How do you know if they are telling the truth

I get the first part but ..what about the sodium ? It’s an equivalent to that saying “a grain of salt” ? Or you have truly convinced yourself that manipulating the electrolyte balance by adding more sodium could help you out ?

I’m sorry, it was just a bad pun, try to hit home the the fact that PE’ers should be both open minded and skeptical.

One group will tell you it 100% works, but you have to take it with a grain of salt, because they are looking for your money.

Another group will tell you they 100% don’t work. However, it takes a lot of time and patience to use an extender properly and impatient people are often very vocal people, so you’ll hear more from them so you should take that with a grain of salt as well.

Somewhere, there is a very small group of patient people who are vocal enough to share their stories of success, and if they are anywhere, they are here on TP.

I’ve realized the only way you’ll really know anything for sure is to try it yourself, and that PE’ers should have a diet high in sodium.

Thanks, you get me that’s all I’m saying

03-09-2011, 02:31 AM

quickbeam1213

herewego (and other newbies who read this post), please do the forum a favor and try PE before putting us through the tedium of trying to assuage your doubts.

03-09-2011, 12:04 PM

androNYC

+1X25

Sometimes it seems like newbs join here just to tell folk that it doesn’t work and why we’re wrong, and how we’re ripping folk off— oh, wait— Thunderss doesn’t charge— so how does it work again?

;)

WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

03-10-2011, 02:45 AM

herewego

Originally Posted by quickbeam1213

Herewego (and other newbies who read this post), please do the forum a favor and try PE before putting us through the tedium of trying to assuage your doubts.

I think you’re taking it the wrong way I’m not allowed to have doubts (no) not saying all this is full of it, and you and others on here are making all this up. But with dealing with something like this you can never be to careful and never ask enough questions.

03-10-2011, 06:32 AM

cantlook

Originally Posted by herewego

I think you’re taking it the wrong way I’m not allowed to have doubts (no) not saying all this is full of it, and you and others on here are making all this up. But with dealing with something like this you can never be to careful and never ask enough questions.

On a individual level, you should indeed be skeptical of everything you hear and anything that you do accept as “fact” should open up new questions for you to consider. If you ever run out of questions, you’re doing something wrong.

As far as getting answers to these questions, the forums of Thunder’s Place are both blessed and cursed with thousands of answers to a thousand questions. Chances are your question has been asked, and answered, in some thread somewhere, a few times.

The temptation is to just post a new thread to ask your question and hope for a quick response, rather than to do the many searches and filter through all the results that the search might return in an effort to get the answer you’re looking for. Falling into this temptation is obviously frustrating to members who have spent their time answering these questions many times in the past, members who have put the effort into posting threads only to have them passed over because we’re looking for an easy answer for ourselves.

I don’t know the easy answer to this imbalance, but I think that part of the solution is to look at Thunder’s Place as a group of people trying to better the entire group of people.

When we come in looking for an easy answer to an individual question, we are not acting as part of a group, we are on some small level, acting selfishly, which justifiably frustrates the parts of the group who have put in the effort for the entire group. (For the record, I by no means consider myself a member who has yet put in the time or effort of the members I am referring to.)

This is not directed specifically at you herwego, or at anyone specifically.

It’s just my take on why you might be getting that feeling like you’re questions have been taken the “wrong way”.

Yes I was also a skeptic with so many guys when I joined saying they had gained, but wished they had taken pictures.

That is why at the start I did. My progress thread has progress pictures, the good and bad. While I haven’t used an extender hopefully people can take some belief gains are possible from my progress and pictures.

We had a bunch of n00bs running around posting about how PE doesn’t/can’t work at the same time that herewego started this thread. I think he has gotten a bit of the reaction to that spilling over on to him.

Unfortunately, the commercial PE industry is much like the commercial diet industry.

Discipline and a long term mid set will see it work for you. But you don’t actually need any products and can do it entirely on your own. And a good 99% of the products engage in what is hyperbole at best; outright lying at worst.

Running a Massive Co-Front.

03-10-2011, 05:39 PM

marinera

Nice post Cantlook. :up:

03-10-2011, 07:52 PM

androNYC

Yeah, who’s the new kid?

He’s cute!;)

WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

03-10-2011, 10:19 PM

HugeWang69

IMO Clamping is almost a no brainier that it works if you really sit down and think about what you’re doing. As far as stretching I’ve personally had no luck with it and if it does truly work it’s a long long process from what I’ve read. But clamping imo is a no brainier true size increaser. Just my opinion. I did do some serious stretching for about a year and gained an inch or so I thought but after no PEing for 2 years I lost it so I don’t know. Just personal experience.

3/11 - 8.25 BPEL X 6.00 EG - GOAL 9.00 BPEL x 6.50 EG.

03-11-2011, 06:05 PM

androNYC

Try stretching after clamping— once the tunica is pre-exhausted you may have better luck.

WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

03-12-2011, 02:46 AM

quickbeam1213

Originally Posted by herewego

I think you’re taking it the wrong way I’m not allowed to have doubts (no) not saying all this is full of it, and you and others on here are making all this up. But with dealing with something like this you can never be to careful and never ask enough questions.

It is good to be skeptical and to have doubts. It is how we avoid making terrible mistakes. All I meant was, have you even tried dedicating some time and effort to PE using common exercises that many people claim have worked for them or did you just jump right into asking if it works? Try it for awhile and then come back and let us know your experiences.

03-12-2011, 05:22 AM

iamaru

Originally Posted by quickbeam1213

have you even tried dedicating some time and effort to PE using common exercises that many people claim have worked for them or did you just jump right into asking if it works?

:head: Damn it QB, you know that I am down with you. But I must ask; link please?

Because, in this thread at least, he never asked that.

Originally Posted by herewego

With so many article on the net about extender, and so many forum, how do you know who is telling the truth, who really did the research and really wore one, and how can we trust anything they saying.

He asked, very specifically, how to separate the truth from the BS concerning online extender claims.

Running a Massive Co-Front.

03-12-2011, 05:42 AM

iamaru

And yes, he does have some kind of weird extender fixation. And yes it would be in his best interest to actually give hands on PE a go for 3 months.

But I find no posts that show him to be a member of the “PE doesn’t/can’t work” troll brigade.