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We are a young team, but Rooney is not. He gets a boatload of money because he is supposed to be so much better than everyone else. I don't care where you put him, he did not perform. Baines was poor. Give Luke the spot for the next game. We need more pressure in the middle - Saints style.
Look to see some changes for the next game or we are done.

We are a young team, but Rooney is not. He gets a boatload of money because he is supposed to be so much better than everyone else. I don't care where you put him, he did not perform. Baines was poor. Give Luke the spot for the next game. We need more pressure in the middle - Saints style.
Look to see some changes for the next game or we are done.DisplacedFan

Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!bakeyboy

bakeyboy wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

I agree Rooney was poor except for his cross for the goal, which was class, he was played out of position. He may be dropped for Oxlade Chamberlain next game, or Lallana may play out wide, which to me would be the best option. Baines was poor and Shaw ought to start next game, he would have done a lot better against Italy tracking back. Welbeck though I was impressed with, he was better than Gerrard who did nothing. Henderson was ok but no more than that. I find it strange that Clyne was not picked for England, and I still say John Terry should have been on the plane.Hodgson hs some serious thinking to do as we will be up against Suarez next game, and that worries me. Shaw really must play.

[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS![/p][/quote]I agree Rooney was poor except for his cross for the goal, which was class, he was played out of position. He may be dropped for Oxlade Chamberlain next game, or Lallana may play out wide, which to me would be the best option. Baines was poor and Shaw ought to start next game, he would have done a lot better against Italy tracking back. Welbeck though I was impressed with, he was better than Gerrard who did nothing. Henderson was ok but no more than that. I find it strange that Clyne was not picked for England, and I still say John Terry should have been on the plane.Hodgson hs some serious thinking to do as we will be up against Suarez next game, and that worries me. Shaw really must play.montecristosaint

bakeyboy wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

I agree Rooney was poor except for his cross for the goal, which was class, he was played out of position. He may be dropped for Oxlade Chamberlain next game, or Lallana may play out wide, which to me would be the best option. Baines was poor and Shaw ought to start next game, he would have done a lot better against Italy tracking back. Welbeck though I was impressed with, he was better than Gerrard who did nothing. Henderson was ok but no more than that. I find it strange that Clyne was not picked for England, and I still say John Terry should have been on the plane.Hodgson hs some serious thinking to do as we will be up against Suarez next game, and that worries me. Shaw really must play.

[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS![/p][/quote]I agree Rooney was poor except for his cross for the goal, which was class, he was played out of position. He may be dropped for Oxlade Chamberlain next game, or Lallana may play out wide, which to me would be the best option. Baines was poor and Shaw ought to start next game, he would have done a lot better against Italy tracking back. Welbeck though I was impressed with, he was better than Gerrard who did nothing. Henderson was ok but no more than that. I find it strange that Clyne was not picked for England, and I still say John Terry should have been on the plane.Hodgson hs some serious thinking to do as we will be up against Suarez next game, and that worries me. Shaw really must play.montecristosaint

The only way England can progress is if Rooney breaks his leg. Putting sterling in the middle shows Roy clearly thinks he's better than pooney, so why not playing a winger instead of putting shrek out wide. Putting square pegs in round holes is why England have been turgid for 16 years.

The only way England can progress is if Rooney breaks his leg. Putting sterling in the middle shows Roy clearly thinks he's better than pooney, so why not playing a winger instead of putting shrek out wide. Putting square pegs in round holes is why England have been turgid for 16 years.ulrichvangobbel

He is NOT the talisman the media so desparately want him to be. Never achieved anything in an England shirt, never scored at a world cup. Never going to.

Consign him to history along with the rest of the flops from the last world cup.

Most hilarious comment I've seen is about how he wasn't comfortable with the increased work rate required by where he was playing - speaks volumes. He does not deserve the reputation he's got. His workrate was simply not good enough for where he was (and if you argument is that he worked really hard my response is that no matter how hard he may have worked it was not enough). Left massive gaps behind him constantly and simply looked uncomfortable at best when defending.

If we want England to actually ever get anywhere in a competition we need to get away from this sentimentality and attitude of 'THIS time he'll come good'. We don't have time for this. It's the world cup - you turn up ready or not at all. If you don't cut it, you shouldn't be there.

If you want to compare - the media say our talisman is Rooney. Italy's talisman is Pirlo.

I need say nothing more - we need a different talisman.

pointless having Rooney on the pitch.
He is NOT the talisman the media so desparately want him to be. Never achieved anything in an England shirt, never scored at a world cup. Never going to.
Consign him to history along with the rest of the flops from the last world cup.
Most hilarious comment I've seen is about how he wasn't comfortable with the increased work rate required by where he was playing - speaks volumes. He does not deserve the reputation he's got. His workrate was simply not good enough for where he was (and if you argument is that he worked really hard my response is that no matter how hard he may have worked it was not enough). Left massive gaps behind him constantly and simply looked uncomfortable at best when defending.
If we want England to actually ever get anywhere in a competition we need to get away from this sentimentality and attitude of 'THIS time he'll come good'. We don't have time for this. It's the world cup - you turn up ready or not at all. If you don't cut it, you shouldn't be there.
If you want to compare - the media say our talisman is Rooney. Italy's talisman is Pirlo.
I need say nothing more - we need a different talisman.Stroppy_gramps

Lambert and Lallana should start the next game instead of Rooney and Wellbeck. Hodgson has been praised for playing players in their best positions but playing Rooney in the wide left role was a foolish experiment, only tried once before (against Honduras) when presumably it also failed (given our failure to score then).

Cole (!!) should be playing instead of Baines. Shaw is too risky a choice against Uruguay.

Johnson is weak at right back and Hodgson should have given Clyne a chance in pre World Cup games. Johnson's cover is Smalling or Jones, neither of whom are up to much.

Lambert and Lallana should start the next game instead of Rooney and Wellbeck. Hodgson has been praised for playing players in their best positions but playing Rooney in the wide left role was a foolish experiment, only tried once before (against Honduras) when presumably it also failed (given our failure to score then).
Cole (!!) should be playing instead of Baines. Shaw is too risky a choice against Uruguay.
Johnson is weak at right back and Hodgson should have given Clyne a chance in pre World Cup games. Johnson's cover is Smalling or Jones, neither of whom are up to much.saint Compo

bakeyboy wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue!

[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS![/p][/quote]Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue!Babylon51

Hodgson should have taken Rooney off and put Lambert on with 15 minutes to go. Then moved Sterling to the left flank.

We needed to score, so another striker should have joined the match. England had plenty of players able to get the ball in the area, but not many had their shooting boots on.

Hodgson should have taken Rooney off and put Lambert on with 15 minutes to go. Then moved Sterling to the left flank.
We needed to score, so another striker should have joined the match. England had plenty of players able to get the ball in the area, but not many had their shooting boots on.pitbull

I'm afraid your defending the indefensible there Roy, if you cant see how poor shriek was theres no hope. Baines did have a poor game and made a few mistakes but he was left on his own too many times because shriek couldn't, or wouldn't cover or track back. If you really want sterling to play as the no. 10 then you have to drop shriek, don't just try to 'fit him in' as it didn't and wont work!
Pirlo ran the game again and was given too much space and time, does anyone think he would have got that playing against saints? Listening to the fans cheering and going ole when Italy were passing it around for fun was embarrassing. I know it was hot but they weren't even chasing them down in the first half.

I'm afraid your defending the indefensible there Roy, if you cant see how poor shriek was theres no hope. Baines did have a poor game and made a few mistakes but he was left on his own too many times because shriek couldn't, or wouldn't cover or track back. If you really want sterling to play as the no. 10 then you have to drop shriek, don't just try to 'fit him in' as it didn't and wont work!
Pirlo ran the game again and was given too much space and time, does anyone think he would have got that playing against saints? Listening to the fans cheering and going ole when Italy were passing it around for fun was embarrassing. I know it was hot but they weren't even chasing them down in the first half.el caballo santos101

Hodgson spent hours at SMS earlier this year ....seems to have learnt nothing. Luke Shaw left out; Rickie Lambert left out; Adam Lallana given 12 mins, even Wilshire gets the call before him. Shaw Lambert and Lallana should start against Uraguay..... but wont..... Rooney will. Hodgson to be sacked before new season kicks off in August.

