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Saturday, December 29, 2012

Revelation 11:1-14:20

I pray that none of us are here on earth to witness this part of Revelation, it is frightening especially for those not saved. The scary part is some is already happening, so what a great bible study this would be, and to be prepared to answer questions to those who are skeptics. I have so many questions, and don't always know if I am interpreting Revelation correctly, and really want to gain knowledge in this area. Knowing there are so many thoughts, beliefs, interpretations, I did some research on my own. Much can be misleading so discernment is pivotal anytime you look for other interpretations, but found a couple very interesting and insightful and would like to know your take on this part of the book. So here goes....
These are 2 responses from "Christians" to questions from skeptics

I found much of the information here in #1 truthful, insightful, and learned some things I did not realize...
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#1-Yes, I believe that the apocalypse is a real thing. It is beginning to happen. Some of it already has.

Why don't you believe the whole Bible? The Bible is God's written Word to us.
It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit.

When reading the Bible, you need to ask who, what, why, where and when.

For an example, in Genesis, Moses was not there when God created everything. He wrote what God told Him to write, in the way that he could explain it. Which is why it appears like a fairy tale to some. If we had been there, we would have seen how real and awsome it was.

In the Revelation, John saw heaven. This was new to Him and there was no human way to explain some of the things that he saw and was told.

“Above all you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” 2 Peter 1:20-21. (New International Version)

39 Old Testament
Genesis- The creation of the world, sin, flood and birth of Israel
Exodus to Esther- History of the nation of Israel
Job to Proverbs- the books of poetry and wisdom
Isaiah to Malachi- Prophecy or foretelling of the future events to come.

27 New Testament
Matthew to John - Four Gospels representing the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ now with all authority in Heaven and earth.
Acts- Birth of the Church (The Bride of Christ)
Romans to Jude - Letters to the Churches
Revelations - The ultimate future plans for: The Church, Heaven, Hell, a New Heaven and a New Earth.

P.S. Hey Jan, you said
If you want to know about this mark and about who's who when Antichrist comes, check out Cain, Satans son. Oh, you think it weird that Cain is not Adams son? Check out Genesis 5:1, where the complete geneology of Adam is listed: you won't find Cain listed there, because Cain simply was not Adams son.

Genesis 4:1 says Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man. Later she gave birth to his brother Able. Can you come to my avatar for an explaination? God bless and thanks.

Yes, we are in the end times, prophecied when Judah returns and establishes an independent state (May 15, 1948); that begins the Generation of the Fig Tree, the final generation of this age.

However, you are confused with this mark of the beast. It is not a social security number, or a chip surgically placed into the hand; I don't care if they tattoo you from head to toe with "666", its not gonna change what you think or believe. The Mark of the Beast is IN YOUR FOREHEAD; whats in your forehead? Your brain. This "mark" is in the minds of all those deceived who believe that the Antichrist is the true Christ. Antichrist will come in prosperously and peacefully - he's gonna be disguised as Jesus, acting like Jesus; he'll be teacher/preacher/savior.
What is 666? Which teaching seal is regarding Antichrist? The 6th.
Which trumpet sounds that Antichrist is thrown out and onto earth? 6th. Which vial
concerns Antichrist? the 6th.
6th seal
6th trumpet
6th vial
Thats all; people make this much more complicated than it is: If only people would slow down, and read and learn in the simplicity that God teaches.
If you really want to understand the mark of the beast, here is a bit of information for you (I am a disiplined student of the manuscripts).
When you read "Count the number of the beast", that word "count" does not mean to count like 1-2-3-4 ; it means to enumerate over a long period of time, as when a rock is worn smooth by water running over it for a vast period of time. So what does that mean? It means that mark has a history, and if you check back in the beginning, you will see what the history of that mark is, and also a deeper study as to what God wants you to know about these end-times, and about the Antichrist and his entourage.
So where is the beginning of the mark of the beast? The Garden of Eden. When Cain murdered his brother and God threw him out, a mark was placed on him - the mark of his own father, the devil (yes, blood father, "sperma" in the manuscripts).
If you want to know about this mark and about who's who when Antichrist comes, check out Cain, Satans son. Oh, you think it weird that Cain is not Adams son? Check out Genesis 5:1, where the complete geneology of Adam is listed: you won't find Cain listed there, because Cain simply was not Adams son.
"Wormwood" is just another name for Satan (he has about 35 in the manuscripts)
and when it states that wormwood will fall, thats Antichrist getting booted out and onto earth - the death mentioned is spiritual death, not physcial death. People are already spiritually deader than a hammer,
but when Antichrist comes and the mass believe he is Jesus Christ, spiritual death will be in worldwide mass.
Anyway, I've been wordy enough........

#3-GOD's Word is true. And 666 is not a bar code. Satan comes in the 6th tumpet, 6th seal, 6th vial.

You will not be able to "buy and sell" in his beast system (Rev 13) unless you sign up to worship him. He will have a world wide credit card.

Wormwood is one of Satan's names. He is playing Jesus, and not out killing people. Waters are people Rev 17:15, and are made bitter because of Satan. But Satan is not here yet.

Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

1/3 of the people are killed a "spiritual death".

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Sun is symbolic of Chirst, 1/3 was darkened with deception.

Rev 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

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Have studied Revelations a few times and come away with not understanding much of it - knowing that from what I do understand - I am so thankful to be on His winning side! Knowing that it isn't important to know the "why's, whatif", etc. - to focus on what I do understand and grow from that. It creates an urgency in me to do as He commanded, to "snatch" from satan the lost. Sets my priorites in His order - more than they once were.

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