This would get me half of what I watch on tv. But alas contracts are so spread out among the sports that I watch I will forever be entwined. The only channel I don't get now I wish I got is cbssports. You still need to spend on a decent internet connection so my total would still be around or over $80.

I have AT&T U-verse with a 14 Mbps internet connection bundled with the first cable level that gets BTN. Now that my introductory price is gone, it costs me over $170 a month. Here's what "cutting the cable" using Playstation Vue would cost here in NOLA:

DSL Extreme 18.0 Mbps internet: $42.95

PlayStation Vue Core Slim: $34.95

Netflix or Hulu: $9.99

Total: $89.89 per month for a savings of over $80. I would have to buy an indoor digital antenna for local channels and a "Fire Stick" to get Playstation Vue. Still a bit pricey but saving $80 a month is fine with me.

The only bad part of "cutting the cable" is that USA network doesn't participate in Playstation Vue or Sling TV. If you are a WWE fan, you can't get their programming live. Luckily, Hulu has WWE RAW replays.

Anyway, this is good news. If I didn't need BTN, I could save another $10 by going with Sling TV plus their sports package, but I think the PSVue Core Slim Package is worth the $34.95 a month.

Needless to say, everyone here needs BTN. I'm just grateful that there is now an economical solution that has BTN on it.

Throw in nbcsports and I'm probably a player. Aside from Michigan athletics my other main tv stays is racing. Formula 1 Indy and lemans WEC. WEC is on fox sports mostly but Indy and F1 are nbcsn. Plus all the NHL games they broadcast on nbcsn. It's probably my most watched/recorded channel.

PS3 users get the best of both worlds. Vue and NCAA Football 14. I'm still waiting for the next CFB game to come out before I upgrade. Nothing like playing with Peppers until 2030. Him, Gardner, and Denard are destroying the Shield.

My buddy recently got a PS4 and had no use for his PS3, so he let me take the system and his NCAA 14 Football game off his hands for the price he paid for the NCAA 14 game (around $60). I recently discovered Vue and how Netflix and Amazon are built into the console. Well worth the $60 I paid my buddy to get my hands on this. I cut my cord yesterday because I don't really need a bunch of channels from February - August, but when September comes I need to figure out a more elaborate plan to make sure I get all the channels that broadcast college football.

I'm not sure you have your facts correct. No Mans Sky is coming to Xbox One June 21. While PS4 got the time exclusive on No Mans Sky, Xbox got the timed exclusive on Elite Dangerous. Elite Dangerous has much better realistic graphics.

As for the native resolution. The Xbox is natively 1080. Game Manufacturers scale their games to the resolution of choice. Not all PS4 games are 1080 and the same is true for Xbox One.

Personally it likely will come down to two factors.

1. What do your friends have and play?
2. Does entertainment outside of the game system matter?

Only you can answer 1
If your answer is yes to 2, then the best option is the Xbox One. The featureset for watching tv and experiencing apps can't be touched by the PS4.

I have both, though admittadely I have 2 Xbox One's mainly because of the entertainment features and functionality of the Xbox.

Would you mind elaborating on number 2? You say Xbox One offers better entertainment outside of the gaming system and yet this thread is about a Sony service that seems to rival traditional cable. I'm genuinely interested because I like games but I would also love to cut the cord soon so I'm looking at all options at this point.

Your answer may give me some ammunition to use on my wife. We already have a Roku so convincing her we need a gaming system for "other entertainment" could be a very tough sell.

when it comes to the entertainment side it's going to be hard to outdo a Roku without bringing the games into it as they essentially can do the same functions (other than AAA title games basically). Xbox runs off of the new Windows platform. Essentially any app created for the PC should work on the Xbox. Obviously that doesn't translate well in many situations. That said, the breadth of apps available with xbox will dwarf those for the Roku. If you're just looking to stream netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime etc... the Xbox is an expensive way to do it unless you like being able to talk to your tv and it listen. Looking at the store for Xbox One and seeing what apps are available could help you with your persuading. Add to it the games and you may just win that battle.

Just to be sure this is clear, I agree that #1 is the most important criteria along with "has the exclusive games you want to play most". Xbox has Halo and Gears of War. PlayStation has games like Uncharted, Gran Turismo, and MLB The Show. Those should be the biggest drivers.

