This is a discussion on A new strategy for me within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; I have been playing online poker for a few years now and came across something new the other day. I have never seen anyone fold

I have been playing online poker for a few years now and came across something new the other day. I have never seen anyone fold so many times on the river card, when it was checked to them. This was in a freeroll to boot. Had to sit and think about the reasons why. First we thought it was a bot playing. Then I asked in a chat room about this person and if there was a reason why. I was told this person calls with any suited cards and cards most people would not think of calling with. He would fold on a checked river so you would not see what he was calling you with. Think I might try that in the near future to see where it will take my game to. GL

#2

30th August 2008, 8:10 PM

danny021 [119]

i dont quite get what you're getting to here.... when someone checks down to you on the river... your options are to check or bet... you can't fold... you can only fold if there's a bet... i don't really see how this is a strategy though.... or maybe on UB you can fold to checks but i dunno i play on Full Tilt... either way i think thats not really a strategy....

#3

30th August 2008, 8:12 PM

ythelongface [2,636]

Poker at: Hollywood IN

Game: holdem

might be an interesting tactic to try in a freeroll. no harm done there, and if you do it for a game or 2 and it doesnt work, you can always go back to normal. heck you might even run into this guy and turn the tables on him. that would be funny i think. i see you around all the time, iim sure you can have success with it and some fun

#4

31st August 2008, 5:48 AM

naruto_miu [9,854]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: omaha

Yes you can fold on most sites if it's checked to you, but I just don't get it, if it's checked to you, would'nt you feel more inclined to take a stab at the pot? Calling, Calling, and then folding just does'nt seem like a good move at all. Weather it's a free roll or not

#5

13th September 2008, 4:40 AM

Wonka22 [753]

Poker at: bodog

Game: Holdem

What is this tactic?? fold to a checked river card??

If nothing else, wouldn't you wanna see if you have the best hand? you cannot win the hand if you don't showdown??

I'm missing something.

#6

13th September 2008, 4:52 AM

D'wilius [7,519]

re: Poker & A new strategy for me

This is not the golden ticket.

#7

13th September 2008, 5:00 AM

RJB-7 [363]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: Holdem

That is possibly one of the most craziest and stupid strategies i have ever heard of...imo i wouldnt even call it a strategy its just a stupid play. Do what you want but trust me it wont work.

#8

13th September 2008, 5:04 AM

aquadad [85]

Online Poker at: FT, PS, UB,

Game: NLH

I knew a guy who would play ATC just trying to bust someone out and then watch them go off in chat. He called it "donking" ( he's a friend of mine). Anyway, he didn't want to show his hand if he didn't hit big and show that he played 2 rags and cracked your big pr. or something like that.

#9

13th September 2008, 5:14 AM

cexandmoney [43]

Poker at: absolute pok

Game: stud hi lo

i have seen a lot of this lately. bet bet bet or check check check or call call call and fold on the river. or be timed out. but here is the catch. they chase with crap betting the whole way(with small bets or checking) to narrow the field then they will fold on the river. it is a set up play for later on so they can get called when they have the nutz. and i have noticed that it is effective. they will throw away 1/3rd of theyer chips and then bust a pot for the double or even triple up. its a sweet play but it makes me wonder about the player. where did this play come from and who came up with it. it is a strange deal. and by the way i like to be real hard on the guys that do this. they want to win with a crap hand they must pay pay pay and finally pay. they will suckout if given to many chances. folding on the river to a check sheesh!!! you could be bluffing.

#10

13th September 2008, 5:22 AM

aquadad [85]

Online Poker at: FT, PS, UB,

Game: NLH

eventually these players bust out though. They can't seem to switch gears to throw others off.

#11

29th October 2008, 8:03 PM

beefcake413 [368]

Poker at: Bodog

Game: Holdem

i agree, I don't think it's a very sound strategy at all, unless you're eventually going to switch it up. I can't understand why you would continue to call then fold without at least raising one or two times on the checked river.

#12

29th October 2008, 8:28 PM

PokerVic [822]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: Holdem

re: Poker & A new strategy for me

The strategy is 99% pointless. First, you're missing out on the occasional pot when your Q-high is the best hand. Second, you're playing every pot. Anyone paying attention is going to know you're playing garbage, whether you show it at the end or or not. Third, it's extremely exploitable.

#13

29th October 2008, 8:28 PM

channing73ny [79]

Poker at: cake

Game: holdem

no way

i understand what your saying i find my self losing my bankroll too careless play where i own the hand have 1 or two people call all the wat too river with absolutely nothing but a draw some how the only person callin you down with a chitty hand from jump street ens up hitting the nuts i find this very disturbing also when you see this happening i think the best thing too do if your in a ring game is movebecause this table could be working against u dont think fpr a minute that there isnt patners at these tables feeding each other tells on what they have i know its happenibg i know people who do it.if you feel this way move immediately sometimesa these folks will follow u also so beaare of your sorroundind take notes on theses individuals

#14

30th October 2008, 8:36 PM

mrknwitall [52]

Online Poker at: Bodog Poker

Game: Holdem

Well ... First we all ought to get down to the general conception of the term called "Strategy". The best strategy or even a good strategy which is worth using is one which would guarantee you some money. Playing in this way would never; trust me. And if you really want to win , you have to show your cards at some point of time! unless you want to ummm ... you know .. use your 'strategy' and avoid winning the bets while choosing to 'hide' your cards away *snicker *snicker . lol!!

