Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Women Ruin Everything: school retreat edition

A father-son bonding session planned by a North Island primary
school was cancelled after a single mother demanded to be included. Two "Band of Brothers" seminars were arranged by Matakana School to
help fathers get more involved in their sons' lives, and as a forum for
dads to share their issues. One session was for dads and another was for
fathers and sons. A solo mum wanted to attend but was told she couldn't because her
presence would inhibit discussion....

The woman's son was welcome at the second seminar and the guest
speaker offered a specific session with her and her son but she
continued to insist on attending, Goosen said, so the school board
decided to cancel the event.

This is why you cannot back down. Ever. You cannot reason with savages or reach an accommodation with them because they simply do not share your values and they do not care about anyone else. So don't try. Not all women are savages of this sort, but every man has to be prepared to deal with female savagery by ignoring when possible and crushing it when necessary.

The school is planning a "more inclusive" event. I'll bet the majority of the fathers who were attending the male-only event don't show.

52 comments:

Captain_Caveman
said...

I would hate to imagine the contempt, nay, hatred, that the child will have of this female (I shall not deign to call her a woman, and mother seems too generous a title). This is likely only one of many events that this female has crapped over, ostracizing the poor kid. I see a roach-motel retirement homein the female's future.

You obviously didn't read the article. The last paragraph is in fact about a mother speaking out against this stupidity. She complains that the system is dominated by women and this is just one step to redress that, and its being crushed by women.

BCYOu have to keep in mind that loud feminists are almost always single ugly women. Married women tend to be extremely different. They like men. They like their sons. They want things that are good for their sons.

But they aren't found ranting on these blogs very much. They are to busy posting sun dresses and recipes on Pinterest. Which is fine. That's what God created Pinterest for.

@Nate,I understand that, but I also understand that most women, including a high plurality of married women, support or at least do not oppose much of what the vocal ones want. Things like VAWA, abortion 'choice', no-fault divorce with advantageous alimony and nearly automatic custody of children including support payments, socialist welfare (especially if it involves children), and so on. I would be surprised if the percentage of women who did not agree with or support at least one or more feminist benefits or oppose the elimination of said current benefits was in even the very low double digits.

" Things like VAWA, abortion 'choice', no-fault divorce with advantageous alimony and nearly automatic custody of children including support payments, socialist welfare (especially if it involves children), and so on."

Dude.

The vast majority of MEN support those things too... if you lower the bar to "supporting one of these items".

I would be surprised if the percentage of men that didn't support at least one of those claims was also in the low double digits.

The reason that happy married mothers don't get vocal about opposing feminist insanity is: they're probably not aware of most of the feminist hissy fits. They're too busy being a mom. And, as Nate said, posting all matters of feminine things to pintrest.

My wife is trying to get involved locally stopping the insane, fearful-woman driven (federal reserve bank-caliber) security policies and some curriculum lunacy at our local school. Boys overwhelmingly bear the burden of "zero tolerance" policies that suspend kids for saying the word "gun" or getting in a shoving match on the playground, or just being rowdy.

My wife has a few allies on the faculty, mostly women with similar-aged sons, but she is up against an enormous wall of stupidity, fearfulness, and rock-ribbed belief in things that simply aren't true. It is amazing to me that in a nice 'burb packed with professionals and two-parent homes, that so many of the women, who dominate the PTA and the school district, would want to (and be allowed) to run things with an insipid, fearful, and destructive iron hand.

To a large extent, the men check out. Are these otherwise high achieving men Deltas and Omegas? Or is this just HerbLife? The few women with common sense get outnumbered badly by what looks to an outside observer to be a pack of crazed lemmings.

And in the end, it's the kids - mostly the boys - who are getting screwed over. We as a country are fucked because we are letting the Female Imperative become the governing philosophy. K.D. MacFarlane today on the radio was talking about how the DoD's response to sexual assault was inadequate, because the Armed Services leadership is mostly middle-aged white males... When you've lost the arch-conservative defense pundit women, you've lost it all.

They are too busy posting sun dresses and recipes on Pinterest. Which is fine.

Unfortunately, that's why the radicals always win, and you get the ratchet effect that keeps making things worse until it all collapses and the traditionalists have to rebuild in the ashes.

In a democracy, the angriest people with the most time on their hands have a built-in advantage over the people with jobs and families and lives. The only way it could work would be to limit the vote to people with an investment in the old order -- a mostly hereditary aristocracy, basically.

This is why so many schools don't have a Watchdog program. Its one of the best programs out there for getting Dads into the schools, but there is always some single mother who can't handle the choices she made, and think that if her kids can't have a Dad involved, then no kids should have a Dad involved.

The fathers should not only stay away from the coed event, they should set up their own event -- independent of the school and on private property with locks on the gates or doors -- and call it a party. If some woman tries to crash the party, the property owner should call the police.

