Exactly...like Erika Badu claims to be vegan but look what she has on her kneck.
If the dood at the fur store would've told her that full dead animals weren't vegan, she may have avoided this faux pas.

I don't think most people stop eating meat because it's hip. I stopped because I worked in a nice upscale, everything from scratch restaurant where I made sausages and cleaned a bunch of chickens everyday. Ever see what's in sausage or chicken stock? You'd stop eating it too.

I don't miss it at all: the grease, the disease, anything. Eat what you want though; that's my motto.

Look, I worked in a restaurant and once figured the cost of every single thing we had in the place. You took a napkin? I knew how much it cost. Those little creamers? Those too. A leaf of lettuce or a slice of tomato on your sammich? Yep, that too. Now maybe you didn't realize that you were paying for those napkins, creamers, lettuce leafs, and tomatos, but you were. And if you wanted something that cost us extra, I guarantee you that were charged for it.

So I have no idea what the "fifth degree" is, but I know a few things about restaurants and veganism and wanted to talk about it. Sorry if I got anybody's cruelty-free panties in a bunch.

(I guess now would be a bad time to bring up the whole honey is mean to bees thing, huh?)

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

and saying "i've never met a non-preachy vegan" is a lot like saying "i've never met a hippie who washes" or "i've never met a non-alcoholic bass player" only less funny. be ignorant, ok, but don't broadcast it

and saying "i've never met a non-preachy vegan" is a lot like saying "i've never met a hippie who washes" or "i've never met a non-alcoholic bass player" only less funny. be ignorant, ok, but don't broadcast it

I'm not ignorant. I've tried being vegan. (I got kicked out of the club for refusing to witness to omnivores.) I've lived with vegans. I've honestly never met one who wasn't preachy. I've been a vegetarian for 20 years. You might not find me funny, but to call me ignorant is just ... well ... ignorant.

_________________It was fifteen years ago, but I remember it like it was ten.

and saying "i've never met a non-preachy vegan" is a lot like saying "i've never met a hippie who washes" or "i've never met a non-alcoholic bass player" only less funny. be ignorant, ok, but don't broadcast it

I'm not ignorant. I've tried being vegan. (I got kicked out of the club for refusing to witness to omnivores.) I've lived with vegans. I've honestly never met one who wasn't preachy. I've been a vegetarian for 20 years. You might not find me funny, but to call me ignorant is just ... well ... ignorant.

ah you have vegan envy.
its a complex people have when they try to be vegan and it doesn't work out.
so they develop hostilities toward vegans.

cause i honestly doubt you stopped being because of other vegans.
that would be irrational.
especially someone as business savy as you.

i mean i don't know your reason for being vegetarion for 75 years or whatever but an assumtption it was for simlar reasons why people become vegans.

it would seem more that you pacing yourself and living life in a manner that works for you.
but at the sametime.
you need to work on your vegan envy.

maybe this goes too far, but can one be a vegan and still swallow during oral sex? Technically, it's an animal product....

_________________"The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other... involves orcs." - Kung Fu Monkey

maybe this goes too far, but can one be a vegan and still swallow during oral sex? Technically, it's an animal product....

I think it wouldn't matter unless the swallower were somehow exploiting the swallowee while doing so.

have you never been on the internets? Or in a bar, for that matter....

_________________"The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other... involves orcs." - Kung Fu Monkey

Wake up. You are not a carnivore. All humans are omnivores. Go ahead and try living on nothing but meat. Your body will love you. Seriously, try it and report back to us.

If you want to find out how hip being a vegetarian is, here's an experiment you can try. Go to a website frequented by supposed hipsters, say a local music website, and then admit that you're a vegetarian. Watch how quickly the assholes come out to insult you. Yes, those hipsters love vegetarians.

by the way--i don't really give a shit if someone's vegan/veggie whatever. unless i'm cooking, then i'm sorry, granted, i'm not a carnivore.