Barack Obama Wins!!!!!
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McCain's concession speech was beautiful and gracious and just truly honorable. Some of the respect I had lost in him came back in that one speech alone. He was truly a class act in that speech. His supporters booing Obama had to make it even harder on him, but he handled himself with dignity and I just wanted to put that in this thread. After that speech McCain can hold his head high when he walks back into the Senate chamber. That was the McCain I remember from 2000.

Well said. If the McCain from 2000 were running though, would he still have had all those supporters? It's funny how he had to dumb himself down to gain the support of the party. Says a whole lot, I'd say.

Well said. If the McCain from 2000 were running though, would he still have had all those supporters? It's funny how he had to dumb himself down to gain the support of the party. Says a whole lot, I'd say.

It does say a lot. I think Dubb said it best when he talked about the differences in the crowds on Tuesday night. I noticed it too. Obama's crowd looked like America, McCain's crowd looked like a country club party. Also seeing that Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada all went for Obama and that he got 14% more of the Latino vote than Kerry did 4 years ago, that says a lot too. If the Republican party keeps up this anti-immigration rhetoric, wanting to build walls, they will never win again. They can get away with ignoring blacks, Arabs, and Asians but not Latinos and that showed on the electoral map.

What I find interesting is now is some of McCain's staff are calling Palin and her family "Wasila hillbillies." They use folks like Palin and Joe the Plumber to get people to the polls but when it doesn't work (like this time) they demean them and make fun of them. Maybe cloth coat Republicans will finally wake up and see that fur coat Republicans don't give a shit about them except for on Election day.

But I hope that McCain's speech is a sign that the Mac is back.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Thats pretty much it right there. Crazyhorse and Mr.Jet along with choon and jettingaway have made some great points on topic. Timebandit has offered us nothing but his own personal opinions, yet most of the people on here suggest factual based point of the subject matter. Like crazyhorse said, calling people little kiddy names in a grown mans debate makes you sound like a tool and even more so juvenile. So for future reference sir, if you would like to converse o.k, but please don't start spewing off at the mouth and calling people names because what does that solve. Just by reading your posts you sound like someone who would vote for McCain. Speaking of McCain, could you imagine the fiasco that would have been had he became pres?... Palin with her 'unreadiness' to follow behind him. Please, would have been a media circus and not of the positive variety.

We chose the best man for the job and if you don't agree then fine but try and be classy about opinions and comments. You sound desperate. Be cool.

Thats pretty much it right there. Crazyhorse and Mr.Jet along with choon and jettingaway have made some great points on topic. Timebandit has offered us nothing but his own personal opinions, yet most of the people on here suggest factual based point of the subject matter. Like crazyhorse said, calling people little kiddy names in a grown mans debate makes you sound like a tool and even more so juvenile. So for future reference sir, if you would like to converse o.k, but please don't start spewing off at the mouth and calling people names because what does that solve. Just by reading your posts you sound like someone who would vote for McCain. Speaking of McCain, could you imagine the fiasco that would have been had he became pres?... Palin with her 'unreadiness' to follow behind him. Please, would have been a media circus and not of the positive variety.

We chose the best man for the job and if you don't agree then fine but try and be classy about opinions and comments. You sound desperate. Be cool.

And adding to that, like I said earlier, whether you agree or not, he's your President now, so get behind him because for the next 4 years thats all you can do. Give him his fair chance.

The US government is not a democracy, it's a constitutional republic. Democracy implies tyranny of the majority, and we just don't have it. I mean, when's the last time you voted on a the passage of legislation?

Oh we were supposed to be a republic but we are not, don't get confused. What we have now is a very close to a full-fledged democracy. I think you can make an argument that we certainly have a tyranny of the majority, I just think we got lucky this time. But the next? Who knows.

A bizarre belief among many African black men that sex with a virgin -- even a child or baby -- can cure HIV/AIDS is fueling what is already one of the highest child sexual exploitation rates in the world.

According to the latest report by South Africa's Police Service, children are the victims of 41 percent of all rapes and attempted rapes reported in the country. Over 15 percent of all reported rapes are against children under 11, and another 26 percent against children 12-17. For the year 2000, some 58 children were raped or the victims of rape attempts in South Africa every single day.

The trend is worsening. Babies as young as only a few months old are being raped almost daily. Many black South African men infected with AIDS erroneously believe that by having sex with a virgin -- even a baby -- they will be cured of AIDS or their HIV infection.

