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It was an epic AB, but could have easily had a different result. Check the Sox game thread during that AB.

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I watched that whole AB live. Many ABs could end differently—the facts are that he loaded the bases, gave up a granny and left the game. I'm not swayed by a single defensive miscue—such things happen all the time and are part of the game. I'm not buying the Happ owns the Red Sox meme one bit.

I watched that whole AB live. Many ABs could end differently—the facts are that he loaded the bases, gave up a granny and left the game. I'm not swayed by a single defensive miscue—such things happen all the time and are part of the game. I'm not buying the Happ owns the Red Sox meme one bit.

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And onto the straw man. Marvellous. Dude, he pitched well against us and might be the best matchup vs. us the Yankees have given recent performance of their staff. That's not a meme.

i would say maybe before we got Pearce and Kinsler but they have both played really well against him. Paired with JDM and Mookie and I dont think he is as scary as Severino could be. Severino has been bad recently but can be Cy Young Caliber

I guess I understand this Happ v. Sox meme they keep throwing out there—but why does no one mention the fact that the last pitch he threw against Boston was cleaned out by Mookie for a Grand Slam?

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Well as Sox fans we all certainly hope Happ suddenly starts giving up that sort of big hit on a "regular" basis. But he has pitched very well against the Red Sox and is one of the main reasons they got him. No disputing his good record of quality innings versus Boston.

And onto the straw man. Marvellous. Dude, he pitched well against us and might be the best matchup vs. us the Yankees have given recent performance of their staff. That's not a meme.

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Happ threw the pitch.
Michael Kay can barely mention Happ's name without invoking his brilliance against the Red Sox. If you're forced to watch YES Network, you'll recognize it as a meme. And you will never hear mention of his 3+ inning, 5 ER last start against Boston—not a peep.

Happ threw the pitch.
Michael Kay can barely mention Happ's name without invoking his brilliance against the Red Sox. If you're forced to watch YES Network, you'll recognize it as a meme. And you will never hear mention of his 3+ inning, 5 ER last start against Boston—not a peep.

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Fortunately, I rarely watch the YES feed. But if that's what you're arguing against, you're literally arguing against concepts and beliefs not espoused by anyone in this thread, MFY fan or otherwise.

Fortunately, I rarely watch the YES feed. But if that's what you're arguing against, you're literally arguing against concepts and beliefs not espoused by anyone in this thread, MFY fan or otherwise.

Pro tip: that's a strawman in debating circles.

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Pro tips are so non-condescending. I never said I was "arguing against" the YES Network—those are your words—I'll spare you the Pro-tip on that technique. I simply stated facts about his last start that are rarely, if ever mentioned—you'll note not even in this thread. That was enough to argue against. The wider 'meme' issue grew out of this one but was not what I was initially reacting to. Keep disputing the 3+ inning, 5 ER last start all you want but it's in the books.

Pro tips are so non-condescending. I never said I was "arguing against" the YES Network—those are your words—I'll spare you the Pro-tip on that technique. I simply stated facts about his last start that are rarely, if ever mentioned—you'll note not even in this thread. That was enough to argue against. The wider 'meme' issue grew out of this one but was not what I was initially reacting to. Keep disputing the 3+ inning, 5 ER last start all you want but it's in the books.

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No one is arguing something that actually happened and there have barely been any posts about anything in this thread. You have the best team in franchise history, sit back and enjoy them and who gives a shit what Michael Kay ever says about anything.

Pro tips are so non-condescending. I never said I was "arguing against" the YES Network—those are your words—I'll spare you the Pro-tip on that technique. I simply stated facts about his last start that are rarely, if ever mentioned—you'll note not even in this thread. That was enough to argue against. The wider 'meme' issue grew out of this one but was not what I was initially reacting to. Keep disputing the 3+ inning, 5 ER last start all you want but it's in the books.

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I was going for condescending, so that's good news. You were arguing against some "meme" about Happ that is driven by not only the words and wisdom of Michael Kay, but also crazy shit like factual evidence (beyond of course the perfectly predictive grand slam inning,which is obviously an error-free representation of his past and future performance). So yeah, just because you "never said" that's what you were reacting to/arguing against, the entirety of your content in this thread is you doing exactly that.

If Melvin had only avoided using noted Rodney, the modern Yankee Bullpen Meltdown Artist (successor to Benitez and Rhodes).

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Man, you guys never let go of past Yankee successes. I thought 2004 fixed that.
This year's Sox team is inflicting damage on my psyche. The regular season pennant race is over but I tuned in to the ninth inning yesterday on the way home from golf. Brandon Phillips! As soon as Castiglione said it was high and deep, I switched to NPR.