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Friday, March 11, 2011

Telangana 80: Toppling our Masters and Statues

Every freedom movement involves toppling its masters. The masters ruling Telangana now are the Seemandhra politicians, leaders and their institutions, supported by Indian Government in New Delhi. In our revolution, we will also be toppling our masters. How that toppling will happen, will it be passive and peaceful or active and aggressive, is something that only our masters will decide. If they let Telangana form without much resistance it will be a passive revolution. Otherwise, there is a chance it will be an aggressive one. Borrowing the quote from Dileep:

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

-John F. Kennedy

When the Government of Andhra Pradesh resorted to autocratic and dictatorial methods of completely suppressing all freedoms in this region by arresting more than 100,000 Telangana people merely on suspicion, arresting most of the political leadership right before the march, and setting up hundreds of barricades in the region, the people of this region, especially some of the fiery youth who were arrested again and again in the last one year on whims and fancies of the dictatorial police force of Hyderabad, took matter into their own hands. The choice left to these protestors was no longer a passive and peaceful revolution.

In the last one year, people of Telangana have led hundreds of thousands of peaceful protests, rallies, and assemblies. If passive marches would have given us a state, then we should have got our Telangana State thousand times already. It is clear for people of Telangana that these peaceful marches do not yield any results. So, how would you convince the protestors to keep it peaceful anymore, especially when you lock up entire leadership?

People Vs Government

Government of Andhra Pradesh took it as a challenge against people of Telangana and enforced the clampdown five days before the march by arresting every leader in the districts of Telangana. Almost every protestor coming from the districts of Telangana was stopped outside the Hyderabad city. Police boarded every bus to arrest or stop anyone under 30 from entering Hyderabad. On the last day 43 trains were cancelled in the region. All bus services to the city were suspended. The whole city was barricaded with barbed wires, fencing and armed forces ensuring nobody entered the city. Within the city, barricades and massive army forces were stationed at all major entry points to make sure the Million March becomes a damp squib.

Instead, Million March became a roaring success. Thousands of Telangana supporters broke through the barricades facing the prospect of immediate arrest. It was sheer grit and determination of the Telangana supporters living in Hyderabad. They came to Tank Bund as if they have won a battle. Lawyers, doctors, young and old, showed up on Tank Bund. Some of the leaders had a dramatic entry, like Harish Rao on a boat. The people were elated and celebrated the spirit of common brotherhood. However, some young people were quite angry that Prof Kodandaram was arrested. They gave clear warning on TV that they would go ahead and topple the statues if he was not released. Government of Andhra Pradesh did not budge. It let the young people take up the challenge. And they did.

Breaking the statues

For a very long time now Telanganas were quite peeved that out of 33 statues on Tank Bund only 7 were of people from Telangana. They asked, ‘how come our hero figures don’t feature?’ Clearly it was another case of Seemandhra's marginalization and suppression of Telangana people. Today, these youth took the opportunity to topple these statues of Seemandhra hero figures.

If a woman is pushed into complete submission and raped repeatedly, if she cries for help and still nobody pays attentions, and if one day she retaliates with vengeance, slaps the perpetrator on his face and then abuses him, will we now find fault with that woman for raising her hand and for swearing abuses, calling it so-un-lady-like? Or do we sympathize with her and understand why she had to resort to hitting the perpetrator and why she had to abuse him?

When the rape victim hits back it is a sign of defiance. When the angry youth destroyed these statues and threw them into Hussain Sagar it is a sign of defiance.

Such expression of defiance is common in almost every freedom movement on the planet. In almost every people’s movement, the symbols of oppression are attacked. When Iraqi people got freedom from Saddam, they toppled his statues. When Egyptians wanted to get rid of Mubarak’s oppressive regime, they went about toppling his statues. When Telanganas wanted to get rid of Seemandhra rule, they went about toppling their statues.

Government of India and Government of Andhra Pradesh has ruthlessly tried to suppress a genuine democratic expression by deploying thousands of forces across the entire region, putting up barricades, making Telangana look like war zone, arresting people on mere suspicion, suppressing human rights, and curtailing free movement. When the fiery youth, who came to Tank Bund fighting through various check posts and escaping from the police, were vandalizing the statues, a respected Telangana activist tried to stop these youth. The youth asked him, ‘so where were you when we were repeatedly arrested by the police?’ He had no answer.

Be proud or be ashamed?

Some of our detractors, which include the national media and our beloved Seemandhra antagonists, are pained by the destruction of these lifeless statues. They think it is a shameful act. They think it is a disgrace to our movement. Some of the Telangana leaders also have been pushed to feel guilty.

Why should Telangana be ashamed of this act? Why should it be a disgrace?

While we in Telangana are pained by the arrest of 100,000 people based on mere suspicion and death of 600 students who have committed suicides, the detractors are pained by the destruction of few dumb and lifeless statues on Tank Bund. It shows where our priorities lies. While we are interested in preserving the lives of real people and protecting our inalienable rights, there are more interested in preserving objects of stone. So who is more humane?

I don’t see a reason why we should apologize for this act or feel ashamed. We have always maintained that Telangana Movement involved cultural renaissance of Telangana. We are in the middle of a revolution – maybe we can call it Pink Revolution (because you tend to see pink flags everywhere). This revolution involves de-Andhraization of Telangana. You cannot have a revolution without removing the statues of your oppressors. Removal of the statues was something that had to be done eventually. These statues are not pieces of antiquity. They were made 25 years ago and they have no archaeological value.

If Seemandhras had cooperated with our movement we would have gladly shipped these statues to their new capital. But they have given us no choice. Seemandhras say they have been emotionally hurt. Well, it’s a small price to pay for all the hurt Telanganas have gone through in the last 54 years of oppression, where we were hurt not just emotionally but politically, economically and culturally.

Today, whole of Telangana should celebrate the destruction of the statues, which are symbols of our oppressors, as the greatest democratic expression of the 40 million Telangana people. Today, we should take responsibility for what happened on the Tank Bund and say that ‘yes, we are proud of what happened’.

Today, we made it clear. This is our capital. Your statues are not welcome here anymore. You cannot impose them onto us. Sooner you realize the better it is for all of us. A movement becomes violent not because it wants to become violent, but it becomes violent only as a reaction to oppressive methods used by the ruling regimes.

Today, the government in power in Andhra Pradesh is an illegitimate government unrecognized by people of Telangana. All those in seat of power will be discredited and discarded. And the fate of the politicians in Telangana who do not put pressure on their respective parties and governments will see a similar fate - their political careers will be destroyed and submerged into Hussain Sagar, like the statues of Tank Bund.

Guys it took extraordinary Courage and Creativity to make Million March a Success , a fake wedding was organized near Tankbund so as to give an Alibi for 500 people gathering there, there were Dozens and dozens of Police Check points posted between Telangana zillas and Hyderabad checking people thorughly at each point so Some Doctors Came in a Ambulance so that no one can stop them, Many protesters at Tankbund wore Face masks of Ambedkar, Kodandaram so that they couldnt be Identified by Police and the Great escape feat by Harish rao was straight from Movies, Jumping from Jeep and escaped by bike and took a small boat to reach tankbund.

Dude I started to Tankband from DSNR at 3.45 reached there in 15 mins, parked in a nice spot and Suprisingly the Police Just Gave up stopping protestors i was almost Taunting them taking their Pics on Their face and others were taunting them with slogans to join protests.

Some local Muslims were Providing water to the Protestors, the Songs were Ultimate dude, Just when i went in they were taking down the statues what i found was that the JAC Co-convenor was just sitting 50 feet away from where the statues were getting Demolished, it was a pretty sight dude.

What was suprising was that I always thought the Statues where some expensive Granite , to my astonishment they were all HOLLOW, like cheap POP ones. SO much for Telugu sorry Andhra pride.

One of my cousin in Narsing, near HYD took his uncle(very old man) to hospital due some serious illness. They went directly to doctors house near by(local doctor was at home that time), while doctor examining inside his home my cousin and few of his relatives and friends(around 4-5 people) waiting outside, all of sudden police came and dragged them into vans. Luckly doctor saw this from window and called my cousin's home to inform, other family members came to doctors house to pickup this old man.

Is Annamayya and Sri Krishnadevaraya someone's personal? Are the poets who contributed to richness of Indian culture some region's property? What is ur education and culture and how different r u from Taliban and Mahmud Ghazni etc who tried to destroy culture?

U justify destruction of statues of people who have nothing to do with ur grievances. They contributed to culture and heritage that India is proud of. U compare destruction of national heroes and devoted poets with tinpot dictators and justify ur actions. How much more despicable and morally and ethically bankrupt can u get?

