Liveblog: Kings win 2-1 in OT, head home up two

Jeff Carter, quiet for most of the night, showed some hustle and beat Martin Brodeur to the stick side, 14 minutes into overtime.
Los Angeleses of the final in OT, which has won both gam is 10-0 on the road in the playoffs.
The Kings charter home after the game with an early stranglehold on the series.

And L’Antichambre says Patrick Roy is out of the picture for the Canadiens head coaching job.

Sounds good, sign him up. Heck, I’d be fine with Hal Gill re-upping if it meant the kids get to play together in the AHL without being brought up and expected to be the saviours next season.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

Now if you could just convince him that he would like to be a head coach again, since he stepped down from this position as he did not enjoy the stress levels that came with it. I am good with him being HC, just not sure he is good with being an HC.

Actually Rad, Larry is one of the English-speaking Canadiens of the seventies who made the effort to learn enough French to converse with the kid behind the counter at the dépanneur when he’s picking up a loaf of bread, and enough to be interviewed between periods by Lionel Duval on La Soirée du Hockey. He, along with Steve Shutt, Bob Gainey and Ken Dryden were my heroes for being able to explain how even though the Leafs were six goals down they still needed to work hard in the third period.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

I don’t really believe Columbus drafts Galchenyuk, they have been burnt badly by Zherdev and Filatov. While I recognize the Galchenyuk scenario is different (born in the U.S.) the hockey fans in Columbus will probably view him as just another Russian.

I suspect they go Forsberg or Murray. What we have to be concerned about is that they may trade down to a Toronto per se in order to accomplish this.

I would like to think now that we have a GM who no longer believes all trades must occur with Calgary and Nashville only that perhaps this conversation is taking place between them.

Edmonton and Columbus are both in need of a blue chip defenseman. And funny enough, Edmonton’s head scout said today that Galchenyuk isn’t among their five considerations for the top overall pick. He cited Yakupov, Murray, Reinhart, Forsberg and Grigorenko.

The talk of trading up one or two spots in this draft is silly. It would be a terrible decision to trade the #3 overall pick in any way to move up. Trading a package to acquire the second or first overall that doesn’t include the #3 overall? Yeah, awesome, depending on the return. Yakupov, Galchenyuk and Grigorenko. Take your chances with the highest player among those three on your board when you’re on the clock.

***************************************
Our GM doesn’t need to leave his tie undone to create the impression that he’s working hard!

If Edmonton or Columbus use one of their selections on Galchenyuk it isn’t the end of the World folks.

No need to go sending other draft picks or prospects to one of those teams to move up a tiny bit in an effort to get “your guy”.

Let the draft come to you. If Yakupov and Galchenyuk go in front of the Habs, you still have Grigorenko and Forsberg sitting there. And if you don’t like what’s left on the board with a #3 pick, trade out of it. I’m sure that there will be a great number of teams willing to part with a lot to get the highest rated defenseman in the draft.

You could potentially flip that #3 overall pick into a big package.

*************************************
Our GM doesn’t need to leave his tie undone to create the impression that he’s working hard!

The only trade I would contemplate would be #3 to Edmonton for #1, potentially dealing one of our younger depth defencemen (Diaz or Weber?) to the Oilers for the pick that I think they would very much like to divest themself of while still hoping to land Murray.

I think Yakupov fits the single most glaring need of the Habs: a high-scoring winger.

We have three capable centres (Plekanec, Desharnais and Eller) that should be here for another 3-4 years. Why are we pushing to acquire another centre?

Bourque may or may not rediscover his 25 goal form in Montreal. But both Gionta and Cole have 2-3 years left, and there are no wingers in the system that look like automatic NHL players (with apologies to Gallagher). Leblanc and White are converted centers, while Bournival will probably follow that route as well.

The team needs a goal-scorer…we haven’t had a guy pop 40 goals since Vincent Damphousse in 1993-94. Yakupov is the only talent in this draft that has the potential to be a 40-50 goal guy in the NHL.

I think our centres are actually fine if they are surrounded with wingers that know what to do with the puck when they get it.

All players in our system will be reevaluated and processed by our new team of management and coaches.
Things are going to look quite different to be sure, come training camp. All the speculation will soon be over and we can get down to the business of putting a solid product on the ice.

Columbus is definitely the unknown factor with the number 2 pick. It would be a real shame to let Alex Galchenyuk “get away”. What about the Habs making a deal with Columbus ( eg; a defense prospect, which the Bluejackets badly need ), to insure they pick some other player, or swap 2012 drafting positions with Montreal, which would basically amount to the same thing? Or, do you feel that Forsberg or Grigorenko would still fit the Habs’ requirements for some strength up front? I can’t see drafting Murray, unless Bergevin already has a solid trade lined up for afterwards.

Bergevin then trades Murray and Pleks to Colombus for Nash and Colombus’s 1st rounder in next years draft. Which could work out to getting the 1st round pick in next years draft, and Nash. Would you do that? Are you a gambler?

