Student Groups at Christian-Identified University Seeking Softer Policies on Homosexuality

WAYNE, Pa. — Two student groups at a Christian-identified university in Pennsylvania are asking that the school soften its policies on homosexuality, including removing language in its student handbook that defines marriage as being between a man and a woman.

Members of Eastern University’s “gay-straight alliance” club known as Refuge, as well as its Political Activism Club (PAC), teamed up to host “LGBT Solidarity Week” on campus March 13-17. Prior to the event, the groups also sent correspondence to the university board to ask that changes be made to the student handbook in accordance with recommendations from the Human Sexuality Task Force.

“This movement would like to advocate for changes that it does not feel are controversial, so as to make Eastern a more inclusive place for LGBT+ students,” a post on the Oddysey website reads.

The groups have requested, among other changes, that the university remove “homosexual conduct” from its citations of prohibited “moral turpitude” in the faculty handbook.

“Gay people are just normal people with the same beliefs and career goals as everyone else. People should not have to choose between their career and who they love,” they wrote. “Second, it is important for LGBT students to have mentors who are familiar with their experiences. It’s hard to be out as an LGBT person in a Christian community, and it would be amazing for LGBT students to have professors who they could talk to about it.”

The students have also requested that the school remove language defining marriage as being between a man and a woman as they assert that it is not agreed upon among Christians.

“At this point in history, the interpretation of the biblical teachings that have to do with homosexuality is not universally agreed upon,” they contended. “While the traditional stance is probably more common, there are many biblical scholars, including Eastern’s own Tony Campolo, who support gay marriage.”

“For the university to take an official stance on the issue of homosexuality does not encourage open conversations about this issue, especially since the university does not take an official stance on other commonly disputed theological issues,” Refuge and PAC opined.

The students have likewise put forward that Eastern University should allow those who identify as “transgender” to choose whichever housing arrangement they prefer—male or female dorms—and that the policy manual should remove the phrase “the anatomical sex of the student” in regard to placement.

“[T]he university should continue moving in the direction of full inclusion of trans students by removing this phrase from the policy and continuing to work with students on a case-by-case basis to find a good living arrangement for every student,” they wrote.

Denise McMillan, the communications director for Eastern University, told the Christian Post in a statement that discussions about sexual matters have been underway with students for the past three years.

“In 2014 Eastern University’s president formed a task force to engage the community in a multi-year dialogue on issues related to human sexuality,” she said. “That discussion is ongoing …”

According to the Eastern University website, the American Baptist-affiliated school aims to take the “whole gospel to the whole world through whole persons.”

“We recognize the Bible, composed of the Old and New Testaments, as inspired of God and as the supreme and final authority in faith and life,” it states. “We submit ourselves to carrying out our mission under its authority and seek to apply biblical principles to all facets of human aspiration and action, including the centrality of personal transformation.”

Jesus said in Matthew 19:4-5, “Have ye not read that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they twain shall be one flesh?'”

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Robert

Christian schools including colleges I’m familiar with their codes of conduct would not have permitted confessing homosexuals on their campus in the first place.

Fang

You can call yourselves “Christians” all you like. If you can’t live by the New Testament, you are nothing but hypocrites. These little mush-heads have no right to lower God’s standards or speak on His behalf. A diluted gospel is no gospel at all.

Grace Kim Kwon

No Bible = No truth. Those who endorse homosexuality or transgenderism are not Christian.
“Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: ‘That You may be justified in Your words, and may overcome when You are judged.'” (Romans chapter 3) Homosexuality is not just itself sin but also leads to pedophilia and to other unthinkable chaotic abhorrent sins as it promotes sex with anything in existence; Christians must never yield to Satan’s lies. Sin is slavery. Endorsement of homosexuality means denial of sin’s existence. Mankind suffered under the Darwinian racist killers and militant atheists last century; this century, the villains are liberal-educated Sodomites. God’s truth prevails.

dan

Many foolish ones think electing Trump means this Nation is will turn to Jesus.That God has somehow slowed down judgement .Yet end times continue as normal.But the churches will continue it lukewarm ways ..The falling away .. .Note I voted for Trump has nothing to do with Trump but God is not mocked ,His word has not changed ……….

Grace Kim Kwon

Yes, agreed. I think this century’s Western culture’s root problem is liberal white people’s application of racial equality upon sexual sins. They and their young mental slaves must differenciate the skin colors and sexual sins. Unless this is rooted out, the Sodomic tyranny will never end. The Westerners are thoroughly trained to blindly submit to the rule of the laws even if the laws are immoral and murderous. The Western whites and their mental slaves need Biblical principles this century again to be humane and free.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

I’m so sick of seeing and hearing the regurgitated pablum “People should not have to choose between their career and who they love.” NOBODY truly believes that malarkey. Need I really list even a portion of the possibilities that those who say that would reject????

