I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Anastacya:I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

Don't Tongue the Reaper!:Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

I always thought that Christians welcomed anyone into heaven. I suppose everyone has a different view of the afterlife.

Don't Tongue the Reaper!:Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

Abraham happens to own the building, but St. Peter holds the lease right now.

I have an honest question. Not trying to be a dick, but when I read "holocaust survivor" I assumed that was synonymous with "death camp survivor." Is my interpretation erroneous, or did subby misuse the term?

Mutt Farkinov:I have an honest question. Not trying to be a dick, but when I read "holocaust survivor" I assumed that was synonymous with "death camp survivor." Is my interpretation erroneous, or did subby misuse the term?

"Holocaust Survivor", to me, refers to anyone under Nazi rule who would have been targeted, especially Jewish people. However, if the only claim is being a survivor of the Holocaust, then this usually refers to the camps or similar circumstance.

Mutt Farkinov:I have an honest question. Not trying to be a dick, but when I read "holocaust survivor" I assumed that was synonymous with "death camp survivor." Is my interpretation erroneous, or did subby misuse the term?

No any Jewish person, or otherwise labeled "undesirable" that survived the holocaust, is a holocaust survivor. Just because they managed to escape detection or being rounded up and shipped off doesn't mean they somehow failed to survive the holocaust......

Anastacya:Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

I always thought that Christians welcomed anyone into heaven. I suppose everyone has a different view of the afterlife.

The first part isn't true, the second part is. In indifferentist religions... Judaism, Hinduism, to a lesser extent Buddhism, and so on... you can get to heaven/nirvana/whatever end game state is desired through various paths. In old testament terms "there is more than one path to righteousness".

Christianity is premised upon there being no way to heaven except through Jesus. It's right there in the boiler plate. Same for Islam, on a different level, requiring the recognition of Mohamed. Heck, you can probably just make a rule about descendant Abrahamic religions and them requiring you to patch to the latest version to get the upgrade.

Most people know preciously little about the religions they purport to have, let alone the religion of others.

Researcher:Anastacya: Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

I always thought that Christians welcomed anyone into heaven. I suppose everyone has a different view of the afterlife.

The first part isn't true, the second part is. In indifferentist religions... Judaism, Hinduism, to a lesser extent Buddhism, and so on... you can get to heaven/nirvana/whatever end game state is desired through various paths. In old testament terms "there is more than one path to righteousness".

Christianity is premised upon there being no way to heaven except through Jesus. It's right there in the boiler plate. Same for Islam, on a different level, requiring the recognition of Mohamed. Heck, you can probably just make a rule about descendant Abrahamic religions and them requiring you to patch to the latest version to get the upgrade.

Most people know preciously little about the religions they purport to have, let alone the religion of others.

/just sayin

Yeah, even if an individual Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.) is open-minded and would welcome others, the religious texts are pretty much clear that that's not the case.

Don't Tongue the Reaper!:Researcher: Anastacya: Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

I always thought that Christians welcomed anyone into heaven. I suppose everyone has a different view of the afterlife.

The first part isn't true, the second part is. In indifferentist religions... Judaism, Hinduism, to a lesser extent Buddhism, and so on... you can get to heaven/nirvana/whatever end game state is desired through various paths. In old testament terms "there is more than one path to righteousness".

Christianity is premised upon there being no way to heaven except through Jesus. It's right there in the boiler plate. Same for Islam, on a different level, requiring the recognition of Mohamed. Heck, you can probably just make a rule about descendant Abrahamic religions and them requiring you to patch to the latest version to get the upgrade.

Most people know preciously little about the religions they purport to have, let alone the religion of others.

/just sayin

Yeah, even if an individual Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.) is open-minded and would welcome others, the religious texts are pretty much clear that that's not the case.

Actually, I believe that the Koran states that Jews and Christians - other "People of the Book" - will be judged by the standards of their own faiths on Judgment Day, and need not have been Muslim to enter Heaven/Paradise:

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians -whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right -shall have nothing to fear or regret.-- Sura 5:69

Obviously subject to interpretation. But certainly more wiggle room than mainstream Christianity.

