Will Bloomberg publicly apologize to the secular Muslim NY Cabbie and his family for inciting the pro-jihad mosque vigilantee to moby violence?

It's past time to take a little ownership for Bloomberg's orchestrated Islamo-supremacist advocacy campaign.

What gets lost in all Bloomberg's recent demogoguery is that the Muslim cabbie victim is himself a hateful hater, bigot, inauthentic, xenophobic, neanderthal-- at least, if you go by the criterion set out by Bloomberg (and his Quisling toadies in the media): Opposing the mosque is "Islamophobia"-- period. Right?

As an anti-jihadist, however, I’m inclined to observe that the Muslim cabbie’s pretty much consonant in his opinion of the Cordoba mosque with a super majority (70%) of his fellow Americans.

That Bloomberg's proteges will be disappointed to discover the opinion of this Muslim cabbie apostate tells you all you need to know about the two "sides" of this debate.

The campaign of GOP Senate nominee Marco Rubio is having a field day with an interview Crist gave to a Florida cable news station this afternoon in which Crist pretty clearly says "I would have voted for it," when asked about the health care law President Obama signed in March. The answer was a flip-flop from Crist's past public opposition to the law first voiced back when he was still a Republican running against Rubio in the primary. (On Crist's campaign website he remains publicly opposed to the law, stating "Had I been in the United States Senate at the time, I would have voted against the bill because of unacceptable provisions like the cuts to the Medicare Advantage program.")

After the interview ran at noon today -- and the Rubio campaign started pushing it out to reporters with glee -- Crist clarified his position yet again. No, he said in a statement, I would not have voted for the health care law despite what I just said on TV.

"Apparently, based on an interview this afternoon, there may be some confusion regarding my position on health care," Crist says in the statement. " If I misspoke, I want to be abundantly clear: the health care bill was too big, too expensive, and expanded the role of government far too much. Had I been in the United States Senate at the time, I would have voted against the bill."

From Ed Kilgore (who may have seen Goldberg's "There ain't no anti-Muslim stuff going on!")
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In the welter of confusion and misinformation that has characterized the "ground zero mosque" brouhaha, it's kind of important to isolate the extent to which Americans actually seem to hate Muslims.

That's what Ron Brownstein's done in his latest column, and it's pretty clear there's a partisan and ideological split at play here:

'In a national Time magazine poll released last week, just under half of all Americans agreed that Islam is more likely than other faiths to promote violence against nonbelievers. But that number rose to 70 percent among Republicans and nearly three-fourths among conservatives. Fully 55 percent of all Americans said they believed that most U.S. Muslims are patriotic; but only 42 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of conservatives agreed. Perhaps most strikingly, 43 percent of conservatives and a 48 percent plurality of Republicans said Muslims should not be allowed to run for president. Only about one-fourth of Democrats and independents agreed.'

Muslims should not be allowed to run for president?

Then again, this is the same Time poll in which a plurality of Republicans said Barack Obama is a Muslim. So I guess in their view you can't have the First Amendment interfering with the God-given constitutional right to conservative rule. " http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2010/08/islamophobia_isolated.php#comments

I'm GLAD to see Democrats going negative on Republicans. There's a lot to go negative about. It is *exactly* the right way to campaign. Rip up those paper tigers!

And Greg, I doubt you have much control over this, but the right-wing trollery that infests the comment section (and every other comment section in the Post) really makes reading this blog less appealing than it should be. I've got no problem with argument, but this would be a much better read with the irrelevant screeds and the personal attacks weeded out.

JakeD2 also enjoys dropping hints that he might "yet" assassinate someone, and his biggest turn offs are: Muslims who love our freedoms, and the undocumented fetuses, who are behind most of the border drug violence.

"Perhaps most strikingly, 43 percent of conservatives and a 48 percent plurality of Republicans said Muslims should not be allowed to run for president."

And these are the people that supposedly cherish the US Constitution so much. I mean, seriously. It's one of the least ambiguous parts of the document: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

Speaking of Glenn Beck's blackboard (and yeah, MLK would have been on it -- given that Beck's entire rap is essentially just recycled John Birch Society effluvium from the 1960s and Birchers were very definitely convinced that Dr. King was a commie) something just occurred to me about our friendly troll KaddafiDelendaEst.

