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If the Teachers Union want to garnish any local Support from the Parents , then why strike during the SchoolTerm, when Parents are fined for taking Their Children out of School during Term Time. I find it completely wrong that Teachers can interrupt the Education of their Pupils, for their own Gain.......
They can make their point as effective during the Summer Break !!!! Which would be the proper time to Strike, if that's what they feel will be effective.
Myself, I believe this is just a Farce by the White Collar Unions to try and Topple the Government.

If the Teachers Union want to garnish any local Support from the Parents , then why strike during the SchoolTerm, when Parents are fined for taking Their Children out of School during Term Time. I find it completely wrong that Teachers can interrupt the Education of their Pupils, for their own Gain.......
They can make their point as effective during the Summer Break !!!! Which would be the proper time to Strike, if that's what they feel will be effective.
Myself, I believe this is just a Farce by the White Collar Unions to try and Topple the Government.Blue Owl

Blue Owl wrote:
If the Teachers Union want to garnish any local Support from the Parents , then why strike during the SchoolTerm, when Parents are fined for taking Their Children out of School during Term Time. I find it completely wrong that Teachers can interrupt the Education of their Pupils, for their own Gain.......
They can make their point as effective during the Summer Break !!!! Which would be the proper time to Strike, if that's what they feel will be effective.
Myself, I believe this is just a Farce by the White Collar Unions to try and Topple the Government.

Blue Owl,

Your comment regarding the "teachers' union wanting to garnish support" merits nothing less than being treated with all the due seriousness and gravitas that it truly deserves.

With that in mind; many readers will wonder what type of 'garnish' you are suggesting here?

Would you recommend candied lemon rosebuds or perhaps a delicate tomato rose?

Maybe some fun gelatin cut-outs or colourful carrot flowers would be more suitable?

Or then again perhaps you're simply talking melon balls?!

(Socialist Party member with a sense of humour, writing in a personal capacity.)

[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote:
If the Teachers Union want to garnish any local Support from the Parents , then why strike during the SchoolTerm, when Parents are fined for taking Their Children out of School during Term Time. I find it completely wrong that Teachers can interrupt the Education of their Pupils, for their own Gain.......
They can make their point as effective during the Summer Break !!!! Which would be the proper time to Strike, if that's what they feel will be effective.
Myself, I believe this is just a Farce by the White Collar Unions to try and Topple the Government.[/p][/quote]Blue Owl,
Your comment regarding the "teachers' union wanting to garnish support" merits nothing less than being treated with all the due seriousness and gravitas that it truly deserves.
With that in mind; many readers will wonder what type of 'garnish' you are suggesting here?
Would you recommend candied lemon rosebuds or perhaps a delicate tomato rose?
Maybe some fun gelatin cut-outs or colourful carrot flowers would be more suitable?
Or then again perhaps you're simply talking melon balls?!
(Socialist Party member with a sense of humour, writing in a personal capacity.)SocialistParty-SomersetBranch

Firstly, this is not just teachers striking; but many public sector unions are also striking and therefore other services may be effected.

Secondly, with regard to the point about parents getting fined for taking their children out of school during term time, this is nothing to do with the teachers, most are apposed to this new system which takes away the school's discretion.

And finally, with many fantastic teachers leaving the profession completely, leaving state sector schools to work in private schools or simply leaving the country to teach abroad simply because it is wrong what is happening in our schools and the expectation and pressure being put on our young people. Schools are now having to focus on levels, expecting more children to achieve more and more unrealistic goals, forgetting that children are individuals and learn at different paces.

So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment.

Firstly, this is not just teachers striking; but many public sector unions are also striking and therefore other services may be effected.
Secondly, with regard to the point about parents getting fined for taking their children out of school during term time, this is nothing to do with the teachers, most are apposed to this new system which takes away the school's discretion.
And finally, with many fantastic teachers leaving the profession completely, leaving state sector schools to work in private schools or simply leaving the country to teach abroad simply because it is wrong what is happening in our schools and the expectation and pressure being put on our young people. Schools are now having to focus on levels, expecting more children to achieve more and more unrealistic goals, forgetting that children are individuals and learn at different paces.
So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment.cpd

cpd wrote:
Firstly, this is not just teachers striking; but many public sector unions are also striking and therefore other services may be effected.

Secondly, with regard to the point about parents getting fined for taking their children out of school during term time, this is nothing to do with the teachers, most are apposed to this new system which takes away the school's discretion.

