People are constantly asking, should I upgrade to the Sidekick 2008 if I have a Sidekick LX? Well it depends on what you’re looking for. Here’s our opinion, feel free to leave yours in the comments:

If you already have a Sidekick LX, you’re not going to gain much by getting a Sidekick 2008. You’ll basically get a slightly better camera, but lose the LED flash. If fashion in the form of replaceable shells is your thing and you’ve got money to burn, go for it. But you’re probably better off just grabbing some Sidekick LX gel skins or a lens frame. Then again if you feel like the LX is too big or heavy, then you can drop a few ounces if you pick up a 2008.

134 Responses to “Sidekick 2008/Gekko vs Sidekick LX”

heres the deal… my gf bought the 2008 today and ive had my lx for a year. when i got my lx from having a sk2 for ever i opened the box and was impressed it was amazing huge screen beautiful finish amazing. when i opened the box with her today for the gecko it was….well…unimpressive. i picked it up and it felt light and cheap and and the plastic finish thats around the screen feels cheap. IF YOUVE HAD A SIDEKICK FOR A WHILE like me since the 2 then youll notice that the buttons that scroll up and down page the hang up and call buttons are now much smaller and not as usable. The headphone jack is strangly on the top of the devise wich makes me think it would be more uncomfortable to put in your pocket and listen to music. the screen resolution is admitedly better but the screen altho not. seems significantly smaller. the d pad looks tacky and cheap and feels that way and MY BIGGEST PET PEVE ON THIS THING IS!!!! that the keyboard actually got just a bit smaller so if youve been using a sklx then youll notice that typing is awkward altho im sure youll get used to using it quickly. also the trackball is sunkin in a little more than the one on the sklx wich feels funny at first. so my deal is trackball feels wierd buttons got smaller materials feel cheaper the device is lighter wich makes it feel flimsy and as insignificant the screen got smaller and as silly as it seems where the hell are my LED LIGHTS!!! ALSO PLEASE take note that the camera IS BETTER BUT THERE IS NO FLASH so if you want to take pix in the dim light forget it…..

thats my review. so in closing dont do it stick with your lx youll be happy you did wait till the sk3g comes out….

I like the screen of the LX but not too impressed with the flat box look
the Sidekick 2008 looks more better quality but i hear its not?
although i like the fact that it has more on board ram, but does it make a difference?
I dont know unless i touch and play with both, but i am leaning more towards the 2008,
But man the nice large screen on the lx….. is what most want.
can’t decide.

Yeah. In my experience, I have had both…the gekko/2008 and the lx, they are very different. There might not even be a sk3g so don’t go getting your hopes up, if your one of the people who got the lx when it first came out I don’t think you will be too disapointed with the 2008. Although the 2008 model is not 3g it still has pretty fast internet speed for a mobile device. Btw for the record I typed all of this out on a sidekick 2008 so don’t even try to use the keyboard as an excuse to make the lx look better. The fact is you lx users just don’t want to admit you don’t have the most hip new sidekick anymore and that a new higher end model has come out. I mean seriously, you can make your own fricken case.

@dustin
the onbord ram does help a bit its not as laggy as the lx can be sometimes but if you restart your lx every couple days the lag never really becomes a problem. i never said that the keyboard on the 2008 wasnt unusable i just said that youll notice the difference and it takes getting used to. lol please dont take my critique out of context. I think it would be safe to assume that there will be a 3g sidekick considering tmobile is launching a 3g network lol but course that is speculation. and i would hardly call the 2008 hip to the untrained eye its almost identical if you dont know what a sidekick is and if your trying to be hip you should probably have gotten the iphone3g ps i would hardly call the 2008 “higher end” smaller screen cheaper feel and no flash on a camera is not high end enjoy your new phone

I don’t give a damn about the new 2008 Sidekick… I just want a friggin update. Its *** how the LX still hasn’t came out with a better OTA for our ringers or speaker phone. Its a damn shame they brought out this new rinky dink phone that does better **** than the phone we spent hundreds of bucks on when they may possibly give this phone out free with a 2 year contract. I feel robbed to be honest. T-Mobile sucks… Yup I said it dammit; they suck. LOL!

How about the fact that the 08 is the pedocessor of the ID , you complain about it as if it is the pedocessor of the LX. Compare it to the ID, how much better is it. =D

THANK YOU DANIEL! I don’t think people realize that it is the predecessor to the ID! That is why they discontinued the ID to sell this. If they were going to try and top the LX they would have stopped selling the LX altogether. =p

Man, I just bought my LX July 21, 2008. I still have time to return it to get the sk 2008. I just dont know if it’s worth it. I guess I will have to go up to T-mobile and play with it inorder to see. Im new to T-mobile. I was on fricken AT&T! Someone help me!

How about the fact that the 08 is the pedocessor of the ID , you complain about it as if it is the pedocessor of the LX. Compare it to the ID, how much better is it. =D

THANK YOU DANIEL! I don’t think people realize that it is the predecessor to the ID! That is why they discontinued the ID to sell this. If they were going to try and top the LX they would have stopped selling the LX altogether. =p

Man, I just bought my LX July 21, 2008. I still have time to return it to get the sk 2008. I just dont know if it’s worth it. I guess I will have to go up to T-mobile and play with it inorder to see. Im new to T-mobile. I was on fricken AT&T! Someone help me!

