**anonymous used "*roll picture*"****anonymous rolled image** why cant the American legal system be that strict on most criminals. I mean we got death row inmates that sit there for years before execution

Picture a scenario where that man is actually innocent. Whether they had the wrong guy that looked similar and was at the wrong place/wrong time or the kid was lying or someone was trying to frame him.

Well the law puts innocent people behind bars for life all the time. The law doesn't always work. And honestly, I have a hard time seeing how justice is served for rapists and killers who get to wake up everyday to three square meals on the taxpayers dime.

It doesn't always work but that's only because nothing can be perfect in this world because the closer we get to order the more our subconsciousness wants chaos. Guilty men go free. Innocent men are punished. The system does the best it can with humans being in charge of it.

That being said, if you're a vigilante and you know for a fact that someone has committed a heinous crime, the system lets the criminal walk free, you kill the criminal, and no one ever finds out about it because you go free. Is that justice? To me, it is because it worked out well and only because it worked out well. If an innocent person got hurt or implicated because of it then it wouldn't have been justified.

I believe people as individual should have their priorities straight in this order: Family -> Friends -> Country -> Humanity.

This means you can sacrifice your humanity to protect your country: Soldiers can wipe out entire cities of innocent people in order to wipe out the idea another country has of attacking your own country.

This means you can sacrifice your country to protect your friends and family: you can break the law if it means protecting those closest to you.

And the difference between friends and family is just those closest to you. For some people, under the "family" category you will include friends and in the "friends" category you will include community/neighbors/extended family. Strangers are not included in Family or Friends. Strangers are included in "Country" if they belong to and support the country you belong to otherwise they are included in "Humanity" if they belong to or support another country.

Why is it important that we make this distinction? Because some people's version of "justice" is that nothing bad ever happens to people close to them and they could not care less about anybody else. The "system" works because it only cares about you as a fellow countryman. It doesn't care about you as family or friend.

You don't need to take credit for a deed for justice to have been served. It's about something bigger than that. And I won't argue that some people have warped versions of what they think justice should be. But take the case of Jessica Lunsford for example.

John Couey, a convicted sex offender with a criminal record of 24 arrests, snuck into the Lunsford household on an early February morning and abducted nine year old Jessica Lunsford from her bed while her parents were still sleeping. For over a week he kept her locked in his home and repeatedly raped her. The police even came by his trailer several times during the search for her, but despite it being legally okay for police to conduct searches of sex offenders homes anytime they please, they never did. At the end of the week he stuffed her in a garbage bag and buried her while she was still alive outside of his home. The police finally decided to search his property, but it was too late. He was arrested, but died of natural causes before his sentence could ever be carried out.

That's not justice. The system failed and it cost an innocent girl her life.

This guy assaulted multiple children before Jessica Lunsford, yet was allowed to walk amongst us consequence free to do it again. The police failed, and a little girl was tortured and murdered. She will never know what its like to hike a mountain, or scuba dive. She won't grow to experience boys chasing her in high school or driving a car for the first time. She won't see another sunset, or travel across the country. This man stole that from her. If a vigilante had stopped Court before he could snuff an innocent child, I would have shaked his hand.

The world isn't perfect, and it probably won't ever be. But it's a **** excuse to let something like this happen.

Lemme ask you this, how would a vigilante have known? If the police were too dumb to notice it with all the resources at their disposal, then how could a vigilante possible have stepped in and know what was happening

But okay, lets take your example and say a magical genius vigilante had done something, that is great and all, but what about the many times when a simple misunderstanding or false accusation can lead to chaos in one or several peoples lives, vigilanteism is acting without procedure, behaving in such a way to likely kill someone with no actual evidence, that is the problem with vigilanteism, it circumvents the system and could lead to people being killed over something they are falsely accused of (if you want an example of the hell that would occur if vigilanteism was common, watch the Danish movie The Hunt, after the primary schoolteacher Lucas is accused of an indecent act he never committed, almost by accident, the entire town comes down on him incredibly heavily, all because of the ripples that false accusations can make) and therein lies the problem. In the US, 8-10% of rape claims (easy example since vigilantes would likely kill over it) are proven to be false when taken to court, now, imagine that 8-10% of people accused of a crime were killed before they had the chance to go to court and be proven innocent... congrats mate, you used one example and a whole bunch of emotional language to suggest that people should go out there and kill even if they don't know the whole picture.

