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the cool part is that you can, and no one can tell you otherwise. Even if there really isn't any meaning to life, no one can prove it or make you believe. The reality is that everyone believes what they want. Mind you, some people want to believe things that make them sad, and thats okay too. Just don't forget that no one can force you to change your beliefs, no matter how "realistic" they are

Why is it that people think that just because they like the idea of something, it becomes true? I would like to think that a beautiful elf with big titties and a juicy ass would come give me a blowjob, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. Life has no more meaning than what you give to it.

Your mind can generate meaning from a meaningless universe. Humans can generate religion and selfdeception. Humans can generally create something that would count as more than enjoying the time we have. So, in what way do you mean 'more'?

Man you hold up in there little nig
Things WILL get better soon, and trust me when I say you'll be happy when they do.
Now put on a smile, force a smile and get on with your life. pretend to be happy so long you begin to feel happy.
When that happens, you'll have increased your perception by 1, and will see the good in the world.

hey bro. It's okay to be sad. Just try to start changing. I've been pretty down lately to. But I'm trying to change my life for the better. you can to. now go and cuddle that dog and let him or her know it's loved!

I'm so happy that my FJ Famiry is actually comforting me right now and not calling me a faggot.
Thanks so much, guys. FJ really is my salvation whenever I get upset. Always at least one thing to laugh at

presidentmoose, stay strong man. i've been there, we've all been there. and i know how stupid it sounds, but things really do get better. it's like the universe is testing you right now to see if you deserve the joy of life! so stick with it, and life will be better in time

I bet if I actually did, because you promped me to, you'd feel like **** .
Because you're such an emotional little cunt, aren't you? Why am I even asking? Seeing how flared up you got over my opening remark, I can tell that you are.
Silly little cunt-nugget. Nobody cares about you. Go away.

I agree with you but not because parenting is nothing to be proud of, because it is. people need to realize that raising the next generation to be greater then the last is nearly impossible seeing as how we have a saying "history repeats itself". but i agree with you only in the sense that while one could cherish their parenthood to that extent, it isnt something that one's kids should know. idk how to explain exactly, seeing as this is coming from personal experience, but it puts tremendous pressure on kids to not disappoint parents when they know that their whole lives literally is the only thing keeping their loved ones happy.

The value of something is entirely subjective. When you say that something is unimportant, there will always be someone out there willing to vigorously argue against you, and its not like what you put meaning in is actually meaningful. Meaning is, once again, entirely subjective. When you say to someone "Basing your life around reproduction and the success of your offspring, is a ****** ******* thing to do.", you could put literally anything in place of "reproduction" and the sentence would be equally valid; that is not valid at all.

"Basing your life around scientific ingenuity and the advancement of the human race , is a ****** ******* thing to do."

Yes. I can totally see how "reproduction" is interchangeable with literally anything, and that that is totally valid.

While I agree that the value of something is indeed subjective, I must say that there is objective value to be found also. I would make the arguement that something like humanitarian work or the advancement of science, is a million times more important than something as base as reproduction. As I said, anyone with a functioning dick/vagina can reproduce. It dosen't take anything other than a single willing participant to do that.
The harder, more difficult or rare something is, the more important it must nessesarily be. We allready have more than enough people here on earth. To add +1 to the number of people allready clustered here on this globe, isn't something to take pride. If I was being really cynical, I'd almost make the arguement that its something to be ashamed of, objectively speaking.

"The harder, more difficult or rare something is, the more important it necessarily must be."
Punching the Sun would be immensely difficult, but it's still a huge waste of time. In addition, kindly off yourself. We don't need any more people willing to sacrifice others for the great god Science.

If somebody actually figured out a way to actually punch the sun, getting physically close enough without being burned up, to literally and physically punch the sun, then that would be immensely important and a feat akin to the moonlanding. A bad eksample, although I get your point. I dont agree with it, but I get it.

