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And to suggest you would rather get beaten (without reply) than spat at is stupid and not taking violence seriously. But I guess everyone has their own hierarchy..

Punch to the head
Bitchslap
Spat At
Verbal racial abuse (controversial!)

Well maybe everyone should put their money where their mouth is, those that would prefer to be spat on get spat on, those who prefer to have the *ahem* beaten out of them can come back improved after their experience as they'll no longer be full of it

Last edited by TheDarknessIsCalling; 14-3-18 at 13:36.
Reason: language

If anyone had read some of the links to the story then carra would be best punished by wearing on of these spit hoods the police forces are bringing in and (17 of the 49 forces in the UK use them) except Liberty claim they are "cruel and degrading", as if being spat on is the ultimate in niceness and not at all degrading

Think so far the punishment is right, suspension and we'll see what the outcome of the police enquiries leads to. Fine and community service would seem about right, on top of whatever else s*y throw at him and sounds like they're getting it right, testing the water and doing a good old FA ploy of waiting until the artificial outrage has died down, gobbers of a different type like Savage have got back in their cage, and then leave it at that a la Holgate.

Deffo. wonder if its the same across genders..Even worse, on the one hand some say jamie was despicable (fair) doing such a thing with children in the car, but on the other they respect the idea of road-rage style chasing someone down and dragging them from their car and beating them (in front of own kids) as if that makes you a better human and a better role model for your children.

Some of the *coughs* "arguments" *coughs* put forward were and may well remain laughable, and I realised not long after I logged off the suggestion a certain person wouldn't want to live where I live was rather idiotic since I live in a nice enough area where thankfully you don't see much violence or spitting, relatively quiet bar a major road nearby, and bar one scumbag the neighbours are nice enough.

Didn't realise I needed to live in some kind of ghetto to know spitting is unpleasant, obviously not had a lobotomy or any blows to the head or brain damage so not entirely sure what I'd need to experience or be like to want someone sacked, think those that would want someone sacked for less than something like murder, manslaughter,GBH type things, or indeed violence and offences of a sexual nature including certain age groups, are more vile than the people they're wanting sacked.

Deffo. wonder if its the same across genders..Even worse, on the one hand some say jamie was despicable (fair) doing such a thing with children in the car, but on the other they respect the idea of road-rage style chasing someone down and dragging them from their car and beating them (in front of own kids) as if that makes you a better human and a better role model for your children.

Jamie Carragher once peed on my feet. We were sitting around a table in a bar in Malaysia on an England Under-20 tour and, as he slurred at the time, he had had quite a few and it was a long way to the toilet.

Among a lairy crew on that trip — Kieron Dyer revealed recently in his autobiography that the squad took turns to crap in a carrier bag that was hung on the hotel door of the coach, Ted Powell — Carragher was certainly not a boy scout.

I wrote about that tour a few years ago not to embarrass Carragher but to record how far he had come since his days as a wayward 19-year-old to develop into an excellent and enduring professional and, more recently, a respected, insightful and admirable pundit; someone you are always glad to bump into on the road, to pass time with.

All of which means that: 1) I struggle as much as anyone to imagine what on earth he was thinking when he spat through his car window; and 2) I hope that Sky gives him a severe reprimand and a second chance.

Maybe I would not write that about someone who has not always been such good value — unusually accessible and down to earth, untypically candid, and definitely knowledgeable — in all dealings in the 21 years since Malaysia. But if you get to know someone, even a little, you have an insight beyond the headlines and Carragher will never lack for character references.

You see an incident such as this as a moment of awful stupidity rather than a reason to write someone off, just like the crazy over-reaction when some clumsily worded tweets from Phil Neville resurfaced when he was appointed head coach of the England women’s team. Did anyone seriously think he was condoning wife battering? Many appeared to, or they just enjoy being outraged.

Of course no one can defend spitting and Carragher was right to apologise swiftly and unreservedly. We should park the daft cliché that spitting is “as bad as it gets” — I’d take it over being headbutted — but it is revolting in any circumstances and it made no sense in these.

