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I have always advocated the pop in a pie pan. They drink it, and, since they can't burp, they simply explode. Not harmful to dogs and cats. But, you've got birds!!

Now, I'm going to recommend a bit different approach.

Snag a 5 gallon pail, a wooden dowel to fit across the pail, and a pop bottle, 16 or 20 oz, doesn't matter. Some RV antifreeze and peanut butter too.

Poke a hole in the bottom of the pop bottlle, insert the wooden dowel, Coat the bottle with the peanut butter. Lay the dowel and bottle across the top of the pail. Pour about 2" of RV antifreeze into the bottom of the pail. TAADAA!!!! You're done!

Set under vehicle, don't have to worry too much about dogs and cats getting into it from there. Birds shouldn't be a problem either. The mice are drawn to the peanut butter, it is like the old Tom and Jerry cartoons, be very quick,where Jerry is wisping through the air, drawn by a smell, the mice will come. They will put their feet on the bottle, and when it turns, which will be very quick, they will lose their balance and fall into the pail of antifreeze and drown.Piece of cake! :-) ( Sorry DW is watching a "Vegas Cake" show on the tv.)

I have always advocated the pop in a pie pan. They drink it, and, since they can't burp, they simply explode. Not harmful to dogs and cats. But, you've got birds!!

Now, I'm going to recommend a bit different approach.

Snag a 5 gallon pail, a wooden dowel to fit across the pail, and a pop bottle, 16 or 20 oz, doesn't matter. Some RV antifreeze and peanut butter too.

Poke a hole in the bottom of the pop bottlle, insert the wooden dowel, Coat the bottle with the peanut butter. Lay the dowel and bottle across the top of the pail. Pour about 2" of RV antifreeze into the bottom of the pail. TAADAA!!!! You're done!

Set under vehicle, don't have to worry too much about dogs and cats getting into it from there. Birds shouldn't be a problem either. The mice are drawn to the peanut butter, it is like the old Tom and Jerry cartoons, be very quick,where Jerry is wisping through the air, drawn by a smell, the mice will come. They will put their feet on the bottle, and when it turns, which will be very quick, they will lose their balance and fall into the pail of antifreeze and drown.Piece of cake! :-) ( Sorry DW is watching a "Vegas Cake" show on the tv.)

While I have no proof, or experience one way or another, I have read that using a baited trap for rodents as a deterrent may actually draw rodents that otherwise would not be around, to the snack, and create a rodent problem that wouldn't have been otherwise.

I'd like to use D Con but on the wet side of the mountains, you can't find it

You can get it from Amazon if/when you really need it. Our son & daughter-in-law bought a house near Portland, OR last year. It was infested with the little turds! We couldn't find d-Con anywhere local. So, ordered it and had it at the house in 2 days.

You can get it from Amazon if/when you really need it. Our son & daughter-in-law bought a house near Portland, OR last year. It was infested with the little turds! We couldn't find d-Con anywhere local. So, ordered it and had it at the house in 2 days.

I'd like to use D Con but on the wet side of the mountains, you can't find it

Tomcat works better IMO, and you may buy it in pet-safe disposable bait stations too.

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I have been using a combination of strobe lights and dryer sheets. Nothing to really attract the critters, just repel them. Have two types of strobe lights. Some are 12 volt lights like used for emergency vehicles and some are 120 volt DJ style strobes. No more mice since I started doing this.

I also believe what works in one place may or may not work equally well somewhere else. You're mileage may vary.