Hodgson spent hours at SMS earlier this year ....seems to have learnt nothing. Luke Shaw left out; Rickie Lambert left out; Adam Lallana given 12 mins, even Wilshire gets the call before him. Shaw Lambert and Lallana should start against Uraguay..... but wont..... Rooney will. Hodgson to be sacked before new season kicks off in August.GHamilton

Nothing to do with this article but reports are saying Koeman wants to bring his brother, Edwin, with him as assistant manager.
The reports also say Koeman wants Graziano Pelle as a replacement for SRL.

Nothing to do with this article but reports are saying Koeman wants to bring his brother, Edwin, with him as assistant manager.
The reports also say Koeman wants Graziano Pelle as a replacement for SRL.pitbull

It's amusing to hear Rio Ferdinand saying that England MUST play Rooney - just look at his scoring record for England! From 82 caps, 39 goals - true, it's not a bad return for international games. But look at his World Cup record, when the cream of the world's players rise to the top. Eight games, no goals, 1 assist (last night's cross to Sturridge). Those are the statistics that great players are judged by and Rooney cannot compare. He can score against the likes of Moldova and Macedonia but put him on the world's biggest stage and he's a paper tiger. Time to put him out to pasture Roy.

It's amusing to hear Rio Ferdinand saying that England MUST play Rooney - just look at his scoring record for England! From 82 caps, 39 goals - true, it's not a bad return for international games. But look at his World Cup record, when the cream of the world's players rise to the top. Eight games, no goals, 1 assist (last night's cross to Sturridge). Those are the statistics that great players are judged by and Rooney cannot compare. He can score against the likes of Moldova and Macedonia but put him on the world's biggest stage and he's a paper tiger. Time to put him out to pasture Roy.expatsaint

bakeyboy wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue!

And the reason for that is he just strolled around most of the time.
When he didn't have the ball he just kept jogging into position, to receive the next.
Simple passes.
LET THE BALL DO THE WORK.
Thats what he did brilliantly.
Offered a 2 Year extention to his contract with his club, tells its' own story for a player of his age.

[quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS![/p][/quote]Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue![/p][/quote]And the reason for that is he just strolled around most of the time.
When he didn't have the ball he just kept jogging into position, to receive the next.
Simple passes.
LET THE BALL DO THE WORK.
Thats what he did brilliantly.
Offered a 2 Year extention to his contract with his club, tells its' own story for a player of his age.SFCOLDBOY

bakeyboy wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS!

Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue!

And the reason for that is he just strolled around most of the time.
When he didn't have the ball he just kept jogging into position, to receive the next.
Simple passes.
LET THE BALL DO THE WORK.
Thats what he did brilliantly.
Offered a 2 Year extention to his contract with his club, tells its' own story for a player of his age.

[quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote:
Have to agree Rooney apart from the cross for the goal did nothing and missed a couple of chances when they came his way, he does not look fit enough to be able to play in that position because he just could not track back and left Baines too exposed on several occasions. Baines also had a poor game and just was not prepared to run at their defence when he had the opportunity, lets get Luke involved for the next game and you will see a much better player in that position. Johnson couldn't trap a bag of cement and he is supposed to be the best right back in England (God help us) and what does Hodgson see in Wellbeck, he must be amazing in training because when ever I have seen him play for England he is absolutely clueless and runs around like a headless chicken, but apart from that I thought we did ok. The difference was Italy were comfortable in possession and we are not, we only started playing football when went behind and by then it was too late. Oh well the lads will be able to get back to their holidays soon and we can get on with the business of selling Lallana, Luke, Chambers and probably Lovren and get some decent Dutch replacements in to us to the next level. CORS![/p][/quote]Totally agree . But you have to question the teams fitness with players going down with cramp, and a 35 year old for Italy who ran the whole show showing no symptoms of fatigue![/p][/quote]And the reason for that is he just strolled around most of the time.
When he didn't have the ball he just kept jogging into position, to receive the next.
Simple passes.
LET THE BALL DO THE WORK.
Thats what he did brilliantly.
Offered a 2 Year extention to his contract with his club, tells its' own story for a player of his age.SFCOLDBOY

Wayne Rooney.........repor
tedly earns £250,000 per week, made one decent cross and did fcuk all else during the rest of the game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he's just a waste of talent who would be better off dropped for the next game. He just doesn't have the commitment in my opinion and we can do better than him. Roy Hodgson may have picked players from outside the top 6 in the Premier League for his squad but I don't believe he has a clue how, or when, to use them to maximise their full potential. I'm sorry to say that our plane will be coming home sooner rather than later. I truly hope I am proved wrong.

