All ideas about who did this are speculation at this point. Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable to speculate, provided it's couched as that and you don't do something stupid like violate people's rights based on it.

The last attempt at something like this in the U.S. was a home-grown Islamic terrorist. However, the last (somewhat) successful attempt at something like this was a home-grown terrorist with an extremist social conservative ideology. Most of his targets corresponded to that ideology (abortionists, gays, etc.). My money is still on homegrown Jihadist terrorists. (I further speculate, wildly, that it was a small number of either Northeast region college students (perhaps Boston), or jobless derka-derka techno-yuppies from the same area.)

tell that to Muso, the rest of us comprehend educated guesses and likely explanations.
There is an entire ocean of difference between "this looks like the work of muzzies" and "my [RoP] tag is accurate!"_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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All ideas about who did this are speculation at this point. Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable to speculate, provided it's couched as that and you don't do something stupid like violate people's rights based on it.

The last attempt at something like this in the U.S. was a home-grown Islamic terrorist. However, the last (somewhat) successful attempt at something like this was a home-grown terrorist with an extremist social conservative ideology. Most of his targets corresponded to that ideology (abortionists, gays, etc.). My money is still on homegrown Jihadist terrorists. (I further speculate, wildly, that it was a small number of either Northeast region college students (perhaps Boston), or jobless derka-derka techno-yuppies from the same area.)

tell that to Muso, the rest of us comprehend educated guesses and likely explanations.
There is an entire ocean of difference between "this looks like the work of muzzies" and "my [RoP] tag is accurate!"

Want to bet that my tag isn't accurate?_________________Chemtrails don't actually exist.
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All ideas about who did this are speculation at this point. Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable to speculate, provided it's couched as that and you don't do something stupid like violate people's rights based on it.

The last attempt at something like this in the U.S. was a home-grown Islamic terrorist. However, the last (somewhat) successful attempt at something like this was a home-grown terrorist with an extremist social conservative ideology. Most of his targets corresponded to that ideology (abortionists, gays, etc.). My money is still on homegrown Jihadist terrorists. (I further speculate, wildly, that it was a small number of either Northeast region college students (perhaps Boston), or jobless derka-derka techno-yuppies from the same area.)

tell that to Muso, the rest of us comprehend educated guesses and likely explanations.
There is an entire ocean of difference between "this looks like the work of muzzies" and "my [RoP] tag is accurate!"

Want to bet that my tag isn't accurate?

only if you are willing to provide citation time and dated as per your original post.

No official suspects have been named, and no arrests or claims of responsibility for the attack have been announced.[3] On April 16, U.S. President Barack Obama announced that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating the bombings as an act of terrorism.[4]

its one thing to speculate, have an educated guess about. ITS completely different to peddle that uncertainty as hard fact.
as I have said in this thread (at least twice iirc) it probably is muzzies BUT I can't be 100% sure so I am not going to be a mindless sheeple and parrot whatever the local news is trying to peddle as fact when there is none publically known. See I could take you up on your bet and put the stakes that the loser never posts on the gentoo forums again, but seeing as you are unable to see the logical err in your stance I would find it hard that you would honour the bet when you lose (and the loss is marked when a public statement confirming the culprit is made, or you providing a citable source time and dated prior to your OP)_________________The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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REVERE — The Saudi Arabian man whose apartment was searched by Boston Marathon bombing investigators is not a person of interest in the continuing search for the persons responsible for Monday’s terrorist attack.

“He has been checked out,’’ said a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation. “He is not involved. He is just a victim.’’

_________________At some point, you gotta stop with the ribbons and let some people go. -- Bill Burr

Were you making a specific point? The links seem kind of random. IIRC, ammonium nitrate was used in the OK City bombing, so waiting for Afghanistan was a little late._________________At some point, you gotta stop with the ribbons and let some people go. -- Bill Burr

what has a higher probability (needs to be defined of course) a muslim being killed by an american, or vice versa?

you can play this game quite a bit. But if you read the vitriol being lobbed at that community IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE (turn their countries into parking lots!) I imagine that the real news provides ample material for the ministry of truth in iran.

what has a higher probability (needs to be defined of course) a muslim being killed by an american, or vice versa?

you can play this game quite a bit. But if you read the vitriol being lobbed at that community IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE (turn their countries into parking lots!) I imagine that the real news provides ample material for the ministry of truth in iran.

