*curses his 08/15 corsa* Oh well at least it totally dominates in traffic light drag races :lol: 106hp powering not even 900kg, it's a lil rocket. It vibrates alarmingly at 160+ km/h tho. Have this car since November 07, will drive it till march '10. Then its one year military service, and then I want a new car^^

I don't have a car since I don't have my license but I'm studying to get it then I get to drive my mam's car lol, a shitty underpowered Skoda Octavia! Convincing her to get the new Mitsubishi Lancer though then I can mod it and put an Evo X body kit on it

Bah its easy! Same as computer, u just take ur time go to forums and follow directions...

Oh and use the right tools! (sometimes they cost more than the parts)...lemmie see if I can find the install guide for the K&N on my car (it really is easy)....oil changes, brakes, intake (even some exahust), are all pretty easy

Good luck Dave with ur license, i've heard it's A LOT tougher to get ur license in Europe

Bah its easy! Same as computer, u just take ur time go to forums and follow directions...

Oh and use the right tools! (sometimes they cost more than the parts)...lemmie see if I can find the install guide for the K&N on my car (it really is easy)....oil changes, brakes, intake (even some exahust), are all pretty easy

Good luck Dave with ur license, i've heard it's A LOT tougher to get ur license in Europe

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Took me over a year and close to ten grand to get my license.

1. Take first aid course & certificate
2. Take theoretical test % certificate
3. Take driving lessons
4. Take exam one - fail
5. Take exam two - fail
6. Move to other canton and take more driving lesson since it became apparent that the driving instructor chick I had first sucked ass
7. Take exam three - pass

All you have to do around here is aviod anything that even resembles an accident, parallel park behind 1 car (not between 2, just behind a single car), do a u-turn in an empty driveway, and then you pass....$60 LOL

EDIT: But the process is: Pay $60 and take a written test on the spot. Pass written test and get driving permit w/picture, while u r there, schedule a road test. Take a 10hr class, then take the road test described above. LOL Insurance for new drivers is REALLY expensive though ($1000+ usually)

Motorcycle test is separate and more difficult (circles and figure 8's on a 1-way street isn't easy)

Well to get my licence I just have to pass the theory test and to do that I just need to get 35 out of 40 questions right then I can drive lol, have to wait at least 6 months after getting my provisional license til I can do my driving test and get a full license which just means I can drive on motorways and don't need a full license passenger with me lol.

I'll be applying for the theory test this week, I'll probably take it in 2-3 weeks and it just takes 2-3 days for them to send out the license. I'd like to be able to drift but I don't know if I'll be able to attend ProDrift Academy this year, they do it around September, I probably won't be ready for that and it costs €300 for the 1 day so I wouldn't want to waste it. I dunno, I might be able to drive well by then who knows lol.

As for my own car, pffft, I'm looking at Japanese cars but they all have something wrong with them. The cars themselves are good condition and all that and good price but the tax/insurance or something is a killer. I've looked at the AE86 Corolla but they're pretty pricey, the Nissan 350Z engine is too big, I'd never get insurance of be able to afford the 3.5L engine, the Sylvia I looked at had insurance of €1,800 a year and that was without mentioning it had a turbo, and the beauty Mazda RX-8 only has 20 miles per gallon (UK) but, 1.3L 250BHP engine...fuck it lol, you only live once lol. Now where to get 10 grand lol.

All you have to do around here is aviod anything that even resembles an accident, parallel park behind 1 car (not between 2, just behind a single car), do a u-turn in an empty driveway, and then you pass....$60 LOL

EDIT: But the process is: Pay $60 and take a written test on the spot. Pass written test and get driving permit w/picture, while u r there, schedule a road test. Take a 10hr class, then take the road test described above. LOL Insurance for new drivers is REALLY expensive though ($1000+ usually)

Motorcycle test is separate and more difficult (circles and figure 8's on a 1-way street isn't easy)

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So no driving in a city with actual traffic? Drving as a student in Bern (where I lived back then and started) is tricky. There are things like three-lane roundabouts with tramways, traffic lights and crosswalks. Yay to that. Third exam I took in Schaffhausen. And compared to Bern, it was massively easier

