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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

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Re:
whats the beef with IKO shingles?

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Originally Posted by kubie

they seem really thin, but with a 6" exposure, they go on fast

Ikos are one of the thickest shingles(30 yr) and seal really quick.They have come a long way in the last 5 yrs or so.The problem I find with them mostly is the inconsistency in dimensions.Many have crooked saw teeth,different widths,uneven butt joints.Also excessive initial granule loss.I think they will(finally)have the same life span as their competitors.They are not in the least my favorite,although I have installed 1000's of sqs of them.Malarkeys are my shingle of choice

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

I reroofed one of these a couple months ago, 19yr old 30yr laminated shingle that had almost no granules left, also hadn't sealed down and brittle as. Put on Landmark 30's.
Also repaired one yesterday that had blown off, had to mastic down most of the exposed side of the roof, both these werefixed down with EG staples which were rusting away in our seaside area. Probably will be a reroof in a couple of years too.

In my opinion they are crap, the company that was importing them has gone out of business. CertainTeed, GAF-Elk and Pabco are the major shingle brands here in New Zealand now. I only use the first two.

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

im getting my roof replaced and the contractor is offering either IKO or CERTAINTEED, im reading bad things about IKOS, but wasnt there a recall on CERTAINTEED not long ago? does anyone have a bad experience with them ??

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

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Originally Posted by stan the man

im getting my roof replaced and the contractor is offering either IKO or CERTAINTEED, im reading bad things about IKOS, but wasnt there a recall on CERTAINTEED not long ago? does anyone have a bad experience with them ??

Stan I have been using both and have had no issues with either shingle.

I would be more concerned about the installer,A poor roofer can make the best shingles on the market look like crap and not perform well.

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

CertainTeed settled a class acution law suit for their organic shingles. It was not a recall. CertainTeed has not manufactured organic shingles since 2005 so anyone considering a CertainTeed roof today is considering a good roof.

Read all the warranty documents before you purchase. I say this for two reasons. "30 year warranty" is a borad statement. You will find from reading the documtns what is and is not covered in that warranty. The CertainTeed class action suit was not because they were not honoring their warranty... It was because people didn't like it after the fact. Well I say Tough Chit! You should have read it first, because it is no different than most other shingle manufacturers. That kind of thing pisses me off.

I do not want to be quoted on this, and maybe I am wrong, if so someone please correct me. I believe that IKO's shingle warranty coveres all the same things every other manufacturer's covers; like blisters, granual loss, curling etc... HOWEVER the big difference is that I beleive that IKO won't cover any of that UNLESS you have a leak. Now I could be wrong, that's not legal advice, read the document for yourself.... I am just putting all this disclaimer in here so IKO doesn't sue me.

I do agree with Tump, the roofer is more important than the shingle. You can buy the worlds greatest shingle but it's absolutely garbage if not installed properly. Make sure you hire a professional roofing contractor with licensing, certifications, insurance, and trade association memberships... not just some guy working off a cell phone and out of his garage. Quality costs money.

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

thanks for the feed back grumpy, just wondering as far as color goes im considering the landmark miore black, but my house sits in direct sunlite here in ny, the old color is a light grey, will switching to a black shingle bring down more heat? will it lessen the life of the shingle? is it better to warm the house during the winter months? anyones feed back would be a big help thanks

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whats the beef with IKO shingles?

This is a copy of the PM I sent you but I am reposting for the benefit of any lurkers...

think it was GAF that did a study in conjunction with UIC back in the early 1990's. Their study was to measure the difference between black and white shingles on identicle test houses. What they found makes perfect sense to me, but confuses some people.

The surface temprature difference between a white and black shingle is approximately 20 degrees depending on the ambient tempratures outside. While that 20 degrees is a huge difference, only actually 2 degrees was transferred to the interior of the attic.

This is based on the fact that both attics WERE PROPERLY VENTILATED. If you are counting on the shingle to keep your roof warm in the winter, you've got problems. It is the job of insulation to keep the conditioned air from mixing with the attic air. So you deinfetly would want to address proper attic insulation. I believe the new code for your region would be about an R 49 which is about 12" of insulation (depending on type). Not knowing the age of your house or anything about it, I'd guess you have an R 18 or less.

Then with proper insulation, a properly designed attic ventilation system will evacuate any moist or heated air. In theory the attic should always be as close to the exterior temprature as possible.

What I neglected to mention is the life of the shingle. While this is only my opinion I do not have any statistical data to back it up... I beleive that in theory the lighter color shingle will last longer than the darker color shingle because with a 20 degree temprature difference it is only logical that the asphalt degrades quicker in the hotter shingle. HOWEVER I will also tell you that in my opinion NO SHINGLE lasts as long as it is marketed for, and this is not always because of failures of the product. People move, the new owners don't like the colors. A major storm hits the area and the insurance buys you a new roof. Maybe you have a couple leaks and decide to repalce the roof instead of repair it. While I beleive it is possible that a properly installed 30 year shingle could last 30 years, I seldom ever see a 20 year old shingle. I'd say that you can expect to get 17-20 years out of your roof regardless if you install a 20-30-40 what ever. That's just my opinion based on my experience.

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