So, Peton Manning is obviously not Vick, he's much, much smarter. So, Do we blitz him like we did Vick or not? I say no because Peyton picks that up better than any QB in the league and will pick you apart with the hot read. Vick was too dumb to see that. But, I do think Gun will pick some good timing blitzes and if Peyton gets off the pass, he needs to get hammered. By the way, everyone going to the game, including me, get LOUD. I don't care if it didn't work last January, it sure as hell doesn't hurt and once you get Peyton's goofy ass picked off a couple times or put him in the grass, he starts blaming the receviers or the linemen. IT'S ON

GMitch

10-29-2004, 11:01 PM

It seems to me that they should be having people jumping in and out of the line on almost every play, faking a blitz. Then actually blitz on about every tenth play. Get Manning and his receivers out of sync on their blitz reads and nail him once in a while. Whatever, if the front four can't get some consistent pressure we've got problems.

Chief Fanatic

10-29-2004, 11:03 PM

agreed :thumb:

Stryker

10-29-2004, 11:08 PM

I want to see this bitch covered, rushed, pancaked, sacked so badly that you can not read the back of his jersey. I guess I want extreme revenge.

DAMN! I HATE THE COLTS!!

Numbah One

10-29-2004, 11:08 PM

I would send one guy at Manning on every play. Have him disregard play action fakes and just go right for Manning.

KCJake

10-29-2004, 11:19 PM

A lot of it depends on how well the front four play. If we can get pressure on Manning with the down linemen, we won't have to blitz as much. Or something.........

KcMizzou

10-29-2004, 11:25 PM

I would send one guy at Manning on every play. Have him disregard play action fakes and just go right for Manning. Yeah, and it should be a different guy every play. It has to be disguised.. keep him guessing. That's something we couldn't do at ALL last time.

Numbah One

10-29-2004, 11:29 PM

Yeah, and it should be a different guy every play. It has to be disguised.. keep him guessing. That's something we couldn't do at ALL last time.

Good idea. We already know Gunther is good at this. Last week on Bartee's sack, he lined up as if he was going to cover the receiver in front of him. He gave away no indication that he was going to blitz.

I am just glad we get to face a statue QB for once. Vick and Leftwich running around was annoying.

If those refs screw us on one of those in the grasp calls this week I'm going to be pissed.

Brando

10-29-2004, 11:33 PM

I think Peyton thrives to play against the blitz. He studies film more than most of us have studied the Paris Hilton video. He also loves to audible.
I think the key with him is tight coverage on his receivers and strong penetration by our down linemen.

KcMizzou

10-29-2004, 11:39 PM

I think Peyton thrives to play against the blitz. He studies film more than most of us have studied the Paris Hilton video. He also loves to audible.
I think the key with him is tight coverage on his receivers and strong penetration by our down linemen. I agree completely... but I don't know that they can consistantly get it done. I hope they can, but the odd blitz from an unexpected angle could help, as long as they don't tip their hand before the snap.*

* That's key.

Brando

10-29-2004, 11:44 PM

I have to agree with that..hopefully we'll see more of his idiot kicker on the highlights than him.

KCJake

10-29-2004, 11:50 PM

"He studies film more than most of us have studied the Paris Hilton video. He also loves to audible."
ROFL

cdcox

10-29-2004, 11:55 PM

Since dirty play is now considered justified, I think we should have Holiday (i.e., expendible player) knock him to the ground, grab him by the face mask, and slam his head against the turf until blood pours from the earholes on his helmet.

KcMizzou

10-29-2004, 11:55 PM

"He studies film more than most of us have studied the Paris Hilton video. He also loves to audible."
ROFL Audible means switching hands, right?

Chief Fanatic

10-30-2004, 12:09 AM

I think Peyton thrives to play against the blitz. He studies film more than most of us have studied the Paris Hilton video. He also loves to audible.
I think the key with him is tight coverage on his receivers and strong penetration by our down linemen.
He definitely thrives on the blitz. So, a good disguise is mandatory. How about our corners playing very phsyical off the line. Bartee and Warfield definetely can fit that mold.

morphius

10-30-2004, 12:28 AM

The one good thing we know is that Gun has been playing Manning at least twice a year for the last 3 years, so he probably has a pretty good feeling about what to do.

