Yes, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler actually seems to believe this is an important issue, or at least important enough to pander to the right wing crackpots who think the President lies about everything and anything.

Today the White House released a photo to prove that yes, President Obama really has done skeet shooting at Camp David, and how pathetic is it that this is even necessary at all?

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Would you believe this still isn’t good enough for Glenn Kessler?

UPDATE, Feb. 2: The White House released this photograph of the president at the Camp David skeet range on Aug. 4, 2010. We are pleased the White House has become more forthcoming about this matter, though it does not quite answer the questions concerning the president’s ‘all the time’ language. What do readers think?

Good grief.

By the way, ace fact checker Glenn Kessler got the date of the photo wrong in his post. The caption at the White House Flickr page:

For example, Obama is attempting to grab more power for The State and criminals by way of gun control laws that infringe on our Second Amendment civil rights. In order to make his case, Obama is attempting to appear reasonable on the issue of guns, and one way he did this was to reassure Americans that he too is a sport shooter, and enjoys skeet shooting at Camp David.

Now, to those familiar with Obama’s record of opposing guns at every turn and lying about almost everything, that struck us as odd.

Today, however, the White House released a photo that purports to show Obama (love that tucked-in shirt) shooting skeet last August. Except… he’s shooting straight ahead, which means that there’s either a barn door somewhere in need of some patching, or Obama is such an awesome skeet shooter, he hits them as they come out of the firing device.

I keed, I keed. There are legitimate reasons that would explain the angle of his gun, but….

Because the photo is odd, some are asking perfectly legitimate questions.

But not the media.

Ladies and gentlemen, the conservative movement in all its sad, batshit insane glory.

Can we call them “Skeeters” now?

UPDATE at 2/2/13 11:58:48 am

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

UPDATE: As one might expect, there is a vast partisan divide on this, with some readers upset that we did not immediately change our ruling because the president released a photo, as we had requested in our original post. We try not to make snap judgements, but readers argued we had moved the goal posts. So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

There is a book by a black man about that is pro-gun, it’s called “Black Man With a Gun.” The author talks about the racists roots of gun-control and why is is a 2nd amendment proponent.

He describes the fear induced by the title of his book. Growing-up in Detroit in the 70’s I totally support his thoughts. I understand completely. It’s irrational, but there it is. I had to force myself to face those fears.

Now, we see it on a National Level like we never have before. And it is totally irrational and very few want to face it within themselves.

This was a time in my life when I figured-out how much of society is designed around a “fear of slave revolt.” How much we are conditioned to accept control and justify control over others.

(I actually posted this on the previous thread, but it’s more relevant here.)

It’s interesting that the paranoid false flag meme was already in existence at the time of the 1976 NRA coup:

Winkler writes that (extremist leader) Carter’s top deputy Neal Knox was even more extreme than him—wanting to roll back all existing gun laws, including bans on machine guns and saying the federal government had killed Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy as “part of a plot to advance gun control.”

The evidence suggests that until Obama had access to a shooting range as president, he never went skeet shooting. He certainly did not speak like a politician who had once used a firearm.

But it is also curious that the White House refuses to provide any documentary evidence that he actually used the shooting range at Camp David, since he claims he uses it “all the time,” or that a presidential friend has not come forward to confirm the president’s comments.

We live in suspicious times and the president lives in a media fishbowl. That’s the way it is. In the meantime, we do not have enough information to make a ruling one way or the other. We are eager to see a photograph, or hear from someone who saw him at the skeet range, to put this matter to rest.

Glenn, You ignorantly wrote> “He certainly did not speak like a politician who had once used a firearm.” WTF is wrong with you Glenn? How does a politician who has once used a firearm speak? Do they grab their nuts and say “yeah, I humped by AR15 last night right before I nailed that coyote” WTF is wrong with you.

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

One of my favorite moments in “To Kill a Mockingbird” is when Atticus puts down the rabid dog with a single shot from a rifle at range. His son, who has apparently always felt his dad was just not “manly” enough, learns in this moment what a true gentleman is. It is NOT that his father is a dead shot that impresses him. It’s that his father feels no need to show it off. It shows him that being a man isn’t about being a loudmouth with a big gun.

Based on satellite photos of Camp David and my own extremely limited skeet experience, I’m gonna guess Obama’s taking his first shot from station 6 in that pic, with the photographer standing against the wall behind him.

