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Sex guide author 'is no better than a pimp'

THE founder of the Swindon Feminist Network has criticised a controversial new directory of the town’s sex workers.

The McCoy’s Guide to Adult Services in South West England plus South Wales is the latest title from George McCoy, who has written at least 11 similar books and gives a rating out of five for each service, including costs and the occasional photograph.

The book includes listings for 21 working girls, three dominatrixes and a massage parlour in the town and police have said they want to see the publication in case they can glean any intelligence of illegal activity from its contents.

Albertine Davies, founder of the Swindon Feminist Network and secretary for the National Association of Probation Workers in Swindon, blasted McCoy for effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers.

“Whatever anyone says, no one chooses to go into sex work,” she said. “People sometimes say that it is the woman’s choice and that should be respected and everything is ok, but it’s not. Many people are driven to it out of desperation in the circumstances they are in. So called ‘high-class’ escorts who earn a lot of money are exceptionally rare.

“I’ve read that many people who end up in that line of work are also victims of childhood abuse. It’s also a tragic result of our benefits system that people are driven to sell themselves in order to earn some money.

“It also has great ramifications for the rest of society, since people who are willing to buy sex are de-valuing people to the value of consumable goods.

“Anybody who makes money out of something like this is no better than a pimp.”

Wiltshire Police have been made aware of the book and have requested to see a copy before deciding if they can take any action.

A spokesman for the force said: “The issue of prostitution in Wiltshire is not disproportionate to other force areas of a similar size. “Wiltshire Police have robust policies and procedures in place and adopt a multi-agency approach towards tackling this particular issue with a number of future schemes currently being considered in conjunction with partner agencies and local hotels.”

In the book’s introduction, McCoy, a widower from Staffordshire, writes: “Where a lady is recommended, I can either personally vouch for her ability or have had numerous reports as to how well the lady performs. “Where it is simply indicated that she is of note, I have only had the odd report on her skills. “Where credit is due – for facilities, cleanliness, value, choice, quality, etc, it is duly given. Where there is clearly room for improvement, we say so. In every case, our purpose remains the same – we intend to provide an objective, honest and accurate appraisal of every person or establishment providing adult services in South West England and South Wales.

“In doing so, we hope to raise the standards of a flourishing industry, which – at its best – offers a valuable and pleasurable service to thousands of men and women every day throughout the country.”

Despite the success of his guides, which are mainly marketed at men, McCoy has no plans to write any guides specifically for women. He also said he does not believe the guides prey on vulnerable women involved in the sex industry and said many emulated call girls like the famous Belle de Jour, who funded her PhD by working as a prostitute.

He said: “Most of the people who are opposed to the sex industry and sex work are feminist lesbians with a holier-than-thou prudish attitude towards the industry. I don’t deal with street prostitutes. The ladies I include are well-respected for their unique services and private venues and they all are in a job they want to be in and enjoy.

“For many it’s far more preferable to working at a check-out in a supermarket, for example. They can earn more, they can choose their own hours which also means that it’s easier to arrange childcare. It’s much easier to work evenings and arrange for a friend to look after the children than it is doing a day job.”

Ebony, described as ‘busty, black and in her 40s’, is one of the ladies featured. She said she did not need the guide to market herself. “I do quite well out of sex work and I don’t need to advertise myself anywhere else,” she said.

[quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote:
*grabs popcorn*[/p][/quote]Pulls up a chair next to benzss with nacho's and pepsi... :-)scottwichall

benzss wrote…

*grabs popcorn*

Pulls up a chair next to benzss with nacho's and pepsi... :-)

Score: 5

MrAngry
1:03pm Mon 23 Jun 14

I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?

I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?MrAngry

I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?

Score: 24

house on the hill
8:31am Tue 24 Jun 14

MrAngry wrote…

I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?

Clearly the answer to that is yes which comes as no surprise to many.

Agree with other posters, if you don't like something then don't read it, watch it, do it, etc Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it wrong, it just makes it something you choose not to like. Get on with your own life and allow others to get on with theirs.

[quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote:
I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?[/p][/quote]Clearly the answer to that is yes which comes as no surprise to many.
Agree with other posters, if you don't like something then don't read it, watch it, do it, etc Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it wrong, it just makes it something you choose not to like. Get on with your own life and allow others to get on with theirs.house on the hill

MrAngry wrote…

I find it laughable that the police are going to buy a copy of this book for research purposes. Do they really have so little idea what goes on in this town?

Clearly the answer to that is yes which comes as no surprise to many.

Agree with other posters, if you don't like something then don't read it, watch it, do it, etc Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it wrong, it just makes it something you choose not to like. Get on with your own life and allow others to get on with theirs.

