What would people want to see if there was (in terms of story, cast, location for the adventure, etc?)

Jedi_Master_Guyute

01-16-2005, 04:56 PM

Tycho- if you browse the Hulk movie thread, you'll see that i was also a huge fan of the film, probably the biggest. :crazed: I'm also a Hulk fanatic (sporting a Hulk shirt right now) and belong to board which is just Hulk. The reports are that the Hulk sequel is currently in pre-production and working on a script. Avi Arad (Marvel CEO) said that the Hulk sequel is in the works as they're penning a script that is "more smash, less angst." It is unclear who is going to direct or who is going to be the new villian, but fans are hoping that Abomination and hopefully Leader make appearances. Eric Bana and Jennifer Conelley are both signed for a sequel (i don't know if Sam Elliot is, i think so), so more than likely they'll be back. The release date right now is aiming for 2007.

I'll drop you a PM if i hear of anything else. :D

edit: here is the blip from Avi from last week from SHH:

Bigger action, smaller Hulk in sequel says Avi Arad.

February's Total Film magazine features some new information from Marvel's Avi Arad. He confirms that Hulk 2 is in progress, and a few intruiging changes that will be made from the first film.

"In the next movie, Hulk 2, the Hulk will be smaller. If you make him 15-feet tall, there's no human connection there.....Right now we are still developing the sequel. I think the key thing is to come up with the right story."

The article also says we are promised, 'less angst and a lot more Hulk smashing,' and that Bruce Banner will become more comfortable with his big green side.

Tycho

01-16-2005, 05:07 PM

That's cool. And thanks for the info! I'm looking forward to it!

mericen

01-16-2005, 06:20 PM

I liked "The Hulk" movie also. It was better than either Daredevil or The X-men to me. I would definitely like to see The Abomination and maybe Doc Samson in the next movie. I doubt though that I will see it in the theaters. I do not see many movies in the theater anymore. Too busy.

Slicker

01-16-2005, 06:56 PM

I too liked The Hulk but my only gripe, which sounds like it'll be cleared up in the sequel, was that it wasn't until half way through movie that he "Hulked out". I watched it to see him in his CG form and I'm sure many went to see that and could've done without all of the backstory.

JEDIpartner

01-16-2005, 07:29 PM

They'll make a sequel to ANYTHING... won't they?!! :rolleyes:

Jayspawn

01-16-2005, 11:10 PM

They do dont they JEDIpartnr. I'm betting the sequel goes right to DVD. A Hulk sequel might poison Eric Bana's chance at playing 007.

Rocketboy

01-16-2005, 11:17 PM

I also loved Hulk. Very underrated, IMO.
Really looking forward to a sequel.

As for the long set up, it was kind of needed. Hulk seems a bit more complex as a character than say the X-men, where they just summed up what a mutant was in the first 30 seconds.
Also, look at The Punisher and Spider-man. It was like at least 45min to an hour before we saw either of them in the movies.

Tycho

01-17-2005, 12:29 AM

I agree. I like the long setup. It did make you care more about the characters.

SpiderMan was really done well.

Interestingly enough, SpiderMan2 was really cool because they did a lot of setup for Doctor Octopus. I think Spidey-3 will be faster paced, because the Hob-Goblin and Harry are ready-to-go.

JEDIpartner

01-17-2005, 08:11 AM

They do dont they JEDIpartnr. I'm betting the sequel goes right to DVD. A Hulk sequel might poison Eric Bana's chance at playing 007.

I thought the movie was poorly done and the CGI Hulk was completely ridiculous and unbelieveable... even IN a comicbook world. I have been a Hulk fan for decades and this was just a travesty. The merchandising even went over like a lead fart, so I really don't know what the point of it is. Eric Bana would be a smart man to get as far away from this project as soon as he can!

El Chuxter

01-17-2005, 12:01 PM

I disagree. This was one of the best comic book hero films yet, and I hope to see a sequel.

I know at one point Ang Lee said the sequel would feature Green Hulk, Mr Fixit (Grey Hulk), and possibly the Smart Hulk. Maybe as a result of the climax of the first film, more personalities come to the forefront? I hope so. :)

2-1B

01-18-2005, 04:41 AM

I think they should just skip the sequel and head right to the remake.

mabudonicus

01-22-2005, 07:11 AM

LOL Caesar, I was gonna agree with JP but I think you actually hit it even closer to the mark- the Hulk film should begin with the last scene from the first film and never look back- maybe it could even open with Bruce waking up after having a horrible nightmare where Kris Kristofferson was his dad and he yelled a lot... he could even say"Kristofferson?!?!?!" and then the real movie could begin...

(can ya tell I hated the "film"???? ;))

darthvyn

01-22-2005, 12:12 PM

actually it was nick nolte. if it were kristofferson, it would'a been a hundred times better movie!!! "ya gotta understand, the hulk's ever'where!"

i thought the flick was okay. i can't believe the claims that it was better than the x-men and others, though... here's the official list of marvel films from the past couple of years, in order of goodnessity... (not taking into account blade: trinity and elektra, as i haven't seen them yet...)

1.) spider-man, spider-man 2 (tied, because you can't outdo the first, but the second was only as good because it didn't need all the spidey setup...)
2.) x-men 2
3.) x-men
4.) blade
5.) blade 2
6.) daredevil
7.) punisher
8.) hulk

and that's official. sorry, no recounts. :D

Reefer Shark

01-22-2005, 02:37 PM

I actually really enjoyed the Hulk too, and always thought I was in the extreme minority on that (none of my freinds liked it at all).

Nice to see that some other people here liked it too. Can't wait for the sequel!

Rocketboy

01-22-2005, 02:59 PM

1.) spider-man, spider-man 2 (tied, because you can't outdo the first, but the second was only as good because it didn't need all the spidey setup...)With Spider-man 2 they did out do the first IMO. I can't even watch the first Spider-man anymore.
Booooooorrring.:zzz:

Beast

01-22-2005, 03:56 PM

I thought the Hulk movie was the worst mangling of a Marvel character in a movie ever. It wasn't as bad as DC's Catwoman, but only because it had some redeeming qualities. All the talking heads and endless and not to mention useless dialogue made this movie a real snore. The movie doesn't even really start, until about an hour in.

Sure all the psychological and experiment backstory was important, but a lot of it could have been trimmed out to cut the film down to a saner running time. The last half of the movie was really good, and the Hulk CGI was very sophisticated and realistic in my opinion. Of course the last act of the film is spoiled by the crappiest idea ever, 'Absorbing Dad'. Why did Ang Lee feel he needed to butcher a decent Hulk villian like this?

If you're going to include the Absorbing Man in a Hulk movie, don't make him the Hulk's dad. That was just a freakin' awful idea. That said, the news rumbling about the second movie gives me hope. Especially if we'll see a smaller hulk, like Grey Hulk or The Professor. And maybe some of the classic Hulk villians like Abomination, The Leader, hell even Maestro. Anything better than the crap that was Absorbing Dad. :p

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Mandalorian Candidat

01-22-2005, 04:11 PM

Eric Bana would be a smart man to get as far away from this project as soon as he can!

And go and do something else like Troy 2??? ;)

Hulk 2? Whatever. I thought the first movie was a waste of time, so I'm glad I didn't pay to see it. I guess there are worse movies to do sequels to like Another New York Minute or Gigli 2: Electric Boogaloo.

If you like the Hulk, see it. If you don't, then don't. Just like everything else in life.

Tycho

01-26-2007, 05:09 AM

So any updates on a Hulk sequel with Eric Bana, Jennifer Conelley, and Sam Elliot?

I really liked the first one and enjoy watching it every time I put it on.

I can see our forums group is very split here - you either love it or you hate it. And it looks like that decision goes about 50-50.

I'm in the love-it group. The Hulk is an awesome movie.

Rocketboy

01-26-2007, 09:20 PM

The only things I've heard recently were rumors of some guy from Prison Break could be cast as a new Bruce Banner, but a rumor is all it was.
It would be a BIG mistake to recast Bruce. Much like Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire, and Tom Jane, Bana was perfcetly cast, IMO.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

02-13-2007, 11:47 PM

Dunno if you guys know this but "The Incredible Hulk" is slated to open i believe June of 2008. The film is being directed by Louis Leterrier, who directed both TRANSPORTER flicks (3rd one almost done filming now, I think) and UNLEASHED. Main villians are set to be General Ross and Emil Blonsky, aka: ABOMINATION!!! As far as we know, none of the original cast has been signed to come back yet.

What else here: Script written by Zak Penn. I've read conflicting things about the plot and if its' supposed to be a reimagining of the first flick or sequel or what. I also read today that "supposedly" Adrien Brody has been cast in the film (according to AICN), but no word if it's Banner or Emil. Frankly, it'd hard for me to see him as Banner as i prefer to have Eric Bana back, plus, i'm not sure if Brody is Banner, he doesn't look the part. Maybe it's the nose? :p I'll post more news for those who care when it's announced. hehehe. :thumbsup:

Tycho

02-14-2007, 12:17 AM

I thought Adrian Brody was doing "Goats on a Boat?" (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33937&highlight=Goats+Boat)" :D

El Chuxter

02-14-2007, 12:20 AM

Adrian Brody is one of the few actors who could be signed to this and actually make me consider seeing this abomination. (No pun intended.) The first was great, and if they want a sequel, it should be Ang at the helm again.

Tycho

02-14-2007, 12:27 AM

I loved the way Ang Lee did The Hulk and would want Eric Bana back in the title role again.

If you were referring to a sequel to Snakes on a Plane, it's Keanu Reeves who is directing Goats on a Boat, with Piven and Brody as the leads.

bigbarada

02-19-2007, 01:03 AM

I liked The Hulk, it's one of my favorite comic book movies. The CG Hulk was extremely well done, but didn't mesh well with the backgrounds because of his overly-bright green skin. I kind of wished they had subdued the green a bit to make it more "natural."

I've seen more episodes of the Incredible Hulk TV show than I've read of Hulk comics, so I'm not incredibly attached to the Hulk's backstory. They can do what they please with the villians and secondary characters, as far as I'm concerned.

