About Margaret (de Beaumont) de Quincy

Margaret was born in 1154 in Hampshire, England.1 Margaret's father was 1st Earl of Leicester Robert (Blanchmains) de Beaumont III and her mother was Pernell de Grentemesnil. Her paternal grandparents were Robert (The Just) de Beaumont II and Amice de Montfort; her maternal grandparents were Baron of Hinckley Hugh de Grentmesnil II and Alice de Beaumont. She had a brother and a sister, named William and Amicia. She was the second oldest of the three children. She died at the age of 81 on January 12th, 1235.2

Saher and Margaret were married before 1173.1 They had two sons and two daughters, named Robert, Roger, Hawise and Orabella.

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Personal Details

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Male Earl of Winchester Saher de Quincy IV

Saher was born in 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1 He died at the age of 64 on November 3rd, 1219 in Damietta, Egypt.1

Female Margaret de Beaumont

Margaret was born in 1154 in Hampshire, England.2 She died at the age of 81 on January 12th, 1235.1

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# D: 12 Jan 1235/36

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Children

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Male Robert de Quincy III

Robert was born in 1172.1 He died at the age of 85 in August 1257.1

Male Roger de Quincy

Roger was born about 1174 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.3

Female Hawise de Quincy

Hawise was born about 1180 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.3

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# B: Bet. 1178 and 1184

She died after 1263.4

Female Orabella de Quincey

Orabella was born about 1186 in Long Buckley, Northamptonshire, England.5

Saher IV de QUINCY Earl of Winchester was born 1155 in Winchester, Hampshire, England. He died 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt. Saher married Margaret de BEAUMONT Countess of Winchester on 1170 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

Margaret de BEAUMONT Countess of Winchester was born 1158 in Leicester, Leicestershire, England. She died 12 Jan 1235 in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England. Margaret married Saher IV de QUINCY Earl of Winchester on 1170 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.

They had the following children:

F i Lorette de QUINCY was born 1177.

M ii Sir Robert de QUINCY Knight was born 1179 and died 1217.

M iii Sir Roger de QUINCY Earl of Winchester was born 1184 and died 25 Apr 1264.

Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester married Petronilla[1], who was either a granddaughter or great-granddaughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil. They had five children:

Robert, who succeeded his father as Earl of Leicester;

Roger, who became Bishop of St Andrews in 1189;

William, who was a leper;

Amicia, who married Simon III de Montfort, and whose son Simon subsequently became Earl of Leicester;

Margaret, who married Saer de Quincy, later 1st Earl of Winchester.

Saer de Quincy's immediate background was in the Scottish kingdom: his father was a knight in the service of king William the Lion, and his mother was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife (see below). His rise to prominence in England came through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester: but it is probably no coincidence that her other brother was the de Quincys' powerful Fife neighbour, Roger de Beaumont, Bishop of St Andrews. In 1204, Earl Robert died, leaving Margaret as co-heiress of the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester.

By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Saer de Quincy had three sons and three daughters:

Lorette who married Sir William de Valognes

Arabella who married Sir Richard Harcourt

Robert (d. 1217). Some sources say he married Hawise, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, earl of Chester. However, it is more likely Hawise married Saer's brother Robert II;

Roger, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);

Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great;

WALERAN de Beaumont, son of ROBERT de Beaumont-le-Roger Comte de Meulan, Earl of Leicester & his wife Elisabeth de Vermandois [Capet] (1104-Préaux 9/10 Apr 1166, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). His parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that he was the twin of his brother Robert[1986]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Meulan, and to his fiefs in Normandy. He and his twin brother were brought up at the court of Henry I King of England[1987]. He rebelled against King Henry, with his brothers-in-law Hugues de Montfort, Hugues de Châteauneuf and Guillaume Louvel[1988], but was captured at the siege of Vatteville 26 Mar 1124. The king confiscated his lands and held him in prison for five years, successively at Rouen, Bridgenorth and Wallingford, until 1129. After the accession of King Stephen in 1135, Waléran supported the king who created him Earl of Worcester in 1138. However, he fled at the battle of Lincoln 2 Feb 1141 and came to an agreement with Geoffroy Comte d'Anjou who gave him the castle of Montfort-sur-Risle. "Gualeran comes Mellensis" confirmed his foundation of a chapel "at Watteville before the gates of his castle" by charter dated [1154/55], witnessed by his sons Robert and Gualeran and his wife Agnes[1989]. Robert of Torigny records that "Gualerannus comes Mellenti" became "monachus Pratelli" in 1166[1990].

