euroboundbaggie

Cyril

May 26, 2014 9:08 am

eurobog, I shall do mine ON LINE sonny, as you could if you'd get a computer. I'll make you an offer you can't refuse. FOR ONE MATCH ONLY, I'll exchange seats with you. Mine, 1/2 way line near as dammit, 2nd tier East Stand, perfect view all round. Yours.... and I do NOT want one of those seats in the Moulinex facing away from the pitch, or those ones that fall over. Is it a deal ?

Cyril

Cyril

May 26, 2014 7:17 pm

Bully, I finally managed to renew my season ticket ! When you have confirmed who you are, (that takes for ever), you get 5 minutes to do the money and personal details, That would be fine IF the website worked. You click on something, then you wait and wait, and it appears. You fill it in. You wait and wait and it appears.

My first effort 'Timed Out' so I had to do the lot again and this time I managed it with SECONDS to spare.

It was like swimming in GLUE ! I maintain my computers in fast condition, so it was either incompatibility with AOL or their website is SSHugar and Spice ! I shall report it to them.

The View From Baggy Bottom

May 26, 2014 8:49 am

Paul Clement is an interesting contender, but I think our recent experience with SC, who had a very similar background, will go against him. The other problem for me is that, if he was successful at Albion we would only have him for a couple of seasons before he would be stolen away by one of the big boys. I suppose if we tied him to a long contract we would get plenty of compo from whoever took him away, but if he had a long contract and it didn't work out, we would be stuck with a huge bill if we wanted to sack him. Is it worth the risk? I don't think so myself, not when there are plenty of tried and tested candidates out there.

The consequences for Albion, if we get the choice of Head Coach wrong this time could be dire. Paul Clement would seem to be a bit of a gamble and I doubt that JP is in the mood to gamble this time around. A safe pair of hands is required.

The View From Baggy Bottom

Cyril

May 26, 2014 9:33 am

euro bog, "Cast a Dingle" ? Never been much on fishing but I think I might give that a go. Oops, first 'Cast a Dingle' go gets, an old bike with one wheel, a rusty pram, an old Jackett with no money in it...nah I'll pack it in and try Tipton Cut instead.

The View From Baggy Bottom

May 27, 2014 6:37 pm

TJoFB,(really!!)

Moyes is probably the only one that might stay with us long enough to bring stabillity to the club. If he came in and got the backing of JP, I can't see him rushing off to get his fingers burnt again like he did at MU.

Speaking of Woy, wouldn't it be great if he went and won the World Cup. All those pundits and news media know it alls would have to eat their words and pay homage to Sir Woy.

euroboundbaggie

May 26, 2014 8:54 am

If he is installed it looks like we making the same mistake again, but I shall wait and see before I comment, one good thing about it is that when he gives an interview we will be able to understand him.

Cyril

May 26, 2014 9:03 am

I doubt you'll understand him eurobog. He'll speak English and we've all seen YOUR efforts at trying to write it. I'll give you this though, a doghead who can type, even as badly as you do, must be worth a go in a circus. What's that ? You're already in one in Troll City ? Well I never. (Actually, I did on more than one occasion).

capehill

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 8:59 am

Well yet again the E&S have come up with a new favourite for the Head Coach job. No surprise really, they have to try and retain our interest somehow. You believe it or you don't.

Paul Clement has worked with some top coaches during his career so far, somewhat similar to Steve Clarke, who also hadn't been the No.1 anywhere until we gave him his big chance. Most of Clement's career has been spent abroad in Paris, Madrid following a spell at Chelsea. Surely if JP is considering this option he is admitting that the sacking of SC was one of his mistakes, although I don't think he specifically referred to it.

Apart from being the brother of Neil Clement not a lot is known about his capabilities as a coach. Obviously to be Assistant at a great club like Real Madrid does say that you have something about you, but is it enough for us to take a chance on yet another untried as a No.1

I like thousands of others was shocked when SC was sacked, but that has been and gone, but I'm not sure that Paul Clement is the answer. Finally Sky Sports are running with ''Paul Clement says he is ready to step into management''. Interesting !!

