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Not to put down your efforts, but what makes any of us think that we can do something like producing a better pollen substitute than what those who make a living doing so can make? Just curious.

Sqkcrk,

Well, we have thousands of hives to try out our products on, I call it the thousand hive lab. How better to REALLY find out if something works, that's on a thousand hive test run.

You here alot about this or that in commercial use. How many have a break down on premixed patties. Not very many,Oh they will tell you what the bag has in it, but we need to know what the patty has in it percent +/-. Are you feeding bags or patties?

Still alot of fog out there.

What I do is mix up ten batches of different subs ( that I am trying out premixed patty) and send to the lab for a profile. Then also put them out in the bees as well.

Mixing instructions:Patty Mix one part powder by weight + 1.5 parts fructose corn syrup by weight. Let sit overnight and make into patty
Liquid: To make 1 gallon, use 1/2 lb. of diet + 1 gallon of fructose corn syrup. Mix well until the powder goes into solution.
Manufactured by Castle Dome
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You will notice that there is no brake down of the ration in per centiles
Well, I tried and that the best that I can do for now.
BTW: Our bees like both the pre made patties by Mann Lake & Dadant.
The ball is in your court.
Regards,
Ernie
Lucas Apiaries.

Well, we have thousands of hives to try out our products on, I call it the thousand hive lab. How better to REALLY find out if something works, that's on a thousand hive test run.

You here alot about this or that in commercial use. How many have a break down on premixed patties. Not very many,Oh they will tell you what the bag has in it, but we need to know what the patty has in it percent +/-. Are you feeding bags or patties?

Still alot of fog out there.

What I do is mix up ten batches of different subs ( that I am trying out premixed patty) and send to the lab for a profile. Then also put them out in the bees as well.

Thanks for the explaination Keith. I'm glad that you can do the experimentation.

sigh

I started reading this with high hopes, I could almost hear the bees buzzing, smell the nectar curing, maybe I'd learn something about beet sugar, but the thread ended up just making my head hurt. Some are always right, others are always wrong.