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Comment by Soldrethar

why not make the monk available to Goblin and Worgen aswell now cata has arived if the Pandaren are going to teach monk to both Factions

Same reason why Pandaren's are not going to be Death Knights: The two new races are isolationists who won't be ready to learn the Monk skill.

Actually I think it's because both worgen and goblin starting zones are in the past, back before pandaren came and starting teaching people how to kung fu, so it'd be impossible for them to be monks since monks start at lvl 1.

that's exactly what he meant.

Isolationism means foreigners aren't allowed in their lands.

Gilneas and Kezan are both set within a timeframe where the pandarens werent around yet. And even if they were, the greymane wall, and Kezan's "Only goblins allowed" policy would had prevented them from entering.

Also I'd apreciate it if you didn't used the word "Kung Fu" :S We already have enough KFP comparisons for a life time, and Kung Fu is but 1 of MANY MANY MANY martial arts that exist in the world.

Just because the monks teach the other races, their martial arts, doesn't mean its Kung Fu, or Karate, or Tae Kwong Do, for all we know, its a completely invented martial art.

But I like the word Kung Fu :o, but ya, I get the annoyance of kung fu panda comparisons, but I try to seperate kung fu from those movies. I think pandaren martial arts is based on Shaolin Monk actually :

Which would be uber awesome. God I hope something similar to the diablo 3 monk outfit is a monk tier or pvp set.

Comment by Adamsm

on 2012/02/28 12:12:07

Still doesn't have anything to do with the real versions of the arts; same as Priests are nothing like real world priests lol.

Comment by Soldrethar

on 2012/02/28 16:50:32

Still doesn't have anything to do with the real versions of the arts; same as Priests are nothing like real world priests lol.

Ya, monks use magic apparently in mists of pandaria (light and dark chi, summoning statues out of thin air, etc.)

Comment by Rankkor

on 2012/02/28 17:37:39

Hunters losing melee weapon is stupid! They should let other classes keep their melee weapons and let them keep their shoot attack and they should give hunters an attack that has them hit with their melee weapon. There are a lot of bad ass melee weapons that I have worked hard to collect for transmog on my hunter and I don't want to lose them. So what if people use equip them just for stats, having two phantoms blades transmoged on my hunter's back makes her look awesome. I do like a lot of the changes Blizzard is making but this one is upsetting.

you can still equip your melee weapons for bragging when you're strolling through Stormwind/Orgrimmar, the ranged "slot" is being removed. You equip your bow/gun/crossbow on your melee slot, and as a tradeoff, your min-range is removed.

Don't tell me you HONESTLY like the way hunters perform at point-blank combat,( AkA deal the same damage as a paraplegic grandma) I MUCH RATHER be able to still be able to shoot if the enemy is right on my face.

Comment by Rankkor

on 2012/02/28 17:44:44

why not make the monk available to Goblin and Worgen aswell now cata has arived if the Pandaren are going to teach monk to both Factions

Same reason why Pandaren's are not going to be Death Knights: The two new races are isolationists who won't be ready to learn the Monk skill.

Actually I think it's because both worgen and goblin starting zones are in the past, back before pandaren came and starting teaching people how to kung fu, so it'd be impossible for them to be monks since monks start at lvl 1.

that's exactly what he meant.

Isolationism means foreigners aren't allowed in their lands.

Gilneas and Kezan are both set within a timeframe where the pandarens werent around yet. And even if they were, the greymane wall, and Kezan's "Only goblins allowed" policy would had prevented them from entering.

Also I'd apreciate it if you didn't used the word "Kung Fu" :S We already have enough KFP comparisons for a life time, and Kung Fu is but 1 of MANY MANY MANY martial arts that exist in the world.

Just because the monks teach the other races, their martial arts, doesn't mean its Kung Fu, or Karate, or Tae Kwong Do, for all we know, its a completely invented martial art.

But I like the word Kung Fu :o, but ya, I get the annoyance of kung fu panda comparisons, but I try to seperate kung fu from those movies. I think pandaren martial arts is based on Shaolin Monk actually :

Comment by Soldrethar

Pandas suck. Why didn't they make a new vrykul race or a dragon race or anything else not ridiculously fluffly and childish race?

Did you make an account here just to post this?

Comment by Napish

on 2012/03/04 09:28:54

PLEASE DO NOT DEMOTE WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHY... READ IT ALL!

So it seem blizzard have done it again... another failure. Let me atleast say what i think without getting demoted for a stupid reason.

Lets start with Vanilla "WoW"* Raiding was epic* PvP was a challange to survive (the adrenaline kick you got from beating the @#$% of the oposite if your good player)* Learning the eviromental and use it to your benefitial.and more...

Then from no-where, we had strange walking Aliens entering the game "called" Draenies and the "refined" Blood Elfs.Okey here i can accept the BE's as a role of the game but the unforgivible exception to bring Dreanies in the game is like taking in a Race from another game (Not-mention-what), They blizzard renames it and refere it as ... a new name.

And how the heck did the PORTAL suddently get active and where it came from?... Outland? what a joke.

Later on we had the expansion of Northrend*Possitive futures:* Massive and Legendary Raid "Ulduar"* The battle of Wintergrasp.* A Coloseum (saidly they didnt add a chance to PvP) inside this area... or a fight-alike-area.* An amazing continent with different places and functions...

Negative (failures):* Team-help is impossible if one if "futher in questline" and you cant go back and help your friend. (should be a "personal-change" function so u can help your buds.* The boring Layouts of for example some Dungeons, and Raids, ICC, etc.... "black, dark-blue" or wait... lets go "ONE_COLOR_EVERYTHING"

Now we had a catastrofic impact on the world when Deathwing broke out of his Earth-prison.* Nice new continents "growths" and better grafic less lag,BAD THING: PvP Forever got to be DESTROYED. (No-more, World pvp... no longer 1v1 battles balances....) The only way to survive is go as a swarm...

And now we are getting an additional Expansion... Lets say this i know why so many left the game and will very soon leave aswell.* PvP Broken for the many as the few.* Tier sets (We want the DAMN color-gear back) * Better Layouts, More effects, Let us affect the continent or the Area we are in.... Its go for gear, Dungeons, Raids... "you know what i mean"...

There is so much more i could count for but i wont.... I just hope that blizzard take a GOOD LOOK on their game before they make a massive change from the worse to "disaster"

Please re-consider how you affect the game.

// A player who once loved a game who become something else then "wow"...

Comment by Adamsm

on 2012/03/04 11:07:34

Lets start with Vanilla "WoW"* Raiding was epic* PvP was a challange to survive (the adrenaline kick you got from beating the @#$% of the oposite if your good player)* Learning the eviromental and use it to your benefitial.

To the raiding...no it really wasn't, it was a slog of endless runs where if you were lucky you may get the item you needed....then enjoyed the mechanics of the raid destroying you. PvP still had the people who would just destroy you on sight. We've been learning the environment all the time in each of the expansions.

Then from no-where, we had strange walking Aliens entering the game "called" Draenies and the "refined" Blood Elfs.Okey here i can accept the BE's as a role of the game but the unforgivible exception to bring Dreanies in the game is like taking in a Race from another game (Not-mention-what), They blizzard renames it and refere it as ... a new name.

And how the heck did the PORTAL suddently get active and where it came from?... Outland? what a joke.

1. Draenei, not Draenie...jesu.2. The Broken of Warcraft 3 were corrupted Draenei, so they were in the game, they just got an extreme makeover and a retcon to be able to fit into the world as it was.3. If you did any of the pre-expansion quests, they tell you that Legion itself(you know, the group responsible for teaching the orcs to make the Portal in the first place), reopened the Portal after it was sealed up again following the forces of Illidan leaving Azeroth during Warcraft 3. All in all...I see a player who joined in Vanilla and never played any of the RTS'.

Later on we had the expansion of Northrend*Possitive futures:* Massive and Legendary Raid "Ulduar"* The battle of Wintergrasp.* A Coloseum (saidly they didnt add a chance to PvP) inside this area... or a fight-alike-area.* An amazing continent with different places and functions...

Negative (failures):* Team-help is impossible if one if "futher in questline" and you cant go back and help your friend. (should be a "personal-change" function so u can help your buds.* The boring Layouts of for example some Dungeons, and Raids, ICC, etc.... "black, dark-blue" or wait... lets go "ONE_COLOR_EVERYTHING"

For your postives; agree with Ulduar, Wintergrasp was semi-meh depending on the server since some of them had massive Horde or Alliance populations that just destroyed the other faction, making it so that they never got the Vault. Arenas....eh, if you enjoy PVP guess you like that. As for the amazing continent, only a few areas were amazing, others were extremely meh.

