If We Don’t Fight For It, The Liberal World Order Is Going To Kill Our Way Of Life

By Michael Snyder, on June 6th, 2017

There comes a time when it becomes necessary to draw a line in the sand. When the early settlers came to America, they were desperate to find a place where they could live in freedom. And our Founding Fathers worked very hard to draft a Constitution that would guarantee that future generations of Americans would live in a nation where the freedom and liberty of the people were maximized. Unfortunately, the way of life that our founders sought to establish is slowly being killed off by the progressive agenda of “the Liberal World Order”. Just about every single element of their progressive agenda is diametrically opposed to the values and the principles that this country was founded upon. And if they ultimately get everything that they want, our way of life will be eradicated for good.

The term “Liberal World Order” is a phrase that is starting to be used quite frequently by the establishment. It was used by the Washington Post to describe Barack Obama’s final speech to the United Nations, and Vice-President Joe Biden used it during his speech at the World Economic Forum in January.

But of course it is a term that doesn’t just apply to Democrats. Many establishment Republicans also believe in the progressive agenda of the Liberal World Order, and that is why before Trump was elected nothing ever seemed to change very much in Washington no matter who was in power.

Sadly, the same thing is true all over the western world. The Liberal World Order dominates most of the major political parties in just about every industrialized nation, and they are very much accustomed to getting their way. That is one of the reasons why they hate Donald Trump with such a passion, because he is someone that they cannot fully control.

At this point, the Liberal World Order has almost complete control of our culture. In addition to dominating the political system, they also have a stranglehold on the media, on the entertainment world, on most large corporations, on our system of public education, and even on many of our largest religious institutions.

In the end, their goal is not to just win elections. I recently wrote that liberals hate “anyone that disagrees with them”, and even though they claim to be “tolerant” the truth is that they are some of the most intolerant people on the face of the planet. When Kathy Griffin held up a bloody mock ‘decapitated’ head of Donald Trump, it really was a picture of what they want to do to our entire way of life. They literally want to eradicate our worldview, and laws are slowly being put in place all over the western world that are moving us in that direction.

For the true believers in the Liberal World Order, government is a weapon to be used to achieve societal dominance. That is why so many of them are drawn to law school. I have often referred to law school as “seminary for liberals”, because that is essentially what it is.

Our legal system is absolutely infested with radical leftists from the top to the bottom, and that makes it a perfect tool for the left to advance their agenda. Whether it is abortion, gay marriage or any other issue, the left often finds that the easiest way to achieve their goals is by going through the court system.

True believers in the Liberal World Order also tend to believe that government is the answer to just about every problem. So central governments all over the western world have just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger.

But every time government gets bigger, we lose more freedom and liberty.

If you will think about this you will see that I am right. Today, there are hundreds of thousands of statutes, rules and regulations on the federal level. If you throw in all of the statutes, rules and regulations on the state and local levels as well, that brings the total into the millions.

Every law restricts freedom and liberty in some way. Of course in some cases this is a very good thing. For example, we don’t want the freedom to go around randomly murdering one another. But we certainly do not need millions of laws.

We are supposed to be “the land of the free”, but most Americans seem to have forgotten what that really means. If people want the government to tell them what to do every moment of every day, they can move to Europe. Our founders guaranteed us a nation where liberty and freedom would be maximized, and the Liberal World Order has stolen this from us.

And of course having an enormous government is very expensive, and so we get to pay very heavily for the privilege of being oppressed. I talk a lot about the income tax because that is one of my pet peeves, but that is only one of the taxes they hit us with. In a previous article I listed 97 different taxes that Americans pay each year, and when everything is all said and done there are some Americans that end up handing over more than half of what they earn to various governmental entities.

But our leaders don’t use the term “socialism” to describe what is being done to us, because the American people aren’t ready to accept that reality quite yet.

Unfortunately, the control freaks that dominate our government always want more. Our progressive politicians always seem to have another new tax up their sleeves, and earlier this year top Democrats in Congress proposed yet another payroll tax that would be taken directly out of our paychecks…

The Democrats plan, reintroduced in February by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D, N.Y.) and Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D, Colo.), is The FAMILY Act, which would create a national fund to provide workers with two thirds of their income for up to 12 weeks, no matter where they live or work. The Democrats’ proposal would be funded by employee and employer payroll contributions, averaging less than $1.50 per week for a typical worker.

One of the primary reasons why my wife and I originally moved up to north Idaho was because we wanted to find a place where we could live free without someone constantly telling us what to do. But we have come to realize that eventually the Liberal World Order is just going to take over everything if we don’t fight back. If the America that so many in previous generations fought and died to defend is going to survive, we must take action now.

So I am calling on every man, woman and child that can hear me to engage in a new American revolution. This isn’t a revolution with guns and bullets, but rather a non-violent cultural revolution that will be fought with votes, pens and keyboards.

We need to clearly communicate a vision for the future of America that is based upon the values and the principles that this nation was founded upon. Those values and principles once made us the greatest nation on the entire planet, and they can do it again.

We also need to wrestle as much political power away from the Liberal World Order as we possibly can. That means contesting Democrats and establishment Republicans on the federal, state and local levels. Even capturing a seat on your local school board can make a tremendous difference, and so I am encouraging as many people as possible to become politically active.

If we do not take a stand now, eventually there won’t be anywhere left for freedom-loving Americans and their families to go.

Just like with the original American revolution, there are no guarantees that we will win. At the time, very few could have imagined that the great British empire could have been defeated by a ragtag group of rebels, but it happened. And the Liberal World Order is most definitely a formidable foe, and it will not be taken down easily.

All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing.

So let us be strong and courageous, and let us rise up and fight for the future of our nation.

It’s not the Liberal world order. It’s the globalist new world order. Millions of proud Americans voted for President Trump because we are sick of establishment RINOs ruining the Republican party. I was talking to a fellow deplorable the other day that it was almost a twisted blessing that John McCain lost. Nobody would have voted republican for the next 20 years. Romney? Forget about it. President Trump is the right man in the right place in history. The libtard dems are cutting their own throats by being supporters of Islam. Day after day I see new terrorist attacks and day after day I see their apologists come out and make excuses. That idiot Susan Rice has the nerve to say that a travel ban won’t work because it will make Muslims feel like their not included. Who cares? They should feel that way. Throwbacks to a barbaric age have no place in western society. Their appeasement will lead to their downfall. Don’t these tards realize they will KILL you for being gay? Being a woman in a bathing suit? Just walking down the street unaccompanied by a man gives them the go ahead to rape them. And this fake Russia collusion scandal? This is a distraction from the REAL crimes. Seth Rich was murdered for leaking to Assange. That’s the truth. Hillarat is a corrupt lying btich. That’s why she lost the election. Not Russia. And if I was her I’d keep her big lying mouth shut. They are banking so hard on impeachment. Its not gonna happen. And if it did God help all these flag burning Trump hating Antifa POS. They will be pssing this pants when they have to engage millions of POd Deplorables. We are fighting and our support has not waviered.

socalbeachdude

Donnie Can’t Even Get Along with His Own AG…

Jeff Sessions ‘told Trump he would QUIT’ after angry president ‘lashed out repeatedly’ at attorney general over Russia probe

Donald Trump’s attorney general suggested he could quit after the president ‘lashed out’ at him, it was reported Tuesday night. ABC News said an angry Trump has attacked him in private.

There is nothing “fake” about that report at all, which has now been verified by multiple legitimate credible news sources.

newsel

See reply to snotty

kfilly

What do you consider to be credible news sources? CNN, ABC, Fox, NBC, or CBS are essentially state run. CNN got caught the other day faking Muslim rage against the latest terrorist attack in London. There is video footage of them lining up their “organic” protest. Other mainstream outlets from foreign countries are just as corrupt.

socalbeachdude

I don’t necessarily disagree on many stories and have been very critical of the New York Slimes, Clueless Nonsense Network, MessNBC, and others over the years, but that does not make them non-credible news sources for most news stories as to the facts. Where the big SPIN is on POLITICAL news stories.

SnodtBlossom

What’s wrong with ABC? Whose news is real?

newsel

Think about it for one minute – Sessions and DJT have been in lockstep through the primaries to the election going back to March 2016 when he named him Chairman of his national security advisory committee. This type “he said she said” of reporting I just have to question and yep, I call it FN.

LIZ THE SHIZ

drink that kool aid , ABC is a Disney production

MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

The “Liberal World Order” is just another way of saying it. Rather than using the term “New World Order”, the elite use terms such as “internationalism”, “global governance” and “liberal world order”. In the end, they are all one and the same.

Cinderella Man

Agree. But there not liberals they’re communists

socalbeachdude

The correct word is “THEY’RE” not “there” but, now, they’re not “communists” at all.

kfilly

Yes, they seem to be more fitting of the term National Socialists or more commonly called Nazi Paty.

JC Teecher

You had me until you called people paying into a system, that establishment politicians stole from them…a freebie.
Bull!

kfilly

Are you paying your taxes? If so, you are paying into the system. Yes, our corporate government is stealing from the people and resistributing the scraps of what it confiscates to the zero information voters.

William Lutz

I respect your theory. However, SS has very little to do with the collapse of our financial system. The American economy began crumbling more than a century ago, when Woody Wilson implemented the unconstitutional income tax and when the Fed was created at the same time. That is one real major reason why this country is toast. The year 1913 was when the first nail was hammered into the coffin, and the 2008 election of Obama was the very last straw that broke the camel’s back.

socalbeachdude

Yep.

Nick_McAvelly

Yes, these radical extremists have hijacked the concept of liberalism, and are pretending to be adherents of that political philosophy.

I wonder how many of them have even read John Stuart Mill’s “On Liberty” …

suggestion

Could you please put a limit on the amount of comments people are allowed to write? It’s tiring trying to scroll through all the comments with links. I think it’s ruining the overall blog experience. Thank you!

Bill

Couldn’t agree more.

socalbeachdude

Why don’t you try to LEARN something, and you do you have a scroll button on your mouse, don’t you?

LIZ THE SHIZ

I could read Drudge , the Daily Mail, WSJ and Zero Hedge on my own instead of the Socallednudebeachdude’s cut/copy/past report

SnodtBlossom

You could read?

socalbeachdude

But you don’t apparently from the extremely clueless and ignorant comments you put up, so why not? Can you read?

EndOfDays

You’re not all that Dude! Just an annoying little turd with nothing else to do inside Mom’s basement.

socalbeachdude

What utter bogus and false nonsense. I don’t even have a basement here in SoCal and my mother sadly passed away years ago.

