On ultra... I'm not sure but certainly would expect it to perform on high settings just fine. I basically have the same type of system but I use an older generation geforce gtx570. I run BF3 on high and get pretty good performance all round and in other games.

OK just to let you know a similar priced PC from umart is about $865 (build yourself, easy as pie).

The GPU is only said to be a 660ti, not sure what model exactly I'm assuming a lower end since they don't specifically say what it is.

Keep in mind if you want to buy windows 8 with that PC you need the 64bit version otherwise 4gb of ram is wasted, so add $115 to your price tag (Their price). Unless you plan on getting if gifted to you.

You are paying roughly $235 for them to build it for you and send it your way without a real OS.

That PC should be able to play Borderlands 2 at max, BF3 at max, Diablo 3 at max Witch at max settings or very close to it.

wut? you can build whatever you like for cheaper and it would have a better case, more ram, and better graphics card and most likely a SSD for that price.

But if your one of these people that just want something now and cbf building a better pc then yeah just get something like your ebay link and pay the premium for a lower performing pc.

edit:as for performance from a 660ti I would highly doubt you will get more than 45-50fps on bf3 multiplayer on ultra with no AA. People with higher end cards that are getting 60 and over will get you every time in twitch based fights.

yeah i agree whoop, after his last post i was like, man this has either got to be:

I'm suspicious of anyone who drops the name of the store in the first post. Usually people who come here asking for advice on what to buy, don't even know where to buy. Otherwise you'd just go into the store (or contact the online seller) and ask them which games the system would be capable of running.

edit: In case it is a genuine post

I think I will stick with a pre-built because of the value.

Usually that "value" comes from using the cheapest s*** possible. Especially power supplies and motherboards. The two things you DON'T want to cheap out on.

The value to me is pretty clear, and my selling point is a 2GB GTX 670, which to my knowlegde is better than the 660ti, and the8-core processor. For $1,068 this is awesome for my first gaming pc. (Second if you count my utterly worthless Toshiba laptop running a 315M.)

1. It doesn't tell you exactly what that GTX 670 is.
- Umart ranges from $399 to $589 for different models. Chances are if they don't say exactly what model it is in the advertising then it is on the lower end of the scale.

2. It doesn't say what Mobo it is using.
- It classes Asrock as a big brand. Asrock is a biggish brand budget mobo, not dissing them but come on. It says a H77 'not cheap b75' Motherboard specifications should be based on what you need/expect not to have a bunch of unused features.

3. It doesn't say specifically what RAM you are getting, again the prices for the same amount of RAM greatly differ. Assume cheapest.

4. HDD model is not named, it could be anything. Prices once again range. What model is it? Does it have a higher than normal return rate?

5. 'Gaming PSU' What the hell is that? You can get super big 750 Power supplies that output a maximum of 300watts across all 12V rails, there is no way of telling without knowing the exact model. PSU's greatly differ in price, performance and utility.

Bottom line is, if you want to drop 1 Grand on what seems to be a impulse buy, at least know what the exact models of everything is that you are purchasing.

tbh, most of the new i5's, a gtx660ti, and a solid mb, and PSU, will solve all

Ram, 4gb will do just about all you need, i run 12, but I've had the my rig running on 4gb, and it is honestly all you'll need

a rig like that isn't going to cost much, and youre going to get more enjoyment imo gaming with the parts you see and touch

spendin $800 on a solid rig, and $400 on a monitor you'll have more enjoyment, because it doesn't matter how good the parts youre using are, if youre unable to enjoy it (i for one would had to go back to the old 19" monitor)

tbh, most of the new i5's, a gtx660ti, and a solid mb, and PSU, will solve allRam, 4gb will do just about all you need, i run 12, but I've had the my rig running on 4gb, and it is honestly all you'll needa rig like that isn't going to cost much, and youre going to get more enjoyment imo gaming with the parts you see and touchspendin $800 on a solid rig, and $400 on a monitor you'll have more enjoyment, because it doesn't matter how good the parts youre using are, if youre unable to enjoy it (i for one would had to go back to the old 19" monitor)

I have a monitor. And surely what you listed (i5, 660ti,etc) isn't as good as the 2nd link I posted. But I see your point.

Multiple people here have told you better options, you insist on getting one of these 2 rip off pc's from the same ebay store yet you come back with ignorance or stupidity and spaming these links.
So what you can now do is f*** off from this forum and buy either one of those pc's that dont come with a operating system eeven though the ad's are spamming the s*** out of microsoft logos.

Im done with this guy. Its gotta be a scam or some idiot trying to get traffic to his ebay stuff.

Multiple people here have told you better options, you insist on getting one of these 2 rip off pc's from the same ebay store yet you come back with ignorance or stupidity and spaming these links. So what you can now do is f*** off from this forum and buy either one of those pc's that dont come with a operating system eeven though the ad's are spamming the s*** out of microsoft logos.

Im done with this guy. Its gotta be a scam or some idiot trying to get traffic to his ebay stuff.

