Polls show nation is waking up

Piers Akerman

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Monday,
February,
04,
2013,(8:23am)

The two polls released overnight reveal that at this moment, the Australian electorate has tumbled to Julia Gillard’s disgraceful leadership.

A majority of voters do not believe her reasons for announcing the 227-day run-up to the unofficial “this is not a campaign” election date.

Voters have flipped from their views recorded during the January holiday period.

No-one should ever have bothered with those figures.

The Australian newspaper’s Newspoll puts Labor’s primary support at 32 per cent - a wipeout of the six-point gain recorded between December and January - as the Coalition’s support rose four percentage points to 48 per cent in the past three weeks.

With the Greens steady on 9 per cent and “others” going from 9 per cent to 11 per cent since the poll in January, the two-party-preferred figure has the Coalition back with a huge election-winning lead of 56 per cent to 44 per cent.

Labor’s primary vote is back to the level it was at the end of the parliamentary year in December, and the Coalition’s primary support is the highest since July last year. On a two-party-preferred basis, using preference flows at the 2010 election, the Coalition has its biggest lead since July.

The Galaxy poll published in The Daily Telegraph and other News Limited newspapers today puts Labor’s support at 35 per cent and the Coalition’s at 48 per cent.

That gives a two-party-preferred lead for the Coalition of 54 per cent to 46 per cent.
Apart from the party votes, the Newspoll reveals the biggest shift in sentiment in the past three weeks has occurred on the question of who would be the better prime minister, with Gillard’s clear, six-month lead over Opposition leader Tony Abbott coming to end as she announced the election.

Gillard’s support as preferred prime minister fell four percentage points from 45 per cent to 41 per cent, while Abbott’s support rose six points from 33 per cent to 39 per cent.

The two-point lead in Gillard’s favour is the closest the two leaders have been since September last year. Gillard’s 41 per cent is the lowest since August last year and Abbott’s 39 per cent is the highest he has had since July last year.

The national phone poll of 1015 voters shows that Labor’s primary vote is at 35 per cent - down three points from the 38 per cent achieved at the 2010 election.

Support for the Coalition has climbed from 43.6 per cent at the last election to 48 per cent. The Greens, facing their first poll under new leader Christine Milne, have dipped from 11.8 to 10 per cent.

Which is all good news for those anxious to see the back of this Labor-Green-Independent minority government.

Today, Gillard will traipse to Yarralumla for a photo session with the Governor General and to watch nine new ministers and parliamentary secretaries get sworn in.

Her presence in the photo will be a reminder of the shambolic government Australia has endured since the 2010 elections.

Politics is in a state of flux.

Each week, if not each day, there will be a reminder of union corruption, Labor’s ties to the union movement, and the many failures of the Gillard government.

The Marxist Julia Gillard knows that every day she remains in power more private capital is being destroyed.

Every day she stays in power the harder it will be for a new government to repair the damage.

Davo 7 replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:23am)

Not in her DNA Argyle.

Julia always gets her own way her mother told the nation
some years ago.

Chaos all round , increasing chaos, as the street fighters
ensconced in government led by a woman who has always
put herself and her personal agenda first.

Game on Argyle a messy cynical game being played merrely
so Gillard can remain in the Lodge and the PM.

A government in serious disarray ignoring the wishes of the
people as they have from day one in 2007 under Rudd and
esculating under Gillard .

Piers tells us the people have “woken up” to this government

I say the people have been wide awake and alarmed for
quite some years which is why Rudd got the boot and Gillard
only managed to survive due to the betrayal of Oakeshot
and Windsor.

P.J. replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:24am)

Unfortunately, My Lord, Ms. Gillard has always placed herself First, and appealing to her better nature would take nothing short of a Miracle! Knowing her fate, as she must, then any sane person would take this opportunity to leave with grace and dignity!

Pericles replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:29am)

Gillard cares for no one but herself.

And especially the people of Australia
for whom she has demonstrated nothing
but contempt.

Australia she, and her government, regard as
their own private fiefdom to do with as they
will and have and will continue to do so until
removed by voters at the coming election.

Gillard is clinging to the wreckage of her sinking
ship. The ship she and her government scuttled
by their sordid and squalid games, arrogance,
spin and refusal to do what is right and correct
for this country.

David of Emerald replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:37am)

Quite so LA.

And the figures are about what Rudd was getting when Gillard did the assassination on him.

Parliament resumes tomorrow and sits until the 14th. Its the last chance the alp has of dumping the o’lemons Gillard/McTurnip to stave off utter annihilation in the 2013 election.

The coalition has done the smart thing in giving Thomson a pair so he can attend court. His appearance or not is more damming evidence of union/alp corruption.

fay of perth replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:14am)

Hi my’Lud
this present unelected prime minister is simply no good.
She haas to be pole-axed.
The longer she stays in office the more disasters and problems she will vindictively plan to leave to Tony Abbott. and the LNP to try to mend and sort out.
She is not going to go quietly It is not in her paranoid nature

Cons Observer replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:20am)

Gillard has no “better nature” she’s a woman with a huge
chip on her shoulder demonstrated by her determined
wrecking of her adopted country.

Gillards father had huge resentment because he considered
he was denied the opportunities he deserved because his
parents had a large family and were unable to prove for
him in the way he thought was his right.

Gillard has been raised on this resentment of those
Gillard Elder blamed for his “missing out” and oh boy
is she revelling and making good use of her chance at
score settling and payback.

How in the hell did Australia find itself in the hands of someone
like arrogant, revengful, mendacious, whatever it takes
Gillard and now Tony Blairs adviser on nation wrecking
McTernan, whom Flirdy imported to aid and abet her monstrous agenda for her adopted country.

This is a PM who blatantly and consistently refuses to
ensure our border security surely a basic responsibility
of any Australian government. Howard did it, why cannot
Gillard .....for the simple reason she does not want secure
borders ,,,,,never did and never will.

Gillard and her cabal revel in the chaos of our borders
and the cost to taxpayers and the future chaos we all know will
result from this flood of people who are country shopping for
the best deal they can get from western countries - the
three prefered being the UK, USA and of course Australia
whose PC socialist government is carrying out wealth redistributtion of taxpayers money running into hundreds of
billions in favour of the politically correct.......illegals especially
being up at the top of the list.

Illegals who can ring up the Australian Navy once off the
Indonesian coast for a cab ride to Australian shores at
$1 million per call out.

People who refuse to obey our laws and instead push
their way into Australia where they are greeted with open
arms and buckets of taxpaers money for life by a government
and PM who want this to happen and have actively encouraged
this disgraceful performance.,,,,thus making us once again
look complete fools in the eyes of the international community.

Making Australia look like a bunch of mugs is what Gillard
is all about and sadly she’s succeeded .....and will continue
to succeed as she clings to power with her dainty, manicured,
never done a days work, hands.

Hands which however are deft at wielding the nations credit
cards she’s maxing out before Tony Abbott brings her
manic gallop to an abrupt halt later this year.

Just go Gillard in the interests of the nation you so clearly
detest.

Blott on the landscape replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:20am)

`The right thing` and `respect` are two concepts which are not in the Communist Manifesto.
I thought i might just mention that.

victoria replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:02pm)

Are you nuts Lord Argyle ? She who must be obeyed has never put anyone but herself first, and it’s a bit late for the leopard to change spots. Dorky glasses are the only change she’ll be making. The real worry in this country is that anyone would vote for these Labor/union rorters. How much more does it take for those ‘ true believers ‘ to face reality .

I think these polls also show the nation needs a leader who remains focused, steady and isn’t sidetracked by insults, innuendo and rants.

Tony Abbott has shown he cannot be sidetracked unlike Gillard and Labor who flop about like dying fish making decisions detrimental to the nation but always, always in their own best interest.

Now we are coming into the reuse and recycle phase of Labor choosing which has been they will nominate for vacant seats. The incestuous family connections continue.

Typically Newspoll is generous to Labor so I wonder what the real figures are for the real, real, real, real Julia’s leadership?

Also will someone PLEASE do something about the lighting they use on TA on the morning shows? Makes him look like something off the set of Alien.

Piers. According to today’s Telegraph, a Labor MP is quoted as saying,
“ I am now to be known as the man who is afraid to wake up,”
“I live in constant fear of what disaster tomorrow will bring.”
All I can say to that man is - JOIN THE CLUB,
Gillard has been at the head of this nation for the better part of two years.
SHE LEFT THE WORST PART TO US.

If this anonymous Labor MP is afraid to wake up each morning, why then doesn’t he put a STOP to the LIES? Why doesn’t he become a whistle blower? Why has he sat quietly and allowed the destruction of Australia to occur under Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd? No conscience, greedy to stay in power. No honour or respect for Australia.

No credibility in my opinion. How anyone could sit by and betray this Nation is beyond me.

David of Emerald replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:29am)

I noticed that the response to the polls in The Telegraph is unanimous in calling for an election now.

Not surprisingly the age makes no reference to them.

Westy replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:53am)

Cowards one and all. Too scared of his comrades in the ALP to do the right thing. But quite happy to keep his snout in the trough.

What depths will they have to plumb before one of them finally says enough is enough?

Mother G replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:28am)

If the MP quoted was to resign now he would lose some of his benefits so it s a no brainer, they will hang on till the last minute...their pensions depend on the number of full terms they have served.

John Jay replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:32am)

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To Proud Aussie -

Well said ..

Why doesn’t this person leave the Labor Party?

They are glued together ..

Glued head and heart .. with cult glue.

John Jay.

P.J. replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:25pm)

Proud Aussie, I am sure that many of Gillards Party Members are feeling SHOCK, HORROR, but not enough to give up their lucrative jobs in a hurry, even though they are much better off than the average Australian.

doc replied to Gonk
Mon 04 Feb 13 (08:21pm)

Why dont they retire? What a silly question! This is the LABOR party. This is the party of violence and a fair spread of crooks,as exposed through the courts over the years. People involved in this party have been known in the past to be done over with baseball bats eg the NSW councillor whose after the bashing photo I remember in the papers all those years ago.
Those union heavyweights that accompany Joe McDonald arent there as overweight paperweights; they are there for intimidation.
This is the party whose nepotism is second only to the mafia. When people of this party are accused of wrong doing they can make papers disappear from the most secure places of government archives as in WA and elsewhere. This is the party that can make papers disappear in shredders or open up confidential cabinet records of previous governments.

I would think twice of crossing this party.

Piers,
How will she attired today, new hair style & glasses, with the latest accessory being a box of tissues.
No possible image upgrade can camouflage her (*##**^) persona.

Whatever her attire, she’s sure to be better dressed than you. You’ve really got to be scraping the bottom of the drop-dunny to make an absurd comment like that.

BEL replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:50am)

Her latest accessory has been yanked out of the Lodges closet Woolfgang! Hopefully, Prime Minister, Juliar McTernan (as TB called her!) will take the tissues in place of her comedian bed buddy, Tim Tam. They will be way less embarrassing!!!!

Watcher on the Wry replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:08am)

Oh the perils of poor Pauline! It looks like Wolfgang’s comment sailed clear over the top of her intellectually and politically-challenged drop-dunny head! What an absurd reply she makes to Wolfgang! She clearly doesn’t get it! That’s what happens when you rust yourself on to Julia Gillard.

Anabel replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:15am)

Pauline............You think that is scraping the bottom of the drop-dunny, you aught to take a look at what the immoral, fake, deceitful lying Gillard dishes out.... in the way of personal insults or are your eyes and ears painted on? Daily she earns every bit of disrespect she gets. No amount of makeovers, image changes or crocodile tears will change the fact that the woman is rotten to the core. Gillard is the contents of the bottom of the drop dunny!!!!!

Hotrocks replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:36am)

Yes Woolfie you shouldn’t be talking about her persona, we all know she doesn’t have one.

truth replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:25am)

Pauline---

If you really think Gillard deserves respect, then why make such a facile, meaningless comment on what is a completely legitimate critique by Wolfgang?

Why don’t you get into the nitty gritty, and explain why this law-abiding country should have to wear the stain of a PM who’s dodging the scrutiny of law enforcement---scrutiny of her own personal actions and connections to an alleged fraud and money-laundering operation run by her former lover and made possible only by her willingness at the time to vouch for him and to be at the very least loose with the law.

Explain to us all why we should respect this woman who in effect demands that her former lover [ and she herself] be above the law ---that his alleged money-laundering operation that netted him huge amounts of money be left uninvestigated---that he be allowed to keep the spoils and to be left unpunished simply because investigation and accountability for him before the law, would require investigation of her own role and connections to the crime.

Her former lover’s operation reportedly netted him as much or more in stolen funds than is involved in the allegations against Craig Thomson.

Explain why Craig Thomson is now out on bail after his arrest, and about to front the courts---while Julia Gillard’s former boyfriend is under her protection, only because he knows too much, and because investigation and possible arrest of him would possibly indict her.

Explain why two journalists were sacked in an attempt to silence them---because they wanted the Australian people to know the truth---why those law-abiding men had to be punished to keep her dodgy former boyfriend unpunished.

Explain why police should not be asked [ if they don’t move on Bruce Wilson] why they’re bowing to power to place certain people above the law , while going in boots and all to bring others to book?

What’s needed is for a MSM journalist to ask Julia Gillard---on camera----

‘Do you believe in equality before the law , Prime Minister?’

‘Do you believe that the alleged fraud and money-laundering operation of your former boyfriend , Bruce Wilson, should be investigated by police, along with the actions, work and representations by you that accompanied it----- or do you believe he should be considered to be beyond the reach of the law because of his connections to you---remembering that the Statute of Limitations doesn’t apply?

‘If the police leave this crime uninvestigated , PM, in effect placing both you and your former lover above the law -----would you support calls for a Royal Commission into the Union movement and their Labor, and law enforcement connections----- and the implications of those connections for the integrity of Australia’s rule of law ?’

Libs Win Landslide 2013 replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:53am)

Hear hear WofM. More tissues for the fake tears for the fake PM.

John Jay replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:57am)

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To Pauline -

Wolfgang’s comment is totally valid ..

Gillard is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

If people could see into Gillard’s mind and heart they would be in considerable shock.

Her Mr Magoo glasses, fake hair, voice coaching (in an attempt to de-drone her) etc are all image manipulation .. to sell an utterly unworthy person to a country in great need of genuine leadership.

John Jay.

Wolfgang replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:57am)

Pauline,
OUCH! that was a little stingy slap, but what else is she going to use when she sheds a tear.
AND, I see you are on this blog to put ‘us’ back into line, it’s great isn’t it?

Frances of Melbourne replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:07pm)

To Wolfgang.
Maybe the Australian Women’s Weekly will step in to do another puff piece on our glorious leader!

P.J. replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:38pm)

Pauline, Wolfgang, and most Australians , are fed up with seeing the multitude of clothes and jewels in Gillards wardrobe, when most are struggling to keep a shirt on their back. She is not the Queen, and doesn’t need a new outfit each day, to take our minds off what she is up to! You are presumptious stating that Gillard is better dressed than Wolfgang! If you are so fond of Gillard, why read this column...as you can see that we are NOT Labor Lovers. I read your last catty remark and ignored it...but you are becoming a pest! Perhaps you are her designer?

Pauline replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:25pm)

Ah!!! Now I get it. It’s not about politics anymore; it’s now a fashion contest.
Reply: What did you think the silly glasses were about?

Mandrake replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:46pm)

Pauline, you have missed the point completely. Wolfgang was referring to these constant incarnations of Gillard. What she wears is completely immaterial, what is material is her complete and utter failure to do her job. Makeovers can’t camouflage this...get it?

FunGoose replied to Wolfgang
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:11pm)

Whatever disguises she wear, it won’t work. We still know it’s her underneath.

owl replied to Wolfgang
Tue 05 Feb 13 (12:59am)

Hilary Clinton wore glasses after her operation to remove a blood clot. Hilary was asked during a media interview, and she explained that she needed to wear the glasses to avoid glare.

Julia Gillard’s glasses were a prop - the new, serious Julia, after Tim’s comments which could have landed him in trouble from Nicola Roxon’s anti-discrimination laws not to offend anyone!

As for the tissues - that was the ‘emotional’ Julia - a performance sure to win her a logie.

The previous week, Julia Gillard had her dog on show at the function for Australia Day 2013 award recipients. Barack Obama has a dog too!

Australia Day 2012 will be long remembered for the farce hatched in Gillard’s office and ended with Gillard being dragged to her car shoeless. The idea was to embarrass the Opposition Leader Tony Abbott but instead Gillard’s staffer, Hodges, got a ticket out of the country to a new job in London!

Now is the time for the so-called Independents .....to show they are really “Independent” and not just ALP stooges....

Never forgive or forget what Rob Oakeshott, Tony Windsor, Adam Bandt and Andrew Wilkie have supported, especially the LIES.

Boiler Service replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:26am)

Gertbysea, what are you on? Those 2 snakes will never give up, they will hold on as long as they can because it suits them, they get more super at our expence if they go the full term, they care not a jot about the people.

Oakshot famously said on ABC"Jan I love this job so much I would do it for a can of baked beans” what utter crap.

These two are worse, much worse than these Labour / Union Rats, we expect corruption, nepitism from them, but the people of Oakshott and Windsors constituants are Liberal /National voters, they voted for these two clowns who they expected would stay on the right, how wrong they were, how they have been stabbed in the back, they will I hope be run out of town.

Snakes nothing else to be said, we need an election Now, not September, how much more damage will be done by these Traitors between now and then?

GetOut replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:30am)

Not going to happen Gert. Part of the deal with Dipstick and Wingnut was to run the full term. Dipstick is announcing in March whether he will try an ill fated run for another term so being the man he is he will hold on to his little fantasy world till September.

Gonk replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:43am)

GetOut.
If asked, I bet one of these two will say he “has not made up his mind” as to whether he will run for office again.
No prizes for guessing which one.

Margie of Brisbane replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:09am)

11% said they would vote for “other”. What sort of voter would ever again vote for an Independent after this disastrous term. Maybe Bob comprises some of that figure but really 11%? Makes absolutely no sense at all!

gertbysea replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:19am)

hi Boiler man

HI Boiler man…
Poor simple deluded me....here was I harboring the vain hope that
these two phonies would have a damascene conversion....

Oh well..at least we know Oakeshotts price....a can of beans…

For the damage he has done...its too expensive....gert

barry replied to gertbysea
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:51pm)

Forgive???

That’s one of Australia’s biggest problems ... forgiving to easily.

Why forgive someone who doesn’t give a rats about you ?

Without the left media Rudd/Gillard labor would never have won elections.
The left media have cost the Australian taxpayer hundreds of billions.
The left wont get one more cent from me.

Except for a few individuals we have Left political activists who call themselves a media.

John Jay.

kate replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:19am)

I totally agree !

They are culpable in this trashing of our Country.
I switch off almost everything these days, haven’t purchased any papers for a long time now.

It disgusts me.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:26am)

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Further -

The Left love to say Tony Abbott is so unpopular ..

For example, propagandist Bruce Hawker said on the radio recently that Labor has a weapon - the unpopularity of Tony Abbott.

Is he so unpopular?

Or is it that the Left “media” have made sure Australians don’t know him .. don’t see who he really is?

He is continually presented in a negative light.

Were he presented fairly, honestly .. where would his popularity be?

His unpopularity is largely due to a wall of lies between who he really is and the eyes of Australians.

It is amazing he is polling as he is given the smothering of the truth by the Left “media”.

This rare man is out there teaching aboriginal children .. or fighting bush fires ..

When Gillard is supposedly knitting .. now in Mr Magoo glasses ..

Hawker says Tony Abbott is so unpopular ..

Hawker, McTernan and fellow professional liars (1600 of them) created this ..

They create this and then use this ..

They lie and lie and then, when trusting Australians absorb the lies, manipulate accordingly.

John Jay.

truth replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:40am)

Couldn’t agree more, John Jay.

‘Activists’ for the Left is exactly what they are---and they’re doubling and redoubling their efforts this year with their extended political programs.

It’s such a tribute to TA that he’s been able thus far to scuttle all their attempts to destroy him.

He’ll need to remain especially vigilant in the next seven months though, when they’ll be trying to emulate Obama’s scam which also could never have worked without a criminally anti-democracy , utterly ruthless MSM propaganda machine, and the receptiveness of crippled , damaged minds.

Frances of Melbourne replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:09pm)

To What a Waste.
Sadly, in 2007, News Ltd barracked for Rudd...all main papers except the Melbourne Herald Sun.....which is odd because down here it’s more Labor than anywhere else.

Nik replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:11pm)

As much as we can blame a biased media I think that the electorates that brought forth such phonies as Windsor & Oakshot have something to answer for. If they are such conservative electorates why didn’t they vote in conservatives?
Because they thought they could be cute and vote for independents. Protest votes I guess? Meant to remind the Coalition they can’t take Port MacQuarie & New England for granted. Guess what people! Perhaps you where taking it for granted that your elected crackpot would represent your views, your values. Surprise! These lightweights where catapulted into a position of power beyond their experience or competence, where instantly corrupted by their suddenly inflated importance & grabbed the main chance. Electorate (thats you by the way) be damned.
The next election (as in deed all of them have or will be) will be won by the ALP or the Coalition. Plain as that. Vote for somebody else & you are blowing the only real say you get every few years. It may make you feel morally superior to back somebody outside of the two main parties but it is a silly stunt which at the last Federal election backfired badly. Not just for the people of Port macQuarie & New England but for the whole country.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:05pm)

John Jay,

Tell us about the Darkness. And those souls from Atlantis. And all your other silliness.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:56pm)

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To Palindromeman -

As you have made it a hobby to niggle me, I decided to ask for higher guidance about you.

