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Re: My Little Pony LIV:E Long and Pony!

Okay, so I'm finally working up motivation to restart work on my Fluttershy Mindscape fic, for its own sake. But I have a feeling that one of the core concepts is lacking: the cause of the conflict.

Let me recap since it's been so long since I've worked on this. The central concept is that through some mystical aid, Pinkie explores Fluttershy's mindscape to figure out what's got her critically depressed and avoiding all contact. The source of all this is an out of control Inner Critic dominating her mindscape and Pinkie goes through and talks to and deals with the other aspects of her personality to figure out what happened and how to deal with it.

Now this is where I'm having trouble. Currently what I have is that an accident in the marketplace has dredged up memories of a time when her exuberance unintentionally created a situation where an animal became severely injured. The problem that I have is that I can't really tie this to have her blaming herself over being joyful causing injuries. Would it make more sense for the resurgence of this memory to cause her to be ultra-careful to the point of not doing anything? Or should I change the cause of the rise of self-loathing?

I don't think you really need to change it. One of the things about irrational people is that their connections and motivations don't quite make sense. Having the experience be slightly off relative to what's happening might make the reader uncomfortable in a way that genuinely matches what's going on in the story.

The Lyra and BonBon tie (TieraBon, heh) is tempting, but there's no place I would go that involves both
a) wearing a tie and
b) being able to get away with that tie.

I own a Looney Tunes tie, which is far more mainstream, and I still basically never wear it because it's too informal for anything in law that requires you wear a tie. And, if the place is informal enough not to require a tie, why would I wear one?

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Quoting myself again. There isn't a lot of response to these lately. I hope it's not a sign that no one wants to read my story

Still haven't heard from EqD either, probably not going to at this point. Maybe I should try resubmitting it a final time, after all

My apologies, I meant to read it yestereday, but something came up. I'll try and do so this afternoon.

Just call me Diego. Mr. Havoc was my father.

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Originally Posted by SiuiS

Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.

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Originally Posted by Soras Teva Gee

Fascinating but is it relevant? I still infer they can repeat animation same as the models. We know from Lyra and her crazy jumping. Also a couple of times you can see things like Pegasi wings beating in identical rhythms

Well, firstly, I was trying to clarify that what what you were talking about isn't "Flash" animation itself. People tend to associate symbol animation as the only way of using Flash, but you can quite easily do traditional, single-cell animation, and plenty ofpeopledo.
Also, the "additive" thing you mentioned isn't strictly true. A lot of animators who use symbols just have a library filled with vectored body parts created in Illustrator, which they then manipulate and animate in Flash by turning them into "symbols". Re-using old symbols that have already been created, and maybe adding to them isn't necessarily true and has less to do with Flash or symbols and more to do with saving time and money, like when Disney trace over their old animations.
I'm not saying that FiM DEFINITELY doesn't do it, they may very well, but it's not because of the animation technique that they're using.

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Originally Posted by Nameless

I think the animation process is kind of similar to how they animate in 3D, minus the library part, but I don't know enough about 3D animation to say for sure.

3D animation can be produced by onion skinning (manual frame-by-frame work), keyframe tweens, and raw programming- as well as many other techniques. People tend to believe there's only one way to work with 3D models, but... Well... You know where I'm going with this.

"Okay, so I'm going to quick draw and dual wield these one-pound caltrops as improvised weapons..."
---
"Oh, hey, look! Blue Eyes Black Lotus!" "Wait what, do you sacrifice a mana to the... Does it like, summon a... What would that card even do!?" "Oh, it's got a four-energy attack. Completely unviable in actual play, so don't worry about it."

Re: My Little Pony LIV:E Long and Pony!

I've decided that we ALL need some good old fashioned brain-bleach. Why? I dunno, but brain-bleach is always good!

Please enjoy the cute.

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Ngoufv!

(That is an approximate transcription of the noise that escaped my lips on seeing that.)

Originally Posted by Deadly

Twilight's mom is the author of the Daring Do books?

Nah, but she is the one who gets her name on the cover. She's worked out a deal with Daring's cousin, who actually writes the books but from whom nobody would buy them. But she does write other stories - the Con Mane novels, for instance.

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And here I thought it was Applebloom waking up after a wild party at Pip's.

Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

Well yeah, cause straight mares tend to be boring.

Tend to, but they shouldn't have to. They can easily set up a great comical based on the "Gone Sane in a Crazy World" scenario. And like you and Lich pointed out-- Added sardonic wit would work, yes.

Originally Posted by Deadly

2. Look at Scootaloo's wolf costume. Does that looks like something she made herself, or bought cheap? Not by a long shot. Clearly she has parents who can afford a quality costume for Nightmare Night

What if Scoots had some freaky knowledge of sewing and was a good cosplayer?

