I just want to tell the chair that—I don't have time to explain all of this, but unfortunately the second part of the meeting is business—because a colleague, whom I'm hoping we'll see before Christmas, at least, is not here, I won't be bringing up the motions again, Mr. Chairman.

Yes, it's to support family caregivers. Perhaps Ms. Beaulieu can help me answer the question.

Training is given to family caregivers. We help them because it isn't easy to take care of someone at home who is losing their faculties. The project is used to support family caregivers to help them provide proper care. Unfortunately, that's all I can tell you.

One thing is certain: this project is leading us to a much more significant project. That's the good news.

Yes. The VON is the Victorian Order of Nurses for Canada. As you mentioned, it's a service that's offered at home. The reason we connected with this organization is that we discovered, a little by chance, that there were people from minority communities who were unaware of the resources available in French. The Victorian Order of Nurses can provide services and have expertise in psychological support, and so on. So that's why it's important to develop the network and ensure that all francophones in Canada are aware of the available resources. So we don't have to reinvent the wheel.

Through the VON, we established contact with the Canadian Caregiver Coalition. When we spoke with the representatives of that coalition, we mentioned the need for francophone employees both in the agencies and among the volunteers who help people with cancer or any other kind of illness and who need care. That's why we are working with them, so they are increasingly aware that they are not always able to provide services in the language chosen. So we also want to try to make the VON aware of the importance of having employees who speak French to respond to the needs of these francophone individuals who need nursing care at home.

I lived in a rural community where there are couples who are basically separated because the person who is ill can no longer receive care at home. Patients must move to another community 15 or 20 miles away from their homes. It may not seem far to us, but for elderly people who need to take their car and do the trip in the winter, on the roads in Manitoba, it doesn't work. We need to provide better services at home.

One of the corollaries of 9/11 and the federal government's response at the time was a change in charitable status and the way in which people apply. The grandfather clause applies for groups that already had the status, but new groups can no longer.... Because we have the Black Community Resource Centre, we very clearly state as our mission and our mandate that we're serving English-speaking blacks. You cannot get charitable status if you are making a specific statement about a particular community. It has to be open to all, by implication.

In answer to Mr. Bélanger, you mentioned that in the next road map the government should describe what they think success is, and that you should have the opportunity to describe what your organization thinks success is.