They spent all that money on the CG Hulk model and got his backstory out of the way, so why can't the sequel just be a two-hour smashfest? Why do they need to "reimagine" him?

Tycho

02-19-2007, 01:59 AM

I agree with BigBarada.

Cast Eric Bana and bring back Jennifer Conelley and Sam Elliot.

Maybe there will be a scenerio where Betty Ross needs Bruce's help, and either she or her father solicit it to cause him to return from Central or South America, all the while trying to control himself so he doesn't "Hulk Out." Of course he won't be successful in containing the beast within, else that would be no fun.

General Ross might set a trap for him, but I rather like the idea of Sam Elliot's character being sort of an anti-hero type, and not really an evil bad guy.

The real baddie could be a 1-dimensional villain for the Hulk to go "hammer-time on," (like Darth Maul was in TPM).

It would be hard to top Ang Lee's first film for a human story in it with plot substance, but Betty's search for a cure for Bruce might bring that sort of play into it.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-16-2007, 03:35 PM

Ed Norton has been confirmed as Dr. Banner in THE INCREDIBLE HULK.

"Two-time Academy Award® nominee Edward Norton has signed on to play Bruce Banner, who transforms into Marvel's renowned, larger-than-life Super Hero, The Hulk in Marvel Studios' action-packed, new big screen adaptation of The Incredible Hulk. The film, which is being directed by Louis Leterrier and distributed by Universal Pictures, is scheduled to smash into theaters on June 13, 2008.

"Edward Norton is a rare talent and one of the most versatile actors in the business. His ability to transform into a particular role makes him the ideal choice to take on the character of Bruce Banner/The Hulk. Edward is perfectly suited to bring one of the most popular and important Marvel icons to the big screen in a new and exciting way," said Kevin Feige, President of Production, Marvel Studios.

Under the visionary direction of Louis Leterrier (Transporter 2, Unleashed), The Incredible Hulk will return to the roots of the long-running comic series and television show.

The story unfolds when the pursuit for The Hulk - the world's most misunderstood, primal force of fury - heats up, finding Bruce Banner on the run attempting to cure his condition before his pursuers capture him.

Edward Norton is widely recognized as one of Hollywood's most multifaceted actors. Having appeared in more than 20 films to date, he has garnered numerous accolades, including two Academy Award nominations. He received a Best Actor nod for his portrayal of a former Neo-Nazi in American History X, as well as Supporting Actor recognition for his role opposite Richard Gere in Primal Fear. He will next been seen in Pride and Glory (co-starring Colin Farrell). Other film credits include: Fight Club, The Painted Veil, The Illusionist, The Score, 25th Hour, Frida, Death to Smoochy, and The People vs. Larry Flynt.

Filming is slated to begin in Toronto this summer.

The Incredible Hulk film is being produced by Avi Arad, Gale Anne Hurd and Kevin Feige and will be executive produced by Jim Van Wyck, David Maisel, Ari Arad and Stan Lee. Norton is represented by Brian Swardstrom of Endeavor.

Universal Pictures will distribute the film domestically and in various international territories."

Source:SHH!

I gotta say, this is GREAT in my opinion. I adored the HULK flick, but after watching it, a lot, I can see why it's not everybody's cup of tea. I know some fans are upset about the second flick having more action, but frankly, im' al for it. The info i've read on the film promises that it's going to have some drama, but also a healthy dose of action. As it should be! :thumbsup:

General_Grievous

04-16-2007, 03:43 PM

Might as well repost what I wrote in the "Marvelous Marvel Movies" thread...

I'm fine with Norton. He's a good actor. The new director, on the other hand...I'm not so sure, considering his past movies.

Unfortunately, I don't think Jennifer Connelly will be back. Maybe Betty won't even show up in the movie at all.

They might also have to touch up the Hulk's CGI to match Norton's features, so he'll probably look a bit different, too.

Rocketboy

04-16-2007, 03:44 PM

This is gonna suck more that Ghost Rider.
Damn shame, too. I liked Hulk.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-16-2007, 03:46 PM

Might as well repost what I wrote in the "Marvelous Marvel Movies" thread...

I'm fine with Norton. He's a good actor. The new director, on the other hand...I'm not so sure, considering his past movies.

Unfortunately, I don't think Jennifer Connelly will be back. Maybe Betty won't even show up in the movie at all.

They might also have to touch up the Hulk's CGI to match Norton's features, so he'll probably look a bit different, too.

I dunno. The "Transporter" movies succeed in what they are supposed to be: entertaining films. The script has been getting very good reviews and Marvel knows they need to change the persona of the Hulk to get him back on the graces of Average Joe Movie Goer. And c'mon, "Unleashed" is a GREAT flick.

I got faith in this flick. Now, i just want to know who is going to play Betty, Ross and Emil! :thumbsup:

General_Grievous

04-16-2007, 05:53 PM

Well, Sam Elliott may return as Ross. If the character of Ross is even included.

Tycho

04-17-2007, 02:13 AM

I really liked Eric Banna, but I dig Ed Norton, too. Norton's a great actor. I'm definitely not going to complain and I'm curiously anticipating finally getting to see this.

Rocketboy

04-21-2007, 09:00 AM

First it was Edward Norton. How a Grey Hulk (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/4152/tcid/1)?
This movie is sounding worse by the moment.

Hulk is GREEN!!!

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-21-2007, 10:07 AM

First it was Edward Norton. How a Grey Hulk (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/4152/tcid/1)?
This movie is sounding worse by the moment.

Hulk is GREEN!!!

Dude, calm down. He didn't say that the Hulk was going to be gray; read the article for petes sake. He said a "new color" so it's probably going to be a different shade of green or something. And since you might not know, the Hulk WAS gray in his very first issue (s), but soon changed to green. I don't think they'd change him to gray for the whole film as audiences are used to seeing him green. And I love how you're judging a fillm even though you haven't read the script, seen a preview, or given it a chance. Lighten up. :rolleyes:

El Chuxter

04-21-2007, 11:17 AM

If the grey Hulk is in this, they'd better work on getting him a CG suit. And contacting Vegas casinos to film there.

And they'd better get Dennis Leary to voice him (his voice being digitally made several octaves lower, of course).

General_Grievous

04-21-2007, 12:02 PM

Chux, you're thinking of Joe Fixit. I don't think he'll be in the movie.

I also don't think that the Hulk will be gray. Avi Arad has talked out of his @$$ a few times before. He recently said that Spider Man 4 would take place in Tokyo. :rolleyes:

Rocketboy

04-21-2007, 09:16 PM

Dude, calm down. He didn't say that the Hulk was going to be gray; read the article for petes sake. He said a "new color" so it's probably going to be a different shade of green or something. And since you might not know, the Hulk WAS gray in his very first issue (s), but soon changed to green. I don't think they'd change him to gray for the whole film as audiences are used to seeing him green. Yeah, I know Hulk was gray in his first issue. The printers were having trouble keeping the gray consistent, so Stan Lee (?) said change it to green.
And if they were only going to tweak the green to a different shade of gray I doubt it would be news at all.

And I love how you're judging a fillm even though you haven't read the script, seen a preview, or given it a chance. Lighten up. :rolleyes:Let's see here:
Drop the awesome Eric Bana for the craptastic Edward Norton + The director made the craptastic Transporter movies + Talk of changing the Hulk's color... = :rolleyes:

El Chuxter

04-22-2007, 11:35 AM

I also know they're apparently dropping the psychological aspect and artsy cinematography that made the first great.

If they drop the Elfman score, too, no way will I watch this turd till it comes to cable.

General_Grievous

04-22-2007, 03:03 PM

If they drop the Elfman score, too, no way will I watch this turd till it comes to cable.
While I'm a huge Elfman fan, I can't say I was a huge fan of his score for Hulk. If it gets dropped (which it probably will, unless he returns to score it), I can't really say I'd miss it. It wasn't his best work at all. It's actually pretty lame compared to his Spider-Man or Batman themes.

El Chuxter

04-22-2007, 03:29 PM

It was very different from Batman, Spider-Man, and Flash, I'll give you that. But I still really liked it. It's sort of unique among his scores: not big and action-packed, nor fun and creepy. Nor is it the weird synth stuff he briefly embraced about a decade ago.

And how can you not like the first commercial release by a then up-and-coming band called Velvet Revolver? :)

Rocketboy

04-22-2007, 05:42 PM

And how can you not like the first commercial release by a then up-and-coming band called Velvet Revolver? :)Before they even had a name for the band to boot!

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-23-2007, 03:26 PM

somehow, "I told you so" doesn't cover it.

"The Hulk Will Definitely be Green
Source: Advanced Dark April 23, 2007

Empire Online just confirmed what we were thinking, that the Hulk will just be a different shade of green and not a completely different color, such as gray. Producer Avi Arad cleared up his comments from Friday:

"It was a joke!" laughs Arad, in town to talk up Spider-Man 3, which opens on May 4. "Here's what it was. There were 30 people around a table, and they said 'is there going to be a grey Hulk?' And I was thinking about it and I said, 'who knows?' It was one of those moments. I had just got back from Japan and I was trying to talk about Spider-Man and this guy was pushing me on The Hulk so I thought I'll be coy. I don't know what colour it is, and all of a sudden it's headline news."

But Arad did mention a new colour – so will the eponymous star of Louis Letterier's movie, due out in 2008, still be green? Or orange? Or pink with yellow stripes?

"It's a different shade of green," confirms Arad. "But the colour is not like the old Hulk. And no, there's no grey Hulk."

Arad goes on to mention that we'll learn who is playing Betty in a matter of days."

source: SHH!

Huh. Imagine that. :)

Rocketboy

04-23-2007, 09:16 PM

Meh. Don't care. Edward Norton still sucks.

General_Grievous

05-04-2007, 02:50 AM

Just posted this in the Marvel movie thread, might as well post it here.

I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. I farted, and missed whatever it was you said.

