today. >> chris: president obama andspeakerboehnersoundingupbeat about prospects to cut a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. after the panel and congressional leaders met at the white house, rhetoric was reassuring. the question is: is it real? do you get a sense, bob, this is the subject of your new book, that they do see or beginning to see a path to compromise or are they trying to reassure the nervous consumers before the christmas holidays? nervous investors because the stock market has gone down 1,000 points. >> symp nervous about this. the next six weeks could be the six weeks that shook the united states if they don't fix this. there is clearly a new move. the way they will this is hostage exchange. otherwise, republicans are determined not to let the tax rate goes up. the president is determined or is determined to get more revenue. and it's possible to do this. and the president is going along with some idea of entitlement reform that we are going to actually cut spending. this is really -- they are going to have to -- they are lagerhead on the tax issue. i'm not sure ho

doors is a different story.johnboehnerdoesn'thave the leverage he used to have. on a conference call he told house republicans they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that mark so much of the last two years. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax inkrecreas. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their lever

to tackle the impending fiscal cliff but the president and the speaker of the housejohnboehnereachdrawing lines that they say they will not cross. the major hurdles, that threat to send the economy into a tailspin, that's coming up next. >>> plus a nascar race turning into a full-scale brawl. look at this. mayhem breaking out of the everybody going at it. we'll tell you what set it off. after this. ve lately. but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. jenna: well come back, everyone. now let's return to the economy. the president and house speaker john boehner are suggesting they are willing to compromise to prevent our economy from going over that so-called fiscal cliff but both sides are digging in their heels whether or not to race tax rates for the wealthy. rich edson of the fox business network watching

to raising taxes on the rich? >> there's no question about it.johnboehnerwassounding, you know, like there might be some way to compromise on that issue. and i love bill crystal, what he had to say about it. who is somewhat of a leader of the more conservative branch of the republican party. so i'm optimistic. but we don't need all the republicans to go along. we need enough rational republicans and then the democrats can provide the rest of of the votes in we get a fair compromise. but anything less than fair that protects the middle class, the president has said he's not going to sign it. >> cynthia, the "new york times" reported on a conference call john boehner the speaker had and it's very interesting what tone he set and a gop senator. let me give you the quote p the quote from the "times" is that their party lost badly, mr. boehner said, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked much of the last two years. members on the call subdued and dark, murmured words of support. that's interesting. and then you had senator bob corker, a key member of the banking committee, went

directly at odds with house speakerjohnboehner. >>could you accept a deal that does not include tax rate increases for the wealthy? we've seen talk about a possible compromise that could leave rates the same but cap deductions for high-income earners. is that something that's acceptable? >> no. >> not at all no, way? >> no. the preponderance made it very clear in his campaign that there are not enough -- what you just described is a formula and a blueprint for hampering our future. you cannot go forward -- you have to cut some investments. if you cut too many you are hampering growth, you're hampering education, investments for the future. >> and even thousands of miles away it appears president obama is still focused on those negotiations. while touring a royal monastery with secretary of state clinton in thailand the president was overheard mentioning the budget talks to a monk. the president later clarified his comments -- >> he's not any monk. >> no. >> he has some big i vestments in the stock market. >> he later clarified his comments at a news conference. >> yes, we were working on

in front of us today. >> president obama andspeakerboehnersoundingupbeat friday about prospects for cutting a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are back with the panel. after the congressional leaders and the president met at the white house on friday the rhetoric was reassuring. the question is is it real? do you get the sense, bob, that really do see or are beginning to see a path to a compromise are they they just trying to calm nervous investors because the stock market is going down a thousand points? >> everyone is nervous about this. this is kind of the last chance. the next six weeks could be six weeks that shook the united states if they don't fix this. there clearly is a new mood, but the way they are going to solve this is kind of hostage exchange. in other words, the republicans are determined not to let tax rates go up. the president is determined or is determined to get more revenue. and it's possible to do this. the president is going along, it seems, with some idea of entitlement reform that we are going to actually cut spending. but this is, you know, they are

consens consensus.johnboehnergotthe message. >> to show our seriousness, we have put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the part of my members that we fully understand that you can't save the country until you have entitlement programs that fit the demographics of the changing america in the coming years. we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> the real problem? let me tell you something, senator. the real problem is two unfunded wars from the bush years, the bush tax cuts, and the give away to big pharma. senator mcconnell, it seems to me l

