Allot of people who have been running their mouths about how bad the Raiders look because Palmer has thrown 2 picks in preseason seem to be not saying nothing tonight because the other AFC West teams played like crap too.

Manning has thrown 2 more picks tonight and Rivers threw 2 picks tonight and the Chiefs got whipped like a whipping boy.

Raiders will be fighting for the division again and hopefully the defense can show up when we need them to clinch the division this year.

But it's ok for Manning to throw interceptions because he's PEYTON MANNING
I'm not worried at all, we will be better this year than we were last year, our defense already looks much improved, we'll be fine guys._________________

I disagree, he has a point. But it's perfectly fine to discuss some of the valid concerns there are with this team. Does it mean our season is over? Of course not, every team in our division has as much holes as we do. At the same time though, I haven't seen anything yet that should spark any major over reactions._________________O A K L A N D R A I D E R S

I told myself to limit my posts during preseason bc after all it is just preseason. I hate seeing the Chicken Little's of the forum wetting their panties and what not so much(You know who you are). It's aggravating, and I try to stay away from it. This thread is needed. From the "cut the project QB!" talk all the way down to the "DHB is complete garbage. Someone get me my tampons!" talk, I'd like to come to a spot where the cool heads reside.
It's just preseason Chicken Little. Relax._________________

I told myself to limit my posts during preseason bc after all it is just preseason. I hate seeing the Chicken Little's of the forum wetting their panties and what not so much(You know who you are). It's aggravating, and I try to stay away from it. This thread is needed. From the "cut the project QB!" talk all the way down to the "DHB is complete garbage. Someone get me my tampons!" talk, I'd like to come to a spot where the cool heads reside.
It's just preseason Chicken Little. Relax.

This is the official cool head thread we can chill here during games lol_________________O A K L A N D R A I D E R S

Allot of people who have been running their mouths about how bad the Raiders look because Palmer has thrown 2 picks in preseason seem to be not saying nothing tonight because the other AFC West teams played like crap too.

Manning has thrown 2 more picks tonight and Rivers threw 2 picks tonight and the Chiefs got whipped like a whipping boy.

Raiders will be fighting for the division again and hopefully the defense can show up when we need them to clinch the division this year.

I'm not panicking but I am a bit confused by the premise of your argument. Are you suggesting that the Raiders look bad but we have nothing to fear because he rest of the division is terrible? Would that be like deriving confidence from being an ugly man at a party full of ugly men?

No thanks. I'd rather just cling to a shred of hope that the offense is sand bagging._________________

Nodisrespect wrote:

(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

Bonez wrote:

Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly

Allot of people who have been running their mouths about how bad the Raiders look because Palmer has thrown 2 picks in preseason seem to be not saying nothing tonight because the other AFC West teams played like crap too.

Manning has thrown 2 more picks tonight and Rivers threw 2 picks tonight and the Chiefs got whipped like a whipping boy.

Raiders will be fighting for the division again and hopefully the defense can show up when we need them to clinch the division this year.

I'm not panicking but I am a bit confused by the premise of your argument. Are you suggesting that the Raiders look bad but we have nothing to fear because he rest of the division is terrible? Would that be like deriving confidence from being an ugly man at a party full of ugly men?

No thanks. I'd rather just cling to a shred of hope that the offense is sand bagging.

The Raiders haven't played great but lets be honest the Packers, Saints, Pats and even the Giants haven't looked great its hard to tell with preseason because you go from starters to second string and so on, when in regular season its starters and guys who rotate there is no first and second.

Allot of people who have been running their mouths about how bad the Raiders look because Palmer has thrown 2 picks in preseason seem to be not saying nothing tonight because the other AFC West teams played like crap too.

Manning has thrown 2 more picks tonight and Rivers threw 2 picks tonight and the Chiefs got whipped like a whipping boy.

Raiders will be fighting for the division again and hopefully the defense can show up when we need them to clinch the division this year.

I'm not panicking but I am a bit confused by the premise of your argument. Are you suggesting that the Raiders look bad but we have nothing to fear because he rest of the division is terrible? Would that be like deriving confidence from being an ugly man at a party full of ugly men?

No thanks. I'd rather just cling to a shred of hope that the offense is sand bagging.

What he's saying is that just like every other team, there's going to be mistakes made and there's going to be expected growing pains. Don't get discouraged so easily._________________O A K L A N D R A I D E R S

People just don't get it. Nobody would care about Palmer throwing picks if he didn't throw 13 in 7 games last year. Nobody would care about knapp play calling if we haven't seen it suck before. Nobody would care about barnes and Barksdale looking bad if they haven't look bad before. I hate this compairing us to other teams and other qb garbage. Just like jets fans should be concern about their offense, Sanchez, and tebow. Cause it has all sucked recently when it matter not just this preseason. Why should we take comfort is other teams doing bad or other qbs doing bad.

People just don't get it. Nobody would care about Palmer throwing picks if he didn't throw 13 in 7 games last year. Nobody would care about knapp play calling if we haven't seen it suck before. Nobody would care about barnes and Barksdale looking bad if they haven't look bad before. I hate this compairing us to other teams and other qb garbage. Just like jets fans should be concern about their offense, Sanchez, and tebow. Cause it has all sucked recently when it matter not just this preseason. Why should we take comfort is other teams doing bad or other qbs doing bad.

Barnes doesn't look bad though. He's just trying to keep people optimistic. No harm done. Noone said don't be concerned, he's just saying not to make claims or jump to conclusions after 2 pre season games. Again, Knapps play calling is really yet to be seen. Can it suck in the regular season? Yes. But not only will we have our best players in for more than a quarter, he can mix it up a bit and he'll have a lot more plays to choose from._________________O A K L A N D R A I D E R S