Ok so we had a lot of great posts about this subject I'll try to put most of our thoughts in one place...

There is a big difference between what women say they Want and what they Need. The men who give women what they Need- win over the women. Different women have different needs.

A relationship or 'love' is only an exchange of value- the man gives value to the woman and the woman gives value to the man. You can change the word value to Needs (the men has needs and the women has needs and they are both giving each other what they need).

and finally we touched it a little bit here too:http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=816see peregrinus's post:
"It does not have to be money sniper.
It will be something she is lacking in, money is just a symbol.
For some emotion, for some fun, for some helping someone, for others other things.
I used to know a guy who lived in his car for a year or so, absolutely no money....."

Now remember that some guys can offer specific women the exact emotional value that they are lacking so they will win over those girls even if they are bums. For some women material value is more importent (like gold diggers) so they will go with someone who has money and status. A lot of Asian women from Thailand and the Philippines love white men because being white from the west is looked upon as high status in those countries (even if you are not so rich) so when a Thai or a Filipino woman marries a western white man- it elevates Her status.

"women are emotional so they flip flop and change their minds a lot. I'd rather have my own shit together so that I will not be depended on some woman's mercy.
This way I have the power and choice and if I'm with a woman and she leaves me:
I have no problem cause I offer a lot of value and there are plenty of other women to choose from..."

thus, the more value you have- the more options you have\ more women you can choose from...

I always come back to this thread because it's about all human interactions (not just women....). Anyone new on the forum:
If you take just one thing with you from this place remember the 'value theory', it will save you a lot of pain.

Thank you for everyone who contributed to this thread

_________________"a sniper is the worst romancer, he never makes the first move"“Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive” \ Robert M. Pirsig

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