Don't act like one cruddy CH is the reason why they didn't show up for this, cause it's not, not even close.

Lol, where did I say that was the reason? Someone before said there wasn't any challengers this week and there is one. Some of the guys don't have enough money to travel to IW where they are not guaranteed to break even for travel and accommodation if they fail to make the main draw...

Lol, where did I say that was the reason? Someone before said there wasn't any challengers this week and there is one. Some of the guys don't have enough money to travel to IW where they are not guaranteed to break even for travel and accommodation if they fail to make the main draw...

They get 1,400 just for showing up and 2,800 for winning a round, so chances are they will break even.

They get 1,400 just for showing up and 2,800 for winning a round, so chances are they will break even.

I always get the feeling discussing something with you is like discussing something with a nine year old. $1400 isn't really that much when you need to book a return flight to Europe, 3-4 nights of accommodation and other general expenses (keep in mind the guys also have to pay for their coaches, physios etc). For some it is simply not worth it. Players base and plan their schedule around certain parts of the year where they hope to peak. It's impossible to believe they are going to play at their best all year round, especially challenger and futures level players.

It's obviously unusual to see IW have such a low qualies cut off but it's completely understandable at the same time.

I always get the feeling discussing something with you is like discussing something with a nine year old. $1400 isn't really that much when you need to book a return flight to Europe, 3-4 nights of accommodation and other general expenses (keep in mind the guys also have to pay for their coaches, physios etc). For some it is simply not worth it. Players base and plan their schedule around certain parts of the year where they hope to peak. It's impossible to believe they are going to play at their best all year round, especially challenger and futures level players.

It's obviously unusual to see IW have such a low qualies cut off but it's completely understandable at the same time.

That's probably because you just don't get things, but hey, that's life, you live you learn, nothing to be ashamed of. Keep in mind that most players at that level don't have physios or coaches because they as you say, don't have much money, so can't afford them. 1,400 can break you even though at least.

That's probably because you just don't get things, but hey, that's life, you live you learn, nothing to be ashamed of. Keep in mind that most players at that level don't have physios or coaches because they as you say, don't have much money, so can't afford them. 1,400 can break you even though at least.

You're hilarious mate... You just have no idea how the tour works..

Like I said, it's unusual but not unexpected at all. The players couldn't have known this was what the list was going to end up like when they had to sign up.. You'll notice a lot of the guys that pulled out have been playing the European indoor challenger circuit for the last month after the AO.. For them, it's a time to rest, recharge the batteries and start up again in a couple of weeks.. A trip to California from Europe to play in a Masters where they would be thinking there is a good chance they could lose in Rd 1 of qualies would not be beneficial in any way..

Like I said, it's unusual but not unexpected at all. The players couldn't have known this was what the list was going to end up like when they had to sign up.. You'll notice a lot of the guys that pulled out have been playing the European indoor challenger circuit for the last month after the AO.. For them, it's a time to rest, recharge the batteries and start up again in a couple of weeks.. A trip to California from Europe to play in a Masters where they would be thinking there is a good chance they could lose in Rd 1 of qualies would not be beneficial in any way..

Hardly a surprise that this would be the retort, and a very weak one at that, it's pretty obvious here who knows how things work.

Contrary to your extensive analysis as to why so many players are missing here? Please, enlighten me mate... Show me the light..

I'm as stumped as you are, I doubt that it's the 1,400 as you say that's keeping them away, because it's never stopped them before, I don't know if they are recharging their batteries either, because they can do that anytime during the season, plus it's still too early for that, it is maybe possible that a flight from Europe could be the reason, but there was only 1 CH event in Europe last week, the week before IW last year was pretty much the same and more players showed, so best guess is injuries.