>>77706007Yeah I know. Absolutely love the design. I don't play the X-Wing Miniatures game, but I bought a Defender to have on my shelf.

>>77706020The TIE Defender and TIE Advanced are both completely better than regular TIE's in every way possible.

The Defender was extremely expensive to produce and reserved for limited use, but the Advanced was set to one day replace the TIE Fighter as it's successor.

Even ignoring those two, you have the more common Interceptors, which are also seemingly absent from TFA.

>In-Universe Explanation: ???????

>Movie Making Explanation: "Normies only recognize the original TIE, so we're just gonna' keep using that."

What will probably eventually happen is that it'll be explained that the FO TIE's have all the upgrades of Defenders/Advanced, but has the TIE Imaginary because it was iconic and Hux liked it or something.

They'll probably also reveal more variants as time goes on via comics and such.

Well the in-universe explanation for TIE's was pretty simple. The Empire didn't have any worthwhile opponents to challenge it and instead they needed a blanket-approach to put a lot of fighters in the hands of a lot of pilots to keep their presence pretty pervasive. So they made the honda civic of outer space by the thousands and it worked out just fine since shitty pirates had things that were worse, or the occasional z-95 which wasn't much better.

I understand the TIE-Bomber, it's a specialized craft that does what the TIE can't but makes sacrifices, fine. I don't get the interceptor. it's just a better TIE fighter. It looks like it uses all the same components of a regular TIE just with some different shapes and some minor upgrades. I mean even in all the video game's it's just a little faster with a second pair of the same lazers, not some radical departure requiring a ton of investment.

The TIE-Advanced / Defender / Phantom (lol) all seemed like the empire trying to get fighters that could compete 1-1 with the higher quality rebel equivalent since the numbers game wasn't working for them anymore. When you're a giant evil empire that has millions of pilots you can probably afford to lose some for the sake of efficiency. The First Order probably isn't that big and needs quality over quantity, so I have no fucking idea why they're still using TIE Fighters outside of nostalgia.

Was originally going to be a part of an Arc during TCW that showed where all the non-movie characters were during Episode 3, and what happened to them during Order 66.

So Rex was probably protecting Ahsoka from other Clones who were trying to kill her.

I wonder what other kind of stories we could have gotten from that timeframe.

Quinlan Vos on Boz Pity?Battle of Utapau from the viewpoints of Commander Cody?The full battles with Ki-Adi, Aayla, and Plo Koon? Wolffe desperately trying to stop Plo's Bro's from gunning him down?

Makes me angry TCW got cancelled, those episodes set during Episode 3 sound like they could have been the most heartbreaking stuff in the franchise. RotS was already pretty tragic, so imagine episodes in that vein of storytelling, following about 8 Seasons of us getting attached to the characters?

Something else I realized as I got older about star wars. As a kid I always thought that the TIE pilots were stupid for wearing helmets in a space ship and that the rebel pilots had the right idea.... Wearing your own space suit in a space ship is a thousand times better than just waiting to die the second your cockpit cracks apart. Visibility isn't an issue because you're in a goddamn spaceship with sensors and shit that is probably piped directly into your helmet.

>>77706190>Why isn't there a comic series picking it up where TCW left off?I like to think that it's because they have something like that (or something else) planned in the future.

That's the only explanation I have, because it makes zero sense for them to have put these stories on hold.

We have a ongoing Kanan comic set during the Clone Wars, but not an actual ongoing TCW comic featuring the entire cast? Makes no sense to me other than "we need to tie-in to the current show in specific to advertise it" which is just a bullshit excuse.

I am hoping deep down that there's no comic because they're planning on doing some standalone animated movies (DC does 3 a year, why the hell isn't Star Wars doing this?!)

Nowhere in the original films is the Nebulon-B named as such, or revealed to be a KDY creation. What's likely going to happen since kids don't know what either of those things are it will be re-named like the Corellian Corvette to something more recognizable. Maybe it will be a Dug Attack Ship made by sebulba's race, or maybe those kamino cloners designed it.

>Star Wars: The Force Awakens is scheduled to premiere in Los Angeles on December 14, 2015. It will be released in France, Italy and other European nations on December 16, in Germany and the United Kingdom on December 17, and in the United States and Japan on December 18

>>77706335I feel like a balance is the best way to please everyone though. By not doing any Clone War era stuff, you're alienating all of the fans that stuck with the franchise in the 10 years with no movie.

Filoni and Pablo even addressed this at Celebration, stating that they were putting TCW characters into Rebels for this exact reason.

Plus there's the fact that most of the first year of the entire Clone War, and the final and most important months, are all still empty in Canon. They gotta' get back on that eventually.