Why would Montreal draft Murray and then trade him? Why not just trade the pick?

First. If you’re going to acquire Nash you don’t give up that #3 overall pick. Nash comes with a huge cap hit where the #3 overall pick comes with a cap hit no higher than the league maximum on entry level deals($925,000 I believe).

The Blue Jackets are in desperate need of immediate help. Plekanec by himself isn’t nearly enough to accomplish that goal. They need an upgrade in net, more depth pieces on defense and they’ll need a replacement for Nash on the wing.

The package they were reportedly looking for was a goalie, winger, prospect and draft pick.

Something like Bernier, Penner, Toffoli and 1st rounder from the Kings.

Or Rask, Marchand, Spooner and 1st from the Bruins.

The asking price may be unbelievably high but until they move him for less you have to assume that somebody will overpay. Somebody always does.

If you’re looking for a blockbuster. Look to Chicago. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Stan Bowman is looking to get a King’s ransom for Patrick Kane out of Marc Bergevin.

*********************************************
Our GM doesn’t need to leave his tie undone to create the impression that he’s working hard!

Louis’ in Hamilton next season. Let him dominate in the AHL, mature physically, and then in 2013 in training camps we see if kids can win jobs.

Especially with the looming lockout, we should be more concerned about the Bulldogs than the Canadiens’ roster. Let’s try to put together a team that can grow and learn together, like the Sherbrooke Canadiens of the eighties who won the Calder Cup and then graduated half a dozen players to the ’86 and ’89 teams.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

I may sound like a dick here but did anyone else find the interviews with Brett Lawrie of the Jays about the shooting absolutely rediculous? I was absolutely appalled that someone was killed, a young boy fighting for his life and 6 others injured and He is talking about how he was “the first one outta there” and how he is Ok while not mentioning the actual victims. It struck me as just weird. There were 100’s of other people who were at the mall and ran out as well but I think the part that would shock you the most would be what actually happened to people.

Then the media praising him cause he sent out a tweet saying there was gun shots…..after hearing how intelligent his comments were I can put money down he was just tweeting that and not sending it out as a warning to stay away from Eaton’s centre

He is no hero so I am not sure why he was getting press on it…he is just full of himself

Yah, it was kind of strange how he was almost immortalized for tweeting about it. We live in a strange time. I am far more pissed however, that these fricking gang members shoot each other in public. At least the Hell’s Angels had the decency to shoot rival gang members away from the public. Of course the wheels of justice will now begin to turn and 5 years later we will find out that the shooter will have already served most of his sentence and will be released in 6 months.

The whole world’s going to hell in a hand basket.
When you read that a butcher kills a foreign student, cuts him up, and posts the whole thing on Youtube for the world to watch, and the owner of the website sees nothing wrong with keeping it on….
I’m at a loss. I guess we’re just getting too old for this stuff Gerry.

I sort of agree. But i don’t think it’s on Lawrie, I think it’s on the media… Some of the reports seemed very close to painting him as a hero, and they were talking about how traumatic is was for him… Heck, the Sun even used his Twitter photo (online) with the story… I’m sure someone else got a shot of the scene without the window glare… y’know one of them professional guys what with their cameras and payroll…

I have to agree with that assessment.
I was following Tony Marinaro from TSN 990 for a while, but he either re-tweets just about anything, or tweets how wonderful he is.
And then, as you say, there are the tweet twits!

I think it’s a status thing. And apparently, if you don’t have many followers, it’s not worth following you on Twitter.
I have an account specifically to follow sports journalists.
And quite frankly, I don’t care who does or doesn’t follow me, as long as my real friends and family do….and the HIO crowd too!

I am happy to say, Eff Twitter! Don’t have an account never will. I do look at TSN.ca to see what the hockeys tweet, but that is the extent. Why can’t they just send their information to TSN and post it, is beyond me. I hate Twitter. And yes I am stuck in the wrong generation.

Haha, sliding lil’ St-Denis in with the other 4. Funny stuff.St.Denis is the small, soft, ineffective type that I hope the Habs will try to get rid of at the back end. We had too many of those in the line up last year…

Because it’s not the scenario I was discussing. Murray is rated higher than Grigs at the moment, it’s not unfeasible to surmise that the Habs could take him. I’m not saying I think that’s gonna happen, just discussing the possibility.

If we could acquire enough first-round picks, we could slot in Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Girgensons. Acquire all Johnsons. Acquire Ryan Johansen and Marcus Johannson and listen to Cole screw those up over and over. I’m sure more could be done, but this would probably be enough to make old man Cole’s head explode.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

How about a lineup of sons of former NHL’ers? Jeff Tambellini, Jared Tinordi, the Folignos, throw in a Filip Forsberg in there, poor Bob won’t know a Jared from a Mark. Heck, I regularly make that mistake. Everything will be happening.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

Or, maybe Greg Adams and Greg C. Adams have both had sons by now, twin boys who are coming up through the ranks, and they have fortuitously both named their twins Adam and Greg. So now we’d have Adam Adams and Greg Adams Jr., and Adam C. Adams and Greg C. Adams Jr.