How about the fact that the 08 is the pedocessor of the ID , you complain about it as if it is the pedocessor of the LX. Compare it to the ID, how much better is it. =D

THANK YOU DANIEL! I don’t think people realize that it is the predecessor to the ID! That is why they discontinued the ID to sell this. If they were going to try and top the LX they would have stopped selling the LX altogether. =p

the screens the perfect size on the lx imo, any smaller i wouldnt live. all my friends who have an id and sk3 are getting the 2008. I have to admit to jump from the id to that, i cant wait for the next jump. I hope microsoft and sharp to some magic to the next one

i had the SK LX and just picked up the SK 2008. in my opinion the 2008 is better.. the only difference is that it is smaller than the LX. the screen is smaller but has the same resolution making it look clearer even if not as big.. it feels a lot better. although typing on a smaller surface will take getting used to it is still pretty much the same experience. the 2008 is not even comparable to the id because it has all the features the lx has and better including the 2.0mp camera which does look considerably better. all in all i believe that i found a better device. the color options are also a plus.

honestly ive tested every single sidekcik since the original 1 even before it had color. the sk 2 for a while was considered the best functional sk even wen the 3 released and i think tmobile wanted to go back to a phone that was very function able like the 2. went he lx came out it was a great phone because of the high resolution screen and it wasnt jus a phone in which people bought because of its looks. the d pad and buttons along with the ability to send pictures and sure the web faster was a huge factor and a plus for it but it still felt like it lacked in some way. the tony hawk lx is a very good phone because it has the ota already built in to your sidekick so it’ll work different on the tony hawk instead of the lx in a better way. BUT for me i will be purchasing a tmobile sidekick 2008 because ive followed it for a while n the that who also has followed it as me knows that it is the successor of the sk id NOT THE LX…IF IT WAS IT WOULD BE MORE MONEY AND HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE PARTS INSTEAD OF SHELLS…the only difference in both the lx and 2008 are that the lx has betta parts spent on making it look good..they both have similar software. i jus need a sk thats gonna do anything i want that the lx dose and be a little cheaper and thinner to carry around cuz i will purchase a 4gb memory stick for music on it…one thing that i have noticed on the 2008 that is a lil sad is that it dosent have its own pouch yet or tmobile will send a pouch eventually

honestly ive tested every single sidekcik since the original 1 even before it had color. the sk 2 for a while was considered the best functional sk even wen the 3 released and i think tmobile wanted to go back to a phone that was very function able like the 2. went he lx came out it was a great phone because of the high resolution screen and it wasnt jus a phone in which people bought because of its looks. the d pad and buttons along with the ability to send pictures and sure the web faster was a huge factor and a plus for it but it still felt like it lacked in some way. the tony hawk lx is a very good phone because it has the ota already built in to your sidekick so it’ll work different on the tony hawk instead of the lx in a better way. BUT for me i will be purchasing a tmobile sidekick 2008 because ive followed it for a while n the that who also has followed it as me knows that it is the successor of the sk id NOT THE LX…IF IT WAS IT WOULD BE MORE MONEY AND HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE PARTS INSTEAD OF SHELLS…the only difference in both the lx and 2008 are that the lx has betta parts spent on making it look good..they both have similar software. i jus need a sk thats gonna do anything i want that the lx dose and be a little cheaper and thinner to carry around cuz i will purchase a 4gb memory stick for music on it…one thing that i have noticed on the 2008 that is a lil sad is that it dosent have its own pouch yet or tmobile will send a pouch eventually

How about the fact that the 08 is the pedocessor of the ID , you complain about it as if it is the pedocessor of the LX. Compare it to the ID, how much better is it. =D

THANK YOU DANIEL! I don’t think people realize that it is the predecessor to the ID! That is why they discontinued the ID to sell this. If they were going to try and top the LX they would have stopped selling the LX altogether. =p

the person who has a 2008 is going to say its better than the lx but the person who has an lx is going to say its better than the 2008.

its personal prefrence i guess

in my opinion thoguh i think they lx is better than the 2008 bcz thinmk about it the lx is slimmer i think it has a cooler more modern look the screen is bigger it has camera with a flash all the things the 2008 have and more the screen on the 2008 may be crisper and has a 2.0 mexapixel camera but thats it. the lx has led mood lights which are a relle kool look and design i think that a fone should have. so honestly i would say go with the lx and keep it if ur thinknig about upgrading i mean downgrading lol.

people stop comparing the 08 and the lx. they are not from the same sk line. the sk 08 is actually the sk id 2 and the sk lx is actually the sk 4. there is going to be an sk 5 that comes out in december. now, just you wait and see and then compare it to the lx.

that is the sk i am excited for and i am saving up for. of course i would prefer a 3g sk but that may take another year. who knows cuz not me. so if i hear about a 3g sk coming out next year, i may even skip the sk 5, maybe just temporarily get an 08 since by december the price will be down, and then wait to buy the 3g sk. man im so excited!

The sidekick 2008 is just an update to the old sidekick I’d. Its NOT an update to the lx. If it was an update to the lx they would have stopped selling the lx altogether. I walked into the tmobile store last nite and compared the sidekick 2008 and the sidekick lx side by side. The sidekick 2008 feels cheap and the plasticy materials are very flimsy. The lx feels much sturdier and the lx also looks elegant with that dark midnight blue. That yellow color on the sidekick 2008 just makes the fone look tacky. The 2008 has a good keypad but I prefer the one on the lx. The screen on the lx is better too. The camera on the 2008 is slightly better than the one on the lx but it has no flash so you can only take pictures in well-lit places. So the flash on the lx definately makes it an advantage. The os is the same, if you’ve ever used a sidekick you know what I’m talkin about. Last night I asked the representative at the tmobile store which sidekick was better and he told me that the 2008 is just a follow-up to the sidekick I’d. He said that personally he preffered the lx. I also preffered the lx. So I ended up buying a blue lx. And I know it might seem kind of stupid but the blue mood lights on the corners of the lx made it another advantage over the 2008. The keypad on the lx is so great to type on. I just wrote all this stuff off my shiny new blue sidekick lx.

well i got my LX on the 25 and i’ve been waiting to get it. and before i know it, a new sidekick comes out. i’m not saying that i want the new sidekick im just asking what’s a better choice. The lx may not be the new sidekick but it’s one of the recent ones…doesn’t that count for anything?

