I would like P8nt to finish my stuff up too. What all do you need from me Ryan? Just address confirmation?

07-28-2010, 05:10 PM

CoolHand

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Smurf

I would like P8nt to finish my stuff up too. What all do you need from me Ryan? Just address confirmation?

Yeah, but if you're still in Castle Rock, you don't need to even do that.

I found my list of confirmed shipping addresses, and it was longer than I'd remembered. Yours was on there, so if you haven't moved since then, you're good to go.

Your box of parts was next in line anyway, so it should be heading over to P8nt's place the first of next week with the rest of the markers he's gonna tune.

:cheers:

07-28-2010, 05:14 PM

Papa_Smurf

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolHand

Yeah, but if you're still in Castle Rock, you don't need to even do that.

I found my list of confirmed shipping addresses, and it was longer than I'd remembered. Yours was on there, so if you haven't moved since then, you're good to go.

Your box of parts was next in line anyway, so it should be heading over to P8nt's place the first of next week with the rest of the markers he's gonna tune.

:cheers:

Perfect. I'm still here....

Thanks for all your hard work. :cheers:

07-29-2010, 04:49 AM

CoolHand

Well, it's 4 AM again. This concludes All-Nighter #3.

I underestimated how long this would take. I'm going to need at least two more of these.

On the upside, I now have all the bolt-on frames done.

I also have three (3) of the complete markers finished as well.

I'm going to have some breakfast, and then go pass out.

07-30-2010, 04:44 AM

p8ntbal4me

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolHand

Well, it's 4 AM again. This concludes All-Nighter #3.

I underestimated how long this would take. I'm going to need at least two more of these.

On the upside, I now have all the bolt-on frames done.

I also have three (3) of the complete markers finished as well.

I'm going to have some breakfast, and then go pass out.

:shooting:

07-30-2010, 05:17 AM

CoolHand

Quote:

Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me

:shooting:

It's 4:30 AM again. This concludes All-Nighter #4.

I now have all the bolt-ons and all of the complete markers done.

That's right, I just have the single oddball bolt-on, spot #10, which belongs to Manwe33 left to assemble, and we're all done.

This one's had the life of a T-Bill, bought and sold all over. I believe it used to be Mobsterboy's, and before that it was Automaggot68's.

Some of these markers now have longer family trees than I do. :ninja:

Anyway, we're about there.

I will finish the last one tomorrow afternoon, and then the ones getting tuned by P8nt will be heading his direction the first of next week. The rest will be shipped to their owners as they confirm their addresses, and then we can all do a happy dance at having finally concluded "The Project That Wouldn't Die" in a more or less successful manner.

At least they all look good.

I'll post pics over the weekend, after I've had at least one day that ends with a good night's sleep.

That is all, I'm off to keel over again.

:cheers:

07-30-2010, 06:04 PM

CoolHand

Alright, it's time to hash out all the shipping details.

I have addresses from the following people:

Going_Home - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
fshrmn76
joelbird - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
Papa_Smurf - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
VeeWee
UTDragon
manwe33
ironchef97
RFLMN1 - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
Matthew Hirota

If anyone on this list has moved since they gave me their address, they need to PM me so I can update my list.

I still need address confirmation from the following people:

Rick Salazar
gortman44

Other than that, we're all square.

I'm still working on Manwe33's bolt-on, but I'll have it done today.

07-30-2010, 07:40 PM

RTspag

weird. no idea why i logged in today to check this thread today, but good thing I did.

Hey Ryan,

This is Brian, and I sold my spot on January 1, 2009 to David Lim. aka ironchef97.

07-31-2010, 01:30 AM

CoolHand

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTspag

weird. no idea why i logged in today to check this thread today, but good thing I did.

Hey Ryan,

This is Brian, and I sold my spot on January 1, 2009 to David Lim. aka ironchef97.

Good man.

Thanks for the redirect.

I'm amazed that there aren't more info gaps than that, after all this time.

Maybe I don't keep such bad records after all.

:cheers:

07-31-2010, 03:03 AM

CoolHand

It is 2:15 AM, and the final Oddball Bolt-On frame is finished.

This concludes All-Nighter #5, and the assembly of the preorders in total.

I will be shipping the markers that P8nt will be tuning on Monday, and then the others that I have confirmed addresses for as I can get them packaged up and out the door. It'll probably take a couple of days.

The others I will ship as soon as I get address confirmations.

I will be posting pics tomorrow (today) or Sunday, as soon as I can get them taken and cropped, uploaded, etc.

While I would very much like to call this deal concluded, I will not do so until the USPS has held up their end of the bargain.

Hopefully they get close to the customer's expectations.