South African police statistics show that last year alone, 21,538 rapes and attempted rapes of children under the age of 18 were reported. The KwaZulu-Natal province, which includes Durban, where concern has already been expressed over the sharp rise in child abuse cases, was top of the list with 4,797 reported cases in 2000, followed by Gauteng province (formerly Transvaal, which includes Johannesburg) with 4,316.

For the first six months of 2001, some 10,242 cases were reported, and once again KwaZulu-Natal recorded the highest figure with 2,236, followed by Gauteng with 2,076.

This level of crime contrasts with 1994, for example, when a total of 7,559 cases were reported - about one third of the current level. The figure increased dramatically over the next three years and in 1997 stood at 15,336.

It is believed that a large percentage of incidents go unreported, and police have launched extensive campaigns to inform women and children of their rights.

Police said research conducted over the past five years indicated that in 83 percent of sexual abuse cases, the perpetrators were known to their victims.

"This story has been largely ignored by the mainstream media in the United States and the Western world, in order to perpetuate the Mandela myth of the wonderful New South Africa," said former Republic of South Africa military intelligence officer Koos Ven der Merwe.

And Debbie Coetzee, a South African police detective who specializes in rape cases told WND the situation for babies in South Africa will probably "get worse before it gets better."

"Did you ever read 'Heart of Darkness'? she asked. "Well, we are way beyond that point and well on our way towards barbarism. Abortion, pornography, filthy TV shows and movies, lack of respect for women and children, coddling criminals and rapists, these have all contributed to this crisis."

Durban resident Marilyn Kemp described baby rape as a horrible problem that South Africans must begin to address. "Though people feel strongly about it nothing still is being done to deter these men -- their sentences are light," she said. "I feel that only international publicity and fervent prayer will bring some results."

The incidents of baby rape in South Africa are truly horrifying. Reports by the South African Press Association contain items such as these:

On Nov. 11, a nine-month-old baby girl from Kimberley in the Northern Cape who survived a gang rape underwent a full hysterectomy and will require further surgery to repair intestinal damage, a hospital spokesperson said. The baby from Louisville was left unattended by her 16-year-old mother when six Upington men allegedly raped her. The baby had undergone a full hysterectomy and she suffered extensive damage to her colon and *@#* as well The six men, aged between 22 and 66, appeared in the Kimberley Magistrates Court on charges of rape and indecent assault on Monday.This past Halloween, on October 31, a month-old baby girl was raped, allegedly by her uncles, in Tweeling in the Eastern Free State Police spokesperson Loraine Kalp said the mother of the child had left the baby in the care of the men when she went to visit her mother-in-law. Upon her return last night, she found the baby crying and as she lifted her, she saw blood on her bottom. She then took the baby to a clinic where she was told the girl had been raped and sustained vaginal damage. In other reported cases, rapists have gone beyond penile penetration, using objects including broken bottle tops, sticks or harmful liquids that are pushed or inserted into the victim's vagina. But police now say these brutal criminals are sure to be arrested and positively linked to their crimes.AIDS babies in garbage dump

Equally shocking is the growing phenomenon of black babies with AIDS being thrown away in dumps around the nation, say South Africa police intelligence officials.

South African social worker Fiona Brophy says she has had enough, and that she plans to spend five days living inside a black plastic garbage bag atop the rotting rubbish dump at the Athlone refuse transfer station to draw international attention to the terrifying and growing problem. Brophy will live inside a black plastic bag day and night without even basic amenities, say reports in the South African media.

Brophy wants to create awareness of the huge number of newborn babies dumped in rubbish bins or abandoned in desolate spots, and to help raise funds for a community-based home for AIDS orphans.

"I want to express solidarity with all those tiny children who never had a chance to live in this world, and to make all those desperate mothers aware that there are alternatives to dumping babies," she told SAPA, the South African Press Association.

Brophy, who works at Little Angels, a non-profit organization for abandoned babies and AIDS orphans, said it was the chilling death statistics found in forensic units -- like "female infant, full-term in black plastic bag, discovered next to container" -- that had prompted her to take action.

"Many of these babies can be saved and have thrived in the past with the right love and care," she said.

Brophy told the South African Press Association she became aware of the plight of abandoned babies when she started working at Little Angels, the home of Phillip and Pat van Rensburg who have cared for more than 70 abused, abandoned or HIV-positive babies since 1997.

"I was so touched by the babies, even though some were there for such a short time. I started thinking of the ones who don't make it," said Brophy, who hopes to raise one million rand to support them with her dump demonstration.

The Renburgs told SAPA they believe that people should leave their unwanted babies at police stations, hospitals, welfare agencies, or contact Little Angels.

