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Fifteen Redskins practices open to the public

The Redskins officially confirmed Tuesday that training camp will start July 29 and announced that 15 practices will be open to the public, including Fan Appreciation Day August 7. With Mike Shanahan in his first season at the helm, the 15 public practices are an increase from years past; last season, under Jim Zorn, only eight training camp practices were open to the public.

Training camp at Redskins Park in Ashburn begins with an open practice on July 29 at 4 p.m. Twelve other public practices will begin at 8:30 a.m. The start times of the remaining two sessions have not been determined.

The sessions are free of charge. Parking lots will be open 90 minutes before the beginning of each practice, and gates will an open an hour before the scheduled start time. The schedule of practices open to the public is below.

Attendees are encouraged to print and fill out a Training Camp Fan Invitation before attending a practice . The invitations will be available on the team's Web site beginning July 6.

The debut of Albert Haynesworth is looming. What would Shanahan do? If Haynesworth leaves, he lost his "beast" defensive tackle, If he stays, he looses a team. Better yet, is Shanahan a master technician in the art of saving face and team to accommodate loosing Snyder's biggest investment on a player? Stay tuned.

I have to say that I am impressed with the way Bruce Allen has begun the process of completely rebuilding the Redskins while still giving us the potential to be sucessful in the present.

He has put forth a major effort to overhaul our biggest area of need (O-line).

At other areas of need, he has put together mini "Over the Hill Gangs" (RB's, WR's, and D-line) out of quality veterans with relatively inexpensive, short term contracts. These guys give us enough quality and depth to have a decent chance of being succesfull now, while buying time until they can be replaced by draft picks and younger free agents in the next couple of years.

I think it's safe to say that RB and D-line will be big priorities for the Skins next year.

The WR situation will be the bigest qustion mark. I think it's clear that this is the last chance for Thomas and Kelly, If one or both prove that they can actually be a quality NFL receiver, then this won't be as much of an area of concern for next year. If they both prove to be flops, then we can expect a major overhaul.

Well what do we all think of this? Reid why aren't you in on this?!?!?!?!

Via Rotoworld.com

The Chargers have "made it known" that unsigned restricted free agent Vincent Jackson will remain available for trade, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.
"Several other teams," reportedly including the Redskins, have joined the Seahawks in expressing interest. Jackson is said to be seeking a long-term deal slightly above the four-year, $47.5 million deal (low on guarantees) that Brandon Marshall signed in April. No-nonsense GM A.J. Smith is apparently prepared to make good on his promise to move on with V-Jax and Marcus McNeil. At this point, a trade would be a lifeline for Jackson's 2010 fantasy value. Jun. 29 - 4:39 pm et

Pretty remarkable to blow that many 4th qtr leads. Five 4th qtr leads blown for a team that won 4 games... just goes to show that if ANYONE had stepped up with big plays, the year could have been entirely different. That'a a lack of playmakers on offense AND defense allowing that to happen.

Parking is free. Would you prefer that all practices be closed to the public? Or do you want the Redskins go give out free food and drinks to the public along with a free jersey during open practices? I don't understand why you're making this a negative thing

I agree with you Kassmaster on all counts. The most pressing problem with turning around a team is to find out what the previous management was doing wrong, correct those problems, and establish the foundation for the direction the team will travel with effective strategic planning and management.
All organizations work this way and everything I have seen out of the Redskins organization since we "cleaned house" has indicated that this is what the Redskins are doing.
The best indications are: players are participating in the program and siding with management (AH), Portis isn't whining (like him or hate him, he made the right call on Zorn/Ceratto), and Danny has taken a desk job, we have an experienced WC offense QB.
Things may not be perfect, but even the incomplete picture of what is going on shows us that thing are much, much better.

Yeah, no matter what danny will get his money or a pound of flesh out of any situation.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if AH doesn't pay the money back an "unfortunate but plausible accident" may befall him...a boating accident, a poison ring ding, a heart attack, being beaten to death with a solid gold menorah, etc.
Danny is not someone one trifles with lightly.

If I remember right, in almost all of those blown 4th quarter leads, our defence gave up yards and points because the were just too worn out by that point.
Our continuous offensive failure kept our otherwise decent defense on the field way too long, and they simply had nothing left in the tank for the home stretch.

Hopefully, with an improved O-line we will have a better rushing attack and can sustain longer drives, keeping the defence much more rested.

If I remember right, in almost all of those blown 4th quarter leads, our defence gave up yards and points because the were just too worn out by that point.
Our continuous offensive failure kept our otherwise decent defense on the field way too long, and they simply had nothing left in the tank for the home stretch.

Hopefully, with an improved O-line we will have a better rushing attack and can sustain longer drives, keeping the defence much more rested.

Posted by: kaasmaster | June 29, 2010 5:39 PM

Our defense also didn't get themselves off the field with turnovers very often.

The Haynesworth issue will not resolve itself easily. AH won't buy himself out, and the Redskins won't be able to get enough to trade him.

