posted at 1:01 pm on June 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday morning, I posted the audio from my interview of Senator Marco Rubio from Thursday night’s Hugh Hewitt show. Later in the day, Senator Jeff Sessions came on my show to give his perspective on the Gang of Eight immigration reform effort. Duane “Generalissimo” Patterson joined me as Sessions outlined his objections to the current approach, his frustration at the defeat of the Grassley amendment, and the outlook for an upcoming CBO score on the Gang of Eight proposal:

The show was posted in its entirety yesterday, and this takes place at around the 45-minute mark. It’s a hot topic, though, and I figured that Hot Air readers would appreciate an opportunity to hear Sen. Session’s remarks if they missed the show yesterday.

The CBO score may come out as soon as Monday, but if not it should be sometime this week. Sessions argues that the traditional ten-year analysis will provide a falsely positive look at the impact, since those getting normalized won’t generate extra costs in government programs until well after the first decade (in most cases). Will the CBO score the impact farther out than the first decade? That’s something to watch.

Sessions and his allies also want to see how the CBO will treat the impact on wages from normalization and increased immigration. Will it include the extra costs that have to be absorbed at the state and local levels? What about means-tested programs, especially the Earned Income Tax Credit? Sessions explains his concerns specifically about EITC in the interview with Duane and me. Be sure to watch it all.

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We are screwed. I heard a legislative analysis yesterday. Everything the public has heard about the bill is a lie. It doubles legal immigration.The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens. It removes drunken driving as a crime for illegals in the application process. It provides no border security. It allows administrative waivers of every enforcement provision. It provides free health care including free premium payments up to $9,000 a year in perpetuity for all legal and illegal aliens. It allows unlimited perpetual asylum for residents of dangerous countries, code for Muslim countries. It adds a new layer of immigration appeals to ensure that no one can be deported.The bill provides no enforcement mechanism for adverse rulings. It does not penalize employers of illegals and actually makes it a crime to check on citizenship status. It sets up a huge program for paying community organizers to acclimate immigrants to ensure that they receive medical coverage, food stamps and other entitlements, including free legal services to sue employers, the government and to fight deportation. All paid for by the taxpayer and managed by left wing recruiters for the DNC. It does not require English to be learned. It does not require back taxes to be paid unless properly assessed to a correct SSN. Previously taken illegal tax credits will not be criminalized or need be repaid.

She was speaking at the Faith and Freedom Conference. It was part of a longer speech. CNN did broadcast it live, so perhaps a video will be available later, but so far there isn’t a link one can provide. Be patient.

So they want unlimited immigration, because under the yolk (both economic and cultural) of the systems they have created to maintain their hold on power, American families are dwindling, and not having kids.

Sessions argues that the traditional ten-year analysis will provide a falsely positive look at the impact, since those getting normalized won’t generate extra costs in government programs until well after the first decade (in most cases). Will the CBO score the impact farther out than the first decade?

The CBO will only score it for the first 10 years, because the whole scam is explicitly set up for that.

The amnestied illegal aliens are denied taxpayer-funded benefits — but only for the first 10 years.

Of course, illegal aliens currently are not legally eligible to receive food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, and a host of other taxpayer-funded benefits, but we all know they’re getting them anyway, to the tune of billions of dollars every year. That will continue once the illegal aliens are amnestied, because we all know that Obama is not suddenly going to care about enforcing federal law just because another federal law is passed.

But the CBO will score the amnesty bill as if the law will be enforced as written (even though we all know it will not be), and they will give us some rosy scenario in which tens of millions of low-skill, 10th-grade educated, limited English, food stamp and welfare-receiving foreigners will add many trillions of dollars to our economy.

It’s all a farce of course. But we’re just supposed to wink and go along with it, because it’s what Big Government and Big Business want, and it’s part of the New World Order — so just suck it up comrades.

It’s a hot topic, though, and I figured that Hot Air readers would appreciate an opportunity to hear Sen. Session’s explanation for his vote to confirm Eric Holder, the most hilarious nitwit to hold the office of Attorney General in modern history

We are screwed. I heard a legislative analysis yesterday. Everything the public has heard about the bill is a lie. It doubles legal immigration.The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens. It removes drunken driving as a crime for illegals in the application process. It provides no border security. It allows administrative waivers of every enforcement provision. It provides free health care including free premium payments up to $9,000 a year in perpetuity for all legal and illegal aliens. It allows unlimited perpetual asylum for residents of dangerous countries, code for Muslim countries. It adds a new layer of immigration appeals to ensure that no one can be deported.The bill provides no enforcement mechanism for adverse rulings. It does not penalize employers of illegals and actually makes it a crime to check on citizenship status. It sets up a huge program for paying community organizers to acclimate immigrants to ensure that they receive medical coverage, food stamps and other entitlements, including free legal services to sue employers, the government and to fight deportation. All paid for by the taxpayer and managed by left wing recruiters for the DNC. It does not require English to be learned. It does not require back taxes to be paid unless properly assessed to a correct SSN. Previously taken illegal tax credits will not be criminalized or need be repaid.
pat on June 15, 2013 at 1:19 PM

I, for one, would like your source on this for further reading and personal evaluation.

