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The Arab Spring – Sharia or Democracy?

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L. A. Marzulli

While I would assume many americans are watching the Casey Anthony trial, the Middle East continues in its upheaval. As of this post there have been upward of 1000 murders by Syrian troops firing on their own people who are protesting, Yemen is on the verge of an all out civil war, and Egypt is sliding into secular chaos. Saudi Arabia is pumping billions of dollars into programs and aid in to its own people in order to shore up the monarchy, and forestall a revolution.

Those who are not Moslems are being singled out as is evidenced by the church burnings and killings of Christians, in Egypt, after the ouster of former president Hosni Mubarak. Egypt is no longer a safe place for Christians and many have already fled the country. I have stated this before and with the stories lined up one after another in the Other News section it seems to me that Islam will rule the day and we will see the implementation of Sharia law. Here’s why…

Islam has been the dominant ideological force for 1300 years and will continue in that role. Two weeks ago I BLOGGED about the Third Intifada which thankfully didn’t materialize into an all out regional war, against Israel. Last week our president called for Israel to go back to its pre 1967 borders, which as president Benjamin Netanyahu immediately responded, are indefensible. The United Nations is now calling for the creation of an independent Palestinian state. It would appear from what is being run up the international flag pole, that push is going to come to shove and the international community will force the dividing of the Jewish state. Netanyahu has stated that Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel and will remain so. Meanwhile HAMAS has stated that Israel should go back to its 1948 borders. Of course what is telling about this statement is that Israel didn’t exist before 1948. HAMAS refuse to recognize Israel….

In Closing Todays Post: We are told specifically in the Bible – the guide-book to the Supernatural – that in the latter days the Jewish people would be gathered from the four corners of the earth and established in its ancient boundaries. This has happened and now, at some point, we will see the fulfillment of Psalm 83, Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38. In my opinion The Arab Spring is being fueled by unseen supernatural forces that have a hatred of the Jewish people and Israel. I believe that we will see sharia law rule the day…. when that happens the Islamic world will go against their common enemy Israel and war will come.

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HATE to be offtopic here La but this one just burns me up… a few of the new age paranormal groups are now saying that having a bible in your home opens up a gateway for demonic attacks. They are infiltrating every aspect of christian society in efforts to scare,mimic or just plain fraudulently lie in order to destroy the lost’s salvation. Anyways just thought Id bring this up incase some had not heard this newest tactic. God bless ya!

For people already being manipulated by Satan ~ a Bible in their home would definately open up demonic attacks. Satan doesn’t want New Agers reading the truth. That could pull them away from his grasp.

Do demons have a perfered translation as there are indeed translations that are false like the NIV and in every case the guys who did false Scripture translations lost their voices just as God said would happen if they did that.

YIKES! I filled my Bible with notes and highlights long ago and keep it in the box it came in (barley fits now with all the news clips and stuff….have to keep a heavy duty rubber band on it) Anyway, my thought has been that if anything happens to me that it may enlighten someone else when they find it. Since we have such a head start (Thanks to L.A. and other cyber watchmen!) the notes I tucked in to help someone connect the dots may help save a soul?
I also put a note way at the back of my prepper pantry that says:
If you are in this cabinet because I have passed away or you have had to put me in a home (ha ha) then enjoy and use it all with love from Mama and take my Bible from the living room too!
If you are here because you have no other place to turn and need to steal from me….take what you need but take the Bible on the coffee table too. It will help you. Jesus is your only hope!
If you have done something bad to me to get this far, I forgive you in Jesus name and please, take my Bible in the other room that you are looting. The greatest treasure in this house is in it. Jesus saves!

May make my kids really think mom was truly off the deep end but then again….

Nomemoleste! I have thought about the defense question and just know myself….I could not kill to save myself….don’t know, maybe for my kids or grandchildren but I won’t have a gun because I would hesitate and they would still kill me and I’d have just put another weapon in criminal hands!
I even had a weird thought once while I was driving 70 on the freeway….if there was a pretrib rapture after all and Christ took me, would I have a split second to aim the soon to be empty vehicle toward an empty field instead of into traffic in case it would save a soul in the oncoming traffic to find Christ before the end!

Matthew 18:6
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Hi John B,
I read your assertions and I agree with you totally. You are right. Yet, I have been Messianic since 1990, and I’ve never heard these postulations from a Messianic person or leader. Are you sure you have your terms right? I think that is all we disagree on. Did you watch the Larry Feldman clip?
Blessings,
Jacqueline

Hi Jacqueline; no I did no watch it my computer takes to long to download.I cannot remember the names of these Messianic teachers except for Root. It is not just The Messianic, I have heard Haggi,Showers of the dispensation camp teach these things.

Here is something to ponder: Regardless of our race or denomination for that matter, when the Spirit of God dwells within, we are all Sons and daughters of God, all having received the True circumcision, that of the Heart.
In the early church this division about Two christian camps Jewish & gentile was settled at the Jerusalem council when Apostle Paul brought the reports of gentiles receiving the Same Spirit.
Back then all were Christians.
Apostle Paul took great pains to stress this truth in many of His letters.(there is no more Jew , no more Gentile ect… only the new creation in Christ Jesus)
It seems that in these end days this Jewish supremacy attitude is come back into the body, even I would say with a degree of Judaism attached. One just has to look at Root with His stress on keeping of Feasts.
It is not Apostolically correct to say that The messiah is coming again because He has come as prophesied establishing the will and purpose of God by the reconciliation of Sinners by Grace.
The Spirit has already been given As the prophets and Jesus said it would be at Pentecost.
As far as I am concerned sister You and i are Both the apple of God’s eye, carved into the palm of His hand.

“It is not Apostolically correct to say that The messiah is coming again…”

If the Messiah is not comimg again, what do you believe the sequence of events from here on will be?

Please clarify for me, are you a “scoffer”?

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 2 Peter 3:3-4.

It’s too bad you can’t watch a clip of that video! It would clarify so much! Larry Feldman is a Messianic congregational leader and specifically talks about “dual covenant theory” and condemns it as from the devil. Dual covenant basically says that being Jewish is enough to go to heaven and that Jews don’t need Jesus. It’s not a Messianic idea, it originates from within the church.

Of course Jew and Gentile are one; Jesus did that for us on the cross. Of course you and I are equally the apple of His eye! It really is not a supremacy thing or a denial of what Jesus did on the cross! Messianic Judaism is really about being able to reach out to our Jewish brothers and sisters with THEIR Messiah. Remember how Paul said he was “all things to all men, so that by all means,” he “might save some?” Why wouldn’t a Jewish believer keep their Jewishness? Have you ever celebrated a Passover, John? It is a feast that God commanded be kept eternally! And in keeping it, we see the prophecies about Messiah being a spotless Lamb, slain, with blood applied, to save the observer from certain death.

Messianic Judaism is about understanding the Messianic prophecies that saturate the Hebrew bible and proclaiming Him to the Jewish people so they can be saved. God isn’t finished with Israel!

Jacqueline, I celebrate the lord’s supper which is the transitional OT passover into the NT. we are to do this in remembrance of Him until he comes.

Maureen; Jesus is coming again to judge the living and the dead , he is not coming as Messiah.that was his earthly ministry, to the Jews and the gentiles. He is not coming to save anybody he is coming to judge all man in the Day of wrath. Today if you hear His voice harden not your Hearts Today is the day of salvation by Grace Grace ends with judgment.

I didn’t see the video about the Peru UFO… However, what automatically began playing was a discussion about how a “research group” from Canada has discovered that the Bible was “massively mistranslated”. :(

You said in your blog today “Last week our president called for Israel to go back to its pre 1967 borders, which as president Benjamin Netanyahu immediately responded, are indefensible.”

