Reports Squash Dye Discussion

Yesterday it was reported by several sources that the Phillies aren’t interested in trading for Chicago outfielder Jermaine Dye, considering the bounty White Sox GM Ken Williams wants in return. Rumors yesterday said the Sox wanted a young starting pitcher and other pieces.

The Phils don’t seem to have what the Sox are asking for, nor is it really the right price for Dye.

Meanwhile, it was reported that teams in the northeast are among the seven teams Dye has listed in his no-trade clause. To my count there are four northeast teams: the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets and Phillies.

It really baffles me why players elect to stay out of the northeast. Sure there’s inherit stress with playing in Boston, New York and Philadelphia, but arguably, the four teams in this region are the most successful franchises in baseball. In the last 10 years, the Sox, Yanks, Mets and Phils have won five World Series, and have participated in the series eight times.

One statistic I love pulling out is only three teams have had winning records every season since 2003: the Sox, Yanks and Phils. Clearly these are good teams devoted to winning. Sure, you may get booed a little louder than in, say, Chicago, but you’re likely going to win. It shows Dye and some of these players with no-northeast trade clauses really aren’t out for the championships. And those are players I don’t want on my team.

No big loss. I’d have been okay with Dye if he could have been had on the cheap, but trading upper echelon prospects for an aging slugger on a 2-year, $23 million deal doesn’t make sense while Pat Burrell can be had for free (as far as prospects go). It might even be worth the extra year.

no offense to tim, but hes the one that grouped the phils into that category, and i agree with the way he wrote it. mike, read a little closer, i said “teams.” that includes boston, new yorks, and finally the phils like tim said. Chi sox won once in 88 years, but Dye still plays for them. did your mom ruin the turkey already or are you always this angry? i mean if you need a place to feast, theres always room for one more at my family’s table.

Wow. I did not know only 3 teams have had winning records since 2003. Glad to see the Phils are part of that elite group. If players can’t take the pressure of Philly, then like you said Tim, I don’t want them.

We should offer them one of our top pitching prospects, like Gio Gonzalez and combine him with a failed prospect who will shine with another team, like Gavin Floyd. I’m sure the White Sox would think about that trade!

Phils need to sign Nick Punto. Former farmhand of ours of course. The guy can flat out play defense all over the infield and would be a great super sub for Utley early. He’d be cheap and the perfect bench piece. Switch hitter. He could be the guy that gives Pete Happy the day off against tough RP, and you don’t lose any defense. Allows Dobbs to move to the OF full time.