Did I ever say I was willing to sacrifice other people in the name of science? No. All I said was that the pursuit of scientific advancement is a more worthwhile one, than mere reproduction. And btw, what the **** do you mean by "anymore"? Are you implying society is overflowing with people willing to sacrifice people in the name of science??

I mean that you sound like the kind of person who zealously puts Almighty Science above everything else at all times and in all situations, no matter the cost. The kind who thinks animal testing is wrong because we should be testing things on criminals instead. Basically the kind of person who would love a job at Aperture labs. While I certainly support science, I don't think we need any of those people, let alone another one, and considering how cuntishly you reacted to a new parent sharing the joy of having a son, I think you are one of them.

I think you're getting "enjoys science" confused with " ******* insane". Have you ever actually met anyone who thinks testing stuff on criminals are opposed to animals is a good idea? Thats a bloody stupid idea, and only a damn tosser would actually propose that.
And dude, this is a public space. If you express an opinion in a public, you have to ready to face a contradictory opinion, regardless of what you say. Even if all you say is "I think the holocaust was terrible" I can assure you, somebody will see that and go "The holocaust was terrible?! **** no it wasn't! This person needs to be told whats what!". I didn't agree with the opinion that that dad expressed, and so I told him.
Funny thing is, he has not replied here. Its all just you and a bunch of other folk being offended on his behalf.
Unless you sincerely believe that reproduction is such an honorable and worthwhile pursuit, that the fact that I dont think so, merits that I kill myself, I think you need to shut the hell up and **** off. If he is offended at me, I believe he is capable of telling me himself.

I didn't want to have to say this, but you're right. Telling you to kill yourself was uncalled for, and I apologize. Just do everyone a favor and be less of an asshole, okay? Why do you think it's okay to berate someone for enjoying being a parent?

Well, I conciede the point that the way I phrased it might've been alittle rude. Eh, alright. Alot rude. I should've probably expressed it in a less offensive manner, than to sugest the death of his child to be amusing...
Its not that I need to berate him for it, neither do I think he isn't allowed to be happy.
I just dont think the act of reproduction is as great or important as such an exclamation would warrent. From where I'm seeing it, he is essentially shouting out in a public space "I'M A PARENT AND ITS THE GREATEST THING EVER!!". If somebody did that, you'd at the very least inform him that he was wrong, if you thought he were wrong, which I do.

As I said above, if you express an opinion in a public space, you should expect for somebody to tell you you're wrong. I should've just informed of it in a less rude manner, is all.

I'm joking, comrade. I may disagree with you, but you're entitled to any opinion you like.
I wouldn't say it's always the most important thing, but you can't have anything else without first reproducing. Humanitarian things help people, science educates them, industry equips people, but reproduction makes the people who are then helped, educated, equipped, etc. My issue was more the way you handled it, which is resolved now.

I guess you are joking, but I'll just say this. It is up to you if you want to believe there is a meaning with life or not. Since nobody can know for sure, is there currently no wrong or right answer, just personal opinions.

The neutral startingpoint must still be that there is no meaning, if you know something else about our existence, please feel free to present your grandeur repetoire of evidence claiming there is an overall scheme or point to our existence.

If one was to assert what must be considered a very unlikely hypothesis, such as a supernatural meaning to life, to be 50/50 with the neutral standing point, you will end up with ridiculing arguments like the spaghetti monster vs god etc.

People really ought to understand some rather basic concepts, such as burden of proof.

Honestly I don't care whatever someone choose to belief there is a meaning with life or not, as long as they don't harm anyone. If someone need a meaning with life to get the motivation to carry on, I will not take it away. Personally I am not religious, I choose to belief that I can make my own meaning with my own life, witch is friends family and love I know it is cheesy but that is what makes me happy and give me reason the meaning of life don't have to be something grand, it can just be the reason for why I, as a person is here and don't choose to end my life, because there is no meaning. Anyway that is just how I see it, there is no truth answer, there can be as many as there are people

I used mildly above average day to day english.. stating that people should have to prove their claims or with a bare mininum rationalize it, rather than expect people to believe them despite their lack of evidence or reason.

