EDIT: Thanks for the responses everyone. Thanks in advance for the continued responses. I'm looking at a couple new cars now. My brother in law is getting his WRX at this dealer, so it'd be a little too convenient to ride down with him and pick up a GTI from the same dealer, if I can get the right price.

Edit: This car has been removed from the site. Likely not available anymore. 2011 4dr manual, 13k miles; has Bixenon, Detroits, sunroof; Leather, Dynaudio, no nav. Listed at $25k. I'm calling these guys up to bargain a wholesale price, how much should this car cost? It's quite a bit more expensive than I was out to pay originally. I set out to do 22k max, but this thing is so tempting...

This dealer's other car is a 2012 with 26k miles, same 4dr manual. Has sunroof, Detroits and nav. $22.5. How far should I lowball this one?

Why would you buy a 3 year old car for $20k. I bought my four door, DSG with sunroof and Dynaudio new for $25.5k. back out the cost of the DSG and Dyna and it brings it to about $24k. For the $4k you get a new car with 3/35 service included and a new car warranty. At least to me it doesn't make sense to by used at these prices.

^^^ how do you get a 2011 and pick sunroof and dynaudio? You can only get dynaudio with the autobahn edition, and the cheapest I have heard of is 29k... I am assuming you have a 2011 because of your name. I am on the tapatalk app so I cannot see your sig or info.