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PalletShipping General Discussion

Welcome! I'm guessing that if you're here, you're a PalletShipper! Or you want to know what it is.

PalletShipping is a term given to the idea/belief of Gary (Shigeru) and Ash (Satoshi) are, or should be, a couple.

If you like the idea of them getting together, even if not romantically, then you're in the right place ^_^ I encourage any and all PalletShippers to check out this thread.

And if you're not a PalletShipper, then come check us out anyway! We don't bite! (Well, I don't, anyway. :3) All I ask is that you read the rules and respect your fellow SPPf members.

PalletShipping also has alternate names; the most prominent is ShiShiShipping (deriving from Shigeru and Satoshi + Shipping. For the sake of avoiding confusion between Japanese and American names, we'll just call it PalletShipping :3

Excessive foul language will not be tolerated, so please try and keep it to a minimum.

Don’t spam the thread with unrelated issues, questions, and fan work. Try to stay on topic and post relevant comments about the ship.

Try and be substantial in your posts. Saying "I agree" or "I disagree" without adding anything else is considered spam. Either elaborate on what you agree/disagree with, or don't post. It's just that simple.

No double/triple/quadruple/quintuple or anything+1 posting. Server lags are pretty common on these forums, so if you do end up posting more than once accidentally, please remove the extra posts.

Don’t bash the characters of the ship (Ash and Gary). No one is forcing you to love the ship or to be a part of the discussion.

Don't bash forum members, either. Everyone has their own opinions and tastes, and I’m certainly not here to discriminate against those who don’t share mine.

If you're posting about an episode that has not yet been aired in America, please keep it behind a spoiler tag. Many people don't enjoy having upcoming events spoiled by others, so please respect the wishes of these members.

If you wish to submit an episode picture, Fan Art or Fan Fiction, please post it here, in the form of a URL link, so as to keep clutter to a minimum. If you don't post your stuff properly, you might get a warning. Correct submissions will be added to the _Art Gallery_ section of the post, and said list will be upgraded at my own leisure.

On that note, please keep all submissions tasteful. No extreme nudity, violence, or anything like that. This kind of work is forbidden in the forums. We are, after all, catering to children and young teens in these forums. Any submissions that are deemed to be in violation of these conditions will result in a ban from the thread, and reported to a moderator.

Don't post in here just to advertise your Fan Fiction/Fan Art/AMV's and whatever else. It's okay to mention them every so often, but if it's all you're gonna post, then you'll get a nice little warning.

When submitting any works of Art or Fiction, please give a source for the picture. It's okay if you submit a work that's not your own, but please don't claim it as your own if it isn't.

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_The Essence of PalletShipping_

As mentioned above, this ship is about Ash and Gary. Though pretty much everyone should know who Ash is by now, I have nevertheless provided

_Episode Pictures Gallery** All pics in this Gallery have been submitted by Tadashi, unless otherwise specified. **

Tadashi's Big Book of Screencaps
New ongoing project. My mission: to take awesome screencaps of PalletShipping episodes. Can she do it? I think so. (Posted in the thread, I'll link to said posts for less clutter.)

