Is it possible he walks? These profiles look like the prosecution got schooled.

Not sure what you mean, jb. Associations with PSU...or what? From everything I hear, anyone associated with the university hates Sandusky's guts and wants to see him fry.

Hearing some talk about the possibility of a plea bargain...even before opening arguments begin. It would save a lot of the victims from having their identities disclosed...but would also prevent them from whatever closure or satisfaction might be the result of their venting of their stories.

Not sure how much it matters, as long as the SOB never again sees the light of day...and assuming it would require a guilty plea on some or all of the worst of the charges. Haven't read a lot about it lately, but hear that feds are now involved too, since Victim #4 has confirmed that he was taken (across state lines) to a bowl game for the purpose of having sex with him.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

Is it possible he walks? These profiles look like the prosecution got schooled.

Not sure what you mean, jb. Associations with PSU...or what? From everything I hear, anyone associated with the university hates Sandusky's guts and wants to see him fry.

Hearing some talk about the possibility of a plea bargain...even before opening arguments begin. It would save a lot of the victims from having their identities disclosed...but would also prevent them from whatever closure or satisfaction might be the result of their venting of their stories.

Not sure how much it matters, as long as the SOB never again sees the light of day...and assuming it would require a guilty plea on some or all of the worst of the charges. Haven't read a lot about it lately, but hear that feds are now involved too, since Victim #4 has confirmed that he was taken (across state lines) to a bowl game for the purpose of having sex with him.

Criminal trial. They only need one disseter. I can see a few friendly jurors profiles.

danwismar wrote:From everything I hear, anyone associated with the university hates Sandusky's guts and wants to see him fry.

This times ten trillion.

If you aren't one of the shit ass OSU fans that ruin the rep for the rest of us you would get this.

PSU Fan and Administration was more hurt by this whole thing than anyone outside of the victims.

JB just is a troll.

Easy tiger. Back off my man jb. He doesn't have anything to prove to anyone as to his OSU fanhood, which is long established around here. He made an observation about the juror profiles that he was concerned they might be overly sympathetic with the defendant. I for one share his concern. The last thing any of us want is to see the scumbag walk.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

The best part of all of this is me being called an asshole for calling out OSU fans marching for Tressel (who cheated and admitted it) and then OSU fans calling out PSU fans for holding vigils for a coach that did more for his university and community than Tressel could have even imagined doing at OSU.

They both were great men that had their supporters that went down with them, respecting the good they did and ignoring the bad.

I don't care to debate which disgraced coach did more for his university community, but I do object to drawing some sort of moral equivalence between a guy who failed to report minor NCAA violations by players and a guy who enabled a known child molester to rack up additional victims for more than a decade. Light years apart.

I have always understood the word "hypocrite" to mean someone who advocates or demands a certain level of behavior of others that he makes no attempt to live up to himself. How that standard applies to "OSU fans" broadly defined is beyond me. Maybe you could also define what you mean by "troll". That would be helpful.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

Many people here do. Sometimes to get a reaction (like CDT's butt hurt response above), sometimes to get conversations started or rolling, sometimes to be a dick (guilty).

It's another club in the board bag

But you better bring something more than that or you're not going to last.

I'd define it smply as saying something you may or may not totally believe but with the express purpose of getting a reaction from the people who read it as opposed to engaging in a conversation or stating fact and well-formed opinion.

Many people here do. Sometimes to get a reaction (like CDT's butt hurt response above), sometimes to get conversations started or rolling, sometimes to be a dick (guilty).

It's another club in the board bag

But you better bring something more than that or you're not going to last.

I'd define it smply as saying something you may or may not totally believe but with the express purpose of getting a reaction from the people who read it as opposed to engaging in a conversation or stating fact and well-formed opinion.

So there's that

And every board needs an idiot clown who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Don't take me so personally Dan, you didn't March and you aren't saying ridiculous JB troll things about Paterno and PSU. also, when we see an email from Joe Pa covering and allowing Sandusky to fuck boys I will listen to the Tressel is a saint shit. BTW: bo college coach ever has done more for a university and community than Joe Pa for happy valley

e0y2e3 wrote:Don't take me so personally Dan, you didn't March and you aren't saying ridiculous JB troll things about Paterno and PSU. also, when we see an email from Joe Pa covering and allowing Sandusky to fuck boys I will listen to the Tressel is a saint shit. BTW: bo college coach ever has done more for a university and community than Joe Pa for happy valley

This is, of course, ridiculous on many levels.

But at least we now know that you are out as a fan boi.

Only the most naive person on the planet doesn't believe Paterno knew on some level of some specificity that Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile. Miminally, either he is a liar, or McCreary is. That should be documented by trial's end.

And Knute Rockne laughs in his grave, for one. So does Crysler.

Rip Engel had very good records until his last 2 seasons at PSU and it's not like Pennsylvania is a big football state culturally or anything, right? Only a Paterno could have made football important at Penn State.

e0y2e3 wrote:Don't take me so personally Dan, you didn't March and you aren't saying ridiculous JB troll things about Paterno and PSU. also, when we see an email from Joe Pa covering and allowing Sandusky to fuck boys I will listen to the Tressel is a saint shit. BTW: bo college coach ever has done more for a university and community than Joe Pa for happy valley

Not to worry. I wasn't feeling the need to defend myself...just reacting to your broad statement about OSU fans...as if the fans who marched for Tressel were the same ones who criticized JoPa's marchers. Those two sets of "fans" might overlap slightly...but only slightly I'd guess. That's all. It's my same "broad brush" club that I'm constantly hitting Peeker over the head with, (and that he can now recite by heart because I have beaten that dead horse so mercilessly) (emoticon moment here)

I react badly to all statements that start out with "OSU fans are....." because it's just silly, not because I mistakenly think they're talking about me.

