A few days ago, we've opened a new section on our Polish K Desktop Environment website called "KDE Users Database". This is not only for Polish users, it's international. After some time it'll be good rate of KDE users number all over the world. Every registered user can save generated certificates and put them on his desktop or website. So, let's register! Please note, that this is not an official KDE users counter - but, maybe in future - it might change.

Politics aren't the sole indicator of everything else about a person. Ezra Pound was a pretty good writer and also a fascist. I've met Bush supporters and I feel confident I could trust them to help me in a time of need (assuming I wasn't Muslim, naturally). They could probably write good code too.

Teo without getting angry, or feeling offended what is it about Bush that you like?

My father felt that Bush would be a good thing for the country, and stood by his vote whole heartedly until Bush decided to invade Iraq "without just cause." Those are his words not mine and keep in mind he's a former NCO in the Air Force with strong ties to the military. So strong military is a near requirement in my family. I believe the mottoe is honor, duty, country. I'm the first male in nine generations who didn't joined up instead becoming a general technology consultant. Anyway my question is, what is it about Bush that makes you want to support him? I see some good in what he's done such as restarting the "space race" although I don't see how it's feasable with our current budget, but for the most part I don't feel that he's doing a good job, and I don't see any of the contenders (Kerry, Nader, etc) doing any better. Think of me as a possible Bush vote what could you say that would make me want to vote Bush?

What a crappy mess this is. I should have stayed too busy to look. Stop being a fool and honor the guidelines of this site. the Dot is NOT for political discussions! Stop asking people to argue politics with you here. Go somewhere else for that!

Has anyone of you written a web application? I have and am constantly finding bugs. When I started doing the digests over a year ago, I shocked myself by spelling names wrong. People corrected me, since that is obviously important. I do try to get them right, but I make mistakes.

I will say honestly that if anyone had reacted to my errors like this crowd is reacting to what is very likely an error, I would have quit and given my time to another project that deserved my interest.

Lay off. Let the guy fix it. If he is interested in doing anything anymore for this bunch of idiots.

"Honestly though...no offence Anheuser-Busch but what were you thinking when ya named Budweiser Budweiser? Didn't you do your history and notice that there's another brand with the same name that's been out much longer and tastes much better?"

Hooray for revisionist history. There never was a *brand* called Budweiser before Anhauser Busch's. There were beers brewed in Budweis (Cseske Budovice (sp?)), but none of them called themselves "Budweiser" for the same reason you never see a brand of beer called "Pilsener."

As such, Anhauser may have been being a bit uncreative but you do what you can to appeal to your potential clients, many of whome at the time were recent immigrants.

So, Anhauser starts expanding globally and some brewery in Budweis decides to steal (in the sense that they can use it and they make it so Anhauser can't) the name Anhauser has been using for over a century and justify their thievery with the fact that they happen to be in Budweis. Result? People in Europe trip over themselves to castigate the Big American Company for stealing the name. Please.

There is a beer brand called Pilsner Urquell (*THE* beer from Pilsen, Czech Republic). And it is the beer that was then copied by all breweries.

As to Budvar (the beer from Ceske Budejovice, Czech Republic), it was AFAIK (and then again, maybe I am wrong) advertised in German (it is close to the Austrian border) as Budweiser Bier. While the communists were here, the borders were locked to the west, so Anheuser-Busch had no problems with this. Then after the velvet revolution in 1989 the iron curtain fell and Budweiser Bier alias Ceskobudejovicky Budvar was allowed to get out of the former communist block.

As you could have known if you participated in last year's KDE Contributor Conference in the Czech Republic which optionally included a trip to the Budweis plant in Budejovice, there is a formal agreement about the Budweiser name for use in the Americas versus Europe.

>bud light (unless you look at Belgian, German, Finish, or even India for quality..

Oh no! Please don't look at us for (finnish, with to n's) the quality beer. All the beers here taste allmost the same, allmost water that is... I have never tasted budweiser but I have heard it tastes like water and if someone who is used to finnish beers says that budweiser tastes like water then I really don't want anything to do with it. :)

"It's not as if the typical Bush supporter likes to use Open Source software..."

I support Bush and use (and love) Open Source... do I not matter as much as the next person just because I support Bush?

Saying I support Bush means one thing, and one thing only: I support Bush.

Though it does seem like most pro Open Source people (at least the vocal ones) don't like Bush.

I also can't stand Windows, and that damn DVD region code that caused me several days of pain when windows kept saying that my system was set to region code 1, but to play the DVD I had to set it to region code 1 (I took a screenshot of it)

"It's not as if the typical Bush supporter likes to use Open Source software..."

I think it's extremely sad that US politics has devolved into a "our team versus your team" mentality. Implying that one's choice of software is dependent upon one's choice of political party is ludicrous. Being the herd-like creatures that we are, it's comforting to assume that everyone who makes one choice like ours will make all their choices like ours, but it is simply not true.

Åland islands isn't on the list? Great, now I am waiting åland islanders(is it spelled that way?) to start bitching here that it was intentional and it was the evil finnish overlords that are responsible for that "little mistake". :)

For the record, I am from finland and åland islands are part of finland although quite independent part, for example they have their own flag and they speak swedish. Also one can buy tax-free goods if one is going from finland to sweden, or from sweden to finland, and the ferry goes through ålands territorial waters. I am not sure but I also think that åland is not a member of European Union (finland is and åland is part of finland as I said earlier, so go figure... :) but I might be incorrect, if I am wrong please set me straight. Oh, and I almost forgot, åland is also demilitarized zone.

ps. it is strange to write åland since it is called "ahvenanmaa" in finnish. :)

If I understand correctly one can use a word man in english to describe all the people, women and men. If I am wrong please correct me and I would like to have a correction (that is if I am wrong) from someone whose native language is english.