Based on satellite photos of Camp David and my own extremely limited skeet experience, I’m gonna guess Obama’s taking his first shot from station 6 in that pic, with the photographer standing against the wall behind him.

I wonder if he hit?

Well, if he is good at sports, he probably has pretty good eye/hand co-ordination.

It’s exposing insanity, but it’s making the insane increasingly delusional in the process. It makes any serious discourse impossible with the very low character limit, instead enabling idiots to spout soundbites to show how loyal they are to the party. Twitter really is pretty icky.

wadwizard
11:42 AM CST
I’m calling BS on the photo alleged to be of Obama shooting skeet. I see a number of problems:
(1) He’s shooting too low (unless he’s actually shooting trap, not skeet) (2) He’s holding the shotgun improperly. If he shoots a 12 gauge like that, high and on the tip of his shoulder, it would cripple his shoulder. (3) Shotgun shells are loaded with smokeless powder and don’t produce the smoke shown. Black powder might, but no one loads modern trap load shells with black powder. Also, a blank might produce that amount of visible smoke. (4) The smoke that appears to be coming out of the top of the top barrel through the “porting” is only coming out of one side. The porting on the other side is clearly seen to be producing no smoke. (5) The gun is firing but there is no recoil (“kick”) evident. A 12 gauge trap gun has considerably more recoil than many common hard-kicking high-powered rifles. (6) With this crowd, believe nothing,

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

Anders Golding of Denmark competes during the Men’s Skeet Shooting qualification round on Day 4 of the London 2012 Olympic Games at The Royal Artillery Barracks on July 31, 2012 in London, England.
[Link: www.zimbio.com…]

The amazing thing about that Cheney incident is that the guy who got shot in the face actually apologized to Cheney.

Because his face was in the way or something.

I remember seeing that and thinking gosh way to make all the jokes about Cheney being Darth Vader look correct dude. I mean I remember the apology. It wasn’t just “I’m sorry” it was “I’m sorry for any discomfort I may have caused the vice president and his family.” Dude you were shot in face. And then there were the stupid right wing bumper stickers “I’d rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than driving with Ted Kennedy.”

Imagine the sheer energy it must take to argue every trivial little thing like it was The Most Important Thing Ever. It amazes me, it really does.

Obama said there were 57 states. Man what a retard! Point out that Republican office holders repeatedly refer to Russia as the Soviet Union and the last two Republican nominees more than once referred to “Czechoslovakia”, then you’re just asking “gotcha questions” and how dare you question them.

pandemic
11:42 AM on February 2, 2013
There are so many errors in this photo shopped picture it’s ridiculous.
Anyone that has shot skeet knows what I’m talking about.

martasur
11:40 AM on February 2, 2013
firstly, i’d like a panned view to see if he hit his target (this ia a lateral shot where as any skeet shooter will follow the mid trajectory and shoot on decent as opposed to “head high”.
secondly, the timing of this is mindboggleing…

Armed_Texan
12:39 PM on February 2, 2013
The White House has issued “orders” that the picture cannot be manipulated or used in any way without their permission. Excuse me, but if this was taken on government property with a government photographer, they have zero authority to tell anyone what they can’t do with it. Typical overreaching from King Barry and his Court of liberal fools.

hightemp
1:14 PM on February 2, 2013
Never trust a left handed president. On top of that what the hell kind of shotgun puts out a blast on the side foot away from the end of the barrel. That’s a flash ,keep it from pulling up compensation device, which he banned,with the stoke of his pen and nothing else.. What a hypocrite.

Do these people really have anything better to do than bitch about this? Oh and lol at never trust a left handed president. Every president since Reagan except W Bush has been a lefty so get used to us buddy, we’re taking over.

Great, now they are dissing left-handed people.
What have I ever done to them?
/Woe is me

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

The group endorsed Barack Obama for president in 2008 after announcing that he would be attending a skeet shoot sponsored by them in Colorado. However AHSA head Ray Schoenke stated Obama did not attend the event. Schoenke said AHSA was intended to bridge the gap between urban liberals and rural gun owners and did many events in support of Obama, but had to close down due to a lack of support for its goals by the Obama adiministration.[3]

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

Lefties represent!

I’m left handed, my two parents are left handed and my two best buddies are left handed.

