Dion Jordan is not worth a top 10 pick as a guy who protects as a secondary pass rusher and not the main pass rush threat. The fit is there for the current Jets scheme, but I'd hope that whoever we get to be our GM would realize that you don't take a Sam backer with the 9th pick. The way your board is the Jets should take Mingo or Jarvis Jones, no question.

Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

I think it is a risky pick, but I like it for the Colts. I'm more confident in Mingo and Dion Jordan to play as a rush linebacker than Montgomery. Xavier Rhodes would also be a great pick there along with Barrett Jones.

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Bill Polian is cancer wrapped in AIDS delivered in an XXL enema so please don't expect me to disagree with you.

Dion Jordan is not worth a top 10 pick as a guy who protects as a secondary pass rusher and not the main pass rush threat. The fit is there for the current Jets scheme, but I'd hope that whoever we get to be our GM would realize that you don't take a Sam backer with the 9th pick. The way your board is the Jets should take Mingo or Jarvis Jones, no question.

Better technique and more explosive first step, he can generate pass rush on his own. While Jordan is more versatile and can drop back in coverage better, he strikes me as more of a Sam backer in a 3-4 while Mingo has primary weak-side pass rusher potential. He could also be a bust but then again so could Jordan. They're both better athletes than players right now

From a purely draft stock comparison, Mingo is Bruce Irvin and Jordan is Melvin Ingram.

I know that Joeckel is probably the best player in the draft, but I still have a hard time seeing the Lions taking him, unless they don't re-sign Gosder Cherilus. The Lions just took Riley Reiff in the first round last year and Cherilus was arguably a top 3-5 RT last year.

First, the Saints have the #15 pick, not the #16, unless you are projecting some trade in which we are moving down one spot. Second, I disagree with some of my fellow Saints fans--Te'O is a terrible pick for New Orleans. We have a MLB in Curtis Lofton who played very well for us. David Hawthorne played well for us at the SAM once he came back from injury.

With no pass rushing end on the board, Sheldon Richardson would make the most sense here.

Better technique and more explosive first step, he can generate pass rush on his own. While Jordan is more versatile and can drop back in coverage better, he strikes me as more of a Sam backer in a 3-4 while Mingo has primary weak-side pass rusher potential. He could also be a bust but then again so could Jordan. They're both better athletes than players right now

From a purely draft stock comparison, Mingo is Bruce Irvin and Jordan is Melvin Ingram.

That's the fun thing about the draft I guess. While I agree Jordan is more versatile, I see similar tools to develop. Obviously he moves extremely well, think his functional strength is better than Mingo's, runs the arc, to he's got lots of pass rushing upside. From what I saw of Mingo in 2012 he wasn't all that disruptive, but I admittedly need to go watch more of him. Obviously moves well, but I expected more from him this year.

At this point both are relatively raw, could afford to add weight, fit better in a 3-4, and have similar production. Jordan hasn't been playing defense all that long. Your draft stock comparison is a bit confusing to me as Irvin was viewed more as a day 2 guy going in while Ingram was a sure fire first rounder. I do see a versatile player vs. pass rusher idea maybe, but I think Jordan's got a lot more pass rushing upside than Ingram too if he puts on weight since he possesses length that Ingram didn't.

I think Irvin wasn't viewed as a first rounder due to the off field question marks (robbing drug dealers and punching holes in pizza delivery cars) but his combine performance and solid interviews elevated him to the mid-to-early first late in the evaluation process. True most 'draft experts' like mayock and kiper didn't have him that high, but he was definitely that high on at least 2 teams boards. They also had vontaze Burfict as the BPA for like 5.5 rounds too though.

Anyway, I think whoever performs the best at the combine and/or pro days will be picked first, and I'm 90% sure that will be Mingo.