I was just doing my max effort deadlifts though grunting as I do (at the very least). With a bit of a rounded back some must have thought I would be put off by the dude ****ing up his lower back but meh.

(Original post by Gallium)
i noticed the most difference from direct arm work, also db shoulder presses kill the triceps

Tbh my arms were so weak that direct arm work like curls is done with stupidly light weights, like half the weight i db bench. And i read soething recently that said db bench was awesome for biceps/upper body stability etc...

(Original post by Daax)
I've seen your training logs from a while back brah and you don't curl enough/ see them as a novelty.

That's true. I've always been terrible at them and have made barely any progress on them as i didn't really care about the lift.

(Original post by Motorbiker)
Tbh my arms were so weak that direct arm work like curls is done with stupidly light weights, like half the weight i db bench. And i read soething recently that said db bench was awesome for biceps/upper body stability etc...

That's true. I've always been terrible at them and have made barely any progress on them as i didn't really care about the lift.

If you cared as much about curls as squats you'd be swole and all in them sugar walls!

Thoughts on incorporating powerlifting into routines for mass? For instance, powerlifting the bench press/incline on a 7x4 or something and then incline/bench with 5x8-10 and finish off with flies with 4x8-10. Same would go with legs with squats, leg curls and leg press and then back with deadlifts, one arm/bent over rows and chins/pulldowns.

(Original post by Jakeeyy)
Thoughts on incorporating powerlifting into routines for mass? For instance, powerlifting the bench press/incline on a 7x4 or something and then incline/bench with 5x8-10 and finish off with flies with 4x8-10. Same would go with legs with squats, leg curls and leg press and then back with deadlifts, one arm/bent over rows and chins/pulldowns.

Most sensible bodybuilders will bench, squat and deadlift. Just because they are powerlifting lifts doesn't mean they aren't also great for building muscle

(Original post by Arturo Bandini)
Possibly. Although, if you are stronger on the three lifts (from lifting lower reps, higher weight) then you'll be able to lift more on your accessory lifts, and get bigger?

Personally I 5x5 bench and squat, and 3x3 deadlift, and use back off sets, and then 4x8 or 3x10 isolations.

Yeah I've been reading a lot on how higher reps (in the 6-12 range) is better for mass. But i've been unsure because surely strength would come with mass, the muscles in use would have to become bigger and stronger to adapt to the heavier weight? But yeah, noticed it has helped my accessory lifts a lot with i guess with help with the mass building.

Many bodybuilders do some form of deadlifting/squatting/benching. They just tend to do higher reps and possibly go to failure more often. Getting strong at the basic lifts is nearly always valuable, although of course if you're a bodybuilder curls, lateral raises, rear delts and a host of other isolation excercises are important as well.

Many bodybuilders do some form of deadlifting/squatting/benching. They just tend to do higher reps and possibly go to failure more often. Getting strong at the basic lifts is nearly always valuable, although of course if you're a bodybuilder curls, lateral raises, rear delts and a host of other isolation excercises are important as well.

(Original post by Jakeeyy)
Thoughts on incorporating powerlifting into routines for mass? For instance, powerlifting the bench press/incline on a 7x4 or something and then incline/bench with 5x8-10 and finish off with flies with 4x8-10. Same would go with legs with squats, leg curls and leg press and then back with deadlifts, one arm/bent over rows and chins/pulldowns.

Heard 531 is good for mass building if you put the right assistance lifts in