If you're looking for well played, yet raw BM with some melodic lines, no keys, and some entertaining variation of tempi and good songwriting, yet with total undergroundish values (?) then please do yourself the favour and check out the mighty PREVALENT RESISTANCE's first two albums.
I think they combine the best of all the behexen/baptism/sargeist BM that defines the second wave finish BM so much.

shit I just remembered that the singer of Bethlehem replaced him. let's see how this goes.

Ugh really? The griminess of his vocals was essential to Hell Militia imo. That sample with the new guy isn't bad but it isn't the band that I got into either. Especially black arts of crime, fuck man, never play that song live again.

What is "pretentious" in Negative Plane? He did also asked for "modern-but-still-oldschool stuff built on strong riffs and played by proper musicians" and Negative Plane is IMO quite well executed with songs having more real riffs and twists than most other nowadays bands._________________

Kojiri wrote:

To buy lots of die hards, see them ebayed before you, and hear the lamentations of NWN.

rauta wrote:

I have this record and can someone tell me what it sounds like, please.

What is "pretentious" in Negative Plane? He did also asked for "modern-but-still-oldschool stuff built on strong riffs and played by proper musicians" and Negative Plane is IMO quite well executed with songs having more real riffs and twists than most other nowadays bands.

Good question. I've never seen anything pretentious about them at all. They're just a solid fucking band.