Makes me smile to see so many people boycotting CTD. I am with the majority, they would have to give the ammo or anything away for me to buy from them. They only reason I would then is I would know they were loosing money!

I stand in alliance with those of you who refuse to do business with CTD.

I'm still on their mailing list however and received their October 2013 catalog mailer a few days ago. While I've come to expect ridicilous, almost comical price points from CTD, I just couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this on page 5 of the aforementioned catalog. Take a look at this:

They wont even ship cali legal parts here, asked about uppers and they gave some B.S....GO Parallaxtactical for being in cali...CTD WILL GET NO MORE $ from me, the prices not to mention shipping (like im asking for gold plated tnt or something)make for a near stroke feeling until you double check at midwayusa.....

I remember looking at their catalogs all the time when I was a kid. My father was big into catalog orders back then. This was over 15 years ago when their prices were indeed cheap....now....not so much.

It is fine that some of you refuse to buy from CTD but, you can't hold it against them for price gouging. Its just simple economics law of supply and demand. CTD is just a player in this game. "Don't hate the player, hate the game"

-Competition - I'm glad CTD doesn't have a monopoly on any product.
-Long term memories of Gun-owners.
-The cost of offending Gun-owners sensibilities who are willing to sacrifice their own personal utility to deny profits to those who tried to take advantage of them.

-Competition - I'm glad CTD doesn't have a monopoly on any product.
-Long term memories of Gun-owners.
-The cost of offending Gun-owners sensibilities who are willing to sacrifice their own personal utility to deny profits to those who tried to take advantage of them.

Well, I don't know what kind of economics course you were in but it does in form of opportunity cost. The supply curves reflect marginal cost curves, demand curves are determined by marginal utility curves.Consumers will be willing to buy a given quantity of a good, at a given price, if the marginal utility of additional consumption is equal to the opportunity cost determined by the price, that is, the marginal utility of alternative consumption choices. The demand schedule is defined as the willingness and ability of a consumer to purchase a given product in a given frame of time. You will buy from CTD regardless of your thoughts of them, if the price is right...

The determinants of demand are:
Income
Tastes and preferences
Prices of related goods and services
Consumers' expectations about future prices and incomes that can be checked
Number of potential consumers

It is fine that some of you refuse to buy from CTD but, you can't hold it against them for price gouging. Its just simple economics law of supply and demand. CTD is just a player in this game. "Don't hate the player, hate the game"

God Bless

I can blame them all I want. There were at least 10 competitors of theirs that kept their prices in check during the insanity. Those 10+ earned my respect and future business by not gouging. Loyalty is earned.

__________________“Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain.” - Sir Winston Churchill

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!” - Senator Barry Goldwater

Well, I don't know what kind of economics course you were in but it does in form of opportunity cost. The supply curves reflect marginal cost curves, demand curves are determined by marginal utility curves.Consumers will be willing to buy a given quantity of a good, at a given price, if the marginal utility of additional consumption is equal to the opportunity cost determined by the price, that is, the marginal utility of alternative consumption choices. The demand schedule is defined as the willingness and ability of a consumer to purchase a given product in a given frame of time. You will buy from CTD regardless of your thoughts of them, if the price is right...

The determinants of demand are:
Income
Tastes and preferences
Prices of related goods and services
Consumers' expectations about future prices and incomes that can be checked
Number of potential consumers

I have a degree in Economics. You missed calculating the elasticity of demand in your determinants.

CTD can suck it because the market is perfectly competitive, substitutes are high and brand DIS-loyalty.

While it would be irrational to not buy 9MM from them at 25 cents a round shipped, I will make that irrational choice because my personal utility function of F(u) = C T D brings me more happiness than the 4 cents a round in savings.

Theoretical economics is different from _applied_ economics as people make irrational choices as per my example above - otherwise everyone in the field would be making perfect decisions every single time which they do not.

You're enabling by even posting the deal. Some aren't aware about CDT's gouging and will buy it because you posted it. Sales that they would have lost otherwise.
So by posting it, you're indirectly adding money to CTD's profits.

