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August 25, 2009

New Languages in Google Translate

Google's machine translation service added new languages: Afrikaans, Belarusian, Icelandic, Irish, Macedonian, Malay, Swahili, Welsh, Yiddish. Some of these languages have a small number of speakers: for example, according to Wikipedia, only 320,000 people speak Icelandic.

Swahili is a language spoken in Eastern Africa, Afrikaans is spoken in South Africa and Namibia, Yiddish has 3 million speakers in the Orthodox Jewish communities, Malay is an official language in Brunei, Malaysia, and Singapore. Welsh is spoken in Wales, England and Argentina, Irish is spoken by a small minority of the Irish population, Macedonian has less than 3 million speakers and many enemies, while Belarusian has 9 million speakers.

The number of languages supported by Google Translate is 51, which is impressive, but there are still many popular languages that aren't supported. At least not yet.

You must have heard the phrase 'You will find a malayalee even on the moon!', but still Google hasn't rolled out translation for Malayalam (an Indian language which is supposedely the hardest language in Asia!) :(

It's really nice that Google support all these languages, but let's remember we're talking here about statistical machine translation that is good to have a clue what the text is about and that's all. If you really need good translation you need to use services like OneHourTranslation.com that have professional translators, or you risk your reputation. I do not recommend using a translation plug-in in your website if your readers aren't techies.

You can't add the Macedonian language because it doesn't exist any country with the name Macedonia. According to the United Nations the name is: "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" as you can see here: http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml

@Odisseas: your logic is completely flawed. There is no country named "Lule Sami", however, 2000 people have Lule Sami as their native language in northern Norway and Sweden. Speakers of Yiddish are spread all over the world, but in Judea they also speak variants of Arabic, Hebrew, etc. There is no one-to-one relation between languages and countries, far from it. Even English is spread over many countries that also have speakers of other languages (Navaho, Irish, Warlpiri, etc.)

I agree with Anonymous @ August 25, 2009 10:27 AM. You are losing your reputation in Greece and many other countries all over the world with these things you are doing. If you want to impress 2 million people and lose more than 20 millions, well go on and do it... You'll lose...

Thank you google for the Macedonian translation,if only i had it in my day,i wouldnt have had to speak that disgusting jibber jabber that my tutor taught me as a child,i think he called it koine or some such thing.Alexander of Macedon.ps Macedonia...Land of Legend Land of Glory..but NEVER greek!

hey even the greeks can speek Macedonian nowMakes posing as one of us just a bit easier.only thing is that the "slavo" and "fyromian" stuff gives them away poor little greek babies.....want to be everything but alas will always be nothing.

a very simple question to greeks:are you slavic,albanian,turkish origin or not?when exactly did you greeks get your own country?....wasnt it in 1830 or something,and isnt the official name of your state...the hellenic republic?who are you really?...most of you dont know what you are .....just that you want to be everything you are not...like Macedonian

you name macedonian the language created and named macedonian at 1944?Actually a bulgarian language with many servian insade.Macedonians had ONLY one language, the Greek language and they spread ONLY Greek language and civilization to all known world.There is no neighbor country at the area(Hellas, Bulgaria, Servia) recognize any nation called macedonian or ,macedonian language>.Its just another one Slavic language and you can call it as you like, except Macedonian. Macedonian language its the Greek Language spoked and still speaking throw centuries by Greeks.Enough with the distortion of historical truth, google you challenge any civilized person on this planet.

Google thank you a lot for adding macedonian in language's list . I was waiting this for a long time.It will be really helpfull for my essays and columns. Thank you once again .

And for all greeks and bulgarians:Our language is very different from yours. We dont have any extra similarities.Today (figuratively speaking) many people find out that they made a big mistake when they split our country to so-called "good" neighbors. - „We have "good neighbor relationship"! ( I hate this fraze especially when it's spoken by Athens's Government )“.

