I read no stopping as meaning no stopping in the middle of the trail i.e. stop to the side. If we couldn't stop I would have died of a heart attack long ago.

in that case, any sign or trail rule should say "get off the trail if you stop", not "no stopping" - although you've got me thinking, should put a "no stopping/standing" sign on the tree at the start of the SMBC climb :-)

3. Always Yield Trail (be aware of surroundings, let other trail riders know you're coming by calling "track" or "bike", KEEP LEFT, DON'T STOP ON THE MIDDLE OF TRAILS, etc.. anticipate other trail users around corners / blind spots, prepare to stop if necessary) not sure how to word it but "if you're stopping to session something, make sure an incoming rider can see you 2 seconds before they would hit you" and generally stay 1-2 metres off the line of the trail if weighing something up/observing/watching/filming/talking (guilty of doing a lot of the last one :-)

hmmmmrule 3 seems a bit wordy....3. Always Yield Trail (be aware of surroundings, let other trail riders know you're coming by calling "track" or "bike", KEEP LEFT, DON'T STOP ON THE MIDDLE OF TRAILS, etc.. anticipate other trail users around corners / blind spots, prepare to stop if necessary)not sure how to word it but "if you're stopping to session something, make sure an incoming rider can see you 2 seconds before they would hit you" and generally stay 1-2 metres off the line of the trail if weighing something up/observing/watching/filming/talking (guilty of doing a lot of the last one :-)

Some good comments and feedback happening here loving it! I guess the initial trail etiquette list is a bit wordy but it was to encourage everyone to have a think about what should be listed on the final sign. It certainly needs refinement and generally people won't read a sign that is too wordy, some clever design / symbols may help out too??

In terms of 'no stopping on middle of trail' it is a literal meaning. God knows I pull over to the left to catch my breath and have a swig of water regularly (getting old doh!), or have a chat to other riders, or for sessioning out sections of trails (e.g. Follow Me); but I'm talking about riders, say for example the 3 that I saw last Sunday morning, standing in the middle of the track having a chat and didn't give much room for other riders to pass (in both directions). Sometimes you pull over to your left and stop, or slow right down to let faster riders pass, but that is yielding yeah?

Signage definitely required - on Sunday morning I encountered 2 muppets stopped having a chat at the end of the boardwalk on Hug - you could just get through, but not with any speed or decent line choice.

Just to clarify, I did mean 'No stopping in the middle of the trail' when I posted that suggestion. Seems like a common sense thing that doesn't even need a sign, but as Matt puts it, some 'Muppets' need the bleeding obvious pointed out to them. And it seems like this is a very common problem.

Maybe we could create some 'Stopping Zones' at some of the fire trail/single track junctions. This may give the less trail educated riders the idea that stopping on the trails is not a good idea. A little bit of signage at these 'Stopping Zones' may encourage riders to read them.

I in particular like the part where ridings heading down yield to those "struggling" to ride up.Might minimise my experience with the f###wit on Tuesday night that siad "watch the tree" when I had to yield on narrow track and clipped tree. No Shit Sherlock!!!

?Ride Open Trails: Respect trail and road closures ? ask a land manager for clarification if you are uncertain about the status of a trail. Do not trespass on private land. Obtain permits or other authorization as required. Be aware that bicycles are not permitted in areas protected as state or federal Wilderness. ?Leave No Trace: Be sensitive to the dirt beneath you. Wet and muddy trails are more vulnerable to damage than dry ones. When the trail is soft, consider other riding options. This also means staying on existing trails and not creating new ones. Don't cut switchbacks. Be sure to pack out at least as much as you pack in. ?Control Your Bicycle: Inattention for even a moment could put yourself and others at risk. Obey all bicycle speed regulations and recommendations, and ride within your limits.

?Yield Appropriately: Do your utmost to let your fellow trail users know you're coming ? a friendly greeting or bell ring are good methods. Try to anticipate other trail users as you ride around corners. Bicyclists should yield to other non-motorized trail users, unless the trail is clearly signed for bike-only travel. Bicyclists traveling downhill should yield to ones headed uphill, unless the trail is clearly signed for one-way or downhill-only traffic. In general, strive to make each pass a safe and courteous one. ?Never Scare Animals: Animals are easily startled by an unannounced approach, a sudden movement or a loud noise. Give animals enough room and time to adjust to you. When passing horses, use special care and follow directions from the horseback riders (ask if uncertain). Running cattle and disturbing wildlife are serious offenses. ?Plan Ahead: Know your equipment, your ability and the area in which you are riding and prepare accordingly. Strive to be self-sufficient: keep your equipment in good repair and carry necessary supplies for changes in weather or other conditions. Always wear a helmet and appropriate safety gear.

I often yield to riders coming uphill, but just as often wonder if it shouldn't be the other way around. Going downhill you are usually giving it some stick and it totally buggers up your run, versus crawling uphill anyway where it does not impact as much.