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I agree Goff is in a much better position re coach, team etc. and he is good. he's proven it with the right coach. I'd take his coach and team over Mahomes for sure. Andy has donned his well-worn bridesmaid dress yet again ...

LA went all in to get to the SB, we'll see if that is sustainable. Have they developed the talent organically to ride on after the end of their rentals expire? They have Goff and Gurley on cheap rookie deals for only a couple more years. I haven't studied their roster much to really know.

They have an estimated 50m of cap space this next year. I looked last week as I was thinking of Saffold moving the Chargers and thought maybe they were tied up cap wise. Nope - more than the Chargers have!

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They have an estimated 50m of cap space this next year. I looked last week as I was thinking of Saffold moving the Chargers and thought maybe they were tied up cap wise. Nope - more than the Chargers have!

Chargers aren't in great cap space. I don't get how some teams have 70, 80, 100M in space. If chargers cut some high cap hits, maybe they get to $50M but they have 19 FAs so they really don't have alot of extra money. need to get smart, restructure a few, ... ???

Benjamin, Addai, Liuget are obvious. $20M in cap savings sitting there.
Less obvious as I like them retained but Cap Hit (vs dead cap)

Melvin I: $18.6M (5.25)
Okung: $15.9M (5)
Pouncey: $9.25M (3.75)
...
we could go on ... I don't see them finding that much cap room ...

I'm calling it now also... Josh Allen will have a longer and more successful career than Mahomes. So will Mayfield. Although Mayfield also runs a serious risk of being out of the league in 5 years.

you really, just have no clue about football, you contradict yourself completely

blind hate for Chiefs fine

but to say Mahomes will be hurt cause of his style he averages 3.5 runs per game, and zero designed he runs when he has to ala Aaron Rodgers, but Allen will have a longer career and more successful career, I don't know if its stupid or just ignorant. Allen already has missed 5 games due to his style, and he runs the ball more than any QB in football not named Jackson

2013, 2014 WAR is stupid Champ!!!!

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Lot of good young qbs the last couple years. He could be for sure, but you only have one year of him so far. He due for some regression. If Goff were to win the Super Bowl, he would already have accomplished more than Mahomes for example. Actually he's accomplished more by just making it to the Super Bowl this year now that I think of it.

by this you must think Eli is better than Rivers

comparing QBs by SB's is dumb, no other position gets that comparison

Mahomes has done in 1 season, what no QB has ever done in their 1st season, his numbers have only been surpassed once by Brady and once by Manning, in the history of the game

yah he could regress, a lot numbers wise, but he will still be the best QB in the league for the next 10+ years, I will stand by that. None of these other guys will even come close.

As far as young, I would put Luck a little out of the range, hes kinda out there with Cam and Wilson, not in the Ryan and Rodgers era, but not in this new Watson, Wentz, Mahomes, Trubisky, Mayfield, Allen group

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you really, just have no clue about football, you contradict yourself completely

blind hate for Chiefs fine

but to say Mahomes will be hurt cause of his style he averages 3.5 runs per game, and zero designed he runs when he has to ala Aaron Rodgers, but Allen will have a longer career and more successful career, I don't know if its stupid or just ignorant. Allen already has missed 5 games due to his style, and he runs the ball more than any QB in football not named Jackson

If I were avoiding a QB because i was worried he will be hurt in the future - i might rethink picking Luck. He has missed 1.5 seasons, including all of 2017. He looks breakable to me...

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Chargers aren't in great cap space. I don't get how some teams have 70, 80, 100M in space. If chargers cut some high cap hits, maybe they get to $50M but they have 19 FAs so they really don't have alot of extra money. need to get smart, restructure a few, ... ???

Benjamin, Addai, Liuget are obvious. $20M in cap savings sitting there.
Less obvious as I like them retained but Cap Hit (vs dead cap)

Melvin I: $18.6M (5.25)
Okung: $15.9M (5)
Pouncey: $9.25M (3.75)
...
we could go on ... I don't see them finding that much cap room ...

Teams get cap space two ways:
1) not spending on free agents
2) having young teams built on draft picks and UDFAs

The Chargers -- to me, are fine cap wise because the more I see, free agency should be used for role players and depth; The draft is where you get your star players. Even in the 3rd round or non first round picks

I am not cutting guys to cut guys to create cap space to make more holes on the roster. So I am keeping Okung, Pouncey, Ingram, like you stated as those are good football players and would just create holes

Addae - I am cutting because I don't think he fits next to James and say a guy like Tre Boston - for the same money, seems to be a better use of funds for the roster now that they have Derwin James.

Benjamin - for sure. I am tired of him not taking contact at the 8 yard make and not moving the chains leaving a 3rd and 1 only for the OL to get stuffed and they have to punt. He has done that. A lot!

