Do you just not see that you're doing to same exact thing, with regards to enforcing your will over that of another?

There's a simple dichotomy here: whose right is supreme? The right of the smoker to puff away whenever and wherever he pleases, or the right of everyone else to not breathe in carcinogens.

You think the former, I think the latter.

No need for name-calling. Or politics, really.

No need to waste your time with guys like this jamo. If he can't comprehend our right to breathe clean air trumps his selfish needs to satisfy his addiction he's not going to engage in an intelligent conversation sans name-calling.

Do you just not see that you're doing to same exact thing, with regards to enforcing your will over that of another?

There's a simple dichotomy here: whose right is supreme? The right of the smoker to puff away whenever and wherever he pleases, or the right of everyone else to not breathe in carcinogens.

You think the former, I think the latter.

No need for name-calling. Or politics, really.

No need to waste your time with guys like this jamo. If he can't comprehend our right to breathe clean air trumps his selfish needs to satisfy his addiction he's not going to engage in an intelligent conversation sans name-calling.

Yep. He can't comprehend that his second had smoke is an assault on the olfactory senses of a non smoker. He also probably doesn't realize that the stench of his habit surrounds him even when he isn't smoking - the same way that you can smell a skunk even if you can't see it (to use his own metaphor).

It's unfortunate that this thread went from talk about an illegal drug used in public to a legal product used in public debate. As far as I'm concerned if it's legal and the establishment allows it's use that's the end of the discussion for me. If I wish to not be around it I can refuse to share a cart with the person or not be near them otherwise. I don't smoke, never have, but many of my friends and family do so I am much more tolerant of that. I have no problem being around my friends at their homes when they smoke weed, but I don't want to be around them if they do it in public. Whether I'm using it or not, if I'm around those that do I'll be a user by association to anyone who doesn't know me. That's not acceptable.

Jack and Arnie both quit smoking on the golf course when they realized how it made them look, and the courteous golfers who smoke will ask you if you mind, and then not smoke if you say "yes."

A picture from a different era - from long before we knew the true impact smoking has on our health even second-hand - demonstrates nothing, except to amuse many by the fact that you think you're making some sort of point.

As for the point itself, I don't know if I've ever played with someone smoking a joint. I probably have, but if so, I did so unknowingly.

If you are going to live by that photo, then maybe you should get one of those high tech drivers too. Things change. What is accepted changes. Smoking is no longer mainstream in the US.

When I see a teenager smoking these days I feel a bit sad for them. Odds are they started it as a lark, or to be one of the gang, but now that they are addicted, they try to tell themselves that they do it because they like it. I know, because I was one of them, 50 years ago. I quit 38 years ago, and it was by far the best gift I ever gave myself. Even back then at less than 50 cents a pack, I saved enough more to be able to afford a new car just from what I wasn't spending on cigarettes.

You can rant about it all you want, but in the end, all you are doing is killing yourself slowly - and degrading your quality of life while you do it.

I once heard that are general guidelines about treating other people with consideration and respect...to me, it's self-evident that those guidelines cover smoking, regardless of the substance. I also heard something about golf having etiquette rules... but I don't think those apply here.

A buddy of mine smokes weed on the course (and everywhere else) every time. I've gotten the occasional wiff of it, but I can't imagine telling him to stop because of that small of an intrusion. Better than someone farting I would think. I've encountered occasional other folks on the course who ask if I mind. Never do. To each his own.

As far as the 'contact high' - never really believed in this. Maybe if you were in a phone booth with the Parliament Funkadelic All-Stars for a half hour. But in the open outdoors where one guy is smoking weed? Probably just in your head because you were worried about it.

If you are going to live by that photo, then maybe you should get one of those high tech drivers too...

Got 'em, and the blades to go with!

BTW - I am courteous to others on and off the course. When folks politely ask that I not smoke in their home, car, etc I abide willingly. Only once on the driving range did someone ask that I not smoke, I thought it a little strange but voluntarily moved to the other end of the range.

I pick up my butts and dispose of them properly... unlike some uncouth folks who delight in spitting sunflower shells or other similarly disgusting but politically correct items all over the greens.

I don't play golf very well on weed (or alcohol for that matter), so I always play substance free. But once a year I play in a charity outing with the same three guys and we light up and play stoned out of our minds. A fun day, but once a year is fine. Golf is hard enough.

I don't necessarily mind it, per se, but I will avoid it like the plague if I can. Regardless of what it is that someone is smoking my airways close to the size of a drinking straw if I'm downwind and directly breathing it in. I just stay upwind of them and I'll be fine.

Interesting that people are considered "uptight" if they don't like the idea of people smoking marijuana on the course. A lot of people don't like the idea of illegal things happening in their presence.

Well I guess I am, because I know that there is just no way, that when you smell someone smoking weed, that the chemicals in it, physically affect you in any way, it is just in your head.

No, I have never even heard of anyone ever smoking a joint on the course before this thread, in the UK I would be amazed if I seen someone smoking on the course, and I wouldn't personally do it myself, because I'm pretty sure the majority of people wouldn't be happy.