i once saw a dream of space and it was the energy of lama yeshe and lama zopa rinpoche revealing to me that most unimaginable rebirths are possible. there is nothing limiting your potential to be.

If the thought of demons Never rises in your mind, You need not fear the demon hosts around you. It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned, there are neither buddhas or demons. He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue, will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion. Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

Being human is not the same as being better, I know that. But my question come to me when thinking in the conscience of a bug and the conscience of a human being. Bad or not, one is fully aware of things, more inteligent, etc; and then its hard to imagine how such a being can go directly from something like that (inteligent, aware of things, clear mind) to something so cloudy as the mind of a bug.

And remember, my point here is more about the clarity of mind and not about being good or bad. I know very well that many human beings are thousands of time worst than demons. Hitler is a good example.

smcj wrote:I remember Chime R. saying to the effect that humans tend to have karmic momentum (or something like that) and tend to be reborn human--but not always!

Whatever happened to the tortoise-and-rubber-ring analogy ? It would make sense if the 'sangha jury' were still 'out' on such matters _ _

The tortoise-and-rubber-ring analogy isn't for just any human rebirth. It is for a human rebirth where one has both the opportunity and inclination to practice Dharma, hence the precious human rebirth. If weighed against all the trillions of ants, fish, and such, the way the rarity is expressed seems statistically pretty accurate.

A footnote to that idea: If the teaching on PHR is understood and believed, it negates 80%+ of current western culture. Most of our modern culture is based on the assumption that there is no thing such as "Ultimate Truth", and if there is, it is not accessible to humans. That teaching says, "No, it is possible, only it is very rare." The rarity of the opportunity is why we have concluded it does not exist--wrong!

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If the thought of demons Never rises in your mind, You need not fear the demon hosts around you. It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned, there are neither buddhas or demons. He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue, will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion. Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

You might be taught this as part of Hindu influenced ignorance. It should be regarded as particular to forms of a buddhism that are perpetuated by those without a comprehensive education.I have been 'taught' this in a Buddhist context. Some children in America are being 'taught' intelligent design as a form of 'science'.I think we have to use a little of our post insect brain in all forms of 'teaching', otherwise the bugs might take over the earth . . .

You might be taught this as part of Hindu influenced ignorance. It should be regarded as particular to forms of a buddhism that are perpetuated by those without a comprehensive education.I have been 'taught' this in a Buddhist context. Some children in America are being 'taught' intelligent design as a form of 'science'.I think we have to use a little of our post insect brain in all forms of 'teaching', otherwise the bugs might take over the earth . . .

You might be taught this as part of Hindu influenced ignorance. It should be regarded as particular to forms of a buddhism that are perpetuated by those without a comprehensive education.I have been 'taught' this in a Buddhist context. Some children in America are being 'taught' intelligent design as a form of 'science'.I think we have to use a little of our post insect brain in all forms of 'teaching', otherwise the bugs might take over the earth . . .