Happy to have the post end, but your summary is self serving nonsense. — Rank Amateur

There was no discussion of the merits of Roe. A comparable English law was introduced, and the discussion seemed to be that it was reasonable.

As to unreasonable people, that would be you. You presented a problematic argument, and when questioned were unable/unwilling to respond substantively. The best you could do is repeat it. Until and unless you directly and substantively deal with the problems with your argument instead of just ranting, I will feel comfortable representing you as unreasonable.

secondly a semantic argument that the future does not exist. — Rank Amateur

You shall have to remind me what my complete misreading was of. As to the "semantic" argument that the future does not exist, I thought it was an existential argument. But you differ. Maybe this time you'll tell us: what, to your way of thinking is the future?

Don't waste my time with anything less than a direct answer. The future is....