Post below comments about modeling contests that aren’t linked to any agency or that don’t have their own page. List warnings for scams, but you can also post a thumbs up for contests that are worth it.

Skylei even the name makes me laugh,Anon you walked into a nightmare coming into contact with Skylei.she has a reputation for drama and instability.Don’t let her bother you she’s a moron and has some serious mental problems. Just laugh and move on that’s what most people do.

Skylei is well known to cause bs and drama wherever she goes. Then she comes AR and plays “nice-nice” posting under her Skylei Caproni name and then changes to Anonymous and slanders people she is jealous of and doesn’t like as well as modeling agencies. I am sorry for you, I agree with everything you said about her. She has major issues.

What say all the defenders of Amutey …hummm? she is still at it…well do we drag her off? throw stones at her?? what??anybody have any suggestions?? I guess the fact that no one buys her crap, nor even visit her “store” seems to work..I know! let us all ban/mute her at once then maybe she will disappear.

Amutey DeCuir left SL some time ago and either sold or gave her account to whomever is using it now. This person doesn’t care that those of us who know that Bliss no longer exists don’t shop there as he/she is preying on newbies who think they’re getting a great deal and don’t have a clue that Bliss has been “going out of business” for 2 years. It’s not likely to stop until LL steps in and pulls the account, which probably won’t happen because they are not really violating the TOS…they are just annoying to those of us who know better but unfortunately, that’s not a crime.

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I don’t know when Amutey went from being a high end designer to a scam artist. What a shame. She has diminished her brand and her reputation in SL. Close. The. Store. Already. Enough is enough…it makes me wonder if she sold her AV to somebody who is canibalizing what is left of her brand. I was never a big fan of her stuff but this is just ridiculous. Reminds me of that other place that took a couple years to close and marked everything down to 25L. Disgusting.

I’ve had it. I’m leaving the Bliss Couture group and blocking Amutey Decuir. The length of this “closing sale” has gone from sad, to pathetic to downright ridiculous. There comes a time when one must graciously take their bow and leave the stage while the crowd is still applauding. To remain on the stage after the applause has ended, only serves to cheapen the performance and the performer. Amutey has missed the opportunity to leave the stage with grace and dignity. She has transformed from an elegant swan to a sad clown. In doing so, she has tarnished her image and the perceived value of her creations forever. Take your final bow and exit stage right, Amutey .

You word it so nice, however the applause stopped long ago for this person, the sale has gone on for about a year and a half, there is no bow for her unless they drag her off the stage, one that I might add has few expectators only those morbid enough who are waiting for her to slash her wrists and bleed in agony to slow death……

I noticed there is a trend of modeling agency owners disappearing from SL without giving proper updates to their customers, management and models, after all the time and efforts others have put into the agency so the owners could experience their dreams. SL can be just a virtual world but it shouldn’t stop a person of being responsible and courteous. While RL comes first but how about a note to say “Sorry, I have other priority, the agency is now closed. Thank you for all your hard works” or “It’s a mistake, I have no idea how to run an agency. Sorry for driving everyone crazy. Now I need to exit.”

Just extremely disappointing to see these so-called respectful individuals walk away without closing the agencies properly, especially it doesn’t cost them a single cent or even 5 minutes to send a notice.

How many agencies will really sustain in SL even they are run by big names? Are these individuals genuinely passionate about operating an agency? or just using other’s times to fulfill their own hunger of fame?

Well this is hilarious. Fifth Avenue aka Fashion Critique has just very clearly outted themselves as Seashell Dench. We all guessed it, but her blisteringly biased self promotion on Scala versus Trempe leaves no doubt. You are a bitter little thing, aren’t you Seashell? Terrified of competition?

“Transparency”, how transparent are you? Why don’t you log in wordpress with your own blog or avatar? If this an issue of competition between two agencies, then you are Anna Saphire or any of the Trempe group, no doubt about it.. That’s what we all assume. It’s actually great to accuse Seashell, even without any evidence, because all known models and agency owners in SL, have had their share here at AR. Was about time for Seashell to have her spotlight already. Good for Scala!

Is this how far Trempe goes just to attack Scala? Anna Saphire, you are showing your true colors now. Everybody knows how sad and miserable you are!!

Now, that you’re at it, explain to us all how somebody can take shots of herself and an entire fashion show, and walk at the same time.
Cause Sea has been commented on Fashion Critique blog, with photos of shows she was in, so she did all that? Took photos of all the models, and herself, walk the runway herself and then go blog that stuff?? Cool! I’ve been following Fashion Critique blog for several years, in October 2010, there’s a video of an Avenue fashion show, and one of the models there was Sea – I was in the audience that day, I saw who the models were. And you, Anna Saphire, were NOT in that show!

Besides taking photos of herself, all the models in the shows she is walking with, she also FILMS the shows she is in and blogs anonymously ? WOWW, Anna Saphire, you’re a sad little woman, sad attemptto try and bring Sea and Scala down. You are the ones who really seem afraid of competition. Crystal clear now!

I have nothing to do with Scala or Tempe. I’m a very good BLVD model who was never able to get into Avenue only because Seashell doesn’t like me. I’m very happy to see her finally exposed, and it’s very good to see all the Scala staff posting abuse under anonymous names to HA HA

Oh I’m sure it is Seashell. A couple of years ago, we all knew for sure that Fashion Critique was Poptart and then , later, we all were absolutely positive it was Nave Fall LMAO, Bottom line, we all know that everything that is posted here on AR is the truth, don’t we? Depending on the moment, this Fashion Critique thing is like a huge conspiracy; it’s a mix of Seashell, Poptart, Nave and a couple of more people. It always depends on who that blogger talks about LOL, you can pick who ever fits best your own “interests” 😉

lol I agree with Know it all we all thought it was those people she named, still until this day i don’t know who Fashion Critique is but who cares anyway?If you clam to be this high fashion model and your really not, What do you expect but to be Critique?

Since this is a general rant and rage area as well as a place to post scams it fits well: Can I hear a loud “I M SICK OF AMUTEY DECUIR” from those who are SICK of blisscoutureandthelongestclosingsaleofSL. This woman has been “closing” forever, and has gone from being a 6 rate designer to a top 10 drag (no queen here-folks), sweeping away all vestige of honorability and reputation, with what is now clearly a scam to clean out her store of old crap, she has failed her loyal customers yeah the little people, those who paid full linden for the crap, by cheapening the items and making it such a joke that no one can wear any of her things, without feeling like the Walmart special, (ok for toilet paper but not for “couture”) at this point I do not think people even want the free stuff. So Amutey a bushel of rotten tomatoes for you, and a blue ribbon of classless. You should be banned from ads in all groups, for trolling and spam.

I am also sick and tired of never-ending Bliss spam notices from too many groups but I was too scared to say anything. Bliss closing sale is a huge scam. I am really tired. Amutey Decuir please for Gods sake GO AWAY. I am tired of your crap. I deleted most Bliss gowns in my inventory. they are worthless junk. please just go away before linden labs ban you for scam.
Bliss Couture = pile of Junk!! Worthless Crap !!

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Natzuka is no longer partnered with Blackliquid? she is now with Lybra Rage who we all know now is a guy, but started SL with a female avatar, not telling back then “she” was a “he”! Now, he even dares to have a RL photo in his profile!
Guy with balls this one! he kinda pretended in the beginning he didn’t have them, maybe to relate to other guys? We probably have here a case of gender indefinition, freudian blah blah blah

Rusch Raymaker was partnered with Absinthe, they broke up and then poor Raymaker opened a new SL account to keep being with her beloved – supposed to be some kinda secret , dun tell.

Nothing like hot summer holidays to have hot love affairs in SL! There is nothing else to do.

Thank you so much for your interest in blackLiquid’s personal relations although I am not sure how they correlate to her professional abilities as a model. Perhaps you can shed some light on that.

She is a beautiful Avatar & Human beyond that, I am not her puppet nor was I at any point. Natzuka, blackLiquid, Lybra and I are all very close as family should be and have great affection for one another. Beyond that we support each other through real life issues which span far beyond Virtual Fashion.

Separately although I do not know Rusch or Absinthe on any personal level, nor am I speaking on their behalf. It occurs to me that witch hunts or the spreading of gossip and rumors about individuals may be what causes them to do exactly what you accuse them of. If in fact they are on some alt’s and happily sharing some bond of love or exploration of their own happiness. It would seem to me that as fellow humans we should applaud their successes and bliss in those areas.

It is my experience that the human creature is one which is exponentially capable of giving and receiving love and through that experience growing. Love does not mean sex, nor does it mean puppetry, nor a trophy. For me love is the capacity to know and comprehend oneself and through that know how we can in turn accept and embrace others, through this I evolve.

May you find love, light and bliss Doctorlove if you have not yet done so. Also may you recognize that these types of blog posts are hurtful to some and that not everyone has the same ability to simply brush something off.

Therefor if your objective is to hurt others, may I suggest that perhaps it would benefit you to dig a bit deeper and do some soul searching in order to figure out why exactly it is that you care what others are doing with their personal time. Especially when you are simply stating assumptions based on what are most likely quick observations.

As I have evolved in my life Doctorlove I have seen so much more clearly that life is so much easier when we simply applaud each other when we gain. Yet when we see another fall, to extend a hand if we can and if we can not, than at least carry on, and not push them down. Take this all as you may, and know that if you have any questions on my being a puppet you can ask and if it is something that is any of your business (Highly Unlikely) I will reply.

Previously I noticed that this page compared itself to a Zagat on another post. Well I think Zagat sticks to specifics about their target industry, I would assume that if the point of this site is to serve the same purpose it would follow the same order. By providing their input and critique on modeling and fashion, as well as fashion industry events and businesses. However prying into someone’s love life is a bit more paparazzi, stalker, gossip, rumor mill style in my extremely humble opinion.

No need to tell us you are not Natzuka.You can actually string a comprehensible sentence together.It is pretty obvious you are not her.
As for Blackliquid’s love life.I don’t think anyone actually cares what she does these days.

It really is not very nice to make those types of comments. Natzuka is quite capable of holding a conversation as well as stringing together a sentence. Whether or not I am her was not something I was aware was in question. Rest assured, if there is any doubt in your mind – that I am not her. In rl I am a man from the U.S.A..

If no one cares what blackLiquid is doing on her personal time, than I think that is some rather splendid news. As her personal time and dealings are rather irrelevant to how she handles her business or or how well she can manage to style or work as a model.

Your sad dysfunctional family needs some counseling.Lybra can’t even decide what gender he is and we can’t decide what species Black is.Who are you anyway Bastien? Another one of Blacks alts?It looks like you got smacked in the face with a ugly stick or did Absinthe make you over?

Lol Bastien the truth hurts ! a great human Blackliquid? love is bought to this day with gifts, contacts, and a place to stay.. lmao you know how many call soul mates or grieta lovely? a person who changes partner every month? only uses people for not stay alone and being told every day how wonderful it is! have a serious problem called EGO

now again other parnert ? toy or alter ? LMAO someone will take her seriously is not stable?

and your family do not even know what want, always the same circle of people, wacky and zany! believing its personality?

Frolic is not sincere accusing Yula. He said a bunch of nasty words to protect shop owners such us Lazuri trying to hurt genuine person as Yula. It is easy to see the lie of Frolic with 2 photos.
Real life
Secondlifehttps://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Lazuri-Classic-Glamour-Necklace-Color-Change/4050997
And Lazuri is the first ads in his magazine.
Frolic has to have shame not Yula.
he shows not human compassion and only poor business strategy
but he invents this horrible lie about Yula.

Since new comer models are all loosers, now ex models started to create new alts for modeling world. They are entering MVW, licking arse of Avenue etc etc. I have many model friends who shined during 2011-2012 now they are creating new avatars. Many of us already know new avis they had a fast start on modeling World.. Guess WHO they are?:))

Well, Xanadu, I think you need to remember that in RL friends and family types receive discounts on services all the time and people don’t complain if they don’t receive the same courtesy. Even at the workplace people negotiate their own salaries to the point that two, or even an entire department, of people often don’t make the same money doing the same job. What matters is that each person pays for a service if they think it is a fair price for what they receive in return. That is why nothing will happen to Frolic and business will go on as usual because he provides a valuable service to content creators that they are willing to pay for. If he provides discounts to friends and family then that is his prerogative and “normal” creators will think nothing of it because it is a practice that has always existed and they feel they are still getting a fair deal for their services.

But thank you, anyway, for your comments. You just helped prove, once again, what a pathological liar Yula is when you explained where she buys her meshes. On more than one occasion she has claimed to be making her own meshes. Of course, everything she says is taken with a grain of salt since everyone knows she exaggerates and fabricates tales to make herself look better in the eyes of her contemporaries. So no worries, we all just get a good laugh when she talks anyway.

And for the record, Belle does a much better job of constructing her jewelry into something fashionable which is more than I can say about Yula. They are FAR from the same in skill even if they use similar methods.

Well, Xanadu, I think you need to remember that in RL friends and family types receive discounts on services all the time and people don’t complain if they don’t receive the same courtesy. Even at the workplace people negotiate their own salaries to the point that two, or even an entire department, of people often don’t make the same money doing the same job. What matters is that each person pays for a service if they think it is a fair price for what they receive in return. That is why nothing will happen to Frolic and business will go on as usual because he provides a valuable service to content creators that they are willing to pay for. If he provides discounts to friends and family then that is his prerogative and “normal” creators will think nothing of it because it is a practice that has always existed and they feel they are still getting a fair deal for their services.
But thank you, anyway, for your comments. You just helped prove, once again, what a pathological liar Yula is when you explained where she buys her meshes. On more than one occasion she has claimed to be making her own meshes. Of course, everything she says is taken with a grain of salt since everyone knows she exaggerates and fabricates tales to make herself look better in the eyes of her contemporaries. So no worries, we all just get a good laugh when she talks anyway.
And for the record, Belle does a much better job of constructing her jewelry into something fashionable which is more than I can say about Yula. They are FAR from the same in skill even if they use similar methods.

It is really frustrating when you join a contest only to discover the shop owner has to make changes because she is too busy in her real life. Well models have a real life too and we have to plan and make sacrifices to meet our commitments when we sign up. At least we are serious when we commit to virtual tasks because we know that for a lot of designers SL is their primary source of income! When i joined Muse 2014 i removed other tasks from my agenda and it will be difficult to do that yet again. It’s pretty obvious that she’s making this excuse to hide from SL after she lost her sponsorship from Frolic Mills because of her own big mouth and stupidity. Her big ego prevented her from making a proper apology even though she was totally in the wrong. Then to use an excuse that her real life is more important than mine or any other persons. In fact i remember a quote from her on her blog where a person said that they hadn’t been in SL because RL was more important and she joked about that person saying it wasn’t possible for RL to be more important than SL. Well maybe she only feels that way about our lives and not her own. Pathetic. I guess it’s better to to join a serious designer such as Chop Zuey.

I don´t know what to think about SL anymore. I lost the pleasure to log in and be in contests, fashions shows, etc. If you enter some contest, owner choose who will win and the rest of ppl has to be happy just to be there, smile and act like is everything is ok, otherwise they will say is bad for your reputation and bla bla So…. stay quiet!
What to say about some agencies too? Kiss right ass, do what they say and bla bla
I give up of everything… I am tired of the same names everywhere. Same ppl … same everything. New faces dont have chance.

I don´t know what to think about SL anymore. I lost the pleasure to log in and be in contests, fashions shows, etc. If you enter some contest, owner choose who will win and the rest of ppl has to be happy just to be there, smile and act like everything is ok, otherwise they will say is bad for your reputation and bla bla So…. stay quiet!
What to say about some agencies too? Kiss right ass, do what they say and bla bla
I give up of everything… I am tired of the same names everywhere. Same ppl … same everything. New faces dont have a chance.

There is no conspiracy against Yula Finesmith. The true source of the problem is Yula herself with her avatar of multiple personalities that she created in her seriously deviated mind. She has long demonstrated the pathological need to be the center of attention. She wants others to see her as the number one jewelry designer and have each magazines’s CEO and models kneeling at her feet. But what is the basis for her rationale? It is certainly not on the basis of creativity or technical prowess, since it is obvious that she lacks the necessary skills. Motivation, alone, is not enough to become a designer, it also requires talent. She does not possess even a little creative talent or any of other requirements that are necessary to be a great designer (e.g kindness, patience, ethics). How can anyone demand the title of a talented designer when she uses ready made templates with full perms available for one everyone on marketplace them reselling them as her own? Even with minor changes it is not her own.
A true creative designer does not assemble ready made pieces that are purchased or copybotted from other crestions! At most, you could label her in the category of a mediocre level builder. If there are anypleasing parts located within any of her products they are not the result of her imagination but the results of the ideas of her models that shared web links of real jewelry with her for which they desired a virtual version. For many of the things she created in SL, it is possible to find a corresponding version in RL, proof that she has no imagination of her own (at least regarding the pieces she actually sells). She has claimed in magazine articles to have been a real designer of jewelry with certificates in RL, but it is enough to look her virtual products to understand she is a liar in that regard.
Yula’s real life is just another artifact and LIE of a perverted mind. She has told so many conflicting stories about herself that even she probably no longer knows the truth. It’s probable that the origin of her disease stems from the fact that in her real life she has never been able to accomplish the objectives for she had set out for herself and always finds excuses for her failure. There are so many good and talented designers In Sl but Yula is not one of them.
It’s been far too long now that Yula does everything to discredit the reputation of Belle Roussel, simply because she is jealous of her talent, of her success and the esteem with which the models and Frolic Mills have for her. Belle reflects the personality of the real person who created this avatar. The real identity of Belle Roussel is known, she does not hide behind an avatar. The real successes of Belle Roussel are demonstrated in the field of music. A successful businessman, such as Frolic Mills, likes to deal with real and mature persons such as Belle Roussel. He does not have time for the childish and immature games of the drama queen Yula! He likes Belle because she is a genuine person who runs a professional business. Yula, on the other hand, is a megalomaniac who can not prove anything about about her real life claims. She suffers of grandiosity, that fills her full of envy and jealousy for others to the point that she must try to destroy those talented people with lies, deceit and treachery. Yula suffers because she is greedy and she cannot accept the fact that the only way for her to bit of attention in SL is to pay the magazines. She needs to learn that those designers that obtain discounts or free services from a magazine are designers that have demonstrated a real reputation with a high level virtual skills! She should be thankful that those magazines offer her the possibility to advertise her business by paying them despite her poor skills. Those magazines have a reputation too and they could just as easily lose their readership by publishing too much crap.
(it is awful suspicious that someone is posting here against Frolic and Scientology when one of her alts was member of an anti scientology group)

Yula and Belle both not original content creators, they don’t make their jewellery in Blender! Both Yula and Belle assembel jewellery using building blocks made by original mesh creators like Ghanie, Bejambled,Xoph. That is how sl designers works. You cannot say Belle creative but Yula bad, because both have same building style.

You know who made owls in chop zuey Mystery of Owls ring? Belle did not sculpt owl in blender, Owl made by Gumi’s! Ring and gems made by creators like Ghanei, bejambled, Xoph. Belle assembelled pieces from 2-3 creators, made a ring, and named it Mystery of Owls. Im not saying Belle did wrong. Mesh creators license work full perm for Belle to assembel.

Same way Yula buy flowers from Gumi’s and original flower maker. Yula buy gems from bejamble and Yula has license to assembele flowers and gems to make necklace for sale!
Yula and Belle use same building style and practice, one designer NO better than other! Yula also buys her parts and flowers full perm from mesh creators. That is not stealing. she has LICENSE on full perm mesh to make and sell end products for customers any way she likes. Yula has license to use all parts in her build just like Belle has license to use and sell owls.

If Yula stole original creation show photo of Yula copybot creation with proof. Did original mesh creator complain Yula selling his creation with no license?

For many of the things Belle created in SL, I have seen a corresponding version in RL too! Will you like it if I say Belle has no imagination of her own? Both Yula and Belle use rl products for inspiration. Crucifying Yula and worshipping Belle prove conspiracy.

Frolic can give Belle all discount he wants. I dont care if he remain with belle as his only customer. Fact – Belle is a freeloader. If she cannot afford pay she should not be in magazine or have store in upscale mall. Paying customers dont want their store next to freeloader store. Paying customers dont want their advert next to freeloader advert, big $$$ paid to be exclusive, not to be placed behind freeloader! Value of magazine is way down with freeloaders appearance, all wonder who is freeloader and who is paid, paid designers all brought down to freeloader level? where is value? I know designers will say ta-ta bye-bye if Frolic remain doing free marketing for Belle, insult other designers. He runs magazine on other designer money, and use their money to free market Belle? Why other designer contribute fund freeloader marketing project? why? He can kiss arse Belle, insult other designers, till none left to take insult!

Designers accomplishments in RL is none of my concern. However I am concerned about how they conduct themselves in SL and I am sick and tired of this non-stop drama created by Finesmith and Chop Zuey. I really don’t care who is right and who is wrong..just had enough!
To all the models taking sides and arguing passionately…none of your frickin business so just shut up! Think twice before you slander any brand…what is in it for you?

Here is the proof for Yula that Frolic is using his bad schemes to punish an ruin her for a single mistake. Frolic has no proof against her but he uses horrible methods that he learned over many years. http://www.our-home.org/juandelgado/success.htm

Frolic has sl legitimate business and gain nothing by destroying Yula in fact he loses Finesmith business. Yula is a drama queen may be got caught red handed doing something. But I really can’t imagine Frolic risking reputation over this!

We have to look another angle too. If Yula really innocent then Belle Rousell and cronies must have started new rumor to destroy Yula ( I know i upset some chop zuey fans sorry. but it is true. Belle is the only person I know plotting destroy Yula)

I really cant imagine Frolic helping Belle though. it is not his good interest as he loses credibility big time. I know he gives Belle free stuff and discounts all the time pissing off other designers but this is way bigger. I know good designer got upset and left bosl mall when she found Belle pays just 1000L/week for her shop when Frolic makes other designers pay 1500L/week (belle even had store free for months before before she got discount rent) Frolic lost credibility giving Belle special rent discount! Belle brags and brags about free adverts she gets from bosl . In short we have to look into Frolic Belle relationship also before coming to any conclusion.

Is Frolic working with Belle to ruin Yula? I doubt it – but Frolic giving Belle discounts, free stuff and marketing makes us wonder!

This will be the first time I utter this blog. I read the reviews Regarding Frolic and also about Belle. I think what people do not understand is: SL is a game but like any business RL, he does not live with air, needs money. If were are so simple, everyone would have 4 islands, one agency, and 6 magazines in that game if they could. I believe in the trustworthiness of the Frolic Millis, I already worked for your magazine, never failed to get pay me as a Graphic Designer, never been rude to me in any way, whether in magazine or the MVW. I think there is a huge drama upon his figure. Regarding belle guess absurd talk of it being the sweetest person I have ever met and gentle. I meet her store on 2010 and she always was a great designer. It is no secret that her store already has years of SL. If she pays less than the others, it is a matter of contract, that does not disqualify more or less. Each can impose its price per job or accept the contract. This is called negotiating, every entrepreneur does. Dream of utopia is good, but does have the feet on the ground. Businesses like Nike are standing today because they know negotiate not believe there is a problem with that. I find it interesting points of view that I see here, but I believe that I can also put my opinion as ex-worker and ex-miss.

What’s happened between MMV and Yula? Did I heard something about Frolic accusing her of copybotting in response to some other accusation from Yula? Can someone shed some light on this for me before I make any more purchases from her?

@ Curious Customer
I’d contact Yula Finesmith inworld and listen to her side of the story. Then, would contact Frolic so that he can provide you with real evidence of what you heard -ask for real evidence, not just Frolic’s word on it. With both sides of the story, and clear evidence, you may have a more clear insight of what’s going on and find the truth.

The rules of the internet people! Be safe and don’t forget to buckle up!

1st Tier Enemies — Not only do they post the most vituperative commentary about you, they viciously stalk you around the Internet, posting everywhere you post to try to smear your reputation, finding you where you live — even in real life! They ferret out RL data and use it to vilify you; they post outright falsehoods. These types of enemies loathe your very being and want you gone from the Internet — they aren’t just kvetching about one beef. Beware!

2nd Tier Enemies — They have a private grudge, a vengeance over some imagined or even real slight, and they post on your blog or on their own blogs against you, or ban you from their blogs, but they don’t really cross the street to harass you. They won’t be calling you in RL, thank God! And they are unlikely to keep researching you to try to come up with “dirt”.

3rd Tier Enemies — These types privately slam you and condemn you and keep you off the lists of the best parties, but they may even feign friendship or even fail to ban you from land or blogs. They may dis you — then pretend to apologize. They can often have the most deadly influence, but until you catch them in the act, don’t put them in 1st Tier — they may be able to be converted to friends!

So can we talk about how ridiculous Style Kingdom is? It aspires to be at the forefront of SL fashion magazines, but its really a crappy Walmartesque catalogue. The owner can pump as much money into it as he likes to hire the best photographers, but its still absurd and irrelevant.

I think every magazine is actually relevant and important, but when I see Style kingdom claiming they have thousands and millions of visitors sustained by a website completely irrelevant to SL then that’s a misrepresentation of factual statistics. These are the losers that give every publication a bad name.

They are not fooling anyone though, and neither is Fashion Teller who only appeals to the models who actually made it in their casting. Then again if it’s fun for them, then let it be, but don’t lie about the “millions” of viewers because we all know the truth.

They brag about impressions on Issuu. “Impressions are something your publication get whenever a user simply look at your publication. Like a thumbnail of the cover or an embedding somewhere on a blog.” (see http://help.issuu.com/entries/22116847-Statistics)

This is a fairly meaningless statistic when it comes to talking about how many people actually read the magazine. A more telling statistic would be reads: “People who actively engage with your content are readers. Readers spend time in your publication, navigates, searches, and so on. Simply skimming the pages like you’d do at the local newsstand, wouldn’t count as a read, but as an impression.”

Although, since the magazine consists mainly of pictures, most people would simply skim it. On the other hand, it looks like you can game “impressions” by embedding it all over the internet too.

Its unfortunate that they invite this sort of criticism by doing so much bragging. Interesting, relevant and quality content will speak for itself.

This completely irrelevant website is what nearly every SL magazine publishes in nowadays, some ONLY is Issuu. Can’t be that irrelevant. Sounds like someone has sour grapes to me. If Dougie pays his advertising to get thousands, why not?

And we don’t care if people like or dislike the fashion teller lol. We do it for fun, and those in our group enjoy it, if they don’t, they are always free to leave and they know this🙂 If we have fun doing it, that’s all that is important. SL is for fun, some people need to remember that lol.🙂

Does your blog have a contact page? I’m having trouble locating it but, I’d like to
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Hello everyone,
I’m so sorry to disturb you..
I just want to let you know that i came back to Secondlife..
After 2 years of dissapear will i re open Fashion-in-look my agency again. And even some old friends are able to come back to Secondlife🙂.. See you all soon and please save your horrible comments about me.. So we will be all nice to eachother..

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To be honest… Lostnero & Frolic are the sweetest guys i have ever met in my sl life. I don’t like why you should say this about them. First you should start looking to yourself. And the everybody who knows Lostnero personally would agree with me that he is one of the sweetest guy inworld. But haters gonna hate.. Just because you can’t be like him doesn’t mean that you can say such a awful thing. I would almost call you. E.V.I.L

Great post. It is really sad that some people look at others and criticize someone who they don’t even know. I guess you know you have become something or someone the moment “they” start talking $hit about you on Agency Report it out of spite, envy, cattiness and says more about them than it does about the person they are trashing. I have to say, if you are going to post something nasty, put your name to it. Own it. Don’t be ashamed! Speak your mind, but not behind Spanglish or Bitch, Or Question. Stand by your statements and own them. Come into the light, because as they say, daylight is the best disinfectent.

Much love to my bros in Love – Frolic and Lost, Steele and World…. Hey what can I say I am a FAG HAG and proud of it.

October Bettencourt – “the believer that honesty is the best policy and hiding is for cowards”
Owner and CEO of October Studios.

Oh come on October you are full of shit.. What do you mean honesty is the best policy. Blah.. check it out, all your lies.. Dont pretend how honest and nice you are.. I know who is your alt so give me a ffs brake. Do not pretend, you are the best pretender (aka Christie) I have ever known in sl

You are right I am not a nice person to those who have pissed me off. Those who have know that I will cut you. Second I don’t lie. Why should I? However 90% of the crap posted on this blog is nothing but lies from people who have no lives.

And by the way, my rl name and my alts name are not Christie. Not even close. Stop spreading lies and hate when you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. It is super easy to post something on a blog under an alias rather than signing your name to your post. What are your afraid of? The truth? Or being called out on your ignorance.

Whoever reads this site are losers for sure, of course including me. I am a loser like you people who are so so bitter, bitch jealous and for sure ugly in rl. When someone is successful in sl and you did not win all of you bitch right away and write your ugly remarks. You people are losers for talking shit all the time here. Hehehe I am deleting my account here starting tonight so I can exclude myself to be a losers like you bitches.

Whoever reads this site are losers for sure, of course including me. I am a loser like you people who are so so bitter, bitch jealous and for sure ugly in rl. When someone is successful in sl and you did not win all of you bitch right away and write your ugly remarks. You people are losers for talking shit all the time here. Hehehe I am deleting my account here starting tonight so I can exclude myself to be a losers like you bitches.

At this time ALL pageants in SL are jokes. I can say some castings too…. because you need to kiss some asses to pass. Know some ppl. Doesnt matter if you are a good model, if you know to choose poses, style clothes good… Kiss the right ass, and you are in…

Who’s alt is Sahirah Lure of BDSM Black Sheets Magazine? Reminds me so much of Patty Cortes of Glance International. During their model contest old Glance employees swarmed around there like bees including stylist Amalia Foxtrot….

Oh snort; this one isnt rocket science. Sahirah Lure – she owned the Alura sim under the name of ImpaTwin.Toxx. Her character name was Madam Sahirah. I was once there at a a party the same time both Patty and ImpaTwin were. They are not the same people. They are poles apart.

Remember Avenue promoted this sim in December 2011 and had the entire fashion industry buzzing? Do some research or at least know your history if you are going to cast aspersions.

I find it interesting that whenever someone is successful and popular in SL they get accused of having no RL by a bunch of anonymous haters – honestly – it’s probably people who takes SL so seriously they need to spread venom who needs a shrink lol

CMan-Loser does not apply to every aspect of SL. Just to a few of those I’ve had PERSONAL experience with and I know something about their RL as opposed to guessing like you are. In this case, my observation is correct, so sorry. Anyone who is “jealous” of a cartoon is true loser as is anyone who pays money into a game in order to be what you call, Yawn3, “successful and popular”. Because let’s face it. Anyone who is willing to spend 15 plus hours a day, continue to pump funds they can’t afford into SL and brown-nose to people they don’t even know who they really are can be “successful and popular.”

What’s there to be jealous of ? An ugly avatar with an ugly personality who licked ass and spends all of the money she doesn’t have on a virtual world for her virtual life because she doesn’t have a real life.

Yay! A chicken and a fox did win this very confusing pageant. They said it wasn’t a modeling contest, They said licons and all other creatures were invited to participate, they also said, it was all about personality (judged by ignorants in a 5 minute interview), and so on…

At the end, it all came down to two loosers no where to be found in the SL modeling world.

Congrats newbies, Have fun with your imaginary crown that no one cares about. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Confused.. You are very ignorant, I hope you know that. Just people cause you do not know these people who won the contest does not mean that they are not know by others.I have been following these feeds and I just think it is just simple ridiculous with all these negative comments. Why cant we all just be happy for the winner and not try to bash them just because of your own ego or just because you do not know them. To be honest, I have known Brendan for years especially when he began his modeling career. He also has been the director of Costa Rica Productions (which is no longer do the sim’s owner.) . and participated in numerous projects in the SL Grid. He is well know for starting Broadway Cares in SL for raising money for HIV/AIDS awareness. Do your research everyone before you speak. Just becuase people are having a tantrum all over the grid regarding this contest You all have to come to a conclusion this is NOT reality, just get over it.

BTW loosers spelled with one O , it should be losers lol. I think i know who u are bcause u always misspell loser. For all i know metaverse needs to learn more on about fashion, they are still learning the sl fashion if u ask me

Next topic please.. and honestly who cares why sessie got the votes she did or didnt get.. good god at least rant about something of interest other then a would be kiss-ass who goes on and on about how much she “lovessss” and “appreciates” oh wait did i forget “admiresss” those around her. Couldn’t you find someone who at least doesn’t use the same line of bullshit with everyone around her to speak about..

I couldn’t agree more. I think it’s so sad that people do anything and say anything to bring people down. For what? What do you gain by putting others down? It’s really sad. We could do so much more by all coming together and trying to make a difference.

Ashia Denimore isn’t even a good model. She lacks creativity and thinking outside of the box. All she does anyways is ask for help, dragging Black around for a style. It’s never going to change. I’d love to see a look she conjured up herself.

No kidding, the only reason she is friends with anyone in world is for her “fame”. Black was just a pawn, she doesn’t even like Black. Its a mutual manipulation… Black needs models for her advertising, and Ashia needs styling tips. (desperately)

You do realize that every one of them that are IN this Metaverse contest are all already deeply rooted in the modeling world correct? As long as you compliment the right people, you are a shoe in. I’d love to see a competition where people don’t already have a good/bad impression before you step up. Just saying🙂

you’re deluded if you think that. Sessie got the “popular” vote after the semi-final round when she didn’t make it on to the finals and was able to compete anyway. Every person in the finals was DEEPLY rooted in the modeling community. It was all a “who you know”

I’m not deluded, considering the vote card was PUBLIC and everyone could see who voted for who. Secondly, not all the judges are in the modeling industry either. so you do realize that obviously this didn’t have anything to do with a who you know situation right?

I wonder what makes these judges qualified to judge anyone in this contest?Have you ever seen the model responsible for this whole contest?After seeing him I wouldn’t hold the rest of the judges in to high regard.

How about you keep dreaming. The sad thing is most of the people posting here are very bitter for one reason or another, either they were shunned by the modeling world in Sl cause they kissed more ass then anyone else and didn’t get in still. So ANY competition that pops up in SL is under your ridicule regardless what it’s about, especially if a model enters it, and especially since you yourself probably entered and either didn’t make it past the selection process, got kicked, or you didn’t make it past the prelims. I’m not the one who’s dreaming. YOU are the one who’s dreaming. Why don’t you turn your negativity into something positive. If you don’t like what was done with the Metaverse Pageant, then start your own pageant.

First off this is NOT a modelling competition but an actual pageant like the ones you see irl. So there are categories that are not based on looks at all but based on YOU as a person and what you bring to the table. Second of all, this pageant hasn’t even started yet, and yet is being judged. For goodness sake! Wait for it to actually happen before throwing opinions around on something that has yet to even be produced in SL. Also it’s one thing to sit back and judge from the outside and a completely another to actually participate. So far in my experience as a contestant everyone has been more than helpful and kind. Another thing I am esp happy about is that the scores are ALWAYS going to be transparent. So I don’t get where this playing favorites thing is coming from. Sure we all have friends in the fields we work/play in, doesn’t mean that someone is always going to get ahead b/c of it. Yeah it happens but not always, and I don’t see it happening in the case here. As to someone having 3 alts in the pageant….all I can say is, it will be found out sooner than later, and honestly? I don’t see how any one person could do it. While this is the Emeritus pageant, there is still a lot that is asked of you in competition and as a contestant afterwards. I don’t see how one person would be able to do it all. *shrugs* But that’s just me, and again, IF someone is doing it, it will get found out.

