Reports say that the Celtics have yet to offer the Brooklyn picks or Jared Sullinger to Minnesota for Kevin Love.

This makes it a little more obvious as to why we have being left way behind in this race for Love.

This new trade of Love/Martin/#13 for Thompson/Lee is a horrible trade for Minny and doesn't help GS much. I think that's a big rumor. If Minny gets just Klay and Lee they will be right where they were last season or even worse with no future picks coming in either.

Reports say that the Celtics have yet to offer the Brooklyn picks or Jared Sullinger to Minnesota for Kevin Love.

This makes it a little more obvious as to why we have being left way behind in this race for Love.

This new trade of Love/Martin/#13 for Thompson/Lee is a horrible trade for Minny and doesn't help GS much. I think that's a big rumor. If Minny gets just Klay and Lee they will be right where they were last season or even worse with no future picks coming in either.

The Celtics, And Danny Ainge, are in the drivers seat in regards to BOTH Kevin Love with Minn, or trading Rondo and Green. Ainge has put this team in a very enviable position. It's just a matter of what THEY want to do. These are very smart guys, the owners, Ainge, n the rest. They are NOT going to blow this opurtunity without maxing it out. We all need to relax....and TRUST these guys. They want to WIN.....over money, but they also want to win for a LONG time

If the Warriors also offer a 1st round pick then it's game over for the Celts.

Klay Thompson has more value than Sully right now.

Actually Thompson would have to have more value than the sixth pick, Sully would be equivalent to Harrison Barnes in this situation as the second most valuable pieces in the respective deals. The funny thing is most Minnesota fans seem to think Barnes is a much more attractive addition.

I'm not a huge fan of Barnes and the guy seems to considered a bust in most circles, but it just goes to show how Sully is viewed outside of Boston.

Barnes is a 3 and Lee is a 4. Sully is NOT better than Lee or Love, the person he would be replacing. Adding Thompson to the mix only distances the two deals. Flip wants players, not picks......that's what the rumor is, and we don't have the players to match David Lee, Harrison Barnes and Klay Thompson.

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Flip Saunders is way off if he wants a package of Lee/Thompson and a Warriors pick for Klove and Martin.

Lee and Thompson are combined worse than Love-Martin (mainly because of Love). The Warriors pick will be nothing better than a early 20s selection.

Lee/Thompson will give the Warriors less wins if anything and maybe keep them even. If the deal includes Lee/Thompson/Barnes then ok, I see where he's going with it but Lee and Klay will make them even if not worse and the pick isn't close to valuable.

We can offer #6/#17 and BKN picks in the future which is probably be lottery picks by then and Sullinger, who I really like but he's never going to turn into some All-NBA guy, just a 16-10 at best, can replace Love at the 4 for the time being.. Olynyk is another piece that could turn into something decent as well.

I honestly think Saunders is just blowing smoke right now. He knows that Klay/Lee doesn't put Minny anywhere and they wont even resign in Minny too.

Saunders knows that the Celtics have the best assets to offer but he and the owner cannot stand that they may give their best player to Boston again for the second time in 7 years. Their in denial over there folks.

Unless Minny gets Lee/Klay/Barnes and a 1st (which is highly unlikely), then the Celtics are the frontrunners or Minny just keeps him

Sully or Oly and 3 1st round picks, #6, #17, and a future 1st, is fair.

If the Wolves don't want that then it's time to move on.

Agree with this one. It is fair only if it also facilitates some salary dump for the Celts. That will improve the possibility of other supportive moves.

Rondo has been talking about how he wants to start playing for championships. He will probably get moved before the draft.

On the crazy idea front, if there is any credibility to the Golden State and Minnesota proposal, how about a 3-way trade: Golden State gets Rondo, AB and Love, Minnesota gets Lee and Thompson and Boston gets Curry, Kevin Martin and #13. Cap fillers can exchange hands as well. Golden State is in win now mode and Curry has criticized the firing of Mark Jackson. Also, Love probably wants to play with Rondo. Minnesota gets the players that they "supposedly" want and Boston exchanges a star for another on a long term contract, picks up salary and another high draft pick.

Sully or Oly and 3 1st round picks, #6, #17, and a future 1st, is fair.

If the Wolves don't want that then it's time to move on.

Of course, that's the deal that I've been eyeing from the getgo. Apparently the Celtics have only offered 6/17/Oly so once they add Sully and BKN pick everything changes. It would be beautiful to see them take Wallace in a trade as well.

I just think when it comes down to it,unless GSW wildly overpays, its us or KLove stays

I don't have a problem as long as the Celts also shed some salary. Minny has to take back salary to make the trade work. The salary dump justifies the third pick. Otherwise, Sully, #6 and #17 are a fair exchange for Love.