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The week that has just ended was exceptionally rich in events. But no media were able to report it, because they had all deliberately masked certain of their number in order to protect the story that was being woven by their government. London had attempted to provoke a major conflict, but lost to Russia, President Trump and Syria.

The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.

Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council.

However, the Syrian and Russian Intelligence Services got wind of what was being plotted. They realised that the US agents in the Ghouta who were preparing an attack against the Ghouta were not working for the Pentagon, but for another US agency.

In Damascus, the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fayçal Miqdad, set up an emergency Press conference for 10 March, in order to alert his fellow citizens. From its own side, Moscow had first of all tried to contact Washington via the diplomatic channels. But aware that the US ambassador, Jon Huntsman Jr, is the director of Caterpillar, the company which had supplied tunneling materials to the jihadists so that they could build their fortifications, Moscow decided to bypass the usual diplomatic channels.

The Syrian army seized two chemical weapons laboratories, the first on 12 March in Aftris, and the second on the following day in Chifonya. Meanwhile, Russian diplomats pushed the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to get involved in the criminal investigation in Salisbury.

In the House of Commons, British Prime Minister Theresa May violently accused Russia of having ordered the attack in Salisbury. According to her, the ex-double agent Sergueï Skripal and his daughter were poisoned by a military nerve gas of a type « developed by Russia » under the name of « Novitchok ». Since the Kremlin considers Russian citizens who have defected as legitimate targets, it is therefore highly likely that they ordered the crime.

« Novitchok » is known by what has been revealed by two Soviet personalities, Lev Fyodorov and Vil Mirzayanov. The scientist Fyodorov published an article in the Russian weekly Top Secret (Совершенно секретно) in July 1992, warning about the extremely dangerous nature of this product, and warning against the use of old Soviet weaponry by the Western powers to destroy the environment in Russia and make it unlivable. In October 1992, he published a second article in the News of Moscow (Московские новости) with a counter-espionage executive, Mirzayanov, denouncing the corruption of certain generals and the traffic of « Novitchok » in which they were involved. However, they did not know to whom they may have sold the product. Mirzayanov was first of all arrested for high treason, then released. Fyodorov died in Russia last August, but Mirzayanov is living in exile in the United States, where he collaborates with the Department of Defense.

Russian ex-counter intelligence officer Vil Mirzayanov defected to the United States. Now 83 years old, he comments on the Skripal affair from Boston.

« Novitchok » was fabricated in a Soviet laboratory in Nurus, in what is now Uzbekistan. During the dissolution of the Soviet Union, it was destroyed by a US team of specialists. Uzbekistan and the United States, by necessity, have therefore possessed and studied samples of this substance. They are both capable of producing it.

British Minister for Foreign Affairs Boris Johnson summoned the Russian ambassador in London, Alexandre Iakovenko. He gave him an ultimatum of 36 hours to check if any « Novitchok » was missing from their stocks. The ambassador replied that none was missing, because Russia had destroyed all of the chemical weapons it had inherited from the Soviet Union, as witnessed by the OPCW, which had drawn up a certified report.

After a telephone discussion with Boris Johnson, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in turn condemned Russia for the attack in Salisbury.

Meanwhile, a debate was under way at the UN Security Council concerning the situation in the Ghouta. The permanent representative for the US, Nikki Haley, declared – « About one year ago, after the sarin gas attack perpetrated in Khan Cheïkhoun by the Syrian régime, the United States warned the Council. We said that faced with the systematic inaction of the international community, states are sometimes obliged to act on their own. The Security Council did not react, and the United States bombed the air base from which al Assad had launched his chemical attack. We are reiterating the same warning today ».

The Russian Intelligence Services handed out documents from the US staff. They showed that the Pentagon was ready to bomb the Presidential palace and the Syrian Ministries, on the model of what it had done during the taking of Baghdad (3 to 12 April 2003).

Commenting the declaration by Nikki Haley, the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs, who had always called the attack in Khan Cheïkhoun a « Western manipulation », revealed that the false information which had led the White House into error and triggered the bombing of the Al-Chaayrate air base, had in fact come from a British laboratory which had never revealed how it came to possess its samples.

The Russian Minister for Foreign Affairs published a Press release condemning a possible US military intervention, and announcing that if Russian citizens were harmed in Damascus, Moscow would riposte proportionally, since the Russian President is constitutionally responsible for the security of his fellow citizens.

Bypassing the official diplomatic channels, Russian Chief of Staff General Valeri Guerassimov contacted his US counterpart General Joseph Dunford to inform him of his fear of a false flag chemical attack in Ghouta. Dunford took this information vey seriously, and alerted US Defense Secretary General Jim Mattis, who referred the matter to President Donald Trump. In view of the Russian insistence that this piece of foul play was being prepared without the knowledge of the Pentagon, the White House asked the Director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, to identify those responsible for the conspiracy.

We do not know the result of this internal enquiry, but President Trump acquired the conviction that his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, was implicated. The Secretary of State was immediately asked to interrupt his official journey in Africa and return to Washington.

Theresa May wrote to the General Secretary of the United Nations accusing Russia of having ordered the attack in Salisbury, and convened an emergency meeting of the Security Council. Without waiting, she expelled 23 Russian diplomats.

Published one month and a half before the attack in Salisbury, Amy Knight’s book presents what was to become MI5’s thesis. The author herself maintains that she has not the slightest proof of what she is claiming.

At the request of President of the House of Commons Interior Committee Yvette Cooper, British Secretary for the Interior Amber Rudd announced that MI5 (Military Interior Secret Services ) is going to re-open 14 enquiries into deaths which, according to US sources, were ordered by the Kremlin.

By doing do, the British government adopted the theories of Professor Amy Knight. On 22 January 2018, this US Sovietologist published a very strange book – Orders to Kill – the Putin régime and political murder. The author, who is « the » specialist on the ex-KGB, attempts to demonstrate that Vladimir Putin is a serial killer responsible for dozens of political assassinations, from the terrorist attacks in Moscow in 1999 to the attack on the Boston Marathon in 2013, by way of the execution of Alexandre Litvinenko in London in 2006 or that of Boris Nemtsov in Moscow in 2015. However, she admits herself that there is absolutely no proof of her accusations.

The European Liberals then joined the fray. Ex-Prime Minister of Belgium Guy Verhofstadt, who presides their group in the European Parliament, called on the European Union to adopt sanctions against Russia. His counterpart at the head of their British party, Sir Vince Cable, proposed a European boycott of the World Football Cup. And already, Buckingham Palace announced that the royal family has canceled their trip to Russia.

The UK communications regulator, Ofcom, announced that it might ban the channel Russia Today as a retaliatory measure, even though RT has on no occasion violated British law.

The Russian Minister for Foreign Affairs summoned the British ambassador in Moscow to inform him that reciprocal measures would soon be indicated in retaliation for the expulsion of Russian diplomats from London.

President Trump announced on Twitter that he had fired his Secretary of State, with whom he had not yet been in contact. He was replaced by Mike Pompeo, ex-Director of the CIA, who, the night before, had confirmed the authenticity of the Russian information transmitted by General Dunford. On his arrival in Washington, Tillerson obtained confirmation of his dismissal from White House General Secretary General John Kelly.

The ex-CEO of the largest multinational in the world, ExxonMobil, thought he was untouchable. But to his great surprise, Rex Tillerson was brutally dismissed by Donald Trump. The former believed he was serving the Anglo-Saxon world, while the latter considers him to be a traitor to his country.

Ex-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is a product of the Texan middle class. He and his family worked for the US Scouts, of whom he became the National President (2010-12). Culturally close to England, he did not hesitate, when he became President of the mega-multinational Exxon-Mobil (2006-16), not only to wage a politically correct campaign favouring the acceptance of young gays into the Scouts, but also to recruit mercenaries in British Guiana. He is said to be a member of the Pilgrims Society, the most prestigious of Anglo-US clubs, presided by Queen Elizabeth II, a number of whose members were part of the Obama administration.

During his functions as Secretary of State, the quality of his education provided a bond for Donald Trump, considered by US high society to be a buffoon. He was in disagreement with his President on three major subjects which allow us to define the ideology of the conspirators - Like London and the US deep state, he thought it would be useful to diabolise Russia in order to consolidate the power of the Anglo-Saxons in the Western camp ; Like London, he thought that in order to maintain Western colonialism in the Middle East, it was necessary to favour Iranian President Cheikh Rohani against the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Khamenei. He therefore supported the 5+1 agreement. Like the US deep state, he considered that the swing of North Korea towards the United States should remain secret, and be used to justify a military deployment which would be directed in reality against the People’s Repubic of China. He was therefore in favour of official talks with Pyongyang, but opposed to a meeting between the two heads of state.

While Washington was still in shock, Theresa May spoke once again before the House of Commons to develop her accusation, while all around the world, British diplomats spoke to numerous inter-governmental organisations in order to broadcast the message. Responding to the Prime Minister, Blairist deputy Chris Leslie qualified Russia as a rogue state and demanded its suspension from the UN Security Council. Theresa May agreed to examine the question, but stressed that the outcome could only be decided by the General Assembly in order to avoid the Russian veto.

The North Atlantic Council (NATO) met in Brussels at the request of the United Kingdom. The 29 member states drew a link between the use of chemical weapons in Syria and the attack in Salisbury. They then decided that Russia was « probably » responsible for these two events.

Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO, and permanent representative for the United Kingdom to the North Atlantic Council Sarah MacIntosh. She is the ex-Director of Defence and Intelligence questions to the British Minister for Foreign Affairs, a post that she handed on to Jonathan Allen, current chargé d’affaires at the UNO.

In New York, the permanent representative of Russia, Vasily Nebenzya, proposed to the members of the Security Council that they adopt a declaration attesting to their common will to shed light on the attack in Salisbury and handing over the enquiry to the OPCW in the respect of international procedures. But the United Kingdom refused any text which did not contain the expression that Russia was « probably responsible » for the attack.

During the public debate which followed, UK chargé d’affaire Jonathan Allen represented his country. He is an agent of MI6 who created the British War Propaganda Service and gives active support to the jihadists in Syria. He declared – « Russia has already interfered in the affairs of other countries, Russia has already violated international law in Ukraine, Russia has comtempt for civilian life, as witnessed by the attack on a commercial aircraft over Ukraine by Russian mercenaries, Russia protects the use of chemical weapons by Assad (…) The Russian state is responsible for this attempted murder ». The permanent representative for France, François Delattre, who, by virtue of a derogation by President Sarkozy, was trained at the US State Department, noted that his country had launched an initiative to end the impunity of those who use chemical weapons. He implied that the initiative, originally directed at Syria, could also be turned against Russia.

Russian ambassador Vasily Nebenzya pointed out that the session had been convened at London’s request, but that it is public at Moscow’s request. He observed that the United Kingdom is violating international law by treating this subject at the Security Council while keeping the OPCW out of its enquiry. He noted that if London had been able to identify the « Novotchik », it’s because it has the formula and can therefore make its own. He noted Russia’s desire to collaborate with the OPCW in the respect for international procedures.

The United Kingdom published a common declaration which had been cosigned the night before by France and Germany, as well as Rex Tillerson, who at that moment was still US Secretary of State. The text reiterated British suspicions. It denounced the use of « a neurotoxic agent of military quality, and of a type developed by Russia », and affirmed that it was « highly probable that Russia is responsible for the attack ».

The Washington Post published an op-ed piece by Boris Johnson, while the US Secretary of the Treasury, Steven Mnuchin, established new sanctions against Russia. These are not connected to the current affair, but to allegations of interference in US public life. The decree nonetheless mentions the attack in Salisbury as proof of the underhand methods of Russia.

Throughout its long history, England has never hesitated to lie and betray its oath in order to defend its interests. This is how it earned its French nickname of « perfide Albion » (after the Latin name for England)

British Secretary for Defence, the young Gavin Williamson, declared that after the expulsion of its diplomats, Russia should « shut up and go away » (sic). This is the first time since the end of the Second World War that a representative of a permanent member state of the Security Council has employed such a vocabulary in the face of another member of the Council. Sergueï Lavrov commented – « He’s a charming young man. He must want to ensure his place in History, by making shock declarations [...] Perhaps he lacks education ».

In the space of four days, the United Kingdom and its allies have laid the premises of a new division of the world, a Cold War.

However, Syria is not Iraq and the UNO is not the G8 (from which Russia has been excluded because of its adhesion to Crimea and its support of Syria). The United States are not going to destroy Damascus, and Russia will not be excluded from the Security Council. After having resigned from the European Union, then having refused to sign the Chinese declaration about the Silk Road, the United Kingdom thought to improve its stature by eliminating a competitor. By this piece of dirty work, it imagined that it would acquire a new dimension and become the « Global Britain » announced by Madame May. But it is destroying its own credibility.

(Republished from VoltaireNet by permission of author or representative)

The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874"On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. ...Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. ... The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. ...Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. ...We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”-- Oded Yinon plan' fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, "ambassadors," "lords," and "elected leaders of the free world..." -- None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels' cowardice and lies.

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Yesterday were the Dutch municipal elections.
The losers were the governing parties at national level.
Winners the local parties.
Trust in ‘elite’ politicians is diminishing further.

We yesterday also had our last referendum, the referendum law no longer exists.
As with all previous referenda, we voted against government policy, this time the law that gives secret services the legal right to spy on anyone.

As with all referenda, our vote will not have any effect, as when in 2005 we voted against the EU, and two years ago against the EU Ukraine association treaty.

Nevertheless, democracy functions.
As I wrote, local parties are the winners, winners also are national anti establishment parties, despite the demonising of these populists, that represent the opinions of a significant portion of the population.

As Belgium and Germany, governing our country becomes more and more difficult.
The country seems to be more and more divided between those who trust the government, and those with deep distrust.

Dutch voters behaved badly, so the toys are taken away. No more 'referanda' for you.

The disintegration will accelerate: more new faces, local parties, rebellion parties. And, of course, more clowns (hello Boris, now climb down from that tree).

Brussels is having urgent off-sites with think-tank geniuses how to stop it. So far they have come up with: more 'media control' (propaganda), more outreach, drastic new restrictions ('you like the old Europe? - xenophobe!, no travel for you'), and a circular management refresh, Macronism.

One thing I doubt the globo-liberal EU obsessives will ever do is to actually listen to the 'misguided' people. It has been preliminary decided to simply label any resistance as 'Russian subversion'. That buys some time, but they have no long term solutions, or even coherent ideas. This will get more entertaining. Boris J-man might actually climb up that tree before this is over...

Meyssan has often voiced the opinion that Trump & Putin have an understanding. We can’t, and will probably never know the truth of this opinion, but when one watches their body language and behaviour together such as was openly displayed at the APEC summit in Vietnam, one sees that they are very comfortable with each other.

One of the things that the Kremlin understands is that the US, and specifically its foreign policy determinations, is rat’s nest of various vested and/or rogue interests pulling in their various directions, and that by virtue of Washington’s chaotic politics much of what seems to be foreign policy is executed without the knowledge, much less control of the President, or even the State & Defence Departments.

The reality is that both Russia and China want (for different reasons) a healthy USA to sit at a newly constituted round table of Great Powers. There are factions within the US that agree with them, and that the road to Global Hegemony is a dead end. Trump’s election has opened a window of opportunity to allow the US to de-throttle, and even back away from that goal should those factions gain the upper hand. From what we see, they are making progress.

