Ownie-I usually don't even bother to read this thread, but he SO ****** me off, that I figured i'd put him in. He committed one of the biggest sins against my pt, in which I had spent a good hour gathering together, positioning and prepping:He ditched me. No, he didn't just Alt+Tab, and leave us confused. He just sat down, and went AFK. He's prolly still in Boyahda Tree. Normally i'd say DC, but after a half-hour? No. Not a word of warning, or anything. As the only Refresher in a 50-level pt, that just destroyed us. I had to pay 2K to get everyone D2's that wanted it. ^>.<^ Don't even -think- about getting this guy XP. He'll ***** you over, anyways, if you do.

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Snooochie wrote, concerning BST forums:

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This forum used to be all about "How can we overcome this?" Now it seems to be all about "How can someone else fix this for me?"

He /telled me not too long ago. He was still in Boyahda Tree. He had fallen asleep. ^>.<^ For about three hours. Asking my forgiveness for killing my pt, costing me party D2 gil, and just a general amount of frustration.

**** no.

Doesn't make much matter, now, anyhow. Stupid Human Tricks Party Number 3 came and went without a single point of XP. I'll see ya'll on the BST forums, or stealing your mobs ^>.>^

Edit:Noted timestamps. It was only 3 hours.

Edited, Sun Jan 16 04:45:58 2005 by Warne

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Snooochie wrote, concerning BST forums:

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This forum used to be all about "How can we overcome this?" Now it seems to be all about "How can someone else fix this for me?"

Yeah, my little brother was busy getting arrested once so I had to go afk without warning (don't ask for details, I'd rather forget about them).

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Nope. It's because I worked 12-hours a day myself, and just didn't bother playing FFXI, or anything, in favor of sleep on back-to-back days, instead of falling asleep on my pt's.

I'm glad I don't do that, anymore, but after being in his shoes, I really don't have any sympathies when he reaps what he sows. Especially after all the hoops it caused me to jump through, just to get everyone back to Jeuno. Yeah, not to mention he wasted a good hour of my life.

Life>FFXI, as you so sagely put it. You'll defend 'em, anyways, just because by the laws of Murphy, someone has to play the bleeding heart. I can understand emergency AFK's, but just because you decided to play in a level 50+, 3-hour-plus pt after 12-hours of work? Hahah, right-t-t...

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Snooochie wrote, concerning BST forums:

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This forum used to be all about "How can we overcome this?" Now it seems to be all about "How can someone else fix this for me?"

Life>FFXI, as you so sagely put it. You'll defend 'em, anyways, just because by the laws of Murphy, someone has to play the bleeding heart. I can understand emergency AFK's, but just because you decided to play in a level 50+, 3-hour-plus pt after 12-hours of work? Hahah, right-t-t...

It's not a matter of playing bleeding heart. It's a fact that some people do have lives outside of this game, see FFXI as a game and not a career, and unless you have any idea what's going on in Ownie's life you've really got no good reasons to critisize him after he both explained what had happened and appologised to you. I seriously doubt that he logged in the other night with the thought "Y'know, I'm going to totally f--- up some dude's party tonight by falling asleep on them!" (If Ownie's reading this, please clarify if this was your intention when you logged in, and if so I'll retract this statement)

I work 12 hour shifts, 5 days a week, and manage to party when I get home without falling asleep, but that's only because I know exactly how long it takes my medicine's "drowsiness" side effects to kick in and can give ample warning.

Now sit back, take a deep breath, and repeat to yourself "I'm getting ****** off because I'm an asshat who takes a cluster of pixels and packets far too seriously" before someone puts your name up here as a bad player and ruins your reputation and you pop a vessel or something.

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Last time I checked, desks aren't comfortable, and sleeping with a keyboard in your lap on a couch with a controller wrapped around your neck is less than desireable. If you are THAT tired there is ONE solution: GO TO BED. There is NO excuse for falling asleep on a pt. If you are tired, then don't play the game. Why is that so hard a concept to grasp? I guess its because I play a job that is impossible to leech with, and yes it is leeching, that I don't "fall asleep". I've been in pt's where people have "fallen asleep" only to miraculously wake up the moment the pt disbands or he is punted. I realize some jobs WILL have downtime, mages MUST rest some battles to keep chains going, but people that go afk without warning deserve what they get. Bad reputations.

