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As we know, Naruto has a very wide array of jutsu and transformative abilities in his arsenal. Most revolve around using the rasengan and Nine-Tails Chakra. His destructive capabilities are pretty damn colossal as his Tailed Beast Bomb has shown to be capable of blowing away a large part of a forest.

Now the main moves in Obito's arsenal are Kamui, basic 3 tomoe sharingan, high level fire style ninjutsu, Wood style ninjutsu, and summoning the Gedou Mazou Statue through the use of the Rinnegan (for the sake of this fight, I am giving Obito the Mazou statue prior to the 10 tails' revival, as it was during its brief, yet EPIC fight with my man Chiji and his pops, Choza. And since he tecnicallyneeded Kabuto to use the 6 paths of pain, they are excluded from the equasion).

LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!!!

Knowing Obito, and how he seems to only fight himself as a last resort (no proof needed here. I mean he only threw a punch when he was completely cornered). So he will most likely start by summoning the Mazou Statue to attack Naruto. Naruto in his base form and Sage mode are no match for the Mazou, nor can they hit Obito while using Kamui. Naruto will most likely waste some chakra using pointless rasengans and a ton of shadow clones to no prevail. Next up. . . SAGE MODE!!! I'm going to go out on a limb and say Nasuto gets a brain and summons Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamahiro to assist him in fighting the Mazou Statue.

Needless to say, Sage mode isn't going to last very long against Obito. Not to mention unlike the current seemingly infinite Tailed beast mode (Bijuu mode), Sage mode has a limit and needs prep time. Since the boss toads are gone and this is a 1vs1 fight, Naruto ain't gettin' another shot at Sage mode . And with the feats seen by the Mazou Statue, the boss toads arn't winning.

TIME TO BREAK OUT KURAMA!!!!!

It's a bit hard to put this together exactly, but it seemed to take the combined efforts of Killer be (full host transformation), Kakashi, Guy, AND Naruto in his initial 9 tails chakra mode to take on the Mazou statue. It'll be quite taxing on Naruto's chakra reservs taking on the Mazou alone, but he will pull out a win in the end, but will most likely either drain himself to near empty, or use his Tailed Beast Mode, which will put a QUICK end to the Mazou.

Now this is where it gets tricky. Obito's attacks, both fire and wood based will be tanked, and his only REAL offensive moves would be using the Chakra chains and giant ninja tools sent from Kamuiverse. Naruto has been seen to do a good job dodging and countering this, but he isn't invincable. On the other hand, Obito can predict nearly all of Naruto's moves using his sharingan and use Kamui for the large scale attacks that he can't dodge.

This is where the fight will get kinda boring. . . Naruto, even with all of his power, can't touch casper the ghost, and will be using big move after big move like he usually does, draining all his stamina and wasting precious secconds of his 5 minute (or so it's supposed to be) OP transformation. Once Full Tailed beast mode runs out, it's Naruto's a$$! Sage mode takes too long to prep, Initial Nine tails chakra mode is somewhat useless as he will only be farther draining his stamina against casper the ghost, and Obito would very easily rape the dogg sh*t out of base Naruto. And god forbid he try to re-summon the Mazou statue after a few seconds of rest!

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/595/11
And with these pages you can see that Obito can keep up and fight on par with Might Guy, the TAIJUTSU KING and the NOBLE BLUE BEAST OF THE VILLIAGE HIDDEN IN THE LEAVES!!! Naruto has no hope of matching his taijutsu skills, and any rasengan or mini tailed beast bomb trown at him will either dodged or Kamuified.

In the end, it will take Naruto using Bijuu mode to combat Obito (or mainly the Mazou Statue). Once the Mazou Statue is out of the picture, it basically becomes a pissing contest of who has more stamina, and it seems to me that Obito wins in that category. Unless Naruto can either Speed blitz him while he's trying to absorb something (if done while releasing, he'll just run into an attack at point blank), He's not hitting Obito. And once Bijuu mode is exhausted and Kurama's chakra is cut off, Naruto is :flaw:COWABUNGA F**KED TO HELL!!!!!:flaw:

This is my opinion on why Obito beats Naruto. Feel free to debate me on this if you wish. And I appologise for the length.

Re: Who'se stronger? Obito or Naruto?

What are you taking about?!!!!? It was Naruto who saved Kakashi and Gui, It was Naruto who shattered Obito's Mask and it was Madara who had to come to Obito's rescue otherwise it be over.

Actually my friend, it was naruto's shadow clone whom Kakashi sent to the Kamuiverse to meet Obito when he went casper the ghost to dodge naruto's Tailed Beast Bomb. If Kakashi wasn't there, Naruto wouldn't stand a chance against Obito. My previous post should explain that well enough. And I'm open for a debate if you think you can take me!