I don't see Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) as a stand-alone option. Does that mean I can only order Adaptive M suspension with the variable sport steering as the Dynamic Handling Package?

What if I just want the adaptive M Suspension without the variable sport steering?

I don't think you can separate the two now. It's not a huge deal however, because based on the original $900 price of the M suspension, it's like they're throwing in the sport steering for only $100 more, when it was $300 as a standalone option on the 2012 model.

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Originally Posted by JustinTJ

Navigation system is also a stand alone option for $2,150.

This is $950 less than Tech Package. It does not include:

6NR BMW Apps
610 Head-up Display
6NF Smartphone Integration

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Originally Posted by bmrm396

guy guys guys! hang on a second here. there is a separate item 609 for just the navigation system? does this mean we can get it on its own now without ordering the whole tech package (or with HUD like before)?

thats exactly what it looks like. then u just get the tech package for 3100 if u want all that plus HUD. That would be awesome if tru!

Navigation does not appear to be a "standalone option," in that if you order it as an individual option, you are required to order BMW assist with it, which adds $650 more to the cost. So you're paying $2800 bare minimum if you want to have navigation included (at least that's how I read the option sheet). At that point you might as well pay the extra $300 for the full technology package to get the heads up display, BMW apps, and smartphone integration you wouldn't otherwise get if you just tried to order the navigation/bmw assist combo.

yeh tech pack price isnt bad since it now includes assist and apps. all of that was $3450 in 2012.

I guess; it's good you feel that way. I don't....unenhanced Bluetooth is just fine, thank you. And all I want out of that thing is the navigation. I can't drive and use the computer at the same time, so what good are BMW apps?

For my part, it ticks me off that to get the one thing I want I have to buy over $1000 worth of stuff I don't want.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I buy specific cars for specific purposes. My 3er is my daily driver. It's not my people/stuff hauler. It's not my "go out for a fancy evening car," and it's not my "let's go find some twisty roads car." I just want a high quality car for basic use and that'll make a good hand-me-down when my nephews and nieces are of driving age. The 3er used to be exactly that.

Now I don't know what the hell BMW are trying to make it be. They keep making it bigger, when there's a 5, 6 and 7 for that purpose. And they keep making it more and more difficult to buy a basic car, equipped just as one desires -- not junk you don't want and with the junk you do want. At the rate BMW are going with eliminating the true a la carte ordering capability, I'm going to end up buy a Japanese car instead.

I'm griping here on this forum, but I've also expressed these same thoughts to my dealer, and he's not so keen about it either, especially as he knows he's headed toward losing a customer who's bought five cars from him since 2007 and I have two more children for whom to buy cars in the next 3 years. With the price of the 3er going as it is, they may well end up with Porsches or something Japanese instead.

I was excited about de-coupling Xenons from the premium package, because the ability to have xenon headlights was the ONLY reason I was considering the premium package...but now it appears that satellite radio isn't an a la carte option anymore, and is only available with the premium package...Sirius is a "must have" for me. Bummer.

EDIT: So, I notice under standard options it lists "693 Satellite radio preparation" so that means the dealer could easily just do the necessary software changes to allow me to use Sirius? (I could care less about the year free subscription, I have been paying annually since 2005)

I'm with you on the bummer for satellite radio; if code 693 means I can get satellite radio on my own and all the hardware is pre-installed, then even better. It's far cheaper to activate Sirius on a new car on your own if it's 100% ready. Sirius right now is offering 4 months for free on new activations, and from there every 6 months I negotiate a 6 month subscription for $25.

It could also mean the head unit is ready for satellite radio, but it doesn't include the satellite radio modules that go inside your car to get the signal. My fiancee's car (a Mazda CX9) was like this, she ordered it without satellite radio, but the car was satellite ready, in that all we had to do was install the satellite radio modules and the head unit was able to handle satellite radio like it was an OEM feature. I ordered the modules for roughly $250 and paid $125 for the install. Retail was $300 on the modules, so I would expect to pay $400-$500 so to buy and have installed the Sirius modules on our cars if they don't come with it.

Now I don't know what the hell BMW are trying to make it be. They keep making it bigger, when there's a 5, 6 and 7 for that purpose. And they keep making it more and more difficult to buy a basic car, equipped just as one desires -- not junk you don't want and with the junk you do want. At the rate BMW are going with eliminating the true a la carte ordering capability, I'm going to end up buy a Japanese car instead.

BMW is making their cars bigger because Americans are getting bigger. lol But seriously. I think they made the 1-series for those who still love the small nimble aspects of BMW engineering. Then there's the 2-series that will be coming out there. So, there will be a BMW for everyone.

I guess; it's good you feel that way. I don't....unenhanced Bluetooth is just fine, thank you. And all I want out of that thing is the navigation. I can't drive and use the computer at the same time, so what good are BMW apps?