U people take up 600+ lives lost and justify destruction of Annamayya statue for 600 lives lost. Why were there no suicides in 1980s and 1990s before TRS was formed and after 1972 agitations? How will destruction of poets statues compensate for loss of lives?

Every little kid knows that the cops were lenient towards the 'million' people going to tank bund. they wanted to prevent a chaos that would have resulted in people falling into the water.

BBC might think there were 50000 people. Most of saw a different scene there anyway. even assuming that 100000 more people would have come if they had not been stopped....a million is still far away. are you guys surprised that after the march while Jubilee bus stn was full.....imliban was empty. looks like the neighbouring MBNRites saw no reason to join the march.

Sujai.....Hyderabad is not 'your' capital. It is the capital of AP. If you want statues installed....what were you doing for 25 years? Why did you shut your mouths all these years. What are the city MPs and MLAs doing about installing Komaram's statues. What are the Telangana MPs and MLAs doing. Why has the issue not been raised in Assembly or in the GHMC?

Don't you guys understand what will happen now? Public money will be spent on putting up these stupid staues again. ( yes I consider all statues stupid but don't acccept their demolition)

This was not a natural emotion. It was well planned. Now we all will bear the costs.

There was no reason to do the drama by Harish Rao. You think the cops did not see him getting into a boat? There were a dozen police boats in the water.

Is Annamayya and Sri Krishnadevaraya someone's personal? Are the poets who contributed to richness of Indian culture some region's property? What is ur education and culture and how different r u from Taliban and Mahmud Ghazni etc who tried to destroy culture?

U justify destruction of statues of people who have nothing to do with ur grievances. They contributed to culture and heritage that India is proud of. U compare destruction of national heroes and devoted poets with tinpot dictators and justify ur actions. How much more despicable and morally and ethically bankrupt can u get?

U people take up 600+ lives lost and justify destruction of Annamayya statue for 600 lives lost. Why were there no suicides in 1980s and 1990s before TRS was formed and after 1972 agitations? How will destruction of poets statues compensate for loss of lives?

Good going....I wish telangana be formed as soon as possible. One can see the future of a non telanganite or a so called settler in the state of telangana once it is formed. Then without caring for the people every state of telangana can have stautues of all the telanganite leaders in eevery street or can go ahead and build temples for all the JAC members and its leaders. For a long time all the non telangaintes having been raping telangana people I wish that doesnt continue any more. I wish telanga be the number one state in all aspects, education, health care, business, IT, Infra, Agriculture. In order to have this we got many people out there who work 24 hrs only for the good future of every telanganite person. All the 10 crore people who are willing to have telangana shall take atmost care and work together with peace and harmony in order to live a happy life for themselves and their future generations. I think now no one is able to beleive that once telangana is formed all the non telanganite people can leave peacefully in the telangana state. If this is made clear then i think the process for formation of state would be faster. Just make a statement that all the non telanganite people living in telangana regions shall be thrown away beaten up raped or what ever if they are still living in telangaga. Then i am sure many people shall start evacuating the places out of fear, which they have already started to.Then i think there would not be any problem to form a telangana state. Jai Telangana.

Taanu cheste samsaram pakkinti vaadu cheste vyabhicharam. If I rape a girl and support my reason and get 10 people to support the same then the bad which i did is no more bad because 10 members are agreeing with the reasoning I have given and 1 is against it.

Please dont pose questions which are childish according to sujai. Read the about me in the blog. Every one has their opinion and he has one. If you dont agree please dont visit the blog. sujai investigates and gets the knowledge form all the perspectives and comes to a conclusion and sticks to it. He doesnt comment or write from an idea which comes to him right soon after he woke up from his bed.

So it would be better if you just visit make a comment and leave instead of posing questions and expecting answers. :) There are may such instances where questions were asked and they were skipped and only the ones which were comfortable were answered. So you are not new to this. Welcome to the new world. :)

Please dont pose questions and expect an answer. Please visit the About me page in this blog and then come back. you yourself will stop asking questions ;).

Sujai doesnt write anything without thinking about it twice and from all perspectives. He writes what he beleives in and supports it even there is some thing wrong(according to us) going in it. So how can you expect an answer for such questions. Even if they were answered you would be getting an other reply supporting and justifying the same. So do you think thats going to end anywhere? :). Instead feel free to comment your opinion or else you ll get a reply saying to leave the blog if you are not interested :) or you must be a 5th grade student who doesnt understand anything :P

When we speak about amarana nirahara deeksha we take example of potti sri ramulu (for those who dont know him he is "potti" as referred by green star :P). When we speak of non voilence we quote gandhi as an example and indian independence moment as a reference. When some thing voilent takes place we quickly get the quotes by John F Kennedy :).

Quote:"If you want statues installed....what were you doing for 25 years? Why did you shut your mouths all these years. What are the city MPs and MLAs doing about installing Komaram's statues. What are the Telangana MPs and MLAs doing. Why has the issue not been raised in Assembly or in the GHMC?"

So, who from SA asked to install these statues in the first place? none. When Govt. take initiative to install grate people statues, they should not do discrimination in electing names. No one from SA or TG have to ask for statue installation.

Please dont ask the stupid question like why did we waited for 25 years or so.

If so, we too have to ask why did you waited more than two decades to install these statues? why didnt you did right after the merge?

Quote:"Then without caring for the people every state of telangana can have stautues of all the telanganite leaders in eevery street or can go ahead and build temples for all the JAC members and its leaders."

I dont know why these SA people are soo crazy about there statues, that stupid Jagan is already making a YSA statue forest. They care more about statues more than the lives.

What did TG guys achieve from this whole episode? NOTHING. May be just some sadistic pleasure. The statues will be replaced exactly as they were before the incident. So what did they really achieve? I was reading the news in all the national newspapers like timesofindia, ibnlive, NDTV etc and everybody condemned them. If things like this happen, the day is not far when the rest of this country will frown upon TG or may even despise them.

@GreenStar..Dude thank you for your conclusion. You are genius when it comes to conclude and thinking about the perspectives of all non telanganite people. Did I ask you why are you pride of telangana state? common man is not going to get any benifit whether the state is divided or not. There is just a hope that it gets better which is debatable. No one is speaking about the statues here. They can be installed if destructed. But there is no point in going on that basis. Why are Apsrtc people pride of there buses? why are school children pride of their examinations? why cant they sacrifice their exams for this great event of forming our telangan state. For an educated indiot it doesnt matter whether you destruct a statue or not.But for a mob it matters a lot. many people in india with your mindset are unable to act strongly in reply to some events that place. What is there in destroying a temple its just a fake idol which can do nothing. where as if a masjid or a church is touched we speak of all the elite classes in india are making it difficult for the other communities to live peacefully.

Feel pride of damaging statues, buildings, burning down buses, cars all public properties because all telangana people are rape victims who have been suppressed by Andra or rayalaseema idiots.

Quote:"What did TG guys achieve from this whole episode? NOTHING."Like one of our friend mentioned some time back

ఆకుకి ఈకకి తేడా తెలియని ప్రతివాడు అభిప్రాయలు చెప్పేవాడే.

Above suits well for you. The actual goal of March is not destroying statues, that is a side effect.

Quote:"The statues will be replaced exactly as they were before the incident. So what did they really achieve?"So if it is that simple to replace, why do you make so much fuss about it?

Quote:"I was reading the news in all the national newspapers like timesofindia, ibnlive, NDTV etc and everybody condemned them."Really? the question is not how many condemned, but the question is home many condemned by heart. Even TRS says they condemn. Another example when people agitated against the Power Plant, police shot two guys, Govt. said they condemn it. Do they really mean it?

Quote:"If things like this happen, the day is not far when the rest of this country will frown upon TG or may even despise them."No one cares.. from past few years, TG demands for TG state, SA wants status quo, did any one cared about it? Did any development happened? actual situation became worst. At the end its only you and I keep fighting, no one from outside give a damn about it.

@HyderabadiWhat did TG guys achieve from this whole episode? NOTHING. May be just some sadistic pleasure. The statues will be replaced exactly as they were before the incident. So what did they really achieve? I was reading the news in all the national newspapers like timesofindia, ibnlive, NDTV etc and everybody condemned them. If things like this happen, the day is not far when the rest of this country will frown upon TG or may even despise them

Well said Hyderabadi.. you were being nice when you used words like 'frown' and 'despise'. In reality it is worse than that. TG activists who resort to these things are a black mark on this nation. Something that India should be ashamed of. If things continue like this, I'm sure the rest of the nation will very soon boycott these people.

Quote:"What is there in destroying a temple its just a fake idol which can do nothing."

As per your logic, many of out great people said to see the god in other humans. Tell me how many are following that?

