Also elevator fusion. I had tons of albums - David Sanborn, Larry Carlton, Lee Ritenour, Spiro Gyra, George Benson, Michel Colombier etc. There were pearls amongst the swine but the gem/pork ratio was pretty dire.

Just triggered a funny memory ... I joined a band in my teens after a group of friends came over to my place, tied rope around my elevator fusion record collection (despite my protests) and said "You're not listening to that sh1t any more, you're gonna play in a rock n roll band!!" lol

I still enjoy that Broken Wings song when it comes on the radio. Still enjoy Cozy's tune too, even if he ripped off Third Stone (and then later had his beat ripped off by Boney M, which seems ironically fair).

Around pre-teens / early teens I was heavily into Slade and liked Dave Lee best *chortle* - redikuluss!

In the late 70s I hated disco, but now I like many of the songs. While I never liked How Deep Is Your Love, I've come to like many of the other Bee Gee songs from that era. Their stuff from late 60s/early 70s is excellent. Incredible harmonies.

Let's just say that when I was a youngster, I didn't hate Free Bird with the passion of the Christ and the intensity of a thousand suns. The reverse is now true. Though I still like to throw on some Skynyrd on once in a while, I have deliberately not listened to that song and the first few notes of it always make me have a sour or upset look on my face. It's a physical reaction.

I am a patient person, but there is really only so many times a man can hear some drunk moron scream "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBIRD" at the top of his lungs. Good grief, people.

Let's just say that when I was a youngster, I didn't hate Free Bird with the passion of the Christ and the intensity of a thousand suns.

Haha - things sure are different in the US. Never once had it requested and I'd never even heard this song until people here kept mentioning it and I checked it out. I thought it was pretty epic :)

Worst thing is when you play lounge and some cretin shouts PLAY SOME ROAWK AN ROLLLL! I am not a violent person but ...

I am pleased to say that I never cared for Bon Jovi, despite the cute buns and magnificent mullets. Like others I was all "Death to Disco" in the 70s and 80s and now I enjoy some of those old tunes like I Will Survive, Funkytown, Don't Leave Me This Way and Never Can Say Goodbye.

Still, we DTD types were right - disco lead to dance clubs which, along with gaming machines and noise laws, devastated the live music scene.

Well, I was thinking about it, and I did really like that track (actually, the whole album too). And then Wayne Shorter's incoherent blowing, Steve's bombastic fills that seem to always be based on the paradiddle, and the lyrics about banyan trees and hills....it all started to sound uber-pretentious to me over the next two decades. And the way every college musician talks about that album and how it's so revered, like it's some kind of bible or something. I've experienced this same reaction whenever someone says "Mahavishnu whatever" too.

It's albums like these that make these young players go out and implement these overly-pretentious ideas into songs like "Mustang Sally" or "You are the Sunshine of my Life", and gets them fired, or at least distrusted on the bandstand for the next few years of their musical careers (if they get to have a few years before giving up and getting a real job). It's not just drummers. Bassists, guitarists, horn players.....they've all suffered from this album. It's a shame. If I could go back in time I'd stop my sister from ever buying that wretched album (I think albums back then were only $2.99 too) and get Kiss's Destroyer instead. I would've been much better served not having shunned Charlie Watts and Ringo, and just delved into the works of Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks. That stuff never gets old and I love playing it, even 30 years later.

I'm going over to iTunes to download the latest Miranda Lambert hit now.

Point taken.
I remember being guided towards Aja by people whose opinions I placed much higher than my own. I do still like it, but that's probably because it also occupies a time of life that, with the benefit of hindsight, was sweet, carefree, etc., etc.
And, well, I .......
Don't really need to justify, do I.
Nor question someone elses choices, come to think of it.

Point taken.
I remember being guided towards Aja by people whose opinions I placed much higher than my own. I do still like it, but that's probably because it also occupies a time of life that, with the benefit of hindsight, was sweet, carefree, etc., etc.
And, well, I .......
Don't really need to justify, do I.
Nor question someone elses choices, come to think of it.

Yeah, no worries.
I think it hadn't occured to me until you came back with a reading of the music that, to be honest, I hadn't considered; that my affection for it was coming from someplace else completely.
You know, how things that we may have 'treasured' may not have been scrutinised in the full light of day; kind of a thing?!!!

Yeah, no worries.
I think it hadn't occured to me until you came back with a reading of the music that, to be honest, I hadn't considered; that my affection for it was coming from someplace else completely.
You know, how things that we may have 'treasured' may not have been scrutinised in the full light of day; kind of a thing?!!!

Yeah, I get it. I was watching some old Bugs Bunny cartoons that I swear were so funny when I was 8. Nowadays, not so much.

But my dig on the college players totally revering certain artists and works, that's true. I've done gigs with people like this, and it's horrifying. There I would be at some VFW hall with a crowd who just wants to rock and I have a bass player who won't play low notes, or a guitar player who can't play 'inside'. I've had singers who couldn't swing the phrase "I will survive", and keyboardists whose only organ sound was that thin Wurlitzer church organ sound. I've suffered alot at the hands of these pretentious artists putting out albums full of fusiony fluff. I'd like a refund for some of that!

