Again, dont get how they can term it terrorism yet if they dont know the motives.

Good point. That's always been my definition of terrorism. However, multiple people today added that because there were multiple explosives - the first smaller explosive used to drive the people running towards the second big explosive that also defines terrorism.

The first time I've heard of it but that seems to be why they are calling it "terrorism".

Everything we love in this country has been blown off by our supposed leaders for some time now. It’s terrible to be cynical, but I think it’s a natural reaction to being told that nothing matters, nothing sticks as if it is worth fighting for. A person can’t have outrage unless they believe in something, and we’ve had every cynical game in the books played on us. I think the feeling people are having is that if even life itself is just something to exploit for a political agenda, then count us out. Politicians and media, if you’re going to take us for a ride if we show we care, then we’ll just stare ahead and not make contact with you slimy carnival peddlers prostituting everything we love.

I don’t know the answers. I don’t like any of the options.

As much as I felt for the grieving families, I just didn’t want to even think about Sandy Hook because I knew it was being exploited for politics. And it’s hard to view ANYTHING differently than that, because the media people who are setting the narratives and doing the supposed reporting are all trying to take us fools for a ride. I think we don’t trust them and instinctively withdraw our emotions from their agenda.

It sounds cold. I don’t know what other response makes sense when there just isn’t anybody who deserves our trust.

I’m not going to joke. I just feel an empty spot in the pit of my stomach. But I want to be with others who “get it”, who understand how tired I am of having life and liberty deliberately trampled under by the foreign enemy combatant in our White House who then expects us to shed tears and jump on board his bandwagon so he can tear down even what’s left. They’ve told us this country is not our business, and I’m really tempted to say Boston is their problem; it’s not our business; any of the things that could have been done to make things safer have been shouted out by us for so long and we were told to shut up. It’s their bed, now let them lie in it. Just stay away from me and the people I love. Let us protect ourselves and just leave us alone.

Like I said, not something to feel good about, but it is what it is. And it’s all anybody will be capable of if the politicians and media throw away everything of value while telling us all to go to hell. You can’t muster up feelings when you’ve been forced to give up everything that matters.

I can’t even earn a wage without being forced to help subsidize somebody like that baby butcher Kermit what’s-=his-name. And they want me to be outraged over the senseless loss of life in this attack? I think if I was with the people I would feel for their pain. But when all I have is the media that lies with every breath, I don’t think I can do it. Or at least it’s a struggle.

I think we’re numb. Don’t want to laugh, and have forgotten how to cry.

The people on this thread want to place blame now and we have no idea what happened.

We need to FACE the fact that it might be a domestic extremist group.

You are correct. It could be domestic. Nobody knows yet.

part of the reality of living in the USA is that these things can happen.

Only if it's domestic. If it's a foreign terrorist the US State Department would be responsible as they are the ones handing out VISAs or Homeland Security's responsibility if the attack was done by an undocumented foreigner here illegally. Under these two circumstances such an attack can only happen if our federal government fails us.

Lots of Ahmed’s in that building..hmmmm..sounds Amish for sure..member of the tea party/sarc
If I were a betting person I would say this “person of interest” lives in that building. The reason why they keep on calling him a “person of interest” is so that he won’t lawyer up, at least that is what Kimberly Guilfoyle said..the second you name him a suspect he can demand an attorney and demand his miranda rights read to him

I’m listening to Boston police online. I’m sure they’re getting lots of tips but I just heard dispatch send an officer to an address of someone who says they have photos taken 15 minutes before the second explosion. Sounded as if there may be something of interest in the photo.

Try praying. to God as you understand him. Yell, curse, beg, plead, and repeat as needed. Do the next right thing- no matter what you fear. Prayer without action is dead. Find your faith. may God give you, exactly your heart

I just didnt want to even think about Sandy Hook because I knew it was being exploited for politics.

I know what you mean. Although I knew about the shooting as quickly as everybody else I kind of ignored that news to the point that until last weeks gun control fiasco I never actually knew what the term "Sandy Hook" meant. In fact I often confused it with the hurricane "Sandy" whenever I did hear the term. That's how out of touch I allowed myself to get on that issue. Just as you said, I also knew it would turn into a political circus, so I blocked it out.

I think if I was with the people I would feel for their pain. But when all I have is the media that lies with every breath, I dont think I can do it. Or at least its a struggle. I think were numb. Dont want to laugh, and have forgotten how to cry.

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You hit that nail on the head. Thank you, butterdezillion. That post deserves a thread of its own.

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posted on 04/15/2013 10:01:22 PM PDT
by Hetty_Fauxvert
(FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)

I, though, am not so numb as to give up on what this nation has to offer. Maybe it’s because I lived in other countries for awhile an I know how much I love this one.

