Patience people. There's not much out there to go after anyway, why throw a bunch of cash and term at a guy who isn't a huge upgrade?

I'm looking forward to some youth on this team. We've had it too good for too long, I remember the days of the 90's when the team was up and coming. It was the best time to watch the team that I can remember.

Also keep in mind that nobody thought the signings of Sammy and Manny were much when they were completed. The eam went to the cup final that year.

I remember the days of the 90's when the team was up and coming. It was the best time to watch the team that I can remember.

I liked winning President's trophies, being the best team in the league and going to the Final. Setting records in every franchise category. But to each their own.

Also keep in mind that nobody thought the signings of Sammy and Manny were much when they were completed. The eam went to the cup final that year.

Sammy and Manny played absolutely no role in the playoffs the year we went to the Final. In fact they weren't even playing. Never mind the fact that they were big money signings compared to the scrubs we just aquired. Strange examples to use.

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I remember the days of the 90's when the team was up and coming. It was the best time to watch the team that I can remember.

I liked winning President's trophies, being the best team in the league and going to the Final. Setting records in every franchise category. But to each their own.

Also keep in mind that nobody thought the signings of Sammy and Manny were much when they were completed. The eam went to the cup final that year.

Sammy and Manny played absolutely no role in the playoffs the year we went to the Final. In fact they weren't even playing. Never mind the fact that they were big money signings compared to the scrubs we just aquired. Strange examples to use.

I'm sorry, I forgot that there are a bunch of teams that win the President's trophy every year - right? It doesn't happen, so if that's what you're expecting prepare to be disappointed.

Sammy and Manny both played in the playoffs that year, but also had big roles during the season to help in those President's trophies that you love so much. My point is that nobody thought a damn thing when they we signed them, and they played big role that year. Would you prefer I used the Higgins trade? He played a big role that playoffs, and again nobody thought a damn thing about that tade when it happened. Lapierre trade too.

Now St. Loo signs Roy - they've got major cap issues, no way they can sign both Pietrangelo and Stewart while keeping everyone they have. If I'm Gillis the offer sheet for Stewart is a real possibility.

It's the beginning of July. Last time I checked the season started in October. Let's at least wait a couple of weeks before we shit all ove Gillis as per usual. If nothing else is done I will join in the shitstorm, but I'm willing to at least wait to see what happens.

Diehard1 wrote:I'm sorry, I forgot that there are a bunch of teams that win the President's trophy every year - right? It doesn't happen, so if that's what you're expecting prepare to be disappointed.

Sammy and Manny both played in the playoffs that year, but also had big roles during the season to help in those President's trophies that you love so much. My point is that nobody thought a damn thing when they we signed them, and they played big role that year. Would you prefer I used the Higgins trade? He played a big role that playoffs, and again nobody thought a damn thing about that tade when it happened.

You're right. Nobody thought Manny Malhotra was one of the best faceoff men in the league. That's certainly not why we completely dominated FO stats across the board in that year.

Sammy was certainly not acquired as a supporting scorer that absolutely loved to shoot the puck from all kinds of places (granted he stopped that for some reason).

Chris Higgins is another guy we definitely did not sign based on any kind of reputation of a solid 2 way player with tendencies to go on explosive scoring streaks.

These guys got signed, and performed - to a degree - in exactly the way they were advertised. Who is this Nobody person, and why isn't he doing his homework?

Diehard1 wrote:I'm sorry, I forgot that there are a bunch of teams that win the President's trophy every year - right? It doesn't happen, so if that's what you're expecting prepare to be disappointed.

Sammy and Manny both played in the playoffs that year, but also had big roles during the season to help in those President's trophies that you love so much. My point is that nobody thought a damn thing when they we signed them, and they played big role that year. Would you prefer I used the Higgins trade? He played a big role that playoffs, and again nobody thought a damn thing about that tade when it happened.

You're right. Nobody thought Manny Malhotra was one of the best faceoff men in the league. That's certainly not why we completely dominated FO stats across the board in that year.

Sammy was certainly not acquired as a supporting scorer that absolutely loved to shoot the puck from all kinds of places (granted he stopped that for some reason).

Chris Higgins is another guy we definitely did not sign based on any kind of reputation of a solid 2 way player with tendencies to go on explosive scoring streaks.

These guys got signed, and performed - to a degree - in exactly the way they were advertised. Who is this Nobody person, and why isn't he doing his homework?

From the content of this post I'm guessing you weren't watching much hockey back then other than the Canucks. Higgins was awful in Florida, everyone thought he had lost it. Sammy was an under the radar signing, and everyone thought Gillis overpaid for Manny.

Diehard1 wrote: Who is this Nobody person, and why isn't he doing his homework?

From the content of this post I'm guessing you weren't watching much hockey back then other than the Canucks. Higgins was awful in Florida, everyone thought he had lost it. Sammy was an under the radar signing, and everyone thought Gillis overpaid for Manny.

Again, who's nobody? Or who's everybody?

I think we're on the same side of the coin here...I agree they stepped in - hardly as blockbuster deals - and had big contributions towards the Canucks' success, but I don't think that "everyone" pass those signings over like it was nothing.

Perhaps moreso in the case of Chris Higgins, but I don't think you can put Malholtra in this discription. A smart, 2 way depth centre with an exceptional face off record doesn't go unnoticed by anyone.

Diehard1 wrote: Who is this Nobody person, and why isn't he doing his homework?

From the content of this post I'm guessing you weren't watching much hockey back then other than the Canucks. Higgins was awful in Florida, everyone thought he had lost it. Sammy was an under the radar signing, and everyone thought Gillis overpaid for Manny.

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Again, who's nobody? Or who's everybody?

I think we're on the same side of the coin here...I agree they stepped in - hardly as blockbuster deals - and had big contributions towards the Canucks' success, but I don't think that "everyone" pass those signings over like it was nothing.

Perhaps moreso in the case of Chris Higgins, but I don't think you can put Malholtra in this discription. A smart, 2 way depth centre with an exceptional face off record doesn't go unnoticed by anyone.[/quote]

Got it - think I misunderstood your last post. You understand my point, just trying to say we shouldn't judge signings or the lack thereof until we see what happens. I'm underwhelmed so far, though I wouldn't have wanted Clarkson or a few other guys at the deals they received either.