Yes ..... I'm all for a Labor Party to represent my interest ..... I'm left of center but I could and would support a party that were a little more right of me but that's it .

Isn't the labor party left of center?

Yes Joe in the UK they have a Labor Party that is left of center ..... I should have stated a Labor Party that represented the interest of the working poor, working class and the middle class and if that party was a little bit right of my views I still would support them .

Maybe I should have also asked what do we all consider where our opinion of the Center is ?

Yes ..... I'm all for a Labor Party to represent my interest ..... I'm left of center but I could and would support a party that were a little more right of me but that's it .

What, your fat public pension isnt fat enough?

My my my Br'er Crankup .... have you been laidoff long from your Government contacting job ......... Ha, ha, ha ..... look at you ..... did you just realize that you been supporting polticians that didn't have your best interest at heart .....

btw my public pension is still safe .... why do you ask .... as for being fat ..... that depends on what you consider fat ....... all my investments that I made are alright ...... but I'm glad we sold our 3 deckers when we did

If it is in terms of power, the TP has wielded a lot of power, but may be on the verge of losing a lot of it if when all is said and done, the voters blame them for the shutdown and its fallout and show it in 2014.

If it is in terms of ideology, the TP and MoveOn are the flip sides of each other.

Yes ..... I'm all for a Labor Party to represent my interest ..... I'm left of center but I could and would support a party that were a little more right of me but that's it .

Isn't the labor party left of center?

Yes Joe in the UK they have a Labor Party that is left of center ..... I should have stated a Labor Party that represented the interest of the working poor, working class and the middle class and if that party was a little bit right of my views I still would support them .

Maybe I should have also asked what do we all consider where our opinion of the Center is ?

Sister,

I think most of us would agree that the Center has been moving steadily to the right for about 3 decades now...slowly but steadily.

I too would support a Labor Party such as you described as a 3rd party in the U.S.

I'd like to see a public opinion party - somebody who doesn't take a stand on any issues, and instead opens up voting on every issue to his/her constituents online, and votes accordingly. I think that's a lot more in keeping with Democracy.

I'd like to see a public opinion party - somebody who doesn't take a stand on any issues, and instead opens up voting on every issue to his/her constituents online, and votes accordingly. I think that's a lot more in keeping with Democracy.

slomag,

That is an interesting idea. I have read about that idea before.

Of course we are a Republic. We vote in lawmakers to representent us. This is an entire new way of going about governing.

It is very similar to community organizing. You find out what issues the people are interested in, and where they stand. Then you organize them to achieve their goals.

I'd like to see a public opinion party - somebody who doesn't take a stand on any issues, and instead opens up voting on every issue to his/her constituents online, and votes accordingly. I think that's a lot more in keeping with Democracy.

slomag,

That is an interesting idea. I have read about that idea before.

Of course we are a Republic. We vote in lawmakers to representent us. This is an entire new way of going about governing.

It is very similar to community organizing. You find out what issues the people are interested in, and where they stand. Then you organize them to achieve their goals.

Cue the Obama haters...

Great idea except our voters think OBMACARE and ACA are two different bills.

I'd like to see a public opinion party - somebody who doesn't take a stand on any issues, and instead opens up voting on every issue to his/her constituents online, and votes accordingly. I think that's a lot more in keeping with Democracy.

slomag,

That is an interesting idea. I have read about that idea before.

Of course we are a Republic. We vote in lawmakers to representent us. This is an entire new way of going about governing.

It is very similar to community organizing. You find out what issues the people are interested in, and where they stand. Then you organize them to achieve their goals.

Cue the Obama haters...

Great idea except our voters think OBMACARE and ACA are two different bills.

I think uninformed voters come out for big elections. If you had a secure way of voting issue by issue, or suggesting legislation, you would only attract those who are passionate about and informed of the issues at hand.

I think we are a republic because of logistics. If there was a feasible way to get every man's vote on every issue, I'm sure that would have appealed to our founding fathers. Just as I'm sure what the system has become would appaul them.

Instead of a third party which the two existing parties are able to keep under their thumb through legal shenanigans (a point that many voters here on the left, right and center might agree with) what about:

A block of voters from left, center and independents who can unify under just a veryy limited set of goals? To bring us back to the government having to be answerable to the voters and not to big money whether the big money be industries, super rich individuals, unions, or even foreign companies or even foreign countries!

If only 5-10% of these three existing blocks could unify to undo things like revolving door lobby/government, undo Citizens Unitied, etc. It cuold help to bring the government back to being answerable to voters. The 5-10% block would need to agree, to commit to making a tightly focused agenda the ONE factor in voting. Such a block would need to be able to vote for someone from the "other" party where that other party is aligned on this one general issue.

Such a block would not be permanent. It need not field third party candidates doomed to failure. It would force election of Republicans and Democrats who will bring back democracy to the system. When accomplished in 4-10 years it would likely disapate as we bring our other differences back to the forefront of debate.

How do any of you ... left and right... feel about such an idea? A sort of Citizens Unified!