Two great TE prospects, I don't know if we have ever seen a class with more than one potentially elite TE prospect.

I don't think you can go wrong. ASJ is more of a "traditional" TE prospect in that he is well rounded and has everything you look for in the position, but his athleticism is unreal for a player of his size. Most tight ends his size don't have that kind of athleticism, he could be the next Gronk.

Lyerla is just an absolute freak of nature. I don't really know if we have seen a player like him, he lines up at running back sometimes. This year will be big for him because he was used all over the place under Kelly and it was kind of tough to evaluate him as a TE but that wil definitely be his NFL position, and he has the tools to be an unbelievable one. He can split out wide and even carry the ball. I hate to use another Pats comparison but he does the things for the Ducks that Hernandez does for the Pats.

Lyerla has uncommon athleticism and his potential is limitless, but personally I would take ASJ right now. He has everything you look and more for in a true TE prospect. Lyerla is a first rounder on talent alone, if he has a big year they are both potential top 10 picks.

I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever watched ASJ. But I love Lyerla. He is versatile and athletic. The only issue is that Chip Kelly didn't fully utilize him. Hopefully he is a bigget weapon next season. I really hope he ends up on the Bears in 2014.

Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

I have broken down either player much, but from the little bit I have seen of each player I prefer Seferian-Jenkins. He's got exceptional size and the production to back up his abilities. With Lyerla, he wasn't maximized by Chip Kelly and with good quarterback play this should be a big year for someone with his skills.

Lyerla is a great prospect in his own right and may have been the top guy if he was eligible for the 2013 draft, but ASJ is the top TE prospect we've had in the last 5 years IMO. The closest there is to Jimmy Graham and is a can't-miss prospect at the TE position. His size and leaping ability, combined with above average speed for the position make him a very intriguing top half of the first round selection for 2014. Mark it down.

Too bad his quarterback and offense suck, because he is being criminally underused. To that same effect, too bad he's also a criminal.

ASJ is absolutely one of the three or four best pure receiving TE prospect of the last decade, in my opinion. With a big year, he could easily be a top 5 pick.

Lyerla, however, is a prospect with a lot of potential. His versatility and open field ability is much better than ASJ, although he isn't as tall or spectacular at making difficult catches. I really like the comparison to a much taller Aaron Hernandez.

It really will depend on two things. A) What Lyerla produces this year; ASJ really has enough film that he isn't going to fall out of the first barring injury or more character concerns being raised, but Lyerla needs a really good year to be what people hope he is. B) what teams are looking for. A pure, TD machine Tight End or a Versatile H-Back/TE/FB.

Regardless, both are potentially much better prospects than anyone we've had the last couple of years.

Lyerla is a great prospect in his own right and may have been the top guy if he was eligible for the 2013 draft, but ASJ is the top TE prospect we've had in the last 5 years IMO. The closest there is to Jimmy Graham and is a can't-miss prospect at the TE position. His size and leaping ability, combined with above average speed for the position make him a very intriguing top half of the first round selection for 2014. Mark it down.

Too bad his quarterback and offense suck, because he is being criminally underused. To that same effect, too bad he's also a criminal.

ASJ is absolutely one of the three or four best pure receiving TE prospect of the last decade, in my opinion. With a big year, he could easily be a top 5 pick.

Lyerla, however, is a prospect with a lot of potential. His versatility and open field ability is much better than ASJ, although he isn't as tall or spectacular at making difficult catches. I really like the comparison to a much taller Aaron Hernandez.

It really will depend on two things. A) What Lyerla produces this year; ASJ really has enough film that he isn't going to fall out of the first barring injury or more character concerns being raised, but Lyerla needs a really good year to be what people hope he is. B) what teams are looking for. A pure, TD machine Tight End or a Versatile H-Back/TE/FB.

Regardless, both are potentially much better prospects than anyone we've had the last couple of years.

Right now? ASJ no question. He has produced. When you look at his physical ability, it's game film in pads.

Lyerla -- if you look at his physical ability, it's in shorts and in a gym. He has tantalizing athleticism. But at some point the rubber needs to meet the road.

ASJ has already played up to heightened expectation and surpassed it. He took over games from a position that is difficult to accomplish that. Lyerla needs to be more than a footnote on a stat sheet to ascend to Jenkins' value. No matter how he looks in tights.

Statistically, it's hard to compare the two. Oregon probably enjoys 30% or more snaps per game than Washington does. But they also have way more talented options to go to. ASJ has great production but there wasn't a lot of other decent options to go to. And Price -- well he's a ruined prospect now. He feels pressure that isn't there and he just chucks it to ASJ and lets him go get it or outfight for it.

If you are a terrible team that needs a player to shoulder all the pressure and passing load, then ASJ is definitely your guy. Lyerla -- I don't think there is any way of really *knowing* if he can produce being the focal point of a passing attack. He certainly is explosive -- but defenses don't key on him because they can't.