Of course Gun has called a lot of corner blitz's and rolling a LB in coverage, which could be very dangerous with this WR.

ChiefFripp

10-30-2004, 12:41 AM

Madden says we should blitz if it appears to be working and not to if it's failing.

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 12:49 AM

Madden says we should blitz if appears to be working and not to if it's failing. That's great advice.

Demonpenz

10-30-2004, 01:09 AM

gunther is going to have some nasty shit dialed up

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 01:20 AM

gunther is going to have some nasty shit dialed up God, I hope so. If we hold them to 20 or less I'll do a Gaz-esque happy dance sans-clothing.

ChiefFripp

10-30-2004, 01:21 AM

That's great advice.
One thing you can say about Madden is that he'll shoot you straight :)

BIG K

10-30-2004, 01:33 AM

Since dirty play is now considered justified, I think we should have Holiday (i.e., expendible player) knock him to the ground, grab him by the face mask, and slam his head against the turf until blood pours from the earholes on his helmet.

Now that is a great idea! We should start a drive right now to pay for the fines levied by the NFL. I will kick in $100.00 bucks right now...It has to happen in the first quarter though for it to make an impact. :p

philfree

10-30-2004, 03:00 AM

We are gonna have to blitz some and we do we need to make it count. IMO in Guns scheme it's easier to to hide the blitz because we are most always attacking the backfield anyway. I'm pretty confident that Gun will call a good game so...........I can't wait.

PhilFree :arrow:

chiefsfan987

10-30-2004, 04:01 AM

on an unrelated note I pose my stupid question of the day.... rather than making noise during a fieldgoal attempt... does anyone think if 80,000 fans instead forcefully blew air out thier mouths into the face of a kicker if it could generate enough swirling wind to change the course of a football... I know its a stupid question but I'm curious.

cheeeefs

10-30-2004, 04:04 AM

isn't yelling and screaming forcefully blowing air out of your mouth?

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 04:09 AM

on an unrelated note I pose my stupid question of the day.... rather than making noise during a fieldgoal attempt... does anyone think if 80,000 fans instead forcefully blew air out thier mouths into the face of a kicker if it could generate enough swirling wind to change the course of a football... I know its a stupid question but I'm curious. You're right... it's a stupid question. A stupid, insanely moronic question.

I explain why it's moronic in a niceish way... you just go for the jugular man. you like to make peoples' hearts hurt.

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 04:22 AM

on an unrelated note I pose my stupid question of the day.... rather than making noise during a fieldgoal attempt... does anyone think if 80,000 fans instead forcefully blew air out thier mouths into the face of a kicker if it could generate enough swirling wind to change the course of a football... I know its a stupid question but I'm curious. You actually want people to "blow" to create some sort of wind that'll create enough power to change the direction of a field goal?

You're massively, insanely, incredibly stupid. I've rarely heard anything as retarded as this, posted on this board. You should be ashamed. You should be ashamed, and you should go kick your momma's ass for ever giving birth to you.

Ask a buddy to kick you in the balls while you're at it. Just for good measure.

Thank you.

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 04:23 AM

I explain why it's moronic in a niceish way... you just go for the jugular man. you like to make peoples' hearts hurt. (the previous post is on cheeefs)

cheeeefs

10-30-2004, 04:25 AM

(the previous post is on cheeefs)

you want me to kick him in the balls?

tk13

10-30-2004, 04:28 AM

I don't know about blowing into a FG, but there are probably more than a few girls out there who could suck a bowling ball through a straw that we could put in one endzone so Tynes can kick a 75 yarder...

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 04:29 AM

you want me to kick him in the balls? Heh... Sure!

KcMizzou

10-30-2004, 04:31 AM

I don't know about blowing into a FG, but there are probably more than a few girls out there who could suck a bowling ball through a straw that we could put in one endzone so Tynes can kick a 75 yarder...
ROFL I could nominate a couple.

