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Topic: I am HIV negative but doubting the results a year later (Read 46695 times)

It happened in september with my ex and I didnt get tested untill may with my new partner ...I remember having to go back to the clinic june 8th 2006 cause I got tested for STD's and those came back clear but to be sure I took them again ...I have to wait a week for them ...

ok thats good but next time read my story above I am really conered..although i had negative results ...i recently got my blood work done from my doctor andshe said everything was fine ...on a regular Compleate Blood Count test ....if ther was a drop ion red blood cells or white bllood cells most importantly wouldthey know there would be somethgin wrong with me ?

Have protected sex from now on and you'll no longer be cornered. Condoms are excellent protection from hiv infection. Use them every time until you are in a securely monogomous relationship where you have BOTH tested negative for all STI's.

good advice ....so true .... but yet look at me and where i am .....I though I could trust those results and i reassured my partner but what happens now if they werent at all what they where ...i jsut cant even think of it right now .....i am going to log off here for a bit until i can get tsted again ...everyone keep your fingers and toes crossed for ....I am sure everything will be fine but the freak otu is legetimate and serious ...

Alright, stop with the drama. Crying wolf will just create a situation where no one will take you seriously. Your "life and death" situation is centered on your relationship with this new guy who is apparently blowing you off rather than taking your concerns seriously.

Re-read the advice you've been given in this thread, and make a decision on a course of action.

As you do not use punctuation, readable grammar, or paragraphs, your posts are difficult to follow. Here's what I've pieced together - and if any of it is wrong, say so.

I'm interested in the time-line here, NOT the intimate details. The only relevant detail is the fact that you do not use condoms for anal intercourse with your current partner.

You broke up with your ex in Sept 2005.

You got with your current partner in December 2005.

(You do not use condoms with your current partner.)

You tested hiv negative in May 2006.

Now, the advice:

Your negative result in May means that you are conclusively negative from the date of your test, back three months to the same date in February.

So, if you tested May 15, consider yourself hiv negative on February 15th and BEFORE February 15th.

However, because you do NOT use condoms with your current partner, are in a new window period.

You need to test 12-13 weeks after the last time you had unprotected anal intercourse with your CURRENT partner, or any one else you may have had intercourse with since February. Don't count oral and don't count intercourse with a condom.

You need to test 12-13 weeks after your last experience of unprotected intercourse.

You should be using condoms until BOTH of you have tested negative. If you test negative again after this window period, it does NOT tell you the hiv status of your partner. Only a test done on HIM will tell you his hiv status.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

The only thing your May 15th hiv test tells you is that you were definitely hiv negative on February 15 and BEFORE February 15th.

As you have been having unprotected intercourse with your current boyfriend, you do not know your current hiv status because you do not know if you partner is hiv negative or hiv positive.

You need to test 12-13 weeks after your last incident of unprotected intercourse with your current partner, and you need to start using condoms with your current partner until you know HIS status through HIS current test. Only if you are BOTH hiv negative can you stop using condoms.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

but how would you know i tested before may 15th .....Idont have the dates written down cause i threw everything out so my parents wouldnt find it .....but i remeber going back to the clinic june 8th to get the final results .but I will call the clinic to find otu the correct dates ...if you will like so we can discuss this for the very last time and i can stop annoyiing you guys and driving myself ok ? If i got tested after may 15th would it still be ok that is my main question ?

No. Because you have been having unprotected intercourse with someone whose hiv status is unknown, you only know that you were negative in February.

I picked May 15th because you said you were tested in May but didn't give the date. The exact date doesn't matter - I only used that date to illustrate what I was saying.

You do not know your partner's hiv status. As you have been having unprotected intercourse with him since February, if he is hiv positive, you could have been infected by him anytime between February and now. You only know that you WERE hiv negative sometime in February and BEFORE.

You need to test 12-13 week after your LAST unprotected intercourse, no matter who it was with. You do not currently know your hiv status as you have been having unprotected intercourse with a person whose hiv status you do not know.