After the preorders have gone out to their real homes, I will take pictures and offer up the remaining parts for sale in kit form.

No waiting, no assembly here, no ano, no problems. Pay the money, get the product.

On the up side, while unearthing all the parts for this project, I have found many rarish mag parts that I thought I was totally sold out of, so those will be going up for sale as well. I've found a few Alpha rails, one or two of the last run UMF's, a Fireblade or two, a couple three brand new X-Valves, and at least one brand new ULE body. I'll get a full list together when the preorders have shipped.

Without re-reading everything, what is involved with tuning this gun? If it is something that has some instruction and maybe some decent online help I'd like to try it myself, if it is a complete pain in the arse I'll pass it onto someone that knows what they are doing.

Also to help with your cash flow problem if you have a bolt-on frame and a Super Ule rail laying around I have cash and a home for it.

08-01-2010, 12:17 AM

manwe33

Beautiful flat out beautiful :cheers: Cant wait

08-01-2010, 12:50 AM

CoolHand

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeWee

Without re-reading everything, what is involved with tuning this gun? If it is something that has some instruction and maybe some decent online help I'd like to try it myself, if it is a complete pain in the arse I'll pass it onto someone that knows what they are doing.

Also to help with your cash flow problem if you have a bolt-on frame and a Super Ule rail laying around I have cash and a home for it.

Honestly, I have no idea how to program these new boards.

The only thing you need to do to make it shoot is set the dwell to between 15ms and 25ms.

That's what I used with the Predator boards, but I have no idea if that's going to be the right range for these new boards or not.

I'd assume so, because the solenoids and all that are the same, but you never know.

The LPR must be set at some pressure below 70 PSI. The solenoids will blow above 70, and as far as I can tell, Numatics doesn't stock them anymore, so getting another one will be a three month ordeal having to get it built special from Japan. In other words, don't exceed 70 PSI, or you'll be very sorry.

That's about it.

Obviously, it is much easier to tell you what to do than to actually do it.

My advice is to set the LPR pressure to like 45 or 50 PSI, the dwell to about 20ms, and see what velocity you end up with.

If you chuff or don't shoot, throw a little more pressure at it until it will shoot, just be aware that 70 PSI is the limit. If you make it to 70 and are still having trouble, there is something wrong with the Mag valve, or the actuator needs to be lubed.

You want to use the highest dwell that won't limit your ROF. I'm almost certain that I ended up using 15ms with the Pred boards, but that was forced by their stupid holdoff settings which reduced the ROF artificially if I set it any longer. The velocity was consistent though, so I guess it was fine.

That's the part that is going to take some time.

Set the board and LPR, take some paint, check the ROF, check the velocity, check for shoot down, etc. Rinse, Repeat, etc, until you get it where you want it.

That's how I would have to do it as well.

If you have a bolt-on, you have to swap out the mechanical On/Off pin and oring from your On/Off for the EMag length pin and quad-ring I send along with the frame.

The full markers come with an EMag on/off already in them.

And I do have bolt-on kits and a SULE rail to sell.

There will be a post coming in a few mins with all the Mag stuff I found and am wanting to sell.

:cheers:

08-01-2010, 01:00 AM

CoolHand

OK, after the smoke cleared, I found that had seven (7) bolt-on kits left to sell.

They are unanodized, except for one, which was poorly anodized blue.

Love the color, but the ano shop did a crap job on prep, so it'll need to be redone. At least they didn't polish it to death like some places do. Reano shouldn't be a problem because of that.

Price for each kit is $300 + shipping.They come totally unassembled and unanodized.

They come with all the hardware, screws, orings, pins, bearing, hose, etc, necessary to assemble the frame.

I'll even include a set of grips (your choice, red or blue).

The only thing you will need that I will not be supplying (because I'm out of them) is an LPR. Any autococker LPR with a 1/8" NPT mount will work.

The electronics are all included, and totally assembled, all you have to do is bolt them into the frame. No soldering required.

Going_Home - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
fshrmn76
joelbird - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
Papa_Smurf - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
VeeWee
UTDragon
manwe33
ironchef97
RFLMN1 - Being sent to P8nt for tuning

If anyone on this list has moved since they gave me their address, they need to PM me so I can update my list.

I still need address confirmation from the following people:

Matthew Hirota
Rick Salazar
gortman44

Other than that, we're all square.

I'm still working on Manwe33's bolt-on, but I'll have it done today.

08-21-2010, 12:38 PM

p8ntbal4me

Guys;

I have received the boxes (2) that contain those guns I am to tune via our agreement.

I have to inventory the items first,.. see if there is any details needed to speak with Ryan about,.. then I will begin to tune the markers as requested.