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I hate the nick version they really messed up a lot for me. This is mostly due to the fact that 4kids was the dub I grew up with and that I'm used too. Don't get me wrong I think Rai is okay too, but 4kids is my favorite. Before anything else; if wewe don't want to see anything even close to an insult just do yourself a favor and don't read this. I'm speaking exactly what's on my mind, no sugar coating. My reasons;

1. The characters are all too girly in the Nick version. They took tomboy Musa and turned her into just another heel wearing typical girl. What happened to the sneakers and short hair? Of course this would've happened in the 4kids version too. But the voices make it even worse and it seems like everything not just characters are zaidi girly in this version. And a lot zaidi childish too. The spells, the cloths, the script. Season 5 is overdone with romance. 4kids balanced it out for the most part where as in season 5 girly romance seems to be a distraction for the Winx girls... and Icy.

2. They are all so... So the same as each other. It seems like all the Winx girls are uigizaji exactly like each other to some degree. And rather than improving and expanding on each character they are down grading them. The Trix have been here for how many seasons now and we don't even know where their nyumbani planet is au what it's called. kwa season 5 all of the Winx and the main villains should have back stories. Again this is probably zaidi of the writer's fault but at least 4kids claimed that they were from a place called Whispiria.

3. The whole go green thing is always rubbed in our faces. I'm cool with it once in a while I mean it's a good message. But they sang a whole song about it while picking up trash. It really contributes to the decline in plot. Sometimes I feel like they are zaidi focused on going green than the actual plot line. And that is not the Winx I grew up watching. A good example is the fact that the Winx know that Tritannus is a problem, but they are zaidi concerned with the trash he leaves around. Perhaps if they, I don't know, focused on beating him (instead of shoving GO GREEN!!!!1!! in our faces) they would get somewhere.

4. Voices and scrips. I have a lot to say for this one: for one they all sound too similar to each other unlike the 4kids dub in which all were unique. Another thing is the nick voice actresses just dont seem to have the same passion as the 4kids one's. In the Nick version they just seem like they are board all the time and very near monotone. The 4kids voice actresses seemed zaidi passionate about in their jobs. They actually sound mad when they are supposed to be mad and joyful when the time comes to be joyful as well. The nick actresses just don't have the passion. On juu of that the nick voices are just not suiting for the characters. For one I loved Tecna's British accent is amazing, sophisticated and perfect for her. The nick version of Tecna sounds girly and boring and plain. And then there's the Trix their nick versions really annoy me. They don't even sound evil. They sound like snobby preteen girls and that bugs me. Icys voice in 4kids was just so suiting for her; cold and evil and it seems to pierce into the souls of her enemies. Nicks Icy just sounds like a sissy and I hate it so much. Darcy's voice was so suiting too; dark and seductive. Nicks Darcy was just so girly and pretty much like Icy's. I also really hate how they talk; for exsample when Icy says "I will never ever ever ever ever leave Tritannus" it was so immature and girly. 4kids never did that they kept their speeches in character.

5. Which leads to the fact that they are all so out of character. I already explained Musa. Not only is Musa different but so are the Trix, it's not just their voices that got to girly, it's like they aren't even evil anymore. When wewe get a perfectly cold-hearted uncaring villain sacrificing herself and getting all touchy with another villain there's a problem. Even in the Rai version Icy wasn't that clingy. I have a feeling that if 4kids still had the dub, that relationship would've been a lot zaidi tolerable and in character.

6. The names are kind of annoying to me as well. They called Mirta, Mista. I'm just not used to it. And I don't like Layla being called Aisha. I mean I can tolerate it but I'm not used to it.

7. The whole fairy of _____ is irritating too. Like it's alright the first time but after like episode 5... We get it already. It gets old. I know that Stella is the fairy of the shining sun, I've known that since I was 8 years old, since season 1! I know Musa is the fairy of Music. They don't have to remind us every time that they transform!