I have both phones in my hand right now. Ordered the sk2008 tuesday night. Besides the video and other updates, I’m honestly not too impressed. I think I’ll just send it back and wait for my LX to update…

By the way, I’m tired of hearing how the Sidekick 2008 is an upgraded ID. Tha ID had no music player, no camera! The Sidekick 2008 has the same features as the Tony Hawk Sidekick or an LX with a 4.6/4.7 software update. The Sidekick 2008 is a Sidekick 2008. Just like the Sidekick LX is a Sidekick LX, not an upgraded Sidekick 3.

honestly I have both of the sidekicks the 2008 and the Lx, and really they are very different, i heard people are actually braggin ’bout wat sidekick is betta, wellz in ma opinion, and listen to me itz not a joke, but the new sidekick 2008 can’t be compared to thAT old messy LX,a mean its way more better than Lx, even though it has a smaller screen, its way more sophiticated and it goes way faster than the sidekick Lx, TRUST ME! Take it \from me who has both of tha sidekicks to compared so people who are plannin to get a sidekick and are not sure which to get, well take my advice and buy the Sidekick 2008, and you will not regret it, once ya see da kool keypad and the camera resolution its the best. So Guess wat Fans of the ols azz sidekick Lx, u cant take dat lame *** Lx and shaver up your mamas Azz AIGHTTTT>…

i think both the lx and 2008 are great phones. if i had an lx though i would not upgrade it. what if a new sidekick came out every month, would you upgrade every month and waste your money? if you have an lx keep it. if u have a 3 or earlier get an lx or 2008 or maybe wait till december to see what is like. right now i have a nokia 5300 and will probably upgrade to a 2008 because it is hard to type on a normal keypad all the time and i have had it for a while.

Are you really and admin because Im just wondering why your name goes to a porno site?

I dont understand why people that have an Lx are buying the 08. I understand if you have a sk3 or below but to but an 08 your just wasting your money. Oh the shiny shells makes me want to buy it. Yeah thats true but each shell cost money and is going to add up in the long run.

“UPgrade”?!? Why is EVERY new thing an UPgrade now? More like corporate consumerism idiotcy. Follow the fad and follow the loser rubes. At least if you think everything new is an UPgrade. And Nataly I don’t trust you or anyone else so uneducated they can’t spell even simple words. So shove your sidekick sideways up your mamas “azz” punk. Is being an ignorant stupid rude moron also “cool” now? I’m glad I’m not then. Bottom line, the 2008 is an ALTERNATE device not an UPgrade from the LX. It’s apples to oranges, if you know what that means (everyone except Nataly probably does, can’t help him/her/it). If you trade your LX for a 2008 it’s a SIDEgrade as in sideways not UP as in better, just different. If you really are so gullable to thing everything new is an UPgrade I got some new garbage from my trash you can buy and UPgrade to that. Geez, get real people. Anymore when I hear “UPgrade” I think; UPgrade = cheep scam for suckers to take UP the a**. Figure it out. I’ll stick with my “old” LX, 1 month “old” now for me. But lets trash everything “old” for new useless junk we don’t need, waste $ and resources more and help destroy the planet as fast as possiable~NOT. I’ll pass. And my LX will still be an LX in 2009 when the 2008 WILL be OLD by it’s very (stupid) name even. Suckers… and yea, this was all typed and posted from my LX, it’s the only way I go online!

I BELIEVE THE 2008 IS BETTER BECAUSE THE SIDEKICK 2008 CAN BLUETOOTH BOTH MUSIC N VIDEOS WHICH NO OTHER SIDEKICK CAN DO (LX) EITHER SO IF YOU DONT WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR RINGTONES N WANT TO DESIGN A PHONE TO FIT YOUR PERSONALITY THEN THE SIDE 2008 IS FOR YOU BUT IF U JUST WANT A PLAIN SIDEKICK THEN THE LX IS FOR YOU

I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN THE SK First came out ppl were saying that they were big n heavy now that it have become lighter now its cheap lol its no pleasing you ppl dont down talk the sk 2008 because of its weight i mean isnt that what you people ASK FOR !!!! personally i dont have a problem with the lx its a great phone but its plain you cant do nothing to it n im tired of buying ringtones n the colors r ugly lol brown n blue please it look like cardboard n the internet is just as slow as any other sk (3,2,id) so stop makin it seem as if the lx is SUPERIOR or something because its not BUT AGAIN I CHOOSE THE SK 2008 IT DOES NOT FEEL CHEAP N YES GRANTED THE SCREEN IS A LITTLE SMALLER LOL A LITTLE SMALLER WOW THATS SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE

how the hell is an lx old? i bet before the 08 came out everyone thought the lx was great and so awesome. but the day a new one comes out the lx is instantly old and worthless? if you think that then your are pompus jackasses.

Seriously, let’s not compare it to the Sidekick LX. This new device is an upgrade from the sidekick I.D. In which, it now supports music player, bluetooth, camera, etc. The LX and 08 are two different phones (with very similar likes), but what makes me laugh is the fact that people stand up for the LX like it’s a human being. I had the LX in the past, and it was a nice phone, but seriously, it’s just a piece of technology. I, personally, would much rather have the 08, only due to the fact that you can customize your own shells. Sidekick LX’s are basically all the same, give and take the few people who buy colored shells for it. I think that with the 08, you can really stand out with your phone. It doesn’t have to be anywhere near the same looking as another phone. Sure, the camera doesn’t have flash, but that would/should not make it or break it to buy a phone or not. It’s not like you’ll be doing professional shots with it ;]

The only question that i am left with is: can you set mp3’s as ringtones?

By the way, I’m tired of hearing how the Sidekick 2008 is an upgraded ID. Tha ID had no music player, no camera! The Sidekick 2008 has the same features as the Tony Hawk Sidekick or an LX with a 4.6/4.7 software update. The Sidekick 2008 is a Sidekick 2008. Just like the Sidekick LX is a Sidekick LX, not an upgraded Sidekick 3.

you could not be more wrong. just like a car comes out with a new model of the year, so do phones. uh, does the word razor 2 mean anything to you? and plus all those janky type of motorolas as well.

the point is sidekicks have successors. the 08 is a confirmed sk id 2. the lx which is technically the sk 4, will have a successor sk 5 to which i don’t know the name of yet.

so quit yer bitchin about hearing about upgrades, which they are not. they are successors of the sidekick family. think of how car manufactures are always coming out with the latest same name car, slightly different style and additions to keep up with the new times. ok!

To young_costa: the LX most DEFINATELY is an update to the 3. Tmobile/Danger may have changed the branding conventions (that means how they name it) of the Sidekick line, but for all intents and purposes it is meant to be the successor to the SK3.