Shanahan will give him a talking to and challenge him to man-up or else play a lot more nose tackle than he might otherwise have to play.

If he wants to leave, make him play is way out. So he'll either go out as a bust or a beast. If he goes out like a bust, Shanahan will make his life miserable. If he goes out like a beast, just get him out and try to do it quickly. After another team looses a DT to injury.

Interesting article over on ESPN about which positions are the riskiest in terms of drafting: not surprisingly, RB tops the list. Injuries have a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Samson151

Taking a RB in the first round is generally not a good decision unless it is the final piece in the puzzle. They have a shelf life of about 5 years. With most other positions you can draft a solid 10 year starter.

I'm fairly certain our D has been guilty of running out of steam at critical points during JC's time in DC, so... anyone feel like looking that up?

Posted by: mattsoundworld

don't need to look it up. No question Campbell has struggled in the 4th quarter. But at key moments in 2009, the coach took the ball out of his hands.

3 examples were vs the Saints (up 7), iggles (up 5) and dallas (up 6). In each game, Campbell led a drive with the potential to put us up 2 scores in the 4th quarter.

If we look at the anatomy of what happened in each game, it was remarkably similar.

Each drive ended with a FG attempt. Twice drives ended with 3 running plays followed by the FG attempt on 4th down -- the 3rd time is was 2 runs and a pass on 3rd down and long. 8 runs in 9 plays to end these drives. The coaches took the ball out of Campbell's hands.

Following the FG attempt (2 misses, 1 make), the opponent scored a TD to tie (Saints, iggles) or take the lead dallas).

Its easy to blame Campbell, and he deserves SOME of the 4th quarter criticism he's gotten.

But the bigger problems were the coach, defense and FG kicker, certainly in those 3 games.

Parking is free. Would you prefer that all practices be closed to the public? Or do you want the Redskins go give out free food and drinks to the public along with a free jersey during open practices? I don't understand why you're making this a negative thing

Posted by: --swb

Maybe because several years back Snyder charged ($10?) for practices, then learned that meant you had to let in opposing team scouts. He's not making it free out of the goodness of his heart.

Especially considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th rd pick next year. He's had 2 years of production and I wouldn't want to trade a 1st or even a 2nd for a guy that would then demand 50 mil.

Lets see what DT & MK can do with a professional coach, game plan, and QB.

Unless they would take 380 lbs of shat off our hands in exchange.

Posted by: Diesel44

This is really a tough call. The Redskins are in dire of need of wr help. The problem is that it will certainly cost at least a first rounder to land him. Smith is not going to give him up with getting a big return.

The Redskins really can't afford to go into next year's draft with only a few draft picks. Despite what people may think the Oline definitely needs a couple more players. The front 7 is also going to need an infusion of young players.

The other thing with VJax is although he is extremely talented he has not had great numbers. I was utterly shocked when I looked at his stats and saw that he only had 68 receptions. He wants more than Marshall who is clearly the better player although with more baggage.

Interesting article over on ESPN about which positions are the riskiest in terms of drafting: not surprisingly, RB tops the list. Injuries have a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Samson151

Taking a RB in the first round is generally not a good decision unless it is the final piece in the puzzle. They have a shelf life of about 5 years. With most other positions you can draft a solid 10 year starter.

Posted by: srobert1117

That's an interesting point and it'll become a big deal in the CBA negotiations. RB contracts are unique, as no other position gets peaks as early or ages as quickly. By the time Chris Johnson is a free agent around year 5 or so, he'll be a lot less valuable than he is today.

The guys that ran for 2000 yards and the age they had that big year:
Sanders: age 29
Dickerson: age 24
Terrell Davis: age 26
OJ: age 26
CJ: age 24
Jamal Lewis: age 24

I second Diesel44's position on Vincent Jackson. Unless they take Fat Albert, which I can't picture. (Unless he really is lying about the 3-4 thing.) DT11 and MK12 need to be given a look in the new system. We need the Picks next year more than we need Jackson. Although, maybe they'd be willing to take both DT11 and MK12 in exchange?

Especially considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th rd pick next year. He's had 2 years of production and I wouldn't want to trade a 1st or even a 2nd for a guy that would then demand 50 mil.

Lets see what DT & MK can do with a professional coach, game plan, and QB.

Unless they would take 380 lbs of shat off our hands in exchange.

Posted by: Diesel44

Haven't paid much attention to V Jackson off the field. If his work ethic isn't in question, and he is a team player, his on field production over the last few years suggests he should be paid among the top at his position. Those issues need to be addressed by BA. My second point is that this team is in real need of a #1 WR. Unless both Kelly and Thomas blow this year, the Skins will in all likelihood be in the WR market early in next year's draft. Using the pick this offseason or next isn't the important part, it's getting the impact player that is willing to put in the work to be among the best in the game. Is V Jackson that person, I am not sure. However I am intrigued.

ok....all the fans that still want Marko Mitchell...get over it!!! If he was such a good talent, why can't he land a team. The freaking Lions let him go!!! They are better without him. The receiving corp is a lot better than years past.

