The UKIP candidate fighting the Eastleigh by-election said today Romanians were associated with crime and called for a temporary halt to all immigration.

Diane James was in the Hampshire constituency for a rally with supporters aided by UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Ms James, from Ewhurst in Surrey, said: ''Immigration is the elephant in the room that the other parties want not to address because they are heavily reliant on unrestricted immigration.''

When asked what she meant, Ms James said: ''Because in the last few years immigrants have settled in areas where there are a large number of Labour voters.

''On the 1st of January 2014 the floodgates will open for Bulgarian and Romanian citizens (to come to Britain),'' she continued.

''We are not just talking about pressure on services from immigration but also, and I have to say it, the crime associated with Romanians.

''One of the problems with the Olympics last year was the Metropolitan Police having to deal with Romanian criminal gangs pick-pocketing.''

She said that unrestricted immigration was an issue for the country.

''Until we sort out the UK Border Agency and make it fit for purpose, the only way is a moratorium on immigration.''

Ms James sits as an independent councillor on Waverley Borough Council in Surrey because she said she feels that party politics should not exist at that level.

She explained she wanted to make history by becoming the first ever UKIP MP and her election would send a very clear message to the three major parties about their broken promises.

She also said that not living in the constituency was not a problem.

''I know Eastleigh well. I used to work down here in the pharmaceutical industry, I have friends and family down here and I fly from the airport two or three times a year - it's an area I know.''

Mr Farage said his party was starting the campaign with 16% of the vote and that the figures showed the party was taking votes from Labour and the Liberal Democrats.

''One myth is that we just take votes from the Conservatives, we don't. We are going to fight this campaign hard,'' he said.

On immigration, Mr Farage said he had ''absolutely nothing'' against the 29 million people that will be able to leave Bulgaria and Romania next year but there should not be an open door policy for them.

He added that immigrants should only be given benefits if they have lived in Britain for five years, have paid their taxes and have obeyed the law.

UKIP are expecting to do well in the February 28 poll sparked by Lib Dem MP Chris Huhne standing down after pleading guilty to perverting the course of justice.

All the major parties have now selected their candidates except Labour who will do so today.

The contest is likely to be a close one between the Lib Dems and the Tories.

Mr Huhne held the seat in the 2010 general election with a majority of 3,864.

Comments (150)

You can't blame the Romanians or Bulgarians for wanting to come here they are so poor that they should never have been accepted into the E.U. Poland was poor before the E.U. pumped millions into it but Poland was wealthy in comparison, so the E.U. will pump millions into Romania and Bulgaria and then it will be Turkey's turn, although we are already helping Turkey giving them our jobs and paying them for the privilege. The U.K. will become the new Bulgaria if we do not break away from the E.U.

You can't blame the Romanians or Bulgarians for wanting to come here they are so poor that they should never have been accepted into the E.U. Poland was poor before the E.U. pumped millions into it but Poland was wealthy in comparison, so the E.U. will pump millions into Romania and Bulgaria and then it will be Turkey's turn, although we are already helping Turkey giving them our jobs and paying them for the privilege. The U.K. will become the new Bulgaria if we do not break away from the E.U.ohec

ohec wrote:
You can't blame the Romanians or Bulgarians for wanting to come here they are so poor that they should never have been accepted into the E.U. Poland was poor before the E.U. pumped millions into it but Poland was wealthy in comparison, so the E.U. will pump millions into Romania and Bulgaria and then it will be Turkey's turn, although we are already helping Turkey giving them our jobs and paying them for the privilege. The U.K. will become the new Bulgaria if we do not break away from the E.U.

[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote:
You can't blame the Romanians or Bulgarians for wanting to come here they are so poor that they should never have been accepted into the E.U. Poland was poor before the E.U. pumped millions into it but Poland was wealthy in comparison, so the E.U. will pump millions into Romania and Bulgaria and then it will be Turkey's turn, although we are already helping Turkey giving them our jobs and paying them for the privilege. The U.K. will become the new Bulgaria if we do not break away from the E.U.[/p][/quote]The new Bulgaria? cool, cheap booze/fags, plenty of prostitutes, corruption, **** fighting...Im in.bigfella777

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment

[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]either way we should shut the door until we have no unemploymentlikewatchingbrazil

HorndeanSaint wrote:
Si Chris Huhne took a hit for a parking fine did he? Sloppy reporting again Echo.

The story was written by the Press Association, according to the name at the top.

[quote][p][bold]HorndeanSaint[/bold] wrote:
Si Chris Huhne took a hit for a parking fine did he? Sloppy reporting again Echo.[/p][/quote]The story was written by the Press Association, according to the name at the top.Ciaran

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.Inform Al

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

Why don't you try something new, like telling the truth.

[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]Why don't you try something new, like telling the truth.Inform Al

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment

Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?

These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).

[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment[/p][/quote]Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?
These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).Ciaran

In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.

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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.

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http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf

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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame

Fluoridation X-Files.. Podcast: Ireland/UK Livestock (meat/offal/bone) with skeletal fluorosis sold for human consumption.
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That's according to a Vet visiting an Abattoir/Slaughterho
use.
Skip to 1:14:40.. Ireland/UK Livestock can drink up to 20 gallons of Fluoridated water a day.
Skip to 1:22:30.. MP Tessa Jowell hears no testing for Fluoride Contamination.
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Podcast:
http://tinyurl.com/b
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Podcast:
http://media48.podbe
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We learn today from UK Scientists that Ireland/UK/Romanian Horse (offal/bone) meat maybe substandard.
In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.
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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.
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http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf
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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
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http://ec.europa.eu/
environment/integrat
ion/research/newsale
rt/pdf/297na1.pdf
I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blameDan Soton

The people of Eastliegh should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly. The immigration minister refused to say how many might be coming after being asked on no less than four occasions yesterday. His reasons for not saying was that he did not want to scare the public. I think its time to get worried and vote UKIP don't you. The goverment are pretending that they can deny benefits to all these new immigrants, well they cannot under EU and Human Rights law so don't believe a word of this properganda. Your benefits have already been cut to help pay any benefits these immigrants claim like. Child allowance, housing benefits tax credits job seekers not to mention free treatment on the overloaded NHS and free education in our overflowing schools. We will no doubt be oblidged to provide interpreters in these services as well.
Remember this when granny is forced to sell her home to pay for care after a lifetimes conrtibutions to the state

The people of Eastliegh should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly. The immigration minister refused to say how many might be coming after being asked on no less than four occasions yesterday. His reasons for not saying was that he did not want to scare the public. I think its time to get worried and vote UKIP don't you. The goverment are pretending that they can deny benefits to all these new immigrants, well they cannot under EU and Human Rights law so don't believe a word of this properganda. Your benefits have already been cut to help pay any benefits these immigrants claim like. Child allowance, housing benefits tax credits job seekers not to mention free treatment on the overloaded NHS and free education in our overflowing schools. We will no doubt be oblidged to provide interpreters in these services as well.
Remember this when granny is forced to sell her home to pay for care after a lifetimes conrtibutions to the stateroy may

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.elvisimo

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies?

No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies?
No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?st1halo

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment

Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?

These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).

'Statistically negligible' being the operative words.
Now add to that all the eastern europeans just waiting to come here.

If we don't get out of Europe, we will be finished.

[quote][p][bold]Ciaran[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment[/p][/quote]Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?
These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).[/p][/quote]'Statistically negligible' being the operative words.
Now add to that all the eastern europeans just waiting to come here.
If we don't get out of Europe, we will be finished.st1halo

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward.

We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them.

They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for.

I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward.
We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them.
They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for.
I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.elvisimo

A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.CharlieOxbridge

look a liitle further and dig a little deeper as to the benefits fo Britains membership of the EU.

Dont get sidelined by a supossed threat of thousands of scary suitcase carrying Romanians waiting at their border for the word go.

[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote:
Get out of Europe now before it's to late.[/p][/quote]look a liitle further and dig a little deeper as to the benefits fo Britains membership of the EU.
Dont get sidelined by a supossed threat of thousands of scary suitcase carrying Romanians waiting at their border for the word go.elvisimo

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

Very much like the Thai view of Britain.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.[/p][/quote]Very much like the Thai view of Britain.Stephen J

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward.

We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them.

They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for.

I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed.
I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward.
We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them.
They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for.
I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed.
I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" systemst1halo

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population?

It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population?
It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.elvisimo

In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.

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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.

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http://www.who.int/w

ater_sanitation_heal

th/en/poster8.pdf

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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

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http://ec.europa.eu/

environment/integrat

ion/research/newsale

rt/pdf/297na1.pdf

I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame

In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.

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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.

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http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf

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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this pending nightmare.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame

[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote:
Fluoridation X-Files.. Podcast: Ireland/UK Livestock (meat/offal/bone) with skeletal fluorosis sold for human consumption.
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That's according to a Vet visiting an Abattoir/Slaughterho
use.
Skip to 1:14:40.. Ireland/UK Livestock can drink up to 20 gallons of Fluoridated water a day.
Skip to 1:22:30.. MP Tessa Jowell hears no testing for Fluoride Contamination.
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Podcast:
http://tinyurl.com/b
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also
Podcast:
http://media48.podbe
an.com/pb/3b4dbfa746
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2012_fluoride_the_pr
otected_poison.mp3
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We learn today from UK Scientists that Ireland/UK/Romanian Horse (offal/bone) meat maybe substandard.
In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.
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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.
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http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf
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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
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http://ec.europa.eu/
environment/integrat
ion/research/newsale
rt/pdf/297na1.pdf
I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame[/p][/quote]Fluoridation X-Files.. Podcast: Ireland/UK Livestock (meat/offal/bone) with skeletal fluorosis sold for human consumption.
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Apologies folks for previous broken URLs..
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That's according to a Vet visiting an Abattoir/Slaughterho
use.
Skip to 1:14:40.. Ireland/UK Livestock can drink up to 20 gallons of Fluoridated water a day.
Skip to 1:22:30.. MP Tessa Jowell hears no testing for Fluoride Contamination.
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Podcast:
http://hampshireagai
nstfluoridation.blog
spot.co.uk/2013/01/p
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also
Podcast:
http://www.podbean.c
om/podcast-detail?pi
d=63347
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We learn today from UK Scientists that Ireland/UK/Romanian Horse (offal/bone) meat maybe substandard.
In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.
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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.
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http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf
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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
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http://ec.europa.eu/
environment/integrat
ion/research/newsale
rt/pdf/297na1.pdf
I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this pending nightmare.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blameDan Soton

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.CharlieOxbridge

griffon wrote:
How much public money are we paying Mr Farage every year to promote his party. He obviously has nothing else to do well nothing useful.Will BMP be competing for the Ukip vote?

Have you actually met Nigel? He's actually a really nice guy and this comparison with the BNP is just pathetic, especially from the same people that are using words like "scare mongering" pot and kettle. Check out this video of Nigel being stopped in the street http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=CTbiZQAFy
UY

[quote][p][bold]griffon[/bold] wrote:
How much public money are we paying Mr Farage every year to promote his party. He obviously has nothing else to do well nothing useful.Will BMP be competing for the Ukip vote?[/p][/quote]Have you actually met Nigel? He's actually a really nice guy and this comparison with the BNP is just pathetic, especially from the same people that are using words like "scare mongering" pot and kettle. Check out this video of Nigel being stopped in the street http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=CTbiZQAFy
UYCharlieOxbridge

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.

so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.[/p][/quote]so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?elvisimo

You know what ! Well done to this lady from UKIP, its about time a politician spoke out about immigration rather that defend it , the people of Britain do not want more immigrants coming here full stop, our Government is loosing a grip on the many many problems it is causing, come on Eastleigh voters vote UKIP.

You know what ! Well done to this lady from UKIP, its about time a politician spoke out about immigration rather that defend it , the people of Britain do not want more immigrants coming here full stop, our Government is loosing a grip on the many many problems it is causing, come on Eastleigh voters vote UKIP.sotonbev

Vote UKIP look at the mess our country is in, and we can not change things while we are in the EU Cameron only offered us and in/out Referendum because of UKIP. knowing the Tories they would rather Labour in power taking us further into the EU than give us that Referendum- Vote UKIP Eastleigh people make history give us that first MP and a voice in parliament

Vote UKIP look at the mess our country is in, and we can not change things while we are in the EU Cameron only offered us and in/out Referendum because of UKIP. knowing the Tories they would rather Labour in power taking us further into the EU than give us that Referendum- Vote UKIP Eastleigh people make history give us that first MP and a voice in parliamentillhavemysay

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.

so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?

Why not actually go down to the BAE shipyard and ask the workers?

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.[/p][/quote]so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?[/p][/quote]Why not actually go down to the BAE shipyard and ask the workers?CharlieOxbridge

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population?

It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration.

Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before.

Added so much to our culture.
Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now.

Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston.

I can assure you scare-mongering it is not

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population?
It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration.
Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before.
Added so much to our culture.
Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now.
Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston.
I can assure you scare-mongering it is notst1halo

As if we didn't know this before. Mafia types from the Eastern Block countries have always been the same. We never had the amount of gun and knife crime before they joined the EU. Keep them out! (And their horses!)

As if we didn't know this before. Mafia types from the Eastern Block countries have always been the same. We never had the amount of gun and knife crime before they joined the EU. Keep them out! (And their horses!)bazzeroz

They won't publicly release the information of course but I would wager my house that the Metropolitan Police statistics for pick pocketing and other related crimes show that they are largely committed by organised gangs of Romanian nationals. On this basis Diane James is being perfectly honest and open about matters, something which although not fashionably or politically correct is in fact accurate, it's about time politicians told things as they are rather than pandering to the liberals in society. Well done UKIP.

They won't publicly release the information of course but I would wager my house that the Metropolitan Police statistics for pick pocketing and other related crimes show that they are largely committed by organised gangs of Romanian nationals. On this basis Diane James is being perfectly honest and open about matters, something which although not fashionably or politically correct is in fact accurate, it's about time politicians told things as they are rather than pandering to the liberals in society. Well done UKIP.Forest Resident

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration. Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before. Added so much to our culture. Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now. Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston. I can assure you scare-mongering it is not

you make my point for me but each to their own.

Very reminicent of the view about indians and pakistanis in the 70's and 80's

It is always good to have someone to blame or bully.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration. Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before. Added so much to our culture. Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now. Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston. I can assure you scare-mongering it is not[/p][/quote]you make my point for me but each to their own.
Very reminicent of the view about indians and pakistanis in the 70's and 80's
It is always good to have someone to blame or bully.elvisimo

roy may wrote:
The people of Eastliegh should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly. The immigration minister refused to say how many might be coming after being asked on no less than four occasions yesterday. His reasons for not saying was that he did not want to scare the public. I think its time to get worried and vote UKIP don't you. The goverment are pretending that they can deny benefits to all these new immigrants, well they cannot under EU and Human Rights law so don't believe a word of this properganda. Your benefits have already been cut to help pay any benefits these immigrants claim like. Child allowance, housing benefits tax credits job seekers not to mention free treatment on the overloaded NHS and free education in our overflowing schools. We will no doubt be oblidged to provide interpreters in these services as well.
Remember this when granny is forced to sell her home to pay for care after a lifetimes conrtibutions to the state

This...

[quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote:
The people of Eastliegh should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly. The immigration minister refused to say how many might be coming after being asked on no less than four occasions yesterday. His reasons for not saying was that he did not want to scare the public. I think its time to get worried and vote UKIP don't you. The goverment are pretending that they can deny benefits to all these new immigrants, well they cannot under EU and Human Rights law so don't believe a word of this properganda. Your benefits have already been cut to help pay any benefits these immigrants claim like. Child allowance, housing benefits tax credits job seekers not to mention free treatment on the overloaded NHS and free education in our overflowing schools. We will no doubt be oblidged to provide interpreters in these services as well.
Remember this when granny is forced to sell her home to pay for care after a lifetimes conrtibutions to the state[/p][/quote]This...Harold K Steptoe

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.

so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?

Why not actually go down to the BAE shipyard and ask the workers?

probably wouldnt get in there because of the millions of eastern europeans. Myopic comments.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.[/p][/quote]so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?[/p][/quote]Why not actually go down to the BAE shipyard and ask the workers?[/p][/quote]probably wouldnt get in there because of the millions of eastern europeans. Myopic comments.elvisimo

I would urge the good people of Eastleigh to vote UKIP...
It is the first time the electorate of this country has had a serious opportunity to give the political elite the 'Finger'...All the parties whatever your affiliations may be, have let the British electorate down badly. Understand this, the professional political class are in it for themselves. Vote protest !.....

I would urge the good people of Eastleigh to vote UKIP...
It is the first time the electorate of this country has had a serious opportunity to give the political elite the 'Finger'...All the parties whatever your affiliations may be, have let the British electorate down badly. Understand this, the professional political class are in it for themselves. Vote protest !.....yohodi

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration. Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before. Added so much to our culture. Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now. Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston. I can assure you scare-mongering it is not

you make my point for me but each to their own.

Very reminicent of the view about indians and pakistanis in the 70's and 80's

It is always good to have someone to blame or bully.

I am not blaming them or bullying them. Is this leading to the Gordon Brown retort to any anti-immigration views?

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]To be clear there is much propoganda on both sides of the divide when it comes to immigration. Taken jobs that others won't do. Mmm, we really needed all those extra taxi drivers didn't we, just couldn't get one before. Added so much to our culture. Yes,whilst working I used to walk past a bench where the drunks would sit and shout abuse at passers-by. We seem to have replaced them with foreign drunks now. Masses? Most definitely. All the politicians admit it and many local authorities have stated that they struggled with it. If you need proof, take a walk down Shirley High St and listen. Or St.Mary's, Northam, parts of Woolston. I can assure you scare-mongering it is not[/p][/quote]you make my point for me but each to their own.
Very reminicent of the view about indians and pakistanis in the 70's and 80's
It is always good to have someone to blame or bully.[/p][/quote]I am not blaming them or bullying them. Is this leading to the Gordon Brown retort to any anti-immigration views?st1halo

look a liitle further and dig a little deeper as to the benefits fo Britains membership of the EU.

Dont get sidelined by a supossed threat of thousands of scary suitcase carrying Romanians waiting at their border for the word go.

This country is going down the plug hole, the nhs can't cope now, let alone a load more scroungers coming over. The only reason they come here for is the benefits that are handed out. Why should I wait at the doctors for someone who comes into the country and hasn't ever paid a penny in taxes or insurance contributions. We're a laughing stock of the whole world.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote:
Get out of Europe now before it's to late.[/p][/quote]look a liitle further and dig a little deeper as to the benefits fo Britains membership of the EU.
Dont get sidelined by a supossed threat of thousands of scary suitcase carrying Romanians waiting at their border for the word go.[/p][/quote]This country is going down the plug hole, the nhs can't cope now, let alone a load more scroungers coming over. The only reason they come here for is the benefits that are handed out. Why should I wait at the doctors for someone who comes into the country and hasn't ever paid a penny in taxes or insurance contributions. We're a laughing stock of the whole world.thomasupton

Both good and bad people can be found in every country, by trying to tarnish the image of all Romanian people UKIP candidate has only managed to prove her own close minded bigotry.

Considering even the quoted remarks of her leader Nigel Farage do not endorse her hysteria proves the lady may have done damaged her own campaign.

Immigration is a serious issue, should be discussed through proper open and honest debate by responsible people.

Wish before blaming all Romanians for crimes, this lady had glanced under the UKIP's own carpet.

Wasn't one of their prominent members jailed for false claims from welfare system? What about UKIP's unsuccessful candidate for council election in Southampton who was caught doing something similar? And the certain former Tory MP who was campaigning for UKIP today, wasn't he involved in something to do with bungs from certain super rich Egyptian whom our government was not willing to give British citizenship?

Christ Huhne of Lib Dem committed very serious crime, just like Tory Lords who were rightly jailed, and I won't say anything about NuLabour's dry rot lady who could not be found guilty because of something to do with her mental condition.

Is UKIP candidate going to tell us that all these people and many others like them are Romanian?

Criminal is criminal, he/she can be from any nationality, race or religion. Paedophile priests for example.

If Mr. Farage wants UKIP to do well in Eastleigh he should put bit of super glue on his candidate's lips and play his own one man band, which tends to mesmerise some people like snake charmer's music does to dangerous snakes.

Both good and bad people can be found in every country, by trying to tarnish the image of all Romanian people UKIP candidate has only managed to prove her own close minded bigotry.
Considering even the quoted remarks of her leader Nigel Farage do not endorse her hysteria proves the lady may have done damaged her own campaign.
Immigration is a serious issue, should be discussed through proper open and honest debate by responsible people.
Wish before blaming all Romanians for crimes, this lady had glanced under the UKIP's own carpet.
Wasn't one of their prominent members jailed for false claims from welfare system? What about UKIP's unsuccessful candidate for council election in Southampton who was caught doing something similar? And the certain former Tory MP who was campaigning for UKIP today, wasn't he involved in something to do with bungs from certain super rich Egyptian whom our government was not willing to give British citizenship?
Christ Huhne of Lib Dem committed very serious crime, just like Tory Lords who were rightly jailed, and I won't say anything about NuLabour's dry rot lady who could not be found guilty because of something to do with her mental condition.
Is UKIP candidate going to tell us that all these people and many others like them are Romanian?
Criminal is criminal, he/she can be from any nationality, race or religion. Paedophile priests for example.
If Mr. Farage wants UKIP to do well in Eastleigh he should put bit of super glue on his candidate's lips and play his own one man band, which tends to mesmerise some people like snake charmer's music does to dangerous snakes.Paramjit Bahia

12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.

Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.

.. a right lot of xenophobes on here tonight.
12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.
Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.freefinker

Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.

Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.

Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.
Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.redsnapper

Never has "Racism" been seen as such a vote winner. I broke my wrist last October, a large number of the doctors who treated me were Eastern Europeans including a Romanian Registrar . In 2011 we put up a Latvian lady for the local council. Our Eurosceptic attitude is based on the refusal of the Conservatives to let us have a referendum. I have met many ex BNP members and UKIP members , UKIP are more right wing than they were. It's time for a sensible debate and a measured control of immigration.

Never has "Racism" been seen as such a vote winner. I broke my wrist last October, a large number of the doctors who treated me were Eastern Europeans including a Romanian Registrar . In 2011 we put up a Latvian lady for the local council. Our Eurosceptic attitude is based on the refusal of the Conservatives to let us have a referendum. I have met many ex BNP members and UKIP members , UKIP are more right wing than they were. It's time for a sensible debate and a measured control of immigration.English Democrat

Stephen J wrote:
&quot;Those Bulgarians. Coming over here taking crime from our own honest, hardworking criminals. Crime in Britain should be for British criminals."

You are right ,it should.No need to make things worse by importing more crime!

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
"Those Bulgarians. Coming over here taking crime from our own honest, hardworking criminals. Crime in Britain should be for British criminals."[/p][/quote]You are right ,it should.No need to make things worse by importing more crime!beiroot

12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.

Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.

That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
.. a right lot of xenophobes on here tonight.
12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.
Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.[/p][/quote]That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.beiroot

12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.

Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.

That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.

.. no, it doesn't tell me any such thing.

Your 'national identity' is that of an immigrant.

Was it Celt, Roman, Anglo, Saxon, Jute, Norman, Huguenot, German, Jew, Irish, Afro-Caribbean, South Indian, East European? You tell me. That’s what our ‘identity’ is, a right hotchpot; and we are all the better for it.

[quote][p][bold]beiroot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
.. a right lot of xenophobes on here tonight.
12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.
Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.[/p][/quote]That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.[/p][/quote].. no, it doesn't tell me any such thing.
Your 'national identity' is that of an immigrant.
Was it Celt, Roman, Anglo, Saxon, Jute, Norman, Huguenot, German, Jew, Irish, Afro-Caribbean, South Indian, East European? You tell me. That’s what our ‘identity’ is, a right hotchpot; and we are all the better for it.freefinker

English Democrat wrote:
Never has &quot;Racism" been seen as such a vote winner. I broke my wrist last October, a large number of the doctors who treated me were Eastern Europeans including a Romanian Registrar . In 2011 we put up a Latvian lady for the local council. Our Eurosceptic attitude is based on the refusal of the Conservatives to let us have a referendum. I have met many ex BNP members and UKIP members , UKIP are more right wing than they were. It's time for a sensible debate and a measured control of immigration.

I find it amazing that the same people who say it's time for a sensible debate on immigration usually preface with words like racism, bigotry and xenophobia.
We have a serious problem here and it needs to be resolved.
Try focusing on the issues, not on the character of those that wish to discuss the issues.
Our Euroscepticism isn't based on the refusal to have a referendum, it is based on being a member for 40 years and seeing no benefit imo.

[quote][p][bold]English Democrat[/bold] wrote:
Never has "Racism" been seen as such a vote winner. I broke my wrist last October, a large number of the doctors who treated me were Eastern Europeans including a Romanian Registrar . In 2011 we put up a Latvian lady for the local council. Our Eurosceptic attitude is based on the refusal of the Conservatives to let us have a referendum. I have met many ex BNP members and UKIP members , UKIP are more right wing than they were. It's time for a sensible debate and a measured control of immigration.[/p][/quote]I find it amazing that the same people who say it's time for a sensible debate on immigration usually preface with words like racism, bigotry and xenophobia.
We have a serious problem here and it needs to be resolved.
Try focusing on the issues, not on the character of those that wish to discuss the issues.
Our Euroscepticism isn't based on the refusal to have a referendum, it is based on being a member for 40 years and seeing no benefit imo.st1halo

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

bollux

[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]bolluxMGRA

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

UKIP are the BNP in suits

either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment

Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?

These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).

don't know where you get your stats from but i would take the ex pats back every time, also ex pats don't claim benefits abroad unlike thousands of our unwanted
visitors

[quote][p][bold]Ciaran[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]UKIP are the BNP in suits[/p][/quote]either way we should shut the door until we have no unemployment[/p][/quote]Except what would we do with all the British ex-pats who would no longer be welcome in the places they now live/plan to live?
These things would have to swing both ways, meaning the difference in numbers would be statistically negligible, (once you discount students who are only here for a couple of years and pay for the privilege).[/p][/quote]don't know where you get your stats from but i would take the ex pats back every time, also ex pats don't claim benefits abroad unlike thousands of our unwanted
visitorslikewatchingbrazil

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

Very much like the Thai view of Britain.

Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians & Bulgarians & other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land & now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist & if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany & getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent & give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures & most pointed to Romanian & Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist & BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in & to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.[/p][/quote]Very much like the Thai view of Britain.[/p][/quote]Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians & Bulgarians & other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land & now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist & if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany & getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent & give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures & most pointed to Romanian & Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist & BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in & to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?loosehead

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

you've sold it to me, i will vote for them from now on, sounds like we might get a decent England again, three cheers for UKIP

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]you've sold it to me, i will vote for them from now on, sounds like we might get a decent England again, three cheers for UKIPlikewatchingbrazil

if this woman had just kept her mouth shut she might have stood a chance, but no, she just had to go and say something dumb.

forget all these clowns

vote for the national health action party

what is it with ukip.
if this woman had just kept her mouth shut she might have stood a chance, but no, she just had to go and say something dumb.
forget all these clowns
vote for the national health action partymariahutch

12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.

Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.

That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.

.. no, it doesn't tell me any such thing.

Your 'national identity' is that of an immigrant.

Was it Celt, Roman, Anglo, Saxon, Jute, Norman, Huguenot, German, Jew, Irish, Afro-Caribbean, South Indian, East European? You tell me. That’s what our ‘identity’ is, a right hotchpot; and we are all the better for it.

Really that means the citizens of Brittany have more right to live here than us then?
As Brittany was colonised by the Britons who fled the Saxon onslaught in Ancient Breton/Britain.
we have unified as the English people then as the British people & we are recognisable any where in the world as a nation.
the Channel Isles said no to the EU they have restrictions on who & how many can live there many have to have work visas & if not renewed they have to go does that make them Racist Bigots?
they never went our way on currency changes some currency use to be legal tender here but now you wouldn't be able to use it they haven't changed they're still British pity we're not.

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]beiroot[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
.. a right lot of xenophobes on here tonight.
12,000 years ago we were near the end of the last ice age and the population of these lands was not far above zero. So, everyone here is an immigrant or a direct descendant on one. We are and always have been a land of immigrants.
Funny thing is; I would wager a considerable amount that the Romano-Britons were saying the exact same things about the Anglo Saxons and Jutes.[/p][/quote]That must tell you that the majority of people are against mass immigration.Exactly how many people would you like to come to our small overcrowded island? I for one am proud of my national identity which I'm afraid is being rapidly eroded.Perhaps that makes me a xenophobe but that doesn't make me a bad person.[/p][/quote].. no, it doesn't tell me any such thing.
Your 'national identity' is that of an immigrant.
Was it Celt, Roman, Anglo, Saxon, Jute, Norman, Huguenot, German, Jew, Irish, Afro-Caribbean, South Indian, East European? You tell me. That’s what our ‘identity’ is, a right hotchpot; and we are all the better for it.[/p][/quote]Really that means the citizens of Brittany have more right to live here than us then?
As Brittany was colonised by the Britons who fled the Saxon onslaught in Ancient Breton/Britain.
we have unified as the English people then as the British people & we are recognisable any where in the world as a nation.
the Channel Isles said no to the EU they have restrictions on who & how many can live there many have to have work visas & if not renewed they have to go does that make them Racist Bigots?
they never went our way on currency changes some currency use to be legal tender here but now you wouldn't be able to use it they haven't changed they're still British pity we're not.loosehead

"The people of Eastliegh should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly."

neither should they be concerned by how they spell the name of the town in which they live, evidently.

"The people of Eastliegh [sic] should not be concerned about where their candidates come from. But should be worrying about the mass immigration due shortly."
neither should they be concerned by how they spell the name of the town in which they live, evidently.jonnyx

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?

yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a &quot;nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.

Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system

Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP &amp; BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.

Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.

so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?

having read your quotes i have decided that it is you who is blinkered and need to dig deeper as your entire arguement is flawed, i work where the English are now the minority this is due to agencies who make more money from them, i also see quite a turn around in staff every few years as they take their money back to their country leaving behind the loans they took out a month before doing the off, but still claiming child support from England as they had kids here, etc etc etc the list goes on, dig deeper it's not good and needs to end.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]Hilarious policies? No different to the last 15 years then. Have you not noticed this country's rapid decline?[/p][/quote]yes i have but suggest we look inward. We have a whole generation where a large proportion are unemployable. They have not had a work ethic instilled by their parents. They didnt work at school or get qualifications and now no one will go near them. They think that they have a devine right to a "nice" life full of the latest gadgets and clothes - well that is not the real world and that who we are paying for. I have said on here previously regarding a colleage who runs a chain of coffee shops. He find the brit born employees lazy, unreliably with various chips on their shoulders thinking they should get something for nothing. It will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Indeed we have developed a benefit system and attitude which has failed. I would suggest that the answer lies in educating and changing that culture from within, not adding to it by assimilating masses from Europe into the said same "failed" system[/p][/quote]Is it masses or is it scare mongering. The jobs taken by many of these eastern europeans are seen as beneath many of our own population? It seems that UKIP & BNP have picked a topic where to date there is no evidence either way but it pushed the button of most people who know no better or indeed are interested finding out more.[/p][/quote]Really? How about getting lucrative contracts at BAE Portsmouth to work on the QEC Aircraft Carrier project? Doing basic CAD work that many locals could easily do? Not many people would describe £35 an hour as beneath them.[/p][/quote]so all eastern europeans are getting these types of jobs? or perhaps a miniscule percentage?[/p][/quote]having read your quotes i have decided that it is you who is blinkered and need to dig deeper as your entire arguement is flawed, i work where the English are now the minority this is due to agencies who make more money from them, i also see quite a turn around in staff every few years as they take their money back to their country leaving behind the loans they took out a month before doing the off, but still claiming child support from England as they had kids here, etc etc etc the list goes on, dig deeper it's not good and needs to end.likewatchingbrazil

mickey01 wrote:
nice to hear an mp with some sense
we already have the horses thats the only contribution the gippoes could give this country it will be all take take take just like the poles

i do love the way the comment boards bring out the morons.

[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote:
nice to hear an mp with some sense
we already have the horses thats the only contribution the gippoes could give this country it will be all take take take just like the poles[/p][/quote]i do love the way the comment boards bring out the morons.jonnyx

You walk around you talk to people & the odd guy will say look at that babe she's Polish but then they turn it around & slag them off for taking the jobs.
A building company takes on only Polish workers & if they ask for a rise he gets another one I asked why not employ British workers he said they no the law to well?
So say stop any more immigrants repatriate any Muslim who spouts out hate & attacks British forces repatriations or to put it bluntly Radicals makes a party /person a racist? A bigot? sorry but my friend who lodged with me was Indian & he hated black people but I guess that to many that's not racism is it?
If being a realist & seeing these islands are now overcrowded & enough's enough & to stop immigration now is the right thing to do makes you a racist fine yes I am one but when my Thai wife says the same & can't understand why we are such a soft touch does that make my wife a racist?

You walk around you talk to people & the odd guy will say look at that babe she's Polish but then they turn it around & slag them off for taking the jobs.
A building company takes on only Polish workers & if they ask for a rise he gets another one I asked why not employ British workers he said they no the law to well?
So say stop any more immigrants repatriate any Muslim who spouts out hate & attacks British forces repatriations or to put it bluntly Radicals makes a party /person a racist? A bigot? sorry but my friend who lodged with me was Indian & he hated black people but I guess that to many that's not racism is it?
If being a realist & seeing these islands are now overcrowded & enough's enough & to stop immigration now is the right thing to do makes you a racist fine yes I am one but when my Thai wife says the same & can't understand why we are such a soft touch does that make my wife a racist?loosehead

Is the vale of UKiP once again slipping to show their true indentity, following on from the Anti Gay comments and compulsory abortions of a recent candidates the UKIP Eastleigh candidate Diane James now makes racist comment about Romanians and crime. Crime is committed by many people from many nations including our home grown criminals, the issue should be about uncontrolled immigration and the threats to the English national indentity and culture, the strain going to be put on our public services, not racist remarks about Romanian.

Is the vale of UKiP once again slipping to show their true indentity, following on from the Anti Gay comments and compulsory abortions of a recent candidates the UKIP Eastleigh candidate Diane James now makes racist comment about Romanians and crime. Crime is committed by many people from many nations including our home grown criminals, the issue should be about uncontrolled immigration and the threats to the English national indentity and culture, the strain going to be put on our public services, not racist remarks about Romanian.English Democrats

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

The horse meat is not coming from Romania- Read the news!

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.[/p][/quote]The horse meat is not coming from Romania- Read the news!oldimmigrant

sotonbev wrote:
You know what ! Well done to this lady from UKIP, its about time a politician spoke out about immigration rather that defend it , the people of Britain do not want more immigrants coming here full stop, our Government is loosing a grip on the many many problems it is causing, come on Eastleigh voters vote UKIP.

I have no respect for your ignorant self!

[quote][p][bold]sotonbev[/bold] wrote:
You know what ! Well done to this lady from UKIP, its about time a politician spoke out about immigration rather that defend it , the people of Britain do not want more immigrants coming here full stop, our Government is loosing a grip on the many many problems it is causing, come on Eastleigh voters vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]I have no respect for your ignorant self!oldimmigrant

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Both good and bad people can be found in every country, by trying to tarnish the image of all Romanian people UKIP candidate has only managed to prove her own close minded bigotry.

Considering even the quoted remarks of her leader Nigel Farage do not endorse her hysteria proves the lady may have done damaged her own campaign.

Immigration is a serious issue, should be discussed through proper open and honest debate by responsible people.

Wish before blaming all Romanians for crimes, this lady had glanced under the UKIP's own carpet.

Wasn't one of their prominent members jailed for false claims from welfare system? What about UKIP's unsuccessful candidate for council election in Southampton who was caught doing something similar? And the certain former Tory MP who was campaigning for UKIP today, wasn't he involved in something to do with bungs from certain super rich Egyptian whom our government was not willing to give British citizenship?

Christ Huhne of Lib Dem committed very serious crime, just like Tory Lords who were rightly jailed, and I won't say anything about NuLabour's dry rot lady who could not be found guilty because of something to do with her mental condition.

Is UKIP candidate going to tell us that all these people and many others like them are Romanian?

Criminal is criminal, he/she can be from any nationality, race or religion. Paedophile priests for example.

If Mr. Farage wants UKIP to do well in Eastleigh he should put bit of super glue on his candidate's lips and play his own one man band, which tends to mesmerise some people like snake charmer's music does to dangerous snakes.

Beautifully said! Thank you!

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
Both good and bad people can be found in every country, by trying to tarnish the image of all Romanian people UKIP candidate has only managed to prove her own close minded bigotry.
Considering even the quoted remarks of her leader Nigel Farage do not endorse her hysteria proves the lady may have done damaged her own campaign.
Immigration is a serious issue, should be discussed through proper open and honest debate by responsible people.
Wish before blaming all Romanians for crimes, this lady had glanced under the UKIP's own carpet.
Wasn't one of their prominent members jailed for false claims from welfare system? What about UKIP's unsuccessful candidate for council election in Southampton who was caught doing something similar? And the certain former Tory MP who was campaigning for UKIP today, wasn't he involved in something to do with bungs from certain super rich Egyptian whom our government was not willing to give British citizenship?
Christ Huhne of Lib Dem committed very serious crime, just like Tory Lords who were rightly jailed, and I won't say anything about NuLabour's dry rot lady who could not be found guilty because of something to do with her mental condition.
Is UKIP candidate going to tell us that all these people and many others like them are Romanian?
Criminal is criminal, he/she can be from any nationality, race or religion. Paedophile priests for example.
If Mr. Farage wants UKIP to do well in Eastleigh he should put bit of super glue on his candidate's lips and play his own one man band, which tends to mesmerise some people like snake charmer's music does to dangerous snakes.[/p][/quote]Beautifully said! Thank you!oldimmigrant

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe.
The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe.
The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.southy

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?

His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.[/p][/quote]Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?
His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.Paramjit Bahia

Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?

I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.

There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!

It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.

Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?
I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.
There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!
It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.Brock_and_Roll

Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?

I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.

There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!

It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.

Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?
I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.
There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!
It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.Brock_and_Roll

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

Very much like the Thai view of Britain.

Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians &amp; Bulgarians &amp; other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land &amp; now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist &amp; if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany &amp; getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent &amp; give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures &amp; most pointed to Romanian &amp; Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist &amp; BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in &amp; to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?

I mean that much of the passport and currency fraud, child abuse of the worst kind and prostitution that occurs in Thailand can, unfortunately, be traced back to British gangs operating in Thailand. So we're not above exploiting the opportunities of other nations for our own criminal ends. Maybe we could get that house in order before pointing the finger elsewhere.

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.[/p][/quote]Very much like the Thai view of Britain.[/p][/quote]Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians & Bulgarians & other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land & now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist & if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany & getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent & give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures & most pointed to Romanian & Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist & BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in & to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?[/p][/quote]I mean that much of the passport and currency fraud, child abuse of the worst kind and prostitution that occurs in Thailand can, unfortunately, be traced back to British gangs operating in Thailand. So we're not above exploiting the opportunities of other nations for our own criminal ends. Maybe we could get that house in order before pointing the finger elsewhere.Stephen J

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?

I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.

There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!

It reminds me sadly of the &quot;no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.

Get real, the election is for a member of parliament not a councillor. It is not racist to be concerned about the numbers of immigrants flooding into our land and swampimg the infrastructure

[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?
I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.
There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!
It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.[/p][/quote]Get real, the election is for a member of parliament not a councillor. It is not racist to be concerned about the numbers of immigrants flooding into our land and swampimg the infrastructureInform Al

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?

His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.

Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.[/p][/quote]Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?
His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.[/p][/quote]Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.Inform Al

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe.
The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

Oh dear, an excellent Labour gumment gave us the NHS, and Wilsons Gumment was forced by the stupid trade unions (COHSE and NUPE) to remove private patient income from the NHS. Currently the Tories are trying to implement prtivate medicine on us through the front door to make their rich friends richer. The Leb Dims are a total waste of space so the only party left to vote for is the socialist party that wants to give the majority what we want, ie UKIP.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe.
The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, an excellent Labour gumment gave us the NHS, and Wilsons Gumment was forced by the stupid trade unions (COHSE and NUPE) to remove private patient income from the NHS. Currently the Tories are trying to implement prtivate medicine on us through the front door to make their rich friends richer. The Leb Dims are a total waste of space so the only party left to vote for is the socialist party that wants to give the majority what we want, ie UKIP.Inform Al

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?

I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.

There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!

It reminds me sadly of the &quot;no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.

The population of Southampton is about 240k (2011)
Asians and British Asians who have been here for generations represent about 8.4%
Migrants from Europe already represent 7.4% growing from this number at about 20% per year.
So when exactly does this become (and how is it not!) a local issue affecting local services in your opinion?

[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
Since when has a by election to elect a member of parliament for the town of Eastleigh got anything ot do with the Eurozone or immigration from Eastern Europe?
I would have thought that the pirmary issues of concern should be local services and local issues - whether you are on the left or right, these are the issues that effect people's daily lives.
There will be a referndum on the Eurozone so you can park that issue. As for immigration from Eatern Europe I would be interest if anyone can come on here and say that their job was stolen by a Bulgarian, horse eaten by a Romanian or daughter eloped with a Moldovan!
It reminds me sadly of the "no balcks and irish" signs from the 1950s that no one would dream of putting up these days.[/p][/quote]The population of Southampton is about 240k (2011)
Asians and British Asians who have been here for generations represent about 8.4%
Migrants from Europe already represent 7.4% growing from this number at about 20% per year.
So when exactly does this become (and how is it not!) a local issue affecting local services in your opinion?st1halo

''Until we sort out the UK Border Agency and make it fit for purpose, the only way is a moratorium on immigration.'' What. All immigration? You don't mean "all" surely. What you probably mean is "All immigration. Except, these, and those. They're fine. I don't mean them..."

''Until we sort out the UK Border Agency and make it fit for purpose, the only way is a moratorium on immigration.'' What. All immigration? You don't mean "all" surely. What you probably mean is "All immigration. Except, these, and those. They're fine. I don't mean them..."Stephen J

Stephen J wrote:
''Until we sort out the UK Border Agency and make it fit for purpose, the only way is a moratorium on immigration.'' What. All immigration? You don't mean &quot;all" surely. What you probably mean is "All immigration. Except, these, and those. They're fine. I don't mean them..."

We had a proud tradition of taking in the victims of obscene governments, but due to the overcrowded state of the nation we now even send genuine refugees back to scum tyrants such as those ruining Zymbabwe and Iran. I personally would agree to all immigration being put on hold until we can again do what is right for the worlds victims.

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
''Until we sort out the UK Border Agency and make it fit for purpose, the only way is a moratorium on immigration.'' What. All immigration? You don't mean "all" surely. What you probably mean is "All immigration. Except, these, and those. They're fine. I don't mean them..."[/p][/quote]We had a proud tradition of taking in the victims of obscene governments, but due to the overcrowded state of the nation we now even send genuine refugees back to scum tyrants such as those ruining Zymbabwe and Iran. I personally would agree to all immigration being put on hold until we can again do what is right for the worlds victims.Inform Al

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?

His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.

Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.

There is hardly anything in common with BNP voters and those decent people who vote and support Labour or for that matter even NuLabour. Even many Tories voters have very rightly no time for parties like BNP.

On your other point regarding Kilroy Silk, considering he is very right winger, and even he found that UKIP leans too much towards right and has many xenophobes in it proves that it is not only us on the left who oppose UKIP but even likes of him also can't stand it anymore.

Yes Nigel Farage is too clever, knows how far to push before exposing mostly unknown side of his party. As unlike candidate in Eastleigh, according to quotes attributed to him in this news item he appear to have skirted around the subject and so far has not endorsed the remarks of his candidate.

Personally I have never ever supported either the EEC or the EU, for same reasons Bryan Gould and Tony Benn and many others of the left oppose it. But UKIP's reasons are different than ours.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.[/p][/quote]Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?
His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.[/p][/quote]Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.[/p][/quote]There is hardly anything in common with BNP voters and those decent people who vote and support Labour or for that matter even NuLabour. Even many Tories voters have very rightly no time for parties like BNP.
On your other point regarding Kilroy Silk, considering he is very right winger, and even he found that UKIP leans too much towards right and has many xenophobes in it proves that it is not only us on the left who oppose UKIP but even likes of him also can't stand it anymore.
Yes Nigel Farage is too clever, knows how far to push before exposing mostly unknown side of his party. As unlike candidate in Eastleigh, according to quotes attributed to him in this news item he appear to have skirted around the subject and so far has not endorsed the remarks of his candidate.
Personally I have never ever supported either the EEC or the EU, for same reasons Bryan Gould and Tony Benn and many others of the left oppose it. But UKIP's reasons are different than ours.Paramjit Bahia

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

Elvis seems to adopt the left wing loony holier than thou approach to anyone he or she perceives as being right of the extreme left. For too long we have been lectured to by the loony left wing wrist wringing apologists who would have us feel guilty for everything that has made the Western world strong and civilised.
Perhaps the current trend towards social anarchy, the dysfunction, the psychology of entitlement and the me-me-me attitude is a direct result of these left wing lunatics running the assylum.
As a distinct Middle of the Road person who has worked very hard, been reasonably frugal, engaged in a demanding and stressful profession, raised a family, paid a mortgage etc I like much of what is the UKIP platform. And I tremble to add that arguably the vast majority of Brits will feel the same as me despite the left wing fringe dwellers seeking to poison any person or party right of extreme left.
Maybe just maybe it is time now for the mass majority, normally relatively silent, to be heard and listened to instead of being used to fund and make work all the extreme loony left and extreme right policies. I know some will view this as heresy but now is the time for the majority to rule and determine - no longer the minority fringe self interest groups.
Let us start with a full review of benefits and illegal immigration including forced deportations if required. Let us also deport all foreign born criminals who have chosen to commit crime in the country that provided them with an opportunity for an improved life. And further let us permit people to say what they think within reasonable parameters without the politically correct mobs screeching for a lynching.
Ahh just a start but at least it is a start. If the UKIP have these issues on their platform then I am all for them. That simply makes them a middle of the road party - just what the doctor has ordered for the chaos that is currently the UK and other similar western countries.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]Elvis seems to adopt the left wing loony holier than thou approach to anyone he or she perceives as being right of the extreme left. For too long we have been lectured to by the loony left wing wrist wringing apologists who would have us feel guilty for everything that has made the Western world strong and civilised.
Perhaps the current trend towards social anarchy, the dysfunction, the psychology of entitlement and the me-me-me attitude is a direct result of these left wing lunatics running the assylum.
As a distinct Middle of the Road person who has worked very hard, been reasonably frugal, engaged in a demanding and stressful profession, raised a family, paid a mortgage etc I like much of what is the UKIP platform. And I tremble to add that arguably the vast majority of Brits will feel the same as me despite the left wing fringe dwellers seeking to poison any person or party right of extreme left.
Maybe just maybe it is time now for the mass majority, normally relatively silent, to be heard and listened to instead of being used to fund and make work all the extreme loony left and extreme right policies. I know some will view this as heresy but now is the time for the majority to rule and determine - no longer the minority fringe self interest groups.
Let us start with a full review of benefits and illegal immigration including forced deportations if required. Let us also deport all foreign born criminals who have chosen to commit crime in the country that provided them with an opportunity for an improved life. And further let us permit people to say what they think within reasonable parameters without the politically correct mobs screeching for a lynching.
Ahh just a start but at least it is a start. If the UKIP have these issues on their platform then I am all for them. That simply makes them a middle of the road party - just what the doctor has ordered for the chaos that is currently the UK and other similar western countries.MiddleOfRoad

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.

Very much like the Thai view of Britain.

Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians &amp; Bulgarians &amp; other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land &amp; now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist &amp; if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany &amp; getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent &amp; give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures &amp; most pointed to Romanian &amp; Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist &amp; BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in &amp; to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?

I mean that much of the passport and currency fraud, child abuse of the worst kind and prostitution that occurs in Thailand can, unfortunately, be traced back to British gangs operating in Thailand. So we're not above exploiting the opportunities of other nations for our own criminal ends. Maybe we could get that house in order before pointing the finger elsewhere.

WRONG! I have stood in Carrefour in Pattaya & seen Dutch/Germans fondling girls starting at 13 going down I've gone mad about it but my wife hurried me away.
the prostitution is slowly being taken over by Russian mobsters the Police are constantly rounding up Bulgarian,Romanian,R
ussian & most Eastern European Girls taken there by the gangs for prostitution.
they get one or two British pedophiles who they put away & a few drug pushers who've had it if caught.
but compare the figures from Germany & then look how they've conned a French company into buying Beef which in fact was Horsemeat & you'll see the tip of the problem that's coming our way.
once here we can't reject them thanks to the European Human rights court

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
A special Police task force linked car crime back to criminal gangs in Romania using websites such as Autotrader, a Countryfile report linked Romania with a huge rise in stolen agricultural machinery. A Panorama report linked child slavery/trafficking back to criminal gangs in Romania and the recent horse meat scandal... yes you guessed it Romania. Just a few legitimate examples.[/p][/quote]Very much like the Thai view of Britain.[/p][/quote]Really? As some one who's lived in Thailand exactly what do you mean?
Okay let's do it the Thai or American way.
Romanians & Bulgarians & other countries can come here as long as they start a business do no work themselves not even work behind the bar but only employ British workers to do the job.
Cannot own land & now in Thailand they're trying to make it illegal for the Thai wife to but property.
In Thailand you will only ever be a long stay Tourist & if you marry a Thai you stay a tourist with no rights.
This is the same as many countries.
Stop any housing going to emigrants from the EU as I can't see you going to Spain ,France,Germany & getting housed in council properties where the country will pay your rent & give you money to live .
The UKIP candidate was quoting from German crime figures & most pointed to Romanian & Bulgarian immigrants so why does that make her or her party Racist & BNP members?
The EU has cost us far more in monies paid in & to local infrastructures than we ever get back.
In Spain we kept thousands of Spanish construction workers in work as we had no choice but to buy or privately rent properties are you telling me this is the same in this country?[/p][/quote]I mean that much of the passport and currency fraud, child abuse of the worst kind and prostitution that occurs in Thailand can, unfortunately, be traced back to British gangs operating in Thailand. So we're not above exploiting the opportunities of other nations for our own criminal ends. Maybe we could get that house in order before pointing the finger elsewhere.[/p][/quote]WRONG! I have stood in Carrefour in Pattaya & seen Dutch/Germans fondling girls starting at 13 going down I've gone mad about it but my wife hurried me away.
the prostitution is slowly being taken over by Russian mobsters the Police are constantly rounding up Bulgarian,Romanian,R
ussian & most Eastern European Girls taken there by the gangs for prostitution.
they get one or two British pedophiles who they put away & a few drug pushers who've had it if caught.
but compare the figures from Germany & then look how they've conned a French company into buying Beef which in fact was Horsemeat & you'll see the tip of the problem that's coming our way.
once here we can't reject them thanks to the European Human rights courtloosehead

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.

Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?

His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.

Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.

There is hardly anything in common with BNP voters and those decent people who vote and support Labour or for that matter even NuLabour. Even many Tories voters have very rightly no time for parties like BNP.

On your other point regarding Kilroy Silk, considering he is very right winger, and even he found that UKIP leans too much towards right and has many xenophobes in it proves that it is not only us on the left who oppose UKIP but even likes of him also can't stand it anymore.

Yes Nigel Farage is too clever, knows how far to push before exposing mostly unknown side of his party. As unlike candidate in Eastleigh, according to quotes attributed to him in this news item he appear to have skirted around the subject and so far has not endorsed the remarks of his candidate.

Personally I have never ever supported either the EEC or the EU, for same reasons Bryan Gould and Tony Benn and many others of the left oppose it. But UKIP's reasons are different than ours.

Sorry but Kilroy went to far he was over the top I find it rather odd that you seem to label any one who's against immigration or stands up & say's they're proud to be British as a Racist?
I know that many Asians & many Blacks hate the other ethnic group so are they racist?
If a Woman/girl says "I only go out with Black men,So I'm not a racist as I go out with Black men" does that in your eyes make her a racist by choosing a colour not a person?

