Big pharma wont like this study.

Since legalisation of medical Pot....The amount of prescription painkillers and their associated side effects, has dropped dramatically. One of the
Major causes of death in the UK is Liver and Kidney damage due to taking pain killers that in reality ceased stopping pain in the first couple of
months of taking them , as is the way with mock Opioids. Which means that the death rates in the States where its legal should fall accordingly.
www.denverpost.com...

That is a bit deceiving if you ask me. I happen to have been in pain management for 25 years now. I had 23 major surgeries after being shot and a
couple car accidents. Anyway, I never had any problems with opiates and lab tests are still perfect. Now as a result of the new CDC guidelines and the
DEA's recent new regulations prior to that things have changed dramatically for a lot of people.

If you have not had other treatment for pain, most doctors won't write you a script. You have to try all other modalities first. Surgery, physical
therapy, massage therapy, nerve blocks, and on and on. Also they made the pharmacies only fill a percentage of narcotic prescriptions to other meds.
It is like 20%. Then they limited the amount of opiates the pharmacy could order per month. This meant that even if your 20% of scripts were high, as
in you had a lot more patients filling them, you are limited by the monthly limit and can only fill so many.

Then the new CDC guidelines cuts the amount doctors can prescribe unless you a
cancer patient or terminal. There is a max MME (morphine milligram equivalent) per day you can prescribe. They want it at 50 or lower, and if the doc
feels your case is serious enough then they can go up to 90 MME. All opiates have a conversion factor to calculate MME. Like hydromorphone it is 4. So
one 8mg tablet equals 32MME.

Believe it or not, my MME was 630 when these regulations came out. I am down to 90 MME today. I had been on heavy meds for 25 years and built one hell
of a tolerance. When I was in the hospital on one surgery this intern doctor came in with several others and the chief of maxiofacial surgery. The
chief did all my surgery. He had wrote in my chart 10 grams of morphine over 12 hours. That is 10,000mg of morphine and they were still giving me what
I got from pain management at the same time. This doctor shot the whole 10 grams in my IV at once. The chief freaked, as he should have, because that
would kill most people. It didn't phase me, but that doctor had his medication and prescribing rights revoked on the spot.

Anyway, what I am getting at is that thousands of pain management patients have either been dismissed or quit seeing pain management doctors all
together. Now they are wondering why there is a heroin epidemic. A large number of these patients have nowhere to turn and went to heroin which is
actually cheaper that seeing a doctor every month and getting scripts filled. That and they couldn't get pain relief and turned to the street.

So, they really can't claim the drop in opiate prescriptions is ALL due to pot legalization. It is due to the war on pain patients and now there is
even bigger problems because instead of getting clean pharmaceutical medication for their pain, they don't know what they are getting. Much of the
heroin on the street is now laced with fentanyl. That also is killing people. Pure fentanyl the size of a grain of salt can kill 10 men.

Well, except for the fact the article specifically addresses the states that have legalized marijuana. Maybe you should read it. But if not, be glad
marijuana is getting legal in more states. I have a friend with chronic pain who has been denied pain meds for the last two years. Now, the pain can
be alleviated with a legal and cheap drug which has been stupidly and greedily denied in the past.

We just passed legalization here in Florida. I will soon be partaking in a new type of pain management.

What I am saying is even in legalized states, the drop in opiate prescriptions is not due to just legalization. It is also due to the new government
restrictions which took effect in the same timeframe.

. The government has clamped down on all kinds of scripts recently. Heck even my Ambien which I used to get 3-4
refills per now requires a script for every renewal. So better statistical data is needed before cannabis is hailed as the reason for the decline.

MONSANTO or Big Pharma will take over the Medical Marijuana industry, with a GMO version. They will produce a huge Medical Marijuana industry that has
no health benefits - Due to Genetic Modification. The "Powers that Be" understand that the current beliefs in the Health Benefits of Medical Marijuana
is an unstoppable force. They will run with this Zeitgeist and use it to their advantage.

GMO Medical Marijuana will be highly profitable to the industry (Big Pharma - MONSANTO), but ineffective to the user.

originally posted by: anonentity
Since legalisation of medical Pot....The amount of prescription painkillers and their associated side effects, has dropped dramatically. One of the
Major causes of death in the UK is Liver and Kidney damage due to taking pain killers that in reality ceased stopping pain in the first couple of
months of taking them , as is the way with mock Opioids. Which means that the death rates in the States where its legal should fall accordingly.
www.denverpost.com...

That's the thing, for decades now even doctors and addiction medicine specialists have been saying that everything from alcohol to many prescription
drugs are factually far more addictive and far more toxic for the body than marijuana. I've looked at the data, the addiction evidence, the medical
toxicity science for various chemicals. It's true. It's only the uneducated idiots, or unscrupulous, who continue to say that these should be legal
but not marijuana...

You have a very valid point. Perhaps that's why Bayer now OWNS Monsanto, and that with its "good" name they'll soon be priming the public to be
expecting a "new, improved" GMO version of "medical grade" marijuana! I'd bet anything there's already prototype plants lurking in a dark corner
somewhere, rubbing their leafy little hands together with anticipation, shuddering in unison with the Big Pharma CEO's as their combined joyous,
maniacal laughter echoes through the halls of Hell 😈

So, they really can't claim the drop in opiate prescriptions is ALL due to pot legalization. It is due to the war on pain patients...

I don't think they make any such claim.

They're just pointing out that doctors in states with a medical MJ program write fewer scripts for certain medications - on average - than doctors in
states without a medical MJ program.

The factor you mention - "the war on pain patients" - would lower opiate prescriptions equally across all states and would not account for the
statistics cited in the article, which show a drop in opiate prescriptions specifically in MMJ states in comparison with non-MMJ states.

Monsanto has big green houses here in St Louis (their plant tech is based here). They are always looking to monetize plants of every kind. And they
have a massive advertising budget to show how much they love farmers.

Speaking of medical heroin, it is given out like candy in Missouri for pain. Then the doctors expect you to wean yourself off it. THAT, in my
opinion, is where it all starts.
No one educates you about these drugs before they hand you the scrip. They might write for 10 pills, and then when you use those up the dance begins
to keep supplied.

No one works to get people to try other pain relief. I am a firm believer in a wide spectrum of things to try (massage, herbs, hot toddy, salves) for
pain. Yet the people I know who have pain must research this info themselves. The docs in our area much prefer a script to info.

My 86 year old mother is recovering from a broken leg and she is refusing opiates for pain. The nurses are baffled, but I get it. Once you get
hooked there is little way out.

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