Posted by lyndalu
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 19, 2009 at 8:00 pm

You're acting like a 2 year old, you can't just communicate what you want to say but rather we have to play 20 questions to get it out of you? I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure out what your problem is (cause frankly I don't care).

I agree with 'who cares', don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out of Ptown. Maybe a city like Tracy or Stockton would suit you better.

Posted by such sorrow in parting
a resident of California Reflections
on Jul 20, 2009 at 8:32 am

oh Susan, whose name means "lily " in hebrew
Fare thee well! and if for ever, Still for ever, fare thee well.
One kind kiss before we part, Drop a tear, and bid adieu; Though we sever, my fond heart Till we meet shall pant for you.
If we do meet again, we'll smile indeed; If not, 'tis true this parting was well made.
She went her unremembering way, She went and left in me The pang of all the partings gone, And partings yet to be.

Posted by Town Square
a resident of Stoneridge
on Jul 20, 2009 at 9:10 am

EVERYONE, RESIST the urge to respond to this post. Susan is likely a teenager. Susan is likely not even a girl. It's very likely Susan is laughing hysterically every time someone posts a response. Get it?

Posted by Paul
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jul 20, 2009 at 9:14 am

Susan is real. Many 60's & 70's gen residents are losing their confidence in this town. Perhaps before they leave to retire or live elsewere, a reflective look into the past reveals friendlier times when economic survival was not an issue and Pleasanton became a wonderful place to raise a family.
I will not say that I embarrassed to live here, but I have seen this town and the people evolve into a new entity that no longer consider the effect of their actions or lack of action. I think Susan has hit on a very big topic. Is the soul of the city for sale? It sure looks that way.

Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 20, 2009 at 10:28 am

Did you know that there is a bigger problem than Global Warming? Yes, I saw it on the National Geographic Channel last night, and I'm convinced that more government spending can resolve the problem and prevent the sun (yes, OUR sun) from going ballistic in the next 5 billion years and incinerating all of the planets in a large ball of hot nuclear gas (much like the gas emitted in some of these comments). Aside from my short divergence here, this is a REAL problem. I'm worried for my ancestors. What are we to do as a race of human beings to prevent this? I couldn't sleep all night worrying that this might happen sooner than the predicted 5 billion years in the future. What if it happens in the next 3 billion years!?!?!?! Please, write your congress person and senators. Urge them to take immediate action to curtail this catastrophe. If we can alter the climate today and change weather patterns by limiting carbon dioxide emissions, we should be able to prevent this nuclear catastrophe and the end of the human race! Whew...I'm glad Susan started this post. I was wondering how I could alert the nation and the world to this pending disaster. Now, maybe I can sleep tonight.

Posted by C3PO
a resident of Southeast Pleasanton
on Jul 20, 2009 at 10:49 am

Must be all the hardcore gangsters shooting up Main Street like wild west bandits. Yeah, I'm having a hard time with that too! And those filthy bands that play Concert in the Park on Fridays in the Summer...Those horrifying lyrics about "Big black horses & cherry trees". I hate to imagine the perversions tearing through my 4-year old child's mind when those words echo across that thug-covered lawn. Just dreadful!

I'd also guess that the inescapable and inevitable operation of a "world class" downtown art theater has you embarrassed. The thought alone drives a dribble of noxious bile to base of my tongue. Who needs live art form and creative expression when we've got scores of rich & philosophical reality shows on TV to feast upon? I can't wait to sit and watch the Flavor of Love marathon with my sixth-grader tonight! I think I'll move to Dublin first though...F Pleasanton! ;-)

Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:06 am

If Pleasanton has truly sold out to the big box retailers, real estate interests & so-called "out of towners" just why is it that there are at least 6-7 empty storefronts & restaurants lining Main St. right now? Wouldn't the greed & contempt for the citizenry by the local government, Downtown Merchants Assoc. & Chamber of Commerce have already seen to it that something like a slew of likes of Old Navy's, Bed Bath & Beyond's, Game Stop, Panda Express's & Quizno's? Oh sorry, almost forgot that Quizno's managed to sneak onto Main St.

Point is while we are a growing & evolving town we are growing at a snails pace when compared to our other cottage-like communities in the Bay Area. The housing cap, combined with the economy has kept any new "mega developments" from seeing the light of day, we've built new parks & the new sports field complex, the Ridge Trail is being maintained & (hopefully) expanded to accommodate more hiking & single track Mtn. Bike use, Hacienda Business Park is slooooowly finding new tenants as well & it appears that there might be a new life for the Vintage Hills shopping center too.

We still have concerts in the park & movies on the green. Wine Strolls, 1st Wednesdays (& slow quiet Thursday's) the Alameda County Faire, the Goodguys Car Shows, parades, fireworks, great schools, awesome weather & even an In & Out Burger. What more could you want? Aside from those random vacancies downtown & all those damn kids on skateboards with their long hair & rock n' roll music (lol!)...not much.

p.s. as an ex-long haired, rock listening, skateboarder, just what is this new crap you're all listening to?

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:08 am

Come on give Her the benefit of the doubt - she's trying to pull the worms out of your nose. Perhaps it is an intriguing question: To get People to say Why they are no longer proud of Pleasanton and why they may be embarrassed to say they live in Pleasanton. If that's Her intent: Then we could hear a whole slough of grips about the City, Citizens, Schools, Clubs, Churches, Pigeons, Turkeys, Politicians, wannabes etc.. etc.. Glad to see people having Fun - Make it a Great Day!

Posted by C3PO
a resident of Southeast Pleasanton
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:24 am

I think it's the affect of an underfunded solar system that has us all down on our hometown. It's time we update these silly planets! A megaton or nine of cobalt injected into Jupiter should mix enough with the overall red to make it delightfully purplely. This alone will brighten our spirits. Perhaps a large rainbow flag on the moon...Possibly a rebranding of Mars? Something that evokes - I don't know - chocolate and nougat? Maybe a rebranding of Earth herself. I like Earthleton. Ken is right about the inevitable expansion of our star - engulfing Earth and bringing an end to life as we know it will happen. We need to bug out...AND FAST! 3-5 billion years is JUST around the corner. I propose relocating all the aircraft on Earth to a vast dry lake bed then igniting all the engines at once. A collective "full throttle" should be enough to propel this planet out of this embarrassing orbit.

Posted by D W
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:43 am

Because we're a city that has fun in better ways than griping? Because we back up our talk with action? Because we rely on professional experts and not hot-aired fat-mouthed cultural war-zealoted political talk radio pundits? Because we are trying to improve our environment while keeping our budget balanced and trying to add jobs? Because we are changing with the times and not accepting the status quo? Because it's about everybody and not just liberal or conservative? Because we rely on professional people who've earned the trust? Because our idea of fun is working together, loving each other, solving problems, and creating solutions, instead of just gripe, gripe, gripe and do nothing about it? Because we don't even try to make time to talk to the city leaders, all of whom while they may have busy schedules (Ex: In 10 of 12 months, the vice mayor works in Fremont during the day AND in Pleasanton at night) still have open doors and are better listeners than given credit for?

Ah, forget it! These blogs will always be around, there will always be people who believe it's more fun to complain similar to the ugly mouths we hear from all over the country than to actually do something about the issues. I read these blogs because I respect the work of Jeb, Janet, and Dennis M et al so much (in the latter's case, his parents are one of our city's most Royal couples and two of my very favorite people). As for my regard for some of these bloggers? It depends. I believe most of the bloggers are really good people, but there are some I would never want to get caught in an elevator with, i.e. the bad ones are just a bit too creepy.

Still, let's all thank the Weekly for keeping up with all of us. It's an honor to have such a high-quality media source like here.

Sorry you say that about Pleasanton, you must be a Jonny come lately like most of the yahoo's that have come to this wonderfull town in the past 20 years or so. I have been a lifetime resident of Pleasanton and if you want to really see something move to MEXICO. Oh did I say that. It sounds like just another very ungratefull person who doesn't understand values.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 20, 2009 at 1:09 pm

Mr M.

Guess again my friend. Our family in Pleasant on dates back to the war day! You would be amazed. One of my relatives was the FIRST major business ladies in town. Lots of the land near down town was in our family for years. So, No Johnny come lately.

Susan,
I have not a clue as to why you would be embarrassed to say you live in Pleasanton.
I have lived here for over 21 years and it pretty much seems the same wonderful little town it has always been. There are annual events that I have attended since my youngest child was in kindergarten at Alisal. My kids all went to school here and graduated from Amador Valley High. I am proud of that.

Posted by Rypress
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Jul 20, 2009 at 2:26 pm

I'll play Susan's "guessing game".

So lyndalu said:
"You're acting like a 2 year old, you can't just communicate what you want to say but rather we have to play 20 questions to get it out of you?"

To which Susan replied:
"lyndalu, Of all the comments, yours is the closest to part of the reason for my embarrassment! Please tell me your not an adult, or a parent? I am almost there people." (12 hours ago, mind you)

My guess is that you - Susan - feel the people of Pleasanton are too judgmental for your comfort? Perhaps you've recently been judged to a degree that you deem unfair? Perhaps you've experienced unsettling public humiliation as a result? Perhaps you're a typical teenager longing for attention and way above being told that you're anything less than an strong and independent teen?

Posted by Dublin Resident
a resident of Dublin
on Jul 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Lydalu's comment was the clue - "you're acting like a 2 year old..."

I think Susan is tired of having to witness and/or interact with the entiled, rude children of Pleasanton residents. And by the way, I don't JUST mean Pleasanton residents, so don't jump on me because I'm from Dublin. I am also tired of watching spoiled children misbehave in restaurants, stores, etc. while their parents act as if they have no control over their yountsters. Parents, you are in charge. Teach them to behave young, and your life, the the lives of those around you will be more pleasant. You may adore your little darlings and think it's cute for them to be allowed free reign at a fancy restaurant, but the nice couple at the neighboring table may be paying good money to a babysitter for the privelege of a few child-free hours, and would rather not have to deal with your loud, messy tot coming for a visit. Whatever happened to teaching kids common courtesy?

Posted by Pleasanton Mom
a resident of Stoneridge
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm

Dublin resident I agree with you. Most kids around here are polite and well-behaved either on their own, with friends, or with parents present, but we have too many rude unsupervised/unchaperoned children on the loose in this town. Where are their parents? Do the parents know their kids and/or their friends are being rude to people all over town? These are kids who come from our wonderful schools that are teaching character education each and every year. Just go to Raleys before school, check out Jamba Juice on Hopyard after school sometime or on Wednesday mornings especially. Just because their parents give them money to buy things, does not give them the right to annoy the other customers. With summer, you might find these kids at Hacienda Crossings or downtown. Try asking one of these kids to stop being so rude and take into consideration the rest of people or the property around you (ie-skateboarders), good luck... Ask the chaperones at school events who these problem kids are, the chaperones know...do you know who these kids are? Are they yours or your child's friends? Maybe you'd be surprised, do they only do that when you are not around? Did you teach them this behavior?

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm

I'll play Susan's "guessing game".
So lyndalu said:
"You're acting like a 2 year old, you can't just communicate what you want to say but rather we have to play 20 questions to get it out of you?"

( Warm )

To which Susan replied:

"lyndalu, Of all the comments, yours is the closest to part of the reason for my embarrassment! Please tell me your not an adult, or a parent? I am almost there people." (12 hours ago, mind you)

My guess is that you - Susan - feel the people of Pleasanton are too judgmental for your comfort? Perhaps you've recently been judged to a degree that you deem unfair? Perhaps you've experienced unsettling public humiliation as a result? Perhaps you're a typical teenager longing for attention and way above being told that you're anything less than an strong and independent teen?

( Ice Cold )No Humiliation for me what so ever. Teenager, I could only wish. Longing for attention, not likely.

How did I do, Susan?

The answers are within the posts, keem them coming. Ther is a point to all this that will be revealed, trust me!

Posted by Another Pleasanton Mom
a resident of Stoneridge
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:39 pm

Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, 0 minutes ago

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Dublin resident I agree with you. Most PARENTS around here are polite and well-behaved either on their own, with friends, or with OTHGER parents present, but we have too many rude unsupervised/unchaperoned PARENTS on the loose in this town. Where are their CHILDREN? Do the CHILDREN know their PARENTS and/or their friends are being rude to people all over town?

These are PARENTS who come from our wonderful schools that HAVE CHILDREN LEARNING character education each and every year. Just go to Raleys before school, check out Jamba Juice on Hopyard after school sometime or on Wednesday mornings especially. Just because their HUSBANDS/WIVES give them money to buy things, does not give them the right to annoy the other customers.

With summer, you might find these PARENTS at Hacienda Crossings or downtown. Try asking one of these PARENTS to stop being so rude and take into consideration the rest of people or the property around you (ie-skateboarders), good luck... Ask the CHILDREN at school events who these problem PARENTS are, the KIDS know...do you know who these PARENTS are? Are they yours or your CHILDRENS friends? Maybe you'd be surprised, do they only do that when THEIR CHILDREN are not around? WHO TAUGHT them this behavior?

Yin-Yang! Think About It? If we notices our children on line, or around town, acting like many PARENTS/ADULTS do, we would think we, or someone else were BAD PARENTS!

Posted by LOL Dan
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Another one for Another Pleasanto Mom! LOL

Posted by Dublin Resident, a resident of Dublin, 1 hour ago

Lydalu's comment was the clue - "you're acting like a 2 year old..."

I think Susan is tired of having to witness and/or interact with the entiled, rude PARENTS/ADULTS of Pleasanton CHILDREN. And by the way, I don't JUST mean Pleasanton PARENTS/ADULTS, so don't jump on me because I'm from Dublin. I am also tired of watching spoiled PARENTS/ADULTS misbehave in restaurants and ON LINE in community FORUMS, stores, etc. While their CHILDREN act as if they have no control over their PARENTS behavior. CHILDREN, you are in charge. Teach YOUR PARENTShow to behave young, and your life, the the lives of those around you will be more pleasant.

You may adore your little PARENTS and think it's cute for them to be allowed free WIYHIN THE PUBLIC COMMUNITY, but the other MATURE WEE ROUNDED ADSULTS and CHILDREN in the COMMUNITY would rather not have to deal with your loud, IGNORANT, MEAN, SPITFULL behavior. Whatever happened to PARENTS/ADULTS having common courtesy?

People, I think this Susan is on to something, as people are picking up on. She probably is a great grandmother and she is viewing us "parents" as behaving and acting like kids, which in part has been true lately in the community. I am a little embarrassed myself. Even my close friends don't seem the same lately. The religious, political, National and State dynamics have people really at odds with one another.

Sometimes it take a natural disaster, or a serious illness to bring people together and to focus on whats really important. Community needs to stick together and to work together, no matter what they believe. Action speaks way louder than words.

And I meant that in a sincere way, rather than a condescending way. I myself feel like I have been to wrapped up in my own mind set, and value set, and have been subconsciously creating more adversity within myself the community in some ways through all this. I would rather focus on working together with the community and lifting up one another, regardless of beliefs or political affiliation. That's the way it was for most of us growing up. Our children can feel the friction for sure! Hey, I am more than open to searching my heart of hearts and trying to meet others somewhere in the middle. I am more than open to learning and growing. I am more than open to working together for the greater good of the community. Sometime I need to meet others half way, more than I do.

Posted by alice
a resident of Ridgeview Commons
on Jul 20, 2009 at 6:08 pm

Posted by Paul, a member of the Foothill High School community, 8 hours ago

Susan is real. Many 60's & 70's gen residents are losing their confidence in this town. Perhaps before they leave to retire or live elsewhere, a reflective look into the past reveals friendlier times when economic survival was not an issue and Pleasanton became a wonderful place to raise a family.

I will not say that I embarrassed to live here, but I have seen this town and the people evolve into a new entity that no longer consider the effect of their actions or lack of action. I think Susan has hit on a very big topic. Is the soul of the city for sale? It sure looks that way.

Paul, You are a wise man. And yes, Susan is a real person, that is known and loved by many, many people. She has a wonderful family that has contributed greatly to Pleasanton for years and years, as well as some very active and wonderful grandchildren and great grandchildren. It is a shame that people will act towards one another in this type of chat room, as they do.

That being said, Susan dear, are you going to let the cat out of the bag?

Posted by Original Joe
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 20, 2009 at 6:59 pm

It doesn't matter, I'm a little embarrassed too. Just look at the way people treat each other when they post comments here. I haven't posted in quite some time because it always gets twisted into a political message or some kind of a smart remark from all of the "cholos" of the valley.

