I am not a lawyer, and have never represented myself as being one. I don’t need to be one. The Constitution for the United States makes very clear that the law is to be accessible to everyone. I cannot claim ignorance of the law as a defense for anything and there is no requirement for me or you to obtain a BAR union card in order to access and use the law, stated anywhere in the Constitution. “Practicing law without a license” is a fiction of law.

“By abdicating its responsibility to the public, congress has ceded its power to act on behalf of the people to the second largest BAR Association in the country….the Department of Justice. How do you think that is going to turn out for those of us out here in no man’s land? Do you really believe the DOJ is going to implement any rule, regulations, or other other fictions of law that would adversely affect other Bar members or associations? Not a rat’s chance in a deacon box that will happen.”

Pay careful attention here to the word “ACT”. An ACT is something the government is going to do by force rather than by actual power granted to them in the Constitution. In this particular instance, congress is charging the DoJ with law making which is unconstitutional.

Those of us who have actually read the bill and have at least a modicum of understanding of how legislation actually works and affects us, know that this bill is going to cause irreparable harm not only to the elderly, but to those family members and others who have waged this battle against the growing human trafficking of the elderly by professional predators working in tandem with unethical attorney’s , corrupt probate administrators, Adult Protective Services agencies, and professional predators who prey on the elderly and others, and who make a parasitic living off the targeting of the elderly to profit themselves.

Did you see one word in this bill that addressed the issue of identity theft that results from being declared a ward of the state?

Is there one word about stopping the assumption of identity by the predators who now present themselves as the victim and begin bleeding the estate dry?

Was anything said about the resulting abuse, neglect and exploitation by professionals and agencies that results from this civil death? ( by declaring the living human being a “ward of the state”, the victim has suffered a civil death, equal in its legal consequences to natural death) You are dead in the law, but still breathing.

Was anything mentioned about holding these administrators liable for violating the rights of the targeted victim?

Did you see one word directing these probate tribunals to follow rules of evidence?

To cap fees?

To stop the predators from isolating the ward?

Anything about stopping chemical restraint to silence the victim?

Any sighting as criminal activity the actions by these predators who make their living stealing the lives of their victims for profit?

Are we really this ignorant?

This bill is not a “good start”. It will not benefit the public in any manner. The provisions in this bill clearly relieve both houses of congress from any responsibility they had, to rectify the ongoing predator based system of elder abuse and exploitation we know as “kidnap, isolate, medicate and steal the estate”, by professional predatory guardians and their cohorts in these inhumane crimes and members of the BAR Associations who participate for profit resulting from the continued trafficking of the elderly.

This bill is clearly intended to target only the public, and all that will come of its future rules, regulations and statutes is that it will not apply to the professional predators in the system, but will apply (watch the careful wording they will use) only to possible family members who might abuse, or others in the community who might abuse the elderly.

If this bill was supposed to be the catalyst for changing the system….why are the only references to this system listed as miscellaneous? While the remainder of the bill is a reiteration of standing state and federal laws against internet scams, wire fraud, etc.?

Have we not been told repeatedly, that due to separation of powers that neither the judicial nor legislative branch can intervene? These are executive branch issues, meaning the president or your governor.

What the bill does do, is to further empower the very agencies and agents that we have been battling, and adds several more to the list who will now be funded and empowered to prey on the elderly.

Any state which receives block grants, is contracted to HHS on the Federal level. Each state has a memorandum of understanding which states the terms of the coming contract they agree to. This is followed by the formal contract and its accompanying funding…the block grant. In order to obtain your block grant, the state must follow federal guidelines and meet various standards which will now be legislated by the DOJ, a non-legislative body that is also directly connected to the system by virtue of their BAR Association.

TITLE V–MISCELLANEOUS

(Sec. 501) This section amends title XX (Block Grants to States for Social Services and Elder Justice) of the Social Security Act to specify that HHS may award adult protective services demonstration grants to the highest courts of states to assess adult guardianship and conservator-ship proceedings and to implement necessary changes. The highest court of a state that receives a demonstration grant must collaborate with the state’s unit on aging and adult protective services agency.

By abdicating its responsibility to the public, congress has ceded its power to act on behalf of the people to the second largest BAR Association in the country….the Department of Justice. How do you think that is going to turn out for those of us out here in no man’s land? Do you really believe the DOJ is going to implement any rule, regulations, or other other fictions of law that would adversely affect other Bar members or associations? Not a rat’s chance in a deacon box that will happen.

