Thought it was pretty clear. Okay, I'll drop the completely, and just say that it's subjective. And what I mean by that is, that rational people can disagree on whether a 50 yr old bullying incident that occurred before someone finished puberty is worse than snorting cocaine in your early 20s while in college.

I wasn't saying either should necessarily be judged for their actions, I was saying that Romney's actions were worse (even if they are forgiveable).

I'd never want to associate myself with anyone who holds a moral compass that says drug use is worse than physically assaulting someone. Smoking weed and snorting coke during your adolescent years isn't a reflection of your values in the slightest. It shows that you're one out of millions who decides to use a mind-altering substance.

Thought it was pretty clear. Okay, I'll drop the completely, and just say that it's subjective. And what I mean by that is, that rational people can disagree on whether a 50 yr old bullying incident that occurred before someone finished puberty is worse than snorting cocaine in your early 20s while in college.

That is not subjective in the slightest. Snorting cocaine is a consumptive choice that harms no one but the individual who does it and is simply a health risk. Ethically it is hardly different that choosing to consume unhealthy food. Compare that to emotionally and physically abusing someone that contributes to years of trauma. You'd have to be vacuous follower of the worst kind of "social conservatism" (read: neanderthal logic) to believe that Romney's mistakes were worse than Obama's.

Thought it was pretty clear. Okay, I'll drop the completely, and just say that it's subjective. And what I mean by that is, that rational people can disagree on whether a 50 yr old bullying incident that occurred before someone finished puberty is worse than snorting cocaine in your early 20s while in college.

That is not subjective in the slightest. Snorting cocaine is a consumptive choice that harms no one but the individual who does it and is simply a health risk. Ethically it is hardly different that choosing to consume unhealthy food. Compare that to emotionally and physically abusing someone that contributes to years of trauma. You'd have to be vacuous follower of the worst kind of "social conservatism" (read: neanderthal logic) to believe that Romney's mistakes were worse than Obama's.

Again, this is subjective. And quit ASSuming stuff. I never said which one was worse. I simply said that Obama's drug use is fair game if Romney's high school actions are. Also, not sure if you're implying I'm a neanderthal social conservative for bringing this up, but you can simply check my social score on the political compass under my user name to see that isn't the case. Again, Take your partisan blinders off and read what people say before hitting 'post'.

Did I say anything about you? No. I'm saying that in no universe is this a subjective desicion, you'd have to possess a completely skewed moral compass that is based on some strange Christian/cult (read: Mormonism) dogma for Romney's sins to be viewed as less harmful. Morality isn't 100% subjective, friend. We don't live in a relativist world; there are ethical certainties.

I've never been too pleased with Obama's cocaine use. It's a hell of a drug. But he was young and at least he was bold enough to admit to using it even before he ran for President. Compare that to Romney who is too cowardly and calculated to own up to any of the bullying allegations. To me, that makes what he did 10 times worse.

As for pot- who the hell cares in this day and age?? I don't smoke it, but I've experimented and most of my friends use it. I don't think this will be an issue for anyone under the age of 50.

On a similar note: Can anyone explain to me how this joke repeatedly told by Romney -"I was in government for four years, but I didn't inhale""- makes any sense at all??

Given that one is smoking pot, just what is in any way exacerbating about going about the business of ingesting TCH efficiently? I don't get that one at all. Thus to me this story is a great big fat zero.

The in government but didn't inhale means that Mittens is claiming that he did not acquire a government bureaucratic mentality, or think once in, it was better and more efficient, and more efficacious than he thought. It was nothing about well, inhaling pot, but rather about inhaling government.

Given that one is smoking pot, just what is in any way exacerbating about going about the business of ingesting TCH efficiently? I don't get that one at all. Thus to me this story is a great big fat zero.

The in government but didn't inhale means that Mittens is claiming that he did not acquire a government bureaucratic mentality, or think once in, it was better and more efficient, and more efficacious than he thought. It was nothing about well, inhaling pot, but rather about inhaling government.

In general, not in bawlexus' case, but in general, it's just plain stupid to judge a candidate based on what they did in high school. Even with the damn bullying incident, in high school, the mentality is "Hey, there's that queer, and everyone's doing stuff to him, better get in on this!" You see your friends doing it, having a good time, why the heck shouldn't you do this? You do sh**t every day that's regrettable. The mob mentality is the default and you're working overtime, mentally and morally, if you break it. Either that, or you're too lazy to be part of the mob. But either way, judging a candidate on crap they do in high school is a stupid and hollow tactic.

I'd never want to associate myself with anyone who holds a moral compass that says drug use is worse than physically assaulting someone. Smoking weed and snorting coke during your adolescent years isn't a reflection of your values in the slightest. It shows that you're one out of millions who decides to use a mind-altering substance.

You've never had to help someone come off an addiction have you? Dealing this crap should be the same as in singapore - a death sentence. And if you believe that Obama's stopped using, I have another bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

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I'd never want to associate myself with anyone who holds a moral compass that says drug use is worse than physically assaulting someone. Smoking weed and snorting coke during your adolescent years isn't a reflection of your values in the slightest. It shows that you're one out of millions who decides to use a mind-altering substance.

Romney apologizing for an incident he claims to not remember is very telling and mostly not in a good way.

It is good that he realizes that what happened was wrong, but his claim to not remember the incident shows that either he cowardly refused to come forward about this on his own until it was brought up by others, or.he was such a sick bastard as a kid that he could assault someone and not find it a memorable incident. Frankly, the latter possibility is more worrying to me. Whether or not he thought the victim was gay is immaterial to me, as no matter what he thought the kid's sexual orientation was, it just as sickening what multiple witnesses allege Romney did.

Obama being a pothead is not an issue in and of itself - what is an issue is him being a hypocrite and having his Gestapo go and bash in the heads of fellow potheads by the million (even flip-flopping on medical marijuana). This is, of course, mass bullying, and many orders of magnitude greater than a single incident. Romney holds the same position but the crucial difference is that at least (AFAIK) he isn't a hypocrite about it.