2008.10.25 07:00 - Real Me?

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Pia Iger was guardian and post this log.

Neela came in as a snow leopard. Much of our talk grew around that.

Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Pia!Pia Iger: Hi, Corvi, brb,Corvuscorva Nightfire: no hurryPema Pera is OnlineCorvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Pema!Pema Pera: Hi there, Corvi and Pia!Pema Pera: I'm still slowly rezzingCorvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Neela!Pema Pera: and you're still a glowing cloud for me, CorviPema Pera: Hi Neela!Neela Blaisdale: Hello everyone, Pema!Pema Pera: great skin, Neela!Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at Neela and scritches her white ears.Pia Iger: Hi, Neela, what a change!Pema Pera: :)Corvuscorva Nightfire: you found the hud controls?Neela Blaisdale: ty, we had quite a discussion the other night about appearances and av's. Made me think about trying different thingsNeela Blaisdale: yes found them!Corvuscorva Nightfire grins...yes...good.!Pema Pera is looking forward to Christmas time, when he may find time to play with avsNeela Blaisdale: :) actualy lots of fun, many choices. Another good thing about SL, the ability to choosePema Pera: definitely!Neela Blaisdale: I was talking yesterday with Fael about gender and av'sPema Pera: the only thing I need now is to find the time to be able to choose :)Neela Blaisdale: yes, time is precious

Changing our appearance can help us see the real self.

Neela Blaisdale: we were talking about how changing your appearance changes how you feel and how you actCorvuscorva Nightfire nods.Corvuscorva Nightfire: and how others act toward you.Pema Pera: I can imagine -- I've never been an animal yet, but it must make a big difference!Corvuscorva Nightfire grins a Neela, leaning on her a bit.Pema Pera: :-)Neela Blaisdale: Not sure yet since it's so new and you all know me as "the real" me but we'll seePema Pera: another "real me" added now!Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.Pema Pera: btw, yesterday we had a nice lunch in RL, with Stim and Adams and Fael and meCorvuscorva Nightfire: this is real, too, no?Pema Pera: sure it is, about as real as anythingCorvuscorva Nightfire: or as real as "Neela, girl"Pema Pera: :)Neela Blaisdale: Yes- which is the "real" one? which one is the "real" one?Corvuscorva Nightfire: yeahCorvuscorva Nightfire: exactly.Pema Pera: We talked about "who am I", among other things, during lunch, and yes, the question of who am I reallyCorvuscorva Nightfire: ah!Pema Pera: The original idea of the 9-sec practice was (and still is) very simple: drop what you have to see what you arePema Pera: not drop as in get rid of it, but drop as in drop your attachment to it, wear it lightlyPema Pera: and switching identities is a great way to learn to wear each one lightlyCorvuscorva Nightfire ndos.Corvuscorva Nightfire: yesNeela Blaisdale: SL helps by letting you practice!Corvuscorva Nightfire: indeed!Pema Pera: very much so!Corvuscorva Nightfire scratches Neela's nose.Neela Blaisdale purrsCorvuscorva Nightfire smiles.Corvuscorva Nightfire pulls a kipper from her pocket and tosses it at Neela.Corvuscorva Nightfire giggles.Neela Blaisdale: :)

Pema pointed to an unusual direction.

Pema Pera: Over lunch we talked about the difficulty of asking the question "who am I", since we are used to looking for an answer right away -- but the point may be to instead look for the one who is asking "who am I" instead of looking for an answer . . . a hard switch to make at first; sometimes called "turning the lights around" -- looking in a completely different direction than you may ever have doneCorvuscorva Nightfire thinks about this.Neela Blaisdale: yes. Seems easier to do that here, sometimes hard to do in RL when caught up in the day to day. the 9 sec helpsCorvuscorva Nightfire nods.Pema Pera: yes, little breaks seem to make big differences . . . .Corvuscorva Nightfire: any space makes a difference.Pema Pera: can you give some examples, perhaps, Neela, of how the 9 sec has helped in RL?Neela Blaisdale: well if feeling overwelmed, work, election, whatever makes me stop and change "heads", shuts off the "loop"Neela Blaisdale: then after I find I'm feeling very diferentlyPema Pera: yes, opening the loop can be a great relief!Neela Blaisdale: that's the immediate effect. In the long term I 've been feeling a much more intense "universal connection" for lack of a better wordCorvuscorva Nightfire looks at this with interest.Adams Rubble is OnlinePema Pera: can you say more, Neela?Neela Blaisdale: well I now think it is possible to feel conected to Being, although I always believed intellectually in the idea that we are all connected, now I feel it at times

So wonderful to hear what Neela just said!Adams entered.

