While crucifying NBC here seems appropriate I think they were in a no win situation. The episode will probably air eventually but they figured they would get less flak by pulling it for now then airing it and having various groups screaming about how NBC is insensitive to dead children.

While crucifying NBC here seems appropriate I think they were in a no win situation. The episode will probably air eventually but they figured they would get less flak by pulling it for now then airing it and having various groups screaming about how NBC is insensitive to dead children.

I could see that if the plot of the episode more closely resembled as to what happened in Boston.

However......

I understood why the movie theater shoot-up scene in "Gangster Squad" was taken out after what happened in Aurora.

Deadline (so BIG grain of salt) is reporting that they actually quietly circulated the scheduling change on Monday, before the bombing. Apparently the episode was shot before Sandy Hook and the story involved kids being brainwashed to kill other kids. This was also the only episode of the first six that wasn't sent out early to critics, so I'm thinking this issue was being discussed for quite some time.

All in all, it's probably the right call and has happened before and will undoubtedly (unfortunately) happen again.

An article that I saw yesterday said that the producer is going to put a synopsis on the web next week, where you can see the main plot points that keep the overall story going, without seeing the child murders.

I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time. Especially since NBC tends to cancel any show that is good so they can make room for America's Got Talented Voices that Survived Dancing with the Biggest Loser Diving Stars.

///still pissed about them cancelling Life.//haven't watched many NBC shows since

FeedTheCollapse:rugman11: FeedTheCollapse: r if they'll just push back the airdates for the other episodes as the show

It sounds like they're just skipping it and it'll only be available on the DVD or Netflix. It's still going to air overseas, though, so I'm sure it will be available through "other" means.

hm, unless the show is different from the other episodes in that it's a completely stand-alone plot, that's a terrible idea.

This is what one prominent critic wrote. I'm not too terribly worried.

"NBC sent five episodes to critics for advance review, but they weren't the first five. Instead, we got episodes 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6, with 4 skipped. And it was clear in watching the fifth episode (and the "Previously, on 'Hannibal'" clips before it) that some notable character and plot arc things had happened in between the hours I'd seen. It's not enough that you'll feel lost in what happens - particularly since the fifth episode is one of the strongest NBC sent - but you'll definitely feel like you're missing out on a few notable beats, particularly in the relationship between Will Graham and Jack Crawford.

I've reached out to NBC and Bryan Fuller for details on exactly what will be missed, and will update this post if/when I hear something. The good news is that the network plans on posting a number of relevant arc scenes from episode 4 online (either Monday or Tuesday, most likely), with Fuller introducing them, to fill in the gaps."

Rickj:I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

Mugato:Rickj: I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

tlchwi02:Mugato: Rickj: I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

oddly that description makes it sound awesome...

Go for it then. I'd rather something like that be on TV than yet another reality/karaoke show.

Mugato:tlchwi02: Mugato: Rickj: I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

oddly that description makes it sound awesome...

Go for it then. I'd rather something like that be on TV than yet another reality/karaoke show.

yeah I've watched the current episodes. liked the first one, hated the second, liked the 3rd again... as long as it doesn't get too caught up in its own weirdness I imagine it will continue to work. I just thought your description was funny because you started by saying you thought is wasn't that great, but then your description of the show sounded like something that would be pretty awesome

tlchwi02:I just thought your description was funny because you started by saying you thought is wasn't that great, but then your description of the show sounded like something that would be pretty awesome

Yeah, I may have sold it too much because I liked Twin Peaks a lot and it never reaches that level of weirdness. But the cop has hallucinations of moose and shiat and Hannibal just sort of looks on.

tlchwi02:Mugato: Rickj: I've only seen the first episode of this show so far, and it didn't grab me. A friend keeps telling me to watch more of it, but I don't know if it's worth the time

I've seen three episodes and it's not that great. Hannibal's hardly in it at all and when he is he just stands around looking menacing. Will (the cop who eventually catches him in Red Dragon/Manhunter) turns out to be the crazy one and has hallucinations and shiat. It's like a gorier CSI with a little Twin Peaks sprinkled in.

oddly that description makes it sound awesome...

