2009 going to be a summer of riots in the UK?

Normally I wouldn’t be that bothered by the protests in the UK as they are normally minority groups such as Anti Capitalist, Anti-fox hunting, Anti this or that.. but they are simply minority groups that don’t have the numbers to make any real difference or for the Government to even look in their direction. Easily controlled by the Police even in full scale rioting situations due to being able to “ lock in “ people to certain areas which are tightly controlled by police numbers creating a perimeter.

But what is going to make 2009 different?? Will the current economic downturn has resulted in people losing jobs, houses and literally everything they have worked for the in the last few years so what have they got to lose? The difference to this over normal protesting is the minority keeps the numbers down because we “don’t all” agree with they’re views. We don’t have time to go to protests even if we wanted to due to work commitments and of course we wouldn’t want a criminal record. But what would you do if you lost your job.. house.. wife left you.. and its all to do with the economy. Yet the government and they’re friends in the financial sector still sit in power and even rub salt into the wounds with giving themselves pay rises and bonuses aswell as keeping they’re jobs yet they have been the most incompetent managers of finance and government in UK history. I know I would want to go to the protests although I have a lot of commitments outside the country so still tied with a bond.. “ I need my passport “. But I do believe the numbers will swell this year for protesting simply because there are more people available due to high unemployment and redundancies now and those to come over 2009. Aswell as the fact immigration has created a major issue as most of Eastern Europe poured into the UK for work uncontrolled allowing for pressure on housing to push rents through the roof and persuading landlords to take on more properties that was until the bubble burst.. But hey as Tony Blair would say “ We are championing these countries “ how I would put it is another way.. We have allowed people into the UK to get educated get money.. and get out.. because the thing that this blind government don’t realise or don’t care about.. is you can live in Bulgaria, Poland or any of the other mass immigrant populations home countries for around what was an average weekly salary in the UK would be £300 (per week) but it lasts per month in most of these eastern countries. The result being a boom that has now taken place in Poland and no doubt in the other countries as they start to spend the money they made in the UK. Aswell as new industries appearing especially in small scale manufacturing from the knowledge they picked up in the UK. Which has damaged the UK economy long-term although the last recession seen many of the furniture manufactures for example head East out of the UK already. But the problem is none of them ever come back and topping it off we are even offering the money and training to foreign nationals who are going to setup in they’re home countries at a lot lower rates.. no red tape.. no health and safety.. no minimum salary. What did we get out of the E.U. that ever benefitted the UK?

Getting back on topic the British Police are terrible at handling crowds in the UK they are generally heavy handed and can actually turn a quiet peaceful protest into a full blown riot. A prime example of this was the Rangers fans in Manchester which was made out to be the fans out of control. Truth was the reason it got out of control was the Police began putting riot gear on prepping for crowd control this turned the peaceful end of match to a full scale riot and attack on the centre of Manchester why? Because the fans knew there would be trouble with the Police why else would they be clothing up with body armour helmets and shields? I had relatives at the football match and up until that moment there was no trouble. Although this wasn’t a protest it was an example of poor crowd control. There is a method used by the Dutch Police where they will have plain clothed aswell as normal clothed Police mixing with the crowds to pull out potential trouble makers before it starts as causing public disorder is an easy charge to pull someone for. So getting rid of those who are drunk, known trouble makers or people getting loud before the trouble starts can remove the problem before it starts. Aswell as a bit of control by the Police.. beating someone with a batten does not put people off.. it makes the people around them want to get involved.. Could this rioting have been prevented?

Simply yes.. Did the Police lie about the real cause of the event on television ? Yes.. making it out that it was unprovoked.

Latest example of using force over good management and crowd dispersal happened in London 3rd Jan 2009 over the current Gaza conflict. As you can see horses and full riot gear are used. Aswell as a common tactic of “fencing” people in which has the natural result of making people panic and feel intimidated. One thing the Police have been lucky with so far is the “public” they are Policing aren’t confrontational. But what happens if your expecting a beating ? What if your expecting to be hit with a batten or know you will be arrested.. currently the Police rely on heavy numbers over a crowd that is easy to control due to small numbers. But what if 30,000+ people turned to the streets of London in protest? It would have to use military force which is already on the cards aswell as MI5 is already preparing to pull potential trouble makers. But I would ask you this what ever happened to freedom of speech? Its ok for the government to lie to the people and steal from us to pay financial institutions but your not allowed to speak out?

