Thanks for passing it along. A pretty well-done promo piece, but there are obviously things to pick apart with what we know (downgrade the RS4 for not having individual throttle butterflies, but no mention of direct injection).

Yeah, a lot of propaganda, says Porsche PASM is an option on the Carrera, but does not mention the EDC or whatever is optional not standard on the M3 also. Again gushes about the brakes which we know are rubbish and has the nerve to include the Nurburgring. The M3 brakes would melt after more then 1 lap.

Basically some nice pics, but it's for noobs and soccer moms, a lot of inaccuracies in their, plain embarassing for a petrol head.

Yeah, a lot of propaganda, says Porsche PASM is an option on the Carrera, but does not mention the EDC or whatever is optional not standard on the M3 also. Again gushes about the brakes which we know are rubbish and has the nerve to include the Nurburgring. The M3 brakes would melt after more then 1 lap.

Basically some nice pics, but it's for noobs and soccer moms, a lot of inaccuracies in their, plain embarassing for a petrol head.

actually we dont know they're rubbish. you're stating other people's opinions as fact. we know only what we've read, and there's a lot more to be published in the months to follow. the car's brakes can only be fairly assessed when they're running stock pads, and the reviewer is under no time constraints. until then i, like steved, will refrain from passing judgment on the car's brake performance.

Besides, a few reviews said that the brakes faded very quickly. There are no miracles out there, it's either many pistons or you get slammed in reviews yet again. The fact that despite repeated criticism and the fact that ALL competition has VASTLY better brakes, BMW decided not to change them from the E46 speaks volumes about how BMW intends to position this car.

And all this "lightweight" bs and "lower center of gravity" when the car is heavier then the car it replaces (which uses no weight saving) and all this "born for the racetrack" spiel to impress the soccer moms and chearleaders with rich parents.

Think of motorcycles, every new model of a bike that comes out is lighter then the one preceeding it, while retaining all the amenities AND having more power. Why then bother with the CF roof if the rest of the package is so heavy? The new M3 is all about marketing.

Besides, a few reviews said that the brakes faded very quickly. There are no miracles out there, it's either many pistons or you get slammed in reviews yet again. The fact that despite repeated criticism and the fact that ALL competition has VASTLY better brakes, BMW decided not to change them from the E46 speaks volumes about how BMW intends to position this car.

And all this "lightweight" bs and "lower center of gravity" when the car is heavier then the car it replaces (which uses no weight saving) and all this "born for the racetrack" spiel to impress the soccer moms and chearleaders with rich parents.

Think of motorcycles, every new model of a bike that comes out is lighter then the one preceeding it, while retaining all the amenities AND having more power. Why then bother with the CF roof if the rest of the package is so heavy? The new M3 is all about marketing.

because a bike manufacturer doesn't have to concern itself with luxury, comfort, and amenity, which is why bikes get lighter, and cars get heavier from generation to generation. it came as no surprise to anyone that this M3 would be heavier than the last generations, in fact your complaints on the issue are almost amusing to me. what you've failed to consider is that the car's power gains ( almost 90 hp over the outgoing m3) more than offset it's weight gain, thus its improved acceleration times.

i'd ask you what your complaint really is, but the more of your posts i read, the more it becomes obvious.... you're complaining for the sake of complaining, and quickly losing all credibility as you do it.