There’s still a political battle royal ahead for them, but there’s also factions within the US’ allies whose fortunes will take a turn for the worse should they succeed. They will naturally ally with those in the US who’s goal is Empire. As it is, with current developments in DC, and the Syrian gambit backfiring, said factions are panicking and it should surprise no-one to see ill-conceived and executed attempts to reverse their fortunes.

I think the Skripal case is a textbook example of just that kind of thing happening. A farcical caricature of a false flag operation gone awry, and no plausible narrative in sight.

That the once great UK is reduced to 3 blind mice standing in for Ministers of what are normally a nation’s 3 most powerful ministries shows just how far from its moorings the West has drifted. One is almost embarrassed for them as they thrash around.

Saker posted a video on his site of a meeting called by the Kremlin of all ambassadors. It’s astonishing, frankly.

Meyssan has often voiced the opinion that Trump & Putin have an understanding. We can't, and will probably never know the truth of this opinion, but when one watches their body language and behaviour together such as was openly displayed at the APEC summit in Vietnam, one sees that they are very comfortable with each other.

One of the things that the Kremlin understands is that the US, and specifically its foreign policy determinations, is rat's nest of various vested and/or rogue interests pulling in their various directions, and that by virtue of Washington's chaotic politics much of what seems to be foreign policy is executed without the knowledge, much less control of the President, or even the State & Defence Departments.

The reality is that both Russia and China want (for different reasons) a healthy USA to sit at a newly constituted round table of Great Powers. There are factions within the US that agree with them, and that the road to Global Hegemony is a dead end. Trump's election has opened a window of opportunity to allow the US to de-throttle, and even back away from that goal should those factions gain the upper hand. From what we see, they are making progress.

There's still a political battle royal ahead for them, but there's also factions within the US' allies whose fortunes will take a turn for the worse should they succeed. They will naturally ally with those in the US who's goal is Empire. As it is, with current developments in DC, and the Syrian gambit backfiring, said factions are panicking and it should surprise no-one to see ill-conceived and executed attempts to reverse their fortunes.

I think the Skripal case is a textbook example of just that kind of thing happening. A farcical caricature of a false flag operation gone awry, and no plausible narrative in sight.

That the once great UK is reduced to 3 blind mice standing in for Ministers of what are normally a nation's 3 most powerful ministries shows just how far from its moorings the West has drifted. One is almost embarrassed for them as they thrash around.

Saker posted a video on his site of a meeting called by the Kremlin of all ambassadors. It's astonishing, frankly.
https://youtu.be/dKyR0KZn2Xc

I’d never heard of the author. As I read the first few pars I thought he might be mad. What’s his record? What are his qualifications to be taken seriously on anything?

Look him up if you've never hear of him. His bio isn't a secret and his very large, multilingual webzine is well known. He's even got a Wikipedia page, and has been writing quite prominently since forevvah.

How many knows that Obama, the son of Africa, went to the WH with a regime change feather already in his cap, ?

Obama's Kenya caper.....

During the parliamentary elections of December 2007, a survey funded by USAID announces the victory of Odinga. On election day, John McCain announced that President Kibaki rigged the election in favor of his party and that in fact the opposition led by Odinga had won.

The NSA, in conjunction with local phone operators, sent anonymous text messages to the population.

In areas populated by the Luo (Odinga’s ethnic group), they read "Dear Kenyans, the Kikuyu have stolen our children’s future... We must treat them in the only way that they understand... with violence."

In areas populated by Kikuyu, they read: "The blood of any innocent Kikuyu will be paid. We will slaughter them right to the heart of the capital. For Justice, establish a list of Luos that you know. We will send you the phone numbers to call with such information."

Within days, this peaceful country sank into sectarian violence. The riots caused over 1 000 deaths and 300 000 displaced. 500 000 jobs were lost.

Madeleine Albright came back. She offered to mediate between President Kibaki and the opposition trying to overthrow him. With finesse, she stepped aside and placed in the spotlight the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights. The board of this respected NGO was newly chaired by the former Prime Minister of Norway, Thorbjørn Jagland.

Breaking with the Center’s traditional impartiality, he sent two mediators on site, whose expenses were entirely footed by Madeleine Albright’s NDI (that is to say ultimately out of the U.S. Department of State’s budget): another former Norwegian Prime Minister, Kjell Magne Bondevik, and former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan (the Ghanaian is very much on the scene in Scandinavian states since he married the niece of Raoul Wallenberg). Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China.Small gifts between friends

Mr. Meyssan wrote the first book,in 2002, to assert that 9/11 was a False Flag attack by what we now call the 'Deep State".

9/11 The Big Lie came out in English in 2003.

I believe that Meyssan is living in exile from France in Syria. He was one of the first reporters to show that the attacks upon Assad and Syria were being run by foreign intelligence operatives and their terrorist minions like ISIS.

I am glad that Mr. Unz has run this very important article on the present intrigue.

He's gotten some of the very big questions right through the years: 9/11, the Syrian War, Russian intervention in Syria. Of course, like anybody else in the business, he's occasionally made some predictions that have failed to materialize, and often advanced some contentions that are hard to prove one way or the other. But the important thing is that he's an independent thinker who relies on his own reasoning, evidence and sources. He's not just some hack sitting in a newsroom somewhere copying everybody else. He's very pro-Syrian and pro-Iranian (I believe he's Iranian by descent, if I'm not mistaken), but he's very open about his bias, so you can judge for yourself. He runs the voltairenet.org website. Take a look ...

Meyssan has often voiced the opinion that Trump & Putin have an understanding. We can't, and will probably never know the truth of this opinion, but when one watches their body language and behaviour together such as was openly displayed at the APEC summit in Vietnam, one sees that they are very comfortable with each other.

One of the things that the Kremlin understands is that the US, and specifically its foreign policy determinations, is rat's nest of various vested and/or rogue interests pulling in their various directions, and that by virtue of Washington's chaotic politics much of what seems to be foreign policy is executed without the knowledge, much less control of the President, or even the State & Defence Departments.

The reality is that both Russia and China want (for different reasons) a healthy USA to sit at a newly constituted round table of Great Powers. There are factions within the US that agree with them, and that the road to Global Hegemony is a dead end. Trump's election has opened a window of opportunity to allow the US to de-throttle, and even back away from that goal should those factions gain the upper hand. From what we see, they are making progress.

There's still a political battle royal ahead for them, but there's also factions within the US' allies whose fortunes will take a turn for the worse should they succeed. They will naturally ally with those in the US who's goal is Empire. As it is, with current developments in DC, and the Syrian gambit backfiring, said factions are panicking and it should surprise no-one to see ill-conceived and executed attempts to reverse their fortunes.

I think the Skripal case is a textbook example of just that kind of thing happening. A farcical caricature of a false flag operation gone awry, and no plausible narrative in sight.

That the once great UK is reduced to 3 blind mice standing in for Ministers of what are normally a nation's 3 most powerful ministries shows just how far from its moorings the West has drifted. One is almost embarrassed for them as they thrash around.

Saker posted a video on his site of a meeting called by the Kremlin of all ambassadors. It's astonishing, frankly.
https://youtu.be/dKyR0KZn2Xc

Suggesting image: the ship Britannia cutting its moorings and drifting aimlessly, no longer ruling the waves.

I'd never heard of the author. As I read the first few pars I thought he might be mad. What's his record? What are his qualifications to be taken seriously on anything?

Look him up if you’ve never hear of him. His bio isn’t a secret and his very large, multilingual webzine is well known. He’s even got a Wikipedia page, and has been writing quite prominently since forevvah.

Cold War 2.0 started
during the Bush years.
when NATO expanded and USA pulled out of Ballistic missile treaty.

The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874
“On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. …
Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.
Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. … The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. …
Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. …
We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”
– Oded Yinon plan’ fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, “ambassadors,” “lords,” and “elected leaders of the free world…” — None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels’ cowardice and lies.

“The Day, a news website that produces short articles about current affairs meant to be used as teaching aids in British schools, has offered students two alternatives to believe about Vladimir Putin: he is either Europe’s “most dangerous leader since Hitler,” or a puffed up figure attacking other nations out of weakness.”
– Was it a Friend of Israel that has concocted the definitions?
“Russian ambassador Alexander Yakovenko has held a press conference in London, denying the Kremlin was involved in the attempted murder of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia using military-grade nerve agent.
“Britain has without any evidence blamed Russia for poisoning three people and continues to refuse to cooperate,” he said.
The UK authorities are violating Vienna Convention by not giving Russia access to Skripals, because Skripal has dual citizenship (the UK and Russia), Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko said.
The Russian embassy has immediately requested details and materials of the case, the envoy stated.
While 10 days have passed, Moscow has received no response, while London has refused to pass samples of the poisonous substance allegedly used to attack Skripal.
Then Yakovenko turned a little darker, seemingly indicating concerns that this was nothing but a false-flag operation… (via SputnikNews)
The envoy called for checking how could British experts find out the exact type of the nerve gas used to poison Skripal. [Good question!]
Commenting on the death of former top manager of Russian Aeroflot airline Nikolai Glushkov, the ambassador stated that “we cannot take Britain’s words on trust.”
Alexander Yakovenko said that Britain has provided no proof of Russia’s alleged involvement in the nerve agent attack.
He suggested that the samples of the so-called Novichok nerve gas could have already been in possession of a laboratory, which is located just miles away from Salisbury.
“We have been refused consular access to our Russian citizen Yulia Skripal,” Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko said.
The UK is ignoring requests on case of Russian businessman Glushkov who died in London, ambassador stated.
Russian experts puzzled how UK managed to determine type of nerve gas in Skripal case, in days, but not weeks or months.
The UK has a long record of misdoings, he said, including the support of coup in Ukraine and the invasion of Iraq.”
– This is like talking to overweight alcoholics and drug users that have lost any sense of dignity.
Boris Johnson [the self-proclaimed “passionate Zionist”) compared Russia’s hosting of this year’s World Cup to the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany. Russians respond: “Nobody has the right to insult the Russian people, who defeated the Nazis.”
But the Friends of Israel are new Nazis, see ziocons’ collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. Boris Johnson needs to infrom himslef: https://richardedmondson.net/2014/04/27/christian-zionists-neo-nazis-jewish-banderas-a-ukrainian-mazel-tov/ “Christian Zionists, Neo-Nazis, & Jewish Banderas: A Ukrainian Mazel Tov?” “

“It seems that there is a significant effort by the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Germany to provoke a military confrontation with Moscow. How else are we able to interpret threats from Macron to strike Damascus, together with his ominous advice to foreign journalists not to go to Damascus in the coming days and, for those already there, to leave the capital immediately? There has even been chatter within diplomatic circles that suggest that UN personnel are leaving Damascus. This could be psychological warfare, or it could be a prelude to war. With the stakes so high, we cannot afford to ignore any detail, even if it may be disinformation. The American attack seems imminent, with mounting signs of movements of American and Russian warships in the Mediterranean in attack formation.
Russian military representatives have reiterated that in the event of an attack, they will respond by hitting both the missiles launched as well as the ships from which the missiles were launched. Things are getting pretty dicey, and the risk of a direct confrontation between the United States and the Russian Federation are rising with every passing hour. The transfer of numerous US aircraft from Incirlik, Turkey, to Al-Azrak, Jordan, is another indication of preparations for an attack, since the forces moved to Jordan are close to the Al-Tanf base. The proposed strategy could involve an assault on the city of Daraa, for the purposes of securing the borders between Syria and Jordan and Syria and Israel.
The warnings raised by Lavrov and Gerasimov appear unprecedented, given that they detail a plan already set in course, evidently approved at the highest levels and aimed at provoking and justifying an attack on Syria; and attack that would encompass the Russian forces in Syria. ”
— Ziocons want their promised land by any means.

The Zionists control Britain and the U.S. and are planning to start WWIII using Syria and Iran as the precursor and nothing is going to stop this Zionist drive for a Zionist NWO no matter what the cost in lives or money, these satanic bastards are bound and determined to have a war with Russia and so it shall be done.

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war in and so they might, but what will be left, by the way these bases are known as DUMBs, and are connected by a tunnel system through out the U.S. and Britain, if anyone doubts this , do some research , it is true.

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war

I always wonder what the bastards intend to breathe a year after the nukes fall. They undoubtedly have air tanks in their bunkers, but that can't last for long. So what do they intend to breathe, some radioactive air?

What's the author's record? Why should he be taken seriously? Any qualifications?

Mr. Meyssan wrote the first book,in 2002, to assert that 9/11 was a False Flag attack by what we now call the ‘Deep State”.

9/11 The Big Lie came out in English in 2003.

I believe that Meyssan is living in exile from France in Syria. He was one of the first reporters to show that the attacks upon Assad and Syria were being run by foreign intelligence operatives and their terrorist minions like ISIS.

I am glad that Mr. Unz has run this very important article on the present intrigue.

This excellent article is why I visit this site. Doing the work that the Jewstream media refuses to do. I knew “something was rotten in Denmark”! It is very, very good that the world has leaders such as our great President Trump and powerful (take no bull) Putin. As far as Merkel and May go the sooner the door hits them on the Ass the better.

Hilarious nonsense! Thierry Meyssan is a specialist in conspiracy theories and could be called a “9/11 negationist”. One can assume that, in his eyes, the Salisbury attack, regardless of who might have carried it out, has not worked to Putin’s advantage.

Yesterday were the Dutch municipal elections.
The losers were the governing parties at national level.
Winners the local parties.
Trust in 'elite' politicians is diminishing further.

We yesterday also had our last referendum, the referendum law no longer exists.
As with all previous referenda, we voted against government policy, this time the law that gives secret services the legal right to spy on anyone.

As with all referenda, our vote will not have any effect, as when in 2005 we voted against the EU, and two years ago against the EU Ukraine association treaty.

Nevertheless, democracy functions.
As I wrote, local parties are the winners, winners also are national anti establishment parties, despite the demonising of these populists, that represent the opinions of a significant portion of the population.

As Belgium and Germany, governing our country becomes more and more difficult.
The country seems to be more and more divided between those who trust the government, and those with deep distrust.

Dutch voters behaved badly, so the toys are taken away. No more ‘referanda’ for you.

The disintegration will accelerate: more new faces, local parties, rebellion parties. And, of course, more clowns (hello Boris, now climb down from that tree).

Brussels is having urgent off-sites with think-tank geniuses how to stop it. So far they have come up with: more ‘media control’ (propaganda), more outreach, drastic new restrictions (‘you like the old Europe? – xenophobe!, no travel for you’), and a circular management refresh, Macronism.

One thing I doubt the globo-liberal EU obsessives will ever do is to actually listen to the ‘misguided’ people. It has been preliminary decided to simply label any resistance as ‘Russian subversion‘. That buys some time, but they have no long term solutions, or even coherent ideas. This will get more entertaining. Boris J-man might actually climb up that tree before this is over…

The main Brussels' battle cry is 'populism'.
In my opinion, populism is simply opposing political mainstream.
But this mainstream is disintegrating, Hollande abolished the French socialist party, Parti Socialiste.

In Germany Schulz, former EU top man, SPD member, the Socialist Party Germany, even had to step down as chairman in order to make SPD members agree with the SPD coalition with Merkel's CDU.
Schulz obviously left his overpaid Brussels job in order to become chancellor.

But also Merkel policies are breaking down.
Her minister of the Interior, police, border control, immigration, naturalisation, granting asylum, Seehofer, states that he will reinstate border controls, as the EU does nothing.
Polls show that 76% of Germans agree with him.
What most Germans do not know is that oral instructions were given in Merkel's former chancellor period to customs and border police, not to stop any immigrant at the borders.

