Why would he pay anything back ? he insists he did nothing wrong, also if the council believes he did do wrong, the people who "checked" and passed his spending should be investigated as well. Who knows what a can of worms could be opened.

Why would he pay anything back ? he insists he did nothing wrong, also if the council believes he did do wrong, the people who "checked" and passed his spending should be investigated as well. Who knows what a can of worms could be opened.Maya Pinnion

I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield.
And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate.
Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.

I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield.
And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate.
Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.eurodoomed

Politicians, Councilors, etc all have a different definition for "do the right thing". It's usually something along the lines of "if it doesn't benefit me, why should I bother?".

What happens to people who abuse the benefit system? They're prosecuted regardless of the cost (and rightly so). Why not do the same to him and all the rest of them!... oh wait, it's because they all old 'ex-colleagues'. *face palm*

Pah! It's great weather to watch some pigs flying today.
Politicians, Councilors, etc all have a different definition for "do the right thing". It's usually something along the lines of "if it doesn't benefit me, why should I bother?".
What happens to people who abuse the benefit system? They're prosecuted regardless of the cost (and rightly so). Why not do the same to him and all the rest of them!... oh wait, it's because they all old 'ex-colleagues'. *face palm*n-unknown

This odious parasite will give nothing back, he needs to be prosecuted even if it costs twice as much as he has stolen, he needs to be made an example of, confiscate his house (proceeds of crime) his car on the same basis, send the message that you will not gain from stealing from the good people of Essex, rather than the message we are currently sending of it's ok nick what you want it's too difficult to prosecute, Come on Essex CC GROW A PAIR!!

This odious parasite will give nothing back, he needs to be prosecuted even if it costs twice as much as he has stolen, he needs to be made an example of, confiscate his house (proceeds of crime) his car on the same basis, send the message that you will not gain from stealing from the good people of Essex, rather than the message we are currently sending of it's ok nick what you want it's too difficult to prosecute, Come on Essex CC GROW A PAIR!!Catchedicam

Listen we are talking about someone that when he was dipping his hands in the honey pot had no scruples then so why should he have gained any since?

Also if the Police are not going to prosecute due to insufficient evidence then those calling for him to hand back money he owes could well be liable for insinuating he has taken any money at all.
Personally I reckon he should be stripped of all titles and never again allowed into politics or at the very least receives no more money from the taxpayer in any shape or form. But of course we are dealing with MP's and Councillors who are only ever in it for themselves despite what they claim come election time, rules do not apply to these elitists. Its like I have said if you or I were to falter on their Council tax we would be hauled before the courts irrelevant of the cost to prosecute. A clear case of Double standards by this Tory lead Council yet again. Its about time we kicked the whole lot out and started again with Jo public at the helm.

Listen we are talking about someone that when he was dipping his hands in the honey pot had no scruples then so why should he have gained any since?
Also if the Police are not going to prosecute due to insufficient evidence then those calling for him to hand back money he owes could well be liable for insinuating he has taken any money at all.
Personally I reckon he should be stripped of all titles and never again allowed into politics or at the very least receives no more money from the taxpayer in any shape or form. But of course we are dealing with MP's and Councillors who are only ever in it for themselves despite what they claim come election time, rules do not apply to these elitists. Its like I have said if you or I were to falter on their Council tax we would be hauled before the courts irrelevant of the cost to prosecute. A clear case of Double standards by this Tory lead Council yet again. Its about time we kicked the whole lot out and started again with Jo public at the helm.iknowbetter

Yes, but the same is true of Brown, Blair and fraudster, and current minister David Laws. Hanningfield is an easy target, who has at least served time in prison.
Brown, Blair and Laws are still being paid massively by the taxpayer.

Yes, but the same is true of Brown, Blair and fraudster, and current minister David Laws. Hanningfield is an easy target, who has at least served time in prison.
Brown, Blair and Laws are still being paid massively by the taxpayer.eurodoomed

iknowbetter wrote:
Listen we are talking about someone that when he was dipping his hands in the honey pot had no scruples then so why should he have gained any since?

