You know, these are not the same as the L&D units. There's no reason you have to follow them unless you just want to.

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In any event, I wish the NetEA Chaos project moved with the same momentum. How long have we been at this now?

EpicUK is a closed group. Suggestions are taken from the boards and the tourney community in the UK, but all the development is closed. Also, they are focused entirely on UK tourneys and are unconcerned about the "metagame" aspects in other areas, like the US, Oz, or even non-tourney gameplay in the UK.

You know, these are not the same as the L&D units. There's no reason you have to follow them unless you just want to.

Yeah, just trying to work with the status quo rather than against it. They are similar enough to warrant a play test at least. It does make them better so any small boost to assist this list is a bonus.

Your list seems better anway. Points costs are much more reasonable for building a force.

I hope so. Regardless of all the ideas and debates that go on, my main goals are playability and fluff. I just need to find the balance.

I have no opinion on the EpicUK lists. Although I will view them for possible inspiration, I do not wish to get caught up with trying to match ideas that I was originally attempting to move away from (namely all Fearless armies). So the quest continues

Been reviewing the list again as I am using it as part of the TOEG challenge.

The Possessed and Chosen are both overpriced IMO.

If compared to a Marine Assault formation:- The Possessed Invulnerable Save and 2+ cc is almost comparable in power to ATSKNF and SR5. I would think that their cost could reduce to 200 points in the next review - Chosen having Scout and an extra attack are also comparable to Assault Marines with their MV, SR and ATSKNF. Thier cost may be reduced to 175 (maybe 200 due to Skull Lord)

Any concerns over 'spamming' these two units can be handled in a few ways:1. Keeping the restrictions of one per 1000 points as currently exists (probably not going to prevent people taking all 6 formations in a 3000 point list for 1125 points - that a major issue?)2. Making Support Formations only available from purchasing 'World Eater Berserker Retinues' (keep the restriction in '1' as well). 3. Other option is to throw them into the Auxiliary (Purchased on a 1:1 basis - I would rather not however).

there appears to be a belief to make these 2 to a stand - thereby being INF.

My only concern with this is making sure that they are a viable formation for a World Eaters Force.

- If they go to INF with no other changes, their points go up to a stage that they will be come un-viable on a cost scale- If they go to INF with some changes, I have a concern that they become un-viable on a 'useless' scale.

Upon this initial review, my goal is to keep them at the same points (50 points per unit). To make them INF and keep their cost, something has to change so here are some random thoughts without doing comparrisons at this stage:1. Lose the EA+1 and their only attack is a MW2. They lose Invulnerable Save3. Lose the FF attack

Note, I am not stating that they lose all or combinations. These are what I see as the only things that are possibly changable on the unit

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