Glyph of Burden of Guilt causes Judgment to reduce the target's movement speed by 50% for 2 seconds.

just leaving this here.

Turns out they're just getting a fear without CD that has 1.5 sec CD before haste.

Thanks for the clarification, but i'd still like to know why they're buffing the rets

Edited by freshfreefly, 08 August 2013 - 04:34 PM.

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GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

Wait so they're just getting a fear without CD that has 1.5 sec CD before haste?

Thanks for the clarification, but i'd still like to know why they're buffing the rets

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GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

you think? i think a fear without CD would be a lot stronger than removing some CD on HoJ.

we'll see =)

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GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

Im pretty sure hes talking about the glyph that made the dream of rets a true thing, a slow without losing their First of Justice, ret glyphs sucks anyway

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

How can you even compare the two....Hungering cold had a relatively short range. All people had to do was run out of range.

The rets fear has a 20 yard range (compared to 10 yards with DKs hungering cold), and has a much shorter cast time than hungering cold. 1.5 seconds BEFORE haste is integrated in. Considering rets stack haste after strength you can expect that cast to be closer to a 1 second cast time.

Also hungering cold broke on ANY damage. Fear as we all know takes quite a lot of damage before it breaks. We can even expect rets to use this on healers when going for a kill on them.

I honestly think that this will be a very strong ability. More than anything I think it will open them up to more comps.

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

How can you even compare the two....Hungering cold had a relatively short range. All people had to do was run out of range.

The rets fear has a 20 yard range (compared to 10 yards with DKs hungering cold), and has a much shorter cast time than hungering cold. 1.5 seconds BEFORE haste is integrated in. Considering rets stack haste after strength you can expect that cast to be closer to a 1 second cast time.

Also hungering cold broke on ANY damage. Fear as we all know takes quite a lot of damage before it breaks. We can even expect rets to use this on healers when going for a kill on them.

I honestly think that this will be a very strong ability. More than anything I think it will open them up to more comps.

was nerfed to 1.7 seconds a few patches ago.as for "u suck if a ret fears you" thats where dev aura and bubble will come in handy. with bubbly glyph providing a heal based on dispels, spamming flash heal immediately into a bubble wont be as necessary anymore. glyph of burden being a 2 second slow also meshes well with a 1.7 second-minus-haste cast when your target is not within interrupt range

was nerfed to 1.7 seconds a few patches ago.as for "u suck if a ret fears you" thats where dev aura and bubble will come in handy. with bubbly glyph providing a heal based on dispels, spamming flash heal immediately into a bubble wont be as necessary anymore. glyph of burden being a 2 second slow also meshes well with a 1.7 second-minus-haste cast when your target is not within interrupt range

I am not sure where you are getting the 1.7 second cast time from. I just checked on the PTR, and my cast time is at 1.24 seconds in full gear.

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

so your saying locks shouldn't land one fear since they are trained? and if they do you are bad?

It's funny because the people telling me that i'm stupid and retarded etc. are the people who play ret paladins and they are all playing it around 2100-2200. Why would you not want an 8 second fear with 1.24s cast time fully geared? You already have an aura mastery and AoE CC for anybody near you, really shouldn't be hard landing these out of HoJes / blinds / traps.

All i'm saying is that i don't see why rets need to be buffed right now, to me it seems like right now they are just a worse version of ferals but still majorly OP.

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GUYS GUYS GUYS IM RUNNING IN I GOT A FEAR OFF THAT!!! Oh wait Tremor... OK OK OK Guys I got another full fear off that!!! Aw shit nimble, OK GUYS GUYS GUYS I SWEAR I HAVE A FULL FEAR! Fuck nevermind... Will. OK OK OK NOW THIS FEAR IS FULL!!! Shit he has tremor back up omg... OK OK OK NOW I HAVE A FULL FEAR ITS FULL KILL KILL Oh whoops... prep tremor... Damnit, I got a full fear this time!!! Oh... he trinketed it... next one should be full... FULL FEAR!!! He has nimble back up WTF.

Do ret paladins ever spec into repentance? No. What happened to hungering cold after it was given a cast time? Ret paladins are tunneled most games, if you ever let one get a fear off you deserve to lose.

This. Unless you're running like Rsham/Magi/Ret or something similar with plenty of stun DR and control DR, the talent isn't going to be chosen. That isn't considering the fact that even when you run a comp that could make use of the fear DR, it won't be optimal against teams with tremor, or even undead priest teams in all honesty. It's simply better to have the reliable, instant stun for most comps.

I'll certainly be trying it out. My alt is a Magi so im already used to the casted CCs. Honestly only forsee myself taking this talent against certain comps and only when running a very small handful of comps.