“Cut regulations, cut taxes, abolish industry subsidies, abolish duplicate Federal Departments like Industry, Health and Education, abolish the crime of having a job known as the "minimum wage", and just generally stop doing things that prevent people from working together to make their own lives and others better.

It's not that hard Wyatt, you don't need a national workshop. Just get on with it.”

:Typical conservative give everything to me do nothing for the country attitude. No ideas here guys.

David Simons
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3 years ago

Why do you think it is appropriate to send men with guns to ship people off into a cage if they don't support mob rule (Democracy). This is what you advocate with taxation. Wouldn't it be more civil if people got to decide what services that wish to support instead of forcing people? Imagine if you went to the supermarket and instead of you picking the breakfast cereal you want everyone gets to vote. You vote for Rice Bubbles but the majority vote for Cornflakes or Wheatbix so majority rule and for 4 years you have to eat Cornflakes or Wheatbix. Wouldn't be better if you could just pick Rice Bubbles and pay for that decision or it would be better if you were force to eat Cornflakes or Wheatbix?

Tim Lester
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3 years ago

:Typical conservative give everything to me do nothing for the country attitude. No ideas here guys.

David Simons
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3 years ago

Easily the best idea here, not to mention one of the easiest to implement. No brainer.

Declan Byrne
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3 years ago

I wish we gave all these courageous people who are being interfered with by the evil Government a flat piece of desert where they can "work together" without Government interference like Defence, Police, Education, Medicine, Roads and all the other evils Government brings.

Jay Wulf
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3 years ago

How about stop pointing guns at people if they don't want to pay tax for services they don't want/need? What is wrong with letting people decide if they want to support a idea?

Tim Lester
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3 years ago

Tim - why should people pay? Because that is how public goods work. Under your scenario, if you don't think you are going to get sick - you would probably choose to not pay towards healthcare. Not going to Uni - nope, don't need to fund that. No children - nope, no need for childcare, or schools for that matter. Don't think we are going to get invaded - scrap the defence force. Don't think your house is going to burn down - don't worry about the fire brigade. It is easy to say, don't pay for things you don't need, but you don't realise you need them until you actually need them. And for most of these services you can't just turn them on and off.
Most people take these services for granted. And they don't want to pay taxes. Lower the tax rate and lower the services. Ask people what services that should be cut for themselves, or their families or friends and they say "none". There is no magic pudding.

Adrian Bunter
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3 years ago

Adrian: Again you are under the false premise that without government there will be no health/education/etc. We all have the possibility of getting sick, homeless, unemployed, invaded ,uneducated etc. Only the delusional which you are trying to paint me would think this isn't possible. Just like every other service it can be provided by the market. For example healthcare can be provided by getting insurance. If you make the decision to have children pay to look after them and if come on hard times you have helped others in the past so private family/charity/churches will help you. So I don't see how you can justify sending armed men to someone's house who isn't hurting anyone and putting them in a cage just because the mob says they must fund something? Defence is a bit harder but not impossible but I can explain if you are interested. The current defence force can't stop much so I think it builds a false sense of security so is government really looking after defence (look up how many tanks in Australia for example). You are right these services can't be turned off and on but nor can the RACV/RACQ. If you think they are worth their hard earned cash they will support them just like they do with RACV/RACQ. So why does the RACV/RACQ survive? You are right most people think these services are "Free" and don't want to cut taxes but keep the services for themselves. This isn't me and those people are just greedy and just as greedy as those who want others to pay for them.

Tim Lester
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3 years ago

An interesting contrast....no govt involvement in anything.....almost all of the other ideas in this 'hack' want government to do more to promote entrepreneurship and start ups. It is ironic.

Ed Bernacki
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3 years ago

Clinton - very easy to write thise suggestions but let's get practical. How are actually going to pay for all those things? How are they going to be practically implemented? The most disappointing thing is that this has over 300 votes!

Adrian Bunter
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3 years ago

Adrian: The people who use them or want to use them is who will pay for them just like most things in life. The disturbing thing is you think it is fine to force people to pay for these things and if they don't comply put them in a cage.

Tim Lester
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3 years ago

Tim - There is a difference between paying taxes and having reasonable regulations and throwing people into jail. See my other comment on your response. In practice we choose the society we (want to) live in. Somehow we have to pay for that.
I'm all for reduced regulation and government getting out of the way, but I also think government can be a very valuable contributor and assist where things don't work properly.

Adrian Bunter
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3 years ago

Adrian: It is a fallacy to believe we pick reasonable regulations. Just about every citizen breaks the law a few times per day so how is that reasonable? We don't choose, for example I was born here and didn't make a choice. How do you determine that government is more valuable over people voluntary decided what they want to support? I have no problem if you want to create a society that taxes people but why are you so opposed to letting others pick their own path (just like religion) in the same geographic location instead of mob rule (Democracy)? Cheers for the reply.

Tim Lester
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3 years ago

The only true Federal departments are DFAT, DIMIA, Defence and Treasury - Health owns no hospitals, Education no schools. These have always been State roles, just give each their share of the money and stay out of it.