I'm glad there will be more open practices. It shows that Shannahan does not fear anyone seeing his team practice during the offseason.

Posted by Evan Silva on June 29, 2010 8:57 PM ET
Somewhat buried at the end of a Tuesday blog post by ESPN's Bill Williamson is some juicy information on Mike Shanahan's background with Vincent Jackson, for whom Shanahan's Redskins are rumored to be contemplating a trade.

According to Williamson, Shanahan has been "a big fan" of Jackson dating back to the 2005 NFL Draft, when Shanahan's Broncos reportedly considered selecting the eventual Pro Bowl receiver. Williamson was covering the Broncos for the Denver Post at the time, so he's a credible source.

Williamson says Jackson was next on Shanahan's draft board when the Broncos selected the late Darrent Williams with the 56th overall pick. Jackson, who played at Northern Colorado, was drafted 61st overall by San Diego, "and the Broncos were not happy about it."

Jackson was relatively slow to develop in San Diego, but went on to post games of 95, 73, and 77 yards against Shanahan's Denver teams during the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

Interestingly, Williamson also "heard" that left tackle Marcus McNeill "may not be as dead set as Jackson on holding out for the long haul." Both players have threatened to sit out through Week Ten of the regular season.

Not only Shanahan, but McCardell too.. They were teammates, weren't they? If the Skins are willing to look at this option, it's because both Kelly and Thomas have been failing to impress in the classroom and/or on the field. The one thing McCardell can help give clarity to is V Jackson's work habits having played with him for a few years. On the other hand, Shanahan knows how Jackson impacts a game plan. Again, if the team is going to give a 2nd round pick or multiple picks for a player, they will need to be sure that they are getting someone who loves the game and is willing to work to improve.

I don't see AJ Smith unloading V Jax for anything lower than a 1st. Marshall went for 2 2nd rd picks. Marshall is one slip up from being suspended. He had worn out his welcome in Denver and was definitely going to get traded. SD is supposed to compete this year and getting a draft pick that can't help them this year is not that enticing.

You think Haynesworth is a distraction? How about your team is expected to be a superbowl contender but your #1 wr is holding out until the 10th game of the season over a contract dispute? The Chargers's window of opportunity is closing fast. They can't have the Jackson distraction hanging around for 10 weeks. Especially if they get off to a slow start, which they usually do. They'll unload the guy. Shanny will pounce once the compensation drops to a 2nd round pick.

And you thought our WR corps was weak. Take VJ off of that list and they're very pedestrian. Makes you wonder why they won't even negotiate with VJ.

This usually isn't my thing but…coparker5…. I've read your drive by nonsense for a year now and not once have you ever posted anything even close to being intelligent. You sound like a 15 yr old girl who's only interested in football because it may make you more popular with the fellas. Go back to the twilght board and come back in a few years.

coparker5- Why trade a 1st or a 2nd and then pay him 50 mil when his career going into his 3rd yr compares to DT and MK. For the last two years VJ has averaged 64 catches 1130 yds and 8 TDs with an all-pro caliber QB, RB, & TE. VJ is 27 and he hasn't had a career even close to Santana's and you want to give up a 1st or 2nd and then pay him bank.

hessone- I use to admire your consistency & perseverance in your hatred for Snyder. I may hate Snyder as much as you but I can also recognize when he appears to be leaving football decisions to football people. It's too bad his learning curve was 10 years.

Diesel44, you think Kelly's and Thomas' careers compare to Vince Jackson's? Those clowns compare more closely to Marques Hagens' career in terms of production. Jackson is the big wr that is vital to Shanny's running game - kinda McCaffrey, Smith, Marshall-like. Or are you waiting for Moss to throw a downfield block? Moss can play the Eddie Royal robin to Jackson's batman in Shanny's offense.

Diesel44, you think Kelly's and Thomas' careers compare to Vince Jackson's? Those clowns compare more closely to Marques Hagens' career in terms of production. Jackson is the big wr that is vital to Shanny's running game - kinda McCaffrey, Smith, Marshall-like. Or are you waiting for Moss to throw a downfield block? Moss can play the Eddie Royal robin to Jackson's batman in Shanny's offense.

Posted by: coparker5 | June 29, 2010 10:59 PM |

I thought the same thing but knowing Diesel I did a little more research and found this:

Having said that I have a little more faith in MK than DT because MK didn't get to play or even practice in his first season. IR killed his rookie season so for all intents and purposes this is his sophomore season.

Just because the Dolphins overpaid Marshall doesn't mean that other teams are going to overpay Jackson. Lots of wr's catch passes in Shanny's offense - hell, Eddie Royal caught 90+ passes his rookie season. If Jackson can accept that he's maybe a $30-$35 million wr he'll be a Redskin.

More times than not it takes a WR a few years to adjust to the pro game and considering we didn't have a professional GM, coach, game plan, all pro caliber QB, TE, or RB....I'd say we aren't in any position to trade a high pick and be left with 1 pick in the first 2 rds and 3 late picks.

