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nikk on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3430276
Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:25:13 +0000nikk3430276@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Both the mountain biker and the contractor were interviewed about the incident, which happened on a live harvesting site where appropriate closure signs were in place.</p>
<p>Both parties acknowledged an element of fault and regretted that the incident took place, and neither wished to pursue the matter further.</blockquote></p>
<p>All's well that ends well.
</p>wwaswas on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3429782
Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:51:48 +0000wwaswas3429782@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>a happy ending;</p>
<p><a href="http://bikemagic.com/events/event-news/forestry-commission-settles-youtube-dispute.html">http://bikemagic.com/events/event-news/forestry-commission-settles-youtube-dispute.html</a>
</p>redthunder on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3367380
Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:43:46 +0000redthunder3367380@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>Anyone got a copy of this vid of Nick Ryder? </blockquote></p>
<p>From the earlier links the profile name is "Nick Ryder", could be anyone. This was the profile name of the deleted vid.</p>
<p>This one:<br />
<a href="http://82.197.69.8/rydersmtb/" rel="nofollow">http://82.197.69.8/rydersmtb/</a></p>
<p>Still would like to see the full video before I make my own conclusions.
</p>neninja on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3364333
Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:36:20 +0000neninja3364333@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><a href="http://singletrackworld.com/2012/01/forestry-commission-announce-investigation-into-assault-video/" rel="nofollow">http://singletrackworld.com/2012/01/forestry-commission-announce-investigation-into-assault-video/</a></p>
<p>I hope some forestry workers aren't going to lose their jobs because of a smart arse with a video camera who wants to show everyone how clever he is.
</p>wdh on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3363541
Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:19:56 +0000wdh3363541@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I'm Tom from Wentwood Downhill that red thunder linked to above, my comment is on the link above but I'll post it here as well</p>
<p>Thanks for posting that up. To make a proper response I would need to see the un edited version of the video. He made a valid question but perhaps didn't go about asking it in the best way. FC respond best to e-mails phone calls and planned meetings, asking the workers direct is not going to result in the action you want but likely to result in arguments like in this video. Also the guy was a contractor so clearly has no tolerance for someone telling him how to do his job. Although I don't agree with the riders way of confronting the FC I definetly don't agree with the reaction he recieved, especially after Ive met many FC workers all who seen very down to earth and easy to speak to. In my view it definetly sent the wrong image to the wider community. I'd advise if riders had issues that they contacted me first and I can bring it up with the relevant people. Hopefully this doesn't have an effect on riders wanting to come to wentwood as its a great place to visit.
</p>schrickvr6 on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3363442
Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:02:35 +0000schrickvr63363442@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Nick Ryder formerly of Ryders bike shop?
</p>redthunder on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3362493
Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:23:50 +0000redthunder3362493@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I've added a post to Wentwood Cycling Assocoiation. Tom will probably pin it to the top for a while.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wentwooddownhill.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=1132" rel="nofollow">http://www.wentwooddownhill.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=1132</a></p>
<p>Anyone got a copy of this vid of Nick Ryder?
</p>timber on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3359455
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:33:13 +0000timber3359455@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Leaving brash also fulfils the requirements of FSC accreditation to leave 'x' amount of wood on site for habitat. With bio fuel power stations, it's now quite easy to sell the brash if you have a baler, but FSC/UKWAS accreditation is still valued.</p>
<p>The clear up is also more likely to fall to a different team/contractor to the felling. If the site is replanted the brash will probably be rowed up and if you are lucky, you will find that brash mats would have been built over trails to protect them during harvesting.</p>
<p>FC timber fetches lower prices as the standard tends to be lower than private estates. They also conatin a lot of Larch which is getting crap prices right now due to Phytopthora ramorum flooding the market with the stuff.</p>
<p>Not seen the video due to it being pulled, but one of our biggest problems at work is numpties coming through barrier tape and onto site, just because you can't see us or a big machine, doesn't mean there isn't a tree flying your way or hanging over your head.</p>
<p>I know one contractor that works over that way, but he isn't a patient man and this guy would've had a lot of shots of his intestines.</p>
<p>And remember, trees are a crop, like wheat, just a bit slower.
