I haven’t had the chance to read John Frame’s The Escondido Theology yet. If it is anything like what Dr. Frame has written before, it will be a very good book, I am sure.

In fact, I already know it is a very good book, even without reading it. How do I know?

Michael Horton told me about it. Or, rather, his reaction to Dr. Frame’s book told me how good the book is. I have never seen Michael Horton give such a chaotic response to anything. John Frame’s book must have caused a stir, and may be even panic in Escondido, and it certainly produced a strong reaction in Horton. I wish I was so eloquent as Dr. Frame. Alas, my articles against the Two Kingdoms Theology so far haven’t produced a response. That’s OK; Dr. Frame is older, wiser, and anyway, I learned – and I am still learning – from him and his peers. I am only an ambitious amateur compared to him. I am not jealous. (And I also have the suspicion Dr. Frame’s name makes for much easier spelling; which may be the reason my articles have been and will be spared from similar responses from the Two-Kingdoms crowd. I hope.)

Horton’s response didn’t tell me any new things about the Two Kingdoms Theology – in fact, he uses the same old arguments, most of them irrelevant. But it did confirm a suspicion I had about it, that in its essence it’s very close to what R.J. Rushdoony eloquently expressed as “intellectual schizophrenia.” It means that those who are not theonomists and who believe in a version of the Two Kingdoms Theology, eventually end up having a divided mind about many things. They hold to mutually contradictory ideas at the same time, and very often they are not even able to realize that the ideas are mutually contradictory. R.J. Rushdoony first used the words “intellectual schizophrenia” about the philosophy of modern education but later he applied it to the modern Christian theology as well.

And the words fit perfectly Michael Horton’s response.

It is a textbook example of intellectual schizophrenia, from beginning to end. It is full of contradictions and fallacies in every paragraph; sometimes two sentences back to back are contradictory without any explanation how they can be reconciled. Other contradictions are more strategic, they go across paragraphs. Then there are contradictions between what Horton says and what history really tells us. And indeed, there are also contradictions between what Horton says and what the Bible says – while claiming that that’s what the Bible says, of course.

Okay, okay, the reader will say, but where is the proof? Can you make an analysis of the whole response, Bojidar, and show us where the contradictions are?

Well, they are so many that if I needed to show them all, I would have to write a book; and writing a book about a short article is not advisable. But what I can do is pick a paragraph in Michael Horton’s response and show how in the same paragraph he intertwined multiple self-contradictions and fallacies, to the point of where nothing is clear and no logical conclusion can be drawn about what Michael Horton actually believes. I will show it about one paragraph only. The reader can do it with the other paragraphs as well.

Here is the paragraph I pick to demonstrate the intellectual schizophrenia of the Two Kingdoms Theology, straight from Michael Horton’s response:

Calvin embraced the “two kingdoms” doctrine explicitly—in those terms. Of course, it was the era of “Christendom,” where Luther no less than Calvin expected the civil magistrate to defend the true faith. Nevertheless, at least in theory, he made precisely the same arguments as Luther. I wonder if those sympathetic to theonomy or making America a “Christian nation” are really serious. Do they really want the White House or the legislative or judicial branches to enforce the first table of the law? Will orthodox Protestants be the only ones allowed to rule, or will a few Roman Catholics, Jews, and perhaps a conservative mainliner or two pass the Senate confirmation hearings? This is not to say that God’s moral law is no longer in force, that it no longer expresses God’s eternal measure of righteousness. Rather, it is to recognize that the New Testament teaches us to live as “strangers and aliens” in this present age, loving and serving our neighbors through our callings, witnessing God’s Word to them, and contributing toward the common good of a city that is important but never ultimate.