To the negatives; yes Phasing could be a pain in the ass, but at least it allowed for the world to change as you went along and see you actually had an impact. The layouts....yeah that's been around for longer then Wrath; you described pretty much every single dungeon and raid since the beginning; even the technicolour BC dungeons had that issue.

Now we had a catastrofic impact on the world when Deathwing broke out of his Earth-prison.* Nice new continents "growths" and better grafic less lag,BAD THING: PvP Forever got to be DESTROYED. (No-more, World pvp... no longer 1v1 battles balances....) The only way to survive is go as a swarm...

ZOMG! PVP WAS DESTROYED FOREVER.....except, people were still out and about and still hunting down groups, there were still the Battlegrounds to fight in, and Tol Barad was the new Wintergrasp.

And now we are getting an additional Expansion... Lets say this i know why so many left the game and will very soon leave aswell.* PvP Broken for the many as the few.* Tier sets (We want the DAMN color-gear back)* Better Layouts, More effects, Let us affect the continent or the Area we are in.... Its go for gear, Dungeons, Raids... "you know what i mean"...

PvP exists, it's just a matter of finding it in the world. We'll probably see new far Eastern Tier sets coming. And weren't you just complaining about how phasing made you miserable in Wrath but you want them to do it more? Also, go look up the information on PVP and PVE Scenarios.

There is so much more i could count for but i wont....I just hope that blizzard take a GOOD LOOK on their game before they make a massive change from the worse to "disaster"

Please re-consider how you affect the game.

// A player who once loved a game who become something else then "wow"...

Honestly man, maybe it's time to give up on WoW, since it doesn't seem like you have fun anymore. Also, I'd suggest getting your Nostalgia goggles fixed.

Let me at least say what i think without getting demoted for a stupid reason.

You can say what you think as long as you want, as long as you're willing to at the very least establish a difference between FACT and OPINION, which are not the same thing. Mileages can and WILL vary between different people, and what one can enjoy, others may find painful. (Not for nothing, some people actually enjoy BDSM, whereas I find it completely disturbing and creepy)

Lets start with Vanilla "WoW"* Raiding was epic* PvP was a challange to survive (the adrenaline kick you got from beating the @#$% of the oposite if your good player)* Learning the eviromental and use it to your benefitial.and more...

*Raiding was epic: Right, because spending up to 2 hours waiting for 40 people to log, and make their way on foot to the raid, then another 15 minutes buffing individually said 40 people, then about 2 to 3 hours killing trash, only to fight bosses that had stupid and boring mechanics and were simple gear-checks. Not to mention spending months doing attunements before you were even allowed to step inside, and how could I forget about spending 30 minutes walking back to the raid due to cementaries being on the other side of the world, plus another 15 min rebuffing, another hour re-killing respawned trash, and how goolie-darn-joyful it was to replace a raider that got fed-up and tired of that crap, by trying to find someone who had already underwent the absurdly taxing and utterly disastrous attunement process.

Ohh yeah, good times

*PvP was a challenge to survive: Pfft, yeah sure. *Rogue uses Ambush* *Rogue has Killed You* *only like 6 specs out of 30 were actually viable for PVP or PVE. If you were an unlucky schmuck who rolled a boomkin/ele-shammy/ret pally/feral druid/survival hunter/locks of any flavor/shadow priest/prot pally/or non-prot warrior, then Good luck trying to kill anyone who isn't lagging badly or had the coeficient of a steak.

The only challenge was to find someone who didn't rolled rogue to one-shot everything, or mage to 1shot everything from range while polymorphing you for a full min without regen on the HP.

*Learning the eviromental and use it to your benefitial: You do realize that the "don't stand in the fire" mechanic is STILL used in the game today. That hasn't changed, and will never change. All bosses and even some trashes will have some sort of AoE attack placed on the ground that you have to avoid.

Then from no-where, we had strange walking Aliens entering the game "called" Draenies and the "refined" Blood Elfs.Okey here i can accept the BE's as a role of the game but the unforgivible exception to bring Dreanies in the game is like taking in a Race from another game (Not-mention-what), They blizzard renames it and refere it as ... a new name.

Dude if you're gonna make a point learn basic redaction, this bit right here is damn near impossible to read. If english isn't your main language, this could be excused, but if it isn't then its really shameful that you can't even spell the most basic words or use simple redaction and sentence-construction skills.

And how the heck did the PORTAL suddently get active and where it came from?... Outland? what a joke.

