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“Look! I Am With You All the Days”

[Originally published on April 22 of this year, this is a re-posting (with some additions) of a review of the second study article in the July 15 issue of The Watchtower which explains our new understanding of Jesus’ parable of the wheat and weeds.]

Before continuing, please open the article to page 10 and take a good look at the illustration at the top of that page. Do you notice anything missing? If not, here’s a hint: Concentrate on the third panel of the illustration.

There are nearly eight million people missing and unaccounted for! The weeds are the imitation Christians mixed in with the wheat—anointed Christians. According to our official teaching, the wheat number only 144,000. So in the harvest there are two types of Christians, anointed Christians (wheat) and imitation or false Christians (weeds). And the millions of “other sheep” whom we claim are not anointed but have the hope of living on earth, what of them? Surely Jesus wouldn’t ignore such a large group of true followers?

This highlights the first flaw in our interpretation. We used to say that this parable applied to this secondary group by extension. Of course, there is no basis for a “by extension” application of this or any other of the kingdom-of-God-is-like parables, but we had to say something to explain away the discrepancy. However, we do not even make that attempt in this article. So millions are completely excluded from its fulfillment. How nonsensical!

Let us analyze the key points.

Paragraph 4

“However, since they were overgrown by weedlike Christians, we do not know for certain who belonged to the wheat class…”

We often like to classify things in our interpretations. Hence we make reference to the “evil slave class”, or the “bride class”, or in this case, the “wheat class”. The problem with this policy is that it promotes the idea that the fulfillment is on a class or group level rather than on individuals. You may feel this is a negligible distinction, but in fact it has led us to some awkward blind-alley interpretations, as we are about to see yet again. Suffice it to say at this point that changing the application of this parable’s weeds and wheat to a weed class and wheat class is done without any scriptural foundation.

Paragraph 5 & 6

The application of Mal. 3:1-4 is correctly made to the time of Jesus. However, the subsequent paragraph speaks of “the larger fulfillment”. This is one of a number of “just believe” moments in this issue’s study articles. From a Beroean perspective, this is alarming evidence of a growing trend of late that requires us as Witnesses to simply accept without question something we are being taught by the Governing Body.

Malachi’s prophecy was fulfilled in the First Century, in part when Jesus entered Jehovah’s place of true worship, the temple in Jerusalem, and forcibly cleared out the money changers. He did this on two occasions: The first, only six months after becoming the Messiah; and the second, 3 ½ years later at his final Passover on Earth. We are not told why he didn’t do this cleansing of the temple during the two intervening Passovers, but we can assume that it wasn’t necessary. Perhaps his initial cleansing and subsequent status among the people kept the money changers from coming back until three years had passed. We can be sure that had they been there during the second and third Passovers, he would not have turned a blind eye to their ongoing transgression. In any case, these two actions were seen by all and became the talk of the nation. His temple cleansing was visible to faithful follower and bitter enemy alike.

Is that the case with the “larger fulfillment”? The antitypical Jerusalem with her temple is Christendom. Did something visible to friend and foe alike happen in Christendom in 1914 to indicate that Jesus had returned to the temple? Something to surpass First Century events?

[As we continue this discussion, we have to ignore the elephant in the room, namely that the entire premise of the article is contingent on the acceptance of 1914 as the start of Christ’s invisible presence. There is no scriptural basis for this premise as we have shown in numerous posts in this forum. However, we will be instructive if we accept it provisionally for the sake of our continued analyze of the reasoning in this article.]

Paragraph 8

In an attempt to prove Malachi’s prophecy was fulfilled from 1914 to 1919, we are first told that some Bible Students were disheartened because they hadn’t gone to heaven during that period. That is true, but what does this have to do with the inspection and cleansing that Jesus was supposedly performing at that time? Many more were disheartened from 1925 to 1928 when Rutherford’s prediction that the resurrection had already happened proved false. (2 Tim. 2:16-19) Reportedly, many more left the Society over that debacle then left due to the failed predictions surrounding 1914. Therefore, why isn’t that time period included in the inspection and cleansing? No explanation is given.

To show how bad that period was, we can turn to page 337 of Your Will Be Done on Earth.

We stopped publishing the memorial attendance figure after 1926, possibly to avoid further embarrassment and discouragement. However, according to Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose, pages 313 and 314, the memorial attendance in 1928 was only 17,380. Quite a drop from the 90,434 of just three years earlier.

One report says the preaching activity from 1914 to 1918 dropped by 20%. (See jv chap. 22 p. 424) Well, there was a world war on. That does tend to put a crimp in one’s preaching style, doesn’t it? If that drop was an indication of Jesus’ cleansing, then what was he doing from 1925 to 1928 when the memorial attendance dropped by not 20% but 80%? There was no war on then. So why the drop? Was it due to a lack of patience as suggested in our publications or was it rather that many were disillusioned by false hope as a result of an indiscreet and presumptuous false teaching? Which time period merited a cleansing, if there was to be one at all? More important, what is our basis for saying there is any parallel in our day with Jesus’ chasing of the money changers out of the temple? No parallel, no cleansing. No cleansing, then the rest of the argument is moot.

