1. You insist that teaching men to not rape (which we already do) is sufficient to eliminate the nonexistent "rape culture", and yet you cringe at the idea of teaching children to abstain until they can handle children, insisting that children are too stupid do control themselves, while potential rapists aren't.2. You insist that birth control and abortion is none of their business, and yet you insist you get their tax money involved in it.3. You don't realize that hardly anyone wants to ban birth control, they just don't want to pay for it.4. You ignore the problems that women face in third world countries. Bonus points if you compare them to your own like some spoiled brat.5. You are completely unaware of Planned Parenthood's racist past, and their connections with the KKK, which they have never apologized for. You also ignore or excuse bad behavior from abortion clinics.6. You insist that men should have no say in abortion or birth control, while you yourself are either a lesbian, a virgin, sterile, or even a male. Wait, I only have a say if I'm FOR it?7. You cringe at women being sexualized in the media, and yet you yourself exercise little sexual restraint. Bonus points if you make fun of pro lifers for being "prudes". Double it if you support "topfreedom".8. You take the SCUM manifesto seriously.9. You are completely baffled at the idea that a pro life man will actually abstain until he's ready to raise kids.10. You find the idea that people can go without birth control to be completely incomprehensible. (Added after talking to butt hurt feminists)11. You are completely baffled at the idea of complementarianism and consider it sexist, even though it's supposed to be the opposite of sexist.12. You consider it sexist to state that men and women are different, and that they have different needs. What, are the X and Y chromosomes completely pointless?

Ok, I initially planned to only comment on your posts one at a time, and give a week or so breathing time to see if you can make reasonable counter-arguments, or if you'd just delete my comments and ban me from posting for not agreeing with your right-wing views. But frankly, this article has been digging under my skin for a while, and the lack of criticisms of any sort really makes me believe somebody has to step in somehow. Therefore, I'll make counter-arguments to all of the points of what a supposed "feminzai" is:

1. Ok, I may be missing the point of whatever "rape culture" is, but in my understanding of it (which is more influenced by its use as a trope in TV, Movies, Games, etc.) "rape culture" is assuming that whenever a bad guy does something bad to a woman, it ALWAYS has to rape, hold rapey implications (i.e. the evil overlord kidnapping the princess to be his bride), or have the women assaulted in ways that leave them "broken" by the villain. And from that understanding, the argument isn't how "rape will just go away if we tell people not to rape", but that it's overly played up as a cheap "shock factor" to the point it doesn't seem shocking at all, and only serves as a cheap way to depower female characters, and make them seem little more than victims to pity than issues to be properly addressed.

2. Well, I'm certain some conservatives would say the War on Terror is "none of your business" to anti-war activists, or people who just want to question the tactics or justifications of certain wars, but we still have to pay for them regardless.

3. Same point as number 2: there's always something we don't want to spend our taxdollars on, but spend anyways to ensure the government doesn't devolve to a backwards nation ignoring changes around the world, and in its own society.

4. Um, I'm pretty sure that when feminists do compare women in Third-World countries, it IS to point out the problems they face, mostly through how they are oppressed by male-dominated societies. I do think that comparing some situations in the Third World to America is sometimes hyperbolic, but they DO recognize the problems, and the more active feminist groups that I know explicitly focus on solving those problems in Third World countries.

5. Ok, I didn't know that Planned Parenthood had any connections to racism and the KKK until this post... and I'm still not 100% convinced they still do, unless you can pull up a link or two showing it. Even if Planned Parenthood was founded by racists or the KKK, I'm certain they've distanced themselves enough that racism doesn't apply to their policies anymore. Oh, and anybody complaining about "bad behavior" from abortion clinics shouldn't have the right to excuse fundie nutjobs detonating bombs in them to kill the medical staff.

6. Ok,while I can see your point of how it's wrong for somebody to talk about abortion/birth control if they can't become pregnant, I don't think that justifies discounting the opinions of women who can become pregnant, for OR against. A pro-abortion person shouldn't condemn a women who doesn't want any abortions for whatever reason, as much as an anti-abortion person shouldn't persecute a women who wants an abortion. Personally, I only think that abortions should be given if birthing complications would kill the child anyways, or even kill the mother, or in cases of rape where a woman is forced with a child they never wanted or could hope to support.

