I've yet again gravitated towards e17 and this time I took some more time to configure it.
There are, however, some problems I'm encountering:

Although in Gnome my locales work, in enlightenment they don't. This means I don't have Umlauts (+ my keyboard layout is also QWERTY, which is mildly annoying.) Is there a way to have English as the system language but use a German keyboard layout?

Exchange works for wallpapers but not for whole themes - what am I doing wrong here?

Where is "elsa"? Emerge elsa doesn't find it, so I guess it's not (yet) in the overlay; or am I missing something?

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[*] Exchange works for wallpapers but not for whole themes - what am I doing wrong here?

You are not doing anything wrong. Exchange is just broken.

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[*] Where is "elsa"? Emerge elsa doesn't find it, so I guess it's not (yet) in the overlay; or am I missing something?
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elsa is in svn. See the link in the first post. No ebuild is present as yet. It shouldn't be too hard to create an ebuild. I had installed elsa about 9-10months ago but it wasn't really usable. I am unable to locate the ebuild that I created at that time._________________emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using e from git | e18, e19, and kde4 sucks :-/

Ah, thanks.
Problem with my locales was, that e17 does indeed link the chosen language to an appropriate keyboard layout (actually a good idea). What went wrong was that I only thought I had emerged e_modules. Now that I have the modules package, I was able to locate a nice keyboard switcher applet.

As for exchange: I was wondering because I remember it (partly) working about 1 and a half year ago. So I was confused.

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Is there a way of fixing this? I can live with ugly gtk apps, but a properly working keyboard (btw. under gnome it works) would be nice._________________Kali Ma
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For gtk apps, install lxappearance and set a theme. I don't know about locales sorry. You better ask in #e. There are many german users there who have already figured all this out._________________emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using e from git | e18, e19, and kde4 sucks :-/

just synced, looks like there's no keywords added for engage yet
trivial to get around, not sure if I'm doing something wrong to not have any keywords for engage, or if it's something someone has to add upstream

OR, maybe it's something where I didn't RTFM, and it's an expected thing that I need to keep this keywords file updated on my own. Not a big deal to me

(currently using itask-ng - works lovely, but a few tiny nits that I'm sure will be ironed out over time)

EDIT: said fuck it, unloaded itask-ng, loaded engage, all smooth. Bugs are still there, though, if you decide to put engage anywhere but the bottom. You put it at the top, the reflections are gone, and there's a horizontal bar that goes across the entire width of the screen, maybe 10 pixels tall, muddying up your background. Put it on the right, and you have the same weird bar, AND hovering over items in the taskbar doesnt show the...tooltip? window name? Dont know what you call it.

So for now it's fine on the bottom. Overall E is being very good to me. Of course, I still keep KDE around as a failsafe in case anything goes catastrophically wrong with E_________________Lost configuring your system?
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Do we finally have full desktop support, where in the session is saved and restored just like KDE does? That was my pet peeve with enlightenment. I got sick of writing wrapper scripts to start the applications and placing them in the correct desktop.

Do we finally have full desktop support, where in the session is saved and restored just like KDE does? That was my pet peeve with enlightenment. I got sick of writing wrapper scripts to start the applications and placing them in the correct desktop.

EDIT: said fuck it, unloaded itask-ng, loaded engage, all smooth. Bugs are still there, though, if you decide to put engage anywhere but the bottom. You put it at the top, the reflections are gone, and there's a horizontal bar that goes across the entire width of the screen, maybe 10 pixels tall, muddying up your background. Put it on the right, and you have the same weird bar, AND hovering over items in the taskbar doesnt show the...tooltip? window name? Dont know what you call it.

it's not a bug. It is quite deliberate. I am pretty sure if you edit the theme you can enable that reflection bit even on top. Labels when put on the left and right edge of the screen are not supported in the code. It's probably not pleasant to code if you want to support both composite and non-composited desktops as engage does _________________emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using e from git | e18, e19, and kde4 sucks :-/

it's not a bug. It is quite deliberate. I am pretty sure if you edit the theme you can enable that reflection bit even on top. Labels when put on the left and right edge of the screen are not supported in the code. It's probably not pleasant to code if you want to support both composite and non-composited desktops as engage does

im not too fussed with the reflections. And the labels, well, I can live with that.

