Replying to Alex and Lisa (and Rogol) in one message:
Alex, thank you for linking the 32 page public version of the grant to the
Sloan Foundation. It is indeed an impressive quantity of information, and
I'm glad that this kind of transparency was built into the process --
having written grant

That's a great news!!
Thanks,
Nabin
Wikimedians of Nepal
On Jan 11, 2017 11:33 PM, "Rogol Domedonfors" wrote:
> Rupert,
>
> A Happy New Year to you too. I don't see why my personal motivation for
> asking this question would come into it. The request is to publish the

Rupert,
A Happy New Year to you too. I don't see why my personal motivation for
asking this question would come into it. The request is to publish the
overall product roadmap to the community, for the community to collaborate
with the WMF on planning the future products. That does not sound to

Rogol, a good start into 2017! I have difficulties understanding your
question, especially why you are asking it now. This topic was discussed
quite often and for a long time to justify putting money behind talking at
least imo.
you are unhappy a restricted grant was received without community

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Development
Of any use?
Seddon
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
wrote:
> Dear Wes
>
> Thank you for yet another prompt response. It seems almost churlish to say
> that unfortunately that is

Dear Wes
Thank you for yet another prompt response. It seems almost churlish to say
that unfortunately that is not what I have been asking for -- I must be
very bad at expressing myself to have given so many different people so
many different mistaken impressions of my request. To me a product

Hello Rogol,
Thanks for the question. The Annual Plan we follow and share with the
community for review before we begin our work is available on Meta [1]. We
update specific plans on a quarterly basis on our goals pages [2] as they
may evolve over the year. We also provide a number of links for

Thanks to both Lydia and Denny for these further replies. I assume that
the WMF has a clear stable and unified view of where it is taking its
various products and the dependencies, which is what I understand by the
phrase product roadmap. "A single document" would be nice, but whatever it
is, I

Hi Rogol,
that is why I pointed you to the links in that document, which go all the
way back to 2004 discussions of such a project, and further discussions
over the years. These pretty much establish for me that this item has been
a topic for commons for more than a decade now. But it seems I am

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
wrote:
> Denny
>
> Thank you but the link you provide appears to be to be "Our high-level
> roadmap for developing the project", namely the Structured Data in Commons
> project. Since Lisa wrote "Structured Data on Commons

Denny
Thank you but the link you provide appears to be to be "Our high-level
roadmap for developing the project", namely the Structured Data in Commons
project. Since Lisa wrote "Structured Data on Commons was in our product
roadmap" I was referring to the product roadmap on which the Structured

Lisa
You say that "Structured Data on Commons was in our product roadmap, so
this grant is not diverting our attention. The grant simply enables us to
accelerate the work we were planning to do". Please would you publish, or
point to, a version of that product roadmap that can inform the

Hoi,
You are right that this will be a concern. There are people that insist
that Wikipedia is the fount of all wisdom and that its labels are "correct"
even for Wikidata. When you observe Wikidata for as long as I do, I find
that many of what some people elevate to collective wisdom is faulty at

it was time. Good luck.
Il Martedì 10 Gennaio 2017 4:59, Gnangarra ha scritto:
This is great news and look forward to seeing some good outcomes.
I have a concern around the use of language as most people english a very
dynamic language and what can hav eone meaning

This is great news and look forward to seeing some good outcomes.
I have a concern around the use of language as most people english a very
dynamic language and what can hav eone meaning in one place doesnt
necessarily hold true for everywhere simple uses like monuments when
translated differs.

Thanks Wes and Lisa, this is really wonderful news. Just the sort of area
where Commons can and should point the way forward for all the world's
archives.
And thanks to Sloan for the support and Commonists for maintaining one of
the quiet, consistent wonders of theodern Web.
Sam

Also, to add, for this particular grant I can really only look positively
at the openness surrounding the writing of the grant. There have been
emails on this list inviting input and discussion when the grant proposal
was underway, a lot of content was available on-wiki, and an effort was
made to

Hi Pete and Gerard-
I just wanted to give my thoughts on restricted gifts. Like most things,
there are both good and bad restricted gifts. They can be bad if a funder
is making a well-intentioned gift that none-the-less pulls the organization
in direction that they were not planning to go. Or

Hoi,
Maybe restricted but the subject matter is exactly what we want anyway.
Where I have my reservations is that Wikidata will be set in stone and
stuff that just is not right will be with us for forever. With more money
it does not need to be a huge problem because it makes it more manageable.

Structured data on Commons is a huge and important area -- for one thing,
the whole Media Viewer project would have gone much more smoothly if there
were underlying structured data to rely on. Kudos to WMF and Sloan for the
focus on this issue!
If I'm not mistaken, this is by far the most

This is indeed a great opportunity to develop structured environment in
Commons as well as its allied projects!
Regards,
Tanweer
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andrea Zanni
wrote:
> This is great news.
> Very excited for the future :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Aubrey
>
> On

This is great news.
Very excited for the future :-)
Thanks!
Aubrey
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Wes Moran wrote:
> Hello Wikimedia community,
>
> It’s our delight to inform you that we received a US$3,015,000 grant from
> the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation
>