Obama Suicide Watch At The Hofstra Halloween Horror

We’ll be commenting and having fun tonight in the comments section. Many website will have an open thread: The second debate. Join in. Watch. Comment. The debate is at 9:00 ET. Put your vintage WWII helmet on or one of those ornate Prussian Army helmets with the gold spike on top of the head and join us as we cavort and cavil.

It’s debate night #2 after Mitt Romney beat the Chicago stuffing out of Obama in debate #1. So what is going to happen? Logically most everyone should think that Barack Obama will do “well” tonight – although it might require grading on a curve for him to cross over the debate finish line as something more than a bleeding lump of flesh. Obama should do better. He should. He really really should.

Obama’s rested at the taxpayer dime for several days so he should be rested sufficiently to be awake tonight. His writers will have thought of clever things for him to say. Obama will consume B-12 vitamins, pills of some sort, like Neely O’Hara in the Valley Of The Dolls (“sparkle, sparkle!”), to get him to perform well. Obama will be in his element in front of an audience – ready for adulation and if there is no applause or fainting observers his advisers will assure him that it is because the spectators/participants don’t want the world to know that Obama is the man they love, so pep up Barack.

Yes, tonight should be a 50-50 split decision. Obama will do well. Romney will do well. But that would be a loss. Barack Obama needs a super undisputed massive victory over Romney if Obama is to change the political death trajectory he is on.

“Last spring a leading Democrat in the Hispanic community begged top officials in President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign to find at least one new, inspiring idea for the 2012 campaign. [snip]

Obama officials hinted — but didn’t quite promise — that they would unveil a new proposal at the Democratic convention in Charlotte.

The convention came and went. Nothing.”

The show “Obama” like “Seinfeld” is a show about “nothing.” That’s the joke. The joke is no longer funny. Howard Fineman is aleady writing about who is to blame when Obama loses. Fineman is not talking about the debate. Fineman is talking about who is to blame when Obama loses the election:

“If the president ends up losing the race to Romney, here are some of the reasons — in addition to the lack of a fresh second-term agenda — that Democrats will eventually, but certainly, cite in public:

THE AXEMAN COMETH — Obama campaign mastermind David Axelrod is a romantic about the possibilities of government and politics, and seven years ago he began touting Obama as a purifying revelation to both. [snip]

NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS — The Obama campaign, and the Obama presidency, haven’t done a consistent or convincing job of touting whatever good news there is — and there are increasing amounts of it — about the economy. [snip]

FAILURE TO PACKAGE A LEGISLATIVE ATTACK — [snip]

CALLING IT “OBAMACARE” — In private polls for members of Congress, majorities of voters support the individual measures that comprise the landmark Affordable Care Act. But in most polls, the percentages drop when votes are asked if they support “Obamacare” — in one poll in a swing district, support dropped by 15 percentage points.

FAILURE TO PHONE, PRETEND TO FRIENDS –“

Fineman still thinks the failure is a failure to communicate. It’s sad.

“In a stark warning on the eve of the second presidential debate, veteran Democratic strategists Stanley B. Greenberg and James Carville write in a newly released memo that the campaign “has reached a tipping point” that could cost President Obama reelection if he does not present a more compelling vision for the next four years.

“The first debate really did disrupt the race and presents a painful real-time test of what happens when the president tries to convince people of progress and offer[s] a very modest vision of future change,” the two say in a Democracy Corps memo cowritten with Erica Seifert, a senior associate at Greenberg’s polling firm. “Voters are not looking for continuity, but changes that help the average Joe.”

In an interview, Greenberg said that at the first debate, Mitt Romney caused many voters who are worried about the nation’s direction to view him in a new light, mostly by convincing them he had aggressive plans to improve the economy — even as Obama conveyed little about goals of his own.”

“That backward-looking focus, centered on defending his first term, they write, gave Romney “the opportunity to be heard as the voice of change.” And that, they insist, is dangerous for Obama because “it is clear … that voters do not want a continuation, they want change.” Moreover, they write, for many voters “conservatives have plausible things to say about the future, particularly on spending and debt.”

Tonight Barack Obama will shout “forward”. Mitt Romney will take out the map and show the car is in the ditch and might roll over and fall over the cliff. That’s what tonight is about.

DickMorrisTweet #debates focus group on screen doesn’t like attack by Obama Romney should have insisted on the floor. Cant led moderator run over him
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Romney has good comeback on auto industry. Necessary bankruptcy. Good comeback. Obama sounds bad attacking

An audience member asks Obama if he agrees with his Energy Secretary that his job is not to reduce gas prices. Obama starts a long winded response that is about what he thinks not whether he agrees with Chu or not.

