omeganuepsilon:Nidiot: omeganuepsilon: Nidiot: At some point we are going to have to consider neutering people. It has to be kinder to them to not be feeling so desperate to fark absolutely anything all the time.

The animal population would sure appreciate it.

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[johnozed.com image 555x416].....you may be missing out to the possibility that animals don't dislike it as much as you would like to think.

Fair enough. As long as you are willing to let the animal be the pitcher, I say go right ahead. No harm, no foul.

What does this have to do with me?

Anyhow, it is often the case where women take it from an animal. Why is that ok, but with men it's wrong?

/you sound sexist

Because forcing an object, including body parts, into an orifice that is not designed to take said object, may be damaging and painful, and personally I don't think animals should have to suffer pain just so some guy can relieve his sexual frustration. I'm not entirely sure that an animal that gets to put it's body part into some human orifice suffers pain as a result. Hence I am less disturbed if the guy were to take the animal's penis up his ass, as opposed to the man putting his penis in the animal's ass. It's purely a practical consideration. I am against causing unnecessary pain to an animal. If the human is so disturbed as to want to do sexual activities with an animal in the first place, well that is their problem, but my concern lies with the welfare of the animal first and foremost.

Also, the vaginal cavity on most livestock is rather large, even the anal one, so the pain you seem to think is always coupled with penile penetration is largely unfounded. Some, like cows and horses, may not even notice. Just fyi.

You'd know that just from watching documentaries, seeing someone like Mike Rowe shoulder deep in some creatures vag/anus can be informative, if a bit gross.

omeganuepsilon:I think you have an unhealthy obsession with penises in asses.

Also, the vaginal cavity on most livestock is rather large, even the anal one, so the pain you seem to think is always coupled with penile penetration is largely unfounded. Some, like cows and horses, may not even notice. Just fyi.

You'd know that just from watching documentaries, seeing someone like Mike Rowe shoulder deep in some creatures vag/anus can be informative, if a bit gross.

This is also true, which is why it disturbs me less than when it is a story about some guy and a cow, as opposed to a story about some guy and a dog. Especially when the dog had to be taken to the vet in order to tend to the resultant injuries. Stories involving dogs also tend to include how the dog became cowering and fearful after the event, which doesn't indicate it was having a happy fun time.

Vaginas use doesn't get a pass since unwanted penis in a vagina that is either small or appropriate in size is also painful. Unwanted tends to mean there is no lubrication, which then means pain and anyone who hasn't got one cannot honestly say otherwise. It's true cows barely even blink when getting preg tested, which requires a whole arm. Bit whenever there is the chance that the animal is suffering just so someone can get their jollies, I'm still calling the perpetrator an utter bastard.

omeganuepsilon:Yeah, we get it, actual rape is bad, most anyone would even agree.

Oddly enough, any sexual penetration of an animal is rape, since it didn't give consent.

You asked why a woman taking it from an animal (and it wouldn't have to be a woman, a man might also be on the receiving end) isn't viewed as badly, it's not a sexist view, it's because in order to perform such an act there would have to be some sort of willingness on the part of the animal. When animal is acting as a receptacle for some dude's dick, however, it is never anything other than a victim of rape. Animals probably don't have a concept of humiliation and the like, but when you have the possibility of injuries and pain, I'm pretty sure the animals would much rather humans just kept it in their pants.

Either way, I'm certain animals would rather be left to get on with their own animal lives instead of having to deal with some oversexed human with a complete lack of boundaries. They really don't give a shiat how sexually frustrated any particular human is, and there is no reason why they should. If a human cannot sort out their sexual urges on their own, that is too bad, there is no requirement for any other sentient creature to help them out.