#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2013-10-21

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[00:23:46]-!- terabyte- has quit [Quit: terabyte-][00:31:10]<KimK_1> Thanks very much for finding and fixing that problem, BTW.
[00:31:29]-!- lucashodge has quit [Client Quit][00:34:14]-!- jfire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer][00:36:50]-!- Laremere has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds][00:37:52]-!- jfire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer][00:41:28]-!- PetefromTn has quit [Quit: Bye][00:43:49]<seb_kuzminsky> looks good alex_joni, thanks!
[00:43:53]<seb_kuzminsky> and thanks KimK_1 for pushing it
[00:45:24]<cradek> andypugh: yes he should trust that image in the docs. I can't tell if he's saying he would like the image flipped to match the way his lathe moves (in which case it doesn't matter) or if he's saying the tool orientations don't match his expectations for some reason (like it's different from some other control for instance)
[00:46:18]<cradek> if he sets his orientation according to the docs he'll get correct motion
[00:46:52]<cradek> the preview will look mirrored if his lathe has the tool on top - different issue
[00:46:58]<andypugh> Orientation relative to X?
[00:47:15]<cradek> he may or may not be mixing all these things up in his head...?
[00:47:39]<andypugh> i can't recall if the picture has a nice big "X is bigger this way" arow
[00:48:02]<cradek> yes it does - it has axis arrows
[00:48:17]<cradek> +X is this way, +Z is this way
[00:48:48]<andypugh> I guess your forum-allergy means that you would prefer me to point this out?
[00:49:26]<cradek> you MUST not try to use the tool orientation to make the preview flip upside-down or mirror or whatever it is you want with a tool on top
[00:50:12]<cradek> ah hell I should really try to get over that shouldn't I
[00:50:41]<andypugh> I have. (I hate forums too)
[00:57:23]<cradek> alex_joni: good find, wow, that's an old one
[00:57:41]<cradek> we now know approximately how many people use this feature (0)
[00:59:49]<andypugh> I have a big to fix in lcd.c. The only way it can have been missed is is nobody uses it.
[01:01:36]<KimK_1> I'm not using it yet, but I've got my eye on a couple of Mesa's pendant/sw/LCD cards. So be patient.
[01:02:30]<pcw_home> The matrix_kb comp seems to work fine...
[01:03:11]<pcw_home> I didn't check all 64 output bits though
[01:04:03]Laremere_AFK is now known as Laremere[01:05:44]<seb_kuzminsky> cradek: 2.5 seems to be working fine with linux 3.4 + rtai, too
[01:06:26]<cradek> andypugh: oh god someone has told him to use coordinate system rotation to flip the direction of X in the preview
[01:06:35]<cradek> no wonder he's confused by everything
[01:06:49]<andypugh> That was me
[01:07:03]<cradek> that can't possibly work can it?
[01:07:36]<andypugh> The thread I linked to suggested that it worked best of the alternatives.
[01:08:02]<cradek> this is a gui preview problem
[01:08:02]<linuxcnc-build> build #1077 of deb-precise-sim-binary-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/deb-precise-sim-binary-i386/builds/1077 blamelist: Alex Joni <alex_joni@users.sourceforge.net>
[01:08:12]<cradek> somewhere there's an .axisrc hack to fix it
[01:08:30]<cradek> someone should just fix axis the right way and make it a gui option
[01:08:33]<andypugh> All the options are hacks
[01:08:45]<cradek> haha, that doesn't mean they're equally bad
[01:09:19]<andypugh> Yes, but there are rather few "someones" who speak Tcl
[01:09:46]-!- terabyte- has quit [Quit: terabyte-][01:10:21]<andypugh> GEOMETRY -Z (if I recall correctly) is more confusing than the rotated axis.
[01:10:26]<cradek> but no lack of people who use that as an excuse - any programmer can copypasta a language he doesn't know
[01:10:36]<cradek> that was an inside thought, sorry
[01:11:30]<andypugh> Having said that, the axis-rotation option was for someone with gang-tooling where he wanted to switch viewpoint from tool to tool.
