tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2483266089915697450..comments2018-03-19T21:32:36.589-05:00Comments on Althouse: The NYT reports that "officials involved" in hiring Elizabeth Warren "all said that she was hired because she was an outstanding teacher, and that her lineage was either not discussed or not a factor."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger115125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81004684389328850092012-05-15T20:30:50.789-05:002012-05-15T20:30:50.789-05:00Ann,
I noticed that you&#39;re not really much of...Ann,<br /><br />I noticed that you&#39;re not really much of a scholar in any sense of the word. To what extent do you think that you were hired because the University of of Wisconsin Law School needed a few more women on the faculty? You certainly didn&#39;t get hired because of the merit of your thoughts.GetRealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468796144202040467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77230545278845825972012-05-02T10:51:21.021-05:002012-05-02T10:51:21.021-05:00@sleepless nights
&quot;In any case, Elizabeth Wa...@sleepless nights<br /><br />&quot;In any case, Elizabeth Warren has made some really good and prescient moral calls on a national level, so I really do see this as nothing more than an attempt to destroy her by her enemies - bread and circuses for the 24/7 news cycle as well.&quot;<br /><br />So, in other words, the ends justify the means. You could have saved yourself a lot of typing.TomBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06602288608435640097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62064090105732055082012-05-02T08:58:27.549-05:002012-05-02T08:58:27.549-05:00@Penny - could even be Bajoran. Lord knows I like ...@Penny - could even be Bajoran. Lord knows I like earrings. But I don&#39;t have a a little bump over my nose...kimschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742219426291395677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2461095499159402472012-05-02T07:27:34.396-05:002012-05-02T07:27:34.396-05:00Re: William:
All of my grandparents and, so far a...Re: William:<br /><br /><i>All of my grandparents and, so far as I know, their parents before them were born in America. Yet there&#39;s a part of me that feels ill at ease and slightly out of place in America</i>.<br /><br />Eh? I don&#39;t think <i>any</i> of my ancestors set foot in the US before 1900. I may not particularly feel like one of you aboriginals, but I don&#39;t feel particularly ill at ease in America. This land is <i>mine</i>.Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65222863263665672542012-05-02T00:11:34.368-05:002012-05-02T00:11:34.368-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71155880100527764252012-05-02T00:10:57.211-05:002012-05-02T00:10:57.211-05:00&quot;The land was ours before we were the land&#3...&quot;The land was ours before we were the land&#39;s.&quot; There&#39;s another explanation for all this family lore of Indian ancestors..... All of my grandparents and, so far as I know, their parents before them were born in America. Yet there&#39;s a part of me that feels ill at ease and slightly out of place in America. &quot;There&#39;s nothing that is quite your own, and yet this is you.&quot; People may claim Indian ancestry as a way of giving roots to their identity. American culture is as ephemeral and shape shifting as a Lady Gaga costume. In America the endless shock of the new can cause convulsions. We need grounding to dissipate the currents. If one&#39;s own culture doesn&#39;t offer such grounding, then make one up. Indian heritage seems an excellent way of declaring a primal right of access to the VIP room at the strip club.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1574220645016141582012-05-01T23:52:34.349-05:002012-05-01T23:52:34.349-05:00&quot;That 4% could be anything though.&quot;
Kim...&quot;That 4% could be anything though.&quot;<br /><br />Kimsch was apparently lucky by birth.<br /><br />Way to go, girl!Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-130965337087285442012-05-01T23:16:17.042-05:002012-05-01T23:16:17.042-05:00I was part of the Ancestry beta DNA testing. The t...I was part of the Ancestry beta DNA testing. The tests reveal that I have 45% from the British Isles, 29% Scandinavian, 22% Central European, and 4% unknown.<br /><br />Now, my father&#39;s mother&#39;s mother was from Denmark, born of Danish parents so I should be 1/8 Danish (Great Grandma 100%, Grandma 50%, Dad 25%, me 12.5% but DNA will tell I guess.<br /><br />The Ancestry DNA doesn&#39;t tell where exactly: So I don&#39;t know how much Irish, Scottish, English, and Welsh there is. I know the Central Europe is Germany and Alsace, France. The Scandinavian is Danish.<br /><br />That 4% could be anything though. Native American, African, Asian, who knows...kimschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742219426291395677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19000070711227104652012-05-01T22:07:51.307-05:002012-05-01T22:07:51.307-05:00Since this story broke, I&#39;ve been paying close...Since this story broke, I&#39;ve been paying closer attention to my friends and am starting to suspect some of them might be gaming he system with sketchy claims of &quot;minority status&quot;.<br /><br />Like my blue-eyed, blonde haired friend named Sven RedFeather. I think there is a chance that his grandma was not really a Cherokee Princess.ALHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05023019485249109646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15372721216004630022012-05-01T21:55:32.691-05:002012-05-01T21:55:32.691-05:00The Aussies have been piddling about concerning th...The Aussies have been piddling about concerning the degree of &quot;blackness&quot; necessary for a claim to Aboriginal ancestry. A current storm squall is being played, beginning here:<br />http://bunyipitude.blogspot.ca/2012/04/these-jokers-always-with-gags.html<br />Previously, a senior news columnist lost a defamation case:<br />http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/andrew-bolt-x-racial-vilification-court-case/story-e6frg996-1226148919092<br /><br />CheersMinicapthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13421626155178200181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71407021485319032912012-05-01T21:13:17.087-05:002012-05-01T21:13:17.087-05:00That&#39;s exactly what Elizabeth Warren did.
