Poorest states per capita in this country voted for Romney. The deep south. Richest states per capita voted for Obama. New England.

I don't get it. If the arguement is true, rich folks vote against their interests and poor folks are dumb as hell.

Maybe, just maybe, that wasn't it at all.

I agree on the womens rights stuff... 1950s anti contraceptives language is a good place to start in evaluating what went wrong. And I'm not sure there is a good way to get "rape press"

Many states vote a certain way out of habit or "it's the way it's always been". My mother was a democrat and they could have run the worst of the worst politician and my mother would have voted for him.....Why? Because she was a democrat. There is no perfect candidate. You just have to go with the one that you hope sticks with the campaign promises made.

Many states vote a certain way out of habit or "it's the way it's always been". My mother was a democrat and they could have run the worst of the worst politician and my mother would have voted for him.....Why? Because she was a democrat. There is no perfect candidate. You just have to go with the one that you hope sticks with the campaign promises made.

So that's why the republicans lost? The "way it's always been" is how people voted? I'm not buying it.

The "class warfare" thing, while an arguement can be made... It's a weak one and didn't cost romney the election. The poorest of the poor voted for him

I believe, and it's just my opinion, republicans have some problems with social issues. Solve that and a whole lot of those blue states, and their money that they WANT to protect, will follow suit.

We agree here. I haven't heard the clip, but if any news persona on either side, said a devastating hurricane that killed 100+ Americans was a good thing...

Fire him. Now.

And with the noreaster on the way. What a DBag

I think some of these media types become so enamored of themselves that they believe they can say or do no wrong. And in a way they're right. CM will keep his job. Just like the nitwit on CNN who tried to pass off some writings as his that were really written by someone else. He got caught and after a little vacation came back with CNN. His ass should have been fired. That's a huge no no for a reporter/commentator.

So that's why the republicans lost? The "way it's always been" is how people voted? I'm not buying it.

The "class warfare" thing, while an arguement can be made... It's a weak one and didn't cost romney the election. The poorest of the poor voted for him

I believe, and it's just my opinion, republicans have some issues with reaching out on social issues. Solve that and a whole lot of those blue states, and their money that they WANT to protect, will follow suit.

I think religion had an impact also. The bible belt is not exactly progressive on some issues like gay marriage, etc.. Though I still believe that many states traditionally vote a certain way.

I wasn't just talking about gay marriage (and I'm too tired to go there again, I think you guys should just keep on keepin on with the republican plan on that)

Womens rights, immigration, entitlements like Medicare(caid), social security. You got HAMMERED on all that.

Yes, Romney didn't say what the people wanted to hear about those issues. He was weak on women's rights and the religious influences that don't support women's rights was strong. As to immigration, I believe Obama was holding out the carrot of citizenship and it got him votes. The latino vote went for Obama for that reason. Obama fed what the people wanted to hear. Can he deliver? The money isn't there for new programs. We can't even pay for our old programs. SS/Medicare/Medicaid are in bad shape now. There are going to have to cut somewhere. No one wants to hear that but it is unrealistic to assume there will be ample funding for these in the future especially with all the baby boomers retiring.

Yes, Romney didn't say what the people wanted to hear about those issues. He was weak on women's rights and the religious influences that don't support women's rights was strong. As to immigration, I believe Obama was holding out the carrot of citizenship and it got him votes. The latino vote went for Obama for that reason. Obama fed what the people wanted to hear. Can he deliver? The money isn't there for new programs. We can't even pay for our old programs. SS/Medicare/Medicaid are in bad shape now. There are going to have to cut somewhere. No one wants to hear that but it is unrealistic to assume there will be ample funding for these in the future especially with all the baby boomers retiring.

It's easy to promise....much more difficult to deliver.

I agree... But if you disenfranchise groups of people and act like an a$$hole, no one gonna is vote for you to fix the problem.

I will never vote for a republican. Republicans hate me. What they should REALLY do is make MORE groups of people feel just like me. Latinos, the elderly, etc..

Just like there is no good "rape press", making old people who paid into SS and Medicare feel like they would be welfare recipients... Bad plan.

Y'all need to reapproach.

Again... The WEALTHIEST STATES didn't vote for Romney. Seems like they should have, huh? If it was class warfare and the poor stealing from the rich?

Who votes to have their money stolen?

I explained about the bible belt. They tend to vote republican. That was his strength. Then there always is the traditional vote. You're basing your argument on one fact. If you look at the voting history of many states you'd see that they vote the same way in each election. They don't vote the candidate or the issues so much as the history. If this election suddenly had the wealthiest states voting for Obama than your point could be made. Some states to swing either way. But there are many states that vote one way and have for years.

I explained about the bible belt. They tend to vote republican. That was his strength. Then there always is the traditional vote. You're basing your argument on one fact. If you look at the voting history of many states you'd see that they vote the same way in each election. They don't vote the candidate or the issues so much as the history. If this election suddenly had the wealthiest states voting for Obama than your point could be made. Some states to swing either way. But there are many states that vote one way and have for years.

In this election Obama wanted to make like a Robin Hood. It got him the votes of people who actually believe by taking more in taxes from people making over $250,000 their problems will be solved. That the financial problems of this country will be solved. I listened to a speech he was making somewhere and he got a huge round of applause because he said he just wanted to have the rich pay a little more.

In this election Obama wanted to make like a Robin Hood. It got him the votes of people who actually believe by taking more in taxes from people making over $250,000 their problems will be solved. That the financial problems of this country will be solved. I listened to a speech he was making somewhere and he got a huge round of applause because he said he just wanted to have the rich pay a little more.

It should be so simple.

and look who he is defining as rich. Many of his constituent households in high paycheck/high cost of living states like California and New York.

"and I'm gunna ask the rich to pay a little more (interpreted: I'm going to tax the rich; double interpreted: I'm going to tax the upper middle class and the rich)"