About Trump not doing anything about this Russian interference, some points to note:

Mueller conducted a criminal rather than counterintelligence investigation, the difference between these two is that the president MUST be informed of counterintelligence investigations, but does not have to be of criminal investigations. Trump WAS NOT INFORMED of the investigation into Russian interference in the election until Mueller disclosed his latest indictment.

Mueller is operating under the premise Trump cannot be informed of his investigation's progress since Trump is the target, if he reported to Trump on this, the president could cover his tracks and conceal evidence, so Trump had to be kept in the dark on this.

Had Trump been informed of these Russians he probably would have threatened sanctions, summoned the Russian ambassador for a dressing down, complained to Putin, expelled whatever diplomats...

None of the 13 Russians are agents of the Russian government, they're not from the KGB, not spies, they were paid by a restauranteur in St. Petersburg whose only tie to Putin is that he has catered banquets for visiting foreign dignitaries there.

The Russians were paid $1.2 million a month and engaged in their deception for 5-6 months in the US.

Mueller's indictment refers to infantile emails between these Russians describing their pranks, one boasts the FBI is onto him.

Mueller's indictment of these Russians is deflection.

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He told you that? I didn’t realize you knew mueller well.Why don’t we just wait and see. I hope you’re not one of those who wants the investigation stopped

This may come as a shock. But I do not work for the FBI. You are correct I don’t have proof but the FBI is working on that
I kind of get the feeling that you don’t want the FBI investigating one of the most dangerous things that has happened to this country. Pretend it is Obama’s birth certificate and then you can get yourself more involved because after all that was so much more serious (sarcasm alert)

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A shock? No, of course not. Lol. Nor am I shocked that you now confirm you don't have any proof. Nor does the FBI. It's all media spin, hype and make believe. They're not working on it either.

Like many others on this forum, you're far too personally invested in US cold war rhetoric to even know the difference between evidence and propaganda anymore. This latest FBI episode is as clear a definition of propaganda as you can get. This is abundantly clear from the very obvious fact that not one of the 13 Russians are going to be extradited to stand trial in the US. Consequently no damning evidence / proof will ever be needed to be made available. Check out Plus Ultra's post 199 above.

It's just more smoke and mirrors you're buying into. The FBI loves you for it, too. Uncritical chumps are what they rely on to spread this nonsense in order to keep the cold war machine running smoothly and effortlessly in line with stated US foreign policy.

So, put your glass of milk down, set your chocolate cookies to one side, press pause on the Disney Channel you're watching and take the time to read the following HERE, HERE & HERE.

A shock? No, of course not. Lol. Nor am I shocked that you now confirm you don't have any proof. Nor does the FBI. It's all media spin, hype and make believe. They're not working on it either.

Like many others on this forum, you're far too personally invested in US cold war rhetoric to even know the difference between evidence and propaganda anymore. This latest FBI episode is as clear a definition of propaganda as you can get. This is abundantly clear from the very obvious fact that not one of the 13 Russians are going to be extradited to stand trial in the US. Consequently no damning evidence / proof will ever be needed to be made available. Check out Plus Ultra's post 199 above.

It's just more smoke and mirrors you're buying into. The FBI loves you for it, too. Uncritical chumps are what they rely on to spread this nonsense in order to keep the cold war machine running smoothly and effortlessly in line with stated US foreign policy.

So, put your glass of milk down, set your chocolate cookies to one side, press pause on the Disney Channel you're watching and take the time to read the following HERE, HERE & HERE.

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Of course I have no proof....but the FBI does
The fact that you say it is media spin when they have proof speaks volumes about your devotion to the slime.
I find people like you plain scary. The fact that you think this is propaganda and that Russia wasn’t involved shows how easily you are manipulated. What makes you say that all these things that they can prove are false?Oh wait I know the answer. It is a conspiracy. I think it is conspiracy number 2864. The FBI right now is meeting in the secret Cabal.
I’m sure you believe that the porn star and the other one didn’t really have sex with him while his wife was home with their newborn. It’s all propaganda. Oh and I am sure you think his crowds at his inauguration was the biggest ever and I am sure you are not bright enough to realize he’s lying when he says he’s giving the largest tax cut ever. He needs people like you desperately. I could just imagine if something like this came out about Obama. Look how hysterical you got when Trump said he had proof that he was from Kenya. You believed that even though it was not a shred of proof and felt was just lying to lure people like youHere is something so serious and you don’t want it investigated. No one not even Republicans are denying the findings of the FBI. Only the ones that Trump knew he could count on. His words, “I love the uneducated....They would vote for me if I shot someone on fifth Avenue”his words, not mine

The real issue is not Trump, unless you believe he is a sleeper commie ignoring Russia is not anymore. It is that Russia is trying to disrupt the US political process and Americans don't care/ They are too buy hating each other. We will not survive as a nation that way.

