stevep52 wrote:Not sure if I am missing something obvious, but what is a Cripper band?

Way back before Round 1 of 70k, Andy wanted to find a good, not-too-expensive way to round out the lineup. To do so, he decided to book several largely unknown bands from a variety of countries and genres. One of them was Cripper, whom the sailors loved SO MUCH decided to give them an award for Greatest Previously Unknown Band. Now Andy does this every year, and we call these bands "Cripper bands".

Way back before Round 1 of 70k, Andy wanted to find a good, not-too-expensive way to round out the lineup. To do so, he decided to book several largely unknown bands from a variety of countries and genres. One of them was Cripper, whom the sailors loved SO MUCH decided to give them an award for Greatest Previously Unknown Band. Now Andy does this every year, and we call these bands "Cripper bands".

stevep52 wrote:Not sure if I am missing something obvious, but what is a Cripper band?

Way back before Round 1 of 70k, Andy wanted to find a good, not-too-expensive way to round out the lineup. To do so, he decided to book several largely unknown bands from a variety of countries and genres. One of them was Cripper, whom the sailors loved SO MUCH decided to give them an award for Greatest Previously Unknown Band. Now Andy does this every year, and we call these bands "Cripper bands".

Cool. A few bands I would like to see added may actually fall into this category.

PacNW wrote:I would love it if Impaled is the next band. I saw them back in 2007-2008 or so and really enjoyed them, but then they went hiatus or something?

They put out a new album in 2013 and played MDF 2014. They are still listed as active on Metallum.

They are semi-active. They played a show this year in Europe, and are open to playing more shows, but the Impaled project is not what most members are focusing on as their primary project at the moment.

stevep52 wrote:Not sure if I am missing something obvious, but what is a Cripper band?

Way back before Round 1 of 70k, Andy wanted to find a good, not-too-expensive way to round out the lineup. To do so, he decided to book several largely unknown bands from a variety of countries and genres. One of them was Cripper, whom the sailors loved SO MUCH decided to give them an award for Greatest Previously Unknown Band. Now Andy does this every year, and we call these bands "Cripper bands".

Yep. I'm pretty sure we already have a few Cripper contenders for 2018 if we go by last.fm or Spotify listener statistics like before. Aeternam and Gyze, probably...and maybe a couple more.

stevep52 wrote:Not sure if I am missing something obvious, but what is a Cripper band?

Way back before Round 1 of 70k, Andy wanted to find a good, not-too-expensive way to round out the lineup. To do so, he decided to book several largely unknown bands from a variety of countries and genres. One of them was Cripper, whom the sailors loved SO MUCH decided to give them an award for Greatest Previously Unknown Band. Now Andy does this every year, and we call these bands "Cripper bands".

Yep. I'm pretty sure we already have a few Cripper contenders for 2018 if we go by last.fm or Spotify listener statistics like before. Aeternam and Gyze, probably...and maybe a couple more.

Aeternam has 10,030 listeners on last.fm, and last year the cutoff was 10,000

Pellaz wrote:Yep. I'm pretty sure we already have a few Cripper contenders for 2018 if we go by last.fm or Spotify listener statistics like before. Aeternam and Gyze, probably...and maybe a couple more.

Aeternam has 10,030 listeners on last.fm, and last year the cutoff was 10,000

The question is, how many listeners did they have before they were announced?

As mentioned previously, a number of bands that I would like to see that may fit into this category.

2017 we had 7 official Cripper contenders, though I believe Andy books anywhere between 10 and 15 bands he will refer to as Crippers. Our cutoffs are usually put in place to intentionally exclude bands that have very well known players in the metal scene (Ghost Ship Octavius, Avatarium) to truly keep with that unknown feel.

EDIT: This all being said, there was no winner of the 2017 Cripper Award. Don't ask the details, suffice to say there's a couple bugs in the voting process.

As mentioned previously, a number of bands that I would like to see that may fit into this category.

2017 we had 7 official Cripper contenders, though I believe Andy books anywhere between 10 and 15 bands he will refer to as Crippers. Our cutoffs are usually put in place to intentionally exclude bands that have very well known players in the metal scene (Ghost Ship Octavius, Avatarium) to truly keep with that unknown feel.

EDIT: This all being said, there was no winner of the 2017 Cripper Award. Don't ask the details, suffice to say there's a couple bugs in the voting process.

2016 I think was very contentious because there were two very standout bands. A power metal band and thrash band. I think that really divided people more then if there had been just one standout or the standouts were of a similar genre.

2017, while there were issue, I don't think it boiled down so much to a genre riff, just people were a little ticked off about the outside lobbying. Me personally I was less worried about it in 2017, because none of the cripper bands blew me away last year (no knock against anyone who had a strong favorite for last year, just I did not)

slayergeek wrote:2017, while there were issue, I don't think it boiled down so much to a genre riff, just people were a little ticked off about the outside lobbying. Me personally I was less worried about it in 2017, because none of the cripper bands blew me away last year (no knock against anyone who had a strong favorite for last year, just I did not)

Pretty much. I did have a favourite, but I was so ticked off at the escalation of the voting that I fully agreed with the committee's decision to pull it.

Pellaz wrote:Yep. I'm pretty sure we already have a few Cripper contenders for 2018 if we go by last.fm or Spotify listener statistics like before. Aeternam and Gyze, probably...and maybe a couple more.

Aeternam has 10,030 listeners on last.fm, and last year the cutoff was 10,000

The question is, how many listeners did they have before they were announced?

Heh, that's exactly what I was thinking.

slayergeek wrote:2017, while there were issue, I don't think it boiled down so much to a genre riff, just people were a little ticked off about the outside lobbying.

It was entirely due to people being ticked off about the outside lobbying, and with good reason IMO. The award shouldn't be a popularity contest, or a test of a band's social media skills....it should be based solely on 70K Survivors' impressions of the bands they saw and liked.

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