Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.

wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

SlothB77:wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Rincewind53:That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

And juries are automatically inclined to grant more credibility to the officer and less to the defendant, so even if it's just a straight he-said, she-said with no other corroborating evidence, that will frequently be enough to get a conviction, even though it shouldn't be.

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.

hardinparamedic:What I want to know is did he have his lights and sirens on?

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.

hardinparamedic:What I want to know is did he have his lights and sirens on?

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.

A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

Rincewind53:SlothB77: wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight. Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason. Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"? Guess who is at fault? Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc? Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.

hardinparamedic:Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.

There's no evidence whatsoever he was driving. Given it's pretty clear that most everything else the cop said was false, there's really no reason even for a citation. The farther I could stretch, and I have no idea what the law is there, is that he was parked on the left side of the street on a one way rode, instead of the right side. I have heard that's technically illegal in some places, though I've never actually seen a law on it, so that may be BS. Either way, lying cop, pretty obvious.

Fissile:Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight. Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason. Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"? Guess who is at fault? Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc? Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.

To be fair, most people, not just most cops, will lie if they have a reason to.

FitzShivering:Fissile: Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight. Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason. Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"? Guess who is at fault? Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc? Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.

To be fair, most people, not just most cops, will lie if they have a reason to.

Granted, cops usually have a more pressing reason to do so.

Non-cop lies don't usually won't cost me tens of thousands, or land me in prison for 25 years.

A cop rear ended one of our deivery drivers at a red light in Boston. He then claimed the driver had put his truck in reverse and backed into him, and cited him.I say it on just about every law enforcement thread. Aside from a very few, most cops are just complete dirtbags. It's hard to have even the slightest ounce of respect for them. It's too bad, I know alot of people who tell their kids at a young age not to trust the police. When I was a kid, thats who I was told to look for or call in an emergency.

I predict, now, that police unions will pressure the state (or the city) for legislation mandating that any security cameras in the city be retrofitted with devices that shut them down when a police radio is in range.

Fissile:FitzShivering: Fissile: Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight. Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason. Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"? Guess who is at fault? Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc? Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.

To be fair, most people, not just most cops, will lie if they have a reason to.

Granted, cops usually have a more pressing reason to do so.

Non-cop lies don't usually won't cost me tens of thousands, or land me in prison for 25 years.

I don't disagree with you. Well, maybe on the tens of thousands. I've known plenty of executives to cost people tens of thousands by lying to them, because the reason was they wanted more money themselves. But, yeah, you don't assume (nowadays) they're there to protect you.

hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.

The SUV is parked for the whole event. Of course, some states consider you 'operating' a motor vehicle if the keys are in the ignition and you're in the drivers seat. The victim says he was in the passenger seat but the video shows him getting out on the drivers side. He said he slid over. There is usally a console between the drivers and passengers seat in a Ford Expedition. Unless the passenger door is jammed, I don't see a large guy like him 'sliding over'

Harry Freakstorm:hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.

The SUV is parked for the whole event. Of course, some states consider you 'operating' a motor vehicle if the keys are in the ignition and you're in the drivers seat. The victim says he was in the passenger seat but the video shows him getting out on the drivers side. He said he slid over. There is usally a console between the drivers and passengers seat in a Ford Expedition. Unless the passenger door is jammed, I don't see a large guy like him 'sliding over'

Chances are he was indeed in the driver's side the whole time and may even have driven the vehicle but they don't have any evidence of it. It was parked at the time. They do have evidence of the cop's misdeeds though.

Cop needs some unpaid vacation time and the city needs to fix the guy's vehicle.

SlothB77:Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.

wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

What do you mean, "would have gotten away with it"? He kidnapped somebody and committed perjury, and did get away with it.

Dimensio:I predict, now, that police unions will pressure the state (or the city) for legislation mandating that any security cameras in the city be retrofitted with devices that shut them down when a police radio is in range.

Nah, that would keep them from using the cameras for their own benefit. Camera registration would probably serve their goals better. This way when they're accused of doing something wrong, the camera can either exonerate them or conveniently malfunction.

From the video clip on the site, this guy was in the drivers seat and didn't "slide over". The end of the video show the guy leaving the door open and the cop at the rear. Hard to tell if he walked towards the front more.

Cop is still a dick, but if you don't have a license stay the fark out of the drivers seat in any vehicle.

SlothB77:Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.

wow. once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it. can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Nothing I read in the article suggests the cop did not get away with it- just because a lawsuit was filed, and there is a video, in no way implies the cop will be found guilty of anything. All that happened due to the video is the case against Jackson was dropped after six months. The cop has not suffered one bit, so I would have to vote for 'the cop got away with it'...

jscart:From the video clip on the site, this guy was in the drivers seat and didn't "slide over". The end of the video show the guy leaving the door open and the cop at the rear. Hard to tell if he walked towards the front more.

Cop is still a dick, but if you don't have a license stay the fark out of the drivers seat in any vehicle.

Do you have a different video, are you on acid, or are you a police officer?

jscart:From the video clip on the site, this guy was in the drivers seat and didn't "slide over". The end of the video show the guy leaving the door open and the cop at the rear. Hard to tell if he walked towards the front more.

Cop is still a dick, but if you don't have a license stay the fark out of the drivers seat in any vehicle.

Watching the video another time, the cop first starts walking towards the passenger side of the vehicle... like he initially believed the guy in there was in the passenger seat... until he saw the guy get out of the driver's side.

When the guy gets out of the car he most definitely closed the door, too. Even when he opens it from the outside, as the vid is ending you can tell he's about to close it again.