Along your line of thinking here I find it pretty interesting that after President Obama called for this we have had a week of storms that will cost our country billions. Thinking that we should defend Israel’s borders and rights to exist or we could find our right to exist in peril.

“I believe demons demand and are attracted to blood sacrifice because it has something to do with legal access to this dimension. Didn’t the spirit of the Lord pass between the pieces of Abraham’s sacrifice? And of course the significance of the blood of Christ! True vampirism is also tied into this theme.”

Legal access is certainly beyond what I’ve considered before which could explain much. It need not be exclusive with Dizdar’s assertions about satanic sacrifices involving torture to “increase the energy” that attracts demons.

I’ve thought of it more like sharks going into a frenzy around blood. Reflecting on your point about “dry places” and the spirits of the nephilim … seeking bodies to dwell in and control … as giants they ate humans. So they may still be attracted to blood and butchery.

Perhaps the fallen are more interested in legal access or controlling those that commit atrocities, since they can get them to do more against God or for their own purposes?

So on one hand there are the spirits of the nephilim (frenzies) and on the other demons (legal rights).

You are absolutely right. The negative energy is a HUGE component of it.They are subject to operating in the negative energy that is of their nature. That IS a big part of the satanic ritual. They “charge up” on the negative energy of heinous acts.

I also think this ties into the Gaga garbage. I think they are gaining a bigger and bigger foothold with each household that plays her trash. All of the satanic ritual abuse of the innocent by “priests” is a systematic MACHINE! Its not a coincidence that all these priests are just “perverts”! It is deliberate.There is an agenda. Like you stated before, they are generating so much of this evil energy to produce portals. I honestly believe we will see them ‘step over’ into our realm in the last day battle. It seems to tie into “sightings” throughout history. These sightings will become more frequent and tangible as we enter into these last days!

I was also going to comment on the way the giants ATE people. Well, you know how I spoke about how demons COVET? This is a big part of why they consumed people. Im sure you’ve heard of the different tribes such as the Māori. You know that the concept is to obtain the “strength” of your enemy by eating him. WELL, the giants were notorious for eating humans because they wanted something man had that they DIDNT! They gained the whole world with their might but HAD no souls…They are acutely away of their fates as well.

Interesting theory on why they ate humans, Bon. I understand they ate any living thing as well.

Say, what if some of those dinosaur bones that are found where we are TOLD a T Rew or what not at them are REALLY the result of a Giant’s leftovers? Makes youthink, doesn’t it. I have a DVD that claims there is no proof any dinosaur ate meat. We just go my teeth shapes which can be wrong when there are animals alive today with meat eating teeth who eat only plants like the Panda.

Thats funny you should mention the T-Rex Cap! My son and I were watching one of the Jurassic Park movies just last night! I was saying to my son that I always thought there may have been more to the T-Rex than it just being a “dumb animal”…What if it were intelligent? What if it were some kind of reptilian hybrid? What if it could talk? cue the Twilight Zone music….I mean just look at his deformed arms! There is just something unnatural about him. My son said,”Yeah, he’s kinda like a dragon and dragons are depicted as speaking alot.”

I remember as a little girl, I went to the museum and saw a T-Rex replica. I got the creepiest impression that the thing spoke! LOL!

Bon – Steve Quayle believes dinosaurs were hibreds but I disagree. I believe they were just other creatures God created and accounts of them co-existing with man were frequent up until the 1800’s. I have a book that talks about 2 cowboys shooting down a Pterodactyl in the 1880’s. The creature they described is the same and there is no way they could have faked it because, unlike today, dinosaur types were not as well known as they are today, especially in the American west.

There was also at least 2 dinosaur types who could breathe fire. We know this because they have a chamber above their nostrils with the same chemical that makes a firefly light up. Why else would that chemical be there and read in Job about them snorting fire.

I believe the bible says life is in the blood. Just like God requires the shedding of blood for remission of sin. Lucy defiles and wants blood spilled to mock God. I believe some of the gentile dino’s were made by God, His word does say He created man to have dominion over all the creatures created. I honestly believe in the book of Enoch, it does say “they” began to sin against,reptiles, fish,birds. If you look at some of the dinosaurs, like raptors and ones that were predators were the ones that were defiled by the watchers. This is only my belief and could be wrong.

But how do we know that the T-Rex and Raptors even ate meat? It’s all speculation. We also know that after the Curse of Adam the animals began to eat each other. This did not happen before the fall. That makes me ask if there were meat eating dinos why wouldn’t they be God created?

The problem I have with dinosaurs being the result of dephiled lizards is you’d need to end up with the same creature at least twice to have that new species going on and on. It’s why I reject evolution on the same grounds. By sheer chance you get 2 similar creatures to create a new species? I don’t know if you’d get the same dinosaur result with a fallen angel mating with a lizard twice.

Also think about this. When man has recorded living with dinos AKA dragons we don’t getthe same stories science tells us about pack hunting animals. It’s always about a dragon who eats live stock and people or plants, just like any other animal. This leads me to believe they were not like the creatures seen in Jurassic Park which is claimed to be accurate.

Cap,what is the bible talking about with “clean” and “unclean” animals? Why would God create “unclean” animals?

Teeth shape are pretty indicative of function…A T-Rex could not be a herbivore because you have to have grinding molars to process vegetation. Bovine teeth arent even enough to process it. They have a totally different stomach system that adds digestive enzymes and then it returns to the mouth to be ground again. Raw meat is easy to digest. Its because of the cell-wall structures.

Bon – Animals became unclean after the fall. The criteria of an animal being clean and unclean had to do with carried diseases. This is why animals like rodents and pigs were deemed unclean as they were ripe carriers of diseases. Your logic would make me ask why would God create rebellion and sin? The answer is He didn’t. Those things are corruptions of His perfect work.

But sharp teeth do not always prove function. I used to believe they did until I watched a film on Dinosaurs in the Bible that pointed out herbivores like Pandas who have carnivore teeth. It is yet another lie of modern science to prove evolution is fact that the shape of something indicates function. To further prove this point, if all the animals began as herbivores then why would ANY have carnivore teeth? I also don’t see how the fallen angels mating with lizards would result in carnivore teeth. Even the aliens stories prove they have no control over how their genetic manipulation results. How could they get that result frequently enough to create a new species?

The Leviathan and the Behemoth are both mentioned in Job as God’s creations and both can only be dinosaurs. Read he descriptions. Some claim He is describing Satan but in the context God is showing animals in nature everyone is familiar with. This isn’t a section on Satan or fallen angels.

I believe that just as the serpent is some kind of manifestation of the fallen one(serpent/dragon), birds seem to have some kind of association with the RIGHTEOUS angels and Gods messengers. You will see these themes all throughout the bible. I think the similarities between birds and reptiles have something to do with two different versions of a “kind”.

I dont want to go on and on about the physiology but there are fascinating mechanisms to observe. Just ONE thing that pops out at me is the fact that their(both birds and reptiles) RBC’s all have nuclei and look the same(oval shaped).There is interesting parallels with the whole “cold blooded” aspect of reptiles.Feathers for scales,cursed to crawl on the belly…Birds are the only other bipedal(upright) animal…

Here is an article you may find interesting which includes some thoughts about the dinosaurs. Presents the theory that perhaps the plant eating dinosaurs were what God originally created and the Watchers did some cross breeding to produce the T Rex type ones.

Bon – Then I have an amazing what if for you. What if the Serpent that tempted Eve FLEW. Flying snakes are found in folklore around the world and it would be an interesting contrast to go from flying to crawling on its belly.

I have a hard time believing the snake was not created by God though since He created all life.

Maureen – I believe all the animals were plant eaters before the fall. Only after was meat consumed.