Ok.... one.

Gaz

10-30-2004, 07:27 AM

Gunther has to do a better job of disguising the blitzes. We need to fake it more and bring the delayed blitz sometimes. And we need to bring it right up the middle. Last game, Robinson telegraphed the blitzes so much that they had no chance to get to Manning.

We cannot just line up everyone at the LOS and go after the pencil-neck. I know: I cannot believe I just said that, either.

xoxo~
Gaz
Does not want to be able to predict a blitz from home.

Warrior5

10-30-2004, 09:06 AM

I have to believe that Gun has gameplanned for Colts, and a key part will be disguising the blitzes.

I know the Colts will get their passing yards, but the corners have GOT to jam the Colt recievers to allow D-line penetration; they MUST get into Manning's face, disrupt his passing lanes, and force feed him Tuba's turf often.

...a spy on EJ won't hurt either.

Bowser

10-30-2004, 09:14 AM

Pressure from the front four will be key. I wouldn't blitz as much as usual, Manning destroys the blitz.

Oxford

10-30-2004, 10:28 AM

on an unrelated note I pose my stupid question of the day.... rather than making noise during a fieldgoal attempt... does anyone think if 80,000 fans instead forcefully blew air out thier mouths into the face of a kicker if it could generate enough swirling wind to change the course of a football... I know its a stupid question but I'm curious.

Better idea -- set up the massive cooling fans in the runway behind the goal post to create a jet stream effect to affect the ball flight, or on each snap have a massive strobe light blind Manning so he'll have trouble seeing his receivers......

Bowser

10-30-2004, 10:29 AM

Better idea -- set up the massive cooling fans in the runway behind the goal post to create a jet stream effect to affect the ball flight, or on each snap have a massive strobe light blind Manning so he'll have trouble seeing his receivers......

We could always send Tonya Harding and her flunkies after Peyton to kneecap him with a lead pipe!

Tinlar

10-30-2004, 10:32 AM

This guy lives off the Blitz. I think we should put in the blitz in very rare doses, keep the crowd level high and stack the line to look like our blitz packages every play of the first quarter. He'll get tired of play changes at the line for no reason and doubt his ability to read our D.

Then, in the mid and late games, if Gun wants to he can unleash his hounds. I however see no reason to ever actually blitz this guy provided we get even moderate pressure from out extra guys.

Cochise

10-30-2004, 10:38 AM

We need bigtime pressure from the front 4 this week. I'm not too confident in our ability to keep Harrison/Wayne/Stokley at bay, so it may become a necessity to blitz later in the game.

Then again, Jax beat them last week with Manning still throwing for about 300 yards, 3TD, 0 INT, and with Edge still putting up 87 yards.

the Talking Can

10-30-2004, 10:45 AM

the DL has to generate its own pressure...if they aren't pushing the line back and clogging lanes no amount of blitzing will save us

go bowe

10-30-2004, 11:18 AM

the DL has to generate its own pressure...if they aren't pushing the line back and clogging lanes no amount of blitzing will save usisn't that the same defensive line that most people were moaning about not so very long ago??

hicks is still starting, isn't he?

is it likely that hicks and co. can actually pressure manning consistently?

otoh, at least we should get some pressure up the middle with dalton...

but siavii is out... :(

Brando

10-30-2004, 11:34 AM

I say we put a Saints helmet in whatever endzone the Dolts are going towards. That should keep anyone of the Manning's running the other direction.

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:43 AM

I want to see this bitch covered, rushed, pancaked, sacked so badly that you can not read the back of his jersey. I guess I want extreme revenge.

DAMN! I HATE THE COLTS!!
I want huge chunks of Arrohead sod wedged in the top part of his face mask.

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:44 AM

Yeah, and it should be a different guy every play. It has to be disguised.. keep him guessing. That's something we couldn't do at ALL last time.
And f it if they get a big play and score, that will just mean our O gets back out ther to control the clock and rests our D so they can keep blitzing. :p

Brando

10-30-2004, 11:45 AM

I want huge chunks of Arrohead sod wedged in the top part of his face mask.
I think that I would settle for watching Gunther plunger rape him.

