The Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity shows are funded by Clear Channel. Clear Channel also owns 850 radio stations nationwide. Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital (Yes Romney's company). So a very small group of very wealth men control the message sent to 115 million American's every week.

Those wealthy men do not want their agendas tampered with by a Pope who is actually preaching the real message of the bible. This Pope has shown by example that he cares for the sick and the poor. He's said that trickle down economics is a fraud (which it is) and that the rich aren't following God's message.

These wealthy men are going to go toe to toe with a major religion to promote their agenda of creating an American Oligarchy.

NFA:The Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity shows are funded by Clear Channel. Clear Channel also owns 850 radio stations nationwide. Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital (Yes Romney's company). So a very small group of very wealth men control the message sent to 115 million American's every week.

Those wealthy men do not want their agendas tampered with by a Pope who is actually preaching the real message of the bible. This Pope has shown by example that he cares for the sick and the poor. He's said that trickle down economics is a fraud (which it is) and that the rich aren't following God's message.

These wealthy men are going to go toe to toe with a major religion to promote their agenda of creating an American Oligarchy.

Coincidentally the Clear Channel family is represented by Michael McCaul, a person so un-electable even in Texas that Tom DeLay had to carve out a district just for him (TX-10)

He has no idea what goes on in his district - when a major defense contractor pulled out, the Chronicle asked him about it, and he was apparently totally unaware that 10,000 well-paid jobs just disappeared from his district.

But he's a Republican in Texas, and with the assets of Clear Channel at his disposal, I'd say it's unlikely he actually needs to give a sh*t.

NFA:The Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity shows are funded by Clear Channel. Clear Channel also owns 850 radio stations nationwide. Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital (Yes Romney's company). So a very small group of very wealth men control the message sent to 115 million American's every week.

Those wealthy men do not want their agendas tampered with by a Pope who is actually preaching the real message of the bible. This Pope has shown by example that he cares for the sick and the poor. He's said that trickle down economics is a fraud (which it is) and that the rich aren't following God's message.

These wealthy men are going to go toe to toe with a major religion to promote their agenda of creating an American Oligarchy.

The same type of oligarchy is in place for print and television media as well - a few control the many. Most of that consolidation occurred last two decades.

So an incalculably rich monolith best known for legions of never-questioning acolytes bent on spreading the gospel under pain of death and for covering up wanton abuse of little boys...versus the Catholic Church?

White Christian protestants were always taught to detest the evil papist Catholics. A lot of people don't realize what a shiatstorm it was for most WASP's when Kennedy ran for president.They were sure that the U.S. would be enslaved by the Vatican. I was born shortly before Kennedy was elected and grew up Catholic, so the phenomenon of bringing Catholics into the hard right religious movement always seemed very odd to me, and tenuous.

Oh poor Rush. When it's the Dalai Lama or some brown guy with a funny name telling folks the same thing, it's OK, because, obviously, they just don't know any better, but it's almost as if some hippy from Nazareth had gotten to the Pope...

Good luck with this one. I mean, it won't really change the Prosperity Gospel folks, because they parted ways with the Bible a long while ago in favor of their wallets, but Rush and his ilk might want to choke back their bile a bit, because this is a fight they really don't want to pick.

You judge a man by his enemies, and this point, Pope Francis is pissing off all the right people. Good on him.

Wow, Rush was willing to cut the Pope some slack. I'm sure the Pope was mighty grateful that El Rushbo cut him some slack. But now, The Fat One is PO'd...Watch out, Pope!! Rush may not cut you any slack in the future!! Then you'll be in REAL trouble! So shape up Francis, before Rush makes your life a living hell!

Mr. Coffee Nerves:So an incalculably rich monolith best known for legions of never-questioning acolytes bent on spreading the gospel under pain of death and for covering up wanton abuse of little boys...versus the Catholic Church?

Three Crooked Squirrels:As a lapsed Catholic and non-believer, I've been thinking that I kind of like this Pope. The fact that Rush is at odds with him only confirms my suspicion: He must not be half bad.

i'm openly pagan and even I like this Pope. I don't agree with all his policies but...DAYUM does he got the prosperity gospel preachers and their minions in an uproar! Francis is quite a thorny problem for the Republicans. they can't simply dismiss him or his comments. oh sure, the US evangelicals have never liked the Catholics but they need their support for the pro-life agenda. so there's a limit on how far they can go with retaliation. Not to mention that there is NOTHING the likes of Rush Limbaugh can do to threaten the Pope to bring him into line. Even trying to lean on the Pope is a public relations nightmare for the Right wing. They can't shut the guy up, they can't ignore him, and even when they disagree with him they have to be respectful of the Church or they risk a schism in the ranks.

