Raiders cut Cribbs, waive nine others

Return specialist and special teams player Josh Cribbs was the most notable of the first 10 players cut by the Raiders Sunday.

Cribbs mishandled two kickoffs in a 36-24 loss to the Chicago Bears, muffing the first before picking it up, with the Raiders getting a break on the second when officials ruled him to be down before the ball was lost.

Returning from offseason knee surgery, Cribbs was never able to show the kind of burst that resulted in eight career returns for touchdowns. Presumably, it was affecting his ability to cover kicks as well, another reason he was added to the roster.

The decision was made easier when Jacoby Ford flashed some of his pre-injury form, racing 62 yards with a kickoff after Cribbs appeared to be running in mud on the first two.

As a vested veteran, Cribbs had his contract terminated and he is free to sign with any team.

In addition, center/guard Alex Parsons thanked the Raiders for the “opportunity to play the game I love’’ on his Twitter account. Parsons, who did not play because of injury against Chicago, is likely working out an injury settlement with the team.

Assuming Parsons is no longer on the roster, the Raiders have four more cuts to make to get to the limit of 75 players. Rosters must be at 53 on Saturday, two days after Thursday’s preseason finale in Seattle.

— As the players opened their first team session Sunday, Terrelle Pryor was at quarterback and Menelik Watson at left tackle.

— Players who were working with the athletic training staff and not on the field were strong safety Tyvon Branch (ribs), wide receiver Brice Butler (hamstring) and wide receiver Rod Streater (concussion).

— Players who were suited up and on the field included cornerback Tracy Porter (groin), free safety Usama Young (hamstring) and wide receiver Juron Criner (undisclosed injury).

ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
– As the players opened their first team session Sunday, Terrelle Pryor was at quarterback and Menelik Watson at left tackle.

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Great.

Here we have a guy who has only played the game at the college level for three semesters with one semester at junior college and who has played RT, so the coaches play him at LT.

You got Barnes, who played LT most of his career, now playing at RT;
Wiz, who played LG most of his college career now playing center;
and Watson, a RT playing at LT.

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A LOT of OL end up playing different positions in the NFL than they played in college. On college teams with thinner talent, the best guys get moved where they are most needed, even if it’s not their natural (NFL level) position. For example, you see a lot of college LTs moved to RT in the NFL, and a lot of RTs moved to OG.

I’m all for the Raiders figuring out where these guys project for the long haul and getting them play time there in this development year.

The funny/ironic thing is that you have people that think Pryor is the best option despite his obvious flaws because he might as well learn on the job this season. Yet when it’s another position, especially one that god forbid, might impact Pryor’s chances, that’s not OK.

Memo to the Brigade:

Pryor is not RGII, Luck or Newton. He’s not a high first round pick that they are going to tailor the offense to for the long haul. They are going to put in place the offense that they want for the long haul and try the players that project into that when the time is right. Olsen will make short term adjustments to match the talent, but not wholesale changes that are predicated on the unlikely success of a non-franchise type player.

He’s not going to short circuit the development of one position to help another. In fact, the more cerebral people on here consisting are saying build the lines first and the rest second. So if getting Watson reps now means a better line in 2014 and beyond, then sorry Flynn or Pryor, that’s the right path.

0ak r8rs

Raiders For Life Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
in other news, get well soon Streater & Butler!

He was pumped after being out of action for so long. Maybe he worked his rear-end off to get ready before the opener. He had a nice return and was jacked. I don’t have a problem with it especially considering the other option was J Cribbs. Why don’t you go sit in the corner and think about your cross posting and all the stupid things you say?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

J Ford stupid little selfish smurf did you see how self absorbed he is?

Raider Fan in Fremont

Haters still hating. Just can get behind a exciting electric guy like Pryor, especially after the way Flynn has bombed.

Have they converted Pryor to Tight End yet?
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Pryor hasn’t played a real game yet against game planned motivated opponents. After we see his jump pass against NFLer’s then we can truly evaluate his future. But as I have said, the choice looks right now between having a Ricky Stanzi type Q or a Calvin Johnson type of receiver. Once again, most of you knuckleheads want a Ricky Stanzi type Q on the roster. I would opt for a Calvin Johnson type receiver.

– Players who were working with the athletic training staff and not on the field were strong safety Tyvon Branch (ribs), wide receiver Brice Butler (hamstring) and wide receiver Rod Streater (concussion).

– Players who were suited up and on the field included cornerback Tracy Porter (groin), free safety Usama Young (hamstring) and wide receiver Juron Criner (undisclosed injury).

I rode the fence and tried to have faith the coaches and GM knew what they were doing bringing in Flynn.

