Report: Moore had LCS symptoms long before Chiefs game

TJ JohnsonNov 19, 2013 5:15 PM

There's apparently much more to the Rahim Moore story that we haven't heard. Here's what Vic Lombardi had to say earlier today (11/19 hour 2) on 104.3:

Listen to what I'm saying here. Listen to these words--there is more to this story. There is more to this story, and depending on how quickly it gets out there, it could get ugly, cause Rahim Moore was feeling pressure and pain in that lower leg area all week. It didn't happen in game time. It didn't just occur. He didn't show up Sunday night, dancing around, feeling healthy, and suddenly the leg gets banged. He was feeling that all week. Some people knew about it...

Lombardi continued:

...I don't know if he went to the trainer...he may have kept it to himself. All I know is this: fact, five days before the game, Rahim Moore complained of swelling and pressure in his lower leg. Five days. Did not know what it was. Played through it. One specific play, couldn't even push off. The pain was so mind blowing, and it was numbing at that point, [he] had to take himself off the field. Nobody diagnosed the situation, until later that night, when he took himself to the hospital. This guy could have died, could have lost a leg.

While it would be irresponsible to suggest that the Broncos are somehow negligent in their response to Rahim Moore's symptoms, one thing is quite clear: someone missed something.

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The NFL has consistently shown little regard for the welfare of their athletes. Only the most brainwashed or self deluded still dispute this. I think anybody getting hostile about members of the media asking for more information about an incredibly serious medical condition is way off base.

Posted by Yahmule on 2013-11-20 10:38:34

Once again I think I'll wait to hear from actual sources than a reporter paid to dig/assert dirt.

Posted by Lonestar47 on 2013-11-20 00:20:00

Wow...settle down. I don't think I said anything that far afield. If you actually read what I wrote, you'd see that there's no accusation that necessitates proof. Instead, there is a supposition that needs no proof, because it definitionally acknowledges uncertainty, and that supposition is based only on my impression of the report. This was pretty easy to understand if you weren't looking for some knee jerk response. But nice job anyway.

Posted by Sean on 2013-11-19 21:04:33

Accusations without a hint of proof. Nice job.

I think you're responsible, and are just trying to cover your ass. See how easy it is?

Posted by billyricky on 2013-11-19 20:56:35

This type of injury is usually associated with heavy trauma like explosions from IED's heavy accident trauma or broken bones as per the trauma doctor that was on the fan during this mornings show. Doctor was saying it would be uncommon for this to happen in a football injury. I knew a buy who got his arm broke by a horse and the doctor did not check for it even after the guy told the doctor his arm was really bothering him in his cast. Once his fingers turned pale white and he lost feeling the doctor finally got it. He lost 1/3 of his ability to use his arm so I think you have to look at all the available information before people jump on anyone. Just glad he will be ok.

Posted by akatom3565 on 2013-11-19 20:11:52

Can't blame the team unless Moore told them. But some of his terrible angles on Sunday are easier to understand now. He should not have been out there.

Posted by Alaskan on 2013-11-19 18:54:43

This looks bad initially, but NFL players suffer through plenty of pain throughout a season. Skipping from lower leg pain directly to a compartment syndrome diagnosis is a big leap.

Even if the team knew about it earlier in the week, what else would they have done? That's not a rhetorical question. I wonder if there is a battery of tests used in cases if vague, hard-to-identify sources of pain. Did he get an MRI? A CAT scan? Or did he just let the trainers know that he felt like he was playing through a strained calf or quad?

In any case, just more drama in a season full of twists and turns.

Posted by Royalwithcheese on 2013-11-19 17:42:07

Lombardi is paid to stir up the excrement. I'm not saying he's exaggerating or lying, but unless he gives sources then I'm inclined to think this is a bit of sensationalism.

Even if this is true, chances are Moore simply assumed it was a bruise or general aches & pains and didn't seek help. From personal experience, when I was in my mid-20's I aggravated a disk in my lower back playing squash. The swollen disk manifested in a case of sciatica that I attributed to a tweaked hamstring from the game, and limped around for about a week waiting for the darn thing to heal before I went to the doctor.

Remember from Doc's post that there is are multiple forms of LCS: acute, sub-acute, and chronic. If the initial issue was a chronic case that became aggravated into an acute or sub-acute case, it is hard to fault the medical staff. Unless it is sweeps week and you need some extra fodder for your radio show...

Posted by DCJ1 on 2013-11-19 17:40:35

Thing is, at that level, you're more than used to playing through the pain. Soreness, tenderness, pressure, pain - those are almost near constants even playing at an amateur level, so I'm sure it's even worse at the professional level. At some point, your brain registers that something's not right, that the pain is a little bit more than what it should be if it was just the usual.

Also, Lombardi's assertion seems to contradict earlier reports that he called Greek.

Posted by Andrew Griffin on 2013-11-19 17:31:53

I'm not saying that this is untrue or making any kind of judgment either way, but it sounds a lot like legal posturing in the event that Moore's ability to play is significantly impacted by this injury. Because I'm guessing this report came from someone in Moore's camp (like his agent) rather than anyone associated with the Broncos. Either way, I hope he gets well and is a productive safety with the Broncos for years to come.

Posted by Sean on 2013-11-19 17:28:45

Wow.

If he was having those symptoms and didn't say a word, that's a big problem.