All that shows is the utter ignorance these imbecilic cretins display when they open their mouth without thinking.

“It’s hard to be out as an LGBT person in a Christian community”

As well it SHOULD be!! Society was a whole lot better off when it was understood that perversions didn’t deserve to be seen in the light of day. Back when shame was recognized for what it should be.

“At this point in history, the interpretation of the biblical teachings that have to do with homosexuality is not universally agreed upon”

Hey dipsticks, NEWSFLASH: The interpretation of the biblical teachings having to do with anything has never been universally agreed upon!! There has ALWAYS been false prophets, heretics, false teachers, and apostates who deny the Word of God and what it says.

“While the traditional stance is probably more common, there are many biblical scholars, including Eastern’s own Tony Campolo, who support gay marriage.”

Speaking of apostates.

““For the university to take an official stance on the issue of homosexuality does not encourage open conversations about this issue”

And therein lies one of the biggest problems with what’s going on today. Ya gotta bunch of snot-nosed KIDS who think they somehow are obligated to have a seat at the table. Who somehow think they have the “right” to have their OPINIONS given the same weight as 2000yrs of Orthodox teachings!

This is evidenced by the Mathew Vines’, Brandan Robertson’s, Justin Lee’s, Jory Micah’s, Rachel Held Evans, Vicki Beeching, and even folks like Carrie Underwood who think they’re theologians that can give a Biblical perspective that’s different than 2000yrs of Biblical teachings.

There was a time when kids were told to speak when spoken to. Look at that time and today and decide for yourself whether we’re better off today. I think not. And from the statistic I see coming out on the Millennials, the stats agree with me too.

dan

Many foolish ones think electing Trump means this Nation is will turn to Jesus.That God has somehow slowed down judgement .Yet end times continue as normal.But the churches will continue it lukewarm ways ..The falling away .. .Note I voted for Trump has nothing to do with Trump but God is not mocked ,His word has not changed .

Chris

“…His word has not changed.”

So when the bible says that the sun goes round the earth you believe it?

marg

The Bible does not say that actually. It is talking about how that is what the people THEN believed that. I feel kinda sorry for you that you are so blind to God that you can’t see what is infront of you.

Chris

“The Bible does not say that actually. It is talking about how that is what the people THEN believed that”

Ok. Then we can apply that to every single belief that the bible expounds. The bible would merely be talking about what people believed back then about creationism, or homosexuality, etc. I’m quite happy to go along with this explanation but I don’t know if you are.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Here’s what YOU can apply about the Bible:

When the spiritually dead try to read the Book of Life it’s like a blind man trying to read a road map before hopping in the car to drive. You have to get a heart transplant before you can have eyes to see.

Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.” (John 8:47)

“The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Cor. 2:14)

“There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.” (2nd Peter 3:16)

RWH

Nice justification for “I am right and everyone else is wrong.” This is one of the sure signs of a religious cult. It’s isolation from anyone else, a great fear of education, a refusal to consider other alternatives, an a caustic attitude on steroids.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

More false accusation and false witness from a son of disobedience and child of wrath. Thank you for continuing to publicly display your a goat and a Poser. Much appreciated.

Oh, and btw, thank you for the blessings too. Your little fiery darts from your daddy and earning me rewards and I appreciate that.

Not to mention that you’d side with a man who is saying the Bible isn’t the infallible, inerrant Word of God. THANK YOU!! I love it when the Posers completely discredit themselves so we don’t have to waste any time doing so.

RWH

Yup. A sure sign of a cult leader. This “prophetic vision” that I am right and everyone else is wrong. And if anyone challenges this arrogance, the other individual must be Satan’s spawn. I haven’t discredited myself. You have discredited yourself though your attitude. I see nothing pastoral for someone who exults himself spiritually above everyone else. I didn’t expect anything other from you than a diatribe and a vicious attack, and you certainly didn’t disappoint me. I’m just allowing you to show your true colors, sparks and smoke spewing in all directions as you turn into a whirling dervish about to implode at the nerve of someone who questions your heresies. We know exactly what you are. You’re just a little man who is too big for his britches, a budding Jim Jones and David Koresch. A little man who knows nothing but thinks he is God’s anointed.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Yup. A sure sign of a son of disobedience and child of wrath. 1st John 3.

Now c’mon back with some more blessings for me. Personal attacks and character assassination coupled with the ad hominem is all you have.

We got it. You’ve made it crystal clear.

“You have discredited yourself though your attitude.

