mike is pretty amazing.
who is better? and im not asking that thinking there isnt someone i would just like to know so i can check them out.
anywho mikes style is kick ass and he fits the music great what more could you ask for ?

nuh-uh...
He really is very good, no reasonable person will deny it, but the "best drummer" title is a very subjective one. If I had to choose a drummer for a progressive band (given that I could choose literaly any drummer) I'd choose him (or virgil donati of portnoy's busy) any time, but for a funky band I think I'd go for another one.
And the "best drummer" title is also subjective to personal taste.

nuh-uh...
He really is very good, no reasonable person will deny it, but the "best drummer" title is a very subjective one. If I had to choose a drummer for a progressive band (given that I could choose literaly any drummer) I'd choose him (or virgil donati of portnoy's busy) any time, but for a funky band I think I'd go for another one.
And the "best drummer" title is also subjective to personal taste.

Yes and style of music that the drummer plays.
This has probably been established many many times.

Mike portnoy is a very good drummer and i do enjoy watching and listing to him drumming but hes need to get more creative and I KNOW that danny carey is way better than mike portnoy. If anybody has every heard of tools songs they would agree with me for sure!

Mike portnoy is a very good drummer and i do enjoy watching and listing to him drumming but hes need to get more creative and I KNOW that danny carey is way better than mike portnoy. If anybody has every heard of tools songs they would agree with me for sure!

Tool are fantastic musicians
DT are fantastic musicians

The day I can call into question their musicality will be the day I have the cojones to compare my drumming to theirs - almost certainly never. Try to avoid being a fanboy - perspective may make one a wiser person; it certainly makes ones' posts an easier read!

The one on the left. There are apparently 3 cymbals stacked on top of each other. (The others could well be his signature series, but not necessarily. Gavin Harrison (another splendid musician of compare to Mike and Danny) makes new cymbals by butchering old ones!)

Mike portnoy is a very good drummer and i do enjoy watching and listing to him drumming but hes need to get more creative and I KNOW that danny carey is way better than mike portnoy. If anybody has every heard of tools songs they would agree with me for sure!

I'm not agree with you at all! My favourite Tool songs are Sober, 46&2, The Pot, Jambi(?), Weak and Powerless, Undertow. That's it. I have 3x more DT favourite songs. And most of all, DT Octavarium album is awesome! One of my favourites. And Tool 10 000 days... dissapointment for me. Too few "straightbeat" songs, kind of a boring.
OK I make it short, Carey is great, but Portnoy is the best.

Mike has been my favourite drummer for 3 years now. He's very creative and he inspires me a lot. You can recognize him instantly, often because of his chops.

Even though his my favourite drummer, I don't think his a top technique drummer. There are many with better techinque. The thing is that Mike really freaks you out with his chops and odd-time signatures playing but is not that hard to get if you listen to his music for a long time, because style is very predictable once you get it.

I'm still a fan of his style but I'm always listening to other drummers because Mikes influence is so undeniable that if you listen too much to him, you'll end up making his chops every time, and that's his style, not yours.

In closing, Mikes is one of the best drummers the way I see it (creative and technically) but there are others with an awesome playing too!!!

Another fast paced drummer that has everything in order, from his head to his feet. Literally..he has the double bass down perfectly and he blends it in well with the style of music he plays. Their Rush tributes are very nice as well as their hit singles, and their albums. He is a great drummer, probably one of the best in my opinion.

First time I saw mathematics and drums in one solid solution for perfect drumming. I saw his DVD on progressive drumming and sometimes beginners (like me) just find it hard to comprehend how the hell did he conceptualize numbers like that.

I really enjoy Portnoys' style and speed! But what REALLY impresses me about him is that he has FUN when he plays! And shows it!! EVERY time he gets behind that BIG kit of his, you can tell that he would NOT wanna be anywhere else, but right there, bangin' and flyin' around that kit!

Mike Portnoy has talent, speed, coordination, the perfect attitude and the desire to succeed! Which he has and deserves! And...HE HAS FUN...Play On! ;-)

First time I saw mathematics and drums in one solid solution for perfect drumming. I saw his DVD on progressive drumming and sometimes beginners (like me) just find it hard to comprehend how the hell did he conceptualize numbers like that.

A very good drummer, Dream Theater is one of my favourite Metal bands. When i first listened DT i couldn't believe how difficult and complex the music was. I was totally shocked. Then I kind of internalized everything this awesome drummer was playing on his tracks and it wasn't THAT hard. I love his DVD's, is always refreshing to see him play.
Not even on my Top 10, but it was a drummer that used to influence strongly in my playing, now not anymore.

