Thiago Alves got busted for diuretics and got a title shot a few fights after his return. Sean Sherk got suspended for steroids and after returning from his suspension was rewarded with a shot at retaining his belt against BJ Penn. Vitor Belfort was suspended for testing positive for steroids and was signed by the UFC and got a title shot after only one fight in the promotion at a different weight. And we can’t forget Chael Sonnen, who if he beats Brian Stann in his first fight back from a PED suspension will get another crack at Anderson Silva, even though the last time they fought he did so on TRT without permission by CSAC.

Does anyone, or has anyone ever seen a picture or a video of where Anderson Silva has a natural mop of hair on his otherwise bald head?

XENOPHON- August 18, 2011 at 5:27 pm

@DonMatus
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Good for you signing up....I was getting filled with lead for a while. These fuckers around here must have spent time training by Blackwater.
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This shoot house has been the hardest by far. GRIN

XENOPHON- August 18, 2011 at 5:19 pm

@Pen Fifteen
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You make all good points.
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Watching a live fight, the guy to the left you is not going to see what the guy to right of you witnessed. You will think they are both fucked up, as they will often think the same as you.
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Aside from the smack talk, which is par for the course around here, there is nothing personal. I hold no ill repute.
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As for the 300 word comment, it was actually 447. Less than a single sheet of paper in a word document.
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Few can convey their own unique perspective with a one liner, all the time. For years I thought a one line memo was a sign of command (there is a famous 4 star who was known for his 1 line instructions) but as I had to compete at higher levels, I had to up my game.
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Not saying anyone else here needs too, it's just what I have grown accustomed to. Maybe if I used Twitter of Facebook I would have different perspective.
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Isn't that what the GAME is all about? From Cooking an MRE, to MMA, to steering a Wing Suit in mid flight. The GAMES always about exploiting from different angles or unique perspectives.
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It rare to be able to do so with one or two sentences, I give you props most of the time.

danomite- August 18, 2011 at 11:13 am

@ghostboner
can you tell me the round and time when fitch rocked GSP? I've watched that fight at least 10 times and never saw GSP even remotely rocked.

danomite- August 18, 2011 at 11:11 am

0. Be less boring/finish a fight
I know the article was less about fitch and more about some of the past title shots that made us scratch are heads and say "what the fuck?" but if we are really talking about what Fitch needs to do to get a title shot, the only thing necessary is finish a damn fight. And I'm not talking about trapping a guy's arm in the third round and love tapping his face until Mazagatti gets tired of asking the guy if he can continue. I'm talking about making a guy lose consciousness by either choking him out or punching him out.

Pen Fifteen- August 18, 2011 at 7:50 am

Yeah, and if Fitch had drawn with the champ, not to mention holding a previous win over him, he probably would have gotten a rematch too.

Mike Russell- August 18, 2011 at 7:43 am

Gray Maynard had a draw with Frankie Edgar.

Pen Fifteen- August 18, 2011 at 7:00 am

@XENO
Again, you seem to think that taking a 300-word dump on your keyboard is the same thing as making a point. People rooting for Fitch are bound and determined to prove that it isn't "fair" that he isn't getting a title shot. Because, after all, that's what we like about sports. If it ain't fair, it may as well be the Dubya Dubya E! But guess what fuckers? Life isn't fair. And can you think of the last time someone got a title shot coming off of a draw anyway? Seriously, someone tell me the last time that happened.

DonMatus- August 18, 2011 at 6:41 am

I registered just this just to post MO.
It's insane people knocking Fitch There is really no argument for him not to get a title fight from anyone that's not a delusional troll. And I'm a Canadian GSP fan.

I wish registration to any mma website had to be verified buy a solid punch to the chin. Than couch jockeys might be a little more realistic. Might be too much to ask though. lol

Me likey- August 18, 2011 at 6:03 am

gsp is the #1 welterweight in the world. fitch is #2. they are in the same promotion. everything else is just politics.

XENOPHON- August 18, 2011 at 1:57 am

Hey Pen Fifteen....what is your profession?
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Part of my profession is being an excellent competitive researcher.
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I can swear your user name cross referenced through two cuts outs, and then to a third.
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Your right, I bet people hear would care more about what you have to say, vs little old me.