Pope Francis is a smart guy. He's found the one fracture point in the GOP that they can't do anything about and he just hammered a spike thru it with a sledgehammer. I hope he gives it another whack!

I have heard MANY MANY people say what you just said. Think about it, this Pope has aligned himself and church leadership with the bible, which has attracted a huge number of non-believers. Who would have guessed?

Weaver95:Even trying to lean on the Pope is a public relations nightmare for the Right wing. They can't shut the guy up, they can't ignore him, and even when they disagree with him they have to be respectful of the Church or they risk a schism in the ranks.

There is always one reliable way to shut him up. I'm just saying he should carefully check the undercarriage of the popemobile before firing her up.

I was gonna say in another thread that we needed to strap Kanye West to a rocket and launch him directly into the Sun, but now I think we'd have room to squeeze in Rush on that one-way trip to the nearest star.

bluorangefyre:I was gonna say in another thread that we needed to strap Kanye West to a rocket and launch him directly into the Sun, but now I think we'd have room to squeeze in Rush on that one-way trip to the nearest star.

Kanye is a colossal douchebag but if I had a gun with 2 bullets and he was standing between me and Rush, I would have to say, "Excuse me Mr. West, I have to double tap this motherfarker".

Weaver95:Three Crooked Squirrels: As a lapsed Catholic and non-believer, I've been thinking that I kind of like this Pope. The fact that Rush is at odds with him only confirms my suspicion: He must not be half bad.

i'm openly pagan and even I like this Pope. I don't agree with all his policies but...DAYUM does he got the prosperity gospel preachers and their minions in an uproar! Francis is quite a thorny problem for the Republicans. they can't simply dismiss him or his comments. oh sure, the US evangelicals have never liked the Catholics but they need their support for the pro-life agenda. so there's a limit on how far they can go with retaliation. Not to mention that there is NOTHING the likes of Rush Limbaugh can do to threaten the Pope to bring him into line. Even trying to lean on the Pope is a public relations nightmare for the Right wing. They can't shut the guy up, they can't ignore him, and even when they disagree with him they have to be respectful of the Church or they risk a schism in the ranks.

Pope Francis is a smart guy. He's found the one fracture point in the GOP that they can't do anything about and he just hammered a spike thru it with a sledgehammer. I hope he gives it another whack!

Francis is certainly doing his part to take on this prosperity gospel shiat, and that's a good thing. Wow, me kinda liking a pope....that is scary.

31So Moses went back to the Lord and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. 32But now, please forgive their sin-but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written."

33The Lord replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin."

31So Moses went back to the Lord and said, "Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. 32But now, please forgive their sin-but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written."

33The Lord replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin."

/ still rooting for the Catholics on this one.//if it eventually turns into a bloody Crusade, I'd shed no tears watching the Neo-Cons being "re-educated" by a militant Catholic Order*/// *bring back the Teutonic Knights

Frederick:NFA: The Beck, Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity shows are funded by Clear Channel. Clear Channel also owns 850 radio stations nationwide. Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital (Yes Romney's company). So a very small group of very wealth men control the message sent to 115 million American's every week.

Those wealthy men do not want their agendas tampered with by a Pope who is actually preaching the real message of the bible. This Pope has shown by example that he cares for the sick and the poor. He's said that trickle down economics is a fraud (which it is) and that the rich aren't following God's message.

These wealthy men are going to go toe to toe with a major religion to promote their agenda of creating an American Oligarchy.

The same type of oligarchy is in place for print and television media as well - a few control the many. Most of that consolidation occurred last two decades.

/we truly are frogs in a slowly boiling pot

The free market has spoken. If this were a bad situation then people wouldn't buy their products.

Mr. Coffee Nerves:So an incalculably rich monolith best known for legions of never-questioning acolytes bent on spreading the gospel under pain of death and for covering up wanton abuse of little boys...versus the Catholic Church?

unyon:Weaver95: Even trying to lean on the Pope is a public relations nightmare for the Right wing. They can't shut the guy up, they can't ignore him, and even when they disagree with him they have to be respectful of the Church or they risk a schism in the ranks.

There is always one reliable way to shut him up. I'm just saying he should carefully check the undercarriage of the popemobile before firing her up.