Posted by Dan
a resident of California Somerset
on Jul 20, 2009 at 8:09 pm

I just work here..

More than anyone will ever concede to! It's all about how educated we are. How good our schools are. How well dressed our kids are and how nice our car is. Where we work and who we socialize with. What wine we drink and fine food we eat. Who got what golf score. Yes, there is a very Unique snobbery settleing in here in the youger families. Very sad indeed. Not to mention these spoiled tyrant kids!
Sometimes I feel that the asian and indian families are actually more down to earth, or at least polite than all my proud anglo friends. I get so sick of listening to the wifies too!

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 21, 2009 at 9:37 am

Well it's 9:30am and No Final Answer from Susan that I can tell.
Susan call me if you want to discuss Commercial vs Residential Real Estate in Downtown just look at the current vacancy across the Board. If you really care go to Web Link look under Featured Listings and you can see what I'm working on. Sincerely, Gary Schwaegerle

Posted by Anti Hero
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jul 21, 2009 at 10:49 am

I know why you're embarrassed...It's those raving religious and brain-washed clowns barking atop their soapbox downtown by Tully's Coffee, right? They embarrass me too. Isn't their golden rule to treat others how they would want to be treated? I can't imagine THEM wanting to be barked at with opposing and unsolicited philosophies while trying to enjoy an ice cream with their family on a Summer afternoon. Very embarrassing!

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 21, 2009 at 11:35 am

Heavens to Betsy. I woke up late. Let me shuffle through these posts while having some tea and see where we need to go with this today.

I do need to bake some cookies for my grandchildren also and tend to the garden. Hi Alice, nice to see you here honey.

I see we are making some progress here, and that is good. I am finishing my dissertation for you all, and getting my surprises together.

Thanks for all the comments, good and bad and for the collective energies. I never expected for this to get so interesting, but I feel good about it, and I see others are coming to light within themselves in some way or another.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 21, 2009 at 11:53 am

Oh Heavens,

You folks are really picking up on "why I am embarrassed to say I live in Pleasanton"...

Although I have resided here for more than 70 years, I do get around, as I am still quite active and I am envolved in several communites, so I get a good feel for comparison. I have no plans to move though, I am just embarrassed.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 21, 2009 at 12:06 pm

I am not saying Pleasanton is a bad place to live, or that I intend to relocate at my age, or that there are not very good aspects to Pleasanton, just that I am "embarrassed to say I live in Pleasanton" for the reasons I will reveal later. It's our collective energies that will bring us back together as a community, if that's still possible based upon what I am observing.

My roots are very deep here and I continue to be very actively involved in the community. I am also considers some donations, funds, land etc. so I am searching my heart of hearts as well. I don't like what I see these last few years. A different breed of people are taking over town.

I guess that's to be expected over the years. The same goes for Palo Alto, as well as other area's where I also own properies and stay envolved. california has really changed over the years.

That being said, if you to are a bit embarrassed to say you live in Pleasanton, or annoyed with the current climate or events, or annoyed or disappointed with the community as a whole, do tell us, please!

And grandson, thank you for this computer and showing me the ropes darling. It is much more efficient than the old telegrams we all used back when. The cookies will be warm and waiting honey.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 21, 2009 at 12:14 pm

Do keep in mind, that it is also partly people like myself and my friends, that could easily donate that 2 million dollars that the community needs. So please don't take lightly what our generation has to offer in so many ways, other than monetarily as well.

Some people have pointed out that they don't like the behaviors and actions of the kids in town, and some kids in town have pointed out that they don't like the attitudes, actions and behaviors of some of the adults in town. There is not such a wide gap in generations between the kids and their parents for me and sometimes it's the kids that have a more open view and more realistic solutions. Of coarse one problem is that these kids don't get the undivided attention from the parents, that they need and deserve.

There is a big hesitation to donate here in Pleasanton within my circles, for reasons were getting to here, so there is an importance, and people do car, as they have expressed.

Posted by Recent Grad
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm

This is the first time I have heard an adult say the same thing I have felt since I graduated high school in Pleasanton. The biggest difference I could see between my class and the classes behind me (and I'm not just saying this because of class rivalry) was the disconnect between the parents and kids.

The most "popular" students, if that is what you want to call it, or "well known and liked" sounds better, weren't the badasses who did drugs and drank and fought people. Instead they were the people who were in touch with the community. Not necessarily volunteering, being goody-goody, and participating in everything, but just connected with not only their classmates, but the adults of the town as well.

I know this isn't the only problem we're facing but from the angle I have on this "new Pleasanton atmosphere" it is a big factor that is causing big change and affecting more things than people think.

Posted by Parent
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jul 21, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Recent Grad,

Thank you so much for taking the time to add your comments.

I really thing the grandmother lady, Susan is on to something in a BIG way. Already several parents in this thread have come out and accepted responsibility, looked within and come to a realization that this is all affecting the very kids, that some complain about.

Being a parent, our primary duty is to be an example to our children and to prepare them for the world. The attitude and action, or lack of action on the parents part in this community is appalling. The attitude in infighting around town and on these forums is very sad indeed.

Your right, there is a huge disconnect between the parents and the kids. Much more so in this affluent community than many lower income communites.

I think it's some of the adults who are spoiled, rude and have a huge sense of entitlement.

many of you kids are emotionally on your own, as your parents are very self absorbed and focused on their own selfish agendas.

Thanks for bringing your perspective here. Please get some more student to join in here!

Are you related to "grandma Susan" ? If so, you are a lucky person.

She seems to feel that some of the adults are acting like children in this community.

Posted by The All-Knowing
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Jul 21, 2009 at 3:19 pm

I'm not buying it...

Susan seems to me like a desperate teenager trying to pose as an elder in order to get a bigger response from this forum - and it's working. In another life I may have attempted something similar.

Little old ladies command respect - naturally. Who doesn't love a good ol' grandmother? Especially one who says cliche things like "heavens to Betsy." Please! You actually said that? It goes without saying that anyone under Susan's spell is going to be responsive and reactive to what it is "she" is building up to (which I doubt is going to be very surprising, shocking, or "rewarding" at all).

Little things "Susan" has said such as:

-- "I do need to bake some cookies for my grandchildren also and tend to the garden"

-- "heavens to Betsy"

-- "Opps, thats the kettle boiling..."

-- "And grandson, thank you for this computer and showing me the ropes darling. It is much more efficient than the old telegrams we all used back when. The cookies will be warm and waiting honey."

This is "Susan" trying to validate her elderly facade. And what a poor job "she" is doing!

My all-time favorite so far though: "The cookies will be warm and waiting honey." For real? You actually said THAT in this forum??? Classic!

You should have left out these lame cliche "grandmother one-liners" and you'd have more of us convinced.

No grandmother I ever met plays games like this. Especially one who claims to be as old as you say you are. That generation says what is on their mind and they say it RIGHT NOW...No games. You should really get to know your character before attempting to do one.

You're bored Susan. I suggest a more constructive way to spend your summer rather than trying to be someone you're not. Perhaps brushing up on your grammar is a good start. You've got about six more weeks until school starts and your spelling and grammar can use a lot of help.

To Mr All Knowing, I just did some research, thinking you had a point here.

A) Susan started her post on July 17 at around 8:00 P.M.

The topic generated some good thought among the group.
As the discussion continued, people, parents, adults contributed thoughts and feelings about the town in general,as some chimed in about the kids in town.

B) As of yesterday, THREE DAYS after the original post, Susan NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about KIDS or her AGE! I think she responded about her age JUST YESTERDAY as a reply to an insult, someone saying she was acting like 2 year old? It wasn't until about mid day today that Susan even brought up anything about kids, even after many posts from others about kids in general. As a matter of fact, even when provoked several times, this Susan didn't really say much about anything anyone posted, she just encouraged people to keep posing in a polite manner, consistent with a more mature person. Susan has not said one negative comment to anyone, also consistent with maturity. A "teenager" especially one that feels neglect from an adult, adults or parents would never have the self restraint to hold off on the flame baiting here.

C) I think one of the posts was probably from one of here grandchildren, who is now posting, and rightfully, she is being polite and loving to that grandchild.

D) I did see that an older lady responded on Susan's behalf as well.
I don't see any notice will ill intentions on her part what so ever.

As a matter of fact, this thread has more views and almost more comments than any thread ever!