EndOfDays

Southern California: the land of Fruits and Nuts and the Mentally Disturbed. That explains everything about you. Can’t wait for the Big One to break loose on the West Coast and take all of you morons, fruitcakes, sycophants and minions down. You people messed up a decent state (back in its day)…

socalbeachdude

What utterly ignorant stupidity from you.

Southern California is the most beautiful place in the world – and among the very wealthiest – with the best weather in the world and gorgeous places to live ranging from Beverly Hills to Malibu to Pacific Palisades to the Palos Verdes Peninsula and New port Beach, just to name a few.

California’s economy would be the 6th largest in the world if California were an independent country and is vastly larger than any other state in the USA.

MommaBear

Vastly larger? Have you seen a map? Sorry darlin but Alaska is the biggest state in the union.

SnodtBlossom

You’re still living w/mommy and spit-fire reverend daddy. When you go into the real world you will find that daddy’s brimstone talk won’t count for crahp.

EndOfDays

LOL! Is that all you got? Pathetic drivel and nothing more…

SnodtBlossom

Admit it’s the truth

SnodtBlossom

don’t let the screen door hit you

TOUJOURS DEMAIN

People here seem to like to be surrounded by people of like thoughts without any conflicting thoughts intervention.

It’s funny how people who live in a world inundated with ridiculous amounts rules and regulations want more rules limiting the amount of posts someone can make.

I think I will have some walnuts and raisins.

socalbeachdude

Very astute and very correct observation!

TOUJOURS DEMAIN

I couldn’t disagree more.

Cinderella Man

Socalbeachtard IS ruining this blog. The little triangle icon across from the screen name is block user.

SnodtBlossom

No Cinder, YOU ruin the blog
Cinder is a loathsome disgusting junkie cowboy wannabee

mark

who probably has never tried to commit suicide. Be humble.

SnodtBlossom

he seeks favor from those who don’t know him in real life because those who do know him in real life abandon him quickly

socalbeachdude

Yep, 100% true!

Lois Petersen

Thank you for that tip.

Marc

Just so you all know – this is the type of comment that is being removed by whoever: “Last year there were a number of people warning about a collapse. We all know there will be a collapse but virtually no one has been able to call it. So I take articles like this with a pinch of salt”. I had to edit out words like “expert” and this was meant for a previous article but I thought I would try again –
and for some reason it got through. I am finished with this site.

SnodtBlossom

“We all know there will be a collapse”
bogus..

Eileen Kuch

I agree with you !00%, Cinderella Man. What you said was sorely needed. Thank you.

TOUJOURS DEMAIN

This wouldn’t have anything to do with you strongly considering running for congress, would it?

aldownunder

At least he’s got the balls to do and say something with what he believes is wrong
Go start a countdown somewhere

TOUJOURS DEMAIN

I think he just likes to wear a suit. It makes him feel debonair.

JC Teecher

I like dapper when combined with debonair.
I like vanilla bean ice cream when combined with fresh, sliced, and slightly sugared, strawberries.

Looks like the liberal world order is trying to take over this blog too! With fake news! News that slanted, bias and not factual at all.

socalbeachdude

Huh?

John Galt

Liberalism means liberty. Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. are oligarchs/globalists or work for them. The Democrats followers are mostly self loathing weirdos of every kind, with a mostly left/marxist/socialist leaning, which appeals to fools, and also losers who are not necessarily stupid, but who do not care about anything and just want a handout. This is reality, and always has been thru the ages.

Not that all Republicans and conservatives are so great, but I have found thru my long life that they at least have some common sense. Most of the Democrats I have known, family, friends, have a mental problem with intellect and critical thinking, grown up children that hate authority, but at the same time want more government, which is an obvious contradiction.

Trying to argue with leftists is pointless. They hate themselves, you, and the universe, and thus are suicidal and dangerous.

John Galt

apeiron

Well stated John Galt…the early 20th century progressives hid behind the moniker ‘liberal’ after they’d ruined the name ‘progressive’ after their support & affiliation with European Fascism was exposed in the 30’s. Now they’re going back to progressive having stained & tainted the term liberal with identity politics & fomenting divisions of all kinds.

socalbeachdude

Huh?

socalbeachdude

Trump suggests border wall with solar panels

Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump suggested his oft-promised border wall could be covered in solar panels in a meeting with congressional leaders, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

Liberal World Order? Responsible for all the mess in America?
Ah such confusion. Micheal need to clarify, define exactly what he means by LWO. Then link key LWO policies to consequences.

Note LWO is not a term used anywhere in Europe, in Canada and S. America. Certainly not in Asia.

LWO is just one of a dozen such ideological terms used during the past 30 years in America to describe the latest fad, and assign the latest blame, to just about anything.

The policies of both major parties have failed. They have no idea how to fix their mess. The population is lost. Everybody is looking for blame. This is why we have Trump as POTUS. He is working very hard to become the American ‘Benito Mussolini’. And recall how El Duchy come to power in Italy back in the 1920’s when Italy was exactly like the U.S. today. But at least Mussolini offered a real alternative, a ‘solution’ to intractable problems. He called it fascism. And it worked, for a while. Remember how fascism even got Italian trains running on-time? Damn miracle. Remember how fascism worked so well even Hitler copied it.

Trump does not even have fascism. But he will be the Mad Cow in a China Shop. By China I mean the real China.

socalbeachdude

What do you mean by the “real China?”

tacoma

The real China is not China Shop. China Shop is used to describe the China of the past 2 decades or so where it was the low-cost low-tech factory of the western world. The ‘real’ China is emerging to go beyond the Shop. It will still have tons of factories, but it will increasing do originals based on its own R&D. It will lead to world leadership but definitely not the kind of America, not the kind of Europe which the Chinese hate. Leadership initiatives include AIIB, OBOR and others. Trump and the Deep State roles will be spoiler in China strategic plans. China is all ready for the Mad Cow. And his Mad Dog spilling military tough talk all over Asia.

socalbeachdude

The Chinese economic “death spiral”

China is now trapped in a debt death spiral. It cannot afford for growth to slow because that would cause unemployment, bankruptcies, and social unrest. But, it cannot continue growing without massive borrowing and spending programs.

This debt problem points to the third element in China’s growth formula, which is deflation. Persistent deflation and disinflation is caused globally by a combination of demographics, debt, deleveraging, and technology.

China is ground zero for global deflation because of its cost structure and its cheap currency that exports deflation to trading partners.

On the earlier visit to Nanjing, I met with provincial Communist Party officials who took me on a tour of a massive multi-city construction project with office parks, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, hotels, recreational facilities and transportation links for each of the cities. It was all empty.

When we returned for tea in the provincial officials’ offices, I asked how they expected to repay the debt used to fund the construction. The head official answered matter-of-factly, “Oh, we can’t repay it. Beijing will have to bail us out.”

Similarly, a Bloomberg reporter recently interviewed a Chinese bank customer who had just purchased a Wealth Management Products (WMP) from her bank. The reporter asked the customer if she was worried about the credit quality of the loans backing-up her WMP. She replied, “No, not at all. If anything goes wrong, Beijing will bail us out.”

This blind faith in Beijing’s ability to bail out every bad debt in the world’s second largest economy raises the question of Beijing’s willingness and ability to do so.

Higher interest rates will ultimately bankrupt Chinese companies and lead to higher unemployment and slower growth. Look for the Chinese banking system to weaken.

In less than six months, the yuan could finally undergo a maxi-devaluation.

China’s surging yuan defeats short-sellers by hitting a 6-month high versus the US dollar as the dust settles after Moody’s credit downgrade.

The corks should be popping on bottles of champagne at the People’s Bank of China, if Beijing’s policy goal was to defeat investors who dared to bet on a cheaper yuan after Moody’s recent downgrade of China’s sovereign credit rating.

If any speculative forces were attempting to short the yuan, the currency did indeed put them in their place by surging to a six-month high against the US dollar in the Hong Kong offshore market, aided by a behind-the-scenes push from China’s central bank. The Hong Kong offshore market is said to be more sensitive to market forces than its onshore counterpart.

As a result, the overnight yuan interbank borrowing rate has shot up to 42.8 per cent, an unhealthy sign for the yuan market. Beijing’s meddling in the yuan exchange rate also sends a signal that China is moving away from a promised “clean” floating exchange rate system.

“It is important to remember that China’s exchange rate is still fully in the hands of PBOC,” said Louis Kuijs, head of Asia economics research with Oxford Economics and a former economist with the World Bank. “At any point in time, the PBOC decides to what extent it wants to take market pressures into account as it sets the fixing rate and steers the spot rate. In that sense, China’s exchange rate is a solidly dirty float.”

Clearly your ideology of hatred on China have cloud your understanding of reality. You have made the same classic mistake all western analysts made over the past 30, 40 years on China. They have tried to understand China systems and policies using western, capitalist measures. Relying on western expert institutions. Their predictions and analysis fill thousands of volumes – ranging from epic societal collapse to great Chinese depression. From blowout of the ‘flawed’ gigantic Three Gorge dam to kill millions of flood victims to fiery destruction of its third rate poor’s man Moon rocket. From complete bankruptcy of China’s thousands of state-own enterprise to a wasteland of pollution fit for hell. And yes from massive collapse of its banking system to runaway inflation so severe even Zimbabwe admire.

All these analysis are wrong, all predictions failed miserably and so do you. To truly understand China you have to be educated Chinese. Deep understand of its history and cultures. I know non-Chinese who study China living in China for 20 years and still confused and confounded about how things worked contrary to their firm predictions.

China will continue to prosper mightily for the foreseeable future confounding all western predictions. You can take that to a bank, a Chinese bank that is. Take that to a Wall Street bank and you will get your Lehman treatment. And yes, all these same analysis and predictions on western mighty empire have also failed. They predicted great times, full recovery, but now we have collapse, steep unemployment, exits and fragmentation of alliances. China’s leadership is unquestioned, admired as confirmed by recent OBOR Summit in Beijing. America has Trump – say no more.

socalbeachdude

Huh? I have no “hatred” at all towards China, but it has GROSSLY ABUSED THE PROCESS OF MONEY CREATION over the past 10 years and has increased its money supply by more than $30 trillion from less than $3 trillion to more than $34 trillion with the value of its currency, the renminbi (RMB / yuan) NEARLY ENTIRELY PEGGED TO THE VALUE OF THE US DOLLAR with very minimal float which is CHEATING TO THE MAX in the global currency markets.

