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Heterosexual and homosexual are clinical terms. The term "gay" is associated with a cultural identity, where homosexual and heterosexual are descriptions of behavior or attraction. There are men who have sex with men, and women who have sex with women, under certain circumstance that would not identify themselves as gay or lesbian. I wasn't using those terms to insult anyone, I was using them because they are more accurate. You may find the terms offensive but I think they are completely appropriate given the topic of this thread.

Breeder is a slang term and is supposed to be insulting.

Heterosexual and homosexual are clinical terms, and do agree with that, it just really doesn't fit in today's society, all other derogatory slang-terms are completely inappropriate, and we all know what they are, so I won't post them in here, to explain anything else...enough said

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"it's so nice to be insane, cause no-one ask you to explain" Helen Reddy cc 1974

I think I liked this thread much better when Matty and I were discussing whether gays were genetically or biologically created (though I still don't see the big difference there, in layman's terms ) or nurtured into being. At least that seemed to be a little bit closer to the topic/article I originally posted about.

SO I take it thatn that many of you don't agree that gay uncles prepetuate their genes by nuturing and encouraging their families to breed procreate, thus resulting in more "homosexuals" being born?

breeder is NOT slang. It is a legitmate word. Plants, animals and people all breed and/or can be bred. It refers to the biological acts of procreation that result in further generations of said plant, animals or persons. I am not responsible for people that have twisted the meaning of of a legitimate word into some sort of offensive slang.

mikie(who always thought he was just born "gay")

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

Ann was merely pointing out the contradiction in Leatherman complaining about a harmless (and not unfunny) joke by Shaun as offensve then using a term of derision such as "breeder" himself.

harmless and "not unfunny" in YOUR opinion. I was offended, obviously like some of you were offended by my choice of the word "breed". So it's okay to insinuate that gays/homosexuals/faggots "recruit" people into being "homosexual"; but not okay to say that straight people breed/procreate/produce offspring.

thanks for clarifying all that. now I reallly do need that list of things that "might" offend y'all so that I don't step on your toes; but please go ahead and stomp on mine.

mikie(whose delicate sensiblities have been offended now )

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

breeder is NOT slang. It is a legitmate word. Plants, animals and people all breed and/or can be bred. It refers to the biological acts of procreation that result in further generations of said plant, animals or persons.

harmless and "not unfunny" in YOUR opinion. I was offended, obviously like some of you were offended by my choice of the word "breed". So it's okay to insinuate that gays/homosexuals/faggots "recruit" people into being "homosexual"; but not okay to say that straight people breed/procreate/produce offspring.

thanks for clarifying all that. now I reallly do need that list of things that "might" offend y'all so that I don't step on your toes; but please go ahead and stomp on mine.

mikie(whose delicate sensiblities have been offended now )

Just because you find something offensive doesn't make it wrong. It just means that you didn't get the joke.

There's an old gay rights slogan: 10% is not enough - Convert and Recruit! that's the place Shaun was coming from.

Another example would be the last episode of a 90s sitcom called Ellen where the title character did a skit about lesbian "recruitment" and a toaster oven. I believe that meme lives on in these forums in a couple of forms.

We often play on the homophobic notion of gay recruitment for humorous effect.

So your offence was misplaced.

There's a difference between someone cracking a joke you don't get and you slinging a perjorative like "breeder" around. And don't try that "breeder-is-just-a-word" defence either. You know exactly what it means and how offensive it's calculated to be.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking up for the heterosexuals. They can look after themselves, but this idea that "breeder" is some twee little term used by charmingly Wildean gay chaps is simply untrue.

Where I come from the "breeder" is the shortened version. The full insult here is "breeder filth". It is designed to deeply offensive. And it's known to be. You don't even have to have heard it before to instantly know you're being run down.

My point? Don't be surprised if some folk get all fucked up when you use it.

There's a difference between someone cracking a joke you don't get and you slinging a perjorative like "breeder" around. And don't try that "breeder-is-just-a-word" defence either. You know exactly what it means and how offensive it's calculated to be.

So you think you know what I think? Why that's awesome that you can read my mind! I hope you're reading what I'm saying to you now in my head. I have already told you how I understand the word, just because you "think" it means something else does not make me wrong. If you really knew me, you would never think I meant it offensively, so please don't try to say that you know how I think, as obviously you do not. Stick to the muck in your own mind.

There's an old gay rights slogan: 10% is not enough - Convert and Recruit! that's the place Shaun was coming from.

maybe old gays in austrailia. I'm never heard that before. And quite honestly, gays in the southern part of America, the bible belt, would never say something like that. Slogans like that would get a lynch mob after you pretty quick.

evolution says that people are just evolved animals. personally if more people cared about "breeding" (ie what genetics they were passing along), or "social breeding" or being "in-bred", etc (looky there! other uses of that same word. are those offensive too?) maybe we'd have healthier people on the planet by now.

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

You really find the terms heterosexual and homosexual offensive? I could say I find the term human being offensive because I think people is much more modern, but that's just silly. Words have meaning as long as they in use in the modern lexicon. I actually think gay is a little bit weird because older people still use gay as a synonym for happy and queer as a synonym for weird. I die a little bit inside when someone refers to themselves as queer, because in my mind it's like they just called themselves weird. It's also a stupid way to try to claim yet another term to define sexual identity which is mostly a hopeless cause anyway.

