Replacement refs = terrible. All Goodells fault for not spending 0.01% of the NFL revenue. Idiot.

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September 24th, 2012, 7:11 pm

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

49ers wrote:

An extra 12 yards in OT? The Lions won on a field goal?

That's huge.

Replacement refs = terrible. All Goodells fault for not spending 0.01% of the NFL revenue. Idiot.

He is an idiot. And i, for one minute, aint gonna even mention the refs in this game. The Lions need to execute on both offense and defense. Im sick of hearing what COULD have happened if it werent for the refs.

September 24th, 2012, 7:38 pm

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

49ers wrote:

An extra 12 yards in OT? The Lions won on a field goal?

That's huge.

Replacement refs = terrible. All Goodells fault for not spending 0.01% of the NFL revenue. Idiot.

the old refs werent that great either. remember last year s game where they gave Ginn 5 yards extra on a run out of bounds after a punt return? that play had a lot less drama than this years OT? If you are one of the people out there complaining about every mistake the replacement refs make lets see how you feel when the real guys come back.

September 24th, 2012, 11:39 pm

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

Just think guys, we're tied with Green Bay at 1-2. And had we won we'd be in a three way tie for the lead of the division

September 25th, 2012, 12:38 am

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

wow, that MNF finish just makes me laugh...happy to see the Packers lose though

Haha these refs suck and I got a friend who sticks up for them because "we couldn't do any better then them".

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September 25th, 2012, 2:50 am

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the old refs sucked too, if they came back this morning we d be complaining about them next sunday at about 130pm...remember week 17 vs green bay last season? what about either game vs the Saints? they tank plenty of important calls. i could see them just as well making the same call as made last night but they would do it more confidently and probably with a discussion on the field rather than with replay. remember when we got screwed on the calvin game winning td? not much different. the indecisiveness is probably what bothers me the most. the frequency of tanking calls is higher but some of that is just the amount of scrutiny they are under. media and major networks would almost always defend the old refs, but these new refs arent getting that luxury and are crumbling under the pressure.

September 25th, 2012, 8:11 am

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

49ers wrote:

An extra 12 yards in OT? The Lions won on a field goal?

That's huge.

Replacement refs = terrible. All Goodells fault for not spending 0.01% of the NFL revenue. Idiot.

Really? Are you serious? You do realize it takes BOTH sides to get the deal done, right? Both sides are to blame.

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September 25th, 2012, 9:21 am

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

Is it just me, or does this loss sting a lot less after the way Green Bay lost yesterday?

Arizona after 3 games has a better record than the Pack, Lions, and Saints combined!

That is life in todays NFL...

Thank god we chose games that will forever have an asterisk to stink the place up.

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September 25th, 2012, 11:36 am

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

thelomasbrowns wrote:

Pablo wrote:

Arizona after 3 games has a better record than the Pack, Lions, and Saints combined!

That is life in todays NFL...

Thank god we chose games that will forever have an asterisk to stink the place up.

there is no reason to think that the real refs would have called that play any differently. bw the process of the catch rule, end zone possession, simultaneous possession, replay rules, etc who knows what other explanations they may have come up with. the nfl released a statement agreeing with the call and review but said that an offensive pass interference should have been called when former NFL refs on the side have been saying they wouldnt call that in a jump ball situation...

i hope this sinks the pack bc there players are being big baby's about it. mccarthy took the high road but his team did not. its week 3, they need to move along and get on with their season than sit around and whine about this call. IMO the Calvin Johnson process of the catch call was a worse call and that was made by the real NFL refs. It got some scrutiny but not every guy on the team went on twitter afterwords losing their minds over it.

September 25th, 2012, 1:11 pm

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Re: GAME DAY THREAD: Lions vs. Titans

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Detroit Lions second look: Where was the defensive line pressure?By Justin Rogers | jrogers@mlive.comon September 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

There were some dominant defensive line performances around the NFL this week.

If you tuned in Monday night, you witnessed the Seattle Seahawks sacking Aaron Rodgers eight times and delivering a hit to the Green Bay Packers quarterback on 12 other occasions. The Arizona Cardinals sacked or hit Michael Vick 18 times. The Chicago Bears got to Sam Bradford a combined 15 times, including six sacks.

