Thrallmar

The expedition sent through the Dark Portal by Thrall has built a stronghold in Hellfire Peninsula. Thrallmar serves as a base of operations for much of the Horde's activities in Outland.

Reputation

Reputation for Thrallmar up to Honored is relatively easy to earn. Even the easiest quests (those that take you from one quest giver to the next up the road, for example) can yield 75 reputation points, while those that require some effort to complete typically yield 250 reputation points or more. Some group quests that involve killing an elite can yield as much as 1000 reputation points.

Neutral through FriendlyReputation from mobs in Hellfire Ramparts and Blood Furnace stops at 5999/6000 friendly. One option is to grind reputation via Ramparts and Blood Furnace runs to 5999/6000 before doing any Thrallmar quests outside the instances, as those continue to yield reputation up to Exalted.

Friendly through HonoredPlayers that enjoy PvP can earn Thrallmar reputation through the daily quest Hellfire Fortifications. This quest awards 70 silver and 150 Thrallmar reputation, but can only be completed once a day and counts towards your 25 daily quest limit. Completion of this quest also yields three Mark of Thrallmar, which are used as currency for various types of items and gear when turned into Battlecryer Blackeye and the Horde Field Scout in Thrallmar and near Zabra'jin in Zangarmarsh respectively.

Blood Furnace and Ramparts instance runs will be your best bet for this reputation bracket, but they'll only take you to the end of Honored.Revered to ExaltedFrom this point on, gaining reputation through Exalted requires one of two things:

Access to Shattered Halls, one of the wings of Hellfire Citadel, which requires level 68.

Doing Heroic versions of Hellfire Citadel dungeons.

Both of these give reputation until you reach Exalted status. A full clear of Shattered Halls nets you about 2000 reputation points, trash mobs generally yield 6 or 12 each, with up to 150 points from bosses. Heroic trash yields 15-25 points, with bosses worth more.

Tip: You can purchase Thrallmar Favor from Battlecryer Blackeye for use during instance runs to speed up the reputation (and experience) gaining process!

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Comment by Cohle

You can receive Thrallmar Rep up to 1 rep point short of Honored by doing Hellfire Ramparts, the first instance in Outland, alone. Most of the mobs in Hellfire Bloodfurnace, the second instance only give rep to 1 short of Honored as well. There are imps in the later part that will give you rep to push you into Honored and will give rep into Honored. The last five man The Shattered Halls, the instance is a lot higher level, but will continue on towards Revered.

For those looking to get their rep up the best it is easy to run the first two Hellfires to Honored then do the quests to make it easier to get to Reveered.

Comment by kreghx

Thrallmar is an eponymous Horde outpost found in Hellfire Peninsula, Outland. It was founded and led by Nazgrel, commander of Thrall's security, as an opportunity to gain resources and to have a decent control over what's going on in this demon-infested area. The residents of the town form a faction of its own; reputation is raised by performing quests for them. These quests generally involve killing Fel Orcs in Hellfire Citadel.

Comment by Acidburn

Apparently its not possible to get to Revered without entering The Shattered Halls, thus before beeing 70 (or very close to it). Even if you get Honored in lower instances and do Peninsula quests later, you will endup beeing at around 8-10k into honored.

Comment by Xukimonde

I am currently about 1,000 into Revered - however, this was attained before the change to the Hellfire Fortifications RRQ.

Presumably, the Heroic-mode instances will allow reputation to be attained from kills (or at least bosses) up until Exalted. I will attempt to confirm this within the next couple of days.

Comment by emorphous

Shattered Halls will give about 2000 rep, 2500 if you pop 2 thrallmar favor tokens (depending on how long it takes your party).

Comment by arjung

Shattered Halls gives exactly 1450 rep if the 7-pack pull right before the tunnels is skipped.

Comment by Siolayani

Has anyone tried sitting in the tunnel in shattered halls and killing the spawns. Only 2 rep each, but you could do it forever. Think it's worth it or just get through as fast as possible rinse repeat?

Comment by Metro

Yield 5 rep for kill from Neutral to Friendly if you're looking to speed up the process when you can't run Ramparts or Furnace.

Additionally you will get rep for killing the Herald in Ramparts even if you subsequently wipe to his dragon mount. On Heroic he yields 250 per kill so if you don't mind repair costs it's an optional way to rep up quickly.

Comment by smack80

So what is the total amount of quest XP, not including Hellfire Fortifications?

Comment by Megami

I went into Hellfire as a newly leveled 60 after BC, I did the first 4-5 quests to get some gear so I wasn't a noob and then proceeded to do Ramparts and BF until Honored (turning in only the quest from Ramparts to get the vials from BF). I did every quest that gave Thrallmar rep after getting Honored and ended with 8069/12000.

