Swine Flu Strikes, Observations On The Front

Health care workers say the flu season has begun early in Flagstaff, with hundreds of people reporting flu-like symptoms since the start of school in
mid-August rather than beginning in late fall or early winter. Swine flu, or H1N1, is the most common flu circulating because the seasonal flu has
not yet started, according to the Coconino County Health Department. Normally, there would be hardly any flu cases in the county during the first
month of school. But recent data shows a steep climb starting the week of Aug. 22, with more than 35 influenza cases confirmed last week alone One
clinic that had five to 10 patients a week with flu-like symptoms a few weeks ago is now reporting 25 arriving weekly. And for every confirmed case
of flu, an estimated 20 more are not documented, said Trish Lees, spokeswoman for the Coconino County Health Department.

So it begins?

I got the Swine flu for the first time after the initial out break while in Phx Az

It was not Severe rather annoying, inevitably it settled in my stomach where it lasted for several weeks, not severe, just there...

I now have it for the Second time

Less severe but... I just have to post this... The Symptoms are like no flu I have ever had, muscle disorder like a tension, it's hard to explain...
minor sore throat this time, very low coughing...

It's not like a Flu, that's all i can say, no fever...

News reports it's not serious

BUT

5 DEATHS AT FMC Flagstaff Medical Center is reporting five deaths related to any kind of flu since June from patients coming in from all locations,
while the county health department is reporting one H1N1-specific death in Coconino County. Statewide, there have been 22 deaths reported due to
H1N1, and 297 hospitalized. The dead, on average, have been 38 to 40 years old statewide. Reporting is sometimes tricky, as a person might contract
the flu but be recorded as dying of the pneumonia caused by it.

For starters i'm 39

there is something wrong about this flu, it's not like a normal Flu it's very low grade some people might never notice it...

There are a wide variety of disease that don't like to trigger the immune system, that get in and survive for along time doing damage...

I think this was released for purposes of sterilization, the vaccine is probably meant to exacerbate the situation.

For Those Reading

I think when you see Flu around you should maybe take these precautions... I don't think you are supposed to get sick from this Flu, I think it's
meant to spread and infect and linger for purposes of sterilization, it's the only conclusion i can draw at this point and time, it's NOT a killer
Flu and they made a big deal about it.

1: If you get this even if you don't get sick, don't go about your business and "push through"

Treat it... INDUCE FEVER

Your body isn't going to have a serious reaction to this Flu, you don't want to let it linger and do whatever it is it's supposed to do to you be I
right or wrong in my assumption...

Large amount of Caffeine and Hot Green or Black tea and 4-6 hr runs at night where you deeply sweat and raise your body temp to 102 103 so the virus
dies quickly

2: Large doses of Natural solutions (no aspirin let the fever rise) Vitamin D3 Large doses 5x minimum, also be sure to get sunlight, heavy doses of
Vitamin C and Hydrate, Hydrate Hydrate...

3: Exercise boost your immune system keep your CIRCULATION up so the virus can't hide in areas of your body with weak circulation where your immune
system would of course be less effective, for men this will also raise your Testosterone levels...

Exercise also a large boost in Testosterone, CARDIO not Weight Training Corisol production will weaken your immune system, over training with weights
will release allot of Cortisol and suppress your immune system giving you even less a reaction to this Flu

Additional

High Doses of Vitamin E, Zinc and Magnesium

and Trans -Resveritrol

Not huge doses on the calcium and Magnesium it could be unhealthy

why? This is all about boosting Testosterone in order to keep sperm production high, you want to keep your testes healthy through this flu until
it's gone...

I'm being totally serious

IF I am wrong, the worst that will happen is you take a couple of days off rest and make your girlfriend or wife very happy with you for a few days
after...

Also

I would also like to add... There is odd military presence, I have seen some strangeness, govt vehicles in out roads through woods... (could be Dea or
just agents looking for poachers this time of year) but all new trucks, surly looking men) and I have noticed small numbers of Armed troops 2-3 here
or there...also could just be nothing, not being alarmist, automatic weapons in a hippy town looks weird though.

I don't jump to conclusions, could be very simple stuff... but still it bears mentioning I think given the timing of Swine Flu Outbreak at the moment

I like what you are saying here, intuition says you are quite correct.

I also just had a flu (Milwaukee), my treatment was sweatpants and a sweatshirt, mostly liquid foods, and my daily regiment of 1500mg of Vit. C, 500
mg Vit. E, a multi-vit, 32-oz of apple juice, and lots of cigarettes.

I feel great now. I just wish the rest of the family didn't start showing symptoms a few days ago. (Almost exactly 5 days after the height of my
symptoms)

Maybe... but by numbers this is IT here, people are getting it really fast... spreading quick as heck and... No One is really sick at all, it seems a
small percentage have a bad reaction and almost everyone barely gets sick at all and it Swine Flu

This was the prediction Lucky us...woo hoo, we are getting it rampant fast and early, just like the 1918 Flu started in spring, break loose early in
fall... just like they said as soon as it got cold enough

and we hit 27F at night in August some days... when it began, exactly as predicted...

Except...

It's weird

Strange weird and not making 99% of people very sick at all, not even like an ordinary Bum of a flu.

Highly suspicious

I partially picked this place because I know it's a great place to ride out any global storm or Nation wide nonsense...

And maybe initial outbreak, early here, mutation hasn't happened and this Will get bad... for others as it mutates while it spreads...

But I think we are front line for the outbreak because of temperature drop... we are in the south but at 7000 feet, we sometimes have held national
record temp lows for the continental USA... so we are First or right up there...

And it's nothing

and I just find that given this whole spiel about Pandemic, very creepy

Like I said maybe we are lucky here, first non mutated round, free inoculation

Or maybe there is a more sinister reason for why it doesn't do squat as even an ordinary flu goes

This is a very interesting idea you pose and now my mind is going crazy thinking Mmmm....yeah.

I read Dr. Henry Niman on recombinomics alot and he was on Jeff Rense talking about the lack of fever that 10 - 40% of these cases are presenting.
Fever outside of body aches is the main component that people look for in flu seasonal or otherwise so many of these cases at least where I live are
not being reported or they are being ignored because of lack of fever.

But even when I initially heard about the lack of fever, it just didn't make sense to me even then. When a virus enters your body, your body goes on
attack to kill that foriegn entity hence fever. So if some of these cases are truely H1N1 and without fever does this mean the persons body without
fever is recognizing the virus and doesn't see it as a threat or does this virus have a protein component that inhibits the body from amping up the
temp to kill it so it can embed into the persons system and wait to do further damage down the line like steriliztion?

Thanks for comments, I hadn't even known that the swine flu was know to not produce a Fever until you posted that.

I haven't even followed or researched it very much because honestly the whole thing was very speculative and not present in the population or
spreading in a visible way until now where I could observe it.

But goes off as soon as the temperature drops, just as predicted... and it seems you will all get to see it!

Makes me wonder since the temp drops here faster than anywhere in the south along Mexico... if now that the whole Town will have gotten swine flu
Before the Vaccine if they will want us to take it anyway?

I'd like to have a clinical explanation of how, if this virus hasn't mutated, you could have it for the second time... yet a vaccine made of a
weakened form of the virus is supposedly effective in preventing it? That makes no sense at all. Even if all of the more sinister theories
surrounding this virus are untrue, there's clearly a lot about H1N1 that we are not being told, particularly why they are talking about it and
tackling it in a manner suggestive of it being far, far worse than any of the cases so-far indicate it being.

On the testosterone issue:

Men, look for a supplement called "ZMA" it's relatively cheap and it is a scientiffically and clinically proven ratio of Zinc, Magnesium, and
vitamin B-6 which maximizes testosterone production. I've been taking it for about 9 months now and can tell you you will feel like a beast in the
weight room (and in the bedroom) and will experience the most restfull sleep you've ever had in your life.

I think you offer some sound advice, i cant be sure but i may of had it possibly caught it at the hospital as i was visiting there and there were a
couple of patients wearing masks just roaming around. I had bouts of fever and the chills, was lethargic and some back pain and just a slight cough.
If the fever persisted (it did for about 5 days) i was going to go to a Dr, but i recovered it still didnt seem to serious not to me anyway and only
would of gone to the Dr to appease the wife. I treated myself with a few of the things you mentioned and vodka, but i dont think the vodka helped
much.

