What better way to boost the economy if we all had a surplus of cash to spend, first thing I would do in my rural town is supply a fully kitted out free ambulance for my town like this kiwi lotto winner did.

but it is only within yourself as your ability to discern for yourself that I indeed actually have spoken with real living people face to face about these issues and am accurately relaying what I have heard.

Yes the GOVT borrows its money from the IMF, who gets it from the World Bank.

Where does the world bank get it from?

I'm thinking that you think it comes from We The People.

But it doesn't.

It comes from NOTHING, it comes from THIN AIR, it comes from THE MINDS OF THE CONTROLLERS OF THE WORLD BANK.

Because that is what fiat currency is, nothing pulled out of thin air.

Then where does all the taxpayers money go every year? To fund tptWERE agendas. The ONLY reason our money system has ANY VALUE WHATSOEVER is because ignorant sheeple accept DEBT AS REAL MONEY while not understanding how direct and indirect taxation is taking back 50%-80% of all that money any given user spends.

They take our time and energy and convert into war etcetc,

and then give us LESS THAN NOTHING in return

because people accept this situation

BY THEIR OWN IGNORANCE of how money is using them.

To be part of the problem is not a solution, no matter how much material convenience it may buy you to tap into a fake account set up by a fraudulent CORP GOVT. Stealing dividends is meaningless compared to the fact that those dividends are based within a system that is purely self defeating.

I still love your statement that if you want to protest, stay at home and grow a garden. At the same time, is that really protest? Can we not simply choose another way without telling others they shouldn't be doing what they are doing?

I don't protest anything, but I absolutely do hold people accountable for any decisions they make which result in criminal outcomes, so this isn't protesting anything, it is simply shining another light of justice and truth on a situation which people desperately need to understand if there is to be any hope of it being fixed.

What better way to boost the economy if we all had a surplus of cash to spend, first thing I would do in my rural town is supply a fully kitted out free ambulance for my town like this kiwi lotto winner did.

but I prefer to help people learn to fish, instead of giving people a fish, because I don't like having to take care of people who won't take care of themselves simply because someone else is willing to do it for them.

but it is only within yourself as your ability to discern for yourself that I indeed actually have spoken with real living people face to face about these issues and am accurately relaying what I have heard.

Yes the GOVT borrows its money from the IMF, who gets it from the World Bank.

Where does the world bank get it from?

I'm thinking that you think it comes from We The People.

But it doesn't.

It comes from NOTHING, it comes from THIN AIR, it comes from THE MINDS OF THE CONTROLLERS OF THE WORLD BANK.

Because that is what fiat currency is, nothing pulled out of thin air.

Then where does all the taxpayers money go every year? To fund tptWERE agendas. The ONLY reason our money system has ANY VALUE WHATSOEVER is because ignorant sheeple accept DEBT AS REAL MONEY while not understanding how direct and indirect taxation is taking back 50%-80% of all that money any given user spends.

They take our time and energy and convert into war etcetc,

and then give us LESS THAN NOTHING in return

because people accept this situation

BY THEIR OWN IGNORANCE of how money is using them.

To be part of the problem is not a solution, no matter how much material convenience it may buy you to tap into a fake account set up by a fraudulent CORP GOVT. Stealing dividends is meaningless compared to the fact that those dividends are based within a system that is purely self defeating.

I still love your statement that if you want to protest, stay at home and grow a garden. At the same time, is that really protest? Can we not simply choose another way without telling others they shouldn't be doing what they are doing?

I don't protest anything, but I absolutely do hold people accountable for any decisions they make which result in criminal outcomes, so this isn't protesting anything, it is simply shining another light of justice and truth on a situation which people desperately need to understand if there is to be any hope of it being fixed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward and have since heard of people getting cheques for six figures from the GOVT because of accessing this money,

Money is backed by your hard work the world over, your potential earnings is what backs the fake money.

Our tax dollars go straight to repay the grubbyMINTS(GM) borrowings,VIA the IRD,CRA,IRS or what ever its called in your place of domicile. The GMINT borrows more money to pay for our hospitals, schools and infrastructure.

If the tax collected is repaying the loan, and the money is backed by our hard work and future income, I for one forgive the debt, and you should to.

Think of the savings getting rid of all the tax agencies, the world over, no more war for one.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem, and I applaud your response, I suspect maybe our commonwealth connection.

Just look at that word will ya commonwealth, not commonpoorslavebastards.

Money is backed by your hard work the world over, your potential earnings is what backs the fake money.

Our tax dollars go straight to repay the grubbyMINTS(GM) borrowings,VIA the IRD,CRA,IRS or what ever its called in your place of domicile. The GMINT borrows more money to pay for our hospitals, schools and infrastructure.

If the tax collected is repaying the loan, and the money is backed by our hard work and future income, I for one forgive the debt, and you should to.

Think of the savings getting rid of all the tax agencies, the world over, no more war for one.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem, and I applaud your response, I suspect maybe our commonwealth connection.

Just look at that word will ya commonwealth, not commonpoorslavebastards.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517582

We are definitely on the same track here, no doubt.

At the same time, I must refure your tptWERE perspective that fiat currencies are backed by people's hard work.

It's not.

Again, the only reason We The People accept fiat currency is because of the general IGNORANCE of how money works,

because if the masses actually took some time to figure out how this system actually works,

THEY WOULD NOT SUPPORT ITS CRIMINAL PROCEDURES AND PRINCIPLES.

