​Tuesday night Nephilim theorist L. A. Marzulli broadcast the latest edition of his Acceleration Radio show, and among his rightwing political commentary he paused to discuss the Great Circle Earthworks, one of the Newark Earthworks in Newark, Ohio. The earthworks are believed to have been built by the Hopewell culture in the early centuries CE. The Great Circle Earthworks are the largest of the Hopewell constructions, spanning nearly 1,200 feet in diameter and including an 8- to 13-foot-deep moat inside an earthen wall that ranges up to fourteen feet in height. At the center of the circle is the so-called Eagle Mound, where archaeologists found the remains of a wooden structure in the 1920s.

​However, Marzulli doubts all of this and instead believes that the mounds were constructed shortly after Noah’s Flood by the surviving Nephilim. His argument is essentially that Native Americans weren’t smart enough to heap dirt in big piles, or to observe the stars to align said piles with the sky:

Native Americans didn’t have iron tools. They had flint. They had sticks, birchbark baskets, deer skin—I get that. And modern-day archaeologists insist that the circle mound was built one birchbark basket at a time or they used dogsleds and hauled the dirt. So they’re scratching the dirt with sticks and putting them (sic) in birchbark baskets. You go there, folks, you go to the Great Circle Mound in Newark, Ohio, and you tell me if that holds water in your mind, ’cause it can’t. It doesn’t work. It just doesn’t work. And there are other mounds—some of them have been destroyed—in the complex, and of course all this led to the Octagon Mound, at least a mile away from the Great Circle Mound. This was a very complex ceremonial site. Little—there’s been some archaeological work done on it, but certainly not exhaustive. And if I had the money to donate to it, the first thing I would do would be to say, “Look, let’s restore this site to what it looked like. Let’s bring all the trees out. Let’s tear all the trees out and make it so Raccoon Creek flows back in and we can get the moat working.” That’s what I would do. That’s what I would do. And also perhaps build the sacrificial altar on top of what is known as the Eagle Mound in the center of the circle. So, it’s very enigmatic. I would call this Post-Flood and also Nephilim architecture, Fallen Angel technology. Why? Because I don’t believe it was built by Native Americans. I really don’t. I don’t believe the site was built by Native Americans. In fact, it’s on the record that Native Americans didn’t—it was there when they got there. […] With all due respect to Native Americans, they didn’t build edifices like this. […] I have a theory that supernatural forces were at work.

​Marzulli added that Joseph Riverwind, the Native American Nephilim / ancient astronaut believer, confirmed that the mound was built by Nephilim, and Marzulli said that Native Americans were incapable of building with compacted dirt that doesn’t erode over time, and he argued that the mounds are preserved by demonic magic.

Frankly, none of the implicit racism of Marzulli’s claims is shocking, but what is surprising is that he is openly advocating for restoring what his own faith tells him is a Satanic altar! Apparently his excitement about the superpowers of the Nephilim has overwhelmed his puritanical religious impulses.

Why is there a bottle labeled "Jingos" on the table during the whole show?

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Shane Sullivan

6/1/2017 11:22:47 am

Perhaps to let people know that, in addition to being a racist, he's also a nationalist.

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Kyle Riveras

7/27/2017 07:02:09 am

L.A. Marzulli is a guillible moron. But according to the dictionary definition of racism, he's not a racist. Plus he's a civic nationalist which might be chauvinistic, but is about as racist as communism.

mike

6/1/2017 11:03:55 am

Joseph Riverwind is not American Indian and is in fact a fraud.

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Fawkes

6/1/2017 11:50:34 am

Jingoism - extreme warlike patriotism, or a household cleaner that advertises on this idiots show.

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E.P. Grondine

6/1/2017 12:02:48 pm

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1897.0

You have the confused, and then you have the seriously confused.

There was no "hopewell" nation or people.
Here in Ohio, there were Shawnee and Cherokee ancestors.

The Great Ring, like the smaller ring at the golf club, was built for whoever was portraying Whitehawk (not an eagle) to teach the night sky at the fall bread dance.

It's really that just that simple.

The ring was rebuilt by the Civilian Conservation Corps in the 1930's.

As far as the "Nephilim" go, they were half a world away.

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Americanegro

6/1/2017 12:13:33 pm

No, no they really weren't.

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E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 08:55:48 am

Hi AN -

To which "they" are you referring?

V

6/1/2017 03:02:12 pm

Nice racism here, Grondine. Complete erasure of a known cultural group with tons of evidence for it, that's full-sale stuff, man.

