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11-22-2009, 12:35 PM

thomas.cena09

Re: Easy Decision, I've had both

Yeah that's true. You can take it as in this way.
There should be no problem.

09-30-2009, 12:37 PM

E39driver

"just burped up the X6." - Try vomited?

07-15-2009, 11:19 AM

lezonebay

What is a 1335 ? ? ? Never heard of it before !

but I have seen many 135's around. It does not look as you did a type as you keep repeating the 1335 term over and over.

what a heck is that ?

03-30-2009, 10:09 PM

ty

Re: 1335i vs 335? Thoughts?

yes

03-07-2009, 09:48 AM

Scott

I think you may want to rethink a few things.

Re your living in the 80's comment, I honestly have no idea what you're even talking about. As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with anything the guy said.

I guess by now you've finished a few crow salads, as bob's "prediction" has already started to become a reality, that being the turbo issue and BMW's questionable approach to resolving it. bob's hardly the only person that speculated that there would be issues with the bi-turbo engine. It's been the case over and over again that sometimes new technologies take a while to get all the bugs out. Were you really naive enough to think the bi-turbo would be different for some reason?

As far as the 318 being a failure, it was. I know, I owned one. I thought I was going to have to give it away, it was that hard to sell when the time came. You allude to worldwide sales when saying it was a success, but I'm probably not the only one that realized bob was speaking to U.S. sales when he said it was a failure. I mean, wth do we care here in the U.S. about how many units they may have sold in Europe, South Africa, and so on?

Another of your thoughts I don't follow is why you think someone has to actually own a certain car to speak to it's "greatness". Are you saying that you never judge how good or bad a car is until you've actually bought one? Maybe that's the way you do it, but you'd be the exception rather than the rule.

As far as E30 M3 prices, they're all over the place. And yes, it is entirely possible to be able to get two of them for about $40 large, but I suspect you were trying to pick at the "garage queen" label and to that point, I guess you must be equating the term to low mileage. Fair enough I suppose, but there are a lot of higher mileage cars (E30 M3's no exception) out there whose owners still pimped on their cars religiously. Just because a car may have some miles on it doesn't make it a heap. Visit a concours event sometime and check out how many of those beauties actually have odo's with six digit mileages indicated.

Scott

02-26-2009, 01:19 PM

jivin ivan

Re: 1335i vs 335? Thoughts?

I absolutely agree with you regarding minimal rear seat leg room in the 135i. As most people seem to have nailed it here it will come to your personal preference (virtually same stock performance, vehicle size, purpose, taste). But then again, I have a tough time calling a fully spec'd out 135i an "entry level car" at $40K+, unless you are referring to BMW line-up only :)

I am in the same boat here. I absolutely love the looks of the 135i but then again 335i is pretty damn sexy too. Had BMW priced 135i lower I would have a much easier time deciding.

Bottom line, 335i looks like it means business (and we all know that it does). 135i on the other hand is more of a street sleeper (which we know it really isn't haha)

Damn it, I soooooo undecided...

Ivan from Michigan

02-25-2009, 05:55 PM

bmwpc

Nonsense

By your comments, you are still living in the 80's like the apparent one and only BMW you've ever owned was made. Seems like yoou also neglected to mention any problems with that car even if you did buy it usedPerhaps you need to venture to another board as your "predictions" have already failed.

Also you incorrectly stated that the 318 was a failure. The 318 was a success for BMW just not in the US where American werent buying 2 door hatchbacks an, still don't. You might try a little research before stating an incorrect assumption.

By the way, all these cars you recommend as great buys....which have you purchased and can recommend for their greatness. Again research if you can find two garage queen E30 M3's for 40 K let me know cause I'll buy them.

02-25-2009, 05:41 PM

bmwpc

Easy Decision, I've had both

If money is not the question it gets down to only two factors. If you need a usable back seat, don't get the 135 coupe or wait for the sedan. Second, if you want to haul around an extra 400 pounds get the 335, if you want to haul [Oops!] a bit quicker get the 1. Same applies for either the 128 vs 328/30.

