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To Mike - yeah, I think that turn worked in my head, but once we got it built, it looked much more difficult, soI think I will move the second section over a foot or two to make it more friendly. Yes, the township will be doingthe running event again, but the last I heard is that it will take place in September this year (spring was too muddy)We have been lucky that this spring has been so dry and as a result, the trail is too !!

To Frank - the Buckshaver section is a right turn off of the South loop (Whitetail trail) and then returns to it soon.So, when you enter the South loop right off of the parking lot, just past the little bridge, look for a large tree onthe right and look way up that tree and you will see the sign. You can ride it either direction, but counter clockwiseseems to be a little easier flow wise. When you are about halfway into it, look for where the trail splits and go straight ahead (look for the old tire) and that is the newer extention to the original loop. Ride it because it needsmore traffic to make it as smooth as the older Buckshaver section. BTW, it is named after my Fat Chance bikethat I ride that quite often.

We had a good group ride last night, Mike R., Nick, James and Randy joined me for some trail riding fun.

SC

I love mountain biking because I haven't found anything that is more FUN !!Of all the paths you choose in life....make sure some of them are DIRT !!

Commuting miles in 2012 = 1065Total road/trail miles = 2800Number of rides = 152Trails ridden = 28 different in MI, 2 in Oregon

Someone has been removing trail features on the Buckshaver and East loop. They pulled 3 root/logs out of the trail and managed to "dumb down" some of the technical aspects of those sections.Apparently people out here think that this is their own private trail to alter at their discretion. Seriously though, if the trail is too difficult for you, go ride the gravel path or I-275 paved path, please don't go out and remove all the trail features that you don't like. The trail design utilizes all the roots, logs, ramps, and tight twists and turns due to the lack of elevation changes. Ripping out the trail features can essentially make the trail boring, relatively flat, and not such a fun little trail. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM UNAUTHORIZED TRAIL ALTERATIONS!!! If you want to help or would like to ask to change something, chime in on this forum. SANTA _CRUZ is the trail coordinator and is authorized by the township to build and maintain the single track trails. He is always happy to answer questions and explain things....super nice guy.

I think you're preaching to the choir, mate. The people who make these alterations likely aren't on this forum, otherwise they would already know better, and would probably be a more experienced rider, and not want to remove the features.

Last edited by ryanmcg on June 12th, 2012, 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

James and Mike, if you see stuff like this (I noticed the one downed log missing on the Buckshaver trail) please seeif it is just thrown off to the side of the trail and replace it/them. Like Ryan mentioned, unfortunately, the idiots moving this stuff most likely don't frequent this forum nor do they have the skills to get over said obstacles, so they figure that they will make it easier on themselves by screwing the more skilled riders. It's something that happens at every trail and it's hard to ever catch these people in the act. It just makes me want to build even more tech features and maybe these people will go to another "easier" trail.

I love mountain biking because I haven't found anything that is more FUN !!Of all the paths you choose in life....make sure some of them are DIRT !!

Commuting miles in 2012 = 1065Total road/trail miles = 2800Number of rides = 152Trails ridden = 28 different in MI, 2 in Oregon

I'll keep an eye out for them as well. I seen a pack of 3 guys on huffy's Sunday around 11am. One of them form the crushed trail seen me in the single track and said "lets go find that trail" It's almost always guys on Huffy's LOL JK