Tl;Dr NOT EVERY CASE IS AS BLACK AND WHITE AS YOUR SINGULAR EXAMPLE, SO MAYBE DON'T KILL OR ASSAULT PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A HUNCH

The point obviously went over your head. I'm not saying a Batman could have caved in the trailers roof and rescued Jessica. I am saying that this man commit heinous crimes countless times before hand and the evidence was already there that he was a leech to society. He could have been stopped BEFORE and that would have prevented Jessica's death.

And I've seen the movie, but I dont like arguing fiction to justify my point. There's a right way and a wrong to do things. Someone that goes and attacks another person based on hearsay is retarded and a **** example at a "vigilante". And I would agree with you that that is not okay. But, if you have irrefutable proof that someone is raping children, and the law ignores it, then vigilantism is justifiable and understandble.

Like I said previously, the law doesn't always work, and countless people have been imprisoned and executed that we're innocent all along. Does that mean I think law enforcement is obsolete? Of course not. They do indeed catch criminals. But they can't catch them all.

And like you said, the world isn't black and white, but it definitely sounds like you're taking a black and white approach to vigilantism.

I wasn't trying to argue fiction to prove a point, simply using it as a way to point out what it can be like.

And yes, if something could have been done sooner to crack down on him more harshly then that would have been terrific, but the justice system at the time was far too lenient, and has now in most places been amended to actually crack down on scum like that, handing out far longer sentences for some of his earlier acts. Ultimately I'm not trying to say it's black and white either, just using the same ott examples as you were, 1 case does not a ****** system make, and the small percent each year of people who are falsely accused and freed when the error is brought to light does not a flawless system make.

If you genuinely have irrefutable proof that someone is doing something and the police are actually doing nothing about it (not just being incompetent to a degree that a single phone call would fix, but genuinely turning a blind eye to it in a ****** "Chinese billionaire pays off the cops kinda way) then you're living in a ****** country and vigilanteism is the least of your worries, but if you're living in the first world and the police will do something with real evidence, then going through procedures is ALWAYS better than taking something into your own hands

I agree with some of what you're saying, but I'm guessing you're not American and aren't familiar with are laws. Our country is ****** right now mainly because a large portion of the populace is highly uneducated. In some states, like mine (Florida), we have what's called a "catch and release" justice system. That literally means how it sounds. The police catch violent offenders and release them in a short amount of time. Mainly because they can't afford house all of them. The article,in linking is Commiefornia, but there are many states following in their footsteps.

And again, I agree that not all situations are the same. But of course. I'm using one situation to validate my point of thinking. I could spend all year citing events that mirror Jessica Lunsford, but I think one is enough. You could easily cite as many case where the system did work, but the problem is some people slip through the cracks.

I'm not telling people to go hunt pedophiles or other criminals. What I am saying though, is that since 90% of pedophiles that are released do it again, I would completely understand if vigilantism (if proper evidence is procured) did take place

Of course it wouldn't be just because the damage isn't equal. If Country A wants Country Bs total destruction, Country B learns of this, and Country B completely wipes out Country A, is it justified? By the very definition of the word, it is NOT justified. That is why our humanity is not more important than our country because if it was, self defense would not exist, only vengeance would exist. If we let you be in charge and have a "just" war we would lose a soldier for every soldier we kill. I got good news for you though, you can continue being a pussy in a country with stronger people than you who will defend unjustly killing millions while losing 0.

You can continue feeling good about yourself but I can tell you right now that almost all cowardice hides behind morality.

So anyone can have their own ideas of what justice is?
So if I think it's just to cook a baby in a microwave if I believe that it's the antichrist I can do so because it goes with my perception of what is moral or ethical?

10-30 years in jail is not living. jail for any extended amount of time is NOT some fantasy land where your happy and set. sure you get to open your eyes every day, but hey, atleast you have potential fear of other inmates, intense dperession on a day to day basis, and absolutely 0 meaning to life (thats the type of **** that drives people insane) , but hey, atleast the food is extremely cheap mash that poor people wouldnt even eat.

also its not on the taxpayers dime, the criminal justice system is a multimilion dollar cash flow, rather than being angry that the person is costing the people money, be angry with how the system works, the fact that we specifically pay private institutions insane amounts of money to produce items that are related to jailing people, and to private correction facilities based on how long the person is kept there, well over what would be necessary to feed the person, and pay the workers, oh and lets not forget the tax breaks they get, so now they dont even put money back in.

all this leads to lobbying, and pushes to pass laws that put MORE people in jail for longer periods of time so they can get rich off of it.

