Votes result in policies that lead to death. Don’t you admit that if Bush had not been elected there’d be a few thousand more Americans alive today because they wouldn’t have been killed in Iraq? Let alone the iRaqis unless Saddam started killing a bunch of them again.

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Fine, certain sexual practices are very risky and can lead to serious health consequences and even death as well as great financial costs. If you restrict those practices but allow for others, that doesn’t violate the “keep your laws out of my bedroom” right to privacy stuff?

You seem to have no issue violating people’s constitutional rights if you don’t approve of them. So how far does it extend?

PS: Low chance of what? Every single friend I have that has even hanged out in the U street area or who went to Adams Morgan from the metro has been mugged, usually at gunpoint. So don’t tell me the chances are low.

I’m not violating anyone’s constitutional rights and neither is DC, NYC, or Chicago, as I’ve proven.

And you’re last post is an outright lie. I’ve been to U St and Adams Morgan hundreds of times and NEVER had an issue and neither has any of my friends, 3 of which LIVE near U St. and go out there all the time.

And yes the chances are low as evidenced by the reduction in violent crime. But hey, why believe facts when propaganda is so much more appealing.

Did you hear about this story from this week? Fortunately she isn’t allowe dto have a gun to protect herself. Because there is nothing to fear in DC, right? It’s completely safe unlike gun toting virginia, eh?

Come on CO, answer a question. How about free speech? Did you know what the Chicago city council is doing?They are about to pass a resolution calling for all professional sports league commissioners to come out in favor of LGBT rights and are asking the commissioners to punish anyone who makes homophobic comments. So in short, a state actor is asking a private actor to punish people speaking constitutional protected speech. But I guess since there are other things they can speak about, it doesn’t violate their first amendment rights, right? It’s real world example. Does this disturb you?

2) I’ve been going out in Adams Morgan and U St every weekend for 20+years and never had any trouble and never felt my safety would be improved had I decided to carry a gun. On the contrary….I usually like to enjoy a few drinks and adding a gun to that equation would have been much more likely to have resulted in harm to me or my friends.

OK, OK… we’re on track now… stay with me and ignore novasteve for a moment… what would happen if a Citizen (who is not covered by LEOSA) were to bear arms in the District of Columbia?

1) not every state has open carry, including Texas.

Not every state is free. It’s what we’re talking about.

2) neither does Illinois

Lots of bad things are cultivated there.

4), not all states recognize each others open or carry permits either.

Not all states recognize each others marriage licenses- they are in violation of the full faith and credit clause.

5), no its not.

Wait… what?

Its so funny...in that link, this woman, a gun enthusiast, gave step-by-step instructions on how you can own a gun in DC.

Where are the instructions to obtain a DC CCW? And since my legal residence is VA, will they honor my CCW?

You guys are basically saying that you can't own a gun in DC...now you are trying to change your words to "bear".

I think you missed the entire point of this thread while bickering with novasteve- Kokesh is planning to bear arms within the limits of the Distict. It is unlawful to bear arms in DC. Will he be arrested??? Lanier says Yes…

Now, as Citizens of the United States of America, do we not have a right to keep and bear arms that is affirmed in the Second Amendment of the BOR?

I have not missed any point in this thread. You guys said at the beginning “You can’t own a gun in DC”. I proved that wrong time and again. Now you’re trying to change your words to CCW. Go back and re-read this entire thread.

CCW and owning a gun is completely different, don’t you see that? In some states, you have to get an extra permit for CCW and/or Open carry. In other words, simply owning a gun does not automatically mean CCW in some parts of the US, like VA, which is a “Shall-Issue” state, meaning you have to be granted a permit for CCW.

The 2nd amendment doesn’t explicitly say “carry your guns in the open” does it? If it did, or is interpreted that way in the future, then they can rule DC’s laws unconstitutional (as they did in 2008).