I would say that I bet there are some Longshoreman members here that would consider that a personal attack. Elitist mentality strikes again from people that evidently don't know the history of longshoreman. It's mechanized now a lot more but at one time nothing moved in this country without them and it was one of the most dangerous jobs you could have.

I suppose Loggers and Miners, Fisherman, also fall into your imbecile category also.

To Be P/C or Not P/C That is the Question..........Seahawks kick Ass !!!! Check your PM's, Thank you for everything Radish RIP My Friend. Member of the 38 club.

FOX40 News was told Monday night by a source, wishing to remain anonymous, about a new group led by current Kings minority owner John Kehriotis. Kehriotis currently holds 12.2% of the Kings franchise.

According to the source, the group thinks it needs $750 million to buy the team and build the arena. The source, who is involved in the purchase effort, says the investment group currently has $350 million and a verbal commitment for $400. That would meet the goal.

This plan, the source says, is not site specific. The group could consider the railyards, Downtown Plaza and the current arena site in Natomas.

FOX40 News was told Monday night by a source, wishing to remain anonymous, about a new group led by current Kings minority owner John Kehriotis. Kehriotis currently holds 12.2% of the Kings franchise.

According to the source, the group thinks it needs $750 million to buy the team and build the arena. The source, who is involved in the purchase effort, says the investment group currently has $350 million and a verbal commitment for $400. That would meet the goal.

This plan, the source says, is not site specific. The group could consider the railyards, Downtown Plaza and the current arena site in Natomas.

I dont think it means anything, dudes only worth $360 million? compared to the money the Seattle group brings to the table? The NBA is going to look at that and think the best long term viability of the franchise is to go with the money team in Seattle, Sacramento's best shot is Burkle, not this guy.

It's all about the money. The NBA needs a team in Seattle. After they lost the Grizzlies they now have one area without teams that in the past had teams and supported them ( Sonics and Grizzlies) The Seahawks and Mariners also draws fans from the East states such as Idaho and Montana. A good Seattle team may well do so also.

Sacramento is a smaller media market by quite a bit. It is served by teams already. The nearest is the Warriors. I see the NBA doing what is best for the league and Media deals, and its not staying in Sacramento.

Last night the Sac city council voted to fund negotiations and exploratory type stuff regarding an arena deal with KJ's still unnamed whales (expect them to be named tomorrow). The Sac City Manager said they'd like to have a preliminary term sheet presented to the city council in April. Remember when McGinn, Constantine, and Hansen announced they had negotiated a deal before it even went through the council process? That's where Sac wants to be, and their deal is going to suck money from the general fund by using a very questionable funding mechanism through leasing their public parking to private companies for decades. Add to that there is now a second investment group with a too good to be true plan that is only going to serve as ammunition for the anti-pubic subsidy crowd and cause a ton of confusion for Sac.

pinksheets wrote:Last night the Sac city council voted to fund negotiations and exploratory type stuff regarding an arena deal with KJ's still unnamed whales (expect them to be named tomorrow). The Sac City Manager said they'd like to have a preliminary term sheet presented to the city council in April. Remember when McGinn, Constantine, and Hansen announced they had negotiated a deal before it even went through the council process? That's where Sac wants to be, and their deal is going to suck money from the general fund by using a very questionable funding mechanism through leasing their public parking to private companies for decades. Add to that there is now a second investment group with a too good to be true plan that is only going to serve as ammunition for the anti-pubic subsidy crowd and cause a ton of confusion for Sac.

I'm slowly doing a 180, with the Robinson trade, how hard sacramento is fighting for a downright terrible team, and the negative perception that will cloud seattle if we "steal a team," I'm about ready to say f it and hope we get an expansion team in a few years. The Kings are TOXIC.

Edit: Mainly talking about the state of the kings roster/in the future. I understand ownership will change and gm/coach but they owe a lot of picks, don't have a ton of cap room and have a questionable team comp that probably needs to be gutted.

4/27/13 - I was there #humblethug"He looked like a bad man," Sherman said, "and I knew we were alright."

pinksheets wrote:Last night the Sac city council voted to fund negotiations and exploratory type stuff regarding an arena deal with KJ's still unnamed whales (expect them to be named tomorrow). The Sac City Manager said they'd like to have a preliminary term sheet presented to the city council in April. Remember when McGinn, Constantine, and Hansen announced they had negotiated a deal before it even went through the council process? That's where Sac wants to be, and their deal is going to suck money from the general fund by using a very questionable funding mechanism through leasing their public parking to private companies for decades. Add to that there is now a second investment group with a too good to be true plan that is only going to serve as ammunition for the anti-pubic subsidy crowd and cause a ton of confusion for Sac.

In other words, see y'all at the Key this fall.

Beers and Nachos on me!

Where and when?:smile:

There's what I used to know, what I think I know, and what I know I know. And they all get lost in the haze sometimes.

TheRealDTM wrote:I'm slowly doing a 180, with the Robinson trade, how hard sacramento is fighting for a downright terrible team, and the negative perception that will cloud seattle if we "steal a team," I'm about ready to say f it and hope we get an expansion team in a few years. The Kings are TOXIC.

Edit: Mainly talking about the state of the kings roster/in the future. I understand ownership will change and gm/coach but they owe a lot of picks, don't have a ton of cap room and have a questionable team comp that probably needs to be gutted.

The sonics weren't (until ownership created one).I thought the kings were in good position to rebuild, gut the vets(big contracts) let the young guns play and get a high draft pick. Now they're down a tp 5 pick, a second rounder next year and who knows if they'll keep tyreke (they could have moved him)

4/27/13 - I was there #humblethug"He looked like a bad man," Sherman said, "and I knew we were alright."

These type of 'too good to be true' plans act more to muck up the focus of the serious stuff than anything else. You think KJ and his guys want talk of a supposedly public spending free plan going on right now? It's a huge distraction for their more realistic pitch and gives ammo to all of the NIMBY types.

Some of you need to stop worrying, we have the upper hand. An agreed deal, that the maloofs can't back out of, an arena plan that's far ahead any arena deal sacramento, or this dude can come up with in a months time, and we got good money writing the checks. Teams coming to Seattle, everything until the BOG meeting is just noise.

And I hereby decree that Blitzer shall stay away from all Sonics/Kings news for the next 7 days. It's for your own good, dude. KJ is going to announce the whales tomorrow, a hype train will get started, and there is going to be a lot of buzz that isn't necessarily in touch with reality. Let things settle before you get too worked up (which you know you won't so stay away! get in your panic room).

pinksheets wrote:And I hereby decree that Blitzer shall stay away from all Sonics/Kings news for the next 7 days. It's for your own good, dude. KJ is going to announce the whales tomorrow, a hype train will get started, and there is going to be a lot of buzz that isn't necessarily in touch with reality. Let things settle before you get too worked up (which you know you won't so stay away! get in your panic room).

Throwdown wrote:Some of you need to stop worrying, we have the upper hand. An agreed deal, that the maloofs can't back out of, an arena plan that's far ahead any arena deal sacramento, or this dude can come up with in a months time, and we got good money writing the checks. Teams coming to Seattle, everything until the BOG meeting is just noise.