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Are All Women Like That?

There’s an acronym in red pill speak AWALT which is short for “all women are like that” in reference to the idea that all women have a certain set of operating principles that drive female behavior.

Often women who comment on red pill blogs will reject this idea and say NAWALT, short for “Not all women are like that.” Sometimes male bloggers will acknowledge the feelings of female readers with the NAWALT disclaimer, or it will be said to keep female readers from taking the red pill discussion or concepts too personally, which can right quick derail any productive inter-gender discussion.

A less often seen version is EWALT or “enough women are like that” which means enough women prove the rule to make the general assumption valid.

So are AWLT? Even me? The longer I honestly examine myself and women around me the more I have to admit yes, AWALT. Even if they won’t admit, can’t admit, or wish they were not. Like it or not, AWALT. Yep. Even me.

It’s called the female imperative, and it is deeply ingrained in all women and it is what makes women different from men.

TRIGGER WARNING:

And yes, women are different from men on almost every level (right down to each and every cell, even) because the experience, upsides, and downsides and all the rest of being a woman are totally different than those of a man. Women and men are not the same, not at all.

If it helps any, men have their own imperative which means AMALT.

The rules of society, largely jettisoned about 40 years ago, were what kept a cap on both gender’s imperatives. Or as they say, nobody got everything they wanted but everybody got some of what they wanted, and it was enough of a give and take that it was largely pretty functional and stable.

That world no longer exists, except in remote pockets of closed off religious sects. For the rest of us that means hell in a hand basket, a new world order, and almost everything you have been told is true or the way it works is not anymore, which btw isn’t working very well. (Don’t believe me? Just look around.)

Yep AWALT and AMALT. Society has subverted these truths but that has not changed them.

Don’t blame me, I didn’t design men or women, nor was I involved in the decision to radically change “the way it works” in what was perhaps the biggest social experiment of all time. (Thanks “Me” Generation! Said sarcastically.)

Like you, I am (as one manosphereian so aptly put it) simply sorting through the wreckage. Sorry if I am the first to deliver the news.

We can’t choose our imperative directives, or society, but hopefully on an individual level at least, we can recognize this and try to transcend the worst of our natural tendencies and to nurture the best rather than to be blindly driven around by them. Like it used to be.

The only way to not be like that is to
1) know you are like that
2) always guard yourself to not be like that

Which also means we will all fail and be just like that from time to time.

Then the questions become
how often do we fail and behave just like that?
How do we correct the cam he we do when we fuck up (or even if we do nee to address it)?
How do we prevent ourselves from fucking up in the future? ( if needs be, lots of things we do are minor infractions, doing no real harm, requiring no remedial action)

“An imperative they may have.
But individual it is.
No Team.Man there would be.”

But Yoda, what about the ebul oppressive patriarchy out to get team women? I hear a lot about that. Doesn’t team women need to ban together against those brutish bully men? Why what would team women do then???

Thank you my darling though you don’t want to get caught cheerleading do you……

I would also say there is no unified male imperative. In broad terms? Sure. Get laid, spawn kids. Then there are more ways of going about it then I can count…. without taking off my boots and dropping my britches. I think this has to do with a man’s multiple possible uses in a tribe/ clan, where women are much more specialized. A dude can be a killer of men and be useful, a killer of deer and be useful, watch fish and be useful, build tools and be useful etc etc. A woman? Drop litters of kids, tend to them and do something low investment when the liter leaves some free time

Also I think the female imperative is more damaging due to its hidden nature, played on the margins with layers of deception and subterfuge.

Redpillgirlnotes,
Good to see you back at your blog.
Of the three, I think EWALT may be the most damaging to women’s interest. Factoring that in on a back of the enveope calculation, itakes things from feasible to not.
As for the male imperative, I would say that it is very close to God’s admonition “to be fruitful and multiply”. In any event, It’s upfront and out in the open, nothing covert about it. Heck, the female imperitive is so covert, few women are aware of it.

I am not dismayed fuzzie, I think you saying what the male imperative is makes the entire thread! Lol. 🙂 I was going to guess the same but, ahem, didnt have the courage to lay it out there straight like that. Yep. It’s all about…ahem.

Redpillgirlnotes,
Tes! Food id very important. Women who make food and care enough to share it with men win lots of bonus points.
When I said “dismayed”, I meant the lack of comments and likely lack of views. It’ll be a while getting your following back.

Yes, all people are like that. If people weren’t like that (solipsistic) Communism would actually work, and we would need very few rules or laws to make people behave. We wouldn’t even need locks on doors.

