I dislike Rousey very much, but what's the actual harm in having her here? The character doesn't even look like her. Was it just mocap/voice?
Some reactions in here are funny, I guess that's why "gamers" get the "whiny/entitled" rep.

Calling a spade a spade. If they were young boys of the same age that were local scallies/neds/chavs in the UK, people would be saying they got what they deserved. Everyone complaining that the guy will get a pass for being a white male but it feels like these are being given a pass for being female
Admittedly, I’d not seen the point above before about how the guy started it. That changes things slightly. Either way - I’m not excusing the guys behaviour at all. Just saying - if they were my kids I’d be ashamed of the way they’re behaving

We'll agree to disagree... There's a huge difference between fighting a man(trans) and using pr to act like she'd be willing to fight a man... One of which would never ever take that fight. I can say I'll beat mike tysons ass... Right up until mike says let's fight. Lol
As there been any trans fights vs any women?

But at the same time, we shouldn't just assume it takes away most of their advantages because a couple studies suggest it. Just like we shouldnt assume they still have most their advantages cause other studies suggest it. The science just isnt there yet, and latching onto an article to support whatever your opinion is on this issue is just arguing in bad faith in my opinion. Its strange seeing people saying the science is decided, hormone therapy takes away most advantages, and anyone who says something else is banned.

EtcetEraThreadMichelle Obama most admired woman in 2018, followed by Oprah, Hillary and Melanie Trump at #4

ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Inappropriate commentary and antagonizing other members

I honestly don't get this place at times. If anything my comment is a compliment to Michelle that she looks as good as she does at her age.
Probably the correct way to say it was 'this is one beautiful woman' so don't step on toes but i couldn't give a shit really. Nothing about my comment was offensive in the slightest. Some people need their heads examined if that was an offensive thing to say. If they want to complain, complain to the mods.

ReasonUser Warned: Do not encourage or participate in backseat moderation. This type of behaviour is never acceptable.

You're overcomplicating this so much over a hypothetical problem. Meanwhile new trolls find their way onto the forum every day in pretty much exactly the same way. Most of the people you're referring to are quite familiar with the mods, because we're either friends with them or have filed hundreds of reports or both. If you have a problem you can take it up with the mods yourself, but don't presume to know what they want better than the people they're familiar to.

Red TextGuys, this is not the place to discuss the primary. If you want to have that discussion go to the OT and don't have it here. Stay on topic, this thread is not about the electability of Beto or anyone else running for the nomination.

Sorry in advance, but I will put it very bluntly: the biggest gaming markets for traditional video games are
The US - 350m
Europe - 750m
Japan - 125m
I'm excluding China for reasons....but it would make my argument even stronger.
We're talking 1,2 bn people. I know that the black population of the US is roughly 15%. For Europe I assume it's below 5%. Do your math.
Unless there's money to be made, you will not have more black protagonists in games. Black people are a single digit percent of the main gaming markets.
This industry does not follow a moral compass, it's about profit and catering to target audiences.Yes it's sad but true. Do white average people really feel represented by white Hollywood actors? Why does nobody say "I want more average-looking leads in Hollywood movies"? Same thing imo.

GamingThreadThis is the state of diversity in 2019 gaming (Every AAA protagonist’s image, and why diversity matters)

ReasonUser Banned (1 week) Inflammatory Commentary and Piracy

I'm honestly surprised people aren't tired of looking at the same old same old by now. And, it kind of sucks that people view the increase in white girl representation as progression. They always get representation and arguably have the loudest voice in the country at the moment. Oh well, I can always download such games for free if I actually want to play them (except the playstation games, I'll have to buy those used).

EtcetEraThreadLouis CK doubles down at latest comedy show: "I like to jerk off, and I don't like being alone"

ReasonUser banned (1 week): dismissing sexual harassment

To be fair, as per the NYT article, he always did ask permission. Nobody said no. The issue is the power dynamics that were at play where these women may have felt obligated to comply. Not that it makes what happened alright, but it's a different issue.
Back on topic, I was hoping Louis would begin addressing this stuff in his act, but not like this.This is probably not far off.

EtcetEraThreadLouis CK doubles down at latest comedy show: "I like to jerk off, and I don't like being alone"

ReasonUser warned: antagonizing other members with insensitive remarks

Probably means EtcetEra is where humour goes to die.
This thread, you have people taking a comedian's on stage bit as biographical indictable offence, people in "Think of the children"-mode, satire blind, Post #174, #183 etc.
By Louie pre-FX standards, the new material isn't different, he was always foul and shock humour based, 2010 on-wards gave people selective memory because he liked cinematography and smooth jazz. Then the wankery scandal stuff happened, huge shitstorm, he addressed it/apologised outside of his act and returned to work, probably too quickly but it would stick with him regardless.
Some people are still going to see him for comedy reasons™ despite the scandal,. Some people don't like him anymore which is obviously justified, so you get the "look at that bitch eating crackers" crowd who want him exiled for eternity.

EtcetEraThreadHypothesis: Gamergate was the same movement that interfered in the 2016 American Election

ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Downplaying the impact of a hate movement. History of severe infractions.

This forum is so laughable in the myriad of ways it'll go to try and pin all of society's evils on what was largely an irrelevant and short-lived moment that was almost five years ago. Seriously, get over it. There are real problems out there that need to be addressed that have nothing to do with the GamerGate boogeyman.

