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Tuesday, October 9, 2012

BODIES SNATCHED: LAZCA POST COMMENTS PART 2

Chivis Martinez Borderland BeatComments are not posting on the Lazca Killed Post ..we may have maxed out..I apologize but there are many that were approved and not published. For now, use this post for all comments. . Post comments on this post Thank you!.

Rio Doce is reporting this is Lazca

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Full Statement of PJGE and SEMAR( Sec of Navy):

Regarding the
press release 196/12 given by this institution, yesterday, where it is informed
about the killing of two alleged members of the organized crime, Secretariat of
Navy informed the indications that signal that one of the bodies belong to
Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano (aka) “El Lazca”, leader of the Criminal Organization
of “Los Zetas”.

After
researching in the data bases, the fingerprints of the thumb, index and middle
finger, taken from the right hand of one of the killed criminals, the following
demographic data was obtained:

Name: Lazcano Lazcano Heriberto

Year of Birth: 1975

Sex: Male

Height: 1.60 mts.

On the other hand, the analysis of the
photographs of the killed criminal that is annexed to this press release, show
that the facial features match those of Heriberto Lazcano. (photo above was attached to press release)

With the information and samples
gathered during the autopsy, the expert evidence continues to be examined and tested.

Regarding the versions that were
disseminated in different press media, related to the location of the fallen
criminals, this information release confirm what was said on the press release 196/12,
in the sense that in addition to the material, they were made available to
local authorities for, integrating APP/535/2012 Preliminary Investigation on
the First Board of the Public Ministry in Sabinas, Coahuila.Note: the last paragraph means, they were finished with their exam and collections of evidence and released the bodies to the funeral parlor and the Sabinas police. The APP/535/2012 is the case number of the Sabinas police. This may explain why the bodies were no longer under guard. Some reports say federal authorities did not know at that point the identity of the dead men, however, autopsies are rarely done in Mexico, especially is small cities, the fact that it was conducted in this case, lends itself to the thought they knew the indentification of the dead man as being Lazcano. When the custody of the body was completed they transferred custody to the state and local authorities.

President Calderon speaks:

"Today
I want to express my appreciation to the Navy of Mexico because the evidence
clearly indicates that Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, aka The Lazca, was killed
while resisting the authority as a result of an operation implemented by the
Navy, Sunday in Progreso, Coahuila "

Here is the scenario of the body snatching, I translated from the video this narrative:

This happened after the Marina saw a suspicious vehicle and asked them to
stop. They refused and the shootout began, killing the driver of the
truck.The passenger was able to flee temporarily
but was stopped and killed in a hail of bullets from the Marina.

Beside him was a
weapon known as R-15. After searching
him, they found a driver's license with the name of Mario Alberto Rodriguez
Rodriguez.

The other suspect wasn't identified since he had no
documents with him.

Both bodies were taken to the Funeral Parlor Garcia of
Sabinas.After arriving at the funeral home, the agents proceeded to take
fingerprints, as well as photographs of the bodies to proceed with identification.Later an autopsy would be conducted to
determine the cause of death.

At 8:05 on October 8th the owner of the funeral
home reported 1:00 and 1:30 of the same day, an armed commando with faces
covered, (masks) entered the funeral
home.After restraining the funeral home personnel, the gunmen took the two bodies after placing them in a hearseand forcing the owner to drive the vehicle.

Meanwhile experts continued
with the investigation and identifying the suspects.After conducting
a search of the finger print data base ,the fingerprints of the thumb,
index and middle taken of the right hand of one of the killed suspects, matched those belonging to Lazcano Lazcano
which was born in 1975.

In a statement, the Navy of Mexico and Coahuila PGJE (state attorney general) confirmed "that based on the analysis of photographs and fingerprints of an alleged criminal killed over the weekend after a confrontation in Sabinas, Coahuila, it was found that matched Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano".

