This is why this thread is moronic and this website is becoming unbearable.

ET has not proven himself to be anywhere near the playmaker Ed Reed has.

AND

Ed Reed WAS NOT a member of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens!!!!!!!!!

Every one of you who read this comparative OP and then voted should have your .NET membership revoked and be castrated.

Do not read this unless you want to be moronic!!

Is there a chance that our team is cursed to be the next 2000 Baltimore Ravens? Not that being a league champ is something to be sad about, but are we just not bound to be an offensive team for the foreseeable future? I see a lot of similarities between our team and the Ravens.

Trent Dilfer-Russell Wilson. It hurts to type that, but in my opinion, you either have a high caliber quarterback or one similar to the rest. I know that once he gets out of the rookie funk, he will be among our best Qb's in our history. Basically I do not need to say what has already been said about Wilson. That aside, I love him.

Trent Dilfer Y/PA= 6.6Russell Wilson Y/PA =7.0

Dilfer (Old) Passer Rating=76.6Wilson (Old) Passer Rating=79.5

Dilfer Int %= 4.9%Wilson Int %= 4.0%

Yards per gameDilfer=136.5Wilson=175.7 (mostly due to Pats game)

Ray Lewis-Bobby Wagner

Ed Reed-Earl Thomas

Jamie Sharper-Kj Wright

Chris Mcallister-Richard Sherman

I will add more comparative stats later.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my comparisons, but I was looking through similar past teams, and I feel this is so far, our closest match.

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now in all fairness can we really compare wagner to lewis? The Thomas to reed comparison is spot on. also, keep in mind, ALOT has changed in 12 years. the game is not played the same way, so having the same style might be good, might be bad. IMO our defense has not been trumped by anyone yet we have played 2 of the top 4 offenses in the league. all we need is mediocrity by our offense, which was something the 2000 ravens achieved by the end.

KitsapHawk wrote:Is there a chance that our team is cursed to be the next 2000 Baltimore Ravens? Not that being a league champ is something to be sad about, but are we just not bound to be an offensive team for the foreseeable future? I see a lot of similarities between our team and the Ravens.

Ed Reed-Earl Thomas

This is why this thread is moronic and this website is becoming unbearable.

ET has not proven himself to be anywhere near the playmaker Ed Reed has.

AND

Ed Reed WAS NOT a member of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens!!!!!!!!!

Every one of you who read this comparative OP and then voted should have your .NET membership revoked and be castrated.

"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

KitsapHawk wrote:Is there a chance that our team is cursed to be the next 2000 Baltimore Ravens? Not that being a league champ is something to be sad about, but are we just not bound to be an offensive team for the foreseeable future? I see a lot of similarities between our team and the Ravens.

Ed Reed-Earl Thomas

This is why this thread is moronic and this website is becoming unbearable.

ET has not proven himself to be anywhere near the playmaker Ed Reed has.

AND

Ed Reed WAS NOT a member of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens!!!!!!!!!

Every one of you who read this comparative OP and then voted should have your .NET membership revoked and be castrated.

Dude... Chill out. The forum is unbearable because of this? Stop being so sensitive. People calling out other members for things they don't like or agree with is what makes this site unbearable. I also love irony and hypocrisy.

The Seahawks have one of the better defenses in the NFL this season. That Baltimore Ravens team had either the first or second best defense in the HISTORY OF THE NFL. Not in the same ballpark, country, planet or solar system.

Tical21 wrote:The Seahawks have one of the better defenses in the NFL this season. That Baltimore Ravens team had either the first or second best defense in the HISTORY OF THE NFL. Not in the same ballpark, country, planet or solar system.

Different era, hard to compare, you sure listen to ESPN talking heads over-hyping the 2000 Ravens a lot.

Comparing degrees of "greatness" is not the same as comparing similarities between two teams. The 2000 Ravens could have been the greatest team ever to take the field and still be similar in style and makeup to a team that doesn't do nearly as well. Dismissing this is like ignoring the similar situations of college freshmen and high school freshmen simply because the college freshmen "know so much more than the high schoolers." They're both in similar circumstances, regardless of comparative abilities.

