We met with Tamron's Stacie Errera at Photokina 2018 in Cologne, Germany where we discussed the brand's unique identity, product development prioritization, future lens plans and the importance of user feedback.

How is Tamron different from other lens manufacturers?

Our focus on customer service at all aspects of the users’ experience makes us different. We’re very focused on education - we like keeping our customers up on the latest techniques to create great photography. So whether it’s in-person workshops, working with our local authorized dealer base to bring workshops to stores, our magazine or our newsletter, we’re very focused on education. We’re also focused on support - all of our products have a six-year warranty. We have standard three-business-day turnaround for repairs with no extra charge for every customer - it doesn’t matter who you are. If you have a lens and you need a repair, you send it in and you get it back within three days. That’s the best in the industry.

We have standard three-business-day turnaround for repairs with no extra charge for every customer

Is Tamron’s three-day repair turnaround for US customers only?

It’s worldwide. Almost all markets now have that. Any place we have a subsidiary, it’s three days and anywhere we have a distributor, it’s mostly three days. This policy actually came as a mandate from our president to increase confidence in Tamron lenses and Tamron customer service.

And our overall philosophy or feeling we want customers to have - which extends into the lens design itself - is a ‘human touch quality’. We want that to extend beyond the product. We strive really hard to work closely with our customers. We hear what they have to say and work with them on social media and in person to give them good service. So I think it sets us apart a little bit, how closely we try to listen to and help motivate and mentor our customers.

The Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD is the most compact F2.8 zoom available for Sony E-mount. Also important: It's very sharp.

How do customer needs and feedback play into the design and development of new lenses?

We do a few customer surveys a year where we find out what people are looking for. Also any feedback that my tech team or sales team might get is fed to me and then it goes up through the chain. With our subsidiaries, we sit down several times a year and put together our thoughts and make recommendations - these are based off of what people are asking for, what they feel they need and what they feel might be missing from a current lens line. Sometimes people bring up technologies and maybe you’ll think the idea is crazy, but we still pass it on. So we definitely try to pass all that information up to our headquarters.

Who do you see as Tamron’s user base? Is it pros, enthusiast, or a combo of both?

It’s a combo of both. We do several professional tradeshows a year and have very busy booths and a lot of customers there. As we put together our VIP program we’re seeing all the customers who own multiple lenses, so we do have a lot of pros out there. I’d say we’re maybe 60% enthusiast, 40% pro.

We want to make it affordable so [photographers] can have four, five, or six lenses in their bag without going broke

Our enthusiasts, they run the gamut from first entry-level DSLR / ILC users up to serious enthusiast that have been using cameras for 20+ years, many of whom came out of the film days. We really have a wide range of users. And again, just looking at our database with the VIP program - how many people own multiple lenses - we know our users really are gear-intensive customers. They’re into getting new lenses; many update their cameras, then get new lenses to match.

Tell me more about Tamron’s VIP program.

Any customer that registers their Tamron USA lenses purchased after 2011 are eligible for Tamron USA’s VIP program. If they have four lenses, five lenses or six+ lenses there’s silver, gold and platinum VIP.

We just had all our platinum members out at a VIP summit in Santa Fe for four days of seminars and field workshops. They brought their lenses and it’s amazing to see these customers that have lots of gear but continue to get new lenses to make sure they have the right tool for the job. We want to make it affordable for them so they can have four, five, or six lenses in their bag without going broke.

How important is affordability to your long-term growth and vision for Tamron?

It’s definitely high up there. Our goal is to number one, make sure the lens is high quality. The second goal for us, depending on the category of the lens, is definitely size and weight. So looking at the Sony FE and E-mount, for example, we’re definitely looking at compactness and lightweight designs as key features of those products.

But we also do look to keep the price in an affordable range for the customer. One of the philosophies of the company is we want to make photography accessible for everyone. By having tools that can be more affordable for the photographer, we can expand their bag and make sure they have the right tool for the types of photography they like to do.

One of the philosophies of the company is we want to make photography accessible for everyone

What about for DSLRs, is size and weight still a high consideration?

For both mirrorless and DSLR size and weight are a consideration. For example, the 17-35mm F2.8-4 for DSLRs, it is the lightest and most compact in its class of lenses that are F4 or faster. If you look at the 15-30 F2.8 for DSLR, while it’s definitely a large lens with it’s constant 2.8 aperture, it is still the only lens in the category with stabilization. So it's not compact, but within the category it still has advantages.

How important a consideration is video when Tamron develops lenses?

It’s a high consideration. We are trying to make sure the motors in our lenses are as silent as they can be. However, depending on who the videographer is and what they’re filming, they may be using manual focus anyway. The new 28-75 F2.8 for Sony FE has a rapid extra-silent drive (RXD) and it is definitely geared toward video because we know people are using Sony full-frame to shoot video more so than on some other systems.

A sample photo shot with the Tamron SP 15-30mm F2.8 Di VC USD G2.

The 28-75 F2.8 for Sony FE is one of our favorite lens available for full-frame E-mount. How this lens been received by customers and will we see other full-frame Sony E-mount lenses soon?