I think that use of the word 'man' only applies when used as a synonym for 'humankind' (or 'mandind').

When Niel Armstrong stepped on thhe moon, he said: "This is a small step for man, but a giant leap for mankind." Unfortunately that's rubbish, because it is the same as: "This is a small step for mankind, but a giant leap for mankind." He should have said: "This is a small step for A man, but a giant leap for mankind." But the world has forgiven him :)

Anyway, when you prefix the word 'man' with A, or THE, or THIS, or as in this case EVERY it is refering to one or more individual men, and not mankind as a whole, and therefore fails to include women.

Yes, English can be a silly language sometimes. Diclaimer: IANAL (IANA Lingust).

>Yes, English can be a silly language sometimes. Diclaimer: IANAL (IANA Lingust).

Now that is one thing I can agree with you anyday. :) So are there anyone out there who's native language is that silly mess called english.
Come out and help us to stop this bashing of your language! :)

Ok, this is getting really offtopic but what the heck, the whole thread has been offtopic almost from the beginning. :)

I didn't say men and women are equal or that they were created(they weren't), I said I have heard that kind of saying somewhere.

I do believe that men and women are equal in a same sense that we (you, Roberto and me, 138) are equal being from the opposite side of the globe (I am from Finland and if I am not mistaken you are from Argentina), we are both people after all, certainly different but equal non the less.

And if you really are from Argentina, I will never forgive you guys for dropping the England in footballs world cup in 1986, and with the hand goal! Oh, the humanity! :)

Back with a hangover...
Well it seems to me that we don't exactly mean the same when are talking about equality. Like I said, when I talked about equality I meant the way we, you and me, are equal or would you say that either of us is superior compared to other, and if that is the case, either of us is superior, I _really_ would like to know how? Other example would be the way people are equal in the eyes of the law (ha like that is going to happen, I know that people are NOT equal in the eyes of the law, but let's assume that we live in an ideal world for a sake of argument).

IMHO arithmetics got absolutely nothing to do with the peoples relationships.

I think that men and women aren't the same, there is a significant differences between genders. We like different things than women (there you go, I am a man), and women like different things than us, for example I have never understood what is the fun in shopping and why one must spend at least an hour in front of a mirror before going outside. Still you have to love them and the differences between men and women is what makes things interesting and worthwhile.

By the way, have you ever tried to explain rules of football to a woman, I have, and believe me, I am NOT going to try to do it again. :) And that brings us back to things that are important. Football.

Cup of 86, ah the memories... Did England deserve to win, tie, or even be close in the match? You say no way, being an avid English football supporter (I blame the television, since our national broadcasting channel used to air first division matches on Saturdays, that was before premier league existed and the prices for airing the games weren't so high and all that crap...) I say yes way. But to be honest the second goal (I have a video clip of that goal here) was amazing display of talent, Diego Maradona was at that time one of the best football players on earth if not the best.

Still, I don't let the facts get in a way of my fanboism and I am bitter about that first goal. :) And if you think that speaks badly about me, then it is not my problem but yours. Since when we are expected to act rationally about football? Let me ask you, when a team that you support have lost a match, aren't you upset regardless the fact whether you were a better or worse team in a match?

I recognize the fact that handgoals are sometimes accepted as valid goals and that is the part of the game and that is the way it is supposed to be, shit happens like in real life, IMHO. When a referee says it is a goal then it is a goal, that's it no buts or ifs. So we agree on this thing.

Well you really can't say what the whole nations choose to remember and how they choose to remember things based on one individual. Especially in this case since I am not a English, I am Finnish as said earlier. I have no ties to England besides the fact that one of my friends lives and works in London. And I am sure there are people in Finland that support Argentina. Hell, some of my friends even support Italy, imagine that! :)

You might wonder why I don't speak about Finnish football, it is simple, it is shit. European championship tournament starts next Saturday. Even Latvia is playing there and Finland is not, for crying out loud! Not that is a bad thing that Latvia got in the cup, I think it is wonderful! And Riga is a beautiful city I were there on last July and I am coming back on this July. :)

So, Roberto, see you in two years in Germany! I am probably going there because it is not far a way from Finland.
And best of luck for qualifying games.

> Yes, he said: "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."

That is funny because I always remember trying to figure out what poetic meaning that was supposed to be when I heard it. (Yes, I remember watching it on TV and it sounded like "one small step for man".) Years later I heard that the transmission wasn't so good and that is what he actually said, which makes more sense. It is still today often misquoted.

What propaganda? Only you're doing it by omitting stuff as "Please note, that this is not an official KDE users counter" and giving the impression of a widespread attitude in the KDE project ("feelings find their way into the project"). There are more important things your country should worry about like respecting human and international rights.

"Homosexuality just might be the most destructive congenital brain defect mankind has ever experienced. If only we knew for sure what caused it, so that we could treat it and gradually end this source of societal decay." : http://the-amazing.us/simplyamerican/4616/

There's a reason I posted my commentary off-site on a privately operated and funded domain: politics don't belong in KDE or on the Dot. I'm not sure what makes you think your disagreement with *completely off-topic and unrelated* commentary is important enough to be posted here.

"I say that being born in a poor, backward country like Mexico is something no
American should have to endure."

"Homosexuality just might be the most destructive congenital brain defect
mankind has ever experienced. If only we knew for sure what caused it, so that
we could treat it and gradually end this source of societal decay."

And between statements like these, the speak about baseball...

Rob Kaper, do you agree with what Mr Stevens stated above, would you put
your signature under these statements?