Isaiah 14 (and 30)
“29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.”

Isaiah 30
“6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.”

http://www.harvestwarriors. com/resources=statement_of_faith.htm (her website with husband Daniel Yoder) note: since we can’t do 2 links without triggering moderation, I’ve disabled the 2nd by inserting a space before “com.”

Can we ever trust anyone who “has known the depths of satan?” (cp. Rev. 2:18-29) The passage in Revelation points to Christ giving those caught up in the jezebel spirit “space to repent.” (It’s likely some do and some don’t) As best I can tell, the jezebel spirit is that of false teaching, especially with sorcery, witchery, and the occult involved. Clearly, herbal remedies need not include any of this. But the more pointed concern is using knowledge that has come from the enemy. Which is like asking, how much truth is in a false witness? Which makes me think of picking dead flies out of ointment.

Russ Dizdar talks about working with “Carl” again and again. Likely dealing with a shattered personality that has some areas still under the sway of darkness.

Which reminds me of mistletoe…. We need discernment. And the tests: Does it agree with the Bible? What is the fruit? etc.

Take for instance the Book of Enoch? I though Paradox Brown had done some work on this separating 1st Enoch from the rest? Richard Grund comments about it re: Gen. 6. As for the Book of Jasher? No comment from me yet.

I’m always cautious when we go beyond the Bible. The King James Apocrypha was very interesting, but there’s much there to dismiss. I found the Maccabees useful historically.

Hmmm… bottles of medicines (especially gummy vitamins and flintstones) shouldn’t be given to kids.

harvestwarriors. com/resources=statement_of_faith.htm (her website with husband Daniel Yoder) note: since we can’t do 2 links without triggering moderation, I’ve disabled the 2nd by inserting a space before “com.”

Can we ever trust anyone who “has known the depths of satan?” (cp. Rev. 2:18-29) The passage in Revelation points to Christ giving those caught up in the jezebel spirit “space to repent.” (It’s likely some do and some don’t) As best I can tell, the jezebel spirit is that of false teaching, especially with sorcery, witchery, and the occult involved. Clearly, herbal remedies need not include any of this. But the more pointed concern is using knowledge that has come from the enemy. Which is like asking, how much truth is in a false witness? Which makes me think of picking dead flies out of ointment.

Russ Dizdar talks about working with “Carl” again and again. Likely dealing with a shattered personality that has some areas still under the sway of darkness.

Which reminds me of mistletoe…. We need discernment. And the tests: Does it agree with the Bible? What is the fruit? etc.

Take for instance the Book of Enoch? I though Paradox Brown had done some work on this separating 1st Enoch from the rest? Richard Grund comments about it re: Gen. 6. As for the Book of Jasher? No comment from me yet.

I’m always cautious when we go beyond the Bible. The King James Apocrypha was very interesting, but there’s much there to dismiss. I found the Maccabees useful historically.

Hmmm… bottles of medicines (especially gummy vitamins and flintstones) shouldn’t be given to kids.

It is said of giants and trolls in nordic myths that they were especially fond of stealing human babies and eating them. I think that was because they needed stem-cells to stay healthy and keep their huge bodies adapting to ever growing.

Leprechauns and Faries and elves did the same thing. Ever hear of a changeling?

Sociology says when one culture shares the same story it’s based in fact. Most cultures on earth share similar creation, global flood, dragons, holow earth, giants, gods, and little people stories. That is the biggest factor in why I give this mythic stuff any credibility. When I use this to prove the Flood I have to use the same criteria when it shows up later in these other accounts.

I imagine, if I were looking for someone to do my bidding involving dark deeds, that I see what lines they’d cross. And the 10 Commandments are the lines that show those willing to pursue darkness and walk away from the Almighty. Those that cross the lines the most would get more of my time and attention. And that relates to ritual sacrifice especially.

So if there were just a legal issue, that would be bad enough, showing what people are willing to do. But the 10 Commandments relate to the God’s Spiritual Armor, and likely the 7 Spirits of God.

Compare Isaiah 61…
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach(#2) good tidings(#1) unto the meek [not proud]; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted (#3), to proclaim liberty(#4) to the captives, and the opening of the prison(#5) to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year(#6) of the LORD, and the day of vengeance(#7) of our God…”

Isaiah 11:2
“And the spirit of the LORD(#1) shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom(#4) and understanding(#2), the spirit of counsel(#3) and might(#5), the spirit of knowledge and of the fear(#7) of the LORD”

And of course we have the verses in Revelation that show the 7 Spirits of God, as the 7 Horns and 7 Eyes of the Lamb, which are sent into the earth.

Those who break with Christ’s Spirit(s) reject Him to turn to the opposite spirit.

Christ means anointed. The fullness of the Holy Spirit comes through him. He’s the vine, and his followers (obedient) are the branches. Those who share his ministries are extensions (offspring) of His spirit(s).

So no surprise that demons look for those that break the commandments — especially of course loving God and loving others (the way we lover our selves). They can manipulate them, whereas if they were focused on God and shared His Spirit they could not.

And spiritually those that break the commandments, “give birth” to “rotten fruit,” reproducing the same dark spirits they’re infested with.

Proverbs 6:16-19
“These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud(1) look, a lying(2) tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood(3), An heart that devises wicked imaginations(6), feet that be swift in running to mischief(4), A false witness(7) that speaks lies, and he that sows discord(5) among brethren.”

Basically, reject God … end up joined to other gods and cast out in the Lake of Fire — as infectious hazardous waste.

That’s what attracts the demons and fallen, food and nesting material they can breed and reproduce in – devoid of the Spirit of God.

Isaiah 11:2
“And the spirit of the LORD(#6) shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom(#4) and understanding(#2), the spirit of counsel(#3) and might(#5), the spirit of knowledge(#1) and of the fear(#7) of the LORD”

Hopeful Watcher – I have heard about Bonhoeffer but he was the voice in the wilderness. I believe there were only 7 clergy in all of Germany who were against Hitler. The rest blindly followed. Have you ever seen the photos online of Nazi church? It’s VERY creepy and non believers use it as “proof” that Christianity leads to Nazis. It’s clear to me, however, that the Nazi’s hijacked the Church.

I highly question if we have man Pastor Bonhoeffers today if they are ever needed again.

Captain, I believe we are going to need as many Pastor Bonhoeiffer’s as we can muster today.

The Nazi’s did hijack the church, but Dietrich headed and fueled the resistance to that hijacking. It is amazing how he takes a trip to Rome and falls in love with the moderate unification that the Catholics are able to accomplish and admonishes how the German Christian movement wanted to compartmentalize faith and belief based on race and nationalities (no surprise there). Bonhoeffer fell hook line and sinker into the lure of Ecumenical doctrine, but came full circle in the end. In other words, he saw a unity between ALL Christians, but not one that is tied together by Church doctrine (as the Catholic Church pushes) but that the binding agent be the Word of God. Hallelujah and praise the Lord when I read that!!

When the Church becomes its own living organism, then it seeks to create doctrines and dogmas to maintain their existence and power. Hence, salvation by works creeps in, because they seek to be the arbiters of who is saved and who is not, rather than the obedience to the Will of God.

I agree, he was a great man who came full circle and we need more church leaders like him today. Instead we get Rick Warrens.

I asked this before but maybe you missed it. Have you ever noticed that people in the past seemed to be more easily greater than those of today? Look at Babe Ruth. He was 300+ lbs. He smoked, drank A LOT, partied all night, and whored around. Yet this man was a great baseball player. He set records no one man has ever come close to breaking and those who have broken one or two here and there were usually on drugs. How ws a man who lived the way he did and was built like a modern day sports fan achieve such greatness? And he’s not alone. I just use this example because it’s in something as trivial as Baseball but you used to find people who were just as great in all walks of life. Today they’re all flat. Ever notice that?

