The Witness in pictures on PS4

The independent scene was also present at the announcement of the PS4. Jonathan Blow, creator of Braid, came to show The Witness. This is a puzzle game that will be played in open-world on an island, and it should be available for download on the next Sony console. Here are some pictures.

The most interesting thing shown in the conference, I want to see more.

What's more important is that Sony is accommodating for indie games that aren't platform-exclusive unlike Microsoft, so this sends a clear message to indie devs who have been burned by XBLA and hopped on the PC-Steam train.

You guys need to stop being so narrow about the puzzles. Literally. There's more to it than the line stuff, and how that stuff works is NOT the same every time. I'm not saying it'll be amazingly deep, but remember, Braid didn't have many mechanics, but it managed to flip those mechanics around and use them in a lot of different ways. I wouldn't expect anything else from this.

Posted by digi_matrixWhat's more important is that Sony is accommodating for indie games that aren't platform-exclusive unlike Microsoft, so this sends a clear message to indie devs who have been burned by XBLA and hopped on the PC-Steam train.

what? is there a single "indie game" that sony shows on conference that isn't internal, bought and never let to be published elsewhere?

All XBLA Indie games are just a publishing slot in on XBLA, they are on Steam a couple of months later: Trials: Evo, Trenched, ITSP, Mark of the Ninja. Say the same for any, or almost any PS3 DD game?

No.

And you make it sound dumb, there was only 1 "indie looking" game on the conference, this and no other. it wasn't even a Indie segment.

Posted by pythxviiBraid didn't have many mechanics, but it managed to flip those mechanics around and use them in a lot of different ways. I wouldn't expect anything else from this.

Braid had an ingenious concept of platforming & rewind the time. only then he said I have a "Game Mechanic" where a whole game can be built around it.
The levels, art, ethereal look and auto-biography story came later.

Posted by nostradamuswhat? is there a single "indie game" that sony shows on conference that isn't internal, bought and never let to be published elsewhere?

All XBLA Indie games are just a publishing slot in on XBLA, they are on Steam a couple of months later: Trials: Evo, Trenched, ITSP, Mark of the Ninja. Say the same for any, or almost any PS3 DD game?

No.

And you make it sound dumb, there was only 1 "indie looking" game on the conference, this and no other. it wasn't even a Indie segment.

Before, no indie games on PS3 got onto other platforms except for Closure on Steam. This time, they're doing the timed exclusive from console to PC like Microsoft did on XBLA. So they're on par now.

Many indie developers hate XBLA now, after being burned out on the lack of games advertising, place on the marketplace, and most of them migrating their next games to PC-only/Steam. Sony has typically been nicer to indie devs in advertising and financial support. So when Blow talks good of the PS4, a dude who's been burned by Microsoft, and is THE spokesperson for the indie game movement, lots of indie devs will be paying attention to the PS4.

i.e. Microsoft needs to step up their game on supporting indie devs all the way to advertising on marketplace, and not just for development costs.

Posted by digi_matrixSony has typically been nicer to indie devs in advertising and financial support. So when Blow talks good of the PS4, a dude who's been burned by Microsoft, and is THE spokesperson for the indie game movement, lots of indie devs will be paying attention to the PS4.

John "pretentious" Blows isn't the spokerman of jackshit to any indie dev. if anything, Mojangh is and i dislike him even more now that he runs a power hungry business.

Talk to Behemoth, talk to any indie dev that sold a fuckton on XBLA and they will be in high heavens. Indie dev = self centric mouthpiece most of the time, it means jack shit.

You are just grasping at straws and making general assumptions based on single cases.

Posted by pythxviiYou guys need to stop being so narrow about the puzzles. Literally. There's more to it than the line stuff, and how that stuff works is NOT the same every time. I'm not saying it'll be amazingly deep, but remember, Braid didn't have many mechanics, but it managed to flip those mechanics around and use them in a lot of different ways. I wouldn't expect anything else from this.

QFT!

I fell asleep about 10 minutes into the presentation (mostly because it was late here..) so I missed this. Really looking forward it.

There's an article on it the escapist where it looks more like he was bought by sony imo. he doesn't say it outright, but i imagine there is no way he'd limit the game to only PS4 if he didn't have a reason to do so.

Posted by MegidoThere's an article on it the escapist where it looks more like he was bought by sony imo. he doesn't say it outright, but i imagine there is no way he'd limit the game to only PS4 if he didn't have a reason to do so.

He had an interview with eurogamer saying sony never paid him anything, and i don't see why someone as vocal as him would lie. They where interested, Bridges where burned with MS, so he agree'd to go PS4. Said he signed the contract but it was more a formality then anything, he was going with sony anyway because he liked the sony guys he was working with. The contract isn't even for full exclusivity apparently, just next gen consoles. He plans to release an IOS version alongside the PS4 version.

He can say whatever he wants, i just have a hard time he'd say no to being on one of the major platforms for no other reason than being more well acquainted with some people at Sony. Either he's a complete fucking moron, or he's holding something back. I mean, his name is big enough that he should be able to get that game on any platform without much hassle. It doesn't make any sense to me.

And yeah, he's vocal but i don't think he's dumb enough to say anything that'd tarnish his reputation as indie-god. Being bought by Sony certainly sounds like something that might put a dent in such a reputation. Not that i'm saying that's what happened.

I can't play this. I might enjoy it the wrong way and hurt Jonathan Blow's feelings.

Posted by KORNdogIf sony had paid him, i doubt he'd be able to release PC and ios version alongside it. But who knows...frankly, who cares...lol

Ya never know. Microsoft published Alan Wake: American Nightmare and also allowed Remedy to immediately self publish it on Steam. It depends on the details of their arrangement. We'll never know. Not that it matters anyway.

KORNdog
that's my understanding of it anyway based on the little i've read about it. seems like it'll happen though. (2 Hours ago)

KORNdog
less risks (not like ubi are particualrly great in that regard anyway) and just barrier for them to do their job. (2 Hours ago)

KORNdog
@Moonwalker: it would be a conglomerate and that can be creatively very limiting if they don't fully understand the industry they've just dipped their toe in by buying a major publisher. (2 Hours ago)

Sdarts
Also, for the first time in BioWare's history, they are finally using full facial capture to record the actor's performance. Plus its the first time the Mass Effect team is using the Frostbite engine. (2 Hours ago)

nostradamus
@Moonwalker: well, i'll on a leg and say its a "lie". It seems on par with DA:I, and if they think thats fine for a reveal trailer, then it doesn't bode well for the final product. (2 Hours ago)

nostradamus
almost finishing jak and daxter. So much fun. Whay are a pos knack 2 being made, and not a new Jak? (2 Hours ago)