Get what you can, because with all these dumb ****s going after school (prayers out to the teacher that was just killed) just a matter of time that the CA senate is going to try and push some other wack *** ****, then another panic is going to happend AGAIN. Then people are going to cry that no one has anything.

Well, I don't know what kind of economics course you were in but it does in form of opportunity cost. The supply curves reflect marginal cost curves, demand curves are determined by marginal utility curves.Consumers will be willing to buy a given quantity of a good, at a given price, if the marginal utility of additional consumption is equal to the opportunity cost determined by the price, that is, the marginal utility of alternative consumption choices. The demand schedule is defined as the willingness and ability of a consumer to purchase a given product in a given frame of time. You will buy from CTD regardless of your thoughts of them, if the price is right...

The determinants of demand are:
Income
Tastes and preferences
Prices of related goods and services
Consumers' expectations about future prices and incomes that can be checked
Number of potential consumers

Regardless of price, when the consumer feels like he/she has been screwed by a company, regardless of reason, and that company makes no effort to right the wrong or even apologize, they will lose that customers business.

That rule trumps supply and demand. That is what the Calgunners here are communicating. That and reputation, particularly bad reputation by word of mouth from former customers, have more impact that a "good price".

I knew nothing of the 2008 election price hikes these guys did. I found them in Feb. 2011 and spent a fair amount of money with them. By mid 2011 I was so disgusted with them from personal bad experiences that had nothing to do with price hikes I had had enough. They started at a gunshow table years ago and were a good place but as happens with a lot of businesses they hire people to run things as they grow and either don't watch them or make decisions that are contrary to what made them sucessful in the first place. I deal with vendors all day long everyday and I really can't remember any others that have a facebook page started for the sole purpose of boycotting them besides CTD. To each his own. They must be making money from unknowing customers or they'd have to do things differently. Good marketing and a place as huge as the internet affords them a huge pool of customers, some that have no idea what prices could be.

I found this an interesting read a few years ago. It's a post telling the users of a forum, ARFCOM, that they were going to be back on the site. The person posting was a regular user of the forum that had gone to work for them and had his rearend handed to him. This was before this last election. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/123...y_.html&page=1

I've heard from Texans that the in store experience with them is great. I mentioned some of the CA issues, and they basically just shook their head, and said that the people in the brick and mortar store are nothing like that.

I've heard from Texans that the in store experience with them is great. I mentioned some of the CA issues, and they basically just shook their head, and said that the people in the brick and mortar store are nothing like that.

How can the in-store experience be great with $100 AR and Glock mags and $1.00 per round .223 and .45? I don't believe them for one second. Unless they were charging 75% less in the stores there's no way anyone would say that. I suspect they were talking out of their arses.

__________________“Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain.” - Sir Winston Churchill

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!” - Senator Barry Goldwater

Dunno. Frankly I couldn't care less about price hikes. Everybody decided between being out of stock or out pricing the hoarders. Prepared people weren't impacted. I hate CTD for their BS attitudes and snide snipes they make at fictitious CA laws. I won't shop where random items aren't available because of what state I live in.

It is fine that some of you refuse to buy from CTD but, you can't hold it against them for price gouging. Its just simple economics law of supply and demand. CTD is just a player in this game. "Don't hate the player, hate the game"

God Bless

I rather pay slightly more to a company that supports CA gun owners than a company that tries to screw us every chance they get, so f*ck that economics bullsh*t. At the end of the day, even with "great pricing", you wouldn't continue to shop and support a company that sh*ts on you over and over, would you? Pretty much, you're saying "oh it's ok if CTD don't want to sell CA approved products to CA gun owners. It's simple economics so us Californians shouldn't hold it against CTD. Instead we should blame the economics law". Lol, sure guy. You tell me what kind of role does "supply and demand" play in not wanting to sell CA compliant parts to Californians? Just curious, why are you so defensive? Do you work for them?