Your avatar is at least relevant to the discussion, and it shows that you already have a clear bias. The fact that I watch a certain TV show says nothing about my views on drug use.

And I did not say that anyone who does drugs is going to die of it, I said that people, in my opinion are considered dead from the moment they take it up. Who knows, they may turn their life around, and get clean.

Deaths through drug abuse should not be classed as particularly sad, or surprising.

I'm sorry, I tried not to be mean, but, the fact that you watch MLP, kind of makes you lose all your credibility, when it comes to real life stuff.

See, I can judge you on the stuff you like to do aswell, does it feel good?

It. Is. A. Television. Show.

Misinformed is something that fits you better than me in this case, though if you are simple enough to judge someone as dead from the moment they first watched a TV show, as far as I'm concerned, your opinion is no more valid than Michelle Bachman's.

I said that people, in my opinion are considered dead from the moment they take it up.

what the fuck are you saying

Someone smokes weed ocasionally and they should be considered dead?

Weed is just like alcohol and cigarrettes, the only thing that changes is the effects upon its use, and for that reason, it might be a bit more addicting than the other two. THC per se isn't as addicting as other heavy drugs.
That's the reason that I am almost okay with occasional weed users.
Shit gets fucked up when you go above that, tho. Shit like crack and heroin - the two I had most direct contact with - really make you chemically dependent, and I'm completely against their use, and I'm sure that if you saw what I saw you'd agree.

Your avatar is at least relevant to the discussion, and it shows that you already have a clear bias. The fact that I watch a certain TV show says nothing about my views on drug use.

And I did not say that anyone who does drugs is going to die of it, I said that people, in my opinion are considered dead from the moment they take it up. Who knows, they may turn their life around, and get clean.

Deaths through drug abuse should not be classed as particularly sad, or surprising.

you act like people who use drugs cant be normal members of society, that were all just addicts who are dead inside and care about nothing but their next hit. most drug users are normal people.

Misinformed is something that fits you better than me in this case, though if you are simple enough to judge someone as dead from the moment they first watched a TV show, as far as I'm concerned, your opinion is no more valid than Michelle Bachman's.

People who are substance abusers shouldn't be surprised when their life is a mess and they are at deaths door.

I can tell by your avatar that you are already biased on the side of illegal drug use, so I doubt anything anyone will say will persuade that this was not a tragedy and should not be mourned in any great fashion.

In my opinion, she was dead from the moment she lit that first spliff, or snorted that first line.

I think you misunderstand. People develop addictions because their life is a mess, because they have deep psychological problems that they don't know how to/cant get help for. And no, I don't think anyone is surprised, and I'm positive she knew it would happen eventually, but that doesn't make it any less of a tragedy.

I like how you think that someone who uses marijuana advocates the use of drugs that are actually addictive though. It's cute.

And no, no one is dead from the first use of drugs. If that were true, everyone who ever attended a university would be dead. Stop making yourself look ignorant.

His point is that it is her fault that she allowed herself to get to the point where addiction was a risk.

You don't need to be a genius to work out that doing drugs = addiction = death, hence the lack of sympathy.

Allow herself? Once again, you don't understand addiction. People aren't addicts because they want to be addicts. They don't wake up one day and say "Hey, I'd like to be a crack addict." There are many underlying problems, hidden factors that you're completely ignoring because "durr hurr drugs are bad." Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the theories and process of addiction before you make another uninformed, ignorant post in this thread.

I don't troll, I express my opinion, and frankly, I'm man enough to admit that despite the petty nature of the arguments regarding MLP, I'm getting destroyed here, and I've run out of points to make.

Y'all win.

Though I still don't consider this case to be sad.

Ultra Violence explained it perfectly. As he pointed, you lack some understanding about what addiction is and how it works, what makes me believe that that's why you can't find the death of a drug addict sad.
I really recommend you read up on that. After some years of working with terminal drug addicts, I can safely say that my vision of life as a whole has changed a lot, for the better. I hope something like that, at least on a small scale, happens to you.

I think you misunderstand. People develop addictions because their life is a mess, because they have deep psychological problems that they don't know how to/cant get help for. And no, I don't think anyone is surprised, and I'm positive she knew it would happen eventually, but that doesn't make it any less of a tragedy.

I like how you think that someone who uses marijuana advocates the use of drugs that are actually addictive though. It's cute.

And no, no one is dead from the first use of drugs. If that were true, everyone who ever attended a university would be dead. Stop making yourself look ignorant.

And water. And unhealthy foods. And heat waves. And overexercise. And prescription medications.

But they all had it coming too, according to half the people in this thread.

Allow herself? Once again, you don't understand addiction. People aren't addicts because they want to be addicts. They don't wake up one day and say "Hey, I'd like to be a crack addict." There are many underlying problems, hidden factors that you're completely ignoring because "durr hurr drugs are bad." Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the theories and process of addiction before you make another uninformed, ignorant post in this thread.

Wow, I almost feel bad, when I saw her drunk performance a week ago I literally said "This bitch ain't makin it to the end of the month."
Real shame, she was great when her talent outweighed her problems.
RIP.

But if she hadn't taken it in the first place she wouldn't have gotten addicted

Once again, no one wakes up and decides to be an addict. No one tries a drug and says "I'm going to be addicted." When I had my first alcoholic drink, I did not think "I think I'll become an alcoholic." Neither did she. Becoming an addict is a long process riddled with complex psychological problems.

It clearly explains the process of addiction, some underlying factors, and the brain chemistry involved in addictive behavior.

Once again: educate yourself before you make posts about things you don't understand.

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Once again, no one wakes up and decides to be an addict. No one tries a drug and says "I'm going to be addicted." When I had my first alcoholic drink, I did not think "I think I'll become an alcoholic." Neither did she. Becoming an addict is a long process riddled with complex psychological problems.

Read my link. Stop making yourself look stupid and uninformed.

Heroin is far more potent than alcohol, most people know this, you don't try a drug like that unless you aren't worried about getting addicted.

Heroin is far more potent than alcohol, most people know this, you don't try a drug like that unless you aren't worried about getting addicted.

WOW

You ignore my entire post and start talking about heroin? Who the fuck even mentioned heroin? It was only one of many drugs she used. Stop being so tunnel-visioned. And the process of addiction to heroin and alcohol are exactly the same.

And you didn't even try to learn about addiction. I even gave you a source.

You ignore my entire post and start talking about heroin? Who the fuck even mentioned heroin? It was only one of many drugs she used. Stop being so tunnel-visioned. And the process of addiction to heroin and alcohol are exactly the same.

And you didn't even try to learn about addiction. I even gave you a source.

Read the link, or stop posting your pathetically naive opinions.

I read your former post, you just cannot compare alcohol to most drugs, since it usually comes in low concentrations, so drinking one glass of say, vodka per day will not make you alcoholic, whereas snorting crack, shooting heroin and what not will most likely get you addicted

I read your former post, you just cannot compare alcohol to most drugs, since it usually comes in low concentrations, so drinking one glass of say, vodka per day will not make you alcoholic, whereas snorting crack, shooting heroin and what not will most likely get you addicted

Still not reading the link, still actively refusing to educate yourself, still posting ignorant opinions.

And yes, I can compare alcohol to most drugs, because it is the same process. And since you said "snorting crack," I'm just going to leave it at that.

You're a fucking idiot and understand nothing about drugs or addiction, nor are you willing to learn. So stay in your cave and I'll stay away.