Score: 4

The Real Librarian
1:21pm Mon 23 Jun 14

I take it Albertine has never heard of "Punternet" either

Fortunately for Mr McCoy, neither have his customers, given that they have listings for 61 women in Swindon

You can follow them on twitter if that is your sort of thing.

I take it Albertine has never heard of "Punternet" either
Fortunately for Mr McCoy, neither have his customers, given that they have listings for 61 women in Swindon
You can follow them on twitter if that is your sort of thing.The Real Librarian

I take it Albertine has never heard of "Punternet" either

Fortunately for Mr McCoy, neither have his customers, given that they have listings for 61 women in Swindon

You can follow them on twitter if that is your sort of thing.

Score: 14

Alex English
1:08pm Mon 23 Jun 14

It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?

It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?Alex English

It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?

Score: 40

The Real Librarian
1:18pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Alex English wrote…

It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?

'Albertine ' from the Middle English meaning "actually wanted a boy really!"

See also;
Nigella
Olivia

[quote][p][bold]Alex English[/bold] wrote:
It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?[/p][/quote]'Albertine ' from the Middle English meaning "actually wanted a boy really!"
See also;
Nigella
OliviaThe Real Librarian

Alex English wrote…

It seems Albertine has effectively marketed a book she claims is effectively marketing the work of the town’s sex workers. Who would have even known the book existed were it not for her moaning about it in this article?

'Albertine ' from the Middle English meaning "actually wanted a boy really!"

See also;
Nigella
Olivia

Score: 17

jfmorty
3:33pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Ha ha ha ha! Love it!

The best article in the Adver ever. EVER. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

This is the real McCoy

PS It is normal for book reviews to say who the publisher is and where we can buy a copy.

Ha ha ha ha! Love it!
The best article in the Adver ever. EVER. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
This is the real McCoy
PS It is normal for book reviews to say who the publisher is and where we can buy a copy.jfmorty

Ha ha ha ha! Love it!

The best article in the Adver ever. EVER. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

This is the real McCoy

PS It is normal for book reviews to say who the publisher is and where we can buy a copy.

Score: 12

GalaxyMan
7:49pm Mon 23 Jun 14

No ironing to do today then sweetheart?

No ironing to do today then sweetheart?GalaxyMan

No ironing to do today then sweetheart?

Score: 18

beach1e
7:56pm Mon 23 Jun 14

noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .

noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .beach1e

noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .

Score: 5

Antonio Lorusso
8:57pm Mon 23 Jun 14

"“It also has great ramifications for the rest of society, since people who are willing to buy sex are de-valuing people to the value of consumable goods."

Look in the mirror, you'll see the reflection of someone that does exactly the same every time you pay someone to do something for you, by your own logic.

"“It also has great ramifications for the rest of society, since people who are willing to buy sex are de-valuing people to the value of consumable goods."
Look in the mirror, you'll see the reflection of someone that does exactly the same every time you pay someone to do something for you, by your own logic.Antonio Lorusso

"“It also has great ramifications for the rest of society, since people who are willing to buy sex are de-valuing people to the value of consumable goods."

Look in the mirror, you'll see the reflection of someone that does exactly the same every time you pay someone to do something for you, by your own logic.

Score: 9

Antonio Lorusso
8:50pm Mon 23 Jun 14

By her logic any job which people wouldn't ordinarily choose if you didn't have to and doesn't make you rich is bad. this describes most jobs done by people because they want to eat and most jobs don't make people rich but i don't see the feminists (apart from the marxists which is what this really is) campaign against all work.

You don't see feminists calling restraunt guides "pimps" or calling bosses or employment agencies "pimps". Pimp is just a scare word used to portray normal behaviour in sinister terms.

By her logic any job which people wouldn't ordinarily choose if you didn't have to and doesn't make you rich is bad. this describes most jobs done by people because they want to eat and most jobs don't make people rich but i don't see the feminists (apart from the marxists which is what this really is) campaign against all work.
You don't see feminists calling restraunt guides "pimps" or calling bosses or employment agencies "pimps". Pimp is just a scare word used to portray normal behaviour in sinister terms.Antonio Lorusso

By her logic any job which people wouldn't ordinarily choose if you didn't have to and doesn't make you rich is bad. this describes most jobs done by people because they want to eat and most jobs don't make people rich but i don't see the feminists (apart from the marxists which is what this really is) campaign against all work.

You don't see feminists calling restraunt guides "pimps" or calling bosses or employment agencies "pimps". Pimp is just a scare word used to portray normal behaviour in sinister terms.

noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .

Sex workers are no different than other self employed workers, some pay the taxes on their incomes some don't.

[quote][p][bold]beach1e[/bold] wrote:
noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .[/p][/quote]Sex workers are no different than other self employed workers, some pay the taxes on their incomes some don't.Antonio Lorusso

beach1e wrote…

noone is forced to sell themselves because benefits are so bad. there are real jobs out there, but people that choose to not hold down a proper job because they want to claim benefits and earn tax free money are in charge of their own destiny...not sure why money is wasted on sex workers, they pay nothing into the system .

