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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 22:35:41 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: broncowayhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/mcbath-the-latest-mcdaniels-pick-to-get-booted/#comment-1247574
Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:18:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1247574The drafting of Alphonso Smith made a little bit of sense at the time. The Broncos in 2008 had a total of 6 ints as a team. That was the worst output in years and that is just disgusting. A. Smith is the all time ACC leader in ints, and he is a play maker. At least in college. About the same size as Antoine Winfield.

What McDick did was get rid of for Nate Jones, who sucks. Smith went on to have 5 ints in just over 8 games for the Lions. For all they gave up to get him, and to just not even give him a chance?

I also dont mind getting rid of Cutler. Cutler is just not that good. Marshall is a sociopath.

The bottom line for me is Mcdaniels traded Hillis (for allegedly poking his wife) for Quinn. He then a short time after got a whole bunch of picks, traded up to get Tebow, then gave Orton a 9 million dollar contract. Instantly a QB disaster inDenver.

I cant think of many disasters to hit the Broncos like the little cross eyed napoleon, pathetic BB wannabe.

“I’m not familiar with Denver’s front office set up, but I highly doubt that McDaniels had final say on any draft pick as a 1st time, 30 somethin year old HC. Lot of blame to go around out there.”

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perry1977 says:

Actually, he did. But thanks for chiming in on something you don’t know anything about.

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Who’s the dumb ass in Denver who gave McDaniels final say? Isn’t that guy the problem? Oh, it was the owner. Why aren’t you intelligent Bronco fans laying blame at the feet of the person really responsible for it? And I’ll say again, were you intelligent Bronco fans upset at McDaniels when they were 6-0 to start the 2009 season–his first season? I don’t think so especially after the reaction I saw after they beat the Patriots in OT in week 5. If I remember, McDaniels was going ape sh*t pumpin’ his fists and screaming up into the stands, and you fans were eating it all up.

Sorry, that I don’t know the front office set up of EVERY NFL team like you do. Jesus, I even said I didn’t. Now that you told me that Josh DID have final say, then my comment about plenty of blame to go around makes even MORE sense. Who in the hell would give final say on personel matters to a 30 something, first time HC? THAT was stupid to begin with! If Bowlen had hired a 30 something year old HC or 30 something year old GM, then cool. It’s been done. But, giving BOTH positions to the same 30 something guy is doomed to fail before it even begins. I even mentioned in my last post that I didn’t think McDaniels was ready to be a HC. How was it that I saw it, but the owner of the Broncos didn’t?

Plenty of blame. Not only the owner hiring him for both, but NO ONE in the Bronco front office stepped up to express their concern. The GM (Xanders?) hides behind the “I respected the set up” b.s. I wouldn’t hire that guy for nothin because he had no sack to confront McDaniels’ decisions as GM. No scout in that draft room spoke up? When Parcells wanted a DL in the 96 draft, he was overruled by the GM and the owner. Yes, that led to Parcells leaving, but McDaniels did not/does not have Parcells’ cache. SOMEONE in that room could have stepped up…unless they all liked the draft picks too.

Actually kind of feel bad for the Broncos though. A once proud team who gave the us”the drive” (still hurts me after all these years) was totally and seems almost deliberately driven into the ground by McDaniels.

If I was a Broncos fan I would give McDaniels about as much respect as we Browns fans give Art Modell.

McDaniels will be next Pats coach, 2014. You all will wish you had him too.
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I have 0 use for him..he’s right there with Mangini in my book. I will puke buckets if he’s ever the HC of the Pats. I always hated his pass heavy finesse offense and he betrayed BB during that whole taping practices thing (making him no better than Mangini). He can go die in a fire for all I care.

Suddenly he’s qualified to be HC for Denver? Not. Way over his head, way too much way too soon.

]]>By: gman41http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/mcbath-the-latest-mcdaniels-pick-to-get-booted/#comment-1241950
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:55:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241950And the biggest reason he is an idiot? He traded back into the 1st round to take Tim Tebow. LMAO
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:45:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241796He was about as bad as Al Davis on draft day.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 06:29:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241724BB told him he wasn’t ready and he didn’t listen. What a shame.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:40:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241635Seriously I’m shocked that Mc Daniels could even walk around Denver without getting his teeth kicked in.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:29:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241632When McDaniels entered as head Coach he was inheriting the number 2 offense from the year before. Led by a 24 year old QB, 24 stud WR and a standout LT. With a horrible defense. They still have a horrible D and their offense is middle of the pack O. He made so many mistakes. You can write a book on how not to run an NFL franchise with 10 solid chapters.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:16:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241621psychoraider904 says:
Sep 4, 2011 10:44 PM
All of RaiderNation would like to give Josh McDaniels a big thank you for setting the Broncos back a few years.

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All of the NFL would like to thank the Crypt Keeper for staying alive and for hiring NINE different coaches in the past 15 years…

You look crazy talking about stability and set backs through coaching / GM / ownership decisions…

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:05:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241611flagstaffphotos – YOU’RE A FRAUD AND AN IDIOT. You really go above and beyond to criticize the Patriots. You do a great job at that, but horrible job with actual facts and good comments. I think your mom is calling – its dinner time
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:54:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241604psychoraider904 says:
Sep 4, 2011 10:44 PM
All of RaiderNation would like to give Josh McDaniels a big thank you for setting the Broncos back a few years.
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Raiders surge to 3rd place in 2nd worst division in FB.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:50:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241602scudbot says:
Sep 4, 2011 9:19 PM
“So why does Brian Xanders get a complete pass?” He doesn’t. Or shouldn’t. Neither should the owner.
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The one guy on this post that knows what he’s talking about. Denver was gutted by bad drafts. McDaniels was not the GM. He didn’t pick the players. Xanders and McDaniels were both too young and inexperienced for their jobs. To pine away for Cutler(benching himself with a boo-boo in the playoffs) and BJacobs is just stupid. Both losers. Bowlen made McDaniels the scapegoat.

