A deal breaker for me is the lack of a proper thumb joystick in the upper back area- I like to change the focus point directly without taking my eye away from the viewfinder. The back looks like a 60D without the flippy screen!

DB

I can't believe they had the gall to charge more than the Nikon D600. Canon's pricing is downright insulting lately.

Canon's pricing policy is pure MARKETING GENIUS....

........any xxD or xxxD owner will aspire to owning a 6D.... the higher initial entry price for the 6D will ensure (listen to the voices on CR over the last 12 hours as proof) that those serious amateur enthusiasts (incl. 7D owners) will now pony up the extra for a 5D3.....

.... meanwhile lots of budding videographers (look at the Canon 6D Press Release - it mentions 3 categories of user: PHOTOGRAPHERS, VIDEOGRAPHERS & CINEMATOGRAPHERS - 2 out of 3 are video users) will happily pay 2 grand for a FF DSLR video cam with low-light capability as well as compatibility with the new STM lenses

.... read the threads on this forum re. 6D, commentators have polarized into 2 distinct groups:

(1) those who have their credit cards out and cannot wait till October to get their hands on a 6D

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(2) those who think its awful and the disappointment is enough to finally trigger their 5D3 purchase

As a 7D owner I wouldn't buy a 6D, but I'm glad that Canon has just protected the residual value of my 7D with their inane pricing strategy

I saw one pro taking pictures in Bristol Night Race with this:http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=1d%20ma&product=canon_eos1dmkiinLooked his pictures afterwards, no complaints.Why complain about this camera you have not seen picture samples from real life?Take pictures with what you already have and gain more experience taking great pictures.If camera is too expensive for you, buy one you can afford with good lens(es) and start taking pictures.

Well the low rent autofocus system and a top shutter speed less than my current 50D have put my wallet right back in my pocket. I have $2,600 burning a hole in my pocket and I don't think this camera is worth what they are asking. It really looks like they took out as much stuff as possible and hope the "full frame" would sell it. Disappointment. In another 6 months I'll be able to afford a 5D3. I think that is the way to go

Lame. No innovations on either still or motion fronts. If canon continues at this rate they will lose huge market share. I never understand why the little guys are the ones left to do the innovating when the big guys are the ones with enough capital for some serious R&D work. Maybe they are happy selling millions of crappy point and shoots to teenage girls.

Lame. No innovations on either still or motion fronts. If canon continues at this rate they will lose huge market share. I never understand why the little guys are the ones left to do the innovating when the big guys are the ones with enough capital for some serious R&D work. Maybe they are happy selling millions of crappy point and shoots to teenage girls.

What sort of innovations were you hoping for? Canon did change everything with the 5D and 5D II, give them a break. Or switch to something else, you are free to do so. It's a company, not make a wish foundation, they here to make money, not cater to all sorts of weird ass needs on less than a mid-range product. I'll probably get one, I think. I'd like a full frame camera, but not enough to get the 5D III.

Lame. No innovations on either still or motion fronts. If canon continues at this rate they will lose huge market share. I never understand why the little guys are the ones left to do the innovating when the big guys are the ones with enough capital for some serious R&D work. Maybe they are happy selling millions of crappy point and shoots to teenage girls.

What sort of innovations were you hoping for? Canon did change everything with the 5D and 5D II, give them a break. Or switch to something else, you are free to do so. It's a company, not make a wish foundation, they here to make money, not cater to all sorts of weird ass needs on less than a mid-range product. I'll probably get one, I think. I'd like a full frame camera, but not enough to get the 5D III.

Give them a break?? Giving them a break is saying "alright, you deserve a break, don't come to work tomorrow, and actually don't come back at all, we don't need someone who isn't innovative or can't provide people with their needs".

Yes, Canon did a lot with the DSLR world through the 5D and Mk2, so naturally there's the eager anticipation for something huge. Now, an "entry-leve FF" by Nikon provides high IQ uncompressed video and great features all around, and the overall is fantastic compared to the 6D, and that's with Nikon users complaining about what the D600 is lacking in...Why are you defending a major corporation? Sure they're here to make money and they can do what they want, but that doesn't mean users can't express their dissatisfaction.

And weird needs?? In the digital world your "I want FF" is a weird need so what are you talking about?Personally, I think GPS and Wifi are weird and unnecessary, I see the benefit users can have with them in workflow and connectivity, but think they're bells on an underperforming and overpriced device.

