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December 30, 2013

Lilly Limon isn't a nice person who deals in the truth

I was going through some ORR emails last night out of boredom and came across an exchange that sparked a lot of whispering at city hall. I had heard something like this existed, but wasn’t sure it was what it was purported to be. Well, it was all that and more.

You’ll have to suspend your belief that “appalling” exchanges between city council members and city staff are filled with f-bombs and “tu madres” etc et al. It’s a little tamer than that at city hall. However, the exchange is pretty nasty and extremely unprofessional even without the name calling. It apparently drew a not-so-private reprimand from the mayor to Rep. Limon.

I was going to lay it all out for you before I linked to the email, but those of you who hate Joyce Wilson aren’t going to change your mind even if you are given solid reasoning and hard facts to do so. That’s the key to being stupid – you can’t be talked out of it.

1. Limon claims that she is Fermin Acosta’s supervisor. Not true. All of the support staff answers to the city manager. That’s how the whole thing has always been setup. Everybody knows this. Well, Limon doesn’t and that’s why she’s under the impression she can pay Fermin $100,000 plus a year to tell constituents that Mayor Leeser is to blame for their problems.

2. Limon is using city resources for non-city business. Having her staff demand that the city supply an impromptu protest with audio visual equipment and beverages is out of line. There’s a very clear process for how these things work. Often a city council member will provide money for the logistics out of their discretionary fund.

Crowding 100 people outside the front door of an occupied building requires some organization and security. At the least you’re going to inconvenience people who have business inside the building. In a worst case scenario you’re blocking a primary exit in case of a fire or other emergency. Promising a group of people the run of city hall requires some planning. No single city council member has the power to start unilaterally granting access to the building for large groups.

3. If you provide audio visual equipment and beverages to one private group to protest at city hall, you have to provide it for all groups.

4. Obviously Fermin Acosta is starting a lot of shit at city hall. He seems to be the root of a lot of problems and it’s now costing taxpayer money to keep up with all of it. I did some digging around and I hear that Wilson only got involved after Acosta started bullying the PIO and others. One staffer used the word “terrorizing” to describe how Acosta went about demanding the outlay of city resources.

Remember, Limon has already demanded that the city pay Enrique Moreno to represent Fermin Acosta in a wage dispute. A dispute where Limon is demanding that Acosta be paid three times as much as any other person doing his job for the city. And let’s not also forget that Limon refuses to meet with certain council members without her attorney (Enrique Moreno) present.

5. Copying the mayor and others on this email was highly unprofessional. Blind copying in whoever Juliet Lozano is was a direct breach of professional ethics. This would get you fired in corporate America.

6. I thought Wilson handled this better than 99 percent of us would have. Given that everything Limon claimed was a lie, I would have taken a much different tone. Oh, and I would have fired Acosta before a reply was ever sent back.

7. I think it’s odd that Limon thinks she can personally hand out city resources to anyone without much warning or without any real reason. She really thinks she was crowned instead of elected, huh…

8. Couple this hostile email with Holguin’s outright lies about the city manager and the Shawver park debacle and you can see where the problem really is when it comes to decorum at the city. It ain’t Wilson!

Yes, blocking access to city hall during the middle of the day is best way to get the word out about domestic violence. If the subject matter was Marijuana Awareness and there was a gathering - it would be called a protest.

I'm not the type of person to pretend that a gathering of people with an agenda is subject to different treatment due to its subject matter. And given the event was not sanctioned and posed a security risk to the people in the building - it was 100 percent a protest.

Calling DK names doesn't cover up the fact that Limon doesn't know how to go about setting up an event, or know how to conduct herself professionally. Her email hissy was akin to the fit Holguin threw to get Shawver Park. No prior planning, only foot-stomping and breath-holding until they get what they want. Works for kindergartners, right?

Limon's ethnicity and gender have nothing to do with her pitiful day-to-day activities as a City Rep. Eddie Holguin shares her ethnicity, but not her gender, and he is just as pathetic, something that DK points out on a regular basis.

The contempt for Limon and Holguin is because of their dullness of mind, not their biological makeup or ancestry - get it right, and stop making excuses for crappy City Reps.

Lemon seems to think she is still a principal at some school and therefore has a right to dictate all things to all people. She obviously is completely and totally ignorant of how government functions on a local level and most likely state and federal. Talk about calling people dumb asshat's - Lemon and her BFF Acosta fit that description 100%.

According to the email Limon said she knew several weeks in advance and Ms Wilson gets less than a 24 hour demand for resources?

Ms Wilson is responsible for the entire facility which includes scheduling security for increased crowds. Facility safety is not an "optional" job requirement for her. As City Manager Ms Wilson has not only the right but an obligation to question anyone with plans to use the facility regardless of who they work for.

The lack of planning and basic professional courtesy was unsuprisingly lost on the Limon-F.Acosta shared defective brain cell.

But then again Fermin Acosta is a dishonest low-life who thrives on lies and instigating sh!t wherever, and whenever he can.

And face it Limon is a completely crude and low-class over the hill cholla who thrives on vicious gossip and bullying and it has everything to do with her ethnicity because she has proven on more than one occasion to multitudes of her so called constituents that she is absolutely a hateful vindictive racist.

After the Ball Park scam its easy to hate Wilson. Sooner she is gone the better. Limon sucks as a rep, but would Chozet have been better ? Hell no. She would be just another Corporate Welfare sponsor like her buddy Escobar.

I wonder if Limon's district even knows what a disruption she is at City Hall. Her election just goes to show that some people shouldn't vote. They don't know the issues, they don't know the candidates, they don't understand city government. "Getting out the vote" results in having people like Limon on the government payroll.
Chozet would not have been an embarrassment to the people of El Paso. I just pray that Limon's actions stay with the local press and don't go statewide. She's a black eye for our city.

Chozet didnt even know the Park she wrote about in the Times letter to Holguin wasnt even in Holguin's district. Her money came from that fruit in San Fran who was the Taco Bell owner's kid. You know, that chain that had to take the Chihuahua off their commercials.

I'm very troubled by the first post in this thread. I think calling the blogger an "asshat" defeats the benefit of the free exchange of ideas that this forum presents. What would we be if we couldn't work out our differences with civility and respect?