Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, a candidate for the 2012 Republican Presidential nomination, has a received a lot of criticism over a comment she made stating that the Founding Fathers worked ‘tirelessly to end slavery’.

This morning on ‘Good Morning America’, George Stephanopoulos asked her if she stands by those comments.

She stated that John Quincy Adams worked tirelessly to end slavery. When George corrected her and informed her that John Quincy Adams was not a Founding Father she insisted that he was.

Now it appears that her supporters have altered Wikipedia to make it appear that John Quincy Adams was a Founding Father, even though he was only a child when his father John Adams, America’s second President, signed the Declaration of Independence.

Michelle Bachmann also misspoke yesterday, saying that John Wayne was born in Waterloo, Iowa, when in reality John Wayne Gaycee the serial killer was born in Waterloo, Iowa. The Wikipedia page for John Wayne was also changed to make his birthplace Waterloo, Iowa, even thought John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa.

Hey, I just checked the John Quincy Adams site in Wikipedia and it does not show this now. Good catch to whoever saw this. Bachman, Palin etc are just distractions designed to take us away from the ISSUES. Why are we even wasting our time with all this crap. “Only a fool argues with a fool”

Sorry to intrude, but I believe it might benefit us to know that IP addresses cannot be relied upon as a true indication of origin.
They can easily be spoofed and/or proxied, and a WHOIS lookup will only reveal the registrar of a block (i.e. the ISP who leases them). Even static IP’s are registered under the ISP, and not the individual leaser.
To take this even further, MAC (physical hardware) addresses can also be spoofed, and DNS tables poisoned.
Therefore, a simple IP lookup will fail to reveal any significant information regarding a specific individual. They cannot be relied upon as an actual source location.
ISP’s lease IP’s either individually via DHCP or in static blocks, and they will only reveal names/addresses when presented with a court-ordered subpoena.
A list of IP addresses of potential offenders shall reveal little to nothing about the individuals involved – even in the best-case scenario, trace-routing might reveal a router’s location. Yet without the ISP logs, the identity of the current owner of the IP in question shall be unattainable.
Summarily, all we know is that certain persons attempted rewrite Wikipedia – the evidence suggests Bachmann supporters, yet it is also feasible that it could’ve been done by those who simply want to make her look worse – in the same manner people attempted to rewrite the “Revere’s ride” pages purportedly in support of Sarah Palin. Yet without ISP logs to track down IP traffic to specific individuals, and without the assurance that those IP’s weren’t proxied, there can be no absolute assurance either way.
Thanks for listening.

That’s weak of Bachmann, but it hardly disqualifies her for POTUS. This Wikipedia trick sounds like some leftist, sexist haters out to discredit Bachmann, there was and is PDS, and now there is a growing sickness of Bachmann Derangement Syndrome.

That’s weak of Bachmann, but it hardly disqualifies her for POTUS. This Wikipedia trick sounds like some leftist, sexist haters out to discredit Bachmann, there was and is PDS, and now there is a growing sickness of Bachmann Derangement Syndrome.

I’m so sick of this lame “57 states” jab. In context, he was referring to the number of nominating contests during the primary. There were 57 total, since more than just states but also territories and DC, etc. voted in the primaries. He by no means lost count of how many states we have. It was a simple slip of the tongue.

Every time the morans of the Party of “Personal Responsibility” pull some stupid stunt, they always whinge like a bunch of 3 year olds that “mean ol’ lib-tards set us up” and every time it turns out that the morans shot themselves in the foot… again.

To those trying to put Obama in the same room as Bachmann because he said “57 states”; it’s pretty commonly known now that because he was tired, he misspoke and “57” instead of “47”.

The “47” refers to all the continental states he had campaigned in, minus one he still had to visit, and excluding Alaska and Hawaii, which are not continental.

I should also point out that some Tea Baggers immediately said he was referring to 57 Islamic States of the OIC (which is incorrect, as the OIC encompasses 60 states), in another pisspoor attempt to imply that Obama is a closet Muslim.

Maybe Bachmann making these mistakes wouldn’t be such a big deal if she didn’t do it almost EVERY TIME SHE SPOKE, or admitted to making a mistake, instead of carrying on like the genius only she and her Tea Bagger followers believe her to be.

I’m rooting for her to get the GOP nomination. That way, Obama gets 4 more years, and maybe we can get all the moderate (read: intelligent) Republicans to form their own party, a party that isn’t afraid of running the country how it’s supposed to be run; through compromise.

It was his father John Adams, who was a founding father, that fought to end slavery in Massachusetts. John Q. Adams study under his father and accompanied him on several trips to the constitutional conventions and his many diplomatic trips.
Not an unreasonable mistake and much less agregious than claiming that there are 57 states. Funny, lame stream media kind of let that one drop.

“57 States” can be written off as a misspoken moment, a mental slip-up repeated endlessly years later; has he ever repeated it, or made similar gaffes? However this comes together with John Wayne Gacy as “The Duke,” the battles of Concord and Lexington being in New Hampshire, and a dozen or more other total failures just in the last year on points of fundamental ideological importance to the “conservative” movement (in quotes because you people are not actual conservatives–Buckley and Goldwater hated your kind and with good reason). It exposes her as nothing but an opportunist theocrat with a radical agenda that adores state power as long as it’s doing things she likes. If that’s what you want instead of someone who knows things or whose staff can be bothered to know them, and who actually believes in responsible government and the value of knowledge, fine, but be honest and own it.

Obama didn’t claim there were 57 states. I’m sorry the lamestream media has left you with that impression. In fact, if you watch the video, you will see a very tired Obama say he had been to “50…. [pause] 7″ states; incorrectly combining the actual number of states with the number of states he had visited at that point (47). Obama did not go on to claim that there were, in actuality, 57 states. He said, yup, I made a mistake. You will NEVER find Bachmann or Palin admitting their errors.

Obama said he’d visited “57 states” with “1 left to go” and that he wouldn’t be going to Hawaii and Alaska. Clearly, he meant 47 states. Later on that day, he confirmed this, mentioning that he hoped that he had said 100,000 not 100,000,000 in a speech he’d just given, since he’d already messed up earlier that day by stating he’d been to 57 states instead of 47 states.

Similarly, Bachmann where she said that she wanted the spirit of the “John Wayne of Waterloo, Iowa.” That’s the birthplace of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. She acknowledged that she misspoke. Aside from a couple chuckles, its died down as a story.

She clearly did the same thing with the Adamses—she meant the father, and mixed up names again. The issue here is that unlike Obama on 57 states and unlike her previous flub on the John Waynes, SHE REFUSES TO ADMIT THIS. She’s lying and saying that someone born in 1767 was a founding father. He didn’t fight in the Revolutionary War (not surprising since he was 9 years old when it started), he didn’t go to the Constitutional convention, but she refuses to admit these basic facts (possibly b/c it would mean she messed up people twice in quick succession) That’s why its a story.

Your take illustrates a difference I see with progressives and rightwingers. When a Republican misspeaks, and says “yeah, I misspoke, my mistake” I, as a progressive, accept that. You don’t see anyone running around and insisting that Bachmann didn’t misspeak about the John Waynes, that she does indeed want the spirit of a serial killer, or that mixing up the birthplaces disqualifies her from the Presidency. Seriously, she made a mistake, she corrected it, who cares? And I’d say the same thing if she just corrected her Adamses mistake. In the same vein, I’ve never heard anyone insist that George W. Bush really was a “West Texas girl”, or that he believed he was a girl, or whatever.

But righties believe that Obama’s verbal flub of misstating a number is something a “whoops, my bad” doesn’t fix, and either represents his true viewpoint on the number of states or an admission of some sort of Islamic conspiracy or whatever. It is truly bizarre. Why is it that you believe that factual misstatements by GOPers are automatically excusable even without apology or retraction, while factual misstatements by Democrats permanently blot them as unfit even if they apologize?

So Obama’s misstatement has more than 18x the number of results as Bachmann’s two misstatements combined. While the Bachmann story is new and those numbers will probably rise a bit, the media clearly hit Obama’s flub way harder than they’re hitting Bachmann’s flub. So if there’s a bias, its an IOKIYAR one (its OK if you’re a Republican, the old Vitter can stay but Spitzer must go one).

not an unreasonable mistake? yeah, if she had only made it once, and admitted her mistake when confronted. and saying 57 states instead of 57 primaries is *agregious*?? (it’s egregious, and puh-lease).

Bachmann’s John Wayne gaffe was a minor error, and will be forgotten soon if she can avoid destroying her credibility in the meantime. This Quincy Adams thing won’t go away though, because she can’t admit her error – much like Palin and her version of Paul Revere’s ride. Admit the mistake and America will forgive. Dig in your heels when you’re mistaken, and America won’t trust your judgment. It’s simple, really.

Guys… you understand Obama *didn’t actually believe* there were 57 states, right? that he meant to say he’d visited 47 states (out of 50), and said 57 instead of 47 due to exhaustion? This is different. Michelle Bachmann *actually believes* JQ Adams qualifies as a founding father… worse, she *actually believes*, or refuses to admit she was wrong, about how [all] the founding fathers tried to end slavery despite it being written into the Constitution and despite Jefferson and Washington having slaves. “57 states” is like GW Bush’s “Put food on your families.” none of us talk about that incessantly.

Nor, as another commenter pointed out, are any of us trying to rewrite wikipedia to make it appear there are actually 57 states, which is the main point here.

Are you equating the President’s misspeaking when he SHOULD have said. 56 States (and territories) to adding a Founding Father that WASNT and then continuing to stubbornly refuse to admit she was wrong, by repeating her mistake OVER AND OVER again?

So one person making misspeaking and then correcting themselves makes it okay for another person to misspeak, insist it’s true, and indirectly order legions of her zombie minions to set about trying to rewrite history so she doesn’t look like a fuckwit?

Call me crazy, but I didn’t see any Obama supporters scribbling new lines on the map when he mentioned the “57 states.”

But the willfully blind will always follow the woefully stupid, right?

Obama’s reference to 57 states was accurate because he had been to many of those states multiple times, which made his statement congruent with the facts. Of course, the right-wingtards claimed it had something to do with teh ‘Muslim’.

Dude Lady, are you Stupid, Ignorant, Crazy, or all three?
Obama laughed at his mistake and said he just was tired. She doubled down (and her ignaroid cohorts tried to change history on Adams and Wayne to fit her incompetent recollection of American history. Corpse, corps, korps , chorps, khorps corp’s; they all sound the same. Give it up. English is a difficult language, perhaps the most. Have you ever miss-spelled a word?
If your answer is no. . . You are a fricking liar

you failed to mention that obama also forgot what year this is in the guestbook while in britain. English is not that difficult, unless of course your spelling potato. Just be happy that she’s not a socialist like obama. If obamas followers were doing anything other than waiting for his next handout program, they may very well have tried to change a wickopedia page.

English is not that difficult, unless you’re spelling “you’re”. Or trying to figure out capitalization. Or possessives. Or proper nouns.
I have a degree in English, but I’d never pretend it’s easy; you’re not very good at Englishing, though.

All hail to Astroturf TeaBparty Queen (ATQ), Michele Bachmann. Isn’t she the one that who rails against the Federal Government while every year she benefits from farm subsidies and adopts kids to work them on same farm. Oh yeah she is also a self-proclaimed historian on the US Founding Fathers and US history. The sad truth she will lie to get her way, what honor is there in that? But if you manipulate our US history and double down when you are found out, well don’t go crying to Fake News when you lose. Kind of like the Former half-term Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (Most recent quitter of her Bus Tour to restore America). We remember what happen when after “W” manipulate Florida (w/ the help of brother Jebb) to win the presidency and his failure to win any of the two wars he started that devastated our treasury and ruined our economy for the next 50 years. If the GOP thinks that Michele Bachmann is the answer, good luck with that. After her “John Wayne” mishap and Tom Petty, calling her a thief, well you know, same old Bachmann, you have a winner GOP.

Michelle Bachmann fans have attempted to rewrite the Wikipedia pages for actor John Wayne and President John Quincy Adams… thereby leaving crayon and Sharpie scrawlings on thousands of computers nationwide.