But admit it, you will still see the new flick and anticipate its release over the next three years or so! Just like folks have been waiting for the Hobbit and Star Trek 2 and the next Ironman flick...oh wait , I am in that group.......

I understand telling a better story bu they cannot simply revise the EU. Han and Leia do marry, Luke and Mara do marry and they have children, Chewy does die (eventually). They can't revise stuff like that.

If they plan on revising it I really hope there is enough protest that they scrap the plans completely.

I understand telling a better story bu they cannot simply revise the EU. Han and Leia do marry, Luke and Mara do marry and they have children, Chewy does die (eventually). They can't revise stuff like that.

If they plan on revising it I really hope there is enough protest that they scrap the plans completely.

Actually, yeah, they can revise to their hearts' content- just like Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars is no longer canon. And you know, given the quality of a lot of the later EU material, this Star Wars fan is perfectly fine with that. Unlike the Decalogue, the EU is not writ in stone.

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Attempting to appease the fanboys who bought all the books, magazines, comic books, video games, lunch boxes, etc. is virtually a guarantee that the new movie would suck. What is needed are writers and directors who are not particularly in love with the Star Wars franchise and who have an idea of what makes good art and good space opera in general.

The new movie may very well suck but it won't be because it violates some sacred Star Wars canon.

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They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

Attempting to appease the fanboys who bought all the books, magazines, comic books, video games, lunch boxes, etc. is virtually a guarantee that the new movie would suck. What is needed are writers and directors who are not particularly in love with the Star Wars franchise and who have an idea of what makes good art and good space opera in general.

The new movie may very well suck but it won't be because it violates some sacred Star Wars canon.

You're not a Star Wars fan, clearly. The books, magazines, comic books and the rest of the Expanded Universe is absolutely amazing, and would make for a great film! (minus the stupid emperor clone thing)

Taking into account the cataclysmic, manic butthurt that Star Wars fans have been feeling in the last 15 years, I count this as a blessing.

Between George Lucas nearly screwing up the entire franchise by his "revisions" and additions; Sony Online totally screwing up one of the best games ever (SWG), EA Games nearly killing another great game (SWTOR), and many other things, we have been severely abused and should be respected more.

The real Star Wars fans out there are just being slapped around for our money and I'm sick and tired of people who are only nominal fans trying to completely screw up the entire franchise.

They need to put real fans, fans who know the EU to contribute to the films, and not nominal idiots who have only seen the films and nothing else.

They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

I'm sorry, sir, but Star Wars is all about "stupid little kids."

We had the Ewoks, and the Ewoks are awesome.

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They need to put real fans, fans who know the EU to contribute to the films, and not nominal idiots who have only seen the films and nothing else.

Or maybe, instead of getting someone who spends all his time reading Star Wars comic books and fan fiction, get someone who saw the films but spent more time reading Milton, Dante, Homer, etc. That is, if you want a movie that isn't really dumb.

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They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

I'm sorry, sir, but Star Wars is all about "stupid little kids."

We had the Ewoks, and the Ewoks are awesome.

Actually it isn't, there are some nods like 3P0, R2, Ewoks & Gungans (the last one can go away, or die of genocide for all I care). The majority of it, especially Ep. 3 are gritty and much more adult.

The new movies should be more gritty, dark and, as I've said, tied (at least somewhat) into the Expanded Universe.

If they kill off Han, Luke, Leia or any other character (except Chewy, he can die like in the EU) then I'm finished with Star Wars.

If they refuse to make the movies like they should, then as I said, I hope the entire franchise collapses and Disney suffers tremendous financial loss so that future generations won't have to suffer from a screwed up, destroyed Star Wars series. It would be better for the whole thing to die now than for idiots to try to revise and scrap everything.

They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

I'm sorry, sir, but Star Wars is all about "stupid little kids."

We had the Ewoks, and the Ewoks are awesome.

Actually it isn't, there are some nods like 3P0, R2, Ewoks & Gungans (the last one can go away, or die of genocide for all I care). The majority of it, especially Ep. 3 are gritty and much more adult.

The new movies should be more gritty, dark and, as I've said, tied (at least somewhat) into the Expanded Universe.

