Nah, folding is most likely fine here. They line already seemed to be kind of interesting. But what's your thought about the raise. Did you plan to go broke against one opponent? Did you raise for value?

I raised for value against the button because I suspect him of having a loose limping range, the BB might call me as well, because he seems loose and I wouldn't like that though, because then our hand is harder to play postflop, but I suppose he also can call very loosely.

If BB folds and BTN pushes, I have a tough decision but I'd most likely fold.
If BB pushes and BTN folds it seems very very close as against most realistic ranges we have at least 40% equity and if I'm not mistaken that is enough.

But they might very often just choose the passive line of calling, and I'm definitely ahead of their calling range. Otherwise I just complete and there is an overcard most of the time and we just check/fold.

Originally posted by Avatars91
But they might very often just choose the passive line of calling, and I'm definitely ahead of their calling range. Otherwise I just complete and there is an overcard most of the time and we just check/fold.

Please read your own sentence "and I'm definitely ahead of their calling range" -> which means you also expect to be ahead if they ship which most likely will happen from their stacks.

The fold is correct in my opinion.....u can call the first reship but the second is suicide usually....as it turns out your ahead but that's basically the only situation you can hope for...usually against two all ins your way behind....plus even if you aren't with 88s it's rare that you'll dodge 4 overcards. just one of those hands.

Please read your own sentence "and I'm definitely ahead of their calling range" -> which means you also expect to be ahead if they ship which most likely will happen from their stacks.

Ok, I don't have that much experience yet to determine whether shortstacks shove preflop that often, I'll have to take your advice and agree that this tendency is true.

By saying that I'm ahead of their calling range at no point do I mean that I'm ahead of their pushing range. I know they can call with much worse hands, but when they push I am not too sure about their range.

By saying that I'm ahead of their calling range at no point do I mean that I'm ahead of their pushing range. I know they can call with much worse hands, but when they push I am not too sure about their range.

From those shorties you can very often see almost the same range for pushing.
Especially when they are playing like VPIP of 50+.