Even if Carragher had already been wound up on the motorway — or even if he was simply having a terrible day — you would have thought that he would have reached a point after so many years playing for Liverpool where you can live with a bit of stick. Just turn up the radio, drown out the noise.

He seems genuinely mortified, and so he should be. Spitting at someone — though we can assume that the target was never the 14-year-old girl, the only grown-up in all this, telling her dad to “stop it” as the Manchester United fan revelled in goading Carragher and filming it for posterity while at the wheel — was horrible, and now leaves him suspended by Sky.

Carragher is at the mercy of employers who have sacked a high-profile presenter, Andy Gray, for the “unacceptable and offensive behaviour” of sexism towards another member of staff. But then Gray was seen to be past his prime, overpaid and overbearing in the workplace. Carragher still has plenty of years left, and is widely liked. Moral relativism in these cases is rarely helpful but, as a point of fact, Kirsty Gallacher was kept on by Sky despite a drink-driving conviction last year for being three times over the legal limit at 11am. So Sky must decide if this is about the offence or the scale of the public backlash.

Some question whether this incident affects Carragher’s ability to do the job, though it should not, long-term. Yes, José Mourinho has an elephantine memory for everyone else’s indiscretions for use at some later date, and we can imagine his response the next time that Carragher is giving the United manager some grief. But Carragher will just to have to continue to speak his mind and roll with that.

Someone asked how he might comment on a spitting incident. Well, hopefully by talking from personal experience about what an idiotic thing it is to do.

Tony Cascarino has recounted on these pages previously how he once spat at an opponent while playing for Millwall against Aldershot in a pre-season friendly. Should we not employ him at The Times?

Tony talks of learning the lessons of that incident and, even if he should know so much better at 40, Carragher can as well, provided that his remorse is genuine — and without him being sacked or deemed unfit to offer opinions about football matches.

And in normal circumstances, I'd have chased down Carra in my car and run him off the road, and then smacked him.

Unlike this guy who just chuckled and said something like "whooeey, Jamie Carragher spat on my child, that's interesting" - because (i) he realised he'd be getting some money for this, and (ii) he realised that he caused it by provoking a guy on the road, while endangering his own child.

What Carra did can be deemed disgusting & inexcusable (which he's admitted). But it's nothing like physically harming someone, and people comparing it like that (like you & those Football paragons of virtue - Jones & Barton) are going over the top to put it mildly.

Also, given that the parents have accepted his apology (to be followed by some compensation, I'm sure), then they obviously are'nt over-reacting like y'all, and at the end of the day, their opinion is the only one that really matters here, since it was their child that was victimised.

So, can we criticise him for doing something inexcusable, but yet still accept the apology of a Liverpool legend, since that's what family is there for (the LFC family in this case)?

Because you can bet EVERY other non LFC person will NEVER let him forget about it. So, he'll be going through that flak for the rest of his life, but I'd hope he can still find solace with the LFC family he served with distinction for years.

I have no sympathy for someone who uses his social media account to encourage abuse against our players,he is not the only liverpool pundit but yet he is the only one who takes it that far

I have no problem a pundit criticizing players on tv as it is your job but to use social media and take advantage of the following you have to call out players makes life harder for the manager and the club. As far as I'm aware of he is the only pundit who thinks has that right.No one ever called him out on his many own goals or when he would make stupid decisions defending

I have no problem a pundit criticizing players on tv as it is your job but to use social media and take advantage of the following you have to call out players makes life harder for the manager and the club. As far as I'm aware of he is the only pundit who thinks has that right.No one ever called him out on his many own goals or when he would make stupid decisions defending

Yes the man always calls out players after a bad performance or during negotiations. I still believe he had some influence in Sterling choosing City

So players shouldn’t be called out? Accountability is one of the biggest thing some of these players have been missing... I’m all about calling a spade a spade... Carra is not to blame for the mental weakness of some players