You and your partner BOTH need to test. Until you BOTH test, you need to use condoms.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

wqell if had sex with my Ex and i came out negative isnt he negative since i had sex with him.If he was positive i would be positive isnt that right ...Soooo...If my ex is negative and i have sex with him he is negative ther is no way he could have given me HIV if i tested negative ....i dont doubt your answer guys ..but it worries me now that it has changed ....You guys said i was legit with my testing now I dont know and i am not so sure now ....well ther goes the agony of telling my partner he is in fact HIV poz...

Ok that doesnt make any sense .If that was corred how come i wasnt infected .Why do u think the HIV epidemic has gotten this far as it has ...uqestion if he was positive then how come I didnt test positive for HIV .... doest it tell you that you got it from the person you slept with if you tested positive wouldnt that indicate the status of the person you where with ...i was just with my current b/f and my ex and that is all i dont sleep around with people .Ok rapid rod when you say even if he was positive and i got out ok how come that is ? wouldnt I be poz as well from him ? if it was like that I am sure no one would ever have to deal with this horrible disease ..... I am sorry for being rude i dont mean to but this hits hard home for me as i recently had to burry my friend as he died of an AIDS related illness so this has all gotten me confused and I appologize for being rude or disrespectful i just want to know the straight deal ....tell me the truth that is what i need and I am asking ...You cant jsut become positive out of nowhere it takes someone else ...So I dont understand how you can say that you cant go by the results of your test ....If i was poz (god forbid)i would of had gotten it from my current partner (god forbid) which means that he was HIV poz

For example. My partner and I were together for a year and a half, having unprotected intercourse, BEFORE we found out I was hiv positive. We didn't know for a whole eighteen months of our relationship that I was hiv positive.

He tested NEGATIVE, despite repeated exposures. Although he didn't get infected in that first year and a half of our relationship, he could become infected the very next time we had unprotected intercourse, so we no longer do that. We use condoms now and he remains hiv negative.

For all you know, your current partner might be hiv positive and not know, just like I didn't know. If he is positive, and you continue to have unprotected intercourse with him, you will eventually become positive too. BUT, it might not happen right away.

The ONLY thing you can know from your test results so far is that you were negative when you met your new partner, and you were negative up until some time in February 2006.

You and your partner BOTH need to test 12-13 weeks after your last unprotected act of intercourse together.

I think the misunderstanding has come from your belief that one exposure will guarantee infection. It does not work like that. It might be the first time you are exposed, or it might be the 100th time you are exposed. Stop taking this chance.

You need to use condoms until you and your partner - your current one, or anyone in the future - have tested negative TOGETHER.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Well as lolng as I came into the relationship HIV negative I am ok for now ...my main concern was unwilligly passing it on to him ..or fearing that I did if the test results where wrong ....Dont they usally say it takes one expouser to get HIV?? .Now this isnt making any sense.. if that wasnt the case how come people get sick with the disease after there first time expousure even some experts say you can get infected fter the first time ....that is what happened to my good friend .....but also ann ..thats what I needed to know that my status was ok before i met my new partner.... that was my main conern i trust him wholeheartidly and he trusts me ...I trusted the results fully but now I am begining to doubt them now and its scary...as long as i came into the relationship HIV negative I am alright

You CAN get infected the first time. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you WILL. It might happen the first time, or it might happen the 100th time you have unprotected intercourse with an hiv positive person.

You are NOT alright for now. You do NOT know your current partner's hiv status.

You do NOT know YOUR CURRENT hiv status. You ONLY know your hiv status during and BEFORE February 2006.

I'm at a loss as to how to make this any clearer.

You AND your partner need to test.

You AND your partner need to use condoms until you have BOTH tested negative - TOGETHER.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

You DO NOT KNOW your previous partner's hiv status. You CANNOT know someone else's hiv status through YOUR test. He might have been hiv positive and you just didn't become infected.

You also DO NOT KNOW your CURRENT partner's hiv status. If he does turn out to be positive, he got it from someone other than you, because you were hiv negative when you started this current relationship.

If he is hiv negative, you have no worries. HOWEVER. Just because you tested negative does NOT mean that he is too. Re-read my post where I talked about my own situation.

