You as an atheist have already heard most of the explanations to believe
I'm just asking, what do you have to lose?

@coup

I'm not saying to join any religion. But believe in a creator.
Imo the true way is through nirvana, that is kind of atheistic but I still believe in a creator. And no, Buddha is no sun god, buddha is the teacher, such as jesus and muhammed. And if these so called false religions are indeed from Satan, Why do the key teachings encourage being kind to others.

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Because spiritual laws like sowing and reaping are tangable laws that cant really be denied
and they work for the sinner the same way as they work for the saints

The Church teaches that human suffering is the path to salvation in the next world (whatever you want to call it), where "theists' souls" experience the undying eternal bliss. For me, it is irrefutable proof that "god" doesn't exist.

You're never making a believer out of me.

Please leave AMG out of this. Daimler AG group has nothing to do with religion.

Atheist beliefs: If it's true = Nothing If it's false = Eternal Hell
Faithful beliefs : If it's true = Paradise If It's false = Nothing
What do you guys have to lose by just believing in a god?

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To me, if there is no God, there is no hell. This statement then becomes redundant. I truly don't believe in either.

It's not about having something to lose by believing, I just haven't been given enough to go on TO believe. Unwavering proof. If it is one day presented, then so be it. Until then, I'll carry on in my happy, Athiest world, thank you very much.

The Church teaches that human suffering is the path to salvation in the next world (whatever you want to call it), where "theists' souls" experience the undying eternal bliss. For me, it is irrefutable proof that "god" doesn't exist.

because it seems to me most atheists do not believe in a creator due to
the thought of having to join a religion to believe in one.
I mean, you havent even answered my question.

It seems to me being an atheist is a life of depression. Not necessarily a big sad life, but at the end it's the sadness knowing there will be nothing more, and everything you love is gone forever.

But believing in a creator and he will reincarnate you so that you can one day be reunited with your loved ones is a more happier ending, would you say?

Unless you are depressed, that is.

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Wrong. Even when I did believe, I was against all religions. The garbage that is both believed in and practiced turned my stomach, and I would not attend church, let alone join a religion.

When I 'came out' as an Athiest, many friends (some who have since ended the friendship because of it...piss on them) began asking 'what happened?', 'what's wrong?' etc.. Why does something have to be wrong for me to have switched beliefs? It makes me laugh. As for sadness in the end, I'll be dead, who cares. I also question the possibility of being reunited with loved ones etc. My happiness is in my living; watching my son grow, being there for loved ones, enjoying my passions etc.. That's all I need. In my ending, I will have experienced happiness. That's enough for me.

first, you're assuming that if god exists he is necessarily wrathful and jealous like the god of the bible. you're assuming he'll send people to hell for disbelieving in him. needless to say, this assumption is completely baseless. there could be some sort of deistic god (a 'supreme architect' that crafted the conditions before the big bang) or even some variation of pantheism (nature is god) without any concept of heaven or hell.

next, you're assuming that if a heaven and hell does exist along with god, that so long as you believe in some form of god he'll let you in to paradise. no religion i've ever encountered teaches this doctrine. if you don't get the right religion/god you go to hell.

finally, you're assuming that there's nothing to lose in being fundamentally wrong about the nature of reality. this might seem reasonable when you limit your view to one individual; dying after living a life believing in a false religion might seem petty in the grand scheme of things. but if you think about our species as a whole, and how religious and philosophical ideas permeate it, getting something this big wrong is nothing to gamble away. it's easy to detach yourself from this dilemma on the individual level, but if everyone lived by that philosophy there'd be no mechanism for the species to challenge false ideas so long as those ideas were laced with threats for those who disbelieve.

besides, as memento pointed out, some of us actually care about what's true and what's not.