Look what happend with elchapos son so only a DNA can be confirmed I bet a lot of people will lose sleep until it I confirmed makes you wk see if this was him why didn he grave a lot of bodyguards like el chapo does and you know now that z-40 is new capo if true makes you wk der I he will get the same connections as el lazca had and will there be an honoring for him like there was for z-1 still can't beleive that this man was so private and very few pictures of him as well as information the zetas were always known for the reputation of 40 but I do beleive that el Taliban had something to do with this there's no way that a big time capo gets caught off guard there's not to the story that should come to light an still a good question is what was he doing in Coahuila wonder what the zetas next move will be its gonna be a very interesting month

Has anyone noticed that the truck appears to be armored to some extent?Look at the windows,they may have stopped some bullets,but that many,specially if the doors are opened,wouldn't make a difference?One report sayin he was topped as he was on his toes runnin with an AR?

By looking at the pics I would say that's definitely the same dude(Lazca). Compare the nostrils and see that they are uneven and very distinct, also the upper lip. Not to mention the jaw and hair line, eyes size and shape.

All these facial features can be altered or made to look similar to someone else's features with plastic surgery but not the ears and these are not clearly shown in the photos....More evidence required otherwise even him being dead or not dead will remain an enigma.

LOL!! The Mexican govt is beyond pathetic!! Letting armed men steal the body of the worlds #2 fugitive...hahaha. This is an obvious ploy. This is the best the Mexican govt can come up with? They faked Lazcas death guaranteed. If they really killed him they would have guarded his body period. What a joke, nice try Calderon and Zetas. Idiots.

Your fucking stupid they only show his head you fucking momo I don't know if your the only one who can see a persons whole body from there head, ohh yeah lazca drink this its poison, wow your fucking incompetent I can't believe you actually wrote that

If it's not him, why did they just steal his body from the funeral home? Or do they usually steal the body of the wrong guy? He will be eternally ass raped with hitler, Bin Laden, Obama's dad, and Stalin in a matter of minutes. I guess this IS the retirement plan for narco's?

el senor lazca is not dead dios mio he looks like hes from guatemala no disrespect to the people from guatemala im telling you guys hes alive and well the military were close to him thats why i guess this apportunity presented itself and hes taking advantage of it he was seen at a private party with el inginiero and his family and lazca with his bodyguars im telling you that guy does not look like him not even close look at the lips bone cheeks and the most important the body vanishing if they had suspicious of the guy being who he is why fucken let him go oh yeah just like EL SENOR COLORES RAMON ARELLANO FELIX know theres peope within the organization saying hes still alive and just wanted to take a long break oh yeah the body also vanished EL COLORES IS ALIVE AND LAZCA

Get over it. He is DEAD. It was confirmed via finger prints (which the military already had since he was ex military) and DNA, not through pics. This guy knew better than to move with a big convoy that the military would've turned into swiss cheese from the sky, at the end the outcome was the same and he is now dead. The military and and marines hated lazca as much as everyone else, to negotiate a deal with him was out of the question. Look at the big bad osiel, he didn't fake his death and is now in a federal prison in the USA singing like a jolly canary. Most of the problems you see in Mexico right now can be directly linked to the scum know as the z.

Chivis w/ Lazca news has overloaded the system! You know how rare that is? You go Chivis! Good work keeping up with everything with both Lalo and Lazca. We're all better and earlier informed because you are the energizer bunny! Thanks Chivis!

This Is Not Beto or how you guys call him Heriberto Lazcano.This is just an example like Saddam Husein and Ossama,working doubles.But atleast come on Beto and the corrupted politics from coahuila you should of atleast expend some money on plastic surgery.Im just just exhausted of this drama.But its all the Upper Mafia.The PRI & PAN.

This guys is worth tens of millions and tha whole country is after his ass and he goes with just a couple guys to watch a Mexican baseball game? Bro, it's called direct tv. You can actually afford to watch good baseball it's called the MLB playoffs. Definetly z40 or ardilla or both that gave info on his whereabouts. What a circus down there. God help Mexico.

You need people like lazca to point your fuckin finger and say thats the bad guy... wat that make u gud? R.I.P lazca people talk dwn on these guys but dnt understand their situations....blame america and all the politicians for the violence they fuel it with the devil$ paper. PONDER ON THT

Who ever has body wonder what there gng with it would be interesting if another group got a hold of the body z40 wouldn't care hes on top now I bet hes gng to celebrate his new promotion the rat his days coming and if zetas have the body how r they gng to dispose if body seeing that he has built his own Pantheon for his resting place wheres sinaloa they're laying real low.

