What does it take to bring Hillary Clinton to justice?

Virtually the whole planet holds its collective breath at the prospect of Hillary Clinton possibly becoming the next President of the United States (POTUS).

How’s that humanly possible, as the (daily) Bonfire of The Scandals – relentlessly fed by WikiLeaks revelations and now converging FBI investigations – can now be seen from interstellar space?

It’s possible because Hillary Clinton, slouching through a paroxysm of manufactured hysteria, is supported by virtually the whole US establishment, a consensual neocon/neoliberalcon War Party/Wall Street/corporate media axis.

But History has a tendency to show us there’s always a straw that breaks the camel’s back.

Yet this reveals only part of the puzzle. There’s got to be a response to Podesta’s email – which WikiLeaks may, or may not, leak in the next few days before the election. If the back and forth clearly shows intent (to mislead), then we’ve got a 100% smoking gun: the whole Clinton (cash) machine narrative – according to which Hillary just deleted “personal” emails – crumbles like the ultimate House of Cards.

Moreover, that would unveil what was from the start the privileged Clinton machine strategy: to thwart the subsequent internal State Dept. and FBI investigations.

As far as the Clinton machine is concerned, an interlocking influence peddling pile up is the norm. John Podesta also happens to be the founder of the Center for American Progress – a George Soros operation and prime recruiting ground for Obama administration officials, including US Treasury operatives who decided which elite Too Big To Fail (TBTF) financial giants would be spared after the 2008 crisis. DCLeaks.com, for its part, has connected Soros Open Society foundations to global funding rackets directly leading to subversion of governments and outright regime change (obviously sparing Clinton Foundation donors.)

Exceptional bananas, anyone?

The perfectly timed slow drip of WikiLeaks revelations, for the Clinton machine, feels like a sophisticated form of Chinese torture. To alleviate the pain, the relentless standard spin has been to change the subject, blame the messenger, and attribute it all to “evil” Russian hacking when the real source for the leaks might have come straight from the https://www.rt.com/news/365164-assange-interview-wikileaks-russia/ belly of the (Washington) beast.

“Another mythical and imaginary problem is what I can only call the hysteria the USA has whipped up over supposed Russian meddling in the American presidential election. The United States has plenty of genuinely urgent problems, it would seem, from the colossal public debt to the increase in firearms violence and cases of arbitrary action by the police. You would think that the election debates would concentrate on these and other unresolved problems, but the elite has nothing with which to reassure society, it seems, and therefore attempt to distract public attention by pointing instead to supposed Russian hackers, spies, agents of influence and so forth.

I have to ask myself and ask you too: Does anyone seriously imagine that Russia can somehow influence the American people’s choice? America is not some kind of ‘banana republic’, after all, but is a great power. Do correct me if I am wrong.”

this WikiLeaks bombshell; Peter Kadzik, who’s now in charge of the Department of Justice (DOJ) probe into the 650,000 emails found on the laptop shared by Clinton’s right-hand woman Huma Abedin and her estranged, pervert husband Anthony Wiener, is a Clinton asset.

The Clinton machine, starring a self-described virtuous Madonna, is actually a pretty nasty business. Huma and her family’s close connections to Saudi Arabia – and the Muslim Brotherhood – are legendary (that includes his brother Hassan, who works for Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi). Podesta, by the way, is a handsomely remunerated lobbyist for Saudi Arabia in Washington; that’s part of the Clinton Foundation connection.

Yet now, with Huma in the spotlight – still maintaining she didn’t know all those emails were in her and Wiener’s laptop – it’s no wonder Hillary has instantly downgraded her, publicly, to “one of my aides”. She used to be Hillary’s ersatz http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/huma-abedin-hillary-clinton-adviser “daughter”; now she’s being framed as The Fall Princess.

And that brings us to the intersection of those three FBI investigations; on Hillary’s Subterranean Email Server (in theory closed by FBI’s Comey last summer); on the Clinton Foundation; and on Wiener’s sexting of minors. The FBI has been investigating the Clinton Foundation for over a year now. Let’s try to cut a long story short.

Follow the evidence

Last July, the DOJ – under Clinton/Obama asset Loretta Lynch – decided not to prosecute anyone on Emailgate. And yet FBI director Comey – who nonetheless stressed Hillary’s “extreme carelessness” – turbo-charged his no-denial mode on another investigation, as in the FBI “sought to refocus the Clinton Foundation probe.”

Soon we had Clinton Foundation FBI investigators trying to get access to all the emails turned over in the Emailgate investigation. The East District of New York refused it. Very important point; up to 2015, guess who was the US attorney at the East District; Clinton/Obama asset Lynch.

Enter an extra layer of legalese. Less than two months ago, the Clinton Foundation FBI investigators discovered they could not have access to any Emailgate material that was connected to immunity agreements.

But then, roughly a month ago, another FBI team captured the by now famous laptop shared by Huma and Wiener – using a warrant allowing only a probe on Weiner’s sexting of a 15-year-old girl. Subsequently they found Huma Abedin emails at all her accounts – from Humaabedin@yahoo.com to the crucial huma@clintonemail.com. This meant not only that Huma was forwarding State Dept. emails to her private accounts, but also that Hillary was sending emails from the “secret” clintonemail.com to Huma at yahoo.com.

No one knew for sure, but some of these emails might be duplicates of those the Clinton Foundation FBI investigators could not access because of the pesky immunity agreements.

What’s established by now is that the metadata in the Huma/Wiener laptop was duly examined. Now picture both teams of FBI investigators – Clinton Foundation and pervert Wiener – comparing notes. And then they decide Huma’s emails are “relevant”.