More times than not it takes a WR a few years to adjust to the pro game and considering we didn't have a professional GM, coach, game plan, all pro caliber QB, TE, or RB....I'd say we aren't in any position to trade a high pick and be left with 1 pick in the first 2 rds and 3 late picks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | June 29, 2010 11:27 PM

I'm inclined to agree except that our team was so deficient in so many areas that we needed too many players. Problem stems from years of thinking we were only a couple players from making it to the show so we kept burning through draft picks for free agents. By the time we got to the Zorn area we were cash strapped and had a team full of dregs. I don't think anyone argues those last points, though, so I may just be kicking a dead horse.

Shanny doesn't have many throw-away rebuilding years left. He said he wants to win now. He went out and got a QB that gives him a chance to win right now. If he can swing a deal for Vincent Jackson he'll do it cause none of the current Redskin wr's give him a chance to compete in the NFC East (Moss hasn't quite been the Cowboy killer since Roy Williams left Dallas). On the scale of NFL wr's, Thomas and Kelly are going to max-out at the Rod Gardner-Darnerian McCants level. Shanny needs better and he'll go out and get it.

coparker5- Don't sleep on Santana. He had a similar career to VJ, DT, MK going into his 3rd year. He's even averaged more catches than VJ with Zorn as his head coach and OC. VJ would sign up right now for a career like Tana's.

If I'm reading the earlier comment right, VJax plays in 2010 for $600k if he stays in SD?

The Chargers are thinking SB. They have no compelling reason to part with VJax other than a draft pick -- and you don't take a pick and give up on a SB run. Especially since VJax is, relatively speaking, very inexpensive. Jackson's got a major incentive to play well, his price tag goes up if he impresses in a contract year.

So if you're VJax, would you rather:
1. Take $45million for 5 years
2. Take $600k this year and hope to get a 4 year, $44mil deal?

I think VJax makes out better if he can get himself paid in 2010 -- especially with risks in 2011 season.

Diesel, I do the deal at 5 years, $45mil and give up a 2nd rounder. Though I might be able to give up less.

zeke- If I'm A.J. Smith I do the deal and I know V Jack would go for it.

I'm just not sure it's best for us considering we were 4-12 last year and would be lucky to be 9-7 this year and have only a 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th to build on as our QB turned 35 and our DL & LB corps got older with only 1 real pick to improve them.

I've gotta say that I think giving up draft picks is part of the problem that we have had over the last decade+. I can live with giving up what we've already parted with but I would draw the line there. Just my $.02.

zeke- If I'm A.J. Smith I do the deal and I know V Jack would go for it.

I'm just not sure it's best for us considering we were 4-12 last year and would be lucky to be 9-7 this year and have only a 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th to build on as our QB turned 35 and our DL & LB corps got older with only 1 real pick to improve them.

Posted by: Diesel44

my philosophy, I will give up a 2nd rounder for a top player in the heart of his career -- as long as I can get him for 5 years. Every time.

My feeling is that you can only guarantee holding onto a draft pick for about 5 years -- and the first couple he may not be that productive (which pretty much describes VJax's career). Of course, there's a decent chance the guy never pans out in the first place. Low risk to make the trade ... the risk is in the size of the contract.

Second round picks aren't expensive to sign and keep -- not a small issue. But I take the known stud and trade away the risky pick.

WR is -- and is likely to remain -- a position of need. So this trade also solves a real problem we'd need to address anywat.

As for getting old as a team, the deal that turned the corner for me was Jamaal Brown. Brown means we can protect McNabb better and run better. We can compete in 2010, especially if Albert comes ready to play.

I'm pretty torn about this Vincent Jackson stuff...dude is a physical specimen, but he just doesn't have the numbers to back it up. For what we'll have to give up to get him--and then immediately pay him--I'm not sure I'd be so jacked up to get a guy who had 68 catches last year.

Two things about him I like: his yards per catch (17.2 for both last season and his cumulative career) and his TDs (9 last year and 16 the last two combined), both of which are a massive upgrade from what's here now. The only thing is that Norv's offense is more about the downfield passing game and this is a WCO. So I'm not sure those numbers will necessarily translate to this offense the same way.

He's a big WR with big play ability, which is probably what Shanahan is looking at. I like him for the right price, but with his contract demands and A.J. Smith's rep for being a tough guy, I can't see us getting that "right price".

BTW...Funny how the Redskins have Fan Appreciation Day the exact same day as Russ Grimm's HoF induction. Makes for an interesting decision for some of us fans...

If we are trading for WR, lets get Megatron and a 3rd or 4th for AH and CP.

Maybe its Maddenish, but so is giving up a 2nd and 50 large for Vjack.

I say sit still and make DT11 and MK12 prove they are wastoids.

I don't think they are. With Dmac, Familia del Shanny, and two actual NFL OT's I say they suddenly "get it" and look good.

