>>1507777I quit weed over a decade ago, mostly because I was sick of dealing with the fallout from dumb shit I did while high. I wouldn't trust myself /out/ while stoned, even in relatively safe places, I was way too capable of doing really stupid shit and could totally see myself trying to climb a big rock and falling and busting my head open or some kind of similar shit.

>>1508196Also, I haven't actually found a reliable source documenting its effects. It's a thing that's just kind of "known" within the botanical community.Couldn't tell you why that is. However, its mildly sedative effects when brewed into a tea have been documented for hundreds of years now.

>>1508295I probably know the scientific names of trees better than you do my man. I had to take a dendrology class where we were required to memorize 148 different trees and give proper genus family and species with correct spelling.

Can’t think of anything worse than walking past a group of dopey looking teenagers 0.1 miles from the trailhead and then getting hit with cloud of pot smoke, after they hurriedly threw their joint away or pocketed their bowl when they saw me.

>>1507807This: >>1507869Also wormwood can be pretty abundant in much of America, which can be smoked for a mild high. Psilocybin mushrooms are basically ubiquitous but you really need to know what you're doing in order to not get yourself killed by mistaking them for say, deadly galerinas. Amanita muscaria is easy to identify, but it's a deliriant that's not especially fun (it's also neurotoxic).

When to comes to drugs I have noticed that /out/ is majority anti-drug with around 70/30 ratio against drug taking. Me personally I have taken shrooms, LSD, Cannabis, and Mescaline in the great outdoors as a meditation enhancer. I like keeping to myself so as to avoid unwanted attention. I don't bring firearms and I keep my knives and hatchet in my pack.

I am genuinely surprised by how few people here smoke. I seriously figured you were all a bunch of hippies and/or try-hards who did nothing but with a few actual cavemen laughing at them all. Also weed grows all over the place where I live so finding some while /out/ is pretty common When it's in season so if I'm gonna be out long enough to dry it out I'll make a joint from a regular cigarette.

>>1510148That's what I thought too. I mean at least tolerate pot smoking. >>1509800No offense but I find poppers to be a step below a junkie. Too many times I've seen people I know get hooked. One was one of the Thoma VA's Candyland Kids. He got off his addiction thankfully. The army vet was getting 90 325mg a month! And it was an automatic refill.

But yeah, I see what you're getting at. Opiates are indeed extremely addictive, and that's something that should be taken into consideration when doing them.And no, they're really not "one step" below a junkie, they are definitely "junkie tier", as it were. Keep in mind your heroin and oxycodone.That said, I rarely ever do opiates, or drugs in general. I rarely even drink coffee. It has more of a recreational value to me that way, if that makes any sense.

>>1510577This, people who still hate weed this much need to pull the stick out of their ass. Plus, rangers ain't gonna hike 15 miles out just to write a ticket for weed...like seriously they have better things to do...

I live in Washington state where it's legal and while you're not supposed to smoke in public, literally nobody gives a shit. People walk down the streets with pipes sometimes and I see joints and blunts daily. Police might stop you and confiscate your stuff if you're ripping a giant bong at a bus stop or something, but other than that, they literally don't have the time.

>>1507777Only on the rare occasion, when say it's a warm autumn day and everything is golden and red and there's a breeze that brings you just beyond the border between warm air and autumn coolness. At moments like that, I think fffffffyyyeeeaaa, and will vape a bit. But just a bit, not so much I'm totally gone while out in the universe.

But otherwise I don't smoke much. A couple times a month, and generally I prefer to be cozy, chillin with some tunes, munchies at hand, and my wife to bone during the come-down. I don't like having to think too hard, hiking out or whatever, while stoned because it kills the effect. I'm also slightly paranoid as I don't live in a weed-friendly country (although it's young people don't care, police still make a fuss).

>>1508337kek, I know the scene exactly. Teenagers think no one else knows or what? I would only do it if I knew I were "alone", as I don't like being high near other people.

>>1510656I've grown them in my garden before. I'm not that interested in opiates though. I used to live in a university town, whose botanical garden had several coca plant in one of the greenhouses (behind a low fence, but easy to step over when no one was around, which was almost always). I harvested a dozen seeds, and handfuls of leaves. Coca tea is pretty nice. Bitter, but you can already feel the perks, it's like coffee but without the jitters caffeine gives you. (I dunno how it compares to cocaine, never tried it, little interest)

>>1511068Just ignore him. He just wants to attach some magical power to them. It is, however, not complete and utter bullshit, as opiates can be very hard to quit permanently. Hard, but not impossible. Lots of people have quit and never touched them again.