Now, that game is all coming CRASHING DOWN FOR THE EGREGIOUS MONEY PRINTERS INSIDE CHINA who have turned their currency into worthless monopoly money and created a sea of debt as far as the eye can see.

China has a huge debt problem. How bad is it?

Credit rating agency Moody’s downgraded China this week, warning that the country’s financial health is suffering from rising debt and slowing economic growth. It’s the first time the agency has cut China’s rating in nearly three decades.

Fears about debt levels in the world’s second-largest economy have been flagged before. The International Monetary Fund pushed Beijing to “urgently address” the issue last year.

Extreme panic has broken out inside the PBOC inside China over the past week. The PBOC (People’s Bank Of China) is the central bank of China and their equivalent to the Federal Reserve. The PBOC has jacked up the overnight interbank borrowing rate to 42.8% which is equivalent to the Federal Reserve raising the Federal Funds Rate which applies to overnight interbank borrowing up to 42.8%.

Many crises are going on inside the Chinese banking system and financial markets and that is where the epicenter of the global financial panic and collapses will be occurring which will affect the entire global economies.

Spicer insists $110 billion ‘arms deal’ with Saudi Arabia was ‘signed’ last month but Middle East expert says there are no new purchases at all – and White House official says ‘it takes months’ to hammer out details

The White House insisted on Tuesday that its boast of a $110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia is the real thing, after a noted foreign policy scholar called it ‘fake news’ and said U.S. defense contractors have nothing to show for it yet. ‘There is no deal,’ Brookings Institution Center for Middle East Policy senior fellow Bruce Riedel, who runs the organization’s intelligence project, wrote Monday. Spicer, however, said there are actual contracts in place – but later conceded: ‘I don’t know what was actually signed.’ Separately, a White House official told DailyMail.com on Monday that much of what Trump announced in Saudi Arabia was ‘prospective in nature.’

Ever wonder why the liberal elites have such compassion and understanding for the muzzies around the world?
They are being paid for one thing. Imagine all the money that got washed into the Clinton’s coffers from the various groups like the muzzy bros in the hood?
And of course they also know that the muzzies, overwhelmingly vote demoncrat, because they associate with anything or anyone that isn’t Christian.
Think about it. That is the epitome of a juxtaposition; a muzzy democrat.
Demoncrats are the largest single group that applauds and proposes to protect the rights of homosexuals, aka lgbtq peoples, and muzzies are all about killing those caught in such situations, as man on man, or woman on woman.
Then look at the women’s rights positions the dems take. Heck fire, half of the female dems consider themselves “feminists”. But; the muzzies say women have no rights, and in fact kill women for attempting to act like American women, much less have a say so about their lives.
The liberal world order is front and center, and it is not going away.
Just like tackling the federal reserve; it is a noble cause, and one that may have stood a chance about 50 years ago, but; today? Forget about it, cause it ain’t happening.

Too little too late. All the books and speeches, and articles and pleas, may raise a few dollars for someone’s pocketbook, but it is a fight against evil that begins in the foundations of the educational system.
Until people are able to change the educational system, which is where liberalism breeds, than the whole race is one in which the revolutionaries are just stirring up more dust and sucking down the liberals dust as they march off into the sunset of history, seemingly as winners.

Secondly; which should be primarily, but in all reality, the educational brainwashing must stop first, there needs to be a spiritual/moral revival across America. The moral compass is stuck, and it is pointing south, as in deep underground south towards the bottomless pit.

So, we should be thankful for our situation if we have decent food, clothing and shelter, and seek the Lord, and all He has foretold. For He is the only Saviour we will have, that can bring a close to the LWO.

what happened to your other post about socal did you remove it or was it deleted?

JC Teecher

It was deleted, but not by me, so freedom of speech does not apply when it comes to the class pet.

aldownunder

Unbelievable
wasn’t a thing wrong with that post and yes he has completely taken over the ECB comments section to a point that is way beyond a joke

Cinderella Man

Block his retarded azz. Nothing bothers an attention whore more than being irrelevant.

JC Teecher

I have him on block CM, but I open one up when I see he directly replies to my comment, and I keep records.
He is a nuisance and has been for a long time, much less that he is a two faced liar.
I can’t stand two faced people. he is this way one day and another way the next, and keeps up the same ole junk that runs off new folks that have an interest learning.

aldownunder

Yeah he’s got a lot of lovin for banks especially the Fed and ins. co’s
Makes you wonder doesn’t it

JC Teecher

YEP!

socalbeachdude

Banks are what make the economies of the world function and have tens of trillions of dollars of depositors funds. Healthy banks are a very good thing.

Cinderella Man

Absolutely. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Let alone he has split personalities in the form of Twaatblossom and Realist. He’s so stupid that he actually thinks he’s fooling people into believing he’s different people. I’ve been on this blog so long I remember when he went by socalbeachrealist

JC Teecher

Amen, brother.

socalbeachdude

Absolutely false.

socalbeachdude

Obviously, ACTUAL FACTS AND NEWS AND INFORMATION are a “nuisance” to you.

aldownunder

Yes I think it’s time

JC Teecher

I don’t see why “you know who” can’t see that he is, and has been, running new readers and posters off this site.
It is about time for me to “move the sawmill”.

aldownunder

wow you are being deleted all over the place
talk about unbridled biases

aldownunder

it’s about time “you know who” did something about it even limiting the number of posts per person for each article

aldownunder

77756 comments • 100936 votes
Way beyond a joke

JC Teecher

I will believe it when I see it, but it will most likely have to come down to numbers standing together and threatening to leave before he will do anything.
I have seen his types ruin sites before, and sometimes they never rebound to previous times of high activity.

One site I was on for over five years allowed a meth crazed atheist to continually post and condescend Christians. He even threatened me with bodily harm, if I would meet him and the site owner did nothing.

I told the site owner he would suffer the consequences of allowing him to continue and allow the bashing of Christians.

After a few months, the site fell from an average of 500 comments per article to about 50. And from about 50 regular posters to about a dozen.

aldownunder

Well if ever there was a time to do something it’s now
It’s way beyond a joke and mostly way off topic

Cinderella Man

That’s why I’ve been away on the economic articles. The blowhard is ruining this site. I spend most of my time on the pro Trump groups on Facebook. You can actually swear at the lefties when they run their mouths on there. I’m nice on here compared to my other places I like to congregate online.

socalbeachdude

And how does that sort of bad behavior help with anything at all?

JC Teecher

I am in the process of starting a website where like minded people can chat and voice their opinion about America’s problems and such, without having to scroll over a ridiculous amount of nonsense spewing like comes from the mouths of fartblossom, sandlapper dude, and the God and Christian hating compadre’ of their’s, that goes by Carl.

It will be open to all that behave without bashing Christians and -ewish peoples all the time, but I will not allow such scum as forked tongue loving snotty.

It may take a while as I am in the drawn out process of relocating to another state as well.

You CM,and aldownunder, and many others on here will be welcomed with open arms.

socalbeachdude

Retreating into a little tiny den of ignorance would no doubt be the best thing for you and those who choose to wallow in ignorance without anyone dealing in reality and facts disturbing your karma in any way!

awb22

I just blocked you know who, and it’s breath of fresh air. The other you know who needs to stop ignoring the problem.

socalbeachdude

Ignorance to you is apparently bliss!

irritated

You’re right. I have been taking more breaks from checking and writing comments on this blog. It’s actually been sort of a blessing in disguise. I really enjoyed the comments section, not so much anymore.

socalbeachdude

News stores are unlimited and so is the white space here in the comments where thousands of comments can be posted.

socalbeachdude

False.

socalbeachdude

Nope.

SnodtBlossom

I hacked in and deleted it 🙂

socalbeachdude

!!!

socalbeachdude

Other than the fact that it was nothing other than a mindless ad hominem attack with absolutely zero substantive content!

Cinderella Man

The libtards are fools cuz the muzzrats are taking advantage of their naivete in order to take over. The only thing stopping us from being conquered like the Brits and French is millions of gun owning constitutional loving patriots that will be waiting for them when they try to make jihad on our shores. That’s what makes the lefttards so dangerous. They are like sheep trying to defang the guard dogs protecting them from the wolves.

JC Teecher

You got it, now we need to convince the other 250 million brainwashed souls.

SnodtBlossom

JCT’s wives sleep with other men

socalbeachdude

Wives? Is he Mormon?!!!

aldownunder

The above comment by SnodtBlossom is totally unacceptable on any level and the fact you up voted it…… you should be ashamed of yourself

Cinderella Man

They’re the same person

James

Very sad and pitiful that you upvoted snodtblossom’s comment about JCT’s wife. Truly disgusting.

aldownunder

This comment should be deleted
Way out of bounds …….you should be ashamed of youself

Totally out of bounds and the comment should of been deleted hours ago

SnodtBlossom

but it’s true

Gay Veteran

“…Demoncrats are the largest single group that applauds and proposes to
protect the rights of homosexuals, aka lgbtq peoples, and muzzies are
all about killing those caught in such situations, as man on man, or
woman on woman.
Then look at the women’s rights positions the dems
take. Heck fire, half of the female dems consider themselves
“feminists”. But; the muzzies say women have no rights, and in fact
kill women for attempting to act like American women, much less have a
say so about their lives….”

liberals are hypocrites. why do you think they didn’t condemn Obama’s war crimes?

socalbeachdude

‘Kill them all’: Republican congressman who’s been married four times and is dubbed the ‘Cajun John Wayne’ says ‘all of Christendom’ is at war with ‘heathen’ radicalized Muslims

Rep. Clay Higgins, a Republican representing Louisiana, has come under fire for a Facebook post he wrote in response to the London terror attacks this weekend. In the post, Higgins wrote that ‘all of Christendom’ is at war with ‘Islamic horror’. He said that every single radicalized Muslim should be hunted down and killed. The post drew widespread criticism on Facebook, with many users calling his sentiments hate speech and genocidal. Higgins, an Army veteran and former police officer, was elected to Louisiana’s third district in December.

Obama delivers a new veiled slap at Trump as he warns that America could descend into ‘extreme nationalism and xenophobia and the politics of us-versus-them’

Former U.S. president Barack Obama delivered a extended, vicious coded critique of his successor Donald Trump without naming him, but the audience of 6,000 people got the joke. He bashed the rise of ‘extreme nationalism and xenophobia and the politics of “us-versus-them”,’ a clear slap at Trump in the preferred language of American liberals. Obama seemed to characterize Trump’s ‘America First’ philosophy as an abandonment of international institutions – a belief that ‘what’s good for me and my immediate people is all that matters. Everybody else is on their own.’

