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Commentaire de PrincePhobos

Hopefully this means we can later get Sethrak as a playable allied race for the Horde :D

Commentaire de darkryder13

on 2018-04-12T02:43:29-05:00

I think Vulpera would make a perfect fit for the Horde, and perhaps a faction of rebel Sethrak can make some deal with the Alliance. We know the Alliance does eventually land in Voldun.

Commentaire de TobiasAmaranth

on 2018-04-12T02:45:08-05:00

Alliance's version of Vol'dun:\r\r-Start of Vol'dun Foothold-\rArrive by boat.\rTake Shatterstone Harbor from Faithless occupation.\rHelp Sergeant Ermey --> "Rescue Private James"\rPlant Alliance Banner.\rSidequest: Kill some dinos. (Trash Loa questline) (Includes awkward bug XD)\rHigh Commander --> "Abort rescuing Private James."\rFind Ermey --> Heal Vorrik from poison to find Private James.\r2 quests to make antidote.\r"Don't worry, my people will be happy to aid you in return for your kindness to me."\rFly to Santuary of the Devoted --- <Horde parity begins here, not identical but similar.>\r"Korthek, Sulthis, and Vorrik led in harmony." Sulthis dead, Korthek betrayed.\rVorrik's Key hidden on Private James.\rFend off Faithless attack on Temple.\rFree Private James amidst this (given by Ermey.)\rHey James, check your pockets!\r"Korthek needs stopped!"\rReport to High Commander.\r"You did well in brefriending the local population. This likely won't be the last time we'll have to depend upon them."\r-End of Vol'dun Foothold-\r\rIt's fairly incomplete in that it implies they'll be back later to help the Sethrak out. Alliance will probably be spending some time with Sethrak on a little more personal level than the Horde do, as Horde helping the Sethrak feels more like a byproduct of helping out the Vulpera. My next post will have the Vulpera Hype Caravan's summary of the core Vol'dun questlines, similar to this news post. \r\rhttp:\/\/discord.gg\/VWtmNME

Commentaire de TobiasAmaranth

on 2018-04-12T02:48:38-05:00

Horde's Vol'dun Main Questline (Also available in the Vulpera Hype Caravan, #adventures-of-voldun)

Vol'dun (Collapsing Crevice) -> Nisha firebombs 2 Snek -> Released -> Choose her weapon (Staff\/Kris\/Scimitars) (Needs tested: A choice other than Scimitars) -> Head into battle! (Shows Reckless Vulpera for other players, saw one with a staff.)Emphasis on the first thing you encounter of the zone being bad Snek good Fox-Armed and Ready

Vol'dun (Bwoljin's Fall) -> Head to Vorrik's Sanctum -> "What are vulpera doing here?" -> Meerah's here for some reason -> "Unconventional but Sethraliss would be pleased to protect innocents in need \/ they will be useful allies." -> "I need to meditate, go help the Vulpera for a bit lol" -> Find Nisha -> At the crater killing sethrak, like always, because Nisha, warrior foxie! -> "Kiro's always on the move, working on a big plan" Orly? -> "This is risky, Nisha!" -Kiro, the wuss :P -> "Let's ALWAYS meet in places like this! -Nisha, the Bloodfursty -> Vol'dun (Crater of Conquerors) -> "Kill 'em like Nisha would!" -> Back to camp for a reprieve.-Infiltrating the Empire (Vorrik)-Allies in Anarchy (Vorrik)-The Little Ones (Meerah)-Ready to Riot (Nisha)-Make Them Fear Us (Nisha)-Crater Conquered (Nisha)-Light Up the Gulch (Kiro)

(@ Mods, I can pastebin this if the size of the post is disruptive somehow! :3)

Commentaire de Makorus

on 2018-04-12T04:40:29-05:00

The fact that the Alliance seems to help-help Sethrak while the Horde help-helps the Vulpera and just have to help the Sethrak because of a common goal makes it really obvious that the Sethrak\/Vulpera allied races thing is happening.

