"... you know how you and your friends used to get into wandering, but interesting, all-night conversations about every subject imaginable - school, politics, jokes, sports, news, girls, philosophy, etc - in your younger days? Well, replace you with PJ O'Rourke, and replace your friends with a lot of drugs. Voila! Jeff Goldstein: a right winger somewhere between libertarian and libertine.\" ", Jon Henke, QandO - The neolibertarian network

If you're a financial freak try online forex, forex online has never been easier; experience forex trading at the leading forex broker offering forex managed accounts offering you the opportunity to trade forex online with state of the art real trading conditions.

Webmaster or site owner? Join the leading forex affiliate program and start earning from your advertising space.

I wish San Diego would re-assert its conservative roots. The place has been going downhill the last 25 years.

When I first moved away, I planned to move back. That would only happen now for a few very specific reasons, and I would be constantly prepared to leave again. The weather is awesome, but the politics of the place are terrible.

“We broke the NRA,” Lansdowne boasted in an off camera portion of an interview with San Diego 6 and the Washington Guardian. When asked to expound, he demurred.

I hate conspiracy theories. Most conspiracies are completely unworkable as posited.

That said, I’m deeply, deeply suspicious of the most recent mass shootings. We’ve got Obama in the last debate saying he wants to reinstate the AWB. Feinstein just happens to have a bill almost ready to go when Sandy Hook goes down.

why would some pension whore flunky in san diego care about disarming the whole goddamn american people?

‘Cuz he’s not alone, and the feds are preparing for martial law. Right out in front of everyone.

At this point, I’m not sure what to worry about more. A terrorist attack with WMD, or the governments response to it’s own citizens after. I mean, 9/11 gave us the DHS, the TSA, and a whole re-imagining of FEMA. We’re only a breath away from martial law now.

What is really troubling is it’s not unreasonable to think that way. We KNOW we are being lied to regularly, and mass media is using propaganda to engineer perception, and therefore reality. The only question is, how much?

Dude, I strongly doubt you idiots have disarmed the UK or Canada half so well as you’d like to think you have. Hell, you outlawed murder and theft and yet there it is still waving to you from the street corner.

I’d love to be able to poo-poo the strange conspiracy notes around Newtown but unfortunately I recently saw how Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the Trayvon/Zimmerman shooting case were played in the press and it is clear that no real investigation of any kind ever goes on anymore before the stories go out and in fact producers will trim audio to make something APPEAR to have happened. Anything at all could be bullshit yet passed off as true by the PR huddle that has finally replaced the already highly suspect press. Scary times.

The best actual revelation of facts regarding events like the Sandy Hook slaughters (or the Aurora movie murders) will only come as court documents (in the case of Sandy Hook) following law suits and the like, since the immediate wrongdoer is dead, come to light. And even in that case, the erosion of trust in the processes of justice have been instructing us to mistrust what is revealed.

The fact that we [and I include myself] think these things are possible and we have Right Reason on our side when we do, is another sign of the triumph of Leftism in America.

One of the main Leftist tactics is to sow Chaos, with the purpose of taking advantage of that to move forward with various of their schemes – we’re so busy trying to make sense of things that we don’t notice what they’re doing or, if we do, they provide another distraction as soon as possible to divert our attention.

The Left is bombarding us from every angle with the hope that we won’t be able to regroup and mount an effective counter-attack.

As the old saying goes, “If you’re not paranoid, you’re not paying attention”. These so called ” common sense gun laws” are not intended to reduce crime or the chance of another Sandy Hook from occuring. They are incremental steps to disarm the citizenery and gut the Second Amendment. It’s all about people control and not gun control.

Glenn Beck did a debunk show last Thursday. I haven’t seen it, nor have I seen the YouTube vids.

I don’t believe it was a false-flag op. A family that Beck has known for years (from when he lived in CT) lost a niece.

It’s one thing to suspect that people who come forward could be actors; it’s quite another when it happens to someone you already know.

Have you looked at some of the evidence? No one is saying no one died. What they’re saying is that certain things are problematic, from books on how to talk to kids about SH being published before the day of the shooting to victim pages created in advance on facebook.