These kinds of statements looks good to give a free speech, but not good when you try following in real life.

All I am saying is, you should have reacted in same level when ever such(or worst) things happened in the state. SA people give a damn when hundreds are dieing in TG. Dont they feel TG people are there fellow telugu people? or there brothers? When they dont love there fellow telugu people why do they care about there Telugu pride?

Once again, do the mellow drama like sky has fallen on you. Here real lives are falling, who cares about your statues ?

Quote:"TG activists will soon be called Taliban of India if they continue doing things like this."

For killing hundreds of TG people, did India calling SA people as 'Butchers for TG'?

Same way your wish will not be fulfilled. By the way you keep calling us with that name from past one year, and no one give a damn about it. so, Enjoy yourself.

You can even make a rally with few thousands to support your cause, and always cry about TG and there courage. I cant help you man for your cowardliness. As long as you send suitecases to central, you can talk all you want.

@GreenStar..Dude again thank you for concluding mine as a speech. No point in educating you on the way you support and feel like its achievable.If at all it is successfully acheived you in person wont be able to stop bad things happening further, even if a telangana state is formed. According to my knowledge where i am living in a small well, i did not see any one killing a person if he said he is from telangana region. Killing yourself is way far different from other person killing you. One may be thrown in to circumstances where there is no other way than killing yourself, but that doesnt give a solution. But many people out there can surely see that you get beaten up if you say you are from andhra region I myself form an example of this and i am sure you wouldnt open your eyes and ears even if i say this. Now every one has a reason, even if a school kid doesnt get good marks he can blame it on a non telanganite teacher. That not only happens in a region perspective it also happens if he is from an other caste. One individual mistake cannot be tagged to an entire community or region.

Greenstar,Whenever the TG activists do something horrible like the attack on JP Narayan in assembly or destroying statues they come back with one statement to cover their acts: "600 people have sacrificed their lives for Telangana".

Tomorrow they can rape a seemandhra woman walking on the road and if someone asks them why they did it they will say "600 people have given their lives. We should talk about that. Is raping one woman such a big deal?"

First of all you need to understand that neither the police nor the SA people killed these 600 people. Most of them committed suicides and no one wants people to commit suicides. Really. I feel really bad for their parents. So if someone climbs up a building or a cell phone tower and says give us separate state right now or I will jump off. I really don't know what to tell them other than please don't be stupid and think about your parents and loved ones.

I will use Sujai's favorite example of a boy forcing a girl to be in relationship. This is similar to that. A boy proposes a girl. Girl rejects, the boy commits suicide. On one hand you feel really bad for the boy. But on the other hand, do you say the girl killed the boy? Is she really responsible for his death? Shouldn't the boy have the courage to face the problems in life and deal with them bravely?

So next time try to convince people not to take such extreme steps. Don't give a match stick to somebody who put kerosene on himself. Please don't use it for your own politics.

Hyderabad is not the capitol of telangana.Hyderabad is the capitol of united andhra pradesh which still exists.I think new telangana state should be formed with karimnagar as the capitol.Gaddar should be the chief minister.Vimalakka should be the deputy CM.Hyderabad is already developed.If karimnagar becomes the capitol it will develop better.

i dont like upper cast people .I think they are robbing all the people in andhra and telangana.Lower cast people account for 70 percent of andhra ,telangana population.I am going to ignite their feelings that they are opressed for one thousand years and i will start burning down houses of the upper cast people.i will say 7 crore lower cast people are with me to kill upper cast people.

I dont like muslims.I have a following of a million people.I want to start killing muslims.

None of the new states in india are formed out of hatred and violence.

Telangana will not form.

You die,kill your self,burn your self still telangana will not form.

Only way it is going to be formed is with the consent of andhra people.

it is like divorce.You cant do what ever you want one sided only.

It is like people want telangana desperately.Nothing wrong with this but you cant tell seemandhras that you are a thief and get the f out of here.

If telangana people keep doing violence and start bringing down andhra people's statues seemandhra people will fight tooth and nail to stop telangana.

What a jerk, and an educated idiot you are. How can you attach a region to ppl like Annamayya, Alluri Sitarama Raju, Gurajada, and Gurram Jashuva. If there was some conspiracy on not allowing Telangana icons' status there, why will there be even 7 of them. Shame on you, your brought up, and your education.There is no difference between Taliban who destroyed the Buddha statues, and TRS, and TJAC goons who attacked the icons of telugu culture.

"Mahakavi Bammera Pothana spent his life at Vontimitta and dedicated his Mahabhagavatham to the deity"

http://www.flonnet.com/fl2425/stories/20080104242511400.htm

2)Rani Rudrama Devi"When she was only fourteen years old, Rani Rudramma Devi succeeded her father. Rudramadevi was married to Veerabhadra, Eastern Chalukyan prince of Nidadavolu"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudrama_Devi

3)Suravaram Pratap Reddy

"His work Andhrula Saanghika Charitra is considered the best social history of the Telugus. It is considered to be one of the most important twentieth century works in Telugu. It was the first Telugu book that to win the Kendra Sahitya Academy Puraskaram"

just keep waiting andhrites ,we will destroy your andhra god's temples as well ,especialy your so called 'visa god' ,we will not accept cultural subjugation....annamacharya now ,annamacharya's masters will be next

From TOI. Hope this opens the eyes of those who blame SAs for EVERYTHING. Let us not blame the forefathers of those SAs who migrated here. Let us blame our own T people who study at tax payer's expense, get free food, free hostels, free books, free education and do nothing to improve their lives. they sell the free books. they get their friends and relatives to stay and eat free..........it is these guys who are looting the jobs of T people.

Leading intellectuals from Seemandhra have called upon the lawmakers in Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema to stop opposing the immediate formation of Telangana with Hyderabad as its capital.

"We appeal to the MPs and MLAs of the Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema regions not to oppose the formation of separate Telangana state. Instead, they should help in the peaceful reorganization of the state," they said.

The signatories to the joint appeal recently sent to the lawmakers are: Pothuri Venkateswara Rao, senior journalist, Tripuraneni Hanuman Chowdary, former IT advisor to the state government, Kakarla Subba Rao, former director of Nims, N Bhaskar Rao, social scientist, and Katti Padma Rao, social activist.

They said that the inclusion of Telangana to create Andhra Pradesh in 1956 had been against the wishes of the majority of leaders from the region. "The separation between the Telangana and the Seemandhra areas since 1800 CE had created unbridgeable gulf between social, educational economic milieu and political and cultural consciousness of the two regions. The last five-and-a-half decades of togetherness had failed to bring about equitable development in different regions and harmonize the relations between the peoples,'' they said.

The presence of about 30 lakh people from Coastal and Rayalaseema in Hyderabad for the last 56 years should not be a factor in deciding the future of the state. They will continue to remain an integral part of the Hyderabad the same way as the Maratha, Kannadiga, Gujarati and Punjabi people. Claiming special rights by these or any other group is irrational and unjustified.

"The apprehensions of these people have to be removed by discussions (with the leaders of Telangana and Central government). The need of the hour is the emotional oneness, which is severely lacking, rather than an enforced administrative and political togetherness of the regions as a single integrated state," they added.

There are no 'Andhra' gods. Have you heard of Vemulawada, Basara, Vargal, Alampur.

If you think Pochamma, Mysamma are 'Telangana' deities you are mistaken. They exist all over AP and TN and Karnataka with different names. People used to visit these dieties to get relief from Measles and Small Pox.

Unless ofcourse you want to do in India what the Pakis are doing to Hindu Temples in Pakiland.

Sorry Andhra Folks, International media is Not in Your Hands and You cant bribe it like u do to National media.

Though our Andhra media devoted Front pages about the Destruction of Your Andhra Idols, everyone comfortably forgot about Your 1 lakh "Telugu" Brothers taken in to police custody, but BBC didnt even notice about statues.

<<from bbcIndia: Arrests before Telangana 'million-man' rally

Protesters were prevented from gathering in large numbersContinue reading the main storyRelated Stories

Indian strikers demand new stateIndia state report lists optionsIndia opens Pandora's boxAbout 50,000 people have defied an unofficial curfew in the Telangana region of south India's Andhra Pradesh state to rally for a separate state.

Police say that 100,000 people have been detained - many in public auditoriums and stadiums - to prevent them attending the rally in Hyderabad.

Those held include the head of the Telangana Joint Action Committee and about 50 members of the state assembly.

The protesters dubbed their gathering as a "million-man" rally.

But in the event few demonstrators were allowed by the authorities to congregate.

Widespread protestsDeep divisions have emerged over the Telangana issue over the past 15 months.