My advice is to wait and see….. I think this pageant will take you by surprise.

In what RL pageant have you ever heard a statement like this: and I quote: ” We want each of you to know that this pageant is open to everyone. human, petite, lycan, vampire, and all other avatars. We are not exclusive we are inclusive.”

“Like” she said “like a real life pageant” which, of course, means that it has a variety of categories. I see this variety in real life pageants and considering that this pageant is in SL and you diss it by calling it “most unreal” is a shame. SL is not about just one race or one niche of one clone filled industry. You do the math – how many models are there in SL? Now how many players? Seems your model mentality that is full of prejudice by playing SL and yet demeaning others is nothing more than hypocrisy. I guess I should not use big words on someone with an obviously small mind so let me break it down for your ignorant ass. STFU because whether you like it or not that pageant will happen and new winds are blowing in SL. Time for a change and I applaud and welcome it. Most of you who are failing to slam this are probably part of the old SL regime and are shaking in your boots and the rest are probably people that did not make it into the pageant or were kicked out. Stop hatin’ it just makes it obvious how ignorant you are.

They hide here thinking we do not know who it is. blackliquid and sera ginger it is obvious who you are. I asked heth who he has had problems with and you are the only ones banned from competing. heth also told me that black wrote cilla and told cilla that she was going to post here on the agency report. so everyone knows who you are black. you are so pathetic black and everyone in sl who does not have their head up your ass hates you.

Why do you keep trying to pretend you are not Hethwen.Everyone knows the psycho replying is you Heth.Anyone that is sticking up for Heth really does not know him,her but you will.Heth, you will never be the next Frolic you are not a well respected model that everyone knows.and this contest is a ridiculous joke.So what Black Liquid is banned.She probably isn’t interested anyway.Actually no model on SL of any stature is involved in this contest.Just mediocre losers.

At least Voshie had the guts to give a name. Why wouldn’t you give your name? I bet you 50000L you wouldn’t have the guts. You speak up and admit to who you are and you will get this 50K, otherwise I am giving it to the pageant as a gift.

Media Core Loosers? God! If people be someone in SL they think they are someone? What is being SL celebrity? Wake-up darling this is a game. When you click on ‘x’ it finishes. People does all these things for fun, all the contests all the modeling all the blogs all the flickrs etc all for fun, not for being some-one. . So SL Top Models, SL Fashion Patrons, SL Agency owners etc etc… this is not a title that you can use in your real lives.
When a contest starts all the drama starts, ppl have fun and it finishes and what you do except of creating drama? What a pathetic life you have?
Everybody has pitty for your poor being darling…

One thing people seem to want to forget, there are all different kinds of people who play second life. This pageant isn’t set to represent one side of second life, the modeling side that everyone is so focused on. This pageant was created to represent ALL sides of second life, and all it’s players. Weather your a Gorean Kajira, a Furry, a Fairy, a Dragon, a SL Porn star, etc. The pageant is created to be a representation of everything that makes each and everyone of us in this game unique, and makes us continue to come back each day. This is not a exclusive club, and it never will be an exclusive club. Looks will be part of the judging more than likely, but will not weigh as heavily as much as the individuality of the contestants themselves.

Ridiculous? It might be a little more than that. You attempt to slam a pageant that has the backing of SL’s finest businesses, that has collected over 200,000 lindens and donated prizes that the finalists and winners will receive? From what I see they are marching strong and if you call raising awareness of things like MS, breast cancer, AIDS research, homelessness, and world hunger ridiculous then you must be a pretty miserable person. What is happening with this pageant is a gift to SL. No one has ever taken the initiative to do anything like this. Those of you who hide behind these statements and not give your names are pathetic. You make false statements about good things and good people and why? Oh, I know, because your pathetic cowards who only get off on trying to destroy good. Good always wins and this good is going to cover SL watch and see.

That chicken is worth 500K now. You sure seem bitter and jealous of a chicken.How did the chicken cross the road? She didn’t hide behind 50 alts or have a smart ass attitude that got her thrown out of the pageant. Everyone knows who you are and you are only entertaining yourself at this point. Sad little mixed up bish you wish you would have kept your mouth shut now but had to mouth off and get the boot lmfao

Oh for bloody gods sake.. if people aren’t here bitching about frolic now they are here whining about heth and the new pagent.. Seriously… and tomorrow it will be something else..
Hands everyone a soapbox some tissues and the latest issue of soap opera digest.

Of course, results are obvious from the begining, The owner of the contest is very close friend of some of models in the contest. I won’t give any name but you can simply check his account to see, obviously one of his friends will win the contest.
Beside this, people don’t like Frolic but Frolic was professional enough to keep same distance between all models.

Do you know Hethwen? He is one of the most respected models and business men in SL. What he is doing with this new pageant is a positive contribution to SL and I think more people will follow his lead this year. Unlike every other pageant in SL he is giving the winners and runners up very nice awards. He is also making sure that each representative that holds a national title works all year long to raise awareness on a variety of platforms that will benefit hundreds of thousands of people all over the world. Your smart ass comment about him being a few sandwiches short is so sad. It is people like you who make stabs at the people who actually get off their lazy asses in SL and do something to make a differnce. It shows you to not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

Everyone is talking about Hethwen and the Miss Metaverse Pageant. It is the best thing to happen in SL in years. I do hope Hethwen is made aware of the fact that he has 3 alts competing in his pageant and all are the same person. Taylor Wassep, YeriakTH Couturier, and Blackliquid Tokyoska are all the same person but I think everyone knows that already. Let’s just hope that Heth and the judges do not get the wool pulled over their eyes. I for one would love to see this pageant do well. I have kept up with it very closely and will compete in it at the end of this year if I find it is a solid pageant thatis run fairly. I like that Hethwen is trying to make a difference and level the playing field for everyone. There is so much bullshit in SL modeling and who is kissing who’s ass to get ahead. We all know this is true. I think what Hethwen is doing here is making sure this stops. I support this and hope everyone follows.

ROTFLMAO How can the results be obvious when there are no results yet? Spreading lies like this is never a healty thing to do. Heth is a very popular SL model and has won many pageants in SL. the one thing that no one can refute is that Heth is not one of the most honest and ethical men in SL. Anyone who says otherwise just does not know him. I modeled with him all of 2012 and in 2013 doing charity work with the Spirit of Canada and Models Giving Back. He is a manager at Chop Zuey Couture Jewelry for Belle who is also one of the most respected business owners in SL. So when you make false accusations like the contest going to one of his freinds as if it were predetermined. That is a lie. Will it go to one of his friends? Probably becuase he has so many friends. I would also suggest that you not make reference to Heth and Frolic in the same sentence. Heth is a far better than than Frolic will ever be.

That is lie. Heth good person. He does good for everyone. He help me many times when I ask others and no one to help me. When I enter Miss Mundo he judge.Heth write me say he help me and teach me more after. He taught me more than anyone else. Never accept pay. He no care if I model before. He take his time and speak to me translator. No one else. I almost lose my land Heth paid for me to keep and never ask for back. Heth good person why for you lie on him?

recently I have seen Miss Metaverse,
they have bunch of good models on the list. I have no idea about the contest. Probably another contest that people know the results from the beginning.
But funny thing is to check executive board. Who are they?? Does anyone know them? They will judge? do they know about modeling? What criteria they might have?
This is madness such initiatives..

lmfao first you are going to openly state that you have no idea about the contest and then accuse the contest of being rigged? Oh that’s cred worthy. I wasn’t sure who the executive board was so I went and asked for names. I do know everyone one the executive board and all are top models or trusted business owners in SecondLife. If you do not know any of them then you must live under a rock. I also asked who the judges were for the pageant and there are 12 judges from around the grid from every walk of life in SecondLife. If you think the judges need to know about modeling then you might have the wrong idea about this pageant. It seems that this pageant is a bit more sophisticated than a mere modeling contest. If you want to know about the criteria you can look on the website like I did and it explains everything in detail. http://www.metaversepageantry.com When I read you chldish statement above it led me to ask questions, questions that were all answered by seceral of SecondLifes most trustworthy members. I think it is disgusting how you try to trash an organization that wants to do good in SecondLife. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I don’t agree people should be forced to reveal their real life and I don’t understand how that would impact you buying their products. I tend to not use real money and try to earn Lindens to shop with so I don’t really correlate Rl money with Lindens. I quite like chop zuey who has some stunning pieces and I like fine smith who also has some stunning pieces i don’t see why it has to be one or the other, in my humble opinion they are two very different styles of jewellery designs and as someone who has tried and failed at making items I have much respect for those who do make Items, with any form of commerce there will be similarities between products but as I said before I have always thought of Chope Zuey and Finesmith to be two different types of designers so I doubt they are copying each other and also on the issue of knowing real world information on people it is something I would hate I just keep thinking of all the horror stories you hear of people being stalked virtually and otherwise and it makes perfect sense to keep your real life private. I also have to say the Belle is one of the most generous people I have come across on Second life she gives away so much free jewellery when she doesn’t have to and Finesmith also gives away free jewellery and have generous events like the hunt they have going on right now. It is funny to me that these are designers people are disparaging when they are two of the best quality jewellery designers in Second life. I have to say that I thought the point of Second life was to have a Second Life I really don’t see what your real life has to do with anything. Also this game is supposed to be fun I don’t remember seeing any rules that say you must buy from either designers.

Isoldel you have some valid points as well as some invalid points. By and large you are correct in that the avatar has a right to anonymity. That logic begins to change when the avatar is involved in business. Every linden in the game has a basis of real money. That linden entered the game because someone contributed real money at some point in its beginning. That brings real monetary laws into play with real consequences for fraud should someone have the means and desire to pursue justice. An LL employee once told me that if you decide to enter into business in SL then you must be prepared to reveal your true identity. The reason is that business people have entered I to a different category of avatars from others that are simply playing here.

If I discover a creator here and I read an interview about this person and they make certain claims about their real profession or educational background and based on that I decide to buy a product from them. But because of the way SL works, many products such as clothing and jewelry I don’t really get to see unless someone I know has it. Usually you only get to see a photo and that photo has been photoshopped in a big way. If I open the product and it’s a very poor quality then at the very least I have been lead astray by misrepresentation and fraud because that person claimed to be something they are not and their product reflected that. There are lawsuits all the time for that in RL.

People like Frolic, Gizza and Eshi are transparent in that. You know who they are. They don’t hide anything from a business perspective. They don’t make unsubstantiated claims about who they are. What you see in them and their businesses is what you get. Finesmith is just an avatar but Chop has a real identity and people seem to trust her more for that and, as a result, her sales are much higher.

For the protection of the consumer every business person in SL should be required to register their real information for all consumers to see. It would severely decrease the number of instances of fraud, copybotting and other illegal activities.

Nice points, but caveot emptor (let the buyer beware) applies when buying goods. If you buy something that has a rl value of maybe a few cents, in a virtual world, then you know what you are potentially letting yourself in for.
If you purchase something at face value on the strength of a picture then a designer could argue that you could have asked to see it before buying, so you knew the risk.
If the goods aren’t fit for purpose then you could reasonably ask for a refund, or failing a response go to LL.
As for fraud, unless you are paying for one thing and getting something else, or getting nothing then I am not sure it applies. Even copies aren’t fraud unless properly copyrighted, and that’s a risk all designers in SL face. Even if copyrighted then is it fraud or an infringement of copyright? In which case the injured party is the designer and she has remedy against the seller and also you, I think Even if its not a nice thing and distasteful unfortunately its not fraud.
I am not a lawyer.
The best way of measuring quality is how popular lines are. Also if you feel let down just vote with your purse and don’t shop at the place again.

I dont know whether i want to applaud Trinity for having the courage to state her opinion and back it up or applaud the fact that here is someone who doesnt hide behind anonymous names and use this as an excuse to trash others and their efforts. I don’t know and will not claim to say that one content creator is better then the other but when i look at Yula and Belle I stand in awe because i see two women who do create.. who do bring beauty to our world and manage to create things that I could not even begin to know how to do. I do have to agree that before you trash a product investigate it throughly.. what i hear when i read the above comments is alot of personal grievances. It makes me wonder more about the people writing then the content creators.

Want to know the differences between Finesmith and Chop Zuey?
Chop zuey has a real identity. She doesn’t hide, we all know who she is. Further, she may not make claims to be a real designer, but she owns the sacred right to be an avatar that makes jewelry!
Finesmith hides behind her avatar and has never backs any of her claims. All we ever see from her are contradicting stories that change every few months. The few designers / artists in SL who are, in actuality, real designer / artists do not hide their real identity and activities. Just think of Eshi Otawara or Alienbear Gupte. Unfortunately, the virtual products of Finesmith do not support what she claims to be in her real life, in fact, they make us to suspect the opposite: she is not a real designer. Of course, 99% of the people in SL aren’t who they claim to be, even so You have to take into account that a large number of her designs are actually the work of Blackliquid.

If you think that Finesmith doesn’t copy real jewelry from RL then I suggest you take a tour of Asos, Etsy, DeviantArt, or even Forever21 (which is real replicas of real products). These are her sources of “ideas”. In fact, the valentine heart she made for skip last year was a replica from DeviantArt right diwn to the style of the black chain. For heaven’s sake, she’s free to take inspiration from the ideas of others, but its it’s only common courtesy to give a nod towards the originator if you’re going to copy something down to the smallest detail. She needs to come off of that self proclaimed throne and be a little more modest and sincere. Honestly, I think Finesmith has a huge requirement for attention, which would not be able to receive without creating drama (Spliph, Syn are just examples of her dramatic dramas). Be vague about your life if you want but stop spreading such tall,and obviously false, tales. Of course, I will certainly apologize and change my impression if she had the ability to support her claims.

As a Former Model for Finesmith and a Current Model for Chop Zuey I have to say I am simply astounded by the comments here. First off Yula is a talented designer when she doesn’t copy. Second Belle NEVER copies. All her designs are original ideas and creations either worked with in collaboration from someone or from her own Highly creative and Inspiring imagination. The bright CAN be turned off on Belles jewels take a moment and have a read for instructions. or look at the menu. As for the quality of her jewels they are highly intricate detailed works of art. They glisten and gleam like real jewels should. Her prices OMG so NOT over priced. Take the time to think about how many tiny prims adjustments textures and how much time is involved in making just ONE piece of her jewelry. Not to mention if you are in her group or even not in her group there is a new beautiful gift placed out EVERY week. Not cheesy crap like alot of designers tend to put out but actual Quality jewels made with love and care. So many people spend so much time here bashing designers and agencys and they forget to take a moment to actually investigate the truth of what they are saying. Get over yourselves and grow up. Fashion is a Business and your not in it if you cant do real investigation!

Fashion has everything to do with Investigating. If you have no idea the quality of the designer you buy poor quality. If you have no idea the genre of the fashion you miss style. If you have no idea the quality of an Academy you attend a poor institution. What kind of fool thinks Fashion is not about investigating? Know your business! As for me getting somewhere. I happen to be extremely successful! What about you hiding behind anonymous?

If you never do any homework to legitimize your sources of information, then how will you ever know if it is the truth or false gossip? But then again, my next statement contradicts that when it oversteps the bounds of SL to RL.
Everyone on SL has the right to NOT expose their real life information. Just because someone else does, does not make them any more right to claims and accusations than others. It is their personal choice that should not be influenced by those who want to delve into their personal lies just to make a point. Speculate all you want but when the boundary between SL and RL is met, then you have to stop yourself in the investigative process for the sake of privacy to the individual. When you present pure facts in a accurate timeline, then you can build a case but other than that, when most accusations on SL are done by the word of peers through gossip, you have nothing to truly go by to make an accurate assumption. (Assumption also being the key word.)

finesmith-chopzuey war is full on and i see belle using her agents to slander finesmith. but i know one thing. belle exaggerates her sale numbers. she not selling any more than finesmith. we investigated & tracked belle using her alts to buy most of cz fashion limited item to create artificial demand. cz items always display sold out very fast when finesmith just show 10 items sold. thats coz yula does not buy her own items to create demand. some of us got suspicious and tracked belle’s alts buying her own jewellery in huge numbers. Belle not really selling for half off. she creates demand at fashion limited buying her own products and sells the same item in her store for full price.

Yula is honest. yula sold lot more than belle at FFL 2013. belle hardly made 5-6 sales on her riverrock jewellery. why riverrock did not sell like fashion limited item? belle’s alt couldnt buy at ffl coz money was not going back to her. yula sold so many at FFL and raised much more money than belle. yula is a real jewellery designer and will always be. she does not use cheap tactics to put down another brand. cz agents and models must stop spreading lies. now we all know cz is not more popular than finesmith and never will be.
belle bragged selling two diamond dresses for 250k but frolic already found buyer even before the dress was made.*not real sale* everything to fool buyers and create artificial demand.
riverrock jewellery sale we all saw at ffl is real cz sale. finesmith kicked cz’s ass big time.

Belle disgusts me. The “Riverrock” jewelry was just horrid and her prices are so inflated I”d rather spend my money elsewhere. So what if she gives out “free” stuff? Its all shit anyway. 2008s “swirling texture” gems are sooo out!

What is your qualification to judge designers? Did you study jewelry design yourself? We buy jewels that look good to us. Yula was left high and dry? Are models expected to spend their time in sl waiting for one designer and not look for other opportunities? The argument is laughable.

Chop Zuey copies many rl designers and she is good at making replicas. However I haven’t seen Finesmith making replicas. Chop zuey jewels are no mod with full bright on and I am getting tired of those cheesy animated floating gems. Finesmith jewels have no cheesy animations and I can turn the annoying full bright off. Yes, I agree Finesmith is better than Chop Zuey but IMO both brands are overpriced and over hyped. I am done with both.

Hello dear models, I am attending an event for Valentines Day and I was shopping for accessories to complete my outfit. I ended up buying a set from Chop Zuey called Stolen Kisses for 1099 Lindens. What a waste of money. I just discovered via the treasure hunt a similar pair by Finesmith called Heartfelt and at the nominal price of 30 Lindens. Maybe Chop Zuey should rename the set to “Stolen Ideas”. It’s nearly the same as the Finesmith version except that hers is better made and costs much less!

I agree Chop Zuey is very overpriced especially for what it is non mod and full bright is usually left on you can’t turn it off and look like a flashlight,but Finesmith is better made ? and shes never copies anyone’s ideas !!!!!!! are you sure your not drunk too ?Finesmith is the most over hyped garbage out there.It should all be cheap or free.

And for the record Ramonzita, extortion is a federal crime when committed interstate which includes using the internet.

According to Wikipedia:
“… extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by mail or in using any instrument of interstate commerce. Extortion requires that the individual sent the message willingly and knowingly as elements of the crime. The message only has to be sent.”

It’s only a matter of time before someone in the law enforcement area will make YOU their number one priority.

And i’m sure Kamilia katana has nothing to do with this.Kamilia does not scam or grief groups people or stores.. She has been in SL since 2005 its a normal friendly woman i love her!.. She has been friendly to me.

Lies lies lies.. You are lying avenger .. Who cares about it i believe Kamilia katana she can even proof it..why don’t people stop harassing Kamilia katana .. is this a trick or something ? Avenger who are you anyway? Ramonzita by yourself.. The fashion world became one big mess because of people like you avenger.. Stop making people black if you don”t know them.. You are just jealous that you don’t have any contacts with the owners of thebodyco.. you fool

Please ban Kamilia Katana from everywhere possible.
We do not know whether she’s an alt of Ramonzita or someone else but she’s just as much a scammer.
She has contacted several major designers claiming she’s from Armidi, and from TheBodyCo (she even created a facke BodyCo FB page https://www.facebook.com/thebody.co.16), offers them a cooperation but all she is is a scam. She will say she creates mesh for you, then asks for a down payment and vanishes into thin air. She has been faking pretending store managers from Armidi and Glam Affair since 2010!! Why won’t LL put an end to this?

We have been going through some tough stuff with SL criminal situations that have been going on.

Some of the names that were mentioned here already as part of this criminal group are Dona Zuzu and Pelu Venom.

Dona Zuzu informed that her store was “robbed”. If possible, Dona Zuzu, would you show us here where are your items for sale illegaly? We have the url link to marketplace where Ramonzita sells HIS stolen shapes, last time I checked they were for sale for L800.

Dona Zuzu, if your items were “stolen”, can you show us the url if they are being sold illegaly? Or is just you and your team trying to pull a wool over everybody’s eyes? We all know who you are by now, so, it’s just a matter of time.

yup she is. And Vanessa Knoller. And a group of friends that have come across a way to criminally intent against legal creators in SL. This all has been going on for years, this isn’t new. It has taken years for third party viewers users to realize that SL source code is actually open source. After some years of technically understanding this, with SL development viewers, it was just a matter of time til dishonest people had access to the basic codes of SL. The only thing thing that LL can do to avoid illegal activities inworld is to block all access from third party viewers. And that’s pretty much it. Firestorm teams however are trustable and they work very hard. All it takes it to LL to block all access inworld through third party viewers, but they won’t do it. At this point, it’s too late.

I don’t know why I ever bother to read those ridiculous editorials of Frolic. Every time I think he can’t do any worse he always manages to reach a new low. His repeated displays of ignorance never seem to amaze me. Perhaps that is why I continue to read, the result of a morbid curiosity.

Today I had to read his comments a dozen times to be sure of what he was actually saying and I was utterly repulsed. 10 years ago my sister had a son born with Down Syndrome. My nephew is the amazing child you will ever meet. My sister and her husband are leaders of a an organization to help parents of Down Syndrome children in their city. To think the way you spoke of them as parents being punished!!! The idea is the most absurd and insulting thing I have ever read, born of the ignorance of someone who has never even had a child. Given my sisters situation I have met many, many, many, many parents with Down Syndrome children and not one of them EVER thought they were punished or cursed of god for their situation. The most anyone of them ever expressed was concern that they be a good parent. That your friend seems to express this sadness is proof that you associate with your own kind and they are unfit to be parents of any child, let alone a Down Syndrome child. Feeling concern for the wellbeing of the child is far different then feeling sadness or self-pity that your child isn’t “normal” as you phrased it.

Your ass always manages to talk more than your mouth. Maybe you should stick to the things you know best, drugs and alcohol. Better yet, just shut your mouth and stop trying to impress people with an intellect you don’t have.

Ramonzita Resident is on her way to destroy the bodyco because they never payed her the 200K she wanted
The fabelous store who became famous of their beatiful hair from Armidi. One of the biggest fashion store in SL is under attack by Ramonzita Resident and her alts . She is giving all the bodyco skins and makeup’s out for free as a store gift.
Is this the end of thebodyco or are they strong enough?. The owners ( angels) are upset and trying to stop her.
What will they do they could pay the 200K . Coming soon a interview with one of the owners

And not only the bodyco is under attack. DURAN the hairstore is copybotted to .

more then 40 avatars did report the Ramonzita account but with no succes.

Please let us informed if this group of SL criminals – as we all know by now it’s a bunch of kids – attack, for example, ItGirls skin store. I want to know if they do that. Probably later, I’ll explain why I ask.

Frolic Mills its time for you to leave.
Its getting boring to hear always anything from Frolic..
We know that you have RL problems with drugs and alcohol
Maybe you have some good contact by yourself with this Ramonzita. I mean you are talking about her everyday… Do you pay her or does she/he pay you? FROLIC before everybody is throwing you out should i give you one last TIP.. Fire yourself

Today, Frolic Mills reached a new high in idiocy, when he argued “What is LL doing about this? Absolutely nothing! They are actually very busy making kindergarten apps for iPad.” Of course, Frolic, LL has finally realized that Second Life is a losing endeavor of obsolete software that is polluted by seriously deranged people of which you are the supreme representative. Do you even realize how low a human being you are? You need to close your expensive sim out of fear of Ramonzita or lakers, who could very well be the result of the imagination of Frolic, that would do anything to draw attention to himself. For years you claimed to be a great economist graduated from the University of Michigan. Any economist in his right mind, and perhaps even a simple baker who knows how to do business, would say that Second Life is now at fruits end and there is nothing left to invest in it. When a little radio breaks do you repair it or buy a new one? LL has chosen to invest in something new, because the cost of making SL compatible with what the market (i.e. smartphones and tablets) costs far too much. SL has been designed to perform only on mid to high end computers and not on the current medium of choice, tablets and smartphones. Most people are not attached to a computer all day like a ball of lard such as you. Normal people move, travel and communicate on the go. LL did the right thing, taking advantage of SL revenues until it is no longer profitable for them, and then investing everything in the real market. Look around you. SL is a ghost of its former self. LL not will continue to invest in a niche for repressed and exalted fanatics who waste time listening to a fat 50 year old drug dealing loser called Frolic Mills. Congratulations LL, for once, you have done something right.

Hi there would you mind stating which blog platform you’re working with? I’m planning to start my own blog in the near future but I’m having a tough time choosing between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal. The reason I ask is because your layout seems different then most blogs and I’m looking for something completely unique.
P.S Apologies for being off-topic but I had to ask!

WARN all MODELS.> DON”T enter this boring ” inhouse MVW academy contest”… they are only the av modified, manipulated by frolic mills’ school..

the fact is the contestant this year are all FROM their group. IT is not qualify to named as MISS VIRTUAL WORLD>
it is only cna named as ” inhouse MODEL contest’ of MVW.. it si NOT qualify to represent SL models.

they only pick their freinds and insider!!! BOYCOTT MVW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Betty Draesia
-(((1.21.2012 Graduation at Miss Virtual World Academy)))<– school run by frolic mills
-Best of second life BOSL magazine Blogger

2.Ekaterina Tolczyner
((***Miss Virtual World Academy Graduate))<– school run by frolic mills

Brittainy Collins and DebbieDoo Tigerfish should hook up! They’re like the Bobbsey Twins!!! Both of them post too much, act sanctimonious, annoy the crap out of nearly everyone and cannot resist getting the last word. Ironic isn’t it?

truly sorry if you feel that way, and if thats how I come across its not intended
I just get annoyed when really nice people like Meimei get nasties coming their way, when they wouldnt hurt a soul.She started in CWS and moved on and has done amazingly well, even if we arent friends, she is one of the best models in SL. I dont claim to be anywhere near her standard, as she has turned SL modeling into art..good for her and people like her

Not sure about Nickle but still stand by what I have always said

If you dont like someone ignore or mute them, and not come here attacking people unless they have posted here themselves or are a SIM owner, in which case thats what this site is about.

Dont care what you post about me, I dont know you and have no desire to know you. At teh same time you dont know me, and the pleasure that gives me is wonderful

and before you whine on and on..its SL its a game..Its fun and modeling is barbies for grown ups….As for Divas pfffft..as for you Spineless one relax, look in the mirror…and after you had a little scream go SL and pretend you are young and beautiful and not old fat and bald just like your mommy..omg laughing so much now

I’m sure Ashia is a great model, she did great at the Sydney Fashion Week. It’s just a bit of a coincidence that the past couple of relationships that Blackliquid has had resulted in both of her partners applying and joining the ranks of those in MVW and Mister VW. I just hope that whatever Ashia wears or does is from her own styling and ideas and not Blackliquid’s.

Well, why not? you all can hire and pay Blackliquid to be your stylist if you can afford her. I mean for all you know models ask help with their friends or even hire a stylist to have a total makeover so why can’t Ashia use resources she have available in front of her. Nothing wrong with that

B is one of the best and most successful stylist on SL and people pay her to help them with their styling and makeovers. I can vouch for that. So no its not a coincidence that B has made some people on SL successful because she is one of the best mentors and her hard work shows proof!

IT gotta be joke… NO JOKE>. she is the close friend of BL. and the insider of the judges.. it will be amazed if she is not picked by all her connections.. THis is not a game of ” true beauty” if is only about ” how close your relationship with the Judge and owner of MVW” … if you see other contestant like ” S 6 ” or ” B” or ” NR” .. u will understand what i mean.. their av is not even qualified to be ” pretty” and they only have strong connections with the judges like working in BOSL magazine or be a long paid alot tutorials fees to MVW.

if you review their look and AV. NONE of them is really ” amazed” and good looking..Frankly .. i think the Game is deteriating.. no more fun now.

The contestant are more ” real beauty and special ” look like last year.. with the av named ” faL” or ” Ru” or ” Ca” at least they are really specal look av and GOOD looking…

IT IS NOT ABOUT FIERCE OR NOT>> IT IS ABOUT picking the BEAUTIFUL AV>. in a Beauty contest, it is not just a model contest.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so . you prepare to ripped off by paying MVW academy if you want to go live audition.

Ok, I normally don’t respond to this crap, but whoever you are that named Meimei Shiu as a “bitch” is a total crazy idiot loser!!!! I have known her for over a year and she is the most loving and helpful girl in SL modeling!!! She doesn’t get wrapped up in all your stupid petty drama. She has a creative flair, a keen eye for fashion and has most certainly paid her dues!!!! She worked hard and never stepped over anyone to get where she is today!!!! This is total garbage and pure jealousy. Utterly disgusting. Whoever you are, you’re a sick creep. It’s this shallow nonsense that drove me away from SL modeling. You’re not worthy enough to shine Meimei’s shoes, none the less speak her name!!! Shame on you!

Another baseless comment that you could only do it here hiding behind an Anonymous name. You obviously don’t know Meimei when you wrote that. Meimei is a simple person that just likes to enjoy her pastime in SL being a model and enjoying her time with friends. I don’t know who you are but I know Meimei well enough to say she is a very kind, helpful and genuine person, so that makes you THE scammer, or let me guess! You kept the #1 spot for yourself! Go do something meaningful like water the plants or recycle some plastic instead of wasting time hurting someone here.

Maybe its just me but I thought this site was about agencies, warts and all, so people could be informed, and it allows those who agree or disagree to comments to answer.
SL is also a game, and fashion in SL for me is art and Barbies for grown ups
So why are you listing individuals and having your nasty digs at them?
To call people scammers or dirty players just because you dont like them it isnt what this site is about
Sure if they come and type here, then you can have you digs, thats one of the things you accept when you post here.
Also have digs at SIM owners they make income and will expect it, even if what is said about them isnt true.
If you dont like someone, then you can mute them or just ignore them. Its SL you need to remember that. I can assure you that most models in SL arent models in RL and most probably dont have the latest and most expensive fashions. So they come to SL and live their dream. So what if they act like diva, so what if they win things, its just a Role Play really, and a fun one at that. Also so what if they arent good and so what if they think spending 5000 lindens on an outfit is spending big, especially as its not real, and irl 5000 lindens would get them something nice at Walmart…its their dream so dont ruin it for then
I also know Meimei from ages ago, and she is a realy fun person, who happens to love SL fashion, and never had a nasty word about anyone. So next time you type nasty have a think about what you are doing, and maybe if you are brave enough type your Inworld name,

Meimei Shiu scammer and dirty player? Which planet have you been living on? She has been drama free her entire time in SL, working hard and spending time with only her friends and staying away from trouble. Everyone around her likes her, even me, my little interactions with her, she is sincere, humble and fun loving. You disgust me utterly, hiding behind an anonymous name, attacking people you do not know. Shame on you.

mmm… are you all aware that rl women play sl in male avatars and the other way around right? this is how the game can be played. Takeshi Kiama is another example. it’s a woman playing with a male avatar. it’s a game!

honestly who cares who is a woman or who is a man.. its their sl let them be… oh by the way just so you all know I am really a repressed gnome hiding out from the inherent system of supreme executive power by pretending that really i am a Super model with super styling powers in order to build a collective of Super Models to free the other Repressed gnomes.. “MORE POWER TO THE GNOMES!”

Everyone here is well aware that crazy brittainy aka CB is a couple of cans short of a six pack, so don’t even bother with pointing the obvious out to her. Oh, and she probably the only one who subscribes to the posts so expect her crazy head to pop up after this.

no i am not crazy… just honestly tired of the crap that gets posted here… its stupid and mean… its cyber bullying and ridiculous… so why not post something that is just utter nonsense to counter the utter stupidity and drival that pours forth from the fingertips of those who have little better to do then to cast stones and hurt those around them with name calling and insults.

By the way.. say what you wish about I honestly don’t care what your opinion is of me. I never have and honestly never will.. So insult me tear me down or do your worst and guess what… you still will not cause me to do anything but sit here and laugh at you….

Enjoy your day do try to look on the bright side of things… I know I do…

That just came out of the blue from no where and personally who f’ing cares. Obviously, you are a person that has nothing else to do but to bash people over the web or just a jaded person who obviously have some issues. Personally,I do not care if you are an alien behind an avatar as long as they treat you as you want to be treated, with respect. Throwing these allegations and bashing people names on this site shows you how ignorant you are.

For one, I went to Sydney Harbor and the IMA show yesterday and was impressed with all the detail and dedication that was put not only into the set but from the models as well. It was a real pleasure to attend.

And you know what, hats off to IMA for doing a bang up job, CHAM was an amazing hostess, and the models were absolutely beautiful. It takes a special Agency to be dormant for as long as they have and still put on a great show….great job.

And a special shout out to all the models from iC in the show you make me proud everyday….

I was under the impression the show was a fashion show.Not one person has mentioned how the designers where portrayed and the designs brought to the stage.Yet I see people commenting about how nice the photos of Australia where.Very disappointing on a designers point of view.

It was a Fashion Week. Several designers showcased along the week. People may comment on the opening ceremony. Just like any RL fashion week, several designers were showcased. Your disappoitment may come from ignorance of how fashion weeks work.

Laughable, my ignorance?If you only knew!I am sorry miss stay at home mom stuffing her face with chocolate pretending to be a fashion model in secondlife but most likely who’s all fashion sense comes from Walmart.If only you knew how a fashion week works in real life, you would be disappointed to.I suggest before making such an ignorant reply. Get out of your local target and research before you open your mouth about something in which you clearly know nothing about.

This is the first thing they have done in over a year.IMA is not new ,they just never do any shows.It was nice, but interesting?It wasn’t anything new or innovative.There is a fashion week lately every other week.The only one anyone cares about is Modavia’s

I heard rumors that Frolic or Juan or whatever he’s calling himself these days, is a bit bored today with few people in SL and no drama brewing.

Maybe we can start a fundraiser to get you some true psychotherapy help from professionals because a person that joins SL, with a Scientology background of 16 years, and the motive to imitate L. Ron Hubbard is just pathetic.

You pattern your model courses after him, you even dress like him for crying out loud. It’s just creepy.

The money people give you to cover their training is just an imitation of the training you received and paid your money for. Want to sell us your version of the E-meter too?

Not everyone will realize they are involuntary victims of your wannabe cult but I see more and more people drawing the parallels, they just don’t know where your ideas originated.

Didn’t they always say that anyone not of them is fair game to be used?

Nice to know that I can go away from AR for a month or more, come back, and it’s like watching Days of Our Lives. The drama just continues, and it’s still the same old characters going on and on about the same old things. Truly, isn’t there something better to talk about? Hasn’t the MVW/blackliquid/finesmith/addyourlatestnemesishere dead horse been beaten enough?

SL is what it is. Who cares if that male model over there is female in RL? Lord knows there are enough “women” in SL who are really men in RL, so what’s the big deal? If the avi is male, the model is male, in my opinion. We can’t help it that RL women create the best looking male avis. *grins*

At any rate, it’s at least some comfort to know that some things never do change.

No shortage of CWS whiners on here. I didn’t poke fun at a noob, I ridiculed CWS for it’s SOP with their so called, “fashion shows.” Oh so, you’re stating these “fashion shows” require one practice a day? Hmm, that’s not what their calendar says. It’s not listed as “weekly fashion show training.” They have something called, “free model training” or whatever they call it. That in itself is funny, practically nothing at CWS is “free.” Look, its neither here nor there, because the trainers at CWS are a huge joke there too. Btw, I use 98% for a reason dumb dumb, just in case that one moron comes forward to be the voice of dissension. Oh wait, that’s you LOL! You’re right it’s a game, however the whole point, which you missed completely (not surprising) was, the blog Nave Fall wrote, in which he highlighted several “claims” made by CWS, while advertising services they really either cannot provide or are erroneous. Simple enough for you? There’s no anger or hostility towards you. You’re a CWS Kool-Aid drinker and I am not. Thank God. Tell you what big mouth, reveal your in world identity and then I will. Put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is. A lot of good people had discovered they had been tricked, deceived, that pageants were rigged, the scores were tampered with by Anrol, and she and whomever are trolling their own sim during pageants to mess with the contestants walks and poses. Believe me it wasn’t just that they gently decided to move on. Gimmie a break! Wake up!!!!

Ok, so here’s the 411 on the “fashion shows” over at CWS. Let’s start from the beginning. Anrol Anthony (fraudster extraordinaire) owns a large sim (no guess work involved here how she pays for said sim). She has created a very large shopping mall there and many designer vendors have space there. This helps both designer and Anrol. That said, Anrol is OF COURSE the larger beneficiary. This mall is where Anrol gets the bulk of her members (I refuse to call them models). Anrol/Steve (whatever) and her/their various avis, patrol the mall area and then send “invites” to the shoppers to join CWS. A few are miraculously offered scholarships to the CWS “university” (oh lucky them). The majority of the members there were recruited this way, they did NOT independently seek out CWS. Remember, EVERYTHING over there mainly benefits Anrol and her financial bottom line. Via said mall on her sim, as mentioned the various designers do benefit. They have signed “agreements” with Anrol for x-amount of time. Here’s where it gets a little fuzzy…it’s not clear by their own choice or these signed agreements, but every week a designer’s clothing is “modeled” at CWS. It’s 98% internal.

So, at the beginning of each week, Anrol makes up her list of participants. Here’s how that works. The members spending the most and buying pageant slots, get the best outfits and more to “model.” The newbies get the scraps and the ones who spend nothing or very little, get just that….not much to NOTHING. It’s neither here nor there, because the only ones in attendance are the CWS members, their friends and an occasional straggler who happened upon the event while shopping. So, members get these outfits and have to style them anyway they want. They do one practice where Anrol confuses the hell out of everyone, acts nasty and it’s been often questioned whether she’s sober or on medication. Then the big event (LMAO), this is where the members walk down Anrol’s cheesy Trump-esque and gaudi runway. The completely hilarious part is, EVERYONE does the SAME model poses from a set Anrol decided was professional (ROFL). The poor designer sits in the front row, flanked by Anrol and Steve, while substandard avatars, calling themselves model, walk around with their clothing on. And, yes on rare occasions there have been some bigger designer names to be roped into these shenanigans.

The purpose you might ask? Well, it’s not super complicated, it’s one big “love fest.” It’s a mental trick of sorts. It’s another device Anrol uses to deceive the members who are shelling out thousands upon thousands of dollars into Anrol’s bank account every month. They are tricked into thinking they’re actually a “somebody” in SL modeling. I mean wouldn’t you think so too if you’re wearing a PurpleMoon or Bliss gown and the designer/owner is in the front row? I mean come on, Anrol and CWS must be legit right? Not even close, but several dozen buy into it all and keep sending the money to you know who.

So yes, something that very loosely resembles something of a “fashion show” goes down every week. The kicker is the end….Anrol selects a handful of starstruck newbies from the audience and quickly sends them one of the designer’s outfits to expeditiously put on (little-no styling required). This is where you will absolutely fall off your chair in laughter, these poor souls are maybe a week old and recruited off the mall floor. They are still relatively clueless and often try to change right there in the auditorium. We all can attest to lag issues, so you can imagine there sits the designer (no doubt biting their bottom lip) as these noobs are walking around half naked/half in their design. At any rate, these hot messes get to appear next to the members in the cheese to end all cheese, Steve’s rockin’ dance number, which is then compiled into the end of his monthly video magazine. So that’s what you’re seeing at the end of his videos under the tagline, “designers.” The compilation of a months worth of garbage.

If you go here to their site, then page down a little, you’ll see the video for the August magazine. Don’t torture yourself and watch the whole thing unless you’re looking for loads of giggles. Near the end, Steve has it titled, “Fashion Designers.” It must have been a slow month because there are only 3 (LOL). Watch the one for JayGee? Anyway, look closely at the four participants. It’s easy to spot the noobs pulled from obscurity. The poor girl in red….OMG couldn’t find shoes. Also, in reviewing past videos I have noticed a marked decline in not only the number of designers, but the big names aren’t there much anymore. This is a GOOD thing. Seems the word is out FINALLY!

and here is another funny thing
Who cares what you think
Its SL its fun.
Nobody in any agency or whatever you want to call them is a real model.
Most just do it for fun, some are good at styling others are a real mess.
Some call themselves famous SL super models and lots of gay ones hang around Frolic Trump looking for some bum action.
It doesnt really matter, nobody is going to die, its just fun.
As for people making money, well good luck to them
As for people who spend silly sums of money on pageants well thats their business
Just like its mad to think spending 5000 Lindens on some up market gown is really a big spended. You can get things in walmart for cheaper, and at least you can wear the things!
So please get things straight in your head. SL is a game. Modeling is Barbies for grown ups. SL fashion is not real fashion, but it is art, and you really do need to ask yourself a little question. Sure ridicule owners, they probably dont really care what you say. However to insult people who do see themselves as models, even if not as great as you thing you are is a little off.
I am sure you questioned why CWS doesnt do weekly castings in an indirect way. Well a direct answer is simple..cos they dont, and its 100% not 98% who are internal. Not sure where 98% came from..98% of what…if you have 10 models thats 0.2 from the outside.
As for 1 practice per week, actually its 1 a day, but hey dont let facts get in your way.

All that said, for the models involved it is fun. Lots have left, but thats true of anything in SL. People get bored, fall out with each other, move on because they prefer something else, or decide they can run their own business in a different way, and good luck to them. However its still just a game, nobody owes anyone an explanation they can do as they wish. I would challenge you to come to CWS and face to face with CWS models tell them what you think of them. You are very brave typing here and being insulting, I wonder if you are as gutless inworld.

Watch the one for JayGee? Anyway, look closely at the four participants. It’s easy to spot the noobs pulled from obscurity. The poor girl in red….OMG ..

I think thats particulary nasty,
a noob?..so what if she is
Her shoe was missing?..so what
Did she get on youtube and maybe smile ?..probably yes

Criticise Anrol sure, be critical of the way things are done, give examples and real ones please of why the school is a joke,,,,thats what this place is for

I didnt think though it was a place to laugh at people who have done you no harm, said nothing bad, but you find it easy to laugh at.
Sure you will come back with 1000 lines of nonesense, and get all angry, but nothing takes away your nasty little digs at people who you have never met, which is for them a major major relief I would suggest

OMG you tried sooo hard to be PC and champion the SL noobs, but then go and use the term, “retard” in your name. So CLASSY or should I say Classic with NO style!!!! Thanks for further proving every CWS hater’s point on here. We love when you creeps come on here. You ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make huge fools of yourselves and CWS!!! Keep up the good work.

Good glad you dont like it, nobody forces you to go.
The same is true of anywhere in SL
You are entitled to your view and anyone can go to these fashion shows.
No invite is required and they are usually held at 3pm slt every Saturday night.
Are they the best fashion shows you will ever see?..well that is for you to decide.

The point of a fashion show though is to sell desgners outfits. In RL you will notice models generally dont wear tons of jewlery, and usually dont overdo makeup or hair. SL is totally different as many shows you will have models camping it up and people in the audience clapping cheering and making all sorts of wierd gestures. Thats fine it is SL after all and fun.

As for pay to enter competitions anywhere in SL, thats for individuals to decide. I dont enter and never will, and thats my choice, for the same reason I dont rent land or property, I prefer to spend my rl money on stuff I can touch and feel. However how other people spend their money it their business.

I am sure Nave Fall is an expert on RL fashion..cough…and brings his vast talents to SL. I thought he was a balding teacher real life in midwest USA, and who cares!

Wether its CWS or MVW, Maniera or Avenue or anywhere really, the people who choose to go to their schools pay what is actually a relatively small amount of RL money, but at the same time maybe have a dream come true that they will never have RL. That is the whole point, its fun, and sure some people do make money from this, and so what, infact thankyou them and good luck. I had great fun at CWS and Maniera, they were completely different in many aspects, but the one thing they had in common was they were fun. I never felt that paying my 7000 or so Lindens that I was getting scammed or ripped off. Classes were always on time, each class had structure and good notes were handed out prior to class. Teachers never copied or pasted from the notes and the atmosphere was always relaxed. the curriculum in both was adhered to, and I was never made to feel silly, even if at times I was clueless. I am sure this is true elsewhere too. Do you get to pass automatically at the end?..absolutely not, but thats the fun of it. You pay and then suddenly find you have to study and work..like huh in SL..wow most of us are in our 40’s, but that was the fantastic thing about it.

If the schools are shambolic then people tend to vote with their feet early days, and such places dont stay open long. Models also have a habit of bouncing from school to school to learn as much as they can. They can see the bad places and can leave anytime they want. At CWS and Maniera 80% or so of those of us who started, finished.

As for promises of being the best in SL or famous, well I have seen a few so called famous SL models, and unless I was mistaken they lagged like everyone else, in some cases looked so wierd it was embarrassing, and in lots of other cases were no different from anyone else paying their $20 monthly membership fee to SL.

Modeling to me will always be Barbies for grown ups, and for others it will be a role play of them being famous stars of the catwalks, and good luck to them both. SL modeling is meant to be fun, just like SL anything else.

“You are entitled to your view and anyone can go to these fashion shows. No invite is required and they are usually held at 3pm slt every Saturday night. Are they the best fashion shows you will ever see?..well that is for you to decide.”

ok, LM please? or how can we be informed , which group shall we join? i’m really interested in watching one of CWS fashion shows, or all of them, every saturday. Just give us the LM, please. Thank you.

Sure look in their blog….
This site isnt for advertising shows for any agency so please just look up blog in Google and I believe info is there at the bottom
I am sure you will go with an open mind, and I hope you enjoy.

Well said, “Anonymous.” I do think the addiction effect you refer to, differs slightly with an online world as expansive as Second Life. I think people don’t even realize it’s happening to them and before they know it, the lines between pretend and reality have blurred so much, they lose touch with reality. Regardless of anyone’s belief, Second Life IS NOT reality. It does become dangerous, because of the emotional dependency and sense of power people begin to experience. It masks the deficiencies in real life and provides a false and pseudo sense of importance. Reading though 98% of these comments and posts, one is left wondering, “where’s the fun?” There is tremendous hostility, anger and pure hatred expressed. A key component that I believes fuels such intense negativity is the subconscious fear and guilt over the money being spent. This site is devoted to only one aspect of Second Life. The so called, virtual modeling industry. It IS an industry and large amounts of money are being exchanged. The mind-eff happens when you see a product or service in lindens, converted into actual money denominations, appears manageable. For instance a virtual dog may cost $3000 lindens and equal $12.50. On the surface it’s not a lot. After a few days, it adds up and at the end of the month many participants are broke. Of course it’s similar to any other addiction. People have mentally checked out of reality. The “bigger” your virtual persona is, the more lost in real life these people seem to be. i.e, Frolic Mills, etc…. Also, they can hide and that power of anonymity allows people to behave in a manner they would NEVER dare to exhibit in real life.

There have been several essays written in Psychology, regarding the effects of the web on people. There’s nothing wrong with being connected to any chat room or join 3D web platforms like SL. From the start, SL has never been consensual for everybody: I’ve read articles about people who blame SL for their spouses cheating, others about SL being all about cyber sex, the list goes on.

SL is merely a tool as is the web. We can do with it what we want. If, for some reason, there is betrayal in a marriage, to be honest, how can SL be to blame? People are behind the keyboards. It’s like the knife that sits on our kitchen counter. We use it to chop vegetables or it can be a weapon, if we decide the stab someone with it. If we stab someone with it, is the knife to blame? Or the hand that used it?

Same thing with SL and any web platform that allows people to connect. Immature people like to blame it on SL, whatever happens, SL is to blame.

However, and this is important, there is already as you all know, a proven addiction to online games. Are the games to blame? People who are addicted to gaming. Are casinos to blame? I mean we can’t blame it on SL for people’s attitudes. There is the anonymous factor that allow people to play “without a face”, not only SL, but several online games.

What I really think everybody should be careful about is that addiction effect. If we spend too many hours playing SL, we may lose the sense of reality.

There are many people that play SL, buy land and all of a sudden truly believe they are powerful. Not only Frolic Mills. I’ve been in contact with many people that actually feel empowered by “owning” something in SL; and this is where we all can see who that person is. Having this sense of empowerment brings the best and the worst of people, depending on their personal and ethic beliefs. It’s actually very easy to observe and see what people do in SL with what they think they have “power”.

If we are – in RL – mature and confident people, these “power games” don’t affect us at all. SL land owners have no power over us. There is no reason why people should bow to another SL resident, unless we really feel that person is worth of our trust, friendship, and care.

This translates into RL in the way we relate to money. Again, money is the tool. It can be put to a good use or not. The ultimate character test is to give somebody a fortune. Then observe how they behave. Money (meaning power) will enhance the best of them or the worst.

In so many ways, SL really mimics RL. This is one of them. It’s natural that we feel all kinds of emotions when we play SL. We’re just human and sometimes we forget to keep both feet grounded in our RL and just have fun in SL.

Why do we even care about other people’s attitude?. We just watch, learn and – I confess – sometimes laugh a lot. Because to even consider paying attention to all kinds of power games in the game itself is actually very ridiculous and we can just have fun by watching how some people behave like superstars in SL.

This says a lot about the superstar effect in a virtual world, as well. As we all know, a RL superstar doesn’t “live” in SL. But we have to remember that those of us who are SL residents, we are the ones that create superstars, by giving them the attention they don’t simply deserve.

And yet.. you keep showing your intelligence and your wit by the fact that you keep coming back to the very site you spout against. You continue to be the one to insult and trash those around you.. So how is what you are doing any different then the ones you are spouting on your soap box about.. your behavior is reflective of the fact that you are an unhappy person who is seeking to make those around you unhappy.. and for what purpose.. to make yourself feel more gratified by the fact that you can insult those around you? Well then congratulations you are in fact a bully and have reached your goal.

Maybe the question you should ask, is why do people come to SL?
Its is probably not difficult to answer, I come here because I enjoy it
In SL I dont recall ever having an argument with anyone, but have made some amazing friends.
As for RL yep its around all of us, even you! I wouldnt presume to call you out on your RL as I dont know you, so please dont make assumptions about people who you dont know

The personal stuff you spout out, means that its very difficult to understand what your point is, I sure as hell dont know. All I know is that I sure as hell hope I dont know you in RL or SL…I will choose to cling onto the fact that I dont know you, and that alone brings me much joy and happiness

Take care and have a nice…..??? I have a REAL LIFE to get back to!!!!
yeah sure you do…but you cant resist typing in this blog
Why not try and do something different and be nice for a change, its not very hard
To be spiteful and nasty when nobody see’s you is so easy
The things with trolls like you is that you crave attention…maybe your mommy and daddy abandoned you as a baby ape, and who can blame them if they did

Do I enjoy my SL yep.. does it interfer with my RL. nope. But it is my choice to be on SL and I am very proud of the work I have done there.. So who ever you are keep spouting and keep ranting because all you are doing is making me more proud of those around me and my choices…
By the way could someone please hand her some cheese to go with her whine…

OMG grow up!!! It’s noooo wonder you people escape your real lives. You act all flowers and sweet, yet come here over and over yourselves to bitch and moan. You all rip each other apart and you have the audacity to complain, because I call you out on it. What a bunch of little babies. You’re right sometimes telling the plain harsh truth isn’t very “nice.” Awww, I know that’s tough to hear and it sounds real mean. *smh* Yes, I would say it to you EXACTLY like this in real life. God you’re all so programmed you can’t even spell it out anymore REAL LIFE!!!!

blah, blah, blah about “opinions” this or that. You all sound the same and it’s a sad sad broken record. I wonder, how many of you can actually stop, look up from your screen and glance around the room or space you’re in. Hey, remember this place? It’s called the real world. If you devoted half the energy, time and money you throw away on this dumb, sick and twisted computer game, you might experience a different result in your real lives. The sad part is, most of you are so lost at this point, I would venture to guess you can’t tell the difference anymore.

Switch it off…you really are a bully.
I dont know Brittainy but would sooner spend 5 mins in SL chatting with her than a whole lifetime reading your insulting rubbish.
I am not sure about defamation as I dont know if its possible to legally defame an avitar.

However telling people to shut the eff up because you happen to disagree with them isnt nice. I wonder if you would do that in RL or like someone talking to you like that
Everyone does have the right to express their opinion, and that is the point of this place

However reading how you express yourself is not very nice
Its SL its a game, its meant to be fun. Whatever people are in it for is their business.

If people want to make money great good luck to them. If they do it in ways you disagree with then either tell them, avoid them like the plague or write in blogs like this.

However insulting people who you disagree with is not nice. Treat others how you like to be treated yourself
I avoid diva models, and tbh I know its just avitars and very few of us would be models rl or even want to be. Its just a bit of fun is all. If you feel the need to hide behind some strange name and be insulting then that speaks volumes for you.
At least Brittainy doesnt hide and even if you dont agree with what she says at least she doesnt leave you feeling disgusted with what she writes.
I dont hide either and am expecting my own personal trolls to come along, now that would be a suprise!

Brittainy, get over yourself! I didn’t point out how “awful” or “pathetic” anyone was. I didn’t “deflie” anyone’s character. You’re an exaggerating moron. Yeah right, anyone really believes you don’t “judge.” What a bunch of hype with no substance, you are. You want to know what I think “you should do?” Shut the eff up and shove your high and mighty BS attitude up your avatar A$$!!!

P.S. before you point out how classy or not, I am…let me say to you, “I could give a fu@# what YOU think!” Oh wait, you probably don’t do much of that….you know, thinking.

@ Brittainy first, I wasn’t “bitching.” I was making observations. There’s a difference, but you’re not witty enough to make the distinction. Not surprising. At any rate, second thing, I am entitled to my opinion and I expressed it. Perhaps I hit too close to the mark for you, hence the defensive response. You sound all saintly and above it all, but let’s be honest…you were the first to answer my post! Hahahahaha. Readers, I give you Brittainy Collins, case and point!

Tell me is this when i should stand up and applaud you for your own creativity? Or should I bow and take the honor *note the sarcasm here* that you seem to feel is your right to disguise as an opinion. I responded because I honestly feel its no one’s business who they are or what they do in RL. I dont have the right to judge others and I will not be the one to cast stones upon another when I know myself am not perfect by any means..

Don’t presume to know my reasons for responding nor why I am in SL. You call me saintly yet I am not the one who is writing in here about how awful everyone is or pathetic it is that they choose to do something with their time that you obviously do not wish to participate in..

My response was simply put a response. It was your words that attacked frolic’s real life.. a life that to be honest I have no need nor wish to have knowledge of. What did you gain from it besides the ability to stand on a soap box and spout vitriol.

Being entitled to ones opinion is a given. Purposely taking someone and defiling their character only for your purpose is not an opinion. So you can call me what ever you wish and say as you like. The difference is I truly just dont care what your opinion is because it will not affect me today or tomorrow.

There’s a saying, “If no one is talking about you, then you’re not important.” What does that say about this entire site? Every single one of you, bitch, moan, complain, defend and try to make sense of senselessness. The majority of you including those who are everyones favorite topics around here, are literally wasting….yes, WASTING precious hours of your lives on the computer. When you’re not wired in to Second Life, you’re here bitching, moaning, complaining and defending stupidity. I’m not sure I get it, so you participate and devote huge chunks of your lives to a VIRTUAL reality to essentially escape ACTUAL reality, only to find the same crap you’re trying to escape, exists there? Hello? Is anyone home? Apparently not, that would require one of you to have a clue and get a life….wait, not another Second Life, trying to avoid the five of those you screwed up. No, I meant fix the first one you were given and switch it off!!!!

You really have to pity people like Frolic who NOW is so out of touch with his own actual real life, he 100% lives in a pretend one. Very very very sad. The fact any of you give this man another sentence, another breath or another minute of your precious TIME is even more disturbing. Think about it.

and yet here you are bitching about those who are in second life but you would never know about Second Life if you yourself were not there.

As far as frolic’s personal RL goes.. who cares.. that is his life and none of our business. What and who one is in RL is their business and should not be harassed or spread about like common gossip. Why someone comes to SL. Why someone chooses to stay in SL.. completly up to them. No one has the right to judge another person’s life and one of the things that we should not be doing is casting stones about other’s rl. Fine we get it you dont like frolic.. I am sure there will be plenty of others you do not wish to associate with during your lifetime whether real or just through a computer screen.

There are going to be plenty who do not like you. Does that give them a right to come on here and bash your lifestyle and choices?

I think that Juan DC has a valid point that SL models have have been blinded because they hope to gain the attention of Frolic Mills in much the same way that teenagers would fill their bedroom with posters of Tom Cruise. Well, the only difference beetwen Frolic and Tom is that Tom is much better looking but, other than that, they share many other things in common. If you know the background of Frolic Mills , you will understand and see how truly negative and manipulative he is. He needs to appear the opposite of what he is, because it is part of his nature to control the minds of others in SL. He tried to do the same in RL for years but with less success.

Juan, firstly, I am not a big fan of frolic mills too so this comment is not to defend him or anyone. However to see you attack him like that over an article he wrote and trashing models in SL like you are not part of the community and calling people a looser in both their lives with no respect, it appeared that you are probably the person that is most affected by every frolic actions. Are you objective enough to post a comment like that and said to let others think or judge? I only see you as a disgrunted person that probably being rejected by your own community. If you can’t show any respects to others you do not deserved to be respected.

@Areyoufair? Your response reminded me of this quote. “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

it’s hard to say who is fighting and who is protecting…in second life there is no such thing as hopelessly depending on the systems because everyone is there by choice so if one is really unhappy with his/her second life then don’t logon, why blame someone else for making you miserable? Whether the facts are valid or not it doesn’t make it more right to attack the general because that makes this person a cyber bully too and I don’t see a different between this person and the frolic mills described. Whoever support behaviour like that is saying it is ok to attack anyone they dislike. If that’s the case there is no systems at all.

@Are you fair said-“in second life there is no such thing as hopelessly depending on the systems because everyone is there by choice so if one is really unhappy with his/her second life then don’t logon” T
hat may very well be true for you, but for alot of people involved in the “fashion” area, SL IS their life and they are addicted to it as much as a crack addict is addict to crack. When I used to play, I used to see people on my friends list who NEVER logged off. Even when they were sleeping (usually falling asleep at their computers) Waiting for paychecks to pay tiers they can afford in an effort to impress a bunch of strangers on a computer while letting their RL bills go.
“Whoever support behaviour like that is saying it is ok to attack anyone they dislike.” So disagreeing with someone that YOU “support” and calling them out on their bad behavior is cyberbulling? Nope. It’s called calling you out on you BS and if YOU don’t like it (take your own advice), you can log off, right?

I don’t support anyone in particular here so fat chance of you making that assumption and picking a fight and yes if I don’t like it I can ignore you. It is entirely fine if you think I am bs-ing, I never said you have to like what I said. Just don’t attack anyone unnccessarily because you are unhappy, that would make you a cyber bully for sure, exactly the behaviour your have exhibited…and please don’t blame someone else for your addiction and no this is not bs-ing, it is the fact.

Frolic Mills, the Happy Gay!
Oh Well, our dearest Frolic has now discovered himself to be a writer as well as philosopher and has now decided to shit his pearls of wisdom over large audience consisting mostly of housewives playing the part of virtual models of… of… of the virtual world called Secondlife!!! Oh yes, because you need to live a Secondlife when the first one is a serious failure, right Frolic Mills? Maybe it was too much for you to bear reaching your mid-life without having accomplished anything of note yet, still living with your mother, without a family, without love, and without a true career and a shady past, present and future. Your entire life has been a big lie, especially lying to yourself. You are a total failure. Everyone knows that when your aren’t in SL that you are busy in other games and virtual “distractions” on the web. So you are the worst example to follow and to listen to. To think that you, of all people, are trying to write about happiness. What you have managed to write is something that has made us smile because it is a ridiculous expression of your huge ignorance!

Your view of happiness is a view of your pride. And you are writing these things ONLY for your personal gain and business. Your purpose is to depress your readers and force them to think they are sad people because they don’t have a job in a virtual game and perhaps they should even perform a free service for you because that is the true reward. You are a false and constructed person, full of negativity and double intentions. You spent an entire life lying the others, and especially yourself, and you are happy in your negativity! Instead, my opinion, is that a virtual world should be lived according to that adjective, “virtually”. No obligations to anyone and especially not work for free at the behest of someone who claims it is enough reward just to be associated with BOSL. I find those models that follow you and hang on your every word crazy for their loss of real time and real money and all for nothing that has not even the value of being mentioned in a real curriculum. indeed, if anything, they should really be ashamed to reveal that they spend most of their lives as an avatar pretending to be what they really are not.

And as usual you use your shitty words to degrade the concept of couple and family, because you are full of envy and hate for those who have reached love in their lives and have built families.

When you paint the negativity of the others you are , in reality, mirroring yourself.

You carefully use the word destructive in order to avoid the word “suppressive” and hide your true agenda. Yes I know where you learned your manipulative techniques but i will stop here for now and let the readers try to understand for themselves first.

Your view of happiness is truly narrow minded and shallow just like yourself.

I believe, every model competition is rigged in SL. Lately we have seen Miss Bliss and MVW live auditions, results were not shocking, because the best known models win not because they are beautiful and super on modeling but just because they know all jurry.

Sadly, you are right. It wasn’t like this back when SL actually was fun and people went out of their way to be friendly and help. Maybe someone will sponsor a new competition and use unknown judges and models that have limited exposure. Hopefully that would wake up some of those people who keep picking the same ones over and over just because they have been in SL for 10 years and it’s their entire life.

It’s simple. Don’t join model competitions. To join a competition of any kind, one must be fully aware that the results will always seem unfair to somebody. As long as there are human opinions involved, it will not be fair for some. When people don’t have the strenght of character to take it all – winning or losing – it’s better not to compete at all.

I have to admit that Simple is right. It’s not rocket science that these contests are rigged, and the winners are usually mediocre models with excellent talent in kissing butt. So if you don’t like the rules of the game, simply don’t play. Boycott them. There are a handful other fun things to do in SL modeling than to spend your lindens on any store with unremarkable gowns and terrible flexi-bits. I think people put too much value on a fake crown and the ability to put something after their flickr name, than actual fashion in SL, and that’s sad. After all these silly contests are just ploys to increase sales for a particular store and I’m sure bliss couture made bank off the poor girls who thought they actually had a chance. The results this year were, once again, really, really, really disappointing, but expected. And, probably one of the reasons I haven’t shopped there in 2 years – everything is soooo tragically boring (stating my personal opinion). I thought some of the other contestants really shined this year, so hats off to them! I think they were pretty incredible for being dismissed the way they were and that’s bliss couture’s loss. **over n’ out!

you speak as if you know how every decision and judging are made and you know all the finalists. Please give some credits to those who have worked hard and finally have a breakthrough in their career. You are judging when you said someone is a mediocre and ass kissing. So who do you think should won?

My whole point about Markski was not about Markski at all or even the current winners. Is cheating the rules to enter wrong? Yes it is. If women want to enter the male contest and vice versa then lobby Frolic to change the rules. They are his rules and cheating is cheating no matter how you look at it. Havining said that I was not discouraged by the revelations that women entered as men but more by the fact the a judge (Finesmith) condoned it, allowed it, and said nothing about it. We are supposed to trust the judges to be moral and ethical in their decisions. The fact that one of them knowingly violated the rules is a serious breach of trust and makes me question if all the time I have spent entering MVW many times over was worth it. I have never said anything bad at losing and I’ve always congratulated the winners. But now I have to wonder if I even had a chance because the judges are not honest. It even makes me wonder if Frolic knew because he is very close to his judges. A contest has rules for a reason. If you don’t like them you lobby for change. A judge has a duty to uphold those rules in all circumstances. Does anyone here disagree with that?

I also discovered that Official MVW judges do NOT get picked until one week prior to the event, and Yula was not on the monthly judging pannel who were the ones who picked the candidates, she was a judge ONLY for the finale.

So Yula played no part in getting Markski as a finalist whatsoever, in fact maybe it was her who convinced Markski to pull out, maybe it was Markski himself who pulled out, or maybe it was Frolic who caught him and disqualified him. Whatever the story is, the right thing happened and I don’t understand why you keep blaming Yula for something she had no part in.

yes I am angry.. I find what goes on here the character trashing and the harassment of people pathetic. And yet any number of people here will come into SL and kiss the very people they are trashing asses. They hide behind quirky little names so no one can ever tell who they are because truly they do not wish those comments to be attached to them…

This site was supposed to be of beneficial use instead it has become nothing more then a bitch fest for whiny children who feel that it becomes them to play the bully in an anon way.

and you think it is ok to hide behind an anon title and bash people for your amusement.. I wonder I truly do what you will feel the day you come in here and discover that you are the subject of that bashing… When something you felt was personal and private is suddenly everyones business.. A title does not give anyone the right to defame’s someones character or place themselves on a god syndrome where they feel they have the right to say and do as they wish concerning those around them…

I don’t comment on anyone or anything tha I’ve not had direct experience with and know what they did to be true. Face it, there are some f’d up people in SL and they get called out on their s**t. Like I said before, if you don’t like it, stay awwwwayyyyy!

and yet I can do as you did and point to the above title and say this is a simple conversation. the difference is this is a conversation about you. I find it amazing how defensive one will get when the tables are turned and their own behavior is brought into question. you say you only talk needless harm about those you have had direct expierance with and yet you still will not tell who you are. Why is that.. because simply put you are afraid that your words will in fact do harm and anger those around you to the point YOUR SL is affected. You think this is a safe enviroment where you can act the bully and say as you please. that it is your right to act judge and jury for those around you because YOU decided you do not like nor approve of their actions..

Will my words change those around me? Probably not but one could hope that at least one or two people will stop and think before they follow your example. Try to remember this site was supposed to be for the beneficial uses and now it has become nothing but a trash talking gossip rag. Let me give you a few definitions I think you should try to understand.

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. This can be also any disparaging statement made by one person about another, which is communicated or published, whether true or false,

Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power. It can include verbal harassment, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability.[2][3] The “imbalance of power” may be social power and/or physical power.

– both taken from wiki.. try and take responsiblity for your actions before you jump to point fingers at others.

Cut and paste is awesome don’t you agree? Don’t you have some dishes to do or garbage to take out or something? LOL! My stance is this, unless someone said something DIRECTLY about you, you should mind your own business and stop trying to tell others how they are supposed to act on a blog that doesn’t belong to you. I have other things to do today so this is my last reply to you. Have fun!

and so you show exactly your true self in your reply. you cant avoid being antagonistic. Instead of understanding how your behavior impacts others you make it their fault.

to answer you. You made it everyone’s business when you decided to post here. You made it public knowledge and free to post and have an opinion based upon your words. Every action has a reaction. you don’t like my words which are aimed at your behavior well that is ironic to say the least.

I am not telling you how you should behave. I am honestly amused that you have become defensive and continue to hide. Those who read this will see for themselves that you do not have the courage to back up what you say and therefore that makes it all the more inconsiquential.

Exactly and who someone is is their personal affair. How dare you come on here and use it as a way to trash someone. You sound bitter and angry over loosing MVW. World and steele are two of the findest and kindest people i know. Grow up and stop acting like a child. truth sayer you call yourself but really all you are is a gossip hound who enjoys spreading drama.

How would you like someone to come on here and spread a bit of truth about you that you didnt wish for public consumption.. no way you dont want that hence you hide behind a silly name.

and one more thing while i am thinking of it! This is a Virtual World.. something all of you drama whores keep forgetting! WHO we are here is who we wish to be! that is the beauty of it! TO sit here and decide that you do not approve of that or how they choose to live their SL is wrong and down right pathetic. So what if a man comes here and chooses to be a female or vice versa! This is again a fantasy world where we are only limited by either or short sightedness or imagination you choose.

I would bet you money that every single one of you have behaved badly in SL. How many husbands and wives come into SL and leave their panties at the door. You bitch and whine about who someone wishes to be yet how many forget that in Rl they are married and go ehhh its a virtual world it doesnt count as cheating.. I bet if one was to look at you personally you wouldnt like it and you wouldnt be so damn quick to jump on a damn soap box and act all moral!

I didn’t trash anyone. I merely stated what is a known fact. FYI, I was NOT in MVW. And yes, World and Steele are very kind people,

I know people come in as whomever they choose to be, however the whole premise behind Mr/Miss Virtual World is they are the gender they are representing. Frolic does voice interviews for just this reason.

Anyone can be whatever/whomever they choose in SL, but to POSSIBLY cheat the system by using a male friend/partner for the interviews isn’t acceptable in any instance.

I never said World was a woman or Steele was a woman; I said ONE of them was a woman. It seems it’s clear who the woman is from the previous statement from Investigation Done’s comment.

yes i do because you might not have stated who was who but you sure as hell tried to point fingers in order to get somethng going.. how about instead of hiding behind a fake name you actually show some gumption and say who you are.. how is what you are doing any different then others on here who are trashing people.. you disclosed information on this site that was not yours to disclose..

It was a pathetic attempt to draw attention to someone else by say oohhh dont pick on her instead GO PICK ON HIM!!!

You want to act the child then at least have the curtusy to say who you are instead of hiding. Unless you are afraid of course people finding out that your more then willing to spout shit but not back it up with who you are.

but did it stop you from your attempt? did you once state who you are.. no you can point to someone elses post but the point is YOU posted this to begin with and asked for this investigation because you did not approve of people picking on eshi.

I at least have the balls to stand here and say my opinion and back it up with who I am. I dont hide behind a silly name hoping that i can say what i please and NO ONE will ever know.

If your going to spout pathetic attempts at wearing big girl pants then say yoru name otherwise all you are is just one more drama whore who looks at harassing people and oh yes i believe its called defamation of character.

Does what you did make you respectful? I dont think so and in fact I would be ashamed to call you a friend. You can sit there and grasp onto what you posted but you still posted stuff that was NONE of yoru business….

If your going to throw stones be prepared for people to throw them back at you… A great saying from when i grew up “two wrongs DONT make it right..”

Oh Brittainy…(le sigh) You really are a deluded creature, aren’t you? I suppose your real name is brittainy collins? Also, I’m sure the people at the supermarket are terrified when your cartoon face goes shopping. SOOooooo….who is hiding, huh?

those who know me know I do not hide.. and I have no issue being addressed by my real name. My issue is those who come in here and use the agency report which is supposed to give us information concerning agencies out there as a personal targeting weapon. I am not the deluded creature and no my real life name is not brittainy collins, but I have raised two daughters and i would never wish them to behave in the manner i have seen people in this chat behave. Yet you are supposed to be intelligent adults. Tell me since your so worried about me being a deluded creature.. what is your name in SL. in fact tell us all your name and stand up for your opinions. Show that you are not afraid to speak up and voice them as yourself instead of hiding in such a manner that will give you the upper hand to bully those around you.

I am not posting anything in support of black or Eshi, don’t lump me in with them. A comment against the contest does not put me in support of those two. I am posting in regard to the revelation that Marksi is really a woman. Enough people have already stated here and inworld this fact. It doesn’t matter that you don’t care about the gender of this person because whether you care or not changes nothing of their actions. The offense was that she joined the contest as a male and a judge knowingly condoned it. For all of us that spent time and money entering these contests it creates a bit of a question as to the legitimacy of contest. Even if she quit the contest early it does not change the facts of the case or the offense of a contest judge. I have always stood by frolic and poo poo’d the naysayers in the past but this occurrence is different and it’s causing me to rethink everything that has been criticized in the past.

Definition of Cyber-Bully (Troll)
Cyber-bullying (Trolling) involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others. Cyber-bullying can be as simple as continuing to send e-mail to someone who has said they want no further contact with the sender, but it may also include threats, sexual remarks, pejorative labels (i.e., hate speech), ganging up on victims by making them the subject of ridicule in forums, and posting false statements as fact aimed at humiliation.

Cyber-bullies may disclose victims’ personal data (e.g. real name, address, or workplace/schools) at websites or forums or may pose as the identity of a victim for the purpose of publishing material in their name that defames or ridicules them. Some cyberbullies may also send threatening and harassing emails and instant messages to the victims, while other post rumors or gossip and instigate others to dislike and gang up on the target. Research had demonstrated a number of serious consequences of cyber-bullying victimization. For example, victims have lower self-esteem, increased suicidal ideation, and a variety of emotional responses, cyberbullying back, being scared, frustrated, angry, and depressed.

One of the most damaging effects is that a victim begins to avoid friends and activities, often the very intention of the cyber-bully.

Cyber-bullying campaigns are sometimes so damaging that victims have committed suicide. There are at least four examples in the United States where cyber-bullying has been linked to the suicide of a teenager.The suicide of Megan Meier Meieris a recent example that led to the conviction of the adult perpetrator of the attacks.

oh FFS. Wasn’t there a post here a while ago that Marksi quit Mr. VW? He did not even go to any styling challenge. Go to the MVW website and watch the video, he’s not even in it as a contestant. For whatever the reason he quit the contest, whether he knew he violated the rules, or he was busted (at this point, there is still no evidence to prove his RL gender.) It’s just pointless to keep bringing it up. Quite frankly, I don’t think people really care if he really is a guy or not behind the computer. Nice try on changing the topic Blackliquid/Eshi spawns.

Because of the recipe wars we never came around to finishing the Marski issue. The problem is not so much with Marski himself/herself but that fact that Finesmith knew about this while Marski was attempting to pass herself off as a man. That means a judge in the contest knowingly allowed the violation. If a judge was ethically and morally compromised then that makes Frolic suspect as well. Every year he avows that his contests are fair but this incident flies in the face of that. If one of his trusted judges knew then how do we know Frolic wasn’t aware? Is everyone wasting their time and money trying to compete?

If something along the same scale were to occur in the Miss America pageant what kind of response do you think it would generate? I know this little SL event is not in the same league but I bring it up for sake of example. The people entering are still entitled to at least as fair a competition simply from an ethical perspective.

OMG…. FINALLY…thank you! They weren’t bots, they were people posting for Eshi, their recipes to try to dissuade others from bashing her here.

Her Facebook was sending people to the Agency Report site to post their recipes here to spam this site with nothing more than a cookbook. Great idea in a cooking site…but very very annoying in a site with nothing to do with food!

If you are all interested, might I suggest you buy my “Betty Crocker Cookbook” for some delectable treats! I don’t use spam in any of my recipes, but I most certainly recommend trashing the spoiled items.

I don’t know what started this whole recipe posting thing, but it certainly is very strange! If you want to share that type of content go to a cooking site. All I can think of why this happened is that some individuals are trying to confuse the search algorithms for this site, or it’s just random spam from bots. Sorry all for not being on top of it!

Eshi is simply revealing all of her mediocrity, probably dictated by a deep inner loneliness and discomfort. Her responsibility for certain atrocities in Secondlife is underscored by the fact that she is hailed by a community of incompetent virtualized citizens as well as a protection by a friend within LL. But in reality it is a childish and immature woman that never matured even in the face of misfortunes and cannot curb her actions. Even children know when it is time to stop the games. That she does not know when to stop at something stupid, like this spam, it is indicative of a person that is potentially dangerous and cannot control herself. That she has nothing important for herself in the real world and a lack of intelligence, is indicated by the fact that she is spending all of her time to fill this site in futility. Among other things, she also has an obvious taste for horror. with all the pretty girls there are in this world, she chose to partner with a fat, ugly and terrible person (Blackliquid). Well, i suppose someone just like her. She cannot detach herself from this virtual life and suffers from it as a drug. Just look at some of the real photos of Black and Eshi. If the eyes are the mirror of the soul, then theirs are very dark and troubled. In reality, people stay away from people like them. The rest of us are probably fortunate that Second Life has taken you away from the real world of people.

Note: both her facebook friends are the same ones who are here, virtually and as alts.

No sane woman would post such an account of her husbands death. It really seemed a game of fame for you.

All eshi has done is prove what others have known about her for a long time, she is rude, crass and very egotistical. All you sheep that think she is your friend.. really? Do you really believe she gives a toss about you other than to use when it suits her?

I’m not sure what the point is in spamming this website because others do not agree with your opinions, Eshi. I fact, I and others were quite irritated by your spam to inciting bullying (which is exactly what you are doing) on Facebook. The fact that you also have other people spamming their friends list is even more annoying. Please restrict your “recipe book” to your OWN friends list and your OWN group on Facebook, because truthfully, what you are doing is worse than what you are accusing/retaliating for.

Agency Report has been a website where everybody can speak out, even anonymously for the general public, like I’m doing now (even tho AR managers know all our IP addresses). However, spamming is spamming. There is an issue that’s been descussed here and it’s really tedious to read recipes, clearly identified by the person who is spamming.

I’d like to ask the managers of AR to think if this is the way you really want to take care of this website.

Along the years that AR has been up, I’ve seen comments being changed, threads being opened, for a better organization of the website, so that people can keep up with things that are going on or issues that people want to talk about, anonymously or not.

I’m aware that this particular thread can be open to may subjects and issues, but when people spam, it should be treated like spam. In respect for all your readers, something should be done to avoid this. I’ll leave this to your consideration.

Well frankly, as I see it, the title of this section is….- General Warnings, Scams, Gripes, Rants, Conversations, Cat Fights, Etc

So by all rights Cookbook recipes falls into the Warnings category. Please don’t cook using these recipes….just a warning. But in all seriousness, all comments about anything are totally acceptable IN THIS THREAD ONLY…..this was the purpose of this thread topic. So please, post as many recipes as you want here…Betty Crocker would be proud…lol….Just dont screw up the rest of the board please…. thanks….🙂

why don’t you just go ask him? even if he didn’t go through the contest doesn’t be he didn’t get that title. does it really bother you that much that he uses that title? do you feel that inferior to him just from that title or something? that tag doesn’t even mean that much at all that you have to go bother people and rally them up for a vote….. can’t you just disregard him? it’ll make your life easier.

why are you guys so hung up on markski? did it even occur to you that he already dropped out early during his year? why are you guys all bitching about it when he never even went through with the pageant?

I don’t think a vote is what we need, I think Frolic needs to step up and make this right. I, for one, am having a difficult time believing he was not aware of this. He’s very close to Finesmith who is very close to Marski. She had to have known and as we’ve seen by the posts here so did others. At the very least she is guilty, as a judge, of supporting a faker and helping to rig the results. All of this goes against Frolic’s assurances in the past the the results are not rigged. He has also been conspicuously absent from here and i’m sure he’s read this and is trying to figure out damage control. Sorry but the damage is done. Everyone who has ever entered either contest appears to have wasted their time and money.

LETS VOTE FOR MARKSKI (THE FAKER) TO HAVE HIS MR. VIRTUAL TAG REVOKED!!!! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! FROLIC WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THIS????? THIS IS A SHAME FOR YOUR AGENCY…… MVW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? FAVORITISM?? WHAT A SHAME!!

What is the reason Eshi is posting so many recipes? Is it perhaps to obscure the content that was written here before in an attempt to save her beloved Blackliquid?

Well I have another theory. It is a well known fact that Blackliquid and Eshi have been fighting a losing battle against their obesity for many years. I believe that they have collaborated with a dietician to develop a new method of weight lost for them. They post their favorite, fat engendering recipes here on the forum and the act of typing is their equivalent of vigorous exercise such that maybe in 10-20 they will have burned enough fat to fit into something as small as a size 18.

For this reason we should probably endure their recipe trolling as a way to help them succeed in their goals of reducing a few pillows of fat from the midsection. Perhaps blackliquid will actually be able to grow some eyebrows as well.

It’s already been pointed out that Marski is really a woman posing with a male avatar. This is not a problem itself. The problem is her entry into Mr. Virtual World and doing so knowingly against the rules. Frolic takes great pains to make sure Miss Virtual World is all female and I’m sure he does the same for the male version of the contest. So why was she allowed to enter? Are you telling me Frolic did not know? If Frolic didn’t know Finesmith surely did. And she said nothing even being a judge? It’s another display of her lack of moral and ethical values. If I were Frolic I would ban her from judging all future contests of his. She’s certainly a nice and sweet person right up until the moment she isn’t. All of her friends laugh with her when she pulls this crap just as they did when she fired Blackliquid in lieu of payment.

And where is Frolic after this announcement? Are you can say she didn’t win so what’s the harm? You face a big backlash every year with complaints that your contests aren’t fair and unless you take a side on this issue where one of your contestants entered while violating the rules while one of your judges knew about it and let it happen it will only serve to underscore their points in the future.

looks like these people have finally lost it! i hope they just stay in their kitchen with their recipes and never come out again. they really are so generous though, providing us with so many recipes for ridding us of their existence.

If you don’t know for sure don’t write anything, that will make you look dummier than Ashia like what you are saying, Scryer Zirgar is a real person stupid bitch. Yes blackliquid has alts but this one is not it. LMAO!

Yes, you’re right you can be whatever you want on SL BUT for Marski Glom to be part of Mr. MVW last year and has fooled everyone into making them think she is a he now that is falsifying facts. Who else knows what else he/she has lied about. Shame on you Marski!

“For all of you perverts out there, Markski is a woman so why does she need a male skin and shape?”

And why would you even care? What business is it of yours that someone choses to be inworld with a nekko avatar, a kid’s avatar, whatever? Hello?!? This is SL!

If you so admire black and you think this is so perv, ask her why the hell did she fall for a woman in a male avatar LMAO she felt so hard that she still can’t leave him alone.

Why is she partnered with herself (Scryer Zirgar – black’s alt) in SL while poor Ashia (being a female avatar) is so adoring black(also a female avatar) . Gay thing right here. OMG! Are they gay? Are they bi? This is a shock for everybody in SL! Are black and Ashia having sex on screen with black’s son in the same room in rl?? Perv thing again! It’s the end of the world as we know it!!

I wonder if black taking is her pills for her forever ongoing depression? Cause Eshi may need some. I mean Eshi is alluciating right here on AR. we can diagnose a severe case of allucinogenic mushrooms, caused by the recipe thingy going on.

And hey, keep admiring black, she surely needs it after all this LMAO.

Ashia Denimore, you stupid little fool. It is so easy to see right through you. You should be ashamed of yourself for discussing someone’s RL information. How low class of you in a fight you really don’t have a part in. You obviously know only one of blackliquid’s personalities because she has not shown you the others yet. You do not even really know her. You have proven yourself to be as disgusting as she is with your participation in what she did to Markski. You’ll now be as much of an outcast as she has become – not that you were anyone notable before this anyway, which is probably why your head is up her ass. What a dummy you are.

Toss the jealousy and mood swings into a large stock pot. Stir while adding tantrums until the mixture is thick and murky. In a separate bowl, whisk together the stale friendships and the romantic rejection. Gradually add the revenge until the concoction turns black and dump this into the large pot, adding to the jealousy, mood swings, and tantrums. Add the ass-kissing minion and let the stew simmer. Just before serving, toss the washed-up has-been diva into the pot. Stew is ready to serve when the noise stops. Serves 12. Enjoy with a warm piece of humble pie.

I am admiring Eshi and Ashia for standing up for Blackliquid, strong powerful women that makes a difference on SL. Ashia I wish I was in your position right now, two thumbs up for you, you are a lucky girl.

These are fabulous recipes, but I couldn’t eat another bite! Would you care to share the recipe you use to continue to associate yourself with someone many people cannot tolerate? Is it Pepto bismuth? Does that fix your cases of blackliquid?😀

JESUS FEBREZE-US. Let us pray…dear lord, help us get past these wretched woes (blackliquid) by giving us the strength to not hire her for she has publicly shown us she is not as professional as her anonymous alter ego says she is.

blackliquid is forever a washed up diva and has been for the longest time. the damage was done ages ago, but these new ignorant ass chasing puppies keep popping up to feed her enormous ego while she constantly claws to hang on to any attention she can find. none of your little essays you little ass chasing puppies post will change anything. so, TLDR.

You are all pathetic liars, enormously envious, and denied the reality of the facts about Blackliquid. The fact is that Blackliquid is a very good person, generous, creative, honest and with a high sense of professionalism. Because she asks so much of herself she also demands a lot from others. She lives her career as a supermodel in SL with all of the professionalism comparable to that of a real model. She has modeled for top designers, for great magazines such as Avenue and Modavia, she’s a photography genius and a model that sells products. Blackliquid expresses a professional attitude and great skills in all she does.

Her name is associated with all of the best charity events. She is a true icon of style evidenced by how well she’s followed on flickr. You cannot simply accuse Blackliquid and Eshi, who have demonstrated over the years, that they are the best model and the best designer in Second Life, that they have copied Yula finesmith.

I definitely think that Yula Finesmith couldn’t boast a resume like Eshi Otawara (who has won real prizes and has university degrees in the arts). Eshi has never used the full perms sculpties available on marketplace for her designs, while Yula relies on those purchases (without changing them at all from how they appear in marketplace I might add), she imitates real jewelry designers (just look at deviantart and the heart she copied in every detail from there for skip), she copied the ideas of Eshi (see her umbrellas), she asked Black to do all of her photos and, as opposed to Eshi, she has no real educational background to back up her supposed skills. Eshi used Blackliquid as a muse to be creative, while Yula Finesmith used the skills of Blackliquid to be creative. Yula has no imagination. Why do you think she is such a failure in real life? She can do nothing more than put together sculpties which she buys from marketplace. If Yula didn’t hire the best photographers to make her jewelry look the best it can in photos she would never sell anything. We all know how different the real thing is from the photos she uses to promote. It is pathetic! Blackliquid is the undisputed queen of fashion and she will be for many years to come.

For all of you perverts out there, Markski is a woman so why does she need a male skin and shape?

Black!! Finally you decided to show up here!! You’re the only one who actually could spell your SL name correctly!

or probably you’re Eshi, also a good blackLiquid’s supporter (yay I also spelled it right!)

Definitely, blackLiquid made a very smart move: how many models out there in SL do have a shape with their names? Not so many, I guess. Now Marksi Glom has a shape with his name. He’s definitely famous! And thanks to black’s ability to make good shapes! That’s what I call generosity! A heart full of generosity! Thank God there is a blackLiquid out there! Very smart move, indeed😉

Do I hear a tad bit of jealousy here? Smart move on blackLiquid, hats off to her! I’m sure Marski deserved it, since he only associates with those he can benefit from and once he’s done he moves onto someone else he can leech on. And who are you to judge people’s lives outside of SL? Really, you need to find yourself a life then spend all your time on here bitcin’ about others. Obviously you must have some kind of hangup on blackLiquid to keep talking about her. As for Ashia, she is a wonderful, strong woman and a good friend I am glad to have gotten to know so for you to say she’s a brown noser, look in the mirror at yourself first before casting the first stone!

Now, what you should think about, girl, is why is Blackliquid still partnered with her alt in SL – Scryer Zirgar – and hasn’t partnered you.
And why is she still after Markski LMAO? Are you sure she loves you or does she still have such a a crush on Markski (rl male or female, doesn’t matter) that she keeps attacking and attacking. Why is that? Food for though huh?
Are you sure you’re defending the right person ;)?

If Blackliquid already forgot Markski dumping her, why is she still after him or her (whatever you prefer) ?

Who said Markski is a man??? looool. I will leave it there. I have my own opinion, confident and secured. I don’t need to kiss anybody’s ass, oh please.Those who are so perfect telling blackliquid off, how about you show your RL picture and see who will be hotter you or her lol. This site is so entertaining I am enjoying it for now, but you guys need to be good I might get bored easily.

I don’t care who you like or dislike….I just read your profile and I love it!! Why haven’t we talked before? IM me. I’ve never had an issue with anyone, including blackliquid, she came and went from iC Motions without much more than a breeze, to each their own I say.

I’m not one to bring upon the drama or even put up with it…..but I must say I agree with you, reading this stuff is like crack!! Just makes me sit back and laugh….so entertaining…

and to all the iC models and staff out there you bring me nothing but adoration and respect for your professionalism and hard work. Love you all,

I guess Markski saw her RL photo and got the F out of there! LOL! What does Blackliquid’s husband and child(ren) have to say about her being with other men in SL? I swear, you grown women with little kids should be focusing the time you spend in SL on your kids.
Aisha, sweetie, your nose is so brown and so far up her ass it’s a wonder you can breathe.

What Blackliquid did with Markski Glom’s shape was outrageous! First of all, she offered him the shape. Period. Does it make sense to ask him not to use it? Blackliquid gave it to him, no conditions asked! Then, cause he just decided not to be with her, she just attacked back.
Ashia, if you think that a person who claims back an offer is a good person, think twice.
Then, the ultimate and the most unprofessional thing to do: give away the shape for free, promoting it inworld and in her Flickr account, even adding private information given to her by Markski himself – the skin he was wearing. Blackliquid had no right to publicly share the skin he was wearing. All of that cause Markski dumped her? Think twice again Ashia, cause you are with Blackliquid now; one day if you dump her she will attack you , too. Be sure of that, girl!

Whoa first of all, An old ex of blackliquid, protect yourself…please.. and Oh So Sour, nice to meet you, I think we will be seeing each other more after this post then. I am new in this site aren’t you wanna welcome me?

Don’t you think everyone has the right to work with whoever they want? we are a free country and has a free will. Plus I hope you are too hot to not be ashamed of saying all those things. Blackliquid is one of the amazing people in SL, inside and out. I know this because I got a chance to get to know her and yes I cannot wait for you to say bad things about me too just for replying on this site but I am not afraid. I cannot wait to get to know you more.

P.S Vero Modero is the best place to work ever, Bou is a great person whoever knows her will agree with me.

Blackliquid is a dangerous subject. After having problems with Yula she soon decided to support Vero Modero (famous for copying the work of the talented Gizza who is a dear friend of Yula) and badmouthing Gizza to no end. Not content with this alone, she asked Eshi to build products for her that were originally ideas of Yula. It would be interesting to have a look at the inventories of Blacks alts to see how many copybotted items of these creators she has and has shared full perm. I am embarrassed to have ever had anything to do with you blackliquid. Oh, and maybe you should stop eating cake.

ugly. voldemort face. i wish i can cast crucio on her. she is so riddikulus. i learned a new charm…. one focuses his/her mind on the most beautiful person he/she has ever seen and incant the spell, “EXPECTO BLACKLIQUM!” extremely effective in repelling the atrocious muggle accurately named blackliquid and any other ugliness. please, spread the word… whenever one has an unwanted encounter with this abomination, “EXPECTO BLACKLIQUM!!!”

Blackliquid, sour grapes made you give away the shape you made for a guy who wanted nothing to do with you and going so far as to post it in groups.

You really are as pathetic as they say. No wonder you’re becoming the social outcast of the modeling world and nobody wants to work with you anymore. And you wonder why people talk about you. Look in the mirror.

Figured I should probably share the attempt to start Virtual Male Models, particularly with the owner appearing to have no previous experience (I’ve done a google search) with modeling and no picks in his profile. He has also made homophobic statements. It all throws up red flags for me.

Well 2012 Mr Virtual World was a big disappointment! I thought
2011 was much better. I thought Mr UK was not what I expected
the fact he won was a surprise. SL has changed in the year I’ve been gone, can’t say I miss it at all. Frolic my hats off to you for still making money after all these years, at least your not getting any of mine LOL.

As a close friend of Vivien Emerald, I can honestly say That she is NOT an alt of Xanadu.
so in response to the xanadu scammer post that says she is, I suggest that unless you know them personally, you keep your mouth firmly shut and your incorrect assumptions to yourself.

Vivien Emerald is a very stylish and classy model for a start, and also, she produces extremely classy and stylish clothes for her new Desir’ store,.

If Blackliquid is a psychopath, then my dear you are a sociopath. As you clearly have shown many of the traits for one. Sadly maybe you can both attend the same hospital🙂 I do hope over time, your condition improves and that you life will get back to it normal mode of existance.

She is an avatar that presumes to be UNIQUE in second life as a model, a photographer and a designer, winning over everyone and everything, a dominatrix behind a monitor sitting on her real life throne, a giant toilet. She has no love or anyone and no real friends. Her only love is the love of money. Life has not given her the gift of the beauty, she is overly obese with a flabby ass and huge, failing tits. She is as dirty inside as out, selling her fat ass as a slut, earning money in Rl with sexual activities, in other words, prostitution. yes Blackliquid tokyoska is a professional whore. And this woman has the presumption that she is an icon of style in Secondlife, insulting and threatening everyone, especially those who gave her help and money. Only Modavia, a haunt for prostitutes, would actually promote such a shame of a women! She is a vampire who sucks the blood of her victims to the last drop, as she is doing with Yula. A moneylender from the virtual world, who does nothing for anyone without gain for herself. Yula has been a slave of the mistress Blackliquid for many months, being taken advantage of because of financial problems. Blackliquid is a psychopath that should be locked up in an asylum before ending up in a criminal hospital, because she could kill a person with all the evil and filth that she has inside.

Awwwww sweet Andrzej… did someone give you the idea that you had any kind of relevance any more? You haven’t had for years darling. Hurry along, it’s almost 7pm – isn’t that around the time you usually fake your own death?

You aren’t allowed to play with the adults any more. Kiddies table is to the left.

Jesika , We are asking you once again to let Kamilia doing her own things in peace.. She doesnt have time for this kind of game. And me neither.. I know everything about it and i’m asking you to leave her alone. otherwise this will have consequences.

I suppose I should be flattered…means my bitchy street cred is working?

But in all seriousness let it be known the following accounts are one. I’ve reported every incident and muted each (not that i think that does anything…but give me a bit of peace). And I would suggest anyone who doesn’t wanna get pulled into some stupid drama do the same. This has been ongoing for me for over 2 years…and i guess when he/she gets bored they go on the attack.

wow… Zack should thank her for honoring him having such kind of influence to decide who should be in the top 60 in the Bliss contest. Maybe this person should stop blaming everyone and start thinking why even the agency she works for not include her in their video.

The person who cannot even make top 60 in that Bliss contest and blames everybody excpt herself is blackLiquid? What a revelation! Speaking of brown nosers, you are kissing her ass so hard. At least he had the guts to defend himself against the lies she is spreading.

Bish please! Have you people even seen a recent photo of Ms. Blackliquid? The photos she shows everyone are old as hell. LOL! Well, she looks like HatchetFace from that movie Crybaby (google and weep). Drug abuse and bad living will do that to you. Shut the Front Door…Bww ahahahahhahha. I’ve seen corns on peoples feet cuter than you bish.

None of that makes any difference or takes away from the fact that Blackliquid is the reason for any and all of Finesmiths success. The talent came from Blackliquid. The ideas came from Blackliquid. The money came from Blackliquid.

It really doesn’t matter if they had disagreements, fought, or hate each other now. From an ethical standpoint Finesmith should have paid Blackliquid everything she owed her. If Finesmith had screwed over anyone else of you like this, taking your money, your friendship and using you then you all would be screaming for her head. Because it happened to Bkackliquid you think it’s justice because you don’t like her. But it doesn’t make it any more right and it exposes the true colors of Finesmith.

I can understand the comment about Xanadu and Finesmith from the point that they have both engaged in unscrupulous acts at the expense of others. It’s no wonder they associate with each other because evil seeks itself out. The fact that they ejected what you would consider one of their own does not change who either of them are and you should all be wary.

Wow hey, i am flattered u think i have 10% talent. As with the other 90%, i have to agree with u, since i decided to take a step back from modeling in March this year to focus on the magazine and my blog, i have had to kiss the ass of wordpress, flickr, adobe photoshop and issuu to run smoothly so i could get things done on time. That is A LOT of asskissing i need to do to meet deadlines, hence 90% is a relatively good estimate.
Also, I do not have control over situations when designers IM me to model for them. Maybe you should IM them with your theory/opinion of me, who knows, they might hire u in my place, when they do, u might achieve 90% asskissing and you can reduce ur level of bitterness to 10%.

Zach — LOL
Now there’s a laughingstock if there ever was one. Zach IS a biatch and is the poster child for kissing ass to get ahead, common knowledge to pretty much all. Zach is 10 % talent and 90 % ass kissing and positioning himself around people who he thinks can do something for him, and the latter is the only reason he’s got any shred of success. Outside of his little clique, Zach is a joke, and I’m sure Blackliquid could care less whether he likes her or not, just like lots of people out here.

Oh? That post sounds suspiciously like Finesmith but didn\’t she say that she was against anonymous posts? Or maybe she said it simply because Frolic did. The little ass kisser. In reality she supports only those things that benefit her and only in the moments that they do, the hypocrite. She\’s been trying to worm her way into Frolic\’s inner circle and kissing his ass for years. I know because she confided in me many of her dirty little secrets. Take a closer look at the Xanadu/Finesmith relationship. There\’s more there than anybody realizes.

i treat her as a friend. after i get more well known in SL, she start to insult me. i am really hurt, i see her as a real friend, i cry for days when she insults me.
even now, when i see her name, i burst into tears. i once dream of marry her because she’s so beautiful RL
Even now that she treats me rudely and blackmails me, i still dream of her, and i cry every night, i miss her..

Blackliquid is a geniusly skilled and talented woman. Could it be that there is a reason she belongs to the best agencies?? MAYBE SHE IS JUST A GREAT SUPERMODEL? If you say NO it is clear sign of your envy!!! Unlike other models she shows that she is a REAL person. She doesn’t hide herself, her name, her photo, and she has demonstrated great fashion, in both SL and RL, as woman and as graphic/photographer and as a MISTRESS.

Unlike yula finesmith, BLACKLIQUID is a professional dominatrix with A HEART. finesmith is only trying to copy the Mistress Blackliquid, but she is lacking a necessary piece, the HEART.

finesmith should be kneeling in front of Blackliquid and kissing her feet for all that she did for her.

– Blackliquid offered her a sim when she was having financial problems
– Blackliquid did a lot of incredible photos for her
– Blackliquid recommended her for designer’s groups
– Blackliquid did shows for her
– Blackliquid helped her with adverts
– Blackliquid is the source of finesmith’s best ideas……….. ATRUE MUSE
– Blackliquid exposed herself to help finesmith with problematic situations, especially with models finesmith didn’t liked.

finesmith forced black to look like the evil one when in reality the evil one was her and only her.

WHO IS yula finesmith without Blackliquid??!!? Nobody!!!

MODELS HAVE BEEN LEAD TO BELIEVE THAT BLACKLIQUID HAS BEENCONTROLLING FINESMIT, BUT THIS WAS ONLY BECAUSE FINESMITH WANTED THEM TO THINKTHAT!!! IN REALITY FINESMITH USED BLACK TO MAKE HER APPEAR BAD WHEN SHE HAD TOSAY NO TO SOME MODELS!

What did finesmith do? She paid Blackliquid less than the amount they had agreed on and then she fired her.

finesmith wants to demonstrate that she is the big diva and the big mistress and the only way for her to do this is to screw over the real one, Blackliquid Tokyoska, and take her place.

Blackliquid doesn’t need yula finesmith’s money. She is not as greedy as her. The problem is that yula finesmith used a lot of skilled models, promising oceans and mountains, and she paid them nothing or less than what she promised, especially the females. And there is a reason for that too. Too many noticed what she was doing with Skip and other males in SL without respect for her real relationship.

maybe people should actually get to know B, instead of befriending her for what she can do for them. If you took the time to actually get to know her. You would find that she is a lovely lady who has a mind of her own and a strong will. Neither of which makes her a diva etc. I have seen it to many times the way people latch onto people in sl who they think can get them places and then discard them when they are no use to them anymore.

Some will say the Blackliquid received what was coming to her for being such a haughty bitch all these years but even still, I can’t dismiss how Finesmith stabbed her in the back in a display of her true nature. In this case Blackliquid was the victim and Finesmith showed her true colors.

Finesmith is really greedy and dishonest to the core. She fired Blackliquid even when she owes her a lot of money. She made excuses for the percentages of her vendors that were supposed to go to Blackliquid. If she is going to get rid of Blackliquid then she needs to pay her the money she owes her and be done with it.

Xanadu and Finesmith have been close for a long time and I wouldn’t be surprised if the two of them planned this together.

Oh c’mon, blackliquid is one of the most ill-mannered and rude model on the grid. She expects everyone to shudder and look at her in awe whenever she shows up but in actual, the only awe she is is that of aweful. Never mind she has an ugly avatar and mediocre photoshop skills, or the fact that she has been buying full templates from marketplace and selling them as her own at high prices, that lousy attitude of hers is getting on the nerves of people around her. She is only nice when she needs people to hire her. Honestly, I’m not surprised she was fired.

Blackliquid may not be a perfect angel but Finesmith used her from the start. She was very gracious with her at first but talked bad about her behind her back. It was not so long ago when she was upset with her and refusing to pay that she called her a dirty fat ass so lovelymiwako and some other models.

She expressed her doubts about Blackliquid many times, all the while using her sim and resources until she no longer needed her.

It’s not fair to call Finesmith a diva, she may want to be one but she doesn’t have the skill for it. Blackliquid and everyone else around her has to constantly guide her.

I with you when you say that everything blackliquid touches isn’t necessarily gold, but I also hate to see someone used and thrown away in such a fashion. Finesmith talks about everyone behind their backs and it’s finally coming around to her.

The difference between Blackliquid and Finesmith is that with Blackliquid at least you know where you stand. If she doesn’t like you she’ll let you know. She doesn’t smile at you while talking out the side of her mouth. Finesmith knew that Blackliquid spends a lot of money in SL and for that she latched onto her like a vampire until she was all used up.

And when things heated up between Lovely and Black whose side do you think she took? Instead of standing beside the person that was trying to help her out she instead defended Lovely over and over. Some friend if you ask me.

I find it fascinating how so many of the models on sl follow around blackLiquid like Virtual Lemmings.Face it Finesmith is utter Rubbish It always has been it always will be.Just because blackLiquid likes it doesn’t mean it’s a work of art or a masterpiece,I do have to give her credit shes great at manipulating a group of fools into believing Finesmith is the next great thing since sliced bread .
blackLiquid has been attached to a few designers we have all raised a eyebrow to.Or did we forget about Unico Solo?Sorry Yula you don’t impress us much.

Perhaps Yula and Xanadu are not the same person but she and Xanadu also share some of the same language style and mistakes that you point out with Xanadu and Shym. Either way she and Xanadu have been friends for a long time, and you know what they say “birds of a feather flock together”. Yula uses a lot of templates to build with and often sells them without changing a thing. She also copies a lot of RL designers from etsy.com and deviantart.com. Remember that heart she did for Valentine’s Day? Copied right down to the chain from an artist on deviantart.com. Talented? She’s talented enough to buy full perm boots and resell them!

Yula has a ton of alts as well, just like Xanadu, and she tries to use them in all of the major contests such as miss and mister virtual world. Markski Glom is a she and many suspect it is her or an RL sister of hers and she used him to enter mister virtual world using a man to speak for her at the interview. Not that it should surprise anybody, fakes always enter these contests.

So you see a lot of similarities between her and Xanadu probably because they follow a pattern of content abuse and calling them “designers” is probably a bit too generous for them. And a diva attitude? Well I suppose you could say she is dominating Blackliquid Tokyoska, using her sim, her traffic, her skills and then she fires her!!! I guess you can call that diva.

I believe the alt thing about Xanadu, but I’m not so sure she and Yula Finesmith are the same person. For all of Yula’s flaws and divatude, she is way more talented and unique with the things she creates than Xanadu, who can’t come up with a thing not from a template to save her life. I’m convinced about Xanadu and Shym being the same person after seeing the notecard Xanadu sent out today. Same english style, same lame excuses.

Xanadu, Shym, Danae…these aren’t the only potential alts of this person. Xanadu has been closely paired with Yula Finesmith in the past. Alts or partners in crime? There are screenshots with proof that they have acted together before to do devious things. It’s highly possible that they are the same person acting in different capacities. I wouldn’t be surprised. An expression of fraudsters polluting Second Life.

Most people are aware that Xanadu Damiano is the alt of Shym Mosely, who was the owner of Shyms, a gown store, and scammed several people out of money and other things about a year ago or more when she dipped and left several tenants high and dry after her sim completely disappeared and so did she…never to be heard from again! Shym was Danae Ruby’s alt, who also tried several times to break into MVW. So really, Xanadu is an alt three times removed?

A designer and model that many of you may have heard of (who seems to be going for MVW and Miss Bliss though I don’t see any future for her in them now) has recently come to my attention for her unethical actions.

Xanadu Damiano of Xanadu fashions. She sells her “designs” in SL and on the marketplace. Coming across her marketplace today, I was disgusted. Her regular brand items are perfectly fine and dandy, but that wasn’t where she stopped. She is selling “EXCLUSIVE full perm templates” priced between $L8000-18000. At first glance, they are very good templates; however, upon further inspection of her marketplace listings and reviews, they are also being resold illegally.

Not only is she selling them at ridiculously higher prices than the original creators, she also shamelessly passes them off as her own works and “exclusives!” She would send private notecards to designers, offer them the item “exclusively,” then put them on marketplace afterwards. What a desperate act for money!

As far as I know, Vero Modero and Gizza may be victims of her scamming scheme as they seem to have bought “her” templates and probably still don’t know the truth behind them yet. With the ease to outsource templates since the introduction of mesh to SL, there may be many avatars unethically taking advantage of those less knowledgeable. So, please do be careful. Fortunately, it seems like a few Rendorosity creators will be filing reports against her. Now, all we can do is wait for LL to acknowledge them.

To the models out there, Xanadu is also holding some sort of competition for her brand. Who knows, it may be another scam of hers.

So Nave Fall in his power-hunger published a blacklist.And you are shocked? When has this idiot done anything except try to gain power by attacking others? This is so 1950’s McCarthiesm. Nave publishes a black list to be the one to decide which models and bloggers work and which do not. He will be god! No one will mess with him. He will be greater than Frolic ..as long as he keeps Frolic in his back pocket.

His rise to ‘fame’ has been on the backs of others, and his brown nose is firmly up Frolic’s ass which I am sure, Frolic doesn’t mind one bit.

Nave’s lust for power and credibility is a long standing show for those of you who know him.

He relentlessly attacks others, refuses to forgive their errors and humanity,mercilessly criticizes them, shouts OFF WITH THEIR HEADS, the epitomy of righteous indignation at such an affront, and now, when , in his delusional state, he channels McCarthy he thinks a simple I am so sorry novella still being the same smug jerk he has always been is sufficient.

Why are Nave’s sins, which are so many and so grave, brushed under the carpet when he, himself, refuses to show at least a modicum of sincere regret for his own, but says.. yea sorry moving on.