Yet the Detroit Lions, who are supposed to have one of the league's most feared front fours came up empty, officially recording zero sacks and just one hit on Tennessee Titans signal caller Jake Locker.

What happened?

First and foremost, Locker did an excellent job ridding himself of the football quickly. Largely operating out of the shotgun (36 snaps vs. nine under center), he was able to fire off a pass in under 2.5 seconds on 29 of his 39 non-play-action drop backs.

Part of the reason Locker was able to get off so many quick passes was the relaxed cushion provided by the Lions cornerbacks on the outside. Whether they were in man or zone, the Lions provided at least one, often both, outside receivers with a 5-8 yard cushion on 30 of the Titans' 44 pass plays.

Even on the plays where Locker held on to the ball a little longer, there was little pressure from the Detroit defense line. Overall, the Lions pressured Locker seven times, including one play which was erased by a Chris Houston holding penalty. Four of those pressures came in instances where the Lions sent an extra pass rush.

When the Lions rushed just their front four, defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch and defense tackle Nick Fairley each pressured Locker once and Ndamukong Suh registered the team's only official hit in the overtime session.

With the push of the defensive tackles largely negated by Locker working out of the shotgun, Titans tackles Michael Roos and David Stewart did an outstanding job containing the Lions' trio of defensive ends.

On the long touchdown to Jared Cook early in the second quarter, Locker held the ball for nearly four seconds, yet was able to stand into the pocket and deliver the strike down the center of the field.

Not only did Stewart and right guard LeRoy Harris shut down Cliff Avril and Fairley one-on-one, center Fernando Velasco was able to peel off his block of Sammie Hill to shut down Willie Young on an attempted stunt up the middle.

By now, you've seen the statistics. Mikel Leshoure carried the ball 26 times for 100 yards in the Detroit Lions' 44-41 overtime loss to the Tennessee Titans, becoming the first Lions running back to hit triple digits in a debut since Billy Sims in 1980.

Like we did with last week's ground game, let's evaluate the performance by taking a closer look at Leshoure and the blocking of the offensive line.

First, let's talk about the offensive line. On the majority of the 26 carries, the push up front was excellent, giving Leshoure quality initial running lanes. The play of left guard Rob Sims deserves to be highlighted.

Sims was dominant against the Titans, not only controlling the point of attack to the left side, but effectively pulling right and eliminating the linebacker in the second level. On the six plays where Leshoure ran behind a pulling Sims, he averaged 4.5 yards per carry, gaining at least four yards on all but one of the carries.

Sims' most impressive play came in the second quarter. On a 2nd-and-7, he pancaked the defensive tackle off the snap, opening the initial running lane for Leshoure. The guard was then able to get to the second level ahead of the back, neutralizing the linebacker. The play resulted in a 12-yard gain, the Lions' longest run of the day.

While mentioning Sims' block in the second level, it should be noted this is an area where the Lions noticeably left yards on the field. On six of Leshoure's runs, a block was either missed or simply ineffective, allowing the linebacker to come up and make the stop.

As for Leshoure, he showed three skills that you like to see. First, there was his ability to cut back. That was evident on his first carry of the game, when he bounced back hard left and hit a hole created by Sims after taking his initial steps toward the right side of the line.

Leshoure also showed the ability to move the pile. On a 2nd-and-5 in the first quarter, the line had a rare failure up front, causing Leshoure to run up the back of his linemen at the line of scrimmage. Instead of bouncing out and getting tackled for a loss or no gain, the back put his head down and kept his legs churning, bulldozing the pile for three yards.

Finally, while he didn't do it a lot, Leshoure showed the ability to break arm tackles when the running lanes were narrow. On a 1st-and-10 carry in the fourth quarter, Leshoure took a handoff going left. As he reached the hole between Sims and left tackle Jeff Backus, both offensive lineman lost their blocks, but Leshoure was able to fight through the arm tackle attempts of both defensive linemen near the line of scrimmage and stumble forward for an eight-yard gain.

What we didn't get to see in this game was Leshoure make a tackler miss. Sure, he outran a Titans defender to the edge on a failed misdirection pitch, but he never made a defender miss a tackle, one-on-one, in space. A lot of that was lack of an opportunity, and based on what we saw during the preseason, we know he's capable of doing it.