tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post3445131683213389403..comments2017-07-02T13:09:00.844+01:00Comments on A Self-Proclaimed Faroe Islands Ambassador: Media Whale WarfareElin Brimheim Heinesenhttps://plus.google.com/113836092971781281095noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-88169041103793278472015-06-09T05:33:55.852+01:002015-06-09T05:33:55.852+01:00Dear Elin,
I&#39;m wondering if it might be possi...Dear Elin,<br /><br />I&#39;m wondering if it might be possible to compromise. If the reason is really to &quot;put food on the table,&quot; what if activists donate money to put meat on the table...non whale meat...for the fishermen/Faroese people. We can set up a fund. This seems like a logical compromise to me.<br />I personally do not eat any mammals for the reasons you mentioned. I feel they are simply too close in both cognitive and emotional intelligence to humans. Also, eating cows supports global warming.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-17559897424156194422015-05-04T12:36:11.057+01:002015-05-04T12:36:11.057+01:00How do you imagine your meat is procured? By cloni...How do you imagine your meat is procured? By cloning?kaninusferoingushttps://kaninusferoingus.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-58066144580906284652015-04-29T13:27:06.972+01:002015-04-29T13:27:06.972+01:00You haven&#39;t read ONE word from what she wrote....You haven&#39;t read ONE word from what she wrote.<br /><br />PS. Yes, the travel agencies will definitely listen to you, no doubts there. If everybody will base their business on what some people agree or agree not ...kaninusferoingushttps://kaninusferoingus.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-76637584497874052012-11-27T22:14:30.449+00:002012-11-27T22:14:30.449+00:00Australia an UK: Bacterial danger, not chemical
Ca...Australia an UK: Bacterial danger, not chemical<br />Canada: those are killer whales not pilot whales.<br /><br />Read the report she mentioned. It contains all the relevant data from the people who actually did the reasearch (ie. unspoiled).<br />http://setur.fo/fileadmin/user_upload/NVD/Horaldur/Workshop_Report.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-1470314185362124262012-11-13T19:01:29.490+00:002012-11-13T19:01:29.490+00:00Elin
I find your excuses so sad.
We do not breed...Elin<br /><br />I find your excuses so sad.<br /><br />We do not breed Whales of any shape or form to be slaughtered.<br /><br />If the methods used to slaughter cattle were the same as the so called humans of the Faroes<br />there would be mass protests in the uk.<br /><br />Only time will tell when you meet your maker whether what you do is right or wrong<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-23567827369998565792012-11-04T14:27:08.358+00:002012-11-04T14:27:08.358+00:00Fact is, it is totally out of control, those peopl...Fact is, it is totally out of control, those people enjoy killing those innocent animals. No matter how you sugar coat this, this is sensless, cruel, inhumane, that&#39;s it, no negotiation. And btw, pigs, cows, chickens - Natural food source, those people kille 100s of thos whales every year, it is disgusting. And I have seen some of this &quot;fishing&quot;, its cruel no matter how you look at it. I have nothing against you, you were born into that culture, and the fact that you are against killing animals in a cruel way, is heartfelt, but honestly, those people do it like savages, waiting in those whales, and just start killing, oh how 21st century of them, video footage tell the truth. I am not attacking you personally, I&#39;m dissapointed that people just shrug this off, and pretend its humane, and a way of life, well its not. Its is a practice for fun, and a cultural festival, each year apparently. People who hurt the environment and its beings, in this cruel manner, will someday pay a very hurtful price, and it is going to be their own faults. Sad thing...people from around the world, who are against this, will find a way to stop this, don&#39;t mess with nature, NEVER, or suffer the consequences. Killing is another thing, VISCIOUSLY attacking them, THE WAY they are being killed, disgusting, stop argumenting in favor of these people, they don&#39;t deserve any recognition or support. I&#39;m from africa, you don&#39;t see us killing off all our animals &quot;just because its for food, and it is immediately available&quot; bullshit, an argument like that doesn&#39;t even deserve to be listened to. And I don&#39;t give a rats ass about the practice years ago, that was then, this is now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-59214843752348397822012-07-15T13:59:14.642+01:002012-07-15T13:59:14.642+01:00City people- versus country people.