02-04-2009, 11:25 AM

Socom

YES

"trying to keep the price so high, they won't dilute the brand by selling to suburbanites or young car buyers."

"It's not who you are, but what you do that defines you"

01-29-2009, 02:44 PM

rustyh

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01-24-2009, 09:21 PM

BG

Finally someone making sense over the 1-series

I just returned from Greece and saw many 1-series 4-door hatchbacks. This one is practical and if BMWNA imported it to USA, it would compete with VW Golf or GTI, Mazda 3, and others. This would be the choice for someone who wanted rear-wheel drive in a hatchback. I just don't understand the high price of the 1s they bring here unless they are specifically trying to keep the price so high, they won't dilute the brand by selling to suburbanites or young car buyers.

01-20-2009, 07:22 PM

hiraxl5

Re: 1335i vs 335? Thoughts?

According tom "Letters" in the January issue of the Roundel, there is a problem with the turbos in these new engines. Specifically reports of "rattling waste gates". Warranty fixes have been new ECU software is now opening the waste gates from idle. This new change not to engage the turbochargers until 2500 -3000 RPM. This is "a far cry from the 1400 RPM, 300 foot pound kick that original 135i and 335i owners have come to love.
Several letters about this problem with the Turbo's in the January issue.
What are the thoughts of many????

Jerry

01-29-2008, 02:18 PM

bob.knox

Wait it out. The N54 is still unproven and WILL

have issues over the next year or two. To me the cost of the 135i just doesn't make any sense at all. I have moved to the dark side and buy used. For close to $40k you have a TON of options (Porsche 993, Lotus Elise, e46 M3 heavily tailored, e39 M5, or 2 garage queen e30 M3's) all of which will out-drive the 135. I'm predicting white hot sales for the first 12-16 months for the A.D.D. crowd, and then they will fall off a cliff. It will be 318Ti all over again. The right car with the wrong options at the wrong price.

BMW should be looking at a stripped out, cloth seat, no traction control alphabet soup 125i powered by an updated version of the S14 with fixed duration dual overhead cams at $22k. That way BMW will truly hit the main stream, their fleet mpg will go up, and with that motor they will have a "Rock of Gibraltar" reliable car for the single most important demographic, the entry level luxury buyer. Then again we are talking about the company the just burped up the X6. I guess common sense does not apply.

Bob K.
88 ///M5, RIP

01-27-2008, 02:46 PM

edhchoe

only 200lb!!!

Same engine, same gear ratio, and only 200lb lighter but a lot smaller....I don't get it.

01-19-2008, 11:12 PM

thebod

Re: 1335i vs 335? Thoughts?

I just came back from the Detroit auto show. I was asking the same questions you are. I think after seeing both cars I would lean towards the 335. With just a 200 pound difference in weight I don't think there is going to be much difference in performance. I was not happy with the reduced leg room in the back of the I135. If you do not want to take any passengers and want to drive the entry level 1 series then go for it. I think to say you have a sports sedan you need to be able to get a normal person in the back seat.

01-02-2008, 08:57 PM

chip0952

Re: Who is yirallis ?

Suggest you take a look at the E90 post board. He's out there, has a lot of common sense and creates some great dialogue.

Everybody has to make there own choices on what's make's sense for them.

01-02-2008, 07:37 PM

robert

+1

I was very tempted with a 2007 e92 335i coupe with 6000 miles and an asking price of 39,999.00. However, at that point I already have an order placed for the 135i, if not it's hard to say what car I will have now. I have no problem going with an used car because I care about value, but I know I will be curious whether he had a piggyback on.

01-02-2008, 11:36 AM

dolphin77

Who is yirallis ?

Who is this guy? He must own a bunch of BMWs. I have a 335i sedan, 6 speed manual, with sport and premeium packages and I don't see how it can get any better...it is certainly worth the extra 4K or so over the 135...JMHO D7

01-02-2008, 01:35 AM

e90-m3

Re: I am on the same boat - Choices Long

my reason--the 335simply doesn't look as nice as an e46.... The 135i is a nice upgrade in body style IMO.

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