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Wednesday, August 17, 2005

21. THE DOOM CHRONICLES

To help you answer that nagging question, "Do peak oilers really want a die-off to happen", I've sampled some candid comments from peakoil.com, one of the web's premier doom cesspools:

"I think the only way to mitigate a huge natural die-off would be mass murder via nuclear, chemical, or boilogical weapons. I believe that this would be a more merciful way to go than mass starvation."PhilBiker 10/14/2004

"Before Matt's aging parents go into the thermal depolymerization machine, let's toss the feebleminded in there, and the criminals, and the bankers who promote debt-based money systems, and the politicians who betrayed us, and anybody else who doesn't seem to be worth the cost of his support." Jenab 10/14/2004

"Selective destruction of populated urban areas.First you pepper the area with intoxicating drugs.After the thousands or millions are drugged up, you simply waste 'em with a nuclear weapon. Or a neutron weapon to avoid a mess." benstrider 11-01-2004

"Feed them to dogs.Eat the dogs.Use the pelts.No problem. " NiKfUrY69 11-01-2004

"But remember Peak Oil is mostly positive because it will get rid of the virus know as the modern human race and replace it with a better race of humans." Coolman 11-01-2004

"I always thought of a scenario where the food and supply shortage situation gets too out of hand.The government would actually authorize nuclear euthanizations of mass population areas (LA, NYC, Dallas, etc) to quell the suffering.Kind of like putting a dying horse out of its misery."bentstrider 11-7-2004

"The third world cannot be saved. The best and kindest act is to let it sink beneath the seas and cease prolonging their pain. For our own survival, we must be prepared to take their resources for our own use. It is brutal." Jack 11-12-2004

"It is entirely possible to conclude that a flu pandemic that wipes out e.g. 1/3 of the human population, would be a kinder & gentler die-off than the same numbers as a result of starvation & warfare over dwindling resources." gg3 11-15-2004

"When food becomes per ounce more precious that gold is now, those of you depending upon government will be sucking hind tit plus.Since 4 billion of you need to exit life, maybe you can hold hands together and sing some sort of "Combia" song as you go down.Frankly, I personally will be glad to see you go." Propeller 11-24-2004

"So we are past the point of no return, which suits me just fine since this living being called earth is grossly infected with the fungus, mankind, and is in despatate need of a cure."SilverHair 2004-12-02

"Where people like Hitler have erred was in their methodology (and ideology) for deciding who was slaughtered. I would use much more enlightened and thoughtful criteria to ensure only undesirable genetic stock (about 90% of the population) are destroyed. Intelligence would be the most important consideration." Phil 2005-03-25

Sorry, but the fact that they would joke about genocide, and that they would consider humankind a "cancer" on the Earth is offensive to me. Unchecked corporate excess certainly, but humans in general? That's a blanket slur that is non-productive at best. Fanastizing about the demise of humankind is something that should abhorred, and cast aside into the rubbish bin of hateful ideas throughout our history. We should be working on solutions to maintain a decent quality of life while we wait for the next exotic energy breakthrough (be it fusion, zero-point, highly-efficient solar, etc). All it takes is time and effort.

Some facts and figures into the Peak oil debate at last, beats rhetoric every time! Keep up the good work JD.

I've long since decided PO is being cited as a tool for fascist causes and general overreaction and running to mummy, or for haulage company and airline crocodile tears.

The fact of the matter is it's an ideal subject to just con the masses, get into power, and, if you are an oil company or energy consultant, make lots of money. If you’re on peakoil.com just generally look forward to the demise of your fellow man while allowing yourself the self-satisfied smugness that you have the knowledge and nobody else ‘gets it’, deceptively similar to certain cults and religions and equally mis-guided.

As an ex-moderator at PO.com, I feel the need to express my incredulity at the nonsense trotted out there these days.

I left there back in August 2004. The constant fight against the nutters and the stick-in-the-mud pessimists became too much for me.

If the debate could have centred around the real Peak Oil concept and actual data rather than the die off obession than it could have been a very good site.

Back when this Blog was posted, PeakOil.com was crank central. I've been back to PO.com recently and I can sadly report that things are getting worse there. It's almost as if the whole PO thing is becoming a cult. It doesn't do the genuine scentific and economic effort to solve the actual problems of oil depletion any favours whatsoever. All noise, no signal.

My favorite thing about comments like this is the commenters always assume that THEY will be the ones to survive, and that somehow THEY are deserving, and get to choose who lives and dies.

Their does seem to be a lot of crypto-racist anti-urbanism among the Peak Oil crowd. After following the issue somewhat for the past several months, I'm glad to find something of a voice of reason on the issue (though I do like some of the posts on The Oil Drum if I can just stay out of the depressing self-important comment threads).