I'm interested to hear your defense of that statement. The "On Axis" is determined by your body and the disc. You could throw a disc in space, and it would still have an axis it's being moved about. That axis has a pole, just like earth, which is the point where the lever's edge juxtaposed to the disc is connected to the body.

Hang on...

it's the axis of disc rotation, no? So, the axis in question is perp to the disc, through the center of the disc. Torque is force applied in a circular motion perpendicular to an axis.

So off-axis torque means that part of the rotational force you put on the disc is NOT perpendicular to the axis of the disc, regardless of how your body's leaning.

If this isn't right, then I'm banning myself from this thread, to avoid confusion.

OP here Dan. I can't tell if you are talking down to me or if you are really just pointing out the obvious. I'm fine with what Dave was teaching the first 10 minutes in this video Dan. I am able to execute those types of shots, and do so on a weekly basis playing in the Advanced division. But after a few times of him saying "does that make sense" talking about the 2 angles... and it still didn't to me... I posted here to see what DGCR had to say about it.

OP here Dan. I can't tell if you are talking down to me or if you are really just pointing out the obvious. I'm fine with what Dave was teaching the first 10 minutes in this video Dan. I am able to execute those types of shots, and do so on a weekly basis playing in the Advanced division. But after a few times of him saying "does that make sense" talking about the 2 angles... and it still didn't to me... I posted here to see what DGCR had to say about it.

While you started the thread, no post I make will be directed solely at you. I thought the way the thread was headed, it needed to be re-reiterated. So that other readers don't get the impression this is a basic movement/fundamental to the game.