My advice to you would be quit online poker, come to my Casino and bring your credit card. They have machines there. Then I would sit on my right and limp in every hand to your up or down a million. Whichever comes first.

From my perspective, it looks that you are trying too hard. I think that you are often over- playing your cards just to play LAGish, and to have a cool red line, but you are not yet ready to control this game style so you often end up tilting, am I on the right track?

I suggest you to stop concentrating on the red line, and focus on the green line which matters the most. Also, you will still beat micros greatly even with your red line constantly going down, so for now don't worry about your nsd winings, and try to play solid tilt- free poker. This will bring you success at micros, and afterwards, with more experience, you will be able to adjust your game to new limits, and start to experiment with new situations to bluff and take pots down without SD.

Also, try to focus on your ranges from different positions, tighten up a little from EP, and try to play some more hands which play good postflop from CO and BU. Soon enough, you will discover the beauty of position with these playable hands, I'm sure.

Hope that I helped,
and if I completely missed your profile, sorry, at least I tried

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by TheNutsCracked: 08.03.2014 16:10.

Well i i started a session today taking all the new advce in mind and things went fine, i decided to go into a micro 180 man sng and got 3rd which was nice.

Then i went on to the cash tables and i felt i was playing really well until a guy hit a backdoor flush on me on the river. You'll see by the graph what ensues so angry with myself. I have the weakest head game ever! I'm glad i stopped the session when i did even tho the damage was already done.

I think i get angry and spew off because it annoys me that i done so much work to build my stack up then in 1 hand an hour of work is literally done for nothing. I have faith in myself.

Originally posted by TheNutsCracked
Well i i started a session today taking all the new advce in mind and things went fine, i decided to go into a micro 180 man sng and got 3rd which was nice.

Then i went on to the cash tables and i felt i was playing really well until a guy hit a backdoor flush on me on the river. You'll see by the graph what ensues so angry with myself. I have the weakest head game ever! I'm glad i stopped the session when i did even tho the damage was already done.

I think i get angry and spew off because it annoys me that i done so much work to build my stack up then in 1 hand an hour of work is literally done for nothing. I have faith in myself.

I'm not a cash player although I can see some of the leaks others have pointed out.

Mentally are you at the point yet where you're truly motivated to work on your game systematically and constructively? This is not a criticism but an actual question.

If you are, you need to find the game that you enjoy the most and commit to it. The standard of poker even micro limits is high enough that you can't just walk in and expect to make money from it. You need to pick your game, cash or SNG, 6 max or full ring, zoom or not zoom. Pick one and specialize in it and don't play other games.

In terms of tilt you are at least past the first hurdle in that you acknowledge it. Next you need to identify the causes and start working on it. I may be wrong but judging by what you said about the session going bad; you need to reduce the amount of tunnel vision.

A guy hitting a backdoor flush on the river doesn't mean you played bad. You must determine the success of a session by the quality of decisions, not the uncontrollable results of those decisions. Look back through your session the next day hiding the other persons hands and be brutal with yourself.
Second working hard for an hour doesn't entitle you to any sort of results. Results in poker come in months not hours. I played 9 tables of $5 SNGs for about 4 hours yesterday and came out with a $1.10 profit, I played pretty well although I made some mistakes, results are irrelevant until you have a big enough sample.

Read the mental game of poker as Maythany suggested and start implementing some of the great strategy articles available on this site.

Originally posted by TheNutsCracked
Well i i started a session today taking all the new advce in mind and things went fine, i decided to go into a micro 180 man sng and got 3rd which was nice.

Then i went on to the cash tables and i felt i was playing really well until a guy hit a backdoor flush on me on the river. You'll see by the graph what ensues so angry with myself. I have the weakest head game ever! I'm glad i stopped the session when i did even tho the damage was already done.

I think i get angry and spew off because it annoys me that i done so much work to build my stack up then in 1 hand an hour of work is literally done for nothing. I have faith in myself.

I'm not a cash player although I can see some of the leaks others have pointed out.

Mentally are you at the point yet where you're truly motivated to work on your game systematically and constructively? This is not a criticism but an actual question.