This would be easier with a blackboard but see if you can follow the logic:

Muammar (if I may be so familiar) is constantly calling someone a "Quisling."
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Quisling sounds like some kind of sandwich that you would get at a Quizno's sub shop.
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Quizno's sub shops ran a widely discussed commercial a couple years ago, featuring a naked man suckling a she-wolf.
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Muammar paraphrased the Latin slogan, "Carthago delenda est" (Carthage must be destroyed) for his handle in WP discussion forums.
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Latin was the language of the Roman empire.
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Romulus and Remus, the mythical founders of the Roman Empire, were nursed by a she-wolf.
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Ergo, Muammar is that naked guy in the Quizno's commercial.

John Cole points to the Really Good News in the Drown Government in Bathtub project...

"Fire departments around the nation are cutting jobs, closing firehouses and increasingly resorting to “rolling brownouts” in which they shut different fire companies on different days as the economic downturn forces many cities and towns to make deep cuts that are slowing their responses to fires and other emergencies." http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/us/27cuts.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&hpw=&adxnnlx=1282950099-Bkp+BMv+6rNQtZHQvpkW5Q

Weigel points to the ad that's been running at Weekly Standard for a couple of weeks hawking "refudiate!" T-Shirts... http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/08/27/refudiation-gear.aspx

"I believe these are T-shirts that celebrate a grammatical mistake by Sarah Palin. There's something you can say here about anti-intellectualism, but couldn't you spend your time more fruitfully by shooting fish in a barrel?"

Except that, of course, immediately following Palin's dunderheaded attempt to sport a vocabulary above her grade seven level, Bill Kristol jumped up to spin her as a contemporary Shakespeare. The T-Shirts are merely an extension of the proximate Big Lie.

@Bernie....I believe this is the first time in my many months on this blog to ever see you go to the Nazi card. Not that I don't understand but you and Kevin were the ones who showed me the way to civility and keeping out any hyperbole. Not that I always do, but I give you guys credit for trying. Sometimes I do fall off the wagon...like when you post

"AFA’s Bryan Fischer claimed that gay service members must continue to be expelled from the military because “the inescapable conclusion is that gay sex is a form of domestic terrorism.”

OMG Bernie...does that mean our friend SBJ is a domestic terrorist. SBJ's side thinks so highly of him. :-)

Glad to have you hanging around our humble get together. Yes the right wing trolls can be aggravating but we simply ignore them.

We have a few conservatives here who try to present facts and links to back up their observations...and then we have the tea partiers (who actually are plotting civil war not revolution) who operate in a fact free zone...davered...marybel...janet8 and others who are simply here to spout epithets without links or facts or logic to back up their lame opinions.

And then there is Special K...we simply feel sorry for him...he is incapable of an original thought and we pity the fact that he spends so much time cutting and pasting from fright wing blogs.

Having said all that, I think you'll find this blog largely devoted to issues..like two wars, the public option...tax cuts for the wealthiest amongst us. We value folks who can back their observations/opinions with some links of from credible sources.

The worst time here is when Greg gores a sacred ox..like the Tea party or glen beck...sometimes it gets linked to one of those fright wing sites who immediately send all their delusional losers to come over here and scream how awful Greg is and how we're all a bunch of fascists/socialist/communist bed wetters. Again people like clawrence are not intellectual enough to actually make a point...they are the guys out in the tea party new confederate rallies that scream meaningless prattle like "Palin will be arguably more effective tomorrow than Obama."

Not hardly Clawrence...in case you hadn't noticed the Wasilla Hillbilly fares better on Facebook and Twitter where she can post in tweet shorthand...that way she can't get busted for being such a dummie she has the vocabulary of an 8th grader. Don't know which will be more effective tommorrow..that screaching, whiny, awful voice that prevented her from utilizing her broadcasting major as a sportscaster..or laughing at how she mangles the English Language.

@ru - Actually, I've made a reference to Herr Schicklegrubber (and his times) now and again. Though let's be very clear that I've done it less often than the ADL. As much as I appreciate Godwin's injunction, there's no way one can avoid reference to all of that stuff not simply as a historical matter but because the related events do not exist in a vacuum of total uniqueness. There are, for example, clear parallelisms between the brewing anti-Muslim rhetoric now and what was going on in Germany during the 20s and 30s.

For those who've been watching the conservative movement for a while, Ralph Reed will be a familiar name. Seriously disgraced as a lying and greedy carpet-bagger pretending to be a good Christian, he had to disappear for a while. But over the last couple of years, I've seen his name appear here and there behind the scenes. He's getting more open now...
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025411.php

"..a staffer"... so this bozo admits that he not only doesn't KNOW what twitter is but that he has NO CLUE what his staff is saying about him.. This guy took great training from the Swag-Hag and now is putting to use..

