I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

170/3.6x. At one below the other.

Would it help?

Can't hurt, but I'd say you have a pretty good shot regardless.

ohpobrecito wrote:

megagnarley wrote:

Nelson wrote:

megagnarley wrote:Any thoughts on how important a Why Penn is?

I didn't submit one originally and am UR2. Too late? If it will help I'll do it now.

Depends on your numbers. Are you below the medians? Probably not that important. Are you at the medians? Probably not that important. Are you above both medians or 75ths? Pretty crucial since you're gonna get YP'd.

I've been looking for information regarding held EDers but I'm not seeing much from previous cycles. It seems like in the past Penn would either accept or ding almost all of the EDers. A lot were held this year... I doubt anything will come of it, but it does seem to be unusual.

Crowing wrote:I've been looking for information regarding held EDers but I'm not seeing much from previous cycles. It seems like in the past Penn would either accept or ding almost all of the EDers. A lot were held this year... I doubt anything will come of it, but it does seem to be unusual.

Let me know if you find anything out. I was held 12/12 and still haven't heard a thing. Seems like fewer apps and having ED2 for the first time may be factors, but with the three month anniversary of my hold coming up I wish there were some stats to go on.

Crowing wrote:I've been looking for information regarding held EDers but I'm not seeing much from previous cycles. It seems like in the past Penn would either accept or ding almost all of the EDers. A lot were held this year... I doubt anything will come of it, but it does seem to be unusual.

Let me know if you find anything out. I was held 12/12 and still haven't heard a thing. Seems like fewer apps and having ED2 for the first time may be factors, but with the three month anniversary of my hold coming up I wish there were some stats to go on.

I think ED round 2 may have made ED round 1 a bit more competitive this year. Maybe I'm wrong since there isn't much data on this but it does seem like there were a lot more held ED people this year.

The only thing I know for sure is that held ED applicants are reviewed on a rolling basis.

Extrapolating from how other schools treat held applicants and how Penn has treated held ED in the past cycles, my prediction would be that we aren't going to hear back until late March. Up until then, applicants with >median GPA/LSAT are going to get accepted. Even though we are considered under a rolling basis, I think their main concern is getting through all applications (twice) before April/May. Most likely, they probably have an "overview" of all applicants and won't individually consider us again until everyone else has been reviewed. There may be a last small wave of acceptances for borderline candidates at the end of march (like previous cycles). However, because this cycle is unpredictable, things may be much more different. I'm not sure if we still get a a boost for being ED (but I hope so!)This is all speculation, based on what I read on TLS. I might be totally wrong and we might hear back this week for all I know (hopefully).

Anyway let me know what you guys think or if any of you have information for ED held people! Good luck!

I just got the aid email as well. I hope this doesn't mean I'm out of the running for the Toll Scholarship... anyone know? Anyone else who applied for Toll get a financial aid decision yet?

I got a big fat zero -- said I don't qualify for any need money (you know, because apparently my retired parents will be using their pension and/or selling their house to finance my legal education?) and there is no mention of a merit aid decision, which I assume means zero too... (For those of you who got merit aid, was it mentioned in the same Decision Letter as your need aid?)

Ugh. Looks like there is no way I'll be attending Penn unless I somehow get the Toll.

risa wrote:I just got the aid email as well. I hope this doesn't mean I'm out of the running for the Toll Scholarship... anyone know? Anyone else who applied for Toll get a financial aid decision yet?

I got a big fat zero -- said I don't qualify for any need money (you know, because apparently my retired parents will be using their pension and/or selling their house to finance my legal education?) and there is no mention of a merit aid decision, which I assume means zero too... (For those of you who got merit aid, was it mentioned in the same Decision Letter as your need aid?)

Ugh. Looks like there is no way I'll be attending Penn unless I somehow get the Toll.

I got the aid email as well.

I'm pretty sure this was need-based only and merit will come separately. I got some money, but it was a very specific amount and doesn't say anything about merit at all.

"Your financial aid application has been received and reviewed by the Office of Admissions and Financial Aid. Unfortunately, you do not qualify for need-based financial assistance (grant) from the Law School. Our review indicates that your financial need can be met through a combination of your personal resources and federal/private student loans."

My review indicates that I will not be attending penn next year, unless merit comes some other way.