Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:sonikuuon05/07/06 at 5:53 pm

Don't forget NWA and Ice-T. They started the whole Gangsta Rap thing and started the process of West Coast Rap getting big. Also, I would say REM and Jane's Addiction are definitely the start of the transition to the 90's Alternative Rock Revolution, though I guess you could lump them into your "1990ish alt rock" category.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:velvetoneoon05/07/06 at 6:12 pm

Don't forget NWA and Ice-T. They started the whole Gangsta Rap thing and started the process of West Coast Rap getting big. Also, I would say REM and Jane's Addiction are definitely the start of the transition to the 90's Alternative Rock Revolution, though I guess you could lump them into your "1990ish alt rock" category.

Along with RHCP, though their 1991 album Blood Sugar Sex Magik is more early '90s than transitional. The Pixies are part of the transition, too, away from the Replacements and older college rock and into '90s stuff. Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation is pretty influential that way, too. Yeah, N.W.A. is transitional. So is Tracy Chapman. The '80s-'90s actually had a fairly substantial transition.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:5.19.86on05/07/06 at 9:06 pm

Don't forget NWA and Ice-T. They started the whole Gangsta Rap thing and started the process of West Coast Rap getting big. Also, I would say REM and Jane's Addiction are definitely the start of the transition to the 90's Alternative Rock Revolution, though I guess you could lump them into your "1990ish alt rock" category.

AND don't forget "LL Cool J", "A Tribe Called Quest" and "Public Enemy" doing it for the East Coast

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:Trimac20on05/07/06 at 9:11 pm

Alot of late 80s gangsta rap groups like N.W.A. sounded quite 90s, as alot of late 80s rock groups, such as the Pixies in particular, whose album 'Surfer Rosa' sounds very much ahead of its time. Apart from that, a lot of the ones you mentioned, as well as shows like 'Fresh Prince of Bel Air', 'Full House', later episodes of 'Cheers', 'Rosanne.' T.A.M.N.T. seems more of an 80s thing; I remember watching it as a kid, it had that 'vintage Mario brothers' feel about it. Oh yeah, 8-bit consoles seemed a very 89-90 thing: though released in the mid-80s, I think the peak their popularity was the 89-90 cusp. The Mega-drive came out in '89 and the SNES in 1990.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:velvetoneoon05/07/06 at 10:22 pm

Alot of late 80s gangsta rap groups like N.W.A. sounded quite 90s, as alot of late 80s rock groups, such as the Pixies in particular, whose album 'Surfer Rosa' sounds very much ahead of its time. Apart from that, a lot of the ones you mentioned, as well as shows like 'Fresh Prince of Bel Air', 'Full House', later episodes of 'Cheers', 'Rosanne.' T.A.M.N.T. seems more of an 80s thing; I remember watching it as a kid, it had that 'vintage Mario brothers' feel about it. Oh yeah, 8-bit consoles seemed a very 89-90 thing: though released in the mid-80s, I think the peak their popularity was the 89-90 cusp. The Mega-drive came out in '89 and the SNES in 1990.

Paula Abdul's music still has that totally glossy, synthesizer-heavy sound to it redolent of the '80s, but the dance-club style beats and general arrangement and character of the music are more '90s. Download "Straight Up"...she's not all that different from Janet Jackson. Some of Janet Jackson's 1989 stuff like the song "Come Back to Me" sounds like it could've easily been released in 1996 or 1997. I attribute that to the influence of that album, Rhythm Nation 1814. Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation, with the noise-rock turned into pop-rock subtly, has a more '90s than an '80s sound to it, definitely. It's from 1988. 1987-1989 saw the release of alot of albums that were important on '90s alt rock.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:Trimac20on05/08/06 at 5:43 am

Paula Abdul's music still has that totally glossy, synthesizer-heavy sound to it redolent of the '80s, but the dance-club style beats and general arrangement and character of the music are more '90s. Download "Straight Up"...she's not all that different from Janet Jackson. Some of Janet Jackson's 1989 stuff like the song "Come Back to Me" sounds like it could've easily been released in 1996 or 1997. I attribute that to the influence of that album, Rhythm Nation 1814. Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation, with the noise-rock turned into pop-rock subtly, has a more '90s than an '80s sound to it, definitely. It's from 1988. 1987-1989 saw the release of alot of albums that were important on '90s alt rock.

She also kind of looks like Janet Jackson. Don't you reckon? (I didn't know who she was until I saw American Idol for the first time).

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:Donnie Darkoon05/08/06 at 11:30 am

I'd say the '80s-'90s transitional period is about 1989-1992 (with 1989-early 1991 being more '80s, and late 1991-1992 being more '90s). The '90s-'00s transitional period is 1998-2003.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:velvetoneoon05/08/06 at 12:19 pm

Yeah, the "transitional period" for the '80s was 1989-1992, though 1991-1992 was more '80s, even though there were specific transitional things, like Surfer Rosa, Daydream Nation, Solitude Standing, from 1987-1988 or so.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:Donnie Darkoon05/08/06 at 3:30 pm

Yeah, the "transitional period" for the '80s was 1989-1992, though 1991-1992 was more '80s, even though there were specific transitional things, like Surfer Rosa, Daydream Nation, Solitude Standing, from 1987-1988 or so.

I would say the "Late Eighties" is Fall of 1986 to Spring of 1991. "Early Nineties" is Summer of 1991 to Spring of 1994. However the "Eighties world" lasted from about 1981 to 1992, inclusive. The "Nineties world" existed from 1993 to 2000, inclusive.

Subject:Re: '80s-'90s Transitionals

Written By:velvetoneoon05/08/06 at 4:06 pm

I would say the "Late Eighties" is Fall of 1986 to Spring of 1991. "Early Nineties" is Summer of 1991 to Spring of 1994. However the "Eighties world" lasted from about 1981 to 1992, inclusive. The "Nineties world" existed from 1993 to 2000, inclusive.