>They so suck at life that their only option is to join the millitary.>They are considered so worthless by people who matter that they are sent overseas to be shot at by sand niggers.>They come back from 3rd world countries and expect to be given paid work in the civilian sector. What about those who didn't go overseas? Who stayed behind to pick up the slack, to work and pay taxes that paid their millitary salary, who were worth more than being sent overseas to be shot at.

Think about it. The power of free will and you *still* settle for slavery. Wonderful, no?

From an early age, you're influenced by your environment. Your parents (or lack of), teachers (in some manner, shape or form) and other mentors can help steer your life in a direction, whichever direction that may actually be.

However, during all of this, if you're still alive and have most of your bodily functions, there are a whole world of opportunities available to you. Especially in this day and age of technological marvels and the wonders of the Internet to provide information (and, of course, misinformation.)

The military should not even be an option, at this point, because not only is there enough information to suggest that joining it is only for those who've allowed themselves to be brainwashed by a military-industrial complex keen on retaining what power they have left ... but there is also enough information available for people to make their own decisions on what they'd like to do, instead.

Still, people join. They wish to be broken down and remoulded in somebody else's image.

This is a sign of weakness. Of allowing one's self to be influenced and corrupted by those with power and ambition. Essentially, those who join the military are no-better than mindless sheep.

You're not important if you're in the military. The important people are safely at home telling you what the fuck to do, and they smart worthwhile people are safe at home electing people that tell you to do what they want you to do. You see how if you're in the military you are like THE lowest rung on the ladder? The only rung lower than you would be slaves.

>>701763805You didn't fight at the Blackwater, you didn't see hundreds of your comrades, brave men fighting for the true King, Stannis, burned alive by the Imp's wildfire. You didn't charge across the burning bridge of ships, and find yourself on the cusp of victory before the traitor Tywin Lannister's army hit us from behind. You could never understand.

>Why do military fucktards think they are worth anything?Because of the military meme. They get told that they're the greatest thing ever by random dickheads all the time and it's treated as borderline sedition when you don't say that shit about them. Why would they not think they're pretty good?

>>701765530You down syndromed autistic nigger. No-one is saying we don't need a military. I'm saying that the people in it are not important. They don't rate. They've failed at life. That's why they're in the millitary. I fully recognise that in an armed conflict we need retarded fuckmonkeys like you to put on a helmet, shoot in the air and run screaming towards a group of another nations gun shooting fuckmonkeys, but you're effectively a meat shield for people more important than you... which is everyone not in the millitary.

You're just a giant fucking pussy. Do you have any idea how potentially important it could be to have combat experience/know how to react? Some jobs are completely unique to the military, like the infantry. What's wrong with wanting to know what it's like to get in a gunfight? Some of us aren't pansies and are willing to sacrifice bodily harm to find out

>>701766089>I'm not saying we don't need a table, but who cares about the shape or if it has legs or not.I bet you hold your tongue like a bitch in the presence of a real man.>>701766524If you own the resources, you can start a business and take a large percentage of the U.S. economy home with you. We can't have other nations owning us. We have to show them who's boss.>>701766582Depends if your club does anything of value. People don't pat themselves on the back in the military. They follow their orders. Citizens do the patting.

>>701766486The honor-less niggers who stay home and fuck white bitches and abuse their freedom of speech. I hardly think any of you are more important than anyone in the military. In fact, if the military ever takes over you little bitch boys are going to be fucked.

>>701767504>People don't pat themselves on the back in the military. They follow their orders. Citizens do the patting.

Wong. Citizens give the orders via their duly elected government. We frankly don't give a toss about you or whatever medals or ribbons you chose to give yourselves in your circlejerk club.

>>701767270>What's wrong with wanting to know what it's like to get in a gunfight? Some of us aren't pansies and are willing to sacrifice bodily harm to find outThat makes you important now? It doesn't you know. It makes you a retard.

>>701767852>I hardly think any of you are more important than anyone in the military. In fact, if the military ever takes over you little bitch boys are going to be fucked.>I hardly think any of you are more important than anyone in the military. >I hardly think.

>>701768013It's unfortunate that people are giving you a false sense of your own importance by replying to your fucking ridiculous "logic". Keep munching on those microwave dinners and watching loli porn. Let men be men and do what you're too much of a pussy to do.

>>701767598Call it "bait" all you like, you bombastic idiot, there's the propaganda that's been shoved down your gullible throat from day one, and then there's the truth that OP is enlightening you to.

Some day you may be wise enough to know the difference. Today won't be that day, however.

>Haven't really browsed or posted on /b/ much for about a year or so>Think to myself, "It's all 4chan. How much different from the other boards could it actually be?">Decide to come back and see what's going on>See the type of people that post on here>Immediately reminded of why I left to begin withWow. You are all losers. Both sides of this argument, you are losers.

>>701768634Never said they weren't needed, only pointed out not important, not intelligent, and not worthwhile. Lowest rung of the ladder. The first to get thrown into the grinder while the more important people sort things out.

>>701768470Again, you're up your own ass. The millitary simply provides protection while the people and their government sorts shit out. Look at them like the crumple zone in your car. They're there to get squashed.

Wanting to experience the thrill of shooting someone else makes me a retard? It's not my fault you're a massive fucking pussy. It's alright, you'll find out the hard way when you can't get female attention because they all know how much of a low-energy beta you are.

I could understand military pride during wars that meant expanding territory, killing sick fucks like the nazis, or at least demanding not to be spit on for fighting a war you didn't want to fight during draft times, but all this shit the last 14 years is hardly a war let alone a good cause.

Exactly what should I admire about modern soldiers? Their low wages, lack of education, or job that's less risky than being a police officer, oil worker, etc.. They know how to shoot a gun and some basic fighting technique, big deal, takes a few weeks to months to learn that shit, not exactly an impressive skill set.

Y'all is dumb. All of you. Op already said he appreciates the job you do protecting the rest of us and that you are needed. He's just saying it the way a 15 year old who just discovered critical thinking would say it.

In truth, op is making good point and so are some of you pro military anons. But you're still dumb, including op.

>>701769302I didn't give you permission to reply to me. Listen, it was entertaining, first. Hell, it was actually funny.

But now I'm getting the feeling that you actually think that you're on my level. From the day I was born, I was destined for success, you little shit. I was brought into this world by a software engineer and and a prominent actuary, both of Norwegian descent. From the moment that the fucking curtains were raised, I was set to dominate the STEM fields. And because I had guardians that actually cared about me, I flourished. Pretty soon, I was placed into a special school of correspondence, specifically I.M Gelfand's school for gifted children in New England. I not only reached my parents' expectations, but I passed them with flying colors. I had raw talent. I was fucking better. I was surrounded by 6th graders, many from Hong Kong, whom were smarter than half the posters in this fucking thread. And now, where am I?

In MIT, getting my double BS in Electrical Engineering and Physics, with a Stanford-Binet tested IQ of 147 at age 17.

Get this through your head: you are nothing. I am worth more than your entire goddamn family. I'm smarter than you, better looking than you, taller than you, wealthier than you, and more employable than you. While you type out another post to get cheap laughs, I'll be simultaneously working with the brightest minds in the world and fornicating with my beautiful girlfriend. It gets on my nerves when people pretend to be better than me.

>>701769109Most people are too important to join. That's the point. The millitary is the scum at the bottom of the barrel of society, the ones that society least needs to keep safe.

>>701769151Yup, makes you a retard. If you can only feel important by shooting people, you're a retard. If you think it makes you tough to have a gun, you're a retard. And you're not alpha if someone else (me) is giving you orders via my elected government on where to go, what to do and how hard to suck my cock.

>>701769505Fucking kek'd Thanks for making my night :') you are indeed VERY SMART, aren't you? Can you also tie your own laces? What a big boy! Mummy is proud of you! Daddy is too! Your IQ is even of 147...! Wow! Oh my God! I can't. You're too smart for this website.

>>701769925I don't think you hiring me is ever going to be an issue, since you obviously don't have the ability to grasp a basic concept, and that makes you far from the kind of person that should be assessing the merits of other people in an employment situation. Let me dumb it down for you.

Military are necessary, but they are not important people. People in the military who believe they are important have lost touch with reality.

People in the military are paid by my taxes, take orders from my elected officials, and do whatever they fuck they are told.

They are the lowest rungs on the social ladder, they should not expect better. By joining the military they have demonstrated that they have failed at life, are unable to think for themselves or forge their own paths. They are not relevant.

I'm an amotivational loser who basically dropped out of life. When i applied myself i got 90% in school but generally i'm just a lazy twat who skips class to play vidya games.

I don't wanna join the army for life but im considering a 4 year stint in the army to whip my ass into shape. Is this a terrible idea? I don't wanna be a loser who collect porn anymore. I wanna become a hard working successful type A motherfucker

>>701771270I work hard, and pay my taxes.I pay people to work for me. I value them, as they make me more money. I pay the military to work for me via my taxes and my government, but I don't rate them as highly as I rate my employees. If it came between hiring someone in the military against someone who wasn't, I'd hire the civilian because at lease the civilian hasn't failed that hard that they had to sign up to be given direction.

11/b/ here. Left the crust punk scene and joined. 7 years later I'm a 26 year old E6 (in the guard now) make over 30 an hour at my civvy job and honestly enjoy both the guard and my regular job. I hope the diabetes takes you all swiftly to minimize the pain of being a human tumor. Also, we all know 8th grade is hard but you guys need to focus your puberty angst on something else, bleach chugging contests perhaps?

the military is definitely a big joke at this point. really obscure opaque wars that are carrying out fringe objectives that aren't readily apparent to the average voter - in the worst cases it's just straight up misled on false beliefs.

also take it from someone who has lived in an area where there's a bunch of bases now - military jobs are a huge racket. I saw a fucking job paying like $70K a year with a "prior military background" preferred that required the person to know "basic Microsoft office skills" and fucking visual basic. like fuck off. people talk about the US government wasting money, but all that wasted money is actually going to military CONTRACTORS and is not actually being used by the government. it's a total sham.

>>701771539The military can instill some discipline but only if you take it seriously Dont get married while your in As soon as you get out use your GI bill on a 4 year and basically get paid to go to school and fuck college chicks College is so much easier after serving at least from my experience(engineering major)

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If you can remember the names of more than 10 people who died in battle across the last 200 years I would be very surprised. But we remember names like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln. Jefferson Davis. Winston Churchill. Joseph Stalin. Adolph Hitler. Harry Truman. The glory is with those who pull the strings, not with those who fight. You may feel glorious, but no-one other than you shares that feeling with you. It's all in your head, right next to your inflated ego and your vision of what is masculine.

>>701766089>meatshield Son, you need to stop playing video games if you think soldiers are your meatshield. I would love to see you say anything like that to a real killer. You are just some liberal cuck.

>>701774015Biggest reason we lost is because we couldn't use our forces to the maximum due to projected civilian casualties as a result.

You know how easy it would be to air strike a shitskin hubble? Literally no casualties. ISIS just doesn't have the ability to deal with airstrikes, so they set up their rat nests in places with high civilian concentrations so that we can't airstrike it.

>>701770501That's an interesting argument, are you this anon?>>701769505Because the whole forging your own path thing sounds like a lot of talk if you had an easy path to success your whole life and were surrounded by others with the same.I'm just curious if you were so smart and successful, why is it you don't think you could go somewhere someone else told you and complete an objective, you're given a mission parameter and tools to do it. Wouldn't a smart person be able to do such a job? Expressing a lot of contempt for any risk to your personal safety it really doesn't sound like you're capable of it.

>>701774347That isn't me. That was copypasta. The fact you couldn't pick copypasta reinforces the idea that you shouldn't be given the keys to the stationary cupboard, let alone be in charge of hiring people.

>>701774015They aren't all just stupid sand niggers. If you had an education you would learn who taught them and for what reason. The problem was of course their religious bullshit causing strife after their exchange in warfare education

>>701773948I havent worked with to many female types (was a 68W tide to mostly infantry units) But when ever i did there was like a 50/50 chance she was a slutProbably wouldnt marry/go out with one until after she ets

>>701763805TL;DRHe's right though. Some of the worlds finest people join the military. Many people are not smart enough to join, or have proven they cannot be trusted with important information or responsibility.

Additionally, these people (me included) are willing to sign a blank check that is cashable for up to and including our lives for our country and for each other.

The USA, capitalism, free market and all the bill of rights are worth keeping. I hope we can keep the socialist dickheads from taking over and ruining civilization for us when we're done doing what the rest of you idiots can't do, and would not ever do.

>>701774641It doesn't take a genius to observe and figure out a course of action.

They know that US won't strike if it means lots of civilians will die, so they hide around a lot of civilians.

But everywhere else they go they get absolutely destroyed. Personally I think that civilian casualties are acceptable if it means stopping a growing threat, even if it would risk breeding animosity towards the united states.

>>701772305Actually, courage is a big part of it.My friends who have fought have talked about having to scout out areas with snipers or transport goods on roads with RPGs firing at them from the sides, at night too

My life has too much worth to take, whether by my hand or someone elses, and while it's possible I could get shot in a robbery or hit by a car, it's stupid to deliberately put your life on the line unless you have no other options. If your only option in life is that you need to risk it to make your way, to have someone tell you what to do and how to do it, then I put it to you that you have failed at life.

Its so funny 90% of them have the most asinine pointless jobs and they come back acting like a hero when they basically went to summer camp.Ive never known any succesful person that entered the military because they wanted to as a career path.

Its always a kid that slacked off his entire life then posts on facebook how hes "gettin my shit together 100 fam" and the military gives him a free pass to be babied and placed in a gentle career path.

>>701763805Even as a military guy, I agree to a point. I love my country and I fight for it because that's what I want to do, I feel it in my blood for whatever reason. Idk why so many people suck military people's dicks even if they were in for just 4 years to get free college and not actually join because they want to serve. I grew up in a military family and was taught that you have to fight for what you believe or people will come and take it away. I have no desire to kill people, and with my job I shouldn't have to. I mean that's what makes America great IMO. Everyone can have an opinion and not get prosecuted for it, and that's part of the reason why I defend it. Now if there were a humanitarian military I'd join that because I believe it's more important to save innocent lives than to say like "it's not here so why do I care"

>>701775496Your life has too much worth to take?Where does all this self-importance come from? Why is it you try and separate yourself from everyone else like you're not a part of everyone else?But I did have to kek at

>>701766524>Establish a communist striking distance within Japan if SK fell>bunch of college students held hostsge by pro USSR fuck heads gunning for their island to become Cuban Missile Crisis 2 eletric boogaloo

OP, grow the fuck up and stop being such a whiny little emo bitch. Life sucks, get over it, or do the world a favor and hang yourself; oxygen is valuable, and you are wasting it.

I know this fact is hard to accept, but there is nothing you can do about the dark powers that rule this world, this applies to everyone from the faggot working in a fast food joint to the marine turning sandniggers into gibblets.

Also, you use the term, "Those who join the military are failures.", when quite frankly, you're the one who seems to be a failure.

You obviously feel inferior to men in the military, especially considering you're probably a skinny faggot, or a fat as fuck momma's boy. The aforementioned traits of you are also why you don't have a girl.

>>701777385have fun with no standing military of any sort when another foreign nation invades and blows up all the schools, hospitals, and don't forget, your favorite starbucks then puts you in a work camp.

>>701776701Sure, that's understandable.But truthfully, I'm more interested in seeing what gives your life more value than others.What about your consciousness is so vastly different that the thought of taking a risk in your life is unthinkable?

Some people come out of the military more intelligent than the upper middle class. But thinking that the "entire military" and "everyone that used to be military" would join this cause is the same reason coups dont work. Because its fucking stupid. And you lose.

But yes, while military is an easy way into a better life that doesnt make it worthless.

Being in the military used to be something people did because they loved the country, and they genuinely felt like it was something worth fighting to protect.The reason only idiots join the military now is because we only fight to control more than we already do. Our military is strictly for profit now.

It sucks. I don't want to die so that someone above me can buy a new car.

I do believe that there is a universal goodness worth discovering and sharing.

Until people actually start thinking and meaning it, however, instead of feeling and acting on said feeling, people are going to fight and kill. It sucks shit.

If only we would use our heads instead of our guns. Call me a faggot with a lot of ideals, but if you practice now what you believe and are able to spread it in any way shape or form, it can go very, very far.

We live, breathe, and prosper off of one another's happiness, and until that ideology becomes universally accepted around the world, expect people to be recruited and fight for their country, good or bad. Let's use our brains as much as possible this time around fellas.

>>701763805>be me>have gf>gf basically cheats on me with this firefighter guy>feelsbadman>fast forward a bit, see that she posted on facebook that her "fiance" was joining the marines>get back in touch with her after he goes to boot camp>slowly work my way back into her life>I was always the guy who was there for her when she needed someone>bitch I just wanted in your pants>she calls him and they get into a big fight, he says he was stressed because of training>she is very upset>comfort her>ask if she needs me to stay over that night>she says yes>fuck her brains out, fuck her in the ass, cum on her face>come over maybe 3 times a week and fuck her>he's gone for two years>one day i'm over there, she's in the shower after intense doggy style>hear a ding on her phone>it's a facebook message from him>just a bunch of lovey crap>send him a message back>"call me jody because I just fucked your bitch">send him a picture of her in the shower through the shower door>turn her phone off>get dressed and leave>never speak to her again>mfw they broke up and he tried to commit suicide

>>701769030Well you're half right the government wasn't allways able to to solve problems diplomatically and people would have to fight aka soilders but now wmd or weapons of mass destruction made diplomatic problem solving for lack of a better word easier... But then again we're all faggots on b so...

>>701778838Honestly it sounded to me like he never had a choice in life. Didn't pick his parents, didn't pick his schools or class mates, didn't pick what he worked on in school or really how to work on it since there's a right answer and not really a new right answer when it comes to teaching and grading.Military sounds like the same to him, doesn't pick what he jobs does, doesn't pick who his boss is. Basically the same thing except military just requires a degree of selfless service that seems to get him a wild hair up his ass when he wrote it.

>>701769522>Most people are too important to join. That's the point. The millitary is the scum at the bottom of the barrel of society, the ones that society least needs to keep safe.Confirmed you never attempted to join or looked into the requirements to be able to join.Your health needs to be perfect, no prior broken bones, no prior invasive surgery of any kind what so ever, no allergies, beyond a certain eye sight prescription renders you ineligible, no prior psych visits or mental health history, have never been admitted for an addiction, no convicted felonies as well as have misdemeanors wiped from your record, must pass urinalysis (even after you hit the fleet you are tested at random aka all the fucking time), you must have a home address, you must have a certain IQ, ASVAB score, GT score, high school diploma, and if no HS diploma you must have a GED with college creditsYeah, really scraping the bottom of the barrel, fuck wit

>>701778684LOL. Military fags love to kill themselves. Fucking retards sign up to see fucked up shit and then an hero when they actually see fucked up shit. Soooooo manly lol. Cry more. That's what you get for being such a fucking tool.

>>701764955This generates hearty keks within me loins, because all these cucklords will preach about how >muh military for morons >muh intelligence too high while jerking it to the wars in GoT and al the rest of their fantasy shows.

Mfw you fat cucks will never be warriors Mfw you pussies will never get pussy Mfw ww3 pops off and you're all crying for our help

You're all ignoring the fact that KILLING PEOPLE IS FUN.Most will never know what it's like to lie in cover and wait for your victim to walk into your sights. To feel the exhilaration of seeing a half dozen armed sandniggers come into view. To watch as they approach knowing that certain death awaits. To move the crosshairs across them as you decide who will die first. To flip the safety off and feel your finger touch the trigger. Heart racing from the rush, you hold steady as you watch the crosshairs bounce with every heart beat. "Time to die" you think as you take a slow breath and let half of it out. And, in between heart beats, you feel the break of the trigger. The recoil of the rifle. You see the puff of red mist as your shot connects.>cont

>>701766089Why do I have a feeling that you're just some butthurt faggot that probably got cucked by a soldier because you're too much of a bitch to please a woman? Guess what faglord? I worked for one of the biggest banks in America before I joined. But I got to the point in my life where I felt the urge to just kill little faggot slike you on a daily basis, but I did the smart thing and joined the infantry so I could put my aggression to use. There's a lot of smart people that joined for other reasons. Only like 10 percent of soldiers actually join as a last resort. Your obviously just some butthurt retard that for some reason has animosity towards service members.

>>701763805being a soldier makes you a murdering prostitute for the powerful elite.i pity people in uniform.honor and sacrifice are abstract constructions to justify murder on behalf of the powerful elite.

>>701782371One down as the others stand in shock and surprise. You could drop another with a quick follow up shot. But you don't. They don't know where the shot came from and you don't want to give away your position. So you watch as they dive for cover. Slowly, you rack the bolt. Placing your hand to catch the spent casing and keep the spinning brass from throwing off a flash of sunlight to show the enemy where you are. And they are looking.>cont

>>701768013Hey fuckstic, you do realize service members were civilians before they joined and will be once again? You act like your part of some fucking elite club, you dumb little cum guzzler. Some people feel a sense of duty and that they ought to pay back to the country in which they love. I bet your some little rich faggot that lives with mommy and daddy, bit supports things like blm and feminism because you're so oppressed.

>>701783741Get on my astrophysics life pussyI'm more physically fit than you, more accomplished and respected as an American, AND more intelligent than you. Not only do I research for NASA at cape canaveral, FL, but I also got to kill sand nigs. You're such a coward.

>>701783369Time moves slowly as you wait. An occasional head pops up from behind cover but you don't shoot. There's a chance you could miss and you don't want to give them the satisfaction. You want a chest shot. A sure kill. Soon, one stands up. Gun at the ready. Still you don't shoot. Ahmed is the sniper bait. Nobody likes him. He's the most expendable. So you wait. Seeing that Ahmed is still alive after a couple minutes, the rest slowly stand up. This time, Mohamed is going to die. Again, you squeeze the trigger.>cont

People who join the military are retards and also there wives and girlfriends get boned by dudes while they are got getting there limbs blown off. Then they get to spend the rest of there days having psd and crying to a inch of men. Talk about being cocked + 100

>>701783337That is a really narrow view.You are very young and inexperienced.

The self-discipline required to be a soldier, is an important part of learning to act in a collective of very different people.Such is needed not just in the military, but in police forces, firefighters and emergency room staff.

They do NOT want automatons.In any given order, there is room for initiative and opportunity.

>>701783976I'm not hating on the military here. I acknowledge that they are an important part of our country. I hate that people feel entitled because they served. They are not entitled. For whatever reason they chose to give up on free will, self determination and self reliance, and they feel that makes them important. It doesn't. It makes them a resource to be used by the rest of us.

>>701783976>Why do people hate on he military?There's been years of civil unrest. Military is just the strongest fist the system has. Picking at the nails won't really pull it apart but people do it anyway probably because they think soldiers are drones or at least stupid enough to be considered one. I really wish I could say I was different before I joined despite knowing vets I thought were smart, some people are just ignorant and lash out at the system and anyone in it.

>They are so fucking weak that their only option is to not join the military.>They are considered so worthless by people who matter that they are left in their useless routines in the us to be shot at by sand niggers.>They come back from 3rd rate leadership credentials and expect to be given overwatch position work in the civilian sector. What about those who went overseas? Who put foot to ass to all those international threats? Who went boldly foreword to pick up the slack, to fight and earned respect that paid civilians in blood with a check written for any cost including their very lives so these worthless sons-a-bitches could still be sad sacks of shit scared at being shot at.

>>701785238Any service member who acts or feels entitled is a piece of shit. Any good troop knows that. There are shitbags in every organization, even your own fucking family. And that's coming from an Army SGT. We do not "give up on free will." What the fuck is that shit. We give 4 years in exchange for 4 years of free schooling. Insecure civilians are the only ones talking shit and making claims here.

I work at a bar near an naval base. You can tell when the fleet is out because the place is full of wives and girlfriends looking to hook up. I usually have anywhere between 2-6 of them on the go at once. I hear more about the lifestyle from them, the reality that is. While they're away they're all macho and loving and shit, but when they're back they're all emo, brooding and acting like a victim.

Most of the wives are in it for the pay without the responsibility. I'd say 25% are hoping that hubby catches a bullet overseas so they can get the widows pension for life. Smart really.

Anyway. Sure, call me underachieving because I work in a bar, but I earn more than those jarheads do, and don't have to risk my life. I have pussy on tap, and all the conveniences of not living in a tent. That's a win for me.

>>701788017That's so fucking depressing I would hear about it before joining up but hearing about that kind of shit all the time in the military when I got in really sunk that idea in my head.You'd think it'd be easy to meet a girl that could uphold some marriage vows for a year. Makes you wonder how the heck guys who work a lot of hours don't catch their women doing this stuff not having to go out of town on business.

>>701766967Or he's fat, weak, and got disqualified by the military; so he goes home and says "I'll show them!" As he's stuffing the remainder of a party size bag of cheetos in his miserable gullet, sweating and breathing heavily as his fat fucking dick beaters mash the keyboard with the intensity of a rhinoceros taking a shit. Fucking kids man....

Most military guus are dumb as shit. I worked in the writing center at my college and almost all of the military guys who walked in for homework help were barely literate. There were more than a few who couldn't put a complete sententence on their fucking resumé. It was sobering seeing people 10 years older than me who seriously struggled putting their thoughts into words. Felt kinda bad for em. They probably weren't read to as kids or seomthing.

>>701763805I'm gonna say this for the record... I was in the Air Force for telecom for just under 5 years. I completed my BA degree while on active duty, and when I got out, I had relevant job experience, and zero college debt. Fast forward 5 years... I make more than the bulk majority of my peer group (I'm 29) - 6 figures, and I'm currently getting my Executive MBA at a top tier b-school paid for in full by the Feds. It's a $110k program. Now, do you mind telling me how I'm such an idiot? I'd love to hear it...

The point OP was making is so fucking obvious that the only reason he would have any need to post it is either a) he's fucking twelve and just figured out how to critically think or b) it's a bait thread.

>>701763805Some people aren't born with opportunities. Some people are born into lower class families who can't pay for higher education. The military offers education for free, and helps pay for college when you get back. A huge portion of America's military come from poor families. The military offers opportunities. And not all MOS's are combat related.

Besides that, there is military tradition in some families. The military instills discipline and other values like loyalty and sacrifice. It forces you to work hard in order to achieve. This is good for you.

If you're actually this stupid that you think there is no benefit to joining the military you're literally retarded. The only explaination is that you're blatantly trolling or reacting to some "hero" worshipping garbage on facebook. Stop being a fag and read a book or something nigger.

>>701795138>>701795386>Disagreeing with me is stupid>It's not logical to disagree with me>I'm right! I can't do anything about the things I'm complaining about because I don't understand how things work and just want to childishly scream about how it's all wrong!