That lens has definitely been very well-accepted by Sony shooters worldwide. Right now we’re still in a very heavy demand situation. Supply is catching up, though. I think it’s really the first lens that seems to fit the form factor of the camera itself. That balance and that lightweight design without compromising performance, everything about it fits the form factor and goal for what that system is all about. So definitely, with the acceptance of this, we’ll see more from Tamron for Sony mirrorless cameras.

We’ll see more from Tamron for Sony mirrorless cameras

Tamron now makes lenses for Sony FE, E, A, Nikon F, Canon EF, M, Micro Four Thirds, Pentax K-mounts. With all these mounts, how does Tamron prioritize what lenses they are going to make?

We look at the market and see where there are gaps - what’s moving, what’s not moving.

Really the past few years have been dedicated to analyzing the mirrorless portion of the market. With all the recent introductions to mirrorless I think it’s very evident that the market is swiftly moving toward mirrorless dominance. But that’s not to say full-frame DSLRs are not still strong. My opinion is that people will continue, for at least the next few years, using multiple formats. I have my DSLR I use for some situations and I have my mirrorless I use for other situations - I have my smartphone that I use still for others. So I think we’re in a place where each consumer is a multi-format user. Obviously there are people that are mirrorless-only, DSLR-only. And obviously there are pros not ready to make the jump to mirrorless yet. But overall, it’s a fun time to be making lenses.

Really the past few years have been dedicated to analyzing the mirrorless portion of the market

Do you have any prediction for how much of your business will be represented by mirrorless lenses rather than SLR lenses?

Right now we have a couple of mirrorless lenses plus the recent introduction of the full-frame Sony mirrorless. I think we’ll move along with the market. The US market is swiftly catching up to some other markets in the world. And I think we’ll see some changes worldwide for Tamron over the next few years. But it’s hard for me to attach a number or percentage to that at this point. But we’re definitely moving with the market.

All-in-one zooms for DSLRs are still a crucial part of Tamron's portfolio. The Tamron 100-400mm F4.5-6.3 Di VC USD for APS-C - which this photo was shot with - offers a good balance of quality and affordability.

We now have two new full frame mounts, Canon R and Nikon Z, as well as the announcement of the Panasonic/Leica/Sigma L-mount alliance. Is there talk about making lenses for these mounts?

I think we need to get those cameras into our engineers’ hands and analyze them and see what they’re all about and make determinations from there. I think that we’re keenly looking at all these different mounts and I think it’s an important part of the market today. I’m not involved in the talks over in Japan, but I would assume there is definitely a strong interest in these.

I think we’ll see some changes worldwide for Tamron over the next few years

Sigma, Panasonic and Leica announced their L-mount partnership at Photokina. Has Tamron considered making partnerships with other brands in similar fashion?

At this point in time, there’s none I’m aware of. That doesn’t mean there won’t be partnerships in the future.

What’s the immediate future hold for Tamron?

I think we’ll continue expanding our lineup. We'll be continuing our G2-series, the 15-30 F2.8 G2 now completes the SP (Superior Performance) trio of fast, image-stabilized zooms. It was very important for us to complete that trio. We’ll also be filling in the full-frame arena and raising the bar for all-in-ones, an area of the market where we are the leader. It’s just a progression of filling and finding areas of need as the market changes.

Editors' note: Dan Bracaglia

Tamron is a brand increasingly putting out lenses I want to get my hands on, from their outstanding, stabilized SP 15-30mm F2.8 Di G2 to their perfectly sized 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD - my favorite lens for Sony FE without question. Both of these lenses represent unique designs within their chosen mounts.

2018 is an exciting time for third-party lens brands

2018 is an exciting time for third-party lens brands, but with the number of mirrorless mounts growing, it's as important as ever for these companies to carefully consider what they prioritize. Tamron seems to understand this though - lens development boils down to a careful mix of user feedback and market analysis.

Though all-in-one zooms for DSLRs have long been the brand's bread-and-butter, here's hoping we'll even see other well-sized, constant-aperture mirrorless zooms in the near future given the market success of the 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD and Stacie's mention of 'changes worldwide for Tamron over the next few years.'

...with Tamron's new commitment to three-day repair turnarounds, their lenses are looking more desirable than ever

Speaking of mirrorless, Stacie wouldn't give me any indication what plans the company has for the new Nikon Z and Canon RF-mounts. This isn't terribly surprising given how new they are, but it will be interesting to see whether existing mirrorless models eventually become available for these new mirrorless mounts.

At the end of the day, I'm thankful that brands like Tamron and Sigma exist. Though they take very different approaches to lens development, both are going to great lengths to ensure that there are a lot of cool lens choices on the market. And with Tamron's new commitment to three-day repair turnarounds, their lenses are looking more desirable than ever.

Comments

Well done Tamron. I am a Nikon camera man (D7200, D750 and D850) and Tamron adept. After my initial flirt years ago I was surprised with the 150-600mm which I still use weekly for bird photography. I was blown of my feet with the 15-30mm f2.8 which is better and cheaper than the Nikon equivalent. I added the 70-200mm f2.8 G2 which is superb. The 90mm f2.8 Macro is best value for money on the market today. I couldn't have bought all these lenses if I had chosen Nikon. The VC works flawless and I currently see no reason to go into mirrorless with Nikon !