Um, no one said there was a Hopewell people, rather a " Hopewell Culture". The name was coined by an archaeologist named Warren Moorehead in the 1890's. Moorehead studied the Hopewell Mound Group at that time. The Hopewell family were the owners of the property at the time and since no one knows what the people called themselves , the name was coined. While undoubtably some of their descendants became the Shawnee and Cherokee, they also in all probability formed and became part of many tribes.

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E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 08:04:28 am

Therein lies the rub, Scott, and its how Marzuli's kind of nonsense comes about. Its cultural genocide following on physical genocide, all with a "scientific" basis, in order to make the current generation
somehow less than their ancestors or white people, but especially to steal the land.

E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 09:13:20 am

"since no one knows what the people called themselves"

You may not know what they called themselves, and you may not with to know what they called themselves, but I can at lest come up with a rough approximation, though the phonology is non-Indo-European and naturally the laws of phonectic change apply.

In other words, I can speak about the members of the Ohio Hopewell tribal confederacy the same way that British archaeologists speak about Anglo-Saxons.

Americanegro

6/2/2017 10:30:40 am

I suspect that you speak about a great many things. Aside from the fact that we have a pretty good idea of how Anglo-Saxon was pronounced because it has been taught without evolution for centuries, in addition to contemporaneous written records, I suspect we can safely edit "In other words, I can speak about the members of the Ohio Hopewell tribal confederacy the same way that British archaeologists speak about Anglo-Saxons" to add "without any significant archaeological training, knowledge, or credentials".

"Because there are people who study apples all their lives, I can speak about oranges, despite never having eaten one."

Sorry, I started to lapse into writing like my Joe Scales persona there. Dammit!

E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 10:52:15 am

"I suspect that you speak about a great many things."

Just a few. topic, AN. Large hyper velocity impacts and Native American memories of them is among those topics. Also, scientific incompetents.

How governments are handling the impact hazard.

Also, the "fringe" and theosophist cult archaeology.

"Aside from the fact that we have a pretty good idea of how Anglo-Saxon was pronounced because it has been taught without evolution for centuries, in addition to contemporaneous written records, I suspect we can safely edit "In other words, I can speak about the members of the Ohio Hopewell tribal confederacy the same way that British archaeologists speak about Anglo-Saxons" to add "without any significant archaeological training, knowledge, or credentials"

I have had a lifelong interest in archaeology, and have met a number of good archaeologists, as well a some not so good archaeologists.I have a pretty good knowledge of site locations,
and have excavated a little on an avocational basis.

But I depend upon professionals for my work, and cite them entirely. I do not make up data, and readily admit to any errors I may make. I do not have any problem working with oral traditions, and have developed a pretty advanced apparat for working with them.

I can sink to your level if I have to, IA.
In fact I can sink even lower.

To review my c.v., my brother in law was an Egyptologist trained at the Oriental Institute, so my introduction to archaeology came when I was 8 years old, under excellent tutelage.I pretty much devoured all the archaeology stories in my school's National Geographics. There were major Native American sites nearby.

I have completed 2 surveys in SW Scotland (and I am very pleased with the work being done there now), with one visit to examine features of Minoan sites on Crete. In the past I wrote computer programs examining the phonetic loading of the Linear A script system.

I also wrote a summary of the Founding Fathers investigations into Native Medicines, which appeared on the front page of the Outlook section of the Washington Post (some 14 million readers).

There were 12 tips between the Mississippi River and the East Coast, with visit down to the county library level, to write "Man and Impact in the Americas", along with the use of the University of Virginia's materials and those of the Library of Congress.

Since then, and since my stroke, I have helped to save two major Native American sites, along with very significant artifacts.

It also appears that many people are unaware of the Eastern peoples logographic writing.

By the way, I am also the person who first noticed the production of fast neutrons in larger hyper-velocity impacts, which has major consequences for carbon 14 date calibration.

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Geo

6/2/2017 04:22:29 pm

I'm always a bit leery of people who feel the need to tell you how wonderful they are. NTTAWWT

Americanegro

6/2/2017 05:23:23 pm

"My brother-in-law was an Egyptologist" IS NOT PART OF YOUR MF'ING CS'ING C.V.!

"Oh, my military background? Well that's easy, my grandfather was in WWII". SAME THING.

So it boils down to, unlike anyone on the planet you read National Geographic.

And then you WENT TO THE LIBRARY???!!!! Well, then you are a researcher without peer.

Neither Google nor the Washington Post website provide any hits for an article written by or mentioning you. The ball is in your court to provide a link.

