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I wish I could love this game but the lack of action combat just makes it so boring.

If EvE had a baby with Black Prophecy like would be grand. Then again, maybe that's Star Citizen, who knows.

I think the combat is awesome, primarily because of this: either you or your enemy will be blown up and lose your entire ship! This is very motivational and keeps your heart pumping during PvE and mainly during huge zerg fights!

That concept is awesome, but it seems to take very little actual player skill, and comes down more to your loadout and stats, with the occasional need to push a button.

Orbit, activate auto-attack, wait. That's about it. I want to be involved in the combat, not a bystander. I'm sure it gets more complex when you start dealing with ECMs, drones and other such things, but the combat just seems so sluggish and archaic to me.

All they'd have to do is give me real-time space sim combat and it'd be golden. Everything else is great but it puts me to sleep when I play.

That said, glad you're having fun with it! You're definitely not alone!

Obviously you never played eve, there are types of skill. What you talk about is twitch based arcade based skill.

Eve req. a lot of skill and knowledge as well as tactics. Be warned, ppl taking eve lightly pay dearly :)

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I hate EVE. Utterly despise it.

I spent 2 months years ago desperately trying to enjoy it, because I was sick of fantasy. I wanted sci-fi. A friend was playing EVE and loved it, so I went out of my way to try to find something to love in this game. All I did was develop the deepest hatred for a game I have ever known. 2 months and I never had one moment I can call legitimately 'fun'.

I hate the conspiracies, lying, swindling, griefing, pirating, and all the other 'lovely' stuff that brings out the absolute worst aspects of humanity I have ever encountered.

All that being said...

...I'm glad that EVE exists. I'm glad that it's successful. It shows proof that in the MMO space not only can a game survive WoW, it can also thrive after WoW changed the face of the MMO field (for the worst, IMO).

...I'm glad Dust 514 is coming out, because while I've never been a fan of PC and console gamers attempting to co-exist in the same game world, I think a PC game and a console game having a common link and playing off each other sounds pretty freaking cool (even though I don't own a console and have no interest in Dust).

So, yeah, I suppose even a hater can appreciate something they hate. Rock on, EVE lovers.

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I hate the conspiracies, lying, swindling, griefing, pirating, and all the other 'lovely' stuff that brings out the absolute worst aspects of humanity I have ever encountered.

I guess you went to play EVE with your old themepark mindset.

EVE is a game ran by players and with no 'carebear' rules. If you get scammed, it IS your fault, but in themepark MMOs the developers will take players by the hand and compensate them for something they brought upon themselves. In EVE this doesn't happen and it is AWESOME.

Even on a game, every action should have a reaction. In EVE this truly happens, whereas in common copycat themeparks you can report other players for swearing (instead of using the block function), for scamming (instead of using your brain and not send gold hoping to receive the double), for griefing (instead of dealing with it and moving on), and the list goes on. If anything, this aspect makes EVE a even better mmo.

Long story short: you were too used to have your hand held by the MMO developers, and didn't liked being thrown on a true sandbox atmosphere where you are held responsible for your actions. Don't take this as a offense.

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I thought I'd hate eve coming from WoW... what fun can you have without a shield, sword, and blood gushing out of your enemies?

I loved it instantly. /shrug.

it's an admirable game. love it or hate it, it's one of those that creates something that I'm glad exists. Not because it survives WoW but because it's an opposite extreme, hopefully providing an inspiration for others to create eventually the shield and sword equivalent that many of us would love.

edit: once a wormhole closed and I had no scanner. the GM response was basically "deal with it". Well...now I know not to be retarded. Despite how I just lost my drake 5 minutes ago tryin to single-handedly save a hotdropped carrier in a sanctrum.

turns out EVE doesnt hide your own stupidity from yourself. And I'm not proud of going head-first into 20 enemies but I should've known better. So should the carrier owner.

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I thought I'd hate eve coming from WoW... what fun can you have without a shield, sword, and blood gushing out of your enemies?

I loved it instantly. /shrug.

it's an admirable game. love it or hate it, it's one of those that creates something that I'm glad exists. Not because it survives WoW but because it's an opposite extreme, hopefully providing an inspiration for others to create eventually the shield and sword equivalent that many of us would love.

edit: once a wormhole closed and I had no scanner. the GM response was basically "deal with it". Well...now I know not to be retarded. Despite how I just lost my drake 5 minutes ago tryin to single-handedly save a hotdropped carrier in a sanctrum.

turns out EVE doesnt hide your own stupidity from yourself. And I'm not proud of going head-first into 20 enemies but I should've known better. So should the carrier owner.

+ for learning with your own mistakes, and not having your hand held through it just. This is how learning works in real life and should be how learning worked in every mmo

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leading lambs to the slaughter.. be ashamed.

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I hate the conspiracies, lying, swindling, griefing, pirating, and all the other 'lovely' stuff that brings out the absolute worst aspects of humanity I have ever encountered.

I guess you went to play EVE with your old themepark mindset.

EVE is a game ran by players and with no 'carebear' rules. If you get scammed, it IS your fault, but in themepark MMOs the developers will take players by the hand and compensate them for something they brought upon themselves. In EVE this doesn't happen and it is AWESOME.

Even on a game, every action should have a reaction. In EVE this truly happens, whereas in common copycat themeparks you can report other players for swearing (instead of using the block function), for scamming (instead of using your brain and not send gold hoping to receive the double), for griefing (instead of dealing with it and moving on), and the list goes on. If anything, this aspect makes EVE a even better mmo.

Long story short: you were too used to have your hand held by the MMO developers, and didn't liked being thrown on a true sandbox atmosphere where you are held responsible for your actions. Don't take this as a offense.

Yeah...hardly. The reason I played EVE was because it is a sci-fi sandbox (HALLELUJAH, 2 of my favorite things) and my friend was playing. Lots of assumptions there. Just about all of them wrong, except for, perhaps, I suppose I'm a carebear in real life. I treat others fairly and expect to be treated so in return. The better parts of human nature are what I seek to live by and are what are important to me. Think a person like that could easily and happily fit into EVE? Heh.

I tried, even so. I spent 2 months having the the misfortune of seeing the worst of the community on display (no I wasn't scammed or anything like that, I do have a brain, I'm simply talking about what I saw over chat channels- oh, and being podded in newbie 'safe' space the very first day I played- what a welcoming experience that was) and despite my attempts to enjoy the game ANYWAY, I found no fun in the actual gameplay either. So I moved on, hoping to find my challenge elsewhere... but sadly WoW happened and destroyed the face of MMO gaming, and now it's all boring handholding copycat after copycat.

Enjoy your awesome. I mean that. Different people like different things for different reasons. Like I said in my earlier post- I appreciate the game and what it's done, even if I really hate it. <shrug> I also hate chocolate ice cream. Doesn't mean I think chocolate ice cream should never be enjoyed by others.

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Originally posted by knuckledust13

Originally posted by Kenze

leading lambs to the slaughter.. be ashamed.

+1 hahaha

Shhh...now he knows....

In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways."I don't have one life, I have many lives" - GruntyStill currently "subscribed" to EVE, and only EVE!!!"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

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When and if CCP expands on their out of ship gameplay, I'll check it out. I played the trial a few months back and really enjoyed it, but I felt a bit detatched. Being able to walk around in your private quarters certainly helped alleviate that issue, but it's not enough for me.

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Originally posted by GN-003When and if CCP expands on their out of ship gameplay, I'll check it out. I played the trial a few months back and really enjoyed it, but I felt a bit detatched. Being able to walk around in your private quarters certainly helped alleviate that issue, but it's not enough for me.

Well, EVE will never have a full fledged out-of-ship action, the closed to it will be DUST, which EVE players will be able to directly influence.

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Originally posted by knuckledust13

Originally posted by GN-003When and if CCP expands on their out of ship gameplay, I'll check it out. I played the trial a few months back and really enjoyed it, but I felt a bit detatched. Being able to walk around in your private quarters certainly helped alleviate that issue, but it's not enough for me.

Well, EVE will never have a full fledged out-of-ship action, the closed to it will be DUST, which EVE players will be able to directly influence.

Sure, I suppose I meant the social aspect of the game. Being able to interact with others/world in some sort of capacity while in avatar form. I know they've talked about walk in space stations which has been met with mixed response. Seeing as how EVE is one giant world, I'm curious as to how that would actually work.

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Originally posted by GN-003

Originally posted by knuckledust13

Originally posted by GN-003When and if CCP expands on their out of ship gameplay, I'll check it out. I played the trial a few months back and really enjoyed it, but I felt a bit detatched. Being able to walk around in your private quarters certainly helped alleviate that issue, but it's not enough for me.

Well, EVE will never have a full fledged out-of-ship action, the closed to it will be DUST, which EVE players will be able to directly influence.

Sure, I suppose I meant the social aspect of the game. Being able to interact with others/world in some sort of capacity while in avatar form. I know they've talked about walk in space stations which has been met with mixed response. Seeing as how EVE is one giant world, I'm curious as to how that would actually work.