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Re: skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Re: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Re: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
skunk-works Lockheed XF-90A 46-688
skunk-works Fw: Fwd: SR-71 Locations ( Static )
skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
Re: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
RE: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Mike Wallace's Donald Keyhoe TV Interview
skunk-works UFO UpDate: Mike Wallace's Donald Keyhoe TV Interview
skunk-works Don't ignore me, I have the solution to your problem.
skunk-works SoCal rattles return
skunk-works U-2 landings
Re: skunk-works SoCal rattles return
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:33:11 -0600
From: Jay Miller
Subject: Re: skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
To all,
As many of you are well aware, I have spent many years covering the
Skunk Works, its aircraft, and its key players - including my old
friend Ben Rich. I've been privileged to work within the bowels of
the company, I have rubbed shoulders with many of its key players,
and I do my best to keep the historical record straight when the
opportunity presents itself.
The information contained in Terry Colvin's well-intentioned e-mail
however, contains many inaccuracies, comments taken out of context,
and a thrust in the direction of deception. I don't think Terry
intended any of this, but in defense of Ben and John - who are no
longer here to speak for themselves - I would like it known that
there is a lot of foolishness in Terry's e-mail.
I knew both Ben and John Andrews extremely well and worked with them
on many projects. Though John did indeed receive a letter from Ben
alluding to a belief in the possibility of extraterrestrials, I can
tell you - having held the letter in my hands and having a copy of
that letter somewhere in my files - that there was no serious intent
on Ben's part to declare that UFO's had influenced the designs of
select Lockheed Skunk Works aircraft.
Simply stated, this is hogwash.
Ben, Kelly Johnson, and the many other less-well-known engineers who
developed the extraordinary family of Skunk Works aircraft and
brought them into the spotlight, would all be quick to tell you that
whoever is promoting this crap has been reading too much science
fiction.
All the best, Jay Miller
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:46:42 +0700 (GMT+07:00)
From: Terry Colvin
Subject: skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Re: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
- -----Forwarded Message-----
>
>From: Martin Shough <>
>To:
>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:51:38 -0000
>Subject: Re: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
>
>
>>Source: The Examiner - Denver, Colorado, USA
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7zquey
>
>>December 23 2008
>
>>CEO Of NASA Contractor Lockheed Knew Of Extraterrestrial UFO
>>Visitors
>>by Jeff Peckman
>
>>Lockheed Skunk Works former CEO knew the Roswell extraterrestial
>>UFO influenced designs of Testor model kits for Roswell UFO
>>models, and U.S. top secret aircraft. According to a CNI News
>>report by Colorado resident Michael Lindemann, the design
>>information was derived from forensic illustrations and
>>numerous witness testimonies about the Roswell UFO,
>>provided by William L.'Bill' McDonald.
>
>>In an e-mail, dated July 29, 1999, apparently addressed to
>>Lindemann, McDonald referenced an excerpt of a discussion with
>>Harold Puthoff, founder of the previously highly classified
>>U.S. "remote viewing" program. McDonald said:
>
>
>
>Let's get this straight: According to journalist Jeff Peckman, a
>man called Michael Lindemann was "apparently" the addressee of a
>copy of an email from William McDonald to Hal Puthoff in which
>McDonald claimed that he had been told by one John Andrews that
>he, Andrews, had been told by Skunk Works CEO Ben Rich on his
>deathbed that many Lockheed designs were influenced by "the
>Roswell spacecraft". This is quite a chain of Chinese whispers.
>
>>Dr. Ben R. Rich confirmed:
>
>>1. There are 2 types of UFOs - the ones we build and ones
>>'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual
>>"hand-me-downs." The Government knew and until 1969
>>took an active hand in the administration of that information.
>>After a 1969 Nixon "purge", administration was handled by
>>an international board of directors in the private sector.
>
>>3. Nearly all "biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by
>>the Roswell spacecraft - from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird
>>onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft.
