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Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by effdamets

I think that's what we all expected... no?

Yeah. We all expected this, except the FO who had to think about it and worry if he didnt reject it. In other news, the earth rotates around the sun, but i think the FO needs to think about that as well...

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by El Barto

Sad to see granderson go but there are better options than him out there that can fit better into this lineup, and now we get a sandwich pick. As for Kuroda, I don't want to take the risk of him breaking down when we need him the most. Tanaka can take his place and as long as we get someone better than Hughes (that shouldn't be too hard to do) the rotation will look good. If we can get tanaka, Pineda works out, and get a relatively young back end starter our rotation will look a lot younger and better than this year. The offense too

Translation:
If we get better players, everyone pitches better, hits better, and stays healthy, we will be in contention

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by El Barto

Sad to see granderson go but there are better options than him out there that can fit better into this lineup, and now we get a sandwich pick. As for Kuroda, I don't want to take the risk of him breaking down when we need him the most. Tanaka can take his place and as long as we get someone better than Hughes (that shouldn't be too hard to do) the rotation will look good. If we can get tanaka, Pineda works out, and get a relatively young back end starter our rotation will look a lot younger and better than this year. The offense too

Who are the better options you're talking about? Do they require draft pick compensation to sign? Personally I'd rather they give up the opportunity cost of a sandwich pick and keep Granderson (assuming reasonable short term deal) then give up their first rounder (highest they've had in ages and hopefully for a long time) unless it's a massive upgrade.

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by False1

Who are the better options you're talking about? Do they require draft pick compensation to sign? Personally I'd rather they give up the opportunity cost of a sandwich pick and keep Granderson (assuming reasonable short term deal) then give up their first rounder (highest they've had in ages and hopefully for a long time) unless it's a massive upgrade.

If you're going to give up your first for anyone in this FA class I'd do it for McCann. A 29 year old (turns 30 in Feb) top 5 catcher won't hit the market in a LONG time. Its almost the equivalent to signing a 30 year old Posada (not quite the bat, but much better defense). Also the difference between the #18 pick and a sandwich pick while on the surface seems fairly significant it may have relatively no impact on the quality of player they get with the pick. I mean its not like its a top 5 pick where you know you're getting an elite level talent. Plus you're also assuming that the Yankees will take the right guy at #18 which given their recent history is not a bet I'd be willing to take.

That said the Yankees have so many needs this offseason and their minor league system is so bad that I wouldn't mind them spreading the wealth around on some guys that could bounce back this year and provide could value for the $ and possibly even net the team a compensation pick in the future. So guys like Johnny Peralta, Mike Morse, Corey Hart, Josh Johnson, and Scott Kazmir are all guys that figure to sign for likely no more than 2 year deals. Anyone one of them could easily bounce back and be a candidate for a QO when their new contract expires. Then there's also guys like Carlos Ruiz, Omar Infante, David Murphy, Bartolo Colon, Eric Chavez, and others that likely won't ever earn a qualifying offer in the future, but could provide very good production for the money spent on them.

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by False1

Who are the better options you're talking about? Do they require draft pick compensation to sign? Personally I'd rather they give up the opportunity cost of a sandwich pick and keep Granderson (assuming reasonable short term deal) then give up their first rounder (highest they've had in ages and hopefully for a long time) unless it's a massive upgrade.

I'd agree with that. I don't see a massive upgrade out there over there to Grandy, except if you are talking Ellsbury.

A dream scenario to me would be Cano, Tanaka, Garza, Granderson - but I don't think it will shake out that way. Sign a lesser piece for 3B and fake it again at C. They'll probably waste the #18 pick on someone like Drew though

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by Vazquez

I'd agree with that. I don't see a massive upgrade out there over there to Grandy, except if you are talking Ellsbury.

A dream scenario to me would be Cano, Tanaka, Garza, Granderson - but I don't think it will shake out that way. Sign a lesser piece for 3B and fake it again at C. They'll probably waste the #18 pick on someone like Drew though

Would Choo be an upgrade over Granderson? I don't know, but I think his game might be a better fit for what this lineup needs moving forward.

Re: 2013/14 New York Yankee Off-Season Thread

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

I am not crazy about Choo. Dont like his home/road splits and he also cant do anything against lefties.

Grandy's not much better against lefties either. But Choo's OBP dwarfs that of Granderson. With the way he works pitchers and his uncanny ability to get on base, plus a little bit of pop in his bat and some speed, I think he'd improve the top of this lineup significantly. As for hitting lhp, there's eight other guys in the batting order. I would hope there'd be somebody who can do the job.