Maybe Kait's jealous because she didn't get to put a bullet in Luke herself???!?!? ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244169#Comment_244169
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244169#Comment_244169Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:09:56 -0500curbI am well. My week has been pretty damn sexy, and my best mate is coming down this evening for a weekend of conversation and fine beers. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244170#Comment_244170
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244170#Comment_244170Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:10:14 -0500digitalscreamActually, I wanted Luke to carry on. Yeah, I'm weird like that.... ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244171#Comment_244171
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244171#Comment_244171Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:11:35 -0500curbFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244178#Comment_244178
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244178#Comment_244178Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:24:37 -0500Indigo RoseFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244187#Comment_244187
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244187#Comment_244187Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:50:47 -0500Peter Kelly
y'know, in a weird way if this was the last episode of freakangels, it would work as an ending.(Or is that just me?)

Had a mixed week. Got good news for the TV stations I work for which mean people (you know, tv viewers) may actually hear about us in the neat future but I also had to fire some one, that makes 4 people for 1 position in a 14 months....decided that it is not me that is the issue (had to consider that as a possibility) and have changed what the job is, in hopes the next person can do it.Looking forward to the weekend more the usual for some reason. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244188#Comment_244188
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244188#Comment_244188Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:53:56 -0500twitch_ramirezAll good here. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244189#Comment_244189
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244189#Comment_244189Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:59:31 -0500LBAFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244190#Comment_244190
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244190#Comment_244190Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:59:33 -0500Powmeant to say a couple of weeks ago but I dig the heck out of the dribbles of blood coming out of Luke's various holes, sometimes it takes an artist/colourist doing something exactly right to realise how crap everyone else's attempts look.

Luke is partially right, by the way... they trashed the world for nothing if they can't die. still, the world deserved it - how many centuries must pass so that humans understand that their differences can't be settled with chasing and violence? acts like these just lead to a future violent reaction from the oppressed. or their total anihilation.

i'm good, very good. My dad just bought me a PS3. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244249#Comment_244249
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244249#Comment_244249Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:03:12 -0500valeriawyverstone
In other news, I just used one of my classes to shamelessly plug FreakAngels... and my professor told everyone to check it out. This should be interesting... ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244251#Comment_244251
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244251#Comment_244251Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:06:37 -0500Micr0korgFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244253#Comment_244253
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244253#Comment_244253Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:12:40 -0500stsparkyFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244255#Comment_244255
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244255#Comment_244255Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:15:47 -0500Mickierat
Haha nice. I love page one, I want that as a giant size wall graphic somewhere in my apt. Helluva ballbusting cliffhanger though, it had me staring in disbelief for a second at the lil' 6 on the bottom of the page, willing it to not be the last page.

I'm doing okay, having the day off (CA furlough friday) is helpful in sleeping off your hangover. Got a show tomorrow in Woodland CA, selling all my action figures at a yard sale tomorrow to raise money for tour, so I'm hoping this weekend is fun and profitable. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244256#Comment_244256
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244256#Comment_244256Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:18:13 -0500Miranda's EyesGod damn, Luke's bit of ranty actually reached a valuable Big Question point. If the Freakangels didn't have to fuck over the world for self-protection, what are they obligated to do now? That didn't mean the comic needed to be renamed "Ranty Luke and Those Other Freakangels Tossers." So yes, I enjoyed KK breaking a chair over that dick with a mouth's head. Besides, she owed him a big one for trashing her KK-copter.

But the biggest bit of comic violence had to be Kait's shot to Jack's bollocks. Here he was with a noble and self-sacrificial monologue, and Kait provided a more eloquent response than talking Jack out of leaving. Besides, kicks to the bollocks will always be funny when set up right, and Warren and Paul did just that.