This will bounce off you .. your arrogance will shield you .. but it may be of interest to others (if only as part of a general study of life and the various personalities in this world) ..

All of following was guided -

“ This person (Palindromeman) is very arrogant .. he sees himself as above other people, in a high position, superior, like an aristocrat ..

What he believes, what he thinks .. this is law .. whatever he thinks and decides about a person .. he believes he can know about that person and give advice ..

It is all mixed up .. it is all in his mind .. he does not hold much truth .. he thinks he is right in everything ..

He is a destructive person but he does not know it. ”

John Jay.

What a waste replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:58pm)

Frances,
It would be interesting to know if there are any political editors of News Ltd. publications that are conservative because i think that they are from the left so they would go for Rudd.
Perhaps someone could help us out with that one.

PS, i wonder how many Greek voting conservatives there are if Greece is anything to go by, not many.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:19pm)

John Jay,

Really! You have your god head bearing witness against me.Your fail.

Stephanr replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:44pm)

It is very obvious that you have simply made that up John Jay. The idea that you have sought ‘higher guidance’ against another blogger because they have ‘niggled’ you is just not believable. Seriously, even the wording is tainted with a delusional grandiosity. And that is because the words are from you John Jay. Delusions of grandeur is the best way to sum you up and I didn’t need to confer with the divine to tell you that. Actually, I wouldn’t mind hearing what the Divine thinks about me. Yes, it’s my ego but it would be better than reading my stars in the Telegraph every day. Cue anyone who wants to tell me what my future holds, detractors welcome

Gerard replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (05:04pm)

John Jay,

You must be joking . . . you have just described yourself, particularly with this line: “It is all mixed up .. it is all in his mind .. he does not hold much truth .. he thinks he is right in everything .. ”

You really must stop this nonsense about seeking “higher guidance” and thinking it is all true. Please seek help.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (05:06pm)

John Jay,

Oh my. Now you are claiming to go go your God Head. And I am found wanting?

You really need help. I do not know whay else to say.

Aktosplatz replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (05:54pm)

Here is some real Divine Wisdom from th Book of James in the New Testament:-

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (06:53pm)

John Jay,

You really are in strife. You truly come to me claiming God has run me down? Mate, you need help.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (06:55pm)

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To Stephanr -

I study life and I decided, in this spirit, to seek higher guidance on where this man is coming from .. I had my own impressions but I decided to take this further .. what I have written is what was given.

You can theorize all you like that I made this up .. I did not.

That you have chosen to not discern between theory and truth in this instance is your failing .. you are the poorer for this choice.

I have no delusions of grandeur and never have had .. this is your own invention and goes back to your ability to see.

You can play detective all you want .. the truth stands independent of your guesswork.

To Gerald -

You have no idea what you are talking about.

The line you quote was given on a particular soul .. that you believe this line also describes me identifies the extent of your vision.

To Palindromeman -

I expected a haughty scoff .. such is in keeping with your every blog addressed to me .. and such is in keeping with what has been given.

You would do well to take seriously this guided vision of your character .. to the extent you are able to.

You will be a better person if you do so.

To receive higher guidance is a gift .. it is the truth and the Light and a path to a more successful life.

Arrogance is a path to a less successful life.

John Jay.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (08:39pm)

@Palindromeman. John Jay’s “higher power” said exactly the same thing about me not so long ago. Every town has one: a bag lady; a drunk; a hoarder; and a John Jay. Best to ignore him as he’s clearly quite mad.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:38pm)

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To Palindromeman -

You truly come to me claiming God has run me down?

Running down is the wrong term. I sought insight into you and received it. You can choose to respond to this constructively if you wish .. you could soul search and seek a path of humility.

As for your “you need help” line .. you are sounding like a stuck gramophone .. repeating this cliche over and over has little meaning.

If you have a case, present it .. if cheap cliches are all you have .. perhaps it’s time to move on.

To Harry the Hat -

The same applies to you.

If all you can do is dip into your bag of insults .. then you need to rethink your position.

The amazing thing about you Harry is you are an authority on something that doesn’t exist ..

God doesn’t exist (in your world) yet you are an authority on all things spiritual .. right down to your insight that great, revered saints were simply in need of psychiatric help.

Stick to engineering Harry.

John Jay.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Tue 05 Feb 13 (09:13am)

John Jay,

Time to move on? Yes, I am afraid it is - for you. You have worked this Dark vs Light thing into the ground. Get over it.

And let’s reflect on your temerity. You actually believe you went directly to God to ask about me? Really? Your hubris is breathtaking.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Tue 05 Feb 13 (12:37pm)

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To Palindromeman -

I have no hubris .. this perception is part of your confusion.

I will not be commenting here again.

John Jay.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Tue 05 Feb 13 (02:28pm)

@John Jay,
Your statement re not commenting here again is like music to my ears.
I hope you are a man of your word.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Tue 05 Feb 13 (07:54pm)

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To Timber Bill -

I meant I will not be responding here again to Palindromeman.

I will respond to you -

If you do not appreciate what I, or for that matter another blogger, contribute .. why not simply scroll to a blogger who you feel is more for you?

Why is this so difficult?

And why is respect so difficult?

Do you have answers to these two questions?

John Jay.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (09:04am)

@John Jay,
Unlike you i will answer the silly questions you put, where as i notice you duck and dive and refuse to answer simple questions others ask of you.
When reading replies it is hard to skip over the gobsmacking stupidity and all knowing arrogance you display, though often provides a good gut retching belly laugh.
it is impossible to even consider respecting a full on raving lunatic with voices in his head who believes that god told him he killed 100’s of innocents and destroyed the homes and livelihood’s of 100,000s more as a warning to americans not to vote for obama.
To respect a person who thinks he, here in australia, far away from the U.S.A. is the only person fit to be let in on god’s plan, after the event happened.
Respect is earnt, not demanded and i suggest you seek help for your all to evident state of self delusion.
Poor silly you.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (09:32am)

@ John Jay
when you received this guidance fom on high,

“ This person (Palindromeman) is very arrogant .. he sees himself as above other people, in a high position, superior, like an aristocrat ..

What he believes, what he thinks .. this is law .. whatever he thinks and decides about a person .. he believes he can know about that person and give advice ..

It is all mixed up .. it is all in his mind .. he does not hold much truth .. he thinks he is right in everything ..

He is a destructive person but he does not know it. “

I think you got it mixed up with a message about yourself.
Day in day out you display exactly those character traits or lack of character traits for all to see.
Go look in the mirror.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (01:49pm)

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To Timber Bill -

My questions to you were fair.

It is not hard to control your hand as you scroll and it is possible to respect that others may not see things as you do.

Also, on what do you base your claim that God does not give warnings that involve tragedy?

On exactly what do you base this?

Is your authority yourself?

Re your second blog -

The impression you have of my character is very inaccurate.

John Jay.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (02:16pm)

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To Timber Bill -

Further -

What is your best answer to this (very important) question -

Person A and person B read the words of person C.

Person A sees no ego/arrogance in person C’s words.

Person B sees great ego/arrogance in person C’s words.

What do you, Timber Bill, believe would be the fundamental reasons why the perception of person A and person B are so very different?