Is anyone watching CNN and do they still have those response lines up? We can’t imagine Obama is doing well with this response at all.

I’m watching a bit online, when romney speaks I listen when OTurd speaks, I put it on mute with captions. The bit I heard, OTurd doesn’t sound assertive, he sounds angry, aggressive, but angry, not passionate, angry.

If the POS is even half-way animated and engaged, MSM will exclaim that it was a huge victory for The Once. Hell, I’ll bet they have the copy ready to go, along with some doctored polls. They were unprepared for their darling to bomb last time. They’ll try very hard not to allow it to happen again.

Romney says let’s look at Obama’s record not listen to his words. Then Romney uses numbers and facts to crush Obama. Romney is talking oil, coal, gas, solar. Romney says in coal country people grab his arm and as him to save them. Romney also brings up the Obama quote about his plans to bankrupt clean coal producers.

Obama keeps calling Romney a liar. He does this standing in front of Romney and staring him in the face. Obama keeps doing that breathy thing with his voice to feign sympathy.

Romney strikes back. He interrogates Obama directly. Obama takes time to talk about everything except answer Romney’s question. This is a very tense moment at both candidates circle each other. This is a Hofstra Halloween Horror moment.

Romney continues to pummel as Obama tries to interrupt. Romney talks about his plans and about Obama’s failed polices.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Obama can never persuade people that he is pro-oil. Romney stood up to Obama when he tried to interrupt
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Nobody believes that low gas prices were due to collapse of economy. They never went down. Under prosperity they were lower

Audience member asks questions on Romney’s tax plan. Romney uses Biden’s words in response and states the middle class has been buried these past four years and that is why he wants to lower taxes for the middle class while making sure upper income taxpayers do not pay less. Romney explains his tax cut plans in detail.

BO: Middle class has been hit over the past decades…past 20 yrs. Hey BO what about these past 4 years, specifically. Pushes more class war fare rhetoric concerning R’s view on lower taxes across the board, which inc the rich.

Romney responds that he wants to bring rates down to help small business. Romney says this is about jobs. He explains that less taxes on small businesses will mean more jobs as they hire new workers. Romney talks about women losing jobs. 5 point plan. Obama starts to laugh but catches himself.

Crowley to Obama quotes Romney’s plans and asks if this is settled? This is a softball to save Obama.

Obama attacks Romney and calls him a liar. Obama cites the dollar numbers of Romney tax cuts and that Romney says this will not raise the deficit. Obama then cites Big Bird, calls Romney plans “sketchy”.

Crowley asks Romney if the numbers don’t add up will he look to raise taxes?

Romney cites his history of balancing budgets, business career, and successes. Romney then calls out Obama’s record of failure on debt and deficits. “The road to Greece.” Obama interrupts and Crowley tries to stop the discussion.

moon, I think I tilt more to romney because this is the first time romney had to explain his points of view with no liberal Obot LSM filter. And OTurd is just looking very angry and kind of all over the place. Very defensive and looks just agitated.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Now, at last, a question on which Obama has innate credibility. Obama is effective in his biography. Glass ceiling
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Road to Greece is excellent. Obama’s problem is that on the underlying questions of deficits and gas he is not credible
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Who blew up the deficit? Obama! It can be paid for by cutting spending.

And OTurd is just looking very angry and kind of all over the place. Very defensive and looks just agitated.
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It is a bitter thing for a dictator to see his power slipping away before 60 million of his erstwhile subjects.

Young woman asks Obama about pay equity for women. Is she really an undecided voter? This is a fluffed pillow for Obama to weasel and bamboozle on. Obama delivers his usual rubbish.

Romney talks about only men applying for jobs when he was governor. He says there was a concerted effort to bring in women. Went to women’s groups. Says a nationwide study declared that his government had the most women in powerful positions. Romney talks about flexible schedules.

This is probably Romney’s finest answer thus far. Perhaps because it was unexpected that he would be so good on this is why we give good grades on this answer. Romney says “This is what I’ve done. I know what it takes to fix the economy. This is not a strong economy.” Talks about women and graduating young people.

BO is lost here…. started with Ledbetter Act health care blah blah balh…. two daughters to make sure they have a future.
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They travel thoughout the world, to the best places, with secret service detachments. Their future is not an issue.