Typical, and the PC version does't sound too impressive either. Looks good but I'm going to wait for a deep deep sale, sick of Japanese publishers being lazy and worse of all PSVR exclusivity for a year.

Red TextStop derailing this thread with your opinions on moderation. Further posts of this nature will be moderated. Members attempting to rationalise or dismiss the impact of transphobic rhetoric will also be moderated. Members attempting to learn something and broaden their understanding of transgender athletes in professional sports should do so without engaging in transphobic rhetoric.

So let's agree on some values in no particular order.
1. Trans shouldn't be discriminated against.
2. Safety, especially in combat sports is very important.
3. There is such a thing as the integrity of a sport. Cheating, PED's, and crooked refs may be rampant in pro sports, but we tend not to approve of that.
In my mind we are trying to determine where a transathelete's desires run in to conflict or potential conflict with 2 and 3, and where the concerns of 2 and 3 may over reach and run afoul of 1. Does that seem accurate?
So what makes the quarterback an odd comparison to me is that within the framework of American Football there are no weight classes, just positions. Boxing, wrestling, MMA would simply not sanction fights where a 125 lbs division fighter fought a 185 lbs fighter. Nor would they allow a 125 lbs man fight a 125 lbs woman. The later example is simply because at the athletic peaks the divide between men and women's performance is vast enough that within those sports it'd be a no contest. Part of the debate is in how much advantage remains even after a pretty long period of hormonal therapy, and this same debate rages over PEDs by the way. There's some science that the body gains what I'm just going to call cellular memory, and that even when there's been a cessation of PED intake some of the benefit remains effectively permanently. Back to football, people would probably take umbrage with said quarterbacks undergoing surgical and chemical alteration to make themselves larger. And obviously the next frontier of this will be CRISPR babies versus unaltered.
So to your point about the line being somewhere. I think based on what I've seen that that line has a really broad range depending on who is publishing and there are questions about the of that line. Likely there just hasn't been enough research to say with certainty, and it's a charged issue.
Full disclosure: having grown up in an environment with rampant domestic abuse, there's an aspect of this that's never going to be comfortable to me. And I refuse to watch Fallon Fox's fights because she still registers masculine to me in a primal biological way that'd be disturbing in respect to her fighting other women. That said, I'm trying to maintain a compassionate perspective, but maintain it's not a simple answer.

This isn't about who they are or aren't. This isn't about de-legitimizing anyone. Accepting it and letting it go is not a real solution. Fight sports is about equals fighting each other using different styles. Being a transgender (specifically, men transitioning to women) ruins the legitimacy of womens divisions.
A woman can transition to a man and fight men, because they don't gain an advantage over the men by doing so.
A man cannot transition to a woman, and then fight woman, because they gain an advantage by doing so.
It's as simple as that.

Sorry, this is ResetEra. You're not allowed such balanced opinions on matters. This is exactly the reason why I don't comment on these threads.
Do I agree with any of the things she's said? No. But is it okay to publicly rip the shit out out someone on an internet forum? No.

I already read it when I first entered the thread.
It seems completely logical to me the issues she has exposed about fighting a trans fighter, and UFC will probably need to adapt the rules or do something about it.
Why do I feel “problematic” is being used in a peyorative way to discredit her when she just expressed legit concern?
Also: she’s a probably who has probably fight countless times against other women. I presume she knows way more than any of us in this thread.

Does it really hurt them though? I mean, at the end of the day it's a video game. There are much more real and serious issues in this world plaguing the LGBTQ community. This really seems like making mountains out of mole hills.

She has a different opinion that you, and she is free to feel how she wants, that's the beauty of freedom, if you give someone the power to make you feel less about yourself well then that is on you, be the better person in the situation no matter her beliefs. You don't like her being used in the game then don't support the game.
I don't know much about the woman but I see a lot of people hating on her because they say she is ugly or they hate her voice, etc etc, I think it's quite petty. This is the first I see where this is not the case though.
Sonya looks and sounds the best she ever has and I'm looking forward to seeing more of the character.

EtcetEraThreadKevin Hart thinks being offended by anti-gay jokes, and being gay is a choice.

ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Excusing Homophobia

Just stop, Kevin is being insensitive to the topic at hand but lets not compare being insensitive to the LGBTQ community with racism towards black folks. Two ignorant situations with totally different stories behind them.

ReasonUser Banned (2 Days): Antagonizing other members over a series of posts

Acting like people are throwing a fit for disagreeing and are so so upset and calling them hysteric is alt right shit, so own what you do. Pretty obviously you tried to bait people with your hot take but then when they respond apparently you didn’t do anything to question.

EtcetEraThreadChris Pratt attends an anti-gay church with a history of child molestation and ex-gay therapy

Red TextThis thread is locked as the premise is disingenuous. While Chris Pratt is the subject of this thread, there is also multiple other celebrities who attend this same specific church. The OP, however, chose only to focus on Chris Pratt despite the other celebrities being listed in the article as well.

EtcetEraThreadNew Research Shows a Vast Majority of Cis People Won't Date Trans People

ReasonUser Banned (1 Month): Transphobia, willful misgendering.

I’ve matched with transgender people by accident on various dating apps because they put their settings as females looking for males. I pretty much end it respectfully by me telling them that I’m flattered but straight and they all have taken it well.
One person was surprised on how nice I was.
It might help them (on Tinder at least) if some changed their settings around, but what do I know?