Gyrfalcon:So she was just an ORDINARY crazy drunk with a baby in the car trying to smash her way through the White House gate and running from cops ordering her to stop? That means we can still feel sorry for her and excoriate the cops for their overreach, and not praise them for taking down a crazed gunman/terrorist trying to kill the President?

Yes, anyone who desecrates the sacred sod in the vicinity of His Wonderfulness and then flees at a high rate of speed, then stopped miles away when surrounded by police, may not TECHNICALLY pose a threat to His Magificence's person, but she has offended His dignity, and for that her life is forfeit.

Phinn:Gyrfalcon: So she was just an ORDINARY crazy drunk with a baby in the car trying to smash her way through the White House gate and running from cops ordering her to stop? That means we can still feel sorry for her and excoriate the cops for their overreach, and not praise them for taking down a crazed gunman/terrorist trying to kill the President?

Yes, anyone who desecrates the sacred sod in the vicinity of His Wonderfulness and then flees at a high rate of speed, then stopped miles away when surrounded by police, may not TECHNICALLY pose a threat to His Magificence's person, but she has offended His dignity, and for that her life is forfeit.

ZoeNekros:I can't help but wonder if she just got distracted, bumped into the barricade, then panicked and drove off as armed men began to swarm... with disastrous consequences.

But yes, far too few details at this point to know.

Did you see the video? She wasn't distracted or panicking. All she needed to do was stop. She was running at the barricades and trying to either flee or run someone down.

As to her motive, who knows; (we'll never know now) but this wasn't a case of mad-dog cops run amok. Also, she ended up at the White House, and there's no way the Secret Service, in this day & age and with this President, is going to do anything but shoot first and nevermind asking questions. Whether you're a drunken fool going the wrong way or a crazed gunman, if you run the gate at the White House, you may as well figure you WILL die at that point.

Gyrfalcon:ZoeNekros: I can't help but wonder if she just got distracted, bumped into the barricade, then panicked and drove off as armed men began to swarm... with disastrous consequences.

But yes, far too few details at this point to know.

Did you see the video? She wasn't distracted or panicking. All she needed to do was stop. She was running at the barricades and trying to either flee or run someone down.

As to her motive, who knows; (we'll never know now) but this wasn't a case of mad-dog cops run amok. Also, she ended up at the White House, and there's no way the Secret Service, in this day & age and with this President, is going to do anything but shoot first and nevermind asking questions. Whether you're a drunken fool going the wrong way or a crazed gunman, if you run the gate at the White House, you may as well figure you WILL die at that point.

Between the cop injuring himself by driving into a stationary object, the multiple cops firing at a threat ineffectively, and the group of cops killing the suspect after she had left her vehicle, this sounds like some top-notch police work.

Monkeyfark Ridiculous:Between the cop injuring himself by driving into a stationary object, the multiple cops firing at a threat ineffectively, and the group of cops killing the suspect after she had left her vehicle, this sounds like some top-notch police work.

/at least they managed, by pure luck, not to shoot the child

Well, at least not kill the kid, the kid was injured apparently, by what we don't know.

Monkeyfark Ridiculous:Between the cop injuring himself by driving into a stationary object, the multiple cops firing at a threat ineffectively, and the group of cops killing the suspect after she had left her vehicle, this sounds like some top-notch police work.

jaytkay:ZoeNekros: I can't help but wonder if she just got distracted, bumped into the barricade, then panicked and drove off

In the video, it looks like she's driving way to much for simple panic. They had her stopped, she took off and drove in circles as they boxed her in with barricades and cop cars.

With a kid in the car, if it was an accident, I would imagine at the most she would drive away from the guys with guns, stop and get out with her hands up or holding the baby.

Saw the video of her circling something. Then three cops circling the same thing behind her. Honestly, my first thought was Keystone Cops. Sorry, but why they need to chase each other when the video clearly shows every law enforcement agency in DC responding from every direction is a mystery.

BMFPitt:jaytkay: Officers confirmed that a 1-year-old baby was taken from the car and is now in good condition.David Loewenberg, who witnessed the incident, said he saw an officer "hugging a child and taking that child away."

So I forget how it works. Does that make the kid grow up to be a super hero or a super villain?

The kid is the mastermind. All part of a plan to get him into the police station.

If you're ever in doubt that there are horrible people willing to push their political agenda at the mere whiff of a tragedy just read the beginning of this thread. Wow.

THIS!Amazing the jump to MASS SHOOTING and How do you feel about background checks now?Farkers are too predictableAnother reason we need to look at the mental illness issues and not the the bandwagon band-aids to get votes

itsaidwhat:Saw the video of her circling something. Then three cops circling the same thing behind her. Honestly, my first thought was Keystone Cops. Sorry, but why they need to chase each other when the video clearly shows every law enforcement agency in DC responding from every direction is a mystery.

jaytkay:BMFPitt: jaytkay: Officers confirmed that a 1-year-old baby was taken from the car and is now in good condition.David Loewenberg, who witnessed the incident, said he saw an officer "hugging a child and taking that child away."

So I forget how it works. Does that make the kid grow up to be a super hero or a super villain?

The kid is the mastermind. All part of a plan to get him into the police station.

monkeyslobber:Beer cap: This is a very strange one. She was an attractive woman with a small child and a good career. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear this had something to do with Obamacare or the shutdown.

I'm going with she was just trying to introduce Obama to his love child. Obama baby momma drama...

Uh oh! Be prepared to be attacked by the Fark Secret Service Obama Defense Squad.