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"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols.""Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?""Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

IvCNuB4 wrote:The Old Doctor is Cat-Scratch ?Well that explains a lot :lol:

Yes, but the Vikings were rapists and pillagers. I'd like to see Thor, but in good conscience, I cannot allow my entertainment budget to go towards supporting a violent figure from a religion from a culture that mercilessly slaughtered and raped other cultures just because they had bad-ass battle-axes and swords.

Luckily, I do not think the Vikings will see any of the profits from the movie's box-office returns, but make no mistake, going to see Thor is just like raping and pillaging the Saxon coast. Just sayin'.

"You must be proud, bold, pleasant, resolute,And now and then stab, as occasion serves."

Strict31 wrote:Yes, but the Vikings were rapists and pillagers. I'd like to see Thor, but in good conscience, I cannot allow my entertainment budget to go towards supporting a violent figure from a religion from a culture that mercilessly slaughtered and raped other cultures just because they had bad-ass battle-axes and swords.

Luckily, I do not think the Vikings will see any of the profits from the movie's box-office returns, but make no mistake, going to see Thor is just like raping and pillaging the Saxon coast. Just sayin'.

Vikings are part of my cultural background. But it has more to do with the fact that I read the back back in the 80s and never thought it would make a good movie. That and I'm a Thor fan. Seeing Natalie Portman slap Loki. See others slap Loki. Thor being Thor. Sif swinging swords and hating on Jane. Kat Dennings.

"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols.""Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?""Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

IvCNuB4 wrote:The Old Doctor is Cat-Scratch ?Well that explains a lot :lol:

Straw man. The Vikings aren't still around doing those things. Card is still around, and could very easily use his newfound prominence to write an article calling for gays to be imprisoned or to fund an organization bent on preventing gay marriage.

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Straw man. The Vikings aren't still around doing those things. Card is still around, and could very easily use his newfound prominence to write an article calling for gays to be imprisoned or to fund an organization bent on preventing gay marriage.

Straw man. Card is, actually, on record saying that fighting against gay marriage is over now a, that the recent DOMA ruling rendered that fight a "moot point", so he's not likely to pick up weapons again.

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Straw man. The Vikings aren't still around doing those things. Card is still around, and could very easily use his newfound prominence to write an article calling for gays to be imprisoned or to fund an organization bent on preventing gay marriage.

Again, I'm not sure if you're using the terms you're using in the manner they were actually meant. And you are participating in a slippery slope fallacy in any event. Card does not need any further prominence to write any of his articles; he's already done so.

And let's be honest; the only reason the Vikings aren't still doing this is because battle-axes are no longer the most efficient method of global policy change.

But at the same time, I was unaware there was a statute of limitations on atrocity. I will now inform all Jews that it's time to get over the Holocaust. I have already spoken to all black people about the matter of getting over slavery. But take heed, heterosexual white males; you only have five years left to be outraged at your marginalization from society at the hands of Obama.

"You must be proud, bold, pleasant, resolute,And now and then stab, as occasion serves."

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Straw man. The Vikings aren't still around doing those things.

So you advocate being culturally insensitive in the representation of them? Sorry Jude, you are not being politically-correct enough here--the latest gen of pretend-activists I see on the campus recently shamed one of their own out of dressing as Cleopatra for not-Halloween.

Not sure how I feel about this personally. I don't support his views, but don't know that I can find it in me to hate the man for them. I'll probably see Ender's Game later, I've read the book long ago (it was great) and my youngest boy read the book and loved it as well. For me, the messages in Ender's Game were good and I'd much rather see those messages spread than try and promote a cause against Card which brings more attention to his personal messages (and I'd much rather see my kids reading more books that they find interest in).

As for those personal messages, he has stated that the fight for what he believes is lost and seems to have put it aside. I doubt he has changed his mind on anything, but this is usually how social change happens - the older/stuck in their ways people get moved aside and progress occurs as time goes on. If I hated Card for his beliefs, I'd have to hate my own dad as well and I can't find it in my heart to do that, despite some of their bigoted beliefs. Let them stay in their closed worlds, the rest of the world is moving on.

Strict31 wrote:This demands further investigation. I suggest we table the discussion for now and reconvene after we've examined the financial impact upon the Key Grip (and all the Grips he or she supervises).

What about all the Best Boys? And are there Worst Boys? And isn't that all sort of sexist? Shouldn't there be Best Girls?

And wouldn't that be patronizing and more than a bit anti-woman? Shouldn't it really be Best Woman and Best Man? Though the latter might lead to some confusion in wedding movies, so it should really be Best Person.

And won't all the ordinary grips feel bad? Shouldn't they all be Key Grips?

Achilles is the kind of evil that hollows out a volcano for a lair, and sends killer robots after his enemies.---Lord Simian

Strict31 wrote:I refuse to seer this movie because a white woman with big breasteses once refused to let me put sex into her butt.

You really should not have been using Psivage on her then.

"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols.""Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?""Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

IvCNuB4 wrote:The Old Doctor is Cat-Scratch ?Well that explains a lot :lol: