It has been designed so that you can successfully achieve your black belt within 1 to 1& Ĺ years. This is not an easy way to attain a black belt. It is a more highly tuned and efficient system encompassing everything you need to know and do in one package.

If you can simply train a minimum of 5 hours per week (can be 2 hours x 3 days per week) then you can do the Black Belt Program. You do not have to attend every single syllabus class. The program is flexible and designed so that you can make up on any classes you miss. Holidays and breaks are also allowed for.

That's all I can say.

Oh, yeah. Except for this bit of shite!

Quote:

Do expect to fail some grades Ė due to the nature of how fast we will be moving, the time is calculated to allow for a few failures. You will not get easy gradings.

TKD

12/09/2007 3:15pm,

TKD Black Belt

One last bit of genius from the FAQ section:

Quote:

Do I have to Fight or Spar?

Not at all. Sparring is very beneficial but it is and should be an optional activity. A lot of people never wish to spar and simply want to improve fitness and self-defence. After developing Self-confidence through training, some of these people will want to try sparring. The majority of Kickboxers donít spar and a small minority compete.

WTF?!?

12/09/2007 3:51pm,

Odacon

God these guys are a blight on martial arts in Dublin. Seriously I think this guy is the biggest disgrace to martial arts in the country. But where did the figure of 6 thousand Drainpipes? I looked around the site and couldn't find their rates.

12/09/2007 4:26pm,

Drainpipes

The price was posted on Boards.ie before.
They did have the price on the site but took it off.
If you e-mail the gym and inquire about this program the may quote the price.
I **** you not 6k for this.

This guy also claims to be a world champion, of what? I don't know.
I've never heard his name before?!

This place is indeed a blight on Irish martial arts but what can we do? People have to be paying those prices or these clowns wouldn't still be in business. Makes me sick.

12/09/2007 4:40pm,

Sam Browning

But how does he protect his pot of gold from the Leprechaun?

Sorry, I'll troll elsewhere. :P

12/09/2007 4:46pm,

Sharkonis

Perhaps we should make this a thread on Black Belt Diploma Mills. I found one to be even more insulting, look at this thread (http://www.nativekenpo.com/ ) I found this ad in BB Mag. It states your can learn from home,and quote: entire course is only $1250, !st Degree Black Belt Diploma included, we work on the honor system..end quote... Lol Holy ****.

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12/09/2007 5:17pm,

The Badger

well Ashida Kim is cheaper, I'm not sure if that makes this better or worse.

Quote:

Do I have to Fight or Spar?

Not at all. Sparring is very beneficial but it is and should be an optional activity. A lot of people never wish to spar and simply want to improve fitness and self-defence. After developing Self-confidence through training, some of these people will want to try sparring. The majority of Kickboxers donít spar and a small minority compete.

Self defence training without sparring? I know I shouldn't be shocked any more but this crap still astonishes me every time I read it.

And 6000 Euros???? That's USD 8,780 for 1 to 1.5 years, 5-6 hours per week.

From their uniforms I bet you any money "kickboxing" = semi-contact points fighting.

All the info is right there in front of ours eyes, no need to dig to investigate, it's bullshit whatever way you cut it.

Oh, I just realized that their kickboxing has forms, how cool is that !!???!!! Obviously you are mistaken in your calling of teh bullshido.

12/09/2007 5:26pm,

Odacon

The guy in charge is a legit world champion in point contact kickboxing/karate. His business practices and "MMA" training are still disgusting, but you cant take away that he's skilled in his orifginal field.