No, there will be a box on the amnesty application form. It will ask the applicant to check the box if paying the fine would be a “financial hardship” for the applicant. (That is the loophole that’s written into the amnesty bill).

Of course, La Raza will be spending the hundreds of millions of our tax dollars they’re getting under the amnesty bill to run seminars, in which they’ll instruct illegal aliens how to check the “financial hardship” box so they can avoid paying the fine.

They currently do this when they sign up illegal aliens to vote. See the box on the form where it asks: Are you a U.S. citizen? Just check “yes” amigo. Nobody ever verifies your citizenship, and in the unlikely event you are ever asked about it, you’ll just say you misunderstood. You can’t be prosecuted unless you intended to lie, so you’ll just pretend you didn’t.

The U.S. government is a criminal enterprise, folks. And we’re funding it.

Q: Which state is the weakest link in the chain when it comes to illegal immigration and national security?

Is it California? Arizona? New Mexico? Texas?

How about HAWAII…

…Sheriff Arpaio reported concerns that Hawaii’s statutes appeared to be in conflict with federal immigration law and the birth registration policy in Hawaii posed a threat to national security.

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In 1982, Hawaii revised a long standing statute (§ 338.17.8) allowing the issuance of birth certificates to children born out of state. Hawaii declares these foreign born children to be American citizens simply by virtue of an application by any adult making representations on behalf of the parents, and simply supplying documentation substantiating the parents had resided in Hawaii and paid income tax to the state Hawaii for one year prior to the birth of the child. Thus, by statutory provision, Hawaii has granted upon itself the unique power to confer citizenship to children not born in the United States, and to children not born to United States citizen parents, but to children actually born on foreign soil.
[§338-17.8] Certificates for Children Born Out of State.

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There is nothing in Hawaii Revised Statute § 338.17.8 to require that this birth certificate be marked as the child being born out of state, nor that was the child born within the United States or its territories. There is no requirement in this statute that at least one parent provide proof of United States citizenship.

This section only requires a declaration (and proof which is not defined and is based upon requirements deemed appropriate by the Director) that the parents were residents of Hawaii. It does not require that the parents were citizens of the United States.

By statutory provision Hawaii has granted upon itself the unique power to confer citizenship to children not born in the United States, and to children not born to United States citizen parents, but to children actually born on foreign soil.

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It would appear that Hawaii Revised Statute § 338.17.8 is in direct conflict with the Immigration and Nationality Act, in that United States citizenship maybe be conferred to an individual who is not entitled to such citizenship.

See I.N.A. §§ 301, et seq., which comprehensively regulates how a child born out of the United States acquires U.S. Citizenship. Even this would require at least on parent be a United States citizen at the time of the birth.

This comprehensive regulation would clearly be meant to exclude any regulation in the area by the States. Arizona v. United States, 11-182 (June, 2012).

Compulsory registration of births, authorized by Hawaii Revised Law §57-8 requires all births of be registered. It also permits the registration for an unattended birth to be accepted on the representation of only one of the parents. No other witnesses are necessary for a claimed unattended birth. Conceivably, a parent could have given birth outside of the U.S., and claimed that it was an unattended birth (no witnesses) in Honolulu.

Local registrar to prepare birth certificate, authorized by Hawaii Revised Law §57-8 is bristling with the fraudulent potential by compelling the local registrar to prepare a birth certificate for an alleged unattended birth based solely uncorroborated testimony from anyone claiming to have had knowledge of the birth taking place.

Under this statute, a birth could exist outside of the U.S., and any person could represent false information to the local registrar. The registrar is compelled to file the certificate.

Additionally, there is no requirement for a parent or relative, providing identification to be present at time of registration. Any person, a relative, friend or stranger may registrar the birth of a child while both the mother and baby were outside of the country.

There is no verification process and no way to be certain of the actual identify of the parents.