CantelloRocket 78

May 26, 2014 9:07 am

It doesn't matter what the Bookies say, it's down to what JP thinks-

so what are we talking about here?-

A guy who's a highly-rated no.2, who's background was at Chelsea, who's been given praise and confidence by his Boss - a Boss who's been in charge at Chelsea and Real Madrid - and having wanted to be a 'no.1' for some time, is now looking for his first opportunity-

is the odd bell ringing here......??

How about re-instating SC from Gardening Leave, and bringing in PC to make them both joint Head Coach at the Baggies?

The Real Bully Hoo.

May 26, 2014 9:25 am

I agree with TGM, the fact that the E&S come up with Today's Cert and it's a different one every day just goes to prove that the club's security is as tight as Fort Knox.

This bloke fits the criteria of being a coach rather than a manager which Moyes doesn't and JP said recently that we won't be changing the system. What we don't know is if he can do the job of being No 1.

This will always be a problem to clubs our size unless we strike lucky with a Roy Hodgson, right time, right place and all that. Otherwise we have to go for a tried and tested plodder like Curbishley or take a risk on the unknown with promise like SC was and Paul Clement would be.

Jack the Hat

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 11:07 am

Cantello

I've no objections to playing ''the Spanish Way'' so long as we have the players to do it. At the moment we have very few who can. I would expect JP to have realised from the Pepe Mel episode that our defenders are too slow to play such a system.

Jack the Hat

May 26, 2014 12:01 pm

I wouldn't mind Paul Clement as those who opposed the Pepe Mel format have been released and he would build his own team from players within Albion's budget corral. I agree with any Head-Coach Jeremy Peace and Co decide on.

Jack the Hat

Happy_baggie

May 26, 2014 12:20 pm

Paul Clement's name has come up before - and I think it could be great for us.... he will have the respect of all the squad, he will have some interesting ideas about style of play - and he should have some good contacts in world football. He also has a cast iron link to the club through Neil Clement.

Comparisons have been made with SC which is fair - but PC will have one thing SC didn't - a football man at the top to oversee the "manager" functions - SC only had Richard Garrilck which left him vulnerable afer Ashworth left - Terry Burton will be a major asset to whoever comes in.

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 12:27 pm

Whoever JP chooses it isn't going to please everyone that's obvious, but we have to believe that his admission to getting things wrong last season has spurred him on to get it right this time. If it is Paul Clement or any of the current list of candidates being bandied about, that's it. We must accept that whoever is chosen it is for the best interests of the club and for no other reason. Get behind JP, the board, the new coach, all the players ( new and existing) and most of all support each other. Let's have everybody pulling in the same direction ---- up the league !!!!

wakefield wolf

Jack the Hat

May 27, 2014 10:21 am

wakefield,

No, I didn't get the chance to read your post, I wish the mods would leave them alone as they take all the fun out of innocent banter. I know how you feel as I have tried to answer the Nut's diatribe he sent me on the dark-side without success.

Keep trying maybe your post will get through next time and my reply to it won't.

The Real Bully Hoo.

CantelloRocket 78

May 26, 2014 2:37 pm

In truth, because it involves an interesting element of risk, I find the idea of Paul Clements as opening up potentially exciting possibilities, the same way as I hoped to see Pepe be given enough 'new faces' to develop his own style and ideas - I'm sure many of us were eager to see the outcome of that experiment-

but at the same time, I can't help feel JP's public admission that we somehow lost our way last season means he'll be keen to go back to 'solid basics', and this Summer's squad recruitments needs to be in harmony with a new Coach's ideas.

The term 'once bitten, twice shy' keeps coming to mind, but for now, we can only guess what's being discussed behind those four walls.

glassboy baggy

Quinton Baggie

May 26, 2014 3:43 pm

JP has made it clear that he will not change the system that has been a relative success until last season...the new man will more than likely have to work with Downing and Kiely....personally I think he is in the frame given his pedigree...but it is all papertalk until the new man is appointed.

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 4:14 pm

If we are going to do the new coach thing properly shouldn't JP be accepting the fact that whoever the new man is will probably want his own backroom staff. To pick someone and insist that they work with Downing/Kiely is counter productive, and could mean we miss out on a guy who could take us a long way forward. I'm not advocating getting rid of Downing/Kiely as I'm sure they will still be needed in some capacity. In the case of Paul Clement, should he be the chosen one, this might not arise as it's doubtful he would have a backroom staff to bring with him, as it would be his first time in charge.