And in fairness, they have been. Dark Disciple, Son of Dathomir, and Kanan have all slowly been filling in the gaps left by TCW's absence, in the same way that the rest of the books and comics are filling in the gaps left by the EU Purge.

As long as they can maintain some kind of balance so that we as fans get a nice variety of stories with all kinds of characters and era's, I'll be happy.

The balance is there, as you say there's still bridging characters in Rebels to catch up on the TCW arcs and get the stuff they didn't have time to do. But the thing to remember is that a lot of people out there, even people who come here and frequently spout their opinions, just dislike prequel era material on principle. They won't even give TCW a watch to see how bad/good it is, or they watched the animated movie and shrugged and gave up.

Disney are anything but fools. They know that they have a huge market to tap by appealing to OT fanboys, most of whom are now adults with their own families (IE will buy merch for their own kids based on their tastes). They've seen the internet nerd rage and know there's nothing but positive PR for them to go out and say "hey, remember the original movies? those were the best!"

And the prequel fans will still stick around because they're probably also OT fans and follow stuff like Rebels because it has the same creative team as TCW. Largely the same creative team anyway.

>>77706020>>77706040>>77706099The 'we upgraded things'' makes a little bit of sense. If you don't have the resources to produce a bunch of the high tech stuff you go with what you had and improve. Look at tank design in WWII. Firefly is just an upgunned and better Sherman.

The problem though seems to be that these guys have plenty of ability to create new things (new drop ships, star destroyers, AT-ATs, ect.) so why not ditch the old model and find something that works better? Or at least work off a better template. Use an interceptor or advanced or defender.

>>77706020The FO seems to be all about galvanizing people from birth and then throwing them into the meat-grinder. I assume it's the same for the TIE pilots. They're getting a stock TIE with some upgrades (it's called TIE/fo, not TIE/ln). There's also a two-person Spec Forces TIE, with a rearward turret and an antenna.

>>77706102he's palling around with some potato-faced GRRL POWR twelve year old with a jew nose that could poke the death star from alderaanother than that it's a fairly barebones comic desu , decent but nothing particularly stand-out minus the novelty of mute protagalso whoever the fuck draws it has chewie's face hair so damn pronounced he looks like he has a fucking mustache all the time

>After two weeks of underwhelming "character development", we finally get an episode featuring the two best characters as the leads>Kanan and Rex Bro-Op, undercover A New Hope style>Featuring the first ever visual appearance of an Interdictor (Yes we know how it ends, doesn't mean we aren't going to get kick-ass action scenes from it)>And has been hyped as one of the best episodes of the show from Freddie Prince Jr. himself.

I can understand the disappointment from the past two weeks underwhelming episodes (the Sabine one being my personal least favorite entry into canon so far, fuck Ketsu), but ya'll have no reason to not be excited for tonight's episode. It's going to be cool as fuck.

>read Vader #13 after Vader Down>expect some DBZ shit>Vader just makes the rebels' own thermal detonators blow in their belts, reflects some tank lasers to create a smoke screen, and then goes to town on them when they can't see him.

>Rebels send speeders against him>Expect him to Use the Force>It turns out that he just ripped out his TIE's laser cannons to make an AA placementWhy is Gillen such a better writer?

They just confirmed that, aside from the 16 maps that will be released periodically via the Season Pass, there's also going to be COMPLETELY FREE stuff released too.

We knew that we would be getting two levels set on Jakku completely free, but they have confirmed that there's more free maps to be announced in the future.

It's a small victory, but it means they're finally addressing the lack of variety in maps issue.

So if any of you were put off buying the game at launch because of the lack of maps, then perhaps you can wait for a drop in price, and buy it when it has more maps available via the free DLC.

Credit where credit is due, this is definitely something I am happy about.

Although I will be completely disappointed if these are just more Hoth/Tatooine maps and not actually new Planets. I mean, Jakku is free DLC and a new Planet, so it's not too out-there to assume the other free maps will be new planets too, right?

>>77711043I am definately hoping for more "alien worlds". My biggest problem with Battlefront (and by extension TFA) is the lack of truly Alien worlds. I get what they're going for by making things grounded and realistic, but I don't wanna' play Star Wars games for their realistic looking locations.

I want to fight in the Sinkhole city of Utapau. I want to fight in the swamps of Felucia. I want more than anything, to play on Coruscant. How can you make a Star Wars game and not have a futuristic city level? I was expecting Bespin at the very least.

If they add Clone Wars (which definitely wont be free, they'll be saving that for the paid DLC if they're doing it) then I want Umbara, Geonosis, the battle of Kamino.