Wayne Rooney.........repor
tedly earns £250,000 per week, made one decent cross and did fcuk all else during the rest of the game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he's just a waste of talent who would be better off dropped for the next game. He just doesn't have the commitment in my opinion and we can do better than him. Roy Hodgson may have picked players from outside the top 6 in the Premier League for his squad but I don't believe he has a clue how, or when, to use them to maximise their full potential. I'm sorry to say that our plane will be coming home sooner rather than later. I truly hope I am proved wrong.Des/Isle of Wight/SFC

tedly earns £250,000 per week, made one decent cross and did fcuk all else during the rest of the game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he's just a waste of talent who would be better off dropped for the next game. He just doesn't have the commitment in my opinion and we can do better than him. Roy Hodgson may have picked players from outside the top 6 in the Premier League for his squad but I don't believe he has a clue how, or when, to use them to maximise their full potential. I'm sorry to say that our plane will be coming home sooner rather than later. I truly hope I am proved wrong.

Slight correction. He is on £300,000 a week but I agree with the rest of your post. It is about time that Big Club (Hodgson) and the English media saw sense and dropped him. He is nothing. Since bursting onto the scene at Euro 2004 he has only scored one goal in a major tournament. And even then, it was a 2 yard header into an empty net that your granny would have scored. £300,000 a week and England's 'main goal threat'. Where do I sign up?

[quote][p][bold]Des/Isle of Wight/SFC[/bold] wrote:
Wayne Rooney.........repor
tedly earns £250,000 per week, made one decent cross and did fcuk all else during the rest of the game. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he's just a waste of talent who would be better off dropped for the next game. He just doesn't have the commitment in my opinion and we can do better than him. Roy Hodgson may have picked players from outside the top 6 in the Premier League for his squad but I don't believe he has a clue how, or when, to use them to maximise their full potential. I'm sorry to say that our plane will be coming home sooner rather than later. I truly hope I am proved wrong.[/p][/quote]Slight correction. He is on £300,000 a week but I agree with the rest of your post. It is about time that Big Club (Hodgson) and the English media saw sense and dropped him. He is nothing. Since bursting onto the scene at Euro 2004 he has only scored one goal in a major tournament. And even then, it was a 2 yard header into an empty net that your granny would have scored. £300,000 a week and England's 'main goal threat'. Where do I sign up?03alpe01

Look at the positive one of the others big name side lost to a little known side so all we have to do is win the next two games as I cannot see CRC beating them so heads up and keep on believing.

But I agree Rooney is not an international player I have thought he was in my book drop him for the rest of the games, may be look at putting King Ricky in just behind to hold the ball and look for the killer pass we know he can do.

Look at the positive one of the others big name side lost to a little known side so all we have to do is win the next two games as I cannot see CRC beating them so heads up and keep on believing.
But I agree Rooney is not an international player I have thought he was in my book drop him for the rest of the games, may be look at putting King Ricky in just behind to hold the ball and look for the killer pass we know he can do.Southampton boy

I agree with everything that has been said so far Rooney and Baines were poor and left the LH side exposed too often, it wasn't by mistake that all there moves were down the LH side! I think Adam would cover the LH side better than Rooney and I think Shaw would relish the opportunity instead of Baines.
I think It would send a message if Hodgson dropped Rooney, but he won't though as there has been all this hype built up around him. Why can't we can't accept it that he is not world class .
On the positive side I can see some of the big European clubs coming in for Stirling and Sturridge. Give Diverpool a taste of their own medicine!

