Bam! May have not been collusion, but there was certainly cooperation, at least.
But then you'd need a lot of communication between the two to coordinate like it'ss being suggesting. Very high level people obvious had to know about this to cancel and redirect ad money.

I agree 100% w/the bolded part. I don’t believe that Putin was coordinating anything with Trump. Putin was doing what he wanted. And I do believe Trump “puked on” by talking (or attempting) to take advantage of what Trump was doing.

I still don’t think Putin gives a rats ass about Trump. He was after Clinton and disrupting our election. And he was going to do that no matter who opposed Trump. If Trump joins in or “cooperates” great. If not Putin was still going to do what he wanted.

That’s why I don’t thing collision totally fits. It doesn’t make Trump any less guilty. Besides this entire “collusion” is Trump talking. The directive to Mueller didn’t even include the word “collusion”.

A bipartisan group of senators is expected to slam former President Barack Obama's administration for its response to Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting an investigation into Russia's election meddling, has already criticized the Department of Homeland Security for its "inadequate" response to the hacking effort.

But an upcoming report to be released by September is expected to be more critical of Obama than the committee's past statements, according to a source familiar with the committee's work.

A bipartisan group of senators is expected to slam former President Barack Obama's administration for its response to Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting an investigation into Russia's election meddling, has already criticized the Department of Homeland Security for its "inadequate" response to the hacking effort.

But an upcoming report to be released by September is expected to be more critical of Obama than the committee's past statements, according to a source familiar with the committee's work.

Well at least you're accepting the fact that Russia did indeed help your boy win. Yes, in hindsight I REALLY wish Obama had done more during the '16 election. Instead, we get the current shit-show we're in.

That's what Democrats get for always trying to do the right thing I guess.

After McConnell denied Judge Garland from getting a hearing or a senate vote, I don't understand why President Obama didn't tell him to go screw himself and tell everyone about Russia's interference with American elections.

That's what Democrats get for always trying to do the right thing I guess.

Unfortunately, it’s looking like they should’ve just risked looking like election tamperers themselves, because now we’ve actually got Americans who don’t seem to care about the foreign meddling itself.

After McConnell denied Judge Garland from getting a hearing or a senate vote, I don't understand why President Obama didn't tell him to go screw himself and tell everyone about Russia's interference with American elections.

Probably because Obama isn't Trump. There used to be things Presidents just didn't do. Ah, good times.

Nov. 2, 2015: Bannon interviews Trump for a Breitbart radio show. In the interview, Bannon says he is concerned that many CEOs in Silicon Valley are from Asia. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society,” he says.

Dec. 1: Bannon interviews Trump again for Breitbart News Daily.

Feb. 18, 2016: Bannon interviews Trump for a third time.

May 11: Bannon holds a private screening of “Clinton Cash,” a documentary he helped make aimed at persuading liberals that the Democratic presidential nominee has shady financial connections.

June 13: Bannon interviews Trump for a fourth time.

Aug. 17: Bannon is named “chief executive” of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, an unusual title for a national campaign. Paul Manafort remains as campaign manager, but two days later resigns the post.

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara

People actually believe this shit?

To be fair to Sean, a whole lot of other people chimed in after that post, similarly mocking and deriding Mensch.

And while there is no explicit accusation or indictment dropped on Bannon at this time, do people understand now how Mensch could have had a legitimate, plugged in source who did relay that bit of scuttlebutt to her?

I agree 100% w/the bolded part. I don’t believe that Putin was coordinating anything with Trump. Putin was doing what he wanted. And I do believe Trump “puked on” by talking (or attempting) to take advantage of what Trump was doing.

I still don’t think Putin gives a rats ass about Trump. He was after Clinton and disrupting our election. And he was going to do that no matter who opposed Trump. If Trump joins in or “cooperates” great. If not Putin was still going to do what he wanted.

That’s why I don’t thing collision totally fits. It doesn’t make Trump any less guilty. Besides this entire “collusion” is Trump talking. The directive to Mueller didn’t even include the word “collusion”.

Well at least you're accepting the fact that Russia did indeed help your boy win. Yes, in hindsight I REALLY wish Obama had done more during the '16 election. Instead, we get the current shit-show we're in.

Outlets like Breitbart, Drudge, Fox News, etc. were scaring up their base by claiming that Obama was going to suspend the 2016 election and continue on as president. Just like the claim that "Obama is going to take your guns" (absent any evidence to support that), people believed it.

If Obama had done anything that gave even the slightest whiff of doing something that could be twisted into "proof" of him remaining in office, there could very well have been violence.

I think that Obama handled it properly. (The FBI and Comey, on the other hand...)

I think it would be helpful if every time the right points to Obama's response, that it be pointed out Obama's actions actually helped Trump. The FBI's actions in 2016 regarding Hillary's emails, (and suppressing the info that they were aware of Russia's meddling) helped Trump.

History is not going to look kindly on Trump or anyone associated with him including his supporters. Years from now, historians & cultural anthropologists will unearth this thread and read mspmms's posts and just shake their heads.

A bipartisan group of senators is expected to slam former President Barack Obama's administration for its response to Russian election interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting an investigation into Russia's election meddling, has already criticized the Department of Homeland Security for its "inadequate" response to the hacking effort.

But an upcoming report to be released by September is expected to be more critical of Obama than the committee's past statements, according to a source familiar with the committee's work.

There was nom “right way to handle”. We were caught flat footed. And have done nothing to prepare when it happens again.

Outlets like Breitbart, Drudge, Fox News, etc. were scaring up their base by claiming that Obama was going to suspend the 2016 election and continue on as president. Just like the claim that "Obama is going to take your guns" (absent any evidence to support that), people believed it.

This was absolutely going around among some right-wing loonies. I don't think Breitbart or Fox News proper picked up on them, although I'd imagine this silly conspiracy theory was a fixture in their comments. It was definitely on InfoWars.

Here is the intent: If Obama’s scheme makes it through, there will be no further Presidential elections. This has been planned for a long, long time. One thing about the Communists, they are very patient as they quietly work toward the completion of a definitive goal ahead.

I've found references to other pages/sites that aren't working anymore, like Morning News USA:

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Speculations have been running wild as people are saying President Barack Obama would implement martial law to suspend elections . . . . Secret meetings have allegedly been conducted by international political elites to stop Donald Trump’s presidential campaign . . .

This was absolutely going around among some right-wing loonies. I don't think Breitbart or Fox News proper picked up on them, although I'd imagine this silly conspiracy theory was a fixture in their comments. It was definitely on InfoWars.

Okay, so we agree that sracer made this up, and you have to link to sites I've never heard of, other than Dilbert.

No, we don't, and no, he didn't. It was definitely making the rounds, and I saw stuff like this from several relatives on Facebook, although I'd attribute it more to the crackpot right wing underground rather than a more prominent voice like Breitbart or Fox News. Many small voices can make a ruckus, even if they're not as booming as one loud voice would be.

Fox News did talk about this at least once on-air, but they presented it as someone else's argument -- Ben Carson said it -- rather than their own, at least in the example I could find.

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Here is the intent: If Obama’s scheme makes it through, there will be no further Presidential elections. This has been planned for a long, long time. One thing about the Communists, they are very patient as they quietly work toward the completion of a definitive goal ahead.

now with that in mind, imagine if Obama had said this and not Trump:

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(on Xi Jinping) “He’s now president for life. President for life. And he’s great,” “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day,” Trump added