NTs are Pickett and Raji. Pickett is the run stuffer, Raji is the pass rusher.

Honestly I thought that for a while... but has Raji been getting any pass rush lately?

I'm a big Pickett fan and think he's underrated but this DL doesn't seem to be getting the job done as whole. Don't get me wrong it's been decent to good at times. But there hasn't been any real stand out players the last two years, just consistently slightly above average guys...

And for the record I have noticed they have changed the defense some, being more conservative with the DL, protecting the LB more going to a more traditional 3-4 defense like the Patriots used to run. BUT even with Capers lets the dogs loose playing in the aggressive styles like he has the last couple of years... they not really getting too much pressure other than against bad OL (like the Lions RG, which they took a bad OL and made him look horrible.).

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I saw a ton of quick outs, sticks etc. None of our guys where getting any kind of seperation, though. Not that weird when they can constantly rush just four and get to Aaron in a second or three.

Exactly, I think that is what is being underlooked last night.. the receivers were getting handled in the jam and couple that with a defense that could let loose on the pass rush after we got down.. it was the perfect storm.

They and the rest of the NFL knows are MO.. we will abandon the run at some point if pushed. I had hope that we stick with it and stay patient. That pick was a killer that put a little panic in MM.

We are not as bad as that game indicated.. but we definitely have work to do. Cowherd called us frauds.. and beyond Rodgers a pathetic team. I hope those statements hit the locker room.. that and the late 4th down tries.

I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

We have a player who has never started at LG, a short term replacement(hopefully) at LT, and a player that has moved around the line since we brought him here at RT. And we went up against the best d-line in the NFL. Please, let's just throw everyone away. We could probably sign a better OL from the street. We could even bring back Clifton.

The Giants owned us last year when we had our most concrete line for years. Did we really expect to go in and dominate the trenches? There's one way to beat the Giants (and any other D as dominate as them), there must be some form of respect for the run. Balance is fine and dandy against the middle of the pack but having a quality run game is vital against teams like the 9'ers and Giants.

We may not see the Giants again this year. But if we do, I guarantee it will be a different team on our side of things for a couple of reasons-1) The return of players- including Ced2) A team that isn't apathetic- I believe our team came out entirely flat and read Randall Cobb said that after the game

We have a player who has never started at LG, a short term replacement(hopefully) at LT, and a player that has moved around the line since we brought him here at RT. And we went up against the best d-line in the NFL. Please, let's just throw everyone away. We could probably sign a better OL from the street. We could even bring back Clifton.

The Giants owned us last year when we had our most concrete line for years. Did we really expect to go in and dominate the trenches? There's one way to beat the Giants (and any other D as dominate as them), there must be some form of respect for the run. Balance is fine and dandy against the middle of the pack but having a quality run game is vital against teams like the 9'ers and Giants.

We may not see the Giants again this year. But if we do, I guarantee it will be a different team on our side of things for a couple of reasons-1) The return of players- including Ced2) A team that isn't apathetic- I believe our team came out entirely flat and read Randall Cobb said that after the game

1) Doesn't sound like Ced is going to be returning.2) Our team came out flat last year in playoffs. Our team came out flat Sunday in a game that they should have all been pumped for. Why are you sure they won't do the same shit again?

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