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Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum. The only reason I signed up an account is that I recently became engrossed in the Len Pickard/ Todd Skinner / Krystle Cole case. I have a few comments to make and some questions. My main interest is not actually in the Pickard aspect.. it's in the violent assault on Brandon Green conducted by Krystle ("Krystal") Cole, Gordon Todd Skinner, and another guy, in a motel room in Oklahoma. In my opinion this is the true crime of this case, and the true evil.

I am talking of the permanent physical and mental mutilation of Brandon Green, aged 18 at the time.

What strikes me is that there are so many posters in various forums and on Youtube calling Krystle Cole (or "Krystal" or "Neurosoup girl") a "snitch", and that THAT's the worst thing she did regarding all this. In my opinion, infinitely worse (INFINITELY worse) was what she is alleged to have participated in with Todd: the brutal assault and permanent physical and psychic injury (worse than murder) on Brandon Green.

I could care less about narcs narcing on other narcs (which is the bottom line in the Pickard/Skinner soap opera). Poor widdle diddums.

However, TORTURE, FORCED PERMANENT STERILIZATION AND GENITAL MUTILATION of an 18 year old boy, FORCED PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE, both organic and psychological, to that kid... THIS was true evil.

Why isn't Krystle Cole in jail, for life, like Skinner is?

I pray Skinner is never released.

For those unfamiliar with the case (or familiar only with the retarded "documentary" with the hipster vocal-fry metrosexual interviewer, showing Krystle in a G-string in the old missile silo), here is what happened to Brandon, and what Brandon testified after his torture and attempted or "near" murder:

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Within the report, kidnapping and torture victim Brandon Green states (Report, p. 4) that after kidnapping by Skinner and Krystal Cole, he was: 1.injected with unknown chemicals and drugs in his penis, testicles, back, arms and legs. 2.hit in the groin repeatedly. 3.kicked in the groin until he blacked out. 4.forced to drink an unknown substance and was also forced to swallow some form of "parasitic eggs." 5.not given any food and very little fluids during his captivity. 6.bound with duct tape by the hands and feet and beaten repeatedly. 7.duct-taped across the mouth to prevent his calls for help. 8.tied around the testicles and/or penis with a telephone cord and suspended from a bed. 9.pulled with the telephone cord around his penis until cartilage "popped." 10.subjected to a deep cut into his penis with a knife or razor blade. 11.subjected to bleach being poured over his groin area. 12."brutally shaved" by Krystle Cole of his scalp, eyebrows, genitalia and his entire body. 13.subjected to severe trauma to the rectum with an unknown instrument.

"I was kidnapped in July, 2003, and today in almost February, 2007. Almost four years have gone by, and I'm still in constant agony in multiple areas across my body. It kills me to think that Krystal could be released from probation in half the amount of time that I have been suffering. I beg the courts to be harsh on Krystal and charge her with the maximum penalty available. Krystal A. Cole-Skinner handed me over to complete evil. Krystal A. Cole-Skinner encouraged and enjoyed the physical, sexual and emotional torture inflicted against my will, for numerous days. Krystal is very sick and very young. She has the propensity to kill and is arrogant enough to follow through with it. Her only regret is getting caught, and probably wishes she had finished me off there in the field." (See Report, p. 10.)

Question from Pre-Trial Investigator: Do you believe the Defendant is a serious threat to the community? Answer:

"Yes, very much so. She is young, evil and enthusiastic. She still has a lot of damage she could do, if not punished correctly the first time. Just as her predecessor/husband, each time she slides through the court system successfully, she will become more brazen and more confident." (See Report, p. 10-11, and see January 5, 2011 indictment of Krystal Cole's advertisers in State v. Sloan, below.)

Question from Pre-Trial Investigator: What type of punishment, in your opinion, so you feel is necessary for the Defendant to receive? Answer:

"Incarceration. People are creatures of habit. I would bet the farm she is currently living off illegally made money, and is either committing or scheming several large crimes. She has grown up in a life of easy money, answering to no one, and is lying to everyone. I would be too scared not to incarcerate Krystal A. Cole-Skinner. For somebody to commit the types of crimes she has committed, and to show no real signs of emotions, she is a loose cannon and is a threat to any community, especially a threat to unsuspecting males." (See Report, p. 11.)

"She was the first and only girlfriend I took home to my parents. I trusted Krystal with everything ... I had a boyish optimism about life. I was quick-witted and mentally sharp. And above all else, I had no idea such evil, like Krystal, even existed...In contrast with the way I feel Krystal was portrayed throughout the court process, I want the court to know that Krystal was a strong willed, intelligent woman with full control of her emotions and psychological abilities. She is the definition of wicked and manipulative. Unfortunately for society, Krystal has the capability to play or maneuver a person or situation just as someone would engage in chess. One person Krystal played was Gordon Todd Skinner. She always had the upper hand in the relationship. Krystal was not controlled or kidnapped by (Skinner)" (See Report, p. 8-9.)

"Many nights Krystal would sit in front of the mirror and would repeat to herself what she would say if ever caught for her and (Skinner's) illicit drug activity. Months after my body was discovered in Texas and the three were identified and located, the first assistant D.A. on the case had me come into his office to discuss the court case. When Krystal's pre-memorized story about her involvement with (Skinner) was regurgitated by (attorney) David Robertson, my stomach dropped and I felt faint: 'She was just a girl who got caught up in (Skinner's) manipulation and mind control' (italicized in the original)." (See Report, p. 9.)

"After my body was dumped, (Skinner) and (Cole) returned home and proceeded to contact several of my former friends and associates. She would ask them if they had heard from Brandon ... In my humble opinion, Krystal's involvement was greatly played down throughout the court proceedings. The moment I heard (attorney) Mr. Robertson express to me his feelings in regards to Krystal and it was verbatim the phrase Krystal would always practice in front of the mirror. I realized at the point Krystal's true side would never be brought out in court ...To think that my high school felony drug charge for an unprescribed pain medication carried a worse penaltythan Krystal's charge, makes me cringe. She always said, the two worst things that can happen to her are spending time in jail and./or getting a felony conviction. I pray earnestly that she gets both." (See Report, p. 10.)

