i dont know bro, but when I was researching primatene vs bronkaid, I came across stx's post on the two, and found you actually get slightly more ephedrine with the sulfate, and most seem to agree it last longer as well.

I figured using the primatene wouldn't be too different than the bronkaid, so when I tried to save a few bucks, i went with a box of primatene, and was disapointed as you were.

so yea, you get more ephedrine with 2 tabs of primatene vs 1 tab of bronkaid, but i look at it like this, you have to make a fair comparison, if your gonna use 2 tabs of primatene for your comparison, you gotta use 2 tabs of bronkaid for it, and that way, you get alot more ephedrine per tablet.

maybe you should bump it up to 3 and see how it treats you? i havn't tried that.

asia black has alot more other sht in it stimulant wise than the ephedra extracts.

only place you can get pure ephedrine hcl from is canada, or some other country, i havn't seen anyplace that sells it in the us.

if those otc stims work for you jasen, may just have to stick with them. I know there is some ingredient that gets put in all the otc stims, and i dont know if im allergic or what, but after i take a serving of any otc stim product, i feel like i've smoked crystal meth, and am basically high for a day or two. which i dont like. but with purely ephedrine + caffiene, it's nice.

i had seen a calculation made that showed how much caffiene you needed to go with the ephedrine, but it's 200 plus mg's.

The first time I tried primatene with C + A I had an amazing workout - this continued for a few weeks until it eventually started getting less and less. Then again I had not used stims for a long time before then.

Glad it worked out for you. I don't know anyone who doesn't respond to true ECA.

I don't, but I think I might have a medical condition (something I'm pursuing). I used to get really wired from even pseudophedrine, which I took whenever I had an infection and was too congested to sleep, until one day it stopped working. Moving along, about a year later, I tried ECA and could go to bed even 20 minutes after dosing

I am going to drop eca for a bit, I have had crazy headaches and and slight diziness, signs of highBP? And since I'm adding sd today I honestly don't think it would b great idea to b continuing eca. I will drop bak down to oep since I felt very good whole time I have beeb on that

ha ha, yea, thats from an increase in bp. take a break from the stims, maybe take some more cycle support, then when your feeling ready, start off with one tab. if you give yourself a break from all the caffiene, and pre w/o's, i'd say a week or two, you should be good.