Love my new e-mount lens: Tamron 28-75 f2.8 on my Sony A7rII. Several reviewers gave it a bad time about how the Zoom ring was closest to the external lens element - what they didn't know is that technique makes it easier to put the "close-focus" magic into the lens. At 28mm, one can almost put an object next to the external lens and focus on it. And its about 2/3 the weight of the Sony 28-70 f2.8. I bought it only as a "utility zoom" but finding i'm more often using it than the primes i have - its that good. Lightweight innovative Tamron zooms - yum!!!

I've had good service experiences with Tamron, even in the instance that one of the lenses I had wasn't a US model. I do think that it's ultimately the consumer who loses in these cases, though, as my suspicion is that lots of consumers aren't educated enough as to what they risk by buying a grey market lens. This falls on the manufacturer to 1) better educate potential buyers and 2) better regulate their distributors to minimize grey market sales.

That said, the new FE 28-75 is an absolutely brilliant lens, and I hope they come out with more similarly sized / high quality options for mirrorless.

Their 70-200/2.8 G2 is a solid lens and much more affordable than the "brand" named lenses.

If you have a Nikon F, Canon EF, Canon EF-S, or Nikon Z the 70-200/2.8 G2 is a superb lens.Sadly, I learned the hard way Tamron EF lenses are not supported completely on E mount. Sony restricts a lot on adapted lenses including FPS to 2.5. And with longer telephoto lenses, autofocus is mostly poor. (Thanks to DPR for confirming this)

But the good news is on the Z6 these lenses really shines with fast and accurate AF as well as the fastest FPS settings with AF.

Kudos to Tamron for quickly updating lenses to work flawlessly with Nikon Z cameras.

I bought a Tamron lens in my home country, (located in Europe).My company transferred me overseas for a few years, where I unfortunately broke my lens.I've shipped it to Tamron for repairs. Repairs denied !I was not asking for guarantee (expired anyway). I was OK paying for the repairs. Tamron US refused to repair as it was sold in Europe, not in North America. That was 6 years ago.So when I see Tamron claiming a 3-day turnaround for repairs ... cough cough LIARS cough cough

When samsung released 16-50 f2- f2.8 I was very happy that it didnt relent to maeketing "constabt aperture" cult. F2 at 16mm is better than f2.8. Or maybe canon 100-400 4.5-5.6 is not professionam enough?

Besides, ghere is a mistake below picture of the wolf. 100-400 is not all-in-one zoom, 18-400 is.

Nah, this is just another opportunity to have the name Sony on the front page, just look how much smaller the Tamron brand name is in relation to the Sony logo. Even the choice of the image makes that statement, otherwise why not use the Stacie Errera photo holding a Tamron lens as the front picture? At least that is clearly about a Tamron Lens.

"just look how much smaller the Tamron brand name is in relation to the Sony logo."

That would be true of a Tamron mounted on *any* ILC, whether it be on a Canon, Nikon, or Pentax. Lenses typically don't have logos larger than the camera's center badge logo. That would look quite obnoxious.

The Tamron 28-75/2.8 was probably featured because it is Tamron's most recent introduction. And it's currently only available in E-mount, which is why it's on a Sony body. And I'm sure they also wanted to demonstrate its size relative to the Sony body, since the caption states, "The Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD is the most compact F2.8 zoom available for Sony E-mount."

Yes, absolutely no possibility that the broader topic of Tamron lens 3 day service turn around could have stood alone with using a camera body that just happened to be a Sony. You don’t have to be a marketing content analysist to spot another of those squeeze the word Sony, and include a nice image of a Sony camera even if it is tangential to the main subject.

@George1958 - You're being ridiculous. Firstly, the article was not exclusively about Tamron 3 day turnaround. That was merely one topic of the interview. Secondly, the topic of size and weight of their lenses was brought up by Stacie Errera herself, and she specifically cites Sony FF mirrorless lenses as an example of what she is talking about:

"The second goal for us, depending on the category of the lens, is definitely size and weight. So looking at the Sony FE and E-mount, for example, we’re definitely looking at compactness and lightweight designs as key features of those products."

So given that it was Stacie Errera who made this point, it would seem perfectly logical to include a photo of a Tamron FE lens on a Sony FE body to illustrate her point.

And finally, there are four other photos in the article that have nothing to do with Sony. It's not as if the whole article was showing Sony cameras, lol.

Hmmm in Finland it takes two weeks just to get a firmware update done to Tamron lenses – not three days.

I think they send them to Sweden so that explains the time, but it makes recommending them hard what it comes to customer service. If that’s the thing they say makes them different on the market.

Please fix customer service in this Northern Europe country to have my recommendation. I’m using my SP 85/1.8 VC a lot, but just rarely my SP 35/1.8 VC and SP 45/1.8 VC as I’m having a Sigma 24/1.4 on the other camera usually.

Actually the importer required that I send it overseas at my risk instead of them. They refused to take it and send it. Until that is fixed, the original 150-600 will be my last Tamron ... which is a pity as there are some interesting ones.