"Here are a few things probably never mentioned about Krystal's premeditation and the execution of the of the plans in regards to my kidnapping:

Although she was broke, had no steady income and had previously helped me financially, Krystal secretly paid my apartment's rent several months ahead. She had told the landlord that her and I (sic) were about to go to California to take care of her dying father. I found this information out after the fact, and it still took me several years to realize she paid up my apartment so nobody would be looking for my body.

Two weeks prior to my kidnapping Krystal had spent a lot of time and energy in the search for an 'anointed' person to create her a pure white prayer robe that was designated for a special occasion. In sick twist of humor, Krystal wore the same prayer robe I helped design to perform seances over my body while I was being tortured. She would chant prayers over my body, offering up my soul as a sacrifice to Satan." (See Report, p. 9.)

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Well, that's my comment/diatribe.

My question is: Where is Brandon now? Still alive or did he commit suicide or die of complications from the assault? If he's alive, is he at peace? Thanks for any info.

Btw Krystle calls Brandon "Brad" in her interviews and (lame) book Lysergic. This is to "protect his identity". How considerate of her! What a cutie pie! And she has such an endearing smile! She reads Wikipedia and Erowid articles so damn cute on her vids! Sometimes she wears pigtails on her videos! Awwww! I heard she paints fractal artwork! I heard she has PTSD, god bless her! Trippy! I heard that when she first tried MDMA, she loved it! Awwwwwww. Don't ya love the way she giggles? Namaste, cutie pie!

This was a sickening case to hear about. This post, for me, is just to deal with some of the revulsion I felt when I heard about it. Ok, that's that off my chest.

--------------------"Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story."

She turned states witness against Skinner. To be more blunt; snitches gonna keep snitching. She's a truly evil individual, and I'd surely hate to be in her shoes when when she reaps the karma that she's sowed in this life.

Damn, I knew she was a snitch and a bad person, I had no idea of this aspect of the case. Absolutely disgusting, and it seems too detailed to be concocted. Being prayed over as a sacrifice to Satan while being mutilated and tortured! That's the definition of pure evil.

You'd be surprised what you can get away with if you are diagnosed with a mental disorder. Even more shocking is when people in complete control with pre-meditation commit horrible acts and people try to label them as mentally disillusioned.

1- This may not count for much, but I like to think I'm good at "reading people." And the first time I saw a few videos of this chick, I very quickly got the impression that she was deeply insane. To be fair, this impression of insanity could just be from all the crazy drugs she's eaten. People who trip a little "too much" can develop a similar kind of look. But this was very particular...

... it reminded me of a look I've only seen in one other place. My ex girlfriend. This girl was crazy. Seriously, deeply troubled, manipulative and damaged (and did I mention manipulative?) type batshit crazy. This chick was not only crazy and manipulative, but egotistical. She got off on manipulating people, feeling like she had the upper-hand...that kind of thing...

And krystle gets this look in her eyes which is more or less exactly the same... Maybe that doesn't mean anything... maybe it does.

2- I never knew just how much of a fucked up snitch this girl is. I have read some of the elements of the OP here... but usually in the context of Cole supposedly being a victim of this guy's kidnapping and manipulation as well.

However, googling to see if I could find out any more info relating to OP here, I came up with this:

Quote:January 5, 2011: Krystal Cole is the primary government witness on the indictment of her website advertisers in the matter of State of Kansas v. Clark Sloan (Jefferson Country, Kansas). Sloan and another party were indicted on twenty counts involving acts on or about February 4, 2010 in "unlawfully, willfully and feloniously use a communication facility in committing, causing, or facilitating the commission of a felony [] to with: Distribution or Possession of Mescaline (Count I), Bufotenine (Count II), Dimethyltryptamine (Count III), Lysergic Acid Amide (Count IV), 5-methoxy-N, N-dimethyltryptamine (Count V); and Possession with Intent to Distribute Mescaline (Count VI), Bufotenine (Count VII), Dimethytryptamine (Count VIII), Lysergic Acid Amide (Count IX), 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (Count X). Click here to read indictment of Sloan as an advertiser on Krystle Cole's website.

January 5, 2011: Krystal Cole is the primary government witness in Kansas v. Sloan in additional counts against her website advertisers in which the indictment states Sloan "solicited and paid Krystle Cole $500 in cash in both 2008 and 2009 for her to advertise for BBB ("Bouncing Bear Botanicals") on her website and to produce 'how to' videos intended to increase BBB sales of controlled substances," viz. Mescaline (Count XI), Bufotenine (Count XII), Dimethyltryptamine (Count XIII), Lysergic Acid Amide (Count XIV), 5-methoxy-N, N-dimethyltryptamine (Count XV), and related Counts XVI, XVIII, XVIII, XIX, and XX involving Krystal Cole receiving payment from her advertisers to produce 'how-to' videos concerning use of psychedelics. Click here to read indictment of Sloan as an advertiser on Krystle Cole's website.

January 5, 2011: Krystal Cole participates in the multiagency investigation of her advertisers, and is the principal witness in their indictment, with agencies including Kansas Bureau of Investigation, Johnson County Drug Crime Lab, DEA Task Force, Kansas Department of Revenue, Food and Drug Administration, Heart of America Chapter Computer Forensic Lab, Leavenworth Police Department, Allen County Sheriff's Department, Garnet Police Department, and Jefferson County Sheriff's Department. Click here to read indictment of Sloan as an advertiser on Krystle Cole's website.

So basically, this little twat turned snitch on the very advertisers that filled her pockets and allowed her to run her crappy website.

Completely disgusting.

