I'm currently using Liquid Silk and it is great (water based), I guess I assumed wrong about the Silicone based stuff. It sounds like it works better, but from the sounds of it the cons outweigh the pros for me.

Guess I'll stick with Liquid silk but might give Astroglide a whirl to see what its like.

Piur if the best selling in the world, it's a little pricey but it's amazing. I use the silicone because it lasts longer and i usually go for an hour or so when I'm topping. Even after a shower my dick feels a little slick. I donn't mind because i don't need any more lube or spit to jo later. The water, like any water based lube, dries out but if you're not careful, the silicone will get EVERYWHERE. Learned that the hard way when i didn't rinse my hands off well enough and coated almost every surface in my room and bathroom in lube. Still the best lube I've used, though.

We've used Gun Oil and Wet Platinum for the longest time and they're very very decent quality silicone lubes. But, a recent discovery we've made is Uberlube. It lasts as long as the other two I've mentioned, but it's very very thin in consistency. The others last a while before needing to re-apply (45+ minutes), but they're thick.

I used silicone lube a few times, and hated it each time. I don't like the consistency, and it's pretty much impossible to wash off. One time I spilled some on the floor, and even after scrubbing vigorously with a sponge and water several times, that spot on the hardwood was still slippery. Still so slippery that when my cat went running by shortly thereafter he wiped out on that slippery spot and crashed into the wall.

As Rawdog said..."Oh, and for hot tub sex, Gun Oil is the best we've tried. " I might add or any sex in a pool, or anywhere WET.

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Found this article:
Sex has been a bestselling product since the beginning of time; nearly everyone wants it, and it seems nearly everyone is trying to sell it to you bigger, better, stronger, longer, faster, or glow-in-the-dark.

Having options in your sex life is fantastic, but at what point do the products you’re being sold just become unnatural? And at what point does unnatural become unhealthy? …And does it become unhealthy, or is that just a hyperbolic, loudly speaking page out of bestselling narrative, The Soapbox Diaries, by Granol A. Cruncher?

To figure this all out, let’s start by examining some not-so-nice additives and ingredients found in many popular lubes.
Petroleum and silicone oils are two ingredients very commonly found in personal lubricant; ironically, it turns out they’re also sexual “no-no’s”. Each of them can form an undesirable layer of coating on the skin, unnaturally sealing in pores and inhibiting the skin’s ability to “breathe”. Additionally, this tendency to make the lube gum up not only makes it difficult to wash off of the skin, but it can also present problems when using sex toys.

Silicone lubricant can react poorly to toys made of a similar material, actually eroding, or “melting” the toy. This process makes it harder to clean, and just think of what type of toxins a synthetic, melting sex toy could be releasing into your body.

When it comes to a general sense of sexual discomfort, it turns out there are a few more shady, but common culprits stowed away in your bedside drawer. The controversial Nonoxynol-9 is just one criminal chemical irritant capable of creating micro-tears in sensitive tissue, and increasing HIV transmission rates.

Dr. Laurie Steelsmith, licensed naturopathic physician and well known author, tells us that chlorhexidine and propylene glycol are also present in many lubes, and have been found to frequently upset some women by causing agitation and burning sensations in sensitive tissue areas.

This leads us to the next question you may want to consider if you’re planning to continue using unnatural lubrication products: on a scale of one to ten, how much do you savor a good yeast infection?

If you registered a 10, then by all means, carry on; if not, it may be useful to know that glycerin, glucose, and other sugars are frequently found in common lubricants.

If you’re not into yeast infections, it’s probably safe to assume that cancer doesn’t give you the hots, either. Many unnatural lubes contain parabens, which are man-made preservatives that can simulate estrogen, and that have been associated with breast cancer. These little nightmares are capable of being quickly absorbed right through the skin.

…Anyone remember when sex was a healthy enterprise?

Now, for comparison, let’s consider natural personal lubrication products, such as those offered by Coconu. While I could spread the word about the tactile superiority of natural lubes all day long, the point of this post is to unearth and illuminate solid information about the ingredients, and possible health impact, of each product.

In order to keep the comparison simple- and because there are more than a few product lines out there masquerading as “natural” and “organic”- I will just compare unnatural lubricants to those of the Coconu brand.

In the case of synthetic lubricants, I had to consult ingredient lists and pick just a few sketchy, chemical characters to expose in order to keep the discussion within manageable parameters; conversely, after reviewing the ingredients comprising Coconu products, I am immediately at a loss for something alarming to highlight.

It is a short list, and I recognize literally every component. (How often can you say that about a product?) What’s more is that- to my surprise and delight- I’ve already independently used the vast majority of the ingredients listed as things such as natural skin moisturizers.

Coconu natural lubricants contain no petroleum, silicone oils, Nonoxynol-9, chlorhexidine, propylene glycol, glycerin, or parabens. As if that doesn’t instantly quash any argument claiming equality between the two products, coconut oil and coconut water are chief ingredients of Coconu products. In addition to being a top notch lube, coconut oil has natural antiviral, antifungal, and antibacterial properties. The take-away point there is that not only is it not going to increase your risk of developing a yeast infection, but there is a strong argument, (and countless testimonials), that it will actively act as a preventative against yeast-related issues.

In the convenience department, Coconu natural products will not melt your sex toys, and will not develop an alarming gum layer on the skin; on the contrary, thanks to the natural coconut oil, it could only be beneficial.

So, in summation: I’m feeling pretty confident saying that the point at which the sex products you’re using become unnatural is the point at which they start eating away your sex toys… by themselves. The point at which unnatural becomes unhealthy is… frankly, a joke, if you’ve already reached the point at which your lube’s melting things. (But if that’s not convincing enough for you, refer to the bit about cancer.) And, yes… yes, there most definitely is a point at which your unnatural sex products cross a line, and go from turning you on, to turning on you!

…But on the bright side… you’re in the right place to find an alternative!

Water based for speed and Albolene for control
I like having a cup of warm water next to my water based lube. Bc water lube dries up and gets tacky. A little water can wake up water based lube 2-3
Times before reapplication

Lorn of Goon, never thought to put water next to the bed. I'll have to try that sometime.

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Grape seed oil is the best. I bareback, so don't know how compatible it is with condoms and toys. But, its actually recommended for keeping a healthy vagina. It has something to do with the ph levels. Get the organic medical grade. Its available at most health food stores. Its actually used as a massage oil. She'll love it. Wipes way clean. Its great for the skin. Can also massage her with it.