00:37:18asciilifeform:'The Mensch Computer is a solid state computer that was never designed to compete in the PC market. It's not a PDA, calculator, home controller or personal organizer, but it could be any of these things. It was designed to provide simplicity without complexity allowing users to evolve it into their own creation. Many people put a lot of thought and many years into the design to provide a head start for many projects. There are

00:37:18asciilifeform: several assembly language library routines built into firmware and a ROM monitor allowing the ease of programming any of the included devices including graphics, sound, game controllers, communication to a PC, Printer or Modem or other solid state devices. The ROM monitor provides an easy interface menu for checking registers and modifying data in memory. All software listings, schematics and documentation are included.'

00:37:36*:asciilifeform does not own this box, cannot recommend or disrecommend !!

17:51:37asciilifeform:and yes, when mircea_popescu wakes up he will remind me that it is the only real money. and he will be right, just like, to hruschev, Pu was the only real money

17:51:42pete_dushenski:http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406042 << as with all new german cars, yes. this comment on baruth's blog recently sharply sums up this arriviste betaboi phenomenon : "If you’re distraught about the Macan demo now, wait until the 4cyl comes out with a $499 lease special and a whole new segment of buyers. I can tell you from experience (I sell Audis as well) that the ‘aspirational’ luxury bu

17:51:42assbot:Logged on 15-02-2016 13:18:49; mircea_popescu: notrly. mercedes is sold by poor beta muslim boys telling each other THEY WOULD buy one

17:51:43pete_dushenski:yer is different breed…just wait for the Insta posts of a millennial couple with #porsche #madeit #lifegoals #adulting"

17:57:41asciilifeform:pete_dushenski: do you remember the thread re: 'organic food' ?

17:58:31asciilifeform:specifically how there is no place in usa where one can 'i will pay double for non-monsanto but i don't give a fuck about 'gmo' and i sure as fuck don't want to see homeopathic crud in the shop'

18:01:31pete_dushenski:asciilifeform: aha k, so let's see here. 25 years ago a young couple leaves china, lebanon, russia, or the like and moves to us/canada. they proceed to find gainful employment buying or selling something or other and set about raising two children. the immigrant couple, after working diligently to put their children through university, ensuring that their kids never know physical hardship nor so much as an overd

18:01:31pete_dushenski:ue credit card balance, proudly watch as both kids graduate as professionals, maybe optometrists or accountants. as these kids have never had to save for anything, nor even been encumbered by uncertainty, they proceed to 'show off' their entirely disposable incomes with the purchase of nice watches and leased bmws, audis, mercedes, or porsche crossovers and to 'post' 'their' 'success' on social medias and pick u

18:01:31pete_dushenski:p their friends for brunch on sunday morning while talking at length about what option boxes (of the 4 available) they ticked or didn't, and why or why not. this 'aspie' set has no goals beyond the moment's likes and hearts, not unlike the set that tlp mischaracterised as patek philippe owners.

18:03:34pete_dushenski:as to the organic food angle, the car market is actually quite a different beast, mostly because there is no 'quality' to be had for love or money. a new mercedes will break just as readily as a new kia, just more expensively.

18:05:39asciilifeform:for me, auto is just another expense. and a tool for doing a tedious and unpleasant chore. like broom.

18:05:41pete_dushenski:and in case anyone is curious about how 'cheap' and old merc is... it's not. i paid more in maintenance and repairs in the first year of ownership than i laid out in initial capital.

18:12:49pete_dushenski:asciilifeform: rolls royce looks like chrysler, mercedes looks like kia, and on and on and on. this is why my 'toy' would be 'morgan 3-wheeler' but afaik they're not importable to canada atm.

18:35:32assbot:Logged on 26-01-2016 17:20:06; ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)

18:36:26asciilifeform:nn works until it 'doesn't want to', at which point - doesn't.

18:36:46jurov:soo i'm looking on letsencrypt, which can auth the domain by adding stuff to webroot. so, no need for it to be ran under root you'd say

19:01:44asciilifeform:adlai: iirc the sake thing originated with a certain drunken former champ

19:01:56BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> i remember, a coupla years ago, when i first saw a live 'mazerati' << In one of the college towns I lived in there was one I'd frequently see as it bounced from parking lot to parking lot, looking more like weathered trash than other cars of similar age.

19:04:00kakobrekla:thinking anyone at google is even aware of bitbet is delusional.

19:05:13BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> yes, if it were a personal work of brin the younger, i would not be surprised re: no bets. << I'm not entirely sold on Deep Blue II electric boogaloo having been definitive for chess. Kasparov was not Undisputed in his championship at the time. His title was not recognized by FIDE.

21:20:27mircea_popescu:you'll also not have easy, meaningless sex with random women that you enjoy. and you won't be able to eat from garbage cans and always find exactly what you wanted to find in there.

21:20:45mircea_popescu:the solution to these faux problems is always the same, "don't want very much". which will make random offering perfectly fine.

21:39:37assbot:Logged on 15-02-2016 18:04:21; asciilifeform: it suggests that erdos was right, most people 'have no theorems to prove', the idiot social stotting game ~is~ the point of living, to them.

22:06:39adlai:mircea_popescu: only reason i ignore my unqualification to comment on this topic is that some dude showed up at the local bitcoin wateringhole to demo his luser-friendly stockfish interpreter