KaddafiDelendaEst bears a striking resemblence to Concerned the Christian Now Liberated, a troll who fouled the blogs at OnFaith. If he is, he's gotten more evil-tempered, but the cut and paste routine is eeriely similiar. May God/Goddess grant you all patience.

By the way, "Omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est". How's that for obscure? ;-)

@CalD - not to put too fine a point on it, but I think it is the idea that Weigel finds "blisteringly stupid" (along with anyone who thinks it makes sense, of course). The speaker could be merely lying. But it's not a bad question in a way. Is Charles Manson stupid?

@Clarence12 - I'd recommend that you definitely do not go check out the emails and other records from Reed himself. You'd get upset.

As to your "If Palin tomorrow delivers the speech that wins her the White House, will you then admit that she was more effective than Obama?"... I suppose you'd could answer this question yourself through some parallel examples.

For instance, if a janitor at your local hospital slips into a green surgeon's outfit and commences surgery on your daughter would that make him more "effective" than the hospital's real surgeons?

Rukidding, you missed my point making fun of those of you like "bernielatham" who post off-topic and unsubstantiated character assassinations. And, here I thought you were trying to be the "civil" one?

Clawrence...WTF are you talking about. Do you seriously believe that Palin is going to make a speech tomorrow that is going to be so exciting, so effective, that it propels her into the W.H. in 2012. LMAO.

Clawrence do you currently reside in the U.S.? You do realize that independents have a large dislike for Palin...only 1/3 have a favorable opinion of her...50% have an unfavorable opinion of her. You do understand fractions and percentages..perhaps I'm confusing you by mixing...33% like Palin..50% DISLIKE HER!

"Fox host Chris Wallace cited recent polling numbers from Quinnipiac University that showed 50 percent of independents viewed the former vice presidential GOP nominee in an unfavorable light. Just a third said they viewed her favorably."

That's independents! Of course there are more registered Democrats than Republicans and we know the Dems hate Sister Sarah.

According to the Wall St Journal...Sarah's unfavorable ratings are more than double her favorable.

And then there's this from July...
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1478

American voters like Obama more than Sarah Palin, giving him a 49 - 45 percent favorability, while she gets a negative 35 - 49 percent.

Michelle Obama does much better, with a 55 - 19 percent favorability.

So clawrence...it will take a Glen Beck miracle for Sister Sarah to reverse what has been a steady slide of popularity with one speech tomorrow. Survey after Survey shows that the more Americans get to know the Wasilla Hillbilly the less they like her. This is precisely why she sticks to facebook, twitter, and fox...she realizes that she is such an airhead, with more and more Americans catching on to this charlatan that she is literally afraid to do a REAL interview. Her ignorance is simply stunning!!!!! Her fear is repugnant...she is no barracuda..anybody who is too freaking frightened to do a REAL press conference is more like a guppy than a barracuda.

ruk: "Clawrence...WTF are you talking about. Do you seriously believe that Palin is going to make a speech tomorrow that is going to be so exciting, so effective, that it propels her into the W.H. in 2012. LMAO."

pssst..ruk, they are nothing if not delusional. Let 'em enjoy their hallucinations in peace.

BTW...Does anybody remember the name of the guy who always shows up anytime Greg posts an item about Angle. He always claims Nevadans don't really care about all this talk about how wack she is....SORRY...

"Two-thirds of voters who say they back Sharron Angle wish another Republican had won the nomination, according to a poll for the Las Vegas Review-Journal and 8NewsNow that shows deep dissatisfaction with both the Tea Party pick and U.S. Sen. Harry Reid."

BTW For that whiner who always shows up when Greg posts another ridiculous or stupid thing to emanate from Angle's mouth..that poll and report was from a NEVADA newspaper and TV station...not a DC source.

Sue...you are correct. In three more weeks I'll be troll free. I'm headed to your beautiful state for a couple of weeks in the middle of nowhere on Lake Superior. No cellphones, no internet, no TV, OMG it's heaven!!!

I told my wife this evening about sharing her view with you about Lake Superior earning its name because it is after all Superior. I must confess Sue Lake Michigan is also gorgeous...Huron is nice...not so impressed by Erie and I haven't spent any time on Ontario.

Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder and so I'm sure there is something to see on all the lakes...but as the Native Americans and the poet Longfellow call it...Gitchee Gumee is indeed a special body of water.

Last year my wife and I arrived at our cottage so stressed that we sat looking out our window at the waves breaking on the massive conglomerate rocks...2 hours later we realized how long we had sat in silence simply staring at the lake. We also realized at how relaxed we had become.
Superior give me the most peace and the best high I have known.

