20% off sale for El Rey contest entrants

Good til 5/25. Sounds like a decent offer to me. Does anyone here have plans to take Ventana up on this offer? Good for the El Rey, El Ciclon, and El Chucho. I find that I just keep coming back to thoughts of owning an El Ciclon.

This is actually disturbing news for me as I bought a bike in January- a Taiwanese Titus El Guapo; Great bike, only wish the chainstays were a bit shorter than 17.36" and the seattube a tad slacker than 72*, and son-of-a-gun the El Ciclon is exactly that. Plus the EG's geo is set up for a taller A2C fork than the 515 A2C set that I run.

Made in the U.S.A is a big deal to me, and the fact that my main objective is fun. From what I've read the 2012 EC is the wheelie and bunny hop facilitator I should have bought to begin with.

I guess I am curious about Horst link vs. single pivot for braking upon descent, but in the end I don't think it amounts to much considering all i've read from current owners and the absolute stunning execution and build quality. I find differing suspension designs interesting, but for me it takes a back seat to geometry in terms of importance.

Below is a shot of my current ride. It looks the part, but I can't help but think I would be rewarded with more fun and pride of ownership with the El Ciclon.

I think I will be giving Ventana a call tommorrow, Thanks for letting me talk myself into it

I also plan to call them later today. I had pretty much decided on a Turner 5-Spot until I got the e-mail about this discount. Made in USA is all important to me. I like the El Guapo, but ruled it out for that reason. Now I am on the fence between the El Ciclon and the El Chucho. The idea of the El Chucho is appealing as it corrects some of my dislikes about 29ers (overall big and long feeling, less agile, taller overall gearing). I'm concerned about the difference of front and rear travel. I need more glowing Ciclon references to make me save a hundred bucks and just play it safe with the straight 26er. It may come down to what they have in stock because I need a medium frame asap.

Axe, the Zeus would be right for you I believe, 650B and room for a bottle mount.

I am about to recieve my order of Nicolai Helius AM frame. Should be able to convert it to 650b (with making a shorter upper shock mount and not using the maximum travel position, and with 160mm Fox fork, once it is out. Will be very close to Zues geometry, if my calculations are correct). That should be it for my frame purchasing for a while... But the El Rey is very tempting. I wonder if I can sell a bike or two.

Originally Posted by Jon Richard

Iím talking with Daryl at Form Cycles about putting a Ventana Rear on a custom stainless front triangle.

I'm thinking El Ciclon geometry, but with KVA stainless and a straight top tube.

Awesome. But I would have waited for 650b designed around the 140mm RS fork - lighter complement to El Guapo...

I am about to recieve my order of Nicolai Helius AM frame. Should be able to convert it to 650b (with making a shorter upper shock mount and not using the maximum travel position, and with 160mm Fox fork, once it is out. Will be very close to Zues geometry, if my calculations are correct). That should be it for my frame purchasing for a while... But the El Rey is very tempting. I wonder if I can sell a bike or two.

Wow, Iím still reacclimating to the new world of mountain biking after about a 15 year break so that Nicolai is new to my eyes. Is there anything the Germans canít perfect?

Originally Posted by Axe

Awesome. But I would have waited for 650b designed around the 140mm RS fork - lighter complement to El Guapo...

I hear ya, but Iím all about the shorter chain stays and Iím loving 150mm of travel for trail use. I was planning to put the Maverick forks on the Form and find something taller for the Guapo.

Well, there's only one thing... Ventana doesn't make the NEW Generation rear tri's for the custom builders. They make and produce the previous generation rear tri's.

The Ciclon can be had with straight tubes, for probably considerably less than a Form custom, just give V a call and ask about a custom build.

Ouch. Daryl at Form didn't flinch when I explained I wanted the 2012 assymetric rear, if thats the case it's a deal breaker for me.

There is no doubt Ventana could save me some cash even going custom, but man that new KVA stainless is awesome stuff. It's certainly not needed, but I can spare the extra money at the moment and feel I'm in a position to put together something real special for myself, something I used to dream about when I was riding lugged steel frame hardtails.