People don't want yet another divisive political campaign, for sure. Even the election seemed to greeted with another weary shrug. This is not the same as endorsing the course we appear to be on though.

Oh I agree. I think people are going to grin and bear it for now though.

As the Brexit deal progresses and the reality sinks in things will get more messy.

Oh I agree. I think people are going to grin and bear it for now though.

As the Brexit deal progresses and the reality sinks in things will get more messy.

That's correct and it's something the author of the article Danny posted earlier discusses. Appealing to the pro-Brexit, working class vote makes a definite tactical sense, and it's thanks to Corbnyn's force of personality (or if you like, media image) that he's been able to do this, but it's going to be increasingly hard to maintain the compromise between "red UKIP" and pro-remain students and professionals as reality approaches.

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That's correct and it's something the author of the article Danny posted earlier discusses. Appealing to the pro-Brexit, working class vote makes a definite tactical sense, and it's thanks to Corbnyn's force of personality (or if you like, media image) that he's been able to do this, but it's going to be increasingly hard to maintain the compromise between "red UKIP" and pro-remain students and professionals as reality approaches.

I think the one thing that might work in Corbyn's favour is the latter group have nowhere to place their vote. This is certainly what I feel like (and one of the reasons I don't like Corbyn's takeover of the Labour party, though I recognise it's delivered other positives). There's no one I can back who reflects anything close to a anti-Brexit position.

I don't know tbh. May is weak - Tories have been talking about a leadership challenge after the summer (big question is who?). I'm pretty sure they'll fight like grim death not to have an election though. I don't know to what degree that'll be possible if Labour does manage to sink some of their key legislation. Labour would still have to win 65 seats (IIRC) to form a majority govt so the possibility of a Corbyn government is very unlikely.

More on Assad-cheering fascists at the top of Labour here: https://order-order.com/2017/07/12/t...sad-and-putin/ (yes, it is a Guido Fawkes link but the tweets are all genuine). This dude asked an Arab activist I know (Oz Katerji) "do you support Al-Qaeda?". Oz commented afterwards that he'd never experienced outright bigoted abuse like that from the Tories.

I think JC and his supporters will shape the culture of the party for a long time. In a lot of ways, they flourish in opposition, doing best when insulated from the realities of being in power.

What I find sad is that I can imagine an alternate recent past where the Left saw past its collective blindness and supported the revolution in Syria. It could've been a popular cause, just as the struggle for Palestinian rights is. Instead we've got blank ignorance at best and active support for genocide and war crimes at worst.