Chinese are one of the top dogs.The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

When it comes to parenting, most kids I knew who came from the backgrounds she mentioned had crazy overbearing parents who pushed them too hard. Not quite my idea of stellar parenting. I'd probably come up with a different list.To their credit though, the kids who didn't grow up with severe mental health issues are now all successful doctors/lawyers and respected members of their communities. Social Darwinism in action I guess.

serial_crusher:Chinese are one of the top dogs.The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

When it comes to parenting, most kids I knew who came from the backgrounds she mentioned had crazy overbearing parents who pushed them too hard. Not quite my idea of stellar parenting. I'd probably come up with a different list.To their credit though, the kids who didn't grow up with severe mental health issues are now all successful doctors/lawyers and respected members of their communities. Social Darwinism in action I guess.

That's one definition of success I suppose....give birth to a litter of children, ram them thru a brutal training program and the ones that survive are given all the rewards that sucess brings. But..dont the parents still have a responsibility to the kids that don't make the cut? I guess we could do as the Spartans did and abandon the shattered twisted gibbering husks of failed kids on a mountaintop to die a slow death from exposure, but I think we'd also lose the ability to claim we were in any way civilized.

I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful. Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.

jake_lex:I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful. Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.

Well, for them at any rate.

We're still talking about Rome as if they weren't a bunch of psychopathic, slave raping, rapacious warmongers so hopped up on unwatered wine and lead poisoning they didn't even care as they blighted the entirety of Europe repeatedly for more than a 1000 years with blood, pain, and death. Why? Because they wrote stuff down like "Rome is a pretty cool guy. He kills Gauls and doesn't afraid of anything." in their books and those same books became the foundation of our history.

Big deal some dumb broad thinks she is special. Put her to work at a mine, farm, oil patch or any other area where she has to produce results as opposed to running her mouth and we will see how superior she is

RexTalionis:As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.

This.

The dysfunction I had with my mom, she inherited from hers and so on. It ended last month.

Being critical of your child is one thing if accompanied by constructive support; but praise was few and far between. Then she wondered why I didn't seek out her company as I got older. I needed to pursue my dreams without her. So much needless friction. My sister never recovered to be her own independent adult.

When your culture eats its own young, it's time to get another culture.

serial_crusher:Chinese are one of the top dogs.The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian all have way too many cultures to be lumped into one. When you don't break that down, you're consciously or unconsciously using ethnic or racial groupings.

When they came for the communists, I said nothing, for I was not a communist.When they came for the trade unionists, I said nothing, for I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the crazy people, I said nothing, for I was not a crazy person, but they said, no, no, you're in the right line alright, just keep going down that way...

I'd have to see some excepts from the book before I condemn it. People tend to get kneejerk angry over silly things, and I don't trust such people's opinions in general.

Certainly some people claim American culture is inferior to some other comparative culture x. This is a direct statement that some culture x is superior. And to be honest it is often the self-identified enlightened progressives who make such claims. So apparently they do believe a national culture can be superior to others. Many on fark for example.

It's PC for me to question those attacking her, sinceI'm part of the inferior cultures in her opinion, lol.

12349876:serial_crusher: Chinese are one of the top dogs.The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian all have way too many cultures to be lumped into one. When you don't break that down, you're consciously or unconsciously using ethnic or racial groupings.

Just because you look sound and smell like someone does not actually mean you are anything like them.

lumping people together by culture is stupid. Look at your old white straight conservative neighbour to your right and your gay liberal young neighbour to your right.

Same birthplace culture religion and upbringing.yet totally different in every way.

IIRC, her first book was about her transformation from being an overbearing biatch of a parent to someone who learned from her mistakes over time becoming more mature, and less overbearing in her parenting style, and the Wall Street Journal excerpt was taken way out of context.

...so I'm going to take what's written here in the Mail with a grain of salt large enough to satisfy a horse's licking needs.

/A third-generation Japanese-American friend committed suicide this past Halloween because his parents were so unrelentingly disappointed in him, despite he basically supporting them and his siblings.//They covered it up for a month saying he was out of town, until his brother finally broke the news.///Via text from his old phone./Good luck in your old age, Tiger Biatch.

Fair number of folks in Hong Kong believe in some variation of what Tiger Mom preaches even before Tiger Mom became known - both the locals and a good number of the foreign expats. I also have in-laws like this. The whole overriding desire for money, academic/career success, etc., at the expense of normal social/family relationships.

And such attitudes go hand in hand with racist attitude toward various other Asians and ethnicities.