Samsung plots revenge on Apple, will sue if new iPhone has LTE

Payback time — literally. You know how Apple sued Samsung for mercilessly copying the iPhone in numerous devices and won the lawsuit by taking $1.05 billion from Samsung’s pockets? Everybody knew the war was far from over and now we have proof. Samsung has confirmed that it plans to sue Apple if the upcoming sixth-generation iPhone has 4G LTE functionality built in.

Samsung owns approximately 10 percent of patents related to long-term evolution, or LTE, technology. Apple already released the third-generation iPad earlier this year with LTE, but Samsung reportedly decided to hold off and wait for the more popular iPhone for a satisfying sucker punch to the mouth.

Since it’s so incredibly unlikely that Apple would not release an LTE iPhone this year, a lawsuit is in fact incredibly likely. Samsung may just have the patent power to win too. Ah, revenge. Apple would have to figure out a way around the lawsuit. Luckily, Apple has a history of knowing how to get around things, but it’s very possible that this time it could face defeat.

Samsung isn’t the leader when it comes to owning LTE patents. In fact, Nokia has almost double with 18.9 percent of patents and Qualcomm is also ahead with 12.5 percent. Those companies, however, aren’t as prominent as Samsung is in the mobile space and on top of that, they didn’t just lose over a billion dollars to the company Samsung is now trying to sue.

That’s what happens when your late to the 4G/LTE party. This technology has been out and on android device since my first Android smartphone the Htc Evo 4g. Now apple wants an Lte iphone device and they think they just going to put it on the market with repercusión. Apple is about to land in a 50 foot ditch filled with some Korean shit that they will drown in totally.

Anonymous

You obviously didn’t get what Adrian meant by FRAND. Try googling it sometime so YOU know what OTHER people are talking about, moron. Also, I didn’t know it was possible to “drown” in “shit”. You drown when surrounded by liquid, and suffocate when surrounded by a solid such as dirt, a plastic bag, or in this case, “shit”. Good job on that one.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368032580 James E. Burkett

…Yeah, they aren’t FRAND patents. Not all LTE patents are standard essential. While you’re calling people Moron, you might want to check yourself, iFan. Apple is about to be in a whole lot of trouble. They are about to find out what happens to patent trolls who run around the world suing people over rectangles, gestures and icons. HTC is on the verge of winning a patent battle with Apple over (What?) LTE patents that aren’t standard essential, Motorola is about to shut down nearly the entire lineup of Apple products over non-standard patents, and here comes Sammy to show them one more time what happens to tyrants. Apple is a scumbag of a company and too many people are gaining too much ground on them for them to not realize, they might win a few battles but they are about to Massively lose this war.

Anonymous

1. If you could read/comprehend, you’d know that I never actually stated they were FRAND patents. I’d love to see what source(s) you can conjure up that says they aren’t FRAND patents though, because as far as I know, everyone else has no clue if they are or not. 2. I’m not an “iFan”, but it’s clear as day that you’re HEAVILY biased for Android. I like Android. I have a rooted Galaxy Nexus running the CM9, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to run around screaming my head off like an idiot about how “Android rules all” or other somesuch BS. 3. “HTC is on the verge of winning a patent battle with Apple over LTE patents that aren’t standard essential, Motorola is about to shut down nearly the entire lineup of Apple products over non-standard patents, and here comes Sammy to show them one more time what happens to tyrants” If that isn’t the most sensationalist and heavily biased comment I’ve ever read, I don’t know what is. “Tyrants”? Really? Further, I’d like to see your proof of any of this. Also, great to see you can copy/paste like a trolling, spamming fool. Good day.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368032580 James E. Burkett

Well you might think I was heavily biased for Android, but I’m really not. I’m heavily biased against Apple for running around the globe suing people for things it did not invent. They DO act like tyrants, trying to force their will on everyone by trying to stamp out competition in the courtroom instead of putting their products out and competing. Sorry sir but Apple didn’t invent icons or rectangles or multitouch- They sue over this BS on the regular though. I won’t have to prove anything to you, just watch the headlines. Apple keeps suing everyone, and there is now practically a quiet alliance between nearly every Android (And Windows phone) handset maker to stomp them into the ground. They will find the One thing to put Apple over a barrel and shut their ridiculous lawsuits down… If they haven’t already. Apple may be the biggest bully on the playground (more money) but they are starting to have to fight on too many fronts, and they are losing in many instances except here in the USA where you can get a jury stupid enough to not understand what prior art is. Put enough kids against the bully and eventually the bully will go down.