The problem with London and other major cities its chance of riots lies in the hands of the police. . at the end of the day it is they’re job to control crowds but a new approach will be needed if the heavy numbers expected this year in protests will happen otherwise we are looking at similar to what happened at the Brixton riots. Of 1981 which were the result of Police using operation “SWAMP” which basically hounded the black population in the area to the point they had enough of it. I agree with stop checks on known criminals but to stop and search people for being “black” is something that shouldn’t be employed anywhere on this planet. Using MI5 t
o monitor people because they have strong feelings on certain beliefs doesn’t make them a threat to the community or a cause to disrupt peaceful protests if that was the case surely Tony Blair would be sitting along side these people after forcing us into Iraq and Afghanistan amongst other things. The difference with the activists though is they believe in they’re thoughts its not just personal gain.

The protests will happen and I do think the numbers could be huge in some of the events as its an ideal time to push your views.. If you take for example the Environmental issues mix that with the oil companies and it leads you back to Anti-war protesting and Anti-Capitalists which could all be on the same protests. Difference is people who like I stated before would normally be at work or not wanting trouble are out of work and although still not looking for trouble they want they’re voice heard.

One thing that I don’t think is going to materialise is “Racism” unless it comes to Anti-EU and immigration. Before it used to be simply Whites and various ethnic groups but there is a growing under current who are Anti EU and Anti Asylum seeker and it isn’t coming from the white population it is coming mainly from British citizens with parents from other nations such as Pakistan this could push a major threat for real rioting because if the white are in protest with the 2nd – 3rd Generation British from other origins the numbers could be huge and also they have no problem with rioting. I worked in the area in the last few years where the rioting took place the whole area is dead and a ghost town where it happened not sure the reasons why but maybe someone can tell me where all the people went and why all the houses are left boarded over.

The other issue is there is a higher chance due to the current situation of the UK groups such as Combat 18 which is increasing its membership will start to make an appearance especially at anti-immigration protests. Groups such as Combat 18 have close links with football and can likely raise “trouble makers” to turn the protests into riots. If you look at British football and the “hooligan” one thing they are always happy to have is a good fight. Most of this has been hidden out the press for years to keep a “good” image for British football yet fighting happens every single weekend. Although I don’t understand why people literally just meet up to attack each other I can see this being a major problem if they united for protesting as the numbers would be large and happy to get stuck in with a fight with the Police.

So I do I think there will be rioting this year? I would ask you do you think there wont be.. because I personally am sick of the EU and sick of the present government they have made a mockery of the British people and the country. They are the only ones who can be blamed for the issues that the UK currently face aswell as the fact they have kept rich while people lose houses and jobs. The old school boy network only works so far and the majority are close to turning the tide. Its a pity when a country that is supposed to be led by democracy abuses it to the point we are no better than a third world dictatorship. An article was released lately regarding MPs (Members of Parliament) who are increasingly using Facebook where they spout what they are upto and all the usual self-publicity that politicians have. But they never listen or reply to people asking questions. This is the face of British Politics.. A world where they want your vote but don’t want to serve the people.

Now you may judge me as a racist, nationalist or several other things.. but I’m for common sense and equality.

I believe the people of the UK have the right to be heard by a government,

I believe we have a right to say no to anything agreed in Europe that doesn’t help the UK

I believe we should have the right to stop unwanted immigration on a scheme similar to Australia where we pick who we want due to them being beneficial to the United Kingdom

I believe that Asylum seekers etc. Who have crossed “many” safe countries should be returned to the first safe country of origin and not allowed to stay in the UK.

I believe British doesn’t mean white.. British means someone who holds a British passport and is a British subject regardless of race and colour and beliefs.

I believe that Railways, Power plants, Oil, Fuel companies “should” be owned by the British people via the government to allow stable pricing to make us competitive abroad.

I believe the “terrorist threat” wasn’t as major as it was made out to be but has led to new laws and wars taking place that shouldn’t have happened. When the IRA were bombing in the UK did we start a ground war in Ireland ?

I’m not into conspiracy theories although I do believe something odd is happening with the U.S. and the U.K. and I’m not sure if it was the fact that Tony Blair was a puppet and gopher for Bush and just copying “his boss” or something else that has yet to materialise.

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4 comments for “2009 going to be a summer of riots in the UK?”

Michael Green

March 25, 2009 at 10:38 am

Hi,

You right some great articles, but I can’t agree with this one. The setting up a business is one I was really grateful for.
Some really valid points, but the British are the European race that takes it all on the chin. We are not the French or Greeks you go out in mass protests.
The sun campaign about tax on fuel ( highest in Europr)is my example. They started it by asking us all to stay away from Petrol stations on Monday. Then the truck drivers blocked the refineries & they the sun turned against them calling them ” terrorists”.
The 2p freeze Brown promised to hold off on to the next budget is going through next week & 70% off what we pay for goes to HMRC. That is why even though the pricel of Oil is down from $140 to $40 petrol prices are still 90p a litre.

I’m British, but have moved to the Isle of Man as I was disgusted with my quality of live in London.
Rip off Britain, 3 hour commutes & stealth taxes mean you are not living just working to keep a roof over your head.

Many E European immigrants are leaving as the good old days are over.Like the US cheap credit meant we did not save & just re-mortgaged & lived beyond are means. Look at all the IMF reports & the UK is the one they all think is the biggest trouble.
I’ve no problem with immigration as met my Filipino wife here, but controlled like Australia who operate like a company & let in who they need not the dregs of the world.

Another major problem we have is the social security system which is no longer a safety net, but a way off life for millions. The reason we need immigrants is because British people would not get out off bed for £7 ph, but rather sign on.

We could go on for hours, but bottom line 1 million naturalised British citizens are leaving a year & I think you have made the right call. The Philippines is far from perfect, with governments who constantly let them down.
They have a beautiful country & a great attitude & hopefully I am just a few years behind.

Michael
P.S I’m not some fat cat rich banker like Fred Godwin just in case you think we are all tax dodgers out here.

You right some great articles, but I can’t agree with this one. The setting up a business is one I was really grateful for.
Some really valid points, but the British are the European race that takes it all on the chin. We are not the French or Greeks you go out in mass protests.
The sun campaign about tax on fuel ( highest in Europr)is my example. They started it by asking us all to stay away from Petrol stations on Monday. Then the truck drivers blocked the refineries & they the sun turned against them calling them ” terrorists”.
The 2p freeze Brown promised to hold off on to the next budget is going through next week & 70% off what we pay for goes to HMRC. That is why even though the pricel of Oil is down from $140 to $40 petrol prices are still 90p a litre.

I’m British, but have moved to the Isle of Man as I was disgusted with my quality of live in London.
Rip off Britain, 3 hour commutes & stealth taxes mean you are not living just working to keep a roof over your head.

Many E European immigrants are leaving as the good old days are over.Like the US cheap credit meant we did not save & just re-mortgaged & lived beyond are means. Look at all the IMF reports & the UK is the one they all think is the biggest trouble.
I’ve no problem with immigration as met my Filipino wife here, but controlled like Australia who operate like a company & let in who they need not the dregs of the world.

Another major problem we have is the social security system which is no longer a safety net, but a way off life for millions. The reason we need immigrants is because British people would not get out off bed for £7 ph, but rather sign on.

We could go on for hours, but bottom line 1 million naturalised British citizens are leaving a year & I think you have made the right call. The Philippines is far from perfect, with governments who constantly let them down.
They have a beautiful country & a great attitude & hopefully I am just a few years behind.

Michael
P.S I’m not some fat cat rich banker like Fred Godwin just in case you think we are all tax dodgers out here.

Hi Michael,
not sure of the level of protests that will happen or if they would reach rioting as although a lot of it is compared to the “Poll Tax Riots” that was mainly people who didnt work in the first place. Not the average person who needs to pay the bills each week. It may happen due to stirred tension im not sure.. I dont guarantee it but its something I will be watching for this year as I may be working in London at the time (not to get involved but to avoid). I like you are sick of the abuse by the political groups in the UK using and abusing the people to benefit themselves. Your right the Philippines has its faults but to be honest if you compared side by side there isnt a lot in it except its a lot cheaper in the Philippines. The constant bombardment of taxes in the UK has crippled and virtually destroyed the small business market. If someone wants to do something in a real protest I would simply withdraw your savings.. its worthless in the bank anyway at present interest rates.. so just emptying the banks and sitting on your money is a silent way of protesting.. or even better move it to offshore enterprises..

Hi Michael,
not sure of the level of protests that will happen or if they would reach rioting as although a lot of it is compared to the “Poll Tax Riots” that was mainly people who didnt work in the first place. Not the average person who needs to pay the bills each week. It may happen due to stirred tension im not sure.. I dont guarantee it but its something I will be watching for this year as I may be working in London at the time (not to get involved but to avoid). I like you are sick of the abuse by the political groups in the UK using and abusing the people to benefit themselves. Your right the Philippines has its faults but to be honest if you compared side by side there isnt a lot in it except its a lot cheaper in the Philippines. The constant bombardment of taxes in the UK has crippled and virtually destroyed the small business market. If someone wants to do something in a real protest I would simply withdraw your savings.. its worthless in the bank anyway at present interest rates.. so just emptying the banks and sitting on your money is a silent way of protesting.. or even better move it to offshore enterprises..