1. Winchester Model 70 (pre-1964) It was not even an original design. The Model 70 was an improvement of Winchester's Model 54, which in turn was based on the Mauser Model 98. But upon its birth in 1936, it kindled a love affair that has never died. Winchester advertised it as "the rifleman's rifle,-¿ and the slogan stuck. This was the big-game rifle by which all others were measured, and it is still, in my opinion, the best factory bolt action ever made.

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2. Mauser Model 98 Imagine someone building an automobile two years before the end of the 19th century, five years before the Wright brothers flew. Now imagine that this same automobile is still very much in use, still regarded by many as the best car around, and still in production. That is exactly what Peter Paul Mauser did when he designed his Model 98 rifle in Germany.

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3. Winchester Model 12 It is well known among the snobbier of shotgun enthusiasts that no repeating shotgun can handle as well as an over/under or a side-by-side. But there is one repeater that points like the Finger of Doom itself-"the Model 12 pump.

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4. Remington Model 1100 Autoloading shotguns had been around for a long time by 1963, but the new Model 1100 was different. Previous self-loaders were heavy and handled like sledgehammers. If they were recoil operated, they kicked like mules. People tolerated them only because they offered three or more fast shots. The 1100, on the other hand, was sleek, moderate in weight, and handled splendidly. Most important, it had softened recoil.

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5. Smith & Wesson Model 29 Some people date the birth of S&W's Model 29 .44 Magnum to the 1970 movie Dirty Harry, but they are ignorant and deserve our scorn. The Model 29 debuted in 1955 and is one of those rare firearms that force us to redefine what a gun can do. The .44 Magnum enabled handgunners to not only hunt big game but to shoot it at rifle-caliber distances.

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6. Winchester Model 94 It is useful only at comparatively short range; it does not take to scope mounting; it is not accurate by today's standards. Every attempt to torture it into something else has failed. But if you say "deer rifle," you mean the Model 94 lever action. Short and light, it kicks hardly at all, gets on target fast, is ultrareliable, and carries comfortably in the hand.

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7. Remington Model 700 In the years after World War II, Remington hired a pair of brilliant designers named Mike Walker and Wayne Leek. The two men realized that if the company was to survive, it could not make guns the way it had before 1941. The new generation of Remingtons would have to be far simpler and cheaper to make. And so they came out with a horrible-looking rifle called the Model 721. It was cheap to make and looked it, but it was more accurate than any other factory rifle at the time.

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8. Benelli Autoloader Newton's First Law of Motion-"an object at rest tends to remain at rest-"drives the ultradependable Benelli action, which redefined autoloading reliability in the 1990s.

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9. Remington XP-100 The development of handguns has progressed in a series of seismic jolts. One came in 1963, when Remington announced the XP-100, which looked like a prop from a Buck Rogers movie. It was not so much a handgun as a one-handed rifle. To make the gun, Remington utilized the bolt action from its Model 600 carbine, a Zytel stock borrowed from the Model 66 .22 autoloader, and a barrel rib and sights from the Model 660 magnum carbine. Designers didn't stop there, though. They also cooked up a red-hot varmint cartridge called the .221 Fireball to chamber in the new gun. The result was historic: For the first time, varmint hunters could pound pasture poodles without a rifle, and handgunning had taken on a whole new dimension.

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10. Remington Model 870 Think of it as a Winchester Model 12 that is easy to manufacture. The Model 870 made its debut in 1950 as one of the first of Remington's "new generation" of guns that did away with the complex machining of the past. And it may be sacrilege to say so, but the plebian 870 is probably as good a gun as the aristocratic Model 12. It pumps just as fast, points as well, is just as reliable, and is unbelievably long-lived. The late shotgunning great Rudy Etchen put 4 million rounds through his 870 with just some minor parts replacement to keep it going. The 870 is still with us, made in every configuration known to man, and it will probably be around for many years more.

I would have to disagree form the broad best ever made. GE Gatling gun was fabulous over Viet Nam. 16incher was a winner in the Pacific. Chain guns should not be left out. 6 inchers were extremely accurate. M14 and M1 Garand should be in the best.

One could pretty well argue that the 1911 is the greatest autoloading pistol of all time, though there would be room for disagreement. Certainly, though, there should be more than one autoloading pistol on a list of the 50 greatest firearms. While the Ruger Mark I is probably worthy of a spot on a top-50 list, I would hardly consider it to be the greatest autoloading pistol of all time.

Yank the Remington 870 since the Winchester Model 12 is more appropriate. Yank the XP-100. Substitute the M1911A1 for the XP-100. I agree with the rest but not as a FINAL list whatever that means. But this list is fine for a "sporting list."

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posted on 01/03/2009 3:58:46 PM PST
by ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)

I stand corrected - didn't know that Olin, Browning and FN were going to continue the marque. Still, most of the Winchesters on the list are no longer made; looks like the Model 70 just resumed production in 2008. I doubt that the list is an "incestuous" plug for an advertiser.

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posted on 01/04/2009 3:03:01 PM PST
by Charles Martel
(Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)

This is definitely the top 10 list for hunting rifles, however two of these rifles play a big role in the military as well. The Winchestor model 70 and Remington model 700 are used by Marine snipers in sta platoons all across the Marine Corps. Forget the McMillans and Barrets. The most widely used sniper rifles in the Marine Corps are still these two rifles.

"If this was best guns listing actually taking the world (not just North America) into account, the AK-47 would be the top firearm, no contest."

That would depend on your criteria. If your criteria was what is the simplest, cheapest auto rifle to learn how to use and never has to be cleaned then I would agree. The AK-47 is the way to go. If you are basing this on precision and accuracy, then the AK-47 is not your ideal weapon. Again, before you come up with a top 10 list, you have to lay out the criteria that the weapons are being rated by.

Clearly, the S&W M&P should be at the top of the list (and I mean the .38 special revolver, not that silly plastic thing they make now). This gun, in its various minor incarnations, is the most produced single handgun of all time (yes, there are surely many, many more 1911’s, but from a zillion different manufacturers). It has been the trusted sidearm of the policeman, civilian, soldier, and airman for almost a hundred years.

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