The nomination, no. The general, everyone with sense thought Clinton could lose.

The point of the Russians spreading big lies for Sanders ("The DNC rigged it for Clinton!) and Stein ("There's no difference between R's and D's!") was to get butthurt Berniebros and idiot Greens to stay home and not vote for Clinton.

And it worked.

You may not be able to understand something that obvious, but the Russians certainly could, so they got their preferred candidate into office.

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I call that DIRTY POLITICS. As dirty as you like it, not you necessarily, but those who like dirty political games. Seriously, this nation is not going to last much longer if the political system is not cleaned from top to bottom, bottom to top.

A shock? No, of course not. Lol. Nor am I shocked that you now confirm you don't have any proof. Nor does the FBI. It's all media spin, hype and make believe. They're not working on it either.

Like many others on this forum, you're far too personally invested in US cold war rhetoric to even know the difference between evidence and propaganda anymore. This latest FBI episode is as clear a definition of propaganda as you can get. This is abundantly clear from the very obvious fact that not one of the 13 Russians are going to be extradited to stand trial in the US. Consequently no damning evidence / proof will ever be needed to be made available. Check out Plus Ultra's post 199 above.

It's just more smoke and mirrors you're buying into. The FBI loves you for it, too. Uncritical chumps are what they rely on to spread this nonsense in order to keep the cold war machine running smoothly and effortlessly in line with stated US foreign policy.

So, put your glass of milk down, set your chocolate cookies to one side, press pause on the Disney Channel you're watching and take the time to read the following HERE, HERE & HERE.

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Micheal Parenti (I know Leftwinger) wrote a book years ago titled "the Make Believe Media" He explains inn the book who media uses coercion, emotionalism, sentimentality, fear, etc. to coerce the public to think in a certain manner about various topic and issues. As I have said before, I have made myself aware of the machinations of media, politicians, self-appointed leaders and the gamut. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME.

The real issue is not Trump, unless you believe he is a sleeper commie ignoring Russia is not anymore. It is that Russia is trying to disrupt the US political process and Americans don't care/ They are too buy hating each other. We will not survive as a nation that way.

The real issue is not Trump, unless you believe he is a sleeper commie ignoring Russia is not anymore. It is that Russia is trying to disrupt the US political process and Americans don't care/ They are too buy hating each other. We will not survive as a nation that way.

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no you are wrong... The divide between Americans are not nearly as big as the Russian trolls would like you to believe...

Micheal Parenti (I know Leftwinger) wrote a book years ago titled "the Make Believe Media" He explains inn the book who media uses coercion, emotionalism, sentimentality, fear, etc. to coerce the public to think in a certain manner about various topic and issues. As I have said before, I have made myself aware of the machinations of media, politicians, self-appointed leaders and the gamut. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME.

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Then you certainly should be concerned about what Russia did. They used the media they organized fake rallit’s.
The media also delivers information. Remember Nixon? Remember Clinton?

I don't know R.. I think it seems worse on here and social media...the echo effect that come from the Russian Trolls.
Trump do not represent the majority of Americans, most Americans hate him. The minority who do support him, I believe compare with other countries who have their own pockets of right wingers and extremists.

I can't understand this. Thirteen Russian nationals were arrested for what? From what I gathered, they were supporting different sides, which is the same thing as we are doing in Syria. The only difference is that with the Russians no lives were lost, and yet with us there are; whether we're attacking ISIS or reversing it and attacking the Syrian army.

It's hard to believe 13 Russians impersonating US citizens could sway an election, Rosenstein acknowledged there is no claim they did in Mueller's indictment, some of the emerging details suggest this may be overblown.