So because TMobile has changed how the Sidekick line is nammed its really hard to tell if the 2008 is a successor to the LX or the ID. Personally, I hate the new namming method because it make NO sense. What exactly does “LX” stand for?? Why couldn’t they of just called it the 4 since that’s basically what it is? And why name a product after a year that is more than half over? Even though Gekko would of made more sense, it is NOT the name that the company went with, so why is everyone still calling it that? If you remember, the LX was called the Shuriken at one point. In fact, you’ll still find that name on the box. But nobody calls the LX the Shuriken. Yet everyone is insisting on calling the 2008 the Gekko…what’s up with that?

Anyway, back on topic…I called customer service for a question unrelated to the SK but I ended up asking if the 2008 was an update to the LX or the ID. The CC agent said it was an update to the LX. There is evidence that suggests this isn’t true like the fact that the ID and not the LX was discontinued, the customizable plates on the 2008 reflect the interchangeable bumpers on the ID and the low price point targets the same audience that targeted the ID users. But my guess is that if you call CC they will tell you the same thing that they told me: that the 2008 is “better than the LX.”

Lets try and take an objective view. I personally find all this talk about the “better” screen or “worse” keyboard to be nonsense. Saying that “the screen is better because making it smaller makes images crisper” is just a cheap marketing tool used by TMo. There’s not a significant visual difference of the screen. As for the keyboard: who cares? The keyboard has changed on pretty much every single device and has always required getting used to but at the end of the day its still the best keyboard on the market. And since the OS features on the LX (with the new OTA) and 2008 are the SAME then the only difference is in the body. An upgrade should include newer, better features. Not to mention if the 2008 was the sucessor to the LX there would of been more hype, retail stores would of had lines outside their doors with customers waiting to upgrade and there would of been more launch parties. All logic suggests that the 2008 is not an upgrade from the LX. But if you feel that the new cosmetic look of the 2008 is better than the LX then more power to you. Its really subjective. But I wouldn’t go around calling it an “upgrade”.

If you’re reading all of this and you can’t fiure out if I’m saying if the LX is better than the 2008 or not its because I’m not really giving an opinion. Its really to each his own. I’m thinking about getting it because its cheap and I could use a change in look. And since it does the same thing as the LX, why not? That actually means a lot comming from me since I’ve been an SK user since the SK1 and I DESPISED the ID (and I consider the 2008 to be the successor to the ID). I just wish that Tmobile stuck with the numerical names for the main devices and reserved the funky names for the ID line.

Wow did everybody notice it got video recording on the sk08…woooohooo!!!!!!!! I had the lx over a yr already and it now to have sk08. It way better then lx and you can change covers. What more can u ask for. GO GET THE SK08. Broooklyn, ny

I had just purchased the Sidekick LX a little more then 2 weeks ago. The day my two week return policy expired the Sidekick 2008 came out. I was bummed but I was checking online and found that there was no reason to be upset if you have an LX, in my opinion.

Sure the Sidekick 2008 is smaller and lighter if you think the LX is too heavy but I feel the Sidekick 2008 looks cheaply made. I know the shells are a way to make the phone your own but the plastic just seems low quality when spending $150 on a phone. The LX was more expensive but the LX has a high quality look to it.

Now with the LX O-T-A Upgrade the phones will be practically similar. With the upgrade giving LX owners video playback and such the phones will have the same feautures except for the 2008 having 2.0 mpx camera while the LX has 1.3 mpx.

The Sidekick 2008 has a slightly smaller screen plus the buttons are smaller and the keyboard is a smidge smaller. The LX also has the bonus of a flash camera while the Sidekick 2008 does not.

Overall, I say if you have the LX, keep it because it you want a higher quality sidekick, i’m sure an upgrade to the sidekick is coming out late this year. If you are a first time buyer I say for sure pick the LX. It may be a tinyer bit heavier but I feel it is the better choice.

to all of u at first this was informative about 20 comments deep i was ready to kill myself clam down give a review stop compaining about anything just try to be unbiased reviewer if u want a video review go to http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.html?query=sidekick u can see an objective review of both….ps the review for the 08/gekko is closer to the bottom of the page (seond from last review) labeled simply tmobile sidekick. pps whoever called cindy a b!tc# that was kinda funny but both of those kids were idiots especially the one who corrected the first kids spelling but still didn’t understand how to use the word

Well I Have Both People The LX And The 2008 The LX I Have A Plan 4. The Sidekick 2008 I Have It Prepaid. I Think The LX Iz Way Better Because It Comez In 2 Very Flashy Color Midnight Blue And Brown! And The Sidekick 2008 Iz Yellow And Black I Feel Like I Have A Bumble Bee Phone Tmobile Could’ve Pick A Better Color Than That! And Another Thing Iz The Buttonz R Useable On The LX. And The 2008 The Buttonz R All Small. And The LX Screen Iz Way Bigger Compared 2 The 2008! So U Know Wut People Im Just Goin 2 Say Iz The LX Winz It 4 Me! If U Trade Your LX In 4 The 2008 Sidekick U Made A Big Mistake! The LX Iz Shitting On Any Phone Out There Right Now The LX Iz Even Better Than The Iphone! But Hey Everyone Has There Own Say! Im On The LX Side On This Battle People Sorry!

OMG people. the new sidekick isn’t called the sidekick 2008. its called the sidekick gekko! I’m on my lx and the sidekick GEKKO doesn’t really have a comfortable look and feel to it. it looks like a older sidekick instead of a new one.if u have a LX or another sidekick and thinking of upgrading go to the lx. the lx is getting a update and it will have video and available messages on aim. also u can have 20 ringtones on it.

How about the fact that the 08 is the pedocessor of the ID , you complain about it as if it is the pedocessor of the LX. Compare it to the ID, how much better is it. =D

THANK YOU DANIEL! I don’t think people realize that it is the predecessor to the ID! That is why they discontinued the ID to sell this. If they were going to try and top the LX they would have stopped selling the LX altogether. =p

I’m only a fourteen-year old teenager and I’ve been begging my butt off and doing chores non-stop for my parents to get me a Sidekick ever since the day of the release of the Sidekick 3. Finally, almost close to a year after the Sidekick LX comes out, I convince my parents to purchase one for me. [I’m so exciited!] Although, by reading this, I really do think it sucks that a “folow-up” to the LX is coming out in December, and I’m just about to get my LX in a week or so. I’ll be stuck in a year or two-year contract so it’s not like my parents will just by me ANOTHER one. The main reason I’m not waiting for the Sidekick LX’s “follow-up” is because I currently have a Motorola Razr V3. That phone is garbage and is ready to be buried, so anything will be better, but I’ve been pleased with the Sidekick LX’s reviews.

