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You're going to lose some gains during/after pct no matter what but you'll definitely lose more with a cut. If you want to lose bodyfat while eating at maintenance in pct, I'd suggest ostarine and GW (cardarine)

You're going to lose some gains during/after pct no matter what but you'll definitely lose more with a cut. If you want to lose bodyfat while eating at maintenance in pct, I'd suggest ostarine and GW (cardarine)

So I can lose the bf to where I want it to be by just eating at maintenance and taking oastarine and gw?

Well my goal is to gain a good amount of mass and ultimately reach 8 % bodyfat. I'm at 28 % bf atm. Some people suggest to cut to then bulk but I just dont see the sense in that. If im going to cut eventually why not just bulk to where I want then cut to the desirable % of bf. Right? Or would I be better off cutting then using a lean mass steroid to limit bf gain?

I'm not. I'm just trying to prepare my self to take the necessary steps.

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you gaining or losing weight has nothing to do with the gear.. It has everything to do with diet. If you are eating clean and working at a calorie deficit Gears keep you from losing muscle. Gaining muscle and losing weight has everything to do with macros.

Having said that people trying to cut usually use short ester stuff.

What are your stats? Age, weight, height, bf%, and cycle experience.

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you gaining or losing weight has nothing to do with the gear.. It has everything to do with diet. If you are eating clean and working at a calorie deficit Gears keep you from losing muscle. Gaining muscle and losing weight has everything to do with macros.

Having said that people trying to cut usually use short ester stuff.

What are your stats? Age, weight, height, bf%, and cycle experience.

Whats the rest?

Originally Posted by FreeWeights4life

Currently bulking no cycle as of yet. 40/35/25. If I were to cut it would go 40/40/20. Would macros be different while under vs when your no longer under them?

Those are percentages. But it doesn't matter. Point is if your educated enough to successfully cut and bulk with out gears you will have no problem doing it on cycle especially cause your first cycle should be just test. and test is great for both cutting and bulking.

But to answer your original questions again I would definitely not go on a huge bulker and then pct and cut nattyish.

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Those are percentages. But it doesn't matter. Point is if your educated enough to successfully cut and bulk with out gears you will have no problem doing it on cycle especially cause your first cycle should be just test. and test is great for both cutting and bulking.

But to answer your original questions again I would definitely not go on a huge bulker and then pct and cut nattyish.

Test is what I had in mind. Some 500-600 mg per week. All I need is to be able to find that much now lol. Do you think an AI would be required for such dose? I've been diagnosed with hypogonadism. Therefore under a 150 ml of test every two weeks. Hoping to get bumped to 150 per week instead.