Next, we are told that there was opposition arising from within the organization. Four of the seven directors rebelled against the decision to have brother Rutherford take the lead. These four left Bethel and that resulted in “a cleansing indeed”, according to the article. The implication is that they left voluntarily and as a result we were able to proceed without the contaminating influence of what we until recently called “an evil slave class.”

Since this is brought up as proof of an inspection and cleansing performed by Jesus and his Father from 1914 to 1919, we have a duty to search out the facts and verify that “these things are so”.

In August, 1917 Rutherford published a document called Harvest Siftingsin which he explained his position. The key issue was his desire to assume complete control over the Society. In his defense he stated:

“For more than thirty years, the President of THE WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY managed its affairs exclusively, and the Board of Directors, so-called, had little to do. This is not said in criticism, but for the reason that the work of the Society peculiarly requires the direction of one mind.” [italics ours]

Rutherford, as president, didn’t want to answer to a Board of Directors. To put it in modern JW terminology, Judge Rutherford didn’t want a “governing body” to direct the work of the Society.

Besides a 7-member board of directors, The Will and Testament of Charles Taze Russell called for an editorial body of five members to direct the feeding of God’s people, which is exactly what the modern day Governing Body claims to do. He named the five members of this envisioned committee in his will, and added an additional five names when replacements were called for. Two of the ousted directors were on that replacement list. Farther down the list was Judge Rutherford. Russell also directed that no name or author be attached to published material and gave additional instructions, stating:

“My object in these requirements is to safeguard the committee and the journal from any spirit of ambition or pride or headship…”

The four “rebellious” directors were concerned that Judge Rutherford, following his election as president, was manifesting all the signs of an autocrat. They wanted to remove him and appoint someone else who would respect the direction of Brother Russell’s will.

From the WT article we are led to believe that once these directors were ousted; that is, once Jesus had cleansed the organization, the way was open for Jesus to appoint the faithful slave to feed the flock. From the last article in this issue we are told that “the slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence….that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body…”

Is that what happened? Did the supposed cleansing resulting in part by the ousting of these four directors clear the way for the editorial committee that Russell had envisioned and willed to take place? Did it clear the way for a governing body of anointed brothers to oversee the feeding program; to be appointed at the faithful and discreet slave in 1919? Or were the worst fears of Brother Russell and the four ousted directors realized, with Rutherford becoming the sole voice of the brotherhood, putting his name on the publications as author, and setting himself up as the so-called appointed channel of communication of Almighty God to the brotherhood?

Shall we let history and our own publications provide the answer? Take, as but one example, this photo from The Messenger of Tuesday, July 19, 1927 where Rutherford is called our “generalissimo”.

The word “generalissimo” is an Italian word derived from generale, plus the superlative suffix -issimo, meaning “utmost, to the highest grade”. Historically this rank was given to a military officer leading an entire army or the entire armed forces of a nation, usually only subordinate to the sovereign.

The removal of the editorial committee was finally achieved in 1931. This we learn from the sworn testimony of no less a witness than brother Fred Franz:

[The following is an excerpt from the libel trial brought against Judge Rutherford and the Society by Olin Moyle.]

Q. Why did you have an editorial committee up to 1931?

A. Pastor Russell in his will specified that there should be such an editorial committee, and it was continued down till then.

Q. Did you find that the editorial committee was in conflict with having the journal edited by Jehovah God, is that it?

A. No.

Q. Was the policy in opposition to what your conception of an editing by Jehovah God was?

A. It was found on occasions that some of these on the editorial committee were preventing the publication of timely and vital, up-to-date truths and thereby hindering the going of those truths to the people of the Lord in his due time.

By the Court:

Q. After that, 1931, who on earth, if anybody, had charge of what went in or did not go in the magazine?

A. Judge Rutherford.

Q. So he in effect was the earthly editor-in-chief, as he might be called?

A. He would be the visible one to take care of that.

By Mr. Bruchhausen:

Q. He was working as God’s representative or agent in running this magazine, is that correct?

A. He was serving in that capacity.

If we are to accept that a cleansing took place from 1914 to 1919, then we must accept that Jesus cleared the way for Judge Rutherford to have his way and that this man who dissolved the editorial committee in 1931 and set himself up as the sole authority over the anointed—their generalissimo—was appointed by Jesus to be his Faithful and Discreet slave from 1919 until his death in 1942.

Paragraph 9

“’The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things,’ said Jesus. (Matt. 13:39) That harvest season began in 1914.”

Again we have a “just believe” statement. No Scriptural support is provided for this statement. It is simply stated as fact.

Paragraph 11

“By 1919, it became evident that Babylon the Great had fallen.”

If it became evident, then why is no evidence presented?

This is where our redefinition of the weeds and wheat from individual Christians into classes gets us into interpretive trouble. Classifying the weeds as all other Christian religions allows us to say the weeds were gathered in 1919 when Babylon fell. There was no need for the angels to pluck individual stocks. Anyone in those religions was automatically a weed. Yet, what evidence is presented that this weed harvest happened in 1919? That 1919 is the year that Babylon the great fell?

We are told the preaching work is the evidence. As the article itself admits, in 1919, “Those taking the lead among the Bible Students began to stress the importance of sharing personally in the Kingdom preaching work.” Still, it wasn’t until 1927 that all witnesses were expected to engage in the door-to-door preaching work. So the fact that we stressed the door-to-door preaching work for all kingdom publishers in 1919 was enough to bring about the fall of Babylon the great? Again, where do we get this from? What Scripture has led us to this conclusion?