You've been watching too much shawshank redemption dude. Besides a handful of prisons in the country, like supermax, most are a pretty relaxed time. My best friend used to work at the local prison here and unknowns to the public, the prison has the nickname "Camp Cupcake" because they have pizza parties and play videogames all the time. People have the misconception that rape runs rampant thanks to hollywood. And though it does happen, most sex is consensual. As for other types of assaults, they do happen too. But every year there are less and less thanks to the different ways they are housing offenders (e.g. separating gangs, sex offenders) and the increase in surveillance.

As for how private prisons make money, your half right. The government contracts these prisons and pays them whats called a "stipdend". This is a predetermined set of money given to help with expenses. Money from the government=taxpayer money.

And like you started to touch base on, a lot of times these private prisons are the ones setting the rules in the contracts. Some states have in their contracts that a particular prison has to have 90-100% occupancy at any given time. Police actually have a quota of people the need to arrest. So instead of focusing on who is breaking the law in a way that's detrimental to the saftey and well being of the public, we have police harrassing citizens and making arrests for something they could have easily wrote a citation for.

And youre completely right about some prisons lobbying to keep certain things illegal. According to the Boston Phoenix, CCA spent more than $2.7 million from 2006 through September 2008 on lobbying for stricter criminal laws and mandatory sentencing terms, in order to generate prisoners. They have also spent over a million dollars trying to keep marihuana and other drugs illegal because they felt "it would hurt profit of these drugs were made legal". That's not how democracy. Is supposed to work.

Im aware that not all murderers and rapists go to the hardcore prisons, but the ones that dont usually arent the menaces to society, the ones who will only be a drain on a system, so im excluding them, i assumed you meant the worst of the worst.

Let’s suppose that it costs $100 per day to house a prisoner (assuming full capacity, including all administration costs), and the prison building can hold 1,000 inmates. A private prison can offer their services to the government and charge $150 per day per prisoner. Generally speaking, the government will agree to these terms if the $150 is less than if the prison was publicly run. That spread is where the private prison makes their money. from the first link you posted, my main argument was, (and im aware i contradicted myself, i was busy with other things, didnt mean to say taxpayer money doesnt go to housing and feeding these people) that; and while this is a hypothetical its pretty accurate, the amount of money actually going towards the person is incredibly low, (in any prison setting, not just supermax) the value of the services the inmates receive is near worthless, but the amount of money this article claims the average inmate ends up earning for the compound is absolutely huge.

(i dont know the validity of the article, im not that invested to do research to find out of its legit, i know its ****** debate practice but eh)

all i was really trying to say was dont take time to sit up at night worrying about the scum who end up living terrible lives on your tax dollar, worry about why so much of the tax that goes to it just ends up lining the pockets of some morally corrupt cunt instead of helping inmates who could live productive lives in society

But the system doesn't work that way. I go into further detail in comment >>#209 about things like catch and release justice systems and laws like proposition 47 where the government has reduced violent felonies to misdemeanors. People have this misconception of how the system works thanks to television. Reality is much colder.

As for your point about costs, that is irrelevant. These people are still living on the taxpayers dime regardless if it's cheap or not. For example, if someone were to rape and murder my wife and then go to prison, I hardly see where justice is being served when it's my money being spent giving this scum three meals a day and a bed to lie in after doing something to horrendous.

regardless of what i say your going to feel how you feel, thats apparent, and now i see youve basically had the same conversation below.

you seem to be mistaken on how proposition 47 works. proposition 47 specifically targets petty criminals whom are preforming specifically non-violent crimes usually related to minor monetary gain (under 950$) or personal drug usage, and only allows it to default to a misdemeanor if they have no prior felonies, and pass a "thorough review” that determines if they are a threat to the public. it essentially allows people to potentially live a life where one bad decision doesn't define them for the rest of their life

I fail to see your point, the criminal justice system DOES work that way, but hey, maybe there's something i don't know about proposition 47 that just lets genuine menaces to society run free to go and rape your daughters and kill your lover.

If your problem isnt the amount of money going to holding these people (which in my opinion it should be) but the fact that any money is going towards it than i don't think you get how a system like ours is supposed to work.. Your right, Reality is much colder. if a man raped and murdered your wife, your going to learn to deal with the fact that your money is "housing" and feeding him, because the world isnt black and white, guilty and innocent. He deserves the right to live, to be allowed to be set free if at a further date its proven that he was innocent. you cant undo an execution. thats how cold the world is, that you have to stare him in the eyes as hes taken away from the court room and accept that the government doesn't give a **** what happened, or about your emotions.