Well this just means that the next one is la chapparra. If escobar got busted and he was worth billions not one but billions and he was canceled. Lets hope he gets his sooner for triggering most of all this that left mexico to shit. what do uoy think chivis will happen? I think there will be alot of killings in the coming days.

Thanks Chivas once again great reporting!! As to the naysayers, it was reported that FINGERPRINTS identified him, accept it he is dead. A pic from years ago and a death photo with swelling will not produce a exact match. None of these guys ever look like like we think when they are captured or killed.

@Chivis, I am confused on the timeline. The shootout occurred Sun. afternoon. I thought the AG said in the interview that the body got to the Funeral Home at 8:05. I thought he meant 8:05 last night, but whichever, morning or eve., the body snatch didn't occur until 1:30 on Tue. morning? there is no way they can explain why the funeral home was not guarded. Surely they had the fingerprints back by then. Even if they didn't, I would think if all they knew was that they had a Zeta corpse they would have some kind of security there. Has there been any news on where funeral director Garcia was "forced" to take the body, or when or why or where he was released safely? I don't think my source here is going to give me anything about that. DD

Not enuff eveidence for me. smells like a fish taste like a fish, someting fishy. I think it aint him. Hes always with his comando, impossible for it to be lazca. They could of killed alot of marina. Lazca no anda solo. I

>Your fucking stupid they only show his head you fucking momo >I don't know if your the only one who can see a persons whole body from >there head, ohh yeah lazca drink this its poison, wow your fucking >incompetent I can't believe you actually wrote that

Have you missed the picture(last one) where you can see his front with the black shirt? You only see some powder and some wet area in the middle but I can't see any kind of blood. Even with some hollow point bullet to the back I would expect to see blood as there is no cleaning visible.

4:55 PM "You need people like lazca to point your fuckin finger and say thats the bad guy"Whos been watching scarface to much?Im the bad guy,no your the bad guy,no hes the bad guy.Guess what?LAZCA IS DEAD,WHAT IS SO UNBELIEVABLEDid you people think the bullets would bounce off him?HE IS DEAD ON THE SLAB,THERE HE IS,LOOKING AT YOU?NO CONSPIRACIES.DEAD.

Are you people for real or what?He is dead you idiots?What is it gonna take?Lazcano to jump off the table and say"im fuckin dead,do you think im joking"You sheep cannot even believe your own eyes"its not his ears,nose,throat,hair,balls"get a fuckin grip.I know a lot of you wanted his love child,but your to late.He got caught slippin and he got one in the belly,end of story.Dead.

Holy shit,people still cannot believe it?Here he is lying on a slab,been fingerprinted,his crew did the classic steal the body of the leader.And you all still think it aint him?C,mon man.Lazcano is dead as a fuckin dodo,get over it.

DD said..Not enuff eveidence for me. smells like a fish taste like a fish,and i know the smell of fish.Has there been any news on where funeral director Garcia was "forced" to take the body,or where they playing spank the monkey with it or when or why or where he was released safely? I don't think my source here is going to give me anything about that. DD

DD said... I don't think my source here is going to give me anything about that. DD,,but whichever, morning or eve., the body snatch didn't occur until 1:30 on Tue.Say what,your source?Whos that,a 10 year old kid buying ice cream?Or do you mean you like sauce with your chips?Ask your source who his source is?You show me yours and ill show you mine,what do you say?Even if they didn't, I would think if all they knew was that they had a Zeta corpse they would have some kind of security there.DD

A few months ago the news said there was a shoot out in Matamoros and they said they had shot Lasca and his men took the body. It turned out to be untrue. Now the same thing happened and again his body was taken. Is this some king of game?

earlaps are the easiest thing for surgery tochange! idk whether its him or not, but i think he was smart enough to use surgery to change his appearance and detaching his lobes, wouldnt even require going under anesthetia! detaching lobes could be done in any dr's office! -BOSSton

I don't get why the Zeta's would take his body if all the funeral home was going to do was hold his funeral then put him to rest, I assume in the Mausoleum he had built last year. If they take him its doubtful he will end up in that mausoleum which is what Lazca would want.

