High Flying Duck

Posted on Open Forum on this also.
Hagley Park being cleared on Climate Marching kids.
Bangladeshi cricket team were in the Mosque, but apparently got away OK.
Schools in lockdown.
Police calling for people to “stay indoors”.

Kitty Catkin

It’s sickening that the bigots and Islamophobes have sparked this in NZ, where such things just don’t happen. I hope that those who constantly put false stories online are feeling a bit of guilt, but it’s a faint hope.

Gezza

Gezza

Kitty Catkin

It would be impossible to estimate the number of shots, with the echo and ricochets. They said that the police took a long time, but it would seem a long time, even if it was only a few minutes. I can imagine it seeming to be hours before the police arrived.

High Flying Duck

In response to a serious ongoing firearms incident in Christchurch all Christchurch schools have been placed into lockdown. Police urge anyone in central Christchurch to stay off the streets and report any suspicious behaviour immediately to 111.

Gezza

Gezza

Men led from building, police carrying children
Four or five men with their hands on their head were led by police from a building in Linwood.
Mitch Redman, a witness at the scene, said the men came out of the building on Aldwins Rd about 2.20pm.
Police carried out two or three children from the building and put them in a car, he said.
There was a heavy police presence in the area, he said.

Tvnz crew forced to climb over a fence …

Obviously a scary situation, but some of this sounds a bit hysterical …

Gezza

Gezza

Showing video of reporter speaking to blood-spattered man who was in the mosque during the shooting … saying “injured, there was about 50 or 60 people, but deaths I hope, none.”
Says he was the last man out,

Corky

Alan Wilkinson

Chch has had a skinhead problem for a long time. Seems the lunatics have got a lot worse. Will be questions about whether this could have been detected and prevented if it wasn’t just a lone maniac wolf.

Griff.

The attack is on line from the shooters perspective. .
Guy was walking around shooting with a go pro on his helmet it was being up loaded to the web live .
No i will not give a link find it your self if you want to see death..

Gezza

Griff.

You just posted a report from the cops that mentions it.
It was obvious to me that knowledge of the vids existence would emerge .
It is also obvious The cops cant police the entire web it will be out there if you look hard enough.

[Deleted. I don’t want any accusations, insinuations, blaming of anyone. Lashing out at people is not going to help the situation. We can and should be horrified by what happened, but need to avoid inflaming and dividing, because the opposite is now essential. PG]

PartisanZ

It’s not a right to comment here, it’s a privilege. And I have a responsibility to edit things as I see fit. I have no problem with people expressing horror, it has been a horrible afternoon in Christchurch. But I don’t want that to stray into blaming and inflaming.

Gezza

[Deleted – I don’t want any links to any coverage or material of this despicable person or persons. I don’t want to gibe them the publicity and coverage that they used the murder of people to generate. PG]

Alan Wilkinson

Gezza

Police Commissioner on now. “We have four people in custody.” We are pouring defence police emergency resources into that area. We are also setting up a facility so that people can get more information. We don’t have identities of people who have died yet because the affected sites (both mosques are in lockdown). Taking questions.

Four in custody – 3 men, 1 woman, he believes, atm.
Has seen the shooters footage, very disturbing shouldnt be in public domain doing everything they can to remove.
We shouldn’t assume danger is gone. Won’t assume there aren’t others.
A number of IEDs attached to vehicles they have stopped, made safe by defence personnel.
A host of comms staff to his left to keep people informed.
Officers outside Chch being armed as well, not assuming is limited to Christchurch
Conference over – he has other immediate responsibilities

Corky

I’m astounded that it has happened here. It hasn’t happened in many countries. Sadly it only took a very small number of sick individuals to inflict this on New Zealand. It’s actually the opposite of what you have suggested would happen here.

Kitty Catkin

phantom snowflake

Plenty of *concern* being expressed on NZ National Front site; for example:

“I am deeply troubled by this. This is ‘bad optics’. I hope and pray that no one in the ethno-nationalist community has had anything to do with this. Because we know what’s coming: Government crackdown, surveillance, increased gun control and an emboldened Antifa harassing us.”http://www.nationalfront.org.nz/?p=11970#comment-86578

Corky

phantom snowflake

Well I’m certainly not a fan of the “Surveillance State” but it would a relief to so many HARMLESS anti-mining and animal rights activists, for example, to have the so-called Intelligence Agencies turn their attention to actually dangerous people!

Corky

They would already be under watch. Commentators who have lived in Christchurch have stated there has always been groups of Skinners and White Supremacists. One of my rellies just escaped with his life after being stabbed from one back when the Harris Gang was around. Hell, the National Front leader was a regular caller to Willie Jackson and John Tamahere’s talkback show.

But I would be surprised if they were officially involved in this massacre. The pay-off is not worth it.

That said, some above have forgotten I have stated numerous times that the other part of the terrorist equation is white Nationalists and the possibility they could snap if they feel they are losing their country because of various reasons.

Gezza

What’s being indelibly associated with NZ at the moment on Aljaz tv is that some Aussie racist came to NZ and massacred Muslims here, that our security services maybe missed him, that maybe so did Australia’s, and that our PM and Australia’s PM are horrified that an Australian white supremacist with many views that mirror some of yours came here and did that.

What’s also being shown is the shock and horror of New Zealanders that someone could come here and do such a thing.