I fail to see where the pseudo-philosophical arrogance in is this, insensible maybe... But this is logic.

>please feel free to present your grandeur repetoire of evidence claiming there is an overall scheme or point to our existence
>being this euphoric
>*repertoire
but asides from that, you seem to insinuate that the worshiping of gods, particularly religions that humans have conceived, is the only meaning to life. This is not accounting for countless other ******* factors that could point to life having purpose. This is not factoring in how god damn dumb your original comment was.
Do you even know what you mean by neutral starting point, because you didn't make any effort at all to explain it. There's so much wrong with what you said I literally cannot even formulate myself.
There's the fact you put no room for compromise in the two sentences you wrote about the entire point of existing in this universe. There's the fact you simply snarkily write off any other answer "If one was to assert what must be considered a very unlikely hypothesis" while so ******* obviously not looking into the matter of meaning of life to be this conceited and ignorant to various philosophies formulated by people over thousands of years who were so much more ******* intelligent than you I assume that you literally look retarded.
There's the fact that, while limiting yourself to only religion as a life purpose, you continue to limit yourself further and not even humble yourself to the fact that humans don't know jack **** about the universe and that any unknown universal power could be at play, so vastly far above comprehension of the human mind it's ridiculous. That's the main reason I'm so disgusted by you, I can't stand how full of ourselves humans are. We're an amazingly intelligent species, I have mainly nothing but admiration for us, but we act like the universe has to act to the parameters of our conceptualization and that's why **** you, man.

lol.
Thought about how everything ever was predetermined the very moment everything began, and how we're bits of complex information, bumping around with other bits of information, that kind of thing? Cause i found an entire post about this.
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Don't waste yer time, kid

Ah, the utter hypocrisy of the funnyjunk people(not every one). If she had started saying the reason for life is a test from say, God, or any other religious thing the comments would be filled with "stupid bitch let him make his own decisions, ******* indoctrinating Christians." and then thumbed down into oblivion (again, not every one). Well she's doing exactly that, just with a different point of view, just because it happens to be your own doesn't mean it's not forcing a kid to believe what you believe. Instead 100+ people are content with labeling this preachy clap-trap as "funny"

Can we call it indoctrination when it's the truth? Or would you prefer a gentler lie? Should we stop educating our children that murder is wrong? After all, it's only what we believe. The same way I can't force you to stop lying to yourself, I can't teach lies to another person. Everyone deserves to hear the truth, no matter how painful it is. Life is about finding meaning. I find meaning in learning new things and understanding the world. But it wouldn't be fair to push that on a child. In the same way, it isn't fair to tell your kids that a magic man in the sky should be where you derive meaning from. It is easier to see the beauty of the world through your own eyes than through the eyes of your teacher. Especially when your teacher is blind.

The big problem is not religious beliefs, but religion itself. Believe whatever you want, I don't give a **** . But as soon as it gets organised, I have a problem with it. Your spiritual beliefs should be a thing for yourself. Do share your opinions and beliefs with others, but don't organise.

And another thing. We often see religions actually indoctrinating people and not letting them form their own opinions. Some atheists/agnostics also do this, but it is much more widespread.
Besides, the OP shares the viewpoint of a lot of people on here, so of course it's not going to get attacked in the same way that religion would. If it was religious in nature (it's not), it would be seen as religious propaganda by many, and people don't take kindly to that. In both cases it does nothing but share a viewpoint, but people have gotten so used to religious propaganda that anything promoting religion is seen as propaganda by many.

Personally I do think we all have a purpose in life, but the key is that there's no point trying to figure out what said purpose is. Like the comic said, enjoy life, be kind to others, and pursue your own happiness. From there your purpose will just fall into place on it's own.

