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Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

Please dont be like :sy: not another Tobi thread.
ok so plz read before going crazy with stupid responces.
well ive been thinking about it for awhile now and came up with 3 Tobi theorys that that could make him Izuna or a creation from Madaras rinnegan so please read...

Theory No.1
when there was no villages and only clans the Uchiha and Sanju where the strongest and both got over all the fighting so they dicided to make peace with each other BUT i think as a extra barganing chip Tobirama came up with the Edo jutsu and told Madara he could bring his brother back from the dead and Madara agreed but once Izuna was brought back Madara learnt he wasnt his brother but a puppet so he tried to bring war to the new Leaf Village but no1 from the Uchiha would listen so he left the village for revenge. And then when the 2nd Hokage died(Tobirama) Izuna's Tags came loose so he looked to get revenge..which is where he would know all about the Madara Vs Hashirama fight and Stuff and being so OLD looking when konan destroys half his mask

Theory No.2
When the fights would happen between the Sanju and Uchiha, Tobirama at the time would use Edo's to help fight against the Uchiha's and with Madara having EMS he could read the hand signs and learnt the ritural to bring someone back to life..so he tried it and brought back Izuna to take over his bidding for the Moon Eye Plan once he past away.

Theory No.3
Once Madara gained the rinnegan he learnt the Jutsu to creat Illution into reallity(SO6P version NOT izangi) he tried using this to creat a copy of himself and thats how Tobi was made BUT then he experimented on Tobi with Hashirama's Cells which could be why he looses arms then later on they are back because hes a Black and White Zetsu inspired Creation that doesnt die from normal means like loosing an arm or arms(since hes lost his left and right in more then 1 fight but not at the 1 time) which could be why Tobi says his a shell of his former self because Madara wasnt able to match SO6P in creation of things.
Anyway thats all i have to blab about so what you all think? :shrug:
But then again we'll have to wait until Kishi decides to show it in the manga on who Tobi really is..

Re: Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

LIKE THEORY 1 , still reading ^.^
finished :D defiantly one of the better tobi threads i've seen in a while i like the bits about the edo tensei because i've always wondered why tobirama needed it
only one hole , if tobi is an edo then why does he seem old ? hmmm maybe because it was tobirama's weaker version then oro's and kabuto's ?
but then again an edo tobi could explain the large chakra reserves and the rejuvenation of the limbs and also his fearlessness to take on the whole world because they wont be expecting to seal him , hmm also but why would he use izangi ? maybe again this has something to do with an imperfected edo tensei, idk maybe blown into peices is too much for this version of edo tensei to handle ? idk but nice theory got me thinking rep+

Re: Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

Originally Posted by LssJBroly

LIKE THEORY 1 , still reading ^.^
finished :D defiantly one of the better tobi threads i've seen in a while i like the bits about the edo tensei because i've always wondered why tobirama needed it
only one hole , if tobi is an edo then why does he seem old ? hmmm maybe because it was tobirama's weaker version then oro's and kabuto's ?

TY
maybe Tobirama was still learning the jutsu so couldnt experiment on it more to get a perfect Edo like Kabuto's whos Edo's > Oro's Edo's who's Edo's > Tobirama's Edo's

AT TIMES WHAT THE EYESWITNESS, WHAT THE EARS HEAR,THE MIND CANNOT CONTAIN!

Re: Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

Originally Posted by Kurama The Kitsune Demon

Please dont be like :sy: not another Tobi thread.
ok so plz read before going crazy with stupid responces.
well ive been thinking about it for awhile now and came up with 3 Tobi theorys that that could make him Izuna or a creation from Madaras rinnegan so please read...

Theory No.1
when there was no villages and only clans the Uchiha and Sanju where the strongest and both got over all the fighting so they dicided to make peace with each other BUT i think as a extra barganing chip Tobirama came up with the Edo jutsu and told Madara he could bring his brother back from the dead and Madara agreed but once Izuna was brought back Madara learnt he wasnt his brother but a puppet so he tried to bring war to the new Leaf Village but no1 from the Uchiha would listen so he left the village for revenge. And then when the 2nd Hokage died(Tobirama) Izuna's Tags came loose so he looked to get revenge..which is where he would know all about the Madara Vs Hashirama fight and Stuff and being so OLD looking when konan destroys half his mask

Theory No.2
When the fights would happen between the Sanju and Uchiha, Tobirama at the time would use Edo's to help fight against the Uchiha's and with Madara having EMS he could read the hand signs and learnt the ritural to bring someone back to life..so he tried it and brought back Izuna to take over his bidding for the Moon Eye Plan once he past away.

Theory No.3
Once Madara gained the rinnegan he learnt the Jutsu to creat Illution into reallity(SO6P version NOT izangi) he tried using this to creat a copy of himself and thats how Tobi was made BUT then he experimented on Tobi with Hashirama's Cells which could be why he looses arms then later on they are back because hes a Black and White Zetsu inspired Creation that doesnt die from normal means like loosing an arm or arms(since hes lost his left and right in more then 1 fight but not at the 1 time) which could be why Tobi says his a shell of his former self because Madara wasnt able to match SO6P in creation of things.
Anyway thats all i have to blab about so what you all think? :shrug:
But then again we'll have to wait until Kishi decides to show it in the manga on who Tobi really is..

I like theory 3. Because it makes the most sense. Theory 1 and 2 not so much, because if tobi was an edo tensie, he would not need to use izanagi to survive konan's blast. hope i didn't sound rude.

Re: Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

I like theory 3. Because it makes the most sense. Theory 1 and 2 not so much, because if tobi was an edo tensie, he would not need to use izanagi to survive konan's blast. hope i didn't sound rude.

not rude at all lol i just had 3 theorys so i put hands to keyboard i wouldve gone into more depths but wanted to keep em short due to ppl not liking wall of text but maybe next time ill add more writing and maybe add some pages from the manga into my theory

Re: Tobi my 3 theorys on him..

Originally Posted by Kurama The Kitsune Demon

not rude at all lol i just had 3 theorys so i put hands to keyboard i wouldve gone into more depths but wanted to keep em short due to ppl not liking wall of text but maybe next time ill add more writing and maybe add some pages from the manga into my theory

I have a simpler theory that is a lot like yours, except for the Edo Tensei part or the SO6P super-Rinnegan.

Basically, I think that Madara obtained the Hashirama DNA, but was near death at the end of the fight. He attempted to combine the Hashirama cells with his body in an attempt to heal himself (use the Senju healing ability). However, he did not have enough chakra and died. Or maybe his first experiment did not work, and he could not control the Senju DNA.

But, this is not all... The Senju cells combined with the Uchiha cells created Zetsu, who immediately created a clone of the dying Madara. This clone is Tobi. Tobi may have immediately transplanted Madara's Rinnegan eyes, or he obtained them as a clone.

Zetsu and Tobi decided to continue Madara's plan, since they regarded him as their creator. Madara may have had enough strength to communicate with them (he could have just used the Sharingan to do this).