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Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

This is going to sound crazy but Nagato should not be added into the top 10.

Nagato, is to situational to be added in top 10 to have him at his peak of health you take away his experience with the Rinnegan. Nagato can only be added into the top 10 if he is using his 6 paths tech.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Your right. Nagato did not have the ability to use the paths before he summoned Gedo Mazo as well as he did during his fight with Naruto.

I also believe that the six paths of pein where stronger than Nagato using the paths alone, because the ability to use the paths from different angles with the shared vision, and how impossibly difficult it is to figure out all the secrets of the paths and Nagato controlling them from far away.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Nagato was a boss by the time jiraiya stopped training him. What people are saying is that if nagato hadn't used the gedo statue on hanzos men, he would have been healthy. A full and healthy nagato is damn near god status

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Originally Posted by Invsblphntm

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You made this thread so many times; it's getting ridiculous.

Clearly, Nagato possessed immense knowledge of the Rin'negan before his legs being burned via Obito. Him summoning the Gedō Mazō, the outer shell of the Ten Tails, the most powerful of the Rikudo jutsu, should be viable proof, but of course you can not accept this...

agreed @bold, if he could summon the gedo mazo he should be able to use the other paths.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Nagato is more powerful than the Pains, however since he's immobile he's still vulnerable to strategies like Jiraiya's one to take away the pains vision, Naruto's ones of distraction or Itachi's. strength is the not the same as power, the six paths of pain are still more powerful than any other shinobi outside bm naruto, madara, hashirama and juubito. and their linked vision and superior numbers give him an almost unassailable advtange.

also, that naruto defeated pain means little. a. he had a lot of accumulated knowledge which counts a lot in pain's case where his mystery is one of his strongest assets. b. the deva path wasnt functioning for most of the fight (imagine say itachi w/o susanoo in the sasuke fight, he'd be a little pile of ash right now) and c. naruto survived mostly because he went full kyuubi.

the only persons Pain would definitely not beat are current Naruto, Hashirama, Juubito (or any version of Obito really) and Madara. DSM Kabuto, EMS Sasuke, prime Hanzou and Minato are doubtful, maybe Hiruzen once Kishi decides how powerful he really is. so he's still top ten easily.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Yo man what is this is crazy sh*t that is going on when people make there top 10. Apparently there is a Nagato that is stronger then the Nagato who was the 6 paths of pain.

Now people need to realize that Nagato at his strongest was with the pains. Whether you like it or not is up to you. But it is a simple manga fact.

There is no "Healthy , and experienced with Rinnegan" Nagato in Naruto-verse. That Nagato didn't exist. So why do people keep making this imaginary Nagato to put into top 10s, instead of just Pain or Nagato... But people like to say "Nagato (healthy)".... wtf.

Thats true. Healthy, alive and experienced Nagato is character taken stright from fanfiction.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

It's your assumption that Nagato's not experienced with the rinnengan before loosing his legs. Apparently Obito's using rinne tensei after a few days of having the rinnengan. Also all of edo Nagato's feats are possible during life.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Originally Posted by Midday

It's your assumption that Nagato's not experienced with the rinnengan before loosing his legs. Apparently Obito's using rinne tensei after a few days of having the rinnengan. Also all of edo Nagato's feats are possible during life.

If he was experienced he would just pwn them all with big Shinra Tensei, insted of using technique that turned him into a crippled man. Simple logic.

Re: Pain is different from Nagato? lol

Originally Posted by Turson

If he was experienced he would just pwn them all with big Shinra Tensei, insted of using technique that turned him into a crippled man. Simple logic.

Using a big shinra tensei makes sense while he's trying to protect people as well? He sacrificed his legs only to save Konan which is what made him crippled. How is 10 years or so not experienced when he was able to master every single element under Jiriya when he was only around for a few years?