Yeah this is DEFINITELY the 2nd time I have had it, I was out over the weekend in Phx the week of the first outbreak partying at a particular place
and there were Mexican staff workers who went back and forth over the border and allot of the patrons were well off and Mexicans were among them from
Mexico city and I got sick... with proper symptoms...

And now, and this is News article there is a very fast spread going on and I have the exact same symptoms and it's (h1n1) the only thing going
around...

It's recognizable, it's a weird germ it doesn't have symptoms like any other flu I have ever had, thankfully not too debilitating other than these
very odd muscle aches... almost like right under the skin... like I said it's hard to even explain because nothing feels like this, I don't have a
word for it, like Muscle Tightening...

And yeah... I got it 2x now which is ridiculous for a flu... maybe... 6 months apart? different parts of the state, chance to mutate... in any event
it isn't as bad as the first time...

Was this a typo? Do you mean physically running? That is quite a long run if so... I run all the time and could not do this frequently (it is longer
than the time I can run a marathon...).

But, I think there is benefit in trying to "burn things away" I always feel better after a run when I am sick.

LOL! I just realized that when I initially read the OP I saw that statement and assumed it was in reference to diarh... diaree... the squirts. Now
that I think about it, I'm guessing it means 4-6 hour stretches of time spent wrapped up in heavy blankets, sweating.

Interesting. I've actually found myself suffering essentially what you described since around the middle of Spring. My eyes constantly feel like
they have grit in them, I have a perpetually runny nose, my sinuses hurt, especially my forehead right bove the bridge of my nose, I have a
persistant light cough, and the worst of it, I have general aches and pains and probably half of the week my neck and nodes ache. Plus, I've
suffered from an almost constant headache all summer, never really going completely away, only varrying in severity. I've written most of it off as
allergies, even though no allergy medicine has seemed to help. The rest I've written off as a combination of stress and a side-effect of "self
medicating."

I can't believe that after all I've read on ATS about this "H1N1" I never once before just now thought I might have had it or any variant of it.
The itchy eyes, sore neck, and HEADACHE were what caught my eye in your post. I had no idea other people had been experiencing these symptoms and I
also never knew before this thread in general that H1N1 was often seen without producing a fever. The fact that I haven't had any instances of fever
was really the #1 reason I never thought I might have had it.

Universities start up on Monday (Fall term sessions) and campus is hopping busy right now! I've just received a flyer on my door describing steps to
take for flu season... aside from the obvious steps, there is NO recommendation for the swine flu vaccine and it seems that the option is NOT on the
table via campus docs. and says to consult your private physician if you are concerned or if you want it, however, the seasonal flu vaccine IS
recommended and free to all on campus.

It also mentions considering moving into an isolation center if you are sick (and you have roommates) but otherwise, just stay home.

I don't know what to make of this, given all the dire warnings to GET the shot... is the university/city just not worried about swine flu, or is it
something else? It's all quite interesting given the state of media warnings regarding flu hitting school's and campuses hard... things that make
you go hmmmm...

I agree with you and have had the same issues and dealt with them entirely, you have to purge really hard, it's not a disease it's no one thing
it's just way to many combination's of chemicals in water and food ineteracting and yeah... it's a problem.

Black old is also rampant around the USA and few people would even know... there are allot of factors involved.

But I successfully eliminated all symptoms...

This

Is a germ it spreads it's going in exactly the manner of the 1918 Flu... That doesn't mean it will be as serious in death toll in a modern world,
but it is a very different kind of flu in how it works...

It just shouldn't be ignored... I think can be a true pandemic because of the way it just hangs in there very lightly almost non symptomatic, it has
allot of time to mutate in the body, it could become a deadly flu imho

If you get it now

seriously kill it while it's weak and hasn't mutated don't ignore it because you feel sort of okay and let it change inside you then pass it on.

Even if my slightly paranoid Sterilization theory is wrong, which it very well could be... You don't want a germ lingering.

Mmm...I just had something similar to what you are talking about. Mine started over a week ago, and was marked by extreme fatigue. I was tired and
achy all over for about 5 days. Then I got a sore throat. I woke up that morning having a feeling of diaria. When I woke up I was laying on my stomach
and it felt like all the blood in my body had liquidated and was settling in to gravity. It took a few moments for blood to begin circulating
correctly. Anyhow...no fever, 3 days of sore throat...no headache...and a dry cough that just broke today into more of a flem type of cough.

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