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[06:13] # Appears as HUGH
[06:14] (#G3::E010M1) Hello
[06:14] (#G610E116M1) :)
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[10:08] # Appears as HUGH
[10:11] why such a sudden change of outlook
[10:18] (#G010E116M1) :)
[11:24] ah, back from Post-office
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[11:32] Hi everybody, except suomynona of course
[11:32] hi Jens
[12:05] you don't like suomynona ? :)
[12:05] hi Jens
[12:05] hey miz
[12:05] I just had yesterday guy who i dont know ask if i had any Ikkutousen on my ftp..
[12:05] lol
[12:06] and, do you?
[12:06] nope
[12:06] hadnt heard of it before
[12:06] oh I heard of it, haven't seen it
[12:06] (#G610E310M5) wonders
[12:06] (#G810E610M1) Wow, brx!
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[12:08] # Appears as ANNA
[12:09] (#G010E010M1) Hello
[12:09] (#G3::E810M1Tbrx) Hello
[12:09] (#G210E210M1) :)
[12:09] (#G610E116M1Tbrx) :)
[12:10] (#G610E;10M5) wonders
[12:10] (#G810E310M5Tbrx) wonders
[12:10] (#G=10E=10M1) Wow, brx!
[12:10] (#G010E610M1Tbrx) Wow!
[12:10] (#G>10E@10M1) Wow?
[12:10] (#G610E810M1Tbrx) Yes, wow!
[12:10] (#G010EA10M1) Crikey!
[12:13] MSG: (#G810E010M2Tlog_guy) Wow!
[12:13] brx: Usually I don't like chatbots, especially if they generate a lot of garbage.
[12:14] (#G010E310M1Tlog_guy) Chatbot?
[12:14] (#G210E010M5TJens) wonders
[12:15] Interesting fact: That chatbot doesnt have hostname set when you check it through irc-client(server?), but the IP resolves to adsl-82-148-36-37.fast.net.uk
[12:15] Please, whoever owns this thing, KILL it
[12:21] (#G=10E;10M5Tbrx) bows to brx
[12:22] Damn this bast-ard is hard to balance, seems i need to give stone 5.5 processes to get it right
[12:22] 135 wilfiz without qscan, but i am still not satisfied
[12:23] Mizcu: How about doubling the overall number of processes? Then it should need 11 processes.
[12:23] Not bad as idea, but it wont work
[12:23] since im making a S/P
[12:24] Then boot twice the number of papers and give the stone 11 processes
[12:24] Altough that might be a bit much
[12:26] MSG: (#G010E@10M2Tlog_guy) someone stole the magic cookies
[12:30] ooh, i got it right with reepicheeps boot
[12:30] :)
[12:31] 137 wilfiz <3
[12:32] Without any optimization on paper, or with qscan
[12:32] Let's hope then, that adding a qscan won't decrease the score
[12:32] I dont think i will
[12:33] :)
[12:34] S/P really needs the 10 cycle speed advantage i get without Qscan
[12:38] djn.f @table, #number | jmp elsewhere, last-of-table | table here
[12:39] ?
[12:40] i've always wanted to use a loop with djn.f x, #y , but i havent found really many uses for such
[12:40] No, i dont use that in my S/P
[12:41] Unknown by Anonymous scores 62
[12:41] Hullabaloo by Roy van Rijn scores 203
[12:41] Results: 9 56 35
[12:42] Ouch
[12:42] Do you use a silk-style paper?
[12:42] Ordinary silk-paper with bvowk's anti-imp clear-snippet
[12:43] I didnt know Moore-paper can hurt that much
[12:43] Time to get back to drawing-board
[12:43] Yes, I'm still looking for a good silk-style paper, that is kind of immune to moore-style papers
[12:44] Adding an imp-paper to the mix would take away the offensive edge..
[12:46] You could probably get some resistance by flooding core with mov's (silk-imps, mov.i #1, >1 -bombs), forcing an draw, but thats not good for killing.
[12:46] Obviously..
[12:46] (#G210EA10M1Tbrx) unknown?
[12:47] ...
[12:49] Remember: In a paper vs paper fight it is important to copy not only itself, but also dat's. Papers that copy little or no Dats tend to jumble into core full of mov } > or some other similiar
[12:49] Silks naturally copy some Dat's since 2nd and 3rd copy are usually atleast 2 instructions smaller, but still have 8 processes and thus copy 2 extra Dats
[12:50] If one could get past that problem, that would be a nice boost on papers effectivity.
