Hi
I'm currently editing my movie shot in HDV and I'll be doing it on Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 native. I'll probably send the timeline to After Effects CS3, render it out to uncompressed HD and then reimport it to AE to do the compositing, green screen and other effects work. I will be mastering it at 32-bit as well, so all the VFX work will be done on 32-bit uncompressed HD footage. Master will be 32-bit uncompressed TIFF Sequence. From that, I'm going to HDCAM SR (Backup), HDV (Backup) and M2V (For DVDs).

I'm not sure I need a Xeon or an i7 for this job. There is quite a bit of compositing (at least 40% of the movie), titling and some motion graphics. Do I need a graphics card at all? Will this system do the job for me or do I need to invest in a Xeon workstation and an nVidia graphics card?

It will work, but for uncompressed your storage is a bit limited. Your OS disk could be much smaller and faster, for instance a Velociraptor 150 or 300 GB. Unless you want to work blind, you need a graphics card as well as a display. An ATI 4850 might be a good card. As always, it is a matter of budget. An i7 will give you a significant performance boost and an 8-core system even more, but you pay for being on the bleeding edge.

Yeah, budget is the big key here. I don't have a ton of experience editing uncompressed, but HD in uncompressed is going to take up a HUGE amount of diskspace... You really should be considering more storage space considering how relatively cheap it is today. I also second the better video card here as I believe Premiere is able to work with them quite well - particularly the ATI branded cards... If you're going to go with a single chip quad core, might as well step that up to the next chip faster. In the case of this project, and extra $200 - $500 spent on this system could save you many hours... I'd love to hear what you end up doing and how it ends up working out..

It will work, but for uncompressed your storage is a bit limited. Your OS disk could be much smaller and faster, for instance a Velociraptor 150 or 300 GB. Unless you want to work blind, you need a graphics card as well as a display. An ATI 4850 might be a good card. As always, it is a matter of budget. An i7 will give you a significant performance boost and an 8-core system even more, but you pay for being on the bleeding edge.

Unfortunately, the i7 hasn't been released where I'm at....in India! I thought nVidia did better with AE and similar Adobe Products. Am I wrong here? I was thinking about the nVidia 8800 512MB series.

The nVidia 8800 is quite a good card. Nothing wrong with it. However, ATI currently delivers the most 'bang-for-the-buck' , especially with the 48xx series. I have never experienced problems with ATI cards in combination with Adobe software, so I can't say that nVidia is better than ATI, but I do know that nVidia cards have died more on me than ATI cards. I don't have large number statistics to prove or disprove one is better than the other. My suggestion is to get the card that has the most attractive price. In performance you will most likely not notice any difference. Your disk setup will be far more crucial for performance.

Note that for 10 bit 1080p 4:4:4, you're rolling 834 GB per hour. If you're anything like me, you'll have several partial renders on the render drive, and perhaps some alternate edits on the work drive. If I was working on a full sized movie, and thinking of working with uncompressed, I'd probably increase my sizes over what you have by a factor of 5-10. Unless you shoot and edit in the camera, you're going to be dumping a LOT of raw footage onto that work drive. Or maybe you intend to cut the entire movie before moving it from HDV into uncompressed.

Note that for 10 bit 1080p 4:4:4, you're rolling 834 GB per hour. If you're anything like me, you'll have several partial renders on the render drive, and perhaps some alternate edits on the work drive. If I was working on a full sized movie, and thinking of working with uncompressed, I'd probably increase my sizes over what you have by a factor of 5-10. Unless you shoot and edit in the camera, you're going to be dumping a LOT of raw footage onto that work drive. Or maybe you intend to cut the entire movie before moving it from HDV into uncompressed.

How are you planning to write out to an HDCamSR?

Hi
Thanks for the info. I'm editing native HDV (cuts only) and then moving it to AE CS3. Then render out the movie in uncompressed HD, reimport it in AE and work on the effects, titles, etc.

Since I'm using a high-end laptop, can I render out the movie from my laptop to an eSATA 2TB external drive? Can I use this drive to work from my laptop. The effects are mostly motion graphics, nothing fancy.

About HDCAM SR, yes I need to do it finally. But I have no idea how. Would appreciate any help I can get. I'm just going with the flow, I guess.

Forget about even a high-end laptop. Not enough muscle. You need a very beefy workstation with tons of hard disks in a raid configuration with a very good raid controller (on board is not good enough) and lots of memory.

perhaps I am missing the point here, but why would you want to go uncompressed AFTER the material has hit the tape in HDV format? The HDV codec has hit your source material and it is super compressed; decompressing is not going to give you more color space or allow the footage to look better.

The only way it would have helped going uncompressed via hdmi or hd-sdi;if you shot the footage live to a capture card and recorded it uncompressed. Otherwise, imo, it is a waste of space.

perhaps I am missing the point here, but why would you want to go uncompressed AFTER the material has hit the tape in HDV format? The HDV codec has hit your source material and it is super compressed; decompressing is not going to give you more color space or allow the footage to look better.

The only way it would have helped going uncompressed via hdmi or hd-sdi;if you shot the footage live to a capture card and recorded it uncompressed. Otherwise, imo, it is a waste of space.

Hi
I shot it on HDV on a 111E, JVC. No option of HD-SDI on that model.
I wanted to render out uncompressed HD for two reasons:
1. Color Correction and Green screen work better in HD than HDV.
2. I might get a theatrical release and want to keep my master that way.
I understand the footage is not going to look any better, but i can keep the losses at any stage to a bare minimum.