Let’s get started. Let’s take a look at the first sentence of this paragraph:

Hmmm. One doesn’t have to be a specialist on Calvin or the history of Geneva to know that there is something fishy in that statement. For example, that the cart goes before the horse, or, the conclusion before the proofs. If Calvin and Horton believed in the same doctrine, aren’t they also supposed to have the same practice? Calvin – not as an individual simply but as a church leader – participated in the building of Geneva as a society, with its legal, social, political etc. codes. Most of his time was not spent teaching a few students in a seminary but in giving expert advice – again, as a church leader – to the City Council. Is that what Michael Horton is doing? Is he giving political, legal, economic, social advice to rulers? Not at all. He actually encourages the church and the Christians to stay away from those issues. If the doctrine is the same, as Horton claims, why is the practice so different?

Even if Calvin used “those terms,” is it possible that he meant a completely different thing, and not the half-baked theology that Horton and the rest of the Escondido faculty have been using as a rhetorical device after 1995? May be we should go to Calvin himself and see what he meant by his “two kingdoms,” and whether it is the same thing as Horton would have us believe?

Strangely enough, we don’t even have to go to Calvin. Michael Horton himself provides us with the proof that Calvin never even meant what Horton means by “those terms.” And even stranger, Horton gives us the answer in the next sentence!

Luther no less than Calvin expected the civil magistrate to defend the true faith.

There goes Horton’s Two Kingdoms Theology.

Let’s see. Horton’s greatest bone of contention with the theonomists is that we believe that the civil government is supposed to obey the Biblical Law, and especially that there is such a thing as a Christian government which should protect the true faith. We will see later here, but one can also see it all throughout Horton’s writings that he opposes this particular tenet of theonomy: the obligations of the civil government to enforce the revealed Biblical Law. Horton has no problem with the moral law; he has a problem with it enforced by the civil government. That’s when theonomists are preaching it. But then he himself admits Calvin and Luther were teaching and preaching the same thing, and Horton says they had the same theology as him! Divided personality, anyone? Why is the same thing bad when modern theonomists teach it but good and acceptable when Calvin preaches it? Horton doesn’t say.

But he has an explanation:

Of course, it was the era of “Christendom,” . . .

What does that mean and why should it be relevant to the issue? Is Horton saying that Calvin and Luther were blinded by the historical stage they were in and therefore weren’t as enlightened as he is? Is he saying that our theology about civil government depends on historical stages and forces, and therefore what was good and acceptable for them is not good and acceptable for us? Horton shows his condescending attitude towards Calvin and Luther; “of course,” they couldn’t know better, living in the era of “Christendom.”

But why can’t the argument be reversed? For example: “Of course, the 20th and 21st centuries are the era of paganism, socialism, atheism, liberal theology, and general apostasy, and Michael Horton, influenced and blinded by all these evils, rejects the Biblical idea that the civil government must obey the revealed Law of God.” This would be a much better argument, rather than vice versa.

Horton’s condescension to Calvin is based on some vague argument about historical eras: well, yeah, y’know, their historical era made them believe those things. But how did they come to that historical era in the first place? Was it an inevitable development, independent of the beliefs and the practices of the Christians in previous generations? Or do ideas have consequences, and the “era of Christendom” was the product of the self-conscious beliefs and work of Christians who believed in Christendom? Could it be that the causation is the other way around: Not that Calvin’s expectations were caused by the era, but that the era was caused by the expectations of many generations of Christians?

Horton doesn’t even want to go there – and he never even touches that issue in any of his articles. Why? Because if he admits that the era of Christendom came about because of the work and beliefs of those who believed in Christendom he will have to come to another conclusions too: that the present era of paganism came about because of the beliefs of people like Horton.

So, in one sentence Horton says that Calvin believed the same things as him, then in the next sentence provides the proof to the contrary. Then again, suddenly, after the next period, he goes back again to his first thesis, denying completely what he said in his second statement:

Nevertheless, at least in theory, he made precisely the same arguments as Luther.

In what theory? And what arguments? Didn’t Horton just say that the two men believed things completely opposite to what Horton believes? And then, is he trying to say that, “at least in theory” they agreed with Horton? So, when they “expected the civil magistrate to defend the true faith,” that wasn’t “in theory”? What was it? Why did Calvin work to build Geneva into a City on Hill if “in theory” he believed the opposite? Is Horton saying that Calvin’s theory was just as opposed to his practice as Horton is opposed to theonomy?