I gave you brands before. It comes with Windows 7 too. I'm trying not to be ignorant. But my goal here is to get an opinion on the PC's that I have found and like.

Personally I think you should simply ask one of the locals here to help you build a parts list , just give them a cash limit and they'll most likely make something much better than these Ebay pre-built computers. It is very likely that the parts are the cheapest possible, and that they'll be putting a premium on the price for the "labour".

No wonder you don't want to do the fairly easy work to save $250+, you are probably gifted the $1000 and don't fully understand how much that is, so pfft $250 right?

If no-one in your family knows about PC's then go to a shop like Computer-alliance or something and buy it from the store, that way your mum/dad can take it back to the store if there are problems. An Ebay seller probably isn't the best option if you have problems and have no idea.

No wonder you don't want to do the fairly easy work to save $250+, you are probably gifted the $1000 and don't fully understand how much that is, so pfft $250 right?

If no-one in your family knows about PC's then go to a shop like Computer-alliance or something and buy it from the store, that way your mum/dad can take it back to the store if there are problems. An Ebay seller probably isn't the best option if you have problems and have no idea.

s***, when i was 13 my computer had a turbo button, pushing that bad boy to 25hz you have a few options as I see, you can get an all ready to go system doneor you could spend big on a few key parts that will last you a number of PC builds, (I had a lain li housing my main PC for 10years, and about 6 builds, great value, and now n use housing a media PC) think of it this way, have $1000 to spend on a new PC every 2 years you could build a good system now, that will run most things now or spend big on a top shelf case, PSU, and SSD, and a HDD. these things should last you at least 2-3 builds more if your look after it, and youre luckythe rest can be spend on descent parts that will blow a console out of the water, next build if the CPU is still ticking along, you can blow all $1000 on video card/s, (fyi a current gtx690 will be good at running all the top level games for the next 4-6 years!)and so-on, that way, when you hit uni, and will be poor and have not enough money for a upgrades, you'll have a really solid PC to see you thru till the money rolls in again

Hm. I see your point, and it's a good one. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Anyway, today I have to order something. If anyone has something better inside the $1100 budget, speak now.

Sounds to me like plenty of people offered suggestions for something better, but you're determined to buy from a dodgy ebay seller instead. Why bother coming to ask for advice when you've already made up your mind and aren't willing to listen to any suggestions?

hey guys I value your opinion so what do you reckon of this computer?lol nah I'm 13 and I know everything, you old f*** know nothing, I'm getting it anywayhttp://i.imgur.com/u03yh.jpg

I'm not surprised at the people that take me for granted. I genuinely value your opinion while you assume that I think that you're all 'old f***' and know nothing. From what I've seen, you guys know a considerable amount. So stop taking me as a d***.

Sounds to me like plenty of people offered suggestions for something better, but you're determined to buy from a dodgy ebay seller instead. Why bother coming to ask for advice when you've already made up your mind and aren't willing to listen to any suggestions?

I have looked at every suggestion, and It seems that the eBay one is better value. Can you suggest something?

Drop the i7 and get an i5 3570 for $202, you won't see much of a performance difference between the two processors and none at all in games.

With the money you save on that get a Samsung SSD, you will see a massive performance increase with an SSD. You only need one big enough to fit the OS and a few games on it, keep all your media files and porn on the 1TB HDD.

I'd personally pull back on spending $400 on a video card and get a mid ranger at $200-250 range and get the i5 and save some more. That is a good $300+ savings that could go towards a Samsung 830 series SSD (excellent value, I got one). Then you have $150-200 to spend on a couple of games to play on your new rig or save for another day.

Getting high end computer parts is rarely cost effective, as is getting low end s***. Mid range is the best bang4buck.

Getting high end computer parts is rarely cost effective, as is getting low end s***. Mid range is the best bang4buck.

I usually just spend a bit on it up front and then not have to upgrade for ages. Other people like to go the lower end stuff and do smaller upgrades as time goes by. I think in the end as long as you're not paying $10,000 for the PC then all is well (I've seen some people in games claim their PC cost that much).

I have a 7950 and even that cops a hammering from Far cry 3. 670 is a solid card and will future proof you fairly well. That being said for a little bit less a 660ti would be a good card aswell if you are running 1920 x 1080

I've even compared the 660ti and the 670, which was my first preference. I like the 670 better, because I've seen a man's Borderlands 2 gameplay with the 670 and said that his highest was 161 FPS, and lowest was 51. Seems pretty great.

I would suggest a stronger PSU. If that's the one coming packed in with the case, chances are it might have issues with all the kit going in.

I'm using an Antec Earthwatts 650w and it does my old power-hungry 580 just fine, should be good for your setup. Bit more expensive for that, though someone else can probably recommend a cheaper and similarly suitable PSU for your rig.

I would suggest a stronger PSU. If that's the one coming packed in with the case, chances are it might have issues with all the kit going in.I'm using an Antec Earthwatts 650w and it does my old power-hungry 580 just fine, should be good for your setup. Bit more expensive for that, though someone else can probably recommend a cheaper and similarly suitable PSU for your rig.Other than that, should be screaming fast :)

I can't afford anything more. Even $1195 is stretching my budget. I am damn happy with it thoug.