Well its worth a post though , atleast we're aware of it. :|

#15

30th October 2008, 10:23 PM

nascarbabe [182]

Poker at: Ultimatebet

Game: omaha hi/lo

Well I have changed up my game a few times with this strategy...it has left them guessing even more than before.....its not a tatic i use all the time just enough to throw people off my game.....anything different is worth a shot....and yes i have called with some garbage and actually hit on the river....call me a new wave donk

#16

31st October 2008, 12:11 AM

Bigchipz08 [16]

Online Poker at: Ultimatebet

Game: Holdem

I have also only been playing a few years, but I know exactly what you're talking about....There was a guy in a UB freeroll doing the same thing the other day. I tried it a couple times, and it works on some people because it throws them off as to why you're doing it. Watch out though. I came across a guy who caught on quick, and would raise right off the bat just so that I'd fold, or try to get me to play along.

#17

31st October 2008, 9:15 PM

paulwall01 [59]

Poker at: ultimatebet

Game: holdem

I could understand if you did this once after a bad draw you had no business going after but after you do this twice, anyone paying attention will know your playing trash. This "strategy" is pointless because once they know your playing trash you might as well showdown and give yourself a chance to win. You are going to get all the action anyways.

#18

6th April 2012, 3:50 AM

KCcheckraise [8]

re: Poker & A new strategy for me

I've seen some people fold on the river without a bet but doing it constantly is just throwing chips away. If you fold every time people will know you are playing horrible cards. If you aren't chasing and you fold you are even worse because you may be losing many potential wins with a high card, so its not a mystery to anyone and it seems to me to be a horrible strategy.

If nothing else, wouldn't you wanna see if you have the best hand? you cannot win the hand if you don't showdown??

I'm missing something.

Sound like the tactic is chase anything on the board and if it doesn't show up by the river then get out.

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT Give it a try and see how long your BR lasts.

#21

7th April 2012, 11:16 AM

Aldito [1,246]

Poker at: All of 'em

Game: Hold'em

Wtf, I've never seen this befor. Why isn't it in the Golden Archives?

#22

8th April 2012, 9:08 AM

Ezekiel162 [627]

Online Poker at: Any Freeroll

Game: NLHE/HORSE

I've done this move plenty of times when I switch gears.

For me, 1.) it serves to make players ask the same question/s that started this thread, confusing them enough to hopefully tilt them temporarily 2.) hides my hand-range when the cards don't fall as expected.

This combined with placing consistent bets on both marginal and premium hands from ANY position makes my hands undetectable until I drop an anvil on an unsuspecting player's face. Afterwards, I'll immediately switch gears again or upon players attempting to counter these moves. I've flatlined many a opponent doing this... It's just another tactic in a player's toolbox.

I do NOT use these tactics on a regular as doing it wrong or at inappropriate times will def have u sitting on the rails...

#23

8th April 2012, 9:51 AM

commanderpants [42]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: NLHE SNGs

This might be effective on tables where you've been playing a certain style and want to switch gears for a bit. But doing it consistently surely can't be mathematically profitable.

#24

8th April 2012, 12:29 PM

duggs [9,065]

re: Poker & A new strategy for me

how on earth would this throw people off or disguise your hand at all? just makes you look stupid

#25

8th April 2012, 2:17 PM

HoldOnTheRail [72]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: HoldEm

No strategy here at all.

#26

8th April 2012, 2:37 PM

Karkus77 [422]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: hold em

guys get a grip, this is a horrible "strategy" its just bad and will cost you a load of chips

i try to be polite on these forums, but please dont follow this strategy! its ridiculous

#27

8th April 2012, 2:56 PM

Karkus77 [422]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: hold em

plus to quote "He would fold on a checked river so you would not see what he was calling you with"

but i would know what he was calling with, utter trash!

#28

8th April 2012, 5:48 PM

Ezekiel162 [627]

Online Poker at: Any Freeroll

Game: NLHE/HORSE

I never said that I agreed with or condoned the move. NascarBabe specifically asked WHY a person would pull this kind of (stupid?) move. Felt that I gave the most reasonable explanation because no other one makes any sense. Once again, I've done the move on BRIEF occasions WHEN switching gears for BRIEF periods of time and it has worked for ME when ahead on chips or tournament play... Can't speak for anyone else because i'm not anyone else... and as for it "making me look stupid", ask the same the people I've put on the rails using it stating the same how stupid they feel...