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Topic: Chernobyl

Chernobyl dramatizes "the true story of one of the worst man-made catastrophes in history and tells of the brave men and women who sacrificed themselves to save Europe from unimaginable disaster. The miniseries focuses on the heartbreaking scope of the nuclear plant disaster that occurred in Soviet Ukraine in April 1986, revealing how and why it happened and telling the shocking, remarkable stories of the heroes who fought and fell."

I just.... I can't deal with this show. Haunting. Suffocating. Makes my skin crawl. I haven't been this disturbed by a tv show since The Vietnam War doc. It's absolutelly brilliant, don't get me wrong, but after watching two episodes back to back I just feel emotionally drained.

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Orlando wrote:

Makes my skin crawl. I haven't been this disturbed by a tv show since The Vietnam War doc. It's absolutelly brilliant, don't get me wrong, but after watching two episodes back to back I just feel emotionally drained.

Interesting... I already had planned to watch it some day soon, the trailer is really, really good (= believable).

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Will check out a single episode, but already now I think, imo, no American ever will be able to dramatize Chernobyl - and it must be like half a comedy.

From Wiki:

Evacuation began long before the accident was publicly acknowledged by the Soviet Union. In the morning of 28 April, radiation levels set off alarms at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant in Sweden, over 1,000 kilometres (620 mi) from the Chernobyl Plant. Workers at Forsmark reported the case to the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority, which determined that the radiation had originated elsewhere. That day, the Swedish government contacted the Soviet government to inquire about whether there had been a nuclear accident in the Soviet Union. The Soviet government initially denied it, and it was only after the Swedish government suggested they were about to file an official alert with the IAEA, that the Soviet government admitted an accident took place at Chernobyl. At first, the Soviets only conceded that a minor accident had occurred, but once they began evacuating over 100,000 people, the full scale of the situation was realized by the global community.

Americans simply have no way how to depict that level of retardation that was in USSR

All I remember from that time - yeah, something happened, yeah somebody died, let's move on, nobody cares. Also now the people who must worry about the Russian nukes the most, imo, are Russians themselves

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Well, it's just that when I watch stuff about real life events, I get way more anxious. I can watch gore in an action horror whatever and not be fazed by it, but to see the firefighters and plant personel dying and suffering from radiation, along with how the higher up's wanted to conceal everything.... It just gets me man.

Like ep2

+ show spoiler

How they lost contact with the helicopter, and it just smashed into pieces in the air and collapsed. My fucking skin crawled like never in my life.

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Orlando wrote:

ep1

+ show spoiler

I would not call it delusional, just a master of sweeping under the carpet and avoiding the responsibility - whole "superpower" was full of such man. That's what you get when you kill off the intelligent people and staff your government based on commies ass kissing capabilities. That shoe factory guy was a good example.

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Of course, it's just a funny image I liked.

Also, they talked about the "comrade" thing on the podcast - initially they didn't have much of that in the script as it felt over satirical, but when consulted with former USSR residents, they told the creators that indeed people used "comrade" on a daily basis.

I'm too young to know this shit, but I can see how much they want to keep it real, so if they say that's how it was, that's how it was.

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I'm pretty sure that comrade thing died ages before late 80ies, instead they used and still use that strange official form of addressing somebody where they say father's name. Comrade would make sense like in some super official event, commies congress or something like that. Also when that old retard commie was citing Lenin, he referred to him as "Vladimir I. Lenin" - that's what Americans do, Russians always say full name "Vladimir Ilyich Lenin". And that "Ilyich" is that reference to the father Ilya Ulyanov.

In crisis situation, imo, there would be zero "comrade" and like cyka, blyat, nahuj after every 3rd word

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Orlando wrote:

Well, it's just that when I watch stuff about real life events, I get way more anxious. I can watch gore in an action horror whatever and not be fazed by it, but to see the firefighters and plant personel dying and suffering from radiation, along with how the higher up's wanted to conceal everything.... It just gets me man.

But... but... it's not real! I guess I watch scenes like that more from an observer position these days... it was different many years ago when I watched "The Day After", that was intense! (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/ "The effects of a devastating nuclear holocaust on small-town residents" - sounds familiar? )

g371 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that comrade thing died ages before late 80ies, instead they used and still use that strange official form of addressing somebody where they say father's name.

Yeah, that father's name thing, it's really big in some countries... https://www.bellingcat.com/ was able to use that to catch some Russians. Still, not many people (in other countries) know about that, so using "comrade" felt really authentic to me.

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g371 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that comrade thing died ages before late 80ies, instead they used and still use that strange official form of addressing somebody where they say father's name.... - that's what Americans do, Russians always say full name "Vladimir Ilyich Lenin". And that "Ilyich" is that reference to the father Ilya Ulyanov.

In crisis situation, imo, there would be zero "comrade"

Someone local to that area posted an IMDb Review specifically addressing the "comrade" thing. I believe he said it was rarely ever used back then except maybe in some formal settings and would not have been used in the context depicted. He said they often used shortened versions when informally addressing each other ie Vasyl vs Vasily, or something to that effect.

I believe he implied it was a very minor distraction in comparison with the remarkable detail in which they got other things spot on. You'd come across the post fairly quickly if you read some. Many folk allegedly familiar with the event and area left reviews. Quite a lot of praise of the "Western" world's ability to recreate what they perceived as 'highly authentic'...