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REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

Just received an email from WNDE that stated something along the lines that Reggie may be heading to NE! Up for free agency and the Colts have made no attempt to resign at this point. Also stated that Reggie would prefer to stay in Indy, but he isnt getting that vibe from the organization. Shoot me now if he heads to the fn Pats!

Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Re: REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

...A little surprising if he goes to NE but only because I wouldn't think they'd be high bidder. No surprising he'd end up a casualty of the housecleaning and rebuild. But then again, what is his market value after this past season?

We're probably going to see an era where the Colts look to let the star QB 'make' the receivers rather than have a collection of star receivers.

Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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All Wayne has said regarding the Pats is "Who wouldn't want to play there?" when Willie McGinest asked him if he was open to playing for New England. That's not exactly earth-shattering information. Of course Wayne would be open to playing for the Patriots if he was a free agent. HOF QB in Brady, HOF coach in BB, great organization, a chance for a ring, etc etc. It could be a good fit for both parties because the Pats need a deep threat and Wayne needs to be on a team that can win.

I think the only way we keep Wayne is if we decide to keep Manning, and even then I don't think the odds are particularly high that Wayne comes back. I doubt we spend a bunch of money on a 33 year old receiver if we have a rookie QB because we won't be contending for a SB if that's the case. You could make the case that Luck could lean on Wayne early on and that's a valid argument, but I'm confident that Garcon could develop a good chemistry with Luck if Luck is the starter next year.

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I'll add... Reggie is good but he's not 'Marvin Harrison in his prime' good. Even if he was, all things considered now I don't know how they'd attack that situation, but since he's not I think the odds drop considerably. Especially, if Manning doesn't factor into the future here.

Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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Re: REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

Shows you that players other than perhaps Brady and Manning are really not involved at all in so-called team rivalries, it's a fan thing.

Wayne, Mathis, Saturday, etc. all think "Heck yeah I would like to play in NE"

and if Indy were winning and the Patriots were not, Welker, Branch, Wilfork etc. would all think "Heck yeah I would like to play in Indy"

Thus it isn't really news. I would doubt that Reggie would take a low salary, and New England has to date never signed a big free agent contributor on offense (Moss=trade, Welker=trade, Dillon=trade, Ocho=trade (bad trade)) since they usually do not like to bid against anyone and pay a price too high.

They are the NFL's version of a moneyball team, and I doubt that a #2 WR in a 2 TE offense has an assigned value high enough to make Wayne jump up and down. Though to be fair, Ocho was supposed to fill that role and his contract, acquired in trade, paid him 6 million, not too far below what Wayne makes.

A more likely NE FA target is a stud defender like Mario Williams, and draft a speed WR.

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Branch always runs the right routes and makes the right decisions with respect to route adjustments based on the D, and has good hands. He just cannot separate any more, as in AT ALL.

Ochocinco runs good routes but makes the wrong decisions if there is an adjustment to be made based on coverage, has so-so hands, and cannot separate either.

They really need a speed guy. Reggie has the hands, has the route-running skills, and I would guess is intelligent enough to make route adjustments as needed. I can't tell how much speed he has lost. Thoughts?

Re: REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

Reggie was never a speed guy so it doesn't matter. Reggie is still an elite route runner though and that is how he gets his separation. I think a Wayne/Welker combo with a speed guy peppered in either as a slot receiver or replacing Wayne/Welker in certain situations would be an extremely deadly combo.

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I would root for reggie in NE if he were to go there. He is one of my favorite players and I would wish him the best. The only thing is that they have a ton of possesion receiving threats and they need speed. I don't see reggie filling a need for them.

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I could see the team not looking to re-sign Reggie if we were bringing Manning back. Manning has been able to turn guys like Stokely and Collie into very good WRs so bringing in a cheaper guy and letting Manning do his thing makes sense.

To me what does not make sense is going all in with Luck and not bringing back the most reliable weapon we have on offense.

Clark: Injury prone and was nowhere to be seen without Manning this season.
Garcon: One play he is great and the next he is terrible. The guy is the definition of inconsistent.
Collie: No where to be seen without Manning
Rookie: Most rookie WRs take a few years to get into their groove unless they are just a beast like Megatron or Fitz.

Wayne may not be a speed guy like Jackson, but defenses still have to respect him if he goes deep. They would probably be better off getting DeSean, but putting Wayne out there will do nothing but improve that offense.

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I would root for reggie in NE if he were to go there. He is one of my favorite players and I would wish him the best. The only thing is that they have a ton of possesion receiving threats and they need speed. I don't see reggie filling a need for them.

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Re: REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

The Colts weren't going to resign him anyways. He will have some good value with the Pats in their offense, but for us, he isn't really enough. Reggie never really gets any seperation on his routes, he isn't quick or fast enough to get away from Db's. Though that isn't everything, if your not a guy that runs Db's over after the catch, it really helps to be able to get away from them. Reggie has some of the best hands in the league and will be an asset to NE, however, it won't be much of a loss to us without Manning as QB. Luck wouldn't have the chemistry with Wayne that Peyton had.

If he goes to NE, when they come to Indy ill boo him every chance i get. Buisness is buisness. You choose to side with the enemy, you are the enemy.

On a side note, my friend is a big Bengals fan and he says Cincy is going after Garcon.. So things could get really interesting if we lose both Pierre and Reggie... Desean Jackson anyone??

Re: REGGIE WAYNE TO NEW ENGLAND?!! WTF!

Reggie has always been fairly overrated as a receiver. Much more of a product of Peyton than anything else, whereas Marvin and Peyton mutually benefited from each other. Wayne was a guy who could rarely gain much separation and needed a qb with pinpoint accuracy to deliver him the ball. Without that, Wayne was an above average receiver. Surely this opinion isn't shared by most "fanboys", but it is not one unique to just me.