I am really new to this all. I have decided on the rifle I would like to have the decisions were made through a few compromises but mostly out of just personal want. The rifle will be a work in progress but starting with a remington 700sps varmit gun in .308. I plan to use a McMillen A5 stock and by pod intially I would like to get a scope worthy of the gun yet one I can practice with as well. I am looking for a mildot scope. I enjoy the game of judging distances and conditions as I also shoot 3d archery. money will be tight now in the begining and probably wont get to shoot beyond 500 yds much anytime soon. I will probably be fighting darkness some as well the gun may eve find ocasional use as a dear rifle. ( i know its heavy and over kill; Im a big boy and it wont be that often). This gets me to two scopes the super sniper and the millet unfortunately I will probably have to order before I can look through one. The super sniper gets great reviews here and the millet being 50mm and illuminated are tempting. Second part is base and rings It appears I will most likely want a 20moa base to go long distences and I have seen a set of rings that were one piece and conected below the scope (badge or Burris maybe). Like I said before would like to keep the budget reasonable and wanting to know if the badger price is really justified. in the end I would like a night force scope but will need to save more and my abilities will not yet match that equipment I would rather put the money into smith work.

Both scopes have enough elevation you will not need the 20 moa base until you go way past 500 yards. The big thing is the super sniper is a fixed power the Millett TRS-1 is a 4 to 16 variable. The variable would probably be more usable for hunting.

Both scopes have enough elevation you will not need the 20 moa base until you go way past 500 yards. The big thing is the super sniper is a fixed power the Millett TRS-1 is a 4 to 16 variable. The variable would probably be more usable for hunting.

Duce

+2 for hunting but I know the SS is a very well built scope for the price with nice clear glass.

Some will say Badger isn't worth the money, I disagree. badger mounts and bases are bomb-proof, I've never had one fail and never seen one fail. If this is a build that will improve with time, I'd spend the money up-front on good mounts and be done. With that, you can spend money elsewhere as you move along.

In truth, both of my Remington PSSs shoot very, very well. Buying a rifle is "luck of the draw", yours might be sub-MOA out of the box, maybe not. Don't be too quick to take it to a smith to make it more accurate, it might well be more accurate out of the box than you.

If you are new to long-range (and/or new to rifles shooting), spend some time at the 100 yard line; there, you can learn the basics and get some confidence. In this game, it is all about confidence - both in your ability and in your rifle.

When sub-MOA groups get boring at 100 yards, move out to 200, then 300, and out to 500.

As for the scope, Duce is right, Millett will be better for hunting, but the SS is a great scope.

I was thinking the IOR 6x42 would be a good scope to go with and I think I would buy the rifle the rings and base and scope put them together and see how it does before I did anything else like add a stock. Mc Millan stocks are rather expensive. If you could handle the cost the best route would be to buy a custom gun from GAPrecision. I will also note that eaven sightron 3-9x40 S1 comes with a mil dot and could be a make do scope for a while that would give you time to save up for better glass. I think the fixed 10X is a bit much for hunting but it can be done. There is much to be said for a fixed 6x42 relatively compact in size and super bright, the 4-16 can certainly be dialed down to 6x as it gets dark though so a variable does have some added benefit but may not be quite as tough as a fixed power. I have had really good luck with Savage 10FP being very good shooting sub MOA guns and they do make one both with McMillan stock or HS Precision stock right out of the factory at very reasonable prices though much in demand and a tad hard to find.

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