Seriously, William Hurt was so mediocre in the outlandishly bad A History of Violence that I think the Razzies and the Oscars got their wires crossed. (Of course, they gave Diane Lane an Oscar a few years earlier for Unfaithful, and it was probably because she didn't laugh constantly during that ridiculous script. And because she had some nice scenes that had nothing at all to do with acting.)

mabudonicus

06-13-2007, 10:33 AM

Only thing I can say is that there's NO way it can suck as hard as the first POS "Hulk" movie, so nobody needs to get too worried- if you could choke that turd down and convince yourself you actually enjoyed it, you could pretty much excuse anything :D

:beard: Iso & Baws
That was no Incredible Hulk to be sure

El Chuxter

06-13-2007, 10:35 AM

Well, ducks my friend, we're going to have to disagree on that one. The first was a very intellectual movie, a lot like what the comic became in the 80s after facing cancellation a few too many times because Hulk just running around smashing stuff month after month got really old. Sort of like a two hour movie of Hulk smashing stuff would be.

And I forgot earlier that the Oscars lost all credibility when that half-wit douchebag Eminem won an Oscar. They actually sank below the Grammys on that faithful night.

General_Grievous

06-13-2007, 11:29 AM

Why in god's name would they replace Sam Elliott??

darthvyn

06-13-2007, 11:31 AM

Why in god's name would they replace Sam Elliott??

damn good question, my friend... he was perfect for that role, much like j.k. simmons as jonah in spider-man.

of course, maybe he saw some legs in his character in ghostrider. :rolleyes:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-20-2007, 10:28 PM

While I'm going to miss Elliot alot, Hurt is a pretty good choice. I enjoyed his work in "A History of Violence" along with "The Village" and "Syriana." I think maybe they just wanted a fresh cast and not have any connection to the Ang Lee flick; which I can see why on some levels, but I adored the first flick, so yeah......I think Hurt will do just great though.

also, wizard has a pic of a promo poster from the NY Licensing show. You can't see crap, but I'm digging it. :yes: :thumbsup:

Rocketboy

06-20-2007, 11:23 PM

You can't see crapThats because they're saving all the crap for the theaters.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-21-2007, 06:23 AM

Thats because they're saving all the crap for the theaters.

And rocketboy gives us his weekly intelligent, eloquent, biting, and insightful look into the film, "The Incredible Hulk." :rolleyes:

Beast

06-21-2007, 08:58 AM

Thats because they're saving all the crap for the theaters.
Sorry. They already released the crap. It was the first Hulk movie. ;)

Rocketboy

06-21-2007, 11:18 AM

And rocketboy gives us his weekly intelligent, eloquent, biting, and insightful look into the film, "The Incredible Hulk." :rolleyes:Glad to be of service.
I'll dump on this new one as much as others dump on the first one.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

07-26-2007, 09:36 AM

Tim Blake Nelson has joined the cast as Samuel Sterns.......ie- THE LEADER! I doubt he'll take his huge headed form in this one and they're just setting him up to be used down the road. From SHH!!

Tim Blake Nelson has joined the cast of Marvel Studios' The Incredible Hulk, says The Hollywood Reporter.

The movie, which Louis Leterrier is directing, sees Bruce Banner/Hulk on the run, trying to avoid capture long enough to cure the condition that turns him into a monster.

Nelson will play a scientist named Samuel Sterns. In Hulk lore, Sterns, aka "The Leader," is one of the Hulk's major antagonists, a menial worker in a chemical research plant who is bombarded with gamma radiation. He emerges from his accident not only green-skinned but also superintelligent, with an oversized brain.

It stinks that they are getting rid of Sam Elliot and Jennifer Connely; but if you're going to change the main character, then it's best to just change everyone across the board.

I'm suddenly excited about this movie, and I actually really liked the first one. Any hints on a release date?

RooJay

08-01-2007, 01:47 AM

I'm excited about this movie and I hated the first one!

Rocketboy

08-01-2007, 09:48 AM

Any hints on a release date?It needs another another 11 1/2 months to stew in the colon before it plops on June 13, 2008.

Tycho

08-02-2007, 02:58 AM

I'm excited about this movie and I LOVED the first one.

The Hulk looks great, too.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-22-2007, 10:06 PM

Looks like Doc Samson will be in the flick too!! He's being played by Ty Burrell, who is in the new series, "Back to You" but i'm sure most (at least I do) remember him as that great sarcastic a-hole from the remake of "Dawn of the Dead." Pic. (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/6297/Events/6297/ActorTyB_Leste_14561151_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Burrell,%20Ty)

I don't think it'll be a big role though, just as guess.

From SHH!!

In a Mail Tribune interview with "Back to You" star Ty Burrell it is revealed that the actor will play Doc Samson in The Incredible Hulk:

He managed to get time away from the show recently for shooting on Louis Leterrier's upcoming movie "The Incredible Hulk," with Edward Norton, Liv Tyler and Tim Roth. Burrell plays Doc Samson. The picture is due for release in June.

Doc Samson was a psychiatrist who exposed himself to siphoned radiation and at first, the length of his hair determined how much power he had. You can learn more about the character here.

I'm getting more and more excited about this flick and I can't wait to see a trailer...whenever that'll be. I did read though that the flick is currently in its last few weeks of filming. :thumbsup:

Tycho

10-22-2007, 10:27 PM

I did read though that the flick is currently in its last few weeks of filming. :thumbsup:

Darn it! There are all these good movies that Michael Bay could have been slated to direct.

But imagine if Bay had been in charge of The Incredible Hulk:

The Hulk would wear shorts with flames on the sides of them.
Bruce would find and confront Gumby - his long-lost brother.
Hulk wouldn't really be able to talk, but during one key action sequence he'd grunt out "Bring it!"

It would be 100 times cooler than Armageddon! I swear!

mabudonicus

10-23-2007, 09:05 AM

A few people I know are actually working on it. Haven't heard much besides something about a GIGANTIC bluescreen being built, basically the whole side of a factory, for some kind of scenes involving helicopters I do believe. I sincerely hope this one makes up for the first one
:beard: Iso & Baws

El Chuxter

10-23-2007, 09:31 AM

Maybe Ghost Rider will participate in the first Sucky Marvel Movie Crossover and help Hulk defeat the nefarious evil of The Helicopter.

Hulk = awesome movie

Incredible Hulk = not going to be good enough to insult the word "doon" by calling it that

:rolleyes:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-23-2007, 12:46 PM

Yeah, totally Chux, cos the Hulk fighting off some helicopters and the military just totally ruins the movie! Totally gonna be an insult to the word "doon." :rolleyes:

and I thought some of you folks might get a kick out of one of the top items on my christmas list: the Incredible Hulk complete comic collection! Clicky! (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Complete-Comic-Collection/dp/B000MVJZGM/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6/105-9493669-5750807?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1193160660&sr=8-6)

All issues on a DVD rom from May 1962 till December of 2006. AWESOME.:thumbsup:

RooJay

10-24-2007, 01:01 AM

Hulk = awesome movie

[spit-take] Huh, wha...WTF?! Surely you jest, sir.

El Chuxter

10-24-2007, 06:18 AM

Have you ever read any of my comments on Hulk?

In a nutshell, I think it's an awesome movie because it has a story and character development, rather than two hours of a big green guy walking around breaking stuff. That's fun for about five minutes. And that sounds like what Incredible Hulk will be. My hopes are nil for this movie, as not a single actor is returning, and the head of Marvel Productions had the unprofessional audacity to actually insult the ability of Ang Lee, one of the most respected directors in the industry, because it wasn't a lot of stupid action that got fanboys watching six or seven times. (If you don't like it, fine. But if you're the head of the production company that made it, don't insult the director. Especially when you think the twit who did Daredevil is an accomplished director.)

Given that this is the same production company that brought us X3, Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer, Elektra, Daredevil, and Punisher, I see no point in hoping for much. Marvel's triumphs in recent years have been spectacular (the Spider-Man series, the first two X-Men, and Hulk), but, sadly, they've produced more crap than they have successes. And with the cavalier attitude they've exhibited in tossing aside two acclaimed directors in favor of hacks, I don't have a hell of a lot of respect for them right now.

The script, if the rumors are true, also appears to be completely vapid and lacking in anything even resembling plot, story structure, or even simple logic. I hope it's false information, because it sounded like a second grader wrote it.

Don't mistake this for blind internet bashing of a movie simply because it's not what I think it should be. Marvel's track record is now working against them, something I'd have thought impossible after seeing Spider-Man or X-Men.

Replacing Bryan Singer with Brett Ratner worked wonders on the X-Men franchise.... :rolleyes: I'd love to be proven wrong, but so far Incredible Hulk looks like it's going to be going down the same road.

In a nutshell, I think it's an awesome movie because it has a story and character development, rather than two hours of a big green guy walking around breaking stuff. That's fun for about five minutes. And that sounds like what Incredible Hulk will be. My hopes are nil for this movie, as not a single actor is returning, and the head of Marvel Productions had the unprofessional audacity to actually insult the ability of Ang Lee, one of the most respected directors in the industry, because it wasn't a lot of stupid action that got fanboys watching six or seven times. (If you don't like it, fine. But if you're the head of the production company that made it, don't insult the director. Especially when you think the twit who did Daredevil is an accomplished director.)

Given that this is the same production company that brought us X3, Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer, Elektra, Daredevil, and Punisher, I see no point in hoping for much. Marvel's triumphs in recent years have been spectacular (the Spider-Man series, the first two X-Men, and Hulk), but, sadly, they've produced more crap than they have successes. And with the cavalier attitude they've exhibited in tossing aside two acclaimed directors in favor of hacks, I don't have a hell of a lot of respect for them right now.

The script, if the rumors are true, also appears to be completely vapid and lacking in anything even resembling plot, story structure, or even simple logic. I hope it's false information, because it sounded like a second grader wrote it.

Don't mistake this for blind internet bashing of a movie simply because it's not what I think it should be. Marvel's track record is now working against them, something I'd have thought impossible after seeing Spider-Man or X-Men.

Replacing Bryan Singer with Brett Ratner worked wonders on the X-Men franchise.... :rolleyes: I'd love to be proven wrong, but so far Incredible Hulk looks like it's going to be going down the same road.