But I wanted to address a couple other points...

(1) The PS4 is the technically superior box, and while Xbox will have some games in 1080p, they will have fewer of them overall, with worse performance.

(2) You are saying Xbox is the choiec if "entertainment outside of the game system matters" in a thread where the topic is PS Vue. Thus, the comment is overly simplistic. Obviously PS Vue is a platform exclusive. In terms of other streaming services, the two boxes are on par. Yes, Xbox has HDMI through, but that doesn't necessarily add value to your experience, a lot of people end up disconnecting it. So, it's a simplistic way to think about the choice. It may be that's preferable for you, or maybe PS Vue or other PS features are preferable.

(3) Both machines require subscription services (Plus and Gold) to play online multiplayer games, and PlayStation's is cheaper. Another consideration.

At least in regards to your second and third points, you're missing a few things. For your second point you said that most people end up disconnecting or not using the HDMI through for their cable, but Microsoft is releasing an update this summer/fall that lets you use your Xbox as essentially a normal DVR for watching TV, which I'm pretty sure isn't possible on PS4 and more people would likely use it more often with that functionality. Yes PS does have Vue which is an awesome feature, but the Xbox One was even marketed as a full home entertainment system whereas the PS4 was the more gaming focused console, which plays into it having better rendering head to head for some games like you said in your first point. I don't think there's ever been much of an argument over which has more utility in those two respective areas.

As far as the subscription service prices, quite a few of my family members had PS4 and I have an xbox and I've always paid less than they do on a per month price. I usually get a year of Xbox gold somewhere between $35 and $45 a month and the typical price at Best Buy with no discounts is $60. Playstation is $50 a year at Best Buy, but it's almost impossible to find the same discounts I do for Gold (about once a month I see one vs about 3 or 4 times a year for PS).

At the end of the day, it still comes down to whichever one suits the needs or wants that you're looking for (including what your friends have), but I'm glad PS is getting into the cable replacement game and I'll have to take that into consideration for the next console I buy.

Well, I didn't say "most" end up disconnecting HDMI, I said "a lot" and my evidence is mainly anecdotal. I don't know the overall stats, I just think it's a personal preference thing that doesn't *necessarily* add value to the overall entertainment options for everyone. DVR feature does sound pretty cool. Overall, on utility for "non-game" entertainment, I'd look to the actual features rather than the marketing. I guarantee if MSFT had to do it over again, they'd downplay the entertainment features as a central value proposition for their box until later in the console cycle. That hurt them with their core audience out of the gate.

This is pretty tempting quite honestly - the Elite package would essentially cover the viewing habits of my entire family (especially Animal Planet, now that my wife binge watches "Pit Bulls And Parolees") and I could probably live without the networks for the time being since we end up watching a fair number of shows the day after they air on Hulu or other services.

Mohu Leaf HD amplified (which can hang behind your tv or on the wall or window) is fabulous for a metropolitan area. Cost is about $79.

The Mohu Sky HD Multidirectional (also amplified) works out to about 60 miles if you live in no man's land like I do. It'll work in your attic or on the roof really well. Connect it to your old satellite or cable feed and it'll support your whole house. Cost is about $129 refurbished -$150 new.

Slightly offtrack, but does anyone else have a problem streaming cbs games via their sports app? It was so unstable (note: I have good bandwidth) during the NFL playoffs that I actually thought about going with an antenna (*gasp*) for the Super Bowl.

I don't mind doing it once every 12 months, but every 6 months is a pain. I almost moved to dish just because it was a 3 year price lock. I didn't because I think prices may actually go down in that 3 year period because of new options like this.

Had three TV's with a modest package and they were charging me $175. I called and bitched, they reduced it to $145. I just cut the cord (using OTA Antenna/PS Vue/Netflix), spending $45 a month for all of that. Saving $100 a month and am under no contracts. I couldn't be happier.

I knew it. I JUST KNEW IT that as soon as I got sucked into a dish contract that a streaming service would come along. This has literally everything I wanted when I got dish for $30/mo cheaper. Piss. See you in 18 months...

Hard to beat Sling TV's $20 price tag though. My plan is to get Vue from September to December for football season (BTN here in Oregon would be huge), then move to Sling TV or no TV the rest of the year.