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Yes you did escape them, dominating a game for two quarters means nothing if they almost came back to tie it up in the last two quarters, you also didnt dominate the eagles with Vick in, you dominated a team with Kolb in, big difference. And maybe the pack will play better and prove me wrong, but no way have they or Rodgers lived up to the hype thus far.

You can sit there and make excuses as to why or how we dominated the Eagles but say injuries are part of the game and not be understanding as to why the Packers are struggling. Remember, an injury to Kolb was the only reason Vick was in against us.

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You can sit there and make excuses as to why or how we dominated the Eagles but say injuries are part of the game and not be understanding as to why the Packers are struggling. Remember, an injury to Kolb was the only reason Vick was in against us.

How the hell can you even argue that you dominated them? You built a little lead then almost blew it once Philly put in a competent QB. You won by one score. Give me a ****** break.

I thought maybe looking painfully average for the first 5 games of the year would get rid of this notion that the Packers are some type of powerhouse. They've still proven nothing. They're paper champs at this point.

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How the hell can you even argue that you dominated them? You built a little lead then almost blew it once Philly put in a competent QB. You won by one score. Give me a ****** break.

I thought maybe looking painfully average for the first 5 games of the year would get rid of this notion that the Packers are some type of powerhouse. They've still proven nothing. They're paper champs at this point.

Built a little lead? Ok, 17 point is little, I guess.
Won by 3? Nope, by 7. Close though. Did you even watch the game?

It's 5 games into the season. We haven't looked great, but we put ourselves in position to win games. One game from the best in the NFC. We have the heart of our schedule coming up. We tend to start off slow and if we figure out how to play the second half of any game, we'll be right back at the top. 6-2 at the bye.

Paper champs? What team has proven anything at this point?

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Built a little lead? Ok, 17 point is little, I guess.
Won by 3? Nope, by 7. Close though.

It's 5 games into the season. We haven't looked great, but we put ourselves in position to win games. One game from the best in the NFC. We have the heart of our schedule coming up. We tend to start off slow and if we figure out how to play the second half of any game, we'll be right back at the top. 6-2 at the bye.

3,7 I don't care. The point remains exactly the same.

I really can't buy the "put ourselves in position to win games" argument when you've played absolutely no one this year other than the Eagles who played one of the worst starting QB's in the league the majority of the game.

You might turn it around, there is obviously talent there, but to be honest I think McCarthy is a joke and you're goin to need to make big improvements in your secondary and Rodgers needs to start coming through late in these games. He sucked yesterday.

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haha who cares if you had a 17 point lead but only won by a single score. OMG, the Pats totally dominated the Colts in the AFC championship for two whole quarters before they came back to beat us. WE TOTALLY DOMINATEZZZZ

Originally posted by WMD

Jesse realizing Walt was Santa Claus could really shake things up.

Originally posted by gpngc

I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

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Washington's a team that lost a LOT of close games last year. They're in the same situation this year, except they have a legit head coach and QB. So they're winning ugly instead of losing ugly.

Also, a healthy Urlacher and Briggs plus the addition of Peppers was exactly what the Bears needed, and they became an elite defense again like I thought they would. Jury is still out on how well the Cutler/Martz marriage will turn out.

Minny and Dallas were horribly overrated coming into this season. Minny's got a chance to bounce back with the Moss trade. I think they blow the doors off the Jets tonight.

Then again, I had SF as the 3 seed and Carolina as a wildcard. So what do I know.

Eh, Washington's still not very good, they're good at making you play their game, which is ugly-ugly football, but they're still not a very good team and I just can't see them taking a playoff spot.

As for the Bears I'm with you. Peppers was going to have a monster year this year and his play is making that D elite.

Is it really, though? I never understood the Dallas hype. Other than Ware, I don't see a ton of top-end talent on that team. Sure, Romo and the receivers are a nice group, but half the league has a talented quarterback and receivers. The o-line is crappy, the runningbacks are crappy, the d-line is crappy outside of Ratliff, and the secondary is old and crappy. The coaching staff absolutely deserves a ton of heat, but that wasn't an overly talented team to begin with.

Ratliff's elite, Ware's elite, Austin's elite, Witten was elite even though he's having a down year and they've got a whole lot of good players, guys like Mike Jenkins, Dez, Spencer, Romo and their running backs. Talent is not the problem in Dallas.

Damn straight we are! We took a year off due to hiring Bill Sheridan! We fixed that problem, and now our players and adjusting well to a new scheme. We will only get better now. Plus so far, our prior injured players are back. We actually have safeties now. No more CC Brown!

Anyone see any current odds at any sportsbook? I think this is about how they would have it. But if the Grape Apes win at the Jets tonight, I would expect they would move the Purple way way up.
I currently would put my money on the Vikings to win the NFC. The Williams never even got suspended so I suspect Farve won't either.

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At face value that may be true. Obviously from what we have seen of Chris Ivory, you know it isn't a pass play if he is in the backfield. That allows defenses to play against the pass during those situations/personnel sets. However, I feel as if our Play-book is depleted in certain situations without Bush lined up as a back or in the slot. That has to have a deep under-lying impact on play selection and have a ripple effect from there on out.