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Just another WordPress weblogSun, 02 Aug 2015 22:27:36 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.3By: zamhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355904
Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:02:02 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355904that you are 19-38 against teams over .500 isn’t bad in and of itself. You have to look at what other coaches/teams are.

My guess is that his w-l record is better than other coaches against teams that are under .500 given his overall record. And that means consistency.

Put another way, if you play 16 games, and half are against sub-500 teams, you win 100% of those you have 8 wins, and win one third of the remaining games, that’s roughly 3 games. You are 11-5 and playoff bound.

Wish I would have read that before I posted those stats. I guess you can spin things that on the surface look great but when dissected don’t look so great. Oh well I guess time will tell. And you have to admit though that Lovie is light years ahead of the previous two hires. Finally some NFL head coaching experience. Something we all were calling for after the Raheem Morris experiment. I do miss Raheem’s pressers though.

]]>By: Rrsrqhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355620
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:02:07 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355620I believe bill belicheck learned a few things his second time around interesting how fans have pre-judged the coach. While most have hope of someone with NFL experience, Bucs can win I believe with the possible Andy Reid effect, but I agree got to have competition at QB, I’m still saying Brett Hundley if he comes out, trade back into first round late to get him if he comes out. He has size, arm, intelligence and athleticism. Like Beckles said, athleticism can hide some of the offensive deficiencies.
]]>By: lurkerhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355491
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 19:58:45 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355491@rob

that is not good…even bears’ fans say he could only beat creampuffs and his teams found ways to give games away.

]]>By: lurkerhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355490
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 19:55:59 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355490@ harry
“Good link/story. Could the difference be one has a solid QB, and the other has a Freeman clone? That would be my thinking over who is the better coach.”

yes, but we do not have aaron rodgers @ qb, nor even cutler.

]]>By: Hesson0208http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355482
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 19:41:47 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355482If we get Sammy Watkins, Charles Tillman, & either Peppers or Jared Allen, I think Mike Glennon can possibly take us to the Superbowl (playing the Brad Johnson role)… Maybe even as soon as next year.
]]>By: Bucsfan11http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-3355404
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:11:21 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355404One thing that Tedford has shown is that he has an eye for qb’s. Let’s remember that Aaron Rodgers was found by Tedford in a JC when he went to go look at someone else. He has countlessly shown that he can produce a pro caliber qb. If glennon is the man then he will keep him. If he’s not then he’ll go after someone else. I think glennon has proved his worth for another season. I expect the bucs to take a late round pic on a qb or if the right person is on the board jump on him. The should not use the 7th pick on a qb. Does everyone remember who we won the Super Bowl with – a qb who could get the job done but no more than that. That’s all that was needed with the right pieces and coach though. Look at KC with Alex Smith….

Going back to the GM talk. We need someone with cap experience. Gm’s can surround themselves with the best talent evaluators. If they can’t work numbers they put the franchise in jeopardy. They need to make smart decisions with the resources they have. Every organization has a dozen or more scouts for the talent purpose. There’s only one or two people who handle the finances and contracts. I’m going to throw a name out there – Mike Greenberg. Greenberg is the director of football administration and handles all of the contracts. Kid is an Ivy League grad, lawyer, and has been dealing with the cap in Tampa and previously worked under tannenbaum on ny. He’s young an will provide a fresh face to the organization. Lovie is going to have more power than most coaches anyway being that he was brought in first. They need to seriously look at Greenberg as a candidate for GM.

]]>By: Couch Fanhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355329
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:23:35 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355329No QB in this world can win or even look good with just 1 quality receiver, a bad O-line and bad coaching along with bad play calling.

You can sit here all day Joe and try to tell us Glennon is not special, but that is nothing more than your bias opinion because we all know how badly you want ole jonny boy. Lol. Keep trying though.

]]>By: Robhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355327
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:17:07 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355327With Lovie as the 10th coach in Bucs history, that gives us an average coaching tenure of 4.22222222 (with a line over it) years. Not too bad I guess. Lets hope Lovie increases that average significantly.

Over Lovie’s 9 years as head coach of the Bears he had only 3 losing seasons. His first year at 5-11 and two others at 7-9. With a 3-3 record in the playoffs making it to the post season 3 out of the 9 years and once to the Super Bowl in 2006. Thats pretty damn good winning football with consistently poor offenses. Only one year did they finish in the top 15 (right at number 15) in total offensive yards. Every other year was 23rd or worse. That same year they finished 2nd in offensive points (14th or worse every other year). Those numbers would be good enough to propel them into his only Super Bowl appearance in 2006. With a productive offense he could be a very successful coach.

Some other interesting tid bits, some of which you may already know…we have only two coaches in history with winning records – Dungy (54-42 regular season, 2-4 playoffs) and Gruden (57-55 regular season, 3-2 playoffs). While John McKay is the longest tenured Bucs coach from 1976-1984 with a regular season record of 44-88-1 and playoff record of 1-3.

]]>By: Harryhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355326
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:16:57 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355326@JoeSays:
lurker: That may be worse than Freeman’s record vs. teams with a winning record. Ouch.

Good link/story. Could the difference be one has a solid QB, and the other has a Freeman clone? That would be my thinking over who is the better coach.

]]>By: OBhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355321
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:11:38 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355321If the new coaches know what they are doing, they will evaluate everything before the draft and free agency dates for the positions that need help and make the decisions based on what they see and know. If they don’t, we will know we are in for a long year or two until the next crew comes along.

I, for one, believe they will do very well in their actions, but they are only human and some mistakes will be made both good and bad, I just hope that they make less of the bad ones then all the other coaches.

]]>By: Snookhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355311
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:53:58 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355311Technically, Lovie doesn’t know the Bucs facilities. Last time he was in Tampa, they were still working out of the tin cans at old One Buc.
]]>By: Pinnaql3http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355309
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:49:49 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355309Tampa Bay DOES NOT need to draft a QB in the 1st Round. PERIOD.
Tampa Bay DOES NOT need “flash“ and/or “flavor“ at the QB position to win. (anyone that’s citing flash/flavor to describe their needs/wants from a guy should just get back to watching figure skating and Broadway Musicals. Seriously)
Tampa Bay needs protection so the QB can do what QBs get paid to do.
Tampa Bay needs running lanes so RBs can do what RBs get paid to do.
Right now, Glennon is good enough to be good enough.
***Brett Smith, 2014 4th Round Selection of your Tampa Bay BUCCANEERS ***
]]>By: Joehttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355297
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:32:55 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355297lurker:

That may be worse than Freeman’s record vs. teams with a winning record. Ouch.

]]>By: lurkerhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/01/the-perfect-hire/comment-page-1/#comment-3355290
Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:25:16 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=104923#comment-3355290hopefully lovie learned some things while he took the money and lazed around. he did already hire an intriguing oc. maybe this time around he can improve on other things like game management. also, a big concern he he flat out sucked against winning teams: 19-38 against winning teams. horrible!

interesting article here back on 12/06/12 when lovie’s team collapsed against the seachickens. it also compares lovie’s record to mike McCarthy’s with the packers.