Re: Lips WRT Consonants, Was Re: my iconic alphabet

>When you compared the two sounds, my mouth felt compelled to say them
>aloud, as often happens when I read this mailing list. :) While listening
>to the difference, I noticed my lips are different too. In German <ch>
>/C/, my mouth is slightly open and my lips are pretty lax. In contrast,
>English <sh> /S/ makes my lips form almost the same position as for /u/,
>only slightly less tense.
>
>Is this true for others, or is it a personal eccentricity?
>

I've been told many times that this is how these consonants are
pronounced in general in English; I only do it before a rounded vowel,*
however.
*oo (/u;/) is not, it seems, rounded for the purposes of this in my
(Australian) English. Maybe it's more diphthongal than it sounds to me...

>If it's more
>general, is there some what to IPAify to lip position for a consonant?
>

Well, with liprounding, it becomes labialised, so I imagine [S_w] would
be it.
Tristan.