>>1511535>>1511534Agreed, this is why I do it at all. Especially teenagers walking around stoned as fuck, I love seeing them freak out when the warden shows up, and even more when they find out rangers can arrest you just like cops, but then they argue and it just gets better.

>>1511563Texas hates weed. KY here, last time I ran into a group of 4 teens about .5miles from the trail head, all red eyes smelling like shitty weed, looking stoned as fuck. I greeted them nicely and they snickered and said hey back. As soon as they were out of site I called a tip into the rangers. Followed them back to the parking area and watched from a distance as the rangers came up and took their stash. I laughed my ass off.

>>1510694>not supposed to smoke in publiccar camping at the state park sitting on the bench looking at my phone the ranger asks me if I was smoking. I said yeah around 7 am. he says "uh..could ya do it in your car or over by the water? I dont really care if you smoke youve been here for a while not bothering anybody but a new camper called me this morning and complained about the smell"

>>1511616That is true. BUT, if you're unstable enough to create a dangerous situation when you're getting fucked up, you probably shouldn't do drugs in the first place. Contrary to popular belief, all drugs are not bath salts.

>>1514228You feel and genuinly are boiling alive, I've had 6 hours of hallucinatory conversations with people that actually span 1 hour?Cannot imagine doing it without someone to tripsit, because I genuinly felt like I was in real world, nothing was that much out of the ordinary shit was weird af

Me and a friend blew through half an ounce in three days while hiking, it was great. At one point I was packing some things into my bag and I spent ten minutes creating and rearranging the most organized and space efficient load out possible

>>1511282My brother has begun messing around with heroin though he mainly uses pain pills. I tolerated it because I myself casually smoke and do blow as well as psyches. He has made it a habit that requires him to sell large amounts of drugs to pay for the habit. He's younger than me and thinking about it makes me want to cry. I don't know why I'm saying any of this.

>>1515330I wouldn't be so casual about something like that, honestly. I know it sounds hypocritical as fuck, but opiates are kind of a different animal than you cannabinoids. I only allow myself to do opiates occasionally because I know my limits and when enough is enough.

>Between May 1, 2010, and April 1, 2015, we obtained data from 901 patients with first-episode psychosis across 11 sites and 1237 population controls from those same sites. Daily cannabis use was associated with increased odds of psychotic disorder compared with never users (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 3·2, 95% CI 2·2–4·1), increasing to nearly five-times increased odds for daily use of high-potency types of cannabis (4·8, 2·5–6·3). The PAFs calculated indicated that if high-potency cannabis were no longer available, 12·2% (95% CI 3·0–16·1) of cases of first-episode psychosis could be prevented across the 11 sites, rising to 30·3% (15·2–40·0) in London and 50·3% (27·4–66·0) in Amsterdam. The adjusted incident rates for psychotic disorder were positively correlated with the prevalence in controls across the 11 sites of use of high-potency cannabis (r=0·7; p=0·0286) and daily use (r=0·8; p=0·0109).

>>1507777weed smokers are usually the ones throwing apple cores/orange peels, building cairns, and leaving their joint butts. on the way out of a spot passed a small group of hippie looking faggots going into a somewhat secret remote canyon. returned the next day to check it out and sure enough a bunch of rocks had been kicked around and remnants of joints on the ground. if you don't respect your body why would you respect the earth?

>>1507782That has happened to me multiple times.>Falling out of my hammock and onto my Mora>Choking on my Kindle>Forget to drink my freshly brewed coffee and dieing of thirst>Setting fire to my tent>Decide to seppuku because the sunset is simply too beautiful to cope with>Relaxing too much, wont wake up>Murdered by roaming hordes of killer hobos because my ghillie suit gets in the way when smoking so I didn’t bring it

First thing every morning at day break. Honestly I’m more productive and safe when I have a puff. The world is built by potheads. I’ve worked 4 of the worlds most dangerous jobs and never had a lost time incident on any of the crews I’ve worked with. I don’t feel right running a chainsaw without a toke and a beer.

>>1516427>"Oh my GOD that SMELL!">"Will these little shits stop with the god damned DRUGS already?">"Heh, I know how to take care of this...">"Let's see how those braindead stoner punks like our friends in blue...">"Now we wait for the delicious tears of fucking idiot children as they get all their precious drugs taken away, heh heh...">Sits on a rock and watches the local rangers spend 3 hours finding the source of the disturbance>Source found: Skunks really are a menace this time of year>Has to spend another hour getting lectured by rangers about how dangerous and irresponsible it is to pull them away from their actual duties just because some cunt didn't like the smell of a skunk>"B-b-but it smelled like weed! I thought it was drugs! I'm being a good samaritan!"