Hahaha this is just from our side . We are the good one.You are our enemies ' coz the only thing you do , ectually the only thing you want is our territory, our language, our culture because all these, every peace of MACEDONIA is unique.MACEDONIA is ancies, timeless.

So you want to be good neighbors, leave this country alone or you are afraid of us , 3 million people because you know that we have the right about everything.

However one thing should be clear , we are Macedonians we'll always be no mather what you say or do.We will never betray the country.

"The first official Macedonian grammar was developed by Krume Kepeski. One of the most important contributors in the standardisation of the Macedonian literary language was Blaže Koneski. The first document written in the literary standard Macedonian language is the first issue of the Nova Makedonija newspaper in 1944. Makedonska Iskra (Macedonian Spark) was the first Macedonian newspaper to be published in Australia, from 1946 to 1957. A monthly with national distribution, it commenced in Perth and later moved to Melbourne and Sydney."......"In most sources in and out of Bulgaria before the Second World War, the southern Slavonic dialect continuum covering the area of today's Republic of Macedonia and Northern Greece was referred to as group of Bulgarian dialects. The local variants of the name of the language were also balgàrtzki, bùgarski or bugàrski; i.e. Bulgarian.[63] Although Bulgaria was the first country to recognize the independence of the Republic of Macedonia, most of its academics, as well as the general public, regard the language spoken there as a form of Bulgarian.[9] However after years of diplomatic impasse caused by an academic dispute, in 1999 the government in Sofia solved the problem with the Macedonian Language under the euphemistic formula: "the official language of the country (Republic of Macedonia) in accordance with its constitution"."

To everybody who wants to learn about the origin of Macedonians living today in Republic of Macedonia, here it is one scientific answer:

https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40

https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=8

When facts speak, even the gods are silent!!!

As you can clearly see from both links, there are far more Slavs in Greece than in Republic of Macedonia, and there is much more stronger genetic link between Antic Macedonians and Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia (30%), rather than link with Greece of only 5%.

"A very simple question to slavic peoples: What does the name ALEXANDER mean?"

You mean Alexandar? :p

It's is well known, and historicaly proven (only in their minds), that the Alexandar's mother language was the ancient Macedonian language, the one that the people of the Republic speak nowdays!!! :Ppppppp

Thank you Google for adding the dialect of the Former Yugoslav Republic North of Macedonia, a true Bulgarian dialect indeed. You may want to consider Quebecois as well since it is so much different than French...or is it?

332 classical scholars from around the world, sent a letter to the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama.

"Rather, Macedonia and Macedonian Greeks have been located for at least 2,500 years just where the modern Greek province of Macedonia is. Exactly this same relationship is true for Attica and Athenian Greeks, Argos and Argive Greeks, Corinth and Corinthian Greeks, etc.

We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero. Alexander the Great was thoroughly and indisputably Greek. His great-great-great grandfather, Alexander I, competed in the Olympic Games where participation was limited to Greeks."

If you want to read it full it's all here: http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html

If falsifications of historical facts are condoned and promoted by Google, what other lies are presentd and promoted as facts: Google Maps and geographies, climate change and weather patterns, environmental conditions, Financial and medical data? ... Way to go Google, eroding credibility is bad for business, simply GOOGLESS.

Accusing Greeks and Bulgsarians as racists while at the same time the Slavs of the Former Yugoslav Republic North of Macedonia are scrambling for a race and an ethnicity is an awkward position to be in.

The funny thing, of course, is that “Macedonians” are Slavs, Bulgarians basically, so they have no connection to Alexander other than their ancestors having relatively recently moved to the real estate he used to rule. And yet they’re holding him up as some sort of font of legitimacy

What does Macedonian mean; What does does Alexander mean; What does Phillip mean; from wich language are these names; The Answer will be forever the same! GREEKSo go and Fuck Your Self BulgarMaks from Monkeydonia without Historie, Pride and Glory.Thanks Google, so everyone can see that Google is an Unhistorical Instrument!

