There's nothing wrong with finally having the right reasons to get it. Those same people might make a joke or two but they will be happy you're part of the club. The experience of an rMBP especially for programming is well worth at most a minute of getting goofed on. It's just great to have a laptop that can develop easily for all three of the major platforms (Windows/Linux/OSX).

To be hones the best laptop I have ever done development on is a rMBP but if you want Windows I would look at the Dell business models, Latitude/Precision/maybe XPS15. HP are ok but quite expensive compared to Dell but don't offer anything extra IMHO. Dell also tend to have nicer screens IMHO.

One thing to note on Windows if getting above a 1080p panel, Windows is still fucking awful at HiDPI so personally I would stick to a 1080p panel. I tried to do some work on a 3K panel in a Carbon X1 and ugh. Will be nice if VS2015 has better scaling though I guess.

I just bought a $50 quad core chink tablet and a $20 keyboard case. I rooted it, threw Arch and dwm on it, and installed my regular programs. Comfy as hell. Program on a toaster, it doesn't matter (unless if you want to hate technology and you're doing corporate zombie shit).

>need to replace my laptop>just want something somewhat well made with a good display and enough power to at least handle my Cambodian Papyrus Scratchings in 1080p in a size of 13 inches or less for $300 or less>X220 has either shit tier TN or an IPS with ghosting problems>Toshiba Chromebook 2 doesn't have standard SeaBIOS>Thinkpad 11e looks like it's up my alley but only the Chromebook model is stated to be IPS and I'm unsure of how possible it is to install something over ChromeOS on one

Best laptop for programmers are retina Macbook Pros. Everything else is shit compared to it. Don't fall for bullshit NEET trolling from people who never owned one.

>Chrys Bader, Product Manager, Google+

>I was a die-hard PC user my entire life, until about 2 years ago.

>The reason I switched was simple: The best software for development existed on OS X. The best developers were on Macs, so they built the best tools on Macs for Macs. Slowly everyone started to switch over to OS X because it was where all of the best software was. The different software started to integrate with each other, and the network of developers and tools became even stronger. It's a self-perpetuating situation.

+ apple refurb comes with FULL warranty. that's how I bought my rMBP. you also have a full year before you can buy applecare (which is an extended warranty... highly recommended for laptops since people tend to fuck them up more easily than desktops).

>>47703714>I tried to do some work on a 3K panel in a Carbon X1 and ughOh fugg, I'm >>47702807 and that has me worried. I'm gonna run Arch and the wiki/forum CLAIMS HiDPI just werks but I'm a little scared.

>>47702678I usually only care about the size of the laptop. Preferably 16:10 aspect ratio, and a maximum of 14 inch size. Second thing I care about is battery life. I shouldn't need to look for a power outlet every 2 hours when all I do is type randomly and sometimes browse the web.Only problem I have these days is no laptops use 16:10 anymore.

>>47706700aww yiiiiiis my nigga. i loved my old latitude. keyboard was just as good as my t4x0 series thinkpad but the screen on the dell was a million times better than the thinkpad. lenovo fucked up the screens in the t4x0 series :(

>>47704286>google+well look at how good that is mr PROgrammeralso try programming without>numpad>home/end keys>rightclick on mousepad

You are pretty much saying that because everyone uses it, I should use it too. Perhaps if more people used proper computers instead of listening to your bullshit, then the socalled OS X loving firms would start catering to us.

>>47704286>The best software for web development exists on OS X.Web design is not a programing language. This is touching on the fact that all these fags use a GUI for their designing

>Many also cite their personal experiences with the machine to be a deciding factor.From what I've seen most of these people use a VM to actually get their work done

>Due to Apple license restrictions, Mac OS X is the only platform that allows you to develop for any platform.Again with the virtual machine thing.The current marketshare for operating systems is highly in favor of windows, meaning developers will need to be using windows software for developing. This can be done on a VM but is easier and faster on a PC (without very high end hardware, non existent on a mac)

>>47708124>Web design is not a programing language. This is touching on the fact that all these fags use a GUI for their designingGoogle has 40,000+ Macs. Most of their shit is not web design you mongoloid. Most of their code is for their backend. You're a fucking idiot if you think there's something that prevents Macs from doing C++/C/Go etc. etc.

>The current marketshare for operating systems is highly in favor of windows, meaning developers will need to be using windows software for developing.

Muh marketshare... no one gives a fuck about PC marketshare anymore. It's all about MOBILE! Where the fuck have you been for the last decade?

