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I made the plunge a month or so ago and ordered 20 deep HSC fully drawn frames. HSC shipped promptly and all is well. Of course, I have not installed the new frames yet, but will with a new nuc in April. More then.

we too have been working with max this winter and are picking up the frames in CA in about two weeks and will get put on right after we pick them up. looks like good stuff to me. and Max is a great guy to work with. Nick

Those frames are VERY rugged. In my first order of 1oo the boxes they came in seem to be quite soft, by the time they got here the boxes were torn and ragged but the frames were fine.

My second order (&gt;5oo) came by truck. After being rammed by a fork lift and gouging a few of the frames, the frames were still usable. I told Max about it and he insisted on sending replacement frames even though I told him it was not necessary. That's customer relations.

Don't be surprised if you get a follow up call from Max, he's that kind of guy.