If, as we claim, the harvest of the weeds was completed in 1919 and they were all gathered into bundles ready to be burned during the great tribulation, then how are we to explain that everyone alive at that time has since passed on. The weeds of 1919 are all dead and buried, so what are the angels going to throw into the fiery furnace? The angels are told to wait until the harvest which is a conclusion of a system of things (“the end of an age”). Well, the system of things didn’t end for the generation of 1914, yet they are all gone, so how could that have been the “harvest season”?

Here is perhaps the biggest problem we have with this whole interpretation. Even the angels are not able to accurately identify the wheat and weeds until the harvest. Yet we are presuming to say who the weeds are, and we are declaring ourselves to be the wheat. Isn’t that a bit presumptuous? Shouldn’t we be letting the angels make that determination?

Paragraph 13 – 15

Matt. 13:41, 42 says, “The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be.”

Is it not clear from this that the sequence is, 1) they are cast into the fire, and 2) while in the fire, they weep and gnash their teeth?

Why then, does the article reverse the order? In paragraph 13 we read, “Third, weeping and gnashing” and then in paragraph 15, “Fourth, pitched into the furnace”.

The attack on false religion will be a fiery tribulation. That process will take time. So at first glance, there seems to be no basis for reversing the order of events; but there is a reason, as we’ll see.

It is distressing to sincere truth seekers when we make a statement that is patently contrary to what is plainly stated in scripture. Matthew 24:29 says “Immediately after the tribulation of those days…” after which it goes on to describe events that precede Armageddon; events that precede what is next described in the texts cited in paragraph 14: “During the great tribulation, after all organized false religion has been destroyed, former adherents will run for cover but will find no secure pace to hide. (Luke 23:30; Rev. 6:15-17)”

How can “former adherents” run for cover during the great tribulation if that tribulation has already ended with the destruction of “all organized false religion”? For this to be true, the tribulation would have to continue right on through to the completion of Armageddon, but that is not what Matthew 24:29 describes.

Paragraph 16 & 17

We interpret the shining brightly to mean the heavenly glorification of the anointed. This interpretation is based on two things. The phrase “at that time” and the use of the preposition “in”. Let’s analyze both.

From paragraph 17 we have, “The phrase ‘at that time’ evidently refers to the event that Jesus had just mentioned, namely, the ‘pitching of the weeds into the fiery furnace.’” (Note to reader: a word search in the WT Library will reveal that “evidently” is a keyword frequently used when we are engaging in unfounded speculation.) In this case, we are reversing the order of events Jesus described to fit with our preconception that Armageddon is part of the great tribulation. Paragraph 15 has just explained that the fiery furnace refers to “their total destruction during the final part of the great tribulation”, i.e., Armageddon. It’s hard to weep and gnash your teeth if you’re already dead, so we reverse the order. They weep and gnash the teeth when religion is destroyed (Phase one of the great tribulation) and then are destroyed by fire at Armageddon—phase two.

The trouble is that Jesus’ parable is not about Armageddon. It is about the kingdom of the heavens. The Kingdom of the heavens is formed before Armageddon starts. It is formed when the ‘last of God’s slaves is sealed’. (Rev. 7:3) A comparison of verses 29 and 31 of Matthew 24 makes it clear that the completion of the work of gathering (the angelic harvesting) occurs after the great tribulation but before Armageddon. There are many “Kingdom of the heavens is like” parables in the 13th chapter of Matthew. The wheat and the weeds is but one of them.

“The kingdom of the heavens is like a mustard grain…” (Mt. 13:31)

“The kingdom of the heavens is like leaven…” (Mt. 13:33)

“The kingdom of the heavens is like a treasure…” (Mt. 13:44)

“The kingdom of the heavens is like a traveling merchant…” (Mt. 13:45)

“The kingdom of the heavens is like a dragnet…” (Mt. 13:47)

In each of these, and others not included in this list, he is talking about earthly aspects of the work of selecting, gathering, and refining the chosen ones. The fulfillment is earthly.

Likewise his parable of the wheat and the weeds starts with the words, “The kingdom of the heavens…” (Mt. 13:24) Why? Because the fulfillment has to do with the selection of the Messianic seed, the sons of the kingdom. The parable ends with the completion of that task. These are not selected from the world, but from his kingdom. “The angels collect from his kingdom all things causing stumbling and persons…doing lawlessness”. All those on earth claiming to be Christian are in his kingdom (the new covenant) just like all the Jews in Jesus’ day were in the old covenant. The destruction of Christendom during the great tribulation will be the fiery furnace. Not all individuals will die then, otherwise, how can they weep and gnash their teeth, but all false Christians will cease to exist. While individuals will survive the destruction of Babylon the great, the false practice of Christianity will cease to exist with the demise of all organized religion. (Rev. 17:16)

There is, therefore, no need to reverse the order of Jesus’ words. (It’s never a good thing to play with Jesus’ words.)

What about the second reason for believing the “shining brightly” occurs in the heavens? Does the preposition “in” require us to view this as indicative of a physical location? If so, then we have all the proof we need that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will go to heaven, although this is currently contrary to our teaching.

