I'll say this... I like that we have a defensive focused head coach. There's a boatload of work to be done on that side of the ball.

I don't know if he was the best candidate, but he certainly wasn't the worst. Now, get out there and fix that defense.

cdcox

01-13-2011, 01:54 PM

I'm okay with this. Obviously he's not a terrible coach, but he doesn't strike fear in me either.

Chief Chief

01-13-2011, 01:56 PM

Bio is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fox_%28American_football%29
I don't know if he was the best candidate, but he certainly wasn't the worst.

That, Captain Obvious, would be McCheater.

DaFace

01-13-2011, 01:56 PM

Well, OK then. Hopefully he sucks.

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 01:57 PM

This means that Mike McCoy is most likely staying in Denver since he was in Carolina with Fox two years ago. Don't know if I'm happy with that or not.... I guess it will be a good thing for Tebow having someone he is familiar with. Hopefully Fox keeps Ben McDaniels as well.

.

dirk digler

01-13-2011, 01:57 PM

meh

rad

01-13-2011, 01:58 PM

Meh. It's not even gonna be a challenge to come up with funny nicknames for him.

HotRoute

01-13-2011, 01:59 PM

And que knowmo in with saying he is the greatest coach ever in 3.2.1....

Edit: Dammit

Old Dog

01-13-2011, 02:00 PM

I'm okay with this. Obviously he's not a terrible coach, but he doesn't strike fear in me either.

This. One winning season in the last five. I would think they could have gotten someone better, but who knows what he could end up bringing.

dtebbe

01-13-2011, 02:01 PM

Great hire IMHO.

No flaming here.

DT

eazyb81

01-13-2011, 02:01 PM

LOL!

Have fun switching back to the 4-3.

What a gutless move by Denver.

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 02:02 PM

And he should have a Super Bowl ring if he didn't run into Belicheat in his cheating heyday.

KCUnited

01-13-2011, 02:02 PM

Whiskey Teener Fox?

DJJasonp

01-13-2011, 02:02 PM

john elway posts on the planet!??

Eh...nothing exciting here. A conservative pick.

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 02:03 PM

LOL!

Have fun switching back to the 4-3.

What a gutless move by Denver.

He has said he can run either system and that he is not tied to the 4-3 or the 3-4.

Old Dog

01-13-2011, 02:04 PM

And he should have a Super Bowl ring if he didn't run into Belicheat in his cheating heyday.

And your father SHOULD have pulled out, but sadly enough, apparently did not.

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 02:06 PM

FOX’S BACKGROUND IS ON DEFENSE, and he already knows that much of the Broncos’ rebuilding will be concentrated there. He coached 4-3 defenses in Carolina and from 1997-2001 as the New York Giants’ defensive coordinator, but said running a 3-4 alignment wouldn’t be a problem.

“Not really. It’s semantics,” Fox said. “Obviously there are some personnel things that aren’t that deep-seated. Everybody plays under/over, whether you originate out of the 3-4 or 4-3..

keg in kc

01-13-2011, 02:06 PM

Good hire I think.

Unfortunately.

Mr. Laz

01-13-2011, 02:08 PM

He has said he can run either system and that he is not tied to the 4-3 or the 3-4.
if you have more than one Quarterback then you really have none.

Mr. Arrowhead

01-13-2011, 02:08 PM

seriously is John Elway gonna break all his late breaking news on Twitter. Its kind of annoying

InChiefsHell

01-13-2011, 02:09 PM

Aside from the fact that he's already got a pretty bad win-loss record as a HC, what other reasons are there for the Donks not to hire him? I'm guessing he'll be a step up from McDumbass...

rad

01-13-2011, 02:10 PM

NFC coaches rarely do well when switching to the AFC

/reverse- knowmo style B.S.

ClevelandBronco

01-13-2011, 02:10 PM

Relieved to see an experienced guy get it. Anything else at this stage is pissing in the wind.

Mr. Flopnuts

01-13-2011, 02:11 PM

That's a shame. He may actually have them contending again before 2020.

rad

01-13-2011, 02:12 PM

Aside from the fact that he's already got a pretty bad win-loss record as a HC, what other reasons are there for the Donks not to hire him? I'm guessing he'll be a step up from McDumbass...