There so called "Macedonian" language is a invention of the Tito regime, former Yugoslavia, that is a fact wether the FYROMskies like it or not!

the term "Macedonian" for their language is misleading as the citizens of FYROM do not hold any geographical nor cultural nor linguistic primacy over the region of Macedonia (FYROM doesnt include any lands of Historic Macedonia! LOL!). These people have NOTHING in association with the ancient/byzantine/medieval Macedonians which were GREEK and the only language they spoke was GREEK.

the so called "Macedonian" language is a BULGRARIAN dialect in which the Yugoslavian regime in the eraly 50s added Serbian letters to de-Bulgarize it.

There is no Macedonian dialect...It is a mixture of Slavic and Bulgarian languages..Nothing in common with Alexander the Great, Phillip the Second,and all other major Greek names and symbols that FYROM claims. Really, can anyone explain what Alexander means? Or Phillipos? Alex-ander comes from alex(=away) and anhr=man and means the one who is away from men.Phillipus comes from phil- meaning the one who loves and ipos=horse( see hippopotamus from example)This whole forgery of history and language must stop. It is unaccepted and, in the end, futileThe citizens of FYROM-Skopje are of Bulgarian and Serbian origin and so is their language. Anyone with a little knowledge of languages would agree 100% about that!

Google, you should ask any major and honourable historian in any American University before making so insulting mistakes. A Bulgarian politician is offering 1000000 euros to the one who finds evidence of the existence of Macedonian state, before 1945. FYROM is a fabricated country with hostile and illusive intentions to every one of its neighbours. You really should correct all that and respect the truth.

"Google, you should ask any major and honourable historian in any American University before making so insulting mistakes.A Bulgarian politician is offering 1000000 euros to the one who finds evidence of the existence of Macedonian state, before 1945. FYROM is a fabricated country with hostile and illusive intentions to every one of its neighbours. You really should correct all that and respect the truth."

332 Classical Scholars from all over the world signed a letter that was sent to the President Barack Obama! In that letter they tell FYROM to stop stealing and manipulating history about Macedonia and Alexander the Great... they know better than some brainwashed wannabe "Macedonians"!

The letter:http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html

The signatures:http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html#obamacosigners

History is history nobody has the right to change it or twist it just to become someone!

Can the Greeks claim they are Italians? What would the Italians reaction be if the Greeks claimed that? They would think they are the joke of the year, or better the joke of the millennium... that's what the Fyromians are, a joke!

months ago FYROM's nation TV aired a documentary, were the god itself spoke to the "Macedonians". He told them that they were the first race on earth he created (the Macedonoids) and then he created the yellow race (Mongoloids) and the black race the (Negroids). In the video the god says that every human on earth came from them (the Macedonoids).

That is a really and serious brainwash, and i feel sorry about the people of FYROM... it's like they live in another parallel universe!

Guys from all over the world the history you know so far is fake... WE ARE ALL MACEDONOIDS!!! :p

If you don't believe me just check the video from the documentary below, to understand the magnitude of the brain damage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNY3Sf7lLg

If Hitler was a maniac about the Aryan race and blood purity, what are they???

goole, you should find another name for the language you have called macedonian. The language spoken in macedonia is Greek. I propose to call it Serbo-albano-boulgarian. You contribute to a confusing initiated by Stalin and Tito in the midst of the Cold War and continues to the present day.

I think this discussion is already off-topic. This post isn't about history or international affairs, it's about Google Translate, a great service that lets you translate documents in more than 50 languages. If you think that Macedonian is not a distinct language or the name is not accurate, that's your opinion. As long as it's an officially-recognized language, Google has no right to treat the situation subjectively.

Learn to respect other people and use Google Translate to find more about other countries.