The other key question now is whether the DOJ – via Kadzik? – will once again thwart another investigation, this time on the Clinton Foundation. Senior, serious FBI agents won’t take that – massive euphemism – kindly. The FBI has been on the Clinton Foundation for over a year. Now, arguably, they are loaded with evidence – and they won’t quit. Winning the presidency now seems to be the least of Hillary Clinton’s Bonfire of Scandals’ problems.

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Whether the information originated from hacked e-mails and computer files or Freedom of Information Act requests, the revelations about the political and business activities of Hillary and Bill Clinton and their cronies hearken back to another era, the Great Depression of the 1930s and the crime spree of another unscrupulous couple: bank robbery desperados Bonnie and Clyde.

Aside from Hillary Clinton running her own lucrative «off-the-books» foreign policy via her private email servers and e-mail chain of associates and flunkies, it was her and her husband’s joint Clinton Foundation and Teneo Capital operations that scream out the word «corruption.» The servers were merely a mechanism by which the Clintons ran their own «pay-to-play» racketeering operation, something that would have been the envy of a contemporary of Bonnie and Clyde, Chicago crime boss Al Capone.

Teneo, which runs a hedge fund operation and a «private intelligence» service jam-packed with former Central Intelligence Agency operatives, is where Mrs. Clinton’s «gal pal» and aide Huma Abedin worked simultaneously to her government employment with the State Department. The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s probe of 650,000 emails found on the laptop computer of disgraced former New York Democratic Representative Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of Abedin, is but the proverbial tip of the iceberg. While FBI agents pore through Abedin’s emails that were discovered on the laptop and looking Mrs. Clinton’s emails that were either not destroyed by her aides or which were never accounted for, the real story is the FBI’s investigation of the Clinton Foundation and Teneo.

Five FBI field offices are investigating the racketeering of the foundation and the foreign connections of Teneo. The offices include New York; Los Angeles; Washington, D.C.; Little Rock, Arkansas; and Miami. Little Rock is the home of the Clinton Foundation, while New York is the home base of Teneo. The addition of the Miami field office to the Clinton probe is significant. One of Teneo Intelligence’s many global offices is located in Bogota, Colombia. A secretive Colombian private equity fund, «Fondo Acceso», financed by Mexican mega-billionaire Carlos Slim and Canadian mining magnate Frank Giustra, is run out of the Clinton Foundation’s Bogota office. Tracking the money being fed into the Clinton Foundation may include proceeds from the illegal narcotics traffic in Colombia and other nearby countries. The Bogota activities of the Clinton Foundation, «Fondo Acceso», which ironically means «Access Fund», and Teneo appear to be concentrated in the Chico Business Park in the Colombian capital. Therefore, the involvement of the Miami office, in investigating Clinton Foundation funding, including the major donations from Slim and Giustra, makes a world of sense.

Teneo was co-founded by longtime Bill Clinton associate Doug Band, who served in Clinton’s White House Counsel’s Office and later as Clinton’s chief aide in the Clinton Foundation and its associated Clinton Global Initiative. Band’s brother is Bill Clinton’s medical doctor who accompanies the ex-president on foreign trips. Doug Band was the point person who lobbied the incoming Barack Obama administration in 2008 to appoint Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.

Mrs. Clinton’s tenure at State ensured that there was little separation between her department, the Clinton Foundation and Global Initiative, and Teneo. Abedin served as Mrs. Clinton’s «transition team» leader as the Secretary of State left the department to launch her presidential candidacy after the November 2012 election. From that time on, Mrs. Clinton, Abedin, Doug Band, Clinton’s campaign chief John Podesta, and others engaged in an email flurry to 1) ensure that the files in the private servers were either scrubbed or sanitized; 2) to officially sever all links between them and the Clinton Foundation and Teneo; and 3) to paint a picture for the public that all was well and legal with Mrs. Clinton’s term as America’s chief foreign policy executive. Unfortunately, the entire Clinton team has been exposed with the publication of emails from Mrs. Clinton’s swearing in as Secretary of State in 2009 to after she launched her campaign for the White House in 2013.

The picture painted by the emails is one of modern-day gangsters milking everything they possibly could out of supposed public service.

The FBI’s New York field office is also likely looking at Teneo’s dealings with other Clinton allies. It was Teneo that advised former New Jersey Democratic Governor Jon Corzine’s MF Global investment firm as it was collapsing amid charges of major fraud by Corzine, a Clinton loyalist. It is also known as Mrs. Clinton communicated with President Obama over her private server and that Obama used a pseudonym. Obama lied to the American people when he stated that he first learned of the existence of Mrs. Clinton’s server from news media reports. There is little wonder why Obama has refused to condemn FBI director James Comey for re-launching his probe of the Clinton emails, based on the discovery of the additional traffic on Weiner’s laptop. Presidents who dug themselves deep into scandals by lying about «what they knew and when they knew it» helped sink the administration of Richard Nixon and almost cost Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton their presidencies. Obama was wise not to interfere in the FBI’s many criminal cases now building up like a tidal wave against Mrs. Clinton.

The many Clinton scandals also involve the illegal shipment of U.S.- and foreign-manufactured weapons to jihadist rebels in Libya and Syria against U.S. law. When Clinton and Abedin oversaw the jihadist rebellions in both countries, the U.S. was subject to imposing a United Nations arms embargo directed against both civil war theaters. The sudden decision on October 5, 2016, by the Justice Department to drop all charges against the State Department-licensed Turi Defense Group of Arizona and its owner, Marc Turi, for violating U.S. law by shipping unregistered weapons to Libyan rebels, some of which were transferred to Syrian rebels by the CIA station in Benghazi, indicates that Attorney General Loretta Lynch wanted the Turi case to disappear before the November 8th election.

