Except the Nazis never won the legislature (Reichstag); they got their majority by physically removing the Communists. They never ran the country with popular approval; more than half of Germany was intimidated into silence. If you point to a random grave from the 1940s, you don't even have a coin's chances of being right.

I find it amazing of the 60 million people who died in WWIIand all i hear is 6million Jews ,its just typical that there is such hype to remember the Holocaust, so we should forget the other 52mwhat about the Russians and the polish community suffered for decades when they were soldout by the allies, how about the Horrific carpet bombing over Germany all those defenselesspeople randomly bombed in late 1945.. for what ? I think the German people Have paidthere dues and we need to move on , the real joke is the Jews are 'doing to the PalestiniansWhat the Nazis Did to them. As far as hunting war Criminals maybe you should start bypulling the plug on a Ariel Sharon..LikeReply

They'll always say there's some left over. If they say their done, they'd stop getting money and they simply can't have that, can they? In 50 years "Look, we know a former Nazi guard is hiding in Altoona, PA." "Ummm, that would make them over 140 years old." ".............NAZIS! NAZIS! NAZIS!"

I wonder, if in our lifetimes, the Holocaust card will ceased to be played as something to hold over the world's collective heads to extort what Israel wants.

JeffDudeLebowski:They'll always say there's some left over. If they say their done, they'd stop getting money and they simply can't have that, can they? In 50 years "Look, we know a former Nazi guard is hiding in Altoona, PA." "Ummm, that would make them over 140 years old." ".............NAZIS! NAZIS! NAZIS!"

I wonder, if in our lifetimes, the Holocaust card will ceased to be played as something to hold over the world's collective heads to extort what Israel wants.

No. Do we hear much about Cambodia or Rwanda, today, even though they are MUCH more recent?

Flamethrowing_Troll:JeffDudeLebowski: They'll always say there's some left over. If they say their done, they'd stop getting money and they simply can't have that, can they? In 50 years "Look, we know a former Nazi guard is hiding in Altoona, PA." "Ummm, that would make them over 140 years old." ".............NAZIS! NAZIS! NAZIS!"

I wonder, if in our lifetimes, the Holocaust card will ceased to be played as something to hold over the world's collective heads to extort what Israel wants.

No. Do we hear much about Cambodia or Rwanda, today, even though they are MUCH more recent?

Do you favor the idea of trying to bring the perpetrators of the massacres in Cambodia and Rwanda to justice?

tirob:Flamethrowing_Troll: JeffDudeLebowski: They'll always say there's some left over. If they say their done, they'd stop getting money and they simply can't have that, can they? In 50 years "Look, we know a former Nazi guard is hiding in Altoona, PA." "Ummm, that would make them over 140 years old." ".............NAZIS! NAZIS! NAZIS!"

I wonder, if in our lifetimes, the Holocaust card will ceased to be played as something to hold over the world's collective heads to extort what Israel wants.

No. Do we hear much about Cambodia or Rwanda, today, even though they are MUCH more recent?

Do you favor the idea of trying to bring the perpetrators of the massacres in Cambodia and Rwanda to justice?

Flamethrowing_Troll:JeffDudeLebowski: They'll always say there's some left over. If they say their done, they'd stop getting money and they simply can't have that, can they? In 50 years "Look, we know a former Nazi guard is hiding in Altoona, PA." "Ummm, that would make them over 140 years old." ".............NAZIS! NAZIS! NAZIS!"

I wonder, if in our lifetimes, the Holocaust card will ceased to be played as something to hold over the world's collective heads to extort what Israel wants.

No. Do we hear much about Cambodia or Rwanda, today, even though they are MUCH more recent?

Tat'dGreaser:casual disregard: We said never again. And then we almost immediately turned our backs and let it happen again. And again. And again.

Cambodia. Darfur. Syria. Somalia. Etc.

Perhaps what we meant was "never again will we lift one finger against outrageous atrocities."

Question, how do you think we should have stopped those from happening?

For all our comforts and our freedoms, we do nothing while people die. If I had a good idea to help the people of Syria, I would tell you. I wish I knew what to do. That will not stop me from hating murderers.

casual disregard:Tat'dGreaser: casual disregard: We said never again. And then we almost immediately turned our backs and let it happen again. And again. And again.

Cambodia. Darfur. Syria. Somalia. Etc.

Perhaps what we meant was "never again will we lift one finger against outrageous atrocities."

Question, how do you think we should have stopped those from happening?

For all our comforts and our freedoms, we do nothing while people die. If I had a good idea to help the people of Syria, I would tell you. I wish I knew what to do. That will not stop me from hating murderers.

casual disregard:For all our comforts and our freedoms, we do nothing while people die. If I had a good idea to help the people of Syria, I would tell you. I wish I knew what to do. That will not stop me from hating murderers.

Oh no, I agree but it's such a delicate thing these days. I mean really the only way to stop a genocide is to invade and kill or capture the people who are committing the genocide which the international community would now agree with. Kind of a sh*t situation really.

I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Flamethrowing_Troll:No. Do we hear much about Cambodia or Rwanda, today, even though they are MUCH more recent?