Also if the Police are not going to prosecute due to insufficient evidence then those calling for him to hand back money he owes could well be liable for insinuating he has taken any money at all.
Personally I reckon he should be stripped of all titles and never again allowed into politics or at the very least receives no more money from the taxpayer in any shape or form. But of course we are dealing with MP's and Councillors who are only ever in it for themselves despite what they claim come election time, rules do not apply to these elitists. Its like I have said if you or I were to falter on their Council tax we would be hauled before the courts irrelevant of the cost to prosecute. A clear case of Double standards by this Tory lead Council yet again. Its about time we kicked the whole lot out and started again with Jo public at the helm.

So you'll be putting yourself up for election then?

If you knew anything at all about local politics you would realise that not all councillors are like that and if you think the Tories are bad you surely have forgotten or chosen to ignore the Lefties of Labour who are happily creaming off the taxpayer, collecting £300 a day for attending the House of Lords - and I seem to remember a controversy over their expenses too not long ago. And these are the people that deplore peerages remember but are happy to accept them.

This man's Tory colleagues are not responsible for his actions, he is and he alone. And he should pay dearly.

I always say if you think you do know better or can do better, live up to it and propose yourself at the next elections.

I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.

Don't tar all politicians with the same brush.

I don't care what colour their rosettes are, the bad ones in any party need to be exposed and dealt with accordingly.

I have played my part in exposing skulduggery in party politics INCLUDING the ones I have been a member of. And that is the SOLE reason I am not a member of any. By PERSONAL choice.

And as I am paying these people out of my taxes, I continue to attend meetings and keep an eye on them in general. And I don't mind pulling up even those who are friends, if I think something is wrong.

I suggest you do the same, or as I said, put yourself up as a candidate next year.

Mind you, you'll have to do that under your real name. ;D

[quote][p][bold]iknowbetter[/bold] wrote:
Listen we are talking about someone that when he was dipping his hands in the honey pot had no scruples then so why should he have gained any since?
Also if the Police are not going to prosecute due to insufficient evidence then those calling for him to hand back money he owes could well be liable for insinuating he has taken any money at all.
Personally I reckon he should be stripped of all titles and never again allowed into politics or at the very least receives no more money from the taxpayer in any shape or form. But of course we are dealing with MP's and Councillors who are only ever in it for themselves despite what they claim come election time, rules do not apply to these elitists. Its like I have said if you or I were to falter on their Council tax we would be hauled before the courts irrelevant of the cost to prosecute. A clear case of Double standards by this Tory lead Council yet again. Its about time we kicked the whole lot out and started again with Jo public at the helm.[/p][/quote]So you'll be putting yourself up for election then?
If you knew anything at all about local politics you would realise that not all councillors are like that and if you think the Tories are bad you surely have forgotten or chosen to ignore the Lefties of Labour who are happily creaming off the taxpayer, collecting £300 a day for attending the House of Lords - and I seem to remember a controversy over their expenses too not long ago. And these are the people that deplore peerages remember but are happy to accept them.
This man's Tory colleagues are not responsible for his actions, he is and he alone. And he should pay dearly.
I always say if you think you do know better or can do better, live up to it and propose yourself at the next elections.
I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.
Don't tar all politicians with the same brush.
I don't care what colour their rosettes are, the bad ones in any party need to be exposed and dealt with accordingly.
I have played my part in exposing skulduggery in party politics INCLUDING the ones I have been a member of. And that is the SOLE reason I am not a member of any. By PERSONAL choice.
And as I am paying these people out of my taxes, I continue to attend meetings and keep an eye on them in general. And I don't mind pulling up even those who are friends, if I think something is wrong.
I suggest you do the same, or as I said, put yourself up as a candidate next year.
Mind you, you'll have to do that under your real name. ;DKim Gandy

There's about as much chance of that happening as there is of Basildon Council selling off a quarter of Lake Meadiws park and several more acres of open/green soace in Billericay for housing this year.

There's about as much chance of that happening as there is of Basildon Council selling off a quarter of Lake Meadiws park and several more acres of open/green soace in Billericay for housing this year.Howard Cháse

eurodoomed wrote:
I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield. And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate. Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.

This is a different scenario, there are/used to be various Northern Irish MP's who didnt attend either.

An MP's salary is just that a salart, Lords are paid expenses and Hanningfield used to clock in/out for the sole purpose of getting 'paid'.

