Must See TV - Bruce Arians A Football Life

Subject: Must See TV - Bruce Arians A Football Life Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:12 pm

The NFL Network has a series called A Football Life.

Showcasing the lives and careers of legendary players, coaches and executives, NFL Films examines the untold stories of the most influential NFL icons with unprecedented access. Each film tells the story of how their legacy is forever intertwined in the fabric of NFL history.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-life

Chuck Noll A Football Life? - noBill Cowher A Football Life? - nopeMike Tomlin A Football Life - nada

But we do have this upcoming episode on one of the truly most influential NFL icons

Yeah I'm going to have to say that he probably hasn't worked himself up to having an episode of that show about him. I wouldn't call him an NFL legend by any means just yet. I think he's a good Head Coach, and a good leader, but is he deserving of being on the same show as the likes of actual NFL legends? Not yet.

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"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." - Jack Lambert

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

I don't care where his offense ranked - his offenses win and that's what matters more.

And as far as the Number One Defense is concerned (a statistical truth perhaps, but a debatable reality), that may certainly have helped but it can't explain the consistent success Arians continued to have after he left Pittsburgh.

You know it IS possible that the sometimes schizo offense we had back then had more to do with Ben than with Arians, especially since there has been no evidence of that under Arians with either Indy or with Arizona. I'll admit that our offense is more stable now, but I wonder how much of that is Haley and how much is simply the result of Ben maturing and playing less recklessly.

Why do so many Steeler fans think of Arians as some sort of evil entity?Why is it so hard for them to simply admit that he's a good coach?

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

I don't care where his offense ranked - his offenses win and that's what matters more.

And as far as the Number One Defense is concerned (a statistical truth perhaps, but a debatable reality), that may certainly have helped but it can't explain the consistent success Arians continued to have after he left Pittsburgh.

You know it IS possible that the sometimes schizo offense we had back then had more to do with Ben than with Arians, especially since there has been no evidence of that under Arians with either Indy or with Arizona. I'll admit that our offense is more stable now, but I wonder how much of that is Haley and how much is simply the result of Ben maturing and playing less recklessly.

Why do so many Steeler fans think of Arians as some sort of evil entity?Why is it so hard for them to simply admit that he's a good coach?

Or do they just miss him?

Agree to disagree I guess, I'll take this current offense over any shit sandwich he threw together in Pittsburgh.

I don't deny he did a good job after he left us though, but he underachieved for us.

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

I don't care where his offense ranked - his offenses win and that's what matters more.

And as far as the Number One Defense is concerned (a statistical truth perhaps, but a debatable reality), that may certainly have helped but it can't explain the consistent success Arians continued to have after he left Pittsburgh.

You know it IS possible that the sometimes schizo offense we had back then had more to do with Ben than with Arians, especially since there has been no evidence of that under Arians with either Indy or with Arizona. I'll admit that our offense is more stable now, but I wonder how much of that is Haley and how much is simply the result of Ben maturing and playing less recklessly.

Why do so many Steeler fans think of Arians as some sort of evil entity?Why is it so hard for them to simply admit that he's a good coach?

Or do they just miss him?

Agree to disagree I guess, I'll take this current offense over any shit sandwich he threw together in Pittsburgh.

I don't deny he did a good job after he left us though, but he underachieved for us.

Fair enough.

But no matter how wacky it got back then it was a fun five years to watch Steeler football (and the two trips to the SB didn't hurt either).

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

I don't care where his offense ranked - his offenses win and that's what matters more.

And as far as the Number One Defense is concerned (a statistical truth perhaps, but a debatable reality), that may certainly have helped but it can't explain the consistent success Arians continued to have after he left Pittsburgh.

You know it IS possible that the sometimes schizo offense we had back then had more to do with Ben than with Arians, especially since there has been no evidence of that under Arians with either Indy or with Arizona. I'll admit that our offense is more stable now, but I wonder how much of that is Haley and how much is simply the result of Ben maturing and playing less recklessly.

Why do so many Steeler fans think of Arians as some sort of evil entity?Why is it so hard for them to simply admit that he's a good coach?

Or do they just miss him?

Agree to disagree I guess, I'll take this current offense over any shit sandwich he threw together in Pittsburgh.

