Yep, and Argentina just lost to Jamaica earlier today (lost both their 2nd round games so far), so Puerto Rico looks like the only tough team and we probably won't have to play them until the gold medal game assuming we end up ranked 1 and 2.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:43 PM

Joey

Wow this is a close game ... Canada was down by 9 at the half, and had trimmed it to 1, before VEN scored again. At least its a game again!

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:47 PM

tkfu

This is one ugly-ass game. Seems like Canada goes as Cory Joseph does, this tournament. The only other game we lost was his 2-10 stinker against Puerto Rico.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:48 PM

tkfu

Also, this announcer is really fucking annoying. You're in Venezuela, and you can't learn to pronounce the name of the country?

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:52 PM

octothorp

Going to be a tough fourth quarter, starting down nine to Venezuela. Gotta find more offense somewhere. Thompson an absolute beast on the boards though. Need to got Rautins or Heslip hot, that might be the only chance to get back in.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:54 PM

Superjudge

Canada is getting destroyed by a team they should beat.....just no heart. Gotta dig deep and an up

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:55 PM

Superjudge

ugh. not impressed.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 06:58 PM

tkfu

Quote:

Craig wrote:

Canada is getting destroyed by a team they should beat.....just no heart. Gotta dig deep and an up

You watching the same game I am? I see plenty of heart, but unfriendly rims and too many turnovers.

edit: And fucking awful refs. Really makes you appreciate NBA refs.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:04 PM

Superjudge

I dunno...for me there are two types of effort. Just trying hard isn't enough, at all. Trying hard is just physical, playing hard is mental as well. You gotta man up, step up, and execute. Historically, canadian teams in many sports seem to lack that sort of winning focus. Its baffling to me.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:08 PM

Superjudge

Is Heslip that Kid that drained a trillion 3's in the NCAA's?

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:09 PM

Superjudge

13-0 run is warming me up

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:10 PM

octothorp

Yup, fourth year Baylor player. I've said it before, I'm not sure he makes the NBA but he could be a great international player.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:23 PM

Superjudge

Canada's last 3 mins, very triano-esque

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:26 PM

octothorp

Tough loss, but a win over Argentina or Dominican is probably still enough to qualify. They lost their margin for error, though.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Primer

Very tough loss to the host country, you could tell the crowd was getting into Canada's head. Still glad to see we battled back and won the 2nd half. The first half felt like we couldn't buy a bucket and Venezuela couldn't miss a 3 pointer. Really didn't help that Nicholson got 5 fouls in only 9:39. We need his scoring, especially when Rautins and Heslip aren't on fire. Joseph had an off game too, going 6-16 FG and 0-5 from downtown. At least Thompson was a monster on the boards with 20 rebounds. Our next game against DR should be easier, and the fact Argentina lost to Jamaica means they're very beatable as well.

All in all pretty happy so far. You could tell if this team included Bennett and Olynyk it would easily be the top team, not even mentioning Wiggins who could conceivably play for Canada next summer too. Just gotta qualify and then bring the A-Team to the World Championships. So much easier to get excited about Canada Basketball now.

Fri Sep 6th, 2013, 08:02 PM

Joey

Quote:

Craig wrote:

Canada's last 3 mins, very triano-esque

I felt like I was in 1998 again, as I was forced to watch the Play-by-Play on the Fiba website ...

D.1 Procedure
Teams shall be classified according to their win-loss records, namely two (2) points
for each game won, one (1) point for each game lost (including lost by default) and
zero (0) points for a game lost by forfeit.
D.1.1 If there are two (2) teams in the classification with equal points, the result(s) of the
game(s) between the two (2) teams involved will be used to determine the placing.
D.1.2 If the points and the goal average in the games between the two (2) teams are still
the same, the classification will be determined by the goal average of all the games
played in the group by each team.
D.1.3 If there are more than two (2) teams in the classification with equal points, a second
classification will be established, taking into account only the results of the games
between the involved teams.
D.1.4 If at any stage of this procedure the number of teams with equal points is reduced
to only two (2) teams, the procedure in D.1.1 and D.1.2 above will be applied.
D.1.5 If in the second classification there are still teams with equal points, the goal
average will be used to determine the placing, taking into account only the results
of the games between the involved teams.
D.1.6 If there are still more than two (2) teams with the same goal average, the placing
will be determined using the goal average from the results of all their games played
in the group.
D.1.7 If at any stage of this procedure the number of teams with equal points is reduced
to a tie still involving more than two (2) teams, the procedure, beginning with D.1.3
above, is repeated.
D.1.8 Goal average will always be calculated by division.

So, for example, Canada, Venezuela, and Mexico are all at 3-2. (D.1)
In games between the three teams, they are all 1-1. (D.1.3)
In goal average (pts for/pts against) in games between the three teams (D.1.5) :
1. Canada is 148/131 = 1.13
2. Venezuela is 120/124 = 0.97
3. Mexico is 122/145 = 0.84

At least that's my best understanding, but I haven't heard any of the commentators try to explain it, likely because it's just so damn confusing.

So, for example, Canada, Venezuela, and Mexico are all at 3-2. (D.1)
In games between the three teams, they are all 1-1. (D.1.3)
In goal average (pts for/pts against) in games between the three teams (D.1.5) :
1. Canada is 148/131 = 1.13
2. Venezuela is 120/124 = 0.97
3. Mexico is 122/145 = 0.84

At least that's my best understanding, but I haven't heard any of the commentators try to explain it, likely because it's just so damn confusing.

Oh, interesting. I was going by what I had heard the announcer say, which was probably a mistake given that he also said Tristan Thompson just finished his rookie year in the NBA, and pronounces Venezuela as "venn-zoo-ale-ah".

Sat Sep 7th, 2013, 05:19 PM

octothorp

Man, Canada is getting no help from the rest of its group. Jamaica and Uruguay a combined 1-5 in the second round so far, and Puerto Rico even losing to Dominican. I'm getting really nervous about this game against DR.

Sat Sep 7th, 2013, 06:01 PM

Joey

Canada vs. Dominican is being broadcast on Sportsnet 360 for anyone interested.