>>701795386OK I'm just a bystander who saw this post on the end of the thread, but nothing pisses me off more than people who are pseudo-intellectuals that simply say shit like "YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE IRRATIONAL AND ILLOGICAL" and resort to insults without furthering their argument at all and think because they used big words that makes them a genius just like mommy and daddy told him/her when he/she was a kid.

lmao, in the military, you sign your fucking life over to people who would never think about your existence once. You are a meat shield. Your purpose is to do dirty work for your boss. They do not care if you die, they will send you anywhere. You shoot weapons that cost more than you will ever make sacrificing your fucking life at people who will never have that kind of fucking money in their lifetimes.

>inb4 you're just a pussyA pussy is a fag who go and signs off his life to kill sand niggers because the government wants him to

>Mum left when I was little>Dad beat the shit out of us constantly>good at school but needed to get out>joined Para reg at 17>few tours later thought fuck this>left>did a foundation degree in Biosciences>now work in a biofuel lab synthesising fuel from blue-green algae>life is good now

>>701763805Well for one the have all the things most people here would kill for..

Lovely gf or wifeHouseSchoolInsurance

All this stuff that you guys get from mommy lol and im glad you think EVERY part of the military is just frontline grunts.If you're worth a shit and join, youll be behind a computer-except in awesome shape, lots of confidence and extra money.

Its honestly a lot better than being a whiner on a japanese image bored at 3 am. Being too "woke" and too "smart" to bother going outside and attempt to live a little. But hey, if you re not instantly good at something and cant find a job, might as well make fun of the others who were smart enough to know they need assistance and a form of discipline they didn't get growing up Inb4 wahhhh goodluck being cheated on

- Getting free education that would otherwise cost thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars- Making around 50,000 dollars a year while getting your food, water, electric, and everything else paid for you for free- Joining an organization that teaches discipline and to achieve your goals at any cost- Getting disability support for life from VA- Joining an organization that will give you connections and making you much more marketable to employers

>>701796274>"You still haven't provided anything to prove you're not a moron, on the contrary, your inability to present logical arguments continues to show how stupid you are"

Nobody talks like this in real life. Professors don't talk like this in real life. People with doctorates in English don't speak like this in real life. Authors don't write like this. Nobody talks like this.

You're trying to sound smart when in reality you're so self absorbed in your own pseudo-intellectual world you don't realize how pretentious you are.

>>701796570I really don't think anyone would leave you alone with kids. Crying about children when you're the creepy /b/ weirdo their mother would cross the street to avoid. Do you really think anything through before you say it?

What is your opinion of the annales school of history? Have you read Fernand Braudel's " The Mediterranean and the Mediterranean World in the Age of Philip II"?

I have the 3 volume Folio Society edition.

Do you feel that their contribuion to history and historiography have supplanted the great man/great event perspective, or has it enhanced all perspectives by introducing daily life, weather patterns, climatology and other non-political , non-military topics?

Well firstly because I'm not OP and never bothered to read your shit wall of text original post.

In response to everything you've said though.

I came from a ghetto, I'm black, I learnt software engineering using a c++ book from the library when I was 12, I build a start up when I was 21 I'm now 27 and am earning 250k+ via multiple sources of income.

Annnnnddddd I didn't risk my life shooting at sand niggers for some old fat white guy in DC.

If you needed the military to teach you all those things I ready knew at 12.. Then you, are a fucking retard.

>>701797053I didn't say that joining the military is your only option, I'm just saying it's not a bad one. He's saying you have to be retarded to join the military when it clearly offers many benefits.

Also, why is it that you all keep acting like because you're in the military that means you're an infantryman? 80% of the military is non combat MOS. 80%. Tell me again how this is a bad way to go? Just because there are different options doesn't make the military a bad option. Just like working in the government, it has its upsides and its downsides. For one, you'll have a stable job and income and get benefits. On the other hand, you won't make as much money. Is one inherently better? No. Same for this.

>>701797919Still arguing at a 10th grade level.How have I found this shit show so amusing?No I'm not in high school, let's not bring that into this because I don't think you have enough education or taste to argue at that level.

>>701798145Why? It worked out fine for me. The work wasn't hard, it paid for my degree, I was able to get a decent job with my degree and experience. Worked out pretty well for me. How was that retarded?

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