In December 2009, India's Congress Party-led government promised that the new state would be formed, but later said more talks were needed.

The announcement prompted widespread protests in the region.

Continue reading the main storyPROPOSED TELANGANA STATE

Population of 35 millionComprises 10 districts of Andhra Pradesh, including city of HyderabadLandlocked, predominantly agricultural areaOne of the most under-developed regions in IndiaFifty-year campaign for separate statusMore than 400 people died in 1969 crackdownIn the latest disturbances on Thursday, police used tear gas and batons to disperse protesting students at Osmania University in Hyderabad.

In addition, barricades and police road blocks were set up all over Telangana to prevent people from attending the "million-man rally".

The BBC's Omer Farooq in the city says that there is a tense atmosphere there and elsewhere across Telangana with schools, shops and businesses closed down.

Our correspondent says that the police security operation made it practically impossible for protesters inside and outside Hyderabad to attend the rally - all train and most bus services in Telangana were suspended.

Among those detained was Kodanda Ram, head of the Telangana Joint Action Committee, along with about 50 members of the Andhra Pradesh state assembly who support separate statehood.

The BBC's Soutik Biswas in Delhi says that the latest protests could once again re-ignite the Telangana issue and provoke further mass demonstrations.

The final decision on a new state lies with the Indian parliament. But the state assembly must also pass a resolution approving its creation.

Opponents of the move are unhappy that Hyderabad, home to many major information technology and pharmaceutical companies, could become Telangana's new cap

I will use Sujai's favorite example of a boy forcing a girl to be in relationship. This is similar to that. A boy proposes a girl. Girl rejects, the boy commits suicide. On one hand you feel really bad for the boy. But on the other hand, do you say the girl killed the boy? Is she really responsible for his death? Shouldn't the boy have the courage to face the problems in life and deal with them bravely?

That's a right way of putting it Hyderabadi.

It is exactly this attitude of sheer callousness to life, history, culture and property which makes Hyderabadis say they want a separate state.

If you look at the portraits of the figures in the parliament how many will be from South India or AP? So should Telanganas attack the parliament building?

Sujai et all seem to have no idea of what democracy means. If we go on slicing we will find that every region/section can say they are discriminated. Big deal.

The only way out is a separate state of Hyderabad in Pondicherry or New Delhi style. I have noticed the hardening of stand from the SA guys which is a good sign for the formation of the state of Hyderabad.

I have been wondering why the muslims didn't seem too keen on Option 4 or even a separate Hyd state with assembly.

Now an unsuspecting fellow revealed their fear.......

If a separate hyd state is formed, they will no longer be a minority in that state, and the implications of that are well known.

That is why they want a T-seema state, where they will continue to be significant, but still a minority.

Its a lot premature to reach that conclusion POK.

The issue is that they do not want to bring things to the street. They have always been stating that without them "no conclusions" should be reached. Even if a separate HYD is formed they will still not be a majority and note that there are pockets they can win with a HUGE majority but they are not spread out enough to get the "majority" of seats in the future assembly of the state of Hyderabad. They will be kingmaker always but never King which is anyway what they will love - in fact the first state of its kind.

They are just quiet because they don't want a street fight and they know its difficult to control their cadres. There's a lot of talk within themselves and a lot of desire for a separate state of Hyderabad. But the leadership will remain quiet and seeks to only speak it behind doors with Chidambaram et all. And one should not forget that Owaisi has a very good rapport with Madam Sonia.

Anyway Andhras and UT Nuts lost on streets of Hyderabad, the only place left for them to make their delusional rants is Blogosphere.

So telangana people the best u can do is to ignore these fools on the blog, they will be ready to rant about anything,these guys are ready to eat your vomit if u throw up on the bloge, they best u can do is to ignore these fools.

Kodand Ram is a disgrace to humanity. The scoundrel is always crying about cong TDP MLAs MPs not resigning but he himself did not resign yet, keeps getting united AP salary and says police committed these acts. He is out of mind and needs to get admitted in mental asylum for making this argument.

The inhuman idiots do not realize why this 'movement' disappeared in 1980s and 1990s and where were suicides and 'self-respect'? TRS and T-JAC are responsible for all Telangana suicides, deaths, arrests, destruction, attacks. They are anti-national, undemocratic and uncivilized forces that need to be exterminated.

With so many barricades and barbed wires the city was in un-official curfew. Trains were canceled and people were detained. People have every right to assemble and express their feelings in democracy. Even this basic right was denied. Is it democracy or emergency. Why you did not condemn those un democratic ways. There should be safety valve. What happens if the pressure increases in a pressure cooker. It was a surprise to see on TV, so many people reaching the venue. Their will, courage and spirit must be appreciated. They are not selfish. Most of them are not violent. They came to express their wish. Their courage and heroism is really great.

Hopefully the state will act now or will it wait for an other 2 or 3 incidents?I doubt state will ever act in response to violence.If I am not wrong Darjeeling, Manipur etc movement employed different techniques yet center did not do much.More such acts farther division of AP will be. Of course TRS and its henchmen like Sujai are very much aware that violence means postponing any decision. And that is they want for minting money in different ways.Unfortunately, many others are being fooled by fellow T-vaadis.

What hyderabad are you referring to? king koti? xroads? life is normal in whole city especially in cybarabad, but you with your pea nut brain think other way..seems like you lost in frustration suffering with Hypovolemia!

the only place left for them to make their delusional rants is Blogosphere.

where did you get your education idiot? did you get that for free? i think you grown up eating free meals, free education etc that's why you hate other people as you living your pathetic life like a beggar! this is you who's ranting in this blog almost all others are doing meaning full debates...

So telangana people the best u can do is to ignore these fools on the blog, they will be ready to rant about anything

i don't pity your pathetic life, i wonder why assholes like you don't die in suicides its always innocents like ishan reddy! before you suggesting your telangana people to ignore others check how many of your brothers ignored you.

these guys are ready to eat your vomit if u throw up on the bloge, they best u can do is to ignore these fools.

hahaha seems like your free education didn't make you wise enough to know how many of your brothers and sisters eating vommits around the world including huge numbers of uppara community from Mahboobnagar who settled in andhra stole all the municipality jobs.

you are one erroneous creature born in this world by mistake and proving that you fit for nothing...please die soon by pelting stones at hi-tech city and get shot like a mad dog as you are not man enough to kill your self other wise you would be a big problem for your wife and kids if at all you could produce some!

///If a separate hyd state is formed, they will no longer be a minority in that state, and the implications of that are well known.That is why they want a T-seema state, where they will continue to be significant, but still a minority.///

You people seem to have taken leave of your senses....

If the Muslims are more than 50% of the population of Hyderabad,and approximately 25-30%,in Telangana,their strength will grow,in the new state....

Infact they are going to be a very significant minority,the first ever model on those lines,and can demand their share of development from their leaders.Their strength dilutes in the UAP,since not many Muslims have ever settled down there....:-)

////Even if a separate HYD is formed they will still not be a majority and note that there are pockets they can win with a HUGE majority but they are not spread out enough to get the "majority" of seats in the future assembly of the state of Hyderabad. They will be kingmaker always but never King which is anyway what they will love - in fact the first state of its kind.////

A few days ago,you tried explaining another commenter Karim,that the Muslims should support UT status to Hyderabad,since they would become Kings,in place of king makers,in the new state of Hyderabad,when it forms,since the MIM has a strong hold in power corridors in Hyderabad....

[P.S:By the way,if people weren't allowed to enter Hyd,then who were all the people who assembled on Tank bund????My bad,they are Hyderabadis....Such traitors they alllllllllll are.So much for your theory of Hyderabidis wanting a UT]

ap was formed in 1956 and, apart from sri sri and gurram jashua , all thoe others had DIED befor that.moreover, when people like annamayya, tikkana and brahma naidu existed at a time when the concepts of telangana and andhra did not even existso, can u please tell me in what way they are symbols of opressors.in facyt, ysr statue is a symbol of opressor.dare to damage it?if so please do it at the earliest

I am from Madras,Tamilnaadu.I am a proud Indian.I support Telengana.It is unfortunate that Andhra people are behaving as dictators treating telengana people as second class citizens.Andhra people are threatening GOI as well.

Wishing Telengana all the best.Hoping Andhra will not provoke Telengana and the goal is attained without violence and illwill.Also there should be conciliation and co-operation with Andhra after the goal is achieved.And there should be no discrimination against the middleclass from Andhra in the new state.

What is the report from ground?I thought you were on sickbed after seeing the violence.Contrary to my expectations you are turning out to be Lady Jayashankar. (Like Lady Amintabh your ramulamma) With conspiracy theories on Hyderabadis.

annamayya was the greatest devotee of Lord Venkateswara and damaging his statue is the same as damaging the almighty's statue.mind you MOFO'S like sujai and varun, srivaaru is not someone who is going to forgive and forget people so easily.

