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Bestiality can be consentual... Ever had a dog riding your leg?
Rape... In general it's non-consentual but when a rapist gets caught, he will tend to make it appear consentual. (Yeah, she invited me inside for a cup of coffee, so I got in, ripped her clothes of and had sex with her even though she kept saying 'No'.) "No" means "Yes", right?

Rape and necrophilia can be enacted, though! And you could wonder if a movie where someone has sex with what apparantly seems to be a corpse is committing a crime if this corpse turns out to be a living person who just acted dead. (Or when the corpse was just some rubber doll with plenty of special effects.)

You can also wonder if a cartoon that contains a rape scene or other "illegal images" should be banned or not. Those Japanese 'Manga' movies, for example, display plenty of sex and violence and yet I don't think those cartoons can be banned. Unless you call it indecent images but then you might have to get rid of lots of paintings in museums and wherever else too.

I think that porn has existed for quite a long time anyways. It's just that the invention of the photocamera and the printing press made pornography a lot more common than it used to be. And so far there has never been shown a clear relation between porn and rape/sexual abuse.
There is a reason that we are hearing more often about rape cases, though. People are reporting rape a lot faster these days. Half a century ago, a woman would be too ashamed after being raped and would just kept her mouth shut because it would be a shame for her family. Today we know the woman is not to be blamed if she gets raped. If she said no, the guy should respect that. End of discussion about that. If the guys doesn't listen to that, I think his balls should end up in a small jar, separated from the rest of this rapist.

Still, in many countries women are still ashamed about being raped. Even worse, in some countries women are punished severely if they get raped. Makes them a double victim. (And the rapist often escapes without much harm to him or his balls.) I hate that!

I had a friend who was sexually abused by her father for quite a while. She committed suicide at age 16, though. Her whole life was messed up by what her father did to her. Yet no one ever suspected that her dad was this abusive. He was a very devout man who had a clear opinion against porn. He was also against sex before marriage and disliked homosexuality too. When he got arrested, they searched his house but didn't find any porn. (And he had no computer so no computer porn either.) Yet, while he disliked porn, he just couldn't keep his hands off his 11 year old daughter. As I understood it, she was sexually abused for at least several months before our school noticed something wrong with her. A teacher decided to talk with her and police got in action almost the same day. Afterwards, she was sent from one foster care family to another and I kind of lost all contact with her, until I heard she had committed suicide. I still don't know why she did that, nor do I know if her dad is still in prison...

But it tells me that a sex maniak doesn't need porn to rape. Besides, if I understood correctly, many rapist get their joy from their power. They have control over another person and that seems to be what turns them on. Rape isn't just about sex. It's also about control. It's forcing a woman to say yes when she says no...

But I probably end up there holding some bloodied testicles while some guy with a sudden high voice starts running away from me as fast as possible.

Anyway, I would tell and cooperate as much as possible to get this rapist caught.

I do have fears of being raped, which basically means that I tend to be amongst (female) friends as much as possible. It is sad but as a group we are much stronger than one by one. We protect each other and make sure we don't lose each other when we go out.

However, women aren't the only ones who get raped, mark... So what would you do? You went camping and the next morning you wake up with a sore ass and an empty tube of lubricant next to you. For whatever reason you even taste the lubricant. Bruises and cuts all over your body.

However, women aren't the only ones who get raped, mark... So what would you do? You went camping and the next morning you wake up with a sore ass and an empty tube of lubricant next to you. For whatever reason you even taste the lubricant. Bruises and cuts all over your body.

Originally posted here by NIKLAS? hey,cut it out. i think its good to have this porn law thing.moreover,what are the benefits of porn anyway?it hurts your wallet,it hurts your moral.

WHOA WHOA WHOA.

Do you mean MORAL as in, the morals of ones society? Or MORALE, as in it hurts most males MORALE to watch a John Holmes video, then go use the bathroom and make a comparison?

MORAL...you are opening a serious can 'o worms that would probably be better received and discussed at TalkPhilosophy.org then here.

MORALE...heck yeah. (gore back me up here...) I never watch porn...but if I did, I would have stopped looking at other guys tallywhackers long ago! I don't swing that way, sorry. Nothing wrong with it, just not my thing.

But it is a valid discussion, and for MORAL...you do make a good point. If a 'democratic' society creates laws to uphold its own morals, how do you define those morals, from a large group of individuals with varying taste? What makes Katja's preferences any more or less valid than Marks or Niklas? Or mine? How do you create that benchmark?

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As for the camping questions... dear god you two, how did THAT get started?

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We used to have the occasional post where people had their sticks temporarily removed and actually had a laugh to relieve the boredom this site sometimes suffers from.

Its refreshing to see someone else with a sense of humour who seems to be quickly ascending the ranks.

Some of you old school monkeys should take a leaf from her book and lighten up.

It may be a computer security forum but theres nothing saying we have to be boring about it !.

Anyway. It appears to me that with the exception of HTReGz (Known for his stick) most of the top 10 antipoint earners are able to have a laugh and an off topic thread on occasion to lighten up the mood.

Anyway. With the addition of a thread titled pron did you expect me not to post ?

Ehm, slinky, I have to disappoint you. I myself am not amongst all of those pictures.

Actually, my site is just an experiment in image manipulation through ASP.NET and I needed something interesting. I am planning to divide the images in folders with each their own theme, and most of those images will be decent, non-adult pictures. (Landscapes, buildings, etc.) Actually, if you know a bit about webservices, you might be interested in http://www.katje.org/wallpaper/wallpaper.asmx which is what I am working on right now. A web service that will manage wallpapers that I can retrieve through my own web client. This web client would then be able to alter my current wallpaper in one of those from my site.