Well, getting back to my subject…I was amazed to see that yet ANOTHER Sidekick, the Sidekick 2008/Gekko, whichever is the proper name, was coming out and how so many people were defending it here. I almost got a little dissapointed that I was getting the LX.

As a non-owner of any Sidekick, personally, the LX looks more elegant. The Sidekick 2008/Gekko [Again, whichever is the name] looks less appealing physically, and sort of plastic. The new OTA update is supposed to give pretty much the same features to the LX as the 2008/Gekko is supposed to have. Having a flash on a camera seems neccesary, and the Lx’s camera is better than my Razr so I really couldn’t complain. Even though the 2008/Gekko has a better camera, it has no flash. Still, either way, it’s better than my current phone.

Without having either phone, I don’t believe I have the right to discuss any other features…

Anyways, I was going back and forth between the LX and 2008/Gekko. Then, I realized. They’ll both be old in a few months, and I should really get over the teenagery fad of “who has the newest phone.” Even with the Sidekick 5 coming out in December, it’s going to be old a few months after. So, I decided to stick with LX. I need a phone, and that’s it. Who cares about a few minor differences in the phone’s appearance, or the small time difference between the release dates? I’m trying not to because in the end, I’ll be stuck in a contract either way and whichever new Sidekick comes out, I won’t be able to get it because my parents are strong believers in not breaking contracts just to get the newest device. [I do though believe that T-Mobile should slow down it’s release of Sidekicks in order to get feedback for intensel-improved models, instead of shipping out one after another, with little difference.]

All in all, I’m sticking with getting the LX. Sure, the new Sidekick 5 might entice me, but at least I’ll have a phone that I enjoy.
=)

honestly I have both of the sidekicks the 2008 and the Lx, and really they are very different, i heard people are actually braggin ’bout wat sidekick is betta, wellz in ma opinion, and listen to me itz not a joke, but the new sidekick 2008 can’t be compared to thAT old messy LX,a mean its way more better than Lx, even though it has a smaller screen, its way more sophiticated and it goes way faster than the sidekick Lx, TRUST ME! Take it \from me who has both of tha sidekicks to compared so people who are plannin to get a sidekick and are not sure which to get, well take my advice and buy the Sidekick 2008, and you will not regret it, once ya see da kool keypad and the camera resolution its the best. So Guess wat Fans of the ols azz sidekick Lx, u cant take dat lame *** Lx and shaver up your mamas Azz AIGHTTTT>…

okay so if a person of this mental caliber said this, i’m definitely getting an LX/waiting for the SK5/3G/WHATEVER. The ’08 is the ’08 and the LX is the LX. They’re both different and of course some people will prefer the other. But, and this is just a wild guess, the ID came out at around this time last year, and that’s what i got. It wasn’t all high-tech and i regret not getting an LX. But this time around, the ’08 is the new ID so what will that say for the new sidekick taking the place of LX and Slide? Wait ’till the SK5 comes out and we’ll see which is better then.

I’m only a fourteen-year old teenager and I’ve been begging my butt off and doing chores non-stop for my parents to get me a Sidekick ever since the day of the release of the Sidekick 3. Finally, almost close to a year after the Sidekick LX comes out, I convince my parents to purchase one for me. [I’m so exciited!] Although, by reading this, I really do think it sucks that a “folow-up” to the LX is coming out in December, and I’m just about to get my LX in a week or so. I’ll be stuck in a year or two-year contract so it’s not like my parents will just by me ANOTHER one. The main reason I’m not waiting for the Sidekick LX’s “follow-up” is because I currently have a Motorola Razr V3. That phone is garbage and is ready to be buried, so anything will be better, but I’ve been pleased with the Sidekick LX’s reviews.

Well, getting back to my subject…I was amazed to see that yet ANOTHER Sidekick, the Sidekick 2008/Gekko, whichever is the proper name, was coming out and how so many people were defending it here. I almost got a little dissapointed that I was getting the LX.

As a non-owner of any Sidekick, personally, the LX looks more elegant. The Sidekick 2008/Gekko [Again, whichever is the name] looks less appealing physically, and sort of plastic. The new OTA update is supposed to give pretty much the same features to the LX as the 2008/Gekko is supposed to have. Having a flash on a camera seems neccesary, and the Lx’s camera is better than my Razr so I really couldn’t complain. Even though the 2008/Gekko has a better camera, it has no flash. Still, either way, it’s better than my current phone.

Without having either phone, I don’t believe I have the right to discuss any other features…

Anyways, I was going back and forth between the LX and 2008/Gekko. Then, I realized. They’ll both be old in a few months, and I should really get over the teenagery fad of “who has the newest phone.” Even with the Sidekick 5 coming out in December, it’s going to be old a few months after. So, I decided to stick with LX. I need a phone, and that’s it. Who cares about a few minor differences in the phone’s appearance, or the small time difference between the release dates? I’m trying not to because in the end, I’ll be stuck in a contract either way and whichever new Sidekick comes out, I won’t be able to get it because my parents are strong believers in not breaking contracts just to get the newest device. [I do though believe that T-Mobile should slow down it’s release of Sidekicks in order to get feedback for intensel-improved models, instead of shipping out one after another, with little difference.]

All in all, I’m sticking with getting the LX. Sure, the new Sidekick 5 might entice me, but at least I’ll have a phone that I enjoy.
=)

Funny thing is that not ONE site did a side-by-side comparison to the Slide.

The 2008 really is a replacement for the Slide, it seems. They just happened to have realized that some people would pay for ID-style customization, and incorporated it.

I picked up the 08 literally yesterday. The 08 is faster than the Slide at basic tasks (not browsing so much, but the extra RAM helps load times), and having gotten used to the layout on the Slide, particularly the shoulder buttons and the keyboard, I’m finding it slightly harder to move back to the Sharp design.

