Quote lulujaz: Katie has no business running a business, unless its a daycare center. She is running SP into the ground. Karen put her in charge to get back at Bill, another bad decision. Remember when she ran Forreater for a hot minute when Bill had controlling interest, before Steffy duped him out of it. she had Donna and Brooke dressed up like Grecian goddesses. That's when the disastrous HFTF was born, inspired by an immature naive little nit wit. Who ties morality with a fashion line anyway?

Eric can run his company how he sees fit. Katie had no right confronting him. She needs to be worried about SP. Donna is right. Vindictive little Katie is the most miserable "in love" person. She makes me sick when she says "Ridge and I are in love". So go home and be "in love" already and leave the business to the big dogs. Vendetta or not, Brooke is right about this one. Bill needs to be back in charge. Morale will really be low if SP goes belly up.

Brooke was right when she said Katie is on a big power trip. And going to see Erick and demand he give Ridge what he wants? Rather demeaning to Ridge it seems? If she looses her position in the company she can go home, take care of her baby and enjoy her time with Ridge. When Ridge finds out how demanding she can be, it may be a very short relationship?

Eric, Stephanie and Ridge are the cornerstone of Forrester Creations. They are the strength and solidarity of purpose and continuing thread that have kept it number one in the fashion business.Their couture line persists in being what Forrester's reputation stand high on.Brooke's Bedroom, Belief, HFTF will come and go and there will always be another offshoot to rescue it when times get tough financially. Why times get tough is something that beats me. The couture line has always been a grand seller.What if Forrester had changed its image to become Brooke's Bedroom, or changed its image to become Belief?????Those things are long gone but couture keeps on keeping on.It underpins the continuity of Forrester. It is where Forrester has real excellence and superiority. HFTF has caught the imagination at the moment as Brooke's Bedroom did in its day. But it does not have the excellence that Eric and Ridge have a talent for - Carolyn knows she is not up to Ridge and Eric standards yet. She has a way to go for that. That is what Ridge knows form all the fall out over the years. That is why he is trying to retain their reputation base and make HFTF a Forrester line and not allow couture to become just a HFTF line. Couture does not need publicity stunts. It is just the best of its kind available so it is where those discerning customers will always come.Who will Forrester be when the HFTF line has had its day??? Brooke's Bedroom, Belief, HFTF gained a great deal of their success because it was Forrester that introduced them to the world. So far HFTF has been revitalized by Publicity stunts. How long will that keep going?

Quote Msbutterfly58: Katie went to Eric firstBrooke is only reacting to Katie trying to get Eric to fire her. If Katie can dish it out, she should be able to take it. She playing in the big league. I can't understand why it's ok for Katie to ask Eric to get rid of Brooke, but it's not ok for Brooke to ask Karen to fire Katie. Brooke did try to be friendly with Katie, but Katie wants Brooke to be alone. That is why Brooke decided to start back seeing Bill. Both of them should be happy now. They have each others husband. If Katie stop pushing, Brooke will too.

If Katie don't want Brooke working with Ridge she should encourage Ridge to quit, not Brooke.

Katie went to Eric because Eric is trying to play matchmaker by trying to put Brooke and Ridge back together. She was calling him on his blatant attempt to destroy her relationship with Ridge. I do not recall Katie specifically asking Eric to fire Brooke. Yes I remember her telling Brooke that she should turn down the offer.

If Ridge was to turn down the Co-VP position where would he go? What would Ridge do? Some have suggested that he start his own company but this is a lot easier to say than to do. Ridge I guess could become Bill and sit around whinning that Brooke took away his job because she convinced Eric to support Rick over him. Katie did not have to convince Karen to support her over Bill because it was Karen that used Katie to get control of SP. People keep forgetting that Katie did offer Bill a position at SP but he turned it down because it was not the CEO position.

maybe bill will do Katie the same favor and offer her a position in the mailroom or that nursery she's so proud of. but I doubt it since he goes straight in and tells her to get her butt out. did she offer him a position before or after she called the security guard to escort him out?

Quote Msbutterfly58: Katie went to Eric firstBrooke is only reacting to Katie trying to get Eric to fire her. If Katie can dish it out, she should be able to take it. She playing in the big league. I can't understand why it's ok for Katie to ask Eric to get rid of Brooke, but it's not ok for Brooke to ask Karen to fire Katie. Brooke did try to be friendly with Katie, but Katie wants Brooke to be alone. That is why Brooke decided to start back seeing Bill. Both of them should be happy now. They have each others husband. If Katie stop pushing, Brooke will too.

If Katie don't want Brooke working with Ridge she should encourage Ridge to quit, not Brooke.

Katie went to Eric because Eric is trying to play matchmaker by trying to put Brooke and Ridge back together. She was calling him on his blatant attempt to destroy her relationship with Ridge. I do not recall Katie specifically asking Eric to fire Brooke. Yes I remember her telling Brooke that she should turn down the offer.

