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Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

How much would we really improve with Curry over Collison? They are both crappy defenders, and while I will concede that Curry is probably the better overall player, it is a marginal upgrade. Factoring in what we would have to trade away to acquire him, it's just not worth it. So I guess count me out on Curry.

For what it's worth, Josh Smith is not a franchise player. He is a second or third option on a good team who just happens to fit well with our current roster. He wouldn't make us a title contender (obviously), but no one we have any real chance of acquiring will vault us into contender status.

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Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

just a dissenting opinion. fwiw

there are maybe 12 or 15 PG's better than DC. and also better than curry. if you listed all the PG's in order of best to worst, there would be maybe 2 guys in between them. curry just isn't that much better than DC to make an expensive offer for him. plus he is little just like DC. with the same defensive problems. different offensive skills, but not that much different.

pacers don't need a different average PG, they need a top 5, top 10 PG type. someone a lot better than what they have. not just a little better.

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

so his offensive proficiency means nothing? Because you can never have too many guys that can drop 40 on an opponent in a moments notice.

We need players to play defense. We have offensive firepower. We don't a PG who can drop 20 and then allow 20 on the other end from the other PG. We need players to score and play D. A Point guard specifically. Pass > Shoot > Swipe

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

since when was anthony johnson a career 43.5% 3pt shooter, 91% ft shooter, 47% fg%? johnsons best season in terms of ppg, apg, spg, rpg, fg%, 3pt%, ft% has never even eclipsed curry's career averages in those numbers. and i think the majority of people who trash curry's defense, really haven't even watched the kid play. curry is very fundamentally sound defensively and typically is giving 100% effort.

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

and i think the majority of people who trash curry's defense, really haven't even watched the kid play. curry is very fundamentally sound defensively and typically is giving 100% effort.

This is one thing I love about Curry though. He does play his heart out. I love his natural speed with the basketball. He is very much under control and attentive when playing with the ball. He has the height on DC by about 3 or 4 inches, but he just needs to gain strength. I think Curry is a definite upgrade over DC, because I see DC's biggest strength fading faster (quickness). I agree with some of the others here though, that I doubt we are a much better team with the assets we would have to give up to acquire him.

I think Josh Smith is a much better target in terms of "bang-for-your-buck" in what he would bring us.

No matter what moves we make in the off-season, I think we need to make sure that whoever we bring in must be a significant upgrade. If it is not significant, we are much better off standing pat and allowing the young talent continue to improve and maintain our cap space until the right deal comes along. We will need to use some of that space for our own guys, so there is no rush to just make a move. If Curry is the guy we want, then great go after him, but are we going to have to pay such a heavy premium for the marginal upgrade. Same with Tyler and Josh. They seem to be getting better by the game. Rush, Price, and George continue to show progress. With improvement over the next year, we might have a lot more value out of the assets we already have. I would try to re-sign McRoberts and Foster on a veteran minimum. Other than that, I don't think making a move for a guy like Curry will save our season next year.

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

I think you have to almost build your team around him being a shooting guard in a Point Guard body. I like him, I'm just not sure it's a winning formula to construct your team around a guy who may not merit that kind of trickeration.

It's hard to say, Golden State has two guys in Monta and him that are mini shooting guards. So I don't know what he does when its just him you have to think about in building a team.

To me, for the Pacers, its not like you have a pure Point Guard now, so it's an upgrade if you think of it as replacing DC with Curry.

However, to get Curry, you have to give Granger, so I don't see the point. It seems really sideways.

Put it this way, if you trade Granger for Curry, is Curry on a better team than he is now with Golden State? I'm not thinking so.

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

I think you have to almost build your team around him being a shooting guard in a Point Guard body. I like him, I'm just not sure it's a winning formula to construct your team around a guy who may not merit that kind of trickeration.

It's hard to say, Golden State has two guys in Monta and him that are mini shooting guards. So I don't know what he does when its just him you have to think about in building a team.

To me, for the Pacers, its not like you have a pure Point Guard now, so it's an upgrade if you think of it as replacing DC with Curry.

However, to get Curry, you have to give Granger, so I don't see the point. It seems really sideways.

Put it this way, if you trade Granger for Curry, is Curry on a better team than he is now with Golden State? I'm not thinking so.

Nobody on this board should be allowed to write "trickeration"! lol
But you ask a good question though. I am not sure the Pacers would be any better either. I would rather have a defensive minded, pass first pg who can shoot and score if needed.
But Curry might be a good piece to start with. As long as other moves follow.

Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

Nobody on this board should be allowed to write "trickeration"! lol
But you ask a good question though. I am not sure the Pacers would be any better either. I would rather have a defensive minded, pass first pg who can shoot and score if needed

Me too, but I think there may not be more than a handful of these guys left in the whole league like this.

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Re: Official Trade for Steph Curry Thread

The thing about Curry is that teams would actually have to game plan against him because he is a legitimate threat to break a game wide open. While I support DC I don't think teams view him in that regard. Problem is any significant upgrade that the Pacers aquire will be pricey so getting him will have to be a calculated risk and hopefully not a lateral move like trading Granger for him.