I grew up in a neighborhood that had a significant population of Irish, and I never understood the stereotype of all the Irish having red hair. I suppose Irish have red hair in more frequency than other Europeans, but most of them have Dark or Brown hair.

I believe that the Irish and Scots are of a different racial stock than most other Northern Europeans, from reading about the early neolithic settling of the continent, they are shown to have came from where Spain is now, a Celtic migration from Central Europe.

Often you hear the term "Black Irish" to describe and Irishmen with Dark hair or brown eyes, and then some mythical bull**** story of a Spanish ship that crashed on the shores of Ireland and mixed with the Natives. The reality is that these people, are natives to Ireland, just like the Basques in Spain, they descent from that early wave of settlers to the island.

If you look at the average Irish type, they have pale skin, dark hair or brown, and blue or green eyes. They also have skeletal features more close to a Mediterranean type than a Germanic or Nordic type, on average they are shorter, more stocky built, and have smoother facial features than a Scandinavian, despite both of these people having very light skin and eyes.

Take these two Irish talk show hosts for example:

Even if they had Blonde hair, they clearly do not have a Nordic bone structure. Now granted there is a certain amount of Nordic blood in Ireland from the Viking invaders, but it is not very predominant and they and the Scottish are probably the most pure Celts who exist today.

My grandparents were from Ireland. My grandfather was tall, blond/blue-eyed. My grandmother was average height, light brown hair/blue eyes. They were both fair skinned. My father (their son), three of his brothers and his sister have blue eyes, naturally blond hair and are all over 6' tall. One of his brother has blue eyes and red hair. My younger brother also is tall, blond/blue-eyed, just like them. The men all look like vikings. Very handsome group, even though I prefer darker hair and eyes (it's just coloring, and I'm not THAT shallow). They must have gotten some very Nordic blood along the way.

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Re: Northern Italians?

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Originally Posted by One Europe

The earthquake has happened in Central Italy, in the region called "Abruzzo" and unfortunately it's been centered in its major city and regional capital "l'Aquila". There have been 20 deaths (5 are children), tens of missing people, thousands of injured people and about 10.000 had to leave their homes.

Rural Campania is full of red heads. My great grandparents were both red headed and blue eyed, and straight out of a small town in Campania. Some towns in Campania reach around 20-30% red headed.

I hear Campania is a beautiful region. My great grandparents use to visit it often. I have very old pictures of their homeland and their trips to different places in Europe. They had close friends who lived in Campania.

It's absurd to see the White race as split between "Nord" and "Med". There's probably more Alphines and Dinarics in Italy than Meds, for instance.

The Irish are stereotypically Brunn, which is a type of Cro-Magnid. Ireland is mostly made up of Brunns; the stereotypical Irish look (Complete with bushy eyebrows) is Brunn. There's also a decent amount of Meds in Ireland (Welsh are some 40% Med), those two women in that picture are probably Brunn/Med mixed. There's also Alphines and Nords in Ireland.

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Originally Posted by GrecoRomanGeoff

I grew up in a neighborhood that had a significant population of Irish, and I never understood the stereotype of all the Irish having red hair. I suppose Irish have red hair in more frequency than other Europeans, but most of them have Dark or Brown hair.

I believe that the Irish and Scots are of a different racial stock than most other Northern Europeans, from reading about the early neolithic settling of the continent, they are shown to have came from where Spain is now, a Celtic migration from Central Europe.

Often you hear the term "Black Irish" to describe and Irishmen with Dark hair or brown eyes, and then some mythical bull**** story of a Spanish ship that crashed on the shores of Ireland and mixed with the Natives. The reality is that these people, are natives to Ireland, just like the Basques in Spain, they descent from that early wave of settlers to the island.

If you look at the average Irish type, they have pale skin, dark hair or brown, and blue or green eyes. They also have skeletal features more close to a Mediterranean type than a Germanic or Nordic type, on average they are shorter, more stocky built, and have smoother facial features than a Scandinavian, despite both of these people having very light skin and eyes.

Take these two Irish talk show hosts for example:

Even if they had Blonde hair, they clearly do not have a Nordic bone structure. Now granted there is a certain amount of Nordic blood in Ireland from the Viking invaders, but it is not very predominant and they and the Scottish are probably the most pure Celts who exist today.