I used to pick my rotweiller up by the scruff of his neck and he weighed 150 lbs. I don't care that much for compactness. Give me a camera with man sized buttons and a lens that will go from really wide angle to a far reaching zoom. Do they use the Mayor of Lollipop Land to test these or what??? Oh yeah Ian sorry for the tirade. They call it a hybrid auto-focus. I guess it's better than no manual focus. Not really knocking these, it's just so frustrating to try to find what you know would be a great tool for your hobby. They go in half measures. Why not go all the way and see where the chips fall. There are a lot of guys like me that shop at the big and tall that can put a full sized DSLR in their pocket like a cigaret lighter and would like to have all the features on one camera. Again I tirade!! Sorry folks, the wife said I couldn't get the P850 for a while!! &amp;^%**&amp;&amp;%$#@@!!#$#$$$