IMO wrote:
I dunno. Below a certain level, I just think "What is the point". Surely a stereo headset wouldn't have been that much more expensive?

Say they sell 10 million units, and they spend an extra £1.50 for a stereo headset in each pack, you do the math.

It's an expense they can, and indeed, should (in my opinion) absorb. Either put something in the box that's fit for purpose, or don't put it in at all (and save even more money - if you're so concerned). Of course, all this is moot if the headset is 'good enough', in my experience though, headsets like that rarely are.

The people who care about sound quality will go out and buy their turtle beaches anyway, so the extra money would be wasted. The people who just want to talk and don't care about quality will be happy with what they get and would not notice the upgrade.

RyanDS wrote:
The people who care about sound quality will go out and buy their turtle beaches anyway, so the extra money would be wasted. The people who just want to talk and don't care about quality will be happy with what they get and would not notice the upgrade.

Yeah. It makes sense really. I don't want to pay extra for something I'll probably not use. Conversely, given that Onesie will be concentrating on an on-line experience, it would have made more sense for them to include a basic headset but they haven't.

Does the Vita include headphones? I'd rather it was a decent headset which I could then also plug into a Vita/tablet/smartphone/whatever. It may well only be for game chat, but it still strikes me as a little bit of an afterthought.

The PS4 has a headset - looks like a mobile phone headset with one less headphone. Xbox One has one too as an optional extra, and it'll probably be packed in down the line (so they can squeeze early adopters first).

It seems like they had plans for integration between it and the controller (which the demo of the EyeToy-esque robots minigame thing shows off) that removing it being a pack-in kinda wrecked. Still, it knocked a fair chunk of change off the launch boxes, and if it sells well they can pack-in later, like MS did to Kinect.

And yeah, I would really like another PoP, a proper one, not some iOS/Android/Ouya re-release of the original. It's a bit in limbo, though, as the last reboot bombed (and rightly bloody so, as it was not very PoP, but was very irritating).

I think they removed the Eye to make the price point much lower than Xbox One. But that's just going to lead to fragmentation and a lack of software using the camera. It was an odd move given the DS4 was clearly designed to work with the camera.

For all the faults of Kinect, at least on Xbox One developers will know that every console owner has the device. Perhaps we'll finally see a genuine killer app for Kinect. Not holding my breath though.

That said, the head tracking in Forza 4 is very good though as is the ability to quickly select menus.

mcmonkeyplc wrote:
Also why is every article on the front page about the ONE infested with Sony fanboy comments?

Every page is infested by fanboys of one type or the other.

I got a healthy -30 something for saying 'Im sad that Bayonetta is a Wii U exclusive'

Much like how sometimes people who give up smoking become the loudest detractors of it, I think a lot of previously 360 gamers, perhaps disappointed with recent support and news about the Xbox One, are going through the same process of shouting about why they want a PS4.