Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 7, 2019 19:54:32 GMT -5

I'm trying to think of the best year for volleyball this decade, and I think it was 2014. Hancock, Vansant (probably UW's best and highest-ceiling team post-CT before Beals went down), Hamson, Eckerman as seniors leading stacked teams, Stanford's prior superclass at their peak, Carlini at the height of her powers with the nobody-believes-in-us group, Sealy deploying the innovative 1-5 offense ("For the love of god, somebody set Karsta").....

Post by LordVader on Jan 7, 2019 20:04:35 GMT -5

No. The list of fabulous athletes that have never won a title is a long one.

Maybe pick among the 10 NPOYs?

Nah, not the route I would take. We're talking about the best individual player. NPOY way too often overweights reaching a Final Four. I thought Daly Santana was better than Sarah Wilhite, for instance. But, Wilhite made the Final Four. I also thought Carlini was better than Hancock. But, Hancock's team made the FFs and won titles. This isn't tennis or golf, though. It's a team sport.

Post by Disc808 on Jan 7, 2019 20:07:03 GMT -5

Nah, not the route I would take. We're talking about the best individual player. NPOY way too often overweights reaching a Final Four. I thought Daly Santana was better than Sarah Wilhite, for instance. But, Wilhite made the Final Four. I also thought Carlini was better than Hancock. But, Hancock's team made the FFs and won titles. This isn't tennis or golf, though. It's a team sport.

Post by LordVader on Jan 7, 2019 20:11:31 GMT -5

Nah, not the route I would take. We're talking about the best individual player. NPOY way too often overweights reaching a Final Four. I thought Daly Santana was better than Sarah Wilhite, for instance. But, Wilhite made the Final Four. I also thought Carlini was better than Hancock. But, Hancock's team made the FFs and won titles. This isn't tennis or golf, though. It's a team sport.

Umm except Santana made the FF in 2015

Did she? Man, did I ever get my years mixed up. Thought 2014 was her last year. Nevermind, then. Though, I still thought Santana was better than Wilhite. I'll stick to that.

Post by Disc808 on Jan 7, 2019 20:15:53 GMT -5

I'm trying to think of the best year for volleyball this decade, and I think it was 2014. Hancock, Vansant (probably UW's best and highest-ceiling team post-CT before Beals went down), Hamson, Eckerman as seniors leading stacked teams, Stanford's prior superclass at their peak, Carlini at the height of her powers with the nobody-believes-in-us group, Sealy deploying the innovative 1-5 offense ("For the love of god, somebody set Karsta").....

Hancock won POY that year and a natty, so let's give it to her.

That was a really good year for the PAC. Oregon #10 seed with Brenner, Arizona with a really good season led by Kingdon, ASU making the second round, OSU making the third round, Simpson at Colorado, Utah taking it to 5 with NE in the post season...

Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 7, 2019 20:20:28 GMT -5

I'm trying to think of the best year for volleyball this decade, and I think it was 2014. Hancock, Vansant (probably UW's best and highest-ceiling team post-CT before Beals went down), Hamson, Eckerman as seniors leading stacked teams, Stanford's prior superclass at their peak, Carlini at the height of her powers with the nobody-believes-in-us group, Sealy deploying the innovative 1-5 offense ("For the love of god, somebody set Karsta").....

Hancock won POY that year and a natty, so let's give it to her.

That was a really good year for the PAC. Oregon #10 seed with Brenner, Arizona with a really good season led by Kingdon, ASU making the second round, OSU making the third round, Simpson at Colorado, Utah taking it to 5 with NE in the post season...

Not 100% sold on that being a great year for the PAC. Hard to be when SC is way down and UCLA is a one-woman team. DIdn't help that UW was injured in the post-season and Oregon closed the year really poorly (and was kinda lucky to get a soft subregional). That was definitely OSU's best team though, and they were really tough to play against with that much size at the net and MK on the left. Was that the year Cal fell off a cliff or was that 2013?