XENOPHON- August 18, 2011 at 1:51 am

@Pen Fifteen
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To Fitch's credit the draw was against BJ Penn - and that tough fuck carries a lot of credit on my books since he was a kid and walked away from the UFC's belt. The came back and dominated
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Of course that draw was not forgotten, it was simply a draw. I meant to say "its counter-intutive, but the fact is only wins and loses matter." It's like a stalemate in Chess. The board gets wiped clean, and neither opponent moves up or down in the ranking but any bookie worth his beans with tell you that's bad for business.
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The draw doesn't count unless an organization has a transparent ranking. The UFC refuses to do that the way they run their business. Their preference is by manipulating fighters ranks based on fan demands. Thing about it, the UFC is ran much more like a cheap strip club fused with sports book.
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Mob fight fixers of the past, similar to the modern day Joe Silva (along with the problem officials and judges) used to end up disappeared and buried deep a hole out in the Vegas desert all the fucking time. With gambling when the fix is in, the worst thing is a bookie that fucked up, or a referee, judge, or offical that couldn't be corralled into siding with the house.
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Here's a Psychology 101 lesson anyone can do from home. Go back and watch that Hardy/Lytle fight with the volume off. No pumping from the Italian Rogan or his Jewish sidekick Goldberg, and you see a completely different fight opposed to the way they skillfully spun it. Especially leading up the that last minute 3rd round choke which was handed to Lytle on a silver platter. How come Hardy gets 5 losses, and its Lorenzo of all people that breaks the news that Hardy is staying put, and now calling Vegas home?
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If anyone hear's something several times in a short period from an announcer, you will begin to see what your being told. Even if its false. Don't you ever wonder or ask why, why are these two UFC commentators are merely contractors and not legitimate UFC employees? Anyone in business knows you keep all liabilities hemmed up with ultra restrictive contracts.
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The draw actually happens naturally in many fights all the time, but the company paid contractors - not direct employees always paint the fight per the promotions preference. Personally I think a lot of the skewed decisions people dislike around here should be called nothing more than a draw. Problem is there is big money involved behind the scenes with most every major televised fight.

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HateKozJustCuz- August 17, 2011 at 9:46 pm

Whether or not he finishes fights, he flat out WINS and usually beats the shit out of people in the process. I guarantee this stems all the way back to Fitch not wanting to give up his rights to the first Zuffa video game without getting compensated. Dana has done wonders for the sport, I admit, but his grudge holdings and double standards are a joke. Is the point of the UFC to finish fights or win fights? And nobody can convince me that a Fitch/GSP rematch would be any more boring than GSP vs. anyone not named Nick Diaz. Personally I love Fitch and think he's a great MMA fighter. Ask BJ if he thinks that Fitch is boring and undeserving of a rematch. How will we ever find out who the best fighters are if Dana is basing matches strictly on what sells? Total bullshit if you ask me. Ps I really hate Koscheck

Jawbreaker_46- August 17, 2011 at 9:13 pm

Or he could finish a friggin fight for once!!

Pen Fifteen- August 17, 2011 at 8:25 pm

@XENO
"When Jon fights I sit and watch wondering if the next opponent could beat him. I never see anyone coming close, and so the decisions and always unanimous and in his favor by a clear margin."
Except in his last fight, when he went to a draw with a 155er. Seriously, stop the marathon posts, no one gives a shit what you have to say about anything.

The problem with GSP vs. Fitch is that it puts two of the most dominate fighters in the world in the same cage and then asks the question, "Who can be the more overly cautious wrestler?"
http://thinkmma.blogspot.com/

RwilsonR- August 17, 2011 at 8:04 pm

And Fitch is as arrogant as anyone I've seen in this sport. He may not be as loud about it as many fighters, but he is far from humble.

RwilsonR- August 17, 2011 at 8:00 pm

Dana should just give Fitch a good wrestler, like Brenneman. Fitch isn't even that good of a wrestler, and he'll get a taste of his own humping. That'll solve Dana's problem.
Oh, and yeah... shiity article.

