So, since in Egyptian religion, Horus works out to be Lucifer, the same as Lucifer, and Horus is the same as Jesus, then, Jesus is same as Lucifer.

Please don't be obtuse, you are being deceived or deceptive.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4555812

Its so evident that almost nobody here understands duality. Horus is not Lucifer!! Horus is associated with Jesus! Lucifer is someone else : )

Lucifer is NOT the devil. If you do you research you will see that Lucifer ORIGINALLY had no connection to the devil at all. This was a creation of the Catholic church to hide the truth from a certain pope.

So, since in Egyptian religion, Horus works out to be Lucifer, the same as Lucifer, and Horus is the same as Jesus, then, Jesus is same as Lucifer.

Please don't be obtuse, you are being deceived or deceptive.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4555812

Its so evident that almost nobody here understands duality. Horus is not Lucifer!! Horus is associated with Jesus! Lucifer is someone else : )

Lucifer is NOT the devil. If you do you research you will see that Lucifer ORIGINALLY had no connection to the devil at all. This was a creation of the Catholic church to hide the truth from a certain pope.

Quoting: AAONMS 1282493

SorryThis was a creation of the Catholic church to hide the truth BY a certain pope.

Templars were originally GOOD, just like the Illuminati were. What they are now? A perversion, but guess who controls all the strings? Why the Vatican of course.

Your idea of what is "Satanic" is still determined by thousand year old paradigm created by one of the most CORRUPT institutions on the planet, who murdered SO many people.

Including the "remaining" original Christians who followed the APPOLISTIC tradition of Yeshua/Jesus, in favor of the Paul-inspired Gentile abomination that STILL exists to this day. The gnostics were so powerful, and influentual at a certain point (and had ACTUAL abilities) that they were branded devil worshippers, and destroyed subsequently.

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Paul was ignorant and taught a LATER version of Christianity based on HIS interpretation of the material.

The bible was never meant to be given to the masses because because most would never understand it. It is actually a highly intelligent compilation of scriptures which carries a high degree of symbolism. The bible is also highly astrological and uses geometry.

This is also as much information below the words of the bible as there is above them and if you don't know that...than you DON'T understand the bible!

Step 1 - In line with our belief that Antichrist will come from the House of Windsor, Prince William joined the "Order of the Garter", a secret society formed in 1348 which has long exercised great control over the global Illuminati.

Step 2 - Prince Charles and Queen Elizabeth II announce plans to put Prince William through an unprecedented course on how to be a King -- a course of training never done before in all England's long history! Is William going to be trained to be Antichrist, the coming "Man of Lawlessness"?

Paul was ignorant and taught a LATER version of Christianity based on HIS interpretation of the material.

The bible was never meant to be given to the masses because because most would never understand it. It is actually a highly intelligent compilation of scriptures which carries a high degree of symbolism. The bible is also highly astrological and uses geometry.

This is also as much information below the words of the bible as there is above them and if you don't know that...than you DON'T understand the bible!

Quoting: AAONMS 1282493

The Bible was given to us all to read without any man. We go straight To God & the Holy Spirit.

The Vatican kept the Bible from the masses for hundreds of years--thus the DARK AGES!!

What you advocate is dark age mentality.

I read the Bible all the time and understand it very well.

You must first accept Jesus as your Lord & Savior.

Paul was converted by Jesus.

Paul, Jesus, John, Matthew, Luke and Peter all agree about who is Israel

Mat.21:43,48 Therefore say I to you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Mat.23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate.

John 4:22,23 You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the jewish people. But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you jewish people: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 18:5,6 Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the jewish people that Jesus was Christ. And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.

Acts 22:19-21 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.

Ro.2:17 Behold, thou art called a jewish, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God.....25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a jewish, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a jewish, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Ro.9:6,7 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Two Israels

1 Cor 10:18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?

Gal.3:7 Know you therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal.3:16,28,29 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.....There is neither jewish nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Gal.6:15,16 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and on the Israel of God.

Phil.3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:

<IMO>Freemasonry is the largest, secret, luciferian organization in the world today(~). Peace be with You

We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

Yes, he had 'a vision' but that is all he can say; then, the brother of Yahshua (well, one of the brothers, Yacob) said in Messianic Legacy by Michael BAigent Richard Leigh and Henry LIncoln, thought or seemed to be of the mind that Paul was of the anti-christ spirit, teaching against the clear teachings and examples of Yahushua Himself.

this is not good of Paul.

Paul is maddening to try to read, and often he talks on in circles, as if to make you more confused after trying to figure out his meaning than when you were when you started to read him; simply maddening, this man named Paul. Father of the Church, my ass.

Well, sorry, let me correct/clarify my thought there, just now, Paul is so famous in Catholic Churches, he is their favorite. Why?

Because of this spirit, I think, because of his maddeningly convoluted talking/writings, which wrest the truth of the Scriptures out of their original meaning, and confuse everybody with another doctrine.

His writings were just letters, letters to specific groups who were having troubles with certain issues here and there, these should not have been given the same weight as the prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, John in Revelation, for instance, do you think?

They are not on the same level. Yet, the Church has deified the guy for some odd reason. He is the least one who should be called St. Paul, and so revered, namesaked, etc. because he NEVER EVEN SPOKE TO THE MESSIAH NOR SAW HIM!

like all the others in the New Testament DID.

Wtf is up with THAT?

i'D sure pay more attention to what the Messsiah's own brother who knew him well, and what he taught and meant, knowing who he came from/by/thru/for, than this pipsqueak wanna be disciple who goes against what the Master said, wouldn't you?

<IMO>Freemasonry is the largest, secret, luciferian organization in the world today(~). Peace be with You

Quoting: theSearchingJones

I agree with you, of course, we should not allow any of them in our government.

They are against us. Lucifer is an enemy, not our saviour.

they call him Christ in the Churches, they laugh at our stupidity. So they are indeed, not our friends, not 'Godlike' men, as they pretend, but they are our enemies.

So is Newt really a 33rd degree mason? I knew I did not trust that man.

I havent' researched enough on that, though, just read it.

Don't vote for anyone in the system that long, it is a bad bad sign. Someone is his master, he answers to someone or something, after that long and changing nothing. See how he speaks? Good things he says, but what is the outcome? No heads have ever rolled because of Newt.