Reading some of the threads, i wonder if you can pamper the stuff just too much. I have a plant in my garden that was there when we moved in to the house in 1985. The Rubarb is in just a small nook and was just a small plant for some 8 or 9 yrs. I split the plant for a family member to take a crown and since then it just grows and grows with not much help. I can't remember the last time it had a feed and today I have had a nice Rubarb crumble from the plant with more than I can use left. Soil is PH neutral and I guess the plant was there quite some time before us. Not a clue what the varity is but it tastes very nice thank you.

Hi Gol1locks, oops i hope I haven,t made a mistake with the New Dawn!!! Madame Afred Carriere looks and sound good to me. Its 5mtr+ growth would do the job if I planted one adjacent to each post and let them climb to the swags and train each one towards the centre. Loverly looking flower. Iceberg also looks to foot the bill, my question is, are the stems pliable enough on both, to wraparound rope swags?

Hi figrat, thanks for the suggestions. I was looking at Blush Noisette yesterday the garden centre but was unsure the would travel the distance required considering they have to clime some 7ft before reaching the swags? I have a New Dawn, recently planted, in another location to eventually cover an Arbor so would like something different for the swags. Would Alberic Barbier do the job?