In this episode an interview with Pascal van Cauwenberghe and Portia Tung. First off Pascal and Marc Evers give a bit of history and background on the XPDay Benelux conference. Then we talk with Pascal and Portia about Business Value Modelling, and why you would want to do it. Both Portia and Pascal are independent consultants and are regular speakers on agile conferences. They are on twitter as @portiatung and @pascalvc, Marc as @marcevers.