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Shug.....
As always, a great and very informative vid!!
Nowwwww....I get the reefing setup. Gotta try me that.
SW

I was winging it........

Originally Posted by Hooch

Very interesting. I like this method and very well may be putting it to use the next time I'm out. It's gotta be worth a whot, at least. Heck, If I don't like it, I can always go back to my current method. Many thanks to Shug for the video demonstration and to TeeDee whose idea this was in the first place. As a long time member here, TeeDee's creativity, innovation, forward thinking and DIY prowess never cease to not only amaze me, but teach me something on a pretty doggone regular basis. Thanks! I reckon this means I gotta order more Speer No-Tangle.

I agree .... Tee-Dee is a "thinker and a dinker".
Yeah ... it takes about a minute to switch back.
I want BBQ....

Originally Posted by Alan

Agreed. Great video! I might just have to try this setup, too.

I think that with some practice it would get faster....... I will more than likely stick with snake-skins.

Originally Posted by NCPatrick

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Thanks Shug!

I find that funny!!!!

Originally Posted by Ken

Another good one Shug!
I was tinkering with reefing yesterday. I ended up tying a long line outside the prussic on one end and then reefing the tarp with a series of half hitches about
every 18 inches as I moved along. This worked well, but a reefing line from each end, or two from the middle may be a little easier to work with. It's kind of like sheepshanking a rope, only with the tarp.
Sorry, didn't get any photos, but I will soon if needed.
ken

Hey Ken .... fun stuff for sure.
Get those pix......

Originally Posted by NCPatrick

I find myself surprised that you found that much daylight to film in at this time of year in Minnesoota.

tarp under ridgeline

Shug,
Nice job on the video. I do something similar, but my ridgeline is a true structural ridgeline for the hammock (i.e. - hammock hangs from ridgeline). The bungee on the tarp pulls it high enough that there's headroom to cook under it when it's raining, but it stretches enough that the whole tarp can be pulled down for better coverage from wind and rain at night. Still working on refining it, but I currently get about 8" vertical adjustment for the tarp.
David

Nice vid Shug. Hangin' Burrito and I were discussing the very same thing yesterday. The only caveat may be the threat of rain. When I don't have my 'gear port' set up I keep all my gear hung on biners under the tarp, which would then be impossible. I love the idea. Have my prussic lines with DIY sugi-tensioners ready but its just gonna rain all day here again. sob sob

Last edited by Running Feather; 11-11-2009 at 11:21.

"If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is STOP DIGGING "

Nice vid Shug. Hangin' Burrito and I were discussing the very same thing yesterday. The only caveat may be the threat of rain. When I don't have my 'garage' set up I keep all my gear hung on biners under the tarp, which would then be impossible. I love the idea. Have my prussic lines with DIY sugi-tensioners ready but its just gonna rain all day here again. sob sob

thinking (=dangerous) aloud...
would a 2nd set of prusiks (with a longer loop) outside the 'tarp' prusiks allow for an adjustable clothesline under the tarp?
hmmm...more thinking required

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Nice video, Shug! As usual, it helps to see an illustration of the idea.

Try as I might, I'm just not seeing a big advantage of a separate tarp ridgeline that is sufficient to justify adding the fiddly factor of another bit of rope and prusiks. As demonstrated in the video, I can see some advantage to shifting the tarp lengthwise before tying it down, but I do that already in initial setup.

My tarp uses Speer No-tangle line lark's headed to the tarp's ridgeline D-rings. I can adjust tarp tension and position with small figure-9s (or just knots!).

It's easier to see advantages to snakeskin coverings or reefing ties for setup in windy conditions, but neither of those requires a separate dedicated ridgeline to work.

It's all very interesting to see and compare approaches. Among other things, it enables me to think through what I'm doing and why. If there was only one way to do things, we wouldn't have much of a forum, eh?

"The more I carry the happier I am in camp; the less I carry the happier I am getting there" - Sgt. Rock

Nice video, Shug! As usual, it helps to see an illustration of the idea.

Try as I might, I'm just not seeing a big advantage of a separate tarp ridgeline that is sufficient to justify adding the fiddly factor of another bit of rope and prusiks. As demonstrated in the video, I can see some advantage to shifting the tarp lengthwise before tying it down, but I do that already in initial setup.

Hi Beep!

I'm not sure I'm sold on the reefing yet either. But, the big advantage to TeeDee's ridge line is the ability to adjust the tarp side to side. Also, it is quick to go up. On the first tree you simply have a small loop in the end of the line. Pass the line around the tree, pull a bight through the loop and drop in a toggle. Then pull it tight to the other tree and use a trucker's hitch or
small figure 9. Mine is all together in the sack with the first loop of the ridge on top. As of right now, the reefing is slower than snakes skins would be, but the process may need to be refined.

Nice video, Shug! As usual, it helps to see an illustration of the idea.
Try as I might, I'm just not seeing a big advantage of a separate tarp ridgeline that is sufficient to justify adding the fiddly factor of another bit of rope and prusiks. As demonstrated in the video, I can see some advantage to shifting the tarp lengthwise before tying it down, but I do that already in initial setup.
My tarp uses Speer No-tangle line lark's headed to the tarp's ridgeline D-rings. I can adjust tarp tension and position with small figure-9s (or just knots!).
It's easier to see advantages to snakeskin coverings or reefing ties for setup in windy conditions, but neither of those requires a separate dedicated ridgeline to work.
It's all very interesting to see and compare approaches. Among other things, it enables me to think through what I'm doing and why. If there was only one way to do things, we wouldn't have much of a forum, eh?

I agree ... I usually use figure nines and Speer No Tangle right off of my tarp d-rings too. more than likely will stay with that but want to try this method on a trip or two just to see what is what and all that.
For sure will stick with snakeskins but this is all too much fun to fool with!!!!

Originally Posted by Ken

Hi Beep!
I'm not sure I'm sold on the reefing yet either. But, the big advantage to TeeDee's ridge line is the ability to adjust the tarp side to side. Also, it is quick to go up. On the first tree you simply have a small loop in the end of the line. Pass the line around the tree, pull a bight through the loop and drop in a toggle. Then pull it tight to the other tree and use a trucker's hitch or
small figure 9. Mine is all together in the sack with the first loop of the ridge on top. As of right now, the reefing is slower than snakes skins would be, but the process may need to be refined.
Ken