Giants4TheWin wrote:Probably a good move tactically on her part, but I hate to see anyone cave to the gun almonds special interest.

Caving...that's what Hudak is good at and likely ordered to resign by an east coast politician handler.

Us Colorado almonds are special. And we've taken special interest in action to take back our state. And we won't forget the actions of politicians in 2014 nor 2016.

There's plenty of mixed nuts in the world--we don't need to cater to the extreme views of the gun almonds. Like any flavor of the month, the taste of the gun almonds will wane and there will be a backlash when people realize a more balanced diet is always healthier.

GenePH wrote:This means she was told by the polls of certain defeat. This also is a great grassroots achievement that the main media was ignoring as usual.

This was as grass root as the field at Mile High. Yeah, there's real grass there....but it would be there if someone didn't plant it.

You can't do something for everyone. Sometimes, you have to fire the customer. Don't feed the beast, not all revenue is good revenue. You can't dig yourself out of a pit, and if you can't dig yourself out of a pit, STOP DIGGING!

Silverspruce wrote:Colorado law needs to be changed so that in the event enough valid signatures are turned in to force a recall, AN ELECTION WILL BE HELD to determine the successor. Let the voters decide. No more of of the same party appointing another political hack to maintain the status quo.

Funny, if it was a Republican governor appointing a Republican legislator to fill a vacancy caused by resignation, I have a feeling you'd be all for it.

Recall of 2 and this resignation sends message across country that Colorado does not want New York money determining what laws we will live under. In 2014 and the future, I suspect candidates will represent their constituents, but realize that once elected, their vote and policies effect whole body of state or federal. And they should be bit more hesitant about espousing their own opinions or beliefs, but truly represent constituents. And in this case her area of state elected her, but she represents 1 vote for all state issues which effects all of us. We don't like legislators who drive companies and business out of the state, or make our life more difficult. And the Colorado legislators I knew and met in prior years realized this, by being accessible to anyone in state, regardless of party or address. When can we get back to that?

Earthside wrote:Coming back to read some of the comments after I posted my remarks a bit ago ...

I am left with this impression: the gun radicals, Tea Party and Obama-haters are so delusional that Democrats can feel pretty confident about the outcome of the 2014 elections.

The rhetoric of anger, ridicule, and mockery is not going to be persuasive to the majority of centrist and moderate Colorado voters.

The recalls, in fact, are tangible demonstrations of the radical measures this far-right faction is willing to employ to achieve their extreme objectives. Most voters in this state are simply not going to find this kind of politics beneficial to their futures.

The Hudak resignation really does show just how silly and inconsequential are the radical tactics of this rather small faction of ultra-conservative activists. When the complete view of these recall stunts are analyzed, the conclusion will be that they ultimately resulted in no policy changes; they exposed the militancy of the gun special interests; and they energized and further motivated Democrats and progressives.

So, what little satisfaction the gun radicals may try and put on the Hudak resignation, it will in the fullness of time be understood as a pyrrhic accomplishment.

Wait until a Republican from a split district gets recalled - then you'll see them trash this system roundly.

And don't fool yourself - that's EXACTLY what will happen, at some point.

Silverspruce wrote:Colorado law needs to be changed so that in the event enough valid signatures are turned in to force a recall, AN ELECTION WILL BE HELD to determine the successor. Let the voters decide. No more of of the same party appointing another political hack to maintain the status quo. The Democrats could help themselves in the 2014 session by getting rid of some of the more onerous provisions of their gun laws like forcing private sellers to go through a gun dealer at a cost of about $50 to get a background check. There is no legal or technical reason private gun sellers should not have access to Colorado's InstaCheck gun background check system, other than the REAL reason for the Dems new gun laws is registration and eventual confiscation of all privately held guns in Colorado. Hudak's recall proves that kind of Marxist thinking, as evidenced most dramatically by Obamacare, is going to cost the Democrats the 2014 elections locally and nationally, and banish their party to the political wilderness for years to come.

I often wonder what planet are you conservatives living on.

Whichever one it is, it's a helluva lot closer to earth than the one you're living on. You're much further "out there" that most of the people that post on these boards.

Udall vs Gardner isn't really about Udall or Gardner.

It's about HARRY REID, and whether he gets to keep his job as Senate Majority Leader. Do you like the job he's done making Congress function for the last 8 years? Yes? No?

Saxon wrote:Good Riddance! Although, it would have been far more rewarding to see her thrashed in a recall and see the Senate moved back into GOP hands. Who knows what kind of insanity the Dems have in store for next Session?

You're next, Hickenlooper! NONE of these anti-Freedom laws would have been an issue had you turned down being Bloomberg's stooge and stood up for Coloradans when you had the chance.

I hope a GOP candidate gets elected...hopefully they can crash the state economy like the last one. Or maybe they can pay back their donors by purchasing ineffective computer systems for the state. How about they allow state employees to buy a bunch of years toward retirement. Oooooo, can they be from Texas again too?

I love how short conservative memories are. Yet they are so quick the dawn the uniform and shake the Pom-Poms, and recite the chants.

Nah, let's be honest, the only people they got are Joe Coors, and Joe Buck.