Still doesn't seem like the North-of-Mexico Indians were big on writing, but no doubt your grandmother was a stenographer.

E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 05:41:10 pm

He provided me with pretty good introduction to archaeology, IA
That was at age 8.
Here is my Washington Post article, which has significant bearing on the physician patient relationship and orgnal intent:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/07/17/monticello-mellow/4db4c762-9892-4d05-b12e-8769151892a9/

In other words, the federal legislative branch and certainly no state has a right to arbitrarily intrude on the physician-patient relationship: they can not practice medicine without a license.

As far as discussing native american writing with you here,
a wise man once advised not to thrown your pearls to swine.

E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 05:47:03 pm

GEO -

The occurrence of recent large asteroid and comet impacts is a highly controversial field, with ad hominem attacks commonly used. by those who can't handle the data.

Americanegro

6/3/2017 12:37:32 pm

To be brutally honest, that was an interesting and well written article.

E.P. Grondine

6/4/2017 10:54:12 am

"To be brutally honest, that was an interesting and well written article."

thank you ,AN. Now let me share the story of a young man who got a really raw deal in life. About three weeks after his first serious girlfriend left him, he discovered a lump on one his testicles, The doctors biopsied it and it turned out to be cancer. They had an experimental medical marijuana program at Stanford, which helped him through chemo and radiation. But the cancer finally metastasized to his spinal column, and he died in agony, with his doctors unable to treat him with the British formulation of their Brompton Cocktail.

Since I finallly managed to get that piece published 10's of thousands of your fellow citizens have needlessly suffered and their doctors have not been able to use the best tools available to aid them in their health struggles. I failed, and it is a sinking feeling.

I now write about asteroid and comet impacts, and given the number of lives at stake, I can not walk away from it. It may make no sense to you why I am doing what I am doing, but it makes great sense to me.

Now if you'd like to add an apology to your compliment, that would be nice.

Americanegro

6/4/2017 12:30:45 pm

Apology??? Fuck you, in the nicest possible way.

Joe Scales

6/4/2017 12:37:00 pm

Back to IA then...

E.P. Grondine

6/6/2017 09:13:32 am

Hi IA -

As far as my mother, grandmother, and great grandmother go,
Ms Keeely has been using her contacts with Ms Pemberton through the missing women's project to slander some really good people . In sum, Ms Keeley and her brother have been turned down for casino licenses in both Oklahoma and Kansas, and many members of the Loyal Shawnee are completely fed up with their leadership and that of Mr. Barnes, as are the leaders of the other Shawnee remnants.

In the future, remember that you started this

.

Americanegro

6/6/2017 04:54:14 pm

"As far as my mother, grandmother, and great grandmother go,
Ms Keeely has been using her contacts with Ms Pemberton through the missing women's project to slander some really good people . In sum, Ms Keeley and her brother have been turned down for casino licenses in both Oklahoma and Kansas, and many members of the Loyal Shawnee are completely fed up with their leadership and that of Mr. Barnes, as are the leaders of the other Shawnee remnants.

In the future, remember that you started this"

Wow, you totally don't sound like a mental patient.

Seriously, did you read that before you posted it? Run it by a caregiver maybe?

Bob Jase

6/1/2017 12:34:55 pm

Only Rigellians pile up dirt like that.

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BigNick

6/1/2017 12:37:21 pm

Another man with hands as soft as a baby's ass deciding what humans can and can't do with simple tools and physical labor.

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Jim

6/1/2017 12:38:30 pm

Yikes ! He thinks diverting a creek into and flooding a site made out of dirt would be a good idea ?

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DR HALSEY

6/1/2017 12:52:15 pm

I have to wonder why these batch of Nephilim would pretty much just stack dirt to make their structures when their brethren around the world were making megalithic structures. Guess these guys didn't get the same memo?

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Jim

6/1/2017 12:54:45 pm

They were probably high on Jingos !

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Jesse

6/3/2017 01:41:34 am

oh my god... best comment ever!

Paul S.

6/1/2017 12:59:45 pm

I think that lots of people seriously underestimate what can be done with simple tools and technology as long as there is sufficient muscle power and patience and some practical ingenuity that are all combined in one place. Using stone tools and baskets, Native Americans cleared large areas of forest for cultivation, so I see no reason why they can't have built large, well-designed mounds once there was a complex society wi large numbers of people living close together.

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V

6/1/2017 03:13:27 pm

Yeah, no kidding; modern people don't seem to grasp that all of our complicated devices literally can be boiled down to the same six simple machines of physics in varying combinations. You can do almost anything with simple tools and more people that you can with modern machinery.

