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US to test MOAB, *Mother of all Bombs* on Hurricanes---In an effort
to combat the devastating effects of category 5 hurricanes, New Tech
Spy has learned from well connected DoD sources, that the US
Department of Homeland Security has teamed with the US Air Force, in
a secret mission called "Operation Dark Sky". Dark Sky's purpose is
to test the effectiveness of the newly developed MOAB fuel air
explosive on the destructive eye wall of selected hurricanes, in an
effort to disrupt the central core's development and diminish its
intensity. The program will begin this summer, primarily in the Gulf
of Mexico, and extend through the 2006 hurricane season. ---The GBU-
43/B (MOAB), "Mother of all bombs" was developed in the run-up to the
Iraq war, but was never used in battle. The 21,000 pound fuel air
bomb works by first dispersing an aerosol cloud of tritonal, which is
then set off by a secondary explosion. The force of the explosion
creates a massive pressure wave unlike that of any other conventional
bomb, and makes it an ideal platform for US scientists to test on the
different types of atmospheric conditions created in a hurricane. ---
The initial program calls for five GBU-43's to be dropped in 30
minute intervals on the leading eye wall of the hurricane. Specially
modified C-130 aircraft will deliver the satellite-guided bombs in
altitudes ranging from 8,000 to 30,000 feet, the effect will be
measured by hurricane hunter planes and weather satellites. The
secret operation will not be disclosed to the American people unless
it is a complete success, but that might not be known for months or
perhaps even years of study, which will certainly add to the intrigue
and speculation surrounding "Dark Sky", America's big little secret.

This again shows the ignorance of this administration--considering
that hurricanes are about baratropical features (pressure, heat) when
the could microphysics are organized electrically. Paradoxically, the
added chemistry of this bomb inside the center of the storm may later
impact cloud microphysics to make the storm WORSE in terms of surface
winds and intensities!

Again, in the DC field the super cooled cloud droplet will add
additional water vapor molecules based on in part the migration of
ions by their size, shape, mass and charge. When you add the
chemistry of the bomb to the cloud levels, you are going to change
how quickly the DC field can self organize the cloud droplets . . .

Mike Doran

From a standpoint of adding energy to a hurricane, the bomb is not significant. Perhaps the idea is if there is a low pressure area if you add air to that low

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From a standpoint of adding energy to a hurricane, the bomb is not
significant. Perhaps the idea is if there is a low pressure area if
you add air to that low pressure in the form of a solid that burns to
a gas, you have a higher pressure, lower wind gradiants, and the
hurricane weakens. The idea is simple--but flawed.

This discussion on adding pressure ignores that in the process of
adding air you are also adding chemistry and particles to the air.
This is what I can tell you based on what I am studying--from my
eyes. Hurricane Andrew was a 5 mesovortice hurricane. It is a
signifant hurricane from an ELECTRICAL standpoint because it occurred
shortly after a volcano called Mt. Pinatubo blew and added huge
amounts of SOx chemistry into the atmosphere. The chemistry is added
to the forming cloud droplets, and when those droplets are in a
magnetic field, the ions tend to migrate to the poles of their
microfields, and that changes the droplet morphology--how added water
molecules bond to the droplet. Then that impacts phase change rates,
and on larger scales, how clouds behave. The bomb would have the
exact wrong impact, IMHO, likely bringing winds down closer to the
surface. A hurricane called Bret which occurred a few years after
Andrew had the same landfalling barametric pressure, but its surface
winds inland near its core were about 75 mph--with winds aloft much
higher.

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> US to test MOAB, *Mother of all Bombs* on Hurricanes---In an effort
> to combat the devastating effects of category 5 hurricanes, New

Tech

> Spy has learned from well connected DoD sources, that the US
> Department of Homeland Security has teamed with the US Air Force,

in

> a secret mission called "Operation Dark Sky". Dark Sky's purpose is
> to test the effectiveness of the newly developed MOAB fuel air
> explosive on the destructive eye wall of selected hurricanes, in an
> effort to disrupt the central core's development and diminish its
> intensity. The program will begin this summer, primarily in the

Gulf

> of Mexico, and extend through the 2006 hurricane season. ---The GBU-
> 43/B (MOAB), "Mother of all bombs" was developed in the run-up to

the

> Iraq war, but was never used in battle. The 21,000 pound fuel air
> bomb works by first dispersing an aerosol cloud of tritonal, which

is

> then set off by a secondary explosion. The force of the explosion
> creates a massive pressure wave unlike that of any other

conventional

> bomb, and makes it an ideal platform for US scientists to test on

the

> different types of atmospheric conditions created in a hurricane. --

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> The initial program calls for five GBU-43's to be dropped in 30
> minute intervals on the leading eye wall of the hurricane.

Specially

> modified C-130 aircraft will deliver the satellite-guided bombs in
> altitudes ranging from 8,000 to 30,000 feet, the effect will be
> measured by hurricane hunter planes and weather satellites. The
> secret operation will not be disclosed to the American people

unless

> it is a complete success, but that might not be known for months or
> perhaps even years of study, which will certainly add to the

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> Comment:
>
> Unbelievable stupidity.
>
> This again shows the ignorance of this administration--considering
> that hurricanes are about baratropical features (pressure, heat)

when

> the could microphysics are organized electrically. Paradoxically,

the

> added chemistry of this bomb inside the center of the storm may

later

> impact cloud microphysics to make the storm WORSE in terms of

surface

> winds and intensities!
>
> Again, in the DC field the super cooled cloud droplet will add
> additional water vapor molecules based on in part the migration of
> ions by their size, shape, mass and charge. When you add the
> chemistry of the bomb to the cloud levels, you are going to change
> how quickly the DC field can self organize the cloud droplets . . .
>

David

... I tend to agree with you. Considering the energies at work in even a minimal hurricane, I don t see how a bomb like the MOAB could have the slightest

>
> From a standpoint of adding energy to a hurricane, the bomb is not
> significant. Perhaps the idea is if there is a low pressure area if
> you add air to that low pressure in the form of a solid that burns to
> a gas, you have a higher pressure, lower wind gradiants, and the
> hurricane weakens. The idea is simple--but flawed.
>

I tend to agree with you. Considering the energies at work in even a
minimal hurricane, I don't see how a bomb like the MOAB could have the
slightest effect. For that matter, I doubt even a nuclear weapon
would have much effect at all. I'm not familiar with the source you
quoted, but to be completely honest, I don't believe a word of it.

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