7. Personally, I cringe at ANY sign of sexualization in the media, or "sexual power" being expressed by individuals, since they boil down attractiveness to body features instead of actual personalities, and often in ways that devalue said personalities. I won't mind if a women in media is physically attractive (unless exaggerated to the point it's more comical or grotesque than attractive), but I'll gag if they're portrayed as an air-headed bimbo, or engage in "romantic" encounters without any real chemistry. Although I don't have a problem with people who could be considered "prudes", I don't support people who treat prudishness as holding the moral high ground (like some pro-lifers do).

8. I don't know what the SCUM Manifesto is, but I'm certain anybody who takes it seriously (as either a threat or as the gospel) is a total idiot.

9. Well, the main argument isn't if pro-life men can abstain until having kids (it's more often than not a given, I've found out), but what happens if a child is forced onto a women in a situation where she can't support a child - whether it's because a rapist forced the burden onto her, because her income can't support a child, or because the birth will have complication that would outright kill her. I'm fairly certain a pro-life man would be capable of ensuring the first two scenarios wouldn't happen to whoever they want to have a family with, and I'm still certain some of them would make an exception if complications that would threaten their wife and/or kill their child came into play.

10. Ok, I can understand if this involves some feminists freaking out over how other women DO get through their life without birth control, but if it's defending their personal decision to have birth control for themselves, I think they can keep that right, thank you very much.

11. I'm not sure what "complementarianism", but it vaguely sounds like a bullshit excuse for men to make drunken "nice rack!" comments to women at a bar. Now, if what you're saying is that men shouldn't be called sexist because they simply call a women "beautiful" through sappy and cheesy romantic stuff, that's fine, or even that they shouldn't be called sexist if they make a pass at a women, but apologizes when she takes offense to something he didn't mean offense with. But if it's to allow a man making sexual comments at somebody, no matter how many times they tell them "no means no", then THAT'S sexist in my book.

12. Well yes, there ARE difference in men and women biologically, but outside of the ones directly related to sexual reproduction (childcare for women, viagra pills for men, etc.), there should NOT be differences to men and women based on what careers they can pursue, or what interests they can take a part in. A women shouldn't be rejected from the military because "it's a man's job", and a man shouldn't be shamed out of being a nurse because "that's only what girls do". Likewise, a girl shouldn't be denied from masculine-orientated entertainment, nor a boy denied from feminine-orientated entertainment, just because it's a hobby mostly practiced by their opposite sex.

And on one final note, STOP USING FEMINAZI TO DESCRIBE FEMINISTS YOU DON'T AGREE WITH!!!! Barring the whole "Godwin's Law" of comparing something to Nazi's, this is by far the worst comparison you can make, since the Nazis were one of the most male-dominant, anti-female groups in modern history. If you still want to accuse some feminists of stepping across the line into "tyranny", then use terms like "radical feminist", "militant feminist", or "feminist fundamentalist", but STOP saying "Feminazi"! It's just as bad as when someone says "Commie-Nazi", and probably worse since it's clearly being taken seriously instead of just being a joke!So, there are all my points of why I think these arguments against "feminazis" are either full of crap, or REALLY exaggerating the "threat" posed by feminists to white men of privelage. Feel free to disagree at your leisure, so long as it doesn't involve banning me just for saying something you don't like.

Key word: "Originally". I'm fairly certain there aren't any "eugenics" on Planned Parenthood right now, and that whoever's running it now is in no way supportive of those original goals. Seriously, you may call Planned Parenthood a lot of things, but calling it "eugenic" is over a century out of date.

Ok, fine if you're just doing so for the trivial sport of getting to say "Hey, did you know about this freaky thing from history?". But if you're digging up centuries-old skeletons to claim they're guiding political movements in the here-and-now (like SOME people do when they keep trying to mix up the modern Planned Parenthood with its century-old past), that crosses the line from "Hey, that's something interesting to know." to "Dude, you're completely insane." It'd be like claiming Transylvanian people want to mount the bodies of their enemies on spikes because that's what Vlad the Impaler did a few centuries ago.

Well even so, can't we find a DIFFERENT term for those women instead of "Feminazis"? I've already suggested several options in my post, including "radical feminist", "militant feminist", or "feminist fundamentalist", so why not that instead of "Feminazi"?

Admittedly, I'm mostly peeved at people mashing "Feminist" with "Nazi", partly because it tends to invoke Godwin's Law (the person who resorts to calling non-Nazi people Nazis automatically loses the argument), and because it invokes two political alignments with opposing goals (see my argument of how calling someone a "Feminazi" is about as bad as calling someone a "Commie-Nazi").

And yes, I admit that my little tangent may make me seem like a "grammar Nazi", but I'm really not too uptight about slang in general - I just get pissed off when people start taking antonyms, redefining them as being the same term, and start using it in a serious political context.

