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PChttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_eac607ca-b410-4199-8bec-152c62be3507Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:48:24 -0500PChttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/pingback.axdhttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_eac607ca-b410-4199-8bec-152c62be3507http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_eac607ca-b410-4199-8bec-152c62be3507#commenthttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/syndication.axd?post=eac607ca-b410-4199-8bec-152c62be3507Jeffrey Jackson on Unfolding a Mystery: My Investigations into the Baris QuestionYour article revives a line of thought that has crossed my mind on several occasions. I refer to the multiple ancient historical references to the trade of bitumin amulets associated with the ancient relics of Noah's Ark. Since wood is perishable and we may well be dealing with an historical tradtion for Ark remains that could be 2500 years old or even older, my question is...is the place to look for the remains of Noah's ark in disbursed bitumen amulets? I further wonder whether an amulet associated with an important ancient ritual site such as the wrecked remains of an ancient vessel, would it not be likely that some of the amulets would reference the site in their form? I'm an artist not an archeologist but if I were creating an amulet associated to Noah's ark, I would artfully shape its form to reference a boat or an ark. Is their a tradition of such amulets? <br />In a modern sense think of all the trinkets in the shape of La Tour Eiffel you can find pick up on a visit to this Parisian attraction. Would the ancients be that much different from us? If such remains existed in the ancient world as we find mentioned in several ancient historical accounts I would excpect to find boat or ark shaped bitumin amulets. And perhaps such amulets may be the only remains of an ancient wooden vessel given the revages of time.http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_7153f387-aa0e-4462-9994-6827adfbf038
Jeffrey Jacksonhttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_7153f387-aa0e-4462-9994-6827adfbf038Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:56:00 -0500Jeffrey Jacksonhttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/pingback.axdhttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_7153f387-aa0e-4462-9994-6827adfbf038http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2013/08/22/Unfolding-a-Mystery-My-Investigations-into-the-Baris-Question.aspx#id_7153f387-aa0e-4462-9994-6827adfbf038#commenthttp://www.biblearchaeology.org/syndication.axd?post=7153f387-aa0e-4462-9994-6827adfbf038A.D. Riddle on Unfolding a Mystery: My Investigations into the Baris QuestionRick,
I appreciate your work here. It raises some interesting questions. There was one part, however, where I had trouble following your argument. You say, “Nicolaus’ Baris was considered the landing-place of the Ark approximately four centuries prior to Berossus…Baris thus has claim to the greatest antiquity of ANY named site for the Ark’s landing-place.” I do not see how you arrived at this conclusion. Could you enlighten me, please?
A.D.
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A few more thoughts. From the Bible we have descriptive places names like Gibea, Geba, Ramah, Mitzpeh, Hazor, etc. From Urartu, we have descriptive place names like Rusahinili Eidurukai (“Foundation of Rusa in front of Mount Eiduru”). Is there any reason Baris cannot be descriptive?
Do we have any attested writings of Masis or Baris in cuneiform? I am wondering how we can be confident that *cuneiform confusion* explains the name Baris. I do not believe the “principle of parsimony” properly applies to cuneiform writing, and if we do not have attestations of Masis in cuneiform, then we cannot say how the name was or was not written.
Also, the map of Urartu is not entirely accurate. The map appears to be trying to show Urartu at its greatest extent, which would really only apply to about the first half of the 8th century B.C.
Finally, Josephus (citing Nikolas) writes ἔστιν ὑπερ τὴν Μινυάδα.. I wonder if ὑπερ necessarily means “north.”
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