There’s the Giant Sequoia Tree again. Or are you actually trying to walk around with one in each eye? LOL

“I see nothing pastoral…”

Wahl, surprise surprise surprise! It’s a wonder you can see anything at all with those Sequoia Trees sticking outta your eye socket!!

“I didn’t expect anything other from you than a diatribe and a vicious attack, and you certainly didn’t disappoint me.”

LOL. My goodness man, ya gotta whole forest stuck in that eye socket?

“I’m just allowing you to show your true colors, sparks and smoke spewing in all directions as you turn into a whirling dervish about to implode at the nerve of someone who questions your heresies. ”

This is getting literally comical now. Thank you for showing what delusion does. Utter hypocrisy to the umpteenth degree totally escapes you. LOL

But hey folks, THAT is a REALLY good lesson in what delusion does.

“We know exactly what you are. You’re just a little man who is too big for his britches, a budding Jim Jones and David Koresch. A little man who knows nothing but thinks he is God’s anointed.”

And YOU are gonna find out just how big a self-description that was one day.

Robert

Yes I do others in my denomination see this statement as God talking to man from his perspective as people of that day saw the sun go across the earth from Sun up to Sun down
So both ways still up hold what scripture says. Incidentally no one yet been able to set up a science exsperment and prove me wrong.all they so far have been able to say is so and so has proved it. In simple words there taking one’s second hand word on it.With out ever seeing any man made proof for them selves.

Chris

“Yes I do…”

Well you are consistent. And quite brave to admit such a belief. I salute you.

“Incidentally no one yet been able to set up a science experiment and prove me wrong.”

Incorrect. May I suggest something? Do a google search for ‘How do we know the Earth orbits the Sun?”

Royce E. Van Blaricome

That’s very true. Sadly, far too many people professing to be Christian trumpeted Trump as their Messiah who was gonna save the USA. That, in and of itself, showed what kingdom they belonged to.

Worse yet was far, far too many of them showed themselves to not be Christians at all but rather Posers by what came outta their mouth, the things they said and did that were – and still some are – completely contrary to Scripture, and the things they justified or tried to characterize as meaningless.

Charles

God gave most of America exactly what it deserved.. A fake Christian.

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Times change, we can’t go back to the past, adapt or spend your life moaning about how kids aren’t what they used to be.

Jason Todd

Pardon? Nobody is going to adapt to anything.

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Statistics say otherwise.

In Pew Research Center polling in 2001, Americans opposed same-sex marriage by a margin of 57% to 35%.

Since then, support for same-sex marriage has steadily grown. Based on polling in 2016, a majority of Americans (55%) support same-sex marriage, compared with 37% who oppose it.

Source: Survey conducted March 17-27, 2016.

Jason Todd

Surveys mean squat to me. It’s a well-known fact surveys can be manipulated to get any response you want depending on how the question(s) is posed.

Your response is therefore irrelevant.

Further, your prior comment implied a forced change of heart, something which is just that: forced. There is nothing sincere about it and thus not a change at all.

That’s not “adapting” to anything. All that poll reveals is the Truth that already existed.

God is allowing Society to put pressure on and squeeze people to reveal what is inside of them. God has already said there are MANY who hold to a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. God has already said that the vast majority of people are spiritually-dead and that includes those who profess to be Christian.

And God has already said that those who seek to save their life will lose it. So it should be no surprise that polls simply reflect People for being who they are.

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The poll shows that American attitude toward same sex marriage has changed. Fairly straightforward.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

So was my answer to the polls. You just keep following polls. Won’t be long before up is down and down is up. You people already can’t tell what a man and woman is. Already have parents trying to marry there children, brothers their sisters, adults and children. Even animals. There’ll be a poll showing folks adapting to that too and you can go right along with them.

Meh? I’m staying with the Truth.

Mr. David

Good post. As it was in the days of Noah. Many profess to be Christian but don’t “possess” Christianity and Christianity doesn’t possess them. These phony folks are in for a rude awakening on judgement day. What these homosexuals want will be granted to them. But after they get what they sought after, they will regret it just like those in the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Chet

Men can change their minds about anything. God will not as His Word abides forever…

Royce E. Van Blaricome

The only thing I’m adapting to is the image of Jesus Christ and becoming more like Him, thank you very much. And you’ve mistaken my observations and commentary for moaning about how kids aren’t what they used to be. If you had actually bothered to read what I wrote and pondered them for any length of time instead of jumping to false conclusions you’d have seen that my “bemoaning” was actually pointed toward a Society who allows kids to think they have a voice where they don’t.

But your comment was not all for naught as you did earn yourself another Plato Award. Congratulations!

“Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something” – Plato

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You just did and showed yourself a fool.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” (Psa. 14:1)

So who’s really the fool? But hey, ya won another Plato Award! Congrats!

“Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something” – Plato

RWH

He’s becoming more like Christ because he is building a Christ in his own image. This is what you get when you are anti-education and believe that all churches are corrupt. His very attitude gives him away.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Who is the “he” you refer to? Meh? If so, quite to the contrary. But thanks for continuing to show yourself for who you are. Just more false witness and false accusations for a goat.

RWH

Royce. Not to worry. You’re in a good group along with Mary Baker Eddy and Joseph Smith. Both Christian Science and the Mormons were formed by people with a similar theological mindset and idiosyncratic calling. Both believed that all the churches were false and that God called them to reject established churches and re-establish the true church. Both believed that that a good theological education–Bible colleges and seminary–was useless and counterproductive. And most of all, both believed appropriated this special Old-Testament prophetic anointing given to a select group of prophets but has been done away with now that we are in the New Covenant. Rather, this group is self-ordained since God asked them to be a Lone Ranger who has no need for others who have much more wisdom. This type of individual always is thin-skinned and gets defensive when challenged; they can’t cope with disagreement. As a result, they cherry-pick all sorts of Scriptural support for caustic behavior.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Oh, believe me, YOU are the last thing I’m worried about. But thanks for continuing to show yourself a son of disobedience and child of wrath.

I have NO clue as to what your incoherent ramblings are about now but anyone who wants to take the time to check it out can go look at my comments and they’ll find NOTHING about me saying any such things.

Just more attempts by another of Satan’s minions to puff himself up and falsely accuse and characterize a Believer.

“This type of individual always is thin-skinned and gets defensive when challenged; they can’t cope with disagreement. As a result, they cherry-pick all sorts of Scriptural support for caustic behavior.”

There’s that Giant Sequoia Tree again.

Reason2012

Adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

Homosexual behavior is most literally pointed out as a sin, and God has not changed on that regard. But if a person has those inclinations but does not act upon them, does not dwell in lust upon others, but is instead struggling against them to avoid them, then it’s not a sin. It’s just like sinful inclinations of any kind: it’s acting upon it when it becomes a sin.

And this is what God says about sin and specifically the behavior of homosexuality:

Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [s odomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, m urder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of S odom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be_raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows_rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

These two messengers were sent to destroy that place before the event where they tried to_rape these messengers.

Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination …”

Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a s odomite of the sons of Israel.”

1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the s odomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the s odomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the s odomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister S odom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband.

And only two people of opposite gender can become “one flesh”.

Live forever, people – not temporarily only to be cast out for living for the things of this world.

May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

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It doesn’t matter how much you rant, how many bible verses you quote, same sex marriage is legal and is here to stay. Get used to it.

Reason2012

I didn’t say anything about the laws. K illing your son/daughter if you couldn’t be bothered allowing him or her to live long enough to be adopted is also “legal”, but that doesn’t mean people will escape the judgment of God for that either. People need to think again – just giving them the information so they have a chance of a change of mind about such things before it’s too late.

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Killing people is not legal. Try it and you will be surprised.

Reason2012

Tell that to the 57 million human beings, sons and daughters, that were in the womb when they were slaughtered, with a million more each year.
Hitler knew k illing people was not legal either – so he convinced others the Jewish people were not people, then the genocide ensued there as well.

Evidently you’ve never heard of the Death Penalty. And I think, thanks to folks like you and your ilk, there is now legal “Mercy Killing”.

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Decent societies no longer have a death penalty. Here in Canada a person at the end of their life, in pain, having decided they want to go can get medical help to end their life.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Decent societies believe in Justice nor do they allow people to kill themselves. Thank you for pointing out that Canada falls short there. Of course, it’s to be expected when pastors are jailed for what is said from the pulpit.

And thank you for publicly displaying your idea of “decent”. It’s noted.

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Judicial murder is OK but to choose to end ones own life when in agony, is not.

Your pastor reference is beyond me.

RWH

People have been talking about pastors being jailed for the past fifty years, yet none have ever been jailed for things said in the pulpit. If so, Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist bunch from Topeka would have been put away long ago. If a pastor were jailed, these people would be screaming it from the rooftops for the next decade and beyond.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

I imagine there are a lot of things that are beyond you. Like, for one, you’re wasting your time here.

Jason Todd

It will never be legal in the eyes of God. Get used to it.

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God is just in your head.

Jason Todd

Feel free to say that when you stand before Him.

Bob Johnson

Your opinion, and worthless.
Men who prey on children are not worth listening to.

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Why do you think I prey on children?

Robert

Because you always walk n he flesh and not in the spirit.

Bob Johnson

Not me. This is a new “Bob Johnson”

Robert

And heart.