Merkel and Seehofer now disagree on Islam, Merkel 'the Islam belongs to Germany', Seehofer 'the Islam is in Germany'.
But in how far the German people and culture can be saved in the long run one wonders.
Demographic calsulations show that with present differences in birth rates in 30 to 40 years time 30 to 40% of the Germans will be Muslims.
As Merkel said 'they're here already'.
What Merkel's objectives are or were, she if often compared to the sfinx.
In any case Mutti, mom, cannot last much longer.

E European countries reject Muslim immigrants.
However, after the Muslim immigrants have been naturalised, under present EU rules, they can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away.
If they want to settle in hostile communities is the question.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-22/russian-ambassador-questions-uk-involvement-nerve-attack-blasts-johnsons-putin"The Day, a news website that produces short articles about current affairs meant to be used as teaching aids in British schools, has offered students two alternatives to believe about Vladimir Putin: he is either Europe’s “most dangerous leader since Hitler,” or a puffed up figure attacking other nations out of weakness."-- Was it a Friend of Israel that has concocted the definitions? "Russian ambassador Alexander Yakovenko has held a press conference in London, denying the Kremlin was involved in the attempted murder of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia using military-grade nerve agent. "Britain has without any evidence blamed Russia for poisoning three people and continues to refuse to cooperate," he said. The UK authorities are violating Vienna Convention by not giving Russia access to Skripals, because Skripal has dual citizenship (the UK and Russia), Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko said.The Russian embassy has immediately requested details and materials of the case, the envoy stated.While 10 days have passed, Moscow has received no response, while London has refused to pass samples of the poisonous substance allegedly used to attack Skripal.Then Yakovenko turned a little darker, seemingly indicating concerns that this was nothing but a false-flag operation... (via SputnikNews)The envoy called for checking how could British experts find out the exact type of the nerve gas used to poison Skripal. [Good question!]Commenting on the death of former top manager of Russian Aeroflot airline Nikolai Glushkov, the ambassador stated that "we cannot take Britain's words on trust."Alexander Yakovenko said that Britain has provided no proof of Russia's alleged involvement in the nerve agent attack.He suggested that the samples of the so-called Novichok nerve gas could have already been in possession of a laboratory, which is located just miles away from Salisbury."We have been refused consular access to our Russian citizen Yulia Skripal," Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko said.The UK is ignoring requests on case of Russian businessman Glushkov who died in London, ambassador stated.Russian experts puzzled how UK managed to determine type of nerve gas in Skripal case, in days, but not weeks or months.The UK has a long record of misdoings, he said, including the support of coup in Ukraine and the invasion of Iraq."-- This is like talking to overweight alcoholics and drug users that have lost any sense of dignity. Boris Johnson [the self-proclaimed "passionate Zionist") compared Russia's hosting of this year's World Cup to the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany. Russians respond: "Nobody has the right to insult the Russian people, who defeated the Nazis." But the Friends of Israel are new Nazis, see ziocons' collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. Boris Johnson needs to infrom himslef: https://richardedmondson.net/2014/04/27/christian-zionists-neo-nazis-jewish-banderas-a-ukrainian-mazel-tov/ "Christian Zionists, Neo-Nazis, & Jewish Banderas: A Ukrainian Mazel Tov?" "

That article over at Edmonson’s place is a piece of junk. There was no “coup” in Ukraine. That was simply Putinist propaganda.

Having said that, I don’t know that is possible to determine what agent was used to poison the Skripals.

Of course it was a coup, though not a South American style with colonels in charge. It was brought about in the first instance by American meddling, with the obligatory tidal wave of cash in the cover of so called Orange Revolutions and aided by the neo-Nazi faction among the Ukrainians. However fragile there was a constitutional order in the Ukraine, which held the Ukrainian and Russian speaking peoples of the Ukraine together. But the Westerners held the carrots of a Western lifestyle, which the Russians could not match. The bloodshed in that part of the world was instigated by the usual cabal of troublemakers. Putin was inclined to see the Ukrainians more as misguided Russians rather than anything else.

There is structural Globalist government and all participants as Theresa May are only puppets.
All western leaderships are only participants. So far only Trump is the one who is resisting.
The orders are coming from Rothschild. He ordered now that Russia must be destroyed or at least neutralized. I am convinced that Russia’s government is fully aware of what is going on.
Just a while ago Russia commissioned three nuclear armed submarines.
Not long time ago Putin ordered nuclear drill over all country.
I would guess that Russia already a while ago is on war preparation mode.
Looks like the west lost its mind.
Concerning economy Britain is in trouble. French were strongly opposing Britain to join EU.
That was because England is the main competitor for French food exports.
One thing from this will be good. Barb be qui season is coming and beef will be now cheep.

That article over at Edmonson's place is a piece of junk. There was no "coup" in Ukraine. That was simply Putinist propaganda.

Having said that, I don't know that is possible to determine what agent was used to poison the Skripals.

Of course it was a coup, though not a South American style with colonels in charge. It was brought about in the first instance by American meddling, with the obligatory tidal wave of cash in the cover of so called Orange Revolutions and aided by the neo-Nazi faction among the Ukrainians. However fragile there was a constitutional order in the Ukraine, which held the Ukrainian and Russian speaking peoples of the Ukraine together. But the Westerners held the carrots of a Western lifestyle, which the Russians could not match. The bloodshed in that part of the world was instigated by the usual cabal of troublemakers. Putin was inclined to see the Ukrainians more as misguided Russians rather than anything else.

Mr. Meyssan wrote the first book,in 2002, to assert that 9/11 was a False Flag attack by what we now call the 'Deep State".

9/11 The Big Lie came out in English in 2003.

I believe that Meyssan is living in exile from France in Syria. He was one of the first reporters to show that the attacks upon Assad and Syria were being run by foreign intelligence operatives and their terrorist minions like ISIS.

I am glad that Mr. Unz has run this very important article on the present intrigue.

Thank you for the information. It doesn’t make him sound like a person who is well placed to make the claims to knowledge he has about what went on in England.

Dutch voters behaved badly, so the toys are taken away. No more 'referanda' for you.

The disintegration will accelerate: more new faces, local parties, rebellion parties. And, of course, more clowns (hello Boris, now climb down from that tree).

Brussels is having urgent off-sites with think-tank geniuses how to stop it. So far they have come up with: more 'media control' (propaganda), more outreach, drastic new restrictions ('you like the old Europe? - xenophobe!, no travel for you'), and a circular management refresh, Macronism.

One thing I doubt the globo-liberal EU obsessives will ever do is to actually listen to the 'misguided' people. It has been preliminary decided to simply label any resistance as 'Russian subversion'. That buys some time, but they have no long term solutions, or even coherent ideas. This will get more entertaining. Boris J-man might actually climb up that tree before this is over...

The main Brussels’ battle cry is ‘populism’.
In my opinion, populism is simply opposing political mainstream.
But this mainstream is disintegrating, Hollande abolished the French socialist party, Parti Socialiste.

In Germany Schulz, former EU top man, SPD member, the Socialist Party Germany, even had to step down as chairman in order to make SPD members agree with the SPD coalition with Merkel’s CDU.
Schulz obviously left his overpaid Brussels job in order to become chancellor.

But also Merkel policies are breaking down.
Her minister of the Interior, police, border control, immigration, naturalisation, granting asylum, Seehofer, states that he will reinstate border controls, as the EU does nothing.
Polls show that 76% of Germans agree with him.
What most Germans do not know is that oral instructions were given in Merkel’s former chancellor period to customs and border police, not to stop any immigrant at the borders.

Merkel and Seehofer now disagree on Islam, Merkel ‘the Islam belongs to Germany’, Seehofer ‘the Islam is in Germany’.
But in how far the German people and culture can be saved in the long run one wonders.
Demographic calsulations show that with present differences in birth rates in 30 to 40 years time 30 to 40% of the Germans will be Muslims.
As Merkel said ‘they’re here already’.
What Merkel’s objectives are or were, she if often compared to the sfinx.
In any case Mutti, mom, cannot last much longer.

E European countries reject Muslim immigrants.
However, after the Muslim immigrants have been naturalised, under present EU rules, they can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away.
If they want to settle in hostile communities is the question.

under present EU rules, naturalised migrants can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away. If they want to settle in hostile communities ...

That's the crux of the matter. It is coming, it is unsolvable and it will possibly break up EU. A few years back there wasn't today's level of polarisation. After 2015 Merkel march, the issue has become very visible. I don't see how the attitudes in the east could change. Any attempt to move Third Worlders there will trigger a political crisis.

If the 'naturalised' come they won't be treated as EU citizens. And the sh..t will hit the fan. The 'hostility' doesn't prevent people from coming - there has been plenty of hostility in the West. And they often cherish the anti-whitey situations, even try to escalate them. It is not sustainable, Western Europe is heading towards 15-20% Third World soon. In the east it is still under 0.2%. Who thought this would be a good idea to let all those millions in?

There is structural Globalist government and all participants as Theresa May are only puppets.
All western leaderships are only participants. So far only Trump is the one who is resisting.
The orders are coming from Rothschild. He ordered now that Russia must be destroyed or at least neutralized. I am convinced that Russia's government is fully aware of what is going on.
Just a while ago Russia commissioned three nuclear armed submarines.
Not long time ago Putin ordered nuclear drill over all country.
I would guess that Russia already a while ago is on war preparation mode.
Looks like the west lost its mind.
Concerning economy Britain is in trouble. French were strongly opposing Britain to join EU.
That was because England is the main competitor for French food exports.
One thing from this will be good. Barb be qui season is coming and beef will be now cheep.

” Looks like the west lost its mind. ”
Rothschild, Bilderberg, is not the west, nor is AIPAC and AEI.
However, former Shell CEO Van der Veer is chairman of a NATO strategic advisory committee.

The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874"On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. ...Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. ... The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. ...Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. ...We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”-- Oded Yinon plan' fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, "ambassadors," "lords," and "elected leaders of the free world..." -- None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels' cowardice and lies.

Does that all depend on the premise that the 9/11 attacks were not an Al Qaeda operation? Tes or No will do thank you.

Now go back and read the article and then re-assess what A436 said, Wally.

It doesn’t make him sound like a person who is well placed to make the claims to knowledge he has about what went on in England.

He's talking about whether Thierry Meyssan would really have access to the people and information that could confirm this story of conspiracy and its uncovering.

The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.

Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council.

However, the Syrian and Russian Intelligence Services got wind of what was being plotted. They realised that the US agents in the Ghouta who were preparing an attack against the Ghouta were not working for the Pentagon, but for another US agency.

In Damascus, the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fayçal Miqdad, set up an emergency Press conference for 10 March, in order to alert his fellow citizens. From its own side, Moscow had first of all tried to contact Washington via the diplomatic channels. But aware that the US ambassador, Jon Huntsman Jr, is the director of Caterpillar, the company which had supplied tunneling materials to the jihadists so that they could build their fortifications, Moscow decided to bypass the usual diplomatic channels.

No, you don't need to be IN England. But you do need to have at least a small record of qualifications and credibility to get readers to move past those first paragraphs which look like the script of a movie starring Jennifer Lawrence as an FSB triple-agent.

A very important piece of information that connects Skripal affair with the UK chemical warfare in Syria. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/03/open-thread-23-march-2018.html#comments
Comment section (22):
“…here is (at least) one connecting element between the “moderate Takfiris” in Syria and the Skripal incident…
Colonel (rtd) Hamish de Bretton-Gordon “is a former assistant director of Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance Land Forces with the Ministry of Defence. Before that de Bretton-Gordon was commanding officer of Britain’s Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) Regiment and Nato’s Rapid Reaction CBRN Battalion.”
He is a Tory, anti-Russian and the British press quotes him every day. He is essentially building the story.He was/is deeply involved in training the Takfiris in Syria in chemical warfare. Alleged evidence of Syrian chemical weapons was “smuggled out” with his help and he had it analyzed with the wished for result. He co-founded “Doctors Under Fire” which works along the White Helmets scam which was founded by another British military intelligence officer.
De Bretton-Gordon is also managing director CBRN of Avon Protection Systems, based in Melksham, Wiltshire and is making millions from selling CBRN equipment to the Pentagon and the British forces. (I bet that the gas masks the Takfiris have and the CBRN equipment the White Helmets show off come from this source.)
If there was coordination in staging a chemical attack in Salisbury (right next door to Porton Down to which de Bretton-Gordon surely still has the keys) and in Ghouta it will have been this man.”
“Doctors Under Fire and Hamish de Bretton Gordon unmasked” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqg34Bj4ZKY
“Hamish De Bretton Gordon discusses chemical weapons:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4c1KIR9mMI
Sounds like a propaganda to make a nice gesheft on CBRN equipment and to please the Friends of Israel.
Honesty and honor are not Bretton-Gordon’ thing: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43074956
“Syrian Gas Attack: The Kosher Nostra Moves on Putin:” https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/05/syrian-gas-attack-the-kosher-nostra-moves-on-putin/

One doesn't need to be IN England to make assessments of England's actions.

Now go back and read the article and then re-assess what A436 said, Wally.

It doesn’t make him sound like a person who is well placed to make the claims to knowledge he has about what went on in England.

He’s talking about whether Thierry Meyssan would really have access to the people and information that could confirm this story of conspiracy and its uncovering.

The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.

Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council.

However, the Syrian and Russian Intelligence Services got wind of what was being plotted. They realised that the US agents in the Ghouta who were preparing an attack against the Ghouta were not working for the Pentagon, but for another US agency.

In Damascus, the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fayçal Miqdad, set up an emergency Press conference for 10 March, in order to alert his fellow citizens. From its own side, Moscow had first of all tried to contact Washington via the diplomatic channels. But aware that the US ambassador, Jon Huntsman Jr, is the director of Caterpillar, the company which had supplied tunneling materials to the jihadists so that they could build their fortifications, Moscow decided to bypass the usual diplomatic channels.

No, you don’t need to be IN England. But you do need to have at least a small record of qualifications and credibility to get readers to move past those first paragraphs which look like the script of a movie starring Jennifer Lawrence as an FSB triple-agent.

IOW, only Zionist Jews have the "qualifications". That's what you are really all about.

The sources for debunking the fabricated attack are readily available on line.
Try it sometime.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=JUC0Wo2HOaKY0gKnor-ACw&q=false+salisbury+attack&oq=false+salisbury+attack&gs_l=psy-ab.3...29240.30538.0.32984.5.5.0.0.0.0.88.428.5.5.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.86...0i8i7i30k1.0.5tudk3Zgtwo

Thank you. I've noted yours as a calm considered voice of reason that reads the carefully chosen words before replying (and the dubious ones that inspired questioning comment). Sadly I think you'll tire of answering Wally, and no one could criticise you for giving up.

The only suggestions that the Russians were responsible for the incident come from exactly the same kinds of people who told us about Iraq’s WMD and the supposed Libyan humanitarian emergency. And yes, about supposed suicidal Syrian government uses of chemical weapons that are conveniently just big enough to provide their enemies with yet another big stick to beat them with, but not enough to give them any material advantage.

And there’s the additional evidence that some kind of False Flag attempt fell apart at Eastern Ghouta + Trump’s discovery that the Deep State was planning to take him by surprise (the immediate dismissal of Tillerson).