When you get 70, do the Shattered Halls key quest which is another 850 rep. If you don't do any quests before starting the instances it is VERY possible to get over 9k into honored when you are all done. Then you only need to run a few Shatterred Halls to get revered. (Probably only 2 runs if you stock up on Marks of Thrallmar first)

Comment by Deltronz

I'm 11151/12000 at lvl 62

Grinded to friendly from the bonechewer orcs outside hellfire citadel

Grinded to honored from ramparts/blood furnace

Did all the quests from hellfire citadel = 1 shattered halls run from revered at level 63 :D

Comment by Smacchio

Hellfire Fortification give 150 reputation with Thrallmar!!!

Comment by Kathucka

If you're desperate enough at level 70, you can two-man your way to revered.

In addition to the daily Hellfire Fortifications quest (150 reputation), you can farm the first orc in Shattered Halls.

Right as you enter Shattered Halls, a pack of orcs will move into position near the entrance, with the Shattered Hand Legionnaire in front. They are not linked, so it can be single-pulled and killed for 12 rep. It takes two characters to kill it safely. Some of the other orcs in the pack can also be single-pulled, but they do not grant any reputation.

After the first Legionnaire is dead, reset the instance, and repeat. Doing this 1,000 times will take you from Honored to Revered. It's faster with a Thrallmar Favor, of course.

Comment by FroRev

"Blood Furnace and Ramparts instance runs will be your best bet for this reputation bracket. Be aware though, that they will only take you to the end of honored. You will need to run Shattered Halls to reach revered status."This paragraph is misleading. The "end of honored" implies 11999/12000 honored rep. Those first two instances will only take players to the end of friendly.

Comment by Nothgrin

As with my expercience I would like you guys to know that if you want Thrallmar rep dont wait until your 70 to get it. As people have said before you want to leave quests for the very end. First do all of the instances you want. The reason for this is when you get to 70 you no longer have acces to Blood Furnace and Ramparts in your LFG menu. This makes it tougher to find a group for it. Next Shattered Halls groups are much rarer so you wont be running that many times. So do as many Blood Furnace and Rampart runs as you can before it dissappears from your LFG

Comment by tasharina1

I was extremely disappointed to find that none of the level 63 mobs on the path outside Hellfire Citadel gave any Thrallmar rep.

I tried killing the level 63 grunts, neophytes, captains all along the road up to the Citadel and never received any Thrallmar faction.

Perhaps they changed it, but I just wanted to let people know it is a waste of time to try to get rep off of the lvl 63 mobs on the path to the Citadel.

Comment by Jehoiakim

I just did my grind, without doing any quests and grinding instances till 5999/6000 friendly. From here I was able to hit revered by doing quests alone.

My reputation total does NOT include any of the following:-The daily dungeon quests (if they were for Hellfire instances)-The PvP 'Hellfire Fortifications' quest-The Magtheridon head turn-in quest -The two Stattered Halls dungeon quests from Thrallmar-The Shattered Halls 'timed' quest in the instance

My reputation total DID include the following:-Any other Thrallmar reputation quest-The 'elite' or 'group' quests like 'Foot of the Citadel'-The 4 quests for the lower level Hellfire dungeons (2 each for Ramps and BF)-The Shattered Halls 'key' questline

This netted me a total of exacly 12070 reputation, which put me 69 points into revered. Yes I did include the Shattered Halls key questline, but frankly, it is easy to do with a bit of help. If you can get help to do the "Foot of the Citadel" or "Cruel's Intentions", then this is easy. Since many people grind the mobs around Black Temple for the Shattered Sun daily, I just rode in and killed him. Even if the area is teaming with mobs, just unequip your gear, ride as far as you can and then die near the quest NPC on the small hill by the forge. Once you rez and kill the npc, you can then do the turn-in and only the final part (killing a fel reaver) is needed. That can be easily soloed by waiting near the camp outside the east end of Thrallmar with the group of elite NPCs. Wait for a fel Reaver to pat nearby, and then just run him into the NPCs. Yeah you may die, but you do NOT need kill credit. Just damage the Fel Reaver as he is being killed, then use the corpse when it dies.

The other option if you don't/can't do that key questline, is to do the Hellfire PvP daily quest 6 times. The Shattered Halls key chain is worth 850 rep, so you would need 900 rep from the PvP daily, @150 rep a day, means 6 days.

The key here is that all of this can be done without setting foot in Shattered Halls. Of course, good luck on the grind to exalted...

Comment by blackjack90631

In patch 3.2 you can now use this rep for a discount on your EPIC FLIGHT COST (Level 300 Riding)

1. Thrallmar Rep - Wind Rider Jahubo located in the Southern part of Thrallmar behind the <Stable Master>.

Comment by DELJAGStow

If I recall correctly, and I might not, The Riding trainer is unique in that it goes by your home faction OR Thrallmar. If you're already exalted with Org, for example, it will be the 4000G cost.

