In message <51C2F0A3.8040302 at heanet.ie>,
Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:
>I'm going to snip a lot of this mail, but there's a core issue I'd like
>to address.
>>> Now, imagine for a moment that The Duchy of Grand Fenwick (google it) has
>> just passed a law _requiring_ all of its citizens to spam. What is RIPE
>> going to do? Issue each citizen of Grand Fenwick his or her own /24?
>> In short, at what point does respect for the individuality and authority
>> of the constituent nations and municipalities of the entire RIPE region
>> cross over into unambiguous lunacy?
>>It's an interesting hypothetical, certainly. There are a number of
>possible options. The first is that the EU, or just the Netherlands,
>became aware of this and said "These people are bad, EU companies may
>not trade with them". The RIPE NCC operates under Dutch law, so they
>would be forced to stop doing business with those people.
A highly unlikely scenario, I think you will agree.
>The second may be that while these companies may be legitimate
>businesses the NCC is aware of the local law and says, "Ah, no, we know,
>for a fact, that you are mandated to use these resources for network
>abuse, therefore your application is invalid."
Again, based upon the current available evidence, also a highly unlikely
scenario.
>The third option may be that the law is passed, the resources are handed
>out and the RIPE community, so incensed by this, writes a policy that
>allows for far more invasive deregistration and closure steps and the
>membership of the NCC signs off on this. It would be... fun (fcvo fun)
>to watch and I suspect Nigel may cry.
I'm not even sure which specific Nigel you are referring to, but I for one
could live with that.
>Of course in amongst all of this I would suspect if the resources were
>handed out, there would be a lot of depeering and null routing going on
>in relation to the poor, forced-to-spam, citizens of the Grand Duchy. :)
Once again, based upon the available evidence, I would claim that it
would in fact be improbable that any substantial amount of deppeering
and/or null routing would occur, in practice. It is a classic "trajedy
of the commons" problem, and no operator would wish to have to explain
to its user base why they, end end lusers, can no longer send e-mail to
their cousins in Grand Fenwick.
Regards,
rfg

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