[01:11:36]<seb_kuzminsky> oh jeebus, *more* network problems in the buildbot
[01:12:35]<cradek> I can't picture what coordinate system rotation will do to cutter comp on a lathe
[01:12:45]<cradek> it'll surely make it wrong because it rotates "Y" as well
[01:13:16]<andypugh> Yeah, that's an interesting wrinkle.
[01:14:45]<andypugh> I am going to stae now that I wll _never_ push any changes to Axis. It isn't my code, I don't understand it. I don't care to understand it. If I see a bug I will report it and moan. Sorry.
[01:15:23]<cradek> I wish I wouldn't have said that :-/
[01:16:35]<andypugh> It was a fair comment. I don't disagree with you.
[01:17:24]<andypugh> The part of that aspect of Axis that I can't follow is where is starts to get clever with OpenGL.
[01:17:31]<cradek> jeez AXIS's 10 year birthday is coming right up
[01:18:02]<cradek> yeah to get that X flip you need the right bit of opengl aside from the gui glue
[01:18:42]<cradek> but I don't think that'll make all the numbers wrong, since they auto-orient -- so I think it's at least straightforward
[01:19:20]<cradek> might make sense to have view-switching buttons just like in mill mode, but there'd only be the two of them
[01:19:49]<cradek> but none of this fixes back-side tools, that's another issue
[01:20:09]<cradek> (easiest today is to just use negative X coordinates)
[01:21:16]<cradek> there could be X-negation that I think would not be any harder than diameter mode, but what to do about tlos might be weird
[01:21:56]<cradek> would have to think through arc IJ as well (which are not a problem in the diameter mode hack)
[01:22:09]* cradek waves his hands wildly[01:22:24]<andypugh> If I had back-side tools I would use negative X.
[01:22:32]<cradek> I have and I did
[01:22:33]<skunkworks_> take a breath... ;)
[01:22:41]-!- c-bob has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds][01:22:46]<andypugh> I use negative Z all the time anyway.
[01:23:04]<cradek> very true
[01:23:30]<andypugh> But, if all the tools are back-side, I am not sure what the "right" way is
[01:23:33]<cradek> I'm not sure if I've used back-side with ccomp but I'm sure it'd work if I thought it through and set the orientation right
[01:23:49]<cradek> use postive X for all the tools, obviously
[01:24:07]<cradek> there is NOTHING special about that setup except AXIS's preview happens to look wrong
[01:24:45]<cradek> "back-side" tool on that lathe is in front (negative X)
[01:26:50]<cradek>http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BackToolLathe[01:27:03]<cradek> here is the correct advice (if it hasn't bit-rotted and still works)
[01:27:21]<cradek> it reverses the arrows too, which I forgot is needed
[01:28:04]<cradek> hey it even works
[01:28:07]-!- jfire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer][01:28:21]<cradek> it makes the letter Z wrong
[01:28:26]tjb11 is now known as tjb1[01:28:43]<andypugh> I have _never_ seen that before.
[01:29:35]<archivist> just wait till someone gets this type of lathe set up :) http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_08_31_Bechler_N.EA/IMG_1338.JPG[01:29:43]<cradek> I had trouble finding it, even knowing it existed somewhere
[01:29:51]<andypugh> We first need to define "correct" then implement it.
[01:31:24]<andypugh> archivist: That's actually relatively easy (in fact all lathes are equally easy). -X == smaller stuff.
[01:31:31]<cradek> aside from Z showing up wrong, I think what that .axisrc does is correct (mirrors the preview, flips the X jog keys)
[01:32:41]<andypugh> I think if it was my machine I would just adapt to the preview being "conventional"
[01:32:48]<archivist> andypugh, one of the axes has two tools one front and one rear on a rocker
[01:33:09]<andypugh> Though the jogging might confuse
[01:33:15]<cradek> yeah was just thinking that
[01:33:33]<cradek> but reassigning those is one line in .axisrc
[01:33:47]<andypugh> archivist: Well, yes, but you still only care about diameter space.
[01:34:22]<archivist> I know just the diameter matters but a gui ....
