Is this a good thing?

i missed a few days of practice last week. but i told my boxing coach like the week before i was going to start lifting again and get my boxing lisence.
i dont do the little warmup thing they do upstairs (its kinda stupid in my opinion. its like mindless shadowboxing in a group) so i weightlift downstairs instead until they come down to the bags.
and he came downstairs yesterday, gave me his number and said to text him if i cant make it Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Does that mean hes going to pay more attention to my boxing, or just wanted to make sure i came more
What do you think Saddo?+

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I have no idea what he meant. But I wonder, if you want to be a boxer, why would you want to lift weights instead of shadowboxing? Shadowboxing, and it is only as mindless as you let it be (which in and of itself is mindless), actually helps make you a better boxer. (If you do it correctly, which is the opposite of doing it mindlessly) Weightlifting does not.

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Weightlifting is all wrong for boxing. The mass isn't good. The more muscle you have, the slower you'll be, and the less effective you'll be. It isn't going to improve your punching power, either.

Shadow boxing is at least forming punches. It isn't mind numbing to me, even after doing it for five years. You just have to mentally get yourself into it. Picture each of those punches landing on an opponent. Imagination, eh?

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I am not sure if weight lifting is all wrong. If you think for weightlifting as just pumping on the bench or curls yes it makes no sence, but lets say you want to throw a combination. For me this is a form of plymetric movement. So in order to do it you need alot of control and strenght. You need as much the big musles of the back (which are pulling not pushing!) and legs as much as the small muscles that you don't even suspect are there. Now obviously the small muscle can be developed specifically for boxing just through boxing, but what about the hamstrings, the gluts, the combined unit of back and legs? I think it is much easyer to teach someone to deadlift and get the control over his body and to try to implement this feeling when he punches. And here come the weights for me in boxing. You get control on your body. Done properly i don't think that weights are bad for boxers. Yes of course nothing is better for boxing than boxing it self, but we can get alot of benefits of all types of physikal activity.

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i read that article and i dont really understand the relaxing your body while you throw the punch and make your body Snap it, ill ask my coach what he thinks about weightlifting. what i should do as a boxer to weightlift. etc.

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Originally Posted by Sandman1995

i read that article and i dont really understand the relaxing your body while you throw the punch and make your body Snap it, ill ask my coach what he thinks about weightlifting. what i should do as a boxer to weightlift. etc.

He should say, avoid reps and do only power lifting or power shifting.

I recon anything in little bits is ok: but you dont want to start shaping your muscles any way that will take your natural speed away, speed = power too, not just momentum plus weight. One is at the expense of fluidity. I would never give that type of speed up in a fight. Technique will give you all the power you need, Fluid speed will allow you to land the shot unseen, thats worth more than anything.

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Re: Is this a good thing?

Originally Posted by Andre

Originally Posted by Sandman1995

i read that article and i dont really understand the relaxing your body while you throw the punch and make your body Snap it, ill ask my coach what he thinks about weightlifting. what i should do as a boxer to weightlift. etc.

He should say, avoid reps and do only power lifting or power shifting.

I recon anything in little bits is ok: but you dont want to start shaping your muscles any way that will take your natural speed away, speed = power too, not just momentum plus weight. One is at the expense of fluidity. I would never give that type of speed up in a fight. Technique will give you all the power you need, Fluid speed will allow you to land the shot unseen, thats worth more than anything.

What Andre says here is golden. If you want to be fast and strong, within a particular style of fighting, get really good at that type of fighting.

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First you need to decide if you want to be a boxer or a weight lifter. I have a close friend who can bench press 600 lbs as easy as you wuld pick up a pencil...yet, he had to give up trying to be a boxer because the smarter, lighter fighters could slip, dodge, and dance all around him. He had that mind set of getting in that big power punch for the knockout. It never happened. He would slowly get chopped down like a a tree, and end up out of gas gettting a beating. He spent more time in the weight room then the did training in the ring. Would you expect to work out in a weight room and then be put in a basketball game?---same difference

Boxing is not called a science for nothing. If you have not grasped the lessons in why you do warm ups, shadow box, footwork and tactics....you are wasting your time and your coaches time. Did I mention the word dedication? I think you need to go to more boxing matches and see smaller, slimmer guys who are proven boxers, demonstrate their skills against opponents who are larger and stronger then they. I'm not saying weight lifting is a bad thing...nor am I saying being a large fighter with muscles is a bad thing...but the difference is...they learned to box, they listened to their trainers, and they put in the dedication and time to learn the science.