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What's up, guys?
As you probably know, my new interests are privacy and security. And today I have a bad new for you...
According to Robert Heaton's note, popular extension Stylish steals all your internet history:
I have a lot of questions:
Is Stylish for Maxthon official?
Here're not so many official extensions and ports. I know olny three: LastPass, VKOpt and AdBlock Plus. Other extensions in most cases are unofficial ports from funboys. Is Stylish too?
Add-on was uploaded by one of users from China - 寂寞的原子 (Lonely Atom). He made many cool exnetsions for Maxthon. Who is he? Can we talk to him?
Is spying update relevant for Maxthon?
Last update of mxaddon was in January 2018. Does this mean that users of Stylish for Maxthon take risks too?
Because if Lonley Atom used old version of Stylish, it may be still safe. Not a fact, but we have a chance.
Are Chrome and Firefox issues relevant for Maxthon?
Maxthon is closed browser. That's why many third-party developers don't want to work with Maxthon. Maybe changes happened on Chrome could not be repeated on Maxthon.
Now we need someone from MX Team to check it.
P. S.
I've seen mention of Stylish changes thrice, so it's probably true...
I'm not sure that it's relevant for Maxthon too. So don't panic!
Maybe it's false alarm... But I think you should know this...

Sum up:
RoboForm was developed by SiberSystem
RoboForm.mxaddon was upload to Extension Center by Roman Gravit
Roman Gravit used email @siber.com, so he probably worked there (and his Facebook profile confirm this)
It means that RoboForm for Maxthon is probably official add-on
They both responded to messages: RoboForm - via Twitter, Roman - via Facebook.
So they know about situation and probably they will connect with Maxthon Team.
But maybe I could give them links to someone from Maxthon Team on Facebook or Twitter (Lizzie or Jeff)?
P.S.
By the way, the website works, but you shoud use siber.com/index instead of siber.com

This website is dead already...
But I think I found his profile. Maybe this is other man with the same name, but I'll try to talk with him.
I wrote about this on Twitter, RoboForm replied. Can I give them link to someone from MX Team?
Or you can try to do the same and write to RoboForm on Twitter or Facebook.

Hi. guys! I had to write about this many week ago, but...
What's wrong with Extensions Center? Does it work?
I tried to write reply, but I can not add new comment. Just white screen and nothing more. I hoped it's temporary, but it still does not work for me.
Now I hope MX Team just preparing big update for Extensions Center and they have no reason to fix old bugs.
Because we really need new Extensions Center: with notification and developer's pages.
Now feedback is broken...

I'll just put it in here...
This is the reason why now I'm not worried about Maxthon changes. They changed target audience. Old users don't like it, but it's OK. And maybe this is really right step for company (not for us, but globally this's not so important).
Если нужен перевод на русский, найти его можно здесь.
P.S.
1. BTW, comments on Extensions Center don't work. I can't reply and can't write rewiew.
2. If YouTube Center works on other browsers, the script may work on Maxthon too. Try to contact with developer or just use ViolentMonkey.

What about http://extension.maxthon.com/server/go.php?guid=GUID links?
Maxthon used this as permanent links to add-on pages: if add-on is available on Extensions Center, this page will be opened.
This is "Details" in old versions of MX (MX3, MX4 and MX4.9), these links worked in any browsers. But today it does not work.
Is this temporary troubles?
Because I used thes links as feedback in my extensions and not it does not work for me.
Should I remove Rate and Rewiew from my add-ons?
As you need examples:
Google Keep
Pocket
AccuWeather

I think I fixed it. I'm not sure, but maybe...
I'll make update and maube in will help.
I just add excludes to def,json:
"exclude": [
"*.gooogle.com",
"google.com",
"*mail.google.com",
"mail.google.com"]
UPD:
Bad news. I fixed GMail issue only, but not other Google services...