Note: I realize Ownie was not leeching and was legitimately afk whether it was sleeping or some other life emergency, he wasn't leeching. My statement is simple: If you are tired, tell the party you are sleepy and log. There will be other days to level and other pt's to join.

Edited, Sun Jan 16 17:16:21 2005 by Bontakun

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I don't see how people can manage to fall asleep at their keyboards....I mean you can stay awake for a few hours after you get that tired.....enough time to realize you need to go to bed.....the only time I've ever been THAT tired was during some party at like 3 in the morning.... >.<

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I've fallen asleep before, in some of the oddest situations. I've been known to fall asleep on the phone. I haven't done it recently, but that's because my desk isn't comfy. My couch on the other hand....

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i have much sympathy for ownie, and by the looks of things, no matter what he did he would have ended up with a complaint. Lets look at the possibilities:

A. Fall asleep while waiting for the pty to start Result: Pty gets screwed over and dont end up fighting anything.

B. Saying your ok and falling asleep on the chain 3, when the mages are at 40% mp, and the puller grabs a mob quickly in hope for a chain 4. Result: People die...and some people HATE dying...

C. Stay half awake, and play your job as well as someone.....half asleep Result: your pty does ok, but that dude still puts ur name up on this board because u sucked.

So warne, theres nothing really ownie could have done w/o ******* you off, and IMHO, i think he chose the right one: A. No one died, and you lost an hour out of your life.I pretty much gaurentee you wont lose any sleep over that.....I know ownie didnt ^^

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Gah!!!! Who keeps rating me down!?!? Speak up if you're going to do it and claim responsibility!!!! Anyways, I can understand falling asleep on your couch...but at your pc....now THAT takes some real fatigue XD

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"I am so stupid that I cannot understand philosophy, the antithesis of this is that philosophy is so clever that it cannot comprehend my stupidity. These antitheses are mediated in a higher unity; in our common stupidity." -Kierkegaard

Ohhh yeah, speaking of Zincypoo, if you BCNM with this guy, don't let him get his hands on any coffer treasure. Have a trusted party leader divide treasure, sell it, and send money. That guy screwed 2 of my best LS mates (and their party) out of a good coffer drop. The other people they BCNM'd with never heard back from him either, after repeated tells and messages. He apparently B-listed them and took off with an Erase scroll, an Utsusemi, and a couple other drops.

I have nothing against the guy personally. But one of the aforementioned LS mates is my boyfriend, so I got to watch the BCNM, the unanswered /tells, the checking of the AH sales log, and the conclusion: "yeh. We got hosed."

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WTF is this **** ?

Looks like another lsvoa noob trying to start some ****. please list your ingame name. I have never bcnmd with ppl other then guys i talk to on ventrilo. If you need to bag on some 1 else please try again on some 1 other then me. And if i ripped this pty off from drops ? please list the full members that participated.

Rather then crying about it provide proof.

BTW if this is so true ask Brim the ls ldr if i stole from you guys shouldnt he know about it ? /sigh

It's easy to fall asleep at the keyboard if you've been conditioned to sleep whenever possible, wherever you are. I personally can fall asleep anywhere, and in front of the computer is one of the more comfy places I have, running from Windy AH to the mog house.