Our fiat money system is backed by COMPLACENCY AND IGNORANCE, which is annually bought and paid for by the fact that so many people have been disempowered to the point of thinking they NEED AND ARE THEREFORE DEPENDING ON MONEY TO SURVIVE.

If I had to pack my shit and leave now, I would be fully confident of my ability to make my own shelter, find enough to eat and generally survive out in the wilderness. Most people are not in this boat because they have spent all their life being codependent on money to provide the trading means to acquire what they want and need.

Furthermore, there is NOTHING TO FORGIVE because the debt as it currently exists IS NOT REAL.

Charging interest on a fiat currency is CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT if not outright CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY:

why would I accept any notion of being part of that criminality?

As far as forgiving the criminals who have perpetuated this madness for so long, there is also no need to do that, for within God's perfect Will, EveryThing is happening according to Our Highest Interest, including this money system helping people wake up and step up. And for that, I THANK all this bullshit, because ultimately it will help us have a more enlightened experience here on Earth as the Human race and as Human individuals.

Perhaps not as soon as some of us would prefer, but there are always people ahead of their time, is there not?

Money is backed by your hard work the world over, your potential earnings is what backs the fake money.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517582

The only way to reasonably support this statement is by the accurate observation that very few people do any real hard work.

Most jobs nowadays are administration jobs. That is not hard work.

Most jobs nowadays do nothing to directly produce anything of value, unless you value the paperwork and data entry that could easily be fully automated by now.

And considering that these types of productionless jobs ARE A DETRIMENT TO SOCIETY because they have taken a stranglehold on our economy mostly because of the repressed technology not providing new jobs that would actually produce things of use and value,

it makes total sense that we have a DEBT MONEY SYSTEM

as a reflection of all these 'hard work' jobs, right?

People want to sit on their ass all day and live like kings with everyone else serving them even as they only serve their own financial/material needs and desires when they work;

I am saying the debt currency is backed by your labour, and the birth certificate is proof of your shareholder status.

A share holder appoints CEO or directors, to tell the trustee what do do , in order for the share holder to get maximum profit.

Now if the funny money has no backing,because most countries are bankrupt,and we are operating in debt notes, who are the creditors?

The only value a GMINT has is what you unwillingly give them, by Gmint deception, that you are not the debtor.

My BC gives me shares in the corporation of NZ,it has a cu-sip number that matches the New York stock exchange, for my birth cert, and drivers licence, and any other bond able activity, IE passport.

So from dean s work it goes like this, and he uses Microsoft for an example.

Director/CEO Bill gates

Shareholders Trusteesequity input employees

Now if you are sole share holder to bill gates company, you appoint directors who will set policy for the trustees, to maximise profit to the shareholders.

So if I hold a sole share holders certificate as witnessed by my birth cert. I can nominate my choice of CEO /director.

And I can appoint myself to that position, who else will look after the share holder/creditor assests better than the anyone.

I can be SSholder, CEO and trustee

Let us see how this works for grubbyMint, GM thinks its the CEO, and you the employee/trustee, and is bossing you about with rules and regs that belong to the public servants, as well as using the BC to collect on your dividend, and steal your vote, you never knew you had.

GMINT appoints its self CEO, the trustees are public servents, I am a share holder to the NZ corporation, am neither a public servent nor in GMINT.

And yes I hunt and fish, i live off the grid so to speak, but refuse to be distracted, by the hoopla of GMINT DECEPTION

Sorry I do not understand what tptWERE is, google said Trailer park trash, which made me giggle, cos I do live in a caravan, which has a thick outer covering,of aluminum so forget the tin foil hat, I got that covered.

I understand full well what you are saying and striving to accomplish.

What I don't understand is why any sane Human Being would submit to the CORP bullshit.

Their money is DEBT, sure you can take control of it if you want to but why would you want to do that when it will only make you responsible for paying back the debt?

That's exactly what tptWERE want you to do, so they don't have to accept the responsibility for perpetuating a criminally corrupt system of finance and economics.

Why buy into a system that is designed to fail?

Maybe you are not sane?

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368376

The reason why is simple. Our ever increasing GOVT. debt is created, when we go to the bank for a mortgage, the banks rip us of in 4 ways

1, Application fraud2, fraud collateral3, Fraud Securitization4, Fraud keeping promissory note in circulation after debt is paid. This is the main reason for the national debt of all countries is raising because of our own failure to retrieve the original note on debt that has been paid.proof, check national debt, against consumer debt.

Also max keiser Report 175 @ 19 minutes and 57 seconds.

Money is debt, how can it be paid back, with more debt? or a promise to pay. debt money is a promise to pay, when real money becomes available.If a bank can not lend money(read bank act)who loans you a mortgage, you do. With your signature, it is the only value, so I can also pay with my signature.

I can't comment on tptWERE I am ignorant at present, but will look into it since you have introduced it.

You are right the System is rigged to fail, I do not support it , that is why I presented Dean Clifford video's for anyone else who wants to escape the system.

If Canada is a Corporation and the Queen(her Majesty). has the ultimate say of who the prime minister is Via the governor general.That would mean that she owns at least 51% of the corporation.Only the majority Shareholder of any corporation would have such power. Though this may not be publically admitted I suspect that this is the case. The monarchy would never seemingly relinquish power to soverigns unless they had a backup plan. World conquest is the oldest game there is. And the monetary system is the method that acheives it unawares