The people at my judo dojo have an invincible turtle. But nothing that a little studying and researching hasn't fixed.

Originally Posted by 3moose1

See, i train in superior Brazilian Jiu jitsu. We don't have those silly stand up rules.

Kidding.

Anyway, I much prefer mount, over back mount. I just have an easier time submitting, for some reason.

Try this:

Get rear mount, and flatten them out ASAP. The way i was taught, by my first coach, was to "superman" Ie, straighten your legs, and force your hips into their back. This should put them flat on their tummy.

From here, its easier to work the turn over. (in my experience) and can help get the choke.

Sometimes they already flatten. The hard part is getting your hooks in effectively. The guys at my dojo will roll you into a bizarre pin if you don't get your hooks in quick and attack fast.

Also, the fact that I've actually, you know. Fought. Oh and the people I've fought. And the people I train with.

Ever wonder why I don't post anything? I have enough word of mouth proof that I don't have to fucking give a **** about a tard like you and show you some shitty youtube video of me taking a sparring session seriously.