Probably not. Last sim I did (iirc) said you need at least a 536, but a lot has changed since then so not sure of exact requirement. Hopefully will be able to answer that question sometime this week after I implement a bunch of APL updates.

aggixx wrote:Probably not. Last sim I did (iirc) said you need at least a 536, but a lot has changed since then so not sure of exact requirement. Hopefully will be able to answer that question sometime this week after I implement a bunch of APL updates.

Tazmon was nice enough to point out to me that the Halberd of Inner Shadows is overbudget (by about 40 points for the H WF version) which makes it better than the Kor'kron Spire. I've updated the list accordingly.

Pretty sure it's just that the two secondary stats on Halberd are closer together than the two secondary stats on Spire. The formulas might not be the same now, but a while back it was determined that the total stat budget was calculated as the sum of the stats each raised to some power greater than 1 (here's one source), so the item with more disparate stat allocation ends up getting fewer total stats.

Stenhaldi wrote:Pretty sure it's just that the two secondary stats on Halberd are closer together than the two secondary stats on Spire. The formulas might not be the same now, but a while back it was determined that the total stat budget was calculated as the sum of the stats each raised to some power greater than 1 (here's one source), so the item with more disparate stat allocation ends up getting fewer total stats.

can't help but notice you guys are listing gear with a h/htf rune included in your setup... i myself won't have the chance to get a heroic or higher rune, so... my question is this... would this gear list be any different with a t16 trinket in place of the rune? it looks to be very mastery heavy already so, it looks good for non-rune setups but i'm just curious of your thoughts

It's guaranteed the first time you get a BoA weapon it will be a Pig Sticker (assuming you have your loot spec set accordingly), after that it's random. I don't think they said that it's a 100% drop for the first one, that would be silly.

My understanding: unless you have heroic or heroic TF Rune, the 5.4 trinkets will generally be better. That said, the better your gear is (ilevel wise) the better rune gets because it scales so well with stat increases.

I believe aggixx updated the feral guide in this forum to include the new basic trinket evaluations given a fixed set of gear (will be different of course based on your gear, but it should give you a good idea).

That is also my situation. My guild will likely only get into heroics half way through the tier and probably not all the way through (we are 4/12 heroics this tier but had some roster issues which hurt us a bit).

So I will likely be comparing my normal rune (which I only got last week) to normal mode (or lower) trinkets for quite a while yet. To further complicate things, my other current trinket is a Heroic Thunderforged Rentakis which stacks up well to the new trinkets as well.

Hey guys, so I got the Pig Sticker last night and I'm wondering if I should go for the WF normal on other weapons before getting heroic ones or should I stick to this one considering it's not upgradable?Thanks.

If you can get your paws on a warforged normal weapon it is indeed better than the Pigsticker. A heroic weapon would be better than both of those options of course so if you've got other competitors maybe holding out for a heroic weapon isn't a bad choice.