i dont understand how graff cant be art? by definition, even the most crude, sloppy tag is art. Sure, it may not be a Monet painting, but it still holds some merit in my eyes.

What Cornbread was doing in the late 60s and 70s, could arguably be looked as avant garde art. Sure, the laws of US stated that what he was doing and what followers would go on to do as vandalism, but it still doesnt take away the artistic element to it. Sure, it was just his name he was scribbling to get a girls attention, but thats one of the most simplistic forms of a so called 'love-letter'.

just because something is deemed vandalism, doesnt mean it destroys the artistic aspect of the said 'piece of art'

put it simply it depends on who's seeing it if you et 50 people and ask them 25 will say its art and 25 will say no it's all opinion because you can give a million reasons why and theres always a contradiction vise versa so you guy's argue its not getting you anywere toy's shouldnt be allowed in this forum because they know no history so toys opinions dont matter so toy's just listen and learn. This is for everybody with 5 or more years. DeseOner 2W and im out goodnight

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i think its art, just on a different level. i mean if that jackson pollacks piece of shit "blue poles" is then i dont see why bright coloured pieces aren't art.
I still think its vandalism, don't get me wrong, but maybe thats what makes it "art".
sure toy shit looks whack and no one likes it, but almost every decent writer i know has great drawing skills.
each to their own in the end, i hate heaps of shit i see in art galleries, some i like. It's the same with graff

just because it's labeled as vandalism (and yes i know it's vandelism, iv been caught twice) doesn't mean it's not art. I have seen galleries of large canvases with nothing but one color scribbles and the artist claims it portrays angst, and raw power. But the reason i think those kind of artist dont see tagging as art, is becuase we do it for cheaper. My tag portrays much more then just raw power. it states! it destroys! It breaths more creation. But if you dont see it as art, thats cool, just keep writing, cuz i do. and i'll always stop to admire it.

Just because it's vandalism does not in any way deny the right for it to be art. It's not just a line, or a scribble sprayed on a wall. Each graffiti "artist" has a sense of passion behind what they do and what they want to gain out of graffiti. Most importantly, there is an extent to this. Each letter has a science behind it, each piece, tag, or throwie they all need that certain flow and originality. I hate seeing the same bubble letters over and over, but thats why you escalate and get your own style and then its ART. Real art, visualized straight form your brain onto that wall. But all in all it doesn't have to be art to be accepted. I personally prefer bombing over piecing, cause fuck the system, fuck society. Spread the hate, spread the love do whatever the fuck you want. Just paint the walls, and stay up, but just make sure the system gets fucked harder and harder each time.

I consider graffiti as a form of art. I think of a actual nice piece that has taken time and effort e.g. pieces that the Ironlak Family do, Ewok Pose Sofles Sirum etc is... Sloppy tags that some people put up I consider vandalism, it is just people putting a bit of paint on peoples property etc just to get there name out there. Half of the tags that I see are toys that do there tags then put scribbles threw it so it is barely readable. But over all apart from the tags like that I consider graffiti as a art. Considering we are doing it in art at the moment, im sure a lot of other people do to. But everyone has there own opinions that's just mine haha no hate.

I voted yes....Some of this fuckin shit is freakin dope! Some of it make you think WHHAAAT that control over a can is just amazing! However, I still love destruction and the pure bombing, getting up where you didn't think possible as such, no other artform really does that.