>Instead of the 26% less battery life in Windows that Anand measured in 2009, we're now seeing 50% less battery life. This is an enormous gap between Windows and OS X in what is arguably the most common form of computer usage today, basic WiFi web browsing. That's shameful. Embarrassing, even.

>I had a brief Twitter conversation with Anand Shimpi of Anandtech about this, and he was as perplexed as I was. Nobody could explain the technical basis for this vast difference in idle power management on the same hardware. None of the PC vendors he spoke to could justify it, or produce a Windows box that managed similar battery life to OS X. And that battery life gap is worse today – even when using Microsoft's own hardware, designed in Microsoft's labs, running Microsoft's latest operating system released this week. Microsoft can no longer hand wave this vast difference away based on vague references to "poorly optimized third party drivers".

>>47708290>dat butthurtwhen presented with actual facts, your cognitive dissonance kicks in and you can't confront your crazy beliefs so you resort to calling others "shills". kid, that's a sure way to lose grip on the reality and eventually end up in a fucking nuthouse.

>>47708303The MBA gets good battery life because it is still using a 2003 tier 1366x768 TN screen. You can find $200 Chromebooks with just as good battery life. The rMBP gets battery life because it's so fucking heavy, about .8lb more than comparable systems from other manufacturers, so it fits a battery with about 50% more capacity.

>>47708190>You're a fucking idiot if you think there's something that prevents Macs from doing C++/C/Go etc. etc.Are you talking about xcode? You can use this for programing, but to fully test a program you need it to run on a windows computer. Thinking that testing is not as relevant as programming is also idiotic.

the amount of excuses you retards will try to come up with to justify your delusions is quite amazing! you just can't admit to yourselves the truth! amazing how crazy people on here are! you should try some medications.

>light enough to carry around>plays well with *nix, comes with a POSIX-compliant OS by default with BSD-based kernel if you don't want to just install gentoo/etc.>standardized hardware means it's easier to find drivers and not deal with the normal mess that linux on laptops can be>high-resolution screen with good ppi, easy to deal with multiple windows of text open next to each other without sacrificing too much space or dealing with blurry/tiny text>battery long enough to last all day without charging>just ssh into your home server/work station/uni for compiling because whatever laptop you buy will inevitably be less capable and have less processing power than those

The only downside to macbooks for this is their cost, which is you just buy one used and install a GNU/Linux distro over if it you don't care about the OS.

>>47708968no laptop has the key travel of an old mechanical keyboard. but that can be easily overcome with an external keyboard (if you're an grampa and need to hit your keys hard). having a keyboard that doesn't require a lot of key travel means your RSI will be kept at bay as well.

>>47709117>No, less travel distance is not a good thing. If it were, then every keyboard would shoot for low travel distance.Have you ever used a high-end mechanical keyboard? Low travel distance is a good thing. That's why they make many keyswitches for mechs that don't require bottoming-out the key. Please tell me this is supposed to be some kind of parody post and people like this don't actually post on /g/ seriously. Not even an applel user.

>>47709245>isnt there a difference between bottoming out and actuating?Yes, which is what I'm saying. Bottoming-out requires you to fully depress the key until it hits the bottom. On a (at least, most or almost all of them) mechanical keyboard, this is not required to actuate the key. You only have to press it a short distance to actuate, which is much easier on the fingers and allows for faster typing.

This is absolutely correct. NONE of the trackpads in the market is decent enough to fully replace a mouse. Even the expensive ones. I'd love to know what notebook other than a macbook (nope, I won't buy that unless you're payimg) has a tolerable trackpad...

>>47709324http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/terms.php>Activation Point (or Operating Position) is the key travel distance where the key is actually recognized by the keyboard.

https://i.imgur.com/DHfyMqP.gif

I honestly have no idea if you've made a serious misunderstanding or are this retarded. Travel distance is the distance to the actuation point. Not needing to bottom out every key to actuate it is a good thing. Which is why the actuation point on most mechanicals is 2mm, and don't require you to bottom out at 4mm.

>>47709671>And I can't find a FHD Latitude 3000 for $870There's one that doesn't have it standard but it can be customized. A 120-128GB SSD goes for about $60 nowadays. 8GB of RAM costs about $55, assuming both the slots are filled already. All you have to do is get a laptop with a decent screen, CPU, and GPU if you need it, then throw in about $100 to get an SSD and upgrade RAM.

>>47709790"Half the price" was a hyperbole but still doesn't change the fact that macs have total shit value. Their $1300 machines have the same specs as $800 PCs, their $2500 machines have the same specs as $1200 machines, and they have no answer for any PC more expensive than that.

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