If they kill off Han, Luke, Leia or any other character (except Chewy, he can die like in the EU) then I'm finished with Star Wars.

If they refuse to make the movies like they should, then as I said, I hope the entire franchise collapses and Disney suffers tremendous financial loss so that future generations won't have to suffer from a screwed up, destroyed Star Wars series. It would be better for the whole thing to die now than for idiots to try to revise and scrap everything.

Episodes II (maybe- if being "adult" means being a snoozefest until Yoda pulls his lightsaber), III, and Empire are not enough to constitute a "majority".

As for the new movies, I would REJOICE if they jettison the EU. If it wasn't written by Zahn, Anderson (and even then, he was pretty hit or miss), or Stackpole it really wasn't worth reading anyway.

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Lucas had called only Hamill and Fisher to discuss 7, 8 and 9. Even now, there are discussions if Harrison Ford should return since he is the oldest of the group and Indiana IV did not go that well. It seems that, as of now, we would go with an old experienced Luke, and a widowed Leia.

They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

I'm sorry, sir, but Star Wars is all about "stupid little kids."

We had the Ewoks, and the Ewoks are awesome.

Actually it isn't, there are some nods like 3P0, R2, Ewoks & Gungans (the last one can go away, or die of genocide for all I care). The majority of it, especially Ep. 3 are gritty and much more adult.

The new movies should be more gritty, dark and, as I've said, tied (at least somewhat) into the Expanded Universe.

If they kill off Han, Luke, Leia or any other character (except Chewy, he can die like in the EU) then I'm finished with Star Wars.

If they refuse to make the movies like they should, then as I said, I hope the entire franchise collapses and Disney suffers tremendous financial loss so that future generations won't have to suffer from a screwed up, destroyed Star Wars series. It would be better for the whole thing to die now than for idiots to try to revise and scrap everything.

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They need to put real fans, fans who know the EU to contribute to the films, and not nominal idiots who have only seen the films and nothing else.

Or maybe, instead of getting someone who spends all his time reading Star Wars comic books and fan fiction, get someone who saw the films but spent more time reading Milton, Dante, Homer, etc. That is, if you want a movie that isn't really dumb.

Like I said, you aren't a Star Wars fan. The Expanded Universe is absolutely amazing, you've clearly never read the books or the comics, or played any of the games.

Lucas had called only Hamill and Fisher to discuss 7, 8 and 9. Even now, there are discussions if Harrison Ford should return since he is the oldest of the group and Indiana IV did not go that well. It seems that, as of now, we would go with an old experienced Luke, and a widowed Leia.

They can also die if they decide to make it some little kid friendly, happy-go-lucky, Sesame Street, Barney, Jar-Jar Binks PG crap. I've already had to put up with one of my favorite TV shows ruined because of stupid little kids and being PG, I'm not going to have my all-time favorite franchise ruined because of Disney and stupid little kids.

I'm sorry, sir, but Star Wars is all about "stupid little kids."

We had the Ewoks, and the Ewoks are awesome.

Actually it isn't, there are some nods like 3P0, R2, Ewoks & Gungans (the last one can go away, or die of genocide for all I care). The majority of it, especially Ep. 3 are gritty and much more adult.

The new movies should be more gritty, dark and, as I've said, tied (at least somewhat) into the Expanded Universe.

If they kill off Han, Luke, Leia or any other character (except Chewy, he can die like in the EU) then I'm finished with Star Wars.

If they refuse to make the movies like they should, then as I said, I hope the entire franchise collapses and Disney suffers tremendous financial loss so that future generations won't have to suffer from a screwed up, destroyed Star Wars series. It would be better for the whole thing to die now than for idiots to try to revise and scrap everything.

Like I said, I will abandon the whole franchise if they kill off any of those three and totally ret-conn the EU post-ROTJ. Star Wars will be dead to me and I hope Disney fails.

They need to put real fans, fans who know the EU to contribute to the films, and not nominal idiots who have only seen the films and nothing else.

Or maybe, instead of getting someone who spends all his time reading Star Wars comic books and fan fiction, get someone who saw the films but spent more time reading Milton, Dante, Homer, etc. That is, if you want a movie that isn't really dumb.

Like I said, you aren't a Star Wars fan. The Expanded Universe is absolutely amazing, you've clearly never read the books or the comics, or played any of the games.

