@BC You're reading something I didn't intend in there. Still, you already know the advantages and disadvantages of with or without mirrors, and you know I'm still primarily a Canon user so I have no hatred of mirrors here.

I guess my point is, what if you want to offer the mirrorless experience, but don't want or can't create a new lens lineup for it? You lose the possible size reduction and keep with SLR lenses. If you're aiming higher end anyway, the size isn't critical, and maybe even turn it around to pack in more "stuff" like a half decent battery size...

It cannot be a K-mount FF DSLR body, but a K-mount FF product line. And Ricoh Imaging started introducing the first products from this K-mount FF product line this spring: the D FA 150-450mm, and more recently the 24-70mm (a 70-200mm is delayed for last-minute changes).

Quote:Samsung did EVERYTHING wrong. And they even tried it with DSLRs before going mirrorless ...

" I don't think Samsung did everything wrong at all"......(it was just that it took a while to finally get it right)......which in boardroom terms was too long........otherwise you could say the same about Sony........Sony went through a ton of directions and models before they "fell" upon the right route and now they are on track all that doubtless frighteningly expensive route is starting to pay dividends......

Samsung did the same with many uninspiring cameras until the NX1....in my view they were on the threshold of having created a winning formula....but financially someone in the Boardroom decided to pull the plug....maybe the difference was that Sony had lost so many of it's markets with TV/computers that they knew they had to go the course with something.....Samsung has been gaining!

I've some hopes for the division., but they are hopes!

Pentax on the other-hand is a company that had it all and allowed it to slip away and are now showing how hard it is to retrieve it all back. This FF DSLR will sell to die hard Pentaxians who have legacy lenses, but their new FF optics are sparse and not cheap. Unless they can pull the rabbit out of the hat with their new body it's going to be a struggling attracting new buyers from Canonikon land, without talking about their constant delays.

Well, Dave, the question is, will you give up your Nikon to go back to Pentax? Anybody willing to pay for Pentax FF? I mean, not the usual "if they offer this or that, I'll jump the boat!" - no "ifs" please, just, "hell yes, I've been waiting for Pentax all the last ten years, now I already preordered, even

if the lens choice is not that big and third party lenses are dated or unavailable

if all other accessoires are made for Canon or Nikon or from Sony

if all RAW converters will take a little while to go Pentax - or I decide to use this fat DNG file format which usually wastes more disk space than anything else around except TIF

if it remains questionable into which future we're steering: 60 year old mirror concept or mirrorless right now?"

Pentax once had gorgeous offerings for Professionals, the whole LX system was sort of on par with a Nikon F3 or better - but not many were interested. I don't know about the market share and for sure I'm not always happy with Nikon's decisions. But if it comes to Pentax, I'm done. Made my experiences and sold the whole stuff, never looked back. The screen is very innobative IMO - but that's just one detail. At least and after decades, articulated screen made it into a Nikon Pro DX, so it IS cool and usefull. But you're too late, Pentax. Again.

The 15-30 is a "Pentax"-labelled Tamron (except the WR-part? Is the Tamron originally weather-resistant?) Doesn't have to be a bad thing. What Leica can do with brushed up Panasonics and Hasselblad with Sonys, Ricoh can also do. I just don't think, servicewise it's a cool idea. One lens to Pentax, the other to Tamron.

USB 2.0 is a joke, a pretty bad one, too. And the rest are nice specs. Just: who cares about another FF DSLR?