Betrothed to (Easter 1136) MATHILDE de Blois, daughter of STEPHEN King of England & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Boulogne ([1133/34]-before 1141, bur Priory of Holy Trinity, Aldgate Without, London). Daughter of King Stephen, Orderic Vitalis records her betrothal when she was "two years old" but does not name her[1991]. The Chronicon Valassense names "comes Mellenti Gualerannus" and "uxore sua regis Stephani familia"[1992]. William of Newburgh records her burial, together with that of her brother Baudouin, as "children of King Stephen and Queen" and wife of "comitis de Medlint", quoting the records of Holy Trinity[1993].

m (1141) AGNES de Montfort, daughter of AMAURY [III] de Montfort Comte d'Evreux & his second wife Agnès de Garlande (-15 Dec 1181). Robert of Torigny refers to the wife of "Gualerannus comes Mellenti" as "sorore Simonis comitis Ebroicensis" but does not name her[1994]. "G comes Mellenti et A comitissa uxor mea" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe by undated charter[1995]. Her brother gave her Gournay-sur-Marne as her marriage portion[1996]. "Agnes comitissa Mell." donated property "haia de Lintot" to the monastery of Montvilliers for the soul of "Almarici comitis ebroicensis patris mei…[et]…comitis Mell. Gual. domini mei…et Roberti filii mei" by undated charter[1997]. "Gualeran comes Mellensis" confirmed his foundation of a chapel "at Watteville before the gates of his castle" by charter dated [1154/55], witnessed by his sons Robert and Gualeran and his wife Agnes[1998].

Comte Waléran & his wife had nine children:

1. ROBERT de Beaumont (-Poitiers 16 Aug 1204, bur Préaux). "Gualeran comes Mellensis" confirmed his foundation of a chapel "at Watteville before the gates of his castle" by charter dated [1154/55], witnessed by his sons Robert and Gualeran and his wife Agnes[1999]. Robert of Torigny records that "filius eius Robertus" succeeded "Gualerannus comes Mellenti" when he became a monk in 1166[2000]. He succeeded his father in 1166 as Comte de Meulan. "R comes de Mellento" confirmed the donation of "nobilis vir Galerannus comes pater meus" to Notre-Dame de la Trappe by undated charter[2001]. "Robertus comes Mellenti" donated property to Notre-Dame du Bon-Port by charter dated to [1190], signed by "Petrus filius meus"[2002]. "Robertus comes Mellenti" donated property to Notre-Dame du Bon-Port by charter dated 1192, signed by "Henricus filius meus…"[2003]. He experienced major difficulties in balancing the interests of Normandy, France and England, as landholder in all three jurisdictions. Eventually Philippe II King of France seized all his estates in France and John King of England all those in England[2004]. m ([1165]) MAUD of Cornwall, daughter of RAINALD de Dunstanville Earl of Cornwall & his wife Beatrice FitzWilliam. Robert of Torigny records the marriage of "filius eius [Gualeranni comitis Mellenti] Robertus" and "filiam Rainaldi comitis Cornubiensis" but does not name her[2005]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. Comte Robert & his wife had six children:

a) WALERAN [V] de Meulan (-Palestine [1190/91]). "Galerannus filius Roberti comes Mellentis" donated property to Notre-Dame du Bon-Port by charter dated to [1190][2006]. He was killed during the Fourth Crusade. m (contract 1189) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Fougères, widow of GUILLAUME Bertran, daughter of RAOUL Seigneur de Fougères & his wife Mathilde ---. The marriage contract between “Galeranum filium Roberti comitis Mellenti” and “Margaritam filiam Radulfi de Feugeriis” is dated 1189, and names her first husband “Willelmo Bertranno”[2007].

- SEIGNEURS de COURSEULLES-sur-MER[2008].

b) PIERRE de Meulan (-[May/Oct] 1203). "Robertus comes Mellenti" donated property to Notre-Dame du Bon-Port by charter dated to [1190], signed by "Petrus filius meus"[2009]. An anonymous continuation of the Chronicle of Robert of Mont-Saint-Michel records that "Petrus de Mellento, filius Roberti Comitis Mellentini" defected to the French king with "castrum Bellimontis" in 1203, but died soon after[2010]. Deacon at Wimborne.