Lionel describes and details the orchards, including apple varieties, gate sales and exports. He recalls fruit disease issues and describes the spray shed and chemicals used. He mentions fruit picking, grading/packing, planting of grapes from the Averill brothers. Lionel comments on the quality of wine produced during the 1940s. He recalls making wine at his uncle's winery, changes in wine tasting and physical changes to the Lincoln Road area. He recalls the Averill family boarding house in Waiatarua. He mentions threshing clover seed to supplement income, the production of sherry and port, and import restrictions lifted in the late 1940s. Lionel describes changes within the wine industry - the type of grapes and wines, the changing market, the financial risk, and wine making in general.

Born in 1921, Lionel Collard's parents purchased land on Lincoln Road in 1910 where they planted an orchard. Grapes were planted in the 1940s as part of the orchard and the wine was made at his uncle's winery - a practice that continued until Averill sold out to Penfold in 1963. By the mid 1970s, all fruit trees had been removed and Collards was operating 100% as a vineyard and winery.