Good afternoon. My name is Rob Green. I am from Spartanburg, South Carolina and I will be the interim Executive Director of a new national youth character development program for boys.

Louisville Meeting:

On Saturday, June 29, 2013 a landmark meeting occurred in Louisville, Kentucky. Nearly 50 leaders from around the country came together, each with a strong interest in forming a new scouting-like organization for young men. We had veteran scout leaders, representatives from major faith denominations, and national organizations concerned with youth and families. From that meeting, held less than two weeks ago, the new organization we are announcing today was formed.

What is the new program?

Our vision is to be the premier national character development organization for young men which produces Godly and responsible husbands, fathers, and citizens.

The new program will be an exciting and motivating outdoor-based program focused on leadership and character development for boys, and founded on principles and values that reflect a Christian worldview.

It will be open to all boys irrespective of race, religion, ethnicity, or national origin. Parents from all faiths are welcome to place their children in the program. While boys may come from every religious background, adult leaders in the program  from the National Board level to individual unit volunteers  will adhere to a standard statement of Christian faith and values.

The program and themes will teach practical life skills, an appreciation for the outdoors, service to others, leadership, and character development.

The new organizations name is currently in development and undergoing an extensive process of legal research and trademark protection. The organizational structure and primary programs are also currently being developed.

The Mission

Our mission is simple and clear: to guide generations of courageous young men to honor God, lead with integrity, serve others, and experience outdoor adventure.

National Convention & Launch

Our initial national convention will be held in Nashville, Tennessee on Friday and Saturday, September 6 and 7, 2013.

At the convention the organizations name, logo and branding information will be unveiled along with other program details.

In late November of this year the registration process for chartering new units will be announced along with a transition plan for scouting units interested in the new organization. We will be distinctly different from the Boy Scouts although there will be some similarities. For instance, rank advancements earned within the BSA will be transferable.

In addition, the organizations membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation. The policy will read, in part: the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.

The new organization will be ready to launch on January 1, 2014.

Coalition Partners

There are several national and regional groups working together as a coalition together to form the new organization. They include:

The program will also be modeled after that of the American Heritage Girls. It is our goal to work closely with them to provide Godly, character building programs for our countrys young men and women. American Heritage Girls has been in existence for 18 years and offers a wealth of experience and structure which will help our new national boys organization grow and flourish.

The only bummer is all the property the queers get to keep. Wonder if the feds will try and bar them from using national forests based on their values. Maybe some large donors will get together and buy a Philmont replacement.

7 ... Wonder if the feds will try and bar them from using national forests based on their values. ...

You have a good memory.

5/28/1993 - Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt reinstated a National Park Service order prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in the Service's Western Region. Under the order, BSA members could have been barred from volunteering in the National Parks. Subsequent public outrage over the Secretary's decision ensured that BSA members would not be barred from National Parks.

Sounds just great!
It is one thing to recognize that some boys will exhibit homosexual interests, and to make sure they are welcome and not hurt or discriminated against as they work out their maturation. It is altogether another thing to officially approve of the “gay lifestyle” and invite it to be practiced or paraded openly by said youngsters, and by them to all the other boys in Scouting.

The idea of Scouting is to help boys grow up successfully, not to mis-lead them into dysfunctional lifestyles (which, admittedly, a few will still choose... but Scouting should not be seen as a facilitator or enabler of such a choice).

Man, this is good to hear. I raised my share of hell in scouts, but I can’t begin to count the ways in which it influenced me in a positive way, despite my attempts at the time to screw around.

And maybe that’s the point. Few who enter as a Cub Scout will become an Eagle, but I would argue that every single boy will come out better than he would have if he hadn’t had the positive influence of the old traditional Boy Scouts. Whether you call it osmosis or just good role modeling, it worked for many years, and I’m delighted that some of these new organizations are picking up that mantel.

I believe a lot of Scouts and Scouting units were going to tough it out as long as they could in the absence of any alternative. But with the promotion of this new organization, I pray that many more will flee the old sodomized organization for the new one.

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posted on 07/09/2013 2:33:05 PM PDT
by fwdude
( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)

I think I am suggesting something slightly different, that scouting recognize the sexual interests of boys that age and respond to it in positive ways, insofar as possible, such as thru counseling and maybe some programmatic content that upholds positive roles for the boys to aspire to or grow into.

but your approach could work, too. do you think it is realistic to maintain “nothing sexual should be allowed at all” in Scouting? I mean, they are boys of that age....

and many parents put their boys into scouting hoping for some sort of positive role modeling or at least guidance, perhaps to reinforce what they are trying to provide their kids at home...or perhaps because the parents cannot provide it.

