Claire Perry, MP for Devizes - Same sex marriage is a move to be supported

This week’s activities ranged from internet safety to the armed forces but were dominated by the debate over same gender marriage.

Last Wednesday, I met Britain’s leading internet service providers to hear more about their plans for family-friendly filters.

The good news is that the industry has made huge progress in recognising the problem and by the end of this year they will all offer products that allow us to protect all internet-enabled devices in the home with ‘one-click’ filtering which will be a massive step forward.

Much more needs to be done on age verification and access but there is a real willingness to move forward that is very welcome.

On Friday, I spent the day at Trenchard Lines, Upavon, discussing plans for Army 2020, reviewing the local military-civilian partnership and seeing the exceptional kit and training now offered to support our ISTAR efforts (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, and Reconnaissance).

From there it was off to an advice surgery in Great Bedwyn where the issue of marriage came up again. There have been so many myths propagated about the proposal that it has been quite difficult to have a real debate about the heart of the matter and so I have posted a ‘myth buster’ on my website to try and sort out the facts.

This proposal is to allow couples of the same gender to marry in a civil setting, not in church and churches cannot be compelled to marry such couples under UK law. There is no facility under European law to allow Europe to overrule us on this. No teacher can be sacked for refusing to endorse this change or for refusing to tell pupils about this form of union. But ultimately it comes down to fairness and I think it is fair to allow as many people as possible to marry regardless of race, colour or sexual orientation.

Marriage is the bedrock of our society and anything that strengthens it is to be supported and this move will strengthen, not weaken, marriage. I reach this view as a practising Christian and it is one shared by our Bishop, the Rt Rev Nicholas Holtam.

I support this legislation, although the irony of the matter is that urgent Government business required me to miss the vote on the Second Reading of the Bill on Tuesday. I have appreciated the communications from my constituents on this issue – both sides of the argument have been represented without rancour and helped me reach my decision.

Comments (40)

I couldn't care less whether gay people can get married or not. What I object to is the amount parliamentry time this has occupied when there are clearly more important issues to resolve. Oh yeah, and does this equality extend to allowing hetrosexual couples to have a civil partnership if they wish?

I couldn't care less whether gay people can get married or not. What I object to is the amount parliamentry time this has occupied when there are clearly more important issues to resolve. Oh yeah, and does this equality extend to allowing hetrosexual couples to have a civil partnership if they wish?Old retired bloke

Old retired bloke wrote:
I couldn't care less whether gay people can get married or not. What I object to is the amount parliamentry time this has occupied when there are clearly more important issues to resolve. Oh yeah, and does this equality extend to allowing hetrosexual couples to have a civil partnership if they wish?

Probably not.

[quote][p][bold]Old retired bloke[/bold] wrote:
I couldn't care less whether gay people can get married or not. What I object to is the amount parliamentry time this has occupied when there are clearly more important issues to resolve. Oh yeah, and does this equality extend to allowing hetrosexual couples to have a civil partnership if they wish?[/p][/quote]Probably not.notscot

I am surprised no one seems to have picked up on her stance in the vote

she didn't vote due to being elsewhere on "urgent Government business".

handy that, so she hasn't upset her pal call me Dave, she hasn't upset the sodomites, she hasn't upset the electorate and in future if it comes back to bite her on the bum, she wasn't just sitting on the fence here, she was on the other side of the field altogether.

So, room to jump either way, if need be.

She's one to watch this girl, a tactician of the Blair kind.

Meanwhile I wonder if she would care to publish the proportion for/against letters she has received on this matter?

I am surprised no one seems to have picked up on her stance in the [non] vote
she didn't vote due to being elsewhere on "urgent Government business".
handy that, so she hasn't upset her pal call me Dave, she hasn't upset the sodomites, she hasn't upset the electorate [she thinks] and in future if it comes back to bite her on the bum, she wasn't just sitting on the fence here, she was on the other side of the field altogether.
So, room to jump either way, if need be.
She's one to watch this girl, a tactician of the Blair kind.
Meanwhile I wonder if she would care to publish the proportion for/against letters she has received on this matter?shed

I used to be gay, but over SEVEN years ago Jesus set me FREE! I am now free from the sin of homosexuality. Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman according to the King James Bible (Genesis 2:24) so I am now married and my wife is pregnant by me. What's really cool is that now my life is not focused on "ME" I actually think about other's. More to the point, it's not about "ME" at all it's ALL about JESUS CHRIST! Jesus is Lord!!

I used to be gay, but over SEVEN years ago Jesus set me FREE! I am now free from the sin of homosexuality. Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman according to the King James Bible (Genesis 2:24) so I am now married and my wife is pregnant by me. What's really cool is that now my life is not focused on "ME" I actually think about other's. More to the point, it's not about "ME" at all it's ALL about JESUS CHRIST! Jesus is Lord!!xgaygreg

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
yeah right.
you weren't "gay" you were a sodomite and a pervert.
Now you are just nuts.
2013 and superstitious nonsense is still thriving.
There's no hope.[/p][/quote]Bring on the wedding!
It's about time Britain caught up with the century..SJAnder

[quote][p][bold]SJAnder[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
yeah right.
you weren't "gay" you were a sodomite and a pervert.
Now you are just nuts.
2013 and superstitious nonsense is still thriving.
There's no hope.[/p][/quote]Bring on the wedding!
It's about time Britain caught up with the century..[/p][/quote]Is that a proposal?shed

FromTheWirral wrote:
Methinks Shed protest too much, come out of the closet, the air is clearer...

you are assuming then that SJAnder is male?

it might be your preference, I make no judgement.

[quote][p][bold]FromTheWirral[/bold] wrote:
Methinks Shed protest too much, come out of the closet, the air is clearer...[/p][/quote]you are assuming then that SJAnder is male?
it might be your preference, I make no judgement.shed

No, I am saying you're a small-minded idiot with your 'sodomite' and 'pervert' alliterations... is your vocabulary that limited? Are you unable to use the word 'gay' or 'homosexual'?

Hope that clears that up.

No, I am saying you're a small-minded idiot with your 'sodomite' and 'pervert' alliterations... is your vocabulary that limited? Are you unable to use the word 'gay' or 'homosexual'?
Hope that clears that up.FromTheWirral

You really must find a way of getting help. Being so repressed must be very hard to live with each day.

It really doesn't matter that you like watching 'those' clips on the internet...and nobody can see your abuse of a cucumber on a Saturday night with a glass of sherry.

Be brave, be bold. Come out of the closet.

Pervert? Sodomite?
You really must find a way of getting help. Being so repressed must be very hard to live with each day.
It really doesn't matter that you like watching 'those' clips on the internet...and nobody can see your abuse of a cucumber on a Saturday night with a glass of sherry.
Be brave, be bold. Come out of the closet.thelittlemorgan

Having a couple of "gay" friends, believe or not, I am aware that being homosexual is necessarily a requirement to commit sodomy.

Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.

Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?

Having a couple of "gay" friends, believe or not, I am aware that being homosexual is necessarily a requirement to commit sodomy.
Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.
Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?shed

Elfwyn - have you actually read this thread?
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct!

Elfwyn - have you actually read this thread?
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct!Old retired bloke

Old retired bloke wrote:
Elfwyn - have you actually read this thread?
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct!

Absolutely nothing to do with the original post, all this is a diversionary tactic,typical of noisy lefty minorities eager to ram their peculiar lifestyle into everyone's face.

That practice is no less unsavoury whoever does it, or with what gender
But that's not the topic here the subject is the evasionary tactics of an an ambitious and manipulative politician.

None of you in your eagerness to promote or defend a disgusting practice are able or willing to answer the question I asked earlier

"Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?"

[quote][p][bold]Old retired bloke[/bold] wrote:
Elfwyn - have you actually read this thread?
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct![/p][/quote]Absolutely nothing to do with the original post, all this is a diversionary tactic,typical of noisy lefty minorities eager to ram their peculiar lifestyle into everyone's face.
That practice is no less unsavoury whoever does it, or with what gender
But that's not the topic here the subject is the evasionary tactics of an an ambitious and manipulative politician.
None of you in your eagerness to promote or defend a disgusting practice are able or willing to answer the question I asked earlier
"Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?"shed

shed wrote:
Having a couple of &quot;gay" friends, believe or not, I am aware that being homosexual is necessarily a requirement to commit sodomy.

Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.

Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?

That kind of poison you can't hide - so no - I don't believe you have any gay friends.
Basic fact - men DON'T have to be a homosexual to engage in anal sex.
The world isn't flat, either.
You're a bit of a throwback, shed. Hopefully if you have any offspring they have only a diluted form of your hatred. But I think they're more likely to be embarrassed by it.

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
Having a couple of "gay" friends, believe or not, I am aware that being homosexual is necessarily a requirement to commit sodomy.
Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.
Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?[/p][/quote]That kind of poison you can't hide - so no - I don't believe you have any gay friends.
Basic fact - men DON'T have to be a homosexual to engage in anal sex.
The world isn't flat, either.
You're a bit of a throwback, shed. Hopefully if you have any offspring they have only a diluted form of your hatred. But I think they're more likely to be embarrassed by it.notscot

I think the woman is a power hungry, political lightweight who hs bought her way into parliament and will do anything to get her picture in the paper. However, I believe she will rise to great heights within the Tory party.