Great point. They talk of armed struggle against Nizam who destroyed the region, changed the names and perpetuated poverty and the andhra people are termed as oppressors. How can Sri Krishnadevaraya, Annamayya, devotional poets be symbols of oppression? even those who don't believe in god cannot come to this conclusion with a sane mind.

"These statues are not pieces of antiquity. They were made 25 years ago and they have no archaeological value"

http://www.hindu.com/2011/03/13/stories/2011031363840600.htm

"They feel it is difficult to recreate the same magic since the services of renowned sculptors, literary giants and artists were requisitioned to execute the project in a record time of 30 days in 1986."

"some of the statues, for instance like poets Nannayya and Tikkanna, were created out of sheer visualisation based on literary works. The sketches of Nannayya were based on the description given by poet Viswanatha Satyanarayana in one of his works. Similarly Thikkanna's statue took shape after scholars culled through the works of his disciples describing his appearance"

No point in resurrecting the statues, for they won't survive. Atleast not before the question of bifurcation is resolved.

Meanwhile, what do you mean by de-Andhraization?

"This revolution involves de-Andhraization of Telangana"

1)Potana

"Mahakavi Bammera Pothana spent his life at Vontimitta and dedicated his Mahabhagavatham to the deity"

http://www.flonnet.com/fl2425/stories/20080104242511400.htm

2)Rani Rudrama Devi

"When she was only fourteen years old, Rani Rudramma Devi succeeded her father. Rudramadevi was married to Veerabhadra, Eastern Chalukyan prince of Nidadavolu"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudrama_Devi

"As Rudramma Devi's husband Veerabhadra was from Eastern Chalukya family of Kashyapa gotra, subsequently Kakatiya rulers mentioned themselves as Kshatriyas of Kashyapa Gotra in their inscriptions"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakatiya_dynasty

3)Suravaram Pratap Reddy

"His work Andhrula Saanghika Charitra is considered the best social history of the Telugus. It is considered to be one of the most important twentieth century works in Telugu. It was the first Telugu book that to win the Kendra Sahitya Academy Puraskaram"

i sincerely wish that some sort of telugu-kannada riots take place in bangalore on the lines of cauvery riots of early 90's as a reult of which your house is burnt down and ur family is butchered before your eyes..then ill say "yes, we are proud of what happened’.

and u frequently use the words "we/our". till now i used to think hyd belongs to kcr.on march 10th i thought it belonged to kodandaram.now you are saying "we"by any chance did kodandaram give you a poower of attorney over hyd????

hyd is, was and will be a city of India.

after seeing morons like u, i have decieded that just as tumour needs to be thrown of body to save other parts, guys like u shd be a given not a seperate state but a seperate nation with the clause that "step out of it and ur legs would be broken"

Kartik,you are being a stupid here.Why should you topple statues of great people?you came to tankbund well prepared with crowbars.what happened on tankbund is an act of cowardice and a pompous show of rowdism.May god fry all those involved and are supporting this incident die in hell.

"You cannot have a revolution without removing the statues of your oppressors."

SHOW ME ONE OPRESSOR WHOSE STATUE IS THERE ON TANKBUND.THOSE STATUES BELONG TO SOCIAL REFORMERS,POETS AND COMMUNISTS.JUST BECAUSE BRITISHERS WERE OPPRESSORS WILL YOU DEMOLISH RONLAD ROSS CENTER IN SECUNDERABAD

BLOODY BASTARDS YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE AND COMMON SENSE AND THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH YOU.

BHARTUHARI SUBHASHITANI HAS AN APPROPRIATE VERSE FOR YOU"YOU CAN REMOVE A JEWEL FROM A CROCODILE'S MOUTH,YOU CAN REMOVE A GEM FROM A SNAKE'S HOOD BUT YOU CAN NEVER CONVINCE A FOOLISH IDIOTIC BASTARD"

Razzakars and Nizam's army raped women in Telangana. How can you condone them while calling Seemandhra rapists.Was there any attempt to bring the Nizam to justice ? Instead he was made the Rajpramukh and you guys eulogize him and lick his sore feet and hail him as the saviour and a great ruler.Did you barge into King Koti palace and vent your anger?

Well there a photos of Nizam and Pandith Nehru rubbing their Asses toghether, So its actually Our Great Indian Nation that endorses the rape of Indian women,Telangana peasents could have taken Action against Nizam they Did take action but they were crushed by your beloved Indian Army

@karthik,im not the one to curse you, by breaking the statue of annamacharya who is the greatest devotee of lord Venkateswara, u guys urselves have invoked the curses of the almighty.chandrababu naidu demol;ished veyyi kaalla mandapam in tirupati, hes political career is in doldrums now.ysr ate tirumala tirupati devasthanams money, h died a dogs death.same thing is going to happen to you people.as mR.govinda had said in one of the threads, srivaru is not someonelike kiran reddy or rosayya to keep silent.and to alll the idiots who are comparing the demolition to that of breaking lenin's statue in russa and saddam's in iraq lemme say u fools that the people whose statues u attacked were NOT kings(except rayalavaaru), not politicians, nor were they dictators.they were just people who did something for the society.i pity the people who, inspite of not even being capable of doing anything posible, associate "pranteeyavaadam" to achievers.

Gurram Jashuva in his great work గబ్బిలం is sharply critical of the society which allows a bat inside a temple but not a human being. His grand daughter is one of the thousands of Andhra leaders supporting Telangana.

"How will destruction of poets statues compensate for loss of lives?"

Are you asking us to kill Andhra people in retaliation? We will not do so.

When will the assembly of your state pass a resolution mourning our children?

"i sincerely wish that some sort of telugu-kannada riots take place in bangalore on the lines of cauvery riots of early 90's as a reult of which your house is burnt down and ur family is butchered before your eyes"

Well,looks like even you wouldn't trust the Andhra reports any more.Great inference from great brain. Aha! :-)

if it had not been for your and sera's continuous taunts....I care a .....

I guess a thank you,from me,would be nice,but then again,I don't really believe in niceties,to people who don't return it....You people do not deserve any nicities, I never tried one. You need hard slaps to wake you up from your madness.

My my....I thought you and sera would go underground,and resurface with a new id,after watching it's success....You are real crazy. Just becoz you had registered ID does not make you KNOWN. You are as anonymous as we are.You are no different from the goons who destroyed the statues. You dod not have guts to add your address or photo on the net.

Hope you'll didn't miss it...and the new song that Moilly sings after the March 10th movement..... These days I stopped caring about Delhi. Bcoz neither center nor congress have guts to implement what they think.We have a PM and his lady boss who subvert all democratic systems. There is no scantity for what they do.They continue to fool you people and you continue to believe in them.

Madamjee. I seriously don't know what to tell you. You are the perfect example of someone who sees illusions and is encouraged by chimeras.

Moilly sings when no longer the stage belongs to him and you want to quote that. The person who is now occupying the stage is Azad and that happened around 3rd. And you want to hear to Moily's statements after 10th who has no weight now.

Maybe you should keep reading the conspiracy theories on the net and keep being happy.

@jai,im not givinf dhamkisim saying its disaster is going to reaCH U SOON.NO DOUBT IN IT.

chandrababu naidu demolished veyyi kaalla mandapam in tirupati, hes political career is in doldrums now.ysr ate tirumala tirupati devasthanams money, he died a dogs death.lord Venkateswara MIGHT have forgiven u for all the violence u did had u not touched the statue of his greatest devotee.but u did.now u r going to face his fury.no doubt in it.

pity that people who cannot distinguish the statue a poet from a ruler are talking about abhimaanam and durabhimanam

1.you said that "hyd is our capital and your statues are no loneger welcome here"wat if tommorow, karnataka rakshana vedike, says to your family "bangalore is our capital.YOU are no longer welcome here"

2.if u like telangana so much, y did u keep ur firm in blore and not in hyd?

3.u allow american mcdonals and dominos, karachi bakery(named after the city of a country whose govt killed lakhs of Indias), british library but not andhra poets statues.is it right on ur part?

1.you said that "hyd is our capital and your statues are no loneger welcome here"wat if tommorow, karnataka rakshana vedike, says to your family "bangalore is our capital.YOU are no longer welcome here"

I said: Your statues are not welcome here anymore. I did not say: “YOU are no longer welcome here”.

There’s a big difference. If Telugus impose their statues onto Kannadigas in Bangalore, and if Kannadigas protest against them asking for their removal, I would support these protesting Kannadigas. I wouldn’t want Telugu statues to be ‘imposed’ onto Kannadigas.

