Headso:How cute they are getting to be like America where bullshiat laws that target the poor are made to make it appear like the politicians are doing something about the problem.

This is much. The problem is coal burning factories with no emissions controls, coal burning power plants, just farking burning coal all over the place like it's 1899. Except partying like it's 1899 with a 2014 population means everything turns to sooty, smoggy shiat even WORSE.

It is a nice reminder of why we have the clean air and clean water acts, though.

I wonder how long it will be before the acidity of the fog/smog eats into their buildings. I bet the engineers of the new buildings have todon't take that into consideration.

Taking it into consideration would be admitting that there is a problem. And admitting that there is a problem would be, well, admitting that there is a problem. The day a single piece of intellectual honesty comes out of China will be the day Republicans start acting like compassionate human beings.

That's stupid.That's a California level of stupid.The city is blanketed by lethal smog!Let's ban family cookouts!Who is so stupid as to believe that COOKOUTS are the major contributors to the condition?

I was in Shanghai and Qingdao a few months back. Shanghai smelled of damp noodles and Qingdao smelled like an aluminum casting foundry. I can see why grilling up a couple of Lhasa Apso's would totally wreck the place.

Silly_Sot:That's stupid.That's a California level of stupid.The city is blanketed by lethal smog!Let's ban family cookouts!Who is so stupid as to believe that COOKOUTS are the major contributors to the condition?

California level of stupid?

California had similar unbreathable air in the 60s and 70s. Recess at school was cancelled. It hurt to breathe.

The California instituted the strictest air quality standards on the planet. The population has more than tripled and cats have quintupled and we haven't had a stage 3 smog alert in 30 years.

lohphat:Silly_Sot: That's stupid.That's a California level of stupid.The city is blanketed by lethal smog!Let's ban family cookouts!Who is so stupid as to believe that COOKOUTS are the major contributors to the condition?

California level of stupid?

California had similar unbreathable air in the 60s and 70s. Recess at school was cancelled. It hurt to breathe.

The California instituted the strictest air quality standards on the planet. The population has more than tripled and cats have quintupled and we haven't had a stage 3 smog alert in 30 years.

Bslim:lohphat: Silly_Sot: That's stupid.That's a California level of stupid.The city is blanketed by lethal smog!Let's ban family cookouts!Who is so stupid as to believe that COOKOUTS are the major contributors to the condition?

California level of stupid?

California had similar unbreathable air in the 60s and 70s. Recess at school was cancelled. It hurt to breathe.

The California instituted the strictest air quality standards on the planet. The population has more than tripled and cats have quintupled and we haven't had a stage 3 smog alert in 30 years.

socoloco:Cognitive dissonance. China seems to be on board with that. Grills will destroy China's air quality. Wow.

So... here's a thought experiment for you. You have one power plant burning 100 tons of coal a day. You have 20,000 street vendors burning ten pounds of wood a day. Which is worse for particulate emissions?

theorellior:socoloco: Cognitive dissonance. China seems to be on board with that. Grills will destroy China's air quality. Wow.

So... here's a thought experiment for you. You have one power plant burning 100 tons of coal a day. You have 20,000 street vendors burning ten pounds of wood a day. Which is worse for particulate emissions?

Are you actually trying to imply that residential/street vendor use of coal is somehow comparable to power/heat plants (not to mention the many other industries creating particulate emissions)?

Or are you just saying the very obvious point that the same amount of coal creates the same amount of particulate?

Rindred:jaybeezey: Rindred: Headso: How cute they are getting to be like America where bullshiat laws that target the poor are made to make it appear like the politicians are doing something about the problem.