You'll NEVER see/hear about this in the LIBERAL media!!!...Where's FAT al??? his silence IS DEAFENING...just some more of my own "personal opinion"

You'll NEVER see/hear about this in the LIBERAL media!!!...Where's FAT al??? his silence IS DEAFENING...just some more of my own "personal opinion"

1. What does this story have to do with anything that has been talked about in this thread? You pulled this news story out of left field IMO because you were called out by the other posters here for your childish tactics. You're trying to find a reason to attack Al Gore (which I could understand if this story had anything to do with global warming) which again makes no sense since global warming and AIDS are two totally different issues. You're now just trying to divert our attention with this story that has nothing to do with what has been talked about.

2. This is a very sad story, it was very upsetting for me when I first saw this story on ABC years ago. Prince Harry did some work in Africa before he joined the military and I remember seeing him helping an orphan baby who had been raped by grown men with AIDS, because she was a virgin. So this story is nothing new to me and the millions of others that watched it on ABC that night a few years ago.

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Since graduating from Eton College last summer, Prince Harry has spent an eventful "gap year" club-hopping in London, ranching in Australia and, for two months last winter, working with AIDS orphans in Lesotho. While there, Harry gave a rare interview to Britain's ITN for a documentary that will also air on ABC's Primetime Live this fall. For the first time, Harry, 20, spoke at length about the legacy of his mother, Princess Diana, the bad rap he believes she has received from the media, and his desire to use his position to help others.

On continuing Diana's AIDS work:I have a lot of my mother in me. I just think she'd want us to do this, me and my brother. And obviously it is not as easy for William as it is for me. I have more time on my hands to be able to help.

On reminding the world what his mother achieved:It has been a long time now—not for me, but for most people—since she died. But the stuff that's come out [about her] has been bad. There [have] been all these tapes. Luckily I have been out here [in Africa] so I haven't really heard about it. But I feel bad because my father and brother have been taking the stick instead. It is a shame that after all the good she's done, even this far on people can't bring out the good in her.... Bad news sells, simple as that.

Visiting a Lesotho shelter for abused children, Harry befriended Liketso, a 10-month-old girl who had been raped. When he returned later, he found her in much better spirits:[When I first met Liketso] she was nothing, she was just lying there, just looking at the ceiling. She couldn't even cry. She could barely be fed either. It was horrible, there was no laughing, no crying, just completely emotionless. It was almost as if she knew what had happened. You can see it in her face, she almost knows what has happened to her. Hopefully if I can I would like to try and support her in her growing up, with her education.

At an orphanage in Lesotho, Harry was filmed building a security fence and responded to critics who have said his work is a PR ploy to play down his party-boy image:I've always been like this. This is my side that no one gets to see. I am not going to take a camera everywhere I go with me when I am trying to help out in different countries. I am who I am. Though I believe I am no one special, I can do things The fact that all the press came meant that we got [donations of] £2,000 ($3,600) which paid for the whole fence, which was perfect, [because] it means all the children were safe inside the orphanage.

On coping with media attention:I'd love to let it wash over me. I can't. I don't think anyone can. It is hard. But I am not out here for a sympathy vote.... William and I try to be normal. It's very difficult, but we are who we are. I feel that now I am getting to the age where I can make the most of that [celebrity]. I always wanted to go to an AIDS country to carry on my mother's legacy as much as I can. I don't want to take over from her, because I never will. I don't think anyone can. But I want to try and carry it on to make her proud.

PRINCE Harry has highlighted the plight of abused children in one of Africa’s poorest countries.

The young royal travelled to Lesotho to meet mistreated youngsters in a country struggling to address the problem of sexual and physical attacks on children.

Harry visited the new headquarters of a home for abused children which will become a national referral centre for their assessment and treatment.

The Prince’s charity, Sentebale, established in Lesotho two years ago to help children in need, has contributed a third of the new building’s £100,000 construction costs, with the remainder coming from a local bank.

Standing inside the centre built in the village of Ha Takalimane in northern Lesotho, Harry said with pride: “As you can see, it’s a fantastic building, especially compared to what they were last in.

“The vulnerable kids of Lesotho who need the help, need the shelter, will always be welcome here.”

Fears

While touring the facility, the 23-year-old disclosed his fears for one sexually abused child he has pledged to help throughout her life.

The centre was started by Lydia Muso, 54, a former paediatric hospital worker who cared for youngsters with social problems.

In 2004 Harry visited Lydia’s former home during his gap year and formed a bond with an abused baby called Liketso.

Aged 10 months at the time, she had been raped by her mother’s boyfriend in a country where some witch doctors believe sex with a young child or baby is a way of cleansing a man of Aids.

The baby - who had her womb removed because of her injuries - featured in a one-hour documentary Harry later made about his stay in Lesotho.

‘ I will help her through her education and whatever help she needs throughout her life ’

Harry, an officer in the Household Cavalry Regiment, said: “Liketso, as you know, was the 10-month-old baby that was raped.

“I said I would be willing, and I will, basically help her through her education and whatever help she needs throughout her life.

“This place is a shelter for children. They come in, they have their problems of whatever kind and they’re looked after, then they are reunited with their families as soon as possible.

“Liketso has been reunited with her family, which we were always worried about, because of the history - but them being reunited has happened now.

“That’s fantastic (but) I slightly feel as though she’d be better off here, but it’s not our decision to make.”

The Prince is spending a number of weeks in Lesotho with colleagues from the Household Cavalry Regiment, refurbishing a school for severely disabled children.

Looks like your claim that this story would NEVER be carried in the "liberal" media is like your other claims, dead wrong. The British press in The Sun and the BBC and the American press in People magazine and ABC both carried this story well before 2008.

Now instead of blaming Al Gore or the media and pointing out the problem, what is your plan to help fix this problem? It's easy to point out the problem and place blame, but that's not going to solve the problems in Africa.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

YAWN, I was pointing out the FACT that pouring money on a situation does NOTHING to improve it...just like our educational system, & the "great society" (trillions of dollars spent & where are we ...people still holding their hands out wanting to be GIVEN more) savage behavior will be perpetuated by those acting as savages...but I still say where are the so-called black "leaders" protesting this type of atrocious barbaric behavior, again the silence IS DEAFENING!!! I don't hear any of these so-called "leaders" looking to march on the UN or plan a trip to these parts of the country to protest.

making ASSumptions again jet...that's so unlike you.

PS-gmany the UN is nothing but a treasury for the corrupt nations of the world.

"Did you ever read 'Heart of Darkness'? she asked. "Well, we are way beyond that point and well on our way towards barbarism. Abortion, pornography, filthy TV shows and movies, lack of respect for women and children, coddling criminals and rapists, these have all contributed to this crisis."....Sounds like the libs have taken over S.Africa

YAWN, I was pointing out the FACT that pouring money on a situation does NOTHING to improve it...just like our educational system, & the "great society" (trillions of dollars spent & where are we ...people still holding their hands out wanting to be GIVEN more) savage behavior will be perpetuated by those acting as savages...but I still say where are the so-called black "leaders" protesting this type of atrocious barbaric behavior, again the silence IS DEAFENING!!! I don't hear any of these so-called "leaders" looking to march on the UN or plan a trip to these parts of the country to protest.

making ASSumptions again jet...that's so unlike you.

Whatever man. You were trying to save face by trying to change the subject and it didn't work. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You're too far in the woods to have a constructive conversation with. I knew that months ago and now the rest of the board sees it too. It doesn't matter anymore anyway. Obama won, he won by a big margin, and he's already preparing to take over on January 20th. The campaign is over. You might as well just accept he will be your President and deal with it. If John McCain can concede graciously and get over it, you should too. Then again John McCain has class.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

That's a great picture and I love it but whoever drew it got some things wrong. Woodrow Wilson didn't have a beard and Truman was President before Eisenhower.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

rriiigghhhttttt, your "opinions" or those that think as you do are the "only" ones that have merit, uh huh...as usual you make ASSumptions & think nothing of it...your such a TYPICAL lib, if an idea/thought/opinion does not fit into your myopic point of view then it MUST be extremism/ignorance/ or out of touch with what the rest of those in your little world believe. The people in that article describing the downfall of that Country due to the SAVAGERY caused by the liberal policies that have been instituted there doesn't get a peep out of you...So TYPICAL

rriiigghhhttttt, your "opinions" or those that think as you do are the "only" ones that have merit, uh huh...as usual you make ASSumptions & think nothing of it...your such a TYPICAL lib, if an idea/thought/opinion does not fit into your myopic point of view then it MUST be extremism/ignorance/ or out of touch with what the rest of those in your little world believe. The people in that article describing the downfall of that Country due to the SAVAGERY caused by the liberal policies that have been instituted there doesn't get a peep out of you...So TYPICAL

Obama won.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Before you went fishing you should have gotten some better bait than that.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.