Also, there’s raw footage of police removing the rifle from the trunk of the car Lanza supposedly drove (supposedly his mother’s, but whose license plate tracks to a criminal); are we to believe Lanza left the school to put the rifle away but left a number of handguns lying around?

Where is the footage of a mass evacuation? Where is the footage of Lanza entering the school (the school has security cams)?

Why are some of the people who were interviewed as parents not, but rather out of state actors?

I have questions. And “Glenn Beck had a niece” does nothing to dispel them. To me, that’s irrelevant.

I still can’t get any solid confirmation on what weapons were used at Newtown and whether the freaky murder-boy’s mother ever actually worked at the school.

The State Police rebutted the NBC report and say that all of the victims were shot with the Bushmaster. Lanza killed himself with a pistol. The weapon in the trunk of the car was a shotgun. The mother volunteered at the school, but did not work there.

I think we are getting distracted with bayonet lugs, magazine capacity, weapons in trunks, etc. It’s all about the end-game – confiscation. Demonstrations at state capitols on February 8. Watch out for false flags, is all I can say. They are looking for an excuse to really clamp down. I am heart sick.

What about this ‘retired psychologist’ fellow? He gave refuge to a bunch of crying six year olds who ended up in his driveway—–how? They got off a bus no one saw? The school was on lock-down, no one was going anywhere. He gets all emotive on teevee, but is a just-the-facts guy in interviews.

The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

yea do we have documents attesting to that. or spokespeeps the end all

The Federal Government’s taking this tragedy and using it to forward it’s current controller’s agendas is, to me, the story. I’d rather battle on that front than be baited into arguing that the tragedy was pre-planned.

It was pre-planned, in the sense that ‘they’ (the Alinksyite in Chief, and his well-trained henchmen) had the mechanisms to best make use of any tragedy involving a madman shooter already in place. And they executed it flawlessly, with very little (if any) opposition from the weak (R) side.

That bastard’s name needs be on every blog in the country. What kind of father leaves his son with an ex-wife, who by herself had no effective means to control the kid’s progression to madness? Peter Lanza is as bad as Adam Lanza AFAIC, in the sense that this tragedy sprouted from his loins, and on his watch. Peter Lanza abandoned his son, and should share a heaping helping of the blame for all of this.

I googled to see if anyone else had mentioned a saiga shotgun, and that was the first result in the list that mentioned one.

Since I’m living a dial-up life in a hi-speed wireless world, I can’t and don’t do streaming video. So I don’t know if that is in fact a saiga shotgun in the video, or if it’s only kooks who frequent Alex Jone’s website who think it to be so.

My mom called McKeesport and first they said that there was no swat team sent to the house and that if there was te McKeesport police would kno about a swat team raiding a house. Then they told my mom someone must have impursonated a swat team and that I need to hang up and dial 911 and say that people lies about being officers of the law and broke In my house. But then when I called and told 911 what happened they said that yes it was true that a swat was there told me who they were looking for and said they didn’t understand why McKeesport cops wouldn’t kno about a swat In the town. So 911 finally verified that it was official police. Swat team. I been lied to by so many different people just to find out who broke into the house and why. Which spooked me into not staying there anymore. My cat is missing now irreplaceable things got stolen. Not sure if it was this swat team .. You never know or after they left the door wide open someone went in the house and stole my things

cash-for-gunsPolice officers in Seattle, Washington held their first gun buyback program in 20 years this weekend, underneath interstate 5, and soon found that private gun collectors were working the large crowd as little makeshift gun shows began dotting the parking lot and sidewalks. Some even had “cash for guns” signs prominently displayed.

Police stood in awe as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line for the buyback program.

People that had arrived to trade in their weapons for $100 or $200 BuyBack gift cards($100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons) soon realized that gun collectors were there and paying top dollar for collectible firearms. So, as the line for the chump cards got longer and longer people began to jump ship and head over to the dealers.

Speaking only for myself I find it nearly impossible to even approach these topics. For one, the base level of earned trust from the media and your average official spokesperson are very low. Also, my time to follow up (watch videos, read the variously supplied links… and then think about it all) on any of these things is finite.

The normal use of Occam’s razor gets tricky. What are the various stories to chose from so as to decide which is the least convoluted? I have no idea. What level of reliability do any of the sources of possible info have? Again, I have no idea.

I suppose I’m left with my normal vague agnosticism and a regret that so many institutions have purposely squandered their reliability.

In this case, I think there are so many pre-placed agendas between the media, the anti-gun “NGOs” (I mean that in the sinister Stalinist sense, since “advocacy groups” doesn’t capture the true nature) who immediately start working their contacts in media and government, the government people who start reacting to media reports and demands for commentary, also with their own agendas in play, the insatiable appetite of the 24/7/365 news services for information to diseminate, the pro-gun groups and government people who put up with the scapegoating in order to retain access, the media getting burned by “sources,” or straight up lied to by politicians, and putting up with it in order to maintain access, the PR people for all the different people and organizations keeping all those cooperating and conflicting gears greased and functioning instead of binding up and flying apart, it all takes on a surreal quality and it’s easy to believe the whole damn thing was staged, because, other than the shooting and the maiming and the dying and the suffering and the mouring (all of which is quickly set aside), the reaction to and the coverage of the epiphemona, the rest of it, the subtext and the metatext, is in fact staged or perhaps prepackaged.

Sorry for the stream of consciousness ranting there. But I really don’t know how to clean that up.

I’m not so sure of that McG, insofar as it may be that the projected time of the last eaten is so far off the prospective meal can believe they will more likely to die of natural or other intervening causes before they’re actually eaten, and so live a long and pleasant life floating along on the political tide, gaining audience and accruing wealth the while. Whereas, in this instance, Ms. Powers appears to see someone coming directly after her place of employment and source of income.

Obama getting ready to casual-shoot a rare ground skeet at Camp David. (Actual photo of Obama posing with a shotgun at Camp David to show that the touch of a gun does not burn him the way holy water burns vampires)

Well I’ve never seen him flower so he’s not an angiosperm but I think I can see some fruiting body style spores coming out of the top of his head. I dunno. Could be a parasitic, symbiotic, or commensal growth. Since he’s a democrat I’d go with parasitic because birds of a feather flock together.

Yep- more so than any conspiracy, this is a complete fail on the part of a gun owner, who a. should have had her guns secured and b. should have recognized the dangers of a unsecured firearm in a house with an obviously disturbed person.

Its a shame that instead of trying to ban assault weapons and magazines and whatever else, the Feds don’t shine a spotlight (maybe with an assist from the NRA) on proper gun safety, storage and etiquette, which might actually lead to more gun safety. I’m not saying this lunatic couldn’t have found guns elsewhere but gun safety starts with the gun owner and who knows if his demented brain saw an opportunity, based on his easy access to his mother’s weapons. I don’t even have kids and I have a gun safe (though I sleep with a loaded Beretta well hidden but within easy reach).

“. . . this is a complete fail on the part of a gun owner, who a. should have had her guns secured . . . ”

We do not know, so far as I have seen, anything of the circumstances regarding the storage of weapons, or how they were obtained by the little murderer. So there is little sense in assuming one thing or another about it.

I’ve always considered that the press was supposed to be “the people’s”, as the phrase is used in the Constitution, intelligence service. Our spies. The 1st Amendment is there to keep our hireling, to whom we entrust the use of some of our sovereignty, from controlling our intelligence service, just as the 2nd Amendment is to keep their hands off “our” military.

It is hard enough for any intelligence service to sort out truth or facts when all sources they normally deal with all have their own agendas, biases, but it can be done, mostly, and if seen close up is like looking at sausage being made before you eat it.

When your service has itself been infiltrated by a power which wishes to push out a certain version of “truth” and/or cause competing versions to be doubted, disinformation will overwhelm information and the S/N ratio goes hyperbolic.

