The only thing I can see working is Lowry for Felton and Shumpert. It would also work with Hardaway Jr. in the package but that would be a long shot. Hopefully we can squeeze out a 1st round pick if they can't include Hardaway since we gave one up to acquire him in the first place.

The New York Knicks are pursuing Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry with a package of Raymond Felton, Metta World Peace and a 2018 first-round draft pick, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

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Within the Knicks, there's hesitance on including the draft pick, but there's no chance a deal for Lowry could get done without it, sources said. Nevertheless, there's still doubt on how long New York will keep a pick on the table, sources said.

Looks like a 2018 draft pick is coming our way. Masai might rob the Knicks again. First he gets them to take Bargs and now this.

I'd totally do that.

The 1st round pick makes up for having to take Felton's useless ass and then some. Felton would stick around as a shitty backup PG. Maybe bought out sometime next year. Metta would probably get bought out right away.

This just makes you realize how shitty of a situation Colangelo put the Raptors in. The Raptors would be trading Gay and Lowry not too long after they got them and getting worse returns on both.

I don't mind trading Lowry and I don't mind getting 1st rounders, but damn 2018 is four years down the road, time value of money man. Lowry is more than solid, on a reasonable contract, he should be able to get us a better deal on the market, if not a 2014 pick at least 2015.

I agree with bk. It's 2013.14 right now, and that first is 4 seasons away. Chances are by then we would've already gotten rid of that pick for some talent. And even if we didn't, who knows what the state of the team will be in 2018/19

Id like to see them unload Lowry as well, but as BK said we need to see a draft pick come back this year or next ...even if its a lower first. I don't think the knicks are the right trading partner in this case, unless they can somehow produce a first by trading one of their players and making it a three team deal.

I don't mind trading Lowry and I don't mind getting 1st rounders, but damn 2018 is four years down the road, time value of money man. Lowry is more than solid, on a reasonable contract, he should be able to get us a better deal on the market, if not a 2014 pick at least 2015.

They don't have a 2014 pick, and since they traded away their 2014 pick they aren't allowed to trade their 2015 pick. We own their 2016 pick, so they can't trade their 2017 pick to us. The nearest tradable pick is their 2018 pick.

While it looks like the deal has been vetoed (temporarily at least) I have to echo one of Grange's tweets where he pointed out that while 2018 is far down the road, having a constant stream of multiple first-round picks is what pushes teams over the top in terms of maintaining competetiveness.

In 4 years hopefully we're back on the uptick in terms of attempting to compete and that extra infusion of cheap talent could be key. Especially given how likely it is that the Knicks will still be awful.

Here's hoping the trade goes through, or atleast something like it with the Nets or Lakers.