Robert

There is no such thing as same sex marriage all the government did was give perverts a licence and rights to benefits as if they were man and wife. The government could do the same thing for a cow and pig. If we christians take the time and think about it. What the government actually did.

Johndoe

It’s legal in all 50 states so that comment would be false. Doesn’t the bible frown on lying?

Robert

Peeing up a rope is legal in all 50 states to ,Yet it’s not smart has no “real value either “as far as God word is concerned.

dan

Many foolish ones think electing Trump means this Nation is will turn to Jesus.That God has somehow slowed down judgement .Yet end times continue as normal.But the churches will continue it lukewarm ways ..The falling away .. .Note I voted for Trump has nothing to do with Trump but God is not mocked ,His word has not changed .

Chris

Why are you repeating the same message over and over again? You’ve posted that same message three times.

Reason2012

Many confused people think allowing Hillary to win by burying our head in the sand would have been more effective instead of electing a president whose vice president looks to be a born again believer in God.

Meanwhile

2 Chronicles 7:14 “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

James 5:16 “.. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”

Royce E. Van Blaricome

There ya go again. Twisting Scripture just like Satan. It’s almost laughable that you continue to quote Scriptures that refute the very things you say!!

How is it that you don’t understand the simply truth that disobeying God is NOT “seeking His face” nor is it “turning from your wicked ways”? How is it that you do NOT understand the simple truth that there is a way that seems right unto a man and it leads to death? (Prov. 14:12) How is it that you don’t understand the simple instruction to “lean not on your own understanding but in ALL your ways acknowledge Him (that means FOLLOW) and He will direct your path”????

You can pray as fervently as you like but if you are disobeying God by supporting and endorsing Evil then you are NOT being righteous in doing so.

“Many confused people think allowing Hillary to win by burying our head in the sand would have been more effective instead of electing a president whose vice president looks to be a born again believer in God.”

THAT regurgitated pablum is nothing more than pragmatism. Simply trying to justify and rationalize your disobedient and rebellious behavior in being more a citizen of this kingdom than a Citizen of the Kingdom and living by faith.

Johndoe

What’s even more ridiculous is that every xtian on these forums think that only they are true xtians.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

You wanna tell us what a true Christian is? Doubtful ya know given you can’t even spell it. Congrats! Ya just won a Plato Award too.

“Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something” – Plato

Reason2012

You can pray as fervently as you like but if you are disobeying God by supporting and endorsing Evil then you are NOT being righteous in doing so.

Everyone who voted this past election endorsed evil, as not ONE of the candidates was a born again believer in God. Please cite the candidate you voted for that’s a born again believer in God and prove they are by showing they never endorsed evil, as you put it.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Your faux omniscience fails you again and you just keep right on sinning. Not only did I not vote for or endorse evil but you also bore false witness against those candidates who ARE Born Again Christians.

All you’ve done is show your ignorance and desire to publicly sin at will. Evidently you don’t even know what a Born Again Christian is since you say there were none.

And yes, I did vote.

Oh, and you also bore false witness again by falsely accusing me of a litmus test I never stated whatsoever.

Reason2012

I noticed you didn’t say who you voted for. It’s an easy question.

So again: who did you vote for?

Which “born again believer in God” was on the ballot for president that you voted for?
And cite where they they said they’d stop abortion,
Cite where they said they’d stand up against same-gender marriage and overturn it.
Cite where they said they’d stop the promotion of transgenderism.
Cite where they said they’d stop the spread of islam, which is anti-Christ.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Good for you. Glad to see you’re paying attention to detail. I noticed that you didn’t confess and repent from your bearing false witness toward Brothers and making false accusations.

As for the rest of your questions, just go look at the ballot and then the statements made by the candidates and you’ll have your answer.

As for me, I’m obeying Jesus and following His instruction in Matt. 7:6.

I can assure you though that the evidence is there if you look.

Reason2012

Easy question, Royce. So again: who did you vote for?

Which “born again believer in God” was on the ballot for president that you voted for?
And cite where they they said they’d stop abortion,
Cite where they said they’d stand up against same-gender marriage and overturn it.
Cite where they said they’d stop the promotion of transgenderism.
Cite where they said they’d stop the spread of islam, which is anti-Christ.

The fact that you avoid answering says it all. I rest my case.
So keep telling others they’re going to_hell because of who they voted for, while hiding the fact you did the same thing you condemn others for.
Take care.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Easy answer: Matt. 7:6 and I do hope you rest your case. You’re looking more and more like the God-hating trolls that frequent this page with everyone of your posts.

So keep right on being a Liar, like your father Satan, and bearing false witness against me. Said before and I’ll say it again… I NEVER SAID ANYONE IS GOING TO HELL FOR WHO THEY VOTED FOR!!