The key element here is ‘impose’.

I would be happy if Kannadigas willingly embrace Telugu statues and install them in their city, but I would not impose it onto them.

2.if u like telangana so much, y did u keep ur firm in blore and not in hyd?

Stupid question! I can love Whales and fight for their survival – that does not mean I have to live in the ocean.

3.u allow american mcdonals and dominos, karachi bakery(named after the city of a country whose govt killed lakhs of Indias), british library but not andhra poets statues.is it right on ur part?

You are free to change McDonalds’ name or Karachi Bakery’s name. ORYou can embrace something out of your free will.

I believe we embraced them out of our free will - nobody imposed them onto us.

But if Americans were to impose McDonalds or Pakistanis were to impose their Karachi bakeries onto Indians by subjugating them, then I would support Indians in their protest against these icons.

I can clearly see that you do not have necessary mental faculties (nor writing skills) to comprehend the difference between what is ‘embracing’ out of one’s free will, and what is ‘imposed’ against one’s will.

Telanganas did not agree to the statues right from the time they were installed on the Tank Bund. Those statues were installed against our will. They were imposed onto us.

embracing’ out of one’s free will, and what is ‘imposed’ against one’s will.

i see.these statues were there since 25 yrs.out of them, did anyone speak against them till 2009???

(though he is irrelevant now, ur kcr was very much in tdp whn ntr set up thos statues)

and talking about free will, ur great "mental" faculties shd say how u could "embrace with so much love" cultures of various non-andhra socities more than ours?is it that u found pizza burgers more tastier than dishes of coastal andhra?

@sujaithe same arguemenet can be given by rakshana vedike that non kannadigas came to karnataka by THEIR free will and not ours.we never "welcomed them with open hands and hearts". we never "embraced" them. so they shd be kicked out.

"Telanganas did not agree to the statues right from the time they were installed on the Tank Bund. Those statues were installed against our will. They were imposed onto us".

That is exactly the problem. Telanganas had no right to 'disagree' to put the statues. Hyderabad is not anyone's personal property. It belongs to all people of the state. The Telanganas had every right to expect and in its absence demand the installation of statues of their own stalwarts.Who are you say 'against our will'? Sujai, that is the crux of the problem with you. You are arrogating to yourself ownership of something that is not only yours. You should have demanded in all forums for statues of people that you feel should be there. since it was a govt decision the T MLAs should have done it. Why did they keep quiet?

indrapuri which is a traditional hindu name was changed as "nizam"abad, the man who carried out the murders of thousands of my telangana brothers and sisters.and u sujai, never think that name was "forced " on u.huh.what a great person you are

///Moilly sings when no longer the stage belongs to him and you want to quote that.////

And,his new song was exactly what I meant to point out,AFTER he stopped being a prime player.....

The Congress has appointed the shrewd Nabi Azad,in place of the dud Moily,and I already acknowledged that,the first noticeable positive step,was the behaviour of the cops on March 10th,who were saner and cooperative,compared to what I have heard or seen,earlier....

These guys call Nehru as their "Tallest leader" and have statues of Gandhi and Ambedkar all around Telangana. Gandhi was dead well before Telangana was liberated. I doubt if Gandhi ever visited Hyderabad during his life time.They respect those leaders who did nothing for them while they were suffering under Nizam.But they have objections to leaders who did nothing for or against Telangana.

Their leaders do not even know copying others. After NTR installed these statues MCR became CM for second time. But he did not care to install statues of T legends. Nor PV, only PM from AP tried to give such respect to T legends.

None of the 3 CMs from T tried to declare Sept 17 official day. But they demand why others did not do it.

I do not want to belie your optimism. Some muslim leader in congress said congress party is open to smaller states just before SKC report. He did not utter as single word T after SKC report.Moily will eat his words very soon.

Telanganas did not agree to the statues right from the time they were installed on the Tank Bund. Those statues were installed against our will. They were imposed onto us.

just because the merger is conditional people of andhra doesn't need consensus on even installing statues, its justifies if you demand some statues from your side but don't try to dectate what are welcome what not, its funny even after 6 decades we are concidered as aliens in our own state.

what do you mean by Impose? those statues are not built front of you home nor any one forced you to do pooja every morning.

A state is formed under linguistic lines keeping aside you like it or dislike your region is officially merged with Andhra and trasformed into Andhra Pradesh for more than 6 decades now. its ironic that you reject a song pricing the states official language which is we all speak..whats your problem with Ma Telugu talli song? where the song is all about Telugu and the names of the people mentioned in the song are icons of Telugu Culture regardless of their region, there are two names specified in the song who are from Telangana region but i don't think their names or specified on regional grounds, if that is the case you wouldn't see Tyagayya who is from tamilnadu and Srikrishna Devaraya from Karnataka...is that something you don't identify your self as a Telugu?

its understandable if you break statues of Kasu Brahmanandha reddy or any other politicians whos from Andhra but limiting these cultural icons to a perticuler region is rediculous and people who justifies that or nothing less of a people who demolished Babri Masjid, who welcomed Islam to India? are we going to demolish all masjids because they are Impossed on us?

I believe, you do it all with a purpose to create hate and gulf between two regions so that it appears like living together is impossible! but i don't think that will work.

>>>>You people do not deserve any nicities, I never tried one. You need hard slaps to wake you up from your madness.<<<<>>>>You are real crazy. Just becoz you had registered ID does not make you KNOWN. You are as anonymous as we are.You are no different from the goons who destroyed the statues. You dod not have guts to add your address or photo on the net.<<<<<

An anonymous commenter who doesn't have the guts to even come out with his own name,calling us fools and idiots,for not providing our addresses and photos.....

You people are so predictable....

Online blasphemy....How are you better than all those,pieces of _____,who write all sorts of trash to while away their extra hours,against Telangana.....

And,thanks,I am more Indian than you think I am....I don't hide and attack,I don't pass sexist comments,I don't let someone walk over my self respect and I am decent enough to first contribute towards the development of my people,in different ways AND fight for our rights....

Now,back to you...What is your name and address,and where is your photograph????What is your contribution to the United AP????

We could compare notes,and THEN decide....Are you ready for that???

>>>>We have a PM and his lady boss who subvert all democratic systems. There is no scantity for what they do.<<<<

Doesn't look like you have a choice there.You have to listen up when the boss,(lady or otherwise)tells you to....;-)

>>>>>They continue to fool you people and you continue to believe in them.<<<<<<

And,you think you are more intelligent and sensible than,all the people in the entire region,state and country???

It has already been discussed,that formation of Telangana is a political decision,and making it an emotional issue now,will only make things worse and separation bitter.....

These are the kind of people that destroyed Babri Masjid. Those morons were against muslim minorities and these morons are against Andhra minorities.This Sujai thinks he is very balanced. But he is in no way different from the fundamentatlist BJP folks who destroyed Babri Masjid or killed Muslims in Gujrat.

It is internet trash bags,who disturb and spoil an educated and decent forum,with their absurd theories and make it an internet t*******.

You continue in your illusions. I am not writing any conspiracy theories or otherwise.You see absurd theories in mots practical stuff? BTW, I did not make it famous public toilet. Your revered guru Sujai opened it for public s****.

BTW, I have already said you fools are only educated not learned. Just text books guys. All that you know is quoting some authors (many of them are big assholes with crazy opinions).

Interesting that Sujai has disabled comments on one of his latest posts.

Is he "imposing" ;-)

Look at it like this.

Once Telangana state is formed they will want to "impose" their leaders and culture and statues on Hyderabadis.

The Hyderabadis will never "embrace" them and will demolish those statues.

This is how the future will look like unless of course a separate state of Hyderabad is given when we will put up the statues we want - like of the old Nizam, the Ghazal singers, the Hindi and Urdu literary luminaries and Telugu poets and luminaries.

Like you Sujai think they "imposed" we are afraid that you will "impose" statues of some heroes whom Hyderabadis don't "embrace"

It's better those destructed statues are replaced with those luminaries of Telangana that the T-vadis want. Re-installing those statues after being destroyed would be a greater disgrace to those personalities. They better be installed at a place where they would not be destroyed again.

Ideally, we don't want any statues on Tank Bund Road. This statue business has been pushed too far. Andhras are welcome to take the remainaing statues and keep them in their new capital.

But since CM of AP is taking it as a challenge to re-install them, T-vaadis are pushing for their statues.

This is the right time for 'separate-Hyd-vaadis' to come out in the open and express what they want. Otherwise we will be forced to believe that no such people exist, and that such a movement for separate-Hyd is figment of imagination of few demented souls.

