Just ordered the "PATA/IDE TO Serial ATA SATA Adapter For 2.5/3.5 SATA HD" adapter from Partsdom, I'll post once I give it a shake in my HR-10 250.

BTW, posting Ebay links is a waste of time (long term) as they expire in 90 days. I did a lot of useless clicking, but I am good at it. Better to post the salient contents of the listing, so others can figure out.

Here's what Partdom ($6.99 shipped) says about this listing:
"Use the Jmicron 20330 controller (devices such as the 8300HD PVR only works with this controller for hard disk upgrade)."

Could I go with 2 TB reliably instead of just 1 TB? Does the LBA48 have anything to do with these adapters?

If that's a Series 2 TiVo you've got a limit of about 1 or 1.2 TB per drive, but since it's an IDE (PATA) controller you should be able to use 2 drives.

You'll need an adapter for each if both are SATA, and if they're bigger than 500GB or a handful of 640GB or 750GB models, then they will be SATA.

You'll also need an IDE cable with connectors for both drives and the motherboard, long enough to reach everything, and mounting brackets for both drives. Do your homework before spending money.

Search other threads at this site for further info.

LBA48 and the adapters do not directly have anything to do with each other.

If you use a drive that exceeds the LBA28 limit (127 or 137 or something like that GB, depending on whether you're talking decimal or binary GB), which would mean in retail reality one bigger than 120GB (next size up is usually 160), then you need a kernel that can work with the larger drives, which, as far as I know, all of the Series 2s have. The Series 1s need to be patched. (search for "copykern")

So, it's drive size that matters LBA48-wise, not whether the drive is SATA or PATA/IDE.

I mention elsewhere where that adapter is available directly (no eBay) from the same company using different names (wowparts, etc.)

I had originally tried to add two 1TB drives, and while it would boot up, it crashed/rebooted after about 2 minutes after getting to the menus. One drive with this adapter seems to be good (I left the master jumper in place on the adapter).

I had originally tried to add two 1TB drives, and while it would boot up, it crashed/rebooted after about 2 minutes after getting to the menus. One drive with this adapter seems to be good (I left the master jumper in place on the adapter).

For the benefit of future searchers I'm going to point out that if you go back to mmoustakas's first post

in the other thread and read from there, you can see that there are other things going on independent of the SATA and adapter question that could be the source of his problem, so it's not guaranteed that 2 drives and 2 adapters will not work in the TCD240040.

...Could I go with 2 TB reliably instead of just 1 TB? Does the LBA48 have anything to do with these adapters?

I think you're limited to 1.2TB on a Series 2, so you can install a 1.5TB drive and get the 1.2TB. Better that you stick with your 1TB unless a 1.5TB is cheaper.

My Series 2 has a 500GB drive which gives so much space it's ridiculous. Keeping in mind that SD content is just over 1GB/hour, do you really need 1000+ hours? I'd make the same choice now, for a 1TB or 1.5TB based on price alone.

Nope, but I knew that going in. It's what I had laying around. I ordered another 500gb sata drive that I will put in the DSR704 permanently, until that arrives the kids can still watch TV in the basement.

As of April 21, 2011, Amazon has the Avolusion IDESATAADP, the equivalent of the partsdom/wowparts/Neoteric/NSIOutlet LK-13415 JM20330 chipset adapter for less, $1.95 + $2.10 shipping. They may have had it before now, I just happened to notice it today.

I bought one of these last Dec. At the time they said it was the only one in stock. Looks like they got more.

It's basically the same as the LK-13415. I've got 2 of them in one TCD649080 and the one Avolusion in another of the same model Tivo, 1TB Caviar Black WD1001FALS hanging off of all 3, and can't tell any difference in performance.

Since they aren't a Marvell chipset, don't expect to use them in the ultra-finicky Series 1.

Judging by the illustrations the ones from Amazon differ from the Weaknees product in at least the lack of a Master/Slave jumper, which makes me wonder if they can be used in a 2 drive setup.

Are you able to use all 2TB, and if so, how?

Then the image is incorrect, at least in my case. Mine are identical, right down to the lone jumper on the board (and the complete lack of any documentation for the purpose of that jumper(presumably, jumper closed=master?))

I was able to use all 2TB by starting from a drive image that has only a single mfs partition pair, and by manually creating additional MFS partitions with MFSLive, in order to keep the partition size under 1TB max. If you want to know more, PM me, I don't want to take this thread off topic.

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What recording capacity shows in your "System Info" for this drive?

Thanks.

It shows 0 hours. It's a DirecTV unit. I've got a dual drive, 2x750GB unit that I've run for years...also shows 0 hours on the system info screen.

