Maybe we'll have 2 Chaunceys... a PG leaning one and a SG leaning one. I'd be OK with that.

Ball protection, looking for teammates first, and guts to take the big 3 are the ones that led me to that thought with Burke. They are both natural PGs with shooting ability... which makes them scoring PGs.

I always thought Bup Bup was more of a shooting guard / combo guard until LB converted him into a PG. He never really averaged more than 4 assists per game until he came to Detroit. Before he landed with the Pistons, he was listed on the Denver and Minnesota rosters as a SG.

NBADraft.net just ranks players, irregardless of team needs. That being said, I'm sure their top 10 will be fairly close to what actually happens.

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Oh, they rank players, because it is much an insider's game. In the end, as you surmised, they come the closest on how the top ten are following the herd instinct. In JD's mind, including that whole entourage of basketball minds around the Piston table, they confidently conclude that the dust usually settles evenly on the back-sides of the herd. It beats having a strategy.

Chauncey was a good player sure, but his biggest quality was his draw as a leader. And not the Derek Fisher type either. He made the team play better because thats who he was.

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Michigan overachieved with him running the show. We're talking about a guy who is undersized and considered average athletically (for a top 10 pick) that won POY/ Naismith and almost led his team to a Championship. I have the feeling that he's actually a very effective leader. Confident, humble, and unselfish.

"When I was growing up, I played in a lot of big tournaments. I played against a lot of teams and players that were ranked really high and I knew I had to bring my 'A' game to play against. Playing in those kinds of hostile environments in front of big crowds in high school and AAU and stuff, I think it's come more naturally now. It definitely helped me out at this level. When I go out there, I know my team is looking at everything I do. Their composure is based off of my composure. If I get down, they're going to get down. I take that into consideration a lot, and I understand that it's important for me to keep my composure through good plays and bad plays."

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“He is one tough young man. There’s been three or four times this year when a trainer has come to me and said ‘Trey, this is bothering him or that is bothering him, but he doesn’t want you to know about it,’” Beilein said when Burke accepted the Oscar Robertson Player of the Year. “We’d have to almost beg him to come out of plays to say you need some rest. It’s that toughness, mentally and physically right now, that has given us such trust in the way he plays.”It’s that sort of attitude that also inspires the confidence Burke’s teammates have in his ability to guide them through any match-up this season. Burke doesn’t demand anything of his teammates that he doesn’t demand of himself, making him an effective leader.His leadership was on display most when his team was up against the wall in its Sweet Sixteen game against Kansas. It’s something Burke has been working on since the off-season.“I just worked on my lateral quickness, my lower body strength, and being a better leader out there,” Burke said. “Coach asked me at the beginning of the year, what were my goals. I told him, to try to get to Atlanta and win a national championship. I feel like if we get that far, my personal goals will take care of themselves. I definitely felt like those camps this summer helped me out.”For the Wolverines, Burke’s award feels like a team award, because he allows it to. Mitch McGary talked about Burke’s constant recognition of his teammates and their part in his individual success.“He’s gotten so many awards, and he credits us all the time,” McGary said on Friday. “He gives credit to us and thanks us every day for pushing him and letting up on him. He’s a tremendous player and has tremendous character off the court. These honors are well-deserved and I’m happy for him.”Glenn Robinson III offered a similar sentiment.“His attitude’s been great about it. That’s what I love about Trey. He won the Oscar Robertson award this morning, after receiving that he came straight to practice and you couldn’t even tell he won it,” Robinson said. “I really appreciate that about Trey and how he approaches the game.”True to form, Burke is respectful yet borderline dismissive when it comes to the individual accolades. Compared to winning a national title, they are so far down his list of goals he can barely see them.“All these awards are definitely accomplishments, definitely great to have, but I don’t want these awards to get in the way of what this team’s accomplished,” Burke said. “We have a goal of winning a championship and that’s what I’m trying to focus on right now.”

There are reports about how he was the believer in the tournament comeback game that gave the other players confidence in the huddle. He has the reputation as first in and last out of the gym (Ben Wallace like), and he supposedly took time after practices to mentor bench players.

I still find it unlikely that we'll get another guy falling so far at our draft position for the 3rd straight year.

Michigan State overachieved with him running the show. We're talking about a guy who is undersized and considered average athletically (for a top 10 pick) that won POY/ Naismith and almost led his team to a Championship. I have the feeling that he's actually a very effective leader. Confident, humble, and unselfish.

Burke can do one thing Cleaves could never do..... shoot. The only drawback I have with Burke being on the team is I think we would need to move Knight either this summer or during the season, I just don't think you can have your best two guards be that small.

Burke can do one thing Cleaves could never do..... shoot. The only drawback I have with Burke being on the team is I think we would need to move Knight either this summer or during the season, I just don't think you can have your best two guards be that small.

Burke can do one thing Cleaves could never do..... shoot. The only drawback I have with Burke being on the team is I think we would need to move Knight either this summer or during the season, I just don't think you can have your best two guards be that small.

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Yeah you need to move Knight..........to the BENCH! I can deal with a Burke-Singler back court more than a Burke-Knight back court.