I need you to define a "serious matter". I could take 2 different interpretations for this:

1) Serious matter as in we create something, don't half-ass it, and stick with it.
2) Serious matter as we create something useful.

But assuming it's the first one. Yeah, that's my goal. I don't think we could start on it right away though. We need a bigger team, and we need to make sure everyone is caught up to speed on what they need to know. So it would take a while for us to get started.

as i said i know web design and vidual basic, so maybe we should add a poll or maybe a new thread to deside who in the project knows what language then purely on which language has the most programmers you should use that,

that way it shows no favouritism its jus common sense the more people that know 1 thing the more knoledge you will have regarding that subject or inthis case that language

Well going to the link I gave of MS compliers, it has C++, C#, J# and VB. I've done VB and C++. C# is similar enough to C++ where it would be a realitivly easy switch for me, and J# is virtually the same as java which I've worked with. Basically, give me a language, and I'll teach myself what I need.

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Wow, if it's HTML I have much more to learn. I don't know a single thing about it, let alone programming a game. I have a great grasp on C++ though. I could also try using the .NET framework.

Can this darkBASIC be implemented with C++?

HTML is extremely easy. It's just a formatting language that tells the web browser where to place things in the page. There really is no real 'programming' in terms of actually doing things. In order to do things, you need to incorporate Javascript or PHP.

ok guys it looks like vb is leading but thats not 100% decided its going to be our language yet.

but i think we are in a knolegable enough position to be able to start putting some ideas out there for things we'd like to make,

personally i really dont have a clue lol, but i think if we could get some ideas rolling like is it going to be web associated ? e.g a program that connects to the internet or uses a html page to run ? is it going to be purely run offline ?

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