Actually, what exactly is Horton saying? The three sentences so far make no sense whatsoever, when combined together. But this is not all. He has more in store for us.

I wonder if those sympathetic to theonomy or making America a “Christian nation” are really serious. Do they really want the White House or the legislative or judicial branches to enforce the first table of the law?

Oh, boy. These two sentences are just loaded with fallacies and self-contradictions. Be patient, we’ll go over the main ones only.

First of all, what kind of an argument is that? What is it based on? Does it appeal to the Bible, or to logic, or to history? What rule of logic, debate, or discussion allows for the use of such vague and nonsensical question, “are you really serious”? Is this what passes for an argument at Westminster West these days? And what exactly does Horton expect to achieve with it? Let’s suppose Horton faces a theonomic opponent in a debate (which may never happen since Horton has turned down multiple invitations by theonomists to debate; he is afraid of facing us), and uses this argument:

Horton: Are you really serious?

Theonomist: As a matter of fact, I am. I am really serious.

H.: Really really serious?

T.: Yes, really really serious.

H.: I mean, really really really serious?…

And so on. What does that tell us about Horton and his ability to debate?

If this is how the Westminster West professors debate, I can imagine a debate between two Westminster West professors who use it on each other:

First Professor: Do you really want that?

Second Professor: Yes, I do. Do you really not want that?

First Professor: No, I don’t. Do you really want that?…

Once a person stops laughing at the comedy such argument presents and decides to give a serious diagnosis of Horton’s “really-really” argument, he will have to conclude that it is an argument that is based on vague emotions, or on an attempt to arouse vague emotions. It says, “I have nothing of value to say so I will try to cause doubts in you by asking a vague question that makes no sense whatsoever.”

But this is not the only problem with it.

Remember, Michael Horton just admitted that Calvin expected the ruler to protect the true religion. But that’s the same as having a Christian nation – which Geneva was, by law – and enforcing the first table of the Law. So why isn’t Horton asking Calvin the same question? Whether Horton admits it or not, his “really-really” argument must be first applied to Calvin: “Calvin, do you really want the judges and the City Council of Geneva to enforce the first table of the Law?”

And Calvin, if he cared to reply to Horton, will say: “Yes, I really want that.” Horton admits as much himself, in the previous sentence. So why is Horton only asking the theonomists, and not Calvin?

But there’s more. The first table of the Law, that moral law that Horton is horrified that we as theonomists want to be enforced by the civil government, is actually the natural law. I believe it, and Horton believes it too because he says in another paragraph:

As Calvin reminds us, “The moral law is nothing other than the natural law that is written on the conscience of all.”

Fair enough. I agree, Calvin does say it. Moral law equals natural law written on our conscience.

But Horton has a problem here. He asks us if we “really-really” want to see the civil government enforce that moral law; he wonders if we are serious about that. But the moral law and the natural law are one. Therefore Horton is asking us if we really-really want to see the natural law enforced by the civil government!

But wait. Van Drunnen, Horton’s friend and co-ideologist, says that the civil government is ruled by the natural law; which according to Horton is the moral law; which according to Horton shouldn’t be the rule for the civil government. Let me try it the other way around, may be it will make sense this way. Horton says that the civil government shouldn’t enforce the moral law; which according to Horton is the natural law; which according to Van Drunnen should be the rule for the civil government.

Intellectual schizophrenia. The Two Kingdoms Theology is indeed a Divided Personalities Psychology.

And if not the moral/natural law for the civil government, then what law? Horton doesn’t say. Or, to ask a different question: If the civil government is to be ruled by the natural law which is also the moral law, then how is this different from what the theonomists want? Horton doesn’t say that either. He doesn’t even notice how deep a hole he has dug for himself.

