Well, while there may be instances of dog loyalty the thing that I don't like is how fabricated Seymore was. Suddenly out of nowhere In season 4 Fry remembers, "Oh, yeah I had a dog...even tho I kept quiet about it for 4 years." But Hell, at least they did it once and then were done with it, and not OVER and OVER again like some other shows (and movies) I care not to mention.

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Oh, you know FOX delayed Futurama for exactly that reason - so they didn't have to look dumb for cancelling an Emmy-winning show

If your claim is correct they were trying not to look dumb cancelling a 3-time emmy award winning show. How they ended up was cancelling just a 2-time emmy award winning show.

Originally posted by CyberKnight:Of course, the PC vote, as [-mArc-] hinted at on CGEF, probably swung it.

Please do not blame me or my people for this tragedy. I'm gay and Jurassic Park still would've gotten my vote.

Well, I didn't blame any person really. Neither do I have a problem with gay people at all. The thing is that the Simpsons picked up a topic which is heavily courted especially in LA. It's not the first time that they won the Emmy with an episode about gay people, if I remember correctly (1997). It could've been about several other fightworthy things, and still I'd say they didn't think much about helping this fight when they submitted it to the Emmys. You'll notice how some song called "We are all children of this world" or any such won the best song award. Personal agendas of the jurors certainly show at the Emmys and the Simpsons crew is well aware of that.I call blunder in their intend to submit, not the topic at hand.

Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:Suddenly out of nowhere In season 4 Fry remembers, "Oh, yeah I had a dog...even tho I kept quiet about it for 4 years."

Stuff like that is often inserted in the lives of TV characters. You might as well complain that Fry had never mentioned his lucky clover before "Luck of the Fryrish" or that Leela had never mentioned her bracelet before "Leela's Homeworld."

Stuff like that is often inserted in the lives of TV characters. You might as well complain that Fry had never mentioned his lucky clover before "Luck of the Fryrish" or that Leela had never mentioned her bracelet before "Leela's Homeworld."

[Morbo] Puny human, I recognize the development of props such as lucky clovers and braclets. Such things are easily overlooked, but creating a dog is a different matter. I am sickened that a secondary afterthought in the development of premise be tacked on to the show for "Puppysploitation." While such pitiful things as trinkets you have mentioned can easily be overlooked, such things as loveable dogs are typical parcels of reflection and whitfulness. It is for this reason pitiful human writers use them as devices to squeese tears from the ducts of other mere squishy humanoids. My race will crush their necks, and use their tiny skulls for our Emmys. BWAHAHAHAHAHA. [/Morbo]

I'm a little surprised at how mad I am that the Simpsons won. But it's honestly the worst travesty I can ever remember at an awards show, and I'm a bloody-minded cynic of the worst kind when it comes to award shows.

A friend told me today that Jurassic Bark was the best episode he had ever seen of any animated show, and I might just agree with him. 3 gays of the Condo, however, was utter drivel. The Simpsons did a "gay" episode in like 1997, with John Waters, and it was flawless. All the jokes were funny, and all the serious stuff was dead-on. Now, in their pathetic decline, they trot out this inane, unfunny, pedestrian, utterly trivial hack job, and they get handed an Emmy just for showing up. Now Jurassic Bark will remain forever unremembered, having never received what it so obviously deserves.

How could a single Emmy voter have felt that this was the right choice to make? Even one? I can't imagine the depth of soullessness it must take to believe that 3 Gays of the Condo was honestly better that Jurassic Bark. I want to kill someone.

Jurassic Bark was still an episode about a dumb dog... I only got out of it was that there's an evil nibblonian hiding in a trashcan somewhere, Bender has 130% of different elements in him with 40% being dogamite and that the professor can use the aid of wizards to pull the same cord that turns out to be made of different things... That dog should've died a long time ago when someone leveled a shotgun to his head... hehe >: D

But Seymour is so cute! I've always been a dog person (though not allowed to have one because of my parents' allergies and brother's asthma). It's not a favorite episode of mine but you can't hate the end of the episode where the dog is still waiting for Fry... it was sad.

Originally posted by CyberKnight:Of course, the PC vote, as [-mArc-] hinted at on CGEF, probably swung it.

Please do not blame me or my people for this tragedy. I'm gay and Jurassic Park still would've gotten my vote.

I'm sorry, that wasn't what I meant - what I meant was that the jury chose "Three Gays" because (as [-mArc-] said) it's a topic rarely touched upon (although I don't know how you feel, but I would have thought "Three Gays" didn't put it across particularly well).

Put simply, what I meant by the "PC vote" is that it feels like the judges said "They're championing gay rights - that makes the episode good" despite the fact the episode itself isn't that good. (At the very least, in comparison to Jurassic Bark).

I certainly didn't mean to offend you or anyone like you, and I apologise for that.

