Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

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Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

what was she then?

Point proven. Thank you.

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Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

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If you will, you can become all flame.Extra caritatem nulla salus.In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". सर्वभूतहितἌνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas GandhiY dduw bo'r diolch.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

That is what I am saying. People who go to hell don't go because of their religion. They only go because of their wickedness.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?

Who are the Sabians?

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I would suggest most persons in general avoid any question beginning with why.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Who are the Sabians?

Followers of that coach from Alabama?

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If you will, you can become all flame.Extra caritatem nulla salus.In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". सर्वभूतहितἌνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas GandhiY dduw bo'r diolch.

Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?

Quran 5:72

They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

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Who are the Sabians?

Followers of John the Baptist, living in southern Mesopotamia.

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If you will, you can become all flame.Extra caritatem nulla salus.In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". सर्वभूतहितἌνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas GandhiY dduw bo'r diolch.

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?

"Many verses counsel patience in the face of the mockery of the unbelievers, while other verses incite to warfare against the unbelievers. The former are linked to the [chronologically anterior] Meccan phase of the mission when the Muslims were too few and weak to do other than endure insult; the latter are linked to Medina where the Prophet had acquired the numbers and the strength to hit back at his enemies. The discrepancy between the two sets of verses indicates that different situations call for different regulations."