Well, considering I've only flown once in my life, it pretty much doesn't affect me. If someone voted for this current group that are in control of the House, then they need to wait at LEAST twice as long to give them time to think.

Exception Collection: ...I left out the most important part. The Romney tax break is for the dancing horse.

Let me just say this - unless you sign on the line that says 'Preparer' for Romney you have merely an idea of what he SHOULD pay based on your biases and any publicly available knowledge to which you subscribe. Most of us tend to only hold on to that info that aligns with our biases. For all you and I know (again, unless you sign as a Preparer) he shuns these deductions when he files. I sure as hell wouldn't, but that doesn't mean he can't 'fail to claim' them.

\Can I get a deduction for dancing whores? It's kinda close...

Isn't Romney one of the politicians that said something like "Only an idiot would pay one penny more in taxes than they had to"? I seem to reme ...

This'll be a great big non-post in reply, but I truly don't know. It wouldn't surprise me. One thing that rarely comes up in tax discussions is the 'cost of compliance' figure. They estimate it will take every household in America an average of 24 hours of effort to prepare their taxes. It takes time and money to find and properly claim deductions. If the deduction was small enough and the cost to document and claim it high enough, I'd pay the higher rate. My time costs money and I've got too much shiat to do already.

/why am I still on FARK?//Oh, that's right! I'm as lazy as I can get away with...

DROxINxTHExWIND:keden74: My husband is an ATC that will be let off without pay due to this ridiculousness. Despite the very real economic impact it will leave on our family, we are even angrier that they have not even looked at reforming well-known chronically abused entitlements such as welfare. Along the same lines, why cut our teachers? Half of American kids can't even read. And why is Congress getting a RAISE during all this? Congressmen and senators make $174,000 a year and will see an extra $900 in their annual pay packages before taxes next year. Maybe they should forfeit it too.

You think that welfare is to blame for your current situation? Do you realize that the money that Mitt Romney should pay in taxes is reduced by $77,000.00? How many welfare queens do you think we need to round up to eliminate $77k of waste? This is just ONE deduction being taken by ONE rich person. How much more money is (to use your logic) stolen from the system instead of being given to teachers or to your husband? You have to understand, the strategy is to get people like you and me to fight over cruumbs while the rich sit back comfortably pulling money from the treasury without the stigma attached.

You sound jealous and stupid. He pays more that his fair share and more than you ever will. How about my friedns sister who has no job, 4 kids, on the welfare, and is set to recieve $9000 in "refund" from IRS after paying nothing in. Maybe if you put your energy into bettering yourself and not crying about what others have you may be happier... then again you strike me as a perpetual victim and would be lost without be jealous of what others have.

/Alls I'm saying is - it's all too damn complicated, the Rent Is Too High, and everyone has an agenda - I just try to be up front with mine - and that they're all lying to us. Not just Fox and MSNBC - each party is lying and I'm farking done with it.//Tightens onion onto belt and resumes yelling at clouds///Hates partisanship when put ahead of true progress

jpk_ks:They say 22 hours and I can't find anywhere if they're including State and Local time in that.

I can't find any cite or support for their number - I cited my primary source.

Partisans count on the lazy and ill informed bravely declaring a pox on both houses and dropping out. Every voter too disgusted to vote increases the value of the partisans who faithfully show up. Reality's a biatch.

Surpheon:jpk_ks: They say 22 hours and I can't find anywhere if they're including State and Local time in that.

I can't find any cite or support for their number - I cited my primary source.

Partisans count on the lazy and ill informed bravely declaring a pox on both houses and dropping out. Every voter too disgusted to vote increases the value of the partisans who faithfully show up. Reality's a biatch.

I'm certainly not dropping out, just done being lied to. The number you reference pertains to filling out the forms. The article I reference calls out the IRS's 2012 estimate of 22 hours

jpk_ks:The article I reference calls out the IRS's 2012 estimate of 22 hours

I linked directly to the IRS estimate document at irs.gov the article "calls out". MSN has their number - which is stated with no link or explicit cite - wrong. For a cynic, you have a weird resistance to recognizing a news site story is wrong on the facts.

wildcardjack:For some reason I studied and learned to be an Air Traffic Controller. Lo and behold the entire time I was training the FAA wasn't authorized as an agency and wasn't hiring controllers. I get my CTO license the same month the FAA get reauthorized, about 90 days before my 32nd birthday when I become too old for the FAA.

I've felt bitter towards the people that told me to go study ATC, and walked out on that private student loan and I think they've let it go because I'm not part of the lawsuits. But this whole sequester mess makes me glad I don't have a federal job. I think it might even be full on schadenfreude.

And yet a history degree is considered to be "wasting your time." Funny thing is that I've parlayed mine into two different careers (IT and journalism) in 25 years.

Now all I have to do is figure out what I'm going to do for the next 25 years.

Controller #3: Get me Steve McCroskey!Controller #2: Are you kidding? Ever since Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, he's been completely senile!Controller #3: Yeah, but what about McCroskey?Controller #2: About the same as Reagan.

Surpheon:jpk_ks: The article I reference calls out the IRS's 2012 estimate of 22 hours

I linked directly to the IRS estimate document at irs.gov the article "calls out". MSN has their number - which is stated with no link or explicit cite - wrong. For a cynic, you have a weird resistance to recognizing a news site story is wrong on the facts.

Surpheon:jpk_ks: The article I reference calls out the IRS's 2012 estimate of 22 hours

I linked directly to the IRS estimate document at irs.gov the article "calls out". MSN has their number - which is stated with no link or explicit cite - wrong. For a cynic, you have a weird resistance to recognizing a news site story is wrong on the facts.

Alright - have it your way. Here's a study done by the IRS back in the good old tax days of 2003:

On page 20 or so it shows the average hours spent to prepare taxes at 25.5 hours. Happy? Yeah, it's not 2012 or 2013 - fine - but taxes have only gotten more complex since then in my opinion. Sorry to not meet your standards as a sceptic - sometimes it's easier to look through the results on a few google searches to gather a consensus (the 'they say...' fallacy, if you will). I too prefer original sources, but I can only devote so much time to things that I'm not paid to do.

/Can we just go back to making Airplane jokes or cracks about the fact that Janet Napolitano saw Kurt Warner's wife's haircut and said to herself - 'Now THAT's the look for me?'//I'm sorry I ever brought it up.