An update on Jim Bates

Yeah, the Packers could have hired Dick Jauron. He was an alright assistant for the Packers but got ruined when he went to......hmmmm.....oh, yeah Chicago. He lost there, he tried to do the 'interim' thing in Detroit and lost there, now he's going to Buffalo to lose there.

Would he have been a better choice than McCarthy?

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Jesus Christ you guys are so blinded by balls in your face you can't read anymore. Where did I say MM was the wrong man for the job? Where did I say you shouldn't get a chance because you've never been a headcoach.

digs said to look at the man's record and I did. He has an average record at best as OC and none as head coach. That doesn't mean he shouldn't have a shot if TT thinks he's right for the job.

Do you guys follow TT around the grocery store to make sure he doesn't slip on a banana peel?

Neither did he have the talent to reach those heights...as did Holmgren. Kinda like going to a cake baking contest and wondering why the mud pie didn't win the ribbon over Grandma's delicious spice cake made from scratch.

Neither did he have the talent to reach those heights...as did Holmgren. Kinda like going to a cake baking contest and wondering why the mud pie didn't win the ribbon over Grandma's delicious spice cake made from scratch.

Jim Bates was confident that his interview went well enough that the job would be his. He thought he was the top candidate going in and he thought his interview was great. He thought he had the job. Thompson didn't treat him bad. Thompson just hired another guy. I still don't get choosing McCarthy over Bates. McCarthy is slowly winning me over with his attitude and his approach but Bates already had my respect.

Jim Bates was confident that his interview went well enough that the job would be his. He thought he was the top candidate going in and he thought his interview was great. He thought he had the job. Thompson didn't treat him bad. Thompson just hired another guy. I still don't get choosing McCarthy over Bates. McCarthy is slowly winning me over with his attitude and his approach but Bates already had my respect.

Now that DePack has sprouted a man-gina....he gets kinda cranky a few days here and there each month.

Biotch!! LOL

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You got that right. I am in one pissy mood. Can't get projects out the door. Clients use me as their personal bank....extending their own line of credit and yesterday I found out I need to replace my entire HVAC system and hotwater heater in my home. Add that on top of paying 80 grand in tuition this year and my man-gina is in constant need of maxi-pads.

Now that DePack has sprouted a man-gina....he gets kinda cranky a few days here and there each month.

Biotch!! LOL

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You got that right. I am in one pissy mood. Can't get projects out the door. Clients use me as their personal bank....extending their own line of credit and yesterday I found out I need to replace my entire HVAC system and hotwater heater in my home. Add that on top of paying 80 grand in tuition this year and my man-gina is in constant need of maxi-pads.

Now that DePack has sprouted a man-gina....he gets kinda cranky a few days here and there each month.

Biotch!! LOL

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You got that right. I am in one pissy mood. Can't get projects out the door. Clients use me as their personal bank....extending their own line of credit and yesterday I found out I need to replace my entire HVAC system and hotwater heater in my home. Add that on top of paying 80 grand in tuition this year and my man-gina is in constant need of maxi-pads.

That's right. I'm not ashamed to admit it oops

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That's why you're the best De.

80K in tuition? How many kids are in college?

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Two for this year only.....my daughter will be a senior at ND and my son will be a freshman at Gettysburg.

Now that DePack has sprouted a man-gina....he gets kinda cranky a few days here and there each month.

Biotch!! LOL

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You got that right. I am in one pissy mood. Can't get projects out the door. Clients use me as their personal bank....extending their own line of credit and yesterday I found out I need to replace my entire HVAC system and hotwater heater in my home. Add that on top of paying 80 grand in tuition this year and my man-gina is in constant need of maxi-pads.

That's right. I'm not ashamed to admit it oops

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That's why you're the best De.

80K in tuition? How many kids are in college?

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Two for this year only.....my daughter will be a senior at ND and my son will be a freshman at Gettysburg.

I liked Jim a lot. I wanted Jim Bates for HC very very strongly, but I understand some men are not built for HC and are best suited for DC/OC positions. I believe Fritz Shurmur and Jim Bates fall into that category.

Jim's intensity was awesome to see and I bet even better to witness first hand.

With that said, I can't fault Ted for hiring who he thought would be the best HC for the Packers.

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The Dolphines seemed to think the same way, when they took Nick Saban instead of Jim Bates for HC, even though they knew his abilities as HC (at least particularly).

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good(correct) stuff, you two! I am glad I didnt have to say anything, or I woulda been labeled a TT loving excuse maker.

I liked Jim a lot. I wanted Jim Bates for HC very very strongly, but I understand some men are not built for HC and are best suited for DC/OC positions. I believe Fritz Shurmur and Jim Bates fall into that category.

Jim's intensity was awesome to see and I bet even better to witness first hand.

With that said, I can't fault Ted for hiring who he thought would be the best HC for the Packers.

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The Dolphines seemed to think the same way, when they took Nick Saban instead of Jim Bates for HC, even though they knew his abilities as HC (at least particularly).

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good(correct) stuff, you two! I am glad I didnt have to say anything, or I woulda been labeled a TT loving excuse maker.

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To be devil's advocate, how do you know that MM isn't one of those guys and how do you know that Jim Bates is?

Every GM has a feel for the guy they want. The great gm's hire outstanding people because it's part of what makes them great. They not only recognize great talent, they attract it. Only time will tell whether Jim Bates would have been the better choice over Mike McCarthy. As with everything else with TT, I'm on a "wait and see" mode right now. It's too early to tell where this franchise is going or how good it's going to be.

I did like Jim Bates though and would not have minded it if he would have been chosen as the head coach.

Every GM has a feel for the guy they want. The great gm's hire outstanding people because it's part of what makes them great. They not only recognize great talent, they attract it. Only time will tell whether Jim Bates would have been the better choice over Mike McCarthy. As with everything else with TT, I'm on a "wait and see" mode right now. It's too early to tell where this franchise is going or how good it's going to be.

I did like Jim Bates though and would not have minded it if he would have been chosen as the head coach.

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Hear hear!!!!! I actually think MM will be a great headcoach for us but that's just a gut feeling.

Every GM has a feel for the guy they want. The great gm's hire outstanding people because it's part of what makes them great. They not only recognize great talent, they attract it. Only time will tell whether Jim Bates would have been the better choice over Mike McCarthy. As with everything else with TT, I'm on a "wait and see" mode right now. It's too early to tell where this franchise is going or how good it's going to be.

I did like Jim Bates though and would not have minded it if he would have been chosen as the head coach.

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Time won't tell because if Jim would have been better regardless of how poor our record is the next three seasons, no one can accurately say Jim would have been better than McCarthy.

We won't ever know. All we can do is wonder how good Bates would have been in the same position McCarthy is in and hope McCarthy gets us a few SB rings in the next couple years. NO PRESSURE