- What's your favourite palletshipping hint?
- Do you think Gary was really flirting with Ash?
- What would the other charcters' reactions be after finding out about Gary and Ash's relationship? What would their parents/sibilings say?
- Who would be dominant?
- What does 'Palletshipping' mean to you?
- What would you like Gary's next appearance to be like and what kind of hints do you hope to see?
- Which is better? Jerk Gary x Ash or Nice Gary x Ash? WHY?
- Does the fact that they changed Ash's Voice Actor make you view the ship in a different light?
- What is your idea of a perfect "First Date" for Ash and Gary?
- What made you become a PalletShipper?
- What is something that you dislike about Palletshipping?
- What is your opinion regarding Gary's influence in Ash's travels?
- If Ash and Gary switched bodies what would happen?
- If Gary and Ash were to go on a double date with someone, who would it be and why? Would they get on?
- If YOU were in pokémon, what would you do to help palletshipping? Or would you do nothing? WHY FOR BOTH?
- If Ash and Gary were to star in a television program (In the Pokemon universe), what genre would that televsion program be? How would the scenario proceed?
- Do you hope to see Gary in the audience at the Sinnoh League, cheering for Ash?
- Which has better chemistry - Show Jerk-Gary and Ash, or Comic Jerk-Gary and Ash? Why?
- What song, if any, reminds you of PalletShipping?
- That magical moment has finally come: Ash and Gary have finally confessed their feelings for each other. How do you react?
- Do you think Ash and Gary are ready for a romantic relationship?
- Do you think Ash's Pikachu would be helpful, or hindering, for Ash and Gary's relationship? Why?
- Given how stubborn both boys are, do you think one would make "the chase" harder for the other?
- Do you think that Gary felt threatened by Ash when they were rivals? Why or why not?
- Do you think Gary and Ash would have/adopt a child? How would they handle it? Who would take more responsibility? Boy or Girl and what would the name be? Expand on it!
- What kind of nicknames/pet names do you think Ash and Gary would have for each other? Give examples!
- If Ash and Gary were Pokémon and had a battle; what pokémon would they be and who would win? why?
- If Gary had made an appearance during the Hoenn/Battle Frontier arc(s), how would you like to see it proceed? Where/when would he appear, what events would ensue? Expand on it!
- Describe a PalletShippy Halloween. (What do they do to 'celebrate'? Trick or treat? Party? Try to scare the living daylights out of each other?) Discuss!
- If Ash and Gary went to the same Christmas Party, Who would try to make it to the Mistletoe with the other first? Ash or Gary?
- What would happen if they both were accidentally caught under the mistle-toe?
- What would happen if Ash and Gary went on a double date, but with other people as their dates? Example Ash and _____________ and Gary and _________ all go out to the movies or something together. Now we all know the electricity between Gary and Ash and the fact that they like each other, so what would happen during this date. Would it lead to them finally admitting their feelings to each other?? And also who would the _______'s be for each boy?
- Who's place/where is Thanksgiving dinner?What foods are they eating? How else would they celebrate it?
- What Christmas gifts would they give each other?
- It's snowing!!!! What do Ash and gary do when they see the snow out the window?
- How do Gary and Ash celebrate the Holidays? What Holiday[s]?
- New Years!!! What do Ash and Gary do?
- How would you celebrate if you see the episode where Satoshi and Shigeru became canon?
- Which two pokémon of Ash's and Gary's do you think could fall in love? Why?
- What do you think Valentine's Day was like for Ash and Gary before they got together? What is Valentine's Day like now that they are together?
- Ash and Gary are both incredibly stubborn boys. What do you imagine a huge argument/fight between them would be like? What are they fighting about?
- If Ash or Gary was a girl, how do you think this would affect the fanbase of palletshipping? and would you have still supported it?
- What would be a situation that would test the limits of Ash and Gary's relationship?
- Let's say Ash and Gary have been married for about 10 years or so, what would their family look like?
- If Ash and Gary were to kiss and the pretend it never happened what would they say to someone who saw it?
- Satoshi gets sick (flu, cold, etc. etc.--whatever, just nothing death-bound. O.o) and is out of commission, but being the naive little nuthead that he is, he keeps traveling on his own. When Shigeru comes across Satoshi in this state, what would he do?
- Ash and Gary love each other, but what if they can't stay together? What if Ash has to choose between battling and Gary? Similarly, what if Gary has to choose between researching and Ash? What do you think's gonna happen?
- What kind of evidence/example would you give to someone who doesn't support PalletShipping? How would this piece of information help them understand the appeal of the ship?
- If Ash and Gary end up together, what does the future hold for them?
- What do you think Ash would do if Gary was sick?
- How would they celebrate Easter?
- What if Gary had decided to travel with Ash instead of becoming a researcher?
- Let's just say Ash was going to die. Gary has one last chance to tell him how he feels; what would he say?

Wow, there was no Palletshipping Thread until now? That's a surprise...

But anyway, I have no clue how I really got into Palletshipping. I think the whole rival-love thing is adorable. But then again that could apply to AshxRitchie, AshxPaul, etc... Maybe it's because I'm an indecisive multishipper/yaoifangirl.
But Can't Beat the Heat! is like a Palletshipping classic. When they were reflecting on childhood memories... D'aww. <3 And Gary decides to stop being an arrogant jerk, yay! Well...for the most part at least. =P

Well, I'm not sure how I got converted. I didn't even watch the Silver Conference things *fails*. I think I was pointlessly lurking around in ff.net. Which made me start thinking about the two in a new light... something. I just noticed that almost every yaoi ship under the sun that I've liked had the spicy rival love. Which probably made me like it even more? I'm a yaoi fangirl too so... I dunno. I think I'm just repeating you two, so....

Wow, there was no Palletshipping Thread until now? That's a surprise...

Right? It's amazing. I swear, I scoured the pages to make absolutely SURE that there wasn't one.

Originally Posted by The Renowned Obscurity

I think the whole rival-love thing is adorable. But then again that could apply to AshxRitchie, AshxPaul, etc... Maybe it's because I'm an indecisive multishipper/yaoifangirl.