I don't get it. He's protected by the army and has Hal ones in every corner who instantly report any movement, any he got surprised by a Marine convoy?!!!! It makes no sense....and what was he doing in a ford ranger? Even if it's meant to be low key why in a tiny truck? Really? I believe he's dead but the story is much more twisted than what they are saying.

If as reported the body was carrying no ID and the positive identification from the dead man's fingerprints was not in the cops' possession until after the corpse was handed over to the "family", why did they release the body? Is it the official line that Lazco's family claimed his remains or did some random group of people claim him as a "family member" before his "true" identity became known? The sequence of events doesn't add up. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

@ -BOSStonWhat the hell are"earlaps"Is that a mortuary term?I have never heard of it,in a technical sense?Is it the lower portion of the ear?I do seem to recall hearing about piss flaps,but i wouldn't know if the meaning is the same,and can you measure them the same way?Also his fingernails dont seem to look the same,they are a different shape?How would you account for this?-Senb

tough call, but if it IS NOT Lazca, why the worry and effort about stealing the body back? Zeta trying to disprove that Lazca is dead? and anyone think over the years, people A)Do change how they look and B)wouldn`t be the first Capo to have plastic surgery. I think he had his ears done as they stuck out like a sore thumb. Chin, nostrils and eyes are dead on, forehead and ears look different

There sure seems to be alot of the guys from that area going down in one way or another. With Lazca out of the way, Trevino can't be far behind. That "squirrel aka geek from retardville" no disrespect for these with real disabilities, he is probaly chirping away as we speak. As someone stated on another post he acted like he was getting a award while being presented. He truly appeared to be totally off and mentally unstable, like it was exciting to be in that position. If he was involved in that David Hartley murder hopefully he will be sent to the states and no escaping for him. Sorry for the off topic comments.

Some of you guys are complete morons. He is dead. His number was up. The faces match. The nose and eyebrows are an exact match. They took the body so it wouldn't be disrespected. What else do you need to know?

Soldiers do not get any reward for capturing or killing wanted people in the line of duty. The corpse was actually stolen from lazca's family, not from the government. The government gave the body to the family and after that it wasn't their responsibility. No soldiers or marines were guarding it at the private funeral home!!! Sedena and PGR have what they need. His DNA, prints, and dead pics.

The army protects him, coahuila is zeta territory, he's got halcones in every corner reporting by radio any military movement, AND HE GOT SURPRISED BY A MARINE CONVOY?!!! WHILE HE "LAID LOW" IN A FORD FUCKING RANGER?!!!! Does anyone else find this story a bit a little hard to believe? If so then what are your theories?

Yeah thats not a ford ranger in the pic....plus the post about the timeline of events is a lil confusing.....hey moderator could u fo a visual timeline. Plus it even sounds like its all bs...I wanna see the body like they did with arturo beltran. Whats next the marina gave him a traditional mexican/catholic burial and dumped him in the ocean????lmao I really hope its him but we have been down this path before....remember chapos son....or a few weeks ago in piedras negras rumors said z-40 OR z-42 had been killed. We need proof, nothing is more sure than a bullet rittled body

Comandante Ardilla Aka EL Squirrel is singin songs to avoid the lethal inject... Sumbody cut his nuts off. There is no way the Marines cud of got the jump on lazca. Squirrel gave up confidential locations so they cud draw dwn on lazca.

As I said when the death photos first surfaced his jawline, temples and eye placement are a perfect match. Lazca is dead lets move on to 40 now please commenters lol. I've never seen so many people chatting on here it's crazy!!! ElCoChiLoco2012

Well perhaps the story is not being reported how it really went down however it doesn't change the fact that he is DEAD. More facts will probably come up but once again no matter what happened he is DEAD.