That said, battery life is MUCH better (which honestly was always a problem with Moto phones regardless of configuration), and the screen change, lighter weight (it’s VERY noticeable side-by-side with the Slide) and the new software features are the real key to this update. Camera is cool but eh, I used it sparingly and I regularly carry an arsenal of video/photo/audio recorders with me anyway. I was one of the ones that picked up the ID for $50 to get a quick text/internet device with phone disabled (long story), so it’s basically a less-corporate Blackberry to me, and the customization is nice but isn’t that big a deal to me.

Note: unless your contract is up or you can get a new line, or you have some kind of special thing, it WILL set you back about $300. I had just renewed my contract in October to get the Slide, and I was quoted $299 to buy outright or $267 with a 2yr extension (with my SuperFriends selling it to me, even).

If you have a Slide, and unless you really don’t like it or you really want to be able to pimp it out, you can probably chill on the Slide until the 5/3G/whatever comes out. I also agree with most of the other comparisons/reviews to the other models.

I have a sidekick lx rit3 waz da f***ing pOint of gettin a sk08 iF iTs sMaLLeR peOplE aRE SuCh StUpId **** Who wAnT SomEnEW jUsT bEcause it com3z out But in mah oppinion u should get watever u want n buy a computer or something lik3 dat or get a life n stop writin about how u want ur f**ckin phon3 to b itz just a phone dude

I can’t wait to get the sk08! It would be my first sk and I’m so excited! I love being creative and i already customized some shells and cant wait to buy them & sk08 (gotta wait 2 weeks to get paid…minor fail i guess LOL)

I must say if i did have an LX i probably would not “upgrade” to the sk08. Especially that i’ve read the sk5 will come out later this year…IS THAT EVEN TRUE?

I can’t wait to get the sk08! It would be my first sk and I’m so excited! I love being creative and i already customized some shells and cant wait to buy them & sk08 (gotta wait 2 weeks to get paid…minor fail i guess LOL)

I must say if i did have an LX i probably would not “upgrade” to the sk08. Especially that i’ve read the sk5 will come out later this year…IS THAT EVEN TRUE?

So far it is just a rumor. There is no official word of T-Mobile releasing a new sidekick in december.But it they do,hopefully it will have 3G,otherwise I will not be buying another sidekick until the one with 3G comes out because I just bought a Sidekick 08.

I can’t wait to get the sk08! It would be my first sk and I’m so excited! I love being creative and i already customized some shells and cant wait to buy them & sk08 (gotta wait 2 weeks to get paid…minor fail i guess LOL)

I must say if i did have an LX i probably would not “upgrade” to the sk08. Especially that i’ve read the sk5 will come out later this year…IS THAT EVEN TRUE?

So far it is just a rumor. There is no official word of T-Mobile releasing a new sidekick in december.But it they do,hopefully it will have 3G,otherwise I will not be buying another sidekick until the one with 3G comes out because I just bought a Sidekick 08.

Wow did everybody notice it got video recording on the sk08…woooohooo!!!!!!!! I had the lx over a yr already and it now to have sk08. It way better then lx and you can change covers. What more can u ask for. GO GET THE SK08. Broooklyn, ny

Hey dumbass wake up!!!! Lx users are getting an update with the same thing!!!!!

I have an LX…with my update. The same thing is found in the 08 as well as the SK Tony Hawk. The 08 is like a decoy for the new Sidekick coming in December…or so i’ve heard, that’s why the 08 is just what it’s called…”the 08″ and funny enough they brought this out and called it that when it’s so close to the end of the year. My opinion is that the 08 is an indirected cross hybrid replacement of the SK ID and the SK Slide since those 2 are no longer sold.

Danger and Sharp created the best marketing strategy for this whole SK craze. Notice they would bring out a new Sidekick with a set of features and then bring out another one with just about the same features except for the changing of the name and the look. So this is just a stupid scheme to keep buying and comparing, and adding crappy features little at a time instead of bringing out full straight-forward phones all in one shot.

I have been wanting a sidekick for the last couple of weeks, and I am getting one in a couple of days. I am still stuck on which sidekick to get. I have heard so many good things about the sidekick 08, and so many good things about the sidekick lx as well. And I have also heard some negatives towards both of them as well. So I am undecided on which one of them I will be getting. So if any of you have any ideas, or thoughts, please, let me know, thank you!

Im a new comer to sidekicks and it was between the lx and the 2008 so when I got to the store I tried them both out and I walked out with a 2008 it perfect, my sister had the sk3 and we both agree it an improvement to it but if you already have a lx keep it they are practicly the same so if u have a sk3 or below get the 08 in fact I typed this on my sk08

I had the lx for a long time. Actually I have EVERY sk. I liked the sk lx but the trackball broke on me so Im now upgrading to the sk 2008. All this trash talk about the lx being better, I think both phone are good! They both have their good and bad.

OH MY GOD this morning tmobile sends some wierd message through my phone at like 6am this morning and TADAH: THEY HAVE UPDATED ALL SIDEKICK LX’S TO NOW RECORD VIDEO

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To young_costa: the LX most DEFINATELY is an update to the 3. Tmobile/Danger may have changed the branding conventions (that means how they name it) of the Sidekick line, but for all intents and purposes it is meant to be the successor to the SK3.

So because TMobile has changed how the Sidekick line is nammed its really hard to tell if the 2008 is a successor to the LX or the ID. Personally, I hate the new namming method because it make NO sense. What exactly does “LX” stand for?? Why couldn’t they of just called it the 4 since that’s basically what it is? And why name a product after a year that is more than half over? Even though Gekko would of made more sense, it is NOT the name that the company went with, so why is everyone still calling it that? If you remember, the LX was called the Shuriken at one point. In fact, you’ll still find that name on the box. But nobody calls the LX the Shuriken. Yet everyone is insisting on calling the 2008 the Gekko…what’s up with that?

Anyway, back on topic…I called customer service for a question unrelated to the SK but I ended up asking if the 2008 was an update to the LX or the ID. The CC agent said it was an update to the LX. There is evidence that suggests this isn’t true like the fact that the ID and not the LX was discontinued, the customizable plates on the 2008 reflect the interchangeable bumpers on the ID and the low price point targets the same audience that targeted the ID users. But my guess is that if you call CC they will tell you the same thing that they told me: that the 2008 is “better than the LX.”

