Nope, it appears they reduced the luggage volume to less than the amount for a ST. And reduced the gas tank size (supposedly better mileage). And played some tricks with the engine to reduce weight. And came up with this replacement thingy for the front forks. And added a power windshield and made it look more like a ST. Saves them (in their mind) from having to develop two product lines (GW and ST) and let's them compete with the new BMW 1600 line.

Uncle Phil wrote:Nope, it appears they reduced the luggage volume to less than the amount for a ST. And reduced the gas tank size (supposedly better mileage). And played some tricks with the engine to reduce weight. And came up with this replacement thingy for the front forks. And added a power windshield and made it look more like a ST. Saves them (in their mind) from having to develop two product lines (GW and ST) and let's them compete with the new BMW 1600 line.

The tank size is a minus but the DCT is a plus though not sure how long it will stay on Honda Australia's model line up. An auto bike (scooters excepted) is not a big seller out here; after a year the VFR1200 DCT was no longer available due to poor sales.

Overall I quite like the bike though I much prefer a more universal system than the Apple one that's on there.