I really need to break myself of this mind hickup that is my internet habit (and I need to stay out of Rollo’s comment section). It sucks because I enjoy discussing this stuff and there are so few avenues for it.

There’s more than one, Bloom. That place reminds me of my old middle school bus.
Shame on me for even reading. But there are a few people who I respect who participate there and I like to read their opinions (mostly from JFG, but a few others too). I’ll need to just refrain from reading though.

@ Liz I get what you mean, adbg is there, and bad painter, and he’ll hound, and several other j4g guys. And actually when I just ignored the faux alpha tard whatever the fu(k, and then carried on (while proving myself friend not foe) I found the guys at rollo’s were quite nice and we had good conversation very reminiscent of the in-depth banter once had at j4g. So maybe I am wrong but I don’t think man-friendly rp savvy commenters aren’t welcome there, but it is most definitely not for the thin skinned or feint of heart. Neither of which btw I would consider you. Just ignore any flame thrown your way initially and power on. Old friends are there and while none white knighted (which I did not want or expect bc it would have only made matters more polarized) I knew they had my back just the same. As they would yours.

These conversations are not only worth having, I believe them to be absolutely essential. And a few savvy chicks sprinkled in only adds to that, IMHO. So often I see guys will be trying to understand chick behavior and getting it but not quite and as a girl I can see instantly “well no, she’s actually thinking xyz” and I believe there is value in that. Messy as it can be (remember path 1 vs/2???) I think (hope) you and me participating adds valuable data to the rp analysis, not detracts or intentionally obscures like non rp friendly/troll female participants might.

But I don’t want anyone to have my back. The only thing that would do is put them in a position of white knighting and pointless ridicule.
There was one poster on a thread here a while back who stood up to one of the offenders (not for me, I wasn’t posting then…can’t remember the name) well, he isn’t posting anymore.

One poster in particular (who seems to be in a better mood lately, perhaps he goes through manic cycles…he should have seven different aliases for his different personalities, kind of like the seven dwarves ‘grumpy’, ‘toxic’, ‘compost’, ‘tard’, ‘happy’, ‘semi-reasonable’, and ‘insipid’) has chased away many many good (male) posters. It’s not worth the frustration to try to have a conversation when you’re getting hit by rotten eggs on all sides…it’s almost equally frustrating to watch it happen to others.

ADBG mentioned he was trying to start a family. I was the only person who responded with a cyber highfive. No one else gave enough of a fuck to even acknowledge what he said. Then I offer a word of encouragement and it’s jumped on as “all about meeeee..” solipsism.

I wasn’t refuting any points, just a statement of encouragement. The same idiot who lampoons me goes on share for a hundred lines about trying to get sloppy 50ths with some person he can’t stand to hold a conversation with.

Liz, the reason men are leery of so called red pill girls commenting is they very quickly take over whatever forum their in and make it about themselves. Whether or not that’s the intention that’s what happens if the red pill girls are given free reign.

“Anyway like I said I think I have found him and he’s one of the smartest, upstanding character, accomplished men I have ever met. And a red pill blogger. I would be lucky to be his wife, something he’s btw asking me to consider after watching me and my rp awakening for nearly two years. Life is funny like that. Cheers!”

Now I am absolutely going to die of curiosity. I may seriously die. Don’t let me die, please….PLLEEEEEZZ. Just make someone up if you don’t want to tell me.
I’m Italian, I’ll totally forgive prevarication and bullshit, I just can’t forgive a tease.
😛

” “Anyway like I said I think I have found him and he’s one of the smartest, upstanding character, accomplished men I have ever met. And a red pill blogger. I would be lucky to be his wife, something he’s btw asking me to consider after watching me and my rp awakening for nearly two years. Life is funny like that. Cheers!” ”

The man o sphere is you know for men so there are a lot of places ladies are not particularly welcome. Women bring their own agenda an men are right to be suspicious of women commentators

Rollo’s pulls in a lot of dudes who are still in the psychological 1st.aide stage and women are particularly unwelcome to them. As welcome as you two darlings are at my place that is not so everywhere and that’s the way it should be

In defense of Rollo Tomassi and his blog commenters, it’s a lot worse on other sites like CH. Probably because Rollo’s posts are so long and well thought out, it tends to discourage more of the trolls and bitter pill swallowers that plague the Manosphere.

This is one example where Reddit is far more helpful. With the up/down voting and attempt at posting standards, forums like /r/theredpill and /r/MGTOW are far less burdensome to read. Trolls tend to get down voted into obscurity.