That motherfucker is dead why else would they steal his body?????Quit denying it its him on the table his face matches the pictures Its hard to believe its him you never hear shit about him only 40 but fuck it he's dead

Saw a video claiming to be on site when Lazca got sprayed with bullets....the problem with that video there is no truck, just a white four door car. I read in other stories he was in a white Ford ranger and also saw photos of that ranger. The green truck that was on this site was a full size Ford pickup.Someone wants us to believe he is already dead so he can go into witness protection. Why isn't there photos of his bullet wounds if he ” supposedly ” took his own life? No chest wounds are visible to the heart or the head. Where else would he have shot himself at?

You conspiracy theorists irritate me. Is it so difficult to believe he was more than likely sold out by Z40? There has already been internal fighting going on and reports of a split between the two of them. Now all of a sudden he is dead so easily. Z40 gets what he wanted, to be leader and do as he pleases with no one else "above" him. He is power hungry, it was only a matter of time before he got tired of not being the top person in charge whenever he is the one who works alongside his people at a grassroots level. Why is it so hard for you to believe that he could have been betrayed by his own people who were siding with Z40?

cant be him, to many moles on the dead guy! the story doesnt make sence cuz its lazcano. top ranking zeta from the 1st 20, none of them died like this. lascano would of been with his comando or they say he got hit in the belly, hes a big boss why wouldnt he be wearing a vest. also he would go out with a r15. hahahahaha its not making sense hes a FUKIN MEXICAN NAVY SEAL! also they ford ranger, that thing is not a for ranger...i see a makaveli zeta

no i dont find it hard too believe,like that boss of the resistencia said ur safer on your own,he just wasnt expecting somebody too snitch him in from the baseball game,i find it a bit strange how they picked him off so easily cause he does look bit different....but someone had a sharp eye.Now Z-40 is leader,he would be pissed off right about now,but it is a warning too him,he is gonna learn from this.He was a Soldier,they got the autopsy done they dont need the body anymore,so out of respect they didnt guard the body,cause they new his people would come for the Lazca......RIP soldier of fortune.

¿ Is there at least ONE computer generated foto, a 'Hand Out' given to media outlets--the foto being a potentially 'propaganda tool' to say the least & we're still trying to figure out what the REAL TRUTH might be as regards to Z-40's 'supposed DEMISE / Mortality!?

¿Why?, if Z-40 has been such an important PARASITE To Get Rid Of ¿have we Not Been Handed fotos that show the WOUNDED Areas or body parts destroyed by military action?, soooo important for the world to see, witness? -- and THAT is what gets me into "I don't know what to believe and "I / We don't have to believe what the media is telling me / Us" -- and I'm not alone ¿am I, ¿are we?

Why is it so hard to believe that he was being low key with just a couple of guys with him? I mean he was in his own territory and why would you want to attract the attention of the military travelling in a huge convoy with hundreds of bodyguards? He probably would have escaped notice if someone hadn't ratted him out.

1. He was at a baseball game surrounded by armed bodyguards.2. An "anonymous" tip to the marina informed of armed men at the game.3. As the Marina arrived at the game the guards ran in different directions leaving Lazcano with two guards.4. They were killed as they tried to flee in their vehicle by more Marina coming into town to help in the shootout.5. There was no forensics lab (SEMEFO) in the small town so they took the bodies to a funeral parlor.6. They took the fingerprints and the pictures and left the body there because they tought it was just another bigshot who was killed.7. After the "commando" snatched the body, the Marina was alerted.8. They proceeded to investigate the identities of the body because for the snatch to occur it must have been a big fish they killed.9. They matched the fingerprints to Lazcano in their database.

Since the Zetas do control that territory and have halcones everywhere; it does seem like a betrayal from Z40.

It is said that Lazcano had been spending much time in Europe working logistics while Z40 was in the front lines. And that Lazca came back to Mex because of all the mess Z40 and the rest of the bosses were causing to the organization. This gave Z40 the opportunity to snatch most of the power from Lazca.

The argument that it was not Lazca because he was not surrounded by 50 or 300 bodyguards is not valid. This guy maintained a low profile.

Pablo Escobar, Arturo Beltran, and others have died with only a couple of guards at their side. That's what happens when you got the heat so high you gotta lay low and hide in plain sight.