Trump just made the “world tour”…things are shaping up…watch the key…Israel…God’s timeline is shorter than most think…

Keep looking up…

chekmate2

I just had a comment blocked. I have no idea the reasoning behind it, however it’s the second I’ve had blocked. I’m done. It seems that your site has no room for reasoned discussion. Bye Bye.

aldownunder

did it have anything to do with socalbeachdude?

awb22

don’t you mean socalbeachbum?

Cinderella Man

Socalbtichdude

awb22

socalbiotchbum, there, I fixed it for you.

“This user is blocked” – ahh, the sweet sound of silence.

socalbeachdude

What does SSL have to do with anything?

SnodtBlossom

I’ve hacked in and deleted it 🙂

socalbeachdude

!!!

awb22

Sure you did.

LIZ THE SHIZ

you are a hack

Marc

Agreed man. So did I. But all kinds of bigoted, hateful and derogatory comments are allowed. I am also done.

aldownunder

25 of 57 comments so far from socal and most if not all totally off topic

socalbeachdude

No, they are not “off topic” at all. Get a clue, dude.

ISA41:10

That’s because liberalism is a mental disorder!!!

J.j. Cintia

What if everything in life was free? You were free to just take anything you wanted. People could do anything they wanted. Everything was OK and anyone who could would.
What do you call that? THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE.

socalbeachdude

BREAKING: Banco Popular, one of Spain’s largest banks is on the brink of failure and has been put under review by the ECB and its share trading halted and suspended as of the opening of the Spanish stock market this morning. The ECB said that Banco Popular is likely to fail as deposit withdrawals grow and is facing more than $37 billion in bad loans on its books. It is not known what Spanish banking authorities will do, but it appears they are urging Spain’s largest bank, Santander, to raise capital by issuing more stock shares to attempt to take over Banco Popular.

socalbeachdude

Qatar, the world’s wealthiest country by per capita income and assets, has just been cut off from trading by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as backlash continue to grow between it and other Arab States and the United States over Qatar’s alleged support for and funding of terrorist activities.

Kevin

My computer got malware after clicking on one of socalbeachdude’s hyperlinks.

socalbeachdude

Absolutely false. Every single link is to a highly reputable news source. If you had any problem with any particular link at all, please identify it. Or by “malware” do you mean real news information just as described in my comment?

Cinderella Man

Yeah cuz he’s a POS. I tried warning others a while ago that his links are loaded with malware and possibly spyware. He’s a paid Soros still.

socalbeachdude

Why put up such blatantly false and stupid LIES?

HeyAHuman

The most sensible conclusion that I can come up with is that socal is a hired shill. Think about it… Who else can spam outside links freely like that? The posts ALWAYS get flagged and deleted… unless it’s socal. Why would this random person… who speaks like a true journalist, inserting his own sensational titles above the articles… show up out of the blue and spend all of his time on this blog? Why the article/link spamming? It clearly isn’t a natural occurrence.

He’s a provocateur hired by the owner of this site.

socalbeachdude

Laughably and totally false. What I post are key breaking and highly important information from highly credible news articles as well as original content with facts and analysis related to key news issues related to the unfolding ECONOMIC COLLAPSE in the US and globally. And that is all done on a PRO BONO BASIS for the enhancement of knowledge for all readers here. News is a rapid fire 24 hour process and key information is unfolding faster than ever now in this constantly accelerating information age.

Carl

Damn straight SoCal and the mainstream media can’t even adapt and catch up with it. I always laugh when my local news does a news story on something I read about online a week or more ago.

It seems making an effort and reporting the news are two different things. So sad that the old dogs can’t adapt. Most local news is canned news anyway and the nightly news is a joke. Just 1 minute infomercials disguised as news a lot of time.

Cinderella Man

Why don’t you suck socal off already. You two are the ambiguous gay duo

LIZ THE SHIZ

Pro Bono because no one would give you a penny for your regurgitated headlines

socalbeachdude

What utter nonsense as usual from you.

Bill

A possibility for sure. Could they both be working for the same globalist who is attempting to identify his enemies by collecting info on commenters…..

Bill

Is silence by the author self incrimination?

socalbeachdude

Huh?

socalbeachdude

Absurdly false and incredibly bogus assertions!

ISA41:10

Just when you think the left can’t get anymore stupid they do, lib-turds will never ever fail in entertaining us with their stupidity.

socalbeachdude

FORCED SALE OF ILLINOIS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS…

Illinois is in a serious bind. The road to perdition has been well lit, and signposted. 8 downgrades in 8 years for the General Obligation (GO) liabilities of the state, with another drop down to junk likely as soon as July 1st, the beginning of their 2018 “fiscal” year. The unfunded pension liability of Illinois’ five state plans now exceeds US$130bln. IL State now has the lowest funded pension percentage (ranging from 37.5% to 44.2%) of all 50 states.

Each Illinois taxpayer is on the hook for almost $50,000 in unfunded liabilities (pensions and post retirement health benefits). Illinois is the 5th most populated state in the union at 12,800,000, for reference. Same ranking for income (for now). Illinois has proposed a 20% privilege tax on investment management services (read; hedge funds) which was tabled in February 2017, approved by the House Revenue and Finance Committee in March and if enacted becomes effective July 1, 2017. The taxation of carried interest is highly topical at both the Federal and State level presently with both NY and NJ considering similar legislation (CT and FL are gladly accepting hedge fund refugees at the time of publication).

In addition to the pension woes, Illinois has not passed a balanced budget for 3 years in a row, as required under their constitution. This has resulted in the untenable situation whereby the state has accumulated $14.5bln in “accounts payable”, on which they will owe $800mm in interest and fees as of June 30, 2017. The cascade effect (i.e. it rolls down hill) has been very damaging. Chicago Public Schools (CPS) are owed nearly 1/2 billion from the state ($467mm to be exact) and must resort to “Grant Anticipation Notes” to bridge the funding gap created. CPS are hoping to keep the cost below 8% which is the usury cap in effect for some school budgets.

The same negatives that sent Puerto Rico (importantly not a State, technically a Protectorate https://ibankcoin.com/firehorsecaper/2016/04/10/puerto-rico-the-spoils-of-war/) on tilt recently are evident in Illinois as well, namely rampant crime and failing schools. Many schools are years behind in even tabulating scoring tests, which would be required to confirm their bottom quartile performance. To rival the record for shootings in Chi-town you have to go very far afield to places like Kabul.

EXCLUSIVE: London Mayor trying to block Trump’s visit to Britain shared platform with London Bridge attacker’s ‘close friend’ who ‘trained one of the 7/7 bombers’

Sadiq Khan attended a conference with one of the London Bridge murderers’ close friends who is accused of training one of the 7/7 bombers, MailOnline can reveal. The London Mayor spoke on the same platform as Sajeel Shahid, a militant who is said to have helped to train the ringleader of the July 7 London bomb attacks.

It emerged today Shahid was gym buddies with killer Khuram Butt, who butchered seven people in the deadly rampage on the capital’s streets on Saturday night. The pair once ran martial arts classes together at the all-Muslim Ummah Fitness gym in east London.

The Muslim threat is very real, friends. Sharia Law is infecting the West, you would be amazed. This is a religion that has the death penalty for leaving the faith, that practices clitorectomy, where a man can have 4 wives and the legal right to beat and kill his women, yet women have pretty much no rights of divorce. No freedom of thought for anyone. And the liberal bleeding hearts want to give them a big hug and a sloppy wet kiss as they throw the doors open wide.

socalbeachdude

Yep, and that is even more true in Europe than the USA.

JC Teecher

Possibly the only true statement presented by sbd in a long while.

Paul Patriot

The threat is real sadly people are asleep,.I mentioned the agenda of Islam a few weeks ago in church and sadly was attacked by two “brothers” one is a “highly degreed” engineer from Europe, so I didn’t expect much free thinking from him to begin with the other was a not so educated, red neck type, kept telling me to have an open mind and not read only one thing.

Thing is I have studied the Quran and the hadith and sharia, so in other words actual Islamic teaching, and am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt , that if Islam gains the “upper house” in America, freedom is gone, and it will be impossible to reverse

Wake up people, learn about what is really happening, and earn about the “religion of peace” and how it quietly invades a nation and slowly transforms a society into a sharia nation.?

What’s happening in Europe is coming to America real soon(infiltration already begun) if we do not wake up soon, stop !listening to propaganda, think for ourselves, stop being politically correct, and stand up for liberty.

JC Teecher

Studies have shown, time and time again, that only about 14 to 16% of islum followers are actually dedicated to the peace loving part of the religion. The other 85%, whole heartedly and unshakably follow the Sharia law part of the korran.

That is why the liberals, liberal followers, liberal crusaders, aka the LWO/NWO, want Sharia law to overtake America and it’s Christian based mandates and laws, because based on Sharia, all Christians will be silenced.

It ain’t happening!

Paul Patriot

Amen! Thank you for your comment!

SnodtBlossom

The fallacy in your argument is that liberals are the ones opening the doors to Muslim threat when it is more of a tango of two sides. Rightwing nutjobs side up w/Muslim radicals all the time.. However, while the radicals create a catharsis for repressed chauvinism/sexism, they are quick to bite the hands that feed/allow them.

Fed Up

So WHY are our women and especially, our Feminazis so quiet about this?

Gay Veteran

“…that practices clitorectomy….”

try female genital MUTILATION

Bill

Up vote here to ban the dude.

socalbeachdude

Get a clue, dude, and attempt to learn something! The article above as well as a number of the comments below offer a great deal of information to learn about. Don’t you have something constructive to say about any of that?

apeiron

Blocked long ago…if one wants to contribute so much information, perhaps they should have their own blog instead of dominating a comment section with reams of content. Keep it concise & generally on point in comment sections…it’s only polite.

socalbeachdude

What is polite is to not put up useless snarks!

JC Teecher

I don’t see anyone coming to his defense after the 12 votes for sending him into the trash bin.
There is always snotty and Carl.

SnodtBlossom

This is a blog, not a popularity contest.. at least not in my book

JC Teecher

And the majority rules. and the majority does NOT care what is in your book.
You have made your bed here fartblossom, so lie in it with sbd, and reap the cursings of which you so richly deserve.

SnodtBlossom

Decided to read me huh, keeper of hoars?
Where do you get off saying majority rules? This blog belongs to Discus and the author is a secondary administrator.

chilller

“There’s a lot to lose by doing nothing…and nothing to lose by doing a lot.”