I feel your pain!
And, what's worse, I know I've fallen into that trap.
In fact................
O bollocks, I believe I've still got at least one foot and two hands in it!
In fact make that two hands and two feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I get it. I was watching some old Bugs Bunny cartoons that I swear were so funny when I was 8. Nowadays, not so much.

Aja may get old.........Bugs and Daffy? Never!!

Don't have a once favoured song that I now hate. Plenty I may tire of due to repetition or bombardment, but that doesn't extend to dislike by any measure. In the right mood, I can still find something good in anything I like.....regardless of how often I've heard it. Generally speaking, if I hate it now it's because I hated it then. Favourites have become favourites for a reason......even a bit of overkill is unlikely to change that for me.

If anything, I roll the other way. There's a bunch of stuff I once didn't like or was too willing to dismiss, that the passage of time has actually given me an appreciation for.

Do you know what?
I was just thinking along similar lines.
When I scored a Stanley Clarke album from the clearance bin at a favourite record shop; I remember my disappointment that he was playing double bass, and it was a jazz album.
I was a teenager, and had only known his electric work.
Yeah, I hear the groans!
But that was then.
I gave it a couple of listens, but just didn't have any way to get into it then.

Times change.
And now I can't get a laugh out of the slap-stick in "Fawlty Towers".

Do you know what? [ Part 2 ]
Maybe I should use quotes, or learn to type a whole lot faster! Please refer back a bit for relevance!

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Around pre-teens / early teens I was heavily into Slade and liked Dave Lee best *chortle* - redikuluss!

Love Slade :) The first concert I ever went to was Slade at the Mountford Hall in Liverpool. I was 13. Noddy Holder has a great voice, & despite the overtly pop stuff, there was some good song writing in there too :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U_StmOgGX0

Hey Bo,
Just reviewed the posts, and was thinking back.
There are so definately ' why would you ? ' songs.
I hope I've never crossed that threshold.
Originals, perhaps is where the' note lust ' comes in. And then hopefully, taste raises it's head.
That being said; in charting the progress of favourite bands/ artists; I think that many players have perhaps pushed too hard in the name of progress.

However, if everything stays the same, nothing changes.
Another thread idea: ' Finger on the Pulse'.............who made a difference at the right time?
Take for example this: the Beatles. "Kind of Blue", Miles Davies.
I'm wondering how many songs/ tunes/ albums we remember would fit into the catergory of :
Holy shit, I was there then,when.
This underpins a part of me. Not only has that music become woven into my history, but with reflection, that moment has been acknowledged as a "Once in a lifetime"
I know I'm kind of 'slewing' sideways.
But,
And yes,
Here comes the point.
The thing you loved that you no longer love. Or continue to love.................
Is still a part of you, or, has changed because....................
Everything that you've done/learnt since says it's dated, or, a classic.
Just kind of rambling on association.

Hey Bo,
Just reviewed the posts, and was thinking back.
There are so definately ' why would you ? ' songs.
I hope I've never crossed that threshold.
Originals, perhaps is where the' note lust ' comes in. And then hopefully, taste raises it's head.
That being said; in charting the progress of favourite bands/ artists; I think that many players have perhaps pushed too hard in the name of progress.

Well, there's nothing wrong with pushing the envelope in the name of progress. I just think alot of players confuse progress with making a living. Not everyone can be Simon Phillips and make an album with Jeff Beck producing music like Space Boogie and get away with it ;)

I think Pol mentioned all that corporate muck jazz being thrown about during the 80s, and it's true. Oddly enough you can still get new muck jazz like that today. Even better, you don't have to buy a whole album of it, thanks to iTunes, eh?

O.K. Back to topic.
And sorry if I wandered a bit, but, there are reasons why we have associations with certain music in time. Good and bad.Looking back may bring the soft moments of being there, or the cold hard reality of, holy shit, it hasn't stood the passage of time.
So endeth the lesson.
Whatever, whatever, amen.

Don't have a once favoured song that I now hate. Plenty I may tire of due to repetition or bombardment, but that doesn't extend to dislike by any measure. In the right mood, I can still find something good in anything I like.....regardless of how often I've heard it. Generally speaking, if I hate it now it's because I hated it then. Favourites have become favourites for a reason......even a bit of overkill is unlikely to change that for me.

If anything, I roll the other way. There's a bunch of stuff I once didn't like or was too willing to dismiss, that the passage of time has actually given me an appreciation for.

Yes overplayed and over-revered perhaps. My favorite Dan song is "Dirty Work" though. An early gem featuring that guy on vocals who went AWOL after the first LP. Not many great sessions musicians playing on that one I think...just a straightforward tune.

Anything by Muse (except for the second album, which really is excellent) stirs hatred in me. When I was young and impressionable I thought they were good and now I've realised that they are just dire.