The federal trial of Turi and his company was due to begin on November 8th. The indictment of Turi was brought in the U.S. Court for the District of Arizona in Phoenix. Phoenix’s Sky Harbor International Airport was the scene of an impromptu and highly-questionable tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Lynch on June 27, 2016. Turi claims that approval for the secret weapons shipments to Libya and onward to Syria were personally approved by Mrs. Clinton and had a green light from the CIA. Any new email or other evidence that Mrs. Clinton authorized illegal weapons shipments to jihadist terrorists would have required the FBI to broaden its investigation of both Hillary and Bill Clinton, as well as Lynch. Mrs. Clinton may have violated federal law by permitting the shipment of weapons to belligerent parties in Libya and Syria; Mr. Clinton may have obstructed justice in talking to the Attorney General; and Lynch may have violated her oath of office in misusing her position as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice.

The Clinton scandal, in many ways, resembles the Iran-Contra episode more than it does Watergate. In Watergate, the cover-up by Nixon and his cronies, in many respects, was worse than the original crimes. In Iran-Contra, the arms and drugs smuggling crimes were equal to the cover-up, including the criminal role of then-Vice President George H. W. Bush in the entire affair. With the Clintons’ «E-mailgate», shipping U.S. weapons to terrorists and accepting foreign campaign donations from dodgy regimes in Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Qatar are every bit as bad as the obvious ensuing cover-up by Hillary Clinton and her and her husband’s cronies.

If these many cases are what the FBI and its offices in Washington, New York, Little Rock, Los Angeles, Miami, and possibly Phoenix, are now looking at, the FBI director had every right and a constitutional responsibility to inform Congress and the voting public. And FBI director Comey has every right not to tip off to the Clinton gang what he and the bureau may have on them, evidence demanded now by Mrs. Clinton and her supporters. This evidence may become material to the impeachment of Mrs. Clinton from the office of president of the United States should she be elected on November 8th.
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Love that photo. If only it would come to pass.And she would be joined by dozens if not hundreds of other US and stooge nations political criminals.The peoples of the West (and the peoples of non-Western stooge states) need a “Mussolini in 1945” moment.To purge our nations of the corruption and evil of decades of criminal rulers.

After the Nixon Watergate scandal, which avoided discussion of his war crimes and treasonous undermining of Vietnamese peace talks, and probable role in JFK’s assassination. And after the Iran Contra scandal which also involved illegal arms transfers, obstruction of justice, end running around supplying arms to terrorists, drug dealing, etc., it is refreshing that after Bill’s impeachment on relatively minor charges (do older guys having affairs with younger women occur, and they don’t want to talk about it?), to see some Democrats, who have always portrayed themselves as the good guys against the evil Nixons and Reagans and Bushes, being caught red handed in good oldfashioned money laundering, gun running, supplying arms to terrorists and cavorting with and accepting money from good old fashioned head chopping human rights violators, in true treasonous style.

As the saying goes, “The country is run by gangsters, and the ones who win are called ‘The Government’.

Seriously, if you had lived in the US since the early 90s you would have been all too familiar with Clinton Derangement Syndrome (CDS) whereby due to the incessant propaganda pushed out by the American MSM, normally intelligent people began to lose all sense of context/scope regarding Bill and Hillary Clinton and their relation/involvement w/ the plenitude of criminality of the US Empire.

Again, having lived through 2+ decades of this boring sh!te I thought that its effectiveness probably had run its course….oh how wrong I was!

Yep, thanks to sites like this and MoA I now see that CDS has a whole new international market whereby the entire planet can now be mindlessly bored to death with even more incessant/asinine calls to get that dastardly Clinton clan all the while – as has been going on since the 90s and way before – the true US PTB keep on murdering/stealing/killing, etc.

I am speaking very seriously now: this site, MoA and other sites have tremendously damaged their reputations as analytical resources b/c the authors and commentators have fallen prey to the exact same nonsense that the right-wingers fell prey to 20 years ago.

Hopefully, once this election Spectacle is finished you’ll be able to pull yourself out of the nosedive that has claimed the sanity of most if not all of the conservatives in the US.

@Ron Showalter
Well this seems a bit harsh. Maybe 20-20 hindsight?
I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and was glad that he won.
At that time we didn’t understand the concept of triangulation.
We didn’t care that much about Bill’s sexual peccadilloes because they seemed to be a side issue. If he governed well, who really cared?
We were coming off off 12 years of Reagan and Bush. I would say that that was the real “Hope for Change” moment. The sellouts of NAFTA and Glass-Steagall were still to come. I recall being furious about NAFTA and reading about the dangers of nullifying Glass-Steagall only in the sort of leftwing press of The Nation. And wondering how important this was.

Really, it is only through accessing blogs such as this one, and others, mainly since ca. 2014 and the Ukraine mess, that I have started to search out and attempt to understand more of the deep background on the Clintons. I did not vote for Hillarly in teh 2008 primaries, because of her Iraq vote. Gradually realizing the outlines and extent of the Obama betrayal also was part of the process. Of course one must be open to other points of view. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink . . .
What is the basis of the comment that this blog and Moon of Alabama have damaged their reputations? How so? Not sure what that is about.

Katherine
PS. I still prefer the older blog format, where one can see what one has written, etc.

