Pay close attention to the new sensor in the Canon EOS SL1 as far as performance goes. We’re told this sensor will appear in the EOS 70D, but not the EOS 7D Mark II.

Ok, Canon has just mutilated the potential of the 70D to sell well.

LOL.. if canon has proved one thing over and over again it is that they can sell even old bread well.

what people on this forum think has absolutely no influence on the mass market.actually it´s sad because i too would like to see canon make more progess on image quality.

not that canon cameras make bad quality images.. just that IQ has not much improved over the last years.

Correction: Canon's IQ hasn't changed or improved over the last years for anything besides those moving from the 1D series to the 1DX. Nikon, Sony, Pentax, are all delivering new sensors with better performance.

What is Canon doing?

Nothing. What a joke of a company.

They make nearly a $1 billion in operating profit. Hardly call that a joke. Keep in mind that most purchasers of the low end cameras want very basic functions (I doubt many even shoot in raw) so current technology is good enough for them

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

Oh I understand well how Canon is really a conservative company and they are more responsible to their stakeholders. The company understands the market better than the competition. How else can they be a market leader? Not to say Canon makes poor products but a release like the 700d really has no reason to exist IMHO but to squeeze that sensor for everything it's worth while offering subtle changes. The low-end DSLR's are their bread and butter. Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative. I like their move with the 100D though.

I'm a Rebel user but I'm one of those on the fence to move up to the 70D or 6D, maybe even the 7D2. I'm hoping the 70D will have a noticeable IQ improvement. Otherwise may just go with the 6D.

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Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

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Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

Ummmm there are a bunch of reviews and comparisons on the net which for most is the easiest source of information. Let's face it a lot of people would just go to Google and type whatever criteria they want like "which is the best camera for under $1000 and so on." Sure Canon will still make a killing and that's the sad part as long as they profit I see no reason why they will take risks in certain market segments. As much as I think other companies may have better features and innovation at a particular class or price point, I haven't had any problems with the Canon products I've had. That's why despite some gripes I won't be going anywhere else.

Pay close attention to the new sensor in the Canon EOS SL1 as far as performance goes. We’re told this sensor will appear in the EOS 70D, but not the EOS 7D Mark II.

Ok, Canon has just mutilated the potential of the 70D to sell well.

LOL.. if canon has proved one thing over and over again it is that they can sell even old bread well.

what people on this forum think has absolutely no influence on the mass market.actually it´s sad because i too would like to see canon make more progess on image quality.

not that canon cameras make bad quality images.. just that IQ has not much improved over the last years.

Correction: Canon's IQ hasn't changed or improved over the last years for anything besides those moving from the 1D series to the 1DX. Nikon, Sony, Pentax, are all delivering new sensors with better performance.

What is Canon doing?

Nothing. What a joke of a company.

They make nearly a $1 billion in operating profit. Hardly call that a joke. Keep in mind that most purchasers of the low end cameras want very basic functions (I doubt many even shoot in raw) so current technology is good enough for them

Hi, Totally agree... many people are happy with the image taken from their mobile, so image from any Canon entry level DSLR will be wow to them. IMHO, the selling point of Canon DSLR is easy to use and that will make a big different when choosing their first DSLR.

Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

I have given those reviews to friends. That happens often to me, I know about cameras so my friends ask me what camera they should get. A few months ago a friend told me she was going to get a 7D and i asked her why and it was bc she wanted a good camera. She does most indoor studio work.... so long story short... she shoots a Nikon 600.

Pay close attention to the new sensor in the Canon EOS SL1 as far as performance goes.

I am for certain paying attention to that. Wondering if Canon has really made a significant change to their APS-C sensor or not. That little SL1 might be a pretty versatile little body for use on a telescope, since it's so small and light. Not quite like a dedicated astrophotography tool, but something that the "weekend duffer" with a decent telescope could use.