Barack Obama says he won the 2012 presidential election, Mitt Romney conceded and the Electoral College electors are scheduled to meet on Dec. 17 to cast the votes that officially will choose a name for the presidency. But what really happened? Here is the BIG LIST of reports that document voting irregularities and apparent fraud during the 2012 presidential tabulation.

Is there any chance at all of prosecution and punishment for stealing the election? The consequences of 4 more years of steadily dismantling the US are dire not only for the US but for the world at large in terms of freedom and finances and probably a lot of other things.

Agree, DD; but also need to focus on 2014, to win the Senate and maintain the House.

I have checked into several internet allegations of voter fraud in another thread. So far, I have not been able to verify any of them. While there may be some voter fraud someplace, so far this is turning out to be a post-election urban legend.

To win any of the next elections will require cool reflection and calm analysis of the actual results. It takes listening to those who don't agree with you. This is not something that Americans are all that good at doing these days.

I have checked into several internet allegations of voter fraud in another thread. So far, I have not been able to verify any of them. While there may be some voter fraud someplace, so far this is turning out to be a post-election urban legend.

To win any of the next elections will require cool reflection and calm analysis of the actual results. It takes listening to those who don't agree with you. This is not something that Americans are all that good at doing these days.

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Bull s**t. There was extensive voter fraud. Probably enough to turn the election.

You could be right Double D, but so far non of the stories have held up.

Be cool my friend. Remember, we are all in this boat for the 2nd Amendment.

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Yea, after this liberal lunatic appoints 2-3 more liberal lunatics to the supreme courts, you might as well forget there ever was such a thing as the 2nd amendment.....people will be marrying animals and we will have heroin stores on every corner and the UN will be patroling the streets.

To win any of the next elections will require cool reflection and calm analysis of the actual results. It takes listening to those who don't agree with you. This is not something that Americans are all that good at doing these days.

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Ever since the election I have been listening to liberal pundits discussing what the republican party needs to do to appeal to voters. Why should the party's agenda be determined with the advice of those who don't share their values? There has already been too much compromise in my opinion. That's why I'm no longer a republican.

Trouble with the political parties over here (there are 3-4 major parties) is that they are all tarred with the same brush. They have the same views, to all intents and purposes. All are liberal, even the conservatives. There are differences among the parties, but none in the areas that matter to me. All too frequently they will come up with candidate promises that get pushed under the carpet once elected.

Any truely conservative candidates would be either ignored or crucified by the media.

But there needs to be a real difference between fighting for traditional values and pushing the liberal agenda, especially in the political arena. In the UK and in the US.

Trouble with the political parties over here (there are 3-4 major parties) is that they are all tarred with the same brush. They have the same views, to all intents and purposes. All are liberal, even the conservatives. There are differences among the parties, but none in the areas that matter to me. All too frequently they will come up with candidate promises that get pushed under the carpet once elected.

Any truely conservative candidates would be either ignored or crucified by the media.

But there needs to be a real difference between fighting for traditional values and pushing the liberal agenda, especially in the political arena. In the UK and in the US.

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And I suppose a few people (with lots of money) are pulling the levers which make the circus go round and round?

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