And...That&#39;s exactly what Elizabeth Warren did.<br /><br />And I fault her for not being a better TEACHER, when the spotlight was recently turned to her.<br /><br />Harvard was snookered.<br /><br />Let&#39;s see if Massachusetts&#39; voters are.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20356567424163240512012-05-01T21:02:46.596-05:002012-05-01T21:02:46.596-05:00Anyway, since we&#39;re talking about Affirmative ...Anyway, since we&#39;re talking about Affirmative Action &quot;minorities&quot; in this thread, you want some long term gains on the things closest to your heart?<br /><br />Step - away - from - PREDICTABLE.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4139801815224414532012-05-01T20:42:14.224-05:002012-05-01T20:42:14.224-05:00Cedarford, that rings true to my eyes, and I dare ...Cedarford, that rings true to my eyes, and I dare say, that the very same thing happened in NJ when enough bright blue state voters pulled the lever for Christie.<br /><br />Ha ha<br /><br />That&#39;s the best thing about a democracy.<br /><br />&quot;DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?&quot;Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88128329963121213472012-05-01T20:25:32.566-05:002012-05-01T20:25:32.566-05:00Elizabeth Warren made a video:
&quot;I&#39;m an I...Elizabeth Warren made a video:<br /><br />&quot;I&#39;m an Indian too&quot; from &quot;Annie Get Your Gun.&quot; And here radio jocks used to play &quot;Oklahoma&quot; to make fun of her, well she better get used to this one:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEZPs06Sgwtim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57096340913183258132012-05-01T19:53:28.072-05:002012-05-01T19:53:28.072-05:00If you really need &#39;bonus points&#39; then jus...If you really need &#39;bonus points&#39; then just claim to be an homosexual for as long as you need it. It isn&#39;t like there is a test, and you don&#39;t have to try out, like for the football team.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9417240121553490072012-05-01T19:51:18.750-05:002012-05-01T19:51:18.750-05:00The amusing thing is geneological records are larg...The amusing thing is geneological records are largely fake. There is too much to be gained from the &#39;right&#39; connection, and too easy to make up relationships when you have to go from one to another up the chain.<br /><br />A researcher did it the other way. He picked out a famous Zulu woman who had 11 children, and traced their descent. One was Pieter Botha, president of South Africa, and leader of the &#39;Oxcart Wing&#39; of the Nationalist Party, the one that pushed apartheit forever. That such a man could actually be &#39;Colored&#39; of mixed race kicked the stuffing out of racial purity devotees. The South African Racist Republic fell soon after.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86292436536936940672012-05-01T19:44:09.023-05:002012-05-01T19:44:09.023-05:00&quot;People forget what life was like before Goog...<i>&quot;People forget what life was like before Google. What your parents told you about your ancestry was pretty much all there was to it.</i><br /><br />Exactly. I was told my whole life that I was part French, Welsh, German and English.<br /><br />I got on Ancestry.com (which is amazing) and within a few hours had traced my lineage back to Germany in the 1600&#39;s on both sides. 100% German, despite being told otherwise for my whole life. <br /><br />It&#39;s amazing what that website does. Very cool how it uses thousands of other peoples&#39; research to very quickly hook you up with your own. It&#39;s a multiplier effect that works great. You quickly find records, even photos of ancestors or their tombstones that others have found in their own searches. <br /><br />Some people on there work it tirelessly and you get to take advantage of that.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6469411329632501802012-05-01T19:43:11.097-05:002012-05-01T19:43:11.097-05:00&quot;I thought &quot;Indian&quot; and &quot;Nativ...&quot;I thought &quot;Indian&quot; and &quot;Native American&quot; were offensive. Isn&#39;t the politically correct term currently &quot;undocumented Asian&quot;? &quot; - Scott M<br /><br />Hey you watch that mister!<br /><br />I&#39;m Asian but not a Bering Sea Pedestrian!<br /><br />:)edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11554432958239793555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63349325769486685462012-05-01T19:41:56.195-05:002012-05-01T19:41:56.195-05:00If her father was one, she would be a half.