I agree about examples to the young, every day the news is full of banks, energy companies, loan companies, landlords, MP's, Lords, builders, and umpteen other scammers as seen on Watchdog all trying to fleece the hard working public, our MP's normally do sweet FA about it with the exception of people like Stel,la Creasey fighting for consumers rights.

[quote][p][bold]eurodoomed[/bold] wrote:
I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield. And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate. Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.[/p][/quote]This is a different scenario, there are/used to be various Northern Irish MP's who didnt attend either.
An MP's salary is just that a salart, Lords are paid expenses and Hanningfield used to clock in/out for the sole purpose of getting 'paid'.
I agree about examples to the young, every day the news is full of banks, energy companies, loan companies, landlords, MP's, Lords, builders, and umpteen other scammers as seen on Watchdog all trying to fleece the hard working public, our MP's normally do sweet FA about it with the exception of people like Stel,la Creasey fighting for consumers rights.andy:)

This guy has a proven track record of doing "the wrong thing" not only with Colchester's schools but also with his professional and moral judgement. Why would anyone expect a change of behaviour from one so arrogant?

This guy has a proven track record of doing "the wrong thing" not only with Colchester's schools but also with his professional and moral judgement. Why would anyone expect a change of behaviour from one so arrogant?franticmum

'I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.'

Where were you a councillor and why are you no longer a councillor? Do you attend your local council meetings or just those for Basildon?

and why does everything have to come back to you?

This article is not about Kim Gandy it is about Lord Hanningfield who has behaved extraordinarily badly. He should be reported to the Honours Forfeiture Committee who really should remove his title. Anyone else wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

However the real villians are the people at County Hall who passed the 'expenses.' What is happening to them - will they keep their jobs? will they be censured? I doubt it very much.

'I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.'
Where were you a councillor and why are you no longer a councillor? Do you attend your local council meetings or just those for Basildon?
and why does everything have to come back to you?
This article is not about Kim Gandy it is about Lord Hanningfield who has behaved extraordinarily badly. He should be reported to the Honours Forfeiture Committee who really should remove his title. Anyone else wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
However the real villians are the people at County Hall who passed the 'expenses.' What is happening to them - will they keep their jobs? will they be censured? I doubt it very much.cropped hero

a tory doing the right thing, don't make me laugh! all the tories care about is the rich and they treat anyone else like something they have just scraped of the bottom of their expensive shoes. just look at the disgusting way they are treating the sick disabled unemployed and poor.

a tory doing the right thing, don't make me laugh! all the tories care about is the rich and they treat anyone else like something they have just scraped of the bottom of their expensive shoes. just look at the disgusting way they are treating the sick disabled unemployed and poor.roger moore

One rule for the rich and one for the poor, I am paying back money I was overpaid and its a struggle, but it was overpaid so only got myself to blame, why should Lord Hanningfield get off scott free, maybe refuse him any future wages etc until its all back

One rule for the rich and one for the poor, I am paying back money I was overpaid and its a struggle, but it was overpaid so only got myself to blame, why should Lord Hanningfield get off scott free, maybe refuse him any future wages etc until its all backgirlie71

Shoosh1905 wrote:
When are they going to prosecute Bob for his multiple houses, and lack of commuting from a well known commuter town!!

Shoosh, we meet again! Thing is, since king Bob voted against a move to reduce knife crime he has vanished. He voted no because he hasn't the balls to stand up for the people of Colchester - the yellow breasted budgie folded to a Lib dem whip. The reason is just more woolly headed lib dem flawed logic. Russell owes the Jay's mum and the people of bob town an explanation or apology for his ridiculous vote. Someone noted in an earlier thread that bob' s personal publicity machine - the Gaz and County Standard - protected him. I now believe it.
There has been no mention of his vote in any sensible article in these rags, despite the recent tragic history if knife crime in our town. Will someone please explain to me how he gets away with it. I see from this week's CS, bob's guardian angel has put her name to an article about bob being bombastic about a worthless row as to where a meeting is held. Wendy Brading you should be ashamed of such like warm journalism.