Edit: Ah, I was wrong. It uses Org reputation. Found the blue post on MMO-Champion.

You guys are correct, we reduced the expert riding skill price in 3.2.2 to 225g. We also changed the faction discounts for the riding skill vendors in Honor Hold and Thrallmar to use Stormwind and Orgrimmar faction.

There are a couple reasons we made this change. First off, we wanted expert riding to be available to more people at level 60. 600g just did not seem like a reasonable expectation for most level 60 players to have when they roll into Hellfire Peninsula. Especially after purchasing your level 60 skills. The second change, regarding the factions just made a lot more sense this way since you will not have any Thrallmar or Honor Hold faction when you enter Hellfire.

Finally, I want to apologize for this change not making the patch notes. We strive to get every change we make into the notes but this one somehow slipped by. Once again, my apologies on that, but hopefully the lower price will help make up for it.

Comment by anathor

A bit more info for lvl 80s who would want to raise this rep to exalted (since it's part of quite a few achievements).

I started this roughly 3.5k into revered, so I'm not sure how to raise it to revered at the moment: I would guess soloing Ramparts until it doesn't give any more rep, then possibly doing all the quests if you haven't done so already (unlikely).

Once you are revered Ramparts norm and Blood Furnace norm won't be giving you reputation any longer. You will have to go either to heroic versions, or Shattered Halls norm. I have found the latter to be the easiest way. There are nice, big pulls conveniently placed for LoS pulls (since it was the only way to do this instance as a fresh lvl 70 in the first place).

I did it as a moonkin and it was surprisingly easy, the mobs don't hit too hard (way less than in heroic Ramparts for example). Damage can be tricky since quite a few mobs in there have interrupts, which prevents hurricane or can lock you out of Wrath spam. The trick is to use Starfall, which has been buffed recently and will clear a whole pack of these mobs in a matter of seconds. Glyph for Starfall and you have a nuke on a 1-minute CD.

I cleared everything until the gate to first boss (didn't care to do the tunnel), all mobs are worth 12 rep except the fel orcs (non-elites) worth 2 rep. All in all it's roughly 500 rep for clearing all the trash until 1st boss, which isn't too bad for pressing the Starfall button 10 times :)

Lather, rinse, repeat... (or in wow-talk: go out and reset)

Comment by niculbolas

If you are level 80 and want a fast and very cheap way to hit Thrallmar exalted... Go to Heroic Ramparts, clear everything up to the last boss. Kill the two sentinels, then kill the orc that gets off of the dragon and you'll get 250 rep for killing him. Instead of killing the dragon, run out of the instance to reset it, go back and kill the orc for 250 rep until you are exalted... ;) Very lame way to hit exalted but it works =D

Comment by Optimalised

You don't need to exit, just kill the dragon, run over the bridge and the orc will reset and respawn after 20-30 seconds, giving 262 rep + 16(x2) for the dragon + sentinels.

Saves running in/out every time.

Comment by tobindax

It's not that fast. But it makes a good faceroll session. No need to pay that much attention to the game to repeat it blindly.

Comment by QuoVadimus

great mindless tactic. broke the monotony with some pvp ques. love to see the dragons pile up like that.

Comment by meowmix435

Amazing loophole! I found the best way to do it is to solely focus your attacks on the dragon, as mentioned above. When the dragon dies just run back over the bridge without doing anything to the rider and the whole boss will reset in about 25 seconds.

Also, make sure you are on Heroic when you do this so you don't waste 20 minutes trying to figure out why it won't work haha.

I did this alone as a level 85 Holy Priest so it's definitely feasible for any level 85 and probably most level 80 and up.

Comment by randaline

As a level 85 troll hunter, I did heroic runs of the Ramparts, Blood Furnace, and Shattered Halls. I recorded the time it took me to run through each dungeon, the rep gain, and the money earned from selling greys/whites/soulbounds (i sent all the greens/primal nethers/netherweave to my alt so they don't count) I had the guild perk but no Thrallmar Favor.Hellfire Ramparts:17 minute run71 gold earned2221 total rep gained

Shattered Halls:18 min run108 gold earned2819 rep gained

Blood Furnace:15 min run93 gold earned2838 rep gained

This means that the total rep gained from all 3 heroics is 7878 points.To get from revered to exalted using these heoics, it would take 21000/7878 points, or 3 days (rounded up from 2.66), in under an hour each day.Plus, you can do the loophole mentioned above for additional rep

Hope this helps!

Comment by zoomgofstr

After reading this post I went over to try this out. I started at/around 10000 Revered with Thrallmar and repeated killing Nazan as described until exalted, approx 44 times. obviously, Nazan and Vazruden the Herald respawned everytime. I also had on the Bilgewater Cartel Tabard and received exalted with the Bilgewater Cartel.

