I know a lot of us still miss Shane, and when we did that quote-giving recently a lot of excellent Shane quotes came up. It got me thinking it was time for a conversation about our favorite Shane scenes.

Tell me: What are the very best Shane moments? The very worst Shane moments? And the just okay Shane moments….?

...Shane's best moment? His worst? His just-ok moments? Since he's my favorite, of course I'm going to be biased and say that they're all great! Um, lemme think here...

For a worst moment, how about his fight with Lishay when he escaped to Nilo with the talismans? How Shane wins the fight is kind of messed up: he threatened to have his crocodile kill Achi, a Niloan boy who was helping him. This is probably the quickest and safest way of ending the fight, but poor Achi.

Now for a better moment, hmmm... what about how he meets Karmo, and instead of both of them getting caught for trying to escape from a Conqueror island, Shane allows himself to take the full blame. If you ask me, that's a pretty bold but selfless move. Quick thinking was involved too.

Best moment hhmm I really like how much he puts Rollan in his place during the burning tide. Just okay well I got a little annoyed with Shane when he refused to forgive Yumaris even though he wanted forgiveness himself but then he forgave her and complemented her repeatedly during the burning tide so basically Shane is all awesome. The worst moment in the whole entire series is when Shane dies.

I would just like to thank you so much for making this post because I have been praying for it and I was so depressed when Shane died that I cried every night for five months (and I still cry a little bit today definitely around September 13th. It is just really nice to know that he is getting some love and respect for once. My little gift from God deserved better.

To be honest, I've always felt like Shane's a mixture of different parts of the Four Heroes. Conor's described as the calm, patient shepherd, but technically when you consider all that Shane can put up with, he's pretty patient too (ex: from being punched by Meilin, dealing with his own sister, putting up with Rollan's sass, etc). Speaking of Rollan, I can't help but think of him whenever Shane snaps back something smart to someone. Then like Meilin, Shane's a fighter at heart. Finally like Abeke, he tries to believe in the best of people (ex: Drina, Tahlia, and every Redcloak). Also like her, he has an older sister and a mother who died when he was young.

Icedragon I have often related Shane to Abeke (and worthy to Meilin). We just need two more redcloaks (preferably two girls to be Conor and Rollan) I actually have a fanfiction in my head where there were two redcloaks named Kamarji (Conor) and Flower (Rollan). I think a gender-bent four fallen would be funny. I also reverse the ships to be a Shane/Flower (I think the redcloaks would tease them mercilessly about their ship name being Shower)

Also I find it interesting that Shane is a fighter at heart but he tries to avoid his uncles lessons.

My fave moments were all the moments when he was with Abeke, because I was constantly hoping for more Shaneke.( I ship it so much), but I kind of liked it when he died, even though that was literally the end of my life. They never even got to saythat they liked each other.Whyyyyy?(goes crazy).

I've actually daydreamed about Worthy, Jolt, Howl, and Talon forming their own group that sort of parallels the Four Heroes. Each one would come from a different nation with a spirit animal, personality, and role on the team that is altogether a mix of different heroes. Stead would act as the team's 5th member to represent Stetriol, act as leader, and overall add more power in a fight.

Worthy is honestly the hardest one for me to draw parallels to though, so I can't help being curious. How does he remind you of Meilin?

I also feel like the only good thing about Gar is the fact that he's more of a father to Shane than Shane's own father. Part of Gar's job was to teach Shane how to fight and instruct him to be king after all. Maybe I'm being biased here but I think that Shane would have been the strongest fighter in the series, and credit can technically go to Gar's training. However Gar's lessons on being king are... very questionable. He falls under the "rule with an iron fist" motif.

Meilin- A once selfish brat who realized that having friends is more important than being right. Sound familiar (Meilin's and Worthy's character arc is practically the same)

A lot of people are mentioning that Shane threatened Achi but that is one of my favorite Shane moments because he could of easily killed Lishay (that was her right?) but decides to knock her out even though she made it very clear that she intended to kill him. I mean with Kovo's talisman he knew the plan was going to work so why not? It is exactly what I would have done.

Also, is it just me or does Shane seem to get a lot more guilty from the time of the book of Shane to The Burning Tide. Did he realize or see how much damage he thinks that he had/has caused? Did some of the redcloaks tease him about it(looking at you Talon not that I am pointing fingers)? Did he meet from people who hated the devourer and made him think of himself in a different way (I always wondered if somebody found he was the devourer and tortured him because of it)? Did he lose one of his redcloaks early on and blame himself for it? Obviously I have spent a long time thinking about this.

I am the only one who has imagined Shane being like the mom of the year to the redcloaks and shouting stuff like "This is why we don't stab people" and "No, I will not let you duel over soup"? We difently need some of those (mom)ments. See what I did there?

Also, I just realized that Shane really likes A names. For example, Alix, Achi, Abeke, Anya. Wow. That's a lot of names.

I am totally waiting for that one redcloak who had/has a obsessive crush on Shane (its either Talon or Alix or me... anyone would work though). We all know there had to be one (I can just imagine Shane trying to shake off a group of fangirls).

This is completely random but I song that reminds me of him during the duel is called Words fail from Dear Evan Hason and the song 'king and lionheart' is perfect for Shabeke.

Lol, Shane being a mother to the Redcloaks would be great! Speaking of moms though, how about Shane's own mother? Shane's little flashback story about her just always seemed so cute to me, and she's honestly just a wonderful mother! But then she also foreshadows things.

"This is the prince of Stetriol; he'll never bow to a mere snake." (*Cough* Gerathon)

I can't help but wonder if Shane actually thought of her at times throughout the main series, or if he feels like she would be disappointed to see how he turned out.

I've been trying for a while to figure out just how Shane's guilt builds up. I'm not sure if a small part of it has always secretly been there, but by Book of Shane #2 and The Evertree, Shane's definitely having regrets. I think Achi's story of what happened to his village, plus the deaths of Drina, Gar, and Renneg, opened his eyes to the war's destruction.

If I can add my own list of songs, how about The Scientist (Coldplay) for Shabeke, Dream Come True (Casey and Jeff Williams) which can work for either Shya or ShanexTalon, and Cold (by the Williams again) which I've always imagined from Stead's perspective. Words Fail is really good though!

Since we are talking about Shane's family lets talk a little bit about the father. I honestly think he would be a good and caring father if it wasn't for the bonding sickness. I find it really sad that he is so scared of/hates his father. I always wondered how Drina felt.

Also, I think that one of the reasons that Shane believed that Kovo would help him because I think he secretly liked Zerif and may have thought of him as a father (hint why he was so betrayed). I feel like Magda was a mother to him and I think that she may be the ambassador of Stetriol and I really want her to come back. I really want Magda, Achi, Anya and Viktor to meet. I really want Viktor back I mean they couldn't have had all these characters for nothing. (maybe Abhay)