Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .

Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .itslove

We have one of the best home records in the League and most of them have been decent viewing. We have scored more home goals than almost every other team and we all know there is no money about. We've forked out £100,000+ for a young striker with probably another one to come in. You need a reality check, my friend

Just what do you expect FFS.
We have one of the best home records in the League and most of them have been decent viewing. We have scored more home goals than almost every other team and we all know there is no money about. We've forked out £100,000+ for a young striker with probably another one to come in. You need a reality check, my friendpug ugly

itslove wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .

'Power and Cooper will have to go'

So who's going to replace them then? Which wealthy benefactor is in the wings waiting to step in? Have you forgotten that not so long ago administration was just around the corner? Did you miss the fact that Power has funded the signing of a new striker?

Don't bother to answer these questions, you're clearly in a world of your own.

[quote][p][bold]itslove[/bold] wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .[/p][/quote]'Power and Cooper will have to go'
So who's going to replace them then? Which wealthy benefactor is in the wings waiting to step in? Have you forgotten that not so long ago administration was just around the corner? Did you miss the fact that Power has funded the signing of a new striker?
Don't bother to answer these questions, you're clearly in a world of your own.Swindonian63

We have one of the best home records in the League and most of them have been decent viewing. We have scored more home goals than almost every other team and we all know there is no money about. We've forked out £100,000+ for a young striker with probably another one to come in. You need a reality check, my friend

People dont pay good money for a reality check...
People pay good money to see and hope there team wins...
Thats why there is so many plastic p/ship fans

[quote][p][bold]pug ugly[/bold] wrote:
Just what do you expect FFS.
We have one of the best home records in the League and most of them have been decent viewing. We have scored more home goals than almost every other team and we all know there is no money about. We've forked out £100,000+ for a young striker with probably another one to come in. You need a reality check, my friend[/p][/quote]People dont pay good money for a reality check...
People pay good money to see and hope there team wins...
Thats why there is so many plastic p/ship fansdazzastfc

Not quite sure why we've signed a left back when Jay and Nathan B can both play there - answers on a postcard as to what position we needed to strengthen!

Come on boys - we need a response today and 3 points is a must

As an aside, just watching Bournemouth against Liverpool before walking down to the ground, that Ritchie bloke's alright isn't he?!?

Not quite sure why we've signed a left back when Jay and Nathan B can both play there - answers on a postcard as to what position we needed to strengthen!
Come on boys - we need a response today and 3 points is a must
As an aside, just watching Bournemouth against Liverpool before walking down to the ground, that Ritchie bloke's alright isn't he?!?Scouse Red

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?Swindonian63

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr

[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymrsmirg kcab

itslove wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .

A bet you feel a plonker now !

[quote][p][bold]itslove[/bold] wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .[/p][/quote]A bet you feel a plonker now !Bassett Hound

Great end to this relegation dog fight and an excellent start for Michael Smith. Are we seeing the beginnings of a strike partnership?

Even more inspired to take the trip down the M6 on Tuesday but they look in awesome form. Any result there would be a bonus.

Great end to this relegation dog fight and an excellent start for Michael Smith. Are we seeing the beginnings of a strike partnership?
Even more inspired to take the trip down the M6 on Tuesday but they look in awesome form. Any result there would be a bonus.mancrobin

smirg kcab wrote: 3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places. It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away. Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs. Just a thought Coymr

More personal abuse . I do feel sorry for you

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: 3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places. It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away. Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs. Just a thought Coymr[/p][/quote]More personal abuse . I do feel sorry for youandy5364

Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.

On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.

Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shut

Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.
On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.
Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shutScouse Red

I would be more critical of the choice of music at CG than of Mark Cooper. Fantastic signing midweek and a new defender... So those heaping all this bile on Cooper need to simmer down and remember what a joke we were under McDonald..... BIG result to stop the rot... Gives time to work out how to set-up away from home.... 10th place will be a huge step forward compared to life under The Corpse.... Great to hear Kassim making a positive contribution again. Enjoy the weekend, CITY LOST AGAIN!!!!!

I would be more critical of the choice of music at CG than of Mark Cooper. Fantastic signing midweek and a new defender... So those heaping all this bile on Cooper need to simmer down and remember what a joke we were under McDonald..... BIG result to stop the rot... Gives time to work out how to set-up away from home.... 10th place will be a huge step forward compared to life under The Corpse.... Great to hear Kassim making a positive contribution again. Enjoy the weekend, CITY LOST AGAIN!!!!!END_UB40 (it's lame)

Lucky! we were poor and it was daylight robbery! good to see Fodds back to his best and he saved us,Smith and Ranger should be a good partnership,but the rest were awful and the only chance we got at Walsall is no chance! much work to do for Power and Coops! 6 more wins and hopefully we'll be safe,that was a very,very lucky 3 points,the Shrews were mugged!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky! we were poor and it was daylight robbery! good to see Fodds back to his best and he saved us,Smith and Ranger should be a good partnership,but the rest were awful and the only chance we got at Walsall is no chance! much work to do for Power and Coops! 6 more wins and hopefully we'll be safe,that was a very,very lucky 3 points,the Shrews were mugged!!!!!!!!!!!!!the don69

[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
Ranger on the bench ...what a joke. ( Whats happened to Storey? ) Cooper the idiot.[/p][/quote]Sorry but I only see one idiot here. Time for you to move on I think.avo

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr

I do go to away games.

Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.

I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr[/p][/quote]I do go to away games.
Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.
I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.Swindonian63

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr

I do go to away games.

Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.

I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.

Xxx

[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr[/p][/quote]I do go to away games.
Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.
I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.[/p][/quote]Xxxsmirg kcab

I do question how some people can call themselves fans on this website. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you can't support the team when they come back from two limp away defeats with a performance of character if not high quality then what is the point of following the team. Renegation is stupid to be talking about we are Eighth in the table and 5 points off the playoffs. Whilst it is clearly debatable especially considering our away form that we will make the playoffs I find it wrong that Cooper is slated for putting together a team pushing at the right end of the table with a team that let's face it has been put together last minute. Smith looked handy and ranger is a class above on his day. I'd like to know how many of those moaning for the sake of moaning really no what it's like to be on bad form as Danny Wilson's second season and Maurice Maplas's tenure were times when you really had reason to moan.

I do question how some people can call themselves fans on this website. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you can't support the team when they come back from two limp away defeats with a performance of character if not high quality then what is the point of following the team. Renegation is stupid to be talking about we are Eighth in the table and 5 points off the playoffs. Whilst it is clearly debatable especially considering our away form that we will make the playoffs I find it wrong that Cooper is slated for putting together a team pushing at the right end of the table with a team that let's face it has been put together last minute. Smith looked handy and ranger is a class above on his day. I'd like to know how many of those moaning for the sake of moaning really no what it's like to be on bad form as Danny Wilson's second season and Maurice Maplas's tenure were times when you really had reason to moan.fitton 93

Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.Haydonender

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr

I do go to away games.

Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.

I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.

I see the nobs are out who is the biggest fan blah,blah. Pointless we all know Jockster is, plus King of the hill with more mentions on here than you. That means he has the biggest nob of all. Well done stfc for a win today.

[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr[/p][/quote]I do go to away games.
Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.
I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.[/p][/quote]I see the nobs are out who is the biggest fan blah,blah. Pointless we all know Jockster is, plus King of the hill with more mentions on here than you. That means he has the biggest nob of all. Well done stfc for a win today.ciclosporindorset

Overall that was poor today. Very flattering scoreline. Agree with Grim and Don about Foderingham, Smith and Ranger but I thought Thompson had a decent game too and Luongo sparked every now and then. The rest? The least said the better.

Overall that was poor today. Very flattering scoreline. Agree with Grim and Don about Foderingham, Smith and Ranger but I thought Thompson had a decent game too and Luongo sparked every now and then. The rest? The least said the better.Oi Den!

itslove wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .

Great idea, lose three and bin the bloke backing the club. I assume you have a rich replacement.

Changing manager ever time a team loses 3 games on the trot is a fantastic idea. We could have 4/5 managers a season that way, brilliant.

Please explain where we would find a new backer at the drop of a hat. I suppose we are on our 3rd owner in less than a year so they must be easy to find, especially with money to invest.

[quote][p][bold]itslove[/bold] wrote:
Another weekend another struggle against another poor struggling side . Two new ish forwards in . A risk . Two out Ranger bed ridden with lazy itous and the other going on loan . Even though hes half good and atleast could play . I hate saying this , but we need Power out , and although Coopers a good guy he will take us no where . We need a manager with some chance of forming a decent side . Weve bought in a bunch or rejects , they have not jelled , Cooper doesn't know what to do with them . He plays a A game a passing game , when what is needed is some strength and hardness and some fight in the team . Pretty football wont work when the sides in trouble . If they lose , which they might , we are not playing well , and confidence is 0 , it will be three games on the trot . Another and Cooper and Power will have to go . Not nice watching us lose , but it happened before a losing run , the manager left and things improved . Some times you have to take the hurt , to get the success . If we win today , it will still feel good , any win is good , but it wioll onkly paper over the fact Cooper isn't good enough , and Power sees us as a play thing . We must get a new manager and owners in fast . This will pave the way for future success .[/p][/quote]Great idea, lose three and bin the bloke backing the club. I assume you have a rich replacement.
Changing manager ever time a team loses 3 games on the trot is a fantastic idea. We could have 4/5 managers a season that way, brilliant.
Please explain where we would find a new backer at the drop of a hat. I suppose we are on our 3rd owner in less than a year so they must be easy to find, especially with money to invest.Oxon-Red

the don69 wrote:
The Oxford Manager has left chaps and to be boss at Northampton!LOL! good ol Cobblers!!!!