Commentaire de Iceman3317

on 2018-04-12T06:23:07-05:00

I don't know about Sethrak being Alliance still. The Horde literally leaves the Vulpera in their main questline. And Vulpera ends up just being a side questline. The Horde seems to team up with the Sethrak far more than Vulpera.

I have to say though, after seeing Sethrak in game, they look awesome and I wouldn't mind having them in the Alliance over Vulpera.

But from what I have seen, both races are neutral, I don't know where people get the Horde helping Vulpera more than the Sethrak, because that just isn't the case.The Sethrak literally stay through the Horde's main storyline there according to what Nobbel did in his video.

We need the Alliance War Campign to tell, which isn't actually out yet I don't think.

Commentaire de Felzane

on 2018-04-12T06:38:46-05:00

Hopefully this means we can later get Sethrak as a playable allied race for the Horde :D\r\rI know everyone wants these playable--I certainly wouldn't mind it, they're cool--but I have a really hard time seeing it due to the odd shape of their heads, of all things. If you can't feasibly stick an existing helmet on it without the model warping beyond recognition, the chances of them being playable seem slim to me. Granted I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath. \r\rWe'll get Vulpera, if anything.

Commentaire de MatheusCalil

on 2018-04-12T06:46:27-05:00

Sethrak for the horde! Go back to kul'tiras and find your own friends alliance!

Commentaire de Iceman3317

on 2018-04-12T06:48:04-05:00

Hopefully this means we can later get Sethrak as a playable allied race for the Horde :D

I know everyone wants these playable--I certainly wouldn't mind it, they're cool--but I have a really hard time seeing it due to the odd shape of their heads, of all things. If you can't feasibly stick an existing helmet on it without the model warping beyond recognition, the chances of them being playable seem slim to me. Granted I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath.

We'll get Vulpera, if anything.

I have to agree, not to mention the only data mined models we have are NPCs only unlike the Vulpera. I am surprised at the lack of involvement that the Vulpera have though. I think another island is going to come out where maybe they were taken from to become slaves and just haven't had a way to return home. Having them form the desert is also extremely odd to me, especially when most foxes live in forest lands, which is why I think they were taken from another island or land.

Perhaps there is another Vulpera race that is more related to the Red\/Artic\/Grey Fox as a counterpart, since the Vulpera or now called Vulduni seem to be based on Fennec Foxes.

Maybe the Vulduni are just a small part of the Vulpera, which is why they changed the name. Maybe they are similar to Dwarves\/Trolls where their race changes based on where they are from.

Commentaire de Drakvul

on 2018-04-12T07:09:36-05:00

I'm not seeing the Alliance get Sethrak from this. It seems like the Horde helps out equally both factions, and the dungeon journal has you, as either faction, resurrect their Loa at the end of the temple. Maybe we'll still get Vulpera but as a new race rather than an Allied Race, or certainly one that can choose their faction similar to Pandaren.

Commentaire de Makorus

on 2018-04-12T07:31:31-05:00

Blizzard said they wont introduce any more neutral races.

Commentaire de cruelmoon

on 2018-04-12T08:01:52-05:00

A neutral race in the middle of a faction war would be terrible. There's a reason why Pandaria was so dumb in terms of faction war. They spent the entire narrative trying too hard to lecture (the Alliance mostly) about how war is bad while the Pandaren had no issues doing the same thing. They just happened to be extremely annoying about it.

Commentaire de Utigarde

on 2018-04-12T08:16:39-05:00

I think Vulpera would make a perfect fit for the Horde, and perhaps a faction of rebel Sethrak can make some deal with the Alliance. We know the Alliance does eventually land in Voldun.\r\rWhile both factions help the sethrak, the Alliance actually save their leader, Vorrik, and develop a friendship with him, unlike the alliance of convenience the Horde\/Vulpera have with him. Their models, while not currently player customizable, are rigged to a modified worgen skeleton, and have bare\/naked versions, which is a lot more than what nightborne and Zandalari had before they became playable. If vulpera do become a Horde allied race, which is looking more likely, sethrak are probably going to be the Alliance counterpart, due to their leader having Alliance leanings just like Thalyssra and Silgryn had Horde leanings.