I heartily agree. Heh, you can ship Ash with about 4,000 people in Pokemon, man. And the sad part is, we probably have that many people in the show XD;

Originally Posted by The Renowned Obscurity

But Can't Beat the Heat! is like a Palletshipping classic. When they were reflecting on childhood memories... D'aww. <3 And Gary decides to stop being an arrogant jerk, yay! Well...for the most part at least. =P

YES. (Pretty much the only classic, but I digress.) That was my favorite part, too! And the story with the Pokeballs... OMG *_* That sealed the deal for me. I like the new, mature Gary ^_^ "For the most part" being the operative words, here. Although... that time he wrote "Gary was here, Ash is a loser" on that sign post was insanely hilarious.

Welcome to my thread! =3

Originally Posted by Lunagel

I didn't even watch the Silver Conference things *fails*. I think I was pointlessly lurking around in ff.net.

PHAIL. But you know, that's ok. I won't yell at you :3 There is absolutely nothing wrong with stalking FF.net

Originally Posted by Lunagel

I just noticed that almost every yaoi ship under the sun that I've liked had the spicy rival love.

Not so much "under the sun" for me, but I definitely likes me some spicy rival love =D

Welcome to my thread ^^

Originally Posted by C.Gholy

Nice to see another palletshipping thread.

Nice to see you here, C.Gholy

Where is the other thread, may I ask? Unless it's my little fan club, in which case I already know where to find it, hehe.

Originally Posted by C.Gholy

I loved Gary's comments to Ash, especially his winking at him.

Lest we forget the nickname. "Ashy boy." *cackles madly*

Woo, topics!

What's your fav palletshipping hint?
That episode "The Ties That Bind", when Ash and Gary showed they'd each kept that half a Pokeball. I think I felt my teeth rot at that point.

Do you think Gary was really flirting with Ash?
Hell yes I do. The winking, the pet-naming... a lot of people would say it's just to get a rise out of Ash, but I say it was ON PURPOSE FLIRTING!

I support palletshipping! I haven't seen many of the episodes with Gary in them; it was the fanart and the fanfiction that made me a supporter. I think they would go reallllly well together! I don't have much examples from the show because as I said, I haven't seen them. But I know their personalities, like Gary's stuck up [right?] and Ash is confident [at least in the Advanced seasons, I am watching those now]. I think that works! ;D

Just for the record however, I will never really consider any shipping to be romantic. More of a buddy-buddy ordeal.

Do you think Gary was really flirting with Ash?
Hmm, probably not in my opinion. However that may just be from my own experiences and teachings of acting like a jerk. Gary however seems to have class when doing so, so naturally it would be hard to pinpoint exactly what's going on.

About any 'hints' that you guys may be talking about, It's been quite a while since I'm watched any of the old episodes revolving around Gary and Ash, so I may need some explaining about them.

Last edited by Tri hawk; 17th September 2008 at 10:36 PM.
Reason: My first edit in the Palletshipping thread! I think i'll leave this one be.

Maybe some of us can clear up some 'hints' you're wondering about. Is there something in particular that's bugging you? =D

Hmm, well now that you mention it...
I could never find the episode where Ash, Misty, and Brock are traveling and just exiting a forest they come across a sign covered over by something that Gary wrote. This description sounds pretty vauge, but I'm positive that Ash was inferiated by the sign.

This was in the Kanto region, by the way. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Last edited by Tri hawk; 17th September 2008 at 10:44 PM.
Reason: Brilliant.

yes, Gary likes to flirt with Ash. :3 I really like supporting couples in which one likes to tease and insult the other. It's...appealing.

Originally Posted by Tri hawk

Hmm, well now that you mention it...
I could never find the episode where Ash, Misty, and Brock are traveling and just exiting a forest they come across a sign covered over by something that Gary wrote. This description sounds pretty vauge, but I'm positive that Ash was inferiated by the sign.

This was in the Kanto region, by the way. Your help is greatly appreciated.

zomg I remember that!!!! It's amazing that I do, since I probably watched it when I was 6. =D Sorry, I don't know anything else about that ep...

I could never find the episode where Ash, Misty, and Brock are traveling and just exiting a forest they come across a sign covered over by something that Gary wrote. This description sounds pretty vauge, but I'm positive that Ash was inferiated by the sign.

Oh I remember that sign! Hang on, let me poke around a bit. I have the first 30 or so episodes on DVD. I do remember seeing it pretty recently, so... AH~! I found a link!