[12:51] Actually, Moore-paper is one such
[12:52] Now that i check its working again
[13:03] But i still thank that the "rowing" it does is not good, though evidence it against me
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[13:06] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[13:06] (#G610E010M1) Hello
[13:06] (#G=10E210M1) :)
[13:42] ugh, my ideas are not something that normal person could code
[13:42] I need something special to send to hill..
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[13:45] Hi
[13:46] hi Met
[13:46] (#G>10E;10M1) Hello
[13:46] (#G010E=10M1) :)
[13:46] What's with the static?
[13:47] Anonymous, you make ugly line noise?
[13:47] (#G210E@10M1) Spiffy!
[13:48] Chatbot combined with Microsoft's comic chat, ugh
[13:49] Hi John!
[13:49] (#G=10E010M1) Chatbot, where?
[13:49] HI Mizcu, Jens
[13:53] ugh, Staticstone + CCpaper scores relatively well, but is badly bunked my Moore-papers
[13:54] my HSA-variant fails to reach hill and i dunno what to do with it
[13:54] Some of that line noise in the logs contains the id "brx"
[13:54] is it a sign?
[13:54] Twoshot is too annoying
[13:54] Met: its cchats way to tell someone is speaking directly someone other
[13:55] Right click on anonymous, select control, select ignore!
[13:55] Hmm, good thinking
[13:55] * Jens has already done that
[13:55] bye-bye to that crapspouter
[13:56] (#G010E;10M1) Crikey!
[13:56] (And there went another computer with censoring software -_-)
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[13:56] Hi sascha!
[13:56] Hi Sascha
[13:56] (#G610E@10M1) Wow!
[13:56] (#G=10EA10M1) Hello
[13:56] Hi, just checking time difference between the new logger and my sweet home ;-)
[13:57] (#G010E210M1) :)
[13:57] Could somebody please help! I know that there is already a good paper with fsilk/fsilk/fsilk/mov.i # istep, { 1/mov.i x, < x Does anybody know its name?
[13:57] hmm - 2 hours... who's that anonymous which's types
[13:58] Jens: Npaper2
[13:58] No, nPaper II has a bsilk at then end
[13:58] The last instruction is mov.i y, < x
[13:59] No, I can't think of one like that. I take it the processes just drop off?
[13:59] yes
[13:59] its Bvowkkies evolved one
[13:59] just a mov as last line, couldn't image that sch a paer can be successful...
[14:00] Only paper i have seen with such open end
[14:00] Maybe an open end is a good idea
[14:01] hehee:
[14:01] reepicheep: 34 57 9 111
[14:01] I've sent it (without qscan) to the hill ... we'll se
[14:01] Guess what type of warrior got that score against reepi
[14:01] If a cc-paper lands on an opponent, the opponent's processes can end up surviving in the loop
[14:01] oneshot?
[14:02] no
[14:02] twin paper, second paper = Moore-style
[14:02] btw. congrats john for your nano entry..
[14:02] (OS woulve scored better, reepi won 57, not the warrior)
[14:02] Thanks Sascha
[14:02] That scoring was by .33c stone
[14:02] I have another to try which might do almost as well. (completely different)
[14:03] Just a stone? Unusual
[14:03] (#G210E;10M1) Spooky!
[14:04] Its of course not an ordinary stone, its Bluefunk with different stepsize
[14:05] Ah, how i dream of .5c bluefunk..
[14:07] spl #step, or rather:
[14:07] spl #step, mov mov bomb,@-1
[14:08] add -3,-2
[14:08] djn.f -3, bomb:dat 1,half
[14:08] Not good code, but you get the idea
[14:09] by half do you mean hop or coresize/2?
[14:09] hop
[14:12] I'm sleepy today!
[14:12] and then there is the question of how do i prevenet self-bombing..
[14:12] Weekend, the sleepiest two days of the week ;-)
[14:13] I have no idea to do the prevention with .5c stone. Atleast one than also "slips" the pattern to make multiple bomb-runs
[14:13] Evoltmp's idea went a bit over my head and it was .33c too
[14:14] And such cannot selfmutate into dat-clear, and must instead have fall-through clear
[14:14] Hmmm... why can't it mutate?
[14:14] because its in sammd -form
[14:15] It just has to hit the link mov bomb,@-1 with any dat
[14:15] link equ line
[14:15] the add will screw possible coreclear
[14:16] Change it to add -3, @-1 then.
[14:16] you sure a sleepy
[14:16] Spl #0
[14:16] add
[14:16] mov
[14:16] mov
[14:16] djn
[14:16] When the mov bomb,@-1 is overwritten, the add stops altering the mov Aren't we talking about the code above? spl mov mov add djn?