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Well if you can't believe an ex-leader about his own party UKIP, who openly amitt that UKIP is a far right wing party, who are you going to believe. The fact is that UKIP as far right wing policys and are about as trustworthy as the BNP, I would never trust UKIP with some thing like the NHS it would about as safe as it is in Torys hands.[/p][/quote]Peter, Do you remember once certain Kilroy Silk (former Labour MP used to be involved in TV programming ) who became darling of UKIP and MEP found out after spending few months with prominent members of this party?
His inside info should leave nobody in any doubt about what real UKIP is all about.[/p][/quote]Your disengiuity does you no favours, especially since we all know Kilroy Silk was booted out of UIKIP due to his extremist views. Views which are more likely to be shared by BNP and Labour voters.[/p][/quote]There is hardly anything in common with BNP voters and those decent people who vote and support Labour or for that matter even NuLabour. Even many Tories voters have very rightly no time for parties like BNP.
On your other point regarding Kilroy Silk, considering he is very right winger, and even he found that UKIP leans too much towards right and has many xenophobes in it proves that it is not only us on the left who oppose UKIP but even likes of him also can't stand it anymore.
Yes Nigel Farage is too clever, knows how far to push before exposing mostly unknown side of his party. As unlike candidate in Eastleigh, according to quotes attributed to him in this news item he appear to have skirted around the subject and so far has not endorsed the remarks of his candidate.
Personally I have never ever supported either the EEC or the EU, for same reasons Bryan Gould and Tony Benn and many others of the left oppose it. But UKIP's reasons are different than ours.[/p][/quote]Sorry but Kilroy went to far he was over the top I find it rather odd that you seem to label any one who's against immigration or stands up & say's they're proud to be British as a Racist?
I know that many Asians & many Blacks hate the other ethnic group so are they racist?
If a Woman/girl says "I only go out with Black men,So I'm not a racist as I go out with Black men" does that in your eyes make her a racist by choosing a colour not a person?loosehead

redsnapper wrote:
Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.

Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.

In Le Havre the French mayor led a mob out to attack foreigners & guess what he was a communist mayor so why just say it's the right?

[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote:
Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.
Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.[/p][/quote]In Le Havre the French mayor led a mob out to attack foreigners & guess what he was a communist mayor so why just say it's the right?loosehead

Yes Cameron has a lot in his favour like these things mentiond below
Mass immigration, bedroom tax, unemployment, flat economy, gay marrige, benefit cuts to pay for immigration benefits and £50,000,000 a day to Brusseles. Not to mention an overloaded NHS or underfunded defence and education. Plus CAST IRON GUARENTEES of a referendum that we all know is bulls**t as he tries desperatly to stem his loss of support to UKIP.

Yes Cameron has a lot in his favour like these things mentiond below
Mass immigration, bedroom tax, unemployment, flat economy, gay marrige, benefit cuts to pay for immigration benefits and £50,000,000 a day to Brusseles. Not to mention an overloaded NHS or underfunded defence and education. Plus CAST IRON GUARENTEES of a referendum that we all know is bulls**t as he tries desperatly to stem his loss of support to UKIP.roy may

Strange as it may seem to some UKIP is the ONLY political party in the UK who denies membership to anyone who has previously been a member of the BNP. I think ex BNP members can join the Labour, Tory and Liberal party no problem. Sorry that the smear tactics dont work but just try checking yoour own membership.
Wsn't the Tory candidate once a Labour supporter, Does this change in alliance smell of opportuneism

Strange as it may seem to some UKIP is the ONLY political party in the UK who denies membership to anyone who has previously been a member of the BNP. I think ex BNP members can join the Labour, Tory and Liberal party no problem. Sorry that the smear tactics dont work but just try checking yoour own membership.
Wsn't the Tory candidate once a Labour supporter, Does this change in alliance smell of opportuneismroy may

'I am not blaming them or bullying them. Is this leading to the Gordon Brown retort to any anti-immigration views?”

Exactly so. As soon as someone like Diane James has the courage to tell the truth, she is predictably labelled a racist bigot.

If the socialists here listen to Nigel Farage's actual words, and they are not that hard to find if you look up Eastleigh by election on YouTube, he goes out of his way to say he has nothing against Bulgarians and Romanians and wishes them but that we simply have no obligation to accept them, no room, no jobs, no homes.

UKIP are going to keep on telling the truth and face down the dog whistle cries of 'racist bigot!' from the liberal left whenever uncontrolled mass immigration is mentioned, so call us names if you like but we will not be censored.

st1halo wrote
'I am not blaming them or bullying them. Is this leading to the Gordon Brown retort to any anti-immigration views?”
Exactly so. As soon as someone like Diane James has the courage to tell the truth, she is predictably labelled a racist bigot.
If the socialists here listen to Nigel Farage's actual words, and they are not that hard to find if you look up Eastleigh by election on YouTube, he goes out of his way to say he has nothing against Bulgarians and Romanians and wishes them but that we simply have no obligation to accept them, no room, no jobs, no homes.
UKIP are going to keep on telling the truth and face down the dog whistle cries of 'racist bigot!' from the liberal left whenever uncontrolled mass immigration is mentioned, so call us names if you like but we will not be censored.
And Google (Andrew + Neather + Labour + Immigration + scandal) to find out a bit more about the murky Labour politics behind mass immigration.
Vote UKIP or vote LibLabCon for more of the same.Stephen Hayes

redsnapper wrote:
Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.

Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.

In Le Havre the French mayor led a mob out to attack foreigners &amp; guess what he was a communist mayor so why just say it's the right?

Redsnapper, you are well named for a socialist troll.

Its UKIP who are BRINGING new ideas.

love your highly original use of the word 'bigotted', I've never come across that as a knee jerk response to criticism of uncontrolled mass immigration, well not for several seconds anyway.

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote:
Immigration is the politics of hate being peddled by the extreme right aka UKIP aka BNP in suits.
Farage looks like something out of the Simpsons and his attempts at policies are just as comical, if not for that fact that behind them is a group of people who come across as insular, bigotted and clearly intolerant of newcomers and new ideas.[/p][/quote]In Le Havre the French mayor led a mob out to attack foreigners & guess what he was a communist mayor so why just say it's the right?[/p][/quote]Redsnapper, you are well named for a socialist troll.
Its UKIP who are BRINGING new ideas.
love your highly original use of the word 'bigotted', I've never come across that as a knee jerk response to criticism of uncontrolled mass immigration, well not for several seconds anyway.Stephen Hayes

Who the **** are UKIP anyway and why are we talking about them? Stupid me!

The wont win this bye election, or any seats in the next general election.

Rightly or wrongly t, under our current "first past the post" electoral system they are little more than a sinlge issue pressure group trying and succeding in to stealing the "nasty party" mantle from the Tories!

Who the **** are UKIP anyway and why are we talking about them? Stupid me!
The wont win this bye election, or any seats in the next general election.
Rightly or wrongly t, under our current "first past the post" electoral system they are little more than a sinlge issue pressure group trying and succeding in to stealing the "nasty party" mantle from the Tories!Brock_and_Roll

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Who the **** are UKIP anyway and why are we talking about them? Stupid me!

The wont win this bye election, or any seats in the next general election.

Rightly or wrongly t, under our current &quot;first past the post" electoral system they are little more than a sinlge issue pressure group trying and succeding in to stealing the "nasty party" mantle from the Tories!

The first sentence of your stupid tirade says it all, you clearly do not have a clue of what UKIP is about. Go look it up, study their manifesto. Learning can be such fun.

[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
Who the **** are UKIP anyway and why are we talking about them? Stupid me!
The wont win this bye election, or any seats in the next general election.
Rightly or wrongly t, under our current "first past the post" electoral system they are little more than a sinlge issue pressure group trying and succeding in to stealing the "nasty party" mantle from the Tories![/p][/quote]The first sentence of your stupid tirade says it all, you clearly do not have a clue of what UKIP is about. Go look it up, study their manifesto. Learning can be such fun.Inform Al

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.Red1918

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.

Just a couple of questions

It's my understanding that the Big Issue is sold by the unemployed generally. If it is the case that this 'hard working Romanian lad' is actually unemployed, doesn't that tell you something about the problems we are facing?

UKIP are not related to the Big Issue in any way other than using it for an advertising medium so how is it they are exploiting immigrant workers?

As for illogical fears, look at the figures I posted further up the page. It equates to 50-60 years worth of immigration in 10 years with lots more to come. If you are happy to pay for and sustain these levels then you do it because I am not.

[quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.[/p][/quote]Just a couple of questions
It's my understanding that the Big Issue is sold by the unemployed generally. If it is the case that this 'hard working Romanian lad' is actually unemployed, doesn't that tell you something about the problems we are facing?
UKIP are not related to the Big Issue in any way other than using it for an advertising medium so how is it they are exploiting immigrant workers?
As for illogical fears, look at the figures I posted further up the page. It equates to 50-60 years worth of immigration in 10 years with lots more to come. If you are happy to pay for and sustain these levels then you do it because I am not.st1halo

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Judging by the Socialist Troll comments on here it is clear that people a running scared of UKIP

I think that is because they are worried that the gravy train they are on may get derailed. Even if UKIP are not succesful that train has got to be stopped!

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Judging by the Socialist Troll comments on here it is clear that people a running scared of UKIP[/p][/quote]I think that is because they are worried that the gravy train they are on may get derailed. Even if UKIP are not succesful that train has got to be stopped!st1halo

elvisimo wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.

The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.

There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.

However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.

The fact that UKIP is prepared to pay to advertise in the Big Issue shows they are more socialist than you want to believe. That advert is actually helping the unemployed person that sold you your Big Issue.

[quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote.
The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education.
There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better.
However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]What bunch of two faced hypocritical scumbags UKIP are. I bought my usual copy of the Big Issue from a decent hardworking Romanian lad in Eastleigh yesterday, and what was one of the advertising flyers inside? - an election leaflet for UKIP. It is absolutely typical of them - exploit immigrant workers for all they are worth and then play on the illogical fears of British voters about their presense.[/p][/quote]The fact that UKIP is prepared to pay to advertise in the Big Issue shows they are more socialist than you want to believe. That advert is actually helping the unemployed person that sold you your Big Issue.Inform Al

Well I am not on the housing list I own my home outright, My child already has her degree, I can afford private health care and do not need to work, and I do not claim any benefits. Therefore nothing will affect me but I hope elvismo has lots of cash and can keep his job and afford his mortgaue if he has one. It would be a dreadfull shame if he was to go on the housing list

Well I am not on the housing list I own my home outright, My child already has her degree, I can afford private health care and do not need to work, and I do not claim any benefits. Therefore nothing will affect me but I hope elvismo has lots of cash and can keep his job and afford his mortgaue if he has one. It would be a dreadfull shame if he was to go on the housing listroy may

Well I am not on the housing list I own my home outright, My child already has her degree, I can afford private health care and do not need to work, and I do not claim any benefits. Therefore nothing will affect me but I hope elvismo has lots of cash and can keep his job and afford his mortgaue if he has one. It would be a dreadfull shame if he was to go on the housing list

Well I am not on the housing list I own my home outright, My child already has her degree, I can afford private health care and do not need to work, and I do not claim any benefits. Therefore nothing will affect me but I hope elvismo has lots of cash and can keep his job and afford his mortgaue if he has one. It would be a dreadfull shame if he was to go on the housing listroy may

Big Mac wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.

I just had my breakfast then & I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?

[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.[/p][/quote]I just had my breakfast then & I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?loosehead

Why is it in this country if the left doesn't like a point of view or a political party & that party or viewpoint are looking popular we hear Racist,Bigots?
we have to be honest here we have 2.4million unemployed approximately 3million Poles/eastern Europeans here already.
we have people from every colony of our EU partners as they get those countries nationality then come here.
As a people we've had enough but can't say it as we'd get branded as a Racist.
Milliband said Labour would listen to the people? how much did he listen? they haven't changed since Brown's out burst.
It's not just the white population that's saying close the doors it's all ethnic groups so how can it be racist?
There are a couple of policies I feel UKIP need to change but I'd love to see them win Eastleigh so come on be honest to yourself's & just think if you wanted to you could vote them in for two years then vote for some one else or keep them!

Why is it in this country if the left doesn't like a point of view or a political party & that party or viewpoint are looking popular we hear Racist,Bigots?
we have to be honest here we have 2.4million unemployed approximately 3million Poles/eastern Europeans here already.
we have people from every colony of our EU partners as they get those countries nationality then come here.
As a people we've had enough but can't say it as we'd get branded as a Racist.
Milliband said Labour would listen to the people? how much did he listen? they haven't changed since Brown's out burst.
It's not just the white population that's saying close the doors it's all ethnic groups so how can it be racist?
There are a couple of policies I feel UKIP need to change but I'd love to see them win Eastleigh so come on be honest to yourself's & just think if you wanted to you could vote them in for two years then vote for some one else or keep them!loosehead

Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, " its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara

Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, " its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sarasedgers

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

Nigel Farage is married to a German. Would Nick Griffin marry a foreigner?

UKIP membership is open to people of all races, weren't the BNP forced by the courts to be just as open?

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]Nigel Farage is married to a German. Would Nick Griffin marry a foreigner?
UKIP membership is open to people of all races, weren't the BNP forced by the courts to be just as open?knuckle dragger

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?

[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?knuckle dragger

Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why wont the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new ummirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this racist name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath

Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why wont the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?
2) Can these new ummirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?
3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?
4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws
5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?
Well come on never mind all this racist name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates
We are all waiting with baited breathroy may

roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why wont the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new ummirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this racist name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath

In answer to question 1, Because the last government got it so wrong over the numbers who came here from Poland the current minister doesn't want to make the same mistake.

[quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why wont the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?
2) Can these new ummirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?
3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?
4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws
5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?
Well come on never mind all this racist name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates
We are all waiting with baited breath[/p][/quote]In answer to question 1, Because the last government got it so wrong over the numbers who came here from Poland the current minister doesn't want to make the same mistake.knuckle dragger

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?

No they do not in both UKIP and BNP, think about it if this rule applied in UKIP why is this Diane James still there after the racist remark she just made about the Romanians and Hungarians

[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?[/p][/quote]No they do not in both UKIP and BNP, think about it if this rule applied in UKIP why is this Diane James still there after the racist remark she just made about the Romanians and Hungarianssouthy

Big Mac wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.