8. It seems like Nick doesn't even care about the series. How long have we been on a hiatus now? And with no indication at all of when the episodes will start up again? Nick is to busy promoting Spongebob and the new Janet McCurdy show. Where as 4kids seemed passionate about the show. They advertised it just as much as they did their best show; Sonic X. They even had little Valentine's siku advertisements with the characters, like the characters actually had a mini discussion on the holiday (I can't be the only one who remembers those) I wish I could find them again because the memory is so vague. They even had blogs for each of the characters on their site, like they would go roleplay as the characters and actually type blogs from their points of view!

9. A lot of people complain that 4kids cut the transformation scenes shorter and I just don't get why. I'm glad they did, that was a "oh thank God" moment for me. The full thing in like the first episode is cool but it soon becomes repetitive and redundant, and looks like they are just filling time so that they don't have to work on the plot as much.

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RegisterAgain I love both versions except Nick. Nick has an awesome animation, but everything seems so irritating!

zanhar1 See I like Rai too, just not Nick.

stellamusa303 It's spelled Jennette.
Anyways, I hope you pardon my language, but Nick's version is kind of a dumbass. Mirta into Mista was silly, and they'd really didn't care about Winx Club. I mean, there are lots of goofs and bloopers they did to Winx Club on the website, I still remembered the photo you posted, Icy, is Stormy?!
What the heck is Nick's problem?! I'm devastated since Nick was the channel I grew up with, and they did a terrible/horrible thing to Winx Club. And the "fairy of ______" irritates me every second! I can't hear the transformation songs! I know, I agree with you! [b]S[/b]tella is the fairy of the [b]s[/b]hining [b]s[/b]un, [b]Mus[/b]a is the fairy of [b]mus[/b]ic, [b]Tec[/b]na is the fairy of [b]tec[/b]hnology and Bl[b]o[/b]om is the fairy of the drag[b]o[/b]n flame.

zanhar1 It's true though, I have no clue why they gave all the villains such nasaly voices. Yeah the mistakes on their website are silly. It prooves that they don't care; yeah mistakes are made but I'm sure they noticed it and just didn't care to fix it. That being said Icy is kind of an important character at that so I don't see how they confused her for Stormy.

zanhar1 It kind of is. Musa's always wearing skirts and heels, so is Tecna, the songs are more girly, and the school uniforms are all cutesy and pink.

ambernigam1 Oh my goodness, thank you so much!! You just outlined every single thing I already thought about the 4Kids Winx Club compared to the others!!! Thank you!!!

zanhar1 ^ Yeah no problem.

RomyMermaid I still like nick the best, but 4kids wasn't that bad. I agree with some of your points, but I think that the nick actresses did have a lot of passion in their voices. I agree that Icy's Nick voice was kinda annoying, but other than that I don't see how 4kids is better than Nick.

zanhar1 [i] I don't see how 4kids is better than Nick.[/i]
I guess it's all opinion. All the reasons in the article are how I personally think it's better. And one of the main ones is that Nick doesn't even seem to care about the show at all. The other one being that I grew up with 4kids so I'm used to those voices; the new ones are to...childish for me.

SilentForce I really don't understand why people blame Nick over the crappy plot of season 5 and 6.Nick didn't have total control over the plot of Winx Club,they just coproduced it with Rainbow.Iginio Straffi is the one that has the final saying about what should and shouldn't be included in the story.He ended his partnership with Nick after season 6 and is Winx Club now better just because Nick isn't involved anymore?No the plot is still immature and unoriginal just like season 5 and 6.
I personally despise the 4Kids dub and can't really understand why so many fans defend it.It is even worse than the Sailor Moon dic dub and that says a lot.Too much stupid changes and ridiculously bad dialogue that wasn't even part of the original.This website list all the differences that the 4Kids dub did and I truly hate almost all of them.http://winx.wikia.com/wiki/Differences_in_Adaptations.I know that you must be thinking"I bet that she hasn't even watched the 4Kids dub and is basing her opinion on a wiki article"but no,I actually did watch the 4Kids dub and all of those differences were there

