It would be unfortunate but as a team we should be ok because of the past two years of rectuiting. If a few of them don't develop to be solid at worst than we have bigger problems than recruiting, but I find that very, very unlikely. Jefferson will probably be very good for who ever he plays for, but so will Peete and Stump (I think Kirk is more of an H-back and that's a different enough position that I'm not including it).

I think his father has concerns about how our receivers are used. Van would already be a buckeye if his parents didn't want him to be patient and take some more visits before deciding. Just have to get him back on campus and go from there...

I know that the old adage is that you take DLinemen and OLinemen in every single class. i wonder if that is true of WR too? They have soe depth, and while Kirk is a good player (and probably not a Buckeye), what they need is exactly what Jefferson is - a big receiver who runs great routes, and can pick up 3rd down conversions to take the pressure off of the run game.

Peete is a good player, and may replace what Jefferson offers, but not if his 247 ratings are to be believed.Maybe Stump can replace that skill set? But OSU would have to offer soon to get him IMO.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

"What if?" it sounds more like a "when" right now....unless he visits again, then it's anybody's game. I like Peete, but honestly, besides Kirk, Jefferson and Peete, I haven't paid much attention to the WR position. I remember hearing that Alex Stump, who is a KY commit could still be a possibility. I'm not so sure that WR is a dire need this class. We have recruited exceptionally well these past couple of classes.

Urban has targeted that big tall #1 type WR ever since he stepped on campus and hasnt landed one yet. He is very selective with the tall ones and it just hasnt worked out yet. Hopefully we land one this year.

I don't believe Jefferson goes elsewhere if he makes that visit on July 16th. But if he does, I could see the staff pushing for Peete, or going after Stump. There's also still ATH Brian Cole out there, #1 prospect in Michigan who visited Ohio State back in March. He is currently planning another visit to Ohio State and we are recruiting him as a WR. Kid is definitely the real deal.

I'm a big Brian Cole fan, so far it looks like he's going to stay close to home and with the dumpster fire at Michigan and Michigan's states offense staying vanilla we could be a player in his recruitment.

It will be tough to pull him away from MSU. Dad is a big MSU fan, and they're selling him on being a 1st round corner, like Dennard and possibly Waynes. If Ohio State can convince him that he's better suited on offense than on defense, then I believe we can pull it off. Narduzzi leaving for a head coaching job also would help our chances.

Kirk is a slot receiver here and Hines is a wingback. To be a H-Back, you have to be able to block LBs and sometimes defensive linemen who bust through the offensive line. You also have to be able to catch and run from time to time. Someone like Noah Brown would be the perfect H-Back. Maybe even Terry McLaurin if he gets big enough, but Kirk and Hines are not blocking any LBs.

With all due respect to Meyer, the only guys on that list that played for him are Percy Harvin, whose game is not at all like Jefferson's, and Riley Cooper. I think that his dad's reservations are spot on in this case. I'd love to see him as a Buckeye, as they desperately need a big target who can pick up first downs. Honestly, I think that Shawn's concerns are justified. However, it's not as if Butch Jones's systems have ever produced a ton of NFL players either, so who knows?.

I think that the longer this drags out, the more unlikely it is that he's a Buckeye. It looks like maybe Peete will be the only WR in this class. I have asked before, but is it possible that Meyer and Co. would settle for going 0-for WRs in this class, given the depth, youth, and talent currently on the roster, and focus on 2016? Or is it possible that the need for WR is why OSU is getting back into the thick of the Torrance Gibson discussion...

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

To be fair, which NCAA coach currently has a strong resume for producing receivers? Hate to say it, but you should probably include Hernandez. He is obviously a horrible person but when he was in, he was a fantastic pass-catcher.

Re: production of WRs, I am just trying to say that Shawn has a point, as Meyer's systems have never really "featured" the types of receiver skills that the NFL covets. Of course, the irony is, there is no indication that Butch's systems have either.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

You are right there, it does seem somewhat more suited to a college-game. That said, it's amazing how there's a stigma that pro-style offenses produce the best pro-style talent, yet schools like Oklahoma and USC haven't really done anything in regards to producing any decent receivers. The ultimate irony? Arguably the two best WRs in the NFL come from the option running/no passing offense at Georgia Tech.

Visit has been confirmed per Bill Kurelic. Van Jefferson will visit Ohio State with mom and dad on the 16th which will be his last visit before deciding on his school of choice, which will most likely be on the 26th (Van Jefferson's birthday).

Hope everything went well. This offense is starved for a big receiver who can go across the middle, pick up first downs, and be a legit red zone threat. I was hoping that would be Chris Fields, but it never really materialized. Apparently Van is an exceptional route runner with great hands, and those are two traits that I love seeing in a wideout (Rice, Carter, etc.) as opposed to just out and out speed (Heyward-Bay). Of course, I think given the choice, we'd like to have it all.

I think Jefferson could be stud in college, and every bit as good as his father if he finds the right fit. I certainly hope that fit is in Columbus, and then maybe Cleveland...

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill