People like yourself should just admit they are advocating genocide. You'll sacrifice a couple billion human beings and consider it the ends that justify the means for your green utopian religion. Stop being a fanatic and realize that we could save plenty of costs by your insane reasoning if we just plugged them with bullets and killed them instead of treating them as well. Only we won't do that because that would be genocide. Likewise we don't just turn off oil and turn on something else that has a magitude of order lower ability to deliver or store energy because we don't want people dead. Since you continue to advocate for it, clearly you do want them dead.

We won't give up energy solutions that keep them alive even if minute percentages of them suffer some trade-offs that may or may not be associated the actual use of said products, but may actually just be the numbers running on an entire population that can afford diagnose, treat, discover and deal with an entire population living longer and better.

We can see the number of dead going up with the cost of heating oil in the winter or the lack of air conditioning in the summer. Prove that you can hand them the alternatives and not increase the death rate. It can't be done so what you advocate is genocide.

Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

"Bizarre changes in precipitation patterns are now being observed in many regions throughout the world. Last month, British scientists working near the North Pole were astonished by an unprecedented April rainfall. David Phillips, a senior climatologist in Canada, described the event as bizarre, adding, This is up there among fish falling from the sky or Niagara Falls running dry."
~ http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...shore?page=0,1

"Islam is as dangerous in a man as rabies in a dog"~ Sir Winston Churchill. We are nurturing a nightmare that will haunt our children, and kill theirs.

But Bill McKibben has found a planet where such books sell well. It is a world where environmental news goes from bad to worse, a place where ice caps vanish, crops fail, oceans acidify, activists rally and an oil company makes more money in three years than any company in the history of money. The place McKibben has discovered is an unpronounceable land called Eaarth. Where is Eaarth, you may ask? Unfortunately, youre soaking in it.

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Earth with one a, according to Mc Kibben, no longer exists. We have carbonized it out of existence. Two-a Eaarth is now our home. On two-a Eaarth, we are way past the bearable threshold 350 parts per million for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere, and well down the road to a devastating 650 parts per million.

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we have come to resemble the guy who ate steak for dinner every night and let his cholesterol top 300 and had the heart attack, as McKibben puts it. Now he dines on Lipitor and walks the treadmill, but half his heart is dead tissue. How we proceed with a half-dead heart is McKibbens primary concern, one that keeps even the morbidly pessimistic reader turning the pages, looking for his own not-too-hot cubbyhole on the superheated planet.

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Unlike many writers on environmental cataclysm, McKibben is actually a writer, and a very good one at that. He is smart enough to know that the reader needs a dark chuckle of a bone thrown at him now and then to keep plowing through the bad news.

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But many of these proposed solutions inadvertently resemble the list of things Christian Lander lampooned in his 2008 best seller Stuff White People Like: farmers markets, awareness, making you feel bad about not going outside, vegan/vegetarianism. Its not that these things arent important. But in the absence of some overarching authority, a kind of ecologically minded Lenin, they will remain hipster lifestyle choices rather than global game changers. Which I suppose in the end is part of McKibbens point. Eaarth itself will be that ecological Lenin, a harsh environmental dictator that will force us to bend to new rules.