Honestly? and this is just me putting it plainly, you seem intelligent enough, atleast moreso than alot of mongs on this site can be, but it seems like you just want to complain, the system works so that people can be given a chance and equality, im sure you dont need me to use the whole "5 guilty men go free before 1 innocent is incarcerated", im sure its been overused towards you by other at this point, but it stands. at the end of the day NOTHING can be 100% proven. witnesses can be paid/convinced that something happened that didn't, evidence can be gotten rid of or changed, people can be framed, and to prevent unjust punishment, you cant just go and kill everyone that might be a drain on the government. I mean part of the government and how it works is understanding that certain things have to be a certain way, regardless of weather you like it or not, and that if you were on the other end of the situation, you would receive the same punishment, i mean imagine if in that situation you were convicted but you were innocent? you sure would be thanking that theres not a death penalty.

there is no such thing as justice, justice cant be served, atleast not truly, all you can do is accept that and attempt to prevent unnecessary punishment

Try watching one American action movie and make an estimate of property damage and potentially fatal accidents the vigilante causes. And the audience cheers for the "hero", while he/she drives like a madman through streets full of people, with little or no regard to their safety. Even small collisions can lead to neck injury or even death, and clogging up infrastructure can prevent emergency vehicles from reaching their destination.
My point is that vigilantism might seem like a good thing in the spur of the moment, but on a larger scale where all factors are considered, vigilantism is a very destructive practice that causes more harm in the long run than good. Police and law are there to prevent this ineffective practice from happening. The road to hell was paved with good intentions.

Once again, I'm not going to argue fictional facts to try and justify reality.

There are consequences to actions, yes I agree. There are also consequences to inaction. I'm not saying go out and try to save the world. But average response time in the USA is anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes. Sometimes you have no choice but to intervene in a life and death situation.

In other cases, the law here is notorious for catch and release of repeat offenders. Some officers complain they arrest someone and they end up arresting the same guy for the same crime that same day. The law doesn't always work.

The fictional "facts" was to demonstrate the public's views on the issue, not the issue itself. I agree that repeat offenders being released and slow reaction times are bad things, but vigilantism is not the solution to this problem. Your argument is that the law doesn't always work. Well, no system always works, and if you cherry-pick cases that supports your view, anything can be demonized.
I think vigilantism will have even more horror cases, because unorganized fighting of crime will definitely bring out the worst in some people, and they will hide behind the veil of justice when all they want is violence. Why do you think protests recently have ended in looting and destruction? When people can hide behind large groups or ideals, they lose the inhibitors that normally would stop them from doing inhumane things.

Punishing squads or whatever you are suggesting will bring very little good to society, and the people participating in them are probably just as bad as the people they are enacting "justice" upon. I personally believe that anyone capable of feeling joy from others pain is a bad person, no matter who the recipient of that pain is. If you feel good when a rapist is being physically abused, then you are no better than a rapist yourself, because you are also giving in to the dark, savage instincts that exist within you.

I pretty much refuted many of your claims in response to someone else below. I don't feel like repeating everything again, so just read those.

Two things I haven't discussed though, one being that the large violent groups of "protesters" are not actually protesting anything. They are rioters. The media has been pushing the agenda of relabeling them as protests but they are not. These are groups of people looking to destroy and loot and they piggyback on social issues to look like they are doing it for good.

As for your second point, your entitled to your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree with you. A rapist and an individual wanting a rapist punished are not the same. That thinking is toxic. People like you obviously have never personally experienced such trauma, or witnessed someone else having to go through it.

There is a right way to conduct yourself in society, and a wrong way. I personally believe that if you take it upon yourself to molest a five year old boy and cause him life long trauma, for example the kind that inhibits you from forming meaningful relationships, then you don't have a right to society. Yeah, you bet your ass I feel great to see serial killers and serial rapists put down like the wild animals they act like.

If vigilantism isn't a solution in cases such as I presented, I implore you to provide a better one.

