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Yet nothing... NOTHING about the White Washing that happened in Dr Strange.

I heard a lot more complaints about The Ancient One being "whitewashed" than I have about Iron Fist. In fact, the only I've heard about the latter is on this forum, and that wasn't even complaining, it was just mentioning the existence of the complaint.

There were nothing but complaints when it came to the Ancient One, more so considering that was done because putting a Chinese Actor in a Tibet-born role would have been really offensive and China wouldn't let them put an actor from Tibet into the proper role.

There were nothing but complaints when it came to the Ancient One, more so considering that was done because putting a Chinese Actor in a Tibet-born role would have been really offensive and China wouldn't let them put an actor from Tibet into the proper role.

And I understand those complaints, even though I thought Tilda Swinton did an amazing job in their version of the role. I also understand why they did it. A potential boycott backed by the Chinese government is a lot more threatening than one backed by the comparatively tiny SJW community. Especially when the latter is a particularly fickle audience anyway.

I'm just not seeing any kind of real blowback regarding Iron Fist. Sure, I can Google and find references to it, but that's pretty much always the case. People are always complaining about something. And I didn't exactly have to do that for Doctor Strange, or Fant4stic, or even the new Spider-Man, which were/are having similar casting kerfuffles.

About three episodes in so far. First episode was really strong, second really weak, and third was about on par with expectations from Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and DD2. Only REAL complaint so far is:

Spoiler for Details:

Three episodes in and he's only used the "Iron Fist" twice. And the way he uses it reminds me of a long ass cooldown skill from an RPG, where he needs to get hurt, charge the technique, and the wind down the technique.

Hard to believe it's supposed to be a "living weapon" when so far he's coming across as the weakest powered person in the MCU.

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Okay, holy crap episode 4. No spoilers for it, but to summarize it, "Cut the crap and start to the real plot now" about sums it up. Hopefully it keeps this momentum going.

So far so good for me. At the very least I'm finding it easier to get into this show and want to burn through it more than some previous Netflix Marvel shows. What Danny Rand is trying to do in the first few episodes makes sense and I like how it builds up to his major struggles.

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Makes sense that it would be such a fight early on for him to simply prove his identity. Not only is he presumed dead, but he has no family to give him support. He has to struggle and struggle just to get people to stop thinking he's a lunatic trying to impersonate a dead guy.

So far I like Danny. He's struggling with a lot of things. The loss of his family. the brutal training he received, his responsibility as the Iron Fist, and just trying to regain his very identity. He's not really running away from it, just struggling with the world he finds himself in.

And I really like how things unfold in episode 6. He's struggling to be the Iron Fist, but also a person. The Iron Fist way would have been to let the girl die and defeat the Hand. But he's also human. And this was a rude awakening. The Hand aren't going to play fair. They will follow the rules....unless it looks like they are going to lose.

Curious to see how things are going to unfold for him.

So far like the main cast. Colleen Wing is pretty awesome. Like that she has her own struggles and arc going on. She has all these skills and...wants to do something with them. Beating on her students isn't doing it. And the 'itch' gets to the point that she's fighting in cage matches. A dark desire to really inflict pain on people and fight. At the very least I like where her character might go. Unlike say....other side characters in other Netflix shows that seem really bad at what they do despite the show telling us how good they are at it.

Fingers crossed that this keeps going strong. In the end tastes vary. Just for me it has been a good ride so far.

Edit: And yes I did basically marathon this in a day.

Spoiler for Ep7-13:

I will say first it was a nice twist to have Colleen be part of the Hand . Episode 10 made me think back to episode 6 and how the Hand were described. The deception, the studying of the Iron Fist's moves and actions, and how doubt will lead straight to death. Or at the very least to the Iron Fist losing his powers...

Claire got a bit annoying there along the way. I mean I get the whole medical practitioner being against killing thing....but come on. We're talking about killing a guy....who has already died twice! Even the Avengers don't work on a no-kill rule. And I mean really the woman with claws for fighting people is going to talk about others being screwed up? She patches up random super powered people in her apartment. Hello hypocrite.

Kind of a bleak note as well to leave on. Kind of too bad the story has Davos go full villain. He wasn't wrong and could have been left in that sense. A different point of view from Danny, but not necessarily an antagonist. And the whole last scene was fitting in a way. He abandoned his post. Yes he had reason and yes he gained something through his personal journey. But in the end....he failed K'un-Lun. He had a difficult time and yes there was problems with that place....but he left it undefended. No dragon, no Iron Fist. Just extremely well trained fighters, but ones that could be overwhelmed by the right enemy. Nice job Danny.