@J.K.T: That’s non-sense. They should do better if they claim to own the market coming to customer service. I used a well-respected camera shop, Foto-Forma in Seinäjoki, to do the shipping and it didn’t cost a thing to me, just the two weeks. I’ve bought my lens from them so it might make a difference. Ask them if they can help. Good luck!

I probably could have sent it through the shop I bought it from, but the Focus Nordic office is practically next door. The system with overseas service and their attitude left a sour taste, so I won't be upgrading the firmware for that lens nor bying another one until things change for better.

Times change. 3rd party lenses used to be mediocre and had compatibility issues. That's no longer the case. It's like hotshoe flashes. 3rd party hotshoe flashes used to be pretty poor and unreliable. Now, I wouldn't even other buying an OEM flash anymore because 3rd party flashes are so good, typically offering more for less than OEM.

I just sent my d850 in for repair. I called 3 days after tracking showed it arrived to check on the status. The Nikon rep told me it takes them 3-4 days to check cameras into their system. And I have NPS priority service.

What CanonSharpShooter is referring to is the BCN data from Japan showing that Sony FF MILC market share "dropped" from 100% down to 67% in October. Canon got 22%, Nikon got 10%. But he's actually mis-interpreting the data. What it really shows is that even *after* CaNikon released their FF MILCs, 67% of FF MILC buyers *still* opted to buy Sony FE over CaNikon FF MILCs. In other words, if you were a camera store in Japan that sold 100 FF MILCs during the month of October, you would be reporting that 67 of those cameras were Sonys, 22 were Canons, and 10 were Nikons. That's still a huge win for Sony because customers were still overwhelmingly choosing Sony FE over EOS R or Z. Sony FE outsold Canon EOS R by more than 3:1, and outsold Nikon Z by more than 6:1. Given CaNikon's massive usership and how eagerly awaited these new releases were, R and Z should have grabbed at least 2/3rds of all FF MILC sales. But instead, buyers looked R and Z, and 2/3rds of them still chose Sony FE.

Just another post that justifies my proposal for a 'Best Passive Aggressive Post' tab at the top DPR... This one would be right up there in lights!If you want Canon and Nikon to get 3rd party lenses, you need to tell them to open their mounts up, otherwise you'll have to wait for Tamron, Sigma et al to reverse engineer them, or rely on which ones work with the adapters...

@Suave - EOS R was introduced Sept 5, 2018, made available for pre-order Sept 12, and hit the store shelves Oct 9. I don't think any of those dates were enough to depress EOS R sales much at all. It effectively was available for order or purchase throughout October. As for both EOS R and Z sales, if anything their sales have dropped off since the initial debut months. That certainly seems to be the case on Amazon's Best Sellers in Mirrorless rankings, where both R and Z have fallen quite a bit in the sales rankings. At this moment, the A7III is listed at #1, EOS R is at #45, Z6 is at #46.

I have to question Amazon rankings, because a) they are obviously cumulative and we don't really know the period of time over which they are calculated b) Amazon link you provided shows me a different picture. And, FWIW, I don't think that Amazon is a primary seller of these cameras.

For purely self-evident, mathematical reasons, it's a given that your market share will drop when you suddenly share the market with more players. But keep in mind that a drop in market share isn't necessarily a drop in absolute sales volume, only in relative sales volume.Another thing to keep in mind here is that Sony's 67% share comes from selling nine different models, including older ones at significant discount, whereas Canon's 22% share comes from selling just one new model. That's quite impressive IMO.

@Revenant - However, you have to consider how large Canon's usership is. What's Canon's DSLR usership compared to Sony's usership? 1000:1? 10,000:1? And yet, Sony was able to outsell Canon FF MILC 3:1, which indicates that a lot of Canon users are buying Sony mirrorless. And in light of Canon's massive user base, the overwhelming pent-up demand for Canon's FF MILC, and the fact that Sony's models have been in the market for quite some time already, the fact that Canon was only able to capture 22% (less than a quarter) of new FF MILC sales is not that impressive. The fact that Sony was STILL able to capture 2/3rds of all new FF MILC sales even AFTER consumers were given the option to choose Canon's or Nikon's FF offerings, is quite impressive-- especially in the Japanese market were historically Canon and Nikon have been far more popular than Sony. The point is that we are definitely seeing a change in consumer preferences in the mirrorless era.

@Suave - "And, FWIW, I don't think that Amazon is a primary seller of these cameras."

Amazon is the 800lb gorilla in camera sales. They are definitely a huge player in camera sales. Camera sales are such a huge part of Amazon's business that they bought DPReview. Amazon's reach is massive, and they move a ton of cameras. Amazon has 100 million Prime members. That's not even counting the millions of people who buy from Amazon who aren't prime members. In comparison, the entire population of Japan is only 127 million. So if Amazon were a country, they would have a population as large or larger than Japan. People shouldn't be dismissive of Amazon's sales. Amazon sales are so massive that major brands are becoming first-party sellers on Amazon. Even Nike is now doing this:

@T3. Dude, since Amazon updates its rankings every hour, I have the Amazon ranking window open and refresh it every once in a while. EOS R jumped from #30 to #33 in front of my eyes (that is after presumbly being at #45 in some recent past). This means one of the two things, either they move cameras by pallets, or they sell so very few of them that every sale sways the rankings.As to Canon vs Nikon vs Sony sales numbers - R is $2300, Z6 is $2000, while very very good A7ii right now, this very moment, is only $900. Even I, with all the mistrust I have when it comes to Sony longevity and reliability, am tempted.