I’ve always been fond of “We were all born right handed but only some of us learned how to overcome us”.

My 7-year-old came home one day really upset that she was left-handed. She was moaning about being the only left-handed person at school and at home and she wanted to learn how to be right-handed like everyone else. I mentioned that Barack Obama is left-handed. Her face lit up and she now thinks it’s cool to be left-handed.

There’s a lot of good company to be had. [Link: www.indiana.edu…]
I got a Warren Spahn jersey t-shirt for Christmas simply because Spahn is the most winningest left handed pitcher of all time and the fact he was great to my Dad when my Dad waited on him and signed a photo for me.

I did everything lefty as a kid but hit a baseball. For some reason like Rickey Henderson I was a righty hitter but lefty thrower. The other way around is more common- lefty hitter but righty thrower due to the advantage of being a lefty hitter. Wish I had hit lefty from the start. Today I mostly hit lefty but I will switch to the right if I fall behind in the count. I was playing softball as a ringer last summer. Had my first at bat lefty and got a hit but i fell behind on the second count so I switched to righty and the catcher was like “What the hell is this?” Ended up grounding out but I got a RBI. I always used to drive my kid brother nuts by claiming that us lefties are going to take over the world. But then he went and read that we die younger. Whatever, I’m happy to be in the same club as POTUS, Ben Franklin, Jimi Hendrix, and my two grandfathers.

After being most severely mocked throughout the Interwebs, Glenn Kessler has updated his post again. Apparently, he’s now satisfied that President Obama was not telling heinous lies.

UPDATE: As one might expect, there is a vast partisan divide on this, with some readers upset that we did not immediately change our ruling because the president released a photo, as we had requested in our original post. We try not to make snap judgements, but readers argued we had moved the goal posts. So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

A “Gepetto Checkmark” for the president. I’m sure he’ll cherish it always.

I sat next to a left handed person in my high school biology class. We switched seats so that our elbows would not hit each other.

In the high school orchestra, I sat next to a leftie violinist. Unless we were turned just right, with most every upstroke our bows clattered together. Once during a concert they actually got locked together - pulled my bow right out of my hand and it flew into the air, sending me scrambling to retrieve it. We were in pain trying not to lose it with laughter. It made it even harder watching the conductor fighting not to laugh as well.

What the fresh freaking hell is a Geppetto Checkmark?
It’s not like there’s anything of actual importance this fuck biscuit could be fact checking. If I did any job this badly I’d be fired before the end of the workday. An elementary school kid could do a better job.

I always liked that Garfield factoid. Writing Latin with his right and Greek with his left. I believe I also read he spoke fluent German. He’s obviously not well remembered since his time in office was very short but James Garfield was a very smart guy. Makes me wonder what his presidency could have been life if he hadn’t been assassinated. Anyhow the bit about Truman and Reagan writing right handed leads me to believe they were forced to switch by a parent or teacher at an early age. I know that’s what my grandmother tried doing to my uncle.

Handedness is fascinating. You can tell on ultrasound what will be a baby’s dominant hand by which thumb is being sucked.

I was so disappointed that my youngest brother ended up being a righty. Seems like my family’s good for one lefty a generation since both my grandfathers were, one uncle on each side were. A funny coincidence since both uncles were named after both of their fathers. So I guess that means to ensure a left handed son, I need to name him after me! Nah, not really, just a funny coincidence since both my grandfathers also married women who were older than them.

I understand why fact checking exists and appreciate it but damn it whatever happened to taking someone at his word and just moving on. POTUS saying I shoot skeet doesn’t need to be made into a fucking circus.

In the high school orchestra, I sat next to a leftie violinist. Unless we were turned just right, with most every upstroke our bows clattered together. Once during a concert they actually got locked together - pulled my bow right out of my hand and it flew into the air, sending me scrambling to retrieve it. We were in pain trying not to lose it with laughter. It made it even harder watching the conductor fighting not to laugh as well.

I’m right handed, myself. However, when I play an electric guitar, I play left-handed - but when I play a bass guitar, it’s right-handed. I wonder if has to do with my first musical instrument being the piano.

I understand why fact checking exists and appreciate it but damn it whatever happened to taking someone at his word and just moving on. POTUS saying I shoot skeet doesn’t need to be made into a fucking circus.

