With regards to the Ranger piece, why would we not extend the option on his contract? If he starts well we could use him and start well next season even if we end of selling him, he's the best striker in League 1 by a mile and probably in the Championship too. What is the alternative - another free transfer at the end of the season? think business as well as the game here folks.

Don't forget they players said they wanted him back, is it just Cooperman who doesn't seem to value him?

With regards to the Ranger piece, why would we not extend the option on his contract? If he starts well we could use him and start well next season even if we end of selling him, he's the best striker in League 1 by a mile and probably in the Championship too. What is the alternative - another free transfer at the end of the season? think business as well as the game here folks.
Don't forget they players said they wanted him back, is it just Cooperman who doesn't seem to value him?Scouse Red

MK Dons have a 15-year-old on the bench today. Danny Collinge hasn't even sat his GCSEs yet. Bonkers
Derek Forster made his debut in goal for Sunderland [ First Division at the time [ aged 15 yrs 185 days ! Now that was bonkers !

MK Dons have a 15-year-old on the bench today. Danny Collinge hasn't even sat his GCSEs yet. Bonkers
Derek Forster made his debut in goal for Sunderland [ First Division at the time [ aged 15 yrs 185 days ! Now that was bonkers !umpcah

SAM HAS SAID....
Not too much to report from that first half but Swindon have done enough to have the lead at the break thanks to Michael Smith's header.

WHO CARES WERE WINNING and that is what its all about

SAM HAS SAID....
Not too much to report from that first half but Swindon have done enough to have the lead at the break thanks to Michael Smith's header.
WHO CARES WERE WINNING and that is what its all aboutdazzastfc

Just how **** ing long is it going to take for the penny to drop in cooper's brain that we rarely if ever win matches with 11 men behind the ball.

Three points down the drain.

Cooper's kamikaze football strikes again after a good first half.
Just how **** ing long is it going to take for the penny to drop in cooper's brain that we rarely if ever win matches with 11 men behind the ball.
Three points down the drain.Hampshire_ReD

Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H & Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.

Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol!

Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H & Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.
Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol!The Jockster

sounds like the last few games all over again. every game taking the lead then sitting back and coneding a goal then the opposition go for it and we have to hold out for a point.
When are we going to learn to keep attacking and not sit on a 1 goal lead.
We have now lost 2-1 because we are not killing teams off
Play ofs gone
Cooper wake up and stop these stupid decisions and Stop Stop Stop trying to defend on a 1-0 lead and kill the other team off and Attack Attack Attack.
Enough is enough Cooper forget the excuses of yound team have to learn and give us the truth

sounds like the last few games all over again. every game taking the lead then sitting back and coneding a goal then the opposition go for it and we have to hold out for a point.
When are we going to learn to keep attacking and not sit on a 1 goal lead.
We have now lost 2-1 because we are not killing teams off
Play ofs gone
Cooper wake up and stop these stupid decisions and Stop Stop Stop trying to defend on a 1-0 lead and kill the other team off and Attack Attack Attack.
Enough is enough Cooper forget the excuses of yound team have to learn and give us the truthmowey33

MK Dons steal victory at the death and Swindon Town, whose second-half performance was truly limp, see their play-off hopes drift off into the Wiltshire sunset.

Let's hope Cooper drifts off into the sunset.

MK Dons steal victory at the death and Swindon Town, whose second-half performance was truly limp, see their play-off hopes drift off into the Wiltshire sunset.
Let's hope Cooper drifts off into the sunset.sagadude

I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).

I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.

Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....

I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.

Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.

This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!

Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(

I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(louiscassius

sagadude wrote:
MK Dons steal victory at the death and Swindon Town, whose second-half performance was truly limp, see their play-off hopes drift off into the Wiltshire sunset.

Let's hope Cooper drifts off into the sunset.

Supported him all year but have to say that was poor second half. Half the ground could see they were coming back into it, needed a change but he just can't seem to see it. Smith was poor and needed to comeoff but he waited until 5 mins to go. Murphy clear on goal screws his shot badly, not for the first time. Wolves could be embarrassing.

Sitting back when 1-0 just isn't good enough

[quote][p][bold]sagadude[/bold] wrote:
MK Dons steal victory at the death and Swindon Town, whose second-half performance was truly limp, see their play-off hopes drift off into the Wiltshire sunset.
Let's hope Cooper drifts off into the sunset.[/p][/quote]Supported him all year but have to say that was poor second half. Half the ground could see they were coming back into it, needed a change but he just can't seem to see it. Smith was poor and needed to comeoff but he waited until 5 mins to go. Murphy clear on goal screws his shot badly, not for the first time. Wolves could be embarrassing.
Sitting back when 1-0 just isn't good enoughScouse Red

We are a young side and a work in progress...Which is what we'll all be hearing once again next season, then the season after that!!!.....Cooper just do the decent thing and get the **** out of STFC and take your boring clueless negative one striker up front tactics with you!!!!

We are a young side and a work in progress...Which is what we'll all be hearing once again next season, then the season after that!!!.....Cooper just do the decent thing and get the **** out of STFC and take your boring clueless negative one striker up front tactics with you!!!!The Nomis

Disappointing second half to say the least! Midfield and full backs chased shadows and were bullied off the ball in the last 20 mins. Players looked unfit and lost their shape when it became hard going. I suspect the wind had an impact as mk struggled first half.

Still not sure what Harley offers the team? He simply shadows players and slows the play down on the ball. Was impressed with Troy and luongo today.

Disappointing second half to say the least! Midfield and full backs chased shadows and were bullied off the ball in the last 20 mins. Players looked unfit and lost their shape when it became hard going. I suspect the wind had an impact as mk struggled first half.
Still not sure what Harley offers the team? He simply shadows players and slows the play down on the ball. Was impressed with Troy and luongo today.Showboat_fc

I've supported the manager all season given him the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions but I'm seriously thinking we need a new boss.
He doesn't seem to be able to change things mid game the dug outs quiet
The players don't seem motivated to be honest it's dire
We don't look like scoring the formations not working ....Mr Cooper to score goals we need people in the box and players to cross the ball it's not rocket science. You've had enough time to sort this out .

I've supported the manager all season given him the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions but I'm seriously thinking we need a new boss.
He doesn't seem to be able to change things mid game the dug outs quiet
The players don't seem motivated to be honest it's dire
We don't look like scoring the formations not working ....Mr Cooper to score goals we need people in the box and players to cross the ball it's not rocket science. You've had enough time to sort this out .Always red

I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).

I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.

Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....

I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.

Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.

This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!

Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(

I think the 7th, 8th, & 9th letters if your log n name says it all!

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-([/p][/quote]I think the 7th, 8th, & 9th letters if your log n name says it all!The Jockster

I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).

I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.

Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....

I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.

Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.

This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!

Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(

I think the 7th, 8th, &amp; 9th letters if your log n name says it all!

**** off you cont......your a friggen wancer in the first order....hope you end up dyion a really horrible death wancer...

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-([/p][/quote]I think the 7th, 8th, & 9th letters if your log n name says it all![/p][/quote]**** off you cont......your a friggen wancer in the first order....hope you end up dyion a really horrible death wancer...louiscassius

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-([/p][/quote]I think the 7th, 8th, & 9th letters if your log n name says it all![/p][/quote]People like you deserve to die horribly....long painful deaths......Ha h ha, probably smoke too ha ha ....die you freak...louiscassius

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.stfcdod

I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...

I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...louiscassius

What a strange game absolutely coasting it first half against a quite shocking MK side but just have one goal to show for it and that is our downfall at present we do not have the ability to kill games off and just how MK got the 3 points is baffling but they actually were growing in confidence near the end and sensed the game was there for the taking. We are basically Nile Ranger away from winning a few games. Good first half but should do more to shoot on target and the worry is this tippy tappy does nothing for our weak team to win games and other teams know it and that's god knows how many points we have tossed away recently. Injuries have ravaged us yes but why loan strikers out when we are struggling to score. Storey needs to come back and send Murphy back as he just is not good enough. Looks like Cooper and the players have resigned themselves to a mediocre finish to the campaign but the worry is we are by no means safe just yet and still need points and do not see any over the next two games. Just can't believe we lost that game today against one of the worst sides I have seen down here.