Bill

Sometimes ignoring a problem “doesn’t” make it go away; especially when the problem craves attention….

socalbeachdude

That is particularly true when it comes to the US government deficit of more than $1 trillion this year which will result in a federal debt of more than $21 trillion within just a few months as the deadline for the Fiscal 2018 budget rapidly approaches! But that is exactly what Congress is doing, isn’t it? And Trump is trying to make that problem MUCH WORSE by trying to put in tax cuts at a time when federal government revenues need to be very substantially increased.

socalbeachdude

The most laughably bogus bubble out there right now is so-called “crytocurrencies” with the poster child for such manic speculative idiocy being intrinsically worthless BitCon which is headed for a massive collapse.

This site is really getting a bit corny.Why not stick to economic issues instead of the wingnut blather that old pastey people like to talk about over checkers.Not all need spiritual guidance,can do it oneself.Instead focus on what trump is doing in the name of enriching himself and family.It’s front and center,can’t miss it.

JC Teecher

You are the type of person this article is all about.
The liberal mindset and eternal ideology has taken America into a very dark period of time, and you liberals love it. You are so blinded that you can’t see the destruction that you have birthed upon a once, totally Christian based, free nation. Not all were Christians that helped to bring this Nation into being, but the majority were, Now, the LWO wants to reverse that, and take America to a Third World Nation, where socialism/communism rules the day, and Christianity is returned to the cellars. You Clinton lovers seek to bash, and impeach (if it were possible), the most patriotic potus this nation has seen since Teddy Roosevelt. Why is that?
Because; at the very core of Liberalism, is evil. Maybe not the whacking off of heads kind like the muzzies love and want, but it is still evil to kill the unborn and promote a Sodom & Gaymorrah lifestyle thru our educational systems.

You want to put the LGBTQ community, along with muzzies, on a pedestal/podium/ bully pulpit, and cheer them, while pushing Christians into dark cellars to be hidden away.

Any society that is not directly rooted with the foundations for living, by their Creator; is a nation that will come to ruin.

The gates of the courts of God are about to be opened, and whether you like it or not, it will happen, and judgment will come upon this land, and the world.

So sip your kool ade laced with demonic juice, and grin like a snake about to devour a mouse, for there is about to come a day of judgment, and the drinking and supping of evil will not be a good position to be standing up for.

Carl

“Not all were Christians that helped to bring this Nation into being, but the majority were.”

So which christians were responsible for the murder of Native Americans?

JC Teecher

Your ancestors, that “claimed” to be Christian, but were of the synagogue of Satan.

ollie173

YUK…YOU ARE SICKENING!

JC Teecher

Yea, evil demonic worshipers always say that about us Christians.
get a grip olly, we win in the end, you and Carl lose.

Carl

Exactly what do you win? An earth where there is no sin and death and no free will (the reason christians claim there is evil in the world)?

So my question again is if taking away sin, free will, knowledge, etc is the end game of this god fellow. Why bother with all this? Why not skip ahead and get to the good part?

Perhaps it is because said good part does not exist.

Cinderella Man

I can’t wait till the muzzrats get a hold of you. You attack Christians constantly. Tell me Carl was it a Christian who blew himself up at the Airana Grande concert? Running over people with vans and trucks? Shooting up nightclubs killing Gays? Nope.all you do is bring up the past. But boy I wish we would stop turning the other cheek. Crusades will return. And you will be begging us to help your cowardly azz.

Carl

What we hear in the news is not always the truth. Question everything or be led by the nose. No doubt they are using the muslims and the fanatical ones to commit evil acts. But one has to wonder who radicalized them to the point of committing mass murder? Who gains from it? Or is it just random?

What I do is not an attack on christianity. I consider it a rebuttal on black and white thinking that many christians have. While the past is in the past the seeds of said past are still right here in the present.

Turning the other cheek does not mean turning a blind eye to evil.

Nor does forgiveness mean you should allow evil doers to go unpunished.

The crusades were about power, control and money. Same as the muslims are controlled by an old religion and old mullahs who wield the power.

My job is to get people to think. Hate me for it that is your choice, but know that without questioning we are all just blindly following the orders of madmen and women.

Cinderella Man

Your stupidity is astounding. Now you deny the Orlando nightclub shooting?

Cinderella Man

YUK…YOU ARE A BTICH

Cinderella Man

Which Muslims are responsible for murdering innocent citizens across the globe…answer all of them. Cowardly Carl is at it again. Too afraid to challenge the jihadis.

Carl

Yes all religions are evil. I agree completely. All governments are evil. I agree completely. It is normal people in all countries that suffer because of religious fanatics and war mongering governments.

Taos61

Snake handling can be dangerous.When I was a kid,they called people with your mindset “holy rollers”.Some things just don’t change.

socalbeachdude

It’s hard to understand by JCT keeps bringing up his hate for gay folks in our society.

JC Teecher

Once again you lie, I have never said I hate gays. Prove it obi wan kenobi of the ECB.

You can’t because I have never said such.
My uncle was Bi, and i loved him very much. I do not care what people do in their bedrooms.

What I do care about is what God cares about, and brainwashing little children into believing that God is not against sodomy and gay marriage is what I hate.

Gay Veteran

nah, you’re just OBSESSED with Teh Gays

“…brainwashing little children into believing that God is not against sodomy and gay marriage is what I hate.”

your type opposed inter-racial marriage, based on the Bible of course

JC Teecher

Yea when I was a kid I had the commonsense to know that a Rattlesnake had not been able to read the bible, so therefore they could and would bite the pizz out of fools that handled them.
Some of those fools were bitten and died as well.

I also knew from a visual experience that a snake has the ability to “charm” the innocent and ignorant little birds into striking distance, and then…..

…..well the snake serpent is still charming idiots into into his trap, of which you are right there for easy pickings, when he strikes. And, he will.

Paul Patriot

I do agree with standing up and fighting till the end, but, the Bible promises a one world system is coming, and with the amount of convergence, political, economical, etc that is occurring, we can see the stage being set more now than ever.

I am not saying to sit back and do nothing, just kjeep in mind, America is most likely past the point of no return, and the global agenda is not only prophecied, but is far bigger than most understand.

The best thing to do is get your spiritual life in order as you stand up and fight.

Carl

God is not religious.

Gina

No merciful God could have possibly created humans.

Cinderella Man

Well then remove yourself from this mortal coil Gina. If you hate humanity hate yourself. Ask your doctor if suicide is right for you!

JC Teecher

That is too easy, they need to see the tribulations and then see how haughtily they spew their anti-god message around.

Carl

And there it is. The proof that the old testament is a man made construct of god. We are made in the image of god because we created our gods and imagine them to be just like us.

Carl

I agree. If you take the “sin” (as the reason) out of the equation for why the world is the way it is and just look at creation it is a pretty sick setup.

Every single living thing needs to feed off something else to survive.

Everything.

This in itself is evidence that something is very rotten with the supposed creator.

socalbeachdude

Where do you come up with such false nonsense?

Bob

The Greek philosophers said the only true freedom consists of having a minimum of needs and wants. On this statement, all of us need to reflect.

Carl

“There comes a time when it becomes necessary to draw a line in the
sand. When the early settlers came to America, they were desperate to
find a place where they could live in freedom. ”

It’s too bad they had to murder a group of Native Americans to find their freedom. But I guess them darn Indians had it coming to em.

I wish people would stop romanticizing American history and the past. Because it is not a pretty picture when you actually know what our freedom loving ancestors did to those them deemed expendable.

ollie173

100% CORRECT! THE AMERICAN SETTLERS SLAUTERED THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS, ENSLAVED, SEVERLY MISTREATED AND HELD-DOWN THE AFRO-AMERICANS, AND DEMONIZED ALL WHO DID AND DO NOT AGREE WITH THEIR TWISTED WAY OF THINKING, NOT TO MENTION WHAT THEY DID TO WOMEN AND THE POOR…SHAME ON THEM! SMH

Cinderella Man

You and Carl are both dumb fcuks. Quick to bring up old crap from long ago that has no relevance today. I’m part Native American and you two don’t speak for us. Typical of your type to feign outrage for something you have no part in. Christianity is not the problem. The raghead throat cutters are.

ollie173

Typical of Christian hate mongering!

Cinderella Man

I do hate people like you

socalbeachdude

Very sad and very pitiful and pathetic.

ollie173

That’s the very heart of the problem…you and other people like you have so much HATE for others…SMH…and you people call yourself Christians…you can’t begin to behave like a true Christian with all of that hate! LOL

Cinderella Man

Hate makes me powerful

Carl

Interesting argument. Does it really make you powerful or is that your ego talking?

ollie173

NO…IT WILL BE YOUR DEMISE!

Carl

While christianity technically is NOT the problem right now. In the past jews murdered under the order of yaweh, “christians” under the guise of the Catholic church were very much a problem and a murderous bunch at that. Now in 2017 it is mulims enacting terror and trying to force their religion down the throats of the people. 100 years from now it will be another religion. A hundred years from then it will be yet another. Point being it never, ever stops. The only thing that changes are the names.

Cinderella Man

You’re full of siht Carl. Islam is by FAR the most dangerous religion. It’s too bad the crusaders didn’t finish them off in the middle ages. Oh well work to do I guess

socalbeachdude

There you go with more hate speech.

JC Teecher

No person in their right mind would say the Native American Indigenous peoples were “expendable”.
Most would agree that evil men, mostly in gov and military at that time, were not Christians, whether they claimed to be or not. That ship has sailed.

But you liberals will use any case of injustice you can dig up to justify the killing of innocents in the womb, and the proliferation of the LGBTQ agenda, via indoctrination of more innocents through the educational systems.

When our Heavenly Father set his mandates, statutes and laws for life, he also said that killing of innocent children and sodomy was prohibited.
When He killed innocents along with their parents for His purpose, we don’t have a say, as we are not gods, and own nothing but “freewill” to do good or evil.
He says he is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, so political correctness hasn’t, even if by majority rule, does not ever “legally” circumvent God’s law, but brings damnation and judgment upon societies that try to make “justifications” for their sins.

The LWO crowd is setting up America for harsh judgment, and 50% of the Christian Church people of today are a part of that, as they have accepted the pc mantra that God accepts all homosexuality and abortion rights. Those are lies propagated by establishment religionists, and there will be hell to pay for it.

Carl

YOU SAID: “Most would agree that evil men, mostly in gov and military at that time,
were not Christians, whether they claimed to be or not. That ship has
sailed.”