Thank you for summing up everything that makes me dislike feminism. I've seen so much hypocrisy in this belief that it makes me sick. I realize not every feminist is this bad, but...well, the majority of what i've seen of them are. Especially when parading the idea of 'If you are anti-abortion, you are anti-women' like it makes sense. Does that mean if I am pro-life, I am anti-myself?

It claims to be a movement of freedom while it lumps genders and belief systems into stereotypical categories.

I used to think that invoking Godwin's law when it comes to feminism was hyperbole, now I'm not sure anymore. To say that anti abortion is anti women is like saying that anti racism is anti white people.

It's all about dependence on the government, independence from common sense and morality, and a false hope that any amount of social engineering will enable women to not suffer the consequences for their poor choices.

Indeed. The desire for freedom seems to include the desire to be free of consequence. Which is stupid.

Everyone has consequences for their actions, regardless of race, class, gender or status. Women should be no different. I understand the motive, (Or at least, what was the original motive)and society can have oppressive tendencies toward certain groups but-- that's life. I honestly don't see all oppression suddenly coming to a redemptive halt any time soon, and stomping, screaming and kicking isn't going to help. It would probably make things worse by enforcing stereotypes.

If you are going to be against that kind of oppression the least you can do is be reasonable and logical about it.

11. Sexism is, by definition, discrimination based on sex. Complementarianism discriminates based on sex in that it advocates distinct roles based on sex, which is discriminating. It should be noted that, strictly speaking, sex-separated restrooms are also sexist, however. Separate but equal? Fwah!

12. See above.

Semantics! Mwuahahaha. It's interesting that "discrimination" has gotten such a bad connotation (although it does have that dis- prefix... so I suppose it is warranted). As previously noted, separate restrooms are discrimination. Giving aid to disabled people is discrimination. Denying those under 18 years of age the right to vote is discrimination. Are these things bad? Not necessarily.

I don't think scantily clad videogame characters are oppresive, I just think it's dumb as shit to have armour that doesnt protect any of your vital organs and wish games would provide more realistic armour.

but birth control is a medicine and it needs to be covered by insurance. I don't want to pay for people's doctors visits because they smoke or do drugs, but we do anyway. It's called not being a selfish cunt.

Abortion should be something a couple decides on together.

Topfreedom is only fair. Men's breasts and women's breasts aren't much different. We also have the right to breastfeed our kids wherever.

Just because the south has a 'racist past' doesn't mean i'm NOT going to travel to florida. So your argument is stupid.

I'd teach my kids to obstain from having kids if they can't handle it. They WILL use birth control if they decide to have sex, and can get abortions if they get pregnant. You can't stop kids from having sex. it wont work.

"I don't think scantily clad videogame characters are oppresive, I just think it's dumb as shit to have armour that doesnt protect any of your vital organs and wish games would provide more realistic armour."

It's fine to complain about that, just don't be hypocritical about it.

"but birth control is a medicine and it needs to be covered by insurance. I don't want to pay for people's doctors visits because they smoke or do drugs, but we do anyway. It's called not being a selfish cunt."

No, birth control is a luxury item. I'm sorry you find it incomprehensible that you can go without it.

"Abortion should be something a couple decides on together."

So men are put into a position to force their partner to get an abortion.

"Topfreedom is only fair. Men's breasts and women's breasts aren't much different. We also have the right to breastfeed our kids wherever."

Not really. Female breasts are heavily sexualized. You're only bitching because modesty acknowledges the fact that men and women are different.

"Just because the south has a 'racist past' doesn't mean i'm NOT going to travel to florida. So your argument is stupid."

Florida has apologized for it. PP has not.

"I'd teach my kids to obstain from having kids if they can't handle it. They WILL use birth control if they decide to have sex, and can get abortions if they get pregnant. You can't stop kids from having sex. it wont work."

And yet you can stop people from raping or murdering completely? Just because the obesity rate is going up doesn't meant that teaching kids to eat right and exercise isn't doing any good.

Okay, I guess Ibuprofen is a luxury item too. Just shut up and deal with your menstrual pain, I'm not giving you any goddamn insurance!

Both people. BOTH decide. men can't force a woman to keep it or to abort it, neither can a woman do that to a man

well if we are the ones who have sexualized them, we can un-sexualize them. We did it with our ankles, we can do it with our breasts.

I never said we can stop rape or murder completely. But i'm not going to tell my children to not have sex or masturbate, or they'd burn forever.