If the pilot ...City people- versus country people. <br />If the pilot whale numbers are healthy - who am i to pass judgement on people continuing to provide food for themselves from their natural environment. <br />Grain growing - kills all kinds of animals - when it is harvested- animals in the fields. <br />I was also very interested in the political process - the communal nature of the hunt and desicion making.Bev Brettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-86364707924416563712012-06-30T06:21:41.170+01:002012-06-30T06:21:41.170+01:00Let&#39;s not exaggerate the facts just to prove a...Let&#39;s not exaggerate the facts just to prove a point. Lets&#39; keep the facts straight here:<br /><br />I have never disputed that Methylmercury, PCB or DDT is poisonous. What I said was: &quot;I find it quite exaggerated when people claim that pilot whale meat and blubber is classified as &quot;toxic waste&quot; in most of the industrialized world. I have not seen any real evidence of this - only people against pilot whaling claim this.&quot; That is: claim that pilot whale meat and blubber is classified as toxic waste (by authorities?) in the industrial world. <br /><br />I&#39;d like someone to show me evidence of these official classifications by authorities in these matters - not just claims from biased organizations.<br /><br />I do not want to be opposed, just to be opposed, but sometimes I just find it hard to believe people who obviously exaggerate or twist facts in order to convince me of this and that. I&#39;m not saying they&#39;re wrong in all their claims, but it is not very convincing when people argue the way some people do, especially if they express a lot of anger and attack me personally. I&#39;d like to keep the discussion as sober and fact based as possible, then I will be much more easily convinced.<br /><br />Note that I&#39;ve also stated in a comment above: &quot;I absolutely acknowledge that a serious problem is developing because of the extensive pollution of our oceans, which likely will put an end to pilot whaling within a reasonable time.&quot; So this shows that I&#39;m not just stubbornly advocating the continuance of pilot whaling.<br /><br />I absolutely acknowledge the fact that scientific studies show that there seems to be a link between cardiovascular disease, diabetes, immune deficiency, Parkinson&#39;s Disease and neurological disorders. But the scientific evidence I&#39;ve seen does not state that the risk is &quot;much greater&quot; as you claim. Studies indicate that there MIGHT BE a correlation between the intake of pilot whale foods and a limited increase in the abnormalities mentioned above in the Faroese population.<br /><br />That&#39;s why health authorities as a precaution recommend that pregnant women, young women planning on being pregnant and young children do not eat pilot whale. But they have also declared that it&#39;s still within safe limits for everyone else to eat pilot whale foods once or twice a month, and this is based on several scientific studies.<br /><br />This report might be relevant for you to read: Risks versus Benefits of Whale and Seal Consumption - Workshop report, 14 January 2011:<br />http://setur.fo/fileadmin/user_upload/NVD/Horaldur/Workshop_Report.pdfElin Brimheim Heinesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-15830471117455934202012-06-30T05:36:51.574+01:002012-06-30T05:36:51.574+01:00I did not read it that way. What I meant to say wa...I did not read it that way. What I meant to say was: &quot;I&#39;m sorry you feel they way you do, but I&#39;m afraid it is not very constructive or productive even using the name of God in your effort to scold me and all the Faroese people.&quot; Sorry for not explaining myself too well.Elin Brimheim Heinesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-86507188338959179222012-06-06T15:36:47.630+01:002012-06-06T15:36:47.630+01:00For Elin
&quot;But I find it quite exaggerated wh...For Elin<br /><br />&quot;But I find it quite exaggerated when people claim that pilot whale meat and blubber is classified as &quot;toxic waste&quot; in most of the industrialized world. &quot;<br /><br />Links from some english speaking industrialized countries for you.<br /><br />Australia<br /><br />O http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/dead-whale-washes-up-on-sunshine-coast-beach/3856938<br /><br />&quot;There&#39;s apparently a bacteria issue with a dead whale, so we&#39;ve engaged a contractor to go down with proper hazard protection gear,&quot; he said.<br /><br /><br /><br />United Kingdom<br /><br />&quot;Health advice has been issued urging people not to touch the corpse or allow dogs to come into contact with it.&quot;<br /><br />&quot;A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said: &quot;Approaching or handling the animal may pose health risks and should not take place without the proper authority and protective measures.&quot;<br /><br />&quot;Whale&#39;s corpse a &#39;health hazard&#39;<br />www.bbc.co.uk<br />A dead sperm whale washed up on a Norfolk beach is set to be removed as people are warned not to touch the corpse.&quot;<br /><br /><br />Canada<br /><br />&quot;The Beluga Whale, a species at the top of the food chain, has such a large quantity of contaminants in its body that dead whales have to be disposed of as hazardous waste. &quot;<br /><br />http://www.glf.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/Gulf/By-The-Sea-Guide/Fjords#protection_ecosystem<br /><br /><br /> http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/education/lessonplans-lecons/whale-epaulard-eng.htm<br /><br />Canada- PCB levels in Killer Whales = Toxic Waste<br /><br />&quot;4. A level above 50 ppm, is considered toxic waste by Canadian guidelines (Source: Oceana). Which killer whale populations are above this level? <br /><br />Answer : Southern resident male and transient male<br /><br />5. In Canada, the action level for PCBs is 2 ppm. This is the amount that is too high for humans to eat food with this level of PCBs. Which killer whale populations are above this level? <br /><br />Answer : AllAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-44461899564570250552012-05-26T18:04:03.780+01:002012-05-26T18:04:03.780+01:00Elin
&quot;I&#39;m sorry you feel they way you d...Elin <br /><br />&quot;I&#39;m sorry you feel they way you do, but I&#39;m afraid it is not very constructive or productive even using God to scold me and all the Faroese people.&quot;<br /><br />I know you can write , but how can you read may God &quot;scold&quot; you when what&#39;s clearly written (twice) is may God &quot;forgive&quot; you ?<br /><br /><br />Wow, just wow , Elin !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-12328668075971143772012-05-26T17:38:27.046+01:002012-05-26T17:38:27.046+01:00&quot;I have not seen any real evidence of this - ...&quot;I have not seen any real evidence of this - only people against pilot whaling claim this. They almost make it seem as if this food is directly poisonous, but there has not been reported one single fatality due to eating pilot whale foods in the Faroes.&quot; <br /><br />1) Methylmercury and PCBs ARE toxic substances and poisonous to humans.(scientific fact)<br /><br />2) Mean concentrations of methylmercury found in Pilot Whale meat is frequently found to contain over the benchmark levels deemed safe for human consumption. Often PCB levels also exceed safety levels.<br /><br />If you can&#39;t add 1 plus 2 and come up with 3 (also scientifically proven), what more can I say other than accumulative low level exposure to methylmercury and PCBs and other POPs found in dolphin /pilotwhale meat doesn&#39;t necessarily kill people, these industrial pollutants, that you admit exist in our environment ( so maybe there&#39;s still hope for your learning skills) has been (scientifically) linked to a much greater risk for cardiovascular disease, diabetes, immune deficiency ,Parkinson&#39;s Disease and most frequently irreversible neurological disorders. You can live a long life with any of the above. Unless all international medical professionals and toxicologists are anti-whalers, of course LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-57362498910769373492012-05-20T05:52:44.064+01:002012-05-20T05:52:44.064+01:00I&#39;d also like to point out that if the Faro pe...I&#39;d also like to point out that if the Faro people came to Canada or America and did what were doing to them they&#39;d be jail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-87915264598071289342012-05-20T04:27:53.499+01:002012-05-20T04:27:53.499+01:00The people are killing for food and its not like t...The people are killing for food and its not like the whale is being shipped off to other countries. They are feeding their country just like america or Canada who slaughter innocent horses,cows,pigs,ducks,ect. I am canadian and I hunt deer and moose I eat almost everything from the animal. The hypocrisy bugs me. How dare other countries frown upon pilot whale killing yet do nothing about the murder they do in there own country. Oh the ignorance. I think the whale killing is less graphic then horses or cows being nail gunned, unconscious skinned. Not to mention dogs or cats who are also eaten.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-50756355686468985912012-05-19T10:25:56.303+01:002012-05-19T10:25:56.303+01:00Elin, I saw your picture on your post. I do not wa...Elin, I saw your picture on your post. I do not want to kill you but I would be willing to eat you, so what do you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-27165457993349905092012-05-11T18:00:32.672+01:002012-05-11T18:00:32.672+01:00Hi Anonymous and Kitten3660,
I&#39;m sorry you fe...Hi Anonymous and Kitten3660,<br /><br />I&#39;m sorry you feel they way you do, but I&#39;m afraid it is not very constructive or productive even using God to scold me and all the Faroese people.<br /><br />As I have stated many times: I do not endorse pilot whaling unconditionally. I would be opposed to pilot whaling if this practice was crueler than other widely accepted ways of slaughtering animals, but I&#39;ve seen pilot whale slaughter (as it is conducted today) and I&#39;ve seen slaughter of livestock animals and I really can&#39;t see it&#39;s crueler. Actually I find it less cruel. So if you think the Faroese need God&#39;s forgiveness, may God forgive all the butchers in this world too.<br /><br />As for the question whether the pilot whale is an endangered species or not - the proper authorities in these matters, which the Faroese answer to, haven&#39;t labeled the Faroese pilot whaling unsustainable. ASCOBANS is not the authority as this organization does not cover Faroese waters. NAMMCO is the proper authority here.