What a strange game absolutely coasting it first half against a quite shocking MK side but just have one goal to show for it and that is our downfall at present we do not have the ability to kill games off and just how MK got the 3 points is baffling but they actually were growing in confidence near the end and sensed the game was there for the taking. We are basically Nile Ranger away from winning a few games. Good first half but should do more to shoot on target and the worry is this tippy tappy does nothing for our weak team to win games and other teams know it and that's god knows how many points we have tossed away recently. Injuries have ravaged us yes but why loan strikers out when we are struggling to score. Storey needs to come back and send Murphy back as he just is not good enough. Looks like Cooper and the players have resigned themselves to a mediocre finish to the campaign but the worry is we are by no means safe just yet and still need points and do not see any over the next two games. Just can't believe we lost that game today against one of the worst sides I have seen down here.Di kanny oh

Begining to get a bit fed up with it now, I don't like the style of footbal, English football wether right or wrong it about getting the ball forward at pace or long ball and hard work, we are not doing that we overplay to much. I, like the next person like to see skilful players, but it's not for me this style, no season ticket next year, but will still obviously go, I've defended Coops a lot but I do wonder if he's the right man! But we have a club, which was in doubt last year and for that I'm thankfull, and in40 years of watching the Town I've seen it all, but not sure about the present system

Begining to get a bit fed up with it now, I don't like the style of footbal, English football wether right or wrong it about getting the ball forward at pace or long ball and hard work, we are not doing that we overplay to much. I, like the next person like to see skilful players, but it's not for me this style, no season ticket next year, but will still obviously go, I've defended Coops a lot but I do wonder if he's the right man! But we have a club, which was in doubt last year and for that I'm thankfull, and in40 years of watching the Town I've seen it all, but not sure about the present systemSwindon Crier

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

Remember cooper we are a young side and a work in progress

[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.[/p][/quote]Remember cooper we are a young side and a work in progresssmirg kcab

Couldn't make the game today had to work,so I can't comment on the performance, but I've been saying we still need points to be safe! we have a tough run in and the way things are going we're struggling to win any game! Coops is under big pressure now,if I was Power I'd be looking around at the managers cause things are getting worse not better, how many more points do we need to survive? cause I can't see getting very many! could be very close,with no Ranger looks like we can only score one goal a game,not looking forward to Wolves now! we could get thrashed then it's Sh1ty away,Squeaky bum time chaps!!!!!!!!!!

Couldn't make the game today had to work,so I can't comment on the performance, but I've been saying we still need points to be safe! we have a tough run in and the way things are going we're struggling to win any game! Coops is under big pressure now,if I was Power I'd be looking around at the managers cause things are getting worse not better, how many more points do we need to survive? cause I can't see getting very many! could be very close,with no Ranger looks like we can only score one goal a game,not looking forward to Wolves now! we could get thrashed then it's Sh1ty away,Squeaky bum time chaps!!!!!!!!!!the don69

Rubbish today. Two very poor sides on view. Says a lot for the standard of the division when the two teams are so high in the table. I'm not sure where this idea of "only one team in it" comes from. There was no team in it for much of the game. MK had looked fairly comfortable until we got our fluke goal. The roles were then reversed and we looked OK for the rest of the first half. Déjà vu second half - simply brushed aside by a team that was stronger but didn't have much to offer.

Cooper can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. I'm not keen on the formation but the players aren't good enough so I don't see that changing the manager without changing the players is going to make any difference.

Rubbish today. Two very poor sides on view. Says a lot for the standard of the division when the two teams are so high in the table. I'm not sure where this idea of "only one team in it" comes from. There was no team in it for much of the game. MK had looked fairly comfortable until we got our fluke goal. The roles were then reversed and we looked OK for the rest of the first half. Déjà vu second half - simply brushed aside by a team that was stronger but didn't have much to offer.
Cooper can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. I'm not keen on the formation but the players aren't good enough so I don't see that changing the manager without changing the players is going to make any difference.Oi Den!

Have to add to the talk about today's game that the County Ground was like a morgue today and never seen it so quiet with very little atmosphere and no wonder with so few shots on goal and as an attacking threat yet again we are quite shocking and there is so little excitement. Do Cooper and Power realize that goals win games and if we are more happy making 200 passes all over the pitch then we will go no where.Most fans like attacking high tempo football and the stuff that gets bums off seats. Most bums lately are firmly planted on their seats and its like watching paint dry. Come on LP and MC we want exciting football and you may have to go further that just 10% off to get my season ticket money. Last dozen games have been dire and basically the results are relegation form.

Have to add to the talk about today's game that the County Ground was like a morgue today and never seen it so quiet with very little atmosphere and no wonder with so few shots on goal and as an attacking threat yet again we are quite shocking and there is so little excitement. Do Cooper and Power realize that goals win games and if we are more happy making 200 passes all over the pitch then we will go no where.Most fans like attacking high tempo football and the stuff that gets bums off seats. Most bums lately are firmly planted on their seats and its like watching paint dry. Come on LP and MC we want exciting football and you may have to go further that just 10% off to get my season ticket money. Last dozen games have been dire and basically the results are relegation form.Di kanny oh

The Jockster wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H &amp; Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.

Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol!

Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very ugly

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H & Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.
Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol![/p][/quote]Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very uglysmirg kcab

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I'll book a tour of the ground Tuesday and see if his match shirt is out. ;O)

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I'll book a tour of the ground Tuesday and see if his match shirt is out. ;O)Chish and Fips

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.Bassett Hound

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.

I heard it's either a speeding issue or from when he pranged his car on Christmas Day

[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.[/p][/quote]I heard it's either a speeding issue or from when he pranged his car on Christmas DayScouse Red

Always red wrote:
I've supported the manager all season given him the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions but I'm seriously thinking we need a new boss.
He doesn't seem to be able to change things mid game the dug outs quiet
The players don't seem motivated to be honest it's dire
We don't look like scoring the formations not working ....Mr Cooper to score goals we need people in the box and players to cross the ball it's not rocket science. You've had enough time to sort this out .

pretty much how i felt. Can't see Power doing anything with only a handful of games to go though

[quote][p][bold]Always red[/bold] wrote:
I've supported the manager all season given him the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions but I'm seriously thinking we need a new boss.
He doesn't seem to be able to change things mid game the dug outs quiet
The players don't seem motivated to be honest it's dire
We don't look like scoring the formations not working ....Mr Cooper to score goals we need people in the box and players to cross the ball it's not rocket science. You've had enough time to sort this out .[/p][/quote]pretty much how i felt. Can't see Power doing anything with only a handful of games to go thoughScouse Red

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.

I heard it's either a speeding issue or from when he pranged his car on Christmas Day

I think you`ll fid it`s a drink-driving case.

[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I've heard he is facing another charge and did not turn up for the court case in early Feb.[/p][/quote]I heard it's either a speeding issue or from when he pranged his car on Christmas Day[/p][/quote]I think you`ll fid it`s a drink-driving case.umpcah

The Jockster wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H &amp; Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.

Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol!

Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very ugly

Next week will turn very ugly YOU HOPE !

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H & Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.
Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol![/p][/quote]Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very ugly[/p][/quote]Next week will turn very ugly YOU HOPE !umpcah

Power should talk to Hoddle. If not we are as Louis Cassius said a club going nowhere, no new stadium.

Non ambitious club, non ambitious council.

I warned you all a few weeks ago. Cooper has not got a clue.
Power should talk to Hoddle. If not we are as Louis Cassius said a club going nowhere, no new stadium.
Non ambitious club, non ambitious council.sagadude

I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).

I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.

Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....

I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.

Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.

This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!

Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(

I think the 7th, 8th, &amp; 9th letters if your log n name says it all!

**** off you cont......your a friggen wancer in the first order....hope you end up dyion a really horrible death wancer...

Thought you said you weren't posting again ever? Can't be too soon when you finally do - what a Casablanca !

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-([/p][/quote]I think the 7th, 8th, & 9th letters if your log n name says it all![/p][/quote]**** off you cont......your a friggen wancer in the first order....hope you end up dyion a really horrible death wancer...[/p][/quote]Thought you said you weren't posting again ever? Can't be too soon when you finally do - what a Casablanca !The Jockster

Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.jayden

louiscassius wrote:
I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...

Well if you didn't post such garbage to start with you wouldn't get slated would you ? Can we assume that the above was now your last post or that your inevitable reply to this one will be? Just so that I know if you were really serious about not posting again like!

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...[/p][/quote]Well if you didn't post such garbage to start with you wouldn't get slated would you ? Can we assume that the above was now your last post or that your inevitable reply to this one will be? Just so that I know if you were really serious about not posting again like!The Jockster

jayden wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Now that'd save me £20 lol!

[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.[/p][/quote]Now that'd save me £20 lol!The Jockster

I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.

I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.MoonrakerMatelot

I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).

I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.

Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....

I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.

Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.

This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!

Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-(

Hi Louis stick with it mate I know how you feel and so do a few thousand more ST fans . As I have said on here I am now taking my coaching badges and getting more pleasure out of coaching than going to watch ST at the moment, sill if any of the boys don't listen I can punish them by making the watch a game at the CG LOL . Take a bit of time away from the club there is more to life than ST we will be life supporters but we must enjoy our short life well we can.

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I'm now going to burn my bridges.
I have followed Swindon town from since I was probably old enough to realise that there was other local teams worth following (70's).
I will not play the Predictions League nor post comments on this awful site again. We are (as hateful as it sounds) a two bit, nothing club going nowhere.
Used by people who have a bit of cash to further their own ends.....
I am 44 this Aug and have been in the forces 20 odd years and I've never felt so hurt and used....when the potential in a great town is there to be unlocked.
Good luck to the Team, and to all you decent posters....I hope your RL (Real Lives) become easier and god bless ya all.
This Club will never ever move forward until someone/somehow we find a new Stadium and new platform to project us forward....fact!!
Good luck everyone, kind regards, Last time ever...Louis :-([/p][/quote]Hi Louis stick with it mate I know how you feel and so do a few thousand more ST fans . As I have said on here I am now taking my coaching badges and getting more pleasure out of coaching than going to watch ST at the moment, sill if any of the boys don't listen I can punish them by making the watch a game at the CG LOL . Take a bit of time away from the club there is more to life than ST we will be life supporters but we must enjoy our short life well we can.jayden

jayden wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Now that'd save me £20 lol!

Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.[/p][/quote]Now that'd save me £20 lol![/p][/quote]Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.jayden

Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)

Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.

Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.

The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.

Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.

Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.

Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.

Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....

Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.

And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.

Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)
Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.
Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.
The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.
Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.
Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.
Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.
Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....
Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.
And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.Wilesy

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I have heard the same, but is going ti take more than him to turn this round.
I have to say we do not look fit.
I agree with MOM.
Belford i thought was excellent,apart from one misdirected kick his ball distribution was superb,nearly every kick found a Swindon player.
The only two positives from today.
Ref overall vet good today..
Still getting my season ticket Thursday and apparently the sales are going well.
I am positive as anyone but you really can not see anything than a comprehensive Wolves win.

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I have heard the same, but is going ti take more than him to turn this round.
I have to say we do not look fit.
I agree with MOM.
Belford i thought was excellent,apart from one misdirected kick his ball distribution was superb,nearly every kick found a Swindon player.
The only two positives from today.
Ref overall vet good today..
Still getting my season ticket Thursday and apparently the sales are going well.
I am positive as anyone but you really can not see anything than a comprehensive Wolves win.swwindon61uk

So easy for MK dons who are a poor side and so are we we made it so easy for them the ball was played into smith all the time who can't win a ball or hold it up didn't get behind their back four apart from one or two times in the second half worryingly the next five games on this performance can't see us winning any points and a massive slide down the table is on the cards.
If I was nguessan and saw smith playing in front of me I'd be well hacked off.
Smith is a L2 player and no way good enough for this league.
Tuesday night you can guarantee cooper will go 4-5-1.
Worrying times ahead I feel with all the top sides to play.

So easy for MK dons who are a poor side and so are we we made it so easy for them the ball was played into smith all the time who can't win a ball or hold it up didn't get behind their back four apart from one or two times in the second half worryingly the next five games on this performance can't see us winning any points and a massive slide down the table is on the cards.
If I was nguessan and saw smith playing in front of me I'd be well hacked off.
Smith is a L2 player and no way good enough for this league.
Tuesday night you can guarantee cooper will go 4-5-1.
Worrying times ahead I feel with all the top sides to play.LeGod

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.

It was made clear at the start of the season that Cooper has no choice but to play a passing game. I think he's sussed out that these players would get overrun if they tried to play attacking football. If he was allowed to mix it up a bit I think he would be more inclined to play a positive game - but I still believe the lack of steel would be a big problem. It's the 2010/11 syndrome all over again (if not quite as serious). Changing the manager then was equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It would be just the same now. Power's shortsighted recruitment policy is to blame, not Cooper's management.

[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.[/p][/quote]It was made clear at the start of the season that Cooper has no choice but to play a passing game. I think he's sussed out that these players would get overrun if they tried to play attacking football. If he was allowed to mix it up a bit I think he would be more inclined to play a positive game - but I still believe the lack of steel would be a big problem. It's the 2010/11 syndrome all over again (if not quite as serious). Changing the manager then was equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It would be just the same now. Power's shortsighted recruitment policy is to blame, not Cooper's management.Oi Den!

We are a tired team and lacking in confidence. Until we have more fit players expect the same type of results.
Cooper is doing little to inspire me, but to be fair he has very little to work with on the bench. Pity Benson is not on the bench IMO.

We are a tired team and lacking in confidence. Until we have more fit players expect the same type of results.
Cooper is doing little to inspire me, but to be fair he has very little to work with on the bench. Pity Benson is not on the bench IMO.Rgbargee

jayden wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Now that'd save me £20 lol!

Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.

Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.

[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.[/p][/quote]Now that'd save me £20 lol![/p][/quote]Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.[/p][/quote]Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.The Jockster

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.

I have heard the same, but is going ti take more than him to turn this round.
I have to say we do not look fit.
I agree with MOM.
Belford i thought was excellent,apart from one misdirected kick his ball distribution was superb,nearly every kick found a Swindon player.
The only two positives from today.
Ref overall vet good today..
Still getting my season ticket Thursday and apparently the sales are going well.
I am positive as anyone but you really can not see anything than a comprehensive Wolves win.

Quite right 61. Archibald-Henville shaded it over Belford. Smith tried hard but was ineffective; the rest are hardly worth a mention.

[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way, I heard today (could be total tosh) that Ranger is being considered for selection on Tuesday.[/p][/quote]I have heard the same, but is going ti take more than him to turn this round.
I have to say we do not look fit.
I agree with MOM.
Belford i thought was excellent,apart from one misdirected kick his ball distribution was superb,nearly every kick found a Swindon player.
The only two positives from today.
Ref overall vet good today..
Still getting my season ticket Thursday and apparently the sales are going well.
I am positive as anyone but you really can not see anything than a comprehensive Wolves win.[/p][/quote]Quite right 61. Archibald-Henville shaded it over Belford. Smith tried hard but was ineffective; the rest are hardly worth a mention.Oi Den!

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.

It was made clear at the start of the season that Cooper has no choice but to play a passing game. I think he's sussed out that these players would get overrun if they tried to play attacking football. If he was allowed to mix it up a bit I think he would be more inclined to play a positive game - but I still believe the lack of steel would be a big problem. It's the 2010/11 syndrome all over again (if not quite as serious). Changing the manager then was equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It would be just the same now. Power's shortsighted recruitment policy is to blame, not Cooper's management.

Love the Titanic analogy...something to smile about at last. Cheers Oi Den!

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.[/p][/quote]It was made clear at the start of the season that Cooper has no choice but to play a passing game. I think he's sussed out that these players would get overrun if they tried to play attacking football. If he was allowed to mix it up a bit I think he would be more inclined to play a positive game - but I still believe the lack of steel would be a big problem. It's the 2010/11 syndrome all over again (if not quite as serious). Changing the manager then was equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It would be just the same now. Power's shortsighted recruitment policy is to blame, not Cooper's management.[/p][/quote]Love the Titanic analogy...something to smile about at last. Cheers Oi Den!MoonrakerMatelot

jayden wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Now that'd save me £20 lol!

Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.

Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.

Nail hit on head, chaps. Power needs to realise that most Town fans value League points above the development of players who probably won't be with us for long anyway. You two didn't go today. I know a group of 4 who have given up the ghost because the whole thing has become a bore. There must be many more. The writing is on the wall and Power needs to read it.

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.[/p][/quote]Now that'd save me £20 lol![/p][/quote]Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.[/p][/quote]Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.[/p][/quote]Nail hit on head, chaps. Power needs to realise that most Town fans value League points above the development of players who probably won't be with us for long anyway. You two didn't go today. I know a group of 4 who have given up the ghost because the whole thing has become a bore. There must be many more. The writing is on the wall and Power needs to read it.Oi Den!

jayden wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.

Now that'd save me £20 lol!

Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.

Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.

Nail hit on head, chaps. Power needs to realise that most Town fans value League points above the development of players who probably won't be with us for long anyway. You two didn't go today. I know a group of 4 who have given up the ghost because the whole thing has become a bore. There must be many more. The writing is on the wall and Power needs to read it.

The group who have lost the faith is more i can assure you of that,supporters have just had enough of being treated as bloody idiots! £27 to watch a team of youth and cast offs and managed by lee power and mark cooper for certain games next season is a farce.

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Not at the game today as I was coaching my grandsons under 7 team all though we did get back in time I just could not face it also not going on Tues as I would rather watch him training with the Arsenal develop centre than us .I asked 6 people if they wanted to borrow my st ticket and they all said no. I can't even be arsed to listen to the radio at the moment either or moan on here about it , will be Swindon till I die but can't face going at the moment.[/p][/quote]Now that'd save me £20 lol![/p][/quote]Jock how are you old boy? You can use my ticket anytime if you can get to Witney to pick it up.[/p][/quote]Cheers my boy but I'd spend that on petrol lol! Good luck with the coaching badges and yes there is more to life than watching STFC for sure although for some it is undoubtedly the be all and end all, and good luck to them for that, each to their own.
For me I'm very much at the same stage I was in the dark Wilson days - I realise we're not Real Madrid but I feel we are back to the pre Pdc era - mundane performances, lack of finances determining what players we are able to sign, a novice manager trying his best with some very average players some of who aren't committed to the cause. It will for example be interesting to see how many of them really understand the importance to the fans of beating City on Saturday? For me it's forget Oxford this is the real local derby. Another factor is that I feel we're not being entertained - we haven't been for weeks with our now all too predictable and frankly boring geometrical triangle formations and complete lack of oomph or ideas in the final third and box often no one on the end of crosses when we do get down the flanks and behind opposing defences so for me vfm is questionable at the moment and I'm afraid I can't justify the expense solely on the grounds of blind loyalty, which of course others might feel they are able to do.[/p][/quote]Nail hit on head, chaps. Power needs to realise that most Town fans value League points above the development of players who probably won't be with us for long anyway. You two didn't go today. I know a group of 4 who have given up the ghost because the whole thing has become a bore. There must be many more. The writing is on the wall and Power needs to read it.[/p][/quote]The group who have lost the faith is more i can assure you of that,supporters have just had enough of being treated as bloody idiots! £27 to watch a team of youth and cast offs and managed by lee power and mark cooper for certain games next season is a farce.bradley red 1

The Jockster wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H &amp; Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.

Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol!

Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very ugly

Grim thing is Cooper is the cheap and cheerful option he obeys orders and does what his master requires, I don't blame him for that as he has got to be a manager of a football league club when perhaps he'd struggle to get a similar job elsewhere.

I think on the whole the majority of STFC fans have been incredibly tolerant and generous of Cooper's/Power's style of play but having seen that we now appear to be in rut with no way of getting out of it, feelings are now running high and fans are venting their spleen in frustration. As Den and others have said Power needs to recognise that the natives are restless.
IMO if he expects long standing season ticket holders and indeed potential newbies to part with their hard earned dosh he needs to come clean on his vision for next season and beyond. We all know he wants to make the club sustainable and no one quibbles with that, but football fans all have an expectation of " getting to the top" wherever that plateau may be. In our case I think championship consolidation is a reasonable aim and Power needs to lay his cards on the table so that the faithful can decide whether to invest in the dream or not, rather than cough up for the current unknown and be disappointed, with the caveat of course we could still end up that way even if Power did offer the Promised Land, but at least there'd be a dream as opposed to aghast is currently turning into a bit of a nightmare scenario.

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Giving it a miss today - in favour of Wolves on Tuesday -same old story by the sound of it. Took the lead against Crawley Crewe and MK and simply can't hold on to it.
Shaun H & Chalky particularly scathing about us taking our foot off the gas and have cited at least 6 occasions where we have not pulled back crosses to a red shirt or there is no one in the box. As I listen, that trend is continuing and MK sound the more likely winners.
Let's hope we can get the winner but its not looking very good.
Oh, but Rose and her band of tinters will be on here later saying we can still make the play offs lol![/p][/quote]Yet again jock beat by an awfull side, cooper no clue wilma looks a world beater compared to smith.( don't let header on the line distract you)
A dire shambles with half booing at the end and half swindle fans clapping.
Unsure how this diabolical shambles goes from here.anyone who thinks about renewing s/t next year must need help in a lunatic asylum.
Power must act before everyone turns against cooper.
Hope I get to meet him again face to face on behalf of all swindon fans.
Next week will turn very ugly[/p][/quote]Grim thing is Cooper is the cheap and cheerful option he obeys orders and does what his master requires, I don't blame him for that as he has got to be a manager of a football league club when perhaps he'd struggle to get a similar job elsewhere.
I think on the whole the majority of STFC fans have been incredibly tolerant and generous of Cooper's/Power's style of play but having seen that we now appear to be in rut with no way of getting out of it, feelings are now running high and fans are venting their spleen in frustration. As Den and others have said Power needs to recognise that the natives are restless.
IMO if he expects long standing season ticket holders and indeed potential newbies to part with their hard earned dosh he needs to come clean on his vision for next season and beyond. We all know he wants to make the club sustainable and no one quibbles with that, but football fans all have an expectation of " getting to the top" wherever that plateau may be. In our case I think championship consolidation is a reasonable aim and Power needs to lay his cards on the table so that the faithful can decide whether to invest in the dream or not, rather than cough up for the current unknown and be disappointed, with the caveat of course we could still end up that way even if Power did offer the Promised Land, but at least there'd be a dream as opposed to aghast is currently turning into a bit of a nightmare scenario.The Jockster

Iv tried to be positive about swindon all season.now I have seen enough.
Mark cooper ain't a manager he might just get away with calling himself a couch. The man has favourites. Hes gutless. Not once have I heard him say a bad word about Nathan tompson. He's s..t. he's been s..t all season. Grant hall he's s..t he's been s..t all season. Them two alone have cost us 6-10 points.they are terrible defenders. players don't respect cooper you can see it as clear as day.he has to go at the end of the season for sure. The ego maniac ruined this club and I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Iv tried to be positive about swindon all season.now I have seen enough.
Mark cooper ain't a manager he might just get away with calling himself a couch. The man has favourites. Hes gutless. Not once have I heard him say a bad word about Nathan tompson. He's s..t. he's been s..t all season. Grant hall he's s..t he's been s..t all season. Them two alone have cost us 6-10 points.they are terrible defenders. players don't respect cooper you can see it as clear as day.he has to go at the end of the season for sure. The ego maniac ruined this club and I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.glenda hoddle

10% off season tickets mr power will not persuade people to be fooled again,audit what audit??? come out and tell the truth about the law suits rumoured to be about the club asap,please paint the real picture of the clubs finances.

10% off season tickets mr power will not persuade people to be fooled again,audit what audit??? come out and tell the truth about the law suits rumoured to be about the club asap,please paint the real picture of the clubs finances.bradley red 1

MoonrakerMatelot wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.

Moonraker you have summed it up perfectly, Cooper as a manager is useless, clueless and has to go. For those that were not there to witness how 1/2 the time we could not pass to our own red shirts, we could not tackle, we could hardly put a shot on target to trouble their goalie, we could not once again defend a set piece which led to conceding their first goal. And still he plays one up front, who is basically a div 2 level player and then decides to make a like for like change on 85 minutes. Cooper does not know how to win games, he's more interested not to lose and he can't even do that now we've lost the momentum at home.

I never wanted him as our manager in the first place but like many others until now I have not been vocal in advocating his exit because i believed he deserved the chance to show his credentials. But now the tide has turned, he has proved he is totally clueless and the longer he stays the further we will risk the drop. It was clear today he has now lost the support of the fans that attend matches and the sooner he goes the better for STFC

[quote][p][bold]MoonrakerMatelot[/bold] wrote:
I've backed Cooper all season...until now! I find his whole approach to management rather arrogant and extremely unprofessional. The formula of football he has chosen to play has, by proof of results, failed. A good manager does not stick pig headedly to his principles when they're not working, he recognises the need to change and does so accordinglytact. Cooper has exposed himself as an incompetent and immature manager. Play offs? Forget it! On the flip-side we won't be relegated, but (IMO) we will end up in the bottom 3rd of the table. I'll stick by my prediction at the start of this season, that anything but relegation will be considered to be a success. My frustration is with Cooper's tactics; week after week we are subjected to watching our team sit back on a lead to end up only coming away with a point at best. I'm afraid I've gone beyond caring anymore and can only hope and look forward to greater optimism at the start of next season...preferably without MC.[/p][/quote]Moonraker you have summed it up perfectly, Cooper as a manager is useless, clueless and has to go. For those that were not there to witness how 1/2 the time we could not pass to our own red shirts, we could not tackle, we could hardly put a shot on target to trouble their goalie, we could not once again defend a set piece which led to conceding their first goal. And still he plays one up front, who is basically a div 2 level player and then decides to make a like for like change on 85 minutes. Cooper does not know how to win games, he's more interested not to lose and he can't even do that now we've lost the momentum at home.
I never wanted him as our manager in the first place but like many others until now I have not been vocal in advocating his exit because i believed he deserved the chance to show his credentials. But now the tide has turned, he has proved he is totally clueless and the longer he stays the further we will risk the drop. It was clear today he has now lost the support of the fans that attend matches and the sooner he goes the better for STFCold town robin

maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.bearwoodred

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post bearwood

[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post bearwoodBassett Hound

From here on all we can hope for are slip ups by other teams to let us and scrabble a point. At home we came second to a very poor team and once more, yet again, couldn't close the game out. This season now has solid echo's with its results as the last Wilson season. No suitable finishing power or precision today, I'm not going to single anyone person out.It was lame and second rate against a poor side. If we are not good enough to close on teams like MK then we deserve what comes our way. I think disillusionment at the way things have happened over the years just makes things just that bit harder to accept, but then again,this is STFC.

From here on all we can hope for are slip ups by other teams to let us and scrabble a point. At home we came second to a very poor team and once more, yet again, couldn't close the game out. This season now has solid echo's with its results as the last Wilson season. No suitable finishing power or precision today, I'm not going to single anyone person out.It was lame and second rate against a poor side. If we are not good enough to close on teams like MK then we deserve what comes our way. I think disillusionment at the way things have happened over the years just makes things just that bit harder to accept, but then again,this is STFC.the wizard

Wilesy wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)

Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.

Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.

The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.

Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.

Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.

Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.

Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....

Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.

And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.

Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.

Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.

This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be "King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.

I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.

Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....

Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!!

[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)
Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.
Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.
The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.
Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.
Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.
Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.
Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....
Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.
And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.[/p][/quote]Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.
Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.
This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be "King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.
I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.
Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....
Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!!louiscassius

Wilesy wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)

Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.

Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.

The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.

Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.

Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.

Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.

Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....

Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.

And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.

Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.

Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.

This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be &quot;King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.

I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.

Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....

Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!!

Louis old buddy, we are all suffering it , this malais. Its a cluster frug, loads of frug ups have come together and made things what they are. We had the Black frug up. The Wray frug up which allowed the PDC frug up to happen. Then along came Patey, not so Matey was he. This led to the Jedco frug up, which led us through to numerous frug ups this season.