I support your opinion in and of itself. It's just that I tend to completely disagree with it. In fact, the way I see it the first movie indeed had no more than five minutes of a big green guy walking around breaking stuff and that unfortunately was the only thing interesting about the entire affair. Not to mention all of the unnecessary changes to the more dramatic elements of the story: Banner being raised in foster care as Bruce Krensler?! What was wrong with him having been raised with his real parents, especially in light of the way Peter David handled the subject, which as far as I'm concerned was far more compelling than the way Lee handled Banner's backstory. Hulk dogs? Why ever should there have been a need to make anything other than the Hulk big, mean and green? Banner fighting his super-powered father? Why, especially as the whole affair amounted to nothing more than a de-internalizing of the conflict that was already such a major part of the character since the very start? Not to mention the fact that by-and-large audiences th world over seemed to have been bored to tears with the finished product.

It's certainly not that I mean any insult to Ang Lee's abilities as a director either - I happen to think he's generally pretty cool - I just happen to think that he not only exhibited a complete lack of knowledge of his subject matter, but it also seemed to me as though he felt the material was beneath him and seemed to have been attempting (unnecessarily) to raise the comic book medium to his perceived level. The Hulk already had all the qualities of great classic drama since the concept was created.

Neither do I want to see a movie with "a lot of stupid action" either. I honestly believe that the Hulk already has everything built into his storyline needed to naturally supply both intense action and high drama. The Hulk should be both. This is what the character is actually about anyway. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby did a good job when they thought the character up. Ang Lee never seemed to understand that, in my humble opinion.

As for the new movie - I have personally not read the script, but the cast alone has got me excited (nothing wrong with the cats of the first one - I'm a huge fan of Eric Bana, Sam Elliot, and especially Jennifer Connelly, but the new folks seem just as good. Edward Norton actually seems a much better fit; the guy should've actually got the part the first time out.)

A few the things I do agree with you about:

1 - The twit who did Daredevil is an far from an accomplished director.

I like the first Hulk movie. In fact, I've come to appreciate it more after seeing in on TV a couple of times.

Ang Lee obviously tried a more cerebral route, which I thought was fine. However, the movie was far from perfect:

1. the whole sequence with Hulk's father turning into a super-villian was unnecessary and the final battle was handled very poorly because there was no point of reference for the audience. It was just a bunch of abstract shapes and flashing lights. Very "artsy" but nothing entertaining about it at all. In fact, when I watch the movie now, I usually just stop it before this big final battle and start watching something else.

2. Eric Bana was a terrible choice for Banner, I felt that right from the beginning, but I learned to like the movie in spite of Bana, not because of him. He's a great a actor, but too much of a "leading man" type to fit Bruce Banner, who was supposed to be nothing more than a nerdy scientist. Edward Norton is a much, much better choice, IMO.

Overall, though, I do enjoy the movie a lot. I thought the origin story was fine. I was there through Peter David's "split-personality" storyline in the 80s and I felt that that origin had been done to death. I didn't see any need for the writers to try to retread it in the movie. So the revised origin was fine to me.

I thought the cinematography was absolutely incredible. It's what Spawn tried to do a decade ago, but didn't pull off nearly as well: capturing the look and feel of a comic page on screen. I wouldn't necessarily want it in every comic movie, but it worked here.

RooJay

10-25-2007, 01:04 AM

I suppose I should qualify my earlier statements - I actually was one of the few people who actually enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk. I just felt that it should have been so much better particularly because of Lee's involvement. That and the needless changes made to the original subject matter.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

11-16-2007, 02:22 PM

I suppose I should qualify my earlier statements - I actually was one of the few people who actually enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk. I just felt that it should have been so much better particularly because of Lee's involvement. That and the needless changes made to the original subject matter.

I really enjoyed the film a bit actually, but I won't dive into that right now. :thumbsup:

Here is another leaked pic of the Hulk. I REALLY like what i'm seeing here. :thumbsup: Picture thanks to SHH! :love:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

02-09-2008, 08:41 AM

Pics of the toys were released and we can see an early idea of what Abomination looks like!!

I knew they were dropping the reptilian look, so that's not a problem. I don't think audiences would like another green creature anyway. From the toy we can see that he looks like a warped, kinda scary version of a gamma experiment gone wrong. I dig the look. LL said he was keeping the ears, so maybe we just can't see them here or maybe it's an early design or an early version of abomination? We'll find out though. I likey though, very much. can't wait to see him fighting the Hulk on screen. :thumbsup:

Beast

02-09-2008, 11:33 AM

Very cool. I like the design. Certainly better than Absorbing Dad. :p

General_Grievous

02-09-2008, 12:28 PM

Looks like a worthy adversary for the jolly green giant.

2-1B

02-09-2008, 01:08 PM

that design is an abomination.

El Chuxter

02-10-2008, 11:20 PM

That looks like something I flushed down the toilet about an hour ago, after eating a carpload of Vietnamese food for Tet.

No, I'm not a hater. But everything about this film makes Indy IV look like a surefire classic.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

02-11-2008, 10:57 AM

That looks like something I flushed down the toilet about an hour ago, after eating a carpload of Vietnamese food for Tet.

No, I'm not a hater. But everything about this film makes Indy IV look like a surefire classic.

Ya know Chux, most of the posts I read of yours are always negative and complaining about something. I think you should change your SSG name to something more familar, a name that we associate with never being happy and constant complaining.......... :p

anyway, "supposedly" there was some footage shown from the film festival in Germany; shown were clips from both "Iron Man" and "the Incredible Hulk." here is the blurb:

It was great to see the first footage of THE INCREDIBLE HULK. I think what we saw looked like the first official trailer. The scene opens with Edward Norton meditating. We see images of a lab, experiments, Banner escaping from
the (Russian?) military (led by William Hurt and Tim Roth), running in the
streets, kissing Liv Tyler, guns, shooting, more running… The ‘trailer’ ends
with Abomination walking towards Hulk. Remember the end of Rocky III? Apollo
Creed wants to hit Rocky in their friendly duel? That’s exactly the way the
trailer ends. Abomination wants to hit Hulk. Hulk wants to hit Abomination,
but before it actually happens the trailer is over. Abomination looks like a
Hulk with the Voldemort face from the first Harry Potter movie. A really
mean motha. He sure is a great opponent.
I thought the shown footage was awesome. It promises much more action than
the Ang Lee movie, a great love story and an even greater fight. Edward
Norton makes a great Bruce Banner. He isn’t that muscular which makes his
transformation into Hulk much more interesting and exciting.

Take it as you will. I'm really hoping for a trailer here soon! :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

02-19-2008, 06:18 PM

Trailer is set to premiere on March 7th with "10,000 BC" and then later with "Doomsday." It'll be online around this time too. And according to people who saw footage/figures, etc. the figure of Abomy is actually a bit different than what we see on screen. We'll have to wait and see. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

02-27-2008, 09:35 AM

A few new pics posted from Empire magazine. Norton about to Hulk about and Hurt looks fantastic as Ross. Like Seriously fantastic. :thumbsup:

The first teaser trailer for hotly anticipated summer superhero epic "The Incredible Hulk" will have its exclusive broadcast debut in a simultaneous "roadblock" on seven networks on Wednesday, March 12. This first opportunity to see material from the motion picture will be aired at approximately 9:56 p.m. EDT/6:56 p.m. PDT on MTV, MTVU, MTV2, VH1, Spike TV, Nick at Nite and CMT.

Following the on-air premiere, the trailer will be immediately posted on MTV.com for an exclusive period. The trailer will begin showing in theaters across the country on Friday, March 14, with prints of Rogue Pictures' "Doomsday."

so uber excited! :thumbsup:

General_Grievous

03-07-2008, 10:39 PM

Why in the bombastic hell would they decide to show the trailer in front of such an under-the-radar movie like "Doomsday" (which nobody will probably see anyway)? Between that and not showing a trailer until three months before it's out, it's like they don't want people to know that there's a Hulk movie coming out this year.

jjreason

03-08-2008, 06:56 AM

The secretiveness around this movie can't bode well. I'm hopeful the trailer raises my spirits about this one.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

03-08-2008, 12:50 PM

I agree that the marketing for the film has been horrific, but I don't think it should signal worry about the film, at least not yet. Let's not forget that TPM trailer was shown before "Wing Commander" if memory serves. I still have a huge amount of faith in the film and if that old trailer description is accurate, i'm pretty pumped to see the trailer itself!:thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

03-10-2008, 06:52 PM

A preview of the trailer from MTV (I think).

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6906

very very excited! :thumbsup:

Rocketboy

03-10-2008, 09:31 PM

That looks like straight to DVD quality.

El Chuxter

03-10-2008, 09:36 PM

That might be too much credit, RB. :thumbsup:

Rocketboy

03-10-2008, 09:39 PM

I was trying to be polite.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

03-12-2008, 12:20 PM

IGN UK got a sneek peak at the trailer and they really loved it. Here is the synopsis of what we'll be seeing tonight.

"The trailer opens with a zoom in on an arts and crafts-style home. Inside, Banner (played by Norton) is engaged in a deep conversation with a friend/colleague. We’re theorizing that this person is Hulk supporting character Doc Samson, but we have no confirmation on this. Banner is trying to tell his friend without actually "telling him"about his monstrous affliction, to which his comrade responds, "See a shrink." Ah, if it were only that easy…

Cut to a different setting and a close-up of Banner’s eyes opening wide just as they turn bright green — clearly the beginning stages of a "Hulk out." Military commandos are hunting The Hulk and one unlucky soldier is hurled by an unseen assailant out of the frame. Tim Roth, who plays Emil Blonksy (a.k.a. The Abomination), sees the creature (although audiences don’t) and is overcome with fear.

Cut to Banner, back in his home, talking to Betty Ross (played by Liv Tyler) and another scientist. This snippet serves as a quick recap of the accident that actually created The Hulk. Cut to a scene of Banner meditating, clearly trying anything he can to subdue the beast within. He’s heard talking over this image to Betty saying he doesn’t want to learn to control it — cut to Banner and Betty sitting in a car together — he wants to get rid of it. What this portion of the trailer sets up is the idea that, like in the comics, Betty is "standing by her man" and helping him work toward a cure — a serious departure from the end of the first film, which had the two separated and living completely different lives.