If her...If her father was one, she would be a half.<br />If her grandfather was one, she would be a quarter.<br />If her great grandfather was one, she would be an eighth.<br />If her grandfathers&#39;s grandfather was one she would be a 16th.<br />If her great grandfather&#39;s grandfather was one she would be a 32nd.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20276689502383461842012-05-01T19:33:59.167-05:002012-05-01T19:33:59.167-05:00&quot;Hey, but who else might be cheating, claimin...&quot;Hey, but who else might be cheating, claiming minority status that&#39;s not really true? Now, now, you&#39;re not supposed to think about that. It&#39;s quite unseemly, isn&#39;t it? Impolite.&quot;<br /><br />Hey, I get it! Obama!leslynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04976589297868178854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38263497774056936852012-05-01T19:26:07.111-05:002012-05-01T19:26:07.111-05:00As for university hiring committees, we recently h...As for university hiring committees, we recently had a hiring pool for a new hire. The Dean practically wet his pants when he figured out &quot;no matter who we choose it&#39;s a diversity hire, and two of them are &quot;twofers&quot;!!&quot; [Little did he know that one of them is a &quot;threefer&quot; or he probably wold have wet his pants.JorgXMcKiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509568525555189690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35639255796455849132012-05-01T18:01:42.795-05:002012-05-01T18:01:42.795-05:00I compare Warren with my nephew. He is not only mo...I compare Warren with my nephew. He is not only more Native American Indian than Warren (1/8th), but those Native American Indian roots are Hispanic. Yet - to the dismay of my sister who is footing the bill- he refused to check the Hispanic box on his college forms. Not because he is ashamed of his heritage, but because he was/is embarrassed to call himself &quot;Hispanic&quot; when he looks white and can&#39;t speak Spanish.<br /><br />There are a lot of Americans more &quot;Indian&quot; than Warren (like my 1/16 Cherokee husband), who would never think to game the system for their own advantage. I think my nephew&#39;s reaction was correct. Warren should be embarrassed.Just Lurkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46079338473547146922012-05-01T17:57:40.586-05:002012-05-01T17:57:40.586-05:00If she were good enough, she wouldn&#39;t need the...If she were good enough, she wouldn&#39;t need the handicap. That&#39;s all I need to know about Ms Warren. Actually, that&#39;s all I need to know about affirmative action.MarkDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386529130897728870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79008709365202126292012-05-01T17:42:00.091-05:002012-05-01T17:42:00.091-05:00My own take on Massachusetts as a one-time residen...My own take on Massachusetts as a one-time resident is that the electorate is largely devotedly loyal Democrat yet more conservative than some of the top leaders. <br />Periodically, when the Dems get too leftist for the voters, they &quot;award&quot; them a Republican as a rebuke. Weld, Romney, Scott Brown.<br />The party bosses in Boston have gotten more liberal than the mainstream again, wanting Harvard Law to be the approver of candidates for high office...and more insistent on a largely white state that ONLY minorities have the moral legitimacy for the highest offices.<br /><br />Harvard Law put the &quot;Approved&quot; stamp on the never-elected Martha Coakley and Scott Brown beat her. Warren is another &quot;she is one of us Brahman elites, it&#39;s time she got the SEnate Seat Harvard wants her to get&quot; candidates.<br /><br />I think voters in Mass are tired of it, and think Scott Brown is &quot;more like them&quot; than Kerry, Deval, Coakley, Warren..<br /><br />And for lots of white households in Massachusetts, even loyal Dem working whites - racial and other minority preferences denied them and their children is a real sore point.Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38660336853098036012012-05-01T17:39:34.150-05:002012-05-01T17:39:34.150-05:00Ann, I&#39;ve done some looking into your question...Ann, I&#39;ve done some looking into your question: &quot;who was the next person?&quot; Possibly Gerald Torres, who like Warren was a U. Texas tenured prof, and who visited at Harvard around the time Warren did, but who was one of the minority prospects not given a tenure offer, according to this recent article, page 7 &amp; note 102:<br /><br />http://harvard.academia.edu/PhilipLee/Papers/889385/The_Griswold_9_and_Student_Activism_for_Faculty_Diversity_at_Harvard_Law_School_in_the_Early_1990s<br /><br />Torres is a Yale law grad who also has degrees from Stanford and Michigan -- much more impressive than Warren&#39;s academic credentials. And he&#39;s a REAL Native American who actually teaches law related to Native Americans, as a glance at his bio (and his photo) shows:<br /><br />http://www.utexas.edu/law/faculty/gtorres<br /><br />http://www.law.yale.edu/faculty/GTorres.htm<br /><br />Maybe Torres eventually did get a tenure offer from Harvard, and turned it down. But if not, maybe he&#39;s the identifiable victim -- if Harvard wanted to boast of having a Native American and hired Warren instead of Torres, that really says something about Harvard, and about the &quot;diversity&quot; scheme in general.Badger PUndithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07408558223824723405noreply@blogger.com