NO that ship has not sailed. Not even close. Also I and I am sure many others can really do without the TRITE – they weren’t really christians nonsense that is spewed when supposed christians do really evil and immoral things. Especially since in your other comment you bragged about how our government and said representatives were christian. So where were the christians in our government when these things were going on? Sitting and praying and doing nothing?

Christians want to have it both ways. Saying in one breath that the country was christian and in another breath when evidence pointing to the sins of our founding fathers is laid bare stating that well those people really weren’t christian. Which is it?

YOU SAID: When our Heavenly Father set his mandates, statutes and laws for life,
he also said that killing of innocent children and sodomy was
prohibited.

That did not stop your dear old heavenly father from slaughtering INNOCENT babies and children in the old testament. But I know – gods ways are not are own and he was just taking care of business.

YOU SAID: When He killed innocents along with their parents for His purpose, we
don’t have a say, as we are not gods, and own nothing but “freewill” to
do good or evil.

Yet god did NOT kill the innocents in the old testament (with the exception of the re-imagined story of the flood). He had man do his slaughtering for him.

If god never changes then he should be slaughtering people who are worshiping false gods even today. Yet there is no mass slaughter by god to punish anyone.

Christians can cherry pick all they want about gays and abortion. But according to your god ALL sin requires the penalty of death.

If god did not want abortion he should have made procreation a little more difficult. Perhaps he needs to get to work on a new 4.0 human being after he has ironed out all the mistakes he made with this generation of people.

While I do not agree with abortion. I also understand why it happens and the societal pressures women face from the men who got them pregnant, family, friends, expectations in life, etc. Not to mention society as a whole who mock single mothers and complain about having to support them with tax payer dollars.

You want to stop abortions. Start with the people who are already living and appreciating ALL life not just the lives of the unborn. The unborn grow up to be said adults many on this blog have criticized and marginalized and despised.

Personally I do not care what god accepts and what he doesn’t accept. I don’t accept that he required hundreds of thousands of animals to be slaughtered. Nor that he ordered millions to be murdered because they worshiped another god. That’s his problem. Maybe he should man up and deal with it himself instead of having lowly humans do his slaughtering for him.

Gina

Carl you are so right. Thanks for all your contributions. I couldn’t have said it any better.

Cinderella Man

Carl is a btitch

JC Teecher

You are just being polite.

SnodtBlossom

Cinder is a junkie

JC Teecher

I’d love to be a fly on the wall, when all that rant and mockery is read back to Carl, while he is on his knees begging for forgiveness, after it is too late.

and you too Gina, because you have agreed with his mockery and slander towards your Heavenly Father, that gave you life. Oh yea, sbd as well, and anyone else that agrees with his condemnation.

socalbeachdude

What utter nonsense, dude.

JC Teecher

You will be right there in the same boat with Carl, on your knees, confessing, and remembering what ole Teecher said, and the hammer will fall.
Hope you got a nice asbestos jump suit ready. cause you two pukes and snotty will need it unless you come around, but then again, you may get a second chance if you are deemed to have mental issues, of which we all see on a regular basis, but; it is what The Almighty Judge sees in you be-autches.

socalbeachdude

When you’re dead, YOU’RE DEAD, dude. Please go get a clue!

Gay Veteran

your “god” would condemn good people to Hell for eternity.

no justice there, typical of a premative religion

Carl

I won’t be on my knees begging forgiveness to your imaginary god. That I can guarantee you. Perhaps though you will be on yours when you realize just how wrong you were about everything.

JC Teecher

I will definitely be on my knees when Christ arrives, just like everyone else will as well.
My bible says every knee will bow and every tongue will confess.
I don’t see you getting a free pass, even if you have cursed God and have a cursing on you.
You will bow down on your knees, and you will like it, obi wan.

Gay Veteran

bilge, your “god” ordered the murder of BABIES

“…he proliferation of the LGBTQ agenda, via indoctrination of more innocents through the educational systems….”

yeah, because people can be taught to be part of Teh Gays.

moron

Carl

“We are supposed to be “the land of the free”, but most Americans seem to
have forgotten what that really means. If people want the government
to tell them what to do every moment of every day, they can move to
Europe.”

It is ironic that you refer to America as the land of the free. YET in the same breath condemn gay marriage and even abortion. Freedom does not mean that you get to impose your morals on the rest of the population. As what is immoral to one is perfectly moral to another.

That’s the problem with freedom then isn’t it. We really don’t want freedom. We just want a country that reflects our own ideologies, our own values and our own biases.

ollie173

RIGHT ON BROTHA!!

JC Teecher

These morals we invoke and try to live by are not those we Christians created, but those created and given to us by a loving Heavenly Father; not your father that goes by devil.

Carl

How many people did god murder in your bible VS the devil?

gfmucci

There is such a thing as evil and evil humans. You forgot about that?

Carl

OK so god should have taken care of them himself instead of making humans do the murdering and slaughtering of men, women, toddlers and infants. Funny he doesn’t mind all the different religions today that are in existence and is not ordering christians to wipe everyone out. I guess he does change.

Gay Veteran

bilge

Paul Vosper

Your so called way of life was killed years ago , what planet are you living on ?? come back to earth !!!!!!!!!!! one world order , will not make no change to this evil planet !!!!!!!!!!!!! ………………..

Marc

Just so you all know – this is the type of comment that is being removed by whoever: “Last year there were a number of people warning about a collapse. We all know there will be a collapse but virtually no one has been able to call it. I take the with pinch of salt”. I am so done with this site.

jakartaman

The world will eventually gravitate to a one world order – I do not like it but believe it is the nature of inevitability. That said, I do not believe we as a world are ready for one world governance. The inevitability needs to happen by natural momentum not forced and so fast.
The USA is blessed with oceans and a leader now who wants to protect Americans and our constitution.
We need to absolutely Crush and destroy everything liberal — it’s a pandemic disease that will be the death of America.
The elite are using Muslims to do their dirty work — they are playing with fire
Islam is more of a POLITICAL system than a religion — to allow sharia law to be the law of the land would be an unbelievable crime

socalbeachdude

Obviously, the vast majority of Americans certainly do not agree with you at all, so who is the “we,” Kimosabe?

Paul Patriot

Correct, because the vast majority of Americans don’t know how to think for themselves, and believe the lies fed them by the pied Piper of propaganda.

socalbeachdude

What “lies” are you talking about?

Cal

I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. America and the world has rejected Jesus and is set to welcome the unholy trinity. Liberals want Lucifer and him they will receive.

JC Teecher

They are definitely setting themselves up for him.
Many new age ministries, with a prosperity and pre-trib rapture doctrine are also setting up millions for him as well.

When he comes in, with his band of unholy angels, with a “we accept sodomy as a way of life message” ; then the true believers will start questioning their church.
You know the one; the one that follows a ” whatever is working for me now” teaching.
Many will depart from the faith, and many,many more will just keep following the j osteens of the world, and accept the first messiah.
After about five months of his reign, they see the true Messiah coming with clouds of angels, then they pray for the mountains to fall on them and hide them from the face of the Lamb.
Why? Because they realize they were duped and deceived into the wrong message, and the wrong preachers/teachers.

Gay Veteran

wow, still OBSESSED with Teh Gays

socalbeachdude

Less than 23% of the world’s population of more than 7.5 billion people has any interest at all in your Christian religion and that includes all of the people who are of the Jewish faith. American is a country FOUNDED ON FREEDOM OF CHOICE AS TO RELIGIONS. I would suggest you go read the US Constitution on that point.

Paul Patriot

And I suggest you read the founders writings and see how they viewed Christianity and the Bible.

socalbeachdude

So what? When the Bill of Rights and US Constitution were created the end result was an expression of FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS CHOICE which is the doctrine that rules America when it comes to religion.

Gay Veteran

like Thomas Paine?

mark

Of course. People don’t want to hear the truth. They want to be their own god. I don’t know if you realize this, but the majority is not what makes something right or wrong. Just because people don’t want Jesus Christ does not make Him any less of who He really is. Most of you miss the entire point of who God truly is and judge Him by others and your own humanistic opinions. True love is not what man has made it out to be. In fact mans love is actually hate for all mankind because of the destruction it brings to all people. I find it amazing that people who always say that people who don’t agree with them are haters and racially biased but never can SEE their own hatred and intolerance of others. Hypocrite’s!!!! Who are you to be so arrogant to challenge God and His true love???? Please wake up before its too late.

socalbeachdude

Jesus of Nazareth is just a person in the Christian religion and is of no interest to people of the Jewish faith or to around 77% of the world’s more than 7.5 billion people these days where only about 23% in any way embrace your religion.

Carl

In the bible jesus said that when he was dead that the apostles would perform miracles greater than he did. Where is the written evidence of these great miracles that the apostle performed after jesus’ death?

muldoon55 .

Not only does the world not receive him but Revelation 19:19 tells us that the kings of the earth will be aligned against him to make war with him at the final battle of Armageddon
What did Hicks from the movie alien say (game over man)

thegeorgespyman

Chinese military buildup worldwide. Russian jets on full combat readiness Crimea. Russian snap drills missile defense. B-52’s making dry runs on Russia. Putin interviewed by Stone. No one will survive. If they keep it up, we won’t have a life to survive.

socalbeachdude

So? Sounds like a normal day to me!

Kevin

My computer got malware from clicking on one of socalbeachdude’s hyperlinks.

socalbeachdude

Absolutely false. Why put up such a stupid bogus LIE?

LIZ THE SHIZ

it goes back much further in time than a liberal world order, it is the ultimate plan of non-other than the anti-Christ , supported by the oldest aristocratic families ,the oldest religious institutions and the very wealthiest individuals who believe they are entitled to a life where they will rule over all the rest of Earth’s people and creatures because we are expendible

socalbeachdude

So? Everybody always acts in their best financial interests. That’s the way it has always been and will always be.

Mark King

The biggest problem is wealth inequality. Young people are not going to believe in the American way of life if they are debt serfs. Also as the demographics change, fewer people will identify with the Founding Fathers and a free republic.

socalbeachdude

So-called “wealth inequality” has always been an integral part of the American economy and societal fabric.

Mark King

The typical American household is insolvent: its debts exceed its assets. There is nothing fancy about calculating insolvency: if debts exceed assets, the enterprise is insolvent. By this measure, most American households are insolvent, if their real assets are marked to actual market.

For example:

Auto loan balance: $9,000

Actual market value of auto: $6,000

Credit card balance: $6,000

Street value of stuff purchased with credit card: $300

home mortgage: $250,000

Auction value of house: $200,000

Student loans: $60,000

Market value of education: Not applicable, as it cannot auctioned off or securitized

And so on.