Remember, you do not avoid questions.

John Jay.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (02:54pm)

@ John Jay.
Re warnings of tragedy from god.
You are completely nuts to claim god sought you out to tell you he sent some diabolical warning to the people of America not to vote for a certain candidate in their presidentual election.
A man who is a devout and practising christain in fact, wether you like his policies or not.
Perhaps if you were given this information about the hurricane being a deadly warning before it happened, or as it was happening and before the election you could have passed it on, but no, like all charlatans and religious nuts you can only clame you came by this knowledge well after the event.
Re your character, you have none to form an impression of, just a never can be wrong misfit hiding behind your delusions and voices in your head.
A few questions for you.
Do you Work?
Do you have any social friends?
Have you ever had a partner of the opposite sex, formed any relationship and had a family?
i bet answer to all is no, because let’s face it John, you are just weird and unable to communicate without the help of the voices in your head and your self delusions.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (04:05pm)

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To Timber Bill -

You did not answer my question at all ...

Why not?

I will ask you one more time -

On what do you base your claim that God does not give warnings that involve tragedy?

On exactly what do you base this?

Is your authority yourself?

I will add this -

If your authority is yourself .. do you really believe one human unaided by the Divine can possibly know the deeper workings of God?

I would appreciate an honest answer .. try to resist hiding in abuse.

Re your personal questions - they are totally out of line .. I will put them down as your hot head spilling over.

John Jay.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (05:04pm)

@ John Jay,
Stop demanding and answer my questions.
Your questions about a b and c just to infantile to bother with.
Your reply shows how sad you are, no life ouside your self delusion.
Every town seems to have a character like you and your are this sites loony.
Your silence on my questions to you prove the social misft you are.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (05:38pm)

@John Jay.
You did not receive a warning.
You said God told you well after the cyclone that it was a warning, go back and read your own post.
A warning is before an event, not some ridiculous claim well after the thing happened.
In your own words, you received no warning, just a friendly chat where your voices told you about the thing post it happening.
Don’t embarress your self any further.
Then again, your state of mind is beyond reason and embarressment.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (05:54pm)

I clicked on the wrong day’s blog; meant to comment about Comrade Plibersek’s cake-candle advice; but scrolled down anyway and what do I find: John Jay still arguing and still selling the same hocus-pocus to Timber Bill.

The same old nonsense: I claim something exists and it’s up to you to prove that it doesn’t.

I say there are wild marsupial panthers in the Blue Mountains, there is even an NRL Team named after them (that I follow) - so they really do exist unless you can prove otherwise. Of course, John Jay never answers a question; never explains anything; just smoke and mirrors and the disjointed claptrap from a fevered mind.

You’re wasting your time, Timber Bill, if you think you’ll ever get anything sensible out of this bloke. He’s nuts and everything he says is nuts.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (07:14pm)

Timber Bill,

You have absolutely nailed John Jay and his nonsense!

John Jay replied to What a waste
Wed 06 Feb 13 (08:33pm)

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To Timber Bill -

My questions to you are entirely valid .. you present yourself as someone who knows the deeper workings of God .. I ask you twice how you know .. nothing but abuse comes from you.

I ask you, in simple form, to speak on the area of perception .. nothing but abuse comes from you.

You ask me personal questions you have no right to .. questions most on this site would identify as totally out of line.

You have offered nothing but abuse.

Concerning what was given -

I received that the weather conditions were a warning to America .. to not follow Obama.

You have absolutely no idea if I did receive this.

To Harry The Hat -

There is certainly something you can do to establish for yourself if various things I post are true.

You can, in humble prayer, take your concerns to God and ask that He guide you.

You would firstly have to conquer your arrogant belief that there is no God.

To Palindromeman -

If Timber Bill has impressed you you are very easily impressed.

He has no case .. avoids any question of substance with a feeble excuse .. resorts to abuse .. is graceless.

John Jay.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (01:45am)

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To Timber Bill -

Regarding your point re the guidance I received that the weather conditions were a warning to America to not follow Obama -

It does not matter when this was given. It does not matter if this had been given one year from now.

One reason I posted this is because this world has lost awareness that God gives many signs, warnings .. the ancients knew this. This world is now deaf .. we live in an era where humanity is not focused on heaven as once was the case.

John Jay.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (06:44am)

@Timber Bill.

John won’t answer your questions for you, so I will. He has posted on this blog eleven (11) times beginning on Monday at 9:29 AM and ending at 8:33 PM on Wednesday - but that won’t be his last. He has posted in the morning, afternoon and night. As he does this regularly, and has done for years, one needs only to apply some deductive reasoning to come to the conclusion that he is sans productive employment. My guess is that he is a disability pensioner and that his paper-work has been stamped “unemployable in perpetuity”.

Having skim read many thousands of John Jay’s words in his regular page 1 loony-litanies; I have never seen any mention of a significant other, of dependants, of anyone, or even a dog to distract him from his delusions. I have therefore deduced that it is more than probable that he is a single man living alone; or, only marginally less likely, a single middle-aged man living with an aged and domineering mother.

Given John’s monotonous and unrelenting playing of the one string on life’s harp, it is also reasonable to conclude that he has no friends and no social life. This blog is his life; this is all there is to it. Perhaps he belongs to some whacko religious sect like the Scientologists, the Branch Davidian, or the People’s Temple, but I doubt it because his ideas are too scrambled to be part of any formalised cult, no matter how fly-wheel loose they are.

Thus the answers to your questions Timber Bill are: 1) He is unemployed; 2) He does not have, and never has had, any sort of intimate relationship with another person; and 3) He has little or no interaction in the social sphere, other than on this blog, or with equally loopy people in some sort of bizarre cult.

The only other possibility is that he has an easy job with plenty of time (like watching a gas-line-pressure computer screen) and finds the John Jay persona an amusing troll-line to stir up a whole lot of pointless debates and distract others into a cul-de-sac full of mind-numbing illusions, smoke, mirrors and half-baked febrile dreams. But I think a normal person trolling for personal amusement would become bored with it after a month or so; and therefore I think my initial analysis is accurate and the poor bloke is just whack-job who gets his relevance and jollies seeing his name in print every day. He is an amusing addition to this blog because he can be counted on to make some utterly risible and outrageous statement on a daily basis and stir up a lot of heated comments.

Timber Bill replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (09:23am)

@John Jay.
You are beyond all reason, poor chap, at least i guess your happy in your own mind.
I will leave you to wander about this site with your rantings like the town religious nut who wanders around town ranting and raving much to the concern of his dear old mum who he has lived with all his life.

Are those ancients the same ones who spend an eternity in limbo because they were unlucky enough to be born before christ was born, therefore never baptised?

Yawn and adios!!!

John Jay replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (11:45am)

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To Harry The Hat -

A person’s private life is just that - private.

You will notice that others don’t go down the path you and Timber Bill have ..

The reason is they respect the privacy of others, and they understand that this site is a forum for public discussion of matters of concern to people.

You certainly would understand this.

You have deliberately violated the purpose of this site .. and the spirit of this site.

Why?

A gentleman would not have done what you have done.

Also -

I do answer many questions.

One question you have avoided continually is this -

You believe great saints are psychiatric cases .. do you also believe Christ is a psychiatric case?

It would be good if you were to answer this question as it would even more clearly show people how limited you really are.

You huff and puff but when it comes to it you won’t put your convictions on the line.

