The oriental orthodox were persecuted by the byzantine empire and there have been reports of harassment against protestants in modern day Russia.

There was a norwegian christian king who lived around the time of the great schism who once executed a pagan chief by forcing him to eat a living snake which then ate a hole in his stomack from the inside.

I have heard of protestants being kidnapped in Ethiopia, something about land ownership and conversion to evangelicalism(at least according to Open Doors).

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Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.

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A number of evangelists among the Germanic peoples did. St Boniface cut down the holy oak tree of Thor, and St Willibrord slaughtered the sacred cattle of Fosite. Both (and undoubtedly many others) baptized people in springs dedicated to various pagan gods.

The Frankish kings encouraged forced conversion, partly (mostly?) to expand their empire. But still, it bore fruit in the form of native missionary priests, martyrs, and the explosive growth of monasteries.

Seid was normally only practiced by women. It was considered socially unacceptable for men to practice Seid and if they were discovered they were often tortured or killed.In the older Edda, Loki and odin accuses each other for being an ergi(effeminate, transvestite), Loki beacuse he turned himself into a mare and mated with the stallion Svadilfari and thereby giving birth to Sleipnir, and Odin because he is a Seid priest.

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Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.

There was a norwegian christian king who lived around the time of the great schism who once executed a pagan chief by forcing him to eat a living snake which then ate a hole in his stomack from the inside.

I can assure you this is a myth to some degree.

1. Snakes require oxygen just like any other animal and could not survive in a stomach full of liquids.2. Stomach acid would kill it (especially as it entered the snake's lungs and burned the sensitive tissue).3. Snakes can bite things but they can't bite flesh out of things, which is why they constrict or poison their prey then swallow it whole.

A number of evangelists among the Germanic peoples did. St Boniface cut down the holy oak tree of Thor, and St Willibrord slaughtered the sacred cattle of Fosite. Both (and undoubtedly many others) baptized people in springs dedicated to various pagan gods.

The Frankish kings encouraged forced conversion, partly (mostly?) to expand their empire. But still, it bore fruit in the form of native missionary priests, martyrs, and the explosive growth of monasteries.

And before anyone feels ashamed about that, remember the Germanic peoples sacrificed people and hung them from those trees. I like trees but I'm not going to apologize for a second about cutting one down that was the center of an evil cultus.

There was a norwegian christian king who lived around the time of the great schism who once executed a pagan chief by forcing him to eat a living snake which then ate a hole in his stomack from the inside.

I can assure you this is a myth to some degree.

1. Snakes require oxygen just like any other animal and could not survive in a stomach full of liquids.2. Stomach acid would kill it (especially as it entered the snake's lungs and burned the sensitive tissue).3. Snakes can bite things but they can't bite flesh out of things, which is why they constrict or poison their prey then swallow it whole.

It probably is. That a Seid priest should be a respected land owner and at the same time practice Seid is highly unlikely. However it is still a fact that olaf Tryggvason forced many people to be baptized.

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Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.

A number of evangelists among the Germanic peoples did. St Boniface cut down the holy oak tree of Thor, and St Willibrord slaughtered the sacred cattle of Fosite. Both (and undoubtedly many others) baptized people in springs dedicated to various pagan gods.

The Frankish kings encouraged forced conversion, partly (mostly?) to expand their empire. But still, it bore fruit in the form of native missionary priests, martyrs, and the explosive growth of monasteries.

And before anyone feels ashamed about that, remember the Germanic peoples sacrificed people and hung them from those trees. I like trees but I'm not going to apologize for a second about cutting one down that was the center of an evil cultus.

Oh definitely. Sometimes extreme measures were necessary to break through the hard shell of pure demonic evil that surrounded those cultures. And actually, the pagan kings were often amazed by their fearlessness and respected them for it.

Now Olaf the Stout was the one who was Christian and according to the saga won a disputed bit of land in a dice game by throwing 13. But that's a different tale.

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Strange that Raud the strong was a Seid priest.

How so? And I'll still check the saga when I get a chance.

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Olaf I Trygvasson was also Christian. The kings of Norway had been Christian for several generations before Olaf I. Olaf I (not to be confused with St. Olaf II, the martyr, who came two kings later, IIRC) evangelized Iceland by threatening to invade it and put the pagans to the sword. They were soon baptized in the thermal lagoons and emerged as lukewarm Christians.

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The oriental orthodox were persecuted by the byzantine empire and there have been reports of harassment against protestants in modern day Russia.

There was a norwegian christian king who lived around the time of the great schism who once executed a pagan chief by forcing him to eat a living snake which then ate a hole in his stomack from the inside.

I have heard of protestants being kidnapped in Ethiopia, something about land ownership and conversion to evangelicalism(at least according to Open Doors).

It might go both ways. There are Protestant cults in Ethiopia which kidnap people, and then their families kidnap them back.

stay blessed,habte selassie

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"Yet stand aloof from stupid questionings and geneologies and strifes and fightings about law, for they are without benefit and vain." Titus 3:10

I found it. Now when I look at it again, I can see that it is very protestant minded(they talk as if the ethiopian church doesn't believe in Christ) but I still think it's worth reading.

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Former Orthodox priest kidnapped because he said yes to Jesus

22-11-2002Etiopien It is common that the Orthodox church in Ethiopia do not accept that its members switch to another denomination.

In early August 2002, an Orthodox priest, Fasilo (fictional name) from Arba Minch in the southern part of Ethiopia, accepted Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. When the Orthodox community found out that he had accepted Jesus, Fasilo was kidnapped and held captive.

Members of the local evangelical church in Arba Minch shared the gospel with him. Their message touched his heart and he decided to give his life to Christ.

After his conversion Fasilo received training in secret by church leaders from the Evangelical Church. When they had completed the first month's tuition, said Fasilo that he understood the gospel well enough, and that he should worship Jesus openly. A week after he had taken this decision, the congregation gathered for prayer and worship. Fasilo was among them. While they prayed, came an unknown number of people into the church and went straight to Fasilo, who at the time kneeled in prayer. They took him by force and left the church.

According to the source, who testified about this incident Fasilo was "kidnapped". None of the members of the congregation tried to help him because they were afraid of these dangerous men.

After the kidnapping, the pastor and some of the oldest of the Evangelical Church reported the incident to the police. The Orthodox leaders also took a similar time going to the police and gave their version of what had happened, but went a step further by accusing the evangelicals to "kidnap their members." According to the source, members of the Orthodox Church locked Fasilo inside a small room. Although they told police about the place, he is still locked.

The priest and one of the students at our local courses had to go to court to defend himself against the accusation, that they kidnapped members of the Orthodox Church. Including the authorities asked them to give up names of people who would provide security for them, which is a kind of guarantee system you use in Ethiopia. Since they could not disclose the required number of names, they were both jailed for 5 and 7 days.

The case is still pending, and the members of the Orthodox Church still holds Fasilo in captivity. According to the source, the evangelicals Fasilo have not been not seen since the kidnapping, and police members were also members of the Orthodox Church, which has united with "not to find him."

The oriental orthodox were persecuted by the byzantine empire and there have been reports of harassment against protestants in modern day Russia.

There was a norwegian christian king who lived around the time of the great schism who once executed a pagan chief by forcing him to eat a living snake which then ate a hole in his stomack from the inside.

I have heard of protestants being kidnapped in Ethiopia, something about land ownership and conversion to evangelicalism(at least according to Open Doors).

I don't know about persecution of Protestants in Ethiopia. But I have heard of desecration of Orthodox churches by Protestant missionaries and converts. Again, equal hearsay

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I found it. Now when I look at it again, I can see that it is very protestant minded(they talk as if the ethiopian church doesn't believe in Christ) but I still think it's worth reading.

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Former Orthodox priest kidnapped because he said yes to Jesus

22-11-2002Etiopien It is common that the Orthodox church in Ethiopia do not accept that its members switch to another denomination.

In early August 2002, an Orthodox priest, Fasilo (fictional name) from Arba Minch in the southern part of Ethiopia, accepted Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. When the Orthodox community found out that he had accepted Jesus, Fasilo was kidnapped and held captive.

Members of the local evangelical church in Arba Minch shared the gospel with him. Their message touched his heart and he decided to give his life to Christ.

After his conversion Fasilo received training in secret by church leaders from the Evangelical Church. When they had completed the first month's tuition, said Fasilo that he understood the gospel well enough, and that he should worship Jesus openly. A week after he had taken this decision, the congregation gathered for prayer and worship. Fasilo was among them. While they prayed, came an unknown number of people into the church and went straight to Fasilo, who at the time kneeled in prayer. They took him by force and left the church.

