Pacquiao-Marquez 2: Who really won?

The bell rang for the 12th time and Manny Pacquiao and Juan Marquez went exchanging blows like it was still in round 1. The fight was dead even and with Marquez connecting with a right hand to the body and Pacquiao with a left hook to the head fans were cheering endlessly chanting there names back and forth. Until the bell sounded for the last time and both warriors raised their fist in the air declaring victory.

The fight was a classic and either way both fighters are declared winner. Manny Pacquiao has set some high standards on all his fights that being declared a split decision or without a knockout victory people get frustrated and criticized his performance. Pacquiao has made a vast improvement from what I’ve seen last Saturday. The head movement and footspeed was always there but I was amazed on his controlled aggression and his body movement. If it was an ordinary fighter Manny had already floored him in the first round. But Marquez was such a beauty watching his boxing clinic hitting Manny and neutralizing his left hand with good right jabs and body shots. The fight could go either way but a knock down in the 3rd round proved to be the focal point in the judges decision.

Although Marquez lost his belt but his legacy is still intact proving his worth against Eric Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera. He is the only fighter who could withstand the Filipino’s speed and power and although it was a close decision but I scored the fight 114-113 for Manny. Statistically it was Marquez who landed the most hits on Pacquiao but Manny has landed the more meaningful shots in the fight.

I would understand Marquez emotions and with his brother losing to a decision against Israel Vasquez last month. It’s a bit frustrating to loose a fight with so much pride and with a lot of things involved. With two belts, a chance of redemption and with the Mexican nation at his back it was just too much to handle.

I think Marquez did what it took to win the fight but I guess Manny also done his homework. Fans are calling for Pacquiao-Marquez 3 with so many controversies involved and to finish the unfinished business once and for all.

So who really won the fight between the two top pound for pound fighters in the world today? It’s us the fans….Kudos to top rank and golden boy for making this fight a reality.

And with still so much hype going on I can already smell a trilogy coming…

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30 Responses to Pacquiao-Marquez 2: Who really won?

i guess its better if they will fight later this year… Marquez is getting older and eventhough he has still some gas on his tank and with lesser fights compared to Barrera and Marquez he can surely mixed it up again with Manny. But this time it would be on the 135lb division. We dont want to wait another 4 years before they decide to fight again…i hope not…

i’m a big pacquiao fan but i saw marquez ahead by 3 rounds at the final bell. inspite of the knockdown, marquez won most of the remaining rounds. he totally dominated pac at the 8th and schooled him at 2, 5, 6, 7, and 12. round 1 was close but marquez landed the hardest shot before the closing so i gave it to him. round 9 was also close but i gave it to marquez because of his effective counterpunching. i gave round 11 to pacquiao because he was the agressor but still its a very close fight, most observers gave it to marquez though. i understand where claims that pacquiao received a gift decision are coming from. one thing for sure, pacman’s win was not convincing. the marquez saga remains unfinished business. there should be a third fight either at 130 or at 135 before pacquiao looks for other opponents. pacquiao wag mong takbuhan si marquez, lumaban ka uli hehehe!
but i think the trilogy should be made early next year, 2009. making two of the same fights immediately by experience do not generate much revenue for the promoter. Pavlik vs. taylor II is one example.

@fouledout- i scored it a split decision. I got 6-6 even but awarded the split decision to Pacman having a 10-8 round in the third
@Kwentongwalangkwenta – good insights bro.. but i also think Pavlik and Taylor are not the same level with Pacquiao and Marquez since Pavlik clearly won the first fight. Pacquiao-Marquez fights were all too critical and too hard to tell who really won. A fight in the 135lb division would favor Pacquiao since he doesnt have to drain himself just to fit his body in the 130lb division. Marquez is a power puncher with good counter punching skills but his power diminished after he went from 126lbs to 130 lbs. It was evident in almost all his crucial fights ( Barrera by decision and Juares by decision). 135 lbs would clearly favors Pacman. But then again the contrast of styles makes them both exciting and unpredictable. We all love to see them fight again… hopefully late this year or early next year… fingers cross….

