Paul Zagreb wrote:The really good thing about web fora is that nobody ever gets to have the "final word" on anything!

Quite true.

Whoops, please let someone else post after me, or I'll be accused of wanting the last word again

I guess it all started for me sometime around Christmas 1967 and now, goodness me, it's.........2018 and over fifty years later.No one ever listens to me. I might as well be a Leonard Cohen record.Neil from The Young Ones