Now, get behind me Satan!! And take your “take care” with you. Hypocrite!!! Son of Disobedience.

marg

I went to Eastern back in the 70’s. So did my husband. We both had Tony Campolo as a professor, my husband had more of his classes then I did. He was running for office and spent most of my 8am class campaigning….anyway, as I read this to my husband (who is now a ABC pastor, but a conservative not a liberal wack job thankfully) his first comment was “Tony is NOT a theologian!!” Using Tony as an example is pretty dumb I would say as well. He has always been and will always be a liberal who has used Eastern and has been the moving force to push them further and further to the left. When I was a senior in high school my principal found out i was going to Eastern in the Fall and he called me into his office to say to me “you know, they allow dancing there” Well, while I sort of respectfully laughed at that then, now I wish for the day when that was the liberal side of Eastern yet again. To bad that they care more about being a part of the culture instead of trying to change the culture to what it should be. We are to be in the world NOT OF the world!!! It’s a good thing Eastern took the word “Christian” out of it’s name years ago…..

PilgrimGirl

“To bad that they care more about being a part of the culture instead of trying to change the culture to what it should be.”

Where does the Word ever instruct His people to “change the culture to what it should be”?

Jason Todd

“Gay people are just normal people

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It’s hard to be out as an LGBT person in a Christian community

Maybe that’s because the Bible clearly and definitively calls homosexuality a sin.

The students have also requested that the school remove language defining marriage as being between a man and a woman as they assert that it is not agreed upon among Christians.

People who do not agree with the clear, incontrovertible word of God >b>aren’t Christians.

“We recognize the Bible, composed of the Old and New Testaments, as inspired of God and as the supreme and final authority in faith and life,”

Then prove it by kicking these groups off campus and expelling its members.

King Lust

Actually the bible never calls homosexuality a sin

Saying otherwise is just a pure fabrication on your part. And thats the lovely thing about the bible, it means whatever you interpret it to mean.

Jason Todd

You are a liar. Period.

Blocked.

King Lust

bye felicia

Charles

You’re right. It says it’s an abomination. Feel better?

King Lust

doesn’t say that either

To say it does is nothing more than a fabrication of your own mind as you interpret it the way you want to interpret it

Charles

Ahh. I get it you can’t read… No problem..

King Lust

It’s you who can’t read.

Lets make this easy, please post the verse you are referring to so I can point out your own delusion

Charles

Tell you what.. I’ll give you several:

Gen 19:5 KJV
(5) And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Lev 18:22 KJV
(22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 KJV
(13) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deu 22:5 KJV
(5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deu 23:17 KJV
(17) There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Jdg 19:22 KJV
(22) Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.

Rom 1:26-27 KJV
(26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
(27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1Ti 1:10 KJV
(10) For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

King Lust

Well I only asked for a verse (singular) so I’ll go with the first one you posted.

Gen 19:5 KJV
(5) And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men
which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may
know them.

Now, lets test your reading skills.

In that verse there are 30 words. In those 30 words where do you see the word(s) homosexual or abomination?

Charles

The Word “Homosexual” is a modern word for starters or do you not recognize rape, and sodomy?

King Lust

So homosexual is a modern term…okay.

Then in the 30 words provided by the verse Gen 19:5 which word do you think denotes homosexuality?

Charles

(Gen 19:4) But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
(Gen 19:5) And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

King Lust

You already posted Gen 19:5, so I don’t know why you are posting it again.

Still need you to prove that you can read sweetheart

In the 30 words that comprise the verse of Gen 19:5, where do you see the words “homosexual” or “abomination”?

Charles

I just gave you the context. Again. Homosexual is a modern term.. to “Know” them means to have sex.. Not to mention they wanted to rape them.

King Lust

“I just gave you the context.”

The only, additional, thing you “gave” was 19:4. Which consists of 29 words.

So if the 29 words of “context” you gave, where do you see the word “homosexual” or “abomination”?

“Homosexual is a modern term.”

Okay so which non-modern word in 19:5 do you think denotes homosexuality?

Also the word abomination is not a modern word, so where do you see that word in 19:5?

“.. to “Know” them means to have sex.”

Nope, it doesn’t.

Thats just how you’ve interpreted it

Charles

Ok.. I get it… You want to argue the obvious.. Of course, it’s not obvious to you because the blind have no sight. Keep living in your sin. You’ll figure this out when it’s to late. Read down the verses to find it’s an abomination.

King Lust

HAHA, I asked for one simple verse showing that homosexuality is a sin, or an abomination, then all you gave was multiple verses that never said such a thing.

See, this is the level of your reading comprehension and your self delusion.

