I came up with this idea while thinking that StS would make a better WR than QB, and how to get McMaryion and him on the field using all of their skills. Turns out it’s an actual offense. Check out this link.

But how great would it be to have MM and StS both in the backfield at the same time? The permutations become vast.

For those who have been at practice — any indication GA is considering something like this? We know he mentioned both QBs would play, but did that sly fox mean at the same time? Now that would be something.

One thing that’s frustrating is that many OSU fans claimed they hated Oregon’s offense and didn’t want to copy the Ducks. Now everyone loves that GA runs a very similar offense. Running a system with two QBs who can read option would distinguish OSU from the Ducks, and almost every other team in America. I doubt it happens, but StS does make it possible and intriguing. Hopefully they at least install that formation with a few variations. At worst, it should be a trick play option. I think there is great possibility and the next logical step on offense now that the mobile QB is old hat.

One problem is both guys are right handed(mitchell too), so one of them would always be rolling to their weak side.

Yeah, in the article they made a big deal out of that, but I’m not sure it is. For one, it’s not that hard to roll to the weak side and throw, but also, couldn’t they motion the QB out wide into the flat, throw it to him behind the line, then have him roll to his strong side and throw? Seems there could be many variations on that idea. Or they could draft a lefty QB next cycle.

To the bigger point: is this the next trend in football? The current systems are quickly becoming old hat as everyone replicates them and not viewed as innovative anymore. Seems to me it’s the next logical progression.

This is really intriguing. Would be awesome if GA was thinking of doing this even though I doubt it. Would be awesome to see it work, too. If executed well it would be so much h more dangerous that the Oregon type spreads.

Wonder if it would attract QBs? For those who are stat driven and want to be “the man”, I wouldn’t think so since they’d basically be always splitting reps, but for the guys who want guaranteed playing time, you would think it would be attractive, since they’re more likely to see the field. You just wouldn’t be getting those top tier guys. The offense would be more about the system than the individual players.

Two QB really is intriguing, I’d love to see it, but how does it square with Andersen as a D minded coach and his statements w/respect to simplifying the playbook? I don’t think we’ll see it till the last conf game if then.

I see Andersen and his crew not as innovators, but as hard core, detail oriented motivators. BTW, on JoeBeav I heard the story of Baldwin and the two straight victories over Stanford by SJSU. Seems he walked his team through the Stanford campus to show them how pampered and spoiled their opponent was. Motivation.

A little recruiting news. Devron Davis (steven nelson’s) cousin has said he intends to commit to OSU. Hasnt officially been offered yet, but plans to visit soon, so the offer will likely occur then. Has a really impressive offer list.

It’s interesting that the position that has attracted the most talent so far for 2016 has been DB. Christian Wallace, Markell Simmons(Juco), Shurod Thompson, Jordan Parker and now Davis. All guys who are highly rated by the recruiting sites, and all have shown enough interest to put OSU in their top X list. Not enough room for all of them in one class, of course, but in the end we should end up with some talent at that position.

Coach Sitaki did mention the defensive backfield as being an area they’re really focusing on building depth in, so maybe that’s why there’s so much interest?

Here’s Davis’ offer list from Rivals. Pretty much the same as 247 with a few differences. Further confirmation that he’s a sought after talent.

Angie Machado has said before that she is skeptical that all of these offers are legit, so maybe she knows something the sites don’t? Not sure… But Davis claims to have letters to document/confirm every last one of them.

One of my biggest concerns for next season is NT. With Peko and Grimble leaving that will be a big void. I hope guys like; Kalani V., Noke Tago, Houston Sumner and the rest get some reps this season. I’m sure Noke will. I think he would be a really solid player coming in if it weren’t for that damn USC game! If we bring in a good sized JUCO, decent athlete to add to the mix for next season at NT, we’ll be looking good. There aren’t that many seniors on this team and the one’s that are have plenty of younger guys who will get some experience and will be ready to step up next season. Future is bright.

What’s the deal with this dude? Isn’t he the one Mama said she thought he was falsely reporting the offers, and she wouldn’t report anything on him until corroborated? Everything with his recruitment just seems like it’s been off yeah?

Strange situation that this highly recruited athlete with offers from everybody (Alabama, Auburn, LSU, FSU, A&M, Holes) letting them all hang in the breeze with hopes the his dream school OSU will offer. I mean, I feel the same way and great if true. But strange…

I’m not sure how he could be making everything up. Follow his twitter feed. He has pictures of letters/offers from all sorts of schools. I can’t imagine that’s all false/fake. Plus, just today he tweeted out a pic of an official “invitation” from Oregon State to come visit over the Weber State weekend, so obviously they’re interested.