[quote][p][bold]Shoosh1905[/bold] wrote:
When are they going to prosecute Bob for his multiple houses, and lack of commuting from a well known commuter town!![/p][/quote]Shoosh, we meet again! Thing is, since king Bob voted against a move to reduce knife crime he has vanished. He voted no because he hasn't the balls to stand up for the people of Colchester - the yellow breasted budgie folded to a Lib dem whip. The reason is just more woolly headed lib dem flawed logic. Russell owes the Jay's mum and the people of bob town an explanation or apology for his ridiculous vote. Someone noted in an earlier thread that bob' s personal publicity machine - the Gaz and County Standard - protected him. I now believe it.
There has been no mention of his vote in any sensible article in these rags, despite the recent tragic history if knife crime in our town. Will someone please explain to me how he gets away with it. I see from this week's CS, bob's guardian angel has put her name to an article about bob being bombastic about a worthless row as to where a meeting is held. Wendy Brading you should be ashamed of such like warm journalism.Angry of Lexden

David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .

David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .karaoke queen

karaoke queen wrote:
David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .

Please give a precis! If facts.

[quote][p][bold]karaoke queen[/bold] wrote:
David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .[/p][/quote]Please give a precis! If facts.Angry of Lexden

karaoke queen wrote:
David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .

Please give a precis! If facts.

I mean what are the facts please?

[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]karaoke queen[/bold] wrote:
David Finch is a hypocrite. He is bleating on about Hanningfield paying back money £50.000 , but on the other hand, Finch and his cabinet have given away £4.million of tax payers money to two government funded academy schools that don't need it. Clearly, after the Deanes School fiasco, they are just bad losers. Its time the lot of them packed their bags. ECC needs to be abolished .[/p][/quote]Please give a precis! If facts.[/p][/quote]I mean what are the facts please?Angry of Lexden

runwellian wrote:
Somebody signed his expense claims without checking ... how about them taking some responsibility?

Runellian, you are absolutely correct. It's fairly obvious the monies will not be recovered. This happened over a long period, the internal and external checks failed to pick it up, either by stupidity or involvement. The external audits concerned need to be challenged and a proper investigation made. If it happened at his level, it's likely to have been repeated elsewhere. May even still be happening.

[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote:
Somebody signed his expense claims without checking ... how about them taking some responsibility?[/p][/quote]Runellian, you are absolutely correct. It's fairly obvious the monies will not be recovered. This happened over a long period, the internal and external checks failed to pick it up, either by stupidity or involvement. The external audits concerned need to be challenged and a proper investigation made. If it happened at his level, it's likely to have been repeated elsewhere. May even still be happening.Angry of Lexden

girlie71 wrote:
One rule for the rich and one for the poor, I am paying back money I was overpaid and its a struggle, but it was overpaid so only got myself to blame, why should Lord Hanningfield get off scott free, maybe refuse him any future wages etc until its all back

It's known as Class...

[quote][p][bold]girlie71[/bold] wrote:
One rule for the rich and one for the poor, I am paying back money I was overpaid and its a struggle, but it was overpaid so only got myself to blame, why should Lord Hanningfield get off scott free, maybe refuse him any future wages etc until its all back[/p][/quote]It's known as Class...John Right

pembury53 wrote:
this chap could sue for harrasment..... the council have dropped the charges, time to move on, bigger fish to fry....

Ah pembuty53 you mean pursuing bob Russell, our lack luster mp for an explanation why he didn't have the balls to vote for a change in knife crime law that might save lives.

[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote:
this chap could sue for harrasment..... the council have dropped the charges, time to move on, bigger fish to fry....[/p][/quote]Ah pembuty53 you mean pursuing bob Russell, our lack luster mp for an explanation why he didn't have the balls to vote for a change in knife crime law that might save lives.Angry of Lexden

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.Angry of Lexden

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.Boris

As a council tax payer, I expect ECC to sue Paul White for that money, and get it. It doesn't matter if it costs half a million to recover £50,000. It is the principle that crime must not be allowed to pay.
And if Finch and his mates do not understand that, it proves that all they want to do is protect their Tory mates, and of course their Chief Executive, who should have been checking White's expenses and refusing to pay for stuff that could not be justified.

