Anyone into Hiphop should get that KRS book The Gospel Of Hiphop, says it all, you'll find it's a hell of a lot older than 40 years. I love the fact he states that it was already in motion for years waiting to become the whole ethos, which is Hiphop, basically a metaphorical statement of life it self, Hiphop is a conscious being itself, it needed to happen. Also explains why there is no recorded material of Kool Herc. Also dam good to hear Kool Herc is healing up after that bitch illness nearly topped him off.

Anyone into Hiphop should get that KRS book The Gospel Of Hiphop, says it all, you'll find it's a hell of a lot older than 40 years

definitely, my favorite KRS quote is from that one rant where he equates ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs to modern-day graffiti...dude is mad intelligent, and deserving of the title "best rapper alive". DOOM may be my personal fav, but there's no questioning KRS-One's supremacy.

definitely, my favorite KRS quote is from that one rant where he equates ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs to modern-day graffiti...dude is mad intelligent, and deserving of the title "best rapper alive". DOOM may be my personal fav, but there's no questioning KRS-One's supremacy.

Takes a long time to digest it, you've heard him, can you imagine how intense KRS writing about the most important thing to him is. Should be given out at school.

i would've paid TWO quarters to get into that shit...
although i wonder how awkward it must have been watching Herc go "rerefdjfadjfkadjfaadf" as he rewound the record every 8 bars lol, that probably broke the flow up a little bit.

i would've paid TWO quarters to get into that shit...although i wonder how awkward it must have been watching Herc go "rerefdjfadjfkadjfaadf" as he rewound the record every 8 bars lol, that probably broke the flow up a little bit.

Herc was in another room adjacent to the party and would have to open the door and peek in to see the people dancing. Scratching and all that jazz wasn't Herc's forte and/or contribution to the culture. As a recent Jamacian immigrant he was familiar with the dub and sound systems scenes of his native island and was really just injecting soul and R&B breaks into that equation. So that night Kool Herc was much more a sound selector than anything else. Younger cats would take the simple idea Herc brought to the table and started scratching and doing other flashy things to mix in showmanship over the next few years. With regards to the inventor of the scratch, that title belongs to none other than Grand Wizard Theodore.

Scratching and all that jazz wasn't Herc's forte and/or contribution to the culture.

makes sense; but doesn't the story go that he was playing the breaks of records over and over for like <5 mins. at a time on a single turntable? so isn't that part of rewinding the record unavoidable just based on his set-up? i know it wasn't scratching, but i'm pretty sure it was the only way for him to get back to that part of the track since this was pre-crossfader days...i guess he could've picked the needle up and dropped it back on the break, but either way the music is stopping for those few seconds. i think KRS even mentions this in that lecture posted at the top of this thread.

i guess he could've picked the needle up and dropped it back on the break, but either way the music is stopping for those few seconds. i think KRS even mentions this in that lecture posted at the top of this thread.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he was doing a very rough needle drop that wasn't too accurate.

Herc was def needle dropping if it was a long break, the selector rewind was just for the beginning of a track.

Needle dropping is fun, but I would never recommend it for production. It's one of those things that when you are fucking around with it, the weed haze got you all like "this is the most amazing shit ever!" But in reality it just sounds like a jumbled, sloppy mess.

i kinda like that jumbled mess, though. as long as you can get it to be mostly on-beat like in the Q-Tip vid, i don't see a problem with it at all. it makes for more interesting loops and unexpected change-ups in the beat that you can't really get any other way...

oh, but i think i was thinking of J Rocc when he makes beats live-- he might've been the one i heard doing it.

yeah, i'm not saying an entire album would work-- but it's hard to deny that the loops Tip was coming up with just on the spot were dope as shit...he even says himself that they should've done the record like that. i think it would work if done correctly...just fuck around on a turntable while tracking it into audacity or a sampler or something, then go back in and trim it up nice. then bam! there's a beat.

btw do i get an award or something for having the most recent posts in every category lol?the front page is littered with jf thumbnails...

it could also work the way that i tried it back when i was still pretty new to producing, where i would just drop the needle in random spots of the record in a rhythmic way and then trim it up to a 4-bar "loop" of indiscriminate sounds...

it actually turned out pretty dope, cause you would just hear "ah ooh uh uh eh ohh uhh eh ah uh eh ooh ehh ah oh uh eh" looping in a weirdly cool pattern; and there's no other way to make that kinda sound besides that technique. but i would like to try doing it this other way, and make something more front and center rather than just a background sample filling up the empty space in a track.