Jim from Saint Paul:walktoanarcade: redmid17: walktoanarcade: Not making excuses for super cop, but now that we're on the subject, there's no reason you should be texting in a theater.And yes, previews count. The previews are part of the experience, that's why they dim the lights at that time.

The necessity of your texts in the daylight are questionable as it is, and activating the bright lights inside a darkened theater is rude and inconsiderate to others trying to lose themselves in the experience. Traditionally previews provide the first glimpses of films that may later become cherished classics, and scores of people still enjoy them.

You think you're so important that you can't put away your phone for 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

8/10. Loved the use of cherished and scores of people.

I meant every word. And yes, some people still cherish the little things in life, like previews of new movies without some dolt shining distracting lights in their peripheral vision or worse, loudly obnoxious ring tones stomping on the soundtrack.

I'll say it again:

Is there NO OTHER place you can try and make this point? Because this thread is about a guy who murdered another dude in a movie theater. Not about whether you think using your phone in a movie theater is cool or not.

Look at the creation, it's just a troll account, I should have caught on earlier to be honest.

This reminds me of that scene in that movie where the grizzled old hero cop has cornered some dirtbag in a dive bar and is holding him by the collar, and the cop's uptight rookie partner is all "Detective, no! This is a violation of his civil rights!" and the dirtbag is all "You can't touch me! I'll scream police brutality and have your badge!" and the hero cop lets him go and the dirtbag is all "Yeah, that's right, biatches, you better walk away" and the hero cop is pissed and brooding and the audience is mad too because how can this dirtbag get away with that and then you see this shower of popcorn hit the cop in the back of the head and the old cop turns to look at the uptight rookie cop and the uptight rookie cop smiles and says "Section 403.21b, assault on an officer of the law," and the audience is psyched because we weren't too sure about this suit-wearing pipsqueak who'd been riding the hero cop's ass about everything but now we can tell he's one of the good guys because they both turn around and unload their entire clips* into the dirtbag and then they high-five, although the rookie cop does make a joke about how he's going to have to report the hero cop for using a weapon that is not on the department's approved list and the audience laughs because the hero cop's giant hand cannon was one of the little personal touches that made us like him right from the start of the movie.

* or is it magazines? Eh, I doubt anyone on Fark knows enough about guns to correct me.

Jim from Saint Paul:walktoanarcade: redmid17: walktoanarcade: Not making excuses for super cop, but now that we're on the subject, there's no reason you should be texting in a theater.And yes, previews count. The previews are part of the experience, that's why they dim the lights at that time.

The necessity of your texts in the daylight are questionable as it is, and activating the bright lights inside a darkened theater is rude and inconsiderate to others trying to lose themselves in the experience. Traditionally previews provide the first glimpses of films that may later become cherished classics, and scores of people still enjoy them.

You think you're so important that you can't put away your phone for 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

8/10. Loved the use of cherished and scores of people.

I meant every word. And yes, some people still cherish the little things in life, like previews of new movies without some dolt shining distracting lights in their peripheral vision or worse, loudly obnoxious ring tones stomping on the soundtrack.

I'll say it again:

Is there NO OTHER place you can try and make this point? Because this thread is about a guy who murdered another dude in a movie theater. Not about whether you think using your phone in a movie theater is cool or not.

What the hell is your problem? My posts aren't dramatically different in terms of commenting on tangential than anyone else in this thread, and I already was on topic earlier in the thread multiple times.

Jim from Saint Paul:Is there not a time and place to complain about people you don;t like? I mean does it have to be in a thread where someone was murdered doing what you don;t like?

I never said anything about what I do or do not like, I pointed out behavior that is generally considered to be impolite and inconsiderate. I did it in a manner that was not particularly empathetic. Welcome to FARK.

CrackpipeCardozo:Farker Soze: No, I really did hear it from an outside source, whether true or not. So, do you have citations on how this has never been studied?

Do you have citations that your mother didn't drown in her living room toilet?