As a council tax payer, I expect ECC to sue Paul White for that money, and get it. It doesn't matter if it costs half a million to recover £50,000. It is the principle that crime must not be allowed to pay.
And if Finch and his mates do not understand that, it proves that all they want to do is protect their Tory mates, and of course their Chief Executive, who should have been checking White's expenses and refusing to pay for stuff that could not be justified.Boris

alarminstaller wrote:
He should pay, he does not seem to be short of cash when he sits outside The Queens Head pub in Maldon.
Perhaps next time I see him there I will ask him.

Does he drink and drive?

[quote][p][bold]alarminstaller[/bold] wrote:
He should pay, he does not seem to be short of cash when he sits outside The Queens Head pub in Maldon.
Perhaps next time I see him there I will ask him.[/p][/quote]Does he drink and drive?Hatpeg

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.

[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.[/p][/quote]Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.Angry of Lexden

cropped hero wrote:
'I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.'

Where were you a councillor and why are you no longer a councillor? Do you attend your local council meetings or just those for Basildon?

and why does everything have to come back to you?

This article is not about Kim Gandy it is about Lord Hanningfield who has behaved extraordinarily badly. He should be reported to the Honours Forfeiture Committee who really should remove his title. Anyone else wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

However the real villians are the people at County Hall who passed the 'expenses.' What is happening to them - will they keep their jobs? will they be censured? I doubt it very much.

Gandy was apparently a 'non-political' councillor...yet she will not enlighten people into what that is exactly..perhaps you can ask her next time you read a comment (rant) from her

[quote][p][bold]cropped hero[/bold] wrote:
'I did my bit and never claimed anything in four years. Nor did I ever take or give a brown envelope.'
Where were you a councillor and why are you no longer a councillor? Do you attend your local council meetings or just those for Basildon?
and why does everything have to come back to you?
This article is not about Kim Gandy it is about Lord Hanningfield who has behaved extraordinarily badly. He should be reported to the Honours Forfeiture Committee who really should remove his title. Anyone else wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
However the real villians are the people at County Hall who passed the 'expenses.' What is happening to them - will they keep their jobs? will they be censured? I doubt it very much.[/p][/quote]Gandy was apparently a 'non-political' councillor...yet she will not enlighten people into what that is exactly..perhaps you can ask her next time you read a comment (rant) from herThisYear

eurodoomed wrote:
I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield.
And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate.
Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.

"I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield"

So you agree Hanningfield should be prosecuted

[quote][p][bold]eurodoomed[/bold] wrote:
I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield.
And while we're talking about expenses, where are Tony Blair's. Oh, he shredded them. How very unfortunate.
Meanwhile, fraudster David Laws somehow crawled out of the woodwork to reemerge as an education mionister. What a splendid example to the young.[/p][/quote]"I look forward to the prosecution of Gordon Brown who draws a salary as an MP, but does not attend the Commons, and is therefore just as guilty as Lord Hanningfield"
So you agree Hanningfield should be prosecutedThisYear

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.

OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.

[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.[/p][/quote]Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.[/p][/quote]OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.Boris

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.

OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.

Thanks Boris.

[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.[/p][/quote]Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.[/p][/quote]OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.[/p][/quote]Thanks Boris.Angry of Lexden

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.

OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.

Thanks Boris.

By the way, I admire your support of Russell, and I can understand it. His apparent strength of character in jumping ship reminded me of Churchill. And at the time, I was impressed to the point I actually considered joining the LB. Two of my best mates, now judges, moved to the ld's via the the speech defect party. My problem is that over the recent years I have observed Russell, and in my personal opinion, he has become obsessed with his own image, more than dedicating the £ 100k plus pa he costs the tax payers for to benefit the town, which we don't get. Today he should have made the intervention in parliament which defended the town - instead, silence, this from a guy who claims bounty points for being first in the queue for the queens speech! If he is ill, or suffers from some tragedy at home, I will shut up and support him. But, he still has to explain his weakness on his recent vote against reducing the risk of knife crime. My child was at that party as an invited guest. My child had been devastated by the murder. My child also was press ganged by the police to appear as a witness - there was no anonymity. My child is now terrified