>
>The SR-71 was a huge and very noisy high-altitude jet plane
>weighing some 65,000lb empty and powered by a pair of massively
>powerful turbojets, designed to a USAF requirement for a
>successor to the U2. Some new technology for that role, to be
>sure. But can anyone say what it is about the SR-71 that would
>connect it with a Roswell UFO supposedly made of balsa-like
>struts and foil?
>
>Peckman, apparently quoting Lindemann quoting McDonald quoting
>Andrews citing Rich, says here that the SR-71 was a
>"biomorphic"design influenced by Roswell. I'd love somebody to
>explain what this is supposed to mean. Biomorphic design as the
>name suggests relates to materials, sensors, control systems and
>the like - usually in robotics - that are derived from applying
>principles found by studying by animals in nature. What does this
>have to do with the SR-71, or with Roswell? Anyone know?
>
>>7. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told
>>[about ufos and extraterrestrials]. He believed they could not
>>handle the truth - ever. Only in the last months of his decline
>>did he begin to feel that the "international corporate board of
>>directors" dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger
>>problem to citizens' personal freedoms under the United States
>>Constitution than the presence of off-world visitors
>>themselves."
>
>>Lindemann added that "Bill McDonald received the above
>>information from Andrews from 1994 until their last phone call
>>near Christmas in 1998." Lindemann also noted "It should also
>>be known that Dr. Ben R. Rich attended a public aerospace designers
>>and engineers conference in 1993 before his illness overwhelmed
>>him in which he stated - in the presence of MUFON Orange County
>>Section Director Jan Harzan and many others that - 'We' (i.e.,
>>the U.S. aerospace community/military industrial complex) had
>>in it's possession the technology to "take us to the stars".
>
>Can anyone quote the 1993 conference presentation by Rich
>accurately and place the origin of this claimed remark in
>context? I have often heard space exploration enthusiasts claim
>(correctly) that we have the technology to send a vehicle to
>another star today if we had the will to do so. How can we be
>confident that Rich said anything more than this? And even if he
>did mean more than this - say, that black technology advances
>suggested to him that star travel could be done more easily or
>more efficiently than white world scientists might think - what
>is the evidence that he was implying any connection to Roswell?
>
>>See the complete letter from John Andrews:
>
>> http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Andrews_03.doc
>
>>and the hand written reply from Dr. Ben Rich.
>
>The "complete letter" from Andrews (also a handwritten note of
>only about 10 sentences) does not contain any information leading
>us to conclude that its addressee, Rich, knew anything about
>reverse engineering of a Roswell spacecraft. On the contrary it
>contains tentative questions about whether or not Rich shares
>Andrews' "tendency to believe" that some UFOs are possibly ET .
>The short reply from Ben Rich himself does not say anything about
>Roswell or UFO engineering either. He replies tersely that, yes,
>he too believes ET UFOs do exist but advises Andrews to "be
>cautious" because of "kooks and charlatans".
>
>Looking for context on the original site
>
> http://www.alienufoart.com/KennethArnold.htm
>
>as recommended at the above URL isn't helpful. There we find the
>two letters presented along with a third page as "three letters .
>. . part of a great body of correspondence that went on between
>USAF scientist Dr. Robert I. Sarbacher, Dr. Ben R. Rich, and Mr.
>John Andrews", but the third letter is actually a page from
>Kenneth Arnold's well-known 1947 article describing his seminal
>sighting.
>
>>Hear more revealing
>>testimony from Disclosure Project whistleblowers. NASA can not
>>deny secrets discovered by UK hacker Gary McKinnon and many
>>astronauts if it expects full funding from the Obama White
>>House administration.
>
>What secrets were discovered by Gary McKinnon?
>
>
>Martin Shough
Terry W. Colvin
Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand
Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:33:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Terry Colvin
Subject: skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Re: Lockheed CEO Knew Of ET Visitors
- -----Forwarded Message-----
>>Source: The Examiner - Denver, Colorado, USA
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/7zquey
>
>>>>December 23 2008
>
>
>
>>Without borthering to repeat the whole thread, I agree with
>>Martin on this. The story immediately struck me as a hodge-podge
>>of insinuation, innuendo, and speculation.