@Suave - You need to look at relative sales rankings. Don't concentrate so much on the specific number (ie, #30 one hour vs #33 the next hour). Essentially,you can say that the EOS R is in the 30's or 40's relative to the A7III which is consistently in the top 5.

I bought the A7II. I don't get this "mistrust" nonsense. I've used Canon DSLR, Canon EOS M, Fuji X, Oly m4/3 and even Samsung NX.

Now I mainly use Sony mirrorless (APS-C and FF) and Fuji X. I don't "distrust" any one of my cameras any more than the others. They've all survived just fine. And I don't baby any of my gear. I just find that Sony works better for me because of their technology, bang-for-the-buck, and ability to use my Canon EF lenses (I bought the Sigma MC-11, $149). I'm very pleased. I also added a 3rd party battery grip for $45. I chose the one shown here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Tb8DuwfQs

I don't have recent-recent Sony experience, but there was an A330 with crapped out LCD which turned out to be soldered in, there was an F717, with a sensor that crapped out, luckily before the end of the recall, the was a digi-8 camcorder which would only take certain tapes. The latter two also featured horrid M batteries, $50-60 a pop and never lasting more than a year.A7iii vs R - one has been available since April, the other since October, and when the lens adapter is accounted for costs 25% more. Or course rankings will be different, but that's not going to last, not with Sony soon becoming one of six manufacturers.

@Suave - I've used a lowly Sony A6000 for a couple years now. I've used it in rain, snow, heat, dust. I've dropped it. It's tumbled around in my messenger bag almost every day for the last several months. Still works perfectly.

As for A7III vs EOS R, I think it was a stupid move for Canon to not put IBIS in it, and still charge more for it. Dumb. I've been using my Canon 35/1.4L on my A7II with IBIS and I'm loving it. All my non-stabilized EF lenses are now stabilized. The EOS R offers too little, too late compared to A7III. No IBIS, single SD slot, only 3fps in tracking priority AF-C (compared to 12fps on A7III), no Eye AF in AF-C, short battery life, 1.7x video crop, $300 more expensive. I just expected a lot more from Canon. It looks like the EOS R is as lackluster an introductions the 6DII was.

If you want to see Amazon sales rank now and historically, go to camelcamelcamel dot com. You have to create a free account but the site shows a graph of historic pricing and sales rank. You can't narrow down to the specific category of digital cameras, but it does show the same sales ranking category for all camera bodies, so it is 'apples for apples'. I won't comment on what I've seen, suffice to say it doesn't contradict what T3 is saying...

My 70-200mm G2 "developed" a scratch. Complained to Tamron and the next thing I know I got the shipping label. Sent the lens and they fixed it in one day and 3 days later I got it back so it took about a week in total. Now, Tamron needs to recall all G2 lenses and fix the the switch problem. Switches move all by "themselves". As far as future development they should make 18-120mm FF lens preferably F4 or brighter.

Unfortunately Nikon/Canon didn’t open their lens mount/AF specs like Sony E mount or m43. Everything has to be reverse engineered and going to be a PITA with how software dependent MILC AF is. I honestly won’t be surprised if we don’t see a native AF Z or R mount Tamron lens in the next 5yrs.

ttran88 Why won't Tamron create z mount lenses? The need to reverse engineer lenses has not stopped them from making tons of f mount lenses. And, in this article it is clear that Tamron is moving swiftly into the mirrorless market. It is unfortunate that Nikon does not open up the body info to Tamron. Sony has an advantage there. Tamron's release of the 28-75 for Sony actually piqued my interest in Sony. It will take a long while for Nikon to catch up to Sony in the native mount lens department. Nikon is relying on their adaptor but I would rather move to a mirrorless system that already offers a variety of native mount lenses. But, time is on my side.

It's not just engineering, Tamron also needs a market for Z lenses. Right now the number of Z camera owners is extremely small. Even a year from now Z ownership might not be enough for Tamron to enter the market. Plus they have to calculate how many Z camera users will potentially buy Tamron lenses. As has been stated in other posts, some people will only use Nikon lenses.

I don't necessarily disagree (especially this is all conjecture) except for the last point. A good portion of Nikon camera users have always wanted to use Nikon lenses. I don't know why the percentage of z users who want to stay oem would be greater than Nikon users in the past. As we see with the Tamron 28-75 on Sony, if you build it, they will come. Sony's market share is certainly important.

I've been VERY happy with my Tamron lenses. Started in 2010 with the 18-270, had to send it back about 6 months after purchase because the zoom was locking 1/2 way. Fixed, returned within a week. Then came the 17-50 which I still use, the 70-300. I sold the 70-300 & 18-270 and now I also have the 100-400 which I absolutely LOVE.Sometime in 2019, I hope to add a dedicated macro.

