tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post5326704143602053641..comments2017-08-17T20:05:51.254+01:00Comments on Confessions of a Cult Girl | Ahmadiyya: Mirza and a Slap in the Face of Ahmadiyya: Pigott AffairFindingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12838153918574723113noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-58516656288680540952012-11-27T02:41:14.677+00:002012-11-27T02:41:14.677+00:00Go an read the &#39;review of Religions&#39; there...Go an read the &#39;review of Religions&#39; there is a special edition on this matter and the truth has been mentioned including what happened to him after Ahmad(as) died and his consequences Piggot dying in such a disgraceful way.<br />And the real prophecy Ahmad(as) made and all of the prohecy is given not a part of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-21526845025372243732012-10-29T18:53:19.426+00:002012-10-29T18:53:19.426+00:00Mirza Ghulam what&#39;s his name died on a toilet....Mirza Ghulam what&#39;s his name died on a toilet.<br /><br />How is one a Prophet if his death is on a toilet?<br /><br />How is one a Prophet when his followers twist words?<br /><br />This Ahmadiyya sect is a load of bullshit!!! It needs wiping off the face of Earth!!! You&#39;re a bunch of jokers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-54376860753575301302012-06-14T12:12:06.148+01:002012-06-14T12:12:06.148+01:00Good comment, but please transalte me Sura Kosar. ...Good comment, but please transalte me Sura Kosar. When Kofaar-e-Makah said that Mohammad (pbuh)does not have a son and their will be no male hier for him, Qura&#39;an said? it says&quot; no doubt the enemies of Mohammad will remain with out a hier. Was it true? who had male hiers and who did not?<br /><br />Please read your history first and then attack on any other religion of the world. <br />Tell me why Juesh people did not believe on jesus christ? because the prophesies did not fullfil as the juze wanted like Muslims of our era now.Asharnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-5592488663833947482012-04-27T15:23:35.332+01:002012-04-27T15:23:35.332+01:00@Mr. Peace
You have atleast one hundred Piggot lik...@Mr. Peace<br />You have atleast one hundred Piggot like disputed issues everything is controversial. What kind of religion you have? If I do nothing in my whole life and only research on your religion I cant cover all disputed issues and you call this religion, pathetic.<br /><br />You can afford such religion because you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ but a common or normal person cant. You dont live in a real world you fool yourself, you have your own logics otherwise only common sense is enough to know what the reality is.<br /><br />I have proved many times that basically you are all ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ thats the root cause of your abnormal behavior. You think you love everyone but reality is totally opposite actually you hate everyone. The worst thing is that you dont know what you actually do and you proudly say love for all hatred for none. Baygharto you are not normal people you are all &#39;Nafsiyati Mareez&#39; this is the reality.<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-40065235840215387102012-04-27T14:56:53.948+01:002012-04-27T14:56:53.948+01:00@Mr. Peace
IT IS RIDICULOUS TO COMPARE YOUR AND AB...@Mr. Peace<br />IT IS RIDICULOUS TO COMPARE YOUR AND ABU MUSA REPLY. <br /><br />His post was logical and very organized he post like a normal and sensible person but your behavior is abnormal I can clearly see you are fooling yourself.<br /><br />I know you are satisfied that you have replied Abu Musa in a very well way but this is not the reality, the reality is totally opposite you did not reply Abu Musa like a normal person you were talking like a mentally ill person. For a normal person Piggot case is very simple but you have some psychological problems you can fool and satisfy yourself very easily you can see whatever you want because you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’. You dont reply to satisfy others you actually fool yourself this is a ‘SEAL ON YOUR HEART’<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-76574564938968733742012-04-27T10:15:15.085+01:002012-04-27T10:15:15.085+01:00Firstly – you agree that he didn’t write these let...Firstly – you agree that he didn’t write these letters, rather it was Muhammad Sadiq?<br />Then you tell me that all his sayings are in his books. Could you please explain this?<br /><br />Secondly - As for the third article (1907) – it is actually in the main text above (in the article) with a ref. from the newspaper it was taken from. Like I said – even if it wasn’t written in 1907 – it definitely was the third sent – which goes back to the original question, why does Mirza Gullam need to threaten someone three times?