Reddit post apparently related to Clintons email coverup

a reply to: MotherMayEye
Exactly right! And again, the important part is that his reddit posts implies he was instructed to do this. That is what is new, it shows that
someone above him INTENDED to break the law.

This is why if he didn't give this info to the FBI, his immunity should be revoked for withholding info. If he did give this info and the FBI still
claims there was no intent and Combetta acted on his own, then they are corrupt and should be held accountable.

If this doesn't comport with his FBI interview...they can both retract his immunity and arrest him for lying to the FBI etc.

If it does comport with what the FBI already knows...then this will be the Congressional GOP demanding he testify again...and he can continue to take
the 5th or the FBI can intercede and say they are already aware of the circumstances etc.

Either way it serves as fodder for the election cycle.

Nice try, but I think that defense won't work.

His reddit post was the day after congress requested these materials. So I do believe that even changing the email to a place holder would be
considered tampering with documents.

Sure...Changing a personal email to a place holder like (Hillary Clinton)...might very well be attempted evidence tampering...but he received full
blanket immunity from the FBI before being interviewed by them...and he might have already fully disclosed this..

Kepe in mind from his posts, he says "they" want him to do this, meaning his employers, Hillary and her staff.

"They" is a big word...from a legal perspective...not a smoking gun IMO. Is he a one man shop? Or does he work for an IT firm? It could have been his
bosses at the IT firm? A lawyer?...and it could have been HRCs staff or HRC herself..but the word "they" doesn't hang anyone.

The other point that is even more damning for your theory is that if stonetear was indeed trying to just put a placeholder

NOT my theory...he says precisely that in the reddit exchange.

If the bleach-bit stuff had veracity and teeth it would be more than a headline and the DOJ has looked into it already.

So your theory would be he innocently wanted to change hillary@whatever.com to just say Hillary, so he goes to reddit for help.

AGAIN...that is what he actually says in that exchange...Not "my" and not "theorey"

User “stonetear” responded: “The issue is that these emails involve the private email address of someone you'd recognize, and we're trying to
replace it with a placeholder address as to not expose it.”

If you want to have an objective conversation...stop acting like I am making this stuff up.

He claims on there that "they" want him to do this. He can not find the help he needs on reddit. He then somehow decides, "well if I can't find a
placeholder as my employers have asked, I will just delete all of the emails in such a way that they can never be found". He does this on his own,
knowing that it is a crime, without contacting the people that asked him to put a placeholder name in.

Possibly...but the bottom line is that his "out" is there in the thread.

He could have (or claim the same) (A) He was unaware that Hillary's email had already been exposed by Gawker..or (B) That he was looking to replace
someone elses private email addy with a place holder "Chelsea Clinton"...Bill...Colin Powel..And while it might be attempted evidence tampering, he
was apparently unsuccessful and received immunity from the DOJ prior to his interviews with them.

I don't see a route where this has legitimate legal teeth..campaign rhetorical teeth? Sure...but in the context of his post claiming he was looking to
protect an email address with a place-holder...plus his existing immunity with the DOJ?

It's headlines...not something that the DOJ will chase...they might already be aware of this.

Nope.

A person commits the crime of tampering with evidence when he or she knowingly:

-alters, conceals, falsifies, or destroys any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to interfere with an investigation, possible
investigation, or other proceeding by the federal government.
(18 U.S.C. § 1519.)

This crime includes making false entries in records or doctoring documents, such as by “cooking the books” of a business to hide illegal activity
or avoid taxes or other required payments.

Tampering with evidence also includes destroying or altering documents or things “in contemplation of” an investigation or other proceeding that
may occur in the future.

Combetta was in violation of federal law tampering with the emails. He doesn't get to decide that an email address should be obfuscated by a
placeholder to protect someone's privacy -- he's an IT guy. That's not his place and it's illegal.

I never said it was a not potential crime? Yes it could constitute either tampering or attempted tampering...

He received IMMUNITY from the FBI regarding what he did and did not do with her email and email server..and was interviewed multiple times by
them.

"I never said it was a not potential crime? Yes it could constitute either tampering or attempted tampering... "

Actually, it constitutes a conspiracy to tamper with evidence and obstruct justice.

It was illegal. Stonetear states that 'they' wanted to strip out a VIP's email address. His act in even asking Reddit about it constitutes 'an action
taken to further that conspiracy.'

It does constitute a criminal conspiracy to tamper with evidence and obstruct justice...not 'could,' not 'potential.'

And since he was told in the thread that it is illegal with regard to evidence discovery, then he cannot claim to have not known the action was
illegal.

ETA: And BTW, if Combetta told the FBI, what about 'they' who wanted Combetta to strip out the email address? Who are 'they?' And why haven't 'they'
been questioned in a conspiracy to tamper with evidence and obstruct justice criminal investigation?

sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.

If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...

It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.

In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.

Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...

I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to
protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he
established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe
umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.

I've posted this a few times now - this is as likely a smoking gun as we'll find. Clearly, Stonetear started by wanting to change HRC's name - that
didn't work so they broke out bleachbit.