I wonder what the **** is so special about that purpose, that it gives more meaning than x & y. Emotion can be traced to a mix of hormones and electrical signals- rather superficial and disappointing for something we place such importance on. Our precious feelings, fundamentally, are little different from a computer's countless 1s and 0s.

But that's not going to stop me. I'm not going to be a deadbeat just to satisfy some idea of superiority/nobility.

Let me do a lil' bit of philosophical extrapolation on what you just said.

Premise 1. There is a purpose to life and it's irrelevant.
Premise 2. There are no things with 'why' explanations that cannot be relevant. I.e. the following conversation makes no sense:

Guy 1: Oh hey, why is evolution a thing? That is, why do things self-propagate and net-result in the creation of more things like them after being selected by an environment? I don't want a 'how' answer like "they do."
Guy 2: Well, you see my good friend Guy1, there is an answer to that question which explains the metaphysical purpose of self-propagation, but it isn't relevant to your life.
Guy 1: But... but... bro, I literally just made it relevant to my life by asking about it.
Guy 2: Nah broserf. There's a metaphysical why explanation, but it'll always be irrelevant.

-- end of conversation --

Conclusion: Premise 1 is nonsensical.

If you cannot name the why/purpose, identify it, and make it relevant, there is no point to positing its existence.

Otherwise, you're basically saying:
1) There is a purpose and it's not relevant.
2) But secretly, in my times of sadness I remind myself that there's a purpose to it all and I use that to bring relevancy to my life.

I never said it wasn't relevant. What I am saying is that constantly wondering what your purpose is isn't going to get you any closer to answering that question. Only by going out there and participating in life will you eventually figure it out. It'll just kind of fall into place without you even realizing it, until one day you look back on what you've done and realize 'oh, that's what it was'.

honestly, when referring to beliefs, it all can be simplified to your favorite color. Why do you like that color? Its my favorite. "No red is the best color because it is right" Even if you say that I still like my color better. and does it really matter what color I like? It seems to me that you just don't like it when people disagree with you, but everyone has a right to their own opinion, and quite frankly if everyone had the same opinion, it would be kinda boring dontcha think

I am not upset that people disagree with me. Without doubt and questions and different opinions no ideas would ever be tested and everything would be boring and unchanging. Everyone has the unquestionable right to their own opinion andjJust like OP put his in the comic, i stated mine in the comments. Das all. my favorite color is orange

My message was actually intended for those who would seek to disprove your opinions. I didn't know if you needed support but I wanted to assure you that everyone has their opinions and that there really isn't a good reason for trying to prove someone elses opinion wrong. My favorite color is green but I like orange as well

Live a full good and honest life where you do not strive to achieve your own pleasures. Instead make others happy and find your own fulfillment in that. Then rage hard in the afterlife. I can't take you seriously with that fedora picture I don't actually know the meaning of life, best guess?

I consider myself a christian. Why? Because it's convenient.
I like to find comfort in the fact that if I do my best to help others and make other people happy, then I will be rewarded with peace and paradise.

Yes, maybe nothing happens when we die, evidence points toward there being no god, or godlike deity for that matter, however, if I think like that, how can I wake up in the morning and feel like going to work?
How can I find the energy and motivation to give my coworkers a smile, even though I don't enjoy their company?
How can I find the strength to muscle through a work day, and then find time to enjoy some time with my family and friends?

If I see no reward, then I see no reason. If I see no reason, why do I even want to live?

I've been in the black hole, I've had depressions, and honestly, when I gave myself a reason to wake up in the morning, things slowly started take a turn for the better.

Yes, life is a temporary pleasure, but I like to think that if I share that temporary pleasure with others, then maybe I'll recieve comfort beyond life.

