IRC #olimex 2018-01-14

[08:25:56]<xcko> codefree: I'm not sure, but you could check out the git repo on github to find out: github.com/olimex/diy-laptop [08:27:42]<codefree> xcko: i found out the reason 3.10 is used is because build is dependent on proprietary, GPL violating blobs Allwinner released for 3.10 kernel [08:28:37]<codefree> though (ignoring for the moment the bootloader) I believe there is actually only one of the blobs in the TERES-1 linux-a64 tree [08:29:16]<codefree> libschw blob [08:29:50]<codefree> perhaps that blob will work in a 3.16 kernel, not sure [08:32:55]<xcko> well, going off of the sunxi page for the a64, there are several more: https://linux-sunxi.org/A64 [09:12:27]<codefree> xcko: I did see that page, but I could only find one of those five binaries in the olimex linux-a64 tree [09:13:32]<onre> isn't the process roughly like this: first you get something working with a bunch of OEM blobs and then, in due time, community will write open-source equivalents of those blobs, one by one [09:13:46]<onre> ("will" as in "it probably happens sooner or later") [09:17:24]<xcko> It seems that way. I wish I was a proficient enough developer to contribute to that work [09:28:54]<codefree> onre: leastways, until the next release of hardware with a new hardware revision and a new round of blobs [09:30:52]<onre> indeed [09:31:37]<onre> I first hit this phenomenon in 2005 [09:31:57]<onre> in my naivete I tried hard to contact the OEM as they said in the manual that "all source code will be made availale at ftp.whatever.com" [09:32:06]<onre> never happened, also they were really bad at answering phone [09:32:48]<codefree> yeah, if you define source code to mean: binary blobs without source code [09:33:04]<onre> well these guys never made either available [09:33:05]<codefree> a recursive contradiction! [09:33:27]<onre> I had to use their kernel as the base for my OS image [09:33:58]<onre> can't remember the manufacturer name anymore, they were from Taiwan. the device was a handheld computer with barcode scanner etc, meant for usage in shipping terminals [09:36:00]<codefree> goodnight all, off to bed [11:46:01]<dddddd> hi [19:20:39]<dddddd> jo0nas, now that I got the ubuntu image, I can see DT files in the first partition too, inside a64/ [19:34:45]<dddddd> Almost the same as a64-teres.dts in the github repo. Only diff (apart from a couple of whitespace changes, and the name!) is: [19:35:06]<dddddd> - pmu_battery_cap = <0x251c>; [19:35:06]<dddddd> + pmu_battery_cap = <0x1b58>; [20:40:36]<adj__> hi, anyone here running the mainline NAND driver with MLC chips? [20:42:28]<adj__> specially on the A20-OLinuXino-LIME2-n8GB