And finally, with many fantastic teachers leaving the profession completely, leaving state sector schools to work in private schools or simply leaving the country to teach abroad simply because it is wrong what is happening in our schools and the expectation and pressure being put on our young people. Schools are now having to focus on levels, expecting more children to achieve more and more unrealistic goals, forgetting that children are individuals and learn at different paces.

So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment.

Well said cpd!!

Solidarity with all the public sector trade unionists taking coordinated strike action against austerity on July 10!

End low pay!

Fight until we win!

The coordinated action over local government pay on 10 July will bring up to 1.5 million workers out on strike from across public sector unions. The 1% 'offer', following a three year earnings freeze, is a pay cut not a pay award.

Typical local government full-time hourly earnings are the same now as in the early 1990s. Part-time hourly wages have fallen to 2002 levels. 8% of full-time and 38% of part-time local government workers earn less than the living wage.

Meanwhile living costs soar through the roof: food bills up by 16%, electricity and gas by up to a staggering 57%. These price rises mean nearly a 20% fall in real wages with pay-day loans and food banks plugging the gaps for the army of working poor. 'Recovery'? Not for us!

Strike against austerity

But this strike and the mood that has led to the coordinated action is also about a whole lot more. We are battling a wholesale jobs massacre as local government is dismantled, jobs are slashed and public services sold off to private profiteers.

If our jobs have so far escaped the axe, we face increased workloads and pressure, and increasingly brutal disciplinary and sickness procedures in stealth job cutting by managers.

Enough is enough

Workers are reaching the point where they feel pushed to the limit by this demolition government of millionaires hell-bent on the destruction of public services.

Those of us who are school support workers in Unison and GMB have gained a massive boost in being able to strike alongside our teaching colleagues. Joint picket lines at school gates, refuse depots, libraries and council offices will, at last, give local government workers a feeling of our own strength.

Not a one-day battle

This fight will not be won on 10 July alone. In building for the ballots the message was clear from union members: this is no time for token one-day action. We demand a determined and escalating battle that delivers us a victory and a first mighty blow to the austerity agenda.

In the planned further action in September, the unions must use every weapon in their armoury. Our members in academy schools, who are not part of the July action, must be given the chance to fight, as should the army of health workers in their pay dispute as our NHS is dismantled and privatised.

The TUC must seize this opportunity and the massive potential it presents. Public and private sector workers alike have waited long enough to unite and fight. The opportunity for a 24-hour general strike could be just a few months away.

Things could move rapidly through 10 July and beyond as a mood of confidence and angry determination ignites among workers and union leaderships must not be allowed to lag behind and dampen the flames.

10 July is the beginning of a fight we must win!

For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o
rg.uk

[quote][p][bold]cpd[/bold] wrote:
Firstly, this is not just teachers striking; but many public sector unions are also striking and therefore other services may be effected.
Secondly, with regard to the point about parents getting fined for taking their children out of school during term time, this is nothing to do with the teachers, most are apposed to this new system which takes away the school's discretion.
And finally, with many fantastic teachers leaving the profession completely, leaving state sector schools to work in private schools or simply leaving the country to teach abroad simply because it is wrong what is happening in our schools and the expectation and pressure being put on our young people. Schools are now having to focus on levels, expecting more children to achieve more and more unrealistic goals, forgetting that children are individuals and learn at different paces.
So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment.[/p][/quote]Well said cpd!!
Solidarity with all the public sector trade unionists taking coordinated strike action against austerity on July 10!
End low pay!
Fight until we win!
The coordinated action over local government pay on 10 July will bring up to 1.5 million workers out on strike from across public sector unions. The 1% 'offer', following a three year earnings freeze, is a pay cut not a pay award.
Typical local government full-time hourly earnings are the same now as in the early 1990s. Part-time hourly wages have fallen to 2002 levels. 8% of full-time and 38% of part-time local government workers earn less than the living wage.
Meanwhile living costs soar through the roof: food bills up by 16%, electricity and gas by up to a staggering 57%. These price rises mean nearly a 20% fall in real wages with pay-day loans and food banks plugging the gaps for the army of working poor. 'Recovery'? Not for us!
Strike against austerity
But this strike and the mood that has led to the coordinated action is also about a whole lot more. We are battling a wholesale jobs massacre as local government is dismantled, jobs are slashed and public services sold off to private profiteers.
If our jobs have so far escaped the axe, we face increased workloads and pressure, and increasingly brutal disciplinary and sickness procedures in stealth job cutting by managers.
Enough is enough
Workers are reaching the point where they feel pushed to the limit by this demolition government of millionaires hell-bent on the destruction of public services.
Those of us who are school support workers in Unison and GMB have gained a massive boost in being able to strike alongside our teaching colleagues. Joint picket lines at school gates, refuse depots, libraries and council offices will, at last, give local government workers a feeling of our own strength.
Not a one-day battle
This fight will not be won on 10 July alone. In building for the ballots the message was clear from union members: this is no time for token one-day action. We demand a determined and escalating battle that delivers us a victory and a first mighty blow to the austerity agenda.
In the planned further action in September, the unions must use every weapon in their armoury. Our members in academy schools, who are not part of the July action, must be given the chance to fight, as should the army of health workers in their pay dispute as our NHS is dismantled and privatised.
The TUC must seize this opportunity and the massive potential it presents. Public and private sector workers alike have waited long enough to unite and fight. The opportunity for a 24-hour general strike could be just a few months away.
Things could move rapidly through 10 July and beyond as a mood of confidence and angry determination ignites among workers and union leaderships must not be allowed to lag behind and dampen the flames.
10 July is the beginning of a fight we must win!
For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o
rg.ukSocialistParty-SomersetBranch

