Cenarion Ward would become one of the most efficient spells available to us. The one deterrence for this ability will be its overhealing. But I feel if used smartly (such as on Protectors for Lightning Prison targets) the healing done could outweigh the overhealing. If used on CD this ability will now do double the healing of Nature's Swiftness, but with a mana cost.

Good work on the maths there, pretty excited about this talent. I think that I'll dip into SoTF for a while but I'm not sure if I'll stick to it as I don't want to lose the Tree of Life from incarnation. I'm at least glad we'll have more than 1 option from the level 30 talents next tier.

I don't got that "big" hopes for it. Yes it get a buff but most of the healing will probably go to overhealing and as storm said does it even stack with haste ? On most bosses i think that the SoF proc is better to use on Wild Growth rather than this but we don't know how the new boss fights yet so we will see.

I can see my self using that on tank damage-heavier fights like Lei Shi (when adds are out and stacks get high) keeping LB + RJ on one tank and CW + RK on the other tank... Could be useful on heroic Garajal too to have an extra hot on a Voodoo doll... But overall I gotta agree NS is really useful for a non-bursty class like us...

Although it would make sense for it to be 114% (considering the Blizz blue post said 100% increased healing), the current value shown through wowdb.com indicates 104%. I assume that's the most recent datamined value.

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1. It scales better than every spell we have (unless I'm overlooking something).
2. I have no idea how it scales for tanks. It should be a lot stronger than NS+HT for a Bear. I'm not sure how it will compare to Renewal in overall healing done. It can be cast in Bear form.
3. If you can manage to get at least 2 effective ticks from this per use and can use it at least twice as often as you'd normally use NS+HT, this easily comes out ahead. It still has "burst heal" potential, but being a hot, the healing will be slower. I think this will be a very subjective decision.

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Certainly true, giving it nice utility. But realistically, how often in a 10 man would the bear tank need to res? You'd have to be in a 10 man without any warlocks, dks or druid dps/healers (and in a 25 man, you're pretty much guranteed to have enough of those for your ressing needs). Heck, if you were really that desperate (the druid tank being the only battle res you have) you could symbiosis the holy paladin. :P So I wouldn't consider NS to be a requirement for a raiding tank.

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