I know there aren't a lot of spare dollars floating around these days, but if there are, this is certainly an organization that demonstrates a commitment (at least on paper) to principles conservatives can support.

I'll withhold judgment until I see them prove themselves true to their word, but if they can live the values they espouse, I'll contribute.

I don’t really think that “if they are old enough for sex, they are old enough to move out and get jobs.”

Indeed, it is the ages of most of these boys when they are interested in learning about sex (a mild way of stating it), but are still far too young to move out and get jobs on their own (at least, in modern America).

those “difficult years” if you will .... that all parents have to try to deal with successfully. Scouting can be a lot of help, especially when there is no man in the home...

While adhering to traditional Christian principles is a good foundation, what will sell the organization are the traditional skills taught to the boys.

One of the worst mistakes the BSA made prior to this fiasco was in the 1970s, when they decided to be trendy and urbanize the scouts, with a big push for minority recruitment. It was an unmitigated disaster, created the most unpopular Boy Scout Manual, and resulted in the expensive ruination of several campgrounds.

If you can imagine a Scout Manual written by a community organizer...

In any event, what will appeal to boys and their parents are backwoods and other terrain survival skills and tool use, including knife, hatchet, axe, bow and arrow, rifle, handgun, and shotgun, ropes and knot work, cooking, hygiene, first aid, swimming and running. I would strongly suggest teaching them some judo and karate as well.

In addition, the organizations membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation. The policy will read, in part: the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.

Not feasible. What you are proposing would be an intervention of sorts. Where do you propose the bodies come from? Have you looked at the numbers of actual involved parents/volunteers? In many units it is abysmal, barely adequate in some units for them to function.

Scouting is run by volunteers at the local level and many are not in any position to deal with the issues that are the domain of the family of the Scout.

BSA should have remained Asexual, as it is, they’ve sold out to the homo lobby, activists and agenda.

It is imperative that any future Scouting remain asexual, it is not the purpose or the responsibility of Scouting to “counsel” these boys. It is the family’s. How are we to “reinforce what they[parents] are trying to provide at home”? Are we to require questionaires, interviews, binders and files full of personal information relating to each individual family’s values and beliefs?

The positive role models are the leaders, that is why units must take extra care in selecting those who are placed as direct contact leaders. To ensure only the best role models are placed with the boys.

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posted on 07/09/2013 5:31:01 PM PDT
by SZonian
(Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)

In addition, the organizations membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation. The policy will read, in part: the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.

Whoo Hoo!!!

Moral absolutes ping.

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posted on 07/09/2013 7:10:17 PM PDT
by metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)

1972  1979  At the end of the 1960s, BSA National saw the underserved communities, primarily in urban areas, and created a new "Urban Emphasis" program. The BSA's modernization was consistent with similar trends in Scouting all over the world starting in the 1960s. Much of these changes could be seen in the 8th edition of the Boy Scout Handbook used from 1972 - 79. The junior leader system, known as the green bar patrol was renamed the Leadership Corps. A significant uniform change in the Boy Scout program was made when BSA dropped the traditional garrison cap and adopted a red beret. The rank requirements were changed such that a scout could earn the First Class rank without ever going camping. A tidal wave of frustration arose among veteran scouters who accused the BSA of taking the outing from Scouting. The change was so drastic and unpopular that by 1976 long-time veteran, and retired, scouter, William Green Bar Bill Hillcourt, began writing the 9th edition of the Boy Scout Handbook to bring back the outdoor camping skills that were omitted in the 8th edition. The Leadership Corps also went back to the green bar patrol system, now referred to as the patrol leaders council. The Urban Emphasis program was the forerunner of the Scoutreach Division of BSA which was created in 1994 to provide service to rural and urban areas and to minority populations.

1973  Total youth membership in all 3 BSA programs (Cub, Boy, Explorer) peaked at 4,852,827. It has been generally declining ever since. Other programs were added after 1973 = Tiger Cubs, Webelos, Varsity, Venture, and Learning for Life. It is difficult to find the membership data for the separate programs since 1975. BSA National tends to combine all 3 Cub programs together and Varsity with Boy Scouts. Then you have the confounding problem when BSA stopped reporting Exploring and Learning for Life membership numbers because they were separated out from the traditional programs in the late 1990s. So, the simplest graph to gain sense of BSAs health would be to look at the youth membership numbers in troops.

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