Agree that the rush was pretty non existant until Oher went out....
so there is still a question mark. Pressure did step up after that, but also Del Rio made some line adjustments.

But Phillips did get the 2.5 when Flacco couldn't step up in the pocket. The CENTER of our line pushed the Bmore line back and that was a big reason for the 4 sacks we did get, and also the reason there was no running room for the ratbirds. Overall we got a lot more pressure on Flacco than last January. We aren't going to set the world on fire in sacks before Von gets back but we will hold our own. Thanks to having a stout interior.

Exactly. The DTs did a very good job in taking away the run, then forcing pressure up the middle. The importance of that can't be taken for granted. We were still able to outmuscle their OL in the trenches and disrupt the QB.

Only 4-2? I'm sorry but who in our first 6 games really looks like they are a match for this team? I'm not seeing anyone.

Don't sleep on the Giants. That could be a tough game in the Meadowlands. I'm not remotely saying they're "better than us", just that the prospect of them beating us in their house isn't all that outlandish.

Don't sleep on the Giants. That could be a tough game in the Meadowlands. I'm not remotely saying they're "better than us", just that the prospect of them beating us in their house isn't all that outlandish.

The Giants are not even remotely in the league of the Broncos. I'm not saying they couldn't play down to them and blow a close game, that is always a possibility, but I think anyone who actually predicts the Giants beating the Broncos just isn't paying attention.

The Giants are not even remotely in the league of the Broncos. I'm not saying they couldn't play down to them and blow a close game, that is always a possibility, but I think anyone who actually predicts the Giants beating the Broncos just isn't paying attention.

I also think we could be in for a bit of letdown type game next week. We just destroyed the champs, now we go east coast, non-division game, etc. It would not be the worst thing in the world to happen to lose it being that it's a non-division game.

...anyone who actually predicts the Giants beating the Broncos just isn't paying attention.

I'm not predicting a Giants win. But you said nobody can match the Broncos in their first 6 games, and I'm saying losing to the Giants in the Meadowlands wouldn't really be all that shocking. Good organization, decent defense, good QB, on the road, on the east coast, letdown, etc. Broncos went 2-2 playing EST last season.

I'm not predicting a Giants win. But you said nobody can match the Broncos in their first 6 games, and I'm saying losing to the Giants in the Meadowlands wouldn't really be all that shocking. Good organization, decent defense, good QB, on the road, on the east coast, letdown, etc. Broncos went 2-2 playing EST last season.

I'm saying no team can match up with the Broncos in the first 6 games. That doesn't mean the Broncos can't beat themselves in those games. It just means the Broncos should be expected to win all of them.

No, not measuring him up against Doom or anything like that. I just know a lot of people are thinking our pass rush is fine without Doom and Von, and I don't know that that's true. Our pressure was inconsistent last night and much of it had to be generated by singling up in coverage to get it, and some of it came at the expense of a backup RT. Again, I'm thrilled with the result last night but there are some circumstances that need to be considered in an unbiased evaluation of the whole thing.

I don't think for a second anybody here thinks without Miller on the field the pass rush isn't going to suffer to some degree. I will say though, with a much improved secondary, I think we'll get more coverage sacks then we did last year. But to have Phillips as depth once Miller comes back is going to be icing on the cake. I think Phillips will give you just as many sacks as Doom would but he also has that ability to cover those flats and he has great ball skills. To me, losing Doom now that we have Phillips really isn't an issue. The issue was losing Miller for 6 games. But hey, only 5 more to go and he'll be out there destroying it...........

I can't wait to see a nickle pkg with Miller and Phillips on each side. Honestly, with Miller back, it's going to open it up even more for Phillips. And with both guys being true LB's and not just a DE like Doom is, the defenses will be left guessing if they're going to rush or drop back.

The Giants are not even remotely in the league of the Broncos. I'm not saying they couldn't play down to them and blow a close game, that is always a possibility, but I think anyone who actually predicts the Giants beating the Broncos just isn't paying attention.

Manning bowl, man. everything else goes out the window when you have something unpredictable like that. you never know. in this league, if a QB is balling basically nothing else matters. it's not like Eli doesn't have weapons.

Don't sleep on the Giants. That could be a tough game in the Meadowlands. I'm not remotely saying they're "better than us", just that the prospect of them beating us in their house isn't all that outlandish.

I agree. I believe the Giants will be a force in the NFC playoffs, but they start slow every year. If this was a December game I might have some worries, but.in September; they are getting curb stomped.