Anyone have any thoughts about Bernie Kosar's color commentary during the Rams game? I didn't get a chance to see the game.

Was he accurate? it does seem that they have a pretty crappy group of recievers. Also, in spite of his typical slurred speach when it comes to breaking down plays, analyzing performance and talking about schemes Bernie has traditionaly been right-on accurate.

Was it as offensive as Jeff Fisher and Banner seem to make it out to be? Or do they both need to be bitch-slapped by Buddy Ryan again?

Also, maybe it's apple-pie and motherhood but what gives with the President of the Cleveland Brown's apologizing for and reprimanding the guy who's doing the broadcast - - shouldn't there be at least a little bit of an appearance of independence between the media covering the game and the team?

YahooFanChicago wrote:Anyone have any thoughts about Bernie Kosar's color commentary during the Rams game? I didn't get a chance to see the game.

Was he accurate? it does seem that they have a pretty crappy group of recievers. Also, in spite of his typical slurred speach when it comes to breaking down plays, analyzing performance and talking about schemes Bernie has traditionaly been right-on accurate.

Was it as offensive as Jeff Fisher and Banner seem to make it out to be? Or do they both need to be bitch-slapped by Buddy Ryan again?

Also, maybe it's apple-pie and motherhood but what gives with the President of the Cleveland Brown's apologizing for and reprimanding the guy who's doing the broadcast - - shouldn't there be at least a little bit of an appearance of independence between the media covering the game and the team?

he made a joke about the pope. thee ohio state university put their president e. gordon gee out to pasture for making a joke about catholics, so bernie's lucky he even still has a job. gawd forbid you make a joke about the pope, or you go to the head of the line at the judgement table with a one-way ticket to hell.

Why are the Rams watching the Browns' feed with the Browns' announcers? I know that they have their own local coverage of the game because a friend of mine who lives in STL was watching it also.

I thought Bernie took a bit of a cheap shot at Kellen Clemens but big f'n deal. Charles Barkley says the same kind of things night-in and night-out on TNT and people love it. But when Bernie does it it's unacceptable.

One thing that was funny is that immediately after Bernie took a cheap shot at Clemens, he threw a bad pick.

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

Back in the day (early 90's) I ran into Bernie a few times out at Around the Corner and those other bars on the River/Lakewood border. Guy was a legit/good guy who never seemed to let fame get to him. Exact opposite of the entitled pricks that seem to be the norm today. Even at the peak of his career he seemed to honestly enjoy talking to average fans. I think that's why so many (including myself) tend to defend him and will always give him the benefit of the doubt.

It might be broadcasting pre-season football, while it might be easy to do... Its' paying his broke ass and it's more exciting than what I do. I'm sure he'd rather be behind the mic in cleveland where some people remember the decent player he was rather than in Dallas, where he was another Don Strock (veteran QB who never won the big game who backed up #8), or anywhere else in the NFL.

I agree with leadpipe: God Bless the guy for doing that job without giving a shit about what "Superiors" or anyone else thinks.

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It's four pre-season games per year. Kosar ain't getting back in the game on that jack. But maybe his issues do explain why many leaders of the organization have steered clear of making him a bigger part in Berea.

And Bernie was a big-time catholic. Not sure if that's case. Not that it matters. The whole point was Jim Donovan telling a story about Kellen Clemens actually giving an autograph to the Pope.

Bernie pretty much said after that, damn, it's really hard to criticize Kellen Clemens after that story and he sounds like a good man, but as a quarterback he just stinks.

Donovan mentioned Kellen Clemens met the Pope and Bernie said Clemens was a nice guy but shouldn't be playing QB in the NFL.

If you listen to what he actually said, none of it was a big deal or anything he hasn't said before. But because Jeff Fisher got wind of it and made a big deal about it on the day Peter King was at Rams camp... well, suddenly it's national news. A Blown-way-out-of-proportion-put-words-in-his-mouth (obviously by the number of Browns fans who don't know what was actually said) story.

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B/C King didn't have all access to the Browns war room and hang out with the FO like he has with the Rams. Gotta make sure you got the backs of those who take care of you

I'm sure it could be spun as Gannon giving out "constructive critisism"

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After all this time there's still a lot of the QB left in Bernie. He still scans the defense when the offense comes up to the line. He saw the Browns in a particular look and immediately knew how to attack it - throw long. So he got frustrated when Clemens ran a simple running play into the teeth of the defense for no yardage, or tried a short pass into heavy coverage.

After seeing this happen multiple times Bernie said, "He can't play quarterback". This is a five-year veteran he was talking about.

What he didn't consider was that this is a pre-season game and the Rams were more interested in player evaluation than winning. Clemens was probably instructed to run the plays that were sent in and not to audible. If Clemens was so stupid as to not be able to recognize what Bernie described as an "obvious" coverage the Browns were in, then he wouldn't still be here.

So I think Bernie was unfair in that he didn't know what instructions Clemens had, even though he was technically right about the Rams running plays with no chance of success.