If Ridge was to turn down the Co-VP position where would he go? What would Ridge do? Some have suggested that he start his own company but this is a lot easier to say than to do. Ridge I guess could become Bill and sit around whinning that Brooke took away his job because she convinced Eric to support Rick over him. Katie did not have to convince Karen to support her over Bill because it was Karen that used Katie to get control of SP. People keep forgetting that Katie did offer Bill a position at SP but he turned it down because it was not the CEO position.

Where would Ridge go? Wherever he's been for over a year? Traveling around Europe finding himself, not being at FI, because Steffy said she didn't see him, and she HAS been at work. Ridge could have stayed at FC, but not as co-vice president. He could be head designer or whatever position he has now, he could have Thorne's old job in the basement. He had other options, he chose to work with Brooke.

Yes, Karen gave the position of CEO to Katie to stick it to Bill, it was personal decision Just like Eric offered the job of CEO to Ridge, it was a personal decision, not a business one.

I do not remember Katie asking Ridge to turn down the position, only Brooke. Why not Ridge? He turned down the position of CEO for Katie why not turn down the position of co-vice president? Why did Katie even ask Brooke? It is not Brooke's job to make Katie feel secure in Katie and Ridge's relationship. That's Ridge's job. Since one of Katie's whines about Brooke to Ridge was she acts differently around you than she does when you're not around, I guess she's not being a hypocrite and acting the same angry, vindictive, bitter person around Ridge that she is to others. Why wouldn't Ridge do what he could, and that means turning down the job, to make Katie feel secure?

You're right Bill did turn down the job Katie offered him. I guess Bill meant it when he said he won't work for her. Ridge however, with his remarks to Rick telling him that he won't answer to Rick as president, was just talking his big talk. I won't answer to Rick, but I'll be a co-vice president answering to Rick.

Katie and Ridge are perfect hypocrites together. As long as they have their mutual dislike/hatred/disgust of Brooke to keep them together.

I don't think either Ridge or Katie hate Brooke, I think both are disgusted with her. And if there ever was a hypocrite it would be Brooke.

Quote Houston777: I don't think either Ridge or Katie hate Brooke, I think both are disgusted with her. And if there ever was a hypocrite it would be Brooke.

Katie is angry. She even stated she has the right to be angry. But when Donna asked her why since she is in love with Ridge and he with her, Katie couldn't really answer.

Brooke may be a hypocrite, but if she is she's not the only one.Katie is also a hypocrite. It's unforgiveable that one sister can do that to another, it's almost criminal. But it's okay now that she's doing it. It's sick for Will to be around his dad and aunt but RJ and Ridge are welcome to move in with her. I'm not your little sister, but destroy those papers to take care of me.

And Ridge what to say about Ridge let me sneak into my brothers bed while he is downstairs and sleep with his wife. Does that sound like someone who could ever look down on someone who slept with her sister's husband? But yet, Ridge did it and then he tries to look down on Brooke for sleeping with Bill? Maybe we were supposed to have forgotten that Ridge did that? Or perhaps we were supposed to forget that Ridge slept with Morgan while married to Taylor and got her pregnant. Or perhaps we are supposed to overlook that Ridge made out with the woman that he once thought was his sister/daughter. Or that Ridge did sleep with his father's wife? Those are just some of the things that Ridge has done which should mean that he is no position to look down on anyone. At least Brooke never framed an innocent man for a crime she committed.

But I don't feel that Ridge is angry. His ego won't let him believe that Brooke has moved on from him yet. How did he put it? If I called, Brooke would have kicked you out of bed so fast. When he finds out that yes Brooke has moved on that's when once again he'll start with his Logan again. And according to spoilers chase her to what country was that again? supposedly so that Bill won't become stepfather to RJ.

Quote Houston777: I don't think either Ridge or Katie hate Brooke, I think both are disgusted with her. And if there ever was a hypocrite it would be Brooke.

Katie is angry. She even stated she has the right to be angry. But when Donna asked her why since she is in love with Ridge and he with her, Katie couldn't really answer.

Brooke may be a hypocrite, but if she is she's not the only one.Katie is also a hypocrite. It's unforgiveable that one sister can do that to another, it's almost criminal. But it's okay now that she's doing it. It's sick for Will to be around his dad and aunt but RJ and Ridge are welcome to move in with her. I'm not your little sister, but destroy those papers to take care of me.

