Media could be manipulated to bring about victory for one side or the other.
But surely manipulating opinion to bring about an exact draw would be horrendously difficult. How can anyone fine-tune an operation as closely as
that?

Unfortunately the independants and the greens are the party's most likely to stop this country from moving forward... a vote for the greens or any
other independant is in reality a protest vote.
The labour and liberal parties whistle the same tune on a different scale and the greens are in the corner pinging their little triangle..... All I
can say is GM for PM!

Originally posted by spearhead
Unfortunately the independants and the greens are the party's most likely to stop this country from moving forward... a vote for the greens or any
other independant is in reality a protest vote.
The labour and liberal parties whistle the same tune on a different scale and the greens are in the corner pinging their little triangle..... All I
can say is GM for PM!

Some are funny some are worried, i reckon the worried ones need not too. we are one, but we are many, we live in a great country that most of the
world don't even know which coast NZ sits on let alone what a kangaroo is

Originally posted by jonhplayer
What will happen if your guys cant decide who takes power? will the queen of england have to choose like she would in britain?

The lower house will put it to a vote. The independents have to vote one way or the other. We will then officially have a Prime Minister.
In essence, whoever gets the most votes wins the job.

But that will not fix the basic problem.
One of two things could then happen.

The politicians themselves could decide to hold a fresh Federal election.
There are several ways that could happen, they could all just agree to do it, or there are triggers such as the blocking of supply, which would force
a new election.

The other way would be if the Governor General is petitioned, or just decides Herself, that things cannot continue on in chaos.
The Governor general then dismisses Parliament, and forces a Federal election, just as happened when the Whitlam Government was sacked.

I would guess that we will all be back shoving more pieces of paper into ballot boxes fairly soon.

Theres been talk today of the 3 independants toying with the idea of forming a government using ministers from both Labour and Liberal parties.

The concept sounds good, but in practise I do not know how it would work successfully.

You may aswell form a super-co-alition and run the country forever without any decent opposition.....

Dont know if it would be good for democracy.

I wonder also are there any "dark-forces" behind the scenes talking to these 3 independants to sway them a certain way.

dont like the way it has panned out personally, just hope whatever comes out of it is for the benefit of the country. I think the Governor general
should stay out of the decision making process in this case, due to the conflict of interest with Bill Shorten.

Media could be manipulated to bring about victory for one side or the other.
But surely manipulating opinion to bring about an exact draw would be horrendously difficult. How can anyone fine-tune an operation as closely as
that?

1.constant polling before the election
2.bothe parties having no real substance
3.advertising.
4.marketing
5.T.V personalities showing bias this way or that in order to sway votes.
6.very bad news in local electorates
7.very good news in local electorates.

see, in order to have a favorable outcome, you don't need to buy every vote or tell every individual how to vote, simply manipulate small pockets of
the population.

example, I rarely use fb for social networking, yet everytime I logged on, there was a very bad picture of Tony Abbot.
who was fb targeting?
the younger generation

The Governor General is Bill Shortens mother in law.One has to go as it is a conflict of interest,it wont be Shorten because he will rise to the top
of the alp very soon.The GG cannot rule under these circumstances.

Do not forget when you vote,they supply you with a grey lead PENCIL.
All ballot papers are filled out with pencil which is easily removed.
Why not offer pens? Ink is more permanent harder to rub out and alter.

Media manipulation was in fine form,on yahoo i done a survey which had the libs at about 60% of the vote,the article on the same page saying how
labour was winning the poles,i had to laugh.

So whats the bet Americas next one will be tight too?

Setting up instability in governments to push another agenda forward,one government.

I think in this situation because the Governor General represents the queen, the queen herself should get invovled and mediate since she doesnt have
any allegiances or conflicts of interest with any of the major parties.

The Governor general has in the past commented on labouir policies aswell, supporting the Carbon tax proposed by kevin Rudd, so she has defaulted her
obligations as a GG in this situation by opening her mouth.

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