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BigNick

6/1/2017 03:24:46 pm

Its not modern people, it's people who don't get their hands dirty. White collar thinking about a blue collar problem.

Uncle Ron

6/1/2017 04:41:27 pm

Over at Andy White's site there is a series of posts about his recent archaeological field school - basically people "scratching the dirt with sticks and putting < it > in birchbark baskets" (more or less). They were able to create some impressive holes in the ground. Imagine what they could have accomplished if they hadn't stopped every quarter of an inch to photograph and plot what they found.

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E.P. Grondine

6/2/2017 03:44:04 pm

Hi UR -

Andy is pretty sure that his site's lamellae are from flood deposits, and not baskets of dirt.

Americanegro

6/3/2017 09:57:25 am

Is your Indian name "Misses Point"?

Only Me

6/1/2017 02:16:11 pm

Thanks to Marzulli, I learned that every child that has sat on a beach, armed with a little plastic shovel and pail, was incapable of piling wet sand into a crude facsimile of a castle. The same applies to the moat around that castle. Such complex feats of engineering are only possible through the Nephilim.

Coincidentally, I have also learned Marzulli has only one brain cell, and it is fighting for dominance.

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Clint Knapp

6/1/2017 11:22:52 pm

On the plus side: it's not fighting for space and oxygen and has grown to Nephilim size.

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Shane Sullivan

6/2/2017 12:23:12 pm

"Coincidentally, I have also learned Marzulli has only one brain cell, and it is fighting for dominance."

Here's how I picture that playing out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_qkhGCQF9w

...but with a brain cell instead of a horse.

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David Bradbury

6/1/2017 02:20:17 pm

"They had sticks, birchbark baskets, deer skin"
If they had deer skin, they also had deer antlers, and deer shoulder-blades. They presumably also had shoulder-blades and horns from bison. That's some pretty handy digging technology.

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V

6/1/2017 03:21:51 pm

Don't underestimate the power of a dirt-spear, also known as a "digging stick." A good digging stick is about an inch to an inch and a half in diameter, sharpened on one end, and fire-hardened at the tip, in my experience. It's a short heavy spear, essentially. And that's only the most basic model, used when traipsing through the woods looking for shit to collect. It being a nice simple lever, with a wedge carved on the front for added prying capability, you can actually be REALLY efficient with one of those bad boys.

You want real heavy labor, field-plowing and construction model digging sticks, you get what basically amount to young trees with crooks carved in to put your foot on for greater leverage, that are longer than you are tall. You can loosen up a LOT of dirt very easily that way, and somebody else comes along behind you and scoops it into nice big baskets to cart off.

Hey, wait! Isn't that exactly how jackhammers and bulldozers work together? *GASP AND SHOCK*

Point being, so to speak, that shovels aren't necessarily inherently superior for the task of gathering dirt, depending on available manpower.

...oh, yeah, and you can make a very effective cast for a broken bone from birchbark, so they weren't weak and flimsy little baskets we're talking about, here. Just to add that point in, not to dig at you, David Bradbury.

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David Bradbury

6/1/2017 03:42:18 pm

I think you may have grasped the wrong end of the stick there ...

Tank

6/2/2017 02:55:52 pm

I think it is possible that some earthworks were made by people that wanted others to believe that other eastern cultures had visited North America long ago. There are in fact some faith based movements that espouse this. This would only include a few examples. Almost all of them were constructed by Native Americans. There are too many examples of settlers and other groups intentionally leaving false narratives and cultural material behind to support their views. Newark is a perfect example with the "mithraic" figurine found in a burial there. It would not be difficult for later people to construct a portion of an already existing Native site to suit their views.

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Jason Colavito

6/2/2017 10:24:23 pm

I am a left wing nutjob. Go Hillary!

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Fred Jones

6/5/2017 02:50:42 am

*rips off cheap rubber mask*

It was Old Man Henshaw all along, pretending to be Jason in order to scare people away, so he could buy the old amusement park to build a carpark!

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Albert Macias

6/2/2017 10:28:36 pm

I went Emerald Mound in Mississippi. Very Impressive. There are alot of similar mounds all over Mississippi.
Even more impressive is Cahokia.
All built by indians. Got alot of respect for indians and the buildings they made.

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David Bradbury

6/5/2017 03:38:03 am

I went to my garden. There are a lot of mounds all over it. All built by moles. Got a lot of respect for moles.

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