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Posted:17th Feb 2005bth cascade? back of the hands? if so well done, now give mills mess a try, works best with hackey sacks to start off with, i've been trying it with normal balls for about 2 months now and its still hard just to get one rotation.

right last night

mikes mess, cracked it, but i ain't certain, i'm gonna have to get ucof to check it before i'm happy that i can actually do it.

423 with the fours behind the back, backwards and forwards.

under the arm cascade, like colemans over the shoulder cascade except with contorted under arm catches, i even managed to catch one of the balls from a multiplex round there as well:-)

behind the back catches from the box, just started working for some reason, not quite as good as i've seen it done but its a start.

5 ball cascade, for abut half an hour i was getting past 15 catches, now it does not work anymore.

Clubs, managed a few doubles, but thats pretty much it, i think its about time i ran out and got the compendium of club juggling.

Coleman, can you explain what you mean by "with juggled 2's" for the fastest trick in the world, i've been working on that for a while now, just juggling a 423(W) and then clawing all the throws, but it hasn't seemed to build up that much speed (could it just be that i've got a good few years before it starts going really fast). Reverse chops has started getting pretty fast though:-)

Posted:17th Feb 2005back of the hands cascade is not much of a problem (although my left hand cradle still feels sketchy).can't do mills on the backs of my hands but i don't think i can be bothered to learn it either - not really my thing.

but by 'bth' i actually meant 'behind the head'

juggled 2's:

the easiest way to juggle a 2 is to simply 'pop' it - literally just open your hand quickly so that the ball raises about an inch off of you palm and drops back.with a claw, this basically turns into you opening your hand and reclawing the ball.

learn 423 with this extra 'throw' so that you hear all of your catches, evenly spaced.

to get 423 to go really fast:do 423 clawed and try to keep the balls each in their own column.reduce the 4 to as low as you can manage.juggle the 2.

cole. x

"i see you at 'dis cafe.i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.they do porridge."- tim westwood

Posted:17th Feb 2005i learnt a lovely new triplex from the nice man in oddballs. Back of the hand cascade tho my left hand is a bit dodgy and back of the hand tennis, left hand even more dodgy with that one

I havent practiced in the last two weeks coz i've been skiing and dogsledding and making snowmen in Norway, but im reunited with my juggling balls and very happy indeed lots more practice to come!

Aim high and you'll know your limits, aim low and you'll never know how high you could have climbed.

fork catch one ball with other held. throw and catch the fork catch (to the same hand) so that the ball ontop of the fingers is caught and the one originaly held is now on the fork. Throw the held ball across as the 3 to be caught on what was the 2's hands' fingers. Repeat till drop.

Cole i've got a 441 variation to show you...there's a 0 in there somewhere...i'll show u later and u can tell me what the numbers are

Posted:21st Feb 2005Nice Tom, that one will be a bane for years to come. New for me, been getting a few good runs of 4b mills with shower, 4b 534 mills (not sure on the numbers there), 4b shower with leak, consistently flashing 7b on good days, oh and can do Martin and gateaux multiplex

Posted:22nd Feb 2005You could also change direction of showers by throwing a stack multiplex straight up and then reversing the direction. Is especially good in 4 balls...

Incidentally the shower with a leak...you can do shower in a fence, instead of the 6 being thrown by the high throw hand, u can throw 6's from both hands. Not sure what numbers are but you do 6's with both hands and do a two ball shower from the 4b shower. I'm sure i've shown someone in this thread??