Tax isn't that big of a deal since the engine of the RX-8 is just a 1.3L, but the insurance is gonna suck since I'm only 17 and no matter how good of a driver you are, if you're under 25 they just give you the finger and charge a crap load more :shadedshu

But, the good thing about getting a used RX-8 is it only came out in 2004 and since the MPG is pretty crappy they're all pretty new and have low mileage, only thing I need to do is get the 6 speed manual instead of the 5 speed manual. 6 speed is around 245bhp and the 5 speed is around 190bhp, but stilll 190bhp isn't bad considering my mam's Skoda Octavia (which is a very big car) has like 109bhp and so does the Mitsubishi Lancer. The RX-8 is also kitted out, nice racing style seats and all other neat extras.

So no driving in a city with actual traffic? Drving as a student in Bern (where I lived back then and started) is tricky. There are things like three-lane roundabouts with tramways, traffic lights and crosswalks. Yay to that. Third exam I took in Schaffhausen. And compared to Bern, it was massively easier

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The final road test was in traffic, but you could get away with no actual road driving until ur test.
Depending on the area, you may not have to be out in traffic, think a state in the northeast the drivers are closed course around cones...and they get a license

I started out in a residental area, went about 300 yrds, did my parallel and u-turn, drove around the block to where we started, and got my license

Tax isn't that big of a deal since the engine of the RX-8 is just a 1.3L, but the insurance is gonna suck since I'm only 17 and no matter how good of a driver you are, if you're under 25 they just give you the finger and charge a crap load more :shadedshu

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Same in US, anything that RESEMBLES a sports car is $2000+ until ur 25 (or married )
BUT, you can buy something that isn't USUALLY a sports car and tweak it....finding that car is a bit more challenging

The final road test was in traffic, but you could get away with no actual road driving until ur test.
Depending on the area, you may not have to be out in traffic, think a state in the northeast the drivers are closed course around cones...and they get a license

I started out in a residental area, went about 300 yrds, did my parallel and u-turn, drove around the block to where we started, and got my license

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Here its at least one hour of traffic driving. Driving backwards around a turn on a heavily trafficed intersection? Absolutely. Intructors trying to lurk you into places you shouldn't drive? Absolutely. Instructors taking the metering rule to determine if you are absolutely in the middle of the parking spot and parallel and holler at you if you are two centimeters more to the right? Absolutley. That's what I had go to thru. At least I drive since two years without an accident.

Here its at least one hour of traffic driving. Driving backwards around a turn on a heavily trafficed intersection? Absolutely. Intructors trying to lurk you into places you shouldn't drive? Absolutely. Instructors taking the metering rule to determine if you are absolutely in the middle of the parking spot and parallel and holler at you if you are two centimeters more to the right? Absolutley. That's what I had go to thru. At least I drive since two years without an accident.

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Lol, I rolled a van within 6months of getting my license.

None of that stuff for our tests though...I think they should, some kids honestly don't know how to drive (i didn't )

Paint isn't that bad either. You could probably rent a decent air compressor and buy a good air gun....other than that you just need the right weather

What some ppl do around here is insure it under their parents and just add the new license as an 'occassional' driver on that vehicle, not as the primary driver

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Yeah, my mam would get me insured as a second driver on her car, it adds like 50% to her insurance but that's not bad, also helps my insurance because they ask if you've been a named driver.

Just looked at RX-8s again, a lot of them are up north, it would be a pretty long drive, but it can be done. None of them are over 50,000 miles, they all seem to have nice features. Heated and electric seats, heated mirrors, 6 cd changer, 17/18" alloys which I'd replace with lighter ones, air con and so on, so you get a pretty good car lol.

Yeah, my mam would get me insured as a second driver on her car, it adds like 50% to her insurance but that's not bad, also helps my insurance because they ask if you've been a named driver.

Just looked at RX-8s again, a lot of them are up north, it would be a pretty long drive, but it can be done. None of them are over 50,000 miles, they all seem to have nice features. Heated and electric seats, heated mirrors, 6 cd changer, 17/18" alloys which I'd replace with lighter ones, air con and so on, so you get a pretty good car lol.