</p>kitebikeski on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358910
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:08:49 +0000kitebikeski3358910@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>AS an aside I thought the brash was left so as it rotted down the nutrients went back into the soil? </p>
<p>The brash is left until most of the needles have fallen off as they contain most of the nutrients. Also the income from the brash is greater than the cost of applying fertliser.</p>
<p>The timber income acheived by FC for it's clients (us) is far less than the private sector acheives for it's clients
</p>rickmeister on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358861
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:00:53 +0000rickmeister3358861@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Came here via the ST front page too... </p>
<p><blockquote> Expenditure :<br />
Harvesting and haulage 41.2<br />
Recreation, etc 56.0<br />
Other 58.1</p>
<p>Income :<br />
Timber 77.4<br />
Recreation, etc 18.7<br />
Other 23.0<br />
</blockquote></p>
<p>Agree with all the comments about the provocation of camera boy, but as an aside I found these figures interesting, especially the difference between what the FC spend on supporting recreation as opposed to what they get back from car park fees, etc etc...
</p>carlphillips on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358804
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:51:09 +0000carlphillips3358804@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>+1 for rusty..<br />
mtb bell end IMO</p>
<p>edit: and name and shame the bell end please...stw pitchforks at the ready <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>CaptainFlashheart on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358771
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:43:41 +0000CaptainFlashheart3358771@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>+another for Rusty. </p>
<p>On the front page now as well;<br />
<a href="http://singletrackworld.com/?p=30631" rel="nofollow">http://singletrackworld.com/?p=30631</a>
</p>flatfish on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358675
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:25:06 +0000flatfish3358675@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>+1 for rusty
</p>redthunder on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358672
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:24:42 +0000redthunder3358672@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>I ride Wentwood all the time. And never had a problem with Forestry Workers often stop and chat and all have been cool. </p>
<p>Never saw the video, so cant really comment.</p>
<p>I built and riden <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> and lost <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":-(" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> many trails in Wentwood. But thats just part of our game IMO. </p>
<p>The NEW Trail will be better. However, I never really got over losing the "Lost Trail" over Gray Hill way :-(.
</p>Rusty Shackleford on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358668
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:24:14 +0000Rusty Shackleford3358668@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Someone should point the Commission to this thread, to emphasise that these forest visitors, who One would think likely side with the cyclist, actually think he's a MAHOOSIVE bell-end and does us no favours at all.
</p>julianwilson on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3358386
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:22:13 +0000julianwilson3358386@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><a href="http://singletrackworld.com/2012/01/forestry-commission-announce-investigation-into-assault-video/">http://singletrackworld.com/2012/01/forestry-commission-announce-investigation-into-assault-video/</a></p>
<p>Lifted from larger quote by FC spokesperson:<br />
<blockquote>Good relations with visitors to our forests – and, indeed, their safety – are extremely important to us. </blockquote></p>
<p>Good grief. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_neutral.gif" title=":|" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>Northwind on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/3#post-3350633
Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:26:59 +0000Northwind3350633@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>It's a tree factory. You wouldn't expect unlimited access to ride your bike through a car factory, even if it was publically owned. And if you tried, you'd not be too shocked to have a factory worker boot you up the arse.
</p>stumpyjon on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/2#post-3350610
Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:22:55 +0000stumpyjon3350610@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>&gt;No it's private land owned or leased by the governement&lt;</p>
<p>On behalf of the nation.... </blockquote></p>
<p>Still doesn't mean we have any right of access to to it. The government owns large numbers of buildings but you wouldn't expect to use one of those whenever you felt like. There's a very big difference between being owned by the government and open for access.
</p>thegreatape on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/2#post-3350577
Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:13:16 +0000thegreatape3350577@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p><blockquote>He is certainly a member on here... quite quiet on this thread though, eh?</blockquote></p>
<p>Enlighten us!
</p>Kit on "forestry commission thug...?"http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/forestry-commission-thug/page/2#post-3350560
Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:06:33 +0000Kit3350560@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/<p>Not seen the video, but most people lose the rag because it's simply the last straw. Maybe he'd had a load of other arseholes having a go at him all week, or he's having problems at home, or just found out he's about to be laid off, or thinking about how badly paid forestry work is... then some self-important twunt pushes his buttons and BOOM! Carnage <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>