(Original post by Tiger Rag)
Where would the money come from? And what's so wrong with asking someone to pay for their own education? And it's not just their education they're paying for - they're paying for the upkeep of facilities at the university.

The money came from taxation and they do pay for their education in taxation once working.

It's linked. We're a generation of people who don't really know what we want to do. Cheap or free university will encourage more people to go. The only way you'd keep admittance under control is set entry requirements to a minimum of something like A*A*A or something...

..but then you'd also have a generation of the most 'stressed out' kids ever

I'm not in favour of the proposed changes to fees, but i'm not in favour of reducing them on the basis of 'we are entitled'.

(Original post by Purpleunicorn197)
But then how different is this from about a century ago when only the richest people could go to university- raising tuition fees or even keeping them where they are is more back tracking than progress as we will end up in a society in which only the richest and elitest people can go to university while others aren't even given the opportunity. How are we meant to grow and prosper as a country if we are not giving everybody the same chance to succeed?

EVERYONE right now has the opportunity to go to university now - even the poorest.

(Original post by hezzlington)
It's linked. We're a generation of people who don't really know what we want to do. Cheap or free university will encourage more people to go. The only way you'd keep admittance under control is set entry requirements to a minimum of something like A*A*A or something...

..but then you'd also have a generation of the most 'stressed out' kids ever

I'm not in favour of the proposed changes to fees, but i'm not in favour of reducing them on the basis of 'we are entitled'.

Nah you simply link number of places available to number of expected jobs available for that degree.

That would clearly mean closing shite universities so it kills two birds with one stone

I think what everyone is saying that, those who intend to study non-academic degrees, such as liberal arts etc. Should really look at their future options before applying for uni. I have known people who studied Psychology and Speech & Communication Therapy, they all ended up working at the same pay rate as me where I work, and I'm a sixth former. A massive waste of three years in my opinion, if they weren't going to use their degree for study etc.. It's just overwhelming for us academic students at first, to have this massive debt on our shoulders. However, we pay it back in manageable sums, and those of us who are careful, should not be a problem. For those of you who intend to study English and then end up with a crappy office job, don't blame the government, we can blame them for all sorts of stuff, but not this time. If the tuition fees were lowered, we'd probably have to pay much more for other things, such as accomodation or taxes etc.

(Original post by K2G)
9000 is a ridiculous amount to be paying yearly + all the expenses like rent, food and laundry etc. This amount adds up to about 15k a year. Unless you're bagging 15k without a problem. Then go ahead and argue this point of yours but trust me not everyone can afford it.

Sign the petition, there's a petition thread with a link to make it 3k

(Original post by K2G)
It won't work. They will debate it, make us believe that decreasing tuition fees to £3k would be a wrong choice and even if they do decide to make it £3k, by that time it'll be too late for us.

(Original post by K2G)
They will debate it so much, you will literally end up agreeing with probably 11k a year lol.

Lol never but somehow education gets more expensive. Lower cost if not free means more for the taxpayer. It might also lessen living expenses which means the conditions will be worse. Apparently high cost means higher quality, as well, but like I dunno. ****'s mad. I should just drop out init lol

(Original post by 0to100)
Lol never but somehow education gets more expensive. Lower cost if not free means more for the taxpayer. It might also lessen living expenses which means the conditions will be worse. Apparently high cost means higher quality, as well, but like I dunno. ****'s mad. I should just drop out init lol

The country had no problem when tuition fees were 3000 pounds, should've stayed like that. Quality of life was quite high tbh. even myself as a student could afford much more things back then.

(Original post by K2G)
The country had no problem when tuition fees were 3000 pounds, should've stayed like that. Quality of life was quite high tbh. even myself as a student could afford much more things back then.

Do you know what's made it go up though, like a quick list help me out mate