Canadian PDFs – “At no time should it be made available to the public” + more official memos

By releasing this, the Canadian government is confirming reports of eyewitness accounts from the 50's and 60's, yet the 70's until today is still
left shrouded.

Led by the old carrot on a stick again... I am not satiated. We know that reports by good people have been given around the world:

A report on a report.
A description from a distance.
A blurry photograph or video.

Our leadership in the world, where it represents itself, hesitates still to produce full disclosure.
Why this hesitation exists must dissolve first before any further progress can be made.
Perhaps some leaders somewhere would entertain the idea of full internet disclosure allowing humanity at its current technological peak to attempt a
collaborative effort. A new era could develop for humanity if the seeds were sewn with intelligent design.

Yet it seems that again
we humans, who still draw lines on the map which divide us, are not ready.

I'll try to find the time this evening to answer a few of the questions posed above.

its a pity we can't get this type of infomation from other countries

Well, lots of documents have been released by quite a few other countries (including the USA, the UK, France and others). Some of these documents are
more easily available than others. I think I posted a summary about 5 years ago of the official documents available online - but a heck of a
lot of documents have been made available online since then (or could be made available with varying amounts of effort - which is one of the focuses
of "The Collective" project I mentioned above I'd been toying with launching).

Threads like this help to restore my faith in UFOlogy, even if it's just a little bit!

One question for you...I find the cartoon to be an odd inclusion, can you provide more context to it?

Maybe I'm reading a bit too much into it but it comes across as quite profound.
Here we are with thousands of documents representing only a fragment of information that is out there and yet, we still haven't a clue...

Thanks for the great thread op.. I've never really given any credence to the ufo stuff but this is very intriguing. I will be pondering on these
things for awhile.... although i was thinking after reading some of this stuff that men in the fifty's obvious didn't do any ironing because to have
identical burn marks on front and back of the shirt.. is a fairly simple thing to do..lol

I have recently decided to do some research into UFO's and the timing of this thread is great

my first ever favourited thread on here. As for
your collective idea, I look forward to it if you ever get around to it and I'm sure ATS members would love to help you. Your contribution is highly
appreciated and I'll be downloading all those PDF's for my research

Originally posted by RAY1990
As for your collective idea, I look forward to it if you ever get around to it and I'm sure ATS members would love to help you.

"The Collective" is merely my label for my general project to obtain UFO material in various categories in electronic format which can be searched
easily and quickly.

The project has a number of elements, some of which are more advanced than others. I've previously dealt with archiving in PDF format prior posts on
UFO email discussion lists and have made a good start on UFO books and journals. Dealing with government documents is probably the main element - it
is certainly the most complicated and time-consuming, but I think it is also the most important part. Another significant aspect relates to
collections of UFO material held by various universities (this aspect being the one which probably offers the greatest return on the time invested).
Each part is a fairly large project.

Assimilating new material into the Collective will require quite a bit of work, hopefully for which a number of people will volunteer to be drones.

My reason for not posting about the Collective so far on ATS is simply that explaining the proposed work on the various parts will take a while to
type up. Also, I want to finish a couple of other projects first - partly because I think posting those projects may result in a few more people
wanting to help with assimilating material into the Collective.

So basically an electronic library for the topic of UFO's, I like it and it would be great.
Something like this would be excellent for research for others, something like wikipedia but much better is this what your aim will be?

I would happily help but I'm not the best with computers, I fully support the idea though and would help anyway I can

Time is a major issue, I am atm trying to sort into catagories all the government files for future reference and research. not sure how it will work
atm but I know it will take a long time

So basically an electronic library for the topic of UFO's, I like it and it would be great.
Something like this would be excellent for research for others, something like wikipedia but much better is this what your aim will be?

Yes and no...

Yes to an electronic library, no to something like wikipedia.

It's more a matter of digitising the underlying reports, documents etc and making them easily available (ideally via free file hosting websites rather
than on paid-for websites, which have a habit of disappearing and/or becoming associated with one faction or another within ufology).

The focus would not be on summarising the material or expressing conclusions. There are lots of (conflicting) summaries and (hotly contested)
opinions available online. The basic idea would be to dramatically improve ease of access to underlying source material so that disputes can be
quickly and easily looked into and discussed.

(I have nothing against wikipedia or summaries of material. Indeed, I was one of the relatively small group of people that supported "Tinwiki", i.e. a
wiki here on ATS which was vandalised and has now fallen away. That's just not the focus of this particular potential project).

The computer side of things is only part of the project. The main thrust would be to digitise material which currently sits around in various archives
where few people can easily access it. Given the ease with which documents (and other material) can be digitised by people with access to the proper
equipment, fairly large volumes of new material could be made available in a relatively short span of time IF the enough of the right people were
involved. However, as I've said elsewhere on ATS recently, I've been reluctant to post much about relevant plans because I have doubts about whether
many other people have the necessary appetite for this sort of push forward (or, indeed, whether I have the necessary appetite myself!).

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