I think he thought he was going to manage Coventry .

LOL,Nice one jayden!!!!

[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
The Oxford Manager has left chaps and to be boss at Northampton!LOL! good ol Cobblers!!!![/p][/quote]I think he thought he was going to manage Coventry .[/p][/quote]LOL,Nice one jayden!!!!the don69

the don69 wrote:
The Oxford Manager has left chaps and to be boss at Northampton!LOL! good ol Cobblers!!!!

I think he thought he was going to manage Coventry .

LOL,Nice one jayden!!!!

Just what the Doctor ordered , LOL

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
The Oxford Manager has left chaps and to be boss at Northampton!LOL! good ol Cobblers!!!![/p][/quote]I think he thought he was going to manage Coventry .[/p][/quote]LOL,Nice one jayden!!!![/p][/quote]Just what the Doctor ordered , LOLjayden

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Just heard Chris Wilder has left for a bigger club...
...new manager of Northampton Town :-)
COYMR[/p][/quote]Job for PDC Oxon????????????[/p][/quote]PDC likes to wave his scarf at all four stands :-)
COYMROxon-Red

[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Just heard Chris Wilder has left for a bigger club...
...new manager of Northampton Town :-)
COYMR[/p][/quote]Job for PDC Oxon????????????[/p][/quote]PDC likes to wave his scarf at all four stands :-)
COYMR[/p][/quote]Silly me I forgot about that!!!!!!!!!!the don69

Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.

Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.The Jockster

Not a great game. Felt we looked comfortable until the monsoon struck and they took full advantage with the equaliser that brought them back into it.

Thought they sat back second half thinking they may struggle to get forward and we got sucked in leaving 2 at the back at times. The improved conditions helped them acheive this IMO.

Good to get a result when you haven't played well. Liked Smith, fox in the box and a good finish. Thought Reckord did okay considering he had only been with us for 3 hours !

COYMR

Not a great game. Felt we looked comfortable until the monsoon struck and they took full advantage with the equaliser that brought them back into it.
Thought they sat back second half thinking they may struggle to get forward and we got sucked in leaving 2 at the back at times. The improved conditions helped them acheive this IMO.
Good to get a result when you haven't played well. Liked Smith, fox in the box and a good finish. Thought Reckord did okay considering he had only been with us for 3 hours !
COYMROxon-Red

Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.

Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!

I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players

I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.

Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.

Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.

Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.

Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.
Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!
I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players
I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.
Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.
Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.
Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.Psychedelic Syd

The Jockster wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.

Spot on Jock ,a thumbs up . The 3 I took wont be rushing back I fear.

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.[/p][/quote]Spot on Jock ,a thumbs up . The 3 I took wont be rushing back I fear.jayden

Haydonender wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.

[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.[/p][/quote]Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.Di kanny oh

Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.

Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said "The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.

Midfield non existent,

Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday

If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.

Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.
Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said "The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.
Midfield non existent,
Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday
If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.Davidsyrett

Haydonender wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.

Agree with your post but think Reckord needs to be given a chance. I suspect he was named as sub as cover without being expected to play and Jay's injury chucked him in at the deep end. IMO he needs to be judged after he has trained with the squad and actually learnt another players name.

COYMR

[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.[/p][/quote]Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.[/p][/quote]Agree with your post but think Reckord needs to be given a chance. I suspect he was named as sub as cover without being expected to play and Jay's injury chucked him in at the deep end. IMO he needs to be judged after he has trained with the squad and actually learnt another players name.
COYMROxon-Red

Haydonender wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.

Mike, I wonder if Reckford was signed as a centre half rather than a fullback? I agree he didn't impress at left back.

[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.[/p][/quote]Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.[/p][/quote]Mike, I wonder if Reckford was signed as a centre half rather than a fullback? I agree he didn't impress at left back.Oi Den!

Davidsyrett wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.

Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said &quot;The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.

Midfield non existent,

Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday

If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.

Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.

COYMR

[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.
Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said "The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.
Midfield non existent,
Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday
If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.[/p][/quote]Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.
COYMROxon-Red

smirg kcab wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle

3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.

It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?

Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr

I do go to away games.

Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.

I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.

I see the nobs are out who is the biggest fan blah,blah. Pointless we all know Jockster is, plus King of the hill with more mentions on here than you. That means he has the biggest nob of all. Well done stfc for a win today.

Ciclo congratulations once again on contributing absolutely diddly squat to the debate, here's me thinking we were talking about today's game and there's you as usual spouting your boring predictable abusive vile bile, rather than making any positive comment.
As you were obviously there perhaps you'd like to comment on the performance? No doubt you'll also be at Walsall on Tuesday as well ?
Oh wait a minute - of course you weren't there and won't be On Tuesday either hence your pathetic contribution today.
You know I might just slot in another couple of posts just to p!ss you off even more. Sincerely hoping not to hear from you - love and hugsmy Darzet Dumpling!

[quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
3 points today or we will get sucked into the relegation battle[/p][/quote]3 points today to keep in touch with the pay-of places.
It's an important game and I agree that we need to win but we're 9th, not 19th. Why don't you check the league table before making a statement like that?[/p][/quote]Lol yeah nice one
Lose today 8 points from relegation and we don't win away.
Think we will win tho. so won't be a concern for a couple more weeks, I take it you don't go away ? If you did your an absent minded fool to think we can get in the playoffs.
Just a thought
Coymr[/p][/quote]I do go to away games.
Re-read what I said. I didn't say we'd get to the play offs; in fact I don't think we will, and if we did we're not ready for higher league status. I was merely pointing out to you where we were in the league and that it's some way from the relegation places.
I can be absent minded, but then so are many others. I'm not a fool. You however are an abusive and cretinous pratt. In my opinion of course.[/p][/quote]I see the nobs are out who is the biggest fan blah,blah. Pointless we all know Jockster is, plus King of the hill with more mentions on here than you. That means he has the biggest nob of all. Well done stfc for a win today.[/p][/quote]Ciclo congratulations once again on contributing absolutely diddly squat to the debate, here's me thinking we were talking about today's game and there's you as usual spouting your boring predictable abusive vile bile, rather than making any positive comment.
As you were obviously there perhaps you'd like to comment on the performance? No doubt you'll also be at Walsall on Tuesday as well ?
Oh wait a minute - of course you weren't there and won't be On Tuesday either hence your pathetic contribution today.
You know I might just slot in another couple of posts just to p!ss you off even more. Sincerely hoping not to hear from you - love and hugsmy Darzet Dumpling!The Jockster

Think 90% of the fans would agree Ward ( nice bloke) needs taking out of the team . Hope j is fit for Tue's. If he is then play him at centre back .Also agree our midfield need to up the game, only Prichard who puts in 100% .

Think 90% of the fans would agree Ward ( nice bloke) needs taking out of the team . Hope j is fit for Tue's. If he is then play him at centre back .Also agree our midfield need to up the game, only Prichard who puts in 100% .jayden

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.

Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!

I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players

I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.

Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.

Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.

Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.

Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.

[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.
Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!
I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players
I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.
Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.
Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.
Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.[/p][/quote]Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.Oi Den!

Haydonender wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.

Mike, I wonder if Reckford was signed as a centre half rather than a fullback? I agree he didn't impress at left back.

Hi Den do you know what that's what my thoughts were when seeing the player quite tall but very one footed I felt.

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.[/p][/quote]Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.[/p][/quote]Mike, I wonder if Reckford was signed as a centre half rather than a fullback? I agree he didn't impress at left back.[/p][/quote]Hi Den do you know what that's what my thoughts were when seeing the player quite tall but very one footed I felt.Di kanny oh

Davidsyrett wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.

Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said &quot;The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.

Midfield non existent,

Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday

If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.

Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.

COYMR

I agree, we should give him time, but he didn't seem to have a clue where he should be playing. Surely he should have some positional sense?

[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.
Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said "The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.
Midfield non existent,
Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday
If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.[/p][/quote]Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.
COYMR[/p][/quote]I agree, we should give him time, but he didn't seem to have a clue where he should be playing. Surely he should have some positional sense?Davidsyrett

Honestly it's great when we play brilliantly and win but I'd always take a lucky one nil off a strikers backside if that's what it means we win.

Delighted for Smith who as I said the other day I'd heard good things from Womble fans about. How Reckford can be slated after being at the club for three hours and not even knowing players names is beyond me. Give him a chance for flipping hecks sake.

Yes we were poor today but delighted we won. Hope we play Nile and Smudger up front Tuesday with as I keep asking for Louis T and Kasim in the same midfield. Troy hopefully very near his comeback.

Take the positives people, take the positives people......

Honestly it's great when we play brilliantly and win but I'd always take a lucky one nil off a strikers backside if that's what it means we win.
Delighted for Smith who as I said the other day I'd heard good things from Womble fans about. How Reckford can be slated after being at the club for three hours and not even knowing players names is beyond me. Give him a chance for flipping hecks sake.
Yes we were poor today but delighted we won. Hope we play Nile and Smudger up front Tuesday with as I keep asking for Louis T and Kasim in the same midfield. Troy hopefully very near his comeback.
Take the positives people, take the positives people......dreamofacleansheet2

Only one idiot and it is isn't Cooper.
So tell me the font of all knowledge why shouldn't Ranger should not be the bench when he has been ill?
Even your dream boy Storey would agree with that.
Judging by what i saw of Smith in this one game and Ranger i can easily see why you dream Story is not in the side.
BTW i am a fan of Story myself but realize there many reasons that he is not picked but does not leave me distraught and heartbroken like you.

[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote:
Ranger on the bench ...what a joke. ( Whats happened to Storey? )
Cooper the idiot.[/p][/quote]Only one idiot and it is isn't Cooper.
So tell me the font of all knowledge why shouldn't Ranger should not be the bench when he has been ill?
Even your dream boy Storey would agree with that.
Judging by what i saw of Smith in this one game and Ranger i can easily see why you dream Story is not in the side.
BTW i am a fan of Story myself but realize there many reasons that he is not picked but does not leave me distraught and heartbroken like you.swwindon61uk

Davidsyrett wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.

Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said &quot;The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.

Midfield non existent,

Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday

If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.

Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.

COYMR

I agree, we should give him time, but he didn't seem to have a clue where he should be playing. Surely he should have some positional sense?

We played very high today second half with both full backs pushing on, expecting the wind to be the same as at the end of the first half possibly ?
Shrewsbury certainly sat back at the start of the second half . He may have heard the instructions to push high and followed those instructions, don' t know. It would have made sense as, given the conditions when they went in, it would have made it hard for Shrewsbury to get forward.

The conditions changed markedly shortly into the second half and numerous times we were left with Branco and Ward on their own. Naiviety on our part for not identifying the change in conditions perhaps. I just think it is harsh to judge someone who has been chucked in at the deep end, bit like buying a new computer with new version of windows, you know what you want to do but are not quite sure how the new system works.

COYMR

[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote:
Well how did we get 3 points today, as bad as a performance at home that I have seen since Bury last season.(even taking the conditions into account) Only an outstanding performance from Wes and Ranger coming off the bench salvaged anything.
Defensively we were shocking,Ward is the major problem, it's a joke he is the club captain, no leadership on the pitch, he has to be dropped for Tuesday night. (I would rather have Hall than Ward any day). Branco looked solid if a bit shaky, Nathan had a good game but Reckord, as someone said "The most inept positional performance I have seen in a Swindon shirt for many years" to say he is raw is an understatement. Hopefully Jay's injury isn't too bad.
Midfield non existent,
Up front Smith looked impressive and 100% committed, hopefully we can play both him and Ranger up front on Tuesday
If, and it's a big if we can get a result at Walsall, we really are back in the mix, but we have to get the defence sorted, hopefully an experienced CB on loan who's also a born leader could be brought in before hand.[/p][/quote]Bit sad that a bloke signed 3 hours before kick-off is being judged and convicted.
COYMR[/p][/quote]I agree, we should give him time, but he didn't seem to have a clue where he should be playing. Surely he should have some positional sense?[/p][/quote]We played very high today second half with both full backs pushing on, expecting the wind to be the same as at the end of the first half possibly ?
Shrewsbury certainly sat back at the start of the second half . He may have heard the instructions to push high and followed those instructions, don' t know. It would have made sense as, given the conditions when they went in, it would have made it hard for Shrewsbury to get forward.
The conditions changed markedly shortly into the second half and numerous times we were left with Branco and Ward on their own. Naiviety on our part for not identifying the change in conditions perhaps. I just think it is harsh to judge someone who has been chucked in at the deep end, bit like buying a new computer with new version of windows, you know what you want to do but are not quite sure how the new system works.
COYMROxon-Red

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!swwindon61uk

As everyone agrees a very lucky win today.
Smith looks another quality signing
Wes clearly MOM.
First half i thought we looked composed without really threatening.
As for Reckford,personally i can understand the criticism he has already got on here,i thought he was steady enough,i would also like to see what he is like with the ball and that we did not see as he was overlooked all the time despite being in space!
Branco i thought had a good game.
Ward i seriously think that he should be dropped,tough to do with the captain but i think it needs to happen.
Has to be two up front and get the bloody ball in the box!
O love our keep football but when you have a chance to cross,cross it,this was one thing PDC did do right,get as many balls in the box as you can.

As everyone agrees a very lucky win today.
Smith looks another quality signing
Wes clearly MOM.
First half i thought we looked composed without really threatening.
As for Reckford,personally i can understand the criticism he has already got on here,i thought he was steady enough,i would also like to see what he is like with the ball and that we did not see as he was overlooked all the time despite being in space!
Branco i thought had a good game.
Ward i seriously think that he should be dropped,tough to do with the captain but i think it needs to happen.
Has to be two up front and get the bloody ball in the box!
O love our keep football but when you have a chance to cross,cross it,this was one thing PDC did do right,get as many balls in the box as you can.swwindon61uk

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.

Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!

I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players

I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.

Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.

Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.

Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.

Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.

Because he was coming back from a viral infection, of course he had to conserve energy. He headed off the line to save us, kept corners out when Ward was doing his best to kill our chances, scored our winning goal, made the goal that wrapped things up, has more skill in his little finger than Ward has in his whole body. But for him (and for Wes's heroics) we'd have lost today. But he, off his sick bed, doesn't put himself about enough to satisfy you? Someone needs to stop looking at the world through coke glasses.

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.
Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!
I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players
I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.
Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.
Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.
Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.[/p][/quote]Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.[/p][/quote]Because he was coming back from a viral infection, of course he had to conserve energy. He headed off the line to save us, kept corners out when Ward was doing his best to kill our chances, scored our winning goal, made the goal that wrapped things up, has more skill in his little finger than Ward has in his whole body. But for him (and for Wes's heroics) we'd have lost today. But he, off his sick bed, doesn't put himself about enough to satisfy you? Someone needs to stop looking at the world through coke glasses.california andy

The Jockster wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.

Malky, Pretty good summary of today's event. How conditions changed from the first to second half in their favour I thought the Gods were against us, especially after Kettles diabolical free kick decision that gifted them their goal.

Most in the legends after the final whistle agreed it was the poorest performance at home this season, we were all over the place at the back, no leadership and what with them hitting the post, crossbar and Ward almost gifting them one had it not been for Wes, they could have won this game 4-1. so hope the Hall critics will open their eyes and see it's a team problem and not down to the individual.

Cooper went down the tunnel before the final whistle and put his finger up to fans in the Arkell stand. (He was taking stick even though he wasn't in the dug out first half, his motivation to the team is next to nothing, we were doing better if he stayed in the Directors box ), he seems to have allowed personal feelings to cloud his decision with team selection and his opinion about Ranger, his starting 11 was unbalanced and as others have quite rightly said he should have started with a 4-4-2. Granted injuries effected his substitution changes made by Luke. But if the manager can't select a starting 11 to win games then he has real problems.

Congrats to Mike Smith for a very impressive debut, With the Ranger assist given the chance they could be a very effective duo.

By the way told by a fan who spoke to Dany at the game, he knew nothing about being put on transfer list before friday, so he;s as shocked as many fans are.

[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.[/p][/quote]Malky, Pretty good summary of today's event. How conditions changed from the first to second half in their favour I thought the Gods were against us, especially after Kettles diabolical free kick decision that gifted them their goal.
Most in the legends after the final whistle agreed it was the poorest performance at home this season, we were all over the place at the back, no leadership and what with them hitting the post, crossbar and Ward almost gifting them one had it not been for Wes, they could have won this game 4-1. so hope the Hall critics will open their eyes and see it's a team problem and not down to the individual.
Cooper went down the tunnel before the final whistle and put his finger up to fans in the Arkell stand. (He was taking stick even though he wasn't in the dug out first half, his motivation to the team is next to nothing, we were doing better if he stayed in the Directors box ), he seems to have allowed personal feelings to cloud his decision with team selection and his opinion about Ranger, his starting 11 was unbalanced and as others have quite rightly said he should have started with a 4-4-2. Granted injuries effected his substitution changes made by Luke. But if the manager can't select a starting 11 to win games then he has real problems.
Congrats to Mike Smith for a very impressive debut, With the Ranger assist given the chance they could be a very effective duo.
By the way told by a fan who spoke to Dany at the game, he knew nothing about being put on transfer list before friday, so he;s as shocked as many fans are.old town robin

Haydonender wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.

Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.

With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.

Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.

Agree with your post but think Reckord needs to be given a chance. I suspect he was named as sub as cover without being expected to play and Jay's injury chucked him in at the deep end. IMO he needs to be judged after he has trained with the squad and actually learnt another players name.

COYMR

absolutely agree, how some on here can judge a player who has just arrived comes off the bench in an emergency to replace Jay, never trained with the team and how some expect him to do the business is just unbelievable. From what I saw of him, I think he did OK, certainly more sound than the "experienced" Ward's contribution.

For FFS if he gets to play in the next game give the lad a chance.

