Obama: Bush ‘Kicking the Can Down the Road’ to Next President

Posted on Sep 9, 2008

AP photo / Alex Brandon

Barack Obama on Tuesday stepped up his criticism of the outgoing president and the Republican who hopes to succeed him, slamming President Bush for focusing too heavily on Iraq and missing the “central front in the war on terror”—Pakistan and Afghanistan. John McCain, Obama said, would follow Bush’s lead, to America’s detriment.

AFP via Google News:

“Senator McCain will continue the overwhelming focus on Iraq that has taken our eye off of the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11,” Obama said.

“It’s time to change our foreign policy,” he said.

“Because seven years after 9/11, we are still fighting a war without end in Iraq and we still haven’t taken out the terrorists responsible for 9/11. We heard no explanation for why (Al-Qaeda leader) Osama bin Laden is still at large, because that’s where George Bush and John McCain’s judgment has gotten us.”

Since the adoption of the Zionist war monger Biden and Obamba’s pressure to go into Pakistan, I don’t think it much matters who gets elected. The traditional function of the Dems has been to repress leftist dissent and this was done under Truman to initiate what was called McCarthyism, under Wilson in the Palmer raids, and under LBJ to assist Nixon. The mayor of St Paul that targeted journalists, Chris Coleman, was a DEM who praised the police.

I think you underestimate, Anarcissie, the effect of 9/11-anthrax. This was a false flag operation that could only have been implemente4d by homicidal megalomaniacs. The various violent and racist strains in US political life was pulled together at this time, with the complicic consent of Dem leaders. Leaders who murder three tousand of their own white professionals are qualitatively different from the usual American leader, however bloodsoaked.

Obama-Biden PRESSURED Bush to go into Pakistan. In Foreign Affairs pieces it is apparent that the American ruling class is pulling back some, and tis is shown by the US backing off Russia. I think attacking Pakistan is geo-strategic insanity that means that the US power system is totally irresponsible from even sane ruling class policy. And this is Obaden’s pet policy.

Folktruther: ’... Obama-Bidens war position is MUCH WORSE than that of Bush. ...’

I think they’re about the same, actually. I think even Bush and his immediate crew would admit in private that invading Iraq was a mistake. But for them the question is not how to undo the past but to deal with and, if possible, profit from the present.

I do think that a McCain victory will be a signal to the ruling class that they can raise the present level of warfare, imperialism and repression to new heights. McCain’s vice-presential candidate is a book-burning holy warrior, suggesting that anything now goes as long as it’s connected with right-wing religious fanaticism. But the fundamental theme of world domination will remain the same. I don’t know where Hobsbawm got the idea that started with 9/11.

Obama-Biden’s war position is MUCH WORSE than that of Bush. Expanding the war to Pakistan, where the population already hates the US murderous policies, is expanding the war to a nuclear state on the border of and sympathetic to China. The neolib Dems are continuing down the road to nuclear war begun by the Gop neocons.

The war in Afghanistan was never winnable, as the Soviets showed, and the reason for it, the oil pipeline, is long gone. EXPANDING it to a nuclear state with a possible conflict with China is even more politically insane than the Bushites.

The US power system has simply gone mad, deep into that power megalomania that has historically afflicted empires. The noted British historian Eric Hobsbawn has stated in his latest book:

“Frankly, I can’t make sense of what has happened in the US since 9/11 that enabled a group of political crazies to realize… long held plans for world supremacy. I believe it indicates a growing crisis within American society…”

Obama-Biden are part of that crisis, not part of the solution. Biden is a Zionist war monger who wants to dismember Iraq just as he was in favor of dismembering Yugoslavia. The US will stay in Iraq while expanding the war to Pakistan and possibly Iran, and implementing a New Cold War with Russia.

This is, as many commenters have indicated, geo-strategically insane. But the American population doesn’t know, and don’t care, about geo-strategy, not understanding that both parties are leading the US toward a thermonuclear war. The danger of which Hobsbawm emphasizes, along with many others.

It is necessary to oppose the war policies of BOTH PARTIES. There will be no money for domestic reforms if the military is increased in any event, and the debt crisis of the US will almost certainly deflate the US economy in the next decade anyway. The US ruling class, especially the Zionist ruling class, identifies with a military policy to divert attention from the economic crisis, and this course is fatal for the US and the world.

Both parties are leading the US into a thermonuclear war geo-strategically. This is the dominating fact about this election which the learned and mass media is concealing from the population.

