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Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:22:39 +0000http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2hourly1By: Wait-a-Minutehttp://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/2011/06/cup-runs-through-florida.html/comment-page-1#comment-18912
Wait-a-MinuteSun, 05 Jun 2011 15:21:16 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18912Poor Rick Dudley, who just can't buy a break. He gets hired in Atlanta to rebuild their franchise and one year later the Thrashers are sold and he's out of job. Same thing basically happened in Florida, where he took over the GM spot from Fletcher, fired Keenan and set out to rebuild the Panthers as a puck possession team, only to be dumped the next year when the Panthers turned the tables on him and gave Keenan his GM job in a power struggle orchestrated by Jacques Martin who flatly said he wouldn't take the job if Dudley was GM and wanted his old pal Iron Mike.
Take note that way back before the lockout season, Dudley correctly foresaw the changes in rules that put even more emphasis on puck possession as a key to success. Flash forward to the interview with new Panthers head coach Kevin Dineen who said "I'm a believer in puck possession and like the idea we have the puck on our stick."Poor Rick Dudley, who just can’t buy a break. He gets hired in Atlanta to rebuild their franchise and one year later the Thrashers are sold and he’s out of job. Same thing basically happened in Florida, where he took over the GM spot from Fletcher, fired Keenan and set out to rebuild the Panthers as a puck possession team, only to be dumped the next year when the Panthers turned the tables on him and gave Keenan his GM job in a power struggle orchestrated by Jacques Martin who flatly said he wouldn’t take the job if Dudley was GM and wanted his old pal Iron Mike.

Take note that way back before the lockout season, Dudley correctly foresaw the changes in rules that put even more emphasis on puck possession as a key to success. Flash forward to the interview with new Panthers head coach Kevin Dineen who said “I’m a believer in puck possession and like the idea we have the puck on our stick.”

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Orig Former FanSat, 04 Jun 2011 16:28:14 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18911June 2014
Panthers General Manager Search Heats Up.
Sunrise, FL - Panthers & SSE COO Yackmark says the serch continues for Dale Tallon's replacement, and the new GM will then conduct a thorough head coaching search.
These vacancies occured when former GM Tallon, and former coach Kevin Dineen, abruptly resigned in April, after failing to improve the Panthers to any level of respectability. The final straw, according to sources, was Yackmark's big Juraj Kolnik & Stanley C Den Of Honor Induction Night,
when Tallon & Dineen were forced to wear clown suits & ice skate with the Panther Patrol shooting cheap t-shirts over the glass to Ranger Fans.
The Panthers have now failed to qualify for the Playoffs in 14 years, which is unprecedented in all sports, even minor league sports.
Yackmark says he has a blueprint for rebuilding the right way this timeJune 2014

Panthers General Manager Search Heats Up.

Sunrise, FL – Panthers & SSE COO Yackmark says the serch continues for Dale Tallon’s replacement, and the new GM will then conduct a thorough head coaching search.

These vacancies occured when former GM Tallon, and former coach Kevin Dineen, abruptly resigned in April, after failing to improve the Panthers to any level of respectability. The final straw, according to sources, was Yackmark’s big Juraj Kolnik & Stanley C Den Of Honor Induction Night,
when Tallon & Dineen were forced to wear clown suits & ice skate with the Panther Patrol shooting cheap t-shirts over the glass to Ranger Fans.

The Panthers have now failed to qualify for the Playoffs in 14 years, which is unprecedented in all sports, even minor league sports.

Yackmark says he has a blueprint for rebuilding the right way this time

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So Cal Former FanSat, 04 Jun 2011 16:06:39 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18910RE: "brand image"
West of, say, Tampa, no one even knows the panthers still exist
(which is debatable anyway)
Kings, Ducks, Sharks fans, transplanted Easterners.
When I say I used to be a Panther fan, they chuckle, look confused, think for a moment, then go: "oh yeah that team with the rats, do they still exist"?
I'm like, yeah that was 15 years ago.
Now I say I'm from Florida, and I'm a Lightning fan.
I can participate in hockey conversations with some dignity.
My original 1993 Panther jersey has been in a moving box since 05.
Good work Yackmark, way to build the brand.
And when is Chico's Bail Bonds Appreciation Night?RE: “brand image”

West of, say, Tampa, no one even knows the panthers still exist
(which is debatable anyway)

Kings, Ducks, Sharks fans, transplanted Easterners.

When I say I used to be a Panther fan, they chuckle, look confused, think for a moment, then go: “oh yeah that team with the rats, do they still exist”?
I’m like, yeah that was 15 years ago.

Now I say I’m from Florida, and I’m a Lightning fan.
I can participate in hockey conversations with some dignity.

My original 1993 Panther jersey has been in a moving box since 05.

Good work Yackmark, way to build the brand.
And when is Chico’s Bail Bonds Appreciation Night?