>>1516443This. Stoners hurt literally no one. Rangers have a very important job to do, and chasing down stoners on the whim of some boomer fuck who thinks he's doing god's work should not be a task they should deal with.

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I like taking LSD and hike a trail I know well. Nature is truly the best teacher, and the place you want to be when taking acid. Most of you don't care, but I threw a party and someone brought magic mushrooms, everyone who took it were cowering on the corner of my bed scared to shit. Nature is where you want to be if you trip, not at a wild party.

>>1517209That's not an uncommon thing, honestly. At least as far as manual labor goes. When I smoke when I'm doing repetitive manual labor, I kind of feel that I'm more okay with doing whatever shitty job I'm doing at the time, if that makes any sense.

>>1517211That's not safe and productive, that's indulging in a vice because you literally can't make it throughout the day without a puff. I used to work with people who did that on heavy machinery and they nearly got themselves killed.

>>1517199You brain fucked retards that think pot doesn't fuck up your cognitive abilities despite all evidence to the contrary. Believe what you want, if you're stoned enough for me to notice, I'm calling the cops/forest rangers, especially on my hiking camping trails. And you are completely welcome to stay mad.

>>1517234It is very clear to me that you have never done it yourself.Also, operating heavy machinery, or machinery of any kind, for that matter, should not be done while under the influence. Your co-workers did not almost get killed by the devil's lettuce, they almost got killed by their own stupidity.You have a very childish view of this shit. Most people don't get completely fucking retarded on weed. If they do, they were probably completely fucking retarded to begin with.

>>1517251>It is very clear to me that you have never done it yourself.You're a dipshit and know absolutely nothing about how often I smoke.>Your co-workers did not almost get killed by the devil's lettuceTheir tolerance was so high that they literally couldn't make it through the day without going through a full joint every few hours. When they were on it their ability to do basic labor was impaired, otherwise they suffered from nerve-wracking anxiety and became extremely irritable.

People like you frequently attribute stoner behavior to personality flaws instead of drug abuse, primarily because you enjoy it. You're like an alcoholic who needs a drink to get up every morning and you can't even recognize it.

>>1507777Only once: I was thru hiking the north trail in Vermont last year and it was me and two other guys in a shelter one night. One of the guys pulled out a pipe and we all partook of some of the reefer. That night I got my first trail name. They both agreed that "Cheers" should be my name because I said it so much. I was raised in England so "thank you" is one of my most used phrases

>>1516310Pipes are for teenagers. Vaping is the obvious adult way to go. I use a Dynavap omnivap (the titanium XL one). Small, rugged, works with a butane torch-style lighter (mine has two jets). I didn't want to have to plug shit in, and a small canister of butane, easily tucked away in your pack, will last months.

>>1511534>>1511577Stop being meddlesome, it's poor form.>>1519819You know, friend, if there's a thread about something outside your interests, you could just scroll on past. Your presence here speaks volumes about the sort of person you are. I hope you get happier, maybe even find whatever it is that you need to fill that void you keep trying to patch with vitriol.>>1507777Absolutely occasionally.>>1510694>I'd blow smoke in your face and put my blunt out in your fucking eyes.Quit being a cunt. It's poor form.>>1516096Commonality is not causality. Those were shitty people AND they smoke weed, they were not shitty people BECAUSE they smoke weed. I'll provide an anecdote of my own, since that passes as empirical evidence around here: I'm a daily weed smoker. I field strip my cigarettes, pack out every bit of what I pack in minus consumables, and I take care to leave as close to no trace as possible. Again, I'm a decent person AND I smoke weed, not a decent person BECAUSE I smoke weed. Who put you in charge of judging others anyway, hmm? Was it God?

>>1519885Yes, you are judging them to be a cunt, based off of what theve done or said, so it qualifies. And it's not like that's the only instence, assuming you are the same anon that assumed that the other anon scarfs down beers and carbs, done read, can't speak multiple languages an so is therefor stupid. Telling people their actions are "poor form" in general would be a judgment and would therefor qualify as judging, so who gave you the right? God?

>>1520912That anon is obviously challenged. He's probably one of those assholes who think you have an alcohol problem if you have a beer on any of the work days. In other words, he's a retarded faggot.