Late NighT Lisa – Yep. You have found the group meeting near me! It’s on out local news stations for community festivals. It doesn’t sound like a festival to me. It soulds like a cult. I’ve seen A LOT of Pagan flyers showing up around the area too. I find it VERY disturbing.

Yeah. Are you serious? I grew up with a boy who had 6 fingers on each hand and a tail. He died a horrible death inserting alcohol up his rear end a few years ago. When I read the story in the paper I was stunned he was dead and how he died.

I hate it as well. I hate how the democrats do stuff and blame it on the Republicans and if you point it out people tell you both parties are the same. There are factions in the Republican party that are liberal but the entire democrat party is liberal. There’s no such thing as a conservative democrat. I still believe if we can get the right person in next year that much of the Obama damage can be undone. It’s a long shot but it’s possible. Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and Carter all did damage that was reversed but Obama has done so much it’s going to take a lot to fix what he did. We need a Reagan but greater than Reagan and I don’t see anyone like that emerging yet. Reagan was a lot like Winston Churchill and that’s just what we need. Someone of that scope, calibur, and character to triumph over this nonsense that has been going on in Big Government for some time.

The Arab-Israeli conflict is the battle in the heavenlies between the angels of God and the fallen demons. Actually it’s GOD’s battle to show that “Allah” is an idol that God will bring down in defeat, so that He, Almighty God, is the only TRUE God. The Psalm 83 war, Ezekiel 38-39 war demonstrate just Who Almighty God truly is! The decided winner is Jesus Christ,King of kings and Lord of lords! So, NO, I do NOT believe that Islam will rule, no matter how many billions of Muslims rise up againt God Almighty and Israel. I’ve read the Book, and the outcome is already decided. Just as Elijah on Mt. Carmel, showed the POWER of Almighty God over the “prophets” of Baal, so God is NEVER done bringing down the idols of men!! I believe the Bible, the prophecies therein (ALL of them), and have chosen for 37 years to put my trust in Jesus Christ and His Word ONLY, no matter what my eyes see, because we are called to “walk by faith, and not by sight”, because “Faith is the only way to please God”! Every human being must choose this day whom they will serve, because the outcome of their choice decides their future.”As for me and my house, we will(continue) to serve the LORD”!”

By the way, while you’re not looking the Patriot Act has been STRENGTHENED and is being signed into law tonight WITHOUT Obama. In a historic first the President’s autograph pen is signing a bill into law. Just think of the dangerous precedent this sets.

Also remember that Obama and the democrats ran AGAINST the Patriot Act. The Democrats came to power in 2006 and Obama came in 2008 and in all that time they’ve STRENGTHENED the Patriot Act and FURTHERED the steps W. Bush began but have taken them even farther than Bush did.

My question is why isn’t ANYONE calling them on this? Where are all the liberal kooks who voted these guys in because of this stuff? Why do they remain silent now? Could it be because they just had a problem with the other side being in power but when it’s their guys they could care less what they do? It sure makes me wonder sometimes.

And riddle me this. Remember when Katrina happened Bush took a few days before he responded and was called a racist and uncaring? Well, the Midwest storms happened WEEKS ago and once again Obama dithers and going on a European Vacation. Imagine is Bush had done that! As I‘ve said before, I was never in the bag for W. Bush but I have a HUGE problem with the tremendous double standard in how the media treated Bush and how they treat Obama. Obama gets a pass on stuff Bush would have been hammered on for he was attacked for doing far lesser things than Obama has done. Obama even flaunts this in our faces every chance he gets. He’s like Bill Clinton in that regard but without the charm.

I wondered about this too, Captain. Why with all this tragedy from the storms, is he off with his wife searching for his Irish Roots??? Irish Roots???
And the big article I saw this morning was about all of Michele’s dazzling fashionable wardrobe, picture after picture of her gowns and dresses, as they have tea and toasts with the queen.

And his Irish “roots” are nothing new. When he began his run that St. Patrivk’s Day Nightline did a story on how he’s really an “O’Bama” but it’s on his mom’s side. This was when there was a hubub about his name not being “American enough”. So they have rehashed old news and he didn’t even give a shout out to storm victims until long after Bibi did. I’d rather have Bibi for President than Obama. He seems like he gets life. Mr. BO does not.

let us not forget brothers and sisters that the most hated Race on earth is “The Chosen Race, the Royal priesthood, the Holy Nation” 1Pet2:9.
We, the righteous bearers of the light of Christ in this present Darkness.

The ultimate Hatred of satan will be directed with the greatest fury towards the body of Christ. Be careful that all of this saber rattling in the middle east does not cause a delusion to what the Devil is really planning! Then again, you who believe in a deliverance by the rapture to be imminent prior to tribulation will be the ones most likely to be deluded at the satanic fury to be released upon you.
I am pointing this out as a ((warning cry)) in the Love of God and neighbour.

I’m not invested in any rapture timing theory. In one way or another, we all need refinement, so, good: God will refine us. But it occurred to me recently— when the beast is ‘out’ so to speak, when it’s impossible to miss him anymore, couldn’t he be rebuked? Wouldn’t at least a few believers give it a try? It’s hard to believe nobody would, or that His blood would be powerless.

Rev. 13:7–He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.
Daniel 7:21, 25– As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them. . . the saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time [3 1/2 years].

In one of the clearest signs yet that the “Arab Spring” in post-Mubarak Egypt heralds a resurgent Islamic supremacism rather than a flowering of Western-style pluralism and democracy, Egyptian officials announced Wednesday that they were reopening the Rafah crossing this Saturday.

The Rafah crossing is the only official point of entry into Gaza other than from inside Israel. Egypt closed it for good in 2007 after Hamas took power in Gaza, as part of its uneasy observance of the Camp David Accords maintaining peace with Israel. The Rafah crossing had been an easy route into Israel for jihadis and their weapons suppliers who, for obvious reasons, wanted to avoid Israeli scrutiny.

God is calling a remnant among the Jews.
Jesus Christ is at work among the Jews more than ever.
There are Iranian Jews. Iraqi Jews. Russian Jews. American Jews.

“The face of the Jews here in Israel isn’t what you’d expect,” said Martin, a Baptist Christian worker among the Jews, it’s a very diverse group.

The return of Jews after 1948 to what is Israel today brought the Diaspora — Jews scattered worldwide — back from different countries and cultures. But despite differences, the work among them is expanding all the time. Now there are an estimated 150 Jewish congregations around Israel meeting in different languages. The number of believers is estimated to be around 20,000, growing exponentially from 1948 when 12 Jews who believed in Jesus could be counted, to 1987 when there were 3,000 and 1997 where there were 5,000.

“This is clearly the work of Jesus, because it’s very hard for a Jew to become a believer,” Martin said.

Thank you for todays post regarding the rise of Islam and the unaltered plan of Satan to work through this very real yet false religion to destroy Israel and even the memory of Judaism from human history.

I thank Yahweh God that He has revealed Truth to us through His Word, His Holy Spirit, prayer and through His Son Jesus Christ. This Truth I hold dear to my heart that even though Satan has schemed for millinea to delude the people of this world and it’s people, created by our Holy God, his plans are meeting stiff opposition as the Lord of Hosts continues to reveal Himself to life long Muslims and bring them to faith in our King, Jesus Christ.

I am fully convinced that Yahweh God is pouring out His Spirit on all mankind as just in this month alone, I have been privileged to be a part of bringing hard core Satanist OUT of the Satanic covens in which they each had been members of for a minimum of six years.

