See Marty, most people think that American Jewish politics are suicidal: they support people and policies clearly aimed at destroying America and Israel, outposts of Judeo-Christian ideals.

I believe Modern American Jews have a generations long Stockholm syndrome that compels them to embrace secular power as a misguided defensive tact. They feel that upsetting the status quo holds the greatest risk so they vote as their elders have before them.

This Freudian nightmare of weakness can easily lead to deceit and heartbreak. That is why I admire the JDL and Zionism for standing up to true threats that harm the Children of Israel.

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posted on 11/26/2009 5:30:39 PM PST
by higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)

Well, first of all I'm not Jewish. Second, it was a rather obscure reference to the whiney-ass "I'm So Sorry" internet thing the "Bush-haters" did a few years back - I was making fun of that groups efforts by attempting a similar action regarding the Obie-bots sneaking around in Israel. Thirdly, you are connecting some very strange dots in your thought process, or lack of a thought process, by trying to equate my post with any kind of electoral support for Oba-Mao - That's just plain strange.

I hope this helps you understand the post; and I see you're getting a fair amount of assistance from other FReepers with your other attempts at posting a coherent comment.

They should beat up a few of these “diplomats”. that will surely create an international incident which will give this “snooping” the wider media attention it deserves to embarrass the Obama Muslim thugs.

IMO, suspenders.The tie-downs for a shoulder rig would be connected to the belt further back along his waist. Usually straight down from the arm-pit on the carry side.What I see exposed looks to be too far towards the front of the body for a shoulder rig tie-down.Just my thoughts. But it wouldn't surprise me if Oba-Mao was carrying something with more wallop than a Little Red Book..

Tell your fellow American Jews they F’d up in 2008 when majority of them voted for Obama. If they do that again in 2012, Isreal is on her own. If American Jews don’t give a damn about Isreal, why should Americans die for their homeland?

It seems like fear and history are the motivating factors, so what you say makes sense.

That is why I admire the JDL and Zionism for standing up to true threats that harm the Children of Israel

I agree. They obviously overcame cultural reticence and fear and now see the enemy in a clear light: no illusions about mulitcultural solidarity. You can't sleep with wolves.

I have no grudge against a guy like Rahm Emmanuel serving in the IDF - if you are in Israel, it's the right thing to do.

What I don't understand is his gig coming back to the U.S. - did he get scared? Was it too real, having to be on pins everyday, ready to rock and roll when Hamas fires a mortar?

Strange guy.

Now the people who live in the Golan, Kiryat Shimona, places like that....they gotta be strong. It's a good thing, instead of operating from weakness, you know they are physically and spiritually strong now.

Nope, I have no info on that. Scuttlebutt has it that its SOP for whoever the President is to be given a basic and/or advanced, if desired, handgun course. This makes sense as it my figure into his activities at some point.Some Presidents have been avid shooters. I think there is also an indoor range in the WH basement. At least there used to be one. Don't know if its still there.

Don't believe things you read in the tabloids. (Like that John Edwards was having an affair and then a love child with some ho. All the reliable main stream news sources could tell you whant nonsense that was.)

Don't believe things you read in the tabloids. (Like that John Edwards was having an affair and then a love child with some ho. All the reliable main stream news sources could tell you whant nonsense that was.)

So if these reports are true, just like the Globes reports of John Edwards affair & love child  when do you think that the truth will ever be mentioned in the MSM? Ever???

They never really covered the Edwards story. I mean the allegations were out there, and the mis-information was put forward and that was the end of it. It was only his stupidity in visiting her, and the crack reporting of the Enquirer that led to widespread disbelief in his story.

An interesting aside I have heard that he was 'outed' by campaign staffers who realized that if he won the nomination that the Dems would lose when his love child was revealed. Essentially they put party loyalty over personal loyalty.

If Obama is sick we'll hear about it when he has to go in for a long stay at the hospital, and it will be claimed it was all just discovered Tuesday.

As for past (or present) sexual indescretions - I doubt they will ever report those. Only Republican's have their sex lives investigated by the MSM. (Remember the bogus McCain affair rumors the NY Times put on their FRONT PAGE!).

I will say that the Globe printed an unending list of similar stories about Bush, and I believe they were mostly slander. So all joking aside I can't take anything they say too seriously.

Now the Enquirerer, that's who broke the Edwards love-child story. They seem to have a slightly better track record.

I believe Modern American Jews have a generations long Stockholm syndrome that compels them to embrace secular power as a misguided defensive tact.

You have a HUGE point here. That's how it started. But now it's groupthink keeping them in line. Why did so many of them go with Madoff? There is a need for Jews to "stay on the reservation" even against common logic and one's own instinct for true self-preservation and liberty. Doing what the group tells you to is one of the most powerful urges we have. Jews are very verbal and it is DIFFICULT to go against one's family and friends. Ask me.

Jews are very verbal and it is DIFFICULT to go against one's family and friends. Ask me.

I am curious what influence the Rabbi has in the community. Does he most often perpetuate the group-think? Does his sermon ever speak to secular considerations or just pass on lessons from Talmud? Are Conservative Jews ostracized in the community? Is there any hope that the most brilliant group of thinkers on earth might be encouraged to embrace Conservative politics?

Jewish names appear 127 times on the list of Nobel Prize Laureates, about 18 percent of the total. This is an astonishing percentage for a group of people who add up to 1/24th of 1 percent of the world's population.

Why does this effort seem so difficult?

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posted on 11/27/2009 4:56:57 PM PST
by higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)

Wow. That post just won’t die, will it? OK. I’ll attempt to explain my logic. I ignored the others that refused to read what I wrote and could only see what they thought I wrote.

Obama is sending spies to Israel. Several people on FR start “apologizing” for that.

1) Virtually all FReepers didn’t vote for Obama.
2) Most American Jews did vote for Obama.

All I intended in my post was that WE have nothing to apologize for, but Israel should be asking their own brethren in the US why they voted for a guy that is openly hostile to Israel and didn’t even try to hide it during the campaign.

I never said ANYTHING about Israeli internal affairs. Nothing. Nada. Not a thing.

My comment was really directed at American Jews who chose Progressivism over Israel. Israel has my total support, but Progressives (even Jewish ones) are my natural enemy and I will always call them out for their hypocrisy.

I remember reading a Globe story about bin Laden. According to this story, bin Laden hates the US because an American women ridiculed him as sexually inadequate. About 3 weeks later the building with the Globe offices had an anthrax attack which killed one or more people, I don’t remember the details, but I remember thinking at the time that it was bin Laden retaliation against the Globe. Never heard that suggested in the news.

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