The least comforatble? In an foxhole barely large enough for one person, fitting two, 40 degrees outside and raining. What a nightmare.

on the subject of BCNMs all I have to say is, make sure you do it with people you trust, and if you do it with random people, expect the worst. oh and if they do scam you, put thier names everywhere. save people the loss. I've been scamed a few times as a BRD and it sucks. which is why I'm glad I dont have any seals left to lose :-)

yo this is ownie 54brd/27whm and all i got to say is it took him 20mins not one hr to make pt and wow 2k if your this high lev 2k i **** on. second note i feel alseep and apologized many times. My work speaks for itself and just b/c i couldnt help falling asleep im a bad player come on kid get real. Ty lord and everyone for sticking up for me if we pt in future you will understand that i do my brd job well and am easy to get along with. i say this dude is one of the worst players in the game for not being understanding on something i could not control ty for your support all

Looks like another lsvoa noob trying to start some sh*t. please list your ingame name. I have never bcnmd with ppl other then guys i talk to on ventrilo. If you need to bag on some 1 else please try again on some 1 other then me. And if i ripped this pty off from drops ? please list the full members that participated.

Rather then crying about it provide proof

My username is Scelesta. Open your eyes. That's also my ffxi char (surprise!). The players you ripped off were Halostar and Thargore. Thar was the WHM, Halo was the RNG. It was a linkshell bcnm, (probably the linkshell you mentioned you are in) and Thar got double screwed because the party leader allegedly spelled his name wrong when sending one of the drop shares. The whole thing sounds shady to me, but Thar trusted you guys for some reason. And Halo went too, trusting Thar's judgement.

And re-read my post. I said I have no personal vendetta with you, no reason to "bag on you". I only posted to let other people know that I have watched you ***** good players over. Halo and Thar had nothing against you either, until you wasted their time.

Next:If you're feeling tired, let the pt leader know before everyone's all choced up, and ready to go to our far, far away camps. It's at least a 2-hour commitment for level 50 pt's. You may lose out on XP, but at least you're not gonna get your rep tarnished with five other people, and an entire HNM LS.

Lastly, you did fall asleep on my pt. Suggest you remember that, before you go spouting off high-and-mighty. I'm a BST, nowadays. My reputation is null and void. I'll accept your apology, if we can just drop the whole thing, and you just be a little more aware of how tired you are, before you go gallavanting off with a long-term party.

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Snooochie wrote, concerning BST forums:

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This forum used to be all about "How can we overcome this?" Now it seems to be all about "How can someone else fix this for me?"

Hi all, I was in a pt with ownie when i was just a newbie mnk in the dunes, and he was very nice to me (unless there were some /tells going on behind my back about what a noob i was lol)..... just my 2 cents ^^

anyway, these are the players i heart the most

Niakohr - my most favorite for many reasons Melechi - my best little taru buddy ever Caige/Lyshanna - super awesome all around Sheeshee - as sanriku would say, "one of the best tanks out there", and a great guy Nedd/Ears - simply rocks Eminence - good buddy from the beginning Exelador - thanks for the "check ups" and encouragement ^^ Sanriku - i love you manthra! Hitokage - i'll cook for you anyday Krotine - thanks for the help in the pally quest! Delsinax - the best crawler farmin' buddy a girl could ask for

** and a special shout out to all those generous people that have helped me and others without asking for anything in return **

Me!: One of the best party makers Mystique: Sorry to see you go Lohan: Coolest linkshell member :) Ctenus: Told me how to control a linkshell and when to give away linksacks when people deserve them Maise: Best RNG I've partied with Resinaru: Best PL i've ever seen

/wave Caruviel! I'm definitely putting you on my list now! (It's on the 4th page, just a little bit down if you want to see it!)

You put Ashigaru on your bad list?

Couldn't agree more. Either we were in the same party that day in the dunes or Ashi's done mob training to more than just my party. Ashi seemed ok at first...then he got all offended that we didn't like his camp spot and he trained 5 goblins to us. Then most of us died and he spammed all kinds of "LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! W000000000000000000000000000000000000000T!" in /tell...and then he called my dad GAYmac for no reason other than I was mad at him!

---- Jmac: Oh that does it, I'm booting you. We had a PERFECT camp and now the WHM left because you killed her with your goblin train! Ashigaru: Yeah, well at least I don't F@#$ my dad like you do. Jmac: WHAT did you say!? Ashigaru: Yeah! Everybody knows about GayMac and Jmac! ----

Now I'm normally a forgiving person, but he's going on my permanent Blist for bringing my family into this.

