Either Israel is a really bad aim or they are a really good aim. If the people of Gaza fear Israels rockets killing them, they will possibly go
against their own militants. Most wars targeted the citizens, not the governments. That is the best way to win a war, get the citizens to be scared
of you.

Yeah but I was just thinking, are they even being told about the ceasefires?
Take this for example, One of the CBC reporters
said there was no sign of a ceasefire from Israel and people still weren't leaving their homes although they had been told it's safe to do so because
of frequent strikes, water is turning into a major issue and close to no electricity...I thought hamas would work in factions so maybe 1 or 2 groups
weren't told about the ceasefire and shot at them at the wrong time?

I'm not justifying Hamas because they've killed civilians too, and I am only speculating, because that's all you can really do with matters like
this..but something does need to be done - in that article Obama says; "Ultimately, any lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict must
ensure the disarmament of terrorist groups and the demilitarization of Gaza." Basically saying it's not going to stop until Hamas is
extinct...they must realise ISIS are
there too?

a reply to: conz1992
Of course israel denies what they have done.
Just as they had originally denied this but later it is found they have lied once
again.
Once can be a mistake, maybe even twice, but this is an every time occasion.
The propaganda machine is on fire!! Run away run away!
The israelis are about to lose their last friend.
I think the US will have to place our dual citizens in concentration camps as we did the Japanese in ww2.

a reply to: Rosha
Wow that really is devastating, they're just flattening towns and to think over 100,000 people have been displaced...where have 100,000 people gone
in such a compact bit of land? And the 2 boarders are barricaded, so they don't really have a choice on where to hide. The Palastinian people
obviously doesn't want to be living in fear of theirs and their families lives, no one should ever be in these circumstances, same for people in
Israel but they have bomb shelters to go to, and Iron Dome intercepts a large majority of the bottlerockets hamas use. Hamas is the target, but Israel
are still sick f*cks for using air strikes and missles....Boots on the ground would be a much more effective way, at least you'd get the target
rather than kids or other innocent civilians. People say civilians are always the cost of a war, but this isn't a war, Gaza or Palastine don't have
an army, Hamas is a resistance force, but to the west they govern the Gaza strip, which I found weird because there is a president and a prime
minister of the gaza strip, but Hamas do not recognise them as those roles so that's just what happened?

Today eight people, including seven children, died following missile fire on a park inside the Shati refugee camp on the edge of Gaza City. Nowhere is
safe in Gaza. It's one of the most densely packed places on earth. There is nowhere to hide.

I believe that Hamas is an Israeli creation just like the "kidnapping" of the three Israeli teenagers. I bet the IDF is laughing as they launch
rockets at their own iron dome. These are truly sick people who believe non-Israelis are subhuman.

I just think any sort of resistance force America funds or 'gives aid' will end up using the weapons and equipment against them, especially in the
middle east. I've read that Hamas is a resistance force, who dont attack unless they're attacked first, yet in the MSM it's Hamas breaking
ceasefires and shooting first, could be propaganda but who really knows

Or, we could simply follow the law, instead of listening to the court of public opinion. If we followed the law, Israel decision makers are violating
what is known as the law of occupation.

Hamas or no Hamas, the actions by Israel since 1948 have been wholly unlawful under international law.

I really do not understand this push and urge to simply eradicate a whole subset of human beings over one favored race, who are just as equally
racist. Do you want me to post some pictures of dead children, reminding you good sir, that it could just as easily have been your own kids had you
been born a few GPS coordinates differently?

Reminder: Real Racism per the dictionary.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or
superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Its a brutal situation out there no doubt, I have been mostly following VICE News on the ground in Gaza and Israel they tend to keep the news raw
uncut and get the opinion of the people on the ground. Its definetly a one sided conflict and the slaughter of the civilian people is insane since
they are the ones suffering the most in the conflict. The reporter even felt threatened from a drone buzzing by in fear he might be struck and the
hotel where he ate lunch at earlier in the day was shelled not long after his team left. Its interesting to see this news series because its very
raw.

The latest report video on the ground was from the 21st, feel free to watch the rest of the series

Thanks for the video! I've been trying to find a more balanced source of updates etc. but here is the only place there's a balance lol. Always good
to have a mixture of sources, shocking to see what they're not putting in the MSM though...Can't imagine living in that situation, being in Israel
or Gaza, but obviously there's a much higher risk of death in Gaza.

Yeah these "innocent" civilians made a choice to not report Hamas building multiple tunnels and building a stockpile of Rockets and grenades over
the last several. Poor civilians getting the world they allowed to happen. I have no sympathy. They brought on their own demise. Israel not going to
stop until Hamas is gone.

Maybe next time when they see tunnels being dug and rockets being made and or shipped in they should say something to authorities and those
authorities should stop it from happening if they don't want to have another round of losing.

If I lived there and saw Hamas building tunnels I would tell Israel so it does not lead to this again. Simple as that. Actually I just would not be
living there but that an entire other story.

But you say that suggesting Hamas are making rockets outside in the open, or as if the tunnels are easily visable. We don't really know the true
depths of the concrete tunnels, and how do you know the Palastinian people weren't threatened if they did tell Israeli authorities? Althought I'd
expect Israel to at least notice the construction of these tunnels...

No sympathy for over 1000 "innocent" lives? Yeah I'm pretty sure they wanted to die, or was completely okay with how their state was run...That's
BS man, these normal Palastinians aren't in Hamas, they clearly don't want conflict but what can you do when your house is flattened and there's no
where safe to seek refuge? And as I said above how do you know Hamas didn't threaten the people to stay or to keep quiet

originally posted by: g146541
a reply to: conz1992
Of course israel denies what they have done.
Just as they had originally denied this but later it is found they have lied once
again.
Once can be a mistake, maybe even twice, but this is an every time occasion.
The propaganda machine is on fire!! Run away run away!
The israelis are about to lose their last friend.
I think the US will have to place our dual citizens in concentration camps as we did the Japanese in ww2.

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