I like this explanation and it's the best I've heard so far. That being said I still have questions. In his territory why would he have to lay soooo low that he was in a dam ford ranger? Why wouldn't that piece if shit truck at least be bullet proof? Last and not least, with so many halcones how could a FUCKING CONVOY OF MARINES GO UNNOTICED?!!!!!!!!!

UNLESS THE D.E.A IS THE ONE THAT CONFIRMS ITS LAZCANO AND THEY FOR SURE ARE THE ONES THAT TOOK FINGERPRINTS ILL BELIEVE HE IS DEAD. IM NOT BELIEVING ANY MEXICO JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ON THIS ONE. SORRY TO SAY THIS GUYS BUT LAZCANO MAY WELL STILL BE ALIVE.

Marines never leave a man behind, Z fuckers would always retrieve the corpses of their fallen in the beggining , supposedly to pay their respects in private and have a send off party. But the main reason was the Military code of not leaving a man behind. But ultimatly - Good riddence and may all his victims forever haunt his family.MM38

Why would the government want to guard the body? They wouldnt. Who cares. The point of killing Lazca is to make him cease to operate. The govt doesnt care if we believe them or not. Much like Bin Laden, they dont need to prove shit. As long as Lazca isnt out there killing people, we dont need to show off the body. Why does everyone have such a hard time believing he's dead? He had a what 10 year run as leader? 15 years as a cartel member? He shoulda been dead years ago, lucky he made it this long.

I believe he's dead....BUT.....there is a picture that has me scratching my head. It's the picture where he's laid out on the table still wearing his black shirt...if you look at hi left arm it's sticking up. It's not by his side like someone who got shot...it's bent like rigor mortis (stiffness) has already set in. I'm a paramedic, but he doesn't look like he died in a shoot out. Maybe he was held in a cell then killed?

All the facial features are there.. will see what the DNA test result are.. hopefully thy get Chapo next... At least Lazcano went out like a boss.. he didn't allowed himself to get captured and be sent to the US... Marina chingense al pinche Chapo ya tambien..

Let wait and see if the body appears in his Pantheon as he would have wanted or maybe it was all set up by him to see if a double would go unnoticed in public and of course the double was caught proving a theory that if it were him hes would have gotten caught dont know if its part of a bigger plan .Maybe he orchestraded his death to start a new life in another country so many endless possibilities now pay attention when he was in the vehicle there was an I d with him with the name mario Alberto Rodriguez Rodriguez pull that name up on the data base and see how many faces appear under that name to confirm if it is a double the dead body, Also maybe an armed group came because if it were not the real lazcano the double the government would have confirmed thru DNA thru fingerprints the Mexican government can say ya it was him just to give Calderon a couple of brownie before he leaves.DNA. Cannot be duplicated thats why they US hasn't confirmed on it's at this point its anybody's guess if its him so be it power to the people. If not then we just have to wait and see where the body ends up. If it was lazcano z40 set him up to be there and if it were a double than lazcano has a bigger plan for himself my two cents peace next.

nice vidso that's the field? another great effort chivis, i enjoyed the continual updating, exciting. I noticed del narco just posted the story you had about the acuna police chief. any more on that story?

Facial shape on Lazcano's photo and on the alleged computer match don't match. The former is triangle-like, the latter is ellipsoid. Impossible for plastic surgery. Another proof of faked Lazcano's death and evidence.

What soul? This guy had thousands of people killed, extorted, kidnapped, raped, etc....... the list goes on and on. The autrocities they commited against the mexican people can never be erased. What's done is done. So will I pray for his soul? Should we pray for his soul? Its hard to pray for a soul that was lost long ago!

I can understand people doubting this story before the photo's and official confirmation, but the shit some people are dribbling... the conspiracys and some of the stories people are makign up... DAMN HILARIOUS!!!