More like the author of this post has been through your sock drawer, found your hash stash, and smoked it all up. A BBC journalist went to the main Russian WW2 museum and to his astonishment he foundalong with a heroic picture montage, e the theme to 80's US TV series Dallas was played! The Spetznaz badge is the Batman-logo! Russians have the most fantastical ideas a la Rodion Raskolnikov.

We do not know the result of this internal enquiry, but President Trump acquired the conviction that his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, was implicated. The Secretary of State was immediately asked to interrupt his official journey in Africa and return to Washington.

The idea that Rex Tillerson decided to work with CIA handlers of head choppers against Pentagon to facilitate some false flag operation involving poison gas is somewhat questionable.

As disgusting neocon stooge as Tillerson was at his position, he is no Hillary Clinton.

Moreover, the alliance of Tillerson and Mattis in Trump WH is pretty well known. And they are also personal friends. So either Mattis was supportive ( or even a part of this false flag operation), or Thierry Meyssan is dead wrong.

Backstabbing Mattis would be rather strange behavior for Tillerson.

The other implied statement by Thierry Meyssan is that Pompeo was not informed about this operation and all those things were accomplished behind his back. Which is also not very probably, to say the least. I doubt that the State Department has its own special operation forces.

And if Pompeo was implicated, then how Trump can chose him as the successor of Tillerson.

Those considerations make the whole article rather questionable and highly speculative.

More like the author of this post has been through your sock drawer, found your hash stash, and smoked it all up. A BBC journalist went to the main Russian WW2 museum and to his astonishment he foundalong with a heroic picture montage, e the theme to 80′s US TV series Dallas was played! The Spetznaz badge is the Batman-logo! Russians have the most fantastical ideas a la Rodion Raskolnikov.

The ongoing story of the lying scoundrels and war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-frank-taylor-report-the-911-document-that-launched-us-natos-war-on-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/5632874"On the morning of 12 September 2001, NATO’s North Atlantic Council was summoned in Brussels. This was less than 24 hours after the events in USA. ...Lord Robertson, Secretary General of NATO, wrote a draft resolution invoking Article 5 in the Washington treaty – the famous ‘musketeer clause’ – as a consequence of the terror attacks: “The Council agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the Allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”There was a reservation. Article 5 would not be formally activated before “it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad”. Apparently, NATO had a suspect. But the forensic evidence was still pending, and hence also the formal invocation of Article 5.Formally, this evidence was provided by Frank Taylor, a diplomat with the title of Ambassador from the US State Department. ... The first bombs fell in Kabul on 7 October 2001 [the slaughter of civilians by the US/NATO had begun]. ...Article 5 of the Washington Treaty emphasises the right to self-defence and reads: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,….” That is, military action is forbidden in the absence of an armed provocation, and the legality of the attack on Afghanistan depends exclusively on the evidence presented in Frank Taylor’s report. But it was classified together with the minutes from the pertinent meetings. ...We are still at war seventeen years later. Five countries have been destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions displaced. Refugees are swarming the roads of Europe, trillions of dollars have been spent on weapons and mercenaries and our grandchildren have been shackled with endless debt.”-- Oded Yinon plan' fanatics, oilmen, banksters, MIC, "ambassadors," "lords," and "elected leaders of the free world..." -- None of the war criminals has been punished. Guess, their children and grandchildren will be paying for the scoundrels' cowardice and lies.

In reply to your lengthy posts:

All I can say is the Oded Yinon lunatics are madmen
and Boris Johnson with the Imperialist Torys are lunatics.

And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

Very true. Poland was the first Eastern European country which adopted neoliberal model and thus served to a certain extent as "photo model" of neoliberalism for the rest of Eastern Europe and xUSSR space. So standard of living did not drop too low. The country was somewhat supported by EU and by the USA.

Ukraine was royally raped economically in 1991-2000. Probably as bad as Russia, may be even worse.

In 2014 Ukrainians were lured by unrealistic dream of getting Western European standard of living as a gift for breaking with Russia. As well as the resentment toward kleptocrat Yanukovich (which actually was pretty typical neoliberal politician; not much worse then Poroshenko )

Now they start to understand that the EU will devour the corpse to the bones and they are stuck at the Central African level poverty of $2 a day or so (on average), but this is too late.

A very typical story, a very typical outcome. Neoliberalism is a cancer. As Russian prime minister quipped about economic rape of Russia by local and Western neoliberals in 1991-2000: "We strived to get the best [economic] outcome, but it turned out like we got even worse then average. As always." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Chernomyrdin )

So in a way they stepped on the same rake twice: once in 1991 and the second time in 2014. That's unforgivable.

Of course it was a coup, though not a South American style with colonels in charge. It was brought about in the first instance by American meddling, with the obligatory tidal wave of cash in the cover of so called Orange Revolutions and aided by the neo-Nazi faction among the Ukrainians. However fragile there was a constitutional order in the Ukraine, which held the Ukrainian and Russian speaking peoples of the Ukraine together. But the Westerners held the carrots of a Western lifestyle, which the Russians could not match. The bloodshed in that part of the world was instigated by the usual cabal of troublemakers. Putin was inclined to see the Ukrainians more as misguided Russians rather than anything else.

It was definitely a coup.

And I know the “Polish” American Brzezinski played a role, especially in the Orange Revolution.
So did many Neocons, Liberals (on both Republica and Democrat sides), etc.

His children also continue to play the role today. Strong connections to Yatsenyuk, Sachevelli, and others.

There were so many Westerners and money involved that you have to be nuts to deny it.

And what the West did in Latin America, with death squads, generals, torture was sad too.

Interesting detail about illegal British war propaganda in breach of ICCPR Article 20. Of particular note is the report of Pompeo’s role in the blame game for the failed provocation.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they’ve vanished up the USA’s asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

The determining geopolitical factor is Russia’s missile announcement. It re-established MAD, but that’s not all. It also created a capability for proportional response to the entire range of US force that effectively counters all US use and threat of force. There’s no more game of chicken. Russia can discipline the US with localized humiliation and global rout without recourse to mutual destruction.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they’ve vanished up the USA’s asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

Actually, Trident is specifically designed and implemented to be beyond US control.

Britain has literally become Orwell's Airstrip One.
He was right about the daily two minute hate (now upgraded to the 16 hour hate) currently directed at Russia, and of course the Telescreens surveillance State.

The main Brussels' battle cry is 'populism'.
In my opinion, populism is simply opposing political mainstream.
But this mainstream is disintegrating, Hollande abolished the French socialist party, Parti Socialiste.

In Germany Schulz, former EU top man, SPD member, the Socialist Party Germany, even had to step down as chairman in order to make SPD members agree with the SPD coalition with Merkel's CDU.
Schulz obviously left his overpaid Brussels job in order to become chancellor.

But also Merkel policies are breaking down.
Her minister of the Interior, police, border control, immigration, naturalisation, granting asylum, Seehofer, states that he will reinstate border controls, as the EU does nothing.
Polls show that 76% of Germans agree with him.
What most Germans do not know is that oral instructions were given in Merkel's former chancellor period to customs and border police, not to stop any immigrant at the borders.

Merkel and Seehofer now disagree on Islam, Merkel 'the Islam belongs to Germany', Seehofer 'the Islam is in Germany'.
But in how far the German people and culture can be saved in the long run one wonders.
Demographic calsulations show that with present differences in birth rates in 30 to 40 years time 30 to 40% of the Germans will be Muslims.
As Merkel said 'they're here already'.
What Merkel's objectives are or were, she if often compared to the sfinx.
In any case Mutti, mom, cannot last much longer.

E European countries reject Muslim immigrants.
However, after the Muslim immigrants have been naturalised, under present EU rules, they can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away.
If they want to settle in hostile communities is the question.

Merkel is a puppet. She has history of socialism. And continues to ally with Socialists.

Merkels faction CDU is more liberal
than Seehofer who probably belongs to Bavarian group.

I’m still catching up on this thread, so I don’t know if anyone else has brought up the following point. But just in case no one has yet, …

The Skripal poisoning is clearly a false flag, probably committed by the Brits themselves, as Russia obviously has nothing to gain by it. Maybe London’s being so loud about it because they are trying to drown out the fact that the UK is taking natural gas from Russia, after all the anti-Russian hatred pouring from Fleet Street. The embarrassment for the Brits — or at least some faction of the British — must be extremely acute.

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk "gee whiz did you know we're cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?" your politest description would be "silly" would it not?

BTW to anyone still cerebrating.... what would explain the light sentence Skripal was given in Russia. The answer which suggests itself most obviously is that, when caught, he demonstrated that he had given away nothing of real value. But maybe the sentence giver had in mind the swap and that giving him life might have raised some barrier???

What's the author's record? Why should he be taken seriously? Any qualifications?

He’s gotten some of the very big questions right through the years: 9/11, the Syrian War, Russian intervention in Syria. Of course, like anybody else in the business, he’s occasionally made some predictions that have failed to materialize, and often advanced some contentions that are hard to prove one way or the other. But the important thing is that he’s an independent thinker who relies on his own reasoning, evidence and sources. He’s not just some hack sitting in a newsroom somewhere copying everybody else. He’s very pro-Syrian and pro-Iranian (I believe he’s Iranian by descent, if I’m not mistaken), but he’s very open about his bias, so you can judge for yourself. He runs the voltairenet.org website. Take a look …

Thanks. I might use that clue you give about 9/11 to apply some tests. I don't want to waste my time with a Jonathan Revusky type who doesn't even provide useful reliable informarion (just one little story that intrigued I recall).

The Zionists control Britain and the U.S. and are planning to start WWIII using Syria and Iran as the precursor and nothing is going to stop this Zionist drive for a Zionist NWO no matter what the cost in lives or money, these satanic bastards are bound and determined to have a war with Russia and so it shall be done.

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war in and so they might, but what will be left, by the way these bases are known as DUMBs, and are connected by a tunnel system through out the U.S. and Britain, if anyone doubts this , do some research , it is true.

A Zionist nuclear war is on the horizon.

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war

I always wonder what the bastards intend to breathe a year after the nukes fall. They undoubtedly have air tanks in their bunkers, but that can’t last for long. So what do they intend to breathe, some radioactive air?

Google the underground base at the Denver airport, and this is just one of the many bases the elites intend to use in a nuclear war , these bastards are satanic and are hell bent on installing a Zionist one world government.

"The US special forces deliver 20 tons of chlorine gas to Al Qaeda terrorists in Syria order to execute a false flag for the purposes of blaming Damascus and Moscow."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-21/if-us-plans-terrorist-false-flag-chemical-attack-justify-bombing-syria-russia-says
"It seems that there is a significant effort by the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Germany to provoke a military confrontation with Moscow. How else are we able to interpret threats from Macron to strike Damascus, together with his ominous advice to foreign journalists not to go to Damascus in the coming days and, for those already there, to leave the capital immediately? There has even been chatter within diplomatic circles that suggest that UN personnel are leaving Damascus. This could be psychological warfare, or it could be a prelude to war. With the stakes so high, we cannot afford to ignore any detail, even if it may be disinformation. The American attack seems imminent, with mounting signs of movements of American and Russian warships in the Mediterranean in attack formation.
Russian military representatives have reiterated that in the event of an attack, they will respond by hitting both the missiles launched as well as the ships from which the missiles were launched. Things are getting pretty dicey, and the risk of a direct confrontation between the United States and the Russian Federation are rising with every passing hour. The transfer of numerous US aircraft from Incirlik, Turkey, to Al-Azrak, Jordan, is another indication of preparations for an attack, since the forces moved to Jordan are close to the Al-Tanf base. The proposed strategy could involve an assault on the city of Daraa, for the purposes of securing the borders between Syria and Jordan and Syria and Israel.
The warnings raised by Lavrov and Gerasimov appear unprecedented, given that they detail a plan already set in course, evidently approved at the highest levels and aimed at provoking and justifying an attack on Syria; and attack that would encompass the Russian forces in Syria. "
--- Ziocons want their promised land by any means.

Now go back and read the article and then re-assess what A436 said, Wally.

It doesn’t make him sound like a person who is well placed to make the claims to knowledge he has about what went on in England.

He's talking about whether Thierry Meyssan would really have access to the people and information that could confirm this story of conspiracy and its uncovering.

The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.

Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council.

However, the Syrian and Russian Intelligence Services got wind of what was being plotted. They realised that the US agents in the Ghouta who were preparing an attack against the Ghouta were not working for the Pentagon, but for another US agency.

In Damascus, the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fayçal Miqdad, set up an emergency Press conference for 10 March, in order to alert his fellow citizens. From its own side, Moscow had first of all tried to contact Washington via the diplomatic channels. But aware that the US ambassador, Jon Huntsman Jr, is the director of Caterpillar, the company which had supplied tunneling materials to the jihadists so that they could build their fortifications, Moscow decided to bypass the usual diplomatic channels.

No, you don't need to be IN England. But you do need to have at least a small record of qualifications and credibility to get readers to move past those first paragraphs which look like the script of a movie starring Jennifer Lawrence as an FSB triple-agent.

IOW, only Zionist Jews have the “qualifications”. That’s what you are really all about.

The sources for debunking the fabricated attack are readily available on line.
Try it sometime.

"Ignorant"of what? Or are you using "ignorant" with the working class usage that means you finf the person so labelled offensive? ("Peasant" is the sort of rhetorical flourish which suggests the latter).

BTW what are you not ignorant of? Anything you care to suggest on which your knowledge or ressoning might be worthy of respect?

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war

I always wonder what the bastards intend to breathe a year after the nukes fall. They undoubtedly have air tanks in their bunkers, but that can't last for long. So what do they intend to breathe, some radioactive air?

Google the underground base at the Denver airport, and this is just one of the many bases the elites intend to use in a nuclear war , these bastards are satanic and are hell bent on installing a Zionist one world government.

He's gotten some of the very big questions right through the years: 9/11, the Syrian War, Russian intervention in Syria. Of course, like anybody else in the business, he's occasionally made some predictions that have failed to materialize, and often advanced some contentions that are hard to prove one way or the other. But the important thing is that he's an independent thinker who relies on his own reasoning, evidence and sources. He's not just some hack sitting in a newsroom somewhere copying everybody else. He's very pro-Syrian and pro-Iranian (I believe he's Iranian by descent, if I'm not mistaken), but he's very open about his bias, so you can judge for yourself. He runs the voltairenet.org website. Take a look ...

Thanks. I might use that clue you give about 9/11 to apply some tests. I don’t want to waste my time with a Jonathan Revusky type who doesn’t even provide useful reliable informarion (just one little story that intrigued I recall).

Now go back and read the article and then re-assess what A436 said, Wally.

It doesn’t make him sound like a person who is well placed to make the claims to knowledge he has about what went on in England.

He's talking about whether Thierry Meyssan would really have access to the people and information that could confirm this story of conspiracy and its uncovering.

The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.

Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council.

However, the Syrian and Russian Intelligence Services got wind of what was being plotted. They realised that the US agents in the Ghouta who were preparing an attack against the Ghouta were not working for the Pentagon, but for another US agency.

In Damascus, the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fayçal Miqdad, set up an emergency Press conference for 10 March, in order to alert his fellow citizens. From its own side, Moscow had first of all tried to contact Washington via the diplomatic channels. But aware that the US ambassador, Jon Huntsman Jr, is the director of Caterpillar, the company which had supplied tunneling materials to the jihadists so that they could build their fortifications, Moscow decided to bypass the usual diplomatic channels.

No, you don't need to be IN England. But you do need to have at least a small record of qualifications and credibility to get readers to move past those first paragraphs which look like the script of a movie starring Jennifer Lawrence as an FSB triple-agent.