The past week amazingly zipped by quickly. Minor election night debauchery, volunteer job orientation, and wrestling with praising a nice historical lesbian romance took up my time. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244261#Comment_244261
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244261#Comment_244261Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:29:51 -0500hanjeanBut I still don't trust his beautiful rant completely. Luke sees and interprets things the way he wants them to be. (And he's a wanker.) So I wouldn't be so sure just yet... ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244263#Comment_244263
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244263#Comment_244263Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:44:20 -0500ebullientsoulI know Whitechapel is rubbing off on me because my first thought seeing that last panel was: Did she kick him in the ass or kick him in the taint? ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244264#Comment_244264Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:46:04 -0500PupatoFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244265#Comment_244265
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244265#Comment_244265Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:46:26 -0500darrylayoFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244267#Comment_244267
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244267#Comment_244267Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:55:39 -0500oldhatThanks to all those involved for making such an awesome comic. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244273#Comment_244273
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244273#Comment_244273Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:11:32 -0500dielloI was sure Kait was going to shoot Jack, having possibly heard what Luke was saying. Also, do you think Sirkka knows Luke is still alive? She's very in-tune with the goings on of the FAs. Any little twinge of power use and she picks up. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244275#Comment_244275
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244275#Comment_244275Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:12:02 -0500ArtenshiurHappy 100! That's ten times how many fingers I have. Crazy. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244281#Comment_244281
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244281#Comment_244281Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:45:27 -0500cheesecrowFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244283#Comment_244283
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244283#Comment_244283Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:51:40 -0500mishi2108I love this comic so much. The style is 100% win. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244307#Comment_244307
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244307#Comment_244307Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:54:37 -0500chris gFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244316#Comment_244316
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244316#Comment_244316Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:16:10 -0500DextraI'm doing ok. Have a whole day with not much to do. And now I have absolutely no idea what to do with myself. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244317#Comment_244317
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244317#Comment_244317Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:19:45 -0500Miranda's EyesBTW, is it only violent or physical death that provides a kickstart for the FA package? The French have a term, "the little death," that refers to orgasm. If Sirkka's orgies provides little kickstarts here and there to the package, then she would become incredibly powerful over time. Yes, the base part of me loves the idea of somebody fucking their way to higher consciousness even though it's not a new idea. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244323#Comment_244323
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244323#Comment_244323Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:44:25 -0500GraizurFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244327#Comment_244327
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244327#Comment_244327Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:48:01 -0500Angela HuntOh, this made my day. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244332#Comment_244332
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244332#Comment_244332Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:57:56 -0500Adam LucasFuck that bitch. Seriously.

Luke is the man.

And I don't know if I ever laughed harder than at the last panel of this chapter. I wait to scroll down so I don't accidently skip ahead and spoil it for myself. I was like..."What's she gonna do? Shoot him? Handcuff him? Kiss him?!?"

That might have been the best nut shot i've seen in comics.

Well done Uncle Warren. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244333#Comment_244333
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244333#Comment_244333Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:58:53 -0500bobsyuncleOh and of course Luke will take the negative view that it's all for nothing. Entirely missing the fact that the future angels have achieved some sort of progress/higher state and perhaps redeeming their past mistakes in whole or part...intriguing possibilities here. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244339#Comment_244339
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244339#Comment_244339Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:12:17 -0500razrangelAmong the many things Kait has on her mind regarding Jack: she' probably also annoyed that he took on her police enforcer role when she wasn't around. Maybe that will teach her the value of deputies and finding people she can trust.

Week rolled by with a tidal of wave of in-going info and thoughts. I have stuff to do for the rest of the day but I really wish I could take the time to sit somewhere quiet and process before commencing my own tidal wave of out-going ideas and action.

Yes, very much beginning to dislike KK. Being hotheaded and holding grudges doesn't seem like a good combination for one who wields potentially infinite power. It's certainly as dangerous as someone who is calculatingly evil, this much is for sure. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244361#Comment_244361
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244361#Comment_244361Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:50:44 -0500razrangelAlso he did need to just shut the hell up. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244368#Comment_244368
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244368#Comment_244368Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:17:31 -0500rickiep00h
Also he did need to just shut the hell up.Despite the fact that he's echoing things that 'Kady and Mark have already brought up, plus Karl and Kirk have discussed at length when they learned that Mark was still alive?

The fact that the Angels constantly refuse to listen to themselves goes a long way to showing how petulant and insular they still are, all of them, collectively and individually. They may be trying to do Big Things, but they're still kids, and they still act as such. I can't wait til they're all grown up and they can have a conversation without it devolving into someone getting bashed on the head with a chair or getting a building dropped on them. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244369#Comment_244369
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244369#Comment_244369Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:19:03 -0500tallguyPA63That said, what a perfect last panel for #100!Freak Angles lets me know its time to enjoy the weekend.... what a kick in the nuts. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244370#Comment_244370
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244370#Comment_244370Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:21:38 -0500DistractDeludea) What's Sirkka going to do now seeing as her role hasn't been massively significant to anyone other than Jack & a bunch of bed bound drones. b) Where the hell's Connor gone & is he alright?c) What's going to happen to Mark?d) Is this the part where Kait confesses to having always loved Jack and tries to shag his brains out now that the pretty one's out of the way?