Regardless of individual player parings, there are similarities across the board, but more to the point, we're trying to do something very similar to what they did: break a rookie quarterback into the league and help him gain game experience, while relying on a superb defense and run game to win games for us.

"The ultimate number is W's, and that’s what matters in Santa Clara. As such, Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does." - Paul Gutierrez

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Comparing degrees of "greatness" is not the same as comparing similarities between two teams. The 2000 Ravens could have been the greatest team ever to take the field and still be similar in style and makeup to a team that doesn't do nearly as well. Dismissing this is like ignoring the similar situations of college freshmen and high school freshmen simply because the college freshmen "know so much more than the high schoolers." They're both in similar circumstances, regardless of comparative abilities.

Regardless of individual player parings, there are similarities across the board, but more to the point, we're trying to do something very similar to what they did: break a rookie quarterback into the league and help him gain game experience, while relying on a superb defense and run game to win games for us.

Good grief. Now Trent Dilfer was a rookie in 2000??

Who knew?

"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

Seahawk Sailor wrote:we're trying to do something very similar to what they did: break a rookie quarterback into the league and help him gain game experience, while relying on a superb defense and run game to win games for us.

So just going by stats, the Hawks D is not as good as the Raven's D, and the Hawks offense is quite a bit worse than the Ravens offense was. The Ravens also were rated higher in punt and kickoff return average and scoring and turnover differential.

Seahawk Sailor wrote:Comparing degrees of "greatness" is not the same as comparing similarities between two teams. The 2000 Ravens could have been the greatest team ever to take the field and still be similar in style and makeup to a team that doesn't do nearly as well. Dismissing this is like ignoring the similar situations of college freshmen and high school freshmen simply because the college freshmen "know so much more than the high schoolers." They're both in similar circumstances, regardless of comparative abilities.

Regardless of individual player parings, there are similarities across the board, but more to the point, we're trying to do something very similar to what they did: break a rookie quarterback into the league and help him gain game experience, while relying on a superb defense and run game to win games for us.

Good grief. Now Trent Dilfer was a rookie in 2000??

Who knew?

Eh, mixed them up with the 2008 Ravens, another similar club. In any case, the point remains, as do the similarities: still relying on a superb defense and run game to win the games, whether compensating for a rookie learning the ropes or an average quarterback that never quite learned them.

"The ultimate number is W's, and that’s what matters in Santa Clara. As such, Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does." - Paul Gutierrez

How many of the top 2 or 3 defenses each season really gets remembered. We have a great defense, a top 5 defense but that Ravens defense is remembered as one of the all time top defenses. Pretty big difference.

So just going by stats, the Hawks D is not as good as the Raven's D, and the Hawks offense is quite a bit worse than the Ravens offense was. The Ravens also were rated higher in punt and kickoff return average and scoring and turnover differential.

Moral of this story........not.............even................close.

If you objectively look at individual player stats that I posted, it is alot easier to see the similarities between the players.

I think a lot of people forget how good that Ravens defense was. Some of my fellow Niners fans were drinking that kool aid last year.

The Seahawks have a stellar defense this year. But it's not even close to being on the same level as the 2000 Ravens. I don't even mean that as an insult to the Seahawks either. I respect their D as one of the best in the league this year.

Honestly, I don't think our current defense is even as good as our '84 defense. That was a great defense.

49ers webzone: Win or lose, i hope you injure Sherman. Like a serious career ending injury. I don't want him to get paid.49ers webzone: noise should not be the overwhelming reason a team is favored. they need to spray noise-damping foam onto the ceiling of that place.

We aren't as veteran on D as that group was with Sam Adams and Tony Siragoosa (spell check ) but I think ET/Kam/Sherm if they play to their ceiling can be one of the best defensive backfields the league has seen in the last 20 years.