Help With SecuROM 7

Hi Guys. I recently 'purchased' two different driving theory disks and wish to back them up Anyway, i copied both disks using nero and now everytime i try to start each program a window comes up stating it's a backup version and to insert the original disk.

Because i'm stuck i now need help as i'm trying to find out how i can copy the original onto a cd-r so i can continue to use it.

I have used A Ray scanner to check if there was a protection problem and to find that both disks are copy protected with SecuROM 7.00.00.0004 and SecuROM 7.00.00.0001.

Is there anyway i can duplicate these disks so i can use them anywhere ?

Hi Guys. I recently 'purchased' two different driving theory disks and wish to back them up Anyway, i copied both disks using nero and now everytime i try to start each program a window comes up stating it's a backup version and to insert the original disk.

Because i'm stuck i now need help as i'm trying to find out how i can copy the original onto a cd-r so i can continue to use it.

I have used A Ray scanner to check if there was a protection problem and to find that both disks are copy protected with SecuROM 7.00.00.0004 and SecuROM 7.00.00.0001.

Is there anyway i can duplicate these disks so i can use them anywhere ?

Any info would be so greatful as i really need to get studying.

Thanks in Advance.

What I do know Nero is no good for backing up copy protected program...I know I used CloneCD to make game cd/dvd backup with "hide cdr" checked so the finished backup is recognized as original. But I haven't done it in some time but I might get a more recent game and try backing up the game to see if it still works.

Thanks for the reply coolcolors, i will try clone cd but reading up i think that it may have problems with SecuROM 7+ versions. Most of the threads i have seen are old threads so hoping there is a way around it.

Recommended apps for creating a virtual or physical emulated SecuROM backup are Alcohol 52%/120% and/or DAEMON Tools Pro. Whether you're mounting an image to a virtual drive or burning a physical RMPS copy, your drive needs to be capable of performing a so called DPM (Data Position Measurement).

Is there any method i could use to copy this disc 'like for like' without using any virtual devices ?

I intend to use it on a few different pc's so need to make a disc.

Would be good to know. Also re: these SecuROM versions, are there are certain versions that can be 'worked around' or do all SecuROM discs do this now ? If not, is there a list of versions which can be 'modded'.
Thanks Mate.

So what your saying is even with securom there is a way you can make a backup disc ?

Yes, follow the 2nd & 3rd link in Post#5 and you'll find guides for both methods.
When burning a RMPS copy some emulation info is stored on the backup disc.
But this info can only be utilized when RMPS emulation of Alcohol or DAEMON Tools is active in the background.
Twinpeak copies don't need emulation at all, but success depends on the drive.

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Originally Posted by Moosic

So now, should i start testing different DPM or is there an easier way like a piece of software that you check the DPM on the original disc ?

There are several programs, but their functional principle of DPM is basically the same.
There's no "short cut", so try different speed settings.

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Originally Posted by Moosic

How do you know what speed the drive is best at reading DPM ?

You can check the quality of the DPM in a graph.
SecuROM discs have one or more ranges with non-standard sector density - something you'll usually not find on recordable media. I've attached examples of clean and a "noisy" graph.
But even an apparently clean graph can fail the SecuROM check whereas one with little noise passes.
In the end it's safe to say: the faster the copy starts, the better the DPM was
Still, it's mostly a good first reference point.
To view a graph in Alcohol right-click your image in the list -> Properties -> Extra Info

I'm getting sucess with the twinpeaks on one of my discs, although i have had a few errors running it on different systems. A few different error message are :

1. Verify that the file exsists and that you can access it.
2. Unable to authenticate original disc within time limit
3. 65% loaded and looking for audio\annex3.mp3
4. 91% loaded and looking for audio\annex3mp3
5. 90% install then error reading file

I brought another cd-rom today that i wish to copy. This one is over five years old. This one i have scanned with Burnout and that tells me the disc is protected with Safedisc 2 - 4. Is there a way around this to back it up onto disc without problems ?

As i take it it's not just the single disc check but the app needs data from the disc all the time,
or in other words: there is no 'Full installation' option and the disc needs always to be present.
As already suggested Twinpeak copies can be problematic - if some of your drives don't like them there
is not much you can do about that. They're no standard CDs - compared to them RMPS is more hassle-free.

Regarding Safedisc:
Similar situation as with Twinpeak: if you don't want any emulation success depends on the hardware.
With emulation it's no problem - either as RMPS copy or mounted in a virtual drive.
Again, you'll find more info in our guides section ...and in other threads dealing with Safedisc.

One last question to finish it off - Regarding twinpeak copy's. I can get a backup copy working fine on the pc i'm using now, but other pc's seem to have problems installing. What do you think if i made a normal cloned copy of the original disc which then i could install on a pc, but after switch the disk with the twinpeak version ?