Lets try and take an objective view. I personally find all this talk about the “better” screen or “worse” keyboard to be nonsense. Saying that “the screen is better because making it smaller makes images crisper” is just a cheap marketing tool used by TMo. There’s not a significant visual difference of the screen. As for the keyboard: who cares? The keyboard has changed on pretty much every single device and has always required getting used to but at the end of the day its still the best keyboard on the market. And since the OS features on the LX (with the new OTA) and 2008 are the SAME then the only difference is in the body. An upgrade should include newer, better features. Not to mention if the 2008 was the sucessor to the LX there would of been more hype, retail stores would of had lines outside their doors with customers waiting to upgrade and there would of been more launch parties. All logic suggests that the 2008 is not an upgrade from the LX. But if you feel that the new cosmetic look of the 2008 is better than the LX then more power to you. Its really subjective. But I wouldn’t go around calling it an “upgrade”.

If you’re reading all of this and you can’t fiure out if I’m saying if the LX is better than the 2008 or not its because I’m not really giving an opinion. Its really to each his own. I’m thinking about getting it because its cheap and I could use a change in look. And since it does the same thing as the LX, why not? That actually means a lot comming from me since I’ve been an SK user since the SK1 and I DESPISED the ID (and I consider the 2008 to be the successor to the ID). I just wish that Tmobile stuck with the numerical names for the main devices and reserved the funky names for the ID line.

Well I use to be a iphone user… Im always on top with phones from lg prada, lg viewty, bb8800, bb pearl, wing, ect, ect….. (always with tmobile / unlock phones) anyways,
I use to pay almost a 100$ every mothn from my phone bill with all the features internet, txt and minutes plan. It was too much… to be honest I use to hate sidekick to death…. but one day my phone run out of bat and my friend let me use his sk 3 and I realize all the features the sk in gerenal have, plus the plan is only 20$ (unlimited txt and internet). I decide it was time for a change. I bought a sk slide in my opinion too girly too small for my taste, I am 6 feet tall come on I can’t use small phones, so I sell the sk slide I was ready to buy my new sk and I saw tmobile have a new sk out, was trying to get one so bad but one of my friend told to try the sk lx cause the size and the style is cool so I bought the lx and 2 days later I have the update ota…. I love my lx, hey is big in my hands is small…. and I got the same features as the sk 08… so if you want to get a sk I recomend you to buy a sk for the way it looks no for features sk lx and sk 08 ARE THE SAME FEATURES…..

UGH..IM FUNNA NEED TA BUY A NEW PHONE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH..N I WANT A SIDEKICK..BUT GRRR….SUMONE TELL ME WHICH ONE!!! I REALLY LIKE THE LX BUT I WANT THE SIDEKICK 2008 ( GEKKO) WHATEVA,LOL AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE SCREEN..AS LONG AS I CAN SEE WHAT THE HELL I’M TEXTN CLEARLY THEN ITS ALL GRAVY.. AND THE FLASH..GET A FRICKEN CAMERA ALL READY PEOPLE!!!!

dumb stupid *** mutha fuckas i mean come on the **** aint that serious get what the **** you can afford the lx is cost more and has the same **** as the 08 which is way cheaper so to all who dont have a sidekick and want a nice 1 and is low on money get the 08 to those who has a lx good 4 you and to those who is low on money and still want a lx you are all dumb and just ignorant because you can save your money and get the same **** and even just a bit better so get a ****** clue get with the program we all like sidekicks so if you have a lx or a 08 your in the up to date crowd and if you dont your still in but your phone is out of date there i hope this helps

dumb stupid *** mutha fuckas i mean come on the **** aint that serious get what the **** you can afford the lx is cost more and has the same **** as the 08 which is way cheaper so to all who dont have a sidekick and want a nice 1 and is low on money get the 08 to those who has a lx good 4 you and to those who is low on money and still want a lx you are all dumb and just ignorant because you can save your money and get the same **** and even just a bit better so get a ****** clue get with the program we all like sidekicks so if you have a lx or a 08 your in the up to date crowd and if you dont your still in but your phone is out of date there i hope this helps

AHHHAHAHA YOUS A FOOL! DAYUMM YAH NEED TO HELLA REGULATE MAN..YOU DRAWLIN!!CRAZY,LOL THANKS FOR THE HELP AND FOR MAKIN UP MY MIND IN A HARSH WAY THERE GRUMPY BEAR..

Okay, come on. Seriously: most of u ppl want the lx bcuz it looks more “elegant” and the screen is bigger (like a centemeter?). Get a grip. The sidekick lx is way more expensive. I have the sk08, and it doesn’t look “plastic” unless ur thisclose to it. I’d rather have the interchangable covers, faster internet, smaller build, a better camera etc for $100 cheaper. They phones are phones and ridiculously overpriced no matter WHAT phone u get. Settle. Down.

son youll cant be serious comparing the 08 to the lx..??? thats no competition look ima keep it short if u want a flashy phone get the lx if you want a low class phone trying to be flashy get the 08 so to top this off the lx is way better then the 08 from the looks, graphics, big *** plasma screen, internet, to the flashing **** blue lights around the lx…!!!

Look ******* dummies stop blabbering like little kids.Both the LX and 08 are hot and good tech phones SAME ****!get wichever one you want.Don’t listen to other peoples decisions.Its what you want and like.by the time you decide the psp sidekick and sidekick 4 will be out.THERE THE SAME THING!so stop complaining piece ma niggas.

Hi, I had a sidekick ID without camera for a long time. It didn’t bother me at all because I have a hot pink camera, anyways. A few days ago my boyfriend bought me a new sidekick LX 4 x-mas! I was shocked and I fell in love with it because I had no idea about ubs, media player, and video! I just download youtube, NES (Mario) and more from my computer to my sidekick LX. Awesome! I can see better with a big screen 4 website and play the games. I don’t like my sidekick LX color is brown but I ordered CRYSTAL DIAMOND CASE COVER for T-MOBILE SIDEKICK LX on ebay. I really don’t care about sidekick’s with or without camera because they sucks. I don’t know about sidekick 2008. G1 seems much better then sidekick 2008 and LX. Maybe I am wrong. Who knows.

its **** sucks cuz we had to spend a hundred bucks on these fone.
all the fones are crappy, when yu dropped it and it got ****ed up.
sklx09 is ****ing ripoff.
all all these fone and sklx
why its so worth to spend hundred bucks on these stupid fones?
its expensive than spend the gas for my car.

its **** sucks cuz we had to spend a hundred bucks on these fone.
all the fones are crappy, when yu dropped it and it got ****ed up.
sklx09 is ****ing ripoff.
all all these fone and sklx
why its so worth to spend hundred bucks on these stupid fones?
its expensive than spend the gas for my car.