Those that do their homework and actually know the lore of the game know that the portal was created between Medivh and Gul'dan and was the very thing that kicked off the plot of Warcraft 1, which is very clear you've never played nor heard of. As for its reactivation, it was doomlord Kazaak, again, if you had done your homework you'd know this. Calling it a joke instead of simple lack of research on your part is really laughable.

Later on we had the expansion of Northrend*Possitive futures:* Massive and Legendary Raid "Ulduar"* The battle of Wintergrasp.* A Coloseum (saidly they didnt add a chance to PvP) inside this area... or a fight-alike-area.* An amazing continent with different places and functions...

Negative (failures):* Team-help is impossible if one if "futher in questline" and you cant go back and help your friend. (should be a "personal-change" function so u can help your buds.* The boring Layouts of for example some Dungeons, and Raids, ICC, etc.... "black, dark-blue" or wait... lets go "ONE_COLOR_EVERYTHING"

I disagree on the over-use of the blueish color for ALL the dungeons. Pretty much only Icecrown (and everything located in it) was oversaturated with dark blue. But then again, Shadowmoon was oversaturated with lime green, and Silithus was oversaturated with yellow. All wow zones have a predominant color theme in them, this is not new.

Now we had a catastrofic impact on the world when Deathwing broke out of his Earth-prison.* Nice new continents "growths" and better grafic less lag,BAD THING: PvP Forever got to be DESTROYED. (No-more, World pvp... no longer 1v1 battles balances....) The only way to survive is go as a swarm...

PvP destroyed? how? I've seen a lot of pvp going on in this expac, and if you're whining about class balance, you, and others like you need to understand that fully balancing every class without making each of them clones of each other is virtually impossible. The best we can have is have 1 class (or a small few) be the FOTM class, and then be nerfed to oblivion and back again. This is true for EVERY SINGLE MMORPG IN THE MARKET, if you can name it, it has people complaining about X class being OP.

At least blizz does something about it, which is more than what can be said of other Devs for MMOs (Lineage II comes to mind)

And now we are getting an additional Expansion... Lets say this i know why so many left the game and will very soon leave aswell.* PvP Broken for the many as the few.* Tier sets (We want the DAMN color-gear back) * Better Layouts, More effects, Let us affect the continent or the Area we are in.... Its go for gear, Dungeons, Raids... "you know what i mean"...

There is so much more i could count for but i wont.... I just hope that blizzard take a GOOD LOOK on their game before they make a massive change from the worse to "disaster"

1: can you actually foresee the future? do you have a cristal ball in front of your PC to see it? if not, then please stop trying to pass wild-mass-guessing for fact ok? thanks.

2: I don't even know what the hell do you mean with that tier comment. Again, speak proper english or we wont understand a word of what you're saying.

3: Again, have no idea what you are talking about. Just a footnote: They added Terrain Phasing in cataclysm, so we can actually see physical changes in the layout of the land as we quest. You can see this in effect on Gilneas, Lost island, Hyjal, and even Redridge. Just FYI.

I just hope that blizzard take a GOOD LOOK on their game before they make a massive change from the worse to "disaster"

And I hope people complaining about the game can learn to A: stop trying to pretend GUESSING AND SPECULATION are facts, and stop trying to pretend their opinions are anything more than that, an OPINION.

Subjective info is subjective.

Comment by Cambo

on 2012/03/04 20:11:46

I haven't been playing since December because I had to move house and sold my computer.But I am REALLY excited for M.O P!

Comment by Rankkor

on 2012/03/04 20:29:01

I haven't been playing since December because I had to move house and sold my computer.But I am REALLY excited for M.O P!

same here.

There are some elements I don't like, but overall, I like most of what I've seen so far. Can't wait for March 19 to get the new volley of info regarding MoP

Comment by Soldrethar

on 2012/03/06 06:36:27

I haven't been playing since December because I had to move house and sold my computer.But I am REALLY excited for M.O P!

same here.

There are some elements I don't like, but overall, I like most of what I've seen so far. Can't wait for March 19 to get the new volley of info regarding MoP

March 13th actually :)

Comment by Rankkor

on 2012/03/06 08:29:13

I haven't been playing since December because I had to move house and sold my computer.But I am REALLY excited for M.O P!

same here.

There are some elements I don't like, but overall, I like most of what I've seen so far. Can't wait for March 19 to get the new volley of info regarding MoP

March 13th actually :)

nope, its the 19. The info is released on the 13th but under NDA. Said NDA is lifted on the 19th.