Well, they have been hunting down the big ticket guys from Bosnia, at least. That I'm in favor of.

cptjeff:I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Significant or not to them, an SS guard at a concentration camp is just as responsible as the person who pulled the trigger. These are not common Bundeswehr soldiers we're talking about, these are SS. No one just joined their ranks without being completely indoctrinated with the idea of exterminating certain groups of people.

Where's the Dumbass tag when you need it. Any surviving Nazi war criminals would be between 90 and 110 years old. There cannot be more than a handful of them left. What purpose does it serve at this point to hunt them down and prosecute them. It's a rhetorical question, since the answer is none.

Of course, the object of the FA is not a columnist, but Dr. Efraim Zuroff, a Nazi hunter with the Israeli office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. He has a vested interest ($$) in continuing to hunt down Nazis.

WWII ended 67 years ago and the Nazis have been brought to justice. It's time for the Jewish people to stop looking at themselves as victims. They have other, much more important problems to concentrate on.

BoxOfBees: Prosecute low-level officers who were following orders when they were 20 years old and are now 90 years old? Sounds like a productive use of everyone's time and money.

You know what? It is. Because showing potential evildoers today that they'll be pursued until they're 90 years old or dead might make them reconsider doing evil things. Sort of like how prosecuting Nixon might have prevented Cheney & Company from running our country into the toilet for personal gain.

Tat'dGreaser:cptjeff: I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Significant or not to them, an SS guard at a concentration camp is just as responsible as the person who pulled the trigger. These are not common Bundeswehr soldiers we're talking about, these are SS. No one just joined their ranks without being completely indoctrinated with the idea of exterminating certain groups of people.

Growing old is not a valid defense against what they did.

Bullshait. I'm sorry, but you're never going to convince me that prosecuting people who would have been shot if they refused is in any way just or appropriate. You can't hold ground level soldiers to the standard of your idyllic world where they refuse any evil order even when that would have resulted in their own death. This isn't your cub scout troop here- even if they pretty rapidly were shocked by the horrible stuff the SS was doing and wanted out, any act against their superiors would probably resulted in summary execution. You gonna hunt people down 70 years after the fact for being cowards? I don't think it's in any way appropriate to put anyone on trial who doesn't have any power to actually change things.

Go after the leaders, fine, but they're all dead. But at this point in time, going after the small fry does absolutely no good, and really rather disgusts me as somebody who cares about the rule of law. Yes, the Holocaust was unimaginably evil. Remember it, honor it, and allow it to pass into history. The war is over, and we won. I think we can allow some level of forgiveness at this point, even for somebody who played a very small role in an unspeakable evil.

Tat'dGreaser:cptjeff: I think you're seeing people reacting to the massive manhunt for the low level guys who were never really that significant to the Nazi party when they're 90 years old. It does absolutely no good for anybody, I think is the point.

Significant or not to them, an SS guard at a concentration camp is just as responsible as the person who pulled the trigger. These are not common Bundeswehr soldiers we're talking about, these are SS. No one just joined their ranks without being completely indoctrinated with the idea of exterminating certain groups of people.

Growing old is not a valid defense against what they did.

Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

Subtle_Canary:Um yeah, they did. Once the war got into full swing and Germany's man power started feeling the pinch, the SS tended to conscript able bodied men to bolster its ranks (remember, the SS took retarded casualties on the Eastern Front. Fanatical loyalty combined with poor training tends to eat up manpower), The Auxillary SS that tended to be guards at camps were conscripts. Hell by 1944, most of the SS werent even German and of THOSE guys you had a better chance of finding some conscripted schlub with a beef against Stalin or whatever than any national socialist.

I'm sorry but as a soldier I'm not buying the "I was following orders" excuse

Barricaded Gunman:BoxOfBees: Prosecute low-level officers who were following orders when they were 20 years old and are now 90 years old? Sounds like a productive use of everyone's time and money.

You know what? It is. Because showing potential evildoers today that they'll be pursued until they're 90 years old or dead might make them reconsider doing evil things. Sort of like how prosecuting Nixon might have prevented Cheney & Company from running our country into the toilet for personal gain.

/Yes, I reverse-Godwinned the thread. I make no apologies.

Do you really think that the fear of prosecution 70 years down the road is in any way a factor for guys who live their lives with a significant chance that their rivals or opponents will kill them any day in a gruesome manner? That's the same argument advocates of the death penalty use, deluding themselves to believe that somehow kingpins of drug cartels are afraid of the possibility of being killed very peacefully in prison after a very long, drawn out trial. They live their lives with a much higher risk of gruesome death every day.

Tat'dGreaser:cptjeff: Bullshait. I'm sorry, but you're never going to convince me that prosecuting people who would have been shot if they refused is in any way just or appropriate

I just got done explaining to you that these were not normal soldiers. They have been going after SS guards. These are the guys who enjoyed their jobs.

Can you prove that in the case of every individual soldier? Or are you assuming that (see Subtle_Canary's post)? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter, and that's not a legitimate prosecution, that's a witch hunt.