Jack the Hat

May 27, 2014 2:16 am

Quinton,

On the other hand mate, where would we be now if Downing and Kiely hadn't been around to take the weight?. Lets not forget what they did when Steve C left and again at the end of this season. Credit where it is due and Jeremy recognizes it too or they would have gone the same way as Clarke, Mel and McDonough.

ELDERVO

May 26, 2014 4:30 pm

"madrid is a great city", he's gonna love Smerrick.

Not sure it really matters who gets the job though, if as reported here it's the players who make the footballing decisions. Pepe Mel made that quite clear. Whoever comes in needs to be a strong character.

Seriously though, Clement has loads of experience and must have some great contacts so you could do a lot worse. Just can't see Moyes being in the frame at the min but if the appointment drags on and he hasn't committed nearer to the new season start, he might just fancy the post if JP offers him a budget he feels he could work with. Interesting times.

CantelloRocket 78

May 26, 2014 9:18 pm

Elderflower-

with a member of Paul Clement's Family having spent a few years at the Baggies, I'm sure he's familiar with the West Midlands, and it's doubtful if he's shallow or vain enough to start bad-mouthing towns, like some snobbish status-symbol chaser - yer know, the old 'fur coat and no knickers' syndrome....??

As for 'interesting times' at Albion - certainly enough to catch your interest, it seems?

I guess it's better than waiting for news as to whether wolves can capture one - or wait for it - TWO third division players from the Blades, eh....??

Funny how you suddenly turn up trying to pour cold water on the story that the Baggies are linked with someone who's just become part of the Champion's League winning outfit - some might think it's motivated by jealousy.......hmmmmm...........perish the thought, eh....??

Jack the Hat

May 27, 2014 2:51 am

ELDERDER,

Madrid is a great City now they have cleared the Dinglehampton-like slums. No it doesn't matter to you who gets the Albion job as your club doesn't have to get whupped by us again next season. Players make decisions, you mean like your big earns have decided to stay on and drain the cash out of your club?. Strong Character, like Roger Johnson, the only thing that was strong about him was the smell of booze. Whoever we get in won't be a clipboard Connor, what a good catch he was. Bet it is worth the seven quid to go into your Antique shop to view that clipboard. The times are always interesting in the Premiership or have you forgotten, it has been a long time, what with the Double-Drop too. Nice to chat about anything Albion and watch yourself when you sit on those reformed wheelie-bins next season as they may collapse.

simmo54

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 5:39 pm

Great achievement by Fleetwood today. Not a fantastic game but they deserved the win. They have come so far in such a short period of time. Credit to Graham Alexander for what he has done on a shoestring budget. And now the season is over and done with ---- bring on the World Cup !!

CantelloRocket 78

it's claimed Albion have distanced themselves from talk of Lennon or Hughton as potential Head Coach, but Malkey McKay's still highly thought of at the Baggies-

on the playing front, yet again Albion are said to be keeping a close watch on Aaron Cresswell at Ipswich, although he's got 3 years left on his contract, and 20 per cent of any transfer fee will go to Tranmere, his previous club, so I can't see him being cheap if he does leave....

The Real Bully Hoo.

May 26, 2014 7:24 pm

Rocket.

I don't know if you saw it but the bit that caught my eye was Gareth MaCauley saying that the players can't wait to get back because they know they need to put right what went wrong last season. He doesn't seem the sort to talk a load of waffle.

One thing I wonder about with Paul Clement is his lack of a playing career. Not something that bothers me, think Jose Mourinho but I remember the players not listening to Dave McDonough because he 'hadn't played the game.' Having said that I suppose it's not so much what you say as how you say it.

CantelloRocket 78

May 26, 2014 8:55 pm

Bully,

There's an element of fun in 'guess who?', but recent Baggies hot-seat appointments have taken us by suprise, so who knows what awaits us??

My dabble of the week?