Yes, I do. Now, is his statement "It has no basis in fact. It has never been studied. The poster has never read anything like this in a reputable book." verifiable, or is it is simply made-up bullshiat that comes straight from the imagination of the poster and it is being passed to you as if it were a fact.

The Larch:Trivia Jockey: The Larch: Seriously? You think texting in a movie theater is OK?

It isn't ok. However, discussing the propriety of texting in a theater in this thread is really missing the point.

Exactly. It's not OK. It's never OK. Never text in a movie theater. Just don't ever do it. Ever.

Also, it's not OK to kill people either. Don't do that either.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is this: don't kill people, and don't text in a movie theater. Good people avoid doing both of those. If you do either of those things without some sort of life-or-death reason for doing it, you're not a good person. You're a bad person, and you should feel bad.

You killed someone just to watch him die? You're a very bad person.

You texted your daughter in a theater, and then laughed at an old man when he asked you to stop? You're a very bad person.

Both of these people are very bad people. Both did things that nobody should ever do. One is dead. One is in jail.

The Larch:Trivia Jockey: The Larch: So, I guess what I'm trying to say is this: don't kill people, and don't text in a movie theater.

OK, fine. But what bothers me is you don't seem to be admitting there's a slight imbalance between the two.

And what bothers me is that I seem to be in a twilight zone episode full of people who are saying that it's OK to text in a theater. Seriously, read the thread... there are people here saying it was OK because it was the previews, or because it doesn't usually bother too many people, and all sorts of other excuses for terrible behavior. It's crazy world.

You continue to prove his point which is that you think:

Texting in theater = killing a person.

You've been doing nothing but attempting to justify this view in your replies.

justtray:Jim from Saint Paul: walktoanarcade: redmid17: walktoanarcade: Not making excuses for super cop, but now that we're on the subject, there's no reason you should be texting in a theater.And yes, previews count. The previews are part of the experience, that's why they dim the lights at that time.

The necessity of your texts in the daylight are questionable as it is, and activating the bright lights inside a darkened theater is rude and inconsiderate to others trying to lose themselves in the experience. Traditionally previews provide the first glimpses of films that may later become cherished classics, and scores of people still enjoy them.

You think you're so important that you can't put away your phone for 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

8/10. Loved the use of cherished and scores of people.

I meant every word. And yes, some people still cherish the little things in life, like previews of new movies without some dolt shining distracting lights in their peripheral vision or worse, loudly obnoxious ring tones stomping on the soundtrack.

I'll say it again:

Is there NO OTHER place you can try and make this point? Because this thread is about a guy who murdered another dude in a movie theater. Not about whether you think using your phone in a movie theater is cool or not.

Look at the creation, it's just a troll account, I should have caught on earlier to be honest.

This isn't a "troll account." And I have no idea what you're referring to when you bring up its creation, like are you saying the time meant anything? Nope.

justtray:It is pretty disugsting. I actually have to leave this thread. I really didn't think the gun nuts would so defensively argue for an open and shut murderer just because there's some chance the fallout would impact them personally.

There really is no limit to their selfishness. They'll defend murder if it prevents the the most minor of advancement for gun control. Just wow.

Almost as disgusting as those monsters at the ACLU demanding criminals get fair trials and all that jazz. Disgusting.

dazed420:The Larch: Latinwolf: A few people have already claimed he was at fault for daring to text during movie reviews.

He texted in a movie theater, then he laughed at an old man who asked him to stop, and then he threw popcorn at the old man and laughed at him some more when the manager failed to do anything about it.

I'm not saying that he deserved to die, but it's easy to see why someone would come to that conclusion.

Where in the hell are you getting your misinformation. It clearly stated he was texting during previews. During previews a lot of times the lights are still on in the theater.

At no point did the article say that the manager or usher came and spoke to the texter, hence why the texter is quoted as saying "What did you go and tell on me when?" When the old man came back, witnesses stated, alone and agitated, most likely because no one is going to stop a texter during previews.