So the marines spotted lazcano holding his Ar-15 while patting a giant easterbunny and giving out eggs to the children from the neighbourhood at a baseball game where the new york yankee's were playing the FBI for the world championship when all of a sudden lazcano saw the marines and picked up the easterbunny and wedged a 40mm grenade in its mouth and threw it at the marines, they fired back and shot him in the foot, lazcano looks up at the sky and says 'O MUMMY IM COMING HOME!!' proceeds to shoot himself in the face 20times, then the marines take his body to an auction house were CDS,CDG and BLO operatives are bidding against the CIA,NSA,DEA and FBI but then all of a sudden Captain America and the AVENGERS fly in and steal the body which they take to a mountaintop hideout of CDG...THey then place a tracking device in lazcano's a$$ and send the body to lazca's family in the hope that MIguel trevino will turn up to pay his respects to a man that he more than likely SET UP. But that wont work cause TREVINO will use his X-ray vision and spot the tracker, he will then incinerate the body with his photon lense spectacles he got from his butler alfred cause Trevino is ACTUALLY BATMAN!!!

there's been much discussion as to why Lazca's vehicle was not armored.

it could have something to do with laying low to fool the government forces at checkpoints.

Or just feeling confident nothing would happen to him in a town where Zetas rule in collusion with authorities.

He was obviously betrayed and it was not the first time. The government almost got him at that party in Monclovia. While the forces chased after vehicles, it is said that this guy left the party walking.

Yes he kept a low pro and was very cold blooded. Reminds me of Escobar in the cold blooded sense. In an interview one of Escobar's bodyguards said that while the chase for Pablo was at full scale, Pablo would walk through Medellin past cops like it was nothing.

This is not Lazca, remember Mexico is the most corrupt nation in the world. They want you to believe this is him. They want Z-40 to be the new head and only head of Los Zetas. So they can blame the more horrific atrocities that are to come on this group. Remember Mexico is in bed with the United States and will fall in line with whatever they say. Out of chaos comes order! Also, please remember the media never lies to its people, right?

People dont forget,ye he was a handsome dude.But right now he aint looking at his best,you know,blowin up an all that shit. Fuck"earlaps"believe your own eyes it is Heriberto Lazcano,he really is dead.These comments just go to show,that people will always believe in conspiracies.We got the guy dead on a mortuary slab,fingerprints,body stolen,and we still got many people just cant,or wont believe it?

They never leave a fallen comrade behind and why would he have all his security at a bb game with him? It would just make everyone suspicious, the z everyone is saying that's not him in the photos and that they don't match is everyone here that incompetent obviously the pictures we have of him alive are from 10-15 years ago no one looks the same, how many cartels have we've seen captured and they look nothing like there wanted pictures, people age they don't stay the same people, think!

Here come all the conspiracies! Why couldn't he have just been killed, and then buried, or fed to the pigs or whatever. Seems too convenient that Z40 and Lazca declare and split and then a war - and Z3 winds up dead. Sounds like a set up to me. But the pictures don't lie...Lazcano is the dude in the dead photos. Unless they painted him up to look dead and then whisked him away under CIA or government protection. We'll never know... But the devil incarnate is now in charge - Trevino. He needs a bullet (or 100) in him too.

Lazcano is nott dead jajajaja you will see the mexican gov and calderon are a bunch of dumb ass idiots thinking that people would belive this I'm mexican straight out the water And i aprove this message...

I don't believe this one bit, think about it when Arturo went out he had more then 2 guys at his side fighting the marines in his condo, and they actually showed his body shot up? Chayo had no picture? El Coronel had a similar picture to this one looked faked? He had a corrido that even said he wasn't dead? Amado is in witness protection? El Coss got caught with his ppl, and maybe it's true about the mantas that they are informants for DEA cause they get caught alive? El Lazca every year has someone fake his death and this year he dies and suddenly they still the body yea bs! Why haven't Z retaliated yet!

Lazcano is most defenitly not dead! especially the way they claim they killed him! when Arturo Beltran Leyva was killed they guarded his body all the way till it was buryed. But the leader of Los Zetas was left behind like nothing?? yea right!!! smells like american style phycology operations. Never the less Lazca will defenitly take this to his advantige! he is dead as far as the goverment and masses are aware of. the U.S said " oooow we tossed Osama Binladens body in the ocean" sounds like a criminal geting rid of evidence dosnt it? now we get the most dangerous of the Zetas but we lost him jajajajajajaja this is pothetic to say the least!