I can add my vote for Tamron's customer service. I ended up not needing the service at the end but their response was prompt and friendly. The response to my email didn't sound like an automated one. It is definitely written by an individual with their greetings, based on the questions/comments in the follow-up.

I wish I could say the same about major camera brands :(

I was hesitant when the Z bodies came out and Tamron lenses were reported to be incompatible. I liked that they put out a firmware update in three months and everything seems to be working fine now. May be, a couple of lenses still waiting... notably the 90mm Macro

I own a few Tamron lenses and I'm very satisfied with them. If you're reading this Tamron, I'd (we'd?) like to have a 12-200mm f/4.5-6.3 convenience zoom for micro4/3. Except for the expensive Oly 12-100 f/4, m4/3 long zooms start at 14mm. 12-200mm would be market niche Tamron could fill. Thanks.

It's sad they chose to start with a 14-150 for m4/3. Their lens was not smaller or cheaper than the Panasonic and Olympus brand options, so it has sold very poorly. I fear they are going to be reluctant to make specialized m4/3 lenses again.

Tamron gets props simply for introducing their 18-400 which (my specimen, at least, recognizing that there are always variables) has amazing IQ. Perfect walk around lens for outdoor activities, and I use it a lot professionally as well (mainly T&T outdoor stuff not requiring super wide or super fast lenses).

I've experienced it on two lenses that had to go back for service (one was for a can't-be-done-with-the-USB-console firmware flash, and the other was for a VC unit replacement), and can attest that their turnaround claims are true.

I am not sure this is news. I have had rapid turnovers going back a few years. Not that my lenses were broken. These were for getting my lenses cleaned and adjusted for free toward the end of the very good 6 year warranty.

@Chief Kurtz - I wouldn't hold my breath for a fast zoom for EF-M. In the entire history of EF-M, as far as I know there has only been one electronically interfaced 3rd party lens ever made for EF-M. That was the Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Di III VC introduced back in 2014. And that was definitely not a fast zoom. I think the future of EOS M is too uncertain for 3rd party manufacturers to invest much time or effort into it. That's why the only 3rd party lenses you ever see for EF-M (except for that Tamron introduced years ago) are very basic manual lenses with no electronic communication between the body and the lens. Minimal effort.

If anything, 3rd party manufacturers would make a fast zoom for the Canon RF mount. But that obviously doesn't do any good for EF-M users because there's no lens cross-compatibility between RF and EF-M.

It would make sense to make that EOS-M lens.The EOS-M has out sold all Sony cameras in places like Japan for 3 years now. More than Sony FF, APSC, and A mount combined. So obviously there are a lot more potential customers.

@Oskar P - And yet, the one and only 3rd party AF lens introduced for EOS M was four years ago. Whatever the reason, 3rd party AF lens manufacturers are avoiding EOS M. For example, Sigma makes several APS-C mirrorless lenses. They are only available for E-mount and m4/3. Every time Sigma announces a new mirrorless lens, EOS M users say, "Ah, THIS time Sigma will make it available for EOS M." Nope. The most recent one was the Sigma 56/1.4 introduced in September. Once again, not available for EOS M. Only for E-mount and m4/3:

It's most likely because Canon's mirrorless mounts (EF-M and RF) are closed protocols. E-mount and m4/3 mount are both open and available for 3rd party use. That's why it seems unlikely that Sigma will be making Canon RF lenses (or Nikon Z lenses).

T3,The reason no one is making adapters is because, Caono is protective of the mount, and Canon does not need them.

Let's face it, Canon owns the defacto ILC lens standard.

Look in the Sony forums, every day there are 2-5 threads about using the "standard" lenses on Sony cameras. You constantly brag about how you use EF lenses on Sony cameras.

And it is not just Sony. EF lenses work on EOS-M, R, E, M43, and soon Z mount.

So who cares if there ar not many adapters. Virtually every 3rd party already makes lenses that work on the format because the format uses the "standard" EF lenses. There are hundreds if not over a thousand lenses to choose from.

People do mention it often, but Canon is the global leader for making lenses used on mirrorless cameras. It's not even close either.

@Oskar P - First of all, we weren't talking about adapters. We were talking about 3rd party lenses for EF-M mount. Secondly, I agree with you that Canon is "protective of the mount", which is probably why 3rd party manufacturers have avoided making lenses for the EF-M mount. And likewise, this may also apply to the RF mount as well. Just like Canon has zealously protected the use of their EF-M mount by 3rd parties (resulting in only one 3rd party AF lens in the entire lifetime of the EF-M mount so far), Canon will also zealously protect the use of their RF mount by 3rd parties too. As you say, "Canon does not need them."

T3,We both agree that EF is pretty much the defacto lens standard for most mirrorless cameras.There are now about 8 or 9 different adapters for Sony users begging to use the more plentiful and superior Canon lenses. The demand for those adapters shows the high demand for EF lenses from Sony owners.Canon lenses are used on EOS-M cameras, the #1 mirrorless camera in Japan for several years now, and also on Sony, and a lesser extent M43.

