if there was a runner on first and third and one out and fly ball to left field the runner on third tagged up and runner on first leaves too soon the ball is thrown to first without time being called for the third out the run still counts if he scored before the ball was thrown to first.i still say that in your situation the two runs should have counted.i say the umpire was wrong.if there were two outs when the batter was up then the two runs wouldn't have counted

two runs should have counted.the out between third and home was the third out since the force at first base would have been second out a.you can't take those runs off the board when they already scored.

every tournie the pace 55's played in ssusa cal was working at.he answered all our questions as well as dealing with our complaints.during all these tournies he worked hard and was genuinely concerned about the players.the pace team feels that we are very fortunate to meet a man of cal's caliber and we consider ourselves lucky to know him.cal if you read this the pace team would like to thank you for everything you have done to help out ssusa softball.caL STAY SAFE hope to see you again.jr.pace#11

they should cut down on the entry fees and play 2 prelim games and double elimination.they should never play 3:30 prelim games and then start tournie at 5pm.everyone had to get in rush hour traffic and only a third of the teams played the first game.the teams that played the 2nd game friday had to wait around for hours to play.

tim i agree the more games the better but play the guarantee games in the prelims not the real tournie.we are paying alot of money to play why are we doing it this way.i dont believe anyone likes this concept once the prelims are over

i will never go to another 5 game guarantee tournie like raleigh again.the teams that won the 8am saturday game which started the actual tournie were the only teams that could be eliminated saturday.if you lost the 8am game you were guaranteed to play sunday.plus the winner of the 8am game played all day while the losers came back at 2:30.there were 6 teams in the bracket the guarantee games should have been prelims.we lost our 2nd game and had 2 play sweets after being at the fields since 7am.sweets played and lost at 8am they didnt have 2 play until 2:30.if sweets lost they were still in the tournie sunday.the 2 teams that were eliminated saturday were the 2 teams that won at 8am everyoneelse played sunday.dont understand the concept of rewarding losing.not taking anything away from the victors nor crying about losing.only whining about this concept.if us and the mass.team would have won our second game the 4 losing teams would have played each other with noone getting eliminated.been around a long time and never heard of this and dont want to play and also pay to enter something like this again.is it just me?

rb is very wrong on this issue.he allows major plus teams to play against major teams.these are his rules,now he disallows a major plus team in the 60's but allows major plus teams to play against other major teams.i believe last year turn2 got beat by a super major team in the 55 finals.nothing was said then.rb shouldnt have his cake and eat it too.he should never blame his decision on other teams he has only himself to blame.pace#11

where can i find the rules for individual players qualifying for tournaments.where is it written in the rulebook.if we go to the northeast tournament in syracuse will my players be eligible for las vegas?i cant put 3 players on my vegas roster because they have been injured.now they can play.vegas will be our 5th ssusa tournie this yr.won't be making syracuse if i cant qualify them

birdie it cant work in the 60s because turn 2 is too good.they beat 50s and 55s.they work hard at their game and deserve what they get.they play anyone and everyone without a complaint.congrats to them.it isnt working out in 55s like you think either.we pace played 55 major plus for a year and won only one game.that isnt very competitive to me,this year triangle masters already got reclassified to major where they just came in second in the spa nationals,also highstreet bucs are struggling and do not enjoy playing plus not to mention bass dissolved and nj hitman are rated major plus even though half their team is with the sportsplex team.if they are going to combine major with major plus there should be a 5homerun 1up rule with 5 runs an inning this way the game is closer going in to the all you can inning thus giving the lower teams a better chance.why should teams like docs pace and highstreet bucs who recruits their players locally have to get rid of players and recruit outside their area to compete in major plus?that is my biggest concern about joining with major plus.i dont need to win i just need to feel that i can compete and sometime win.typed enough stay safe and keep hitting

i know bill gates shafted us,i just wonder how much he shafted steve and the rest of the company.steve is saying he will make it right will end up costing his company alot of money.i wish steve and his company good luck in fixing this problem

some of the players on the pace55's team purchased the original bat made in china and also ordered the new bat from bill gates.you know the rest of the story.my team is not worried about our situation.we have played against steve many times and find him to be an honorable man.the east coast rep is also a class act.these 2 men are telling us they will make good on the shady dealings of bill gates.this is good enough for me and my teammates.i realize that they dont have to make good on this legally.i also know that wouldnt be good for a new business.this hasnt been conveyed to me by them they have consistantly stood by their product.i realize they havent produced it yet but i hope when it is finished it will turnout great.there is talk on this site about politicians who continually rob us that the majority keeps voting for and keeps forgiving but an honest man who is trying to do something positive is put down.i am not saying that complaints are not valid all i am saying is what is wrong with giving the company more time to get things right.what do we have to lose they already have our money.keep hitting and stay safe
jr#11 pace

donll major plus players that dont have a major plus team in their area to play for can play for a major or aaa team in their area.i dont know if that is true in spa now because they have an impact player list.maybe it is true now in all org.you need to be a lawyer to figure out some aspects of senior softball

donll-the 2best players on a major team are probably major plus players.if my major plus team or my major team picks these 2 players up that weakens their team.they could disband.my team plays major but when we play issa we have to play major plus teams since major plus teams have an option to play major .i could ask 2 players from doc's out of ohio to play with me.i would have a better team and weaken doc's team.this starts a domino effect because more and more teams start raiding rosters thus weakening the major teams.in the east we play major and the same few teams over and over.i dont think we played one tournie where there were 5 major teams.when we had 5 teams it was major and major plus combined with no runs givenwe lost 3 finals to major plus teams.i am not complaining at all.dont care who we play.no matter how you count it there are only so many players to go around.look at the nba they let miami try to build a powerhouse now everybody is trying to do it.there becomes no balance.

jawood at least when you play ssusa and spa major rosters play major rosters.issa lets major plus play major if they want to.i am not sure of the major plus roster requirements.i know major teams have to be touching states.there are no runs given to the major teams.i have no problem with it but i am still curious about what a major plus roster can consist of in rb's assn.

if and when all assn.were to combine major and major plus teams it could be a problem with the non-bordering state rule .major teams might try to pickup 2 players .this might cut down the teams even further.it wouldnt hurt my team because we are all from the same city.

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