Looks like I have to build up a little more ingame karma ><. Thanks Garin but I need some non-LS assuration that I'm an overall positive member of this server ^^.

One person I need to mention:

Athel: Athel is the best! She's always willing to help me out when she isn't busy and she's always really nice! Best whm I've ever met ^^.

<.< >.> I hope she doesn't read this!

/blush Too bad I read forums on pretty much a daily basis, Kevy ~.^ Thanks for making my night though :) I needed it. I've been tracking this post for a while, and I think I'm finally going to just post my own thoughts. I'm going to try and list people that I would recommend to others that would be a good asset to a PT, which is, after all, the point of this thread, tho like always, turns into a friend shoutout session XD Best: Kluya - by far the best Paladin I have ever pted with...and in playing this game as long as I have...I've seen quite a few. Also one of my best friends, but thats irrelevant. Ambroise - ever need a RDM by your side, Amb will never ever let you down. He can do it all. He's also one of the best people I've ever had the pleasure of being able to call friend. Probably the most selfless person on this planet. Sosyc - This guy is an amazing drk. His equip is digustingly awesome, and I know he worked his *** off for it. Don't know him well but always a pleasure to PT with him. Cuban - bad *** ninja, 'nuff said. This mithra solod THF af3 without taking a scratch. Mrbyte - also a very good pld...and whm...and ninja...will he ever pick? who knows XD Angu - awesome RDM! pted with him on my brd and was nothing less then very impressed ^.^b Vanish - MNK with disgustingly good equip and a great player. was always a pleasure to pt with him Tsusuwusu - great Taru drk, miss ptying with him. **** you all who passed my whm when I switched to brd :-b Antiheiss - another great rdm I used to pt with back in my whm days Shadowlight - good friend, good player. Log on more, tomato :-b we miss ya Braetool - an obnoxious *** that I love to death and would trust with my life ^^. I've known him since I was Lv1 and have heard many say what a good rdm he is. Trizin - great solid DD, nice equip, great player, and a cool person

Of course I can't remember every solid player I have run into in my year of playing this game, but if I have ever complimented you in PT chat, you're on my A list, and if I ever see you're name, I know I will recognize it. As for bad players, I'm going to keep that list hidden for now. I have my enemies I know, and that can never be avoided in an MMO, but fact of the matter is they are my enemies. I have never pted with someone so horrible that I felt I needed to run to this forum and post their name immediately and thus those whom I dislike for various reasons, will stay off of this post. If you see me in game, send me a {Hello!} tell. I'm always happy for a friendly new person to chat with :) and if I'm not busy, help to the best of my ability.

And my last little sidenote, I'd like to point out that MMO's are not just a game, they are people and their feelings, friendships, hopes and dreams, failures and defeats. The minute you treat others in this game like pixels is the minute you lose the essence of the game. Do unto others...? precisely. /endrant

Kluya - great friend, never get to party with him though because I can never convince him and Athel to pick up a second White Mage. >.<

Cristhian - one of my best friends, awesome 75 Paladin, THE reason I started Paladin myself, also a very good Thief, helped with almost all of my AFs, very patient guy. ^^

Sickmage - Just recently found out he's quitting for another game ; ; but he was a great friend and an awesome 75 Paladin, he'll be sorely missed by a lot of people I'm sure.

Nchynk - also known as the (Dagger) (Samurai), hehe. No longer playing Samurai though, but he's an awesome 62 (I think) Ranger now, one of those people that will help you any time you need it, very great friend.

As for the Worst players, I'll just quote Athel:

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As for bad players, I'm going to keep that list hidden for now. I have my enemies I know, and that can never be avoided in an MMO, but fact of the matter is they are my enemies. I have never pted with someone so horrible that I felt I needed to run to this forum and post their name immediately and thus those whom I dislike for various reasons, will stay off of this post.