Originally Posted by Thanqol

This. Applejack is two drinks away from being an excellent character.

Okay, now I'm picturing an episode where AJ gets drunk and throws a BETTER party than Pinkie Pie. Pinkie, not willing to accept second-best Pony position, plays "Keeping up with the Jones" and throws an even bigger party of Epic proportions.

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I played some Pony Fantasy VI last night, and being bored as I grind for some magic points, I came up with a new game-- "Crusaders' Towers"!
To play the game, I make a team of Applebloom, Sweetie Belle, Scootaloo, and one more member (any unicorn or alicorn). The object of the game is to get the CMC safely to the top of Fanatics' Tower and back down again without using Wall Rings or the reflect spell. Since only magic can be used, Bloom and Scoots can wear Berzerk Rings.

So far the record is held by Trixie who got the CMC up to the top of the tower and halfway back down before a CMC member fell (Bloom). Celestia was a couple floors away from the top before Scootaloo was made into fried chicken with a Flare spell. Twilight got maybe a third the way up the tower before she was hit with a confusion spell and then nuked her party with Ultima.

Originally Posted by Gamerlord

Hey, that's been my headcanon for months! Have the people at Hasbro been reading my mind?

You never know.
Years back I once did a silly comic of a professor trying to make Tuna Cassarole and ended up making the Powerpuff Girls. A couple months later I see a Cartoon Network ad for PPG that looked awfully similar to my comic.

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Originally Posted by OracleofWuffing

3D animation can be produced by onion skinning (manual frame-by-frame work), keyframe tweens, and raw programming- as well as many other techniques. People tend to believe there's only one way to work with 3D models, but... Well... You know where I'm going with this.

So that's what onion skinning means.
*makes notes*
Terminology 3D people keep using around me have been extruding the NURBS out of me!

Nah, but she is the one who gets her name on the cover. She's worked out a deal with Daring's cousin, who actually writes the books but from whom nobody would buy them. But she does write other stories - the Con Mane novels, for instance.

(The cousin in question is, of course, Miss Ditzy Do.)

I can headcanon either of these.

Originally Posted by DigoDragon

Tend to, but they shouldn't have to. They can easily set up a great comical based on the "Gone Sane in a Crazy World" scenario. And like you and Lich pointed out-- Added sardonic wit would work, yes.

Thus why I said tend. xD

Okay, now I'm picturing an episode where AJ gets drunk and throws a BETTER party than Pinkie Pie. Pinkie, not willing to accept second-best Pony position, plays "Keeping up with the Jones" and throws an even bigger party of Epic proportions.

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Already my headcanon. How else could she be rich enough to afford Canterlot and influential enough to have her children become respectively the Princess's protege and chief of the guards?

Originally Posted by Kd7sov

Ngoufv!

(That is an approximate transcription of the noise that escaped my lips on seeing that.)

Nah, but she is the one who gets her name on the cover. She's worked out a deal with Daring's cousin, who actually writes the books but from whom nobody would buy them. But she does write other stories - the Con Mane novels, for instance.

(The cousin in question is, of course, Miss Ditzy Do.)

Don't be silly. Ditzy just tells Twilight's mom about her sister, Daring. Then, Twilight's mom spices it up a little. Only reason she's not facing a lawsuit is because Daring likes the publicity it gives her.

The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett

People don't *live* on the Disc anymore than, in less hand-crafted parts of the multiverse, they live on balls. Oh, planets may be the place where their body eats its tea, but they *live* elsewhere, in worlds of their own which orbit very handily around the center of their heads. ~Terry Pratchett again

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Originally Posted by Anarion

I don't think you really need to change it. One of the things about irrational people is that their connections and motivations don't quite make sense. Having the experience be slightly off relative to what's happening might make the reader uncomfortable in a way that genuinely matches what's going on in the story.

I'm just wondering if it's in character for her. She doesn't look where she's going while singing and causes a domino effect by knocking some carts over and causing havoc in the marketplace. Is this enough of a connection to bring back the old memory and traumatize her into being reclusive?

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Originally Posted by PhantomFox

I'm just wondering if it's in character for her. She doesn't look where she's going while singing and causes a domino effect by knocking some carts over and causing havoc in the marketplace. Is this enough of a connection to bring back the old memory and traumatize her into being reclusive?

Trauma ponies! Dun dun duuuun!

Isn't there some sort of surgery game called trauma ward or something? That'd be silly to see pony-fied. The main character could be an earth pony surgeon, struggling to show his chops in the unicorn dominated industry!

Yes, you do have this effect on ponies. Now I kind of picture you as a pretty version of the emperor from Star Wars, laughing maniacally as you go "yes, yes, let the shipping flow through you."

