Not a single mention of Zwilling in this thread. Is there a reason for that?

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over here, zwilling is henckels. for years the two big kitchen knives sold in the us were henckels and wusthoff (and a trickle of the various sabatier brands). for me, wusthoff was a much better knife. and then along came all the japanese knives, etc. henckels (zwilling) is a decent supermarket knife, but that's pretty much it. is it different in the EU?

A fantasy is when you have an unlimited supply of sodium alginate, a couple dozen oysters, and too much free time.
I have to say, there is nothing quite like that sinking feeling you get after you've shaved the last slice of truffle.

over here, zwilling is henckels. for years the two big kitchen knives sold in the us were henckels and wusthoff (and a trickle of the various sabatier brands). for me, wusthoff was a much better knife. and then along came all the japanese knives, etc. henckels (zwilling) is a decent supermarket knife, but that's pretty much it. is it different in the EU?

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I realized it might be Henckels when I saw the full name of Zwilling (Zwilling J.A. Henckels)...

I'm not sure what a supermarket brand is, but I don't think they're sold in supermarkets over here. You can buy them in kitchen stores that also sell brands like Sabatier, Global and Wusthoff as well.

I have a Henckels that I like. It's not one of their top end lines, but it works fine.

Unfortunately, I can honestly say that I wouldn't buy it again since the $23 Victorinox knife is better in most ways. The Victorinox/Forschner was also better than another knife I recently compared it directly against (can't remember if it was the 8" henckels Twin Pro-S or the Wustoff Classic since they both look alike).

I'm not sure what a supermarket brand is, but I don't think they're sold in supermarkets over here.

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aaargh! i meant to say department store brand.

A fantasy is when you have an unlimited supply of sodium alginate, a couple dozen oysters, and too much free time.
I have to say, there is nothing quite like that sinking feeling you get after you've shaved the last slice of truffle.

Thanks, otc. What does a simple Henckels chef's knife approximately cost in the US?

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they're usually around $100. Wusthoff and Global are roughly the same.

A fantasy is when you have an unlimited supply of sodium alginate, a couple dozen oysters, and too much free time.
I have to say, there is nothing quite like that sinking feeling you get after you've shaved the last slice of truffle.

Anyway, I've grown used to it, it feels good in my hand and I only do simple cooking. Next step is learning how to sharpen it (been reading the knife sharpening thread).

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you're way ahead of most. every time someone starts going on about the newest single-bevel gyuto, I want to ask: "but how does it feel in your hand?" (no homo) and "but do you know how to use it and keep it sharp?" (come to think about it ...). some of the best cooks i learned from did most of their work with restaurant supply knives (like forschner).

A fantasy is when you have an unlimited supply of sodium alginate, a couple dozen oysters, and too much free time.
I have to say, there is nothing quite like that sinking feeling you get after you've shaved the last slice of truffle.