SEP 26: BTTS & WIN TEAM EFFORT

ONE of those most popular bets these days is both teams to score and win. Every day we have debates about the types of markets to do, what’s best for making profit, etc – and all the best advice about concentrating in singles goes against taking btts and match result.

Average odds for a treble are about 50-1 but this is because it’s not a treble. You need three outcomes in every match – a team to score, the other team to score at least two and the WDW part. In reality a treble is 27 bets which is why the odds look so good on paper.

As long as punters understand this and realise it’s difficult to land a treble there’s no problem tackling this market for low stakes – I’d suggest 0.1pts per line.

I’m often asked for tips and now and again put them up with varying degrees of success.

Starting this weekend I’m going to put up a fourfold (with trebles advised) and it will be a team effort. I asked for nominations and got plenty and I also put up a shortlist on Thursday.

So from my shortlist and suggestions I’ve put together a line that hopefully gives us a chance.

I’ll place the line for £1 unit stakes and someone who has contributed to the thread with a tip will collect half the winnings. In fact to make it easier to share I’m planning to place 2 x £2.50 bets in a shop and if there is a return I’ll simply post one of the slips out to the lucky punter.

William Hill online pay 238-1 for the fourfold. I’ve placed it in one of their shops and half the return on the fourfold is £247.17 – if we get one treble I’ll need to work it out.

Mr Fixit’s btts & win team effort

WEST HAM v Norwich (10-3)

BIRMINGHAM v Rotherham (16-5)

IPSWICH v Bristol City (11-4)

AYR v Peterhead (13-5)

Perm any 3 and all 4 (5 bets)Pays £496.34 to £1 unit stakes at William Hill

I usually bet on this market,normally i bet a trixie and so far i’m having really good profit this season… My 3 favourites are Dortmund, Dresden(german 3 league) and Innsbruck(Austrian 2 league)… Last weekend only Leverkusen failed to score and i had a lucky goal from desden at 92min, which provide me a tidy profit 😀

I don’t really like this market, I much prefer BTTS Doubles.
However the championship has seen lots of BTTS matches this season and I like the look of Ipswich to beat Bristol City and BTTS.
Hopefully this is not the selection which let’s the 4fold down!! 😮

Great idea my fav fun bet, I’ll put up my s
hort/ long list in the week. Last weekend got a Trixie and a double on my other Trixie.I’ve posted a few winners on here before cov Bristol city Swindon were all regulars last season. like you say small stakes big rewards but only along side a steady staking plan.

Hello , here’s my contribution to the team effort , which I think I’ll back as a 50p patent unless anyone can warn me off (thoughts definitely welcome as these bets rely on a few factors to land) … Btts and win , Gateshead , Torquay and Wrexham , odds 100/30 , 11/4 and 7/2… Cheers and good luck

These markets are obviously hard to land but with experience I think the best leagues for these are the Eastern European. Not often you see games when both don’t score. Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. The MLS league in America can be good for this but teams are quite inconsistent due to the long travel.

Goals seem hard to come by with the North London outfit at the moment but you often sense Arsene has a way of galvanising his team in dark times and with the pressure on, the result certainly matters more to Arsenal than Leicester. You can never write off the Gunners scoring a goal against anyone with their attacking prowess.

Leicester have been a breathe of fresh air and look dynamic in their transitional play from defence to attack. Never mind that they’ve scored 8 goals in 5 games (4 at home).

The stats also highlight Leicester have conceded 5 at home this season whilst Arsenal boast 67% win rate away from home.

The game on the face of it seems poised for goals.

This is a tight call which I appreciate. Do let me know your thoughts.

I do one every weekend, £10 treble, the returns are usually £800-£1200 so one a season and you’re in, I approach it from one of two ways depending on what the games are, one way is of course looking at who is tipped for BTTS and then choosing the side you think is most likely, the other is simply choosing teams who are very likely to win and you just hope that they concede on the day and to be honest I find the latter has been more successful as you tend to see teams cruising with a cushioned lead at 85 mins conceding last minute consellation goals from sloppiness at the back, really not easy to predict at all but they definetly produce the most drama so I always like to back them, looking forward to seeing how others choose their selections and with a concentrated effort and help from everyone else I think that we could pull off a couple this season!

AaronT, I have to be convinced by reasoning – duplicates would help.
I’m also going to have a shortlist of about 10 so any of those that are picked could go in.
It’s a bit of fun really but you never know – it might produce a winner.

Should be a few tomorrow too wi teams resting players, Birmingham could be a decent value bet plus West Ham away to Leicester, add in the Perth Saints at Ibrox for a 419/1 shot @Skybet. Not even looked at the wknd games but I’ll be trying a couple 50p 4folds Arsenal, Aberdeen on Wednesday

This is a bet I do regularly every Saturday as a £10 treble. Last season it came in 3 times with winnings of £3650 in total. I always look at teams with odds from 10/3 to 5/1 which usually gives you a treble of between 100/1 and 150/1.

No winners so far this season but came close on Sunday with Aberdeen, United and Liverpool who I am sure bust many a coupon. This treble was 112/1. Perhaps I should cover the doubles as it is the 3rd consecutive week I have managed 2/3 but I like to go for the big winner with this bet.