Nave should follow his own calls for righteousness that he has asked of others. LEAVE SL. STOP WRITING. HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME AND CRAWL AWAY.

Nave Fall is the only one allowed to sin or fail he thinks. The rest of us mere mortals ( in his mind) need to be perfect.
This charity has dissociated itself from Nave and his actions. NO KIDDING.Ya think?? He nearly ruined all the hard work that good honest people have put into RFL for years out here with his quest for power. SHAME SHAME SHAME.I would not be surprised of RFL never went near BOSL again.

And yet this is still not enough for Nave to fall in his mind. He has committed what amounts to an act of terrorism
against the good people of SL., breaking the FIRST AND GOLDEN RULE OF JOURNALISM…did not check his sources or his facts

He went out half cocked, giddy with the vision of everyone reading his little expose and ejaculating over the thought of how revered and feared and POWERFUL he will be now.

Nave Fall is a very small, very mean little man who sits at home all day and trolls the internet looking for places to spout off for hours. He truly loves the sound of his own voice and truly honestly believes he is doing us a favor by posting so much.

He is just trying to share his brilliance with us. He is that good.

Frolic needs to be aware of what is happening under HIS name and, in my humble opinion, fire both Nave Fall and Rusalka Callisto, the editor who should have nixed this from the go.

I pity poor Frolic for ever having trusted this jerk. Giving Nave Fall the keys to the kingdom he has lusted and sucked up for is tantamount to letting the devil out of hell. Funny how it didn’t take Nave long to find a charity to use to weld his powerful wand of hate and bitterness, attacking these people and using ‘righteousness’ as his cover.

“Frolic Mills would have you believe that the blacklist of bloggers names that was published is a type of freedom of expression, even if negative, and even cites the declaration of human rights. His recitation is, of course, limited to copying the text he knows to exist but clearly does not understand in terms of content.” If this isn’t the Black List of McCarthyism I sure as hell don’t know what is.

Shame on you Frolic. As a gay man who has experienced and fought for his rights, that you should say this is freedom of expression? Have you lost your mind? That is the same as saying gay bashing and bullying are freedom of expression. How funny to see your standards when the shoe is on the other foot.
Shame shame shame on you Frolic Mills. If you don’t have enough sense to feel shame then I shall feel it for you.

Same little ‘dick’tator with the same power hungry thirst using a good cause ( patriotism in McCarthy’s case, charity in Nave Fall’s) to try to gain fame and momentum by attempting to destroy others. The same way that McCarthy was brought down, people standing up and refusing to be bullied, is the same way that we need to stand up now.

Boycott Nave Fall, any of his groups, magazines,postings. Leave en mass. Now. You can bitch and moan here all you want but only YOU can stop him.
People will take notice. Those that are scared will follow the brave.

Make a new group.. StarWalkers 2012 and invite everyone from Nave’s group to your own. That is how Nave got his group did you know that?

He didn’t even have enough creativity to begin his own group! Instead ,as is his way, he rode the back of someone else.

Originally it was StarWalkers and he began StarWalkers 2010 and did exactly that. Now it is your turn.

If you truly believe that this is wrong and has to stop stand up and stop him.

Just in case I forget I wrote this for you. I will let you know what they reply. I do hope they dont write to the Lindens about it, silly me I should have thought that one through first. I am sorry

If someone uses the brandmark (dummies one) even in Second Life or other online communities, is that an infringment of copyright?
A member of Second Life one Mr Nave Fall has used it, and wants to know if he needs to withdraw it.
Many Thanks

Just to help you a little bit with the cover of your book, I have written to John Wiley & Sons who are the publishers of the Office for Dummies set of books., just to make sure you havent infringed any copyrights with your artwork. You probably havent, but I thought it would be nice to ask for you.

Zep or Nave or Mr baldy fat teacher or whatever you call yourself,
in your info you show a 2010 Model Survival Guide cover, and to be fair you said you were currently writing it…I guess in 2010.
On your main profile you write that its being writen and due our mid 2012 if I recall, and gosh with the help of the real pros too.
I wonder if it has taken so long as because you fail to deliver, or is it because nobody is really interested in what some fat old man has to write.

People pledging btw in good faith and not delivering is frankly none of your business.

COMMENT: Says you………………

People not fulfilling a promise in these cases doesnt matter, and as you have no idea of their rl financial situation or how much they may contribute to charity it makes your pathetic beahoiur even worse

COMMENT: Exactly what behavior are you referring to? BTW Ever hear of a spellchecker?

I wasnt asking for an aplolgy I was ridiculing your so called apology, which was long on words and big ones at that, but little of substance.

COMMENT: The apology wasn’t meant for you so we’re in good shape. Your pathetic attempts to ridicule me with bad grammar, convoluted logic and lack of a spellchecker speak for themselves.

I am….blaaaaaahhhh..

COMMENT: You said it not me.

ok..I am bad at typos, but was just reacting to Nave being a twonk and was being sarcastic….its not how you write or spell..hell you Americans spoilt our lovely English language….I am just helping to ruin it a bit more

COMMENT: We noticed, don’t belabor the obvious. You aren’t helping one bit btw

not wishing to be too sarcastic though its not spelled or typed correctly, it spelt or typed….I hate it when I correct someone and do the very same thing…its a habit and no doubt you are thumping your head on your desk now too…lol..just joking btw

COMMENT: I’ll be sarcastic enough for both of us. People like you are lawful prey for my nastiness. But do carry on with your blathering it goes well with my morning coffee.

f you wonder why you get alot of bittereness coming your way, just read how dismissive you are.

COMMENT: It’s true. I live with the burden of being dismissed. Thanks for your support. Maybe you should have said that upfront and we’d have saved a lot of back and forth.
Whilst you are in habit of apologising Nave, maybe you may wih to retract your racist comment in SL on chinese and asian people….You better do something swift too, because there is no excuse for being racist..and no apology will be enough…
Be warned !!
COMMENT: It’s true I’ve been avoiding this one for several days. It’s not worth a comment much less an apology or explanation. It has been abuse reported to Linden Labs and I’m sure they’ll be in touch with Anrol Anthony of Classic with Style to discuss her part in passing that notecard along..

Let him prove it wasnt him, if he can then no problem, he has nothing to worry about.

COMMENT: Ummmm errr uhhh. My jaw dropped in RL at this one. That’s not how it works where I live. I’m protected by the Constitution and The Bill of Rights. You see Sorry Sorry in America you’re innocent until proven guilty, unlike whatever backwater you live in. since you seem to think that’show it should be. I don’t have anything to worry about at all.

This isnt going to go away. I will not post about it anymore, but can assure you that I will pursue this until the truth is established….

COMMENT: I appreciate that. Go for it………………. I’m sure your detective skills are as good as your written ones. I hope you have a lot of free time.

I will let you know when I find out

COMMENT: Good luck with that one. I’m not holding my breath

Any form of racism is disgusting and all I am interested in is the truth
If indeed what you say is correct then the person who wrote it is in for a shock

COMMENT: You, finally, got one thing correct. High five………..

Anyway thats another thing and certainly not my field so wont type 15 pages of rubbish about what is or isnt slander

COMMENT: You still can’t apply the simplest of grammatical rules can you? I guess you’re just lazy or too distracted by having someone, FINALLY, pay a bit of attention to you. What a sad person you are.

so maybe a little nasty feeling coming his way is a little overdue,

COMMENT: I get it all the time from people mentally equipped much better then you to dish it out Sorry Sorry . In a battle of wits with me you are unarmed.

Well I dont think for one moment ridiculing myself could be taken as being racist so please dont even go down the PC route.

COMMENT: It wouldn’t be considered racist at all. Just a bit off ( as you Brits say ).

COMMENT: Good enough……………I’m not sorry. I wouldn’t want to hurt you one bit. You do such a good job of it on your own behalf. I will say that you bringing up the racist notecard was really, really, really, really, lame……………..

Well I dont think for one moment ridiculing myself could be taken as being racist so please dont even go down the PC route.
Its like saying someone speaks fractured English is racist…ooh I forgot Nave posted those words on this site…hmmmm
Not going to nit pick over the use of a word which is in a dictionary…thats so so so english

sorry,sorry – I am Engish and spelled is as correct as spelt – both are correct – my post was completely correct.. Get your dictionary out.
Whilst you are on about racism.. they way you speak of Americans is racist too.. look to yourself before casting stones.

one other thing..the best form of defense is attack, make yourself look like the hurt party, accuse the rest of the world of terrible slanders.
I have seen Nave accuse people of all sorts of things and the fool dismisses them as irrelevent, so maybe a little nasty feeling coming his way is a little overdue, . Indeed you see him as your equal, so maybe that makes me part of the great unwashed, the unworthy ones, well missy the worm has turned…and Nave everytime you post, you will be ridiculed.
This is your site, so you are fair game

I dont have to send anything to you, and certainly to send a nc with those comments in is as bad as sending racist slurs myself.
My understanding though is that it wasnt in a nc it was in an IM..and that is easier to prove or otherwise. This matter is with Lindens, and they will take action in the most appropriate way
Any form of racism is disgusting and all I am interested in is the truth
If indeed what you say is correct then the person who wrote it is in for a shock
ALL I am after is the truth.
Its a fantasy world so not sure the rules of slander apply, but I am not an internet lawyer, as Nave or Frolic Trump are pixels their real identities are not known, and thats how it should be, so not sure what happens there. Anyway thats another thing and certainly not my field so wont type 15 pages of rubbish about what is or isnt slander.

@ Sorry sorry – You don’t want to publish your proof here? Fine, send it to me privately, in world. Send it through an alt to keep yourself anonymous if you choose. But send me actual, real, proof, not just some copied over notecard with someone else’s author name on it. Because until you are willing to provide real, honest proof of such a hideous accusation, you should not be willing to go around spreading such a rumor to the public at large. This is not a matter of opinion, this is serious slander. Give me proof, give me links to these comments with IP addresses to compare to Nave’s, etc. If you are determined to “pursue the truth” and serve as the prosecution in this matter, then the burden of proof is on YOU.

Or perhaps you are the person who took the notecard someone else authored, wrote over it with horrible things, and then started sending it around in an attempt to discredit people you don’t like? And when that didn’t work, began trolling websites and forums like this one to try to spread the rumor again?

You could say that is defamatory or is just an opinion….I would argue its an opinion and a misguided one at that. Like I stated if it wasnt him he has noithing to worry about, if it was he should be losing some sleep. Not really sure how this effects you, and you arent the problem…he is…or if he isnt the idiot who typed the rubbish is….lets just hope for his sake it wasnt him.. I will let you know when I find out

Let him prove it wasnt him, if he can then no problem, he has nothing to worry about.
I will not publish here or anwhere what I have seen as it is pretty bad and to do so would make me just as guilty as him.

This isnt going to go away. I will not post about it anymore, but can assure you that I will pursue this until the truth is established….

@ Sorry sorry – This false and defamatory accusation has been proven untrue and is being perpetuated by someone who has used a written over notecard to attempt to malign Mr. Fall and several Second Life designers with whom they are displeased. Please show your proof of ANYWHERE that you can prove Mr. Fall or anyone being maligned in this way actually said, in person, any such remark to anyone. Otherwise, please get your fact straights and stop spreading such rumors and becoming part of the problem, instead of the solution, to hate speech.

Or perhaps you are the person who took the notecard someone else authored, wrote over it with horrible things, and then started sending it around in an attempt to discredit people you don’t like? And when that didn’t work, began trolling websites and forums like this one to try to spread the rumor again?

Whilst you are in habit of apologising Nave, maybe you may wih to retract your racist comment in SL on chinese and asian people….You better do something swift too, because there is no excuse for being racist..and no apology will be enough…

btw Nave, I dont dispute what you say about the generosity of people in sl and the kindness they have shown. Nor am I suggesting in any way that you were involved in this for anything but good reasons.
As for drama you can keep it, this is about your hollow apology. Sometimes just a few words is enough, not pages of explanation.
Something like I am sorry I made a mistake is enough.
Just dont dismiss people because they make the mistake of not agreeing with you.
I wish you no ill, and would not even suggest your views are irrelevant, for some reason you like to dimiss people. If you wonder why you get alot of bittereness coming your way, just read how dismissive you are.

not wishing to be too sarcastic though its not spelled or typed correctly, it spelt or typed….I hate it when I correct someone and do the very same thing…its a habit and no doubt you are thumping your head on your desk now too…lol..just joking btw🙂

ok..I am bad at typos, but was just reacting to Nave being a twonk and was being sarcastic….its not how you write or spell..hell you Americans spoilt our lovely English language….I am just helping to ruin it a bit more

People pledging btw in good faith and not delivering is frankly none of your business. I am sure every charity comes across that, but you dont see the patrons publicly chastising those people. They also tend to keep major donors private and not rank people on what they contribute….$10 from one individual is as important as a $100,000 from another…

People not fulfilling a promise in these cases doesnt matter, and as you have no idea of their rl financial situation or how much they may contribute to charity it makes your pathetic beahoiur even worse

I wasnt asking for an aplolgy I was ridiculing your so called apology, which was long on words and big ones at that, but little of substance.
Even the way you sign off posts is odd

here is what you Americans call 3rd gade English…and every penny went EXACTLyu where ..whats EXACTLyu mean?

A question…How do you know when Nave is lying and bullshitting..?
Answer..when he types or moves his lips

The thing with people who own blogs like this, and this one belongs to Nave Fullofit or his teenage boy loving Frolic Trump is they can write endless amounts of drivle, and think of themselves as moderately clever, when who really cares….its just nice watching girlyboy cry, it should be made into a sport….

Let’s be clear……………… I’m not apologizing to YOU or anyone who wasn’t involved in this catastrophe and my desire that people follow through on the things they agree to do, whatever that is, remains firmly in place.

If ridiculing me makes you happy, go for it. Your snarky comments are your opinion. You’re entitled to voice them. Ultimately they’re irrelevant in the scheme of things. If you enjoy creating more drama that’s a different story. It seems a lot of people revel in it. Welcome to SL and AgencyReport.

On a different note, there are folks out there protesting FFL/RFL’s credibility as a charity in SL,over my personal actions. That’s unfortunate. They are misguided at best. No one at RFL, FFL or the American Cancer Society approved what I wrote and . they’ve disavowed me as they should. FFL raised over well $20,000US in 10 days. and every penny went EXACTLyu where it was supposed to go. No none can dispute the generosity of people in SL based on what RFL raises.

One other thing. You said,

“..you forgot to complete this sentance..”

Am I mistaken? Are there grammatical and spelling mistakes in that SENTENCE? Maybe you should review your 4th grade English grammar class materials so people will have an easier time understanding your humor.

Guess who will not be getting a goodnight kiss from Frolic Trump then?
You may get a jolly good telling off, and he will clench his fists on his hip and stamp his foot at you and say in his most manly voice
“OOoh Nave you really have upsthet me so much…now where did I put my handbag..I so want to beat you on the head with it…..

I’ve returned from my weekend of RL adventure away from the internet and SL. I returned to a post-apocalyptic wasteland in SL. And it’s ENTIRELY my fault. (2)

I feel like Gaius Baltar on the TV series Battlestar Galactica who betrayed his people to the Cylons which led to his world being destroyed. Well maybe it’s not that bad. But I won’t pontificate here. I made a bad mistake posting with that post here on thebestofsl.com. A horrendous mistake. It was ENTIRELY MY MISTAKE though. (3)

Not:

Harper Beresford’s – She had NOTHING to do with my post. She didn’t approve it or see it until it I posted it and it blew up in her face. Harper handled a horrendously complex task and with aplomb, class, on time and under budget. No excuses and she never hit anyone although a few needed a smack. The American Cancer Society should put a plaque up with her name on it somewhere. Thank you Harper

Frolic Mills’ – He trusted me to write about the Best of SL. I wrote about the worst. I let him down badly. I’m appreciative of how he responded along the way and supported me. The opinions expressed were mine and not run by him for his censure or approval. Associated SL Press is separate from BOSL Magazine despite sharing the same website. Thank you Frolic.

Rusulka Callisto’s – The Editrix in Chief and with 10 years of RL experience she deserves to be. She bears no responsibility for anything I author. I don’t report to her and she had nothing to do with my post other then telling me that I had to do it myself. Great editor and manager. Thank you R

or

Quella Quan’s – Is young and loyal and busted her ass for FFL 2012. The best of SL is right here for sure. If I’d been around to defend myself I suspect she’d have been noticed less. Thank you Ella.

Let me say it again slowly. I APOLOGIZE (4) No one else deserves any of what rained down upon them. It’s interesting to me, in reading through that holocaust of derision, that few, if any, of the people pissing and moaning the loudest had anything to do with FFL 2012 in any form. There was blood in the water so they decided to join the fray. Not surprising in SL since it’s a free fire zone. For what it’s worth I’m not a photographer in SL and criticizing the picture I stuck in that post was a cheap shot. I like my style of writing and if you don’t skip anything with my name on it as the author please.

I also want to thank the myriad of people who gave so generously of their time, money, skills and contacts. First and foremost Zeebster Colasanti of Dream Seeker Estates and his astoundingly versatile staffers, Roe Woodford and Sarah staff for underwriting and entertainment. Spectacular job people. The builders, creators, designers, entertainers, DJs, show coordinators, models. photographers, graphics artists, typographers, financial gurus, scriptwriters, magazine publishers, TV/Radio personalities…………………the list is endless. Thank you all for everything you did.

Back to the apologizing. No one made me write that post the way I did. It was ALL me………… and I went the wrong way with it. I do that sometimes. I apologize (5) .I am supposed to be responsible and adult, given the trust placed in me. I acted like a snarky, spoiled child. I could make a lot of excuses here about why I did that but that would be adding insult to injury. I didn’t want to hear the excuses of the bloggers who didn’t fulfill the obligation they accepted and, in many cases, actively sought out. I apologize to the ones I named who’d posted and somehow I missed seeing that there was an FFL item buried in one of the posts they made (although one of my evil friends suggested that it is as easy for them to edit a blog as it is for me. I won’t be following up on this idea though).

The reasons given for not posting were myriad and in most cases valid. I’m not going to list them or discuss them, they’ve been raked to death already. My BIGGEST mistake was naming names and I regret that now. Too late to do anything about it. I’m moving on.

So for the last time here. I made a mistake. I APOLOGIZE (6) I wanted to show some people that there is potential retribution in store for not following through on what you’d promised to do, particularly with a charity event. There are consequences and this time being named in public for failing to keep your promise was that consequence. I should have contacted every one of you. I didn’t. You can bet I won’t make this particular kind of mistake ever again.

I’ve already contacted many of the bloggers I offended and discussed this entire affair with them and patched some of the fences. Some seem to be ignoring me. Imagine that. If you haven’t been contacted it’s because you weren’t on-line when I was today or you muted me. I’ll get to you and you’ll have a shot at telling me exactly what you think of me and my ethics, writing style and ancestry.

@Ghost You have absolutely the right to your opinion, something I firmly believe in no matter how much I may be hurt by or disgusted by the opinions and personal attacks of others. However, I do request that you get your facts straight.

I never, in fact, insisted that Nave Fall print anything and never would tell a writer they have to write or print anything. This piece was never my idea and I had no part in it’s creation, although I take full responsibility for it appearing in the form it originally did on TheBestofSL.com as the managing editor of the Associated SL Press section.

Nave told me about the idea for the article — his idea, based on a list he found at the FFL site and conversations he had with others regarding that list. He approached about his idea with the desire for me to find one of our writers to assign to write the piece. I advised him that the person who comes up with an idea is the best person to implement that idea and that our other writers were occupied at the time regardless. He wanted the article published, he just approached me about trying to find someone else besides himself to write it. Instead, he ended up publishing it himself after I did not assign it to another writer. Nave’s ‘whining’ about me in the original post was because of my refusal to assign his idea to another person to write, not because I forced him to write the piece or to write the piece in the way he decided to do so.

My involvement here was simply that I failed to truly think about the consequences and result of publishing such an article and thus did not discuss these with Nave. I was not even aware exactly what the piece would look like before it was already published, as Nave has full access and ability to publish his on work on the site without supervision. However, I do admit that he did tell me the general idea of the piece and I told him I was fine with the idea at the time. I was busy at the time and did not stop to think or ask additional questions or spend serious time in contempation of his idea. I now very much regret that as it was absoutely a failure on my part as an editor for the site.

I believe I truly should have asked to read the final piece before it was published, and should have thought clearly and long on what effect this piece would have on FFL, RFL, the ACS and the bloggers involved. Then I should have had a real discussion with Nave about those thoughts and what the consequences would be before publishing such a piece. Although, I admit, I would not have felt comfortable in simply censoring Nave by refusing to print his piece as he is my equal and my collegue, not my subordinate. Nave is his own person and also an editor of the Associated SL Press section at TheBestofSL.com.

As for Mr. Mills, he relies on the editors and writers to police themselves, publish themselves, and be responsible for their own content. He does not read every piece of content that is published, he certainly doesn’t have the time. He has already stated he regrets the publication of this piece, which was already live on the site before he was even aware of the specific nature and content of the post. I am frankly surprised at not being removed from the site entirely over this, and I can only surmise that Mr. Mills believes in second chances — unlike many of the commentors on this issue.

I most certainly admit that I failed in my duties as an editor of the Associated SL Press to fact-check and verify the information in the article before it was publishde — regardless of whether or not I felt I had the authority to remove the post or deny the publication of it to begin with. Which, I have stated, I feel would have been direct censorship of an equal, not something I do believe I would have been comfortable with. I have apologized in the best manner in which I could think to do without engaging in personal censorship toward anyone involved, although no words that I speak are good enough, it seems, to stop being attacked for an admittedly egregious error in judgement.

I am not a legal expert, and dont really come to sl worrying about who is who, and if people are spreading untruths. I am not sure if you besmearch the name of an individual in a fantasy world if that can be libel. If you dont like what someone says leave their sim or mute them, its like switching channels on TV really.

One individual stated that the owner of a site is ultimately responsible, in which case anything said in SL is the responsibility of the Linden corporation, or whoever owns it. I am pretty certain if that was the case SL would be closed quickly.

I am also not sure which juristriction all this comes under, as last time I looked I know the USA like to think of themselves as the mighty empire and the worlds policeman,but arent SL, its isnt a country. I am not sure if the person behind an avi talking about another avi can be comitting a crime. Of course there are exceptions like with child pornography or conspiring to commit serious crimes but not sure if calling an avi greedy or manuplative is anything more than name calling. I am no lawyer though, but am sure Nave Fall using one of his many wierd names in here will correct us all. As he also owns this site he will know who is posting what from where!
Can we at least talk about modeling please and stop all the legal clap trap because really its a big turn off

“In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may identify a protected individual or a protected group by race, gender, ethnicity, disability[3], nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity,[4] or other characteristic.[5] In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both. A website that uses hate speech is called a hate site. Most of these sites contain Internet forums and news briefs that emphasize a particular viewpoint. There has been debate over how freedom of speech applies to the Internet.”

Here you accuse Frolic and Rusalka of criminal activity: “The fact is that you are a stalker of Frolic and addicted to him. You are supporting criminal and an accomplice in the same vein as Susan Atkins, Dear Rusalka.”

How is this not libel?

libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement which claims to be fact, and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for “general damages” for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called “special damages”.

Frolic Mills is not blameless in a great many things, but in this case, his faults were but three. He was not monitoring what his renegade staff members were posting, and he should have acted more swiftly to take down that list. Thirdly, he should have gotten rid of the offending staff, the real hall of shame members Rusalka Calisto, the editor, and Nave Fall, the writer of the list. Apparently, Nave went to Rusalka with the idea but did not want to post it, and his publishing of the list was done on her directive. Among the greater public, Nave’s integrity is questionable at best, but Miss Calisto as the editor has made a complete ass of herself, of BOSL, of the Associated SL Press, and also of FFL. Not that Harper needed much help, as she had a similar list posed on FFL’s site. It is true – several of those bloggers who were placed in this hall of shame did indeed blog and the inept writer and editor would have known this if they’d spent more than a glance to check. Others were sick or had family obligations. Who in the hell has the right to dictate that someone’s RL obligations/health problems/life issues should come second to blogging some virtual clothing? The Diva and The Mouth are the authorities on this? They get to judge? Yes, it was a charity event, but even an SL charity event comes after most people’s real lives, if they have their priorities right. What little credibility Nave Fall had is now toast, and Rusalka was a joke to a lot of people already but now looks even more foolish due to her half-assed tongue-in-cheek apology-that-wasn’t. This is the third public incident in which she’s worn her self-righteous, narcissistic colors like a war flag. I hope they are both choking on the healthy dose of crow they’ve gotten over the past two days. Thanks to them, BOSL has succeeded in pissing off a very solid network of bloggers and community members. Nave Fall is angry? Who gives a rat’s ass? LOL.

I just want to know who the hell do these people think they are. Who gave them the right to criticize, harass and humiliate bloggers in the name of charity? RL comes first before a blog. You named and shamed people and most of them are not even correct since it has been proven that they blogged. Have some compassion and decency. Stop attacking a woman who is being treated of cancer just because she couldn’t blog. Stop attacking a male blogger who couldn’t blog female outfits that’s been sent to him. The best thing to do is to APOLOGIZE sincerely without all the BULLSHIT. They might not have been able to blog but you don’t know whether they contributed in other ways such as donation. SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. SHAME ON YOU BOSL. You are the real hall of shame.

Nave Fall, using the public domain of one Frolic Mills, publishes a blacklist with the purported names of bloggers/models who received products for the Relay For Life charity drive but never actually blogging them. After much criticism and damaged reputations it is revealed that the perhaps Nave was a bit hasty and his investigation into the matter was far from complete. The menopausal lady with the teenage pixels, Rusalka Callisto, has knelt in front of everyone and taken the blame from the shoulders of Frolic Mills in a public apology. The actual owner and, therefore, person responsible for all content on his domain, Frolic Mills, rather than apologize to the masses for the injustice his toadies have perpetrated, tries to justify the discriminatory acts with a publication of a human rights declaration where he falls woefully short in understanding its true meaning.

Kind and thoughtful readers of Agency Report, I am forced once again to speak with you about Frolic Mills. I need to tug on your ears a little, especially those of the organizers of RFL in SL, due to the alert concerning this shady cluster of pixels that has already been posted.

The ancient Romans published lists of people that were considered to be outlaws for which anyone could receive compensation from the state for killing them. Later, these lists were used to eliminate troublesome people for the powerful of the moment. The blacklisting of anti-Semitics were used by Nazis of Germany and are continued to be used by Neo-Nazis of today. If mathematics cannot be considered an opinion then this is further evidence of the fact that the BOSL group and their master continue to act as a kind of dictatorship over the fashion industry of SL, damaging reputations and trying to control what, where and how to you buy.

Frolic does not personally post on this forum but would rather have his toadies do it. However, he certainly reads and follows everything that is said.

Frolic Mills would have you believe that the blacklist of bloggers names that was published is a type of freedom of expression, even if negative, and even cites the declaration of human rights. His recitation is, of course, limited to copying the text he knows to exist but clearly does not understand in terms of content.

Of course, someone as him who makes his living exploiting others in SL would never even think to apologize for such a thing. Instead he lays blame for it at the feet of his toadies and seeks to divert attention away from himself and onto the readers by asking your opinion of the facts at hand. He even goes so far as to subtly suggest that the virtual world should contain its own laws and should be released from the laws of the real world. You state, “So apparently if you conform to the laws of your specific country, one is able to post a positive or negative comment just the same. But is it right, and does this thinking apply to the virtual world and online forums?”

Let me clarify a few things in your ignorance:

1. Real world laws still apply to the virtual world and the web, but it is and unfortunate truth that those who are victims of crimes in the virtual world sometimes have little choice but to let it go and it would seem that the virtual world is filling up with unscrupulous people as a result.

2. The place of jurisdiction for an offense on the internet is typically where the providers servers are located. In your case, since the provider is Godaddy, it would be the United States. For those who commit a crime while living outside of the United States, that criminal may refuse to be tried by a US court. In the case of very serious crimes an extradition may be sought assuming an extradition treaty exists.

You try to clear yourself of any wrongdoing by claiming “The only publishing I am directly responsible for is what is written in my magazine.” Let me assure you, Frolic, you are responsible for all content that is published on your domain. You are responsible for the people you employ (even if you do not pay them) just as every CEO is responsible for the actions of their employees and the reason why companies often pay punitive damages for the illegal actions of their employees. The provider may not be responsible for what is published, but YOU, as the owner of the domain, are responsible! It is your duty to control every word that is published there!

Due to slothfulness and the lust for money at whatever cost, you choose not verify the quality of your publications. Blocking the blacklist would not have been censorship as you would have everyone believe, but would have been the correct thing to do, especially in light of all the evidence that has been posted that Nave did a pretty piss-poor job in verifying his facts!

You are so fond of claiming that the mission of BOSL is to post only those things that are the best in SL. But It’s clear that there is half a sea, and in this case half an ocean, between saying and doing.

Debbiedoes it again. Loses just like she lost to Scamalertalicious time after time after time

I do agree that going back to your RL is a great idea, it may save some young innocent model’s dreams from being crushed between the Scylla and Charybdis of you and Anrol (gotta love a liberal arts education). I wonder how long it’ll take you to pop back in with some semi-moronic retort that still ignores reality?

I wondered how you’d deal with having your pretentious BS thrown back in your face, You came through in such a predictable way. You ignore the facts and attack me. How typical is that?

I can hear you saying to yourself (no one else is listening or cares btw), “How dare you try to confuse me with facts?”

bored of ping pong with you….
I will go back to rl…maybe you go read some surveys about a fantasy world..who cares…I know I dont
btw in the article…the queen was a pink troll and god those feathers….lol
byeeeeeee

It’s publicly available to anyone who needs it. The vastness of your ignorance is boundless to say nothing of your massive ego. You should have tried to confirm my facts before you ran your big mouth. Not that I think you check a lot of facts except those you create in your own mind.

Someone else in here accused me of being Nave Fall once upon a time. I said it then and I’ll repeat it now, you don’t have a clue who I am. We’ve never spoken in SL. Why would I chat with you? There’s nothing you and I have any reason to discuss nor do we have anything in common on any level. I doubt Nave spoke to you so don’t flatter yourself

FWIW you may be able to blow smoke up some people’s asses but not mine, I’m not one of the Classic With Style victims you prey upon yet claim to nurture. The likelihood of you being able to out debate me on the facts is somewhere between slim and none.

Just give it up and run to your lil friends and tell them how you’ve been insulted again. They’ll listen..

Nave honestly you are a funny one
You contact me in SL woffling on about god knows what, trying to get me to say something, and then discuss with your friends how you are going to come in here and get me arguing with you.
I knew when I posted this morning you would be in like a bullet, my sides are truly hurting I have such hiccups….
btw say hi to SD for me

A full sim costs roughly $300 US to rent ( depending on the deal you cut with the estate mgr). So we can compute a few rough guesses on revenues below. There are 23034 private estates at the last SL survey. Your mileage may vary.

I think with that kind of cash rolling through that a few people are earning RL salaries. Picking an arbitrary number of $50,000 as a RL wage is a bit pretentious but you can choose whatever numbers you like Debbie.

Isn’t it silly that Polemikos (Nave Fall perhaps) is calling out Debbiedoo and trying to defend Frolic Mills by saying Anrol Anthony is doing the same thing, so two wrongs make a right now?

It is also easy to understand why the Reporter portrayed Rusalka as a silly girl, even though she might actually have been a girl decades ago.

@ The Reporter, some of these people you are trying to help may need to hit rock bottom before they understand. Some unfortunately might never get it, these types are either the eternally miserable/clueless or those who leave a trail of disaster wherever they go.

Here you show, beyond a shadow of any doubt how checked out and clueless you are. A big estate owner in SL can make a LOT of money and run a big business that can provide dozens of people with RL incomes and those people NEED those jobs.

Now lets see…dozens of people you say…ok..lets assume 12 people each earning say $50,000 so thats $600,000 a year you will need just to pay for them….so turning that into lindens that ummmm lets assume 1$ is say 250 lindens…so to pay 600,000 annually thats 150 million lindens a year….soooo assume I rent a place at 15000 a month….that means to earn 150 million I would have to rent at least 833 units a month….and thats assuming my only cost is people….so lets assume my salary costs are 80% of my costs….so ummmm 833/.8 = ooooh nearly there thats 1041 units a month, and gosh I havent made a profit yet. Please before saying silly things do some maths….dozens of people…hmmm sure

I realized a while ago that you’d drunk gallons of Anrol Anthony’s Kool Aid but once again you insist on showing us how astoundingly checked out you are by saying:

1) The money grabbing aspects of SL I dislike and certainly dont like getting associated with it in anyway, but unfortunately people will be people and greed so find its way in here.

Good point. Anrol Anthony’s Classic With Style where you are COO is a great example of one of those greedy ones that found its way into SL.

2) Having said that, its also the same in RL. I dont rate any SIM owners here as business people at all. Sure they make a few lindens, but not enough to live off, and they usually spend alot of time telling their audience how good they are.

Here you show, beyond a shadow of any doubt how checked out and clueless you are. A big estate owner in SL can make a LOT of money and run a big business that can provide dozens of people with RL incomes and those people NEED those jobs.

3) Thats also part of the fun of SL as they are acting out their dream, its just a pity so many pay their own hard earned money to take part in this.

Again it comes back to where you, personally, work in SL.Your employer, Anrol Anthony’s Classic With Style, preys on people’s dreams and sells them vapor, if that. How sad that you refuse to accept that you are a big part of the problem and not any part of the solution.

Debbie you didn’t have to be there it was just a question on what would you do if sl ends,that he asked on his website.i don,t know about not making enough as to have as your real income,because some has told me this is how they make there real living. i figure those are the ones who are doing something right.There are people in here who are disable and Sl is a way for them to make some extra money.And we as there customers are doing that for
them.Photographer are some of the people ,if they prices is right can probably make a good extra income especially the good ones,like Skip Stahell(last name spell wrong strugs) and Graphic Dix just check out there flicker.Making a killing off of models.

Not sure about Frolic Mills words as I dont know him and wasnt there to hear them

All I can say is reporter is right in my opinion. SL is a part of your RL, its not a replacement to it, and it can be addictive, as you can live a dream that maybe you cant in RL. So when people say in RL they are shy and in SL can be something else, then that is a lovely thing.

The money grabbing aspects of SL I dislike and certainly dont like getting associated with it in anyway, but unfortunately people will be people and greed so find its way in here. Having said that, its also the same in RL. I dont rate any SIM owners here as business people at all. Sure they make a few lindens, but not enough to live off, and they usually spend alot of time telling their audience how good they are. Thats also part of the fun of SL as they are acting out their dream, its just a pity so many pay their own hard earned money to take part in this.

SL modeling for me is fun, nothing more and nothing less. When it ceases to be that then I will do something else. Its getting very close to that point as day in day out I see so much nonesense and although that is a shame, pffft life goes on, its not the end of the world.

I have had some silly arguments in here, defending things I dont believe in and making myself look stupid on the way. So maybe this forum is a good thing, as it makes you think and see yourself how others see you, and then you fix those things.

Maybe that is the reason I chose to use your comment out of the many that posted. You demonstrated my point and your own virtualization by the mere fact that you replied my words in less than 30 minutes. It certainly seems that SL is the priority in your life and you must follow it without missing a beat. You are entrenched and my very case in point.

I can now understood from your comment that you are very much like a little girl with your bedroom wall covered by posters of your favorite idol. You are in “love” with and obsessed with the idea of Frolic that you cannot see how he uses people by taking advantage of their dependencies through lies and deceit. Of course I appear the bad person to you but there are many more here that have seen first hand how he manipulates and uses people.

One of the most common difficulties associated with detecting the lies of others is the “ostrich effect”. You can’t see his deceit of others because you are not motivated to do so as with many other models. You don’t want to learn the truth because it will shatter your illusion and sully credentials as model since they are so closely tied to him. To remain ignorant of his lies is your choice, simply because it is to your advantage to do so.

Which model, if complimented by Frolic, would try to research whether his words are mendacious? it is not conducive to your self-esteem, especially if you are in SL as the alternative of RL and perhaps because the model will fear his revenge.

It is so trivial you to accuse me of stalking, but I understand your obsession with him and that it would be difficult for you to reply to things in which frolic is guilty

The fact is that you are a stalker of Frolic and addicted to him. You are supporting criminal and an accomplice in the same vein as Susan Atkins, Dear Rusalka.

Maybe that is the reason I chose to use your comment out of the many that posted. You demonstrated my point and your own virtualization by the mere fact that you replied my words in less than 30 minutes. It certainly seems that SL is the priority in your life and you must follow it without missing a beat. You are entrenched and my very case in point.

I can now understood from your comment that you are very much like a little girl with your bedroom wall covered by posters of your favorite idol. You are in “love” with and obsessed with the idea of Frolic that you cannot see how he uses people by taking advantage of their dependencies through lies and deceit.

Of course I appear the bad person to you but there are many more here that have seen first hand how he manipulates and uses people.

One of the most common difficulties associated with detecting the lies of others is the “ostrich effect”. You can’t see his deceit of others because you are not motivated to do so as with many other models. You don’t want to learn the truth because it will shatter your illusion and sully credentials as model since they are so closely tied to him. To remain ignorant of his lies is your choice, simply because it is to your advantage to do so.

Which model, if complimented by Frolic, would try to research whether his words are mendacious? it is not conducive to your self-esteem, especially if you are in SL as the alternative of RL and perhaps because the model will fear his revenge.

It is so trivial you to accuse me of stalking, but I understand your obsession with him and that it would be difficult for you to reply to things in which frolic is guilty

The fact is that you are a stalker of Frolic and addicted to him. You are supporting criminal and an accomplice in the same vein as Susan Atkins, Dear Rusalka.

“The real point of this is your never ending attempt as a bullshit slinging artist to make yourself appear as a profound and deep thinker to your throngs of mesmerized fans. You try to sprinkle enough words about topics you really know nothing about to make yourself out to be a wise sage so full of knowledge.”

were you describing yourself? It sure sounds like it.

I think, as you stated so succinctly, that you are:

“a little ‘confused on the matter?”

You give new meaning to the word pedagogue. I read this and almost threw up a little in my mouth but I contained the urge. Somehow.

I think you need a RL psychological intervention dude. Soon. Get help.

@TheReporter Wow. I am honestly shocked that you could take such an innocent topic with such lovely replies and twist it into such a crazed rant. You speak of psychological dependencies — it seems to me that you have a desperate psychological dependency on spending an insane amount of time criticizing and tearing down others in this ‘virtual world’ that you are declaring is basically a waste of time and a crutch for people who have no life. Also, what the hell is your obession with Mr. Frolic Mills and everything he says, does, eats, breathes or shits? I mean honestly, do you know you sound like a totally manic stalker? You are a Frolic Mills ADDICT — that is apparently your whole life and your own hugely addicted psychological dependency!

A few days ago Frolic posted in his group “The Best of…” the following question: “If Second Life Were to end today, what would you have gotten out of it?” I cannot answer the question as stated because it makes the basic assumption that the reader lives in SL. I must say that I have only a single life to live and I live it in RL.

Some close people know that I follow SL simply because I love to research the socio-psychological components of virtual environments. It has been and is being studied quite extensively for its socio and physiological implications. However, I have chosen to comment on the words of Frolic and his supporters here on Agency Report because I believe that models have the right to be informed concerning the behaviors of these agency owners.

Frolic has demonstrated once again his great ignorance, especially in the scientific field, when he said that “Every cycle in the universe has a beginning, a transformation, and an ending. This is true of Second Life as well as real life.” The point I will make is not due to that statement in particular but what it is evidence of.

First I should say that Frolic, you are so ignorant in the topics of which you speak despite your claimed, real life titles in business. You need to be careful when using such broad terms as “Every” and “universe”. When using such all inclusive terms as that you forget about such things as the laws of thermodynamics that describe no ending at all but rather a change from one state to another. Or smaller building blocks of matter which also do not end or transform at all but simply rearrange themselves never ending.

The real point of this is your never ending attempt as a bullshit slinging artist to make yourself appear as a profound and deep thinker to your throngs of mesmerized fans. You try to sprinkle enough words about topics you really know nothing about to make yourself out to be a wise sage so full of knowledge.

This cluster of pixels, called Frolic, then says, “I do not see Second Life as a different life, it is actually part of my real life, and Whether it closes or not, I would never change the value of this inexplicably wonderful ride.” You are contradictory. First you maintain that there is no second life. Then you indicate that your secondlife is part of your real one. It seem you are saying that there are two lives, a virtual and a real one, and that the virtual one is a part of but not the same as the real one. Are you a little ‘confused on the matter? Maybe you should be honest with yourself and say that you are here in SL because it is the source of your RL gain, without trying to sell the idea to others about some metaphysical nonsense that SL is just an RL experience and such bullshit.

Some people actually believe that they can live their entire life in SL, and they begin to delete their presence in the real world, progressively replacing reality with virtuality. With your well constructed words, full of wisdom and love (however, only in appearance) you convince those people to stay and spend as much time in SL as they can but only because you need them to earn your living here. You don’t care about them but watch as they drive themselves towards self-annihilation to the point that they see SL, and especially the modeling career, as a true job but without a true gain (especially since that you don’t pay most of your employees telling them that you offer visibility your magazine). You are using their time and their real life, for your personal gain so you would have them think that SL is the same of the RL, and it is s beautiful world full of friendship and love! You are an exploiter of their psychological weaknesses. You are not really friends with these people, you are their worst enemy because you’re ruining their real life, which cannot be lived behind a monitor.

Secondlife should never be a chapter of your real life, it should only be a moment of relaxation but not at the expense of real life.

Then there are comments following your post, that demonstrate the users of SL, for actual physical or psychological problems, believe they live in SL because they cannot in RL. I have chosen 2 comments of 2 models that work for Frolic.

One of the comments to his post is by Rusalka Callisto, and portrays a person that on one hand realizes that SL should be a leisure activity, but on the other feels that SL is a therapy for her shyness that causes her to isolate herself in real social situations. For her this is possible because SL is a safe environment. I do not know what Rusalka meant by “safe environment”, but perhaps it is due to the fact that she is hidden behind a monitor and avatar of her making and social contacts are less direct and more controllable. In real life it is almost never possible to completely rule out who or what we dislike, but just being able to live with that makes us “social animals”. The fact that in SL you have too much control over social relations makes this “virtual socialization” actually less social than the “real socialization” and therefore SL is not therapeutic at all… but can actually be construed as an enhancer of problematic social behaviors.

Another comment was that of Caohime Lionheart, that is in my opinion, very symptomatic of what has been said thus far. Caohime says “Like Rusalka, in real life I am frightfully shy, more often than not I prefer a book to a human. I know SL has given to me in the book which i am an active character in my story.” In Caohime there are two main aspects to underline, the first is the attempt to justify the cause of her social isolation (“i prefer a book to a human”) is due her shyness. Perhaps it is not actually shyness but that she might be afraid to feel judged by others. The second is the desire to be someone she feels she cannot be otherwise (she said “I am an active character in my story”) without a virtual world. Perhaps this is because she doesn’t accept the fact that it is not absolutely essential to “be someone important” to live and be happy.

Only Frolic believes that the importance of a person is commensurate with their success and he is “spreading” these beliefs to his adoring fans in order to keep them under his control. The most humble of scavengers is much more useful in our lives than this spammer of virtual life, called Frolic.

Of course he would never change this wild ride of his. Where else could he take advantage of the psychological dependencies of others? …for the addicts justify the addiction.

You’re brilliant and you’ve got me cold. I admit.it. No one close to me has ever suspected. Till now that is.AgencyReport has been a BOSL conspiracy from the very beginning and it’s one that succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.

I’m also Frolic’s alt and Jesika Contempomi CMO of AVENUE. So now you know that BOSL and AVENUE are ultimately the same organization. A very profitable one at that.

NOT!!!!!

This has amused me beyond belief. I love the sort of paranoid mind that can conceptualize and put into words a rumor as preposterous as suggesting that I’m AgencyReport Zepp

I will say though, AgencyReport has NEVER revealed, much less threatened to reveal, the name or IP address of anyone who has posted here. The integrity of AgencyReport is unassailable……… unlike some of the people who post on here.

For the paranoid crowd….I believe Nave Fall set up and moderates AR. I believe he is also a friend of Frolic Mills. So what if AR knows your IP address? It’s not like that can be linked to you SL avi in any way. If you’re anonymous and have a random email address, good luck linking a person here to there.

In general, we don’t have the faintest idea who is who, here, on AR. If the owners of AR are part of BOSL group, connected with Frolic Mills and they know our IP addresses?

Good😉 Actually, I’ve seen AR share with everybody not IP addresses, but they did tell publicly those who were the same person and posting anonymously with different “names” on a post related to one of Frolic Mills endeavors (don’t rememeber exactly which thread it was).

Now, I’m really glad that Frolic Mills name is mentioned so many times here. I’m glad because I want Frolic to be happy and all this is making him happy LMAO

There is a huge difference between being famous (or infamous) and to actually have quality. Let’s think RL. What are the most famous fashion magazines? Or famous websites celebrity related? We all know that everything “tabloid formatted” is a huge sales success. For some strange and wicked reason, every tabloid sells like hell and the same happens to celebrity gossip websites.

It’s at this level that Frolic Mills is. He is famous in SL alright! His name is known, of course. Question is: does this mean there is quality in his products, whatever they are? We all may question that. At least I do. For me, there is no quality in whatever Frolic does, for only one reason: his egotistic personality. And that’s pretty much it.

Thinking a little ahead. RL Fashion magazines that every RL model wants to be in: Harper’s Bazaar and Vogue (preferrably Italian). Let’s move this into SL.

Every SL model would love to be in the “Harper’s Bazaar” of SL and I can guarantee you that it’s not BOSL Magazine.

So, to wrap this up: SL does mimic RL. People whose names are “famous” in SL aren’t necessarily connected with quality. I’ve heard lots of advices from many SL models that say “you must get your name out there, do contests, go to MVW”. And I really smile. No, that’s not the way to get your names out there, if you’re a SL model.

The “secret” is actually be well connected, among designers, among SL Model Agencies. That takes time, lots of work, hours and hours online and (good) effort. Means you really have to keep improving. Keep up with RL trends. Be as multitasking as you can.

And guess what? All this should be done thinking carefully about quality, fashion wise. There are good SL model agencies; anything related to Frolic Mills has no quality in it. Do you want fame, parties , do you want to be called “hunnies” , then everything that has Frolic Mills’ hand on it is the thing for you.

This is really the difference, just as in RL: do you want the kind of “tabloid” attention or do you want to be in the “Harper’s Bazaar” of SL?

It’s really up to each of you to answer. Nobody said that to be a successful model in SL was easy. You can chose many ways to get there. If you seek quality, then go after it! No matter how long it takes.

[Wow and I wrote this without insulting anyone! Just plain and simple! Can some of you do this, too?]

@Mew
You have no idea what degrees I hold nor my areas of study so why would you be so presumptuous as to write them off in your ignorance? Ah, I know, it was a shallow attempt at wit and insults to make yourself, as you accused me, to “seem well-educated” in the defense of your mighty hero, Frolic and all typed, no doubt, with a smug look on your face. You must have felt so satisfied when you pressed the post button. However, your feeble attempt only serves to underscore all of the points against Frolic and his associates I have hitherto presented on this forum. You make no attempt at any logical argument in his or any of your defenses. You presume to “turn the tables” with failed wit in an attempt to try and belittle and humiliate me because you have no thoughts of your own nor the ability to argue logically.
Of course there are no anti-trust laws in SL, that’s the whole point, you twit!!! Without those laws as a means to govern business and protect the interests of everyone, we see the emergence of kind of monopolies that emerged from the industrial revolution. It’s actually quite fascinating to see history repeat itself on a much smaller scale within the wholly separate Virtual World. It also underscores the fact that humans are humans wherever you go and with the same tendencies observed throughout history. Our laws are what make us civilized. That you could casually cast them aside with a “get over it” shows that you and all of your kind are nothing more than the basest of individuals out for your own self-gratification. Those laws exist to protect us from the very likes of people like you. Thank heavens we have them in the real world or pompous worms such as yourself would run roughshod over the likes of everyone else. SL is an attempt to mirror the real world. You see it in everything the content creators develop and the citizens buy. It’s proof that without laws the rest of humanity would be oppressed into subservience by people like yourself. I’m sure you would love that!

You have no idea what degrees I hold nor my areas of study so why would you be so presumptuous as to write them off in your ignorance? Ah, I know, it was a shallow attempt at wit and insults to make yourself, as you accused me, to “seem well-educated” in the defense of your mighty hero, Frolic and all typed, no doubt, with a smug look on your face. You must have felt so satisfied when you pressed the post button. However, your feeble attempt only serves to underscore all of the points against Frolic and his associates I have hitherto presented on this forum. You make no attempt at any logical argument in his or any of your defenses. You presume to “turn the tables” with failed wit in an attempt to try and belittle and humiliate me because you have no thoughts of your own nor the ability to argue logically.

Of course there are no anti-trust laws in SL, that’s the whole point, you twit!!! Without those laws as a means to govern business and protect the interests of everyone, we see the emergence of kind of monopolies that emerged from the industrial revolution. It’s actually quite fascinating to see history repeat itself on a much smaller scale within the wholly separate Virtual World. It also underscores the fact that humans are humans wherever you go and with the same tendencies observed throughout history. Our laws are what make us civilized. That you could casually cast them aside with a “get over it” shows that you and all of your kind are nothing more than the basest of individuals out for your own self-gratification. Those laws exist to protect us from the very likes of people like you. Thank heavens we have them in the real world or pompous worms such as yourself would run roughshod over the likes of everyone else. SL is an attempt to mirror the real world. You see it in everything the content creators develop and the citizens buy. It’s proof that without laws the rest of humanity would be oppressed into subservience by people like yourself. I’m sure you would love that!

Can you see the slaughterhouse? The virtual world of fashion is not all roses, as they would have you believe. It is a pigsty full of pigs and sows, who call themselves CEO and wallow in the mud trying to cover themselves with shit with each other. Insults, lies, and threats are just a few of the unconventional weapons used by these people in their virtual business. All this happens because their greed for power, money, desire for control the which they have lost all sense of reality.

They have created factions in the virtual world of fashion, led by dictators, who appear strong but who, in reality, are intended to fall like autumn leaves from their wooden thrones. I do not know how long it will take, there will still be avatars that are victims of their injustice, but it mostly depends on you to put an end to it. The virtual fashion world must forsake the fake standards imposed only for the purposes of giving birth to academies and competitions that bring true profit to the pockets of a few select individuals and requiring the hard work and sacrifice from others who are holding out hope that they can be accepted into the little “gang” and someday have the blessing of the godfather to make a little money. The world cannot continue to exist as an oligarchy formed by a few people who think they are the BEST while all the others are the BEASTS, and arrogate to themselves the right to decide the best and worst, simply based on what they are “paid”.

I have already said that the powerful of this virtual business use their power to try to diminish, sometimes even in a criminal manner, all who are a possible threat to their virtual kingdom (the source of their income). This happened in the September 2011 “Best of SL magazine” of Frolic Mills, where he posed as a “film critic” for his intervention against Mr. Jason Spingarn-Koff, author of the documentary film Life 2.0 . I put the word “critic” in quotes, just for the fact that it was not, in fact, a “critique” but an attack by the powerful virtual business criminal, Frolic Mills against a real person, Jason Spingarn-Koff because the movie highlighted some issues related to the use of virtual worlds.

Perhaps posted to gain the sympathy of his friends at LL?

Posterity will judge!

Who is Jason Spingarn-Koff?

Unlike Frolic Mills, which is the name of an avatar who earns virtual money in Second Life, he is a real person with a respectful resume of all respect and with credentials, whose movie was critically acclaimed to nearly 5 stars by real film critics.

Mr. Jason Spingarn-Koff has a degree in journalism and is famous for his documentary films, for which he has received prestigious awards and critical appreciation of real publications (you know, the kind that are actually viewed and critiqued by professionals). In short, this is a respectable and educated person in his field, and who was and unknowing victim (because really, I’m sure he knows nothing about and could care less about a virtual publication that tries to pass itself off as something important), of an unjustifiable attack.

Frolic Mills argues that Mr. Jason Spingarn-Koff, is ignorant of the virtual world and a creator of drama, because Jason says that in SL there are people who tend to mask the truth and deceive others.

Such a reaction from Frolic? What are you hiding? Methinks thou doth protest too much (to paraphrase), Mr. Mills.

You think the Miss Virtual World contest is an example of transparency? You’re lucky that the virtual models do not blame you too much and that there is no governing body to inspect virtual competitions, because otherwise your contest would have ended long ago. The tangible evidence of the transparency of what you do, can certainly not be found in your self-declared “virtual success”, let alone the statements of some model or ass-kissing friend hoping to gain your attention.

Then, Frolic argues that Second Life would be a place where anyone can freely create. Really? Such benevolent words from someone who determines who gets to create and who is destroyed in the virtual fashion modelling world.

Frolic, you have not been neutral in the affair between Gizza and Vero Modero, True? In your eyes Vero Modero has fewer rights than your little sister Gizza to create?

There are numerous reasons why Second Life is no longer a place where you can express yourself freely, but one of them is you.

The limits of expression, for a designer or model or anyone else for that matter, unfortunately, are not simply their skill and imagination, but people like you who have self-conferred the power to decide what is good (those who pay you) and what is evil (those who do not pay you).

Your argument against Mr. Jason Spingarn-Koff begins that he described cases in his film of the overweight, the unfaithful in marriage and the drug addicts. Mr. Jason Spingarn-Koff described these examples within the virtual world because all of them lead to various levels of cyber-dependency.

Among other things, you yourself, posted in your group many months ago, several messages claiming to follow a salad diet to lose weight (btw you might want to know that these kinds of diets don’t work and are not healthy!).

Furthermore, the frequency of these situations in the virtual society may be even greater than previously suspected because these metaverses have been used, almost from the beginning, by psychologists to try to understand and address the real problems of real people.

Then you make a claim that those living inside the virtual world are the most creative and intelligent people in the world. What a preposterous and self aggrandizing statement. You honestly think the most intelligent and creative people of the world have time to waste in an unregulated, virtual world full of sociopathic criminals as yourself? Your narcissism is stifling for, no doubt, you place yourself in that company.

Frolic, for reasons that only you know, you believe that the success of a person is determined by his popularity and his earnings. Unfortunately, these are not the qualities that make a person a great CEO. If you researched a bit more, since you claim to have a masters of business in the real world, you would know that many famous CEOs have led their companies to ruin, or at least stagnation, because they were focused on their personal success rather than the success of their company. All of the great CEOs were humble and focused only on the company and not on their personal success.

Even if you make some real gain from the SL, which is still less than that of my plumber, I think you should limit yourself and your comments to virtual events and virtual characters of your virtual world. If you feel the need to write something against a real person, then use your real name and face him as a real person otherwise your magazine is just what it is, virtual paper for virtual avatars!

The delirious editorial note of Frolic concludes that Life 2.0, the documentary film by Jason Spingarn-Koff, is nothing but a soap opera, and that you will reply to the positive reviews it has received from real newspapers with a reply from the Best of SL magazine (as if your pretend magazine actually had any substance in the real world). You say that the documentary is bullshit because virtual worlds are flourishing and thriving. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the entire world has seen and acknowledged that virtual worlds are withering and dying, and the blame for that is a bit yours. Even LL is not so stupid as to say this, for which the company has been moving on to other areas and that is public information you would know if you took the time to poke your head out of your virtual world once in a while.

Don’t listen to Mew who’s obviously one of Frolic’s cult members. I’m enjoying Reporters posts because he/she is stating what most of us want to express about Frolic and his enterprise.

So many SL models act as if Frolic is SL’s answer to Versace reincarnated. Frolic can spew his so-called RL fashion world credentials all he wants but the fact remains that he’s sitting in front of his computer playing SL all day, every day! What exactly does that tell you? He’s a sad, washed up, attention-seeking, pathetic man in real life who comes into a virtual game and preys upon unsuspecting, self-conscious, confident-lacking, willing-to-please people who so desperately want to be something in some life even if it has to be a virtual life. Frolic makes people believe he has the one-way ticket for your dreams to come true.

However, one thing that I cannot take away from Frolic is his intelligence. He’s been intelligent enough to have completely hosed over a multitude of SL models, and designers, who think they need him to be someone. Ever notice that when a model, who is either part of his entourage or who happened to attend MVW Academy, wins a contest or competition that Frolic takes credit for it?

It’s all part of the bill of goods Frolic sells to you, ladies and gentlemen, and Frolic sells it better than the best-selling Girl Scout sells her Girl Scout cookies each Spring. And not only do so many of you buy it, but you’re eating it up too.

You are a pathetic creature. I’m not sure you are human. I’m sure you have a monstrous virtual penis to go with your atrophied virtual brain.

Your own public display of paraphilias merely tell us you can do a Google search for obscure, but lofty words to make yourself seem well-educated. We know you’re not. You are a tad amusing over my breakfast tea . If that was your intention you succeeded.

We’ll skip your rant about Social Darwinism that you posted like 3 times dude. WTF is your problem anyway? Were you shaking from withdrawl there?

There are no anti-trust laws in SL. Get over yourself. You are no lawyer, psychologist, journalist or comedian

I’m waiting for your proof and for you to show the chatlog where Frolic dissed the Goreans. You are a guilty pleasure but best taken in small doses.

As you know, I posted a comment about an editorial note of Frolic Mills appearing in the March issue of his virtual magazine “The Best of SL Magazine.” The virtual world of fashion is like a beautiful apple with a worm inside. If you remove the bug, you can save part of the apple, otherwise it will be destined to rot. That is what is happening here. Allow me to elaborate. I only know that, Frolic:

1) Occasionally sends “ironic” news to his groups with sexual innuendos
2) Has given interviews stating that when he joined into SL he had no money to buy a virtual penis
3) Shares public photos of his avatar scantily dressed and pointing, in vain, at the sexual nature of them

These public displays of “sexuality” could be a type of paraphilias, or sexual behaviors that circumvent the intended nature of sexuality (reproduction, partnering with another person). A characteristic feature of paraphilias is the intention to cause discomfort in others.

Personally, I feel a bit uncomfortable reading the news and interviews of Frolic, where he makes sexual references, because I believe that the expression of their sexuality is not public domain. It may be that these “sexual jokes” are simply a feature of his virtual character, however, I find it distasteful. A little ‘savoir-faire would be welcome by the owners of virtual fashion groups.

I will not discuss the matter any further because you could (and perhaps are) looking to support frolic with your accusations of victimization and whining in order to shift attention away from the fact that the virtual world of fashion is reviving Social Darwinism where the powerful and famous fashion lords are presiding over the weak and unknown. If anti-trust laws could be enforced in the virtual world as they are in the real world, each would be facing a myriad of lawsuits and fines. To deny the nature of these laws in the virtual world is to deny their worth in the real world and proves, without a doubt, your unscrupulous nature. These powerful do not owe their success to their several abilities but because of their power acquired, mechanisms of brainwashing, denial of reality in favor of the virtual, and inertia from LL that is not applying their own rules of the game (TOS) to these individuals.

@ Chalice your words, as usual are inspiring. My issues with Frolic, BOSL and MVW are separate from the discussions about his sexual orientation and the accusations made against him, regarding his interactions between other SL players, whether appropriate or not. I DO NOT like his business practices and the way in which he wields his authority. Overall, I think it’s hurtful, childish and has lowered the decency of SL modeling. I believe his influence can be unethical and biased.

That said, however, I do think the other has to be taken with a grain of salt (no disrespect to “Life.”). Here’s the thing…unless you have concrete proof, a police report and/or evidence of some lawsuit pending against this person, coming on here and making those claims is worse than anything Frolic has ever done. First, SL is a virtual community where 99% of people’s RL identity is unknown. I’m not sure how you would even know if a person is actually “underage” or not. Not everyone is “age verified” who actually over the age of 18. People on SL lie. They lie about their RL professions, “credentials,” RL names, RL ages, etc….Second, because of that it’s difficult to truly know with whom you may be interacting with. Third, when a person on SL divulges certain information to another it must be taken on in faith. Lastly, it’s assumed a person is adult enough or well supervised to make informed decisions about who they will and will not interact with. If Frolic “came on” sexually to anyone and they weren’t into it, then it’s on them to say something, move on or “mute” him. So unless actual victims want to come forth, give actual, verifiable names and proof of legal steps or actions taken against such behavior, then I personally want nothing to do with those comments and/or posts. You can’t get out there under a fake name, make allegations as severe as those hurled around AR and expect ANYONE to give any credence to that!

I’m not defending Frolic, but a moral standard of basic right and wrong. That’s just wrong now matter where you come from or what your background is.

SL just got very, very ugly. It has sunken to a new low with some serious allegations being made by god knows who.

I have no alliance with anyone in SL. I don’t have any friends and I don’t owe anybody anything. This however is nasty and whether you like or don’t like Frolic, everyone has free will about who they team up with.

We all have our idiosyncrasies’ that others may find abhorrent but coming on here and essentially calling him a pedophile and then publicly outing the sexual orientation and alleged behavior of the AVENUE heads is muckraking at its worst.

I innocently thought people entered SL to experience some of the things they may not have the opportunity to do in their real lives; however, I’m wrong. There are elements who seem to want to agitate situations and that leads me to wonder if they have any power and autonomy at all within their own lives outside of this game.

It’s so easy to put someone under the microscope and see nothing but flaws. Sometimes its a good idea to turn that around and look at yourself…and I mean an honest look.

Yes The Reporter’s explanation of a fictitious disorder fashioned on the DSM made me smile because it was witty. But underneath it all, it was just one opinion of one man who in my opinion has made some terrific contributions to modeling, fashion and yes, charity.

In putting my name to this thread, I’m not opposed to critiquing people or their business practices but this, nah, it’s ugly.

I want to paste an offline message I got today by some loser who uses this website –

[3:58] Polemikos: Just so you know – you’ve been outted as “Life” on AgencyReport
[3:58] Polemikos: Mother of a gay teenager – that was amusing
[3:59] Polemikos: you little vendetta against Frolic is not making you any points
[3:59] Polemikos: You should get some RL psychological help

Whoever lowlife sent me this, it is YOU who needs the psychological help. I don’t write anything on this crap. I read it yes, I don’t write it. I don’t have a personal vendette against Frolic or anyone else either. Anyways, these guys can prove who writes what on here. I just suggest you Get a ”Life”

I could name lots of names here but it is wrong to name the victims in this thread so all the Frolic supporters can attack them. AND YES, Under 20 counts. When Frolic was 30, these men aren’t even born yet. Pick a date that can actually legally drink. I know Frolic/Juan C well because I work for him.

“After the ill-conceived AVENUE PR campaign for the Alure sim not that long ago, I feel safe in thinking that “fly-bys” have occurred amidst the AVENUE family”

You probably feel safe thinking like that cause that’s how your head works – poor and limited. I have no idea who you are, but you seem rather young and immature.

We see what we want to see, and what you saw in the PR campaign for the Allure sim, made you want to be there, didn’t it? C’mon confess, how “alluring” was it, right? 😉 We’re supposed to be all adults here.

Hypocritical people are my favorite to put down, cause we don’t have to do a thing. You put yourself down, so easily!

You have to give it to Avenue. Nobody was indifferent to the Allure adult sim campaign. Nobody! Some loved it (my case), others hated it (seems to be your case), no middle term.

Huge success, wouldn’t you say? Everybody talked about it. Great PR work, left nodody indifferent. One more for Avenue.

But again, this whole talk is not about Avenue. It’s about Frolic who decided to do a pole in whatever website that was, asking people to chose 3 top models.

By the end, doing the maths, Frolic wrote a final comment with the 3 models that had more “kinda votes”.

Mimmi is in the top 3. Mimmi, the one who got dumped by her long term SL husband Salvo Waydelich.

Mimmi who has tried to be so active since Salvo left her, that her Flickr account actually hurts our eyes : bad quality photos, “Mimmi wears ” some designers names, Mimmi this, Mimmi that. Terrible. This is what Frolic does – he makes these women believe they are “stars”. The diva like attitude of Mimmi is disastrous. She is in her 50’s, should be mature enough to deal with rejection.

Unless “Frolic girls” are smart, like Miaa, they are frequently falling stars.

Now going back to Avenue, it’s with great pleasure that I have seen Anna Saphire, also doing a great job as Avenue Model at the Mesh Fair. Maybe one more smart model that knows where the best are? And she is also blogging some of Avenue’s Mesh Fair items! Smart girl!😉

Boys not yet in their 20’s such as 15 to 19 years old are teens to me. I know for a FACT that Frolic has or had men at that age range. As a mother, I do not want my young son dating or engaging in Virtual Sex with a 50+ yr old. What is gross is you defending and supporting this behavior. Go ahead and file your legal action when it is the truth. Maybe I can convince any of these young men to file legal action?

In the early days of the virtual world abnormal behaviors have been described in individuals belonging to virtual fashion group. At the head of the movement, a sort of shaman, Frolic, that for many years had promised to eradicate any type of disease and negative energy from the body, including premenstrual syndrome, hemorrhoids and obesity, using Peruvian, Venezuelan and Mexican “miracle” herbs in homeopathic treatments. Initially, the abnormal behavior, had been confused as a phenomenon of mass hysteria, but in reality it was a new virtual disorder and only recently discovered. Unfortunately, no autopsy of any affected persons are possible so that measurements of the skulls of those virtual avatars affected could be taken, but this criteria has been defined to facilitate in identifying those avatars that are suffering from “Frolic-like disorder”.

Diagnostic criteria
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The diagnosis can be made only if the avatar in question is related to one or more of the groups of the shaman Frolic Mills. If you do not belong to any of his groups you cannot develop this syndrome, but the risk increases considerably the longer an avatar is associated with one or more of his groups and also according to the role played within it.

Symptoms (they must be present for a significant period of time during the last month):

1. Accusing people who think differently of being jealous or envious
2. Belittling people who think differently than the shaman Frolic
3. Continual self-aggrandizement based on alleged virtual successes
4. Constantly requests the credentials of others in demonstrating of nothing
5. Evading the hard questions in order to deny any evidence presented
6. Denying and / or minimizing reality in favor of virtuality
7. Insulting people who think differently from shaman Frolic
8. Making unwelcome comments as a pretext to slander and / or damaging opponents
9. Asking friends or using alts to post negative comments against the opposition or positive in for the purpose of personal favor
10. Denying the truth not only to the others but also to themselves, in order to maintain a high self-esteem
11. Committing evil acts followed by good acts in an effort to try and cleanse the conscience or using good acts to justify the evil ones
12. Writing at least 3 times daily ridiculous news in their groups, in an attempt to control the minds of the others
13. Falsely accusing others of real crimes
14. Use words without a real knowledge of them

(Sometimes the disorder is associated with overweight and obesity, possibly due to the excessive sedentary hours spent in front of the computer)

There are currently no specific treatments for the “Frolic-like disorder”, although total regression from the syndrome has been observed in subjects who discontinued contact with the Shaman.

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As always, the comments of the followers of Frolic Mills are sterile, false, offensive and especially reticent, because they evade the hard questions. They want to ridicule my comments or those of others who think differently from Frolic for the simple fact that they want to distract the reader from the real issue: the existence of a fashion mafia within Second Life, where Frolic is trying to dictate to everyone and everything. Polemikos, in his own words, gave me the chance to prove that the best of sl group’s vision is inspired by social Darwinism, which is the root of many racist theories in the world. All this happens with the tacit consent and inertia of LL.

Just my opinion Says: I agree Polemikus – I Have Been In His group for over 4 years and I have not seen ounce Frolic ridicule anyone.

“Get your head out of your butt.🙂 and I say that in the nicest way possible.”

Sure thing Mew. You just showed your level of intelligence, the nicest way possible😉

And keep watching, see if Avenues cares about this 😉 If they do, believe me, it’s going to be done legally, fall upon your (empty) head and you won’t even see it coming! Silence is gold in legal matters😉

Don’t worry about any of the accusations that were made here about Rusch and Jesika.

I bet they are now working on a legal way to find out who Polemikos is (Agency Report keeps track of all our IP addresses) and ask the responsible person who made such accusations to give full evidence of he/she said.

Moreover, both ladies and the entire Avenue staff is way high above this. Just saying… watch out who you mess with.

I don’t know what lies you are spouting about but the only thing Agency Report linked together is when Frolic pretended to be a MVW student, contestant of MVW and other alts. Agency Report tagged all his posts as from MVW Organization. The proof is right there in the pages.

Frolic is notorious in seeking young men. Do you know the age of his current lover? If you don’t then STFU because you do not know crap and you are defending a disgusting person. And Frolic has accessed to the SL Teenage Sim. Nice hunting ground.

HEY come on Polemikos; your comments about Jesika and the muzzle go way too far. Please don’t speak about the ladies in this way – any of them, no matter which side, sexual preference, creed, colour or agency. You don’t need to do that to make your point or further this discussion, no one does. Please retain the class that I’ve seen you display so often in the past.

I’m not going to weigh in further on this thread because I wish my plea to stand alone.

There is nothing dramatic about accepting a mistake and moving on.
Do you know what’s dramatic?
Sitting here acting like a victim after being ridiculous. Everyone throws the “no drama” words around their profile or their posts. Look at where you are. What is not drama here?
When you post here, expect to get involved. If they did not want that, they could make their own article in their own blog.
Get your head out of your butt.🙂 and I say that in the nicest way possible.

After the ill-conceived AVENUE PR campaign for the Alure sim not that long ago, I feel safe in thinking that “fly-bys” have occurred amidst the AVENUE family

Jesika “Loose cannon” Contempomi’s reputation and temper precedes her like a dark storm cloud on the horizon. She needs a muzzle and a leash. She huffs and puffs and threatens people left and right. The way she dismisses anyone who she deems not worthy is hysterical.

Why is it okay to continuously attack Frolic with unsubstantiated charges of all sorts of things? Private things btw. And then why is it disgusting when the same sorts of allegations are made about others?

In some ways I feel a bit sorry for Frolic, whose hard-earned success makes him the target of all sorts of innuendo and ambiguity. It’s a good thing he’s as well-grounded in himself as he is.

With regard to the vast majority of modeling agency owners in SL, their communal reputation as far as promiscuity goes is not subject to much debate. To say nothing of the powertripping they engage in along the way. If something happens between 2 consenting adults in SL I say that’s their business. If those people choose to throw their relationship in everyone’s face they shouldn’t whine when it gets dragged through the mud.

Hmm i actually remember this incident. Some wacko lady from his academy accused frolic of sexually harrassing her. She then found out he was gay, so she “corrected” it by saying that he harrassed her husband lol, and THEN she made a million alts which agency report linked all together.

Like I said all boring lies…

About all the “lovers” you assign Frolic …They are all adults, so whatever hapenned between them, it’s only their problem!