[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote:
Just got back and we were very lucky today. The conditions were bad first half so that is a valid excuse but second half we were just awful. Wes kept us in the game and then we stole it in the end.
Today showed that we still need another centre back. I've been saying for a lot of the season I thought Hall was actually not that bad and not the main problem in the defence, and Ward really proved that today. Just appalling. I'm not convinced by Branco either, though its a bit soon to judge.
With both strikers scoring I hope we go 4-4-2 next game as we could really do with some genuine width to stretch the opposition. We wouldn't exactly miss Mason/Harley in midfield as they have done absolutely nothing in the last few games.[/p][/quote]Decent assessment of the game. Far too many sloppy passes and mistakes being made so concentration must be poor or non existent. Looked a better team with Ranger and Smith as two strikers at the end and Shrews could not deal with them. Smith though was superb and certainly put a shift in and two goals what more can any one ask but Ranger changed the game when it seemed a point would have robbed Shrewsbury of all the spoils. In the end though we mugged them for the win and got three surprising points and only with thanks to Fods who pulled of some fantastic saves. Win ugly and it happened today and we have been in this position before where we have out played teams and got nothing. Smith looks a fantastic signing and looks to have a great touch and his workrate was very refreshing to see especially running 60 yards to defend the left back position. Not overly convinced by Reckord at left back who's marking was non existent. Missed Jay when he went off.[/p][/quote]Agree with your post but think Reckord needs to be given a chance. I suspect he was named as sub as cover without being expected to play and Jay's injury chucked him in at the deep end. IMO he needs to be judged after he has trained with the squad and actually learnt another players name.
COYMR[/p][/quote]absolutely agree, how some on here can judge a player who has just arrived comes off the bench in an emergency to replace Jay, never trained with the team and how some expect him to do the business is just unbelievable. From what I saw of him, I think he did OK, certainly more sound than the "experienced" Ward's contribution.
For FFS if he gets to play in the next game give the lad a chance.old town robin

Lucky win but evens out over the season as we play well and lose (eg Wolves away). Shrewsbury's finishing was just as bad as our defending.

Ward had a stinker today he keeps getting caught in possession but we have no other available option at the moment if Jay is injured with Troy and Oakley not ready.

The new guy Reckford well appreciate he only joined 3 hours before kick-off but was awful and caught out of position upfield on I think every Shrewsbury attack! He was the left back when Bathram scored v Plymouth in the JPT and his positioning and awareness was shocking then too. He's got to be better than these 2 showings surely. He said on interview he is not a centre back so knock that idea on the head.

Smith had an excellent debut two good finishes and all round play. Ranger although a similar player just seems to have that special something and on his day like he was today he is fantastic. I think those two together will cause havoc and personally I hope we go with the 2 of them up front on Tuesday. Far too narrow today though with the Luongo - Kasim / Harley - Pritchard diamond in midfield, I would go Byrne - Luongo - Louis - Pritchard in a flat 4 and lets utilise our strength which is clearly now Smith and Ranger and get some width into the team and crosses into the box.

Not convinced again by our midfield again although Luongo and Pritchard put in a shift, we so need a no-nonsense tackler, so hoping this is where Power will strengthen, although a centre back would be welcomed too.

Lucky win but evens out over the season as we play well and lose (eg Wolves away). Shrewsbury's finishing was just as bad as our defending.
Ward had a stinker today he keeps getting caught in possession but we have no other available option at the moment if Jay is injured with Troy and Oakley not ready.
The new guy Reckford well appreciate he only joined 3 hours before kick-off but was awful and caught out of position upfield on I think every Shrewsbury attack! He was the left back when Bathram scored v Plymouth in the JPT and his positioning and awareness was shocking then too. He's got to be better than these 2 showings surely. He said on interview he is not a centre back so knock that idea on the head.
Smith had an excellent debut two good finishes and all round play. Ranger although a similar player just seems to have that special something and on his day like he was today he is fantastic. I think those two together will cause havoc and personally I hope we go with the 2 of them up front on Tuesday. Far too narrow today though with the Luongo - Kasim / Harley - Pritchard diamond in midfield, I would go Byrne - Luongo - Louis - Pritchard in a flat 4 and lets utilise our strength which is clearly now Smith and Ranger and get some width into the team and crosses into the box.
Not convinced again by our midfield again although Luongo and Pritchard put in a shift, we so need a no-nonsense tackler, so hoping this is where Power will strengthen, although a centre back would be welcomed too.Wilesy

Not one of our best home performances -a combination of woodwork -fods kept us in the game until the 2 late goals - thought second half in particular ,our buildup play was to slow and predictable - tried to play through them instead of getting the ball into wider positions with more crosses coming in from these areas especially ,once we had 2 big men up front in nile and new boy smith -who by the way impressed me on his debut .
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Not one of our best home performances -a combination of woodwork -fods kept us in the game until the 2 late goals - thought second half in particular ,our buildup play was to slow and predictable - tried to play through them instead of getting the ball into wider positions with more crosses coming in from these areas especially ,once we had 2 big men up front in nile and new boy smith -who by the way impressed me on his debut .
,lifelong red

The Jockster wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.

Malky, Pretty good summary of today's event. How conditions changed from the first to second half in their favour I thought the Gods were against us, especially after Kettles diabolical free kick decision that gifted them their goal.

Most in the legends after the final whistle agreed it was the poorest performance at home this season, we were all over the place at the back, no leadership and what with them hitting the post, crossbar and Ward almost gifting them one had it not been for Wes, they could have won this game 4-1. so hope the Hall critics will open their eyes and see it's a team problem and not down to the individual.

Cooper went down the tunnel before the final whistle and put his finger up to fans in the Arkell stand. (He was taking stick even though he wasn't in the dug out first half, his motivation to the team is next to nothing, we were doing better if he stayed in the Directors box ), he seems to have allowed personal feelings to cloud his decision with team selection and his opinion about Ranger, his starting 11 was unbalanced and as others have quite rightly said he should have started with a 4-4-2. Granted injuries effected his substitution changes made by Luke. But if the manager can't select a starting 11 to win games then he has real problems.

Congrats to Mike Smith for a very impressive debut, With the Ranger assist given the chance they could be a very effective duo.

By the way told by a fan who spoke to Dany at the game, he knew nothing about being put on transfer list before friday, so he;s as shocked as many fans are.

OTR - from your post you're in the Arkells ? I'm in the DR and the free kick was right in front of us - I didn't see anything untoward but asked the question and one or two around me said it was because Branco stepped on the guy's foot. Overall for a ref with a supposed reputation of flashing a card I thought he had a good game.
I can see both sides of the coin re Ranger - he often appears to look disinterested and somewhat lackadaisical but then pops up with a good defensive clearance or a goal and there's no doubt in my mind that fit fit or semi fit he adds an extra dimension to the team- he was the difference today and won us the 3pts in the end. It is such a pity that his talent is overshadowed by his off field antics and as others have said with Smith's promising start both have to play home and away in my book.
Wouldn't have seen Coops gesture but disappointing to hear he was getting stick he doesn't deserve that and IMO he's doing a good job in difficult circumstances.

[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote:
Unbelievable Jeff Shrews fans must be wondering how they're not going home with the three points?
We were like the fish at the country ground chippy 2nd half -well battered! Fods MOM by a country mile. Wardy mare of the season - he was so bad you'd have thought he was involved in a match fixing scam! How he didn't give then two goals single handed I don't know!! Surely the hook for those boots is looming ever closer. Again too many midfield players off their game- can anyone tell me what Harley brings to the side? but good showings today from Pritch, Jmac until he went off, Nathan better today, and obviously the new boy Smith an impressive debut. He holds the ball up ala Ranger and his height is a big plus - we surely have to play both up front. Shrews scored a scorcher of a free kick, taking advantage of the wind, that Wes wouldn't have stopped in slow motion even. Ironically the wind dropped and proved no help to Town in the 2nd half.
Overall we were probably second best but Coops got lucky with bringing Ranger on and a combination of Wes and the woodwork meant that today the rub of the green went Town's way and they were able to secure a vital there points to consolidate the quest for L1 status next season.[/p][/quote]Malky, Pretty good summary of today's event. How conditions changed from the first to second half in their favour I thought the Gods were against us, especially after Kettles diabolical free kick decision that gifted them their goal.
Most in the legends after the final whistle agreed it was the poorest performance at home this season, we were all over the place at the back, no leadership and what with them hitting the post, crossbar and Ward almost gifting them one had it not been for Wes, they could have won this game 4-1. so hope the Hall critics will open their eyes and see it's a team problem and not down to the individual.
Cooper went down the tunnel before the final whistle and put his finger up to fans in the Arkell stand. (He was taking stick even though he wasn't in the dug out first half, his motivation to the team is next to nothing, we were doing better if he stayed in the Directors box ), he seems to have allowed personal feelings to cloud his decision with team selection and his opinion about Ranger, his starting 11 was unbalanced and as others have quite rightly said he should have started with a 4-4-2. Granted injuries effected his substitution changes made by Luke. But if the manager can't select a starting 11 to win games then he has real problems.
Congrats to Mike Smith for a very impressive debut, With the Ranger assist given the chance they could be a very effective duo.
By the way told by a fan who spoke to Dany at the game, he knew nothing about being put on transfer list before friday, so he;s as shocked as many fans are.[/p][/quote]OTR - from your post you're in the Arkells ? I'm in the DR and the free kick was right in front of us - I didn't see anything untoward but asked the question and one or two around me said it was because Branco stepped on the guy's foot. Overall for a ref with a supposed reputation of flashing a card I thought he had a good game.
I can see both sides of the coin re Ranger - he often appears to look disinterested and somewhat lackadaisical but then pops up with a good defensive clearance or a goal and there's no doubt in my mind that fit fit or semi fit he adds an extra dimension to the team- he was the difference today and won us the 3pts in the end. It is such a pity that his talent is overshadowed by his off field antics and as others have said with Smith's promising start both have to play home and away in my book.
Wouldn't have seen Coops gesture but disappointing to hear he was getting stick he doesn't deserve that and IMO he's doing a good job in difficult circumstances.The Jockster

Scouse Red wrote:
Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.

On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.

Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shut

Good summary.

Musn't let the result cloud a worrying performance today.

