Michigan defensive end Chase Winovich hates every team the Wolverines play, but there’s a special place in his heart for rivals Michigan State and Ohio State.

Winovich, who leads the Wolverines with 10.5 tackles for loss and three sacks, appeared Wednesday morning on the "Jamie and Stoney” show on 97.1 The Ticket and was asked which of the rivals he despises more.

The interview also touched on Saturday’s opponent, Wisconsin, the feel of this season for the Wolverines and the expectations of the Michigan defense.

“I don’t like each one in different ways,” Winovich said on the show. “Ohio State, I think we might have a better relationship with their players in the sense like where it’s strictly, I’m going to say, ideologies. It’s like Ohio State versus Michigan, it’s such a huge game.

“Whereas Michigan State, I think there’s actual animosity between players. I think that’s the biggest difference, but I hate both of them. I want to beat both of them and I don’t distinguish my – I hate everybody I play. It’s not just them. I want to beat everybody we play and after the game, as long as we win, it’s all love.”

Here are some highlights from Winovich’s appearance on the show:

Why will this year end differently?

“It’s pretty obvious there’s something different about this team than some previous teams I’ve been a part of. The offensive line has stepped up, which has enabled (quarterback) Shea Patterson to emerge. He’s my roommate and he’s a great guy and even better football player. When he said he was thinking about coming here, it was enough for me to say, ‘Let’s do this.’ I bought it into it and clearly I think he’s putting us in a position where no matter who’s on our schedule this year, I think we’ll have at least a chance to put up some points and win the games.”

On whether the expectations are too high for the defense (currently ranked No. 1 nationally):

“Maybe the expectations change. I remember when I was in high school, Clint Hurdle, manager for the Pirates, he came in and spoke to us because I’m from Pittsburgh, and he said how the Pirates hadn’t had a winning season. For 20 years it was a drought, basically. He comes in and gets a couple winning seasons, and now all of a sudden, the fans are upset because they’re not winning enough, they’re not going far enough in the playoffs. So he changed those expectations. They shift. That’s the way it is with Michigan football. I think with Michigan defenses, we’re constantly raising our level of play, and people can see on the field where we’re at our best. So basically, if we’re not performing at that level, then something’s wrong. You want to be the best, and anything less than that, we’re the first people to recognize that something needs to be fixed and we need to address those issues.”

How much does facing Wisconsin’s highly-respected offensive line motivate him?

“It definitely does motivate me. I heard the same thing last year (about the Badgers). I heard the same thing about Ohio State. I personally love the smoke. I hope they run to my side every single time. That’s the first thing I told coach (Maryland coach Matt) Canada after the game. I charted the plays, they ran to my side once, excluding jet sweeps. That’s the first I said to coach Canada, I said, ‘I wish you would have ran to my side more.’ I embrace that. For me, I’ve always been that chip-on-the-shoulder guy. I hope they (the Badgers) see some kinks in my game and bring it all to my side, and we can test how great they are. I see it on film, they have been a dominant force in Big Ten football. We’re looking forward to putting that to the test.”

On his long hair:

“My long hair goes back to my time, I was playing tight end at the time. Whenever I made the switch to defensive end, it wasn’t long at that point, but it was starting to get there. At that point I made the transition and my life took this mental shift. I made this conscious decision where, ‘Enough is enough. I’m going to will this thing to work. I’m going to find a position on the field and make a name for myself.’ My hair was kind of part of that journey in my mind from playing tight end to defensive end.”