Two seismic events happening in North Korea are suspected to be a nuclear test. The first event was reportedly measured at a 5.6 Richter Scale magnitude. The second event is being reported at 6.3. Both seismic events are potentially related to a nuclear detonation:

SEOUL (Reuters) – An earthquake 5.6 was recorded on Sunday in North Korea near the country’s known nuclear test site Punggye-ri, Yonhap news agency reported, citing South Korea’s meteorological agency.

The quake appeared to have been man-made, Yonhap quoted the agency as saying, suggesting the isolated country had conducted a sixth nuclear test. (read more)

(Via CNBC) KCNA via KNS | Associated Press – North Korea was struck by strong tremors on Sunday, with the South’s officials saying it could be due to a nuclear test.

The USGS initially reported the first tremor as a 5.6 magnitude, but later raised it to 6.3, while China’s earthquake administration said it detected a 6.3 magnitude earthquake in Northeastern North Korea, calling it a “suspected explosion,” Reuters reported.

The depth of the first quake was recorded as zero kilometers, the China earthquake administration said, according to Reuters.

The report cited the USGS as saying the first tremor occurred at around 12 noon North Korea time.

China’s earthquake administration later said it detected a second quake of magnitude 4.6 at a depth of zero kilometers, which it called a “collapse,” Reuters reported, noting the second tremor came eight minutes after the first at nearly identical coordinates.

A South Korean military official told NBC News that the first quake was artificial, while Yonhap reported the military said the first tremor was located near the North’s nuclear test site.

South Korea’s Blue House, the country’s equivalent of the White House, said that the North may conducted another nuclear test, its sixth, the South’s official news agency Yonhap reported.

The South’s President Moon Jae-in has called a National Security Council meeting, while the country’s military raised its alert level, Yonhap reported.

Previous tremors in the reclusive country have been caused by nuclear tests. The wave form signal for an explosion and an earthquake are different, allowing geologists to distinguish a man-made tremor. (read more)

593 Responses to Two Seismic Events In North Korea are a Suspected Nuclear Test – Possibly: One Explosion, One Collapse…

Folks, I’m throwing this IDEA out there..
We WILL NOT face a “Nuke Attack”..
WE WILL face a EMP attack….
N. Korea would light up a EMP Nuke above the Western USA..
Taking out a good part of well,,, EVERYTHING..
No-Way to Mobilize, Communications Down, Power down, internet-computers, even MOST if not ALL our Defense Systems..
As WE are scrambling to Get systems back up, (weeks & months)..
CHINA could invade, (West Coast) with a rather very LARGE Force, very possibly getting as far as the Mississippi, before We could even STOP them..
Think about it…

As a EE, my instincts are this EMP thing is overblown. To be sure, we must have test data from the 60’s, but I as I recall this started as a hypothetical discussion on whether a nuclear device could be created with an enhanced EMP. The real news being reported is that this was an H-bomb meaning a fusion device. My understanding, is this a big step up from the fission bomb. Don’t know how it is being reported as an H-bomb, however.

I’m an EE also and the EMP thing is real. You’d need a legit Faraday cage to protect against its effects. It would do the most damage to the grid. Your car might survive based on any number of factors but chances are it would be screwed as well if it’s made after 1995 or so. But small electronics would likely survive. The larger electronics and associated electrical connections have more “antenna” to pick up the pulse and short out semiconductors, transformers, whatever.

Yes it would, as long as it CONDUCTS ELECTRICTY,..
**Some are as simple as chain-link fences or ice pails. Others use a fine metallic mesh. Regardless of their exact appearance, all Faraday cages take electrostatic charges, or even certain types of electromagnetic radiation, and distribute them around the exterior of the cage.**http://science.howstuffworks.com/faraday-cage.htm

A Faraday cage has to encompass the entire item, There is a limit to the size of the grid that makes up that shell. Microwave ovens let you look in to see your food cooking, the holes are less than half the wavelength of the microwave radiation. If they were larger the energy could leak out. Same thing goes for a Faraday cage. Source: Am an Electrical Engineer.

Thing is, if you don’t know an attack is coming, you won’t be able to throw the thing into the Faraday cage beforehand, if you’re using a garbage pail, etc. We DO need to harden the big stuff, like power stations and key electrical grid parts.