You read a verse that doesn’t say 1 single thing about homosexuality and then, because you’re an idiot, you tell yourself it’s about homosexuality.

Guess it’s you who can’t read after all.

Want to play again?

Charles

I was right. You can’t read. The term (Still in use today) is called sodomite.

King Lust

So “sodomite” is the non-modern term used for “homosexual”.

Okay

So of the 29 words that comprise Gen 19:4, or the 30 words that comprise Gen 19:5, where do you see the word “sodomite”?

Charles

(Gen 19:4) But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
(Gen 19:5) And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
(Gen 19:6) And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
(Gen 19:7) And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
(Gen 19:8) Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
(Gen 19:9) And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

Let’s see… They try to break the door down because they simply want to shake hands… Moving on.

King Lust

Wow you just keep digging yourself into a deeper hole. You really can’t read and it’s very evident now

Gen 19:4-19:9 comprises of 181 words.

In all those 181 words, where do you see the word(s) “sodomy”, “homosexual”, “sin”, or “abomination”?

“… They try to break the door down because they simply want to shake hands…”

Thus you just proved that you are interpreting the verses to fit your own agenda, not that the verses actually say what you think they say.

Charles

Oh for crying out loud. You CAN’T read..

(Gen 19:6) And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
(Gen 19:7) And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
(Gen 19:8) Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man;

Lot was offering his daughters to have sex with them so they wouldn’t sodomize the angels.. Comprehension is a problem I see.

King Lust

Gen 19:6-19:8 is comprised of 36 words. The words “sodomy” or “abomination” are not used one single time.

“Lot was offering his daughters to have sex with them so they wouldn’t sodomize the angels..”

As lovely as that fairytale is, lots daughters (females) having sex with men is called heterosexuality, not homosexuality.

Anything else sweetheart?

Charles

Right.. They didn’t want Lot’s daughters they wanted the Male angels.. The males wanted the males, they weren’t interested in his daughters.

King Lust

“They didn’t want Lot’s daughters they wanted the Male angels..”

HAHA, in the 181 words that comprises Gen 19:4- 19:9 there is not one single mention of “male angels” let alone any sort of notion of wanting to have sex with male angels.

Do you realize you keep showing that you are the one who can’t read?

Charles

Do you realize you have NO idea what the Bible says? Who are the Sons of God? The Angels.. They are Male. Doesn’t say the Daughters of God does it? Moving on. You have Zero knowledge of the Bible, or context.

King Lust

“Do you realize you have NO idea what the Bible says?”

I know exactly what the bible says hence why I don’t claim it says things it does not say

Do you realize you have no idea what the bible says.

You read Gen 19:4-19:5 and, despite that it says nothing at all about homosexuality or abomination, you crafted in your mind that it says something about homosexuality and abomination

Charles

“”I know exactly what the bible says hence why I don’t claim it says things it does not say””

You do? How come you didn’t know Angels were male?

The verses describe the act of rape, and sodomy.. It’s clear. You know nothing of the Bible. Though you sure think you do.

King Lust

“You do? How come you didn’t know Angels were male?”

In Gen 19:4-19:9 where do you see any mention of “angels” or “male angels”?

“The verses describe the act of rape, and sodomy.. It’s clear”

Nothing clear about it, thats just how you’ve interpreted it

Charles

(Gen 19:1) And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

Just explained it to you. We’re done. You don’t like it.. Let me guess? A homosexual are you?

King Lust

Oh you’ve “explained’ quite a lot.

None of which the bible supports but you’ve tried your hardest

So lets recap:

Of the multiple verses you cited, not one single mention of “male angels”, “angels”, “homosexuality”, “sodomy”, “sin”, or “abomination”.

Not one single mention.

It is you who can’t read sweetheart. Let me teach you some basic reading comprehension.

Sample Sentence 1: “the sky is blue”

So what you should take away from that is that the sky is blue.

If you read that and you take away “the sky is blue and homosexuality is a sin” then you are wrong

Reading comprehension is not hard. It simply requires reading what is factually stated, not what you assume is being said.

Charles

You are a riot! Sons of God refer to angels. The Bible interprets the Bible. You have no knowledge or wisdom of Scripture.. Laughable. You don’t even know the Angels are male.. Says says right there in verse 19:1 And there came two Angels.

King Lust

“The Bible interprets the Bible.”

Exactly.

And in all those verses you cited, the bible does not mention “angels”, “male angels”, “sodomy”, “homosexuality”, “sin”, or “abomination”.

“You don’t even know the Angels are male.. Says says right there in verse 19:1 And there came two Angels.”

It factually says no such thing in verse 19:1.