OP (and others) wondering how she could kidnap and torture someone and get away with it? It's because of all her lovely snitching. Not just in the other case against her former LSD-gurus, but against her own advertisers! Do take note of the date here:

Quote:September 17, 2012: The federal district court in the Northern District of Oklahoma stated that "on September 11, 2003 Krystal Cole was charged with Conspiracy to Commit Kidnapping (Count I) and Kidnapping (Count II)," and "on November 15, 2006 Krystal Ann Cole entered a plea of nolo contendere to Accessory After the Fact Kidnapping (Court II); the Court I charge of conspiracy was dismissed. On March 27 Krystle Cole received a deferred sentence." (in exchange for her testimony as a government witness). The Court further noted Skinner "introduced Cole to DEA agents."

So why did she agree to testify against bouncing bear? Did she still have federal BS hanging over her head? Does she even still run that crappy website? Why would anyone give her patronage after this bullshit?

After reading all this, she really does seem like a fucking slimeball.

Quote:SteethDurvey said:I could care less about narcs narcing on other narcs (which is the bottom line in the Pickard/Skinner soap opera). Poor widdle diddums.

However, TORTURE, FORCED PERMANENT STERILIZATION AND GENITAL MUTILATION of an 18 year old boy, FORCED PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE, both organic and psychological, to that kid... THIS was true evil.

Why isn't Krystle Cole in jail, for life, like Skinner is?

I pray Skinner is never released.

Despite the twisted shit that happened to this brad character, you really think he was unaware of the shady fucks he was getting in bed with? I'm not saying he deserved what happened to him at all but when you get into deep water you have to be ready for sharks. (or narcs, in this case )

The fact the she figured "oh I have a new boyfriend now, better rat my old one out to the dea" proves she is the worst kind of filth there is.

You know she's been invited to speak at the telluride mushroom festival in colorado? on entheogens of all things. As though this brainded leech is qualified to even have an opinion on such things just because she's taken a few drugs.

You know how weed is legal in colorado now right? well it's still illegal federally and they've invited a federal government informant... to speak... about drugs.

Quote:Dark_Star said:She turned states witness against Skinner. To be more blunt; snitches gonna keep snitching. She's a truly evil individual, and I'd surely hate to be in her shoes when when she reaps the karma that she's sowed in this life.

Im just gonna be devil's advocate here but....putting aside that she was already raped and tortured by this guy... Say you felt that your life was genuinely in danger. Say someone who was legitimately insane was threatening to kill you, and they had the money to do so if they wanted and were completely serious about the threat... What would you do? what COULD you do? Would you risk spending half your life in jail defending your own life? Would you spend the rest of your life afraid for your life? She felt that Skinner was a direct threat to her and her love one's life. What other options did she have in this situation?

I hate snitches as much as anyone else here. But this chick was in WAY WAY over her head. I dont think she would have the mental capacity to make all these youtube videos (in her eyes, positive videos for safe psychedelic use) if she truly felt guilty for what she did. It's a possibility she is not the horrible monster most people see her as

But think about it for a moment. If you were in her shoes, what would you have done differently?

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Quote:danlennon3 said:Im just gonna be devil's advocate here but....putting aside that she was already raped and tortured by this guy... Say you felt that your life was genuinely in danger. Say someone who was legitimately insane was threatening to kill you, and they had the money to do so if they wanted and were completely serious about the threat... What would you do? what COULD you do? Would you risk spending half your life in jail defending your own life? Would you spend the rest of your life afraid for your life? She felt that Skinner was a direct threat to her and her love one's life. What other options did she have in this situation?

I hate snitches as much as anyone else here. But this chick was in WAY WAY over her head. I dont think she would have the mental capacity to make all these youtube videos (in her eyes, positive videos for safe psychedelic use) if she truly felt guilty for what she did. It's a possibility she is not the horrible monster most people see her as

But think about it for a moment. If you were in her shoes, what would you have done differently?

what The aphabet soup involvement in the whole deal is just as bad.

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Quote:CidneyIndole said:1- This may not count for much, but I like to think I'm good at "reading people." And the first time I saw a few videos of this chick, I very quickly got the impression that she was deeply insane. To be fair, this impression of insanity could just be from all the crazy drugs she's eaten. People who trip a little "too much" can develop a similar kind of look. But this was very particular...

... it reminded me of a look I've only seen in one other place. My ex girlfriend. This girl was crazy. Seriously, deeply troubled, manipulative and damaged (and did I mention manipulative?) type batshit crazy. This chick was not only crazy and manipulative, but egotistical. She got off on manipulating people, feeling like she had the upper-hand...that kind of thing...

And krystle gets this look in her eyes which is more or less exactly the same... Maybe that doesn't mean anything... maybe it does.

bang on. I got the exact same impression that something was clearly not right about her.

Quote:danlennon3 said:Are they gonna have a green screen behind her while she talks about how cool psychedelics are?

hahahahaha, lets all bring those new laser pointers that draw images on projector screens and crudley doodle words of extreme hatred and mushrooms resembling penises that are shooting spores all over her.

For everyone saying karma will get her or that she will go to hell when she dies ever think that maybe just pure evil always wins? . Nothing is going to happen to her. She will live out the rest of her life just fine while that boy lives out the rest of his life in pain and suffering. You see it's shit like this that makes me feel sick about the new age hippy movement. Psychedelics don't make you into a better person and hippies can be the most fake poisonous people on the planet. Virtuous, pretentious, evil fuckers.

Quote:liberty hunter said:For everyone saying karma will get her or that she will go to hell when she dies ever think that maybe just pure evil always wins? . Nothing is going to happen to her. She will live out the rest of her life just fine while that boy lives out the rest of his life in pain and suffering. You see it's shit like this that makes me feel sick about the new age hippy movement. Psychedelics don't make you into a better person and hippies can be the most fake poisonous people on the planet. Virtuous, pretentious, evil fuckers.

When the time comes you can be among the first to upload yourself into a fake virtual reality where copious amounts of THC and LSD can be flooded into your body at all times and you will live in an eternal paradise. I will reject this reality and live the rest of my life in pain and suffering just to prove a point. Fuck Runescape, fuck your drugs, and fuck your spirituality. Fuck the internet also. I'm turning this off I can feel my soul slowly being drained as I type this.

Cole announces that she's no longer going to be speaking at Shroomfest. Skip to 2:20 if you don't want to sit through the rest of the garbage.

--------------------"Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story."

Wow, I've read all the Pickard transcripts from the trial online, but the OP had some info I'd never seen before. Also the info on the Skinner Timeline was all new to me too. Really disturbing to say the least.

Fuck, if I went through half of that stuff while tripping I would kill myself the first chance I got. Honestly I think that is the worst torture I have ever heard described especially since she was very familiar with psychedelic drugs and how they can bring any situation to 11/10 in a snap.

She always seemed a bit off when I watched her videos. But I'm not gonna lie she has shared some interesting information that I would have otherwise never known still a cunted cunt though imo

--------------------Every little thing is gonna be alright All you need is love Nobody's right, Nobody's wrong, Life's just a game it's just one epic holiday!

Yeah, I remember. Shroom fest promoter was talking about who the guest speakers were and krystal cole was one of them. We all started bagging on her, so she made an account in defence of herself and tried pleading her case.

Her zero mushroom rating from me got deleted by the mods

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And when I see you coming down the line
With eyes wide open
Somewhere in between the past and future
Where you drift in time
And you can see a different point of view

I always make a point of explaining the reason why, when I give a zero. It seems kind of pointless, otherwise. On the other hand, someone like Krystle knows damn well why she's getting zeros, so I'm not sure that's really necessary (aside from the rule, which I had no clue about...)

Cole announces that she's no longer going to be speaking at Shroomfest. Skip to 2:20 if you don't want to sit through the rest of the garbage.

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"i don't have enough MONEY for security *wink wink*" - I actually don't. Rather than getting a $50,000 a year job with my master's degree. I keep choosing to continue my work with NeuroSoup. In return, my income stays at around poverty level. I have enough income to pay for my needs, yet not enough to﻿ waste on extras like bodyguards. I don't mind living this way.I actually prefer it because there are things of much higher value than money - like helping others. What are you doing to help others?

Krystle Cole is a ho, who imprisoned Leonard Pickards soul.Acts like shes innocent and didnt know, the DEA wouldbust the missile's Pope. She should be lynched with rope,Just kidding its a joke, like her green-screen videos. I could go on for ever about how shesmade more of a livin snitchin then she did whenshe did splits on a strippers pole. LSD where did you go? Vanished, and why? All because of the blow sniffingho, Atlast my end to an ode, this abysmal poem, about a rat faced girlnamed Krystle Cole.

Quote:Cannibal Concubine said:Wouldn't you only have the authority to remove the invalid ratings if they were reported first?

No, I can go through ratings and remove ones that don't follow the guidelines. Doesn't matter if it is reported or not. Reporting them just directs a mods attention there.

Quote:teamkiller said:neurosoup once made a video about alan rockefeller and i think they've talked before, so he may be distressed by the level of distaste for her here on the shroomery.

I wouldn't really say we have spoken - she sent me some short messages asking permission to use my pics and I said yes, not exactly a conversation.

I do think many people are just jumping on the hate bandwagon for the hell of it, or because they lack a full understanding of the situation.

It's like in high school, where one person would hate someone, and they would get all their friends to hate that person too, even though that person didn't necessarily deserve all the hate.

I re-read the OP in this thread, and I'm not sure what to think. I'd be more inclined to blame Skinner for the kidnapping than Krystal, but I wasn't there so I won't pass judgment...

Also Skinner should be blamed for narcing on the LSD lab. Krystal's role in that was pretty minor. I think a lot of people confuse the situation without looking into it very much. Krystal didn't bring down the LSD lab, she was just there...she plead the 5th at trial and therefore didn't have to testify against anyone.

I think her videos are both awful and cool at the same time.

In any case she appears to be trying to do positive things with her life - speaking, legalizing psychedelics and making videos. I'll try to reserve judgment and stay out of it....

Yeah, i mean i accept that i don't really know the situation. I find her videos to be petty, and it irritates me given her past, she of all people would try and make a living as a psychedelic role model.

I would like to see her get caught in some lies, because its my gut intuition she is not a great person. She likes to repeat how she "took the 5th" over and over, but that was after years of providing DEA agents with information... pretty sure she would have testified at trial if she was threatened with charges herself. picard was way fucked anyway, but she's not a bro.

Quote:Cannibal Concubine said:Wouldn't you only have the authority to remove the invalid ratings if they were reported first?

No, I can go through ratings and remove ones that don't follow the guidelines. Doesn't matter if it is reported or not. Reporting them just directs a mods attention there.

Quote:teamkiller said:neurosoup once made a video about alan rockefeller and i think they've talked before, so he may be distressed by the level of distaste for her here on the shroomery.

I wouldn't really say we have spoken - she sent me some short messages asking permission to use my pics and I said yes, not exactly a conversation.

I do think many people are just jumping on the hate bandwagon for the hell of it, or because they lack a full understanding of the situation.

She posted to defend herself and didn't even address the torture and BBB narcing. I'm all for recognizing people can change and all for forgiveness, but I've seen no indication there's any change. Her horseshit about making 50k a year on her masters degree strikes me as odd too- who's going to hire someone with her background? Not very many I'd reckon.

Quote:I do think many people are just jumping on the hate bandwagon for the hell of it, or because they lack a full understanding of the situation.

Really ? I think you lack a full understanding of the situation.

Quote:Within the report, kidnapping and torture victim Brandon Green states (Report, p. 4) that after kidnapping by Skinner and Krystal Cole, he was: 1.injected with unknown chemicals and drugs in his penis, testicles, back, arms and legs. 2.hit in the groin repeatedly. 3.kicked in the groin until he blacked out. 4.forced to drink an unknown substance and was also forced to swallow some form of "parasitic eggs." 5.not given any food and very little fluids during his captivity. 6.bound with duct tape by the hands and feet and beaten repeatedly. 7.duct-taped across the mouth to prevent his calls for help. 8.tied around the testicles and/or penis with a telephone cord and suspended from a bed. 9.pulled with the telephone cord around his penis until cartilage "popped." 10.subjected to a deep cut into his penis with a knife or razor blade. 11.subjected to bleach being poured over his groin area. 12."brutally shaved" by Krystle Cole of his scalp, eyebrows, genitalia and his entire body. 13.subjected to severe trauma to the rectum with an unknown instrument.

Is this not good enough for you ? Do you still think she didn't " necessarily deserve all the hate ? " I know she made this video where she mentions you, I've seen your posts where you say you even agree with her snitching on Pickard. And now you're deleting her bad ratings ? How pathetic.

You need to stop defending her like that and realize who she really is. She kept this kid captive for days, injected drugs into his penis, poured bleach over it, beat him unconscious. She's a monster, she deserves to die.

Quote:Constantine said:Really ? I think you lack a full understanding of the situation.

For sure! I haven't studied the issues in depth.

Sketchy people are not my area of expertise...

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Quote:Within the report, kidnapping and torture victim Brandon Green states (Report, p. 4) that after kidnapping by Skinner and Krystal Cole, he was: 1.injected with unknown chemicals and drugs in his penis, testicles, back, arms and legs. 2.hit in the groin repeatedly. 3.kicked in the groin until he blacked out. 4.forced to drink an unknown substance and was also forced to swallow some form of "parasitic eggs." 5.not given any food and very little fluids during his captivity. 6.bound with duct tape by the hands and feet and beaten repeatedly. 7.duct-taped across the mouth to prevent his calls for help. 8.tied around the testicles and/or penis with a telephone cord and suspended from a bed. 9.pulled with the telephone cord around his penis until cartilage "popped." 10.subjected to a deep cut into his penis with a knife or razor blade. 11.subjected to bleach being poured over his groin area. 12."brutally shaved" by Krystle Cole of his scalp, eyebrows, genitalia and his entire body. 13.subjected to severe trauma to the rectum with an unknown instrument.

Is this not good enough for you ? Do you still think she didn't " necessarily deserve all the hate ? "

That is bad, but I don't know how much of that she did and how much Skinner did. It would make more sense that Skinner was the driving force behind that - He was the jealous jilted ex-boyfriend in the situation.

Quote:I've seen your posts where you say you even agree with her snitching on Pickard.

I didn't say that. I don't think Pickard should have been snitched on, he is a good dude.

Quote:And now you're deleting her bad ratings ? How pathetic.

Only the ones that don't conform to the ratings guidelines.

Quote:You need to stop defending her like that and realize who she really is. She kept this kid captive for days, injected drugs into his penis, poured bleach over it, beat him unconscious. She's a monster, she deserves to die.

I think Skinner did that stuff, and she was in the middle of it. But maybe her participation was more active....

With regards to OP's question in this thread about why she isn't in jail....She had her day in criminal court WRT the kidnapping and was given a deferred sentence. They can't go back and charge her again.

Quote:johnm214 said:She posted to defend herself and di1dn't even address the torture and BBB narcing. I'm all for recognizing people can change and all for forgiveness, but I've seen no indication there's any change.

The BBB narcing is pretty concerning. I didn't realize until the other day that she was the main witness in that case.

In light of that, it makes a lot of sense that people would be angry with her.

She posted to defend herself and didn't even address the torture and BBB narcing. I'm all for recognizing people can change and all for forgiveness, but I've seen no indication there's any change.

Well said.

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Quote:AbstraKt_I_Am said:Krystle Cole is a ho, who imprisoned Leonard Pickards soul.Acts like shes innocent and didnt know, the DEA wouldbust the missile's Pope. She should be lynched with rope,Just kidding its a joke, like her green-screen videos. I could go on for ever about how shesmade more of a livin snitchin then she did whenshe did splits on a strippers pole. LSD where did you go? Vanished, and why? All because of the blow sniffingho, Atlast my end to an ode, this abysmal poem, about a rat faced girlnamed Krystle Cole.

I have no idea who these people are or what you guys are talking about but I enjoyed this rap. Lol

Alan-- you don't know how much of that stuff was done by Skinner and how much she did?

How about, if she participated in the torture in any capacity, she is a scumbag? I don't like to look at things as too black and white, and sometimes stories are more complicated than they appear, but I think you need to perhaps work on reading more carefully. This victim of kidnapping and torture has accused her of being a willing participant and getting off on the torture.

I ask you-- what reason would this man have to lie, if she truly had no part in it? What would he have to gain?

And you don't find it a little odd, that in her little video response she addressed the snitching issue directly, and completely ignored the allegations that she willingly participated in torture? Not a single mention...just geez guize, why all teh hate for wittle ole me?

If I were falsely accused of that, I can guarantee you that would be the first thing I mentioned. At least it would have been mentioned, at all. "Oh, and btw, this guy accusing me is full of shit, I was under duress, and I think all the drugs skinner fed him messed with his mind."

Quote:Alan Rockefeller said:In light of that, it makes a lot of sense that people would be angry with her.

And yes, Alan, it is pretty bad what she did regarding Bouncing Bear. Better question, is WHY she did that, if she already got her defferred sentence for the other thing?

But that is not why people are mad at her, as you suggest. I think you need to re-read OP here, and more carefully. To be honest, I can't really judge her with regard to the LSD and the alleged snitching there. The thing that outraged me, is that this girl was asked to speak about entheogens at this mushroom fest.

Look up the meaning of the word entheogen. It has spiritual connotations.

Why do we want to listen to a sociopath who gets off on genital torture, talk about how like... spiritual tripping can be, man. Like really beautiful and stuff....

Give me a fucking break before I puke in my mouth.

You need to upgrade your bullshit detector, my friend. And again, I urge you to re-read OP and consider what is actually being said, and why this guy would say that if it weren't true, if there's any way a man can be mistaken about that kind of thing (I'm not sure there is)

Quote:CidneyIndole said:Alan-- you don't know how much of that stuff was done by Skinner and how much she did?

No.

Quote:How about, if she participated in the torture in any capacity, she is a scumbag?

That's fair, but she doesn't seem like the kind of person that would just go around kidnapping and torturing people. Seems more like she got in over her head...

Quote:but I think you need to perhaps work on reading more carefully.

I think I am going to go look at some mushrooms under the microscope instead.

Quote:This victim of kidnapping and torture has accused her of being a willing participant and getting off on the torture.

That's possible.

Quote:I ask you-- what reason would this man have to lie, if she truly had no part in it? What would he have to gain?

If you mean the OP, I don't get the impression that he is lying.

Quote:and completely ignored the allegations that she willingly participated in torture? Not a single mention...just geez guize, why all teh hate for wittle ole me?

Usually when someone completely ignores some allegations while responding to others, the ones that are ignored are true.

Quote:And yes, Alan, it is pretty bad what she did regarding Bouncing Bear. Better question, is WHY she did that, if she already got her defferred sentence for the other thing?

The feds probably told her that she would go to jail for BBB's sales and for the kidnapping if she didn't turn CI. Which is of course an awful excuse, and it's beginning to look like she's ruined a few peoples lives in order to continue her drug use. Perhaps an ongoing pattern of behaviour...

Quote:You need to upgrade your bullshit detector, my friend.

The more I hear about these people, the less I want anything to do with them. I believe that every minute spent thinking about these people is wasted time.

Quote:I ask you-- what reason would this man have to lie, if she truly had no part in it? What would he have to gain?

If you mean the OP, I don't get the impression that he is lying.

no, cidney is clearly refering to the testimony of the 18 year old boy who got his dick cut into ribbons by his girlfriend (krystle cole, just incase you were to stoned to actually READ the first post. no sweat, shit happens)

she's a pretty fucking evil person who has done more than enough evil to deserve to be rotting in prison for the rest of her life.

and yet she's scott free and doesn't even have a fucking job.

shit gets my blood boiling.

don't be stupid. there is never a good reason to shoot LSD into someone's dick and then hang him by the ceiling from it.

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That is the lie that she rehearsed in the mirror for months prior to her arrest, it is the lie she repeats endlessly on her website, in her videos, in the shameful Vice documentary, and in her book.

This is the reality:

"Krystal was a strong willed, intelligent woman with full control of her emotions and psychological abilities. She is the definition of wicked and manipulative. Unfortunately for society, Krystal has the capability to play or maneuver a person or situation just as someone would engage in chess. One person Krystal played was Gordon Todd Skinner. She always had the upper hand in the relationship. Krystal was not controlled or kidnapped by (Skinner)."

"Krystal's involvement was greatly played down throughout the court proceedings. The moment I heard (attorney) Mr. Robertson express to me his feelings in regards to Krystal and it was verbatim the phrase Krystal would always practice in front of the mirror. I realized at the point Krystal's true side would never be brought out in court."

These are the words of Brandon Green, Krystal Cole's victim, documented in the following Tulsa County Corrections report:

In the comment stream on the Vice documentary about Krystal Cole (an annoyingly obtuse, lazy piece of work, in my opinion), quite a heated discussion has flared up between a crusader of justice furious about Cole's freedom and someone who says he's Krystal Cole's new fiance.

Cole's new fiance, (YouTube: "GettingHighWithGreg") says he's read emails sent between Krystal and Brandon Green in which Brandon apologizes for lying to the police about Krystal's involvement in the kidnapping and torture. Greg says Brandon will be coming forward to clear Krystal's name for the kidnapping and torture.

She is still the same Krystal Cole who has cooperated with the DEA on numerous occasions to save her own skin, but if Brandon Green really does come forward, that will be quite an interesting development.

he has forgiven Skinner, but he can't stand the fact that Kristle Cole didn't go to jail (she hasn't even paid the $52,109 restitution: just $4,000)

here is a passage about her:"...Cole also said she had not granted permission to use her name, likeness, book, or life story when we contacted her with questions for this article. Green, seeking closure and understanding, attempted to contact Cole several times in recent years, to no avail; she replied to Green’s messages soon after hearing from us. She convinced him, for a short time, that she tried to rescue him during the kidnapping. “Honestly, I believe you,” Green wrote in an email to Cole. Cole then asked Green for his permission to publish their email exchange (with her edits) on her website. Then Green heard Hauck’s version of the events. He felt once again betrayed by Cole. “How could I be so gullible?” he asked. If Green senses that justice has not been served, it’s in the matter of Krystle Cole’s involvement. “Krystle should be in jail,” he says. “I feel like Todd is on the last end of his crazy life, but Krystle is at the very beginning of it. Krystle has been trained by the very best. I would feel more comfortable with Todd being out of jail than Krystle staying free…. I feel like Todd’s ceiling is Krystle’s floor. That is why I feel like she is more dangerous. I feel like she was able to consume everything Todd had, then pushed him out of the way and continued going.”

Brandon Green, ten years after his kidnapping.

another interesting passage about Leonard Pickard:"Leonard Pickard claims to have met Cole on only one occasion, and has not read her book. Cole’s actions have done little to help his situation. “She is also deleterious to the case by promoting her various fantasies, derived largely from her brief marriage to an unreliable informant, or from her scrutiny of documents concerning sophisticated interactions about which she has little experience in interpreting,” Pickard wrote from prison. “Some feel she frantically is scrambling to some peak of notoriety in the absence of other distinguishing accomplishments. We, as observers, are saddened…The spectacle of Cole commenting on the case to her profit, eagerly filling a void that has not yet been addressed by the principals, is rather as if Judas’s wife was the sole public source of information on the Crucifixion.”

In an odd turn of events, Pickard has recently been calling Brandon Green, with the explanation that he would simply like to be friends. Green enjoys the calls, he says."

