Posted - 2007.10.25 11:39:00 -
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I'm playing this game now for nearly one year and I still don't know were to go.I just can't decide what race I really want to play, so I start over and over and get nowhere. Well I have now reached the point that I'm saying either I decide now and stick with it or I really should avoid further frustration and quit eve for good (which I really don't want cause it's so awesome).

Anyways, help me decide.

So far my thoughts are the following:Amarr ships are just so shiney that I want to have them but their laser/cap issues are a big con for me.Minmatar ships appeal to me because they are fast rustbuckets.Gallente ships are great for pvp but I really don't like their looks.Caldari ships, some look great, some awfull, overall the race which I'm least interested in apart from their recons.

My interests are in pvp, however I also 'like' to pve because I'm nearly always broke.So help me decide.Crosstraining is not an option right now because I really want to get somewhere at last.

Originally by:Temo KamuI'm playing this game now for nearly one year and I still don't know were to go.I just can't decide what race I really want to play, so I start over and over and get nowhere. Well I have now reached the point that I'm saying either I decide now and stick with it or I really should avoid further frustration and quit eve for good (which I really don't want cause it's so awesome).

Anyways, help me decide.

So far my thoughts are the following:Amarr ships are just so shiney that I want to have them but their laser/cap issues are a big con for me.Minmatar ships appeal to me because they are fast rustbuckets.Gallente ships are great for pvp but I really don't like their looks.Caldari ships, some look great, some awfull, overall the race which I'm least interested in apart from their recons.

My interests are in pvp, however I also 'like' to pve because I'm nearly always broke.So help me decide.Crosstraining is not an option right now because I really want to get somewhere at last.

If you go for the T2 small ships, then you can easily get Interceptor/AF/Covops/Dictor to 4. Then if you don't like the minmatar ceptor, or the gallante dictor, or whatever, it's pretty easy to train another racial frigate to 5.

Posted - 2007.10.25 11:47:00 -
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Starting over and over again is never a good idea, cause you never get anywhere in the end. There's so many skills that are the sheer basics and 'need to have' for any and all ships that you could pilot that it's really a shame to start over.

You say that crosstraining isn't an option, but it's the bread and butter of Eve. Here there are no set classes that you need to fill and complete. Once on a certain path, you can just disregard it and perhaps come back to it later. And honestly, it doesn't take too much time to train a bit in different race's ships.

It's a wee bit of a shame that you don't like the Caldari ships. I agree with you that they are one of the ugliest ships around... tho' I do like the Drake's look . But in my opinion they are also one of the most versatile ships. You can EWAR with them, specialize in guns or go all missiles. And this too makes them ideal ships to PvE in (missions) and PvP in.

So, if you truely want to stick to just one race... I'd say go with Caldari...

(or go Gallante, drones can fill out almost all niches as well that you'd like to do)

Originally by:AlskiAhhh just cross train like mad, it might not be the most efficent way to spend your SP, but it is fun.

it's better thsn trowing away your skills.I mean you have the basic ones like for shields and stuff.

just train more:)

that's why people like me have only one account, because we plan on staying in eve for so long it won't matter :P-----------------------------------I'm working my way through collegetarget CCPneed...more room...

Originally by:MalcanisI assume after a year you have good support skills?

One could assume. But most of the time I think after a month or two "maybe I should start over as [insert race here]"

So basically I want to start over one last time, get my attributes right from the beginning, plug +3s in straight away..., you get the picture.

Well if you have a years worth of skills, you might as well use what you have. Pick a direction and stick with it. I am quite familiar with the dilemma you face: I realised that after 6 months, I had basically achieved nothing, skillwise, that I didn't have at 3 months. So I decided to focus on small ships purely because they're relatively quick, and it's very easy to respec to another race. I can add 2 ceptors, a dictor, 2 covops and 2 AFs to my options merely by spending a week or so training racial frigate 5, and 4 days to get small projectile or small laster 5.

