FD just need some PR lessons (and I in some self control) Speaking of which my "stance" of demanding a refund will hurt forum members : I have a few +1s which I gave out and a refund would mean they can't go either. What is worth more - the money back into my hands (of which now FD won't even blink at) or the chance for others to meet DB ?

Sadly life out here in the UAE does things to your mind, more so with the job I have ... Whilst I am not looking for excuses I can feel the rages coming on which is messing with my thoughts. I have sent a PM to Michael asking that he suspend my account for a few weeks : a bit of enforced vacation is probably a good idea for me right now.

I bought this a couple of weeks ago - never been on the multiplayer version yet. I'm not interested in interacting with other players. I don't wanna get interdicted by some kid screaming leet speak at me. I also don't wanna get interdicted with someone with no life in an ananconda who pops my little cobra just because for him that's fun.

That's also the reason I've never played MMOs on a PVP server/realm and for that's the biggest problem with this decision. I wouldn't mind meeting up with a few friends for a couple of hours online but they have made the whole game PVP so that won't happen now.

I'm disappointed by the lack of true offline as my isp can be flaky at times but if my internet goes down I'll just tether my phone - that should be plenty fast enough to get market stocks etc without eating my data allowance.

Whilst I do understand for, a very few people, requiring any internet will stop them playing and regret paying. That said I think most of the "shitstorm" is down to people having knee-jerk reactions and throwing their toys out of their pram.

For me this is a B grade franchise looking for the hit to make it mainstream. GTA owns the game=art ground. Saint's Row owns the WTF are kidding territory. Even Far Cry is knuckling in as current king of the sorta serious, sorta funny genre of sandbox games.

They don't have the budget to compete with GTA and I doubt they have the balls to face off against Saint's Row/Far Cry.

Whilst I love it to pieces as I was a 1984 player there is a nagging part of me asking what is the end game?

I just got my cobra and I'm wondering where this game will go.

I'm not saying SC <> ED because I've only played one of them but with ED I can't help but look at the most successful sandbox franchise of all time - GTA - and ask where is the bones. We have the tasty tasty meat but where is that bone in the center to hold things together.

Even X tacks on an attempt at a story, something to aim for. After one day in ED it feel's solitary, lacking direction, lacking character and completely devoid of emotion.

The gameplay is good but they desperatly need a writer to come and build the sand castle in the middle of the rather delectable sandbox they've made

Not really rocket science. They've made a game hard or long enough to be confident that it can't be realistically completed within 24 hours of launch. In case they get caught they've then promised to use the hither too unknown power of t'interweb to arrange for food to be delivered to a specific location.

This unknown wizardry of getting food delivered online is probably where they should base their next game. "The legend of laziness" a old school rpg where you fight the nagging fear you've entered a wrong address whilst fending off the probing questions of your wife.

BTW is it a mark of adulthood that you go from "Are we there yet?" to "Is it here yet?" or even the dreaded "Are you finished?"

don't mean to be negative but I downloaded this out of curiosity when it was <5gb online. BTW I have well over 400hrs clocked in the first two games.

No killer hook - that intro doesn't work at all for me, this isn't an intro which takes a game I'm a bit MEH about and makes me want to play. This is a MEH intro to a game I'm already doubtful about.

Bugs - like straight away! First character option gave me synopsis of her gameplay style, the next option asked which head I wanted to use!

I've doubted this all along but now this truly feels like a halfway point between an expansion and a DLC. Not going to play it unless it is CHEAP on steam but truly hope they get their shit together and deliver a proper BL3 on those "next-gen" paperweights.

Actually stopped playing this now and a large part of that was the repetition. Killer for me was getting to the new green area of Mordor (sayeth thou whaaaat?) And seeing an new entirely blank Sauren's army.

Back in the starter region some no name gimpy orc had somehow hit level 20 by my extreme bad luck. I'd run like a fat kid after a cupcake every time I saw him come the end, he did actually become a nemesis.

Tell me I've completed 11/20 main mission then wipe the orc slate clean whilst introducing another new flat small land but this time using green not brown as the default colour was the final straw for me.

Morale of this game: Nemesis system actually very good. Without it this would be a flat, dull, repetitive fantasy game.

I kinda feel like this was aimed at the PS3/360 gen of consoles visually. There are NO vistas - no real sense of scale. The whole thing seems to be a collection of very small pretty maps which don't add up to a world. Ai is pretty good overall but this hugely fails at feeling epic.

Edit: actually quite possible the real killer for me was the 1st dwarf mission was almost the entire length of the map away. I wanna start small and expand not be given a new area then tempted to run to it's farthest reaches.

Tom wrote on Oct 3, 2014, 21:55: The gameplay, while far more forgiving than the original Elite, is still too difficult and open-ended to get the kind of mainstream exposure one typically associates with a killer app.

Sorry if I missed the naunces of dogfighting back then but my tactic was:

1) Install all mining lasers2) Shot target when it was a single pixel on the screen

That worked great when I was ten - and I have very happy memories of shooting single pixels with lasers powerful enough to destroy meteors for hours!!!

take the good bits from x and combine them with the good bits of starpoint gemini and they may actually have something!

SPG2 has pretty nice combat, something bugs me about the chase cam but dunno what. However it's stations, people, universe, trading etc are pretty damn weak. X excels at all it's weak spots - even over excels in the case of the walking around the station shite - but X's combat always felt like an afterthought.