As you do not know for CERTAIN that your current partner is hiv negative, you need to do one of two things.

1. Both get tested together so you can actually see for yourself what HIS test result is. This is the only way to know HIS hiv status. Testing is the only way to know hiv status. He might be hiv positive and not know, just like I didn't know - until I tested.

2. If your partner will not test, then you MUST use condoms with him. Your health is nothing to mess around with.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

this really worries me now .....I will sjut get tested with in six weeks..if it comes otu negative then I will test in september when it will be 3 months ....You guys have went from being reassuring to really getting me extremly worried now ....But i sitll cant understand why you cant know your partners status through your test it jsut doesnt make any sense to me at all ...

If my partner and ONLY my partner had tested for hiv, I would not know that I am hiv positive. He managed to remain hiv negative despite having unprotected intercourse with me for a year and a half. He was lucky. He COULD have become infected - and he still CAN - but only if we were to continue having unprotected intercourse. We don't. We use condoms now.

Live isn't always black and white. Your partner could be hiv positive REGARDLESS of what your own test results are.

Unless your partner ALSO tests for hiv and test negative for hiv, you MUST use condoms when having intercourse with him.

YOU CANNOT KNOW ANOTHER PERSON'S HIV STATUS GOING BY YOUR OWN TEST RESULTS. HIV TESTS ONLY REVEAL THE STATUS OF THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE TEST.

Use condoms with your partner until he tests - and tests negative.

You can stop worrying (and using condoms) when your PARTNER ALSO TESTS HIV NEGATIVE and only then.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

well i knwo form my previous partner that I tested HIV negative .My current partner I dont know his status ....but i relied on my negative result from my previous partner and i reassured my current boyfriend that it is 100 % negative and accuratly done ...Now iam jsut in aconstant worry because i am getting two differnt things from people ...maybe myworry has caused all this confusion and i appologize ...Is there any way that you can test for HIv quicker then 13 weeks ? maybe like the PRC test or ELISA?

A test at six weeks will be a very good indication of your hiv status but must be confirmed at 12-13 weeks.

An ELISA test is the standard test for hiv. It is what you would have used already. PCR testing is NOT approved for diagnostic purposes. Get an ELISA done at six weeks past your last unprotected encounter.

Unless your current partner also gets tested and tests negative, you MUST use condoms with him REGARDLESS of what YOUR test results are.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

ok so clear my mind for good at least for now ....Am I HIv negative from pervious partner conclusivly ?.my new partner needs to get tested with me ..and iam trying to get him down to hte clinic but we will see.I do trust somewhat my pervious negative result as I took the rapid test in a Dept of health and mental hygene clinic .....I recently went back to get retested for STD's.I read havung STD's increses your chance of aquiering HIV but since i dont have any (or didnt at thte time) what would my chances of being HIV positive from my pervious partner ?and what are the chances of me having already given it to my partner ? .I hate this question it makes my heart sink into my stoamch but i must as k it