>
>>Kelly Johnson had a spectacular UFO sighting, and he and other
>>prominent aviators and aerospace personnel were (are) well aware
>>of UFOs, and possibly influenced in their design work by them. No
>>surprise there.
>
>>Let's not sink to new lows in sloppy reasoning and careless
>>reporting for 2009.
>
>
>Wind tunnel testing probably had more to do with the developement
>of the second incarnation, the SR-71, than did the knowledge of
>UFO profiles or any death bed confessions.
>
>There's an old adage in aviation; If you have enough power, you
>can make a barn door fly. It doesn't take much power to make a
>barn door fly as a matter of fact. Your typical barn door will
>fly at 60 miles per hour.
>
>A 4X8 foot sheet of half inch plywood will fly at 35 miles per
>hour and tear loose from the ropes securing it to the roof rack
>on a '69 Meteor. I've proved that.
>
>A specific mission - very important - lots of power, titanium
>sheathing and fooling the transonic range was the secret to the
>SR-71's success. Almost as soon as it got airborne the Blackbird
>had to be refueled. It leaked fuel like a sieve until its skin
>was heated up and its engines burned off about 2/3rds of the rest
>taking off.
>
>As for copying the UFO reported profiles of the day AVRO showed
>how unsuccessful this machine would be using conventional power
>and without computer guided control. The same craft today would
>be more successful due to the latter. The former [engine] would
>restrict the craft's ability to achieve any aeronatical advantage
>over the leading edge aircraft of today.
>
>The engine of choice is still conventional thrust achieved
>through prop technology, jet [including RAM and SCRAM]
>technology. To get real speed you need the latter but you limit
>your maneuverability to straight line flight in Mach numbers. The
>SR-71 was fast but not 'fighter' maneuverable.
>
>We know there were other attempts by various aero-companies to
>emmulate the flight charateristics exhibited by these
>unidentified flying objects but they came to naught though some
>conspiracy theorists will claim they were relegated to
>underground activities and are resposible for many of the
>sightings of the present day. But still the air forces continue
>to spend countless billions on exotic technology, trying to get
>away from conventional power sources and flight characteristics,
>despite already having them hidden away.
>
>Martin is being polite with his "...chain of Chnese whispers."
>Over here we have another term involving the words horse and
>fertilizer.
>
>Having first been tipped off by Brad Sparks to the case, Paul
>Kimball has moved the Kelly Johnson sighting onto the documentary
>stage with his 10 Best documentary which includes the case.
>
>
>Don Ledger
Terry W. Colvin
Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand
Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:22:04 -0500
From: "John Szalay"
Subject: skunk-works Lockheed XF-90A 46-688
Recently the topic of the Lockheed XF-90 came up in a different venue.
as I looked on the net for more information, I came across a series of
photos
of the recovery of the remaining airframe from the desert where it has been
since it was used in the atomic bomb tests in the early 50's.
The aircraft has been taken to the AF museum in Dayton where it is supposed
to
be displayed as it was, unrestored , as a example of a nuclear test article.
I thought the group would like to see the photos. of the recovery,
decontamination and as she sits in Dayton, .
Since we cannot post photos to the list, here are the URL's
where they may be viewed..
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2333
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=2335
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=8755
http://daytonipms.com/Walks/XF-90/xf-90.htm
http://www.fluid-tech-inc.com/FTI%20Picture%20Gallery.htm
And Just giggles, how many of you know that the Collings Foundation B-17
"909"
was also a nuclear test airframe ? she was known as "Yucca Lady" and her
original
serial was 44-83575 BUT now carries a "tribute" serial of 42-31909
http://www.nv.doe.gov/library/factsheets/DOENV_777.pdf
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:42:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Terry Colvin
Subject: skunk-works Fw: Fwd: SR-71 Locations ( Static )
- -----Forwarded Message-----
>
>--- In U-Tapao@yahoogroups.com, don meurett wrote:
>
> http://gmaps.tommangan.us/blackbirds.html
>
>--
> Donald Lee. Meurett ( HODAG )
Terry W. Colvin
Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand
Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:51:54 +0700 (GMT+07:00)
From: Terry Colvin
Subject: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
- -----Forwarded Message-----
>
>I received this from a friend. Is anyone else aware of this proposed "aircraft"? Is it realistic? If they expect to have one flying by 2010, I wonder why I haven't heard of it before now.