Now we have Power with his blue wooly, is that the only item of clothing the guy has besides his Rory Bremner impersonation suit I wonder. Yes there are quite a few of us frustrated and hacked off. Take no notice and go back and read some of your early posts, they were great. Have a drink and sleep on things, you know full well this club is in your blood. leave it a few days and come back, nobody will think any the worse of you, crack a few funnies and let things pick up. Just think our next win will be magnificent, even if its a penalty in the 96th minute, I'll take that right now.

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)
Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.
Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.
The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.
Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.
Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.
Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.
Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....
Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.
And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.[/p][/quote]Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.
Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.
This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be "King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.
I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.
Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....
Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!![/p][/quote]Louis old buddy, we are all suffering it , this malais. Its a cluster frug, loads of frug ups have come together and made things what they are. We had the Black frug up. The Wray frug up which allowed the PDC frug up to happen. Then along came Patey, not so Matey was he. This led to the Jedco frug up, which led us through to numerous frug ups this season.
Now we have Power with his blue wooly, is that the only item of clothing the guy has besides his Rory Bremner impersonation suit I wonder. Yes there are quite a few of us frustrated and hacked off. Take no notice and go back and read some of your early posts, they were great. Have a drink and sleep on things, you know full well this club is in your blood. leave it a few days and come back, nobody will think any the worse of you, crack a few funnies and let things pick up. Just think our next win will be magnificent, even if its a penalty in the 96th minute, I'll take that right now.the wizard

Wilesy wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)

Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.

Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.

The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.

Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.

Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.

Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.

Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....

Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.

And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.

Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.

Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.

This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be &quot;King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.

I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.

Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....

Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!!

Louis I for one welcome your posts - always have done. You have passion and speak a lot of sense. Things this season are nowhere near as bad as people think and as Wilsey rightly said considering the previous season things have been okay. End of season fade but at least there are things that can give us something to see a brighter future. Don't give up on the club you love and rise above the muppets who have wound you up - we know you are better than them.

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote:
Reasonable first half but helped significantly by MK playing tippy tappy at the back and playing themselves into trouble a lot (looked very familiar)
Second half I think they brought on Powell into the middle to add steel and Kasim tired and went off and MK took over in midfield. Wish we had a player like that #14 Ali he looked some player - loved a tackle and distributed it well too. Thought he was more attack minded but played holding today. We had no answer to their effort and I thought they deserved the win.
Overall I think the formation was strange and the passion was lacking from the midfield. Smith is willing but still doesn't anticipate and is no Ranger, that said he did some nice flick ons second half and improved.
The formation was the diamond formation but with Pritchard out wide (often ignored) and Smith isolated up top. I was worried beforehand about getting enough width and not being congested in the middle but that was the case at times and too often we were looking to either pass into the spaces or the midfield were getting in each others way. It ended up looking like MK had a good formation and game plan, while we looked a tired team with a poor formation.
Murphy well I would be surprised if retained, after the great Port Vale debut he hasn't shown much imo.
Thought Belford had a faultless game today, very impressed and a couple of great saves.
Ref was excellent as well, a pleasant change.
Wolves is going to be a very tough game with the power of Sako and MacDonald, just can't see how we will get anything out of the game with our bad form and their good form....
Special mention for Cooper he was out to watch the Academy and STFCITC boys at Lydiard Academy this morning, a nice touch.
And Louis Cassis I think your posts earlier are simply disgraceful.[/p][/quote]Good evening,
Well if you think what I said was disgraceful, you should come on here a tad more and read the absolute shat that get written week in and week out, hence today being my last post.
Jockster (and similar) are friggen idiots who provoke a reaction and thieve off it and I just wanted to also provoke some sort of reaction. I have supported, bought merchandise, tickets and taken **** from other people for STFC over the years(as we all have I suppose), but no longer.
This fool that cools himself (Jockster) and the likes because its its not only him to be honest, have nothing better to do than sit on here and be "King of the keyboard"....seen it all before, so i'm off deleting my account and wishing you all the very best.
I will look out for STFC now and again, as now an after thought.......not having my Saturdays ruined by a club not able to Organise a **** up in a brewery and I wouldn't say that if I didn't know some other inside info.
Take care all, I wish you all the very best for 2014 and the future.....
Kind regards, Louis :-)) Oh Jockster........drop dead!![/p][/quote]Louis I for one welcome your posts - always have done. You have passion and speak a lot of sense. Things this season are nowhere near as bad as people think and as Wilsey rightly said considering the previous season things have been okay. End of season fade but at least there are things that can give us something to see a brighter future. Don't give up on the club you love and rise above the muppets who have wound you up - we know you are better than them.bearwoodred

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post bearwood

Yes you are naive.

[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post bearwood[/p][/quote]Yes you are naive.stranglers

louiscassius wrote:
I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...

Sick idiot, go away.

[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote:
I must admit, saying those words made me question myself, but Jock, your such a friggen arsehole, you desire to die you horrible freak....I just hope that in your final moments you think about all the people you slated on here......you you wont......so die horribly you horrible freak......wont be now....but in a couple of years.......youo'l be dead, thank god...[/p][/quote]Sick idiot, go away.stranglers

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

More rose tinted glasses, get real.

[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.[/p][/quote]More rose tinted glasses, get real.stranglers

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

More rose tinted glasses, get real.

Stranglers - I think its more a case of suggesting that you 'one liner' posters of the negative family make it known these plans and financial models you have been keeping to yourself, of how this club will be run when our new investors and world class manager takes over, this will be great to hear what you and your 'one line' colleagues have organised.
Thought not !!

[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.[/p][/quote]More rose tinted glasses, get real.[/p][/quote]Stranglers - I think its more a case of suggesting that you 'one liner' posters of the negative family make it known these plans and financial models you have been keeping to yourself, of how this club will be run when our new investors and world class manager takes over, this will be great to hear what you and your 'one line' colleagues have organised.
Thought not !!Chish and Fips

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post bearwood

Yes you are naive.

Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.

[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post bearwood[/p][/quote]Yes you are naive.[/p][/quote]Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.Chish and Fips

Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic "woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy!

Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic "woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy!The Jockster

The Jockster wrote:
Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic &quot;woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy!

Hope for your sake Jock it is not Special Forces - if so the way you are winding this up I would suggest sleeping with one eye open. ;0)

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic "woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy![/p][/quote]Hope for your sake Jock it is not Special Forces - if so the way you are winding this up I would suggest sleeping with one eye open. ;0)Chish and Fips

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post.

Support is your key word in the whole of that drivel,sorry very informed words.

We have a job,it is our life, to support our club,so I'm bringing the megapahone to our next match!

Yoooouuuu Reds!

[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post.
Support is your key word in the whole of that drivel,sorry very informed words.
We have a job,it is our life, to support our club,so I'm bringing the megapahone to our next match!
Yoooouuuu Reds!red white

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Excellent post Bearwood. Stands out a country mile above much of the negative comments on here at present.

[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Excellent post Bearwood. Stands out a country mile above much of the negative comments on here at present.mancrobin

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

More rose tinted glasses, get real.

Another sniper. Where in my post is there a suggestion that I'm wearing rose tinted glasses? I actually say 'bad run of form'.
All I'm asking for is some constructive ideas from snipers like you It's so easy to sit on the sidelines saying Cooper out, get Hoddle in etc. Any idiot can say these things. The difficult part is to find alternatives or suggestions as to how to convince people like Hoddle to come back here.
You carry on sniping and I'll carry on trying to be positive.
Just remember at the start of the season most of the 'snipers', had us down for relegation fodder.

[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.[/p][/quote]More rose tinted glasses, get real.[/p][/quote]Another sniper. Where in my post is there a suggestion that I'm wearing rose tinted glasses? I actually say 'bad run of form'.
All I'm asking for is some constructive ideas from snipers like you It's so easy to sit on the sidelines saying Cooper out, get Hoddle in etc. Any idiot can say these things. The difficult part is to find alternatives or suggestions as to how to convince people like Hoddle to come back here.
You carry on sniping and I'll carry on trying to be positive.
Just remember at the start of the season most of the 'snipers', had us down for relegation fodder.stfcdod

The Jockster wrote:
Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic &quot;woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy!

Hope for your sake Jock it is not Special Forces - if so the way you are winding this up I would suggest sleeping with one eye open. ;0)

Yo Chish lol! I think he's SAS - that's Saturday and Sunday weekend warrior -- talk about getting het up over such trivia just because I had a pop over his wringing of hands and desolate despair - we're talking about the fortunes of a football club ffs! I could understand his angst if we were talking about the continuing famine or poverty in the third world but to go completely OTT makes me chuckle.