Right now, there are many Hyderabad-specific forums and they all support Telangana including representations from Old city (that's why MIM has started to change their stance). They take active participation in the movement and express their opinions to influence them.

Most of the people on Tank Bund from 10th March were people from Hyderabad - doctors, lawyers, IAS officers, veterans, have all come in thousands representing Hyderabad.

To be honest, we strongly believe that no such 'separate-Hyd' movement exists. We believe that all those who ask for such a thing are actually Seemandhras living outside Hyderabad. We believe that even Sera is NOT living in Hyderabad. We would like to see at least one procession or protest in Hyderabad which seeks 'separate-Hyd' status for us to beleive that such an opinion exists in Hyderabad.

But since CM of AP is taking it as a challenge to re-install them, T-vaadis are pushing for their statues.

Push for no statues then. Why are you giving the second as an excuse. No statues is a good enough stand. Why ask for your statues or any statues. Have a stand. Don't give flimsy idiotic excuses.

We would like to see at least one procession or protest in Hyderabad which seeks 'separate-Hyd' status for us to beleive that such an opinion exists in Hyderabad.

It will happen if we are assured that we will not be violently mauled up. The responsibility of creating that atmosphere and giving us that confidence lies with people who are violent or the state. The state has anyway failed us multiple number of times and we have seen that.

Who will assure us of our life and property. We have had threats for not giving donations. You think we can live after such demonstrations. The statues issue has seen how far the violence can go.

So our only choice is to lobby at Delhi or with the leaders we know like MIM and SA politicians and National level politicians and bureaucrats and journalists.

The only solution is a referendum Goa Opinion Poll style. Why are you afraid of that? Have that and let us respect those results. I am sure you have heard of the "silent majority" concept.

MIM has started to change their stance

MIM still wants United AP first and Rayala Telangana next and then is ok with a Telangana as a last resort. Where do you get your news from? I am sure you are not as schizophrenic as Madamjee ;-)

Otherwise we will be forced to believe that no such people exist,

Like there are many SA guys who believe that there are Telangana guys who are for United AP. Believe what you want. That does not change the truth.

And MOST of the people on Tank Bund were NOT Hyderabadis. They were just Telanganas (some of whom are Hyderabadis like some of SAs are Hyderabadis too).

I remember many half-witted guys claiming support of Hyderabad musilms for separate Telangana. They even claimed even that MIM is NOT AGAINTS separate state.Hope these dumps are not DEAF and heard what Akbaruddin Owaisi said in Assembly.

>>>>>Most of the people on Tank Bund from 10th March were people from Hyderabad - doctors, lawyers, IAS officers, veterans, have all come in thousands representing Hyderabad.<<<<

You hit the nail on the head....

All the people,and I mean more than 90% of the people on Tank Bund,were Hyderabadis.....It was difficult even for us,to reach Tank Bund,that day.It would have been difficult,if not impossible for someone say from Warangal,Mahbubnagar or Nalgonda to get anywhere near the venue,without knowing the smaller lanes and bylanes of the city....

All the people,and I mean more than 90% of the people on Tank Bund,were Hyderabadis.....

Looks like you did not read what I wrote earlier.

And MOST of the people on Tank Bund were NOT Hyderabadis. They were just Telanganas (some of whom are Hyderabadis like some of SAs are Hyderabadis too).

And for your other question that you want to see a procession of separate Hyderabdis

It will happen if we are assured that we will not be violently mauled up. The responsibility of creating that atmosphere and giving us that confidence lies with people who are violent or the state. The state has anyway failed us multiple number of times and we have seen that.

Who will assure us of our life and property. We have had threats for not giving donations only. You think we can live after such demonstrations. The statues issue has shown us how far the violence can go.

So our only choice is to lobby at Delhi or with the leaders we know like MIM and SA politicians and National level politicians and bureaucrats and journalists.

The only solution is a referendum Goa Opinion Poll style. Why are you afraid of that? Have that and let us respect those results. I am sure you have heard of the "silent majority" concept.

So how do you know that people who were there on Tank Bund that day are NOT Hyderabadis?

1. I said "MOST". Hope you get the meaning of that.

2. And like I clarified there are Telanganas who were Hyderabadis and SAs who are Hyderabadis.

3. And for Madamjee's The editor of Siasat,Jawed Ali Khan Saab,is not a Hyderabadi???He is and so is Sania Mirza. Was she at the March? Stop being Schizrophenic and stop giving idiotic examples.

I repeat myself with rephrase so that you may understand better. Most of them were Telanganas who are Hyderabadis (Chukka Ramaiah one example) like there are many SAs too who are Hyderabadis and who were not present (Dr. Anji Reddy and his son) at the march. And there were many non-telugu speaking Hyderabadis (like the Shaw family) who were not part of the march.

There were very few (actually miniscule) non-telugu speaking Hyderabadis at the march. And the ones like Siasat editor who were there were there because they have straight-forward political and real estate interests and gains to make which you may not know but we know.

>>>>>The editor of Siasat,Jawed Ali Khan Saab,is not a Hyderabadi??? He is and so is Sania Mirza. Was she at the March? Stop being Schizrophenic and stop giving idiotic examples.<<<<<

Sera,you are comparing the presence of the Editor of Siasat,to Sania Mirza!!!!!!!

Who is giving idiotic examples,now?????

>>>>Most of them were Telanganas who are Hyderabadis,like there are many SAs too who are Hyderabadis and who were not present at the march. And there were many non-telugu speaking Hyderabadis (like the Shaw family) who were not part of the march.<<<<

>>>>>There were very few (actually miniscule) non-telugu speaking Hyderabadis at the march.<<<<

>>>>>Hyderabad is very friendly. Just stay for four years and you become a Hyderabadi ;-)<<<<<

Which one of your statements should be taken into consideration????

The Hyderabadis that you speak of,who were settled before the merger,or the four year old ones....

You are so full of contradictions yourself,and then you call me delusional!!!!!!!

What is the real case here sera???Is it option 4 or option 2 ??Will it be Pondi or is it Goa???

Even a UT status for Hyderabad AND as TG capital is also fine.

The issue here is that Hyderabad needs to be separate - UT with joint capital (which the SAs want), semi-statehood status with assembly Pondicherry or Delhi style (which Owaisi and Danam and Mukesh etc want), UT and only capital of TG (which I am sure many Hyderabadis can be brought round to agree to this). . .

You do not own Hyderabad,just because your family settled here,several generations ago....

By asking the fate of Hyderabad to be left into the hands of a few earlier settlers,is dumb.And,repeating the mistake by,leaving it to be made a UT,because a few nuts think is dumber.....

The educated and rich fools of Hyderabad of the 1950's,could neither save themselves,nor the poor of the land,from being exploited by the SA's....Asking the people of Telangana to repeat the mistake is not just dumb,it's outright selfish....

The MIM has made it's stand clear regarding the UT status,and yet youkeep harping over it....

Excellent, explosive, incisive, sharp, frank, fact based and commendable and demanding speech which is hard hitting on the face of Congress Governments at the Centre and State. This speech explains accurately SITUATION IN TELANGANA TODAY.

Mr Akbaruddin Owaisi reflected the SENTIMENTS OF TELANGANA PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR OF AP ASSEMBLY. No other leader from any other party had spoken these words so far. This speech is worthy of seeing and appreciation by all Telangana protagonists, who only immediately appreciate speeches of Sushma Swaraj but not of Owaisi brothers.

His elder sibling and MP, Mr Asaduddin Owaisi also spoke a few days back in Parliament demanding Hyderabad should be made Capital of Telangana, if Union Government decides to form Telangana State but not joint capital or union territory.

"All the people,and I mean more than 90% of the people on Tank Bund,were Hyderabadis.....It was difficult even for us,to reach Tank Bund,that day.It would have been difficult,if not impossible for someone say from Warangal,Mahbubnagar or Nalgonda to get anywhere near the venue,without knowing the smaller lanes and bylanes of the city...."

You should have been at jubilee bus station in the evening to see how many hyderabadis went to tank bund.

>>>>>Your settler kaloji can voice for Telangana but sera can't...LOL>>>>

I never said,nor believed that the settler's do not have any rights...

The different cosmopolitan communities of Hyderabad,agree that the people of Telangana have suffered great neglect,and injustice,during Nizam and SA rule.....

What they fear the most is the large extent of communal violence that can break out,if they take to streets,with their Telangana brethren.With the line between justice and righteousness becoming,thinner by the day in AP,we are unable to make the promises that they seek,with the Central and State governments playing a power game with Telangana....

They cannot come forward unless promises are made,and the leaders of T,are unable to make them,unless they provide them with their support.......