>______________________________________________
>
>Hard to imagine this big boy flying!!!
>
>
>Aeroscraft - PRETTY WILD LOOKING
>
> http://www.aeroscraft.com/
>
>Even though the Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it requires less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't need a runway. The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter, straight up and down.
>This is not a Blimp. It's a sort of flying Queen Mary 2 that could change the way you think about air travel. It's the Aeroscraft, and when it's completed, it will ferry pampered passengers across continents and oceans as they stroll leisurely about the one-acre cabin or relax in their staterooms.
>
>Unlike its dirigible ancestors, the Aeroscraft is not lighter than air. It's 14 million cubic feet of helium hoist only two-thirds of the craft's weight. The rigid and surprisingly aerodynamic body, driven by huge rear-ward propellers, generates enough additional lift to keep the behemoth and its 400-ton payload aloft while cruising.
>
>During takeoff and landing, six turbo-fan jet engines push the ship up or ease its descent. This two-football-fields-long airship is the brainchild of Igor Pasternak, whose privately funded California firm, Worldwide Aeros Corporation, is in the early stages of developing a prototype and expects to have one completed by 2010.
>
>Pasternak says several cruise ship companies have expressed interest in the project, and for good reason - the craft would have a range of several thousand miles, and, with an estimated top speed of 174 mph, could traverse the continental United States in about 18 hours.
>
>During the flight, passengers would view national landmarks just 8,000 feet below, or, if they weren't captivated by the view, the cavernous interior would easily accommodate such amenities as luxury staterooms, restaurants - - even a casino.
>
>To minimize noise, the aft-mounted propellers will be electric, powered by a renewable source such as hydrogen fuel cells. A sophisticated buoyancy - management system will serve the same purpose as trim on an airplane, allowing for precise adjustments in flight dynamics to compensate for outside conditions and passenger movement.
>
>The automated system will draw outside air into compartments throughout the ship and compress it to manage onboard weight.
>
>
>
>
>
>(On a pressurized plane, windows like these would explode outward. The Aeroscraft would not fly high enough to need pressurization)
>
>
>
>The company envisions a cargo-carrying version that could deliver a store's worth of merchandise from a centralized distribution center straight to a Wal-Mart parking lot, or, because the helium-filled craft will float, a year's worth of supplies to an offshore oil rig.
>
>
>
>'You can land on the snow, you can land on the water, 'Pasternak says. 'It's a new vision of what can be done in the air.'
>
>
>
>Aeroscraft
>
>
>
>Purpose - Long-range travel for passengers who are more concerned with the journey than the destination.. Now this is really neat!!!
>
>
>
>Dimensions (feet): 165' H x 244' W x 647' L
Terry W. Colvin
Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand
Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:11:53 -0800
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
Terry Colvin wrote:
> -----Forwarded Message-----
>
>> I received this from a friend. Is anyone else aware of this proposed "aircraft"? Is it realistic? If they expect to have one flying by 2010, I wonder why I haven't heard of it before now.
>> ______________________________________________
>>
>> Hard to imagine this big boy flying!!!
>>
>>
>> Aeroscraft - PRETTY WILD LOOKING
>>
>> http://www.aeroscraft.com/
>>
I think you should send them all your money. Let us know how it worked out.
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:00:26 -0000
From: "Hill, Robin (UK)"
Subject: RE: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild looking ------
Well, it's an airship. There have been lots of designs on the go for a
number of decades, and a small proportion of them do get built. BAE
SYSTEMS even has a flying prototype of a lighter-then-air UAV.
I admit that a lot of these projects tend to be publicity stunts or
investement hooks for the companies concerned, but there re a few
serious airship / dirigible / aerostat manufacturers out there with
genuine products. This one does have the look of the former about it
(the dark colours and the over-enthusiastic flight surfaces are a bit of
a giveaway), but you never know.
Robin Hill, BAE SYSTEMS, Brough, East yorkshire.
