西班牙媒体（La Vanguardia）采访—马清运

l：In China there has been built many
skyscrapers these recent years, Mostof them following the western
aesthetic. Why?

M: Many
towers have been erected without a soul. I want to believe that we
in an epoch of transition. But, the truth is we don’t know
where.

l：What would be your alternative to this
time?

M: We should go to a more transitory
architecture, and build thinking that buildings will not last
forever.

l：Are you talking about that we should build
ephemeral skyscrapers, throwaway?

M:I understand that this concept
clashes with the Western mind. But in China the idea of
​​indefinite has less weight.

What
I mean is that here (in west), each generation believes that is
better than its predecessor, and better
than the next one. That everything they do is what should remain.
This idea deprives us of the future.China is good ground for
experimentation. We should take, this chance to reinvent
architecture.

l：Why are not built in China more skyscrapers
reflecting clearly the local
tradition?M:Many
of those who build towers, have not studied the essence of our
society. I try to go to the heartofChinese values, looking for
inspiration. But that's rare. In many Chinese new buildings there
has beena
diabolical entente among the worst of East and the worst of the
West: I would qualify that as a criminal
association.

l：How to do
better?M:Western architects prefer to act
individually.In China, the working way includes extensive
professional platforms, combining and exchanging knowledge.
Architecture may be the result of dialogue that a particular
criterion.

l：What is appreciated architects there
Western?M: About Spanish
architects,we appreciate their attention to detail, their ability
to combine materials and the quality of their design.I will also
tell you what we do not appreciate:their tendency to design houses
ascubes. I do not understand. You have you wonderful
architects,like Antoni Gaudí, who
produced sensual forms.

l：What we must attribute your inclination for
the sensual?M: The poetry and the visual
arts have still an important role in the formation of the
sensitivity of Chinese citizens. The cubes are too abstract for
us.

l：You have lived between China and EE.UU. What
about the architecture done in the
U.S.?M: I do not like the
architectural practice in the EE.UU, it can be devastating, and not
only in economic terms. It must be reformulated. I preach an
architecture that should be social motor, not a market order, not a
tool serving the market, as happens in the States.We can
restructure our profession or we surrender right to the market. If
not react to the harassment of the industry and software we will
lose our own space.

l：And
what about the architecture
China?M: It has possibilities. I am
no longer presenting myself there as an architect, but as a design
developer.I use my knowledge in design in order to propose projects
to attract investors.

l：Would you say to young Spanish architects
that China is a land of opportunities?M:Yes , for two reasons . There are
many buildings to be constructed . And here the architects are well
formed. If you go to China, will to invest in time and attitude;
and quickly become familiar with our customs.

l：What are your favorite buildings in
China?M:The China Television Tower raised by the Dutchman
Rem Koolhaas, the Capital Tower in Beijing, and a house in Xian
designed by my father.

l：Is your father an
architect?M:No. He was a tailor. But as he told
me once, "your dress is the first layer of
architecture.