I won't buy into Star Wars if they kill those characters off, just like I refuse to buy into Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for killing main characters you invest so much time in. Just like I will refuse to invest into another popular game franchise, or like I haven't played or invested time into the Force Unleashed series, and just like I will refuse to buy into anymore Halo games if Master Chief dies. Same reason as to why I absolutely hate the Departed, The Skeleton Key, The Final Cut, The Matrix Series and any other movie that kills off the main character in the end.

Luke must get married, have children and at least live to a very old age before he dies. Anything less is worthless and I'm done with the series.

If they screw this up, I will get rid of all my games, movies, novels, comics & the toys from when I was a kid. They are worthless to me.

I won't buy into Star Wars if they kill those characters off, just like I refuse to buy into Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for killing main characters you invest so much time in. Just like I will refuse to invest into another popular game franchise, or like I haven't played or invested time into the Force Unleashed series, and just like I will refuse to buy into anymore Halo games if Master Chief dies. Same reason as to why I absolutely hate the Departed, The Skeleton Key, The Final Cut, The Matrix Series and any other movie that kills off the main character in the end.

Luke must get married, have children and at least live to a very old age before he dies. Anything less is worthless and I'm done with the series.

If they screw this up, I will get rid of all my games, movies, novels, comics & the toys from when I was a kid. They are worthless to me.

Do Hamlet and Othello send you into fits of screaming rage?

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I won't buy into Star Wars if they kill those characters off, just like I refuse to buy into Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for killing main characters you invest so much time in. Just like I will refuse to invest into another popular game franchise, or like I haven't played or invested time into the Force Unleashed series, and just like I will refuse to buy into anymore Halo games if Master Chief dies. Same reason as to why I absolutely hate the Departed, The Skeleton Key, The Final Cut, The Matrix Series and any other movie that kills off the main character in the end.

Luke must get married, have children and at least live to a very old age before he dies. Anything less is worthless and I'm done with the series.

If they screw this up, I will get rid of all my games, movies, novels, comics & the toys from when I was a kid. They are worthless to me.

Do Hamlet and Othello send you into fits of screaming rage?

Never read them, nor care to read them. Romeo & Juliet was a beautiful story until Shakespeare screwed it up by having them kill themselves tragically. Julius Caesar was also pretty good, but Brutus should have been portrayed as a good guy, not as the antagonist, he was doing the Empire a favor by killing Julius.

Same reason why I think the story of the Spartans at Thermopylae shouldn't be held up as a some great story. It was an incredible feat of sacrifice, but it makes for a terrible story.

Stories should ALWAYS end with the bad guy getting what he deserves, and the protagonists living on in happiness and to an old age.

I won't buy into Star Wars if they kill those characters off, just like I refuse to buy into Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for killing main characters you invest so much time in. Just like I will refuse to invest into another popular game franchise, or like I haven't played or invested time into the Force Unleashed series, and just like I will refuse to buy into anymore Halo games if Master Chief dies. Same reason as to why I absolutely hate the Departed, The Skeleton Key, The Final Cut, The Matrix Series and any other movie that kills off the main character in the end.

Luke must get married, have children and at least live to a very old age before he dies. Anything less is worthless and I'm done with the series.

If they screw this up, I will get rid of all my games, movies, novels, comics & the toys from when I was a kid. They are worthless to me.

Do Hamlet and Othello send you into fits of screaming rage?

Never read them, nor care to read them. Romeo & Juliet was a beautiful story until Shakespeare screwed it up by having them kill themselves tragically. Julius Caesar was also pretty good, but Brutus should have been portrayed as a good guy, not as the antagonist, he was doing the Empire a favor by killing Julius.

LOL

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I won't buy into Star Wars if they kill those characters off, just like I refuse to buy into Modern Warfare or Call of Duty for killing main characters you invest so much time in. Just like I will refuse to invest into another popular game franchise, or like I haven't played or invested time into the Force Unleashed series, and just like I will refuse to buy into anymore Halo games if Master Chief dies. Same reason as to why I absolutely hate the Departed, The Skeleton Key, The Final Cut, The Matrix Series and any other movie that kills off the main character in the end.