+1 to getting a better PSU. Its all good to be pulling 160 fps in Borderlands 2, but guess how many fps you'll be pulling when your cheapass PSU shorts out and takes the motherboard and/or video card with it?

After researching benchmarks - 670 vs 5850, it seems that the 670 is superior.

No doubt, it's a generation or two newer. Point is you don't need to spend 400 on a video card to play those games at a decent rate. As khel said you're PSU is going to cause a whole bunch of stability problems and will s*** out with the possibility of taking other components with it.

and a wish to see the computer go up in smoke it seems. Power supplies are the one thing you DON'T want to cheap out on. Hard drives die and take your porn with it, ram dies and crashes windows, video cards die and make everything look like candyland. Replace the faulty item and you're back in business reasonably cheap (usually).

you could even save $65 from that because he wont need that cooler unless hes going to overclock, which he wont need to do, and even if he does the standard intel coolers these days can handle a slight overclock with no drama.

I don't see the problem with the PSU. 450 might be a little low but the nvidia cards are supposed to be really efficient and he isn't loading it up with a lot of HDD's or overclocking anything. It's a Thermaltake PSU so it's not going to be completely unreliable.

I don't see the problem with the PSU. 450 might be a little low but the nvidia cards are supposed to be really efficient and he isn't loading it up with a lot of HDD's or overclocking anything. It's a Thermaltake PSU so it's not going to be completely unreliable.I'd probably spend an extra $3 and get Thermaltake VO700A1N3N Versa II USB3.0 Tower Case with 500W PSU for $72 for a larger PSU and USB 3 front ports.

I don't see the problem with the PSU. 450 might be a little low but the nvidia cards are supposed to be really efficient and he isn't loading it up with a lot of HDD's or overclocking anything. It's a Thermaltake PSU so it's not going to be completely unreliable.I'd probably spend an extra $3 and get Thermaltake VO700A1N3N Versa II USB3.0 Tower Case with 500W PSU for $72 for a larger PSU and USB 3 front ports.

The problem with the PSU is in almost every instance, the pack-in PSU's are barely a step above generics. There's usually a reason why they're happy to sell a case AND a PSU for the price of a decent PSU, it's because it's cheap.

you could even save $65 from that because he wont need that cooler unless hes going to overclock, which he wont need to do, and even if he does the standard intel coolers these days can handle a slight overclock with no drama.

Trust me. You need an aftermarket cooler. I had the stock cooler on for about a day and even at stock speeds it's s***house.

The problem with the PSU is in almost every instance, the pack-in PSU's are barely a step above generics. There's usually a reason why they're happy to sell a case AND a PSU for the price of a decent PSU, it's because it's cheap.

You'd be forgiven for not giving a rats about the case, but the budget should always be large enough for a decent PSU. Definitely something to reflect on when you're sitting there after the cheap piece of junk blows and fries everything along with it.

Honestly though, find a friend or relative who knows how to put a PC together (or maybe even just find a bunch of instructional videos on YouTube about it or something), get them to take you through it once or twice and it'll open up a whole world of building, upgrading, overclocking, and best of all never having to pay for labour or overpriced pre-built systems ever again.

Looks pretty good Harlequin! Glad to see you came around in the end.Honestly though, find a friend or relative who knows how to put a PC together (or maybe even just find a bunch of instructional videos on YouTube about it or something), get them to take you through it once or twice and it'll open up a whole world of building, upgrading, overclocking, and best of all never having to pay for labour or overpriced pre-built systems ever again.

I must admit I am damn pleased with it. I may or may not switch from Xbox to PC. Goodbye 36190 gamerscore!

maybe you'll progress from being a gamer to working on developing the next-gen games if you have that interest?

Sure wish I'd have had the chance to get stuck into it with all the possibilities that the software and hardware nowdays seems to promise.

Have a look at something like the 'Make Something Unreal' promotions or just see if WetWired pops up every now and then around here to see what it's like getting creative work in games.

It's probably a bit OT, but it seems to me if you have the gaming interest from such a young age and you have a bit of creative nack you could really do well if you discovered development and not just gaming consumption (seems like you come from a console introduction to it)

maybe you'll progress from being a gamer to working on developing the next-gen games if you have that interest?

Sure wish I'd have had the chance to get stuck into it with all the possibilities that the software and hardware nowdays seems to promise.

Have a look at something like the 'Make Something Unreal' promotions or just see if WetWired pops up every now and then around here to see what it's like getting creative work in games.

It's probably a bit OT, but it seems to me if you have the gaming interest from such a young age and you have a bit of creative nack you could really do well if you discovered development and not just gaming consumption (seems like you come from a console introduction to it)

Well, I intend to become a games journalist, mostly because I think I am a good writer. I have a blog, which I haven't updated in a month because my laptop is mentally unstable with a BSOD. Here it is: