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Ah yeah, in his defence, he was smashed. I don't know why the article didn't start with telling us he was drunk, that way we could all know it wasn't his fault! That said, if he was banned from speaking to her, why is she going to his flat?

Ah yeah, in his defence, he was smashed. I don't know why the article didn't start with telling us he was drunk, that way we could all know it wasn't his fault!
That said, if he was banned from speaking to her, why is she going to his flat?theDmonster

Ah yeah, in his defence, he was smashed. I don't know why the article didn't start with telling us he was drunk, that way we could all know it wasn't his fault! That said, if he was banned from speaking to her, why is she going to his flat?

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l'anglais says...10:02am Tue 26 Feb 13

I'm tired of reading of these low lifes misdemeanors. Could we round them all up and put them on an island somewhere, out of earshot of Daily Echo reporters.

I'm tired of reading of these low lifes misdemeanors.
Could we round them all up and put them on an island somewhere, out of earshot of Daily Echo reporters.l'anglais

I'm tired of reading of these low lifes misdemeanors. Could we round them all up and put them on an island somewhere, out of earshot of Daily Echo reporters.

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suzigirl says...10:42am Tue 26 Feb 13

These partner beaters have a way of making the partner/ex partner feel sorry for them so they lower their defences, make contact with them and then it all starts again!

These partner beaters have a way of making the partner/ex partner feel sorry for them so they lower their defences, make contact with them and then it all starts again!suzigirl

These partner beaters have a way of making the partner/ex partner feel sorry for them so they lower their defences, make contact with them and then it all starts again!

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R.R1989 says...3:04pm Tue 26 Feb 13

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here.
Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family.
If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??R.R1989

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

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rozmister says...3:47pm Tue 26 Feb 13

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

[quote][p][bold]R.R1989[/bold] wrote:
The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here.
Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family.
If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??[/p][/quote]Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order.
There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour.
I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.rozmister

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

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sunny southbourne says...4:32pm Tue 26 Feb 13

I cant believe the echo were allowed to print the name of the victim! What effect will this have on her family as well? And her, she is not at fault, yet everyone now knows this has happened to her, if she wants them to know or not? Unless she specifically asked the echo to name her, this should not be allowed, should it??

I cant believe the echo were allowed to print the name of the victim! What effect will this have on her family as well?
And her, she is not at fault, yet everyone now knows this has happened to her, if she wants them to know or not?
Unless she specifically asked the echo to name her, this should not be allowed, should it??sunny southbourne

I cant believe the echo were allowed to print the name of the victim! What effect will this have on her family as well? And her, she is not at fault, yet everyone now knows this has happened to her, if she wants them to know or not? Unless she specifically asked the echo to name her, this should not be allowed, should it??

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R.R1989 says...7:39pm Tue 26 Feb 13

rozmister wrote…

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other. Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story!

[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]R.R1989[/bold] wrote:
The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here.
Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family.
If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??[/p][/quote]Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order.
There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour.
I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.[/p][/quote]I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other.
Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story!R.R1989

rozmister wrote…

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other. Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story!

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rozmister says...10:29am Wed 27 Feb 13

R.R1989 wrote…

rozmister wrote…

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other. Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story!

It doesn't matter if they're both as bad as each other as you said there is no excuse for his behaviour. If they're both as bad as each other why isn't she in the dock for taking him hostage and trying to stab him with a knife? Has she been in the past? I'm not ashamed to say I will judge him (and him alone it's nothing to do with his family he made the decision to behave like that not them) because what he did was violent, brutal and completely unnecessary regardless of what went on in the past. Biting off someone's ear is particularly nasty. It doesn't matter what the back story is the decisions he made that day was extremely wrong and his behaviour was disgusting. He CHOSE to do it all and now he'll have to live with being judged (and a prison sentence) as well as the impact on his family. Simple as.

[quote][p][bold]R.R1989[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]R.R1989[/bold] wrote:
The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here.
Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family.
If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??[/p][/quote]Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order.
There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour.
I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.[/p][/quote]I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other.
Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story![/p][/quote]It doesn't matter if they're both as bad as each other as you said there is no excuse for his behaviour. If they're both as bad as each other why isn't she in the dock for taking him hostage and trying to stab him with a knife? Has she been in the past?
I'm not ashamed to say I will judge him (and him alone it's nothing to do with his family he made the decision to behave like that not them) because what he did was violent, brutal and completely unnecessary regardless of what went on in the past. Biting off someone's ear is particularly nasty. It doesn't matter what the back story is the decisions he made that day was extremely wrong and his behaviour was disgusting. He CHOSE to do it all and now he'll have to live with being judged (and a prison sentence) as well as the impact on his family. Simple as.rozmister

R.R1989 wrote…

rozmister wrote…

R.R1989 wrote…

The thing is people are so quick to judge, we only hear one side of the story here. Think of the effect this and the following comments have and will have on his family. If she had a restraining order out on him then why is she going to his flat??

Because after being a victim of domestic abuse in the past she's lost the self-esteem and confidence to say no? Something obviously went on before for her to get a restraining order. There is NO side of the story that could explain why it was acceptable to take some hostage and try and stab them. Maybe there is a side to the story that explains his motivation for doing it but when he did that he crossed over into completely unacceptable under any circumstance behaviour. I'm sure his long prison sentence and the judgement from others is really hard for his family. The person to blame for that is him though not the media for reporting on it or the people who comment here.

I didn't say it was acceptable as its clearly not, however there are two sides to every story ...as this story doesn't tell you that she has also beaten him up on several occasions and cheated on him repeatedly... This doesn't excuse his behaviour what so ever but they were both as bad as each other. Unfortunately I do know both of these people and know the full story!

It doesn't matter if they're both as bad as each other as you said there is no excuse for his behaviour. If they're both as bad as each other why isn't she in the dock for taking him hostage and trying to stab him with a knife? Has she been in the past? I'm not ashamed to say I will judge him (and him alone it's nothing to do with his family he made the decision to behave like that not them) because what he did was violent, brutal and completely unnecessary regardless of what went on in the past. Biting off someone's ear is particularly nasty. It doesn't matter what the back story is the decisions he made that day was extremely wrong and his behaviour was disgusting. He CHOSE to do it all and now he'll have to live with being judged (and a prison sentence) as well as the impact on his family. Simple as.

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