..so I decided I don't care for humans much, as long as they can't tolerate each others differences they pretty much lack FAITH and are not true believers at all, just fascist conservatives, you know, the HATEFUL types, afraid of sin, afraid of death, afraid of the devil, how THE HELL could they ever put their faith in god?..

But what if, like myself and many others, one is sure from the evidence that all this God stuff is a lie ? Just a very human power game ?

I'll tell you what does happen at the practical level. We just keep ourselves to our selves and avoid (except on forum discussions like this one ) talking about it in public.

If our society was a group of individuals that have started to cooperate to advance the goals of that group, by delegating responsibilities, yes, I agree, that would be fair, but today we have two societies at the same time in one world. one of them is the group of 'have-nots', ordinary people, like you and me, no matter how diverse, no matter what etchnicity or religion or genetic make-up, WE all have to deal every day with a smaller group of 'haves' that prey on our rights and assets, profiting much from whatever divides us, like religious disputes.
here's an example of political correctness gone mad: Kevin Shipp, he clearly states that 9/11 was NOT a terrorist attack and calls for reform of securicy agencies, because our outdated political structure has turned to CRIME, leaving us with no privacy and violating human rights, since 1947

note: don't trust this pr-clown Kevin Shipp, just because he is 'easy to like', having faith and confronting his former collegues and their elitist clique. many like him will follow once they find the courage in their hearts.. (otherwise we're going to have to force those rats out of our society by entirely hacking the Utah Data Center that stores all contacts made by e-mail, sms and telephone forever..)

It's not "Mother's Day", it's now called "You Day", by the Waitrose chain. Because it doesn't want to exclude. What about "Father's Day" then"? Will it be a "You Day" as well?
--------------------------------------------Waitrose creates gender-neutral 'Happy You Day' Mother's Day card
The supermarket said the gender-neutral cards would help make Mother's Day more inclusive

Waitrose has started selling Mother's Day cards that do not use the word "mother" to make the annual celebration more inclusive.

The supermarket said their cards, some of which simply state "Happy You Day", would mean that transgender people who do not consider themselves mothers could still take part.

The posh retailer said the plan meant “broadening out who the cards can go to, whether it’s grandmas or transgender mums”. It will continue selling traditional Mother's Day cards alongside the new range.

Other companies have also branched out to update greetings cards for the 21st century .

The Scribbler chain sells cards which say "Two mums are better than one" for same-sex couples and another for transgender parents with the message "Dad, thanks for being the most amazing mum".

It's not "Mother's Day", it's now called "You Day", by the Waitrose chain. Because it doesn't want to exclude. What about "Father's Day" then"? Will it be a "You Day" as well?
--------------------------------------------Waitrose creates gender-neutral 'Happy You Day' Mother's Day card
The supermarket said the gender-neutral cards would help make Mother's Day more inclusive

Waitrose has started selling Mother's Day cards that do not use the word "mother" to make the annual celebration more inclusive.

The supermarket said their cards, some of which simply state "Happy You Day", would mean that transgender people who do not consider themselves mothers could still take part.

The posh retailer said the plan meant “broadening out who the cards can go to, whether it’s grandmas or transgender mums”. It will continue selling traditional Mother's Day cards alongside the new range.

Other companies have also branched out to update greetings cards for the 21st century .

The Scribbler chain sells cards which say "Two mums are better than one" for same-sex couples and another for transgender parents with the message "Dad, thanks for being the most amazing mum".

This is all rather grand. Businesses want to please their customers, and not all families fit the stereotype.

So why is this news? It's because the tabloid Daily Mirror can use it to suggest that family life is falling apart, kids today don't know their Mum from their Dad, what happened to dads going out to work and mums staying at home with the kids? It was good enough in my day! and so on.

It doesn't trouble me and I assume that Waitrose will have done customer research to ensure that the idea pleases more customers than it displeases.

If people don't want them, market forces will remove them from the shelves for good or ill. If people do want them, they will stay.

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Yeah, the companies selling them will already have an idea about how successful they'll be. My point was that the Mirror's report on them was a barrel-scrapingly poor excuse for a news story, with an emphasis on the implied weirdness of there being people around who cared for children as their mother would, but weren't their mothers! Or even women! Or were not born women! It's enough to give you the vapours.

But if the father is now a mother they can still use a mothers day card, I am a little confused, cause happy you day is just well, daft, that means its a happy everybody day, even if you are not a mum or dad.
It's not a special day then, sod it, you should just buy them a pressie and skip the card

Waitrose has started selling Mother's Day cards that do not use the word "mother" to make the annual celebration more inclusive.

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Mothers' Day isn't supposed to be inclusive - the whole point is that it cruelly excludes that percentage of humanity who aren't mothers (without excluding adoptive mothers and stepmothers). Regardless of what I or anyone else thinks about that, that is what it is.

If they do the same for Fathers' Day that at least will show some consistency. At any rate it may sell more cards, which I suspect is the brave, compassionate and progressive motive behind this.

I know people raised by single fathers who always make a point of getting them something for Mothers Day as well, to acknowledge that they've done the work of two parents. Having a more generic card to allow someone in that position to give a small token of appreciation is no bad thing, in my view, certainly not "PC gone mad".

I remember about 30 years ago reading about 'Happy Grandma Day' and 'Happy Grandad Day' cards being offered for sale which didn't go down too well with the population .. as some wit put it, "Yeah .. why don't we just call them 'Happy Hallmark Cards Day' if we're all being honest ?".