Virtue has been saying that they will be coming out with a new product called the "spire" for about a month now. They just recently announced it will be a loader and put up a few very small teaser pictures.

One of the main features of our new Spire loader! The Spire Drive. The Spire Drive's Flex Cycle allows the Spire to feed even the most brittle paint and its spring loaded arms slide underneath and push jams out of the way before they occur.

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comparing it to the rotor, that drive system would need to be towards the back of the loader to accommodate the height. maybe the design has it sit very close or on top of the feed neck like the rotor to offset the height.

I am very concerned about the use of rubber. I would think that it leads to much more jams than "hard" but flexible plastic due to the stickiness of the rubber. I mean, we all remember how Virtue's rubber Rotor arm was trash and it caused more jams than the stock one. I hope this isn't another NXE JRNY.

I've used the prototype Spire at a tournament and it worked flawlessly. It was used on a DM10, Cocker, Excalibur and a Bob Long Victory. It was all covered in camo tape so no one would know I was using it, since it was still a secret at that time. I can't answer all the tech questions about it but I can say it was working better than all the Rotors around me. The Rotors were all jamming, not just a couple of them, but 95% of them (including mine). We think it was from the small bore paint. The Spire didn't jam once, it worked on every gun without an issue. The best way I can describe it is when a ball would jam the spire would 'jump' up and over the problem ball and reset itself in proper position (hence the need for the 'Spire' part). The flip lid is a little different in angle of position, but worked fine. It did NOT have a crown on it. The shells came apart easily, and are similar to the Rotor and the entire unit was super easy to take apart and clean if needed. The tall 'Spire' piece does NOT sit under the flip lid, it's farther in and doesn't get in the way of anything, loading or otherwise. I myself plan on using one, due to the fact that it was problem free, for both myself and a team mate who tried it (We wanted to see how it did with his BL Victory). I like the Rotor, but honestly the Spire worked better at this event. Right now the MSRP is set under that of the DYE Rotor, just fyi.

At this point I don't even care any more. Virtue's dragging this out longer than they need to. It doesn't appear to be revolutionary in any special way that would make me drop any of my current loaders to buy one. I applaud them for their ability to keep everything secret and release info on their terms, but it's time to show the product.

At this point I don't even care any more. Virtue's dragging this out longer than they need to. It doesn't appear to be revolutionary in any special way that would make me drop any of my current loaders to buy one. I applaud them for their ability to keep everything secret and release info on their terms, but it's time to show the product.

Agreed, time to release full pics, price, AND release date. It will most likely come out at Cup.