Of your ill-natured scenerios of my private life - none of them are even close. This is no surprise to me as many things you say are a great distance from the truth .. you being the last to know it.

To Timber Bill -

Nothing addressed .. just more abuse .. nothing to be proud of Timber Bill.

John Jay.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (12:56pm)

“John won’t answer your questions for you, so I will. He has posted on this blog eleven (11) times beginning on Monday at 9:29 AM and ending at 8:33 PM on Wednesday - but that won’t be his last.”

As predictable as the sunrise. Like a dog with a bone - chewing it over, burying it and digging it up, always has to have the last word.

I don’t intend to have a theological debate with you as I already know that you are completely inflexible and completely irrational - like how you ask others to prove negatives all the time. Like the panthers in the mountains, no-one can “prove” they don’t exist - but a reasonable person concludes that, as there is no testable evidence of any kind, then they are as mythical as Santa, the Rainbow Serpent, and all the gods, saints and demons ever invented by the creative imaginations of men.

I won’t comment here again - but I’ll bet London to a brick that you do.

Palindromeman replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (01:12pm)

Harry the Hat,

I must hand it to you - that is the most forensic and devastating analysis I’ve read of our poor old John Jay. The shouty man wearing a sandwich board scaring the children. At least he provides some comic relief.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (02:56pm)

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To Harry The Hat -

You don’t understand the role of the human intellect.

You don’t understand it’s role and it’s limitations.

The human intellect is meant to be the servant of the soul .. it is limited .. reality stretches way, way beyond the reach of even the finest intellects.

For the greater journey you need God.

Mystics have always known this .. as have enormous numbers of people.

Albert Einstein said publicly a little before he passed from this world that his life had been in error .. that he should have followed the spiritual path.

You live in a small box Harry .. if something doesn’t conform to Harry’s logic, it doesn’t exist.

You cannot prove love .. does it exist?

You cannot prove beauty .. does it exist?

You come across as a young soul .. in future incarnations you will learn and learn .. you will reach a stage where your current reality will be untenable.

You are too arrogant to hear these words .. I write them for the benefit of those watching on who have an open mind.

You do not have an open mind .. it is locked shut by the key of arrogance.

To Palindromeman -

Harry, hitting below the belt, ill-naturedly guesses and guesses about my private life .. and you are swept off your feet.

Anything anti-JJ and you will cheer .. substance need not be present.

John Jay.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (04:19pm)

I knew it.
I just knew it!
I knew you’d come back for another chew. You just have to have that last word - even on a blog a week old. If you were one of those panthers, you’d be so easy to trap.

I wasn’t going to reply but your barefaced lie:

“Albert Einstein said publicly a little before he passed from this world that his life had been in error .. that he should have followed the spiritual path.”

compelled me to do so. Einstein said NO SUCH THING; never ever.

And I do know something about Einstein, having been a fan since first learning his elegant theory of time dilation many years ago.

I defy you to “prove” from direct quotes from Einstein’s actual writings (of which there is a truckload) where he ever said any such thing. I call bullshit. You are now resorting to outright and demonstrable lies to support your nonsense.

Einstein was never religious; never had any late life conversion or any spiritual regrets; and openly stated on many occasions that he did not, and never had, believed in a personal god.

If he had any regrets, it was wasting half his life searching for the Unified Theory and doubting Planck’s theories of quantum mechanics. It has often puzzled me as to why things like Relativity and Quantum Theory were never revealed to any of the prophets of the Abrahamic religions. Perhaps you can explain that oversight and the fact that any mathematical/engineering references are always wrong? For your information, the Ark simply would not float – it would collapse under its own weight, come apart at the joints, and sink like a stone.

John Jay replied to What a waste
Thu 07 Feb 13 (09:08pm)

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To Harry The Hat -

He did say it .. I read this in a book of his quotations (that I owned) .. I was in fact so surprised I took this to the Divine at the time and received that God gave him this insight late in his life.

That you don’t know this to be true does not mean it is not true.

I forgive your shameless rudeness.

I won’t be commenting here again Harry .. this has gone on for too long as it is .. it is not fair to Piers.

Also, out of respect for Piers, this too will be my last comment on this subject- but I wonder if it will be yours. The link you have provided goes to a quote from a Magazine from the early 1940s which Einstein rejected as a complete fabrication. He had this to say about it in a personal letter:

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

And this

“I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.”

Unfortunately, there are American fundamentalist Christians who perpetuate this myth of Einstein’s religiosity for their own ideological ends – in the same way that they claim that Beethoven was the youngest in a family of penurious half-wits, was illegitimate, and the child of a syphilitic wastrel – and use this lie in their “anti-choice” campaign. Neither story is true. Perhaps you should watch this documentary, which is real, and explains much:

I do not know if what you have stated re the link I have posted is true or false .. I do not have the time to investigate if you are in error or not.

Re the link I have posted - I stumbled across this when attempting to find the quotation I read years ago .. where Albert Einstein said publicly very late in his life (I would assume well after he said what you have quoted) that he had followed the wrong path.

The bottom line is this - it was given to me that he was given by God a deep insight into the wrongness of his path very late in his life.

I stand by this.

John Jay.

Harry the Hat replied to What a waste
Sat 09 Feb 13 (11:50am)

You just couldn’t resist it, could you? You just had to have the last word.

You are completely wrong about Einstein - he never had any late life or death bed conversion. He was never religious despite being a Jew who went through catholic schools in Germany.

The next thing you’ll be claiming Christopher Hitchens saw the errors of his ways and had a death bed conversion. Hitchens even predicted the religious whackos would make such a claim.

Debating you reminds me of being in 2nd Grade and having great discussions as to the reality or otherwise of Santa. Most people grow out of such childish beliefs - but you, obviously, have not.

I heard Craig Emerson being interviewed about the polls this morning and he said the polls bounce around and that Labor would win the next election.

Emerson is not just a tool, he is the Comical Ali of the Labor party, you can see the tanks in the background.

Craig Emerson is just trying to twist the FACTS by lying about Keating’s win in 1993. He said they did very, very well when they won the 1993 Fed Election, they didn’t just win by a little bit. Yeah right - NOT!

Perhaps Craig Emerson knows of Plan Z to be implemented on Election night?

WHO is going to scrutinize the Tally Room and the absentee votes, the early votes, the postal votes? Who is going to scrutinize the counting? It is not guaranteed that boxes of votes won’t go missing again. It is has happened before.

WHO will put their hand up to make sure ALL is above board?
Julia Gillard is so desperate to cling to power and to transform Australia into her Fabian/Socialist society that she would perhaps do anything to finished what Kevin 07 and others before him, started.

Don’t take your eyes off the counters on Polling night for a second.

Scott replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:33am)

That’s a bit harsh. Comical Ali will be offended by the comparison.

Mother G replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:32am)

Poor Craig, he still has the stardust in his eyes, those contact lenses have had him in a permanents state of euphoria.

judy from the ridge replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:33am)

Two things we can do and that is make sure labour and greens are last on the voting paper and fill it out in a biro pen

Will Polling Day be a free for all? No identity checks required. Multiple voting at various polling booths? Trade union/Labor have perfected the rort of branch stacking and nothing is sacred, not even the process of voting in a Federal election.

