huffdiver wrote:I watched the whole series and was not really impressed with the people they show selling the stuff and the "patients" using the stuff.

The guys in Ft. Collins were bummbed that the city closed down all of their shops but they still have stores in Denver and Co. Spgs so they should be ok. They said they started their dispensary business after their "real estate jobs" went south a few years ago. Wonder if they are Californicators who came here for the real estate boom and now have to turn to what they probably do best- grow and sell pot.

The people in Boulder are pretty clueless as to how to run a business (have a LOT of capital to weather the slow times), and the guy that manages the store was pretty funny when he talked because he was always stoned (or he may just be stupid).

Not too good of an impression for the Feds to see or the rest of the country to see for that matter. It makes the dispensary owners look like typical stoners and not medical professionals that we should be seeing.

And that right there is what will kill Amendment 64 and we who are the **"uneducated", "immature", "bigots", "low intellect" folks really don't have to do a thing except vote no on 64 in November.

** These very words are from actual Amendment 64 folks on DP who describe people who don't believe in legalizing pot. But, if you vote yes on 64 you are then highly intelligent, witty, not a bigot, and can smoke a joint the size of a baseball bat in Civil Center Park all day.

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In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Sanders20 wrote:Pot has nothing to with you SL10, and who are you to talk about peoples character when you disowned your own brother?

Oh, yes it does in a big way.

If you had read my earlier postings on the subject you would know why.

As far as "disowning" my brother is from his own actions. He was told what the consequences would be if he stayed the course dealing with illicit drugs. He chose his path and myself, Mom, and deceased Father chose ours.

My Dad and Mom were dead set against illicit drugs in or around our family. And my brother was well aware of this and chose to do his own thing. He must now pay the price for that action and no one else.

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

That is what is pathetic about you SL10, you waste your time reading posts from people and on a subject that you do not understand. You are retired, and this is what you spend your time on? The reason i am ranting and raving is because OF MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE SCUM ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANTI-MARIJUANA MOVEMENT, FOR INSTANCE PROBATION OFFICERS AND DRUG REHAB CHARLATANS. Mark my words, you will be exposed as a liar, not by me in another one of my posts, BUT BY SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU IN YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLE OR AMONGST YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS! I guarantee you, I can feel the charma coning on, it will occur. I speak in truisms, I speak from a position of balance, the good will balance out your evil and your time is coming, watch.

Did you change your pathetic little quote because of me? Thanks. I am sure your Pandora's Box quote will get just as tiresome. "Once you have given up the ghost, everything follows with dead certaint"The eye that is altered alter all" W. Blake"everything that happens, when it has significance, is in the form of a contradiction" Henry Miller "wherever I went I formented discord, not because I was idealistic but because I was like a searchlight exposing the futility and stupidity of everything" H.M. "Give in to the fate of your own freewill" Aurelius

So because the twisted government who you bow before and worship made up a law that should never have ever existed, exactly as slavery should never of existed, because they made up some stupid boundary, you disowned your own brother. You still are a little child. "My mommy and Daddy told my Brother not to do this but he did anyway and now i hate him". Mommy and Daddy, do you love me? You on't hate me like my little brother, do you? You still trying to win over you parents love? Did you not get to suck your thumb enough when you were younger?

You also stated before that your brother had repeatedly gotten busted for pot possession, not dealing illicit drugs. Was he dealing just pot? Or have you not been truthful?

How much you wanna bet your brother was a hippie against the Vietnam War, You went off to the Vietnam War (never should have been there, your hippie brother was right all along) and that is precisely were the division arose? He did not suck up to your overbearing prejudice parents so YOUR WHOLE FAMILY DISOWNED HIM?

Sanders20 wrote:That is what is pathetic about you SL10, you waste your time reading posts from people and on a subject that you do not understand. You are retired, and this is what you spend your time on? The reason i am ranting and raving is because OF MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE SCUM ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANTI-MARIJUANA MOVEMENT, FOR INSTANCE PROBATION OFFICERS AND DRUG REHAB CHARLATANS. Mark my words, you will be exposed as a liar, not by me in another one of my posts, BUT BY SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU IN YOUR SOCIAL CIRCLE OR AMONGST YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS! I guarantee you, I can feel the charma coning on, it will occur. I speak in truisms, I speak from a position of balance, the good will balance out your evil and your time is coming, watch.

