I'm in the vicinity of Decware already this morning, and headed to the fest later this afternoon... and I have my Torii III with me! So I can hear III .vs. IV real time... and leave my III behind for upgrade if I like what I hear.... or..... sell my III and get a whole new IV... decisions, decisions.

Offhand, I'm probably going for the KT-66, but I'll defer to what Steve suggests. When I describe what I'm looking for in my sound, he always cuts to the chase and gets me there more quickly - sometimes not always explaining why, but he's not been wrong yet.

Hi, Pat. I was in your shoes a number of months back. I believe I got the first customer shipped MK IV and I've had it now going into my third week. The Torii was my first Decware piece and I can tell you the wait is worth it. I recommend using the KT66s with this amp. I also have the EL34s and have put those away. The 66s seem to have a richer sound and better balance top to bottom. I still have tons of break in to go but this amp has already won me over. If it continues to improve as everyone suggests that it will, this will be my last amp.

I just noticed on the product page that Steve omitted the bit about ordering a TORII MK IV at the TORII MK III Price. He also omitted the pictures of the IV. I think the transition to the new page is underway.

Well my Torii MKIV just arrvied today. For now I am seeing how it sounds with my small traps speakers. I have used the mini torii for a few years now, jupiter and feedback upgrade on it, and just love it so time to see how this big boy does

I have never heard a mini-Torii... but I did A/B my Torii III to the IV, and I prefer the III's lusciousness to the IV's more clinical sound... your speakers, sources and room will surely be different and your preferences may vary. It will be interesting to hear your impressions.

Well darn it this amp is just super awesome that since I have plugged it in I forgot about my mini torii. I have noticed everything just went up a notch in a good way, especially the bass department and clarity compared to my mini torii. Now I just love my mini torii but since I got the MKIV I have had no desire to listen to it lol. I still have burning in to do as I have only like 30 hours on it. Even my wife who is just the best, mentioned how good the MKIV sounded and she never comments on my audio stuff lol.

My setup is, iMac--Anedio U2 usb converter---Van Alstine Vision dac---Torii---Trapezium speakers, though speakers will be upgraded eventually to the err's or hr-1.Thank you decware team for making an amazing amp and having such wonderful service.

Speaker Impedance Switch (cont.)The amplifier is sold with the option of being wired for 8 and 16 ohm speakers. Irregardlessof which way you had your amplifier wired at the factory, the higher impedance will alwaysbe with the switch towards the front of the amp. Lower impedance will always be with theswitch towards the rear of the amplifier.

Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.Examples of IRREGARDLESS

I told them that irregardless of what you read in books, they's some members of the theatrical profession that occasionally visits the place where they sleep. —Ring Lardner, The Big Town, 1921Origin of IRREGARDLESS

probably blend of irrespective and regardlessFirst Known Use: circa 1912

"The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with the concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, deceptions, and spoils;The motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dark as Hell. Let no such man be trusted." William Shakespeare

Irregardless Versus RegardlessFirst, let's talk about irregardless. Some people mistakenly use irregardless when they mean “regardless.” Regardless means “regard less,” “without regard,” or despite something. For example, Squiggly will eat chocolate regardless of the consequences.

The prefix ir- (i-r) is a negative prefix, so if you add the prefix ir to a word that's already negative like regardless, you're making a double-negative word that literally means “without without regard.”

Language experts speculate that irregardless comes from a combination of the words regardless and irrespective and that another reason people might say "irregardless" is that they are following the pattern of words like irregular and irreplaceable. But regardless already has the -less suffix on the end, so it's not like those other words.

I have about 100 hours on my Torii MKIII to MK IV. It's been on, non-stop, for four days. I did some serious listening today. Stock new production EL-34 junk, I am using for break-in, sound pretty bad. It's been too long to remember what they sounded like before the mod. NOS RTF EL-34's sound wonderful. I have a feeling some will like the MKIII better but maybe not with KT-66's. First impressions are the amp is more accurate and the bass is more like SS (much better low end). It defiantly sounds better... something I never thought could happen. I won't go as far to say it sounds $800 better. That is subjective and the Torii MKIII already sounded so good it actually sounds better than I expected. I will say it's a bit less warm sounding in the midrange. I suspect the warm has been replaced with a more accurate reproduction of the source.

Steve- Thank you for the owners manual. As a future owner, I had a fear that I would have my amp before I had a manual and would have to flood the forum with questions about the switches etc. Looking to get that amp in another month or so. Still have stuff to sell though……

I agree that the meter chart on the web page is useful. I also agree in the assessment between the EL34 and KT66. I would have rated the properties in a similar manner if voting. I have been settling in with the KT66s as sounding better for me and this confirms what I am hearing.

If you can't see the new Torii MK4 web page, try refreshing your web browser.

This worked for me.

BTW, thanks to Steve again for giving us the early bird discount.I saved over US$800 in total ($500 price difference + $300 Pelican Case).

The Pelican case is still FOC at the moment so there is still potential savings of US$300 for anyone sitting on the fence right now.

My Torii MK4 finally arrived at my doorstep!

I'm currently burning in the equipment.Fresh out of the box, the amp sounds wonderful.I popped in a complete fresh set of NOS tubes.Based on my experience, the rectifier and output tubes need a long burn in before any sonic judgements can be made.

Will post more detailed impressions soon after I hit the 100hr burn in mark.

I'm trying new input tubes Siemens E88, but have also ordered some Mullard E88CC for warmer sound, the Klipsch RF7-ii I'm using are far too bright, the horns overtake the room, I have to calm the top end somehow, maybe use a (yuk) graphic equalizer!!! Will be going back to my Paradigms Monitor 9's if I can't get the Klipsch's to sound better!