It isn’t that difficult to understand the basic science behind global warming, nor to get a grasp of the various components of our global heat distribution engine, it only takes some honest curiosity and effort and time. {Incidentally, Uncertainty does not equal not knowing.}

Now you’ve tossed out this common meme and I’ve challenged you to explain why you feel confident making such a statement.
If you can’t do that, can you at least admit that you can’t?
And if you can admit that… would you be interested in learning why increasing Antarctic ice doesn’t counter anything about the Anthropogenic Global Warming consensus?

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sine dues - 22 November 2012 11:01 AM

it is a diversion if you ignore that the antarctic is accumulating ice

I wonder if you can explain the dynamics causing the accumulation of ice in parts of Antarctica?

I ask this because the next question is - Why do you think accumulating ice in parts of Antarctica undercuts the validity of the scientific consensus regarding global warming?
{...and you can’t answer that without some conception of the dynamics at work}

And your argument about CO2 vs. H20 vapor as green house gasses is fallacious. With the majority of our planet’s surface ocean, we always have a huge amount of water in the atmosphere. However, while there was an equilibrium amount of CO2 in the atmosphere for many centuries, when we began retrieving large amounts of carbon and carbon compounds from where they had been sequestered and burning them, we shifted the CO2 equalibrium severely.

By the way, I’m a chemist, and I didn’t flunk out part way through, so don’t throw that wimpy, “are you as scientist?” crap around. Yes, I am a scientist and have been a damned good chemist.

By the way, I’m a chemist, and I didn’t flunk out part way through, so don’t throw that wimpy, “are you as scientist?” crap around. Yes, I am a scientist and have been a damned good chemist.

Occam

Good point. Admitting flunking English and Calculus doesn’t do much for one’s credibility, especially on this forum. If SD wants to flaunt credentials I could mention that I just got accepted into Alpha Chi, the National College Honor Society, but I don’t want to brag.

Oops.

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By the way, I’m a chemist, and I didn’t flunk out part way through, so don’t throw that wimpy, “are you as scientist?” crap around. Yes, I am a scientist and have been a damned good chemist.

Occam

Good point. Admitting flunking English and Calculus doesn’t do much for one’s credibility, especially on this forum. If SD wants to flaunt credentials I could mention that I just got accepted into Alpha Chi, the National College Honor Society, but I don’t want to brag.

Oops.

I’m just a prole, but I have sense enough to listen to Climatologists, Chemists and Physicists when it comes to explaining these things, I believe in using my resources.

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Yeah, but your job gives you the opportunity and need to learn a great deal of biological science, even if there wasn’t as much formal exposure, Asanta. You certainly demonstrate a high degree of understanding of science and reason.

Unfortunately, some of it does by dissolving in rain, falling into the ocean and lowering the pH (making the ocean more acidic) which means algae can’t grow as well so they can’t contribute as much to generating oxygen. The small amount of CO2 was fine, but the large increase is damaging the environment of the seas.

Unfortunately, some of it does by dissolving in rain, falling into the ocean and lowering the pH (making the ocean more acidic) which means algae can’t grow as well so they can’t contribute as much to generating oxygen. The small amount of CO2 was fine, but the large increase is damaging the environment of the seas.

Occam

Does that actually qualify as CO2 precipitating out or is it getting simply caught in H2O precipitating out.

Is there a name for the difference?

psik

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Fiziks is Fundamental
Since 9/11 Physics has been History

I’ve made a pie chart and have tried dropping it on my head from various heights but I did not get crushed. I’ve posted a video of the experiments on youtube. This along with the fact that nobody has made a model replicating crushing by pie chart proves it is physically impossible.

I’ve made a pie chart and have tried dropping it on my head from various heights but I did not get crushed. I’ve posted a video of the experiments on youtube. This along with the fact that nobody has made a model replicating crushing by pie chart proves it is physically impossible.

Stephen

No, Stephen! Don’t go there!

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