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I'd love to have one.... :)http://www.osnews.com/thread?83991
http://www.osnews.com/thread?83991I'd love to have one of those babies

I'd prolly overclock them to fx-57 speed (2.8), but even without overclock it is a sweet proc.

I don't think it's worth the upgrade cash though for me. I have a 57, not gonna shell another grand for a 60. Unless someone is willing to "help" me out with the bill

I read someplace (I beleive at theinquirer.net), that the FX-57 is still more performant than the 60. Slowing the clock down 200MHz really affected the gaming performance such that it doesn't surpass the fx57. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Still nice to have around though, can't deny that.

--ZaNkYTue, 10 Jan 2006 15:43:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (ZaNkY)CommentsNot really a gaming CPUhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?83994
http://www.osnews.com/thread?83994Almost all games are single threaded, for gaming you would want an FX-57 if you are trully "hard core".Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:55:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Jeeeb)CommentsPriceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84006
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84006From

Why pay $200 more for worst performance ?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:39:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (visconde_de_sabugosa)CommentsRE: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84010
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84010why pay over a couple hundred dollars for a CPU! Those prices are nutts! Especially when i have no trouble playing the latest games with a decent Video card and a 2 year old 2.4Ghz HT Pentium 4.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:43:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Smartpatrol)CommentsFPShttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84014
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84014Its all about FPS and screen resolution.

Let the gamers get what they want. Non gamers could never understand them Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:55:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (mcduck)CommentsRE: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84016
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84016You obviously have a weak understanding of processor performance. Multi-threaded applications = close to 2x the speed of the FX-57. Multi-threaded, dual-core optimized games (like UT 2007) = significant performance improvements.

Multi-threading/dual cores are the future. UT2007 is the first of many games that will show up to take advantage of dual cores, and eventually require dual cores,Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:00:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Tom K)CommentsRE: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84019
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84019... Because:
A. Newer games (Quake4 (both Linux and Windows), Battlefield 2 (Windows) and others) already added SMP support.
B. If you, like me, rather not stop your daily work just to play Doom3, SMP is the only option. (Hence my dual Opteron machine)

For 200$ you potentially get 80% increase in performance.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:02:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (gilboa)CommentsRE[2]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84021
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84021sed 's/Battlefield 2/COD2/g'Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:05:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (gilboa)CommentsRE[2]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84022
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84022Hmm, try playing FEAR on that thing. I played it on my brother's 2.2 GHz Athlon64 with an X800XL, and I definitely had to turn down a lot of the setttings to get things smooth.

OT: FEAR is an awesome game! First program in years that made me wish I a Windows machine. Is it too much to hope for a Mac port?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:06:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (rayiner)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84028
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84028FEAR is almost completely GPU bound even with the newest generation of graphics cards, so getting a faster CPU isn't going to help much.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:21:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (smitty)CommentsRE: Real Gamershttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84042
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84042You do realize that majority of gamers are not into first person shooters? I do not consider those I know who do not play FPS to not be "real" gamers.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:51:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (bluarash)CommentsRE[2]: Real Gamershttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84047
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84047Okay, I'm intrigued. What's makes a real gamer?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:07:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (microshag)CommentsRE[3]: Real Gamershttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84055
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84055Uber microTue, 10 Jan 2006 18:28:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (robojerk)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84060
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84060When Mactel's come out, get Cadega.http://www.transgaming.com/products_mac.phpTue, 10 Jan 2006 18:40:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (robojerk)CommentsRE[2]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84061
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84061How can you "require" dual cores? It's not like it's impossible to run multiple threads on the same CPU. Sure it won't be true concurrency, but it'll still operate.

Also, let's assume the game needs two threads to run in true concurrency. These threads will be able to run well on dual processor systems too.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:44:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (klynch)Comments@bluarashhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84071
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84071//You do realize that majority of gamers are not into first person shooters?//

What he is saying is FPS isn't everything there are 5 Million subscribers that play World of Warcraft a MMORPG. You do not need a $1000 Dual Core processor in order to play WoW. You do need the latest and greatest CPU/Video Card combo with 8 gigs of RAM and a Terabyte raid if you want to look cool to all your friends running Quake 4 at 200 FPS. I am happy with my sub $1000 Machine that runs Quake 4 at 50 FPS.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:31:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Smartpatrol)CommentsRE[2]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84127
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84127If you, like me, rather not stop your daily work just to play Doom3, SMP is the only option. (Hence my dual Opteron machine)

I'm not quite certain how one does one's daily work while playing Doom 3. Unless one's work is sitting about waiting.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:57:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (eMagius)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84139
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84139Here's the difference between UNI and SMP.
I don't need to go take a cup of coffee just because my machine is building.
I don't need to stop burning a DVD, if I want to play Doom3/Quake4.
I don't need to leave my machine alone, just because I'm backing it up.

In short,
I can play Quake4, burn a DVD and download the new kernel source concurrently... without suffering from a massive FPS drop.

Can you?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:22:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (gilboa)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84147
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84147transcoding DVD to x264 or snow maybe (~10 hrs on 3GHz)? compiling latest gnome, firefox, ooo ? Why not, or linux scheduler do not so cool as rumored ?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:32:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (STTS)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84153
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84153You can "require" dual cores because a single-core processor will not be able to provide sufficient performance at some point in the future. Even if you have a 3.0 GHz Athlon 64, and the game requires ~5.0 GHz of processing power (it will happen, not soon, but it will), no single-core CPU will be capable of it, thus in essence saying "you need dual cores".