Thank you. I’ve noted yours as a calm considered voice of reason that reads the carefully chosen words before replying (and the dubious ones that inspired questioning comment). Sadly I think you’ll tire of answering Wally, and no one could criticise you for giving up.

It was your comment that prompted me to look into this author. Thank you. I share your concerns. There is a lot (as there is everywhere it seems these days) of opinion and conspiracy theory masquerading as “the obvious truth” here for no other reason than the UNZ Review considers itself outside the mainstream media. I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable.

My experience has been that virtually no events of this type, when viewed from history's perspective a year or three hence, are approached with anything like the importance or (ironically) the perceived clarity of today.

I tend to think people see what they believe, not the other way around.

Wally is an amusing character. I don’t know if he feels he can improve on his conversion methods or if that thing is working for him. I suppose maybe whatever he is doing is not working for him and he doesn’t realize it. None of my business.

“Ignorant”of what? Or are you using “ignorant” with the working class usage that means you finf the person so labelled offensive? (“Peasant” is the sort of rhetorical flourish which suggests the latter).

BTW what are you not ignorant of? Anything you care to suggest on which your knowledge or ressoning might be worthy of respect?

30 punches for Johnson & May: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/march/22/30-questions-that-journalists-should-be-asking-about-the-skripal-case/ “30 Questions That Journalists Should be Asking About the Skripal Case”
Samples:
1. Why have there been no updates on the condition of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in the public domain since the first week of the investigation? …
5. It has been said that the Skripals and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey were poisoned by “a military grade nerve agent.” According to some claims, the type referred to could be anywhere between five and eight times more toxic than VX nerve agent. Given that just 10mg of VX is reckoned to be the median lethal dose, it seems likely that the particular type mentioned in the Skripal case should have killed them instantly. Is there an explanation as to how or why this did not happen? …
13. How is it possible for a state (or indeed any person or entity) that has been accused of something, to defend themselves against an accusation if they are refused access to evidence that apparently points to their guilt? …
19. On the Andrew Marr Show on 18th March, the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, stated the following: “And I might just say in response to Mr Chizhov’s point about Russian stockpiles of chemical weapons. We actually had evidence within the last ten years that Russia has not only been investigating the delivery of nerve agents for the purposes of assassination, but it has also been creating and stockpiling Novichok.”
Where has this intelligence come from and has it been properly verified?
20. If this intelligence was known before 27th September 2017 – the date that the OPCW issued a statement declaring the completion of the destruction of all 39,967 metric tons of chemical weapons possessed by the Russian Federation – why did Britain not inform the OPCW of its own intelligence which apparently contradicts this claim, which they would have had a legal obligation to do?… “

“Britain’s Skripal case evokes strong memories of Colin Powell’s narrative of Saddam Hussein’s developing weapons of mass destruction…” https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803221062808150-uk-russia-nerve-agent-skripal/
“On March 14, The Sun reported that “nearly 40 people had experienced symptoms related to the Salisbury nerve agent poisoning.” <The doctor rushed to deny the claim, stressing in his open letter that there have been only three patients with significant poisoning, namely Sergei and Yulia Skripal and Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey.
"Several people have attended the emergency department concerned that they may have been exposed. None had symptoms of poisoning and none has needed treatment. Any blood tests performed have shown no abnormality. No member of the public has been contaminated by the agent involved,” Davies’ letter reads…
Hamish de Bretton-Gordon claimed [lied] in an interview to The Guardian that the Russian city of Shikhany “was the sole location for development and production” of the A-234 nerve agent. … a 1999 report by The New York Times revealed that the US took part in an effort t”o decontaminate the Chemical Research Institute in Nukus, Uzbekistan. “the Nukus plant was a major research and testing site for a new class of secret, highly lethal chemical weapons,” A-234.”
— Hamish de Bretton-Gordon is the “chemical weapons expert” for May and Johnson and the leading provocateur against Syria; he is consistently dishonest: https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/07/american-military-take-precautions-to-prevent-fanciful-impossibilities/

British indecent exposure: http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/03/20/scl-a-very-british-coup/
“The scandal around mass data harvesting by Cambridge Analytica took a new twist on Monday.
A Channel 4 news undercover investigation revealed that the company’s Eton-educated CEO Alexander Nix offered to use dirty tricks – including the use of bribery and sex workers – to entrap politicians and subvert elections. …
However, Cambridge Analytica is a mere offshoot of Strategic Communication Laboratories (SCL Group) – an organisation with its roots deeply embedded within the British political, military and royal establishment. “For all intents and purposes, SCL/Cambridge Analytica are one and the same.” …
The organisation boasts that it has conducted “behavioral change programs” in over 60 countries and its clients have included the British Ministry of Defence, the US State Department and NATO. …
In May 2015, SCL Defense, another subsidiary of the umbrella organisation, received $1 million (CAD) to support NATO operations in Eastern Europe targeting Russia. The company delivered a three-month course in Riga which taught “advanced counter-propaganda techniques designed to help member states assess and counter Russia’s propaganda in Eastern Europe”. The NATO website said the “revolutionary” training would “help Ukrainians better defend themselves against the Russian threat”…
What is clear is that all of SCL’s activities were inextricably linked to its Cambridge Analytica arm. Mark Turnbull heads up SCL Elections as well as Cambridge Analytica Political Global. Turnbull previously spent 18 years at Bell Pottinger, heading up the Pentagon-funded PR drive in occupied Iraq which included the production of fake al-Qaeda videos.“

Google the underground base at the Denver airport, and this is just one of the many bases the elites intend to use in a nuclear war , these bastards are satanic and are hell bent on installing a Zionist one world government.

Google the underground base at the Denver airport

Impressive underground base indeed, but I still wonder how the warmonging bastards expect to breathe for a year or more after Nuke Day.

Wait, it gets better: the loony Russiagate Dems are now attacking Bolton ... for being too soft on Russia! I am not making this up: https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-kept-cheerleading-bush-era-neocons-now-theres-one-in-the-white-house-84a8e32a1e25

All I can say is the Oded Yinon lunatics are madmenand Boris Johnson with the Imperialist Torys are lunatics.

And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

Europe is in sad state on all sides. The same with USA and the West.

And the Ukraine made a massive mistake. Their situation is completely different to Poland after USSR fell.

Very true. Poland was the first Eastern European country which adopted neoliberal model and thus served to a certain extent as “photo model” of neoliberalism for the rest of Eastern Europe and xUSSR space. So standard of living did not drop too low. The country was somewhat supported by EU and by the USA.

Ukraine was royally raped economically in 1991-2000. Probably as bad as Russia, may be even worse.

In 2014 Ukrainians were lured by unrealistic dream of getting Western European standard of living as a gift for breaking with Russia. As well as the resentment toward kleptocrat Yanukovich (which actually was pretty typical neoliberal politician; not much worse then Poroshenko )

Now they start to understand that the EU will devour the corpse to the bones and they are stuck at the Central African level poverty of $2 a day or so (on average), but this is too late.

A very typical story, a very typical outcome. Neoliberalism is a cancer. As Russian prime minister quipped about economic rape of Russia by local and Western neoliberals in 1991-2000: “We strived to get the best [economic] outcome, but it turned out like we got even worse then average. As always.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Chernomyrdin )

So in a way they stepped on the same rake twice: once in 1991 and the second time in 2014. That’s unforgivable.

I just heard the news too. What can you say except that we now knowwhere we are heading. Yes, We have been betrayed. So sad. Expect a war with Iran in the not too distant future. I’m not sure how they turned Trump, but it’s done now. No more hopeing for a 3-d chess move to eventually get us out of these Zio wars.
Cary

The main Brussels' battle cry is 'populism'.
In my opinion, populism is simply opposing political mainstream.
But this mainstream is disintegrating, Hollande abolished the French socialist party, Parti Socialiste.

In Germany Schulz, former EU top man, SPD member, the Socialist Party Germany, even had to step down as chairman in order to make SPD members agree with the SPD coalition with Merkel's CDU.
Schulz obviously left his overpaid Brussels job in order to become chancellor.

But also Merkel policies are breaking down.
Her minister of the Interior, police, border control, immigration, naturalisation, granting asylum, Seehofer, states that he will reinstate border controls, as the EU does nothing.
Polls show that 76% of Germans agree with him.
What most Germans do not know is that oral instructions were given in Merkel's former chancellor period to customs and border police, not to stop any immigrant at the borders.

Merkel and Seehofer now disagree on Islam, Merkel 'the Islam belongs to Germany', Seehofer 'the Islam is in Germany'.
But in how far the German people and culture can be saved in the long run one wonders.
Demographic calsulations show that with present differences in birth rates in 30 to 40 years time 30 to 40% of the Germans will be Muslims.
As Merkel said 'they're here already'.
What Merkel's objectives are or were, she if often compared to the sfinx.
In any case Mutti, mom, cannot last much longer.

E European countries reject Muslim immigrants.
However, after the Muslim immigrants have been naturalised, under present EU rules, they can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away.
If they want to settle in hostile communities is the question.

under present EU rules, naturalised migrants can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away. If they want to settle in hostile communities …

That’s the crux of the matter. It is coming, it is unsolvable and it will possibly break up EU. A few years back there wasn’t today’s level of polarisation. After 2015 Merkel march, the issue has become very visible. I don’t see how the attitudes in the east could change. Any attempt to move Third Worlders there will trigger a political crisis.

If the ‘naturalised’ come they won’t be treated as EU citizens. And the sh..t will hit the fan. The ‘hostility’ doesn’t prevent people from coming – there has been plenty of hostility in the West. And they often cherish the anti-whitey situations, even try to escalate them. It is not sustainable, Western Europe is heading towards 15-20% Third World soon. In the east it is still under 0.2%. Who thought this would be a good idea to let all those millions in?

Who, and why.
I suppose those who want a Europe that is a USA clone, therefore the European cultures must be destroyed.
This USA clone in Europe can easily be manipulated by money, as the USA is manipulated by money.
Nearly thirty countries to manipulate, next to impossible.
Divide, and rule.

I'd never heard of the author. As I read the first few pars I thought he might be mad. What's his record? What are his qualifications to be taken seriously on anything?

For starter,

How many knows that Obama, the son of Africa, went to the WH with a regime change feather already in his cap, ?

Obama’s Kenya caper…..

During the parliamentary elections of December 2007, a survey funded by USAID announces the victory of Odinga. On election day, John McCain announced that President Kibaki rigged the election in favor of his party and that in fact the opposition led by Odinga had won.

The NSA, in conjunction with local phone operators, sent anonymous text messages to the population.

In areas populated by the Luo (Odinga’s ethnic group), they read “Dear Kenyans, the Kikuyu have stolen our children’s future… We must treat them in the only way that they understand… with violence.”

In areas populated by Kikuyu, they read: “The blood of any innocent Kikuyu will be paid. We will slaughter them right to the heart of the capital. For Justice, establish a list of Luos that you know. We will send you the phone numbers to call with such information.”

Within days, this peaceful country sank into sectarian violence. The riots caused over 1 000 deaths and 300 000 displaced. 500 000 jobs were lost.

Madeleine Albright came back. She offered to mediate between President Kibaki and the opposition trying to overthrow him. With finesse, she stepped aside and placed in the spotlight the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights. The board of this respected NGO was newly chaired by the former Prime Minister of Norway, Thorbjørn Jagland.

Breaking with the Center’s traditional impartiality, he sent two mediators on site, whose expenses were entirely footed by Madeleine Albright’s NDI (that is to say ultimately out of the U.S. Department of State’s budget): another former Norwegian Prime Minister, Kjell Magne Bondevik, and former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan (the Ghanaian is very much on the scene in Scandinavian states since he married the niece of Raoul Wallenberg). Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China.
Small gifts between friends

"Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China."

Brains are not necessary, are just a hindrance, loyalty is what counts.
The nomination of this war mongering idiot is not a good sign.
Alas on this side of the Atlantic the same, yesterday the EU decided on more action against Russia.
For the first time, as far as I can remember, our prime minister Rutte was asked a critical question that was broadcast.
The question was 'is there now more evidence against Russia ?'.
Rutte: not necessary, May says it is highly likely.
So, no proof, no motive, but hostile action is justified.
There are those here who wonder why, as was shown at the referendum about what I call our Patriot Act, half the voters voted against, 50% of the population voted, we no longer trust our politicians.

More like the author of this post has been through your sock drawer, found your hash stash, and smoked it all up. A BBC journalist went to the main Russian WW2 museum and to his astonishment he foundalong with a heroic picture montage, e the theme to 80's US TV series Dallas was played! The Spetznaz badge is the Batman-logo! Russians have the most fantastical ideas a la Rodion Raskolnikov.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

These satanic bastards have deep underground military bases that they think they can survive a nuclear war

I always wonder what the bastards intend to breathe a year after the nukes fall. They undoubtedly have air tanks in their bunkers, but that can't last for long. So what do they intend to breathe, some radioactive air?

Air itself does not become radio active, it is the radio active dust that is the problem.
One can filter the incoming air, but for how long such systems function ?

Air itself does not become radio active, it is the radio active dust that is the problem.

Air does become radioactive; that's why Carbon-14 dating works, because we can measure the ratio of radioactive Carbon to normal Carbon.

There are also several radioactive isotopes of Strontium and Cesium, which are still causing leukemia in children decades after all the atmospheric tests have ended. A global nuclear war would dwarf all the tests combined, not only in megatonnage but also in the number of regions that would be irradiated.

One can filter the incoming air, but for how long such systems function ?

I'm not sure that it's possible to filter out radioactive air. But even if such filters existed, you're right, they wouldn't last long. That's why I'm asking myself what the warmongering bastards will be breathing when all their stored air is gone.

Trump was a deep state man from day one, just like Obama, Bush, Clinton and all the rest,.

It boggles the mind that even at this stage, so many peoples are still bamboozled by this duopoly dog and pony show , aka the mukkan election !

hehehehhe

Brains are not necessary, are just a hindrance, loyalty is what counts.
The nomination of this war mongering idiot is not a good sign.
Alas on this side of the Atlantic the same, yesterday the EU decided on more action against Russia.
For the first time, as far as I can remember, our prime minister Rutte was asked a critical question that was broadcast.
The question was ‘is there now more evidence against Russia ?’.
Rutte: not necessary, May says it is highly likely.
So, no proof, no motive, but hostile action is justified.
There are those here who wonder why, as was shown at the referendum about what I call our Patriot Act, half the voters voted against, 50% of the population voted, we no longer trust our politicians.

There are many who still believe Trump is an anti establishment maverick who has or just been turned.
Even after the 'betrayal' of Obama, that prez for change [sic] , the treachery of Bush, Clintons...... ,, they still dont realise that murrikan election is rigged, no matter who wins, the system goes, nuthin changes.

https://bit.ly/2IKsb1s

Brains are not necessary, are just a hindrance, loyalty is what counts.

Clive Hamilton is either a moron who believes his own craps, or a physcopath who could look right into your eyes while lying thru his teeth, for him to malign the Chinese in Oz as China's sleepers controlled by the Chinese embassy, FFS !

I wonder if he chuckles to himself when writing such nonsense !

While fukus have been the dual heads of the five lies snake, at the rate this yellow peril hullabaloo is being played up in Oz, Canberra is giving those perfidious albions a good run for their monies in the B.S. dept.

under present EU rules, naturalised migrants can settle anywhere in the EU, so the eastern countries cannot keep them away. If they want to settle in hostile communities ...