There are many more fallacies and self-contradictions in that statement alone. But I will move on.

Two really-really questions are not enough, apparently. Horton is determined to show that really-really is the mainstay of Westminster West’s apologetics these days. So he adds a third one:

Will orthodox Protestants be the only ones allowed to rule, or will a few Roman Catholics, Jews, and perhaps a conservative mainliner or two pass the Senate confirmation hearings?

OK, the really-really is in a different form now but it’s still there: Are you really not going to let Roman Catholics, Jews, and conservative mainliners rule? Really-really?

What does that have to do with anything? Of course, political systems – or any government systems whatsoever – have rules for exclusion of certain persons. It has to do with the nature of the system itself. We have exclusion from rule in the United States today for certain people. I, for one, can not become a President because I wasn’t born in the US. And I can not run for certain political offices for several years. I am excluded. So what? Do I feel bad about it?

Keep in mind, my being excluded from political rule is not based on something I have self-consciously done. If I had the choice, I would have chosen to be born in Texas. But I was never given that choice. And I am now excluded from being a civil ruler because of something I had no control over.

Horton is not outraged by the fact that I am excluded from ruling because of something I never had control over but he is outraged that in a Christian government people will be excluded from ruling based on their self-conscious choice of religion? Can I change my birthplace if I wanted to become a President of the USA? No. In a Christian nation, can a Jew change his religion if he wanted to be a civil ruler? Yes, of course. So what is Horton’s problem, and why isn’t he much more outraged about the present system which seems much less fair in its exclusion than a Christian theonomic system of government? Schizophrenia, anyone?

And why would exclusion from rule be an argument in the first place? Is political rule a right that everyone deserves? Or even wants? Immigrants – legal and illegal – come to this country by millions. They could have stayed back in their countries where theoretically, they could participate in the civil government. If the right to rule was so important, why aren’t they staying there, why are they coming here where they will have no political rights?

Horton doesn’t go that far. All he needs is another really-really argument. That’s what Westminster West can offer.

Then, of course, the Bible comes to help; or rather, Horton’s loose quoting of the Bible:

This is not to say that God’s moral law is no longer in force, that it no longer expresses God’s eternal measure of righteousness. Rather, it is to recognize that the New Testament teaches us to live as “strangers and aliens” in this present age. . . .

The New Testament teaches us to live as strangers and aliens in this present age, you see. This is one of those beautiful myths of amillennialism that is meant to discourage Christians from being victorious. There are more like it: “royal exiles,” “constantly mourning by the rivers of Babylon,” etc.

There is only one problem: The New Testament doesn’t say, and doesn’t teach such a thing.

There are about a dozen instructions about living in the “present age” in the New Testament. Not a single one of them mentions anything about “strangers and aliens.”

There are a few instances of strangers and aliens. Not a single one of them is given as an instruction of “living in the present age.” The closest one is 1 Peter 2:11, “I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.” But does that mean Christians shouldn’t participate in civil government, or shouldn’t work to have a Christian civil government? Only if Horton believes that Christian civil government is a “fleshly lust which wages war against the soul.” But if he believes such a thing, then he must have a very strong indictment against Calvin and Luther too. Remember, he admitted that these two wanted the ruler to protect the true faith.

The Bible doesn’t say such a thing. What Horton has done is to arbitrarily take phrases that sound good, from different parts of the New Testament, and combine them in one sentence, give it the interpretation he wants, which fits his specific theology, and then claim that that’s what the Bible teaches. Take “present age” from one place, then take “strangers and aliens” from another, combine them, and then claim it means that we shouldn’t work toward a Christian civil government.

But he has a problem there. There is an example in the New Testament of “strangers and aliens,” and the text specifically says what these faithful “strangers and aliens” did. Hebrews 11.

The heroes in Hebrews 11 are presented as being “strangers and aliens” (v. 13). These people confessed they were “strangers and exiles on the earth.” They should be Horton’s perfect example, right? Well, not exactly, because the end of the chapter actually tells us that there is a sharp discontinuity between us and them – we are not strangers and exiles anymore, as the next chapters clearly shows. But let’s suppose – only suppose – that they are the example for “strangers and aliens” we have in the New Testament.

And let’s see some of the works of faith they did, in verses 33-34:

. . . who by faith conquered kingdoms, dispensed justice, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

Conquered kingdoms? Dispensed justice? Became mighty in war? Put armies to flight? I can see Michael Horton employing his really-really argument to these “strangers and aliens” in Hebrews 11: “Are they serious? Do they really want to conquer kingdoms? To dispense justice? To become mighty in war and put armies to flight? Really-really?” But that’s the example the New Testament gives us of “strangers and aliens.” If Michael Horton tells us that we are taught to live as such, why doesn’t he teach what works of faith those real “strangers and aliens” performed? Why is his version of “strangers and aliens” lacking those important works of faith, that faith by which “the men of old gained approval”?

Does Horton actually know what the New Testament really teaches?

I will stop here. I took one paragraph of Michael Horton’s response to Dr. Frame’s book, and showed the main fallacies and self-contradictions in it. Only the main ones; I left out many more. One paragraph took me a whole article. If I had to go through the whole piece, a book wouldn’t be enough. And there are also many other fallacies and self-contradictions that Michael Horton has written, which if they were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written. The Two Kingdoms Theology fits perfectly [with] Rushdoony’s description: intellectual schizophrenia. It can not run for more than a paragraph without entangling itself in at least a dozen self-contradictions and fallacies.

Jesus said …what?

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to alienate a man from his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." (Matt. 10:34-35; also see Micah 7: 5-6)

Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS!' (Matt. 7: 21-23)

"Well did Isaiah prophecy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' For LAYING ASIDE THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD, you hold the tradition of men. (Mark 7: 6-8)

Then His Disciples asked Him, saying, "What does this parable mean?" And He (Jesus) said, "To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that, seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand."

Likewise the soldiers asked him (Jesus), saying, "And what shall we do?" So he said to them, "Do not intimidate anyone or accuse falsely, and be content with your wages."

"Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you." (Jesus) Matt. 7: 6

Commandments/Traditions

"Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your Mother;' and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.'
But you say,'whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me has been dedicated to the Temple" -
is released from honoring his father...,
Thus you have made the [Commandment] Word of God of no effect by your tradition.
Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:
"These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips,but their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. [JESUS] (Matt. 15: 3-9)

Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good. (Romans 12: 9)

...let his prayer become sin. One who turns away his ear from hearing the LAW, even his prayer shall be an abomination. (Psalms 109: 7b)

“Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.” (1Corinthians 7: 19)

We have been saved to walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit, in order that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us. (Romans 8:4; paraphrased)

Righteousness and Justice

"Those who forsake the law praise the wicked,
But such as keep the law contend with them." (Prov. 28: 4)

"God is angry with the wicked every day." (Psalm 7: 11b)

"The wicked shall be turned to hell, and all the nations that forget God." (Psalm 9: 17)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord..." (Psalm 33: 12)

"For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men --" (1 Peter 2: 15)

"Keep back your servant also from presumptuous (many) sins; Let them not have dominion over me. Then I shall be blameless. (Psalm 19: 13)

"Whoever offers praise glorifies Me; and to him who orders his conduct aright, I will show the salvation of God." (Psalm 50:23)

"Here is the patience of the saints; who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." (Rev. 14: 12)

"One who turns away his ear from hearing the law,
even his prayer shall be an abomination." (Prov. 28: 9)

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." [Jesus] (Matt.: 5: 17-19)

The Law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. (Ps. 19: 7-9)

"For God has done what the Law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit"..."So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions"..."to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's Law..." (Rom. 8: 3,4; 7: 11,12; 8: 6,7)

"But go and learn what this means: 'I desire faithfulness and not sacrifice'..." Jesus (Matt 9:13,a)

"For You, O God, have heard my vows; You have given me the heritage of those who fear Your name." (Psalm 61: 5)

"He has given food to those who fear Him;
He will ever be mindful of His covenant.
He has declared to His people the power of His works,
In giving them the heritage of the nations.
The works of His hands are verity and justice;
All His precepts are sure." (Psalm 111: 5-7)

"You shall not follow a multitude in doing evil, nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after a multitude in order to pervert justice; nor shall you be partial to a poor man in his dispute...you shall not pervert the justice due to your needy brother in his dispute." (Exodus 23: 3,6)

"You shall do no injustice in judgement; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you shall judge your neighbor fairly."(Leviticus 19: 15)

"By justice a king builds up the land, but he who taxes heavily tears it down." (Proverbs 29: 4)

"Is it not for you to know justice? -- you who hate the good and love the evil." (Micah 3: 1b - 2a)

But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one Lawgiver who is able to save and destroy. (James 4: 11,12)

Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?(1)…Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more then, matters pertaining to this life?(2)…Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality(3), nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the Kingdom of God.(4) - (1 Corinthians 6: 2,3,9,10)

Scriptures on Scripture

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Tim. 3: 16-17)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.(2 Ptr. 1: 20-21)

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." (Jesus to disciples) John 14:26

"...He (the Holy Spirit) will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come." (Jesus to disciples) John 16:13

"as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his EPISTLES, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the SCRIPTURES."--- [ the Apostle Peter speaking about the Apostle Paul] (2 Peter 3: 15-16)

I will worship towards your holy temple and praise Your name for Your loving-kindness and Your truth; for You have magnified Your WORD above all Your name. ( Psalm 138: 2)

The Lord is well pleased for His righteousness sake; He will magnify the Law and make it honorable. (Isaiah 42: 21)

..."It is written, 'man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God.' [Jesus (Matt. 4: 4) quoting Deut. 8: 3]

..."did the Word of God come originally through you? Or was it you only that it reached? (1Cor. 14: 36)

"...by the Word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which now exist are kept in store by the same Word, reserved for fire until the day of judgement and destruction of ungodly men." (2 Peter 3: 5-7)

Apokatastasis

"Those from among you shall build the old waste places; you shall raise up the foundations of many generations; and you shall be called the repairer of the breach, the restorer of the streets to dwell in." (Is. 58: 12)

"And they shall rebuild the old ruins, they shall raise up the former desolations. And they shall repair the ruined cities, the desolations of many generations." (Is. 61: 4)

In that day sing to her,
“A vineyard of red wine!
I, the Lord, keep it,
I water it every moment;
Lest any hurt it,
I keep it night and day.
(Isaiah 27: 1-3)

And I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.” (Neh 2: 5)

"And they shall rebuild the old ruins, They shall raise up the former desolations, And they shall repair the ruined cities, The desolations of many generations." (Isaiah 61: 4)

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Heresies/ False Prophets

Your prophets have seen for you false and deceptive visions, they have not uncovered your iniquity, ...but have envisioned for you false prophecies and delusions! (Lamentations 2: 14)

"...there were false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgement has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2: 1-3)

"...and [God] turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed with the filthy conduct of the wicked ( for that righteous man dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)." -- (2 Peter 2: 6-8)

"I have written something to the church, but Diotrephes, who likes to put himself first, does not acknowledge our authority. So if I come I will bring up what he is doing, talking wicked nonsense against us..." (The Apostle John; 3 John v. 9-10a)

"...certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ... who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterword destroyed those who did not believe...just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones." (Jude v. 4-8)

Humanist Quotes

"The American people would never vote for socialism, but under the name of 'liberalism,' the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program. One of the traditional methods of IMPOSING statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can't afford it."
(Norman Thomas; American Socialist, 1927)

” The traditional institutions of civil society—especially faith-based groups, churches, and private associations—were a problem, from the progressive point of view, as they kept citizens focused on local communities rather than national ideals, and on “separatist dogmas” (read: moral convictions and absolute principles) rather than ideas of progress. The progressive solution to the “problem” of civil society was twofold. There was to be the “widest possible diffusion of secular knowledge” throughout society in order to check the influence of the moral and religious opinions propagated by these institutions. And there would be a general centralization of politics under the national government, as “removing control farther away from the ordinary citizen and taxpayer is tantamount to giving the intelligent, far-sighted and public spirited elements in society a longer lever to work with.”
Edward Ross
Principles of Sociology, 1922

"...Education is thus a most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American public school is a school of Humanism...what can the theistic Sunday-schools, meeting for an hour once-a-week, and teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of Humanist teaching?"
(Charles F. Potter; Humanism: A New Religion, 1930)

"When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side,' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already. What are you? You will pass on. Your decendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time, they will know nothing else but this new community.'"
(Adolph Hitler)

Quotus Americana

"I believe that our Heavenly Father invented man because He was disappointed with the monkey."
-Mark Twain-

George Washington
"I now make it my earnest prayer that God would...most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of the mind which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion.

You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are.
While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
by George Washington, 1st President of the U.S.A.

John Adams
"The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equality and humanity.

The General Principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
by John Adams, 2nd President of the U.S.A.

Thomas Jefferson
"I am a real Christian -- that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.
I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be; sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others.
The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.

The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He (God) has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts, that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses."
by Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the U.S.A.

James Madison
"I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and (who) are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare their unsatisfactoriness by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.

A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven."
by James Madison, 4th President of the U.S.A.

Benjamin Franklin
"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see."
by Benjamin Franklin, Signer of both, Declaration and Constitution of the U.S.A.

“Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards, there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine, a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy." -- by Benjamin Franklin.

Alexander Hamilton
"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.

You would be convinced, that natural liberty is a gift of the beneficent Creator, to the whole human race; and that civil liberty is founded in that; and cannot be wrested from any people, without the most manifest violation of justice.

I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me."
by Alexander Hamilton, Constitution signer, Secretary of the Treasury. Author of Federalist Papers.

John Hancock
"Sensible of the importance of Christian piety and virtue to the order and happiness of a state, I cannot but earnestly commend to you every measure for their support and encouragement.

Hancock called on citizens to pray: -- "that all nations may bow to the scepter of our Lord Jesus Christ and that the whole earth may be filled with His glory." And that, "with true contrition of heart we may confess our sins, resolve to forsake them, and implore the Divine forgiveness, through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ, our Savior...And finally to overrule all the commotions in the world to the spreading of the true religion of our Lord Jesus Christ in its purity and power among all the people of the earth."
by John Hancock, Signer of the Declaration; President of Congress and Governor.

Patrick Henry
"Being a Christian...is a character which I prize far above all this world has or can boast.

The Bible...is a book worth more than all the other books that were ever printed.

The great pillars of all governments and of social life (are) virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible."
by Patrick Henry, Constitution Ratifier, Revolutionary General, Governor of Virginia.

"There is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America." (Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835).

Interesting Quotes

"Christianity can not be caged into a church and confined like a zoo animal." (R.J. Rushdoony)

“It is not intelligence that makes men strong and independent, but rather faith and character.” (Rousas John Rushdoony)

"Hell is full of brilliant men." (M.R. Rushdoony)

"The conservative, fearful of the present and future, looks backward only. The revolutionist is also past-bound: his vision is one of destruction for the past and present and a static, unchanging utopia for the future. Neither is capable of growth, and victory then goes to those who destroy the most. Man in the state of grace is more conservative than the political conservatives: he has a surer grasp of the past and present because he assesses it in terms of the word of God. He is also more radical than the revolutionist because he has a principle of growth in him that requires continual change and progress in terms of the word of God..." Rousas John Rushdoony -- Pastor and Theologian

"I no longer believe that there is a moral majority. I do not believe that a majority of Americans actually shares our values ... I believe that we probably have lost the culture war. That doesn't mean the war is not going to continue, and that it isn't going to be fought on other fronts. But in terms of society in general, we have lost. This is why, even when we win in politics, our victories fail to translate into the kind of policies we believe are important."
Paul Weyrich, Christian Activist (1999).

I will confess to you, that the majesty of the Scriptures strikes me with admiration, as the purity of the Gospel has its influence upon my heart. Peruse the works of our philosophers; with all their pomp of diction, how mean, how contemptible, are they, compared with the Scriptures! Is it possible that a Book at once so simple and sublime should be merely the work of man?...It is possible that the person whose history it relates be Himself a mere man?...Where is the man, where the philosopher who could so live, suffer, and die, without weakness and without ostentation!...Yes, if the life and death of Socrates are those of a philosopher, the life and death of Jesus Christ are those of a God.
Jean Jacques Roussaeu (1712-1778) French Philosopher and Author; Quoted from Emilius and Sophia, Vol.III, Book IV.

Everything is good when it leaves the hands of the Creator; everything degenerates in the hands of man.
Jean Jacques Rousseau: from Emile; ou, De l’Education. (1762)

“It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy brings about man’s mind to religion: For while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity.” Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

“All things have sprung from nothing and are borne forward to infinity. Who can follow out such an astonishing career? The Author of these wonders, and He alone, can comprehend them.” - Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

“I have concluded the evident existence of God, and that my existence depends entirely on God in all the moments of my life, that I do not think that the human spirit may know anything with greater evidence and certitude.” - René Descartes (1596-1650)

“If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad.” C.S. Lewis (1898-1963)

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning. . ." C.S. Lewis (1898-1963)

"In a time of universal deceit—telling the truth is a revolutionary act" (George Orwell). Even if the whole world has gone mad, speak the truth anyway. It's the revolutionary thing to do.

"Right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is wrong about it" (G. K. Chesterton). Right and wrong have never been determined by majority rule or by societal trends or by public opinion. So do what is right because it is right.

"For we can do nothing against the truth but only for the truth" (the apostle Paul, 2 Corinthians 13:8). Kingdoms will come and go; giant mountains will crumble into the dust; the entire physical world will be shaken one day. But God's truth will remain stable and firm. Be sure to stand with the truth, not against it.

"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself" (Augustine). Be bold. Propagate the truth. Get the message out without apology. The truth will fight for itself.

"Courage is contagious. When a brave man takes a stand, the spines of others are often stiffened" (Billy Graham). Why not determine to be that brave man or woman? If you do this in your private life, you will soon be doing it in your public life. Perhaps you'll actually help spark a revolution.

"A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it" (G. K. Chesterton). Are you dead or alive? Then prove it by swimming against the tide and going against the grain.

"Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching" (C. S. Lewis). If you live to please God, you will never be disappointed. He sees your heart and He knows the truth, and when no one else is watching, He is watching intently.

"Cowardice asks the question, is it safe? Expediency ask the question, is it politic? Vanity asks the question, is it popular? But, conscience ask the question, is it right? And there comes a time when we must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because it is right" (Martin Luther King, Jr.). Now is that time. Enough said.

"The grass withers, the flower fades when the breath of the LORD blows on it; surely the people are grass. The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever" (Is. 40:7-8). Count on it. When the names of the most famous men and women of this generation are long forgotten, God's Word will be standing strong.

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away" (Jesus, Matthew 24:35). Count on this too. When the boasts and threats of radical Islam no longer exist, when the mockery of the new atheists is remembered with pity, when the voice of the hostile media is no longer heard, when Internet is looked at as a primitive antique, the words of Jesus will still be revered.

Consumerism…Consumption…

"The problem with any Communistic or Socialistic economy is that of capital consumption -- they consume capital rather than create capital. Eventually the capital runs out. Those who oppose capitalism claim it is a materialistic scheme which promotes consumerism. But, it is they who are the true consumptionists; who consume capital rather than create it!" RJR

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