[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Hey Louis cASSius - have you finally gone now? You've played your last post more times than a a Royal Marine bugler for goodness sake. Loving the eloquence of your vitriolic posts, the way your grasp of the English language lets you down - at least we will be spared your pathetic "woe is me" almost suicidal posts. Hopefully by now you've deleted your account and won't reply as I think you have already made your last last last last last post about 10 times over. Oh and this so called inside info? Just another put up or shut up merchant - have fun in your military role - what do you do Louis ? Tea boy in the Mess? Shoulders back lovely boy![/p][/quote]Hope for your sake Jock it is not Special Forces - if so the way you are winding this up I would suggest sleeping with one eye open. ;0)[/p][/quote]Yo Chish lol! I think he's SAS - that's Saturday and Sunday weekend warrior -- talk about getting het up over such trivia just because I had a pop over his wringing of hands and desolate despair - we're talking about the fortunes of a football club ffs! I could understand his angst if we were talking about the continuing famine or poverty in the third world but to go completely OTT makes me chuckle.The Jockster

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Why write all this bolloxx when the first nine words would have done?
And the answer is yes to both of them.
I would take a 6-0 defeat Saturday to get this burden off our backs.
Oh I forgot we are only young and a work in progress.
Send murphy to his other relegation fodder team.

Cooper out asap

[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Why write all this bolloxx when the first nine words would have done?
And the answer is yes to both of them.
I would take a 6-0 defeat Saturday to get this burden off our backs.
Oh I forgot we are only young and a work in progress.
Send murphy to his other relegation fodder team.
Cooper out asapsmirg kcab

bradley red 1 wrote:
New training ground in calne oh yes even more bullsxxx that is now and never was going to happen! keep believing....what jed oh master was spouting.

To be fair, the Calne idea was Jeds, he owned the club at the time, he no longer own the club. A new owner changing the plans of the previous one does not necessarily mean we are being fed bullshot.

[quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote:
New training ground in calne oh yes even more bullsxxx that is now and never was going to happen! keep believing....what jed oh master was spouting.[/p][/quote]To be fair, the Calne idea was Jeds, he owned the club at the time, he no longer own the club. A new owner changing the plans of the previous one does not necessarily mean we are being fed bullshot.LydiardRED67

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

What a well thought and considered post Bearwoodred. In addition to your match summary, I thought it was a classic game of two halves yesterday. We outplayed them for the first half, largely due to our good play and their poor passing and ball retention.

Second half, Robinson went old school league one and pushed two giants up on our full backs making a 4 man hadrians wall forward line and merely fired everything up front early. They didn't outplay us, as we still had opportunities, they just were stronger than us which for me has been the legacy this this season.

I can't agree for those calling for Coopers head. Having followed the town over the years we have seen some truly shocking owner/manager combinations and at present we have one of the better ones of recent years, although I will qualify that by saying for this league. If we were to go higher, would Cooper be the man. Don't know.

Please don't label me a rose tinter, I get as frustrated as the next man when the performances tail off, I just don't say how continuous change is going to remedy that. On the whole we have had a consolidating season, if at the end we can retain our core and add to it, we will do better next year and hopefully be more consistant.

[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]What a well thought and considered post Bearwoodred. In addition to your match summary, I thought it was a classic game of two halves yesterday. We outplayed them for the first half, largely due to our good play and their poor passing and ball retention.
Second half, Robinson went old school league one and pushed two giants up on our full backs making a 4 man hadrians wall forward line and merely fired everything up front early. They didn't outplay us, as we still had opportunities, they just were stronger than us which for me has been the legacy this this season.
I can't agree for those calling for Coopers head. Having followed the town over the years we have seen some truly shocking owner/manager combinations and at present we have one of the better ones of recent years, although I will qualify that by saying for this league. If we were to go higher, would Cooper be the man. Don't know.
Please don't label me a rose tinter, I get as frustrated as the next man when the performances tail off, I just don't say how continuous change is going to remedy that. On the whole we have had a consolidating season, if at the end we can retain our core and add to it, we will do better next year and hopefully be more consistant.LydiardRED67

I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
"Is this a library" :-)

I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
"Is this a library" :-)swwindon61uk

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post bearwood

Yes you are naive.

Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.

You will never get any positive suggestions or post from strangler and his ilk.
I would like to think he does it because he is so passionate, but I am not so sure.

The first half of the season was good,the second half is not so good end result probably finish mid table +.Very exceptable in a transition year.

For the life of me I can not understand the vitriol on this forum considering all that has happened over the last few years.

[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post bearwood[/p][/quote]Yes you are naive.[/p][/quote]Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.[/p][/quote]You will never get any positive suggestions or post from strangler and his ilk.
I would like to think he does it because he is so passionate, but I am not so sure.
The first half of the season was good,the second half is not so good end result probably finish mid table +.Very exceptable in a transition year.
For the life of me I can not understand the vitriol on this forum considering all that has happened over the last few years.Bassett Hound

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

What a well thought and considered post Bearwoodred. In addition to your match summary, I thought it was a classic game of two halves yesterday. We outplayed them for the first half, largely due to our good play and their poor passing and ball retention.

Second half, Robinson went old school league one and pushed two giants up on our full backs making a 4 man hadrians wall forward line and merely fired everything up front early. They didn't outplay us, as we still had opportunities, they just were stronger than us which for me has been the legacy this this season.

I can't agree for those calling for Coopers head. Having followed the town over the years we have seen some truly shocking owner/manager combinations and at present we have one of the better ones of recent years, although I will qualify that by saying for this league. If we were to go higher, would Cooper be the man. Don't know.

Please don't label me a rose tinter, I get as frustrated as the next man when the performances tail off, I just don't say how continuous change is going to remedy that. On the whole we have had a consolidating season, if at the end we can retain our core and add to it, we will do better next year and hopefully be more consistant.

You say anything positive or not negative you will be classed as a rose tinter on here don't worry!
As for Coopers head lets see where the season ends first,if he can turn it round then he will get credit,but i have to say that is a big if.
Couple of the more negative posters want Hoddle, not sure why as he likes to play the ball around from the back also,i think some of these posters deserve the likes of John Beck really.

[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]What a well thought and considered post Bearwoodred. In addition to your match summary, I thought it was a classic game of two halves yesterday. We outplayed them for the first half, largely due to our good play and their poor passing and ball retention.
Second half, Robinson went old school league one and pushed two giants up on our full backs making a 4 man hadrians wall forward line and merely fired everything up front early. They didn't outplay us, as we still had opportunities, they just were stronger than us which for me has been the legacy this this season.
I can't agree for those calling for Coopers head. Having followed the town over the years we have seen some truly shocking owner/manager combinations and at present we have one of the better ones of recent years, although I will qualify that by saying for this league. If we were to go higher, would Cooper be the man. Don't know.
Please don't label me a rose tinter, I get as frustrated as the next man when the performances tail off, I just don't say how continuous change is going to remedy that. On the whole we have had a consolidating season, if at the end we can retain our core and add to it, we will do better next year and hopefully be more consistant.[/p][/quote]You say anything positive or not negative you will be classed as a rose tinter on here don't worry!
As for Coopers head lets see where the season ends first,if he can turn it round then he will get credit,but i have to say that is a big if.
Couple of the more negative posters want Hoddle, not sure why as he likes to play the ball around from the back also,i think some of these posters deserve the likes of John Beck really.swwindon61uk

I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.

More rose tinted glasses, get real.

Another sniper. Where in my post is there a suggestion that I'm wearing rose tinted glasses? I actually say 'bad run of form'.
All I'm asking for is some constructive ideas from snipers like you It's so easy to sit on the sidelines saying Cooper out, get Hoddle in etc. Any idiot can say these things. The difficult part is to find alternatives or suggestions as to how to convince people like Hoddle to come back here.
You carry on sniping and I'll carry on trying to be positive.
Just remember at the start of the season most of the 'snipers', had us down for relegation fodder.

Cooper wont get sacked...
As you say who would wont to come to a club that will have a smaller budget next season..
No big time proven manager will be here as we dont have the ambition of a higher profile manager...

Lets hope the bottom teams dont start going on a run as are past 12 games has a return of 14 POINTS..Lower than relegation form

[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
COOPER OUT.......sort it out POWER[/p][/quote]I've no doubt that one day you will suggest a replacement or a solution to the current bad run of form.
Oh no, you won't, will you. Just continue sniping from the sidelines and I strongly suspect that they're not The County Ground sidelines. Probably don't even know where the CG is.[/p][/quote]More rose tinted glasses, get real.[/p][/quote]Another sniper. Where in my post is there a suggestion that I'm wearing rose tinted glasses? I actually say 'bad run of form'.
All I'm asking for is some constructive ideas from snipers like you It's so easy to sit on the sidelines saying Cooper out, get Hoddle in etc. Any idiot can say these things. The difficult part is to find alternatives or suggestions as to how to convince people like Hoddle to come back here.
You carry on sniping and I'll carry on trying to be positive.
Just remember at the start of the season most of the 'snipers', had us down for relegation fodder.[/p][/quote]Cooper wont get sacked...
As you say who would wont to come to a club that will have a smaller budget next season..
No big time proven manager will be here as we dont have the ambition of a higher profile manager...
Lets hope the bottom teams dont start going on a run as are past 12 games has a return of 14 POINTS..Lower than relegation formdazzastfc

bearwoodred wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.

With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.

So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.

On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.

I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!

We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!

My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.

Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.

There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.

But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.

Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.

Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.

Good post bearwood

Yes you are naive.

Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.

You will never get any positive suggestions or post from strangler and his ilk.
I would like to think he does it because he is so passionate, but I am not so sure.