Hi, guys!
I made SaveTube for MX, but honestly I don't know how it works. I just took the script and write that it have to be runned when page is loaded. There are list with websites where script have to be runned, but there is not any *.google.com sites. So I have no idea why it happens. But I test original script with ViolentMonkey and had the same result: page realods when I try to open new folder, but not "again and agian" as someone wrote, only once.
Sebaro know about issue. He showed me the post with issue description. But he use Linux and can not test MX extension.
So we know that this is problem of interaction between the script and browser. But we don't know the reason.
In def.json I used these includes:
"actions": [{
"type": "script",
"entryPoints": ["doc_end"],
"include": [
"*.youtube.com",
"youtube.com",
"*.dailymotion.com",
"dailymotion.com",
"*.vimeo.com",
"vimeo.com",
"*.metacafe.com",
"metacafe.com",
"*.break.com",
"break.com",
"*.funnyordie.com",
"funnyordie.com",
"*.veoh.com",
"veoh.com",
"*.viki.com",
"viki.com",
"*.imdb.com",
"imdb.com",],
"js": ["script.js"],
}]
In original SaveTube script:
// @include http://youtube.com*
// @include http://www.youtube.com*
// @include https://youtube.com*
// @include https://www.youtube.com*
// @include http://gaming.youtube.com*
// @include https://gaming.youtube.com*
// @include http://m.youtube.com*
// @include https://m.youtube.com*
// @include http://dailymotion.com*
// @include http://www.dailymotion.com*
// @include https://dailymotion.com*
// @include https://www.dailymotion.com*
// @include http://vimeo.com*
// @include http://www.vimeo.com*
// @include https://vimeo.com*
// @include https://www.vimeo.com*
// @include http://metacafe.com*
// @include http://www.metacafe.com*
// @include https://metacafe.com*
// @include https://www.metacafe.com*
// @include http://break.com*
// @include http://www.break.com*
// @include https://break.com*
// @include https://www.break.com*
// @include http://funnyordie.com*
// @include http://www.funnyordie.com*
// @include https://funnyordie.com*
// @include https://www.funnyordie.com*
// @include http://veoh.com*
// @include http://www.veoh.com*
// @include https://veoh.com*
// @include https://www.veoh.com*
// @include http://viki.com*
// @include http://www.viki.com*
// @include https://viki.com*
// @include https://www.viki.com*
// @include http://imdb.com*
// @include http://www.imdb.com*
// @include https://imdb.com*
// @include https://www.imdb.com*
As I undestand, it mead that script or addon works on these websites only. There are not any *.google.com @Chantao was the first who wrote about this, and he did it July, 29. But I last SaveTube.mxaddon update was July, 2.
Does it mean that all worked OK a few weeks? Maybe this is really problems of browser update?
And I am still not sure that I understood you correctly. I made too many extensions to use all of these and I don't use MX as default anymore. So I am not sure that I understand what problem have other user. Maybe someone can make video with issue? I can send it to Sebaro.
And what about Maxthon Team and real developers?
Today we really need help. Because I'm not developer, I'm just user. I don't know how it works.
I even have no idea how these script and extension can broke other website.
Other post with this issue:
forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/topic/22400-v-5104000-gmail-login-again-and-again/#comment-118830
forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/topic/22468-5104000-gmail-refreshes-onces-after-every-action/#comment-119038/
UPD:
I added some excludes to def.json:
"exclude": [
"*.gooogle.com",
"google.com",
"*.google.*",
"google.*",
"*mail.google.com",
"mail.google.com"]
And now GMail issue is solved.
But I noticed the same reloading on YouTube and Google Maps.
I can not fix it for YouTube (because SaveTube have to works on Youtube) and Google Maps (because Google use different domains for different countries)
The simplest solution is just add to excludes all websites where you have this trouble.
So where?
P.S.
I still don't know how it works and I need advice from developers.

Today I would like to talk about serious issue...
So this post is addressed to the Maxthon Team and real true gangsta MLG add-on developers, who really understand how this magic work.
In the times of MX3 we had AdHunter. It was a simple, but effective advertising filter. It had two big problems only:
it does not have regional lists
you could not block ads manually (untill latest versions)
So some user (I know nick only and nothing more) make NoAds. It was a port from popular add-on for old Opera. There was regional lists and manual blocking, but... Because of some bug in Chromium code it did not work if you tried to use full lists. So... There were times when NoAds worked not so well and could even "break" browser: if you tried to use full lists you see empty white pages only and only deleting of folder with extension data solved the probmel. MX users don't like to read and so many people asked about this, that developer removed NoAds from Extensions Center. After a few months or years someone upload NoAds in Extensions Center again. I'm not sure that it was real developer, but today NoAds is available again.
We saw that MX Team make some changes in MX5 to achieve better compatibility with some popular extensions. And I think that NoAds can really be usefull extension for many users, but I'm not sure that it works OK in MX5. I'm not sure that this is MX problem, maybe only Google can do something with this. But someone should look on this extension. Because there is manual blocking, but it's not exist in ABP.
Alternative is always good!

