So I am eyeballing a new frame, possibly doing a new build...and was hunting around.
I saw this on ebay and wanted to see if anyone has seen the likes....
Its basically the raw frame before paint, powdercoat, etc....

He told me: "These frames are made by Kinesis, they are one of the largest manufacturers and suppliers in Taiwan. "

I just wonder if they are factory blems....

New frames can be purchased in the orient for $25.00. Usually with a manufactured item like a bicycle frame when something is done wrong it's played off as an isolated issue if it's not immediately noticeable. If the issue is such that it would render the bike unsalable it will never leave the building. 99.9% of the defective bikes are made by large reputable manufacturers because they product so many bikes so quickly but they usually have great quality control and consistency.