Its worth finding out for a couple weeks in August before we make a move at any rate.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | June 30, 2010 4:33 AM | Report abuse
I'm with you, Kaneohe. MK has great hands, so we know he can catch. Let's see if DMac can deliver the ball. DT has the speed to stretch the field. Let's keep our second, try to develop our own wr's.

He's a big WR with big play ability, which is probably what Shanahan is looking at. I like him for the right price, but with his contract demands and A.J. Smith's rep for being a tough guy, I can't see us getting that "right price".

BTW...Funny how the Redskins have Fan Appreciation Day the exact same day as Russ Grimm's HoF induction. Makes for an interesting decision for some of us fans...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 30, 2010 5:16 AM | Report abuse
True brownie. Shanny has seen a lot of VJax, and now has had OTA's and mini-camp with DT and MK. So he should be in a good position to make that call. MS and BA have made a lot of good calls this spring, so I'll be interested to see what they think.

He's a big WR with big play ability, which is probably what Shanahan is looking at. I like him for the right price, but with his contract demands and A.J. Smith's rep for being a tough guy, I can't see us getting that "right price".

BTW...Funny how the Redskins have Fan Appreciation Day the exact same day as Russ Grimm's HoF induction. Makes for an interesting decision for some of us fans...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 30, 2010 5:16 AM | Report abuse
True brownie. Shanny has seen a lot of VJax, and now has had OTA's and mini-camp with DT and MK. So he should be in a good position to make that call. MS and BA have made a lot of good calls this spring, so I'll be interested to see what they think.

Fritz, it just makes my skin crawl just thinking about having to give up another draft pick, but it's very hard to get a top flight WR in this league--especially one with the combo of size and speed that VJ has.

MK having great hands doesn't impress me if A) he can't stay healthy enough to be on the field to use them or B) the guy can't get open even if he is on the field. I'm not counting on him nearly as much as I am Devin Thomas. With or without Jackson, this team NEEDS Devin Thomas to step his game up.

If you can’t stretch the field, expect more of the same again this year, heavy doses of 8 and 9 defenders in the box. Don’t care who the RB or QB is…They will bring it until you beat it. Ask DM what the Eagles thought about it. Then look at what you got.

Both DT and MK are just 24 yr old. MK has only one year of experience, due to knee problems 1st year. New HC, new OC, new QB...Maybe I'm dreaming, but I want to see what these guys can do in this scheme before I go p*ssing away another draft pick.

VJax 6'5" 230
MK 6'4" 227
DT 6'2" 215

Not sure how VJ compares speed-wise, but we have 2 big receivers, and they are still very young. Let's use them before we discard them.

we have 2 big receivers, and they are still very young. Let's use them before we discard them.

Posted by: frediefritz | June 30, 2010 6:36 AM

Normally, I would co-sign this but this is a new regime. Shanahan has no ties to these guys and has made no investment in them. So if he develops them, it's gravy as far as I'm concerned. But if he's already made up his mind that they can't play, then we're better off moving now.

And here's a thought...what if the deal for VJ actually included Devin Thomas? You give up another big, young WR but maybe it we give up a lesser pick instead of a high one?

Normally, I would co-sign this but this is a new regime. Shanahan has no ties to these guys and has made no investment in them. So if he develops them, it's gravy as far as I'm concerned. But if he's already made up his mind that they can't play, then we're better off moving now.

And here's a thought...what if the deal for VJ actually included Devin Thomas? You give up another big, young WR but maybe it we give up a lesser pick instead of a high one?

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 30, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse
I agree, assuming that he has made up his mind. But we have no way of knowing that. He would be smart, regardless of his opinion of DT and MK, to show interest in VJax. And if the price is not too much, ie a 2nd rd pick, he might pull the trigger. My point is that we haven't really seen what DT and MK can do. Others have pointed out that many WR's finally "get it" in their 3rd year. VJax seemed to get it his 3rd year. So let's not be too quick to jettison our 3rd year players.

fritz, MK is an afterthought because he can't stay healthy. I never liked that pick, so I don't mind cutting our losses there. But you're right on DT...I think he can take a step up this year and getting McNabb only helps that.

That's why it seems to me a trade for VJ would help no matter what...if DT shows up solid, they're a damn good tandem of big WRs. If he doesn't, he's there in lieu of DT in the lineup and we have to pick up another guy in next year (or probably the year after)'s draft.

I just HATE giving up picks and going into drafts with only 4 selections. Hopefully, there's a dramatic change in philosophy there once we get the core of the team set up.

Yes to VJ. The team needs a big receiver to complement Moss. DT might pan out but I wouldn't put him in the category of "big receiver". I don't like giving up draft picks but maybe they can work a deal with a player and a pick. What may make this a moot discussion is the fact that Allen and Shanahan have not brokered a "mega deal" since they came on board if you consider the Haynesworth deal was already negotiated. I don't know what the philosophy is in the front office now, but it seems to be one of tight-fisted fiscal constraint, which means the Redskins will ultimately say "no" if the deal means a new mega contract. Meanwhile, Javon Walker is still available...

