Monday, February 22, 2010

Witch Hunts

Unhappy people at IAD? What's going on there?

It's no rumor. One of IAD agents has turned on IAD prior to her retirement. She had an audience with the Supt and McMasters' telling them about the ills. As a result, sgts must leave to-froms justifying their reasons for being there. This is only the beginning.

Or this one:

Oh I'm hoping that someone hears the Iad Retiree and makes major changes. Too bad she came forward so late about the bs that goes on over there.

A very well known law firm has just been retained by a po who just came back to work and is now being messed with again.

Stop those witch-hunts that have been coming out of IAD.

It's not like IAD is running illegal First Amendment investigations in violation of Department Policy, General Orders, and existing Federal Consent Decrees concerning protected speech by citizens, is it? Anyone want to answer that one? Maybe a former Lt. assigned to Unit 121?

since you're hinting at a supposed never happened in the first place 1st amendment investigation, wouldn't that be subject to an FOIA request? say by a newsmedia outlet looking at CPD compliance with the proper police purpose threshold. Especially if someone got dumped over it(even though it never happened)!

MOST of the people at IAD give the sworn personnel way more credibility than the citizens and go out of their way to help the police. Others believe that the police are always wrong. She is one of the latter and will jam a copper faster than anybody else up there. She hasn't been on the street in the past 10 years and is just causing some shit before she leaves. I can't believe they even gave the goof an audience but then again the people that gave her the audience are goofs themselves. JFED and Masters

Sorry, SCCn but I don't see that we have anything to worry about here. Everyone and their Mama knows that the only decent investigations IAD does are the ones dropped in their laps by the Feds that they stumble upon while making cases against real bad guys. They should just hang a sign over the doors of IAD that reads 'Sloths Inc.' Remember the sloth is an animal that spends up to 80% of it's time sleeping upside down in a tree.

No need to get your panties in a bunch! Everyone knows that IAD is headed up by two handpicked, capable men, both former Feds, at the cmdr level (Climas) and Deputy Supt (Brust) by our illustrious Supt. If there were any chinks in IAD's armor, it would have been spotted by now and corrective actions would have been taken.Trust me on this!

About 12 years ago a guy I worked with in patrol went to IAD. He thought he would do invetigative work and get a leg up for advancement.He was not raised in Chicago and was naive about the way things work here and actually thought he could do some good for himself and the job.We tried to school him, but some things you have to learn the hard way.

I ran in to him when he was back in patrol and he told me IAD was the worst experience of his life. He lasted about 6 months and had to really fight to get out,and thought about leaving the job. He started having serious medical problems and losing his hair.

He said the Sgt's and Lt's had more intrest in personal vendettas of their own or one's requested by supervisors outside the unit than stopping actual criminal activity since that might involve a protected supervisor looking bad. He told me that when he questioned a supervisors motives he was told they could easily make allegations and start an investigation on him. It was just safer to go after people they hated who had no clout.

MOST of the people at IAD give the sworn personnel way more credibility than the citizens and go out of their way to help the police. Others believe that the police are always wrong. She is one of the latter and will jam a copper faster than anybody else up there. She hasn't been on the street in the past 10 years and is just causing some shit before she leaves. I can't believe they even gave the goof an audience but then again the people that gave her the audience are goofs themselves. JFED and Masters

2/22/2010 12:34:00 AM

Agreed 110%! This woman is the epitome ( if you are Dana Starks, that rhymes with "epi-dome" ) of why the working coppers hate IAD! She tried like hell to sustain everything, and spoke to coppers like children.

Just another one of the entitled women in that unit that think they should have the world handed to them. Or at least a promotion.

She tried to force Cline to make all the "police agents" into Detectives, he laughed at her.

She trashed Juan Rivera in a letter to the Supe. That should tell you all you need to know about this vile goof. Rivera is the best thing to happen to that unit, especially for the coppers who may make a mistake but their heart was in the right place.

Trust me, her beefing had nothing to do with the outcome of clout heavy cases.

On that subject, I wish you guys would realize that those cases get "fixed" after they leave IAD's hands. Command Channel Review, Police Board, the Supe himself.

When you promote idiots because of who they know/ blow/ are related to you are going to have some problems.

2/22/2010 04:21:00 AM

We take offense to that last remark, but we can see why you might think that.

Keep in mind things are slow up north. She needs to keep busy, and as hard as I try not to interfere, problems still happen. She has it in her head that vendettas are the way to go. I don't want any friction and always keep out of it, but damn it if her intrigues aren't the bomb.

To the whining IAD sergeant too fucking bad your secrets out maybe you'll have to do some real police work. And to bad that the agent didn’t have the balls to say something sooner. We all know that the sergeants are the ones that stick it to you by making the penalty suggestions not the agents. And if the agent that is retiring is the one that helped me and my partner out then I’m sorry to see her go, at least you knew you were getting a fair investigation with her not like IPRA.

Wait; the comments say she's worked there for ten years? And where were her ETHICS the past nine? If she didn't report anything the past nine years (just hiding out and covering her own ass), then she should get a boot and a buh-bye now. What a waste of air some people are.

If someone steps on the toes of an investigator(Police AGent), or a sgt, etc, at any point in their career, then when that names comes across their desk, its payback time!This is pretty evident given some of the cases that are being sustained.