I comment this Susan and invite her, as well as the community to respect her and to continue dialogg.

Posted by Amanda
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 21, 2009 at 5:10 pm

I know "grandma" and she is a wonderful lady. Although Susan is not her first name, it's her middle name. In fact, I told here never to use here real name or address on line, ever. She is in her late 70' and lives alone, although she had a big family, many grandchildren and many friends. She is pretty well known in Pleasanton and I don't think many people would say an unkind work to her in person.

So, let the forum continue and be polite to her. I do agree after reading the forum, that she has not said one unfriendly or unkind word here, unlike others. Personally, being a teenager myself, I think most of these people replying are teenagers.

Posted by Johnathan
a resident of Castlewood
on Jul 21, 2009 at 5:37 pm

Man, we have several forums like this one here in Boulder. Man, I can say that the younger generation are more tolerant and way less rude when discussing heated issues! Glad to be outta P-Town and I aint commin back after I gradiatate! I though P-Twon was cool, but not anymore! hey amanda and caitlin what up!

Posted by The All-Knowing
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Jul 21, 2009 at 6:20 pm

Amanda? Susan? Whatever your name is now...You're sure having a lot of fun with all this. So am I. How many friends/aliases have you got now?

The tone of Amanda and Susan are remarkably similar. Right down to the generation-specific cliche sayings. Amanda sounds EXACTLY like Susan. Her grammar, spelling and tone is a dead give-away. The initial unknown effect or hypothesis of her now "experiment" is becoming very apparent.

I will hypothesize that her hypothesis was whether or not she can get significant attention about her post while remaining in character as 'Great Grandmother Susan'.

Three days into this whole thing "Susan" refers to it as a "social experiment" by saying, "Keep the comments coming in this social experiment that's working rather well. There will be a reward coming!"

Parent from Birdland,
Are 70+ year old grandmothers who tend gardens, bake cookies and sip tea really into online social-experimenting? I think not. Also, what do you have to say to Susan's first post of the day today POSTED AT ROUGHLY 1:00PM. 1:00PM! Have you ever heard of a 70+ year old who gets up at 1:00PM to sip tea, fire up the internet, and begin her day???? Please! We *ALL KNOW* the latest *ANY* 70+ year old sleeps in is 6:25AM. Give or take a minute. ;-)

"Posted by Susan, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, 5 hours ago

Heavens to Betsy. I woke up late. Let me shuffle through these posts while having some tea and see where we need to go with this today."

We're at the mercy of Susan and her promised "reward". Oh, the suspense is killing me!

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 21, 2009 at 10:47 pm

This is way to Funny - I don't have time to read all the Additions
Grandma Susan Ur Good nice way to start up controversy cookies tea and ur off in Reno welcome back. The old car's running fine, its the newer old cars giving me trouble waiting for the perfect eco friendy car; gets like 150 miles per gallon makes the air smell nice etc..OK perhaps we could rent rooms to Seniors.. shall I rent it to members of the underground bands? they want to play in the basement. Cheers Gary

Posted by Lisa Rohner
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 22, 2009 at 9:35 am

I lived in Pleasanton all my life. Love pleasanton! But once i got married i could not afford to live in P-town. So we moved to Livermore. Pleasanton has really inspired Livermore to focus on the downtown atmosphere. Livermore has now won awards for there renovation of the downtown area. I hope Susan will let us know soon why she does not like Pleasanton anymore. " Say what is good and helpful.... and what will give ... a blessing" E.4:29

There was someone asking about a hit and run accident, where a disabled Safeway worker was injured, and the woman was asking if anyone had an update. She was from Dublin I believe. Well, several people were RUDE to her and she had this response:

"Posted by J, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, 3 hours ago

Let me get this straight-

I post a request asking for an update if anyone knows how this man is doing, and you come in here to behave like a horses behind and screw with me for it?

You are a class A jerk "unclehomer"

So, this is a fine example of some of the arrogant behaviors and plain nasty uncaring attitude of our fine Pleasanotn residents, once again! A disabled man, who worked for a living was injured in a hit and run, and people are giving another concerned citizen crap fro asking how he is doing?

I see these attitude every day in town, at the local grade schools, at restaurants and certainly on these forums. I just do not get it?

I think some Pleasanton folks (mostly conservative) have serious entitlement issue's and they are flat out pissed that the economy is down and we have a Liberal President! Waaa!

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 22, 2009 at 11:45 am

Heavens to Betsy. This discussion sure has turned into much more than what I ever thought it would.

Sadly it now seems that there is an impostor present in the discussion posing as me. I'll refer to her as the "cookie baking granny" (as I pointed out earlier) in any future postings that I feel she may be imposing on. I will let you know.

I also want to inform the collective energies here and kind and legitimate folks in this discussion (you know who you are, darlings) that I am the real Susan, and moderator of my topic on what has me "embarrassed" about being a "Pleasantonian". I will reveal my comments on the matter real soon! I promise.

Kudos to your patience, sincerity, and honesty. My kettle is whistling and my flowers need pruning...Back in a while.

PS, Sara I am not familiar with that post but it sure sounds like one of the reasons for my embarrassment. I will look for it. Poor Safeway employee...I hope they're ok.

Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2009 at 11:52 am

Comments like this one reflect an attitude prevalent in this community:

"It's very difficult to take your rants seriously when you can't complete a sentence, let alone spell correctly. It's like debating a public grammar school child. Get out of my sandbox and take your kitty litter with you."

I read this type of "effective communication" all the time here. And this type of attitude is displayed in public here in a lessor manner!

Has anyone here ever heard of Non-violent communication, by Marshall?

How the heck do we expect our kids to act, when we act like idiots our selves?

No wonder these kids hanging around down town are so rude and disrespectful!

This makes me embarrassed to be a Pleasanton community member!

Things have really changed around town since prior to the economy melt down and the pre pre election times!

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 22, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Just like the posts from yesterday when I was out of town, I did not post this a few minutes ago? Anon, Yes I have been involved with Marshal for years, good stuff! Sara, that's truly a shame and just another great example. Thank You!

Perhaps "The All Knowing" has something to do with this???

If it makes you happy and releases your frustrations, whoever you are, feel free to continue. There is room for two of us here I suppose? Although that makes things rather confusing and it's not really very productive. maybe someone is upset by this discussion? Tell us what is upsetting you, please.

"Posted by Susan, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, 7 minutes ago

Heavens to Betsy. This discussion sure has turned into much more than what I ever thought it would.

Sadly it now seems that there is an impostor present in the discussion posing as me. I'll refer to her as the "cookie baking granny" (as I pointed out earlier) in any future postings that I feel she may be imposing on. I will let you know.

I also want to inform the collective energies here and kind and legitimate folks in this discussion (you know who you are, darlings) that I am the real Susan, and moderator of my topic on what has me "embarrassed" about being a "Pleasantonian". I will reveal my comments on the matter real soon! I promise.

Kudos to your patience, sincerity, and honesty. My kettle is whistling and my flowers need pruning...Back in a while.

PS, Sara I am not familiar with that post but it sure sounds like one of the reasons for my embarrassment. I will look for it. Poor Safeway employee...I hope they're ok."

This is so classic! How did I miss this thread? The collective energies of the mature, educated, Pleasantonian's who claim to have all these great values and beilif systems. It's NO wonder why you are most likely unemployed!

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 22, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Ahha, the "cookie baking granny" strikes again. About an hour ago. Have a look at "her" posting here.

"Posted by Susan, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, 1 hour ago

Just like the posts from yesterday when I was out of town, I did not post this a few minutes ago? Anon, Yes I have been involved with Marshal for years, good stuff! Sara, that's truly a shame and just another great example. Thank You!

Perhaps "The All Knowing" has something to do with this???

If it makes you happy and releases your frustrations, whoever you are, feel free to continue. There is room for two of us here I suppose? Although that makes things rather confusing and it's not really very productive. maybe someone is upset by this discussion? Tell us what is upsetting you, please."

This impostor can seem quite convincing to those who don't know me personally. And what a shame! She/he must really be confusing the other poor folks who only want to voice their concerns and "embarrassments" like I do. I'll chalk this up as yet another "embarrassment"???

Sorry Anon, I have not heard of Marshall as the "cookie baking granny" may have led you to believe. But it does sound intresting. Thank you for your insight. I'll try one of those Giggle searches and see what I find on the topic.

