need help with cleaning a gun

i bought the Remington fast snap cleaning kit. now im not used to this style of patch puller. the kind im used to has a big rubber washer to old the patch against the barrel. these are just a piece with a slot in it. how does that hold a patch against the barrel of a 12 gauge? maybe im not putting it in right

not really sure what you mean.
i buy a brush to fit each guage, then i make my own swab
i buy a string mop and take enough strands(we will just say 6) and center a string in the strands. tie a knot, that folds the strands in half ,or doubles the diameter. i use a lead sinker to drop the line through the barrel then add your chemical and pull through

do u guys use the kits with a cleaning rod or a cable? i was alyas told with the rods u had to be realy careful because if u rub the muzzle u can mark it up and mess up the trajectory. plus if u cant take barrel off u push all the dirt into the action. i like the ones with the plastic coated cables

If the bore[smooth] is really dirty, and needs a brush,
that's what I use to get the funk.
Then a piece of cotton t-shirt on a string, solvent if needed.
Then the leather.

If you cut a round piece of leather [and try also with cloth]
and put a hole in the middle, run a boot lace thru the hole,
and tie it to a small bead...or button....anything that will
keep the boot string from pulling thru the leather.
But you get the picture....and there are other ways to fasten
it......just experiment.