I don't deny he did a good job after he left us though, but he underachieved for us.

Fair enough.

But no matter how wacky it got back then it was a fun five years to watch Steeler football (and the two trips to the SB didn't hurt either).

He's doing good now I admit, but he totally sucked it as the Steelers OC. With the talent he had, there's no way we should have consistently finished in the bottom half of the NFL for total offense.

And yet when Arians was here we were 55-25, had five-straight winning seasons, went to the playoffs 4 out of those 5 years, went to 2 SB's and won one of them.

Then, Arians moves on to Indy and goes 11-5 and went to the playoffs (and was voted Coach of the Year),Then goes to Arizona and went 10-6, 11-5 (and went to the playoffs) and now he's 10-2 and on his way to another post season run.

Yeah, Arians sure sucks alright.

Yeah how many times did his offense rank in the top 10? I had no idea the OC was 100% responsible for our win/loss record. I suppose having a perrenial #1 defense had nothing to do with those SB titles.

I don't care where his offense ranked - his offenses win and that's what matters more.

And as far as the Number One Defense is concerned (a statistical truth perhaps, but a debatable reality), that may certainly have helped but it can't explain the consistent success Arians continued to have after he left Pittsburgh.

You know it IS possible that the sometimes schizo offense we had back then had more to do with Ben than with Arians, especially since there has been no evidence of that under Arians with either Indy or with Arizona. I'll admit that our offense is more stable now, but I wonder how much of that is Haley and how much is simply the result of Ben maturing and playing less recklessly.

Why do so many Steeler fans think of Arians as some sort of evil entity?Why is it so hard for them to simply admit that he's a good coach?

Or do they just miss him?

So who gets the credit for Arizona's resurgent offense? Arians or their OC - Harold Goodwin?

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I didn't get to watch all of it tonight, but I will say having watched a bit of it. Bruce Arians is a hard guy to dislike. I know his offense stagnated while he was here but the guy is a genuine good human being, and I think he honestly found his niche as a Head Coach. It was interesting to kind of see more of the backstory behind his season with the Colts when he had to take over as the Interim Head Coach while Pagano was fighting off cancer. I respect Arians more now than I did before to be quite honest. I am glad that we decided to part ways with him, it was time, but I'm also glad that he's seemingly found his true calling as a head coach. What he did for the Colts was pretty phenomenal, and he's been doing pretty well down in Arizona.

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"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." - Jack Lambert

I didn't get to watch all of it tonight, but I will say having watched a bit of it. Bruce Arians is a hard guy to dislike. I know his offense stagnated while he was here but the guy is a genuine good human being, and I think he honestly found his niche as a Head Coach. It was interesting to kind of see more of the backstory behind his season with the Colts when he had to take over as the Interim Head Coach while Pagano was fighting off cancer. I respect Arians more now than I did before to be quite honest. I am glad that we decided to part ways with him, it was time, but I'm also glad that he's seemingly found his true calling as a head coach. What he did for the Colts was pretty phenomenal, and he's been doing pretty well down in Arizona.

I am not saying he is a bad person - I just think he aggresively cultivates the media, going back to when he sucked up to Ron Cook at the Post-Gazette - if Noll, Tomlin or Cowher did not get A Football Life and Arians did it is because those head coaches (or in Coach Noll's case his family) who won a Super Bowl would not cooperate with the NFL's propaganda arm (aka NFL Network) while BA (who has not won a playoff game as a head coach) does

I didn't get to watch all of it tonight, but I will say having watched a bit of it. Bruce Arians is a hard guy to dislike. I know his offense stagnated while he was here but the guy is a genuine good human being, and I think he honestly found his niche as a Head Coach. It was interesting to kind of see more of the backstory behind his season with the Colts when he had to take over as the Interim Head Coach while Pagano was fighting off cancer. I respect Arians more now than I did before to be quite honest. I am glad that we decided to part ways with him, it was time, but I'm also glad that he's seemingly found his true calling as a head coach. What he did for the Colts was pretty phenomenal, and he's been doing pretty well down in Arizona.

