Off Topic Thread XV: Pujols and TLR are gone, time for a new dynasty to begin!

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The 2014 Cardinals are going to be hard to get excited about if Yadi leaves. I would almost make a thread about the 2014 roster, but I don't want to get sad. I understand that we've got a lot of young studs coming up, but the familiarity of faces is in question. Potentially No Wainwright, Carpenter, Molina, Beltran, Berkman, ect.

I wouldn't doubt it if we eventually moved Holliday to first. Especially if Matt Adams doesn't develop well. We'd better sign Yadi and Waino to extensions soon

Money isn't an issue with him or the Front office for 2014. Im pretty sure Freese, Craig, Jay, Holliday, and Bullpen guys are the only ones on the payroll. Waino will get paid by the cardinals if he can prove he's healthy the next two years.

Grandpa's breaths are 45 seconds apart at times. He might have a few hours of life left.

Sorry to hear that Redbird. My Grandpa died in october and it was rough. I got to talk to him before he went into a week long coma before dying. I told him i love you and that ill see him again some day. Its hard but you have to just know you'll see him again.

If the worst happens, the most important thing you can do is be there for your grandma. Mine is in a serious case of depression and she wont do anything. Its just hard when they are that age.

"I love the city. I love the fans, I love the park. But it's out of my hands," said Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch when asked about a new contract (Twitter links). "Whatever they like to do is how it is ... They let Albert [Pujols] go. It's business for the team, too. It's out of my hands." Molina can become a free agent after the season.

Molina will eventually turn into a backup defensive minded catcher like his brothers were the last 5ish years. He will always be a good guy to have around, but I wouldn't want to extend him without it being a very team friendly deal.

I have never been the biggest Molina fan. He is a fine player, and I like his defense, but I am not all warm and fuzzy about him.

Molina is of the Pudge breed though, he can remain at catcher long term. He doesn't have the offensive value of the Joe Mauer, Buster Posey where you want to move him out of there to keep his bat in the lineup.

He is a catcher, and a catcher only. And he will remain there as long as he can. But his value is his defense and play calling, his offense is just a bonus.

I personally wouldn't extend him for very long, 40 million would be the max he would get out of me, then one or two year extensions after that to keep him as a defensive backup once we find a better catcher.