The hyperframe noid isn't strong enough to trip the sear with the classic on/off installed. Need to get the ULT or the Centerflag on/off pin for either of the valves to work with the Hyperframe or Spydermag frame.

heh, well thanks for coming to the rescue. i appreciate the help. out of curiousity, i heard that the emag/rt valves dont take the ult, what would be needed to get a ult to work?

Some emag valves take a ULT without problem, some don't without modification which should be left to professionals. The easiest way to verify whether a specific e-mag valve will take a ULT on/off is to literally try it.