Nato strike 'kills Saif al-Arab Gaddafi', Libya says

I think the reason they wanted to have more freedom is they have seen what life can be like, technical gadgets, women’s rights, education, and a
better standard of Freedom. Gaddafi has spies in education, government and work places. If you oppose him, you will be publically executed. He’s
stopped teaching other languages in schools. If you discuss Libyan politics with foreigners, you’re jailed.

He still doesn’t deserve to be killed or have his family killed. We don’t have an accurate poll of how many Libyans are for or against him, with
free will to choose. Now we’ll never know.

I'm all for raising more money for defense! The problems I see revolve more on our Mexican border. We actually have travel restrictions to Mexico
because of their inner drug wars. Again, Bonkers!

Originally posted by annella
I for one hope Gaddafi IS targeted and gotten rid of one way or another. Regardless of talk about the US's interests....the man is killing his own
people, he became ' ruler ' by undemocratic means, he milks his country of wealth that should be shared with his people, he IS a terrorist himself,
and as far as his grandchildren? Any grandfather worth his salt would have had precious family members sent far away from sites of conflict.
He deserves anything thrown at him.

End of rant. ( and I never mentioned Lockerbie..)

You are an uneducated and sick individual..He shares the countries wealth with the people more than any western country does. You clearly know nothing
about ghaddafi or Libya. I would go on but I don't think your barbaric mind would absorb anything I say

Originally posted by wonderworld
I had no idea that even New Zealand hated America. We are begged to help, this war is still very speculative.

90% of New Zealanders love the USA!

They grovel and abase themselves. They say 'sked-yool', and talk about going to the "bathroom" when they
mean the toilet, they wish they were American, they would marry it and have its babies.
But 10% of us are a bit more aware....
I don't hate America per se. I hate war mongering, murdering, killing and the death penalty. I hate the blatant American worship of money.
I hate hypocrisy and stupidity, and lies.
V.

We (the US) it seems simply won't be happy until we plunder all of the worlds resources, and that includes other peoples minds I guess.

You know, I did my 20 in the service, and because of that, when people are around me, they automatically assume that I gratuitously approve of
everything the Military machine here does. But, I will say this, when I first went in, in '83, let me tell you, there WAS honor on that
battlefield....now, the honor seems to be being guided by number of friend tags on facebook.....maybe Ghaddafi simply needs to logon more and he would
be ok.

Oh yea, and his kids and grandkids would still be alive.

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The US taxpayer has been plundered for the benefit of many other nations many times over. We are the number one donor to UN.

And this is where it gets really diabolical, we do not know what kind of State Egypt is going to become. I believe that it was intended all along by
this admin and World Socialists to start all these revolutions and turn these countries into Socialist states. All this seems to just fly by without
even a word, while NATO bombs Libya. And where does it come from? Yep, your pocket, that is if you pay taxes. But it is also in the form of a hidden
tex when inflation hits after the Fed prints money to pay for this stuff.

So why are we doling out money in aid to poor people in foreign countries while going bankrupt????

U.S. foreign aid has a variety of goals. Among them, lifting people out of poverty, promoting democracy and economic stability worldwide, and
bolstering strategic alliances. According to the government’s user-friendly Web site, www.foreignassistance.gov, Uncle Sam doles out “more than
$58 billion a year in foreign assistance through more than 20 agencies.” More than half of that, roughly $37 billion, is managed by the State
Department and USAID.

Originally posted by JohnnyWarbucks
HA! Good. I like it. Drinking one for NATO! Our celestial ministers of death are closing in on Gaddafi, he wanted to fight to the death and he'll get
it.

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If he waved a white flag do you think we should still kill him?

Not officially. We could accept his exile along with his family and then his plane accidentally crashes killing all on board. However given the
current circumstances it's highly probable he'll die by an air strike. He's the one that decided to open fire and kill his own people. He also
authorized the use of cluster munitions into residential neighborhoods.

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How about the rebels waging genocide on black africans in Libya? What is their fate huh?

Originally posted by annella
I for one hope Gaddafi IS targeted and gotten rid of one way or another. Regardless of talk about the US's interests....the man is killing his own
people, he became ' ruler ' by undemocratic means, he milks his country of wealth that should be shared with his people, he IS a terrorist himself,
and as far as his grandchildren? Any grandfather worth his salt would have had precious family members sent far away from sites of conflict.
He deserves anything thrown at him.

End of rant. ( and I never mentioned Lockerbie..)

If you are in fact a New Zealander, you illustrate my point perfectly, about the slavish abasement before all things American that most New Zealanders
do! Gotten, honestly!
Either you're not a New Zealander, you're under 20 and echoing what your bf told you, or you're just not terribly bright...

Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
Gadaffi is a good and brave man, and the cowerds that attack him, are nothing more then pig sh*t, compared to him.

Hes a terrorist that has killed thousands in his time, given bombs and funding to the IRA and planted the lockerbie bomber, hes also been killing his
own people with bombs and tanks, his own soldiers have even admitted that, what kind of "man" is this?? i call this more like an animal, along with
the other animals that can justify killing people and going to war, ie NATO.. there all a bunch of ruthless twats.

"war is not about whos right or wrong, its about whos left at the end"

The day we can live in a world of peace, without mindless killing and greed, that is the day when you will see a world of brave men and
women.

Ah well, next time they might just get Gadaffi. I don't see why Nato are waiting so long and using so many resources trying to "legally" make this
silly man leave and yet more and more of the Libyan citizens are being slaughtered.

