Zeke Emanuel: If you want to pay more to keep your doctor, “you can do that. It’s a matter of choice.”

posted at 6:01 pm on December 8, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Wallace: President Obama famously promised, ‘if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.’ Doesn’t that turn out to be just as false, just as misleading, as his promise about ‘if you like your plan, you can keep your plan’? Isn’t a fact, sir, that a number, most in fact, of the ObamaCare health plans that are being offered on the exchanges exclude a number of doctors and hospitals to lower costs?

Emanuel: The president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor in the country you want… But look, if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that. It’s a matter of choice. … The issue isn’t the selective networks… People are going to have a choice of whether they want to pay a certain amount for a selective network, or pay more for a broader network. They get that choice.

Yes, which isn’t much comfort if you are now precluded from seeing your same doctor unless you start paying more more, is it? How odd that they mysteriously neglected to mention that little caveat when they were making grandiose promises while simultaneously designing a system that would try to prevent premiums from skyrocketing by deliberately, systematically, and drastically limiting provider networks and reducing consumer choice, no?

Why would Obamavoters care about “keeping” their doctor anyway? Their “doctor” is whoever is on staff in the emergency room when they need some antibiotics for a head cold.

Jeddite on December 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Yes, there are plenty of those. But there are also plenty of white guilt ridden libtards who had their own insurance, and are now losing it by the thousands. Their panties are in such a wad, they’re turning blue in the face. This is gonna be great fun.

Kind of like the mindset of the Orwellian warmist loons who have been saying for years that global warming climate change would make “snow a thing of the past” (David Viner) and winters would become “unbearably mild,” but now that we have been having a long string of severe winters the Chicken Little double talkers easily revise it to a ultra-gullible public and say that global warming is causing severe cold, like we are seeing across America right now. Insane.

well, that is a real loosening up for a left wing wacko. Big breakthru. First, leftist don’t like rich (i.e. middle class) people paying for something that the lumpen proletariat doesn’t get…and that implies that a leftist would allow a private insurance market not under the thumb of barry…et al.

so momentary celebration…but the left will flip on that if they get their way…they won’t give up that control that easily. Leftist Zeke is just temporizing

In the past two or three weeks, I’ve seen Ezekiel Emanuel on Megyn Kelly’s show twice, on Morning Joe, on with Stuart Varney and now on Fox News Sunday. The regime obviously feels that he is their best spokesliar. I just hope they keep sending him out there, he is without a doubt the creepiest MoFo in America.

Of course I can keep my doctor.
He/she and I will negotiate a price, just as we have done since intermediaries like government and insurance got in the way- starting with HMOs in the 80’s and followed by preventive care, neither of which I was interested in covering in a premium.

And how can he say the website gives you choice, and it’s a “marketplace”? All the plans offer the exactly the same thing, as mandated by Dear Leader!! What choice do you have–does Anthem maybe give you a tote bag with their logo on it?

In the past two or three weeks, I’ve seen Ezekiel Emanuel on Megyn Kelly’s show twice, on Morning Joe, on with Stuart Varney and now on Fox News Sunday. The regime obviously feels that he is their best spokesliar. I just hope they keep sending him out there, he is without a doubt the creepiest MoFo in America.

Naturally Curly on December 8, 2013 at 7:17 PM

And not one Flukeing member of the “Free Press” has had the nuts to ask him about what happens to people over 55 in his Complete Lives Program.

The true goal of single-payer is to create a minimum standard of care for the masses, and a premium level of care for those who can afford to supplement it.

It’s why when people say single-payer is the way to go, and the Medicare is a shining example of the liberal health care agenda, I always ask, “Then why re there Medicare Advantage plans?” Zeke’s talking about “Healthcare Advantage” for the rich. Occupiers should be grabbing their pitchforks.

One wonders why people are not out marching in protest?
Flipping out a negative comment on Hot Air about ObamaCare or a 144 character Tweet is not going to change anything.

albill on December 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM

If you’re going to organize a protest and want people to attend, feel free to post the information. I’m sure the moderators won’t mind.

As to why it isn’t occurring as much in general, most people on the right don’t like to protest in the streets. That’s not to disparage the ones that do, but there are many other ways to express one’s opinion that are at least as effective.

I have never ever been moved to change my opinion on any matter because a bunch of angry people are marching in the streets and shouting and chanting – quite the contrary, it usually makes me think “hmmm, have I made adequate preparations in case this thing gets out of hand?

