Very good rant and you make excellent points, many of which we agree on.

My thing on gun control is that there is clearly a problem yet we're not willing to even try to address it. I don't know what politicians are so afraid of. If people are relying on the NRA to tell them how to vote, odds are they are not going to flip to the party they see as "100% anti-gun," as many brand the democratic party. We clearly need to do something.

While I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control, I think people underestimate the impact going through one actually has on the woman. It's not like going in for an immunization - it's pretty traumatic. That being said, not having it be legal will push it to the back allies as it was in the early half of the last century when women were dying in the process (the fetus dies too, it's actually more death, if you view abortion as such). If they're going to happen, which they absolutely will, why not have it be in a safe environment?

My favorite is the Paradise Post article. It definitely shows exactly how tolerate the current republican party is:

Democrats say they’re more tolerant than Republicans, but if you really are looking for tolerance, you’re way more likely to find it among people who identify with the GOP, the party of Trump. They’ll tolerate damn near anything so long as it carries Trump’s brand. No idea is off limits, no lie too outrageous, no moronic utterance too stupid, no tweet too weird, no breach of ethics or morality too great for the Republican Party or its deplorable base to question.

Fair. That one slipped through. I read through the first few

EDIT: Deleted for mis-quote. The entire article is full of crap anyways.

Very good rant and you make excellent points, many of which we agree on.

My thing on gun control is that there is clearly a problem yet we're not willing to even try to address it. I don't know what politicians are so afraid of. If people are relying on the NRA to tell them how to vote, odds are they are not going to flip to the party they see as "100% anti-gun," as many brand the democratic party. We clearly need to do something.

I think a lot of people are scared that its a step in the wrong direction. Give an inch, they take a mile. Thats what it feels to the "you're not taking my guns" crowd.

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While I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control, I think people underestimate the impact going through one actually has on the woman. It's not like going in for an immunization - it's pretty traumatic. That being said, not having it be legal will push it to the back allies as it was in the early half of the last century when women were dying in the process (the fetus dies too, it's actually more death, if you view abortion as such). If they're going to happen, which they absolutely will, why not have it be in a safe environment?

Agree 100% here.

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Gay marriage is just a reality. Get over it.

Could care less who wants to marry who, TBH. If you're gay, thats fine by me. Not my cup of tea, but you do you.

Again, straight CNN talking point here. It was shown multiple times that Trump has used this same imitation with others dating back to 2005, it had nothing to do with the fact that the reporter was disabled. Feel free to look it up. There are videos everywhere.

You're still focusing on trump here, instead of the supporters/party. I thought this was about tolerance?

Either way, this was an optics game for Trump, keep your enemy's closer kind of thing.

"Armgate" as they like to call it, was completely driven by MSM. If you have any evidence that it was anything more than MSM trying to stir up faux-outrage, please let me know.

A whole whopping 2 shutdowns, centered around the same issue. Obama had 1 as well, Bill Clinton had 2.

So the gunman mentions trump in his manifesto, and all the sudden its Trumps fault? C'mon. You can't be that brainwashed.

Who are you addressing? I didn't write it...

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Facts are repetitive? Your insult is a bit more imaginative that ADC or Silent or MK, but your core arguments are flawed. As they always are when you unquestionably support the orange snowflake/liar in chief.

Facts are repetitive? Your insults are a bit more imaginative that ADC or Silent or MK, but your core arguments are flawed. As they always are when you unquestionably support the orange snowflake/liar in chief.

Show me these facts you speak of.

Also, I do not "blindly" support Trump. I suggest you dig back through my history in politics.

But you wont do that, because you're just trying to get under peoples skin, like a typical troll.

Why is that so hard to understand? We're all people. Its ok to have a different opinion than someone else, and its ok to not agree on everything.

Seriously, people need to get the hell of the fringes and come into the middle, its much nicer here.

This is one of the biggest things I feel has been the downfall during this administration. The extremely polarized atmosphere that just seems to get worse. You can blame it on the Left, you can blame it on the Right, but does it really matter? Its a combination of the vocal minority that exists on the edges of both the right and left that are driving the political dissonance in this country.

Also, I do not "blindly" support Trump. I suggest you dig back through my history in politics.

But you wont do that, because you're just trying to get under peoples skin, like a typical troll.

Its ok to admit it, I enjoy a good rouse from time to time.

You're the one using the word troll. Why dont you show me when you haven't been lock step with Trump. You'll probably have to dig deep.....
I've posted many times supporting Trump policy and/or personnel decisions. I'll dig them up if you want me to. I dare you to do the same, vis a vis any negative Trump positions.

Why is that so hard to understand? We're all people. Its ok to have a different opinion than someone else, and its ok to not agree on everything.

Seriously, people need to get the hell of the fringes and come into the middle, its much nicer here.

This is one of the biggest things I feel has been the downfall during this administration. The extremely polarized atmosphere that just seems to get worse. You can blame it on the Left, you can blame it on the Right, but does it really matter? Its a combination of the vocal minority that exists on the edges of both the right and left that are driving the political dissonance in this country.

I was making a joke. I know where I stand politically and it's pretty close to the middle.

Politics today is a little like a Star Trek convention.

Most people who go will get an autograph and let the actors know they are fans of their work, but they realize that other franchises exist outside of Star Trek. These are regular American citizens.

Then there are the people who show up dressed like the characters with Spock tattoos and kids named Kirk and Uhura. Even the actors (the politicians) think these people are nuts.

The latter is what is wrong with politics today: A complete failure to acknowledge anything outside of your singular party or see anything objectively.

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You're the one using the word troll. Why dont you show me when you haven't been lock step with Trump. You'll probably have to dig deep.....
I've posted many times supporting Trump policy and/or personnel decisions. I'll dig them up if you want me to. I dare you to do the same, vis a vis any negative Trump positions.

Why is that so hard to understand? We're all people. Its ok to have a different opinion than someone else, and its ok to not agree on everything.

Seriously, people need to get the hell of the fringes and come into the middle, its much nicer here.

This is one of the biggest things I feel has been the downfall during this administration. The extremely polarized atmosphere that just seems to get worse. You can blame it on the Left, you can blame it on the Right, but does it really matter? Its a combination of the vocal minority that exists on the edges of both the right and left that are driving the political dissonance in this country.

I was making a joke. I know where I stand politically and it's pretty close to the middle.

Politics today is a little like a Star Trek convention.

Most people who go will get an autograph and let the actors know they are fans of their work, but they realize that other franchises exist outside of Star Trek. These are regular American citizens.

Then there are the people who show up dressed like the characters with Spock tattoos and kids named Kirk and Uhura. Even the actors (the politicians) think these people are nuts.

The latter is what is wrong with politics today: A complete failure to acknowledge anything outside of your singular party or see anything objectively.

Don't knock Star Trek! Why not pick on the Star Wars people. Of all days to make that statement, right after Bill Shatner gets divorced..........