Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
I don't know whether to take Anonymous serious or not. I don't see how defacing a government website will change anything... which seems to be the
extent of their revolution.

edit on 26-1-2013 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

it's not just defacing..

they said they have doc ready to release as necessary when the time should come .. there's a link on the first or 2nd page to all the docs file names
to be released..

All good points. The whole concept of Anon seemed to allow inclusion from all levels, This video is very polished and looks like a 3 letter acronym
production-which has got to twist the knickers on the 3 Letter Krewe. Because if it ain't an official release, who the hell is the embed that helped
put it out?
You may not like' em, but damn they're good and getting better!

most of the video looks like it came from Super Power and SP 2.. the pc game released back in 2000/2002(?).. so all they did was cut the video from
the game files and wala ..

Hello... Reading and watching the progress of the Anonymous group has greatly intrigued me. I have downloaded the Anonymous files for Operation Last
Resort they all are .rar files...So I extracted them and all it was a code. Is there any way to read what the files contain? Or am I missing
something... Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

The files are encrypted and the key for them is being held as the threat as many people will have downloaded the files and as such, have access to the
information. Assuming it isn't some virus or other malicious thing people have been tricked into downloading. Hard to say, it's been rather quiet.

Since fall 2010, MIT has been involved in events arising from actions taken by Aaron Swartz to access JSTOR through the MIT computer network. I have
asked you, and you have graciously agreed, to review MIT’s involvement.

The purpose of this review is to describe MIT’s actions and to learn from them. Your review should (1) describe MIT’s actions and decisions during
the period beginning when MIT first became aware of unusual JSTOR-related activity on its network by a then-unidentified person, until the death of
Aaron Swartz on January 11, 2013, (2) review the context of these decisions and the options that MIT considered, and (3) identify the issues that
warrant further analysis in order to learn from these events.

Which seems to be this guy. And check out his 'stats' and his current line of research, how very interesting.

Harold (Hal) Abelson is a Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT, a fellow of the IEEE, and is a founding director of both
Creative Commons and the Free Software Foundation.
Abelson holds an A.B. degree from Princeton University and obtained a Ph.D. degree in mathematics from MIT under the tutelage of mathematician Dennis
Sullivan. In 1992, Abelson was designated as one of MIT's six inaugural MacVicar Faculty Fellows, in recognition of his significant and sustained
contributions to teaching and undergraduate education. Abelson was recipient in 1992 of the Bose Award (MIT's School of Engineering teaching award).
Abelson is also the winner of the 1995 Taylor L. Booth Education Award given by IEEE Computer Society, cited for his continued contributions to the
pedagogy and teaching of introductory computer science,[1] and the winner of the 2012 ACM SIGCSE Award for Outstanding Contribution to Computer
Science Education.[2]

Abelson and Sussman also cooperate in codirecting the MIT Project on Mathematics and Computation, a project of the MIT Computer Science and Artificial
Intelligence Laboratory (previously a joint project of the AI Lab and LCS, CSAIL's components). The goal of the project is to create better
computational tools for scientists and engineers. But even with powerful numerical computers, exploring complex physical systems still requires
substantial human effort and human judgement to prepare simulations and to interpret numerical results. Together with their students, Abelson and
Sussman are combining techniques from numerical computing, symbolic algebra, and heuristic programming to develop programs that not only perform
massive numerical computations, but that also interpret these computations and "discuss" the results in qualitative terms. Programs such as these
could form the basis for intelligent scientific instruments that monitor physical systems based upon high-level behavioral descriptions. More
generally, they could lead to a new generation of computational tools that can autonomously explore complex physical systems, and which will play an
important part in the future practice of science and engineering. At the same time, these programs incorporate computational formulations of
scientific knowledge that can form the foundations of better ways to teach science and engineering.

Anonymous is just as dangerous as the elite and they should be stopped also.
I dont see whats so good about a group that we dont know , they hide behind their mask and with this tricks of them its possible they they make things
much worse.
Stupid bull# of them and setting up people and governments against each other,
Occupy movement is the same bull# ! How many lives has that cost now?
In Libia,Syria ,Egypt they want the extreme muslims at power and they want to start a civil war in the US now does that sound like a setup?

Anonymous is not Anonymous !!
Anonymous = Elite Powers = NATO = entities in US goverment
Those clowns dont have the best interest in normal working people so stop f adoring those ( Bad words go here)

Originally posted by Deadlychicken
You can't "turn off the internet" at this point. The internet is just a series of connections to different computers. The only thing they could do
is limit connections within the US itself. Even if they turned off the main backbones within the US, the people themselves could make their own
backbones and DNS servers and start the reconnection process themselves.The only expensive part would be the cabling which nowadays is not completely
necessary.

I honestly wouldn't bother. I don't think the driver knows how to get to that destination.