This is where fans of the 1977 TV show will get excited. General Thunderbolt Ross’ (played by William Hurt) voice can be heard talking over a number of snippets of Banner on the run. Commandos are making their way up a flight of stairs — Banner bolts out of bed, aware of their presence. A shot of Banner on the street shows him lifting the hood from a sweatshirt up over his head and slinking away. Ross’ voiceover says, "As far as I’m concerned, he’s government property." Clearly, the military is still hoping to capture The Hulk.

In fact, it’s our theory that they want to use The Hulk as a weapon. The reason being, the very next shot shows Blonsky being injected with two serums — clearly, he’s the volunteer for some kind of experiment. The procedure goes horrible awry, however, as the next shot is that of The Abomination tearing down a city street, knocking cars over and carelessly putting people in harm’s way. Who can stop this creature from destroying the city and killing thousands of innocent people?

Cut to the inside of a military helicopter. Banner is saying goodbye to Betty, noting that perhaps he’s the only person capable of stopping The Abomination (although, he doesn’t actually call him that). The two kiss passionately, after which Banner jumps out of the chopper. Betty is crying and desperately reaching for him, but a group of soldiers are restraining her. Banner seemingly plunges to his death, crashing into the city street below making a huge crater in the process.

Cut to a familiar green fist bursting out of a pile of rubble. A police officer and nearby woman look on in awe. The money shot — The Incredible Hulk in all his glory roaring loudly and flexing viciously toward The Abomination. The two run toward each other, cars and people flying out of their way. Title cards cut in and out as the creatures near each other — the message reads: "This summer our only hope is something incredible." Cut back to the two behemoths as they leap toward each other. Cut to black. The Incredible Hulk. June 13, 2008. End on a quick close-up of the Hulk’s face.

So now the moment everyone’s been waiting for: What do The Hulk and The Abomination actually look like? I can tell you that Blonky’s villainous alter ego is a good adaptation of the character. Gone are the scales and silly fin ears that made the comic book version look like some sort of aquatic creature. Instead, the monster looks more like a horribly mutated man — about 10 feet tall, incredibly muscular, tan colored (instead of the comic book dark green) and covered in some sort of exoskeleton (most likely a nod to the aforementioned scales). In fact, running down his spine are bony spikes.

Hulk, on the other hand, looks as if he were ripped right from the pages of the comic. He clocks in at about nine feet tall, is slender (when compared to Ang Lee’s downright chubby version), and has a much better defined musculature than his big screen predecessor. Even the manner in which he roars (body squatting, arms outspread, head craning forward) is reminiscent of his four color ancestor. And while we’re not sure as to whether the pants he was wearing were purple or just dark colored, this particular homage is at play in the film as well."

Sounds pretty great! :thumbsup:

UKWildcat

03-12-2008, 01:24 PM

I really have no desire to watch this new Hulk movie, after my one and only viewing of the first one. Granted, I didn't completely hate the first one, but I didn't like it either. So I'll likely rent this one on DVD whenever it is released, having all expectations in check. I do think, however, think that the second one will in fact be better than the first, which should be an easy accomplishment. We shall see.

Qui-Long Gone

03-12-2008, 01:29 PM

I may pass this one too....I have to say after X3, Spiderman 3, Superman Returns, and the Fantastic 4 stinkers I haven't been a big fan of the comic book film genre.

Granted: Batman Begins stands on it's own, but only because the film was about Bruce Wayne not Batman.....think about it.....

2-1B

03-12-2008, 05:58 PM

I will see it because I really love Lou Ferrigno ! :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

03-12-2008, 06:54 PM

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1583143&vid=215625

Trailer is up and looks pretty bad---. I recommend watching it in HD as that small screen doesn't do it justice! :thumbsup:

Excellent HD screenshots of Hulk and Abomy from AICN. I really like seeing Doc Samson and the early versions of the Leader in there. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

General_Grievous

03-12-2008, 08:42 PM

It's worth a watch, I will say that. However, I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking. Tim Roth looks to be a worthy villain, but I know I'm not speaking only for myself when I say that I'll miss Eric Bana, Jennifer Connelly, and Sam Elliott. I also think that the Hulk looked better in the 2003 film (is ILM even working on this?), but at least he'll actually fight something that's a match for him in this one.

Rocketboy

03-12-2008, 10:52 PM

:D Did the Sci-fi Channel produce that?

On a more serious note: Don't you just hate that fact that you can't "unwatch" something?

2-1B

03-12-2008, 11:12 PM

That looked foolish...but I didn't know they were making a sequel to Lost Boys starring Corey Feldman ? ? ?

Qui-Long Gone

03-19-2008, 08:43 AM

Is it just me or have sound designers become useless? How did the Hulk's scream turn into a T Rex? Seriously, these guys (and girls) used to be the magicians of film (with a little help from the editor)....now? Dinosaur screams for all things large in film? SOB. Will someone please give a sh@@ about film and give us something new? :tired:

When the Hulk came up out of the pavement I was waiting for a quick shot of a cup of water being rippled by his approach or a shot of someone looking out of his car review mirror watching Hulk run at Abomination....."Objects in Mirror are Closer than they Appear."

:tired:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

03-19-2008, 11:38 AM

Hey 1993 called, they want your Jurassic Park joke back.

tell me, how is an 8-9'' tall rage infested gamma monster supposed to sound when he gets angry and roars? I'm curious.

and there is a much better version of the trailer here: http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/12/must-watch-finally-the-incredible-hulk-trailer as the MTV ones weren't the best quality. You can really see the detail and definition in the CGI in this one. Looks pretty fantastic. :thumbsup:

There is also an extended trailer in theaters that shows a bit more of the creature and even has a clip of him saying, "Betty" I believe.

Also, Louis Leterrier spoke with Empire and went scene by scene with them. http://www.empireonline.com/features/hulk/ A few highlights

- We see the Hulk within the first few minutes
- The CGI is not done yet
- The climax of the film with be 26 minutes! He says, "But our final scene, our final battle – unlike a normal movie where the final fight scene is six minutes long, ours is 26 minutes long! So you get 26 minutes of two monsters pummelling each other through New York City, jumping up and down, ripping helicopters from the sky and stuff."

That sounds awesome! :thumbsup:

Qui-Long Gone

03-19-2008, 02:37 PM

tell me, how is an 8-9'' tall rage infested gamma monster supposed to sound when he gets angry and roars? I'm curious.

That looked foolish...but I didn't know they were making a sequel to Lost Boys starring Corey Feldman ? ? ?

I thought someone put a stake in his heart long ago. :o

Qui-Long Gone

03-20-2008, 08:13 AM

What's a T. Rex sound like? I've never heard a real one.:whip:

You didn't see Jurassic Park? They cloned dinosaur DNA from mosquitoes with frog DNA and made dinosaurs on an island in the Pacific ocean....Spielberg made a documentary about it in the 1990s and cast well known dino expert Dr. Sam Neill and famous chaos theorist turned actor Dr. Jeff Goldblum (this is the same guy who did experiments with flies in the 1980s).

For obvious reasons they had to shoot T Rex scenes with a stunt double dinosaur (I think the same species as Dino from the Flintstones) because it kept trying to eat the cast and crew. They recorded it's roar for editing and now we know what a T Rex sounds like. Sadly the T Rex, known as Bruce the shark, died in a Mexican zoo in 2000 from a discease comonly fatal to frogs ironically.

Incidentally a book based on the movie was written by the same guy who wrote the original Beowulf story, later turned into a cartoon by the same guy who made a film about Santa Claus' train, aka the Polar Express. Both true stories.

Geezzeee don't you people get out much?:whip:

2-1B

03-20-2008, 10:07 PM

I thought someone put a stake in his heart long ago. :o

No, you're thinking of Corey Haim. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-05-2008, 11:39 AM

Here is a link of the Regal Cinema feature that's playing in theaters now about the film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3VRf36_EsI

Pretty good stuff and the last close up clip of the Hulk is pretty awesome. :thumbsup:

2-1B

04-07-2008, 12:36 PM

It got yanked by Universal. :cry:

But thanks anyway, JMG. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-08-2008, 08:33 AM

It got yanked by Universal. :cry:

But thanks anyway, JMG. :thumbsup:

Marvel uploaded it themselves! Here is a link to a high res QT viewing! http://incrediblehulk.marvel.com/media/hulk%20ncmdnx640_2000k_.mov

Enjoy! :thumbsup:

2-1B

04-09-2008, 06:39 PM

I'm warming up to this flick...could be entertaining. I will give it a try in June.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-14-2008, 10:42 PM

New poster!! Looks very nifty and i like the obvious nods to the TV series. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

04-30-2008, 02:34 PM

Theatrical trailer!!!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/theincrediblehulk/large.html

MUCH better trailer. Looks very awesome!!!! :thumbsup:

General_Grievous

05-03-2008, 11:54 AM

Did anyone notice the "Lonely Man" theme at the end of the new trailer? I recognized it immediately not from the 70s TV show, but from that one episode of "Family Guy". :p

2-1B

05-03-2008, 03:54 PM

I liked the new trailer before Iron Man and yes I caught the theme at the end...but between the 2 different trailers I've seen, I feel like I've seen the whole movie already.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

05-17-2008, 11:47 AM

Three new TV spots up with MUCH improved CGI!!! I suggest downloading and watching the HD versions! http://media.movies.ign.com/media/569/569136/vids_1.html

Some caps. The shot of him roaring looks FAR superior to the first version we saw.

A few more weeks!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

05-23-2008, 11:47 PM

I have three great clips for you folks. For ALL of them, I HIGHLY encourage watching them with the HD links as you can really see the CGI and how awesome it looks. The regular WMP style players don't do it justice.

Protecting Betty: http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1588023&vid=235404

Blonsky battles Hulk: http://media.movies.ign.com/media/569/569136/vids_1.html - as to why Blonsky is able to do flips and whatnot in this scene, supposedly he's already using the serum that will change him into the abomination.

NYC fight:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808495230/video/7950136

This clip literally made my jaw hit the ground. Seriously. Abomination talking and taunting the Hulk while the Green Goliath uses a NYC Police car for boxing gloves. Seriously, this is the Hulk fanboys like myself have been yearning for.

:thumbsup:

Tycho

05-25-2008, 10:39 PM

I saw the trailer today during Iron Man.

