I hope denver gets in, More pressure on the failure and savior to get shit down in KC.

StcChief

12-27-2006, 12:51 PM

It would be REALLY cool if the NFL had to move the game to SF!

Won't happen, but it would be cool.
Major power outage etc.
I wouldn't bet against it.

Denver couldn't get out and have to forfeit :clap:

Bwana

12-27-2006, 01:08 PM

*Snicker* Oh boy, the poor bastards at the Donk airport won't know what to do again. They acted like it was the first time that it had ever snowed during the Christmas storm. Hey fellas, you live in the fricken Mountains! Get your chit together.

CosmicPal

12-27-2006, 01:18 PM

*Snicker* Oh boy, the poor bastards at the Donk airport won't know what to do again. They acted like it was the first time that it had ever snowed during the Christmas storm. Hey fellas, you live in the fricken Mountains! Get your chit together.

Well, having worked at an airport for 3 years (in KC), I can tell you from experience it has nothing to do with the runways not being cleared.

Each flight has hundreds of people working on it, and each person plays a vital role in your plane's ability to take off and land.

You have the ground crew: the guys who fuel the airplanes, to the catering, to the baggage handlers, to the mechanics, etc., etc.

You must have the flight crew personnel: the pilots and the flight attendants must be there. Most often, they arrive from another flight/city. This is why fog in San Francisco for two days make other flights around the country delayed. If the planes cannot depart, then the crew cannot arrive in Chicago to make the next flight. Therefore, peeps in Chicago must wait, and the peeps waiting for the Chicago flight- say Atlanta then must wait as well.

You then have all the peeps working inside the airport from ticketing agents to security. If they can't make it to the airport, then you can't get on the airplane.

A few years ago, DIA was open and ready for business during a bigger snowstorm than what we just experienced, but nobody could get there to work; therefore, flights were cancelled even though the runways were cleared and ready.

ASS11

12-27-2006, 01:21 PM

That actually favors San Francisco.

Rain Man

12-27-2006, 01:23 PM

If we get another 20 inches, I might go outside and make a snow sequoia.

chiefqueen

12-27-2006, 01:25 PM

Well, having worked at an airport for 3 years (in KC), I can tell you from experience it has nothing to do with the runways not being cleared.

Each flight has hundreds of people working on it, and each person plays a vital role in your plane's ability to take off and land.

You have the ground crew: the guys who fuel the airplanes, to the catering, to the baggage handlers, to the mechanics, etc., etc.

You must have the flight crew personnel: the pilots and the flight attendants must be there. Most often, they arrive from another flight/city. This is why fog in San Francisco for two days make other flights around the country delayed. If the planes cannot depart, then the crew cannot arrive in Chicago to make the next flight. Therefore, peeps in Chicago must wait, and the peeps waiting for the Chicago flight- say Atlanta then must wait as well.

You then have all the peeps working inside the airport from ticketing agents to security. If they can't make it to the airport, then you can't get on the airplane.

A few years ago, DIA was open and ready for business during a bigger snowstorm than what we just experienced, but nobody could get there to work; therefore, flights were cancelled even though the runways were cleared and ready.

Flight crews aside, they KNOW it's coming, tell the DIA workers living in Denver if they can't get to DIA after the snow starts, they'd better get there BEFORE it starts.

crazycoffey

12-27-2006, 01:26 PM

let it snow, all weekend, nothing but the running game and the niners might pull out a win

chiefqueen

12-27-2006, 01:26 PM

If we get another 20 inches, I might go outside and make a snow sequoia.

You will post pics, won't you????????????

StcChief

12-27-2006, 01:28 PM

What a sh1t job. Airport work in the winter. :)

CosmicPal

12-27-2006, 01:34 PM

Flight crews aside, they KNOW it's coming, tell the DIA workers living in Denver if they can't get to DIA after the snow starts, they'd better get there BEFORE it starts.

OK. Then how bout you do the same for your job? You know there's a major storm coming in and instead of driving home and being with your family, you stay in the office and sleep on the floor under your desk so you'll be there even though the office will be closed.

You're asking hundreds of people to actually stay at the airport, get paid overtime, and wait out a "possible" major storm? Right. :shake:

How do you get the pilots and the rest of the flight crew to Denver BEFORE the storm? They are supposed to change all of their planned routes in other cities just so they can be in Denver before a storm.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

StcChief

12-27-2006, 01:45 PM

OK. Then how bout you do the same for your job? You know there's a major storm coming in and instead of driving home and being with your family, you stay in the office and sleep on the floor under your desk so you'll be there even though the office will be closed.

You're asking hundreds of people to actually stay at the airport, get paid overtime, and wait out a "possible" major storm? Right. :shake:

How do you get the pilots and the rest of the flight crew to Denver BEFORE the storm? They are supposed to change all of their planned routes in other cities just so they can be in Denver before a storm.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Last time I checked the world does NOT revolve around if the airports work or not :), if people are traveling in winter it's their own fault, if they end up stranded.

They can all read the weather forecasts on TV.....

chiefqueen

12-27-2006, 01:50 PM

OK. Then how bout you do the same for your job? You know there's a major storm coming in and instead of driving home and being with your family, you stay in the office and sleep on the floor under your desk so you'll be there even though the office will be closed.

You're asking hundreds of people to actually stay at the airport, get paid overtime, and wait out a "possible" major storm? Right. :shake:

How do you get the pilots and the rest of the flight crew to Denver BEFORE the storm? They are supposed to change all of their planned routes in other cities just so they can be in Denver before a storm.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

First, I'm exempt, I don't get paid overtime. While technically my position is not essential, I work for a local government we do have essential positions (snow plowers, police, fire, etc.). Some of these individuals are asked to come in before the storm if one is forecast.