Having said all of that, there are certainly issues where making a bit of noise makes sense, such as ones where many people can otherwise go about their day to day life forgetting it even happens, like abortion. But I don’t think there’s a danger anyone’s going to forget that their healthcare premiums just tripled.

Actually most of the folks who voted for Obama are fine with Obamacare.also most of the folks who are complaining happen to be people who were against Obamacare in the first place. And since the man won the popular vote in 12, I doubt he cares what the naysayers think about the law.

Liar, creepy liar. Part of me wants Zeke Emanuel to keep carrying Barry’s water, because he is so slimy and repulsive that he helps erode any remaining support of this disaster (what little is left). I turn the channel when I see him. He’s reptilian.

The Fine Print President…I might need a doctor from trying to wrap my brain around how it’s possible that, “pay more” to keep your doctor, is part of the, ‘let’s fundamentally transform the healthcare system in this country so people can have quality, *affordable* healthcare’, equation.

Well, some are more anti-human than others, but underlying much of the green movement is an arguably quasi-religious distaste for ourselves. Anyway, you give me the excuse to run some quotes from the loons:
“Isn’t the only hope for this planet the total collapse of industrial civilisation? Is it not our responsibility to ensure that this collapse happens?” -Maurice Strong, ex UNEP Director
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States.” -John Holdren (1973), Obama’s Science Czar
“It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution.” -John Holdren
“The planet is about to break out with fever, indeed it may already have, and we [human beings] are the disease. We should be at war with ourselves and our lifestyles.” -Thomas Lovejoy, Smithsonian Institution
“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness returning throughout the world.” -David Foreman, Earth First
“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer.” -Paul Ehrlich, Standford University Ecoactivist
“An ecocatastrophe (climate change) is taking place on earth.. prohibition, enforcement and oppression are the only solution. Those most responsible..will be sent to the mountains for re-education in eco-gulags. The sole glimmer of hope lies in a centralised government and the tireless control of citizens.” -Pentti Linkola, Ecologist
“It [climate change efforts] is a campaign not for abundance but for austerity. It is a campaign not for more freedom but for less. Strangest of all, it is a campaign not just against other people, but against ourselves.” -George Monbiot, UK Ecojournalist

This guy is probably going to be appointed as head of the Death Panels.

Dhuka on December 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM

It would make sense. He’s the leading proponent of the idea behind the death panels. The idea in a nutshell: most medical spending is on old people, and even if you heal a given ailment, they’ll die of something else soon, so, to save money, just don’t treat them and let them die; establish death panels as a mechanism for this – but call it something boring, like “Independent Payment Advisory Board.”

This guy is probably going to be appointed as head of the Death Panels.

Dhuka on December 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM

It would make sense. He’s the leading proponent of the idea behind the death panels. The idea in a nutshell: most medical spending is on old people, and even if you heal a given ailment, they’ll die of something else soon, so, to save money, just don’t treat them and let them die; establish death panels as a mechanism for this – but call it something boring, like “Independent Payment Advisory Board.”

He’s the Josef Mengele of public health.

86 on December 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

And he has no intention of subjecting himself to these common laws. He is way too important to the cause and to guide the country. Au Contraire. He expects society to expend an infinite amount of resources on his health care in order that he may share his unique insight.

Actually most of the folks who voted for Obama are fine with Obamacare.also most of the folks who are complaining happen to be people who were against Obamacare in the first place. And since the man won the popular vote in 12, I doubt he cares what the naysayers think about the law.

loveofcountry on December 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM

He will when your party get deservedly obliterated again at the next midterms for lying to the American people.

He implies that we are suppose to be happy & grateful that in our free country Obama has not taken away our right to have the doctor of our choice if we have enough money (plenty of it) to afford him. See, we have full choice! – if we got the big bucks. Whoopee! That deserves our one handed applause.

How odd that they mysteriously neglected to mention that little caveat when they were making grandiose promises while simultaneously designing a system that would try to prevent premiums from skyrocketing by deliberately, systematically, and drastically limiting provider networks and reducing consumer choice, no?

It’s perfectly understandable. Obama and the Hollywood/Political/Business elite’s can’t have the peons using their facilities, that would be icky. To ensure only the one’s who are in Obama’s accepted upper class have access to Mayo, Chicago General, or MD Anderson, you have to price those facilities out of reach to ensure the riff raff will keep to their own lower class, I mean, affordable medical facilities. Or just die. That way, Obama won’t have to resort to rounding up the masses for deportation, I mean vacation, to the “summer” camps for “re-education”.