Randall Cunningham's 2-year-old son drowns in family hot tub
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 30, 2010 7:59 AM ET
The 2-year-old son of former NFL quarterback Randall Cunningham has died in an apparent accidental drowning in the hot tub at the family home in Las Vegas.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that Christian Cunningham, who would have turned 3 in December, died after being found floating in the backyard hot tub.

Randall Cunningham is pastor of Remnant Ministries and performs baptisms in the hot tub at his home, the paper reports. He was not home at the time.

According to the report, a woman at Cunningham's house was with several children when she found Christian at about 4:30 p.m. The woman pulled Christian out and began performing CPR until paramedics arrived, and he was taken to St. Rose Dominican Hospital, where he died.

Cunningham went to UNLV and played 16 seasons in the NFL, making four Pro Bowls. He retired following the 2001 season.

"Sinkhole opens outside Titans' stadium
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 30, 2010 7:22 AM ET
A sinkhole estimated at 20 to 30 feet wide and 4 to 5 feet deep has opened just outside LP Field in Nashville, where the Tennessee Titans play."

"Sinkhole opens outside Titans' stadium
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 30, 2010 7:22 AM ET
A sinkhole estimated at 20 to 30 feet wide and 4 to 5 feet deep has opened just outside LP Field in Nashville, where the Tennessee Titans play."

I'm wondering if AH is looking for a place to work.

Posted by: frediefritz | June 30, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was God trying to get rid of those awful uniforms.

BTW, one thing Skins fans need to embrace is that this team has not been a good team for developing Wide Receivers over the past few years. If people want to give 11 & 12 a shot, I say go for it.

But personally I would be ready to accept that Bruce and Mike will go grab a couple top free agent receivers next off season.

Both DT and MK are just 24 yr old. MK has only one year of experience, due to knee problems 1st year. New HC, new OC, new QB...Maybe I'm dreaming, but I want to see what these guys can do in this scheme before I go p*ssing away another draft pick.

VJax 6'5" 230
MK 6'4" 227
DT 6'2" 215

Not sure how VJ compares speed-wise, but we have 2 big receivers, and they are still very young. Let's use them before we discard them.

Posted by: frediefritz | June 30, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

For the most part they both missed most of the first season due to laziness. They showed up to training camp out of shape and not ready to compete, MK more so then DT.
For me they had two different progressions toward the league as well. DT i think was only a one or two year starter at MSU and was considered very raw coming out of school. MK had a lot more playing time in college but managed to miss all of his teams bowl games, which at okla where often due to injuries. That aspect always scared me about MK, not sure if Ill ever fully trust that knee.
Now seeing that DT has had a better transition into the pros he is a player that I would really like to keep and try to build upon. Mk still having route running problems is not a good sign, nor is the fact that he is still TD less despite his size advantage. Obv this is a make or break year for both of them but that is why I would force their play by picking up VJ.
I have no problem paying for a WR with size and speed in their prime if a team does not want him due to contract issues. As the skins we overpay anyhow so send him our way. I dont like having to give up a draft pick as we keep handing them out but if thats the price you have to pay to establish your team with a #1 receiver in their prime then it may be worth it. No one could argue about the wr corp if you picked him up he instantly solidifies it.

The general consensus of what we've heard is that San Diego Chargers GM A.J. Smith is unlikely to trade away star receiver Vincent Jackson just because No. 83 is playing contract hardball this offseason. For one, it sets a horrible precedent. Furthermore, he won't get fair value back in trade.

Still, the rumors persist. On Tuesday afternoon, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune updated the situation, passing along word from his sources that not only are the Seattle Seahawks still interested after being rebuffed in the past, but that "several other teams" are also interested, including the Washington Redskins.

In addition, Acee reports that the Jackson camp is seeking a new contract (from the Bolts or a team to which he is traded) that exceeds the one signed by Brandon Marshall following his trade to the Miami Dolphins (four years, $47.5 million).

ESPN AFC West blogger Bill Williamson added two more teams to the list of possible trade partners -- the Denver Broncos and Chicago Bears, although he admits that the Chargers likely wouldn't trade Jackson within the division -- and also reported an interesting twist to this saga. Given what we've heard about the Bears love for their incumbent wideouts, they would seem like an unlikely trade partner (and Michael C. Wright of ESPNChicago.com doesn't see them anteing up the picks or big contract for him). Williamson's NFC North counterpart Kevin Seifert provided his take on their interest on Wednesday.

So now it appears Michael Vick left the club in Virginia only 3 minutes prior to the shooting, and the shots came from the direction in which he'd gone... not 20 minutes as previously reported. Roddy White of Atlanta was with him.

I drowned in a pool when I was about 5 or so. I was very lucky to have people around and be resuscitated. Back then pools weren't fenced in. I don't know how you'd have one that wasn't these days.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 30, 2010 9:13 AM

Glad you're here to tell the tale, Dik.

