Diogenes:Hollie Maea: A friend of mine was making this argument with me yesterday on Facebook. His point was that gays can go to hell because they only constitute a few percent of the population, so fark them.

Spoken like someone who has always enjoyed the privileges of the majority without earning or deserving them.

Hey...he was born as a straight (maybe) white male American protestant. Doesn't get much more deserving than that!

illegal.tender:ikanreed: Do you think humanity will ever evolve past the point where people take the American Thinker seriously? Or are we going to forever be a species comprised of idiotic barbarians?

Ohhh definitely not forever. Pretty sure that over the long run that whole global warming thing is going to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Lochsteppe:illegal.tender: ikanreed: Do you think humanity will ever evolve past the point where people take the American Thinker seriously? Or are we going to forever be a species comprised of idiotic barbarians?

Ohhh definitely not forever. Pretty sure that over the long run that whole global warming thing is going to sort the wheat from the chaff.

America's federal government long ago shed the chains of the Constitution, and today, it possesses the power to dictate the amount of toilet water we can flush, what type of light bulb we use to light our homes, how we can use our land, and how much of our income we are permitted to keep. Moreover, our government has now cloaked itself with the power to decide whether we will be permitted to receive life-saving medical care. When will this tyrrany end? When the government forces one of us to wear seatbelts, are any of us truly free?

Rev. Skarekroe:Hollie Maea: A friend of mine was making this argument with me yesterday on Facebook. His point was that gays can go to hell because they only constitute a few percent of the population, so fark them.

Well, that's what Jesus would say.

And, sure enough, he claimed to be making his argument from a "biblical" perspective. There aren't enough faces to palm.

America's federal government long ago shed the chains of the Constitution, and today, it possesses the power to dictate the amount of toilet water we can flush, what type of light bulb we use to light our homes, how we can use our land, and how much of our income we are permitted to keep. Moreover, our government has now cloaked itself with the power to decide whether we will be permitted to receive life-saving medical care.

I remember "This American Life" did a show on the Red State/Blue State divide. One of the things they mentioned is that not only does each side disagree on the answers to problems, they can't even agree on what constitutes a problem in the first place. Whole scandals erupt on one side that the other is completely unaware of. Low flush toilets and energy efficient light bulbs are one of those things. They are things I don't even think about, but the Right is completely scandalized by.

Diogenes:Hollie Maea: A friend of mine was making this argument with me yesterday on Facebook. His point was that gays can go to hell because they only constitute a few percent of the population, so fark them.

Spoken like someone who has always enjoyed the privileges of the majority without earning or deserving them.

Of course they deserve them: they were born in America to good God-fearing Americans and have kept their nose clean living in suburbia. It's those people who grew up outside of the cultural norms who don't have the experience to know the status quo is what is best for this country.

Seriously though: it horrifies me how often people think they've come up with a "fair" idea of returning to real property ownership as either a requirement to vote or to be given a weight factor in voting. After all, the working poor who make up the majority of renters don't have skin in the game and could simply move away if their preferred political objectives damage the country, whereas the more wealth you have the more invested you are the more you have to lose if things go wrong. In other words, the justification of aristocracy.

Xythero:Low flush toilets and energy efficient light bulbs are one of those things.

But there's absolutely nothing in the law preventing any sufficiently bootstrappy individualist from making their own porcelain 50-gallon flush tank, or learning glassblowing and a few other skills to make their own light bulbs. I really don't understand what they are whining about.

So these jokers must have been mad as hell with all of the talk about "spreading democracy" and the "global democratic revolution" which prompted our invasion of Iraq. After all, "[The FOUNDERS] (pbut) knew that because democracy is simply mob rule, it offered no protection for liberty and was always doomed to destroy itself."

King George might have been able to declare Samuel Adams a traitor, but he could never have dreamed of being able to tell every subject of the crown how much money he could make or what kind of food would be served in schools.

Could someone point out to me where the President or anyone in the Federal Government has thepower to declare that someone is making too much money, and force them to get a pay cut, or is this douche just upset that you can be forced to pay taxes on your income?

Food in schools Where there public schools for everyone in 18th century England, and if the US Gorvernment is paying most of the bills shouldn't they get to chose, my roof my rules, and most importantly what the flying fark is he so concerned about someone deciding what food? He doesn't believe that there is science behind good nutrition?

Xythero:America's federal government long ago shed the chains of the Constitution, and today, it possesses the power to dictate the amount of toilet water we can flush, what type of light bulb we use to light our homes, how we can use our land, and how much of our income we are permitted to keep. Moreover, our government has now cloaked itself with the power to decide whether we will be permitted to receive life-saving medical care.

I remember "This American Life" did a show on the Red State/Blue State divide. One of the things they mentioned is that not only does each side disagree on the answers to problems, they can't even agree on what constitutes a problem in the first place. Whole scandals erupt on one side that the other is completely unaware of. Low flush toilets and energy efficient light bulbs are one of those things. They are things I don't even think about, but the Right is completely scandalized by.

Many "conservatives" hate conservation, and react against any legislation requiring them to stop wasting resources.

vernonFL:America's federal government long ago shed the chains of the Constitution, and today, it possesses the power to dictate the amount of toilet water we can flush, what type of light bulb we use to light our homes, how we can use our land, and how much of our income we are permitted to keep. Moreover, our government has now cloaked itself with the power to decide whether we will be permitted to receive life-saving medical care. When will this tyrrany end? When the government forces one of us to wear seatbelts, are any of us truly free?

For those that don't agree with the societal rules that supposedly apply to the patch of dirt you just happened to plop out on when you were born, there ARE alternatives:

- hop into a rowboat and go create Waterworld- make a rocket ship and go live on Mars

So it's not like there aren't viable alternatives. The Native Americans were too cowardly to do either of the above, so they got what they had coming to them.

Rootus:It started out halfway reasonable, but the 'logic' in that article was in freefall for the last couple paragraphs. Amazing. I almost, almost thought they were going to make a rational argument.

Wow. I thought liberals would eat this article up. it basically outlines why we have a do nothing congress. Our current system has develoved from a truely representative republic into a majority rules democracy.

Danger Mouse:Rootus: It started out halfway reasonable, but the 'logic' in that article was in freefall for the last couple paragraphs. Amazing. I almost, almost thought they were going to make a rational argument.

Wow. I thought liberals would eat this article up. it basically outlines why we have a do nothing congress. Our current system has develoved from a truely representative republic into a majority rules democracy.