Also, Congrats and Thanks for 100 issues! ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244409#Comment_244409
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244409#Comment_244409Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0500freakboxI was fully prepared to hate whatever Kait was going to do, then she did what she did, and I loved it!

maybe Jack won't be so self-centered now that his center has been damaged?

who wants to bet that Kait wears steel-toed boots? ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244477#Comment_244477
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244477#Comment_244477Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:58:58 -0500NextThursdayFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244489#Comment_244489
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244489#Comment_244489Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:43:51 -0500BerserkerWell, we all knew it'd be KK who interrupted Luke. Maybe didn't see her doing it with a chair, but that's KK for you, I guess? Methinks Luke's rant perhaps cut her a bit deeper than she's letting on with her explanation. She's more angry now about him being right than she is about her bike - though I've no doubt it was all about her bike up to that point.

And Kait ... well, we knew compassion wasn't her strong suit. I have a hard time believing this is the same little girl who was so upset about finding a dead bird that she tried to resurrect it with her package. I wonder what turned her from a sweetie like that into what she is now? Hmm ... I suppose finding out that your powers explode whatever you're trying to heal might eventually sour a disposition...

Something tell me though, that was a 'you're going nowhere' kick in the balls, and not a 'don't let the door hit your ass on the way out' kick in the balls. She's WAY too much of a control freak to let him walk away from this. And seeing as how any semblance of control she thought she had just went down in flames around her the past few episodes? I expect her to REALLY crank up the terror.

I'm still waiting for the reaction shot of Alice when she see's Luke walking and talking again. That's going to be fun.

And eventually, Mark IS going to wake up. Not that all those people he's turned into drones will care a whit if he is or isn't awake, I think. And the way the group is tearing itself apart right now - that may be what it takes to bring them all together again. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244490#Comment_244490
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244490#Comment_244490Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:47:09 -0500fod_xpAlso, love the Steampunk FreakAngels..."fortress"..."home"...?

To top it all off, Kait kicks Jack in the groin and nether regions, and it's seriously the only logical and appropriate response. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244499#Comment_244499
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244499#Comment_244499Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:06:05 -0500darrylayoFunctionally immortal or not, if someone tried to kill me, a clonk to the head would be a very generous turn in kind. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244532#Comment_244532
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244532#Comment_244532Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:38:02 -0500Cyman
I've never read more than one in a row before, and I just read 5. I've just been with it-- for... 100 episodes?? Wild. Congratulations.Seriously though, I can't wait for Kait to kill Jack so he can become SuperJack. He's always been the coolest anyway. And that horrible fucking KK... gotta love her. ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244549#Comment_244549
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244549#Comment_244549Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:24:49 -0500Mandrakk
Also congrats for number 100...Dang poor jack. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244564#Comment_244564Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:01:34 -0500NakedCelt
Just a random thought here(which might be completly off)but what if Luke was wrong?I mean HE is immortal and survived being shot in the guts and in the head,but what if he was the only one toKnow how to/have unlocked that fonction of the package?I mean Arkady is the only one knowing how to teleport and karl the only one knowing how to shift weather patterns,so what if Luke's self healing ability developed itself to that point as a result of being hit and shot very often?I mean kirk had to be hospitalised after being shot by Luke,while Luke was still able to walk and fight after that. Arkady has also seen the FutureFreaks; we were first introduced to them when she drowned. Mark came back to life too. No, I think we can be pretty sure about this. They cannot die. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244568#Comment_244568Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:27:47 -0500Fan
I think we can be pretty sure about this. They cannot die.

Especially if the FutureFreaks *are* the same freaks, but in/from 'the future': even if they can die, their all existing in the future shows that they won't die / haven't died. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244584#Comment_244584Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:49:22 -0500tapheadThat's assuming the FutureFreaks are "alive" in any meaningful sense of the word. The idea of the package being some sort of EM field has hefty ramifications. They can't "die" but they can certainly CHANGE. Seeing -- and communicating -- through time is a BIG THING. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244591#Comment_244591Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:14:09 -0500Fan
That's assuming the FutureFreaks are "alive" in any meaningful sense of the word

