I didn't realize half those bands are considered Metalcore or Hardcore I always lumped it into one genre because I was too lazy to figure out who went where but you dumbed it down enough for me so thank you.

Grindcore in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore. Meaning they're more complex in the musical writings.

I don't feel like typing out a definition of screamo, because I know someone's going to ask it in here eventually, so if you want one:

Go to the pop-punk forum.

Search for a thread titeld "REAL screamo"

Voila.

It just so happens that thread was bumped for some reason the other day. here:

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Originally Posted by BuddyBigsby

Ok, this is sort of a stupid thing to make a thread about, but it's been getting on my nerves more and more lately as I see the term screamo being thrown around to emo, pop-punk, and emocore bands like Thursday, Thrice, Poison the Well, Alexisonfire, and so on. Screamo is not this. Screamo is a really noisy, chaotic, and ultimately pretty unknown type of music. Some screamo bands are: Neil Perry, Kaospilot (hehe, norwegians), Orchid, Love Lost But Not Forgotten, and Pg. 99. I'm just getting into this form of music, is anyone else here into these bands?

Emocore style has become broader over the years. In the beginning, these bands consisted mostly of people who played in hardcore punk bands, got burned out its limited forms, and moved to a guitar-oriented, midtempo rock-based sound with emotional punk vocals (i.e., no posed soulful crooning like pop music). The central aspect here is the guitars - distorted, strummed mostly in duo unison, with occasional catchy riff highlights. This becomes known as the classic "D.C. sound," along with the octave chords that show up in later "emo" music. Later bands bring in more pop elements, like catchy-riff based songs, pop song structures (listen to Jawbreaker's "Chesterfield King" to illustrate this), and less-punk, more-smoothly-sung high-register singing (less yelling, straining, throatiness). Listen to Elliot or Chamberlain for an example of how alternative-pop this music has become. Yet those bands are undeniably still emocore. Also note most emocore bands play Gibson Les Paul guitars, with a few SGs, and use mostly Marshall JCM-800 amps.

Emo is one of the most misunderstood genres of all time. Started 1988 post-Minor Threat. One of the most recognizable and universal elements of emo shows up in the guitar sound of this style: the octave chord. The vocal style is usually much more intense than emocore, ranging from normal singing in the quiet parts to a kind of pleading howl to gut-wrenching screams to actual sobbing and crying. Lyrics tend toward somewhat abstract poetry, and are usually low in the mix and hard to decipher.

Well, Hatebreed are the true definition of metalcore. Unlike other "metalcore" bands (Bleeding Through, As I Lay Dying) which are 99% metal, 1% hardcore. Hatebreed are pretty 50/50. Seriously, listen to a real hardcore band like Blood for Blood or something... how much of that do you hear in BT or AILD? That's right, none.