"I invite everyone interested to join the Utnubu Team. Utnubu stands for
doing what Ubuntu does, just the other way around: We want to take the
things Ubuntu does and that are missing in Debian, and - where
appliciable - put them in Debian."

given the shoddy state of Debian Unusable err unstable porting Ubuntu packages might not be a bad idea, at least they have their act together and hoary is *USEABLE* .

Amusing the total lack of coverage about the Debian Uneable gcc 4.0 migration and how it borks everything from installing packages like gaim to running programs like kopete and saving files from web browsers.

The migration to 4.0 and x.org is needed, but the cost is just way too high. I'm tempted myself to just switch to Ubuntu at this point and leave the egos known as Debian developers to have solitude party with their attitude of "don;t expect unstable to work"

It'll be interesting to see if any negative press here is reported with the recent debian changes. horrah linux takes a giant step back into the stone age