i have not looked into it .....just dont want to go there after a month of getting the parts and machine work done,and building the motor .so i spent the day making Garys F-20 wings and vert,...and built a race track for my Grandson to drive his R/C car on ...i almost took my Tractor to that subyoh well it's only money

I'm definitely coming through SoCal in mid-February. The mission will be to hide my wifes Amex so i still have some space in my luggage to hopefully bring a F-20 (and maybe 2) home.

Sorry J, I missed this one.

Here's what I posted earlier in the SAPAC Viper thread.....

I don't have a timeline yet. So I'm not accepting pre orders.
The Retracts are supposed to be "in testing" at this point. I have photos of the retracts, but I'm not authorized to share them at this point.
I sent and inquiry email regarding the ARF airframe kits, retracts and brakes after my last post. I'll buy some ARF kits in small qtys if possible.

man wish i had a set to test ...but i guess im going to be very busy doing F-20 lay ups ....with my day job getting in the way it is going to take about a week just to make all the parts ,maybe it will go faster once i've done a few.having lazer cut parts will speed up wing assembly ,i have a hot box too to cure the vacuum bagged parts faster as my shop is not heated and the vacuum set up need my air compressor to run,im going to get the assembly line rolling during my holidays between Christmas and new years.

man wish i had a set to test ...but i guess im going to be very busy doing F-20 lay ups ....with my day job getting in the way it is going to take about a week just to make all the parts ,maybe it will go faster once i've done a few.having lazer cut parts will speed up wing assembly ,i have a hot box too to cure the vacuum bagged parts faster as my shop is not heated and the vacuum set up need my air compressor to run,im going to get the assembly line rolling during my holidays between Christmas and new years.

I sent you some propietary info regarding the electric retracts. You should be happy with the dimensions. They are not for public release.
The depth is 2.5 mm more than the original pneumatics. This may be a problem.
I don't have any in my hand yet, so i'm not sure if want to consider making more room (if it's even possible) or not. It's out of my hands.
We (you) designed the wing for the original pneumatics.

the wing are not weak there a composite sanwhich of 2 outer layers ,a core material ,then another layer of fiberglass,there is also some C/F cloth added in the landing gear area ,and kevlar hinges. the spar is .254" c/f ,so far the wings have been super strong. planing on flying it at the basin fri or sat before the new year.hope to have garys done by then so i can start on the production run