I think you missed the joke.
the kneejerk is strong with this one...

As to vitriol being lobbed, the reaction from the left and mainstream media after the Giffords shooting was worse than this: far more viotriolic, far more prejudiced, and far more prejudicial.

This time around, they're bending over backwards not to jump to conclusions, because they're hoping it was a three-toothed redneck and are hoping to keep Chocolate Jesus from looking like he's not doing his job._________________

patrix_neo wrote:

The human thought: I cannot win.
The ratbrain in me : I can only go forward and that's it.

All ideas about who did this are speculation at this point. Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable to speculate, provided it's couched as that and you don't do something stupid like violate people's rights based on it.

The last attempt at something like this in the U.S. was a home-grown Islamic terrorist. However, the last (somewhat) successful attempt at something like this was a home-grown terrorist with an extremist social conservative ideology. Most of his targets corresponded to that ideology (abortionists, gays, etc.). My money is still on homegrown Jihadist terrorists. (I further speculate, wildly, that it was a small number of either Northeast region college students (perhaps Boston), or jobless derka-derka techno-yuppies from the same area.)

tell that to Muso, the rest of us comprehend educated guesses and likely explanations.
There is an entire ocean of difference between "this looks like the work of muzzies" and "my [RoP] tag is accurate!"

Want to bet that my tag isn't accurate?

Actually thinking about it I will take you up on the bet
You made a supposition in the OP title ( [RoP] Explosion at Boston Marathon ). Thats fine, nothing wrong with that, its a valid supposition
You then escalated this from supposition to affirming "fact" Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:13 am

Muso wrote:

So my [RoP] tag was accurate.

Shock, fucking, horror.

So you must have some citation for this claim.

So as to your call, ill take that bet. As per Hitchens' razor YOU are the one that has to back this claim AND this claim was made at Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:13 am so your citation must be date&timed no later than this otherwise your claim is a gross misrepresentation of reality

The stakes? If you can back up your claim I will never post on the Gentoo forums again, if I win you never post on the Gentoo forums again.
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Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king

what has a higher probability (needs to be defined of course) a muslim being killed by an american, or vice versa?

you can play this game quite a bit. But if you read the vitriol being lobbed at that community IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE (turn their countries into parking lots!) I imagine that the real news provides ample material for the ministry of truth in iran.

I think you missed the joke.
the kneejerk is strong with this one...

I was agreeing with him. I got the joke. Sorry it didn't come across clearly.

Quote:

As to vitriol being lobbed, the reaction from the left and mainstream media after the Giffords shooting was worse than this: far more viotriolic, far more prejudiced, and far more prejudicial.

It wasn't good with Giffords, and it isn't good now. I haven't said anything to contradict that.

That's nothing. After the Centennial Park bombing, they did the same thing to the hero (the guy who actually spotted the bomb and got everybody cleared away before it went off, probably saving dozens of people), and then the media reported him as a "suspect", totally ruining his life.

Seriously, though, the reaction seems quite "meh" this time. Pussified Westerners are finally starting to understand this sort of thing can happen any time to anyone anywhere, and are coming to terms with that reality instead of wetting their pants.

The reaction on the scene was remarkable. Many runners just kept right on going toward the finish line. There wasn't a major panic or stampede; people just sensibly moved away from the site. Lots of people immediately moved in and helped the injured. There were remarkably few deaths because it was well-handled.

I'm not sure what media you're watching where people are talking about violent responses (e.g., bombing countries, etc.); I haven't heard anything like that. If there were London-style mobs of stick-and-bottle-wielding hooligans roaming the streets looking for Middle Eastern people to beat up, then maybe you'd have something real to complain about._________________

patrix_neo wrote:

The human thought: I cannot win.
The ratbrain in me : I can only go forward and that's it.