Reports are that it was a hottub and not a pool, though. Seems to me a kid that size could drown in even the smallest of tubs...regardless of whether there was sufficient fencing as a deterrent. The thing I don't get is how it took so long for whomever the responsible party was (and I use that term loosely) to figure out what had happened.

siris, the only guys on that list I could see SD getting any use out of is Willie Parker, Santana Moss, and/or Mike Sellers. And none of those guys is good enough individually or collectively to land us VJ without adding a draft pick.

Remember...SD runs a 3-4. So guys like McIntosh, Carter and Haynesworth won't have the same kind of value to them that they would to a team that runs a 4-3.

siris, the only guys on that list I could see SD getting any use out of is Willie Parker, Santana Moss, and/or Mike Sellers. And none of those guys is good enough individually or collectively to land us VJ without adding a draft pick.

Remember...SD runs a 3-4. So guys like McIntosh, Carter and Haynesworth won't have the same kind of value to them that they would to a team that runs a 4-3.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 30, 2010 9:33 AM
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Well, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a multi-team trade. Maybe AC to Carolina for a thrid round pick which we package with a lower round pick for VJ? Heck, that's a long shot, isn't it? I keep coming back to the fact that he might not get the contract he wants with the Redskins, so that just shoots the whole thing down. Maybe the whole "Redskins are interested" thing is just someone using the Skins as a way to drive up the trade value. Did I mention that Javon Walker is still available?

moe, that hot breath you feel on the back of your neck.....thats the Sox....and that stink of a rotting carcass...thats the rays...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 30, 2010 9:31 AM
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Sox breath on the back of your neck? Village People's "Macho Man" playing in the background? Sounds like gay pride week in Boston...

"Barring a surprise release, there won't be a very good WR class next year...Randy Moss and Donald Driver is about it. So we're looking at either trading for and/or drafting another guy.This may be the reason why they're going to give this VJ trade a REALLY good look...Posted by: brownwood26"

An unusually strong WR draft, however. Here's a list. Every one is 6'2" and 200lbs or over, and some of them are the size of Vincent Jackson:

Reports are that it was a hottub and not a pool, though. Seems to me a kid that size could drown in even the smallest of tubs...regardless of whether there was sufficient fencing as a deterrent. The thing I don't get is how it took so long for whomever the responsible party was (and I use that term loosely) to figure out what had happened.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 30, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

No doubt it is tragic. I have a hottub here at the beach, and I keep the lid latched. But with several kids at the house, maybe they had been using it, so the lid was already open.

"The general consensus of what we've heard is that San Diego Chargers GM A.J. Smith is unlikely to trade away star receiver Vincent Jackson just because No. 83 is playing contract hardball this offseason. For one, it sets a horrible precedent. Furthermore, he won't get fair value back in trade."

Agreed. The only way that Smith trades VJax is if Smith becomes convinced that he will sit out until the 10th game of the season, and then come in to accrue another year towards free agency.

While I wholeheartedly agree with the latter comment, you still give AH waaay too much credit...I mean, if winning was REALLY important to him, he would never have left Tennessee. The 13-3 season you think he'll look at in SD is EXACTLY what he was leaving in Nashville. I doubt he magically started to care about winning, especially now that he's paid.

Trust me...I'd LOVE a VJ for AH trade straight up. Believe me, I would sprint away from the bargaining table giggling like a schoolgirl before they even knew what him 'em. But there's no chance the self-proclaimed tough guy A.J. Smith takes that deal.

I'm still holding out hope that the Raiders give us Richard Seymour for AH straight up...

NEXT...There are several teams interested in VinceJAck, we just happened to be the only one mentioned. That doesn't mean we are the leading canidadate. And he will get no where close BMarshall money...But he will get a $7Mil/yr avearge....

It's really hard to tell which of our fleet of receivers are going to step up this year without seeing any of them at least in training camp, but one thing's for sure: I don't want to see them trade away any more draft picks, especially for a slightly disgruntled prima donna like this. Surely four of our current guys will be able to do the job. Plus, Donovan McNabb tends to make receivers look good. I'm therefore not in favor of this or any trade for a WR.

It's really hard to tell which of our fleet of receivers are going to step up this year without seeing any of them at least in training camp, but one thing's for sure: I don't want to see them trade away any more draft picks, especially for a slightly disgruntled prima donna like this. Surely four of our current guys will be able to do the job. Plus, Donovan McNabb tends to make receivers look good. I'm therefore not in favor of this or any trade for a WR.

Unless we can get VJ for a fraction of his actual trade value, forget him. We may not have an excellent offense this year, we should just accept that these things take time. Experience has taught us that high-priced FA's are generally not the answer but are more of a burden.

lol, that's why we signed Furrey, Wade, and Galloway....cause DT11 is impressing the heck out of the Shannies.

