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Originally Posted by phillyesq

I never said it would. But I think that many of the anti-Wallace crowd underestimate his production and his impact. And those are his numbers from a down year. Despite the down year, Wallace is still #4 among active WRs in YPC despite catching more balls than many guys on that list.

If Wallace is so easy to replace with just any fast guy, why aren't there track guys all over the league putting up the numbers he did over the last few years?

He's a flawed player, but not nearly as bad as his detractors make him out to be.

most of the anti-Wallace crowd are actually anti-overpaying Wallace...

We don't know if Wallace is easy to replace but the main reason Wallace is successful is due to Ben extending plays. We have no idea if Wallace can perform in Miami with Tannehill throwing to him. Hell, even if you put him on a team with Manning, Brees or Rodgers it's a toss up. Can Wallace catch passes in traffic while draped? Can he catch timing patterns where Manning has the ball in the air before he breaks?

His strength is the go route and unless he gets with a QB who has the perfect pass I think we are going to see Wallace turn into a Nate Washington. A decent WR on a scrub team.

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Originally Posted by feltdizz

most of the anti-Wallace crowd are actually anti-overpaying Wallace...

We don't know if Wallace is easy to replace but the main reason Wallace is successful is due to Ben extending plays. We have no idea if Wallace can perform in Miami with Tannehill throwing to him. Hell, even if you put him on a team with Manning, Brees or Rodgers it's a toss up. Can Wallace catch passes in traffic while draped? Can he catch timing patterns where Manning has the ball in the air before he breaks?

His strength is the go route and unless he gets with a QB who has the perfect pass I think we are going to see Wallace turn into a Nate Washington. A decent WR on a scrub team.

I don't want to overpay Wallace, either. But I think that many of the "anti-Wallace" posters think the team will automatically be better off without him, which isn't the case.

He will probably be overpaid by somebody, but the offense will be worse without him. Perhaps that can be helped through the draft, but that then precludes the team from addressing another area.

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If catching TD's was the only criteria for a WR you would have a point... but first downs, punt returns (when they aren't called back), being a good teammate all play a role.

we tried to offer Wallace a contract....

Punt returns are NOT a criteria for a player that doesn't do that. Wallace can't be compared to Brown on that basis. Heck, AB got the fat contract and still stunk up the season, costing the team when it counted more than once.

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Read on ProFootballTalk that Minnesota Vikings say he really ran in the high 4.3s. Still, that is fast. But, it is no 4.19. Prodays are notorious for these sorts of stories.

Thanks for posting the video. He looks interesting.

Yep...another scout had him not once under 4.3. But personally I like guys like Terrence Williams (4.52), and DeAndre Hopkins (4.57). They dont time fast but they play fast. And are pretty polished receivers at this point.

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dude ran a 4.19 40 today at the Minnesota pro day (he played at Northern Iowa).

He's got great speed and adjusts to the ball much better than Wallace does. He looks like a true receiver with speed, not just a really fast guy.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMRdpwdoUxI[/url]

If he ran at the combine, no way would he have run a 4.19. Every time the went with the hand held times, they were always so much quicker than the official combine times. I bet that same player would run a 4.3 plus. There were so many times when the crew announced someone running a record/near-record time, and when it became official the time was much slower.

That being said, this kid is still super fast. Plus, the music playing in that video was really quality and not just a bunch of complete noise and trash.