I just had my breakfast then &amp; I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?

No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.

Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wing

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.[/p][/quote]I just had my breakfast then & I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?[/p][/quote]No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.
Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wingsouthy

elvisimo wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one

More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.

Ah inteligent argument.

UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to &quot;end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.

Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.

One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?

No they do not in both UKIP and BNP, think about it if this rule applied in UKIP why is this Diane James still there after the racist remark she just made about the Romanians and Hungarians

Southy it was Romanians & Bulgarians.
Southy I don't give a **** for racists of any colour & I know that all ethnic groups have other groups they hate!
I just would like to see UKIP win a seat I never said to be the Government!
As you know I am a Tory but the debate on Immigration & the EU has got to happen it's gone on far to long for Politicians telling us what we should think & that they're always right.
Companies saying we need foreign workers is total bull why not train our people to do the jobs?
they don't because it costs money to train people so it's not a case of Needs it's a case of not paying for the expertise

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]knuckle dragger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: Another inteligent policy to come out of UKIP - the parody party - lets get some scare mongering in to relly attract their core Sun reader target vote. The fact is they will probably do well but then - more to do with lazy constituents who cant really be bothered looking into some of their poilcies which would be hilariously funny if they were not actually serious. Especially the ones regarding, prisons and further education. There has been press that has argues that UKIP has a lot in common with the BNP. When you look into this it is very true however UKIP do present slightly better. However, because one far-right party includes middle class ex-Tories with a polite manner, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable than the other one[/p][/quote]More cr4p, UKIP members despise the far right. It's the lies from pr4tts like you that make some think UKIP is far right.[/p][/quote]Ah inteligent argument.
UKIP are a slightly more moderate brand of right wing politics. Supporters tend to ignore the fact that they have a substantial overlap with the BNP.
At the last election, like the BNP, UKip demanded an end to imigration, tighter border controls, expulsion of illegal imigrants, removal of benefits for those lucky enough to remain and to "end the promotion of the doctrine of multicultralism by local and national government and all publicly funded bodies" (their words). It even included a ban on the burqa and a right to allow and anti islam documentary to be shown in the house of lords by Geert Wilders.
UKIP candidates have described Islam as "degenerate" and suggested Britain forcibly repatriate Muslims.
Maybe less forcible but the message appears to be pretty similar.[/p][/quote]One more thing, UKIP have a policy of expelling members who are found to be racists or belong to racist groups, this policy is enforced and has been reported on. Does the BNP have a similar policy?[/p][/quote]No they do not in both UKIP and BNP, think about it if this rule applied in UKIP why is this Diane James still there after the racist remark she just made about the Romanians and Hungarians[/p][/quote]Southy it was Romanians & Bulgarians.
Southy I don't give a **** for racists of any colour & I know that all ethnic groups have other groups they hate!
I just would like to see UKIP win a seat I never said to be the Government!
As you know I am a Tory but the debate on Immigration & the EU has got to happen it's gone on far to long for Politicians telling us what we should think & that they're always right.
Companies saying we need foreign workers is total bull why not train our people to do the jobs?
they don't because it costs money to train people so it's not a case of Needs it's a case of not paying for the expertiseloosehead

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.

Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.

The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.

W

FROM THE TELEGRAPH
A report by the German Association of Cities recounts problems of illegal working, schoolchildren being unable to speak German and a rise in organised crime since the migrants arrived.
Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund and Hanover have seen a six-fold increase in economic migration from the two countries since 2006, which they say has left them struggling to cope.
The report says cities are facing “significant costs as a result of this poverty migration”.
Wdavescorpio0

Big Mac wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.

I just had my breakfast then &amp; I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?

No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.

Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wing

Why worry about what someone said 15 years ago or more?

What is people friendly about having a deliberate secret policy to socially re-engineer the fabric of our country for personal ideals like the Labour Party did.

You are the quintessential socialist. We have had nearly 20000 people from Europe come to our city to live, causing upheaval in the social fabric, putting pressure on services and finances. (Even at my son's school they had to have an interpreter in class) and all you want to do is try and take some politically correct moral high ground and start labelling people for wanting to do something about it.
I ask you, if UKIP can't do something about it, who can? who will? This is a serious problem that is going to get worse.

Think about the issues, not the personalities!

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.[/p][/quote]I just had my breakfast then & I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?[/p][/quote]No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.
Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wing[/p][/quote]Why worry about what someone said 15 years ago or more?
What is people friendly about having a deliberate secret policy to socially re-engineer the fabric of our country for personal ideals like the Labour Party did.
You are the quintessential socialist. We have had nearly 20000 people from Europe come to our city to live, causing upheaval in the social fabric, putting pressure on services and finances. (Even at my son's school they had to have an interpreter in class) and all you want to do is try and take some politically correct moral high ground and start labelling people for wanting to do something about it.
I ask you, if UKIP can't do something about it, who can? who will? This is a serious problem that is going to get worse.
Think about the issues, not the personalities!st1halo

IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIP

France to deport more Romanians after discovering they are behind 80% of street crime
http://www.dailymail
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IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIPillhavemysay

Big Mac wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.

I just had my breakfast then &amp; I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?

No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.

Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wing

When I read your posts I get embarressed because I consider myself a socialist. Kilroy Silk was booted out of UKIP because he was considered too right wing. You seem to be the only person in the world not to be aware of this.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote:
Go and have some breakfast Loosehead before you loose it completly.[/p][/quote]I just had my breakfast then & I've been up to my allotment since.
The left say UKIP are Racist so why was the UKIP candidate for Southampton Test Black?
surely a racist party wouldn't have black,brown or yellow candidates would they?[/p][/quote]No loose they got to be more shall we say people friendly if they want power in government.
Ask your self this one question, Why did the leader in the 90's leave UKIP and said he did not like the direction the party is going to the wfar and extreme right wing[/p][/quote]When I read your posts I get embarressed because I consider myself a socialist. Kilroy Silk was booted out of UKIP because he was considered too right wing. You seem to be the only person in the world not to be aware of this.Inform Al

illhavemysay wrote:
France to deport more Romanians after discovering they are behind 80% of street crime http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2003025/France-depor t-Romanians-discover ing-80-street-crime. html#axzz2KiGnohzb IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIP

Precisely.

The Tories are well aware of the half million or more Poles that came here (Labour said it would be approx 15,000) from 2004, so they must be aware of the potential for more mass migration from Romania and Bulgaria.

So obviously the Tories, being tough on immigration, are doing something to restrict this potential new flood of immigrants at the end of this year, right?

Wrong. The Tories plan to do absolutely nothing about it.

[quote][p][bold]illhavemysay[/bold] wrote:
France to deport more Romanians after discovering they are behind 80% of street crime http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2003025/France-depor t-Romanians-discover ing-80-street-crime. html#axzz2KiGnohzb IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIP[/p][/quote]Precisely.
The Tories are well aware of the half million or more Poles that came here (Labour said it would be approx 15,000) from 2004, so they must be aware of the potential for more mass migration from Romania and Bulgaria.
So obviously the Tories, being tough on immigration, are doing something to restrict this potential new flood of immigrants at the end of this year, right?
Wrong. The Tories plan to do absolutely nothing about it.behonest

illhavemysay wrote:
France to deport more Romanians after discovering they are behind 80% of street crime http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2003025/France-depor t-Romanians-discover ing-80-street-crime. html#axzz2KiGnohzb IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIP

Precisely.

The Tories are well aware of the half million or more Poles that came here (Labour said it would be approx 15,000) from 2004, so they must be aware of the potential for more mass migration from Romania and Bulgaria.

So obviously the Tories, being tough on immigration, are doing something to restrict this potential new flood of immigrants at the end of this year, right?

Wrong. The Tories plan to do absolutely nothing about it.

Under EU law they can't do anything about it.
Yes we can live in those countries of the EU but could we insist on Social Housing & on getting it paid for by the host country?
or could we claim money from the host country/
the answer is no but under our laws set up by Labour they can come here to work bring their families here then get on the councils emergency housing then get a council/association place to live as we can't by law see children with out a roof over their heads.
no where else in the EU can they do this & get free medical treatment.
When we had the referendum on the Common Market did the Yes ( stay in) campaign tell us this? did they tell us we could no longer say who could live here & we couldn't even eject ABU HAMZA?
Or we'd have to go & give prisoners the vote?
Or we no longer had the right of trial by Jury that was in the constitution that according to Brown wasn't happening it was now a treaty but they'd found a back door to change how the law worked in this country?
The lies by the pro EU people are unbelievable look at Fords or look at what happened to Harland & wolfe they put in a closed bid for the building of one of the cruise liners the one that got built by the French.
under EU law no Government money can be used but the French Government subsidised the bid & it was to late when Blair offered to do the same.
We have played by the rules & been laughed at so let's get the hell out & anything we like we can do ourselves with out Germany or France telling us to do it

[quote][p][bold]behonest[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]illhavemysay[/bold] wrote:
France to deport more Romanians after discovering they are behind 80% of street crime http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2003025/France-depor t-Romanians-discover ing-80-street-crime. html#axzz2KiGnohzb IT IS NOT RACIEST TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MIGRANTS-ITS A FACT I'M VOTING UKIP[/p][/quote]Precisely.
The Tories are well aware of the half million or more Poles that came here (Labour said it would be approx 15,000) from 2004, so they must be aware of the potential for more mass migration from Romania and Bulgaria.
So obviously the Tories, being tough on immigration, are doing something to restrict this potential new flood of immigrants at the end of this year, right?
Wrong. The Tories plan to do absolutely nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Under EU law they can't do anything about it.
Yes we can live in those countries of the EU but could we insist on Social Housing & on getting it paid for by the host country?
or could we claim money from the host country/
the answer is no but under our laws set up by Labour they can come here to work bring their families here then get on the councils emergency housing then get a council/association place to live as we can't by law see children with out a roof over their heads.
no where else in the EU can they do this & get free medical treatment.
When we had the referendum on the Common Market did the Yes ( stay in) campaign tell us this? did they tell us we could no longer say who could live here & we couldn't even eject ABU HAMZA?
Or we'd have to go & give prisoners the vote?
Or we no longer had the right of trial by Jury that was in the constitution that according to Brown wasn't happening it was now a treaty but they'd found a back door to change how the law worked in this country?
The lies by the pro EU people are unbelievable look at Fords or look at what happened to Harland & wolfe they put in a closed bid for the building of one of the cruise liners the one that got built by the French.
under EU law no Government money can be used but the French Government subsidised the bid & it was to late when Blair offered to do the same.
We have played by the rules & been laughed at so let's get the hell out & anything we like we can do ourselves with out Germany or France telling us to do itloosehead

saint63 wrote:
Let the people of Britain decide with a referendum , keep the parasites out , Been down Shirley lately

**** of no job no money now I here not one but two different nations are invading my country guy forks should have succeeded it sucks

[quote][p][bold]saint63[/bold] wrote:
Let the people of Britain decide with a referendum , keep the parasites out , Been down Shirley lately[/p][/quote]**** of no job no money now I here not one but two different nations are invading my country guy forks should have succeeded it sucksmr pops

sedgers wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, &quot; its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara

As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.

[quote][p][bold]sedgers[/bold] wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, " its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara[/p][/quote]As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.English Democrat

sedgers wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, &quot; its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara

As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.

Listening to the leader of UKIP if you have absolute proof of this & are not just slinging dirt around to try & gain votes show it to the UKIP head office & these people WILL be chucked out of the party

[quote][p][bold]English Democrat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sedgers[/bold] wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, " its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara[/p][/quote]As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.[/p][/quote]Listening to the leader of UKIP if you have absolute proof of this & are not just slinging dirt around to try & gain votes show it to the UKIP head office & these people WILL be chucked out of the partyloosehead

"34 year old mother of one, Angharad Yeo, is one of the latest in a growing number of defections to UKIP from the three parties in Westminster. Her mother Harriet Yeo is Chair of Labour NEC.

Angharad Yeo, a long term Labour supporter and campaigner who helped the party in elections since the age of 17, came to the conclusion after the recent Police Commissioner vote that UKIP better represented her views."

Google title to read more: Daughter of Labour Chairman joins UKIP
"34 year old mother of one, Angharad Yeo, is one of the latest in a growing number of defections to UKIP from the three parties in Westminster. Her mother Harriet Yeo is Chair of Labour NEC.
Angharad Yeo, a long term Labour supporter and campaigner who helped the party in elections since the age of 17, came to the conclusion after the recent Police Commissioner vote that UKIP better represented her views."philgcdr

English Democrat wrote:
'I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP.'

This is a blatant lie, so the 'English Democrat' is the one candidate I definitely will not vote for.

Well done on being married to a 'Black Afro Carribean High Court officer' though, it must make you proud to be an 'English Democrat'.

English Democrat wrote:
'I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP.'
This is a blatant lie, so the 'English Democrat' is the one candidate I definitely will not vote for.
Well done on being married to a 'Black Afro Carribean High Court officer' though, it must make you proud to be an 'English Democrat'.behonest

sedgers wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, &quot; its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara

As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.