Lame. No innovations on either still or motion fronts. If canon continues at this rate they will lose huge market share. I never understand why the little guys are the ones left to do the innovating when the big guys are the ones with enough capital for some serious R&D work. Maybe they are happy selling millions of crappy point and shoots to teenage girls.

What sort of innovations were you hoping for? Canon did change everything with the 5D and 5D II, give them a break. Or switch to something else, you are free to do so. It's a company, not make a wish foundation, they here to make money, not cater to all sorts of weird ass needs on less than a mid-range product. I'll probably get one, I think. I'd like a full frame camera, but not enough to get the 5D III.

Give them a break?? Giving them a break is saying "alright, you deserve a break, don't come to work tomorrow, and actually don't come back at all, we don't need someone who isn't innovative or can't provide people with their needs".

Yes, Canon did a lot with the DSLR world through the 5D and Mk2, so naturally there's the eager anticipation for something huge. Now, an "entry-leve FF" by Nikon provides high IQ uncompressed video and great features all around, and the overall is fantastic compared to the 6D, and that's with Nikon users complaining about what the D600 is lacking in...Why are you defending a major corporation? Sure they're here to make money and they can do what they want, but that doesn't mean users can't express their dissatisfaction.

And weird needs?? In the digital world your "I want FF" is a weird need so what are you talking about?Personally, I think GPS and Wifi are weird and unnecessary, I see the benefit users can have with them in workflow and connectivity, but think they're bells on an underperforming and overpriced device.

You seem angry. A lot of people do want wifi and gps, a lot of people have been complaining about the lack of it. Personally I don't need it. And your needs. What the hell, there's competition, choose them instead. My point is, airing your dissatisfaction and being really upset about a product that doesn't give you what you want because you won't spend the money on the 5D III or 1Dx, I don't understand it doesn't actually change anything. And exactly, fire Canon, find a new employee. Crying about it doesn't help anyone.

It looks exactly like a 60D..the button arrangement is identical! It's more like a FF 60D than a 5Dmk2 replacement.

I can't imagine them releasing a 70D in the future now…if the 60D has 9 cross type, i can't imaging them releasing a 70D with 11 cross type?

However, if the price drops, i will still get the 6D as my 5D3 backup since my backup is the 60D…so it makes a good backup and upgrde to the 60D and with identical button arrangement, i'll be used to it..

December....sigh. I'm with the other person that now has money burning a hole in their pocket, to go full frame. I was going to be content with a 5D II. This camera kinda sounds great to me, in that the price is similar to 5D II now, but has the better sensor closer to the 5D III. It now has me not wanting to buy a 5D II oddly enough and impatience is certainly not able to wait till December. Don't really have enough gear to be completely tied to Canon. Should just go Nikon D600 and pray the line isn't going to make it arriving happen in December anyway. Kinda hating new options right now lol. Should just suck it the hell up and buy a 5D II like was the plan before. Least I can still get the 24mm F1.4 that way and have fun with that. Or get the D600 and Nikon's 24mm F1.4. But hell then I have to take a grand hit selling and replacing my 100-400L....so may as well have used that towards the 5D III instead and still have the better 24mm F1.4 then and keep the 100-400L. 5D III at $2750 just becomes kinda perfect. Get it up and around or over $3000....then the damn Nikon D800 desires jump into play and one is all back at square one at a higher price point. A horrible time for an impatient person ready to go full frame.

It looks exactly like a 60D..the button arrangement is identical! It's more like a FF 60D than a 5Dmk2 replacement.

Since I've got a 60d and am quite happy with it I'd buy the ff version this instant - but not for $2099 *and* a crippled af system @f2.8+, it's either $1099 or at least a full center (double)cross-sensor for me.

The wording might be an unlucky one. It might as well mean that the center point is a higher precision cross-type, and that there are more cross-types among the other 10 points.

I really don't think it is just unlucky wording. Several sources have already confirmed that it has only 1 cross type point, and many Canon related web forums are in flames a.t.m.

No, you're wrong: The 6d has *no* cross type point at all if you use a f2.8+ lens (if I understand the specs and diagrams correctly). Obviously that's how they managed to get that low-light sensitivity - but making it less precise!

Basically it's the anti-5d3 af for low-light landscape shooters with lenses of f4+ ... I find this ridiculous beyond belief, even I wouldn't have expected this downgrade in comparison to the 5d2 from Canon. It's the price for quiet shutter, ff sensor, gps and wifi to protect the 5d3.