Pretty quick recycle period. Before all this, I expected to see Fox marinate in DC position for a year or two before jumping back in the fray

bevischief

01-13-2011, 02:13 PM

Hope he hires Herm to coach the Defense.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:14 PM

Aside from the fact that he's already got a pretty bad win-loss record as a HC, what other reasons are there for the Donks not to hire him? I'm guessing he'll be a step up from McDumbass...

I haven't followed the Panthers enough to know how they are as an organization... aggressive in FA, paying big money to get good players, etc. All I do know is that he was 5-3 in the playoffs since 2002. You have to go back to the 60's to find 5 playoff wins for KC.

I haven't followed the Panthers enough to know how they are as an organization... aggressive in FA, paying big money to get good players, etc. All I do know is that he was 5-3 in the playoffs since 2002. You have to go back to the 60's to find 5 playoff wins for KC.

Better than bad doesn't equal good.

Brock

01-13-2011, 02:16 PM

I haven't followed the Panthers enough to know how they are as an organization... aggressive in FA, paying big money to get good players, etc. All I do know is that he was 5-3 in the playoffs since 2002. You have to go back to the 60's to find 5 playoff wins for KC.

You keep mentioning KC as if it's a relevant measure of John Fox. Has he ever won a Super bowl? Is his record anything other than mediocre? You fired Mike Shanahan for this shit?

CupidStunt

01-13-2011, 02:17 PM

LOL!

Have fun switching back to the 4-3.

What a gutless move by Denver.

They have one player worth worrying about, and he's similar in either scheme: up-field and quick, awful against the run.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:18 PM

You keep mentioning KC as if it's a relevant measure of John Fox. Has he ever won a Super bowl? Is his record anything other than mediocre? You fired Mike Shanahan for this shit?

I mention KC to annoy KC fans... sorry.

No, Fox never won the SB in his 9 years of coaching. Fox did get to the SB though... if the measuring stick is 'only hire a HC that has won a SB', then you have a very shallow pool to fish. What did Vermeil do for KC? He won a SB, but it didn't matter in KC.

Fox on a whole does have an average body of work, only slightly above .500 in wins. We'll see how he does with his second team. Shanahan needed to walk away and take time off... he was not going to fix the defense.

Mr. Laz

01-13-2011, 02:20 PM

doesn't bode well for jesusbow

eazyb81

01-13-2011, 02:20 PM

He has said he can run either system and that he is not tied to the 4-3 or the 3-4.

Yeah, no one has ever lied in an interview to try and get a job when they were unemployed.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:20 PM

doesn't bode well for jesusbow

Why? I think it depends on who they retain/hire for OC...

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 02:20 PM

Carolina didn't spend money like Denver will spend money. Denver will give Fox all of the assets he will need to succeed.

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:21 PM

Carolina didn't spend money like Denver will spend money. Denver will give Fox all of the assets he will need to succeed.

LMAO

DaFace

01-13-2011, 02:21 PM

I mention KC to annoy KC fans... sorry.

No, Fox never won the SB in his 9 years of coaching. Fox did get to the SB though... if the measuring stick is 'only hire a HC that has won a SB', then you have a very shallow pool to fish. What did Vermeil do for KC? He won a SB, but it didn't matter in KC.

Fox on a whole does have an average body of work, only slightly above .500 in wins. We'll see how he does with his second team. Shanahan needed to walk away and take time off... he was not going to fix the defense.

Random trivia (that I THINK is correct): No coach has ever WON the Super Bowl with two teams.

KCUnited

01-13-2011, 02:21 PM

I mention KC to annoy KC fans... sorry.

No, Fox never won the SB in his 9 years of coaching. Fox did get to the SB though... if the measuring stick is 'only hire a HC that has won a SB', then you have a very shallow pool to fish. What did Vermeil do for KC? He won a SB, but it didn't matter in KC.