We seem incapable of breaking down teams when they sit in front of us. We do not seem to have the ability to get round the back and cross or make that killer pass into space, and playing the system we do, you have to be able to do both.

Team desperately needed a captain on the field today to sort things out and it appears that Ward's form is affecting his ability to do that job. I dont see him shouting, pointing and cajoling like he used to do last season. We need cover in central defence and we need it now.

Mason hasnt had a good game since Wolves away and Harley when he came on did not have the ability to make a difference. Would also agree that Reckord (and I know he only signed this morning) is not the answer, he was out of position to manty times. He, by his own admission, is a left back and not a central defender.

[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote:
Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.
On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.
Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shut[/p][/quote]Good summary.
Musn't let the result cloud a worrying performance today.
We seem incapable of breaking down teams when they sit in front of us. We do not seem to have the ability to get round the back and cross or make that killer pass into space, and playing the system we do, you have to be able to do both.
Team desperately needed a captain on the field today to sort things out and it appears that Ward's form is affecting his ability to do that job. I dont see him shouting, pointing and cajoling like he used to do last season. We need cover in central defence and we need it now.
Mason hasnt had a good game since Wolves away and Harley when he came on did not have the ability to make a difference. Would also agree that Reckord (and I know he only signed this morning) is not the answer, he was out of position to manty times. He, by his own admission, is a left back and not a central defender.castle9

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.

Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!

I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players

I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.

Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.

Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.

Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.

Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.

Because he was coming back from a viral infection, of course he had to conserve energy. He headed off the line to save us, kept corners out when Ward was doing his best to kill our chances, scored our winning goal, made the goal that wrapped things up, has more skill in his little finger than Ward has in his whole body. But for him (and for Wes's heroics) we'd have lost today. But he, off his sick bed, doesn't put himself about enough to satisfy you? Someone needs to stop looking at the world through coke glasses.

Oh dear. I wasn't talking about today. If you'd seen my earlier post, you'd be aware that I praised Ranger's performance. I think someone needs to understand that the world is not black and white. Ranger was brilliant today, as he's often been. He has also often been uninterested - on the pitch and in his general attitude towards STFC. That may be good enough for you. I prefer players to show commitment to the cause. Great start by Michael Smith.

On another note, I don't think anyone's writing Reckord off. The discussion was about how he played today.

[quote][p][bold]california andy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote:
Appalling weather, particularly first half. Smith worked hard all match - reminded me a bit of Alex Revell. It was crazy though only playing one up front until the cavalry arrived in the form of Ranger.
Once Ranger came on you could see he was in a different class - he is the best footballer at our club. Not only did he score the vital second but he also gifted Smith the third goal with a great and very unselfish pass. Ranger was also trying to organise the defence at corner kicks; his own placement is always perfect, he has great vision and awareness. With Ward seemingly playing for Shrewsbury today I started to wonder (tongue in cheek) why we didn't make Nile captain. Could be just what he needs!!!
I don't know why Mark Cooper is so critical of Ranger for not tracking back. If he did it would tire him early in the game and negate our main goal threat. I don't remember Jimmy Greaves spending much time in his own half or chasing around and nor did Duncan Shearer. Goal scorers are there to score goals and keeping Nile up front ties up 2 opposition players
I thought Branco started well but got less effective and confident as the game went on. I think it unsettled him having Ward around trying to set up scoring opportunities for Shrewsbury while slowing down our play and causing panic attacks on the occasions when he remembered that he was in a red shirt. Wes was immense, fantastic saves that kept us in the game again and again. Kasim played too deep - he's never going to reach his goal target by spending so much time trying to prop up the defence, he has a terrific shot and needs to use it far more frequently. Not one shot from him today.
Ranger and Smith need to start together on Tuesday but we need to get crosses in quickly to them, as soon as the opportunity arises. We fiddle about so much it gives the other team all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and crowd us out.
Disappointing to see Mason go off so early, he looked very promising early in the season but has been largely anonymous in the games he has played recently when fit. Harley had a poor game by his standards today and Luongo drifted in and out of the game. Pritchard was tenacious as always - some of our other players could learn a lot from his never say die attitude.
Shrewsbury were very unlucky - they must have been gutted by the late goals. Brilliant win for us but another performance that was less than convincing. Hard to see how our away form is going to improve unless we sort out our defence and show some tactical nous.[/p][/quote]Syd, Smith didn't seem to burn himself out through working hard so why should Ranger? That excuse just doesn't cut any ice. If Ranger gets tired through running around for 90 minutes then he's not fit enough to be a professional footballer. You may be right that Greaves and Shearer never busted a gut to help their defence but Austin and Paynter did - and made a massive contribution to the side in the process. Success in this division starts with hard graft.[/p][/quote]Because he was coming back from a viral infection, of course he had to conserve energy. He headed off the line to save us, kept corners out when Ward was doing his best to kill our chances, scored our winning goal, made the goal that wrapped things up, has more skill in his little finger than Ward has in his whole body. But for him (and for Wes's heroics) we'd have lost today. But he, off his sick bed, doesn't put himself about enough to satisfy you? Someone needs to stop looking at the world through coke glasses.[/p][/quote]Oh dear. I wasn't talking about today. If you'd seen my earlier post, you'd be aware that I praised Ranger's performance. I think someone needs to understand that the world is not black and white. Ranger was brilliant today, as he's often been. He has also often been uninterested - on the pitch and in his general attitude towards STFC. That may be good enough for you. I prefer players to show commitment to the cause. Great start by Michael Smith.
On another note, I don't think anyone's writing Reckord off. The discussion was about how he played today.Oi Den!

I enjoyed today's game, the weather towards the end of the second half was the highlight for my 4 year old on his third visit to the county ground (2 wins and a draw) 3 points being my highlight. Whether or not we deserved to win is another matter, but why get so annoyed about it all? It's 22 men all trying there best to win a game. My suggestion is if the football is so bad get a hotdog, make some paper airplanes from pizza menus, pretend your Spider-Man and go home and tell your mum how you had a great day with your dad, uncle Matt and Dave.

I enjoyed today's game, the weather towards the end of the second half was the highlight for my 4 year old on his third visit to the county ground (2 wins and a draw) 3 points being my highlight. Whether or not we deserved to win is another matter, but why get so annoyed about it all? It's 22 men all trying there best to win a game. My suggestion is if the football is so bad get a hotdog, make some paper airplanes from pizza menus, pretend your Spider-Man and go home and tell your mum how you had a great day with your dad, uncle Matt and Dave.Reverend Peyton

Anyone who went to wolves what goes around comes around
Thanks mark once again for noticing your tactics ain't good enough but quick to Recife it
The futures cooper , let's go on a bender , let's go on a bender la la la

Anyone who went to wolves what goes around comes around
Thanks mark once again for noticing your tactics ain't good enough but quick to Recife it
The futures cooper , let's go on a bender , let's go on a bender la la lasmirg kcab

Would also be good if people stopped shouting at players to just get rid of the ball and then screaming when they hoof it up the pitch to one of the opposition. Might also benefit a few of you to stop thinking your anywhere near capable of doing mark coopers job because you've won the champions league on championship manager or financially sound enough to be in powers position and run the club because you won won £72 on an accumulator. Just chill out and be thankful someone taught you to love swindon because win or lose it's an afternoon away from painting the hallway or doing the weekly shop. COYR

Would also be good if people stopped shouting at players to just get rid of the ball and then screaming when they hoof it up the pitch to one of the opposition. Might also benefit a few of you to stop thinking your anywhere near capable of doing mark coopers job because you've won the champions league on championship manager or financially sound enough to be in powers position and run the club because you won won £72 on an accumulator. Just chill out and be thankful someone taught you to love swindon because win or lose it's an afternoon away from painting the hallway or doing the weekly shop. COYRReverend Peyton

Reverend Peyton wrote:
Would also be good if people stopped shouting at players to just get rid of the ball and then screaming when they hoof it up the pitch to one of the opposition. Might also benefit a few of you to stop thinking your anywhere near capable of doing mark coopers job because you've won the champions league on championship manager or financially sound enough to be in powers position and run the club because you won won £72 on an accumulator. Just chill out and be thankful someone taught you to love swindon because win or lose it's an afternoon away from painting the hallway or doing the weekly shop. COYR

It would be even better if you stopped patronising your fellow Town fans.

[quote][p][bold]Reverend Peyton[/bold] wrote:
Would also be good if people stopped shouting at players to just get rid of the ball and then screaming when they hoof it up the pitch to one of the opposition. Might also benefit a few of you to stop thinking your anywhere near capable of doing mark coopers job because you've won the champions league on championship manager or financially sound enough to be in powers position and run the club because you won won £72 on an accumulator. Just chill out and be thankful someone taught you to love swindon because win or lose it's an afternoon away from painting the hallway or doing the weekly shop. COYR[/p][/quote]It would be even better if you stopped patronising your fellow Town fans.Oi Den!

Oi Den! wrote:
By the way Andy, could you explain &quot;coke glasses". Perhaps I've led a sheltered life but I'm afraid that one beats me.

Sure - an americanism. Try looking at the world through an old fashioned Coca Cola bottle - won't see very clearly. Think of glasses made of the stuff - like rose-tinted glasses...

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
By the way Andy, could you explain "coke glasses". Perhaps I've led a sheltered life but I'm afraid that one beats me.[/p][/quote]Sure - an americanism. Try looking at the world through an old fashioned Coca Cola bottle - won't see very clearly. Think of glasses made of the stuff - like rose-tinted glasses...california andy

Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.

Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.

3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.

Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.
Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.
3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.Newshoes84

Newshoes84 wrote:
Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.

Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.

3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.

Coops knows,thats why we won,no?

[quote][p][bold]Newshoes84[/bold] wrote:
Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.
Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.
3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.[/p][/quote]Coops knows,thats why we won,no?red white

Reverend Peyton wrote:
I enjoyed today's game, the weather towards the end of the second half was the highlight for my 4 year old on his third visit to the county ground (2 wins and a draw) 3 points being my highlight. Whether or not we deserved to win is another matter, but why get so annoyed about it all? It's 22 men all trying there best to win a game. My suggestion is if the football is so bad get a hotdog, make some paper airplanes from pizza menus, pretend your Spider-Man and go home and tell your mum how you had a great day with your dad, uncle Matt and Dave.

I can beat that record as my Grandson George has been to 4 and seen us win 4-0 /5-2/ 2-1 /3-1 and I have missed 3 of the goals due to the toilet rush.

[quote][p][bold]Reverend Peyton[/bold] wrote:
I enjoyed today's game, the weather towards the end of the second half was the highlight for my 4 year old on his third visit to the county ground (2 wins and a draw) 3 points being my highlight. Whether or not we deserved to win is another matter, but why get so annoyed about it all? It's 22 men all trying there best to win a game. My suggestion is if the football is so bad get a hotdog, make some paper airplanes from pizza menus, pretend your Spider-Man and go home and tell your mum how you had a great day with your dad, uncle Matt and Dave.[/p][/quote]I can beat that record as my Grandson George has been to 4 and seen us win 4-0 /5-2/ 2-1 /3-1 and I have missed 3 of the goals due to the toilet rush.jayden

Scouse Red wrote:
Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.

On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.

Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shut

Good summary.

Musn't let the result cloud a worrying performance today.

We seem incapable of breaking down teams when they sit in front of us. We do not seem to have the ability to get round the back and cross or make that killer pass into space, and playing the system we do, you have to be able to do both.

Team desperately needed a captain on the field today to sort things out and it appears that Ward's form is affecting his ability to do that job. I dont see him shouting, pointing and cajoling like he used to do last season. We need cover in central defence and we need it now.

Mason hasnt had a good game since Wolves away and Harley when he came on did not have the ability to make a difference. Would also agree that Reckord (and I know he only signed this morning) is not the answer, he was out of position to manty times. He, by his own admission, is a left back and not a central defender.

Thanks Castle - we couldn't get round the back as when Nile came on up front he put Pritchard right behind the two of them and we then had Luongo, Harley and Kasim as a tucked in central 3 when it was crying out for some width.

To be fair i think this is why Reckford was caught out of position so many times, was he being told to push up by Cooper, didn't look like it from where we sit in the Family Stand and Cooper was talking to him quite a bit by the looks of it.

It doesn't matter on the day as long as we take the 3 points and the learnings from the game, Tuesday and how we set up and utilise players off the bench will be key as i was very impressed when we played Walsall at home, they were superb and had obviously done their homework on us.

[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote:
Just back in from what was, in all honest a poor match in dreadful conditions. In my view we were dreadful, Mason went off early and i'd of brought Louis on instead of Harley, who was, poor. Our defending was abysmal and Ward is badly in need or a rest or rollicking or both! Wasn't impressed with the new left back although granted it was his first game.
On the plus side, Wes made some great saves, Nathan Thompson has his best game in ages, Michael Smith worked his socks off and scored two good goals and Nile popped up with a vital winner and cleared 3/4 defensive headers when they were nearly in.
Poor game, 3 very valuable points though, we've played better and lost so big result today. Must play better and we need a centre half please Mr Power before the window 'slams' shut[/p][/quote]Good summary.
Musn't let the result cloud a worrying performance today.
We seem incapable of breaking down teams when they sit in front of us. We do not seem to have the ability to get round the back and cross or make that killer pass into space, and playing the system we do, you have to be able to do both.
Team desperately needed a captain on the field today to sort things out and it appears that Ward's form is affecting his ability to do that job. I dont see him shouting, pointing and cajoling like he used to do last season. We need cover in central defence and we need it now.
Mason hasnt had a good game since Wolves away and Harley when he came on did not have the ability to make a difference. Would also agree that Reckord (and I know he only signed this morning) is not the answer, he was out of position to manty times. He, by his own admission, is a left back and not a central defender.[/p][/quote]Thanks Castle - we couldn't get round the back as when Nile came on up front he put Pritchard right behind the two of them and we then had Luongo, Harley and Kasim as a tucked in central 3 when it was crying out for some width.
To be fair i think this is why Reckford was caught out of position so many times, was he being told to push up by Cooper, didn't look like it from where we sit in the Family Stand and Cooper was talking to him quite a bit by the looks of it.
It doesn't matter on the day as long as we take the 3 points and the learnings from the game, Tuesday and how we set up and utilise players off the bench will be key as i was very impressed when we played Walsall at home, they were superb and had obviously done their homework on us.Scouse Red

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are &quot;bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?

[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win![/p][/quote]Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?Oi Den!

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are &quot;bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?

Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&Joan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!!

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win![/p][/quote]Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?[/p][/quote]Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&Joan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!!the don69

Newshoes is spot on. If we play 4-4-2 at Walsall we'll get ripped to pieces. We'll struggle to get a result there whatever formation we play but there's no point in committing football suicide. Cooper says we'll go there and be dogged. That will be code for safety in numbers - crowd the midfield. Ranger on the bench again because Smith is dogged and he's not. No complaints at all from me about Cooper's management or tactics. Until we get some stronger players at the back and in midfield, we can't afford to play open football against better teams than us.

Newshoes is spot on. If we play 4-4-2 at Walsall we'll get ripped to pieces. We'll struggle to get a result there whatever formation we play but there's no point in committing football suicide. Cooper says we'll go there and be dogged. That will be code for safety in numbers - crowd the midfield. Ranger on the bench again because Smith is dogged and he's not. No complaints at all from me about Cooper's management or tactics. Until we get some stronger players at the back and in midfield, we can't afford to play open football against better teams than us.Oi Den!

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are &quot;bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?

100% agree with this post and i really do believe you finish where you deserve to.
You are right it is not luck we have one of the best goalkeepers in the League.
Biggest stroke of luck we had yesterday is when Jackson took Eaves off!

[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win![/p][/quote]Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?[/p][/quote]100% agree with this post and i really do believe you finish where you deserve to.
You are right it is not luck we have one of the best goalkeepers in the League.
Biggest stroke of luck we had yesterday is when Jackson took Eaves off!swwindon61uk

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are &quot;bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?

Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&amp;J
oan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!!

This is what i said to my friend sat next to me when Smith scored his 2nd " Could you see Williams scoring that".

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win![/p][/quote]Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?[/p][/quote]Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&J
oan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!![/p][/quote]This is what i said to my friend sat next to me when Smith scored his 2nd " Could you see Williams scoring that".swwindon61uk

Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson play him in midfield please. We don't need to sign anyone he can tackle and put himself about and his in my opinion under rated on the ball.

Smith and Ranger up front then two wide men, frankly Bryne and Pritchard would do for me away from home.

Also Sam please ask the direct question about Spurs loanee shaving to play. Put it to be done way or the other!

Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson play him in midfield please. We don't need to sign anyone he can tackle and put himself about and his in my opinion under rated on the ball.
Smith and Ranger up front then two wide men, frankly Bryne and Pritchard would do for me away from home.
Also Sam please ask the direct question about Spurs loanee shaving to play. Put it to be done way or the other!dreamofacleansheet2

smirg kcab wrote:
Well done smith well done ranger well done fodds
Well done cooper for noticing playing one upfront at home doesn't work,
Taxi for ward

Hope I don't get slated for this because it's not meant to be a rant. I thought Smith did as well as he could playing up front on his own and he did a lot of work chasing back, but until Byrne made way for Ranger we never looked like we would grab a win. I agree Ward never looks comfortable playing this short passing game but will give everything when defending corners set pieces etc. But my main point is when listening to the managers comments post match and earlier this week it just seems to me he is having a go at Ranger about his work rate is this just me ? I know I don't get to many away games because of work commitments, but surely this could be said of many players. To Finnish all I can say is we look a far better side with Ranger playing rather than without.

[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
Well done smith well done ranger well done fodds
Well done cooper for noticing playing one upfront at home doesn't work,
Taxi for ward[/p][/quote]Hope I don't get slated for this because it's not meant to be a rant. I thought Smith did as well as he could playing up front on his own and he did a lot of work chasing back, but until Byrne made way for Ranger we never looked like we would grab a win. I agree Ward never looks comfortable playing this short passing game but will give everything when defending corners set pieces etc. But my main point is when listening to the managers comments post match and earlier this week it just seems to me he is having a go at Ranger about his work rate is this just me ? I know I don't get to many away games because of work commitments, but surely this could be said of many players. To Finnish all I can say is we look a far better side with Ranger playing rather than without.Wickham Red

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson play him in midfield please. We don't need to sign anyone he can tackle and put himself about and his in my opinion under rated on the ball.

Smith and Ranger up front then two wide men, frankly Bryne and Pritchard would do for me away from home.

Also Sam please ask the direct question about Spurs loanee shaving to play. Put it to be done way or the other!

Surely they don't have to shave! Dreamo - lol! No back to back promotions :( and not building a statue of Coops outside the ground! Lol!

