feeling pride for a body of land just because you live on that body of land makes no sense to me whatsoever.

edit: just using stereotypical american patriots as an example here, europeans do the the same thing(more or less).

I feel pride for New Zealanders over the actual body of land itself though. I love New Zealanders, and the actual bodies of land that New Zealand is made up of looks sexy as hell. I guess I'm proud of the people and government not the land, so for lack of a better word I use Patriotism.

I don't know if I can pledge allegiance to a flag of the United States. It's kind of fucked up to have to pledge to a flag... it's inanimate - it's idol worship all over again. But I do pledge allegiance to the land of the United States because it is a living, growing thing, and oh does it grow. Other than that, I like being here. We've lost our way over the last decade, but we'll make it back. We always do... bitches.

Wow I can't believe how many of you don't know what patriotism is. It is not taking pride in the accomplishments of your country. It is devotion to your country. If you campaign for something you believe in because you think it will better your country, then you are a patriot, you angsty fucking teenagers.

whoa.. I just realized that in order to advance as a whole in society with the ideas of being utopian and perfect, that we cannot embrace patriotism because that directly creates favoritism and a mass of other things, in turn causing countries to turn on each other with people thinking that they're better than others when in reality, they're really not.

whoa.. I just realized that in order to advance as a whole in society with the ideas of being utopian and perfect, that we cannot embrace patriotism because that directly creates favoritism and a mass of other things, in turn causing countries to turn on each other with people thinking that they're better than others when in reality, they're really not.

Son, are you high?

...cuz I am too lol.

If that's your first realization, congrats. This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and fuck ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless... America that is.

If that's your first realization, congrats. This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and fuck ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless... America that is.

haha.. nah man, i wish i was though. you're absolutely right though, that's kinda what i was attempting or did convey. good luck to us as a species, right?

is it wrong to think, that everyone not mentioning the country they are from, are from the US? does that not speak for itself?

yes it is. by the way not being patriotic doesnt mean that you dont care about the country, i live in spain and ive been camping since day 1 with 15-m and been to all the local assemblies(i think this is the correct term) i just found idiotic the idea that you should take any proud for being born in a certain country

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This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and **** ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless

This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and fuck ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless... America that is.

So you propose that we all share resources or something? Then would every landmass on the world report to one global leader and be under one set of global laws? I don't think that's what you're planning because that sounds like it wouldn't work very well.