freak7:1. Shellie claimed that George punched her father in the face and that he had a "mark" and that it looked like his nose was broken. The police found no indication that the father had been struck. The father also declined in pressing charges for this phantom assault.

2. Shellie was on the phone with 911 when the police arrived on scene. She told the operator that the police were there and that George was in his car. The police say that George was standing on the lawn when they arrived.

3. Shellie claimed in the 911 call that George had his hand on his gun and was patting it, daring her to come closer. No gun was found on George. She then changed her story to say that she never saw a gun.

Somebody is going to jail, and it isn't George. Lying to 911 when on probation for lying to a judge is pretty farking stupid.

freak7: Somebody is going to jail, and it isn't George. Lying to 911 when on probation for lying to a judge is pretty farking stupid.

I happen to know, based on thousands of Zimmerman threads, that 911 is not only no authority but it is perfectly legal to ignore them outright. I can then feel secure in knowing that lying to them means nothing.

Typical thug. He's lucky Zimmerman didn't protect himself. Father in law probably has pictures on Facebook doing gang signs and I BET he smoked weed sometime in his past.

I bet it was the weed that caused all of this. Who cares about some unarmed kid getting shot if there is some chance of the weed. You hit it on the head and all these dopes should be shotgunned straight to the joint.

Typical thug. He's lucky Zimmerman didn't protect himself. Father in law probably has pictures on Facebook doing gang signs and I BET he smoked weed sometime in his past.

I bet it was the weed that caused all of this. Who cares about some unarmed kid getting shot if there is some chance of the weed. You hit it on the head and all these dopes should be shotgunned straight to the joint.

skylbdown: Oh yeah, the dude who is was found not guilty is actually guilty according to Fark. Sorry, I forgot about the change to our jurisprudence laws.

No, the dude who was found not guilty was found not guilty by a jury largely due to a lack of evidence to support an alternate theory of the events. And, do recall, it wasn't a "given" verdict at the outset, either.

Our "jurisprudence laws" have been written to ensure the idea that it is better for one guilty person to walk than to jail one who is innocent.

I am okay with this concept - it does not mean I have to change my adult mind that Mr Zimmerman bears some culpability for his actions - and that he seems not to have gotten that message.

freak7:gimmegimme: Just out of curiosity, do you think it's normal for someone to be arrested as many times as Zimmerman has been?

He was arrested recently?

Zimmerman has been caught up in the system a hell of a lot more than Martin was.

Aren't you sick of paying for all of the police to deal with his multiple domestic violence incidents? The doctor bills for the cop he assaulted? Fiscal conservatives have to point out what a waste this guy has been.

MFAWG:No, I just think you should be able to walk down the street without worrying about some guy chasing you and shooting you.

That's all I want, really.

[Location: Seattle ]

Do the daily murders between people, often black, in the poorer regions of the US offend you that much? Or is there just not enough of an emotional investment since you can't feel empowered by taking The Man down a few pegs?

Which dangerous area do you live in, anyway?Location: Seattle

Oh, one of those people. Don't worry, I respect your crusade of anti-racism from your white neighborhood with the occasional Asian.

gimmegimme:Aren't you sick of paying for all of the police to deal with his multiple domestic violence incidents? The doctor bills for the cop he assaulted?

What domestic violence incidents? Oh, you must be talking about his ex-fiance claiming domestic violence in a request for a restraining order. Convenient that you leave out that George also requested a restraining order, that both were granted, and George was never actually charged with domestic violence.

You know, I was willing to give the guy a benefit of the doubt on shooting (trayvon HAD pinned the guy, after all) - but this reaks of either letting the publicity go to the guy's ego (Ala, susan boyle) or actually being a nutter. OTOH, divorce is a pretty messy thing for most people, and not exactly a calm one usually.

God-is-a-Taco:MFAWG:No, I just think you should be able to walk down the street without worrying about some guy chasing you and shooting you.

That's all I want, really.

[Location: Seattle ]

Do the daily murders between people, often black, in the poorer regions of the US offend you that much? Or is there just not enough of an emotional investment since you can't feel empowered by taking The Man down a few pegs?

Which dangerous area do you live in, anyway?Location: Seattle

Oh, one of those people. Don't worry, I respect your crusade of anti-racism from your white neighborhood with the occasional Asian.

What part of "people should be able to walk safely" somehow implied to you a double standard?

freak7:1. Shellie claimed that George punched her father in the face and that he had a "mark" and that it looked like his nose was broken. The police found no indication that the father had been struck. The father also declined in pressing charges for this phantom assault.

2. Shellie was on the phone with 911 when the police arrived on scene. She told the operator that the police were there and that George was in his car. The police say that George was standing on the lawn when they arrived.

3. Shellie claimed in the 911 call that George had his hand on his gun and was patting it, daring her to come closer. No gun was found on George. She then changed her story to say that she never saw a gun.

Somebody is going to jail, and it isn't George. Lying to 911 when on probation for lying to a judge is pretty farking stupid.