And for a wildcard, why not a level based on the Mandalorian Civil War on Mandalore? Throw in Maul and Bo Katan as the Hero/Villain characters.

And I was thinking, for Fighter Squadron, we can get Vader in a TIE Advanced X1, and on the heroes side, the Ghost. Seems abysmally lazy that they only have 2 hero characters for that game mode.

The fucking PSP games from half a decade ago had a "vehicle hero" system too, and they had way more characters to choose from.

>>77711133I'm assuming that all free DLC maps will be relating to the OT. I think they will definitely give us Clone Wars in the season pass and the Resistance vs First Order either in the season pass or possibly free but anything related to TFA for free will be like Jakku, related to TFA but takes place in the OT

>>77711169you should play it somewhere, it has important new canon scenery, like the jawa castle (mquarries concept art). It also gives you a really accurate feeling on how the galactic civil war felt like. Full of details we nerds get crazy

The main one, featured in Walker Assault/Supremacy is a large level set on an Imperial Weapons factory. Not much to say about it other than theres a bunch of Rebels fighting a bunch of Stormtroopers in a factory where the open areas are full of lava streams.

Then there's the survival mission, which is in a similar location, with a brief intro cutscene about some Rebels stealing plans. (They dont way what in particular, but there's holograms of AT-AT's and Interceptors.)

Then there's a Single Player training mission which is pretty damn cool. You play in an AT-ST Walker fighting Rebels on Sullust, and in the distance there's a big battle between Vader's SD, and a Rebel Cruiser (ends with the Cruiser falling to the planet sending black dust clouds everywhere)

>>77711314I was wondering about that castle! I saw the level (Jawa's settlement I think it's called) and in Fighter Squadron you can fly up close. And I was thinking "Those buildings are tiny! What was Dice thinking... Unless... Are they for Jawa's? Jawa's have homes!?"

All this time I thought they lived in their sandcrawlers, but I guess now they have canon homes.

>>77711251>I'm assuming that all free DLC maps will be relating to the OTWhat do we have left, though? There's Yavin 4, which isn't that different from Endor, and Cloud City, I guess, and that's about it.

Yeah, he was constantly remixing ideas into various iterations of script. Also some things he just straight up changed his mind on, such as "Yoda is a total pushover when it comes to fighting and never uses a lightsaber".

>>77712213>Star Wars WW2/Vietnam>Not in the Star Wars war game>Galactic Civil War was Senators dicking around and small skirmishes where like 3 people fought in a small ships. Basically the American Civil War where half of it was social movements and small battles if you could even call them that>Is in the Star Wars war game

Twilight had to fortify a massive refinery they'd retreated to after plans seriously went to shit. Empire threw a massive army at them instead of orbital bombardment to keep the factory intact and part of why they'd survived was redirecting the lava flow down the mountain.

It sounded like a fun stage, but it sounds like it's nothing as intense as it was in the book. Trenches, scout walkers and all kinds of dirty fighting.

Not just that.I know how much everyone jerks to the galactic civil war, but it still comes down to rebels vs empire, something that happens all the time in (non)fiction.At least the clone wars had this whole organic vs anorganic army thing going on.We got to enjoy the progression on both sides and a larger scale warfare with more specialized units.

Although I would've loved to have clone and droid banner on the Death Star about neither army knowing where the fuck they are.>The droids have taken a command post!>where?>I don't know! I don't even know how we got here!?

>first issue has him going around blowing things up with force>second issue is him using the bare minimum to destroy things>kill rebel army by arming their detonators in their belts, making a smokescreen, than going to lightsaber town>makes his crashed fighter into an AA emplacement

>>77713497Yeah, I assume all units in the new games are automatically canon. They had one of the TOR freighters in Galactic Defense. But it was only used as a transport by the Onderon rebels and none of the backstory was described.

>>77713930There are many different types across different worlds and armories, but most of them are speeders or repulsorcraft. The T#-B series from their RTS games and the AAC series from Battlefront spring to mind. They don't use captured walkers as often as I would if I was a rebel. Did Chewie ever keep his stolen AT-ST? The walker that won the war.

>>77713469>I know Vader's the hero, but I wish the rebels weren't such pushovers. He mows them down like it's nothing and avoids instant death against armies because of his massive plot armor. I just wish our antagonists were more threatenin...

>>77714166You know what I just realized? They're being pretty definite about all these OT era comics. Just think, it's pretty bold to say "There will only be 5 issues of Lando in the new canon and that's it".

Does anyone else get the feeling we're going to start getting fucking tons of ST shit next year? Like more than anyone thinks we will? I get the feeling we'll see tons of comics about ST era characters next year that we haven't heard about yet since the movie isn't out.