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Joe SSat, 04 Jun 2011 15:50:13 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18909This is EXACTLY back to Cohen - Keenan arrangements not to spend a penny more with the difference that this management is willing to play that game.
Sexton tried to change this crap and do something, he built around Ballard, Horton but nobody wanted to win here. That will not change!This is EXACTLY back to Cohen – Keenan arrangements not to spend a penny more with the difference that this management is willing to play that game.
Sexton tried to change this crap and do something, he built around Ballard, Horton but nobody wanted to win here. That will not change!
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Drew Z.Sat, 04 Jun 2011 04:05:47 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18908It would be awesome if people stopped comparing South Florida to Atlanta. I used to live in Atlanta, I love that city but I love it because it ISN'T South Florida. I remember going to a Thrashers game against the Canadians back in March 2007, that was their one playoff year, they had a decent team and there was NOBODY in the building. In fact, I went to scalp tickets and I accidentally bought a ticket for the SEC basketball game going on at the Georgia Dome next door. That would never happen here, we have too many snowbirds and that is what is going to keep this team here forever. Sadly, that is also the reason we may never have a truly competitive team. Because of those fans, the owners know we will never have to be great, they can make enough money just putting a team on the ice and taking the other teams money living out their cushy lease. This team is a license to print money, if this ownership group should falter, there would be another waiting to pounce, that is something else Atlanta didn't have.
The other thing about Atlanta is that they have a very successful ECHL team in Duluth (that would be the equivalent of having a really good ECHL team in Boca Raton). The average suburban family can go to a game that is cheaper and closer to home without having to deal with Atlanta traffic. That had more to do with the death of the Thrashers than anything. We'll never have NO hockey down here, this market is too full of hockey fans with expendable income. If a perfect storm happened where we lost our NHL team the AHL or ECHL would make short work out of putting another team here. Also, lose our team to where, I ask you? Look at MLB 10 years ago, they expanded into all the open markets then they held DC over the head of owners to leverage new stadiums then once they dropped that hammer teams stopped getting threatened. Now the NHL doesn't have that ace in the hole, there is maybe one NHL ready market (arena, existing fanbase, enough population to keep a team) in North America and that is KC. Nowhere else do you see an NHL caliber facility sitting empty and at the ready.It would be awesome if people stopped comparing South Florida to Atlanta. I used to live in Atlanta, I love that city but I love it because it ISN’T South Florida. I remember going to a Thrashers game against the Canadians back in March 2007, that was their one playoff year, they had a decent team and there was NOBODY in the building. In fact, I went to scalp tickets and I accidentally bought a ticket for the SEC basketball game going on at the Georgia Dome next door. That would never happen here, we have too many snowbirds and that is what is going to keep this team here forever. Sadly, that is also the reason we may never have a truly competitive team. Because of those fans, the owners know we will never have to be great, they can make enough money just putting a team on the ice and taking the other teams money living out their cushy lease. This team is a license to print money, if this ownership group should falter, there would be another waiting to pounce, that is something else Atlanta didn’t have.

The other thing about Atlanta is that they have a very successful ECHL team in Duluth (that would be the equivalent of having a really good ECHL team in Boca Raton). The average suburban family can go to a game that is cheaper and closer to home without having to deal with Atlanta traffic. That had more to do with the death of the Thrashers than anything. We’ll never have NO hockey down here, this market is too full of hockey fans with expendable income. If a perfect storm happened where we lost our NHL team the AHL or ECHL would make short work out of putting another team here. Also, lose our team to where, I ask you? Look at MLB 10 years ago, they expanded into all the open markets then they held DC over the head of owners to leverage new stadiums then once they dropped that hammer teams stopped getting threatened. Now the NHL doesn’t have that ace in the hole, there is maybe one NHL ready market (arena, existing fanbase, enough population to keep a team) in North America and that is KC. Nowhere else do you see an NHL caliber facility sitting empty and at the ready.