Mike Portnoy is nothing special. I know everyone is gonna hate me for saying that. But, seriously, I have yet to hear Mike do something that makes me say ooh-ahh. I own two of his CDs and I definately don't listen to them for the drumming. It's so uncreative, so uninventive- and progressive music is supposed to be just that. I can predict every note he is going to play. RLFF fills are for newbies... and apparantly for Mike Portnoy. I hear everyone say he is such a great technichal drummer. Whatever. Tell me exactly where to find something technical if I'm missing something. A true technical drummer is somebody like Virgil Donati, Danny Carey, Bill Bruford, Thomas Lang, ect.

Mike Portnoy is nothing special. I know everyone is gonna hate me for saying that. But, seriously, I have yet to hear Mike do something that makes me say ooh-ahh. I own two of his CDs and I definately don't listen to them for the drumming. It's so uncreative, so uninventive- and progressive music is supposed to be just that. I can predict every note he is going to play. RLFF fills are for newbies... and apparantly for Mike Portnoy. I hear everyone say he is such a great technichal drummer. Whatever. Tell me exactly where to find something technical if I'm missing something. A true technical drummer is somebody like Virgil Donati, Danny Carey, Bill Bruford, Thomas Lang, ect.

No hate here. You are entitled to your opinion. As far as not liking Mike, OK. He can be repetitive. But that aside. You have to admit he is very intense when it comes to his ability to play in odd times and change from one odd time to another. And just because one drummer is not as technical, complex or fast as another does not mean that the drummer is not good. He just may not appeal to you. Which is fine by me.
If you like Dream Theater's style of music check out Vox Tempus. Very, very Dream Theateresque. Gregg Bissonette plays on the CD. And I believe it is some of his best playing. Gregg's my favorite and I am familiar w/ his rock and jazz playing. This just shows another side of Gregg's incredible playing ability. One I didn't know he had.

Mike Portnoy is nothing special. I know everyone is gonna hate me for saying that. But, seriously, I have yet to hear Mike do something that makes me say ooh-ahh. I own two of his CDs and I definately don't listen to them for the drumming. It's so uncreative, so uninventive- and progressive music is supposed to be just that. I can predict every note he is going to play. RLFF fills are for newbies... and apparantly for Mike Portnoy. I hear everyone say he is such a great technichal drummer. Whatever. Tell me exactly where to find something technical if I'm missing something. A true technical drummer is somebody like Virgil Donati, Danny Carey, Bill Bruford, Thomas Lang, ect.

OMG you own two cds with Mike portnoy on it? THAT MAKES YOU AN EXPERT ON HIM. Give me a break. Sure he uses the RLFF quite often, but the way he uses them fits perfect whenever he uses them, and he uses them in unique combinations by spreading them between octobans and throwing them into odd time grooves. You want some good technical Dream Theater songs? Try The Dance Of Eternity, The instrumental section of metropolis pt.1, Octavarium, The second half of The Ministry of Lost Souls, The Great Debate, The Test That Stumped Them All, and many more. The thing about Mike Portnoy is that he is able to be technical, and also be able to be tasteful in the midst of all the odd time things he does, and that is a hard thing to do. Sure, he doesnt do the insane inter independance stuff that Thomas Lang does, but that's a whole different ball game. Mike portnoy is a master at his style of progressive drumming. Until I see a video of you doing what Mike Portnoy does, and do it better, then you have no room to criticize him.

Mike Portnoy is nothing special. I know everyone is gonna hate me for saying that. But, seriously, I have yet to hear Mike do something that makes me say ooh-ahh. I own two of his CDs and I definately don't listen to them for the drumming. It's so uncreative, so uninventive- and progressive music is supposed to be just that. I can predict every note he is going to play. RLFF fills are for newbies... and apparantly for Mike Portnoy. I hear everyone say he is such a great technichal drummer. Whatever. Tell me exactly where to find something technical if I'm missing something. A true technical drummer is somebody like Virgil Donati, Danny Carey, Bill Bruford, Thomas Lang, ect.

While I respect your opinion, I believe you are completely off the mark when it comes to your statement about creativity. My God, the man is consistantly creating off the wall rhythms to play.

You can say he doesn't have the "feel" of a Bonham, but come on. Creativity is one Mike's strongest assets as a drummer. The guy IS progressive drumming. Consistantly voted best prog drummer. He is the most influential prog drummer ( I don't consider RUSH prog, so don't compare him to Neil) of the current generation.

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