>>77714218It makes sense that we should be getting ST era comics next year. But, I don't think they'll make an on-going series out of it, or at least have one on-going with some like Lando or Chewbacca that are short.

>>77714649>big red nose>short hair for a girl>14? 20? somewhere in between?>tomboy>looks hispanic, maybe mixed, nah she might be middle easternYep, it's tumblr. A big clump of different bullshit pushed into a single person like when you mix all the play-doh colors together just to appear politically correct.

House Ordo here. I might not be streaming tonight, prior engagements and all that. But I do have more TCW episodes on prepared, so you all have a bunch stuff to fill the void I might leave. We'll find out around air time.

>>77715978>That may work for different franchises, but seeing as how everything with SW is interconnected and canon, skipping out on some parts because you don't like them means you miss something.

I doubt it. This was something Leland Chee was aware of before the new continuity started. Everything beyond the movies will remain supplemental, as it always was. If you partake in the sideshow then you'll know more about what's going on or the background of certain characters, etc, but they won't force you to watch a cartoon or read a comic to understand what is going on. The movie still need to stand on their own.

But this doesn't mean the periphery stuff is lessened. As much as the Prequels do stand on their own, insofar as the story is all there, TCWs is DEFINITELY suggested material given how much it fleshes out and, frankly, redeems a lot of the Prequel material. Just for the superior characterization for Anakin alone it is worth it, but still people can miss all of that and they'll be fine.

>>77711043Mos Eisley would be coolOther places I'd like to see (assuming they're stillgoing full "prequel era isn't fun") would be Cloud City, Dagobah, Yavin IV and the Death Star>Still hoping for Imperial horde mode on Endor where you fight off wave after wave of Ewoks

>>77714411Armor always took some of the edge off a blaster shot. People point out how in TCWs Rex was hit with a high powered sniper shot and it was his armor that saved him, albeit barely. Obi-Wan similarly took a sniper round in a bid to fake his death. The shot was real but he had armor that kept him from being harmed, even more so than Captain Rex.

Like you I found it an interesting thing, but in Chewie's case I give it a pass. The blaster shot would have to pass through the armor, the fur, and all that Wookiee muscle. After all that he may be singed (he did cry out for whatever that is worth) but I can accept it wouldn't penetrate into anything vital. He obviously doesn't treat blasters leveled at himself later as being trivial.

>>77717745Only by 100 years so it isn't that bad. Interestingly though she's as old as the Republic in the new canon so she probably saw the original Jedi/Sith War. I get the feeling we'll see a comic or something with her fighting the ancient Sith.

>>77717672I don't think her acting is stiff. She looked amazing when we saw her crying in the trailer and this scene looks pretty good too.

She didn't show much emotion in the scene with Finn in the desert, but I think that was intentional since Rey has been described as a tough character who tries to keep a cool head whenever possible. I'm much more excited about Kylo Ren, but I still like the chemistry between Rey and Finn. They already feel like real friends which is probably because they are friends in real life as well.

I've only heard the Captain phasma-lady talked about how her character is breaking stereotypical gender roles, which I dont really have a problem with. As long as they dont go full KICK HIM IN THE BALLS!!! I CAN DO IT MYSELF it will be fine..

>>77718643>>77718681first chapter is literally her getting hit on by greasy old men in a bar and when they approach she beats them until they're on the ground crying and crawling away. It's not just one man, it's 2 men described and even more implied.

>>77719880Hell yeah, I used to play that game for hours on end, mostly the multiplayer.

When it was in its prime JA's multiplayer community was amazing. Now, it's dwindled to a few communities(the largest being the MovieBattlesII Mod community) but it's still a great game by itself. The campaign isn't too bad and the lightsaber combat is improved from Jedi Outcast.

>>77718600Not really. Rey is strong and brave, but Kylo is pretty much kicking her ass. But then again, he does the same with Finn and Poe too, so I guess Abrams just wanted to give us a strong villain.

>>77712850Not to mention, from what we've seen of the GCW so far, while there were some open battles, it was mostly a hit and run war. There's just an open warfare itch that the Clone Wars do well to provide.

Rebels is serialized and follows a more linear plot. The pace is slower but if season 1 was any indication the end of season 2 is gonna be great. You need to build up to an event for us to give a fuck about it, and sometimes that takes time. Time that a television show has.

Clone Wars is very pulpy and bounces back and forth throughout the galaxy in each arc. This in and of itself is cool because you don't necessarily have to follow the shoe from beginning to end, you can pop in for an arc or two and be satisfied. I'm still working my way through Clone Wars because you guys on /co/ recommend it so much.