Madison, Wis., Jul 2, 2014 / 03:50 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Diocese of Madison, Wis. explained its response to same-sex couples who present children for baptism, welcoming sincere baptism requests but also warning of speculative or scurrilous news reports on the subject.

In a June 27 statement, the diocese reproduced vicar general Monsignor James Bartylla's May 10 confidential e-mail to priests, which noted that each request for baptism for a child being raised by a same-sex couple must be evaluated individually.

Priests who receive such requests should contact him to consult and coordinate, Msgr. Bartylla said.

As you know, there a plethora of difficulties, challenges, and considerations associated with these unnatural unions (including scandal) linked with the baptism of a child, and such considerations touch upon theology, canon law, pastoral approach, liturgical adaptation, and sacramental recording, the monsignor added.

That confidential e-mail drew the attention of the Wisconsin State Journal and attracted other national news, with the Wisconsin paper describing it as a change in process.

Religion News Service reporter David Gibson wrote about the Madison diocese's approach June 26, depicting it as a possible new cultural battleground and claiming that there is a trend to curb baptisms. He cited critics of Madison Bishop Robert Morlino who suspected the policy would curb baptisms he considers problematic.

In response to media coverage, the Madison diocese reproduced two statements its communications director Brent King sent to the Wisconsin newspaper.

Sorry but I just don’t see anything right about baptizing the children of homosexual couples, unless the children will be taken away from them permanently once baptized. The “parents” are not living in anything resembling a state of grace and should not have the children in the first place.

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posted on 07/03/2014 6:06:26 AM PDT
by NRA1995
(I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)

The Russian Orthodox Church thinks that 1) infant baptism is performed due to faith of parents, 2) if the parents are a same-sex couple or have used a surrogate mother, had an extra-corporal, etc., they show lack of faith. Therefore such infants aren’t to be baptised, but they can be baptised when they have grown up to a certain age and voluntarily ask for baptism.

**As you know, there a plethora of difficulties, challenges, and considerations ... and such considerations touch upon theology, canon law, pastoral approach, liturgical adaptation, and sacramental recording, the monsignor added.

Why would the liturgy of a baptism need to be adjusted. Wouldn’t there be normal godparents?

The Gay Mafia will try to excoriate this guy, but the Monsignor is right. The church is willing to perform baptisms, but doesn’t want to be part of an attendant media circus, or speculations about “gay rights” etc.

If the baptism is just about the kid, without all the peripheral nonsense, the Church will perform it gladly.

That new show on HBO “The Leftovers”, about the Rapture, it shows two females driving a car, one black, one white. Then the narrator says something to the effect “Little Johnnie is being taken to school, by his mothers, when all the sudden he disappears”. This queer, degenerate garbage is all over TV and it’s being passed off as normal behavior. Makes me sick to my stomach.

“The Russian Orthodox Church thinks that 1) infant baptism is performed due to faith of parents, 2) if the parents are a same-sex couple or have used a surrogate mother, had an extra-corporal, etc., they show lack of faith. Therefore such infants arent to be baptised, but they can be baptised when they have grown up to a certain age and voluntarily ask for baptism.”

John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Rev. Matthew Henry’s Commentary

The regenerating work of the Holy Spirit is compared to water. It is also probable that Christ had reference to the ordinance of baptism. Not that all those, and those only, that are baptized, are saved; but without that new birth which is wrought by the Spirit, and signified by baptism, none shall be subjects of the kingdom of heaven.

The same word signifies both the wind and the Spirit. The wind bloweth where it listeth for us; God directs it. The Spirit sends his influences where, and when, on whom, and in what measure and degree, he pleases. Though the causes are hidden, the effects are plain, when the soul is brought to mourn for sin, and to breathe after Christ.

This diocese will be in bog trouble when the Vatican finds out. Canon law requires that a couple presenting their child for baptism have to be living the faith. So-called gay, so-called marriage is not living the faith.

It’s my understanding that Catholics only baptize infants with the understanding that the parents are going to raise them in the faith. Married homosexuals, by their defiantly rebellious actions, clearly demonstrate that they have no intention of doing that.

That new show on HBO The Leftovers, about the Rapture, it shows two females driving a car, one black, one white. Then the narrator says something to the effect Little Johnnie is being taken to school, by his mothers, when all the sudden he disappears.

So I am assuming that the Lesbos aren’t raptured as well with little Johnnie? That would make sense.

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posted on 07/03/2014 6:56:46 AM PDT
by BradtotheBone
(Record number of people on welfare. That's the State of the Union under Obama.)

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