Romney says that he is different from Bush in that he will crack down on China and sign free trade agreements with Latin America. Another difference is he will reduce the deficit which Obama promised but failed to do. Also will help small business. “My priority is jobs. President Bush had a different path for a different time.”

Obama says he came in during hard times. Blame Bush. Calls Romney a liar. Says his plans are the same as Bush. Says Romney invested in companies that invested in China and invests in companies that spy on Chinese citizens. Obama says he has fought against China and Romney opposed fighting China.

Obama praises Bush for Planned Parenthood support and other policies. Calls Romney extreme.

many of the women in my family who are watching this, a couple voted for Oturd last time, basically said OTurd just looks like a rambling bully, Romney much more gentlemanly, tough yes, but not a bully.

I think Barry thinks if he speaks more that means he’s more convincing and will get more votes. Articulate convincing arguments don’t need rambling arguments. Barry’s a rambling bully, he’s talking more, but says nothing of value or substance.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Romney has very good answer on middle class Romney shows great knowledge and fluency with stats.
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DickMorrisTweet #debates “I think you know better” is excellent line. He’ll do more of same. Good attack. Good point on immigration. Good rendition

Romney replies. “I think you know better.” “If you elect Obama you know what you will get – a repeat of the last four years.” Obama promised in his plan unemployment would be 5.4%. Not done. On Social Security, immigration, Medicare, deficit cut in half, middle class reduction in health care costs but got an increase, middle class getting crushed, does not know how to get the economy working, unemployment has not been reduced, more people in poverty, lots more people on food stamps, economy growing more slowly this year that last year and last year less than previous year, his policies have not worked.

Really strong answer from Romney. Is this the new best answer?

Romney continues: “Obama has tried but his policies have failed. We have a record to look at.” Median incomes down.

don’t need rambling arguments. Barry’s a rambling bully, he’s talking more, but says nothing of value or substance
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He’s a rambling wreck from Harvard tech and a visiting professor of law. What do we expect. Sounds like he is channeling his inner Jerimiah Wright. How Christian of him.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Romney is doing as well as he can on immigration. But his answer on anchor babies getting a path to citizenship is a good one
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Immigation question. Welcome legal immigrants good line. No drivers licenses to illegal arrivals. Pathway to residence for kids
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Romney immigration response: Wants streamlined immigration process. Cites respect for immigrants and his parents born in Mexico and his wife from Wales. Will not grant amnesty. Employer verification system. No immigration magnets. There should be a pathway for children of illegal immigrants.

Obama promised in his first year to pass comprehensive immigration reform. Did not even submit such legislation even though he had full control of the legislature.

Obama replies with a “nation of immigrants” flowery language. Does not explain why he did not pass comprehensive immigration law as he promised even though he controlled the Congress.

morris is scoring this debate question by question. But not all questions are of equal importance to the electorate. That is where his scoring method can be a little misleading. Obama has an advantage on the soft issues–like glass ceiling and immigration. But Romney has the clear advantage when it comes to hard issues like the economy which matter to men and women of all races.

Romney says he wanted e-verify to go national. Romney quotes from Univision interview and says Obama promised but did not even file legislation in the congress he controlled.

Romney not in favor of rounding up people and deporting them.

Obama rudely interrupts but Romney holds his ground. Romney takes the time to explain his money is in a trust fund. Asks Obama if he has looked at his own pensions and that he too has investments in China.

Obama calls Romney a liar on e=verify and says that Romney meant support for the Arizona law.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Romney hits home immigration question why didn’t you introduce law. good he gets back to China. Romney takes the floor well
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Obama plays the race card very overtly. A child who looks like your child or mine and might not be a citizen…” Low blow

Obama won big on W policies and equal treatment for women and on taxes before that. He is way ahead.”

Gonztx, perhaps, those are very radical liberals.

But really most people no longer care about Bush, hell I would vote for George W Bush over OTurd. And I could not stand GWB, but he’s a heck of alot better than the fraud Barry. How long are they going to trot out the “blame bush” card, people don’t care anymore about blame, they want results. And a woman-hating loser like Matthews hardly speaks for women, and where was he in 2008, that’s right, *crickets*

Obama praises diplomats. Says he called to beef up security and to hold failures to account. Obama promises revenge. Obama attacks Romney press release. Says that is not how a commander in chief operates.

Based on what I say, its not a outright smackdown like the first debate, but a confirmation that the romney people saw in the first debate wasn’t a fluke. This debate was reassurance for voters of Romney.

The Obot LSM will of course say their Messiah Barry won, but it still tilts Romney’s way this second debate. People will see what they saw with their own eyes, no matter what the OBot LSM spins for their Messiah.