the election,speakerboehnersatesaid the fight is over and it is i now the law of the land. do these refusals mean the fight may not be over? >> i think the federal government is prepared to run exchanges in the states that don't cooperate. speaker boehner is right, the congress will no longer talk about repealing the law. i think if congress we will see pb cans raising portions of the law they think are controversial or may be able to attract democratic votes and peel back smaller pieces of the health reform law. >> what's your best guess that the the states will adhere to the deadline. mid december ito make their attentions known. >> i think it is important to note the health reform law, people have to select plans beginning in ok of next year and the plans go live in the year following. there's not a lot of time between now and then. states want to run their state exchanges we will know by december which ones are ready and which aren't. >>> ahead, getting to the truth about ben benz. a house member who grilled general petraeus on captiol hill joins us in just a moment. yeah,

boehnerofferedlast year and many top republicans say the government should not be raising taxes on everyone. gerri willis is with us, in other than bill kristol said this will not kill us. he pointed out under president reagan taxes on the rich were 50 percent and that was the highest tax rate and we did well. >>gerri: what bill kristol said we would be okay if we raised taxes on people would on the other hand $1 million or more but not specifically addressing what the president said which is raising taxes on people who earn $250,000 or more which is opposed by some democrats here in new york city. >>shepard: no one wants to pay more taxes. what the president is doing he is not saying $250,000, to observers it sounds as if he is ready for compromise. he said he is ready for compromise. >>gerri: and today he met with a dozen corporate leaders from the biggest corporations, walmart, g.e. and chevron, at least six of them in the meeting today have already served on either the president's jobs council or other councils the president has had and lot of people discussing what to do wi

speakerjohnboehnerstatedwhat his feeling is on dealing with the fiscal cliff. and that sort of perfunctory here's my position sort of gave way to a back and forth between these two leaders. nothing was settled, but the tone was reportedly good and both republicans and democrats in the room seemed aware this would come down to dealing with tax reform and entitlement reform, and the source told me when the president raised the issue of increasing revenue, there was no, "no, we're not going to do that" from republicans, and when republicans talked about entitlement reform, the president agreed that was something that has to be done. >> well, it sounds good, but do you think when it comes down to the brass tacks both sides are actually ready to bend a bit? >> reporter: i think they're ready to bend than they were going into that whole debacle that was the debt situation. there are some specifics that need to be sorted out for sure, exactly how to raise revenue. as you know, democrats would like to raise taxes on the wealthy. republicans prefer to close loopholes, eliminate deduc

the looming budget crisis in washington. house speakerjohnboehnersaysrepublicans want to cooperate but not by raising taxes. >> here we go again. president obama addressed the crisis rather and other challenges he faces in his first post-victory news conference. abc's karen travers is joining us from washington with more. hi, karen. >> reporter: good morning, rob. good morning, paula. white house officials say they were expecting the president to get tough questions and yesterday he got them on a wide range of issues. in his first press conference in eight months, president obama said the american people knew what they were getting when they re-elected him. and his takeaway from last week's results -- >> i have got a mandate to help middle-class families. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff and mandatory spending cuts and tax increases is looming at the end of the year. >> i want a big deal. i want a comprehensive deal. >> reporter: the preside reiterated he is not backing down from the campaign pledge. >> a modest tax increase on the wealthy is not going to break their backs. they'll st

$250,000. >> republicans underspeakerboehneraresaying, look, that's not going to happen. where is the wiggle room? how would you advise the president, the republicans to come up with something that's workable? >> well, you know, some sg is going to happen anyway, suzanne. if they don't reach agreement before the end of the year. those tax rates are going to go up, and the question is how long can the republicans in congress hold out once that happens, and they're going to be held responsible. there was a poll out yesterday that showed people will blame the congressional republicans for going off the fiscal cliff. people decide they had agreed with the president. the president has leverage. after the first of the year he is going to have more help in the senate, more help in the house, and he will have automatically higher tax rates, so the question will be will the republicans in the house and senate vote to lower the rates for the middle class because they will have gone up. one way or the other it will be resolved. that $3,500 tax on families, it's not going to happen. the qu

leaders to avoid the fiscalcliff.boehnerandmcconnel and nancy pelosi and harry reed reed. without a deal billions of tax increases go into affect january 1st. and those are your head lines. i would like to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. >> brian: there is shock waves across the markets. coming in way above expectations, remember that explanation. hurricane sandy's fault. everyone gets fired when a hurricane hits? what kind of logic is that. >> a crash scene with a baby girl trapped in the twisted metal. but you haven't seen the hero that jumped inside to save her, he's coming up this hour. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. it's a new way to get cash back deals, and it's called bankamerideals! i sign into my online banking... click the "cash back deals tab"... and pick the deals i want. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay,

