FTA: As heartbreaking as Holt's death is, he is far from the first person to be killed in an accidental shooting even this year. According to Policy Mic, accidental shootings killed 851 Americans in 2012.

I wonder how many of those accidental shootings were Darwin Awards, unlike this sad case.

/Let's throw in suicides in 2012 by guns, for good measure://Oh, I can't find that statistic easily on Google as the NRA fights collection of that data.

AirForceVet:FTA: As heartbreaking as Holt's death is, he is far from the first person to be killed in an accidental shooting even this year. According to Policy Mic, accidental shootings killed 851 Americans in 2012.

I wonder how many of those accidental shootings were Darwin Awards, unlike this sad case.

/Let's throw in suicides in 2012 by guns, for good measure://Oh, I can't find that statistic easily on Google as the NRA fights collection of that data.

Dry firing a gun will later lead to steam cleaning a carpet. Odds are, Stanley Steamer will not be removing pee and poo from your carpet, but more likely blood and brain, with the occasional bits of bone and hair.

It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.

My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.

skozlaw:It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.

skozlaw:It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.

But he was also dry-firing it. So, he was attempting to murder her and it was self defense. Therefore she's a role-model for gun rights and feminism.

And once again, a senseless death could have been avoided had the folks involved followed Rule One of gun safety: ALWAYS TREAT THE GODDAMNED GUN LIKE IT'S LOADED. No exceptions. If the firearm in question is not currently in pieces for storage/cleaning, then you don't look down the farking barrel, you don't pull the trigger unless you want to shoot something, and you sure as hell don't point the goddamned thing at something that you aren't willing to kill!

Hell, I've known this shiat since I was 6. The hunter's safety course I was in at age 9 drilled that damned phrase in every five minutes or so. Always treat a gun as though it's loaded, and you're far less likely to do something stupid like shoot your boyfriend.

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER:My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.

What about bent sticks? Or their finger? Dear god what if they got ahold of a Poptart!

skozlaw:It's never a tragedy when stupid people get shot doing stupid things. Tragedy in this sort of circumstance implies an accident and getting shot playing with guns like they're children's toys is never accidental.

Ever.

The girl should be charged with murder and everyone else involved as accomplices to it.

If gun owners want to be seen as responsible, let's help them out by starting to hold them responsible when they act like farging retards with the damn things. Maybe if we started locking idiots like these up for long periods of time the only ones left in any significant measure WOULD be the ones that are actually responsible after a time.

That's some weapons grade Derp there. Substitute "automobile" for gun and I believe you'll see why.

ManateeGag:More retarded people with guns ruining to for responsible adults.

There isn't much objection to the idea that guns should be kept out of the hands of criminals, and there's only a moderate amount of objection to the idea that guns should be kept out of the hands of complete morons and the chronically irresponsible.

The problem is, there is near total and fervent resistance to the idea that any attempt whatsoever should be made to try to identify criminals and morons so that they may be prevented from owning a gun prior to someone getting killed.

I think the reason is they're afraid they won't pass the test themselves. Which probably means they, too, should not be allowed access to firearms.=Smidge=

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER:My nephews wonder why I don't allow them to point toy guns, Nerf guns, or squirt guns at me or each other. Bad habits are hard to break. We never had BB guns when I was a kid, because kids will treat them like toys. We could, however, go shooting real guns with adult supervision whenever we asked. At age 11 each of my brothers and sister and I received our first .22's. By that age we'd been well drilled in gun safety.

That's a-tier level retarded. I shot guns as a kid and also played with nerf guns and water guns and shot them at people. I never confused the two, don't know anyone who did.