Did you change your pathetic little quote because of me? Thanks. I am sure your Pandora's Box quote will get just as tiresome. "Once you have given up the ghost, everything follows with dead certaint"The eye that is altered alter all" W. Blake"everything that happens, when it has significance, is in the form of a contradiction" Henry Miller "wherever I went I formented discord, not because I was idealistic but because I was like a searchlight exposing the futility and stupidity of everything" H.M. "Give in to the fate of your own freewill" Aurelius

Keep it up you are doing a fine job there for your cause.

I am sure someone is laughing their butt off at ya doing a Google search on the subject and see postings like this one. Possible a voter who says WOW. Then bye-bye 64.

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

SL10, were your "mommy and daddy" just as set against legal drugs that them and YOURSELF consumed and still consume to this date? Be honest, WHAT DRUGS DO YOU INGEST ON A DAILY BASIS? If you drink coffee, you are consuming caffeine, caffeine IS A DRUG, caffeine is addictive, AND UNLIKE POT, MORON, IT IS DEADLY!@#@# ! The lethal dose of caffeine is ~ 7-15 grams, the lethal dose of pot is ~ 1500 pounds ingested withing fifteen minutes time!! 453 grams/pound (1500 pounds) = 679,500 grams. What is a bigger number..... 15 or 679,500?

On to prescription drugs. Tell me your loving mommy and daddy never consumed prescription filth, and neither do you, LIAR!!

You better not EVER consume one sip of alcohol or you are worse than anyone that takes one puff of pot.

I guarantee you that you do not abstain from alcohol, from caffeine, from prescription drugs, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.

SL10, in the past few days, have you seen that traffic pot fatality you are hoping so dearly for? Remember your own words, illegal activities do not get reported on the news, just legal ones, like alcohol traffic fatalities (drunk driving is actually legal?), child molestations and murder, these are all legal......?

The pot DUI fatalities are not reported because they are based upon a lie, just as is every last word out of your mouth on the topic of pot. ( and likely most everything else)

Disowned your own brother? It is beyond words that you even admit to this.

Sanders20 wrote:So because the twisted government who you bow before and worship made up a law that should never have ever existed, exactly as slavery should never of existed, because they made up some stupid boundary, you disowned your own brother. You still are a little child. "My mommy and Daddy told my Brother not to do this but he did anyway and now i hate him". Mommy and Daddy, do you love me? You on't hate me like my little brother, do you? You still trying to win over you parents love? Did you not get to suck your thumb enough when you were younger?

You also stated before that your brother had repeatedly gotten busted for pot possession, not dealing illicit drugs. Was he dealing just pot? Or have you not been truthful?

How much you wanna bet your brother was a hippie against the Vietnam War, You went off to the Vietnam War (never should have been there, your hippie brother was right all along) and that is precisely were the division arose? He did not suck up to your overbearing prejudice parents so YOUR WHOLE FAMILY DISOWNED HIM?

Let's clean up some facts here from an "low intellect". "immature" person like me to a "highly intelligent" person like yourself.

1) I explained this already no need to repeated it again.

2) That's the most hilarious thing I read all day. Thanks for the laugh. And see point #1.

3) Under current laws Federal and State pot is an illicit drug. Get the picture?!?!? Brother sold an illicit drug, possessed an illicit drug, smoked an illicit drug. And to what I stated ole Mom and Dad didn't want "illicit drugs" in or around the family. I do believe that would be another way of saying POT would be included in the term illicit drugs.

4) Being that hypothetical situation never happened in my life. I honestly couldn't not answer that as in 1975 the U.S. wasn't drafting 15 year old kids back then.

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In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Sanders20 wrote:SL10, were your "mommy and daddy" just as set against legal drugs that them and YOURSELF consumed and still consume to this date? Be honest, WHAT DRUGS DO YOU INGEST ON A DAILY BASIS? If you drink coffee, you are consuming caffeine, caffeine IS A DRUG, caffeine is addictive, AND UNLIKE POT, MORON, IT IS DEADLY!@#@# ! The lethal dose of caffeine is ~ 7-15 grams, the lethal dose of pot is ~ 1500 pounds ingested withing fifteen minutes time!! 453 grams/pound (1500 pounds) = 679,500 grams. What is a bigger number..... 15 or 679,500?

On to prescription drugs. Tell me your loving mommy and daddy never consumed prescription filth, and neither do you, LIAR!!