Through the powerful testimony of a woman who was raised in a family three generations deep in Satanism, and the story of how our God delivered her, men and women are seeing LOVE for the first time and that LOVE from Jesus Christ being delivered to them via her own testimony along with songs of praise and worship, hearing God’s Word and the incredible power of THOUSANDS of prayer warriors standing in the gap for them, has been proof enough for me that we are entering the End Times.

God is working in unprecedented ways as two nights in a row last week, what are now FORMER Satanic coven members are now living boldly for Jesus Christ. God is going to use these new believers in mighty ways. He already is actually as just one day after one of them accepted Christ, his co-workers were asking what had happened to him as the Spirit of God had changed them that much.

I believe this is just a portent of things to come as Sharia Law begins to take hold and the Lord continues to break the hardest of hearts for His plans and purpose. There soon will begin the greatest clash of armies this world has ever noticed as the Kingdom of Darkness struggles against the Host of Heaven as His Spirit emboldens untold numbers of new members to the Body of Christ.

The Lord is giving us a preview of the trailer to the BIG picture right now and we are either going to be sitting on the sidelines getting caught asleep or we are going to be on the front lines in this HOT WAR with the spirit realm as Brother Lynn is 24/7.

The war is not just coming Brethren, it is already here for those who have eyes to see.

Thank you that phrase that is new to me, i.e., “I got my Pentecost issued Glasses on”. Brother, you are so right the vision is clear.

I woke up at 6 am after only having a few hours of sleep from the strangest dream I have had in a while and had to get on line to see if anyone from the covens and some that we are working with now had sent me a message or email. They had not I found out. Nevertheless, I am moved deeply in my spirit as I was very disturbed from the dream sequence.

I have NEVER shared a dream here because the ones I have that stick out so much like this one, usually involve someone who is demon possessed but this dream was about confronting and then helping others escape a group of from a Satanic Coven. Basically a mixture of Rosemary’s Baby (which I would recommend that NO ONE ever watch if they have not yet done so)meets “Race With The Devil” meets Indians Jones. Stupid sounding I know. I had to be the hero in the dream and no, sorry but I am not going into details except to to tell of the beginning which was the most bizarre.

It began in the place as almost ALL of my memorable dreams do (whatever they may be) in the small East TX town where I grow up. I don’t know why that is, but I RARELY dream of my family and when I do, we are in my small hometown. This started with my wife and I in bed…outside by a the highway but off the road far enough against the edge of the woods. There used to be a small area that was used for holding dirt for construction crews as they re-did the roads one year and it once it was cleaned up and abandoned, it made a permanent flat top area, big enough for people to park their cars so they could then car pool to Dallas.

Anyway, my wife and I are in our King Side bed out under the full moon sleeping when I keep hearing this screaming off in the distance. I finally get up to see what is going on and from what has always been a small connivence store at the intersection about 100 yards away, I am watching as men in hooded robes are taking people kicking and screaming who have been bound up under the lights by the gas pumps. It is the middle of the night so there is no traffic and no one is supposed to be able to know this is happening. But gee, thanks to my wife and I having our bed outside by the woods hidden by two big piles of sand and gravel along with a huge Oak tree, we are totally unnoticed by anyone.

I finally figured out what was going on and cupped my hands to my mouth and shouted, “HEY YOU SATANISTS, LET THOSE PEOPLE GO FREE” at which time they panicked being ticked off they were discovered. I then simply just turned around and nervously got back in bed but my yelling woke up my wife. I kept whispering for her to be quiet. While doing so, I noticed that I had thrown the covers back to far that the white sheet has got tangled up with the comforter and the white sheet was basically reflecting the full moon’s light like a mirror. I frantically tried to get this from being noticed when out of nowhere there is suddenly this man dressed in old seventies clothes but what struck the most the most about his pants (laugh with me if you remember these) was that he was wearing those pants that had those horrible multi-colored HORIZONTAL stripes. Also bizarre was he was as tall as the Oak tree which was a good 30 feet. He was very quiet but determined to walk around that tree several times. My wife asked me what he was doing and before I could shush her, he had walked around the tree so much that it basically had disappeared and raining down on us was tons of what I can only describe as confetti type pieces of paper. I they yelled at my wife he was a Satanist and we both tried to escape but it was too late as the next thing I know we are in a very nice house (think Rosemary’s Baby) and found out there were a couple dozen people there…all white folk…and of all ages.

The rest was about me confronting them and taking them out one by one and helping everyone escape. Again, the reason I won’t get into any more was because it was just two hollywood sounding. But what I have learned is that growing up in my small town, we had always heard there were Satanic covens all over the county we grew up in way out in the country. I grew up camping out in the deep woods many times. I helped some friends build a literal log cabin (very crude but efficient) mind you and there was never a time when we camped out that we were not loaded up with shotguns and maybe a 45 magnum for effect. You see, this area of deep woods where we camped had roads that led out to it that was meant to be a new housing addition in the late ’60’s but got abbandoned for whatever reason. We didn’t know and didn’t care as it provided about a thousand acres of woods to romp in. But along side the western most edge of the woods used to be pasture land where we had always been told of cattle mutilations being found. Keep in mind, this was in the mid ’70’s and cattle mutilations was top of the fringe/UFO circles.

Anyway, after having been working with these one woman and 3 men who were DEEP into Satanic Covens and now working with others, THEY have learned that THEY were being controlled in their coven and that those over them had no “special powers” as they thought. Yes, there is great demonic strongholds in these covens and as a result of helping free these beautiful souls, I along with Kelly, the lady whose story and whose powerful desire to see them free in the Love of Jesus Christ, have been under tremendous spiritual warfare as the enemy attacks us in completely different ways.

But they key with these men and one woman who first emailed me with very tough sounding talk and sometimes cussing me out about my faith, began to have their hardened hearts softened as they daily kept experiencing the Love of Jesus through their initial contact with me, but so much more powerfully as they heard many times a day from Kelly, the one who escaped her generational family of Satanic Ritual Abuse as she would tell them exactly what they needed to hear…not what they wanted to hear. All the while they kept listening to praise and worship to our King and could not understand why neither of us would give up on them or cuss them back because of how they were treating us, especially Kelly.

It is a FASCINATING study in the human psyche and soul as in literally just a few short days, what had been at first people sent to harass me for what I do and Kelly for who she is and what she does by sharing her testimony, turns them into God “haters” into God “LOVERS”. To see the sudden and sheer JOY emanating from their souls each time this happens and all of this has happened in this month for reasons only God knows.

But what I do believe as I stated in my original post above is that God is going to be bringing in untold new members into the Body of Christ as I personally believe His Spirit is moving and putting a sense of urgency in peoples lives that their time to make a decision for Jesus Christ is CLOSING FAST. There are very real Satanists who have either committed very real crimes that would have them locked away for life or here in the Great State of Texas, have them executed for what they have done and if they haven’t done it, they have witnessed it. This is why they knew deep down they had to get out. They were being called to do the one thing they knew they could not and I don’t think I have to spell that out to you. They had already spent enough time as it were doing horrible acts against people they had seen and done enough and God was calling to their spirits and they began to respond.

They still have spies. I have ZERO doubt their spies are right here on this BLOG which is what has caused so much turmoil in the last few months and especially this week.

May I make a suggestion right now? The next time either a troll or someone comes here impersonating one of us makes an obvious comment to inflame our sensibilities, PLEASE do not even make the comment, “Let’s just ignore this person” or anything to that affect because each time someone says that…what happens? A long new thread of people NOT ignoring the person begins. So the NEXT time this happens which I predict this weekend….may we just LITERALLY IGNORE and not SPEAK A WORD about it? Just literally IGNORE it.