Encarta:Macedonian Language, official language of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Because there are no clear linguistic divisions that correspond to the geopolitical divisions in the South Slavic language area, there is considerable dispute about how to classify the Macedonian language. Bulgaria denies the existence of a Macedonian language, classifying the spoken language as a southwest Bulgarian dialect and the written language as a “regional norm” of Bulgarian. Until the end of World War II (1939-1945), Serbs called Macedonian a south Serbian dialect. Many scholars in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, on the other hand, consider dialects spoken in Bulgaria and Serbia to be part of the Macedonian language. Greeks oppose the use of the name “Macedonia” to refer to the former Yugoslav republic, and they object as well to calling the language of that region “Macedonian.”

Macedonian is the native language of most inhabitants of the republic, and the second language for Albanians and other minority inhabitants. Together with the closely related Bulgarian language, Macedonian forms the eastern group of the South Slavic branch of the Slavic languages. Macedonian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, as do the Russian, Bulgarian, and Serbian languages.

Wikipedia:Macedonian (Mk-Makedonski jazik.ogg македонски јазик (help·info), IPA: [maˈkɛdɔnski ˈjazik]) is the official language of Republic of Macedonia and is a part of the Eastern group of South Slavic languages. Macedonian is closely related to and shares a high degree of mutual intelligibility with the Bulgarian language and to a certain extent with Serbian and Croatian languages.[5]

The Macedonian language is a subject of controversy with Macedonia's neighbouring countries: Greeks challenge the legitimacy of its name, while many Bulgarians deny its separateness from Bulgarian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_language

So the correct would be Macedonian Slavic. It's wrong that google takes sides!

Let's say you're from Australia, you write a cool software and then you decide to translate the interface in French, Italian, German and Japanese. And then you get a lot of messages from a country named Macedonia: people want an interface in their own language and they even send you the translation. What do you do? Tell them that Macedonian is not a language?

Unacceptable, i know no country with the name Macedonia, only region so how can there be a macedonian language?

official wikipedia article:

The first country to be known by this name was the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, which before 3 October 1929 was known as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. It was established on 1 December 1918 by the union of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia (to which the Kingdom of Montenegro was annexed on 13 November 1918, and the Conference of Ambassadors in Paris gave international recognition to the union on 13 July 1922[1]). The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was invaded by the Axis powers in 1941, and because of the events that followed, was officially abolished in 1943 and 1945.

The second country with this name was the Democratic Federal Yugoslavia, proclaimed in 1943 by the Yugoslav Partisans resistance movement in World War II. It was renamed to the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia in 1946, when a communist government was established. In 1963, it was renamed again to the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY). This was the largest Yugoslav state, as Istria and Rijeka were added to the new Yugoslavia after the end of World War II. The constituent eight Socialist Republics and Socialist Autonomous Provinces that made up the country, were: SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, SR Croatia, SR Macedonia, SR Montenegro, SR Slovenia and SR Serbia (including the autonomous provinces of SAP Vojvodina and SAP Kosovo which were also equal members of the federation). Starting in 1991, the SFRY disintegrated in the Yugoslav Wars which followed the secession of most of the country's constituent entities.

"I think this discussion is already off-topic. This post isn't about history or international affairs, it's about Google Translate, a great service that lets you translate documents in more than 50 languages. If you think that Macedonian is not a distinct language or the name is not accurate, that's your opinion. As long as it's an officially-recognized language, Google has no right to treat the situation subjectively."

no one said its not a great service.

However since google has an INTERNATIONAL presence, it should RESPECT INTERNATIONAL issues, like the "Macedonia name conflict" between Greece and FYROM which is led by the UN and supported by the US.

According to the UN there is no such name for a country or language.And yes Greece is NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY that denies the existance the term "Macedonian" for FYROM's slavic language.

Please change it to "Macedonian Slavic", as the current name "Macedonian" IS OFFENSIVE for over 3 million MACEDONIANS(Greeks)

Alex Chitu said on August 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT:"Let's say you're from Australia, you write a cool software and then you decide to translate the interface in French, Italian, German and Japanese. And then you get a lot of messages from a country named Macedonia: people want an interface in their own language and they even send you the translation. What do you do? Tell them that Macedonian is not a language?"

