:This is interesting. There's nothing here for this page on the [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://orthodoxwiki.org/Ben_Lomond_Crisis internet archive] (dated November 18, 2005). There doesn't seem to be a Google cache for the page. There are three articles linking to the page, but Google's cache of those articles (on [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:ixZY2Qdg7FYJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Timeline_of_Orthodoxy_in_America December 23], [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:SykpLUe6-lcJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Philip_(Saliba)_of_New_York 24], and [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:XPou7Cbsh7wJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Greek_Orthodox_Patriarchate_of_Jerusalem_in_North_and_South_America 30] indicate that Google didn't see the page on those dates. It doesn't appear that anyone actually removed the page, or there would have been something in the [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Ben_Lomond_Crisis logs], so I'm baffled as to what happened. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 09:03, January 2, 2008 (PST)

:This is interesting. There's nothing here for this page on the [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://orthodoxwiki.org/Ben_Lomond_Crisis internet archive] (dated November 18, 2005). There doesn't seem to be a Google cache for the page. There are three articles linking to the page, but Google's cache of those articles (on [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:ixZY2Qdg7FYJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Timeline_of_Orthodoxy_in_America December 23], [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:SykpLUe6-lcJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Philip_(Saliba)_of_New_York 24], and [http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:XPou7Cbsh7wJ:orthodoxwiki.org/Greek_Orthodox_Patriarchate_of_Jerusalem_in_North_and_South_America 30] indicate that Google didn't see the page on those dates. It doesn't appear that anyone actually removed the page, or there would have been something in the [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Ben_Lomond_Crisis logs], so I'm baffled as to what happened. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 09:03, January 2, 2008 (PST)

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:: There is no indication in any of the wiki's logs that this page existed before it was created by [[User:JulianDelphiki|JulianDelphiki]] on Jan. 1st. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:39, January 18, 2008 (PST)

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:Under normal circumstances, there is no problem - although we are able to interchange, so to speak, because of our shared faith, not our origin. Firstly, I have a feeling that this article is somewhat less than balanced; secondly, disobedience to one's bishop can, under some circumstances, be grounds for excommunication. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 00:08, January 18, 2008 (PST)

:Under normal circumstances, there is no problem - although we are able to interchange, so to speak, because of our shared faith, not our origin. Firstly, I have a feeling that this article is somewhat less than balanced; secondly, disobedience to one's bishop can, under some circumstances, be grounds for excommunication. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 00:08, January 18, 2008 (PST)

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:: Given the nature of this article's subject matter (i.e., highly controversial and with most of the main players all still alive), there needs to be some third-party citations from reputable sources (e.g., historians, journalists, etc.), or else this should be deleted. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:39, January 18, 2008 (PST)

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This is interesting. There's nothing here for this page on the internet archive (dated November 18, 2005). There doesn't seem to be a Google cache for the page. There are three articles linking to the page, but Google's cache of those articles (on December 23, 24, and 30 indicate that Google didn't see the page on those dates. It doesn't appear that anyone actually removed the page, or there would have been something in the logs, so I'm baffled as to what happened. —magda (talk) 09:03, January 2, 2008 (PST)

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Hi, I read this article and was really interested in asking - If you belong to the Antiochian Church and do stuff from say the Russian Church or Greek Church (ie Byzantine style singing as opposed to something else) - is this valid grounds for excommunication? I thought that if we all belong to a 'Orthodox Church' then we are freely able to 'interchange' between them (ie celebrate at a Russian Church if I was Greek or vice versa) because we all originate from the initial Apostolic churches??? Vasiliki 18:55, January 17, 2008 (PST)

Under normal circumstances, there is no problem - although we are able to interchange, so to speak, because of our shared faith, not our origin. Firstly, I have a feeling that this article is somewhat less than balanced; secondly, disobedience to one's bishop can, under some circumstances, be grounds for excommunication. — edited by Pιsτévοtalkcomplaints at 00:08, January 18, 2008 (PST)

Given the nature of this article's subject matter (i.e., highly controversial and with most of the main players all still alive), there needs to be some third-party citations from reputable sources (e.g., historians, journalists, etc.), or else this should be deleted. —Fr. Andrewtalkcontribs 14:39, January 18, 2008 (PST)