I have an opertunity to trade my DA 7800 wheels for either a set of brand new 2005 silver american classic 350's ( weight 1300g) or a set of 420's ( weight 1440g)

Would you guys trade the DA wheels, or should I keep them?

Or if I did trade which other set would you take?

I use to have both 350's and 420's, never got to ride the 350's before I sold them, and the 420's I thought were alright, but sold them because I could get lateral flex. I should note my old 420's were 16/20 spoke count thiough, the set i would get is 18/24. The 350's are 28/32.

Which wheel is lateraly stiffer? How do they compare on lateral stiffness to Ksyriums in those spoke counts?

Thanks for the help.

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Last edited by Superlite on Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

SL, if these are not race wheels, I would keep the DA's. To me they feel stouter even though they may be a little heavier. Definitely a stable descender. The hubs are nearly bombproof and should be trouble free for a long time. If I could trade them for ksyriums I would do that, as personally I don't think there is a nicer all around comparable wheel.

My dad rides the 350s as an everyday wheel. He weights 185-190 pounds depending. In MN too, so our roads are pretty crappy. He doesn't put a lot of miles but jsut the fact he weighs so much is a testament to their strength. So far there have been no problems and I would so go for it. I don't like run of the mill wheels anyhow.

Anyone ridden the 420's with the 18/24 spoke count? I had the 16/20 bladed and I thought they were too flexy, is the 18/24 better, or just marginally?

Remember, it's DA 7800 or 420's or 350's. Which one....... Lateral stiffness is my main concern. I will probly sell the wheels after 1 or 2 seasons, so they don't need to last 10 years, though it would be nice. lol

The one I like best is the Ksyriums, I loved how stiff the wheels are laterally.

SL, do you really feel the Ksyriums are the stiffest ? I've been using Ksyriums for almost a year now (19000 km) and they are certainly not stiff IMO (I weight 71 kg). If the other wheels are more flexy, they should be flexy as hell.

On your wheel choice ...
If I were you wouldnt doubt one second, I'd go DA. I know someone who ride CX with these wheels and they are indestructable, very stiff and realiable.

SL, for what it's worth I have a (very wealthy) buddy (about 165#) who has or had the following wheels:
'03 or '04 AC 420 (sent them back 3 times for hub/bearing issues, finally gave up)
'04 AC 350 (had some problems, and said they were not stiff, sold them)
'03 Campa Electron (or whatever the top '03 model was) (still has them, says they're great)
'03 or '04 Ksyrium SL (said they were too stiff, a bit uncomfortable but solid, sold them)
'04 Reynolds Stratus (loves them, uses them the most)
'05 Cosmic Carbone (stiff, strong, but heavy)

Out of them all he prefers the Stratus and the Campa, and then the Ksyrium.
I would keep the DA or upgrade to a better wheel (maybe a Cirrus).
Either AC is no real upgrade.

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