Telling Luke that's he still a wanker: they passed the Turing test, anyway. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244594#Comment_244594Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:35:21 -0500MandrakkFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244597#Comment_244597
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244597#Comment_244597Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:33:56 -0500Alastairalso yay ]]>
FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244643#Comment_244643
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244643#Comment_244643Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:53:17 -0500phorgan1FREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244683#Comment_244683
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244683#Comment_244683Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:59:39 -0500NakedCelt
@Nakedcelt:and yet in the first episodes(can't recall the exact number)Arkady said that she knew when Luke would die,and that she basically saved him by "overdosing"him,so that would mean they can die.It's Episode 11 page 6, and what she says is "Yesterday, you were going to control and assault Janine, and Sirkka was going to pick up on it. There was going to be a big group trial, and you were going to lose your temper, and everyone was going to get together and kill you."If that means "they can die", it means more specifically that Luke can die -- but even by your reasoning, Luke is the one FreakAngel we know is immortal. Jack has killed Luke, but Luke is alive. He has "died" in that he has undergone death, but he "has not died" in that he is not dead. I would think the same would apply had things gone as Arkady foresaw. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244684#Comment_244684Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:08:01 -0500warrenellis
was "dead." Briefly. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244705#Comment_244705Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:30:03 -0500johnjones

Luke was "dead." Briefly.

What about Arkady? Was she also "dead" during her overdose at 14? Was she "dead" when she saw the "Future Angels" just recently?

I ask because I'm wondering if it's not so much that the 'angels can't die, but that they can't kill. At least, they can't kill each other. Mark "died" when Karl and Kirk spiked his brain. Luke "died" when Jack shot him in the head. The act of murder is an intimate one, especially among people as closely tied as the 'angels. Perhaps there was a built-in safeguard in the package that the only thing deadly conflict would do within the 'angels is strengthen then. Not much point in killing your fellow 'angel when the only thing that'll happen his he/she will come back stronger than ever.

Maybe the reason Mark sent Alice was to test that. To see if a non-Freakangel could kill a Freakangel. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244712#Comment_244712Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:19:09 -0500MrSmite

Maybe the reason Mark sent Alice was to test that. To see if a non-Freakangel could kill a Freakangel.

Interesting concept. But I'm not sure how much stock I'd place in it, especially after it's been shown that Mark isn't exactly on the cutting edge of Freakangelology. I wonder if it has more to do with a 'psychic net' of their collected minds which would require all the Freakangels to be 'dead' at the same moment to stop them from coming back. Another question is if the psychic consciousness of an individual Freakangel transcends time/space so that they cannot die simply because they exist at other points in the continuum? More likely it could just be their future selves delivering a cross-temporal psychic defib, which leaves traces of more refined psychic energy/experiences.

Or not.

I'm still waiting for the reaction shot of Alice when she see's Luke walking and talking again. That's going to be fun.

Luke’s rape raised the question: is rape really rape if it can be reversed? We had the debate, and we know the answer: absolutely.

The murders of Mark and Luke raise a similar question: is homicide really homicide if the death can be reversed? It’s the same answer: absolutely it is still homicide, which means the perpetrators: Karl, Kirk, Jack and possibly Alice are absolutely murderers.

The question isn’t whether it’s homicide but whether the homicide is justifiable. WHITECHAPEL defends itself from external threats all the time. Is that murder or defense? Are Luke and Mark not enemies of the state, considering the added threat that the package gives them?

The real problem with justice as the FA defined it is the long-term plan. Namely, there isn’t one. Once they exiled Mark it was only going to be a matter of time before someone else got exiled, and then someone else, and then someone else. So the next obvious step is to just kill them, like Arkady warned Luke was about to happen, and have that be the deterrent. But what do you do when the guilty parties (Mark, Luke, Kirk, Karl, Jack and maybe Alice) almost outnumber the prosecutors? Luke proved lock-up doesn’t work. Mark showed exile doesn’t work. And now execution is no longer possible.

Are the twelve FA at the end of the story sitting next to each other as a way of keeping a permanent eye on each other? Seems more like hell than heaven!

As for what the FA actually are, I’ve got a couple more theories. It's about to get real nerdy, so forgive me in advance...

There's an esoteric school of thought that believes the first man, Adam, was a plant-based life-form, who cell-divided to create Eve, the first woman, and the snake in the Garden of Eden represents an evolution from plant-based life forms to animal-based. When Jack asks "Is an egg a fruit or a vegetable?" he's unknowingly touching on a forgotten aspect of evolutionary history. Luke the animal would die after being shot in the head, but his vegetable spirit would live on for a while until the cells are no longer nourished by blood. He's still bleeding, which means his spirit is still making the organs work, even after suffering injury that would kill an animal. But if you shoot a head of lettuce it will still grow just fine. If the FA are the next step of human evolution, they can draw energy from the spirit world to defy the physical laws, and alternate between the vegetable, mineral and animal forms at whim. Arkady can dissolve the material forms altogether and relocate them elsewhere, which means they can transform into pure spirit.

