This is a discussion on KK on final table within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; I would like to ask an opinion about the following hand.
I was in the 7Starcoins VIP tournament, final table, UTG+2 with KK. and Had around

I was in the 7Starcoins VIP tournament, final table, UTG+2 with KK. and Had around 40BB. The chip leader has 80BB, and I was 3rd in chips. There were 3 shorties (10-15BB). I raise, got reraised by the chip leader went all in and he bust me with QQ. The first place was 400$ and I got 81. I know that this is a clear all in, without any doubts, but how a micro stakes player should react on this situation if I was at the final table of Sunday Storm or Big 11. Should I fold since the 3rd place was almost assured if it was one of this tournament?

#2

17th June 2016, 4:15 PM

dino [2,055]

Online Poker at: Party poker

Game: Holdem NL

it was correct call in my opinion.
The other guy had better luck, but that's all, and so l8t in the tournament you have to push, especially with KK

#3

17th June 2016, 4:43 PM

MattRyder [1,798]

Poker at: Pokerstars

I'm not clear on how many were left at the table. If there were 8 or 9, you still had a long way to go to make it to 3rd or better final position. You may have been in 3rd place at the time, but that can and almost always does change to the negative side if you don't play your monsters on the rare occasion that you get them. The only way first place is within reach is by playing.

#4

17th June 2016, 4:50 PM

akran75 [1,452]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

The first place was 400$ ....
if u fold that KK ,hard you'll see these 400..
bud luck u have,but u must show KK

#5

17th June 2016, 5:06 PM

robertocoelho [307]

Poker at: POKERSTARS

Game: holdem

that has it rains at all, you had bad luck sometimes happens

#6

17th June 2016, 7:40 PM

GuiWah [155]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

The other guy got lucky. It was a correct call, in my opinion!
Maybe, if you had more notes from your opponent, you could expect a AA from him, but this choice is too hard! You did the correct action.

#7

17th June 2016, 7:46 PM

edc1 [482]

Poker at: acr

Game: nlhe

re: Poker & KK on final table

good call-bad outcome-if he had q-q he had a ten percent chance of hitting a queen on the flop-sometimes you can do everything right and still lose

#8

18th June 2016, 9:58 AM

trezvennick [495]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: holdem

Really easy call my friend-if you will not calling allins on FT with KK-you will never be the 1st or some else! You could fold and fold any other hands and and waiting while other players will kick out each other, but those who have only 10-15 blinds in minutes after 1-2 allins can overtake you and if you will sit and folding all cards -blinds will eat you stack! I think so!

#9

18th June 2016, 10:20 AM

Chipsteal_jj [180]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: holdem

How many else were left on the table? How much did you raise and how much was the re raise?

#10

18th June 2016, 10:39 AM

Turn7 [101]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: Holdem

That's a typical action on the final table. I would do the same. At that stage I rarely fold KK. Obviously the one with the Queens had more luck!

Anyway, congratulations!!!

#11

18th June 2016, 10:59 AM

touchmytallalla [135]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: holdem

You are result oriented. In this situations you can never fold KK.

#12

20th June 2016, 8:03 AM

omixxx10 [147]

Online Poker at: acr

Game: holdem nl

was a nice move dont worry

#13

20th June 2016, 8:27 AM

theRaven68 [1,357]

Poker at: available

Game: nl holdem

it was a right action but You had a bad luck

#14

20th June 2016, 1:51 PM

dgospa [1,347]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Holdem

re: Poker & KK on final table

Well it was good play from you in mine opinion! Sometimes you need luck to be on your side! By the way congrats for final tables! Cheers!

#15

20th June 2016, 2:05 PM

jwlaw35 [181]

Poker at: ACR

Game: Holdem and 7

that is just unlucky and in any situation I would say you are stuck all in with the KK.. and of course QQ going to call.. them hands are hard to get away from!

#16

20th June 2016, 2:44 PM

bellybuster7 [68]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

good play, KK preflop only raise and all in

#17

20th June 2016, 2:59 PM

korneel [719]

not really on topic...
But does anybody knows the chance of somebody having AA when you have KK in a 9-player-table?
And does anybody know a good site for those statistic?

#18

20th June 2016, 3:09 PM

redmast [703]

That's right you did, do not worry. Other players are lucky. Poker is not an exact science, that all was according to the law. It directs the mathematics of probability. The next time better luck. If you got the last table, you mean playing well. Good luck for the future.