Totaly irrelevant Alex

i am sure they can interface with a term like "FYROM slavic" or "Macedonian slavic" until the UN led name conflict is resolved.

or TELL over 3 million Greeks and the world's academics that the a Macedonian language exists and is a Slav language!!!! I am sorry but no INSCRIPTIONS of such a language exists prior to 1945.

@ Alex Chitu there is no country called Macedonia. Macedonia is a prefecture of Greece (for the last 3.000 years!!!)The country in question, is called Fyromacedonia temporarily, until a permanent solution

I call for a world-wide Hellenic boycott of Google and any other related Google programs etc. until this blatant attempt of anti-Hellenism is reversed with an apology- I urge the 20 million Hellenes worldwide to delete their gmail accounts like I will; stop using Google Android and so on to effectively tell Google where it can go for fanning the flames of extremism and expansionism. Henceforth I am instructing family, friends and others to boycott Google and will never use any of their services again.

So why are you upset all of a sudden? Before this update, Google offered a Macedonian version at http://www.google.com/intl/mk/. There's also a Moldovan interface at http://www.google.com/intl/mo/, even if Romanians think that Moldovan is not a distinct language. It's not Google's job to solve the conflicts between different countries.

@Alex Chitu To clarify things. The google has done a great job and deserve congratulations. We complain about the name of the language, which can not be "Macedonian". I think that it is clear and you have already understand that there is a problem with the name by which you name the language. Change the name of the language and everything is ok

I am Macedonian, thus Greek, and I can understand the original Macedonian translation (the real Macedonian, Greek) without the false implementation you have right now (the one you call "macedonian" is a Bulgarian dialekt, fused with Serbian elements) - I would expect google to update that.

Oh good lord, people, take a chill pill. Do you have any idea how utterly provincial your bickering is? It's like Tweedledee and Tweedledum bashing each other upside the head. "Alexander the Great was ours! No, ours! No, ours, you history-distorting poo-poo-heads!! No, ours, you uncivilised ignoramuses!!!" Pathetic all around.

Kiro Gligorov, the 1st President of F.Y.R.O.M. says:“We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century [AD]… we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians, we have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. .“

To everybody who wants to learn about the origin of Macedonians living today in Republic of Macedonia, here it is one scientific answer:

https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40

https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=8

WHEN FACTS SPEAK, EVEN THE GODS ARE SILENT!!!(Or maybe greeks are beyond gods)

As you can clearly see from both links, there are far more Slavs in Greece (20% of 11 mill. population is 2.2 million Slavs) than in Republic of Macedonia (15% of 2.1 mill. is 0.3 mill Slavs), and there is much more stronger genetic link between Antic Macedonians and Macedonians from Republic of Macedonia (30%), rather than link with Greece of only 5%.

Please do not spread your flawed propaganda of genetic tests that have been proven far from scientificaly stable.In fact, those 'genetic' tests you are referring to have been totally rebuffed by the serious scientific world, so please, lets celebrate google's diversity in adding new languages, and stop this ridiculous lies your government feeds you from the day you were born.

It is not Greece/Hellas that suddenly remembered that we have ancient roots.It is not Greece/Hellas who fabricate identities and languages.It is not Greece/Hellas who's governments rename every street, every stadium, every name with historical figures of neighboring countries.

It is not Greece/Hellas, who thinks that Bulgaria and FYRoM ARE ENEMIES!

ON THE CONTRARY, SLAVIC FRIENDS, GREECE WANTS PEACE!, IT IS YOU WHO HATE US, NOT HELLAS!

Google can offer any versions they want. Our problem is not that FYROMians speak a different,a distinct language or some dialect what so ever. Greece recognizes they have their own language.Our problem is the NAME of the language, which is misleading.''

