That's different, Kyle Orton was a 4th round pick. He wasn't supposed to play that year.

And Brady Quinn was a QB who was splitting first half reps with Derek Anderson. He didn't know he was supposed to play that year either, and for half of the season, Mangini took it away from him.

In either event, Orton went from being a guy struggling to hit 200 yards for several seasons with the Bears to a yardage machine in Denver. He was a totally different QB. Quinn's situation in KC is 1,000 times better than it was in KC.

He was on an upward swing by the time he left Chicago and continued that pace in Denver.

Brady Quinn has NEVER shown improvement. In his last start he threw for 66 goddamn yards.

This is totally ridiculous.

He has never shown improvement because he has never been given a second opportunity. That 66 yard pass was at the end of his first full starting season as a young QB and was only his 14th start. And this was with a team with a worse starting cast than the Chiefs have EVER seen in 15 years. And by the way, the Browns scored 41 points that day and won. You're not going to throw for a lot of yards when your kick returner takes 2 to the house and your RB runs for 289 yards.

I'm not excited that he's our best option. But it's totally ridiculous to act like his young, inexperienced start with a horrendous Browns offensive supporting cast is somehow the bar we set for Brady Quinn.