XENOPHON- August 17, 2011 at 7:58 pm

The article was fine, the intent was clearly conveyed but the finals analysis was a bit flawed.
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Fitch rocks. Look at it from another perspective. When Jon fights I sit and watch wondering if the next opponent could beat him. I never see anyone coming close, and so the decisions and always unanimous and in his favor by a clear margin.
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Getting a KO, or a submission may seem much more convincing to many, but to pull the 'unanimous decision' is at times even more work. Instead of a single referee to make the call, you are reliant on 3 individuals speaking from the same page.
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Sounds counterproductive, but the fact is only wins and loses matter. In homeboyz case, he is nearly unbeatable. After nearly 30 profession fights, only 3 individuals from a mix of each martial arts styles was ever able to ever knock-out, submit, or secure a decision against him.
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The current Champ "GSP-ion" at best could convince the judges of a decision. It was nearly 10 years ago during Fitch's 1st and 4th professional fights he had ever been choked or knocked out. Out of 28 total fights, that's notable.
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Here is Fitch's problem...and the author of this article hit right on it. Unfortunately he was unable to give his thesis a clear and concise answer in his conclusion. That answer is this. (and I hope Fitch's dumb fucking ass reads this)
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Fitch needs to flush and then rebuild his public brand. Even if he can't stomach the thought of being an arrogant prick, then at a minimum - try and mimic Dan Henderson's approach to marketing.
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Here's your cue Karma - pick up that pen and place the notebook at the ready bro!
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Fitch has got a hot enough little unit under his arm so that he is viewed by all as cool. Even I make it a point to keep a hot Hollyood hooker in my stable. Also, Fitch can think before he speaks -he even speaks clear and concise.
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The problem with his entire delivery is that when on his feet and speaking he makes a major tactical mistake, he is too fucking humble.
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If you can't quite see what I am getting at, go rent that movie with that big black gorilla sized muther fucker as its star. The movie is called the "Green Mile."
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Then watch that shit at least twice with two days in between viewings. Once you realize that being humble is literally a death sentence, you can pitch me a nickel for the tip.
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Matter of fact, "being Humble is a death sentence" is called a double entendre.

k-onda- August 17, 2011 at 7:35 pm

Nothing about Finish a Fight? Oh, that's right, this was a big tongue-in-cheek waste of brain cells, go about your business.

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fatbellyfrank- August 17, 2011 at 5:30 pm

Title shots should go to the most deserving athletes, there is an organisation which promotes events based on how much it will sell, its called the WWE.
I know dana has to run a business and all that, but UFC is a company involved in the sport of MMA and Ideally should be matchmaking on who's earnt the shots via winning fights, not on who can sell the most T-shirts

Drinks2Much- August 17, 2011 at 5:16 pm

u guys are a bunch of fucktards. i dont give a shit about that "Banana tree chopping vegan". some of those pics made me laugh, thats what i hope for on this site.

ghostboner- August 17, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Attaboy CP for pointing out the ridiculous title shot double standard. Fitch is the man. Apparently Dana and half of you ass clowns forgot that Fitch was the last guy to actually rock GSP or even look remotely competitive with him. And all you saying you wouldn't pay to see it are full of shit. You know perfectly well that a card headlined by GSP vs Fitch II would sell out and you would watch it.

intercept440- August 17, 2011 at 4:52 pm

@ironclad yes fitch does win, that much is undisputed, he also talks tons of shit then doenst back it up by fininshing the fights, him and shields are the most boring fighters on the planet with each having 13 decision wins out of roughly less than 20 fights( sorry i dont keep stats in my head so the number of fights may be innacurate).
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boring fights is what led the ufc from being an awesome up and comer from its begining to its utter failure to gain mainstream status.
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DW and the fertita's bought it and turned it around. they dont want to see it fail.
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is Dana a v9indictive muthafukka? and biased? fuck yeah he is. this article didnt enlighten us to anything we didnt already know.
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Smackdaddiest1- August 17, 2011 at 4:44 pm

So Walmart as a business should sell toys that the average kid doesn't want to play with?

Give me a fuckin break. They'd be bankrupt in one Christmas season.

GSP/Fitch 2 or GSP/Diaz. Which fight has the potential to be more entertaining?

Whoever made the comment about Maynard/Edgar 3 obviously didn't watch the 2nd fight. You probably think the same thing about the Faber/Cruz 2nd fight too eh? At the end of the day the UFC is in the business of entertainment. There is nothing entertaining about Fitch laying on another human being for any length of time and we've already seen him get his face beaten in for 5 rounds by St Pierre one time.

Smackdaddiest1- August 17, 2011 at 4:38 pm

At the end of the day, the UFC is a fucking business.

Dana White is a smart businessman.

Your average fight fan who BUYS the UFC's pay per views doesn't want to watch Jon Fitch fight. I'm sorry, it's the truth. The guy is boring to watch because it's not that he doesn't finish fights he doesn't even attempt to finish a fight!