The world should finally learn what kind of bastards are Greeks. This is a good example of that. We Macedonians have no basic human rights in the 21th century precisely because of the Greek fascism! Europe should wake up and end this Greek genocide over Macedonians. It all began in 1913 when Macedonian territory was divided between its neighboring states: Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania. Since than Greece claim Macedonian ancient history, name and identity, showing it in front of the whole world as their own, completely denying the existence of the Macedonian people! Mentioning the name of our country (Macedonia) is the biggest fear for every Greek of this planet because they fear that people will get to the truth, which is Macedonia belongs to the Macedonians, and we are the real Macedonians. They want the past to be forgotten and buried as soon as possible! Well, you can not force us to forget who we really are! The fight will be long, the fight will be eternal! Be prepared Macedonians! Fight for yourself! Fight for what is yours!

By resolution A/RES/47/225 of 8 April 1993, the General Assembly decided to admit as a Member of the United Nations the State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within the United Nations as "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending settlement of the difference that had arisen over its name

Greeks don`t have anything in common with the name “Macedonia“, their name is Greece (or HellAss), so I don`t see any problem for them, unless they want something that is not theirs and belongs to the neighboring country.

Honestly, your country was renamed Macedonia by Tito in 1944 and you guys think that you own the past????

Greece would accept you as Macedonians, YES!!!, if you want to rid yourselves from your Bulgarian roots which you separated from, that is fine!!!Just call yourselves SlavMacedonians or Macedonian Slavs, or something like that.. Separate yourselves from the Greek Macedonians and spare the confussion.

Honestly, it is FYRoM that started this whole petty dispute.

Its in the hands of FYRoM TO END IT, by simply accepting who they really are.

Slavs. Simple.

Is it any wonder that Bulgarians also accuse FYRoM for stealing heritage from them as well??

Correction: Ancient Macedonian kingdom, not Greek kingdom of Macedonia!It was never a Greek kingdom! If it was Greek, than would be “Kingdom of Greece“ not “Kingdom of Macedonia“. As simple as that. Macedonians conquered Greeks in ancient times, and we hate each other since than. But it is so strange that today Greeks are claiming to be Macedonians, since Macedonians were their biggest enemies in antiquity. Alexander the Great is actually Alexander the Macedonian. I do not know why somebody would say that he is Macedonian, if he was a Greek, it does not make any sense, except maybe if he had dual citizenship or ?!

The League of Corinth, also sometimes referred to as Hellenic League (original name: Hellenes - 'The Greeks') was a federation of Greek states created by Philip II of Macedon during the winter of 338 BC/337 BC after the battle of Chaeronea, to facilitate his use of military forces in his war against Persia. The name 'League of Corinth' was coined by modern historians after the first council of the League in Corinth.

Macedonia or Macedon (from Greek: Μακεδονία, Makedonía) was a kingdom in ancient Greece, centered in the northeastern part of the Greek peninsula.[1] The homeland of the ancient Macedonians, it was bordered by the kingdom of Epirus to the west, Paionia to the north, the region of Thrace to the east. and of Thessaly to the south. For a brief period, after the conquests of Alexander the Great, it became the most powerful state in the world, with borders including the whole of Greece and as far as India; at that time it inaugurated the Hellenistic period of history.

Do not be rude! REMEMBER: You will never be Macedonian! Never! And this country will never change its name, no matter what! You will give up sooner or later, cause we will never give up of our name MACEDONIA!

Tito did not gave us the name Macedonia. My grandparents are from Florina (Лерин) and Thessaloniki(Солун), born in 19th century and they are Macedonians, not Bulgarians... Tito did not existed then, but yet the people knew that they are Macedonians.