Anon mentions "psuedo intellectuals with nothing to do." I couldn't agree more that that's what's got someone imposing as myself. And my heavens, is it ever so bothersome? May the kind folks of this forum generate a collective thought and wish this person off this forum!

Gary, I meant to ask you earlier...do these new confounded electric cars really make the air smell nice??? What a hoot! I would set mine to smell like snickerdoodle. I just adore the smell of fresh baked snickerdoodles!

Posted by a Saint
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2009 at 5:12 pm

"Perhaps she is out on a date wuth Cholo?"

No, Cholo is some loser in Livermore who can't afford to live in our town so that can't be it. I think the local supermarket stopped carrying Susan's favorite brand of diaper so she's now embarrassed to admit that she's reusing those soiled ones.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:00 pm

For peat sakes! The "cookie baking granny" sure is persistent and quite clever too. It looks as though "she" has gone and registered herself as "TheRealSusan".

"Posted by TheRealSusan, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, 2 hours ago
TheRealSusan is a member (registered user) of Pleasanton Weekly

O.K. problem solved, so let's see where this goes!

"Why I am embarrased to say I live in Pleasanton" shall continue.."

Lets continue to refer to her as the "cookie baking grandma", so you all know who is who. I'm really sorry this discussion has taken a turn towards such confusion. Keep the comments coming people. In spite of all the confusion there are a lot of caring contributors to this posting. Let it continue..

Posted by Amanda
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Dude! "susan" You just reposted the post that is right above yours, that was posted two hours ago! my grandmother is normally not up at 10:00 on the computer, (DUH!) although she can be trippy at times!

Nice try! I was at my grandma's house at 8:00 P.M. and I helped her registeras The Real Susan, so whatever it is you are doing, have fun and be well!

Posted by Joan
a resident of Valley Trails
on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:25 pm

I am embarrassed that we live in a city ranked number 7 for highest family income, in a town of over 50,00o residents, and we are arguing over a $200.00 parcel tax to reduce class size! And further squabbling over donations to the schools. next people will refuse to buy pizza or participate in any fundraisers!

Posted by bobart
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 pm

I posted a question around two weeks ago on the Towne Forum and much to my surprise the first response was not a kind one, actually it was rude. I wonder if the people on this sight would be so mean if it was face to face. I just do not see the point in all the anger. I love to discuss a point even if you do not agree with someone. Susan ought to turn some of you over her knee and paddle your behinds. Isn't a Forum exchanging views...?

Posted by Molly
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 23, 2009 at 8:52 am

I am embarrased to say I live in Pleasanton, because we have one of the highest per capita incomes anywhere and only a few people even viewed or commented on the new school Auction posted yesterday.

**However this "why I am embarrased to live in Pleasanton" topic has 2636 views and 109 comments!!!

The anti tax, anti G, anti Dr. Casey, anti anti, crowd is going way to far! This is an auction for the schools and OUR children and someone (Amy Taloy)has put a ton of her personal time into this. She has managed to get wonderful donations for the auction as well. This auction is very much like any number of the fundraisers at all the schools throuout the year. All CA schools have had to fund raise for years for the extra's, so NOTHING is new with this. So, WE as Pleasantonians are going to STOP contributing to any funraisers, or put down anyone who does, just to prove a point?

Is all the ANGER over how "THEY" have failed to mange the funds in the Districs going to prevent everyone form taking part in any fundraiser from here on out? Sure seems like it!

Now that makes me embarrased to say I live in Pleasanton!

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Posted by Ron
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 am

"Unclehomer- It appears you have nothing positive to add, so why do you keep coming back? You obviously don't care about the gentleman this post was about, you made that clear when you pointed out he wasn't from YOUR town. And the innocent "I just asked a question" is a load- you came in to belittle other users. Please take your condescension elsewhere"

Posted by Working with your kids
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jul 23, 2009 at 7:05 pm

I love this thread.
I hope that Susan is not letting the viewpoints of the negative people influence how she feels about living in Pleasanton.
I am a teacher in the district and while it does get hard hearing the negativity sometimes I know that we are working really hard to give these kids the best education we can. We are trying to promote good citizenship in addition to strong academics. It's not perfect, some people are really mean and don't buy in. But those of us who do buy in and truely love this place and truely care for these kids can not let the attitudes of the apethetic and angry people bring us down. Our job is hard enough as it is.
There is so much good here in town, I wish I had the time to share with you all the fantastic things we see these kids do. Not to mention how much the community does to support us.
So no, I am not embarrased to live in Pleasanton. There is room for improvement for sure, maybe the people who are so unhappy will find the kindness of a stranger here in town and their attitudes will change? Hopefully by continuing to show kindness and compassion we will change the tone of the small group of negative people. We do not have to agree on everything but we can agree to be kind and generous.

Posted by Jane
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Jul 23, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Attitudes like in the following post, that came from I suppose some Pleasanton resident make me really embarrassed!

"Posted by Deb, a resident of the Bridle Creek neighborhood, 1 hour ago

Cholo you fit all the stereotypes of Livermore. You don't have the right to call me missy deb. If you want to be a tramp stay in Livermore off the Pleasanton board. Too bad you weren't in the line of fire."

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 23, 2009 at 11:40 pm

Ok so Susan now with all this blaw blaugh blog You will be able to write a Book "Blaugh Blaw Blog about Pleasanton" with the Royalties you make you will want to invest in Real Estate; and the others wanting to move in or out of Town can look me up at: Schwagerle REALTORS .com Web Link Free Search Engines & under Featured Listings is what I'm working on. Sincerely, Gary Schwaegerle Residency in Pleasanton began in 1968, REALTOR Since 1980

Posted by A happy Pleasantonian
a resident of Valencia
on Jul 24, 2009 at 9:59 am

I never post comments, but I feel compelled to do so here. This is not really a response to Susan's original topic, and I am still waiting for her to reveal why she is embarrassed to live in Pleasanton. I have my guesses, but I would like to hear what she ultimately has to say, if she is actually going to say it. This is more in response to "Working With Your Kids" comment. I totally agree with you! We moved to Pleasanton 11 years ago from another Bay Area town. I wasn't happy with our former neighborhood or the schools there. In contrast, I have been so happy living here, and I feel we gave our son a gift to be able to grow up in such a nice, safe, family oriented community. The teachers and the schools offer something to our children that other communities do not, a sense of pride and caring about the quality of what they do. We go downtown on the weekend for dinner, or coffee, or the Farmer's Market, and my husband and I still comment about what a great place Pleasanton is, and how lucky we are to live here. Even going to the grocery store or the mall is more pleasant here. Of course, as "Working" mentioned, it is not perfect, and some people will be rude and negative wherever you go. And, as Susan has probably witnessed (if she is real) I'm sure it has changed a lot in the last X number of years. But still, look around at all that's positive here: great schools, teachers, parks and neighborhoods; a sense of safety and community; a nice downtown that offers events and is just a friendly place to hang out. Personally, I feel fortunate and proud to have the opportunity to call this place home.

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 24, 2009 at 10:30 am

G'morning, Pleasanton!

Sorry, no energy from me yesterday. I was laid up after having a pesty corn removed from my heel. UG! My foot is MUCH better today though...could be these magnificent pain killers that my "doc" gave me. This strong hickory cane an old lover left behind years ago sure helps me walk stronger too! Either way, it looks like our discussion still has momentum. Yippie!

And I see the "cookie baking granny" is still around posing as me too. Bless "her" heart. She means well.

Oh Gary, you're a hoot with that idea for "Blaugh Blaw Blog"! Can you imagine? It's not a bad idea, seriously. I can probably sell it down at Farmer's Market, you think? Along with my homemade snickerdoodles?

Allen, you've made my day. Bless you and your daughter.

Happy Pleasantonian, thank you for your posting. Many have touched on "rude" and "negative" people and you're right, we will run into that ANYWHERE we go. But that's not the reason for my embarrassment.

Posted by TheRealSusan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 24, 2009 at 12:48 pmTheRealSusan is a registered user.

Hi "Susan" are you having fun? I like your style I must say.
I am wondering if the "susan" impostor is either (The All Knowing)or (Gary Schwaegerle)or (Amanda my granddaughter)or(my dear friend Alice)or perhaps (Jennifer Hosterman)or even (Jeb Bing)???Hmm? Well... Being the real Susan who started this thread, I guess I am the only one, besides Amanda that truly know that I am indeed, The Real Susan. It doesnt much matter anyways as their is room for all here.