@Oskar P - Firstly, there is a huge selection of E-mount lenses now. Secondly, the fact that there are so many people using Canon EF lenses on Sony mirrorless bodies merely indicates how many Canon DSLR users have switched to Sony mirrorless. (I am one of those people.) For example, in the month of October Sony captured 67% of FF MILC sales in Japan, compared to only 22% for Canon and 10% for Nikon. That means that even after Canon and Nikon released their FF MILCs, 2/3rds of FF MILC buyers STILL opted to buy Sony over Canon or Nikon. You can bet that a lot of those Sony FF MILC buyers were coming from Canon DSLRs. And these new Sony FF MILC users are adapting their existing EF lenses until they can replace them with native FE lenses. That's the great thing about smart adapters. It makes it easier for people to switch, because you can migrate your existing EF lenses over. You don't have to dump your entire EF lens collection.

@Oskar P - First of all, there's certainly nothing wrong with Sony MILC users having the option to either buy Sony FE lenses or Canon EF lenses (adapted). That simply gives them more options. It's great for consumer to have more options. Secondly, more often than not, when you see a Sony mirrorless user using adapted Canon EF lenses, that user is a former Canon DSLR user. Thirdly, the large number of EF adapters created by various manufacturers is simply an indicator of the popularity of Sony mirrorless. 3rd party manufacturers are just trying to cash in on the popularity of Sony mirrorless and people switching to Sony mirrorless. Finally, as convenient as it might be for people to adapt their existing EF lenses to Sony bodies, the majority of Sony mirrorless users are using native E-mount lenses. After all, there are plenty of E-mount lens available (including from 3rd parties like Tamron). And yes, maybe Canon will go on as mainly just being a supplier of lenses to Sony mirrorless :)

T3,That's right,When Sony lenses let you down or are not available there is nothing wrong with Sony MILC users buying Canon EF lenses. A huge number do it.

Canon WF lenses are kind of the standard for mirrorless cameras. They work on most systems.

And in the case of Sony, a very large number of users rely on them because they are superior to Sony lenses, or Sony lacks the lenses, or Sony lenses are way over priced. They are lucky to have the option to not buy Sony lenses.

Look at all the extremely popular EF adapters. There is not just one, but 8 or 9. You don't see that with the dead A mount lenses (they don't even work well for video on A mount!!! LOL!! Sony wants them dead)

And of course one hidden benefit is in the future it will be easy to dump Sony and switch to another system. Camera bodies these days are only used a couple years by many, but lenses are forever.

@Oskar P - So now that you can't win the argument that Canon is beating Sony in FF mirrorless sales, you're trying to make the argument that Canon is beating Sony in mirrorless lens sales? LOL. You are delusional in your belief that "a huge number" of Sony mirrorless users are going out and buying EF lenses for their Sony bodies. Sony's FE selection of lenses is now considerable, not only from Sony but also from Sigma, Tamron, Zeiss, Tokina, etc. People do use adapters, but it is certainly not preferred. It's a good stop-gap measure until you get native FE lenses. For example, I will eventually sell off all of my EF lenses and go entirely with native FE mount lenses. The Tamron 28-75/2.8 is definitely on my wish list. And I'm looking forward to seeing what other FE lenses Tamron introduces for Sony. No more need for an adapter.

Yes, Canon clearly is killing Sony in FF lens sales, for both DSLR and mirrorless.

Probably due to all the Sony users buying Canon lenses.

And as you've pointed out, Canon is currently out selling Sony on Amazon by about 10 to 1, Sonys cheap A6000 (their best seller) was only ranked around 300 in camera and photo. About 10 Canons were ranked higher as well as about 20 film cameras.(Maybe some day Amazon will the mirrorless category and put back in the dozen or mirrorless cameras that were put in the wrong category)

But this was obvious, since we know Sony global market share is down to 13% and falling.

Another great Sonce is BCN in Japan, like Amazon, it shows Sony getting pummeled.

But we are talking lenses and both Canon and Sony users use Canon lenses.The EF mount is the dominant mirrorless format and really has become a standard.

@Oskar P - You are clearly getting desperate and grasping at straws. The market is changing, and you simply can't accept it. I encountered people just like you back in the 1990s who could not accept that Canon EOS was on the rise. Some insecure Nikon users desperately tried to make every argument as to why this couldn't be happening and never would happen. Now we see the same kind of desperate, insecure people reacting to Sony in the same manner. Sorry, but change happens. Accept it.

In the 1980s I started off with Nikon F manual gear that I got from my dad. Then when autofocus SLRs came along, I switched to Canon EOS around 1991. Then when mirrorless came along, I tried Canon EOS M, Oly m4/3, Fuji X, and even Samsung NX. I owned them all. Now I mainly use Sony mirrorless and Fuji X. I don't cling to any brand as if it's a religion like some people do. Change happens and I change along with it.