Both sides kicking the can to the White House, may be for a reason. They will be the proud owners of a Bush car wreck and both may be starting to get reserved second thoughts about taking over an empty black hole?

There are two major reasons why some potential voters are trending towards McCain.
1. The monthly casualty rate in Iraq which hovered near 100 one year ago is now closer to 10. While this may not all be due to the surge it is a powerful weapon in the hands of McCain. Of course his victory mantra is terrible because the only people in his conflict that deserve victory are the Iraqis.
2. Oil and gas prices are dropping. While this does not mean that our economy is sound it takes some of the bite out of its the economy stupid of Obama. Of course McCain has no clue either.
There are of course additional reasons. While the choice of Gov. Palin has activated the Republican base, the safe choice of Biden (a gigantic blunder) has turned off many of the Democratic base.
The Obama campaign looks like a beached flounder thrashing desperately about to get back to the ocean.

To Frank——Yeah and KUCINICH[sp] said we were GONNA IMPEACH “Bullsh*t”...THAT WAS SAID “on the record” BUT NOTHING-NADA-ZIP WAS FOLLOWED UP…..Hopefully-“bullsh*t and bunch” will not be allowed to do much more…This POOR-TIRED-THIRD WORLD COUNTRY of AMERICA CANNOT PUT UP WITH MANY MORE RE-PUKE-LIKIN BLUNDERS…...

Paolo,
No president, not McCaon or Obama, and not Nader or Barr, can stave off the bankruptcy at this point. The question will be at whose expense?

And GAnderson: any government would have to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The difference is that Obama is suggesting that the government, having bailed them out and in effect having bought them, should keep them and operate them for the public good, as originally intended. McCain is proposing putting in government money and then giving them back to the bankers to plunder again!

The other issue, which neither is raising, is whether their current directors should go to jail!

Why would you want to end a war that’s making you rich? Think of all the billions made by Cheney’s old company. Think of all the billions made on the war by the military industrial complex.

Think of all the billions spent now for the bailouts, the buy outs, with more on the horizon like the Big three auto makers.

No wonder the debt went up about $250 billion in one year. Now it’s at $400 billion.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, the people are losing everything they’ve got.

Those that run this country have made a killing on Bush, no wonder they love him.

Their only worry now is that the Chinese won’t lend us more money. That’s the reason for the bail out of Fanny Mae and Freddie mack to keep the Chinese from getting nervous about lending us more money.

Who cares about all those little banks that will go bust now because they invested in a “safe” government backed company. Who cares about all those pension funds, and 401 k’s and, retriement accounts, who cares if they lose their investments?

Not McCain, not Palin, all they care about is keeping control for the Neo Cons, keeping the gravey train safe from the Dems.

Contact the Obama/Biden campaign and tell them that unless there is repeated, emphatic commitment on this issue you aren’t going to vote for them and you’re going to encourage others to refuse to vote for them also.

So the massive, bankrupting US empire of interventionism of John McCain is opposed by the massive, bankrupting US empire of Barack Obama. Folks, these guys are playing for the same team, and playing the rest of us for suckers.

McCain says focus on the illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional occupation of Iraq. Obama counters with ideas about staging illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional wars in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Neither has any inclination to put limits on US interventionism, whatsoever!

“Frank” brings up Biden’s statement about criminal charges. Having said this he and Obama urgently need to push it and rouse the country’s anger, rouse the people behind them! Because he just threw down the gauntlet and raised the stakes for Bush, Cheney & Co. Lose and you go to jail! He’s said it again and now they have to go all out to win ant any cost! But Biden and Obama aren’t acting as if they understand that this is “to the death” now!

If Obama wins the election, his administration will be investigating Bush and all his cronies for possible criminal charges. If they find sufficient evidence, they will prosecute. Biden said this on camera, on the record.

It’s hard to believe people don’t see what continued harm McCain and Palin will do to this country. I’m not saying Obama is my favorite but he’s much better than what the others are offering. There’s nothing worse than someone telling you how to live your life and sitting around doing what they’re preaching not to do, I am so sick of it. Get ‘um out of here.

PLEASE…..CAN WE-THE PEOPLE-MAKE “bullsh*t” PAY FOR HIS CRIMES AGAINST AMERICA and THE AMERICAN PEOPLE-AND HIS CRIMES AGAINST THE IRAQUIS-IRANIANS-PAKISTANIS-etc..etc..etc..HOW CAN WE HOLD HIM and his friends RESPONSIBLE?????????