Notes: Recovery is still stupid. Even 10x10 I feel great. I should do 10x10 real heavy, that would get me sore lol... With all these logs, and everyone saying recovery has been insane, where has all the discussion regarding PF3 gone? I would have thought some people would be calling BS by now

- I only used Alphamine for Pre, no pump product. However my pump was great. I usually don't get that good of a pump w/o a pre. I did have a lot of carbs sat/sun/mon so that could play a role I suppose

I will be adding in the Lucine now that I know how my recovery etc is with PF3

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Notes: Recovery is still stupid. Even 10x10 I feel great. I should do 10x10 real heavy, that would get me sore lol... With all these logs, and everyone saying recovery has been insane, where has all the discussion regarding PF3 gone? I would have thought some people would be calling BS by now

- I only used Alphamine for Pre, no pump product. However my pump was great. I usually don't get that good of a pump w/o a pre. I did have a lot of carbs sat/sun/mon so that could play a role I suppose

I will be adding in the Lucine now that I know how my recovery etc is with PF3

Discussion is one thing; attacks are another. What's to discuss when the consensus seems to be that PF3 aids tremendously in recovery? Try that heavy 10 x 10 and see if you can push through it. You know you want to!

I had to really fight to get 10 reps for so many sets. I was pausing for a bit. Pump in arms/shoulders/tris/and chest came on real fast within first 2 sets!

Cable Crossovers 10x10 42lbs <--- I was already feeling it big time here, my form kinda sucked, but I pushed through
SS w/ vbar pushdowns 10x10 85lbs I tried doing 125 for 10x10, but that wasn't going to happen

Pushups 5x failure I was failing by 3-5 reps easily

SS w/ one arm cable pushdowns 5x10 22lbs Did these just so I could stare at the pump in my tris

Not as much volume as I wanted to do. I probably should have done 1 plate per side on my presses. The pump I got right off the bat was insane. I love High Volume and PF3 seems to really make it shine even more.

I feel like I worked out, however I'm not really that sore lol.

I so want to do squats, since I always have bad doms for like 4 days. I want to see how much PF3 will reduce it. Only prob is for anyone who followed my last log, I still am dealing with a problem with inner ankle area. I probably should go to DR, but I don't want to lol.

It happened when my 300 dumb self thought it would be smart to do jump rope between each set of exercises for a week straight. I had to have strained/or fractured something. It has been over 2 months

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Sat: Did some yard work and then my wife talked me into painting our master bedroom. We have had the paint for a year now, I guess I put it off long enough.

Up and down the ladder, plus all the brush strokes. I had a nice pump going lol.

Notes: One thing I notice on PF3.. I have had a horrible diet since vacation, between football coming back, apple cider donuts, etc I have ate like crap. However, my veins are more visible at current bodyweight 306, than they were at 295 while on test booster/AI. They show up nicely even on days when I don't use a pre. Thoughts?

Recovery still seems faster on PF3. I had great recovery on Versa-1, and PF3 seems even better in that department.

Awesome update! I feel the same way about the vascularity and staying more lean despite food issues. I have my diet pretty dialed in, but I'm still attempting to taper down from a bulk mode to a steady recomp and eventually a cut. Taking PF3 is making it hard to drop the calories

Sat: Did some yard work and then my wife talked me into painting our master bedroom. We have had the paint for a year now, I guess I put it off long enough.

Up and down the ladder, plus all the brush strokes. I had a nice pump going lol.

Notes: One thing I notice on PF3.. I have had a horrible diet since vacation, between football coming back, apple cider donuts, etc I have ate like crap. However, my veins are more visible at current bodyweight 306, than they were at 295 while on test booster/AI. They show up nicely even on days when I don't use a pre. Thoughts?

Recovery still seems faster on PF3. I had great recovery on Versa-1, and PF3 seems even better in that department.

Awesome update! I feel the same way about the vascularity and staying more lean despite food issues. I have my diet pretty dialed in, but I'm still attempting to taper down from a bulk mode to a steady recomp and eventually a cut. Taking PF3 is making it hard to drop the calories

I am always in bulk mode lmao. My family has a ton of addictions, mine is food. It's great that I'm not an alcoholic, but it sucks I'm fat lol.

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Thanks. It's actually a little lower volume than I'm used to. I need to step it up.

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Large volume just doesn't work for me.....heavy sets, 3-4 movements and I'm trashed.....

I prefer that way as well heavy, few movements.

It's just since I am always struggling to lose weight, because my eating habits suck, I tend to do lots of movements, with very little rest in between.

I make myself so mad, because I have gone from 320lbs all the way to 180lbs before. It's just the last few years I have set my goal at 240, and can never get below 290. I have some mental block going on.

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Legs: Again left ankle is really jacked up, I should probably see doctor soon if it doesn't get better

I copied a workout I did early last month. The last time I did this I was so sore, that I had a hard time getting up and down stairs, out of bed, off couch etc for 2.5 days. Yes I know if I worked legs more, I would get used to it lol.

I can already say PF3 seemed to reduce more soreness by 50% easily. Just feels like normal soreness.

PF3 Pre/Intra/Post

I have been off all other supps for over 2 weeks now, and I still seem more vascular. Something in PF3 is working, and honestly I really don't care how or why. Only thing that sucks for me, is with the recent surgeries my wife has had to undergo, PF3 is out of my price point for now.

Leg Press Sled: All these include the starting weight of the sled. For instance 202lbs is 1 plate per side + Sled

I am always in bulk mode lmao. My family has a ton of addictions, mine is food. It's great that I'm not an alcoholic, but it sucks I'm fat lol.

LOL, I know this feel too.

I've gone from being about 335 lbs. down to where I am now at 225 since March of 2011. I went from being a food addict to being an OCD food manager, to finally accepting that it is OK to eat but still keep meticulous track of everything. LOL, I joke that I am recovering from an eating disorder, but it's sadly not far from the truth!

Legs: Again left ankle is really jacked up, I should probably see doctor soon if it doesn't get better

I copied a workout I did early last month. The last time I did this I was so sore, that I had a hard time getting up and down stairs, out of bed, off couch etc for 2.5 days. Yes I know if I worked legs more, I would get used to it lol.

I can already say PF3 seemed to reduce more soreness by 50% easily. Just feels like normal soreness.

PF3 Pre/Intra/Post

I have been off all other supps for over 2 weeks now, and I still seem more vascular. Something in PF3 is working, and honestly I really don't care how or why. Only thing that sucks for me, is with the recent surgeries my wife has had to undergo, PF3 is out of my price point for now.

Leg Press Sled: All these include the starting weight of the sled. For instance 202lbs is 1 plate per side + Sled

Notes: The PF3/ High Volume combo had my whole upper body pumped. While doing face pulls, my bi's were pumped like crazy, and I was making sure to leave them relaxed so I wasn't using too much are movement

- Hate to sound like broken record, but recovery is great
- Still no GI issue

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Notes: The PF3/ High Volume combo had my whole upper body pumped. While doing face pulls, my bi's were pumped like crazy, and I was making sure to leave them relaxed so I wasn't using too much are movement

- Hate to sound like broken record, but recovery is great
- Still no GI issue

Awesome recovery and PF3 go hand in hand

Definitely have to agree on the pumps being awesome. Tried working out without PF3 pre-training, pumps were not as good

glad you've been benefiting from this bro.

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