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Good points raised by researchers in some of the many flaws of the RNA World Hypothesis:

Adenine a key component of the RNA world hypothesis has many hypothesis flaws in the origin of life:

1. Adenine synthesis requires HCN concentrations of at least 0.01 M. It is completely unreasonable to expect these concentrations on the prebiotic earth.

2. Adenine is susceptible to hydrolysis (the half-life for deamination at 37°C, pH 7, is about 80 years). Therefore, no adenine would ever be expected to accumulate in any kind of "prebiotic soup."

3. The adenine-uracil interaction is weak and nonspecific, and, therefore, would never be expected to function in any specific recognition scheme under the chaotic conditions of a "prebiotic soup."2 Similar problems apply to the abiotic synthesis of cytosine:

Problems with Cytosine as a key molecule in the RNA World or Origin of Life hypotheses:

1. Cytosine has never been found in any meteorites.

2. Cytosine is not produced in electric spark discharge experiments using simulated "early earth atmosphere."

3. Synthesis based upon cyanoacetylene requires the presence of large amounts of methane and nitrogen, however, it is unlikely that significant amounts of methane were present at the time life originated.

4. Synthesis based upon cyanate is problematical, since it requires concentrations in excess of 1 M (molar). When concentrations of 0.1 M (still unrealistically high) are used, no cytosine is produced.

5. Synthesis based upon cyanoacetaldehyde and urea suffers from the problem of deamination of the cytosine in the presence of high concenrations of urea (low concentrations produce no cytosine). In addition, cyanoacetaldehyde is reactive with a number of prebiotic chemicals, so would never attain reasonable concentrations for the reaction to occur. Even without the presence of other chemicals, cyanoacetaldehyde has a half-life of only 31 years in water.

6. Cytosine deaminates with an estimated half-life of 340 years, so would not be expected to accumulate over time.

7. Ultraviolet light on the early earth would quickly convert cytosine to its photohydrate and cyclobutane photodimers (which rapidly deaminate).3 According to Robert Shapiro, a prominent origin of life researcher, the spontaneous formation of a nucleic acid replicator is a "very improbable event." This is because the mixture of amino acids the Murchison meteorite show that there are many classes of prebiotic substances that would disrupt the necessary structural regularity of any replicator.4

8. Cytosine has a half-life in isolation of 19 days at 100°C and 17,000 years in freezing water, which is still very short on the geologic time scale (5)

With the Nucleotide problems aside, RNA itself has a huge problem in the origin of life RNA World Hypothesis:

1) The chemical properties of RNA make large RNA molecules inherently fragile and they can easily be broken down into their constituent nucleotides through hydrolysis. The aromatic bases also absorb strongly in the ultraviolet region, and would have been susceptible to damage and breakdown by background radiation (6,7)

2) For example, the ester linkage of ribose and phosphoric acid in RNA is known to be prone to hydrolysis.(8) Additionally, ribose must all be the same enantiomer, because any nucleotides of the wrong chirality act as chain terminators (9).

Im not sure you understand the references are quite valid whats the problem? Nature, PNAS, Scientific American uh uh.... I never knew anyone that committed to the RNA world hypothesis! There arent many facts to support it! :P

A hypothesis consists either of a suggested explanation for a phenomenon or of a reasoned proposal suggesting a possible correlation between multiple phenomena.

In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation.

All hypotheses are made by scientists to propose a theory. Same with Big Bang Theory. Its not testable unless you are the master of the universe. Theory and hypothesis are interchangeable.
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Im not sure why you are so defensive we are just talking here.

No, I cannot agree that hypothesis and theory are interchangeable. Because they are not.

When a scientist proposes a hypothesis, he must propose also the null hypothesis, and set up an experiment that will either support the hypothesis or support the null hypothesis. The evidence does not really prove either, just supports it.

A theory will be a testable model and it must correctly predict the occurences of a defined experiment, else it cannot be a theory.

The scientific community starts with many hypotheses and only a few contribute to actual theories.

the theory may be wrong but my information is that RNA has the ability to act as both genes and enzymes. This property could offer a way around the "chicken-and-egg" problem. (Genes require enzymes; enzymes require genes.) Furthermore, RNA can be transcribed into DNA, in reverse of the normal process of transcription. These facts are reasons to consider that the RNA world could be the original pathway to cells. James Watson enthusiastically praises Sir Francis Crick for having suggested this possibilit