I'm asking this because personally I am conflicted. On one hand, you have many (valid) complaints about things like Origin, Battlelog, M26 Dart, etc etc. On the other hand, there's so much in this game that looks amazing and fun. So I ask you--should I buy BF3 now? Should I wait until the DLC drops and see what happens? Or is the game just not any good anymore? Thanks in advance for the help.

OK, so I just upgraded my PC to the point where I can run BF3 well. Now the hard question, which I put to you gentlemen:

Is this game (including B2K) worth paying 50 dollars for?

I'm asking this because personally I am conflicted. On one hand, you have many (valid) complaints about things like Origin, Battlelog, M26 Dart, etc etc. On the other hand, there's so much in this game that looks amazing and fun. So I ask you--should I buy BF3 now? Should I wait until the DLC drops and see what happens? Or is the game just not any good anymore? Thanks in advance for the help.

OK, so I just upgraded my PC to the point where I can run BF3 well. Now the hard question, which I put to you gentlemen:

Is this game (including B2K) worth paying 50 dollars for?

I'm asking this because personally I am conflicted. On one hand, you have many (valid) complaints about things like Origin, Battlelog, M26 Dart, etc etc. On the other hand, there's so much in this game that looks amazing and fun. So I ask you--should I buy BF3 now? Should I wait until the DLC drops and see what happens? Or is the game just not any good anymore? Thanks in advance for the help.

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OK, that's very cool, thanks for the info. I'd still like to know if BF3--as a game--is worth buying at this stage.

Wtf, yes, it's worth buying, 50 bucks is nothing for this game + B2K anyway, many people paid 100 for it.

If you like shooters get it, if you don't like shooters don't. There are no valid 'complaints', m26 is not game ruining and isn't seen much anymore, and as said above battlelog is a positive, not a negative, and origin you never see or use anyway, it just sits in the background while you're in-game.

XP doesn't mean shit, it's pretty much cosmetic, when you hit lvl 45 it's nothing new except vehicle and weapon unlocks. It's not always double xp anyway, it might mean a few extra double xp weekends over the course of the next 6 months or something.

XP doesn't mean shit, it's pretty much cosmetic, when you hit lvl 45 it's nothing new except vehicle and weapon unlocks. It's not always double xp anyway, it might mean a few extra double xp weekends over the course of the next 6 months or something.

Double XP matters in a game where unlocks = upgrades. Gee, I sure love flying this plane with no flares!

Everyone starts with flares. It isn't an unlock.

Damn, beaten. But it's still not that important, it's not like the best unlocks are at the end, and even then it's still not a huge thing. Unlocks on vehicles don't change stuff dramatically. The only really important unlock that I actually see is maybe rocket pods for jets which are unlocked early, citv station/reactive armour for MBT's which are pretty late, and TV's for the attack heli which is the last one.

I suppose it is a little annoying, but I don't think they'll make double xp weekends a regular thing for premium members, like I said, there might only be one every few months.

Double XP matters in a game where unlocks = upgrades. Gee, I sure love flying this plane with no flares!

It's not like you start off with a single grenade and a knife while the enemy spawns in a T90 with an LAV-D strapped to the top. I found it easy enough to get started in this game with the rest of the playerbase getting a 6-month-odd head-start, plus if you stick with your teammates you can take their kits when you die for unlocks!

Here's my problem: the whole idea of buying all the DLC at once is fine, I'd buy that. But a lot of this other stuff smells rotten and I don't want to support it--but that means I'm out more money later if I do want the expansions.

Also beat the campaign, it was actually really fun. A bit too cinematic and quicktime-y to be perfect, plus the lack of soundtrack was a bit annoying, but all in all I enjoyed myself. Sure felt worse about the character deaths than I did in Bad Company 2.

The only issue is vehicle unlocks, since class unlocks give no real advantage. Heck, the best weapon in the game is unlocked extremely early, if not automatically.

Premium members will get double xp weekends, but they'll obviously have been playing before the double xp weekend starts, so they're probably going to have almost all the unlocks. If they don't, it might just give them the extra boost they need, which probably won't be a whole lot.

The only people the double xp weekend will really benefit properly is new players who just started playing the game not long before the first double xp weekend, and of course they'll need to be premium too, so that isn't going to be many people.

There will probably still be double xp weekends as well for normal players, it's not like they're totally abandoning normal players.

Here's my problem: the whole idea of buying all the DLC at once is fine, I'd buy that. But a lot of this other stuff smells rotten and I don't want to support it--but that means I'm out more money later if I do want the expansions.

What else sounds like bs apart from the server queue priority (which I agree with you 100% on, that's fucked) and the double xp mentioned previously?

The only issue is vehicle unlocks, since class unlocks give no real advantage. Heck, the best weapon in the game is unlocked extremely early, if not automatically.