The Somerset branch of the Socialist Party is proud to continue offering full and unequivocal support and solidarity to Somerset NUT members and all other trade unionists in your struggle to defend your pay and other conditions of service, as part of the wider struggle to defend our vital public services.

End low pay!

Fight until we win!

The TUC must seize this opportunity and the massive potential it presents. Public and private sector workers alike have waited long enough to unite and fight. The opportunity for a 24-hour general strike could be just a few months away.

For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o
rg.uk

The Somerset branch of the Socialist Party is proud to continue offering full and unequivocal support and solidarity to Somerset NUT members and all other trade unionists in your struggle to defend your pay and other conditions of service, as part of the wider struggle to defend our vital public services.
End low pay!
Fight until we win!
The TUC must seize this opportunity and the massive potential it presents. Public and private sector workers alike have waited long enough to unite and fight. The opportunity for a 24-hour general strike could be just a few months away.
For more information, or to join the Socialist Party, visit: www.socialistparty.o
rg.ukSocialistParty-SomersetBranch

Under labour we have developed an economy based mostly on London and the banking revenue. Which is basically why ended up in a recession .

Socialist want to tax all the banks and businesses till there is no point in them being based in the uk to pay for unlimited wages for teachers and other public sector workers.

Is that ABOUT RIGHT. As a short version of the 1000 word posts.

Under labour we have developed an economy based mostly on London and the banking revenue. Which is basically why ended up in a recession .
Socialist want to tax all the banks and businesses till there is no point in them being based in the uk to pay for unlimited wages for teachers and other public sector workers.
Is that ABOUT RIGHT. As a short version of the 1000 word posts.Mi_Coc

cpd said.... "So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment."

I know why they are striking and it has NOTHING to do with them wanting to do the best, etc, etc. It is for THEIR PAY and THEIR PENSIONS. Nothing to do with the children they teach!!!

Don't get sucked in.

cpd said.... "So next time anyone wants to criticise teachers for striking and not doing their job, maybe they need to look at why teachers are striking, is it because they want to do their job to the best of their abilities and do their best for the children in their care, something which currently they can't under the system in place at the moment."
I know why they are striking and it has NOTHING to do with them wanting to do the best, etc, etc. It is for THEIR PAY and THEIR PENSIONS. Nothing to do with the children they teach!!!
Don't get sucked in.Guy Smiley

We are told that to get the best people in banks and businesses, they have to be offered extremely high salaries.

The same doesn't seem to apply to teachers, nurses etc..

Absolutely spot on and correct QuillPen!

[quote][p][bold]QuillPen[/bold] wrote:
Funny, isn't it.
We are told that to get the best people in banks and businesses, they have to be offered extremely high salaries.
The same doesn't seem to apply to teachers, nurses etc..[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on and correct QuillPen!SocialistParty-SomersetBranch

We are told that to get the best people in banks and businesses, they have to be offered extremely high salaries.

The same doesn't seem to apply to teachers, nurses etc..

Absolutely spot on and correct QuillPen!

[quote][p][bold]QuillPen[/bold] wrote:
Funny, isn't it.
We are told that to get the best people in banks and businesses, they have to be offered extremely high salaries.
The same doesn't seem to apply to teachers, nurses etc..[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on and correct QuillPen!SocialistParty-SomersetBranch