The typical American household is thus in service to its debt, not to its assets, and to the holders of that debt. This is debt-serfdom: serfdom in service to the owners of debt, debt that may well always exceed the value of the household’s assets. This is debt-serfdom for life.

If we look at the American household as an enterprise, then we have to differentiate between unproductive, trapped capital, assets held in a house or retirement account, and productive, free capital which can be moved in and out of productive assets to earn a return which increases free cashflow income in the present.

By this standard, most of the typical American household’s assets are trapped and therefore unproductive. In this sense they do not even qualify as capital. Let’s say a household owns a house with a real-world market value in today’s depressed market of $250,000, and the house carries a mortgage of $150,000. On paper, the household holds a net asset value of $100,000.

But this asset is not actually productive; it produces no income and exposes the household to the risks of declining real estate valuations. The asset provides the value of shelter, but if similar shelter could be rented for less than the costs of servicing the mortgage debt and the many costs of ownership, then sinking the entire household’s net worth/assets in a house does not “pencil out” as a productive investment of assets.

In a practical sense, this $100,000 is inaccessible and thus trapped; housing is highly illiquid and has transfer costs of up to 10% in realtor and escrow fees. In most cases, the sale proceeds are simply reburied into another mortgaged home. The asset is trapped and thus not deployable capital.

The same can be said of many retirement accounts that are routinely counted as assets on household balance sheets. the assets are trapped in the account until retirement, and their deployment is often restricted to a handful of risky options (investing in Wall Street, for example). The purchasing-power value of the assets might decline considerably by the time the funds can actually be withdrawn, and in this sense their present value is chimerical.

Since these funds are trapped, they also don’t qualify as capital: they cannot be used to start or buy a business or other assets which return free cashflow in the present.

Trapped assets are not capital. They cannot be moved into more productive uses that yield income streams that add to current income, which is the definition of capital. Borrowed money that is sunk into trapped assets is not borrowed capital; it is simply debt that must be serviced.

If we set aside assets trapped in real estate and retirement accounts, a truer picture of the American household’s actual productive capital emerges: most households have essentially no productive capital, and their debts far exceed whatever meager free capital they do own.

In a very real sense, the non-cash, non-small-business assets of the typical American household are invisible, unuseable, inaccessible and thus illusory; they exist as entries on the balance sheet but not as real-world productive capital.

Wealth and income do not flow from servicing debt incurred by trapped assets, it flows from productive free capital.

Thus the typical household toils not to increase productive capital that can be deployed to increase household income but to service their crushing debts. How else can we describe this situation other than debt-serfdom?

socalbeachdude

No, your numbers do not describe the “typical” American household at all. No doubt some highly financially irresponsible and profligate households would bit in that “profile,” but the actual facts are that more than one-third of all American households have their houses PAID FOR FREE AND CLEAR OF ANY DEBT and more than two-third of all credit card holders pay their credit card statements in full each month and have no credit card debt outstanding at all.

Nobody ever forces anybody to borrow any money from anyone at all, and those who do so profligately and stupidity have ONLY THEMSELVES TO BLAME for the consequences if they fail to pay their debts due with interest in the manner in which they agreed when they took out the debt and agreed in writing to the contracts on that debt.

So-called “wealth inequality” has always been an integral part of the American economy and societal fabric.

REALLY A PICTURE OF A CRUSADER HEADS THIS ARTICLE!! SMH…A NEW LOW FOR THIS SITE!…

Cinderella Man

The only thing that is a new low is your punk azz started commenting on this site!

ollie173

YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE VERY REASON THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME AN EMBARRASSMENT AND IS FALLING APART AT THE SEEMS!

Cinderella Man

Fcuk off by bullet or ballot we are MAGA

socalbeachdude

MAGA = Making American Goldman Again!

Carl

Ollie, good catch I didn’t even think about the implications of such an image. Frightening.

Gorilla Glue

Fix your garage door yet, Carl?

Carl

Actually I did. I used gorilla tape after I rammed my car into the front of the door about 6 times. BTW your tape works really well. You can’t even see the dents when it’s dark outside.

Cinderella Man

Oh but pictures of ISIS holding up severed heads dosent frighten you Carl? Tell your ma to throw another hot pocket in the microwave while you’re trolling conservatives.

gfmucci

So, you are frightened of fighting evil? Snowflake much?

Carl

The frightening part is that many have no idea what the crusades are and why they were such a frightening part of our history. I can guarantee you if you weren’t catholic back then you would have been slaughtered right along with the muslims you hate so vehemently.

gfmucci

Not in my short remaining lifetime, but there will be a time when Crusade-like hardship, sacrifice, and courage, and yes, taking “friendly fire” (as was the case in London and worse) will be required. There are times in human history where such is essential for survival.

And there are times in human history (like right now) when the thought of self-defense and naming the enemy is fearsome and unthinkable by many.

socalbeachdude

That’s what police departments are for.

ollie173

WHAT A TWISTED, SICK MIND YOU HAVE!

ollie173

RIGHT ON BROTHA!

gfmucci

Why is that? You preferred the Muslim hoards butchering Christians?

ollie173

LOL…UNFORTUNATELY VERY SAD BUT VERY VERY TRUE…YOU FORGOT…NOT ONLY HAVE THE MOST NECLEAR WEAPONS BUT ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY EVER TO USE NEUCLEAR WEAPONS ON ANOTHER COUNTRY, NOT ONCE BUT TWICE…THE FIRST AND BIGGEST DESTROYER OF THE EARTH AND THE VERY AIR THAT WE BREATH AND WATER THAT WE DRINK…THE MOST ABORTIONS IN THE WORLD…THE MOST WASTEFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD…WE CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON…LOL

JC Teecher

USSAG is definitely a leader in the downfall of creation to this point in time, but the ratio of true Christians/house of Israel, is greater here than G Britain.
Liberalism has taken a hold in G Britain because of leadership and it’s agenda for world dominance, however; it has backfired on them with the allowance of Sharia and it’s open acceptance of the jihadis. At a level of 3000 known radicals, and untold supporters of them.

Liberty First

Absolutely superb piece.

JC Teecher

According to news briefs from a preview of Comey’s testimony tomorrow, he is in a “catch 22” about his interview with Trump.
He should be in deep water over his past actions whereby he caved in to the LWO, to free hitlery. There is no justice in this current lwo/nwo system against the crooked leaders.

It will be interesting to say the least.

socalbeachdude

True, and extremely sad, pitiful, and pathetic. Many Americans have totally lost any sense of moral compass.

Carl

That might be true if you believe that previous generations had morals. I don’t. Did you know that cocaine was very popular even in the 1800’s and 1900’s. Then there was opium. Not to mention mistresses galore and unplanned pregnancies, etc.

Christians living in 2017 would have you believe that people were more upstanding in the good ole days. I say BULL. The same things that happen today happened back then. Times they certainly aren’t a changing. They have always been this way.

socalbeachdude

You are correct, and the original formula for “America’s Drink” known as Coca-Cola was a syrup sold in pharmacies that contained the “REAL THING.”

Carl

Having a coke and a smile back then meant something completely different then it does today 😉

Burt Gummer

Keep calm. Keep prepping. Keep training. Focus!

socalbeachdude

“Prepping” for what? Next Sunday’s brunch party?

Burt Gummer

No, for you, just go back to your hen party.

socalbeachdude

Lobster and caviar and edible gold should be on the menu of every lovely brunch! Be sure to stock up on those items!

Burt Gummer

I’m tired of lobster. I prefer sockeye salmon!

socalbeachdude

Why are you putting such such TOTALLY FALSE AND UTTERLY IGNORANCE and bogus assertions?

ObamaScare does not allow anyone to “go uninsured” at all and there are very substantially IRS penalties for anyone who does that now.

More than 77 million Americans are now on MEDICAID with a huge increase in those numbers as a direct result of ObamaScare. Anyone with incomes below a certainly level were FORCED ONTO MEDICAID in the 34 states where that program was expanded and that was their only option when attempting to signup for ObamaScare which they were FORCED TO DO BY THE ACA.

socalbeachdude

Huh? You do realize that says nothing at all, don’t you?

socalbeachdude

WILL THE WALL HAVE RED, WHITE, & BLUE LEDs?

I WILL build the wall – and I’d like to cover it in solar panels to pay for the cost! Trump uses meeting with GOP leaders to pitch new twist on Mexican border scheme

President Donald Trump made a pitch to Republican leaders this afternoon to put solar panels on his border wall as a way to help pay for the large structure.

LOL…the insurance companies should not be allowed to leave, or they should face mega fines if they do!

socalbeachdude

What utterly clueless nonsense. All insurance companies – including medical expense insurers – are STATE REGULATED with the primary purpose of regulation being to ENSURE SOLVENCY AT ALL TIMES.

The core principles of insurance are based on the RISK OF LOSS and the LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS in order to develop actuarily sound premiums that are affordable while maintaining solvency (and hopefully profitability) for the insurance companies that offer coverages. In order for those principles to be achieved there MUST BE SOUND UNDERWRITING AND EXCLUSION OF GUARANTEED AND CATASTROPHIC LOSSES or else insurance premiums would not be affordable and insurance companies would not be able to MAINTAIN SOLVENCY as they are required to do by all state laws which regulate all classes of insurance.

The ACA violates the core principles of insurance which would result in extreme ADVERSE RISK SELECTION where those with guaranteed losses flock to obtain coverages which would very rapidly render all medical expense insurers INSOLVENT.

The ACA is really just a COST SHIFTING MECHANISM from those with losses to a third party. If that third party were the US government, then that would be a different story. Unlike the federal government, insurance companies are NOT A BOTTOMLESS PIT OF LOSSES and cannot be for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that they are not allowed to be by state laws regulating insurance companies which require SOLVENCY at all times.

This Atrocious Care Act nonsense is the biggest boondoggle in US government history and will not survive for a huge variety of reasons.

There is no way that the ACA can remain. The Achilles heal is the the MASSIVE LOSSES IMPOSED ON MEDICAL EXPENSE INSURERS who cannot and will not continue to offer medical expense coverages. I think that was the intent in the first place in order to force a “single payer system” and drive the medical expense insurers totally out of business. The only other explanation would be TOTAL IGNORANCE OF INSURANCE PRINCIPLES by those who wrote the legislation. Either way, the result of NO MEDICAL INSURANCE AVAILABLE will rapidly be the same.