#19

20th June 2016, 6:57 PM

Fish2014 [389]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: 8 Game

That's a typical action on the final table. ALL IN ALL IN jajajaja KK nice hand in FT

#20

21st June 2016, 5:35 AM

roygor [41]

Online Poker at: Inertops

Game: ALL

My opinion is that you played it the best way, and it is the right way, some hands are bad luck and you cant avoid it. this kind of hand is unlucky because I do not see me or anybody else fold pocket kings pre flop.

GL next time.

#21

22nd June 2016, 7:26 PM

evgenii1788 [12]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

re: Poker & KK on final table

That's right . Just out of luck .

#22

22nd June 2016, 7:39 PM

drcarloshimg [1,367]

Online Poker at: Pokerstar

Game: Holdem

I will go All in, every time.
After that is all up to "luck" or variance as they call it.

#23

22nd June 2016, 7:45 PM

Alatnicar [719]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Holdem

Call!!!!!
One of the best cards,i think you sholud call that.

#24

22nd June 2016, 7:46 PM

dejan85 [697]

bad luck you play well other player juste got on lott
ery......

#25

22nd June 2016, 8:26 PM

Dorugremon [340]

Game: Hold 'Em

Cooler. Oh well...

If you could have seen his hand before you made your decision, would you have done anything different? No? Then it was the right decision, and he just happened to have Lady Luck on his side this time.

#26

23rd June 2016, 6:41 AM

dudu10grande [91]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: Yes.

I do not off my KK FT on this occasion , especially against the chip leader who will pressure the median stack , because of the short stacks , then you made ​​the right move.

#27

23rd June 2016, 3:47 PM

neafana [178]

Guys thanks for the answers.

Actually my real problem was if I were in this situation at the final table in a bigger tournament like sunday storm for example. There were 6 players left. The payout difference between the 6th place and the third place (that I would get it most probably with my stack) would be around 8000-10000 $.

In this 7starcoins tournament for sure is 100%call. I was playing to win of course.))).

But if the payouts were for the 6th place 3000 $ and for the 3rd place 13000$ what would you do with KK???. For a micro stakes player 10.000 $ it's a big amount of money.

#28

23rd June 2016, 9:09 PM

Alex Menchenya [24]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

re: Poker & KK on final table

You did everything right , just has not been canceled in poker luck . People with AA losing a hand.

#29

23rd June 2016, 9:40 PM

garfield89 [388]

Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: holdem

very good

#30

23rd June 2016, 9:59 PM

AlbieTross [856]

Online Poker at: ACR

Game: Hold'em

I would have called in that situation as well.
Sometimes luck just takes its toll.

#31

23rd June 2016, 11:02 PM

paulsmall007 [572]

Poker at: acr, pokerst

Game: Nlh & Omaha

Yea you can't be mad because the other guy got lucky, if the tables were turned would you have folded with queens if the chip leader shoved and been mad if you busted to his kings. Either hand is a clear aggressive push

#32

24th June 2016, 12:36 AM

Everybodylovesdeuces [146]

Online Poker at: Nitrogen

Game: All

While I think you can almost never fold KK in a heads up (2 people in the pot) situation, I would be interested to know the betting amounts and what type of player your opponent is.

Rest assured it's just a cooler. If you're folding KK here, you are WAY too exploitable.

#33

24th June 2016, 8:10 AM

neafana [178]

Yeah I would never folded KK in this spot. Also my opponent was the chip leader so he was pretty aggressive and I was putting him on AK, TT-QQ. I was sure that I was better than him and I'm not upset that I called. I was playing perfect. But I would have doubts if the pay difference between 6th place and 3rd place was 8000$). Having a few hundred dollars bankroll, it's a big difference to take in 6th place 3000$ and in 3rd 11000$ (If for example I was on sunday storm final table).

#34

24th June 2016, 8:48 AM

Brandlad [373]

Online Poker at: 888poker.com

The strategy I follow in final 9 is, I just follow pyramid style to play I.e. I just ignore pairs or uses very small bets as pairs r at the end of the pyramid. I mostly play very tight at this point when 9 players left. When players remain 5 or less I play semi aggressive and in final 3 mind play and aggressiveness is the key. When players are few the Variance rules the table. In practice I never touch pairs in final 9, whether it is AA or 22. It does not matter.

#35

24th June 2016, 9:00 AM

tcdukesdood [58]

Poker at: acr

Game: holdem

re: Poker & KK on final table

Yeah even with AA and theres more than 3 people going all in, theres a good chance you will lose, lose to trips or anything