Harold being the main threat worked pretty well. He was really messed up. And the scary thing is that it wasn't all because he was brought back from the dead numerous times. He was just a toxin that ruined the lives of everyone around him. While I should have seen it coming, it was a bit surprising that Ward ends up the most solid person. He was a jerk as a kid, but he suffered his whole life by his father. He was truly screwed up by his dad and went through hell to come out a decent person. Joy....sadly she takes more after her father. She was more like him than she could have imagined. Though part of it may be the woman being consumed by guilt of helping prove Danny's identity and triggering this event. Guilt was a major issue for the show.

Also, credit to Madame Gao. That is one pain in the rear lady. Think she could actually teach Loki a thing or two about being an utter terror even when you are locked up. No matter who she was with, she could just mess them up by talking to them. And the best thing is that she doesn't lie. She wields truth like a brutal weapon. Not that she's completely a pushover either. She just is really good at causing trouble. One of my favorite antagonists in these Netflix series.

In the end, good times. I wouldn't say it is the best Netflix Marvel show. As a whole I don't think it holds up that well. Though I might put it 3rd after the first two seasons of Daredevil.

Frankly, Marvel comic is suffering in black-washing for whatever their reason racial equity or what so those people complaining white-washing issue for this are doesn't make any sense.

Can we not ____ Wash anything and just do more shows and movies about the MANY different racial characters? I've been dying for Black Panther or Static Shock (and if Jaden Smith gets that roll I WILL jump off this flat planet)

Finally watched Iron Fist. A good show even though it's not impressive like the earlier Marvel-Netflix shows. At least it shows that Jessica Henwick's character Colleen Wing is a talented fighter unlike the embarrassing fight from GOT.

PS: I find it weird that this the 1st Marvel-Netflix show that Critics hate but viewers love.

It was an OK series. Liked it more than Luke Cage and Jessica Jones, and it was miles better than Agent Carter. Well, except that Jones had a better villian. Still not as god as DD or Agents of Shield as far as Marvel TV series goes.

I've also finished it. I liked DD (both seasons) more, and Jessica Jones at parts was better. I think it was overall better than Luke Cage. Although the dialogue sometimes bothered me. Just felt so weird at times and out of place. I can't really explain why though.

I guess I gotta be the one to say it. Don't hate me for my opinion, but this has become my favorite Netflix series of the MCU. I feel like after the first 3 episodes, the pace got better and the action felt more frequent and consistent in comparison to other series. I didn't know anything about Iron Fist going into this. So that may have worked out to my benefit too.

On a side note, it's been very rewarding seeing Claire's character evolve throughout the course of all these different netflix projects.

Through episode 10 now. Gotta say, for a guy who's supposed to be in perfect control of his mind, body, and emotions... Danny has a far worse temper than Matt Murdock. Hell, it's almost as bad as the temper on Jessica Jones.

Not liking the turn the series has taken the past episode or two, though. Starting to feel a bit aimless like DD2 and Luke Cage.

Through episode 10 now. Gotta say, for a guy who's supposed to be in perfect control of his mind, body, and emotions... Danny has a far worse temper than Matt Murdock. Hell, it's almost as bad as the temper on Jessica Jones.

I can see why you'd feel that way. Though I do think it's explainable to a degree. I mean I would assume he probably didn't get a lot of opportunities to learn how to deal with the pain of emotions stemming from love and betrayal during his time in K'un-Lun. Physical pain and fear strike me as the things he learned to control the most.

Well it was... dissapointing, the lead has absolutely no fighting chops, he looks like he's tap dancing in every fight, Claire feels shoehorned for continuity, and above all it felt like watching a literal child playing superhero, wich was probably intended, if we go by the 'lost 15 years in a mystical monastery getting phisically abused by warrior monks', giving him absolutely no tools to deal with his trauma or get emotionally mature.
All that could probably have been overlookef if the lead didnt look like a hipster and could pretend to fight, I'm sure that top notch fighting coreography could have saved this, but all in all it was average and a step down when compared to Jessica Jones or Daredevil, probably on par with Luke Cage.

Finally finished it. Definitely the weakest of the Netflix series. I felt like it was at least better than Luke Cage until a little after half way through, but then it just fell apart. They clearly didn't know where they wanted to go with this series, nor what they wanted to accomplish. By the end I feel I neither understand the character of "Danny Rand" nor care about him, which is a first for these series. And unlike Luke Cage, he barely used his powers at all, making him feel like a cheap knockoff of Daredevil 99% of the time.