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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

I'm sorry, but once again I find this mock ridiculous. There's no way Gabbert falls to the 12th pick, nor is his talent that low a level. I am of the full opinion that Newton is a walking bust, and Gabbert will be a better pro QB than him. Also, while I understand that at the 13th pick Tyron Smith might be the BPA and fill a need (Cherilus might never be the same after microfracture surgery this past off-season), I think RTs can be had in the latter rounds.

Oh, and Kendrick Ellis and James Carpenter as first round picks?! Ugh.

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April 24th, 2011, 8:17 pm

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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

Cam Newton is gonna be the guy to free fall in this draft. I personally dont get how people have that high of an opinion of him. he doesnt even know how to call a play so he has so much to learn that he is gonna be a long term project. he has even had issues with his accuracy in his workouts. i dont see how carolina could even be considering taking him at number 1. i have a hard enough time trying to figure out how anybody could even be considering him in the first round. he does have the size and athletic ability to play the game but does he have the rest of the tools? im not sold

April 24th, 2011, 8:38 pm

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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

He based this draft on team needs, not how he sees the draft unfolding. His article with this draft focused on linemen and he has 21 of the 32 picks at those spots to no surprise. Don't take it to serious yet fellas.

He based this draft on team needs, not how he sees the draft unfolding. His article with this draft focused on linemen and he has 21 of the 32 picks at those spots to no surprise. Don't take it to serious yet fellas.

Isn't it amazing the same things need to be said every year (and multiple times per year)?

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April 25th, 2011, 9:43 am

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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

Pablo wrote:

He based this draft on team needs, not how he sees the draft unfolding. His article with this draft focused on linemen and he has 21 of the 32 picks at those spots to no surprise. Don't take it to serious yet fellas.

I was under the impression that this was who he thought the teams SHOULD draft? And if this is based on NEED, then he missed with the Lions. They don't NEED a right tackle, and Goose should know that, particularly in the first round.

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April 25th, 2011, 11:38 am

Pablo

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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

m2karateman wrote:

Pablo wrote:

He based this draft on team needs, not how he sees the draft unfolding. His article with this draft focused on linemen and he has 21 of the 32 picks at those spots to no surprise. Don't take it to serious yet fellas.

I was under the impression that this was who he thought the teams SHOULD draft? And if this is based on NEED, then he missed with the Lions. They don't NEED a right tackle, and Goose should know that, particularly in the first round.

With Gosders knee a big question mark and Staffords health the key to the season I woudn't say they don't need a RT. The also need a LT to protect the franchise going forward.

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Re: Goose's Mock Draft #2

Pablo wrote:

With Gosders knee a big question mark and Staffords health the key to the season I woudn't say they don't need a RT. The also need a LT to protect the franchise going forward.

2 reasons why I say that they don't NEED a right tackle, PARTICULARLY IN THE FIRST ROUND.

1. Corey Hilliard2. Jason Fox

Hilliard was better last season than Cherilus at RT, as far as I'm concerned. Fox would probably be an improvement over Cherilus as well. There are two guys, right there, that would likely start at RT over ANY player the Lions select in this draft, including Smith. Eventually Tyron Smith would likely be a better player than them, but I don't believe he'd get to that point in 2011, since he is pretty raw. If the Lions want to keep Matt healthy in 2011, I'm all for it. First, teach him how to fall. Second, get him a running game. Third, if they are going to draft someone to play RT, draft someone who is NFL ready for the task now. I think someone like Gabe Carimi is better suited for that duty now than Tyron Smith. I would suggest trading down and then taking Carimi.

Now, in regards to the LT situation, I believe that is what Jason Fox was drafted for. Is he the guy or not? I don't think anyone has that answer yet. As a potential future left side starter in the league, I would agree with the Smith pick.

Like I said, in this mock I do see Tyron Smith as the BPA at the Lions pick, therefore I wouldn't scoff at that. I would imagine the Lions would trade down, in reality. I was degrading this version of his draft based on Gabbert falling so far, plus the inclusion of Ellis and Carpenter as first round picks.

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He based this draft on team needs, not how he sees the draft unfolding. His article with this draft focused on linemen and he has 21 of the 32 picks at those spots to no surprise. Don't take it to serious yet fellas.

Isn't it amazing the same things need to be said every year (and multiple times per year)?

Wags, I know how Gosselin's 3 mock drafts work, so don't bang your head against the wall. It'll only give you a headache.

What I'm saying is that he had Aaron Williams going in the 1st, but not Jimmy Smith. Since this mock is based on team needs, shouldn't the Steelers be selecting Smith instead? Of course, he could be projecting Williams moving to S, but he listed him as a CB.