The first half of the season was good,the second half is not so good end result probably finish mid table +.Very exceptable in a transition year.

For the life of me I can not understand the vitriol on this forum considering all that has happened over the last few years.

The vitriol is easy to understand BH. It comes from non STFC supporters just trying to wind us up. Probably because their own team is doing worse than STFC. Very sad people.

[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote:
maybe I am naive, maybe I am an idiot who does not get football. Living in Brum I am not a season ticket holder as I cannot afford the petrol costs. I do howver aim make with my lad at least 12 games home and away per season. Today was our first game since Walsall away.
With a long drive home and my son listening to Eminem you have time to reflect and think after the disappointment of the late winner for them. With that in mind I found far more positives than negatives today. As a Town fan of 43 by our standards historically this is one of our better seasons. Is it not only three league one play offs in how many years? I can only think of defeats to Brighton, Millwall and Brentford, so why get wound up this season after the problems of the Ego and exiting money man. We don't have a sugar daddy so we have to work with what we have now.
So is Cooper the right man for the job? Historically we have had some managers who never really took us anywhere - the worst for me Hart. We have had the some great first time managers hot from the game - Ardilles, Macari, Hoddle, Wise, Ego etc. What have the latter boys all got in common? The minute they did well along came another club and it was bye bye Town!! Funnily enough only one of them did okay after moving until he found god!!!! So do we not need to find a manager who can grow with the club, is settled, works with the Board and improves in time? Yes is that Cooper? In my mind why not? Why change the manager given what has gone on, what we are trying to do and the fact that this summer should be a far better one for us than last year because the Ego's earners will be gone. I do think that Mass, Kas, Thompsons, Harley, Branco, Troy, Nile and Wes if he stays will be the backbone of a good side next year and I think we will get Pritch and Mason to stay on.
On the match I thought we were on top for the first hour largely due to our ball retention and was impressed with the movement and touch of our players. I thought the defence were loads better than previous games and Troy and Byrne were really on song, Nathan is just Nathan and Ward was solid for a change.
I thought we looked good on the ball, nice touches and players looking to move it forward and some real grit and determination to win the ball. What I was taught when playing regularly was if you cannot find a player do not lose the ball - this is what they are trying to do - bit like Italy. I enjoy our players having the ball more than in previous years. I also think as they get to know each other they will know each others movements, touches, runs and where each player likes to receive it. I saw more of that today than the Walsall game and that is football surely!!
We do seem to miss out in some of the 50/50's and although it was a good ref today I thought we lost a few decisions in good areas - one very strange advantage that wasn't, never mind. Pritch did not retain the ball as much as usual perhaps due to the recent knock and his delivery seemed off to me. Smith whilst runs his heart out does not at the moment have the touch or control we need for this type of football. At times he looks like a Flint playing up front and will thrive on delivery see below!
My concern today was the midfield faded for the last 20 or so and this is becoming a bit of a trend by all accounts but why blame Cooper? For me he tried to mix it up a bit but whilst Mass look good going forward, he struggled by the end to hang onto the ball, Kasim who I still really rate, faded and Louis and Harley are definite players for the future but really do need much more playing time and they are getting it and next season will be better for it. Louis will next season be one of the leagues top players for me along with his brother.
Nothing too much wrong with the formation or tactics, we let in another soft goal and then the doubt set in worsened by a crowd who barely acknowledged the game, never got behind their team and in truth sadly waiting for the defeat. It felt like half the DR lot were willing MKD to score and I genuinely do not understand that, nor did my lad who was clearly uncomfortable with the five lardasses sat around us spending 90 minutes berating the players. Young players thrive on confidence and when the other side scores they will feel under pressure.
There are things Cooper has to work on but the main one for me has to be the delivery, There were probably half a dozen times when Pritch, Harley, Kasim, Pritch again, Smith and finally Nath dallied on the ball on the edge of the box in great positions and failed to cross, find a town player,or shoot effectively. It did look like they were caught in two minds despite other options to them is that inexperience? I think it is! But Mass's touch to put Byrne clean through following a great move was a joy to watch and deserved a finish that never came.
But to finish I would like to ask two questions, why do some people seem to want their side to lose because today it really felt like that! As with this forum people welcome the chance to thrive in defeat and abuse those who try to be positive.
Second especially for Smeg and his ilk. Does England not have a very young side with only five players 24 or over starting on Wednesday and a whole raft of good young players on the cusp? Are we going to win this World Cup? No! Are going to win in Euro Cup 2016? Maybe!!! Are England going to win in Russia - too right we are.
Support and patience needed. Power and Cooper are not stupid and will know what is needed to improve, where we need to strengthen and who is not up to it. The club however will always need our support and today I do feel that we as a crowd did not help get that win.[/p][/quote]Good post bearwood[/p][/quote]Yes you are naive.[/p][/quote]Would you care to expand Stranglers - Bearwood has written an excellent post, so perhaps you could respond likewise with some content this time.
We all are entitled to our opinions would be nice to know what yours are, as opposing to these sniping comments.[/p][/quote]You will never get any positive suggestions or post from strangler and his ilk.
I would like to think he does it because he is so passionate, but I am not so sure.
The first half of the season was good,the second half is not so good end result probably finish mid table +.Very exceptable in a transition year.
For the life of me I can not understand the vitriol on this forum considering all that has happened over the last few years.[/p][/quote]The vitriol is easy to understand BH. It comes from non STFC supporters just trying to wind us up. Probably because their own team is doing worse than STFC. Very sad people.stfcdod

The best manager, team selection, tactics, formation and substitutions in the world are not going to get results if the players aren't good enough. It's pie in the sky to think changing the manager is the answer. The time to judge Cooper would be half way through next season IF he has had a chance to build a team of his own that he can stand or fall by. This has been a stop-gap season, which is fair enough. It's just a pity that McCrory wasn't honest about the perfectly reasonable target set for Cooper - avoiding relegation - at the start of the season. Many people were taken in (again) by McCrory and his talk of promotion. The fact that Cooper managed to get some good results early on just raised expectations even further. There would be less discontent now if we'd been given the full story at the start of the season.

If this decent weather keeps up I believe we'll get some more good results between now and the end of the season - because the style of play and the players we have are suited to good conditions. But football in this country is largely a winter game and that's why we have been found wanting. A complete reappraisal is required for next season.

The best manager, team selection, tactics, formation and substitutions in the world are not going to get results if the players aren't good enough. It's pie in the sky to think changing the manager is the answer. The time to judge Cooper would be half way through next season IF he has had a chance to build a team of his own that he can stand or fall by. This has been a stop-gap season, which is fair enough. It's just a pity that McCrory wasn't honest about the perfectly reasonable target set for Cooper - avoiding relegation - at the start of the season. Many people were taken in (again) by McCrory and his talk of promotion. The fact that Cooper managed to get some good results early on just raised expectations even further. There would be less discontent now if we'd been given the full story at the start of the season.
If this decent weather keeps up I believe we'll get some more good results between now and the end of the season - because the style of play and the players we have are suited to good conditions. But football in this country is largely a winter game and that's why we have been found wanting. A complete reappraisal is required for next season.Oi Den!

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
Lord Vincevt Pericard.[/p][/quote]Earl Frank of Burrows.[/p][/quote]Ruler and King of all he surveys Sir Don Rogers lol!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Master of our greatest day Sir Daniel of the Williams.
Take a bow,sir.red white

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
Lord Vincevt Pericard.[/p][/quote]Earl Frank of Burrows.[/p][/quote]Ruler and King of all he surveys Sir Don Rogers lol!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Master of our greatest day Sir Daniel of the Williams.
Take a bow,sir.red white

Oi Den! wrote:
The best manager, team selection, tactics, formation and substitutions in the world are not going to get results if the players aren't good enough. It's pie in the sky to think changing the manager is the answer. The time to judge Cooper would be half way through next season IF he has had a chance to build a team of his own that he can stand or fall by. This has been a stop-gap season, which is fair enough. It's just a pity that McCrory wasn't honest about the perfectly reasonable target set for Cooper - avoiding relegation - at the start of the season. Many people were taken in (again) by McCrory and his talk of promotion. The fact that Cooper managed to get some good results early on just raised expectations even further. There would be less discontent now if we'd been given the full story at the start of the season.

If this decent weather keeps up I believe we'll get some more good results between now and the end of the season - because the style of play and the players we have are suited to good conditions. But football in this country is largely a winter game and that's why we have been found wanting. A complete reappraisal is required for next season.

I believe we will get in the play offs.Fact.

And then get to Wembley and F''=k it it up !