<br /><br />That said ... I do think that the Faroese people perhaps sooner than later will give up pilot whaling all by themselves, because THEY decide to stop it. They will not stop because other people protest against pilot whaling. They will stop it IF there is evidence that the pilot whale population is in significant decline, and IF science proves beyond any doubt that pilot whale foods have a significant impact on peoples health. <br /><br />There are no final conclusions yet. Studies indicate that there MIGHT BE a correlation between the intake of pilot whale foods and a limited increase in neurodevelopmental abnormalities in the Faroese population. That&#39;s why health authorities as a precaution recommend that pregnant women, young women planning on being pregnant and young children do not eat pilot whale. But they have also declared that it&#39;s still within safe limits for everyone else to eat pilot whale foods once or twice a month. If the health authorities come to another conclusion, I&#39;m sure that this will be respected.<br /><br />I absolutely acknowledge that a serious problem is developing because of the extensive pollution of our oceans, which likely will put an end to pilot whaling within a reasonable time. But I find it quite exaggerated when people claim that pilot whale meat and blubber is classified as &quot;toxic waste&quot; in most of the industrialized world. I have not seen any real evidence of this - only people against pilot whaling claim this. They almost make it seem as if this food is directly poisonous, but there has not been reported one single fatality due to eating pilot whale foods in the Faroes. <br /><br />Don&#39;t get me wrong. Faroese people take this issue very seriously. They want it to be studied further. People take their own precautions just in case. But as long as both international and local authorities allow the Faroese to continue with practicing pilot whaling, they feel they have the right to decide for themselves what to do. The Faroese have every reason to believe that their practice of pilot whaling is done in a care-taking, sustainable manner, so they can&#39;t see there is any reason for others to interfere.<br /><br />So what I&#39;m trying to do is not to defend pilot whaling at any price. If people could give the Faroese better reasons than they do for stopping pilot whaling, they could probably convince the Faroese to see this issue from another angle. But people won&#39;t convince anyone by scolding the Faroese people, calling them the worst things. <br /><br />What I do, first and foremost, is to defend the Faroese people against prejudice and unfair often quite ethnocentric judgments. And I challenge the logic of people against pilot whaling - not just to be provocative, but because if people really want to convince the Faroese, they must do better than they do. And not least, approach the Faroese people with more respect. <br /><br />Please read my next blog here: http://elinbrimheimheinesen.blogspot.com/2012/05/10-arguments-against-pilot-whaling-and.html<br /><br />I wish you all the best! :-)Elin Brimheim Heinesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-60968542227376113882012-05-10T20:31:41.213+01:002012-05-10T20:31:41.213+01:00The largest animal welfare NPOs in the world ,incl...The largest animal welfare NPOs in the world ,including PETA, HSI and Greenpeace, with millions of supporters worldwide have been actively protesting and advocating change to the factory farm industry for decades. Many of the anti-whaling advocates that you address here are also members of those same international orgs that comprise of many vegan or vegetarian members. Are you suggesting that opposition to all other forms of animal cruelty and exploitation should stop at your shores?<br /><br />Two wrongs do not make a right, no matter how you do the math.<br /><br />What you refer to &quot;food&quot; is scientifically classified as toxic waste in most of the industrialized world and it is no longer a staple of the Faroese diet, but rather a major threat to human health. <br /><br />The Faroese Pilot Whale Hunt has been assessed most recently as &quot;non sustainable&quot; at the current kill rate, as per the criteria set forth by ASCOBANS (An Environmental Protection branch of the United Nations)<br /><br />The unnecessary slaughter of these magnificent wild animals serves as the poster child for man&#39;s arrogance and ignorance globally . Yes, if religion is relevant, may God forgive you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-87868303078838161622012-05-05T21:26:52.346+01:002012-05-05T21:26:52.346+01:00you are in such denial about this, may god forgive...you are in such denial about this, may god forgive you for killing such a beautiful, highly intelligent animal that knows pain and bonds to help the pod. This is apples and oranges. How can you sleep at night. There is a huge backlash now against the faroe islands. All the travel agencies that i have contacted will ban selling travel to these islands. There is no need to do this, its slaughter and its inhumane and sick and god forgive these bloodthirsty savages that kill these animals for sport. sick sick sick and the world is now aware of this. I for one will do my part to make sure there is not one agency in this state or others to offer travel there. Ban the faroe islands until this insanity stops. I wish you were able to feel the pain these animals suffer for your stupid sport. shame on you and the faroees. Shame to all of youKitten3660https://www.blogger.com/profile/18061072574847151472noreply@blogger.com