EDIT: Why do I even bother to post here? I get rated down every time by someone. /sigh

I'm never listed >.<, gotta get out more heh well, most of these people are friends of mine, sorry if you know me and I didnt mention:

Ciric- Wow, talk about a helpful PLD, today he was helping me with LB1, he only planned on spending time to get us the bomb coal, but he then decided to help us (Me(Kerreck), Durreden, and Mye or Mya i forget the spelling, in the end, he died and delevel which i feel REALLY bad for. (I would mention the two RDMs who were also helping but I forget the names please forgive me >.<)

Kathan- Very good 71DRK friend of mine, often gives me information on planting and farming, very nice guy all around.

Gamefreak- Popular guy on Ifrit, it seems like everyone I know has run into him at sometime. Way back a while ago we were both level 20's and would hunt the NMs Breecher and Wallbreaker (this was before I took the summer off and when I came back he was level 70 8P). Great guy

Filian- Met him when we where level 30, currently hes a 60 SAM, seems dumb(jk) but is actually knows alot about alot final fantasy games. We usually mess with each other but were good friends heh. He usually gets bored and helps people for fun. I hope he'll help me with AF

Flintmichael- lvl 60 DRK whos a great friend of mine, likes to craft and likes to help people as well. He's helped me alot with many quests and missions.

Zearo- A great WHM who helped me get Tele-Vahzl crystal, saves me alot of trouble in the future. Thanks buddy!

Sonary- Good PLD who helped PL my THF from 10 all the way to 20 in two days. A great friend.

Lenny- Just met her today, she helped me finish LB1 by staying with me to get Ancient Papyrus, we got it relativly early, but to put in perspective, she was WILLING to stay long enough to get Papyrus (Which I hear can take up to 3 hours or more), very helpful person, thanks ^_^

Jeanluc- Man sorry almost forgot you >.<, a great SMN who started my current LS, very nice guy, hes been away for a bit but shouws up a few times and always is great to talk to. A great SMN who you should invite if you see searching.

At the moment I'm having a blank, I hope the people I have forgotten will forgive me >.<

In the time I have spent with this game I have met a multitude of people! Some of them helpful and some of them not. But it is safe to say that I'm an easy going guy and get along with most of the people I meet! But to make my list you must not only be helpful, good in a pt, smart, and funny! You must also be a good friend! This list is just going in the order that my brain remembered the names so don't feel bad if you got left off.

*Warning Long Post*

[li]Triplenutz- This is the first person I ever met in the game! We started playing the very same day and have been good friends ever since. Anyone who like Slipknot and **** is a good friend in my book!

[li]Ciric- The best PLD I've ever met. Though death follows him around very closely, only because he's willing to save anyone from dying. This fellow bought me my first spell and raised me up from a noob! What a task that was!

[li]Mersedes- Hands down the single nicest gal I've ever met in all my playing! She's helped me get my RSE, farm, and given the occasional escort to scary dungeons! Thanks Mer you're a sweetheart!

[li]Filian- "The sign of a good teacher is when the student surpasses their teacher!" Filian is a prime example of this saying. I met him when I started my Dragoon! He is one the the founding members of my ls and while I'm just now in the late 30's with my SMN, his SAM has hit 60. This crazy elvaan used to cry for his mother when goblins were near! But now this man intentionally creates trains just for the fun of destroying them.

[li]Moatiliata- What can I say Moat you rock. While our paths cross on very rare occasions it's sure to be fun. Your antics on the ls always keep me thouroughly entertained.

[li]Sareela- The best WHM I know! Funny, dedicated, and quite the live wire hilarity always ensues when this gal is near!

[li]Keeperpsycho- You're still a noob buddy, but you've flown through your first 20 lvl's including getting and lvling your sub. I can't wait to pt with you! Keep on truckin buddy!