I, for one, would like your source on this for further reading and personal evaluation.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Sadly, everything pat reports about the amnesty bill is true. If you want to know what the amnesty bill really says (as opposed to the lies Rubio has been peddling), here’s a good place to start your reading:

It’s all a farce of course. But we’re just supposed to wink and go along with it, because it’s what Big Government(Democrats) and Big Business(Republicans) want, and it’s part of the New World Order — so just suck it up comrades.
AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Neither party is fighting for you, for us, for the people, or for immigrants. Sure there’s a little bit of both big gov and big biz in both parties, but that’s the general scheme and the only real difference between the two parties.

D*mn them all, if you fight for, argue for, believe in, or push for either party, you’re an idiot and you’ve bought in to be exactly where they want you to be, complicit and blinded to the truth while being focused on the rhetoric and emotional appeals.

We’ve been using Mexico as a degrading “free trade” cheap labor pool for over a decade now. If money and products should be allowed to move freely across borders for the sake of profitability, people should be able to as well. Otherwise you’re just trying to trap them in the factory life our corporations use their country for.

I’ve got no problem with reforming our immigration system. I’ve got no problem with accepting those who are already here even.

But nothing “they” are going has anything to do at all with good policy or good ideas and everything to do with serving their special interest masters.

She was speaking at the Faith and Freedom Conference. It was part of a longer speech. CNN did broadcast it live, so perhaps a video will be available later, but so far there isn’t a link one can provide. Be patient.

Employers must complete Form I-9 to document verification of the identity and employment authorization of each new employee (both citizen and noncitizen) hired after November 6, 1986, to work in the United States.

Note, too, that the word “eligibility” has been dropped from that sentence…

Where is Obama’s Form I-9 and accompanying hardcopy documentation from the list of Acceptable Documentation?

The “document” Obama “released” was a PDF, not a hardcopy document, and that PDF is undoubtedly a forgery – a fabrication that was created electronically from pieces of other information, including a separate layer with a linked image of the Registrar’s stamp, which was ROTATED 90 DEGREES and placed into the PDF. There is absolutely no possible way that that could have been the result of a simple scan of an existing hardcopy Birth Certificate.

Something about the “Obama birth narrative” is not 100% true… and this PDF forgery was part of the cover-up.

The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens.

And anyone that claims that this is not amnesty is a deceitful, lying, waste of space, time, money, and air. An American citizen would face a maximum penalty of ten years in prison and fines of up to $250,000 for using a fraudulent SS card, but under this bill an illegal alien faces a $1,000 penalty covering ALL his many offenses, a penalty which in many cases we know will be waived. Then, they will be issued a new SS number without any past bad credit or arrest records.

And here’s another kicker. Illegal aliens will be granted amnesty for crimes they have committed, while government employees who discover SS fraud, identity theft, or perjury on I-9 forms while reviewing applications for provisional status would be prohibited from notifying victims, law enforcement, etc. with a threat of a $10,000 penalty. This is 10x more than the $1,000 penalty paid by an illegal alien who has committed those crimes including felony identity theft.

So whose country is this anyway? It certainly doesn’t seem to belong to law abiding American citizens.

You have this completely wrong. The “birth narrative” is there to stop any progress being made on getting hold of his school records. In any case, he’s already been elected twice so there’s no point rehashing any of this. Hillary is up for 2016 and the GOP is engaged in a circular firing squad.

We’ve been using Mexico as a degrading “free trade” cheap labor pool for over a decade now. If money and products should be allowed to move freely across borders for the sake of profitability, people should be able to as well. Otherwise you’re just trying to trap them in the factory life our corporations use their country for.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM

We can have open borders, or we can have a giant welfare state, but we can’t have both.

And the labor we’ve been importing from Mexico has been far from “cheap.” U.S. taxpayers subsidize it to the tune of billions of dollars a year. Employers who hire Mexicans (or El Salvadorans, or Hondurans, etc.) to pick their crops or pluck their chickens or slaughter their beef are able to get away with paying illegal alien workers below-market wages and no benefits like health insurance because U.S. taxpayers pick up the bill for them.

And if you really want freedom of movement across the border, then you’re going to have to change the laws not just in the U.S., but in Mexico as well. They’re hardly promoting “free trade” there either.

In the sense that it is deliberately designed to invite massive fraud, it is like Pigford.

But the fraud of the amnesty bill will dwarf the Pigford fraud. Pigford just ripped taxpayers off for a few billion dollars. The amnesty fraud will rip off trillions, and may very well destroy the entire nation.