It looks good. I wished the CGI Hulk was now modeled to more closely resemble Ed Norton, but it still looks like Eric Bana.

Someone told me they completely redesigned him. Well they went 360 degrees with that.

But I'm looking forward to this anyway.

OC47150

05-26-2008, 05:25 PM

My buddies and I have talked about the Hulk at length. Is a re-launch necessary? the first one had its faults (too celebral of a movie) but starting over again?

I'm not an Ed Norton fan, so I can wait to see this movie. Should've went with Eric Bana. He's a more believable Banner.

General_Grievous

05-26-2008, 09:05 PM

I'm actually looking forward to the video game of the movie more than the movie itself, because from the sounds of it, it's supposed to be in the same vein as "Hulk: Ultimate Destruction", which was one of the greatest superhero games out there.

El Chuxter

06-03-2008, 01:31 PM

Okay, guys, I'm not stepping in to argue, but I saw a new commercial last night that features Abomination talking.

Do those of you who want to see this honestly think the animation looks good, or are you wanting to see it in spite of the animation? Because it really looks bad to me. Throwing everything else about this movie out the window, there's no way in hell I'd pay to watch a movie that looks like that.

Marvel really should be relying on word-of-mouth and name recognition to carry this movie, because I can guarantee you there are a lot of people who would see this who are going to pass because the animation in the trailers and TV spots is so incredibly bad.

If you want to see it, great; I hope you like it. For me, the lousy CG work this close to release date is the final clincher--I may not even watch this on HBO unless people rave about it.

2-1B

06-03-2008, 05:20 PM

I'll be raving about it just to dupe Chux into watching it.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-03-2008, 06:38 PM

I read that the film has a running time of about 1 hour, 55 minutes or so. And that the origins of Banner and his gamma experiments are told in the opening scene/intro/credits via flashbacks and whatnot, kinda like BATMAN BEGINS, but at once, which is fine for me.

My buddies and I have talked about the Hulk at length. Is a re-launch necessary? the first one had its faults (too celebral of a movie) but starting over again?

I'm not an Ed Norton fan, so I can wait to see this movie. Should've went with Eric Bana. He's a more believable Banner.

Well, Universal and Marvel wanted to start off with a new cast and whatnot as the first one got mixed reviews from the critics as well as fans.

Okay, guys, I'm not stepping in to argue, but I saw a new commercial last night that features Abomination talking.

Do those of you who want to see this honestly think the animation looks good, or are you wanting to see it in spite of the animation? Because it really looks bad to me. Throwing everything else about this movie out the window, there's no way in hell I'd pay to watch a movie that looks like that.

Marvel really should be relying on word-of-mouth and name recognition to carry this movie, because I can guarantee you there are a lot of people who would see this who are going to pass because the animation in the trailers and TV spots is so incredibly bad.

If you want to see it, great; I hope you like it. For me, the lousy CG work this close to release date is the final clincher--I may not even watch this on HBO unless people rave about it.

As there are a lot of people who are pretty stoked about this movie, Chux. Check out the HD clip of the NYC fight on Yahoo and you can see how great the CGI looks. Is it perfect? Eh, almost, but no movie has perfect CGI. Hell, all 3 spider-man movies had parts where the CGI was crappy and yet, audiences ate it up (well, not so much with 3, but I digress) because they enjoyed the films and the characters. From what i've read on some movie sites and messageboards, fans are pretty stoked about this flick. Frankly, I don't know how you can look at the new pic of the Hulk in the ripped shirt and find so many gripes about it. One early review said the CGI is pretty.....INCREDIBLE. hiyo!! :crazed:

I'll be raving about it just to dupe Chux into watching it.

lol Nah, Chux will be too busy watching his 8th viewing of the horribly bad SPEED RACER to worry about the Green Goliath. Somebody's gotta help pay the costs for that snoozefest. heheeheh just messin' Chux...kinda. :crazed:

also, my local WM has seasons 1-2 of the show for 19.99 each. So tempting!! :thumbsup:

El Chuxter

06-03-2008, 07:08 PM

I actually watched the Yahoo! clip before posting earlier, and stand by what I said. Sure, it's my opinion, but a lot of folks I know (who aren't nerds like us posting on toy and movie sites) think it looks really bad. Given that a lot of people hated the first (not saying they're right, but they did), if this is going to be an action-fest starring a CG character, there shouldn't be any flaws with the CG. If you didn't like the first movie in a series, and the second doesn't look top-notch, it's not going to bring in the numbers they want it to.

I'm not passing judgment here. I don't think that, with as many big movies are coming out in a short period, a lot of people who didn't like the first and aren't comic book geeks aren't going to be willing to watch this one.

It'll still do well, but I doubt it'll bring in the numbers Marvel wants it to.

2-1B

06-03-2008, 08:19 PM

Whoa, ease up on that Chux:

The Incredible Hulk is in the same series as The Hulk about as much as Batman Begins is in the same series as Batman & Robin.

Very different animals. Ang Lee is to Joel Schumacher as Guy Who Directed The Transporter is to Christopher Nolan.

mabudonicus

06-04-2008, 08:10 AM

Nah, Chux will be too busy watching his 8th viewing of the horribly bad SPEED RACER

For a guy who is always the first to smart off at folks about judging films they ain't seen yet, you sure do seem to have no problems doing so yourself- or DID you see "that horribly bad" film and just not say anything about it??

Just sayin. Speed Racer was an awesome movie, it just didn't happen to have any phoney "weight" added to it. I have a funy hunch that pretty much no-one who gave Speed a bad review actually saw the film. For your sake, JMG, I hope this movie gets panned so YOU can be upset the same way a few of us were about the debacle that was the "kill speed" campaign- the only truly bad part of the film was the stupid reviews

That being said, this hulk film looks pretty meh so far- there is literally no way it could be half as much fun as Speed simply due to the subject matter and the presence of cartoony "evil forces". The Abmomination kinda really sucks- to me it seems like they've tried to make him much more "dark and evil" than he's supposed to be, and the design of the thing is just plain crappy- just like Iron Man they decided that a slightly different coloured version of the hero would do as the villain. Wasn't MUCH of a problem in Iron Man but here it is wrong- IF the bad guy was gonna be another big green dude, the least they could have done was make the differences a bit more pronounced so you could tell them apart from 100 paces. Abomination should be a LOT taller and skinnier and scalier, as it is on my PC I can't hardly tell them apart in the action scenes, especially with all that darkness.
Even still I imagine it could be worth seeing once it comes to video

:beard: Iso&Baws

I've probably read more Hulk books than most folks here, not that it counts for much

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-04-2008, 03:43 PM

Whoa, ease up on that Chux:

The Incredible Hulk is in the same series as The Hulk about as much as Batman Begins is in the same series as Batman & Robin.

Very different animals. Ang Lee is to Joel Schumacher as Guy Who Directed The Transporter is to Christopher Nolan.

I agree here. While I really enjoyed the Ang Lee version, I'm looking forward to this version that should some have solid moments between the characters and a huge amount of action.

I stilll disagree with you about the CGI though Chux. Watching it in HD on my PC it looks fantastic, in my opinion.

For a guy who is always the first to smart off at folks about judging films they ain't seen yet, you sure do seem to have no problems doing so yourself- or DID you see "that horribly bad" film and just not say anything about it??

Just sayin. Speed Racer was an awesome movie, it just didn't happen to have any phoney "weight" added to it. I have a funy hunch that pretty much no-one who gave Speed a bad review actually saw the film. For your sake, JMG, I hope this movie gets panned so YOU can be upset the same way a few of us were about the debacle that was the "kill speed" campaign- the only truly bad part of the film was the stupid reviews

That being said, this hulk film looks pretty meh so far- there is literally no way it could be half as much fun as Speed simply due to the subject matter and the presence of cartoony "evil forces". The Abmomination kinda really sucks- to me it seems like they've tried to make him much more "dark and evil" than he's supposed to be, and the design of the thing is just plain crappy- just like Iron Man they decided that a slightly different coloured version of the hero would do as the villain. Wasn't MUCH of a problem in Iron Man but here it is wrong- IF the bad guy was gonna be another big green dude, the least they could have done was make the differences a bit more pronounced so you could tell them apart from 100 paces. Abomination should be a LOT taller and skinnier and scalier, as it is on my PC I can't hardly tell them apart in the action scenes, especially with all that darkness.
Even still I imagine it could be worth seeing once it comes to video

:beard: Iso&Baws

I've probably read more Hulk books than most folks here, not that it counts for much

If you would have browsed the SR thread a bit more closely, you would notice that I DID see SPEED RACER on the first day it was out. I found it to be a pretty poor film on several levels. I still don't get how anybody can get Abomination and Hulk mixed up; sure, they've both large creatures, but they look really different in their design and not to mention that Abomination has the whole bony things going on too. I can honestly say that while watching it on my PC in HD, I can easily tell the two apart.

Regarding Abomy:
like they've tried to make him much more "dark and evil" than he's supposed to be,; you're kidding right? This is the guy who is Hulk's biggest nemesis who ya know, killed Betty Ross in the comicss? I'd say that's a pretty dark character.

mabudonicus

06-04-2008, 07:58 PM

actually I DID read your "review" but it didn't mean much to me seeing as it didn't really bring much to the thread in question, sorry

And to be frank, you obviously haven't read much Hulk. The MAIN villain is in fact The Leader, a man as dangerously intelligent as the Hulk is... well, dangerous.. and huge, I suppose

And Abomination IIRC was a complete freak accident, not some "I want a shot at him through this therapy" guy

So yeah, I thought fanboys was bad but clueless phoney fanboys take the cake... "abomy" give me a freakin break, even if Stan himself used that term I would be against it
:beard: Iso&Baws

I suppose it'll be "joke-sty" or maybe "ster" for the batman film

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-04-2008, 08:49 PM

actually I DID read your "review" but it didn't mean much to me seeing as it didn't really bring much to the thread in question, sorry

And to be frank, you obviously haven't read much Hulk. The MAIN villain is in fact The Leader, a man as dangerously intelligent as the Hulk is... well, dangerous.. and huge, I suppose

And Abomination IIRC was a complete freak accident, not some "I want a shot at him through this therapy" guy

So yeah, I thought fanboys was bad but clueless phoney fanboys take the cake... "abomy" give me a freakin break, even if Stan himself used that term I would be against it
:beard: Iso&Baws

I suppose it'll be "joke-sty" or maybe "ster" for the batman film

So i'm a "phoney" fanboy cos my stupid nickname I picked up on and use from time to time? Who the hell are you exactly? I wasn't aware that the terminology I used somehow showed how many Hulk comics I had read in my life. Sorry, Lord Master of all that is proper in comic book etiquette, I bow before thee. Get over yourself, Mabs.