Reading comprehension is a skill taught in elementary school perhaps you need to go back.

I think it's more like he's making up stuff in an attempt to justify his opinion.

vpb:The "stand your ground" needs to be repealed. The problem is that all he has to do is claim that he was afraid and he is good. It doesn't matter if he actually had a reason to be afraid, it just matters that he was.

Ah yes, making a conclusion based on faulty information that, from I can tell, you just made up. do you really think that's how it works?

when you make an affirmative defense, the burden switches to you to prove it.

you need to have a reasonable fear that not only was the offensive contact imminent and substantially certain to occur, but that it would put you in danger of life or limb if it did.

I hate ketchup...to be it's one of the most disgusting things on earth. I have gotten better since i had kids, but when i was younger if you put ketchup on or near me I would flip out. That doesn't mean i could shoot you if you were coming at me with a bottle of heinz.

So yes, if all i had to do was say "i was afraid so i shot him" then i would agree with you that stand your ground laws would need to be repealed.

walktoanarcade:Not making excuses for super cop, but now that we're on the subject, there's no reason you should be texting in a theater.And yes, previews count. The previews are part of the experience, that's why they dim the lights at that time.

The necessity of your texts in the daylight are questionable as it is, and activating the bright lights inside a darkened theater is rude and inconsiderate to others trying to lose themselves in the experience. Traditionally previews provide the first glimpses of films that may later become cherished classics, and scores of people still enjoy them.

You think you're so important that you can't put away your phone for 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

Is denying someone the full theater experience of previews as bad as denying a toddler the opportunity to grow up with her father?

tricycleracer:Nutsac_Jim: Trivia Jockey: The Larch: Seriously? You think texting in a movie theater is OK?

It isn't ok. However, discussing the propriety of texting in a theater in this thread is really missing the point.

Saying the shooting was because of texting is like saying travyon martin was shot for walking down the street, simply because that was an item that occurred earlier in the timeline.

Okay. He was shot for throwing popcorn at someone.

That doesn't make it sound any better.

He was shot for launching potentially deadly projectiles (guy could have had an allergy to corn) at another person who was surrounded by innocent bystanders who were also in harms way. Luckily this hero was armed and quickly neutralized the threat before anyone was harmed.

kbronsito:walktoanarcade: Not making excuses for super cop, but now that we're on the subject, there's no reason you should be texting in a theater.And yes, previews count. The previews are part of the experience, that's why they dim the lights at that time.

The necessity of your texts in the daylight are questionable as it is, and activating the bright lights inside a darkened theater is rude and inconsiderate to others trying to lose themselves in the experience. Traditionally previews provide the first glimpses of films that may later become cherished classics, and scores of people still enjoy them.

You think you're so important that you can't put away your phone for 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

Is denying someone the full theater experience of previews as bad as denying a toddler the opportunity to grow up with her father?

I've already fully condemned his actions earlier in the thread. And no one should resort to violence over such a thing.

The best part of this thread is all the rude assholes celebrating that some guy was murdered in a movie theater because *during the previews* he was texting. Presumably because they believe he was being a rude asshole and deserved to be shot for it.

semiotix:This reminds me of that scene in that movie where the grizzled old hero cop has cornered some dirtbag in a dive bar and is holding him by the collar, and the cop's uptight rookie partner is all "Detective, no! This is a violation of his civil rights!" and the dirtbag is all "You can't touch me! I'll scream police brutality and have your badge!" and the hero cop lets him go and the dirtbag is all "Yeah, that's right, biatches, you better walk away" and the hero cop is pissed and brooding and the audience is mad too because how can this dirtbag get away with that and then you see this shower of popcorn hit the cop in the back of the head and the old cop turns to look at the uptight rookie cop and the uptight rookie cop smiles and says "Section 403.21b, assault on an officer of the law," and the audience is psyched because we weren't too sure about this suit-wearing pipsqueak who'd been riding the hero cop's ass about everything but now we can tell he's one of the good guys because they both turn around and unload their entire clips* into the dirtbag and then they high-five, although the rookie cop does make a joke about how he's going to have to report the hero cop for using a weapon that is not on the department's approved list and the audience laughs because the hero cop's giant hand cannon was one of the little personal touches that made us like him right from the start of the movie.

