I would have to say after watching that video (and it seems to repeat after the first 7 minutes), I would NEVER buy that. Now, maybe that guy has no idea what he's doing, but the fact that it seems to oversheet and stall so easily isn't good. All that collapsing on itself while trying to relaunch is a dealbreaker. Maybe it's the best thing since sliced bread, but that video DEFINITELY doesn't support that. IMO.

SENDIT! wrote:I would have to say after watching that video (and it seems to repeat after the first 7 minutes), I would NEVER buy that. Now, maybe that guy has no idea what he's doing, but the fact that it seems to oversheet and stall so easily isn't good. All that collapsing on itself while trying to relaunch is a dealbreaker. Maybe it's the best thing since sliced bread, but that video DEFINITELY doesn't support that. IMO.

I agree with SENDIT. The video definitely doesn't show the Cloud's low wind potential.

A few months ago I was asking opinions on the Cloud on this forum. I am from Brazil and had to buy it without trying, because no one had it in my area (or maybe even in my country). I am super happy. Considering the things I like and dislike about the Cloud, it has proven itself a great purchase. I used to ride a 14 and 10 Switchblades, and I was always praying for stronger winds so I could ride the 10 instead of the 14. Now I replaced my 14 SB with the 13 Cloud and I am having as much fun and comfort with the 13 Cloud (or maybe even more) as I have with my 10 SB. That was a game changer to me.

But this is not the reason for this post. So far, I've been using my old Cabrinha's bar with the Cloud (with standard 24m lines). Now I am considering buying a new bar for my 13 Cloud (and for the next Cloud i'm gonna buy). I'm looking for suggestions. Maybe an adjustable bar would be great. What about lines length, what would you suggest for the Cloud?Anyone?

The wind speed looks to be really low, maybe 4 mph. The fact that the cloud is able to fly, reverse launch, relaunch is remarkable. Most other kites would just sit in the water. I agree that no one would be able to ride is such light wind.

SENDIT! wrote:I would have to say after watching that video (and it seems to repeat after the first 7 minutes), I would NEVER buy that. Now, maybe that guy has no idea what he's doing, but the fact that it seems to oversheet and stall so easily isn't good. All that collapsing on itself while trying to relaunch is a dealbreaker. Maybe it's the best thing since sliced bread, but that video DEFINITELY doesn't support that. IMO.

The guy is an expert at relaunch and is deliberately crashing the kite to experiment with relaunching in very light wind. He said it was difficult to get it out of the sky.
I did think the kite looked a bit underinflated but the owner said not.