That's the crux of the matter. It is coming, it is unsolvable and it will possibly break up EU. A few years back there wasn't today's level of polarisation. After 2015 Merkel march, the issue has become very visible. I don't see how the attitudes in the east could change. Any attempt to move Third Worlders there will trigger a political crisis.

If the 'naturalised' come they won't be treated as EU citizens. And the sh..t will hit the fan. The 'hostility' doesn't prevent people from coming - there has been plenty of hostility in the West. And they often cherish the anti-whitey situations, even try to escalate them. It is not sustainable, Western Europe is heading towards 15-20% Third World soon. In the east it is still under 0.2%. Who thought this would be a good idea to let all those millions in?

Who, and why.
I suppose those who want a Europe that is a USA clone, therefore the European cultures must be destroyed.
This USA clone in Europe can easily be manipulated by money, as the USA is manipulated by money.
Nearly thirty countries to manipulate, next to impossible.
Divide, and rule.

Interesting detail about illegal British war propaganda in breach of ICCPR Article 20. Of particular note is the report of Pompeo's role in the blame game for the failed provocation.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they've vanished up the USA's asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

The determining geopolitical factor is Russia's missile announcement. It re-established MAD, but that's not all. It also created a capability for proportional response to the entire range of US force that effectively counters all US use and threat of force. There's no more game of chicken. Russia can discipline the US with localized humiliation and global rout without recourse to mutual destruction.

In these talks, Russia is in a position to impose not just nuclear disarmament but demilitarization. They've turned the clock back to the Eisenhower/Herter peace plan. That is a very good thing.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they’ve vanished up the USA’s asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

Actually, Trident is specifically designed and implemented to be beyond US control.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they’ve vanished up the USA’s asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

Actually, Trident is specifically designed and implemented to be beyond US control.

Ha, ha, you funny guy. Trident runs Windows for Submarines. Unsupported XP. You and I could shoot those missiles off, or brick em. Trident is Prince Harry’s rubber ducky.

I'm still catching up on this thread, so I don't know if anyone else has brought up the following point. But just in case no one has yet, ...

The Skripal poisoning is clearly a false flag, probably committed by the Brits themselves, as Russia obviously has nothing to gain by it. Maybe London's being so loud about it because they are trying to drown out the fact that the UK is taking natural gas from Russia, after all the anti-Russian hatred pouring from Fleet Street. The embarrassment for the Brits -- or at least some faction of the British -- must be extremely acute.

And having closed so many coal generating plants, the Brits are now having to ration natural gas. But hey what’s a few Granny Popsicle’s if it avoids global warming?

A simple question: Where is Julia Skripal, a citizen of Russain Federation, who was taken by the UK secret services and whisked away to some undisclosed location? There have been no photographs of either her father (British citizen) and Julia since the odd incident in a city of Salisbury that is a few miles away from the UK’s main lab of chemical weaponry research.
“Porton Down is situated just northeast of the village of Porton near Salisbury, in Wiltshire, England. … a site of the Ministry of Defence’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) – known for over 100 years as one of the UK’s most secretive and controversial military research facilities, occupying 7,000 acres.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down

Support the [ISIS] troops [in a war for Israel]! http://thesaker.is/syrian-war-report-march-22-2018-syrian-army-gets-control-of-harasta-militants-withdraw/
“Over 40 tonnes of toxic agents have been found in the areas liberated from militants… Damascus has officially confirmed its readiness to assist in any investigation into a chemical attack in Syria. However, international organizations have refused to cooperate with the Syrian government, practically conniving with terrorist organizations in their illegal activity. The Syrian Foreign Ministry pointed out that more than 40 tonnes of chemical warfare agents have been discovered on the territories liberated from terrorists …the international community prefers turning a blind eye to the real facts in which chemical weapons are used in Syria against the government troops and civilians...”

THE SKRIPAL AFFAIR, by Richard Sakwa: http://valdaiclub.com/a/highlights/the-skripal-affair/
Excellent, as always.
“Rather than just the two possibilities outlined by Theresa May, in fact there are at least six, possibly seven. …
There is no doubt that the Skripal poisoning is a major incident that will resonate through history… The only question is whether the confrontation will dissipate, as it did over Agadir in 1911, or whether this is the Sarajevo slow-burning crisis that could explode into flame at some later point.”
—Sakwa quotes Alexei Gromyko, the Director of the Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Europe: “Those who say that this crime is in the interests of the Russian state, in my opinion, make fools of themselves. I have been specialising in British politics for 30 years and on many points I was a sympathiser of the British party-political system not to mention the country per se. But I should confess that in the past decade British politics and British politicians have been turning into something and somebody, that are very difficult to be inspired with even as objects of academic studies. I hope very much that before long the UK will get politicians whom it deserves’. Well, perhaps not entirely the last word: possibly we have got the politicians we deserve? What a dreadful thought.”

Interesting detail about illegal British war propaganda in breach of ICCPR Article 20. Of particular note is the report of Pompeo's role in the blame game for the failed provocation.

Ultimately, Britain is not a factor in foreign affairs. Having withdrawn from the EU, they've vanished up the USA's asshole. The US controls their Fisher-Price nuclear deterrent and their increasingly atavistic veto.

The determining geopolitical factor is Russia's missile announcement. It re-established MAD, but that's not all. It also created a capability for proportional response to the entire range of US force that effectively counters all US use and threat of force. There's no more game of chicken. Russia can discipline the US with localized humiliation and global rout without recourse to mutual destruction.

In these talks, Russia is in a position to impose not just nuclear disarmament but demilitarization. They've turned the clock back to the Eisenhower/Herter peace plan. That is a very good thing.

Britain has literally become Orwell’s Airstrip One.
He was right about the daily two minute hate (now upgraded to the 16 hour hate) currently directed at Russia, and of course the Telescreens surveillance State.

Brains are not necessary, are just a hindrance, loyalty is what counts.
The nomination of this war mongering idiot is not a good sign.
Alas on this side of the Atlantic the same, yesterday the EU decided on more action against Russia.
For the first time, as far as I can remember, our prime minister Rutte was asked a critical question that was broadcast.
The question was 'is there now more evidence against Russia ?'.
Rutte: not necessary, May says it is highly likely.
So, no proof, no motive, but hostile action is justified.
There are those here who wonder why, as was shown at the referendum about what I call our Patriot Act, half the voters voted against, 50% of the population voted, we no longer trust our politicians.

There are many who still believe Trump is an anti establishment maverick who has or just been turned.
Even after the ‘betrayal’ of Obama, that prez for change [sic] , the treachery of Bush, Clintons…… ,, they still dont realise that murrikan election is rigged, no matter who wins, the system goes, nuthin changes.

Brains are not necessary, are just a hindrance, loyalty is what counts.

Clive Hamilton is either a moron who believes his own craps, or a physcopath who could look right into your eyes while lying thru his teeth, for him to malign the Chinese in Oz as China’s sleepers controlled by the Chinese embassy, FFS !

I wonder if he chuckles to himself when writing such nonsense !

While fukus have been the dual heads of the five lies snake, at the rate this yellow peril hullabaloo is being played up in Oz, Canberra is giving those perfidious albions a good run for their monies in the B.S. dept.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia’s in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin’s ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path

That is a psycho-analysis (babble?) step too far. Maybe Putin just likes Russia as is. He has tried to accommodate the West and was very publicly turned down, so he simply makes the best out of it. (And if you don't think West has not repeatedly stiffed Russia over the last 15-20 years, you might be living on another planet.) We have no idea what happened to Skripal, the official story, just an accusation, is not backed up by any evidence. For all we can guess, he was poisoned by his daughter, her boyfriend, or any number of other potential suspects. If UK has the evidence, let them produce it - that is rule number one in any investigation.

Russian economy is long-term competitive stagnant and comparable to Australia’s in size.

Russia has 1/4 of world's resources: arable land, water, forests, energy, minerals, etc... Australia is a less than half Russia's size and is 70-80% covered by unusable land (mostly deserts). It has also been slowly transforming demographically and given its exposed locations that will eventually overwhelm it. Australia has minimal tech competence, it relies on partners. Russia has technology and educated population: nukes, arms, planes, space vehicles,... Not something Australia could ever do.

I think you write what you would like to be the case, not what is reality.

Just as the Brits, the Israelis and the Americans OK stuff like Skripal. Well, maybe not quite like Skripal, which Putin almost certainly did not OK, but lots of extrajudicial killings, wedding parties wiped out, IRA suspects shot in the back, etc.

Is this you, Frederick Kagan, from the family business of the committed banderites? Nothing can be compared to Jewish hatred towards Russia (though Purim is another story of how the obnoxious "chosen" treat their hosts).The most presstituting American (Ziocon) Enterprise Institute, stuffed with the progeny of Naftali Frankel (GULAG) and Lazar Kaganovitch (Holodomor), spreads the same ideas as you do. Here is the former Soviet and currently very zioconish Leon Aron, a supposed "expert" in Russian affairs, who cannot rationalize the Russians' choice of Putin. He even insinuates that there were no elections in Russia because his man in Moscow, a Fifth-columnist, told the senescent Leon Aron that Russian elections would not be "elections." http://www.aei.org/publication/putins-ominous-re-election/Aron quetches that the Fifth column in Russia is dwindling. He does not explain why. But the answer is obvious: The Fifth column needs financial support from the US; no money, no opposition. Leon Aron believes, like other committed ziocons plus Mr. Rove, that facts have no considerable value. Hence his slander of Crimeans and his slander of the Russian Federation re Skripal affair. If there is money for Aron, then Aron delivers. Mr. Leon Aron is an obedient and willing presstitute working hard to have his proverbial butter on the bread. No intellectual honesty is allowed for such endeavor. He is a willing tool.

If you such an expert in Skripal/Litvinenko affairs, here is a repost for you: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/russiagate-comes-to-england/#new_comments
"Nowhere do I hear about the five Russian diplomats who died from dubious causes last year.
Nor is there any talk about the Russian ambassador Karlov assassinated late 2016 in Ankara, Turkey.
The assassination had been perpetrated by a pawn of the NATO-Gladio act that is the “Fetullah Sect” (this sect is also the culprit for the US sanctioned coup attempt in Turkey in 2016, and its leader still lives in Pennsylvania under CIA control).
Who ordered the assassination of ambassador Karlov?"
-- Well, Sean, -- who wants Russians out of Syria? Who has the unbounded tribal hatred towards Russians? Hey, Sean, show your "credibility."

"...alienating West... " https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-s-war-of-aggression-in-yugoslavia-who-are-the-war-criminals/2144
"Nineteen years ago in the early hours of March 24, 1999, NATO began the bombing of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
The causes and consequences of this war have been the object of a vast media disinformation campaign, which has sought to camouflage NATO and US war crimes.
... a large segment of the “Progressive Left” in Western Europe and North America were part of this disinformation campaign, presenting NATO military intervention as a necessary humanitarian operation geared towards protecting the rights of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.
The intervention was in violation of international law. President Milosevic at the Rambouillet talks had refused the stationing of NATO troops inside Yugoslavia.
The Kosovo Liberation Army – whose leader Hachim Thaci is now president of Kosovo – was a paramilitary army supported by Western intelligence, financed and trained by the US and NATO. It had ties to organised crime. It also had links to Al Qaeda, which is supported by US [zionized] intelligence.-- Again, Sean, what have been your objections against the democratic elections in Russain Crimea?

Thank you. I've noted yours as a calm considered voice of reason that reads the carefully chosen words before replying (and the dubious ones that inspired questioning comment). Sadly I think you'll tire of answering Wally, and no one could criticise you for giving up.

It was your comment that prompted me to look into this author. Thank you. I share your concerns. There is a lot (as there is everywhere it seems these days) of opinion and conspiracy theory masquerading as “the obvious truth” here for no other reason than the UNZ Review considers itself outside the mainstream media. I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable.

My experience has been that virtually no events of this type, when viewed from history’s perspective a year or three hence, are approached with anything like the importance or (ironically) the perceived clarity of today.

I tend to think people see what they believe, not the other way around.

Wally is an amusing character. I don’t know if he feels he can improve on his conversion methods or if that thing is working for him. I suppose maybe whatever he is doing is not working for him and he doesn’t realize it. None of my business.

"I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable."
Then you should have "Two Hundred Years Together" by Solzhenitsyn on your reading ist. The book is a documentary based on archival materials; it was written by a principled person who proved his courage and honesty by standing up to a powerful and merciless regime.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path

That is a psycho-analysis (babble?) step too far. Maybe Putin just likes Russia as is. He has tried to accommodate the West and was very publicly turned down, so he simply makes the best out of it. (And if you don’t think West has not repeatedly stiffed Russia over the last 15-20 years, you might be living on another planet.) We have no idea what happened to Skripal, the official story, just an accusation, is not backed up by any evidence. For all we can guess, he was poisoned by his daughter, her boyfriend, or any number of other potential suspects. If UK has the evidence, let them produce it – that is rule number one in any investigation.

Russian economy is long-term competitive stagnant and comparable to Australia’s in size.

Russia has 1/4 of world’s resources: arable land, water, forests, energy, minerals, etc… Australia is a less than half Russia’s size and is 70-80% covered by unusable land (mostly deserts). It has also been slowly transforming demographically and given its exposed locations that will eventually overwhelm it. Australia has minimal tech competence, it relies on partners. Russia has technology and educated population: nukes, arms, planes, space vehicles,… Not something Australia could ever do.

I think you write what you would like to be the case, not what is reality.

Wealthy Russians, even the ones who vote for Putin are all in London with their kids and money, or want to be. Skirpal was living the Russian dream. Putin is like De Gaulle dreading and knowing that once he is gone his beloved homeland will fall under the sway of a rival he loathes. He is embarking on a scorched earth policy to bring home the fat cats, their cash and their snotty westernized kids to a Russia that will be entrenched in ideological opposition to and cultural isolation from the West for the foreseeable future. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34520670

“Way back in Russia in history, back in the Tzarist period, the concept that Russia was a great power was very important to the political culture. A lot of Russians were willing to sacrifice their own personal betterment so that Russia could be a stronger power.

Putin is trying to set the traditional Russian mindset in stone, and make it so the West won’t have the Russians anyway.

"British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow."
-- Have you tried to use your grey matter when reading about this "conviction?" It seems that Boris' and Gavin' laurels have become your dream.
"Way back in Russia in history..."
-- Stay in your zionized Ukraine and enjoy your banderite prosperity.

Well the Ukraine is a case in point, an unmistakable sign that Russia could be vulnerable to a colour revolution, if it was not made impermeable to the overwhelming force of Western soft power.

There are a lot of ways articles the daughter brought could be treated with the nerve agent Apart from obvious ones like perfume, aftershave and cigarettes

The first major application was to impregnate clothing with parathion, an organophosphate absorbed into the bloodstream through hair follicles. A person wearing a treated article of clothing such as jeans, a t-shirt or underpants could be expected to die within four or five days.2 Poisoned clothing, ...were supplied to ZANLA contact men via pseudo groups. [...]

Special Branch distributed poisoned food and clothing in a highly secret programme that utilised rural stores that were commonly raided by insurgents. Storekeepers were usually ignorant of the deployment and as a consequence quite a few accidental deaths were recorded in the general population. In June 1977, The Operations Coordinating Committee requested the officer commanding Special Branch to provide detailed figures for deaths of guerrillas that could be attributed to poisoning. The figures supplied indicated that 809 individuals had succumbed to this method in a period of six months.3 Many members of Special Branch believed that more terrorists were being accounted for by chemical means than by conventional fireforce attacks.

