So after about six months of research and saving I'm getting ready to buy my first boat. I've been quoted a price from a dealer, but I'm hesitant to go through on the deal.... mostly because sometimes I think these guys would sell the skin off their own back. Is this a good deal, just about average, or worse?

The wakeplate is not essential, but it allows you customize wake shape. Have it up for a big wakeboard wake, or down for a flat slalom wake. It can also be used to shape the wake for wakeboarding, we use ours alot if we have someone who is new to wakeboarding, up it down a bit to make the wake more managable. If sure there are many other uses people have found....It is a great thing to have, our next boat won't be without one.

the wake plate will shape the wake. It takes a little of the peak off of the top and makes it more of a ramp.

It decreases the size of the wake. But make draving boat on plane a lot better as it helps prevent porpoising._________________"I don't understand...what is this NO WAKE zone you speak of?...and what does it mean?"

I think the nonV moombas are only good for enrty level or intermediate level of rider do to the wakes not being the best.The wakes are rounded and soft but overall a good boat though and sounds like a good deal but beware the wakes are not world class for wakeboarding.._________________"Thanks for Play'n"

Sorry to give you some bad news, but the 02 Outback cannot be fitted with the stock wake plate. However the 03 can. I have an 01 (same as the 02) and I love it. The price was right and you'll find skiers choice to be great in the customer service department. It is true what what people say about the wake it isn't pro level....but neither are most riders. I use about 1200 lbs in ballast with 4 on the crew and I can produce a wake that is waaay fun( that is the point right?) Little soft and rampy not rounded, if anything it is a little too vertical but you get used to it ( if that starts to depress me I just look in my wallet at all the extra cash)......get it and you won't be sorry...the two options I would add if I were you would be the bow filler cushion (turns the front into a playpen, and you can stick a fat sack underneath) and the 320hp EFI...(Tthe EFI will help resale)......Good luck and have fun.

I'm not sure about the wakeplate but you need to be careful when talking about the Outback because the Outback and the Outback LS are different boats, my 2001 Outback does not have the same hull as a 2001 Outback LS, from what I understand.

I will try to clear some confusion about this topic. As stated before, the 2002 Outback and 2002 Outback LS are 2 totally different boats. I am assuming that Ben is referring to the 2002 Outback LS due to his comment about the front and rear ballast. The 2002 LS has a front ski locker and the 02 Outback does not, which allows the LS to have the optional front ski locker ballast bag. The hull on these 2 boats are quite different as well. The LS (which does have the same hull as the 02 mobius and the LSV) has a hull that will create a larger wake with better shape than the 02 Outback. As far as the comments about having to add a lot of weight to create a big wake that is all relative to how big a wake you want. Some people think 1000 lbs. is a lot of weight and some people think 3000 lbs. is a lot of weight. The best thing to do is try the boat out for yourself and YOU decide how you like the boat. Good luck in your boat search.

and then the deal will absolutly haul ass even iff u pay more than what u are gunna ($25,000) or somthing but even iff the price goes to say $27,000 that will be fine cause a wakeplate and perfect pass will cost alot_________________{R.I.P Mark Kenney}

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