This is not something you can incorporate into your game.
Its an expression for a situation in a hand when you dont have the nuts but have a good hand and villain is playing their hand as if they have the nuts, ie very aggressive or slow playing.
Either they have the nuts in which case you are way behind or they are bluffing or floating with complete air and you are way ahead.
You then have to make a decision which one it is, ie way ahead or way behind when you could be calling all your chips off.

Originally posted by rhinoneil
This is not something you can incorporate into your game.
Its an expression for a situation in a hand when you dont have the nuts but have a good hand and villain is playing their hand as if they have the nuts, ie very aggressive or slow playing.
Either they have the nuts in which case you are way behind or they are bluffing or floating with complete air and you are way ahead.
You then have to make a decision which one it is, ie way ahead or way behind when you could be calling all your chips off.

I don't agree. This is something you want to incorporate into your game, in this simple way: in these situations you will not bet for value. If you're way ahead, you won't get called by worse, if you're way behind, you will get called by better and have close to zero outs.

It doesn't mean you will never bet, you still have some reasons to bet:

- bluffing trying to represent a much better hand that you have
- avoiding to be bluffed on later streets by worse hands
- not being too predictible
- ...

I don't agree. This is something you want to incorporate into your game, in this simple way: in these situations you will not bet for value. If you're way ahead, you won't get called by worse, if you're way behind, you will get called by better and have close to zero outs.

It doesn't mean you will never bet, you still have some reasons to bet:

- bluffing trying to represent a much better hand that you have
- avoiding to be bluffed on later streets by worse hands
- not being too predictible
- ...

Ah okay, this is kind of what I thought it was as I had seen judges in the hand review section talking about it.

Example wa/wb, you hold AhKs and flop comes KhJsJc, in that case you're wa/wb because if villain has a hook you're screwed so you'll try and probe-bet the flop but pay attention to bluffers who will easily 3bet you simulating the J

Originally posted by rhinoneil
This is not something you can incorporate into your game.
Its an expression for a situation in a hand when you dont have the nuts but have a good hand and villain is playing their hand as if they have the nuts, ie very aggressive or slow playing.
Either they have the nuts in which case you are way behind or they are bluffing or floating with complete air and you are way ahead.
You then have to make a decision which one it is, ie way ahead or way behind when you could be calling all your chips off.

I don't agree. This is something you want to incorporate into your game, in this simple way: in these situations you will not bet for value. If you're way ahead, you won't get called by worse, if you're way behind, you will get called by better and have close to zero outs.

It doesn't mean you will never bet, you still have some reasons to bet:

- bluffing trying to represent a much better hand that you have
- avoiding to be bluffed on later streets by worse hands
- not being too predictible
- ...