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I currently record my OTA HD channels and SD Comcast channels using Windows MCE. I'm planning on hooking TV1 up to my HDTV, but would like to use the TV2 output to record SD channels on my Media Center PC using an IR blaster to control TV2.

I believe you can only do TV2 using UHF. I have not heard of being able to control TV2 with IR.

<strong class='bbc'>New Member of the 9K club & 922/612 User<br /></strong><span style='font-size: 8px;'>"A release is not a release until it is released." - Me. <br />"To the true believer, no proof is necessary. To the non believer, no proof is sufficient." - Peter James (Derived from a Stewert Chase Quote)</span>

Someone please verify this for me, but something that those wanting to bring cable into the "off air" input is that I don't believe that it will demodulate "cable" signals. You will only get up to channel 12 on the cable line. Anything above that would be lost.

2-13 are VHF and would be tunable IF they were in ATSC.
14-69 UHF OTA also have their counterparts on 'cable' with different numbers.
There are a lot of cable channels in the gaps between the OTA VHF channels and between OTA VHF and UHF.

The biggest issue is would any cable channels be in ATSC? That's all the 622 can handle even if it could see the channel numbers.

The biggest issue is would any cable channels be in ATSC? That's all the 622 can handle even if it could see the channel numbers.

What the industry calls an ATSC tuner is really an 8VSB tuner. When cable companies started providing digital service they did use 8VSB but they abandoned it because it was very inefficient (for cable tranmission). The standard for digital channels via cable is QAM. There is not any DBS satellite receivers on the market that have a QAM tuner and there likely never will be. There isn't any cable STB that has a satellite tuner either and there likely never will be. Cable and satellite are two competing vendors and they are not going to provide equipment to tune "the other guys" channels.

Some of the (older) satellite receivers do have NTSC tuners so they can pick up either OTA analog or analog cable channels but, as noted, the ViP622 only has an ATSC tuner for OTA digital channels.

2-13 are VHF and would be tunable IF they were in ATSC.14-69 UHF OTA also have their counterparts on 'cable' with different numbers.There are a lot of cable channels in the gaps between the OTA VHF channels and between OTA VHF and UHF.

The biggest issue is would any cable channels be in ATSC? That's all the 622 can handle even if it could see the channel numbers.

Great job. I referred to it while I was hooking up my 622 last night. I especially liked the time estimates about the downloads. It eliminated the "did it or did it not lockup" moments we always see during an initial install.

The 622, like many other units doesn't indicate when it is rebooting. the screen just goes black, you see all the LEDs on the 622 light up for a millisecond, and then you wonder whether or not it is coming back on its own or whether you have to turn it on manually. I almost miss the silver coin medallion from the 921. At least I KNEW it was booting up again, even if it did take 5 minutes to do so.

E*, on a future release I suggest giving SOME kind of visual cue to help the impatient among us know when to leave the receiver alone or not......

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." Henry David Thoreau Walden (1854)

<strong class='bbc'>New Member of the 9K club & 922/612 User<br /></strong><span style='font-size: 8px;'>"A release is not a release until it is released." - Me. <br />"To the true believer, no proof is necessary. To the non believer, no proof is sufficient." - Peter James (Derived from a Stewert Chase Quote)</span>

<strong class='bbc'>New Member of the 9K club & 922/612 User<br /></strong><span style='font-size: 8px;'>"A release is not a release until it is released." - Me. <br />"To the true believer, no proof is necessary. To the non believer, no proof is sufficient." - Peter James (Derived from a Stewert Chase Quote)</span>

I just noticed the 622 main video out is via HDMI connection. The 921 used a DVI output. Unless I'm mistaken this means another $50 (or more) out of our pockets to buy a new cable. Unless the installer will provide the cable:lol:

Don't know how valid this is, but my installer advised me to call dish and tell them thsat he did not have the HDMI cable on the truck and requesst that they send me one. Of course, I bought my own beforehand, but if I can get one from dish, I'll return the one I spent $60.00 on. Actually, if dish would just give me a credit, I'd be happy.

You can also reuse the existing cable and buy a HDMI-DVI converter for $25. I got a Monster brand one that works fine...... (But Best Buy doesn't carry the DVI Female-Male DVI you need to reuse your existing cable - you probably have to go online to find one)

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." Henry David Thoreau Walden (1854)

I just noticed the 622 main video out is via HDMI connection. The 921 used a DVI output. Unless I'm mistaken this means another $50 (or more) out of our pockets to buy a new cable. Unless the installer will provide the cable:lol:

Ouch! Not necessary to spend that much, especially on digital cables of relatively short lengths. There are lots of places on the web to get good cables very inexpensively. I personally use monoprice.com and have been very happy with the quality and the service.

I'm having the 622 installed next week. The receiver will be located in a bedroom approx. 75 feet from the dish 1000, 44 switch and VIP411 (in my living room). My questions: should I expect the installer to hook-up the phone line as part of the install? (phone outlet is 20 ft. from the receiver) Also should I expect the installer to run a 3rd coax for the OTA antenna?

[quote name='Bill R']What the industry calls an ATSC tuner is really an 8VSB tuner. When cable companies started providing digital service they did use 8VSB but they abandoned it because it was very inefficient (for cable tranmission). The standard for digital channels via cable is QAM. There is not any DBS satellite receivers on the market that have a QAM tuner and there likely never will be. There isn't any cable STB that has a satellite tuner either and there likely never will be. Cable and satellite are two competing vendors and they are not going to provide equipment to tune "the other guys" channels.

Just for reference, the 3750 is QAM and the 811 can be switched to QAM in the menu.

I had not read much about the wonderful 622's multimedia functions, but then discovered it in one of the menus. I loaded a group of digital photos onto the 622 hard drive thru the convenient usb 2 port on the front, using a simple card reader and compact flash card from my camera. After loading, I reviewed them with such greater clarity and size than on my pc monitor. Also a great slide show function. This capability should definitely be publicized! I was about to purchase a separate device for displaying large format digital photos, but saved that by having the 622!!!

That is a great idea. We didn't think about having a section on that, since at time we were focusing on new features since the 942. However, now that I think about it, the Picture feature wasn't active on the 942 when Mark wrote his 942 review so it's not in there. I'll see if we can add a section on that to a later revision.

page 26 of the review talks about audio synchronization being set to either high definition or standard definition. Can someone explain that? I have had a constant problem with audio synchronization on the Voom channels, with the audio being a fraction of a second ahead of the video. Very annoying! (I have the 942, a part in considering upgrading to the 622)

You can also reuse the existing cable and buy a HDMI-DVI converter for $25. I got a Monster brand one that works fine...... (But Best Buy doesn't carry the DVI Female-Male DVI you need to reuse your existing cable - you probably have to go online to find one)

My VIP622 was installed on 4/4/2006. I had to buy a hdmi to dvi cable to attach the receiver to my SONY 65" TV. I have been using DISH HD with a DVI connection for 1 1/2 year with no problems. For about a week, the new VIP622 worked well but, all of a sudden, the DVI signal quit working. I exchanged my $150 Monster hdmi/dvi cable for another thinking it might me a bad cable but no change.Talked with DISH support on Saturday 4/15 and they first tried to tell me i probably had a bad tv. finally, they put me on hold while they tested an hdmi/dvi cable in their lab and had similar results. they said they were able to mess with the sequence of power up in the lab and could get it to work and that may work for me on a temporary basis. They said that the engineers would be working to fix the problem and that the fix would be included in a future support download. I cant get the power up sequence to work for me so i am watching everything through the s-video connection through my VCR. This sucks. Anyone else having problems?