<br /><br />Thirdly – you didn’t show me how he repented. Someone moving to another area and carrying on his claims doesn’t show anything. There needs to be actual evidence that he repented. Like I said earlier – the fact that he still claimed to be God afterwards shoes to me that nothing changed for him.<br /><br />Finally – could you please explain this (again): “the death of Mr. Pigott within my life-time shall be another sign of my truth”Abu Musanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-3904040801040900302012-04-27T10:09:18.265+01:002012-04-27T10:09:18.265+01:00The Promised Messiah (as) could not speak English ...The Promised Messiah (as) could not speak English or write English. <br /><br />Then please explain these:<br /><br />-&quot;God is coming by His army. He is with you to kill enemy.&quot;<br />English online Tadhkhirah PDF page.101 Book page.81<br /><br />-&quot;Though all men should be angry but God is with you. He shall help you. Words of God not can exchange.&quot;<br />English online Tadhkhirah PDF page.164 Book page.144<br /><br />-&quot;We can what We will do&quot;<br />English online Tadhkhirah PDF page.99 Book page.79<br /><br />I will excuse the grammatical errors for the moment, but please tell me how he &#39;didn’t speak nor write English&#39;<br /><br />If you then say to me that they were revelation, then please explain how Allah (swt) made grammatical mistakes, or if Allah (swt) didn’t make them, then Jibrael (as) was the one who messed it up, since Mirza couldn’t have?Abu Musanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-2736808161552814472012-04-19T20:41:57.612+01:002012-04-19T20:41:57.612+01:00nice replynice replyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-59196909256902287862012-04-19T17:16:04.794+01:002012-04-19T17:16:04.794+01:00First mistake your comments &quot; Firstly – Mirza...First mistake your comments &quot; Firstly – Mirza Gullam had Muhammad Sadiq write letters for him in the English medium because Mirza’s English (as has been documented) was grammatically full of errors. Therefore, having someone write for means it doesn’t come from your books.<br /><br />The Promised Messiah (as) could not speak English or write English.<br /><br />2nd Mistake all he statement about John Pigot are written in his books.<br /><br />3rd &quot; There was definitely another article published after this time that appeared in 1907 in some newspapers&quot; PRODUCE IT!!!!!<br /><br />4TH with regards to these comments <br /><br />&quot; Pigott according to you repented in the time of Mirza Gullam. Where is this proof? A man who claims to be God and then has various letters sent to him by Mirza needs to really come out and say: “I retract my statement” otherwise, you cannot say he repented. According to his later actions (i.e. claiming to be God), we must conclude l that no repentance took place at all.<br /><br />this has been explained in all Posts above by me! just read them!!!<br /><br />5th just with an open heart<br /><br />&quot; However, it is important not to ignore the allegation and look in to what was behind it. The foundation for this allegation rests on the fact that the Promised Messiah(as) passed away in 1908, while Pigott died in 1927. The announcement that the Promised Messiah(as) sent to Pigott and Western newspapers clearly stated that if Pigott did not abstain from his claim to godship, he would be destroyed instantly, However, it is important not to ignore the allegation and look in to what was behind it. The foundation for this allegation rests on the fact that the Promised Messiah(as) passed away in 1908, while Pigott died in 1927. The announcement that the Promised Messiah(as) sent to Pigott and Western newspapers clearly stated that if Pigott did not abstain from his claim to godship, he would be destroyed instantly, and possibly during the lifetime of the Promised Messiah(as) . The actual words of the English text are as follows:<br /> <br />‘I therefore warn him through this notice that if he does not repent of this irreverent claim, he shall be soon annihilated.’<br />) . The actual words of the English text are as follows:<br /> <br />‘I therefore warn him through this notice that if he does not repent of this irreverent claim, he shall be soon annihilated.’<br /><br />as you can see again your MISTAKE! THE PROMISED MESSIAH (AS) SAID &quot; However, it is important not to ignore the clearly stated that if Pigott did not abstain from his claim to godship, he would be destroyed instantly, and possibly during the lifetime of the Promised Messiah(as) . The actual words of the English text are as follows:<br /><br />&quot; HE WOULD BE DESTROYED INSTANTLY, AND POSSIBLY DURING THE LIFETIME OF THE PROMISED MESSIAH(AS) <br /> <br />Abu Musa wrong again.<br /><br />your conclusion is indeed pitiful pleas where have I abuse or insulted!!!<br /><br />Peace ( Ahmad) if you are referring to the comment of ( New Ahmadi Convert from sunni Islam) that is not me. And i can only apologize on his behalf,<br /><br />ps I will sign as my middle name ( Ahmad) so your not confused I don&#39;t need to abuse <br /><br />peace AhmadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-22113569545159259412012-04-19T16:52:51.666+01:002012-04-19T16:52:51.666+01:00Abu Musa
