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No wonder...

Originally Posted by ‘Skyfall’ Director Says He Was Inspired By ‘The Dark Knight’

Mendes’ decision to jump on board was a risky one, since he rightly points out that the reception to Bond’s last adventure was lukewarm at best. But those who felt that the first Skyfall trailer revealing the diabolical Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem) seemed more ‘Nolan-esque’ than ‘Bond-ish’ may have been right on the money.

The strength of story, drama and compelling turmoil that director Christopher Nolan brought into the Batman mythos “directly inspired” Mendes in his view of the Bond series. Not just as a sign that tired properties can still have potential, but what can be attempted when studio dollars are on the line.

As Mendes sees it, the precedent has been set for directors like himself to bring more artistic flourishes to mainstream projects. What that means for Skyfall isn’t clear, but does sound promising:

“In terms of what [Nolan] achieved, specifically ‘The Dark Knight,’ the second movie, what it achieved, which is something exceptional. It was a game changer for everybody…”

“We’re now in an industry where movies are very small or very big and there’s almost nothing in the middle [...] it would be a tragedy if all the serious movies were very small and all the popcorn movies were very big and have nothing to say. And what Nolan proved was that you can make a huge movie that is thrilling and entertaining and has a lot to say about the world we live in, even if, in the case with ‘The Dark Knight,’ it’s not even set in our world. It felt like a movie that was about our world post-9/11, and played on our fears, and discussed our fears and why they existed and I thought that was incredibly brave and interesting. That did help give me the confidence to take this movie in directions that, without ‘The Dark Knight,’ might not have been possible. Because also, people go, ‘Wow, that’s pretty dark,’ but then you can point to ‘Dark Knight’ and go ‘Look at that – that’s a darker movie, and it took in a gazillion dollars!’ That’s very helpful. There’s also that thing – it’s clearly possible to make a dark movie that people want to see.”

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Ok, lets take a look at what is going on then.
First there is the obvious, the bad guy in bond is a fusion between bane and the joker. He is similar to bane in that he is a highly skilled fighter who sets up innecessarily complicated plans which would never work outside a movie.

Then again, he has more of the joker than of bane. Deformed face? Check, creepy laugh? Yes, but fails miserably in front of the joker. Gets captured and released to the sound of flashy unnecessary explosions which show the hero is somewhat bad at being a ninja/spy? Check. Gets released to the sound of explosions? Check.

Now, take a look at the following plot point: Character has to deal with his age and the result of years of fighting along with doing everything possible to not have good shape. Is that batman (who stayed indoors for 8 years or so before the movie) or bond (who spent months drinking himself to sleep after being shot)?

Which of them has an unlikely guy to give them fancy tech stuff? As far as I recall one of them had morgan freeman and the other had some annoying hipster guy that did not seem to understand what programing was or thought program code looked like randomly moving lines. Heck, the least qualified person in the room was the one who figured out that something was off with the password they needed being thrown into the program. I guess we could say neither movie got programing as the batman one had witchcraft which simultanuesly hacked into every database and backup to delete a persons information(either that, or I am backwards enough on the topic that I simply missed programing looking like randomly moving lines nowadays).

To sum it up: Bad guy in bond is the joker with a dash of bane. Bond has to deal with the same age and accumulated damage stuff. Both have gadgets people. Neither gets programing. Both have an alfred person.

A tad unrelated but the movie also copied every home alone movie ever.

^About the Skyfall subject, aside from the stolen plot points from the Batman trilogy and lack of originality there really isn't much else you could take away from this film that changes people's outlook on this movie from to a positive to negative perspective.

^About the Skyfall subject, aside from the stolen plot points from the Batman trilogy and lack of originality there really isn't much else you could take away from this film that changes people's outlook on this movie from to a positive to negative perspective.

How about the movie stealing plot devices from 20 year old macaulay culkin movies (home alone)?

Anyways, I don't actually think the movie was bad, if anything I did enjoy it. I just couldn't help but notice the overwhelming amount of "inspiration" from the dark knight.

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Originally Posted by baboysai

I prefer to *not hate* twilight. I mean, I haven't watched any of it so i don't really care- no time of mine was lost, and no brain cells were fried.

Had to watch it with my cousins daughters and yeah BS is the best you could decribe it. Doubt any of the books are any better from reading some thorough reviews. And now I even see men read 50 shades of ... like only for the hype. There were always good erotic and SM novels just saying.

This will be the last movie won't it? Let's wait and let it rest until the next idocy comes around.

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Haven't seen "Skyfall" yet, but I was told it's the best bond film in the last 10 years. Personally for me, the last bond film I went to the theaters to see was "Goldeneye" and for me, that was a classic. May have to see "Skyfall" to see if it lives up to the hype.

I liked the "Dark Knight", but it's overhyped and just made a lot of money. I get the business of it all.

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Originally Posted by Saint Markus

Haven't seen "Skyfall" yet, but I was told it's the best bond film in the last 10 years. Personally for me, the last bond film I went to the theaters to see was "Goldeneye" and for me, that was a classic. May have to see "Skyfall" to see if it lives up to the hype.

I liked the "Dark Knight", but it's overhyped and just made a lot of money. I get the business of it all.

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Better than putting your cinema money into something like Twilight. :P Every movie is made to make money, so no problem with promoting something great, when you get the chance to broaden the viewer base.