“Let’s go back to the “other” agency run by RL partners Rusch Raymaker and Jesika Contempomi who are as out of their closet as Frolic is out of his. Is their lifestyle choice more acceptable to you? Do you think they’ve never done a flyby on a young female model? Get real”

Wow. That is stooping to an incredible low.
And actually, no. This reader – and I would venture to guess many others like me – does not believe that either have them have ever “done a flyby” on a young female model. Why, because they are gay? Because they own an agency and you assume most agency owners take sexual advantages of others? You get real. Seriously.

Don’t assume you know me. I have a gay teenage son and I’m very supportive of him and who he is. I’m a single mother who is surviving in the city and raising my son as best as I can. I don’t have a problem with him being gay. What I have a problem is old men praying on young boys like what Frolic does here. It is disgusting. Everyone knows it. Ask his boy lovers how old they are…Dahriel, Cade, Editorial, Ethan, Scott and the list goes on.

I don’t understand how designers support him and his disgusting behavior of luring and seducing young boys for a promise to his agency. Any young male models in SL know how Frolic acts.

Comment: Sounds like hearsay to me. You are not one of those young boy models are you Life? So you know he does this how? Oh I get it, someone told you he does that. So that makes it the truth huh? I suppose because you repeat it that lends it more validity huh? Let’s go back to the “other” agency run by RL partners Rusch Raymaker and Jesika Contempomi who are as out of their closet as Frolic is out of his. Is their lifestyle choice more acceptable to you? Do you think they’ve never done a flyby on a young female model? Get real

You go on to say:

I’m a mother of a teenage son and I would never let him come to Second Life.

Comment: I suppose you really think you can stop your son from seeing things like SL do you? These 13 year old kids are more tech savvy then you could be in 3 lifetimes. So get over yourself because you’re living in a dream world. He and his little friends are looking at sites on a daily basis that would make your hair curl up and fall out. I suppose you are tending to him 24X7 huh? When do you have time for your own SL adventures? I say go back to your idyllic suburban lifestyle, get your weekly manicure where you can dish about how your hubby is so boring, vote your Tea Party ticket, but don’t comment on lifestyle that are perfectly acceptable to many in SL that you, in the back of your mind, secretly wouldn’t mind trying out. Just mind your own business.

“Frolic posted several derogatory comments in his group to ridicule the community of Goreans. An action that is contrary to the TOS of Second Life (above the law?)”

If you saw that in the BOSL Readers Group’s open chat, did you file an abuse report with Linden Labs over it? I assume you kept a log of that chat session since you recall it so vividly, I can’t wait to read that.

I’ve got RL to tend to but I’ll be back with other questions later on.

I will say that being ridiculed and pilloried in public for getting cheap seems to have left a mark on Rusch Raymaker CEO of AVENUE. I’d bet her partner, Jesika Contempomi was frothing at the mouth over what’s been said in here. Dismissing my comments about AVENUE’s advertorial approach to their publishing policies was an interesting bit of slight of hand. If anything can be bought where is the journalistic integrity. Shades of Rupert Murdoch. The simple difference between AVENUE and BOSL is that you can buy anything at AVENUE but at BOSL all you can buy is an ad, the content production is separate form advertising. Pretty basic stuff

You are both so wrong it’s laughable.. I am no noob to modeling nor to SL (over 6 years 4 of which was spent modeling).. There are plenty of arguments to put forward, but I simply cannot be bothered.

I don’t sit reading this all day, but I was pointed here so I took a look and could not help but laugh. The modeling world has not changed – there are those that make a success of themselves and those that sit in here bitching about them.

I don’t think BOSL nor AVENUE should feel bad about any of this. After all if we diidn’t have them, what would we write about?

@Reporter: You need to update your loving relationship with Frolic, you keep making references of things that were discussed plenty 3 to 4 years ago. I just wonder how is it that you dislike him so much and yet you seem to know his every move. Stalker much?

Sometimes I get the feeling that if A and B stopped, the four of us posting here would die of boredom.

Avenue and BOSL keep the show running, so we can talk, talk and talk some more!

who said we aren’t no lifers? Course we are no lifers. what are you, then? No lifer, just like the bunch of us here.

Make no mistake, Frolic does read everything that’s posted here. Every little thing! You don’t know if he answers or not, cause we have no access to all the anonymous people commenting here and he and his group comment on this, get angry at all this, and cover it up with bad sarcasm. He loves being talked about! That’s his essence, looking at how he behaves in SL. A star – or so he thinks!

I was so expecting that “get a life” thing. LMAO. It’s the ultimate resource of those who have absolutely no arguments. Lack of intelligence, that’s how it’s called😉

Sit tight darling and hope not to fall asleep with your popcorn , yea? Cause when one of Avenue members talks, they talk only once.
So, if you’re expecting other then silence from Rusch or any of her staff – from now on – you may wait and wait and wait LMAO
She said it, she said it once. Done. What part of the “drama free” she mentions did you not understand😉

@ Free, oh how I love the neophyte. Yes, that means you. Free must be new to SL modeling because this post is absurd. Of course Frolic cares. You apparently have missed the notices and other caddy responses he’s disseminated when he’s highlighted as a huge jerk. LOL, classic Johnny come lately.

@ Rusch
Dear Avenue,
I’m disappointed. Playing the victim? I certainly gave you more credit than this. I’m not planning on writing huge paragraphs. My point is simple. You screwed up. It was wrong to expect profit from a charity event, it was wrong to ask FFL to change dates for your small, oh not so successful event.
What you can do is, next time think twice before asking for something. Therefore you’ll spare yourself the pointed fingers and giggles.
Much love.
Just an observer.

What a sad lot of no-lifers you lot are. Frolic doesn’t post here because he doesn’t care what people like you think of him.. and why should he? Just because you write stuff here behind anonymous names does not make one iota of it true.

Wake up – get a life.. close this site and find something constructive to do instead of trying to be destructive.

If you let SL get you so riled you find the need to propagate lies over a successful business man, then it’s time you found a 3rd life.

Hey Frolic, I’ll even script your next en masse notice around SL. You can dress up like The Dictator from Sascha Baron Cohen’s latest flick, produce a video and poke fun at everyone. Maybe even give everyone the A,B,Cs of Darwin and natural selection.

If this is real life, Frolic Mills would be a pariah and behind bars. I don’t understand how designers support him and his disgusting behavior of luring and seducing young boys for a promise to his agency. Any young male models in SL know how Frolic acts. Shame on you, Frolic. You are over 50 years old. I’m a mother of a teenage son and I would never let him come to Second Life.

@ The Reporter, you’re brilliant and I love to read your comments. It’s very sad what was done to Bouquet and the brand Vero Modero. I give Bouquet credit for hanging in there because a lesser person would have quit under such conditions. Bouquet was smart though and got out there right away with screen shots and proof, to bolster the defense against Gizza’s malicious accusations. Ironically, many models also came out publicly in defense of Vero and were totally and summarily “blacklisted” by Frolic. Very “business-like.” In the world Frolic would create, SL modeling would be a fascist state and himself the dictator. Is this what people want from their SL experience? You made excellent points that illustrated just that, when he went after the Gorean community.

I too was stunned and shocked by the references to Darwinism as Polemikos relates it to SL modeling. I guarantee that is NOT the world most would choose to work, associate and mingle in.

This was classic,

“That you say Frolic handles criticisms in an adult manner is bullshit, but a common aspect of several “adults” in the virtual world. Frolic’s weak point is his touchiness about criticisms against him and he is lying to himself about it to avoid lowering his self-esteem. The problem is that he wants to convince others of the same, brainwashing the virtual fashion community, controlling everything and everyone. This is unacceptable.”

I give it a few days before big baby, boo too Frolic is firing off numerous notices on all channels to the SL modeling world, with some snarky, sassy come back, tying to be witty and downplay this. Maybe he’ll even shed the Greek thing, entertain us and come on here under his own name.

It’s funny “Pole” mentioned something about getting under our skin, when in fact I’m amused by the entire exchange and believe it is he, who is all jacked up. Regardless, should be interesting😀

Your speech, in which you mention the dispute between Vero Modero and Gizza, brings up some interesting points. I conducted some investigation and from what I understand, the business of Vero Modero, especially with regards to the relationship with fashion groups and models, would be compromised or otherwise damaged by the actions of Gizza. I do not have the legal power to determine who is right and who is wrong in the matter but I can express my opinions. I believe that the accusations against Vero Modero are completely unfounded, but Gizza has achieved its purpose, which was to remove the models from Vero Modero. In short, the damage is done. The models are afraid to wear Vero Modero. It’s true that Gizza is a good customer of Frolic Mills (they call themselves brother and sister) and Gizza publicly requested of Frolic to remove the clothing of Vero Modero on grounds of copying.

Models, do not buy what they are afraid to wear and especially if said clothing has not received the blessing of Frolic Mills. In truth Modero not only finds itself the victim of an injustice, but in also having to prove his innocence which seems to be insufficient to remedy the harm already suffered. Paradoxical, but quite possible in a virtual world where the models’ clothes sell but only as those approved by Frolic Mills.

@ Polemikos (1)

Polemikos your pattern is typical of all BOSL followers, which includes, among other aspects, to accuse others of being envious or jealous… all the time trying to place doubt over the conduct of the speaker but you never actually engage in any intellectual form of debate. Yours is a bullying tactic used in an attempt to ridicule any opponents rather than trying to enlighten us as to the merits of your chosen side. It is the business strategy chosen by Frolic Mills and his followers, aggressive and defamatory against those who think differently and, apparently, very effective in Secondlife. Frolic Mills is a Machiavellian, in the worst sense of the term, as its business purpose justifies any unfairness towards other people. Defending themselves against abuse and injustice is already difficult in the real world, but even more difficult in the lawless and soulless virtual world, where most often people decide to simply let it go.

As I already mentioned, the adepts of BOSL often accuse others of jealousy and envy, using the two terms in ignorance without knowledge or care of the facts. A world where no one would cast any doubt, nor advancing criticisms, whether right or wrong, would create a stagnant human life bereft of progress in any field. Anna Sapphire, Miss virtual world in office, said in an interview that every year there are envious and jealous people very critical of the winner so the organization psychologically prepares them for this. All this is simply called “brainwashing” or “manipulation of the minds of others” and it is absolutely wrong. However, I consider Anna Sapphire, adequate for the role of Miss Virtual World (or Miss Bosl) because she has all of the necessary credentials to be an adept of Frolic, including being false. She made recent public statements where she claims to have met the Frolic for the first time on the final day of Miss virtual world, apparently forgetting how frolic mills performed her SL wedding ceremony with great pomp or that she was a blogger for him for a year.

These doubts are not synonymous with envy and jealousy, but they are legitimate because Frolic Mills is a real business using Secondlife. I would like to see the rules regarding the conduct of business within Second Life, become more severe and related to those of real business, because the L $ can be converted to real money and should be subject to the same business principles and laws of the real world.

Polemikos, I really think that you are consulting the abridged dictionaries of the Frolic, because you’re really taking whistles for flasks, especially regarding the term pro-bono, which means simply “for the public good” that provides a service or professional benefit, such as legal matters, without requiring a fee to a person or group of persons because they can not afford the cost. It isn’t the first time that you have used a term incorrectly in your attempt to sound educated to these readers. Offering a free course to become the virtual model has nothing to do with pro-bono. You are confusing educational courses with public services. It’s called philanthropy to provide a non-primary necessity, but of absolute frivolity, such as a course for Models.

The fact that Frolic and his group take part in charitable collections would be very commendable if it were not so apparent that they are driven by his desire to simply display a charitable side for appearance sake, to promote himself and enrich his curriculum with something good. A true philanthropist gives regardless of any publicity but Frolic never misses an occasion to mention his, so-called, “charitable acts” in the case of any criticism direct against him. Honestly, I do not care to donate a single linden to RFL, precisely due to the presence of Frolic Mills and the way he uses the charity to give light to his, otherwise, dark curriculum and
devastate any competition or persons he doesn’t like.

To wit, last year, Frolic posted several derogatory comments in his group to ridicule the community of Goreans. An action that is contrary to the TOS of Second Life (above the law?) The Goreans are a community that are very active and strong as a group in gathering for RFL. Is that to say that his efforts have any more meaning than theirs?

For my place, I am an independent commentator and free from any constraint, but with a good eye for the virtual world of fashion. However, I think Polemikos, adept of BOSL, wants to take the opportunity (I’m not sure why) to spit venom at Avenue, perhaps because Frolic has not digested the presence of the unloyal “Miaa Rebane” (ex miss virtual world) as a new stylist for their magazine?

@ Polemikos (2)

Polemikos, whether you’re Frolic Mills or not is not my interest. Did I ask you to explain it? Why do you feel compelled to excuse yourself Where no one asked you a thing? You are perfectly free to admire Frolic and wallpaper your room with posters of his avatar if you wish.

I do not evaluate a businessman by the power of his success but by other criteria, such as competence, honesty and professionalism. There is much to discuss concerning the alleged success of the virtual Frolic Mills mostly because he seems rather self-indulgent. Perhaps, after having claimed his studies in business, he should aspire to something other than a virtual success, in terms of earnings.

I will not waste words on your veiled insults, as it is one of several features in the bosl-frolic pattern, insulting where you can’t argue in a sensible manner.

That you say Frolic handles criticisms in an adult manner is bullshit, but a common aspect of several “adults” in the virtual world. Frolic’s weak point is his touchiness about criticisms against him and he is
lying to himself about it to avoid lowering his self-esteem. The problem is that he wants to convince others of the same, brainwashing the virtual fashion community, controlling everything and everyone. This is unacceptable.

I’m not psychoanalyzing anyone, but simply expressing my opinion. You are completely intolerant of all things against your ideas but you are hiding behind your insults because you don’t have an original thought of your own, only the blind allegiance to your hero and his ideas.

Frolic has the presumption to publish that which is best in SL. Very well. And what is his selection criteria? Expertise in design? No! There are two criteria friendship with some of the designers and the money of other
designers. The more appropriate name for his magazine could be the The Best of SL for Frolic Mills (whether you are friend or you pay him).

Polemikos, the models are targeted towards associating with specific designers and subliminally intimidated into dissociating themselves from other designers. You are contradictory in your words. First because you say that the models are not encouraged to associate with anyone, but then you assert the existence of specific designers that support the organization by offering gifts to the models for marketing purposes. And who allows these designers to have access to these models and send them gifts?

I repeat, that Frolic Mills feels entitled to everything and more, for the simple fact that LL ignores the misbehavior of a client who owns a
few dozen islands.

The magazine that Frolic frolic publishes is low level, in terms of graphics and content. Moreover, he pays almost nothing or to his employees, so I suppose you shouldn’t expect better quality. His employees are supposed to feel honored to work for him.

Frolic has refused to pay photographers for their work, saying it gave them visibility in a “popular” magazine and that they should agree to take pictures for him pro-bono (you like that word, I know!) in exchange for the visibility of having their names in his “virtual magazine”.

Frolemikos and the Virtual Darwinism
Racism, thanks to the supporters of BOSL, such as Polemikos, is now also virtual.

Polemikos, can you enlighten me on your Darwinian view as you have applied to the virtual society? I do not know if you are aware that the application of Darwinian principles to society was made by the English capitalist Spencer, in the nineteenth century, but I must tell you that this term was then used to empower the widening racial theories. In other words, natural selection of Darwin, was used to justify colonialism or any other form of social exploitation, reflecting the idea of the strong and rich that has prevailed over the weak and poor. Social Darwinism is Unfortunate material for history books. Your ignorance is so great that you did not even realize you’re promoting virtual racism.

Do you realize the seriousness of your statements? What you said bears an enormous gravity, even though dictated by your abysmal ignorance. Using the term inappropriately and in a few words you said that the economic structure of SL is Darwinian, where the powerful over the weak win. Thats called Virtual racism!

It appears that within SL is forming a racist division, headed by Frolic Mills and his followers and that LL does nothing to stop it. It is simply outrageous. Frolic Mills must be very proud of you!

@ Rausch very thoughtful and measured words. I applaud you and your staff for all the hard work you do. You’re organization is a class act and has that reputation in spades! It’s no secret models would prefer to train and work with Avenue, than with BOSL, MVW and Frolic. I have no doubt many designers, photographers and models read AR and are becoming more and more aware of the hijinks of Frolic and his crew. Just the mere fact this discussion somehow was turned around and USED as a forum to attack and malign AVENUE speaks volumes about who was ultimately behind this. I’m amused “Pole” used the term “jealousy” in an earlier post, because that seems to be what motivates his/her comments, “pure and simple.” I might also add, on the off chance Polemikos is not Frolic, but a friend or supporter, you have done Fro a real disservice by taking off after AVENUE. You put the focus of that erroneous assault squarely back on Frolic. Good work smarty pants. I agree with Business Minded in that the designers who overtly and with bias align themselves with him, should be avoided. While on the other hand there are many designers who work with all or most SL periodicals and should be supported. They aren’t to blame for this and ultimately Frolic will screw himself. People know and they’re completely fed up. I think “Pole” sums up the overall cold, callus, unfriendly and cut throat attitude of Frolic, BOSL and MVW. Members have enough of that crap in their RL and do not come to SL to be treated and regarded the same way. Frolic and his bunch have become the “mean girls” of SL modeling and it’s so base and childish. He can come on here or send his minions to try and belittle us, marginalize our opinions and attempt to reduce us down to a rowdy bunch of puss faces who will eventually “die off” because we aren’t “relevant.” The fact remains he’s no longer “relevant!” His favorite word by the way, despite the fact “English is his 2nd language.” So we’re to believe the man who owns and operates BOSL, MVW and loves the sound of his own voice wouldn’t write as well here as he does everywhere else? Yeah whatever Polemikos/Frolic, nice try. Your days “at the top” are numbered. Oh wait, it’s pretty much only you who thinks that you are. There’s loads of distention in your own ranks and you aren’t even aware of it. Pull up a chair SL modeling world and watch the fireworks and fun to come. You might want to grab some popcorn too, because this show is going to be hilarious!

Your speech, in which you mention the dispute between Vero Modero and Gizza, brings up some interesting points. I conducted some investigation and from what I understand, the business of Vero Modero, especially with regards to the relationship with fashion groups and models, would be compromised or otherwise damaged by the actions of Gizza. I do not have the legal power to determine who is right and who is wrong in the matter but I can express my opinions. I believe that the accusations against Vero Modero are completely unfounded, but Gizza has achieved its purpose, which was to remove the models from Vero Modero. In short, the damage is done. The models are afraid to wear Vero Modero. It’s true that Gizza is a good customer of Frolic Mills (they call themselves brother and sister) and Gizza publicly requested of Frolic to remove the clothing of Vero Modero on grounds of copying.

Models, do not buy what they are afraid to wear and especially if said clothing has not received the blessing of Frolic Mills. In truth Modero not only finds itself the victim of an injustice, but in also having to prove his innocence which seems to be insufficient to remedy the harm already suffered. Paradoxical, but quite possible in a virtual world where the models’ clothes sell but only as those approved by Frolic Mills.

@ Polemikos (1)

Polemikos your pattern is typical of all BOSL followers, which includes, among other aspects, to accuse others of being envious or jealous… all the time trying to place doubt over the conduct of the speaker but you never actually engage in any intellectual form of debate. Yours is a bullying tactic used in an attempt to ridicule any opponents rather than trying to enlighten us as to the merits of your chosen side. It is the business strategy chosen by Frolic Mills and his followers, aggressive and defamatory against those who think differently and, apparently, very effective in Secondlife. Frolic Mills is a Machiavellian, in the worst sense of the term, as its business purpose justifies any unfairness towards other people. Defending themselves against abuse and injustice is already difficult in the real world, but even more difficult in the lawless and soulless virtual world, where most often people decide to simply let it go.

As I already mentioned, the adepts of BOSL often accuse others of jealousy and envy, using the two terms in ignorance without knowledge or care of the facts. A world where no one would cast any doubt, nor advancing criticisms, whether right or wrong, would create a stagnant human life bereft of progress in any field. Anna Sapphire, Miss virtual world in office, said in an interview that every year there are envious and jealous people very critical of the winner so the organization psychologically prepares them for this. All this is simply called “brainwashing” or “manipulation of the minds of others” and it is absolutely wrong. However, I consider Anna Sapphire, adequate for the role of Miss Virtual World (or Miss Bosl) because she has all of the necessary credentials to be an adept of Frolic, including being false. She made recent public statements where she claims to have met the Frolic for the first time on the final day of Miss virtual world, apparently forgetting how frolic mills performed her SL wedding ceremony with great pomp or that she was a blogger for him for a year.

These doubts are not synonymous with envy and jealousy, but they are legitimate because Frolic Mills is a real business using Secondlife. I would like to see the rules regarding the conduct of business within Second Life, become more severe and related to those of real business, because the L $ can be converted to real money and should be subject to the same business principles and laws of the real world.

Polemikos, I really think that you are consulting the abridged dictionaries of the Frolic, because you’re really taking whistles for flasks, especially regarding the term pro-bono, which means simply “for the public good” that provides a service or professional benefit, such as legal matters, without requiring a fee to a person or group of persons because they can not afford the cost. It isn’t the first time that you have used a term incorrectly in your attempt to sound educated to these readers. Offering a free course to become the virtual model has nothing to do with pro-bono. You are confusing educational courses with public services. It’s called philanthropy to provide a non-primary necessity, but of absolute frivolity, such as a course for Models.

The fact that Frolic and his group take part in charitable collections would be very commendable if it were not so apparent that they are driven by his desire to simply display a charitable side for appearance sake, to promote himself and enrich his curriculum with something good. A true philanthropist gives regardless of any publicity but Frolic never misses an occasion to mention his, so-called, “charitable acts” in the case of any criticism direct against him. Honestly, I do not care to donate a single linden to RFL, precisely due to the presence of Frolic Mills and the way he uses the charity to give light to his, otherwise, dark curriculum and
devastate any competition or persons he doesn’t like.

To wit, last year, Frolic posted several derogatory comments in his group to ridicule the community of Goreans. An action that is contrary to the TOS of Second Life (above the law?) The Goreans are a community that are very active and strong as a group in gathering for RFL. Is that to say that his efforts have any more meaning than theirs?

For my place, I am an independent commentator and free from any constraint, but with a good eye for the virtual world of fashion. However, I think Polemikos, adept of BOSL, wants to take the opportunity (I’m not sure why) to spit venom at Avenue, perhaps because Frolic has not digested the presence of the unloyal “Miaa Rebane” (ex miss virtual world) as a new stylist for their magazine?

@ Polemikos (2)

Polemikos, whether you’re Frolic Mills or not is not my interest. Did I ask you to explain it? Why do you feel compelled to excuse yourself Where no one asked you a thing? You are perfectly free to admire Frolic and wallpaper your room with posters of his avatar if you wish.

I do not evaluate a businessman by the power of his success but by other criteria, such as competence, honesty and professionalism. There is much to discuss concerning the alleged success of the virtual Frolic Mills mostly because he seems rather self-indulgent. Perhaps, after having claimed his studies in business, he should aspire to something other than a virtual success, in terms of earnings.

I will not waste words on your veiled insults, as it is one of several features in the bosl-frolic pattern, insulting where you can’t argue in a sensible manner.

That you say Frolic handles criticisms in an adult manner is bullshit, but a common aspect of several “adults” in the virtual world. Frolic’s weak point is his touchiness about criticisms against him and he is
lying to himself about it to avoid lowering his self-esteem. The problem is that he wants to convince others of the same, brainwashing the virtual fashion community, controlling everything and everyone. This is unacceptable.

I’m not psychoanalyzing anyone, but simply expressing my opinion. You are completely intolerant of all things against your ideas but you are hiding behind your insults because you don’t have an original thought of your own, only the blind allegiance to your hero and his ideas.

Frolic has the presumption to publish that which is best in SL. Very well. And what is his selection criteria? Expertise in design? No! There are two criteria friendship with some of the designers and the money of other
designers. The more appropriate name for his magazine could be the The Best of SL for Frolic Mills (whether you are friend or you pay him).

Polemikos, the models are targeted towards associating with specific designers and subliminally intimidated into dissociating themselves from other designers. You are contradictory in your words. First because you say that the models are not encouraged to associate with anyone, but then you assert the existence of specific designers that support the organization by offering gifts to the models for marketing purposes. And who allows these designers to have access to these models and send them gifts?

I repeat, that Frolic Mills feels entitled to everything and more, for the simple fact that LL ignores the misbehavior of a client who owns a
few dozen islands.

The magazine that Frolic frolic publishes is low level, in terms of graphics and content. Moreover, he pays almost nothing or to his employees, so I suppose you shouldn’t expect better quality. His employees are supposed to feel honored to work for him.

Frolic has refused to pay photographers for their work, saying it gave them visibility in a “popular” magazine and that they should agree to take pictures for him pro-bono (you like that word, I know!) in exchange for the visibility of having their names in his “virtual magazine”.

Racism, thanks to the supporters of BOSL, such as Polemikos, is now also virtual.

Polemikos, can you enlighten me on your Darwinian view as you have applied to the virtual society? I do not know if you are aware that the application of Darwinian principles to society was made by the English capitalist Spencer, in the nineteenth century, but I must tell you that this term was then used to empower the widening racial theories. In other words, natural selection of Darwin, was used to justify colonialism or any other form of social exploitation, reflecting the idea of the strong and rich that has prevailed over the weak and poor. Social Darwinism is Unfortunate material for history books. Your ignorance is so great that you did not even realize you’re promoting virtual racism.

Do you realize the seriousness of your statements? What you said bears an enormous gravity, even though dictated by your abysmal ignorance. Using the term inappropriately and in a few words you said that the economic structure of SL is Darwinian, where the powerful over the weak win. Thats called Virtual racism!

It appears that within SL is forming a racist division, headed by Frolic Mills and his followers and that LL does nothing to stop it. It is simply outrageous.

It saddens me to read the post by Polemikos the first thing I sat at my computer today.

I think of those that have to give of their time, talent and efforts to better our Second Life…and this is the gratitude that is expressed against them? This is why I must stand up against these untruths.

Since 2009, AVENUE’s Relay for Life Team, AVENUE of Life, has organised with the help of staff volunteers and members of the public, to organise and coordinate our own host of activities and programmes to support this worthy cause each year. As far as I know, AVENUE had always been one of the top teams with our efforts. But it was never about competing to be the best as I valued the camaraderie of all those that volunteered their time.

On our own accord, I have also personally initiated a Tribute to Alexander McQueen following the announcement of his death that day where we raised funds with 40 designers to contribute 100% of sales proceeds to a befitting charity that he might have patronised – Keep a Child Alive, which resonated with his own causes. My thoughts were, why couldn’t we, keep this child alive (McQueen). With so many that admired and loved him for his spirit and talents…and yet the light was not there for him to find.

So I urge you to consider how hurt the 83 staff and supporters in AVENUE of Life that worked so hard to raise funds and help the cause, when they see your searing untruths for which I cannot rationalise your motivation. What gives any of us any right to judge on other people’s philanthropical efforts? We give of what we can and to the best of our abilities. All of us are equal in the face of cancer. Life is precious. I have lost family members to cancer. I wish that we can harness our energies to preserving all the good things in life and passing that on.

And as for Harper, if you recall, I came to you with the approach to collaborate between Mix + Mesh and Fashion for Life but due to mismatched objectives, I had informed you that we would have to leave Mix + Mesh out of RFL efforts although we would be organising separate events and activities instead. I came to you with openness as we have always been an RFL supporter and we were certainly not wanting to take away any attention from the cause. I even offered free coverage in any way we can.

As for the interview we offered you, Harper, to help publicise your efforts for Fashion for Life…I know you never asked but we offered. However asking for a byline simply by replying some questions do not make you the writer of the interview. Our writer would have refashioned and constructed a more narrative style of the interview to give insights that are unseen to the readers. Q+A does not equate to co-writing.

I have about 120 staff to care for to provide them with creative outlets and a modest remuneration for their contributions. Is it so wrong to want to compensate them marginally to thank them for what they do? Yes, AVENUE Magazine has advertorial simply because from someone who comes from a marketing background, I have seen how advertorials work for real life brands such as Mac makeup, Clinique, etc. The covers are up for bookings but the final decision still lies with me as the Publisher, whether we will make them the cover story. If there is some greater beauty and merit for being able to share about new potential or helping them look their best, I would comply. Every company has a different business model and culture. And ours is not one of drama and negative energies. I created AVENUE to be like a family, free from drama and bad energies. I have fought for this very hard to protect those that have come to love and support me and I of them. So do not, print lies that are unsupported and worst of all, to tarnish the reputations of those you have no idea of who they are, who put their hearts and time to help others.

I hope that all of us, including myself, will dedicate our times and efforts to making this world we exist in better- real or virtual. Why are we tending to charitable efforts? Cos we all know how precious life is. So for all our sakes, live like it is precious…

“Perhaps you think that being a model means traveling the world, getting paid obscene amounts of money, drinking lots of Champagne, and having your own fashion line, a television show and an adoring public.

In a few cases — very few — that’s true. But, mostly, modeling is a job. And that job is to sell clothes.”

I can also see we’re a bit polarized in our choices. The good news is that there’s room for many different groups and business models in SL. That’s magnificent in fact. The best will prosper and the rest will fade away or attempt a different approach.

The economy of SL has dictated that new designers and new models take steps on their own, mind you, to establish where, if anywhere, they fit into things.That’s Darwinian and it works great. The best will rise to the top. Pretty basic business school stuff. The trick is staying at the top and relevant over time.

When their is a ripple in the force, like that being caused now by the emergence of mesh in SL, environmental changes occur, some designers/modles (species in effect) will die off and others will take their places seamlessly. Also a good thing.

“Pole” up his arse “mikos” is a tool. You want an “alternative?” If you had actually read what was written instead of over preparing your sanctimonious response, you might have caught the part where I mentioned, I hoped newer designers would bypass his “authority” altogether and decide for themselves which models are best suited for their products. Many are already starting to do this and running contests and castings without any involvement from BOSL and/or Frolic. They are selecting good models regardless of their name and frankly many could care less and want fresh new faces that haven’t been “messed” with by Frolic’s team of freaks. Want an another suggestion? How about Frolic get over his own hype, learn the definition of impartiality and fairness and actually revamp that joke of an academy to something of substance. ANYONE who has attended the course knows it’s a hot mess.

With regards to Avenue, are you joking with those comments? Avenue is amazing! The instructors are phenomenal and the lessons meaningful and informative. I am more convinced now that you are Frolic or one of his sleazy henchmen.

Jealous? Yeah we’re really super jealous of Frolic. LMAO. He’s just creepy and a complete narcissist. Sort of like you🙂

I wanted to personally make some clarifications about this statement from Polemikos:

““The other agency” AVENUE recently refused any PR coverage of the up-coming American Cancer Society Fashion For Life event without being paid their normal exorbitant rates. They could have run a simple double-spread ad in the March issue. It costs them nothing to do that. But no. They refused. BOSL, Maniera, Scruplz and others did without a second’s thought. AVENUE couldn’t be bothered in ANY way. Dream Seeker Estates paid over $2600US to sponsor 10 Sims. C’mon.”

Let me make abundantly clear as the lead of Fashion for Life, Avenue was never asked to provide PR for FFL.

I will explain Avenue’s communications with me regarding Fashion for Life: First, they had approached me to ask us to move the date of our fair so they could do their mesh fair after I had sent invites to designers to participate. I explained that we could not because our fair date is set on the bigger Relay for Life season. We are the opening event for Relay for Life. This has been true every of the past six years as far as I know (since I have only organized FFL for 2 years). So moving our date was out of the question.

At that time, I offered Avenue a potential partnership with FFL but because the rules of RFL clearly state that ALL participation in promoting RFL has to be without any profit, the partnership did not work out. Avenue was offered a sim, free of charge, if they were willing to contribute all proceeds from their promotions to RFL. However that was not acceptable to them. Avenue is a for-profit business in SL and could not find a way to partner without making money themselves. And that’s fine. It’s their business model. No problem with that.

I gave them the name of the RFL chair to contact if they wanted to do something else for RFL. As far as I know, they never contacted the chair.

Avenue then approached me to do an interview for them about Fashion for Life. As I would have to do the majority of the writing on a notecard to their questions, I asked for a byline. They found this confounding and insulting. I also asked if Fashion for Life could be on their cover. They decided not to do an interview with me and found my request to have Fashion for Life on their cover preposterous. That’s also fine. It’s their magazine and their business.

Dream Seeker Estate Corporation has indeed given us a generous contribution. The sum is not public and really is no one’s business unless Dream Seeker Estate Corporation chooses to release the figure. The person commenting has no authority or knowledge of this.

Let me make this clear: Avenue was never asked to do PR for Fashion for Life so they couldn’t have refused to do PR. Why would I ask them to do so after they already seemed insulted?

In conclusion, Fashion for Life is going on across 10 sims from March 10-20 with over 200 designers with ALL proceeds (100% without exception) going to Relay for Life and the American Cancer Society. Please join us in celebrating fashion and the support of our fellow residents as they celebrate fashion and its power to make a small dent in the suffering cancer causes for people around the world. Read more at http://fashionforlifesl.org

Your said
“Frolic is so businesslike that when someone accused him of being a broke ass computer geek, he immediately fired off multiple notices throughout SL making a spectacle of himself. Sounds like a professional right?”

That’s Frolic alright! That’s how he acts.

Like a kid in a playground, with some pcs, loads of money to spend and an egomaniac attitude. He is not a kid, even though in RL he still lives with his mother.

You can speculate on my identity all you wish. The simple fact of the matter is that I am more adept in my use of English then Frolic is. It’s my first language afterall. For someone with English as a 2nd language Frolic is very well spoken.

Let’s go a different direction here with a recent under the radar transaction somewhere else.

“The other agency” AVENUE recently refused any PR coverage of the up-coming American Cancer Society Fashion For Life event without being paid their normal exorbitant rates. They could have run a simple double-spread ad in the March issue. It costs them nothing to do that. But no. They refused. BOSL, Maniera, Scruplz and others did without a second’s thought. AVENUE couldn’t be bothered in ANY way. Dream Seeker Estates paid over $2600US to sponsor 10 Sims. C’mon.

A group of SL’s most successful designers paid L$50,000 each to co-sponsor those same sims with Dream Seeker. Meanwhile 100s of people and organizations in SL have contributed their time and creativity freely to this worthwhile cause where 100% OF THE PROCEEDS GO DIRECTLY TO THE BENEFICIARY and that process is COMPLETELY transparent unlike most other charities in SL. Jesika Contempomi the CMO of AVENUE seems to think that charity begins at home. Anything at AVENUE is for available for a price, so their publication is really an advertorial with no journalistic integrity whatsoever. You only need to read the package they send out to potentila advertisers to get a fix io the scope of their venality. Want the cover along with your :story? L$25,000 no problem Chew on that one.

Polimekos you say you’re not Frolic, but oddly you sound so much like him in tone, writing manner and word. You defend him with vigor and bird’s eye view from the inside. Huh, interesting. You must be some “admirer.”