You better not EVER consume one sip of alcohol or you are worse than anyone that takes one puff of pot.

I guarantee you that you do not abstain from alcohol, from caffeine, from prescription drugs, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.

Wow!!!!! Two more words to add to my list on what Amendment 64 folks really feel about folks who don't believe pot should be legal. Thanks.

Now, if i was one of the Amendment 64 crowd who voted yes on 64 you wouldn't be calling me names or anyone else for that matter, right?!!?!? And conducting a "Spanish Inquisition" like this would ya?!?!

So, who would be the hypocrite then???

As far as drinking caffeine, booze, or have taken prescription or over the counter drugs like Aspirin who hasn't done these things?!?! I bet Amendment 64 folks do these things all the time. So, what the relevance here!?!?

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

The point is that you are too stupid to understand THAT THE LAW NEVER SHOULD HAVE EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Just because idiots make a law DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS RIGHT!! As I just said, you are a follower, you do as you are told, you are a puppet. You were a number and you were proud to be nothing more. Shut up about your brothers decisions, the law should have never existed then, it should not exist now, and low and behold, there is a massive movement to rectify the wrong of the past.

When segregation was a law in the 50's and 60's that was okay, cause it was a law, right fool? When woman had no right to vote, that was okay and should never have been changed? Female genital mutilation is not illegal in many countries, thus it is okay by your ignorant standards. You lack the ability to reason, you do as you are told, again, that is why you blindly followed mommies and daddies advice, went off to fight in a useless war, and in the end you disowned your own DNA, not because he was a murderer, but because he was doing LESS than what a pharmacist does on a daily basis.

You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother.

Sanders20 wrote:SL10, I could give two sh*** about amendment 64. Even if it does pass, it will be unlikely that Obama or Romney will let it stand. I am here for one sole reason, to pick apart at the lies espoused by liars. I am breaking down your lies, you know it, you are learning more about your inner self from me then you ever have in your life. When is the last time you had to truly self examine your own hatred for your brother (for yourself) and stare that in the face. You are a coward, you follow, that is why you joined the military, because you were told so, and thus you did, to please "your mommy and your daddy".

"Nothing happens to a man but that which is like himself" - Huxley

*Falls off seat in disbelief*

And don't try to psychoanalyze me partner we veterans are a "squirrely" bunch.

Lastly, the only "lies" here is how great pot is and that legalization will solve all mankind's woes. Whereas all other substances are "evil", and pot "good".

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

So you do admit to using caffeine, alcohol and prescription drugs. Thanks. Who doesn't use them? Well, I do not use the paxil I used to be prescribed, nor the ambien, nor the lunesta, nor the trazadone. You want to take a wild guess as to why? Because they suck, do not work without numerous side effects, are addictive and CANNOT BE TAKEN IN THE LONG RUN!! Many of the people backing amendment 64 discovered pot to be A MORE EFFECTIVE AND SAFER, ACTUALLY HEALTHIER ALTERNATIVE TO THIS Ceaseless FILTH.

Pot is a plant, green tea (camellia sinensis) is a plant. Pot contains antioxidants more powerful than vit. E and vit. C COMBINED!!! Pot is an expectorant. Pot is an anti-inflammatory. Pot relieves stress, stress decreases your lifespan. Pot is a mild pain reliever. Pot relieves a headache, does not cause a hangover, and will cure one if you got one, not like an aspirin which takes away a headache while further upsetting your stomach, but by taking away a headache, taking away your nausea, stimulating your appetite and replenishing some of the neurotransmitters tapped out by the ethanol. Pot has been shown to be anti-carcinogenic both in vivo and in vitro.

Pot cured my insomnia that i had chronically suffered from since seventh grade. Tylenol PM is filth. Valarian, passion flower, kava-kava, skullcap, catnip, phenibut, GABA, 5-HTP, Tryptophan and more are not strong enough to have an appreciable effect - I spent my own time, money and patience on all of the above, not to mention the toxic trazadone, ambien and lunesta, and I found what had worked all along. To go back to using this nonsense defines insanity by Einsteins definition.

I do not accept prescription drugs, i do not participate in futility, and although It may seem futile to argue with you, You may not admit it, but you are starting to understand where I am coming from.

You will continue to feel the heavy load you feel until you make right the situation with your brother, Your brother is a human being, he is your brother, think of him tonight as I know you already have.