Clawrence....no I apologize to you if you felt I was uncivil. I do regret questioning your understand of fractions and percentages...that indeed was a gratuitous cheap shot...so shame on me...mea culpa.

However the rest of the post was basically just polls that showed how far fetched it would be for Palin to pull off some miracle tomorrow. You like Palin. I get that. I despise her for all the lies and the hate.
During the campaign when she stopped about 15 minutes from where I live...she was ranting on about Obama and insinuating he was a terrorist when someone shouted out from the crowd..."Kill Him".

If you ask me I have to confess that I don't support returning hate for hate...but then again I simply have to say about my behavior..."Forgive me Father for I have sinned." Sorr Clawrence I truly look at demagogues like Palin, Gingrich, Bachmann and others as a true scourge upon our nation.

When I read posts and hear R's planning what to do if they regain the House and there is nothing said about helping our nation or my fellow neighbors and it's all about vengeance...gridlock...and one moron here even talked about impeachment...people who are talking about impeachment are simply traitors to our country. You are certainly free to disagree with Dem policies...then disagree with FACTS...not with socialist/Muslim/fascist yadda yadda yadda. Quisling Quisling Quisling...slave..slave..slave.LOL

BTW Clawrence since you are choosing to engage respectfully I certainly will return your respect and so I ask these two questions sincerely without snark.
1.) Do you believe Obama is a Muslim?

I haven't been on the road this year as much as the past five or so, but I've had the highest airline elite level for quite a few years now. In fact, some years I reach it by June. All very (not) glamorous.

"But note how this narrative obscures the humanitarian angle, and downplays the notion that governments have a responsibility to assist peoples beyond their borders. Our aid policy in the wake of this crisis should largely be constructed and justified based on a notion of shared humanity -- not merely on a narrow assessment of American interests. That Pakistanis are suffering and desiring of international aid should be enough to warrant our attention, our dollars, and our support." http://fpwatch.blogspot.com/2010/08/exploiting-flood.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+blogspot/xXIn+(Foreign+Policy+Watch)

Scott You do realize that Glen Beck did a whole bit about Obama accepting the Democratic nomination in a stadium.

Beck hosted Ben Stein who is purportedly an "intellectual" conservative...Beck of course not so much...but Beck was happy to have Stein on to say... "Seventy-five-thousand people at an outdoor sports palace, well, that's something the Fuehrer would have done"

Does that mean that Beck is conducting a version of the Nuremberg outdoor rally tomorrow? How can one come to any other conclusion. Bernie is simply reiterating what Beck and Stein have already aired.

Really Scott if you keep it up about Bernie's comment on a blog but are not concerned about Beck and his guest's comments on a very highly rated TV show, we are going to have to play the Hypocrite card on you.

Q.B. You have my sympathy...and some empathy although I don't travel nearly as much as you and so I can't really feel your pain.

I can imagine however in addition to all the security checks...small seats...unless you're one of those lucky guys who gets to fly up front because of your mileage...but what must really suck is the separation from your family. Have a great weekend.

"Our" warped response? Speak for yourself. What makes you think you have the slightest idea how anyone else is responding to it?

What is truly warped is the Bernie/liberal notion of compassion. Taxing the "bejesus" out of the wealthy so you can send OPM to those you favor, and then patting yourself on the back for your virtue. That's what is warped.

Yes, Scott. Billionaires who've made their money off tobacco and petroleum and war ought to be able to run three or four yaughts and a small fleet of jets and helicopters for personal use while we watch thousands die. Who says America ought not to emulate the moral vision of a shark?

@ruk: "I believe this is the first time in my many months on this blog to ever see you go to the Nazi card."

I think it was a point about how drawing large crowds is, in and of itself, not a meritorius accomplishment. That being said, Nazis are a really easy reach for such a comparison. That is, boring, IMO. The bi-partisan effort to assert everything we don't like us evocative of Nazi Germany strikes me as a failure of imagination on the part of all of us.

"Billionaires who've made their money off tobacco and petroleum and war....

And, of course, most of the "very wealthy" out of whom you are happy to tax the "bejesus" gained their wealth from tobacco and petroleum and war. Your ignorant (and I mean that in a very literal sense) bigotry is no different than the Islamaphobes you make so much of.

There certainly is "blind idiocy" on this board, but its source is not what you'd like to think.

"...ought to be able to run three or four yaughts and a small fleet of jets and helicopters for personal use while we watch thousands die."

