Today he slept nearly 2 hours from 10:15-12:05, but his first wt was 3.75 hours, not 4 which is recommended for 1 nap. I considered waking him but he's been so ot lately due to colds and teething and the 2-1 transiting so I let him sleep . Should I put him to bed at 6:15 tonight, 6.25 hours after he woke. Or try for second nap at 4? Which is late and he'll have a late bt? I've been planning to do bed at 6 but I'm doubting myself as he seems to be fading! He's asking to nurse and getting a little clingy. Tia!

Eta: I ended up putting him down for second nap 4 hours after he woke. So like 4:05 and he SEEMS to have gone right out. 4 pm nap is later than I'd like, quite honestly, but he really seemed like he needed it! I'm considering waking him after 30 minutes to preserve bt. 8 pm is still really late for bed. I'm also wondering if since his morning wt pushed out by 15 minutes if maybe he's more or less traded that time with his middle wt? Should i shave 15 minutes from his second wt and put his schedule at 3.75/3.75/3.5 to keep his twt from getting too high while I wait for him to be ready for a 4 hour first wt? He's been waking wrecked from second nap lately when he's taken it and I'm finding the 2-1 transition really difficult for him. Between colds and the fact that 2-1 is hard anyway lol any advice is helpful!

I should also add that up until a couple weeks ago he was extremely regular with his schedule. He'd go down at 10, sleep until 11:15. Nap 2 was at 3:15 and he'd wake by 4 and have a 7:30 bt. He sttn and up until a couple weeks ago wouldn't stir until 6/6:30. I just need to get his first wt stretched to 4 hours and he's not yet ready!!

UPDATE 2: I let him sleep 45 minutes until 4:45. Hee seems like he's fighting another cold and needs the sleep so I'm going to trust his little body. I kinda think the 11.25 twt has been too long and is catching up with him. I'm going to do an11 hour twt tonight and put him down at 8. That's later than usual but he's had nearly 3 hours in naps today, too, and today is the first day he hasn't woken from 2nd nap totally devastated in a week or so (I take that back, not sure what's up with him). Unless anyone has another idea tomorrow I'm going to try doing a 3.75/3.75/3.5 hour twt and hope for the best!

Ok well here goes nothing! We're going to try putting him down at 8 o'clock after a 3.25 hour wt instead of a 3.5 hour wt like we usually do in an effort to maintain a reasonable bt and to keep his twt at 11 hours instead of 11.25 in an effort to help minimize ot during the 2-1 transition. I'm really hopeful that this is the right course of action, he's been really struggling with this transition, more than my oldest did. So any advice or encouragement that we're on the right track based off my ramblings would be appreciated!!

UPDATE: put him down at 8 and he went right out, seemingly. He's been down 10 minutes and i can tell from the video monitor and how he's stirring occasionally that he's not in a deep sleep yet, but he mostly still and quiet. In case someone in the future reads this and it sounds like your kiddo I'll be sure to try and update in the morning. My thinking is that he was ready for a longer first wt because he was taking up to an hour to fall asleep for first nap and then taking a30 minute cat nap. Pushing that wt out from 3.5 hours to 3.75 hours made all the difference there. I kept all his other wt the same equaling an 11.25 twt with the increase in his first wt. I think it was too much and he started accumulating sleep debt that he hopefully repaid today. I'm going to play tomorrow by ear as far as wt. His first will undoubtedly by 3.75, but his next one I will plan to be 3.75 instead of 4 like it has been. . but if he's not seeming tired I'm going to put him down asst his usual 4hour wt. But he's seemed tired earlier than usual since I bumped his first wt so it'll be interesting. Depending on what that wt is will determine his final wt, I won't let him exceed 11 hours twt and tomorrow I'll limit naps to preserve bt. I had a feeling he was catching up today, I'm not sure if letting him go as long as I did at both naps is what would be recommended by sleep experts but hopefully it was what he needed today.

I'd still love feedback about my course of action for tomorrow if anyone has any and how to best help him transition and drop this blasted nap!!

My son is 15 months old and began transitioning to one nap at 13 months old. We started with 3.75/5.5 WTs with an uncapped nap. Every few days, he’d need a 2 nap day where his WT would be 3.75/4/3.5. We gradually increased his FWT to 4 hours which put his one nap days at 4/6 and two nap days at 4/4/3.5. We actually just got back from vacation on Monday, so I can’t say if this will hold, but he seems to be sticking to one nap days now; 4/6 WT with a 2-3 hour nap. Once I’m sure he’s fully on one nap, I’m going to start increasing his FWT and decreasing his LWT to get to an even 5/5.

My son is 15 months old and began transitioning to one nap at 13 months old. ...

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12/06/2018

My son is 15 months old and began transitioning to one nap at 13 months old. We started with 3.75/5.5 WTs with an uncapped nap. Every few days, he’d need a 2 nap day where his WT would be 3.75/4/3.5. We gradually increased his FWT to 4 hours which put his one nap days at 4/6 and two nap days at 4/4/3.5. We actually just got back from vacation on Monday, so I can’t say if this will hold, but he seems to be sticking to one nap days now; 4/6 WT with a 2-3 hour nap. Once I’m sure he’s fully on one nap, I’m going to start increasing his FWT and decreasing his LWT to get to an even 5/5.

