Both states have taken steps to stop illegal immigration in their states. I believe Nebraska passed their ballot last night to go after employeers and businesses that hire illegals. I'm not sure if this is true, but a source that I talk with from time to time told me that Ohio may be putting a bill together to cut down on illegals from my state. I would love to see Ohio and other states start doing the same.

Some liberals will have you believe that whoever want's a crackdown on this are racists people. That's simply not true. I have nothing against legal immigration to our states. Illegals I have a problem with!

All they are doing is enforcing the laws that are already on the books! RIGHT??

Yeah, since the federal government won't do any enforcing. As far as the pending lawsuit the federal government is filling against Arizona, I say to them (government) BRING IT ON! Arizona should be able to defend themselves in court and win the lawsuit!

Sorry Pink Toes......The problem is the laws on the books are not being enforced. The people in the gulf are starting to take matters into their own hands and it's starting here in Az. The militia's or posses are going to start patroling the border.

StraddleMyNose

Jun 22 @ 6:28PM

I heard conflicting news stories on this last night as far as the city voting to the whole state voting. But to be honest, Bruce, a bill will probably come up to where the whole state will be able to vote on it as well making it a state law.

Sorry Pink Toes......The problem is the laws on the books are not being enforced

That's what I meant ma..... At least AZ is trying to enforce them... I didn't doubt what Straddle said and do my "homework"... unlike Bruce. It's starting somewhere in NE so hopefully it will pick up in the entire state, and hopefully the entire nation.

Sheriff Joe...... Can't have him until he finish's his job here.... Going to be big violence on this side of the border, with a bunch of gun toting rednecks running around down there. Was down in Sononita a couple of weeks ago and had about 50 run arcoss the highway in front of me,,,,only about 3 miles from a check point,,,,

I think we have a 'ground swell' growing in the states against D.C. on several fronts! I personally am glad to see this! This administration as well as several previous ones, have done nothing but sit on their hands on matters that are important to our country and get paid for it too! How stupid are we, to let this continue on??

I've said it before, if you want real change in our country, all politicians will have to be forced by law, to be legally responsible for their actions, like the average citizen is forced to do- or suffer the consequences- again, like the average citizen is forced to do! Until this happens, we'll always have politicians running amuck, doing what they want- because right now, they can!

A just punishment in my opinion for breaking laws, corruption, scandals and/or things done that would do harm to our citizens would be: 1st time, you're on notice- 2nd time, you're out of office... period! No lawering up, none of that crap- if the indisputable facts show themselves... you're gone!

None of this: it's Un-Constitutional BS- they (politicians) have no respect for our Constitution, obviously- so, no respect for them! Bust a few polito peabrains and watch how fast the rest of them grow up!

One comment I read a LOT is..... who's going to do all the crappy jobs that illegals are currently doing. Well, those jobs were getting done before and they'll still get done. High School & college kids were always looking for part time & summer jobs and still will. People looking for a little second income were doing those jobs and would again. We have people out of work because too many jobs are taken by illegals....... who, btw..... don't pay taxes and ship half the money back down to mexico.The liberal critics say..... the Arizona law will promote...(gasp) racial profiling! OMG.... how horrible would THAT be!?!?!? Let me tell you....... if they pull someone over for speeding and they don't have a license, don't have a passport, and don't speak english....... is it profiling.... or COMMON SENSE to think..... gee, they MIGHT be here illegally?

I am very much like RevDocLove in that I can be labeled a liberal (I loathe being labeled), but I am conservative on illegal immigration. I believe that if you throw employers and upper management in jail or prison (not just fines) that hire them, you cut off the money flow and eliminate much of the incentive for the illegals to sneak in.

Well, those jobs were getting done before

Add to that, that since 9/11, many people with any kind of a felony, no matter how far back it was, are excluded from a wide variety of jobs, so the labor pool is there.

illegals....... who, btw..... don't pay taxes

That is not really true. What happens is that they get taxes withheld by the employers and then they don't file for a refund. Additionally, they pay sales taxes like everybody else and property taxes are rolled into their rent by the landlords.

Respectfully, you can make your point without throwing the word "liberal" out there.

StraddleMyNose

Jun 23 @ 4:21PM

Respectfully, you can make your point without throwing the word "liberal" out there.

No, it truly does go hand in hand with this one. You don't consider yourself a liberal, and you are for stopping illegal immigration. Most liberals feel differently on this issue, and are not for trying to stop it.

Most liberals feel differently on this issue, and are not for trying to stop it.

Ok...majority of my friends, my family, and co workers tend to vote Democrat. Or, Liberal if that is what one wants to call it. Let me tell you how these people feel about the illegal immigration issue:

My parents and sisters do NOT support illegal immigration. My friends and 90% of my co workers do NOT support illegal immigration.

They do support laws that try to stop illegal immigration. And they do not call those who try to do something about "racist".

It is possible to discuss without having to throw out labels.

StraddleMyNose

Jun 23 @ 4:53PM

Dawn, I disagree with you, and I hold true to that fact that MOST liberals feel that way. Now, your family may be that way, but I see so many who are. You may not like labels such as throwing the liberal word around, but it's not without merrit on my part. I am very justified in using that word for this discusion.