I don't want VJax because we've already given away enough picks next year. (I love the JBrown and McNabb deals but no more picks need to be traded away) There's absolutely no way that SD, a 3-4 team, would trade for fat Albert when they couldn't possibly write a check bigger than the one we gave him and he's a malcontent that doesn't want to play in a 3-4. So they're going to trade a consistent and successful in their system malcontent for a bigger more expensive malcontent that has no desire to play in their system? No way.

I absolutely love our offseason so far. The JBrown trade was HUGE!!! now we have talent and depth on the line, we have an elite QB, we have depth at running back (btw, IMHO Ryan Torrain is our 3rd back and WP gets cut or traded in camp), talent and depth at TE, our defense will be stronger with players used properly and aggressively finally and Moss will benefit from having a real QB. Don't mortgage more of the future for an already suspended for 4 games problem child at WR. Use Davis and Cooley out wide, lots of two TE sets, and just deal with inconsistent #2 WR production. As Shawn Springs said on Redskins Now the other night, the biggest pickup this offseason for us will end up being Kyle Shanahan. "Look at what he did in Houston, after their TE got hurt that offense had one real weapon, Andre Johnson, and Shaub threw for over 4000 yards." Well, our offense has 3 to 4 legit weapons, Cooley, Moss, Davis, and maybe Portis/LJ if he's rejuvinated, what should be a more dependable rushing attack than what Houston had, what appears to be a better offensive line now, and I think most sane people would say McNabb vs. Shaub is at worst a wash and most would agree that McNabb is the better QB. We should be solid this year and next offseason we can address the receiver position in the draft. McNabb is only 33, he has 5 good years left in him if we protect him and now we actually have a line to do so, we're under no time crunch to find the "QB of the future". Roll with what we have which is pretty damn good IMHO and worry about getting more receiver help next year.

I've been saying that for days now. WaPo is on top of it I'm sure. They are immersed in meeting after meeting trying to come to a consensus on when and how to replace the pic. We only have 80 or so Skins players to choose from.
This is the Washington Ravens blog site isn't it?

Unless we can get VJ for a fraction of his actual trade value, forget him. We may not have an excellent offense this year, we should just accept that these things take time. Experience has taught us that high-priced FA's are generally not the answer but are more of a burden.

Case in point: How does New England build championship teams?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 30, 2010 10:34 AM
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They build through the draft, sign a few free agents to plug holes and then video tape other team's practices so they know the plays they are going to run before they run them. Next question?

I don't believe we will see any significant trades the remainder of the way. If they trade AH it will be for a 3rd at best. AJ smith is not going to dump Vjax. He knew this was coming. If he wanted to trade him he would have had him out there when the Broncos traded Marshall. The only way he gets traded is if someone overwhelms them with at least a 1st and probably another pick in the 2012 draft.

I've been saying that for days now. WaPo is on top of it I'm sure. They are immersed in meeting after meeting trying to come to a consensus on when and how to replace the pic. We only have 80 or so Skins players to choose from.
This is the Washington Ravens blog site isn't it?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | June 30, 2010 10:52 AM
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Easy, now. there is absolutely no reason to assume the people who put up the pictures are just as asleep at the wheel as the people who post articles that tell how they are going to keep us up to date with articles... next month. Wait a minute. Yes there is.

Come on son! I know you smarter than that! When we give you a card as a RI member, you a RI MEMBER! You can't come in this joint not knowing your facts and ish. Son, you ain't prove nothing yet son. Whatever RI ask you to do you do son. Pimpin dudes to your team who have pre-exisiting injuries is never kool son!

Lions running back Kevin Smith, who is recovering from surgery on his left knee, eased his way back into drills Wednesday as the team opened a three-day minicamp in Allen Park.

Smith looked full of vigor as the team worked out in shorts and helmets. As it turned out, Smith also was full of nerves.

"I only did about maybe six, seven plays," Smith said of the morning session. "My first play I dropped the ball, I was so nervous. The next play I caught the ball and tripped and fell and got up. So it's just a progression, but I'm feeling good."

A big reason for Smith's positive outlook has been the handiwork of Dr. James Andrews, the pre-eminent sports orthopedic surgeon who repaired Smith's torn anterior cruciate ligament Dec. 22. Smith said Andrews is "smooth as butter."

"As far as I know, he's like the Jay-Z of the (sports medicine) world," Smith said. "He's the best, from my experience. ... He did a good job with my surgery. He made my surgery scar look very nice, and I'm feeling good."

Smith said he expects to be fully healed for training camp, which begins July 31.

"We're inching him back in," coach Jim Schwartz said. "He took a few team drills. We'll want to see how he reacts to doing that and then increase it a little bit more."

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 30, 2010 10:55 AM
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I hear CP is doing a new character this year Big Fat Greedee. He'll get a signing bonus to play and then he'll demand to be traded. Big Fat Greedee will require CP to wear one of those fake Sumo outfits and periodically suck from an oxygen mask...

No worries Dik...We all..including myself, get caught up in it.....But as I see more people dying I personally know unexpectingly, then see comments in their articles on WaPo, makes me rethink it all....