As mentioned above, we are in a very real HOT WAR with the forces of darkness and I promise you with everything in me that Satan and his minions are BEYOND ANGRY…they are in full RAGE and HATE over the loss of several of what was there own. We keep updates on this over on the Forum and I ask that you please keep this situation in prayer and both Kelly and I are even now working with people who have deep problems of pride but are SO close to seeing Jesus as He really is. We are both working with a young lady by the name of Jess who has a boyfriend who, according to her, has done some “Very bad” things in the coven he is in. She is allowed to go to meetings sometimes so she has seen a lot. However, as most she started out cussing out me and Kelly repeatedly but beginning in the wee hours of Friday morning, the Lord began to soften her heart as she is looking for the TRUE LOVE that only Jesus can give her…not the superficial love that sex from her “Boyfriend” does. She needs prayer covering in a big way right now as I am concerned about her safety and I mean this in a life and death concern.

This is what we are dealing with. I am not in ANY way trying to imply we are the new Russ Dizdar of this day. Far from it. What I am saying is that God is doing something SO NEW and foreign to what I have experienced. Literally all 4 of these formally heavily dedicated Satanist gave their lives to Christ this month. Two of them one night and the next guy the night after…two nights in a row. What we are witnessing God doing is just blowing my mind. I am so humbled yet thrilled to be in this HOT WAR right now. God is moving Brethren and I pray He shows Himself to us all in ways we have always expected and even more.

So sorry for the book John B but I couldn’t help it once I got started.

Blessings to you all and for those spies reading this…you are LOVED by Jesus Christ and all the true Christians here on this BLOG…especially Brother Lynn. He knows of your fear of LOVE. Just keep hanging around because we do care about you and love you in Jesus.

God be with you and bless you Bozz. You were typing your post as I was typing my overly verbose reply above. Thank you ever so much for that encouragement. That is what we all need in these End Times right now.

you are so right, Jeff. I missed whatever got ’em going here and kinda sat back and just read what you guys were talking about but your idea :

“May I make a suggestion right now? The next time either a troll or someone comes here impersonating one of us makes an obvious comment to inflame our sensibilities, PLEASE do not even make the comment, “Let’s just ignore this person” or anything to that affect because each time someone says that…what happens? A long new thread of people NOT ignoring the person begins. So the NEXT time this happens which I predict this weekend….may we just LITERALLY IGNORE and not SPEAK A WORD about it? Just literally IGNORE it.”

It’s just the right thing to do. It seems whatever the troll posts were, they distracted everyone from the topic of the day which reinforces L.A.s request to stay on topic…..to me the proof that they are from the enemy is that they came here with it and did not go to the forum!

Last night before I was going to bed I was flipping through the channels and caught some late night talk show hosted by 2 catholic monks and they had this woman on who was a singer and she was talking about some of the things I’ve mentioned I’ve had trouble with on this blog. And how she worded it I GOT IT. She specializes in traveling around the world and ministering to young people. She writes songs too and they were pretty good. Interestingly she’s catholic though but the songs I heard didn‘t portray that. Anyway, here’s her website if anyone wants to check her out:

I don’t think all the ceremony stuff they come up with is Biblical at all. I don’t think that the way they treat Saints and Mary has any Biblical roots either. I have Catholic friends and they will not give up their belief that Mary was without sin so she was pure enough to carry Jesus. They fail to see that this is the whole point of why He was sent as a human, because we AREN’T worthy. Besides, if Mary was without sin then she’d have been the Messiah, wouldn’t she?

This woman didn’t mention any of that stuff. She was talking about prayer and a relationship with Christ. I was surprised to see she was catholic because I rarely hear catholics speak about a 1 on 1 relationship with Christ. She’s a very gifted speaker though.

She was talking about levels of a Christ relationship. She said most have a texting relationship with Him and don’t know how to break through to a phone relationship or an in person relationship and I got that example. She talked about how she ada text relationship with Him but eventually fell in love with Him as the Man in her life and she wanted to spend every day with Him as her best friend and most people can’t wait to get out of church. I can understand what she was saying with all of that. What a great way to describe it. But anyway…

By the way, I have a funny catholic story. I have a catholic friend who lives in the inner city and he invited me to his Bible study. Across the street from his church is a Catholic/Christian book store. It’s the biggest in our area in fact but it’s mostly catholic stuff. So I was in there checking it out and all those little Saint Statues they pray to are on a shelf and I see that several of them have been stolen. I worked in retail at the time and knew the signs of stolen merchandise. So I let them know and I was like “Why would anyone steal that stuff? Do they really expect their prayers to get answered by praying to a STOLEN idol?” and the woman looked daggers at me. But, really, I had a point. If you believe these Saints will answer your prayer and need these statues to focus on them why would you ever think they’d answer your prayer to a STOLEN statue? I can see it now, it’s the first thing they repent “Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I stole this statue I’m praying too…” I just find that funny in its own strange way.

“TONIGHT, TWO of our favorite guests over the years: first, Patrick Heron, author of The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse, joins us to discuss the paperback release of his latest, The Return of the Antichrist and the New World Order.

Then Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry, discusses his new book, Where’s the Birth Certificate?: The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President.”

Regarding that Sharia is coming… I too believe that Islam and Sharia are coming but they are not the final solution. They are the catalysts, but it will be the ecumenical moderates who make the one world religion and thus complete the beast system.

Here are some parallels to make your head spin:
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1) The Mystery Religion of Babylon are two parts, the Sun God and the Moon Goddess.
2) Daniel’s vision and John’s Revelation speak of the return to this mystery religion.
3) Catholic dogma has now created a co-redeemer. Mary has coredeeming powers side by side with Jesus in Catholic Dogma. The Son(Sun) is Jesus and the Moon(Queen of Bablyon) is Mary.
4) The Eucharist is a cannibalistic sacrifice to an idolatry worship of Satan. The Priest is said to actually create Christ’s human flesh within the Host and place it in the Monstrance for “Eucharistic Adoration”. This Monstrance has symbols of the Sun and Moon on it. Adoring this peace of the Lord’s flesh, surrounded by Sun and Moon worship symbolism, ready to be consumed during mass is worshiping false idols on the worst kind.
5) The Vatican is chock full of Sun worship idols and symbols
6) Islam is chock full of Moon worship idols and symbols.
The Beast System will join Roman Catholic and Islamic dogma in an Ecumenical Satan Soup or demon worship.
7) The two witness of Revelation are said to be two olive trees and two lampstands. The two olive trees are the separating of the line of Abraham where Isaac leads to Jesus and Ishmael leads to Muhammad. Lampstands are said to be churches, so the two would be Christianity (namely Roman Catholic) and Islam.
8) Both Islam and Christians wait for an Antichrist (in Islam he is called Dajjal). It is interesting to note that the Dajjal is said to ride a mule with a mile worth of distance between its ears and can travel miles in seconds. Does this sound like a highly technical craft to anyone? It does to me.
9) Both Islam and Christians wait for Christ’s return to overcome the Antichrist.

It is my contention that the Two Witnesses of the bible will look like, be slandered to appear and act like the False Prophet and the Antichrist, Muslims will call one of them Dajjal. This will be the great delusion. Both Christians and Muslims await this and both will believe it is fulfilling their own prophecies. Then the REAL antichrist/false prophet comes on the stage to defeat the one who is believed to be the antichrist and brings with them peace and security to all people on Earth. Both Muslims and Christian (sick and tired of extremism and desiring peace and security) will band together in common belief and hold this fake Christ up as their savior.

I think along these lines as well. The unification of moderates, that is why the radical islamist needs to be irradicated in order to constitute the socialist democracy of the beast government. Biblically the beast system and mode of government is Democracy along the lines of Rome.