The DOJ is its own BAR Association and all those who are employed there as a legal entity, are in fact members of that BAR. The DOJ is second only to SCOTUS in its power.

How is it, that congress can give this kind of power away to state courts via the DOJ? What happened to that separation of powers crap we are fed constantly?

(Sec. 505) DOJ must publish best practices for improving guardianship proceedings and model legislation related to guardianship proceedings for the purpose of preventing elder abuse.

The DOJ DOES NOT REPRESENT THE PUBLIC!!!!

The DOJ is not the proper authority for improving guardianship proceedings. And they most certainly are NOT supposed to be creating model legislation for anything! That is congress’s job. And one they clearly have no intention of performing. The DOJ is charged with prosecuting the law on behalf of the federal complex as it is the legal representative for the federal government.

The “best practices” issue will be the noose we are all hung with. “Best practices” is widely regarded as code for violating your rights and usurping the Constitution and rises from Agenda 21 and Codex. Codex (the rules for everything globally)

Why would congress entertain such an idea? Because you cannot continue to claim you are representing the public and intent on helping them, while taking hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from the same associations and agencies we are battling.

Section 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. (this bill relieves congress of its duty to end these administrative tribunals and to make laws protecting the public from professional predators and to organize the courts). (emphasis, mine)

Judgments may be excluded by CONGRESS from Supreme Court reviews. The problem is, under the Probate Exception Doctrine SCOTUS already excluded itself from review of any probate case.

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I listened to that interview with that guy that Lulu and Robin did. I was not impressed. Just another example of someone who gets his info from the very people we are up against. The whole thing sounded like a propaganda piece to me. Too much repetition of what we hear from the people at the top. He sounded like he didn;t have any real working knowledge of the issues. Was just repeating what he thought sounded good.

The block grants have been ongoing for many many years. But where this money actually goes once it is deposited into the state treasury with no strings attached is anybodys guess. The block grants are the funding (bribery) needed to pay for the federal-to-state funding that is required under the unfunded mandates act. It allows the feds access to your state to implement the formal contract that contains their business plan. It is all done by contract law. A one-size-fits-all federal law is not the answer. We must work in state and change the laws including striking down all unconstitutional statutes in total.

I am truly worried about the idea of block grants to APS. We all know that many times APS contributes to the guardianship railroading of elders into the system. I wouldn’t call APS if my life depended on it. The block grant should be used to educate APS workers not to shuffle elders into guardianships, but instead it will be used to get control over more defenseless people and their assets.

I agree, there appears to be a major disconnect. This man apparently needs a little more training in this field before he jumps out there. I agree, he seems sincere, but have seen to much muckraking from him and a few others to be taken too seriously. Thanks for getting this out there anyway LuLu and Robin.

Marti I tried to listen to lulu’s show last night. I couldn’t get very far with that guy on there. Dont know who he is but I think has a basic misunderstanging about a lot of this. I think his intentions are good he just needs a good schoolin’. Love the shows with all you hosts on. That is a great idea and a lot of us was talking about it. Thanks to all of you for pulling this together.

United we stand divided we fall. Thank you Marti for partnering with other advocates who actually took the time to research this piece of legislation. While I’m sure Senator Grassley started out with great intentions we all know from collectively working on legislation that what we start with and what is deleted with white out is a separate matter. The time for accepting potentially harmful legislation as a start is over. By doing that we are no better than the corrupt judges who in their eyes have the best interest of the ward in mind. We must not accept generic harmful legislation we must push for the best not second best.

Listened to your show last night. This is an example of what working together looks like! Kudos to all of the other show hosts who joined in! This was just great! Nice that at least some of you can promote the cause instead of your selfs.

did you see that article where they are talking about this bill like a district rep for the doj is going to investigate and decide if the fbi should investigate and then decide if they should do something. Just jump up and bang your head on the wall now if you think these oversight boards or any of the other complaints boards are going to be required to turn over all the complaints they get to have them reviewed. this whole thing will focus on family members and will be set up to avoid any attorney being charged with anything of any kind and by extension the predators they work with. Have these people who are cheering for this thing got any idea at all what they are stepping into? Do they really believe for one second this isnt the final act of the protection racket thats been running?

