Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Do you have any evidence that a plane full of passengers hit the building? It is nice to keep repeating tha bodies were found there but they were not.
You have no evidence that anything you said happened so why should anyone else be expected to prove otherwise? The OS is AA77 crashed there full of
passengers, right? Have any evidence?

P.S. I am glad you gave lilly credit for understanding what evience is. Now perhaps you should educate yourself on the difference between evidence and
what "many" people claim they saw. Evidence and hearsay are two different things. Sorry.

None of you have even come close to providing evidence that any passenger bodies were interred, let along there to begin with. Why is that?

I challenge you to explain your theory of what happened at the Pentagon. If you cannot, I will assume that you and Lilly are merely trolling.

You made this claim: "...explain why there were no passengers bodies at the crash scene."

Demonstrate that there were no passenger bodies at the Pentagon or withdraw your claim. It's as simple and straightforward as that.

Enough of your evasions, Lilydale. You're making a fool of yourself.

I'm not sure where she lives, but in the DC Metro area everyone knows someone who worked at the Pentagon site that day. Almost every fire, rescue,
and emergency vehicle in the region was parked out front.

People talk and a lot of people have talked about what they saw that day. All I can say as I didn't battle the fires (just sent pizzas to the
firefighters) is that there were a lot of unanswered questions on the part of people that were there.

Enough, in my opinion, to not tell people that they are making "fools" of themselves.

Feel free to demonstrate why none of them have contradicted anything demonstrating that AA77 hit the Pentagon. THAT, after all, is what everyone
claiming AA77 did NOT hit the Pentagon refuses to demonstrate.

Well thats the beauty of it. You could look into it yourself but dont.

And that's why 9/11 Truth Kiddies get upset when we point them to those who were there - over 1,000 at the Pentagon - and they make excuses why they,
as Truthers, have self-granted entitlements that exempts them from supporting their claims and having to get off their butts to do so.

Originally posted by jprophet420
Please truthers, leave the video camera argument alone, it is futile, and makes you look stupid. The "missing frame" argument is as stupid as the no
planes theory. Guess what? It was set to record 1fps and was not precise down to the second. If you think there is a conspiracy in that put your tin
foil hat on, the debunkers have won.

You need to substantiate this. In 2001, the company I worked for had full 30fps security cameras surrounding the warehouse. Did I work at the Pentagon
in 2001? Did I work at some top secret lab? Gold repository? No, I was working in an office supply warehouse and yet we had cameras recording 30fps
directly to hard drives 24/7.

You expect me to believe that the Pentagon had inferior cameras because technology was behind? I did not work in the future.

You can believe anything you want. But don't go around claiming things without backing it up, and don't deliberately deny writing what you wrote,
ok?

Now, demonstrate that you know what the capabilities of the Pentagon cameras were and how you know they "should have" recorded AA77. If you
can't, have the intellectual honesty to admit it and retract your unsupported claims.

Originally posted by jprophet420
Please truthers, leave the video camera argument alone, it is futile, and makes you look stupid. The "missing frame" argument is as stupid as the no
planes theory. Guess what? It was set to record 1fps and was not precise down to the second. If you think there is a conspiracy in that put your tin
foil hat on, the debunkers have won.

Hang on. 1fps, and not accurate to the second??? What, it sometimes took a pic and sometimes didn't? How was it timed. Why wasn't it accurate?
Perhaps the cameras were so ancient they ran on a water clock?

How about you provide some evidence that the camera was set to 1fps. Or are you just taking someone's word for it?

Actually, we've been constantly urging you to talk. But you absolutely refuse to back up your claims.

I wonder why you can't, impressme.

You need to stop telling lies jthomas. I and the rest of us have and do back up our creditable claims. It is you, who will not answer questions or
show sources. Do you not have any proof to debunk about the OP statement or are you just going to do your hit and run attacks.

Flight Data Recorder Analysis - Last Second of Data - 09:37:44
08/20/06
We have determined based on the Flight Data Recorder information that has been analyzed thus far provided by the NTSB, that it is impossible for this
aircraft to have struck down the light poles.
We have an animation of the entire flight provided by the NTSB. The animation covers the whole flight from taxi out at Dulles... to the impact at the
Pentagon in real time.

Originally posted by jthomas
Scott3x, I can only go by what Lilydale claims directly.

Fair enough. Guess we'll have to wait for her response on this one.

No bodies, no evidence of bodies. Whatever. I still never made the claim that bodies were found.

You already claimed there were NO bodies found at the Pentagon. What part of that do you STILL refuse to admit, Liliydale?

It is clear as a bell: You made this claim: "...explain why there were no passengers bodies at the crash scene."

Demonstrate that there were no passenger bodies at the Pentagon or withdraw your claim. It's as simple and straightforward as that. Why do you
constantly deny you made that claim, Lilydale, when it's right in front of all of us?

My little stalker claims they were found because they were on AA77 when it crashed into the pentagon.

Let's be clear: I, and the rest of the rational world, have no reason to doubt that AA77, with passengers on board, crashed into the Pentagon.
We have absolutely NO REASON to doubt the evidence from hundreds of independent and disconnected sources that converges that AA77 - with identified
passengers on board - crashed into the Pentagon. We have NO REASON to doubt that the remains of AA77's passengers were found at the Pentagon. We have
NO REASON to doubt the families of the passengers that their loved ones died in the crash of AA77 into the Pentagon.

We have NO REASON to doubt any of the massive evidence from multiple, independent and disconnected sources, nor from ASCE, nor from the
"after-action" reports from the local fire departments an rescue agencies, nor from the multiple independent, diconnected, and widely seperated
eyewitnesses, whose accounts are entirely consistent with all of the other evidence.

But YOU DO. So demonstrate WHY and HOW. Unless YOU can do so, nothing in the world will change what the rest of us accept as true.

So, do you really want to go around NOT supporting your claims? Do you actually think making a claim that "there were no
passenger bodies at the Pentagon," then REFUSING to back up that claim is going to change anyone's mind? We all have every right to question your
claims, assertions, and pronouncements about the events. We expect your explanations. We expect you to explain those things that would have to be
true for your claims to be true but for which there is NO evidence and for which you can provide none. We do not accept your attempts to shift
the burden of proof from your shoulders. I hope you are not so confused as to think you can just make claims and think everyone is going to accept
them on faith, as you have been doing to date.

It really does not matter how specific my statement is. Prove bodies were found. Prove they were from that plane. Then come ask me to prove
they were not.

You really have no clue how irrational that statement is. If you actually think you are going to convince anyone of anything, you live on a different
planet.

The burden of proof remains on you to refute the evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon and demonstrate why we should believe otherwise.

It should be crystal clear why, Lilydale. Do you understand why, finally?

Now, get to work and convince the entire world that AA77 did not hit the Pentagon and no passenger bodies were found at the Pentagon. We've been
waiting 8 years without you and your so-called 9/11 "Truth" Movement being able to demonstrate a thing.

Alright Jthomas, as I am sure you realize I have never made a claim that there was no bodies at the site. However the one thing that would lead me to
believe there were no bodies is the fact that there was no wings found at the crash site. I am still not claiming that there were no bodies found at
the crash site, I would just like for you to tell me what happened to the wings. Were they completly destroyed in the crash? If so, it is highly that
a human body was able to withstand what metal couldn't.

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