The pics of earlier prototypes that show the clip’s retaining ring sitting flush with the body of the light.

MokrySedeS wrote:

I believe that Scallywag is talking about this:

The latest black clip protrudes beyond the FW3As body while the silver one does not.
The ugly hole – meh. Can live with it. The ugly paint job – rather disappointing. But this… this is a dealbreaker for me

zak.wilson wrote:

It is not fit.

OK, thanks for clearing that up guys.
I understand now….. “It is not fit”. It appears in that picture anyway.
…….‘Hopefully’…. it is not as bad as it ‘appears’ in that particular picture.

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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant

If this light ends up at the same price as the D4 – let alone more expensive – I will have zero interest.

You can get a D4 for $35 right now though…

I am just bored with side switches at this point. I’m personally willing to spend a little more for something different.

All this is just idle speculation until we hear from Lumintop or Neal or TK or whoever on the price. Heck, maybe the Easter Bunny knows.

That’s my point exactly. The price has to be competitive with the D4 when compared against the same emitter options, especially since this has one less and the X-PL HIs are a significant portion of the cost of a D4 with them.

Evidence so far is they don’t pay much direct attention to this thread.

Something that was said recently by someone on TLF who is in contact with Lumintop gave me the impression they did at one point in the past look at this thread, but suffered a debilitating eye-roll injury as a result.

Personally, I still don’t care about the color of the clip, as long as it is not something that is going to rust if whatever the coating is wears off, but the apparent protrusion of the clip ring from the body should be obvious as undesirable.

If that is final, I will still buy it, but be a bit disappointed at the need to sand down the outer diameter.

You’re probably right that they haven’t paid much attention to this thread. It gets hard sometimes for even BLF members to follow it everyday.
Hopefully, there are no glaring issues, or dealbreakers with the samples. Hopefully, the clip fit, and it all fit. Hopefully, production and sales will start soon. Hopefully.

Something that was said recently by someone on TLF who is in contact with Lumintop gave me the impression they did at one point in the past look at this thread, but suffered a debilitating eye-roll injury as a result.

With that priceless comment iamlucky13, you win the internet today as far as I am concerned. .

I love it!!

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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant

That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.

In all seriousness oweban, this is a good idea. I don’t think we can ‘expect’ it, but it would be nice if someone from the vendor/company would post every week or two with a brief update on what is happening. And ideally it would be the same person each time.

They should not be expected to answer question or even actively participate in discussions, only to post a brief update every couple of weeks.

But, since the team members of projects usually have to beg for info…. this is unlikely I guess. Unless possibly it is somehow part of the original agreement when a ‘collaboration’ is finalized. But even then it would be unenforceable.

Firelight2 wrote:

While I prefer the original bare metal clip, having a painted black clip or one where the ring sticks out slightly from the light is a minor issue to me.

I think it’s silly when I see people posting they won’t buy the light because of it. But to each their own.

I agree. To me it is utterly comical to read those “I won’t buy because…..” posts.

Though “comical”, it is kinda sad too. Why do people feel the need to post that… just don’t buy.

But, I guess your right; “to each their own”.

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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant

That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.

In all seriousness oweban, this is a good idea. I don’t think we can ‘expect’ it, but it would be nice if someone from the vendor/company would post every week or two with a brief update on what is happening. And ideally it would be the same person each time.

They should not be expected to answer question or even actively participate in discussions, only to post a brief update every couple of weeks.

But, since the team members of projects usually have to beg for info…. this is unlikely I guess. Unless possibly it is somehow part of the original agreement when a ‘collaboration’ is finalized. But even then it would be unenforceable.

Even if it’s someone from the forums (TK, tatasal, etc) that keeps up on it and gives the TLDR and relays feedback – the rep from Lumintop doesn’t need to actually read the thread nor post, just a bit of a once-a-week catch-up. I guess there’s lots of ways it could be done, but I guess we’ll just wait for the latest photos/thoughts, as I’m not going to be drawn into guessing what’s the most up-to-date.

I would not be surprised if……. (snip, perceived silliness deleted) ………..

Seriously?? .. .. What a silly post.

sure he is exaggerating, but it’s really not silly, it goes hand in hand with this sentiment:

Shadowcactus wrote:

I can’t figure out why Lumintop would be making so many of these boneheaded changes so late in the development. The changes to the clip are honestly just terrible looking and nonsensical. I also can’t figure out why there’s so many apologists bootlicking Lumintop in the thread.

Even if it’s someone from the forums (TK, tatasal, etc) that keeps up on it and gives the TLDR and relays feedback – the rep from Lumintop doesn’t need to actually read the thread nor post, just a bit of a once-a-week catch-up.

I agree oweban, team member updates are fine. They do a great job.

But many of them are having to fight for updates, sometimes with very little or no result for their efforts. That has to be extremely frustrating for them, as well as the time they must waste for the effort. Then only to find something out by way of a FaceBook post someone quotes here on BLF.
That sux.

I was just thinking an update ever couple of weeks from “one” (the same) factory person would take some of the load from team members. And would probably ease the minds of many members too.

Of course any specific updates would still come from team members. But somehow they would be / should be given them in a timely manner. They should not have to fight & beg for answers or find things out from a third party. They should be kept informed.

All that I have written is probably just a pipe dream…. but in a perfect world, it would be nice.

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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant