Some 16,000 officers will police London's streets in a bid to prevent a fourth night of rioting, with the Met Police drafting support from 30 forces. Businesses in some areas closed early in a bid to avoid the kind of violence that spread through London on Monday. David Cameron has recalled Parliament for Thursday in response to the "sickening scenes", which prompted unrest in other cities.

Tuesday evening brought disturbances in Greater Manchester and West Bromwich. West Midlands Police were dealing with sporadic disorder in Wolverhampton, while youths had smashed shop windows and set cars alight in nearby West Bromwich. Riot police were also surrounding Birmingham's Mailbox high-end shopping building.

Greater Manchester Police were involved in a stand-off with 70 to 80 young people in Salford, where a building was set alight, while a Miss Selfridge store was reportedly set on fire in Manchester city centre.

The Metropolitan force has released what it says will be the "first of many" CCTV images of rioting suspects, while 32 people have appeared in court charged with offences such as burglary and criminal damage during the previous riots. Among them were a graphic designer, college students, a youth worker, a university graduate and a man signed up to join the army. Some gave non-London addresses. Eighteen were remanded in custody.

So far 563 people have been arrested and 105 charged in connection with violence in the capital.

Some 111 police officers have suffered injuries including serous head and eye wounds, cuts and fractured bones after being attacked by rioters wielding bottles, planks, bricks and even driving cars at them. Five police dogs have also been hurt. However, the force has drafted in special constables and community support officers to ensure five times the usual number of officers for a Tuesday will be on duty. Similar staffing levels will be maintained over three days.

Meanwhile, Scotland Yard said a 26-year-old man found shot in a car in Croydon, amid rioting in the south London town, had died in hospital.

Most of the problems are caused by the government, but yea I kinda did read it...

I agree that a protest in this case was a good idea, but what the hell caused it to go this bad?

Now that is a problem with the UK. We don't seem to be able to have large peaceful protests without them turning to rioting and burning cars. The fucking Egyptian Revolution was more peaceful than anything we can do.

The details according to the BBC just now on TV are that yesterday the Police were trying to arrest a man in a taxi cab. 3 shots were fired, 2 of them killed Mark Duggan, who was a passenger in the cab, and a third bullet was found lodged in a Police Officer's badge so was presumably fired by someone else.

The BBC don't know whether Mark Duggan was the Police's intended target, whether he fired the third bullet, or who fired first. The Met appears to be refusing to say anything until they get forensics on the bullets and stuff, but I doubt they'll be allowed to withhold the details after tonight.

The details according to the BBC just now on TV are that yesterday the Police were trying to arrest a man in a taxi cab. 3 shots were fired, 2 of them killed Mark Duggan, who was a passenger in the cab, and a third bullet was found lodged in a Police Officer's badge so was presumably fired by someone else.

The BBC don't know whether Mark Duggan was the Police's intended target, whether he fired the third bullet, or who fired first. The Met appears to be refusing to say anything until they get forensics on the bullets and stuff.

I just wanna know, how the hell do you go from "THIS ISN'T RIGHT LAW ENFORCEMENT!" to "KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL THEM!!! *Blood foaming mouth*"

At any peaceful protest this size, there are always people who don't care about the cause, and just want to turn it into a riot. The British public and our police forces are shit at singling these people out and removing them. All too often the Met just kettles the whole protest, causing the entire crowd to turn on them and there you have a riot.

I don't know if there was kettling in this case but it definitely appears to have begun peacefully according to BBC, so straight away there should have been police there looking out for idiots

Another source on the original shooting. Not a particularily reputable paper so take it all with a grain of salt.

Interesting how the witness made out the guy was on the floor incapable of doing anything but also says 4 shots were fired. Later they say 2 shots were fired by the police so someone must have shot the other 2.

What are the police meant to do, run the fuck away and let him go? No, they're going to shoot the dumb fuck. If you are going to shoot when you are surrounded by armed police like that you are either dumb as fuck (plus high on adrenaline) or expecting to die.

Also, just wait for the IPCC report before rioting you fuckwits. As soon as a police fires a weapon in active duty the shit hits the fan for them - automatic suspension etc until a full enquiry is carried out.

People can be fucking idiots, anyone remember the people Egging Raoul Moat on and thinking he was some kind of hero for trying to murder people & police? And they even acted outraged when the police cornered him and he finally shot himself. Thankfully these people are a minority and the rest of the country is sane, but there's enough of them to have a small riot it seems.

Another source on the original shooting. Not a particularily reputable paper so take it all with a grain of salt.

Interesting how the witness made out the guy was on the floor incapable of doing anything but also says 4 shots were fired. Later they say 2 shots were fired by the police so someone must have shot the other 2.

What are the police meant to do, run the fuck away and let him go? No, they're going to shoot the dumb fuck. If you are going to shoot when you are surrounded by armed police like that you are either dumb as fuck (plus high on adrenaline) or expecting to die.

Also, just wait for the IPCC report before rioting you fuckwits. As soon as a police fires a weapon in active duty the shit hits the fan for them - automatic suspension etc until a full enquiry is carried out.

You're trying to reason with a bunch of chav's hell bent on causing violence.

1) Politicians publically vow to prevent further shootings by tightening gun law further.
2) This law is enforced in gun clubs/target ranges, where people are mostly law abiding.
3) Nothing is done about actual gun crime.

Destroying property is a nasty side-effect of riots. Riots are the part that works. Perhaps you remember the incident in this little country called Egypt? And Libya?

Riots did nothing in either of those countries, and they rarely do. In Egypt, rioting was largely in isolated pockets, and I remember us admiring the protesters in the I love baton thread who got into groups and handed rioters and looters over to the police.

In Libya, neither rioting nor peaceful protesting was enough, they had to arm themselves and fight the government.

Any regime that ignores a sizeable peaceful protest is going to ignore a riot too, and for a regime which cracks down on protesters, rioting is just going to help them justify it.

1) Politicians publically vow to prevent further shootings by tightening gun law further.
2) This law is enforced in gun clubs/target ranges, where people are mostly law abiding.
3) Nothing is done about actual gun crime.

I agree but Imagine what these riots would be like if guns where legal.