TL;DR I'm a christian who tries to make life less **** so that I might get no **** after death.

there's this buddhist story in which an old chinese emperor asked a boddhisatva "i created hundreds of temples. I honored Buddha, obeyed anything written from you boddhisatvas. Will i get into heaven?"
the boddhisatva answered "none of that even mattered"

I'm no theologist, but if you do things for nothing but reward it probably doesn't help your case

Nobody knows what we will find after the death, that¡s why we have to enjoy the time we are spending in this world doing what we love.

My main interest are animals (i like anime and videogames aswell, but these are hobbies/pastimes, not my real passion). I want to become a vet or biologist. But if I don't get to study these careers, does that mean i have lost my reasons to live and i will commit suicide?. No. I will find other paths of doing what i like.

I'm sure that you are still young and have many years of life left. Do what you like on your freetime and you will find a reason to wake up every day.

I'm atheist, but i try to make people happy too. Not because i expect reward after death, but because it is the ethics i have chosen and i want to follow.

im depressed because i suck at alot and i know im going to be a loser no matter how hard i try (i still try) also i just like sitting behind my computer instead of living a life; and yes i have friends and did fun things, but all the pain and hassle to live a live that has been lived a thousand times doesnt make it worth it.

I think you are wrong. thousands of people see London, but its still a nice city. And whats wrong to enjoy sitting behind a pc? Who say youre life has to be another? as long as you have fun with that and can live with it, and no one is harmed, its all fine. If you like to change something in a few years do it, but till this, enjoy the time behind youre pc. And it don´t matter if you can something super, only because you want to be better, I bet someone can do it always better. Be good in something you like, because you like it. Sometime its only that you are a good friend. Sorry for the long text.

i wanted to change all my life, i keep believing my own lies. every night i lie in bed i think ''tomorrow is going to change me'' and from the inside i know its not true. and im hurting myself by being such a lifeless lazy **** .

ummmm..... gonna put myself out there and say its not the polar opposite of nihilism, She definitely says "life is meaningless" in like the third panel and that is the operating definition of existential nihilism

mmmmmm..... not really....
"Existential nihilism begins with the notion that the world is without meaning or purpose. Given this circumstance, existence itself–all action, suffering, and feeling–is ultimately senseless and empty." www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/
"Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
"Existential Nihilism embraces the notion that the world lacks meaning or purpose. All existence itself -- actions, suffering, feelings -- is senseless, nothingness."
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“Existentialism”, therefore, may be defined as the philosophical theory which holds that a further set of categories, governed by the norm of authenticity, is necessary to grasp human existence. To approach existentialism in this categorial way may seem to conceal what is often taken to be its “heart” (Kaufmann 1968:12)," plato.stanford.edu/entries/existentialism/

The comic is far from saying that life is "ultimately senseless nothingness", and the norm of authenticity is exactly what the mother in the comic presents to her son. She is not telling him there is an intrinsic value to life and thus there is a reason to live it. Her point is: notwithstanding the inherent absurdity of it all, there is still a reason to enjoy life.

Existential nihilism holds as truth that: the concepts of meaning and value are false, there is no inherent meaning in the universe (shared with existentialism), the pursuit of meaning has no meaning in itself, there is no meaning to create by human means (what the comic argues AGAINST, you ******* retarded piece of **** ), and that there is no possible resolution to the human desire to discover meaning.

dude, smoke some weed you are getting way too freaked out about this. I totally thought we could have an intelligent conversation about this citations and all that **** , but guess not. and bro she says its meaningless in the first part and she doesn't change anything later on, she just says "yeah its meaningless and nothing has any meaning but hey we can still party it up!" that's a nihilist mindset bro.

How can we have an intelligent conversation if you don't even read my replies?

Maybe are you too high to read properly?

Yes, meaninglessness of life is an important concept in nihilism. I know. I agree. It is also an important concept in existential atheism, existential theism and Absurdism. The comic is not nihilistic; it is atheist existentialism.

The mother puts some sort of meaning into pleasure and happiness (vs death aka the end of pleasure and happiness) which is simply impossible in a nihilistic mindset. Nihilists believe there is no meaning at all, and mostly believe life is unworthy of being lived because of this. Remember all the things she tells him about being nice, teaching someone something, etc. All these things have value and meaning for her and she wants to transmit this to her son.

This is NOT nihilism. It is actually--dare I say it?--the polar opposite of nihilism, for there is in her worldview the concept of meaning and value.

hmmm.. I think it is different opinion on how we each interpreted the comic. Yes from what you say you are right. The message of the comic would be the near opposite of nihilism and a paragon example of existentialism (crafting meaning out of an otherwise meaningless universe).
But I think (personal interpretation) that at the end the girl says all this fun stuff they can do in the universe to bide their time until death. But it still seems meaningless to me because if nothing is meaningful, how can you craft something (meaningfulness) from nothing. Ergo nihilism.

Morality does not exist inherently in the universe, but we create it. Same with beauty. Our thoughts and consciousness are how meaningless things gain value.

If you only now have realized that there is a discrepancy between our interpretations, you should probably check yourself in some sort of place where you could become less retarded. A school perhaps? A college?

What we are trying to do by arguing--also what people generally try to do while arguing--is come to an understanding upon who exactly is right. Surely between our two interpretations one must be more correct.

Maybe you'd prefer to hide between the veil of subjectivity (aka "I'm entitled to my opinion and you shouldn't criticize it, for I like to be right."). Yeah, didn't think so.

Your interpretation ignores an important part of the comic--the one I mentioned in my penultimate comment, and you also ignore her metaphor for life (the doughnut), which is, yet again, a symbol for projected meaning.

dude let me know when you start having sex. Release some of that pent up anger you will be a much happier and much more agreeable person. And I take offense to the retard comment. really, you wound me with your words. I assure you I go to only the most accredited of colleges!
I do have to say though, as far as the doughnut comment goes projected meaning != actual meaning. If there is no meaning at all and we are all meaningless, we can't just "poof" and make something meaningful. I would love to hear your rebuttal about that though. I am enjoying this, it appears as though you are not however

You should be happy to know that I have intercourse at a rather frequent rate. Not because I have a girlfriend, but because my suave linguistic/conversational skills and charm allows me to make good friends with women and have occasional sex with them. All in all, I have to admit sex is not what I like most about love. I prefer intimacy. I like to feel loved and this is one of the longings inherent to the human condition I have thought and written most about. Maybe if I found myself a permanent girlfriend I would be happier. I guess that is the truth.

Now we have skimmed through and over my sexual life in a debate over the nature of the existential comment in a rather philistine comic.

I do not know why you would take offense in that "retard" comment. It is obviously an insult and not the truth. How you can take offense in something false is beyond my ability to comprehend.

We ascribe meaning to things. I won't repeat myself again because I've said it in my last comment. It's not just "poof". It's the wonders of our consciousnesses.

yes but our consciousness is nothing but a series of chemical signals resulting in an illusion of "self" These chemicals can't give something any more meaning than a rock can. Sure we might see it as meaningful in our own eyes but that is just because millions of years of evolution have hardwired our brain chemistry to do so because it was beneficial to survival and reproduction. There is no actual meaning, just chemical reactions.

I agree with you, friend, but understand that you are projecting your own views on the comic instead of giving its content a fair interpretation.

Also, these chemicals create something we are not entirely capable of understanding yet. If you can't comprehend the difference between a consciousness and a rock, then we have to leave it at that. It is of my understanding that anyone possessing a consciousness and capable of making interpretations of "right vs wrong", "good vs bad" and "beautiful vs ugly" (this goes notwithstanding the instinctual interpretations of sentience (aka "pleasure vs pain")) is also capable of seeing the self as something more than chemical reactions.

Also, the fact that these chemical reactions can, at some point, create something as complex as a fugue or complex dramatic plot seems to suggest that there is something more to them. My point is: I've yet to see a rock with Mozartian capabilities.