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No, you can't open. Closing is the easiest part, it's getting their guard down to present an opportunity to close, is the tough part.

This is exactly right.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

Future advice for upcoming weekends? Still at college, so any hook-ups are going to happen in a party atmosphere at a house or bar.

1. Stop thinking what the movies portray as how to pick up women.
2. Understand that not banging on the first night, is not failing.
3. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself and leave once you feel it won't happen that night, familiarize yourself.
4. There are always girls(ugly, or just major whores) at the bar that want to smash that night, but most men want to go for the girl that is to their own personal bar they feel they can get. Girls too hot, scares most men, men want slightly too hot.
5. If you want a quick fvck, you'll have to be better than a typical guy that only wants a quick fvck in a girls mind.
6. The first thing a girl thinks when a guy approaches them, is this guy wants to have sex with me. Girls go out to get attention from guys, you failing gave her what she wanted.
7. You have to differentiate yourself from other guys and get their guard down.
8. Make your approach as little like an approach as possible, approach like it's a coworker or friend.
9. CONFIDENCE. Be self-centered, but not like an ass. Worry about you, don't subconsciously bow to the girl when you walk up. You are equal, not a guy begging to go home with a girl.
10. Treat them as a human, not some prize you wish to catch. They are people with needs too, but they don't want a guy that treats them that way.
11. Avoid traditional or common ways to get a girl (buy a drink, ask to dance, tell her she's beautiful). You approaching means your interested, the rest is understood. Make yourself different, ask her to buy YOU a drink confidently, but with a sarcastic smirk.
12. When you approach, start with something to get her mind away from the fact you just approached her. If you can get her talking with genuine interest, you've opened. Let her talk as much as you can.
13. Don't be afraid to go buy yourself a drink, and leave her be, but you must know she's actually interested. Most guys get a little pull on the line, and suffocate them.
14. Don't bring up taking them home, if they want to go home with you, they'll be clear about it by asking to tag along, or follow you wherever you go.
15. Understand that if you get her number, doesn't mean she'll ever respond. College girls give out their number a dozen times a night. Sober vs drunk girl intentions are different. Get as many as you can, girls will see you doing that, and become a bit intrigued.

You know why girls like a guy with a girlfriend? Because you aren't paying them any attention, you're centered around your personal situation. Act the same way now, that your situation is all that matters to you, and going home with them doesn't really matter to you. You just thought it would be nice to meet them. You become the prey for them, because you aren't acting like most guys and surrendering everything to them.

1. Stop thinking what the movies portray as how to pick up women.
2. Understand that not banging on the first night, is not failing.
3. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself and leave once you feel it won't happen that night, familiarize yourself.
4. There are always girls(ugly, or just major whores) at the bar that want to smash that night, but most men want to go for the girl that is to their own personal bar they feel they can get. Girls too hot, scares most men, men want slightly too hot.
5. If you want a quick fvck, you'll have to be better than a typical guy that only wants a quick fvck in a girls mind.
6. The first thing a girl thinks when a guy approaches them, is this guy wants to have sex with me. Girls go out to get attention from guys, you failing gave her what she wanted.
7. You have to differentiate yourself from other guys and get their guard down.
8. Make your approach as little like an approach as possible, approach like it's a coworker or friend.
9. CONFIDENCE. Be self-centered, but not like an ass. Worry about you, don't subconsciously bow to the girl when you walk up. You are equal, not a guy begging to go home with a girl.
10. Treat them as a human, not some prize you wish to catch. They are people with needs too, but they don't want a guy that treats them that way.
11. Avoid traditional or common ways to get a girl (buy a drink, ask to dance, tell her she's beautiful). You approaching means your interested, the rest is understood. Make yourself different, ask her to buy YOU a drink confidently, but with a sarcastic smirk.
12. When you approach, start with something to get her mind away from the fact you just approached her. If you can get her talking with genuine interest, you've opened. Let her talk as much as you can.
13. Don't be afraid to go buy yourself a drink, and leave her be, but you must know she's actually interested. Most guys get a little pull on the line, and suffocate them.
14. Don't bring up taking them home, if they want to go home with you, they'll be clear about it by asking to tag along, or follow you wherever you go.
15. Understand that if you get her number, doesn't mean she'll ever respond. College girls give out their number a dozen times a night. Sober vs drunk girl intentions are different. Get as many as you can, girls will see you doing that, and become a bit intrigued.

You know why girls like a guy with a girlfriend? Because you aren't paying them any attention, you're centered around your personal situation. Act the same way now, that your situation is all that matters to you, and going home with them doesn't really matter to you. You just thought it would be nice to meet them. You become the prey for them, because you aren't acting like most guys and surrendering everything to them.

This is all excellent.

To further hammer home point #8, the first rule in B2B sales is to NOT come across as a salesman. In fact, sales 101 is "how to sell someone on something", sales 201 is "how to get someone to sell themselves on something". In other words, don't "show her" how awesome you are... subtly give her reasons to determine that for herself. ANYONE TRYING TO CONVINCE A GIRL THEY ARE AWESOME WILL FAIL.

I'm not looking for a GF. Haven't been. Wasted last year thinking there was going to be one when it was completely the opposite. I had one sophomore year who was insecure about herself and ended up ****ing others when we were "together".

I'm not the type of guy to get completely ****-faced and go out for an instant hook-up...even if it sounds like it. 2nd week of school I ended up hooking up with a neighbor, but it was all on her part. Went out together the night before, did nothing. Next night we separated ourselves from the rest of my roommates and hers, next thing you know I go to walk her home from a bar we were just chilling at talking and she's "locked out" and the opportunity presented itself.

Regardless, I'm not here to be a douche, take advantage...yada yada. Just here to have a good time.

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Originally Posted by CollinsE90

1. Stop thinking what the movies portray as how to pick up women.
2. Understand that not banging on the first night, is not failing.
3. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself and leave once you feel it won't happen that night, familiarize yourself.
4. There are always girls(ugly, or just major whores) at the bar that want to smash that night, but most men want to go for the girl that is to their own personal bar they feel they can get. Girls too hot, scares most men, men want slightly too hot.
5. If you want a quick fvck, you'll have to be better than a typical guy that only wants a quick fvck in a girls mind.
6. The first thing a girl thinks when a guy approaches them, is this guy wants to have sex with me. Girls go out to get attention from guys, you failing gave her what she wanted.
7. You have to differentiate yourself from other guys and get their guard down.
8. Make your approach as little like an approach as possible, approach like it's a coworker or friend.
9. CONFIDENCE. Be self-centered, but not like an ass. Worry about you, don't subconsciously bow to the girl when you walk up. You are equal, not a guy begging to go home with a girl.
10. Treat them as a human, not some prize you wish to catch. They are people with needs too, but they don't want a guy that treats them that way.
11. Avoid traditional or common ways to get a girl (buy a drink, ask to dance, tell her she's beautiful). You approaching means your interested, the rest is understood. Make yourself different, ask her to buy YOU a drink confidently, but with a sarcastic smirk.
12. When you approach, start with something to get her mind away from the fact you just approached her. If you can get her talking with genuine interest, you've opened. Let her talk as much as you can.
13. Don't be afraid to go buy yourself a drink, and leave her be, but you must know she's actually interested. Most guys get a little pull on the line, and suffocate them.
14. Don't bring up taking them home, if they want to go home with you, they'll be clear about it by asking to tag along, or follow you wherever you go.
15. Understand that if you get her number, doesn't mean she'll ever respond. College girls give out their number a dozen times a night. Sober vs drunk girl intentions are different. Get as many as you can, girls will see you doing that, and become a bit intrigued.

You know why girls like a guy with a girlfriend? Because you aren't paying them any attention, you're centered around your personal situation. Act the same way now, that your situation is all that matters to you, and going home with them doesn't really matter to you. You just thought it would be nice to meet them. You become the prey for them, because you aren't acting like most guys and surrendering everything to them.

Thanks for the advice. Like I said earlier, I was never expecting a hook-up to happen and it was just hanging out with my roommates at a party. I just I gotta keep that mentality and let it take its course.

To further hammer home point #8, the first rule in B2B sales is to NOT come across as a salesman. In fact, sales 101 is "how to sell someone on something", sales 201 is "how to get someone to sell themselves on something". In other words, don't "show her" how awesome you are... subtly give her reasons to determine that for herself. ANYONE TRYING TO CONVINCE A GIRL THEY ARE AWESOME WILL FAIL.

1. Stop thinking what the movies portray as how to pick up women.
2. Understand that not banging on the first night, is not failing.
3. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself and leave once you feel it won't happen that night, familiarize yourself.
4. There are always girls(ugly, or just major whores) at the bar that want to smash that night, but most men want to go for the girl that is to their own personal bar they feel they can get. Girls too hot, scares most men, men want slightly too hot.
5. If you want a quick fvck, you'll have to be better than a typical guy that only wants a quick fvck in a girls mind.
6. The first thing a girl thinks when a guy approaches them, is this guy wants to have sex with me. Girls go out to get attention from guys, you failing gave her what she wanted.
7. You have to differentiate yourself from other guys and get their guard down.
8. Make your approach as little like an approach as possible, approach like it's a coworker or friend.
9. CONFIDENCE. Be self-centered, but not like an ass. Worry about you, don't subconsciously bow to the girl when you walk up. You are equal, not a guy begging to go home with a girl.
10. Treat them as a human, not some prize you wish to catch. They are people with needs too, but they don't want a guy that treats them that way.
11. Avoid traditional or common ways to get a girl (buy a drink, ask to dance, tell her she's beautiful). You approaching means your interested, the rest is understood. Make yourself different, ask her to buy YOU a drink confidently, but with a sarcastic smirk.
12. When you approach, start with something to get her mind away from the fact you just approached her. If you can get her talking with genuine interest, you've opened. Let her talk as much as you can.
13. Don't be afraid to go buy yourself a drink, and leave her be, but you must know she's actually interested. Most guys get a little pull on the line, and suffocate them.
14. Don't bring up taking them home, if they want to go home with you, they'll be clear about it by asking to tag along, or follow you wherever you go.
15. Understand that if you get her number, doesn't mean she'll ever respond. College girls give out their number a dozen times a night. Sober vs drunk girl intentions are different. Get as many as you can, girls will see you doing that, and become a bit intrigued.

You know why girls like a guy with a girlfriend? Because you aren't paying them any attention, you're centered around your personal situation. Act the same way now, that your situation is all that matters to you, and going home with them doesn't really matter to you. You just thought it would be nice to meet them. You become the prey for them, because you aren't acting like most guys and surrendering everything to them.

awesome post btw. I wish I knew these things in my early 20's. Actually no I don't. I'd have aids and kids.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

I was away this weekend because a friend rented a house upstate. About 17 people and 1 single girl. Closed by saying "lets go outside and look at shooting stars". 4 stars later I was getting my dick sucked in a canoe.

CollinsE90 was spot on as usual with his comments. I will admit, through him and other members, my game has significantly improved from following the love line threads.

Lately for me what has worked is;

-Make her laugh
-Eye Contact (important)
-Smile a lot
-Poke fun at yourself a bit when given the chance. (Shows her your not full of yourself)
-Confidence
-Show her pics of my car (jkjk, thats the deal closer later)