Dunno, but I am so disappointed by him. And I just hope that Citroen won't say enough is enough, because we have a dominant driver again, and there is no chance anyone will challenge him if other manufacturers pull out.

I'll give Hirvonen the benefit of the doubt here; it's the first time he's crashed out in a long time. He does need to get his act together, though, because he simply doesn't seem fast enough to challenge Ogier.

I'm fairly sure that Citroen will pull out of WRC after 2014 or even 2013. They won't find another driver like Loeb and the Ogier + VW duo seems quite unbeatable right now.

How about this french dude I heard of... He's currently driving a Citroen DS3 R3 and he's quite fast... I remember his last name... Chardonnet... If only I could remember his first name... umm... oh yes, Sebastien.

How about this french dude I heard of... He's currently driving a Citroen DS3 R3 and he's quite fast... I remember his last name... Chardonnet... If only I could remember his first name... umm... oh yes, Sebastien.

He's not really that special. In WRC3 guys like Riedemann and Cronin are beating him with pure speed. Then there are lots of drivers who derserve a shot: Hanninen, Abbring, Paddon, Meeke, etc.

But at the moment there is nobody who can jump in a DS3 and start winning immediately. I still have faith in Hirvonen winnig at least once this season though, and Sordo on tarmac has always been a nice combination.

He's not really that special. In WRC3 guys like Riedemann and Cronin are beating him with pure speed. Then there are lots of drivers who derserve a shot: Hanninen, Abbring, Paddon, Meeke, etc.

But at the moment there is nobody who can jump in a DS3 and start winning immediately. I still have faith in Hirvonen winnig at least once this season though, and Sordo on tarmac has always been a nice combination.

You guys are taking potential drivers from WRC3 but there is someone closer, kubica in WRC2?

He is in his first proper year of rallying, he's not (yet) ready to be a factory driver in WRC. The guys I meantioned have a lot more experience and are at a higher level than Kubica at the moment.

experience is super important no doubt. but kubica was testing with solberg and latvala another day and from the rumour was faster. if he can be faster than those 2 especially latvala, it is not that sure that the guys from WRC3 are at higher level than kubica ?

experience is super important no doubt. but kubica was testing with solberg and latvala another day and from the rumour was faster. if he can be faster than those 2 especially latvala, it is not that sure that the guys from WRC3 are at higher level than kubica ?

Contrary to what he says, Mikko sounds anything, but calm regarding his future. Can you see him replaced at the end of the season? And if so, with whom. I can't see any such driver at the moment, well apart from this one of course.And what about Dani who is arguably doing even worse this season...

Contrary to what he says, Mikko sounds anything, but calm regarding his future. Can you see him replaced at the end of the season? And if so, with whom. I can't see any such driver at the moment, well apart from this one of course.And what about Dani who is arguably doing even worse this season...

I don't see Citroen changing both drivers. And Mikko will always have a bigger potential to challenge for the title than Sordo. Maybe they could get Neuville back?

I say get over it and drive to the conditions. He is used to F1 where light drizzle is often causing a SC period or even a red flag, due to "bad visibility". Yes, the conditions were ridiculously bad and yes, there should've been 2 min gaps instead of 1, but he made it through by driving slower, driving to the conditions and it's yet another rallying lesson for him. A valuable one at that.

As long as it is only the problem of the pace, then you are 100% right I guess. But remember, that there were people on the road, not expecting a car and not seeing it. I think it could have been a massive, massive **** up.

I say get over it and drive to the conditions. He is used to F1 where light drizzle is often causing a SC period or even a red flag, due to "bad visibility". Yes, the conditions were ridiculously bad and yes, there should've been 2 min gaps instead of 1, but he made it through by driving slower, driving to the conditions and it's yet another rallying lesson for him. A valuable one at that.

Heh, he did exactly that and won the rally (in WRC2 class).

But I think more drivers than Robert said that 1 minute gaps are a bad idea.

SS2/4Time difference between runs: 3 hours 3 minutesStart time of the first car: 10.46/13.49Start time of the last car: 12.28/15.31Finish time of the first car: 10.47/14.00Finish time of the last car: 12.45/15.48

Time difference between the last car to finish SS2 and the first car to start SS4: 1 hour 3 minutes

The most important part of this example is the last one:

That is way too short gap between runs, and it doesn't include the maximum stage time. In that 1 hour period they have to run the safety cars, followed by the zero-cars.

So in short, 2-minute gaps between cars might be good for the drivers on the stage, but it would be extremely problematic for the organisers, who would have to make the days start earlier and end later. In Sardinia Friday started with a sevice at 6.30 and ended with a service at 22.30, that's 16 hours. With two minute gaps, they'd have to either make the gaps between the runs longer, which isn't good for anyone or they'd have to shorten the rally, which also isn't good.

Selected onboards shot from Kubica's car, he really wasn't exaggerating when he was talking about visibility! (bit at 0:07: "do you see anything?" "no", "we need to go slower" says the pilot right before the end).

It'd be brave, certainly - it's the fastest rally on the calendar. To have to adapt to a significantly faster car is hard enough, but to do it during Rally Finland would make it more so. Let's see if those rumours materialise.