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Releasing the draw on the eve of a Badminton tournament

Perhaps, our members here at Badminton Central can vote on this practice suggested by the Badminton World Federation (BWF).

Poll: Releasing the draw on the eve of a Badminton tournament:
(1) Vote for it
(2) Vote against it

Below is the article saying that BWF is wishing to try it.

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Saturday April 5, 2008The Star

Badminton: A first for ABC meetBy Rajes Paul

PETALING JAYA: For the first time ever, shuttlers competing in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) will not know who their opponents are until the eve of the tournament.

This is because the draw for the ABC meet, scheduled to be held from April 15-20 in Johor Baru, will only be conducted during the team managers' meeting on April 14.

The ABC is the last tournament offering Asian players the chance to win Olympic qualifying points.

Yesterday, Badminton Asia Confederation (BAC) chief operating officer (COO) Karen Koh said that they decided to hold the draw a day before the tournament to make it more exciting.

Another reason was to avoid changes and replacements in the draw due to last-minute withdrawals.

“Sometimes, re-draws have to be done because the seeded players withdraw at the eleventh hour. This time, the draw will only be done after the team managers have confirmed their players’ entries,” said Karen. “We are trying this out for the first time in a BAC tournament after the executive council gave us the nod. We also asked the hosts – the BAM (Badminton Association of Malaysia) – and they agreed, saying it was a good idea.”

“The draw will be conducted during the team managers’ meeting and everyone will get to see how it is done. This will leave no room for people to question the validity of the draw.”*

Karen said that this (releasing the draw on the eve of a tournament) could become a permanent practice in the Badminton World Federation’s (BWF) Super Series eventsif the badminton fraternity welcomed it.

On the entries of the players for the ABC, she said the list would be released today.

“The world's best will be coming to Malaysia to compete in this meet. We are determining the seedings of the players based on the latest world rankings. The BAC will release the full cast tomorrow,” she said.

National No. 1 Lee Chong Wei, who is aiming to regain the title which he last won in 2006, will spearhead Malaysia challenge.

Sandy's PAW games is now in jeopardy

Originally Posted by chris@ccc

What do you think and how would you vote?

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Oh, I've forgotten to mention how I would vote.

Yes, I would vote for it...... that is, to hold the draw a day before the tournament. It should be more fun and more exciting to hold the draw a day before the tournament when all the players, coaches and team managers are there in attendance.

But for members@Badminton Central playing our Sandy's PAW games, it would be chaotic I suppose.

This is definitely not a good excuse for a poor planning and execution. As we have seen in many Asian tournaments (GP India is a very obvious one), Asian organisers need to learn a lot from their Europe counterpart.

Till now, we still do not have the list of players for Asian Championship published, while Euro has finalized the draw.

Even smaller tournament like Polish & Finnish Open can do much better than them.

Asia is the powerhouse in the game, but a sloppy organizer in general. That contribute to the lower status of Badminton compared to Tennis.

And why they cannot play? Do they find out they cannot play after the draw is made?

Only injury is the legitimate excuse once the association has decided to send a player.

We've heard of players not being able to get visas but really, let's face it, that's really poor preparation by the team manager or the team coach confirming entries very late.

What I mean is if the draw is made within a day...reserve players do not know whether they will make it into the draw or not ..especially after manager's meeting...The Manager meeting usually starts 5 pm on Monday ..so reserve players should be there at the host's country...what happens if no one withdraws...so money spent on reserve players are wasted....thats the concern from federation especially for asian players where to get European visas need one week to 10 days...
Visa for UK alone costs INA players Rp 4 million rupiahs or US$ 370 per person.

Yes, I would vote for it...... that is, to hold the draw a day before the tournament. It should be more fun and more exciting to hold the draw a day before the tournament when all the players, coaches and team managers are there in attendance.

But for members@Badminton Central playing our Sandy's PAW games, it would be chaotic I suppose.

So sorry that Sandy's PAW games is now in jeopardy.
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In some post I wasn't agree about centralize drawing who held a long time before the tournament started.

In PAW WTA (when I run it for 4 years), Drawing held mostly in Friday for Qualifying and Saturday for Main Draw. Qualifying started to play in Saturday and 1st round started from Monday.

Perhaps it is harder to organise tournaments in Asia

Originally Posted by hhs1000

This is definitely not a good excuse for a poor planning and execution. As we have seen in many Asian tournaments (GP India is a very obvious one); Asian organisers need to learn a lot from their Europe counterpart.

Till now, we still do not have the list of players for Asian Championship published, while Euro has finalized the draw.

Even smaller tournament like Polish & Finnish Open can do much better than them.

Asia is the powerhouse in the game, but a sloppy organizer in general. That contribute to the lower status of Badminton compared to Tennis.

Just my 2 cents.

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Hi hhs1000,

Correct me if I am wrong, but I found that there are more players withdrawing from Asian tournaments at the last moment compared to from European tournaments.

It must be because there are more Asians playing in Asia than in Europe. Asian players are known for withdrawing at the last moment.

Perhaps it is because of this that it is harder to organise tournaments in Asia.

(+) It avoids or minimises redraws. For instance, some players choose to withdraw after receiving a unfavorable draw if the draw is done much earlier.
(+) It ensures more balanced quarters caused by last minute withdrawal by seeded players.
(+) It guarantees certain degrees of suprises in terms of draw.

Welcomed for big events like Super Series and Worlds and Olympics but other than that not welcomed, maybe not even for Super Series. Big federations can probably afford to take the risk but smaller ones surely can't.