Both look really good. But I don't see Lyerla being a top 10 guy. ASJ is a top 10 guy. He can and does regularly carry his team despite being bracketed in coverage and fighting safety help over the top. Lyerla will never be in a position to demonstrate that for Oregon.

Very well articulated...I agree on all points. Colt is fun to watch, but at this point, he is almost a gimmick with vast potential. ASJ is producing at a high level.

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Right now? ASJ no question. He has produced. When you look at his physical ability, it's game film in pads.

Lyerla -- if you look at his physical ability, it's in shorts and in a gym. He has tantalizing athleticism. But at some point the rubber needs to meet the road.

ASJ has already played up to heightened expectation and surpassed it. He took over games from a position that is difficult to accomplish that. Lyerla needs to be more than a footnote on a stat sheet to ascend to Jenkins' value. No matter how he looks in tights.

Statistically, it's hard to compare the two. Oregon probably enjoys 30% or more snaps per game than Washington does. But they also have way more talented options to go to. ASJ has great production but there wasn't a lot of other decent options to go to. And Price -- well he's a ruined prospect now. He feels pressure that isn't there and he just chucks it to ASJ and lets him go get it or outfight for it.

If you are a terrible team that needs a player to shoulder all the pressure and passing load, then ASJ is definitely your guy. Lyerla -- I don't think there is any way of really *knowing* if he can produce being the focal point of a passing attack. He certainly is explosive -- but defenses don't key on him because they can't.

Both look really good. But I don't see Lyerla being a top 10 guy. ASJ is a top 10 guy. He can and does regularly carry his team despite being bracketed in coverage and fighting safety help over the top. Lyerla will never be in a position to demonstrate that for Oregon.

Both look really good. But I don't see Lyerla being a top 10 guy. ASJ is a top 10 guy. He can and does regularly carry his team despite being bracketed in coverage and fighting safety help over the top. Lyerla will never be in a position to demonstrate that for Oregon.

All it takes is one team to drool over someone's potential from a height/weight/athleticism standpoint. Look at DHB, Bruce Irvin, etc..

With the NFL becoming more and more of a sometimes gimmicky passing game, Lyerla will have creative offensive coaches drooling. I agree that ASJ is the better prospect but you also aren't going to line him up as an H-Back or have him run the ball or these other things you could play with when you have a guy like Lyerla.

I agree he needs a big year but I wouldn't be absolutely shocked if he went first. Not because he's a better prospect, he won't be, but because he offers things ASJ doesn't.

All it takes is one team to drool over someone's potential from a height/weight/athleticism standpoint. Look at DHB, Bruce Irvin, etc..

Well there is no accounting for stupidity. If the question was 'can he be a top 10 pick?', then by that measure anyone can and the question is moot.

Irvin wasn't a top 10 guy. DHB shouldn't have been a top 50 guy. Irvin however was wildly productive in college (and productive in the NFL) and productive at a key, game impacting role.

The question was a comparison between the two. Which by inference means we have to judge them by our own individual criteria. Not bound by ridiculous fantasies of a demented GM for whom the NFL had completely passed him by. In my opinion, Lyerla both hasn't done anything to merit top 10 consideration, and relative to one that clearly has -- it doesn't leave a lot of room for Lyerla to break into that.

Lyerla will need to be featured at Oregon to merit that. My guess is, the nature of the overall talent on that team will not be conducive to that. Because there are going to be QBs, LTs, DEs, WRs and other athletic freaks at positions that are far more impactful than an ancillary 2nd TE will be. ASJ is an everydown TE who is an asset in all phases of the game. If you're a team picking in the top 10, then you probably are missing a lot of players at positions of high impact.

TE, by it's nature, doesn't translate to wins very well. If you're a broken team and you are going to pick a TE that early, then he HAS to be dominant. Someone that can take a dominant place in a teams' passing attack. Because to take a TE that early, you are letting other excellent prospects slide off the board.

Colt can (should) be an awesome TE and could even be a better receiving TE in the pros. I like his athleticism and potential very much. Particularly for Seattle. But I suspect his value is going to put him in the late teens/20s and he'll be picked by a team that isn't broken and can afford to take a role/niche player with their first pick. I agree, teams are featuring H Back types more. But teams that can get value out of those players tend to be set at the foundation positions on the team. And those teams don't pick in the top 10 often.

ASJ is more like a Vernon Davis prospect. Lyerla more like a Graham prospect. Any team that takes either of those players should be happy.

Also, as you mention, college is ripe with H backs. Seattle drafts one seemingly every single year. But the Zach Miller/Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski prospects that can do it all are far more rare than receiving TEs. A team can get a lesser H Back and get acceptable production from them. But the difference between a good receiving in line TE v. a lesser one is immense.