zanhar1 [i]I really don't understand why people blame Nick over the crappy plot of season 5 and 6.Nick didn't have total control over the plot of Winx Club,they just coproduced it with Rainbow. Iginio Straffi is the one that has the final saying about what should and shouldn't be included in the story.[/i]
I suppose some people think that's Nick's fault. I personally don't. But they do have control over who voices who don't they? I think they also have some control over the lines and such (didn't 4kids) and the script seems more childish. However they can't help Straffi's shitty new plotlines; I just don't get why he dumbed all of his characters down and made them recycled versions of Stella and Bloom...
[i]He ended his partnership with Nick after season 6 and is Winx Club now better just because Nick isn't involved anymore?No the plot is still immature and unoriginal just like season 5 and 6.[/i]
Honestly I can't even say; I didn't bother with season 7 after the last train wreck. Mostly because Icy's not even in season 7 so what's the point?
[i]I personally despise the 4Kids dub and can't really understand why so many fans defend it.It is even worse than the Sailor Moon dic dub and that says a lot.Too much stupid changes and ridiculously bad dialogue that wasn't even part of the original.[/i]
Because it's the best dub? Personally I think it's the least girly and childish. On top of that a lot of us defend it because it's what we grew up with and what we're used to. I also think that the dialog was more mature and witty. I found it to be much more humorous. Granted I haven't seen [i]all[/i] of the Rai version. Don't get me wrong I like Rai well enough, I just like 4kids more. [b]And a lot of it simply has to do with the voice acting[/b] and the voice acting alone; I think the 4kids voice actress suit their characters better the actresses of any other dub--and that's huge for me. If I can't stand to hear their voices then I can't watch the show. I don't like how soft and 'sassy-teen-like' the villain's in the other dubs. Because I grew up with the 4kids voices I can't really get on board with Icy's voice being so soft.
[i]This website list all the differences that the 4Kids dub did and I truly hate almost all of them.http://winx.wikia.com/wiki/Differences__in­_Ad­apt­ati­ons­.I know that you must be thinking"I bet that she hasn't even watched the 4Kids dub and is basing her opinion on a wiki article"but no,I actually did watch the 4Kids dub and all of those differences were there[/i]
Like I said I do like some of the differences but I do wish they kept some other stuff in there. Like the Mirta scenes and the extended Icy/duck scene. But (again) the biggest thing for me is the voice cast. The voice cast is what makes or breaks a dub for me; as in a cartoon, the voice is just as big a part of their character as their personality. I think the voice actresses should highlight and suit their personalities. And I feel like 4kids does this the best.
By all means if Rai or whatever company brings Lisa Ortiz back as Icy, I'm in.