Liuget - I think has value but can cut his cap number down a bit to allow them to say sign Phillips or Philon

So for me - the Chargers have plenty of cap space to bring back key current players like Philon and Phillips. I will probably let Tyrell Williams test the market and see what other teams are paying (my guess, some team like the CArdinals will overpay, we will see the ##'s and think - fine let him go) .

Than in other team free agency - get your FS, OG and LB. And than go to the draft. And than veterans on the cheap.

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you really, just have no clue about football, you contradict yourself completely

blind hate for Chiefs fine

but to say Mahomes will be hurt cause of his style he averages 3.5 runs per game, and zero designed he runs when he has to ala Aaron Rodgers, but Allen will have a longer career and more successful career, I don't know if its stupid or just ignorant. Allen already has missed 5 games due to his style, and he runs the ball more than any QB in football not named Jackson

Right. I have no clue about football.

Coming from a guy who wanted to trade Rivers and bring in Kaepernick.

And Aaron Rodgers can't stay on the field either. For all his greatness, I want guys that can stay on the field.

Mahomes has done in 1 season, what no QB has ever done in their 1st season, his numbers have only been surpassed once by Brady and once by Manning, in the history of the game

yah he could regress, a lot numbers wise, but he will still be the best QB in the league for the next 10+ years, I will stand by that. None of these other guys will even come close.

As far as young, I would put Luck a little out of the range, hes kinda out there with Cam and Wilson, not in the Ryan and Rodgers era, but not in this new Watson, Wentz, Mahomes, Trubisky, Mayfield, Allen group

I would go under 5 years, 5-10 years and over 10 for grouping

Mahomes is not a patch on Luck's arse.

And what's do you mean by his bloodline? His father being a chitty journeyman major league pitcher?

Then this year they went into the season with an overhauled OL that was touted as one of the best and Luck was seldom hit.

You could see it the Cowboy defeat where Luck had a solid pocket and cruised.

That’s why I picked the Colts over Chiefs in the playoffs and suffered my one bad playoff pick out of 6 games so far.

In KC, Luck was hurried all game and sucked. He looked like Rivers against the Patriots. Same defense couldn’t touch Brady.

I don’t care who your offensive linemen are. You have to have a scheme that fires the ball out quick as the first priority....if it looks like the defense is going prevent, then you can take your time.

Easier said then done, but after a decade of seeing the same type of defeat in clutch games...just copy the Patriots when you have an immobile pocket passer.

Then this year they went into the season with an overhauled OL that was touted as one of the best and Luck was seldom hit.

You could see it the Cowboy defeat where Luck had a solid pocket and cruised.

That’s why I picked the Colts over Chiefs in the playoffs and suffered my one bad playoff pick out of 6 games so far.

In KC, Luck was hurried all game and sucked. He looked like Rivers against the Patriots. Same defense couldn’t touch Brady.

I don’t care who your offensive linemen are. You have to have a scheme that fires the ball out quick as the first priority....if it looks like the defense is going prevent, then you can take your time.

Easier said then done, but after a decade of seeing the same type of defeat in clutch games...just copy the Patriots when you have an immobile pocket passer.

If you got Mahomes, then it’s a different story.

It's really not a different story with Mahomes.

When he's pressured he sucks too. And eventually he will get hurt, bad.

All the slobbering over Mahomes. He didn't do crap in the first half against the Pats then in the second half the pats dropped 2 sure INTs.

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Mahomes came from a shutout and 14 points down in the first half to score 31 in the second half and assume the lead prior to Pats last drive to tie in 4th quarter.

Had KC won the toss, maybe they even win.

With the best rookie QB stats in history and that comeback, there is no reason to dismiss him as a fluke at this point.

He deserves all the praise he is getting, IMO.

Had KC just not lined up offsides, maybe he wins. Had KC not had a 30th Defense, maybe he wins. if losing to the Pats in the playoffs designates you as a bad QB ... well .. thats a long list of distinguished QBs. including our very own Sir Philip.

I saw nothing that would predict an eminent regression, thats all.

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Had KC just not lined up offsides, maybe he wins. Had KC not had a 30th Defense, maybe he wins. if losing to the Pats in the playoffs designates you as a bad QB ... well .. thats a long list of distinguished QBs. including our very own Sir Philip.

I saw nothing that would predict an eminent regression, thats all.

And the phantom personal foul on Brady.

I just think beating Mahomes and KC has to be priority number 1 next season so when upgrading the defense whatever we need to put pressure on Mahomes and his offense should be the priority.

Chuck thinks it’s easy. If Telesco is reading this, he should call him.