Video: The Alabama slammer

posted at 10:45 am on June 8, 2007 by Allahpundit

The dispute was bipartisan but alas, my friends, it was the Republican who came unhinged. Bishop, the puncher, says he was called an SOB; Barron, the punchee, denies it. As you’ll see, Bishop admits what he did was wrong but his understanding of its wrongness is perhaps unduly nuanced:

Bishop said he should not have hit him on the Senate floor, but that the Democratic Senator deserved to be punched, and that Bishop would do it again under the same circumstances…

“If he calls me that again, it will happen again,” he said.

The fight itself is as exciting as a fight between sexagenarians can be. Click the image to watch.

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The best quote was this one “It’s certainly a black eye on the Legislature and the Senate in particular,” Republican Rep. Jay Love said.

This should happen more often, people think they can say whatever they want, and not be held accountable. Liberals would be a lot more soft spoken and respectful if they knew when they called someone a liar, racist,or baby killer they would lose a few teeth.

National Union – NRP chairman Zevulun Orlev said, “Ehud Olmert would sell the Golan Heights for his seat. He is trying to save his own skin, and his statement regarding a withdrawal from the Golan is a desperate attempt to survive.”

Now Olmert is going to have to pop Orlev. I don’t understand that strategy – just going to encourage more of the same. Sounds like they need Reagan as bad as we do.

Listen,stupid, what conservative has spray painted our national monuments, what liberal needs to have body guards to speak at a university, what conservative has broken into a liberals home and attacked them for being a liberal? Get it, everyone knows nutcases on both sides, but the liberal side encourages it, promotes it, they live it.

You want to go tit for tat? Let’s start here. List the names of the liberal college speakers who have been attacked, shouted down on college campuses, and I will list the names of the conservates who have been shouted down and attacked. In the past couple of years (you will need a couple of years to find one,I will only need a few months to find several).
Let’s see who’s list is longer. I will wait for your list.

See this is what I am talking about, if we were face to face I guarantee you would not call me that name.

Now, where is your list to show how mean spirited the conservatives are?
I will throw two names out
Horowitz
Coulter
Both attacked and shouted down on college campuses, both need body guards at speaking engagements because of the physical abuse and threats. (I have seveal more)

Now you throw two names out that are liberals that need body guards and have been physically attacked.

Put up or shut up. Prove that conservatives are “mean”. This is your chance.

I’d call you whatever you like to your face and you would just slink away to hide behind your keyboard. Well.. you might throw that at me!
Are you saying that conservatives don’t call democrats traitors, liars, etc.
You are spinning in the best Clintonian tradition.

What – put the guy in jail for throwing a lousy punch? there shouldn’t be a charge because those guys have a lot more to worry about than a stupid argument among 60 year olds. they should just let it go.

“Southerners”…AP, if you had a lot more of this you wouldn’t have people standing in the well of the Senate of The United States and calling the President of the United States a liar, nazi, storm trooper, etc…bust a few mouths and these liberal sissies will realize it don’t work anymore.

I am taking that as a “I don’t have an answer, you must be right”. You see, I had some facts, and you had some insults. In the conservative world, insults do not trump facts…in your world insults, pie throwing, spray painting national monuments, screaming and disrupting speakers is appropriate and in fact a viable tactic. We live in different worlds, with different standards.

I suppose republicans who insisted on calling someone a traitor, liar or evil might learn to be a lot more soft spoken as well.

Bradky on June 8, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Except that liberals prove that they are, in fact, anti-American traitors every chance they get. Here’s a clue: when you assume that your country is at fault EVERY TIME there’s a crisis that’s anti-American. When you use Memorial Day or Veterans Day as a platform to talk about how “evil” America is, or what war criminals our vets are, you’re anti-American, (and tactless and trashy.) When you say you love America, but trash every free market idea that America stands for, that’s anti-American. You can’t say you “love America” when you hate everything about it. You liberals even hate the Free Press!!! Who’s trying to bring back the “Fairness Doctrine”? All because you’re losers who can’t stand any competition to your ridiculous – and yes – often traitorous ideas.

He would be a lot more passive in the same room. I have met many boys like him.
He roams these pages pickin a fight, and every once in awhile it is fun to jerk his chain. He is not much of a fighter. All of us just throw a few facts out there, and he begins whining. He ain’t from Alambama, that’s for sure.

My husband was born in Mobile, Alabama. He’s the most calm, reasonable person I know. You can call him anything you want and he’ll just smile at you. You malign his Momma and he’ll sweep the floor with you without blinking.