SilentForce "I also think that the dialog was more mature and witty. I found it to be much more humorous"
Not trying to offend but how the hell can the 4Kids dialogue be described as mature?I find the dialogue to be so ridiculously bad that it made me wonder if I was watching an abridged parody instead of the actual show.They actually removed all the mature dialogue and turned into into immature crap.Some Examples:
In episode 22
In the original version Riven after being imprisoned and realizing what a jerk and idiot he has been for teaming up with the Trix sees an illusion of himself as a monster and of course gets freaked out at first but than says"There are many things that I don't like about myself but I am no monster.I have a heart and even through I am not sure if they will ever bee able to forgive for the things I said and done...I have a few friends too".This was one of my favorite moments because it was the only scene in which Riven didn't play the"big bad boy"and it was by far the only scene in which he was sympathetic character.The 4Kids dub just had to ruin this moment by removing the monster sequence and adding crappy dialogu about Riven training about what he is going to say to Darcy.
In episode 26:
When Sky comes back and joins the battle and talks to Riven
In the original he talks about how the Trix turned Magix into a ghost city but in the 4Kids dub they changed it with Sky talking about how Bloom saved him,how awesome she is and that he wants to take her out in a date after the battle is over.
Griffin saying that maybe its time for her to retire and about she always wanted to open a Bed and Breakfest in her home realm.Pathetic attempt at comedy if you ask me.To be honest 4Kids ruined every Faragonda/Griffin scene with the crappy dialogue they added.
Mirta and Lucy going separate ways was very well handled in the original.You can see that Lucy isn't glad about Mirta's decision but still accepts it in a mature way by saying"To each his own but you could still change your mind"and than kindly leaving after Mirta refuses.4Kids totally ruined it by having Lucy calling Mirta a loser.
In season 2:
Layla calling Darkar a phoenix loser and Darkar hearing her and saying tha he isn't a loser because he is so pretty*face palm*This is the most pathetic attempt at being funny that I have ever heard.Are these really the words of a villain who is called"The Prince Of Darkness"
Darkar appearing in front of Layla and saying"Look Its a bird!No,its a man!NO!ts LORD DARKAR"and than after Layla refuses to give him the pixies"Now that kind of attitude is no fun at all! No matter. You'll have to talk to the hand! (shoots Layla) 'Cause the face don't wanna hear it!""*triple face palm*Do these pathetic attempts at comedy really sound mature to you?
Just compare it to the mature dialogue of the original version:
"Foolish girl.You barely have the strength to stand.Hand me the pixies"and"I find your meaningless bravery tiresome, but no matter. Time for you to pay for your mistakes, girl".
Also what's up with the stupid change of Musa being a princess?
I also hate some of the illogical changes they made to the plot.Example:
Tecna trying to expose Avalon
They changed "Plasma Sphere"which was a fire attack into"Sphere of Truth"a truth serum.This change made everything in the 4Kids dub seem illogical because when Tecna uses this so called"Sphere of Truth"to expose Avalon a explosion happens(yeah right,because when you use a truth serum an explosion is most likely to happen lol).The fact that the"Sphere of Truth"didn't work on Avalon even though he was clearly an impostor conflicts the episode in which Avalon's true identity is revealed.
Layla's nightmare
4Kids cut off the scene of the servants turning into Lord Darkar that tells Layla that she is all alone.They also changed the dialogue into being about how Layla shouldn't dance with the villagers and toher stuff about dancing instead of being about how hard it was for the little Layla to face her obligations as a princess.
Diaspro being kiddnapped
4Kids changed the dialogue into yet another pathetic attempt on comedy by making the Patchaman say that Diaspro sends people to exile for wearing one type of denim.
4Kids changing the fact that Sky and Brandon switched identities to throw off assassination attempts and they also changed the dialogue of the scene in which Brandon tells Bloom about Yoshinoya
Flora's and Diaspro's conversation
4Kids changed it into Diaspro saying that she will become a good ruler even though in the original she was talking about how unfair it is that she didn't get to marry a Prince Sky after all the studying she did about posture, ettiquette, court protocol and about how much she still hates Bloom.
Also why the hell did they have to replace the awesome original music?

zanhar1 I'm gonna be honest; I don't have time to reply to every single one of the examples and what not but I do want to respond so you don't think I'm ignoring you or didn't read your comment or something, especially since you typed so much.
So I'll kind of sum it up and say that the more mature dialog thing was mainly referencing to the Nick version. To be quite honest this whole article (despite the title) was mostly typed with the Nick version in mind; particularly where voice acting and dialog is concerned. In comparison to the 4kids version I can't find on thing that's mature about the Nick version.
I am disappointed myself that 4kids cut so much (minus the full transformation sequences), but again, that doesn't change that it's still my favorite dub of the show because it's the version I grew up (thinking was the original) and am used to.
As for the music minus the Trix's song in the 4kids version I kind of though that all of the music (across all versions) minus the instrumentals were annoying.