Please please explain to me if UKIP are a Racist Party as you claim why did they have a Black woman candidate in Southampton Test?
look in all parties you have different people with different reasons to vote for that party.
I for one am sick & tired of people/political parties labelling the opposition as racist.
the Tories have been called racist as they wanted to clamp down on immigration so why not just try to win the seat on your own parties merits

[quote][p][bold]English Democrat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sedgers[/bold] wrote:
Well whilst on a cold afternoon me and my fiance were in Eastleigh on saturday 9th feb, it was his 40th so we went in the wagonners for a drink. Whilst in there a ukip election family came in , the man had a false leg by the look of it, and a blonde son with glasses. Anyway my fiance went in the garden for a ciggarette and the man i mentioned above said, " its all these blacks in this country weve got to get rid of " my fiance came in and was horrified as he is mixed race, has always worked and was born here. Well all i can say is that this man should be taken straight out of this election and disciplined.Even other people in the pub was all talking about him as they heard other things he was saying,, he is a sad horrible man thanks for upsetting my fiance ,.... sara[/p][/quote]As the English Democrat Candidate in this election, I am sorry to have to confirm that Racism towards black people is acceptable to UKIP. I have lot's of UKIP friends who would agree with this chap. In fact the Etheridges were in the national press for having been posting photos of themselves with Golliwogs in a deliberate attempt to draw attention to themselves. The Conservatives threw them out for Racism , UKIP took them in and both are PPC's prospective parliamentary candidates and Bill was recently in Eastleigh campaigning for UKIP. Now it seems that my own campaign team are getting a little bit excited and I have to try and stop them making me out to be the best thing since sliced bread, one of the things they forget to mention is that until last year I was in fact married to a Black Afro Carribean High Court officer. Naturally I am not impressed but UKIP's blatant racism in this campaign or the fact that they chose to parade the Hamiltons in Eastleigh clearly showing their willingness to accept ex Tory MP's with a proven corrupt cash for questions link, is indicative of their attitude to bribery and racist scandals. I might remind you that there is still the English Democrat on what will be a Looney 14 candidate ballot paper, who you can vote for who is a proven anti- racist and anti E.U. and anti corruption candidate. Michael Walters English Democrat on the bottom of the ballot paper.[/p][/quote]Please please explain to me if UKIP are a Racist Party as you claim why did they have a Black woman candidate in Southampton Test?
look in all parties you have different people with different reasons to vote for that party.
I for one am sick & tired of people/political parties labelling the opposition as racist.
the Tories have been called racist as they wanted to clamp down on immigration so why not just try to win the seat on your own parties meritsloosehead

To the people of Eastleigh, the eyes of the country are on you. Our country has changed beyond recognition. Forced immigration has altered our values and way of life. It is time to give the three main parties a wake up call and show them the people have had enough. There is only one party to vote for in this By Election and that is UKIP. Things HAVE to change and YOUR votes could be the start of this. Don't waste you're chance to be heard Eastleigh. Right now YOU are the voice of GB.

To the people of Eastleigh, the eyes of the country are on you. Our country has changed beyond recognition. Forced immigration has altered our values and way of life. It is time to give the three main parties a wake up call and show them the people have had enough. There is only one party to vote for in this By Election and that is UKIP. Things HAVE to change and YOUR votes could be the start of this. Don't waste you're chance to be heard Eastleigh. Right now YOU are the voice of GB.charlie2004

charlie2004 wrote:
To the people of Eastleigh, the eyes of the country are on you. Our country has changed beyond recognition. Forced immigration has altered our values and way of life. It is time to give the three main parties a wake up call and show them the people have had enough. There is only one party to vote for in this By Election and that is UKIP. Things HAVE to change and YOUR votes could be the start of this. Don't waste you're chance to be heard Eastleigh. Right now YOU are the voice of GB.

Correct, but getting the Tory's Echo to push this is not likely.

[quote][p][bold]charlie2004[/bold] wrote:
To the people of Eastleigh, the eyes of the country are on you. Our country has changed beyond recognition. Forced immigration has altered our values and way of life. It is time to give the three main parties a wake up call and show them the people have had enough. There is only one party to vote for in this By Election and that is UKIP. Things HAVE to change and YOUR votes could be the start of this. Don't waste you're chance to be heard Eastleigh. Right now YOU are the voice of GB.[/p][/quote]Correct, but getting the Tory's Echo to push this is not likely.Inform Al

As for me, I'm actually a Respect supporter but as they're not standing here, then my vote is going to UKIP.
That might sound strange to those of you still trapped in the Left/Right political mindset of yesteryear, and I'm happy to openly admit here that it is something I thought I would never say, however, living in this area has "enlightened" me to the utter fallacy of the modern day EU.
Up until or 7 years ago there wasn't a more committed EU federalist than me - but the changes in the Solent's population demographic has changed all that. Let's get one thing clear - the influx from Eastern Europe is unlike any other wave of immigration we have had in these Islands before. In fact, it isn't a wave of immigration at all - it is a premeditated colonisation designed to provide Big Business with a practically inexhaustable supply of cheap, compliant labour. If this isn't stopped NOW then I believe we will see inter-ethnic civil war and it makes me sad to say it but Southampton/Eastleig
h is probably set to be one of the initial flashpoints which will ignite it.
Eastleigh has, electorally, always been a bit of a political barometer, so stand up on the 28th and turn the pressure up on the powers-that-be - VOTE UKIP!

As for me, I'm actually a Respect supporter but as they're not standing here, then my vote is going to UKIP.
That might sound strange to those of you still trapped in the Left/Right political mindset of yesteryear, and I'm happy to openly admit here that it is something I thought I would never say, however, living in this area has "enlightened" me to the utter fallacy of the modern day EU.
Up until or 7 years ago there wasn't a more committed EU federalist than me - but the changes in the Solent's population demographic has changed all that. Let's get one thing clear - the influx from Eastern Europe is unlike any other wave of immigration we have had in these Islands before. In fact, it isn't a wave of immigration at all - it is a premeditated colonisation designed to provide Big Business with a practically inexhaustable supply of cheap, compliant labour. If this isn't stopped NOW then I believe we will see inter-ethnic civil war and it makes me sad to say it but Southampton/Eastleig
h is probably set to be one of the initial flashpoints which will ignite it.
Eastleigh has, electorally, always been a bit of a political barometer, so stand up on the 28th and turn the pressure up on the powers-that-be - VOTE UKIP!Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham

I've noticed a lot of people saying others are racist/ xenophobic etc when they are saying that the mass immigration should be stopped. Have all the bleeding heart liberals who are spouting this rubbish taken the time to think that maybe they aren't saying stop it all together but are merely suggesting that only skilled workers be allowed in so that they are a benefit to this country rather than those with no skills who are instead going to claim benefits from the pot that they themselves have paid nothing in to? If saying that makes you believe i am a racist then i think you may need to go put your rational thinking cap on and take your head out of the daily mail for a while! I for one am sick of the benefits system which was set up to help our elderly and vulnerable being spent on people who have never contributed to it!! And before the Daily Mail brigade start i have Two jobs and pay in excess of £1000 a month in taxes so i think i deserve a say!

I've noticed a lot of people saying others are racist/ xenophobic etc when they are saying that the mass immigration should be stopped. Have all the bleeding heart liberals who are spouting this rubbish taken the time to think that maybe they aren't saying stop it all together but are merely suggesting that only skilled workers be allowed in so that they are a benefit to this country rather than those with no skills who are instead going to claim benefits from the pot that they themselves have paid nothing in to? If saying that makes you believe i am a racist then i think you may need to go put your rational thinking cap on and take your head out of the daily mail for a while! I for one am sick of the benefits system which was set up to help our elderly and vulnerable being spent on people who have never contributed to it!! And before the Daily Mail brigade start i have Two jobs and pay in excess of £1000 a month in taxes so i think i deserve a say!rugbybiker

To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.

I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.

Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.

To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.
Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.cb9999

cb9999 wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.

I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.

Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.

You idiot! take a look at Spain how many Brits are doing Spanish Jobs?
How many Brits are in fact retired?
France can you go & get social housing? can you get paid to live by the state?
most in France have bought their homes & all have no need what so ever for state aid.
Thailand if your caught working your chucked out of the country so if you start a business & your struggling you can't do the work your self you have to employ a Thai,if you haven't married a Thai woman the most you can get is a flat as only Thai's can own Thailands Land & they're putting a halt to wifes buying houses.
So please tell me where apart from Australia & New Zealand are these people of working age coming back here?

[quote][p][bold]cb9999[/bold] wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.
Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.[/p][/quote]You idiot! take a look at Spain how many Brits are doing Spanish Jobs?
How many Brits are in fact retired?
France can you go & get social housing? can you get paid to live by the state?
most in France have bought their homes & all have no need what so ever for state aid.
Thailand if your caught working your chucked out of the country so if you start a business & your struggling you can't do the work your self you have to employ a Thai,if you haven't married a Thai woman the most you can get is a flat as only Thai's can own Thailands Land & they're putting a halt to wifes buying houses.
So please tell me where apart from Australia & New Zealand are these people of working age coming back here?loosehead

cb9999 wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.

I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.

Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.

I too would love to see a UKIP government, but unfortunately the rest of your post is utter cr4p

[quote][p][bold]cb9999[/bold] wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.
Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.[/p][/quote]I too would love to see a UKIP government, but unfortunately the rest of your post is utter cr4pInform Al

cb9999 wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.

I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.

Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.

I too would love to see a UKIP government, but unfortunately the rest of your post is utter cr4p

I agree fully with you!

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]cb9999[/bold] wrote:
To the idiots spouting about all the EU immigrants living in the UK, the number of British citizens living in the EU is broadly similar (albeit I would assume, slightly lower). Just because you live in your little insular lives surrounded by people who have no doubt lived in the same street all their lives because they are so culturally inept, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
I can't wait to see UKIP get into power then have to deal with the fallout of 1 million+ Britons being expelled from decent jobs etc. abroad and all rushing home, ready to claim JSA and a myriad of benefits because the job situation here is so bad at the moment.
Maybe then the utter morons who think immigration is anything other than an insignificant aside will finally shut up and let those with half a brain step up. You may baulk at the suggestion that you are xenophobic or racist, but the fact so many of you have such a deep obsession over such a small issue implies there is something there along those lines.[/p][/quote]I too would love to see a UKIP government, but unfortunately the rest of your post is utter cr4p[/p][/quote]I agree fully with you!loosehead

UKIP Voters, this is what you are voting for!
Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation."
Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was to write a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD. Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."
Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD. He continues to co-preside over it, along with the leader of the Lega Nord. MEP Nikki Sinclaire, however, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to take part in the EFD because of their “extreme views”.
Dress it up how you like....

UKIP Voters, this is what you are voting for!
Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation."
Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was to write a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD. Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."
Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD. He continues to co-preside over it, along with the leader of the Lega Nord. MEP Nikki Sinclaire, however, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to take part in the EFD because of their “extreme views”.
Dress it up how you like....Newsy1

Newsy1 wrote:
UKIP Voters, this is what you are voting for!
Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation.&quot;
Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was to write a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD. Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."
Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD. He continues to co-preside over it, along with the leader of the Lega Nord. MEP Nikki Sinclaire, however, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to take part in the EFD because of their “extreme views”.
Dress it up how you like....

Think you just did, now for the truth please

[quote][p][bold]Newsy1[/bold] wrote:
UKIP Voters, this is what you are voting for!
Ukip is part of the group Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD). The group includes representatives of the Danish People’s Party, the True Finns Party, the Dutch SGP and the infamous Italian Lega Nord – all of them far-right. Nigel Farage is co-President of the group along with Lega Nord’s Francesco Speroni, who described multiple murderer Anders Breivik as someone whose “ideas are in defence of western civilisation."
Mario Borghezio, another member of the group, declared in a radio interview that Breivik had some "excellent" ideas. Farage’s reaction was to write a strongly-worded letter to Borghezio, asking him to withdraw his comments or Ukip would pull out of the EFD. Borghezio not only did not apologise, but responded with an extraordinary speech in which he raged: "Long live the Whites of Europe, long live our identity, our ethnicity, our race… our blue sky, like the eyes of our women. Blue, in a people who want to stay white."
Nigel Farage did not withdraw from the EFD. He continues to co-preside over it, along with the leader of the Lega Nord. MEP Nikki Sinclaire, however, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to take part in the EFD because of their “extreme views”.
Dress it up how you like....[/p][/quote]Think you just did, now for the truth pleaseInform Al

Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.

Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.Newsy1

Newsy1 wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.

Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess & there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right & racist & calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party & you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore & there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party

[quote][p][bold]Newsy1[/bold] wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.[/p][/quote]Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess & there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right & racist & calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party & you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore & there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Partyloosehead

Newsy1 wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.

Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess &amp; there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right &amp; racist &amp; calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party &amp; you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore &amp; there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party

Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this site

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Newsy1[/bold] wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.[/p][/quote]Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess & there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right & racist & calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party & you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore & there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party[/p][/quote]Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this siteInform Al

Newsy1 wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.

Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess &amp; there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right &amp; racist &amp; calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party &amp; you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore &amp; there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party

Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this site

I'm shocked are you actually saying I'm talking sense? If you are Thank You!

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Newsy1[/bold] wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.[/p][/quote]Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess & there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right & racist & calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party & you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore & there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party[/p][/quote]Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this site[/p][/quote]I'm shocked are you actually saying I'm talking sense? If you are Thank You!loosehead

Newsy1 wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.

Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess &amp; there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right &amp; racist &amp; calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party &amp; you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore &amp; there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party

Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this site

I'm shocked are you actually saying I'm talking sense? If you are Thank You!