According to the source, who testified about this incident Fasilo was "kidnapped". None of the members of the congregation tried to help him because they were afraid of these dangerous men.

After the kidnapping, the pastor and some of the oldest of the Evangelical Church reported the incident to the police. The Orthodox leaders also took a similar time going to the police and gave their version of what had happened, but went a step further by accusing the evangelicals to "kidnap their members." According to the source, members of the Orthodox Church locked Fasilo inside a small room. Although they told police about the place, he is still locked.

The priest and one of the students at our local courses had to go to court to defend himself against the accusation, that they kidnapped members of the Orthodox Church. Including the authorities asked them to give up names of people who would provide security for them, which is a kind of guarantee system you use in Ethiopia. Since they could not disclose the required number of names, they were both jailed for 5 and 7 days.

The case is still pending, and the members of the Orthodox Church still holds Fasilo in captivity. According to the source, the evangelicals Fasilo have not been not seen since the kidnapping, and police members were also members of the Orthodox Church, which has united with "not to find him."

In early August 2002, an Orthodox priest, Fasilo (fictional name) from Arba Minch in the southern part of Ethiopia, accepted Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. When the Orthodox community found out that he had accepted Jesus, Fasilo was kidnapped and held captive.

Members of the local evangelical church in Arba Minch shared the gospel with him. Their message touched his heart and he decided to give his life to Christ.

This article makes me sick to my stomach. "Heard the gospel.. accepted Jesus.. give his life to Christ.." what do we do in the Church exactly, sacrifice our children to Molech and worship the Devil? This is pure garbage with a clear agenda to smear the Church!!

Like I said, there are Protestant cults in Ethiopia which either brainwash or bribe (or both) many people to leave their Orthodox Christian families. This "article" clearly has a Protestant bias in that is said that "he accepted Jesus" as if in the Orthodox Church we worship the devil!! Lord have His mercy..

They make us out to be the bad guy, but in Ethiopia it is them who are the villains. Again, they lure away poor people with bribes of food and drink and other material gifts, and then they brainwash them to go entirely against their families, against the Church, to join their cults. Not all Pentecostals and Lutherans in Ethiopia are cults, many are sincere and also work in Muslim and "animist" areas. However, there are some groups with a sick agenda and are quite literally cults. I have known of incidents like the one in the article personally, and the people were victims. They were brainwashed and kidnapped, just like what happens here in the United States with cults, and the families with the help of priests and members of the Church have to kidnap our family back from these devils. I don't have beef with Pentes, but these cults are dangerous.

stay blessed,Habte Selassie

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"Yet stand aloof from stupid questionings and geneologies and strifes and fightings about law, for they are without benefit and vain." Titus 3:10

Well the Bulgarians were very zealous at destroying the last remnants of Latin christianity in the Balkans in the XIII century or so. One story has it that they were cutting the tongues of the priests that "read Latin".

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She hears, upon that water without sound, A voice that cries, “The tomb in Palestine Is not the porch of spirits lingering. It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay.” We live in an old chaos of the sun, Or old dependency of day and night, Or island solitude, unsponsored, free, Of that wide water, inescapable.

Well the Bulgarians were very zealous at destroying the last remnants of Latin christianity in the Balkans in the XIII century or so. One story has it that they were cutting the tongues of the priests that "read Latin".

OMG- Human beings can still choose to live according to their fallen natures no matter how perfect their religion!

That's why I gave up eating cooked food after mamma burned the biscuits that one morning....

Well the Bulgarians were very zealous at destroying the last remnants of Latin christianity in the Balkans in the XIII century or so. One story has it that they were cutting the tongues of the priests that "read Latin".

OMG- Human beings can still choose to live according to their fallen natures no matter how perfect their religion!

That's why I gave up eating cooked food after mamma burned the biscuits that one morning....

Pax,David

I'm still eating cooked food. But the fact is that the Bulgarians imposed the Slavonic rite on the Vlachs.

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She hears, upon that water without sound, A voice that cries, “The tomb in Palestine Is not the porch of spirits lingering. It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay.” We live in an old chaos of the sun, Or old dependency of day and night, Or island solitude, unsponsored, free, Of that wide water, inescapable.