[link to www.truthnews.us] quoteObama is on the 17-member Senate Committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, where S. 1959 was introduced by Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) Aug. 2. “I will keep your important comments in mind as I work with my colleagues on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. I will work to ensure that this legislation helps to achieve our domestic security objectives while protecting civil liberties and constitutional rights,” Obama stated in his email to Justin.

Many scholars, historians and civil liberties experts say they fear that the proposed bill will set the stage for future criminal legislation that be used against U.S.-based groups engaged in legal but unpopular political activism, ranging from political Islamists to animal-rights and environmental campaigners to radical right-wing organizations.Jules Boykoff, an assistant professor of politics and government at Pacific University and author of Beyond Bullets: The Suppression of Dissent in the United States, told The Indypendent said he is concerned about how the government is broadening the definition of terrorism.(My comment This would include Home Schoolers)

“Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act is a law that created a new brand of terrorists, the ‘domestic terrorist.’ Under this definition, the civil rights work Martin Luther King, Jr. did could have been construed as an act of ‘domestic terrorism,” Boykoff said.802 [link to www.ratical.org] ABOUT HOME SCHOOLERS`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

Obama supports section 802 of the USA PATROT ACT, past and present. Home schoolers have been targeted in the past and present. His actions speak to all who have ears to hear.

Wrong, both are indoctrination, only difference if you homeschool your child you get to decide what they learn.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 662792

No, you are just as wrong. Education teaches how learn and think, indoctrination teaches what to think and how to submit to others "expert" leadership. Some homeschoolers are actually trying to teach our kids how to learn and process information and to think for themselves.

Not even the Amish try to home school their kids. They hire a teacher.

Of course, some home schoolers do a wonderful job. Most, however do not and just use it as means of control. In reality it becomes isolating and too many of the kids just waffle around topics.

However, home schooling does produce one result: it proves that education really depends on the parents far more than it does on the 6 hours or so the kid spends in a classroom for 170 to 180 days a year.

A kid can go to school every day but if he never picks up a book at home, he is at a disadvantage. If mama don't read, ain't nobody gonna read.

For the record, I homeschool my eldest daughter from the third grade on. She is now 18 and is in her first year of college, focusing on Asian culture (she can't decide if she wants to be a linguist or translator).

I am a tree hugging liberal who wanted Kucinich as my Presdient.

I agree that although there is diversity among homeschoolers, I can comfortably say the majority of them are Christian who homeschool for religious reasons. I can also say that I have seen many of these children and the do not socialize with others, even when given the opportunity to. Either they don't know how, or they are scared, or they've been taught something about "strangers" that I am not aware of. They stick very close to their parents and other siblings. They really have the mentality of, "Shun the non-believer!" Something very "children of the corn" about some of them.

The parents are far worse though. Some do not educate their daughters as much as their sons because they want their daughters to become nothing but submissive wives to rightgeous men.

For the record, I homeschool my eldest daughter from the third grade on. She is now 18 and is in her first year of college, focusing on Asian culture (she can't decide if she wants to be a linguist or translator).

I am a tree hugging liberal who wanted Kucinich as my Presdient.

I agree that although there is diversity among homeschoolers, I can comfortably say the majority of them are Christian who homeschool for religious reasons. I can also say that I have seen many of these children and the do not socialize with others, even when given the opportunity to. Either they don't know how, or they are scared, or they've been taught something about "strangers" that I am not aware of. They stick very close to their parents and other siblings. They really have the mentality of, "Shun the non-believer!" Something very "children of the corn" about some of them.

The parents are far worse though. Some do not educate their daughters as much as their sons because they want their daughters to become nothing but submissive wives to rightgeous men.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846391

How ironic that your liberal / marxist prez will do away with your right to home school. bank on it baby.

Obama Admin Terrorism Dictionary Calls Pro-Life Advocates Violent, Racist [link to www.lifenews.com] which the majoriity of home schoolers support. [link to www.truthnews.us] quoteObama is on the 17-member Senate Committee for Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, where S. 1959 was introduced by Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) Aug. 2. “I will keep your important comments in mind as I work with my colleagues on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. I will work to ensure that this legislation helps to achieve our domestic security objectives while protecting civil liberties and constitutional rights,” Obama stated in his email to Justin.

Many scholars, historians and civil liberties experts say they fear that the proposed bill will set the stage for future criminal legislation that be used against U.S.-based groups engaged in legal but unpopular political activism, ranging from political Islamists to animal-rights and environmental campaigners to radical right-wing organizations.Jules Boykoff, an assistant professor of politics and government at Pacific University and author of Beyond Bullets: The Suppression of Dissent in the United States, told The Indypendent said he is concerned about how the government is broadening the definition of terrorism.(My comment This would include Home Schoolers)

“Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act is a law that created a new brand of terrorists, the ‘domestic terrorist.’ Under this definition, the civil rights work Martin Luther King, Jr. did could have been construed as an act of ‘domestic terrorism,” Boykoff said.802 [link to www.ratical.org] ABOUT HOME SCHOOLERS`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

Obama supports section 802 of the USA PATROT ACT, past and present. Home schoolers have been targeted in the past and present. His actions speak to all who have ears to hear.

