Unless you have extensive amounts of level 90 raid DPS logs.. please stop posting this stupid stuff. At what point do morons realize that these are not nerfs from live, these are nerfs from the last beta build... so like I said, unless you have mounds of dps logs like the devs have, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Well while I am sad that they changed it, I am glad it wasn't after it was put on live and had to adjust with them taking it away.

With HR on a 30 sec cooldown and double time / Juggernaut PVP mobility is just fine, add to that Avatar and Bladestorm I think it will be just fine. As for the stun reduction on DR, meh, the damage wasn't changed so I can live with it as well. Shockwave is still the superior talent regardless unless you want some lulz.

Well while I am sad that they changed it, I am glad it wasn't after it was put on live and had to adjust with them taking it away.

With HR on a 30 sec cooldown and double time / Juggernaut PVP mobility is just fine, add to that Avatar and Bladestorm I think it will be just fine. As for the stun reduction on DR, meh, the damage wasn't changed so I can live with it as well. Shockwave is still the superior talent regardless unless you want some lulz.

this is a huge nerf period-no denying that.warriors are still lacking in the grip department.no root on HS and TD is gone-if you take MS over safeguard you sit in roots-even more so then before.