Originally Posted by PhantomFox

I'm just wondering if it's in character for her. She doesn't look where she's going while singing and causes a domino effect by knocking some carts over and causing havoc in the marketplace. Is this enough of a connection to bring back the old memory and traumatize her into being reclusive?

If that ends up causing any kind of panic or screaming, probably yes. I mean, we see her call herself a loud mouth during the gala when she can't get near the animals. If her singing and carelessness caused widespread chaos and she was otherwise in the right mood, she'd probably freak out.

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Originally Posted by PhantomFox

I'm just wondering if it's in character for her. She doesn't look where she's going while singing and causes a domino effect by knocking some carts over and causing havoc in the marketplace. Is this enough of a connection to bring back the old memory and traumatize her into being reclusive?

Could be. It doesn't even need to be a big disaster. A mean pony who just hates that song or something and lectures her on being so noisy could work. It really depends on the memory. I think it would be funny if the 'traumatic memory' was something that's actually really minor like waking up her foalsitter and getting yelled at.

The Lyra and BonBon tie (TieraBon, heh) is tempting, but there's no place I would go that involves both
a) wearing a tie and
b) being able to get away with that tie.

I own a Looney Tunes tie, which is far more mainstream, and I still basically never wear it because it's too informal for anything in law that requires you wear a tie. And, if the place is informal enough not to require a tie, why would I wear one?

I find myself in much the same position, just replacing "law" with "accounting".

Originally Posted by Deadly

Twilight's mom is the author of the Daring Do books?

Well, that could explain how Twilight had enough books to build her forts when she was a filly .

If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.

When in doubt, set something on fire. If not in doubt, set something on fire anyway.

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Originally Posted by Anarion

The Lyra and BonBon tie (TieraBon, heh) is tempting, but there's no place I would go that involves both
a) wearing a tie and
b) being able to get away with that tie.

I own a Looney Tunes tie, which is far more mainstream, and I still basically never wear it because it's too informal for anything in law that requires you wear a tie. And, if the place is informal enough not to require a tie, why would I wear one?

Originally Posted by Alabenson

I find myself in much the same position, just replacing "law" with "accounting".

Buck the trend! Express yourselves.
Although I can't say I like any of those tie's colors. And I am one of those people that would throw on a tie for no reason but to look semi-professional-casual. Rolled up sleeves on a colored collared shirt with contrasting colored tie make you pop and stand out. Add light khaki slacks, comfortable loafers, and a stylish hat to finish up your look, one that Rarity would approve.

Originally Posted by Deadly

Twilight's mom is the author of the Daring Do books?

And that why Twilight called it "Daring Do and the Quest for the Sapphire Statue" instead, it's the original title from the manuscripts instead of the published title.

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Nice! I thought you might switch avys to one of those, I just didn't expect the Angel one.

Originally Posted by Thanqol

I read a fanfic which predicted this. It involved Rainbow Dash writing a slashfic where she shipped herself with Twilight's mom. Twilight found it creepy, Rainbow Dash didn't understand why.

That's... interesting. Link?

Originally Posted by Tectonic Robot

Trauma ponies! Dun dun duuuun!

Isn't there some sort of surgery game called trauma ward or something? That'd be silly to see pony-fied. The main character could be an earth pony surgeon, struggling to show his chops in the unicorn dominated industry!

Trauma Center. And the main character in that had magical powers so...

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Just call me Diego. Mr. Havoc was my father.

Originally Posted by Rich Burlew

Dear Reader Who Emailed That They’re Not Buying My Book Because I Recently Included a Gay Character: I deeply apologize for waiting so long. Had I been more proactive in offending your sensibilities, you could have stopped reading years ago. It won’t happen again, I assure you.

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Originally Posted by SiuiS

Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.

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Originally Posted by Kairaven

Buck the trend! Express yourselves.
Although I can't say I like any of those tie's colors. And I am one of those people that would throw on a tie for no reason but to look semi-professional-casual. Rolled up sleeves on a colored collared shirt with contrasting colored tie make you pop and stand out. Add light khaki slacks, comfortable loafers, and a stylish hat to finish up your look, one that Rarity would approve.

Sadly, accounting is one of those unfortuneate professions where "bucking the trend" is synomamous with "unemployed" .

Originally Posted by Kairaven

And that why Twilight called it "Daring Do and the Quest for the Sapphire Statue" instead, it's the original title from the manuscripts instead of the published title.

And I see that Twilight is from nobility is catching on.

Twilight being nobility has always been my headcannon, but that's partly due to my having a half-formed idea for a fic where she inherits a castle from a great-uncle.

If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.

When in doubt, set something on fire. If not in doubt, set something on fire anyway.