Many thanks or the explanation, I'll try it out without buying the amp.

So in this case I assume that W4 will sounds great with: FLAC or 320 kbps MP3 for Musical Instrument rich music such as Orchestral / classical music and acoustic live concert.

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Originally Posted by JohnSantana

Soul,

Yes that does make sense, $ 19 E1 is nothing to compare with Predator amps (*_*) for sure...

and now the only thing that makes the difference for truly enjoyable music and sound listening is... the source of music itself.

I just realized that most of my music collections are Heavy Metal and Rock music (none of them FLAC), I guess I must listen to Classical music and more live acoustic concert to be able to appreciate this W4.

it seems great, did you try grado gr10?

always consider these:

don't forget cause and effect relationship in this hobby

never forget, what is cause and what is effect

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Never forget the main reason for this hobby

It is easy to get caught up in the equipment and lose sight of the main reason we got involved in this crazy hobby - the music. You can enjoy music equally as much on a $80 pair of headphones as an $800 pair

Most of the time I'm listening to Rock Metal music collections with Ultimate Ears UE700 (2x BA) on my iPhone with Fiio E1, I don't know if by spending some more money into buying Westone W4 and Fiio E17 USB DAC can give different listening experience or not ?

because I cannot tell if there is any improvement after using Fiio E1 or not using Fiio E1 with my iPhone 4S?

Most of the time I'm listening to Rock Metal music collections with Ultimate Ears UE700 (2x BA) on my iPhone with Fiio E1, I don't know if by spending some more money into buying Westone W4 and Fiio E17 USB DAC can give different listening experience or not ?

because I cannot tell if there is any improvement after using Fiio E1 or not using Fiio E1 with my iPhone 4S?

hi

sorry I haven't heard e17 or ue700 or e1

if you want to use e17 with iphone, you just can use it as an amp not dac/amp

currently I'm using w4r with arrow 4G

the difference is nowise huge (of course it depends to your definition of huge and what you call huge or little difference)

the difference is somewhat in SQ and imagine

first of all, you must know what is your preference in sound signature and what is lacking your current rig.

Thanks for the clarification, so yes have saved my money :-) because mostly I listen music from my iPhone, so I'm getting Fiio E11 instead of Fiio E17 (more expensive with DAC but obviously cannot be used while on the go).

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Originally Posted by heart banger-97

hi

sorry I haven't heard e17 or ue700 or e1

if you want to use e17 with iphone, you just can use it as an amp not dac/amp

currently I'm using w4r with arrow 4G

the difference is nowise huge (of course it depends to your definition of huge and what you call huge or little difference)

the difference is somewhat in SQ and imagine

first of all, you must know what is your preference in sound signature and what is lacking your current rig.

Do you mess around with EQ much on your music player? I have a Cowon J3 that I'll be using with my new W4's. I'm going to keep the BBE up as usual, but I may turn the bass up slightly. I know I did for the W2's, and although the W4's' should have more bass...I'm still a slight basshead.

I don't like to EQ much. If I'm switching from a brighter headphone to W4 then my ears may take a little time to adjust to the difference, and I might bump the treble a little. Most of the time I don't need to do that. I think the W4 have more bass than my W2, and it seems to be at about the level of my UM3X, which is a little less than the W3. I think the W4 bass level and quality is very good.