[01:34:32]<andypugh> If axis showed both halves of the work, and a tool at both sides?
[01:34:50]<cradek> AXIS doesn't show the work
[01:35:13]<andypugh> Ok, both aspects of the path?
[01:35:23]<cradek> you mean the program and also a mirror of the program?
[01:35:28]<cradek> hmmm
[01:35:31]<cradek> interesting idea
[01:35:56]<andypugh> In fact, how hard is it in opengl to show a solid of revolution of the tool path?
[01:36:15]<andypugh> (Might mask too much internal detail)
[01:36:30]<cradek> yeah I'm not sure that's what you want at all
[01:36:50]<cradek> the outermost shell of everywhere the tool ever travels probably isn't useful
[01:36:59]<andypugh> But path and mirror seems right for a lathe, really
[01:37:31]<cradek> yeah it kinda does I guess
[01:37:50]<cradek> but only one tool, maybe rapids show only in "front"?
[01:38:18]<cradek> I'm not volunteering to do this :-)
[01:39:07]<Tom_itx> your lead in/out could also be an issue
[01:41:50]<cradek> yeah that .axisrc code is slightly bitrotted - the recentering part doesn't work
[01:42:08]<jepler> alex_joni: groan, I'm glad you found my fubar
[01:42:26]<jepler> we should put a client/server nml sim config in git if it actually works
[01:42:31]-!- geografa has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.][01:42:34]<andypugh> My brain is bitrotted. Time to sleep. :-)
[01:42:50]-!- andypugh has quit [Quit: andypugh][01:44:58]-!- jfire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer][01:45:31]<cradek> I unrotted it
[01:46:03]<cradek> hi jepler
[01:46:06]<cradek> are you back home?
[01:46:33]<archivist> rather than a tool at a side, looking at the sliding head it is a tool at an angle
[01:47:05]<cradek> eh, they are all radial, the work spins
[01:47:14]<jepler> cradek: no, still up in mn for a few more days
[01:47:24]<cradek> ah
[01:47:34]<cradek> it's freezing at night here now...
[01:47:37]<archivist> I know that, but one would want a gui to look sensible
[01:48:43]-!- phantoxeD has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds][01:48:48]<skunkworks_> mn?
[01:49:26]<jepler> skunkworks_: yeah, visiting some friends and family in the twin cities
[01:49:47]<skunkworks_> ah - neat.
[01:52:11]<skunkworks_> your about 2.5 hours from here. Sort of wrong direction
[01:52:42]<skunkworks_>https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Trempealeau,+WI&daddr=Twin+Cities,+MN&hl=en&sll=44.937483,-93.201&sspn=0.414123,1.012115&geocode=FY54nwIdWLSM-imBfqV2A0T5hzFa3Q8Kez-3VQ%3BFQuxrQIdmN1x-imPU7db_Sn2hzEgpK6ohsFw0A&oq=trempe&t=h&mra=ls&z=9[01:52:42]<jepler> yeah, not sure that would interest Ingrid too much
[01:52:47]<skunkworks_> heh
[01:53:49]<skunkworks_> but wait - you could take the 'great river road' and see a bunch of eagles...
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[11:15:32]<skunkworks> logger[mah],
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[14:07:36]<jepler> we can suck it up and ship interp_base.cc or .. not sure what
[14:07:39]<jepler> but anyway something must be done
[14:07:41]<jepler> bbl
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[14:28:47]<seb_kuzminsky> i think smithy does - ez-trol
[14:30:19]-!- kiw has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds][14:31:25]<cradek> ah maybe so
[14:33:20]-!- sirdancealo2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds][14:34:43]-!- mk0 has quit [Quit: Leaving][14:48:29]<jepler> cradek: people shold be able to do that...
[14:48:52]<cradek> I saw the context in your email now
[14:49:23]<jepler> the other half of that is: we should make it clear how to do that, so that we don't have to integrate each half-baked UI into our main git tree
[14:49:55]-!- Laremere has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds][14:50:18]<cradek> I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
[14:50:47]<cradek> but aren't you on vacation?