[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.[/p][/quote]Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.[/p][/quote]OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.[/p][/quote]Thanks Boris.[/p][/quote]By the way, I admire your support of Russell, and I can understand it. His apparent strength of character in jumping ship reminded me of Churchill. And at the time, I was impressed to the point I actually considered joining the LB. Two of my best mates, now judges, moved to the ld's via the the speech defect party. My problem is that over the recent years I have observed Russell, and in my personal opinion, he has become obsessed with his own image, more than dedicating the £ 100k plus pa he costs the tax payers for to benefit the town, which we don't get. Today he should have made the intervention in parliament which defended the town - instead, silence, this from a guy who claims bounty points for being first in the queue for the queens speech! If he is ill, or suffers from some tragedy at home, I will shut up and support him. But, he still has to explain his weakness on his recent vote against reducing the risk of knife crime. My child was at that party as an invited guest. My child had been devastated by the murder. My child also was press ganged by the police to appear as a witness - there was no anonymity. My child is now terrifiedAngry of Lexden

roger moore wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.

Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.

Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.

Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.

OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.

Thanks Boris.

By the way, I admire your support of Russell, and I can understand it. His apparent strength of character in jumping ship reminded me of Churchill. And at the time, I was impressed to the point I actually considered joining the LB. Two of my best mates, now judges, moved to the ld's via the the speech defect party. My problem is that over the recent years I have observed Russell, and in my personal opinion, he has become obsessed with his own image, more than dedicating the £ 100k plus pa he costs the tax payers for to benefit the town, which we don't get. Today he should have made the intervention in parliament which defended the town - instead, silence, this from a guy who claims bounty points for being first in the queue for the queens speech! If he is ill, or suffers from some tragedy at home, I will shut up and support him. But, he still has to explain his weakness on his recent vote against reducing the risk of knife crime. My child was at that party as an invited guest. My child had been devastated by the murder. My child also was press ganged by the police to appear as a witness - there was no anonymity. My child is now terrified

Oops, another senior key board moment - I was going on to say that my child is terrified that they will meet one of Redman's mates or relatives. - so what is king bob going to do to make my child feel. And be safer?

[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]roger moore[/bold] wrote:
i haven't yet heard anyone calling hanningfield a scrounger for what he's done, i guess you only receive that title if you are sick disabled unemployed or poor.[/p][/quote]Roger you left out asylum seekers, single mums, oh and, parasitic lib dem mp's for Colchester who don't have the guts to stand up to the party whip and vote for a change in the law to reduce knife crime.[/p][/quote]Angfy, I am so glad you didn't answer my proposal to meet you a few weeks ago (on the topic of the finest building in Essex). With your hate for asylum seekers and single mums you have finally revealed your true colours, as a xenophobic and thoroughly nasty person. I don't care about your boring and repetitive drivel about Bob Russell, which will have as much effect on him as water off a duck's back, but your contempt for people less fortunate than yourself is frankly sickening.[/p][/quote]Hey Boris, my note was written in sarcastic /humour following the previous writers comment. Genuinely sorry if it caused offence.[/p][/quote]OK Angry, apology accepted, and sorry I took you seriously. But I knew you meant it about our MP, because you bang on about him at every opportunity, so I thought you meant all of it.[/p][/quote]Thanks Boris.[/p][/quote]By the way, I admire your support of Russell, and I can understand it. His apparent strength of character in jumping ship reminded me of Churchill. And at the time, I was impressed to the point I actually considered joining the LB. Two of my best mates, now judges, moved to the ld's via the the speech defect party. My problem is that over the recent years I have observed Russell, and in my personal opinion, he has become obsessed with his own image, more than dedicating the £ 100k plus pa he costs the tax payers for to benefit the town, which we don't get. Today he should have made the intervention in parliament which defended the town - instead, silence, this from a guy who claims bounty points for being first in the queue for the queens speech! If he is ill, or suffers from some tragedy at home, I will shut up and support him. But, he still has to explain his weakness on his recent vote against reducing the risk of knife crime. My child was at that party as an invited guest. My child had been devastated by the murder. My child also was press ganged by the police to appear as a witness - there was no anonymity. My child is now terrified[/p][/quote]Oops, another senior key board moment - I was going on to say that my child is terrified that they will meet one of Redman's mates or relatives. - so what is king bob going to do to make my child feel. And be safer?Angry of Lexden