Ah, yes, the ignore button. It's been so long since I had to use it. Muuuuuuuuch better. Don't forget to block PM's, too, ladies!

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You went to school where you were taught to fear and to obey, be cheerful, fit in, or someone might think you're weird.Life can be perfect. People can be trusted. Someday, I will fall in love; a nice quiet home of my very own.Free from all the pain. Happy and having fun all the time.It never happened, did it?

Is it just me or is this totally he who shall not be named's latest incarnation? Same tone of self-satisfied smugness for creating drama, same feigned obliviousness, same annoying writing style, same bare minimum of creativity, same extra lame sense of humor, same frequent inclusion of emoticons, same blahblahblahblather. Not to mention the hard-on he has for yours truly. The only things lacking are the faked abortion pictures & god drama.

i've been thinking that for a while now; was just trying not to be paranoid...even the capitalized screen name made me wonder...i was trying not to be paranoid, but, there it is. ignore function ftw.

Is it just me or is this totally he who shall not be named's latest incarnation? Same tone of self-satisfied smugness for creating drama, same feigned obliviousness, same annoying writing style, same bare minimum of creativity, same extra lame sense of humor, same frequent inclusion of emoticons, same blahblahblahblather. Not to mention the hard-on he has for yours truly. The only things lacking are the faked abortion pictures & god drama.

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"You're cute, like a velvet glove cast in iron. And like a gas chamber, a real fun gal."

Aww, well give yourself a big hug for rescuing us. Nothing like an idiot troll to bring the busties back together.

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You went to school where you were taught to fear and to obey, be cheerful, fit in, or someone might think you're weird.Life can be perfect. People can be trusted. Someday, I will fall in love; a nice quiet home of my very own.Free from all the pain. Happy and having fun all the time.It never happened, did it?

You went to school where you were taught to fear and to obey, be cheerful, fit in, or someone might think you're weird.Life can be perfect. People can be trusted. Someday, I will fall in love; a nice quiet home of my very own.Free from all the pain. Happy and having fun all the time.It never happened, did it?

Girl Power, needless aggression towards people who are trying to help you is really not the way to make a good impression.

Do you really act like this when you go to a party?

Party-goer: "Hi! Welcome to the party! Can I introduce you to anyone?"Girl Power: "Hi! I want to talk about something now."Party-goer: "Ok, there are lots of people having conversations. What do you want to talk about?"Girl Power: "I want to talk about something different. It's totally unique. And I want people to come and listen to me."Party-goer: "Well, tell me what it is. There really are a lot of conversations going on, so I'd be surprised if you couldn't join in on one of those. If your topic is totally new and people are interested, they might come and join in - remember, they're already enjoying their current conversations."Girl Power: "I want to talk about terrapins, if you must know.And by the way, who made you the boss on conversation rules? I'd really rather just stand in the middle of the room and shout about terrapins until people listen to me and start talking back."Party-goer: "Janet and Bill are talking about terrapins, over there by the fruit punch."

*Girl Power walks over to Janet and Bill*

Girl Power: "Hi!"Janet and Bill: "Hi!"Girl Power: "I want to talk about terrapins now."Janet: "Great! We've been talking about terrapins for a while now."Girl Power: "What do you think about terrapins?"Bill: "Well, that's a big question. Luckily Creepy Jane has been sitting in that pot-plant recording our entire conversation - would you like to take a minute to scan through the transcripts?"Girl Power: "I don't have time for that."Janet: "Well, why don't you start off by telling us what you think about terrapins?"Girl Power: "Terrapins are small flying monkeys."

Janet and Bill stare at Girl Power and back away slowly. Later, they make mad, passionate love. Girl Power blames Party-goer for no apparent reason, punches her in the face, and is then surprised that no-one else wants to talk to her. Jane remains creepy.

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“Logic is the art of going wrong with confidence.”Morris Kline (mathematician, author) 1908-1992

Here are random examples of Busties giving the 411 to newbies in various forums/threads. I did suggest that you look around the Newbies/Community Forum thread to get a feel for how things work around here. Had you done so, you'd have had your proof that I wasn't making it up to "dominate" you. I was just trying to politely pass on information that would be beneficial to your experience in the Lounge.