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:48 AM

Madden says we should blitz if it appears to be working and not to if it's failing.
Brilliant, jus fuggin brilliant analysis.

I guess on my resume to ABC it should read, Fat, ex coach, and the incanny ability to state the obvious in a way a 3rd grader would get it.

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:49 AM

You actually want people to "blow" to create some sort of wind that'll create enough power to change the direction of a field goal?

You're massively, insanely, incredibly stupid. I've rarely heard anything as retarded as this, posted on this board. You should be ashamed. You should be ashamed, and you should go kick your momma's ass for ever giving birth to you.

Ask a buddy to kick you in the balls while you're at it. Just for good measure.

Thank you.
That suggestion blows, officially.

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:50 AM

I don't know about blowing into a FG, but there are probably more than a few girls out there who could suck a bowling ball through a straw that we could put in one endzone so Tynes can kick a 75 yarder...
ROFL :clap: teh rep

Calcountry

10-30-2004, 11:52 AM

Pressure from the front four will be key. I wouldn't blitz as much as usual, Manning destroys the blitz.
Dalton is the man.

RedNFeisty

10-30-2004, 12:26 PM

IIRC when Gun came back he was asked about the playoff game with the Colts, he said that he would have made them punt at least once. I think this is a game for Gun to prove himself. I think he will come out wanting to waste Manning and the Colts.

I am leary of this game. The Chiefs did such a great job last week, I pray they come out pumped for this game and really kick some ass!!

I can't leave out that Manning is my FFL QB, so I do want to see him throw some long bombs to the endzone, but I do want to see the Chiefs put him back in diapers for just this week!!

Deberg_1990

10-30-2004, 12:35 PM

Sucks that Siavii is out......So is Browning our only backup interior D-lineman now?

Mr. Laz

10-30-2004, 01:32 PM

So, Peton Manning is obviously not Vick, he's much, much smarter. So, Do we blitz him like we did Vick or not? I say no because Peyton picks that up better than any QB in the league and will pick you apart with the hot read. Vick was too dumb to see that. But, I do think Gun will pick some good timing blitzes and if Peyton gets off the pass, he needs to get hammered. By the way, everyone going to the game, including me, get LOUD. I don't care if it didn't work last January, it sure as hell doesn't hurt and once you get Peyton's goofy ass picked off a couple times or put him in the grass, he starts blaming the receviers or the linemen. IT'S ON
to blitz or not the blitz is a none question IMO

we MUST blitz... MUST!!

its how well we blitz is the real question/concern

if we disguise it well, time them well ... 'tis all good

we do that same moronic execution of blitzing that we did under Knobson then we are dead in the water regardless.

philfree

10-30-2004, 02:37 PM

we do that same moronic execution of blitzing that we did under Knobson then we are dead in the water regardless.

Guns blitz schemnes are only about 100 times better then the Knobs. Even without blitzing we have a push up the middle then we had last year and we also have Allen coming of the corner. Both of those things are good by themselves of course but it also makes our blitzs better. I just wanna see Paidaton Womanning get the pooh kicked out of him.

PhilFree :arrow:

Hydrae

10-30-2004, 04:14 PM

God, I hope so. If we hold them to 20 or less I'll do a Gaz-esque happy dance sans-clothing.

Please don't. :Lin:

milkman

10-30-2004, 07:24 PM

isn't that the same defensive line that most people were moaning about not so very long ago??

hicks is still starting, isn't he?

is it likely that hicks and co. can actually pressure manning consistently?

otoh, at least we should get some pressure up the middle with dalton...

but siavii is out... :(

The fact that we have a DT, in Dalton, that can get a push in the middle, means tha we can get pressure from the front four, unlike last season.

The O-Line will have to double Dalton, making Sims more effective.
Hicks is getting more pressure from his side as a result also, and Allen, with his speed and quickness, will be able to get a few hits on Manning.

Dalton has been an impact player thus far this season.
He, along with Gun's more aggressive approach have really made a big difference.