Chris, I also like to add. It is this energy, or chi, that you
cultivate and not an emotion of sadness or joy. It is important that
you are aware of the difference. JM

Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:

Chris,

Excellent. Yes, energy occurs only when we were most clam and relax and
least expected. That energy is yours and not from outside? Not an
illusion? If so, then please tell me how many chakra that listed here
you can sense any kind of vibration or heat?

Whether you sense anything or not. Do continue to cultivate and guide
it as per these descriptions. Each Chakra is an energy point where the
acupuncturist put a needle in to heal. You easily verify these
positions through wikipedia or google. By focusing on them, you will
gradually find heat or vibration. Then it is like acupuncture yourself
without a needle. Usually in three month, you shall find your health
improves. Keep me posted.

This is the path to the positive application of our true gift.
Congratulations.

JM

cid830 wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I experienced in deep practice of Zen a tremendous amount of ENERGY
> while meditating. Usually just when I would reach a completely
> relaxed state I would experience the most beautiful rush of energy,
> but through my training I would just ignore this and continue my
> concentration.
>
> Through my very limited knowledge of Chan, it seems to me that JM
> speaks of this experience of ENERGY the tangible experience of Chi.
> It seems to me the He can manipulate this energy, or karma, or chi
> for positive values.
>
> So that seems to me at least part of it; hopefully JM can help me
out
> alittle. But that seems to also be a difference between Chan and
Zen.
> Zen just experience Just This, and Chan, cultivate the energies of
> Just This for a positive existence.
>
> Later,
> And I always reserve the right to completely be Wrong!
>
> Chris
>
>

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