Please share. I would love to hear it. The majority above was intellectual musings and speculation. In other words, not confirmed through the Lord. I am the most unclear on my stance and belief about the two witnesses, so I would love to hear your take on it.

Are the Two witnesses represented in Rev Ch11, two literal persons or are they symbolical figures revealing something contrary to the widely held belief of modern dispensation Theology? let us look at the scripture.

The two witnesses appear in context with the Temple of God and of those who Worship in It Vs2,3.
The Greek word here for Temple Is NAOS =”Sanctuary within”. The Word Does not referrer to a literal Temple But a Spiritual one as also shown in Rev 3:12 and 2Thes2:4.

The Greek word for A literal Temple As was Herod’s is HIERON Mk11:11. Mat24, Lk21.

It is The saints, Those having received adoption By the Spirit of God who worship in Spirit And in Truth within the true sanctuary. They are “Gods Household, the Royal priesthood, His holy Nation and chosen Race” 1Pet2:5-9
Outside are the nations Trampling the Outer court Rev11:2.
The witnessing ministry is within that context. [power received from the presence of God in the sanctuary for Witness to those Outside of it]

The Witnesses prophesy in “Sackcloth” by divine Power Gotten from The Sanctuary. For they are also the Two Olive trees & the Two Lamp stands before the Lord of the Earth. Vs4.
This is in contrast to Religious Authority or power dressed in clerical Regalia. These witnesses are without rank & Title Among Men. They are divinely Ordained for ministry by God and not by Man.

Their Testimony will not be of progress and world betterment, not of Peace & safety, not of Social justice and Equal rights as is The current trend in Christendom [the social Gospel]
These witnesses must testify Of death & judgment, of the day of Wrath & perdition of the Ungodly, of the coming of the rejected Lord coming in Flaming Fire, taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who Obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 2Thess1:7-9.

We are not to look for Two Divinely endowed persons, as Moses and Elijah to appear on the end-Time Scene as is presently taught within many denominational networks.

The number “2” like other numbers in this book, has a symbolical meaning.
Two is the number of divine sufficiency in Testimony. Deut17:6, Mat18:16. The Lord always sent forth his disciples by Two together; and in earlier times there were Moses & Aaron, Joshua & Caleb, Zerubbabel & Joshua, Haggai & Zechariah.

The Two witnesses have the “characteristics of Moses & Elijah” For according to Vs6 They have like the latter the power “to shut heaven that it rain not in the days of their prophecy”, and power, like the Former, “over waters to turn them to Blood and smite with plagues”. Likewise we are not to consider Literal Fire proceeding out of their mouths to devour vs5.

Vs7 states that the Beast from out of the Abyss [Apollyon] makes War with Them, This also Reveals that the witnesses are not two literal persons (One Does not Make war Upon Two individuals, rather War is made upon A company of People.
This is a suppression Of the Testimony and Witness of Jesus Christ By the beastly governments of the World under the leadership of Antichrist. There is a great rejoicing by the populous of world at their Death [Martyrdom is implied] Vs9,10

The rejoicing of the Enemies of the Truth was very brief. For a mighty outpouring of the Spirit is indicated by the words of Vs11, bringing a “revival to the testimony”, in a final Harvest or a “gathering in” before “The Rapture of the saints & judgment of the Wicked”.

Vs12 A voice from Heaven saying To Them “Come Up Here”, and they “went up into heaven” in a cloud, beheld by their Enemies. (the rapture)
[see 1Thess 4:16-18]
Vs13 and in that Hour judgment begins. This takes place immediately before the sounding of the Seventh Trumpet announcing the coming Wrath.Vs18

Vs8 The City of their slaying is “mystically” called Sodom & Egypt where Our Lord was Crucified. The words “Where our lord Was crucified” signify that The Guilt of His Crucifixion is to Be Laid upon all those in the Whole world who have rejected the Mercy that flows from The Cross.

In concluding: I hold The view that the Two witnesses is symbolical of the “Testimony of Jesus” upon the Earth by the Mouth of His Saints of all Generations, with The Emphasis of an end-Time suppression of the Gospel [as is presently happening] and the calling of a godly Remnant to be gathered in unity of Spirit during The Great Apostasy prophesied By Apostle Paul In 2Thess.

John, excellent. Thank you very much for detailing that. I have heard before that some hold to a spiritual meaning to the two witnesses, but I have never understood how the interpretation was derived. Your explanation makes that clear.

Using you interpretation that these are wholly spiritual witnesses how do you interpret the slaying, lieing dead without burial for three days in the streets and subsequent coming to life and being called up to heaven?

Great point about “war” being against a company and not a couple, regarding the Two Witnesses!

I’ve always wanted to make the case that the Revelation isn’t about individuals. Many of the entities revealed are clearly collectives or companies, often noted explicitly. Which is not to say they don’t have heads or leaders.

Which should be obvious since the beasts of Revelation 13 are clearly nations if not empires. Like the great red dragon of Rev. 12, the beast from the sea (bfs) has 7 heads and 10 horns with crowns. But it also has the characteristics we see in Daniel re: lion, leopard, and bear, which were clearly nations.

H_w has proposed elsewhere that the beast from the sea and the beast from the earth are the antichrist and the false prophet. I’d agree, and believe that both “the antichrist” and “the false prophet” are likewise collectives, headed by leaders no doubt. They match to the “rough goat” and “ram.” Their power derives from the dragon, which is clearly headed by satan.

I suspect these are spiritual dominions more than political. The political is just the outward manifestation. And their true rulers are the fallen, the rebel angels. Likewise the beast from the earth and beast from the sea are the right and left foot of the image of man in Nebuchadnezzer’s dream. The mix of clay and iron may be the mix of human and demon. And their rulers are the king of the north and king of the south from Daniel, again demon princes in their offices. Probably the prince of grecia and prince of persia.

Nor do they segregate culture, political power, or religion. So the beast from the sea is the northern alliance or dominion. And the beast from the earth is the southern dominion. Timing answers the problem that the southern dominion is seen as have rams horns, typically considered Christian. Once antichrist rules, it may be that the southern dominion is seen as conquered by the crusaders (false christians) and no longer under the dominion of allah.

So the northern dominion is the area or the EU and Russia, with Romanism reconciled to Greek Orthodox catholicism. Whether they are now or not — all religions at that time will be corrupt as will the nations — except for the remnant. If there were no remnant there would be no reason to call them out of Babylon in Rev. 18:4.

Are there any entities in the Revelation that aren’t collectives? Yes, St. John and Christ. Possibly individual angels. Mostly we see companies or collectives — since they share a common spirit. And the Revelation exposes the spiritual dimension.

Enemy collectives:
1. the beast headed by antichrist
2. the false prophet
3. death & hell
4. mystery babylon
5. the destroyer (with the locusts)
6. the chiefs and kings and great of the earth (including merchants)
7. the dragon headed by satan

Loyal collectives:
1. Heavenly Jerusalem (ch. 12 and 22), with manchild (millennial kingdom)
2. Two Witnesses
3. First Fruits
4. Mighty Angel clothed with a cloud that stands on land and sea
5. The Thief in the Night
6. The Great Multitude
7. The Elders about the throne

And of course the loyal angels, animals, and elements. For even the rocks would cry out if we held our voices, and the hills would dance, and stars sing praise to the Creator.

As for the Lamb Slain — whether I say that He and the Father are One — or that His Horns and Eyes are also the 7 Spirits of God… spiritually seen we see His connections. Clearly, He is head of the body of Christ and husband of His wife, New Jerusalem. Whether He walks in the midst of the churches or sits in the midst of the throne of His city — it’s still Yahshua / Jesus — our only link to Father God before and beyond this creation.

Hopeful; lying dead without burial for three days in the streets and subsequent coming to life and being called up to heaven?

The witnessing for Jesus by his saints(two witnesses) will never be buried it can only be suppressed. We are seeing this presently I believe.
The growing darkness with martyrdom is already evident in many countries, but it will never put out the light which is carried within the souls of the righteous.
A final harvest leading into the rapture (the witnessing revived before the end. We are not going out of Here defeated “Praise the Lord” even the dead in Christ shall rise an be caught up together to the Lord.

John B
Revelation 11:9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

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The way this is described, it makes it difficult to say these witnesses are a spiritual metaphor, but actual people. Just wanted some more thoughts on that part.

if one sees this to be a reconstructed Third Temple, then look for two literal Fire breathing witnesses!

As pointed out in the original post(please read it again) According to the Greek grammar The witnessing is in context with the Spiritual Temple wherein the Two witnesses are also the Two olive trees and the Two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.
You do not make war against two individuals, and they are not to literally devour their enemies with a literal Fire proceeding out of their Mouths.
The fire is the words of judgment spoken .see Jer5:14 “behold I will make my words in thy mouth Fire and it shall devour them”
Jesus also was not literally crucified in “Mystical Sodom and Egypt” The witnessing is not in local Jerusalem, it is world wide, and No, it is not via TV it is by the remnant separated out of the Whorish Babylon system symbolically represented by the attire of sackcloth in stark contrast to the lavish attire of the Whore…Also compare the wording in Vs12 to 1Thes4:13-17 there you will find the rapture of the saints.

Hopeful; i could go on But I ask that you take it before the Lord and seek Him on it

I hadn’t considered that there would be attempts to spin the end-time saints with their counterfeits. …or by their counterfeits.

1. antichrist masquerades as the Lamb (Messiah)
2. false prophet masquerades as Two Witnesses (likely Elijah & Enoch – come in UFOs?)
3. death (& hell) masquerades as the End Time Harvester (note scythe)
4. mystery babylon masquerades as the City of God
5. the destroyer masquerades as Priest Kings (note locusts)
6. “the great” masquerade as the Servants of God
7. the dragon masquerades as the God Almighty in judgment

Well, the best illusions are the ones performed right in front of your eyes and that confirm your expectations. I believe that when the Antichrist comes on the scene, it will be celebrated world wide and viewed as the second coming of Jesus. Everyone will fall in love with the Antichrist and those who reject him (i.e. you and I) will be cast as an extremist and treated as such.

Did you hear about the news report Friday that said Americans who fear Sharia Law and believe American Muslims want it in America are ignorant and bigots and racist? I know I have seen NUMEROUS stories of American judges accepting Sharia Law in the US so how is it ignorant and racist to believe what happens?

“The media, always eager to stir up sensationalist drama, are particularly keen on controversy during election seasons. If the events of the past year are any indication, Sharia law and its “threat” to Americans could become another fringe issue that receives undue media attention. (Remember the situation with Rev. Jeremiah Wright?) The presumed threat is that Sharia law, or Islamic jurisprudence, could somehow be implemented in the U.S., leading to a Taliban-like takeover of the American justice system. This ludicrous idea has members of the GOP increasingly concerned about “radical” Muslims and their supposed potential to violently shift U.S. politics. What’s lost in the debate is that the American Constitution already guards against the implementation of religious law in any form.

On May 10, Politico reported that “invoking Sharia and casting it as a growing danger at odds with American principles has become a rallying cry for conservatives.” Candidates like Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Michele Bachman, and Rick Santorum have already singled out “creeping” Sharia as a serious threat to the U.S. The media have been quick to join the conversation, making the “fear” seem more real and widespread than it actually is. Unfortunately, the supposed fear is being manipulated to pave the way for draconian laws that pose significant consequences for American Muslims’ civil liberties.”

Can everyone please pray for my friend Lisa’s mom? Her mom just found out she has a bone disease that is killing her bones off and there is no cure. Her mom will probably die if there is no miracle. Lisa has the same disease herself. Her father died last year and when her mom goes she’ll be all alone. She’s caring for her mom now even though she requires care too. I just feel so bad over the whole thing and wish there were something I could do to help. Praying is about it so please, everyone, pray, pray, pray!!! Thanks!

I will pray for healing tonight Captain, but someone needs to share with her Mom the love of Christ, if she doesn’t know Him already. My heart breaks at such difficulties. If there truly is no cure, then make sure she is walking with the Lord.

Oh, they’re all Christian. They’re actually Christian Jews. They don’t like the term Messianic Jews because it’s not the same thing. I might have this wrong but I think a Christian Jew is a Jew who accepts Christ, A Messianic Jew is a Christian who adopts Jewish customs. Lisa explained it to me years ago but I forget how it went now. I know her mom has other health problems too. Her father died of having his kidneys removed. He lived on the machines for years but he finally gave out. I think she has a brother but hes’ out and about some place. And, as I said before, Lisa has the same bone disease her mom has but no one knew it would develop into killing bones. It sure seems like every Christian I know suffers some illness or another while the non believers skate by…

David Livingston, the African medical missionary, was mauled by a lion and had nothing good to say about them. Cruel creatures to their prey.

They don’t understand His vengeance.

Psalm 58

1 Do you indeed speak righteousness, you silent ones?
Do you judge uprightly, you sons of men?
2 No, in heart you work wickedness;
You weigh out the violence of your hands in the earth.
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb;
They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent;
They are like the deaf cobra that stops its ear,
5 Which will not heed the voice of charmers,
Charming ever so skillfully.
6 Break their teeth in their mouth, O God!
Break out the fangs of the young lions, O LORD!
7 Let them flow away as waters which run continually;
When he bends his bow,
Let his arrows be as if cut in pieces.
8 Let them be like a snail which melts away as it goes,
Like a stillborn child of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
9 Before your pots can feel the burning thorns,
He shall take them away as with a whirlwind,
As in His living and burning wrath.
10 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengeance;
He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked,
11 So that men will say,
“Surely there is a reward for the righteous;
Surely He is God who judges in the earth.”

1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.
4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;
7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

1 My heart is inditing a good matter: I speak of the things which I have made touching the king: my tongue is the pen of a ready writer.
2 Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.
3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.
4 And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
5 Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.
6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
8 All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
9 Kings' daughters were among thy honorable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir.
10 Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house;
11 So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him.
12 And the daughter of Tyre shall be there with a gift; even the rich among the people shall intreat thy favour.
13 The king's daughter is all glorious within: her clothing is of wrought gold.
14 She shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee.
15 With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace.
16 Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children, whom thou mayest make princes in all the earth.
17 I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.

1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.
8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.
10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.
12 Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.
13 Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.
14 But Zion said, The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.
15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
17 Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee.
18 Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.
19 For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away.
20 The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell.
21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?
22 Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.
23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?
25 But thus saith the LORD, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.
26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

1 Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
2 It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows:
for so he giveth his beloved sleep.
3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed,
but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

The scholars are mere children, Yashua, Son of the Most High.

They can’t comprehend the excellence of Your justice.

For Your arrows, O God, are sharp in the heart of the enemy.

They don’t see the piercing that tears their hearts from inside.

The glory of your coming whereby your offspring are arrows, great King.

Your Spirit sent forth into all the earth and in all generations.

For spirit is born of spirit, as flesh is born of flesh.

And from Your quiver O most mighty Savior and Risen Lord,
come life and light that scatter the shadows and quicken the dead.

So knotch us on your string Most Holy, draw, release and let fly.

That your saints be sent, as rays of light, into the darkest nights.

No longer enemies at the gates, but armies of the beloved,
gathering with banners, comely as Jerusalem, and joy to your Heart.

Let the Day Star rise.

1st Peter
“19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”

Malachi 4
“1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.”