Neela Blaisdale: Hi AdamsPema Pera: Hi Adams!Adams Rubble: Hello Everyone :)Pema Pera: That's a wonderful shift, Neela!Corvuscorva Nightfire: hi adams!Pia Iger: Hi Adams!Neela Blaisdale: yesPema Pera: That's the difference between just thinking/talking about philosophy and actually living it outPema Pera: I still marvel about the fact that the 9 secs somehow has the power to instigate that kind of shift . . . .Neela Blaisdale: and it's made me more patient at times, although patience is a hard one for me in generalPema Pera: very glad to hear that!Pema Pera: Adams, I mentioned our lunch with Stim and Fael yesterday, and the "Who am I" question. Let me quote what I said a few minutes earlier:ou: Over lunch we talked about the difficulty of asking the question "who am I", since we are used to looking for an answer right away -- but the point may be to instead look for the one who is asking "who am I" instead of looking for an answer . . . a hard switch to make at first; sometimes called "turning the lights around" -- looking in a completely different direction than you may ever have doneAdams Rubble: It needs patience tooAdams Rubble: Thank youAdams Rubble: In my case it seems I am asking on a number of levels :)Neela Blaisdale: I think everyone is?Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.Corvuscorva Nightfire: yesCorvuscorva Nightfire: you aren't alone, Adams.Adams Rubble: :)Pema Pera: :)Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's a hard hard question.Neela Blaisdale: the nice thing is it now feels very comfortable not to knowNeela Blaisdale: when I was younger I kept waiting for that absolute certaintyAdams Rubble: Somebody in me wants to know pretty badly right now it seemsCorvuscorva Nightfire nods...I hope I get there soon.Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to Adams.Corvuscorva Nightfire: yeahNeela Blaisdale: yes depends on the amount of discomfort it brings

Adams puzzled.

Adams Rubble: Pema, could this be related to an identity issue or is it different?Pema Pera: how do you mean, Adams?Adams Rubble: Well for some reason I have become uncomfortable. In the past few months that meant I was facing an identity or attachmentPema Pera: oh yes, can well be!Adams Rubble: There seem to be so many places to look for the discomfortAdams Rubble: Who is uncomfortable?Pema Pera: when we look deeper into reality, into what is, we have the tendency to protect our own identity -- we don't want to give up -- is this the kind of discomfort you are hinting at?Adams Rubble thinks "maybe"Pema Pera: we tend to get afraid . . . very understandablyPema Pera: If we explore a totally new city, we can get lost and that can be very uncomfortablePema Pera: where did I park my car? where is my hotel?Pema Pera: or "where is my wallet"Adams Rubble: :)Pema Pera: if someone picked your wallet -- not much fun!Pema Pera: BUT we are talking about something MUCH more uncomfortablePema Pera: where is my self, my identity?Pema Pera: loosing objects is one thing, but seeming to have to lose yourself, the subject, is far more scarier . . . .Pema Pera: *losingPema Pera: *scaryAdams Rubble: yes to the thoughtAdams Rubble: Instead of where did I park my car? the thought may be what is important to be doingPema Pera: so when you freeze up with that question, there are many ways to let that frozen block melt . . . for example, by giving up a tight grasping, as Neela said, or by looking into "who is asking" as you saidAdams Rubble: Is the job important?Pema Pera: sure it is!Adams Rubble: :)Pema Pera: but not the only important thing . . . .Pema Pera: and probably not the most importantAdams Rubble: yesAdams Rubble: I ask that because it seems to be interfering right now :)Neela Blaisdale: in what way?Adams Rubble: It is a bit of a nuissance....taking up time but as Neela has done, I must be patientAdams Rubble: I was thinkiing that on my walk this morning...no time :)Neela Blaisdale tries, doesn't always succeedPema Pera: the beauty of the 9 sec is that it doesn't have to interfere, at least time wiseAdams Rubble: There is no deadline to do this (whatever it is)Adams Rubble: Ah, yes the nine secondsCorvuscorva Nightfire smiles.Corvuscorva Nightfire: no deadline..the best part.Pema Pera smiles tooPema Pera: a lifeline? (sorry :)