Note: The 4.9.X (32-bit) kernel of Dpup Stretch is now compiled with the retpoline aware GCC 7.3.0 which enables kernel-based mitigation of the spectre_v1 and spectre_v2 processor vulnerabilities. Eventually, kernel devs will add meltdown (Variant 3) mitigation to 32-bit x86 kernels, at which time the default 4.9.X kernel of Dpup Stretch will be updated. Mitigation of the new Variant 4 threat in established Intel chipsets is evolving and will require microcode updates for the Speculative Store Bypass Disable (SSBD) bit.

The optional 4.1.X kernel is EOL (End of Life) as of May 2018, with no built-in mitigation of meltdown or spectre vulnerabilities. Even so, the 4.1.X kernel is a versatile option when Dpup Stretch is installed to older computers.

Importantly, the default Palemoon browser of Dpup Stretch effectively mitigates the risk from speculative execution of malicious javascript characteristic of type 1, 2, 3 and 4 variants. Generally, such browser-based mitigation provides reasonable security against malicious javascript, even if the linux kernel (such as 4.1.X) is not specifically configured for additional mitigation. Of course, if you require even greater assurance, javascript-blocking extensions are available for most browsers including Palemoon.

Note-1: All window mangers, including JWM, have various faults that may require compatibility adjustments. By historical criteria, JWM is the default window manager in standard Puppy and the current JWM-2.3.7 works well for most users. However, there are reports of idiosyncrasies such as an intermittent 'window focus' issue (window becomes unresponsive to user input). If you observe this behavior, simply launching another application may free the 'frozen' window, but not always. The JWM developer is aware of this issue.

As an alternative to JWM, the current Beta-2 release includes a small adrv.sfs which provides an optional desktop environment (fbpanel/openbox) that is both comprehensive and easy to use (go to Puppy Menu -> Desktop -> WM Switcher -> FbBox). However, if you are happy with JWM, or if you plan to install a different desktop environment, just remove the optional adrv.sfs and reboot.

Note-2: As of Beta-2, the gtkfilechooser sidebar of Dpup Stretch no longer displays unwanted binds such as pts, sys or proc. Partitions displayed in the gtkfilechooser do not auto-mount but the user can populate the sidebar with bookmarks such as partitions, folders and files according to personal preference.

Note: Most Pups are released with basic firmware (19 Mb compressed in /lib/firmware of the Dpup zdrv) which provides good support for a wide range of PC hardware. However, if you require additional support not available in Dpup, please go to the following link to access a large repository of firmware assembled by forum member gyro.

Alternatively, gyro's comprehensive firmware package is available in the first post as an fdrv.sfs which you can place with the puppy.sfs and zdrv.sfs in your frugal install, or go to the Multimedia category of the Puppy menu and use ISOMaster to add the fdrv.sfs to the original Dpup iso(s). In both scenarios, the full firmware package will be available automatically each time you boot Dpup Stretch.

Note: The default action of the updated ROX-Filer copy/move dialog (Quiet checkbox ticked, Newer checkbox unticked and Force checkbox unticked) requires user confirmation before overwriting existing destination files. However, this behavior may be tedious for some users when copying or moving multiple files. In this scenario, the Force option (if also ticked) enables immediate overwriting of destination files without serial confirmation dialogs. Importantly, the Force checkbox defaults to the unticked state each time the copy/move dialog is called, and must be manually ticked if you wish to copy/move multiple files without confirmation.

If the 'Newer' checkbox is ticked (and Force unticked), ROX-Filer will only overwrite if source is newer than destination. User confirmation is still required if source is older than destination or if source and destination dates are identical. However, the Force option (if also ticked) will override the Newer option and forcefully overwrite destination files without regard for the file date. Consequently, the Force option should be used with an understanding of its purpose and power.

In the Options Configuration GUI of ROX-Filer there is another 'Force' checkbox which applies to the confirmation dialog you may see when deleting non-writeable items. This option does not control the Force option of the copy/move dialog.

Well, Dpup strecth has is own topic . for testing by testers..
21 ISO files in Ally's repository. Some are replaced by newer versions. Would not it be better to keep only suitable versions, on agreement with the builder.. For instance radky's 18nov2017 and erase previous ones. or not.

Google.drive is perfect for me.. I can even link ISOs to my Drive, without storing them on my hard disk.

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Darn good stuff! Running the 4.1.46 kernel version. I thought you had went to the 4.1.48 kernel, not the ".46"?? Or am I remembering wrong?

Also, is there some sort of general guideline/tips/rules when when a user should run the older kernel vs the newer kernel? For instance, I'm on a core i3 right now, 8gb ram, USB IDE, should I be running the 4.9 kernel instead and not the 4.1? Honestly, this always confuses me. Always asking myself which kernel I should be running

Lastly, gotta say, am glad billtoo and sailor got you to change the tray volume icon----the slider is much, much better than what we were using before.

Otherwise, excellent stuff. Only added latest Firefox for Netflix purposes, as everything else I need is already included & runs great. Love how tight & polished everything is in this pup.

New frugal install on my desktop PC of kernel 4.9.62 version using the fdrv to get wifi firmware for intel 7260 wifi card. All very smooth, as were the alpha releases also. Good move on going with PNMixer, works very nicely. Really nice job on this release overall. Well done. Thank you.

Posted: Sat 18 Nov 2017, 17:23 Post subject:
Is Sysinfo Bar able to be included as a pet

Just wondering whether Sysinfo Bar which is included in FbBox 5.0 could be used by puppies using JWM by having it included, or made available as a stand alone pet. I like having the SysInfo Bar on my dektop. With the current JWMDesk allowing greater customisation with additional panel and its ease of use, I don't feel the need to load FbBox now, other than I am missing not having the SysInfo Bar.

I searched through the PupMates and the included SysInfo Utilities but doesn't appear to include the SysInfo Bar.

Is this a remaster? (there is no woof-CE info line in DISRO_SPECS)
If yes, of which original ISO? (so we can follow the change log - there are several 7.0.02a floating in the forum)_________________== Here is how to solve yourLinux problems fast ==

I no longer have this ISO, and Radky removed it back on 11 Nov, so no way of knowing if the woof-CE build was in that DISTRO_SPECS file. But, still, he wrote (above): "Woof-CE build, testing branch 04-Nov-2017" so....maybe Radky is using Oscartalk's ---a2 build from back in October that he references the Changelog from????

Question for google experts: Are there any bandwidth restrictions (data caps) when using google drive as an iso repository? I assume google will not allow unlimited downloads.

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Also, is there some sort of general guideline/tips/rules when when a user should run the older kernel vs the newer kernel?

I'm not aware of any strict guidelines for kernel choice. The 4.1.XX and 4.9.XX kernels run great on my 2009 Acer laptop and 2012 Dell desktop (both with intel chipsets).

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I had to add "intel_pstate=disable" to the kernel line of menu.lst.

Thanks Bill. It seems the intel_pstate scaling driver is not compatible with some intel chipsets. Your recommended fix will be helpful to others.

Terry H wrote:

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Just wondering whether Sysinfo Bar which is included in FbBox 5.0 could be used by puppies using JWM.

The FbBox sysinfo bar is a modified panel generated by fbpanel. So, adding it to the JWM desktop would require running fbpanel as well. At this point, I have not tested that scenario and can't confirm if it would be feasible.

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Is this a remaster?

No, not a remaster. The alpha releases and current beta release are primary Woof-CE builds (testing branch). All modifications to the default Woof build were implemented in 00build.conf.

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