This whole thing hasn't been polite enough to be called a "lecture," and I don't think the anti-2A folks will ever be satisfied. They'll be satisfied "for now," until the next opportunity. (That last word is pronounced "publicly exploitable tragedy.")

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They'll be satisfied "for now," until the next opportunity. (That last word is pronounced "publicly exploitable tragedy.")

Hmmm...Public Exploitable Tragedy...P.E.T.? I guess thats why they are now pushing their P.E.T. Legislation a lot more this year. Gives a new definition to, ummm, "pet project" or "pet legislation"... Sad really.

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(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.

What about aftermarket triggers that may have a lighter trigger pull, less travel and/or a shorter reset? Argument could be made that those factors add up to an increased rate of fire.

which is (i think) pretty clearly what Diane means to ban with that language. Don't forget, she looked at a lot of pictures of guns and accessories before writing (sorry, making her interns write) this onerous piece of legislation. So she really knows her stuff. Why, i'll bet she can tell a clip from a magazine. Well no, she probably hasn't ever seen a clip, star or stripper.

Anyway, write your congress people. make cogent, potent arguments. Unfortunately, if they have already consumed the Kool-aid, they won't listen - but tell them anyway. Each letter, email or phone call carries the representative weight of hundreds or even thousands of constituents who don't wall or write. Even a committed anti, faced with thousands of communications against a bill, might reconsider. Maybe they don't really have deeply held principles after all, save for re-election instincts.

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I finally read the beast last night. Several parts caught my interest, but there was one in particular that caught my eye. I don't have my copy with me, so I'll have to paraphrase: "A 'pistol grip' means [insert a couple of particulars] or anything else that functions as a grip."

Unless I'm sadly mistaken, every gun on the market has a place where you're supposed to grip it, right? So every gun has something "that functions as a grip."

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The rebuffed California Democrat plans to hold her own hearing in her Judiciary subcommittee on her legislation, which is strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association. Senate majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has also refused to back a ban on military-style weapons and high-capacity clips. Reid’s position reflects the political fact that a whole bevy of conservative Democrats do not support Feinstein’s ban.

There is troubling language in Section 5 on Background Checks at the end of the bill.

(t)(1) requires all transfers of grandfathered weapons to go through FFLs. Transfers to family members are not excluded.

(t)(2) provides an exclusion for "a temporary transfer of possession for the purpose of participating in target shooting in a licensed target facility or established range" but does not define the terms for those locations.

(t)(3) partially defines the term 'transfer' as: "(A) shall include a sale, gift, or loan; and (B) does not include temporary custody of the grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon for purposes of examination or evaluation by a prospective transferee."

The concept of requiring background checks for temporary transfers of possession is very disturbing, particularly when there is even a special exception for holding a gun you are considering buying.

That Section troubled me as well... If there is an exclusion for a temporary transfer for target shooting on a licensed target facility or established range, then the inference is that there is NO exclusion if you are not on a licensed facility or established range. Want to let your granddaughter shoot a few rounds into the back of the pond dam on your piece of rural land? Congratulations, you are a felon! Want to loan your son an AR for his first deer hunt? Felon.

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The analysis is that Feinstein pushing this will sink the more likely to be passed universal background checks. Due to legislative chicanery and covering your tushy - some procedures allow for wishy washy GOP and Democrats to avoid having to vote for an AWB to get background checks.

But Diane F. wants the whole thing - that will force Red state and purple state legislators at risk to vote against the whole package. That will sink background checks which we know that 254% of the population of the United States totally support.

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