You’d think if even some of those offers from the big time schools like Oregon/Alabama/FSU/Ohio St/etc were fake, you’d see it debunked somewhere, wouldn’t you?

On the other hand, Machado usually has her reasons when she’s skeptical of something, so it’s hard to discount that part of the story too.

Either way, the guy says he wants to be a Beav, and the Beavs are interested, otherwise they wouldn’t invite him on an official visit. If anything changes, then it changes, but that’s the current status of things.

Last night’s Hurry Up featured a segment on Devron Davis, a JUCO defensive back from California who, two nights ago, claimed a Buckeye offer in a now deleted tweet.

Again, people read this column and if something isn’t “right” they’re not shy about letting me know if something stinks, and that was the case with Davis. There was no offer, no contact between he and the Buckeyes and Ohio State is not chasing any JUCO defensive backs at this point.

Why does this happen? There’s a lot of guys out there that create offers out of thin air, thinking that if no one fact checks they’ll gain something by showing an offer from a place like Ohio State. Self-promotion on Twitter, where so many new-age “media” people hang out and propagate whatever myth you pass off as fact, is part of the game and requires due diligence on our part before it’s shared. Unfortuantely, in the case of Davis, he reported his offer after midnight and felt it would slip through the cracks, but the truth is always just around the corner.

Goes to show, not everything you read on the twitter feed, or on the recruiting sites is going to be 100% accurate at the end of the recruiting cycle. Rivals still shows an Ohio State offer for Davis, but 247/Scout/ESPN do not.

Hey, nothing like being proactive in your recruitment. He sees the game, few recruiters do research and so one offer shouldve begat another. Except why start at the top with current national champ Ohio State?? I mean come on, start fake offers with the D2s or FCS and work your way up.

Let’s end this OT here. The man obviously ate one or two… or five napkins too many. Here’s his apology:

“It was borderline laughable. I think anybody who knows me and has been around me – whether it’s family, friends, coaches, players – they know what I’m about, who I am as a person. Quite honestly, it was a ridiculous claim. I really didn’t give it much credence.”

I suspect Duck troll trying to spam the thread in order to go back to his Duck site and link it and “laugh at Bevis” in a “see how they are so immature” planting of seeds which have nothing to do with anything.

Or it’s just a known IP address trying an end run… likely with the same motives as always.

Nah Sark was drunk off his rocker at a SC booster dinner or something like that and said everybody sucks…including opponents he hasn’t beaten like Arizona State. As long as he somewhat underachieves I’m good with him as the Condoms coach.

Absolutely not. My opinion is that this staff is just extending the competition into the first couple games. I personally think that the staff will name one guy after the Michigan game. That will be good grounds for judging who can be the leader of this offense. That may very well be MM because of poise and maturity but we will see? But I think ideally that Baldwin and GA want to have a single guy as the starter. When you platoon or switch QBs (even for series’), it does take the rhythm and continuity out of the offense. Plus the offense has to get use to a different cadence style, different abilities and even try to rally behind two different leaders. I think we also have a special situation where both guys are young and we only have 3 QBs, so at least two of them (probably all 3) need to be ready to go when running this offense.

As said above, I don’t see this staff as innovative enough to go to the two QB system under discussion. I agree with what you’ve said, 92, and only see Andersen et al going two QB as a “trick play” type thing. Like you, I trust this staff and it makes sense to see freshman QB’s under fire before making any announcement; and I feel all 3 need to be ready and expect to see all 3 play sometime during the season.

But, looking at the big picture, I won’t be surprised to see a top 50(?) team giving this system a shot in the next few years. Keep in mind, I thought the no punt system would be seen, at least occasionally, by now.

Absolutely YES!!! I am a big fan of this concept. Speed and stretch the field. I see the space the dual qb provides as an extra half an o-lineman. Plus the mobile qb concept, which as previously discussed makes for an essential 12 vs 11 scenario. Dual mobile qb could make it essentially 12.5 vs 11.

It’s fascinating. I think whichever Power 5 school adopts it first will be looked at as the innovator, just like Chip Kelly was, even though smaller schools were using that offense.

I also think the punt is under attack, oldbeav. Nobody has adopted a no punt offense yet, but the pace of the game makes that inevitable. Take, for example, Chip Kelly abandoning the extra point sometimes to go for two. I don’t think any team will abandon the punt entirely, but in the future I think we’ll see much less punting…probably only when pinned back or for strategic reasons late in games. Defense will become even more difficult to play.