Ah well, next time they might just get Gadaffi. I don't see why Nato are waiting so long and using so many resources trying to "legally" make this
silly man leave and yet more and more of the Libyan citizens are being slaughtered.

You are probably an American, arent you, or at least from one of the anglo-american countries? Otherwise you might not be filled the way you are, with
the propaganda BS of your media. You probably have no clue, what Gadaffi has done for his country and his people and you are blind of the Terrorism
your own country is spreading through out the world?

This is what pisses me off about these "operations" ... #1 , I don't agree with Gaddafi's family being killed... but I do understand WHY it was
done. I'm not a fan of "collateral damage" or civilian casualties , I'm not an "End justifies the means" guy either... that being said here's
the game, that everyone plays but nobody talks about.

Why don't we just assasinate him? the quick and easy is , we're not allowed to.... BUT , If he just HAPPENS to be in a building that we drop a
Paveway into or put a tomahawk through the front door of and by chance he were to sustain injuries that were incompatible with life during said
Raytheon induced explosion... we can always say... "Oops, we didn't know he was there with his family, or the HUMINT we received did not place him
there at that time" Plausible deniability.

Not that I agree with it, but if its gotta be done, do it old school... a Single 160gr Boat tail in the T... put the word out there... If you play
games..... we will kill you. No need for all of the civilian casualties, and damaged infrastructure.. BUT that'll never happen... Because that boat
tail costs $1.87 and your average price of a Tomahawk is $1,000,000 (Give or take $400,000 depending on model) ... The military industrial complex
won't run if we don't use up our weapons silly

So far we've used up about $130,000,000 worth of Raytheon's Finest in this "non war".
Maybe that and the AWESOME TAX BREAKS THEY GET will keep Raytheon, GE, General Dynamics, Northrop
and the rest of the weapons manufacturers in the black until armageddon.

Don't forget, In times of peace, these guys make less money... we can only store so many weapons and show so many on paper during each fiscal year...
If the Pentagon doesn't spend all of their money, defense spending would get reduced...Use it or lose it. So.... During times we are not actually at
war, we'll be in operations somewhere , fighting a war on something... dropping bombs on poor people. I wonder when the CEO's watch the footage on
CNN if they hear the Cha-Ching!! , of a cash register everytime they see an explosion?

Ah well, next time they might just get Gadaffi. I don't see why Nato are waiting so long and using so many resources trying to "legally" make this
silly man leave and yet more and more of the Libyan citizens are being slaughtered.

Ah well, next time "they" might get you. Dont scream when you find that someone has slipped an explosive devise under your ars...- Human life is
cheap. Its people like you, with comments like yours, that make it cheap.

Originally posted by EyesWideShut
This is what pisses me off about these "operations" ... #1 , I don't agree with Gaddafi's family being killed... but I do understand WHY it was done.
I'm not a fan of "collateral damage" or civilian casualties , I'm not an "End justifies the means" guy either... that being said here's the game, that
everyone plays but nobody talks about.

Why don't we just assasinate him? the quick and easy is , we're not allowed to.... BUT , If he just HAPPENS to be in a building that we drop a Paveway
into or put a tomahawk through the front door of and by chance he were to sustain injuries that were incompatible with life during said Raytheon
induced explosion... we can always say... "Oops, we didn't know he was there with his family, or the HUMINT we received did not place him there at
that time" Plausible deniability.

Not that I agree with it, but if its gotta be done, do it old school... a Single 160gr Boat tail in the T... put the word out there... If you play
games..... we will kill you. No need for all of the civilian casualties, and damaged infrastructure.. BUT that'll never happen... Because that boat
tail costs $1.87 and your average price of a Tomahawk is $1,000,000 (Give or take $400,000 depending on model) ... The military industrial complex
won't run if we don't use up our weapons silly

So far we've used up about $130,000,000 worth of Raytheon's Finest in this "non war". Maybe that
and the AWESOME TAX BREAKS THEY GET will keep Raytheon, GE, General Dynamics, Northrop and the rest
of the weapons manufacturers in the black until armageddon.

Don't forget, In times of peace, these guys make less money... we can only store so many weapons and show so many on paper during each fiscal year...
If the Pentagon doesn't spend all of their money, defense spending would get reduced...Use it or lose it. So.... During times we are not actually at
war, we'll be in operations somewhere , fighting a war on something... dropping bombs on poor people. I wonder when the CEO's watch the footage on CNN
if they hear the Cha-Ching!! , of a cash register everytime they see an explosion?

So you like people to be murderd, "the quick an easy way". Prepare for this hen to come back to your home and lay its egg right into your lap. With
statements like this you loosen up the moral that sais "You shall not kill"..

Ah well, next time they might just get Gadaffi. I don't see why Nato are waiting so long and using so many resources trying to "legally" make this
silly man leave and yet more and more of the Libyan citizens are being slaughtered.

Ah well, next time "they" might get you. Dont scream when you find that someone has slipped an explosive devise under your ars...- Human life is
cheap. Its people like you, with comments like yours, that make it cheap.

Comments make life cheap? Sentences make life cheap? I guess the 1st Amendment makes life cheap. Damn it!

The only life you have the insight and knowledge of to call cheap, is none but your own.

Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
So you like people to be murderd, "the quick an easy way". Prpare for this hen to come back to your home and lay its egg right into your lap..

All is fair in love and war. The dictator murdered his people "quick and easy"...so yeah, why not?

Indeed the cowboys love to show off what they have.
And yet they are like Uncle Scrooge when it comes to supplying troops in war with enough ammunition. Apparently each bullet is accounted for and there
definately isn't a never ending supply.

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