Now, everyone keeps saying FRAND this and FRAND that. If Samsung has already found clear infringement of their LTE patents (that are not standard essential) in the LTE iPad, why would they just not sue Then? They were just waiting for the iPhone to come out, so they can go for the throat. They are going to win, whether you or anyone else wants them to or not…. They were just waiting for the right time to strike… And sir, that time is now.

I don’t go around the web screaming about Android ruling. I go around the web talking about the cowardly ways that Apple sues everyone because they are scared to death of competition, and they are, and if you look carefully at the iPhone 5, you can see why. The iPhone 5 looks nearly identical to the iPhone 4S. They cannot innovate anymore- The only way they can keep their market position is to sue everyone for anything they can possibly think of, trying to ban their products- Even rectangles and icons.

Anonymous

“They DO act like tyrants, trying to force their will on everyone by trying to stamp out competition in the courtroom” And yet there are more Android phones now than there were even 6 months ago. Apple’s litigation, though annoying, isn’t really doing squat. A temporary injunction here and there, sprinkled with a few minor wins (the only major one being against Samsung recently). Don’t be so narrow minded/short sighted. “The iPhone 5 looks nearly identical to the iPhone 4S.” … if you’re blind, sure. Taller by .37 inches (quite noticeable), slightly thinner (not quite as noticeable), aluminum backing (very noticeable), not to mention on the black version, the metal sides and back is different than on the pervious. Sure it’s not the dynamic changes we’re used to on Android phones, but that’s exactly what Apple is going for. Minimalist design with few changes because they think they’ve got it perfect. Whether that’s true or not is a subjective decision, aka opinion.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368032580 James E. Burkett

My point was, that instead of trying to go head to head with the competition, they are just trying to sue them out of business over things they didn’t even invent in the first place. I could see if they bought some valid patents and were suing over them because they owned them (Who in their right mind besides Apple might try to patent a black flat rectangle with rounded corners??) but they just come up with ANYTHING to try to patent and sue competition over. Yes there are plenty of Android phones but who are they suing? Their Biggest Competitors.

From the face, which is what Apple likes to sue over (Look at the phone from the front) it does look nearly identical to the iPhone 4, 4S. As a matter of fact if someone showed me a iPhone 5 and told me it was a 4S, I wouldn’t doubt them for a second… They look like twins from the front with the exception of a small bump in screen size, and height.

Gregory C Newman

Samsung should hold off this action and wait and see what wil happen as Result of Google Android OS creator is negotiating with Apple. They will probably make a deal where Android will be able to use Apple patents by paying license fees there fore making it so Android can continue to be on smart phones. since Apple has wind of this they may already have a work around and will make Samsung look dumb in court. Samsung please do a deal because you have to show the court you are trying to solve things out of court rather than being revengeful

http://twitter.com/Geek_News Geek_News

It all depends, are these patents covered under FRAND terms or not. It doesn’t sound like it. Second if Apple’s initial offers for licensing fees are any indication of what they want then they aren’t going to come cheap and I’m sure almost every other company won’t want to be higher than avg fees.

Nick V

Google’s decision to sue Apple through Motorola prompted Tim Cooke to pick up the phone. Apparently, whatever the patents Google was suing over made a huge deal to Apple, if Apple is scared enough to want to talk.

Samsung’s issues are different than just Android and Apple. Samsung, if these aren’t FRAND patents, have a way better chance at destroying the iPhone with LTE.

http://twitter.com/dime09 Dime09

Samsung should sue the living daylights out of them!!!

Anonymous

Oh yeah now it’s about Samsung having revenge in there heart. People NEED TO GROW UP apple sued over 2yr old devices they waited for so long to sue because Samsung has better product especially smartphones. Samsung has pushed innovative products for years now while apple has remained stale and sadly boring. Samsung HAS A RIGHT TO SUE for it’s patents just as much as Apple does what’s going to be good for the goose should be great for the gander. Google NEEDS TO BUD OUT Samsung got this a battle is a battle and a war is a war. Samsung owns 10 % of the LTE patents and they will excerise that lawsuit against Apple if the produce that crappy Lte iphone. What it is is what it is. Step to the left Google. Samsung will piss on Apple and it’s shitty iphone……

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368032580 James E. Burkett

…Yeah, they aren’t FRAND patents. Not all LTE patents are standard essential. Apple is about to be in a whole lot of trouble. They are about to find out what happens to patent trolls who run around the world suing people over rectangles, gestures and icons. HTC is on the verge of winning a patent battle with Apple over (What?) LTE patents that aren’t standard essential, Motorola is about to shut down nearly the entire lineup of Apple products over non-standard patents, and here comes Sammy to show them one more time what happens to tyrants. Apple is a scumbag of a company and too many people are gaining too much ground on them for them to not realize, they might win a few battles but they are about to Massively lose this war.