The survey by TR as posted by XB101 is more valid, I think. The Dunlops are the better tire, just slightly.

LOL I hope you are kidding, more valid???? There is no scientific approach, it is subjective evaluation. Tire discussion can be like politic or religion discussion but I don't really rely on This Tirerack results IMO because comments depend on the region, type of car, driving experience and exposure to other brand of tire, so many variable. This is just another source of information.

For example, sorted by winter performance, the Blizzak LM25 are fairly high and I used them 6 years, these are the worst tire in snow or ice!! Dry and wet were fine. Who's right, me or those results? This is similar to Trip advisor, you have to be careful.

Protegez-vous used a scientific approach and experts in this area with real tests in the condition of our region! I am not saying they have the truth but this is more credible.

LOL I hope you are kidding, more valid???? There is no scientific approach, it is subjective evaluation. Tire discussion can be like politic or religion discussion but I don't really rely on This Tirerack results IMO because comments depend on the region, type of car, driving experience and exposure to other brand of tire, so many variable. This is just another source of information.

For example, sorted by winter performance, the Blizzak LM25 are fairly high and I used them 6 years, these are the worst tire in snow or ice!! Dry and wet were fine. Who's right, me or those results? This is similar to Trip advisor, you have to be careful.

Protegez-vous used a scientific approach and experts in this area with real tests in the condition of our region! I am not saying they have the truth but this is more credible.

Suit yourself. No problem for me what you believe to be superior. Both good winter tires.

I looked at the TireRack survey. It's worthless, because it's just the opinions of various consumers (You only drive one car, and keep winter tires 2 to 3 years. How can you compare any two sets?).

I looked at the link that I posted, under "methodology". It's also a survey (!) of "tire vendors non affiliated with any brand". Sadly, this seems worthless to me too.

ConsumerReports.org is a richer organization, and they can afford to run real scientific tests. I just subscribed minutes ago (for $26/year!). They say the "Nokian WR G2" is the best "performance winter tire". The Pirelli and the Dunlop score exactly equally in everything that concerns me, but the Dunlop gets a slightly better "noise" rating.

If you don't need performance winters then the Xice is a good choice. Consumer Report have em rated highest. Personally I think I will go with regular winter tires. I dont drive that fast in the summer yet so winter I should be good to stay behaved.

Thx for the tip. I'll check it out. Personnaly, i would stay with runflats for winter. Dont want to be stucked with a flat and no equipment. Dont know how roadside assistance would react to a flat with non-run flat tires.

Pierre and his wife live in central Canada. One winter morning the announcer on the radio says, "We are going to have 8 to 16 centimeters of snow today. Make sure you have snow tires and park your car on the even numbered side of the street, so the snowplow can get through."
Pierre’s wife goes out and moves her car.

A week later while they are eating breakfast, the radio tells them, "We are expecting 10 to 20 centimeters of snow today. Make sure you have snow tires and park your car on the odd numbered side of the street, so the snowplow can get through."
Again Pierre’s wife goes out and moves her car.

A few days later as they are having breakfast the radio announcer says "We are expecting 12 to 24 centimeters of snow today. Make sure you have snow tires and park.... snap, crackle, buzz" The power goes off and the radio's dead.

Pierre's wife is very disturbed, and says to her husband, "Honey, I what should I do? I don't know which side of the street to park on so the plow can get through."

He responds, "Why don't you just leave the car in the garage this time?"

Finally made my choice, all a matter of taste but it will suit my needs. Negotiated hard and got it for 2000$ all taxes in (~1750$ CAD before tax). 245/50/18 Dunlop Wintersport M3 with RTX Berlin BMW replica wheels.

Finally made my choice, all a matter of taste but it will suit my needs. Negotiated hard and got it for 2000$ all taxes in (~1750$ CAD before tax). 245/50/18 Dunlop Wintersport M3 with RTX Berlin BMW replica wheels.