Commentaire de Iceman3317

on 2018-04-12T08:43:38-05:00

I think Vulpera would make a perfect fit for the Horde, and perhaps a faction of rebel Sethrak can make some deal with the Alliance. We know the Alliance does eventually land in Voldun.\r\rWhile both factions help the sethrak, the Alliance actually save their leader, Vorrik, and develop a friendship with him, unlike the alliance of convenience the Horde\/Vulpera have with him. Their models, while not currently player customizable, are rigged to a modified worgen skeleton, and have bare\/naked versions, which is a lot more than what nightborne and Zandalari had before they became playable. If vulpera do become a Horde allied race, which is looking more likely, sethrak are probably going to be the Alliance counterpart, due to their leader having Alliance leanings just like Thalyssra and Silgryn had Horde leanings.\r\rThank you for explaining this. I wasn't able to find anything about why people were saying Alliance are more friendly with the Sethrak. It will be interesting to see how they deal with this in the future.\r\rBut I still wonder if these races are still too new to actually be considered an Ally Race and not a normal race.

Commentaire de Iceman3317

on 2018-04-12T08:45:25-05:00

Blizzard said they wont introduce any more neutral races.

May I ask where this was said? As far as I am aware, they never said anything like this.

And looking at the Tortollan, I could also easily see being a playable race, but they are neutral. They also said Tuskarr could be a possible allied race and they are also neutral.

Commentaire de MatheusCalil

on 2018-04-12T08:52:33-05:00

I think the alliance helps vorrik only to show how Mythrax was summoned in uldir, since it will be a raid boss. I really want this race go to the horde side, but since there is no female model and it looks like there is no sethrak reputation to either alliance\/horde, i think they will be just npcs :(

Commentaire de Philosophercat

on 2018-04-12T08:52:46-05:00

*sigh* All discussions become about allied races instead of the story nowadays.

Commentaire de Iceman3317

on 2018-04-12T08:58:09-05:00

*sigh* All discussions become about allied races instead of the story nowadays.

I think people are mainly focused on Allied Races because it is the big feature of BFA, The story can change drastically between Alpha and Live. Just like it changed drastically between Beta and Live in WoD and Legion. I think that is why people aren't talking about the story.

Allied races is something that can be speculated about, without worrying about drastic changes that can happen before BFA can go live. And technically, talking about Allied Races is also talking about story and lore. Not to mention it is something that can happen all throughout the life of BFA.

Commentaire de cruelmoon

on 2018-04-12T10:02:17-05:00

By the way, you should emphasize that this post is for the Horde side of the questline. There's an Alliance one that I don't see here. \r\rIt indicates quite a friendly approach towards the Sethrak, and it's even a human who had Vorrik's key, also stating they might make more deals with them in the future. So, Sethrak for Alliance is a clear possibility.\r\r"You did a good job befriending the local populace, we may need their help in the future". <- Alliance text\r\rJust one more thing. I emphasize that Vulpera is much better for the Horde and Sethrak for the Alliance. Plenty of reasons, but here's one: Vulpera on the Alliance would be like "Gnome Worgen", and the faction already has identity issues thanks to the excessive focus on Humans and their "sidekicks", Gnomes and Dwarves, Alliance hardly needs another "short version" of a race that is already there. While Sethrak would feel too much like Trolls already, and there's the hostilities with the Vulpera and their civilized type of race, even Korthek saw them as savages. So, I think it'd be more interesting if this was the case.

Commentaire de sammysamo

on 2018-04-12T10:54:40-05:00

Yeah, the helm issue makes Sethrak seem extremely unlikely to me even though they would be an awesome addition to races. They're so different from what we have now that it seems like too much additional work for the team.