My solution is the one that already exists. Justice is blind. We must have a system where an organization moves not on emotion, but according to a set of rules created to benefit society the most. If these rules do not do this, then they must be modified and adjusted until they do.
Vigilantism is laziness, it takes the short term solution, only attacking the symptoms, rather than attacking the problem. If a crime is done against someone you love, of course you want to punish the person responsible, but what does this achieve? One criminal gone, but its not like there will stop being rapists or murderers just because one dies. Rather than wanting to punish someone, a more noble and human aspiration would be to want to prevent others from experiencing the same thing. Join the police, try affecting politicians, plan neighborhood watches, give lectures in schools...... and so on. There are many ways that might not seem effective then and there, but slowly changes society as a whole rather than fixating on single occurrences. Most people are not capable of this, and will be blinded by rage and pain, and it is for this exact reason that justice cannot be allowed to be a personal issue that everyone governs themselves.

the phrase "it is better to let five guilty men go free than to execute one innocent" comes to mind, while vigilante justice is not something to be praised, I would like to see more pedophiles whipped to death with proper evidence and a trial of course

And we could say that the guy who gets caught in the act is able to make a run for it and during the chase he gets away and they find someone that looks like him later on. What do you do then? You caught him red handed. Looks exactly like the guy to you. In court you would find that there's security footage of him working at his job while that was happening but if you're a vigilante or an angry father are you going to believe that? No, because your family is a way higher priority than your countryman. At least the system thinks "well we would prefer this citizen of our country to not be in jail so he could continue working and being productive so lets look into his story before we spend more tax money on him."

But they can't ever get that time back. If you're not confident enough in guilt to execute a murderer, then tbh we shouldn't be locking them up for their finite lives either. Either they did it or they didn't. I feel like juries may be more lax with their definition of "beyond a reasonable doubt" because they're thinking that at least if they're proven wrong then the guy's "only" going to prison, ya know?

And its retarded as hell. Everyone just keeps cheering on the internet but never thinks of the consequences of vigilante justice. I mean half this site are pedophiles so this kind of justice would do them no good.

Whose to say this man that got whipped to death actually did it? Do we even know exactly what happened or how he was caught?

That's why we have a legal system. It's slow and it can be frustrating at times. But it's purpose is to give a proper trial and see with the evidence if the person deserves punishment or not and to measure the severity of the punishments.

Think about the innocent people wrongfully accused even with a proper justice system (because it's not perfect). Now think how many more people are wrongfully accused by vigilante justice.

I would love to see a child abuser get whipped to death, but I would not forgive myself if that person was innocent.

The reason you can't just immediately execute someone sentenced to death is because they can go through an appeal process, something everyone has a right to do because the judicial system is not perfect

And don't even start with your horrible execution ********. Just let the sick ******** life end and get him out of this world, God can judge him accordingly. Our laws and prisons don't exist to hurt bad people because they deserve it, it's a necessity to remove these people from the public, rehabilitate, or otherwise discourage further destructive behavior.

because your prisons are private and its a business.
the higher the sentence and the longer a judge puts an inmate into one of his buddies prisons the more money he gets from them and in turn the prison owners get more money from the state for each inmate.
people, and more so the govt does not give a **** about human rights or the laws and punishments for horrendous monstrous acts.
especially no ***** will be given about crimes that dont bring any money, its like "meh, we cant milk this, just get rid of it asap"

Not like they always act that way
One of the youngest mothers in the world was russian and was raped by her grandpa and died during childbirth
The family left with grandpa completely unpunished
Its better if you compare this to the guy that shot the dude trying to rape his daughter in texas

Did you miss the point? It's fake news, they just keep posting fake whipping stories year after year using the same picture and different but similar stories. The fact that you can't see fake news even when it's clearly labeled as such explains a lot around here.

Because the American legal system loves pedophiles. They are all friends and they will all bail each other out. Why do you think a pedophile can get caught admitting it on tape to his own victim and get a year in court, but get out after 6 months? Pedophiles are government. They are Hollywood. They got each other's backs. They need to start throwing them in a pit of fire.

Is the point of this post that the top story is ********? All the bottom stories are from a year and a half earlier and call him a drug dealer not a pedophile. Yet all the comments here are just people cheering.

The great irony of FJ, people whine about SJWs and feminists wanting to be outraged and seeking to get triggered, but then FJ do exactly the same by rummaging through news sites they know they don't agree with or follow facebook and tiwtter personalities they know they hate. There's really no difference between FJ and extreme left in that regard, both are just people with too much time that wants to be outraged and triggered.

I tried pointing out the hypocrisy of the Texas Shooting and the Las Vegas Shooting. How the left tried to make the Las Vegas Shooting political and they got flak from everyone and FJ gave them so much ****, but then as soon as the Texas Shooting happened everyone made it political. I tried to point it out and everyone just thumbed me down.