For my part, it ticks me off that to get the one thing I want I have to buy over $1000 worth of stuff I don't want.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I buy specific cars for specific purposes. My 3er is my daily driver. It's not my people/stuff hauler. It's not my "go out for a fancy evening car," and it's not my "let's go find some twisty roads car." I just want a high quality car for basic use and that'll make a good hand-me-down when my nephews and nieces are of driving age. The 3er used to be exactly that.

Now I don't know what the hell BMW are trying to make it be. They keep making it bigger, when there's a 5, 6 and 7 for that purpose. And they keep making it more and more difficult to buy a basic car, equipped just as one desires -- not junk you don't want and with the junk you do want. At the rate BMW are going with eliminating the true a la carte ordering capability, I'm going to end up buy a Japanese car instead.

I'm griping here on this forum, but I've also expressed these same thoughts to my dealer, and he's not so keen about it either, especially as he knows he's headed toward losing a customer who's bought five cars from him since 2007 and I have two more children for whom to buy cars in the next 3 years. With the price of the 3er going as it is, they may well end up with Porsches or something Japanese instead.

you can get nav by itself now...

and for someone who buys his kids BMWs, i dont understand why youre complaining about small pricing issues.

yeh tech pack price isnt bad since it now includes assist and apps. all of that was $3450 in 2012.

I guess; it's good you feel that way. I don't....unenhanced Bluetooth is just fine, thank you. And all I want out of that thing is the navigation. I can't drive and use the computer at the same time, so what good are BMW apps?

For my part, it ticks me off that to get the one thing I want I have to buy over $1000 worth of stuff I don't want.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I buy specific cars for specific purposes. My 3er is my daily driver. It's not my people/stuff hauler. It's not my &quot;go out for a fancy evening car,&quot; and it's not my &quot;let's go find some twisty roads car.&quot; I just want a high quality car for basic use and that'll make a good hand-me-down when my nephews and nieces are of driving age. The 3er used to be exactly that.

Now I don't know what the hell BMW are trying to make it be. They keep making it bigger, when there's a 5, 6 and 7 for that purpose. And they keep making it more and more difficult to buy a basic car, equipped just as one desires -- not junk you don't want and with the junk you do want. At the rate BMW are going with eliminating the true a la carte ordering capability, I'm going to end up buy a Japanese car instead.

I'm griping here on this forum, but I've also expressed these same thoughts to my dealer, and he's not so keen about it either, especially as he knows he's headed toward losing a customer who's bought five cars from him since 2007 and I have two more children for whom to buy cars in the next 3 years. With the price of the 3er going as it is, they may well end up with Porsches or something Japanese instead.

and for someone who buys his kids BMWs, i dont understand why youre complaining about small pricing issues.

It's not about the price, it's about being forced to have things you didn't want but there's a very simple reason for BMW's decision to reduce the number of configurations in which you can order their cars. It streamlines their production and makes it cheaper for them. I certainly wish each option was available individually but the industry as a whole is headed in the opposite direction, a friend of mine was looking at the new Passat a few weeks ago and I went with him so I can tell you that car has seen its option possibilities massively condensed basically into S, SE and SEL lines with very few other options.

It could also mean the head unit is ready for satellite radio, but it doesn't include the satellite radio modules that go inside your car to get the signal. My fiancee's car (a Mazda CX9) was like this, she ordered it without satellite radio, but the car was satellite ready, in that all we had to do was install the satellite radio modules and the head unit was able to handle satellite radio like it was an OEM feature. I ordered the modules for roughly $250 and paid $125 for the install. Retail was $300 on the modules, so I would expect to pay $400-$500 so to buy and have installed the Sirius modules on our cars if they don't come with it.

When my wife (separated) totalled her '10 128i, she found a 2012 replacement with 350 miles on it for a steal out of state (someone won it a casino and couldn't afford to pay income tax on it) but it was missing Sirius. Before she bought it she gave the VIN to a CA at one of the local BMW dealers and he looked it up and confirmed that it was "Sirius ready" and he told her it would be $400 for them to set it up for her. Not sure if this required any hardware or just a software update. I'll ask her for details tomorrow, but I'm guessing they will be able to do that same thing with the '13 F30s.

I want a 6speed manual 328 M-Sport with xenons/cold weather. Could care less about the tech, gps, harmon kardon etc. So what am i looking at for this according the guide? my PC wont download the PDF's for some reason

When my wife (separated) totalled her '10 128i, she found a 2012 replacement with 350 miles on it for a steal out of state (someone won it a casino and couldn't afford to pay income tax on it) but it was missing Sirius. Before she bought it she gave the VIN to a CA at one of the local BMW dealers and he looked it up and confirmed that it was "Sirius ready" and he told her it would be $400 for them to set it up for her. Not sure if this required any hardware or just a software update. I'll ask her for details tomorrow, but I'm guessing they will be able to do that same thing with the '13 F30s.

The woman's Mazda dealer wanted not just $400 for the install of the Sirius radio on her car, but that was on top of another $300 or so for the parts. The grand total to install at Mazda after the fact was about $700 total. I got the whole thing done for $350.