02:41:41mod6:this was never actually posted publically yet. there is some very strange bjam error that doesn't allow the bash script to continue automatically. if one runs it, then you'll have to comment out the build lines for openssl, bdb, and boost and re-run.

02:42:19mod6:I can post it if you wanna use it though. the hope was to have a fixed one here by sometime next week.

02:45:25asciilifeform:BingoBoingo: have you tried restricting it to one known-good node on the lan to sync from ?

02:45:58mircea_popescu:decimation: Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' << afaik this view was never controversial. i was kinda surprised to see people react to my ocasional statement to the effect with total shock.

02:46:22BingoBoingo:asciilifeform: Nope, syncing "in the wild" to make sure it can. Looking like it will be a sub 2 week sync time so happy with that

02:46:27asciilifeform:BingoBoingo et al: the way i'm thinking now, the 'sync from one node at a time' thing will have to be killed with fire before 0.5.3/pogo (or otherwise) is given to civilians

02:46:51mod6:the static build script seems to exit after line 53 for some reason, haven't had time to debug. if one should figure out a workaround/fix/patch for that, that'd be much appreciated. otherwise I can fix myself when I'm back.

02:55:23mircea_popescu:so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ?

02:55:35mod6:last note: this is all predicated on the fact that one would have run the v0.0.8 perl script to patch the R.I. So you might need to alter line 62 to point to the correct bitcoin build directory.

02:55:48nubbins`:it really is only like another $8 for the purple logo'd one, hey?

03:09:59BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious

03:45:05danielpbarron:i tried to buy twitter followers on the silk road once, but canceled when the guy couldn't decrypt the GPG message containing the username (not for my account / i was trying to freak out an associate of mine who takes twitter way too seriously despite having only 50 followers)

03:45:09mircea_popescu:which, coincidentally or not, centers on me writing an article about her

03:45:25BingoBoingo:mircea_popescu: I dunno, that artist and his blawg...

03:58:10BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware

03:58:19mircea_popescu:you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz.

04:00:11mircea_popescu:asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day."

04:00:14asciilifeform:my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized

04:00:40BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more?

04:00:47danielpbarron:asciilifeform, the app helps in that it isn't aimed at establishing long-term relationships; you can already have a new one-night-stand ready for when you're done with the current one

04:02:00BingoBoingo:<asciilifeform> well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs

04:11:33BingoBoingo:http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-10-reasons-why-the-gabf-sucks.html << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. I?m well-aware of the brewery association?s rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli

04:11:34BingoBoingo:gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesn?t mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene

04:16:27ben_vulpes:decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference.

04:17:50BingoBoingo:I?m not going to go overboard here by claiming that there?s somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanal?say, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction

04:18:33thestringpuller:danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor?

04:18:49BingoBoingo:"There?s a gathering ?round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams? And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar

04:19:17*:mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy.

04:20:33danielpbarron:thestringpuller> danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? << no; not sure if i've even been to windsor

04:20:40cazalla:BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink?

04:21:07BingoBoingo:<cazalla> BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening

04:34:09asciilifeform:mircea_popescu: l0l re: cocaine vaccine. the proposed 'dope vaccines' are one of the true eldrich horrors, that, were they actually put to use, would make folks pine for herr doktor mengele and his mercies

04:48:03asciilifeform:unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate

04:55:25asciilifeform:there are conditions that interfere with sleep. as in, cannot - or can only rarely - sleep. eventually fatal. but before victim dies, he experiences more or less the whole gamut of 'meth addict' pathologies.

04:55:50mircea_popescu:actually i so very much doubt that has to be fatal...

04:55:51asciilifeform:which suggests that u.s. army medics were right, and meth (or other stimulator) per se doesn't poison the user

04:56:06unbalanced:BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly.

05:01:19mircea_popescu:cazalla no hysteria, but i get very disinclined to listen to what excuses anyone may have.

05:01:57unbalanced:cazalla, thanks -- I was pondering a similar idea about how to divvy-up boring micro data-cleaning work by pipelining it to many users and doing micro-payments.

05:03:19unbalanced:Like captcha's I'd need a human decision for the choices my code couldn't make... and would need to run each one by say 5 people then take the "wisdom of the crowds" consensus answer.

05:07:54unbalanced:But the question is, how do people driving by know I lurk here?

05:09:37BingoBoingo:'Ernest Gallo told and re-told a story about driving through Atlanta and spotting a man drinking on the sidewalk. ?What?s the word?? Gallo called out. The response was instantaneous: ?Thunderbird!? and both the wino and the millionaire dissolved into laughter.'

05:10:54unbalanced:mircea_popescu: yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything there... I was hoping for an API to hook into but my needs are custom enough I'll likely have to roll my own UI anyway.