The FA are ancient gods.

Also: the number twelve corresponds to the zodiac, which is more than just your horoscope: the zodiac is the history of the twelve ages of mankind. Luke said twenty or thirty years in the future. The FREAKANGELS could potentially live a lot longer than that… ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244827#Comment_244827Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:20:00 -0500Michael WayneFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244831#Comment_244831
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244831#Comment_244831Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:32:57 -0500rickiep00h
at the beginning of Volume Four. (I just got my TPB today, so I noticed that bit right away.)

Of course, asking KK to remember his exact words six years on is probably a bit of a stretch, but just having the thing was a constant point of irritation for Luke, obviously. While I don't think it warrant shooting her out of the sky while she was riding it, KK knows Luke doesn't like it. Call it passive-aggressive, willfully doing something she knows bothers Luke.

Again, not saying it warrants shooting her down. Just saying she had to expect something one day. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244837#Comment_244837Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:11:02 -0500Michael Wayne"asking KK to remember his exact words six years on is probably a bit of a stretch"

...especially since she wasn't in the room at the time.

Shooting down KK wasn't just strategically stupid and arrogant, it was suicidal. KK was basically admitting to Connor that she was going to vote to keep Luke alive. He shot down the one person who might have cast the deciding vote to spare him! Luke is good at criticizing the group, but he's blind to his own mistakes.

As for KK... she's probably the most popular among the other FA. It was her voice that turned the tide of opinion in BOOK TWO, to convince them to expand their population. She can do what he can't: persuade and change opinions. And she does it without using fancy five-dollar words or even a trace of condescension. THAT'S why he hates her.

...and the bike is COOL. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244848#Comment_244848Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:11:33 -0500~lisbtw, a thought just came to me: Arkady warned Luke that she'd give him more overdose, if he tries his mind-dominating sexually-assaulting games again. not only did he try, he succeeded, too. did she forget?

My point still stands, for six years (probably more) they've been antagonizing each other, and it's now turned particularly violent. While this particular bit of foreshadowing might not work exactly as I intended it so for my thesis, at some point someone was going to come unglued, and it's not surprising it's the one with the squidgiest morals.

She can do what he can't: persuade and change opinions. ... THAT'S why he hates her.

Or it's because she's more willing to whack a bloke with a chair than to listen to what he actually has to say. Physically removing the opponent is not the same as winning an argument. It's a pity how many people think it is, though.

And she does it without using fancy five-dollar words--

What's wrong with using one's vocabulary?

--or even a trace of condescension.

Oh, right. But those are two different things, using a big vocabulary and being condescending.

...and the bike is COOL.

I'll gladly concede this point. But the bike's being cool is no more support for whacking Luke in the head with a chair than... anything. I think music is pretty cool, I'm not going to whack someone with a chair because they don't agree. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244854#Comment_244854Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:29:13 -0500warrenellis
I think music is pretty cool, I'm not going to whack someone with a chair because they don't agree.

Why do people think this is an argument for anything?

I like people, but I certainly wouldn't eat one, SO JEFFERY DAHMER DOESN'T EXIST. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244856#Comment_244856Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:42:36 -0500tallguyPA63that person shot me out of the sky, I fell across a roof, I fell from the roof, I was saved by a freaky bald chick that transported me in to the river, I got my head cracked open, and the jerk-off that did it is something of a zombie, and is on a rant that (even though interesting) has nothing to do with him sooting a gun at me?

Sorry man, a cigar is a cigar, she clocked the bastard for good merit and I loved it. I still don't want the salad. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244859#Comment_244859Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:57:06 -0500rickiep00hI was trying to point out that there's a lot of gray area in the morals in some/most of the the Angels' behavior, and I happen to think that KK is no more a hero than Luke is a villain.

Anyway, I'm going to shut up. Not trying to get in a fight with the Landlord here. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244874#Comment_244874Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:06:18 -0500monk.wrenchGo KK and Kaitlin? Gimme a break. There are so many ways of succumbing to weakness, and we always privilege the male sexual antagonist as being the worst of the worst. Sure, Luke may be a wanker, but we should put things in perspective.

The chair-wielding, nutcracking heroines of episode 100, for instance. How can we examine KK's invitation to all of us to enter the world of the Freakangels? She didn't exactly give the impression that she had or would take good emotional care of her partner in the first panels, did she? (and didn't resist the rampant traces of racism that the others happily used to mock her...) Was the "poor boy" consenting? Probably. But nature kinda swayed things in her favor there, didn't they?

It's so easy for us to simplify victimization and power but the dynamics are incredibly complex and problematic. How many times have we witnessed the withholding of basic needs or worse resulting in total misery for men and women alike in the world?--KK's aloof flaunting of her assets around Whitechapel or Kait's little playpen are just what they're supposed to be, just what myth has always been: allegorical ways for us to recognize in the extreme what we play out in the ordinary.

I love the bruising on Luke throughout the last two episodes. And the matte eyes are strangely disturbing across the board. Totally brilliant. I'm looking forward to the unfolding of their dimensions... if I can sit through it without making effigies of them to spank. (see? we're all susceptible...) but really. They all deserve it. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=244882#Comment_244882Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:12:28 -0500~lis
none of those who "brought justice" are good enough to be justified in their actions. the angels act like everyday people, they're not perfectly logical and all-forgiving do-gooders. they don't get what they deserve, they get what they can seize at the moment. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245128#Comment_245128Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:59:07 -0500phorgan1
@Warren, do you have a psychology degree? This is bizarre, subtle, and obvious, all at once. Most people don't get this. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245132#Comment_245132Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:24:27 -0500valeriawyverstonePersonally, I think that KK was right to deck him with the chair. If not because of her bike, then because he's arse in general, and he deserves to get a good smack now and again. And again. ...And again. ...And again. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245141#Comment_245141Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:55:23 -0500dorki
Also about Luke, he may be not just a wanker but at the start of being a serial sexual predator. In human society, it seems that these predators have almost no likelihood truly reforming. For the case of humans maybe brain research can someday help - but possibly the Luke 20-30 into the future has it all figured out. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245155#Comment_245155Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:04 -0500valeriawyverstone
do have a good reason for constantly getting on Luke's case. There are certain rules that the 'angels have laid out, and Luke isn't following them. These are the same rules that Mark was kicked out for breaking. Arkady says so herself in Episode 11. The 'angels aren't being hypocrites or intervening in "personal business" here, they're following the rules that the 12 of them had set down originally. If he can't follow the rules of the 'angels, then he has to accept the consequences; he can't expect them to treat him well after everything he's done. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245172#Comment_245172Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:37:14 -0500Fan
If he can't follow the rules of the 'angels, then he has to accept the consequences; he can't expect them to treat him well after everything he's done.

Punishing someone doesn't necessarily bring about in them the behaviour which you'd like (perhaps especially a family member); IMO they shouldn't expect him to treat them well after everything they've done. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245209#Comment_245209Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:49:55 -0500monk.wrenchMost of them, to their credit, are doing what they can to make the world they think they broke, better. Each has a legacy of great talent and potential that has been misunderstood at best and persecuted violently at worst their whole lives. We haven't gotten the particulars of their childhoods, but we've learned that all of them were abandoned and rejected by the non-Angel networks that are traditionally responsible for socialization.

It's a bloody miracle any of them managed to school their tendencies into technical, useful skills, or, like Mikki and to some extent Sirkka, have become healers. I think Arkady and Connor would qualify here, and Caz, KK and Karl certainly turn their acumen to the active benefit of society. Jack and Kirk are doing their part, in their anti-social way, while Mark and Luke have not quite grown beyond the Nietzschian superman complex. It's a lesser state, but interesting in its manifestations.

(apologies to those who have been in the forum from the beginning, for the points others have made that I'm making redundant. I haven't taken the time to go back and plumb for the existing wisdom...feel free to tell me to sod off.) ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245222#Comment_245222Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:59:47 -0500rickiep00hAnd I can't say I really like them. The only FA's I could really say I actually like are probably post-OD Arkady, Caz, Connor, and Miki. They all seem genuinely concerned with other people, whereas the others only seem concerned with themselves. All the rest of them have faults that make them either disagreeable or flat-out sociopaths. And while I relate to them for that, I certainly don't like them. I like them as characters, but not as people, if that makes sense. And I realize at this point I'm basically repeating monk's post, so I'll leave it at that.

As for specific "hypocrite" examples:

Kait - has that wonderful pit, in the name of law and order and justice. We're still not exactly sure what goes on in there, but there's a fair bit of blood and evidence that Kait doesn't really stay within the realm of humane treatment of suspects. And we don't really know how much we can trust what she has said about that sort of thing, as she's clearly capable of doing whatever is, in her mind, necessary.

Sirkka - mental surgery for victims (without their consent in at least one case, but again, not here to argue this point again) and building a defense army on sexual and emotional dominance, rather than Mark's pure mental rewiring.