That was pretty intelligent. How old are you? The phones are more than $100. Don’t drop it and it won’t break. Learn to type.

Ok so I use to have a sidekick slide, then down graded to a sidekick id just to test out the swivel screen before I actually updated to the 08 or lx everyone has there own personal prefrence on phones and what they are most into such as weight feel etc me personally… I now have a blackberry curve but I do agree with the person above who said small is what we wanted take a look at the Id look at how big it is and how it hardly even fits in ur pocket.. I think the sidekick 2008 is a pretty sleek small device which is why I would choose it over the lx, don’t get me wrong the lx and 08 are both great phones the same almost actually… But I just would like a small sidekick. I know most of you will read this and be like wtf but its personal prefrence that’s why I don’t get why we have ppl calling each other ******* were all a little more matture than that right ? Oh also if ur main concern is the great keyboard you could check out the curve I typed all this with it great use of a keyboard so long story short don’t worry about which everyone thinks is better go with the one u think is the best. Plus I’m sure 2009 has a great sidekick coming outsoon any questions ? Email — drewdanbury@gmail.com

ima first time sk user…I got a sidekick 08 for about 3 months now and I love it. its has to be my favorite of all my previous phones. idk much about the difference between the 08 and the lx but I don’t really care. my sister had mostly all the sidekicks except for the slide and I love the fact that the 08 is smaller and lighter from the rest. finally it feels more like a phone and not a sega game gear. and no more covers!! now there’s those new back cases for the 08…if ya sratch ya phone up…buy a new case and wala…new fone, instead of those stupid leather and plastic covers that make the sk seem bulkier. honestly no complaints on the sk 08…so what if it’s a tad bit smaller than the lx (gotta admit the lx finish does look hot) my ONLY complaints on the 08 are…no flash on the camera, what’s the point of having bluetooth if u can’t use the ringtones passed to u as ringtones?? and I can’t watch videos on youtube but my brother can on his stupid moto krzr!! pls fix this for the next sidekick and u’ll have a loyal costumer

I had to make the decision. I used to have a sidekick id. but i hated it after like 2 days. so i switched to a regular flip phone. But i really like the lx and 2008. But i made the decision to get the lx. the lx looks more masculine to me. and plus i have larger thumbs the lx has bigger everything. also the screen. everytime i look at it i thinK: “i’m glad i chose the lx”. i know its not that much of a difference but its just bigger and i love it. Sure it might be slighlty bigger but if your getting a sidekick, you should just know your going to be carrying around a big device. so theres what i have to say. but really its your own decision. do what you want.

i think the llx is better because it has mor ethings and you can buy different shells easier so if u want a phone get a sidekick lx
the 08 is good but it just has slower internet and is the same as the lx but lighter
its the same thing as the sidekick 3 and the id they r both the same except one is lighter

I got the sidekick lx wen it came out and i LOVE with my phone. its not the smallest thing but the big bright screen is amazing. my 2 bestfriends have the sidekick 08 and it feels cheap and light . when you pick it up it just doesnt feel like a phone that shuld cost that amount of money . theres a reason why the lx continues to be more expensive then 08 .. bcos it is a better phone . the shell is the only big difference .. and to tell you the truth id rather have a good flash camera then a shell that i culd possibly not even get every week . anyone whos wondering which to get . just get the lx it relle is a good phone.

honestly I have both of the sidekicks the 2008 and the Lx, and really they are very different, i heard people are actually braggin ’bout wat sidekick is betta, wellz in ma opinion, and listen to me itz not a joke, but the new sidekick 2008 can’t be compared to thAT old messy LX,a mean its way more better than Lx, even though it has a smaller screen, its way more sophiticated and it goes way faster than the sidekick Lx, TRUST ME! Take it \from me who has both of tha sidekicks to compared so people who are plannin to get a sidekick and are not sure which to get, well take my advice and buy the Sidekick 2008, and you will not regret it, once ya see da kool keypad and the camera resolution its the best. So Guess wat Fans of the ols azz sidekick Lx, u cant take dat lame *** Lx and shaver up your mamas Azz AIGHTTTT>…

Lol.. That’s going wayyy too far. You need to calm down. I think they’re both great phones, each other things that are better than the other’s. I still don’t know which one to choose, although (NOW) the Sidekick LX 2009 is coming out. I can’t afford the 2009, so I’m going to be getting a 2008 or an LX 2007. I’m a guy, so I find it kind of hard to type on such a small keypad, but I also want my sidekick to be smooth and not lag at all.. I don’t know which one to get. I want the internals of the 2008, but the design and features of the LX 2007. I don’t care much for the camera, and I doubt I’ll be allowed to use the internet.. All I want a phone that I can text rapidly with. One of the major issues is the PRICE. The Sidekick2008 is roughly $300, while the SidekickLX2007 is $450.. It seems to me that the LX is better suited for me with it’s larger keyboard and screen, but It costs $150 more than the 2008, which actually runs faster with it’s new software. HELP MEEEE T____T

I am just getting the lx. i know the difference between the lx and lx 2009, but idk which it is because they say it is the 2009, but it has only a 1.3 mp camera…………..
I would just like to know if you think mine will come with the update if it is just the lx.. thanks.

ok i would just like to say that sidekicks r niggga phones either that or kid phones and i LOVE em!
ok but just 2 answer the question of the post above……..u do NOT have a sidekick 09…..if u did then it would have 3G speed, a 3.2 mp camera with video, a MUCH BIGGER screen, and a **** load more

IF YOU BUY A SIDEKICK TMOBILE WILL GIVE YOU A MEMORY CARD AND A FREE SIMCARD BUT FORGET THE DUM *** PHONES BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUY A SIDEKICK YOU HAVE TO BUY THEM ONLINE OR BUY THEM FROM SOMEBODY…………………….IMMMMMMM OUT

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