Honor wrote:Yeah, how much more powerful is the PS4 than the Xbone? I'm looking for an objective and measurable answer.

I tried looking up the stats but if it doesn't look like it'll be easy to make a direct comparison, like (2ghz vs 1.7ghz) etc. I don't really want to spend alot of time trying to decipher it.

This will probably sound lame, but one of the main reasons I want to stick with Xbox is because I spent alot of time getting achievements and a high gamerscore and I'd prefer to keep using that profile. But if the PS4 is significantly more powerful, in addition to being cheaper, I might have to reconsider.

Yeah I haven't seen any definitive stats either, but I've read that the PS4 could be as much as 50% more powerful. However, will that actually show through in a game? It'll be a year before you see a game that even attempts to make use of that extra power, and even longer to fully exploit the PS4's capabilities. But even then, since 3rd party developers want to make as much money as they can on cross-platform titles, will they bother taking advantage of all of that extra horsepower if it means they have to do more work on the PS4 version of a game over the Xbone version? In many cases, likely not.

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Again, by virtue of being an AMD APU, the Xbox One and PS4 GPUs are technologically very similar — with the simple difference that the PS4 GPU is larger. In PC terms, the Xbox One has a GPU that’s similar to the (entry-level) Bonaire GPU in the Radeon HD 7790, while the PS4 is outfitted with the (mid-range) Pitcairn that can be found in the HD 7870. In numerical terms, the Xbox One GPU has 12 compute units (768 shader processors), while the PS4 has 18 CUs (1152 shaders). The Xbox One is slightly ahead on GPU clock speed (853MHz vs. 800MHz for the PS4).

In short, the PS4′s GPU is — on paper — 50% more powerful than the Xbox One. The Xbox One’s slightly higher GPU clock speed might ameliorate some of the difference, but really, the PS4′s 50% higher CU count is a serious advantage for the Sony camp. Furthermore, Microsoft says that 10% of the Xbox One’s GPU is reserved for Kinect. Games on the PS4 will have a lot more available graphics power on tap.

Beyond clock speeds and core counts, both GPUs are identical — they’re both based on the Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture, and thus support OpenGL 4.3, OpenCL 1.2, and Direct3D 11.2. Another big difference between the two consoles is the available memory bandwidth — but we’ll discuss that in the next section. Details are fairly tenuous at this point, but we believe that the Xbox One — via Direct3D and GCN — will support AMD’s Mantle API. This gives developers lower-level access to the bare metal of the GPU, potentially improving performance. We don’t think the PS4 has access to the same resources.]

Why does Microsoft keep trying to shove the fucking Kinect down our throats. I don't want it. Give me the extra 10% GPU power you fucks. I don't want to watch TV through my xbox, I don't want to use Kinect, I don't want to listen to music through my xbox. I want to fucking play video games with it. Jesus

So I finally used my PS4 for a game. The new Tomb Raider was pretty fun. I enjoyed that.

I also like the fact that the PS4 (and maybe XBone, too) will do the updates in the background. No more sitting and waiting as you can still use the system/play the game while updates are being downloaded and installed.

I still haven't seen anything release yet that makes me want to plunk down the cash. Even stuff that's "coming soon" looks rather meh. There's a few neat concepts here and there, and warmed-over 360/PS3 ports that look nice, but nothing that makes reach for my Mastercard.

_________________"When you go looking for something specific, your chances of finding it are very bad. Because of all the things in the world, you're only looking for one of them. When you go looking for anything at all, your chances of finding it are very good. Because of all the things in the world, you're sure to find some of them."--Darryl Zero, Zero Effect

I want to get a PS4 and an XBone. For Assassin's Creed and Forza 5 respectively.

yes, yes, I know Unity's going to be on XBox too, but all the rest of my AC titles are on PS3, so I may as well keep it with the family.

I've started bouncing back and forth between Forza 4 and Skyrim again. Both are fun games. Still need to get Forza up to date on DLC's though.Also, anybody got an extra CRZ I could bum off you one of these days?

Silent Hill has been so underwhelming for so long, I'm skeptical, but I hope it ends up being good.

_________________"When you go looking for something specific, your chances of finding it are very bad. Because of all the things in the world, you're only looking for one of them. When you go looking for anything at all, your chances of finding it are very good. Because of all the things in the world, you're sure to find some of them."--Darryl Zero, Zero Effect