The nerve agent could have been used to impregnate a document (letter from home) and absorbed when they handled it. Skripal had apparently written to Putin asking to be given permission to return to Russia, maybe his daughter brought a reply

Dear traitor.
By the time you have read this you''ll have a full pardon, and less than one minute to live!

The use of something only Russia had Polonium against Alexander Litvinenko was an indication that the FSB intended it as a provocation. Now it has happened again.

I don’t think this one’s gonna be cold Jerry, there’s too much institutional lying in the West for their own domestic audience to take it without fundamental reform once outed. It’s either hot war or no war, and semi-direct democracy for all!!

Air itself does not become radio active, it is the radio active dust that is the problem.
One can filter the incoming air, but for how long such systems function ?

Air itself does not become radio active, it is the radio active dust that is the problem.

Air does become radioactive; that’s why Carbon-14 dating works, because we can measure the ratio of radioactive Carbon to normal Carbon.

There are also several radioactive isotopes of Strontium and Cesium, which are still causing leukemia in children decades after all the atmospheric tests have ended. A global nuclear war would dwarf all the tests combined, not only in megatonnage but also in the number of regions that would be irradiated.

One can filter the incoming air, but for how long such systems function ?

I’m not sure that it’s possible to filter out radioactive air. But even if such filters existed, you’re right, they wouldn’t last long. That’s why I’m asking myself what the warmongering bastards will be breathing when all their stored air is gone.

It was your comment that prompted me to look into this author. Thank you. I share your concerns. There is a lot (as there is everywhere it seems these days) of opinion and conspiracy theory masquerading as “the obvious truth” here for no other reason than the UNZ Review considers itself outside the mainstream media. I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable.

My experience has been that virtually no events of this type, when viewed from history's perspective a year or three hence, are approached with anything like the importance or (ironically) the perceived clarity of today.

I tend to think people see what they believe, not the other way around.

Wally is an amusing character. I don’t know if he feels he can improve on his conversion methods or if that thing is working for him. I suppose maybe whatever he is doing is not working for him and he doesn’t realize it. None of my business.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal

Just as the Brits, the Israelis and the Americans OK stuff like Skripal. Well, maybe not quite like Skripal, which Putin almost certainly did not OK, but lots of extrajudicial killings, wedding parties wiped out, IRA suspects shot in the back, etc.

I'm still catching up on this thread, so I don't know if anyone else has brought up the following point. But just in case no one has yet, ...

The Skripal poisoning is clearly a false flag, probably committed by the Brits themselves, as Russia obviously has nothing to gain by it. Maybe London's being so loud about it because they are trying to drown out the fact that the UK is taking natural gas from Russia, after all the anti-Russian hatred pouring from Fleet Street. The embarrassment for the Brits -- or at least some faction of the British -- must be extremely acute.

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk “gee whiz did you know we’re cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?” your politest description would be “silly” would it not?

BTW to anyone still cerebrating…. what would explain the light sentence Skripal was given in Russia. The answer which suggests itself most obviously is that, when caught, he demonstrated that he had given away nothing of real value. But maybe the sentence giver had in mind the swap and that giving him life might have raised some barrier???

The May show was enough for the EU yesterday to escalate the EU war against Russia.
Our Rutte, nicknamed Pinochio, stated on tv that 'proof is not necessary, May says it is highly likely'.
Motive in questions like this is the essential point.

The only explanation I can think of is that Brussel said to May 'show us that you're on our side in our cold war with Russia, then we will give you temporary access to the EU market'.
At the end of the period GB again will be asked to show loyalty to Brussels, I expect.

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk “gee whiz did you know we’re cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?” your politest description would be “silly” would it not?

The key point is that Skripal was retired, and therefore not of much use. Presumably he was promised some reward, but I think London is quite capable of treachery.

The issue with the natural gas is not how to fry bacon and eggs, but whether to freeze to death in the winter. Does anyone in London want some "Granny Popsicles" (to use Bill Jones' term) on their conscience? I doubt it, as even the worst neocon must be slightly human. Thus Britain was forced to take some natural gas from Russia, after having been one of Russia's loudest haters. Oh, the embarrassment! Hence the Skripal case.

How many knows that Obama, the son of Africa, went to the WH with a regime change feather already in his cap, ?

Obama's Kenya caper.....

During the parliamentary elections of December 2007, a survey funded by USAID announces the victory of Odinga. On election day, John McCain announced that President Kibaki rigged the election in favor of his party and that in fact the opposition led by Odinga had won.

The NSA, in conjunction with local phone operators, sent anonymous text messages to the population.

In areas populated by the Luo (Odinga’s ethnic group), they read "Dear Kenyans, the Kikuyu have stolen our children’s future... We must treat them in the only way that they understand... with violence."

In areas populated by Kikuyu, they read: "The blood of any innocent Kikuyu will be paid. We will slaughter them right to the heart of the capital. For Justice, establish a list of Luos that you know. We will send you the phone numbers to call with such information."

Within days, this peaceful country sank into sectarian violence. The riots caused over 1 000 deaths and 300 000 displaced. 500 000 jobs were lost.

Madeleine Albright came back. She offered to mediate between President Kibaki and the opposition trying to overthrow him. With finesse, she stepped aside and placed in the spotlight the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights. The board of this respected NGO was newly chaired by the former Prime Minister of Norway, Thorbjørn Jagland.

Breaking with the Center’s traditional impartiality, he sent two mediators on site, whose expenses were entirely footed by Madeleine Albright’s NDI (that is to say ultimately out of the U.S. Department of State’s budget): another former Norwegian Prime Minister, Kjell Magne Bondevik, and former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan (the Ghanaian is very much on the scene in Scandinavian states since he married the niece of Raoul Wallenberg). Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China.Small gifts between friends

http://www.voltairenet.org/article162559.html

Indeed, if that’s all a true story the author of this article is responsible for unearthing and tellung it goes quite a way to supporting his prima facie credit.

It makes lots of sense.
fukus has been stalking Chinese workers in oversea projects for decades .
Kenya is just the tip of an iceberg.Consequently, Chinese companies have been hemorrhaging monies due to fukus organised FF and regime changes.

The following was written in 2006, the player back then was Cheney.

[fill in the blank] sees China as the biggest long-term threat to those interests. If conflict with China is inevitable, it makes sense to have U.S. bases in Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Iraq and maybe Iran and Syria. If China is dependent on Middle East oil, it makes sense for the U.S. to be able to control how and where it flows from the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf oil fields. It makes sense to cultivate an alliance with India, risking the accusation of nuclear hypocrisy in doing so. It makes sense to ratchet up tensions on the Korean Peninsula, by linking North Korea to Iran and Iraq, calling it “evil,” dismissing South Korea’s “sunshine diplomacy” efforts and encouraging Japan to take a hard line towards Pyongyang. It makes sense to get Tokyo to declare, for the first time, that the security of the Taiwan Straights is of common concern to it and Washington. It makes sense to regain a strategic toehold in the Philippines, in the name of the War on Terror, and to vilify the growing Filipino Maoist movement.

As you can see, the same old policies continues under Clinton, Bush., Obama, Trump....without missing a bit !

The potus is just puppet on a string, carrying out the agenda of the puppet masters, aka the deep state.

Air itself does not become radio active, it is the radio active dust that is the problem.

Air does become radioactive; that's why Carbon-14 dating works, because we can measure the ratio of radioactive Carbon to normal Carbon.

There are also several radioactive isotopes of Strontium and Cesium, which are still causing leukemia in children decades after all the atmospheric tests have ended. A global nuclear war would dwarf all the tests combined, not only in megatonnage but also in the number of regions that would be irradiated.

One can filter the incoming air, but for how long such systems function ?

I'm not sure that it's possible to filter out radioactive air. But even if such filters existed, you're right, they wouldn't last long. That's why I'm asking myself what the warmongering bastards will be breathing when all their stored air is gone.

The discussion boils down to is it possible to filter radio activity out of incoming air, and for how long.
My idea is that it is possible, C14 is not a good example, cannot see it as radio active.

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk "gee whiz did you know we're cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?" your politest description would be "silly" would it not?

BTW to anyone still cerebrating.... what would explain the light sentence Skripal was given in Russia. The answer which suggests itself most obviously is that, when caught, he demonstrated that he had given away nothing of real value. But maybe the sentence giver had in mind the swap and that giving him life might have raised some barrier???

The May show was enough for the EU yesterday to escalate the EU war against Russia.
Our Rutte, nicknamed Pinochio, stated on tv that ‘proof is not necessary, May says it is highly likely’.
Motive in questions like this is the essential point.

The only explanation I can think of is that Brussel said to May ‘show us that you’re on our side in our cold war with Russia, then we will give you temporary access to the EU market’.
At the end of the period GB again will be asked to show loyalty to Brussels, I expect.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

Is this you, Frederick Kagan, from the family business of the committed banderites? Nothing can be compared to Jewish hatred towards Russia (though Purim is another story of how the obnoxious “chosen” treat their hosts).
The most presstituting American (Ziocon) Enterprise Institute, stuffed with the progeny of Naftali Frankel (GULAG) and Lazar Kaganovitch (Holodomor), spreads the same ideas as you do.
Here is the former Soviet and currently very zioconish Leon Aron, a supposed “expert” in Russian affairs, who cannot rationalize the Russians’ choice of Putin. He even insinuates that there were no elections in Russia because his man in Moscow, a Fifth-columnist, told the senescent Leon Aron that Russian elections would not be “elections.” http://www.aei.org/publication/putins-ominous-re-election/
Aron quetches that the Fifth column in Russia is dwindling. He does not explain why. But the answer is obvious: The Fifth column needs financial support from the US; no money, no opposition.
Leon Aron believes, like other committed ziocons plus Mr. Rove, that facts have no considerable value. Hence his slander of Crimeans and his slander of the Russian Federation re Skripal affair. If there is money for Aron, then Aron delivers.
Mr. Leon Aron is an obedient and willing presstitute working hard to have his proverbial butter on the bread. No intellectual honesty is allowed for such endeavor. He is a willing tool.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

If you such an expert in Skripal/Litvinenko affairs, here is a repost for you: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/russiagate-comes-to-england/#new_comments
“Nowhere do I hear about the five Russian diplomats who died from dubious causes last year.
Nor is there any talk about the Russian ambassador Karlov assassinated late 2016 in Ankara, Turkey.
The assassination had been perpetrated by a pawn of the NATO-Gladio act that is the “Fetullah Sect” (this sect is also the culprit for the US sanctioned coup attempt in Turkey in 2016, and its leader still lives in Pennsylvania under CIA control).
Who ordered the assassination of ambassador Karlov?”
– Well, Sean, — who wants Russians out of Syria? Who has the unbounded tribal hatred towards Russians? Hey, Sean, show your “credibility.”

It was your comment that prompted me to look into this author. Thank you. I share your concerns. There is a lot (as there is everywhere it seems these days) of opinion and conspiracy theory masquerading as “the obvious truth” here for no other reason than the UNZ Review considers itself outside the mainstream media. I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable.

My experience has been that virtually no events of this type, when viewed from history's perspective a year or three hence, are approached with anything like the importance or (ironically) the perceived clarity of today.

I tend to think people see what they believe, not the other way around.

Wally is an amusing character. I don’t know if he feels he can improve on his conversion methods or if that thing is working for him. I suppose maybe whatever he is doing is not working for him and he doesn’t realize it. None of my business.

“I prefer to get my information from the library, from books that have the perspective that comes from a balanced look at what is actually known and provable.”
Then you should have “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn on your reading ist. The book is a documentary based on archival materials; it was written by a principled person who proved his courage and honesty by standing up to a powerful and merciless regime.

The Russian economy is long-term competitivel stagnant and comparable to Australia's in size. Once Putin exits the political stage, Rus must progressively fall under the influence of the dynamic economies and culture of the West, and that is Putin's ultimate nightmare.

Putin must have at least OKed stuff like Skirpal in principle, because after Litvinenko anything else is not credible. He may be partly unaware of his deepest motivation, but I think Putin is playing a long game of deliberately alienating the West from Russia to such an extent that even when he is gone Russia will have to continue to follow its own path.

“…alienating West… ” https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-s-war-of-aggression-in-yugoslavia-who-are-the-war-criminals/2144
“Nineteen years ago in the early hours of March 24, 1999, NATO began the bombing of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
The causes and consequences of this war have been the object of a vast media disinformation campaign, which has sought to camouflage NATO and US war crimes.
… a large segment of the “Progressive Left” in Western Europe and North America were part of this disinformation campaign, presenting NATO military intervention as a necessary humanitarian operation geared towards protecting the rights of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.
The intervention was in violation of international law. President Milosevic at the Rambouillet talks had refused the stationing of NATO troops inside Yugoslavia.The Kosovo Liberation Army – whose leader Hachim Thaci is now president of Kosovo – was a paramilitary army supported by Western intelligence, financed and trained by the US and NATO. It had ties to organised crime. It also had links to Al Qaeda, which is supported by US [zionized] intelligence.
– Again, Sean, what have been your objections against the democratic elections in Russain Crimea?

Wealthy Russians, even the ones who vote for Putin are all in London with their kids and money, or want to be. Skirpal was living the Russian dream. Putin is like De Gaulle dreading and knowing that once he is gone his beloved homeland will fall under the sway of a rival he loathes. He is embarking on a scorched earth policy to bring home the fat cats, their cash and their snotty westernized kids to a Russia that will be entrenched in ideological opposition to and cultural isolation from the West for the foreseeable future. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34520670

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34520670"Because Russia sees itself as a great power, but its eroding influence ...

"Way back in Russia in history, back in the Tzarist period, the concept that Russia was a great power was very important to the political culture. A lot of Russians were willing to sacrifice their own personal betterment so that Russia could be a stronger power.

Putin is trying to set the traditional Russian mindset in stone, and make it so the West won't have the Russians anyway.

“British authorities are increasingly convinced that Colonel Skripal was exposed to nerve agent planted in the luggage of his daughter Yulia who was visiting from Moscow.”
– Have you tried to use your grey matter when reading about this “conviction?” It seems that Boris’ and Gavin’ laurels have become your dream.
“Way back in Russia in history…”
– Stay in your zionized Ukraine and enjoy your banderite prosperity.

Indeed, if that's all a true story the author of this article is responsible for unearthing and tellung it goes quite a way to supporting his prima facie credit.

It makes lots of sense.
fukus has been stalking Chinese workers in oversea projects for decades .
Kenya is just the tip of an iceberg.
Consequently, Chinese companies have been hemorrhaging monies due to fukus organised FF and regime changes.

The following was written in 2006, the player back then was Cheney.

[fill in the blank] sees China as the biggest long-term threat to those interests. If conflict with China is inevitable, it makes sense to have U.S. bases in Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Iraq and maybe Iran and Syria. If China is dependent on Middle East oil, it makes sense for the U.S. to be able to control how and where it flows from the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf oil fields. It makes sense to cultivate an alliance with India, risking the accusation of nuclear hypocrisy in doing so. It makes sense to ratchet up tensions on the Korean Peninsula, by linking North Korea to Iran and Iraq, calling it “evil,” dismissing South Korea’s “sunshine diplomacy” efforts and encouraging Japan to take a hard line towards Pyongyang. It makes sense to get Tokyo to declare, for the first time, that the security of the Taiwan Straights is of common concern to it and Washington. It makes sense to regain a strategic toehold in the Philippines, in the name of the War on Terror, and to vilify the growing Filipino Maoist movement.