Join the discussion:The problem is this was the brainchild of the conservative faction going clear back to the foundation of the country where they felt that only they should have the right to vote to decide how the country should be run and that of course has never changed only their rhetoric.!!!

Most, if not all of the commentaries by US civilians here and elsewhere are a very, very long way from understanding the basics of the situation in their home country, of which this election is a symptom.

Your comment teranam13, and many others here, is based on the understanding that by removing a bunch of establishment figures the public can restore the Republic to its proper basis. That is where you are wrong. You are no longer a republic but a military led empire. Once you accept that, everything else falls into place, and you have a clear idea of the road and choices ahead.

You have an undeclared ‘government within a government’ that outrages you? It shouldn’t. It is the necessary machinery and bureaucracy required to run your empire. Now decide if you want to be an empire. That is where your protest begins. Trumps choices are the same as Clintons, so long as you have an empire.

There will be no revolution and no coup no matter what people on youtube say, because the un-elected bosses of your Empire know full well, as you should, that without the tribute that pours into your country by dollar trade extortion and debt issuance at the point of your guns, your unproductive nation (no trade surlas) can not pay for the street lighting, let alone the hospitals and schools.

Given that knowledge, how much of the establishment do you want to blow apart?

This is the conundrum that the US finds itself in: it has lied to its people about its republic status, and hidden the nature of its empire from public consciousness. This is corrupt. The public’s outrage at the inklings it is getting of the inner working of this machinery is turning into an ugly anti-establishment threat to the very fabric that keeps the public alive (i.e it wants to take apart the machinery that makes the gold flow from the planet into the US).

The last thing to get your heads around is that the fractious campaign, vote rigging, dis-information and collusion that is so rife this election are not just the consequence of a dissatisfied electorate. Your empire is strategically over-reached and facing the direct challenge of a radical new alternative to empire (multilateral co-operation and currency baskets) from two nations it can not beat. You are in the throes of the last stages of an empire. Like Britain in 1914 and the German challenge to its weakening empire, your future is the last throw of the dice: a very big war. You will loose everything.

Now, if you want to go and vote and change anything, know thyself America. You are not a democratic republic.

Not meant to offend but challenge. I and am very fond of a number of Americans. I am making and shipping to the US regularly. Good people. But you genuinely misunderstand your predicament. Your election is not a domestic affair. Summary:

You are an empire, not a republic.

Your election choices are therefore not domestic but international.

If you do not sort out the problem of your elite cabal running, expanding and defending an exceedingly violent empire we – the rest of the planet – will do it for you.

In other words, if you don’t shut it down by domestic protest and election, you, your sons and daughters and grandchildren will be killed.

As extreme, evil and ugly as that sounds, your government has the executive power to suspend your ‘democracy’ and force your men and women into uniforms to go and defend your ‘national interests’. That’s the big war I’m talking about. At that point you, as a nation, will be fighting for an empire, and the world will be killing your innocent sons and daughters and bombing your cities because you have failed to sweep out your own yard.

Do I think you can do it? If anyone can, the Yanks can. But Trump vs Clinton is not even a start.

The key to the treasure trove of 650k emails filed under “insurance” (how appropriate) is that an NYPD Chief supposedly said, after viewing some of them, “as a father, they turned my stomach”. This statement obviously lends one to infer that there is pedophilia involved, perhaps even pics or videos, in addition to highly classified info. There are many internet conjectures on a Presidential pardon for the Clintons, whether she wins or loses. Even if Hillary can throw Huma and others under the bus, I just cannot see Obama pardoning a pedophile; it would ruin his legacy.

Surely, Guantanamo Bay, Libya, the debacle in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the restarting of the Cold War and the re-constitution of the Third Reich on Russia’s border, not to mention the internecine quarrels raging between the ‘scum’… I mean ‘elites’ of the US deep state, (both rise to the top) might make pedophilia look like no more than a pleasant diversion to Obama.
A state which has not arrested a harpy who admitted that murdering five hundred thousand Iraqi children was “worth it”, not only does not have a Legacy, but has lost all reason to exist.

Join the discussion There is link was on zerohedge to the blog with the full text of the NYPD disclosure…the Lolita Express (Epstein sex-slave mansion in Puerto Rico) with Bill goin 23 times (Trump too) paragraph had the NYPD Commander “sick to his stomach”. Recall Epstein served 13 months for running the underage girls sex -slaves/crew and got reduced time served. There is MUCH in there which if proven true will me earthshaking.

One of the worst and most vile of the US’s foreign toadies (Anders Fogh Rasmussen) has given an interview to Britain’s “Sky News” (reported on by RT). In it he “out US’s,the US”, in calling for the US to dominate the World. He name’s it the “need” for the US to “police the World” to “enforce international law” (yes I needed a barf bag for that one). I think he is setting the “agenda” for if Clinton and her neo-cons seize power in the elections on November 8th. He sounds off in the interview all the points her regime will be making to justify their Worldwide aggression:

Anders Fogh Rasmussen (Dansk) should be dragged before the courts and trialed for warmongering during his time as Hauptmann of this North Atlantic Terror Organisation.
Now he has taking up an advisory occupation for the UkriNazi government to inform them how to murder and kill their own people (South East Ukraine) in the best way possible, by Nazi hordes.
This person belongs in jail for many years and the current Hauptmann of this boys-soldierclub Jens Stollenberg (Norsk) even so.

Mr. Assad of Syria has said it a couple of months ago: the Scandinavian Ones? They are the worse.
And he is right. Maybe they are trying to “play” the Viking again?

