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Iím going to suggest Psychonauts, Grim Fandango and Bastion as analogous to sort Pixar stuff. I could happily watch someone else play them and enjoy the design and dialogue and characters and narrative as I would a film.

I'm actively watching an LA Noire Let's Play at the moment and it's more enjoyable than the game.

I take it you've never seen There Will Be Blood? Aguirre? Mulholland Drive? 2001: A Space Odyssey? Il Comformista? Metropolis? Any movie worth a shit? Those are not discrete concepts.

Haven't seen Aguirre or Comformista, no. In any case, the movies you've listed that I have watched are examples of cinema as an art form, not "clever jump cut technique of stick figures in scenes copied from popular cartoon/tv/movie titles".
It's clever, but not substantial enough to be "cinematic".

I'm just defining it as games that seem to use the most techniques borrowed from cinema--in terms of how they do lighting, camera work, scene-setting, etc--instead of developing their own techniques that are more "game-like" for achieving similar effects. Additionally (and probably more importantly), I looking for games that "feel" cinematic. That capture the sensation of watching a film in some way.

It's pretty squishy and flexible the way I'm thinking about it. As such I think this:

It's clever, but not substantial enough to be "cinematic".

... is unnecessarily rigorous for the purposes of this thread. But that's just me.

Because I can't not make an argument when one presents itself, even if we were being more rigorous I'd disagree with the quoted post for other reasons.

In any case, the movies you've listed that I have watched are examples of cinema as an art form, not "clever jump cut technique of stick figures in scenes copied from popular cartoon/tv/movie titles".

Other than the stick figures, that section in quotes doesn't describe something that is un-cinematic. And even so, animated films certainly exist ... so even that's part of the comment is a bit suspect. Looking at how much acting goes into 30 Flights might be a more interesting place to start dissecting how cinematic 30 Flights is. But as I haven't played it I probably shouldn't be part of that discussion.

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