Our great pedagogue goes scot-free despite talking all kinds of nonsense. But this great sympathizer of T movement cannot afford a paid blog but uses free site.The site owners are not as lenient as Indians. They do not allow crossing certain limits.

looks lik sujai and the like minded have wat is known as "selective intolerance"MNCs, muslims, marvadis, anyone can "settle" in hyd and lead the cul;ture and lifestyle they like but seemandhraites are treated as villians. the nizam who made telangana women play bathukamma naked can have a district named after him, britishers who ruled our country for 200 yrs can have a library named after their nation,but a statue representing a famous seemandhraite poet is demolished.what a great culture telangana has

anyway one thing which im happy about march 10th is that the control wich kcr had on the moment has been replaced by kodandaram.not that it would have any impact on the main decision maker i.e. central govt but a university professor is much better than a drunken maniac pervertbut DORAs children ktr and kavitha still maintain the same arrogant body language and talking style.enthaina dora biddalu kada

Sujai,You were commenting about some of commenters here to be not living in Hyd. Do YOU live in Hyd? Grew up in Hyd? Born in Hyd? Went to school in Hyd? Work in Hyd? Did anyone in your family Web is anonymous so stop making guesses about others. You are just a Neo Nazi. Nazis hated Jews and blamed them for all the problems. You hate people from Andhra and blame them for your problems. If only you had the charisma and opportunity that Hitler had, you will definitely be his successor.You seem to compare everything being done for separate Telengana with Indian Independence movement. I think the right comparison would be with the Nazi == Seperate Telengana Movement.

This weak thin KCR making SA to wet there paints on hourly basis. KCR uses verger language on SA every day. Other than condemn SA cant do much about him. His followers make the life hell to SA fanboys, there leaders dont dare to roam freely in the Telangana even they are state ministers. Still SA cant do much about it other than barking from inside there home.

kcr shd thank his stars that ysr is dead.okka saari gathanni gurti techhuko ys unappudu kcr bathuku ento.anyway, main reason for ysr to die, many people believe is that he ate the wealth of tirumala tirupati devashtanam thereby earning the wrath of lord Venkateswara.on march 10th annamacharyas statuw was demolished who was a great devotee of the same God.as some people had previously pointed out in this form, srivaaru is not someone who would take insults lightly.call it a curse or anything but, as his devotee im saying all the people involved in statue deolition are going to pay a really heavy price.and talking about KCR, do u think using foul language and doing goondasim by obstructing ur rivals with people behind you is something gr8.it doesnt require a MP for that . any bazaar rowdy can do it.let kcr step into SA territory.we will show him wat "wetting the pant is".and yes, kcr abuses seemandhraites but, at the same time takes rowdy mamools from them and telecasts their ads in raj tv

Sujai,I just checked your latest Post. I was calling you a Neo Nazi previously and I am now even more sure of that. You are going one step closer by shutting down the opposing voice. I think you just need that Hitler mustache now or do you already have one?

YSR starts are good, so he dead and escaped from our foot prints on his butt for taking anti T standards.

anyway, main reason for ysr to die, many people believe is that he ate the wealth of tirumala tirupati devashtanam thereby earning the wrath of lord Venkateswara.

stop the crap, there are many who eating the TTD money, and many are still doing good ... ex. $Sheshadri?

on march 10th annamacharyas statuw was demolished who was a great devotee of the same God.as some people had previously pointed out in this form, srivaaru is not someone who would take insults lightly.call it a curse or anything but, as his devotee im saying all the people involved in statue deolition are going to pay a really heavy price.

Just tell me, you dont have gutts to pick our nose hair. Almighty has to come for your rescue? And a king insulted Satya Devudu by rejecting his Prasadam , his kingdom was occupied by enemies. What it tells is, if YSR cheated the god, god will punish his people too.

do u think using foul language and doing goondasim by obstructing ur rivals with people behind you is something gr8.

Something you need to think about it before writing a song using foul language.

let kcr step into SA territoryWe dont need to step into SA territory, you cant resist stepping into TG territory, face the hell from KCR, go back to your territory and cry the hell out saying KCR kicked your butt using four language.

kcr abuses seemandhraites but, at the same time takes rowdy mamools from them and telecasts their ads in raj tvClear example of how seemandhraites fear for KCR, once KCR makes his eyes red, seemandhraites pants became wet and give him rowdy mamools and give ads to raj tv.

stop the crap, there are many who eating the TTD money, and many are still doing good ... ex. $Sheshadri

denikaina time vastundi.just keep watching dude how everyone is going to be affected.

if YSR cheated the god, god will punish his people too. did i every say people of telangana will be punished???i said those who are involved in the demolotion would have to face the wrath.shows how insecure you are.just keep watching dude how Lord Venkateswara is going to unleash his wrath

Just tell me, you dont have gutts to pick our nose hair. Almighty has to come for your rescuethen why are u crying since the alst 50 yrs that seemandhraites looted us and all nonsense???y do u complain that police are breaking ur students butts when you urself are saying that we couldnt even prick ur nose hair?just today in paper kodandaram was saying that a singer was arrested in demolition case and he and his wife were beaten up severely.

just keep watching dude how Lord Venkateswara is going to unleash his wrath

Like I said before, you cant pick our nose hair too, you are helpless, and you wish god steps down for your rescue.

Even if God do that, that will be limited to those who touched the statue, but not the entire TG people. I still dont understand what Allah doing when one of his temple destroyed by Advani. Looks like he lived enough and may die naturally.

తెలంగాణా ప్రజలను తిట్టలనుకున్నప్పుడు కెసిఆర్ ను సీమండ్రులు తిట్టటం నిజం కాదా? What ever it is, he is the right person from TG to deal with people of SA like you. We never elected him with majority because we never liked him, but past one year, you proved us wrong and you proved KCR is the right guy to deal with you. TG people realized this, thats why he can shake the state just with 10 MLAs.

not sure if you know this.A Couple of days back in Srikakulam, locals there organized a big procession shouting Jai Telangana slogans and called "Chakrapani" as cheif guest.So,i dont think KCR will get the same treat as Jagan,CBN ,Kiran Kumar reddy got in Telangana.

So,pls keep updated.Telangana is gaining support not only from SA but also in Delhi.Thanks to ABVP for taking this up and organizing a big rally asking the central govt to introduce the bill in Parliament.

@mastiI still dont understand what Allah doing when one of his temple destroyed by Advani. Looks like he lived enough and may die naturally.

punishment need not just be death.bjp lost in 2009 elections when everyone expected it to win and thought that advani will become pmthe lother people invovled in babri masjid demolition uma bharati and kalyan singh now have their political carer in doldrums.and regarding pant wetting, an ordinary midle class peace loving citizen is afraid of a rowdy.does it make the latter a great person or an achiever????

sorry, we dont take law kinto our hands like u people and go about attacking people.we expect the law to take its own course and in the past few days, we believe police have acted "more than required" in taking action on demolition accused people.

MNCs, muslims, marvadis, anyone can "settle" in hyd and lead the cul;ture and lifestyle they like but seemandhraites are treated as villians.

You are wrong there. They will not agree with anyone who says that Hyderabad and Telangana are different. That's all. You say that and then they will go into one of those naxalite songs.

We have been in this city for around 2 to 4 centuries but just because we want a separate Hyderabad because we believe that Telangana and Hyderabad are different they call us too settlers. So according to them I don't know who is a native.

Looks like a panel of Prof Jayshankar, Sujai, Lavanya, TG, tin tin, KCR will all sit down and brand (as in buffaloes) and put a mark on people's body's which gives them the legitimate right to say they are actual Hyderbadis.

And see the irony - this branding will be done by non-Hyderabadis who come from warangal, karimnagar or Nizambad just because they have brute majority and are violent (you should have seen the goonda way TRS collected donations from business men).

How is that different from when they claim that SAs use their majority. At least SAs never resorted to brutish violence or goonda gardi.

We Hyderabadis want a separate state Delhi or Pondicherry style with a assembly.

Hyderabad will be like Singapore or Hyderabad where everyone is welcome and their lives and properties protected.

Sujai: Great post. As usual, the misguided / brainwashed Seema-Andhra sympathizers will microscopically look at the posts and identify something to argue.

As rightly pointed out - if peaceful protests are not possible it will become violent. I am glad the false pride of crushing the peace march was destroyed on that day.

With lakhs of litres of sewage water flowing into Hussain sagar ( a drinking water lake at one time) and with municipal dumpyard behind the statues. Everyone knows how much respect was there for the statues. The statues were breathing in stink 24/7. Good work on the post and keep more coming. Please get inspired by the Seema-Andhra sympathizers posts to write even more insightful posts.

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