hey, yeah i do , i help out at interface ( drumsound and basslines night in derby ).. them guys ( particularly andy drumsound ) make nuff tunes.. generally just 65 bar loops and they test em when they play out on the road.. if they go down well etc they get finnished.. theres tons that never see the light of day.. robotix was one of them i guess..there was a roni size remix of junglist too..