"If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand." - Heater's ex-boss

Thanks, though I'm looking for an actual programmer solution, usable from AS7...little nervous about using a serial port adapter as a programmer...might do in a pinch. Telling the production people to do that might raise some eyebrows.

...usable from AS7...little nervous about using a serial port adapter as a programmer....production people...

You're using AS7 on the production line!?

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The application note introduces Atmel-ICE setup, driver installation, user guide of the Atmel Studio command line utility (atprogram.exe), and provide a PC programming tool project written in C#. The Visual C# example project can be downloaded along with this application note and run with the ATmega328PB Xplained Mini kit.

There's a list of third party programmers; maybe one has UPDI for high-rate production.

I have an ASIX Forte programmer here which I use for serial EEPROMs. It will also do megas and xmegas and coming soon is uPDI. I'm about to move over to using it for AVRs. Why? Because the USB drivers are benign and don't mess with all my other USB stuff unlike Atmel.

"This forum helps those that help themselves."

"How have you proved that your chip is running at xxMHz?" - Me

"If you think you need floating point to solve the problem then you don't understand the problem. If you really do need floating point then you have a problem you do not understand." - Heater's ex-boss

There's a list of third party programmers; maybe one has UPDI for high-rate production.

That is my question...is there a list of low-cost programmers that do UPDI & work in studio 7, kind of like the MKII clones. Any production is low volume, maybe a few dozen here & there every few weeks.

Also, is there a complete list of which chips require this UPDI...in case we want to avoid (or use) those chips. The Atmel selector page doesn't indicate what type of programming is needed. You can sort of see it from studio, working backwards (pick a chip then see what tools are good for it)...but studio (at least my recent version) doesn't seem to have all the latest chips to pick from.

Thanks the ICE-PCBA might fit the bill...why such an idiotic generic name??...how about a model number, like programmer/debugger PROGPRO 9300A??

However the manual says nothing about UPDI...it says

Atmel Studio supports programming of Atmel AVR and Atmel SAM ARM devices using the Atmel-ICE. The programming dialog can be configured to use JTAG, aWire, SPI, PDI, TPI or SWD modes, according to the target device selected.

Hmmmm you are correct....Interesting that they left UPDI off the list they enumerated...I suppose it was an oversight & of course the first list I came to.

So this unit sounds like exactly what I was hoping for!

Are there any drawback or issues withg this, say compared with the AVRISP MKII?

I looked on Digikey to purchase & there are 3 things call Atmel-Ice....one is $55, the others $99 & $140....what are the differences in capabilities of the $55 vs $140 unit. It alsmost seems like nothing, since they refer to the same manual The $140 has a plastic case...maybe that's all??

Have a word with Alank2 about his board (see the post in marketplace) as I asked him about UPDI support.

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