Kurieuo wrote:Morally, it's hard to pin what exactly is wrong. Except that lustful thoughts could occur, even in the best of us.

I've been told that this might occur at first, but soon disappears, and any male physical response is very much frowned upon. So much so that one is expected to "take care of it" or leave. They said that because nudity is the norm it looses its allure quite quickly. But I don't know if this is really good or not. Right now I enjoy the nudity and partial nudity of an attractive woman.

Would you mind if someone lusted over your significant other? Or if your SO had thoughts of someone else?

No more so than if both were clothed. And as I understand it, any untoward behavior is strictly verboten.

Why is your sister conscious to others when naked? Perhaps, she doesn't want them gawking perhaps, in addition to likely not wanting to offend.

Not understanding your use of "conscious to" here. I do know that she's very mindful of the sensibilities of others, and would never want to offend.

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RickD wrote:That's just not normal, one's sister walking around naked in front of a male sibling. There's something seriously wrong with that.

Certainly not normal for sure. But she doesn't see anything wrong with it, and I've come to the same conclusion. To me her naked body is no more interesting than any of the clothes she wears. But why do you find her walking around naked in front of me to be seriously wrong?

RickD wrote:That's just not normal, one's sister walking around naked in front of a male sibling. There's something seriously wrong with that.

Audacity wrote:Certainly not normal for sure. But she doesn't see anything wrong with it, and I've come to the same conclusion. To me her naked body is no more interesting than any of the clothes she wears. But why do you find her walking around naked in front of me to be seriously wrong?

If it's not obvious why it is inappropriate for a grown sister to walk around naked in front of her brother, then I just don't know what to tell you.

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I don't know how keen your SO is for it, but if there is a possibility, I'd tell her we should not go. I mean, what positive thing can you get from such a meeting? Right, ending the matter, but there is a (high?) possibility the matter won't end since your sister is in it that much (and even hopes you change your mind).Ask her if you didn't already. What positive outcomes is she expecting from this which you can not do fully clothed?Also, I wouldn't do it for another reason: seeing nudity between a woman and a man (a (married) couple) as something intimate, private, not required to be shown to everyone. But that is just my opinion.

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Audacity wrote:One of my sisters loves being naked. She will often spend all day at home in the nude. She lives in the country and her home is well fenced so she doesn't hesitate to go outside in the buff, working in her garden or whatever. Her husband could best be described as ambivalent, only sometimes going naked. From time to time their two children will run around without clothes, but mostly outside in the summer. When it comes to visitors she's very discrete, checking to see who's at the door before opening it. She never bothers to dress when I come over. Initially, I found this slightly embarrassing, but now it's just a ho-hum, no big deal. The two of them have also belonged to a nudist camp for some years, and from time to time have invited my significant other and me to check it out (we wouldn't have to disrobe for the visit). My SO is interested, and has, in fact, gone topless in our home when the summer days get real hot. This is fine with me, but going to a nudist camp is a whole different thing. I have no body image hang up, but the idea of being naked in front of others is a bit daunting. I was brought up believing one never exposed themselves in "public" or to the opposite sex. However, to put an end to their invitations and the prodding of my SO, I've considered visiting the camp this spring. Their hope of course is that I will change my mind. My hope is that it will be the end of the matter. However, their rational for going nude is beginning to make some sense, and I'm wondering if I should stick to my guns or visit with an open mind.

Considering how my SO feels, where should I be putting my priorities? What would you do?

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I like to do housework in the nude, which I guess is actually fairly common.Dancing with the vacuum cleaner.. But then, I live alone, I'd not be comfortablewith an audience.

One time in California, I was talked into going to a nude beach. That was really a fiasco.because I hate getting in the sun. It took me more than a year to lose the tan, and that was from maybe a half hour before I retreated to the car.

I suppose whether nudity is "right' for a person depends just on how you feel.Maybe it feels foolish, or pointless. Or maybe it can give a sense of freedom some way.

I dont see anything wrong with experimenting, its not like you'd be doing somethingthat would really change you, the way doing something immoral would.

To me, going to a "camp' so people can go around naked sounds kind of silly.

RickD wrote:That's just not normal, one's sister walking around naked in front of a male sibling. There's something seriously wrong with that.

Audacity wrote:Certainly not normal for sure. But she doesn't see anything wrong with it, and I've come to the same conclusion. To me her naked body is no more interesting than any of the clothes she wears. But why do you find her walking around naked in front of me to be seriously wrong?

If it's not obvious why it is inappropriate for a grown sister to walk around naked in front of her brother, then I just don't know what to tell you.

I'll take your inability to explain as a sign that your objection is not based on reason, but a purely personal distaste on your part.

IceMobster wrote:I don't know how keen your SO is for it, but if there is a possibility, I'd tell her we should not go.

There's always that possibility, but I've pretty much made up my mind to visit the place. My question is whether or not to go with an open mind. Would it be worth my time to mull it over and give it due consideration, or simply reject it out of hand? Thinking about it, even if I did go with the intent of rejecting it I'd most likely unconsciously start weighing the pros and cons. Or maybe even consciously.

Ask her if you didn't already. What positive outcomes is she expecting from this which you can not do fully clothed?

As its been explained to me, one doesn't do anything much differently, but by going nude one becomes more accepting of one's flaws, it's fun not to be encumbered by clothing, and it gives one a sense of liberation (these are some of the reasons my sister has given me). The one thing I can say for the nudist camp is that it appears to be fun. At least my sister and her family, particularly the kids, really enjoy going.

PaulSacramento wrote:There is really only one major problem with nudists:They tend to be people that you DON'T want to see naked !

Yeah, that might be a turn off; however, my brother-in-law says one gets over these kinds of judgements pretty quickly, and is, in fact, one of the benefits of going to a nudist camp; it tends to rid a person of superficial judgments. One becomes more accepting of others.

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Adam and Eve started out their existence in the nude and it didn't bother them Until they disobeyed God. The ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil and Immediately they saw their nakedness and covered themselves. A nudist camp? For worshiping God? I don't think so. Nudity is a special thing for married couples to enjoy each other. In private. Going to a nude beach? NO -- an all-over suntan wouldn't be one of my biggest concerns. There are guys there with live / active Hormones. And probably alcohol and drugs available. A great recipe For.......... And the idea of older siblings seeing each other in the nude -- No. There is More of a Need to be taught Modesty.