A few days ago I installed MX5 to check how my extensions wokr there (some users wrote that they have problems).
And I want to ask: What icon size is used in MX5 toolbar?
Old versions of Maxthon used:
icon_16.png for toolbar
icon_32.png for sidebar and extensions page
icon_48.png for Extensions Center
I used 16x16 image for toolbar, but in MX5 it looks... a... as s it's blurry, stretched... I think the real size is about 24x24.
And what about old versions? If I use bigger size, how will it look in MX4 for example?
What do you think?
Did you see something about this in new SDK? Is here new SDK?
Or did you liik inside build-in extensions?
UPD:
OK. Let's talk about this minor change...
This is icon_16 = 16p. In MX5 it looks awful!
So I could change icon_16 size from 16p to 20p, And it will look OK:
But this is MX5. How many users already moved to MX5? Many old users will use MX4.9 until the end of time!
Look how icon_16 = 20p will look in old MX4:
Not so bad? But look how it have to look (with icon_16 = 16p):
I really hate MX at such moments!
You took something that worked and broke it! And we can not fix it, because if we make well-defined icons for MX5, it will be blurred for MX4. But well-defined icons for MX4 anyway will be blurred in MX5. You did it! With no reason! Just because you made bigger UI in MX5. Great! Did we really need it?!
What we have to do? Just wait when you do something? Maybe you can solve the issue as you did when add toolbar in MX4 for example. Or you never will do something and we have to change icon_16 size to 20p? Do you remember how many addons are these? I will not do it! I spent two days on simple expansion and minor updates! Because of toolbar icons only! Why? For what?

And we will have to change icons sizes in every extension what was be uploaded in Extensions Center from 2010. Great!
Why do you break something that worked fine everytime when you release new browser? You broke toolbar icons (and all extensions with toolbar menu), skins and transparent sidebar icons (it works with some skins) when released MX4 in 2012. Some of these was not have not been returned until now! It mean that MX3 was better! And now you break toolbar icons, sidebar favorites, transparent sidebar icons (again), etc. Cool!
You browser becames better and better... But MX3 had more!
Read this. Take every MX stuff who don't know anything about mxaddons, choose mobile version of any popular Chinese website and make simple addon for sidebar panel.

The third icon - Ecosia - has icon 20x20
Really? Don't you blur of the second icon? Don't you really understand why? Just use screenshot tool, press Ctrl+F1 and make accurate screenshot and you will see that this is about 20x20. ABP icon is 19x19 as I remember. So you take 16x16 icons and stretched it to 20x20. This is 25%!
MX use 48x48 for Extensions Center, 32x32 for sidebar and extensions settings page and 16x16 for toolbar. If MX does not find the icon, other size will be used. But it will look awful. It's the first. The second: if you use toolbar menu, you can not write "icon": "toolbar.png" for toolbar icon, MX still will use icon_16 or other icon_XX.
You need old extensions with icon_16 = 16p. Just look on icons in MX4 and MX5. 4 points is very many if we talk about 16 points. This is 25%!
Use 16x16 for extensions and 20x20 for your tools if you want. Now you kill all old extensions!
Does not matter why you did it. Does not metter what will you do to solve the issue.
Old extensions look disgusting for all MX5 users now. All new extensions will look disgusting for all MX4 and MX3 users if we will just change icons size to 20x20.
You don't have third-part developers. You have 3K extensions after so many years. And now you break. You could do it... if you warned about it for several months and if you would explain the reasons!

This is 177 addons. Nope.
And if they will make "use .svg" an "official guide", will sound stupid: Exnetsions Center works OK with .png only and show gray gear (as with no icons) for other files. It have to work with one type of files.
MX5 was released many months ago and no one warned about it!
I'm almost sure that MX can take all skins and all extensions developer and сollect them all in one room. And all MX problems because they don't think how other devs have to work with their browser. They never will have ocean of developers and when they will make Skins Center, there will be about 5-10 men who can really do something cool, other will upload standart skins with new background. This is Maxthon in its best!