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A new videotape has surfaced featuring Osama bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and an American member of al Qaeda wanted by the FBI, according to a counterterrorism expert.

The tape, called "Invitation to Islam," runs 48 minutes, expert Laura Mansfield said. Al-Zawahiri speaks for about 4 minutes on the tape, and the American narrates the rest.

Gadahn says that even Americans working with President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are invited to embrace Islam, but they should hurry.

"We invite all Americans and believers to Islam, whatever their role and status in Bush and Blair's world order," Gadahn says. "Decide today, because today could be your last day."

Mansfield, who is a writer and corporate adviser on the Middle East, Islam and terrorism, said the time reference could indicate an attack is near. Muslims believe that non-believers should be given a chance to convert before they are attacked, Mansfield said.

'There is much to learn from the British: their reticence about disclosing details, their clear expertise in human intelligence, their non-hysterical reaction to very real threats. Many Americans may have an inferiority complex about things British -- the refinement, the style and, of course, those accents' -

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Eh? Maturity? Like us grown men surfing the net and hanging out in a virtual NAAFI at all hours of the day? When we should be doing real stuff like painting walls or moving furniture or even talking to girls ?

Are you alright Lancslad? Humidity getting to you?

'There is much to learn from the British: their reticence about disclosing details, their clear expertise in human intelligence, their non-hysterical reaction to very real threats. Many Americans may have an inferiority complex about things British -- the refinement, the style and, of course, those accents' -

MIA

Eh? Maturity? Like us grown men surfing the net and hanging out in a virtual NAAFI at all hours of the day? When we should be doing real stuff like painting walls or moving furniture or even talking to girls ?

Old-Salt

Eh? Maturity? Like us grown men surfing the net and hanging out in a virtual NAAFI at all hours of the day? When we should be doing real stuff like painting walls or moving furniture or even talking to girls ?

I'm 42 years-old and I can see nothing particularly immature in CJ's response, so why try to play the big man and patronise him just because he's 17, the lucky sod? What would constitute a mature response to this "offer", anyway?

MIA

Whilst a mass change from Christianity to Islam in Great Britain is just japati in the sky we could use aspects of Sharia law to control the sh!te that walk our streets though.

Stealing - Hands off;

Rape - B0ll0cks off;

Paedophiles - Hang the bastards from a crane.

Disrespect to OAPs and queue jumping at Bus Stops: Legs broken first offence - lopped off for second.

If someone really does want to get stoned with drugs let them get stoned the alternative way - hole in the ground, heads poking out and a good supply of hardcore nearby.

This would sort the problems out overnight, no doubt [and bloody good fun to boot].

You could even turn this into a public spectacle and have a local round-up and lop off before a footy match or other sporting occasion by aggrieved parties. Think of the trade for DiY shops in Axes, Saws and suchlike - B&Q could run a 'Sharia DiY section' with some elderly Muslim shaber in charge and giving advice on best styles and cuts!

Imagine the headlines in Sporting Life:

"More stumps at the Millenium Stadium today than at Lords throughout its history."

or, the Adverts on the Underground:

Stoning of Druggies at Hyde Park tonight, rubble sponsored by local demolition companies, night sights for hire from the management of this not to be missed event.

In the US TripWire could make and supply shaped charges:

'Limbs/Gonads Blowing Off for the use of............'

If there was a last minute apppeal he could go and do his EOD bit and make them safe ..........

"Sorry Son, I'm going to take a raincheck on this one - it's about to blow."

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Crabby uses this rather nifty signature by Anne Coulter which I have always liked, admitedly she can be a wee bit too shrill at time like most women, however -

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. "

'There is much to learn from the British: their reticence about disclosing details, their clear expertise in human intelligence, their non-hysterical reaction to very real threats. Many Americans may have an inferiority complex about things British -- the refinement, the style and, of course, those accents' -

War Hero

Arent we almost there already? we have already invaded their countries, killed/arrested their leaders and are trying to convert them to democracies.....

I think drain_sniffers idea of a video is superb, what about getting Cliff Richard to head it up....now that would be amusing. Although looking at his lifestyle or peoples judgements of his lifestyle he is already half way to being Islamic.

What the Al Queda members are saying is the same rhetoric offered to Cristians during the crusades....hundreds of years later and with all this media spin about they cant even come up with something new?!!

Eh? Maturity? Like us grown men surfing the net and hanging out in a virtual NAAFI at all hours of the day? When we should be doing real stuff like painting walls or moving furniture or even talking to girls ?

I'm 42 years-old and I can see nothing particularly immature in CJ's response, so why try to play the big man and patronise him just because he's 17, the lucky sod? What would constitute a mature response to this "offer", anyway?

There is nothing big about me whatsoever & if you don't believe me ask mrs. lancslad

My precise objection was the language used by C_J i.e (& I quote)

My message to Al Queda is "fcuk you, ya fcuking fcuktards"

I'll even shout it from in-between a church and a mosque.

Racial and Religious equality is a value I hold dear. They aren't even attempting to mask their hatred and ignorance.

If someone holds such values in racial & religious equality then doing as C_J states is a wonderful way of demonstrating it...

Personally I don't believe the way to resolve our differences with Islamic Fundamentalists is by behaving in the same manner to them as they do to us. There has to be a better answer other than unilateral genocide.

lancslad

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"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin

War Hero

Why bother converting to Islam. We have the downsides, beer, bacon etc, but if we do convert will it stop any attacks. Just look at the harmony in Iraq with the Sunni's and Shi'ite's all getting along nicely.

And yes I am aware that there is more to it than that.

B011ocks to them.

This place would be a paradise tomorrow if every department had a supervisor with a sub machine gun.

On ROPS

Do you know I bet the same conversation happened between pagan Britains when Augustine was at work in Canterbury some centuries ago.

Not that you will seriously consider this but here is a question. Would you rather design, build, furnish and live in your own house, or live in one somebody else has built for you, and forces you to live within? The latter sounds like a prison more than a home.

I'm sure that this statement will seem obtuse in 2006, but I'm sure many a sailor in battle has wished he had a way to take the wind out of the 'enemies' sail.

LE

I am an athiest. I will always be an athiest. I am proud to be an athiest. I believe that the only way any of us can be free to believe what we want, is if we are all free to believe what we want.

The call to convert is simply a request for more idiots to kill themselves on his (Osama Bin Fuc?wit) behalf. I say his behalf, as it clearly has nothing to do with islam. muslims killing muslims in iraq, Afganistan, NY, london and elsewhere is absolute proof that it is nothing more than power-play.

LE

On ROPS

I am an athiest. I will always be an athiest. I am proud to be an athiest. I believe that the only way any of us can be free to believe what we want, is if we are all free to believe what we want.

The call to convert is simply a request for more idiots to kill themselves on his (Osama Bin Fuc?wit) behalf. I say his behalf, as it clearly has nothing to do with islam. muslims killing muslims in iraq, Afganistan, NY, london and elsewhere is absolute proof that it is nothing more than power-play.

Very nicely put SkiCarver. Given the millions of Muslims there are and the history of Islamic Scholars, I'm not sure murder is a recognised route to becoming a cleric. We hear talk of moderate Islam, and actually Islam is all about moderation for most muslims. Moderation of the ego, moderation of desire, etc. Since when did a small minority have the right to monopolise a faith and/or ideology.

Personally I believe that history equipped with 2020 hindsight will see Al Qaeda as an Islamic anomaly.

(P.S. Remind me some time about the semantic trick I like to play on atheists )