@hingedman, kwentongwalangkwenta
i hope we see a rematch. though pacquaio won now, i think marquez deserves a rematch. they are evenly matched and it would be nice to really see who’s the better boxer. i’m a filipino, but i have no problem if manny loses to a better fighter.

For me, no need for a rubber match.
Pacquiao is the only reason why those two fights went exciting!
Manny floored Marquez 4 and 1/2 times…
Marquez seemed very happy with his counter punching that bored us to death and couldn’t put Manny’s ass down even just for once…
Yeah, I would say JMM’s style bores me like what he did in his last fight with MAB.
While Manny, whoever his opponent is, he always makes a great show…
This is not to disparage these great Mexicans…I have a lot of respect to them.
I am just after the reality that Manny puts “ADOBO” on the table!
P.S. Manny should move on…
He wants to maximize his body @ lightweight…
So be it!
Thanks for your time…

@ bugoy
if manny wants to move up to lightweight. then let them fight in that division. sorry man, but the win was not that convincing. except for the knockdown, manny and marquez are pretty much tied. A third and final match will decide who’s the better boxer.

before the rematch, i really thought pacquaio would just run through marquez like he did in the third fight against morales. in that fight, countering pacquiao would be futile because he was just landing punch after punch without regard to what his opponent would do. his improved style even made him more dangerous because while he storms through morales, he was at the same time difficult to hit and in many occasions, able to land counterpunches.
pacquiao was just too tentative against marquez and was confident he could win a boxing match against him. when the fourth round began and marquez was clearly still hurt and out of rythm, the pacquiao flurries that i was expecting was simply not there. me thinks that was being too disciplined in a wrong situation. pacquiao should not lose his old self by trying so much to be a boxer. now that he has improved his technical skills, i think that should give him more confidence to walk through his opponents knowing he could go back to boxing anytime the situation calls for it.

to bugoy– in contrast to what you said, i think it was marquez who was pressing the action against barrera when they fought. while marquez may have been knockdowned many times, pacquiao never dominated him. in fact marquez still has a good claim to being the real winner in both matches.
i think pacquiao can do better than his performance last week. that’s why there should be a rematch so pacquiao can finally carry the name “mexecutioner” without any argument on the contrary.

indeed its close fights, and its blade decision who really won.but remember the power of pacman still there,if JMM really want to dominated Pacman he should KO Pacman in any round to prove to the world that he is the best fighter..sorry to say Pacman floored JMM 4 times and no question about it…

I love this “most people thought Marquez won” claim. Now, I have no idea whether it’s true, but I think it started with someone who posted an entry on Wikipedia consisting of scores of boxers/media–but with a catch: This entry contained only those scores in favor of Marquez. I could cite nearly 30 in Pacquiao’s favor (including the matchmaker at GBP–Marquez’s promoter), but some people are only interested in facts that support their argument. Same goes for CompuBox stats: True, Marquez landed more in total during the fight, but fights are scored round by round on a ten point must system. Of course, when you look at it round by round (CompuBox numbers), Pacquiao would have the edge. By the way, I don’t believe that CompuBox should be the determining factor in how you score a round or a fight, but supporters of Marquez have used it to justify the “Marquez won”/”Marquez was robbed” assertion.

Screw Marquez and his fans. That pee drinking homo sure knows how to cry like a bitch. Pac knocked his ass down 5 times legitimately and had him on queer street a few other occasions, which would leave a better impression in a close fight with most judges. Yet Marquez doesn’t have the decency to acknowledge that’s what cost him both fights. Instead he just bitches and bitches about how he was robbed. I hope they do get a third fight and Pac destroys him badly to shut him up for good.

Finally, all your wishes come true. The upcoming fight will be on the 12th November, 2011 and don’t forget to mark your calendar of this important event. This is a history in the making and the last laugh of Pacman as what he say in the commercial…”NOW YOU KNOW”….

[…] The 2nd fight (2008) was like a de ja vu of the first bout. Manny came out smoing and storming in the early rounds and had Marquez kiss the canvass during the 3rd round and yet lost his fire in the latter rounds. He still managed to won though by a controversial split decision. […]

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