I'm not going to argue the other point because we're getting to the point where it's "It wasn't meant as offense vs I wasn't offended" and it's just going nowhere

My original point about Phage was more or less that R isn't always there. So you'll have to occasionally do everything with just Q. And in that situation, I felt that Phage was pretty solid, since it adds about 3 hits in a second with E and every hit having 25% chance to slow means that (1-(.75^3)) = 57% (0,578125) chance that the target gets slowed. But people are right when they refer to the Red buff, although I still think it's an exaggeration to assume that Red buff is always on you, I guess I'll just haver to learn to play around that.

Right, but with enough CDR (10% from Brutalizer, 20% from Blue) you should be getting to the point where you roaming to lanes is cutting out the CD of R, tied in with the fact that a Q + E + E combo should be chunking them for more than 50%+ of their health (with W procs as well) while the lane your ganking for follows with damage/cc. You'll still force flashes/pick up kills. I think Phage is way too expensive in its current form (1465g) for an item to use if you're ganking with ultimate down. Remember, if you're struggling to keep up with people, to AA + move, instead of just right clicking them. Get in the habit of pressing A and moving with them.
I will also note, that mid game, I am the carry. I take every blue buff I can. I warn my team ahead of time. However, I do often gank middle, so ours isn't put behind, and will try to leave a blue-stealing kill for my AP.

Ai, I stand corrected. And I should know, since I read all of them in English.

You said get in the habit of. Does that mean you actually recommend using A as a means to stick to your target? I felt I was giving control out of hand, since A doesn't plan moves, it just follows. And once more, I have no issues finishing targets after lvl 6, unless they're Yi or some other escape artist, but I often (used to) have Phage at lvl 3 or 4 and that's where I made a few kills thanks to it.

If you can, I've done this a couple times. Start red, take e first, then q when you level up. Let mid/bot push, and attempt to burn a flash or get an early kill, kill wraiths and golems (if you so please golems....) then come back and gank again, should be a kill unless the enemy jungler counter ganks you. Her damage output is strong, as others said, her AA range seems ridiculously low, but her damage is high. If she has her ult, its almost a guranteed kill.

If you can, I've done this a couple times. Start red, take e first, then q when you level up. Let mid/bot push, and attempt to burn a flash or get an early kill, kill wraiths and golems (if you so please golems....) then come back and gank again, should be a kill unless the enemy jungler counter ganks you. Her damage output is strong, as others said, her AA range seems ridiculously low, but her damage is high. If she has her ult, its almost a guranteed kill.

So anyways, I played two matches today, solo queue for a change (normally I play, unranked, with 2 friends) and the first match was a disaster, but the second match worked out awesomely well.

I started @ Red, lvl 3 after blue, ganked Garen top, or got an assist, can't remember. We had a good start, Katarina was still in the game until the 12th minute so we had some pressure on the leBlanc (who sucked) I started with Machete + 5, played a bit too long without upgrading, got 2xLong Sword and HP, being short on money for Brut (silly how I can never remember the prereqs for items). I upgraded to Brut as soon as I could after that. Boots followed.

I made a few mistakes, one of my deaths was from overextending beyond a tower, which was just silly. All in all, it was a good match, which we had to play as 4v5 from like..the 12th minute.

I haven't jungled as Vi yet (waiting a handful of levels before my account reaches lvl 20), but only laned. I'm usually building brutalizer, phage, black cleaver and bloodthirster and the optional defensive item(s). But what do you think using either Maw of Maltmortius, Blade of the ruined king, Wit's end or last whisper instead.
Please don't comment about my usage of phage. Because of how unorganized my team is at this level of play, I cannot always secure the red buff. I'm gonna try some alternatives to phage though reading this thread.

Originally Posted by Vespian

Unless it's been changed, the R can't be interrupted, but you can be knocked away by say, a Tristana while doing R. The damage and knockup will occur, but you will also be knocked away. It used to be this way and I do recall one of the developers to support this with the words that it was intended.

Unless it's been changed, the R can't be interrupted, but you can be knocked away by say, a Tristana while doing R. The damage and knockup will occur, but you will also be knocked away. It used to be this way and I do recall one of the developers to support this with the words that it was intended.

I haven't jungled as Vi yet (waiting a handful of levels before my account reaches lvl 20), but only laned. I'm usually building brutalizer, phage, black cleaver and bloodthirster and the optional defensive item(s). But what do you think using either Maw of Maltmortius, Blade of the ruined king, Wit's end or last whisper instead.
Please don't comment about my usage of phage. Because of how unorganized my team is at this level of play, I cannot always secure the red buff. I'm gonna try some alternatives to phage though reading this thread.

I've been stunned while R'ing through that Veigar aoe.

Phage isn't bad for Lane-Vi. Don't think I'd be in a hurry to get it (probably Belt -> Mallet rather than other way round), but it's a decent item for her. Thing we were commenting about is Jungle Vi, who -will- have Red buff unless she screwed up somewhere or started giving it to her ADC.