Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 16:15:You mean the gadgets that keep getting disabled due to security issues? And that the majority of people don't use. Odd I've yet to use the ribbon, but that's probably because I've been using nothing but keyboard shortcuts for the last 12 years.

Disabled due to "security" issues 6 years after being introduced, conveniently just a few months before Windows 8 release. And they never even bothered to fix the security holes, instead they tell people to buy windows 8 or just sod off and disable the feature. The MS website used to have gadgets that were tested by MS and perfectly safe for use, once again you go there and it pushes you towards Windows 8.

As for a majority not using it, how much is that? Even 10% of windows 7 licenses sold is 60 million people.

One cool thing about Windows 8: it works really well with the latest version of Splashtop from an Android tablet, since Splashtop now uses Windows 8's built-in touchscreen device support. You can use Windows 8's own onscreen keyboard and everything.

One odd thing: whenever Fallout New Vegas crashes on me, it takes down Metro altogether. No more start menu unless using a start menu replacer. What?

One annoying thing: The task manager, while very nice, takes forever to start.

NegaDeath wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 14:20:Start8 fixes a few things but not all. You need the 8 Gadget Pack to restore desktop gadgets, and if you dislike "ribbons" you need another utility to restore the windows 7 interface in explorer. There are a few other things but they're pretty minor. And yes people miss aero glass, not everyone likes the minimalist Windows 95 approach of 8.

So yes if you install a few mods you can get an uglier, slightly faster Windows 7. Assuming MS doesn't disable these mods with a patch again.

You mean the gadgets that keep getting disabled due to security issues? And that the majority of people don't use. Odd I've yet to use the ribbon, but that's probably because I've been using nothing but keyboard shortcuts for the last 12 years.

--"For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is always wrong." --H.L. Mencken

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 13:38:No but start8 does. And really I can't find a difference between Win7 or Win8 with it. Unless you've got a real hardon over aero, which I hated anyway.

Start8 fixes a few things but not all. You need the 8 Gadget Pack to restore desktop gadgets, and if you dislike "ribbons" you need another utility to restore the windows 7 interface in explorer. There are a few other things but they're pretty minor. And yes people miss aero glass, not everyone likes the minimalist Windows 95 approach of 8.

So yes if you install a few mods you can get an uglier, slightly faster Windows 7. Assuming MS doesn't disable these mods with a patch again.

Axis wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 13:56:1. Windows 8 is garbage.2. Classic shell and familiarity makes windows 8 suck less, but still sucks.3. Internet explorer is garbage.4. Internet explorer is better than it used to be, but still sucks.5. The only reason "IE is "growing", is because people buy windows computers and laptops, which have IE on, and people are still lazy.

Axis wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 13:56:1. Windows 8 is garbage.2. Classic shell and familiarity makes windows 8 suck less, but still sucks.3. Internet explorer is garbage.4. Internet explorer is better than it used to be, but still sucks.5. The only reason "IE is "growing", is because people buy windows computers and laptops, which have IE on, and people are still lazy.

Shorter Axis: screw Windows, go play Path of Exile.

Ya what JD said!

On the Open Source discussion, I've ran open office, thunderbird, and firefox with no scripts for years now - there's simply no better alternatives paid for or not.

Course I run virtually all open source apps anyway at home and on my clients regardless of OS -- 7zip, gimp, filezilla, joomla, vlc, sage, the list goes on.

Axis wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 13:56:1. Windows 8 is garbage.2. Classic shell and familiarity makes windows 8 suck less, but still sucks.3. Internet explorer is garbage.4. Internet explorer is better than it used to be, but still sucks.5. The only reason "IE is "growing", is because people buy windows computers and laptops, which have IE on, and people are still lazy.

deqer wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 20:16:Of course there is a decline in windows 7, when you have vendors like Dell forcing Windows 8 on customers now. What did you expect? Since it's being forced on people, I wouldn't say it's anything to really talk about. It's shit.

Of course there is a decline in windows 7, when you have vendors like Dell forcing Windows 8 on customers now. What did you expect? Since it's being forced on people, I wouldn't say it's anything to really talk about. It's shit.

JediPunisher wrote on Feb 3, 2013, 16:56:I read that MS is pushing for a 12-18 month upgrade cycle for Windows along with a subscription model similar to the new Office 2013

Good luck with that.Last I've heard their Office package isn't exactly a hot seller anymore. New OS every year is just silly talk.I've switched to Open Office about a year ago, never looked back. Since then most of my office staff converted over to Open Office also.No gimmick basic Office software, it works and the price is right.

What are you using for mail? I'd love to kick office to curb (at least at home), but I really like Outlook, and have yet to find something I like to replace it...