Single-core performance has more or less peaked for the forseeable future. That's why there's such a push for dual cores and multithreading now.

As for dual-processor systems ... yeah, but dual-processor is a lot more expensive than dual-core. Consumers will all be on dual-core sooner or later.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:43:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Tom K)CommentsRE: Not really a gaming CPUhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84156
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84156This is changing, in no small part due to the nature of the XBox 360 and PS3. Expect future engines that target consoles and PCs to make use of multithreading. There was also a recent Quake 4 patch that provided impressive gains on multicore processors.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:44:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)CommentsRE[3]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84159
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84159I don't see Jupiter EX being ported, so yes it's probably too much to hope for a Mac port.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:48:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)CommentsRE: @bluarashhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84164
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84164Doom 3 wishes it competed with The Sims.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:54:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)CommentsRE[3]: Real Gamershttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84206
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84206Somebody that play games? Having the latest processor, GPU or console isn't required. Those who brag about having the newest hardware while dissing the average RPG or sim player are usually posers rather than gamers.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:45:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Wrawrat)CommentsHow hot is Intel's PEE?http://www.osnews.com/thread?84247
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84247This must be that brilliant re-branding I've been hearing about, so far I'd have to say it's pretty good but is this really the image Intel is looking for?Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:29:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Sphinx)CommentsRE: Not really a gaming CPUhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84290
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84290The processor is fast enough for current games, and future CPU intensive games will be multithreaded. It offers 93% of Athlon 64 FX-57 single-threaded CPU performance, and almost twice CPU performance for future multicore optimized games. Also, the bottleneck for current games is the graphics card, not the CPU.Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:52:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (dmytro)CommentsRE[2]: Not really a gaming CPUhttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84361
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84361The processor is fast enough for current games, and future CPU intensive games will be multithreaded. It offers 93% of Athlon 64 FX-57 single-threaded CPU performance, and almost twice CPU performance for future multicore optimized games. Also, the bottleneck for current games is the graphics card, not the CPU.

Certainly, but that doesn't stop "hard core" gamers going out and buying the absoloute top of the line gaming CPUs.

This is changing, in no small part due to the nature of the XBox 360 and PS3. Expect future engines that target consoles and PCs to make use of multithreading. There was also a recent Quake 4 patch that provided impressive gains on multicore processors.

Certainly, but the target audience of this CPU is "hard core" gamers who will buy top of the line now and top of the line again when it becomes neccesary. Atm. no major LAN tournament games need a multithreaded CPU (that's Counter Strike: Source, Age of Empires 3, .etc.).Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:27:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Jeeeb)CommentsThis is PR!!! for AMD!http://www.osnews.com/thread?84446
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84446The Opteron 165 Dual Core, and the A64 3800+ X2 Overclock easy onstock cooling beyond 2.8 Ghz, AMD knows, but they still had to pull a new PR stunt. Gotta lovethose opteron 165's, the go for about $316 at ZipZoomFly, couple that with a Epox nForce 4 Ultra and some OCZ, and you got the whole thing for under $500... FX is a expensive line of chips for folks that have enough money to trow at the dogs... or to whipe their buts with it...Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:04:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (wolfman3k5)Commentsmulti-threading has been around for a long timehttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84488
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84488The linux kernal has multiple threads for a while and can be run single-core.
multi-core won't be a requirement, it will certainly be a advantage.
doom3 has multithreads without any patches.
Can i have the link for the quake 4 multi-core patch,its proberly a 64 bit patch not multi-core as that does not make sense.

I think know one has understood that multi-core is basically an efficent design in using more than one proccessor, the linux kernal shows dual cores as two seperate proccessors not new technology.

Whenever the new amd socket am2 arrives there will still be single core chips made for it.Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:15:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (lobster)Comments@Get a Lifehttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84569
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84569//Doom 3 wishes it competed with The Sims.//

The Sims wishes it competed with real life.

Normal folk play games to *escape* reality, not imitate it -- or what they wish it was.

You don't know what you're talking about.Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:39:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)CommentsRE: @Get a Lifehttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84695
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84695Yep. The Sims outsells Doom 3 and your retort is a comment about reality. Well done, sir.Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:41:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)Comments RE: multi-threading has been around for a long http://www.osnews.com/thread?84799
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84799http://theinquirer.net/?article=28367

Read the above article
look at the orleans and minilla range there are all single coreWed, 11 Jan 2006 22:36:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (lobster)CommentsRE: RE: multi-threading has been around for a long http://www.osnews.com/thread?84890
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84890Who cares?Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:17:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (Get a Life)CommentsRE[4]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?84956
http://www.osnews.com/thread?84956Yes. I have a KVM switch Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:35:00 GMTdonotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper)CommentsRE[5]: Priceshttp://www.osnews.com/thread?85084
http://www.osnews.com/thread?85084Yep.
Somehow the idea of have 3 different machines, each with its own set of hardware (video, disk, MB, CPU, memory, etc) and software components (OS/Office/what-ever license if you are using Windows) seems less logical then having a single SMP machine that does everything simultaneously.