Dragonwrath

Wll it be worth it to go back and grab Dragonwrath once 4.3 hits. Im about to get the Runestaff, and i don't think i will end up getting enough essences before the new patch. Will it be worth it to make my raid team go back to an old tier to get it?

Yes it sure will! If it is like Val'anyr, then it should stay BiS till end of expansion.. But then again, it might just be that Deathwing Heroic drops better weapons. Though what would be the use of that? As probably quest weapons in MoP will be better than that...

Well looking at about a two hour window of PTR testing I only had a 3.3% proc chance of Dragonwrath, in comparison to the 9-12% you can get on live.

Someone will probably call me out on this and I might be wrong since I don't have an actual physical proc percentage at the minute but the proc alone seems to have been nerfed down to about a 1500 DPS increase. Meaning, the Madness of Deathwing heroic staff MIGHT be better, as I said though don't hold me to that, someone will probably call me out on it.

Yes it sure will! If it is like Val'anyr, then it should stay BiS till end of expansion.. But then again, it might just be that Deathwing Heroic drops better weapons. Though what would be the use of that? As probably quest weapons in MoP will be better than that...

And once you kill Heroic DW, what's the point of continuing? (assuming you get every ach already for your Glory of Dragon Soul)

---------- Post added 2011-10-30 at 06:07 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Malefic

Well looking at about a two hour window of PTR testing I only had a 3.3% proc chance of Dragonwrath, in comparison to the 9-12% you can get on live.

Someone will probably call me out on this and I might be wrong since I don't have an actual physical proc percentage at the minute but the proc alone seems to have been nerfed down to about a 1500 DPS increase. Meaning, the Madness of Deathwing heroic staff MIGHT be better, as I said though don't hold me to that, someone will probably call me out on it.

I do like the haste procc and the fact it gives your raid members some haste too.

I HATE the fact it has 0 secondary stats to reforge to hit. That makes it relatively weak when the procc isn't up

---------- Post added 2011-10-30 at 06:08 AM ----------

Originally Posted by sinisterwyvern

Yeah i'm at like 400 something cinders.. I'll be running firelands til 5.0 to finish this thing it feels like =/

If you're 6/7H, you should have it by mid January.

I'm at ~600ish and using napkin-math I did with the guild's FIRST staff-getter (we're a 10 man guild), he's getting his in about 2 weeks and I'm getting mine about 6-7 weeks after him.

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Remember that they are nerfing the staff, probably so people will be using weapons from Deathwing and from patch 4.3 instead....

More likely they're nerfing it for scaling purposes.
Imagine if the staff worked like it does on live now, but on a caster in full heroic Dragonsoul gear....
ESPECIALLY considering the fact that the non-legendary wielding casters will most likely get prio on the deathwing weapons, which in turn boost the legendary wielders even more (if this doesn't make sense to you, go read up on deathwing weapons).

I have 32/250 essences and with the math I did I'll get mine first week of December and I sure hope DS doesn't come before that :P
And, even if Deathwing HC weapons will be better you still have to down that boss and the weapon must drop and you must win it >.< but I'm really sad that its getting nerfed ;( first legendary I ever get (Almost any caster ever get) and its getting nerfed ;/

Yeah i'm at like 400 something cinders.. I'll be running firelands til 5.0 to finish this thing it feels like =/

I was second third in line to get the staff, but then our second in line warlock quit the game. So now I'm at about 340 cinders gather in 2 weeks time. According to my calculations, I have 8-9 more weeks of farming till I have my staff.

And I speculate that 4.3 is gonna hit around the release date of SWTOR, so by the time 4.3 hits, I'll probably be 1 week or 2 weeks away from my staff. Then again, I think it is definitely worth going back for it, since it's obviously going to be better than any normal mode DW weapon, but do it on offnights, at least I'm willing to pay my guildies who help me complete it if I don't have it by the time 4.3 comes out.

10 man guilds kind suck when it comes down to getting this legendary.

---------- Post added 2011-10-30 at 05:22 PM ----------

Actually, after doing some math. DragonWrath will have 27 more intellect than the heroic version of the DW staff. However, the DW staff will give you 539 extra spell power, but no static haste or hit rating.

So question is. Will the proc, extra int, static haste, hit and proc outweigh 539 spell power and a 1740 haste proc (since 435 of that haste is also given to players around someone with the staff, assuming you're one of them if you have dragonwrath.)

Remember that they are nerfing the staff, probably so people will be using weapons from Deathwing and from patch 4.3 instead....

The nerf is only 2-3%; if you have it, you're not going to be replacing it. Before anyone says "what about H Deathwing loot?", that's a moot point because once you beat him on heroic, you've beaten the game and at that point you're farming gear you'll replace while leveling to 90.

As I'm making 25m weekly 7/7 + shannox (of course) heroic, for my staff, and getting runestaff next reset, I truly do hope i get to enjoy it, at least for a little while until 4.3. Though the haste procc on the wep from dw is sehx, I'd rather go around epeeing with my legendary. )

Just a quick question, if I'm lucky with getting smoldering essences relatively quickly, that would mean I would only use one month collecting them, right? +/- 1~2 weeks.

Are they making Firelands part of the Looking for Raid groups too? Only asking cause if they are, will we be able to siphon souls from Bosses there? Or would it need to be normal/herioic corpses that gief them?

Are they making Firelands part of the Looking for Raid groups too? Only asking cause if they are, will we be able to siphon souls from Bosses there? Or would it need to be normal/herioic corpses that gief them?

It's only the Dragonsoul Raid slated for release with the raid finder. They didn't want to hold it up adding older content to it as well.

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