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ummm, just in case you guys forgot...

we keep invading countries (killing tens of thousands of people and spending $$$billions of dollars) because their leaders do not believe in their right to freedom, and then we debate the 'legality' of gay's 'right' to marriage.

die, fucker.

america is the biggest, most hypocritical crock of shit on earth right now. atleast when aristed kills thousands of people, he doesnt make excuses or try to say he's doing it so they can be free.

america should change it's 'slogan' from "HOME OF THE BRAVE" to
"AMERICA: WE ADD INSULT TO INJURY"

sorry, just wanted to point that out.
go back to whatever freedom you were enjoying.

Funny.
Well Governmental power has been losing out to corporate power for some time now. This is the capitalistic way. Since democracy was a function of the government it has gone by the wayside. Hakim Bey has been talking about this for years and look here it is. We even have a movie now called the corporation to point this out to whoever can hear and is willing to listen.
Freedom and justice and equality are just good buzzwords for marketing imperialistic power.
Yeah we are destroying everything from our lands, to our bodies, to our hearts and minds and even our spirits. Truly a travesty. How long can this last? Every empire collapses under it's own weight eventually... but can we afford to wait in this "quickening" this speedup of the process where we have caused more changes in the last 100 years than in all of human history? There is not much time left.
The eschatologists seem to agree that 2012 is the year of the apocalypse....

Originally posted by villain The eschatologists seem to agree that 2012 is the year of the apocalypse....

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Were the genoiuses behind Y2K as well? :lol:

I don't really think America will collapse in the next ten years, however, I don't deny the possibility. There's a lot of shit going wrong in America (in the management department I think). I hate the presidential system, I doubt any nominee truly cares about the general prosperity of this country...just their pockets, or just running opposite of Georgie becuase of the shit that he caused.

This system is full of flaws, holes, and idiots and I doubt anything will ever change that.

Originally posted by destroya do you think kerry is going to do a better job?

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unequivecally, yes.
right now there is such a divide in america, and such weight placed on this upcoming election, and the effect it will have on the whole world, that if kerry got into office and was anything less than what he said he would be, he'll get torn apart.
if he wins, its because he is everything that bush isnt, and because that is what the people want leading him. he doesnt have the luxury of being a right wing democrat. if he gets elected, it's because people want change.
granted, i dont know shit about the guy, or about edwards. they might both suck. they might secretly be members of the klan and cross dressers. but what they arent, is sons of billionairs, with family ties to suspected terrorists, and their ass's sitting in the pocket book of special interest groups. the klan is broke and cross dressers are fun. assuming he was both things, you can assume he would work on keeping manufacturing jobs in the states for his (less than pefect act scoring) klan friends, and throw some wicked ass parties with dj's and house music.

Originally posted by seeking unequivecally, yes.
right now there is such a divide in america, and such weight placed on this upcoming election, and the effect it will have on the whole world, that if kerry got into office and was anything less than what he said he would be, he'll get torn apart.
if he wins, its because he is everything that bush isnt, and because that is what the people want leading him. he doesnt have the luxury of being a right wing democrat. if he gets elected, it's because people want change.
granted, i dont know shit about the guy, or about edwards. they might both suck. they might secretly be members of the klan and cross dressers. but what they arent, is sons of billionairs, with family ties to suspected terrorists, and their ass's sitting in the pocket book of special interest groups. the klan is broke and cross dressers are fun. assuming he was both things, you can assume he would work on keeping manufacturing jobs in the states for his (less than pefect act scoring) klan friends, and throw some wicked ass parties with dj's and house music.

both of which would be preferable to bush.

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Yeah Kerry as far as I've seen seems decent. Just that he supported war in Iraq which makes me skeptical... Then again the only person who didn't support war with iraq was dean. Both Kerry and Edwards are mildmannered, maybe even timid. It's a wonder if the Bush gang gets leaning on him how much will actually change. That is, IF he gets into office.