your comments speak for themselves
&q...Abu Musa <br /><br />your comments speak for themselves<br /><br /> &quot; We can clearly see that Mirza’s statements have been proven incorrect by their apparent meanings. And when the Ahmadiyya go to defend it (as they have to) their defences go around 20 blocks before even coming close to making some far reached sense.<br />To any logical onlooker – the answer is clear. However, guidance is in the hands of Allah (swt) and we ask him to keep us all on the straight path.<br /><br />you missed boat again all that has been explained is logical and rational responses, you current comments show me that you actually have no argument. we have put sound comments and responses demonstrating the truth of the Promised Messiah (as).<br /><br />peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-38962219878820167512012-04-18T21:23:50.320+01:002012-04-18T21:23:50.320+01:00I do want to add one final point to this Insha&#39...I do want to add one final point to this Insha&#39;Allah.<br /><br />From what I have come across in the seera – Allah (swt) through the Qur’an and the prophet (saw) through the hadith have only really dammed a few people to the hellfire <br /><br />-One of them is Abu Lahab – and there is a short Surah in the Quran that deals with him and his wife.<br />-Another is Walid Ibn Mugera (the father of Khalid ibn Walid (ra))<br /><br />There are others, but I will just talk about these two:<br /><br />A major proof that was for the Quraish about the truth of the Qur’an was that - after that Surah was revealed about Abu Lahab – he had years to convert to Islam – but he didn’t - and he would never have been able to because Allah (swt) had established before He (swt) even created the Heavens and Earth that he was doomed to the fire. <br /><br />The other example is Walid ibn Mugeera who came to the prophet (saw) and had some dust in his hands and said to the prophet (saw) – are we to be raised up after we reach this state (i.e. after death and our bones decay) – and the prophet (saw) said to him, you will be raised and then Allah (swt) will throw you into the fire. Again, Walid never became Muslim – nor did he repent at any time, nor did he revert back to kufr. He was upon disbelief from day one and remained that way until his death. <br /><br />Now compare this to the prophecy of Mirza Gullam. There was no iffs/buts/errings in the prophet (saw)’s statements – as soon as they came out of his mouth, end of. <br />No ‘repentance’ for a short time, and then later on ghastly claims.<br /><br />I cannot see how you can say that Mirza is a prophet. Simply compare his statements with that of the prophet (saw). Not just in how he prophesised future events, but in his whole manner of hadith.<br />We can clearly see that Mirza’s statements have been proven incorrect by their apparent meanings. And when the Ahmadiyya go to defend it (as they have to) their defences go around 20 blocks before even coming close to making some far reached sense.<br />To any logical onlooker – the answer is clear. However, guidance is in the hands of Allah (swt) and we ask him to keep us all on the straight path<br /><br />Allah (swt) knows bestAbu Musanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-1779843444651037962012-04-18T21:02:39.618+01:002012-04-18T21:02:39.618+01:00Firstly – Mirza Gullam had Muhammad Sadiq write le...Firstly – Mirza Gullam had Muhammad Sadiq write letters for him in the English medium because Mirza’s English (as has been documented) was grammatically full of errors. Therefore, having someone write for means it doesn’t come from your books. <br />An added side point must also be: Why is someone who believes he gets revelation in different languages including English having others write letters for him?<br /><br />Secondly – There was a letter sent in 1902 and then there was another in 1903. This is established Mirza’s son. <br />There was definitely another article published after this time that appeared in 1907 in some newspapers – and this has to have been another letter because it is under a different article and article title. So even if the writing was slightly earlier in time (which I doubt because the other two were published at the time they were sent), we have three separate threats – all definitely at different times. <br />Again, was one not enough? And if Pigott repented after Mirza made the claim that he would die if he didn’t (through Godly revelation), then why send more then one letter – surly the first would have made him stop?<br /><br />Thirdly – Pigott according to you repented in the time of Mirza Gullam. Where is this proof? A man who claims to be God and then has various letters sent to him by Mirza needs to really come out and say: “I retract my statement” otherwise, you cannot say he repented. According to his later actions (i.e. claiming to be God), we must conclude l that no repentance took place at all.<br /> <br />Fourthly – Mirza Gullam said: “the death of Mr. Pigott within my life-time shall be another sign of my truth”<br />What happened to this sign?<br /><br />Fifthly - Mirza Gullam also said that he would never repent, nor would he believe in God – so in Ahmadiyya theology - does that actually mean that he repented during the lifetime of Mirza Gullam and then returned back to Godly claims later? But since it took many letters/threats of Mirza – spanning years, which letter made him repent – and at what time?<br /><br />Conclusion – The defensive work of the Ahmadiyya on this is all too complicated and too many bits of the puzzle do not fit. Logically they don’t piece together &amp; therefore we can only conclude that these ‘prophecies’ are indeed false, proving that Mirza Gullam was not a prophet – or even close to that. <br /><br />Finally – please try not to be insulting in your posts – your arguments/debates should transcend thatAbu Musanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-20936001322363000792012-04-18T20:38:09.605+01:002012-04-18T20:38:09.605+01:00If you still think you are not a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez...If you still think you are not a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ then read my following points and comments.<br /><br />1) Piggot made claim to be God <br />2) God warned him repent otherwise he will die soon even in the lifetime of MGA<br />4) Obviously God was aware that MGA will die in 1908 so Piggot had maximum 6 years<br />5) Therefor ‘SOON’ is not more than 6 years <br />6) Piggot repented and saved his life<br />7) After death of MGA he claimed again and he died in 1927<br />8) God was going to kill him in 6 years when he claimed first time<br />9) Nauzbillah second time God forget that he has warned Piggot he will die soon<br /><br />My point is God has warned Piggot if he does not repent he will die soon so if this was the warning of God why he died after 19 years he should die instantly. But you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ of course you can fool yourself but for a normal person this is very clear this was not the warning of my great almighty ALLAH.<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-57062239756518659852012-04-18T20:06:56.296+01:002012-04-18T20:06:56.296+01:00As for my abusing is concern I will suggest you re...As for my abusing is concern I will suggest you read first your MGA ‘GALIYAN’ <br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/1.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/2.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/3.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/4.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/5.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/6.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/7.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/8.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/9.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/10.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/11.htm<br />http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/ahmadies/Galian/P/12.htm<br /><br />When you read your prophet abusing I am sure it would be normal for you. This is another proof you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ when your prophet abuse its normal for you but when an ordinary person abuse it is not acceptable for you. Trust me you are not normal you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-29972228131572534382012-04-18T19:54:13.701+01:002012-04-18T19:54:13.701+01:00@God of Islam who sent his warning through the Pro...@God of Islam who sent his warning through the Promised Messiah (as) thus he would not dare make such a claim again during the life time of the Promised Messiah (as)<br /><br />The problem is you have a very small brain so this time I will try to teach you in your language.<br />Suppose your Qaid asks you to give chanda and you refuse him because you want give zakat first. Your Qaid tell this to your Khalifa and Khalifa warned you through your Qaid ‘REPENT’ otherwise he will expel you. You ‘REPENT’ and give chanda. After some years your Qaid dies now ask yourself will you stop giving chanda ofcourse not because you understand your Khalifa is alive and he actually warned you.<br /><br />Similarly if Piggot repentance was genuine then MGA lives or dies it does not matter the point is repentance should be only to God and God is for forever. For a normal person it is nonsense Piggot was silent because MGA was alive but you are not normal you are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ thats why this make sense to you.<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-69923720419303738872012-04-18T12:20:19.087+01:002012-04-18T12:20:19.087+01:00TD You have simply lost the plot!!!
1- The Promis...TD You have simply lost the plot!!!<br /><br />1- The Promised Messiah (as) was Allah (swt)Messiah therefore he out of deep love of a human being claiming to GOD! warned Pigot to refrain from such absurd claims. The Promised Messiah (as) was defending the Unity of Allah (swt) and he Loved Allah (swt) so Much that he prayed to Almighty Allah (swt) about Pigot and then he was informed to Warn!!! Pigot that he did not repent from his Claims he would be Punished.<br /><br />2- Indeed it was a WARNING FROM GOD! but Allah (swt) sent his warning through the Promised Messiah (as).<br /><br />3- I again suggest you read everything that has been stated! no where has the Promised Messiah (as) he had to repent to the Promised Messiah (as) he was only told Repent!!!! and obviously to repent to Allah (swt).<br /><br />4- and yes indeed he must have been afraid of Allah (swt) but the God of Islam who sent his warning through the Promised Messiah (as) thus he would not dare make such a claim again during the life time of the Promised Messiah (as) but if you see exactly what happened the moment he claimed again to be God after the demise of the Promised Messiah (as) he was totally humiliated by Allah (swt).<br /><br />5 - ?<br /><br />your last comments are are just attempt to cover up your lack of evidence and weak argument, at not point have I or another Ahmadi Muslim said that he was only afraid of the Promised Messiah (as) and not God!!! your abuse of &quot; Nafsiyati Mareez&quot; just shows you lack of intellect on the subject!!!!. We are indeed normal people it is people like you who lie about us and make stories about us. rather you abuse and lies is not the behavior of a NORMAL PERSON!!! the very accusation on us you are displaying!!!.<br /><br />lastly I don&#39;t want to enter into abusive debate. I am thankful to Cult.Girl for allowing the posts.<br /><br />peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-27188464362290444582012-04-17T23:05:55.378+01:002012-04-17T23:05:55.378+01:00Abu Musa you have made a desperate attempt to refu...Abu Musa you have made a desperate attempt to refute the evidence that has been clearly demonstrated.<br /><br />Your comment &quot; And another threat (and from what I can ascertain, his last) in 1907&quot; <br /><br />Indeed your assertion is wrong! Please show us where in the books of the Promised Messiah (as) where he again threatened Pigot in 1907, <br /><br />Also the reason Pigot was defrocked and humiliated was of his immoral behaviour of having sexual relationships with many women.<br /><br />With regards to your unintelligent remarks that this is the biggest blow to Ahmadiyyat WRONG AGAIN!!!!this proof of his truthfulness!!! <br /><br />Please try to read!!! The comments that have been made!!!! now PLEASE ABU MUSA PROVIDE THE PROOF THAT THE PROMISED MESSIAH (AS) TRAEATENED PIGOT IN 1907 FROM HIS WRTINGS!!!<br />PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-62706649598247800122012-04-17T20:14:57.999+01:002012-04-17T20:14:57.999+01:00Mr. New Ahmadi Convert from Sunni Islam, please al...Mr. New Ahmadi Convert from Sunni Islam, please also tell us your name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-36524785242323012562012-04-17T20:11:17.009+01:002012-04-17T20:11:17.009+01:00@URDU PRO HUDA HAS DONE FULL DOCUMENTARY
Documenta...@URDU PRO HUDA HAS DONE FULL DOCUMENTARY<br />Documentary is in Urdu because they know you are idiots they can only fool you but they dont fool English people.<br /><br />@CULT GIRL HAS SAID SHE WOULD EXPOSE THE JAMAAT … SHE HAS FAILED!<br />She is continuously exposing your cult she is doing her job. As far your case is concerned this is not her job to convince you. You are a ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’ this is the job of a psychiatrist.<br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-63906326838212691472012-04-17T19:59:04.501+01:002012-04-17T19:59:04.501+01:00Baghairto read my following points carefully and t...Baghairto read my following points carefully and tell me where I am wrong?<br /><br />1) Piggot made claim to be God so this was the matter between Piggot and God. <br />2) This prophecy was the warning of God not the warning of MGA<br />3) Repentance should be only to God not to MGA<br />4) Therefor Piggot repentance means he was afraid of God<br />5) God was alive in MGA lifetime and after his death<br /><br />BAYGHARTO if he really repented he should not repeat his claim after MGA death. But you say Piggot was only silent because your prophet was alive and he was afraid of your prophet in other words he was not afraid of God. You can say like that because you are all ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’. Its very simple this cant be the warning of Allah but you dont want to open your eyes you like to create complications it is like a game for you which you like to play because you are not normal people you are all ‘Nafsiyati Mareez’. <br /><br />TDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-24642375915140464782012-04-17T12:34:21.087+01:002012-04-17T12:34:21.087+01:00Secondly:
The Promised Messiah (as) clearly annou...Secondly:<br /><br />The Promised Messiah (as) clearly announced that John Pigot would never fully repent meaning he would not make any more claims during his life time but a time will come when he would again make the same claim!! and this happened showing the truthfulness of the Promised Messiah (as)<br /><br />&quot; However in 1909, one year after the demise of the Promised Messiah(as), Pigott repeated his claim to godship. At the time he was living with a number of women whom he termed his ‘soul brides’. One of these was Ruth Preece, whom Pigott had given the title ‘Chief soul bride’. She bore him three children. When Pigott went to the local registrar of Somerset to record the names of these illegitimate children, the news got out, because he was also legally married to another woman. As Pigottt was a Church of England Reverend, the scandal spread like wildfire. The Church removed him from his post. The defiant Pigott declared, “I do not care for this decision, I am God!!” thus fulfilling the prophecy recorded in Tadhkirah.<br /> <br />The Divine revelation granted to the Promised Messiah(as) was that Pigott would not repent and that his end would not be a good one. Indeed, it was from this point on, after he had once again reiterated his claim to godship, that his descent into ignominy began. Newspapers in the Somerset Archive Centre dating from this time are full of accounts of his adulterous relationships and illegitimate children.<br /> <br />Gradually, Pigott’s mental health started to deteriorate. His favourite soul bride, Ruth Preece, dissociated herself from him and left the colony. Donald McCormick refers to her departure:<br /> <br />‘It was a slow process, brought about principally through a disintegration of his character.[7]<br /><br />peace (hope you will post)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-48885574900858645802012-04-17T12:33:52.445+01:002012-04-17T12:33:52.445+01:00Let us make things clear. Firstly the challenge an...Let us make things clear. Firstly the challenge and Prophecy made by the Promised Messiah(as) was 1- If John Pigot did not stop his claim to being God, he would be destroyed by God and possibly during the life time of the Promised Messiah (as). So from the outset The Promised Messiah(as) was warning Pigot if you do not Repent!!! of your Shirk claim to be God, God will punish you and the punishment may happen in the life time of the Promised Messiah (as). This should be clear the Promised Messiah (as)did not say that Pigot would! be punished in his life time!<br /><br />&quot; The announcement that the Promised Messiah(as) sent to Pigott and Western newspapers clearly stated that if Pigott did not abstain from his claim to godship, he would be destroyed instantly, and possibly during the lifetime of the Promised Messiah(as) . The actual words of the English text are as follows:<br /> <br />‘I therefore warn him through this notice that if he does not repent of this irreverent claim, he shall be soon annihilated.’<br /><br />So the Punishment was based upon &#39; Repentance&#39; and history demonstrates that he did repent!. <br /><br />&quot;When Pigott registered the births of his children, he described his occupation as ‘Priest in Holy Orders’. This is the same designation he used in 1889 on his marriage certificate before he had made any claims to godship, and again in 1905 after his child was born. This conclusively indicates that he never made any further claims to godship during the lifetime of the Promised Messiah(as). This was the purpose of issuing Pigott a warning, and we can see that this warning and other factors, such as the media uproar and the reaction of orthodox Christians, were instrumental in stopping Pigott from repeating his claim.<br /><br />therefore during the life time of The Promised Messiah (as) he never again claimed to be God!!! showing that The Promised Messiah (as) defended the tawhid of Almighty Allah (swt)and this was his only concern noting else and he was victories in this! otherwise if John Pigot was not afraid of the warning that the Promised Messiah (as) gave! John Pigot would have continued his claim in public but he not! and there was no sign of him making such a claim during the life time of the Promised Messiah (as) showing his repentance.<br /><br />If by asking the question about the meaning of &quot; REPENT&quot; and you expect that John Pigot should have vocally announced his remorse, repentance or shown some physical sign of his repentance. Well there are those who are brave and announce their regret and they are those who just silently fade away and keep quite and remove themselves from the public and this is what John Pigot had done.<br /><br />peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-8928934695175942322012-04-17T12:21:07.732+01:002012-04-17T12:21:07.732+01:00According to you – Pigott stopped claiming holines...According to you – Pigott stopped claiming holiness after Mirza sent the first threat.<br />-Threat 1 to Pigott was 1902 <br />-His second threat was in 1903<br />-And another threat (and from what I can ascertain, his last) in 1907<br /><br />Mirza Gullam died in 1908<br /><br /><br />Firstly, if Pigott stopped claiming divinity, why the different &amp; multiple threats? Surly one was enough at the beginning and Pigott would have stopped.<br /><br />Secondly, the Church defrocked him in 1909 – i.e. the year after Mirza died – thus an indication that he was still claiming silly things during and after Mirza died.<br /><br />Finally – for your claim to hold some weight, and surly you must agree with this – Pigott has to come out and say – ‘well actually folks, I am not God – sorry, I was just telling some porkies’ or ‘I saw my doom in a dream and the Mesiah warned me that God would destroy me if I dont repent’. Neither of these are recorded – or can we say, nothing is recorded in that fashion.<br />Being quiet on the matter doesn’t really tell us anything.<br /><br />I do understand why this thread is v.quiet, this seems to be as far as I can see, the biggest blow to the Ahmadiyya in terms of a failed prophecy by Mirza Gullam.<br />I hope the spreading of this thread and story of Pigott will help many of them realise that their religion is not Islam and to turn back to Allah (swt) and His messenger Muhammad (saw).Abu Musanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-73338841001924853522012-04-17T09:16:49.260+01:002012-04-17T09:16:49.260+01:00I think you are being thick as usual. The prophecy...I think you are being thick as usual. The prophecy clearly says:<br /><br />I, therefore, warn him through this notice that if he does not repent of this irreverent claim, he shall be soon annihilated, even in my life-time…<br /><br />It is CLEARLY CONDITIONAL which is plain for even the most mentally challenged non Ahmadi Muslims out there. It also states &quot;even im my lifetime&quot; which clearly means in his lifetime but not restricted to. My God you people are thick.<br /><br />Further on it says &quot;The Death of Mr Piggot within my life time SHALL&quot; this is talking about an event in the future and is CLEARLY conditional i.e if it occurs it SHALL it does not say WILL.<br /><br />I need the name of all you thick as two short planks english teachers. I am going to have words... you are a disgrace to the language<br /><br />PeaceNew Ahmadi Convert from Sunni Islamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9104222902095833668.post-88026723914277301532012-04-16T23:47:36.831+01:002012-04-16T23:47:36.831+01:00still waiting for you to show from the writings of...still waiting for you to show from the writings of the Promised Messiah(as)<br /><br />&quot; J.H. Smyth Pigott, Pastor of… London, has recently announced himself as God… on the 7th and 14th of September 1902… God has, therefore, commanded me to warn him… I, therefore, warn him through this notice that if he does not repent of this irreverent claim, he shall be soon annihilated, even in my life-time… God has borne witness to my truth with heavenly signs shown in thousands… The death of Mr. Pigott within my life-time shall be another sign of my truth. If I die before Mr. Pigott, I am not the true Messiah nor am I from God… God shall bring the false Messiah to destruction within the life-time of the true one… 24th November 1902.” (A Warning To A Pretender To Divinity)<br />http://www.qarchives.com/A_Warning_to_A_Pretender_to_DivinityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com