I think so too. Will is an empath who is capable of recreating the crimes by putting himself in the place of the killer. These visions leave him pretty profoundly messed up. Then add to that the fact that he's required to see a shrink (Lecter) who pretty much messes with his head. I like it. It's much more about Graham than Lecter, but I think that's a good thing when it comes to building out an extended series like this.

rugman11:I think so too. Will is an empath who is capable of recreating the crimes by putting himself in the place of the killer. These visions leave him pretty profoundly messed up. Then add to that the fact that he's required to see a shrink (Lecter) who pretty much messes with his head. I like it. It's much more about Graham than Lecter, but I think that's a good thing when it comes to building out an extended series like this.

I kind of like that we get to see lecter in his zone. none of the restrictions that the movies (not counting that terrible prequel one) placed on him. and the bond villain guy is a fantastic choice, he plays subtle evil like a harp

rugman11:Deadline (so BIG grain of salt) is reporting that they actually quietly circulated the scheduling change on Monday, before the bombing. Apparently the episode was shot before Sandy Hook and the story involved kids being brainwashed to kill other kids. This was also the only episode of the first six that wasn't sent out early to critics, so I'm thinking this issue was being discussed for quite some time.

All in all, it's probably the right call and has happened before and will undoubtedly (unfortunately) happen again.

Reminds me of the pre-9/11 Lone Gunmen episode where evil forces inside the gov't try to crash a loaded jet into the Trade Center so they can blame terrorists and start another war but the plucky hackers stop them. I don't even know if anyone plays that episode anymore.

While crucifying NBC here seems appropriate I think they were in a no win situation. The episode will probably air eventually but they figured they would get less flak by pulling it for now then airing it and having various groups screaming about how NBC is insensitive to dead children.

I could see that if the plot of the episode more closely resembled as to what happened in Boston.

However......

I understood why the movie theater shoot-up scene in "Gangster Squad" was taken out after what happened in Aurora.

I wonder if they're going to include that scene in the Blu-Ray's deleted scenes. To be perfectly honest, the rest of that movie was so forgettable that I'm not going to bother buying it, but I'm really curious to see what the scene was all about.

I haven't watched this show yet but I've heard its a good Dexter replacement. However if you've already got filler episodes in your first season that can be skipped without screwing with storyline...not interested anymore.

If they pulled episodes every time something violent happened in this country, we'd be living in Sideshow Bob's dream world. I guess when the episode does air (and when all the previous episodes aired), it will be/was a big "fark you" to other recent violent crime victims and their families.

Did the bombs blow the channel buttons off all the remotes in Boston? If not, there may be a way those who don't want violent imagery can avoid seeing the show. If the network feels the show is that bad, they should take it off the air and stop making it. Otherwise, quit it with this pointless bullshiat.

Precision Boobery:If they pulled episodes every time something violent happened in this country, we'd be living in Sideshow Bob's dream world. I guess when the episode does air (and when all the previous episodes aired), it will be/was a big "fark you" to other recent violent crime victims and their families.

Did the bombs blow the channel buttons off all the remotes in Boston? If not, there may be a way those who don't want violent imagery can avoid seeing the show. If the network feels the show is that bad, they should take it off the air and stop making it. Otherwise, quit it with this pointless bullshiat.

I think it's people looking for things to be outraged about, and things they can have control over.

I remember last year after Aurora, people demanded Madonna take guns out of her show.

After Newtown, people were getting outraged at Ke$ha's "Die Young".

People seem to like bullying entertainment avenues, because NBC isn't likely to shoot back. I know, it's irrational. I don't think networks really owe people "respect" in that regard. They're not trying to spite anyone.

And I don't think a writer should compromise the story they're trying to tell because someone might be overly sensitive to the content. Bad shiat happens and is a catalyst for action, and stories aren't entertaining without action.

Go watch the Disney Channel if you're looking for stuff that's not going to offend you. I'm sure they have shiat on at 6 am that is bland and inoffensive unless you're particularly chafed by bright colors and smiling faces.