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Isn't it fantastic that in this Great Country we live in you can practice your language and culture anytime you want?

on June 1,2013 | 07:32PM

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holokanakawrote:

we always have and still do under the Kingdom. by the way joker when did the Blacks get the right to vote in that great country?

on June 1,2013 | 09:41PM

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DiverDavewrote:

Moot subject. Today everyone votes, even women that were never allowed to vote in the Kingdom.

on July 2,2013 | 09:03PM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

Most of the indigenous Hawaiians were not allowed to vote yet white foreigners WERE allowed to vote. So your point is moot AND hypocritical. That is especially ridiculous considering you support that kind of voter disenfranchisement.

on July 7,2013 | 04:37PM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

DiverDave = trying to pick a fight..... again. fail. Yawn.

on June 2,2013 | 06:04AM

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holokanakawrote:

truth and facts joker just truth and facts.

on June 2,2013 | 07:21AM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

The need to protect indigenous languages is Pacific-wide---> talamua.com/head-of-state-english-threatens-to-usurp-samoan/

on June 2,2013 | 08:38PM

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Ken_Conklinwrote:

Shouldn't each person be free to choose what language to speak? If people are voluntarily setting aside Samoan language because they prefer English, who the heck are you to tell them to go back to Samoan! The idea of "protecting" a local language by keeping out a more universal one seems like protecting mom-and-pop stores by prohibiting Sears, Kmart, Walmart etc.; or "protecting" grass shacks by prohibiting houses built from wood or bricks.

on June 2,2013 | 08:59PM

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holokanakawrote:

shouldn't each person chose what nation to belong to? Hawaiians made their choice but of course we all know what happened then don't we konki?

on June 2,2013 | 09:18PM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

That's right, holokanaka. Along with the article's main idea to create a Samoan language commission (like Académie Française), preservation of a language is not banning another, which of course is a crime against humanity like the theft of a nation. That's why it was such a crime against humanity to deny people the freedom of choice to speak Hawaiian at schools. Children were punished for their choice to speak Hawaiian because it was banned by racists. This still goes on today where Spanish speakers are told every day to Speak English! and in Wisconsin, for example, where the Menominee girl was punished for speaking her native language in school just last year.

on June 3,2013 | 03:21AM

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Ken_Conklinwrote:

T_K wrote "That's why it was such a crime against humanity to deny people the freedom of choice to speak Hawaiian at schools. Children were punished for their choice to speak Hawaiian. Children were punished for their choice to speak Hawaiian because it was banned by racists." Not a crime at all, and not racist either. Every school decides what language must be spoken in its classes, and all children regardless of race are required to obey the rules. White plantation children from Portugal were forbidden to speak Portuguese in school because the rule said they must speak English. Same for Japanese and Chinese plantation kids. All ethnicities were free to set up their own after school and Saturday academies to perpetuate their own languages and cultures; Japanese earning low wages chose to do that, but Hawaiians who by law earned higher wages chose not to do that.

Do you suppose that if my little girl went to Anuenue Hawaiian language immersion school today and tried to speak her native language (English) in her classes there, she would be allowed to do so? According to T_K analysis it would be a violation of her human rights, and racist, when her teachers and school officials won't let her speak English and punish her for her persistent disobedience.

on June 3,2013 | 09:31AM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

It's like shooting fish in a barrel. How incredulously laughable that Kenny sidesteps the blatant denial of freedom of speech by saying that people in the Republic of Hawaii oligarchy could speak languages elsewhere, just not in required government schools that children were legally required to attend. KENNY, voluntary schools are not the same as REQUIRED government schools that children were forced to attend and be beaten for speaking their ancestral language! HEADSLAP! To further his faulty sense of logic, which lacks both sense and logic, he implies that those voluntary language schools were a good thing because they allowed the education in languages other than English and AT THE SAME TIME, he tries to portray a voluntary language school for HAWAIIAN language as bad because it does the exact same thing! Really??? I mean, really! Only YOU, Kenny, would be ignorant enough to send your kid to a language school and tell him not to learn that language that forms the very basis of instruction and curriculum. THAT is the definition of a lack of both sense AND logic. Freedom of choice allows freedom of speech. WhiteIsRight KennyKKonklin knows nothing of history and he knows nothing of civics.

on June 3,2013 | 10:48AM

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Ken_Conklinwrote:

T_K says "he tries to portray a voluntary language school for HAWAIIAN language as bad" Wow! Either stupid or a contortionist distortionist. HEADSLAP! I'm saying the Hawaiian language school Anuenue is doing the right thing when it refuses to allow my daughter to speak her native language (English) in that school. I'm saying it's a good thing for a school to have a language of instruction that all children are required to use while in that school. I guess you're too eager to be nasty for you to be able to recognize what I was saying.

on June 3,2013 | 03:32PM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

No, you know when you are caught in your own idiocy that you try in vain to backtrack even though your words that are still above betray you. No one would punish a child for speaking English there because they are not racists like you and your ilk. They encourage the use of Hawaiian not beat the children for speaking English. You have a one track racist mind for even assuming punishment would occur. Again, your kid (Wait. You have kids? Scary thought of the day....) would never make it into Anuenue because the kid would have to speak some Hawaiian already and it would be understood that Hawaiian is the medium of instruction. Thus your brat would either be a willing participant in the school's language or not be enrolled in the first place. derrr

on June 3,2013 | 05:00PM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

Everyone knows that Hawaiian language newspapers, for example, were in existence until the mid 1900's because those newspapers are source documents for historians. That is no secret. So, when the fact is stated that Hawaiian was banned in the Hawaiian islands, the vast majority have the common sense to figure out that it was the school administrations, NOT lawmakers, who banned it because Hawaiian speakers were punished AT GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS. headslap! That is why Haunani-Kay Trask called you a twít all those years ago.

on June 3,2013 | 10:57AM

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Ken_Conklinwrote:

There goes Holokukae twisting things again. If there is a nation someone wishes to choose, he should certainly be free to go there provided that that nation will allow him to come in. But if he wants to stay where he is and convert the government into a different one, then of course he can do that either by electing a new government or by staging a revolution to change the government. Hawaii had a revolution back in 1893, when some of the local citizens and local residents rose up against the monarchy and converted it into a republic (7 of the 13 members of the revolution leadership "Committee of Safety" were native-born or naturalized subjects of the Kingdom, and the others were long-term residents who owned homes and businesses in Hawaii). It was still the same independent nation of Hawaii, but with a new government. If some of the people didn't like the new government, they could try to change it or they could go to a different nation to ask for admission. A bunch of ethnic Hawaiians tried to do a counterrevolution in 1895, but they failed. we all have the same decision to make: (1) stay in the nation where we are and if we don't like the government we try to change it by election or revolution; or (2) go somewhere else. We all have that choice.

on June 3,2013 | 09:18AM

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Terii_Keliiwrote:

So you admit that over half of the Committee of Thirteen were of foreign origin who should have told themselves that if they hated Hawaii so much, they should have just gone back to where they came from. Thanks for clarifying that, Kenny.

on June 3,2013 | 11:00AM

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holokanakawrote:

konki konki konki here you go again with the same old rubbish-the republic was the sovereign of these Islands, etc. you know for a fact that it was not a "revolution" but in fact a "conspiracy" by ha*le in these Islands and a representative of america -john stevens. I am sure you are very familiar with the true "legal" history of these Islands-Nation Within, Aloha Betrayed, and every step and utterance of Keanu Sai. I especially like the way you phrase ("committee of safety" "were native born or naturalized subjects of the Kingdom") did any of them have Hawaiian blood or were they all ha*le? did you purposely not mention non had Hawaiian blood. as I have said above the Hawaiians made their choice of which Nation they wanted to belong to but their choice was overpowered by by the so called "everyone is created equal hypocracy" of america and their guns. konki, you are not fooling anyone.