Fox on a whole does have an average body of work, only slightly above .500 in wins. We'll see how he does with his second team. Shanahan needed to walk away and take time off... he was not going to fix the defense.

No coach has won 2 SB's with 2 different teams, so you lucked out there.

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:23 PM

Random trivia (that I THINK is correct): No coach has ever WON the Super Bowl with two teams.

It's true.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:24 PM

Rumor is he may want to bring in Jim Mora jr for defense...

HotRoute

01-13-2011, 02:25 PM

Carolina didn't spend money like Denver will spend money. Denver will give Fox all of the assets he will need to succeed.

How many HC's are they paying now???

Woodrow Call

01-13-2011, 02:25 PM

Hooray for boring mediocrity.

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:26 PM

The Broncos just went from one extreme to the other.

Haley's aggressive nature will eat Fox alive.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:27 PM

Fox > Haley

(first in with that one)

:evil:

Mr. Laz

01-13-2011, 02:27 PM

Why? I think it depends on who they retain/hire for OC...true enough but imo the head coach effects the development of a young QB regardless. I suppose if they hire a really strong OC, that used to be a HC, who can really take charge.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:27 PM

The Broncos just went from one extreme to the other.

Haley's aggressive nature will eat Fox alive.

And, much like KnowMo ... you have absolutely NOTHING to base that on.

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:29 PM

And, much like KnowMo ... you have absolutely NOTHING to base that on.

Yeah, apart from nine seasons in Carolina.

Fox belongs in the 50s with all the other conservative retards.

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Maybe you guys will trade for Jimmy Clausen.

Von Dumbass

01-13-2011, 02:29 PM

The Broncos just went from one extreme to the other.

Haley's aggressive nature will eat Fox alive.

Haley's aggressive nature will get him fired within the next two years.

And not just his aggressiveness towards his staff but how dumb he is with his aggressive 4th down decisions that ALWAYS fail.

nychief

01-13-2011, 02:30 PM

I think it is a solid hire...

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Yeah, apart from nine seasons in Carolina.

Fox belongs in the 50s with all the other conservative retards.

Again - you know very little about the NFL as a whole, especially when the topic gets beyond KC.

MoreLemonPledge

01-13-2011, 02:30 PM

John Fox? More like... John... Flox of Seagulls.

OK, I've got nothing.

MoreLemonPledge

01-13-2011, 02:31 PM

Haley's aggressive nature will get him fired within the next two years.

He has said he can run either system and that he is not tied to the 4-3 or the 3-4.

Ummmm.. that means he doesn't have a plan. Or a clue.

DaWolf

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

Solid, safe hire. Denver will be competitive. It doesn't mean squat though if the personnel department doesn't do a better job...

DeezNutz

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

Tebow. LMAO.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

https://twitter.com/TimTebow/status/25666242941550592

Point of posting this is...

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

https://twitter.com/TimTebow/status/25666242941550592

Is your whole team going to fucking Twitter now?

Say hellooooo to your 2011 Denver Twitters!!!!!!!!

MoreLemonPledge

01-13-2011, 02:33 PM

https://twitter.com/TimTebow/status/25666242941550592

(Please don't trade me, please don't trade me)

MoreLemonPledge

01-13-2011, 02:34 PM

Solid, safe hire. Denver will be competitive. It doesn't mean squat though if the personnel department doesn't do a better job...

Yep, and with Elway handling that, things are sure to get better...

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:34 PM

Solid, safe hire. Denver will be competitive. It doesn't mean squat though if the personnel department doesn't do a better job...

BINGO ... fix the defense. Find an OC that can work with what they have now, while bringing in an actual pass catching TE and another RB to help out.

Other than that - bring back Champ and focus 80% of the efforts in FA and the Draft on Defense.

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:34 PM

Yep, and with Elway handling that, things are sure to get better...

:LOL::thumb:

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:35 PM

BINGO ... fix the defense. Find an OC that can work with what they have now, while bringing in an actual pass catching TE and another RB to help out.

Other than that - bring back Champ and focus 80% of the efforts in FA and the Draft on Defense.

I heard Detroit has one of those sitting on the bench. Have you ever heard of Tony Scheffler?

