Absolutely ridiculous decision. They appoint someone and then don't give them any time to do the job. I'd imagine you'd have t be pretty desperate to want to manage them. I feel sorry for Heckingbottom and I hope he goes on to prove what a good manager he is, at some club which appreciates him.

I said from day one He has made a major cock up going to Helland Rd . Unfortunately he were never going to be given time they want instant success and get back where they "belong" I fecking hate then cnuts they deserve everything they get...

He will be fine. He gets a pay off and I don’t really think his credibility has been damaged people are just pointing finger at Leeds. Just a shame I think that they made the decision after the Sunderland job has been taken - could have been a good fit.

I personally think Heckingbottom is overhyped and isn't that great a manager. He'd have taken Barnsley down and was supposedly on the brink of a sacking before Leeds came calling.

It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success.

But, that does also indicate Leeds clearly screwed up big time with their recruitment processes.

Darlogramps wrote:I personally think Heckingbottom is overhyped and isn't that great a manager. He'd have taken Barnsley down and was supposedly on the brink of a sacking before Leeds came calling.

It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success.

But, that does also indicate Leeds clearly screwed up big time with their recruitment processes.

Any club can make a miatake with a managerial appointment even man u but how many so called mistakes have leeds made now. As cloughie said when a chairman keeps sacking managers he should be the next to go. Wont tarnish heckingbottoms reputation the way these arceholes go througth managers. A foreigner head coach/puppet/yes man will probably get this job. Leeds will only go up when a manager sees a season out. They are like the southport of the championship

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Darlogramps wrote:I personally think Heckingbottom is overhyped and isn't that great a manager. He'd have taken Barnsley down and was supposedly on the brink of a sacking before Leeds came calling.

It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success.

But, that does also indicate Leeds clearly screwed up big time with their recruitment processes.

He won twice at Wembley with Barnsley so he is not that bad

He would have taken Barnsley down and went backwards with Leeds so he is not that good either.

Darlogramps wrote:I personally think Heckingbottom is overhyped and isn't that great a manager. He'd have taken Barnsley down and was supposedly on the brink of a sacking before Leeds came calling.

It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success.

But, that does also indicate Leeds clearly screwed up big time with their recruitment processes.

He won twice at Wembley with Barnsley so he is not that bad

He would have taken Barnsley down and went backwards with Leeds so he is not that good either.

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I’m not sure how you can say that with such assertion - one point from safety when he left was hardly insurmountable. And is 16 games really long enough to prove anything at a new club?

I trust his reputation has been formed off the back of operating with what I’d imagine is one of the smaller budgets in that league for back-to-back seasons. Agreed on the notion though that it was a very strange decision to move so soon after signing the renewed deal, even more so when you consider he was employed by his home town club. The biggest black mark for me is why anyone would voluntarily put themselves forward in the first place to work under the regime in place at Leeds. Madness.

I’m sure he won’t have much trouble in securing his next job though. Great player for Darlo too.

Darlogramps wrote:
It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success. .

Totally agree with this comment.
Thank goodness our board had belief in Wright and White. Some on here wanted them sackng after just 12 weeks or so.

Darlogramps wrote:
It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success. .

Totally agree with this comment.
Thank goodness our board had belief in Wright and White. Some on here wanted them sackng after just 12 weeks or so.

Yes there were some calling for him to go, but they both still have a big job on. He’s removed a lot of popular players and if he doesn’t replace them with good ones then it could backfire. Having said that he’s made a good start

Darlogramps wrote:
It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success. .

Totally agree with this comment.
Thank goodness our board had belief in Wright and White. Some on here wanted them sackng after just 12 weeks or so.

You're right. I wanted him sacked after three months of poor form, aimlessness, no Plan B, no progress towards tackling our problems and no strategy to resolve these problems. Trying implement a formation and style of play which didn't suit the squad wasted three months and took us into the bottom three.

Amazingly, when he started fitting the players into a system that suited them, played with a more pragmatic style and actually had a coherent plan (I.E. all things I said he needed to do), we were successful.

But the jury is still out on TW (I'm sure he would admit this himself), particularly after some big characters have departed. Either way, he gets to own what happens this season, people can't use the previous manager excuse now.

Finishing mid-table last season was no great achievement (TW's words, not mine) so I don't know why his most ardent supporters are trying to pretend it was.

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Darlogramps wrote:I personally think Heckingbottom is overhyped and isn't that great a manager. He'd have taken Barnsley down and was supposedly on the brink of a sacking before Leeds came calling.

It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success.

But, that does also indicate Leeds clearly screwed up big time with their recruitment processes.

He won twice at Wembley with Barnsley so he is not that bad

He would have taken Barnsley down and went backwards with Leeds so he is not that good either.

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I’m not sure how you can say that with such assertion - one point from safety when he left was hardly insurmountable. And is 16 games really long enough to prove anything at a new club?

Barnsley did ultimately go down with a squad Heckingbottom put together. His replacement Jose Morais didn't have any time to mould the squad in his image.

That, combined with the fact Barnsley were in the relegation zone, and weren't on a great run of form, leads me to think, with a degree of confidence, he'd have taken them down. It's not an unjustifiable opinion, although of course it's also completely hypothetical.

Darlogramps wrote:
It seems bad to have sacked a manager without giving him a transfer window to reshape the squad. But if they genuinely believe they've made the wrong appointment, it makes no sense to persevere with someone you don't believe can be a success. .

Totally agree with this comment.
Thank goodness our board had belief in Wright and White. Some on here wanted them sackng after just 12 weeks or so.

Yes there were some calling for him to go, but they both still have a big job on. He’s removed a lot of popular players and if he doesn’t replace them with good ones then it could backfire. Having said that he’s made a good start

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Agree that both still have a big job on their hands, the season coming up is where they should be judged, not the 12 games or so when they first took over.. Even Heckingbottom got 16 games. If they fail they should go, no arguement with that at all.
Also agree that some of the popular players have been moved on. But , to be fair they were at their limit and the decision had to be made if we want to progress..

Heckingbottom lost the nucleus of his team and was given next to nothing to replace them with. He did well to have Barnsley in the mix to avoid the drop rather than cast adrift. As for Leeds, another example of the short termism now prevalent in football. Nobody gets any time anymore. Quite funny that Paul Tisdale was sacked for being 2nd bottom, but given time because he had to work his notice, ended up in the play off final.