Quote:eumeme said:he has forgiven Skinner, but he can't stand the fact that Kristle Cole didn't go to jail (she hasn't even paid the $52,109 restitution: just $4,000)

contempt of court, it's a civil case but child support offenders are frequently locked up on the same charge for a civil settlement, his other recourse is also to seek a judgement to place liens against allher properties and assets until the debt is paid

Quote:here is a passage about her:"...Cole also said she had not granted permission to use her name, likeness, book, or life story when we contacted her with questions for this article.

cole made herself a public figure, her name is in the news papers, it's in court documents and the public records, he doesnt meed her permission to use her name or likeness as long as he has permission of the creator of any photograph of her he's legally allowed to publish it, in other words, if I take a picture of her with or without her permission, I can grant to rights to publication to anyone or place it into the public domain for anyone to use for any purpose

I stumbled across the NeuroSoup website about 72 hours ago. I was excited about it. It seemed like it had a lot of good information. The girl in the videos was sorta cute; not a great speaker but likable. Somewhere I got the idea that she might be a biochemistry student. I did not know who Krystal Cole was.

I've just begun reading the story at http://thislandpress.com/gordon-todd-skinner/ I'm not sure if I'll finish it. Regardless of what the truth really is, I think she deserves pity rather than hate. What a miserable and horrifying life she has led.

Quote:loginNameInUse said:I stumbled across the NeuroSoup website about 72 hours ago. I was excited about it. It seemed like it had a lot of good information. The girl in the videos was sorta cute; not a great speaker but likable. Somewhere I got the idea that she might be a biochemistry student. I did not know who Krystal Cole was.

I've just begun reading the story at http://thislandpress.com/gordon-todd-skinner/&nbsp; I'm not sure if I'll finish it. Regardless of what the truth really is, I think she deserves pity rather than hate. What a miserable and horrifying life she has led.

Quote:loginNameInUse said:I stumbled across the NeuroSoup website about 72 hours ago. I was excited about it. It seemed like it had a lot of good information. The girl in the videos was sorta cute; not a great speaker but likable. Somewhere I got the idea that she might be a biochemistry student. I did not know who Krystal Cole was.

I've just begun reading the story at http://thislandpress.com/gordon-todd-skinner/&nbsp; I'm not sure if I'll finish it. Regardless of what the truth really is, I think she deserves pity rather than hate. What a miserable and horrifying life she has led.

I don't think I can watch the NeuroSoup videos anymore.

She deserves to be fucking dead in a ditch along with all those other pieces of shit she associated with. She is the most hated person on the online drug community, and the fact that those stupid fucking videos actually get watched by so many people pisses me off the most. Fuck her and everything she loves.

Quote:loginNameInUse said:I stumbled across the NeuroSoup website about 72 hours ago. I was excited about it. It seemed like it had a lot of good information. The girl in the videos was sorta cute; not a great speaker but likable. Somewhere I got the idea that she might be a biochemistry student. I did not know who Krystal Cole was.

I've just begun reading the story at http://thislandpress.com/gordon-todd-skinner/ ; I'm not sure if I'll finish it. Regardless of what the truth really is, I think she deserves pity rather than hate. What a miserable and horrifying life she has led.

I don't think I can watch the NeuroSoup videos anymore.

don't believe her bullshit. i gave her the benefit of the doubt until i found out she married skinner after they kidnapped and tortured brandon.

Quote:xanderofpella said:don't believe her bullshit. i gave her the benefit of the doubt until i found out she married skinner after they kidnapped and tortured brandon.

As much as I dislike her for what she did to Brandon, I dislike her as much for snitching on Bouncing Bear. She could almost make the claim that the torture thing was youthful indiscretion. Something she did when she was young, on drugs, under the control of a madman, etc. But to then snitch on Bouncing Bear, who allowed her to make a living without sucking dicks, years later shows that she's just a terrible person to the core.

For rating out BBB she's a true cunt. Its like she hates other people getting high. I knew about that and fuck her right?

After I read the OP I couldn't fucking believe it. I mean I knew about her turning snitch and I knew that she'd kidnapped somebody. But I'd had no idea that she was capable of that appalling shit. Could you imagine being a young dumb 18 year old and falling for an okay looking chick with lots of LSD; only to be kidnapped and tortured under the influence of some crazy psychotropics. I couldn't even imagine...What a truly disgusting human-being she is. I'm a little iffy on the finer points though. Why exactly did she kidnap this guy?

Quote:Learyfan said:As much as I dislike her for what she did to Brandon, I dislike her as much for snitching on Bouncing Bear. She could almost make the claim that the torture thing was youthful indiscretion. Something she did when she was young, on drugs, under the control of a madman, etc. But to then snitch on Bouncing Bear, who allowed her to make a living without sucking dicks, years later shows that she's just a terrible person to the core.

Well said my friend.

I thought there was something off about her the first time I saw her videos. Actually her website isn't that great. You can find better information that's easier to read on a few different sites.

Quote:Illyabo said:god this topic is so insignificantstop bumping this shit!

If you think naming a snitch is insignificant go fucking post on reddit or totse. This is important information for people that don't know, the same type of people that frequent that cunts site. If you don't see what she did wrong you don't belong here. Fuck snitches, I hope everyone of them dies a horrible death (including my exfriends that went that route.) Its even worse than being a pig, they are the scum of the earth.

Quote:Illyabo said:god this topic is so insignificantstop bumping this shit!

If you think naming a snitch is insignificant go fucking post on reddit or totse. This is important information for people that don't know, the same type of people that frequent that cunts site. If you don't see what she did wrong you don't belong here. Fuck snitches, I hope everyone of them dies a horrible death (including my exfriends that went that route.) Its even worse than being a pig, they are the scum of the earth.

wtf ok lol you don't even know what happenedthe guy she tortured and however else didn't get tortured is lucky yes she's a pathetic sad human being but i don't care bout this shit anymoreand the people who did her acid don't either everytime you do a black market drug shit like this can happenyou guys are making this dolt famous/infamous by buying into this shit

I don't want to get into what snitches have done to my family, what snitches from my family have done to me. You think seeing your best friend died stings, think about what seeing your best friend rat on his friends feels like. My ex-best friend is still alive and I hope he dies. Its a horrible feeling, I honestly don't wish it on anyone. Snitching is worse than dying, its like selling your soul to the devil and I don't even believe in that type of shit. It killed a part of me that he wouldn't have had he died. I don't even want to talk about this shit to you, why the fuck are you defending a snitch? I don't like talking about this shit to make a point.

Quote:fapjack said:I don't want to get into what snitches have done to my family, what snitches from my family have done to me. You think seeing your best friend died stings, think about what seeing your best friend rat on his friends feels like. My ex-best friend is still alive and I hope he dies. Its a horrible feeling, I honestly don't wish it on anyone. Snitching is worse than dying, its like selling your soul to the devil and I don't even believe in that type of shit. It killed a part of me that he wouldn't have had he died. I don't even want to talk about this shit to you, why the fuck are you defending a snitch? I don't like talking about this shit to make a point.

Thank u for this information and now really have strong dislike for cole she use to be psychedelic queen in my eyes but this isn't something somebody with a title like that would dodge is a very fake person

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Krystle Cole is a horrible criminal who tortured another human being until they were permanently maimed (should have been been charged with mayhem and got 25). She is a narc. She is ugly. I hope all the bad things in life happen to her and only her. I hope she dies slowly and painfully in an avoidable accident that is her fault. i hope she gets cunt cancer.

Quote:mushmafia said:Krystle Cole is a horrible criminal who tortured another human being until they were permanently maimed (should have been been charged with mayhem and got 25). She is a narc. She is ugly. I hope all the bad things in life happen to her and only her. I hope she dies slowly and painfully in an avoidable accident that is her fault. i hope she gets cunt cancer.

Thank you for the 90's Pickard! A man imprisoned only for knowledge.

Fuck you Nuerosoup, you cunt bitch whore

Pickard is a piece if shit too.He is a snitch.

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It was weird but I went to that bitches website amd I heard her talking about the silk road. I remember my buddy telling me about the silk road so I did a google search and it led me to several place and this one article.

It's legitimate, Sheeks. Some people may be jumping on it just because they enjoy being hateful but who Cole is and what she's done is deplorable.

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I doubt it. She knows how much everybody hates her skeezy ass here. She's a piece of shit, and I don't think that she'd wanna be reminded all the time of that. As this comes up periodically all over the boards.

She'd rather stick to her own website and her youtube channel where she can dictate the comments that can stay.

Quote:Legend said:Can someone help me find a picture of Brandon Green? No way he deserved that mutilation.

Before, and after pics would be prefered, but i just wanna see what he looks(ed) like.

Sup Legend! Didn't read the full thread so I'm not sure what all has been said on this, but there's an extensive article that really wasn't all that old on the whole situation. Apparently Green is still severely affected by what happened that night. And I mean physically. Like he can barely wear jeans to this day because he's so sensitive down there.

What I want to know is whether or not she actually had a sacrificial robe made to religiously sacrifice Green or if that was just all the fucked up psychedelics/disassociatives that they were feeding him.

Quote:Legend said:Can someone help me find a picture of Brandon Green? No way he deserved that mutilation.

Before, and after pics would be prefered, but i just wanna see what he looks(ed) like.

Sup Legend! Didn't read the full thread so I'm not sure what all has been said on this, but there's an extensive article that really wasn't all that old on the whole situation. Apparently Green is still severely affected by what happened that night. And I mean physically. Like he can barely wear jeans to this day because he's so sensitive down there.

sup niffla, hows it been? feel like we havent talked in forever. do you not post as much?

but god damn, thats so shitty. i wish i knew what he did to deserve what happened.

Yeah man it definitely been a minute. Just haven't been posting as much for whatever reason.

But yeah, I can't remember exactly -- maybe somebody can give a more accurate version than me, but if I recall correctly Skinner was pissed at Green because Green & Cole were fucking at one point or some shit. Then when he/Cole got Green in a room all fucked up beyond comprehension they started the torturing. Something like that.

After reading what happened to the dude i would probably volunteer myself if Krystle Cole ever needed a new gimp boy to inject DMT into his cock vein, sad bit is I'm not even joking that is some hardecor fetishist shit right there.

She was an easily manipulated opportunist cunt who would sell her own mom down the river to save her own ass. Everyone is bitching about her snitching out BBB, yet no one faults those idiots for doing business with this cunt. Fuck her and fuck BBB while we are at it. Charging 1000% for RCs sprayed on herbs never won them any points from me, then trying to kickstart their legal expenses always seemed pretty sad to me. I always was amazed shroomery had them as a sponsor.

The only thing I really know about this is that pickard was selling really horribl acid, like the BLACK stuff, which is the most unpure lsd you could ever get. As per snitching, I'm sure she had her reasons.

Quote:occollegeboi said:The only thing I really know about this is that pickard was selling really horribl acid, like the BLACK stuff, which is the most unpure lsd you could ever get. As per snitching, I'm sure she had her reasons.

But some of her videos have helped me in regard to tripping.

hurr durr did you even read the fucking thread?

she took place in the torturing and chemical castration of a fucking 18 year old kid

Quote:occollegeboi said:The only thing I really know about this is that pickard was selling really horribl acid, like the BLACK stuff, which is the most unpure lsd you could ever get. As per snitching, I'm sure she had her reasons.

But some of her videos have helped me in regard to tripping.

hurr durr did you even read the fucking thread?

she took place in the torturing and chemical castration of a fucking 18 year old kid

something about this just seems like it would be great time, idk having hallucinogens injected into genitialia while being brutalised just sounds really fun to me for some reason... looking at deviant porn has truly ruined me

I like the videos she makes about her own PERSONAL experiences. Or about theories. The one she made about using biofeedback to help with comeup anxiety really helped me.

I really like the video she made about entities while on DMT and other psychedelics. She goes into how the mayans probably used psychedelics and that's why they built the pyramids and shit. I don't remember everything she said but it was very interesting.

But I can tell by the way she talks that she has done one too many psychedelics. A little loopy. But not completely gone like some other people who have done too much psychedelics.

I can't believe people are still worked up about this shit. Ancient history.

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