The shovel to the head by Gyp and then Slater being sent to Nucky in a crate.

Capone and Eli will step up for Nucky. And someone from Rothstein's crew is gonna pay for tipping off Masseria.

I knew the moment Owen was sent to take care of Masseria it was going to end bad. Shame, Owen was a GREAT character.

Yeah, it was obvious as soon as he said he could handle it with a small crew in the meeting with Nucky. I wish they would have showed that scene of him getting killed, but they elected to go with the shock and awe of Mrs. Nucky seeing the crate opened.

Be interesting to see if Nucky goes after Luciano, Rothstein, the short bald guy ... or all of em. Not knowing what really happened in history and how close they wanna stick to that.

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Govbarney wrote:So.... Instead of placing a bomb in a crowded restaurant and killing dozens of innocent civilians, all Gyp really had to do was mail Nucky a large unmarked package at 4'oclock in the morning.

Or was Gyp's intentions to take out Nucky, Rothstein, Luciano, etc?

Previews seem to show Chalky aligning with someone, although they make it vague as to who. Obviously Nucky will come out of this, so you wonder whether it's Chalky or Capone that gets him there. Chalky and Capone are two of my top 3 characters on this show, so either way it should be fun.

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Govbarney wrote:So.... Instead of placing a bomb in a crowded restaurant and killing dozens of innocent civilians, all Gyp really had to do was mail Nucky a large unmarked package at 4'oclock in the morning.

Or was Gyp's intentions to take out Nucky, Rothstein, Luciano, etc?

Previews seem to show Chalky aligning with someone, although they make it vague as to who. Obviously Nucky will come out of this, so you wonder whether it's Chalky or Capone that gets him there. Chalky and Capone are two of my top 3 characters on this show, so either way it should be fun.

Capone and the real Nucky were friends, so I see Capone coming in and taking Rosetti out himself. Capone is the only one who could take on Masseria and get away with it.

As for Rothstein, I don't want to spoil anything for those who don't know the history since he's a little less well known than most of the other gangsters. Obviously we all know Luciano isn't going anywhere until the Feds deport him much later in his life.

justmebd wrote:As for Rothstein, I don't want to spoil anything for those who don't know the history since he's a little less well known than most of the other gangsters. Obviously we all know Luciano isn't going anywhere until the Feds deport him much later in his life.

I know that the time frame we are working with would open it up for them to include Rothstein's death, but I wonder how much liberty they will take with the actual events. The reason I bring this up is because he seemed to be interested in the heroin plans of Lansky/Luciano, but wanted them to wait. Now that they've moved on with Masseria, I wonder if the writers of the show will align Rothstein with Nucky to close out this season? That's just a wild guess, I don't know.

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Thinking Harrow is going to die in the finale. Once the whore is gone, his story line loses substance. This series already has enough terrible female roles bringing it down without having to add another. He's gonna take down the whorehouse, and a chunk of Gyp's men, and then he goes down with it. Great character, but not much future. They're gonna take him out while his stock is high.

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Bayou Tribe wrote:Thinking Harrow is going to die in the finale. Once the whore is gone, his story line loses substance. This series already has enough terrible female roles bringing it down without having to add another. He's gonna take down the whorehouse, and a chunk of Gyp's men, and then he goes down with it. Great character, but not much future. They're gonna take him out while his stock is high.

I wonder about harow - is he going down in a suicide mission or is he going to kill for the puirpose of taking the kid and the lady and getting outta Dodge?

Bayou Tribe wrote:Thinking Harrow is going to die in the finale. Once the whore is gone, his story line loses substance. This series already has enough terrible female roles bringing it down without having to add another. He's gonna take down the whorehouse, and a chunk of Gyp's men, and then he goes down with it. Great character, but not much future. They're gonna take him out while his stock is high.

I wonder about harow - is he going down in a suicide mission or is he going to kill for the puirpose of taking the kid and the lady and getting outta Dodge?

I think his intent will be to get outta Dodge with the girl and the kid but that he ends up getting taken out. While I think they're gonna cliffhanger this war for next season, they'll definitely kill off at least one main character next week, and he seems to be a likely candidate.

And BTW, nice call on Gyp JB.

Can't wait for Capone to be a more regular character. This show has gone from Good to Great to I Can't Effing Wait For 9 PM On Sundays.

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I will be really disappointing if they end the show in 1929, so much good gangster shit happens in the early 30s , like the rise of Albert Anastasia, and Luciano's power grab and the killing of Joe Masseria.

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Best season so far, and I loved the season finale. They really set up some nice future plot lines and wrapped up the AC war pretty well. I do wish they had expanded on the Dion O'Bannion character more, they pretty much introduced him, linked him Van Alden, and then bailed on him. But season 4 should be heavy on the Chicago story line, the North/South side wars and the transition of power from Torrio to Capone.

I hope they do something good with Van Alden this season. Last year it seemed like they didn't know what to use him for but kept his character going just enough to give Michael Shannon to do. Because Michael Shannon is awesome.

I hope he gets sucked in deeper to Capone's crew...and then Nucky takes a trip to Chicago.

motherscratcher wrote:I hope they do something good with Van Alden this season. Last year it seemed like they didn't know what to use him for but kept his character going just enough to give Michael Shannon to do. Because Michael Shannon is awesome.

I hope he gets sucked in deeper to Capone's crew...and then Nucky takes a trip to Chicago.

motherscratcher wrote:I hope they do something good with Van Alden this season. Last year it seemed like they didn't know what to use him for but kept his character going just enough to give Michael Shannon to do. Because Michael Shannon is awesome.

I hope he gets sucked in deeper to Capone's crew...and then Nucky takes a trip to Chicago.

Michael Shannon has a big, interesting face. He plays a man devoid of humor. When he smiles, it looks painful. Dude can act.

I think you're definitely going to see more Capone, I get the feeling they're gonna speed up the timeline on the Chicago beer wars. Lots of shootings/beatings/stabbings.

I'm not sure Harrow can top his Angel of Death act to end last season. Character wise, how he fits into the plot, i'm not sure how much more mileage you can get out of him. I hate seeing a good character getting shoehorned into the story.

I already like Dr. Narcisse after one episode. Dude is cold and calculating. I'm not sure if they're setting him up as the main antagonist or not. Van Alden has gone from a domineering figure with the Prohibition Agency, to a meek guy trying to eek out a living working for people he fears.

I was surprised to see them bring in J. Edgar Hoover. I really have no idea where they're going with Harrow. I have no interest in seeing him live a farm life.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I already like Dr. Narcisse after one episode. Dude is cold and calculating. I'm not sure if they're setting him up as the main antagonist or not. Van Alden has gone from a domineering figure with the Prohibition Agency, to a meek guy trying to eek out a living working for people he fears.

I was surprised to see them bring in J. Edgar Hoover. I really have no idea where they're going with Harrow. I have no interest in seeing him live a farm life.

Harrow was scarred emotionally by last year's shootout, this is his attempt to "move on."

It won't work as we already are starting to see. He'll be back in Jersey soon, more ruthless than ever.