For example, if both Waco Kid and Santa Rana both drop an item, like Aro de Armadura, would they have different drop rates? Like Santa would have a higher chance of dropping it than Waco?

And if that is true, then do you have a higher chance of an item dropping from a boss at the end of a dungeon, or the same as a single fight boss sigil?

If two bosses drop the same item, the drop rates will be the same.

We also don't vary drop rates according to the type of "drop"-- at the beginning or end of a dungeon, behind a sigil or not, or anything along those lines.

Each enemy has one or more loot tables and those loot tables define the drop rates, without reference to "who" dropped the item. So, in the case of two bosses that drop the same item, they're both pointing to the same loot table. In the example you gave, it's probably what I call the "Rare Items" loot table; and Santa Rana will *also* have another unique loot table, where things like his hat or his gun can drop. Waco Kid is obviously not pointing at that loot table.

The exception is the 2nd Chance chests-- although here the only change is to make sure that the table doesn't ever drop "nothing," which can sometimes happen with regular loot tables. (If you paid crowns for a second chance loot roll, we make sure you get something.)

We also don't vary drop rates according to the type of "drop"-- at the beginning or end of a dungeon, behind a sigil or not, or anything along those lines.

Each enemy has one or more loot tables and those loot tables define the drop rates, without reference to "who" dropped the item. So, in the case of two bosses that drop the same item, they're both pointing to the same loot table. In the example you gave, it's probably what I call the "Rare Items" loot table; and Santa Rana will *also* have another unique loot table, where things like his hat or his gun can drop. Waco Kid is obviously not pointing at that loot table.

The exception is the 2nd Chance chests-- although here the only change is to make sure that the table doesn't ever drop "nothing," which can sometimes happen with regular loot tables. (If you paid crowns for a second chance loot roll, we make sure you get something.)

Wonderful info Ratbeard, thank you. Is there any way to limit duplications in the second chance chests? Especially for rare no trade items, well that is the reason for the request. It is frustrating to spend real cash for something and wind up getting 3 of a no trade item in the same visit. Is that controllable in the table dynamics?

Wonderful info Ratbeard, thank you. Is there any way to limit duplications in the second chance chests? Especially for rare no trade items, well that is the reason for the request. It is frustrating to spend real cash for something and wind up getting 3 of a no trade item in the same visit. Is that controllable in the table dynamics?

No, we don't tweak the rolls based on what you may have received before.

But it does seem unusual that you would get three no trade items in the same visit. Only the most unique items are marked no trade.

I can only assume from this that you're at a 2nd chance chest for a boss who drops multiple unique no trade items, and that you're fishing for a specific item.

We're fairly agnostic about how you guys use the 2nd chance chests, but it might be better to think of them as a chance to get something unique as opposed to getting something specific unique.

No, we don't tweak the rolls based on what you may have received before.

But it does seem unusual that you would get three no trade items in the same visit. Only the most unique items are marked no trade.

I can only assume from this that you're at a 2nd chance chest for a boss who drops multiple unique no trade items, and that you're fishing for a specific item.

We're fairly agnostic about how you guys use the 2nd chance chests, but it might be better to think of them as a chance to get something unique as opposed to getting something specific unique.

* Looks abashed and guilty *Yea you have a good point and when that happened I had a weak moment and I was truly fishing and the odds were truly not in my favor, lol. I did make a great deal of gold but I was just curious. I will re-orient my thinking and use them appropriately. My general usage of second chance chests are used correctly it's just my weak moment was memorable but I do now see that it was my own fault. My apologies.

Does begging increase the drop rate. For example, I was farming for the armadillo and the time I started begging, like "Pls KI, give me the armadillo," I got the armadillo. Also, I was trying to get the key for a mooshu main quest, which was very hard to get, I got it the battle I started begging.

Does begging increase the drop rate. For example, I was farming for the armadillo and the time I started begging, like "Pls KI, give me the armadillo," I got the armadillo. Also, I was trying to get the key for a mooshu main quest, which was very hard to get, I got it the battle I started begging.

Say I got the Hat of Houndini from Bishop, and I already know that Bishop drops from a Level 50 Clothing with Powers loot table. If I got the Hat of Houndini from another Dockworker Dan, would I know, then, that Dockworker Dan drops everything else that Bishop drops from the Level 50 Clothing with Powers loot table?

Does begging increase the drop rate. For example, I was farming for the armadillo and the time I started begging, like "Pls KI, give me the armadillo," I got the armadillo. Also, I was trying to get the key for a mooshu main quest, which was very hard to get, I got it the battle I started begging.