Sanders20 wrote:The point is that you are too stupid to understand THAT THE LAW NEVER SHOULD HAVE EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Just because idiots make a law DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS RIGHT!! As I just said, you are a follower, you do as you are told, you are a puppet. You were a number and you were proud to be nothing more. Shut up about your brothers decisions, the law should have never existed then, it should not exist now, and low and behold, there is a massive movement to rectify the wrong of the past.

When segregation was a law in the 50's and 60's that was okay, cause it was a law, right fool? When woman had no right to vote, that was okay and should never have been changed? Female genital mutilation is not illegal in many countries, thus it is okay by your ignorant standards. You lack the ability to reason, you do as you are told, again, that is why you blindly followed mommies and daddies advice, went off to fight in a useless war, and in the end you disowned your own DNA, not because he was a murderer, but because he was doing LESS than what a pharmacist does on a daily basis.

You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother.

"Nothing happens to a man than that which is like himself"

Nothing happens to a man than that which is like himself

Nothing happens to a man than that which is like himself

But, you said yourself, "SL10, I could give two sh*** about amendment 64."

So, on one hand you state "THAT THE LAW NEVER SHOULD HAVE EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE".

Contradictory wouldn't you say?!?!

Amendment 64 is meant to rectify an "unjust" law at least on the State level. but you don't as stated "SL10, I could give two sh*** about amendment 64."

I bet your Amendment 64 friends will need surgery to remove their palm from their forehead reading your postings.

Dam, you are making my case even better as we go along here. Keep up with the assumptions here as they are all wrong in every sense of the word.

When segregation was a law in the 50's and 60's that was okay, cause it was a law, right fool? When woman had no right to vote, that was okay and should never have been changed? Female genital mutilation is not illegal in many countries, thus it is okay by your ignorant standards.

It is problematic for ya isn't it to keep repeating yourself you may want to have that checked out.

You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother. You disowned your own brother.

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Sanders20 wrote:So you do admit to using caffeine, alcohol and prescription drugs. Thanks. Who doesn't use them? Well, I do not use the paxil I used to be prescribed, nor the ambien, nor the lunesta, nor the trazadone. You want to take a wild guess as to why? Because they suck, do not work without numerous side effects, are addictive and CANNOT BE TAKEN IN THE LONG RUN!! Many of the people backing amendment 64 discovered pot to be A MORE EFFECTIVE AND SAFER, ACTUALLY HEALTHIER ALTERNATIVE TO THIS Ceaseless FILTH.

Pot is a plant, green tea (camellia sinensis) is a plant. Pot contains antioxidants more powerful than vit. E and vit. C COMBINED!!! Pot is an expectorant. Pot is an anti-inflammatory. Pot relieves stress, stress decreases your lifespan. Pot is a mild pain reliever. Pot relieves a headache, does not cause a hangover, and will cure one if you got one, not like an aspirin which takes away a headache while further upsetting your stomach, but by taking away a headache, taking away your nausea, stimulating your appetite and replenishing some of the neurotransmitters tapped out by the ethanol. Pot has been shown to be anti-carcinogenic both in vivo and in vitro.

Pot cured my insomnia that i had chronically suffered from since seventh grade. Tylenol PM is filth. Valarian, passion flower, kava-kava, skullcap, catnip, phenibut, GABA, 5-HTP, Tryptophan and more are not strong enough to have an appreciable effect - I spent my own time, money and patience on all of the above, not to mention the toxic trazadone, ambien and lunesta, and I found what had worked all along. To go back to using this nonsense defines insanity by Einsteins definition.

I do not accept prescription drugs, i do not participate in futility, and although It may seem futile to argue with you, You may not admit it, but you are starting to understand where I am coming from.

You will continue to feel the heavy load you feel until you make right the situation with your brother, Your brother is a human being, he is your brother, think of him tonight as I know you already have.

No way in hell even on a good day would I be able to understand you.

You are way too complex for me to psychoanalyze.

As far as reconciliation with my brother. Be there done that end result it failed.

Thanks for the thought tho. That is the only kind thing you have stated during the course of this discussion.

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

No one is saying that pot will solve all of mankind's woes, it is just something major that needs to be changed so people (like your brother for instance) are not unfairly treated.