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:35 PM

Again - you know very little about the NFL as a whole, especially when the topic gets beyond KC.

OK, genious.

Do you have some proof that John Fox is not an overly conservative retard who is stuck in the 50s? Because certainly all the evidence points that way.

What we do know is this: you are a total Broncos homer who predicted a successful season this for the Broncos, even in the midst of a less than .500 start (don't make me bump the thread), and when Jay Cutler was about to be traded you insisted he would remain a Bronco. You said, quote, "this will all blow over."

And then when he was traded, you immediately switched sides and insisted it was a good thing for the Broncos and McDaniels was awesome.

You = full of shit.

John Fox = suck.

Three winning seasons...in nine years...spin, spin, spin.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:36 PM

I heard Detroit has one of those sitting on the bench. Have you ever heard of Tony Scheffler?

Yeah, but he was never healthy or consistently good... huge upside, but always hurt.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/ScheTo00.htm

Superturtle

01-13-2011, 02:37 PM

Seems like a pretty solid coach, but you better hope to god your personnel Dept can get some solid talent and fast. Esp on defense. In Carolina Fox didnt have the talent he needed to coach and it showed huge.

Mr. Arrowhead

01-13-2011, 02:37 PM

seriously I thought knowshit was suppose to be done here

tooge

01-13-2011, 02:37 PM

And he should have a Super Bowl ring if he didn't run into Belicheat in his cheating heyday.

Dude, they could have hired Land Kiffin, and you would have been able to have some reason his fail in Oakland was everyone elses fault and how he would be the greatest coach ever for Denver.

Deberg_1990

01-13-2011, 02:38 PM

Meh....strikes me as a Jeff Fisher type. He will put together a decent team every 3 or 4 years or so.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:41 PM

OK, genious.

Do you have some proof that John Fox is not an overly conservative retard who is stuck in the 50s? Because certainly all the evidence points that way.

What we do know is this: you are a total Broncos homer who predicted a successful season this for the Broncos, even in the midst of a less than .500 start (don't make me bump the thread), and when Jay Cutler was about to be traded you insisted he would remain a Bronco. You said, quote, "this will all blow over."

And then when he was traded, you immediately switched sides and insisted it was a good thing for the Broncos and McDaniels was awesome.

You type those things as if you have never been incorrect with any of your commentary. I did think it would blow over, but it blew up. And, I had to support the move - as a fan - it's all I can do. Where did I post that McD was 'awesome'. Find it... I'd love to know if I used that word.

Your first line about being stuck in the 50s is so stupid...

You don't like Fox, that's fine. I like that he's a defensive focused HC... he's had success. I mentioned that he's average, but he is 5-3 in the playoffs and the upside is good, IMO.

Now, run about...

Hog Farmer

01-13-2011, 02:41 PM

Tebow first in to start kissing his ass. Imagine that !

DaFace

01-13-2011, 02:42 PM

I guess my main issue here is that I think it'll be kind of hard to hate Fox. I mean, he's a pretty likable guy, regardless of his coaching prowess.

Hoover

01-13-2011, 02:42 PM

I think this is a good hire for Denver.

It's safe, which Elway needs. I wonder if John is going to keep the coaches office or give it to Fox

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:45 PM

I think this is a good hire for Denver.

It's safe, which Elway needs. I wonder if John is going to keep the coaches office or give it to Fox

I'm interested to see what the coaching staff looks like and if they are actually going to trade a few guys (rumors have been Orton, DJ Williams, maybe Royal) for extra picks. If they did trade those guys, they could pick up 3-4 extra picks in Rounds 2-4, and they'll need all they can get.

Then, it's up to Ellis, Elway, Xanders and team to not screw up the draft.

Frosty

01-13-2011, 02:45 PM

If I were a Broncos fan, I wouldn't throw myself off of a bridge (like I considered when Herm was hired) but I would be very underwhelmed.

Frosty

01-13-2011, 02:46 PM

I'm interested to see what the coaching staff looks like and if they are actually going to trade a few guys (rumors have been Orton, DJ Williams, maybe Royal) for extra picks. If they did trade those guys, they could pick up 3-4 extra picks in Rounds 2-4, and they'll need all they can get.