I think the woman is a power hungry, political lightweight who hs bought her way into parliament and will do anything to get her picture in the paper. However, I believe she will rise to great heights within the Tory party.Old retired bloke

Old retired bloke wrote:
I think the woman is a power hungry, political lightweight who hs bought her way into parliament and will do anything to get her picture in the paper. However, I believe she will rise to great heights within the Tory party.

Bang on Old retired bloke.

At least two of us can see through this person we have been lumbered with for Devizes constituency.

She is fond of any opportunity to get her smug mug into the media, but can you think of one connected directly to this constituency?
Can anyone come up with any one thing she has done for Devizes constituency and area?

Any campaign that relates to Devizes constituency that is not directly connected to her hunger for political advancement?

My point in my original post before it got hijacked was to highlight the self serving manner in which she avoided taking any direct stance on the Gay marriage issue by being 'elsewhere' for the vote. neither for nor against, in order to placate both sides, not even abstaining in order not to go against her puppet master Dave.
Its cynical opportunism worthy of Blair.
Lets hope she gets her come-uppance at the next election, but I fear you are right Old retired bloke.
Ancram was a far better MP who would get involved in local issues.

[quote][p][bold]Old retired bloke[/bold] wrote:
I think the woman is a power hungry, political lightweight who hs bought her way into parliament and will do anything to get her picture in the paper. However, I believe she will rise to great heights within the Tory party.[/p][/quote]Bang on Old retired bloke.
At least two of us can see through this person we have been lumbered with for Devizes constituency.
She is fond of any opportunity to get her smug mug into the media, but can you think of one connected directly to this constituency?
Can anyone come up with any one thing she has done for Devizes constituency and area?
Any campaign that relates to Devizes constituency that is not directly connected to her hunger for political advancement?
My point in my original post before it got hijacked was to highlight the self serving manner in which she avoided taking any direct stance on the Gay marriage issue by being 'elsewhere' for the vote. neither for nor against, in order to placate both sides, not even abstaining in order not to go against her puppet master Dave.
Its cynical opportunism worthy of Blair.
Lets hope she gets her come-uppance at the next election, but I fear you are right Old retired bloke.
Ancram was a far better MP who would get involved in local issues.shed

shed wrote:
Well, as long as the sodomite vote stays with smirky Perry, it will have been worth it.

Meanwhile back in the real world of normal decent folk... with real concerns about the world around them.............

Amazing -when your ancient and ridiculous view on homosexuality is met with dissent - you snipe about others' inability to stick to the actual subject of the item. Not just a throwback - bit of a hypocrite, too.

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
Well, as long as the sodomite vote stays with smirky Perry, it will have been worth it.
Meanwhile back in the real world of normal decent folk... with real concerns about the world around them.............[/p][/quote]Amazing -when your ancient and ridiculous view on homosexuality is met with dissent - you snipe about others' inability to stick to the actual subject of the item. Not just a throwback - bit of a hypocrite, too.notscot

The article was about granting certain privileges to a minority section of society and the evasion tactics of our rabidly ambitious MP.

My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.

So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.

Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?

The article was about granting certain privileges to a minority section of society and the evasion tactics of our rabidly ambitious MP.
My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.
So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.
Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?shed

shed wrote:
The article was about granting certain privileges to a minority section of society and the evasion tactics of our rabidly ambitious MP.

My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.

So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.

Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?

You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you.
THEN you do the usual - accuse every dissenter of being what you're afraid of - in the hope it will embarass them into silence, like a child.
An idiot child.

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
The article was about granting certain privileges to a minority section of society and the evasion tactics of our rabidly ambitious MP.
My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.
So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.
Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?[/p][/quote]You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you.
THEN you do the usual - accuse every dissenter of being what you're afraid of - in the hope it will embarass them into silence, like a child.
An idiot child.notscot

you know notscot you never come on here with an opinion of your own or an original thought.
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.

You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.

Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the "rest of humanity does not feel as I do"

Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?

you know notscot you never come on here with an opinion of your own or an original thought.
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.
You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.
Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the "rest of humanity does not feel as I do"
Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?shed

shed wrote:
you know notscot you never come on here with an opinion of your own or an original thought.
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.

You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.

Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the &quot;rest of humanity does not feel as I do"

Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?