- -----Original Message-----
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Sent: 08 February 2009 17:12
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
Subject: Re: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Aeroscraft - Pretty wild
looking ------
Terry Colvin wrote:
> -----Forwarded Message-----
>
>> I received this from a friend. Is anyone else aware of this proposed
"aircraft"? Is it realistic? If they expect to have one flying by
2010, I wonder why I haven't heard of it before now.
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:41:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Terry Colvin
Subject: skunk-works Fw: UFO UpDate: Mike Wallace's Donald Keyhoe TV Interview
This interview in 1958 is fascinating and even has Parliament cigarette
commercials. Of course I was about nine years of age, more interested in
cartoons and playing outdoors. My interest in UFOs and the paranormal
did not develop until about ten years later.
Oh, I've been downloading this interview for about 30 minutes (100Mbps,
probably 15-20kbps true speed) and it's less than half completed. The
audio is sharp and clear.
Enjoy!
Terry
- -----Forwarded Message-----
>From: UFO UpDates - Toronto
>Sent: Apr 14, 2008 12:28 PM
>To: - UFO UpDates Subscribers -
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Mike Wallace's Donald Keyhoe TV Interview
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6p2yq4
>
>This interview is astounding. Maj. Keyhoe really did an awesome
>job investigating the UFO situation way back then 50 years ago and
>more and presented it in a manner anyone could understand.
>
>The stonewalling and lying by the Air Force is apparent. Even
>Mike Wallace when he tries his bulldog attacks gets a beat down
>by Keyhoe who stood his ground like a Marine should.
>
>This video is a must see by everyone.
>
>I remember months and months in the library archives digging up
>news articles regarding UFOs from the 1800's to the late 1990's
>and one thing that bothered me was that at first the U.S.
>Government was so open about Flying Saucers and suddenly clammed
>up with all sorts of disinformation and threats. I was surprised
>to find the earliest ETH came from government officials and
>scientists. Some news archive aficionados disagreed with me but
>I read those news articles from 1947 myself.
>
>The anatomy of the coverup is so apparent in this interview it
>sends chills up one's spine. Here we have a competent military
>officer with credentials from one end of the country to the next
>and allies with likewise kudos disclosing the first steps to
>like to the American people by their own official sources with
>direct quotes from those officials regarding extraterrestrial
>origins of the Flying Saucers.
>
>Note also how Keyhoe addresses the contactee situation. It's
>exactly what we all should do. These early investigators had the
>luxury of being at the situation fresh without all the
>gobbledygook we have to deal with. Here we have just the
>sightings and displays by the saucers with actual documents. We
>didn't have the abductee info like we do now. It's chilling to
>see the chronology.
>
>Everytime I watch it I get more enthusiastic. It's the early
>research that got me this way in the first place. When I was wee
>lad these early UFO researchers were still around and were known
>by family and friends personally so we got an earful at dinner
>and church and social gatherings.
>
>It's high time the news and debunkers got themselves a good ol'
>fired up cussin' out.
>
>
>Best,
>
>Greg
> ufomafia.com
Terry W. Colvin
Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand
Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:50:14 -0800
From: Patrick
Subject: skunk-works UFO UpDate: Mike Wallace's Donald Keyhoe TV Interview
The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability.
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:11:03 -0500
From: "Earle Hunt"
Subject: skunk-works Don't ignore me, I have the solution to your problem.
Dear Ignacio,
All the c0n trolled m e d s you search for at one place
http://stewartfitoc53.angelfire.com/Index.html
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:19:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Allen Thomson
Subject: skunk-works SoCal rattles return
http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_11840107
Suspected sonic boom rattles Central Coast
By Michael Torrice
Posted: 03/05/2009 01:30:29 AM PST
SANTA CRUZ -- Though many Central Coast residents felt a rattle Wednesday
morning, the source of the shaking was not under their feet, according to the
U.S. Geological Survey.
At 9:15 a.m., USGS sensors detected ground movement, but the signals did not
resemble an earthquake, said Leslie Gordon, a USGS spokeswoman.
The movement appeared to originate off the Monterey Bay coast, Gordon said.