Dear allI would like to use this opportunity to emphases several points:1. How good is the quality of life in Balkans?2. Do we have an excellent healthcare system?3. Are we able to provide for our children good quality education?4. How big is the level of corruption in our region?5. How long the region is in transition?6. Is this the poorest region in EU?7. How well established are the minorities rights in this region?8. How many people are smiling when they wake up in the morning?9. How big is the rate of unemployed people?10. How big is the pollution etc…These are the issues which have to consider as a priorities. I am pleased to say thanks to our regional leaders, bunch of idiots, who are taking care only for their political rating. At the very end I would like to thank to our neighbors, Greeks and Bulgarians, for the affirmation of our small and beautiful state. Balkanec

A letter has been sent to Google's Mmanagement on the subject logging an official complaint regarding the decision to use the name "Macedonian" for its language translation services.

A technology Company / Business cannot make, nor influence at will international policy contrary to UN Resolutions, especially when it has international reach and operating licences. The official name of the country in question is FYROM, with no specific qualifier for ethnicity nor for language, other than a combination of Slavic, Albanian, Turkish, Roma, and Greek peoples, and a Bulgarian / Serbian dialect and the use of the cyrilic alphabet. Google has been asked to change the name of the language in question to Slavic - FYROM, and await until the dispute is resolved regarding the name issue between Greece and FYROM as well as Bulgaria and Albania.

What kind of macedonians are you calling Thessaloniki "Solun"? Thessaloniki was the name of the daughtr of the Philip II, after which was named the city. You are a fraud!

And greeks don't try to be macedonians, because macedonians were and are greeks, you are those who are trying to make the macedonians slavs.Why Alexander if he wasn't greek, expanded the greek language and the greek civilization and not his own? Your language was made centuries after the real macedonians and you just stole a historical name to get some dignity.

Eugene N. Borza, Macedonia Redux, pp253-260The Macedonian kingdom was absorbed into the roman empire , never to recover its independence.During medievel and modern times, Macedonia was known as a balkan region inhabited by ethnic greeks, Albanians, Vlachs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Jews and Turks.

Tito's imprimatur on a macedonian state was an attempt to counter traditional bulgarian influence in the region of Macedonia.

Modern slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians,cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of theancient macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical slavic factions - mostly emigres in the United States,Canada and Australia - even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.

On the other hand, the Macedonians are a newly emergent people in search for a past to help legimitize their precariouspresent as they attempt to establish their singular identity in a slavic world dominated by serbs and bulgarians.In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the macedonians, who have had no history, need one. They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom which has borne the macedonian name as aregion ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a languagenow recognized by most linguists as a south slavic language.

silly FYROMski wrote"Correction: Ancient Macedonian kingdom, not Greek kingdom of Macedonia!It was never a Greek kingdom! If it was Greek, than would be “Kingdom of Greece“ not “Kingdom of Macedonia“. As simple as that. Macedonians conquered Greeks in ancient times, and we hate each other since than. But it is so strange that today Greeks are claiming to be Macedonians, since Macedonians were their biggest enemies in antiquity. Alexander the Great is actually Alexander the Macedonian. I do not know why somebody would say that he is Macedonian, if he was a Greek, it does not make any sense, except maybe if he had dual citizenship or ?!"

if u cared to open up any hisotry book you would read what the ancient historians, or the Macedonian kings regarded themselves(who knew what they were, way before someone blasted ur brains with crap):

ALEXANDER I, 479BC (Grandfather of Alexander the Great)"For i Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and i would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery."(HERODOTUS IX, 45, 2[Loeb])

"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (ALEXANDER I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably." (HERODOTUS V, 20, 4 [Loeb])

Alexander the Great said to his army - "when they ask you why you fought you will answer...I was here this day in Gaugamela. For the freedom... and the glory of Greece...Zeus be with us.". Why did he say for "the glory of Greece"?

Alexander the Great : "For As Greeks we should not be slaves to barbarians."(Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15.1-4)

if Macedonians hated and conquered the Greeks (like all Greeks did to each other in the past) why did they create the PANHELLENIC LEAGUE? Why spread the Greek culture and LANGUAGE?

