:You should, unless you deactivate it in the preferences. And you can get email when your watchlist changes, or for some other stuff as well. --[[user:grin|grin]] [[user talk:grin|✎]] 22:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

: "Why did you block this user? He seemed a valuable contributor to me. --[[User:Erik Krause|Erik Krause]] 09:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)"

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And later wrote me:

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: "Ok, I found the reason given on the [http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/tree/browse_frm/thread/79e55b88cca6a9d7/a103d62831ae8a96?rnum=11&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fhugin-ptx%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F79e55b88cca6a9d7%2F93956e633ac77498%3Ftvc%3D1%26#doc_915fc59aa75d5d70 hugin-ptx list]. However, wiki blocks should be transparent to wiki users. --[[User:Erik Krause|Erik Krause]] 10:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)"

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The actual reason is given [http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/a103d62831ae8a96 here]. In a nutshell:

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* The user broke the instructions badly with no value added, causing errors, grievance and confusion to the general public.

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* The user demonstrated lack of understanding for what he is doing at a very basic level (adding an irrelevant switch to a simple mkdir command).

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* Past incidents with the same user following the same pattern show that he does not understand when the solutions to his problems are on his end. Without such understanding the problems can't be fixed and must be limited from influencing the project.

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* His constant finger-pointing in every direction but himself affects the project negatively.

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* And to answer your point: I don't know about all of his contributions. Maybe you can point me in a direction that shows value? Most of what I have seen from him is anything but valuable.

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Now a question to you: how do I make a wiki block "transparent to wiki users"? Isn't the block log transparent enough? How is [[Special:Log/block&user=Yuval&page=&year=2010&month=10|this]] entry any different from [[Special:Log/block&user=Erik+Krause&page=&year=2010&month=10|these]]?

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--[[User:Yuval|Yuval]] 12:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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: "user need to think before breaking further the wiki" is not very meaningful. Someone not familiar with hugin build process probably won't understand your annoyance. The other blocks where spammers which is obvious to anyone who looks at their contributions. I'd prefer something like "details see talk page" pointing to your or his user talk page. Even better would be to discuss the issue on the talk page before actully block someone. Please see [[w:Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Cool-down_blocks]] and the following. --[[User:Erik Krause|Erik Krause]] 13:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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:: Thank you for your feedback. I understand and respect your preference. From my perspective wiki talk pages are as inefficient as web-based forums and I prefer to talk on 1:1 email or many:many mailing lists. One-liner entries in the log should suffice, and I could have been clearer / more succint with something such as "stop breaking the page". Discussions with DrBeams leading to the block were going nowhere. This has been a problem for weeks and months. Based on the reading you pointed me to, I conclude that a cooling-off block was the wrong tool for the situation. I unblocked and won't use blocks for similar situations in the future. I do consider his edits that lead to the block to be disruptive. SHould he disrupt again, I will consider a different anti-disruptive course of action. --[[User:Yuval|Yuval]] 13:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The user broke the instructions badly with no value added, causing errors, grievance and confusion to the general public.

The user demonstrated lack of understanding for what he is doing at a very basic level (adding an irrelevant switch to a simple mkdir command).

Past incidents with the same user following the same pattern show that he does not understand when the solutions to his problems are on his end. Without such understanding the problems can't be fixed and must be limited from influencing the project.

His constant finger-pointing in every direction but himself affects the project negatively.

And to answer your point: I don't know about all of his contributions. Maybe you can point me in a direction that shows value? Most of what I have seen from him is anything but valuable.

Now a question to you: how do I make a wiki block "transparent to wiki users"? Isn't the block log transparent enough? How is this entry any different from these?

"user need to think before breaking further the wiki" is not very meaningful. Someone not familiar with hugin build process probably won't understand your annoyance. The other blocks where spammers which is obvious to anyone who looks at their contributions. I'd prefer something like "details see talk page" pointing to your or his user talk page. Even better would be to discuss the issue on the talk page before actully block someone. Please see w:Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Cool-down_blocks and the following. --Erik Krause 13:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I understand and respect your preference. From my perspective wiki talk pages are as inefficient as web-based forums and I prefer to talk on 1:1 email or many:many mailing lists. One-liner entries in the log should suffice, and I could have been clearer / more succint with something such as "stop breaking the page". Discussions with DrBeams leading to the block were going nowhere. This has been a problem for weeks and months. Based on the reading you pointed me to, I conclude that a cooling-off block was the wrong tool for the situation. I unblocked and won't use blocks for similar situations in the future. I do consider his edits that lead to the block to be disruptive. SHould he disrupt again, I will consider a different anti-disruptive course of action. --Yuval 13:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)