If you are, you need to find the game that you enjoy the most and commit to it. The standard of poker even micro limits is high enough that you can't just walk in and expect to make money from it. You need to pick your game, cash or SNG, 6 max or full ring, zoom or not zoom. Pick one and specialize in it and don't play other games.

In terms of tilt you are at least past the first hurdle in that you acknowledge it. Next you need to identify the causes and start working on it. I may be wrong but judging by what you said about the session going bad; you need to reduce the amount of tunnel vision.

A guy hitting a backdoor flush on the river doesn't mean you played bad. You must determine the success of a session by the quality of decisions, not the uncontrollable results of those decisions. Look back through your session the next day hiding the other persons hands and be brutal with yourself.
Second working hard for an hour doesn't entitle you to any sort of results. Results in poker come in months not hours. I played 9 tables of $5 SNGs for about 4 hours yesterday and came out with a $1.10 profit, I played pretty well although I made some mistakes, results are irrelevant until you have a big enough sample.

Read the mental game of poker as Maythany suggested and start implementing some of the great strategy articles available on this site.

Good luck

big +1 to this post, especially picking the game you feel you are best at. I started out playing Single table SNG's and it tilted the hell out of me that I could play so many games and still not really make much money. I switched to NL BSS FR and did well by playing tight, value betting lots and not bluffing too much. Oh and bet/folding is pretty useful in a lot of spots IMO (mainly because the vast majority of players at the micros are Loose and passive, therefore if you make a bet and they raise you then chances are you're behind even with your sexy AA.

BTW do you find you win a lot of smalls pots ( particularly preflop ) and tend to lose big pots postflop? I would be interested in watching you play a session.

My reason for asking this stems from the stats ( albeit a relatively small sample) that you posted. I think you played something like 20/10.

Someone also posted that this may indicate that you are not "positionally aware" which is something that I would assume to be correct.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the process probably goes something like this:
1) start the session feeling confident and ready to crush
2) Playing very tight and win a a number of small pots uncontested....feeling good
3) you have something like AK+, QQ+ open and get called in 1 or more spots. Flop comes giving you something like an TP or an over pair (but a hand less than 2pr+ that you want to value bet). You bet and get check raised / raised

You've been playing pretty tight and don't want to let go. After all they could be bluffing or overplaying a weaker hand.... so you either 3b/get it in or x/c and villain shows up with a set or turns/rivers something in the case of the x/c or b/c line.

4) this causes you to play even tighter or not bluff at all or fold too much - TILT ( deviating from your a- game or an optimal strategy, i.e not just rage tilt that evokes a feeling of anger)

5) Spew as a result of tilt. I would imagine it would be rage tilt / over aggression in your case due to the positive red line. Maybe you're emptying the clip everytime so opponents " don't suck out on you when you have a big hand " (remember we want them to call with worse - the definition of value betting - we don't want them to fold all their worse hands otherwise what's the point)

Also you can only control your decision and actions during the hand. You cant control your opp's decisions or the cards that come....something to think about.

If you think you're losing big pots postflop too often then maybe you need to look at your postflop game. Look at the types of hands and spots that you are stacking off in. Post some hands in the HH evalution forum. Is there an obvious leak. Do you stack off too light? Do you turn marginal hands, average made hands into bluffs? Do you adjust to player types properly?

This is all just posftflop. It could stem from preflop decisions. Do you use a starting hand chart? If not, then maybe it is something to try. Are you playing too many tables? If you think yes, then reduce the number of tables until you see a marked improvment in the quality of decisions. Then you can go with quantity.

By the way I finding your optimum game type is something to work on IMO. Personally I have just switched to normal ring games as opposed to zoom and I have a better winrate in normal games for the time being. Also something to think about.

Ill add you in the community section if you fancy doing a sweat session.

I noticed this comment on one of the replies to "can't even win at microstakes."

Kind of curious as to how big is a big enough sample. I'm like this gut and have over 7000 hands to my credit but I'm still losing. (cash games, that is.) Is this variance or is there enough data to make some evals of my play. For example, I tend to carry Top Pair good kicker too far. the only time I can assure I have a reasonable chance at success is when i have best kicker with my top pair. I do win some of these SD's but lose about 60% of them to a better kicker. I usually use 10 or better as my default kicker, but even against fish i lose more than I win.

Anyway, just rambling. Was curious about any thoughts you all may have.