Im sure some people in PP have apologized, but not the whole orginization (If we go by trusting your word) But i'm sure there are still plenty of racists in the south even though the governments apologized.

"Okay, I guess Ibuprofen is a luxury item too. Just shut up and deal with your menstrual pain, I'm not giving you any goddamn insurance!"

Look, unless you have sex every single day, you can easily go without it. It's not like you'll die if you don't have sex. My sister doesn't take those pills. I don't think my parents do either.

"Both people. BOTH decide. men can't force a woman to keep it or to abort it, neither can a woman do that to a man"

Sorry sweetie, it doesn't work that way in the real world. Many feminists recognize that abortion is liberation for men, not for women. Men have more to gain by aborting than by having children.

"well if we are the ones who have sexualized them, we can un-sexualize them. We did it with our ankles, we can do it with our breasts."

Except you can have breast orgasms? Or that the fact that breasts develop differently from other primates speaks volumes about how sexual breasts really are?

"But i'm not going to tell my children to not have sex or masturbate, or they'd burn forever."

Why not? I thought the whole point of sex ed is to prevent STDs or unexpected pregnancies?

"Im sure some people in PP have apologized, but not the whole orginization (If we go by trusting your word) But i'm sure there are still plenty of racists in the south even though the governments apologized. "

Did you know that disadvantaged ethnic groups receive more abortions than white people? Or that PP markets heavily towards them?

THe pills arent just for sex, they're for your reproductive system health and they especially help with menstrual symptoms. Trust me, PMS ain't pretty for anyone. That would probably be the main reason I would buy those pills because my family has really bad symptoms, and mine last for 6 and a half days on average plus i get symptoms of PMS ever since I start ovulating.

Abortion is liberation for women too, because a lot of times the men will leave the woman if she decides to keep the child and then she wouldnt be able to support it

Men's breasts are sensitive too, you know

Yeah and that's why im telling them to use condoms and birth control and not to remain abstinent

Well maybe that was just one location. But anyway just because PP is one abortion provider doesnt mean that it's all abortion providers

"I'm not cheap, I just am on a lot of medications and it's very expensive, I'm on several different types of pills currently."

How much do you need birth control?

"IRS is government run, PP isnt."

PP receives over 2/3rds of their income from taxpayers. So it is as good as "government run".

"It's not the duty of clinics, that's something for the parents."

The mere fact that the clinics didn't do a damn thing when they should have speaks volumes that they are corrupt.

"ABISTENCE DOESNT WORK, it's been proven it DOESNT WORK."

Actually, the idea that teaching abstinence, or merely practicing it, doesn't work is based off of correlation implying causation. There are plenty of other studies that show it works, and you're a fool if you ignore it. I could just as well state that the increasing obesity rate is caused by increasing efforts to teach kids to eat healthy food and exercise. Are you from opposite world? I've heard you spout lots of bullshit, but this takes the cake.

Again, feminism is for children who don't have a fucking clue about how the world really works. The sooner you drop this foolish endeavor, the happier you'll be.

I do support topfreedom, since breasts are not inherently sexual and the taboo of female toplessness is really only a "Western thing". Also, if we are taking complementarianism as it is strictly defined in the Bible, it can be somewhat sexist and I do not believe men or women should be confined only to outdated gender roles.

I've always felt men and women alike should dress at the level of modesty they are most comfortable with -all the way up to full nudism. While "naivete" is typically frowned upon, I think the barrier in most people's minds about dressing in very little clothing publicly is very reminiscent of humanity's fall and original sin. I guess in some weird, subconscious way, I think being allowed to wear less clothing without shame helps invoke thoughts of a happier time when life was simple and paradisaical, a life none of us got to experience. That's just me personally, of course, and I understand others' sense of modesty should be respected. Plus, you know, it's nice to bundle up when the weather turns cold.

If I'm in a public shower, I'm going to strip completely and not mind if others do the same, as long as no one states it makes them uncomfortable. Doesn't mean I'd ogle those around me! I just don't mind nudity, personally. But hey, if you're more modest, good on you and I don't mind.

That point you suggested is part of 7. I don't like how women are sexualized in movies or videogames that otherwise have nothing to do with sexuality, but a lot of feminists who complain about it are very hypocritical, since they believe in ideas like sexual revolution or topfreedom.

Fun fact: Rape culture was a term originally coined by prison reform activists to describe the environment within male prisons. Feminists caught wind of this and sought to maintain their monopoly over the word rape. They stole the term describing the horrors of prison life and projected it onto the whole of probably the safest place on earth for women, western culture.