As you can see, the same old policies continues under Clinton, Bush., Obama, Trump….without missing a bit !

The potus is just puppet on a string, carrying out the agenda of the puppet masters, aka the deep state.

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk "gee whiz did you know we're cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?" your politest description would be "silly" would it not?

BTW to anyone still cerebrating.... what would explain the light sentence Skripal was given in Russia. The answer which suggests itself most obviously is that, when caught, he demonstrated that he had given away nothing of real value. But maybe the sentence giver had in mind the swap and that giving him life might have raised some barrier???

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk “gee whiz did you know we’re cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?” your politest description would be “silly” would it not?

The key point is that Skripal was retired, and therefore not of much use. Presumably he was promised some reward, but I think London is quite capable of treachery.

The issue with the natural gas is not how to fry bacon and eggs, but whether to freeze to death in the winter. Does anyone in London want some “Granny Popsicles” (to use Bill Jones’ term) on their conscience? I doubt it, as even the worst neocon must be slightly human. Thus Britain was forced to take some natural gas from Russia, after having been one of Russia’s loudest haters. Oh, the embarrassment! Hence the Skripal case.

I forgot to mention.... A measure of the Brits' embarrassment and humilation is that they tried to hide the fact that the natural gas was from Russia, by getting it from a third party (Royal Dutch Shell ship, off the coast of France). Presumably, an actual Russian tanker parked in a British port, there to save British lives, would have been too much to bear.

https://www.ft.com/content/31e076e2-1e28-11e8-956a-43db76e69936

Is it any wonder that they hope the Skripal case will make so much noise that nobody will notice their red faces?

Pause and think. If anyone else suggested the UK government would choose to murder someone who had been one of their difficult-to-recruit agents and was retired in England just to divert attention for a short time from that everyday topic of pub talk “gee whiz did you know we’re cooking our bacon and eggs with Russian gas: scandalous innit?” your politest description would be “silly” would it not?

The key point is that Skripal was retired, and therefore not of much use. Presumably he was promised some reward, but I think London is quite capable of treachery.

The issue with the natural gas is not how to fry bacon and eggs, but whether to freeze to death in the winter. Does anyone in London want some "Granny Popsicles" (to use Bill Jones' term) on their conscience? I doubt it, as even the worst neocon must be slightly human. Thus Britain was forced to take some natural gas from Russia, after having been one of Russia's loudest haters. Oh, the embarrassment! Hence the Skripal case.

I forgot to mention…. A measure of the Brits’ embarrassment and humilation is that they tried to hide the fact that the natural gas was from Russia, by getting it from a third party (Royal Dutch Shell ship, off the coast of France). Presumably, an actual Russian tanker parked in a British port, there to save British lives, would have been too much to bear.

Wealthy Russians, even the ones who vote for Putin are all in London with their kids and money, or want to be. Skirpal was living the Russian dream. Putin is like De Gaulle dreading and knowing that once he is gone his beloved homeland will fall under the sway of a rival he loathes. He is embarking on a scorched earth policy to bring home the fat cats, their cash and their snotty westernized kids to a Russia that will be entrenched in ideological opposition to and cultural isolation from the West for the foreseeable future. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34520670

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34520670"Because Russia sees itself as a great power, but its eroding influence ...

"Way back in Russia in history, back in the Tzarist period, the concept that Russia was a great power was very important to the political culture. A lot of Russians were willing to sacrifice their own personal betterment so that Russia could be a stronger power.

Putin is trying to set the traditional Russian mindset in stone, and make it so the West won't have the Russians anyway.

Well the Ukraine is a case in point, an unmistakable sign that Russia could be vulnerable to a colour revolution, if it was not made impermeable to the overwhelming force of Western soft power.

There are a lot of ways articles the daughter brought could be treated with the nerve agent Apart from obvious ones like perfume, aftershave and cigarettes

The first major application was to impregnate clothing with parathion, an organophosphate absorbed into the bloodstream through hair follicles. A person wearing a treated article of clothing such as jeans, a t-shirt or underpants could be expected to die within four or five days.2 Poisoned clothing, …were supplied to ZANLA contact men via pseudo groups. [...]

Special Branch distributed poisoned food and clothing in a highly secret programme that utilised rural stores that were commonly raided by insurgents. Storekeepers were usually ignorant of the deployment and as a consequence quite a few accidental deaths were recorded in the general population. In June 1977, The Operations Coordinating Committee requested the officer commanding Special Branch to provide detailed figures for deaths of guerrillas that could be attributed to poisoning. The figures supplied indicated that 809 individuals had succumbed to this method in a period of six months.3 Many members of Special Branch believed that more terrorists were being accounted for by chemical means than by conventional fireforce attacks.

The nerve agent could have been used to impregnate a document (letter from home) and absorbed when they handled it. Skripal had apparently written to Putin asking to be given permission to return to Russia, maybe his daughter brought a reply

Dear traitor.
By the time you have read this you”ll have a full pardon, and less than one minute to live!

The use of something only Russia had Polonium against Alexander Litvinenko was an indication that the FSB intended it as a provocation. Now it has happened again.

The Conservative Party has received something close to £850,000 in donations from the Russian oligarchs. Thus the FCA, with their secret fines and useless investigation, supervised by the Conservatives, helped the banks get away with money laundering, and in return the Conservatives were paid off. Just as the Russian bribery scandal is exposed, as if by magic, a Russian intelligence officer, Sergei Skripal, and his daughter are alleged to be poisoned by a mysterious substance in their home at Salisbury, England …

It seems Lord Chief Justice Baron Thomas was surrounded by men and women involved in paedophilia and things have got worse under Burnett, the pizza-lover.
Burnett also covered up Deutsche Bank’s money laundering for ISIS and the Russian Mafia, with the help of the Attorney General, Jeremy Wright MP. Deutsche Bank laundered $10 billion and the FCA (the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority) fined it in secret and failed to identify a single recipient of the money. This was part of a bank cartel laundering £65 billion from oligarchs illicitly transferring money from Russia into London. The cartel also included Barclays, RBS and HSBC. The laundering operation appears to have been kept secret with the help of Barclays’ Jes Staley – Epstein’s man. …

There is also the case of Jeffrey Epstein providing Lolita services to the British elite. Epstein is Jewish and the evidence tells us that Epstein’s Island was Mossad’s blackmail operation. There is the real possibility that Epstein’s network in London would have been routed from the West London Synagogue. The result of that network was the appointment of Jes Staley to the CEO of Barclays. The FOIA referred to in that link proves the UK Treasury Select Committee covered up Epstein’s lobbying by lying to the press about it. …

Insiders tell me May has destroyed dossiers on elite paedophiles, and this is entirely consistent with the article linked above. It is a fact that the MI-5 knew that MPs and prosecutors had lied to protect Smith and the MI-5 did nothing. The MI-5 ultimately answer to the Prime Minister. …
Gangsters generally have a high disposition for paedophilia – it goes hand-in-hand with sadism and psychopathy. One wonders if the Russian gangsters in and around the West London Synagogue, have been supplying children to child trafficking groups in that area. Perhaps Sir Ian Burnett knows the answers, and perhaps Skripal knew that Burnett had the answers and for that reason Skripal and his daughter were poisoned.”

Amazing how these morons don't seem to even know who Bolton is. Apparently, they're using talking points given to them by the kids on their staffs. Maybe they don't realize that Bolton would have been on Hillary's short list for his current spot if she had won.

Seeing democrat congresstwits attacking Bolton is delicious. Up is the new down.

How many knows that Obama, the son of Africa, went to the WH with a regime change feather already in his cap, ?

Obama's Kenya caper.....

During the parliamentary elections of December 2007, a survey funded by USAID announces the victory of Odinga. On election day, John McCain announced that President Kibaki rigged the election in favor of his party and that in fact the opposition led by Odinga had won.

The NSA, in conjunction with local phone operators, sent anonymous text messages to the population.

In areas populated by the Luo (Odinga’s ethnic group), they read "Dear Kenyans, the Kikuyu have stolen our children’s future... We must treat them in the only way that they understand... with violence."

In areas populated by Kikuyu, they read: "The blood of any innocent Kikuyu will be paid. We will slaughter them right to the heart of the capital. For Justice, establish a list of Luos that you know. We will send you the phone numbers to call with such information."

Within days, this peaceful country sank into sectarian violence. The riots caused over 1 000 deaths and 300 000 displaced. 500 000 jobs were lost.

Madeleine Albright came back. She offered to mediate between President Kibaki and the opposition trying to overthrow him. With finesse, she stepped aside and placed in the spotlight the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights. The board of this respected NGO was newly chaired by the former Prime Minister of Norway, Thorbjørn Jagland.

Breaking with the Center’s traditional impartiality, he sent two mediators on site, whose expenses were entirely footed by Madeleine Albright’s NDI (that is to say ultimately out of the U.S. Department of State’s budget): another former Norwegian Prime Minister, Kjell Magne Bondevik, and former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan (the Ghanaian is very much on the scene in Scandinavian states since he married the niece of Raoul Wallenberg). Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China.Small gifts between friends

http://www.voltairenet.org/article162559.html

Thanks for posting, Obama’s Kenyan caper -

“Compelled to accept the compromises forced on him in order to restore civil peace, President Kibaki agreed to create a prime minister post and to entrust it to Raila Odinga, who immediately began reducing trade with China.”

It makes lots of sense.
fukus has been stalking Chinese workers in oversea projects for decades .
Kenya is just the tip of an iceberg.Consequently, Chinese companies have been hemorrhaging monies due to fukus organised FF and regime changes.

The following was written in 2006, the player back then was Cheney.

[fill in the blank] sees China as the biggest long-term threat to those interests. If conflict with China is inevitable, it makes sense to have U.S. bases in Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Iraq and maybe Iran and Syria. If China is dependent on Middle East oil, it makes sense for the U.S. to be able to control how and where it flows from the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf oil fields. It makes sense to cultivate an alliance with India, risking the accusation of nuclear hypocrisy in doing so. It makes sense to ratchet up tensions on the Korean Peninsula, by linking North Korea to Iran and Iraq, calling it “evil,” dismissing South Korea’s “sunshine diplomacy” efforts and encouraging Japan to take a hard line towards Pyongyang. It makes sense to get Tokyo to declare, for the first time, that the security of the Taiwan Straights is of common concern to it and Washington. It makes sense to regain a strategic toehold in the Philippines, in the name of the War on Terror, and to vilify the growing Filipino Maoist movement.

As you can see, the same old policies continues under Clinton, Bush., Obama, Trump....without missing a bit !

The potus is just puppet on a string, carrying out the agenda of the puppet masters, aka the deep state.

Well the Ukraine is a case in point, an unmistakable sign that Russia could be vulnerable to a colour revolution, if it was not made impermeable to the overwhelming force of Western soft power.

There are a lot of ways articles the daughter brought could be treated with the nerve agent Apart from obvious ones like perfume, aftershave and cigarettes

The first major application was to impregnate clothing with parathion, an organophosphate absorbed into the bloodstream through hair follicles. A person wearing a treated article of clothing such as jeans, a t-shirt or underpants could be expected to die within four or five days.2 Poisoned clothing, ...were supplied to ZANLA contact men via pseudo groups. [...]

Special Branch distributed poisoned food and clothing in a highly secret programme that utilised rural stores that were commonly raided by insurgents. Storekeepers were usually ignorant of the deployment and as a consequence quite a few accidental deaths were recorded in the general population. In June 1977, The Operations Coordinating Committee requested the officer commanding Special Branch to provide detailed figures for deaths of guerrillas that could be attributed to poisoning. The figures supplied indicated that 809 individuals had succumbed to this method in a period of six months.3 Many members of Special Branch believed that more terrorists were being accounted for by chemical means than by conventional fireforce attacks.

The nerve agent could have been used to impregnate a document (letter from home) and absorbed when they handled it. Skripal had apparently written to Putin asking to be given permission to return to Russia, maybe his daughter brought a reply

Dear traitor.
By the time you have read this you''ll have a full pardon, and less than one minute to live!

The use of something only Russia had Polonium against Alexander Litvinenko was an indication that the FSB intended it as a provocation. Now it has happened again.

Talking to yourself again, Sean? You make even less sense when you reply to your own comments. Keep it up and you’ll talk yourself into a seizure.

Wait, it gets better: the loony Russiagate Dems are now attacking Bolton ... for being too soft on Russia! I am not making this up: https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-kept-cheerleading-bush-era-neocons-now-theres-one-in-the-white-house-84a8e32a1e25

Amazing how these morons don’t seem to even know who Bolton is. Apparently, they’re using talking points given to them by the kids on their staffs. Maybe they don’t realize that Bolton would have been on Hillary’s short list for his current spot if she had won.

Seeing democrat congresstwits attacking Bolton is delicious. Up is the new down.

That stuff about the 101st (not just 101) iAirborne Division (actually a small part of it) sounded silly to me so I Googled for “101st Airborne Division Africa” and I was left still thinkimg it silly rubbish. Have a look at the first Ebola related piece:

Image: Facebook, 101st Airborne Division more >
Army sending 101st Airborne Division to Africa in support of Ebola mission
By Douglas Ernst – The Washington Times – Tuesday, September 30, 2014
The U.S. Army is sending the 101st Airborne Division, along with combat engineers from other units, to Africa in support of the international community’s attempt to halt the spread of the Ebola virus.

Roughly 1,400 troops, half of whom will be from the famous Fort Campbell, Kentucky, division, will help build 17 100-bed hospital facilities and a health care facility for infected patients, Army Times reported Tuesday. The Pentagon expects the total number of troops sent to the region as part of Operation United Assistance to reach 3,000.

“The most important thing we can do right now is get cases in isolation so we can stem this outbreak,” Dr. Steve Monroe, deputy director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Disease at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Tuesday, the paper reported.

SEE ALSO: Ebola patient moved about Dallas for four days before needing treatment

U.S. military personnel will have received immunizations for chickenpox, influenza, hepatitis, yellow fever and others prior to their October deployment, the paper reported. They will also be well versed in regionally specific training on Ebola prevention.

The World Health Organization believes that 2,900 people have been killed in West Africa as a result of the virus, and the Centers for Disease Control has said that 1.4 million people could be infected with the virus before the end of the year. Half of that population would be expected to die, The Associated Press reported Sunday.

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I'm not impressed with dismissals of questions about the official narrative of events like Sandy Hook that rely on psychological analyses of their proponents and sweeping gene...

If he continues as leader he will doom Labour to lose the next General Election.
That's certainly where I'll be putting my money - and hopefully a decisive result in that direction will also embolden the useless, spineless, traitorous idiot Conservative Party finally to take a completely ruthl...

By helicopter or firing squad? I would prefer “draw and quartering”, but that’s just me.
Would this qualify:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijeljina_massacre#/media/File:Ron_Haviv_-_Massacre_in_Bijeljina.jpg
That's your wife being kicked. You are the guy on the left; your son is on the r...

I suspect they are planning some sort of horrible act to pin on white nationalists
https://athefist.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/timothy-mcveigh-brescola.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03346/Charleston_shootin_3346654d.jpg
works every time

[...] showing an assailant clubbing the trunk of Fields’ car at the left rear, prior to acceleration.
I have studied and investigated that moment in detail, here:
You can clearly hear the guy hit Fields’ car at about 16.5 sec into the Fox News Youtube video, and I am sure Fields migh...