if someone with road rage drives into 50 people we make it safer for the people. that's our concern. to do nothing is not an option. this man should
not have had the right to hold a gun as he was on a watch list, even if he was in security. he should not have been given one.

two things failed us, the club not checking for guns, and our gun laws allowing people on watch lists access to guns. if these two conditions were
met, this would have never happened.

if someone with road rage drives into 50 people we make it safer for the people. that's our concern. to do nothing is not an option. this man should
not have had the right to hold a gun as he was on a watch list, even if he was in security. he should not have been given one.

two things failed us, the club not checking for guns, and our gun laws allowing people on watch lists access to guns. if these two conditions were
met, this would have never happened.

My point is that we don't blame inanimate objects... we blame the people. Maybe the person who sold him the guns should be investigated for fraud as
well...There are laws in place for every step. I'm not sure what new laws even should be in place for this.

Yes it is. And completely unnecessary to hurt someone who lost someone they knew in this tragedy. Turn off your computer and sleep on it. Please.

NO, It's Not!

The President of the United States represents EVERY citizen.

Gun advocates get their panties in a bunch if he even hints at gun control. Too Bad.

He is the President of anti-gun citizens too. Their voices are just as valid as pro-gun citizens.

The fact that gun laws are even brought up in the time of tragedy is an insult. A gun didn't go off and kill 50 people... a PERSON opened fire.

It's not a gun issue, it's a human issue.

That's nice, but 50 people are dead. By gun assault.

My original post was to someone complaining about Obama saying something about gun control in his speech.

I said he is everyone's president, not just yours.

50 people are dead because of one PERSONS actions. Using an inanimate object as a scapegoat is a fallacy.

I am a gun owner. I do not blame guns.

But, that was not my point.

So then you know that there are laws and procedures in place to register and obtain guns already.... what other laws should their possibly
be?

That is not what I was addressing.

Weren't you talking about gun laws and Obama addressing the "need" for more restrictions gun control?
I promise I am not being facetious, I genuinely am getting everyone confused because I feel like I have been talking about this all day, so please
don't take it the wrong way.

edit on 13-6-2016 by SomeDumbBroad because: Half asleep and can't grammar.....Im an idiot

if someone with road rage drives into 50 people we make it safer for the people. that's our concern. to do nothing is not an option. this man should
not have had the right to hold a gun as he was on a watch list, even if he was in security. he should not have been given one.

two things failed us, the club not checking for guns, and our gun laws allowing people on watch lists access to guns. if these two conditions were
met, this would have never happened.

My point is that we don't blame inanimate objects... we blame the people. Maybe the person who sold him the guns should be investigated for fraud as
well...There are laws in place for every step. I'm not sure what new laws even should be in place for this.

blame who ever you want, do you think that people on terrorist watch lists should have access to guns?

Gay people ran to the blue side of the isle for a reason. And that reason is that conservatives have historically treated gay people as a problem
needing a solution rather than individuals whose rights should be protected.

The FBI couldn't connect the dots? Couldn't connect the dots? Hmm... we'll never end this, because the writing has to be on the f*#&ing wall and the
ceiling and the back of their hands, and on their eyeballs to make a connection when someone says I want to kill, in the name of Allah blah blah
blah...

Don't even know how that happened. I mean, you walk into a gun store, want to buy a big rifle, and lots of ammo, the fat guy behind the counter runs a
background check on you and it comes back clean, yet you've had 3 FBI detentions and interviews? Yeah he wasn't charged with anything to get his name
put somewhere, but if he was under suspicion he should not have been able to get a weapon as deadly as this without some deep questions.

if someone with road rage drives into 50 people we make it safer for the people. that's our concern. to do nothing is not an option. this man should
not have had the right to hold a gun as he was on a watch list, even if he was in security. he should not have been given one.

two things failed us, the club not checking for guns, and our gun laws allowing people on watch lists access to guns. if these two conditions were
met, this would have never happened.

My point is that we don't blame inanimate objects... we blame the people. Maybe the person who sold him the guns should be investigated for fraud as
well...There are laws in place for every step. I'm not sure what new laws even should be in place for this.

blame who ever you want, do you think that people on terrorist watch lists should have access to guns?

I am well aware of this which is why I previously stated that the person who sold him the guns should be under investigation.

Conspiracy theorist here. I think it's fairly obvious at this point that America was due for another terror attack and, like clockwork, got
one. I'm going to start looking at how far apart the 'terror' attacks in the US are, specifically the ones that dominate the 24-hr news cycle i.e.
provide a distraction for a population that is not amused by the establishment's pathetic attempts at making us think this election matters
whatsoever. I guarantee there's a pattern.

i know it should have been prevented. unfortunately congress sees the this limitation on americans as a second amend violation, a law that obama tried
to get passed. now that this happens you have people blaming obama and not the people who dont want safer gun laws, because you mention gun laws and
they freak out.

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