Well the likes of Lennon and Hughton may be 'distanced', Sherwood potentially abrasive, Hoddle out of touch, Moyes possibly waiting for interest from high profile clubs, Clement inexperienced, McLaren possibly staying put, etc., etc.-

This week's fiver would be slapped on Malky McKay - available, experienced, disciplined, apparently highly rated by the Albion hierarchy-

Corals have just cut his odds to 8-1, but Paddypower are currently offering 16-1,

bob.williamsfindlay

May 26, 2014 7:06 pm

My choice from the day Pepe Mel left. It is a risk, but is it bigger than any associated with the list of failures lined up already by the Express and Star? Steve Clarke wasn't a bad coach, but he had no plan B when things went wrong and I don't believe he had enough experienced support as others have already stated. Burton and Clement look like a good blend.

King Jeffs Left Boot

May 26, 2014 7:48 pm

J.P.,get yer finger out man, we need at least 8 players coming through the door this year, no manager no players, it ain't rocket science, don't let it go on till after the World Cup, GET IT SORTED or it will be to late, get Moyes at all costs, break the bank if you have to coz if we go for the cheap option again we will go down, you have to hit the ground running in this league and we all know the rewards for staying up.

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 8:44 pm

Pochettino expected to take over at Spurs this week and that will possibly take away one of our choices although, with the amount of players expected to be leaving Southampton that could well reduce it's appeal.

Clement still 4/6 with Paddy Power and SkyBet with Hughton at 9/2. Lennon and Sherwood follow at prices between 8/1 and 14/1. Moyes is also round the 14/1 mark. Not really being much of a betting man, I'm not sure if the bookies are taking notice of certain newspapers or what.

capehill

capehill

Chaps, unfortunately The Great Escape didn't happen for Wolves in there double drop. Looking back at the history of this sorry debacle, a few things have come to light....... Picture the Scene

Imagine the 3 bin dippers in The Great Escape, starring Ronnie Galan with his dingle berry stuck to the hair on his head carrying a bin, Euro doggie with his 3 footed tights carrying a can of Campbell's soup, and last but not least Rick with a silent P, with his six digit glove just about to board the bus.. "look out the Gestapo is coming" ", Papers," barks the commandant.

The commandant is a bit taken a back when he is handed the papers by the inbred hond with six digits on it. "Guten taag", says the commandant ," Ich bin dippin", says euro doggie," Ah your Deutche is excellent" , says the commandant. Rick with a silent p , tells the commandant, "Wir sind der an Wolfenstein" (they are on a trip to Wolfenstein,) "Good luck snaps the commandant", euro doggie says (For no apparent reason whatsoever, as usual) , "Wim wolves ay we", "AH! the vor for u is over ,put your hands up! all of em mind!, Ronnie Gaylan with his dingleberry guise stuck to the hair on his head, is heard shouting , will somebody tell this IDIOT...... boing boing lol. Sorry, but it makes me laff

The Real Bully Hoo.

THEGREENMAN

May 26, 2014 9:24 pm

Cantello

At 16-1 that's worth a decent gamble and, although I don't gamble much I could well be tempted. I have a feeling in my bones that Maclaren could still be tempted. He seems to be dead keen to make it in the Prem and he might not want to wait another season to achieve it. Supposition I know but It's the shortcut for him to get it sooner.

CantelloRocket 78

May 26, 2014 10:00 pm

TGM,

well only 2 of the main Bookies are currently considering McClaren - maybe the others expect him to stay at Derby? - but Paddypower are offering a decent 20-1 for him to turn up at the Baggies, whilst BetVictor have also just CUT their odds to 20-1....

CantelloRocket 78

Boing boing Barry

May 26, 2014 10:58 pm

I keep reading we are after certain managers but when will people relise we are after a coach so we can forget all the managers on the betting list also we don't have to wait for a coach to be appointed to get players in or out back room staff do that

Jack the Hat

The View From Baggy Bottom

May 27, 2014 8:22 am

Jack,

I don't bet either, but bookies will manipulate a stagnent market by creating a run on a particular individual, man/horse, just to stir up some interest. Punters seeing the odds tumble on a favorite want to jump in because they think they must be on a cert.

The market for the next Albion Head Coach has been dead in the water for weeks because the bookies havn't got a clue who to make favorite. So, as soon as a viable prospect appears to throw his hat into the ring, the bookies stimulate income by slashing his odds. It also has the effect of making the odds on other candidates more attractive bwcause they will lengthen, offering value to the wise punter.