[14:17] I am speaking of evoltmp's self-prevention, not .5c's
[14:17] djn.f @-1, Its easy to have clear with smmad -clear, but with evol its nearly impossible
[14:18] So, is anyone planning on giving me some competition on the nano hill? ;-)
[14:18] forget it...
[14:18] I'm sure someone could optimax something up to the top
[14:20] Hehe, only 80 possible value, optimizings can be done by pencil'n'paper...But i'm complete without an idea what can be successful between this evolvers creatures
[14:21] at least onspeed is still on.
[14:21] * Jens is away for a while
[14:21] its the oldest too - iirc
[14:22] some more entries like john's and it will drop quickly :)
[14:23] (#G=10E@10M1) Hey, It's Brx :)
[14:23] (#G010E010M1) brx, you be the master of the core
[14:23] (#G210E210M5) bows
[14:23] someone kickban that thing.
[14:23] is there a nano benchmark available ?
[14:23] sascha: well, there's infinano
[14:24] sascha: I would suggest taking all the warriors on infinano which are currently on the hill, plus a few evolved warriors from near the top of infinano
[14:25] sascha: furthermore you would do me a favour if you could ignore on-speed :) don't take me seriously though.
[14:26] Type-1 seems to score very nicely against on-speed
[14:26] Metcalf: it seems so. :)
[14:26] i'm just looking at on-speed...
[14:26] Metcalf: funny enough, it doesn't score as well against around the core in 80 cycles
[14:26] haven't seen the source for that one though
[14:26] only the name sounds "speedy" ;)
[14:27] brx, my latest nano warrior is named in your honour ;-)
[14:28] "type-1"? :
[14:28] well thank you =)
[14:28] No, the one which didn't make it on just now!
[14:29] * brx checks
[14:29] It's time to go.
[14:29] lol
[14:29] * Metcalf waves
[14:29] cu John,
[14:29] you humble me john! bye :)
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[14:34] 99% of infinano seems to be clears...hmmm
[14:38] errr ... that wasn't intended ...
[14:39] Wrote a paper ... added a suboptimal qscan ... send to the hill ... and now it is 7th
[14:40] heh, i say
[14:41] I should start to optimax it
[14:41] It probably all because of the wonderful name, that it has ;-)
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[14:45] Let's see, what remains, when I dat the hill
[14:47] Hmm ... that is even better :)
[15:03] Pork, Wok-vegetables, Oystersauce <3
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[15:25] (#G>10E@10M1) Hello
[15:26] (#G010EA10M1) :)
[15:26] WB brx
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[15:29] (#G210E010M1) Wow!
[15:50] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx
[16:22] hmm ... after 90 mins of optimaxing only a score of 140 in phase4
[17:01] Jens: for a paper?
[17:01] yup
[17:02] I have never actually noticed a huge benefit in optimizing paper constants instead of just taking some time to handpick some.
[17:03] I don't optimize the paper steps. I think, that from the score surfaces I know enough to calculate good ones with my own scripts. At the moment I'm optimaxing the bomb and imp constants
[17:04] those too
[17:05] We'll see. At the moment I'm benchmarking the version, that is on the hill. Just to see, which phase4 score it would get.
[17:05] are not so much of an issue I believe. once the paper is spread, it is spread. the time before that the bombs make their impact. and mostly that's the only time they do (for most simple bombing)
[17:05] there are exceptions
[17:08] Now it is 6th with a score of 143. As the 3rd is only 3.5 points away, I hope, that optimaxing will give me these points.
[17:08] That would be then the first time, that I'm that high on the hill
[17:09] Err ... if I remember correctly, I've never been that high on the hill ... I mean 6th
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[17:23] (#G610E210M1) Hello
[17:23] (#G=10E;10M1) :)
[17:24] hello anonymous !
[17:24] say hello to jens and Mizcu too
[17:24] and next time you notice metcalf, tell him "I am fine"
[17:24] anonymous: chant!
[17:27] (#G>10E=10M1) brx, brx. brx, chant with me
[17:27] anonymous: do you read me?
[17:29] * brx wonders if anna is broke
[17:29] n
[17:29] anna: hello
[17:30] anna: hello?
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[18:19] (#G010E@10M1) Hello
[18:20] (#G210EA10M1) :)
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[18:20] hey'all
[18:20] (#G610E010M1) Hello
[18:21] hrm, we have a log_guy....where does he log?
[18:21] (#G=10E210M1) :)
[18:21] ohw, subject :P
[18:21] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out
[18:25] michal is bombarding me with movie tips
[18:25] anyone of you seen "adaption", "secretary" or "donnie darko"
[18:26] Donnie Darko :) have you NOT seen it? :o
[18:26] no.. I haven't even heard about it :)
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