, actually helpedthenragetit passed? no surprise that there's a big dose of politics involved here. jim acosta tonight is keeping them honest. >> reporter: when president obama signed national health care reform into law, few in washington knew that buried in the legislation's more than 900 pages was a gift to the nation's powerful gun lobby. but here it is. a provision entitled "protection of second amendment rights." it states, "the government and health insurers cannot collect any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition." the provision was such a secret, "the washington post" reports that some people in the white house didn't even know it existed, despite being in the president's signature legislation. health care advocate john alker did notice it and has a hunch where it came from. >> how do you think this got in there? >> i don't know. i'm assuming the nra put it in at the last minute. >> reporter: so who put it in there? it might surprise you to learn it was this man, the most powerful democrat in congress, senate majority leader harry

protection from the law. bad companies don't deserve it.thenrahassaid the immunity provided by the 2005 law is vitally important and expected to strongly oppose schiff's bill. avery, how unique is the present immunity that gun industry enjoys? >> it's unbelievable. i think most americans would be shocked, miguel, so to know that in 2005 congress passed a law that said when it came to liability, when it came to negligence, when it came to products liability, the gun industry is absolutely immune. not only can you not bring a suit, you're not even allowed to do discovery. actually, this proposal is really an explosive way of addressing the issue of gun violence. so the question really becomes not legal but rather political. is there any possibility that the house of representatives is going to go along with representative schiff's proposal, and i think the proposal gets blown up like a tick on dracula. i don't think it has a chance. >> richard, if this immunity is taken away, what kind of lawsuits could gun manufacturers face? >> well, it's simple, miguel. for instance, if you went to buy

of why current gun-control laws simply are not enfrced.thenra's waynelapierre insisting new laws will not curtail violence, now while the government already refuses to enforce existing laws. but the fact is we could dramatically and -- cut crime with guns and save lives all over this country if we would start enforcing the 9,000 federal laws we have on the books. i'm talking about drug dealers, gangs, felons. there is simply not being enforced. the numbers are shocking. lori: meanwhile, in the murder capital of the united states, the city with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation among the mayor is again practicing chicago are mending intimidation politics. asking several mutual funds to blacklist and manufacturers who do not go along with a left-wing attack on the second amendment. his statement reading, just like the banks and pension funds, i believe that these mutual funds can exert an enormous amount of influence by taking a stand against the manufacturers that continued to refuse to support common sense reforms like required background checks and an assault weapons

member ofthenra. peoplewho have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common ground and not just look at guns but also mental health issues and where that is in the equation and school safety issues. it's going to be an interesting discussion tonight, wolf. >> i'm really looking forward to it. i hope you find common ground. this is a critically, critically important issue for our entire country. anderson's town hall tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. >>> up next, a catastrophic flooding taking an enormous economic toll on australia and they have an impact felt around the world. ake someone happy.♪ ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ ♪make just one heart to heart you - you sing to♪ ♪one smile that

control laws. executive vice president ofthenrasaidthe focus should be on making schools more secure, more aggressive. prosecution of gun criminals and fixing the country's mental health system. wayne la pierre says gun laws are not the answer. >> while we are ready to participate in a meaningful effort to solve these pressing problems we must disagree with some members of the committee and many in the media and all the gun control groups on what will keep our kids and keep our streets safe. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals. nor do we believe government should dictate what we clawfulln and use to protect our families. we have to be honest about what works and what does not work. proposals that would serve to burden the law abiding have failed in the past and will fail in the future. semi-automatic firearm technology has been around for a hundred years. they are the most popular guns for hunting, target shooting, self-defense. despite this fact, congress banned the manufacture and sale of hundreds of semi-automatic firearms and

action the shooter cho, including that day, was already illegal. a spokesman forthenrasaidthat it is disappointing, but not surprising that she, senator feinstein, is focused on curtailing the constitution instead of protecting -- excuse me, prosecuting criminals or fixing our broken mental health care system. many say that they are not ready to support a new assault weapons ban. lou: thank you very much. shannon bream, fox news correspondent. one side claims we must reduce firepower available to those who were killed to prevent deaths when we can. many say that the 1994 assault weapons ban did nothing to rectify this. our two guests join us now to discuss the matter. thank you both for being with us tonight. are you hopeful that dianne feinstein's legislation will actually be template for what the democratic party will achieve? >> well, her bill is part of what the democratic party hopes to achieve and what the president hopes to achieve. gun control has always been a tough night. i helped lead the fight in 1994 when he passes them the first time. sure enough, we did get

around this table. you should know that tomorrow i have also invited the gun owners andthenratocome and make their case, as well. >> well, to help us set the stage through all of this i want to bring in jeffrey toobin. the gun lobby says this is all about the second amendment. where is the legal line between the so-called individual right to bear arms and government responsibility to look after people? >> well, michael, i am going to give you a ringing i'm not sure to that answer because the supreme court has not really classified th clarified this. in 2008 the supreme court said there is a constitutional right under the second amendment to possess a hand gun in your home for self protection. how does that apply to larger weapons? how does it apply to weapons outside the home? how does it apply to background checks for the purchase of weapons? these are legal questions that remain open now. it is probably true that assault weapon bands would have no problems constitutionally. because the supreme court has really changed the understanding of the second amendment and people can read i

a larger debate about military style assault rifles. right afterthenra's pressconference. police commissioner of new york city ray kelly was angry at the press conference because he thought that the nra should have addressed military assault rifles. that there should have been some concession here. he was specifically talking about new york city. his jurisdiction. can we have a larger debate about this? does this law maybe prestage a larger national law. so military assault style rifle bans, these large capacities, ammunition clips. is that something we will see nationally? will that pass congress? is that something that needs to happen? i want to applaud the president for doing something. that something is probably not what we need to do. who is going to be affected by all of these laws? whether it's reducing the amount of rounds a weapon can handle? whether it's the modification of the weapon. it's only going to be the honest, innocent people that these new laws are going to effect. just like you said, tucker. the love these weapons are already on the street. you enact these ne

at all, if he wanted to win over gun rights advocates, skeet shooting isn't exactly on target.thenrasaid"the second amendment is not about shooting skeet and it's not a tradition. it's a fundamental right upheld by the u.s. supreme court." so while obama seemed to be reaching out, however awkwardly, to gun owner, the whole thing may have backfired. obama skeet shooting on target or telling? facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. ♪ [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year. ♪ for a limited time, take advantage of this exceptional offer on the all-new cadillac ats. so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi tha

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