So are they going tell why they dropped the investigation regarding the condo that was owned by an an exempt where they found drugs and guns? That it happened to be a condo where an exempt's daughter lived with her boyfriend? Whatever happened to that investigation?????

If the Police can't trust their own Internal affairs to be fair and impartial w/o clout then how can the public actually trust the POLICE???Federal Monitor for IAD???Another step closer to Federal oversight?WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE CLOUT, PATRONAGE, NEPOTISM AT ALL COSTS!!!

Speaking of privacy issues, a bit off topic, but what is up with the medical integrity unit pulling into alleys to snoop on people. There was a call in 008 a few weeks ago about a suspicious person in the alley going back and forth to their car. It was a "Department Investigator" per the beat car who coded the job. Do we not have the right to privacy in our home, in our yard etc?

You, LS, worked in IAD for over 10 years and now decide to complain about IAD. Unfortunately, it's sour grapes and taken as such. Anyone who ever listened to this miserable person dismissed her as such. Go retire and realize your career was a waste of your time and the city's.

Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light.How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action.An action that would cover:Cases sustained that should have never been to begin withlack of trained investigators at iadmalicious/go after that cop/witch huntsstacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might sticklack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well..sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer?These are just a few examples.DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices?Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!

Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light.How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action.An action that would cover:Cases sustained that should have never been to begin withlack of trained investigators at iadmalicious/go after that cop/witch huntsstacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might sticklack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well..sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer?These are just a few examples.DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices?Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!

I am not a police officer the wife of one. I have read this blog since my husband became a police officer 7 years ago and have for the most part enjoyed reading it. But this time the things that I have read here have made me fearful for my husband’s safety. The hatred that some of you have written is very disturbing and I worry that you won’t be there when he needs you. The sergeant from internal investigations seems to me to be a brave officer for coming forward. Some of you have said that she should have done it sooner, but seeing the hatred and complaint coming from the people she is trying to help would be enough to make me turn and run. Some of you have issues with her and the way she has done her job to that I will say what my mother always said to me. There are three sides to every story, yours theirs, and the truth. My husband has had problems and has been investigated by them he even has been suspended but I am proud of him because he was a man and admitted that he did wrong, to me he is a hero. Please officers as you bury one of your own take the time to examine your hearts and do what is right.

new rumor in iad is that advocate section is going bye bye and all the agents in the advocate section are going to confidential investigations to work on the call out team! they are getting take home cars and phones! HA! cry baby sergeants over there will have no more take home cars

A CR should be obtained on her for inattention to duty as she is complaining that she observed improprieties going on for years and now she reports it.A quick investigation, sustain the CR and 30 days pending.

'He's actually doing a decent job. And he's worlds better than the last person to hold the job - she was a complete and utter psycho.'

Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved. They wanted someone down therethat could be controlled.Rivera's a nice guy, but hewon't ever stand up in a boatonce it has sailed.

Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light. How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action. An action that would cover: Cases sustained that should have never been to begin with lack of trained investigators at iad malicious/go after that cop/witch hunts stacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might stick lack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well.. sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer? These are just a few examples. DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices? Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!

2/23/2010 06:57:00 AM

count me in 100% just tell me where and when.

2/23/2010 12:24:00 PM

What are you suggesting? I am definitely in and know several individuals who feel very strongly about this issue.

We definitely need legal guidance on this one before doing anything rash. If we stand united and move together they will have to revamp the disciplinary process.

Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved. They wanted someone down therethat could be controlled.Rivera's a nice guy, but hewon't ever stand up in a boatonce it has sailed.

You got that right. Everybody knows she was moved when she got CRs on the Chief of Staff and another high ranking exempt.

Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved.They wanted someone down therethat could be controlled.Rivera's a nice guy, but hewon't ever stand up in a boatonce it has sailed.

setnrecstr81@aol.com is the email addy you can use to contact me. We can meet and discuss our options of going after the department civilly and finally putting an end to the injustice brought upon many department members by some of the IAD investigators and supervisors.Lets take this one step further and stop talking and start doing...

Masters had Skahill moved because she initiated the number on him for carrying a gun (Hamilton's) on New Years Eve. He has now bought and registered his own handgun and M4 with the superintendents permission. What a joke. I wish the media would get this

setnrecstr81@aol.com is the email addy you can use to contact me. We can meet and discuss our options of going after the department civilly and finally putting an end to the injustice brought upon many department members by some of the IAD investigators and supervisors.Lets take this one step further and stop talking and start doing...

Can you get this email addy out to folks so we can see if people have legitimate gripes about violations with IAD please. You have it from my earlier post. Maybe on something more current .setnrecstr81@aol.com

Says one of the clout crybabies in IAD who now has to prove how he got assigned there.

I'd bet my next check that the negative comments about the whistleblower are from those who are pissed off that because she told the truth they may actually get dumped back into the real world of Patrol.

In all these comments there is one thing missing: what she told J-fed and McMasters that wasn't true. We all know she didn't exactly keep it a secret she had the meeting and what she intended to say. And she offered all an opportunity to give her a list of complaints.

Classic case of character assination to divert attention from the truth.