However, that does not stop the fact that Obama's approval rating is falling. His public support for healthcare is below 50%, and some key members of the Democratic party are very scared about their prospects for reelection in 2010.

I think the Anti-Obama movement is doing just fine. And growing stronger each day we see the deficit grow. With new adjusted numbers never before seen.

But I guess the one thing recently that makes me really not like Teddy is his attempt to manipulate the process by which his replacement is named. Another politician (and yes both sides do it) that manipulates the law to their own parties advantage.

That alone make me want to puke. Just a disgusting display of an abuse of power.

Bam, moved to debates. Even though it seems hardly appropriate to debate in a thread dedicated to a mans death, some people have a fair bit of frustration they'd like to vent, and that is why this is in debates now.

People are frustrated, just because the president is democrat, and a lot of the congress is democrat, does not mean everyone is democrat. I remember hearing a lot of the same hyperbole the more conservative people are saying now sounds about the same as what the democrats were saying before. In this country at least, everybody gets their fair time to say what they're thinking.

Meanwhile, I think maybe we should let some of the political vitriol rest for a bit. The man had some fine achievements, he wasn't perfect, but speaking ill of him now is just self-serving and kinda low.

Coincidentally enough, I recently had non-immediate family member die to drowning, and I have full confidence that his family did their best to save him. Yet there are still wild accusations flying around.

And if you believe it was malicious then you'll probably believe this too.

What I have a problem with is, making such an incident the focus of your first post. The second post sparked a debate, and I don't know if it was intentional or not. You also were the only one to bring up 'sainthood' or anything similar.