D: Everyone is welcome to make comments here, even those who disagree with me as long as they remain civil and do not attack other posters or go into name calling and profanity. I do not have a problem with opposing opinions no matter where they come from, even the sarcastic and snide remarks are ok. I do not remove comments unless they contain profanity or attack commenting. If we all agreed on everything, we wouldn’t have a need to talk.

first, let me thank you for all your help in getting my mother out of that guardianship. Second, I think it takes a lot of nerve after all you’ve done to help so many to have someone come on here who has taken time out of his busy day to be part of a trashing session with other individuals who make their money by suckering families into supporting them, and make any comments. Just my humble opinion. You are far more gracious than I would have been.

PS: Get a copy of Black’s Law.. ( I have three editions and note the deletions and changes in terminology) and learn the terminology. These have been a great resource for countering arguments sent my way by law firms who assumed I wouldn’t have access to one of these books and who try to bully us with legalese. Again it is a learning experience…

And those who support what is obviously a bill that is intended to relieve congress of their duty’s and hand them arbitrarily to another federal agency, should explain why they did not bother to object.

When the bill in front of you clearly further empowers the very agencies we battle and adds a host of others to the mix, provides funding for them ….why would you think its a good deal? Why would you even consider supporting this?

What was intentionally omitted from the bill that should have been there if in fact, the bill was meant to protect the elderly from exploitation and provide them justice in the form of ….what?

Guardianship abuse is listed as “miscellaneous” and you thought this was ok?

We are working on a piece of draft legislation…This will require the state to take responsibility for ensuring the safety and protection not only of the elderly, but by extension their identity, and their natural rights and liberties.

Instead of demanding that I or anyone else who read this sham bill provide you with a solution….Why dont you come up with one? Try drafting your own legislation…it is a learning process but can be done. Even if it doesn’t succeed, it is a learning process that will educate you on how the system is actually constructed to work against you. Once you understand the system construct, you can fight back more effectively.

The criminal abuses are very lucrative and firmly ingrained in our legal system and are nearly impossible to eradicate. Those who abhor SB 178 need to step up and clearly state the realistic alternative in a positive way.

i read the bill. What a slap in the face to those of us vulnerable to this system. My respect for Sen Grassly just took a nosedive. What is wrong with these so called organizations that are cheering this garbage on? Drama queens every one of’em. Someone down the line here likened these groups to groupies trying to get back stage at a concert….great analogy.

Wonderful expose’! It’s unfortunate that the worst attacks against you are coming from those who claim to be advocates but who have no real understanding of how government works, what branch has what responsibilities to the Constitution and what they should have been doing to protect the public from this very kind of thing. We have no idea what keeps you going, but know that we appreciate the research and work that you do.

Will this ever stop? I have seen this bill paraded all over the net like it is a gift from god. God must have a cold heart and a dull mind if thats the case. They want rid of us but want to rob us first. thanks senator Grassly. and to think we were counting on you to help us.

Oh now you did it Miss M. Let the attacks begin! I dont know how you endure these people. Cant they read? Do they do any research? I think the answer will be very clear. no they do not. How many times do they have to be screwed over before they demand accountability from congress for what they do that is unlawful, and unconstitutional. Oh! I forgot..we are talking about probate here and the constitution does not apply.

I hate to admit it but you are right. And also I agree with Z these pseudo activists and advocates are going to tear you to pieces because you exposed this sham bill for what it is. You have more spine than anyone I have encounterd in this mess.

Now watch as all these “advocates” tear you up for laying this out there for them. They are their own worst enemies and are so desperate for attention that they will buy any load of crap handed to them and instead of going after the politicians who did this they will come after you. Thats what ignorance does to people. And I agree with Mel…they are so enamored with these politicians its like watching groupies at a concert trying to get invited back stage.

All the more reason to disbar the BAR. They all scream about how unions are destroying the country and yet this union called the BAR is killing all of us with their crap. In my mind it is an illegal and unconstitutional monopoly that has destroyed the justice system we were supposed to have. I can’t believe Grassley let this pass this way. You always want to think there is at least one on our side….obviously not.

The separation of powers you just described is exactly what makes this “law” unconstitutional. But the people who are star struck because a politician actually spoke to them cant get past their selves to see what has just been done to them.