05:11:06BingoBoingo:"Not surprisingly, this misguided attempt at respectability failed. Thereafter, Gallo disassociated itself from Thunderbird by simply removing the Gallo name from the Thunderbird label."

05:12:39BingoBoingo:"Television ads featured the fictional characters ?Frank Bartles? and ?Ed Jaymes,? two kindly old men so honest and down-to-earth they ended each spot by thanking viewers ?for your support.?"

05:36:46[]bot:Bet placed: 13.12 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 7(Y):93(N) by coin, 7(Y):93(N) by weight. Total bet: 23.34534479 BTC. Current weight: 91,074.

06:04:56asciilifeform:'If Shkreli acquires Biltricide from Bayer, he plans to raise the price of the drug to $100,000 for a single-day course of treatment, according to people briefed on Turing's business plans. No other changes or improvements to the drug will be made by Turing. The extra revenue generated by Biltricide is expected to earn Turing a fast profit for its investors and help defray the cost of developing other, experimental drugs, sour

06:45:26asciilifeform:'In all of the discussions, H?ss is quite matter-of-fact and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would have occurred to him if somebody hadn?t asked him. There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse and even the prospect of hanging does not unduly stress him. One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually normal, but with

06:45:26asciilifeform:the schizoid apathy, insensitivity and lack of empathy that could hardly be more extreme in a frank psychotic' << could be a description of virtually any

06:52:58BingoBoingo:"The inmates broke out of their housing structures and converged in the recreation yard, setting fire to several kevlar domes, or tents, that serve as prison housing, the paper said."

07:45:15mircea_popescu:unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along. << there's something fundamentally naive about one imagining he can extract useful work out of an assemblage of idiots.

07:50:58mircea_popescu:BingoBoingo that site with the idiotic "from around the web" "weird tricks" etc spam

08:21:13mircea_popescu:the fucking shrem defense. "i'm not an asshole, i just had to behave like one. but my real me is still intact! i'm a narcissist, my actions don't describe me!"

08:21:45ben_vulpes:shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima. play with the feds: get exiled. exile yourself from the us, wither on the vine of unprofitability.

08:22:04ben_vulpes:makes me wonder what those of us desperately milking the bezzle of what drops it yields will be castigated with.

11:04:27punkman:unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore << punkman occasionally does data-cleaning/dedupe/linkage/acquisition work for hire

11:14:02punkman:BingoBoingo: cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity << better dentist also helps. I have a couple front teeth chips with the "natural" fillings, never had to replace.

11:23:23cazalla:punkman, i've had the left front tooth done about 10 years back, that one has lasted, right one around the same time but it got chipped months back, bit pissed off this one has chipped so early but i gnaw bones and shit too so who knows

12:37:41BingoBoingo:<mats> 5:44:43 <+punkman> asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing << Suboxone is not vaccine, merely partial agonist, does not trigger immune response

13:00:01punkman:" the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."

13:01:57punkman:"Because the people have spoken, and while most of it was complete gibberish, numbers don't lie. People preferred 4.0, and 4.0 it shall be. Unless somebody can come up with a good argument against it."

13:11:06chetty:<punkman> " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is ?only? 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."// its very simply a new sort of 'wall'

15:15:02mircea_popescu:nubbins` 9 months with gunnery sargeant hartman, on the understanding that if you fail you get your balls chopped off and spend the rest of your life = the next few years chained to a wall in a brothel for arab fags.

15:19:40nubbins`:i'm talking about the "you" that doesn't exist, but in this alternate world where you'd be ostensibly an american in charge of american troops

15:20:03mircea_popescu:the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local

15:22:45mircea_popescu:imagine, you sign up for the military, you get the guarantee that you'll be pushing shit uphill for a coupla decades, then when you're fortysomething you get a farm and an ethnic bride.

15:30:10asciilifeform:when i worked for (not in, must note) u.s. army, the thing that always got me was the pixellation on their camos

15:30:30thestringpuller:nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less << took me 7 years to get through GATech. Failed Calculus like 9 times.

15:30:35asciilifeform:everyone looked like the weakest monster from 'doom'

15:31:16mircea_popescu:punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! you can only target particular proteins, which coke is not.

15:31:40asciilifeform:also the notion of deploying immune reaction against small molecule...

15:34:19*:asciilifeform read up on the cocaine vaccine thing. will note that even if it works as claimed (no blood-brain barrier penetration) - the net effect, if everybody were injected, is simply to multiply the standard dose of coke for man by 1.5x or so

15:34:29assbot:Logged on 23-02-2015 13:00:01; punkman: " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."

