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This is very true. Homebrewers cite to a given experiment as conclusive proof of a given point but the conclusion rarely has such a broad application. Generally the results are some evidence of a particular conclusion under a particular set of circumstances.

Other mods may be more in tune with what is happening. I know I have seen objections to Bayareabrewer's posts, It is simply impossible for me to police every post made on this forum. If there were inappropriate posts by certain individuals it wasn't intentionally over looked. I promise that.

I was under the impression a troll is someone that intentionally spouts of nonsense in a deliberate manner to ruin things. For example, if someone came on here and just said "I hate beer and homebrewing should be illegal" or something like that. I've never intentionally been a troll or tried to ruin things.

My beliefs towards all this LODO stuff is well documented. The response I've gotten from the LODO proponents has been to either call me a "amateur hobbyist" or state that my ignorance is not as good as their knowledge. That's where my problem lies with them.

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I lurked for a long time before making an account, and it really seems that the behavioral issues revolve around 2 members, monk and beerery. Just my observation.

You've definitely trolled those two with snide comments and personal attacks. That is not to say their comments are always above the board but neither are yours. You've inserted personal attacks and snideness into meaningful dialogue in ways that makes it difficult to imagine your goal wasn't to derail the conversation on LODO.

Jeeeezuz, what'd I miss? I don't check the forum out for a couple of days and come back to meltdown. What's the matter with you guys? It's only beer, do it the way you want and move on. The low oxygen threads are information threads, not argument starters. Is it STILL June of 2016?

I don't have a strong position about LODO. The goals of the LODO advocates are not necessarily my goals. I appreciate the ideas they have brought and earnestly believe they are trying to make the best beer they can in the styles they enjoy drinking and want to help others do the same. I think overall since the return of LODO advocates the conversation has been constructive and several members have tried their techniques and report positive results.

That said, I do think the forum, as a whole, has been a less receptive place since their return. I agree with Keith's concerns that a lot of topics suffer a heavy handed response of a paragraph of brewing text with the expectation that this is the single correct answer and intimates that all other responses are wrong. Sometimes an interesting technical conversation arises from it but the original topic question gets lost. That's no problem with everybody in the conversation has a high level of brewing knowledge but many of the posters and lurkers here are not technical brewers or seek a more narrow answer to their question. It pulls most conversations here into a LODO discussion.

I do not mean LODO discussions are bad or mean to vilify LODO. I would feel the same way if people came and drew all conversations into brewing IPA, using eighteenth century English brewing methods, or only preached mixed fermentations. No paradigm or style should monopolize discussion.

Encouraging good discussion is all of our responsibility. None of our participants should be permitted to post in a manner that is oppressive or dismissive of others. Conversations should endeavor to stay on topic, within reason. We've always meandered through topics but if a conversation is veering into a technical area or brand new subject it should be peeled off into a new thread or relegated to an existing thread on that subject. When we respond to a thread, we should always consider whether our response is helpful and responsive to the OP.

I think our mods should moderate towards these ends. Posting bare blocks of texts from brewing manuals or links without context or application to the subject should not be permitted unless requested by another poster. Topics with a limited subject should be cleaned up or closed when they derail unhelpfully. I am generally not a fan of aggressive moderation but we may be at a point where the forum needs some breathing room.

I'm pretty basic with mason jars in the fridge. Like Jim, I've done pretty much every variant.

These days when I buy a new strain I like to make a starter larger than what I need for the first batch and send the extra portion to a mason jar so I have a clean slurry. I may or may not harvest slurry from batches of beer. I can always make a starter out of the clean slurry and repeat the process so there's always clean slurry in the fridge and healthy yeast going into beer.

I have some mixed cultures as well. These stay in mason jars in the fridge as well. Periodically I take them out, pour off some of the liquid and add a little fresh wort. I'll leave it at room temperature for a day or two with the lid loose. Then I seal it up and put it back in the fridge.

You could easily take a recipe for an English brown or porter in that range and ferment it with a Belgian strain. You could sub in a little special B or dark syrup if you want but neither are necessary.

If you are a member of the AHA, you can access the 2015 seminar "Panel: Taking Homebrewing to the Pro Level, From Concept and Design Through Opening" and the 2014 seminar "Top 10 Legal Mistakes Start-Up Breweries Make" which both discuss raising funds legally. There are also books on going pro that most likely discuss raising funds legally.

Can't stress agreement with this enough. You can get yourself and your business into an enormous amount of problems soliciting investments unlawfully.

I thought this was really going to be about pot brownies. Now that it is legal it's an interesting question wether or not it violates our rule about talking about illegal activities. I suppose not as long as you are in a state where it's legal.

It's still illegal by federal law even if the presently-leaving president chose not to enforce it in states that legalized it. Without turning this discussion political, we don't know how the new president will address that issue. Even if he choose not to enforce federal law on the subject, it's still illegal.