You can't do something for everyone. Sometimes, you have to fire the customer. Don't feed the beast, not all revenue is good revenue. You can't dig yourself out of a pit, and if you can't dig yourself out of a pit, STOP DIGGING!

There is literally nothing preventing Hudak from withdrawing her resignation by saying that she has been humbled by the outpouring of encouragement from her supporters and has decided not to resign. The fact that the DP has miraculously started covering the recall somewhere other than obscure blogs buried deep in the paper, is suspicious in itself. The plan could very well be to get the electorate to relax and stop signing the petitions, which are apparently mere percentage points away from completion.

If you look at the reverse 911 call tactics Hudak used to scare people away from signing, it is not a big stretch that she may be feigning resignation using her lap dog, the DP, to assist with the ruse.

John-Galt wrote:I've heard that she also supports Obamacare. That alone is sufficient enough to recall her in my book.

Ladies and gentlemen the conservative mindset at work.

Not only do they want to control what you do with your body, but now they want the thought police to bash your skull in for thinking differently from them.

The party of freedom? The party of control.

You can't do something for everyone. Sometimes, you have to fire the customer. Don't feed the beast, not all revenue is good revenue. You can't dig yourself out of a pit, and if you can't dig yourself out of a pit, STOP DIGGING!

Earthside wrote:Coming back to read some of the comments after I posted my remarks a bit ago ...

I am left with this impression: the gun radicals, Tea Party and Obama-haters are so delusional that Democrats can feel pretty confident about the outcome of the 2014 elections.

The rhetoric of anger, ridicule, and mockery is not going to be persuasive to the majority of centrist and moderate Colorado voters.

The recalls, in fact, are tangible demonstrations of the radical measures this far-right faction is willing to employ to achieve their extreme objectives. Most voters in this state are simply not going to find this kind of politics beneficial to their futures.

The Hudak resignation really does show just how silly and inconsequential are the radical tactics of this rather small faction of ultra-conservative activists. When the complete view of these recall stunts are analyzed, the conclusion will be that they ultimately resulted in no policy changes; they exposed the militancy of the gun special interests; and they energized and further motivated Democrats and progressives.

So, what little satisfaction the gun radicals may try and put on the Hudak resignation, it will in the fullness of time be understood as a pyrrhic accomplishment.

Wait until a Republican from a split district gets recalled - then you'll see them trash this system roundly.

And don't fool yourself - that's EXACTLY what will happen, at some point.

Probably so, just like Dems will be sorry that they just breached the filibuster barrier in the US Senate, which will only lead to more partisanship on nominees and (inevitably) legislation too.

When one-party control overreaches (as Dems have been doing for about 8 years now), it breeds resentment and retaliation.

Udall vs Gardner isn't really about Udall or Gardner.

It's about HARRY REID, and whether he gets to keep his job as Senate Majority Leader. Do you like the job he's done making Congress function for the last 8 years? Yes? No?

"Do you support Bloomberg and these anti-Freedom laws or will you support the People of Colorado?"

Wrong answer and it's "adios" next election.

"Do you support Wayne Lapierre and all of those 2nd Amendment Freaks who think that by restricting access to Assault Weapons you somehow think your freedom is being taken away?"

One issue does not make a recall. Thought you would have learned that from Colorado Springs and Pueblo earlier this year.

Oh, there were OTHER issues besides guns?

Not that I recall.

This is single issue politics at its silliest. But don't worry...Republicans can get recalled too, and I'm going to predict that's exactly what happens.

I constantly hear Republicans complaining about all the big money and small minds in elective politics, but the irony is that this recall mania you started just means that more money will be needed, and you'd have to be a moron to take the job in the first place.

Well done, guys.

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"Do you support Bloomberg and these anti-Freedom laws or will you support the People of Colorado?"

Wrong answer and it's "adios" next election.

"Do you support Wayne Lapierre and all of those 2nd Amendment Freaks who think that by restricting access to Assault Weapons you somehow think your freedom is being taken away?"

The politicians change the definition of 'assault rifle' to disallow common firearms. This is one of the major issues. The general public is too ignorant of these facts to make an educated decision as to how the politicians are actually changing the landscape of their nation's laws. The main stream media is complicit in this misdirection of renaming common firearms to something feigned to be evil.

It is similar to Bloomberg changing the definition of a 32 ounce soft drink to 'assault coke'. All of a sudden by unilaterally changing the name the object suddenly is deemed evil.

Pay attention people. It could be these same politicians change the name of something you feel is important and suddenly you are faced with having to pay high taxes and have your name placed on a registration list. The list to be used when the politicians decide it is time to make you stop using or confiscate that item which you feel is important.

(Though that item likely is not protected in a historic document with the words 'shall not be infringed' in the sentence.)

Kuffar wrote:The line of "were just trying to keep you all safe" failed. The people clearly saw that this current raft of gun confiscation and registration laws was an attempt to disarm the peasants and keep them in their place. The Bloomberg and the east coast elitists along with Feinstein and Hickenlooper ran into the reality that people of Colorado stand up for the Second Amendment. We are not slaves neither are we sheep.

These tyrants who are busy collapsing the economy want the serfs to be disarmed so they can be killed and robbed at will from the comfort of their gated homes and behind armed guards. This is a case of tyrants and would be despots against the people and their constitutional rights. Colorado is not a Bloomberg colony.