The US State Department has been forced to release some of Clinton’s emails. The Chinese needs to read those carefully. I’d “love” to be a fly on the wall in Xi’s office when he see’s them:

“Two emails sent to Abedin for printing in August 2009 show the role played by Costa Rican president Oscar Arias in the US-backed regime change operation in Honduras.”

“Another email from Sidney Blumenthal features strategies and predictions on China. “China is not inherently a stable nation but is riven by profound ethnic/language/regional divisions as well as yawning economic and social inequalities growing greater by the day with a vast majority of billions not sharing the benefits of its brand of turbo-charged, despotic authoritarian Communist/capitalism,” Sid Blumenthal wrote to Clinton in November 2009, while forwarding two New York Times columns from “center-left” Paul Krugman and “center-right” Niall Ferguson.”

“China is our captive. If it doesn’t hold the debt its currency wobbles,” Blumenthal added, concluding that the possibility of China imploding would be “advantageous to consider in designing policy.”

With all the US election media hype going on and the hysterical anti Trump hate feeding frenzy. And the totally schizophrenic divide caused by news media hosts, pundits, announcers, and political experts, famous movie star celebrities, feminists, and leftist political activists alike, wall street tycoons and the entrenched political establishment, all coming out in full support of Hillary Clinton for the next US President, I’ve waded into this insane debate with the following comments, which I’ve been disseminating for several weeks now on various ‘alternative’ internet media blogs comment sections, being as how the outcome will deeply affect us all personally around the world no matter what country we happen to be from or live in.

Re: The US Presidential Elections , What is at stake and ’What is to be done’?

Reality dictates …abstaining or voting for anyone other than Donald Trump is in effect a de facto vote for Hillary Clinton.

As President of the United States and military Commander in Chief, she has declared her intentions of imposing a (Libyan style) “NO FLY” zone over Syria in support of her proxy terrorist there, to “OBLITERATE” “Iran” and “Russia”, confront China and continue to expand the globalization of the American economy and the rest of the world.

Thus the American electorate, either by default or by their own actions will have given Hillary a ‘democratically’ sanctioned mandate to do her will and thereby have become complicit in their own economic destruction, systemic political corruption, international war crimes and potentially the starting of world war three, possibly resulting in a planetary thermonuclear holocaust.

Striped of all other frivolous distractions, relatively insignificant and irrelevant none issue nonsense, the critically crucial choice that the American public are faced with making today on behalf of the entire world, is that simple. And one that will for all of eternity weigh on the collective souls of all mankind’s conscience.

So for the sake of the justice, peace and the survival of all humanity, criminally indictable and certifiably clinically insane warmonger Hillary Clinton must be stopped and voted OUT on Nov.8 2016

Whether or not you personally happen to like Trump is a totally irreverent matter under the given circumstances. And I challenge anyone here to offer up any other viable options and a realistic alternative, other than to vote Trump IN. Before it’s to late, and a totally corrupted Hillary Clinton dynasty destroys us all in her pathologically driven maniacal quest for more money and the attainment of absolute power and control.

As POTUS Hillary will hold the entire world at ransom with her trigger happy finger on the ‘ US doctrinal first strike policy’ red nuclear launch box button.

Hence, the issue here is as serious as it gets and the electoral decision to be made by Americans in the coming days is not only one of the most important of this century, but potentially one made in the
entire history of world affairs.

Gotta say, I performed the same calculus, came up with the same bottom line, and voted accordingly. Trump is the only Republican I have ever voted for in my 70 years, and it was not for him personally but to forestall the impending catastrophes you described. Slick Willy, Obomber and Killary have fooled us long enough. If the ballot box does not stop her, may the necessary congressional investigations do so while the world can still be saved.

Well stated “I performed the same calculus, came up with the same bottom line, and voted accordingly.” might use it myself if you don’t mind. Well maybe it takes the wisdom of an old “whistling Shrimp” (same age as me), to understand what’s imperative and that there’s no more time to F around and make big mistakes. Mind you I harbor no illusions that if Trump wins and sticks to his guns, we may soon be witnessing another JFK event. If Hillary wins and becomes the next dictator, expect martial law and the congress to be muzzled.

“The man lauded as a “whistleblower” for claiming that the Russian Track Federation was taking bribes from athletes is now, in a supreme twist of irony, under US federal investigation for bribery himself.

Andrey Baranov, 50, previously the agent for marathon runner Liliya Shobukhova, made global headlines when he alleged that she had paid the Russian Track Federation over $600,000 to avoid a doping suspension.

“The investigators are looking into whether Mr. Baranov conspired with American marathon organizers — including New York City Marathon officials — to allow athletes using banned substances to compete in their events,” the Times reported.

Despite that he was praised by the media as a whistleblower, the former head coach of Russia’s distance runners, Alexei Melnikov, told the Times that Baranov should not be overlooked, and that his “disgusting reputation in the world of athletics is well known.”

“Top FBI and Department of Justice officials ordered lower-level federal investigators to back off looking further into alleged pay-to-play schemes at the Clinton Foundation based on a secret recording, a new report finds.”

“I have to ask myself and ask you too: Does anyone seriously imagine that Russia can somehow influence the American people’s choice? America is not some kind of ‘banana republic’, after all, but is a great power. Do correct me if I am wrong.”

Unfortunately, the answer here must be “yes”; Israel has been running circles around the U.S. for decades. Remember Netanyahu’s comment that America is “easily moved”? Yes, I know Russia doesn’t have a gigantic lobby similar to AIPAC. Still, I think Putin asks an amusing question given Israel’s record.

My take on it is, I rate the overall authenticity at 60%. Considering the subject matter discussed, we should take this very seriously.