Luke must get married, have children and at least live to a very old age before he dies. Anything less is worthless and I'm done with the series.

If they screw this up, I will get rid of all my games, movies, novels, comics & the toys from when I was a kid. They are worthless to me.

Do Hamlet and Othello send you into fits of screaming rage?

Never read them, nor care to read them. Romeo & Juliet was a beautiful story until Shakespeare screwed it up by having them kill themselves tragically. Julius Caesar was also pretty good, but Brutus should have been portrayed as a good guy, not as the antagonist, he was doing the Empire a favor by killing Julius.

LOL

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Apart from moral conduct, all that man thinks himself able to do in order to become acceptable to God is mere superstition and religious folly. - Immanuel Kant

It is the exact same reason I read the ending to every movie I watch or want to watch. If the ending isn't good and isn't happy, then I refuse to watch it and may even walk out (unless I'm at the theater with friends).

Same thing with video games, I will read the ending, and if the ending is good, I might buy it, if not, I won't.

I read fiction to feel better and fiction (and all forms of art) should be to lift the person up and make them feel good, not dash them into pieces and make them feel like crap.

That is why I stick mostly to non-fiction and the only fictional series I've ever gotten into is Star Wars because it is mostly good without a ton of terrible tragedy. Darth Vader killed his love, but he was redeemed in the end, dying in the arms of his son. His son lives on, marries, and while she dies a tragic death at the hands of a family member (Han & Leia's son if I recall), Luke & her son lives on, and eventually you arrive hundreds of years later and his bloodline still continues.

Like in LOTR, sure it really sucks that Frodo is gone, but the other main protagonists and Aragorn live, marry and have children. Or like Harry Potter, where they all marry and have kids in the end.

It is the exact same reason I read the ending to every movie I watch or want to watch. If the ending isn't good and isn't happy, then I refuse to watch it and may even walk out (unless I'm at the theater with friends).

Same thing with video games, I will read the ending, and if the ending is good, I might buy it, if not, I won't.

I read fiction to feel better and fiction (and all forms of art) should be to lift the person up and make them feel good, not dash them into pieces and make them feel like crap.

That's why I don't like 1984.

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Apart from moral conduct, all that man thinks himself able to do in order to become acceptable to God is mere superstition and religious folly. - Immanuel Kant

It is the exact same reason I read the ending to every movie I watch or want to watch. If the ending isn't good and isn't happy, then I refuse to watch it and may even walk out (unless I'm at the theater with friends).

Same thing with video games, I will read the ending, and if the ending is good, I might buy it, if not, I won't.

I read fiction to feel better and fiction (and all forms of art) should be to lift the person up and make them feel good, not dash them into pieces and make them feel like crap.

I'd like to recommend a film to you that you'd really enjoy. It's called Grave of the Fireflies. Don't read the ending- it's a great surprise! But it's animated, so you know it will have a happy ending.

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"A riddle or the cricket's cryIs to doubt a fit reply." - William Blake

It is the exact same reason I read the ending to every movie I watch or want to watch. If the ending isn't good and isn't happy, then I refuse to watch it and may even walk out (unless I'm at the theater with friends).

Same thing with video games, I will read the ending, and if the ending is good, I might buy it, if not, I won't.

I read fiction to feel better and fiction (and all forms of art) should be to lift the person up and make them feel good, not dash them into pieces and make them feel like crap.

I'd like to recommend a film to you that you'd really enjoy. It's called Grave of the Fireflies. Don't read the ending- it's a great surprise! But it's animated, so you know it will have a happy ending.

Just read the ending, that is a crappy ending. Absolutely not worth watching.

Its also the reason I don't get into watching TV series (except one, which never has an "ending" and death doesn't happen, well, except when it is unfortunately real). I've gone this whole time resisting the temptation to watch series like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones and Walking Dead because I refuse to get invested in characters if they just kill them off.

That is also why I'm so glad I didn't get into Lost until the very end, so that I wasn't invested into any characters dying, and while I was mad they killed off the main character, the ending was still happy.

Also, while it is a comedy, I'm glad I never got into Seinfeld because to end the series with them all going to jail is just stupid and pointless. I'm glad that as I grew up watching Friends, they didn't screw us over and gave us what we wanted, to see everyone together, married and happy.