For some astonishing reason, everyone in the US thinks that they can just flip a switch and turn off the internet, because the entire internet is
encased in a single computer in the US.

The nature of it, never mind...

And if the logistics of the impossibility of it all is not acceptable, then there is that sneaky "Secret" switch.

The ones that will only get pulled when .. I dunno.. aliens land or something...

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
They're called M.A.E. Servers and there are a few of them. In reality, a couple more than this lists but one must remember this was all originally
built for the Department of Defense and Academia to share info (Academics) and maintain communication in the event of war. (The DOD side)..and the
apple never falls far. They are also not 'servers' per say but server farms. *HUGE* server farms. This sums up the public and pretty much the
majority of it though:

There are three major MAEs in the United States: MAE-East in the Washington, D.C. area; MAE-West in the San Jose, California area; and MAE-Central
in Dallas, Texas. These three points along with several interconnection points previously identified by the National Science Foundation as network
access points (NAPs) form what is sometimes considered the national commercial Internet backbone.

A MAE can be viewed as a giant local area network (LAN) switch. In fact, the three major MAEs use a Fiber Distributed-Data Interface (FDDI) switch.

When they talk about a kill switch, those are the places things would be turning off. Now, I think it would require a phone call to a company like
Equinix and perhaps a couple other places. A couple minutes, I'd guess. Neat huh? Unless things start turning off, of course.

You basically just explained why they can't shut down the internet. Oh, no one is saying that they can't cripple it for you guys.

But even when there were physical issues with the main link out of Sydney to the US/EU we still had access to the internet. Just not some websites and
not as reliable.

But while they're shutting down these servers in the US, and business start accruing immense debt due to loss of profit/capacity to work, when the
law suits come out then I'm sure we'll hear how it was something else...

But I'll still be accessing the servers I access (maybe not ATS) and doing what I do..

A couple of minutes..

I hope people don't really believe that. I'd hate to have to see it over and over again as we did when the FBI was turning off the internet to test
the kill switch by shutting off their own dns server they had put in place of a compromised dns server. Weeks and weeks of it. And.. Guess what. No
kill switch.

Originally posted by ezwip
If I count on my fingers the number of times Anonymous threatened to shut off the internet I'd need more hands. You couldn't force me to give a crap
if you posted a video on my website what the hell, seriously? If you need any more proof these idiots are the govt there ya go. The only thing that
comes of this frivolous and meaningless threat is more restrictions and monitoring of us all.

You're doing great. 2 for 2 posts that not only don't give any validity to the words you say, but also are completely barren of reality.

I'm sure you think Anon have said they will shut down the internet 11 times.

Thanks for posting that. You know, reading it shows that this is nothing but empty threats with no substance coupled with hypocrisy. They say

The contents are various and we won't ruin the speculation by revealing them. Suffice it to say, everyone has secrets and some things are not
meant to be public

Isn't transparency one of the things they're campaigning about or did I miss something?

edit on 26-1-2013 by FlySolo because: (no reason given)

You're missing something.

Some secrets (The ones that don't hurt people, and are important) are okay to be secrets. It's when you have secrets that in fact are harmful to one
another. Secrets of lies and harm that goes against another persons liberty.

They've said it more than 11 times. I'm not sure why but it really pisses me off the lack of knowledge ATS has on Anon and what Anon really is.
Some of you seem to think it's a group of elite "Haxors", but Anon is actually not a group at all, anyone can be apart of it. Anyone can post their
ideas, or their hatred towards something, and if enough people back those ideas the group becomes known as Anon. Naturally there will always be
hackers who join in on the raids.

What better way to take measures and blame the results on Anonymous. I direct you to examine the minute 6:40 in this video. Stating that Collateral
damage might result and is unavoidable.This statement allows for the possibility of warheads to be launched with no intended target, no intention of
war, simply an uncontained accident and uncontrollable consequence of Anonymous's retaliatory actions. OOOOps, one just fell on NK or Iran or
.....(insert aggressor nation)..... 'Sorry, it wasn't our intention to bomb you' were absolved from fault, it was Anonymous that is responsible.
You see where this 'could' go...?

Lots of folks say - let the chaos happen. Or they get disappointed when society doesn't melt down. But the fact is, A LOT of people will be hurting
in a big way if there is chaos. There are millions of people who depend on certain medicines in order to stay alive or to be able to function. Chaos
means no more medicine. Those people would die. And then there would be no antibiotics .. so any kid that gets tonsilitis would run the risk of
death. And then there would be no hospitals running ... so stroke and heart attack patients would all die. Heck ... people with an infected tooth
would die. Supply lines would be destroyed so everyone who doesn't live on a farm would starve. And even those on farms would starve because those
without would overrun them.

So I totally agree .... you people who want chaos haven't got a clue how bad that would be ...

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