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Can we get a commitment to fix the drag\drop sorting for either a SP or 5.1? We're completely unable to order anything at all logically :)...it's getting really annoying. You place the item where you want in the List and then when the save message comes up, the list I assume re-binds into a crazy different order.

We have a bug logged and hopefully we will be able to provide a solution for the next releases. For your convenience you can track the issue status in PITS on this public URL.

All the best,

Stefani Tacheva

the Telerik team

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You are saying that page order is not so important and we should wait until the summer when 5.1 will be released??

This is like buying a car and you would realize that when you put the gear in reverse you would actually drive forward.. Do you thing that the car manufacturer would then say to you that you should wait until new car comes out.

Hey there!!!!!! If Page order doesn’t work you should react in an instant and give us the fix!!!

I have updated the bug report in PITS for Pages, how you can see in this URL. We have a bug logged for Categories, we are aware of this behavior and we are currently working on fixing it. As for Lists I do not see any problem. I have recorded a video and you can observe the Lists behavior on it. Apologies for the inconvenience again.

Greetings,

Stefani Tacheva

the Telerik team

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Although you describe a problem with 'group pages' not sorting correctly, I've had issues with pages on 2nd level (send a demo video together with bug findings prior to release of v5.0.2500) which is still there.

(As said, I reported this behavior prior to launch and had a fixed deadline with regards to deliver a v5 website once the release date was confirmed. This little beauty alone costed me half a days work because I messed up adding pages in the right order and the re-ordering didn't work so had to start with a blank project again)

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Hierarchical sorting goes correct on 1st level most of the time, but alphabetic (AZ or ZA) sorting is something the system doesn't understand. (video)

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With regards to list, unfortunately i certainly disagree with you. Steve showed a nice video about drag-n-drop not working, but take a look at this (video)
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In the last video I create 10 list items. As soon as you see me saving the 3rd item the list is no longer sorted as it should be, the follow items are also randomly inserted. Steve already proved that drag-n-drop reordering didn't work so I didn't bother to show that in the video.

If you take a look at the attached screenshots, you'll first see the default backend sorting (manually) with to the left - the output of the list on the website. Those 2 also don't match up...

Changing the backend sorting to Last modified, showed the list items in the backend in the proper way, but as you can see from the left website output it totally doesn't have any effect...

After further investigation we came to the conclusion that this unacceptable behavior is related to the hierarchy of Pages, Lists and Taxonomies. Our developers team is working on the problem already. The issue has been escalated to the highest priority. The fix will be deployed with Service Pack 1. Excuse us again.

Kind regards,

Stefani Tacheva

the Telerik team

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After an in-depth analysis of the problem we determined that fixing the issue will require more development time than the initially planned one. As we want to ensure that checking in this fix will not impose any regression potential on other related functionality, the change-set will undergo extensive testing. I apologize for misleading you with the initial promise of delivering the fix for the upcoming Service Pack, we will do our best to integrate this fix for the upcoming major release (Sitefinity 5.1) and ensure that it has passed all the internal testing and verification procedures to ensure that issues like the current one do not reoccur.

Thank you in advance for your kind understanding, and please excuse us for the inconvenience this problem has caused.

Regards,
Stefani Tacheva
the Telerik team

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No apologies needed whatsoever, I think all of us agree it's better to wait till v5.1 instead of hurrying a fix for the SP and end up with a broken system (sorting may not work but the rest is functioning atm).

Perhaps when it's time for beta testing, give us a heads up which areas/parts need extra attention since we can't see on the outside what areas the fix 'might' affect...

Sorry to nag about this, but my client doesn't understand that something so fundamental isn't working in a $1999 system.

Of course they won't pay for these hours, but would appreciate any help, since they can't really do something about it them self.
Pretty frustrating stuff when you have to deliver a website in a day and have other things to do :)

Anyway. I'll check if I can come up with some manual ordering through the API, unless maybe some dev from SF would consider to create a widget for us to solve this issue temporarily. Would seem a reasonable thing to ask, right?

Anything new on this? It's quite annoying not being able to sort the pages and page groups how the should. I now have my pages sorted like they should in the front end, but the back end still shows 'random' sorting. Even worse, the sorting within the different used languages is inconsequently. Just not workable for clients. As said before, people may expect more from a 2000 dollar system.

The problem has been fixed in our Sitefinity 5.2 SP1 version. For your convenience you can review our release notes.

Regards,
Stefani Tacheva
the Telerik team

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