DickMorrisTweet #debates Education issue must focus on school choice which Obama has not touched.
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DickMorrisTweet #debates ROMNEY AHEAD 6-3. Good bipartisan ansswer by Romney.Obama just doesn’t look good when he’s scoring points and making hits
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In tennis, 6-3 is a set. And if there is only one complete set, it is also the match.

Does BO EVER, EVER really answer a question. Rambling man makes a lot of stops but never answers the question. When he finishes rambling you never know where he is going to end up…Hong Kong or Hawaii or La La Land.

DickMorrisTweet #debates not as big as first debate, but a definite win nonetheless. Romney will continue momentum as a result of this debate
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DickMorrisTweet #debates Obama opens himself on China. Very good hit on Obama over China. Key shots by Romney. This debate is a win for Romney.
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pm317, I bet an ad like that will be on YouTube shortly. Also, I think the Romney campaign should have an ad with that energy confrontation early in the debate where Obama wouldn’t answer and show it in states where that issue is important…

Apparently Obots and the currents idiot dems think interrupting just to interrupt another argument/point of view is “aggressive”. Most independents do not see it that way, they actually want to hear that other argument with facts and would find it very annoying to not be able to hear it.

I think Big bird is not in the same league as Romney, Romney is way above the AFFIRMATIVE action bird.
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No doubt about it. A crisp set of answers and a genial nature vs a rambing wreck from harvard tech with a track record of failure.

I had to watch the ending. Barry is just sounding so nasty at this point, almost like he’s throwing the kitchen sink at Romney. I don’t like this. NO real plans for the next 4 years, but rather going after romney as a person.

I honestly do not see how this will stop the momentum for romney. Only if Romney had just fallen flat on his face, which he did not. I don’t think anyone of any level of independence will like the personal attacks on Romney or the bullying, rambling and no specifics on how the next 4 years will be different than the last 4.

Obot LSM will call it for OTurd, but the real people who saw this unfiltered will not.

Is there anybody here who thinks they can stand to see or hear Rambling Barack for another four years? My dislike of him during his 2008 campaign and attacks on Hillary have now turned to pure disgust and loathing.

All Obama does is attack or say a bunch of words and I get lost in trying to follow what he is saying and it is with almost all his answers…no they were not answers…just rambling words.

I can’t remember when I’ve heard a person just talk and talk, NEVER answer a question and then you have no idea what they just said when they finish.

Obama had to win. All the pundits said that. But he lost. He lost on style, he lost on demeanor, and he lost on substance. The media fails to realize that hard as they may try, you cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Romney campaign could make a devastating ad by having a clip of Crowley/Obama claiming he said it was a terrorist attack the day after and the actual words he said that day in the Rose garden. It would not only show Obama to be a liar but also how the media protects him.

The main this did is reassure voters about Romney. Even the former Obots in my family are now leaning towards Romney, they were after the first debate, but this sort of reassured them about voting for romney.

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October 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Crowley lied. Obama did not say Benghazi was a terror attack the day after in the Rose Garden.
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CNN has some exposure here. How do we get that fact to FOX, so they can use it against them? She lied, and that lie must not go unanswered. Also, it should be sent to the Wall Street Journal. Lying by the moderator is beyond the pale. They need to make an example of her over that one. And, equally important, the lie must be rebutted so the public is clear that there is a cover-up here.

okay. he called it a terror attack. BUT he attributed that terror attack to the video and not al Qaeda. Terror is simply an adjective. The root cause is the issue. And for two weeks he mislead us on this issue. And Rice did so as well, by going so far as to say that it was caused by the video and was NOT a terrorist attack.

tim
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I agree admin, she lied, and made people think what she said was the correct facts, when it fact it was her opinion.
And she interrupted Romney to “correct” Romney with the wrong information.
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tim, watch the video. Obama did call it an attack, but was already laying down the groundwork for the “Mohammad vide” excuse when he talked about disrepecting any religion. Romney got Crowley to admit it was 2 weeks before they quit that mantra.

The people who said Obama won are the same people who watch cnn because because it supports Obama. How relevant is a poll of those people? Half of them probably did not even watch the debate, but phoned in or were paid to phone in to deliver their partisan message.

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October 16th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Crowley lied. Obama did not say Benghazi was a terror attack the day after in the Rose Garden.
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WE WILL CONFRONT TERRORISM WHEN IT HAPPENS. BUT THIS WAS A RESPONSE TO A VIDEO.