For Rudd-Gillard, winning elections, and remaining in power over the whole country, is all that matters. Nothing else matters.

mike of the shire replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (02:56pm)

Saw that too Lord Argyle. Cupboard full of dunce hats. Is it an act or is he truly so thick? Must be the soft plastic in his diet.
Time for a song Craig?

Ozzie Voter replied to Lord Argyle
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:35pm)

Labor got over the line (just) because of John Hewson’s ‘birthday cake’ gaff. In answer to a question about the GST Hewson stumbled and stuttered and admitted he didn’t know how much GST would apply to a cake. This happened just prior to the election and it spooked people into voting Labor.
The electorate wanted Labor gone - they loathed Keating - and Labor’s own polling showed they couldn’t win, so it goes to show how voters can be fickle when their hip-pocket nerve is affected. Same thing with Work Choices in 2007.
TA and the Libs have to be careful they don’t fall into a similar trap because Labor and their cohorts in the Media will be doing their level best to achieve a Labor win. Unthinkable but possible.

Piers yesterday on Insiders, AlboSleazy in full denial and smear mode
“ Jula has been running a stable government all last year “ Denial mode
and
“ Tony Abbott, doesnt hold this government to account, all he wants to do is wreck the parliament” Smear mode
So all we will get until september, is more smears, and a whole lot of denials

I saw Insiders yesterday only briefly, I turned it on to see if either Piers or Niki Savva were on but I got Albo Sleazy, I like that, being interviewed by Cassidy and he said he would be happy for Anthony LaPaglia to play him in the coming film as they are alike. I like La Paglia but Albanese is a creep. I turned it off. I think 16th March is a good date for the election, save us heartache and crap poured out by Labor.

Peter, sounds as though they have broken ALL the TEN COMMANDMENTS. You didn’t mention Adultery and bearing False Witness, and of course, as Atheists we can’t ask them to Love God. That sounds like Gillards problem...being an Atheist, she doesn’t NEED to follow any Christian belief ! Let us NEVER, EVER accept an UNBELIEVER as PM!

kate replied to Peter
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:37am)

You forgot Adultery, to be good at Adultery you need to be a very good Liar !

All buried from sight daily by 1600 propagandists and the Left news reader ..

Australians never suspecting the reality behind the face of Labor ..

The sickening inner workings ..

When Australians are afforded a glimpse of what Labor really is, a huge operation to smother the truth comes into play .. such as the smothering to protect golden boy Kevin Heiner Rudd when some were seeking to expose his past .. such as Michael Smith losing his job when he started digging into Julia Slater and Gordon Gillard’s past ..

Touch the truth and they will jump on you.

If Australians were fully aware of what Labor is .. right down to the unreported behind-the-scenes bashings .. where would Labor’s polling be?

17%?

2%?

John Jay.

Verity replied to Peter
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:29am)

Tony Abbott Values:

Morality, Strength under the most disgraceful attacks from the above,
Generosity, Depth, Humility, Loyalty, Honesty, Gives of himself to the Community as a Firefighter and Lifesaver and even then is vilified.

I know who I prefer.

Kathy Marshall replied to Peter
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:06pm)

The seven deadly sins, Envy, of Abbott as well.

Palindromeman replied to Peter
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:45pm)

John Jay is not well.

I would not take heed of his missives.

John Jay replied to Peter
Tue 05 Feb 13 (12:13am)

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You have to be able to see to diagnose, Palindromeman.

John Jay.

Timber Bill replied to Peter
Tue 05 Feb 13 (03:07pm)

@ John Jay.
What price your word? john Jay.
You said you would not be commenting here again.
I wonder what The Divine makes of you not keeping your word.

John Jay replied to Peter
Wed 06 Feb 13 (10:10pm)

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To Timber Bill -

“Here” refers to the relevant box .. the relevant exchange.

John Jay.

Hello Everybody

My name is Freddy, and I used to be visually challenged.
Sometimes my fellow bloggers on Piers Akerman’s website use my name while expressing their own personal opinions.
I must say that I am very happy and flattered to know that those nice bloggers are thinking of me, and their concern has changed my life.
But I am also very sad because some of my closest friends who are also visually challenged never get a look in because those same nice bloggers never use their names.
My friends actually suffer from self-inflicted blurry vision. It is curable, but the doctors all say that only intelligent people can be cured. It is not possible to cure brain-dead people.
Also, it sometimes takes a lot of repetitive messages sent to their brains to do the job.
So if you would like to help cure my friends the same way you have cured me, then please occasionally mention Blind Michelle, Blind Peter, Blind Lenore, Blind Laurie or Blind Fran in your future comments.
For example, you could write, ‘Even Blind Michelle could see that Julia Gillard was up to her pearl necklace in the blah, blah, blah.’
Or maybe you could write, ‘Even Blind Laurie could see that Peter Slipper is a blah, blah, blah.’
That’s all for now; I’m off to watch the 20/20 cricket.

Well that added an entirely new dimension to the political debate. Don’t give up your day job just yet as I think your stand-up routine needs a lot more work.

P.J. replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (09:48am)

Barney, you are so kind to think of your Visually impaired friends, but some, like Michelle and Laurie, are mentally impaired, also, and at their great age, it is probably too late for a cure! The best that can be expected, is that people understand their lack of memory and decreasing mental functions, so we should just ignore the WAFFLE and FICTION....Most of us can recall some elderly person who repeats fiction and lies, they are to be pitied , nor scorned. Sad to say, it can happen to a lady who could be quite young and naive.

Blott on the landscape replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (10:03am)

Look Eric, there goes Freddy, isn`t he a boring little tit.
Forcing yourself to be funny is like a PM forcing herself to look like.............

Alex46 replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:15am)

I’m glad to read that you are no longer considered ugly being no longer visually impaired - or did you mean that you used to be “vision impaired”?

true lilly replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (11:59am)

A bad review from ‘Pauline’, is a far better compliment than I could pay.

I bet ‘throwing in the cricket’, also blindsided her with rage, lacking the insight, foresight and hindsight to understand how such gentle humour, can deliver such cutting, cold hard facts.

scotty replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:06pm)

Good one Barney. Priceless! You are world famous and even Krudd knows you. Gillard of course knows you intimately because all those blind people who still worship her come from the same clan ….. the clan of Brainwashed Blind Freddies.

I agree, cricket is better viewing than watching Gillard and her toxic government continue on with their lying ways.

BLIND FREDDY CAN SEE: PM says Victorian and WA CFMEU is a “problem”
By VEXNEWS ? June 10, 2009
http://www.vexnews.com
Copy & paste the heading, you will find the article.

~scotty~

Kathy Marshall replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:09pm)

I like that, very cleaver. By the way I think this Pauline is a Labor Troll.

P.J. replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:43pm)

Pauline, you are as humourless as Facts Please, although he is more intelligent.

Cavaletta replied to Barney
Mon 04 Feb 13 (01:52pm)

Paul the cross-dresser, (oops I almost wrote course-dresser) has put on the red wig and the loud pants-suit and is now blogging as Pauline. Pants-suit must be a bit tight in the crotch Pauline is becoming quite shrill, just stand up Pauline and give ‘em a shake - works every time.

using preference flows at the 2010 election

Does anyone really think that preferences will flow in the same way? Given NSW , and QLD results fought on basically similar themes - Labor’s complete incompetence - I just can’t see it.

Piers thank you for another article of truth painting the Labor party at their shambolic best.

