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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 20:29:29 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: defscottybhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/03/nfl-to-meet-with-new-york-legislator-who-questions-legitimacy-of-ray-halbritter/#comment-2919698
Tue, 05 Nov 2013 10:47:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2919698God I can’t wait until this goes away as usual and it’s a non-story again. Let’s get back to talking about football again.
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Tue, 05 Nov 2013 01:18:51 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2919071Why does our president push the Washington Redskins to change their name and logo, but celebrates his hometown Chicago Blackhawks?
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:20:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2917823I wonder if “gravedigger93″ is aware that they still fly the confederate flag over the SC state capital . You see? There are many things that still are a slap in the face to blacks. Can’t whine about everything ….this name change is stupid.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:32:24 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916899The Chief of the Rappahannock Tribe took a more blunt approach with her opinion, dismissing the debate as largely irrelevant.

“There are so many more issues that are important for the tribe than to waste time on what a team is called. We’re worried about real things, and I don’t consider that a real thing,” G. Anne Richardson told the newspaper.

“We’re more worried about our kids being educated, our people housed, elder care and the survival of our culture. We’ve been in that survival mode for 400 years. We’re not worried about how some ball team is named.”

If Redskin had ever been as a derogatory term for black people then the Redskin name would have been changed long ago.
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Maybe if the term Redskin were universally rejected by Native Americans as an offensive name for a football team it would have been changed long ago too. But according to a 2004 poll, 90% of Native Americans do not NOT find it offensive. And anecdotally, some Native Americans are actually Redskins fans and display their paraphernalia. Now why doesn’t someone ask Mr. Halbritter what he has to say about that?

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 05:46:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916486The Seminoles just came into my mind because I was watching FSU vs. MIA and saw the guy in full Ind.. err.. Native American garb on the horse and sticking the flaming spear in the field.
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Yes, because Florida State paid them off, they put them on the payroll. So, all the outrage magically vanished. It’s all about $$$ my friend.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 05:34:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916469and oh yeah… Ray Halbritter is a fraud.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 04:02:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916314@ detective. Seminole is a tribe that was in Florida not a racial slur lol.
If the skins used the name Washington Cherokees this wouldn’t be an issue.
How about the Washington camel jockeys? That wouldn’t go well with a certain group of people now would it..
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:26:47 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916251Should be an interesting month. I can see the Oneida Indian Nation suing the American Government for continually celebrating Thanksgiving as a national holiday. Since obviously that “dinner” was the beginning of “mass relocations, slavery, and genocide” – gravedigger93 We should be more sensitive and ban that holiday.

This debate gets old, every nationality in this country has a past of slavery or persecution. Yes even the white people were serfs (slaves) or left Europe to avoid religious persecution and death.

If Redskin had ever been as a derogatory term for black people then the Redskin name would have been changed long ago. Just another example of how Native Americans are still disrespected in this country. When it’s black people that claim an offense, people go out of their way to solve the issue as quickly as possible. When Native Americans claim an offense, no one takes it seriously and it gets dismissed. 500 years since Europeans came to America and the natives still can’t catch a break…mass relocations, slavery, and genocide took place, but I’m sorry you’re sick of being politically correct. We still treat black slavery with incredible reverence, as we should, but the treatment of Native Americans gets tossed aside like it’s ancient history and not relevant any longer.
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Your point: the name, Redskin is racist; and the Native Americans are long overdo sensitivity, compassion, respect, and morose apologies for past atrocities. NOW, do it without disparaging and diminishing another minorities equally painful and tragic history. Why pit one cause against the other. Man’s inhumanity to man needs glaring and harsh light shed on it all around. GET IT!

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:11:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2916073This is exhausting. There has to be other more important issues facing Native Americans right? I mean, if they succeed in getting the Skins to change the name, how does this improve their many problems?
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 01:22:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915923Call just came in from New Delhi, asking the Oneida Indian Nation to change their name.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 01:02:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915827Hope Detective Jimmy is assigned to my case if I commit a crime because the Chiefs have used the Tomahawk chop since I’ve had tickets (1988).

This made me laugh really hard. +1

The Seminoles just came into my mind because I was watching FSU vs. MIA and saw the guy in full Ind.. err.. Native American garb on the horse and sticking the flaming spear in the field.

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:49:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915755The reason the Oneida Nation is the only one complaining is because it is the only group that NBC could find to stir up controversy among liberal limp wristers. These people are the ones that drive political correctness, which is nothing more than quelling freedom of speech unless you agree with them. The media will always seek out those that agree with their views, to push their agenda, no matter how fringe or few the group is and try to make it seem like a majority view. Having a degree in broadcasting and worked in the field, I saw how easy it is to manipulate the news and is really easy to spot if you pay attention.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:39:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915710No one ever names a professional team any name that is derogatory regardless of what a tiny group of new yorkers think. Can’t anyone find an Indian in the Washington area that has a problem with the name? Clearly the term is a complement to Indians and not a slur. People want their professional sports teams to be thought of as tough warriors! Only a few Indians in new york and a few media talking heads are making an issue an issue of this. There is no evidence that Halbritter is even an Indian regardless if he is a representative or not.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:35:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915687Bingo Maddenboy….this is ridiculous!
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:31:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915662Tenney is competent attorney; but this screams of yet another white, rich, Republican political move to create visibility for someone who wants to appeal to an uber-conservative, bigoted, ignorant partisan base.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:22:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915608Hope Detective Jimmy is assigned to my case if I commit a crime because the Chiefs have used the Tomahawk chop since I’ve had tickets (1988).
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:22:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915604please give it a rest.

As usual, minimum 2 posts per day on this topic.

If you check the “thumbs up” vs. the “thumbs down” on all of these posts, the vast majority either side with the Redskins, or dont really care.

These grown men will work it out amongst themselves. . We dont need PFT to fan the flames.

Please, lets get back to FOOTBALL.

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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:11:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915575If Redskin had ever been as a derogatory term for black people then the Redskin name would have been changed long ago. Just another example of how Native Americans are still disrespected in this country. When it’s black people that claim an offense, people go out of their way to solve the issue as quickly as possible. When Native Americans claim an offense, no one takes it seriously and it gets dismissed. 500 years since Europeans came to America and the natives still can’t catch a break…mass relocations, slavery, and genocide took place, but I’m sorry you’re sick of being politically correct. We still treat black slavery with incredible reverence, as we should, but the treatment of Native Americans gets tossed aside like it’s ancient history and not relevant any longer.
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:08:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915565Why is the Oneida Nation the group protesting? Why not the Seminoles, Sioux, Cherokee or even a group located in/near Virginia (as opposed to one from upstate New York)
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Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:03:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2222088#comment-2915553@detective jimmy
The term has previously been used with derogatory intent while white or black has not. Also Washington has the only name that can be deemed racist, Seminole, Chiefs, Braves are not. Cleveland using a mis-identifier is eh but their mascot/logo is questionable.

Those that ask why now I would answer that it isn’t new as I remember hearing about it in the 90s particularly when the Chiefs, Braves and Seminoles were asked to stop the tomahawk chop. The Chiefs stopped doing it fairly quickly, the Seminoles took a little longer to stop and the braves took forever.

To the term itself it has lost a lot of its derogatory meaning not by an understanding but rather the annihilation of the tribes that inhabited this continent.