You want to help the thousand who are dying? Then pull out your wallet or get off your a** and do something for them. Maybe learn a skill that would actually be helpful to them, or one that will earn you enough money to be able to buy them the help they need. But spare us the self-righteous complaints that "we" (which of course means not you but someone else) aren't doing enough. Again, you haven't the slightest idea what anyone else is doing to help others, and that includes the guy who made his money from tobacco or petroleum or war or any other endeavor that Bernie sniffs his nose at.

Get off your high horse and help, if help is what you desire for these people.

You should be fined for not having insurance because if you have an emergency and go to the emergency room, then you do not have the money for the bill, it gets charged to everyone else. Get medical insurance for your entire family at the best price from http://bit.ly/9fDY7U. By contributing to the pool and doing your part, overall costs come down. Its like stores that have to charge more because of all the theft. People go to the hospital and then not pay, it gets charged to everyone else.

"Eighteen months ago, many were moved to the streets by a belief that they had been not listened to by their representatives in Washington. (“How dare they ignore us?” reads a sign often seen at Tea Party rallies.) Now, encouraged by Tea Party leaders and people like Mr. Beck and Andrew Breitbart, whose BigGovernment.com is a source of news for many Tea Party supporters, they have adopted the language of the civil rights movement to describe their cause. Their sense of persecution has become a galvanizing force." http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/us/politics/28beck.html?hp

Aside from the numerous perversities re Beck as King or Freedom Works as grassroots etc, the adoption of civil rights language is not new. As Easton reports in "Gang of Five", Clint Bollick developed the strategy much earlier and it has been a fundamental (and successful) propaganda tool for the right for some two decades. Here's a bit on Clint (but pick up Gang of Five - used copies for a couple of dollars and it's essential reading) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Bolick

@Q.B. I tried to find it but failed. Could you either link it or cut and paste here for me. I appreciate that you took the time to compose it and I would like to see your thoughts.

@Bernie....I am 100% agreement with you about your observations of Broder. However I've switched to the nisleib school of kindness and have decided to not take shots at people who simply don't know any better.

I feel sorry for Broder. He is a dinosaur who doesn't realize he's well past retirement. Some thinkers/pundits can perform well into advanced age...others not so much.

As for Broder I'm not sure if he's stuck in the 70's or 80's or some other time before Gingrich led the R's into the party of no in the mid 90's...or whether he is literally losing his edge...his ability to think clearly...he is certainly not worthy of a national platform any longer...but because I too miss the days of bi-partisanship and civility...and because I too am growing older...I kinda feel sorry for him.

[Greg Sargent asked: "Maybe Kaddafi can enlighten us as to the acceptable size of the Mosque Exclusion Zone?"]

I've never advocated such a "Zone." The concept is a red herring. Nobody suggested removing the many mosques already dotting NYC. As has been stated and restated (repeatedly, ad nauseum) to the unassailably ignorant here, anti-jihadists folks are objecting (SPECIFICALLY) to the Islamo-supremacists of Cordoba House erecting a mega-mosque.

In fact, anti-jihadists are advocates for Secular Islam-- but don't hold your breath waiting for the Cordoba House cabal (and their jihadist financiers) backing these genuinely moderate secular Muslims.

I don't see why those very reasonable objections are so difficult for Bloomberg (and his Quislings for Cordoba) to apprehend. A super majority (70%) of Americans (both Muslim and non-Muslim) certainly seem to get it.

But being reasonable isn't really the objective of Quisling jihad advocates, is it Greg? Can we at least be honest about that?

Now that I've paid Greg the courtesy of responding to his silly red herring, will Greg ever publicly apologize to the secular Muslim NY Cabbie and his family for joining Bloomberg's campaign to incite pro-jihad mosque vigilantism?

It's past time to take a little ownership for Bloomberg's orchestrated Islamo-supremacist advocacy campaign.

What gets lost in all Greg's recent demogoguery is that the Muslim cabbie victim is himself a hateful hater, bigot, inauthentic, xenophobic, neanderthal-- at least, if you go by the criterion set out by Bloomberg (and his Quisling toadies in the media): Opposing the mosque is "Islamophobia"-- period. Right?

As an anti-jihadist, however, I’m inclined to observe that the Muslim cabbie’s pretty much consonant in his opinion of the Cordoba mosque with a super majority (70%) of his fellow Americans.

That Greg and the rest of Bloomberg's proteges will be disappointed to discover the opinion of this Muslim cabbie apostate tells you all you need to know about the two "sides" of this debate.

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