McDaniels will be next Pats coach, 2014. You all will wish you had him too.

]]>By: dirtdawg55http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/mcbath-the-latest-mcdaniels-pick-to-get-booted/#comment-1241585
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 03:34:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241585And to think at the time Broncos fans were all abuzz over the prospect of having five picks in the first two rounds. Some thought it was the tooling of a dynasty. Well, it involved a tool alright.

As for those Ditka picks, those were traded to the Redskins. Casserly Then traded some of the picks away to Chicago and Denver. Chicago used the 1 in 1999 to take Cade McNown. Talk about a disastrous pick.

Casserly used the 1 in 2000 to take LaVar. That turned out slightly better, although not great considering how short his career was.

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:44:03 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241524All of RaiderNation would like to give Josh McDaniels a big thank you for setting the Broncos back a few years.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:28:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241492Were all you dumb ass Bronco fans saying all this crap about McDaniels when they were 6-0 in his first year as HC?

IMO, he was not ready to be a HC (same with Mangini), and I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been fired. His first draft killed him. 5 picks in the first 2 rounds, and he whiffed on all 5! Combine that with Denver’s 1st rounders last year (Tebow and Thomas), and that’s 0-7! If you miss that bad in your draft 2 years straight, then you have no chance!

I’m not familiar with Denver’s front office set up, but I highly doubt that McDaniels had final say on any draft pick as a 1st time, 30 somethin year old HC. Lot of blame to go around out there.

]]>By: Soulman45http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/mcbath-the-latest-mcdaniels-pick-to-get-booted/#comment-1241489
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:24:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241489THE GREAT DETROIT LIONS
would like to thank him for a TE.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:58:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241448but you could argue that his downfall really started on that first day . . . .
Who are we talking about, Obama?
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:57:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241446There are “strident Josh McDaniels loyalists”? Who? Where?
]]>By: scudbothttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/04/mcbath-the-latest-mcdaniels-pick-to-get-booted/#comment-1241352
Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:19:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241352“So why does Brian Xanders get a complete pass?” He doesn’t. Or shouldn’t. Neither should the owner.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:18:47 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241350The title should have been:

McBath the latest McDaniels pick to get Mcbooted: will we be seeing him soon at McDonalds?

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:00:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241327Save Fred Davis, Vinny Cerrato’s 2008 Flop of a draft not on the Redskins roster anymore.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:56:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241320So why does Brian Xanders get a complete pass? Explain. The Broncos were facing a transitional period regardless.
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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:55:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-12413175 picks in the first two rounds? Not since the Redskins with the Ricky Williams picks, has a team blown so much with so much. You have to walk with at least 2-3 sure fire studs with that much ammo.

That was Dallas that got all those picks. It was offered to the Bengals for their number 3 that year, but no, the Bengals turned it down and took Akili Smith, WTF

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No it was the Redskins. Ditka traded NO’s whole draft for him.

I think you’re thinking of the Herschel Walker to Minn trade

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:51:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241309scrotiemcb says:
Sep 4, 2011 7:56 PM
McD’s reign ended when you guys– the media– saw a convenient out from the increasingly stale boredom associated with ripping Jay Cutler, mostly through mocking the idea that he might be a franchise QB. Oh, those were the days…

But then Josh McD came along, took a phone call, and you morons left your dignity and shame in a ditch, enacted a 180 in mass, and declared Cutler the most promising young talent since that squeaky little front man for The Jackson 5. Oxygen starved Bronco fans– outraged that John Elways don’t grow on trees– drank it like fine wine, Jamie Dukes had a concept he could actually understand and process, and all the sudden McD was everybody’s favorite whipping boy since…gosh, I don’t think there is a precedent.

For the record, McBath was the 3rd best S on the Broncos roster. But you media guys get a big thumbs up for a job well done. Because not only did you play a big role in destroying a dude’s career– in exchange for unique freakin hits and talk radio props– but you also left plenty of collateral damage in the wake in the form of a string of guys who were just unlucky enough to be drafted by the wrong guy.
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Perfectly put. It gives me faith that there are other people out there that are willing to look beyond the obvious, even if it means giving up the right to relentlessly bash someone for the sake of feeling better about their football IQ.

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:48:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241305The Alphonso Smith pick hurts the most. Denver gave up their 1st in 2010 to Seattle which they used to get Earl Thomas.

The Redskins traded all but 3 of the picks and ended up with Lavar Arrington, and with the two trades with Chicago involving the saints picks, they drafted Champ Baily and Jon Janson.

They missed on a 4th Nate Stimson and a 5th Khari Samuel.

Looks like the only thing blown here was your post.

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Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:44:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=152287#comment-1241296scudbot says:
Sep 4, 2011 7:28 PM
I know he’s only the Rams OC but some of the puzzling decisions they made when cutting down had McDaniels doom stamped on them. Good luck surviving him, St. Louis.