You sir are exactly correct. The only problem is fans or so called fans across the league are too busy bashing other city’s and fans to ever come together and realize the power that the fan actually holds. I mean look now, the lock out is only a month over and people are on the “move _____ to L.A.”. Nice idea in theory, but NFL fans will never come together. Pretty sad actually.

I agree with you, and I also agree with a few other people on here as well….

I live in Nashville, TN. I couldn’t be more of a Die Hard Bucs Fan. I am not rich, by any stretch of the immagination. I plan, and budget my money. If I lived in the Tampa Area, I would be a season ticket holder. I am going to the game in November here in Nashville, 2nd row seats behind the Bucs Bench. It cost me $700.00. Yup, a lot of money, however, I don’t get to do it very often.

If I was a Bucs fan in Tampa, and wanted to support my team, I would find a way to go. (not at 700 a pop though)

Now…. on the other side of it, the Lock out discurraged a lot of “fans”. When this happened, and more revenue goes to the players, I knew prices would go up on everything… they gotta make up the money, so lets take it from the fans. I knew this would happen. If fans boycotted all 32 teams… I guarantee the prices would come down.

]]>By: deadeyehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231451
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:10:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231451Going to the game sux compared to watching on TV in the comfort of your own home. The NFL does need to lift the blackout rule, it makes no sense. In my life (and I am a big NFL fan), I have NEVER gone to a game on the basis of a blackout preventing me from seeing it. If it’s blacked out, I watch a DIFFERENT game. The owners are really stupid on that blackout rule.

Also, ticket prices are absurd. I only go to games now if someone “gives” me a ticket for free. Here’s why I won’t buy a ticket to an NFL game ever again and will instead watch on TV:
-No traffic
-No crowds
-No overpriced crappy food
-No dirty bathrooms
-No paying for parking
-No drunks cussing and getting in fights around my kids
-No missing a replay on controversial calls because they refuse replay those on the jumbotron
-No missing out on other highlights around the league
-No heat
-No uncomfortable seats

The NFL doesn’t understand that the TV experience far surpasses going to the game.

]]>By: corvusrex96http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231438
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:02:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231438L.A. Dolphins has a certain ring to it. Heck even the colors and logo won’t need to be changed.
]]>By: gmoney328http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231385
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:38:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231385Simple, lower the prices and put a winning team on the field.
]]>By: polishkingskihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231270
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:38:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231270seriously, look at how simple this solution is. the league makes gazillioins of dollars off of tv. lift the blackout rule, more people watch, better ratings, tv revenue up, lower ticket prices and concessions (33% would be fair), attendence soars, stadiums filled, we all win. if the league thinks i am leaving my kitchen (polish people tend to socalize in the kitchen of the house), while cooking a mint supper while drinking crown royal, watching my superb hdtv with my buds and family they are loco.
]]>By: polishkingskihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231162
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:42:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231162the rebels will always prefer college football. its in their blood, undying regionalism. i know, i lived there for some time. nfl means squat down south.
]]>By: granadafanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1231143
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:37:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1231143No matter how good the TV is at home with all food you want, cheap, cold beer, pausing, bathrooms, BBQs outside, the experience at the stadium with thousands of other fans just can’t be beat.

However, the NFL, in all of its greed have made the cost benefit swing to watching the games at home or in bars. The NFL doesn’t seem to realize that there is this little problem called the recession and high unemployment. I know it’s hard for billionaires to even comprehend problems we peasants and serfs have, but they need a reality check.

The idiotic blackout rule needs to go. The NFL is the only business in the world which punishes its customers for not buying its luxury products.