Insurance companies that offer medical expenses coverages are the BIGGEST LOSERS with this debacle and will soon be WITHDRAWING ANY AND ALL MEDICAL EXPENSE COVERAGES FROM THE MARKET and shutting down medical expense insurance operations as they will be have no choice but to do so as they would be RENDERED INSOLVENT if they continued to offer coverages.

ollie173

TOUGH! CHANGE THE RULES!!!…they make to much money and charge entirely too much! SMH

SoCalBeachDude

Medical expense insurance companies HAVE EXTREMELY LOW PROFIT MARGINS typically below 4% and those that engaged in participation with ObamaScare (ACA) plans LOST A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THOSE. Insurance companies MUST ALWAYS MAINTAIN SOLVENCY AS REGULATED BY STATE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER RULES OR THEY WILL BE SHUT DOWN AND TAKEN INTO CONSERVATORSHIP BY THOSE STATE INSURANCE COMMISSIONERS WITH ALL POLICIES AND COVERAGES IMMEDIATELY CANCELLED FOR POLICYHOLDERS.

What is so difficult for you to comprehend about those simple facts?

ollie173

LOL

socalbeachdude

JUST WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR ANY OF THAT, DONNIE?

Trump brags about Paris pullout and controversial pipeline projects as he promises $1 TRILLION in new spending on ‘safe, reliable and modern infrastructure’

‘It’s time to rebuild our country, to bring back our jobs, to restore our dreams, and yes, it’s time finally to put America first. And that’s what I’ve been doing, if you haven’t noticed,’ Trump said.

Eric Trump’s cancer charity was billed by Trump for use of golf course: Report

The Eric Trump Foundation paid President Trump’s businesses hundreds of thousands of dollars from 2007 to 2015 for expenses from charity golf tournaments intended to benefit Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Tennessee, at the direction of Mr. Trump…

Be armed and ready to defend what is our children’s. If we don’t defend liberty today, our children will tomorrow.

socalbeachdude

Defend against what?

mtntrek3

Politics has become nothing more than another divisive instrument in America sadly….. since there is little to no agreement on many things between the two. We’re divided by politics, race, social status, ……. . : / . Jesus will return to set up His government soon. Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

mtntrek3

I gather that, being in agreement with certain stances from both sides of the aisle politically, ……. I’m a part of the problem in America according to this article from the author. I respectfully disagree again. Neither side is altogether correct. This house being America is horribly divided and increasingly so. This article is another example of the divisiveness in our country. I’m seeing it more so here …… AND on other websites. Far left and far right. Smh. Jesus will set up His government soon….. but intense suffering worldwide will occur before then. Jesus is the Way to eternal Life. Take care everyone. Chris.

Carl

Exactly Chris, as I have said before some of my beliefs are conservative while others are liberal. Does that make me a bad person, or just human? Those that are only conservative or only liberal are the ones we should all be concerned about for the simple reason that they are too all or nothing in their thinking.

The idea that jesus would have a government is a man made idea and concept. Why would god whom is above the ways and minds of man need a government to rule over us on earth?

According to revelations the new earth would be nothing like this earth and I would imagine that a governing body would be completely unnecessary. Unless you believe humans will retain their humanness in this new earth and if that is the case then what is the point because humans being humans will always do what humans do.

“V”

That makes independents or Libertarians. Either way it is impossible to convince a liberal that anything they say or do could possibly be in error. It is like a powerful cult, both parties, they have not just drank the kool aid, they have drowned in it.

Carl

Same with many conservatives. People cling to what is comfortable and will refuse to the point of insanity to consider that maybe what they thought they believed or thought was good and true is in fact in error.

The lengths people will go to to uphold their version of reality is quite fascinating and scary.

Even those who want change in government really don’t want to change things – they just want to shuffle around the familiar faces with new faces and keep the tent poles of what they have known all their life in place (even though evidence exists that it just is not working and the road will lead back to where they started).

mtntrek3

I was referring to the 1K year reign of Jesus, when He comes soon to set up His kingdom. Yes, there will eventually be a new heaven and earth.

Carl

Why would he only reign for 1000 years? Why would there need to be a new heaven and earth?

mtntrek3

Well, some things we don’t fully understand while in this world. God will loose Satan after he is bound during the millennial reign. Satan will deceive and gather many in the world, and lead them in a final rebellion against Jesus and the Holy city (Jerusalem). Jesus will then destroy Satan and his followers by fire. Afterwards God will create a new earth along with new heavens….. a new earth free of sin and perfect as it was in the beginning. There are three heavens described in the Bible, the earth’s atmosphere/outer space and God’s realm. At least the first two will be recreated to make them perfect as they were in the beginning… and possibly God’s realm also for reasons we don’t understand.

Carl

“a new earth free of sin and perfect as it was in the beginning”

Do you understand what would be required to make a new earth free if sin and perfect? Human beings that had NEVER partaken from the tree of knowledge. As I have said before if that was the case then why not start there? Why go through all of this?

If the new earth is free of sin then free will would no longer exist – since the christians justification for why evil exists in the world is because of adam and eve’s first sin and free will.

mtntrek3

God through His Son Jesus makes us righteous, and nothing else. Once we as Christians pass on into the presence of God, we lose our sinful desires and become as Jesus is…. we are changed and perfected.

Carl

It didn’t work for the devil why would man be an exception to that? And the people who died before jesus where is their perfection?

mtntrek3

Lucifer, now Satan and his fallen angels were in the direct presence of God and had full knowledge of God at one time, and furthermore (most importantly)…. they wouldn’t repent even if they were given the opportunity. Totally evil. The ones that died in the time before Christ was on the earth gained eternal life the same way we do now, through faith in God and God’s resulting mercy upon us.

Carl

If that’s the case evil can exist in heaven and in gods presence. So the bible is wrong on that count.

If people received eternal life through believing in god then there would be no reason for jesus to exist.

Problem is most people with an actual conscious and shred of humanity could not reconcile the god of the old testament with his violent and evil actions and emotions.

So a kinder more gentler jesus was created to make it easy for people to transition and accept christianity. Unfortunately since god never changes he is still the murderous, vengeful, jealous, god same as he always was and always will be.

mtntrek3

Satan does appear before God at times, but he isn’t allowed anywhere else in Heaven. Jesus fulfilled the Law by His sacrifice on the cross for mankind. God is good. Satan and his minions are evil. ….. Anyway, take care Carl.

Carl

“Satan does appear before God at times, but he isn’t allowed anywhere else in Heaven.”

You do know logically that this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, right? Or are you so deluded that you will make excuses for this too?

mtntrek3

Our “logic” can’t begin to explain God. His ways of thinking are above ours….. far above. Satan at times appears before God as an accuser of the followers of God. Btw, a verse in particular comes to mind…. “A fool in his heart says there is no God”. Who is deluded?

If that is the case then you can never have a relationship with a being you cannot even understand. Not to mention this is just a b.s. phrase given by christians when presented with the illogical things in the bible and they are too afraid to question them because they know that road will lead to the deconversion from religion.

In that sense christianity and all other religions are cult like because believers are actually afraid to question for fear of displeasing their god and the consequences that they fear will happen.

I never sad a creator does not exist. I merely posit that the creator in the bible and all other religious texts is a fabrication and a lie.

mtntrek3

Again, take care Carl. Good day.

Gay Veteran

“…Satan does appear before God at times, but he isn’t allowed anywhere else in Heaven….”

where is that in the Bible?

mtntrek3

Job1:6-12… vs. 6 in particular. Zech. 3:1, also Rev. 12:10. The last verse points to some as Satan not being allowed before God after Christ’s resurrection….. others say that it points to Satan being cast out of heaven (from before God) at the end of times (the war in heaven).

Leif Erickson

25 years ago it was the “New World Order” now it’s the “Liberal World Order” we need to fear.

“Fear begets fear. Power begets power. I willed myself to beget power. And it wasn’t long before I actually wasn’t afraid.”

socalbeachdude

They are one and the same.

HadItWithThem

Liberal World Order = JEWS

socalbeachdude

False and Anti-Semitic nonsense.

HadItWithThem

It will take a LOT of guns and blood to eliminate the strangle hold of the liberal establishment..

“V”

I am afraid you may be 100% correct.

socalbeachdude

Anyone who tries any of that will be thrown in the federal and state hoosegows around the country.

“V”

I have had discussions (more like heated debates) with a few of my liberal friends. Even when I present established facts, each of them refused to accept them and stayed on their position. I was astonished. How can you deny a fact? The liberal mind is devoid of reasoning. They are unable to accept anything that runs contrary to the liberal belief system. Try it sometime you will be amazed.

socalbeachdude

Many so-called “conservatives” – especially mid-west rednecks appear to have precisely the same issues!!!

SnodtBlossom

there is no god

STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN

What?

STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN

Whaat?

STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN

Whaaat?

Mr. Blair M. Phillips

Being a liberal minded person(socialist or Jewish anarchist)) is going to destroy or kill your way of life? What’s the matter with collective decision making? or universal single payer health care? of universal free public education? or universal & free Early Childhood Education(John Dewey model)

Carl

A FREE country does not mean that christians and christian values get to rule the USA. If you want that type of government and country then you might as well move to Saudi Arabia because their ONE religion and their ONE value system for all is what you seem to be promoting here.

See that’s the problem with a FREE country. People want it to be free as long as it ascribes to their morals and value systems. People are not one size fits and your country should not be either.

William Bryan Estes

I’ve heard people discuss the army and style of government that would lead the persecution of Christians. Islam is the perfect tool for the job.

Carl

You’re are an idiot. The word liberal in the bible does not mean what it does today.

The vile person is a pampered person perhaps one of the wealthy in their society and liberal means to give generously.

The churl is someone who goes without and becomes miserly. Kinda of like a homeless person you hear about who died and had a million dollars squirreled away.

Do you see how easily and twisted meanings and verses in the bible can become? In the past the flock only had the preacher to tell them what it meant. How dangerous and sad for those people who did not have the education or knowledge and followed whatever the heart of the preacher was turned to and their agenda.

John Boyt

Those that don’t have ground to stand on, usually resort to name calling. Your interpretation of what liberal is, is not what it actually is today. Show me a political liberal who doesn’t hold vile views.

Fed Up

I might die, but am determined to take as many ENEMY down with me, should it come to that. I include Liberals and World Order types in my list of enemies.

Fed Up

Islam — The Religion of Peace that keeps right on killing, raping and maiming!

Sigurd Von Liebenfels

The “Liberal World Order” isn’t just about over-regulation and taxes, it’s ALL about White Genocide.

Gay Veteran

“…We’ve been taught that the United States is the cause of the world’s problems; we are not special or unique….”