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Mix up alert! Photo 14 was the one that chirps posted, I thought you meant that one Andrew, my fault. The other one @9:34 from candyfloss seems to have a white/light pink child's t-shirt hanging over the railings but I've no clue as to when that one was taken. It is interesting though.

There were some couple years back that infact spoke about this contamination of garden area and slight cotact with cadaver scent . I think the idea was it could have come from a bucket of water after a good clean had taken place ,and water tipped over veranda,that could be a stronger contamination I would think . joyce1938

Forgetting for a moment the actual photos (as it would be incredible if a camera had precisely captured the actual pyjama top drying), is it possible that after washing the top was hung out to dry either over the veranda wall or on the clothes-horse shown by Chirpy on the veranda?

Cadaverine contaminated water both dripped onto the veranda and over onto the flowerbed, thus reflecting the intensity of the scents indicated by Eddie?

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Dee Coy wrote:Forgetting for a moment the actual photos (as it would be incredible if a camera had precisely captured the actual pyjama top drying), is it possible that after washing the top was hung out to dry either over the veranda wall or on the clothes-horse shown by Chirpy on the veranda?

Cadaverine contaminated water both dripped onto the veranda and over onto the flowerbed, thus reflecting the intensity of the scents indicated by Eddie?

I really don't know if it is possible, Dee Coy. Just how easy is cross contamination? Cuddle cat for me would be the one item handled and distributed around all over the place. If cadaver odour spreads upon contact then surely Eddie would have indicated everywhere?

Looking at the articles the pictures posted earlier are from and it is interesting seeing Rebelo going through a scenario and I wonder if the veranda/balcony is actually just a very brief place the body was (e.g. Gerry placing her there while dealing with JW) or where an accident/incident occurred leading to death (moved after a few minutes/15 minutes hence only interest from Eddie).

Maybe an idea would be to try various specific sceanrio's where a lot of the 'noise' is removed and we could focus just on that to see where it leads? We could try just cadaver alerts and then blood alerts and see where each go?

joyce1938 wrote:There were some couple years back that infact spoke about this contamination of garden area and slight cotact with cadaver scent . I think the idea was it could have come from a bucket of water after a good clean had taken place ,and water tipped over veranda,that could be a stronger contamination I would think . joyce1938

TheTruthWillOut wrote:Looking at the articles the pictures posted earlier are from and it is interesting seeing Rebelo going through a scenario and I wonder if the veranda/balcony is actually just a very brief place the body was (e.g. Gerry placing her there while dealing with JW)

I don't recollect a lot of talk about that garden ,Maybe as so much really good results came from inside ,the small amount found outside ,was not so relevant. I was on mcf at one time ,and it was all dissciuused so much at one stage . A couple were well informed all about dna etc . its hard to recall ,but I know kept us all asking a lot of questions areally long thread. Same with the phonecalls ,never heard antwhere since to such a degree, Maybe chateliene can recall ?she was there also .No disrespect to any other forums ,over this . joyce1938

The size of the pinky colour on wall area ,far to big to be small light top of such small kid .we wont be able to pinpoint a day ,I would think . I do recall that a very small bit of dna ,can be detected even in sand , the right dog will sense it .joyce1938

I also recall that ,the car fob that had been contaminated ,was put into a glassjar and buried in I think a bucket of sand ,and was identified at the garage place where the cars was held when the dogs were use .Dog recognised emmediatly. joyce1938

Dee Coy wrote:Forgetting for a moment the actual photos (as it would be incredible if a camera had precisely captured the actual pyjama top drying), is it possible that after washing the top was hung out to dry either over the veranda wall or on the clothes-horse shown by Chirpy on the veranda?

Cadaverine contaminated water both dripped onto the veranda and over onto the flowerbed, thus reflecting the intensity of the scents indicated by Eddie?

In answer to where the pj top was hung to dry

She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.

Dee Coy wrote:Forgetting for a moment the actual photos (as it would be incredible if a camera had precisely captured the actual pyjama top drying), is it possible that after washing the top was hung out to dry either over the veranda wall or on the clothes-horse shown by Chirpy on the veranda?

Cadaverine contaminated water both dripped onto the veranda and over onto the flowerbed, thus reflecting the intensity of the scents indicated by Eddie?

In answer to where the pj top was hung to dry

She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pyjama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it out to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; nevertheless the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.

Dee coy said" Did you find the small stand yourself, yesterday, Chirpy?

This stain... In view of what Dr Martin has revealed? Are the pieces coming together?

_________________Not quite sure what you're asking here. I had been looking through photos posted earlier and remembered that there was a clothes airer on the terrace/veranda/balcony, so yes I did find it myself.

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Here's an interesting thing. Kate must have packed 3 sets of pj's for M.

The McCanns still cling to the hope that their daughter is still in Portugal, which is why they intend to keep their base in the country. And when they moved to an apartment near to the one from which Madeleine was abducted, they unpacked their missing daughter's clothes, too, laying out her pyjamas on what would have been her bed.

But the McCanns say the fluids probably came from Madeleine's unwashed pyjamas and sandals which were carried in the boot when the family was moving apartments.

So we have Eeyore set whooshed, clean set on bed and unwashed set in boot. One of tjose sets must be the long sleeved Barbie ones Kate wished M had been wearing. Wonder which ones John Mac was referring to that Kate dressed Amelie in.

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