You know, over 60,000 people have died in the last six years at the hands of the Mexican cartels? The DP reported that the cartels now have a presence in major cities in CO, and they are spreading out all over, because we let them. There are over 300 major endemic gangs in the USA that make their number one profit from selling pot, that is their staple. They then buy guns ( I am sure you like guns, right) and shoot people for the stupidest nonsense. Why not cut off some of their monetary supply? I am not really for the legalization of meth, though LEAP is, and unlike me, they have firsthand experience in law enforcement. Read the LEAP site. It was made by former cops, probation officers, judges, DEA agents and so on who finally saw the futility of the drug war.

Pot will not solve all the worlds problems, but in a time of financial crisis when all the mindless scum in office have to present as a solution is more of the past, such as drilling for more oil, which needs to be done, but yet just one little thing. Legalizing pot in all 50 states would be like a modern day gold rush, except all you gotta do is plant a seed one centimeter in the ground, a little safer than a journey to the center of the earth digging up oil. And since you do not like pot, you could just choose to not buy it. Or, you could buy it right now, it is just as easy to buy it legal as illegal, but the money is funneled to different places.

The truth will win out in the end, that much is clear, the day is coming, perhaps not so soon as many would like, but it will be here soon enough, till then, I will merely continue to express myself, and I am getting through to people, I know my question on Drugged Driving is starting to resonate, you had no answer, and sometimes no answer is exactly what reveals the shadowy truth.

"In the end, success is like a stale finale, the struggle was the success"

Sanders20 wrote:No one is saying that pot will solve all of mankind's woes, it is just something major that needs to be changed so people (like your brother for instance) are not unfairly treated.

You know, over 60,000 people have died in the last six years at the hands of the Mexican cartels? The DP reported that the cartels now have a presence in major cities in CO, and they are spreading out all over, because we let them. There are over 300 major endemic gangs in the USA that make their number one profit from selling pot, that is their staple. They then buy guns ( I am sure you like guns, right) and shoot people for the stupidest nonsense. Why not cut off some of their monetary supply? I am not really for the legalization of meth, though LEAP is, and unlike me, they have firsthand experience in law enforcement. Read the LEAP site. It was made by former cops, probation officers, judges, DEA agents and so on who finally saw the futility of the drug war.

Pot will not solve all the worlds problems, but in a time of financial crisis when all the mindless scum in office have to present as a solution is more of the past, such as drilling for more oil, which needs to be done, but yet just one little thing. Legalizing pot in all 50 states would be like a modern day gold rush, except all you gotta do is plant a seed one centimeter in the ground, a little safer than a journey to the center of the earth digging up oil. And since you do not like pot, you could just choose to not buy it. Or, you could buy it right now, it is just as easy to buy it legal as illegal, but the money is funneled to different places.

The truth will win out in the end, that much is clear, the day is coming, perhaps not so soon as many would like, but it will be here soon enough, till then, I will merely continue to express myself, and I am getting through to people, I know my question on Drugged Driving is starting to resonate, you had no answer, and sometimes no answer is exactly what reveals the shadowy truth.

"In the end, success is like a stale finale, the struggle was the success"

Oh, but I have in many postings.

But, it isn't what people want to hear tho.

All the Amendment 64 folks want to hear is "pot is good" everything else is just fabrication. And let's protest with baseball bat sized joints in mouth and break some laws in our protest.

With that said.

This discussion has run its course at least for now.

In 2008, ALL NINE justices of the Supreme Court agreed that Second Amendment rights are not unlimited and that government may regulate guns. Read on it. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Point and counter point between SL10 and Sanders this morning. Quite interesting reading. Thank you both for your input. I guess your votes this fall will cancell each other out so the outcome will be decided by the voters of Colorado. I would like interested parties to research 64 vs 70. After my research, I do not like 64 as it was written mostly by out of state people and parts that allow the DEA and other access is contrary to what I belive we want. The 70 initiative is now gathering signatures. May the 4th be with you!

SL10 wrote:And that right there is what will kill Amendment 64 and we who are the **"uneducated", "immature", "bigots", "low intellect" folks really don't have to do a thing except vote no on 64 in November.

** These very words are from actual Amendment 64 folks on DP who describe people who don't believe in legalizing pot. But, if you vote yes on 64 you are then highly intelligent, witty, not a bigot, and can smoke a joint the size of a baseball bat in Civil Center Park all day.

The reason people call you a bigot is because you post like a bigot. You did it above.