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quote:Originally posted by SGH42 Do you think a Pronto is worth getting then ?

Trying to convince myself but the cost is a downer !

i think the Pronto is worth getting and there only £153 inc PP from Richer Sounds web site. the new colour ones are even better but you will need a big income to justify spending so much on a control alone.

If you're one of those people who operate the TiVo remote by feel, or you need to put your reading glasses on to read the labels on the remote, you are not going to like the Pronto. There is no tactile feedback, and you have to check the display to find out which screen you are on and to find where the buttons are. I also think the monochrome display is very poor quality. I have one but rarely use it.

can't find 0 or 9 though (not in the range 590 - 605 anyway. Although looking at the list now I can see a pattern of sorts but I can't work out what 0 and 9 will be...one for the mathematicians amongst us

I found that my OFA 6 with 0722 code had 5 programmed into the 0 key (which expains why I could not get the 30sec skip to work with SPS30S). Spoke to OFA CS and got the code for 0 - Magic 665. ( Does not fit into any patten that I can see.)

Does anyone happen to know the OneForAll magic code for TiVo TV Volume Up/Down? I have just had my OneForAll6 upgraded (to add the Pace DigiCable 4000 box) and I now seem to have lost the ability to control theTV Volume when I am in TiVo mode. (I know I could just press TV change the volume and then press TiVo again - but it worked OK before)

quote:Originally posted by iankb
If you're one of those people who operate the TiVo remote by feel, or you need to put your reading glasses on to read the labels on the remote, you are not going to like the Pronto.

I ended up getting a Pronto Neo for that reason. It's got 13 programmable hard buttons - just enough for the major functions. Means I can operate it in the dark

quote:Originally posted by iankb If you're one of those people who operate the TiVo remote by feel, or you need to put your reading glasses on to read the labels on the remote, you are not going to like the Pronto. There is no tactile feedback, and you have to check the display to find out which screen you are on and to find where the buttons are. I also think the monochrome display is very poor quality. I have one but rarely use it.

Ian.

I agree with you 100%. I bought a Pronto and I have sold it 4 weeks later for just those reasons. I realised just how much I use remote controls by touch and despite the Pronto being a clever and versatile device it was not for me!

quote:Originally posted by Olly I agree with you 100%. ... I realised just how much I use remote controls by touch

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one. There are so many Pronto fanatics on this forum, I began to think that I was the only one who didn't like it. I think that most owners don't like to admit that they wasted their money, or are too proud of their Pronto programming to ignore the inconvenience.

I have the pronto - but am thinking of getting the Neo - (which bizzarely is cheaper) for just the reasons above - BUT - anyone have any problems with getting it to learn the codes? Does it use the same CCF codes as a normal pronto?

I've just got the Kameleon - not bad. Have managed to configure it for the TV, XBox (Dvd), Video and Tivo.

I would like to be able to program the red and green buttons (normally used for teletext) to function as thumbs up and down. Is this possible as they do not illuminate in the VCR mode that was copied to the Sat mode for Tivo use? Is ther a way of turning off unused buttons and turning on required ones - Guide would be nice but only appears on Sat and not in the mode I am using for the Tivo.

quote:Originally posted by guydewdney I have the pronto - but am thinking of getting the Neo - (which bizzarely is cheaper) for just the reasons above - BUT - anyone have any problems with getting it to learn the codes? Does it use the same CCF codes as a normal pronto?

Guy

There's a new-ish Philips remote for 6 devices for £44 at Argos, much cheaper and the Neo doesn't have agood write up.

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Oh and before i forget add me to the I hate the Pronto club, can't stand waking the device with one touch and then having LOOK at it to use it. My "using" lasted about 15 minutes and I never took it out of the box again. Should put it on eBay really.