QUOTE(pollystyrene @ Nov 4 2008, 10:05 AM)

The board doesn't allow newbies to start threads until you've made 10 posts. And it's for good reason- because we're self-moderated, we really don't want redundant threads. Most busties here think 10 posts isn't even enough. We've been around long enough, chances are, a thread already exists for whatever you want to talk about.

So, for the love of cod, don't start a new thread unless you bring it up in The Community Forum thread. You don't want to see us when we're angry.

Note that the above is a few years old, at that time the limit was still ten. It was upped to twenty-five, I am still not sure what the new limit is. I do think there is a block in place that keeps people from doing what you did, ie: running up their post count, from getting approved.

QUOTE(girltrouble @ Feb 24 2009, 03:35 AM)

DO NOT start a new thread.

trust me, you will piss busties off.if you have an idea for a new thread, go to the community forum (here) and post it there. you can find out if there are enough people to contribute.

QUOTE(culturehandy @ Jul 27 2009, 11:10 AM)

Welcome newbies!!!

by posting here, you've done the first great thing by introducing yourself!!!

Few things about the boards,

you won't offend us if you post away, in relevant thread. Posting about the world of warcraft of escorts won't get you in our good books.

If there is any thread you don't see, but are wondering if we have something relevant to that topic, pop on over to the community forum and ask. Chances are that there is a thread, it's just dropped out of sight.

If you're unsure about posting, by all meants lurk until you get the feel of the thread.

Also, please please PLEASE, do not start a new thread without asking in the community forum first, see my second point.

welcome all and happy posting!!!

QUOTE(kittenb @ Sep 1 2009, 07:37 AM)

Good morning new people! Nice to see you around these parts.

bconga - thanks for the link to your project. If you are considering starting a new thread, please, please PLEASE ask in The Community Forum first. That will let you know if there is enough interest here to make it happen. Thanks.

auralpoison is all bark and no bite. If that is what turns her on, more power to her. Way to go auralpoison. You win the bust award for most likely feminist to bark herself to sleep.

You just can't stand the simple fact that me, totomoto and most others around here are more dignified than you.

You still haven't shown me, totomoto or anyone else for the matter official rules on this forum stating we need permission to start a new topic. We are feminists who think for ourselves. We don't need your brand of domination and control around here. Barking yourself to sleep won't help either.

I do not know why anybody felt the need to stir your turd back up, but I really hope this is the last of it, Toto. *sigh*

Do you really wonder why most people think you are a troll? Because you are immature, obnoxious, paranoid & prone to flights of delusion. And now that the evidence of your sheer cunt-ery has been erased (You weren't trying to be "funny". You were on the offensive from the word go.), you can rewrite history any way you like. I must admit, I am vastly amused by the tale of the poor martyred hero, Toto & the great Dark Bustie Cabal she's had to fight against. How strong she's been in the face of adversity to post centuries old bad jokes & cut/paste "humor". How weak HER enemies are since obviously they put out the Dark Bustie Signal to call each other into the fray. O, what wicked debbil wimmins these people be!

Get. Off. The. Fucking. Cross. ALREADY. Seriously.

Look, you dozy old cow: I do NOT know what meds you are off of, but WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH NO MATTER HOW YOU RETELL IT. There is no conspiracy against you, there is no group of Busties calling the shots on people they don't like, & NOBODY THINKS YOU'RE FUNNY/INTERESTING. And just because you think "the rules" are made up does not mean that they are. It's just more proof of your self-absorption that you've never bothered to look around & see that LOTS of Busties have posted reminders about them.

For the love of Mike, put it to rest grandma. Stay in your lame fucking thread & quit trying to get others involved in your silly little reindeer games.

Oh, & I'd like to add that I cannot believe that Girl Power went & brought all of her ridiculous bullshit for four weak-ass, single sentence posts about feminism & what it means today. She was just bored & playing games, I guess.