* or is it magazines? Eh, I doubt anyone on Fark knows enough about guns to correct me.

Pangea:TNel: Cold blooded killing is ok if they text and throw popcorn when you start making a scene?

I don't think you know what cold blooded means. Reacting as a result of direct provocation is by definition, not in cold-blood.

"done or acting without consideration, compunction, or clemency "

"showing no sympathy or mercy"

Guy didn't even think what he did was wrong. This wasn't an accident, this wasn't a fight that it was a life or death situation. The guy pulled out his gun and shot the guy because popcorn was thrown at him.

yakmans_dad:The very fact that some people -- and they are not few -- find texting an "understandable" factor in murdering someone is proof that our society has become rotten to the core.

The other day we were skiing and my son (8) kicked my stepson (10) while we were at lunch. It wasn't a "hard" kick, but ski boots hurt and require more momentum to get moving than the 8 year old realized and inflicted a decent amount of pain. My son kicked him because he kept calling him names like stupid and jerk. My stepson likes to agitate people.

So clearly my son had a consequence because he was in the wrong, but I pulled my stepson aside and said told him:

"You could learn something from this too. You aren't in trouble but you are in pain. He shouldn't have kicked you but sometimes when people get angry they lash out. I am not saying he was right to kick you, but if you piss people off you might get kicked."

jmayson:Dimensio: This incident is just another example of why "shall issue" concealed weapons permit statutes need to be repealed. The only people who should be allowed to legally carry firearms in public are law enforcement, active and retired.

He was retired law enforcement. And he's killed one more person than all CCW holders I know combined.

mbillips:/Obviously, shooting people is bad, mmkay; it's such a truism that it's not worth discussing. But douchebags need to learn that there are consequences to acting like a douchebag. Good punch in the face at some point in his life would have probably done Mr. Textalot a world of good.

The Larch:Latinwolf: A few people have already claimed he was at fault for daring to text during movie reviews.

He texted in a movie theater, then he laughed at an old man who asked him to stop, and then he threw popcorn at the old man and laughed at him some more when the manager failed to do anything about it.

I'm not saying that he deserved to die, but it's easy to see why someone would come to that conclusion.

Really? It's easy to see why someone would conclude that a person should be killed for being an annoying douche in a movie theater?

No, no it is not. "Because he annoyed me" is not a strong defense for murder.

patrick767:The Larch: Latinwolf: A few people have already claimed he was at fault for daring to text during movie reviews.

He texted in a movie theater, then he laughed at an old man who asked him to stop, and then he threw popcorn at the old man and laughed at him some more when the manager failed to do anything about it.

I'm not saying that he deserved to die, but it's easy to see why someone would come to that conclusion.

Really? It's easy to see why someone would conclude that a person should be killed for being an annoying douche in a movie theater?

No, no it is not. "Because he annoyed me" is not a strong defense for murder.

blindio:The best part of this thread is all the rude assholes celebrating that some guy was murdered in a movie theater because *during the previews* he was texting. Presumably because they believe he was being a rude asshole and deserved to be shot for it.

Where's your line? The long-ass Coke commercial after the previews? The studio splash? Opening credits? Would you go so far as give him a pass for ruining the horse head scene in Godfather with his beep-boop-beeping?

Dimensio:This incident is just another example of why "shall issue" concealed weapons permit statutes need to be repealed. The only people who should be allowed to legally carry firearms in public are law enforcement, active and retired.

