Comments on: Jordan Black unhappy with NFL “attack-dog attorney” — and PFThttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/jordan-black-unhappy-with-nfl-attack-dog-attorney-and-pft/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 17:21:50 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: jm91rshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/jordan-black-unhappy-with-nfl-attack-dog-attorney-and-pft/#comment-2193750
Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:27:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2193750I’m guessing the reason he singled you out is not necessarily the 50lb comment, but the fact that you used the 50lb story to connect dots to steroids. He has a valid argument there.

The guy took something he wasn’t allowed to take and I’m all for him being suspended for that, however if it was not a bulk building steroid it really wasn’t your place to speculate that he took a steroid to add bulk. You’re out of line on that original article because you decided to play detective and connect some dots. Turns out he didn’t gain 50 lbs and now you’ve written a story with no merit.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:56:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2193661It’s no ones business what medical condition Jordan has. You should be ashamed to even ask !
What are you on ? He has a right to defend himself. As we have seen just last week (Bounty) the NFL is not without fault, guilt.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:27:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192999If you actually read the Post’s article about Black’s weight, he never says how much weight he has actually gained.

That being said to start your PFT article about him getting busted for PEDs with how he was “boasting about gaining 50lbs” was basically inferring that he was guilty of using steroids.

The man is getting screwed by the NFL over paperwork and a faux attempt to look like it cares about PEDs.(still no HGH testing??) And you’re leading the readers to believe how he must of been on steroids or else why doesn’t he come clean and how did he gain all of that “phantom” weight? Please! I feel bad for the guy for not only loosing his job on a bs reason, but having his name drug through mud by the media.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:47:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192957Hmmm. Black should be mad at the Redskins website as well apparently!

According to Jordan Black, this prescription was approved by the league before signing with the team (It is safe to assume that the team required such verification before finalizing the deal). If this is true, I can definitely understand why he’s angry. The league says it’s cool but later changes their mind… ??
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pickskins says: Dec 18, 2012 9:57 PM

The Americans with Disabilities Act includes ADHD as a disability.

The Americans with Disabilities Act, or ADA, was established by Congress in 1990. The purpose of the law is to end discrimination in the workplace and to provide equal employment opportunities for people with disabilities.
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What confuses me, and I’m guessing I missed something as this story unfolded, is how ADHD medicine would even begin to enter the picture in this whole situation.

The story was initially broken in the context of Black gaining 50 pounds and being busted for PEDs. While PEDs, especially this season, have meant Adderall or a similar ADHD-controlling amphetamine, both medical professionals and personal experience can attest to ADHD medications’ chief side-effect being extensive, rapid, and uncontrollable weight-loss.

It’s difficult to imagine that an NFL offensive lineman, especially the self-described “smallest tackle in the league”, would be using a medicine that makes it difficult to maintain weight in a job that definitively requires being extremely heavy.

While the NFL should probably re-examine it’s entire position on ADHD medication, it should definitely consider looking into the role of the drug and the position of the player. For linemen, maybe Adderall should be considered a performance inhibiting drug, and teams be compensated with draft picks or salary cap increases for starting linemen with Adderall prescriptions.

Now I understand that most PFT readers have absolutely no sense of humor, so I’ll lay out very clearly that the first three paragraphs were an actual post, while the last was just a joke to lighten the mood.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:43:47 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192953Good for him for keeping his medical privacy. And shame on everyone else who thinks its their job or place to question ones medical history.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:34:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192944Fact is Michael no matter what you want to say nor your arguement , he has privacy rights with medical treatment and he doesn’t have to disclose that to the public.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:09:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192905See you next year big guy. Or little guy. Or whatever guy shows up at training camp.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:48:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192874budramsfan says: Dec 18, 2012 6:13 PM

Danetoe- he tarnished his own legacy already dumbass, he FAILED the appeal. Its nobody’s fault but his, and trying to blame a reporter who drew a conclusion based on info provided by a major newspaper is ridiculous. Who cares about the jobber O lineman besides Redskins fans?
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Such a shame the legacy of a third string lineman had to be tarnished like that. Just as he was closing in on the all-time record for most consecutive seasons without starting a game. Guess you can kiss that bust in Canton buh-bye, Jordan.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:36:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192848fuglyflorio says:
Dec 18, 2012 6:21 PM
They’re all juicing … and Adderall is the masking agent. How many people do you know in your normal life taking it? So why do all these NFL players mysteriously need it?