SilentForce ^
"I'm gonna be honest; I don't have time to reply to every single one of the examples"
Is okay because I myself think that my ranting about what I hate about the 4Kids dub was too freaking long to begin with XD

zanhar1 Yeah, I've done that with my own comments as well. Had this one (about Azula) that was actually long enough to put into an article lol.
Usually I'm game for hugeass comments but for one I'm in a lazy mood today and for seconds I've been doing a shitton of typing for my fanfic.

pumpkinraidnrop I love this, just found this, but it's so true! I also wish they hadn't changed the professors personalities slightly and their voices. Ever since they were little they were always my favourites -_-
Brilliant article :) <3

zanhar1 Granted the Rai is the original so 4kids did the changing, but the voices are great.
Thanks :D

Eiae Ever since Nick too over.. i was losing interest.
In a way winx was as brilliant as sailor moon. Rai at beginning had a nice tone but 4kids just hit it off with real people in magicks. Nick.....i was having bad vibes when i heard those voices and i was right.i rather rai do an alternative story and is totally different that resumes from season 4. I can't get myself to look at nick with pride as i did in the past with other dubbers. I miss that personalty of different type of friends, who care for one another. That chemistry was so powerful. honestly i feell season 4 should be more of them in the class of alfea

zanhar1 "Nick.....i was having bad vibes when i heard those voices and i was right."
Same here though. They all sounded the same to me and I didn't like that at all. And then they pretty much neglected the show. Like they were advertising all of their other shows and didn't even pay attention to Winx. They put it on a huge hiatus and kept changing the date/time it was on. That's actually when I decided to give up on it; I mean I didn't even know when it would be back on.
And I also really miss when they had vastly different personalities.

SilentForce I'm in the minority when it comes to this but I don't see anything wrong with the voice acting in the Nick dub,the only thing I hated was Icy's voice.
"Like they were advertising all of their other shows and didn't even pay attention to Winx."
Well I kinda understand why they were more advertising their own shows,after all without shows like Spongebob Nick wouldn't have become such a famous channel but yeah they should have advertised it more than they did.Also I agree that changing the date/time of the next episode is stupid as hell too.
"And I also really miss when they had vastly different personalities."
Well the blame goes to Iginio for it because he was the one that ruined they different personalities in season 4 which was 1 year before Nick took over the show.Season 4 was when Musa became super girly with super long hair,miniskirts and high heels.Also Bloom became an official Mary Sue in this season because the spotlight was still on her even though her damn story ended and we even got a bullshit love triangle with Bloom's ex boyfriend Andy being still in love with her which just adds the"All guys love her"Mary Sue characterization to Bloom.

zanhar1 Icy's voice annoyed the hell on me. Times that annoyance by two because she's my favorite and deserved much much better.
Well yeah, I mean that's true. But come on, everyone knows Spongebob and they play it all the time so everyone knows what time it's on. Likewise with Fairly Odd Parents.
They changed the time/date so much it was just impossible to keep track of. Which is why the advertising issue became even more of a problem!
I actually didn't watch season 4 so I really can't say much about that. But Iginio is definitely at fault too. I mean I don't know why he went that route with his characters. But the girly-er voices on Nick didn't help. But yeah I've always thought Bloom was a Sue, minus season 1, it just escalated.

SilentForce Well here's a picture of Musa's season 4 outfit: http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30600000/musa-season-4-the-winx-club-season-4-30670177-881-1600.png .It is by far the girliest outfit that Musa ever wore.

zanhar1 I've seen that one. I mean it looks good on her. But it isn't her personality...rather it wasn't.

kawaii_Chicken Thank you so much for writing this! Also look I my favourite version is 4 kids, if the other versions had the same voice actors, the same transformations, the same songs and maybe and some EXTREMELY other smalll differences I would be fine with the other versions. If you wish for me to respond to your comment / reply about my comment do so within the next year and I may respond, OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
(I made this comment on Tuesday 28th of August 12:36 am AEST(Australian eastern standard time) good day)

zanhar1 You're welcome. I think that the main thing for me is the voice actresses; like if the other versions had the same voice actresses I would have liked them more. Rai's voice actresses were tolerable but I hated Nick's they were terrible and all sounded the same--which for me made it unwatchable. Icy is my favorite character and what Nick did with her voice was just unbearable to the point where I just called it quits halfway through season 6.

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