Theres a picture on mundonarco, with comandante ardilla and Lazcano at a party.. did ardilla guy probably snitched out his location.. according to that blog , supplostly they showed ardilla the death pictures of lazcano and he said that was him for sure.. but who knows all this narco war stuff its like a big neverending soap opera..

Reya said... "Praying for the souls of already dead people is like praying today that it will rain yesterday"That shit is deep,im still tryin to figure it out?And to the person askin the question,i would rather pray(if i did pray)for all the people that this little fat Lazca hurt.Well,look at you now,now you dead,and a million people lookin and laughin at your fat ass.People dont waste to much thought on this bitch,he deserved worse.

This is getting ridiculous now.Now we argue about whether it really is him?Get a grip,Lazcano is dead.11:39 AM "I'm mexican straight out the waterAnd i aprove this message"Everyone fascinated by Lazcano cause he was an enigma and badass.But he was just a dude who got caught in the open.He knew for real,he would go out this way,why do people think he built the church,mausoleum.He had balls no doubt,but now he also dead,and he knew it was gonna happen,we all know it gonna happen.Just a bit sooner for him thats all.Lazca dead.The mystery man is dead,the enigma,dead.Thats why people cant believe it,believe it.Muerto.

THE BODY WAS MOST LIKELY HIM,BUT MOST LIKELY HE WAS NOT KILLED!!!!!!! WHERE ARE THE PICTURES WITH THE BULLET HOLES? THEN THE BODY GETS STOLEN!!!!! COME ON NOW, THIS DUDE PAID OFF THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND GOT OUT OF THE GAME. PROBABLY GOT SHOT WITH A TRANQULISER GUN TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE HE WAS REALLY DEAD.

THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT IS BEHIND ALL OF THIS. THEY ARE PROBABLY TOP 3 IN THE WORLD FOR CORRUPTION. IF YOU WANT TO FIX MEXICO, PUT IN THE DEATH PENALTY AND HAVE ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT TAKE POLYGRAPH TEST....

Bottomline here is people are going to believe, what they want...some will say he's dead and others will say he's alive and it's a coverup! I can see both sides. For one how reliable is the Mexican gov't? I think it's highly unusual to employ a local funeral home to analyze the body...knowing Zetas are famous for collecting their own dead! But on the other hand, there are not any recent pictures of Z3! The more common ones are quite a few years old! Again, just because the Mexican gov't says they have matching fingerprints doesn't make it so. Also, you would think that there would be a ton more pictures...why just head shots? Also, I find it funny how they wanted to autopsy the body to determine the cause of death? You would think it would be obvious according to the Marina involved...death by gunshots! However, I do think it's funny how the ID carried on the corpse believed to be Lazcano carried the name: " Rodriguez-Rodriguez" (Lazcano-Lazcano)! I dunno, personally I think it's him but I would not be all shocked if it wasn't! There is another photo, which is said to be Lazcano...the one where he is sitting at a restaurant with a female...now that photo looks nothing like him! In general, I don't know why the Zetas would steal his body, if eventually the body would be turned over to his family? Plus, it is speculated that he would be placed in that shrine he built. If that was the case, then the gov't could simply re-acquire the corpse from there and run whatever tests they wanted to. The whole thing seems very strange.

@ 2:01 PM .Man are you trippin or what?"PROBABLY GOT SHOT WITH A TRANQULISER GUN"You avin a laugh?You gotta be,or,you Lazcas son?Comandante Ardilla,confirmed its him when he was shown the picture we all seen.Ardilla knew him better than most,and certainly better than anyone here.Lazca stood for him at his wedding,fact.El Lazca is deyed buwoy.Gone the way of the wooly mammoth.

Here's what seems to have happened: El Lazca wanted to test the loyalty of Z40 after all indications that Z40 snitches and sent a would-be-double of himself as bait to Coahuila. Z40 took the bait and snitched the would-be-double of El Lazca having thought it was El Lazca. The would-be-double of El Lazca was killed and El Lazca now has a proof that Z40 tried to snitch him. El Lazca will go after Z40 after this as his topmost priority.