15:35:54mircea_popescu:"So far, the arguments against it seem to have been "major numebr

15:35:54mircea_popescu:should go with a major new feature or breaking of compatibility",

15:35:54mircea_popescu:which just shows how little people know. We don't break compatibility,

15:54:43nubbins`:mircea_popescu seems like meth in the usa -- cheap, so poor destitute people in poor destitute towns love it

15:54:57nubbins`:there's a short Vice documentary on it, if you can stand to watch

15:55:06asciilifeform:mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.'

15:58:08nubbins`:asciilifeform definitely was not an ingredient in the reaction they were trying to make occur.

15:58:24nubbins`:something along the lines of the "chili powder" meth in breaking bad

15:58:25mircea_popescu:"So what the hell do we buy now? HP's quality has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig, Lenovo is doing their best to destroy the Thinkpad brand, Asus is incapable of making a device without at least one fatal flaw... is Apple the only one making laptops that aren't garbage anymroe?"

15:58:31mircea_popescu:methinks the consumer has a legitimate question

15:59:59asciilifeform:the basic concept, as PeterL (chemist?) will attest, is that a synthesis doesn't necessarily (and most often) produce only one thing. each step will result in one or more unwanted substances, including everything that failed to react in previous steps

16:00:15asciilifeform:some of the costliest operations in traditional pharma industry are recrystallizations/purifications

16:01:00asciilifeform:hence for every type of -synthetic- (vs. refined from vegetation) dope, there is at least one 'krokodilian' variant where the folks making it didn't see it fit to bother with this detail.

16:03:59PeterL:sometimes for o-chem reaction a 40% yield is a good day

16:04:12asciilifeform:and not only for dope. in usa restaurants have been selling 'fashionable' multi-grain bread. which i fully expect is made from shavings of cutting other kinds of bread at the bakeries

16:41:35mircea_popescu:"The most reliable street test in my opinion is actually the smell of cocaine, as it has a very distinct aroma that none of the additives possess. Unfortunately, for reference, this requires you to have smelt a lot of different cocaine of certain purities, and very few people have had that opportunity. Personally, I think I could estimate cocaine purity from its scent and from looking at and tasting a few milligrams, b

16:41:36mircea_popescu:ut I?ve also handled quite a lot of different batches with known purities."

16:54:02danielpbarron:mircea_popescu> asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow. << LOL i just did such a thing / felt like i was gonna have a heart attack :/

17:25:11cjc:One of the problems with the 90s was... when I bought Pulp Fiction as the first DVD I purchased ever... it was in letterbox format.

17:25:28cjc:I had to wait several more years for it to be in high-def on home video.

17:25:43punkman:mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! << nuh uh I went to school and even paid attention sometimes!

17:26:50mircea_popescu:well can you name any tropane alkaloid that has an immune response associated ?

17:33:29punkman:nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline... << if only the retards came up with saline. I've read about some assholes using spray with glass beads (the kind used to make shiny road paint) that would penetrate the flowers.

17:34:01mircea_popescu:"Since cocaine must dissociate from antibody before it can be metabolized, either in plasma or liver, such results seem surprising. " I'm willing to bet they misread the data, dun actually have a response at all, but hey.

18:09:39pete_dushenski:"Areva, the French nuclear technology giant, warned on Monday that it was facing a loss of a magnitude that raises doubts about its ability to continue operations without an injection of state funds to restore its capital. The state-controlled company expects a 2014 net loss of about 4.9 billion euros, or $5.6 billion, from a loss of €500 million a year earlier." << blame the japs!

19:03:53assbot:"These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeNkIB )

19:14:42mircea_popescu:i just want a functional reference point tree for when this topic is discussed in future. currently, my go-to link for "reddit manipulation" is either the fraudsters or the qntrea article. it's beneficial if they somewhere (like in comments) have a link to a later case they didn't substantially cover

19:16:17ascii_field:at 'hackernews' hand-twiddling the story ratings and outright burial ordered from above has been sop since day one. but the reddit cesspool has generally been left alone (other than by armies of muppets, electric and meat alike) until recently.

19:44:34ascii_field:jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans

19:44:55NewLiberty:'Jeh C. Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, said that it was “indulging in a fantasy to believe you can shut down the Department of Homeland Security and there be no impact to homeland security itself.”' Sure it might become more secure when the security theater show ends and people start taking personal responsibility.

20:29:32mircea_popescu:apud Ballas : "I know, I know, she's only 15-- terrified, Stockholm Syndrome, etc. And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her, I didn't live her life. Though that brings us back to the black teen: why is fear an acceptable explanation for poor judgment, but anger is not? (Hint: they're both not.)"

20:29:53mircea_popescu:in point of fact you can readily distinguish the male dominated society from the female dominated society, because they each succumb to their own foibles.

20:30:10mircea_popescu:in dudeland anger is accepted explanation, fear is not. in broadland, the reverse.