"Our best guess is that it was a sonic boom from a jet off the coast," Gordon
said. "That's all we can say scientifically."
Jet airplanes create sonic booms when they break the sound barrier. As a jet
rips through the air at supersonic speeds, it emits shock waves that produce a
tell-tale bang and rattle buildings.
But the Air Force did not have jets flying off the coast Wednesday morning,
said Steve Bauer, a spokesman at Vandenberg Air Force Base.
After receiving calls about a similar boom in Southern California, the Federal
Aviation Administration said it was searching through flights its employees
monitored Wednesday morning to find the supersonic jet.
"We haven't found anything ... that would explain the sonic boom," said Ian
Gregor, a spokesman for the administration.
Gregor said the FAA would finish its search today.
Officials at the NASA Ames Research Center at Moffett Field had not heard
about the possible sonic boom, said Bruce Buckingham, the center's chief
public affairs officer.
According to the Orange County Register, a sonic boom shook Southern
California at 9:15 p.m. Tuesday, almost exactly 12 hours earlier than the
Central Coast rattle.
Bob Dollar of the USGS told the Register that Caltech scientists reviewed
seismograms from Tuesday night's event in Orange County.
"These data are consistent with a sonic event coming onshore near Dana Point
and traveling northward inland," Dollar said.
"The energy traveled across our seismic sensor network at the velocity of a
compressional wave in air rather than the velocity of a similar wave through
the ground, which is much faster," Dollar said.
The F/A 18 Super Hornet fighter jets used by the Navy and Marines in Southern
California are capable of breaking the sound barrier and producing a sonic
boom felt on the ground, the Register reported. When the space shuttle lands
at Edwards Air Force Base it too produces a sonic boom. There are currently no
shuttles in flight.
The Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office started receiving phone calls from
residents about a possible earthquake just after 9 a.m. Wednesday morning,
said a lead dispatcher.
Julie Drysdale, who lives in Aptos, reported feeling a sonic boom or
earthquake at 9:17 a.m.
"I was outside and heard two loud booms. My husband said the house shook
quickly, like a truck hit it, not the typical earthquake shaking, much
quicker," Drysdale said.
Robert Diller, who lives on Glen Haven Road in Soquel, said he heard four loud
booms this morning -- two before 10 a.m. and another two around noon.
"They made our windows rattle," Diller said. "It was like a blast, it sounded
like a dynamite blast almost."
Residents in Salinas and Monterey also reported feeling the boom.
To confuse matters, the ground did move Wednesday morning as well. The USGS
Web site reported four minor earthquakes in the region. A magnitude 2.0
earthquake hit near Los Altos Hills at 8:40 a.m. Two quakes struck outside
Tres Pinos: a 1.3 magnitude at 5:42 a.m. and a 1.6 at 7:52 a.m.
Gordon said the shaking detected at 9:15 a.m. was not posted on their site,
because it was not classified as an earthquake.
At 11:12 a.m., a 1.7 movement was measured in a quarry near Portola Valley.
The USGS attributed that to a probable quarry explosion.
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Wer mit Ungeheuern kdmpft, mag zusehn,
da_ er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird.
Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst,
blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:07:51 -0500
From: Joseph Donoghue
Subject: skunk-works U-2 landings
I was alerted to this set of U-2 landing clips by former U-2 and SR-71
pilot Tony Bevacqua.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamnTyfkUBY
Joe Donoghue
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:10:45 -0800
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: skunk-works SoCal rattles return
Allen Thomson wrote:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_11840107
>
> Suspected sonic boom rattles Central Coast
> By Michael Torrice
> Posted: 03/05/2009 01:30:29 AM PST
>
> SANTA CRUZ -- Though many Central Coast residents felt a rattle Wednesday
> morning, the source of the shaking was not under their feet, according to the
> U.S. Geological Survey.
>
So we have a sonic boom reported in southern California followed 12
hours later by another sonic boom in northern California with a
sprinkling of minor seismic tremors in the same area? One possibly man
made in a rock quarry. And this is evidence of a black airplane?
I thought we quit chasing sonic booms and seismic activity 15 years ago?
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