Then, it's up to Ellis, Elway, Xanders and team to not screw up the draft.

Considering that this is considered a weak draft, I'm hoping this happens. :evil:

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:46 PM

If I were a Broncos fan, I wouldn't throw myself off of a bridge (like I considered when Herm was hired) but I would be very underwhelmed.

I don't know that there was a candidate out there that made me think "OHHHH, it has to be him!"

I'm on the "fix the defense or it's all pointless" bandwagon...

Frosty

01-13-2011, 02:48 PM

I don't know that there was a candidate out there that made me think "OHHHH, it has to be him!"

I'm on the "fix the defense or it's all pointless" bandwagon...

Rallying cry of the 2011 Broncos: "At least it wasn't Herm!"

MoreLemonPledge

01-13-2011, 02:50 PM

I don't know that there was a candidate out there that made me think "OHHHH, it has to be him!"

I'm on the "fix the defense or it's all pointless" bandwagon...

If only there was a coordinator that could coach up your defense, and make an under-performing defense respectable.

Is Mike Nolan still available?

DaWolf

01-13-2011, 02:50 PM

The issue I would have with Fox had the Chiefs hired him is that he has had only three good seasons out of nine, and he has never followed up one winning season with another. This to me points to an issue with building and coaching a consistent winner...

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:50 PM

Considering that this is considered a weak draft, I'm hoping this happens. :evil:

I guess it depends on what you need... I'm quite certain there are a number of guys in those middle rounds that can help in the short and long-term.

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:50 PM

I'm interested to see what the coaching staff looks like and if they are actually going to trade a few guys (rumors have been Orton, DJ Williams, maybe Royal) for extra picks.

It would be great if Fox finished what McDaniels started - trading ALL of Denver's good players.

By the way, Orton, Williams and Royal are not worth a 2nd. Not even close.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:51 PM

If only there was a coordinator that could coach up your defense, and make an under-performing defense respectable.

Is Mike Nolan still available?

:p All falls into the era that I will hopefully be able to forget in due time.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 02:52 PM

It would be great if Fox finished what McDaniels started - trading ALL of Denver's good players.

By the way, Orton, Williams and Royal are not worth a 2nd. Not even close.

Hmmm, did I say each would bring R2 picks on their own? Let me know when you get a job in the NFL...

Superturtle

01-13-2011, 02:53 PM

It would be great if Fox finished what McDaniels started - trading ALL of Denver's good players.

By the way, Orton, Williams and Royal are not worth a 2nd. Not even close.
Orton was a system QB, sure, but didn't he play pretty well for a while? Royal certainly isnt a slouch either.

Rams Fan

01-13-2011, 02:53 PM

It would be great if Fox finished what McDaniels started - trading ALL of Denver's good players.

By the way, Orton, Williams and Royal are not worth a 2nd. Not even close.

Royal could be worth a 2nd round pick. He's been the #2 WR from the '08 draft stats wise. And he was picked in the 2nd round.

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:53 PM

Mile High is just running the same garbage he always does.

Everything the Broncos do is good at first.

Everything.

Have you ever disagreed with a move when it happens?

I bet if I dug deep enough I could find you pimping Jarvis Moss.

Numbah One

01-13-2011, 02:54 PM

Royal could be worth a 2nd round pick.

Only in Mile High Mania's retarded world.

Anquan Boldin wasn't worth a flipping 2nd. He's not even a starting WR.

Dicky McElephant

01-13-2011, 02:55 PM

Royal is worth like a 5th-6th round pick.

Rams Fan

01-13-2011, 02:57 PM

Only in Mile High Mania's retarded world.

Anquan Boldin wasn't worth a flipping 2nd. He's not even a starting WR.

You're joking, right? Boldin could have been worth a 2nd, but AZ probably wanted more picks. Royal could be traded for a 3rd easily.

Superturtle

01-13-2011, 02:58 PM

Boldin was on his way out anyway. They had to trade him, so of course he wasnt getting max value.

I am excited to announce that John Fox has agreed to terms to become the 14th head coach in Denver Broncos history.

Ok, flame away...

Seems like a good hire to me..

'Hamas' Jenkins

01-13-2011, 03:02 PM

Fox hates developing QBs.

It's an awful hire.

Rams Fan

01-13-2011, 03:04 PM

Fox hates developing QBs.

It's an awful hire.

I thought Moore had the potential to be something decent. But then he sucked this year.

Frosty

01-13-2011, 03:05 PM

I thought Moore had the potential to be something decent. But then he sucked this year.

Because Fox sucked all of the potential out of him. :harumph:

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 03:06 PM

Mile High is just running the same garbage he always does.

Everything the Broncos do is good at first.

Everything.

Have you ever disagreed with a move when it happens?

I bet if I dug deep enough I could find you pimping Jarvis Moss.

Only in Mile High Mania's retarded world.

Anquan Boldin wasn't worth a flipping 2nd. He's not even a starting WR.

Ha! You must have me mistaken for someone else... I've never applauded everything they do 100% of the time. And, regarding Fox ... I've not really provided a ringing endorsement of him either - you didn't see any "whoo hoos" from any of my postings.

Fox has an average record, but he's defensive focus and he's had playoff success... those are the positives that I am clinging to on this one. I wanted Rivera.

Regarding Boldin - were those my quotes? You'll have to prove it.. and I'm guessing you can, so go do it.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:06 PM

Fox will hire his San Diego St. teamates Herm Edwards and Mike Solari as his new coordinators

dirk digler

01-13-2011, 03:07 PM

I don't know that there was a candidate out there that made me think "OHHHH, it has to be him!"

I'm on the "fix the defense or it's all pointless" bandwagon...

There was but they all declined because of the team being cheap or Elway now being in charge

Superturtle

01-13-2011, 03:07 PM

Fox will hire his San Diego St. teamates Herm Edwards and Mike Solari as his new coordinators
Good lord....

ohiobronco2

01-13-2011, 03:10 PM

LOL!

Have fun switching back to the 4-3.

What a gutless move by Denver.

:LOL: Are you serious? We are closer to a 4-3 than a 3-4 and that is what we have run the last few years.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:11 PM

Good lord....

you know what they say. Only 3 things can happen when the ball is passed and 2 of them are bad.

WebGem

01-13-2011, 03:11 PM

seriously is John Elway gonna break all his late breaking news on Twitter. Its kind of annoying

That's where 99% of sports stories are broken.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 03:12 PM

There was but they all declined because of the team being cheap or Elway now being in charge

You're assuming I had this fascination for them to hire Gregg Williams or Mularkey... I'm kinda glad the former coaches of the Bills backed out.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:14 PM

woulda been better taking a shot with Rob Ryan to fix the D

'Hamas' Jenkins

01-13-2011, 03:15 PM

Next year you'll be in the top 5 in the NFL in rushing attempts using a power style running game, despite the fact that your line works far better in space than at the point of attack.

ClevelandBronco

01-13-2011, 03:16 PM

There was but they all declined because of the team being cheap or Elway now being in charge

Who specifically do you have in mind?

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 03:18 PM

Next year you'll be in the top 5 in the NFL in rushing attempts using a power style running game, despite the fact that your line works far better in space than at the point of attack.

Well, I'm glad that you and Wendler are around so I know what to expect...

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 03:19 PM

woulda been better taking a shot with Rob Ryan to fix the D

At some point, I'm sure he will get his chance... with the success of his brother, he's bound to get one soon.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:22 PM

At some point, I'm sure he will get his chance... with the success of his brother, he's bound to get one soon.

he did a really good job with the browns against top teams this year.

people want to take the time to properly vet he and his wife's fetishes and whether they keep them quite or not though.

mnchiefsguy

01-13-2011, 03:22 PM

Not a great hire, but they could have done a lot worse. Haley can outcoach him.