Im right leaning as well but come on people, can we stop being hypocrites for one second?

There are a good amount of scepticle people here and on most things that are ********, there's at least 1 wall of actual scources and explaining how it's not true, thumbed up in the comments.
Heck even the most comments i see here talk about how it doesn't add up...

archive.is/oWIib
The pro-russian rebels say he is a drug dealer, the man says he only takes drugs. Not called a pedo anywhere.
This ones got a video (NSFL) archive.is/ujRGy
If any brave friends speak russian they might concur.

We have many russians in my building, our crying baby has caused one to come to our door and bang on it yelling and trying to break down the door. She doesnt cry more than any other baby, she is teething, shes going to cry from time to time.

Easily expected from your usual shillary supporter. Because Russia totally doesn't want to be left the **** alone and yet the USA keeps funding these terrorists such as ISIS constantly attacking Russia's allies.

I am NOT trying to defend the guy who gets whipped in any way (I dont know the facts, I dont know what he really did since I dont judge based on random google links/titles and all those articles could be fake or lies or badly researched in some way) BUT

thats the most ****** up thing I learned about human behaviour : trying to "avenge" evil with (or even more) evil .
. that is why wars exist, that is why we cant stop/decrease violence in the world , because enough people think its the right "solution" to fight fire with even more fire (like the people whipping this guy think they are justified doing it). They are not. They proved they are just as ****** up as the one they are "punishing".

it srly is the most ****** up thing. "you did something really bad so I'm gonna do something even worse to you." People who srly think like that are animals, not humans.

I know there are people here who will try to justify what is happening in this video with some stupid excuse like "its not about justice, its just about avenging the victim" or "getting whipped to death is still a less evil crime than what the one getting whipped did." or "it will keep others from committing the same crime and be a good example".
No. that is ******* stupid. If you think like that then you'd be a potential psychopath and probably would've joined ISIS or other extremists/terrorists if you were born in a related country.
This comment might get thumped down to oblivion. I dont care. If people seriously thump this content up because they cheer for those (basicly executioners) " lol thats what you get for doing that!" then i feel ashamed for visiting the same website as these people.
Criminals go to jail, or get forced to do something thats beneficial to society, or get locked up in a place for violent lunatics, or whatever..... but torturing someone to death (in my opinion death penalty as well) is beyond being justifiable.
In my opinon (just MY opinion) the guyz who are torturing the guy are even worse. Lets just pretend the guy getting whipped really did sexually assault a child. Thats ******* horrible. He would probably be mentally ill and messed up, possibly without hope. He deserves punishment yes, but in that messed up brain of his he did, whatever he did, for some reason. Some ****** up reason made him do it.
Now the guyz who whipp him to death? They are NOT doing it because they think he deserves it (at least i think thats not why). They are doing it because they want to see this person suffer as much as possible. Not because they HAVE to do it but because they WANT to do it. They are possibly on an even deeper level of **** **** evil than the criminal.

again, I am not defending the guy who gets punished. I'm saying the people punishing him made themselves just as guilty.
....i really hope this is post is getting upvoted for some other reason than people cheering for this stuff... pls let me have missed something.

y well.. places like fj made me unable to trust anything i read online so.. what you say might or might not be true. But if what you say is true, then the roles of who is guilty and who isnt get reversed... its still ****** up no matter how you look at it.

It comes down to one thing. Culture. Everywhere is different and everyone grows up differently. Some people love to **** animals, some people love to **** children. Sometimes it's mental illness but sometimes it's just straight up culture and the same goes for vigilantism. You **** up like that in Africa and you get mob violence. Russia is more inclined for individual vigilantism.

well, I get what you mean. its easy to understand that different cultures have a different look on what is a serious crime and what isnt. But its hard for me to grasp that basic moral (like : killing is always bad) also changes depending on culture.

I think with most of it it becomes an age thing. Once you hit 25 and you've only known one way to live it gets hard to learn any other way. It's not impossible but that subconscious resistance is always there

I agree with what you have said , however I would add in rare cases like in John Grishams "A Time to Kill " where a father kills the men who raped and beat his daughter in a fit of blind rage . I can understand how someone in a similar situation might loose control and beat someone to death.

yet understanding it doesnt legitamize it . I could also see myself reacting similar, but as soon as I'd snap out of my "trance/hysterie/crazy state" I'd know that what I did was wrong. The people from this video clearly were not in a state of blind rage. They knew what they were doing.