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All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

whether or not you credit psychoanalysis itself, the fact remains that we all must, to the greatest extent possible, understand one another's minds as our own; the very survival of humanity has always depended on it. - Open Culture

So when working class people go to university and major in something "non-practical" ....they're usually iNtuitives. I'm just saying.

Going to university is "education." Must one have to go to grad school to be middle class? Then that puts us back at economics with the "professional class."

Actually in some cases people who have gone to grad school work at low paying jobs. I've seen it happen.

Middle class includes entrepreneurs. They don't have to even go to college at all.

It's pretty simple - if you get paid a wage, that is, paid money in exchange for your time, or in consideration for a certain task, and you do not get to set the terms of when that time is, or what that task is, you're working class, no matter if you're blue collar or white collar.

Originally Posted by oberon

Oh... well, these aren't discriminatory against people with your vision... they represent significant entry costs for any startup, including ones constructed on the traditional for-profit model.

And... environmental standards? How on earth can you complain about crony capitalism in one moment and then bitch about environmental requirements the next? I promise you... if Big Business could make the EPA disappear tomorrow, they would do so. Without hesitation.

The course of this conversation is leading me to believe that you aren't really interested in doing anything to help working-class folks. I'm beginning to suspect that you just like to bitch.

My point is, lots of people like to bitch on the internet about how unfair things are for the downtrodden. It's damned rare to find someone who's actually willing to roll up their sleeves and do something about it.