I briefly putted with mine today . I've never used anything besides Innova-based stuff (except for a brief MVP stint) so take it for what it's worth. I think these things are just shallow, thumbtrack-less Rhynos with a tad more glide.

P1 is an Aviar Pure isn't. P1 is tacky floppy Pure is more rigid and less tacky even in base line plastic. I flip P1s Pures in softer material than Opto flip a little at high power and the Opto doesn't with a clean throw but at 100 % i get some wrist rolling at times and even the Opto shows that mercilessly like a Comet. The Pure has a slight glide advantage. Both fade a little but very little and there are only a few less fading discs.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

ferretdance03 wrote:You're not likely to get a definitive answer to that, business contracts and all that.

Aww well. I figured there would be some sort of idea without full disclosure.

This may be petty, but I don't want to throw Innova or anything associated with them due to their recent practices and the lack of disregard that they have had in doing so. I'm glad that there are new disc golf companies that are offering something similar to or better than Innova. I thought I could justify sticking with Discmania if the there was little to no percentage that Innova received from their sales.

ferretdance03 wrote:You're not likely to get a definitive answer to that, business contracts and all that.

Aww well. I figured there would be some sort of idea without full disclosure.

This may be petty, but I don't want to throw Innova or anything associated with them due to their recent practices and the lack of disregard that they have had in doing so. I'm glad that there are new disc golf companies that are offering something similar to or better than Innova. I thought I could justify sticking with Discmania if the there was little to no percentage that Innova received from their sales.

I think you could consider discmania being pretty much just innova with a different name.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.