I think there is projection here as well. Since female only events usually include anti-male discourse, they assume a male only event will be similar. So they want it squashed.

I doubt that's what it is. Women just hate to be left out of anything, even if it's something that otherwise wouldn't interest them. Women are group oriented, and any kind of exclusion -- even if it's entirely reasonable (i.e. father-son event) -- is taken as an affront to them, personally. OTOH, they have no problem whatsoever excluding like crazy when it comes to their own groups. Also, I guarantee you this woman is feeling an amount of shame for depriving her son of a father, and is acting inappropriately on it.

The problem here is twofold. First, we no longer expect women to regulate their baser inclinations. There was a time when women's good sense about not disrupting a father-son event would be expected to overcome whatever jealousy they had about being excluded. Second, prior to the 1960s and the total eruption of feminism, it was easier for women to disregard their feelings of jealousy, because: a) if they had children, they were almost certainly married, and could derive happiness from husbands and sons having time alone; they didn't have to compensate for feeling shame that they'd deprived their sons of fathers; b) they could appreciate and even enjoy the distinction between the masculine and the feminine; and c) if there was any inclination to get out of hand, other members of the family would likely bring them back to reality; social pressure on women back then was more positive than it is now.

Women just hate to be left out of anything, even if it's something that otherwise wouldn't interest them. Women are group oriented, and any kind of exclusion -- even if it's entirely reasonable (i.e. father-son event) -- is taken as an affront to them, personally.

This.

Quick story: the wife and I invited her mother to dinner two weekends ago. She declined. So we invited her aunt and cousin to dinner. Later, her mother got mad about not being included.

It is amazing to me that in a nice 'burb packed with professionals and two-parent homes, that so many of the women, who dominate the PTA and the school district, would want to (and be allowed) to run things with an insipid, fearful, and destructive iron hand.

Quick story: the wife and I invited her mother to dinner two weekends ago. She declined. So we invited her aunt and cousin to dinner. Later, her mother got mad about not being included.

Argh. It's crazy-making, isn't it? I had a similar experience a couple of years ago. A male relative and I were getting ready to drive from Western Canada down to Texas, and we were going to fly his wife down to meet us a few days later. She doesn't like road trips, doesn't like staying in motels, and was in not-so-good health at the time. She would have been 1000x more comfortable taking a four-hour flight than a three-day drive. We explained to her the realities of being on the road for 12 hours a day, three days in a row, staying in whatever motels we can find. We even offered to fly her first class, so she would understand it was her comfort we were thinking of. She would have none of it. She thought we were trying to get rid of her so we could have fun all by ourselves, and demanded to come along on the drive. We caved in and let her come with us. By the end of the first day, she was complaining about how awful it was to be stuck in a car all day and staying in motels off the interstate. Dammit, woman, we told you so!!

Women really are like children sometimes. I am never caving in to an unreasonable demand ever again, hissy fits be damned.

This reminds me of a youth group fracas I saw years ago. We had a mixed group out of town staying with a family who took in our relatively small troop. One night the youth minister, male of course, suggested that us guys head out to some restaurant to hang out. All the boys and some of their dads who were on the trip were loaded in the van by the time the enterprising mothers hauled him aside. I still distinctly remember watching him standing on the front porch as not one but two angry mothers upbraided him. Every young man on the trip got to watch that scene without hearing the words exchanged.

The evening's plans were cancelled, no replacement was made, no girls were added, and we sat around in the house that night.

In my experience, if you don't have kids in school? You have no idea how ridiculous it is. I've been out of school for over 30 years and I thought it was insane then, which is why I homeschooled the kiddies, but the crazy has blown off the charts. And not just at the public schools.

Our youngest had D1 potential, his heart was set on it in jr high, and the only avenue was the public sports system. I didn't try to fix it, because you cannot fix it. You can only deal with it and subvert the system as often as possible. Think Gatto. Almost all of them are nuts and it's a complete waste of time to argue with these people.

And lest you think, but I homeschool! It's going to be so different! Yeah, to some degree, but it still rears its ugly head because who is teaching the kiddies and organizing events? The mothers. Are there homeschool mothers who are illogical, control freaks? Why yes, many of them are. Welcome to homeschool co-op.

You're right, most people have no idea. Parents assume the schools are basically the same as they were when they went through them 30 years ago -- maybe a little worse, but not that different. They really have no idea.

Nate: "You have to keep in mind that loud feminists are almost always single ugly women. Married women tend to be extremely different. They like men. They like their sons. They want things that are good for their sons.

But they aren't found ranting on these blogs very much. They are TOO BUSY POSTING sun dresses and recipes on Pinterest. Which is fine. "

Parents need to GET OFF line and stop "posting shit" and start taking proper care of their damn kids!