As for my love of the Hulk and whatnot, I've been reading comics for a long time and in my opinion, Abomination was always the best match for the Hulk. No disrespect for Leader, but I always preferred Abomination.

It's okay though, it's obvious you don't have much else to say since all you could do in your last post was attack my random nickname for Abomination and comment on the brief blurb I wrote about the crapfest of SPEED RACER. If you want a full review, I'll gladly send you the one I typed up, but what good would it do? You thought the film was good, I thought it was crap. Plain and simple.

On a seperate note, the 2 disc score for the film hits stores next tuesday! :thumbsup:

El Chuxter

06-04-2008, 11:00 PM

Not meaning to go any further off topic, but did you change your mind about Speed Racer or something?

. . . Had it been a trimmer, tighter film, i'd be raving about it. . . . I will say that I enjoyed the huge amount of heart that the film had. Everything Speed does, he does for his family and there is a great chemistry between the whole family.

Overall, did i enjoy it? Yes, but it could have been a bit leaner. I'm sure SR fanboys will complain to the moon about it though as its' not the exact cartoon.

I'd give it **1/2 out of ****
You had some valid complaints, but I only quoted the positives above. I'd interpret **1/2 on a four-star scale to be "above average." It's a pretty far cry from "horribly bad" and "crapfest." :confused:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-05-2008, 05:31 AM

Not meaning to go any further off topic, but did you change your mind about Speed Racer or something?

You had some valid complaints, but I only quoted the positives above. I'd interpret **1/2 on a four-star scale to be "above average." It's a pretty far cry from "horribly bad" and "crapfest." :confused:

The more I wrote about, the less and less I liked the film. I still think the family theme and the loyalty Speed had were the best parts of the film. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-12-2008, 06:40 PM

IMDB list o' reviews thus far, 91 positive and 19 negative.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800080/board/thread/107923874

I'm seeing it tonight at midnight; SO EXCITED!!! :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-13-2008, 07:48 AM

Caught it last night with a sold out theater of fans and it was awesome!!! I was worried since hearing about the editing issues, but there is a great deal of character development and drama and it's nicely balanced with a ridiculous amount of action. The trailers and commercials really don't do the CGI justice as it looked damn near flawless on the big screen.

I'll post my longer review later in the weekend, but I really recommend you folks check it out; yes, even those who will nitpick just to b**** about the flick should go see it. hehehhee :thumbsup:

Beast

06-13-2008, 08:19 AM

Can't be as much worthy of nitpicking as there is in Ang Lee's Hulk. I'm going to see it in a few hours and I'll let you know what I think. Can't wait for the eventual Blu-Ray release as well. As there's around 70 minutes of alternate takes and delted scenes that will be on it. Including a cut scene in the arctic where we get a glimpse of Captain America frozen in ice. They should have kept that in, would have been a nice connection to the 2011 Cap movie.

Blue2th

06-13-2008, 10:23 AM

Hey, I just saw the recent trailer for the Hulk, and it has Robert Downey jr. and John Hurt in it? :confused:

Jek Porky 2002

06-13-2008, 12:17 PM

Hey, I just saw the recent trailer for the Hulk, and it has Robert Downey jr. and John Hurt in it? :confused:

Yes, Robert Downey Jr appears right at the very end as Anthony Stark. He approaches General Ross and explains that he is planning on putting team together...

What does this mean?

Beast

06-13-2008, 06:13 PM

It's part of the shared Universe Marvel is seeding through the current pictures.

When he says 'We', he's talking about Nick Fury. It's a lead in for The Avengers.

Note that during the opening credit sequence you see Stark Industries and Nick Fury's name also.

Also the serum they used on Blonsky originally had some easter eggs relating to Captain America.

I also read that there is a building that has an Oscorp symbol on it during the brazil chase. I'm probably seeing it again this weekend, so i'll keep my eyes peeled for it.

and what did ya think about it, Beastie?

Beast

06-13-2008, 09:29 PM

It was fantastic. Pretty much everything I wanted from a Hulk movie. That we didn't get in the incredibly lame and boring Ang Lee version. Loved seeing teases set up for the next film. Such as Doc Samson and The Leader. As well as seeing Hulk do what Hulk does... SMASH!! While I would have liked them to retain more of the comic Abomination appearance, I think it works fine in the film. And he could always concieveable mutate further into a more lizard like appearance if they chose to bring him back at some point. Though however unlikely that is.

Only thing I didn't like was the fact that the filmmakers thought the Superhero Names of "Hulk" and especially "Abomination" were hokey, so we didn't get them directly refrenced by their names. Hulk's only called the Hulk by the Student who witnesses the rampage with the Army. And then Banner and Hulk may say it once at least each afterwards. And the Abomination is only refrenced by Sterns, when he warns Blonsky that it could turn him into an Abomination. But otherwise... it rocked. Especially the teases for future films.

Loved Stan Lee and Lou Ferrigno's cameos. And especially using Lou to voice the Hulk. "HULK SMASH!" was awesome to hear.... and the fight scene with Abomination was great. Hulk smashing open that police car and using one half on each fist like a pair of Boxing Gloves or Brass Knuckles against Blonsky was kick arse. Bring on The Avengers! Hell, bring on Thor, Captain America, Ant-Man, then the Avengers!

General_Grievous

06-13-2008, 09:39 PM

I liked it a lot. Better than Ang Lee's Hulk. And Blonsky was a great villain. Paired with "Iron Man", Marvel has had a good summer.

bigbarada

06-14-2008, 12:44 AM

Definitely better than the Ang Lee film. I really liked how it didn't focus on how the Hulk got created, the previous film got way too wrapped up in that.

My only complaint is that the acting is a little iffy in some spots and the chemistry between Banner and Betty Ross just wasn't quite there.

Also, Blonsky walking around in the Army Class-A uniform with that long hair and a scraggly beard was like fingernails on a chalkboard to this 10-year Army veteran. NOBODY who has served the US Army to that extent would disgrace the uniform like that..... but he was a bad guy, so I can excuse it.

Overall, not as good as Iron Man, but still an entertaining movie.:thumbsup:

In addition to the Stan Lee and Lou Ferrigno cameos, there's also a little homage to the guy who played David Banner in the TV show (I forget his name). It's not a cameo, just some old TV footage at the beginning of the film.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

06-14-2008, 03:41 AM

In addition to the Stan Lee and Lou Ferrigno cameos, there's also a little homage to the guy who played David Banner in the TV show (I forget his name). It's not a cameo, just some old TV footage at the beginning of the film.

Yeah, it was an episode of Seasame Street from when Bill Bixby was on it. That part made me grin cos it was great to see him honored, albeit briefly, in the film.

Also, the name of the student who was interviewed on the TV? Jack McGee!! Another reference to the series.

I just saw the film tonight and liked it. The Brazilian location was definitely different and foreign - a great pick.

The acting was good and Ed Norton did pretty well in the role.

No, this movie was not as good as Iron Man, but it was on par with Ang Lee's Hulk movie which I rather liked. With some discrepencies in the origin of the Hulk and how it happened (I think), the Ed Norton film serves as a nice sequel to the Eric Bana film. I'll be happy to have both in my collection.

I love the stuff with Tony Stark! I'm a new fan of Robert Downey, Jr. in that role and I like all that he's done with it so far.

Bel-Cam Jos

06-15-2008, 08:51 AM

My random musings... SPOILERS are possibilities at this point.

- I was taken aback at the Brazilian slum hill. I am pretty sure that's not an exaggeration of the living conditions there. I wondered if placing the ending action amid the skyscrapers of NY was meant to contrast with the beginning action amid the "hillscrapers" of Brazil. And the running through those broken- down places was pretty cool (audience reacted when the soldier fell down a few levels through the sheet.

- I liked the build up as a psychological film, leading into the smash-'em-up action fest later. Very much like the TV series (BTW, according to the credits, the Bill Bixby scene wasn't from Sesame St. but The Courtship of Eddie's Father, a show I've never seen but have heard of).

- Liv Tyler's dialogue was gripping. Here're some gems:
"Bruce?"
"It's alright."
"But I want to."
"Bruce?"
"Now! "
"Bruce?" (she said this one or two or 1,138 times)

- Loved how the moon was huge on the horizon fairly close to where the sun was setting at the end in NYC.

Overall, a pretty good flick. I look forward to who'll be their choices for the Avengers line up (c'mon Yellowjacket :p ). I assume the Hulk and Iron Man are definites, and probably Captain America. Giant Man/Ant Man could work, I don't know about Thor, Vision is a maybe.

Deoxyribonucleic

06-15-2008, 11:13 AM

I'd rather go see Sex in the City (and that's sayin' ALOT!) ten times than waste a dime and my time on this POS!! I wasted my time just posting about it, but I did it for you *wink wink

Anyway, I forgot to mention that of all ironies, I'm sitting there in the theater when they put Bruce Banner / Hulk on dialysis. :rolleyes:

I should have auditioned for the role of another "test subject" in this movie.

Some myth-busters I need to point out with regards to dialysis though:

1) when they put you on it, a gorgeous girl does not climb on top of you. I will try and make this change a recommendation for my clinic, however.

2) people tend to get weaker on dialysis, and you get used to seeing the sick and dying - they don't turn green, gain weight, and grow stronger. Dialysis actually takes weight off of you.

3) the doctors that see you tend to be actually sane in the head, but are much less entertaining.

Anyway, this movie could serve as an instructional video for my clinic and you might definitely see my attitude about life improve tremendously. :D

bigbarada

06-15-2008, 03:57 PM

Do I detect a strong opinion?