KK - I don't think here's really that much hypocrisy here. She just has bad ways of dealing with people, in my opinion. But I suppose I can see a case for it in her moments from flashbacks.

Now, I don't necessarily agree that there's rampant hypocrisy going on, but I can certainly understand the case for it. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245233#Comment_245233Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:49:25 -0500Michael Wayne “Or it's because she's more willing to whack a bloke with a chair than to listen to what he actually has to say.”

Come on, man. They listened. They’ve BEEN listening. KK even fired a verbal shot off at him and he dismissed it, said he wasn't going to "come down" to it.

“What's wrong with using one's vocabulary?”

A lot, unfortunately. The fancier your language, the less people trust you and your message. It’s aggravating, I know. Our best minds shouldn’t HAVE to dumb the message down for the masses. Our politicians shouldn’t HAVE to talk slowly and repeat themselves three times for the voters to get it. But they do. A wise man lets people assume he is dumber than he is.

A foolish man, like Luke, tries to impress everyone with secret knowledge that, if he only kept it to himself, he’d probably win the fight! Karl wouldn’t have known how to fix the weather if Luke had kept his mouth shut to Kirk! ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245248#Comment_245248Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:39:12 -0500rickiep00h
Come on, man. They listened. They’ve BEEN listening.She obviously wasn't or she wouldn't have whacked him with a fucking chair. If she didn't want to listen to him she could have just as easily turned around and walked outside.

And with that, I'm ending my defense of the obviously indefensible Luke and the condemnation of the obviously in-the-right KK.

Can't wait til Friday. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245259#Comment_245259Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:52:26 -0500Mandrakk
@longtimelurker:Well using vocabulary without dumbing it down is NOT the sign of a foolish man(well it can be)but a sign of intelligence:if you always dumb things down,people won't make the effort to learn those things for themselves since it wouldn't be of use to them,and sadly that is what creates nowadays' mass ignorance and makes people so malleable,it starts with vocabulary but extends to all domains,really sad I think. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245283#Comment_245283Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:59:00 -0500~lis
wish i had found Whitechapel earlier so i'd have seen the whole Sirkka-memory-erasure debate - must have been educational. :}

@ mandrakk - you're right, complex vocabulary can be a sign of how intelligence... if it's used when explained to and undestood by the audience. right now it just shows that Luke loves to boast his power, be it verbal, freakangelish or whatever, which dubs him Knight of Egocentrism. i'd totally love it if he stays that way, too - he'd be the biggest test for the other freakangels' virtues, lol. also... i've always wondered what drives a selfcentered person forward so he may give some hints to it. :} ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245288#Comment_245288Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:11:02 -0500mister hex
i've always wondered what drives a selfcentered person forward

Not to be cheeky but ... themselves? ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245306#Comment_245306Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:13:02 -0500Michael WayneLuke is not a victim. He's one of the twelve most powerful people on the planet. Luke had plenty of second chances. He forced the issue. No one made him up the ante when the others were perfectly willing to leave him alone. He could have left Whitechapel on his own. He could have used his talents and skills to make his own family, as Sirkka has done, or explore the package like Arkady to make himself useful. Every society expects every citizen to pull their own weight. "But he's not a hypocrite!" his defenders say. I was willing to cut him a little slack before but don't make me throw up. Luke is the BIGGEST hypocrite. He brags about not killing Kirk right before he shoots down KK. He shoots at Jack's head during the escape. Would you people still defend him if Alice had been killed in the crossfire? Would you still defend him if Arkady had died for good?

I'm sorry you think it's "sad" because you think you aren't allowed to defend him. Jack just lost the love of his life and is getting a swift kick in the balls as we speak. Kirk will be in bed for days, even with the package. I don't see anybody crying about them. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245310#Comment_245310Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:30:54 -0500rickiep00h
Jack just lost the love of his life and is getting a swift kick in the balls as we speak. Kirk will be in bed for days, even with the package. I don't see anybody crying about them.Jack shot (with the intent to kill) somebody he's spent his entire life with, and willfully kept weaponry in his girlfriend's house despite her explicit rules not to; Kirk was about to shoot (with the intent to kill) an unconscious prisoner in restraints without a proper hearing, or at least discussion (which Kait was fully in favor of). I see no reason for crying for them. Plus this is Whitechapel. No crying in Whitechapel.

Seriously, all of these people are fucked up in their own ways. To pretend that any of them are above reproach (excepting again Caz, Connor, and Miki) is irresponsible.

Really, actually shutting up now.