Everything comes to he who waits. lol

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Newsy1[/bold] wrote:
Prove to me, and others that this isn't true then. I don't think you will because guess what? It is true. I notice you mention the 'truth' quite a bit in your posts. One issue politics tends to attract blinkered voters/followers. I'm sorry to be the one to bring this to your attention.[/p][/quote]Labour is part of a group the Tories are part of another group.
Labours group have the far left in but they work together on Socialist ideologies.
the Tories are in a group that believes Austerity is the way out of this mess & there were people like you who accused some of them of being far right & racist & calling the Tories this.
If you are an emerging party & you have a political viewpoint that the EU should break up or you just don't want to be in it anymore & there are other groups who believe in this what you just ignore them?
You don't have to agree with their politics but if every group in politics in the EU didn't work together as you don't agree with say a communist viewpoint then it would be a far worse place as each party from every country would be fighting to get just their agenda over.
So instead of trying to degrade UKIP or any other Party why not let the parties in this election win through their own merits not by mud slinging?
the only reason this sort of post is happening is that some political parties now see UKIP as a threat.
In this situation it should be a very worried Liberal Party[/p][/quote]Sorry Loosehead, you are not meant to spout common sense on this site[/p][/quote]I'm shocked are you actually saying I'm talking sense? If you are Thank You![/p][/quote]Everything comes to he who waits. lolInform Al

People in Eastleigh many originally from Southampton can see what the influx of many Eastern Europeans have had an effect on the City can see we have our immigration policy very wrong.
The major Parties including mine don't seem to be listening!
Cameron over in India saying he'll make it easier for IIndian students to come here? Did he ask the people of this country if that's what we wanted?
or is it just money grabbing Uni's who are being listened to?
More students more HMO's less family homes is that what we want?
I can accept students & get on with students from this country but do we really want an influx of students from any other country?
at Least UKIP are offering a chance to stop EU immigration by offering us a way out of the mess that's the EU.
You don't have to be a racist to be proud of your country & You aren't a racist to say enough is enough.
there have been interviews in all ethnic groups in this country & they're all saying the same thing stop immigration or at least limit it.
After Botley after Labours rant against Maggie you have two choices Tory or UKIP it's up to the people of Eastleigh to decide

People in Eastleigh many originally from Southampton can see what the influx of many Eastern Europeans have had an effect on the City can see we have our immigration policy very wrong.
The major Parties including mine don't seem to be listening!
Cameron over in India saying he'll make it easier for IIndian students to come here? Did he ask the people of this country if that's what we wanted?
or is it just money grabbing Uni's who are being listened to?
More students more HMO's less family homes is that what we want?
I can accept students & get on with students from this country but do we really want an influx of students from any other country?
at Least UKIP are offering a chance to stop EU immigration by offering us a way out of the mess that's the EU.
You don't have to be a racist to be proud of your country & You aren't a racist to say enough is enough.
there have been interviews in all ethnic groups in this country & they're all saying the same thing stop immigration or at least limit it.
After Botley after Labours rant against Maggie you have two choices Tory or UKIP it's up to the people of Eastleigh to decideloosehead

THE SOCIALIST HEALTH ASSOCIATION WAS FOUNDED IN 1930 TO CAMPAIGN FOR A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE AND IS AFFILIATED TO THE LABOUR PARTY.

Evidence to the Health Select Committee 2007.

We are a membership organisation with members who work in and use the NHS. We include doctors and dentists and other clinicians, managers, board members and patients. Our members are involved in a wide variety of consultation and involvement processes in health and social care. We are particularly concerned that dental services are available to all who need them and that they contribute to improved oral health and reduce inequalities.

It must be recognised that the provision of NHS dental care services is one aspect of improving oral health. PCTs also need to provide or commission community based oral health promotion programmes eg WATER FLUORIDATION, OTHER FLUORIDE USE SUCH AS FLUORIDE VARNISH PROGRAMMES, FLUORIDATED MILK PROGRAMMES, DENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAMMES IN SCHOOLS, ANTI-NATAL SESSIONS ETC. The successful implementation of such preventive programmes, in conjunction with practice-based prevention will reduce the future need for treatment.

Rumanian Gypsy Curse?... NHA look like the Tories, policies like Nu-Labour.
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1) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates the Fluoridation of all drinking Water.
2) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates adding Fluoride to Milk ( when all Milking Cows will be drinking Fluoridated Water ?)
3) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates the promotion of Fluoride products in all Schools, Anti-natal sessions etc.
THE SOCIALIST HEALTH ASSOCIATION WAS FOUNDED IN 1930 TO CAMPAIGN FOR A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE AND IS AFFILIATED TO THE LABOUR PARTY.
Evidence to the Health Select Committee 2007.
We are a membership organisation with members who work in and use the NHS. We include doctors and dentists and other clinicians, managers, board members and patients. Our members are involved in a wide variety of consultation and involvement processes in health and social care. We are particularly concerned that dental services are available to all who need them and that they contribute to improved oral health and reduce inequalities.
It must be recognised that the provision of NHS dental care services is one aspect of improving oral health. PCTs also need to provide or commission community based oral health promotion programmes eg WATER FLUORIDATION, OTHER FLUORIDE USE SUCH AS FLUORIDE VARNISH PROGRAMMES, FLUORIDATED MILK PROGRAMMES, DENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAMMES IN SCHOOLS, ANTI-NATAL SESSIONS ETC. The successful implementation of such preventive programmes, in conjunction with practice-based prevention will reduce the future need for treatment.
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http://www.sochealth
.co.uk/socialist-hea
lth-association-poli
cy/nhs-policies/prim
ary-care-dental-serv
ice/Dan Soton

In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.

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Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.

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http://www.who.int/w

ater_sanitation_heal

th/en/poster8.pdf

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Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

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http://ec.europa.eu/

environment/integrat

ion/research/newsale

rt/pdf/297na1.pdf

I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame

In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.

-

Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.

-

http://www.who.int/w

ater_sanitation_heal

th/en/poster8.pdf

-

Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

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http://ec.europa.eu/

environment/integrat

ion/research/newsale

rt/pdf/297na1.pdf

I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this pending nightmare.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame

THE SOCIALIST HEALTH ASSOCIATION WAS FOUNDED IN 1930 TO CAMPAIGN FOR A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE AND IS AFFILIATED TO THE LABOUR PARTY.

Evidence to the Health Select Committee 2007.

We are a membership organisation with members who work in and use the NHS. We include doctors and dentists and other clinicians, managers, board members and patients. Our members are involved in a wide variety of consultation and involvement processes in health and social care. We are particularly concerned that dental services are available to all who need them and that they contribute to improved oral health and reduce inequalities.

It must be recognised that the provision of NHS dental care services is one aspect of improving oral health. PCTs also need to provide or commission community based oral health promotion programmes eg WATER FLUORIDATION, OTHER FLUORIDE USE SUCH AS FLUORIDE VARNISH PROGRAMMES, FLUORIDATED MILK PROGRAMMES, DENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAMMES IN SCHOOLS, ANTI-NATAL SESSIONS ETC. The successful implementation of such preventive programmes, in conjunction with practice-based prevention will reduce the future need for treatment.

[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote:
Fluoridation X-Files.. Podcast: Ireland/UK Livestock (meat/offal/bone) with skeletal fluorosis sold for human consumption.
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That's according to a Vet visiting an Abattoir/Slaughterho
use.
Skip to 1:14:40.. Ireland/UK Livestock can drink up to 20 gallons of Fluoridated water a day.
Skip to 1:22:30.. MP Tessa Jowell hears no testing for Fluoride Contamination.
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Podcast:
http://tinyurl.com/b
s4v836
also
Podcast:
http://media48.podbe
an.com/pb/3b4dbfa746
00541c72b8d0e1aa804b
70/5119a79b/data1/bl
ogs5/230465/uploads/
2012_fluoride_the_pr
otected_poison.mp3
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We learn today from UK Scientists that Ireland/UK/Romanian Horse (offal/bone) meat maybe substandard.
In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.
-
Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.
-
http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf
-
Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
-
http://ec.europa.eu/
environment/integrat
ion/research/newsale
rt/pdf/297na1.pdf
I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame[/p][/quote]Fluoridation X-Files.. Podcast: Ireland/UK Livestock (meat/offal/bone) with skeletal fluorosis sold for human consumption.
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Apologies folks for previous broken URLs..
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That's according to a Vet visiting an Abattoir/Slaughterho
use.
Skip to 1:14:40.. Ireland/UK Livestock can drink up to 20 gallons of Fluoridated water a day.
Skip to 1:22:30.. MP Tessa Jowell hears no testing for Fluoride Contamination.
-
Podcast:
http://hampshireagai
nstfluoridation.blog
spot.co.uk/2013/01/p
odcast-powered-by-po
dbean-january-12th.h
tml
-
also
Podcast:
http://www.podbean.c
om/podcast-detail?pi
d=63347
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We learn today from UK Scientists that Ireland/UK/Romanian Horse (offal/bone) meat maybe substandard.
In the case of Ireland/UK I suggest Scientists look for Fluorosis and Romania Arsenic Contamination.
-
Romania.. ill-health has been reported due to Arsenic Contaminated water.
-
http://www.who.int/w
ater_sanitation_heal
th/en/poster8.pdf
-
Long-term, low level exposure to arsenic in drinking water may increase a person's risk of skin cancer, according to a new study conducted in Hungary, Romania and Slovakia. The study suggests that LEVELS OF INORGANIC ARSENIC PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE HARMLESS MAY HAVE A CARCINOGENIC EFFECT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
-
http://ec.europa.eu/
environment/integrat
ion/research/newsale
rt/pdf/297na1.pdf
I only hope the NHS have the resources to cope with this pending nightmare.. arrogant SHAs are the only ones to blame[/p][/quote]Rumanian Gypsy Curse?.. NHA look like the Tories, policies like Nu-Labour.
-
1) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates the Fluoridation of all drinking Water.
2) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates adding Fluoride to Milk ( when all Milking Cows will be drinking Fluoridated Water ?)
3) Nu-Labour's (SHA) Socialist Health Association advocates the promotion of Fluoride products in all Schools, Anti-natal sessions etc.
THE SOCIALIST HEALTH ASSOCIATION WAS FOUNDED IN 1930 TO CAMPAIGN FOR A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE AND IS AFFILIATED TO THE LABOUR PARTY.
Evidence to the Health Select Committee 2007.
We are a membership organisation with members who work in and use the NHS. We include doctors and dentists and other clinicians, managers, board members and patients. Our members are involved in a wide variety of consultation and involvement processes in health and social care. We are particularly concerned that dental services are available to all who need them and that they contribute to improved oral health and reduce inequalities.
It must be recognised that the provision of NHS dental care services is one aspect of improving oral health. PCTs also need to provide or commission community based oral health promotion programmes eg WATER FLUORIDATION, OTHER FLUORIDE USE SUCH AS FLUORIDE VARNISH PROGRAMMES, FLUORIDATED MILK PROGRAMMES, DENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAMMES IN SCHOOLS, ANTI-NATAL SESSIONS ETC. The successful implementation of such preventive programmes, in conjunction with practice-based prevention will reduce the future need for treatment.
-
http://www.sochealth
.co.uk/socialist-hea
lth-association-poli
cy/nhs-policies/prim
ary-care-dental-serv
ice/Dan Soton

Your title says it all!
to the left of Labour part of a health service that's lost it's way.
Doctors giving Governments reasons to tax us more & more.
Alcohol drank in moderation destroys cholesterol yet there's a campaign by NHS Doctors to get it taxed out of existence look at how many pubs & jobs have been lost?
they say it costs the NHS but fail to mention how much money is raised & given to the NHS from tax on alcohol.
Sorry this is the party I would never vote for as the NHS interferes to much as it is

Your title says it all!
to the left of Labour part of a health service that's lost it's way.
Doctors giving Governments reasons to tax us more & more.
Alcohol drank in moderation destroys cholesterol yet there's a campaign by NHS Doctors to get it taxed out of existence look at how many pubs & jobs have been lost?
they say it costs the NHS but fail to mention how much money is raised & given to the NHS from tax on alcohol.
Sorry this is the party I would never vote for as the NHS interferes to much as it isloosehead

loosehead wrote:
Your title says it all!
to the left of Labour part of a health service that's lost it's way.
Doctors giving Governments reasons to tax us more &amp; more.
Alcohol drank in moderation destroys cholesterol yet there's a campaign by NHS Doctors to get it taxed out of existence look at how many pubs &amp; jobs have been lost?
they say it costs the NHS but fail to mention how much money is raised &amp; given to the NHS from tax on alcohol.
Sorry this is the party I would never vote for as the NHS interferes to much as it is

Unfortunately C'morons lot are trying to privatise the whole shebang, and not even trying to do it through the back door, they have made it so very obvious. This will be a travesty for the health and treatment for the working classes, much as it is in the US where they actually have a president trying to emulate the NHS pattern, but being hindered by his own right wing money grabbing psychophants

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
Your title says it all!
to the left of Labour part of a health service that's lost it's way.
Doctors giving Governments reasons to tax us more & more.
Alcohol drank in moderation destroys cholesterol yet there's a campaign by NHS Doctors to get it taxed out of existence look at how many pubs & jobs have been lost?
they say it costs the NHS but fail to mention how much money is raised & given to the NHS from tax on alcohol.
Sorry this is the party I would never vote for as the NHS interferes to much as it is[/p][/quote]Unfortunately C'morons lot are trying to privatise the whole shebang, and not even trying to do it through the back door, they have made it so very obvious. This will be a travesty for the health and treatment for the working classes, much as it is in the US where they actually have a president trying to emulate the NHS pattern, but being hindered by his own right wing money grabbing psychophantsInform Al