jmcdow2792Jul 25, 2013

Hokie and cjw, just an additional thought. Without the larger conference, we don't get a conference play off game. If all the conferences had playoff games, couldn't that be a natural addition to the play off system. The conferences establish their champions then these play off to determine the national championship. Not advocating anything, just adding to the conversation.

VT1994HokieJul 24, 2013

^^^^ I have to agree with cjw6105 for just about all that he has written. Firstly. It's all about huge monies. With 10 teams all teams could play each other two times in football as this is a given. Ten teams wouldn't last long though, IMO. I wrote on here when all of this came to the fore, that WVU should have been in before Cuse. Who will want to go up there to this place? I surely don't like ND with all of their manipulating leadership. They are milking this thing for all that it's worth. But. Boy, the ACC is going to become rich with all of the TV revenues now. We're one of the big boys now. Swofford wasn't the power guy when Virginia Tech came into the ACC. The powerful Governor of the State of Virginia was the man that made this happen.

jmcdow2792Jul 24, 2013

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"When State played them in Columbia (4 ? years ago) it was obvious that the game plan was to knock Russell Wilson out of the game. Late hits and hits out of bounds on Russell accomplished that by half time with no penalities called. Just saying what I saw. "

I agree - it was a very dirty game. I completely lost my respect for Spurrier at that time.

— Posted by davidgnews

A big part of the reason I dislike SEC football. I have even seen SEC vs SEC games where it appeared that the favored team got all the calls and no calls. I think it is done to promote the conference even if one of it's own has to suffer. Just my opinion.

davidgnewsJul 24, 2013

&quot;When State played them in Columbia (4 ? years ago) it was obvious that the game plan was to knock Russell Wilson out of the game. Late hits and hits out of bounds on Russell accomplished that by half time with no penalities called. Just saying what I saw. &quot;

I agree - it was a very dirty game. I completely lost my respect for Spurrier at that time.

cjw6105Jul 24, 2013

jgunn, I'd rather be an independent than absorb what's coming our way. As a Wolfpack lifetime rights ticket holder, I'm not thrilled as you can tell. All this talk about how great expansion was, but one ACC division (the Blues' division) gets Virginia Tech and Miami each season, and we're stuck with Boston College, plus we have to go through Clemson and FSU just to win our division.

Now, the latest round of expansion brings Syracuse to our division, whoopee doo! We can't play longtime rivals Duke, Georgia Tech, and UVA but once every 6 years or so in football.

In short, I don't see anything positive here for Wolfpack sports, especially in basketball, where we'll again get short-shrifted in scheduling. It's already apparent what's going on when Clemson, WF and VT aren't even allowed to participate in next season's ACC-B1G Challenge, being dumped for 3 teams who have never played a single ACC game. Who decided that?

It's all about money, and believe me, they're going to need plenty more of it. The ACC was already too big when we had 12 teams; 8 would have suited me and a lot of fans just fine. This league would have been at its best with 10 teams: the Big Four, FSU, GT, Clemson, UVA, VT, and WVU. This way, you could play EVERY conference opponent each season in football, every basketball league opponent twice, State and UNC baseball could have 2 series each season and not only one. Now, we're stuck with the likes of scandal-ridden Miami, BC, Syracuse, BC, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame as a partial member only.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still what it is. Please quit telling me that we're on the right track.

jmcdow2792Jul 24, 2013

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And if State were playing them, Wolfpack Stew would be on the menu:-) It's a tough game to start the season, I'm not denying that.

— Posted by StunGunn

When State played them in Columbia (4 ? years ago) it was obvious that the game plan was to knock Russell Wilson out of the game. Late hits and hits out of bounds on Russell accomplished that by half time with no penalities called. Just saying what I saw.

All the early games are going to be interesting. I think Carolina has a good shot at winning. Clemson and Miami have a good chance. The VT game is going to be really interesting to see if they (VT) can keep it close. A split would be good given that the opponents are four of the top SEC teams.

Obamacare rulesJul 24, 2013

I suggested that they name the royal baby Trayvon.

mac240Jul 24, 2013

I hope the ACC teams don't try prove a point by running the ball up the middle all day and I don't want them to play gimmicky football either.

StunGunnJul 24, 2013

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Those Clucking Chickens from Columbia will have Lamb Chops for dinner. It will be a bad start to the season.

— Posted by jdupree

And if State were playing them, Wolfpack Stew would be on the menu:-) It's a tough game to start the season, I'm not denying that.

StunGunnJul 24, 2013

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I'll continue pulling for the Wolfpack, but I'm done rooting for the ACC. I never pulled for the Big East, and I'm not about to start.

Swofford's ACC, Big Money's ACC, not MY ACC. Not any more. If State's not playing, I will root hard against this monstrosity of a league.

And I hope all of you who truly believe that Swofford has saved the ACC are happy when the ACCT gets uprooted to the Big Apple. And I hope you're happy when Big Four teams are replaced on your team's schedule by Syracuse, Pitt, BC, or whoever comes next- UConn?

— Posted by cjw6105

cjw - I don't like the new ACC, but it's better than having no ACC. The Swoff did what he had to in order to keep the ACC viable. I hate that the storied rivalries are being torn apart, and the divisions could have been arranged better than they are now, to keep some of those rivalries alive, IMHO. I'll still pull for the ACC, Heels first, then the Big Four, then the rest of the ACC.