“But I tell YOU that many from eastern parts and western parts will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens;” (Mt. 8:11)

The fact is that the fulfillment of Mt. 13:43 may very well be literal, but it also may be figurative. Consider this use of a figurative location for the Kingdom of the heavens employed by Jesus:

(Luke 17:20, 21) . . .But on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them and said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness, 21 neither will people be saying, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For, look! the kingdom of God is in YOUR midst.”

If Mt. 13:43 is fulfilled as we state in this article, then no one on earth will be able to confirm it, as the fulfillment will be in heaven, far removed from human eyes. Was that what Jesus intended to convey?

We seem to feel the need to have all the answers in our publications. The fact is, we don’t. Still, there’s nothing wrong with speculating. For example, I could speculate that the fulfillment of Mt. 13:43 comes thus:

At the time that the weeds and wheat are identified to the world, the wheat will shine brightly in the sense that all will know who the true Christians, God’s chosen one, really are. These are the ones that Jesus judges as his faithful and discreet slave. Others are judged as an evil slave, the weeds, because both Mt. 13:42 and Mt. 24:51 use the same phraseology in describing both as ‘weeping and gnashing their teeth’. These weep and gnash their teeth as seeing those they have persecuted now exalted by God to a favored status. But there are others who are not described either as faithful and discreet nor as evil. These ones are beaten with many or few strokes. (Luke 12:47, 48) Are these the sheep described in Mt. 25:31-46 who by virtue of kind acts to Jesus’ brothers making up the faithful steward get life? Or will that group be made up of others? Will these form the “people gathered together out of the nations, [one] that is accumulating wealth and property, [those] who are dwelling in the center of the earth” that Ezekiel describes as being attacked right before Armageddon? (Eze. 38:12)

Who can say?

In Summary

It’s all just speculation. We’ll have to wait for the reality to know. Like we said, speculation is fun and relatively harmless. It only causes problems when we insist others treat our speculation as interpretation, which belongs only to God. Unfortunately, anything printed in our publications is not regarded as speculation, but official doctrine, and any questioning of it is dealt with most harshly.

We know from the interpretation that Jesus gave us that the wheat are true Christians, the sons of the kingdom; and the weeds are false Christians. We know the angels determine which is which and that this is done during the conclusion of the system of things. We know the weeds suffer a horrible punishment while the sons of the kingdom shine brightly in God’s kingdom.

Why did Jesus speak this parable? What can we take from it? One, we can set a personal goal to strive to be among the wheat, to be among the sons of the kingdom. Two, knowing that the weeds would continue amongst the wheat right up to the end, and that they would be difficult to distinguish from the wheat, we can take heart that even though we are suffering evil in the congregation, it is not because Jehovah has abandoned us, but rather that the weeds are still having their day, but their day will end.

(2 Corinthians 11:15) . . .It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.

(1 Peter 4:12) . . .Beloved ones, do not be puzzled at the burning among YOU, which is happening to YOU for a trial, as though a strange thing were befalling YOU.

(Matthew 7:21-23) . . .Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

As for the rest, we’ll just have to wait and see.

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About Meleti Vivlon

I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. For four decades, I served as an elder. During my life, I have pioneered, served in two Bethels, and preached extensively in three countries. I was still serving as an elder when a friend and I began Beroean Pickets (www.meletivivilon.com) as a site for unbiased Bible research. We wanted a safe place where we could engage with other like-minded JWs (as well as other sincere Christians) in deeper study unfettered by the increasingly restrictive environment of our Organization.
As a result of the truth that has been uncovered, I no longer serve as an elder. However, I continue to associate actively with the congregation. While this can be a delicate line to walk conscientiously, I believe I can best help my brothers to come to a more accurate knowledge of truth by continuing to be there for them. I do this mindful of Paul’s example as expressed at 1 Corinthians 9:19-23.
I do not presume to claim knowledge of the whole truth. What I have come to realize is that the way to God is through Christ and allowing the authority of men into the mix hinders and will eventually stifle that relationship. We have but one master and while others can help us understand his message, he speaks to us all directly through the Holy Word. If our spirit is open to his and not clouded by bias, pride, nor fear, he will reveal himself to each of us.

18 thoughts on ““Look! I Am With You All the Days””

At the AGM in Jan 1917 Rutherford got new by- laws passed which in effect gave him overall control. The specifics of these by- laws were referred to by Van Amburgh in the Olin Moyle trial in 1943. Further evidence that Rutherford was regarded as the successor faithful and discreet slave or steward can be seen in a short pamphlet published in 1917 about the Parable of The Pennywhich was an
extract from an address given at the Boston Convention of the I. B.S. A., August 4th, 1917.
Rutherford himself established the Golden Age magazine in 1919 in defiance of what had been agreed with Russell before he died.Rutherford wrote articles for the Golden Age and although not the official editor, he kept a tight control over its contents. Starting in 1920 with the notorious Millions Will Never Die publication Rutherford personally authored many books, pamphlets,booklets, and Watchtower, Golden Age and Consolation articles. Besides this he made many radio broadcasts and it was only his recorded talks that were played at the public’s homes.
Rutherford personally controlled the society through the office of the President , and was overall responsible for the quality of the spiritual food provided. A quotation from the 1943 yearbook clearly shows the claim that in 1919 Jesus appointed a slave and the slave was made up of a small group of anointed brothers who were directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence….that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body…” is false.

(4) That for more than sixty years Jehovah has used
faithful men, C. T. Russell and J. F. Rutherford, as his
servants to fill the office of president, the chief executive
office of the Society, to oversee the affairs of the earthly part
of Jehovah’s organization under direction from the Lord;
(5) All faithful servants of the Lord have recognized that
The Theocracy, of which the Watch Tower Bible and Tract
Society is a servant, operates from the Top down, and not
from the bottom up as in the worldly governments, and,
therefore, that instructions come to the Lord’s people on
earth from the office of president of the Watch Tower Bible
and Tract Society, filled by anointed men chosen of the
Lord in his organization;
1943 yearbook pp 168-9

If the appointment of the FDS was made by Jesus in 1919. Wouldn’t we think that they would have known about it clearly back then? Would Jesus have left them in doubt as to what their work was to entail? Why has it taken them close to 100 years to clearly understand to whom the appointment was given (or not given)?
And why has it taken them so long to understand over what they were appointed?
If they have made changes to their appointment over this period from 1919 to now, have these changes been sanctioned by the one appointing (Jesus)? If the Domestics over which they are assigned the work to feed have changed, then who where they feeding or not feeding since 1914?
The fact is this July issue of the Watchtower raises many, many more questions than it answers?
I believe there is a chance that now all future AGM will be used to dispense new light.
We wait with baited breath this October since this time the AGM program will be broadcast to all English speaking nations around the world simultaneously.

I think it’s good that our understanding of Matthew 13:42 is now much closer to what that text actually says. Now we just have to get new light saying that they weep and gnash their teeth WHILE being destroyed, instead of during the great tribulation during the lull after the initial phase and before their actual destruction at armageddon, the final phase of the great tribulation.

I think it’s clear from the bible that the actual harvest of the wheat takes place at the very end when they are gathered to heaven. It cannot also involve the wheat being gathered into the “restored Christian congregation” as insinuated in paragraph 12. Why? At harvest time the wheat are gathered out of the field and into the storehouse. In Matthew 13:38, Jesus says that the field represents the world. Now, where exactly is the location of this “restored Christian congregation”? Is it not in the world – still in “the field”? Therefore the harvest of the wheat into the storehouse must involve nothing less than their complete removal from the earth. Jesus did not speak of the harvested wheat being transplanted to a new field free of weeds prior to being gathered into the storehouse, did he?

The Watchtower of July 15th, 2013, pages 10 and 11 include a timeline. This timeline states:
Firstly, that the harvest begins in 1914, “The weeds are collected and bundled”.

Secondly, since 1919 ‘the wheat has been gathered into the storehouse.’

In support, Matthew 13:30 is cited, it states: “Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.”

Two events or actions are described here. Firstly, the bundling and burning of the weeds, and secondly, the gathering of the wheat into the storehouse.

The timeline then indicates that, “Shortly before Armageddon, the remaining faithful anointed ones are gathered into the heavens” thereby “shining brightly”, and that after this “At Armageddon, the weeds are pitched into the fire”.

However, taken in order, Jesus stated that the bundling and burning of the weeds precedes the gathering of the wheat. This sequence of events as recorded in the Scriptures does not agree with the sequence of events as outlined in the timeline. The timeline states that the wheat is gathered prior to Armageddon and the weeds are pitched into the furnace at Armageddon.

Matthew 13:42 is cited in the timeline diagram to support these conclusions. Matthew 13:41- 43 states: “The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.”

Both Matthew 13:30 and Matthew 13:41 – 43 refer to the same parable. In verse 30 the parable is stated, and in verses 41 – 43 it is explained. Insight on the Scriptures, volume 1, page 1178, paragraph 8, states: “Weeds among the wheat (Mt13:24 – 30). Explanation is provided by Jesus, as recorded at Matthew 13:36 – 43 …”

For clarity it is important to restate that in verses 24 to 30 of Matthew chapter 13, Jesus first relates the parable. Then in verses 36 to 43 of the same chapter he merely rephrases and explains it. However, the timeline uses verse 42 (Jesus’ explanatory comments) to establish two new events or actions in the timeline. These explanatory comments are not new features only now being introduced to the parable for the first time. They are merely explanatory comments, nothing more nothing less.

Clearly then both references relate to the same parable and therefore the same two events. The first action being, the binding and burning of the weeds, and the second, that of gathering the wheat into the storehouse.

However, the Watchtower article refers to five* separate actions/ events spread over an extended timespan of almost 100 years thus far, and what’s more, is yet to continue beyond that into the future for an undetermined period of time. This means that each of the five events or actions relative to each other is separated by time. Jesus plainly stated that the weeds would be bound and burned and then (after that, thereafter) the wheat would be gathered. Put simply, two successive actions, not five events unfolding separately over a period of more than100 years.

Furthermore, the timeline asserts, that the gathering of the wheat into the storehouse began in 1919, adding that, “Anointed Christians are gathered into the restored congregation”.

At this point we should remind ourselves of Jesus’ words that the wheat would be gathered into the storehouse. This begs the question where is the storehouse? Is it the “restored congregation” here on earth or is it in the kingdom of heaven? Jesus himself provides the answer. In verse 43 of Matthew chapter 13 he identifies the location of the storehouse by saying: “At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father.” Could there be more than one storehouse, one here on earth and another in heaven? Any such notion is not found in either the illustration as related by Jesus or in his subsequent explanation of the parable. Clearly, there is only one storehouse, in heaven. So why, then, does the timeline state that “Anointed Christians are gathered into the restored congregation” (storehouse)? What’s more, are there two gatherings one on earth and one in heaven? Certainly not! The illustration of the weeds and the wheat neither states nor remotely implies that such is the case.

Very well put, Silas. Thanks in particular for clarifying how the Watchtower has erroneously deduced a five-part timeline where none exists. I find it remarkable that they can so unabashedly contradict Scripture and yet no one calls them on the mat for it. We are afraid to.

How can they say that the “weeping and gnashing” comes first, then the fire, when Mat. 13:42 says, “they will pitch them into the fiery furnace.

there is where

the gnashing of their teeth will be.” Really?! Can it be said any more simply and clearly?

In a few days ahead, we will receive the “trump card” that really “clears-the-air” about the special “insight” being given to the Governing Body, at Headquarters, and the “spiritual food” they provide for Jehovah’s Witnesses and even the world over.

We recall this point being made in the July 15th, 2010 magazine, which states:

July 15, 2010 WT page 22, 23:

“Would all anointed Christians “shine”? In a sense, yes, for all Christians would participate in preaching, in disciple making, and in building one another up at meetings. Anointed ones would set the example. (Zech. 8:23) In addition to this, however, deep things were to be revealed during the time of the end. The very prophecy Daniel recorded was “sealed up” until that time. (Dan. 12:9) How and through whom would the spirit search into these deep things?

When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, HOLY SPIRIT HELPS responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to DISCERN DEEP TRUTHS THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY UNDERSTOOD. (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all. (Matt.10:27) As time goes on, further clarifications may be needed, and these too are honestly explained.”

End of quote.

Given that information noted above, there can be no doubt, the following paragraph featured in the upcoming article “Who Really Is The Faithful and Discreet Slave?” REITERATES that vital point that all Jehovah’s Witnesses must remember, namely the identification of the special time period known as the “PRESENCE OF CHRIST,” since the significant date of 1914, actually determines who is to be considered part of this special entity we call the “Faithful & Discreet Slave.” It states:

Paragraph 10

“Who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave? In keeping with Jesus’ pattern of feeding many through the hands of a few, that slave is made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food DURING CHRIST’S PRESENCE [mine: since 1914]. Throughout the last days, the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave have served together at headquarters. In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Note, however, that the word “slave” in Jesus’ illustration is singular, indicating that this is a composite slave. The decisions of the Governing Body are thus made collectively.”

End of quote.

So we are made to be aware, even though first century Christians were so privileged as to perform miracles, raised the dead, many willingly dying a martyr’s death for Christ, and even were used to write 27 books of the bible under inspiration, wherein back then and even now in modern times, we Christians must acknowledge we are still FEEDING UPON this inspired “spiritual food” itself, still these first century followers of Christ, were NOT so privileged to live during the special time we call the “Presence of Christ,” since 1914, and thus cannot be considered the Faithful & Discreet Slave. This is an amazing point, in my opinion!

Indeed, when we think about it, this paragraph (#10) itself poignantly shows the tremendous importance being attached to that particular date, by all Jehovah’s Witnesses world wide. It is highly important that we understand that fact, unequivocally.

In the study article, “Look! I Am With You All The Days,” an interesting point surfaces. Paragraph #6 of that particular article says this:

“What is the larger fulfillment of Malachi’s prophecy? During the decades leading up to 1914, C. T. Russell and his close associates did a work like that of John the Baptizer. That vital work involved restoring Bible truths. The Bible Students taught the true meaning of Christ’s ransom sacrifice, exposed the hellfire lie, and proclaimed the coming end of the Gentile Times. Still, there were numerous religious groups who claimed to be Christ’s followers. So a crucial question needed to be answered: Who among those groups were the wheat? To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.”

Therefore we learn, Pastor Russell himself (who died in October of 1916) and some others of the faithful anointed, were not alive when Jesus made his historic move to begin the all-important “inspection” [in 1914] and begin to separate the “weeds,” and later finally gather the “wheat” into his “storehouse” in 1919. Which of course means, These ones who did a “John the Baptizer” type work [like CT Russell] of restoring bible truths, would have died and gone to heaven, at least by the time the true “wheat” began to be gathered in the “storehouse,” in 1919.

Next, we learn something very interesting, about our theology and belief system concerning the anointed and the heavenly resurrection that they receive, we learn something that we have taught now for very many years in fact, in our public ministry. In paragraph #12 of this very same study article, we learn this fact:

Quote paragraph #12:

“Second, gathering the wheat. Jesus commands his angels: “Go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.” (Matt. 13:30) Since 1919, anointed ones have been gathered into the restored Christian congregation. FOR THOSE ANOINTED CHRISTIANS WHO WILL BE ALIVE AT THE END OF THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS, the final gathering will take place when they receive their heavenly reward.—Dan. 7:18, 22, 27.”

So then currently, especially with the release of this particular magazine, all Jehovah’s Witnesses publicly teach there is a two (2) stage sort of heavenly resurrection of the anointed going to heaven. By that I mean, there is an initial group, like first century Christians and others like CT Russell and company, individuals who had died before the “wheat” could be gathered into God’s “Storehouse” [in 1919], and those who are of the “anointed” who were left “alive” upon this earth to continue that very same spiritual “restoration” of pure worship and public preaching activity that distinguished Jehovah’s Witnesses and which we are famous for the world over. So far, so good?

Okay.

So then, here is an interesting question that we may encounter in our public field ministry, because of this unique understanding.

The Churches of Christendom have been continually telling us Jehovah’s Witnesses in our public field ministry, there is going to be a “rapture,” where the “living” on earth that belong to the Lord Jesus, are going to “meet the Lord in the air,” along with the “dead” who are raised in Christ, and they all go to heaven…together. They keep telling us this. Just about every baptized Jehovah’s Witness who goes regularly out in field service has encountered this viewpoint at one time or another, including the Governing Body, I’m sure.

Therefore,

How are we going to explain why the word “TOGETHER” in clearly shown, under inspiration I might add, in 1 Thessalonians 4:17? Why is that word there?

1 Thessalonians 4:17 clearly says:

“Afterward we the living who are surviving will, TOGETHER WITH THEM, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord”

“…Together with them,” it says.

Doesn’t that mean, “together” with the “dead,” who are raised to Heavenly life?

We are told, the “living” anointed who “survive” till Christ “comes” for them, “WILL NOT PRECEDE” the dead, in the heavenly resurrection … right? (verse 15)?

Didn’t Paul specifically use the word, “together” in our New World Translation, in verse 17?

So if all the “anointed” go to heaven, “together,” just Paul said under inspiration, then how can there be a two (2) stage heavenly resurrection of sorts? One group going directly to heaven, others of the anointed, who “survive,” and continue to live out their lives on earth, to prove their integrity to God Almighty, Jehovah? (In fact, some might even say this time period now, extends a century or 100 years, since the heavenly resurrection began, back in the early 1900s, with some of the “surviving” living anointed, still present on earth.)

Consider this:

In 1 Corinthians 15:23, 24 we learn the resurrection process in divided up in three particular specific time periods.

(1) The first one shown is Jesus’ heavenly resurrection, superlative in rank & nature and ahead of all others, raised to “Incorruption & Immortality,” first among all who participate in gaining life after death.

(2) Next in rank of importance, the resurrection of heaven-bound anointed, specifically mentioned at Jesus’ “PAROUSIA,” where all who “belong to Christ” and are resurrected to heavenly life to be with Jesus, forever.

(3) Then Paul mentions, finally, the earthly resurrection. This one he explains, under inspiration, occurs, “…AT THE END,” or at Armageddon, where Jesus visibly vanquishes “all government and all authority and power,” that of his enemies, particularly the political armies of Satan’s world in opposition to God’s Kingdom. He puts these “enemies” clearly “under his feet,” in destruction, does he not? (1 Corinthians 15:24, 25)

All of this means, we must by necessity, separate the “heavenly” resurrection [done at his “parousia”] from the earthly one which would include people that were NOT RIGHTEOUS,” as mentioned Acts 24:15 as well as shown clearly at Daniel 12:2. These scriptures, are making reference to an EARTHLY RESURRECTION, where it shows us both, good and bad people are to be raised and given life on earth, again. And clearly, Paul point-blank says this occurs, “AT THE END,” when all governments of Satan are destroyed, isn’t that so? When, all “enemies” are put “under his feet.” (1 Corinthians 15:24, 25)

So then, why are we Jehovah’s Witnesses teaching people publicly, the heavenly resurrection continues right up to Armageddon? Aren’t we “hodge-podging” both resurrections, smashing them together, bringing one up to the other, making both resurrections happen still, at his “coming,” during the “Great Tribulation”? Aren’t we doing this, I ask?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Of course we realize, such a viewpoint would raise serious questions, if correct, about our entire belief system, would it not? Because if such a viewpoint was correct, then just as all Jehovah’s Witnesses currently believe, in the year of 1919 [or somewhere before that date] the “heavenly” resurrection of the anointed, occurred, then our entire belief system needs a SERIOUS OVERHAUL.

Yes because if that were true, it would mean all of the “anointed” went to Heaven, at least by that year [1919] … “TOGETHER,” yes, “to meet the Lord in the air.” All of them went to “heaven” … AT THE SAME TIME. Which means…no anointed were left on earth, since the year of 1919…right???

And if that’s so, then all of the true “anointed” heaven-bound servants of Jehovah, and followers of Jesus, have been in heaven since that year [1919], with ONLY … only the “Great Crowd” of “Other Sheep” left on earth, to write all of our “enlightenment” found within the pages of the Watchtower Society’s publications, again since that year [1919]…isn’t that so???

“Of course we realize, such a viewpoint would raise serious questions, if correct, about our entire belief system.”

Oh you mean like that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the ‘ancient worthies’ might just be raised up, bought by Christ as Rutherford surmised they would in the first resurrection? How often I’ve thought the only argument we have of David NOT going to heaven was Acts 2:34: “Actually David did not ascend to the heavens.” It didn’t say David WOULD NOT ascend to the heavens. So again, dogma is formed by our shortsightedly discrediting what the scripture is REALLY saying.

Regarding the various comments made in relation to the history of the WTBTS, Russell and Rutherford: In researching this subject over the past year, it appears to me that there was a vast difference between these two in their leadership style. Pastor Russell did not claim that everything he wrote in the publications was “written in stone”, while according to multiple first hand accounts, Rutherford ruled with an iron hand and claimed Divine Authority to the “Letter of the Law”. As an experienced attorney, Rutherford was skilled in legal argument and utilized that skill effectively in representing Russell in court. When Russell died, according to information published at that time, Rutherford used his legal expertise to manipulate his takeover of the WTBTS in direct opposition to Russell’s Last Will and Testament. He had this Will declared invalid on a legal technicality immediately after Russell’s death.

I realize that this is an oversimplification of the entire scenario, and there are pieces to the puzzle that I have not as yet discovered. I am assuming that Rutherford participated in the production of Russell’s Will since he did handle every other legal matter within the WTBTS. Thus the question arises: Did Rutherford intentionally design Russell’s Will to be easily declared invalid so that he could seize control of the WTBTS after Russell’s death? However, whether or not this is factually true, to me the end results are highly questionable.

This situation combined with many other issues that have been revealed regarding Rutherford has left me with another question: Did Jehovah actually appoint Rutherford to run the show? WHY would Jehovah appoint an alcoholic for one thing? No human is perfect, but since alcoholism only gets worse over time, why would Jehovah appoint him under these circumstances? [See links BELOW] King David was appointed by Jehovah to rule over his people, and he made some serious mistakes, but overall he had many good qualities that made him desirable to Jehovah. I can’t seem to find similar qualities in Rutherford.

Thus my next unsettling question: Since Rutherford “laid down the law” during his 25 year reign as “King”, can we really consider all of this as divinely inspired by Jehovah? So many interpretations, so many rules and regulations, so many unquestioned doctrines issued forth from Rutherford’s mouth and pen. Since Rutherford’s leadership over JWs still effects JWs today, it seems to me that in “retracing our steps” from the past, this is one of the major reasons why there are so many inherited teachings that are not supported by the scriptures. Rutherford also set a precedent whereby those following him maintained the same power and control by claiming Divine Appointment and Divine Revelation.

Please note that I am saying “It SEEMS to ME….I am not meaning to imply that these are undisputed facts, just that this entire situation has created these questions in my mind, for the following reasons:

I was truly shocked when I read these following letters from men serving at Bethel to JF Rutherford, President of Watchtower Society for 25 years:

May I make a suggestion? If you haven’t already done so, you might benefit from reading ALL of the posts on this site. Many of the troubling issues you mention (i.e. Olin Moyle letters) have been addressed here.

I have the same issues with Rutherford that you do. I disagree that alcoholics only get worse. There are steps that can be taken, such as completely eliminating alcohol consumption, that control it. This is only my belief, but I do not believe true alcoholics can be social drinkers.

As a word of caution, I don’t find it beneficial to post links to anything Danny Haszard has written. I find him to be all over the net and is bitter, bitter, bitter. His postings benefit few if any.

Thank you Dorcas for your suggestion to eliminate links connected to websites permeated with bitterness. I avoid those websites now, but when I was first investigating the history of the WTBTS, I had to follow the trail wherever it led to. Thankfully I finally discovered this website and a few others which are helping me to untangle the facts from the fiction. [Perhaps it would be wise to remove the two links that I posted regarding Beth Sarim and Beth San, in order to prevent sincere truth seekers from ending up on that website]

I totally agree that those suffering from alcoholism can absolutely improve their lives and their behavior IF they stop drinking completely. I also believe the evidence supporting the inherited predisposition to alcoholism in the DNA, especially since this disease is present within my own family tree and that of my ex-husband. Therefore in living with alcoholism within my family including my ex-husband for many years, I have witnessed the downward spiral in the progression of the negative behaviors caused by continual alcohol consumption. This is what I meant in saying that “alcoholism only gets worse over time”…..resulting in increasing anger, aggression, power and control issues, including physical, verbal and emotional abuse. Alcoholics are not “bad” people, they are instead under the influence of the effects of alcohol. Obviously Jehovah can help anyone with this serious problem to stop drinking for their own sake and that of their families….but only IF they WANT to. My own personal experiences with alcoholics within my family is why I question Rutherford’s claim that he was appointed by Jehovah. Rutherford’s wife and son refused to live with him, however I have not discovered any direct evidence that the reason was Rutherford’s drinking.

Hi, StillHaveFaith. I’ve removed the links based on your wishes as expressed in your discussion with Dorcas. I do appreciate your comments however. It is hard to imagine who Jehovah could have appointed such a man as Rutherford as we are now alleging. I rather like the wording of the God’s Word Translation of 2 Cor. 10:12

“We wouldn’t put ourselves in the same class with or compare ourselves to those who are bold enough to make their own recommendations. Certainly, when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves to themselves, they show how foolish they are.”

Since there is no scriptural nor historical support for the statement that Rutherford was appointed by Jesus, one has to think this is yet another application of Paul’s words to the Corinthians.