Somebody else said it best...Kos got a rematch because he started knocking fools out and submitting them. Sure he had the occasional fight where he wrestlefucked a decision(See the Daley fight). If GSP wasn't the champ and the hottest thing in Canada he would be fighting on the Versus shows because he doesn't finish fights anymore either.

stevenmonteith- August 17, 2011 at 4:22 pm

@ironClad @Boomtime. You guys are on the damn money with your comments. Thank God there are other fans out there that are not totally going on there knew for zuffa. It erks me how stupid fans are. this article actually sheds a lot of light on Zuffa

Get Off Me- August 17, 2011 at 4:22 pm

"It sheds a lot of light and DW favoritism and ass backwards fight making decisions."

It's a black eye on the UFC everytime shit like this happens.
Why the UFC does not adopt a transparent ranking system is beyond me? I'd gladly pay to see Fitch/GSP 2, the frst fight was awesome, GSP took Fitch to the next level and Fitch never looked more entertaining. If I have to watch Fitch fight, it's gotta be a rematch vs GSP at this point, I don't think I could handle much else.

IronClad- August 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm

I dont give a shit if John Fitch doesn't finish fights. His record is consistent. I don't give a fuck if he hasn't "evolved" since his last fight. He wins, period. Its competition and for all you jack ass wanna be MMA analysts who don't want to see this fight because you agree with Dana Whites pathetic fucking excuse for not making this fight happen I have one thing to tell you.....

Maynard VS Edgar....III!?!?!?!??! Neither of these dudes can finish a guy if their life depended on it. They are both boring as hell and once Ben Henderson gets in there its over.

And as for this article being rubbish how so? It sheds a lot of light and DW favoritism and ass backwards fight making decisions. Seriously....suck on that one.

djp1988- August 17, 2011 at 3:13 pm

The only way Jon Fitch will get a title shot is by not being Jon Fitch.

Ballentine- August 17, 2011 at 3:11 pm

I read an article similar to this one just this morning. It was my turd in the toilet in the shape of an S.

rearnakedchickenchoke- August 17, 2011 at 3:08 pm

And btw - the article would suck slightly less if it was on one page. Stop trying to get a few extra ad impressions the cheap way.

rearnakedchickenchoke- August 17, 2011 at 3:06 pm

it's funny how everyone's all about how he got dominated by GSP. At the time, it was an accomplishment that he was the first person to last all 5 rounds with GSP. I'd be fine with a rematch. It can't be much more boring than the rest of GSP's fights have been.

Pen Fifteen- August 17, 2011 at 2:58 pm

@boomtime
You can't possibly be this dumb. Do you think you'd see the same quality of fights the UFC currently puts on if huge sums of money weren't involved? And how do you think people like Jon Fitch afford to train full-time without holding regular jobs? The fantasy of people competing for 'honor' and 'glory' is for Disney movies. If you want to watch amateur athletes compete to see who is the best, go watch the Olympics.

Piznti- August 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm

i really dont like the ped statistic. thats bullshit. im gonna go get some steroids, say the best pound for pound fighter in the world sucks donkey dong, maybe throw a cocky joke in there on how much better i am than him..... wait phone ringing, bam!! i got me a title shot. also genko is dead right.

intercept440- August 17, 2011 at 2:43 pm

#1 submit or knockout your opponent, instead of dry humping him to death

Susan B. Sandwiches- August 17, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Kos got a rematch because he started to knock and or choke people out instead of just wrestling. Florian gets title shots against different people (not rematches) and tends to finish all of his fights that aren't for a title.

Fitch is the same guy he was the last time he got dominated. If he started to evolve and become more dangerous, or if anyone other than GSP had the belt, then he should totally get another shot. Until then he has to settle with making damn good money, traveling, getting free shit, and laying on his hot girlfriend.

boomtime- August 17, 2011 at 2:40 pm

I think it is disgraceful that the reason fitch will not get a title shot is based on selling a fight, this proves that dana is only about the money, as if he needs any more, so you can go in and win every fight you have but if you do not finish it you will not get a title shot, well that's like adding outside the cage rules that apply inside the cage. I want to see guys that win fights using MMA rules to fight their way to the top for title shots, dana is killing MMA

Koeikan- August 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Who wrote this pile of garbage?

Blak302- August 17, 2011 at 2:31 pm

First off...I thought this was MMA - is it Fitch's fault that nobody at 170 can beat a wrestler? And as far as a fight with Georges goes, look what happens when Georges fights wrestlers, He forces then to stand....and look what happens when he fights bangers, he wrestle f*cks them through the mat. So why don't we want to see a GSP/Fitch rematch again???

AndyInflammatory- August 17, 2011 at 2:25 pm

He might deserve it based on statistics, but nobody wants to watch him fight.

Denny Slim607- August 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

One way for Jon Fitch to get another title shot: Go to another promotion.