Hi. I'm installing LTSP using the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS alternate install method. Does anyone know if I need any additional pacakges to have pulseaudio start working?

13:55

Also, can I chroot to the /var/lib/tftpboot and do an adduser to gain access to the local terminal to see how it is doing on a vt?

13:57

<NeonLicht>

you can do so, but doing the chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386/ or wherever Ubuntu places the LTSP root tree (I doubt it does in /var/lib/tftpboot)

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<kb1kdw>

you're right.

13:58

/opt/ltsp/i386 is the correct place. Thank you.

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<NeonLicht>

np, kb1kdw

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<kb1kdw>

It is complaining about "Your account has expired...PAM authentication failed"

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It appears that I can su to the new user, so I'm going to pretend I didn't see the error :) Do I need to ltsp-update-image after each of these type of changes (because my system uses nbd)?

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<kb1kdw>

Does sound just work if the right driver can be found for the client machine?

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If I had an evil sound card, like the ESS audiodrive, would audio default back to coming though the server's sound card?

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<kb1kdw>

Hi, does anyone have experience enabling sound on PC based thin clients? I have a lot of different machines to pick from (some good old ISA SB16's in the lot) and I was wondering if anyone might be willing to share some tips on how to get them going.

14:24

I'd really like to get some minor multimedia going so I can have my kids use thin clients.

14:24

Otherwise these PII-400's are going to have to go.

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<alkisg>

SB16? Hmmm that would be really good for freedos & http://www.abandonia.com for the kids :P

14:28

I've done this for one of mine, but with an opti - no sound for all games :D

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<stgraber>

sound usually work with PCI sound cards, for ISA you'll probably need to modprobe the right module manually, you can use a screen-session.d script for that if you're using a recent LTSP (Jaunty's or Intrepid's with my PPA)

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<kb1kdw>

screen-session.d script? Do I need to add that to lts.conf or is that something I can start from within a session?

14:32

Can I change the root password if I chroot to /opt and then passwd?

14:32

<NeonLicht>

you can do so, but doing the chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386/

14:33

mmmhhhh... I think it was you who asked the same question half an hour ago...

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<kb1kdw>

NeonLicht -- Yes, thank you again -- It worked for adding a user.

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<NeonLicht>

ah, ok, it wasn't exactly the same question, but since my answer was about the same I though the question was also the same, hahaha

14:37

<stgraber>

screen-session.d scripts are scripts executed right before X is started on the thin client, you can find some in /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d in the thin client chroot (if you're using a recent ltsp)

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<kb1kdw>

Does the current ltsp look in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf or /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf ?

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<srdjo>

anyone know how to change kiwi logo on opensuse kiwi-ltsp ldm screen

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<epsas>

i am going to accept the defaults for the aptitude?

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or did you do something to munge interactivity?

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sorry, wc

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<Svenstaro>

Can I use ltsp wih the same user on many clients?

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Basically, I want to use a single "student" account on 30 different machines at the same time.

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<Ryan52>

probably not.

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<Svenstaro>

How would you do it?

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<Ryan52>

do what? use separate users. what are you trying to accomplish?

19:01

you might want to use the guest login.

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<Svenstaro>

Currently, they use a horrible system too horrible to mention here. I want to replace it and make it a lot easier to manage, but having to manage 30 users indiviudally is hard for a normal teacher.

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<Ryan52>

script it?

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<Svenstaro>

To be honest, its too much of a hassle, even then. All I want is an account that looks the same everywhere and that provides new students who login with a new clean interface that will be reset on every login.

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<Svenstaro>

Can this be accomplished by forcing guest login for every thin client?

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<Ryan52>

not the automatic reset.

19:07

<Svenstaro>

Will kiosk mode accomplish my goals?

19:08

* Ryan52 doesn't know what that is..

19:08

<Ryan52>

maybe the ltsp cluster account manager thing can.

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<Svenstaro>

That thing soudns very promising

19:46

Never mind that, I just checked it out and it's kind of immature.

19:46

It looks like I need a custom solution, what a shame.

19:46

I might as well create my own distribution for this.

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I checked out Edubuntu, Skolelinux, K12Linux and some very small attempts and so far none of those seems to get it right, or maybe I'm just twisted in my demands.

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<Ryan52>

Svenstaro: what don't they "get right"?

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<Svenstaro>

Edubuntu is very, very scattered and inconsistent on the documentation side but it offers the most options in my use case. The others imply that you are using a per-student user which is too much administrative overhead in my case.

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<Ryan52>

edubuntu doesn't imply that?

19:49

you can have a per-student user or a per-workstation user...and they all have support for both of those.

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<Svenstaro>

Err well Edubuntu implies that I use one account per workstation at least.

19:49

<Ryan52>

ya.

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<Svenstaro>

Would you recommend per workstation use?

19:50

<Ryan52>

yes

19:50

then you can also use guest login.

19:50

(which does basically that..)

19:50

you still have to set up the users yourself, tho.

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<Svenstaro>

The idea was this: If a new computer gets added or another gets replaced, no administration is required to make the machine work. As it stands now, I need to assign the MAC address after it is added.

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<Ryan52>

0.o?

19:51

why mac address?

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<Svenstaro>

For autologin to work, the machine needs to know which user auto-logins on which workstation.

19:51

And it is based on their MAC addresses.

19:51

<Ryan52>

or it'll fall back to the hostname.

19:51

so...set up dhcp.

19:52

if you have 50 computers, set up 255 users/dhcp ip addresses.

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<Svenstaro>

How does a new workstation know its own hostname?

19:52

Oh I see.

19:52

Didn't think about user per IP.

19:52

<Ryan52>

add a script to set it based on the ip address.

19:52

(it == the hostname)

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<Svenstaro>

Mhh..

19:55

Even then, how do I automatically restore the users' default desktop and settings?

19:55

<Ryan52>

nightly cron job?

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<Svenstaro>

Okay, I can override all the directories all the time, but there has to be a more elegant..

19:55

:/

19:56

Basically, I want to make the user directories behave exactly like the system were a LiveCD