Jenson71

01-13-2011, 03:24 PM

That reminds me of the Carolina Panthers. Does that team still exist?

orange

01-13-2011, 03:25 PM

he did a really good job with the browns against top teams this year.

people want to take the time to properly vet he and his wife's fetishes and whether they keep them quite or not though.

As long as they didn't do three-ways with Marv Albert, I think he'll be okay.

dirk digler

01-13-2011, 03:26 PM

You're assuming I had this fascination for them to hire Gregg Williams or Mularkey... I'm kinda glad the former coaches of the Bills backed out.

What about Cowher or Gruden?

Mr. Flopnuts

01-13-2011, 03:27 PM

Cowher is looking at houses in Aurora?

booger

01-13-2011, 03:30 PM

As long as they didn't do three-ways with Marv Albert, I think he'll be okay.

i heard the old man buddy liked to watch midgets masturbate and he turned out ok

the Talking Can

01-13-2011, 03:32 PM

solid coach...hard to say what his upside is as it seemed carolina was treading water for several years....was that his fault or the owner/gms....

makes sense you'd hire a stable, if dull, coach after the spectacular flame out of mcfail.....

i think i'd of rolled the dice on new coach like Rivera, just because i want someone with the fire still burning...is Fox still dying to win a championship?

booger

01-13-2011, 03:36 PM

i think i'd of rolled the dice on new coach like Rivera, just because i want someone with the fire still burning...is Fox still dying to win a championship?

The one interesting thing will be his contract and if he atleast made as much as he did in Carolina. He didn't have the choice of say Childress who has at least 1 year left. Fox's Carolina deal ran out in the next two months if not sooner.

DeezNutz

01-13-2011, 03:36 PM

It's almost unfathomable how McDaniels' dumb ass destroyed that franchise. The same person capable of this level of ****ing stupidity is the same person coveted by many posters as an "offensive genious."

No thanks. You don't go from brilliant, to off-the-****ing-charts stupid, to brilliant.

Stupid is the dominant gene.

Hog Farmer

01-13-2011, 03:36 PM

I just can't see how ANYBODY with any brain cells would hire a coach that just led a team that he's coached for NINE years to the #1 pick in the draft. All I can think is that Pioli fired McDaniels with a pat on the back and put Elway on the payroll.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:36 PM

I'd much rather see them get Fox than Marvin Lewis who was in the same contract situation as a lame duck this year.

Rams Fan

01-13-2011, 03:38 PM

I'd much rather see them get Fox than Marvin Lewis who was in the same contract situation as a lame duck this year.

Why? Lewis has a worse record then Fox and at least Fox is over .500 for his career.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:39 PM

I just can't see how ANYBODY with any brain cells would hire a coach that just led a team that he's coached for NINE years to the #1 pick in the draft. All I can think is that Pioli fired McDaniels with a pat on the back and put Elway on the payroll.

i heard fox likes to watch midgets jack off hogs

Rams Fan

01-13-2011, 03:39 PM

It's almost unfathomable how McDaniels' dumb ass destroyed that franchise. The same person capable of this level of ****ing stupidity is the same person coveted by many posters as an "offensive genious."

No thanks. You don't go from brilliant, to off-the-****ing-charts stupid, to brilliant.

Stupid is the dominant gene.

You didn't see Scott Linehan destroy the Rams. I doubt the Broncos will be as bad as the Rams were right after Linehan was fired.

the Talking Can

01-13-2011, 03:41 PM

You didn't see Scott Linehan destroy the Rams. I doubt the Broncos will be as bad as the Rams were right after Linehan was fired.

no one really gives a shit about the rams

booger

01-13-2011, 03:41 PM

Why? Lewis has a worse record then Fox and at least Fox is over .500 for his career.

Marvin has sh#t support in Cincy. No GM and their personnel dept./Scouting staff is a joke. Their coaches do most of the scouting and even travel in season on saturday home games to hit the road scouting.

Otherwise i just think Marvin is a better coach.

DeezNutz

01-13-2011, 03:41 PM

You didn't see Scott Linehan destroy the Rams. I doubt the Broncos will be as bad as the Rams were right after Linehan was fired.

Please. Not even close. The Broncos had a young franchise QB and a solid WR, and these players were starting to develop into a dangerous combination.