I think it's a travesty that the jurors went for the obvious vote and what is basically a vastly inferior version of the brilliant 'Homer's Phobia', but at least Futurama's won one emmy. There are loads of great genre shows that have been entirely ignored by the academy over the years, and I think it's good that a show with a relatively small cult following can win anything at all.

I think it's too bad Futurama was passed over, but al least it was nominated. And I'm glad I can keep calling Roswell That Ends Well 'the Emmy episode' as opposed to 'the Emmy episode that didn't make my cry.' Somewhat less manly, that.

Winna, you missed the point. Jurassic Bark wasn't about a dog at all. It used the dog as a plot device to study Fry and Bender's relationship. Not that the dog scenes weren't touching, mind you (I nearly cried, I can tell you that).

Regarding Three Gays again, and the Simpsons' decline:

MG has almost NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH to do with The Simpsons after season three. If anything, Sam Simon did more for the show then he did past the original shorts. He admitted in 1994 that "I could drop off the face of the earth and the show would go along just fine". Unless you think the show became shit in 1992, let that argument go.

As far as Three Gays goes, the episode had nothing to do with advocating gay rights. Not that I disagree with that cause (I do agree with it), and I can also agree that the mere usage of the gay theme may have influenced the emmy voters. But its not an "inferior version of Homer's Phobia" because the two have nothing to do with each other. Homer's Phobia specifically analyzes issues about homophobia, while Three Gays uses it as a plot device (similar to Seymour) to examine Marge and Homer's relationship. There are episodes like "Two Cars in every Garage..." and "Sideshow Bob Roberts", or "Bart's Dog gets an 'F'" and "Dog of Death" that borrow far more from each other then Homer's Phobia and Three Gays.

I liked Jurassic Bark more. But, I'll say it again, people who detest Three Gays no longer understand their own arguments about the show currently being bad. Bash "Pray Anything" instead.

I have to say, it's distressing to see my all-time favorite Futurama (and one of my all-time favorite episodes of any show) lose an Emmy to Three Gays. Now granted, I did like TGotC, it was a good Simpsons episode, above-average for S14 (I personally thought Moe Baby Blues and I'm Spelling as Fast as I Can were the best of the season, but oh well).

Still, I really, really wanted Jurassic Bark to win. The episode's just terrific all-around. Besides, this is likely the last time Futurama will get to be nominated...and the Simpsons have at least a few more seasons and chances. Let's have a final hurray for Futurama instead of letting this dog die sad and lonely.

@DotheBartman: OK, maybe Three Gays wasn't a HP knock-off, but it was awful. The makers of the Simpsons seem to be trying to go back to less stupid episodes, and, while I appreciate the thought, it's not working. I actually prefer stupid/weird new episodes like 'Tales From the Public Domain'.

If this ep had won the emmy, maybe the show would have been given a bit more recognition....I haven't seen the other 2 shows but the Simpsons ep (3 Gays....) how was this even nominated....?

Before Futurama I was a huge Simpsons fan and if I missed a new ep I was furious err yellow these days, I'm not a huge fan but I still tune in to see the new ones even if they turn out to be meh (which they usually are)Anyway new Simpsons eps don't even deserve nomination in my opinion, and Jurassic Bark was so great it should have won hands down....I hear Roswell won last year though....? Least they got something right....

Again, I would have loved to see Jurassic Bark win instead. When I first saw the news that "Three Gays" had won instead, I think my exact words were "oh shit".

But please, someone explain to me why Three Gays is so bad. It wasn't perfect, but even a lot of so called "classics" (Homer Goes to College, anyone?) aren't either. Someone please explain to me why it wasn't well done. I just don't understand how people can bash it so ceaselessly, and "Three Hundred Big Boys" actually gets decent ratings.

I personally am not a basher of Three Gays (I'd give it a 4/5), but I thought it did have a few flaws.

Weird Al's song was way too short, for starters, and it wasn't that funny either (surprising, since he's a funny guy). It also felt a little tacked on, though I did like the ending song. Secondly, while Homer jumping out of the window was a funny moment and helped round out the scene, it was kind of weird how sudden the two gay characters in the episode were just dropped and forgotten like that. And finally, the episode just didn't have THAT many laughs overall.

It's been awhile since I've seen it though, and I've only seen it once. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it (above average for this decent season), but I still wish Jurassic Bark took home the award.

Not arguing with any of that (I even said the episode was flawed). Just trying to get a response from those who HATED it, because I think their opinions are unwarranted. Even Homer's Phobia wasn't flawless, people.

Alrighty then. When I think about it, I didn't actually hate this ep all that much, I liked the jigsaw puzzle and the flashbacks, but some of it was IMO noticably terrible. In particular, many jokes during 'Homer moves in with gays' part fell embarassingly flat, as did Weird Al's entire song. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm just glad that the episode The Simpsons guys picked was Three Gays of the Condo and not something like Helter Shelter or Pray Anything. At least with an episode like Three Gays, their win was valid.

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