That any factual information gets out and believed is amazing to me. That it takes work to get it is why the “low-info” voters are the golden ones sought out by those who wish to claim all power, all sovereignty for the government alone.

Matt, that road leads to the ownership of guns being increasingly expensive as the type of required storage becomes more stringent. Raising the cost and lowering the usefulness of gun ownership has been a time proven gun control technique.

The end of storage requirements passes through having guns being longer to get to than the response time of the police and ends when a benevolent government “offers” to store them for you.

I bought a gun on the 19th, and one of the questions on the application was if I had a gun safe. Apparently, if you don’t, you are required to purchase a trigger lock. When I answered yes, they wanted to know the size and make of my safe.

I bought two used rifles and had to either buy a lock or show the lock and the sales receipt to buy them. There was a form that had to be filled out on the back side of the ATF form or stapled to it. I assume it is federal law for any sale by an FFL dealer, though I don’t have the form myself so it could be State level.

geoffb, it must be state. Or maybe it’s only domestic manufacturer’s must provide a lock. My recent purchase was Turkish gun, and now I’m thinking the guy I bought it from was pretty cool, telling me about the safe thing when he could have just as easily let me believe I had to buy a lock.

I’m not sure if it is the law, but the firearms manufacturers find it prudent to include a locking mechanism with their firearms, perhaps as a sort of due diligence blanket protection against some class action or wrongful death lawsuits.

I believe that federal law allows for you to carry your weapons in your car through any state — even Illinois — legally with the stipulation that they be in lockable containers with any ammunition stored in separate lockable containers. The federal law doesn’t require the containers to be locked, merely lockable. You may get some aggravation from some authorities in Illinois anyway, but them’s the rules.

Now that I have thought on this, I did buy a trigger lock for a 9mm that I bought about 34 years ago in California. I didn’t have to, but I did in case someone broke in and stole it while I was at work. I ended up never using it (the lock) though since, like geoff’s pistola, it didn’t fit right and was clumsy to remove.

A lot of firearms now come with little key locks that will lock up the action. My Taurus 24/7 OSS Tac had one (god rest its drowned soul); as does my wife’s Walther P22.

Honestly, I don’t use the trigger locks that come with the firearms. When I still had my FNP 45 Tac (god rest it’s drowned, 15+1 soul), I kept it in a small bedside safe. My Taurus I would keep in the underwear drawer, locked with the little key, the key itself kept in the small bedside gun safe (along with the keys to my lock cabinet for my long guns. God rest their drowned souls).

My primary carry piece, until I have a nice custom leather shoulder rig made for the FNP 45 Tac, in memory of having once owned one (god rest its drowned soul), I keep on me, then at night it goes in my sock drawer next to the bed. I usually keep the safety on it and leave it in double action mode at rest during the evenings, because when I draw it from its holster it turns on a high-lumen strobe and a green laser, which is disorienting to anyone who first sees it, giving me time to release the safety with my thumb and cock the hammer into single action mode. And naturally, I keep one in the chamber.

I have a different strategy. I figure the sound of a round being chambered (really no more time consuming than using the safety) and being in the dark gives me the advantage. Unlike an intruder, I can walk through the house in the dark, and I can shoot in it when it’s dark, too.

I leave the safety off and keep the pipe empty while they’re in the safe. It takes no time to rack the slide and an empty pipe is worthwhile accident insurance. When they’re going to the range, I empty ’em and put the safety on.

Remember that guy what couldn’t get his gun in play when he saw a scary man, then puked on the floor?
Can you imagine if he would have had to deal with a trigger lock?
Probably would have shit himself…

OK, here’s a different request. I took my wife to Cabela’s recently and she really seemd to like a used Savage 24, .22LR AND 20 gauge shotgun. This is on aloder model Savage no longer makes but they do now make something they call a Savage 42, which is essentially the same thing in a few different calibers.

Login/Register

Advertisements

DHgate.com is the leading B2B online trading marketplace for china wholesale products, you can buy high quality china wholesale apparel, electronics, security cameras and other wholesale products on DHgate.com.