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I have several fallow lots and a few parks/pathways around my town where I am dying to "accidentally drop" some flower seeds that will provide some nice forage for my honeys. Anyone ever try anything like this and had any luck?

If I do it - what do you think would be the best seeds to use? I would like things that are not only great for bees but that have a good chance of reseeding but not necessarily being perennial. I am trying to temper my thoughts by not using things that might become invasive or things that most folks would consider weeds (like henbit).

I am thinking poppy, morning glory, goldenrod, larkspur. What about cosmos - do honeybees care for them? Other suggestions?

Cosmos are good (and will reseed), drop some zinnia seeds (probably won't reseed, but), they really love them and they grow fast. Sunflowers will reseed. Don't be dropping morning glory seeds to run wild, in many areas they're invasive and people won't like you anymore :evil: Echinacea reseed, yes, they are perennials, but they're so lovely and the bees do love them. I don't know about wallflowers, I've never seen them go for them but then again I probably wasn't looking.

Your local Milkweed and Joe Pye Weed are very beneficial native plants. Sunflowers would be the easiest rout and they are native too, however birds will certainly eat the seeds if you simply "drop" them on the ground, and they do require more of a full sun location. Poppies are good ok. Zinnias are also good but better when all one color, though they will very likely developer disease. Asters are good and also native, Goldenrod too but both of these bloom in the fall. Dandelion are native and very good as well.

I've had fair luck getting them to use Liatris, though some they won't touch and they're more of a small bulb plant anyhow.

This may sound strange, but you can roll small seed balls with compost and goat dung to drop and it cuts down on the birds eating them. You just want to use a little dung as the manure can burn the seed. This also gives it some fertilizer and some protection while the shoot develops.

You also may consider buying some of the seeds in a roll at your local mart type business. You can often get good wildflower mats that you could cut up and drop in pieces.

It's probably a good idea to soak the seeds beforehand on most varieties, though dandelions and some other wildflowers should do fine without soaking.

You are going to need to seed a LOT of area to make any impact on your honey. As in acres.

But if you want to beautify the area, that is a good enough reason. I like sunflowers, they always come up the next year. They, however, can be considered invasive as well.

Purple loosestrife and spotted knapweed will be guaranteed to take over the area, but there again, if they aren't in the area already you wouldn't be doing anybody a favor, they are BAD news, so I don't know why I'm even mentioning them :roll:.

If it's a very wet area perhaps next to a pond, stream, or considered swamp land you could vary easily plant a Button Bush, Cephalanthus occidentalis. They're also a native plant to the US and a fairly prolific. I read they will even grow in shallow water. 6 to 8 feet but can sometimes get to be 15 feet tall and about 7 wide. Bees, butterflies, and hummingbirds use the fragrant flowers as food, and water birds will eat the seeds.

Jessaboo, we have a great list of bee plants that I am going to bring on here for you. Ann (Rienbow) and I both worked on this list. There are many, many annuals there that you can just drop on the ground. In nature, when plants sow seeds they are mostly not covered, most seeds will germinate without the covering of soil, many require soil depth.

In this list you find many, many plants that are easy to grow. Hope this helps you out alot.

Bachelors Buttons is a really attractive one for the bees that is not really invasive. Bees really like blue flowers, I have a mountain of types of plants that self seed everywhere on my property, and the bees are in a seventh heaven here with them. Every year I add more to different places and they self-seed and this carries on, and on, and on. I am in the process now of all the seeds that I have gathered from most of the annuals of sowing them in new places around my property. It will be a work of beauty around here this summer. I successive sow many plants, so they continue right up until frost kill. I am just now going to sow the buckwheat because I see it germinating. When buckwheat germinates, the time is right for getting my gathered seeds spread. Have the most wonderful and beautiful day, love our lives we live. Cindi

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Personally, if you're just broadcasting seeds, you need very hardy germinaters. to me this means, cosmos, poppies, borage, black-eyed susans, daisies and the like. Combo of pernial, and annuals. nothing is easier than cosmos,poppies and borage.

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Thanks Peter for the link..it's now in my favorites! I have a hard time finding wildflower mixes for the shade. Have acidic soil from the many cedar/hemlock/pine needles too. I have many rhodys & would like to plant flowers amongst them for color later in the summer. Jody

I know the leaves are but I think we & the bees would have to eat tons of concentrated nectar to have any effect. My goats have eaten a few leaves with no averse reactions. The bumbles & bees love the rhody flowers, as do the hummers you can hear the buzzing of busy insects from the house. I will take pics when everything is blooming a/once, I have rhodys, lilac, golden chain & magnolia around the pond. Jody

I heard that there were a few isolated poisonings from the rhododendrons and honeybees. Don't know much more.

I have massive rhodo trees here. Last summer I spent alot of time looking at them to see who was working them. At my place, the only thing that worked the rhodos were the bombus, narry a bumblebee ever seen. I wouldn't worry too much about honeybees and rhodos, not worth worrying about. The small amount of nectar that MAY be poisonous would be very miniscule, in my opinion, rhodos only bloom for a very short period, of course,with different varieties the blooming period may be longer. Nothing I would worry too much about. Beautiful day in this great life we all are sharin'. Cindi

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This is a perennial question, one I had myself. The answer to the rhododendron honey subject is: honeybees will work them, but they're not their favorite. You'll see more bumbles on them. Also the rhodos bloom early, so the honey made by the bees is usually consumed as food over the spring season, they work different nectar sources over the season, and it's gone by the end of summer. It seems to be true, I'm surrounded by over eight acres of rhodocendrons and our honey hasn't driven us crazy(er) yet! :evil:

Here's more information on 'Mad Honey Disease'. You get 'intoxicated' and then end up losing your cookies - doesn't sound very pleasant, but it's rarely fatal, or so they say.

This is fab! Thank you - I love the slide show for making "seed bombs" - I especially love the fact that she is using the heel of her stiletto shoe to make the planting hole! Gotta love those crazy gardeners!

I work with a young adult group and I think that we will def be doing some seed bombing!