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"You're cute, like a velvet glove cast in iron. And like a gas chamber, a real fun gal."

girl power: pointlessly posting to get up a thread count is a sure way to irritate busties, and to make us regard you as a troll. we don't care for people who post for no good reason, ignoring the topic at hand. if you want to piss people off keep in that direction. if you want earnest comment and community, then explore this forum, and get to know it, let us get to know you. your question is going nowhere, there is no reason to be so urgent with it, there is no deadline for it, so posting it today or tomorrow makes no nevermind. gaining our respect will gain you some of your own.

girl power: pointlessly posting to get up a thread count is a sure way to irritate busties, and to make us regard you as a troll. we don't care for people who post for no good reason, ignoring the topic at hand. if you want to piss people off keep in that direction. if you want earnest comment and community, then explore this forum, and get to know it, let us get to know you. your question is going nowhere, there is no reason to be so urgent with it, there is no deadline for it, so posting it today or tomorrow makes no nevermind. gaining our respect will gain you some of your own.

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"what a swell farewell party! we said goodbye to everything, including the lining in my stomach." - garvey, from the film, born bad

"That's one career all females have in common, whether we like it or not: being a woman. Sooner or later, we've got to work at it, no matter how many other careers we've had or wanted." --margo channing, all about eve

i am super sorry if i hurt, bruised, or even caused you a second of bad feeling. you know i adore you, and i think you also know sometimes i am a complete and utter dumb ass. and in this conversation, i was a jackass to boot. i totally took it personally because i know most busties are cat people and so i was stupid and blew things up. i fucked up. i have no problem saying i made the error i made it into something it shouldn't have been and i feel awful about it. i am so super sorry i and i hope you will forgive me.

nono

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"what a swell farewell party! we said goodbye to everything, including the lining in my stomach." - garvey, from the film, born bad

"That's one career all females have in common, whether we like it or not: being a woman. Sooner or later, we've got to work at it, no matter how many other careers we've had or wanted." --margo channing, all about eve

oh, now aural, don't take it personally. btw, i didn't take it out of context: hate or no, i don't like my pets scratching/biting/whatever at guests, if i don't like them, i won't have them over. i don't like animals that attack unless someone is threatening me/breaking in my house. period.

to you, a cat is less work, and to me a dog is less work. but it seems our reasons are the same, but which one suits us is different.

as for taking the dog out at 5/6/7am, why? simply put them on a water/feed schedule, and they won't have to go till you choose. [shrug] that's basic house training.

till the puppy monster, none of my dogs had dog toys. she had them because she lived with mr. t, and she couldn't resist buying them.

none of my dogs was ever passive-aggressive, the converse was true of all the cats i've known, save one. so dogs come out waaaaaaay better in my book. cats have easily destroyed 5x as much of my stuff as dogs, and i'm probably being kind.

sounds like you had a dumb dog. sorry. the dogs i've had were smart as a whip, listened, and were awesome companions. perhaps i'm lucky, but that's why i like dogs, my experiences with them have been far, far better than the ones with cats.

cats are fine, but dogs, dogs i love. i just get them better.

The only reason I took it personally is because the whole conversation started because of my missing my beloved animal companions of more than fifteen years. I wasn't talking all cats or cats you experienced, I was talking MY cats & you chose to outright dismiss (In a variety of colorful ways) things that I loved about my pets. I was sharing good memories of them that made me feel happy inside when I wasn't feeling so great & you basically just shit all over them in your anti-cat ranting. Which sucked & felt shitty & hurt my feelings & got me in a snit. And you know that I don't get in a snit very bloody fucking often. My feelings are valid whether you choose to dismiss them or not.

As far as the injury my cat caused? Never scratched anybody but my mother. BECAUSE SHE WAS FUCKING EVIL & HE KNEW IT. I have mourned more in the past few months over my cats than I ever did for the she-devil that birthed me.