So - where are the "hysterical phrases"?
I probably do end up calling you an idiot - your posts make you seem like an idiot.
Leftie student fanatic???
Screaming bile - getting thrashed by the police?!!! Think I can see the hysteria creeping in - but I'm afraid it's yours, not mine.
So - who said "the rest of humanity"?
Not me - but hey - you've never let the truth get in the way before!

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
you know notscot you never come on here with an opinion of your own or an original thought.
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.
You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.
Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the "rest of humanity does not feel as I do"
Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?[/p][/quote]So - where are the "hysterical phrases"?
I probably do end up calling you an idiot - your posts make you seem like an idiot.
Leftie student fanatic???
Screaming bile - getting thrashed by the police?!!! Think I can see the hysteria creeping in - but I'm afraid it's yours, not mine.
So - who said "the rest of humanity"?
Not me - but hey - you've never let the truth get in the way before!notscot

"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"

all your posts are hysterical..

"rest of humanity" read your own words
"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"
all your posts are hysterical..shed

"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"

all your posts are hysterical..

As I said - don't let the truth get in the way!!
"most of the rest of humanity"
is not "the rest of humanity".
Had to twist even that?!!
You really are an hysterical, hating bigot.
And an idiot.

[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
"rest of humanity" read your own words
"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"
all your posts are hysterical..[/p][/quote]As I said - don't let the truth get in the way!!
"most of the rest of humanity"
is not "the rest of humanity".
Had to twist even that?!!
You really are an hysterical, hating bigot.
And an idiot.notscot

To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....

[quote][p][bold]notscot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
and your opinion on Claire Perry and her machinations is..........?[/p][/quote]Oh - NOW you want to discuss the upwardly mobile politically sharp destined for great heights (with the cleverly camouflaged brown nose) Claire Perry?[/p][/quote]To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....Old retired bloke

ambivalent is a good word to describe the Smirks attitudes to issues that matter to Devizes.

I see from today's papers that it would seem to suspicious minds such as mine that the whole issue of gay marriage, guaranteed as it is to cause this sort of divided opinion has been used as a smoke screen to hide the resurrection of something sinister viz the "Justice and Security Bill."

The bLiars tactic of hiding bad news is thriving it would seem.

I anticipate hearing The Smirkers stance on that one.

But I expect she'll be in the Gambia again when that comes to a vote.

ambivalent is a good word to describe the Smirks attitudes to issues that matter to Devizes.
I see from today's papers that it would seem to suspicious minds such as mine that the whole issue of gay marriage, guaranteed as it is to cause this sort of divided opinion has been used as a smoke screen to hide the resurrection of something sinister viz the "Justice and Security Bill."
The bLiars tactic of hiding bad news is thriving it would seem.
I anticipate hearing The Smirkers stance on that one.
But I expect she'll be in the Gambia again when that comes to a vote.shed

To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....

Irony.

[quote][p][bold]Old retired bloke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]notscot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]shed[/bold] wrote:
and your opinion on Claire Perry and her machinations is..........?[/p][/quote]Oh - NOW you want to discuss the upwardly mobile politically sharp destined for great heights (with the cleverly camouflaged brown nose) Claire Perry?[/p][/quote]To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....[/p][/quote]Irony.notscot

1, Internet safety is already out there you have to want it and bother to understand it. (Waste to tax payers money)
2, there is nothing really left at the Trenchard Lines just a lot of post officers waiting to retire. (Waste of tax payers’ money) go to one of the real bases and try and keep some of our soldiers in JOBs. They have earned it…. You haven’t.
3, you went to see you doctor. Fantastic
4, the rest is just Cr@p that’s out of your control but thanks for you opinion most of us done share it…

WHAT A LOAD OF CR@P
1, Internet safety is already out there you have to want it and bother to understand it. (Waste to tax payers money)
2, there is nothing really left at the Trenchard Lines just a lot of post officers waiting to retire. (Waste of tax payers’ money) go to one of the real bases and try and keep some of our soldiers in JOBs. They have earned it…. You haven’t.
3, you went to see you doctor. Fantastic
4, the rest is just Cr@p that’s out of your control but thanks for you opinion most of us done share it…cris

Claire Perry no different than most MPs sit on the fence go with what ever public opinion dictates at the time, dont like her and dont like the Tory Party remember we are paying the price of them selling off our utilities through the the inflated price we pay for gas electric and water.

Claire Perry no different than most MPs sit on the fence go with what ever public opinion dictates at the time, dont like her and dont like the Tory Party remember we are paying the price of them selling off our utilities through the the inflated price we pay for gas electric and water.Angolan Red