If u slavoFYROM clowns bother to read some history u will see that if Macedonians didnt conquer the Greeks in order to unite them, they simply wouldnt be Greeks ;)

To whom it may concern,Google has anounced the introduction of a new language described as "Macedonian", that is incorect. I'm Macedonian and my language is Greek-Ελληνικά, I take great offense that you are using my name to describe a Cyrilic language constructed in 1944 under Yugoslavia and spoken by the majority of the citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (F.Y.R.O.M). The names of the country, ethnicity and language for F.Y.R.O.M are under negotiations led by the UN and fully supported by the U.S, E.U and N.A.T.O.

With respect to the negotiations we believe a name like "F.Y.R Macedonian" would be a fair solution for all sides

WTF do you mean the Macedonian language has many enemies? How can a language have enemies? And why would you even need to mention something like that when posting about new translations? This isn't a political debate, so keep politics out of it.

But if everyone here really wants to argue politics, let me say this. Whether or not Macedonia was or wasn't Slavic before the 6th century is pointless. The fact of the matter is, Slavic peoples migrated to the south, mixed with the native Macedonians, and created a new people. And this new people has the right to call itself whatever it wants and the Greeks have no say in that. They have no right demanding that other cultures change their name because Greece says so. The old Macedonia or Macedon, is gone, it died long ago. So lets stop arguing over history and face the modern day fact that Macedonians do exist, have their own culture, and will continue to exist for many centuries. "Macedonia" as we once knew it, is no longer Greek, but Slavic. The Slavs took over, and the Greeks just have to get use to that. There's 500 million Slavs worldwide and only 12 million Greeks, so if the Greeks really want to start a fight with Macedonia and it's Slav brothers, let them do so, but it will be a battle they will lose.

Well it looks like Greece fails and the superpower Google recognizes Macedonian as a language. Aha, too bad for Greece, they're losing the battle, as expected. You can only suppress a people for so long Greece, then those people start to gather allies and fight back!

“As the representative of the Macedonian government, and having the authority to submit to the Macedonian government and the parliament a problem, in the solution of which your government ought to take part, we, the Macedonians of the United States of America, in our demonstrations and meetings, organized by the Macedonian Revolutionary Organization in the United States of America, on the 16th day of August, 1913, adopted and submit to your government the following resolution-protest:

“Whereas, The Balkan-Turkish war was declared and fought in the name of the freedom of Macedonia and the Christians in Turkey of Europe, in which war we, the Macedonians, fought most vigorously and with our help Turkey was defeated;

“Whereas, The end of this Balkan-Turkish war was not the freedom of Macedonia, but most generous division of our country and people between Servia and Greece, and our nation was compelled to submit to the Servian and the Greek governments, a government more tyrannical than the Turkish government; and

“Whereas, The Servian and the Greek governments now kill our fathers and our brothers, despoil the virtue and honor of our sisters, mothers and wives, and molest our children, all of which inhuman acts aim at the entire destruction of our national existence in Macedonia, and

“Whereas, The present unjust division of our country was caused by the European diplomacy, and if the same exists in future there will always be internal revolutions and disturbances which will keep all the Balkan states in readiness for war and might throw all the European powers in disastrous clash;

“Whereas, The peace in the Balkans is only the freedom based on the principle: ‘ Macedonia for the Macedonians.’

“We, the Macedonians in the United States of America , with all the vigor in us, protest against the unjust division of Macedonia and the tyranny of the Servian and Greek governments in Macedonia ;

“We appeal to the European powers to declare the conference in Bucharest , Roumainia, between the representatives of the Balkan states unjust, and to demand autonomy of Macedonia ;

“We declare to all the nations of the world, that if the freedom of Macedonia is not granted soon, we will continue our struggle and fight for the freedom of our country, and we will all die or become free. We cry: ‘Give us freedom or give us death.’”