@ The Reporter….you’re AWESOME!!! Your remarks are lucid and articulate. What a refreshing change from the usual stupidity being hurled around here. Frolic has run roughshod over SL modeling for far too long. As with any person who rises or elevates themselves to a position of power, it goes right to their head and they believe they are impervious to scrutiny. Frolic runs the SL conglomerate that is BOSL. You’re correct, this is the tool by which he makes Lindens, which are then converted into RL money. Fine. I don’t think people have a problem with someone running a business and making money. What disturbs me is the way he wields his “power.” As the creator of a virtual publication and other SL media sources, he’s anything but impartial and I have a problem with that. Case in point, the Gizza/Vero controversy. If he were a true professional and “businessperson” he would’ve stayed neutral and not thrown his endorsement behind Gizza. Unfortunately, this hurt another SL business owner who provided volumes of evidence to prove her innocence. Many models erroneously feel they need Frolic’s seal of approval and now will steer clear of Vero clothing. That is despicable. Frolic is so businesslike that when someone accused him of being a broke ass computer geek, he immediately fired off multiple notices throughout SL making a spectacle of himself. Sounds like a professional right?

Thank you calling me friend, but for now i do not feel the same feeling for you.

Your name should suggest a simple truth: you are free to express your opinions, i am free to express my opinions. Opinions can be positive, negative, neutral, and much more. They are free for everyone. I want to answer your question: I never knew Frolic Mills in person, but I have gathered a bit of information (websites, secondlife). Obviously, he could have said a lot of bullshit, but it is not my problem to verify that. I am just telling my opinion, and I rely on the information I have. Do not forget we’re talking about a person who says he is a businessperson, and SL is the source of RL gain for him, he said many times he works only in SL. His goals are not the L$ but the $ that is born from them. It seems he has created a DBA with the name Frolic Mills, but DBAs are not intended to be anonymous, fictitious business names are simply used for creating operational business names and not intended to hide a persons real identity from those he do business with them.

It is not a secret that he has tried to create in SL the modeling competition of Donald Trump, the Miss Universe competition. He received a notification by LL, with orders not to use the trademarks of Miss Universe within SL. Then he tried to register the trademark Miss Virtual World, which was rejected with an explanation and notice (they are public records).

The attorney posted a wikipedia page, for the definition of the word “Virtual World”, and to explaining him:

“Applicant must disclaim the descriptive wording “VIRTUAL WORLD” apart from the mark as shown. The wording is merely descriptive as the goods allow for a beauty pageant in a virtual world as opposed to a real world pageant”

Simply to say… the source used from the lawyer was wikipedia… to explain to him a very common concept… maybe the word “model” is a very common concept too, is it not?

I don’t believe that simply because he says he is a businessman that he is entitled to dictate rules and standards for virtual models and, for better or worse, his behavior seems to me a delirium of omnipotence or extreme frustration, call it what you will.

Dictionaries tend to incorporate new terms and also enrich existing terms, but what I’m saying is that, according to Frolic, he thinks the “modeling world of Second Life” is so important for human existence, that the definition of “model” of “many” dictionaries consulted by him is INCOMPLETE!

Frolic, with your overarching knowledge and your virtual experience with models, please, save us from our ignorance. Sign in to wikipedia, as a contributor, and edit the page concerning the term “model” then add or complete the definition with the citation “from the second life experience of Frolic Mills”. Maybe you can them ask your supporters to do the same, to sign and add “supported by a virtual friend of Frolic Mills”.

I just said and I repeat, that most of designers do not want to waste time having problems with models, because their primary purpose is to earn money. I do not believe that a
designer should be a criminal if he or she wants to make a profit from their creativity. Your question about if the “time of virtual designer is less precious than time of real designers” seems to make no sense In this context. Indeed, I get the impression that YOU think it is possible there exists a gap between real and virtual designers.

What I believe is wrong, in the words of Frolic and yours, is when you argue that the models are the ones who “SELL CLOTHES “. I believe that it has become quite common to see designers and owners of agencies in SL that are treating the virtual models as “saleswomen”. In other words, they hire the models that have the most clicks on flickr and blogs. But this commercial view of SL, doesn’t authorize you (Frolic), to say that the term model, in real dictionaries is INCOMPLETE (or incorrect). The model is one who poses for a purpose, that could be commercial but not only commercial and should especially not be described as someone who “sells something”. You cannot define as incomplete the word “model” in the dictionary. And you cannot demand that the dictionary updates the word to support your delirium.

Maybe the ROLE of virtual model in the virtual world is incomplete, because the primary goal for you and others is financial gain, so models, have the possibility to work, only if they relate with the designers and increase their sales. But it is not a gap or fault in the real life that transitions to SL, it is a limit of the virtual world, which is simply a simulation of the real one. In the real world there are a lot of models without a primary commercial function, and i think that the commercial function is always secondary to the “pose for something” function…
and we need never consider the word commercial as “selling something” that is the function of sales women not models.

@ An overall response to the comments of “Frolemikus”

My Credentials??? Shouldn’t you be asking Frolic Mills for his and not mine? I’m just a pundit, and I have expressed opinions about the editorial note appearing in the latest issue of “The Best of SL Magazine.” What credentials should be used to express an opinion? I have to graduate the Academy of Frolic Mills? I have to kiss his ass every day? I need to delete my personality? Are these the credentials you are looking for?

You asked me if I’ve never been asked to write a book. That is a credential? Or is it an attempt to try to devalue me because you fear my words?

So, I am required to prove that I am someone, reporters, psychologist or anything else, to express my opinion about an article that appeared in a virtual magazine? So there are certain constraints, called credentials, required to express opinions. And you wish to limit my freedom of expression.

Perhaps so that other people do not read about or ask questions about Frolic Mills? He can afford to belittle the work of the authors of dictionaries and call it incomplete, but fails to support criticism of himself? If you do not want criticism then stop saying bullshit. Isn’t it that simple?

Your goal, Polemikos, perhaps, is this. You have to devalue and insult me in the eyes of the readers, to distract them from the editorial note of frolic mills. You want to make them believe that I did not have sufficient expertise to express an opinion. This is called intolerance and is the weapon used by those who have no basis of argument.

The group BOSL does not contain all the designers and / or dealers in SL. Most designers and / or dealers in SL have nothing to do with models and agencies. In fact many times I’ve noticed the profiles of designers who do not want any connection with these circuits. I’m sure, that the “usual suspects”, including models and the harem of designers of Frolic Mills, would be ready to immediately publish a post and come to the rescue of Frolic Mills, who cannot accept the fact that people can think differently from him.

The models are perhaps the most unique before the academy, but then when they come out, strangely, they seem very similar, especially with respect to designers they wear. It almost seems that during their “study” they are directed, or encouraged, to say the least, to associate with certain designers and photographers, who are strangely well associated with Frolic Mills. Your words are nearly a confirmation of my expressed doubts. The models must sell the products of designers, in other words, they are saleswomen. You and Frolic are saying the same thing, the models have to sell what they wear, then, are saleswomen.

The pattern of Frolic and his followers is always the same. Belittling, insulting, falsely accusing, never to argue in a subsisting.

Maybe if we said that Frolic Mills wants to control, with the tacit neglect of LL, the virtual world of fashion, for his personal profit and megalomania, and it comes to discount the reality in favor of virtuality, defining incomplete definitions of dictionaries is simply absurd.

The evidence to support my argument is the behavior and words of Frolic Mills.

You people are annoying. You’re like those zombies in The Mummy wandering around mumbling, “IMOTEP, IMOTEP”…..”FROLIC, FROLIC.” Anyone who has a differing opinion, doesn’t agree and tow the traditional line, is unsuccessful and suffers from an acute case of “sour grapes.” Could you possibly be more generic? Yay, you win Frolic is the best and he encourages models to be unique. At the end of the day it’s a glorified video game and we don’t have to personally “know” Frolic to figure him out. Like I said, people need to get over their own hype. There are too many overblown egos on here. I suspect one of these people IS Frolic himself. Before any of you tries to convince the rest of us, he’s so above posting here, think again. We know better! Enjoy.

In a virtual magazine, “The Best of SL Magazine”, an editorial note has been published, ”modeling the right way” by the editor, Frolic Mills, which I think shows a fundamental lack of modeling foundation.

Comment:Perhaps you should share YOUR credentials to even comment they are notably absent from your blathering

Frolic Mills stated he has received proposals to write a book about “modeling”. I think he may be referring to real “modeling”, in the which I don’t think he has any particular expertise. Of course, in order to learn a trade, nobody can say that books aren’t necessary, at least to learn the so-called theory. However experience is necessary to produce those books and from his own words he demonstrates that the virtual models are not like real models, therefore he has virtual experience with virtual models. Certainly this is not the kind of experience one would expect is necessary to write a book about “modeling”
Comment: You say you “don’t think” I agree 100% with that. Have you gotten many requests to write a book about anything?

His presumption is not limited simply to a “claim to know” where he has no actual experience, but from reading newspapers and books on fashion and virtual experiences (simulated and clearly and not on equal footing with reality), Frolic Mills believes there are incomplete definitions with several online dictionaries concerning the word “model” for which he would probably like a change (though I doubt they would comply).
Such arrogance is summarily offensive against those who for years have worked to structure dictionaries and sources of true knowledge. If, living in your virtual world, you begin to believe that these things are real and others must adapt reality to this sub-simulation, you’ve reached the level of total delirium.

Comment: I see that you’re a Psychologist in addition to being a journalist. Good combination if only it were true. So far I see no evidence to support that in what you’ve written.

Virtual modeling is supposed to simulate the real one inside of a three-dimensional environment. The actual models are represented by avatars with animated movement and poses.

Comment: This is true. Pretty redundant tho most people in SL know it’s a “three-dimensional” environment. I note this to highlight how pedantic you are.

Most of the virtual world designers do not care how virtual models combine their products into an outfit, quite simply because they do not want any problems or loss of time since their primary goal is to make money selling 3D products. The few designers who do spend their time with models, are those who earn less and are interested in satisfying their personal egos in order to feel wanted inside the virtual community.

Comment: How do you know what “most virtual world designers” care, or do not care, about or what their primary goals are? Which ones did you interview to garner this opinion? Feel free to publish those interviews. We’re curious

The standards you created are only yours. Then you created the Academy for models, who pay to follow your courses. The models now believe in these standards and is, perhaps, why they are all clones of one another.

Comment: More blathering. Blady blah bahhhhhhhh blah Miss Virtual World Academy models are encouraged to be UNIQUE and to find their own styling niches. If you’d attended you’d know this

You yourself say that the models have only a few seconds on the catwalk to show and sell what they are wearing … yep … because the models for virtual Frolic Mills are simply salespeople!

Comment: Duh! The models are not working for Frolic Mills, they’re working for, and selling for, the designers whose creations they wear so proudly and who pay them to do it. Selling is where RL and SL coincide 100%. Do you have a problem with that idea?

Just one question to both of you: – Do you people actually know Frolic Mills in real life? I certainly don’t, but from your comments I am guessing you do.

How do you know what credential he has?

I have no clue, but I have heard him in his tv fashion shows and what he says makes sense at least to me. So you are not a fan? Big deal! Many have benefited from this – What is wrong with that?

To Disgusted: Mix and Match is not assigned by Frolic Mills to “create” weird looks, it is there so that models start thinking outside the box. I am guessing from your words that you have taken his classes, well so have I. He praises an interesting new look just the same as he does an understated one gown elegant look.

The rest I won’t even comment on because it just sounds like you have some sour grapes about Frolic and his academy. Say what you want, but it is the most successful modeling academy in Second Life, and I don’t think that many people are wrong. They learn, they grow and they make a happy living as a model.

Now over to Reporter:

“Such arrogance is summarily offensive against those who for years have worked to structure dictionaries and sources of true knowledge. ”

Answer: Dictionaries are ALWAYS updating their definitions because they are indeed outdated, obsolete or incomplete.

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“Most of the virtual world designers do not care how virtual models combine their products into an outfit, quite simply because they do not want any problems or loss of time since their primary goal is to make money selling 3D products.”

Answer: Do you think virtual designer’s time is more valuable than real life designer’s time? Real Life designers take hours to define the complete look, because they think it is important.

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“You yourself say that the models have only a few seconds on the catwalk to show and sell what they are wearing … yep … because the models for virtual Frolic Mills are simply salespeople!”

To “Just my opinion” just because we don’t go around singing Frolics praises, making pointed criticism and not licking his boots, doesn’t make us obsessed or psychotic. Actually, you’re tired devotion to some sassy egomaniac sitting at his computer all day, begs the question, how sane are you? I personally could care less who did or did not get voted for and or received his stamp of approval. People are just sick of his crap! You don’t have to be a pulitzer prize winning writer to communicate that. “Read Here” is absolutely correct and Frolic IS getting on nearly everyone’s last nerve. His whole SL modeling philosophy is questionable. He shows up to the final of his “academy” and goes on and on about RL modeling, meanwhile, as an avid fashionista and fashion follower, I rarely to never see all this “mix and match” he’s got going on. Models, celebrities and notable icons wear ONE designer and style it. He’s got SL models showing up all over the grid looking like big hot messes in mis-matched clothing, uncomplimentary colors and looking practically ghost-like. It’s like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory got a hold of SL modeling. What a joke! This is the so called authority of modeling in SL? This guy thinks anyone in RL modeling is even remotely interested in his opinion on “How to Model?” Who in their right mind would ever buy a book he wrote? And his credentials are? He’s just some random dude who has escaped the real world and because he’s saucy and sarcastic people have put him on some virtual pedestal. It’s actually really sad.

In a virtual magazine, “The Best of SL Magazine”, an editorial note has been published, “modeling the right way” by the editor, Frolic Mills, which I think shows a fundamental lack of modeling foundation.

Frolic Mills stated he has received proposals to write a book about “modeling”. I think he may be referring to real “modeling”, in the which I don’t think he has any particular expertise. Of course, in order to learn a trade, nobody can say that books aren’t necessary, at least to learn the so-called theory. However experience is necessary to produce those books and from his own words he demonstrates that the virtual models are not like real models, therefore he has virtual experience with virtual models. Certainly this is not the kind of experience one would expect is necessary to write a book about “modeling”.

His presumption is not limited simply to a “claim to know” where he has no actual experience, but from reading newspapers and books on fashion and virtual experiences (simulated and clearly and not on equal footing with reality), Frolic Mills believes there are incomplete definitions with several online dictionaries concerning the word “model” for which he would probably like a change (though I doubt they would comply).

Such arrogance is summarily offensive against those who for years have worked to structure dictionaries and sources of true knowledge. If, living in your
virtual world, you begin to believe that these things are real and others must adapt reality to this sub-simulation, you’ve reached the level of total delirium.

Virtual modeling is supposed to simulate the real one inside of a three-dimensional environment. The actual models are represented by
avatars with animated movement and poses.

Most of the virtual world designers do not care how virtual models combine their products into an outfit, quite simply because they do not want any problems or loss of time since their primary goal is to make money selling 3D products. The few designers who do spend their time with models, are those who earn less and are interested in satisfying their personal egos in order to feel wanted inside the virtual community.

The standards you created are only yours. Then you created the Academy for models, who pay to follow your courses. The models now believe in these standards and is, perhaps, why they are all clones of one another.

You yourself say that the models have only a few seconds on the catwalk to show and sell what they are wearing … yep … because the models for virtual Frolic Mills are simply salespeople!

I had a blast when I read all the comments people made chosing their own Top 3 Top Models, suggested in his blog by none other than “THE” drama queen in SL – Frolic Mills.

Comment: Glad you had a blast SL is all about having fun.

Why even suggest such a topic? Who the heck cares who are the top 3 Top Models in SL?

Comment: Lots of people cared enough to name personal favorites. They had some fun with it too.

Yea, yea, I know – here come all the comments – hey if you don’t like it , why did you read it? Obvious! How could I say something if I hadn’t read it?

Comment: You’re having even more fun with it now mouthing off.
People naming as Top Models avatars like Ponchituti Boucher, Shena Neox, Shantal Gravois, Falbala Fairey, Rusalka Callisto. What? Top Models? Where? LMAO

Comment: I suppose this would be your way of disrespecting these people. You are such a charmer.

Can’t stop laughing really LMAO, it’s so hilarious! I named just a few suggested Top Models, anyways, who are they? What are they good at?

Comment: You’re still having fun mouthing off. Are we supposed to take you seriously?

Mimmi Boa, I can understand – she’s famous, not necessarily a top model. Terrible photographer, it’s really a pain to see her Flickr page.

Comment: Does this statement mean you consider Mimmi one of SL’s top models of all-time? I’ll take that as a yes.

Anna Saphire is in fact an amazing model. I give her that. Great stylist, too, she puts quality in everything she does.

Comment: Now you’ve chosen Anna Sapphire as your second pick. A great choice also.

Miaa Rebane isn’t on the runways much, she took a turn and became a really good stylist and blogger. No wonder she is now more connected with the best SL Model Agency (you figure out which one I’m talking about).

Comment: Your third pick is also notable, mostly for her recent participation in AVENUE’s (yeah,that other agency, we got your veiled reference) virtually, obscene Alure PR fiasco. That got talked about by lots of people but not in a good way. She was a decent Miss Virtual World and her blog is worth a look now and again. Her photographic and styling skills are far better then average.

Kay Fairey is a hard working person. She does everything, helps whenever she can. That’s why people name her as a Top Model, cause Kay is really a beautiful human being. Bust, just like Mimmi she is famous, not necessarily a Top Model.

Comment: Another stellar choice. Did you forget you only got to choose 3? Kay is simply one of those people who “pays it forward” without any hope of personal gain. She runs Miss Virtual World Academy, regarded by most as the best place to polish your modeling skills in SL. Her recently announced “A Star Is Born” group will do more for young models then ANY for profit school except the one she runs already to get them up to speed. With Wicca Merlin and BlackBarbie Bravin backing her up it can’t miss.

There are so many hard working models in SL, that it’s ridiculous to ask for a top 3. If this doesn’t call for a catfight I don’t know what would LMAO.

Comment: This BOSL poll, obviously, inspired you to sit at your keyboard and spew forth some opinons on your own favorites, despite your LMAO at the concept. Seems like you’re talking out both sides of your mouth here. Kinda like you were saying, “I don’t like this but I’d pick Mimmi Boa, Anna Sapphire, Miaa Rebane and Kay Fairey.” Right. I get it.

And thanks to AR, I don’t have to comment on BOSL blog. I read it once, had a blast, exit and move on with my life.

Comment: Feel free to comment and share more of your opinions here at A. R.any time.

Yea, I’m also expecting that old comment “get a life” LMAO. I got two.

Comment: You laugh a lot. Do you find yourself that amusing? You’re not really very funny or even that good a writer.

You guys are so obsessed with everything Frolic does it raves on psychotic.

Lists and polls in real life about top models, actors, best cars, most beautiful people, richest people. etc have existed for eons.

If you are hurt because your friends didin’t vote for you, then you should get different friends, but I don’t see any problem with the poll at all. In fact. I thought it was rather interesting to see what others think for a change.

I can’t agree more “What a blast,” this was a despicable and terrible thing to do for SL modeling. There are so many models and participants in this online gaming industry. Each with their own strengths and weaknesses. It can be very competitive and prior to this, there was a surge towards a friendlier, kinder modeling environment. People were really fed up with the drama. I’m disgusted with Frolic and his antics. He’s NOT the final authority on this stuff and his hype is annoying. I’ve noticed many good models are bypassing him and his organizations entirely. Hopefully newer designers will work outside of his silly crazy world and the modeling industry in SL as a whole can be free of his tyranny. It’s shameful what he did with this Top 3 thing…shameful!!!

Can’t stop laughing really LMAO, it’s so hilarious! I named just a few suggested Top Models, anyways, who are they? What are they good at?

Mimmi Boa, I can understand – she’s famous, not necessarily a top model. Terrible photographer, it’s really a pain to see her Flickr page.

Anna Saphire is in fact an amazing model. I give her that. Great stylist, too, she puts quality in everything she does.

Miaa Rebane isn’t on the runways much, she took a turn and became a really good stylist and blogger. No wonder she is now more connected with the best SL Model Agency (you figure out which one I’m talking about).

Kay Fairey is a hard working person. She does everything, helps whenever she can. That’s why people name her as a Top Model, cause Kay is really a beautiful human being. Bust, just like MImmi she is famous, not necessarily a Top Model.

There are so many hard working models in SL, that it’s ridiculous to ask for a top 3. If this doesn’t call for a catfight I don’t know what would LMAO.

And thanks to AR, I don’t have to comment on BOSL blog. I read it once, had a blast, exit and move on with my life.
Yea, I’m also expecting that old comment “get a life” LMAO. I got two.

The point about being anonmous even if I cant spell it, is that its true we all use names that arent ours in rl, so I think Anonymous because I can be!!!! made her point really well. We are all anonymous!

Cade I also agree with you about people being nasty, as I have been subjected to that myself. However when someone is upset with the way they see things then venting is the point of this forum, and they have every right to make their point. If they are directing their named vents at other people who have written in the forum then thats fine, as you can respond. The thing that annoys me is picking on non sim owners by inworld name who dont contribute, thats just plain nasty, even if what they say is true.

As for people coming to your IM, maybe they dont for the simple reason that SL time is meant to be fun and not drama filled having a never ending argument in IM. Also some models may not wish to make their feelings known because doing that will make their SL modelling time difficult. There is an aweful lot of favouratism in SL modelling, just like in RL, so its not a case of being brave etc and coming to your IM. Thats why they come here.

People have ranted at me in here, and whilst I disagree with what they say and am terribly curious as to who they are and will have digs at them not using inworld names, its a free world and maybe if inworld I am friends with them, not knowing how they rant in here is not a bad thing. The reality is if someone IMd me it would stay in my IM, but they only have my word for that, its also something I would not like, I come to SL as I love it too, and dont wish to be involved in some rant inworld, I come here for that, I say my bit then get on with my life, no drama.

Bluto: Hey! What’s all this laying around stuff? Why are you all still laying around here for?
Stork: What the hell are we supposed to do, ya moron? We’re all expelled. There’s nothing to fight for anymore.
D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War’s over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.
Bluto: And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough…

To the people who come on here and call people out others for using “Anonymous”……Let’s be honest, for the most part everyone and everything associated with SL is “anonymous.” Really? Some of you are going to get all hot under the collar because people aren’t using their avi name? Get a grip! I don’t know Cade, but I thought it was funny his little rant about how childish and petty the posts here are. Wait, what did he call it, “petty childish bull crap?” Whatever. Granted there are always going to be people who suffer from an acute case of “sour grapes.” That said, people find a blog like this therapeutic. It’s a stress reliever, to be able to come here and speak one’s mind and get annoying issues off their chest. A lot of nonsense, favoritism and “bull crap” goes on in SL modeling. Unless, you’re at the very tippy top of the pyramid (a handful of computer geeks addicted to SL) in the SL modeling industry or one of Frolic’s Flavors of the Month, you’re getting basically screwed on a regular basis. People find that super frustrating and come here to vent. So, if you’re one of those lucky folks at the tippy top why do you even condescend to post here at all? Move on, it’s a GAME after all!!!

Shame, shame, shame
and one in particular has gone from the best to the beasts
now expect that the bomb will explode in all its roaring
This behavior is not worthy of a circle of professionals, but of a stye

I’m not here to take up for anyone or to reply to the comments made about me either but by coming on Agency Report and posting harsh things about others under the name “Anonymous” is rediculous and shows the lack of backbone you have…who ever all YOU “anonymous” people are. This is petty childish bull crap that goes on here.

If you are going to talk about others and the things that they do, then stop being a coward by hiding behind the name “anonymous”.

Grow up all you “anonymous” people. This isn’t pre-school… we are not 5 years old.

…..Now when the no name coward that decided to say something about me grows a pair of balls… my IM box is opened to you 24/7. Say it to my face as well as all the other people that have been talked about here.

By saying that we don’t know what you do haven’t you defined yourself as a failure of a marketing manager/PR by that statement alone? You sat back and watched Gizza become hated and haven’t done a thing to re establish Gizza as a brand. Too busy covering yourself? You should have been at the forefront of that fight. This is what you are hired to do.

And I DO know you are a terrible model, I was in the audience of the winter fashion week show and have had the misfortune of being backstage with you once also. You cant pose or style.

Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

If you knew anything about PR/marketing you wouldn’t be in here yapping like the chihuahua wannabe that you are. Marketing skills???? What marketing skills are you talking about? If you disappeared from Gizza no one would notice. You are not the driving force

It has nothing to do with my Marketing Skills, it’s just that it IS over, you haven’t heard anything from either side. So leave it alone, butt out, it’s none of your business and has nothing to do with you. You don’t know what I do, so don’t assume how well I do my job.

THAT’S the extent of your marketing skills, Tyler? “It’s the new year, sure this happened a few days ago but hey lets hope this attempt at whitewash works because I have nothing else…” No sorry. You are a terrible model and an even worse P.R.

There is something that needs to be said about all the Gizza drama stuff. Gizza didn’t only accuse Vero Modero, Giz also accused the designer from Amarelo Manga of copying her stuff. So, it’s like everybody seems to be copying from Giz.

This is childish, to say the least! Giz is everywhere around the grid, her brand, her stuff. But but, when designers use full perms templates to do their clothes, obviously somewhere, someone will be buying the same templates and texture them differently. Is this copy? Is this a matter of who released the item first? No, it isn’t. This isn’t copying. There are no grounds for any kind of legal charge against this.

The saddest thing about all this is that Giz’s items are high quality designs. She really doesn’t need to be doing this sick campaign against every designer out there.

I’m a model in SL and I can tell you for sure, I’ll never wear Gizza’s items. Never did, never will, just because I’m taking this seriously. Someone who acts like Giz Seorn – whoever she is – doesn’t deserve me spending one penny in her outfits. Everybody is free to do so, I simply do not agree nor comply with her attitudes. Period!

Cade Nansen is, in my opinion, one of the most overrated photographers in second life. I do not know for the life of me how he could gain so many views and comments and likes on photos that he has done. It really blows my mind that people really think that his photos are worth the loves and admiration that it has received. Im sure there are far better photographers in second life that can produce better photos and not gain half the recognition that he somehow as gained.

Also…

Can we ask just talking about his over inflated lips? He looks like he just came from the “dentist” with those things. I do not know how anyone could think that those lips are beautiful or perfect in any form. To me, he looks like a clown. Yes, people may enjoy clowns because they make us laugh. Yet, once they remove the make up and step out of the limelight, they are just like anyone else. I believe Cade Nansen fits that example like a glove. Once he is out of the limelight…or shadow of some people. There isn’t anything special about him.

It is tragic see how Frolic now try look good after Rico & Edi spoke against the sick campain that Gizza been doing to Vero Modero. Never forget that he said Giz is one of the ten best people in fashion in latest BOSL magazine. He even change clothing at a show when Giz told him to change as he had Vero Modero clothing. Frolic took part in condemn people that worked with Vero Modero lots of time making different decision picking people for this and that. Just becaus he wanted to play safe as he know that putting his money on wrong horse cost him lindens. The only thing that matter to Frolic.

Two of Frolic best friends now took a brave stand against other coward people in the “fashion elite”. This is the final proof of that the emperor Frolic has no clothes on. Shame on you and shame on other “in” models spending time on kissing up and kicking down. This story put a sad lights over the Miss Virtual World contest and most of the contestant in it. For me Rico and Edi are the new emperors and i wish they go on from here and start up an alternativ for them who want fair play!

Wow, It’s really sad to see people turn their backs, so quick, to a company that they have loved for months now. This just goes to show the real people from the fake people and who you can really trust.

I am ashamed of most of you from siding with the “IN” group of people who seem to have some kind of vendetta against an innocent designers who might have a feud with another designer who is accursed of copying clothing and other unknown facts. Yes, that is the key phrase, “unknown facts”. If you don’t not know the WHOLE story, i would just think it would be a good idea to keep your mouths shut.

Lies have been spread and people have been misinformed. Until you know 100% of the facts in this matter, or really any other matters.

It is tragic see how Frolic now try look good after Rico & Edi spoke against the sick campain that Gizza been doing to Vero Modero. Never forget that he said Giz is one of the ten best people in fashion in latest BOSL magazine. He even change clothing at a show when Giz told him to change as he had Vero Modero clothing. Frolic took part in condemn people that worked with Vero Modero lots of time making different decision picking people for this and that. Just becaus he wanted to play safe as he know that putting his money on wrong horse cost him lindens. The only thing that matter to Frolic.

Two of Frolic best friends now took a brave stand against other coward people in the “fashion elite”. This is the final proof of that the emperor Frolic has no clothes on. Shame on you and shame on other “in” models spending time on kissing up and kicking down. This story put a sad lights over the Miss Virtual World contest and most of the contestant in it. For me Rico and Edi are the new emperors and i wish they go on from here and start up an alternativ for them who want fair play!

lol, I had several posts before that were all filtered out but that wordpress already knew were on the website. This place is a joke. You filter out the opinions that you don’t want represented or that you cannot easily debate against. Perhaps filtering comments against certain individuals.

Not only are they looking at your IP address but they are also blocking certain posts against certain people and allowing you to see only what they will allow you to see here. This is not a free site where you can post your opinion.

I knew it! After ending with all arguments that are frequent when somebody doesn’t agree with something, here comes the last resort – install fear by threatening with a lawsuit. So predictable!

“1: You demand arguments, but you don’t seem to provide any for your accusations nor opinions. ”

I could provide evidence (and I should) if I had EVER said that this contes was rigged. Read back and you’ll see. I NEVER said that.
An opinion is just that – an opinion – and everyone is free to have their own. Why can’t you BOSL people deal with it?

Did I say this was unfair? Yes I did. So are all pageants – SL or RL – precisely because everyone has a different opinion! And people really are entitled to their own opinion, without providing any evidence or proof.

Read back again and show me where I said anything – and I mean ANYTHING bad about Azul’s designer? Just copy and paste. Read back.

You know? Things about lawsuits is that they must be very well structured. A lawsuit based on an opinion, on a public forum about a pageant, has no grounds whatsoever to succeed.
Especially if you’re not well documented. You didn’t read my comments fully.

How would our lives be without freedom of speech? Without everybody’s right to state their opinions freely?

Install fear won’t shut me up! Remember that. Read my comments and see what I say and who I mention.

That’s exactly how lawsuits are lost. An opinion is an opinion. An accusation is different. Read back and see if I EVER accused this contest of being rigged or said anything bad about Mami.

yep I agree with not liking the nasty stuff
I think people do get worked up, as they do put alot of effort into competitions and can sometimes say things that maybe they dont mean, but in the heat of the moment out it comes.
Unfortunately when they type it, then its here for stay.
I dont like it when judges are criticised or someone is accused of breaking the rules, when it is extemely unlikely that they did
I dont know the judges or organisers but from what I read they are lovely people, and I think sometimes the lovelier you are then you are going to be blamed for all sorts of things as people will look to you as a friend, and when you vote in a way they dont like they will take it out on you. If you were cold and distant they wouldnt, but thats human nature
The nasty stuff though is uncalled for, and if people have time to reflect and then offer some form of reconcilitiation without apologising, then thats always a nice outcome. I do hope it happens here

I agree, people need to take things a bit less seriously in this game, but slandering publically to question someone’s morals or ethics without any proof is indeed a punishable act, even if its over 1 linden.

I am ok with people not agreeing with the outcome of any competition. This happens all the time in rl and sl, but to come out publically and say it was a scam, or question judge´s ethics without any proof is indeed a crime.

I suppose hiding behind an anonymous poster opens up the door to this irresponsible behaviour.

But never forget … What goes around, comes around. When one day you get all kinds of unfair accusations from others, by all means remember the false accusations you made here.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if we all pay $20 to belong to Second Life that makes us equals.
It doesnt matter if its modelling or building cheerleading or anything really, everyone is the same.
People arent idiots if they have an opinion that is different, and as for the comment if this was rl there would be a lawsuit…well I dont think so. In rl most supermodels are under fed and overpaid and very odd people indeed.
I dont think I ever saw an avi eating or getting paid millions so its not the same thing. I also think any lawyer would laugh if someone wanted them to act just because omg they are accused by someone of cheating as a judge in a competition where the prize was maybe $100 and a picture of their avi.
So maybe a little dose of reality is needed.
I very much doubt if the judges did cheat, why would they? They might make decisions that you dont agree with, and indeed maybe wrong, but you try judging its not easy.

Sometimes there maybe an element of favouratism, thats human nature

Does it really matter if someone comes first or tenth? If it matters that much then maybe people are taking things a little too seriously.

However if it wasnt for the business owners none of this would take place so credit to them, as whoever they are, they will be accused of cheating corruption all sorts of things, when the reality is they bring much fun to us all, and so what if they make a little cash doing it, they will not get rich, and will get tons of negativity coming their way.

Just enjoy what second life has to offer, and as for the supermodel tag..hmmmm no such thing in SL, its just an avi who has nice skin and nice styling and can hit the pose button well, and hell the person behind the avi maybe a overweight 60 year old,,,,and you know what…thats fantastic…but I would imagine they would cringe if they were called a supermodel.

I have to agree with ‘I Hope you know’ about Mami Jewell. Ms. Jewell is one of the classiest people anyone could ever meet or work with in Second Life. As someone who has modelled for Azul, working with her is a real pleasure. I like modeling in SL but I’m not any supermodel name but she treated me as equals to those who have a big name in the industry – with class and respect. She never made me or anyone with a lesser name or experience feel any less important than others who worked in her show.

I think it gets down to this – for those of us who have had the honor of working with Ms. Jewell it has been one we won’t forget. And for us, to see someone slander her event and her reputation, well we will defend her.

1: You demand arguments, but you don’t seem to provide any for your accusations nor opinions.

2. Accusing Frolic’s pageant of not being transparent or clean without providing any proof is actually a punishable crime. – Where are your arguments? – Did you talk to the judges? – Did you see the score cards? – Did you talk to Mami Jewell? (give us proof!)

3. Miss Azul is not Frolic’s pageant. It belongs To Mami Jewell – whom I do have proof is a woman of integrity and who won’t, unlike yourself, come here to accuse anyone of anything without proof.

4. Idiot is defined as a uneducated or ignorant person.

5. You are indeed a criminal idiot. – Deal with it! – in RL you would have a lawsuit on your hands!

@ Acually, right? All this rage and hostility over a glorified video game. It’s sick and twisted. There are so many real life problems out there that demand our attention and these people here, fussing over a game. How pathetic.

Weird! I thought that Agency Report is a website where we can express ourselves, give our opinions, debate and discuss. Anonymously , if we so wish. Again, it’s a matter of common sense; why should anyone send notices about this inworld? That’s why Agency Report exists, right? If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

When some people are out or arguments, there is a couple of things that became quite common here, like you just did. To start with, we can write anonymously – deal with it!

Then, the “get a life” thing. Actually, I have two – deal with it!

We all have freedom of speech. Don’t make it personal on me, because I’m not making this personal on you – unless you are Frolic.
If you are one of his friends – deal with it!

Take an opinion as it is.

And I really have to thank you for briging more light to this issue. You obviously are a close person to the contest we’re talking about to know that the judges score the contestants, which is how it’s usually done in most beauty pageants in SL. It’s ok, no problem there.

Good to know also that the winner didn’t make it to MVW, well not because she’s Frolic sister, but because she works at one of BOSL organizations. (By the way, where is Shae lately? You mentioned her, not me!)

One more touch; I never said Frolic pays anyone to vote or score, did I?😉
And yes, I do think you are one of Frolic’s kiss ass.😉 It’s my opinion.

Deal with it!
Don’t read Agency Report, send out a notice inworld about this, identify yourself, basically, do every little thing you told us here to do.
Easier said than done, right?

Just FYI, Ponchi is NOT MVW Finalist. The reason is simple. She is MVW Academy Executive and she was automatically disqualified. Annough lykin who is the first runnner up for Miss Azul took the place as MVW Finalist.

So there you go, sorry to burst that bubble for you.

Besides, if no judge who knows a contestant can’t be a judge, then sorry to say, but there wouldn’t be any contests or pageants in SL.