He would be a lot more passive in the same room. I have met many boys like him.
He roams these pages pickin a fight, and every once in awhile it is fun to jerk his chain. He is not much of a fighter. All of us just throw a few facts out there, and he begins whining. He ain’t from Alambama, that’s for sure.

right2bright on June 8, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Woof! better than being a drooling head bobber incapable of processing anything but talking points from others.

I’ve noticed by comparing posts here and on dKos that liberals seem much much more adept at insulting people than conservatives.

I’d be interested to find out if it’s genetic or learned. I would have to bet that it’s learned, through years of practice. I mean, how could it be any other way? The liberal platform is so full of wishful thinking and half-truths that they only way you could promote it is through character assassination of your opposition.

Over 3 hours from my challenge to you, and still no facts, but a lot of insults. Other bloggers may start to believe that you don’t have any substance, better get to work on backing up your assertion…I gave you a couple of names, where are yours?
I would say 1/2 hour more would make it 4 hours, plenty of time to Google your retort. What? You couldn’t find any?…what a surprise, the liberals are the antagonists, the facists, the ones that insult and not give facts. Oh yeah, you will not stoop to such petty “strawman” tactics, even with no facts, you know the “truth”, you can feel the truth, it is in your little bleeding heart. Those, those conservatives are eeviiil people, and they aren’t nice…they use facts, that’s not fair…they are racists, dictators, murderers, and poo poo heads.

You’re joking right? You have yet to say anything of relevance in order to have someone prove your point. The difference between accusing Bush of lying, calling him a mass murderer, and calling him an idiot and someone accusing Bill Clinton of lying, being an adulterer, and covering up Flight 800 is huge. The evidence for the accusations against Clinton is overwhelming. The evidence for the accusations is non-existent. (this is merely an example)

If someone were to refer to me as an idiot, which has happened from time to time, and I informed them of my status as a college student this would tend to refute their claim. If I referred to the same person as an idiot (which I wouldn’t bother) and they informed me of their GED, and job at the local McDonalds this would be evidence in favor of my claim.

If I accuse a democrat such as Harry Reid of being a traitor, and in so doing produce the definition of a traitor, and give an example, I am not making false accusations, I am proving my accusation to be true, which makes it no longer an accusation, but just plain truth.

This is the difference between Conservatives and Liberals, I have never met a single Liberal that could provide evidence to support their views in regards to Bush. They merely have searing hatred toward him, and that’s more than enough for them.

Got to love the “Southerners” crack. I’m glad those bastions of non-violence like New York, Detroit, Chicago, and Philly uphold the tradition of peace and love. I mean lets condemn a man for personally responding to a personal insult. Much better for an entire crowd to respond to something important and truly insulting….like a game.

Unfortunately, the Alabama Public TV cameraman chose to follow Bishop in the aftermath and not Barron. If the camera had followed Barron, you’d see that when he tried to get back up, he was groggy, and fell onto another desk which prevented him from going down to the floor.

I offer this for those who say Bishop didn’t hit him hard, in reality, Bishop “cleaned his clock” with a blow square to the chin.

On a pretty popular local radio talk show this AM, Bishop came on and admitted that he was wrong but that the slur to Bishop’s mother just took hold of him. He also described how he had to admonish his own son for expressing how proud he was of his dad, saying that while he stands behind what he did, it was the wrong place and wrong time for such an action. He also mentioned that he’s waiting for an apology from Barron before he offers one himself.

Those not from the south, like AP, who like to bash on us or poke fun, remember that we still take personal honor very seriously. Call me a SOB to my face and I’ll deliver a right hook to your face, I may be arrested for it, I may be sued and lose, but I’ll still do it, without hesitation.

Bishop guaranteed his spot in the Alabama Senate for as long as he wants it by proving to his constituents that he’s simply not going to take sh*t.

Barron is not well liked in most of Alabama and most here are cheering Bishop even while the yankees are jeering the south.

Sorry, I think the conspiracy theories about Clinton were just as ridiculous as the ones about Bush. Stupidity is stupidity regardless of which side of the spectrum it comes from. Of course, the 9/11 theory is far more insidious…especially when you consider that we are now at war.

I’m not talking about theories about Clinton, I’m talking about things that actually happened of which there is proof. Now, if we’re talking about the things of which there is no proof, I would agree with you, but we’re not. I’m talking about making jokes about Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Linda Trip. These aren’t theories, they’re knowns. Seriously, why would you compare those knowns to the theories about Bush?