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Used WIN7 64-bit OS running WINMFS and an external SATA to USB cable to image the drive.

eBay listings die from old age, but apparently what you got, adapter-wise, is JMicron chipset based and is the same, or thereabouts, as the partsdomauction/wowparts/nsi outlet one, LK-13415 (or 863 or WLXKJ--863B), except maybe for the lack of a Master/Slave jumper.

eBay listings die from old age, but apparently what you got, adapter-wise, is JMicron chipset based and is the same, or thereabouts, as the partsdomauction/wowparts/nsi outlet one, LK-13415 (or 863 or WLXKJ--863B), except maybe for the lack of a Master/Slave jumper.

Turns out that this setup is not working as well as I thought. It occasionally either truncates or splits a recording into two parts with a 5 minute gap. From reading this forum, it sounds like a Tivo reset is happening. I put the original 80GB IDE drive back in and the problem went away. It took a couple of strong magnifying glasses (I'm old) but the chipset on my generic adapter is by SunPlus. I see that at least one other poster has had problems with that chipset.

Turns out that this setup is not working as well as I thought. It occasionally either truncates or splits a recording into two parts with a 5 minute gap. From reading this forum, it sounds like a Tivo reset is happening. I put the original 80GB IDE drive back in and the problem went away. It took a couple of strong magnifying glasses (I'm old) but the chipset on my generic adapter is by SunPlus. I see that at least one other poster has had problems with that chipset.

eBay listings also aren't always completely accurate, including the pictures, so when I said your's was apparently a JMicron chipset it would seem that I was misled by the listing.

You need an adapter where the seller actually specifies that it uses the JMicron or the Marvell chipset.

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eBay listings also aren't always completely accurate, inlcuding the pictures, so when I said your's was apparently a JMicron chipset it would seem that I was misled by the listing.

You need an adapter where the seller actually specifies that it uses the JMicron or the Marvell chipset.

Since I have a couple of 250GB SATA drives just sitting around I went ahead and ordered the JMicron adapter you specified in an earlier post. I'm willing to spend another $5.99 to try it out before looking for an IDE drive.

After a few weeks, when I'd go to play a recording it would give me an error and say unavailable. I tried many ways to set up the drive and it would always fail the same. Installed an old 120GB drive and it's been rock solid.

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Not the cleanest upgrade I've done, but it's working. At first I bought the Koutech IO-ASA110 IDE to SATA Device Adapter from Newegg, and copied my original shelved Tivo HD to the 750GB WD. That worked fine, MFSLive said AAM wasn't available for the 750GB HD. When I went to put the drive in the Tivo, the Koutech would not fit in the SD-DVR-80. It turns out the 'motherboard' IDE connector in the Tivo is an all pin connector, and the Koutech had pin 20 deleted. Also I'm not sure I could have gotten the cover back on with the koutech sticking up vertically. I went to Micro center to get another adapter, and was handed the Kingwin ADP-06. After I got home I double checked here, and it didn't look like anyone had success with it. I returned it and bought the Manhattan 158282 after checking the chipset in the store. This appears to be identical to the Addonics ADSAIDE, but the wife wouldn't wait for another UPS delivery. When I tried to put the Tivo back together, there was no power. The unit just made a pulsing sound and the fan just twitched with the pulses. I think the power supply went. I may have shorted out the pins on the back for the IDE adapter against the HD when putting the lid back on. Luckily I had a donor HDVR2 I robbed the power supply out of. I added foam tape to the back of the adapter, swapped power supplies, and fired it up. All is good, except now I'm retrograded to SW 3.1.1. I now have 661 hours. It previously was running dual 120GB drives, with about 204 hours. These lasted about 5 1/2 years before flaking out. The odd thing is diagnostics afterwards says the drives are fine. I was getting audio drops, video freezing and reboots.

Not the cleanest upgrade I've done, but it's working. At first I bought the Koutech IO-ASA110 IDE to SATA Device Adapter from Newegg, and copied my original shelved Tivo HD to the 750GB WD. That worked fine, MFSLive said AAM wasn't available for the 750GB HD. When I went to put the drive in the Tivo, the Koutech would not fit in the SD-DVR-80. It turns out the 'motherboard' IDE connector in the Tivo is an all pin connector, and the Koutech had pin 20 deleted. Also I'm not sure I could have gotten the cover back on with the koutech sticking up vertically. I went to Micro center to get another adapter, and was handed the Kingwin ADP-06. After I got home I double checked here, and it didn't look like anyone had success with it. I returned it and bought the Manhattan 158282 after checking the chipset in the store. This appears to be identical to the Addonics ADSAIDE, but the wife wouldn't wait for another UPS delivery. When I tried to put the Tivo back together, there was no power. The unit just made a pulsing sound and the fan just twitched with the pulses. I think the power supply went. I may have shorted out the pins on the back for the IDE adapter against the HD when putting the lid back on. Luckily I had a donor HDVR2 I robbed the power supply out of. I added foam tape to the back of the adapter, swapped power supplies, and fired it up. All is good, except now I'm retrograded to SW 3.1.1. I now have 661 hours. It previously was running dual 120GB drives, with about 204 hours. These lasted about 5 1/2 years before flaking out. The odd thing is diagnostics afterwards says the drives are fine. I was getting audio drops, video freezing and reboots.