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
The best manager, team selection, tactics, formation and substitutions in the world are not going to get results if the players aren't good enough. It's pie in the sky to think changing the manager is the answer. The time to judge Cooper would be half way through next season IF he has had a chance to build a team of his own that he can stand or fall by. This has been a stop-gap season, which is fair enough. It's just a pity that McCrory wasn't honest about the perfectly reasonable target set for Cooper - avoiding relegation - at the start of the season. Many people were taken in (again) by McCrory and his talk of promotion. The fact that Cooper managed to get some good results early on just raised expectations even further. There would be less discontent now if we'd been given the full story at the start of the season.
If this decent weather keeps up I believe we'll get some more good results between now and the end of the season - because the style of play and the players we have are suited to good conditions. But football in this country is largely a winter game and that's why we have been found wanting. A complete reappraisal is required for next season.[/p][/quote]I believe we will get in the play offs.Fact.
And then get to Wembley and F''=k it it up !red white

the don69 wrote:
Well,well,well Man City with all their dosh failed again against little Wigan! how about a Wigan v Sheff Utd Final? and the league one team below us in the league to win the cup LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Don at least man city got beat by a real team, we couldn't even beat a plastic one under cooper.
Te to bring McDonald back to cheer up the place

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
Well,well,well Man City with all their dosh failed again against little Wigan! how about a Wigan v Sheff Utd Final? and the league one team below us in the league to win the cup LOL!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Don at least man city got beat by a real team, we couldn't even beat a plastic one under cooper.
Te to bring McDonald back to cheer up the placesmirg kcab

The reaason there is no passion in the ground is because there is none on the pitch. Supporters react to effort and a style of play that gets people excited. The current style while perhaps technically competent is simply not exciting. The second half yesterday was so flat the crowd got more and more frustrated. After 60 minutes it was obvious to me that Luongos legs had gone. Not blaming the guy but he was running on empty. Murphy before NGuessan also a bit of a joke...this guy has shown nothing skills or effort wise and I couldnt care less if he gos back to Norwich. At least Tijane is a Swindon player and surely no worse. When the performance started to tail off I didnt see captain charisma Ward react at all. I love it when Cooper then singled out Troy for not pushing out of defence. I feel he is tactically inept and his tone on the radio made me wonder how he could motivate the players to perform. It really is pretty grim stuff at the CG st the moment and has even made me wonder about renewing (have been supporting Town since 1977)....

The reaason there is no passion in the ground is because there is none on the pitch. Supporters react to effort and a style of play that gets people excited. The current style while perhaps technically competent is simply not exciting. The second half yesterday was so flat the crowd got more and more frustrated. After 60 minutes it was obvious to me that Luongos legs had gone. Not blaming the guy but he was running on empty. Murphy before NGuessan also a bit of a joke...this guy has shown nothing skills or effort wise and I couldnt care less if he gos back to Norwich. At least Tijane is a Swindon player and surely no worse. When the performance started to tail off I didnt see captain charisma Ward react at all. I love it when Cooper then singled out Troy for not pushing out of defence. I feel he is tactically inept and his tone on the radio made me wonder how he could motivate the players to perform. It really is pretty grim stuff at the CG st the moment and has even made me wonder about renewing (have been supporting Town since 1977)....Mchalethegreat

Hen we are getting spanked 5-0 by wolves let's see how many of you still want him here then, Cooper out !!

I have never sang we are coopers red and white army and never will.....

We are Swindons red and white army

Hen we are getting spanked 5-0 by wolves let's see how many of you still want him here then, Cooper out !!
I have never sang we are coopers red and white army and never will.....
We are Swindons red and white armyIs that you Lovesey

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Hen we are getting spanked 5-0 by wolves let's see how many of you still want him here then, Cooper out !!

I have never sang we are coopers red and white army and never will.....

We are Swindons red and white army

Lovesey, from my point of view at least, it's not a question of particularly wanting Cooper as manager. It's a question of not blaming him unfairly. I fail to see how any manager could do better than Cooper is doing with these players. It reminds me of 3 years ago, when Hart was getting slaughtered for not performing miracles with a team that had just taken 3 points of the 33 available before he arrived, and last season when MacDonald picked up a side that had lost 3 or 4 key players and just lost at home to the worst team in the division. It doesn't have to be the manager's fault - especially if the manager is working with players that he might not even want.

[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote:
Hen we are getting spanked 5-0 by wolves let's see how many of you still want him here then, Cooper out !!
I have never sang we are coopers red and white army and never will.....
We are Swindons red and white army[/p][/quote]Lovesey, from my point of view at least, it's not a question of particularly wanting Cooper as manager. It's a question of not blaming him unfairly. I fail to see how any manager could do better than Cooper is doing with these players. It reminds me of 3 years ago, when Hart was getting slaughtered for not performing miracles with a team that had just taken 3 points of the 33 available before he arrived, and last season when MacDonald picked up a side that had lost 3 or 4 key players and just lost at home to the worst team in the division. It doesn't have to be the manager's fault - especially if the manager is working with players that he might not even want.Oi Den!

the don69 wrote:
Well,well,well Man City with all their dosh failed again against little Wigan! how about a Wigan v Sheff Utd Final? and the league one team below us in the league to win the cup LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Don at least man city got beat by a real team, we couldn't even beat a plastic one under cooper.
Te to bring McDonald back to cheer up the place

It's a massive week for Coops and his players! two heavy defeats against Wolves&Sh1ty and the writing could be on the wall for Power to start hunting for a manager? a lot of fans are worried we're getting worse and are losing faith in Power and a even more think Coops is not up to the managers job? it's hardly ever running smoothly at the dear ol County Ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
Well,well,well Man City with all their dosh failed again against little Wigan! how about a Wigan v Sheff Utd Final? and the league one team below us in the league to win the cup LOL!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Don at least man city got beat by a real team, we couldn't even beat a plastic one under cooper.
Te to bring McDonald back to cheer up the place[/p][/quote]It's a massive week for Coops and his players! two heavy defeats against Wolves&Sh1ty and the writing could be on the wall for Power to start hunting for a manager? a lot of fans are worried we're getting worse and are losing faith in Power and a even more think Coops is not up to the managers job? it's hardly ever running smoothly at the dear ol County Ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the don69

swwindon61uk wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
&quot;Is this a library" :-)

what do you expect

[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
"Is this a library" :-)[/p][/quote]what do you expectalchafreds

[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
Jackson scored again yesterday.[/p][/quote]How well has he done lately[/p][/quote]Not to good he's been dropped a few times.jayden

swwindon61uk wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
&quot;Is this a library" :-)

So you think Swindon fans wonted use to lose....
When we scored did the Swindon fans boo !!!!!! NO THOUGHT NOT,,
You cant blame the fans for are slump
The dressing room was lost after the long xmas break we had..just look at the results...

Very poor crowd yesterday and it wont improve as I know loads of people who are not renewing there season ticket 4 next season

[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
"Is this a library" :-)[/p][/quote]So you think Swindon fans wonted use to lose....
When we scored did the Swindon fans boo !!!!!! NO THOUGHT NOT,,
You cant blame the fans for are slump
The dressing room was lost after the long xmas break we had..just look at the results...
Very poor crowd yesterday and it wont improve as I know loads of people who are not renewing there season ticket 4 next seasondazzastfc

swwindon61uk wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
&quot;Is this a library" :-)

So you think Swindon fans wonted use to lose....
When we scored did the Swindon fans boo !!!!!! NO THOUGHT NOT,,
You cant blame the fans for are slump
The dressing room was lost after the long xmas break we had..just look at the results...

Very poor crowd yesterday and it wont improve as I know loads of people who are not renewing there season ticket 4 next season

Yes the crowd is quiet and it needs magic on the pitch to gee things up, which we are not often seeing too much of at present, but there is no way I can believe the genuine Town fans want things to go wrong.

Did people notice the crowd come to light when Pritchard sprinted 50 yards for a 30/70 ball into the corner, got to it and then whipped in a superb cross? Almost a standing ovation. It's moments like that which both get the crowd going and also the team. Cooper can't make people chase those lost causes, it needs to come from within the players to push themselves, but when they do they get the positive response it deserves.

[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
I thought the crowd were poor yesterday with their support even when things were going well,you could sense most were waiting/wanting it to go wrong,they got there wish!
Clearly to me now the dressing room has been lost and the immense negative feel among the crowd is also not helping IMO.
"Is this a library" :-)[/p][/quote]So you think Swindon fans wonted use to lose....
When we scored did the Swindon fans boo !!!!!! NO THOUGHT NOT,,
You cant blame the fans for are slump
The dressing room was lost after the long xmas break we had..just look at the results...
Very poor crowd yesterday and it wont improve as I know loads of people who are not renewing there season ticket 4 next season[/p][/quote]Yes the crowd is quiet and it needs magic on the pitch to gee things up, which we are not often seeing too much of at present, but there is no way I can believe the genuine Town fans want things to go wrong.
Did people notice the crowd come to light when Pritchard sprinted 50 yards for a 30/70 ball into the corner, got to it and then whipped in a superb cross? Almost a standing ovation. It's moments like that which both get the crowd going and also the team. Cooper can't make people chase those lost causes, it needs to come from within the players to push themselves, but when they do they get the positive response it deserves.Wilesy

That was a very poor second half display!! Keep this form up and Cooper will be replaced at the end of term.. As many have been saying, the best form of defence is attack.. Why can't Cooper see it if 7000 others can.... Anyway, onwards and sideways........

That was a very poor second half display!! Keep this form up and Cooper will be replaced at the end of term.. As many have been saying, the best form of defence is attack.. Why can't Cooper see it if 7000 others can.... Anyway, onwards and sideways........We are PANTS