That way, Obama won’t have to resort to rounding up the masses for deportation, I mean vacation, to the “summer” camps for “re-education”.

TulsAmerican on December 9, 2013 at 1:14 AM

You joke but given the left’s obsession with population control, “useless eaters,” etc, I would not be surprised if people dying from having their health care stripped from them is an actual part of the plan. Not to mention that the elderly are far more likely to vote Republican than the young.

Over at “The Corner” commenter Hawkeye52 wrote the following “Obamacare Rhapsody” in response to a Mark Steyn thread:

Hawkeye52
•12 hours ago
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Obamacare Rhapsody

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
So much for the landslide,
I escaped from reality.

Close up your eyes,
Listen to the lies by me,
I’m just a poor boy, I want your sympathy,
Because I’m easy come, easy go,
Little high, very low,
Any way the wind blows doesn’t really matter to me, to me.

My Plan, just killed the buzz
It’s not going on ahead
and now the website all but dead,

It died before it all begun,
But now I’ve gone and thrown it all away.

Oh no, ooh,
I didn’t mean what I said,
If you really liked your health care plan
Its gone, its gone, because control is what I’m after.

Too late, your time has come,
Sent shivers down your spine,
decisions are all mine.
Goodbye, insurance, It’s got to go,
Installin’ single-payer, and that’s the truth.

I see a little defender of the plan
Sebelius, Sebelius, will you do the Fandango?
Hannity and Fox News,
Giving me the blues .
Oh (Chrissy Matthews) Chrissy Matthews.
(Chrissy Matthews) Chrissy Matthews,
Chrissy Matthews good to go
Sympatico.

It’s just a poor plan but will you
still love me?

He’s just product of PC family,
Spare him the grief you racist monstrosity.

Easy come, easy go, will you get the plan?
Rush Limbaugh ! No, we will not get the plan.

(Get the Plan!) Rush Limbaugh! We will not get the plan.
(Get the plan!) Rush Limbaugh! We will not get the plan.
(Get the plan!)) Will not Get the plan!).
(Get the plan!)) Will not Get the plan!).

(Never, never, never Get the plan!) Ah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh, 2 Mommies or 2 Daddies Please, Get the plan!.
Sarah Palin is the devil and she’s out for me, for me, for me.

Did you think you can you keep your family doc?
Don’t you know my speech was a crock?

Ha ha baby, I did this to you, baby,
You cannot get out, you cannot get right outta it.

It’s perfectly understandable. Obama and the Hollywood/Political/Business elite’s can’t have the peons using their facilities, that would be icky.
TulsAmerican on December 9, 2013 at 1:14 AM

This is what I have been saying since the evil prevaricator currently in the White House appeared on the national scene.
Nor do they want us on ‘their’ airplanes, in ‘their’ restaurants, or in ‘their’ favorite shops.
Obamacare accomplishes so much of the liberal elitist dream. Not only are we, the dirty masses, forced into substandard healthcare which will shorten our lives considerably, while we are waiting to die (according to the plan), we cannot afford travel or entertainment because our ‘health care’ premiums are more expensive than our housing costs and we no longer have any money to spend on anything other than pure survival.

Mrs. Sebelius created a bunch of Metal level insurance policies right out of the 1980’s. These – bronze, gold, platinum, etc. are the most stagnant restrictive ideas on insurance, the kind states that have already worked on insurance reform have not seen in years.You know on car insurance you can add this and that and see the cost, each time you express your “choice” it tallies the total.

What if I want a policy with my EXPENSIVE doctor, with the cheap mental health and the cheap maternity care since I don’t need those things, and I want my policy to have the EXPENSIVE cancer treatments, but only the cheap sex change operations, since I won’t be doing that. What is with this one size fits all? The inflexibility is astounding. Further, I should be able to see how the choices affect the dollar cost, especially how each of these Obamacare mandates affect the cost. It is a consumer right in many states to see what the car insurance covers and an itemized tally how much it costs. Surely health insurance is more important and should not be exempt.I want Platinum cancer care, and bronze mental health with a really high deductible. That ought to be do able. (And I still don’t want to pay for pediatric dental, I already paid thousands for kids teeth, can’t I get a WAIVER?)

I think we must be back in Kansas, in the 1980’s or maybe even the 1970’s with The Secretary in charge. Consumers want CHOICE, they don’t want to pay for things they don’t want. This insurance is a giant step backward compared to the status quo in many states. This is not the insurance that has been working in blue states. It is the camel built by the committee.