Posted - 2007.10.25 11:52:00 -
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Yeah I know... the main reason for not wanting to crosstrain is that I'd say I stick to one race to get there a bit faster.Once I've made a settling decision and stuck with it I can still crosstrain after I'm satisfied with my ships performance.I need to get over the "oh, I want this, no wait, I want... no WAIT, maybe, no wait"-phase.

Posted - 2007.10.25 12:03:00 -
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Just look for a few ships you would like to fly and train for them. At the beginning it may suck because you'll have to skill so much but pretty soon you'll be very flexible and also able to cross-train to any other race you like. For instance as soon as you have 6-7mil SP in Gunnery for one weapon system you can cross-train another weapon system within a month or so. The same goes for any t2 ships. Here you always need the same support-skills for all four races so as soon as you can fly a HAC from one race you only need to train Cruiser 5 to be able to fly a HAC from another race.

If you really can't decide then do what I did (before I had multiple accounts and characters) - start with Caldari ships and weapons until you can run lvl4s for ISK and then start training gunnery and Gallente ships.

In the end I doubt it makes a huge difference... if you PvP you'll be in a gang most of the time and every race has good ships for gangs that can contribute something worthwhile so I wouldn't wait around to long and simply start training something.

Posted - 2007.10.25 12:19:00 -
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First off when you say you "started over and over" are you saying you scrapped your previous characters with the skills they had?

I am over 2 years old with like 33.8 mil sp and I can fly every T1 ship in the game except maybe like...the last caldari industrial ship. Never start a new character. Just buy the skills and you're good to go.

Your best bet is to pick a ship you DO like and just train for that ship and all the support skills that surround it. Then when you want to use a different ship you can switch your training to skills that support that ship and its use. I do not mean an entire race, I mean a specific ship. Like the Retribution, Falcon, Abaddon, Maelstrom, Rifter, Drake, etc. Just pick a ship and start becoming uber with it.

If you did restart and lose all the SP every time you got tired of a race then there isn't much I can tell you since you would be much farther along if you had just kept the first character.---

Posted - 2007.10.25 12:29:00 -
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As Malcanis said, but on your way start with Minnies and train Rifter skills up fast. As your becoming useful in the ship (and that does NOT mean T2) head down to somewhere like IS-R7P and its surrounding systems and go ratting in her. You will make some money, get plenty of experience against the NPCs and due to the nature of 0.0 you will get good practice at basic survival skills out there for heavier PVP later on.

If you loot your wrecks etc then there is a nice market down there for some of the goods too.

So, easy to train up, easy to see your skill specilisation starting to work and easy to upgrade to "better" ships in a fairly short time.

Posted - 2007.10.25 12:31:00 -
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My character, 2003, i STILL don't know what to do, i change my style of play almost weekly, do this and that, get bored, be a market*****, then go mining, shoot something, then just fly around throwing packets of crisps to homeless people, and back to sitting in a station watching my ship spin a round round, it spins around

Posted - 2007.10.25 14:22:00 -
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OK, this reply is based on the assumption that you mean start over as in reroll from scratch.As far as starting over, the only reason there CAN be in EVE, is to get attributes more closely atuned to the primary skills you'll be training.

Industrialist/Scientist :High intelligence with memory 2 or 3 points behindPerception at the level of memory with willpower 2 or 3 points behind.Charisma as low as it will go (or a little bit higher, if you expect to be doing alot of trade-skills)ie : 12/9/9/6/3 (int/mem/per/wil/cha)

Fighter :High perception with willpower 2 or 3 points behindIntelligence at the level of willpower with memory 2 or 3 points behind.Charisma as low as it will go (or a little bit higher, if you expect to be doing alot of gang-skills)ie : 8/6/12/10/3 (int/mem/per/wil/cha)

And here i'm talking about BASE attributes - before you've factored in any learner-skills...And the two examples are using the Achura (why are all good characters caldari, when their ships suck so badly ? )

Beyond the attributes, do what tickles your fancy - it's a game afterall, and games are meant to be entertaining

That said, Raven for easy ISK-making (boring, IMO)Gallente for good overall PvPMinmatar for fun PvPAmarr for being 80% at all of the above

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