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Matt P wrote:RBI an incomplete statistic and is based off what the hitter in front of you does. If that's the only baseball argument for why the O's should pick him up I still don't understand why people want him.

I agree that RBIs CAN be an incomplete statistic but, it can also be a telling one. MOST hitters that average an RBI every 5.5 or better ABs have a BA with RISP than other hitters with a similar AVG. In effect, these are the hitters that find a way to bring that runner in scoring position home.

As good a year as we had in 2012 is there anyone that doubts we would have advanced farther in the post season if we would have had a team BA with RISP that equaled our team BA?

As good a year as Adam Jones had in 2012, eighty some odd RBIs don't cut it for a four hole guy. Ditto for Davis and Wieters. I would be very happy to add some hitters to our lineup that average at least one RBI every six ABs or better in their career as long as they can field their position. That does NOT mean I want Mark Trumbo, but I would take Kendry Morales and let him and Davis show who can be the better defender at 1B. I would take LaRoche and have the same competition.

Do you realize that JJ Hardy and his sub .280 OBP while being one of the league leaders in double plays was batting 2nd in the order? I don't think most clean up hitters have to do deal with that out of the 2 hole. The O's also had no lead off hitter until Markakis moved their which then placed Davis in front of Jones who we all know is more of an all or nothing type hitter.

RBI per AB is dependent on the hitter(s) in front of the batter just like RBI. Yes, it tells a story, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

Here is the thing, I believe Orioles fans want Mark Trumbo so bad for two reasons. 1) The power numbers really jump out at most fans, and we all know the Orioles need a big bat, so ipso facto, fans say Trumbo is the guy. 2) Perhaps the bigger reason is that he is a name, and someone like that makes them feel that the Orioles are really trying to get better. Also the fact that other teams want him as well, makes Orioles fans believe that if Baltimore got him, we have really done something.

My opinion is that the Orioles should steer away from Trumbo, and Morales may be the better option, but I believe the Orioles are done making moves. Baltimore's front office has a very detailed history of "pretending" to attempt to make moves, but never do and I believe this is the same ole song and dance.

BaltimoreSportsNut wrote:I believe the Orioles are done making moves. Baltimore's front office has a very detailed history of "pretending" to attempt to make moves, but never do and I believe this is the same ole song and dance.

BaltimoreSportsNut wrote:Here is the thing, I believe Orioles fans want Mark Trumbo so bad for two reasons. 1) The power numbers really jump out at most fans, and we all know the Orioles need a big bat, so ipso facto, fans say Trumbo is the guy. 2) Perhaps the bigger reason is that he is a name, and someone like that makes them feel that the Orioles are really trying to get better. Also the fact that other teams want him as well, makes Orioles fans believe that if Baltimore got him, we have really done something.

My opinion is that the Orioles should steer away from Trumbo, and Morales may be the better option, but I believe the Orioles are done making moves. Baltimore's front office has a very detailed history of "pretending" to attempt to make moves, but never do and I believe this is the same ole song and dance.

I don't see how he is a name though. He's played two seasons and other than HR has not been a good player.

BaltimoreSportsNut wrote:My opinion is that the Orioles should steer away from Trumbo, and Morales may be the better option,

You have got to be kidding about Morales. The guy still can't run because of that ankle injury. Looks at some of his highlights from last year running the bases. Plus it's a one year rental. You get probably 4 years with Trumbo. His power numbers at Camden Yards would be so much better than in Anaheim.

I would offer Arrieta and Strop right now and wouldn't think twice about it.

Matt P wrote:I don't see how he is a name though. He's played two seasons and other than HR has not been a good player.

He made the All Star team last year picked by the coach. Wow, you don't think he's a good player? He's not even in his prime years yet. This guy would make a HUGE and CHEAP difference in the middle of that lineup.