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Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

I would certainly like a wager on that thought. Of course 5 years from now you would no doubt weasel about what you meant by being "a good NBA player" and say something like "See, he has not made any all-star teams after being picked 13th!" while ignoring the fact that nobody says either of these two players being discussed is likely ever going to be an NBA all-star. Most GOOD drafts have about 3-5 players with all-star potential, and few envision this as a good draft year.

To me a pick in the 11-20 range is a very good one if he becomes a rotation player and earns a second NBA contract with teh rteam that drafted him. A pick in the 5-10 range comes with some more expectations, but if he becomes a starter and earns a second NBA contract with the team that drafted him, I'd think that it means he was a good pick too.

I'd put Zeller in the 5-10 range and Oladipo in the 11-20 range. Based on what NBA draftniks are saying, such evaluations are not tainted in the least by any IU homerism.

Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 02-13-2013 at 11:31 AM.

The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!)

Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

I would certainly like a wager on that thought. Of course 5 years from now you would no doubt weasel about what you meant by being "a good NBA player" and say something like "See, he has not made any all-star teams after being picked 13th!" while ignoring the fact that nobody says either of these two players being discussed is likely ever going to be an NBA all-star. Most GOOD drafts have about 3-5 players with all-star potential, and few envision this as a good draft year.

To me a pick in the 11-20 range is a very good one if he becomes a rotation player and earns a second NBA contract with teh rteam that drafted him. A pick in the 5-10 range comes with some more expectations, but if he becomes a starter and earns a second NBA contract with the team that drafted him, I'd think that it means he was a good pick too.

I'd put Zeller in the 5-10 range and Victor in the 11-20 range. Based on what NBA draftniks are saying, such evaluations are not tainted in the least by any IU homerism.

Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

That's an entirely different statement than saying, as you did, that neither will be a good NBA player.

I don't see ANYBODY AT ALL saying that they will be all-stars. Thus you seem to be involved in a heated argument with precisely nobody, and yet you cannot even come to grips with that thought!

The Pacers will picking in the 20s, and you argue that not picking one of the 2-3 players with all-star potential would mean it would be a wasted pick. Does that not strike you as insanely illogical?

Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 02-13-2013 at 11:57 AM.

The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!)

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Re: Who to draft? Burke or Oladipo?

Oladipo will be picked before Zeller IMO.

Though Zeller may have someone reach on him now with Noel's injury appearing pretty serious. Though I would not do that. (Coopdog23 will interpret this post like this "Zeller will be picked number 1, Oladipo will be picked number 2. They will both revolutionize and define their positions, nay, the game of basketball itself for the next 15 years on their way to 15 straight NBA Finals appearances against each other that will be so epic, they will just rename the NBA the Zelladipo Basketball Association")