The article (before all this got derailed) was about Uncles caring for the offspring of their siblings. Who share 50% of their DNA and thus the ability to carry on their genes. The author of the article intimated that if being gay is genetic this is their only way to "procreate" sort of vicariously.

evolution says that people are just evolved animals. personally if more people cared about "breeding" (ie what genetics they were passing along), or "social breeding" or being "in-bred", etc (looky there! other uses of that same word. are those offensive too?) maybe we'd have healthier people on the planet by now.

Well Mikie, I guess the next time you refer to straight folks as animal husbandry practitioners, I can refer to you as a bundle of sticks.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Since Skeebs needs clarification on things I thought I would clear this one up.

F.U.C.K. was an acronym that was placed on the top board of the stocks used in the early colonial days of this country to punish someone "For Unauthorized Carnal Knowledge". Seems like the early Christians gave us this cool and usefull word, for which I am eternally grateful. Somehow, between now and then, it has also become a "bad" word by the same crowd. Oh republican Christains.

Hope this clears it up for you Thomas. :O

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The Bible contains 6 admonishments to homosexuals,and 362 to heterosexuals.This doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals, It's just that they need more supervision.Lynn Lavne

Since Skeebs needs clarification on things I thought I would clear this one up.

F.U.C.K. was an acronym that was placed on the top board of the stocks used in the early colonial days of this country to punish someone "For Unauthorized Carnal Knowledge". Seems like the early Christians gave us this cool and usefull word, for which I am eternally grateful. Somehow, between now and then, it has also become a "bad" word by the same crowd. Oh republican Christains.

Hope this clears it up for you Thomas. :O

That's an urban legend. The actual etymology of the word is unknown although my money is on a dialect of Norwegian which uses Fukka as a verb meaning to copulate.

Since Skeebs needs clarification on things I thought I would clear this one up.

F.U.C.K. was an acronym that was placed on the top board of the stocks used in the early colonial days of this country to punish someone "For Unauthorized Carnal Knowledge". Seems like the early Christians gave us this cool and usefull word, for which I am eternally grateful. Somehow, between now and then, it has also become a "bad" word by the same crowd. Oh republican Christains.

That's an urban legend. The actual etymology of the word is unknown although my money is on a dialect of Norwegian which uses Fukka as a verb meaning to copulate.

"Fuck" does NOT stand for "for unlawful carnal knowledge" or"fornication under consent of the king". It is not an acronym foranything at all.

It is a very old word, recorded in English since the 15thcentury (few acronyms predate the 20th century), with cognatesin other Germanic languages. The Random House HistoricalDictionary of American Slang (Random House, 1994, ISBN0-394-54427-7) cites Middle Dutch fokken = "to thrust, copulatewith"; Norwegian dialect fukka = "to copulate"; and Swedishdialect focka = "to strike, push, copulate" and fock = "penis".Although German ficken may enter the picture somehow, it isproblematic in having e-grade, or umlaut, where all the others haveo-grade or zero-grade of the vowel.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Since Skeebs needs clarification on things I thought I would clear this one up.

F.U.C.K. was an acronym that was placed on the top board of the stocks used in the early colonial days of this country to punish someone "For Unauthorized Carnal Knowledge". Seems like the early Christians gave us this cool and usefull word, for which I am eternally grateful. Somehow, between now and then, it has also become a "bad" word by the same crowd. Oh republican Christains.

Hope this clears it up for you Thomas. :O

I apologise for the error, and back out of the room to my corner. I should have known I was wrong, and refrain from revisiting this thread. Assholes!

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The Bible contains 6 admonishments to homosexuals,and 362 to heterosexuals.This doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals, It's just that they need more supervision.Lynn Lavne

Tom that was sad to hear. He had that operation and was doing well then the next thing you heard was that he passed away. You never know.

Out of all the guys he was my favorite one. His boys gave him hell, but one thing you could tell is he loved the ground they walked on. He was always concerned about them and it was this concern, IMO that got him back out there far too early after the scare they had last season with that clot in his lung.

However , we discussed this earlier - you included. They are "fuckers" not "assholes". Though no one has yet to give me that list of approved/unapproved words, I do know that Skeebo helped us find out that no one has challenged the epithet "fucker". Why even a moderator has tacitly given approval of that word by continuing the "discussion" along those lines rather than trying to guide this train wreck back to the original topic.

Now all you fuckers can go back to fucking discussing whatever the fuck it is that you fucking want to discuss, since hardly any of your fuckers seem the least fucking bit to be interested in talking about the fucking topic.

Happy Valentine's Day Assholes and/or Fuckers!(take your pick. we're sure to find out which one is more offensive soon. LOL)

leatherman aka the Fucking Great Big Bundle of Sticks (who is in a good mood cause he's gonna go get laid today and who as the OP really hopes some line has been crossed enough now to get a reasonable moderator to close this thread )

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

leatherman aka the Fucking Great Big Bundle of Sticks (who is in a good mood cause he's gonna go get laid today and who as the OP really hopes some line has been crossed enough now to get a reasonable moderator to close this thread )

I'm sure glad I moved from OH to SC. Though we just had 3 inches of sn@w on Friday (even down at Myrtle Beach!), it was all melted by today. However up in the part of OH where I was living, they have 36 inches of sn@w on the ground and you know that shit ain't melting until April