Oh so sorry the fbi did t share all its findings with us. If you notice even the Republicans aren’t bashing the FBI anymore. For the president of the United States to bash our security is a national disgrace. There is no question now that Russia interfered with our election and they are at war with us cyberly. (Is that a word?)
What confuses me so much is people like you who would rather defend Trump then to defend the very democracy of our country. Imagine if this was Obama. Look how you want to go after Hillary

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I'm English, so have no loyalty to The Donald. What I perceive from here (this madhouse called the United Kingdom!) is that for a variety of reasons he isn't wanted, and if an incumbent president isn't wanted, it isn't easy to get rid of him - unless all kinds of factions (including the political elite, and the government agencies, which includes the FBI??) join forces in order to achieve it? And as for your assertion quote There is no question now that Russia interfered with our election and they are at war with us cyberly. unquote. So far as I know, there has been no recent nor historical proof of it, so you're obviously buying into the official narrative contrived by those government bodies mentioned above without knowing the whole truth. Oh, and Russia isn't at war with you, cyberly or otherwise, radical Islam is. And one last thing - Trump didn't grab anyone's fanny!!

Of course I have no proof....but the FBI does
The fact that you say it is media spin when they have proof speaks volumes about your devotion to the slime.
I find people like you plain scary. The fact that you think this is propaganda and that Russia wasn’t involved shows how easily you are manipulated. What makes you say that all these things that they can prove are false?Oh wait I know the answer. It is a conspiracy. I think it is conspiracy number 2864. The FBI right now is meeting in the secret Cabal.
I’m sure you believe that the porn star and the other one didn’t really have sex with him while his wife was home with their newborn. It’s all propaganda. Oh and I am sure you think his crowds at his inauguration was the biggest ever and I am sure you are not bright enough to realize he’s lying when he says he’s giving the largest tax cut ever. He needs people like you desperately. I could just imagine if something like this came out about Obama. Look how hysterical you got when Trump said he had proof that he was from Kenya. You believed that even though it was not a shred of proof and felt was just lying to lure people like youHere is something so serious and you don’t want it investigated. No one not even Republicans are denying the findings of the FBI. Only the ones that Trump knew he could count on. His words, “I love the uneducated....They would vote for me if I shot someone on fifth Avenue”his words, not mine

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Keep hugging that belief system, Renee. Let it become your life raft in the turbulent ocean of life. Keep swallowing the blue pill to feel comfy and secure. Keep repeating the mantra "the FBI knows best, the FBI knows best..." Etc, etc, etc.

I'm English, so have no loyalty to The Donald. What I perceive from here (this madhouse called the United Kingdom!) is that for a variety of reasons he isn't wanted, and if an incumbent president isn't wanted, it isn't easy to get rid of him - unless all kinds of factions (including the political elite, and the government agencies, which includes the FBI??) join forces in order to achieve it? And as for your assertion quote There is no question now that Russia interfered with our election and they are at war with us cyberly. unquote. So far as I know, there has been no recent nor historical proof of it, so you're obviously buying into the official narrative contrived by those government bodies mentioned above without knowing the whole truth. Oh, and Russia isn't at war with you, cyberly or otherwise, radical Islam is. And one last thing - Trump didn't grab anyone's fanny!!

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Since becoming a member of this forum (last December) I had no real understanding of how so many Americans have become so obtuse about their ignorance. I can think of no other nationality that is quite so comfortable in their stupidity - although there must be others if you think about it. It's a big change, at least since I worked there in the late 1970's early 1980's. And, therefore, really mind-numbing that such a major thing can happen in just a few decades.

I'll be in Atlanta next month and the first thing I'll do is to visit the state's FBI HQ to turn in what I found about some posters who are too APPEARING/POSING as Americans. They might as well be linked to what DOJ called "RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY" !

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Little of. Apparently Russian hackers made the design of American sports suits for the Olympics. Obviously, Russian hackers decided to make the world laugh with American sports suits.

Since becoming a member of this forum (last December) I had no real understanding of how so many Americans have become so obtuse about their ignorance. I can think of no other nationality that is quite so comfortable in their stupidity - although there must be others if you think about it. It's a big change, at least since I worked there in the late 1970's early 1980's. And, therefore, really mind-numbing that such a major thing can happen in just a few decades.

Now I understand why you use this emoji so often:

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I've studied this at some length in my own small way, and have concluded it's the 'celebrity mentality' at work. They're mindlessly in awe of anyone they perceive as being 'important', or an 'expert/scientist' as being anything less than highly intelligent despite manifest and tangible evidence to the contrary; they point blank refuse to believe that they might be charlatans, have a self-serving agenda, or that they can be fallible in some way or other, when the reverse is often the case. A kind of irrational need to believe flawed or spurious 'facts', and to be servile to the very fraudsters who are trying to fool them? Oh, and typically they like to vocalise a lot, too, and the louder the better!