I agree, Happy Pleasantonian, great post! As I said I do not intend to leave Pleasanton, nor do I think it's a bad town by any means, I am just "embarrassed to say I live in Pleasanton"!!

Very interesting posts yesterday to say the least. Yes, it is odd that this discussion continues to have great participation and other quite serious topics are overlooked for the most part.

There is some news coming down from both the White House as well as the State Of California this week that will create even more of a stir than Measure G or any other trivial area of concern lately.

And you folks thought we have had some heated discussions so far?

I can't even imagine how folks will react!

If you are embarrassed to say you live in Pleasanton, or embarrassed by some of the behaviors displayed within the community, PLEASE state that. If you are overjoyed, thrilled and just ecstatic about Plesanton and the community at large, PLEASE state that as well.

I am taking notes and working on my own promised dissertation in the mean time.

Be well, accept the joys along with the disappointments and have a great day.

Posted by Jamie
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jul 24, 2009 at 4:57 pm

I think this needs to be here as it describes some of why I am embarrassed at SOME of the arrogant high and mighty attitude that SOME people here in town display. I have been to many other Cities as I travel on a sports team and I wholeheartedly agree that we have some serious ATTITUDE here in our sheltered upscale Pleasanton.

The great Political and Racial Divide of 2009
State, National, International, posted by Ron, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, 17 minutes ago
The great Political and Racial Divide of 2009 is SO evident as Blacks and whites, Democrats and republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, are so focused on their differences, rather than similarities.

Reading about the whole issue with the Professor being arrested in his own home, in which the police officer walked right in,(even though the police report says public property)for using his constitution free speech rights (ya right) and this has sparked the first of what I believe to be an avalanche of race based infighting and controversy.

It worries me and I voted for Obama. Clearly America is not ready for a black president (who is equally white mind you) and I had feared this like many had.

The race card is claimed on the right and racial profiling is claimed on the left.

Subtly in most cases, there is a conservative hate and resistance to having a liberal BLACK president, of the United States O America.

The Right Wing news pundits all but make mockery of Obama ancestry, citizenship and go as far as making mildly racial jokes.

Rush and Buchannon have stated publicly that the Constitution and America was founded by WHITE people and that there is no place for Sotamyer in the Court and no place for "undocumented" Obama in the WHITE house.

The racial jokes are all over the Internet and even come from public popular news pundits. Conservative web sites are all but calling for a coup or civil war.

What started as a historic advance forward has turned into throwing us back to a time of political and racial divide without question.

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Posted by Sarah, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, 0 minutes ago

Get ready Tri-Valley...the thugs living west of us are coming over the hills. BART will only get them over here faster!

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Posted by J, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, 7 hours ago

Glad to see that there was no injury reported. The car can be replaced-he could have been injured if he had put up a fight.

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Posted by SteveP, a resident of the Parkside neighborhood, 7 hours ago

SteveP is a member (registered user) of Pleasanton Weekly

True regarding BART, although more desparate criminals than ever will come to the areas they think are prime targets. It will only get worse.....especially if the Tri-Valley area is forced to build more 'affordable' housing. Then, the thugs won't even have to take BART.

Posted by Jamie
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jul 24, 2009 at 5:08 pm

This was what I meant to quote from the story about the car jacking:

"Get ready Tri-Valley...the thugs living west of us are coming over the hills. BART will only get them over here faster!"

"True regarding BART, although more desperate criminals than ever will come to the areas they think are prime targets. It will only get worse.....especially if the Tri-Valley area is forced to build more 'affordable' housing. Then, the thugs won't even have to take BART."

"Looks like the picked on the wrong 53 year old. I am 53 and carry a concealed 38 special with me at all time and would have blown him to hell and back and not thought a second about it."

"Curious, interestingly enough I drive a blue Volkswagen and do not blow away innocent bystanders. I use police hollow points so not many rounds would be necessary only one shot would do the trick."

99.999% of Pleasnaton kids who go away to college, go to Large Cities and Small Towns, very much unlike Pleasanton.

Should we carry concealed weapons? Or should we just NOT go to college because we will be around potential danger, lower class people, mass transit where "thugs" and other low class people are.

Or better yet, perhaps we should build an iron fence around P-Town and have guarded entrances?

SOME of you "adults" make NO sense at all! And I have to admit that SOME of my friends parents REALLY can be snobby, rude and embarrassing! Even racial at times!

Posted by Jen
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jul 24, 2009 at 5:12 pm

Embarrassment is an emotional state experienced upon having a socially or professionally unacceptable act or condition witnessed by or revealed to others. Usually some amount of loss of honour or dignity is involved, but how much and the type depends on the embarrassing situation. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embarrassed

Posted by bobart
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jul 24, 2009 at 8:32 pm

I truly think you can live in the same town and see things so differently. When you look at the hills some people see the flowers bloom and some people see the weeds. I have only lived in Pleasanton for 15 years but visited almost weekly since 1972. Times have changed no matter where you live. I will stay and take small steps to try to help improve it.

Posted by TheRealSusan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 26, 2009 at 5:41 pmTheRealSusan is a registered user.

"Posted by bobart, a resident of the Danbury Park neighborhood, on Jul 24, 2009 at 8:32 pm

I truly think you can live in the same town and see things so differently. When you look at the hills some people see the flowers bloom and some people see the weeds. I have only lived in Pleasanton for 15 years but visited almost weekly since 1972. Times have changed no matter where you live. I will stay and take small steps to try to help improve it."

Bobart, great way of looking at life! Yes the momentum may be slowing, however we have all had a chance to give input and think a little bit.

I have been busy with a project with my grandchildren this week end and I will gather my thoughts and reveal my own summary early this week.

Posted by Jen
a resident of California Somerset
on Jul 26, 2009 at 8:00 pm

Well with almost 3000 page views and 130 posts, I would not quite say this thread has lost its momentum.

Someone posted today about the Gov looking into MORE private security contracts "mercenarys" for Afghanistan and NO ONE responded!

We need private security firms to protect our MILITARY bases the article that I read says! That makes a whole lot of NO sense to me?

Anyways, I am a bit embarassed about our community on line news group and all the topics and bickering:

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Part of the reason this particular thread has had so many views is that for some weird reason it was singled out about a week ago in the "Local News" section on the CNN.com home page for those of us who have put in East Bay zip codes and use CNN as our home page. I'm sure many, like I did, only came to Pleasanton Weekly because we saw it on CNN.com.

I'm not making a value judgement on this thread or any other thread, just pointing out one reason why this one has so many more views than other threads on the same bulletin board.

Posted by Elton
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2009 at 11:04 pm

Anon,

"Posted by Anon, a resident of Dublin, 1 hour ago

Part of the reason this particular thread has had so many views is that for some weird reason it was singled out about a week ago in the "Local News" section on the CNN.com home page for those of us who have put in East Bay zip codes and use CNN as our home page. I'm sure many, like I did, only came to Pleasanton Weekly because we saw it on CNN.com.

I'm not making a value judgement on this thread or any other thread, just pointing out one reason why this one has so many more views than other threads on the same bulletin board. "

Could you claify a bit? This P-Town Weekly Topic and or Thread was featured and or linked on CNN.com?

Perhaps there is more to this Susan, than meets the eye??

Ah, who the heck knows at this point. It is a rather interesting conversation though.

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 26, 2009 at 11:34 pm

Holy Moses this things still running, just had to check before retiring for the nite. Let's get a life go to work make money so we can pay taxes & help the world. How about Individual Responsibility that goes for Everyone, Lenders Banks, Politicians & Car makers. Be Fiscally Responsible and accountable like Pleasanton does. Lets Debate these: 1. How about this Lenders clean up your own mess from the funny money 1.5-2.5% loans (don't accept Govt $) - GM, Auto Makers make an Eco Friendly car to compete with Toyota & Honda. Thanks USA for letting in the Swatch Watch Car the Smart cute car.
Ahhhh forget it just sign the Song from Oakland "Be Happy don't Worry" - Hey Make it a Great Day - Today is the 1st Day of the rest of Your Life Cheers! Good Job Susan's You really started something.