Malik Sardonis:Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Researcher: Anastacya: Don't Tongue the Reaper!: Anastacya: I guess Saint Peter is going to keep that gate widened for a little bit longer after the Bishop gets through. This woman is amazing! Her dedication to science is an example that I hope others will look to for inspiration.

Why would St. Peter let a Jew in? I don't think that's how Christian heaven works.

I always thought that Christians welcomed anyone into heaven. I suppose everyone has a different view of the afterlife.

The first part isn't true, the second part is. In indifferentist religions... Judaism, Hinduism, to a lesser extent Buddhism, and so on... you can get to heaven/nirvana/whatever end game state is desired through various paths. In old testament terms "there is more than one path to righteousness".

Christianity is premised upon there being no way to heaven except through Jesus. It's right there in the boiler plate. Same for Islam, on a different level, requiring the recognition of Mohamed. Heck, you can probably just make a rule about descendant Abrahamic religions and them requiring you to patch to the latest version to get the upgrade.

Most people know preciously little about the religions they purport to have, let alone the religion of others.

/just sayin

Yeah, even if an individual Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.) is open-minded and would welcome others, the religious texts are pretty much clear that that's not the case.

Actually, I believe that the Koran states that Jews and Christians - other "People of the Book" - will be judged by the standards of their own faiths on Judgment Day, and need not have been Muslim to enter Heaven/Paradise:

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians -whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right -shall have nothing to fear or regret.-- Sura 5:69

Obviously subject to interpretation. But certainly more wiggle room than mainstream Christianity.

Definitely more open than Christianity. Who are the Sabaeans? Are they like Sebaceans?

Yeah, even if an individual Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.) is open-minded and would welcome others, the religious texts are pretty much clear that that's not the case.

Actually, I believe that the Koran states that Jews and Christians - other "People of the Book" - will be judged by the standards of their own faiths on Judgment Day, and need not have been Muslim to enter Heaven/Paradise:

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians -whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right -shall have nothing to fear or regret.-- Sura 5:69

Obviously subject to interpretation. But certainly more wiggle room than mainstream Christianity.

Definitely more open than Christianity. Who are the Sabaeans? Are they like Sebaceans?

According to Wiki, a neighboring tribe in Yemen. Appear to have been essentially wiped out about three hundred years before Islam, which made it easy to be magnanimous about them. It's the thought that counts, I suppose.

Yeah, even if an individual Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.) is open-minded and would welcome others, the religious texts are pretty much clear that that's not the case.

Actually, I believe that the Koran states that Jews and Christians - other "People of the Book" - will be judged by the standards of their own faiths on Judgment Day, and need not have been Muslim to enter Heaven/Paradise:

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians -whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right -shall have nothing to fear or regret.-- Sura 5:69

Obviously subject to interpretation. But certainly more wiggle room than mainstream Christianity.

Definitely more open than Christianity. Who are the Sabaeans? Are they like Sebaceans?

According to Wiki, a neighboring tribe in Yemen. Appear to have been essentially wiped out about three hundred years before Islam, which made it easy to be magnanimous about them. It's the thought that counts, I suppose.

According to Wiki, a neighboring tribe in Yemen. Appear to have been essentially wiped out about three hundred years before Islam, which made it easy to be magnanimous about them. It's the thought that counts, I suppose.

I was fortunate enough to meet her and eat dinner at a table with her and her associates from Italy at a conference in Israel. She was just 99 then and was embarking on a new research project! She gave a speech full of poise despite her tiny stature. Remarkable woman and much of my career has been possible directly as a result of her Nobel Prize work.R.I.P.

AbortionsForAll:So why does being a holocaust survivor incur more credit? Why couldn't she just be recognized for her efforts in medicine?

It depends on if you are a Jew or Gentile. If you are a Jew, like subby probably is, she is a HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR. If you are a gentile no big deal. You probably have male relatives that actually fought in WW2. We don't preface everything about them as WW2 survivor.

Vectron:AbortionsForAll: So why does being a holocaust survivor incur more credit? Why couldn't she just be recognized for her efforts in medicine?

It depends on if you are a Jew or Gentile. If you are a Jew, like subby probably is, she is a HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR. If you are a gentile no big deal. You probably have male relatives that actually fought in WW2. We don't preface everything about them as WW2 survivor.