(edited for spelling stupidity) ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245315#Comment_245315Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:45:53 -0500taphead
I like them as characters, but not as people, if that makes sense.

THIS. This should make sense to everyone.

Would you people still defend him if Alice had been killed in the crossfire?

That was not what happened, so not really the point.

I don't see anybody crying about them.

There's no crying in Whitechapel.

I think it's getting pretty clear the FA are all pretty much flawed. Luke is a rapist, Mark is a megalomaniac, Jack is a murderer, Kirk and Karl don't exactly have all their nazis in th bunker, Arkady is insane, Sirkka is avoidant, Kait's a torturer, KK sleeps with boys from Lambeth Road... Miki and Caz are the only ones who haven't been knocked a few pegs down yet, but I'll be surprised if they don't have skeletons in their closets as well. High horses should be in short supply.

But whatever happened to Connor? That'll be interesting.

I've forgotten to mention this before, but Zapata's Balls, Paul. The art that went with Luke's Rant (In E Minor) was absolutely sublime. A wonderful way of showing our Humble Narrator is spending waaaaay too much time inside his own skull. Maybe the hole will air out the place a little.

ETA: Or, you know, what @rickiep00h said before me much more concisely. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245323#Comment_245323Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:09:13 -0500~lis
Not to be cheeky but ... themselves? seems obvious, doesn't it? but... would you ever get any satisfaction if all you do is indulge the desire to indulge yourself? what's the point? or, if you become the best in your own eyes and that was your only goal (the ultimate egocentric), what happens next?a closed system without outer regulators always deforms at some point.

@rickiep00h: Jack and Sirkka didn't accept each others' principles. people often break rules they don't agree with. Kirk was about to shoot Luke. he didn't. but he and Karl did drive a mind-spike into Mark's head, when the group had decided to exile him. note that he's not saying he didn't.

Luke is not a victim.

even if he has been some time ago, he's just a wanker now, lol. you've got a point. ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245325#Comment_245325Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:14:07 -0500Michael WayneI'm not going to change anyone's mind about Luke. Nor would I want to. But I WILL CHALLENGE IT.

I'm not going to change anyone's mind about Luke. Nor would I want to. But I WILL CHALLENGE IT.Agreed. I suppose I'll come back if you really want. :-)

Jack and Sirkka didn't accept each others' principles. people often break rules they don't agree with.

My point was that Jack knew what he was getting into. It's not like he's the blameless victim and Sirkka's just walking away from him, which is what seemed to be implied.

Kirk was about to shoot Luke. he didn't.

Again, intent to kill. Even without a shot being fired it's simple to prove he intended to... and that Jack willingly aided him by providing the weapon.

The thing that made most of the past few weeks is the (relative) urgency in which everything happened. Luke found raping a girl, Mark showing up, Luke escaping, the storm, all of it happening quite quickly, and not allowing for a proper discussion. So I'll agree with the above: none of this underlying stuff has been addressed because of things getting in the way. But now that stuff does indeed need to be addressed, and Luke was--in his long-winded, self-righteous way--attempting to address them up until the point he got brained by a chair. Now that nobody is in immediate danger from anything but personal, local retribution/vengeance, maybe they'll start to address these things.

And I hope they get a second shot at HIM. It's almost like a sports match! Place your bets! ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245338#Comment_245338Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:11:15 -0500rickiep00h
"I also hope Luke will get a shot at Jack and Alice."

And I hope they get a second shot at HIM. It's almost like a sports match! Place your bets!An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, and all that other pacifist crap. (Though it's exactly my point...) ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245349#Comment_245349Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:21:21 -0500~lis

My point was that Jack knew what he was getting into.

yep, and didn't care enough for Sirkka not to cross the border (although he probably doesn't like hurting her). both Jack and Sirkka are impulsive and known to quarrel quite a lot. i don't think he did the wrong thing by leaving her, he did the wrong thing by waiting for so long to leave her. sex must be really awesome with her, heh.

Again, intent to kill.

ever had the urge to hit someone and then reconsidered? would it be ok if you got punished for your intention? :} ]]>
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http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245368#Comment_245368Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:26:33 -0500MrMonkFREAKANGELS Episode 0100http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245387#Comment_245387
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8397&Focus=245387#Comment_245387Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:00:58 -0500rickiep00h
would it be ok if you got punished for your intention?People get put in jail for intending to kill--but not actually killing--every day. Motive is a primary component in guilty verdicts in murder trials... sometimes the only component, depending on the case, judge, and jury. We're hardly in thought police land on this one, I think. ]]>