To delete a whole convo could either be done by adding a simple button at the end of the convo to delete . . . or . . . have added a pop up window to delete the whole convo . . . essentially the same that is done with convo threads in a forum . . . which would have left intact individual PM delete capability . . .

As to chat convo's - that could easily have been done by changing the direction of where they are saved . . . in other words - set up a location, not unlike presently exists for normal PM's . . . and direct chat convo's to be saved there . . . this latter example should have been done long ago, before zeta ever came about or was thought of . . .

Frankly, what it looks like is - given Delphi's essential non support of the classic format . . . there was no consideration given to the above . . . thus the outcome of the current PM window reflecting more or less zeta . . .

To me and others - this is nothing more than yet another example that folks are sooner or later being forced into the zeta format . . .

As to forcing zeta . . . it was announced awhile back that all work will now be on the zeta format and essentially little to nothing involving classic . . . that indicates if something affects classic, to bad so sad . . . see it how ya want to . . .

Look, I like Delphi . . . but that doesn't mean that I like everything that Delphi comes up with and or does . . . such as the zeta format, still think it sucks . . . and until classic is pretty much phased out will not be using it . . . and when classic is gone (the best format that Delphi ever had), likely will be gone as well . . .

Take a look at what took place - without any notice Delphi imposed the new PM format/layout . . . all for the notion to set up the ability to delete entire PM conversations . . . they put it online and many folks, including myself expressed dislike (to include folks who use zeta) . . . as well, when they did so it is quite apparent that no one considered that when doing so (wiping out the old PM format), it would eliminate the ability to delete individual messages . . . oops . . . so they go back in and code in deleting of the first 10, with rotating in other PM's as deletions took place . . . then they go back in and code in delete ability for all messages . . . and as the changes rotate across the servers, that will show up . . .

Bottom line the ability to delete entire PM conversations could have easily been added to the old PM format . . . not unlike being able to delete entire conversations in the forums . . . i.e a pop up of "manage discussion" . . . frankly you know that as well as I do . . .

Bottom line the ability to delete entire PM conversations could have easily been added to the old PM format . . . not unlike being able to delete entire conversations in the forums . . . i.e a pop up of "manage discussion" . . . frankly you know that as well as I do . . .

Actually the only thing I do know is that PMs and forum messages (posts) are different. I know sudden change is difficult and many are not going to like it.

thinking more and more about this-- most people would have no reason to need to or want to save chat pms... yet most have good reasons to want to save some or all of a pm conversation - I have to agree that somehow they could have separated the two things.

I have been to other chat places and none of the pms have ever had to be deleted or cleared.

Yet if a pm is sent through the persons profile, there is that choice to save or delete.