[li]Flintmichael- You made the list too! I remember you from noobness and now you could destroy me by simply thinking it. You are also the best crafter I know! But that's not saying much! jk

[li]Sangel- Anyone who has the balls to be a SMN has earned my respect cause it's just not an easy life! But if you are willing to spend hours on end lvling your smn magic and farming gil for your mini battles you will find that its one of the best job's the game has to offer! (Although Filian would disagree)

[li]Kerreck- This man can hunt NM's like nobody's business and I admire his patience because I simply do not tolerate NM hunts very well! You're a great guy and you are rock solid in a pt! Any pt is lucky to have you in it! And I'm sure glad you're a Cactaur Killa!

In conclusion every single one of you makes this game worth playing. And weather anyone else thinks its true or not these are the best players (in my opinion) on the entire server! If I had the time every single person in my ls would be on this list but my fingers simply cannot handle this much typing! Hope you all read this and please don't go getting all sentimental on me! *sniffle

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Well i cant exactly say that many first of all because i'm not that high of a lvl... and secondly im involved in a exclusive/small LS so, i'll just say the ppl that make the game what it is for me ^-^ they are: -Xenoes (what a jerk!, lol j/k hes cool) -Saiia (just fun to talk to) -Kelste (funniest taru blm i kno) -Kensai (helped with rdm AF, totally awsome) -Catnipp (one of the greatest friends ever) -Leoaga (funny guy... not much else) -Blackrosekitten (stuper cool mithra) -Yurameshi (great guy, almost way to nice lol) -Docri (used to be me but i restarted so... go me!) -Nanakihero (what a name... lol no hes just uber) -Anyone else i know, im very sry i forgot you =D ---> go to www.illwillpress.com foamy rocks

It's been almost a year since I started playing FFXI. I've encountered excellent players, and bad ones. No one really so horrible that I have to mention here however, so here are some people that have changed the way I play FFXI:

(Bigpunn) - When I was just a wee little lvl 8 RDM, he was in my first party in Ghelsba Outpost. After we were done exping, he saw that I was a newbie and was still in my level 1 armor. He took me to the auction house and got me a better sword and armor, and showed me the start of the PLD quest (trade a revival root for a Spatha Lvl 9 sword). He was really one of the nicest people I've met in this game, kudos for helping newbies like me out!

(Jmac, Tremere, Syndara) - These guys were in the best party I've had in all of my 51 levels of RDM. I was partying with them in dunes, level 16. Just amazing and so helpful! They were the ones that taught me to skillchain I believe.

(Krazybean) - Partied with him in Qufim, our party really sucked lol. Afterwards, I reached lvl 25 and he took me to get my keys. I didn't even know about the Kazham keys until he offered to help me with his awesome PLD. Good man.

(Hadanelith) - I swear, this guy must have Japanese origins or something. He is by far the most amazing player I've ever met. Some of his theories and ideas for leveling are simply incredible. I've personally seen him solo toughs on his sub, 28 RDM. Just...wow...

(Senseii) - Best DD I've ever had. In Crawlers Nest, his MNK was just crazy. I still to this day can't figure out how our NIN tank kept hate from him. He's got some mad skills..

Hmm...not bad for my first post on Allakhazam lol. I've been visiting Alla for a few months, just now decided to join in on the fun. ^.~

"(Bigpunn) - When I was just a wee little lvl 8 RDM, he was in my first party in Ghelsba Outpost. After we were done exping, he saw that I was a newbie and was still in my level 1 armor. He took me to the auction house and got me a better sword and armor, and showed me the start of the PLD quest (trade a revival root for a Spatha Lvl 9 sword). He was really one of the nicest people I've met in this game, kudos for helping newbies like me out!"

Wow, someone who actually believes that Big is nice O.O

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Kitty just because you dont like him doesnt mean everyone else cant. I dont know you, never partied with you, and probably never seen you in game. But, you seem to argue with alot of people on the forums and try to make others look bad. I'm not trying to start another flame war, but please try to tone down the badmouthing of other players. It just gets a little annoying sometimes...

Oh also....Yes, i have partied with Bigpunn in the dunes on more than one occasion. Both times he gave gil/advice to the newer players. So unless he personally attacked you or something, i dont know why your talking bad about him. And if he has, i'm sorry. Its just that hes not the first person u didnt speak kindly of and it was starting to just bother me for some odd reason.