]]>By: justentertainingthestupidhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230841
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:36:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230841The Dolphins don’t have any trouble selling tickets. Every game will sellout this year. This is not even a story. I hope you people in New Jersey never get your power back on.
]]>By: gobills716http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230807
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:27:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230807102 straight “sellouts”. I have watched dolphin games where there are more orange seats than fans.
]]>By: oldhamletmanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230721
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:52:24 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230721who can afford to go to an NFL game anymore?

the real NFL Mania started in the 70s and 80s in major recessions with NFL games being the highlight of working class life in a lot of cases….

now, there is no way blue collar, hard working families can afford to be die hard fans…..

and it’s especially galling when you see the JaMarcus, Haynesworth, etc. pay for lay crap going on….

wanna sell tickets NFL? remember where you came from and do something about it…..

1 – it’s much easier, cheaper, and better these days to watch NFL games on HDTV at home, or even in a bar – this is true everywhere, but it has a larger effect on game attendance where other local circumstances make attending the game a relatively less desirable thing

2 – FL has warm sunny weather throughout the season, so there’s almost always great, cheap recreation alternatives available, at the beach, etc.

3 – FL has hot sunny weather through most of the season, and it’s miserable to sit and bake in the sun during a daytime game before December or so, by which time a team is either a playoff contender, or not

]]>By: shackdelriohttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230648
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:18:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230648“bradygazelle says:
Aug 30, 2011 11:36 AM
Why don’t the Jaguars do that season ticket thing for $9 per game like they did last season?”

You’re still trying to get people to believe this. It only happened in your imagination…

]]>By: helldog33http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230567
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:37:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230567Gee, do I want to watch on TV for free, or pay $100 for cheap seats where I can’t see the action, and to park in a lot full of drunk fools. No brainer here. I can see the game more cheaply, more comfortably, and can see the action far better on TV at home.

Why pay to watch this game when you can watch for free courtesy of advertisers? And boo hoo for the NFL, they’re still making coin aplenty.

And btw what’s with this “Tailgating” thing? Eating and getting drunk in a freaking parking lot is fun? WTF?? Yeah, I’m fortunate enough to live right on the beach nearly directly east of Dolphin/Pro Player/Sun Life/ Joe Robbie/whatever stadium, so I have more access to recreation and entertainment and nice weather than most. But seriously, “Tailgating”?? Glad I don’t live in flyover country. I’d rather spend time before and after the game boating or swimming then hanging in a parking lot.

Whatever happened to supply & demand? I love the Dolphins but I’m not paying those prices to watch this team, sorry. It’s so expensive now its beyond just a hobby.

In high school economics they taught us companies lower prices if demand isn’t there. I’m still waiting to see this happen. In fact I’m still waiting for my pay to return to pre-2008 levels, from which I’ve also noticed NFL prices NEVER decreased commensurately with our earnings during that time.

]]>By: emma333http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230509
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:08:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230509Jeff2380 The Jaguars do post the # of tickets needed to be sold to avoid a blackout…It’s called transparency. Most teams do not do this…We had no blackouts last year, and this was part of the reason. Things are a bit tougher this year…but at least we know where we stand.
]]>By: FinFan68http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230505
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:08:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230505The NFL teams have brought this issue on themselves. They geared away from the common fan and towards the corporate fan. Companies buy large lots of tickets and let their big-shots, clients, and an occasional employee go to the game. When the NFL realized that was happening, they started to raise the prices while they courted individual corporations. Now that there is a bad economy the corporations are not doing that anymore. The average fans are being asked to take up the slack but there are several factors preventing it. Prices, drunk b@st@rds, hooligans roaming the parking lots, concession prices, parking fees, traffic, etc.

Economic times are an issue and many people rightly value necessities more than entertainment. The HDTV experience is good and cheap. So is heading out to the local sports bar to watch your game and keep an eye on all the others. The NFL left a bad taste in fans’ mouths fromhow both sides handled their squabble over our money. I think they should eliminate all blackouts this year.

That’s news to me. Every post that I’ve ever read by a Jaguar fan it’s always read “no blackouts”. There’s not one Jag fan that doesn’t know our ticket situation. You’d would have to be pretty ignorant to think that every game was a complete sellout last season every though we had zero blackouts. You’d also have to be the same if one were to believe that all other 31 team are completely selling out in this economy.