You can also be right or left eared, right or left footed, right or left eyed. The dominant side doesn’t have the same for all of these My daughter who is very left handed, usually kicks a soccer ball with her right foot.

“In an effort to dissuade fears that President Obama intends to take all guns away from Americans, the White House today released a photo of POTUS shooting clay pigeons at Camp David.”
[Link: www.globalpost.com…]

You can also be right or left eared, right or left footed, right or left eyed. The dominant side doesn’t have the same for all of these My daughter who is very left handed, usually kicks a soccer ball with her right foot.

I usually hit a soccer ball with my left eye. Then I hit the ground with my middle nose.

A little more than a week after Senate Democrats decided not to weaken the filibuster, Republicans are vowing to filibuster President Barack Obama’s nominee to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau unless its powers are reduced, Reuters reports.

And you just watch, the next time there’s a Republican president and the Democrats threaten to filibuster once. McConnell or whoever the GOP has in charge by then will threaten to bring the Nuclear Option out.

And you just watch, the next time there’s a Republican president and the Democrats threaten to filibuster once. McConnell or whoever the GOP has in charge by then will threaten to bring the Nuclear Option out.

“But we didn’t use the nuclear option because you said it would set a bad precedent!”
“It did, namely it allowed us to stall you into uselessness, ensuring our return to the majority. Now pipe down, we got us some court benches to pack.”

Inheritance for handed is also very interesting. It is a little more complicated than this, but it seems to follow the same pattern as Rh factor. If you inherit a gene for right handedness, you are right handed. If there is no gene present, you have a 50-50 chance going either way.

Inheritance for handed is also very interesting. It is a little more complicated than this, but it seems to follow the same pattern as Rh factor. If you inherit a gene for right handedness, you are right handed. If there is no gene present, you have a 50-50 chance going either way.

That makes sense. Lefties do seem to run in families. As I said, both my grandfathers were and they each had one child who was. My dad’s brother is the only lefty out of the six in their family but 50/50 as you said- akin to flipping a coin and getting heads 5 times and getting tails 1 time doesn’t mean it’s not 50/50. I do wonder what the chances would be if you had two left handed parents.

A group of conservatives is launching their own social networking site after enduring what they call years of censorship and liberal bullying on Facebook.
The Tea Party Community is expected to officially launch on Saturday – but the social networking site for conservatives has already drawn nearly 50,000 members.
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Their only way out is to integrate with sane communities and moderate their bizarre views. Instead they’ll continue to form insular communities that tolerate no reality at all, and continue to get worse until they’ve destroyed any potential they may have had.

Ever notice how every time the right finds something to complain about when it comes to Obama that they do it in a very reasonable, logical manner, devoid of any references to his race, religion, and that it never gets personal?

Yeah, me neither. For fuck’s sake, I think this one beats the Mao Christmas ornament on the Christmas tree in the White House. Dumbfucks.

The first time I fired a shotgun in my life, I hit the clay pigeon I was aiming at. I don’t actually like guns much, but as someone who apparently has enough talent to kill a clay pigeon flying away from me, he looks like he knows what he’s doing.

OT but somewhat relevant, in the previous article someone posted a link to about a Chiappa firearms three barreled shotgun. I clicked the link and it seems that in my neck of the woods, Chiappa handles sales through a third party company. I went to that company’s website and immediately noticed something peculiar about all the pictured employees…

One of my favorite moments in “To Kill a Mockingbird” is when Atticus puts down the rabid dog with a single shot from a rifle at range. His son, who has apparently always felt his dad was just not “manly” enough, learns in this moment what a true gentleman is. It is NOT that his father is a dead shot that impresses him. It’s that his father feels no need to show it off. It shows him that being a man isn’t about being a loudmouth with a big gun.

I always liked that Garfield factoid. Writing Latin with his right and Greek with his left. I believe I also read he spoke fluent German. He’s obviously not well remembered since his time in office was very short but James Garfield was a very smart guy. Makes me wonder what his presidency could have been life if he hadn’t been assassinated. Anyhow the bit about Truman and Reagan writing right handed leads me to believe they were forced to switch by a parent or teacher at an early age. I know that’s what my grandmother tried doing to my uncle.

Wouldn’t writing right-handed be favored when using ink since it would keep the hand away from was was just written (to the left and line above) and reduce the chance of smearing the ink before it dried?