This is a discussion on Final Table AJoff and AJsuit within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; I would like to ask an opinion about these hand . Can play in UTG and UTG + 1 when we (30bb)+, or is it

Final Table AJoff and AJsuit

I would like to ask an opinion about these hand . Can play in UTG and UTG + 1 when we (30bb)+, or is it preferable to give up without acting no matter how

#2

22nd October 2016, 11:55 AM

George Lewis [135]

Just as a general rule without a table dynamic etc I would be a bit cautious at a full 9 player final table with these hands. I hate folding them and would never shove 30bb but I would also not make it a standard move to open raise here. I obviously do not limp but I would open to a standard amount maybe 50 to 75 percent of the time...If there is a reason to think the table is tight or loose etc I would adjust this of course. The problem is if called or raised it causes issues for us being out of position. On the button it is much better to have a hand like this. UTG it is nerve racking and can get you knocked out.

#3

22nd October 2016, 1:57 PM

FrankieWilde [2]

most often not profitable and brings problems. If you open to receive a call or re-reise. If you do not hit the flop, you play out of position and it's hard to win the hand, in case you hit the flop it is possible to lose all your chips, or a large part of the stack. So I see the situation from that perspective

#4

22nd October 2016, 2:17 PM

lovemiscou [2,585]

Poker at: poker stars

Game: NL holdem

re: Poker & Final Table AJoff and AJsuit

AJ is a tricky hand to play in early position. It there is 9 players at table i will open with a 2 and a half BB raise, if i get called, i proceed with extreme caution if an ace comes. If i get rerased i usually just fold unless it's from a loose player, then i would call and proceed with extreme caution.

#5

22nd October 2016, 7:04 PM

asedu [592]

Online Poker at: =$+

i think it good to play. it's tricky BUT it's final table and you have to make money to stay ahead. You can not wait for AA forever.

#6

22nd October 2016, 7:50 PM

DonPatron560 [50]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: nhl

AJs with Utg position at the final table, I would have played fold

#7

22nd October 2016, 7:54 PM

Jester36rus [213]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

"You cannot wait for AA forever" -- such a good phrase! So AA does not have incredible equity in addition.

As for topic subject, I would not like to advise something specific here. There is so much nuances. In general (when you are the spherical horse in vacuum :-) ) you need to play this hand in 60% rounds. But, you're not the spherical horse, and there is not vacuum space around -- so much details must be considered to make decision.

#8

22nd October 2016, 8:30 PM

BCK777 [176]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Holdem NL

re: Poker & Final Table AJoff and AJsuit

I think that AJ suited was not such a bad hand but not a good hand this is problem in UTG sitiuaation ! It is necessary for any of these open arms because it makes no sense to wait for the AA .

#9

22nd October 2016, 11:13 PM

Tech101205 [622]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: all games

opening AJ from UTG position is an unprofitable move and should go into muck
But AJs is not bad though

#10

23rd October 2016, 7:40 AM

karl coakley [506]

Poker at: ACR

I get that raising AJ from UTG is not profitable, but we're talking in the long run/grand view of things. You are not going to be successful if you play that way...but at a final table, I would have raised it.

In a single hand, anything can happen. Most hands are pretty close to a coin flip. You can fold if you get a big re-raise. I don't think its profitable to fold AJs at a final table in an unopened pot.

#11

23rd October 2016, 1:07 PM

George Lewis [135]

I tend to agree with Karl. Grinding cash games or early in a tournament you can fold AJ from UTG and not lose sleep over it. Once you reach the final table you may not have the luxury. In all depends of course. You may be in very good shape and feel it isn't worth the risk but most of the time you will need to open this with a raise and fold if re raised or shoved on. I would have no hard rule on it. Like I posted above I would play it more often than not but I would fold it sometimes also. Be flexible.