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Willing To Move Ahead

Now, there is a particular post here that kinda annoyed me a little. not affected me, but annoyed me.
I wrote a pretty awesome comeback about 5 paragraphs long, but then my internet cut off. I don't know if it submitted or not.
But generally, it got me thinking - even if this guys' a fraud; where do you want to place yourself when it comes to the importance scale?
You base your reality on things only you know, relatively/in the past, etc, we've heard this one before..... But maybe, we could all learn from even a "shallow" post....

I often struggle, but that word is coloured with more than one meaning.... Often there is far more of an internal fight than an external one - maybe you need to word it right, the obstacles you have to really fight, are the ones in yourself, the only other true obstacle is death.... This isn't just about me so don't worry, and you can put this in off topic all you like, as I believe that this is pretty much in context.

I don't know the whole world's situation, and that isn't some defensive cop out, it's just true - so, I'm guessing there are a few situations you cannot, physically free yourself from.... But I often think, without pretending to understand those who are in extreme danger or near death, just so it can make me feel humbled and worth living my easy little existence - what have I got to complain about?
Not 'what have I got to complain about, those people are suffering - i feel humbled' but, REALLY what have I got to complain about???

I know some of the psychological, or psycho-somatic reasons for not moving on, in a way I'd like, some of it's hardwired in me, I still live, and i am grateful for the smaller things, but then, I know the reasons I cannot move on the way I want, and some other people who live in a westernized society feel the same but how much are we really responsible for ourselves?
I don't think there really is a complete right and wrong here, but I fight everyday and moan a little, as well as almost giving the statements away, and I do change, to an extent - but do you know what really prevents anything? Fear; if I am afriad, even if there is no real danger, I cannot really see beyond that fear unless I test it and myself, but then have you too, found that there are some situations where you run in circles.....

For example if you dont trust people, you will remain alone (basic example) to some extent inside, you may begin to feel more alone because now, you cannot reach out to the very things you fear, so you isolate yourself, but this makes you feel more lonely, but as time goes on, you trust people even less and even begin to get paranoid; to get out of this you must return, just as the american indians have said, to the beginning of the circle, and this original point here, is people - but if you reach out to one, and they damage you, you are back to the 'other' circle, where you are alone again....

That is one example of stuckness - it's a general one, but it'll do...... But that post really made me think. there are things I want to do, and I fight to get there, but then I feel, am I fighting enough? But who are you fighting for in the end?
If you have a family, and kids, and love, what more do you need? yet some people need a lot more, but we often get what we want, get bored of it, then feel down again when we have no clear goal in sight..... This is the disease of the human being and self concept - I go over these things because they affect me, my inconsistency makes me question stuff, not because I am "deep" but because it is, at the moment, the best solution I have even though it's not the absolute best....

How do you want to move on?

it's not an easy thing to answer is it....

Ok, here's an exercise, what are the obstacles that are preventing you from moving on? If it's that, you feel you cannot reveal them because of fear of other people and lack of trust, this too, just like I find for myself - is an obstacle....

But maybe life isn't as clear cut as that, you know - what do we really want?
What actually made the world so sad? So hostile? Depressed?

whether you agree with religion or not, I guarantee if you practice to avoid the 7 sins, youll be happy.

that gentleman was envious others, and envy is a sin. when you live your life by another persons standards, its no longer your life. he cant be content, because hes dependent on others. whether to be better then them, or for them to be better then him and accept him.

you made the comment, 'if you dont trust people, you will remain alone'. pride is a sin. you build trust by needing. if you feel that you need nothing from others, youll get nothing from them.

If you have a family, and kids, and love, what more do you need?
Greed is a sin. if you give what you have to give, youll be given what you need to have. no need to search or want.

life is all about getting what want and need at every corner.... energy feeds off energy, it is the eternal law of nature and all things..... You take in food, the same way as you take in love, air, and the rest of it..... If you do not trust people you will be bitter and alone, and apparently self pity is also a sin, but I believe virtue just means that you believe you are better than other people by living in some kind of abstinence or another - it's a form of self abuse to avoid things which are natural to human beings, but all self abuse is just a defense mechanism, which in turn is also a form of &quot;self love&quot; - and you could say, that that much vanity is equally a sin.......

You cannot give without recieving something in return, even if it's a sense of self flattery, you are gaining something in the end. Nobody is altruistic, dying for somebody is still the selfish gene - it tells you that the race will still carry on without you, but carries some of your genes. Your genes put themselves before &quot;you&quot;, as you in essence as you believe it to be.....
What else is there in life but human relationships? Life is confusing, and it twists and turns, but if you go on just a few flimsy rules you will not feel or realise your full potential or emotions with which to experience texture with....

this I am trying myself....

I don't care if it's a long post - that was an empty statement. if someone is willing to read it, they will.

Sometimes you give and get a lot more than you actually consciously realise - everyday we influence each others behaviour, it's so natural we don't realise we are manipulating a situation, even if it's to get a sandwhich..... we are fundamentally, self serving and selfish..... You just don't see it..... Getting a ticket into heaven by doing your bit is also selfish, if there was no promise of heaven, and there was no true hell, and you got to this other place which was eternal, but offered nothing, not even a conference with god - you've just wasted all your virtue..... THEN you will see what you really are inside.

Poor, I read you loud and clear. To accept there are &quot;seven sins&quot; is to, in fact, accept a certain religious aspect. If I don't believe, then how can I say there are seven sins? Who decides these seven sins?

i dont know how to explain it anymore. umm... if you do the definition of greed, and you call it a different word like 'fishsticks' youre still going to be miserable, because youre doing something psychologically upsetting. doesnt matter what you call it, those things are bad. its like fire... doesnt matter who found it or what its called. if you catch yourself on fire, it hurts.

Hahahaha, I will let the dumbing down asshole tone your using not bother me, and say this: I know WHAT they are, I am saying WHO considers then seven DEADLY sins? Who decided THESE PARTICULAR SINS are the DEADLIEST?

on the contrary, some people live off &quot;sins&quot;, and turn it around into pleasure.... There is sadism, and there is mass greed everywhere, but some of the people at the very top are perfectly happy living in denial, for the most part - either the happiest of people are ignorant or in denial.... Those most at peace are more accepting that things don't last forever, but intimacy is still important..... maybe you do need to give them different names, and perhaps then, with a different perception, their function or meaning will be different.

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