Still might not be enough to get him to retire.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

Power play should be Alex Kovalev, Ilya Kovalchuk, Saku Koivu, Mikko Koivu, and Igor Kravchuk.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

If you include Habs first pick this season…. well, you gotta be kiddin’! The Blue Jackets will never go for it. And I don’t want to swap bad contracts even though Columbus is getting some production from Nash.

ed, this isn’t peculiar to Montréal. The vast majority of protest movements and popular uprisings in the Northern Hemisphere occur in the spring and summer months. Extra credit goes to those who march and protest in poor weather, but it’s not surprising or a historical anomaly that the students in Montréal get a better turnout when it’s not raining.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

I am surprised, however, I would have to assume that he has the right to leave if offered an NHL Head Coaching position. He is widely viewed as an excellent potential NHL Head Coach. He has to realize Carlyle is not going anywhere for a while.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

Just being a grammar nerd here shiram. There is an important distinction though, the meaning changes if we use the proper ‘fewer’. If we use ‘less’, it means that Dallas Eakins is not as anglo as others, maybe he eats croissants instead of scones.

My Intro to Philosophy teacher at Concordia stopped me in my tracks with this point once, it’s always stuck with me.

———————————
In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

Is anyone against bringing Brad Stawbitz back next season?
I’m not, I think he and White will looke varry cool together!
We only got to see them together a little bit at the end of the season. It was really obvious that we didn’t get pushed around after we got Stawbitz.
Also all his teammates really like him, remember when he scored that goal?
Stawbitz, White, and maybe a Shut down dmen will bring some toughness to this team, I see know reason that anyone wouldn’t want him back.

I have no problems bringing him back, he would obviously be aware that he may not dress all games. I am hopeful Ryan White will look better next year. Clearly his injury and the rehab prevented him from showing his best form. We have a number of players this offseason who can hopefully train for the upcoming year instead of rehab. White, Eller, Leblanc, Markov, Gomez. (skill testing question one of those names perhaps doesn’t fit)

Good question.
It would appear that GM and company are more patient than Habs fans.
I don’t see the need to rush into it either.
The Devils didn’t sign Deboer until July of last year, and look at what patient and astute resolve has brought them.

In my opinion, I think it would be beneficial for both the franchise and the prospects attending the rookie summer camp (mid-June I believe) to have a coach named before then.

It will offer the coach a good look at the prospects coming thru the system. The prospects could gain a better understanding of what the coach is expecting and, in turn, adjust their learning goals accordingly.

Other than that, I see no need to rush. Just a small benefit.

_______________________________
Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

Two things to consider;
1 – Bergevin has said that he will not make a coaching announcement during the finals unless approved by Betman.

2 – Maybe there are one, or two possible coaches that Bergevin wants to talk to but their teams are in the final.

Maybe they have decided on Therrien, and are waiting on league approval to make the announcement. There are too many possible scenarios. Maybe a condition of being head coach is to have Robinson as an assistant and they can’t speak to Robinson until the finals are over!

Whoever gets the job, I’ll bet the comments will be split down the middle, half against and half for the new coach.

Two things to consider;
1 – Bergevin has said that he will not make a coaching announcement during the finals unless approved by Betman.

2 – Maybe there are one, or two possible coaches that Bergevin wants to talk to but theur teams are in the final.

Maybe they have decided on Therrien, and are waiting on leasgue approval to make the announcement. There are too many possible scenarios. Maybe a condition of being head coach is to have Robinson as an assistant and they can’t speak to Robinson until the finals are over!

Whoever gets the job, I’ll bet the comments will be split down the middle, half against and half for the new coach.

The other benefit of Crawford is, if he is succesful in Montreal, a Crawford Designed Chia Pet in his likeness would probably sell very well near Christmas time. Another income source for the team perhaps, no? 🙂

Yeah it sure looked that way, using his friendship with Pleks to garner attention on MTL and all.
He could be a decent plug on the 2nd/3rd line, but a very short term solution. Might as well have one of the kids playing there.

Looked to me like his body was out of steam come playoffs time. He absolutely helped that Flyer lineup last year. If he were a defenceman he would be the perfect stop gap for the Habs as we await Tinordi, Nash, Beaulieu etc…

Not sure what he does for Habs except take us further away from Nathan MacKinnon. 🙂

I can’t see Denis Savard having a chance at this point. As much as they know him, and were in with him. If he was the pick he would have been chosen already. Bergevin moved very quickly on the people he knew and wanted to surround himself with. I just don’t think it makes sense for him to drag it out with someone he knows. It does not follow the actions he has taken thus far.

I think Therrien thinks he has the job.
I think that they are dragging their feet to allow Crawford to be as French as possible could very easily be happening. he wouldn’t be immersing himself, if he didn’t think he had a good shot.
I think Roy is the right choice, but I doubt he is picked.

I like that MB is going about this in a thoughtful manner though. It will probably be Crawford at this point (uggghhhh)