Although we’ve revealed some details of the conversion process (https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread...74620794&sid=1), many of you have asked how many Justice and Valor Points bosses and daily dungeons will actually award. This list is incomplete, and the values may still change, but it covers the majority of the content we’ve been asked about.

Lich King Heroic dungeon boss -- 16 Justice Points

Lich King daily normal dungeon -- 12 Justice Points

Lich King daily Heroic dungeon -- 23 Justice Points

Lich King raid boss -- 23 Justice Points

Cataclysm Heroic dungeon boss -- 75 Justice Points

Cataclysm daily normal dungeon -- 75 Justice Points

Cataclysm daily Heroic dungeon -- 75 Valor Points

Cataclysm 10-player raid boss -- 75 Valor Points

Cataclysm 25-player raid boss -- 105 Valor Points

It’s important to note that once you outgrow content, by leveling past it by a predetermined amount, you’ll no longer gain points. The ‘outgrown’ level for end-game Wrath of the Lich King content is likely to be level 81. Once you level beyond Lich King content you’ll still be able to enter the dungeons, kill bosses, and see their drops, but they will not award you with points. This same principle applies to all content that provides Justice Points, including content from The Burning Crusade.

You can buy Tier with them - how else do you expect people to buy Frost gear after 4.0.1? My question, which I hadn't seen answered anywhere yet - what are the new Justice Point values for all current Frost and below gear??

Btw, Tier 11 gear is bought with Valor Points (with the exception of a couple items). Check the links posted for details on those.

They arent going to reset points once you start leveling? They reset arena points... they should reset this points also...

Think of it this way, Justice vs Valor is Triumph vs Frost. When a new tier comes out, you get a new badge. Now, when a new tier comes out, Valor points are converted to Justice points, and you start anew on Valor. From my understanding, Justice points are never reset, just accumulated. But with 4k hard cap, the Valor -> Justice conversion should be a overwrite, not accumulative.

To give people a reason to try and organize for 25's still. They said they'd do something to ensure 25's wouldn't die off, so this is probably st least one of those things. Getting twenty-five people online at the same time for the same thing isn't something every guild can do, so they should be given a little something extra for that effort. My guild can't, so we'll have to remain happy with our 10 man runs, which we will I'm sure ^^

they've stated multiple times that 4000 JP is the soft cap. Have they stated yet what the hard cap on JP will be?

4k. 4k is a *soft* cap in 4.0.1. In 4.0.3 it will be then be a *hard* cap. 4k. They are doing this so your won't lose any points on the badge conversion, and to allow you to quickly spend points to get below 4k before the hard cap is implemented (at 4k).

The links in the post lead to what the Valor/Justice rewards are, but are the prices known? I couldn't see listed anywhere how many Valor points (along with tokens) for each piece (at each level) of Tier gear, for example.

4k. 4k is a *soft* cap in 4.0.1. In 4.0.3 it will be then be a *hard* cap. 4k. They are doing this so your won't lose any points on the badge conversion, and to allow you to quickly spend points to get below 4k before the hard cap is implemented (at 4k).

And also, if you end up having more than 4000 JP after they convert all the emblems, you will be unable to GAIN any additional justice points until you are below the soft cap again.

The links in the post lead to what the Valor/Justice rewards are, but are the prices known? I couldn't see listed anywhere how many Valor points (along with tokens) for each piece (at each level) of Tier gear, for example.

why not turn off experience gain at 80, just keep breezing through those lvl 80 normal utgard keep 12 min runs? rack up points faster, buy your tier 12 or whatever the next buyable set will be and bobs your uncle.

The links in the post lead to what the Valor/Justice rewards are, but are the prices known? I couldn't see listed anywhere how many Valor points (along with tokens) for each piece (at each level) of Tier gear, for example.

Click the pictures. The prices are displayed with every item. What's not sure is current lvl 80 Frost items (that's what I want to know) for Justice prices.