"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "

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If statistics were a real math, statisticians should be able to predict the next throw of the craps dice and make millions in Vegas. Since few statisticians are multimillionaires, statistics must not be real.

If engineering were a real science (heh), then engineers should be able to tell which of the 2012 model Ford cars are more different than the Model T.

How does this person function in the real world?

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"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "

"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "

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Four.

Do we count "paying attention to VD's witterings in the first place" as one of the wrongs?

--------------Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

"To give another example, if evolution were a real science, biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, as well as which population groups within a species were more evolved than the norm. "

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Four.

I can make four, but are they the same four?

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"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't."biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail."as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line."were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't."biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail."as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line."were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

Henry

There's no such thing as 'more evolved' either. 'More evolved' implies that a population has a history that is longer than other populations.

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"if evolution were a real science, " - this pretends that it isn't."biologists would be able to predict what the next species to evolve would be, " - the theory doesn't imply ability to predict that level of detail."as well as which population groups within a species " - same fallacy as in previous line."were more evolved than the norm. " - there's no such thing as "norm". (unless you're watching Cheers.)

(Although I suppose the 2nd and 3rd ones in that list could be considered duplicates; they just refer to different sized groups.)

Henry

There's no such thing as 'more evolved' either. 'More evolved' implies that a population has a history that is longer than other populations.

If it is coupled with a specific point, "more evolved" can give us comparisons. For example, which species is more evolved for climbing trees - sloths or whales? Other then that, yeah, it's incoherent.

As for the original OP, the only mistake that I saw was Teddy trying to play as if he understands science. With that mistake, everything he says is useless twaddle.

--------------"Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Antivaxxers are out in force today. In the comments section a hilarious nutter RobertT laments:

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Sometimes I think we would be better off if we burned all scientists at the stake. I am a big believer in research and observing patterns, but I am continually struck by the fact that out-and-out "science" is fraudulent, and every occupation or profession becomes more fraudulent as they get closer and closer to actual science. Perhaps the most honest professions are the least "scientific of all."

I notice people chatter about the details in these cases, but at some point everyone would be better served by backing up, taking a wider view and accepting what is surely obvious by now. Science, as it is practiced today, is pure bunk and more dangerous than dancing with rattlesnakes. And twice as deadly. The fat hypothesis has probably killed more people by now than any other cause since we started scratching our history on rocks and parchment.

Antivaxxers are out in force today. In the comments section a hilarious nutter RobertT laments:

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Sometimes I think we would be better off if we burned all scientists at the stake. I am a big believer in research and observing patterns, but I am continually struck by the fact that out-and-out "science" is fraudulent, and every occupation or profession becomes more fraudulent as they get closer and closer to actual science. Perhaps the most honest professions are the least "scientific of all."

I notice people chatter about the details in these cases, but at some point everyone would be better served by backing up, taking a wider view and accepting what is surely obvious by now. Science, as it is practiced today, is pure bunk and more dangerous than dancing with rattlesnakes. And twice as deadly. The fat hypothesis has probably killed more people by now than any other cause since we started scratching our history on rocks and parchment.

He said, while ironically using a computer and the internet, sitting in an air-conditioned house, eating processed food and planning for a trip (in a car, with a battery, internal combustion engine, modern tires, plastics, refined metals, etc) to the doctor (where he will take all his anti-biotics) and bitch about science.

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The warmouse.com URL is now a generic placeholderish page; according to Internet Archive's archived copies of warmouse.com from different times, the website died sometime between 30 Oct 2012 (the latest archived copy with real content) and 23 Aug 2013 (the first archived copy immediately after the 30 Oct 2012 a.c., this one being a generic placeholderish page). No idea when, within that nine-month "window", the website went dark. Perhaps someone with greater internet savvy and greater interest than myself can narrow it down.