Asteroid Boy and I went to the show in Waco, it was a lot of fun. Did the crowd seem dead on TV? The Heart O Texas Coliseum is a small place, and on the side with the cameras and the side facing the Titan Tron (and obviously the side with the Titan Tron) there was only floor seating. It almost felt like an indy show, the crowd was so small and compact. Just wondering if this came across on TV, or if you got the impression the arena was full.

Cena was over like crazy, and HBK was to a lesser extent. The crowd didn't seem to know what to do when Candice got stripped. Maybe that was the conservative crowd, or maybe they were just sort of in shock to see her stripped.

Originally posted by jivesoulbroAsteroid Boy and I went to the show in Waco, it was a lot of fun. Did the crowd seem dead on TV? The Heart O Texas Coliseum is a small place, and on the side with the cameras and the side facing the Titan Tron (and obviously the side with the Titan Tron) there was only floor seating. It almost felt like an indy show, the crowd was so small and compact. Just wondering if this came across on TV, or if you got the impression the arena was full.

I didn't see anything to suggest a small crowd. The audience seemed very loud and into it. I noticed the Trish chants and the reaction to Victoria's Widowmaker in the very first aired match.

I'll admit, the "worked censor" thing occured to me during the show, too. I mean, they did it for Cena's stupid "Ruck Fules" hat, it'd promote traffic to WWE.com, and there seemed to be a lot of early cases where enough was slipping through the whiteouts to make it clear what the announcers were talking about.

Didn't someone, somwhere, at some time say that the reason A.M. RAW is RAW-only is because USA won't let WWE promote a Viacom show? And yet, we get a Smackdown match next week *on RAW*.

CRZ (slashwrestling.com) counted 7 instances of on-air hype for the move *to* TNN/Spike on the last RAW on USA. Wasn't there a big to-do about WWE not being able to promote the move prior to that because of a lawsuit from USA blocking the move in the first place?

I don't know what my point is, exactly - just that this business of legally promoting other networks gives me a headache.

Originally posted by Meltzer via Cubs FanOutside the U.S., McMahon's remarks aired as is, because there was no conflict with an existing network.

Not true - the TSN broadcast had all mentions of USA blanked out too (up until the time that whoever was doing it started to let them all through).

TSN just piggybacks Spike's broadcast and adds their own censoring as they go. So it'll never be "less censored" then what we're given because it's already blanked out when TSN gets it. They can only add to the blocking as they see fit, but like someone else mentioned with Sky, since TSN is Canadian, they couldn't care less if Spike is promoting USA.

Did anyone actually watch the replay to see if they edited it out, or am I going to have to stay up until 5am tonight to see?

Wasn't there a big to-do about WWE not being able to promote the move prior to that because of a lawsuit from USA blocking the move in the first place?

Yes. In that case, though, they didn't get the okay from the judge to make the move until the Friday before the final RAW on USA (where as this move's been in the works for months) and didn't want to hype a move they might not be able to make.

Originally posted by WWE.com“We went overboard,” admitted Vince McMahon. “But we did it in a very entertaining fashion. What we did was not mean spirited in any way. What Spike did, however, was mean spirited. At no time leading up to Monday night did Spike TV ever call us and say ‘Okay, this is what we won’t allow.’ We had no warning whatsoever. So for us it was business as usual.”

Or so McMahon thought. While in the ring Monday night, he had no way of knowing his comments were being deleted.

“Once we learned of the censoring, we decided to have a little fun of our own,” said Dunn. “Understanding the censoring technology the way we do, we knew that it was impossible for a technician to cut out a USA reference and listen for another one at the same time. Knowing that, we decided to load up on the USA comments. We knew that they weren’t all going to make their way through, but we also knew a good amount would. At that point, we were having fun with it. And I think it showed.”

Interesting that Vince says he didnt know Spike would have a problem with the USA references.

I dont think USA considered WWE moving to TNN in 2000 as WWE becoming competition. If I recall correctly, didnt USA pull a "We're too high-brow for wrestling anyway" after WWE left? In any event, SpikeTV certainly considers WWE's move back to USA as WWE becoming competition with their UFC (and TNA, sorta) shows, so I look at all of this "censoring" as Spike's way of sticking it to WWE on their way out the door, as well as a good old fashioned "Maybe if people dont know where they're moving, they'll still tune in to what we're gonna broadcast in this spot next week" move.

Originally posted by WWE.COMWhat followed were several back-and-forth conversations among RAW commentators Jim Ross, Jerry “The King” Lawler and Jonathon Coachman where the three mentioned USA Network on numerous occasions (watch).

Watching that clip after the fact, knowing that it was kind of ad-libed, hearing The Coach add in "Chris Masters will be on USA next week" made me laugh. It was like that scene in "Super Troopers" where they had a contest to see who could say "meow" the most times while talking to someone they pulled over.

Foster: All right meow, where were we?Larry Johnson: Excuse me, are you saying meow?Foster: Am I saying meow?Larry Johnson: I thought...Foster: Don't think boy. Meow, do you know how fast you were going?[man laughs]Foster: Meow. What is so damn funny?Larry Johnson: I could have sworn you said meow.Foster: Do I look like a cat to you, boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? Do you see me eating mice? You stop laughing right meow!Larry Johnson: [the man stops and swallows hard] Yes sir.Foster: Meow, I'm gonna have to give you a ticket on this one. No buts meow. It's the law.[rips off the ticket and hands it to the man]Foster: Not so funny meow, is it?Foster: [Foster gets up to leave, but Mac shakes his hands at him, indicating only nine meows] Meow!

Originally posted by Meltzer via Cubs FanOutside the U.S., McMahon's remarks aired as is, because there was no conflict with an existing network.

Not true - the TSN broadcast had all mentions of USA blanked out too (up until the time that whoever was doing it started to let them all through).

TSN just piggybacks Spike's broadcast and adds their own censoring as they go. So it'll never be "less censored" then what we're given because it's already blanked out when TSN gets it. They can only add to the blocking as they see fit, but like someone else mentioned with Sky, since TSN is Canadian, they couldn't care less if Spike is promoting USA.

Did anyone actually watch the replay to see if they edited it out, or am I going to have to stay up until 5am tonight to see?