However, after seeing this play out, it was a terrible move.

Pryor should have been named the QB when last season ended and the money and pick wasted on Flynn should have been used on the O-line.

This is a huge setback for Reggie’s credibility.
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Jamista Clown you are sooooo confused you don’t know which way is up do you? Seriously. You don’t know which way is up.

Whoknows

Alex7 Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
lol Raiderfan

stats lie? So when it says you ran for 4 yards, something different happened? When it says you threw a pick-6, maybe it wasn’t. Or if it says you lost, it might not be true. Got it.
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Yes stats lie. Like for example you stats saying Flynn had an 82 yd completion, when in actuality he had a -2 yard completion with an 84 yard run after the catch.

raideralex99

Great job Reggie … trading away draft picks for a QB who can’t even make a 4-12 team … Ouch!
“In Reggie We Trust” … LMFAO

Pryor hasn’t played a real game yet against game planned motivated opponents. After we see his jump pass against NFLer’s then we can truly evaluate his future. But as I have said, the choice looks right now between having a Ricky Stanzi type Q or a Calvin Johnson type of receiver. Once again, most of you knuckleheads want a Ricky Stanzi type Q on the roster. I would opt for a Calvin Johnson type receiver.

0ak r8rs

Back-N-Black Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
I rode the fence and tried to have faith the coaches and GM knew what they were doing bringing in Flynn.

However, after seeing this play out, it was a terrible move.

Pryor should have been named the QB when last season ended and the money and pick wasted on Flynn should have been used on the O-line.

This is a huge setback for Reggie’s credibility.

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Don’t agree. What would have killed Reggie’s credibility would have been to name Pryor the starter after an unimpressive first two years. Particularly when Pryor was the only QB on the roster at the time. If Veldheer doesn’t go down, and Pryor doesn’t improve so dramatically, than Flynn would have been the clear cut starter.

I give Reggie and DA credit for doing what they can to fix what’s going on. Unfortunately, football isn’t played in a bubble.

Raider Fan in Fremont

Flynn tanked it. Nuff said.

alex7

Zy

great post at 159.

Fremont Fan

Some of us just want to see it more than once. That’s all. And we’re still baffled why he doesn’t know he can throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking a 7-yard sideline sack. And his clock management. And he JUST NOW getting over 50% completions for the fall.

stats lie? So when it says you ran for 4 yards, something different happened? When it says you threw a pick-6, maybe it wasn’t. Or if it says you lost, it might not be true. Got it.
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Yes stats lie. Like for example you stats saying Flynn had an 82 yd completion, when in actuality he had a -2 yard completion with an 84 yard run after the catch.
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Or Flynn is a 95+ when he really isn’t.

Al_is_theraiders

more amd more people keep realizing shrek is a disaster…soon mark will also.

MistaBrown Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Can someone translate this mindless drivel into english ?

By the way genius where is R Seymour playing ?
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Seymour Bush Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

Pryor hasn’t played a real game yet against game planned motivated opponents. After we see his jump pass against NFLer’s then we can truly evaluate his future. But as I have said, the choice looks right now between having a Ricky Stanzi type Q or a Calvin Johnson type of receiver. Once again, most of you knuckleheads want a Ricky Stanzi type Q on the roster. I would opt for a Calvin Johnson type receiver.
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Jamist Clown now just uses whatever I say to him and repeats it back. Like a chimp. What’s next Jamista, the I’m rubber and you’re glue blast? What a moron!

My best explanation for Pryor as the presumed “starter” for week 4 of preseason:

They need to see what he can do against #1s. They’ve already seen it with Flynn, and it ain’t pretty. Pryor has a chance to look better or not and help with the decision making. They also need to see how Pryor helps an over matched OL or not when facing the same stacked deck Flynn has been facing.

Most people seem to be forgetting the Pryor ain’t done squat against a #1 defense, even though he’s only had a few shots at it. It makes sense to get him one more. And he’s getting the luxury of the last shot, which means it’s the one where the offense has had the most reps to clean up the major flaws (aka RBs missing obvious blitz assignment). If he blows it here, he has nobody else to blame.

So what happens if Pryor goes out and gets dominated by Seattle’s starters and the Flynn lights it up with the #2s? Based on this blog’s what have you done for me lately thinking, that would automatically make Flynn the starter I guess.

Zymurge Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:13 pm
My best explanation for Pryor as the presumed “starter” for week 4 of preseason:

They need to see what he can do against #1s.
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He is not going to play against one’s. The 4th preseason game is one game where most starters are held out. In fact, even tho Pryor came in the last game, Chicago had already taken some of their better players like Peppers out.

Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
oh oh… here come the excuses….DA…saying Matt Flynn is suffering from tendinitis of the arm…lol. Have to cover his asz flynn arm is sore from smacking his forehead after every throw…
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Pete Carroll part deux.

alex7

the crazies would find a way to spin this:

“So what happens if Pryor goes out and gets dominated by Seattle’s starters and the Flynn lights it up with the #2s? Based on this blog’s what have you done for me lately thinking, that would automatically make Flynn the starter I guess.”

Raider Fan in Fremont

RaidO Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
“– As the players opened their first team session Sunday, Terrelle Pryor was at quarterback and Menelik Watson at left tackle.”
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“SHOW ME THE MONEY”

Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
more amd more people keep realizing shrek is a disaster…soon mark will also.
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It is still too early to call McKenzie a disaster. But this team has played unbelievably poorly two weeks in a row, and there better not be a third week.

lefty12

Dell mentioned yesterday he swill be asking RM questions during a conference call.

Raiders for life

Levi Damien ‏@LeviDamien 30s
Pryor will start the #Raiders final
Preseason game in Seattle with Flynn resting sore arm.
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Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 4m
Flynn had tendinitis issues in Seattle & its still bugging him. Allen said they’re “not making big deal out of it,” just resting him for bit
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Levi Damien ‏@LeviDamien 11m
Menelik Watson will start at left tackle versus the Seahawks in #Raiders final preseason game.
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Raider Fan in Fremont

Al_is_theraiders Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
oh oh… here come the excuses….DA…saying Matt Flynn is suffering from tendinitis of the arm…lol. Have to cover his asz flynn arm is sore from smacking his forehead after every throw…
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Have they converted Pryor to Tight End yet?
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Pryor hasn’t played a real game yet against game planned motivated opponents. After we see his jump pass against NFLer’s then we can truly evaluate his future. But as I have said, the choice looks right now between having a Ricky Stanzi type Q or a Calvin Johnson type of receiver. Once again, most of you knuckleheads want a Ricky Stanzi type Q on the roster. I would opt for a Calvin Johnson type receiver.

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In fact, I would love for DA to come out and name Pryor the starter today for the Seattle game. Let Seattle game plan their #1s against him after watching film on his lock-onto-a-single-target tendencies and limited set of plays. And don’t forget, Seattle easily shut down the whiners gimmick pistol crap and showed the rest of the league how to be disciplined in your assignments. Pryor either get shut down in his read-option package or forced to run the “real” offense, where he applies his single read approach to a complex multi-read WCO.

And if he fails, the Brigade will already have a slew of excuses cued up about it not being fair to the guy that had his number changed to better reflect his IQ.

Raider Fan in Fremont

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 4m
Flynn had tendinitis issues in Seattle & its still bugging him. Allen said they’re “not making big deal out of it,” just resting him for bit
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Of course he is not making a big deal about it. It’s an excuse, not a big deal.
“JUST COVERIN MY ASS, BOSS”

raideralex99

Palmer looks good this year …. 3 games … No picks.
I guess it sure helps when you have a coach who has a game plan and WRs who run the right routes.
After this year … everyone will see Reggie was the wrong guy and Hue should have got the job. Watch Palmer win with the Cards and the Bengals running game with Hue as coach will be in the top 5.

3 things you need for a winning team … A good QB … good coach and a good pass rusher.
Reggie got rid of the first two things but will be able to get his great rusher next year with Clowney .

ENGLANDRAIDER

Zymurge Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 12:35 pm
– As the players opened their first team session Sunday, Terrelle Pryor was at quarterback and Menelik Watson at left tackle.

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Great.

Here we have a guy who has only played the game at the college level for three semesters with one semester at junior college and who has played RT, so the coaches play him at LT.

You got Barnes, who played LT most of his career, now playing at RT;
Wiz, who played LG most of his college career now playing center;
and Watson, a RT playing at LT.

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A LOT of OL end up playing different positions in the NFL than they played in college. On college teams with thinner talent, the best guys get moved where they are most needed, even if it’s not their natural (NFL level) position. For example, you see a lot of college LTs moved to RT in the NFL, and a lot of RTs moved to OG.

I’m all for the Raiders figuring out where these guys project for the long haul and getting them play time there in this development year.

The funny/ironic thing is that you have people that think Pryor is the best option despite his obvious flaws because he might as well learn on the job this season. Yet when it’s another position, especially one that god forbid, might impact Pryor’s chances, that’s not OK.

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Your first paragraph is true but we already know that.
And it makes little sense to play people out of position as the year starts.

Your second paragraph I really like and I do think that is the attitude that we should be taking.
We’re not going anywhere. Let’s see who we can keep and establish a foundatio this year.