1. Keep it as is but rename it "The Superfluous Point".
2. Move it back to midfield and make it worth 20 points.
3. Mandate that it must be kicked by a one-legged player.
4. Put blindfolds on the snapper, holder, and kicker.
5. Bring randomly selected fans out of the stands to kick all extra points.
6. Spin a wheel after each made extra point(s) to determine its value - 1 to10 points.
7. Require all extra points to be kicked over a double decker bus at the LOS.
8. Bring carloads of clowns onto the field to perform during extra point attempts.

If you can accept that the current PAT is simply perfunctory, which the numbers bare out, then you'd have to accept that TDs are functionally worth 7 points in today's NFL. Start from that point of view and follow a logical path of reasoning to understand why it should be changed in some way.

I personally think moving it back or making it more difficult in some other way actually changes the game MORE than just formally making TDs worth 7 and integrating the +1/-1 idea. So in some ways I am against drastic changes.

That's not an objective argument. That's the fear of change argument. ?

You can take that BS somewhere else .I like the game like it is ,yes ,so effing what ?Really because a bunch of bored wanna bees(most are drunk in front of their TVs) get tired of something....the whole game should change ,no ,not buying into it .
So why have a kicker ,for the thinking that I see in the posts here we don't need kickoffs either yes or no .

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If you can accept that the current PAT is simply perfunctory, which the numbers bare out, then you'd have to accept that TDs are functionally worth 7 points in today's NFL. Start from that point of view and follow a logical path of reasoning to understand why it should be changed in some way.

I personally think moving it back or making it more difficult in some other way actually changes the game MORE than just formally making TDs worth 7 and integrating the +1/-1 idea. So in some ways I am against drastic changes.

I agree. The +1/-1 idea really doesn't change the game apart from removing boring and useless plays.

You can take that BS somewhere else .I like the game like it is ,yes ,so effing what ?Really because a bunch of bored wanna bees(most are drunk in front of their TVs) get tired of something....the whole game should change ,no ,not buying into it .
So why have a kicker ,for the thinking that I see in the posts here we don't need kickoffs either yes or no .

When Goodell has changed other things, you were one of the guys to defend his every action. This also isnt a bunch of drunk wanna be's leading this cause, this is the NFL and Goodell wanting it changed.

Even if they get rid of kickoffs, you still need someone to kick FG's. Or are you saying they should get rid of those? Since not having a kicker at all means just that, no FG's.

You can take that BS somewhere else .I like the game like it is ,yes ,so effing what ?Really because a bunch of bored wanna bees(most are drunk in front of their TVs) get tired of something....the whole game should change ,no ,not buying into it .
So why have a kicker ,for the thinking that I see in the posts here we don't need kickoffs either yes or no .

The whole game? No. The one play in a football game that is perfectly useless? Yes.

And that IS an nonobjective argument. I still haven't seen one single explanation of WHY the PAT should be retained other than "behhhhh!!! don't change!!!! change bad!" That is literally what the argument for keeping it comes down to.

The whole game? No. The one play in a football game that is perfectly useless? Yes.

And that IS an nonobjective argument. I still haven't seen one single explanation of WHY the PAT should be retained other than "behhhhh!!! don't change!!!! change bad!" That is literally what the argument for keeping it comes down to.

History repeats itself probably. I'm sure a lot of changes to the game over the years have been unpopular.

They shouldn't remove it, however I have found myself walking to the cooler to grab a beer as soon as we score the TD. Extra points, are boring, and an easy point. Move the kick back to the 20 or 25 yard line. I like what Bilichek said about it. "Touchdowns are 7 points now, not 6". It's virtually a free point.

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