We can have open borders, or we can have a giant welfare state, but we can’t have both.And the labor we’ve been importing from Mexico has been far from “cheap.” U.S. taxpayers subsidize it to the tune of billions of dollars a year. Employers who hire Mexicans (or El Salvadorans, or Hondurans, etc.) to pick their crops or pluck their chickens or slaughter their beef are able to get away with paying illegal alien workers below-market wages and no benefits like health insurance because U.S. taxpayers pick up the bill for them.
And if you really want freedom of movement across the border, then you’re going to have to change the laws not just in the U.S., but in Mexico as well. They’re hardly promoting “free trade” there either.
AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Haha! No, you’ve misinterpreted what I was saying. I’m not talking about immigrant labor in the US. I’m talking about US companies that pushed for “free trade” agreements in order to be able to move their factories to Mexico in order to use them as a cheap labor pool where they can send the products back up north of the border and sell them at American prices, produced by Mexican wage labor, which has been continually pushed down over the years since Nafta’s passage, making an already bad situation worse, but also extremely profitable for our corporate overlords.

That’s what I mean by cheap labor pool. The majority of those who come here come trying to escape that cycle and finally be able to provide themselves with other options beyond moving to a city in Mexico and working for nothing and some change a day, where there’s ten people outside the door of you don’t like your working conditions or wages.

If that’s the approach we want to continue with in regards to our southern neighbor, then I believe the free movement of people should be allowed, and not just the free movement of capital and products across national lines.

Otherwise it’s just predatory. And the corporate overloads of Mexico just approve it right along too, since theyre the one percent of the population that benefits as the expense of the citizens.

Both are aimed at facilitating a One Party Fascist State.
workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Oh hush, we’ve been an in effect one party state for practically all of our citizens living memory. The only reason you didn’t see it before is because you were too busy buying into one side or the others bs delivery.

It’s only now that you’re even beginning to recognize it and the hook in your cheek is still forcing you to lean a little one way or the other.

It’s better to just accept it, and go from there.

Our government is not for us, and hasn’t been no matter who you believed when they passionately told you different and about that shining beacon on the hill. It was nothing but flavor to make the sh*t they’ve been feeding us more palatable, and us, more controllable and accepting.

Jeb Bush is the King George of our time. Or, the Bush Family collectively. Jeb without his name would be nothing.

But really, his comments yesterday including the line about immigrants being “more fertile” are without a doubt the most provocative, bigoted and downright creepy public statements I have heard in my life. Could his statements have displayed more of a Freudian fixation on the Other? Could he have more clearly said:

“You inbred white trash have had your time, and you should just go and die quickly”.

He should be drawn and quartered for saying this. He should be completely hounded out of the public sphere forever.

Last summer, my cousin and I took a brief tour along the US Border between Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa when returning to his apartment in Austin after a trip to Monterrey and Saltillo. In the largest town we hit, I think it was Rio Grande City, right by Falcon Lake, the biggest building by far in that town of maybe ten to fifteen thousand was the WIC office. Yes, that’s right- the Women, Infant and Children welfare office, i.e., the “Your Entire Vibrant Livelihood as Paid for by Whitey” mission.

He should be drawn and quartered for saying this. He should be completely hounded out of the public sphere forever.

sartana on June 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I’m sorry to say this, but we haven’t yet approached the level of moral and political force, organization and determination required to flush the quisling fools like Jeb Bush from our system. I was wrong to be optimistic in 2011 when I thought we’d crossed a threshold and there was no way a Romney could ever win the nomination. The ruling class proved to be stronger and more vicious in their hatred of us than I’d imagined. We’re going to have to get stronger and angrier.

Actually, law enforcement officials who ignored this for five years are just now paying attention and now understand that the PDF is undoubtedly a forgery:
youtube.com/watch?v=uCIALY
BPinNC on June 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Aaaaaaaand….. Nobody gives a s***. Truly.

You might as well still be arguing about hanging chads in Florida. It all comes out sounding the same, and all matters about the same amount. Which is to say, it doesn’t matter at all, and the people couldn’t care less, even of you and the guy I posted that reply to just can’t give up beating on that poor dead horse.

So stop looking stupid. Bush stole the 2000 election! No way did those towers fall without help! And Obama’s birth certificate should allows us to not have to have him as the president!!

If he were a Republican, if he were Reagan, YOU wouldn’t give a s***. So let go of the whip, brother. It’s of no use anymore and all serves to make you and those around you look bad for not telling you to quit.

Shite, do I wish we’d picked up more Senate seats during the past two election cycles.

To be honest, I blame Bush and the spendthrift RINOs for all the spending and acceding to liberals housing problems, which yielded the 2008 meltdown and, in turn, ushered in Dem Congressional majorities from 2006 to 2010 and Obama in 2008.