Work on your reading comprehension

Charles

You don’t know the Bible.. Thanks for playing.

King Lust

I know alot more about it than you. Atleast I can read the verses for what they factually say and not walk away with random made up nonsense like you.

Still waiting for you to point out where the words “sodomy” or “abomination” or said in Gen 19:5.

Charles

You do? Then how is it you don’t know the Angels are male? Obviously, you wish to see what you want to see.. Clearly those verses and the other verses posted spell it out. That’s common amongst the homosexuals who try to justify their sin. Truth is, if you knew the truth you wouldn’t be doing it. Nothing new under the sun.

King Lust

“Obviously, you wish to see what you want to see..”

Just like you do when you think “angels”, “male angels”, “homosexuality”, “sin”, or “abomination” is mentioned anywhere in Gen 19:4-19:9.

Work on that reading comprehension sweetheart

Charles

Go away troll..

Sharon_at_home

Excuse me, but 2 of the scriptures say the word abomination and are very very clear what the abomination is. Plus there are other scriptures that point out more than just ‘going against nature’ was as unrighteous as a list of other sins – ones that are pointed out in other scriptures as sins.
You are the one that is reading what you want it to say. If you don’t like a part of the bible do you always say that it’s not what people interpret it as?
How more clear do you need the scripture to be?

Lev 18:22 KJV
(22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMININATION.

Lev 20:13 KJV
(13)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

King Lust

“Lev 18:22 KJV
(22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMININATION.”

No mention of “gay” or “homosexual” though

Sharon_at_home

It doesn’t have to because it describes what they do as homosexuals – men with men, women with women – also the word Homosexual wasn’t even around until 1890 – 1895. That’s a few (quite a few actually) years after the bible was written.
Not only that but I was addressing your statement that the scriptures Charles cited did not say the word abomination, which is why I also cited those 2 scriptures.

King Lust

“It doesn’t have to because it describes what they do as homosexuals – men with men, women with women -“

I see you need to work on your reading comprehension as well.

Lev 18:22 literally does not say anything about “men with men” or “women with women”.

” – also the word Homosexual wasn’t even around until 1890 – 1895.”

Then what non-modern word used do you think denotes “homosexual”?

“Not only that but I was addressing your statement that the scriptures
Charles cited did not say the word abomination, which is why I also
cited those 2 scriptures.”

Yea thats the funny thing about you and Charles. You both make fictitious claims about what the bible says, then you post a bible verse to “prove” yourself.

Then when I point out that what you claim is never actually said in the verse you provide, you just start throwing in more random verses.

Anything else I can clear up for you sweetheart?

Sharon_at_home

What bible do you use? Perhaps that is the problem why your scripture doesn’t say it the same way.
I’ve heard the “Queen James Bible” took out any references to men who lay with men and woman that lay with woman. They thought if they took it out it would mean Christians would accept them. Apparently they did not read the last verses of Revelations either as they told them what would happen if anyone changes the bible.

So what bible is it that you use?

King Lust

“I’ve heard the “Queen James Bible” took out any references to men who lay with men and woman that lay with woman.”

Well considering that your version of the bible doesn’t say anything about men laying with men either then that means you also took it out.

Thats the great thing about the bible, it can meat anything and everything you want it to mean because all it requires is interpretation.

Just admit you are interpreting it to say what you want, not that it actually says what you claim

Charles

Troll.. Don’t bother. No knowledge of Scripture.

michael louwe

1COR.5:1-13 =

Immorality Defiles the Church

5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named[a] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged
(as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.[b]

6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[c] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Immorality Must Be Judged

9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous,
or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”[d]

PilgrimGirl

From its website: “Eastern University is a top Christian university…”

No, Christians are people, not institutions.

Lumen

I’ve always wondered why the majority of Christians so adamantly protest against same-sex marriage, but not against no-fault divorce?

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

Why not do the same for other capital-crime groups such as murderers, kidnappers, and rapists?

That’s right, I said capital criminal as determined by the only One with the authority to make such a determination.

Keep in mind, this would not be occurring today had the constitutional framers (like the 17th-century Colonial forbears) established government and society upon Yahweh’s immutable/unchanging moral law (including Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13) as the supreme law of the land. Had they done so, there be no homosexual agenda in America period because no sodomite ore lesbian would dare risk exposing themselves to petition government for their “rights.”

And bamboozled Christians promote the Constitution as biblically compatible while their sons are sodomized and their daughters lebianized thanks to the constitutional framers’ rejection of Yahweh as sovereign and thus His morality as the standard for government and society.

For more, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 3.

Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

Chet

Say no to the changing of the school’s position as Holy Bible based. Those unwilling to follow school policy should leave for other institutions of higher learning where anything goes…

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