It's just the weird bar - a cosmetic defect for lack of a better term - whenever you have it anywhere but the bottom of your screen.

goes away if you move it to the bottom. Pixel mustache totally kills it.

engage on top shows the defect there, going horizontally
engage on left shows the defect vertically, about 3 inches from left side of screen
engage on bottom == no defect
engage on right == no defect

What i can gather, this is something engage is drawing in what is *supposed* to be a non-visible part of the screen.
Only, it assumes that if youre on the left or right side, the drawing should always go on the right (which means engage on right is fine, on left is not)
Or if you're on the top or bottom of screen, it should always go below (which makes bottom fine, but top not)

it's not a bug. It is quite deliberate. I am pretty sure if you edit the theme you can enable that reflection bit even on top. Labels when put on the left and right edge of the screen are not supported in the code. It's probably not pleasant to code if you want to support both composite and non-composited desktops as engage does

im not too fussed with the reflections. And the labels, well, I can live with that.

It's just the weird bar - a cosmetic defect for lack of a better term - whenever you have it anywhere but the bottom of your screen.

goes away if you move it to the bottom. Pixel mustache totally kills it.

engage on top shows the defect there, going horizontally
engage on left shows the defect vertically, about 3 inches from left side of screen
engage on bottom == no defect
engage on right == no defect

What i can gather, this is something engage is drawing in what is *supposed* to be a non-visible part of the screen.
Only, it assumes that if youre on the left or right side, the drawing should always go on the right (which means engage on right is fine, on left is not)
Or if you're on the top or bottom of screen, it should always go below (which makes bottom fine, but top not)

That shouldn't be happening. From that screenshot it looks like you are using composite in some form. Assumign that you are in fact runnign some form of composite, I think one or more of this is happening
1. you don't have Settings -> Advanced -> Engine -> Use ARGB on
2. you have the dropshadow module loaded.
3. Something wrong with the theme?

Also, it seems like that bar is on teh desktop and not on top of the dialog window you have opened. That shouldn't be happening too, since engage now has only two stacking options: Above all, and Below Fullscreen. So, it shouldn't be drawing something below the windows._________________emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using e from git | e18, e19, and kde4 sucks :-/

1. you don't have Settings -> Advanced -> Engine -> Use ARGB on
2. you have the dropshadow module loaded.
3. Something wrong with the theme?

Also, it seems like that bar is on teh desktop and not on top of the dialog window you have opened. That shouldn't be happening too, since engage now has only two stacking options: Above all, and Below Fullscreen. So, it shouldn't be drawing something below the windows.

#2 is the winner
unloaded dropshadow, issue went away - cheers for that.

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Hello,
I have a really stupid problem with e17. I just recently installed Gentoo and decided to use e17 for desktop. So I got SLiM, I got e17 from svn (that's how I am used to getting it so I decided I won't emerge it) and now when I boot and I log in with slim, after e17 starts, it freezes during the initial setup prompt! Right after I choose language and click next, it freezes. Checked x server logs and it doesn't seem to be the problem.
Is there some e17 log I can check? Or maybe someone got some idea what's wrong?

Try to look at /var/log/slim.log. Also, try with a fresh ~/.e directory. Try to use e17 through emerge. It is safer and less prone to errors. Finally, try to post at the E17 is coming thread instead of creating separate threads._________________emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using e from git | e18, e19, and kde4 sucks :-/

I'm using a hal-free system here, but for these reasons always had the hal USE flag enabled for e_dbus. Since some recent update, portage forces (-hal) on e_dbus, so no ehal module is built. In principle fine, I couldn't care less, but i.E. the e_places module still depends on ehal. Any ideas how to work around that, or just sit and wait for the updated modules?

Is there any way to circumvent that and why would portage force that kind of stupid behavior? just interested.