fusillade762:He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Tarkus:fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?

We'll see how stand your ground plays out on this one. Normally I say, he's out of luck. But then there is the guy who just got away shooting the next person he saw because some girls were picking on his daughter.

Tarkus:fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

fusillade762:He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

This.

If I'm on the road at 5am, I have a hell of a lot better things to do than to get personally involved in a farking misdemeanor.

Tarkus:fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Besides, "You can get away with murder in Florida"?

Heh, yeah. Though on second thought the cops probably would have shot him too.

Well, I got keelhauled awhile back for saying that young women can change how they are regarded and treated by changing how they dress and act. Just in cast there is a young black kid left who doesn't get it yet, let me suggest that the phrase "naked black man running down Hollywood Boulevard in south Florida" should, maybe, set off a little alarm in one's head. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that self preservation is also an important consideration.

This About That:ust in cast there is a young black kid left who doesn't get it yet, let me suggest that the phrase "naked black man running down Hollywood Boulevard in south Florida" should, maybe, set off a little alarm in one's head.

Tarkus:fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

Rhino_man:Tarkus: fusillade762: He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

My point is that running down the street naked is a poor idea no matter what your race, but you'd also not expect to be killed for it. Tossed in jail, sure, but your "advice" to black kids not to run down the street because of how it looks is just sheer nonsense.

My point is that running down the street naked is a poor idea no matter what your race, but you'd also not expect to be killed for it. Tossed in jail, sure, but your "advice" to black kids not to run down the street because of how it looks is just sheer nonsense.

On the one hand, I think I should be free to do whatever the Hell I want. On the other hand, you should ordinarily try not to attract the attention of grizzly bears, piranhas, and racist idiots with guns. Ranting about how unfair and how racist it is encourages impressionable people to do stupid things in defense of doing whatever the Hell I want. Do you want to be responsible for the consequences? Sure, you can deny responsibility, since you probably won't know any of the victims, but you are still responsible. So am I. So, I'm throwing a post about not acting stupid where it will get you killed. Those who are inclined and capable can take on the dangerous animals and dangerous idiots, but these already know who they are. For the rest of us, not acting the fool is generally better.

My point is that running down the street naked is a poor idea no matter what your race, but you'd also not expect to be killed for it. Tossed in jail, sure, but your "advice" to black kids not to run down the street because of how it looks is just sheer nonsense.

And another thing. What is it with the feigned indignity. You quoted me as advising a black kid not to run down the street. Utter bullshiat. I said that a black kid running down the main drag in south Florida is asking for trouble. Do you think anyone here has failed to notice you misquoting me to cover up the fact that you have little to say?

violentsalvation:I don't get it. If I see some naked dude running down the road I'm going to give him a couple cheers "woo no pants!", honk the horn a few times, and hope he doesn't wind up on a sex offender registry.

fusillade762:He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

The guy drove past, interest piqued, he came back around and offers Naked Man a ride. Thankful Naked Man approaches and Driver propositions him for sex. Naked Man becomes frustrated, lots of name-calling and get-the-f*ck-off-me's. Driver shoots Naked Man, panics, then remembers that October to February is "Running Black Kid" season in Florida.

So is the family of the victim going to hire some mercenaries to torture his "friends" several months before letting they die of exposure? I'm assuming they'll use one of the deli slicers on their fingers and toes first. And a hot iron on standby to cauterize the wounds each time they slice. Once the fingers and toes are gone, they'll move to the limbs.

Then they cut off their noses and tongues. If males, castrate them. If females, hot hair irons into their hoohaa.

After a month or so of this toss them on the side of the road with placards stating it was so worth it to play that joke on their "friend".

fusillade762:He told detectives he was driving west on Hollywood Boulevard between 5 and 5:30 a.m. Oct. 6 when he spotted the nude man. He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Oh for f*ck's sake. Call the goddamn cops and let them deal with it. Did no one learn anything from the Martin shooting?

That was the point of the story where I started assuming the shooter was drunk off his arse. Probably hasn't been charged yet because they haven't finished counting how many laws he broke yet.

Bungles:I'm always baffled how in America somebody can shoot somebody and that person is not arrested just as a matter of course, regardless of the "circumstances", because it's a crime being investigated.

Stand Your Ground laws make it very easy to get away with murder if there aren't any witnesses to contradict the shooter's statement (and considering it was 5am, there probably were no witnesses). As long as you say "afraid for my life", you're good. It's essentially a magic phrase that makes you immune to a murder charge.

This shiat is gonna keep happening in states that pass SYG laws. Honestly, I'm surprised there's not more of it.

abhorrent1:He passed by him, then turned around and went back, he told police.

Everything is my business and I must get involved!

Its like that in smaller communities, and part of the reason they can manage problems in their own way. People don't ignore unusual things.

As for this incident, something seems to be missing from the story.Snowflake punches his friend in the face, friend takes off with snowflakes cloths (because being nude at the beach all night is normal). Snowflake walks home nude, ends up in confrontation with curious resident (I'm guessing there's a few more punches involved) and killed.

The missing ingredient is probably drugs.

/I'm wondering if the motorists initial intention was to try and help this guy but he started to catch blows for his trouble./in retrospect the motorist probably should have called the cops,/so they could do the shooting and everyone wins.

Bungles:I'm always baffled how in America somebody can shoot somebody and that person is not arrested just as a matter of course, regardless of the "circumstances", because it's a crime being investigated.

ditto. also that seemingly intelligent people seem completely fine with that lack of investigation, and the shooting in the first place

there are certain conclusions one could draw but they're significant, so I hesitate

Gunther:This shiat is gonna keep happening in states that pass SYG laws. Honestly, I'm surprised there's not more of it.

In all fairness, Florida interprets SYG in a very strange way in order to make this the case. In most states, "stand your ground" just means that you aren't legally obligated to submit to the commission of a crime against you in order to avoid being charged with murder. Vague feelings of unease and situations that you initiate yourself generally don't fly.

Essentially in most states it's an expansion of self-defense to include defense against certain other crimes, like robbery and sexual assault, where previously you could only use deadly force in defense against murder. You'd still have to prove with the usual standards of proof that the other guy was, in fact, committing one of those crimes for the defense to apply.