wafflecombine wrote:Here is the vid of the Cooke hit on Karlsonn. Holy crap does that look painful. I knew someone once who broke their Achilles. It was a long, slow, viciously painful recovery process.

I ruptured my left achilles in 2001 while rounding third and heading for home in softball. I intially thought I was hit in the back of the leg by the ball on a throw home. I did a big barrell roll and had my team cracking up and I got up complaining about getting hit by the ball... but was told the ball was still in the outfield. I then realized my foot was dangling there like a dead fish and I sat back down. The catcher then walked up to me and tagged me out.

A firefighter was on the other team and came over - he told me right away I had ruptured my achilles. It hurt pretty bad for about 5 minutes, but then their was no pain at all. I got a buddy to drive my 5 speed home as the dead fish in my cleat could not clutch and I slept that night without any pain medication.

In the morning I went to the clinic and they sent me right to the hospital. I had surgery the same afternoon. The surgeon said it was like sewing two mops back together. What still puzzles me today is I went into surgery with a new pair of underwear on. I came out without any underwear. Why did I lose my gonch when they were operating on my lower leg?

I was in a cast for 10 weeks. There was pain for only the first few days, and that was due to the surgical scar. When the cast was taken off, my ankle had no range of motion and my calf muscle had shrank alot. To this day, my left calf is about 1 inch smaller in diameter than my right.

I got back to hockey that winter and my ugly, warped and extra-wide achilles did not fit well in my boot. Right away the scar began to rub raw in my skate and I would finish each game with a bloody sock. It actually got so bad I quit playing for a few years. I then met another guy with the same problem and he told me about some taping tricks and a guy who customizes skates. It helped alot and I'm back to playing again, but the 7 inch purple surgical scar remains.

I didn't have much pain with mine. Karlsson did look in alot of pain - I assume it was due to a cut over a rupture. Regardless, the recovery time is long not due to pain, but due to the time needed to heal an important tendon and the atrophy of the leg and ankle after being in a cast for 10 weeks. How long was Bieksa gone again with his achilles cut?

Thanks for the first hand info Larry. I can only relate what a friend told me about their experience. However you look at it though, this will take quite some time to heal properly and I really wonder what sort of impact it'll have on his game going forward.

Damn shame.

Also a shame that it was Cookie who accidently did the slicing. He's worked hard to clean up his game (credit where due) and this is a setback for his "rep rehabilitation"; even though it was an accident. The only way this could have been worse (from an optics perspective) is if the offender had been Raffe Torres.

Speaking of our 4th line, just saw that Manny was place on Injured Reserve for rest of season. No reason given however, there seems to be some suggestion floating out there that its related to his previous eye injury.

TSNBobMcKenzie"The bottom line on Manny Malhotra: there are deep concerns his eye injury/vision are not at level to allow him to safely play the game. Malhotra is reportedly not prepared to formally retire at this time but he's been shut down for balance of the season.I would expect Malhotra to function as an unofficial assistant coach for balance of season, working with players in VAN and AHL CHI."

It has always amazed me that when we have someone on a big contract coming back, or when a return of a player could mean sending someone down on waivers, or have a fine rookie return to the farm that Gillis and Co. find a way to move a body without causing a major disruption. Not that first time IR seems to have come to our aid in unexpected ways. Remember Edler needing back surgery just as Salo was ready to come back. Not saying Edler didn't need surgery but the timing seems planned. Hold off on surgery until Sami is ready then get it done so Edler can be ready for the playoffs. Surgery that they were going to wait until the off season to do. But doing it when they did allowed them to keep all D men at a time when most of us thought one had to go.

Now Manny has vision problems to the point where his safety on the ice is in question. Seriously, like is this sudden or has it been in question all along? Suddenly after returning for the Finals against Boston, all of last year and the first 11 games and now he is at risk because he can't see well enough on the ice. Seriously?!?!? Was he injured? Did he re injure the eye? Has he just realized his vision is causing problems? Like holy smoke batman...

Hockey Widow wrote:It has always amazed me that when we have someone on a big contract coming back, or when a return of a player could mean sending someone down on waivers, or have a fine rookie return to the farm that Gillis and Co. find a way to move a body without causing a major disruption. Not that first time IR seems to have come to our aid in unexpected ways. Remember Edler needing back surgery just as Salo was ready to come back. Not saying Edler didn't need surgery but the timing seems planned. Hold off on surgery until Sami is ready then get it done so Edler can be ready for the playoffs. Surgery that they were going to wait until the off season to do. But doing it when they did allowed them to keep all D men at a time when most of us thought one had to go.

Now Manny has vision problems to the point where his safety on the ice is in question. Seriously, like is this sudden or has it been in question all along? Suddenly after returning for the Finals against Boston, all of last year and the first 11 games and now he is at risk because he can't see well enough on the ice. Seriously?!?!? Was he injured? Did he re injure the eye? Has he just realized his vision is causing problems? Like holy smoke batman...

Yeah well, we didn't plan on losing Luc either so in the end all the bounces even out, you sound like a chocolate fudge version of a Loving Stranger that points the finger of conspiracy just to find the apex of it all.

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Hockey Widow wrote:It has always amazed me that when we have someone on a big contract coming back, or when a return of a player could mean sending someone down on waivers, or have a fine rookie return to the farm that Gillis and Co. find a way to move a body without causing a major disruption. Not that first time IR seems to have come to our aid in unexpected ways. Remember Edler needing back surgery just as Salo was ready to come back. Not saying Edler didn't need surgery but the timing seems planned. Hold off on surgery until Sami is ready then get it done so Edler can be ready for the playoffs. Surgery that they were going to wait until the off season to do. But doing it when they did allowed them to keep all D men at a time when most of us thought one had to go.

Now Manny has vision problems to the point where his safety on the ice is in question. Seriously, like is this sudden or has it been in question all along? Suddenly after returning for the Finals against Boston, all of last year and the first 11 games and now he is at risk because he can't see well enough on the ice. Seriously?!?!? Was he injured? Did he re injure the eye? Has he just realized his vision is causing problems? Like holy smoke batman...

Yeah well, we didn't plan on losing Luc either so in the end all the bounces even out, you sound like a chocolate fudge version of a Loving Stranger that points the finger of conspiracy just to find the apex of it all.