The general consensus here is "What the hell...?" XD; I have no IDEA what Brock would say or do. I like Tri hawk's suggestion, though XD

Originally Posted by Tri hawk

Gligarman: Tally ho!... How did I get here? Anyway, congratulations, I assume.

Ash's Hat: *Epic silence*

HEE!! The return of Gligarman!!! XDD *snickers* "Tally ho!" I love Ash's hat. It will remain silent forever XD; Just a question: which one of Ash's hats is it? Because he's got like 3 or 4 different hats. XDD

By the way: NICE edit reason! XDD

Originally Posted by Tri hawk

however I find the expression of the man behind Ash to be ever the more amusing.

OMFG, I didn't even notice until you pointed it out~ XD; He looks like he swallowed a snail or something~!

Building off of riolulu's topic, what would Ash's MOM say about this? O____O Andandand, what do you think Team Rocket's reaction would be?? XDD

HEE!! The return of Gligarman!!! XDD *snickers* "Tally ho!" I love Ash's hat. It will remain silent forever XD; Just a question: which one of Ash's hats is it? Because he's got like 3 or 4 different hats. XDD

Glee! Finally another person on these forums that remembers the almighty Gligarman! The Hat I was talking about wasn't any specific one; so I'll let it up to the reader to imagine whatever hat they see fit. *coughJohtocough*

Building off of riolulu's topic, what would Ash's MOM say about this? O____O Andandand, what do you think Team Rocket's reaction would be?? XDD

Bah, I'm not good at these... Well, here it goes:

Team Rocket: Bountiful confusion, but I'm pretty sure Mime Jr would like it. Then Wobbuffet would pop out an crush everyone in one trememdous sit!

Ash's mom: "Mom SMASH! Gahhh!!!!" Pfft, how about a pleasant nod in uncertainty? I see that best fit for Ash's mom... What's her name, Delia, or something?

Bah, I need to start thinking of some questions. *initiate instense thinking*

Last edited by Tri hawk; 30th August 2008 at 3:17 PM.
Reason: Still thinking... Check back later.

Building off of riolulu's topic, what would Ash's MOM say about this? O____O Andandand, what do you think Team Rocket's reaction would be?? XDD

I honestly don't think that Team rocket would give a damn except that while they make out, Pikachu is stolen. And why don't we save the mom topic for a seperate topic:

What would their parents/sibilings say?

that includes Reggie~!!

And I will answer my own topic now. I love that topic!

What would the other charcters' reactions be after finding out about Gary and Ash's relationship?

May: .........Okaaaa~y! *fake smile*
Ritchie: Alright. Now all my friends are gay and dating. That's nice.
Max: *defines 'homosexuality' as if everyone needed clarification*
Dawn: Just stay about five feet away from me at all times and I'll be okay!
Dawn's Buneary: does that mean that Pikachu's gay too?!?!?!?!?!?!?! )':
Brock: Even Ash is in a relationship before me! *sob*
Paul: Like I care. *beats his pokémon in frustration*
Misty: nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!! Ash!!!!!!!!!!!

You and I know it, all we need to do is spread the word! 8D (Though the Pokeshippers, Advanceshippers and... that thing with AshxDawn, I forget what it's called... might murder us 8D)

Pearlshipping perhaps?

I don't think so. People can ships more than one ship per character. I ship 42 pokémon ships. and I don't ship 84 different characters. I could link the thrad in my siggy if you like.

Who would be dominant?

What? You mean battles...?

I kid, I kid.

I think it would be Gary 8D In more ways than one, if you catch my drift. *smacked* owwie x.x;

I can't believe even *I* didn't think about posting this one XD;

really? I've been wanting to post it all along lol. Just to see if anyone would choose Ash, so I can get a good laugh. *shot*

I think Gary would be dominant for various reasons. First of all, Ash is dense and unexperienced. [sorry, Ash, but it's true xP] Gary seems like it fits his personality more and he seems to know what he's doing a little more, too. I mean, one of those girls that follow him around must have dragged him into bed at least once, right? *ahem*

I've been wanting to post it all along lol. Just to see if anyone would choose Ash, so I can get a good laugh. *shot*

Aww XD; You never know, he's kinda headstrong on and off the battlefield, he might just be that way when it comes to the *ahem* bedroom.

Originally Posted by riolulu

I mean, one of those girls that follow him around must have dragged him into bed at least once, right? *ahem*

LMAO. Oh, the mental images~ XDDD Again, my mom thinks I'm insane from all my laughter. Thank you. Watch Brock kill himself when he finds out at least one of those cheerleaders was sexually active with Gary XD;