[14:54:08]<jepler> yeah
[14:55:00]<jepler> it seems to be lightly snowing outside the hotel room
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[15:15:59]<linuxcnc-build> build #1407 forced
[15:15:59]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[16:13:01]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[16:13:12]<linuxcnc-build> build #520 of precise-x86-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-xenomai-rip/builds/520[16:13:13]<linuxcnc-build> build #1411 of lucid-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-sim/builds/1411[16:13:14]<linuxcnc-build> build #494 of precise-amd64-xenomai-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-xenomai-rip/builds/494[16:13:18]<linuxcnc-build> build #1415 of hardy-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-amd64-sim/builds/1415[16:13:19]<linuxcnc-build> build #494 of precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-rtpreempt-rip/builds/494[16:13:20]<linuxcnc-build> build #615 of precise-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-realtime-rip/builds/615[16:13:22]<linuxcnc-build> build #1410 of lucid-rtai-i386-clang is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-rtai-i386-clang/builds/1410[16:13:23]<linuxcnc-build> build #510 of precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-x86-rtpreempt-rip/builds/510[16:13:33]<linuxcnc-build> build #1412 of precise-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-i386-sim/builds/1412[16:15:02]<linuxcnc-build> build #1414 of lucid-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1414[16:15:08]<linuxcnc-build> build #1414 of precise-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/precise-amd64-sim/builds/1414[16:18:34]<linuxcnc-build> build #1413 of lucid-amd64-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/lucid-amd64-sim/builds/1413[16:20:15]<linuxcnc-build> build #1410 of hardy-i386-realtime-rip is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-realtime-rip/builds/1410[16:20:56]<linuxcnc-build> build #1413 of hardy-i386-sim is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/hardy-i386-sim/builds/1413[16:22:34]-!- psha has quit [Quit: Lost terminal][16:25:40]-!- mozmck has quit [Quit: Leaving.][16:26:02]-!- mozmck [mozmck!~moses@client-67.210.159.209.dfwtx.partnershipbroadband.com] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[16:28:21]-!- mackerski has quit [Quit: mackerski][16:44:40]<linuxcnc-build> build #1408 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1408[17:00:53]-!- mark9 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds][17:01:18]-!- vladimirek [vladimirek!~vladimire@95.105.250.72] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[17:05:33]-!- md-2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection][17:10:21]-!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection][17:10:56]-!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection][17:11:16]-!- hm2-buildmaster [hm2-buildmaster!~hm2-build@75-166-190-116.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[17:11:19]-!- linuxcnc-build [linuxcnc-build!~linuxcnc-@75-166-190-116.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[17:11:35]<seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=v2.5_branch checkin
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[17:11:58]<linuxcnc-build> build #1409 forced
[17:11:58]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[18:25:29]<linuxcnc-build> Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1409[18:36:43]-!- IchGuckLive has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 20.0/20130329043827]][18:38:32]<skunkworks> yay!
[19:06:21]-!- stsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection][19:12:26]-!- mark9 has quit [Client Quit][19:51:59]mevon_away is now known as mevon[19:55:19]-!- jfire has quit [Quit: Leaving.][20:11:06]-!- chillly has quit [Quit: Leaving][20:17:53]-!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection][20:17:53]-!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection][20:18:08]-!- hm2-buildmaster [hm2-buildmaster!~hm2-build@75-166-190-116.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[20:18:15]-!- linuxcnc-build [linuxcnc-build!~linuxcnc-@75-166-190-116.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #linuxcnc-devel[20:18:29]<seb_kuzminsky> the buildbot now uses a local clone of the g.l.o git repo
[20:19:04]<seb_kuzminsky> the local clone is updated once, right after a human pushes to g.l.o, and then all the buildslaves fetch frmo the local repo
[20:19:18]<seb_kuzminsky> should fix the 30+ minute checkout times we were seeing...
[20:19:31]<seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=joints_axes4 checkin
[20:19:32]<linuxcnc-build> build #1410 forced
[20:19:32]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[20:19:32]<linuxcnc-build> Hey! build checkin #1410 is complete: Exception [6exception update local git repo]
[20:19:32]<linuxcnc-build> Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1410[20:19:38]<seb_kuzminsky> doh
[20:19:42]<seb_kuzminsky> haha
[20:21:04]-!- motioncontrol has quit [Remote host closed the connection][20:23:15]<cradek> yes it was very fast!