According to Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, the following email exchange occurred between Combetta and another undisclosed Platte River Network
staff member back on 8/19/15:

“Wondering how we can sneak an email in now, after the fact, asking them [the Clinton camp] when they told us to cut the backups and have them
confirm it for our records. Starting to think this whole thing is really covering up some shady #. I just think if we have it in writing that they
told us to cut the backups then we can go public with our statement saying we’ve had the backup since day one when we were told to trim to 30 days
would make us look a whole lot better.”

I need a link and a solid one for that claim above...that seems sensational...

I don't even think Chaffetz would claim that without releasing the actual email..

sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.

If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...

It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.

In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.

Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...

I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to
protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he
established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe
umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.

I've posted this a few times now - this is as likely a smoking gun as we'll find. Clearly, Stonetear started by wanting to change HRC's name - that
didn't work so they broke out bleachbit.

According to Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, the following email exchange occurred between Combetta and another undisclosed Platte River Network
staff member back on 8/19/15:

“Wondering how we can sneak an email in now, after the fact, asking them [the Clinton camp] when they told us to cut the backups and have them
confirm it for our records. Starting to think this whole thing is really covering up some shady #. I just think if we have it in writing that they
told us to cut the backups then we can go public with our statement saying we’ve had the backup since day one when we were told to trim to 30 days
would make us look a whole lot better.”

I need a link and a solid one for that claim above...that seems sensational...

I don't even think Chaffetz would claim that without releasing the actual email..

He received IMMUNITY from the FBI regarding what he did and did not do with her email and email server..and was interviewed multiple times by them.

His immunity was limited and it was granted before he tampered with the emails. That is the meaning of his 'Oh #' moment. He forgot to dump those
emails.
He very well may have violated that agreement with the tampering.

sure, but lack of clarity on his part doesnt translate well with voters.

If the email "thing" had been forgotten then yes. Pretend and insist until it goes away like usual...

It is now a throbbing scandal that people dont understand, which is actually worse for clinton.

In the end there is a "gut feeling" directing the masses, and its growing into pulsing pains of caution with her.

Oh...no doubt it has campaign utility and folks are not interested in the fine details...

I was only speaking to the actual context and facts and they don't support the inference when you read the follow-up reddit post. He was looking to
protect exposing her email address, not her identity. Thus his explaining that he wanted to replace it with a "Placeholder"...or at the very least he
established that motive on the Reddit exchange at the time. That combined with him giving extensive interviews already to the DOJ under the safe
umbrella of immunity...No revelation here and no smoking gun IMO. Headlines? Some utility for Trump Campaign...of course.

I've posted this a few times now - this is as likely a smoking gun as we'll find. Clearly, Stonetear started by wanting to change HRC's name - that
didn't work so they broke out bleachbit.

According to Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, the following email exchange occurred between Combetta and another undisclosed Platte River Network
staff member back on 8/19/15:

“Wondering how we can sneak an email in now, after the fact, asking them [the Clinton camp] when they told us to cut the backups and have them
confirm it for our records. Starting to think this whole thing is really covering up some shady #. I just think if we have it in writing that they
told us to cut the backups then we can go public with our statement saying we’ve had the backup since day one when we were told to trim to 30 days
would make us look a whole lot better.”

I need a link and a solid one for that claim above...that seems sensational...

I don't even think Chaffetz would claim that without releasing the actual email..

Here is the link, you will need to cut and paste it... but add these letters to the very end: s h i t www.zerohedge.com...#-guy-wiped-hillarys-server-bleachbit-pleads-fifth-over-her-shady-
That word at the end is why it doesn't link from ATS.

Hey...Can you stop pretending I haven't said it is illegal or potentially illegal?

And answer the part where I have repeatedly pointed out he has received full immunity from the FBI regarding the matter? And been interviewed
exhaustively? He is not on the hook here.

I didn't pretend you didn't say that. I quoted you and disputed the word 'potential.'

Even if he is not on the hook -- and I think he might be - 'they' that he referred to, are on the hook for conspiracy to tamper with evidence and
obstruct justice.

ETA: To clarify, I am probably reading as very defensive of my POV. And that's because I think this is such solid evidence of a conspiracy, the
thought of people trying to sweep this under the rug really angers me. And I am very worried it will be. I don't even have confidence in Congress or
the FBI, at this point. The last thing I could stomach is hearing 'neener neener -- they can't touch him.' (not that I think you were intending to be
all 'neener neener.')

originally posted by: kosmicjack
This morning MSM is covering some tax issue with Trump but not this issue with Clinton's emails.

They are covering the fact that his foundation is a complete fraud that has operated illegally to his benefit from settling law-suits with the funds
to buying paintings and sports memorabilia for himself to paying off the FL AG..."tax issues"??

It would be awesome if you applied the same scrutinizing intellect to everyone equally..

originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
so basically he will be the fall guy and hillary will be let off as she claims she dot know how a plug works never midnd a computer- not a real claim
obviosuly. a reply to: Agit8dChop

Rumours are circulating that he is going to sing like a canary... we'll see.

Here's the portion of the hearing where Rep Jordan goes over the email in question, he doesn't mention the names (because they are redacted), hints
that one of the two (Thorton, Combetta sent or rec'd it)...

I could have sworn that I have seen that email without redaction, but having seen so much stuff the past few days, I could be mistaken... just to
clear the record

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