I am currently in the process of re-writing and compiling a new guide to the Hollow Mtn side of Mt
Stapylton. I am not sure what the exact format of the end product will be (internet, print, PDF). It will
be a comprehensive guide to ALL of the routes in the area stretching from VD Land all the way to
Guerenica Block and includes Red Wall, and Golden Showers area.

I am after ANY information about new routes, bad bolts, sandbag grades, routes that require more
stars, HISTORY about anything and even some nice photos - especially ones with historical interest.

I will also require several proof readers to check the final text - if you know this area well then please
contact me and I can arrange print-outs of the info for cross-checking.

2: Weebling 25m 21 [Old School]
You either love it or hate it.
Climbs the blank face right of Guernica with several BR's.
Desperate crimping, sketchy mantles and badly placed bolts makes this an adventure for anyone.
Traverse despertaly left at the third bolt and finish up Guernica's sandy arete.

I got some great info from Kieran and Bill, but nothing else. I have compiled and re-written all the
descriptions and created 20+ photo topos so far. I have found a few repeats written up as new routes, the
big bad one was Amnesia (17) at Amnesty Wall. This popular sport route was most likley climbed by
Keith Lockwood and Ray Lassman only 12 months before Dianne Fermie and Matt Brooks bolted it. The
original name of 'No Fixed Gear' isn't so apt now!

On 12/07/2005 dalai wrote:>That depends if they wrote it up? If they didn't make the FA details public,>then they can't have issues about the second 'FA'.

They wrote it up in the VCC Argus mag. This was prior to the VCC new routes being made 'public' on the
new routes page of their website. Hopefully having an up-to-date online guide will solve future problems
such as this one.

I need someone to do the hard research. That is the big problem, most of the names & grades are only
known by a select few. The best method is to narrow in on one easy to do area (lets say Loopys for
example). Get all the info together, including brief history, first ascent dates, problem names. If possible
take some high quality topo photos. Once you have these send it to me and I can add it into the guide.
Once that is done and a formula is created we can move onto the really complex areas like Anderons
and the bloody confusing Hollow Mtn Cave.

There is a lone FH on a carrot bolt on the face between Koalasqatsy (21) and Ooh Ooh Aah Aah (23) at
Cut Lunch Walls. The bolt appears ot be at least 10 years old. I have not been able to find a route
decription for this line - maybe it has never been done? Anyone? Anyone?

We did Clicke Crack on the weekend and thought it deserved a star. Classic old school jamming with surprising foot holds. Tape would have been very usefull and big cams were essential (for the non-Carrigans' of this world). Solid for the grade but probably fair for that style of climbing