And we don't need to see an incriminating email to know two things: a) Joe knew in 1998 what Sandusky was...and b) he didn't do anything about it, and allowed him ongoing access to PSU facilities

If that's unfairly jumping to conclusions, then I plead guilty, and will own up later if I'm wrong.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

It is my fervent hope that it doesn't come to that, sir. But it's comforting to know it in the meantime.

This I know: The moment that spiders grow wings I'm packing up the family and heading toward central Ohio. In the event of the flying zombie spider apocalypse, fuck Rick Grimes, CDT is Woody Harrelson.

Holy shit is this trial going poorly for Sandusky, looks like he may be enjoying some more shower time with men in the near future. Strangely, I suspect that he will not be on top in the wrestling match.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Holy shit is this trial going poorly for Sandusky, looks like he may be enjoying some more shower time with men in the near future. Strangely, I suspect that he will not be on top in the wrestling match.

He'll be dead within two weeks if he is put in Gen Pop. He'll be in isolation. Should be put on death row, IMHO. Sickening.

furls wrote:Holy shit is this trial going poorly for Sandusky, looks like he may be enjoying some more shower time with men in the near future. Strangely, I suspect that he will not be on top in the wrestling match.

He'll be dead within two weeks if he is put in Gen Pop. He'll be in isolation. Should be put on death row, IMHO. Sickening.

He'll definitely be in PC. The prison could get sued if he was assaulted or killed.

FUDU wrote:McQueary replied: "If (you) want to argue about 9, 10, 11, 12 ... the fact is he had sex with a minor, a boy."

Damn, I mean how do you not pack up your brief case and go home after that.

Outside of being too much of a sissy to stop what he saw, this is where Mc-Queer-y failed

That is not what he said to Paterno

In any event, hatas gonna hate and like it or not, they're moving forward

Right now, I hate not only that red headed Queery, I especially hate that faggoty ass pussy Jay Paterno

If it was up to me, I'd string Sandusky up, bash his ribs with a baseball bat so he feels some pain, then strap him over a pummel horse and ass rape him with a Louisville Slugger till he bleeds to death....

Maybe a few razor cuts and a couple lbs of salt, a rat to gnaw on his balls and an ice pick in his ears for shits 'n giggles

I hate pedos...they are the worst society has to offer and I wish them nothing but a long lasting painfull death...

Hope is a moment now long pastThe Shadow of Death is the one I castKoo koo ka joob....I am the Walrus

FUDU wrote:McQueary replied: "If (you) want to argue about 9, 10, 11, 12 ... the fact is he had sex with a minor, a boy."

Damn, I mean how do you not pack up your brief case and go home after that.

Outside of being too much of a sissy to stop what he saw, this is where Mc-Queer-y failed

That is not what he said to Paterno

In any event, hatas gonna hate and like it or not, they're moving forward

Right now, I hate not only that red headed Queery, I especially hate that faggoty ass pussy Jay Paterno

If it was up to me, I'd string Sandusky up, bash his ribs with a baseball bat so he feels some pain, then strap him over a pummel horse and ass rape him with a Louisville Slugger till he bleeds to death....

Maybe a few razor cuts and a couple lbs of salt, a rat to gnaw on his balls and an ice pick in his ears for shits 'n giggles

I hate pedos...they are the worst society has to offer and I wish them nothing but a long lasting painfull death...

Yeah that's the thing, McQueery is probably going to look like the hero to most, but reality is he messed up big, in real time. For his sake I hope he mans up about it and finds some closure, that type of thing can eat a man alive. He does not carry a clean slate in all this, and I agree on JoPa. It's looking more & more obvious he had a dirty little with him for quite some time.

Also it looks more and more like the only question left is, was it 50 people that knew about this or more like 300.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

FUDU wrote:McQueary replied: "If (you) want to argue about 9, 10, 11, 12 ... the fact is he had sex with a minor, a boy."

Damn, I mean how do you not pack up your brief case and go home after that.

Outside of being too much of a sissy to stop what he saw, this is where Mc-Queer-y failed

That is not what he said to Paterno

In any event, hatas gonna hate and like it or not, they're moving forward

Right now, I hate not only that red headed Queery, I especially hate that faggoty ass pussy Jay Paterno

If it was up to me, I'd string Sandusky up, bash his ribs with a baseball bat so he feels some pain, then strap him over a pummel horse and ass rape him with a Louisville Slugger till he bleeds to death....

Maybe a few razor cuts and a couple lbs of salt, a rat to gnaw on his balls and an ice pick in his ears for shits 'n giggles

I hate pedos...they are the worst society has to offer and I wish them nothing but a long lasting painfull death...

Yes, you can make the argument that a pedo is worse than a murderer. There are degrees of murder that are justifiable, if not acceptable in many's eyes. There are no degrees of justifiable and agreeable sexual abuse against a child. Not one.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Murder is worse, simply because that person is gone forever. This is common sense shit.

And FTR before some cunt says i'm defending pedos, i'm not, i'm just saying it's not on par with murder. Which is common sense. I hope Sandusky gets put in general population, but he won't because a prison is required to protect inmates the best they can. Which means PC.