Sex workers are no different than other self employed workers, some pay the taxes on their incomes some don't.

Possibly because the book's author said all that needs to be said on the matter:

[quote]
“Most of the people who are opposed to the sex industry and sex work are feminist lesbians with a holier-than-thou prudish attitude towards the industry."
[/quote]

[quote][p][bold]scottwichall[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Antonio Lorusso[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]scottwichall[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote:
*grabs popcorn*[/p][/quote]Pulls up a chair next to benzss with nacho's and pepsi... :-)[/p][/quote]This subject does tend to invoke strong reaction, doesn't it? Hopefully we've been "entertaining" enough for you. ;-)[/p][/quote]Mildly disappointed if the truth be known :-([/p][/quote]Possibly because the book's author said all that needs to be said on the matter:
[quote]
“Most of the people who are opposed to the sex industry and sex work are feminist lesbians with a holier-than-thou prudish attitude towards the industry."
[/quote]Alex English

Possibly because the book's author said all that needs to be said on the matter:

[quote]
“Most of the people who are opposed to the sex industry and sex work are feminist lesbians with a holier-than-thou prudish attitude towards the industry."
[/quote]

Score: 5

Lindylou1991
7:17am Tue 24 Jun 14

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.Lindylou1991

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

If I needed to find a plumber or electrician I would do my best to ensure that I offered the work to a good one. I don't need a prostitute but if I did I would want to locate a good one ! An official guide would probably be helpful !

[quote][p][bold]Lindylou1991[/bold] wrote:
I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.[/p][/quote]If I needed to find a plumber or electrician I would do my best to ensure that I offered the work to a good one. I don't need a prostitute but if I did I would want to locate a good one ! An official guide would probably be helpful !umpcah

Lindylou1991 wrote…

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

If I needed to find a plumber or electrician I would do my best to ensure that I offered the work to a good one. I don't need a prostitute but if I did I would want to locate a good one ! An official guide would probably be helpful !

Score: 7

Chrisg46
12:11pm Tue 24 Jun 14

just posted on another story related to this - If the adver does not want to advertise such a publication, then maybe they shouldnt name it? Referring to it as "A Guide to Escorts" or similar would make it far more difficult to track down...

just posted on another story related to this - If the adver does not want to advertise such a publication, then maybe they shouldnt name it? Referring to it as "A Guide to Escorts" or similar would make it far more difficult to track down...Chrisg46

just posted on another story related to this - If the adver does not want to advertise such a publication, then maybe they shouldnt name it? Referring to it as "A Guide to Escorts" or similar would make it far more difficult to track down...

Score: 2

MrAngry
9:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Lindylou1991 wrote…

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

Prostitution is legal in the UK. It is not illegal to pay for sex or to receive money for providing sex, but soliciting, kerb-crawling, pimping and keeping a brothel are illegal.

I suspect the most of the girls walking the streets are drug addicts, but there are dozens of ordinary women working from their homes quite legally. Some do it full time and others are students, nurses, teachers or bored housewives by day and earn a few extra quid on the side. Many of them used to advertise their services in the classified section of the Swindon Advertiser, but I think the paper has now clamped down on this.

[quote][p][bold]Lindylou1991[/bold] wrote:
I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.[/p][/quote]Prostitution is legal in the UK. It is not illegal to pay for sex or to receive money for providing sex, but soliciting, kerb-crawling, pimping and keeping a brothel are illegal.
I suspect the most of the girls walking the streets are drug addicts, but there are dozens of ordinary women working from their homes quite legally. Some do it full time and others are students, nurses, teachers or bored housewives by day and earn a few extra quid on the side. Many of them used to advertise their services in the classified section of the Swindon Advertiser, but I think the paper has now clamped down on this.MrAngry

Lindylou1991 wrote…

I am not a prostitute and neither do I know one, but in my personal opinion it should be totally legal because this would make the job a whole lot safer if it was. People that sell themselves for money are no different to someone who sells there skills as ie. a cleaner etc. At the end of the day there is always a reason behind a woman becoming a prostitute be it lack of money or just liking sex. I do not see the problem in it. Besides in this day and age how hard is it to find these people without a book I'm almost garenteeing it's not that hard.

Prostitution is legal in the UK. It is not illegal to pay for sex or to receive money for providing sex, but soliciting, kerb-crawling, pimping and keeping a brothel are illegal.

I suspect the most of the girls walking the streets are drug addicts, but there are dozens of ordinary women working from their homes quite legally. Some do it full time and others are students, nurses, teachers or bored housewives by day and earn a few extra quid on the side. Many of them used to advertise their services in the classified section of the Swindon Advertiser, but I think the paper has now clamped down on this.

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