If you have an old Corvette, you’re good to go.. a points type distributor and factory ignition shielding. Just cruise on past the dolts who were fooled with all the electronic bling stuff in newer cars..

Corvettes made when America was Great.. Real All American bling that has a purpose..

If this type of attack were even possible, don’t you think it would have already been used, at some point in time, on some country? Yet, this type of attack has never occurred, anywhere. It makes for good science fiction, but it is a pretense.

No, because it relies on two things ; a country having a nuclear armoury, no matter how (relatively) pitiful and a leader who does not care if his country is wiped out as a consequence. A leader such as the Kim’s, or Pol Pot say, might choose going out in a blaze of glory (his unfortunate citizens, not him),

It is unlikely IMO that China would attack ; it would have all kinds of knock on consequences with other countries.

It’s one of two plausible “we have nukes but they’re rubbish” scenarios. One is an EMP attack, the other a “Dirty” bomb. In a conventional exchange DPRK would be destroyed.

There won’t be an EMP attack because the world leader won’t be able to cause “all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.” (Rev 13:16-17). He needs computers and the internet to institute the infamous global “mark”.

“to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead”
“the number of his name”
Sounds just like using a credit or debit card, doesn’t it? Along with the barcode on the product? Don’t we have enough real things to worry about? Next up, will someone be quoting Nostradamus?
Revelation was written as poetry. Can’t take poetry literally, without having the concepts blow up.

Janice:
1. There is nothing to worry about if you are already redeemed. Except spreading the Good Word about how others can also accept the redemption from death being freely offered.
2. Revelation was not simply written as some dramatic poetry. It is revelation from God about what will happen in the future. Significant lengths of Revelation parallel sections of other prophetic writing, such as Isaiah. There is a lot of prophecy from Isaiah that has already come true. Revelation makes reference to many themes or details through out the rest of the Bible. So, based on all of that, my view is that it is prophetic.

Regarding the Mark.
Rev 13 says: “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

This is amazingly parallel to this: Deuteronomy 11:18: “Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.”

This suggests that there may be some meaning to be gleaned from the Rev comment about head and hand. These two scriptures have to do with keeping mindful of a leader: in one case God, and in the other case the Antichrist.

If you read through Revelation more, you will see some apparent parallels between God, and Biblical events, and what is prophesied – but they are opposite. For example, as there is a holy trinity, Rev has an unholy trinity. One of these characters, in Rev 13, will seemingly be killed but will seemingly be resurrected after three days.

So, one possibility is that in the End Times, many people will gain belief in a supernatural force, but it will be Satanic, not Godly, but will be convincing in a way that God, with His holy trinity, has been convincing to some of us. There is even a holiday where all will exchange gifts – this was written long before Christmas traditions of gift exchange developed.

So, in short, I don’t think Rev is just dramatic, apocalyptic poetry; instead, I think it is fair warning, and reassurance for those of us who have taken the one thing God has given us, our free will, and upon reviewing the situation, have given that life back to God, our self-sacrificial loving father, so we can again live with God eternally in love.

Thank you for taking the time to write that. I am not a Christian. However, I was married to a man who was a Christian Theologian, and wrote a number of learned books about Christian theology. Another way of looking at the book of Revelation, is that it is a warning of what is always happening. Many generations of people have believed that they lived in the end-times, in times of apocalypse and danger. In some ways, they were correct. There is always going to be turmoil and tribulations, and times that try men’s souls. Are we coming up on Ragnarok, or Armageddon? Only God knows that. Likely this is just another time of change. It has happened before, and it will happen again. Each generation thinks that it is some special time that it lives in, and they are right. Each generation has the potential for great good, or great evil, as does each man who has ever lived.

I never said that Revelation was just dramatic, apocalyptic poetry. I said that it cannot be taken literally, because then you lose the real meaning.

TLD gave a great reply to this, but just to reinforce. Revelation is the culmination of all of Scripture. It is Jesus’ revelation to John “to show his servants what must soon take place.” I’m not sure if you were suggesting otherwise, but His words are faithful & true. You can be certain that everything that is prophesied will come to pass exactly as it was foretold. There is very obviously no comparison between Nostradamus & Almighty God.

Certainly we can speculate over what the mark of the beast may or may not be, though a credit card is not something that fits the description of being a mark for the forehead, so that is not likely it. However, this is rather unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The takeaway is that there will be such a mark for all followers of the Antichrist, & they will ultimately be condemned for eternity as a result of their submission to him.

