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Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Skydiver

I'd personally say...dude people in this world, country, are starving. If you're gonna donate money pick a charity. Pick a homeless person you pass on the street, give it to your neighbor who's having a hard time.

SGU is dead and done and over. The ship has sailed. Even if the franchise comes back they will not choose a version of it that just performed so poorly, it'll be rebooted with new characters, new scenarios, new everything.

this is just my PERSONAL opinion. I know of a couple of really, really good charities I'd donate to long before I'd try to revive a show.

Sigh
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Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Hello!

I don't see anything wrong with trying to find ways to save a show that has been cancelled. I am sure that there is much more that can happen in the Stargate Universe.

I know that in the past letters have been effective. I have to wonder what letters would do. I mean when most of everyone is texting, E-Mailing, and on the internet would getting a lot of physical mail help. I wonder.

I have also wondered if there was an effort by a fandom to raise money to fund lets say a season of a series. Stargate has fans all over the world. I have to think if there was a serious effort to get the majority of the fans to give different sums of money together if it would wake up the people at the top that the Stargate fandom was serious. It is sad to say but money is one of the most important things that the people at the top care about.

I have not finished Stargate Universe yet but I can not help but think that this series might just get more fans as time goes on. It is a very strong series.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

That's a nice idea, but after thinking about it, the producers should just make a SG-1/Atlantis combo series and use it to finish any remaining SG-1 and Antlantis stories.
And since they had a 3-year contract for the 3rd series (if I'm not mistaken), they should take advantage and call the combo series SGU. That way, we would see the Universe cast in the series with various characters from SG-1 and Atlantis appearing whenever the plot would require them to. This would be the perfect opportunity to test out the new series format (more serialized, etc.) before moving onto the existing SGU.

And if the raitings would still keep going down, the last two years would still give the producers the chance to finish off the series and maybe even do the remaining Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis movies. However, in case of the success, starting with existing SGU, the series would have the existing Stargate Universe cast appear in the series and starting with SGU season 3, we would get what we got in SGU S01 and with season 4, we would get what we got in SGU S02. In case of success, this would give the series a power boost for a 5th season, which would eventually save the series in case the raitings would have dropped like they did.

So in the end, the producers would have 2 stories/series completed (SG-1 > 10 seasons, 4 movies; Atlantis > 5 seasons, 1 movie, maybe 2) and still be able to finish off the 3rd series and make it last for 5 years like originally intended (which would end up being a 7 year run because of the 2 combo seasons in case of success). But if the new format and the new series would still fail, we would have the first two series completed anyway.

God, I hope the MGM folk change their mind and allow at least the Revolution and Extinction movies be made.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Stargate may not come back and if it did it would be 10 years or more down the road(remakes or new material). Fans are not going to raise millions of dollars for a production. What I am hopefully for is independent comics, movies, and mini web series that can spawn from Kickstarter. Hopefully some more sci-fi material from people who care deeply for it.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Deevil

Okay, seriously, people think that the 'fans' - which are few not many - can raise *at least* $40mil?

Yeah, I think that does define delusional...

Yup. As was said (by myself and some others, I think), the best that could be hoped for if anything 'crowd funded' will even be approved (and all potential legal barriers overcome lol), is something that ISN'T a new season of the show (e.g., smaller stuff like novels, audiobooks...something).

To date, I think the most funded kickstarter is still the same one (over 3 million USD). A far cry from 40 million.
(and, perhaps I'm being a bit of a pessimist here, but could they even expect to get even $500k in pledges for an SGU-based project? *shrugs* )
Just checked: 3.3 mil is still the most funded, followed by another game at 3 mil. Shadowrun Returns' a few thousand short of 1.5 mil. and it has a couple of days to go (making all 3 most funded projects video games, followed by an iPhone dock thingy and a comic book reprint?)http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/...ed?ref=sidebar

Again, I'd support a petition/whatever (if someone were to make it etc. etc.) to get MGM/TPTB behind a crowd funded project (whether or not I'll shell out cash should something be started is another matter entirely...to date, I've only supported 2 projects, and will be doing so for a 3rd and maybe a 4th, because the 'rewards' were very interesting/appealing )

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

thing is folks, MGM holds the copyright. you can't do anything without running afoul of them

and IMHO, they will never let fans do anything because they want a clear copyright when/if they reboot it.

Copyright really won't be affected if hey were to do something like this, it just wouldn't be worrh their time, money and legal costs to pursuit it because, no matter what folks seem to think, fans who are still around for SHU probably would be lucky to raise 10,000 IMO. It'll cost them more than that to deal with kickstarter.

I get that folks are still stuck firmly in denialland BUT, the show is over. I highly recommend experiencing the final stages of grief so one can move on.

Disclaimer:All opinions stated within this post are relevant to the author herself, and do not in any way represent the opinions of God, Country, The Powers That Be or Greater Fandom.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

I get that folks are still stuck firmly in denialland BUT, the show is over. I highly recommend experiencing the final stages of grief so one can move on.

As I see it, I don't see anything wrong w/ letting folks try. Maybe for them it'll be like closure, regardless of the magnitude of the project and whether the effort fails or succeeds.

I do agree, tho', that it may not be worth it money-wise, but, in the case of Kickstarter, if they don't meet the minimum goal for funding, they don't end up getting charged...and then, at least, they could say that 'they tried' (even if that means failing to secure permission/whatever for a crowd funded project)
Or something like that.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Gatefan1976

Who allowed reality in to this discussion

I interject reality into the discussion when I'm reading these consistent references to the website, and while no one has directly broken the rules by asking for money, it's too close for comfort. IMHO anyone 'donating' money to bringing back the show might as well take a match to the bills cause it's nothing but a scam.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Deevil

Add to that, legally if *anyone* were to start a kickstarter to raise money for a show they don't have copyright too, it is a criminal copyright issue.

Yup. Hence why anyone (is there anyone/a group, to begin with?) planning this should communicate/coordinate/plead/beg with MGM/TPTB/whoever holds the copyright first (hence the point regarding a petition for 'permission' first).
I kinda agree that it probably won't progress past that point, if people were to try, but that's their time.
As I said, I will sign such a petition, but I won't commit past that.

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Deevil

Add to that, legally if *anyone* were to start a kickstarter to raise money for a show they don't have copyright too, it is a criminal copyright issue.

its called stealing. You're trying to raise money to use premises and characters that belong to someone else to make money. theft of intellectual property. IMHO, if Kickstarter had any sort of control they'd bar the project from the get go, simply to not be embroiled in the whole thing

Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

Originally Posted by Skydiver

its called stealing. You're trying to raise money to use premises and characters that belong to someone else to make money. theft of intellectual property. IMHO, if Kickstarter had any sort of control they'd bar the project from the get go, simply to not be embroiled in the whole thing

Yea if MGM wants to retain control over the rights so be it(even though at the moments they are doing nothing with it). Its time for some new original ideas(or rip offs) which can be started by independent artists and writers. I can never have enough sci-fi/fantasy stuff. I think its good that people want to get outside the "industries" main powers.

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Re: Kickstarter SGU Project

So, a harebrained idea.... what would it take to capitalise at least a final episode of SGU to once and for all resolve all the little notions that where explored, express but never tied up?? the thought that everyone is simple asleep for the next few years while they drift into the next solar systems still begs the question of what logic was found in the fabric of reality and whom was its and presumably our creator. im sure this can be wrapped up to give us all some peace.

lets say it costs $30m, im sure all those fans out there would pre pay $10 each for the chance to see the end unfold. thats only 3 million fans, heck i would pay $100 or more. and if this transaction was direct and without the overheads of the distributors i could work????