Identity of OP: The persons words and mindset reflects the position which they hold. This is usually the first giveaway of a fraud and I don’t see that. I would say it is doubtful the person is in FBI in the area they claim as it is a small enough community for that person to be easily identifiedidentified from statements and writing style.

You should note that the OP mixes in intentionally questionable answers which would damage the credibilty/believability of answers. I think that is nice touch as is also not acting like an all knowing savior and leaving it on readers to dig for their own confirmations.

Intent: I speculate this a career person who takes what they do very seriously. I wouldn’t exactly say they are a boyscout for posting as they have seen and likey done much. I think this is a person under the very real threat of death and sometimes maybe they want to leave a footprint outside their circle for the good they have felt they have done and provide a warning that maybe they think we deserve. When asked about threat of death the person just flatly said “yes”. Did not expand on that or carry on about it. A pro that knows the stakes of the game. Another clue is that a question was asked along the lines of can we stay safe hunkered down somewhere and where? The OP replied yes but, said it is more interesting in the game. Very much consistent with a person doing what they claim to do.

Options OP listed:
A – I would call deathmatch option. Put it all out there uncontrolled, gov possible collapse into civil war, foreign nations declare war, a lot of death and hardship.

Option B – managed takedown of a few players to maintain reasonable control of gov and avoid war. Basically punish enough people to show job has been done, satisfy people and send message.

Option C- Do nothing, let gov cover it up and let it go away eventually. Pretty much give in to the corruption.

I find the self justification for Option B interesting. You could take this part as misinfo/pysop or the mentality of those,who think they are doing the right thing for,the country. The OP justifies not going all in by stating they are protecting the country they are sworn to defend by avoiding the complete catastrophe the full truth and consequences it would bring. It is true that I think many sworn to serve feel this way and that is what makes this argument so effective. Also, the timid reader doesn’t really want to see full blown war/civil war and it does not take too much to convince them this is the proper path.

My issue with this is my oath was a bit different. God, Country, Corps – in that exact order. Without God/truth there can be no stabilty and the choice for truth gets taken away from America with option B. The American people put these people in power and with our ignorant support have done heinous crimes upon humanity. It should not be the choice of a few to shield Americans from this fact. I would state that effort will be in vain anyway as we all have what is coming to us, deserve or not.

Analysts/wargamers are truly sophisticated now and factor variables to a degree never before seen. But not all variables and sometimes I think they are too close to the game and miss minor human elements/events that can literally change world history. I woule bet a few are smirking at that right now because human behavior had been studied all the way both micro and macro.

Something else that struck me as possible pysop for option B is that FBI has leaked to msm that 99% chance foreign agencies hacked HRC computer. So if that is the case, only the American people would be the ones being kept in the dark about the full extent of the info. Which means our entire government is subject to blackmail and contril by foreign powers. They could argue that the gov will negotiate behind the scenes to keep us out of wars or whatever but, really this is just an extension of promises by a gov which has exactly earned our mistrust.

I also found what little the OP said about Putin effectively chilling.

In conclusion, I think this is 50/50 a high level pysop. Enough of the truth within it to lend much credibilty but, much of that truth was unavoidably leaked and justification for the rest of it being intentionally covered up and not see the light of day for “our own good” is an agenda that does not put God/Truth/Accountability first.

Americans smell blood in the water and as I have said before, few people go after it like we do when we smell it. This is a nation born from Revolution and Civil War. Truth justice and the American way are words that cannot be spoken anymore if we turn our backs on this and go option B.

Active Pat, I read all of that 3 part thread by the person representing themselves as FBI top 20% with over-view (international) including specialization on Russia war scenarios.

I even printed it out for a friend who knows a lot, but is “sickened by politics”. Tough guy. Macho, big Ego. And I’m thinking, when seeing him several days ago: “Suck it up, Buttercup!!!! You don’t get it yet!! Get in there and wrestle with what’s really going on, because the hour is MUCH later than you are willing to come to grips with, so far.”

No, I haven’t seen that much of this kind of stuff here, and though I have keen interest, I can’t even keep up with all of what this Vineyard site has to offer, so I was totally unfamiliar with 4Chan or whatever it is. Nor with a lot of their lingo. Especially the acronyms: SAP? Huh? All I could find out on internet in a reasonable amount of time was Socially Awkward Penguins.

“Hmmmm. Am I one of those odd birds?”, I thought.

The FBI guys sounds real and the thread was fascinating, except I thought the sex part (his personal) was stupid and felt sorry for all these guys like him worried about their J.O.B. (just over broke). And having that stand in the way of blasting this stuff wide open, like yesterday. But he’s enjoying the game of it, including the fear that comes with it. I guess you’re not going to get bored with that scary life, at least……

I agree with Anonymous, below. FBI? Vacuum cleaners for information, Hoover sucks!! Clyde Tollson.
Or was it the other way around?

Still, I find it quite possible that some human beings land in places like that and some are patriots.

Similarly, with the Marine Corps. But I think you may be an exception, mind and soul apparently very intact, despite possibly a few somewhat crushing environments/experiences, etc. that come with such territories. Many seem both traumatized and overly myopic, from the standpoint of their specialization and its experiences, and not too fresh and open about very different points of view that are available on this planet, if one had a lot of time and freedom to get around more.

Your observations on the American psyche and the generational differences, in another thread, I also found insightful. It is getting rarer but a positive American characteristic was the belief, that for better or for worse, we matter in the world. Some here would argue it’s always been for the worse from Day One (the Mayflower……or Colombus!) but that’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater, IMHO. Russians also matter, and they know it. We are more like each other than other nations around this world are like either of us, in that respect, at least.

