Get a blog for the links, leave dead threads alone, and accept that Arch is a systemd distribution and practically all other distributions will be (or already are) too.

]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=548862014-07-13T22:11:00Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1435727#p1435727https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=152606 for starters.]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=255222014-07-13T22:02:39Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1435724#p1435724is there arch without systemd?i want less distro without complexity..http://boycottsystemd.org/

systemD is much more than the rc scripts. Are you gonna be replacing the other parts as well or your only issue is with systemD's service files?

It is not systemD (nor Systemd), but systemd. On high holidays you may also spell it sÿstëmd.

Socking news. That changes everything.

]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=69092012-12-09T15:09:06Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1203914#p1203914I just read (in the forums) that there are some good experiences from users running openrc with archlinux, so yes it is possible.]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=48382012-12-09T03:24:54Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1203735#p1203735Lone_Wolf wrote:

i've looked a bit into replacing systemd, and it seems to me there are 3 things that could/need to be replaced :

- the init system - udev- logind

there are several alternative init systems around, and also udev has been forked a few times.

replacing logind could be done by compiling polkit with specifc ./configure options to use alternative methods for authenticating.consolekit is one of those alternatives, unix groups are another.

Yes bad example. I was looking at logrotate and cronie which don't seem -to ignorant me at least- to be needed. At least nothing requires them on my system.

Many package require a cron daemon, and systemd does not offer the full functionality of cron. The same with logrotate: I still have log files in /var/log/ (for example, from apache) that need rotation. I guess neither of those packages is going away.

Thanks for the answer. I believe systemd will gain full crone functionality at some point and some packages will probably be made to work better with the journal log.

]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=514652012-11-23T13:20:05Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1197436#p1197436i've looked a bit into replacing systemd, and it seems to me there are 3 things that could/need to be replaced :

- the init system - udev- logind

there are several alternative init systems around, and also udev has been forked a few times.

replacing logind could be done by compiling polkit with specifc ./configure options to use alternative methods for authenticating.consolekit is one of those alternatives, unix groups are another.

As I brought it up initially, I'll just add that Archbang uses systemd, as per their latest iso announcement. However, they also have a "SystemD free projects" board in their forum, where the aforementioned anti-systemd element seem to congregate.

I find this incredibly amusing... I guess they can't develop their own stuff.

As I brought it up initially, I'll just add that Archbang uses systemd, as per their latest iso announcement.

I've tried one of the latest November pre-release images and it came completely with a pure systemd configuration.

]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=291872012-11-22T17:20:44Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1197144#p1197144As I brought it up initially, I'll just add that Archbang uses systemd, as per their latest iso announcement. However, they also have a "SystemD free projects" board in their forum, where the aforementioned anti-systemd element seem to congregate.]]>https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=18222012-11-22T16:25:25Zhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1197127#p1197127ANOKNUSA wrote:

@89c51: syslog-ng may not be part of the base group anymore, but you can still use it in place of the systemd journal if you like.

Technically alongside the systemd journal - you can tell journald to forward logs to syslog while neither writing to disk nor keeping a journal in RAM, but journald will still be running as systemd itself wants it.