if you haven't heard already battle of midway was sold to winstar farms and don alberto. yes,...don alberto the same outfit that owned reach the world.

when seeing this i wonder how much money it would take to buy a horse of this stature entering the KD. the horse cost almost 500k as a yearling

obv the figure wasn't published but you have to believe it was an obscene amount.

would anybody have a clue outside of a guess how much?

imo this has to be at least a 3 to 5 million purchase. you can't even rule out more.

PowerUpPaynter

04-24-2017, 08:40 PM

3-5 mil jeez. imagine it was a horse with a shot

boys at tosconova

04-24-2017, 08:55 PM

3-5 mil jeez. imagine it was a horse with a shot

i wouldn't say he doesn't have a chance. the horse has plenty of positives to build on and his racing style should keep him close and/or in position.

as for the amount paid. i wish we could get a definitive number. but i honestly think it has to be at least a 5 million dollar purchase. 2 million would surely be laughed out, and 3 seems a little low.

señorclipclop

04-24-2017, 09:00 PM

Should've waited until after the Derby, the price would probably have been lower. You have to think getting him into the breeding shed is the priority now.

boys at tosconova

04-24-2017, 09:22 PM

Should've waited until after the Derby, the price would probably have been lower. You have to think getting him into the breeding shed is the priority now.

doesn't seem like the purchase was made to hob knob at the derby. and breeding obv will come into play. doesn't winstar sell more than buy? you know don alberto has a roll to overpay just to continue their foot hole in america.

i dont know, i think this year the California horses are just crappy (minus Mastery of course) and thats ok they have been the top of the crop a lot lately.

Robert Fischer

04-24-2017, 10:20 PM

Potential sells high in markets like this.

Spalding No!

04-24-2017, 11:11 PM

doesn't seem like the purchase was made to hob knob at the derby. and breeding obv will come into play. doesn't winstar sell more than buy? you know don alberto has a roll to overpay just to continue their foot hole in america.

this is a major buy
The purchase of Battle of Midway almost certainly had everything to do with his status for the Kentucky Derby.

Both Winstar (American Anthem, Hedge Fund, One Liner) and Don Alberto (Reach the World, Unique Bella) were going to be shutout from the race unless they made a private purchase.

I think colts like Battle of Midway and Iliad fit with the best of the crop talent wise, but at this stage are at a huge disadvantage on seasoning. Additionally, the stress of going from sprint races to the Santa Anita Derby and beyond in such a short time frame means the connections are risking the overall shelf-life of these horses in the long run. Reach The World, who debuted in January, was in the same boat.

It wouldn't be the first time a horse was bought just before the Derby and won it.

ReplayRandall

04-25-2017, 02:19 AM

It wouldn't be the first time a horse was bought just before the Derby and won it.
Yep, that would be 2002 with War Emblem....

boys at tosconova

04-25-2017, 03:28 AM

The purchase of Battle of Midway almost certainly had everything to do with his status for the Kentucky Derby.

Both Winstar (American Anthem, Hedge Fund, One Liner) and Don Alberto (Reach the World, Unique Bella) were going to be shutout from the race unless they made a private purchase.

I think colts like Battle of Midway and Iliad fit with the best of the crop talent wise, but at this stage are at a huge disadvantage on seasoning. Additionally, the stress of going from sprint races to the Santa Anita Derby and beyond in such a short time frame means the connections are risking the overall shelf-life of these horses in the long run. Reach The World, who debuted in January, was in the same boat.

no doubt the TC races aided their decision to purchase. that was a nice race in the SA derby. another step forward and ya never know.

and i quote my friend jay trotter "even when you know, you never know"....lulz

His jockey has been due for along time: Corey Nakatani

prat is going to be the jock now.

yankeelpn

04-25-2017, 05:40 AM

no doubt the TC races aided their decision to purchase. that was a nice race in the SA derby. another step forward and ya never know.

and i quote my friend jay trotter "even when you know, you never know"....lulz

prat is going to be the jock now.

Damn, I was hoping for Nakatani! Why the change??

PowerUpPaynter

04-25-2017, 07:57 AM

that was a nice race in the SA derby.

Wait a second I thought we were all in agreement that the Santa Anita Derby was a dumpster fire. 5 horses with in 2 lengths usually indicates they all suck.

https://media.giphy.com/media/26FPy3QZQqGtDcrja/giphy.gif

and i quote my friend jay trotter "even when you know, you never know"....lulz

thats a great quote im going to recycle that one

Run Nicholas Run

04-25-2017, 10:34 AM

Damn, I was hoping for Nakatani! Why the change??

nakatani is an auto toss in these big events but now
the horse is a play using the nakatani off system.

boys at tosconova

04-25-2017, 05:49 PM

Wait a second I thought we were all in agreement that the Santa Anita Derby was a dumpster fire. 5 horses with in 2 lengths usually indicates they all suck.

the cali horses look slow. that may mean they are, or it may be indicative of several other things.

at least midway is cycling up, and you don't know how good he is. you could do a lot worse then playing an improving cali horse in the KD.

Robert Fischer

04-25-2017, 06:26 PM

Battle of Midway got a 116 TimeformUS figure (the winner, Gormley only had a 113).

Some good handicappers think Battle of Midway was best in the Santa Anita Derby, and also feel that he has more versatility to sit off a fast pace, than he showed that day.

boys at tosconova

04-25-2017, 06:39 PM

Battle of Midway got a 116 TimeformUS figure (the winner, Gormley only had a 113).

Some good handicappers think Battle of Midway was best in the Santa Anita Derby, and also feel that he has more versatility to sit off a fast pace, than he showed that day.

i don't put much emphasis on numbers. but gormley isn't even a consideration for me.

B&M connections seemed to also stress his versatility like you say. he just happened to be on the lead in the SA. that only adds to the appeal.

there are plenty of things to like here. but, hey. he's a longshot. they wouldn't be one if they didn't have some risk. and his risk is that he looks a little unseasoned, a lil slow, and not facing top horses.

regardless of that. the positives and trending up put him on the cusp of my short list.