But man, have we gone to Hell in the last few decades, especially!

The blind side is the occult crap (some referenced in the Moveable Feast Cafe here today) of this individual. Specialists of any sort tend toward left brain imbalance, and it is totally believable to me that he is a babe in the woods in that area.

He, we, can beat these guys. They hate themselves and everyone else as well. They are crap. But if he does not get into the spiritual side, I fear he’s a bit overmatched, as an atheist. Because he’s staying clear of that higher arena. And that’s what left brain imbalance does: It either makes you one of the psychopaths, or someone who is not up to handling the whole range of warfare they will throw at you.

Thank you for your insights.
I think understanding the minsets of all players is they key to everything. To simplify (let’s keep it simple) the evil side we have to understand their motivation is not just about greed. They have a moral corruption within them which must be fed. It is not an accident that code words in their pedo word center around food so much. No one really has put out that connection of dots which is part of the key to understanding them. With this simple understanding of them, you know enough to know they will never stop.

The Good side is much more complcated then the Evil. There is an analogy credited to Lincoln on the the Wolves and the Sheep. The 3rd party in this is The Shepard. In modern times this has been hijacked to Sheepdog instead. Operators are more like Sheepdog than Shephard and Sheepdogs are more like a Wolf than sheep. This is important in conditioning in the fact that the longer you are in the game you become more like the wolves you are fighting than the sheep (where you came from) and are defending. It can even get to a point where you have great disdain for the weak, ignorant, fxxking sheep you put your life on the line for when the walk around like such spoiled ignorant idiots oblivious to the full world around them. If you meet one of them, you can see it in their eyes when they have gotten to that point.

With that, you can understand their mindset on only being so willing to put themselves out their to die in an anonymous high stakes game where consequences of mistakes could destroy or take their lives. Many have seen people die and did not witness a happy little ghost float up to heaven afterwards. I say this because everything comes down to truly understanding the people in all of this we are in.

Thank you for reminding me about what I had mentioned about the American psyche. I am sure they have wargamed what and how much it would take for a civil war to start here. I would think we are getting close to that threshold. Also, I think maybe the 4chan OP was daring us to get there but, I don’t think we are at that point. As a wth, let me take a stab at analysis I will say what would if they ran that option. HRC get elected, FBI/DOJ knowingly go too short on prosecuting to satisfy everyone who smells blood in the water and want to “drain the swamp”, then Russia or another foreign government fully exposes what our own government should have owned up to. That will lead to civil war and it looke like the pieces are being put im place for all of that. Would never have thought I would see it in my lifetime. Funny thing is, even if I where to know it all where to be true, I would still want it to happen. Too much blood of innocents on our hands that we must answer and be judged for. I will happily watch our whole way of life go away if the alternative is turning a blind eye to what is being done in their sick world.

About you observations on me. A while back I questioned what I would say/do/share in all this and am not unaware of potential consquences of that. I think you can see with so many everywhere that they are willing to stand up and be counted and everyone gets encouraged by that and it spreads everyday. Traumatic experiences form peoples minds and trauma is widely used in mind control. Fortunately my trauma was prior and outside control so that I had a chance to form my own controls.

In general, I think right now most of us are not up to task for what may be coming. But people grow and evolve and do what they have to do. Syrians are a shining example of that.

The cleanup has to be completely exogenous. Forget the FBI, DOJ or POTUS. They just gridlocked themselves in the process. And do not count on SCOTUS. At this stage, short of a decisive action, civil unrest and riots are pretty much in the pipes, no matter who wins the election.

The bought and paid for (by QR and KSA) establishment in US must look at the situation with the utmost pragmatism while they still have the control of some levers. Realpolitik.

It is becoming impossible to cover-up indefensible and most probably legally reprehensible past and present actions. Russia (President Putin, Secretary Lavrov) has shown extreme restrain in describing the situation and never failed to indicate its willingness to HELP. It is in nobody’s interest to continue on a path leading to anarchy, chaos or war.
If President Putin had the thin skin of Donald J Trump, we would already be reporting on WWIII.

A very simple action plan could be drafted in a matter of days, all the seeds are there.

1) US, with the help of UN agencies and a bunch of NGOs can “re-discover” the true nature of some regimes and use mainstream media to broadcast it 24/7. As we have seen, once the partition is written, there are plenty of musicians ready to play.

2) UN can “re-discover” blatant and overwhelming evidence that Nations (QR/KSA) have contributed to financing terrorism as opposed to wealthy individuals. Resolution can be voted at the UNSC asking for immediate compliance and accountability from these countries. This is a simple find/replace (WMD, Iraq, Hans Blix, …) operation in the Iraq war plans.

3) As immediate compliance will not be met, extreme UN backed pressure (military if needed and associating Russia) could be exerted against these state actors to deter them from playing the blackmail cards (they have a huge collection of these). Some US elite will anyway get exposed and brought to justice in US: Collateral damage is inevitable.

4) Strike a deal with Assange. Yes, it is time that we reward him with something more than praises for his courage and attitude. He deserves freedom and he -better than anyone- understands that it will come with some strings, namely put a lid on leaks, selectively.

5) Once these state actors will be brought under control, ISIS & Co. will quickly fall apart.

Leaders have to take the best decisions for their respective countries. Not for other countries or entities. The intersection of countries interest is the playground of diplomats, where agreements and compromises will ultimately lead to a narrative that will be broadcasted by the media. This narrative will become the diplomatic truth. And, few years later, History.

