If the MVC takes ORU, I'd think the Southland would take UTPA to stay at 12/14 (once New Orleans and Houston Baptist are up in running in football). UTPA is also already Division I, which helps since the Southland took on two move ups.

Once UTPA is gone, the WAC will need another member. They could go after Omaha, Western Illinois, or Denver. The Dakota schools could also be in play.

When did New Orleans say they were adding fb? As far as I know they haven't, I believe they talked about adding it at d2 but opted to not have fb and stay at d1. The Southland's going to be at 11/14 and most likely assumed they'd be losing Lamar or Sam Houston to the Sun Belt and would take UTPA to have a balanced 10/14 split but now that Lamar/SHSU don't appear to be leaving and Oral Roberts is I think they might grab Tarleton St from d2 and have a 12/14 split.

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Now with Loyola is in the MVC, only thing left is that UIC, Valpo and Detroit to follow up, and in response, the Horizon should add the non-Dakota Summit schools. And UN-Omaha would be part of the Dakota school group.

I know these guys have wanted into Chicago, but I have to wonder what it means about schools like Illinois State and SIU, and whether the MVC's ranks will further thin in Illinois.

I'm glad they replaced a private school with another private school. I think it's bad news doing business with some of the system schools, as UIC is. They were chartered as "overflow" and secondary campuses, and in the shadows of the Big Ten, who have a tendency not playing nicely with the MAC and MVC, these conferences are smart to keep from further "dilution." Don't make it easier for the Big Ten when these schools with decent and long-running traditions work with so much less in terms of resources and support.

I'd love to see Valpo, and I think Detroit and/or Oakland would be alright, too, but that UMKC visit seems a bit strange.

I think Wichita State just wants someone near them. If Missouri State boogies for FBS, the Shockers become a noticeable geographic outlier.

Unfortunately, there isn't any other school from Kansas in the FCS or NFS (non-football subdivision) levels. The only ones are FBS level status (Kansas and Kansas State). Wichita State should also upgrade into FBS someday, if the Shockers plan to re-instate football after dropping it since the MVC quit sponsoring that sport.

I think Wichita State just wants someone near them. If Missouri State boogies for FBS, the Shockers become a noticeable geographic outlier.

Unfortunately, there isn't any other school from Kansas in the FCS or NFS (non-football subdivision) levels. The only ones are FBS level status (Kansas and Kansas State). Wichita State should also upgrade into FBS someday, if the Shockers plan to re-instate football after dropping it since the MVC quit sponsoring that sport.

At this point, ANY western program would help them just a bit...be it the unlikely, like Saint Louis and Denver, or the potentially unwanted, like Oral Roberts, WIU, or the Dakota State schools...

I think Wichita State just wants someone near them. If Missouri State boogies for FBS, the Shockers become a noticeable geographic outlier.

Unfortunately, there isn't any other school from Kansas in the FCS or NFS (non-football subdivision) levels. The only ones are FBS level status (Kansas and Kansas State). Wichita State should also upgrade into FBS someday, if the Shockers plan to re-instate football after dropping it since the MVC quit sponsoring that sport.

At this point, ANY western program would help them just a bit...be it the unlikely, like Saint Louis and Denver, or the potentially unwanted, like Oral Roberts, WIU, or the Dakota State schools...

...still better than UMKC.

How about schools like Nebraska-Omaha? In case the MVC wouldn't re-instate football by absorbing the MVFC and UNO's plan to revive its football program, it'll be fit for the MVFC while competing its other non-football sports as an all-sports full member within the MVC. Might also help "representing-replacing" what's left in Creighton.

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