[20:23:43]<cradek> (was it doing a whole new clone every time or something?)
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[20:26:58]<seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=joints_axes4 checkin
[20:26:59]<linuxcnc-build> build #1411 forced
[20:26:59]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[21:27:58]<linuxcnc-build> Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1411[21:28:14]<seb_kuzminsky> good robot
[21:35:54]<cradek> yay
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[22:53:07]<linuxcnc-build> build #1412 forced
[22:53:07]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[22:53:11]<linuxcnc-build> build #1412 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed update branch in local git repo] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1412[22:53:18]<KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05jepler-header-sanity 056b08b 06linuxcnc 10tests/build/ui/ 03expected 03nml-position-logger.cc 03test.sh * test that a basic nml-using UI can be built using only header files we publish
[22:53:18]<KGB-linuxcnc> 03jepler 05jepler-header-sanity 1f23713 06linuxcnc 10tests/ 03build/header-sanity/expected 03build/header-sanity/test.sh * Test header file sanity
[22:53:22]<linuxcnc-build> build #1413 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed fetch revision to local git repo] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1413 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[22:54:01]<seb_kuzminsky> i dun breaked it again
[22:54:12]<jepler> seb_kuzminsky: :-/
[22:54:25]<jepler> in this case I am looking for buildbot's opinion
[22:54:40]-!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection][22:54:40]-!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection][22:55:15]<jepler> seb_kuzminsky: when it comes back up, will you incant it to build that branch again?
[22:56:07]<seb_kuzminsky> will do
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[22:56:56]<jepler> seb_kuzminsky: it's cold up here in mn, and you have to book in advance to get a tour of summit brewery. we should have come to boulder :-/
[22:57:09]<jepler> but on the bright side we saw relatives and a friend up here
[22:57:50]<cradek> at that mead place in boulder they will sure fill you up with mead samples
[22:58:15]<seb_kuzminsky> better than those nasty bloody marys i bet
[22:58:29]<cradek> it was about the experience
[22:58:52]<cradek> isn't that the place you told me was awful? I don't remember why we went there.
[22:59:06]<cradek> some things are hard to understand in retrospect
[22:59:13]<seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=jepler-header-sanity checkin
[22:59:14]<linuxcnc-build> build #1414 forced
[22:59:14]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[22:59:15]<linuxcnc-build> build #1414 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed update branch in local git repo] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1414[22:59:29]<seb_kuzminsky> i said they have awful whiskey, but it's pretty hard to mess up vodka
[22:59:38]<cradek> ah
[23:00:31]-!- adb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds][23:00:57]<jepler> is it their own whiskey, or do they just make bad decisions at the liquor store?
[23:03:35]<cradek> it's their own
[23:04:27]<CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: thanks, someone in the user channel was asking about how to get the debs running, the only missing step was updating grub
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[23:07:43]<seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=jepler-header-sanity checkin
[23:07:43]<linuxcnc-build> build #1415 forced
[23:07:44]<linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[23:07:45]<linuxcnc-build> build #1415 of checkin is complete: Failure [4failed update branch in local git repo] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/checkin/builds/1415[23:07:48]<seb_kuzminsky> grr
[23:09:19]<CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: don't know, I haven't used Ubuntu or Debian in a while, I wan't sure, it didn't break anything and it seems to be working for them
[23:09:39]<seb_kuzminsky> ok, cool
[23:09:46]<seb_kuzminsky> i think it should work even without doing that by hand
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[23:25:25]<jepler> it would be a good idea to make any deb kernel we ship behave in the normal way
[23:26:21]<jepler> but as I'm not working on this myself my opinion about what we 'should do' isn't worth the grain of salt it's engraved on
[23:27:23]<CaptHindsight> KimK_1: did you ever find out what was different about your setup since the new kernel didn't appear in your Grub menu?
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