You don't like cats, you haven't had good experiences with them, fine. But you know what my life here is like. You know it's just me, myself, & I. I don't have anybody here to really be there for me through the emotionally lean times & those two furry little bastards helped keep me fucking sane. I can't go to the movies with crushes or shoot them down, I can't help friends open bars & then get in a fight with them, I can't even meet somebody for a cup of goddamned coffee. But I used to be able to look forward to at least somebody being happy to see me everyday & not just because I fed them. And I know that I'll be out of here soon enough & that I have that silver lining to look forward to, but not sharing it with my babies is gut-wrenching. It's a knife in my stomach every single day.

The dog? *Was* fucking stupid. It was my mother's little co-dependent fuckwit. It was coddled in a house, not an apartment & things were different then. Had it been MY choice things would have been a whole other story. But my mother wasn't well enough to take care of the thing when she moved in with me, so it fell to me to deal with him. And I'm not retarded, I tried to get him to change, but I quite simply couldn't fix years of her animal mismanagement. It wasn't going to happen & I had to work with what I had as best I could.

QUOTE(girltrouble @ Nov 19 2009, 01:53 AM)

aural, if it's an consolation, i'm thinking about getting a bunch of kitties tattooed on my arm.

I'm just gonna pretend like none of this ever happened & go on in willful ignorance, never revisiting the topic again, so thanks but no thanks.

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"You're cute, like a velvet glove cast in iron. And like a gas chamber, a real fun gal."

well along with what rosey said, i really haven't noticed that behavior. in the last 6 mos or so the number of threads that pugs posts in that i read has dwindled (although, the number of threads i read is always in flux), so there is a chance that i was not privy to that.

that said, i feel like when she started posting here i took her under my wing, we confided in each other so there is a relationship, loyalty and a bond there. further, i tend to look past my friends flaws until it bites me, personally, in the ass.

lastly, i sympathize with her. i was/am a late bloomer. i am very aware of how terrifying huge change can be. especially change that no one can make for you, that big, scary public change... i guess i understand how hard that is, and how sometimes it can make you act inappropriately. and sometimes you put your head in the sand because you don't think you can cope with what you know you need to do. for me it was transitioning, for her, it's letting go of this relationship. for me it's very personal.

i don't think either side will change their minds in this affair, perhaps you have info i don't. perhaps i have info you don't. to quote a friend--

"it is what it is."

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"what a swell farewell party! we said goodbye to everything, including the lining in my stomach." - garvey, from the film, born bad

"That's one career all females have in common, whether we like it or not: being a woman. Sooner or later, we've got to work at it, no matter how many other careers we've had or wanted." --margo channing, all about eve

GT, you are a really smart woman and I am suprised that you haven't noticed this. When Pugs has been on the defensive, she attacks and then almost instantly curls up in a ball and says, "Don't hurt me. I'm sensitive!" Well, many of us are sensitive. If you don't want a response, don't put yourself out there. You are taking a risk when you do.

I can't speak for GT, but as a person who has attempted to help Pugs I want to say that I have definitely noticed this behavior from her. It was easy for me to recognize it because I behaved in a very similar way when I was in a similar situation. That's one of the many reasons why I sympathize with her & why I've attempted to help her.

I don't think Pugs is acting this way because of her church's influence or anything like that. I don't think she's being intentionally manipulative, either. I simply think she is EXTREMELY confused & in a TON of pain. She has found herself at a crossroads where she never wanted to be. Neither choice is easy & she is not sure what is correct, so the pressure to chose is AGONIZING. I think Pugs has been reacting in an instinctual manner - almost like a wounded animal.

I do not support all of Pugs' actions, but I do support her & her potential. That's why I have tried to help.

Oh, and Bunny, I'm not disagreeing with you with what you've said to Pugs; in all honesty, I don't give a rat's ass about her situation. Once I had the sense she had become even more manipulative than her usual self after becoming a regular at whatever church she's been going to (wow, she must be learning a lot from those Jesus-loving people), I decided there's nothing else I need to say to her. Deleting one's posts after there's been a blowout should be grounds for banning. There's low and then there's LOW, like gutter low... you know?

You know, I may be harsh but there are far harsher ladies in the lounge and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There's a lot to be said when the content of what we say harshly isn't disagreed with much (if at all).