Quoting: nzreva

Amazing how children standing there holding a sign is considered violent, racist (they always gotta throw that one in for some reason??) and criminal actionsYet Dilate and Evacuate, Aspiration, and other types of murder being performed on the pre born is just fine.Did you know abortion is painful to the child being murdered?Makes me so mad I don't know what to do............

Homeschool your child if you can and do a good job; public schooled children are so busy getting'special' educations that they can barely read.

For the record, I homeschool my eldest daughter from the third grade on. She is now 18 and is in her first year of college, focusing on Asian culture (she can't decide if she wants to be a linguist or translator).

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846391

So now Asians shouldn't learn english?

"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

For the record, I homeschool my eldest daughter from the third grade on. She is now 18 and is in her first year of college, focusing on Asian culture (she can't decide if she wants to be a linguist or translator).

So now Asians shouldn't learn english?

Quoting: bed

Seriously, did I say that? Don't be stupid, or ridiculous. It's hardly like my daughter is would be the first linguist or translator.

Wrong, both are indoctrination, only difference if you homeschool your child you get to decide what they learn.

No, you are just as wrong. Education teaches how learn and think, indoctrination teaches what to think and how to submit to others "expert" leadership. Some homeschoolers are actually trying to teach our kids how to learn and process information and to think for themselves.

Quoting: ADEND

Not if they are teaching their kids that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that the story of Adam and Eve is literal and historical fact.

There is a third choice outside of private school, public school PLUS home school. As in go over schoolwork with your children and discuss reality versus fiction, encourage them to ask questions about the what, why, where, and when. Instill a lifelong thirst of knowledge and critical thinking skills by setting an example, because they won't receive that in pucblic school.

We pulled them out of public school due to the fact they were not learning even the basics.

My eldest son, whom is now almost 17, could not even read a full sentence when he was in 5th grade, even though they were giving him A's and B's in Reading. We worked with him at home, after school a lot... we had many parent teacher conferences where we would bring up his reading problems. They would not change anything they were doing. We later found out they were reading him all his tests and etc. We asked them to stop, but they refused. They need that good grade in order to get funding ya know.

That next year we didn't enroll them. I called the superintendent told them why they were not coming back. We talked on the phone for quite sometime. He could not tell me that we shouldn't pull them out of school, and he said he understood why we were doing so.

During the next year, my eldest was reading Steven King books. We are not religious, so religion is not a subject we learn... BUT we do talk about it.

Everyone that meets my kids say they are highly intelligent and are able to communicate with adults and other people better than most kids their age... and probably about 10x more responsible.

My eldest wants to be a park ranger or a meteorologist, he can't quite make up his mind yet... so he's studying both.

My middle son wants to be a herpetologist

My youngest is only 11, so he's still not sure yet..lol. Right now he would like to be his dad when he grows up.. at least do what his father does... which is 'climb huge tree's'.

They do get proper socialization.. we've never had a problem with them acting different kids.. they'll walk up to almost anybody and start a conversation.. but even adults they do this with really has a hard time keeping up with them mentally, because they are so shocked that kids their age can hold a conversation like that.

My wife and I home school (independently educate) our child. We expose him to a multitude of views that oppose our own conservative and Constitutionalist views.

That said, he is not exposed to some of the garbage that public schools offer. Not just the drugs and violence, but the indoctrination as well.

He's allowed to decide for himself what he believes. We in encourage him to question everything!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884674

I too have taught my children to question everything. I think that is an excellent teaching tool, and it's the one thing that a public education lacks more than anything else. Children are taught to question nothing. Accept authority blindly so they can be obedient, productive little worker bees. Thus, this is the true purpose for public education.

My wife and I home school (independently educate) our child. We expose him to a multitude of views that oppose our own conservative and Constitutionalist views.

That said, he is not exposed to some of the garbage that public schools offer. Not just the drugs and violence, but the indoctrination as well.

He's allowed to decide for himself what he believes. We in encourage him to question everything!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884674

YES.... making their own decisions is very important, questions are just as.

My husbands mom is very religious. My 17 year old, everytime we go to grandma's house will sit and argue with her about her beliefs. She is always trying to get him to go to church with her.. he doesn't want to go. She is always left with a clueless look on her face when they are done. It's not that he doesn't believe in God, but he doesn't like the idea of being pushed into something he doesn't feel comfortable with... and he has a problem with the Christian religion, in the sense he always tells her and I quote "God has no need for money Grandma, so why should you be forced to give a percentage of your annual income to the church? Greed is the root of all evil, and money=greed." She doesn't know how to argue that. It's quite funny to watch.

The reason they are after homeschoolers is on average they outperform mainstreamed kids by a large margin.

They opt out of vaccinations and the like, therefore are dangerous because they are not branded, like the rest of the cattle

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 223

Yes you are correct. My oldest 2 unfortunately was in public school previously, so they've had all their vaccinations. My youngest hasn't had 1. He's NEVER been sick. He had the flu one time, and that was only for 2 days, while the rest of us were down for over a week...lol

Homeschooling is best if parents are capable-and most I have met are better than adequate and the kids can read, do arithmetic, and actually apply analytical skills that are terribly remiss in public schools