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

ok then I am sorry for everything .....my confusion and worry must of confused you as well as the other moderators reading this thread and I appologize ....On a more personal note i recently burried my close friend he died of AIDS related causes ....I wish no one has to go through what he and countless of other people are going through right now ...I do hope they find a cure for this ...And they recently found the monkey that carried the supposed HIV strain that somehow might of jumped to humans ..This virus had to come from somewhere ....I do believe it came from an animal but that discussion is for a later time ....I jsut want to thank all of the mods of this forum board who have helped me out I am sorry for being a pain in the A@@ but this subject matter that we are dealing with hits home for me and MANY others ....but I just cant risk someone's life i already made stupid mistakes and suffered the consequences on my own I dont want another person to suffer cause of me ....This is the reason why I dont sleep around with people ....After I broke up with my ex in september I havent been with anyone else before i met my new partner in december ......I am not like that this is a day and age where Sex is deadly (no pun)..its not a beautiful and sacred act as it once was .....making love to your partner should be stress free .....I am NOT SAYIN AT ALL to have unprotected sex ..either have sex protected or dont at all .I made the stupid mistake of having unprotected sex with my ex and i got out ok ...and now i am making the same mistake again because my new p[artner says he is clean and i TRUST HIM .....he was honest with me since the begining .....my first fear in posting this message was somehow the tests came back a false negative and that i had HIV .....I was so worried for the safety of my partner because I told him my status was alright ....and we had unprotected sex that day ..He has a lot of family responcibilites ....everyone depends on him..So I jsut cant take that risk.My mind is at ease for now knowing that I tested conclusivly negative from my ex thats teh most important thing knowing that i came into my new relationship HIV negative is reassuring ...I know I am supposed to be worried about my safety as well .but if your going to have sex you might as well be responcible and get tested .....So far I have twice ....once i got tested for HIV and STD's in which I came back negative and cause I freaked out again( go fiigure) I got retested last friday and I am waiting for teh results .....So those should be negative as well ...Ann,RapidRod and Andy I am so sorry for all of this but i have to be sitting shiva for my friend soon so being on these boards really breaks my heart ...because my friend 's sister her family and i where at the hospital when he died .....According to jewish tradition he had to be burried within 24 hours of his death .i miss him terribly. Ann,Rapidrod ,Andy I am so sorry for bogging you down with this ....you guys are truly heroes ...i knwo i will test negative again but since i am under stess as a result of all this my mind likes to paly jokes on me and make me stressed out even more ...i will let you guys know how things go i am sure it will be alright .....Thanks for all your help and sorry for the long post but i jsut had to get all of this emotions out ..i knwo you guys dont need it but thanks for hearing me out ...

If you keep basing your status on what some one said theirs was, I will guarantee you that if you continue to keep having unprotected sex you are going to become HIV positive. You can not rely on what someone tells you, or how they look.

The concern here isn't that you infected your current partner, but that your current partner MIGHT infect YOU.

I understand that you trust him when he claims to be hiv negative and I'm not accusing him of lying about his status. I'm saying that unless he has tested himself, he doesn't actually know his hiv status.

You need to be using condoms with him until you have both tested hiv negative.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

There is no reason after 92 posts that you don't understand. If you REALLY don't understand go to your ASO and get the answers.There is really no reason for you to keep asking the same questions over and over again unless you are wanting to see your thread hit the 100 mark.

thanks for telling me what i needed to know .....i can be calm for now untill i get tested in 6 weeks in august 26th ......if it comes otu negative then I will test at 3 months to be extra sure ....Thanks you guys for your help and support ....btw what is ASO ?

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.

Thank you for your cooperation.

False negatives do not happen outside the window period. Strictly speaking, false negative do not happen. It is more a case of someone testing too early.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

remember when i got tested negative in may ,,,,,,,now i came up with a dry cough ..along with my kidney infection and all that other mess....and i recently came out with red lesions on my arms but they have seem to went away ....I trusted these results wholeheartidly with my boyfriend (now ex) and now what am i going to do ....The fear has resurfised again ..I dont know anyone in my family who has an autoimune disease.. what happens if i gave my ex HIV and i told him i didnt ....maybe all this stress is playing games on my body as well..this is all too much for me right now to handle a kidney infection i can handle ..my doc says my c4 levels where ok ....Usually isnt that what they check for when you have HIV?..What do i do iam really heartbroken as of right now ...What happens if i do have HIV ...Iam really heartbroken ann..I read up on Karposi's sarcoma nad they said that one u get it the bumps dont go away they are just less visible mine barly show on my skin now ...and they turned white when i pressed a glass to the spots..normally they dont blance when pressure is applied..i sitll have this annoying white tounge which hasnt gone away ...and it was weird i had it when i got tested negative in may or it could be the kissing disease since i did kiss my partner A LOT ..I hate being a bother but this worries me quite a lot cause how am i going to explain to my ex that the tests werent right i trusted those results wholeheartidly becasue i thought they where eally acurative .....I got tested at the right time i wasnt with another when i broke up with my ex partner....in september ...*sigh* I am jsut going to stop right now and jsut relax i have been alright up untill this point ..it has to be the stress getting to me