By this logic Celestia and Luna are chosen unicorns transfered by very powerful magic (probably many united unicorns performed this spell) to winged princesses or they were summoned by unicorns to rule them.

Take a look at a flag in Hearth's Warming Eve - There are two sisters which means they did one of these things(or they arrived from nowhere)

Quote from: Zbizo on 2012 Jun 22, 04:34:29By this logic Celestia and Luna are chosen unicorns transfered by very powerful magic (probably many united unicorns performed this spell) to winged princesses or they were summoned by unicorns to rule them.

Take a look at a flag in Hearth's Warming Eve - There are two sisters which means they did one of these things(or they arrived from nowhere)

If a group of unicorns could create luna ,and celestia it makes their magic powerful enough to lift the sun ,and moon using only one unicorn so it can't be.

My theory is that alicorn is just a rare race that doesn't have to be immortal they aren't necessarily royalty or important like cadence was a foal-sitter alicorns are just a very very rare race that has the powers of all 3 other races.

Celestia and Luna were probably around during the time of the harsh winter, they just didn't take on a more direct role until they noticed a way to unify all three pony races into a well organized and peaceful nation.

Quote from: Princess CelestiaDiscord is the mischievious spirit of disharmony. Before my sister and I stood up to him, he ruled Equestria in an eternal state of unrest and unhappiness. Luna and I saw how miserable life was for Earth ponies, Pegasi, and unicorns alike, so after discovering the Elements of Harmony, we combined our powers and rose up against him, turning him to stone.

He just came after all races became united. They had two sisters on their flag which means they knew Celestia and Luna before(acording to legend there were no ponies in Equestria before Hearth's Warming Eve). This can only mean Celestia and Luna risen from sun and moon or they were summoned by united races to protect them.

Alicorns could also appear before as windigoes to unite pony races as Book Smarts wrote, one got hit by character performed by Twilight Sparkle(in frozen cave), it could explain what happend to Chrysalis (also Cadence is younger than Celestia so she probably wasn't one of grouped windigoes)

Quote from: Princess CelestiaDiscord is the mischievious spirit of disharmony. Before my sister and I stood up to him, he ruled Equestria in an eternal state of unrest and unhappiness. Luna and I saw how miserable life was for Earth ponies, Pegasi, and unicorns alike, so after discovering the Elements of Harmony, we combined our powers and rose up against him, turning him to stone.

He just came after all races became united. They had two sisters on their flag which means they knew Celestia and Luna before(acording to legend there were no ponies in Equestria before Hearth's Warming Eve). This can only mean Celestia and Luna risen from sun and moon or they were summoned by united races to protect them.

Alicorns could also appear before as windigoes to unite pony races as Book Smarts wrote, one got hit by character performed by Twilight Sparkle(in frozen cave), it could explain what happend to Chrysalis (also Cadence is younger than Celestia so she probably wasn't one of grouped windigoes)

They did point it out but it keeps adding another layer to the whole series.

Star swirl the bearded and although they keep uncovering his history little by little Then the big one turns out he be in the equestria girls rainbow rocks putting the 3 music dragons into another dimension. Hopefully in season 5 we uncover the mystery of this great elder star swirl the bearded.

Star swirl the bearded and although they keep uncovering his history little by little Then the big one turns out he be in the equestria girls rainbow rocks putting the 3 music dragons into another dimension. Hopefully in season 5 we uncover the mystery of this great elder star swirl the bearded.

They were sirens, not quite dragons. Twilight called them sirens, when she was telling her friends about them and how Starswirl banished them.Sirens are often depicted looking very similar to mermaids. They are women who live in the ocean and sing to put sailors under their spell. They often cause sailors to crash their ships.

I think this is why The Dazzlings' pony forms were like evil seaponies.You can see here that they have fish tails, or mermaid tails if you like.

I get the impression that the Sirens are unique, 3-of-a-kind monsters. Although they do bear some resemblance to sea ponies. Maybe they were sea ponies once, but found the gems which mutated and fused with their bodies?

And I also notice the comment Discord makes about turning ponies to stone. He's a jerk, sure, but I get the impression he never killed or seriously harmed anypony. Which feeds into that whole "Tyrant Celestia" narrative. But then, that's just another reason those two are perfect for each other; Discord can learn manners from Cellie, and she can learn restraint from him.

Disclaimer: I'm not into "shipping" except in the case where show staff do it, which makes it hilarious. Celesticord FTW!

PS: I was too lazy to read the entire thread. Apologies if any of this has been said before.