Came back up to NJ to help my brother in law and nephew get some deer. First a nice breakfast then 4 little pushes, 2 drivers and 2 standers. Got 4. Was a fun day and some great memories. My nephew brought his son and he had a blast too.Sometimes get hung up on the size of the rack and not focused on the memories. They were happy with their bucks and that is all that matters, that and some great memories.