I love creativity and would love to see it adopted somewhere. I actually liked the ducks offense back when Dennis Dixon was having his best year. Hated the ducks but watching him run that show was entertaining because there wasnt much like it at that level, at the time.

Great topic! I think there is definitly a possibility of it being the future. Only thing that could damper that would be amount of time devoted. It seems pretty difficult to get 1 good qb, and to have 2 that could also run routes might be tough based on the college rules/hours.

There was a segment on Real Sports with Bryant Gumble about a high school coach that never punts and always does onside kicks. The math is in his favor for sure.

That same guy is doing something new this year where he will be implementing some concepts from Rugby with laterals. One lateral per passing play is doable, but if you start looking to lateral multiple times in the same play you’re going to fumble more often that you’d like to.

Apparently an NFL coach reached out to this HS coach about his no punting/kicking philosophy but the NFL coach asked him not to talk about it. Guessing it was Chip.

I don’t think the ULM 2QB style system is the future of college football, but it doesn’t mean a 2QB system can’t work. Look what Florida did during the 2006-07 season. They started a pocket passer (Chris Leak) and a run first QB in situational/ goal line packages (Tim Tebow). In my oppion, this is the style of 2QB system we should run.

Tear shed. The first 4* decommit was the one of their largest proponents before he decommitted a couple of weeks ago. Sounds as if he’s now working to decommit others,including this guy. UO was at #19 in terms of recruiting classes…will likely drop from there with the latest defection.

With 2 Qbs on field, and the ability to play straight up or involve both Qbs in each play would immediately puts defense on its heels. With both being mobile there are multiple multiple run options. Plus pocket passing, plus two out of pocket passing, plus straight option x 2. I don’t see this as a hailmary flea flicker type offense, rather 7 yards per play, every single play. Too much space to cover, too much time variable. Defenses would fall apart mentally as plays break down. Quick reads could be lightening fast. Defenses would exhaust. A new game could evolve. New rules would be invented.

Also on the punts, they statistically make very little sense in traditional football logic. —As long as the play called is capable of reaching the first down (unlike many Riley era poorly called plays).

I think the biggest issue with a 2QB offense would be the time it would take for the play to initially develop. The advantage behind running the read option from the shotgun is that the QB and RB are in a position to move toward the line of scrimmage as soon as the ball hits the QB’s hands. Utilizing 2 QB’s unpredictably would require an exchange immediately after the snap.

You can’t legally snap the ball to anyone other than the guy behind center, so either the D will always know who’s getting the ball first, or you’d have to spend precious time getting the ball to the other guy.

I thought so too. One of those guys who probably doesn’t get noticed much because he lives pretty far from any major towns (ok, Medford isn’t tiny, but it’s pretty far from any other major city)

His only offer is from Western Oregon so far. Don’t see the Beavs offering him, but could see a guy like this coming in as a walk-on and then earning a spot. I like how he makes the throws look effortless and has a quick release. And he doesn’t try to do too much with his legs, but just enough to make the defense respect his running ability.

I watched some of the Mason Moran video from his last game and maybe it’s just me, but I saw an opponent that was clueless and completely out matched. It was just like watching a Banker coached defense against the spread.

“Hopefully they at least install that formation with a few variations. At worst, it should be a trick play option.”

Agreed that it would be worth installing as a trick play option, at the very least. The ULM video shows how a defense would quickly become confused if unprepared. And if an opponent chooses to waste precious game week time preparing for this trick play option, that’s also beneficial for OSU.

So you run it once each game, early, to see how the opponent defends your 2 QB formation. If they don’t defend it well, you keep running it. Why not?

A bunch of guys said or did a bunch of dumb stuff. Now they apologize or outright make up crap excuses that wouldn’t fly in the real world… or even TV shows. And the world just takes a pass on them?

Maybe their bosses are just taking good measure and writing up the paperwork so as to be legally correct as well as morally right? I guess I’ll wait and see. But it doesn’t sound like the right thing will be done with all the noise being made by talking heads.

There was a headline yesterday about some pro athlete who said he still has an imaginary friend. Many people in positions of authority use deities as tools of power to control or communicate with the masses… like every tv preacher out there. But I guess some really need the coping mechanism.

Either way, I’ll take it. It’s not like he isn’t speaking the language of the most powerful majority in the US by far and doesn’t get empathy from this revelation. But I do find it interesting that he doesn’t weild it as a weapon. That’s different.