after knowing that he wonwasbillclinton. isthat right? >> exactly, yes. >> does he feel a debt of gratitude to him? >> well, there's no question about it. as he said to president clinton, he was the most valuable player in this campaign. and we got a chance to spend some time with president clinton over the weekend. he just campaigned his heart out. and he was a -- because he believes that there were two choices here and one led us forward and one led us back. and he was very effective out there. there is a strong sense of gratitude and i think the president is looking forward to calling on president clinton in the future for advice, council and assistance as we move this country forward. >> secondly, the biggest tragedy of the whole evening for many of us was the fact that your mustache gets to stay on. are you a relieved man this morning? >> i will say, when i made the bet, the bet was if we lost pennsylvania, michigan or minnesota i would shave off my mustache. i did it with complete confidence that this mustache, which has been appended to my face for 40 years was going now

ofbillclinton. thisis a question of you want your cia director to have good judgment. is that asking too much? and this was obviously a case of bad judgment. there's a -- i would hope, by the way -- >> and should it just be the cia director or should it be anybody? where do you draw the line? >> i don't know where you draw the line but especially the cia director. this might also be a good time for the country to think about the militarization of the cia. i'm not sure we should have military leaders leading the cia, people in the military. >> that's been a long debate. that's why they wanted him to retire, correct. >> the cia is going to become increasingly a paramilitary operation. we ought to talk about that because that's a momentous development. >> a few months ago the gallup poll indicated our military was the most trusted institution in american life, so this was a huge blow at a time when congress is as popular as a root canal to have another institution of government have failed so badly, so, you know, we respect his service to the country, his sense of duty but this was a fa

to the other. no one party can control the outcome of our collective deliberations.asbillclintonmightsay, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady. michelle obama didn't want to wait until january to watch the third season of "downton abbey" so it sent dvds to the white house. the three of us are -- with hands on hips, where's ours? where's ours? >> if you read only one thing this morning, today's must read is courtesy of the national constitution center, which argues in a fascinating article why the petraeus affair has nothing on the nation's first sex scandal, hint, it included a duel and it's up on our facebook page alt facebook/jansingco. borm the naturally sweet monk fru

but achieves our common goal of balancing a budget.somethingbillclintonandnewt gingrich did in the mid-90s. shannon: are you against closing loop holes? >> i'm in favor of new revenues through economic growth. if you grow the economy at 4% a year, that 4% a year over 2% a year over a decade raises $5 trillion in more revenue. not a tax increase. but revenue through growth. why would you raise taxes when you could debt $5 trillion by cutting marginal tax rates and getting rid of some of the overregulation that obama is threatening the economy with and having more economic growth and more people pat work? that's the better way to raise revenue. it's disingenuous to say both parties have failed. the republicans in the house passed the ryan plan which fundamentally reformed entitlements. it needs the senate and the president to go along with it. but the republicans passed a real budget in writing in legislative form not some essay about what they think might be done which is all the president has done. shannon: paul ryan did win his house seat so he will be back there with the budget committee

cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster topresidentbillclinton. monicacrowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehner got together. that republicans are going to refuse to go along with any tax increases until, really because they want to see it done slightly different way which we can get into. the president says, that he won't budge either, monica. >> yes. what goes around and comes around and here we are exactly the same spot, martha, as you just said. there are two sacred principle at play for the republicans not raising taxes and cutting spending. focus seems to be because president and democrats do have control over this narrative only thing that seems to be at the conversation here, what we're talking about is, the tax issue, revenue versus rates. but i also think that the republicans really need to focus on cutting spending. that is the other part of this equation that is, just as important if not more important, martha becaus

, but the republicans have substantial power because of the rules of the senate. the democratic president.asbillclintonwould say, it's arithmetic. nothing is going to get done unless we find a way to work together. and i'll tell you, the public has just had it. well, you know, the approval rating of congress is in single digits. it's pretty awful. and it's all about, in my view, the inability to simply sit down and solve some of these problems. >> senator, quick question, brian sullivan from cnbc here. would you support a fiscal cliff resolution on taxes that did not involve an elevation of the top-end rate? in other words, 35 to 39.6, would you support a tax increase but only as boehner would like to do through the reductions or deductions, or are you fixed to that rate? >> well, i think we're fixed too much on this issue because it's only a small piece. even if you do the increase on the people above $250,000, it's a long way from solving the full problem. i'm a simpson-bowles guy myself in the sense that i think there's got to be an across-the-board settlement. so i think what you're really

-times" washington bureau chief, lynnsweet.bill, we'llstart with you, you heard senator mccain, ifhillaryclintonleadsthe state department do you think that susan rice has a better chance at the job, especially after we heard on friday from senators conrad and feinstein, saying that rice was really only saying what she was told she could say from the c.i.a.? >> that's right. she appears to have followed talking points from the c.i.a., which were wrong. the talking points said that what happened in libya, that terrible tragedy was a spontaneous protest, hked by extremists. the problem was the information was incorrect. it was actually a premeditated terrorist attack. as the c.i.a. now acknowledges. that's an issue, it should be debated and fully discussed. i don't know that it is so terribly disqualifying, the way senators mccain and graham have made it out to be. as to say this woman is not qualified to be secretary of state. that's a very different issue. >> lynn, what do you think? you wrote about the issue and you say that the president, the roots go very deep with rice here. the commitment

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