Thanks for your response! I'm glad that seems to be working for your guy and fx it continues to stick!!

My guy hasn't shown consistent signs of needing 1 nap vs 2 until recently. There would be an ewu here and a nap refusal there starting a couple months ago, but they were far and few between so we held onto the 3.5/4/3.5 schedule that was working so well for him! It wasn't until Monday that his first nap obviously needed to be pushed out and I thought, like your guy, that he'd have the longer twt until he finally settled on a 4/6 schedule. I'm starting to think that for one reason or another this waa too much for him this week. Last night was perfect! He grumbled once around 4 but went quickly back out. I'm going to try keeping him on an 11 hour twt but sort of play the last 2 wt by ear until he settles on 1 nap. Can't wait for that first wt to extend to 4 hours!

because I always look for updates when I read something that sounds like my kiddo, here's my update from today:

I think he did just reconfigure his twt and when his first wt extended he needed his next wt to come in 15 minutes. Usually his schedule is 3.5/4/3.5. This week we moved out to 3.75/4/3.5 but he became ot with the extra 15 minutes each day he was awake.... crazy! Today I put him down at 3.75/3.5/ and probably 3.5 for his last wt. Moving that second wt in 15 minutes made me nervous because his schedule WAS working so well, but he went down in a matter of minutes for his second nap. Fx he wakes happy and rested. I guess ill try keeping his twt at 11 hours here out until he's at a 4 hour first wt.

because I always look for updates when I read something that sounds like my k...

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12/07/2018

because I always look for updates when I read something that sounds like my kiddo, here's my update from today:

I think he did just reconfigure his twt and when his first wt extended he needed his next wt to come in 15 minutes. Usually his schedule is 3.5/4/3.5. This week we moved out to 3.75/4/3.5 but he became ot with the extra 15 minutes each day he was awake.... crazy! Today I put him down at 3.75/3.5/ and probably 3.5 for his last wt. Moving that second wt in 15 minutes made me nervous because his schedule WAS working so well, but he went down in a matter of minutes for his second nap. Fx he wakes happy and rested. I guess ill try keeping his twt at 11 hours here out until he's at a 4 hour first wt.

Following! DD (dear daughter) is 13.5 months old and we are close to the transition but not quite there. We’re doing 4-4.25 FWT, 4-4.25 (some days 4.5) MWT and 3-4 LWT depending on the day. DD’s naps range from 20 minutes to 40. She usually does 11.5-12.5 TWT.

Just wanted to say thank you for continuing to post, I’ve been following from the beginning and I’m sure I’m not the only one!

Are you trying to do 2-1? If so, adding wt isn’t going to help. You’ll want to push to something like 4/6 or 5/5 or similar and then enforce 2 hours in the crib. As long as nap is over 1.5 hours, move on with the day. Don’t force a second nap. That’s going to be counterproductive. Keep in mind that EWU is common before and during 2-1, so be consistent with that OOC time. Count wt from OOC as well.

Are you trying to do 2-1? If so, adding wt isn’t going to help. You’ll wa...

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12/08/2018

Are you trying to do 2-1? If so, adding wt isn’t going to help. You’ll want to push to something like 4/6 or 5/5 or similar and then enforce 2 hours in the crib. As long as nap is over 1.5 hours, move on with the day. Don’t force a second nap. That’s going to be counterproductive. Keep in mind that EWU is common before and during 2-1, so be consistent with that OOC time. Count wt from OOC as well.

Yes! I would love to transition him finally to 1 nap. I feel like he's barely making it to 3.75 fwt though.... how can I extend that to 4 hours? Just keep pushing it out by a couple minutes every few day?? Also, with ods I always counted all his wt from ooc, but with yds I have noticed all along that when he does take a few minutes to fall asleep for naps that if we don't extend his last wt to accommodate it he crashes before bedtime like he's ot. We do, however, count his first wt from ooc first thing in the morning and if he wakes early we don't add that into his twt and it seems to be ok. Even last night.... he woke at 3:55 from last nap and we put him down for bed at 7:25, 3.5 hours later. He had taken 5 minutes to fall asleep for both naps and I considered deducting that time and putting him down at 7:15 but decided against it. By 7:10/7:15 he was crashing and was clearly ready for bed. He still took 15 minutes of babbling to fall asleep, though. Does that make any sense to you? Are some babies just like that? Do i need to wait him out or stretch him out gently???

Some babies are just like that. They need time to wind down. The other scenario is that you’re missing his sleepy window and he actually needs an earlier bt.

Take yds for example. In bed at 7, he’ll sleep from 7:03 until 7:30am. In bed at 7:15, and he’s up at 6:45 the next morning. OT (off topic) and a critical bedtime. So I make 7pm work for me regardless of naps.

To push wts, during 2-1 but also any other time, you just have to distract. Go outside if you can, do active play (tickle monster), snacks/feed him, introduce new or typically forbidden toys.

I found that stretching slowly worked for yds but that going full steam ahead worked for ODS. ODS was mostly immune to OT (off topic) and just crashed hard and sttn. Half the battle is knowing her tolerance.

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