[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote:
Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson, Louis Thompson play him in midfield please. We don't need to sign anyone he can tackle and put himself about and his in my opinion under rated on the ball.
Smith and Ranger up front then two wide men, frankly Bryne and Pritchard would do for me away from home.
Also Sam please ask the direct question about Spurs loanee shaving to play. Put it to be done way or the other![/p][/quote]Surely they don't have to shave! Dreamo - lol! No back to back promotions :( and not building a statue of Coops outside the ground! Lol!The Jockster

smirg kcab wrote:
Well done smith well done ranger well done fodds
Well done cooper for noticing playing one upfront at home doesn't work,
Taxi for ward

Hope I don't get slated for this because it's not meant to be a rant. I thought Smith did as well as he could playing up front on his own and he did a lot of work chasing back, but until Byrne made way for Ranger we never looked like we would grab a win. I agree Ward never looks comfortable playing this short passing game but will give everything when defending corners set pieces etc. But my main point is when listening to the managers comments post match and earlier this week it just seems to me he is having a go at Ranger about his work rate is this just me ? I know I don't get to many away games because of work commitments, but surely this could be said of many players. To Finnish all I can say is we look a far better side with Ranger playing rather than without.

Regards to ranger, coopers post match review he still made a point of a forward not pulling his weight, I now do believe its Dany this is why the shock to get rid ASAP, he said he needs to move on to better his career, then he also said he could be in the squad Tuesday, now having many options to choose i found that statement strange.
I would also like to praise cooper for taking Byrne off as any could see it was not working and that as you said changed the game.
How we do it away is another thing, midfield too small and light weight IMO.
Really enjoyed smiths contribution and glad he was rewarded with two excellent goals, didn't know anything about the the lad, but whoever found him full marks,and I know he still has lot of work to do.
Don't agree with your ward comment as I thought he looks out of his depth when organising corners and set pieces, only my opinion and respect yours.

[quote][p][bold]Wickham Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote:
Well done smith well done ranger well done fodds
Well done cooper for noticing playing one upfront at home doesn't work,
Taxi for ward[/p][/quote]Hope I don't get slated for this because it's not meant to be a rant. I thought Smith did as well as he could playing up front on his own and he did a lot of work chasing back, but until Byrne made way for Ranger we never looked like we would grab a win. I agree Ward never looks comfortable playing this short passing game but will give everything when defending corners set pieces etc. But my main point is when listening to the managers comments post match and earlier this week it just seems to me he is having a go at Ranger about his work rate is this just me ? I know I don't get to many away games because of work commitments, but surely this could be said of many players. To Finnish all I can say is we look a far better side with Ranger playing rather than without.[/p][/quote]Regards to ranger, coopers post match review he still made a point of a forward not pulling his weight, I now do believe its Dany this is why the shock to get rid ASAP, he said he needs to move on to better his career, then he also said he could be in the squad Tuesday, now having many options to choose i found that statement strange.
I would also like to praise cooper for taking Byrne off as any could see it was not working and that as you said changed the game.
How we do it away is another thing, midfield too small and light weight IMO.
Really enjoyed smiths contribution and glad he was rewarded with two excellent goals, didn't know anything about the the lad, but whoever found him full marks,and I know he still has lot of work to do.
Don't agree with your ward comment as I thought he looks out of his depth when organising corners and set pieces, only my opinion and respect yours.smirg kcab

Any Town fan with memories of yesteryear can see that there is a need for a midfield ballwinner like Ray McHale and a central defender like Shaun Taylor before there can be serious thought of playoffs. Alas there are few or no available players at prices which STFC can afford. A midtable finish will be mission accomplished i.m.o.

Any Town fan with memories of yesteryear can see that there is a need for a midfield ballwinner like Ray McHale and a central defender like Shaun Taylor before there can be serious thought of playoffs. Alas there are few or no available players at prices which STFC can afford. A midtable finish will be mission accomplished i.m.o.umpcah

Unbelievable game yesterday, the first I've been able to make since Crewe got humbled as Mason hit 4. Unbelievable we got 3 points - a draw would have been daylight robbery but winning by 2 goals was a godsend. Some great individual performances from Wes, who was exceptional, Nathan Thompson really shielding the ball well, tracking back and getting in some timely tackles. I disagree with a few comments in here about Branco, he has pace and made one or two very timely recovery and last ditch tackles. Personally I'd love to see him alongside Troy in the middle with the two Nathan's either side of him. Mason and Harley had workmanlike performances but nothing special; Kasim and Massimo also fairly average performances. Last time I was surprised by a name being called for a substitute was Ben Tozer; and he wasn't so bad. Hopefully Reckord will be as good a player, difficult to tell from yesterday's showing but he has good feet, pace and (although not picked out) was more than willing to push forward into pockets - so could be a very positive and direct player. Smith has an appetite for goal and whilst not setting the world alight managed two instinctive finishes (the hallmark of a 20+ goal man) - also had a memorable run shouldering off a couple of defenders before putting in a really tasty cross just away for their goalie. A lot more to come from Smith I feel and could become a crowd favourite though early days I know. Man of the match (STFC) has to be Wes, for saving against Eaves on a coupe of point-blankers and that incredible finger tip flick away onto the corner of upright and crossbar but Nile's impact on the game was un deniable ; his timing for heading high balls suggests he has gills and heads upriver to spawn. Utterly majestic in the air and a rare treat at 3rd tier level but what really sets him apart is his coolness on the ball: never a rash swipe of the ball or a wild miscue. Always a select pass, shoulder off or turn and shoot. No-one else on the pitch would have had the presence to score our second goal, he was always second best to get there but got there he did. No disrespect to the shrews for our third goal as they had to go for the draw but again calm thinking from Nile gifted Smith his brace (well taken all the same). Pritchard must have run twice as far as any other town player, got in some great wide positions and angled some great through balls - clearly the pick of the 3 Spurs starlets on our books.

5 and a bit days to go and if we still have Wes, Nathan and Pritchard come 1st Feb - it'll have been a very successful transfer window for us.

Btw with Ward, Harley and McEveley looking like bench-warmers and Dany seemingly out out of favour we could be soon fielding a team no old than 23 years old - all on merit too.

My only real downside to yesterday was not seeing Louis Thompson playing. Surely the 'holding role' is tailor made for him.

My view for what it's worth is that our best team (on merit) would be:

Certainly we have other good older professionals available to us but I get the feeling that our long term management plan is to do exactly that. i.e. having the youngest team in the UK playing ball to feet.

That way we get a reputation for developing and showcasing talent as a FIRST priority - all other teams will know where to send their scouts when looking for talented young footballers. STFC then reaps the rewards and continues the cycle. We get exciting, albeit developmental, football charged full of ambition and passion and the funds we get from sales keep the club ticking over and hopefully with enough to secure some of these players for a longer term and build a little stability. I can't see that anyone over 25 figures in even a medium term business model for us. Personally I'm loving it right now.

Back to China in a few days, so sad this will be it for a while but me and my daughter had a great day out in the wind and rain at SN1 yesterday.

Unbelievable game yesterday, the first I've been able to make since Crewe got humbled as Mason hit 4. Unbelievable we got 3 points - a draw would have been daylight robbery but winning by 2 goals was a godsend. Some great individual performances from Wes, who was exceptional, Nathan Thompson really shielding the ball well, tracking back and getting in some timely tackles. I disagree with a few comments in here about Branco, he has pace and made one or two very timely recovery and last ditch tackles. Personally I'd love to see him alongside Troy in the middle with the two Nathan's either side of him. Mason and Harley had workmanlike performances but nothing special; Kasim and Massimo also fairly average performances. Last time I was surprised by a name being called for a substitute was Ben Tozer; and he wasn't so bad. Hopefully Reckord will be as good a player, difficult to tell from yesterday's showing but he has good feet, pace and (although not picked out) was more than willing to push forward into pockets - so could be a very positive and direct player. Smith has an appetite for goal and whilst not setting the world alight managed two instinctive finishes (the hallmark of a 20+ goal man) - also had a memorable run shouldering off a couple of defenders before putting in a really tasty cross just away for their goalie. A lot more to come from Smith I feel and could become a crowd favourite though early days I know. Man of the match (STFC) has to be Wes, for saving against Eaves on a coupe of point-blankers and that incredible finger tip flick away onto the corner of upright and crossbar but Nile's impact on the game was un deniable ; his timing for heading high balls suggests he has gills and heads upriver to spawn. Utterly majestic in the air and a rare treat at 3rd tier level but what really sets him apart is his coolness on the ball: never a rash swipe of the ball or a wild miscue. Always a select pass, shoulder off or turn and shoot. No-one else on the pitch would have had the presence to score our second goal, he was always second best to get there but got there he did. No disrespect to the shrews for our third goal as they had to go for the draw but again calm thinking from Nile gifted Smith his brace (well taken all the same). Pritchard must have run twice as far as any other town player, got in some great wide positions and angled some great through balls - clearly the pick of the 3 Spurs starlets on our books.
5 and a bit days to go and if we still have Wes, Nathan and Pritchard come 1st Feb - it'll have been a very successful transfer window for us.
Btw with Ward, Harley and McEveley looking like bench-warmers and Dany seemingly out out of favour we could be soon fielding a team no old than 23 years old - all on merit too.
My only real downside to yesterday was not seeing Louis Thompson playing. Surely the 'holding role' is tailor made for him.
My view for what it's worth is that our best team (on merit) would be:
Wes
Nathan Branco Troy Nathan
Pritchard Kasim Louis Luongo
Ranger Smith
Certainly we have other good older professionals available to us but I get the feeling that our long term management plan is to do exactly that. i.e. having the youngest team in the UK playing ball to feet.
That way we get a reputation for developing and showcasing talent as a FIRST priority - all other teams will know where to send their scouts when looking for talented young footballers. STFC then reaps the rewards and continues the cycle. We get exciting, albeit developmental, football charged full of ambition and passion and the funds we get from sales keep the club ticking over and hopefully with enough to secure some of these players for a longer term and build a little stability. I can't see that anyone over 25 figures in even a medium term business model for us. Personally I'm loving it right now.
Back to China in a few days, so sad this will be it for a while but me and my daughter had a great day out in the wind and rain at SN1 yesterday.Fernham Red

Newshoes84 wrote:
Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.

Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.

3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.

entirely agree with this post- spot on.

[quote][p][bold]Newshoes84[/bold] wrote:
Really enjoyed seeing Ranger and Smith play upfront together yesterday. With the players that we have though there is no way that 4-4-2 would work. As soon as Cooper made that change and went 2 up top we completely lost control of the midfield and that is when Shrewsbury really took charge as even though we were not playing well we still had an element of control up to that point.
Our midfield offer the defence no protection at all and that is not making excuses for the individual errors that Ward and Hall have made at times this season. We desperately need an experienced defensive midfielder but it may be hard to find in this window. Watching Brentford on Sky Friday it is no surprise they are top of the league as Douglas and Macca were excellent at breaking up the play and moving the ball on to the flair players quickly and giving the attacks some tempo.
3-5-2 may be the way to go with Mcevely being the left sided Centre back and Thompson and Byrne as the wingbacks. That way we keep the numbers in midfield to try and dominate position while giving more attacking options up front.[/p][/quote]entirely agree with this post- spot on.lifelong red

Jockster you're right , flipping predictive text. No shaving, having to play. I'd like a definitive answer one way or the other.

I'm also always an optimist but back to back promotions look even longer now, although generally I think Cooper is doing a good job as is Power recallibrating the club and getting a young team together. Of course it's not perfect and there's room for improvement but as other high earners depart hopeful for next year if not this. We shall see.

Jockster you're right , flipping predictive text. No shaving, having to play. I'd like a definitive answer one way or the other.
I'm also always an optimist but back to back promotions look even longer now, although generally I think Cooper is doing a good job as is Power recallibrating the club and getting a young team together. Of course it's not perfect and there's room for improvement but as other high earners depart hopeful for next year if not this. We shall see.dreamofacleansheet2

Yep Dreamo good summation of where we are, like you I'd like some definition of "having"! to play the spurs lads!seens a strange clause in the agreement especially if their performance is consistently lacking.

Yep Dreamo good summation of where we are, like you I'd like some definition of "having"! to play the spurs lads!seens a strange clause in the agreement especially if their performance is consistently lacking.The Jockster

But late to chuck my tuppence worth in but what the hell. Winning when playing poorly is often cited as the mark of a good team, however Wes really saved us. Rode our luck to another win as we did against Posh and Coventry but we will get found out at home.

Ward, sorry but another huge error which should have been punished, as they have been before. Wes again to thank, crazy giving away possession within your own 18 yard box like that.

Desperately need a player who not only offers protection to the backline but can also be the player to pick up the ball from deep and distribute, as when our defenders try and pass it so often gets us in a muddle.

A point Tuesday would be fantastic, hoping but not expecting. Have to say a win is needed next Saturday, if we can't play convincingly and beat a side like Oldham at home the. We're in big trouble.

But late to chuck my tuppence worth in but what the hell. Winning when playing poorly is often cited as the mark of a good team, however Wes really saved us. Rode our luck to another win as we did against Posh and Coventry but we will get found out at home.
Ward, sorry but another huge error which should have been punished, as they have been before. Wes again to thank, crazy giving away possession within your own 18 yard box like that.
Desperately need a player who not only offers protection to the backline but can also be the player to pick up the ball from deep and distribute, as when our defenders try and pass it so often gets us in a muddle.
A point Tuesday would be fantastic, hoping but not expecting. Have to say a win is needed next Saturday, if we can't play convincingly and beat a side like Oldham at home the. We're in big trouble.Swindon1984

well an absolutely shocking game by far the worst display this season and we play like that Tuesday night and we will get absolutely stuffed out of sight.

There was no fluidity to our game at all, no natural wide players with Ajose gone and N;guessan on his way. Shrewsbury are a very poor side and we made them look good. There are too many palyers off form and admittedly the conditions didnt help yesterday but even so i thin we would have just been just as bad whatever the weather.
Ward was absolutely shocking and imn afraid to say it has to be his last season.
Im hoping Troy will be pulled back early for Tuesday as i think we are desperate for him to come in as Walsall will be really going straight for the throat Tuesday night as they know we are poor defensively.
Luongo and Kasim are well below par at the moment and the only players who came out with any praise to me was Thompson, Wes, Smith, Ranger, Pritchard the rest were a waste of space.
We were very very lucky to win yesterday and without Ranger coming on maybe would have lost or drew.
Worryingly Ranger has his case coming up soon and if things go the wrong way we could seriously struggle.
Ideally we need Troy in and need to sign a solid Cenral midfield player as to me Luongo and Kasim are too similar.

well an absolutely shocking game by far the worst display this season and we play like that Tuesday night and we will get absolutely stuffed out of sight.
There was no fluidity to our game at all, no natural wide players with Ajose gone and N;guessan on his way. Shrewsbury are a very poor side and we made them look good. There are too many palyers off form and admittedly the conditions didnt help yesterday but even so i thin we would have just been just as bad whatever the weather.
Ward was absolutely shocking and imn afraid to say it has to be his last season.
Im hoping Troy will be pulled back early for Tuesday as i think we are desperate for him to come in as Walsall will be really going straight for the throat Tuesday night as they know we are poor defensively.
Luongo and Kasim are well below par at the moment and the only players who came out with any praise to me was Thompson, Wes, Smith, Ranger, Pritchard the rest were a waste of space.
We were very very lucky to win yesterday and without Ranger coming on maybe would have lost or drew.
Worryingly Ranger has his case coming up soon and if things go the wrong way we could seriously struggle.
Ideally we need Troy in and need to sign a solid Cenral midfield player as to me Luongo and Kasim are too similar.LeGod

Oxon-Red wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !

COYMR

Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are &quot;bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win!

Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?

Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&amp;J
oan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!!

Don careful! Oxon gets a bet tetchy if you call players by a nickname - rather strange I think since fans have been giving players nicknames for decades but hey each to their own - now we already have the Lone Ranger so how about we call Smithy Tonto! Or Ant & Dec perhaps:)

[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote:
Seems to me we are lucky sometimes but never unlucky !
COYMR[/p][/quote]Now isn't that fact, was just thinking this,quite seem to remember our lucky wins but unlucky defeats the usual reply to these defeats are "bottom line what is the score?" but never hear that when we play poor and win![/p][/quote]Ah, interesting stuff chaps. My theory on luck in football is that there is more good luck than bad. Yesterday illustrates the point. We were lucky to come up against opposition that wasted its chances but Shrewsbury were not unlucky to lose. They had only themselves to blame for missing a hatful of chances. There is also the small matter of our goalkeeper playing well - no luck involved there. Yes, the Shrews had spectacular efforts that hit the woodwork but hitting the woodwork is missing the target. You normally get what you deserve in football. We deserved to win because we took our chances and Shrewsbury wasted theirs. I'm sure the same logic can be applied to our game at Wolves. They were lucky that we missed our chances. So yes, "bottom line what is the score"?[/p][/quote]Spot on Den, we had two strikers(Wilma&J
oan)
who missed a huge amount of chances last season,that cost us a spot in the top two,miss your chances and you deserve to lose,that's football chaps!!!!![/p][/quote]Don careful! Oxon gets a bet tetchy if you call players by a nickname - rather strange I think since fans have been giving players nicknames for decades but hey each to their own - now we already have the Lone Ranger so how about we call Smithy Tonto! Or Ant & Dec perhaps:)The Jockster

It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.

When will we get rid of Ranger please?
It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.joey butler

It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.

Bit judgemental to say anyone who supports him has no integrity - chequered past sure, accused of a far more serious crime but innocent until proven guilty, one of our better players and yes, I do like watching him play and support him as a town player. If that means I have no integrity in the mind of a sanctimonious chap like yourself then so be it. He who is without sin and so forth - easy to sit in judgement on that pedestal of yours isn't it?

[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote:
When will we get rid of Ranger please?
It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.[/p][/quote]Bit judgemental to say anyone who supports him has no integrity - chequered past sure, accused of a far more serious crime but innocent until proven guilty, one of our better players and yes, I do like watching him play and support him as a town player. If that means I have no integrity in the mind of a sanctimonious chap like yourself then so be it. He who is without sin and so forth - easy to sit in judgement on that pedestal of yours isn't it?Swindon1984

It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.

That's one way to reduce the negative score joey...make a comment 2 days after the article has been printed.
Epic fail once again, just like most of your comments.
Sad, sad person.

[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote:
When will we get rid of Ranger please?
It is an absolute disgrace that Power signed him and the posters on here that support him have no integrity. Some of you will have to look that up, particularly if you cannot spell.[/p][/quote]That's one way to reduce the negative score joey...make a comment 2 days after the article has been printed.
Epic fail once again, just like most of your comments.
Sad, sad person.Oldhamred