Comment by Rwalters

As a level 85 feral druid, I was able to pop thrallmar token for +25% rep. I managed to clear all three heroic instances with 5 minutes left on the +25% rep buff.

Comment by Fizzlestix

Can confirm that this works as of 4.3.2 as well! Make sure to get Vazruden to like 22k health so you can kill Nazan instead. For some reason it's way easier to reset the fight with orc alive than with the dragon, at least that's what I experienced. Also, remember to drop your guild banner in the vicinity. I put mine between the two guards, but I guess it doesn't really matter. With that, combined with the guild perk, I ended up with 19 x 2 rep from the guards, and then between 317-319 (iirc) from the orc or dragon, depending on who you decide to kill. Not bad considering the time and effort you have to put in to get it!

With love,Fizzlestix

Comment by oscarucb

Easiest way to farm this reputation at level 85:

1. Do all the Hellfire Peninsula quests2. Run each of the instances on heroic and do all the dungeon quests3. This will leave you partway into honored, and the only way to reach exalted in reasonable time is instance kills. 4. The most efficient means to gather the remaining kill rep is to farm heroic Vazruden in Hellfire Ramparts. He gives 250 base rep (before bonuses), and after killing him you can reset the fight without killing his mount Nazan, and Vazruden will respawn in about 30 seconds. You can reset the fight using class specific means (vanish/invis/shadowmeld) or simply by jumping onto the ledge with the braziers to the left of the top of the stairs, making the dragon evade. Using a Battle Standard and an Thrallmar Favor you get about 350 rep per kill, and can easily farm out 20k in an hour.

Comment by Azrile

At 85, if is fairly even on what is the fastest way to get to exalted.

There is the Ramps trick below where you reset and grind the last dragon boss fight. ( it is faster if you ignore the orc and just pull the dragon using a ranged attack).

But in reality, if you have a class with a decent AOE attack ( I used druid cat swipe), you can run normal mode shattered halls and get almost the same Rep per minute.

For me, it really came down to looting. If I stopped to loot, Ramps-dragon was faster, if I didn´t loot, shattered halls was faster rep. But I think it just comes down to playstyle and ´exploiting´. Some people would probably prefer running an entire dungeon rather than just killing one mob over and over again. There is also the issue of this maybe being a bug, and exploiting it could risk your account. Very very unlikely, but still something to consider.

Comment by xvalusx

It appears that for me as of 5.0.5, Nazan does not give any rep. The only way I was able to get rep via boss resets was by killing Vazrudan and running out of the instance. If I hopped down into that broken ledge that leads back to the entrance, Nazan would follow me down and I could not evade him.

Comment by johnmully

So I did this today and it took me about 4hrs starting at 90%honored finishing quests and running all 3 heroics saving ramparts for last. I did this on a lvl90 hunter with pet put on defensive. After clearing everything in ramparts up to the last guy I found this out you MUST tag Nazan to do little damage not to kill him then you kill vaz and fein death or run up ramp an jump down and exit, I would bet that vanish or other similar spells might work as well to save you from running out all the time. Fein death worked perfect nazan phases out in seconds. It takes exactly 30 sec for the 2 to respawn plus the last 2 guards and I was getting 275 rep each time guards didn't give me anymore rep but still got loot. Oh go with empty bags

Comment by nahkhaz

What is the dragon head (bluish) that appears in the center of town from time to time? Who does it represent?

Comment by ZeeStorm

I didn't see this mentioned before, however it appears that (at least the only one I've tried) Hellfire Ramparts allows you to do soft resets to reset all trash. I've cleared the instance (locked 3/3 according to raid lockout), and have come back in 4 times today doing instance reset / left and came back after an extended period of time, and all trash has respawned. If you're not able to vanish / feign death / etc., this is a great alternative to get quick Thrallmar rep, you just don't get the nice bonus rep from killing the bosses. Enjoy!

Comment by Cabalos

since killing dragon in hellfire ramparts doesn't work anymore i believe running trash on heroic blood furnace will be the most efficient way. just kill the trash and run back to entrance. you got around 900 rep for every run and it clear very fast

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Comment by Xoizin

You get around 2k exp for a full clear of Shattered Halls (Normal mode) and much more than that for 1 HC run.

One HC run is a mindless task of picking up groups of mobs and running to the last boss.

From revered>Exalted this will take you around 11 runs (5 mins each), give or take a couple thousand exp.

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The alternative to this is killing the Orc final and boss over and over and then reseting the instance so he's rekillable.

One run is a task of reseting the instance, looking where you're going and not killing the dragon, this only grants 250 rep for the kill, and the other method no longer works, so you have to run out and run back in.

From revered>Exalted this will take you 80+ runs (5 mins each) of looking where you're going and actually caring about what you're doing.