

I bet his costs with the Summertime Saga are very low. The biggest cost is actually the time he spends with the project, since he could be working at this time. However, since his art is terrible, he probably could not get a job, so his time is not worth much.

In view of the market prices and the quality of the game, I believe the real value of the last update of the Summertime Saga is around $ 5k. As he has raised $ 100k, he is probably having a luxurious life right now, even though he is a bad artist.

And even if he pays for some slaves to do the game's programming, there's still plenty of money left.

As a developer, the amount of coding work in SS (including things like the website/Discord and the Patreon integration) takes two, maybe three weeks of light effort. You can literally do large portions of this shit in a day, and they've been working on it for over a year now. The most substantial part of the game is the writing and the art, which as far as I know is handled entirely by DC because he still hasn't hired a TA for the busywork. You could MAYBE make an argument for the two "posing" guys he has (who basically go through the script and insert Erik's talking sprite at this line, hide it here when he stops talking, show Debbie's sprite up to this line, etc.), but I still wouldn't allocate less than 75% of the budget on DC, since he does all the art, writing and directing (unless "dialog" means that the posing guys also write the script of the game).

It's clear he doesn't even want to think about messing with the complex part of the code. The whole game is inconsistent, the characters are in several places at once, doing different things.

This breaks the immersion and is a serious problem. If this persists in the game, it's because the producers decided that fixing the code would be a very big job and would generate more problems that would solve. And this is only feasible in a scenario where there are no programmers engaging in the game.

The game is amateurish and probably doesn't have qualified people working 100% of the time on it. Certainly the people who help the DC don't earn as hired employees, but only getting a commission for help.

We are not in a thread about other porn games or porn in general, we are in a thread about this shitty game, you're just mad people point out how shitty it turned out to be and how much of a massive incompetent Jew DC is.

Nothing of what anon said was a distinct section of a piece of writing, so the need of a new line was completely unnecessary, seeing how everything could have simple went into a single paragraph. Also, a paragraph can't be a single line, and when it is is shit writing.

This is a completely new topic, though: Fuck off back to Reddit. And I didn't had to leave a whole space either.

What is something that almost never fucking happens. Or something that others attempt to mod the censorship away.

>Implying 99% of western games don't have or plan to have it

And what about the futa shit, the scat, or other stupid fucking fetishes jap games usually contain?

>He doesn't know nip

I'm not a weaboo faggot. I know English, as this is an English forum so fuck off to some Jap forum with your shit jap games.

>Implying anything is worse or even more lazy than DAZ shit

I didn't imply anything. I flat out said that even shitty DAZ is better than the art form that is Anime.

>Kys SS shill.

Not a SS Shill as it's a shitty fucking game. I'm merely commenting on the fact that you're pissed that a shit game like SS gets all the money, and then go on to state that another shit game should be the one to get it instead. You could literally have picked countless other games as it's not hard to be better than SS, but you picked some Jap shit which is actually worse. Congrats on managing to pick something worse, that must have taken a lot of work.

We also have to take into account that the sensation of seeking for sex is usually more stimulating than the sensation that you feel after sex (which can sometimes even be somewhat depressing).

So if the game is creating expectations and making the player waste time doing useless tasks like Summertime, in the end the player will think that this is a good game because he got 3h with that stimulating sensation of who is striving to achieve sex.

A game with 1000x better art, text, animations, etc., can overcome Summertime in everything, but if sex is easy, the player will not experience that sex-seeking stimulating sensation.

Basically, the player will prefer to fight for hours against the bugs and against the incredibly stupid tasks to finally see a animation of 2 frames that seems to have been designed by a mentally retarded, if this has made him experience the sensations I mentioned above.

I think this is the reason for the success of Summetime Saga, since the text and the art are of a grotesque quality.

I mostly play Japanese porn games because they actually fucking get finished but yeah it can be damn annoying when you're enjoying a scene and then suddenly the bitch starts shitting or vomiting everywhere, which is usually a completely unannounced featured fetish because half the time that shit is "normal"

I prefer Western games on the grounds that I can read English and don't have to use one of them janky ass translators that somehow make the game harder to understand, more often than not.

I think they both have their pros and cons, personally I prefer Japanese art more because the designs are just a lot more sleek, I fucking hate Western porn that has dudes with like 15 inch dicks and chicks with oversized features.

But then the censoring in Jap games can kill it sometimes, especially if it's so bad you can't tell what hole a dick is going in to.

Wouldn't say one is objectively better than the other but you can't deny them chinks do some fine work in terms of production speed and quality, I've played hundreds of hentai games and not found many of them to be all that buggy.

To summarize, I'm bored as fuck and wanted to type some shit. Take that how you will.

That's really fucking bullshit because at least the popular games get fan uncensored patch, just like happened with Teaching a Feeling. Sure, the big majority of it don't, but that's because there are thousand of these games in dslite, for example.

Last game being the worst shit that have ever fucking existed. So your argument defeats itself. As for scat, that's rare even in japanese porn as it is in western porn, so I don't see the big deal.

>Except I'm objectively right as I've shown

Except you're not. Anime drawing requires at least effort and skill, specially to look good. DAZ shit is just stolen assets seems all the fucking characters "done" in there look the same, plus they are ugly as fuck.

>Even the worst Patreon cash grab game is better than the censored

Stopped reading there. Even when censored they are far better than patreon cashgrabs, considering most of them don't go past v0.1.

>As the only people who use the "reddit spacing" argument are the people who lost the argument

Or they use it because you're a Reddit spacing scum? That sounds more likely, and that would be true even if you were right. Good thing you are not and you still are Reddit scum.

Yes drawing requires effort, but the mistake you made is in thinking anime looks good, it doesn't.

>Even when censored they are far better than patreon cashgrabs,

No, and I already explained why. Shit translations, censorship, stupid fucking fetishes, and often times retarded plotlines all make western shit, better. Yes western shit suffers from some of these problems too, but not all of them at once like most jap games do.

>Or they use it because you're a Reddit spacing scum?

No, it's because it's proper. The only one that sounds like they're from reddit here is the weaboo, anime loving faggot. You can't get much more reddit than that.

Sure, seeing how the bug majority of thousand of games lest around 100 or so uncensored, and they are better than any of this crap like, again, teaching a feeling.

>that shit plagues Jap shit

And it plagues western shit as well, as I proved, because the western scene is heavily influences by the japanese industry to the point they either use honey select models or RPG maker, both japanese, or use Ren'py, a VN game motor.

All in all, both are similar with a few key difference, like the fact that japs release games by the thousand and that western shit, as small as it is, is plagued with cuck shit. Also, scat isn't that common, and I dare you to prove it.

>but the mistake you made is in thinking anime looks good, it doesn't

Except it does look good and you can't really prove the contrary. Even if that wasn't the case, the simple fact that it takes effort makes it better than the lazy and disgusting shit that DAZ models are.

>No, and I already explained why. Shit translations, censorship, stupid fucking fetishes, and often times retarded plotlines all make western shit, better

You haven't explained nor proved shit so far. You say it as if western games don't have retarded plotlines or shit translation. See >>18404 and >>32638

Specially since the majority of the western scene is not even composed of english speaking devs.

>but not all of them at once like most jap games do.

Except almost all of them do. See the whole catalog.

>No, it's because it's proper

No it isn't. The same way it isn't proper to write a letter the same way you'd write thesis, because it isn't the same thing. You're kinda right though, the way you write it is proper, if this was Reddit, but it isn't.

>You can't get much more reddit than that

Of course you can. You can be a fedora contrarian that says anime looks bad with no proof.

Ahh, yes. The ultimate question. Well, the progress bar is showing an accurate state of development so you should keep an eye on it! We've done quite a bit of work so far, but there's still some heavy scenes/quests left to finish (Which we are working on and will be very good, I promise!). This update is slightly larger than the previous one, so it's too hard to predict exactly when it will be ready but feel free to hop on our Discord server to find out more!

Didn't you say you were switching to upfront payments?:

Yeah well, despite the majority of Patrons voting positively for the change (90%+), Patreon hasn't given us the option to switch to upfront payment yet (they won't reply to my emails, typing is hard). So that will be on hold for a while until we get access to it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How are the new Patreon rewards going?:

It's going great! Sam's been revamping our site layout to allow for all those new features/rewards and we're making sure everything will be smooth!

Here's some examples of what we're doing >>>

In-depth task tracker

New polls

The only thing holding these back from being used is that we planned on having them linked to the upfront payment method (read above) but we don't have access to that setting yet for some reason so… Anyway. We may release these rewards anyways until then but they really work best if we know people who have access to them are not spam bots and real Patrons supporting us. We'll update you on all that soon.

What happened to all the old video recordings of streams?:

The stream library on youtube had to be set to private due to being flagged by youtube too many times for inapropriate content. So we're going to be hosting all the video library on our site and not have to deal with YT anymore. It will be part of the new website layout and re-design!

Have you been adding new artists to the team?:

Yes - In fact we've been getting a lot of help with animation this update, and I plan on using an artist to help with some backgrounds in the future (after 0.16).

Are you adding new goals?:

Users have been asking for additional goals and it's been an internal debate as to where the resources should be allocated as we reach more goals. Adding more devs to manage doesn't seem to be the right course as I would end up having to micro manage the team too much and slow down my work output (and we're starting to hit a pretty good pace for update making). So, I may get an extra coder to begin work on the next project after SS. Get him/her to lay down a foundation for the game that won't require me to spend much time supervising and allows us to have a good base for when SS is completed. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this!

Love,

DC

(P.S. - I will most likely do less daily streams after this week in order to wrap up the update as the last remaining content to make is spoiler heavy and can't be shown during streams. Just a heads up!)

I can't believe this game still gets so much support even after the jew dev cucked to Patreon's demands. Literally the only good thing this game had going for it was the son - mother route. The brother - sister route had potential, but he decided to make the sister an insufferable cunt and locked all her scenes behind annoying tedious activities. We aren't even rewarded by being able to roughly fuck her asshole til she cries, which is the only point of making her such an unlikable character, for the eventual reward of being able to deliver pain to her anus, but nope, no reward. She's nothing more than a trash human being cam whore with a loose ass pussy from using gigantic 57 inch spiked dildos. The aunt is literally cloned mom but without the mother aspect or interesting route. The rest of the characters are so awful they aren't even worth mentioning.

What does this game even have going for it anymore? The only thing I can think of is it's unique artstyle(which I don't even think is good, but at least its unique). The """game play""" itself is awful, so it's really just a visual novel with content locked behind mind numbingly boring mini games. The faggot even decided to lock routes, forcing the player to play multiple times. Honestly fuck anyone who supports this garbage, these jew dev's need to be held to a higher standard but never will be because consumers are so thirsty with ridiculously low standards.