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Deep StickSat, 04 Jun 2011 03:33:24 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18907What is this telling you that the 2 top picks last year don't make the team? Horton wasted-Ballard wasted...watch they'll push down your throat the 3rd pick last year and the cheapest. I have no interest watching the draft because they are not looking for someone to help right a way. They'll go for the 5th rated cheaper and ready to play in 3 years from now!What is this telling you that the 2 top picks last year don’t make the team? Horton wasted-Ballard wasted…watch they’ll push down your throat the 3rd pick last year and the cheapest. I have no interest watching the draft because they are not looking for someone to help right a way. They’ll go for the 5th rated cheaper and ready to play in 3 years from now!
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Deep StickSat, 04 Jun 2011 03:24:56 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18906KakAtlantic Center ?KakAtlantic Center ?
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Former STHSat, 04 Jun 2011 00:13:59 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18905It's simple math, Panthers reach 85 points in a season and I renew. Didn't happen this year so I didn't renew. I'm always for giving new management a chance and Tallon is making the most of it. Drop the Grabner issue, even he understood why he didn't make the team and maybe it was all a plan to get out of Florida, only Grabner knows. It was also a statement that if you don't show up to training camp prepared you will be out. I'm not happy with the Gudbranson deal, I understand holding back last year and we want that extra year when he's more mature but come on man, when Huizenga had any sports team, he would fly these guys in on the private jet, chopper them in to the site, dazzle them with how great it would be to join the team and then it was off to his private golf course in Stuart. He had the sale down to a science. You start acting like a 1st class organization and you'll attract 1st class talent. The perception I see is Gudbranson is being treated like the red headed step child. Is the goal to crush his confidence before he even gets here?It’s simple math, Panthers reach 85 points in a season and I renew. Didn’t happen this year so I didn’t renew. I’m always for giving new management a chance and Tallon is making the most of it. Drop the Grabner issue, even he understood why he didn’t make the team and maybe it was all a plan to get out of Florida, only Grabner knows. It was also a statement that if you don’t show up to training camp prepared you will be out. I’m not happy with the Gudbranson deal, I understand holding back last year and we want that extra year when he’s more mature but come on man, when Huizenga had any sports team, he would fly these guys in on the private jet, chopper them in to the site, dazzle them with how great it would be to join the team and then it was off to his private golf course in Stuart. He had the sale down to a science. You start acting like a 1st class organization and you’ll attract 1st class talent. The perception I see is Gudbranson is being treated like the red headed step child. Is the goal to crush his confidence before he even gets here?
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New Years Eve GuyFri, 03 Jun 2011 18:59:10 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18903Hey RB...
BAD hockey is still better than NO hockey. How do you think real hockey fans in Atlanta feel right now. They've lost two teams in the last 30 years because of negativity just like that. Yes, everyone would love to see a winning team and Yes, we haven't had one "since the 21st century was four months old", but at least we have hockey. Don't think of this as a toke off the company hookah either. I want a good team, I want to see the team skate the cup in Sunrise and (like the Red Sox fan I am) get ready for every new season with a clean slate and the best of intentions to go to every game and watch the team win. Will it happen? For the Sox it took 90 some years, I'm confident that even with our team's management and front office it won't take that long. Who knows, maybe this is the year. But, at least we have a team to rally around, bitch about and openly discuss here on the offseason (brought to you by Jetblue) blog. When our team pulls up stakes and moves to Podunk, Canada what will we bitch about then? I for one don't want to see that happen, so I plunk down my money and sit in my season seats. I enjoy the in-arena experience and the shameless promotions for SSE and the hoopla surrounding the events that get other non-hockey fans involved in the team. I'm glad to see the team helping kids and the foundation helping the community, and then voila...kids are playing street hockey in the cul-de-sac at the end of the street. CAR! Game on! It aint all that bad. So we support, and we hope. That's what makes us fans. Negativity, nobody has time for it.Hey RB…

BAD hockey is still better than NO hockey. How do you think real hockey fans in Atlanta feel right now. They’ve lost two teams in the last 30 years because of negativity just like that. Yes, everyone would love to see a winning team and Yes, we haven’t had one “since the 21st century was four months old”, but at least we have hockey. Don’t think of this as a toke off the company hookah either. I want a good team, I want to see the team skate the cup in Sunrise and (like the Red Sox fan I am) get ready for every new season with a clean slate and the best of intentions to go to every game and watch the team win. Will it happen? For the Sox it took 90 some years, I’m confident that even with our team’s management and front office it won’t take that long. Who knows, maybe this is the year. But, at least we have a team to rally around, bitch about and openly discuss here on the offseason (brought to you by Jetblue) blog. When our team pulls up stakes and moves to Podunk, Canada what will we bitch about then? I for one don’t want to see that happen, so I plunk down my money and sit in my season seats. I enjoy the in-arena experience and the shameless promotions for SSE and the hoopla surrounding the events that get other non-hockey fans involved in the team. I’m glad to see the team helping kids and the foundation helping the community, and then voila…kids are playing street hockey in the cul-de-sac at the end of the street. CAR! Game on! It aint all that bad. So we support, and we hope. That’s what makes us fans. Negativity, nobody has time for it.

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RED BARONFri, 03 Jun 2011 18:12:42 +0000http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/?p=3046#comment-18902Florida doesn't care about the Cup. Not once have I heard it being mentioned by Tallon, Yormark, Viner, or any of the other clowns aboard the Panther ship of fools. Instead we hear about EVERYTHING else. They rant and rave about the Panthers brand image, in-game entertainment, concerts, shows, eateries, fake blueprints, and all the silly stuff hockey fans don't give two craps about. If any Florida player wants to win the Cup, they should start making plans to head for another team. It ain't happenin here. At least, not under this ownership.Florida doesn’t care about the Cup. Not once have I heard it being mentioned by Tallon, Yormark, Viner, or any of the other clowns aboard the Panther ship of fools. Instead we hear about EVERYTHING else. They rant and rave about the Panthers brand image, in-game entertainment, concerts, shows, eateries, fake blueprints, and all the silly stuff hockey fans don’t give two craps about. If any Florida player wants to win the Cup, they should start making plans to head for another team. It ain’t happenin here. At least, not under this ownership.
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