I am not saying he is a bad person - I just think he aggresively cultivates the media, going back to when he sucked up to Ron Cook at the Post-Gazette - if Noll, Tomlin or Cowher did not get A Football Life and Arians did it is because those head coaches (or in Coach Noll's case his family) who won a Super Bowl would not cooperate with the NFL's propaganda arm (aka NFL Network) while BA (who has not won a playoff game as a head coach) does

Oh well. The Steelers aren't so much about being in the spotlight anyways. I will say I think Arians being on A Football Life was entirely premature. Maybe later on in his career, but now is too early.

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"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." - Jack Lambert

I didn't get to watch all of it tonight, but I will say having watched a bit of it. Bruce Arians is a hard guy to dislike. I know his offense stagnated while he was here but the guy is a genuine good human being, and I think he honestly found his niche as a Head Coach. It was interesting to kind of see more of the backstory behind his season with the Colts when he had to take over as the Interim Head Coach while Pagano was fighting off cancer. I respect Arians more now than I did before to be quite honest. I am glad that we decided to part ways with him, it was time, but I'm also glad that he's seemingly found his true calling as a head coach. What he did for the Colts was pretty phenomenal, and he's been doing pretty well down in Arizona.

I am not saying he is a bad person - I just think he aggresively cultivates the media, going back to when he sucked up to Ron Cook at the Post-Gazette - if Noll, Tomlin or Cowher did not get A Football Life and Arians did it is because those head coaches (or in Coach Noll's case his family) who won a Super Bowl would not cooperate with the NFL's propaganda arm (aka NFL Network) while BA (who has not won a playoff game as a head coach) does

Yes but that's why the show is called "A Football Life" instead of "A Head Coach's Life".

The show deals with various people in the game of football and how their presence influenced the game or how the game influenced them.There are many people who have contributed to both football and the NFL who have not won championships or even playoff games.History and relevance isn't always about records and hardware.

Yes but that's why the show is called "A Football Life" instead of "A Head Coach's Life".

The show deals with various people in the game of football and how their presence influenced the game or how the game influenced them.There are many people who have contributed to both football and the NFL who have not won championships or even playoff games.History and relevance isn't always about records and hardware.

You are correct - it is not limited to head coaches - A Football Life is described as follows:

Showcasing the lives and careers of legendary players, coaches and executives, NFL Films examines the untold stories of the most influential NFL icons with unprecedented access. Each film tells the story of how their legacy is forever intertwined in the fabric of NFL history.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-life

I know you regard Bruce Arians as central to the success of the Steelers when he was the offensive coordinator, but do you regard him as "legendary" or among "the most influential NFL icons"?

Why not "Ken Whisenhunt - A Football Life"? He also was the offensive coordinator of a Steelers team that won a Super Bowl and was the only Cardinals head coach to get to a Super Bowl.

Yes but that's why the show is called "A Football Life" instead of "A Head Coach's Life".

The show deals with various people in the game of football and how their presence influenced the game or how the game influenced them.There are many people who have contributed to both football and the NFL who have not won championships or even playoff games.History and relevance isn't always about records and hardware.

You are correct - it is not limited to head coaches - A Football Life is described as follows:

Showcasing the lives and careers of legendary players, coaches and executives, NFL Films examines the untold stories of the most influential NFL icons with unprecedented access. Each film tells the story of how their legacy is forever intertwined in the fabric of NFL history.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-life

I know you regard Bruce Arians as central to the success of the Steelers when he was the offensive coordinator, but do you regard him as "legendary" or among "the most influential NFL icons"?

Why not "Ken Whisenhunt - A Football Life"? He also was the offensive coordinator of a Steelers team that won a Super Bowl and was the only Cardinals head coach to get to a Super Bowl.

And how do you know that a Football Life installment featuring Ken Whisenhunt isn't in the works?

As far as Arians goes, he's done nothing but win as both an OC and as a Head Coach. But more significantly, the list of players who consider him as a friend, a father-figure and mentor is quite long and goes all the way back to his beginnings as a QB coach and extends forward to this day. Whether or not that makes him "Iconic" is certainly debatable, but the positive impact he's had on the teams he's been with and the lives he's influenced is certainly such as to be "intertwined in the fabric of NFL history" and thus merit some recognition.