And Ridge what to say about Ridge let me sneak into my brothers bed while he is downstairs and sleep with his wife. Does that sound like someone who could ever look down on someone who slept with her sister's husband? But yet, Ridge did it and then he tries to look down on Brooke for sleeping with Bill? Maybe we were supposed to have forgotten that Ridge did that? Or perhaps we were supposed to forget that Ridge slept with Morgan while married to Taylor and got her pregnant. Or perhaps we are supposed to overlook that Ridge made out with the woman that he once thought was his sister/daughter. Or that Ridge did sleep with his father's wife? Those are just some of the things that Ridge has done which should mean that he is no position to look down on anyone. At least Brooke never framed an innocent man for a crime she committed.

But I don't feel that Ridge is angry. His ego won't let him believe that Brooke has moved on from him yet. How did he put it? If I called, Brooke would have kicked you out of bed so fast. When he finds out that yes Brooke has moved on that's when once again he'll start with his Logan again. And according to spoilers chase her to what country was that again? supposedly so that Bill won't become stepfather to RJ.

I didn't say that Katie was not angry because of course she was but I do think you can be angry and not hate at the same time. what I said was katie and ridge did not hate Brooke but were disgusted with her.

Quote Houston777: I didn't say that Katie was not angry because of course she was but I do think you can be angry and not hate at the same time. what I said was katie and ridge did not hate Brooke but were disgusted with her.

I did kind of confuse anger and hatred didn't I? *) But I still don't see how they can be disgusted with her without being disgusted by their own behavior as well.

But sometimes I think when Ridge looks at Brooke he sees so many of the mistakes that he has made. He would like to forget the things he has done and pretend they never happened. Katie wasn't around when he did most of his dirt and she believes that he is a good and honorable man. Brooke knows better. She know what he has done and what he is capable of. Ridge can't fool himself into believing he is that good and honorable man around Brooke. If Ridge is disgusted by Brooke he is just as disgusted with himself.

Houston 777- I agree with you 100%- Katie even brings up that she loves Brooke. But doesn't trust her motives.

Katie is angry, and she has every right to be. A year ago Katie was married with a newborn and the months that followed had Brooke sleeping with her husband.

It doesn't even make any difference anymore who did what, and when they did it. Her family never had a chance to bond together like it should have. Katie lost it before it was ever really solid. And for all that time,(a year??) Katie has went about her life alone, and trying to rebuild.

Who came into her life but Ridge. Whether it is right of wrong they spent time together. (I can't figure out why he is considered Brookes husband because they have not been legally married for years) But Brooke consider Ridges hers also. The most I have seen Ridge and Brooke do is Brooke playing footies under the table. I never seen them even in bed together.

Ridge cares for Brooke but at this time in his life, he just seems like he doesn't want to be part of whatever Brooke is up too. He doesn't bad mouth her he just says he with Katie now.

The vendetta Bill has shouldn't be with Katie, If Brooke and Bill have a vendetta it should be with Karen. Karen is the boss, and she makes the decisions. Katie has a job, and works under her.

For Brooke the point isn't fire Katie she is bad, it's she took Ridge I'm mad and I want you to fire Katie, to bad Bill hasn't figured out he is not the center of why Brooke is doing this, it is Ridge. I for one wonder what Bills reaction to Brooke will be when he does figure it out. Hope it isn't too far down the road.

Quote june65: Houston 777- I agree with you 100%- Katie even brings up that she loves Brooke. But doesn't trust her motives.

Katie is angry, and she has every right to be. A year ago Katie was married with a newborn and the months that followed had Brooke sleeping with her husband.

It doesn't even make any difference anymore who did what, and when they did it. Her family never had a chance to bond together like it should have. Katie lost it before it was ever really solid. And for all that time,

year??) Katie has went about her life alone, and trying to rebuild.

Who came into her life but Ridge. Whether it is right of wrong they spent time together. (I can't figure out why he is considered Brookes husband because they have not been legally married for years) But Brooke consider Ridges hers also. The most I have seen Ridge and Brooke do is Brooke playing footies under the table. I never seen them even in bed together.

Ridge cares for Brooke but at this time in his life, he just seems like he doesn't want to be part of whatever Brooke is up too. He doesn't bad mouth her he just says he with Katie now

The vendetta Bill has shouldn't be with Katie, If Brooke and Bill have a vendetta it should be with Karen. Karen is the boss, and she makes the decisions. Katie has a job, and works under her.

For Brooke the point isn't fire Katie she is bad, it's she took Ridge I'm mad and I want you to fire Katie, to bad Bill hasn't figured out he is not the center of why Brooke is doing this, it is Ridge. I for one wonder what Bills reaction to Brooke will be when he does figure it out. Hope it isn't too far down the road.

Brooke asking Karen to fire Katie from SP has nothing to do with Ridge and Katie being together. It has all to do with the reality that Katie has no right to have taken Bills company in the first place and now that she had developed this stank azz attitude she need to go!

Although Brooke, should stay out of it, I think if I were Brooke after dealing with Katies holier than though demeanor, it would be very difficult for me not to use any ammunition that I possess to humble Katie.