My local team Peterhead are away to table toppers Ayr this Saturday and this is a fixture where there should be goals. Last 2 h2h this yeat at Ayr were 2-4 and 3-3. Last 5 homes were 5-2, 2-2, 0-2 (Rangers), 2-1 and 2-0. Last 5 Phd aways 2-2, 1-0, 3-5, 0-4 and 3-0(Rangers). With Rory Mcallister in the team Phd are always capable of getting a goal.

Ayr to win +btts is 5/2 @Bet365
I’m also going to be on Ayr to win and O2.5 which is 17/10 @Boyles

Hull vs Blackburn btts hull win
Blackburn absolutely terrible at the moment but with Jordan Rhodes in a bit of form they don’t seem to have trouble scoring. They couldn’t keep weans out a close at the back tho. Hull havnt kept many clean sheets either.

All Villarreal’s league games this season have seen BTTS come in (1-1, 3-1, 1-3, 3-1). They are also in good form winning there last three games.

So a 1-1 draw followed by three 3-1 wins.

Playing second bottom off the league Malaga who are not exactly free scoring as they are goal less so far, however going with the thinking they must be due a goal and they have home advantage and the fact Villarreal have conceded every game this season so far and won their last three 3-1 it seems a fair bet.

I blog this on my Facebook page every saturday. It took 22 attempts last season to click it (£5 trebs) but gave us a £900 profit overall. 7 attempts this season without any luck although we have been desperately close. My challenge is turning a £5 note into over a thousand pound plus. At the odds we do you only have to get it up once in 180 attempts to make a profit. Have noticed the bookies have slashed the odds that you were getting off them a few seasons ago for these bets! You can also get a good cash out roi if placing them on line with say betfair. I like to throw a Sunday game in which allows you to lay the bet off if you have had 2 of your selections up the previous day.

I love a win btts, I always do a bit of research to. Teams that are doing it or are involved in are Ipswich which is why I think tonight will be a good shout, they play United who have been in a win btts in there last 5 either winning or loosing and I think United will win. Saying that to play it safe go for over 2.5 and btts. Looking at the games over the weekend I can see stoke getting a win but with their shaky defence I can see them conceding. Also Wigan. But teams to look out for this season are Ipswich, man utd, crystal Palace, Portsmouth, odd, aik and torino.

This is a bet I do every week for the last 2 seasons I have won at least once a month but I only back massive favs and just hope they concede normally stick to trebles at £10 stakes normally get between 25 and 30/1 would really appreciate some insight into lower league stats and form looking forward to this forum

Facts for Saturdays games
In Brentfords last 13 home championship games have been over 2 .5 goals
6 of 7 Leeds away championship games have been over 2.5 goals
Scunthorpe have conceded at least 2 goals in last 13 championship away games
Over 2.5 goals in Colchester last 6 away championship games
This hope it’s as simple as it seems
Come Saturday
Game on

Ok blow a rasberry
BLACKBURN 7/1 btts win v hull
Fairly young squad. Improving each sat . Ok i only see them on t.v .up front jordan Rhodes second in the betting for top goal scorer in championship
if he hits a bit of form 7/1 looks big.
W.ham stoke .b burn liverpool .

I’d offer up Stormsgodset but they are a little low at 8/5. Here’s 3 no one has mentioned yet.

Waasland-Beveren v GENT

Gent have 4 draws from 4 away games this season and have been pretty average so far this season. A 4-1 win against Standard Liege last time out was their best win so far and this is a fixture they’ve won the last 5 times it has been played. Waasland have seen BTTS and Over 2.5 Goals in all but one fixture this season and have lost their last 2 league games 5-1. Should hopefully be goals and hopefully be a Gent win.

MECHELEN v Sporting Charleloi

Mechelen are normally strong at home and had won 9 in a row before a 2-2 draw against Westerlo last time out. They have scored twice in every home game so far and have conceded in every every game. Charleloi haven’t been blessed with goalfests yet this season but against Mechelen we should see a few.

LILLESTROM v Mjondalen

Lillestrom have won 6 out of 12 home games having already played the entirety of the top half of the table. Mjondalen are without a win away from home, losing 6 and drawing 5. They’ve scored in 8/11 away games and Lillestrom have only kept 2 home clean sheets so will hopefully score. Lillestrom should have too much for them though.

Shrewsbury Ipswich Colchester is my Trixie for Saturday. I’m sure I’ll knock another one up from the selections on here. Personally I find Fridays and Sundays easier for this bet as high scoring leagues playing. Gl all and let’s hope we get 4 from 4 on Mr fs choices.

I’ll also add Raith Rovers at home to Dumbarton. Since they’ve both been in the championship, all 12 games have seen BTTS and Over 2.5 Goals. Raith have won 4 of the last 5 between the sides at home and their home games are normally pretty good for goals.

Celtic are no great shakes but will b my banker tday hearts hav been terrible of late since levein sed theyl b challengers this yr bfore snatchn a win against a poor killue side.ad fancy celtic -1 and -2 also ht and ft.