On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 12:33 +0200, hjh at mail.fsub.de wrote:
> - 'Master pages' = ? - continued, but more general -
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>> Hedley, developers and users:
>>> A nomenclature is important for easy understanding. I suggest :
>> Document: In comparison:
> Scribus OpenOffice
> English - German English - German
>> templates - Vorlage Templates - Dokumentenvorlage
>>> Mastering the documents:
>> masters - Matrizen Styles+Formating - Formatvorlagen
>> page masters - Seitenmatrizen page styles - Seitenvorlagen
> paragraph masters - Absatzmatrizen paragrah styles - Absatzvorlagen
> line masters - Zeilenmatrizen
> list styles - Listenvorlagen
> character styles - Zeichenvorlagen
> frame styles - Rahmenvorlagen
>> "master" is the perfect English term. The master masters a page, a paragraph,
> etc.The Webster (edition 1994) says:
> 3: controlling the operation of other mechanism (e.g. master cylinder)
> 4: establishing a standard for reference (e.g. master gauge).
>>> To use "page master" instead of "master page" stresses, what the function
> is, namely "mastering".
>>> "master" means "ruling". There is no equivalent in German, I think, which
> could we used here. In German "Mutter" (mother) is a possible solution, which
> means "stems from" (e.g. Mutterbaum, Mutterpflanze). In the printing trade
> there are in the German nomenclature two terms, that stem from Latin "mater",
> (Mutter, mother):
>> 1. Mater = a mould for a founding patterns for printing
> It was positive, as the printing block had to be negativ.
>> 2. Matrize = a stencil, positive, the ink was pressed through or
> those, where the printing colour was imposed on the back
> and then used with a kind of alcohol for copying
>> These techniques are gone. Laser copies or digital (offset) printing we use
> instead. But we could save the term by using it.
>> Of course we could use the same terms as OpenOffice. But scribus is a
> professional tool and therefore we might / should use special terms.
>> But anyway - "Musterseiten", the word I started off, is not an adequate
> term: Either "Seitenvorlagen" oder -preferred- "Seitenmatrizen".
>>> Does this mail reach the developers, too? I think, they are important
> in coining terms.
I still like "Foundation Layer" (since you are always building your page
on that most important "foundation") instead of "Master Page" or "Page
Master" but more important than my personal preferences is what would
print houses think of such a term, as we need to communicate with them
as well.
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