Surely there is nothing more important or real than the matter of salvation. If you are saved, then there is nothing for you to worry about. For anyone who has not accepted Jesus as their Lord & Savior, however, I urge them to heed His words & do so. With each passing day His coming is one step closer.

Thank you for taking the time to write. I am not a Christian. I consider myself as a Person of The Book. As the Christians have associated themselves with The Book, I find their writings to be interesting and instructive. Since we differ so much, regarding the book of Revelation, I will respectfully withdraw from further discussion. I seem to have struck a nerve, which was not my intention. Peace to you.

I don’t plan to be here. The church (saved believers, those who have accepted Christ as their personal savior) (John 3:16) will be taken out in the Rapture. Or as Hal Lindsey would say, “the great snatch.”

Purgatory is referenced in the Bible it’s just called that name. In Matthew 5:26 and Luke 12:59 Christ is condemning sin and speaks of liberation only after expiation. “Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.”

I’m thinking it is implantation of an RFID microchip which will be the mark. There are already reports of people being chipped. I’d say the end times have begun. Of course, GOD’s timeframe is His own and who knows how long it will be when the final battle comes.

July 19, 2006 Insurers Study Implanting RFID Chips in Patients“[…] New Jersey hospital and Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield are recruiting volunteers to have an RFID device implanted under their skin that can be used to monitor medical and family contact information. […]”

“[…]
What you buy at the grocery store, where you live, and even your membership status at the local gym are all subject to a new data collection scheme by the American medical system. Reports indicate that hospitals and doctors’ offices all across the country are now collecting this and other personal information in order to target individuals deemed to have “unhealthy” lifestyle habits that put them at high risk of disease.

Bloomberg reports that hospital systems in both North and South Carolina as well as Pennsylvania have already begun tracking people’s food-purchasing habits by spying on them through public records and credit card transactions. Carolinas HealthCare System (CHS), which operates some 900 care centers throughout the Carolinas, has teamed up with a data-mining company to compile and track this information for the later purpose of calling “high-risk” folks and urging them to make a change.

“What we are looking to find are people before they end up in trouble,” stated Michael Dulin, chief clinical officer for analytics and outcomes at CHS, to Bloomberg. “The idea is to use big data and predictive models to think about population health and drill down to the individual levels to find someone running into trouble that we can reach out to and try to help out.” […]”

Janice, a credit or debit card is detachable. Identity theft is rampant. The mark in the right hand or forehead prevents theft unless one desires to drag along somebody else’s credit-worthy hand or head.

Texian, and this makes sense is right here on our soil. Too many worry about what could/might happen rather than face up to the truth that we have many who want to overthrow our country and take it into communism. Sad to say those that follow this line of thinking and push this garbage will be among the first to be killed off as untrustworthy – meaning if you cannot be loyal to America and its Constitution and fed laws, then you won’t be viable in a new world order. My family knows both socialism and communism, and know what happens under enslavement to either!

they don’t need a blue water navy to invade – just a bunch of pre-positioned shipping containers filled with autonomous solar-powered jihad computer hunter/killer drones. a few million spread around the country and deployed on command would be more decisive than a normandy style landing on san francisco.
world war II already happened, kiddos.
humans are obsolete in global war.

How do you distinguish a nuke attack from an EMP attack? If an ICBM is launched from NK with a trajectory plotted to a US territory, we will not wait for it to detonate to determine our response. A counterattack would be launched immediately and then we will have bigger problems than just an EMP attack on the West Coast. And if China even so much as twitched…well, no one wants that scenario.

You are correct. Thank you.
I tried to comment on that tweet and “like” it and Twitter said it had been deleted. I tried several times. Now, checking again the tweet is still there. Weird. Twitter snafu or deliberate????

Twitter often shadowbans tweets from Conservatives, Trump supporters and Trump himself, so when you click ‘Retweet’ a message will tell you that the tweet no longer exists. You have to go to the person’s profile page to retweet. Every time I get one of those messages, I go directly to their profile and RT from there. I refuse to let Twitter win by suppressing voices with whom they disagree.

By the way, I retweet almost every single one of President Trump’s tweets. A couple of months ago, I noticed that Twitter had taken them all away. Not a single @realDonaldTrump RT showed up on my page anymore. It’s happening to many other people, too. My guess is that Twitter routinely suppresses the number of RT’s and Likes that President Trump receives.