Looks like 13 killings (charges for manslaughter, murder, etc...) with 5 of those being dismissed or found not guilty. That leaves 8 people convicted of homicide or having pending charges for homicide that had a CPL.... out of almost 426k.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does that not translate to a murder rate of approximately 2 out of 100k population? So according to my analysis, CPL holders have a murder rate less than 1/2 of the approximate national rate which is about 4.7 per 100k. (and the 8 I'm referring to weren't all murders... man slaughter, and other charges were included)

So .000018% of the CPL population have perhaps unjustifiably killed someone last year.

Yep... those CPL holders are menaces to society!!!

Also, there is 2,997 total charges... with 935 of those being dismissed or found not guilty, leaving 2,062 pending or convicted. Out of 426k that's a whopping .004% of CPL holders are criminals.

So do people really think they have a leg to stand on with their claims that CPL holders shouldn't have guns? Do they really think that they have a statistical leg to stand on to claim that gun toters are whackos or that they're just going around LOOKING to shoot someone? Do they really have a leg to stand on to claim that gun toters are addressing every situation... altercation....confrontation they come upon by whipping out their gun?

Statistical analysis of the information from Michigan suggests the anti-gunners have absolutely no case.

I'm not surprised though that people continue to COMPLETELY talk out of their rear ends and argue based on emotion rather than logic and facts.

Latinwolf:dazed420: The Larch: Latinwolf: A few people have already claimed he was at fault for daring to text during movie reviews.

He texted in a movie theater, then he laughed at an old man who asked him to stop, and then he threw popcorn at the old man and laughed at him some more when the manager failed to do anything about it.

I'm not saying that he deserved to die, but it's easy to see why someone would come to that conclusion.

Where in the hell are you getting your misinformation. It clearly stated he was texting during previews. During previews a lot of times the lights are still on in the theater.

At no point did the article say that the manager or usher came and spoke to the texter, hence why the texter is quoted as saying "What did you go and tell on me when?" When the old man came back, witnesses stated, alone and agitated, most likely because no one is going to stop a texter during previews.

Reading comprehension is a skill taught in elementary school perhaps you need to go back.

I think it's more like he's making up stuff in an attempt to justify his opinion.

There was a lof of that in the Zimmerman threads too. It was like thousands of FARKers were there and saw it all go down and could tell you exactly how it happend but did nothing to stop it. Then all the proof came out and it didnt matter because people were attached to their made up version of events by then. You can see that some of them are still pushing it in this thread.

Farker Soze:Danger Mouse: Footage from the theater video shows Popcorn dad tossing individual pieces of pop corn in the guys face one at a time while mocking him;

"What? are you going to do cry now? Are you going to cry? Huh?"

"What's the matter? Got some popcorn in your face?"

"What are you going to do? Shoot me?"

-BLAM-

That reminds me. Often, the last words of someone with a gun pointed at them is something along the lines of "go ahead, shoot me" and the shooter promptly does. Apparently, we're hardwired in a way where if someone gives you permission it breaks all of their otherwise strong inhibitions in this situation. So, if someone ever has you held at gun point, it is not a very good time for the snide "do it!" remarks you see in the movies.

there was this incident last year where this college kid was stopped by a cop for some traffic incident. The cop ended up pulling his gun out for some reason, and the kid says to him "What are you going to do? Shoot me?" and the cop shot him dead.

I was thinking that the cop thought it was a dare which I guess it was.

The cop, of course, will not be charged with anything and will get a week or 2 off with paid vacation.

The Larch:Trivia Jockey: The Larch: So, I guess what I'm trying to say is this: don't kill people, and don't text in a movie theater.

OK, fine. But what bothers me is you don't seem to be admitting there's a slight imbalance between the two.

And what bothers me is that I seem to be in a twilight zone episode full of people who are saying that it's OK to text in a theater. Seriously, read the thread... there are people here saying it was OK because it was the previews, or because it doesn't usually bother too many people, and all sorts of other excuses for terrible behavior. It's crazy world.

During previews who cares, previews around here run for 30+ minutes before a movie starts. And the previews start when the movie "show time" is listed as. If the douche couldn't be bothered to get out of his seat and text outside the theater, then sure, kill him, but it was during the previews.