Premium members will get double xp weekends, but they'll obviously have been playing before the double xp weekend starts, so they're probably going to have almost all the unlocks. If they don't, it might just give them the extra boost they need, which probably won't be a whole lot.

The only people the double xp weekend will really benefit properly is new players who just started playing the game not long before the first double xp weekend, and of course they'll need to be premium too, so that isn't going to be many people.

There will probably still be double xp weekends as well for normal players, it's not like they're totally abandoning normal players.

What else sounds like bs apart from the server queue priority (which I agree with you 100% on, that's fucked) and the double xp mentioned previously?

Has there been a single double-xp weekend for normal players yet? No? Then I doubt it will happen. The whole stats thing in Premium stinks of "we could have implemented this for everyone, but we won't."

Plus if you stick with your teammates you can take their kits when you die for unlocks!

That's exactly what I did when there were no medics around
It's pretty useful if you have no ammo left and kill a Support guy too, you can steal his kit and drop an ammobox quickly and pick your kit back up.

Has there been a single double-xp weekend for normal players yet? No? Then I doubt it will happen. The whole stats thing in Premium stinks of "we could have implemented this for everyone, but we won't."

Um yes there has been. Might have even been 2. Do you even play this game/pay attention to the news on it?

Most of it is cosmetic, like a different knife or different tags - heck, the list has been posted, nobody can argue that it's anything but cosmetic apart from the server queue shit. None of it is stuff that is important and could be implemented to improve the experience for everyone.

No probs. I know what you mean, a premium service makes everyone a little worried, especially since it's something that CoD did with their elite service, and they aren't exactly known for quality.

Free patches includes just bugfixes and nice new features, and you'll notice that there are relatively often patches, which do fix a lot of issues. A huge one comes out in 2 days actually, which will fix that fucking m26 problem at last. They won't be abandoning any players when it comes to patches, patches are part of the core game, so even if you didn't own a single expansion let alone the premium service, you'll still get the patches for free.

Lets actually go through the premium list and see what it is:

2 week early access - kind of weird, but really, who cares.
Unique in game knife - oh wow when i stab someone it's colourful instead of silver.
Unique dog tags - oh wow i can brag on a game about how i spent money on cosmetic items.
Unique camos - same as above.
Unique weapon camos - same as above.
Stat reset feature - not really sure why anyone would even need this, but i guess this would be something that should be given to all players.
10 platoon decals - wow my platoon logo will be more colourful than yours, thats huge man.
Server queue priority - fucked up. sounds bullshit.
Saving 5 battle reports - actually pretty cool, I will definitely be using this. Mostly cosmetic though, you could just save the file if you really wanted to save them.
5 new assignments - nothing new. you just complete assignments which are challenges, and maybe get something new and cosmetic for it.
Exclusive events/xp weekends/videos/guides/bonus content - all just fun stuff which doesn't mean anything.

I really don't see anything game-changing there. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hasn't even got the game yet, but if you get the game and love it, then I would recommend it.

I really don't see anything game-changing there. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hasn't even got the game yet, but if you get the game and love it, then I would recommend it.

I think that's about right. From the sound of it, the base game (plus Karkand, gotta have dat Gulf of Oman) is well worth getting, so it looks like I'll be doing that. I'll reserve judgement on the DLCs in general, it may be the case that only one or two are worth getting (seriously, who bought Armored Fury for BF2?). Thanks for the input.

I still don't see why you are all sperging out over the queue skipping the Premium may be offering. In the months I have owned BF3, and the weeks I have been able to actually play it (seriously wish I had my PC with me sometimes). I have never once come across a server with a queue longer than 2 that I would actually consider joining.

I don't know what game you've all been playing, but server queues are such a non-issue it's unreal. Most of the time you can just hop to another server, there's bound to be tons running a similar setup, so you're fine. The times that you can't, it's not exactly an issue to be sat in queue for a few minutes extra as players leave servers constantly under normal circumstances anyway. Though I may have less issue with queues than most people because I'm British and we stereotypically love our queues.

The double XP thing is also such a non-issue. If double XP is so "game breaking" that it shouldn't be one of the events Premium may offer, then the unlock packs must have killed the game off already. Hang on, they didn't, so why the fuck the occasional double XP be game breaking either?

I wish the SKS and HK417 would be allkit guns, the 3-5 shot type of gun they are could work neatly as a replacement of garand/M14 of bc2.

I loved the M1 Garand in BC2. Very few people used it because you couldn't customise it, and it was technically inferior to the M14 in every way. But it was just so nice to use. Along with the other WWII weapons now that I think about it...

I was driving around the antenna on caspian border and a sniper boldy stands up on a rock to shoot to me, I carefully analyzed the rock formation and drove up the small rock formation in a way a skateboarder would go up a halfpipe from an angle and I managed to smack his ass with my jeep.

Then 2 other snipers came out of their rocks and I promptly smooshed them with glorious Russian jeep