So you got the Koutech that plugs into a motherboard IDE header instead of the one that plugs into the back of the SATA drive?

Since I have a couple of 250GB SATA drives just sitting around I went ahead and ordered the JMicron adapter you specified in an earlier post. I'm willing to spend another $5.99 to try it out before looking for an IDE drive.

So far so good with the approved adapter and the same 250 GB drive as before. Initially I did a stress test over three days where I scheduled lots of variations of single and double records. No problems then and no problems since just doing a normal level of recording.

Both adapters are almost identical except for the power connector housing on one is black and the other is white. When powering up the TiVo, I get stuck on the initial loading screen indefinitely. With the cover on the TiVo taken off, I can see that the green light comes on on the adapter for 5-10 seconds then the red light comes on indefinitely. For setting up my 1TB drive, I tried both doing a backup of the original 40GB drive to a file on my computer and restoring that to it, as well as a direct copy from drive-to-drive, both using winmfs. I've used winmfs in the past for several TivoHD units with zero problems. I also tried with the jumper both on and off to no avail (no mention of wtf it does that I could find anywhere). No jumper settings on the WD10EARS either.

Any suggestions? Kind of feel stuck now. Should I order a different adapter in the hopes that it is the adapter? I haven't seen the mention of the WD10EARS here anywhere, I bought it because it's inexpensive and reliable based on my experience with upgrading TivoHD units with it (maybe I made a bad assumption there ).

Both adapters are almost identical except for the power connector housing on one is black and the other is white. When powering up the TiVo, I get stuck on the initial loading screen indefinitely. With the cover on the TiVo taken off, I can see that the green light comes on on the adapter for 5-10 seconds then the red light comes on indefinitely. For setting up my 1TB drive, I tried both doing a backup of the original 40GB drive to a file on my computer and restoring that to it, as well as a direct copy from drive-to-drive, both using winmfs. I've used winmfs in the past for several TivoHD units with zero problems. I also tried with the jumper both on and off to no avail (no mention of wtf it does that I could find anywhere). No jumper settings on the WD10EARS either.

Any suggestions? Kind of feel stuck now. Should I order a different adapter in the hopes that it is the adapter? I haven't seen the mention of the WD10EARS here anywhere, I bought it because it's inexpensive and reliable based on my experience with upgrading TivoHD units with it (maybe I made a bad assumption there ).

Thanks!--

It's hard, o.k., make that technically impossible, to know exactly what you're getting with these adapters, or if it'll be the same next week as it was last week.

The Amazon link shows the front of one model, no master/slave/cableselect jumper header, but apparently the solder pads for it (which may or may not actually connect to anything on this particular one), and it shows the back of a different model that does have a jumper header.

While I was writing this, I went from the Amazon link, which showed the seller as Importer520, to the customer reviews, and then back to the original page, by which time the seller had been changed to Gamesalor International limited.

Did yours come with the 3M foam tape? Was it already stuck on?

I've got what I'm pretty sure is the same model adapter as the Partsdom one from eBay. It works in a Series 2 with a 1TB drive. The jumper header in the lower right hand corner should have a jumper on it for single drive operation in the TiVo.

While you've got the drive out, use wdidle3 to disable intellipark on the drive.

This will prevent a possible problem with warm boot failure in the future after you've already sealed the drive up in the TiVo.

As for your problem:

On the drive itself there should be a jumper block to the right of the power and data connectors, and putting a jumper across pins 5 and 6 should disable autonegotiation, which I don't know if the 540 can do, and "hardwire" the drive for 1.5Gb/s, which is plenty fast for the TiVo.

Check the drive's documentation to be sure those are the right pins to jumper.

It may also have a pins 7 and 8 setting to force it to pretend to have 512 byte sectors instead of the 4K "advanced format" ones it actually does have. (I'm pretty sure this is a 4K drive, the 20EARS is). I don't know if that would make any difference or not, but you'd have to set it for 512 emulation and then do the copying and expanding.

I'm thinking it's likely that whole SATA I vs. SATA II (1.5 vs.3) thing, but, the 540's power supply isn't famous for having lots of extra in reserve, and it and its capacitors have some age by now, so if the SATA mode limit jumper doesn't do the trick, we can maybe see if the power supply is marginal by leaving it to run the TiVo while powering the drive separately.

Being careful not to set up a possible electrocution scenario, power the drive from a separate source, like a computer power supply, then plug in the TiVo. Best to do the plugging at the wall socket rather than the back of the TiVo (which really shouldn't be moving around during this cover off, jury-rigged drive power experiment), or better yet, use an outlet strip with a switch placed where you can shut it off in an eyeblink.

If it turns out to be a power supply problem, we'll teach you how to look for "capacitor disease".