“In a 2014 email made public by Assange’s WikiLeaks last month, Hillary Clinton, who had served as secretary of state until the year before, urges John Podesta, then an advisor to Barack Obama, to “bring pressure” on Qatar and Saudi Arabia, “which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL [Islamic State, IS, ISIS] and other radical Sunni groups.”

“I think this is the most significant email in the whole collection,” Assange, whose whistleblowing site released three tranches of Clinton-related emails over the past year, told Pilger in an exclusive interview, courtesy of Dartmouth Films.

“All serious analysts know, and even the US government has agreed, that some Saudi figures have been supporting ISIS and funding ISIS, but the dodge has always been that it is some “rogue” princes using their oil money to do whatever they like, but actually the government disapproves. But that email says that it is the government of Saudi Arabia, and the government of Qatar that have been funding ISIS.”

“During the four years that Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, hundreds of millions of dollars flowed into the Clinton Foundation from governments around the world, many of which then enjoyed favored treatment from the US State Department, Ortel noted.

“This is such a big story that the US press is not doing its job. What we have in ‘Clinton Incorporated,’ is Tammany Hall on steroids,” he said.”

“US intelligence alerted joint terrorism task forces that al-Qaeda terrorist group may be planning attacks in the United States on November 7, a day before the presidential election, according to CBS citing sources.”

There will be no justice. The US is run by descendents of the Bolsheviks. There will be war in order to save the Oded Yinon plan. The destruction of Syria is key. If Clinton wins, she will start the war. If she does not win, the election will be deemed to have been rigged by Russia. That will be treated as an act of war.

“Adedin has worked alongside Hillary Clinton since 1996 when she was assigned to the First Lady’s office as an intern. She had been expected to make a shortlist for White House chief of staff if Hillary wins the presidential election next week.

Adedin was born in the US in 1976, but later moved to Saudi Arabia with her family. Her father, Syed Zainul Abedin, headed the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs (IMMA), founded Abdullah Omar Naseef, suspected of financing al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. Her mother currently serves as IMMA’s director.”

There is no way the american regime would not know about abedin’s al qaida ties, so she must play a go between role between u.s. regime officials and those closely tied to these terrorists.

my understanding is that her parents are part of the Saudi ‘elite’ – she was probably born in the USA so that she would have a USA passport and birth certificate…

Her parents are big funders of Muslim Brotherhood, which is Wahhabi sympathetic – as this keeps the Saudi population under control. Think if all the women in Saudi Arabia could be free to say what they think.

One day all the truth will triumph. Now the stupid people who thought that deception and lying would win the day are like flies in a shoebox. Hahahahahaha And they wicked ways are failing, because if you put Truth in an arena with Deception – its obvious Who would win

Today (Friday) – FBI statement/action is big news if either is an announcement or none. If none, has FBI caved? I can’t imagine silence today but, what could would Comey say at this point.

Saturday – Remember, remember! The fifth of November, The Gunpowder treason and plot. Will Anon take actions this day? How could the organization not? What is the extent of power projection? Hackers in mom’s basements or something more?

Monday – “US intelligence source” warns of Al Qaeda attack possible NY, Texas or Virginia. Not official release so pure 100% propaganda. Intent to suppress vote in key states? For the benefit of which candidate? Research poll should Trump supporters much more likely to still vote under threat of terrorism than Hillary supporters. I would say these “credible threat” warnings we have been numbed to so not that effective without it being carried through.

TUESDAY – the big show! I will be out there, wouldn’t miss the big show by early voting. I would not be surprised by anything on this day.

For all those here that are thinking of abstaining or voting for Stein. Consider this fact, that either Trump or Hillary will win in any case. So the question is.. whom of the two candidates will do the most irreversible damage for the next four years? Trump who seeks peace or Hillary who has promised us war against Syria, Iran, Russia and possibly china potentially ending with a world war three scenario and a thermonuclear nuclear exchange. Hence abstaining or a vote cast for anyone but Trump is in effect a vote that goes to Hillary. In a rigged two party system there’s no neutral ground here or a third party option period. Thus by de facto it’s only a choice between the status quo or taking a chance on a wildcard renegade that the entire political establishment fears and hates. It’s the only choice left here to be made.

yeah, and Stein’s just been caught red-handed with Big Oil investments…as Cynthia McKinney has been saying all along. It was only this year that Stein finally agreed to support the boycott of Israeli goods abroad. Check out Cynthia McKinney FB – she posts news everyday.

While I am Undecided, Scott Newbury has the same ideas with you:
Scott Newbury
“Come on, America…you are being *forced* by corporate warmonger media to swallow a poison pill. Doesn’t matter if its a blue Hillary pill or a red Trump pill, they’ll both kill you dead without a second thought. As I read this article’s masturbatory ode to all things Clinton, I almost lost my breakfast…but, then again, the same thing happened when I read the last Trump piece. Wake up, fools…you *do* have a third choice, one that the Establishment is desperate to conceal from your sight. Jill Stein may not be perfect, but one thing is clear: she is not corrupt. Yet…” Quote
Source:http://www.salon.com/2016/11/05/hillary-clinton-do-not-even-think-of-dumping-huma-abedin/

Interesting dialogue Had not seen this before, not exactly current. No idea if legit or not, but an interesting read. Media is steadfast in its complete refusal to look into the Clinton Foundation, instead covering the Podesta mails. That alone leads me to believe this has some truth in it.http://pastebin.com/hgW5q5Kx

I could off course have made one with the more “drastic” Guillotine, but since my time was short, and as the Americans do not really have any tradition for using this device I’ll leave it with the results only.

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