Posted by Not Susan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2009 at 6:58 am

It's interesting that so much energy is being spent on this particular thread waiting for ten days now for TheRealSusan to gather her thoughts. It seems to me that what is embarrassing is that this thread exists at all. I imagine many towns have plusses and minuses worth celebrating or complaining about. What message are we sending to someone looking to move here? Maybe we should change the sign on Main Street to, "Pleasanton, we hate it here; just ask us."

Elton - if you go to CNN.com and make it your home page (even if you do so temporarily) you can put in your local ZIP code, and there will be a small box towards the bottom of the screen labeled "Local News." Inside that box, there will be 4-5 headlines that it appears are randomly pulled from local online news sources. For my ZIP code, the local news sources are usually the Contra Costa Times, the Mercury News, and Bay Area Insider. Sometimes, however, there are smaller sources in there. Today, for instance, for some reason there are two headlines from the Danville Weekly and one from The Daily Advertiser, whatever that is. About a week ago, this "Why I'm embarrased to live in Pleasanton" showed up as a headline in my Local News box. Curious, I clicked on it and it brought me directly to this thread. I suspect many of the 3000 views came in via CNN, took a look and said, "who cares" and left. Others, like me, may have come in several times, having been foolishly hooked the first time, to see if Susan ever "revealed" her promised big "reward" at the end. I'm quite sure "TheRealSusan" had nothing to do with putting it on CNN.com - it appears to be a random search of local headlines. Hope that clarifies it for you.

Posted by Jen
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Jul 27, 2009 at 10:06 am

"Posted by Not Susan, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, 3 hours ago

It's interesting that so much energy is being spent on this particular thread waiting for ten days now for TheRealSusan to gather her thoughts. It seems to me that what is embarrassing is that this thread exists at all. I imagine many towns have plusses and minuses worth celebrating or complaining about. What message are we sending to someone looking to move here? Maybe we should change the sign on Main Street to, "Pleasanton, we hate it here; just ask us."

Not Susan,

This has been a very good and enlightening topic, considering all the craziness around town prior to and post election.

What do we need to hide our communication style or core majority
consevative beliefs as a community for?

Considering just how level headed everyone has been, I think that may be an attraction to someone considering moving to the community?

I don't think anyone has said "Pleasanton, we hate it here; just ask us."
But rather, we have been discussing potentially embarrassing communication and behavior of some residents. Good to bring this out in the open. Pleasanton is a wonderful community and if and when we adults can start to learn how to communicate in a "non violent" manner, all the better!

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 am

Good Morning! 1/2 over and Grannie Susan's ain't up yet. Ok anon lets try a Test you say 3,000 views; lets try and add a Hit Counter with 1,000 it should count unique Hits not just page visits this blaw blaugh blog my just be amoung about 12 of us. To bad this site would not allow any HTML coding from post, I tried Cheers Make it a Great Day! Gary

Posted by Gary Schwaegerle
a resident of Downtown
on Jul 27, 2009 at 10:46 am

Dan to answer your question about Mobil Home Parks in many cases the land owners would love to develop them for higher and best use, but they are regulated by the City including rent control on space rent. This has been on the table before and where would all those people be relocated to? Mobil Home parks fulfill a great need of affordable housing.

O.K. a report on embarrassing topics that contain quite disrespectul replies and discussion on the Weekly Blog, that I assume represent Pleasanton residents?

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Posted by TheRealSusan
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Wow! That "Read it and weep" topic about the health care reform bills on fire, to say the least, my god!

"Posted by Andy, a resident of the Civic Square neighborhood, 3 hours ago

I don't think anyone has said "Pleasanton, we hate it here; just ask us.

But rather, we have been discussing potentially embarrassing communication and behavior of some residents. Good to bring this out in the open. Pleasanton is a wonderful community and if and when we adults can start to learn how to communicate in a "non violent" manner, the entire better!"

Great post and great points well taken. Great perspective and keep up with the NVC.

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Very interesting discussions on the weekly forum this last few days for sure. It seems that the election of Obama, the state of the economy, the P-Town school issues and heath care reform have created some very deep feelings for people?

I am wondering why the need to be disrespectful and so confrontational in these discussions and weather or not the anonymous conditions here is promoting a release of serious pent up angers and frustration.

My own personal reasons for "my embarrassment to say I live in Pleasanton" is
Becoming even more clear, as I continue to read the posts. As are the discussions taking place in person in the circles I associate, which are wide spread.

However, as Andy stated I think, Pleasanton is a wonderful community and a great place to live. I think we just need some better release outlets for the frustrations, better coping and communication skills, more respect for other and the list goes on.

Posted by TheRealSusan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 27, 2009 at 1:54 pmTheRealSusan is a registered user.

I want to add briefly here that I am involved with seniors in Palo Alto, Pleasanton, Alameda, San Ramon and Dannvile on a regular basis. I am exposed to non senior adults, as well as school age children on a regular basis as well. So I would like to think that I am getting a fairly wide perspective on issues, attitudes and the like.

I don't know if I have discussed my personal political affiliation and if I have not, I will shortly.

What I have noticed, is that the Pleasanton population seems to lean pretty far to the right, as compared to the other towns. It appears that the conservative base is becoming increasingly quite hostile in their manner of communicating their views and beliefs as well. Which I find odd, due to the fact that quite a few of these folks, are people who have dedicated a lot of their heart, soul, time and energy to a faith based lifestyle.

I must say, that in regard to this health care bill, the seniors can be really vocal and opinionated. Combine that with limited factual information, due to the fact that the bill is being constantly revised and being disseminated daily by people on both sides of the party lines, creating a disastrous situation for senior that may be lacking in adequate mental facilities.

Ben - Do you have your ZIP code plugged in to CNN.com so that it gives you local news? For example, right now CNN.com shows me the following headlines in a "Local News" box on the lower right just under "Local Weather":

You'll note that there is another Pleasonton Weekly article showing right now. Last week it was linking to this thread. It's possible you never logged in when that link was showing for our "Local News" as it seems to change them at random. But I find it curious that this thread has SOOO many more views than all the other threads on this board. No way that happens just because of the topic name, without some outside influence.

Posted by Vancouver Yankee
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2009 at 9:10 pm

Ted,

You are correct but what is in there is counseling start at age 60 on basically last rights and refusal of such things as fluids for survival. In addition, a team of doctors decide what type of treatment you get if any. I live in Canada and we are the model for this up here. I survived cancer last year only because I am covered in both countries. I was diagnosed in October of 2008 with a very aggressive type of cancer and saw doctors in both Canada as well as the US and both came to the same conclusion and that was it was a highly aggressive cancer. In 3 weeks I was in surgery in the US and after recovery have been back at work for months and now doing fine. I forgot to tell health Canada that I had the surgery and two weeks ago they called and said that they were trying to schedule my consultation with the doctors to suggest what type and timing of treatment. Unbelievable but unfortunately it is a true story. By the way after my surgery and after the pathology reports came back my doctor in the states told me that had they waited much longer for the surgery it would have spread and theree may have been little that they could have done.

Posted by Erin
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Jul 27, 2009 at 11:34 pm

Ted,

Thanks for the contribution and I am glad you are doing well. And I do know what you are saying about the B.C. health care system as we have relatives there.

The Heath Reform Bill as it stands is in NO WAY Federal Health Care. People are getting the wrong information and are having a fit, that a left leaning black man is running the County and there are just freaking out!

My husband is an Attorney and he has read the Bill in entirety. He continues to read the amendments as well. The information being stated by certain groups is totally off base and inaccurate. Thereby are reading legal terminology out of context.

This bill is endorsed by Kaiser and most in the medical profession and if tweaked a bit more, is actually a good thing.

By the way, we are ALREADY paying TRIPLE for illegal to use the ER, than we would be paying under the proposed system, like it or not.

There are NO "death counselors" and there is neither "euthanasia", nor do the "doctors make all of anyone's medical decisions" AND finally the Government does NOT decide your treatment or care.

NVC, Non-Violent Communication, originally taught by Marshall Rosenthall, is not a new concept. Many big businesses, Prisons, troubles youth programs, colleges, and Pleasanton School District teach the NVC principals.

It's the P-Town adults that should check out a copy of the book and consider the principals.

Thanks Susan for originally bringing up NVC. Perhaps your training and practice has been the back bone behind you calm manner and probing fro the real feelings behind the stated gripes in this town and out nation.

