We're a little late, but Real Life got in the way, so here we finally are. Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition has been released. This version focusses on improvements in cloud computing on the server using Eucalyptus, further improvements in boot speed, as well as development on Netbook Remix. The related KDE, Xfce, and other variants have been released as well. Update by ELQ: Just a quick note to say that one of my Creative Commons videos was selected to be part of Ubuntu's Free Culture Showcase package that comes by default with the new Ubuntu version!

It's not like they are muppets who cannot make their own decisions and would fall for mere hype.

Maybe Fedora should tone down their public claims about the stability of some of their software projects? Or at least give other distros the inside track on the real problems. Or maybe other distros should just watch what Red Hat is willing to accept into their distro. But then, Red Hat hasn't made a release since early 2007. (Violating their long-held promise to of 18-24 month releases, BTW.) Still waiting for Fedora to produce enough stuff that's actually stable, I guess. Seems to be taking longer than they expected when they made the release interval promises.

"Maybe Fedora should tone down their public claims about the stability of some of their software projects? "

You are again being silly. All the developers who decided that Ubuntu, Mandriva, SUSE, Debian and Nokia N900 must include PulseAudio by default are not stupid.

"Or at least give other distros the inside track on the real problems."

What inside track? It is a public open source project.

Anyway, quit your repeated and irrational trolling about Fedora. PulseAudio is not a Fedora Project anymore than say GTK+ is a Fedora Project. These are independent upstream projects later funded by Red Hat.

If you hate Ubuntu so much for including PulseAudio, take it to them. Fedora Project is not responsible for Ubuntu's own decision to include PulseAudio by default and include broken patches and configure it in a way that causes issues.

PulseAudio is not a Fedora Project anymore than say GTK+ is a Fedora Project. These are independent upstream projects later funded by Red Hat.

So... you are now distancing Fedora from Pulseaudio rather than giving Fedora "credit" for it? OK. Maybe that wasn't you. Maybe it was a large number of other Fedora advocates. But I do recall a lot of credit attribution regarding Fedora and Pulseaudio.

You have a habit of calling those who disagree with you "silly". I will refrain from reciprocating.