I know plenty of people who have been diagnosed with ADHD…myself included. Adderall when used correctly can help a lot.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:10:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192780there are many types of generic “adderall” that are not technically “adderall”. each generic has its own, slightly modified mix of amphetamine salts used to induce proper function of the brain (there are also many other types of drugs used for treating adhd). some might assume that we are seeing so many players being diagnosed with adhd which has resulted from repeated blows to the head. the disorder is very misunderstood and perceived incorrectly and with stigma by the general public.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:57:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192738The Americans with Disabilities Act includes ADHD as a disability.

The Americans with Disabilities Act, or ADA, was established by Congress in 1990. The purpose of the law is to end discrimination in the workplace and to provide equal employment opportunities for people with disabilities.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:50:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192725According to Jordan Black, this prescription was approved by the league before signing with the team (It is safe to assume that the team required such verification before finalizing the deal). If this is true, I can definitely understand why he’s angry. The league says it’s cool but later changes their mind… ??
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:35:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192699Mara has gone out of his way to try and cut the skins down ever since fisher and shanahan agreed to the trade that brought griffin to d.c… You can’t stop it Mara. The tables have turned. Try not to choke on your trust fund. I want to see Karma get her hands on you first…
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:30:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192553*2012 Washington Redskins
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:02:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192477I agree with mazblast
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:00:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192468budramsfan says:
Dec 18, 2012 6:13 PM
Danetoe- he tarnished his own legacy already dumbass, he FAILED the appeal. Its nobody’s fault but his, and trying to blame a reporter who drew a conclusion based on info provided by a major newspaper is ridiculous. Who cares about the jobber O lineman besides Redskins fans?

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Don’t you care since you read the article AND are commenting on it?

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:59:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192461Something is very wrong here if the drug in question is Adderall, and the discussion is weight gain. Adderall causes weight loss and is often black marketed as a diet pill. So something was lost in translation if Black told the Post he was bulking up because of an Adderall prescription.

MDS is correct that players made a bad bargain in not allowing the league to publicize the drugs involved in suspensions. Sometimes these are nothing more than OTC supplements made to seem more sinister by the secrecy. The league needs to revamp its peds policy to to ban only those substances like steroids that are truly harmful to players’ health and well-being.

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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:54:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192446Most publicity a third string right tackle ever got…
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:36:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192413Just a wee bit too convenient that this happens while the Redskins are fighting for a playoff spot with Goodell’s beloved Giants, owned by Goodell’s buddy John Mara.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:27:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192401A redskin crybaby in denial.
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:16:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192385275 pounds? Must be the same scale ole Vince Wilfork “only” weighs #325 on!
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Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:13:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192382He’s just a tad defensive about disclosing that he’s been going overboard on his kid’s Flintstones chewables.
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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:50:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192355At this point, I would doubt it was steroids. If it was, I don’t think the other O-linemen would be jumping in so whole-heartedly, even befoer he rushed to his own defense. He’s bringing himself a lot more publicity by making such a big deal of it.
Meanwhile, we have to patch a line together for this week’s game at the Link.
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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:38:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192324Yummy,

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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:35:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192320The many recent PED issues in the NFL reflect a seemingly harsh system set up to keep players from being able to use banned drugs, regardless of intent. It would be nice if there was a means of demonstrating intent or lack thereof to mitigate the penalty, but beause they can’t get away with using or inadvertantly injesting banned substances, the majority of cheating will be curtailed in the future. Collatoral damage is necessary, it seems. Better than allowing loop holes that defeat the program.

I, of course, am not talking about Sherman………He should be allowed to keep playing without penalty………the rest of the league, however, should comply………Okay, if he really is guilty, he should sit out too……….

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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:30:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192313This is not the first time someone has tested positive for a prescription drug. If your prescription is on the banned substances list, you have to get approval from the league to take it. If you don’t get that, then you are breaking the rules. He should know that. Just repeating “It was a prescription!” over and over again doesn’t mean he didn’t break the rules. Adderall is a prescription too.
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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:22:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192295Meeeeow! Saucer of milk, table two.

“OMG but then he was all like, ‘He gained like 50 pounds’ and I was all like, ‘Yeah, maybe more like 7 pounds… OF MUSCLE’… and then he was all like, ‘What-Ev-Er like I would even lie about that… so Grody’ and I was all like, ‘Yeah… well if the shoe fits, buddy'”

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Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:21:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1592412#comment-2192293They’re all juicing … and Adderall is the masking agent. How many people do you know in your normal life taking it? So why do all these NFL players mysteriously need it?
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