Second, the first thing I wrote was flight crews aside, but if the local workers are there to keep some of the runways clear and de-ice the planes, the maybe more of the flight crews can get into DIA, keeping some air traffic moving, and because many airlines have hubs in Denver, air travel for the entire country doesn't get screwed up.

Speaking of airports, I'm off to one now.

chiefqueen

12-27-2006, 01:56 PM

Last time I checked the world does NOT revolve around if the airports work or not :), if people are traveling in winter it's their own fault, if they end up stranded.

They can all read the weather forecasts on TV.....

Airports are vital IMO, solely for the potential of having donated organs flown into or out of the airport. When 9/11 shut down air traffic for a week, I read about one airport having to be reopened so a heart patient could have his new heart flown in.

DaFace

12-27-2006, 02:10 PM

I'm gonna be pissed if the airport gets shut down again. I'm flying to Arkansas for a family reunion/Christmas type of thing on Friday. I hope I can get out. :eek:

morphius

12-27-2006, 02:15 PM

I'm gonna be pissed if the airport gets shut down again. I'm flying to Arkansas for a family reunion/Christmas type of thing on Friday. I hope I can get out. :eek:
We all tried to warn you about moving there, but would you listen... nooooo.

Redrum_69

12-27-2006, 02:16 PM

I'm gonna be pissed if the airport gets shut down again. I'm flying to Arkansas for a family reunion/Christmas type of thing on Friday. I hope I can get out. :eek:

I think its already past Christmas

so maybe you mean New Years??

DaFace

12-27-2006, 02:18 PM

We all tried to warn you about moving there, but nooooo.

I'm tellin ya, this has been some sort of cruel trial by fire. If I survive my first few weeks in Denver, nothing will be able to phase me.

By the way, for any of you following the story at home, I'm in my apartment, mostly unpacked, and finally have access to the outside world again (internet, TV, etc.). So hooray for that.

DaFace

12-27-2006, 02:18 PM

I think its already past Christmas

so maybe you mean New Years??

Your family has never celebrated Christmas on a day other than Dec 25th?

Redrum_69

12-27-2006, 02:24 PM

On the 24th we could open one present that night...on the 25th we celebrated Christmas.

Did Mary labor on for a week after the 25th??

morphius

12-27-2006, 02:25 PM

I'm tellin ya, this has been some sort of cruel trial by fire. If I survive my first few weeks in Denver, nothing will be able to phase me.

By the way, for any of you following the story at home, I'm in my apartment, mostly unpacked, and finally have access to the outside world again (internet, TV, etc.). So hooray for that.
Glad you are at least getting settled in.

DaFace

12-27-2006, 02:27 PM

On the 24th we could open one present that night...on the 25th we celebrated Christmas.

Did Mary labor on for a week after the 25th??

Well, though it may not be technically Christmas, we're getting together to exchange gifts and such this weekend. It would be a bit difficult to do so with both sides of our family who live 800 miles from each other on the same day.

StcChief

12-27-2006, 03:03 PM

Airports are vital IMO, solely for the potential of having donated organs flown into or out of the airport. When 9/11 shut down air traffic for a week, I read about one airport having to be reopened so a heart patient could have his new heart flown in.

That I would understand, hadn't thought of medical side.

the business (with internet conf/email/phone) that needs should continue to dimenish.

casual traveller oh well....sorry you decided to travel.

Phobia

12-27-2006, 03:06 PM

This would suck. My brother's family is scheduled to leave Denver Friday to come to KC for a visit. Hopefully they'll get out in time.

DaFace

12-27-2006, 03:09 PM

This would suck. My brother's family is scheduled to leave Denver Friday to come to KC for a visit. Hopefully they'll get out in time.

I'll wave to them across the lobby as we all sit stranded in the airport.

kepp

12-27-2006, 03:19 PM

Well, having worked at an airport for 3 years (in KC), I can tell you from experience it has nothing to do with the runways not being cleared.

Each flight has hundreds of people working on it, and each person plays a vital role in your plane's ability to take off and land.

You have the ground crew: the guys who fuel the airplanes, to the catering, to the baggage handlers, to the mechanics, etc., etc.

You must have the flight crew personnel: the pilots and the flight attendants must be there. Most often, they arrive from another flight/city. This is why fog in San Francisco for two days make other flights around the country delayed. If the planes cannot depart, then the crew cannot arrive in Chicago to make the next flight. Therefore, peeps in Chicago must wait, and the peeps waiting for the Chicago flight- say Atlanta then must wait as well.

You then have all the peeps working inside the airport from ticketing agents to security. If they can't make it to the airport, then you can't get on the airplane.

A few years ago, DIA was open and ready for business during a bigger snowstorm than what we just experienced, but nobody could get there to work; therefore, flights were cancelled even though the runways were cleared and ready.

Things CAN get very confusing at an airport:
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Rain Man

12-27-2006, 03:37 PM

Airports are vital IMO, solely for the potential of having donated organs flown into or out of the airport. When 9/11 shut down air traffic for a week, I read about one airport having to be reopened so a heart patient could have his new heart flown in.

I wonder how many frequent flyer miles you get if it's only one of your major organs on the flight.

Stinger

12-27-2006, 04:05 PM

You know you would think the NFL would make the teams play early because of the potential weather scenerio like they made a certain AFC West team do last year against Maimi. :shake: