“Carly Fiorina was referencing a sequence in our video that shows footage of a born-alive infant from a late term abortion actually moving in the specimen pan.”

Cuomo reminded him that it was a stillborn fetus, not an aborted one:

“But if you’re talking about organ harvesting and abortions and how terrible they are why would you use a stillborn fetus, which is not a function of an abortion?”

Deleiden protested:

“It’s the same baby, whether it’s born dead or alive, whether the organs are harvested or not.”

Cuomo showed unbelievable patience as he explained why the video was so deceptive:

“It’s also completely irrelevant to the point you’re trying to make, which is, ‘Look at what they do to these babies.’” It was born stillborn. It was not aborted. Doesn’t that matter to you if you’re talking about abortion?”

Of course according to Deleiden, it doesn’t matter one bit.“It’s the same kind of fetus,” he said.Cuomo hammered the last shot home, saying:

“My point is context. You’re saying, ‘what they do in abortions,’ that wasn’t an abortion. That’s my point.”

I wonder if there's a word for the current trend in politics of denying things that are presented so clearly right in front of your face?

1st October 2015, 01:38 PM

BDBoop

Quote:

Originally Posted by the watchman

I wonder if there's a word for the current trend in politics of denying things that are presented so clearly right in front of your face?

Obtuse?

1st October 2015, 01:54 PM

Dr Sampson Simpson

Again, all things that are obvious to those not a complete hack who doesn't give a shit about reality and facts

1st October 2015, 02:09 PM

TennesseeRain

How many times on this very site have we had posters post the most outrageous lies (particularly about Obama) and, when those lies are completely debunked, have them come back and say, "but it could be true and therefore it's not a lie."

This is just one more example of complete and utter dishonesty. But remember, people, those videos were not manipulated. Well, they may not have been manipulated, but a whole bunch of right wing zealots sure were.

1st October 2015, 02:18 PM

Macduff

Daleiden admitted no such thing.

Quote:

CUOMO: But they have – they have funding things that are a little curious also. Here's what really created a flash point I want you to speak to. Carly Fiorina, very passionately in the debate – very cogently brings across this image of an aborted baby on the table, the heart beating, the legs moving – look at that video and tell me what you think. Let me ask you about that image: is that an aborted fetus that's on that – in that image?
DALEIDEN: You know, actually, in the studio, I don't have a visual of what you're showing me. So I'm not sure exactly what you're showing me. But-
CUOMO: You know what I'm talking about, David. It's a miscarriage. You know the mother was interviewed. You know you didn't ask her for permission for it, but that's beside the point-
DALEIDEN: That's not what Carly Fiorina was – that's not what Carly Fiorina was referencing. Carly Fiorina was referencing the sequence in our video that shows footage of a – of a born-alive infant from a late-term abortion actually moving in a specimen pan, while Holly O'Donnell – who used to work at Stem Express – is talking about the harvesting of a brain of an infant of the exact same gestation point-
CUOMO: Oh, so you don't think – you think it's a different image – you think it's a different image than the one that was pointed out by the mother-
DALEIDEN: If you're showing – yeah-
CUOMO: Okay-
DALEIDEN: If you're showing the image of the Walter Fretz right now, that's not the image.

Look at that. The people who tried to argue the videos were "deceptively edited" (without ever being able to explain how) are using deceptive edits of a transcript to try to make a false claim.
And unless Chris Cuomo airs every interview on his show uncut and unedited, then he can shut the fuck up about editing.

1st October 2015, 02:21 PM

cable2

I too wondered if we will hear any apologies for the harsh treatment by our extreme right wingers to all those who did not except their PP agenda

1st October 2015, 02:23 PM

BDBoop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macduff

Daleiden admitted no such thing.

Look at that. The people who tried to argue the videos were "deceptively edited" (without ever being able to explain how) are using deceptive edits of a transcript to try to make a false claim.
And unless Chris Cuomo airs every interview on his show uncut and unedited, then he can shut the fuck up about editing.

Did you watch the video?

1st October 2015, 02:24 PM

RosieS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macduff

Daleiden admitted no such thing.

Look at that. The people who tried to argue the videos were "deceptively edited" (without ever being able to explain how) are using deceptive edits of a transcript to try to make a false claim.
And unless Chris Cuomo airs every interview on his show uncut and unedited, then he can shut the fuck up about editing.

Your addition makes zilch difference.

Both this and what Boop posted above refer to a 5 month STILLborn, not an abortion.