On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:49:43 +0200, William Loughborough
<love26@gorge.net> wrote:
>> From : Anne van Kesteren[mailto:annevk@opera.com]
>> I don't really see how this is fair. That there's disagreement over
> certain things related to accessibility doesn't mean that accessibility
> isn't taken seriously. It just means that not everyone is on the same
> side
> of the table when it comes to that subject.
>
> "that subject"?
Accessibility?
> Is it possible that after a decade of attempts to integrate
> accessibility into
> design we are still in an us/them configuration?
I'm not sure what this means, but it does seem that after a decade of
usage people have started getting divergent views on the success of having
the alt="" attribute be required for instance.
> Accessibility to the Web is the cornerstone of the World Wide Web, not
> some bolted-on characteristic.
I don't think anyone necessarily disagrees with that. It's the how we get
there that people disagree over.
> When an attempt is made to sacrifice one of the "poster children" of the
> effort (the compulsory
> nature of the @alt), it will soon emerge that there are those of us for
> whom this "child" is as important as our own.
That's ok, most people have strong views on one part or another.
> No matter how hard one tries to disguise the implicit bigotry in this
> "war of @alt - now in it's
> second decade - the fact that keeps shining through is that <img>
> without required @alt is so unacceptable as to beggar understanding.
>
> The position that because there are cases in which its inclusion is
> inconvenient and deserves
> another round of justification for accessibility's seamless
> inclusion/integration is patently absurd.
>
> We are all in this together We are all members of one another
> Universal Connection/Accessibility is a Human Right.
I don't really see how it is patently absurd. Dismissing the scenario
where the author of the HTML can't provide alt="" and therefore makes
something up to get rid of validation messages will not help us move
forward here. Whether this is addressed using <img src=vacation.jpg
noalt>, <img src=vacation.jpg alt=Photo important>, <img
src=vacation.jpg>, etc. is what is under discussion now.
--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://annevankesteren.nl/>
<http://www.opera.com/>