All Deplorables are profiled already in Twitter data banks. There is an ongoing attack by Twitter to offset any conservative voice or message. Either by shadow banning, eliminating followers, or just plain erasure of your profile. Freedom of speech has been censored by the Left long ago. All of these social media sites and other venues are to gather data and identify and profile each of us. That’s the total hypocrisy of all of this BS. Everyone is profiled despite the screaming Left and their facist actions.

You are 100% correct. I have been on Twitter since 2013 and receive notifications of 2-3 new followers on a daily basis. Yet I have been at 1600-1700 followers for over two years! Lets say I receive 2 new followers per day. I should have nearly 3,000 followers, yet I have a little more than half that. I believe that one of Twitter’s main motivations in manipulating RT’s, Likes and followers is to demoralize us. Instead, it motivates us to fight harder against their suppressive tactics.

skiffle, I’ve been at 350 followers for four years. When I make a tweet, perhaps I get a few new followers. Like you, over the course of time you should have many more followers than people unfollowing you. The whole Twitter thing is a profile page. They like what you say, you get followers. Once you are tagged by Twitter inside their internal mechanisms, you can tweet until the cows come home and your message will never get out there. Totally bogus!

There would probably need to be about 3 (earth’s curvature), or so the leading dudes speculate.

Turn your cheap AM radio to its lowest frequency in the afternoon (high altitude thunderheads), load http://www.lightningmaps.org and see which real time lightning strikes you can “hear” on your radio. That will show you the propagation of an EMP to your locale.

Regardless, subs/tactical nuke cruises would annihilate them in very sort time resulting in a large amount of poor quality glass. Not a smart move by the Hobit. An improbable move.

“Faraday” replies: If it makes you feel better do aluminium foil wraps of critical stuff inside of cookie tins, two layers separated by plastic zip lock bags. Preferably grounded by a clean earth ground within a shielded ground (wire within conduit). At best, that will keep you from watching/listening to the fear mongering from the media. Any exposed wire above ground in a branch circuit of a house, regardless, will “probably” act as an antenna for a EMP spike.

Agreed, but there is a huge economic cost to this strategy. I’m not just talking about the stock market, but supply and demand of goods (prices). Many of us want a trade war, but not all of us fully understand what that means. Prices will rise and we could lapse into a recession.

Not just rising prices Eric, but unavailabilty of many goods, some necessary. All one needs to do is go to a store and check labels. Our country cannot meet our own demands. Trump is taking steps to turn it around, but we are nowhere close to being independent, thanks to globalism. So any thinking this is only about the DOW numbers on Wall Street are sadly mistaken. A trade war may be necessary, but it will cause a great deal of pain here at home too. We surely do not possess the same meddle of our Greatest Generation, but may have to be quick studies on sacrificing.

Millions are waiting with baited breath to update their iPhones to the new iPhone 8 for $999. Now, that is madness! Who needs an upgraded phone every year. Americans have been robbed through a fiat currency that no longer has any value other than us believing that a dozen of eggs from a chicken costs 5 or 6 times more now than it did by chickens that were laying eggs in the 1950’s! That’s the real pain, not squeezing China. Personally, the President can send every Chinese citizen from Shanghai and Beijing back to the rice fields if it wasn’t for the American consumer. Our labor unions and their greed along with corrupt politicians passing unfair taxation, offering unfunded pension and medical schemes to sway voters and a whole lot of other things not beneficial for society is the culprit for our current predicaments.

I’ll gladly pay more for “Made in the USA”, and buy a TV like my grandparents did. Every 10 years or until the set blew up. Same with cars, homes, and other non-durables. As far as I phones, make them here and the nuts will still pay $1499 for a new one.

If a x 1 =a then 1 x a =a except when The Federal Reserve and corrupt politicians use inflation as a hidden tax. In that case the new formula is av x 1 = >a whereas v is a variable for inflation which increases the sum greater than a. How’s that in defense of the production & effort of the 1950’s chicken?

