Lets see the pictures and not major news of war being based on hear say

My twitter home page is full of crap from #BBC tweets and I don't even follow them and if I reply to tell them how stupid they are then my tweets for
the day all get blocked and this is how they are now force feeding us our propaganda theses days.

Don't get me wrong because I want Russia to invade and to hang the Nazi party officials in Kiev and then move on to showing the world who shot down
flight MH17 plus investigating the $5bn spent on starting the trouble in the Ukraine and even kicking NATO out of Europe because it is little more
than a US poodle dog but that's just a wet dream I guess

Well time that the BBC put up or shut up with these wild headlines because they look nothing but stupid to me

But i share your vieuw. But still we must not forget that the seperatists may have done terrible things too in this whole process. But somebody needs
to clean up those fascists in Kiev. Haven't we had enough nazi's in the world....

I see this starting to ramp up. The rhetoric used both by the US and Russia points to a much more serious relationship which is about to collapse.
The US economy is in tatters and what better way to give it a boost than to attack both the countries it owes most of its debt to and increase the
industrial was complex. If people point to lack of resources you only have to think if a war is declared a state of emergency will be put in place
with the President having to power to seize all land and resources/gold and put those who dont want to fight into work camps, possibly mining, labor
anything to contribute.
I know its coming and so do you, just look at the patterns running up to all of the big wars in history and you will see we are in the advanced
stages with the putting in place of the Russian sanctions.

Al i can say is be ready because once war is in motion the Government control over us will be forever. Not only will there be much less people to
fight back for their liberty but we will all be in a temporary emergency state and will never get those rights back.

a reply to: Annunak1
" But still we must not forget that the seperatists may have done terrible things too "

Was my family to be chased into a building and burnt alive like has happened in east Ukraine then I too would do terrible things and make sure the
Nazi's paid a price in Blood too.

Hitler did all this "Invading to save our friends" propaganda and both sides are trying it today but one side did not start or seek this war so I
will run with Putin who has (according to the press) 80% support from his people which is a lot more than Obama could ever muster up.

Every other week the BBC is getting protestors outside its offices in London over its bias media reporting and yesterday was no exception.

No and what I fear is even worse in that Russia might just be playing along with the USA with China being the real target.

As you know even if the Discovery Channel is trying to write it out of history in some of its poor quality propaganda programs that both Germany and
Russia invaded Poland as a team before they went to war with each other.

Yes as the dice look I can see that Russia does seem to be on the right side but that's not to say I trust them 100%

Time will tell and we will know the truth if Exxon, Shell and Bp are kicked off Russian soil that a full on war is on the books.

They keep repeating this same line over and over again, yet never present any evidence at all to back any of it up.
The OSCE monitors along the border have seen no movement of Russian forces or truckloads of arms and ammunition either.
I guess the rebels were well stocked with arms and ammunition from the depots they captured very early on, as well as arms captured from fleeing
government forces.

I guess old Porky and willing propaganda mouthpieces like the BBC will keep repeating it all over and over again though as they seem to think a lie,
often repeated, becomes the truth. In these modern times of on the ground reports, instant information uploads and citizen reporting, they have long
ago lost the propaganda war, yet keep trying anyway.

I mean, it's the BBC for heavens sake, they wouldn't lie to us! Would they?

​5th Russian convoy crosses Ukraine-Russia border, delivers aid to Lugansk
A Russian truck convoy carrying humanitarian aid, including food, construction materials, fuel and medicine has crossed the border into Ukraine after
going through inspections by Ukrainian border guards and customs officers. The convoy, dispatched by the Russian Ministry for Emergency Situations
(EMERCOM), was carrying more than 1,000 tons of relief aid, according to Oleg Voronov, deputy head of the ministry, as cited by TASS. More than 50
vehicles have arrived in Lugansk and are currently being unloaded, while 50 more are en route to Donetsk, says Voronov. This is the fifth such aid
convoy sent to war-torn southeastern Ukraine since August.

Of course those were not Ukrainian Ukrainian border guards, those were Russian Ukrainian border guards. So; five self documented waves,
plus the troops that invaded Crimea and the reinforcements on "maneuvers" on the Russian side of the border.

(Reuters) - Russia has refused to increase international monitoring of the border with Ukraine, the United States said on Wednesday, after
European security watchdog OSCE extended its observers' existing mandate at two checkpoints by a month.

......

Bosworth said it was "deeply regrettable" that Russia would not agree to expand the OSCE's monitoring work on the border.

"We once again have to accept a limited-scope mission, covering just two border checkpoints - which account for approximately one kilometer (0.6
miles) of the 2,300 kilometer border," she said in a statement.

originally posted by: Britguy
I guess the rebels were well stocked with arms and ammunition from the depots they captured very early on, as well as arms captured from fleeing
government forces.

originally posted by: Britguy
I guess old Porky and willing propaganda mouthpieces like the BBC will keep repeating it all over and over again though as they seem to think a lie,
often repeated, becomes the truth. In these modern times of on the ground reports, instant information uploads and citizen reporting, they have long
ago lost the propaganda war, yet keep trying anyway.

Russia did invade Ukraine. Putin stated as much when he stated the non insignia persons in Crimea were Russian soldiers.
How is that an invasion you ask? Because the "vote" for independence / joining Russia occurred AFTER Crimea's occupation by Russian forces.

The same Is occurring in the areas held by rebels.

originally posted by: Britguy
I mean, it's the BBC for heavens sake, they wouldn't lie to us! Would they?

I mean, it's RT for heavens sake, they wouldn't lie to us! Would they?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: VirusGuard
I guess the separatists are getting their ammo directly from God, then.

No they are getting their ammo from military bases in the east of Ukraine that were under the control of loyal forces in the area but if you want ammo
from God falling from the skys then best you fight for ISIS !

Silly USA was trying to drop ammo to the PKK (Another so called terrorist organisation) but instead dropped it on ISIS fighter.

Well aparently he tried to get poland in on it as well and they declined. Nothing more than a Putin land grab only a fool believes Putin is doing this
for the good of the people. Hes doing this to line his pockets by stealing the wealth from another nation who said imperialism is dead.

Your links once again provide nothing in the way of evidence, just more hearsay and speculation. Such "evidence" would be laughed out of any
court.

You can bet the US and other European states have every available satellite watching the area, but absolutely zero has been shown to back up any of
the claims of these "invasions". I mean, come on, the word "Invasion" is itself a complete joke. An invasion, if it were at all necessary, would
have happened long ago, using more than a few APC's and a couple of tanks.

Maybe though, the US is embroiled in so many wars of it's own creation right now, they don't have the satellites available to watch everywhere all
of the time.

a reply to: Xcathdra
I see so these satellites and under cover reporters cannot take any pictures because

"Russia blocks monitoring of more Ukraine border"

Looks like those Russians stole that invisibility cape the wizard of Oz was using.

"Actually I would wager they are getting their supplies from Russia."

Well I hope Russia has big pockets to level the field after the USA spend $5bn on the Kiev side.

" Putin stated as much when he stated the non insignia persons in Crimea were Russian soldiers. "

OK I will play along withy this so answer me how many people got killed before the overwhelming vote of the people in Crimea to side with Russia
????????? Only one according to sources and how many people has the Nazi thugs from Kiev murdered.

Those who think Russia isn't directly involved in Ukraine must have their head in the sand
There is no way the rebels would have the on-going support it has had (logistics,heavy armour/weapons) without outside help.

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