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You're seriously calling Yagr a diver!?!?! Why the hell would he stay off the ice in the dying moments of a gold medal game??

Why? Because of 5+20 minute penalty, which was followed by another 2 minute Russian penalty, you take a dive and you make your opponent shorthanded for 7 minutes with 10 minutes left, what is so hard to understand?

This is obviously the worst atrocity to ever befall the sport. As compensation, the IIHF should award the next 7 WC Gold medals to Russian, and probably the previous 5 as well.

There Siberian, is that what you wanted to hear?

Actually no, I thought Czech team deservingly were winning the game for 50 minutes, all I wanted is a proper ending to the game and the tournament. Russia was trying to build pressure against Czech team, which was literally out of gas, but instead the game was spoiled by the diving that started to take place.

Russians failed to score against much weaker Czech team for about 50 minutes. No way they deserved to win. Also, a Russian player gave an elbow to Koukal's head seconds before this hit on Jagr - no penalty was called.
Russians were a great group of individuals, but very poor team. They lost as they should have.

As for the diving, give yourself a slap. Malkin attacked Mojzis 50 cm from the referee, what did you expect? The only dive I recall was the ridiculous Vokoun acting, but that's about it.

Russians failed to score against much weaker Czech team for about 50 minutes. No way they deserved to win. Also, a Russian player gave an elbow to Koukal's head seconds before this hit on Jagr - no penalty was called.
Russians were a great group of individuals, but very poor team. They lost as they should have.

As for the diving, give yourself a slap. Malkin attacked Mojzis 50 cm from the referee, what did you expect?

Russia sucked and they lost. It happens.

You complaining about incidental collision, seriously? There is a thick line between a ticky tack call and an obvious diving. I never compained about ticky tack penalties when Czech scored the goals. First goal came after Semin was interfered with and second goal came after Fedorov was tripped and lost the puck, I am not complaining about that.

Why? Because of 5+20 minute penalty, which was followed by another 2 minute Russian penalty, you take a dive and you make your opponent shorthanded for 7 minutes with 10 minutes left, what is so hard to understand?

Ok, so say he took a dive. The 5+20 penalty is on the board already. Nothing is stopping him from coming back onto the ice and playing...

Watch the last 60 seconds again siberian. You can see jagr slowly skate to the group and hugs a player before the group. He starts to skate to the group and the camera cuts to russians. When it comes back you can see that Jagr is on the left hand side of the group, he is the one with the blue helmet. He is leaning over and he is NOT jumping up and down. You need to pay attention before you make accusations because he wasn't jumping around.

I don't know if the penalty was dirty or not, so i have no comment about it. I do, however, know that the previous hit on the other guy was very bad and there was no call. It seemed obvious to me that they missed that call and when the russians hit Jagr with 10 minutes left in the game it is easy to understand why they made it a major penalty. Maybe they thought the russians had given up and were just going out there bashing all the czechs and were trying to send a message to the Russians.

Just recently a soccer player died on the field in Hungary if I remember it correctly. Prior to that when the player was lying on the field the referee gave him a yellow card for the delay of game. He thought the player was faking an injury while in fact he was having a heart attack. I feel sorry for the referee but I want to point out that the reason for that is that because soccer has become an embarassing sport because of all the diving. I know the Russian hockey players dive a lot too, I was extremely disappointed with the embarassing dive Morozov commited against Canada in the qfinal in Vancouver, it was so obvious and laughable, worst thing is that a canadian was sent to the box. Diving in hockey should be fought as much as possible. Faking the injuries is 10 times worse because when the actual injury happens it is bad. I have no doubt Jagr did dive, I watch hockey for a long time and I see an injury, you don't have to be a professor. This kills the sport.

“Clipping” is the act of throwing the body
across or below the knee of an opponent, charging,
or falling into the knees of an opponent after
approaching him from behind, side or front.

524 - CLIPPING
a) A player who lowers his own body position to deliver a check on or below an
opponents’ knees, shall be assessed, at the discretion of the Referee, a:
➤ Minor penalty (2’)
or
➤ Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
➤ Match penalty (MP)
b) A player who injures his opponent by a clipping action, shall be assessed, at the
discretion of the Referee a:
➤ Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
➤ Match penalty (MP)

Russians failed to score against much weaker Czech team for about 50 minutes. No way they deserved to win. Also, a Russian player gave an elbow to Koukal's head seconds before this hit on Jagr - no penalty was called.
Russians were a great group of individuals, but very poor team. They lost as they should have.

As for the diving, give yourself a slap. Malkin attacked Mojzis 50 cm from the referee, what did you expect? The only dive I recall was the ridiculous Vokoun acting, but that's about it.

Russia sucked and they lost. It happens.

Lately quite often.

The finnish referee said in a interview, that he has no regrets about the call. He said it was a clear case of clipping.

“Clipping” is the act of throwing the body
across or below the knee of an opponent, charging,
or falling into the knees of an opponent after
approaching him from behind, side or front.

524 - CLIPPING
a) A player who lowers his own body position to deliver a check on or below an
opponents’ knees, shall be assessed, at the discretion of the Referee, a:
➤ Minor penalty (2’)
or
➤ Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
➤ Match penalty (MP)
b) A player who injures his opponent by a clipping action, shall be assessed, at the
discretion of the Referee a:
➤ Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
➤ Match penalty (MP)

It would have been correct if the hit was on or below the knees and Jagr got realy hurt. As you can see on the video the contact was made above the knees which is considered a clean check. On the other hand the second goal by czechs should have been disallowed based on this rule because Fedorov got clipped by a czech player, where he was clearly clipped below his knees.

Not a fan of the IIHF's automatic rules, but by those rules, the injury on what was a textbook clipping play warrants 5 + 20. He went in too low on Jagr. It's across or below the knee, not solely below.

Not a fan of the IIHF's automatic rules, but by those rules, the injury on what was a textbook clipping play warrants 5 + 20. He went in too low on Jagr.

Clipping is a great rule, because you try to protect the players from being deliberately injured by other players. Sometimes you see those clippings and you go ouch. It wasn't anything like that, Jagr's knee was fine.