There is potential to make a pretty decent player in the future. Right now suitable for District Divison 1 and lower but, with proper care, possibly a nice player even for the 2nd League. I would develop her myself but I made a mistake in planning and already have 4 players to raise for the future.

Asking price is much lower than investments into special training and that hurts me the most. 11750 is definitely a bargain price.

Tired of translating to deutsch so I'll just write my comments here in english.

Didn't mean to insult anyone or something like that...Maybe I am a little bitter because of low selling price of Javor, even though I know why he is a somewhat deficient player (for Bundesliga teams)...Honestly, I expected a price between 57 and 62 k at most...Good job for Sebert

My other comments were about "players who will never learn" and I stand by it...Even after so many seasons, some guys still make the same mistakes while buying players..No real plan or strategy..I guess the game needs many different players, even guys like that but that makes it a little less competitive than it could be..

I just can't understand how someone is willing to pay 60-70k or more for a developing player that is already doomed at the age of 16-19..Even after seasons and seasons of careful development, with quite high costs, there isn't a guarantee that you'll get a real Bundesliga player, I'd say quite the opposite, there is a quarantee that most players won't be good enough because some mistakes (or was it intentional) were made in the development before that (main reason of the sale)..

I could understand if there was a strategy of team reconstruction with some young guns coming out of your own "incubator" so you buy someone in between to get a better age ratio of the team, more balance for the future but usually it's not the reason.

Are some managers still experimenting or just lack a deeper understanding of the game, I don't know, but I see too many "mistake buys" while there are better options on the market..

But like I said earlier too, we're all free to do as we please so all of this is just my "two cents", my opinion that is not important..

Since my English is too bad I let it also times better translate from deepl.

You're right about the transfer market, but there are always different points of view. Does a player always have to become a 1st league player? Some managers might only want to have a player for the next 15 seasons who can keep them in league 2-3 or so and with such players the possible mistakes in training don't matter.

Baumer can become a player who plays well in the upper leagues and can also play balanced in the 1st league, if it fits into the concept the 70.000k are not so much. Alone his special training has already cost about 50.000k.

But you will never understand the transfer market, it is always a matter of supply and demand.

In addition to what ach_ja
wrote, one has to consider that after 15 seasons you can still sell him for around 35 - 40k. So the actual price is 30k (70-40) plus dvelopment costs for a player that may serve you well for many seasons.

Which is also too little, but if you had supported him like Baumer for two years, you would have added another 12,000 special training sessions. And then there's Kondi and motivation trainer, which doesn't make all the difference.

In my opinion, still a better prospect than Baumer, if all the right moves are made...But doesn't matter, I have no problem with that sale...

I decided to completely change the strategy of my second team so Cesar is not that needed anymore. Even though I won't reduce the price because I don't need to sell him at any cost.

Maybe he doesn't look as attractive, but he wasn't raised improperly to look better than he is..I've had players worse than Cesar that became pretty good 2nd league players...So I agree, the price not high enough and I'm not making any profit on him...

Average experience growth per season is about +-15, considering there is a 2 year difference, they are almost the same..Ability wise Cesar would be worse but I personally favour a different ability distribution so I don't think having 5 ability more is necessarily a better thing..

I don't want to continue the discussion any further because I don't want to reveal too much information..Managers with strong analitical skills figure those things out themselves over time and I'm sorry for those who don't..

Edit: just to point out - all coments above and on the deutsch topic are my opinion, not the ultimate truth and I might be wrong.

I'd like to put everything to rest because there is no need to make a big thing out of it.