Posted by Renea
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jul 28, 2009 at 9:03 am

If you don't like Pleasanton move to a better neighborhood if you can find one. I don't think it gets any better than Pleasanton. How would you like to be stuck living in Hayward? I'd love to be living in Pleasanton. Don't be so ungrateful about where you live. It could be a lot worse. Think of those poor souls who live in Richmond and can't afford to get out and away from the nightly slaughter that goes on in that area. BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE AND QUIT COMPLAINING. Maybe we could send the gangs to Pleasanton for a nightly drive-by shooting and then maybe you would appreciate your neighborhood.

We moved here from Palo Alto a few years ago and the Weekly is owned by Embarcadero Publishing Company in Palo Alto. Palo Alto Weekly has an on live version with a forum as well.

I regularly read that forum. The same major issues and topics are discusses and these are very sensitive issues. I have very rarely ever seen a post or response that was rude, belligerent, racial, or an outright attack.
This REALLY makes me wonder about Pleasantonians!

If I had a teenager, I would be VERY worried and upset about the prospect of them reading the posts in htese forums. These kids learn a form of Rosenthall's NVC, NoN Violent Communication here in Pleasanton schools, in the form of "Community Of Character" and in my childs case T.R.I.B.E.S.

We have studied NVC and used these communication skills for years as a couple and so it's very natural for us.

Are the Pleasanton parents and or other adults even aware that the Pleasanton schools teach this? Are the adults willing to learn or practice NoN Violent communication skills?

Berating and putting down people because of their political affiliation or any belief system is FUTILE!

Here are some of the posts I have read in the last 24 hours alone!

Posted by Very Concerned, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, 3 hours ago

I've read the header of this blog entry several times - "Who'd have ever guessed the first American wounded was a gay Marine" - and it bugged me, though at first I couldn't articulate way. Then it dawned on me: I really don't care what this Marine's sexuality is. I respect and honor his service to our country. I don't sit around guessing what other people's sexuality is.

Posted by Be Positive
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm

Lynn, you just have to go to the newest attacks on the schools in the post titled "I Love Pleasanton Schools $252k" to see more of what you are speaking of. Danville has the same blog site and during and after their parcel tax election, the tone and demeanor was nothing like what we are seeing here. The misinformation and "gossip" that has spread is now taken as fact, when it couldn't be further from the truth. The hostile anger towards the schools is very concerning. I am embarrassed by the lack of trust people have for a school system that is not only award winning, but constantly raising the bar on their standards and results.

My husband was laid off 6 months ago, his co-workers didn't take a pay cut in order to save his job, would you? Yet it is ok to call Pleasanton teachers greedy? If people post that they are miserable with the state of the economy, why would they want others to feel the same pain? I took a second job to help fund my donation to the schools, things are tight right now, but I can not lose sight of what I feel is a priority in our community. Giving back to the community has done a lot for my family as well, the pride and hope we feel has helped to ease the stress and worry of unemployment.

To me Susan, that is a major part of what is going on here. If this were a time of tragedy, people would (hopefully) be coming together in support. What I am seeing is "it's bad for me, so why should I help you." I don't see how anything can improve with that attitude.

Posted by Mr.Windemere
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 29, 2009 at 9:12 pm

You should be thankful that you do not live in Vallejo which is bankrupt and has a school system that has been taken over by the state. The school system in Vallejo has been bankrupt and in shambles for many years, even in the good times. Or how about Half Moon Bay, which is also facing bankrupcy. Or how about Brentwood, Mountain House, Tracy, Antioch, Vacaville, Sacramento, where your house is worth only 30 percent of what it was in 2005. Be Thankful that you live here !!!!
BE THANKFUL

Posted by We're all Pleasanton
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 30, 2009 at 9:56 pm

I've said this before, but it bears repeating, I actually love the crazy swings the opinions take on this forum.

Where else can you get the unvarnished truth from people who live all around you? You can't. People are too provincial to reveal their true thoughts to family, friends, and certainly neighbors - relationships are too important to risk over an opinion on a national policy, for example.

During the Measure G chaos, I mean campaign, no matter what function I attended everyone that was Pro G was so "open" about it and there were those that were very in-your-face about it. Then there were those that knew they had the same as another's political slant and would speak with one another behind closed doors. The pro-g bear marketers were just difficult (not all of pro-G, just those incredibly enthusiastic) to deal with and it was better to avoid it.

That said, it seemed like a lot of people could come here and really mix it up with others and fully vent or question or argue or do whatever it was that they found necessary to refine their opinions. I can recall several people stating they had just been swayed one way or another based on this forum. Of course, whether they were honest is always a question.

The point: Pleasanton is a suburb in a very educated and professional part of the state. People have STRONG opinions. I love this town, all the great people you meet and I enjoy mixing it up here on the forum as well.

At the end of the day we're all neighbors and even if I vehemently disagree with you on political issues local, state or whatever, I'd help you if you needed it and I am certain you all would do the same for me. That is why I indeed love Pleasanton and why I would encourage anyone to live here!

I'm a current Pleasanton resident and I am not embarrassed to say I live here!

Posted by Susan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Aug 3, 2009 at 11:12 am

Heavens to Betsy!

Sorry, Pleasanton...I should've noted that I'd be unavailable last week...Was playing in a national bunco tournament over in Sarasota, Fl. There are two things us old-timers adore: 1) Bunco, and 2) Florida! Now if only Pleasanton could be like Florida!

So, it looks like the "cookie baker" has been busy...I must say that she's lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut...trying to pass herself off as me...going as far as to register my name on this forum even. "She" must be grinning like a jackass in a cactus patch! I'll tell you what, it makes me madder than an old wet hen - her imposing. I'm sure it's got a lot of the good folks in this discussion ornery as fried toads. I sure do apologize for the confusion. You know, there never was a cowboy that couldn't be throwed! I'd like to jerk a knot in her tail!

Anyway, I don't normally talk like this but darn-tootin' and tarnation! Please pardon my French. Every now and then you gotta blow off steam...Like Alyssa Milano once said in her 'Teen Steam' video, you gotta let it out! My dear Amanda turned me onto to that brilliant self-help video back in '88. Thanks, sweetheart!

So, as promised, here's my list of things that got old Susan embarrassed and compelled to start this discussion in the first place:

1) The left-behind styrofoam cup with profanity (Judas Pr#@st) etched into. I found this setting on the picnic table at Lions Wayside Park - a handful of dirt inside to weigh it down. What kind of hooligan would use such language and then leave behind this beacon of debauchery for all to see and learn from? Shame on you! Embarrassing!

3) The "holiday" lights still glowing nightly on the grove of old-growth oaks at the south end of main street. What's the message here? "Pleasanton, where it feels like Christmas all year long?" Really? Turn them off already! Embarrassing!

4) The overwhelming use of sewage deodorizer at the city sewer near the Val Vista community. It's as though the city is trying to say "Welcome to Pleasanton, our poop doesn't stink". Embarrassing! Our poop DOES stink...it's pure nature! You can't mask nature.

5) The horizontally designed street lights fixed to the geometric "arches" motif throughout the Hacienda business park. This has embarrassed me for decades now! As if Pleasanton doesn't need to conform to a universal language of street signaling. Embarrassing!

6) The "in your face" religious barkers on the corner of Main and West Angela. Sam Hill! You can't build a relationship with a hammer! What would Jesus do? Down-right embarrassing!

And finally...

7) Tennis balls on my walker! I just can't believe a fine doctor in Pleasanton would still fit my drag-legs with day-glow green Wilson tennis balls. Embarrassing! I never cared much for the sport either. I'd like to thank Amanda for her brilliant idea of spray painting the glowing green balls a more dignified matte pewter. Thank you sweetie pie!

There you have it, P-Town! It's been a long-time-coming, I know. Revel in my embarrassment and let me know if you too feel the same about this once dignified and proud community we call home.

Posted by bobart
a resident of Danbury Park
on Aug 10, 2009 at 8:53 am

Let's get some positive going...! Has anyone been to visit the new kid store Your Stage Toys. The place is great and the owners are so friendly. Recently there was a 10 year old "garage band" there that did the old Kinks song "You Really Got Me". Then there's the dog friendly store Murphy's Paw. Another friendly owner. When I lost a purse she called stores I had been to so I didn't have to wonder blocks in the 100's until she found it. Also Berry Patch another friendly owner. These people have great businesses that are trying to make a go of it during tough times. I have no connection to any of them, not a dog or a kid in the house but when I need a present they are the first place I think of. Plus you get personalized service.