And they just drafted Tebow. In the first. LMAO.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:43 PM

You didn't see Scott Linehan destroy the Rams. I doubt the Broncos will be as bad as the Rams were right after Linehan was fired.

he tried to trade away all of their young stars but found no takers

Brock

01-13-2011, 03:44 PM

Please. Not even close. The Broncos had a young franchise QB and a solid WR, and these players were starting to develop into a dangerous combination.

And they just drafted Tebow. In the first. LMAO.

Not to mention the Alphonso Smith debacle.

KurtCobain

01-13-2011, 03:45 PM

Please. Not even close. The Broncos had a young franchise QB and a solid WR, and these players were starting to develop into a dangerous combination.

The only thing to do with a combination like that is axe it. That's not stupid, it's genius.

I'm surprised, given the Panthers complete free-fall, that he got a HC job so quick.

I think Fox is a good, not great, coach, who with the right personnel will do a decent job. I think (hope) that he will switch Denver back to 4-3, because the fewer teams that runt hat, the better it is for the Patriots.

I hope for Denver's sake that they have a good personnel guy running that show.

DeezNutz

01-13-2011, 03:51 PM

I'm surprised, given the Panthers complete free-fall, that he got a HC job so quick.

I think Fox is a good, not great, coach, who with the right personnel will do a decent job. I think (hope) that he will switch Denver back to 4-3, because the fewer teams that runt hat, the better it is for the Patriots.

I hope for Denver's sake that they have a good personnel guy running that show.

Membership in the NFL country club is for life.

booger

01-13-2011, 03:53 PM

Membership in the NFL country club is for life.

yes but donkey shows like this only come around every 50 years

dirk digler

01-13-2011, 03:57 PM

Membership in the NFL country club is for life.

Pretty much. The Panthers lost 12 games by double digits this past season

Chiefs Pantalones

01-13-2011, 04:00 PM

It's like the white Herm Edwards.

ClevelandBronco

01-13-2011, 04:10 PM

What about Cowher or Gruden?

I don't see either of those guys as the next Belichick, but let's see if they're coaching at all before we talk about whether the Broncos could have gotten them.

ClevelandBronco

01-13-2011, 04:12 PM

It's almost unfathomable how McDaniels' dumb ass destroyed that franchise. The same person capable of this level of ****ing stupidity is the same person coveted by many posters as an "offensive genious."

No thanks. You don't go from brilliant, to off-the-****ing-charts stupid, to brilliant.

Stupid is the dominant gene.

This ought to be on every owner's wall.

suzzer99

01-13-2011, 06:37 PM

The Toyota dealership by my house turned into a John Elway Toyota and now everyone who works there is an asshole. True story.

Mile High Mania

01-13-2011, 06:41 PM

What about Cowher or Gruden?

Dunno .. you couldn't really say that you weren't a fan of Cowher, but I think he would have been very expensive and desiring control they're not likely giving another coach for a while. Gruden - I like him, but not sure I would have been "wowed".

I am excited to announce that John Fox has agreed to terms to become the 14th head coach in Denver Broncos history.

Ok, flame away...

Fox was not their first choice and I don't think the right choice but he is a "safe" choice with NFL experience who has been to a Super Bowl. They're still paying the Rat and they have to pay off McDaniels. Plus McDaniels set them so far back that they could not afford to hire another dummy. He's nothing special, more of a coaching re-tread, but he doesn't suck. I would not want him coaching my team - but I hate Denver so I'm glad he's there.

ChiefsCountry

01-13-2011, 09:42 PM

Fox is a poor man's Marty other than the Super Bowl appreance.

SNR

01-13-2011, 11:52 PM

Steve Beuerlein might be getting a call to play QB for the Broncos

SNR

01-13-2011, 11:52 PM

Wait... or did he play for George Seiffert?

Fuck, I think I botched

Mile High Mania

01-14-2011, 04:32 AM

Glad they went the retread route. Dirk Koetter woulda been better.

Who knows... I'm sure you have a list of reasons why Koetter would have been better.