Look here’s the deal. As the post above reads, the Jaguars have been completely transparent on their website with tickets starting after 17K cancelled season tickets right when economy went belly up in 2008-09. 17K season ticket holders just don’t cancel tickets for no other reason. I realize everyone hates Jax, but the economy excuse works in every other market except Jax. Especially when that was the main reason a vast majority of those 17K said was why the cancelled.(lost job, moving b/c of lost job, etc.) Besides do the math, 50K +17K=67K(stadium capacity)

No other team has those numbers on their website and if they did doesn’t it make sense that 50, 957(which is Jag number to avoid blackout) that all the other 8-9 teams with tickets issue are right around that vacinity.

Bottomline, does Jax have ticket problems? Yes. After losing 17K season ticket holders what do you expect. The media portrays it as if Jax is the ONE and ONLY team in the history of the NFL to ever have ticket issue and blackouts. People hate the Jax and the Jaguars and that’s fine. Personally I could care less about the other 31 teams in the league. We have passionate fans just like other citys, but the media has told a different story. Jaguar fans just want the media to at least report the facts instead of slanting stories to fit agendas and demonizing a city and fanbase. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.

]]>By: jeff2380http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230473
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:55:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230473why dont these teams actually inform the fans of how many seats are left to reach a sell out. I am sure if they tell the public there only 5000 short than a couple people talk there buddies into going and magically its a sell out. im a bucs season ticket holder and the steelers and falcons game sure did look like a sell out to me maybe 1000 short they could have easily sold that if they let us know they were that close. have an online talley on the teams website of how many tickets per game remain. local sports radio will start getting involved and it would help. wait i should trademark this
]]>By: tatum064http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230465
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:52:13 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230465im guessing a Tebow trade to Miami wouldnt have hurt.
]]>By: dude317http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230426
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:40:16 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230426Sorry, lots more important things for people to spend their money on that going to a sporting event. If you’re unemployed, unless the tickets are free including free parking and concessions, you aren’t going.
]]>By: bradygazellehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230421
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:36:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230421Why don’t the Jaguars do that season ticket thing for $9 per game like they did last season?
]]>By: shackdelriohttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230410
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:32:38 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230410“recon163 says:
Aug 30, 2011 11:01 AM
So when the Jag fans talk about sell outs which avoided a blackout, they really mean they got 50k into their 67k seat stadium.”

Who has ever said otherwise? It’s the same as every other team in the league.

]]>By: jw731http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230406
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:31:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230406Astute readers saw that oh so subtle correction..From two trips to SunLife to ne…..Credibilty, or actually checking the schedule might help
]]>By: jvibottomlinehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230404
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:30:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230404Anyone who pays to go watch the NFL in person is a moron these days. Buy yourself a 70″ HD LED TV, a lot of booze, a nice big room in your house for you, your family, and your friends, a BIG TIME BBQ, and Direct TV Sunday Ticket. Have your bookie and fantasy fb league pulled up on your notebook PC and I GUARANTEE you it will be the BEST Sunday of NFL you have ever had and for 17 weeks at a good price. NFL rules television, Major League Baseball rules ticket sales. They both STINK the other way.
]]>By: RussianBreadMakerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230402
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:29:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230402Move one of those teams to Virginia Beach.
]]>By: emma333http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/30/all-three-florida-teams-facing-blackouts/#comment-1230399
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:27:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=150815#comment-1230399recon163–You are correct that the blackout is based on general bowl…However, if you add the club seats (which at Everbank Field are the 10000 seats on the 50 yard line–most are filled)..That brings the total up to 60,0000. I think all blackouts at all stadiums are based on general bowl seating….The thing about the Jaguars is that they have chosen to be transparent about their ticket situation…Not sure other NFL teams are doing that…but once again, if other teams are blacked out it’s the economy…If the Jags have to face blackouts it’s because they have bad fans….You can’t have it both ways!!
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