I agree with everything that has been said so far Rooney and Baines were poor and left the LH side exposed too often, it wasn't by mistake that all there moves were down the LH side! I think Adam would cover the LH side better than Rooney and I think Shaw would relish the opportunity instead of Baines.
I think It would send a message if Hodgson dropped Rooney, but he won't though as there has been all this hype built up around him. Why can't we can't accept it that he is not world class .
On the positive side I can see some of the big European clubs coming in for Stirling and Sturridge. Give Diverpool a taste of their own medicine!Chapperall

Southampton boy wrote:
Look at the positive one of the others big name side lost to a little known side so all we have to do is win the next two games as I cannot see CRC beating them so heads up and keep on believing.

But I agree Rooney is not an international player I have thought he was in my book drop him for the rest of the games, may be look at putting King Ricky in just behind to hold the ball and look for the killer pass we know he can do.

you honestly reckon we're going to fare any better against Costa Rica?

They displayed the attitude the England team should have.

Instead of which the same old no hopers keep getting picked because apparently they are the best we have to offer. the amount of money Rooney gets per week (or anyone else) is quite clearly NO reflection of what we are seeing in an England shirt. Even Gerrard was nowhere to be seen last night.
I'm bored of watching the team get hyped up and then go precisely nowhere in major competitions. I'm bored of watching Rooney waddle around the pitch doing the square root of jack sh*t. One f*cking assist and the media wet themselves.

The team need to up themselves considerably otherwise we aren't getting out of the group. And frankly - I don't think we actually deserve to if we are going to keep on picking the same failures time after time.

[quote][p][bold]Southampton boy[/bold] wrote:
Look at the positive one of the others big name side lost to a little known side so all we have to do is win the next two games as I cannot see CRC beating them so heads up and keep on believing.
But I agree Rooney is not an international player I have thought he was in my book drop him for the rest of the games, may be look at putting King Ricky in just behind to hold the ball and look for the killer pass we know he can do.[/p][/quote]you honestly reckon we're going to fare any better against Costa Rica?
They displayed the attitude the England team should have.
Instead of which the same old no hopers keep getting picked because apparently they are the best we have to offer. the amount of money Rooney gets per week (or anyone else) is quite clearly NO reflection of what we are seeing in an England shirt. Even Gerrard was nowhere to be seen last night.
I'm bored of watching the team get hyped up and then go precisely nowhere in major competitions. I'm bored of watching Rooney waddle around the pitch doing the square root of jack sh*t. One f*cking assist and the media wet themselves.
The team need to up themselves considerably otherwise we aren't getting out of the group. And frankly - I don't think we actually deserve to if we are going to keep on picking the same failures time after time.Stroppy_gramps

Rooney's pitiful corner towards the end of the game summed up his underperformance. £300,000 a week! A surgeon - maybe specialising in cancer or brain damage - earns barely a third of that in a YEAR, after 10-12 years of the most intensive training and examinations. If the surgeon were to make a mistake in basic technique in a routine procedure - like Rooney's corner - it could lead to the death of a patient; the surgeon would be up before a disciplinary tribunal and even if he kept his job he would be demoted and not allowed to work unsupervised. And Rooney? He will just carry on underperforming for England, and counting his money. Much of modern football makes me sick, and it has been poisoned by Sky money.

Rooney's pitiful corner towards the end of the game summed up his underperformance. £300,000 a week! A surgeon - maybe specialising in cancer or brain damage - earns barely a third of that in a YEAR, after 10-12 years of the most intensive training and examinations. If the surgeon were to make a mistake in basic technique in a routine procedure - like Rooney's corner - it could lead to the death of a patient; the surgeon would be up before a disciplinary tribunal and even if he kept his job he would be demoted and not allowed to work unsupervised. And Rooney? He will just carry on underperforming for England, and counting his money. Much of modern football makes me sick, and it has been poisoned by Sky money.Crossley Place Saint

With the exception of one year (1966) England has failed in every World Cup since 1950. I can’t help thinking that blaming Roy Hodgson or Wayne Rooney is missing the point, hopelessly, by some distance. After all, it is not their fault that they were the best people available to take on the jobs they had over the summer.

With the exception of one year (1966) England has failed in every World Cup since 1950. I can’t help thinking that blaming Roy Hodgson or Wayne Rooney is missing the point, hopelessly, by some distance. After all, it is not their fault that they were the best people available to take on the jobs they had over the summer.Dave Juson