Most of us here like gadgets. Things with displays, LEDs, or stuff that otherwise lights up in the dark and makes cool noises. There is this one gadget I had been waiting for to come out in The Netherlands for quite a while now, but at some point a limit was reached, and today I decided to do a complete 180 and buy a competing product.

what I don't quite understand, why didn't you buy an O2 palm from Germany? They are not locked, you don't have to get into a contract the only thing is that O2 is the exclusive distributor. IMO getting a phone by paying upfront is almost always a better deal than getting it on contract.

what I don't quite understand, why didn't you buy an O2 palm from Germany? They are not locked, you don't have to get into a contract the only thing is that O2 is the exclusive distributor. IMO getting a phone by paying upfront is almost always a better deal than getting it on contract.

No it's not. I have to pay my cell contract anyway, and phone or no phone, that's 30 EUR a month for 200min, 200txt msg, and unlimited data@2mbps. I get the iPhone for 99EUR with this contract. Without the iPhone, the contract would still be 30EUR a month - only now, you want me to pay 600 EUR for an unlocked Pre.

That's idiotic. On top of that - Germans use a QWERTZ keyboard, we use QWERTY.

"what I don't quite understand, why didn't you buy an O2 palm from Germany? They are not locked, you don't have to get into a contract the only thing is that O2 is the exclusive distributor. IMO getting a phone by paying upfront is almost always a better deal than getting it on contract.

No it's not. I have to pay my cell contract anyway, and phone or no phone, that's 30 EUR a month for 200min, 200txt msg, and unlimited data@2mbps. I get the iPhone for 99EUR with this contract. Without the iPhone, the contract would still be 30EUR a month - only now, you want me to pay 600 EUR for an unlocked Pre. "

You guys don't have better deals on contracts without phone? I thought they do have them pretty much everywhere in the world. AFAIK in Germany they do, definitely here in OZ, although you might need to move away from one of the big providers. On a side note it's quite amazing how many small providers with very unique plans they have here in OZ.

That's idiotic. On top of that - Germans use a QWERTZ keyboard, we use QWERTY.

Interesting I always assumed dutch keyboards where QWERTZ as well, considering how similar Dutch and German are.