Maybe it’s because I am relatively maybe younger...since I’m 43.

Maybe it’s because I look at my great niece and I think, “I want her to know the America I know.”

And we live in Illinois... but in the rural area.

In 2010...we voted for a Republican Senator and Congressman. I feel Kirk is somewhat of a turncoat now... but let me tell you ... when I was a kid ...even THINKING about pulling the lever for a Republican was UNHEARD of.

So... you listen to the media and they tell you that you are powerless... but WHAT DID WE ALL DO A MERE 3 YEARS AGO????

We put conservatives in Congress.

So while your post is excellent. I don’t want to hear it.

Today is my 43rd birthday. I was born on income tax day.

You and yours... you will PULL yourselves up by your bootstraps.

You will do what I do and call your representatives. You will write and send letters to your representatives. You will write letters to the editor of your papers.

We will NOT give up.

And maybe you don’t go to other places on the internet... but there ARE conservative voices out there. The Kermit Gosnell story IS reaching folks and even hard core liberals are disgusted by it.

And if the bombs left you numb today... watch the tapes again. Look at the Americans who were running and who TURNED AROUND and ran to the bomb area, without ANY regard for safety to help their fellow Americans in a situation that had to be absolute carnage.

If THOSE people can turn around and get blood all over themselves to assist people who were blown to bits.

The LEAST you can do is call or write your legislator about an issue dear to you.

The left has tried to do much to make conservatives feel like they are wrong, evil and powerless.

How do you think that is funny or relevant in any way? Grow the hell up... I know people that were crossing the finish line a few yards away went it happened.

Pathetic that people can’t restrain themselves from the same old tiresome immature crap that quit being funny years ago, it is really getting old that the first 100 posts are always the “comedians” posting the same old shit... get a life!!!

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posted on 04/15/2013 10:11:14 PM PDT
by PrivateIdaho
( "Courage is being scared to death... but saddling up anyway." (John Wayne))

If the media and the politicians would just get out of the way, Americans would pull each other up and take care of each other the way we always do. That is the America I know and love.

How do we just totally bypass the media and politicians and tell them we’re not listening, they’ve lost us, and they need to just get out of our way and let us take care of each other as best we can?

Happy birthday, Julia. You already recognize the gift you have, and that’s even better than getting something new. I hope and pray we can all work together to preserve that gift for all of us and for those who follow after us. We will fight, even when we barely have the strength to lift our heads and when we feel numb. The Lord works His miracles every day, and this country is not beyond His reach.

Instead, the threads are being cluttered with jokes and sarcasm, making FR a hard place to take seriously.

You're right, but since the election, America is often a hard place to take seriously.

I think we are just anticipating what comes next. After the suspect is apprehended, all the MSM speculation about him being a Tea Partier will have to go into the memory hole, which will require approximately 15 seconds. After that time, that speculation will have never happened.

If the suspect is a Muslim, there will be the usual mad MSM spinning, because NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS! and WE MUST STOP THE CONSERVATIVE REDNECKS FROM LYNCHING MUSLIMS! and ISN'T IT REALLY ALL ISRAEL'S FAULT?

This crime is horrible and serious, but the media coverage will turn it into a farce. Freepers are just one step ahead of the media.

The attack is being treated as a terrorist act because it involved multiple explosive devices, though investigators have not yet found any link to an organized terror group, foreign or domestic, said a White House official who asked for anonymity. Obama did not use the term terrorism in his televised remarks.

Federal law defines terrorism as violence to intimidate or coerce either the government or members of the public, according to the FBI website. The site chosen for the explosions, near the finish line of the race, provided maximum opportunity for television exposure.

But how do they ever see my middle finger? I don’t watch them and they have no clue I even exist. Their ratings are circling the toilet and they still don’t see those of us above waving them good-bye with a middle-finger salute.

There is a take-home lesson here. However this pans out, who’s directly responsible, and their motives, it can probably be said with a high degree of certainty that it will be somehow linked to liberals and liberal policies. I highly doubt it was someone protesting public school curicula, green energy, obamacare, the removal of God from public life, or gay marriage. If it was a saudi, connected to middle east terrorism, the left was complicit in getting him here with their insane immigration policies, lax enforcement, disarming the citizenry, and appeasement of islamic terrorists at every turn. They blamed “right wingers” from the get-go and need to wear responsibility for this like an albatross around the neck, long after the initial shock dies away.

The Romans had a phrase, which I cannot spell, (but only pronounce), so I will state its meaning: The outrage of atrocities are weakened only by their repetition. This has always haunted me. You are right, we are being weakened to a point of accepting the unacceptable. We are becoming interior people, afraid to speak up, to take a stand, and that IS unacceptable.

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