Sportsbet and Centrebet are both agencies where well informed people put their money on future predictions.

Both these agencies have the Libs hovering around $1.25 : 1, and Labor around $4.00 : 1.

Clearly Labor is a long shot at the next election, but this has not yet dawned on Labor. No wonder they are running around like chooks with no heads, with many jumping ship as soon as they can. Comrade Gillard’s tenure as PM has been one of disaster after disaster, which is now unraveling for them.

Just put them out of their misery. Come on Comrades Bill Ludwig and Paul Howse et al, where are the faceless men when we need them?

Paul is probably checking the books at AWU, just to be sure that there has been no fiddling the till! In his exhalted position, he would not want anyone pointing at him!

The electrate has been wide awake and aggitating for change
to conservative government for years Piers.

Voters did their best to remove Gillard Labor from office in
2010 - a move stymied by those two trustworthy characters
Oakeshott and Windsor who cited stability in government as the reason they returned Gillard to office.

Chaos of course has been the result of O and Ws betrayal
of their conservative constituents.

So although the electorate has not been sleeping on the job
the rat cunning of Labor managed to circumvent the
wishes of the people which I for one find is sinister and dangerous meddling with our democracy by a mendacious
power mad PM and her ditto cabal.

So true, staying in power when they knew that the majority of electors wanted them gone. Wasting money hand over fist and they knew that these decisions were unpopular. The Carbon Tax. The arrogance. The childish tantrums in Question Time and the ridiculous labelling of Tony Abbott.
They took our democracy and wiped their feet on it. September can’t come soon enough. BTW aren’t the Greens silent in all this.

Now the writings on the wall in big bold print my prediction for the next 7 months is that we will see labour pollies heading for one last gorging at the trough Overseas Junkets,...nepotistic promotion to qualify for that bigger pension..you name it. before they get shown the door. & all with a bit of scorched earth Policy to screw the libs over .

Rick - quite right. Promotions for Julia Gillard’s backbenchers to positions as junior ministers/parliamentary secretaries - for 6 months before the election campaign starts. This means more pensions for being promoted for 6 months. Daylight robbery.

Piers , thank you for such good news to start the day! The Coalition deserves to be recognised as the best Party, and Tony Abbott has ALWAYS been the better person for PM! No doubt Gillard will still try the Dirty tricks campaign though. Gillards govt. is unravelling as fast as her knitting. I could not believe that anyone in their right mind , would give that speech to her party, explaining the GREAT achievements of LABOR, since the last election. A ten year old could have written a better speech, and as Gillard doesn’t write her own speeches, it probably was written by a child, and spoken in a calm, slow drone to sooth the nerves of all her Party Members!. Gillard is falling apart and must know her Election chances are NIL !

Long time no hear P.J! I love your loyalty and the faith you have always had in Tony Abbott’s position. You should be ‘Big Ears lover’ as I don’t deserve the title any more. I am a big ears lover forever, but I worry too much about the left media and Julia McTernan’s defamatory gossip about him. I hope they make it to September (my birthday month) with these polls! God bless your little cotton socks, P.J.

I listened to that speech yesterday, first time I have listened to her voice in many months for more than 20 seconds without muting or changing channels. It really was an utterly insulting, delusional heap of lies. Talking of opportunity for the poor and how Labor had enabled those from poor backgrounds to go to University - as if this has never happened before! Then to take credit for the hard work of others by claiming it was all down to Labor “values” - rubbish! If someone from a poor background goes to University it is their effort and hard work as well as that of their teachers and mentors. What an absolute insult to all those who have made the effort, to all teachers, to all community workers, to the families of such individuals. No Gillard, YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT (to quote your beloved buffoon across the Pacific) and no Gillard, there is not “more [social engineering] to do”.

With all the shenanigans of the past week I mistakenly believed I would be able to withstand listening to the propaganda and deceit again but I was very wrong. She infuriates every fibre of my being, her mouth is like Pandora’s box and her presence almost causes me physical pain.

Why is it so replied to P.J.
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:06pm)

Reply PJ and co.
That speech, I read at Mr Smith`s site ...O M G .
Who writes these I wonder?
Can you believe it?

P.J. replied to P.J.
Mon 04 Feb 13 (03:48pm)

BEL, Tony has a lovely wife and much as I care for the man, I could never inflict an 82 year old woman on him! Actually he is the same age as my son. As I had a fall and tore tendons in my shoulder, I did cut down the posts for a little while. I have gone back to one finger typing. Tony has the decent character, strength and caring for others , which will get him through this next few months, and our prayers won’t go astray either. How is your son, Bel? Hope all is well for him. He has a loving family and that is such a help when you are suffering. God Bless.

P.J. replied to P.J.
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:25pm)

Gonk, Zebedee and WIIS, I have to confess, I did not LISTEN to the speech, like WIIS, I read it. That way I find it so much easier to read between the lines, and I don’t always understand her accent. Zebedee, you are right about the insulting way she spoke of Australian education, especially insinuating that our Primary students didn’t know how to read and write! I started school in 1935 and our teachers were strict disiplinarians, so that by 3rd class I could read as well as many adults. My children had no help from Gillard, their teachers were good too. I do think she has a fixation about teaching because her Father, in Wales , lacked in education, and he taught her everything, she claims. I know many who have worked their way through University....no handouts from govt., and it is appreciated more! Labor Ministers must have their degrees given by a UNION!

Piers,
The polls could have been even worse for the ALP if Prime Minister Gillard had not annointed Nova Peris, had consulted her Cabinet before broadcasting the election date, had made the Cabinet changes before Christmas. It’s a good job she has such an astute personal adviser as McTernan.
I think the appointment of Brendan O’Connor is a stunt. However, Kelvin Thompson’s promotion could come in very handy after the next election. Apparently, he may be needed to write testimonials for ex-pollies looking for a job.
I strongly suspect that our government is losing its way. Look out for the next and inevitable change of leaders leading to a new full-forward for the Western Bulldogs.
Gerry Byrne
New Gisborne Vic

Mc Ternan is on track for presiding over three disasters in a row.......are we quite sure he isn’t Irish ?

P.J. replied to Gerry Byrne
Mon 04 Feb 13 (04:32pm)

Victoria, The spelling of McTernan is the Irish way, so he could have an Irish background. As my family were Irish too, I will NOT take OFFENCE, we do know how to laugh at our follies....Not HIS !

When Dear Leader announced the election I thought oh my god, 8 months of election campaigning someone please stab me in the eye with a blunt stick.

Well, what a pleasant surprise, all the turds in this labour sewer are floating to the top, Slipper must be getting close to the surface, AWU affair is bubbling away, only a matter of time before it pops to the surface, ICAC in NSW, Heiner affair in QLD, what a joy it is to watch this government imploding on itself.

Gopher i dunno, but i hear there is a vacant position, at the western bulldogs, just waiting for her to fill

Maybe O’Shaunessy from Newspoll had a Gillard staffer sneak on to his staff without his knowledge and he only found out over the Xmas break. How else could they get the numbers so jumbled from all the other pollsters.

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Piers has been one of The Daily Telegraph and Sunday Telegraph's best-read columnists since 1993. One of the nation's most respected journalists he has worked in New York, London, Washington and Los Angeles. He lives in Sydney with his wife and two daughters and enjoys a wide range of activities.