You are correct mike. While I like an opptimistic attitude, when it crosses into naivete, it can prove dangerous. Will we adapt, adjust and survive a trade war, most certainly, but it isn’t like a game of red light/green light. One spigot does not simultaneously turn on when a different spigot turns off. There WILL be disruptions in many goods in the interim.

fle….you are so point on! So many stupid shits today talk about nuclear proliferation like its some type of reality show or video game they get to play. There used to be a time when more responsible humans would not want to even think about or talk about any type of nuclear event ever happening again. Only one society was bombed by such force. Back then we were the only ones to have such power….yet, today the world is off its “sanity” axis, tilted towards sensationalism through irresponsible rhetoric and journalism for ratings.

Bannon was right, there is no nuclear option. If a bomb should ever be used anywhere in this world for a second time against humanity, it would be an incalculable event and force us to a return to life so horrible that most people could not even imagine. It’s one thing to deal with the tragedy of Mother Nature over a specific geography, but to irrationally discuss nuclear proliferation in today’s world is pure lunacy! To have the media taunt and goad our President into a showdown with a fat, mental midget puppet of China is sheer madness.

Sundance is right on. The only solution is an economic squeeze that not only hits China, but all the Globalists who have sold out Middle America over the past fifty years. Throw out all these dumb ass trade agreements, negotiated by special interests, lobbied to sell-out publicans that has done our great country Damage. Squeeze the crap out of the UN and either make them be a bastion against oppression or jettison their ass out of our country and bid them adieu! MAGA is about setting the earth’s axis back on a proper tilt. Globalists have the earth spinning in a “wobble”.

Enough! Bring back “Made in USA”, let’s pay more for home made goods and reset the gold valuation of Gold stored by the US Treasury to market price, not some bogus $44/oz. Instant capitalization of hundreds of billions in cash. The President can do this with the stroke of a pen. Our GDP and stored Gold supplies are the weapons of mass destruction. Remove the fiat currency that has used inflation as a tax against all Americans, devised and administered by Elite money grubbers. The World is broke running on fiat money and eventually there won’t be enough money left to steal from hard working Americans to subsidize the grandiose schemes of “takers”. MAGA!

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The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea.
9:14 AM – 3 Sep 2017

The coverage of this event is, for the most part, alarmist bull****. I am especially shocked at those who are apparently knowledgeable technically, who aren’t keeping the discussion fact based. First, stop citing the Josh Caplan yield estimate of 1 megaton. He is either ignorant or a disinformation agent. Second, the last test by North Korea in January of 2016 had a yield of 10 kt and registered a shock of 5.3 on the Richter scale – same as the shock initially reported by the US in this latest test. Third, even CNN is reporting a yield of 100 kt tops, and others 40 or 50 kt. The first US h-bomb test Ivy Mike had a yield of 10 mt!!!!! The yield of Ivy Mike was 700 times the yield of the Hiroshima bomb. The largest test by the US of a non-thermonuclear nuclear weapon was the Ivy King test whose yield was 500 kt. So we’re supposed to assume that North Korea has a hydrogen bomb because it set off a smallish nuclear explosion whose yield is about 4 to 8 times the size of the Hiroshima bomb and well below the yield limit of a non-thermonuclear fission bomb? Can someone explain to me why China would tolerate North Korea having an arsenal of large hydrogen bombs? The most recent estimate of the amount of weapons-grade material the North Koreans possess is enough to make about ten to sixteen weapons. Well guess what – that estimate has to be lessened because North Korea had to use more of their fissile material to make this larger test! We should encourage them to do a test once a week for the next ten to twelve weeks!

Excellent points. This sick media is all about sensationalism. Nuclear war is not an option for humanity in today’s world….AT ALL! Trust me, I’m not a dove. I just don’t have a mountain cove buried 400 ft. below the surface stocked with years worth of food to run too. Common sense tells me as a normal citizen, I should be on the side of no nukes to solve this problem. Sundance is right. Pure economics is the answer.

As SD relayed there is no middle ground in China’s culture…either win or loose. Chinese government is willing to place millions of North Koreans between USA and their economic policy. They’re betting USA’s morality will not respond “with fire & fury”.

One of the most astonishing sights I’ve ever seen is the launch of an ICBM with a dummy payload from Vandenberg air force base. I was 2 states away, and only saw it in the evening sky while I was watering the horses outside. I freaked out. I’ve never seen anything that bright in my life, and it could only be one thing. Luckily it was a test and it was ours. I was glad that I had my food storage, and felt prepared.

Remember, a missile attack by North Korea – anywhere, will feel like an attack to everyone everywhere and there will be panic.