and overspending problem and not an under taxing problem. we heard from speakerjohnboehner. hesaid that revenue is on the table. the issue here is that president obama has said he wants to increase tax rates on wealthy americans. the speaker and house republicans are still not on board with increasing tax rates, although perhaps closing some loopholes to raise some revenue, and even though there's a lot of kind of kumbaya going on here, suzanne, there's still a lot of tough work that needs to be done. they're still maybe punting on some of the important issues like tax reform and entitlement reform, but they'll be dealing with the fiscal cliff here in the near term. >> it's probably difficult to tell, but we see these pictures, and it's very common, right? you get about 30 seconds to see them all in a room together. they're patting each other on the back, smiling, and shaking hands, that kind of thick. do we have any sense of whether or not there were any different kind of tone or language when they were meeting behind closed doors that gives us a sense that maybe this is real? >> you know, i t

when you saw nancy pelosi out there. you sawjohnboehneroutthere saying we are hopeful we can get a deal done. and the market had a positive reaction to that. yet it lost that upside throughout the day, teetered back and forth between positive and negative territory. finally, closing the day out positive, so perhaps that suggests that maybe we are a little bit closer. but here's the thing, randi, they've got to get something done. they've got to solve this issue. because if not, the consequences are severe. >> but you listen to some people, and they suggest that fears of fallen off the cliff are overblown. what are the real consequences here? >> the real consequences are another recession. i mean, i can tell you every ceo that i'm talking to right now says i'm not making major decisions. i'm waiting. i'm standing by the sidelines. i can't hire a lot of people, i can't invest in a lot of infrastructure because i don't know what the landscape is going to be in the next 45 days. i don't know what the landscape is going to be in the next three months. so there's a lot of holdup. now,

boehnerorthe president leave behind when they leave office if they can't get a deal done and what about a second term compromising and going your own route. >> terrific point. the big things that have happened in our country's history, the big pieces of legislation have either come when we've had enormous majorities of one party or the other, the great society, president johnson and a huge land side, lying majorities in congress, or with a compromise. what we've not had historically is closely fought vague important things happen. big reform. this case the president has the senate but he also has a republican house. and so i think and i'll look at this from thomas jefferson, you look at it with ronald reagan it goes all the way through, presidents who manage to give as well as to take particularly in a second term do the best. >> john your said in your article that the president should be careful about the conventional wisdom for second terms for presidents. what did you mean? >> i don't think he should climb under his desk and hide. i don't think he should be tot

can pass the alternative. but it's your problem to get the votes.andboehnerwouldbe well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but instead to say paul ryan's going to bring a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you, you'll get the right to have a democratic substitute. and if you can get enough republicans to vote for it, terrific. but they do not have an obligation to concede that the only mandate in washington is the president's. >> you're talking about chains hiring people for 29 hours. i'm hearing that from small business owners across pensacola. >> yeah. >> my own district. on election night i got three different e-mails from small business owners going it's sad -- and i said this on the air a couple days ago. they said i'm going to have to put these people on for less than 30 hours and i'm going to lose my best people. i can choose to do that or fire six, seven people because my margins are so small i'm fighting to keep my business open. >> you track the number of layoffs and closures in the first week since the election, it's sobering

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at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speakerjohnboehneryesterdaythrew cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more information to congress, but he had a press conference yesterday instead of going to a closed briefing where administration officials were giving more information. well, ted barrett asked john mccain about that, and it was apparently an intense very angry exchange and mccain simply would not comment on it at all. >> so this is just getting uglier and uglier, at least more passionate, shall we say, dana bash. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >>> the gop republicans struggling with its party identity after losing the presidential election last tuesday and it's not just pundits trying to figure out why the republicans

. former lt. governor of new york. and author of decoding the obama health law.johnboehnersaidit is now the law of the land. good to see you. biggest colonel to me, my family and to people out there watching. will my quality of care care change? >> first of all, you may lose the plan you get on your job. and you may lose full-time job status as a result. this law says that employers. >> is this all of it. >> this is all of it. >> we like our guests to bring us cake not 2,000 pages of healthcare legislation. >> unfortunately this is what you have got. this law says that employers with 50 or more full-time workers have to provide health insurance. not just any health insurance but the one size fits all government designed plan. that cost almost twice as much as what many employers currently provide. so, as a result. employers in many cases are going to drop the coverage and may even move their full-time employees into part time status to avoid the penalty. >> we have already seen companies doing that. >> that's right. and the government actually predicts that under this employer mandate,

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