Portuguese police are probing whether toddler woke up and walked out of flat Met Police's Operation Grange inquiry is separate to Portuguese detectives' But both met up recently to discuss possibility she was taken after wandering offPrevious lines of investigation included a bungled burglary at the apartment

Portuguese police are investigating the theory that Madeleine McCann disappeared after waking up and walking out of her parents' Algarve holiday apartment.

Sources close to the probe into the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance say investigators are revisiting the possibility something happened to her after she left the flat - and not inside.

The Home Office announced last week it would grant an extra £150,000 to Operation Grange to keep the investigation going until spring next year.

You know all this money still being spent? Wouldn't it be better spent setting up a fund to help ALL the parents of missing children to at least have a fair bash at publicising their plight? Funding for those who can't afford it, or haven't the wherewithal to do this?

_________________“As man advances in civilization, and small tribes are united into larger communities, the simplest reason would tell each individual that he ought to extend his social instincts and sympathies to all members of the same nation, though personally unknown to him. This point being once reached, there is only an artificial barrier to prevent his sympathies extending to the men of all nations and races.”

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

So how do you think the Masons helped the McCanns?

_________________“As man advances in civilization, and small tribes are united into larger communities, the simplest reason would tell each individual that he ought to extend his social instincts and sympathies to all members of the same nation, though personally unknown to him. This point being once reached, there is only an artificial barrier to prevent his sympathies extending to the men of all nations and races.”

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

So how do you think the Masons helped the McCanns?

Who knows. I think the whole incident stinks anyway. We've had that discussion on here before.

From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity. One must also believe in a higher divine energy. It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity. One must also believe in a higher divine energy. It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?

_________________“As man advances in civilization, and small tribes are united into larger communities, the simplest reason would tell each individual that he ought to extend his social instincts and sympathies to all members of the same nation, though personally unknown to him. This point being once reached, there is only an artificial barrier to prevent his sympathies extending to the men of all nations and races.”

HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity. One must also believe in a higher divine energy. It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?

Who said the masons were part of that? I didn't. I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'. It's perfectly plausible.

HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity. One must also believe in a higher divine energy. It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?

Who said the masons were part of that? I didn't. I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'. It's perfectly plausible.

Would they need that? I thought they were rich and also had donations pouring in from around the world.

_________________“As man advances in civilization, and small tribes are united into larger communities, the simplest reason would tell each individual that he ought to extend his social instincts and sympathies to all members of the same nation, though personally unknown to him. This point being once reached, there is only an artificial barrier to prevent his sympathies extending to the men of all nations and races.”