Edited, Mon Jan 31 18:33:59 2005 by GoDeejay

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Hah, for the past few months (ending when I left TTK) he had made it his sworn duty to personally attack me in every way possible....just ask Aesk.....he is helpful to a lot of people but he has a cruel temperament towards a few individuals.....I would elaborate in a more detailed manner but then a certain person would flame me beyond reason;-)

Edited, Mon Jan 31 21:11:43 2005 by KittyofDoom

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"I am so stupid that I cannot understand philosophy, the antithesis of this is that philosophy is so clever that it cannot comprehend my stupidity. These antitheses are mediated in a higher unity; in our common stupidity." -Kierkegaard

o_O I made a freakin account just for this thread.. My name is Machanochi on the server, but what's funny is my name was already taken so I had to use this XD anyway... I dunno if ANYONE knows me. I wish I were a well known person, but oh well. The best players I know in this game are some that have already been mentioned so I won't list them.. but.. Everyone in my LS, VanguardOfAltana, are all great people.. We have so much fun just doing everything together and helping when we can, as well as just chatting and laughing on Ventrilo.. My big props go out to my sister/brother-in-law Garin, for without them, I would never have even gotten as far as 50 drk. Kevbum, shut up and take the compliments, k? =P Always keeps the cures comin and is willing to die even when he shouldn't.. Darque, who is a terrific Rdm, as well as a mnk.. I mean, how many times can you say that you've seen a great Taru mnk? Please... tell me.. /sigh There are too many people to mention on this list.. Nazumi, who lost his/her account and got right back up and smacked SE in the face and got right back to where he was, he stuck it and is still with us.. Stratous, hope I spelled his name right lol such a great guy, does all he can for all of his friends, super guy... Frostyfrosty just cuz he cracks me up XD and everyone else on our Ventrilo chat that I haven't named, thank you for making my life so great every day, even though sometimes things can upset us all, we still retain our friendship. I hope all of you, if you see us ever, please wave or say {Hello!} to my friends, because they all deserve it.

Forgot a few so I came back to say them =P

Brim Dekken Matticus Gotenks and one big big shout out for PATTER!!!!!!!

"I don't know Big by anything, but reputation and everything I have heard has been that he is very generous. Perhaps he had reason to not like you? Did you do something to deserve the treatment?"

He himself said that he just doesn't like my personality....it wasn't anything I've done....I just annoy him because I happen to talk alot XD

As for his generosity.....I myself give out money and advice all the time.....but to have a kind demeanor....that takes effort...

Edited, Tue Feb 1 15:11:48 2005 by KittyofDoom

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"I am so stupid that I cannot understand philosophy, the antithesis of this is that philosophy is so clever that it cannot comprehend my stupidity. These antitheses are mediated in a higher unity; in our common stupidity." -Kierkegaard

Kitty, if being generous and giving helpfull tips and gil to new players took little to no effort, (as you implied) than everyone and their moogle would be doing it. Its not everyday u find a person in ur pty willing to buy u that new set of armor or those spells you've been eyeing.

Generosity relates to kindness, so IMO and the opinions of others. Big has a very kind demeanor towards people.

Again, im not trying to argue, so i'll leave it at that.

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NIN 75 | PLD 75 | BRD 61 Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Notice the difference? You can be a generous jerk as much as you can be a kind miser. Generosity is a popular way of compensating for lack of kindness;-)

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"I am so stupid that I cannot understand philosophy, the antithesis of this is that philosophy is so clever that it cannot comprehend my stupidity. These antitheses are mediated in a higher unity; in our common stupidity." -Kierkegaard

You know it's odd, I'll get tells all the time asking me random question about the game and sure enough when i /sea them they are a newbie, So i try to help them as best i can. But then some of them cling... I'll help them out then be done talking with them then realize they are following me around south gustaberg O.O.... neway i may just be too nice but thats my two cents... what's this thread about again? GOD i love it when they put opiates in my antibiotics / cough medicie!