Anyway, I forgot to mention that of all ironies, I'm sitting there in the theater when they put Bruce Banner / Hulk on dialysis. :rolleyes:

I should have auditioned for the role of another "test subject" in this movie.

Some myth-busters I need to point out with regards to dialysis though:

1) when they put you on it, a gorgeous girl does not climb on top of you. I will try and make this change a recommendation for my clinic, however.

2) people tend to get weaker on dialysis, and you get used to seeing the sick and dying - they don't turn green, gain weight, and grow stronger. Dialysis actually takes weight off of you.

3) the doctors that see you tend to be actually sane in the head, but are much less entertaining.

Anyway, this movie could serve as an instructional video for my clinic and you might definitely see my attitude about life improve tremendously. :D

Just like radioactive spiders don't create super-powered spider-men, they just create dead spiders. Also a thin little lead lining on a refrigerator might stop SOME radiation at normal temperatures, but is not impervious to melting at thousands of degrees Fahrenheit or resistant to impacts with the ground at speeds of hundreds of miles per hour. So a little bit of suspension of disbelief is required.

Although that shouldn't stop you from campaigning to make #1 on your list standard policy at your local hospital.:D

sith_killer_99

06-15-2008, 10:10 PM

I am looking forward to this movie, though I never really cared that much for the Hulk story lines.

I have been confused about many aspects of the Hulk origins, name changes and usage has always been foggy at best. I always felt like the back story developed and was applied differently for given scenarios.

Was he the result of a lab accident of his own making or a horrible disaster that took place in a nuclear test in the desert? Is he Dr. Bruce Banner or Dr. David Bruce Banner. Then to mix it all up the last Hulk film throws dear old dad in the mix as Bruce Banner. I believe the TV show had his father as an older version of a Hulk monster.

Anyway, I find it all a little too annoying to follow, not that DC's post-Crisis/post-Infinite Crisis Supergirl is any better.

I just have to remind myself to let go of any preconceived ideas about the Hulk before I dive into anything like this latest project.:D

Still I am looking forward to this movie.:D

BTW, Bill Bixby is hands down my favorite actor to portray Dr. Banner. I like his portrayal better than the comics, even. I am hoping Mr. Norton can come closer to Bixby's portrayal than Eric Bana did in 2003.:rolleyes:

Tycho

06-16-2008, 01:18 AM

David Banner was Bruce Banner's father. You kind of got that mixed up.

Bruce Banner is The Incredible Hulk. In older versions, perhaps it was David. I used to mix that up myself and this might be why.

sith_killer_99

06-16-2008, 02:26 AM

David Banner was Bruce Banner's father. You kind of got that mixed up.

Ooops.

But you see what I mean, even when I had it straight in my head I got mixed up. LOL

Okay, originally (original comics 1962 first appearace) it was Dr. Robert Bruce Banner, I guess they all call him by his middle name. I had to look that one up...thanks wikipedia. It wasn't until the television show with Bill Bixby they changed his name to Dr. David Bruce Banner. This, I have heard had something to do with the name Bruce being associated with homosexuals at the time, so network execs added (read CHANGED) the name, and thus David Banner was born.

Sooo......Robert Bruce Banner = Bruce Banner and David Bruce Banner = David Banner....but....David Banner = Bruce Banner.:crazed:I think that's right, they are all the same person in any event.

In the television series Del Frye had become the Hulk in an experiment 30 years prior to David's accident. I had originally thought it was David's father in my first post. Del and David are not related. In the 2003 movie Bruce's father was named David as a tribute to the television show.

I'm not sure about his real fathers name from the comics. I doubt it has ever been mentioned.

His true origins still seem shady, the 1962 original version has Dr. Banner exposed to Gamma radiation as he is caught in the blast of a bomb he created. Again this differs drastically from the television series.

I wonder why this all confuses me so much.;)

Anyway, I hope I will enjoy the new film.

Tycho

06-16-2008, 04:11 AM

How can "Bruce" be a homosexual's name? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Parents name infants with no indications of sexuality and you can't look at a baby and decide it's going to be gay, then name it Bruce - unless of course a parent has a plan to raise a child to be gay in the first place. But there's no gaurantee that would work.

mabudonicus

06-16-2008, 07:03 AM

not 100% sure on the reason for the name change, tho I did think it had something to do with the name being not "manly" enough somehow- MAD magazine made a funny joke about that, having someone mention ing that while a TV in the background is blaring "BRUCE JENNER WINS THE DECATHLON!!"

Marvel origins are made of (at the VERY least) putty, they DO change according to what the writer at the time wants (hell, for much of Spider Man, peter parker was a clone depending on exactly which version of the "reality" you want to accept)

For the record I HATED the first movie, but I think anyone who DID hate it will feel "avenged" by this one

I saw this film yesterday. It's actually quite good, no joke. Despite some heavy themes overall the thing is totally hilarious (case in point Blonsky getting RAGDOLLED with prety much NO consequences)
I swear this film was almost THE most classic marvel thing made in terms of the silly heavyhanded-ness of it- pretty much EVERY scene could have had Stan Lee in a little box in the corner saying "didya see THAT marvelites??" and it wouldn't have taken much away from it.

I ain't saying it was Speed Racer good, but it was seriously Iron Man good if not a tad better just in terms of the fun factor. I went in expecting nothing and came out thankful for having seen it AND ready to watch it again
:beard: Iso&Baws
I'm gonna watch it a few more times

Bel-Cam Jos

06-16-2008, 10:31 AM

And to further confuse (or tantalize the fans) viewers, the letter mailed at the end of the film was addressed to "David B."

preacher

06-16-2008, 10:47 AM

Caught this last night. Waay better than Hulk. I wanted to see the Hulk beat the crap out of things and thats what I got. As a lot have pointed out there are a lot of easter eggs that the general audience would miss.

I really liked how they tied in Hulk's origin with the supersoldier formula. I also liked how they didn't dwell on the origin story. Wise move, really sped the pace.

I was confused at the end when Bruce is in British Columbia. Is he significance of that scene that he is able to Hulk out when he wants? Not just when he is angry?

bigbarada

06-16-2008, 11:02 AM

I always heard that the TV show changed the name from Bruce Banner to David Banner because the 1960s Batman series was still very popular at the time and they didn't want confusion with the names (Bruce Wayne/Bruce Banner).

I'm not sure how true that is, but it's always seemed to be an acceptable explanation to me.

TeeEye7

06-16-2008, 12:14 PM

How can "Bruce" be a homosexual's name? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Parents name infants with no indications of sexuality and you can't look at a baby and decide it's going to be gay, then name it Bruce - unless of course a parent has a plan to raise a child to be gay in the first place. But there's no gaurantee that would work.

"Bruce" was the name of choice while gay-bashing in the 60's and 70's. I remember it well because my oldest bother, whose middle name is Bruce, put up with carp from people (mostly in high school) because of it. Luckily, my brother the power lifter didn't put up with it for very long. How this name and association came about, who knows? People are just mean and stupid. Who cares about anyone's orientation? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?

I get weird stares and a certain amount of carp from people when they find out my middle name. It went from being a traditional male name to female thanks to Lisa Welchel's character's name in The Facts of Life TV show. Thankfully, I've got Blair Underwood to fall back on to show my name is :cool:

mabudonicus

06-16-2008, 12:48 PM

man as if there had to be another reason to HATE "facts of life", thanks TeeEye :)

I am still suffering from a bit of surprise from how much the film didn't suck tho, I would feel confident recommending it to pretty much anyone.

Even Thunderbolt Toss being played as quite cartoonish was good, I am going to have to pay more attention next viewing to see if the diner is in there somewheres, pretty sure it was
:beard: Iso&Baws

In Australia "bruce" actually is used the way we use the expression "guy" or "fella"

sith_killer_99

06-16-2008, 01:40 PM

So my question about his name for the television show is this:

If they didn't want to call his "Bruce" in the show, why go with David, when Robert was available for their use. This would have eliminated a lot of confusion. The headstone could have read Robert Bruce Banner (instead of David Bruce Banner), it would have maintained continuity and the simple explanation would have been, in the comics they call him by his middle name and on the TV series they call him by his first name. It's not perfect, but it works a lot better than what they went with.

JEDIpartner

06-16-2008, 02:31 PM

I think the CGI Hulk looks terrible. It really does just look like a CGI Hulk. *sigh* We've still got so far to go with that.

Tycho

06-16-2008, 02:42 PM

Well, in Ang Lee's version, the CGI work for The Hulk was made to resemble Eric Bana.

In this week's movie, the CGI work looks nothing like Ed Norton. I would have liked to see that tie-in.

Mr. JabbaJohnL

06-16-2008, 02:48 PM

Well, in Ang Lee's version, the CGI work for The Hulk was made to resemble Eric Bana.

In this week's movie, the CGI work looks nothing like Ed Norton. I would have liked to see that tie-in.
I read that they designed this Hulk before they cast Edward Norton.

Tycho

06-16-2008, 03:01 PM

I read that they designed this Hulk before they cast Edward Norton.

That was not a good move. The face should reveal some origin that begins with Norton.

The movie was great and I completely ignored the above preference while watching it, but that still would have been cool.

Jedi_Master_Guyute

10-21-2008, 12:06 PM

Reminder that the DVD comes out today!!!!

There is a single disc edition, a three disc special edition (one disc is a digital copy), and there is also the blu-ray. Best Buy has an exclusive lithograph free with any Hulk DVD purchase and Target has exclusive packaging that can be seen here: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/9013210-post30.html

I also read that Circuit City has a CD-Rom although I don't know what's on it. :thumbsup:

Tycho

10-26-2008, 07:50 PM

I just watched this on DVD for the first time since I saw it ONCE in the theater.

I really liked the film. The Hulk is a simple character. I'm not sure how complicated of plot you could involve him in. But they did the movie very well.

It made me want to buy giant action figures of Hulk and The Abomination and clobber them together! I still do. The next time I'm in Target, it will test my resistance.

If I DO buy them, it will open up a slippery slope because as you know, I will have to buy Batman stuff - and the good Batman stuff is Hot Toys and that is really expensive.