We get this on British boards too. Why should I waste one second of my valuable time reading some other culture's religious books. Who cares.

Well when the religious books of other cultures teach that your kind needs to be killed, then this other culture goes out and works tireless for hundreds of years to accomplish that goal, I think that is something you should care about.

Until you understand the basis for their hatred of you, you will be powerless to resist it. If you would have your people survive you need to educate yourself regarding the religious indoctrination of your enemy.

For the most part, yes, I agree with the message in both of those posts, since a Constitutional Republic is being advocated.

You seem to have misgivings about a hypothetical armed revolution, but America is a Constitutional Republic founded upon armed revolution.

This begs the question as to whether you oppose violence and war in ALL instances, or only when the cause is WN.

If it's the former, then you apparently have valid reasons for opposing all forms of government and political factions in the world, no matter if they shoot political prisoners or arrest people for drunk driving. If you're against violence on principle, then you'd have to be against any and all uses of force regardless of the circumstances.

If it's the latter, and if you support some use of force in certain circumstances, then that brings us back to the original question: What are your valid reasons for not supporting WN?

Well when the religious books of other cultures teach that your kind needs to be killed, then this other culture goes out and works tireless for hundreds of years to accomplish that goal, I think that is something you should care about.

Until you understand the basis for their hatred of you, you will be powerless to resist it. If you would have your people survive you need to educate yourself regarding the religious indoctrination of your enemy.

Agreed - having been brought up on the bible I am amazed how other cultures own religious teachings brain-wash them into hating us and wishing us dead.

Maybe we should all get more educated on it.

To be honest when I see those incredibly long posts with all that stuff in it - I start nodding off - will try to stay more focused on it

You haven't really explained why you oppose those two posts, in fact you give the impression that you've gone out of your way to avoid explaining why you oppose those.

No one has advocated a revolution, or anything illegal, they have merely expressed the belief that they feel that with the increasing corruption of our government, and the increasing abuses by our corrupt government, that it is possibly inevitable that such a thing will occur.

Now surely if that concerns you then your greater concern would be in preventing it from occurring, which would cause you to oppose the government, who are making it more and more inevitable, and not us, who are reporting on this ever more possible eventuality.

You came here making noises suggesting you were supportive of our cause, and opposed to the obvious corruptions of our government, but now you appear to have flip-flopped to a completely different position, without any real explanation.

The only way out from under their thumb obviously is resistance with force. In other words, rebellion.

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You came here making noises suggesting you were supportive of our cause, and opposed to the obvious corruptions of our government, but now you appear to have flip-flopped to a completely different position, without any real explanation.

I did not flip-flop on anything. Stormfront did.
I had not yet figured this out when I entered this thread, so I was writing with a big misconception of what the thread was about.

Nationalists in the USA should convince the people. This should be done in the normal, legal and democratic way: the same way nationalists in Europe do. I do not consider the democratic process too broken to participate. Your "revolution" will bring nothing but bloodshed and suffering.

The only situation in which a revolution could be justifiable is if a majority of your people support you. In that case there is true oppression going on. You do not have any support.

I have nothing further to discuss with those who agree with Jack Boot, which includes you and SDY6401. As I wrote earlier, you are on the wrong track.

That's not advocating a revolution, as well you know, that's observing that it's possibly inevitable.

There is a huge difference.

If that was actually advocating revolution then the FBI would have visited Mr Boots house by now, to pick him up.

And that's obvious enough, even after you've taken the juiciest line you could find, and removed it from it's context.

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I did not flip-flop on anything.

See above, you picked up on one observation, took it out of context, and implied it meant something different, and then suddenly changed your position 180 degrees.

It was a very obvious flip-flop.

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Stormfront did.

Not at all, Stormfronts position hasn't changed in this thread, only your own, but the fact you're trying to paint it differently does pose more and more questions about what your real agenda is.

I find it very suspicious that you have flip-flopped so dramatically, on the flimsiest of pretenses.

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Nationalists in the USA should convince the people. This should be done in the normal, legal and democratic way: the same way nationalists in Europe do. I do not consider the democratic process too broken to participate. Your "revolution" will bring nothing but bloodshed and suffering.

You see, here you adopt a position again, that both misrepresents the people here, and also your position.

You say: "Nationalists in the USA should convince the people. This should be done in the normal, legal and democratic way"

We say: "We look for a peaceful solution, we look for a legal solution, we spend a lot of time trying to reach out to the masses, to educate them, and to try and build a populist movement, that will hopefully, through sheer force of numbers, force the usurpers on Capital Hill to back down"

But you say we're wrong?

And then for good measure:

You say: "Your "revolution" will bring nothing but bloodshed and suffering."

We say: "Unfortunately we live in a world where our government is mobilizing against us, and there is the very real chance that we will have no choice but to take up arms to defend ourselves."

And you pretend we're advocating a revolution, instead of being honest, and acknowledging that what we're saying is that current government strategies mean that it's possibly inevitable that a revolution may take place.

So why not stop playing the games, and start being honest?

I do get tired of antis that come here and try to play little games like you do.

If you truly believe in what you do then you should have the courage of your convictions, and speak straight faced, and honestly, instead of putting on these childish pantomimes.

Your little charade only further underlines the intellectual bankruptcy of the anti, and further bolsters the belief that White Nationalism is the right, and honest path.

I'm not sure the secret police will draw so fine a line, we shall see, but if I advocate any kind of revolution it is a counter-revolution, to remove those treasonous snakes from power over us who are effectively and with malice aforethought abolishing the United States as a Constitutional republic and making of it a province in the globalist New World Order. As I say, it is they overthrowing the republic. Not us.

Furthermore I have always advocated, and advocate now, that the path we must follow is to win hearts and minds, or we stand no chance at all either at the polls or in any armed struggle against the usurpers, the plutocrats and their mercenaries.

I have never advocated and do not now advocate rising up in violent resistance as a mob, a militia, or any other means aside from civilian-authorized military operations under the command of qualified officers in a duly-established armed service of a legitimate government, whether that government is established by secession or other declaration of independence.

I have never and will never advocate military action or the use of arms without the form and substance of legitimate civilian-controlled government. To establish and preserve such a government, a government of our own, for our own interests, may very well require warfare.

I'm not sure the secret police will draw so fine a line, we shall see, but if I advocate any kind of revolution it is a counter-revolution, to remove those treasonous snakes from power over us who are effectively and with malice aforethought abolishing the United States as a Constitutional republic and making of it a province in the globalist New World Order. As I say, it is they overthrowing the republic. Not us.

Furthermore I have always advocated, and advocate now, that the path we must follow is to win hearts and minds, or we stand no chance at all either at the polls or in any armed struggle against the usurpers, the plutocrats and their mercenaries.

I have never advocated and do not now advocate rising up in violent resistance as a mob, a militia, or any other means aside from civilian-authorized military operations under the command of qualified officers in a duly-established armed service of a legitimate government, whether that government is established by secession or other declaration of independence.

I have never and will never advocate military action or the use of arms without the form and substance of legitimate civilian-controlled government. To establish and preserve such a government, a government of our own, for our own interests, may very well require warfare.

Which clarification means a hill of beans to the Jews, or Al Gore. So come and get me already.

Yep.

The missing part, the key, IMO is an economic disaster sufficient to motivate the general European-derived population of the country, similar to what happened in Germany during the 30's that eventually spelled doom for the Weimar government.

Thus far, the masses are profoundly unmotivated. Meantime, a media mission such as what we have here is just the ticket.

From Waaay Out West,

--HLM

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