Although Andorak is the Andorian regional AD arena, is it truly Andorian in flavor? What are your thoughts? Does the fact that killing becomes virtually pointless in AD, and a general apathy towards downchallengers, make it futile to classify it as 'Andorian'? Is there reason to carry on the nerf friendly, purple pansy picking traditions that I love to support in Aruak once in AD?

<note my purple avatar! Mmm...Purple...>

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ManagerrArchMaster Poster

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Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:02 am

If you think think there's apathy towards downchallenging in 105, you haven't been paying attention. Just because it's quiet doesn't mean no one cares, it just means all the various debates have been hashed out already. Have you gotten any challenges from me during the past year? Probably not, and that's because you don't downchallenge.

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Posted:
Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:09 pm

well i did receive a tv challenge from you in 100(no regional affiliation) where you up challenged 1 whole point.....

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Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:10 pm

You haven't seen any from me either

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ManagerrArchMaster Poster

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Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:26 pm

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well i did receive a tv challenge from you in 100(no regional affiliation) where you up challenged 1 whole point.....

I might have been scouting your Freshmen. I don't remember....

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Posted:
Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:20 pm

Maybe I should downchallenge some more

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WoelfeAdvanced Expert Poster

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Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:59 pm

Personally, I don't get what all the hub-bub is about with down challenges and killing.

For one, if your warrior gets killed off it's like strengthening the arena and your team. One less weak link out there holding everyone else back. Heck, you probably didn't want to pump too much cash into this roll-up if it was going to just break your heart anyway - right?

I generally don't down challenge all that much. Now and again, but normally I like to challenge up as high as I can... some might call it suicide, but I prefer to think of it as accelerating my learning curve.

So someone down challenges. Big deal. Just let em play their game and I'll play mine. In the end when your near the top it all pans out. You can beat me now.. or beat me later baby.

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Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:56 pm

Don't know if you were around a few months back, or not, but this issue exploded into an invasion of Aruak City with both Defenders and invaders of the "Andorian creed" coming from miles around to defend their stance. It has died down mostly, but there are a few invaders still amongst us.

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ManagerrArchMaster Poster

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Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:45 pm

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So someone down challenges. Big deal. Just let em play their game and I'll play mine. In the end when your near the top it all pans out. You can beat me now.. or beat me later baby.

How about you go play your game in an arena with a similar mindset? I have no problem with you downchallenging if you play that way, but try to be polite and not do it when the arena community generally does not want to play the same way you do.

WoelfeAdvanced Expert Poster

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Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:07 pm

Managerr wrote:

Quote:

So someone down challenges. Big deal. Just let em play their game and I'll play mine. In the end when your near the top it all pans out. You can beat me now.. or beat me later baby.

How about you go play your game in an arena with a similar mindset? I have no problem with you downchallenging if you play that way, but try to be polite and not do it when the arena community generally does not want to play the same way you do.

I apologize, but after careful checking, I see that there were no rules in my setup packet or the cute little red book on how to play in "particular" arenas.

So, until someone ends up fronting me my $10.75, I play my way and laugh while they !$#! about it.

Not that anyone really complains about me anyhow...

WoelfeAdvanced Expert Poster

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Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:08 pm

Street_Legal wrote:

Don't know if you were around a few months back, or not, but this issue exploded into an invasion of Aruak City with both Defenders and invaders of the "Andorian creed" coming from miles around to defend their stance. It has died down mostly, but there are a few invaders still amongst us.

I wasn't here for that confrontation but do remember hearing about it since then. Heck, when I was playing 8-9 years ago ppl were crying big fat tears about it too. I always figured that if it were THAT important, then RSI would have hard-coded arenas to disallow it. Doesn't appear to me that is the case.

ManagerrArchMaster Poster

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Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:08 am

Quote:

I apologize, but after careful checking, I see that there were no rules in my setup packet or the cute little red book on how to play in "particular" arenas.

So, until someone ends up fronting me my $10.75, I play my way and laugh while they !$#! about it.

Not that anyone really complains about me anyhow...

There are a lot of things in your setup packet that aren't in the rules. That's one of the reasons why they implemented DM 93 so that managers would be able to choose the arenas they play the best.

Too bad I wasn't in your arena. If a new player was nice about it and said they moved into the arena by accident, I would be more than willing to give them enough roll-ups so that they could be competitive in any arena than their choosing, almost all of which would probably be better than their existing teams. It certainly beats them getting beaten down, humiliated and then quitting like what always seems to happen.

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Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:50 am

Managerr wrote:

There are a lot of things in your setup packet that aren't in the rules. That's one of the reasons why they implemented DM 93 so that managers would be able to choose the arenas they play the best.

Too bad I wasn't in your arena. If a new player was nice about it and said they moved into the arena by accident, I would be more than willing to give them enough roll-ups so that they could be competitive in any arena than their choosing, almost all of which would probably be better than their existing teams. It certainly beats them getting beaten down, humiliated and then quitting like what always seems to happen.

You can always stop by and visit us in 22, 54 or 28. I actually play in 3 different affiliated arenas. All of which I'm fond of for different reasons. But I clearly am not in need of sympathy roll-ups. And as for the regular beatdowns, they are a part of the learning process and I'm pretty resilient to boot (despite the buttkicking I'm taking in 36 ).

I'm mostly just stirring the pot and being argumentative. I think for the most part I try to just get along with everyone and generally follow the "unwritten code". I just find it funny that it is such a devisive issue.

ManagerrArchMaster Poster

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Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:46 am

As you can see by the number of players that have been run out of DM 11 and not returned, not everyone is so resilient. You learn faster when in cooperation with others than you will in a solo effor by yourself.

If I wanted to play in a Delarquan arena, I would, but that style of play doesn't appeal to me so I mostly stay out of them. That's the point. Why are you so surprised that people get divisive when you are intentionally trying to stir the pot? Isn't that the point?

youngbloodAdvanced Master Poster

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Posted:
Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:52 pm

i can remember when i first started about a year and a half ago i got my but kicked every turn, the only warrior that won any was my 21 con, 21 will tp, i still get the crap beat out of me sometimes but i love this game and i am glad i hung in there. but i am still going to side with most of the delarqs on this one if you want to be bad guy and kill in an andorian arena then that should be that. if you dont mind me saying, Manager, from what i hear you are one of the best playing the game, if you have a problem with them, do something about it. instead of threading this never ending topic, say, "okay, come in my arena, play the way you want, so will i," make it interesting. i personally think that it would draw in more players, and hell it might keep new players in the game. as for me the only reason i went into 11(which i am currently not running in) was because i was told i wouldnt run the way i want too, and yes i killed 5 warriors in 5 turns, thats just part of the game, and thats what i like about it you dont have to follow the crowd, so i am going to do what i want to do with the money i spend on the game, and i suggest that all you newbies that are tuning in do the same, dont let anyone tell you how you should run in certian arenas, they may hate you for it and kill all your warriors, but hey you get free replacements... anyways i am through rambling.......for now.........youngblood