I got a used Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 for my Pentax K-3. I took some photos of airliners with it at JFK Airport and posted the images on some aircraft enthusiast web sites. It was the first time I ever got compliments about the sharpness of my pictures. I got emails from aircraft enthusiasts in Scotland, Italy, and India. People I don't even know. They wanted to know about my gear. They were all surprised to learn I used a Tamron lens. And for that matter that I use a Pentax DSLR, too. Sometimes I feel sad that my decidedly "less popular" gear is so disliked by so many readers at DPReview, and that it's worthless, and that I am an uncool goofball and mixed-up schnook who stupidly wastes money on foolish things. Sometimes I wonder if I should drive my gear to some remote dumpster on the outskirts of town late at night and commit cameracide. And then just start all over with a Nikon D810 or Canon T2i or Sony NEX-5N, or some such mainstream favorite.

Well, the truth is that criticizing other people's gear is childish and a sign of emotional immaturity. So I would not worry too much about hate for Pentax gear. A good picture is a good picture, no matter the brand of equipment that produced it. In most cases technique and a good eye for a picture is the most important.

Naah, you're good. Fight the Power, David! Given how hard a life my cameras sometimes have, the super rugged Pentax looks like a great option to me, were I ready to go full frame. OK, modern full frame-I've got several old Pentax film cameras and a number of K mount lenses, and since my first real camera (acquired in 1984) was a Pentax SP500 that still works and I still sometimes shoot.. can verify Pentax durability over the long haul.

If I'm a fan for any photography-related company, I'll proclaim my fandom for Tamron. Their 15-30 (original), 70-200 G2, and 150-600 G2 are all excellent lenses and in my budget. This was neat to read and I'm excited for what they bring to Z-mount.

I find this curious, however "I’m not involved in the talks over in Japan, but I would assume there is definitely a strong interest in these." I certainly hope a VP of marketing in the USA would be talking to Japan! Maybe she means she's not talking to the engineers.

By "not involved in the talks" she meant that decisions about future development and products are made by executives at the corporate headquarters without involving the regional subsidiaries, not that she never talks to those people.

Even if the subsidiaries aren't involved in the decision-making, the information they're passing along to the global HQ is hopefully considered when making those decisions. Otherwise, it would indeed be myopic.

I doubt it's a "very high priority." After all, Z and R user base is still tiny. Also consider that even AFTER the release of the Z and R bodies, 67% of Japanese FF MILC buyers STILL opted to buy Sony FF MILC, while only 22% chose Canon and 10% chose Nikon (according the BCN sales data for October). In other words, if you had a camera store in Japan that sold 100 FF MILCs in October, you would be reporting that 67 of those cameras were Sonys, 22 of them were Canons, and 10 of them were Nikons. And that's not even counting the many Sony FF MILC sold over the past several years. Needless to say, the user base for Z and R mounts is still tiny and probably not a "very high priority" yet. And it may not be a priority for quite some time. For example, Sigma has never made any of their mirrorless lenses available in EF-M mount. And Tamron made only one EF-M lens back in 2014 (the 18-200mm F/3.5-6.3), but haven't done any since then. EF-M arguably has a larger user base than Z/R.

But there is opportunity to sell lenses with little "native lens" competition.

We've already seen Fotodiox and others talk about new autofocus EF adapters as well as those slow AF for manual lens adapters for z mount. (and no 2.5 FPS limit) They'll be here by February.

We've seen Tamron quickly update F lenses to work on Z mount.

They clearly have made Z mount and R mount a priority.It should be easy to add Z and R mount to existing lenses.My bet is within a year most FF mirrorless lenses (especially manual focus) will come in Z and R mount.

@Oskar P - Canon and Nikon have tons of DSLR lenses that can be used on their mirrorless bodies. Combine that with the fact that EOS R and Nikon Z usership is still tiny, and that means that the sales opportunity is still quite small. So for now, I think Tamron will concentrate on where most of the (mirrorless) market is, which is E-mount. In October, 2/3rds of the FF MILC sales in Japan went to E-mount. Given the huge usership of Canon and Nikon, that 2/3rds should have gone to Canon and Nikon, especially considering that they were new debuts compared to Sony's which have been in the market for a while. So the adoption rate of R-mount and Z-mount still trails behind E-mount by a huge margin. Plus, there's the issue of Z and R being closed protocols. This has deterred 3rd parties from making lenses for EF-M. EF-M has been around since 2012, and in that time only ONE electronically interfaced 3rd party lens has ever been made for EF-M, compared to dozens of lenses for E-mount.

T3, whine all you want, but it is clear Tamron and Sigma (and others) have made Z and R mount a priority. Sigma and Tamron rushed statements out telling everyone which lenses were compatible and which son will be.

Fotodiox will have an EF to Z mount AF adapter in 60 days.

Thanks to Tamron the 70-200/2.8 G2 is supported and works superbly on Z mount, but Tamron offers no support for it on E mount.

I don't think it's wise to judge much of the future of a company's support for a given lens mount on sales for the very first month that those two new mounts debuted. Also, how many of those 66 Sonys were $500 models versus a new $3000 (more or less) Nikon or Canon?

Oskar: There's no certainty yet. For all we know, the R and Z are emulating the native DSLR protocols with an adapter... and using something completely different with native lenses. That's at least the way that Sony does it, and I see no reason for C&N to take a different approach.Nikon in particular have been itching to get rid of third-party lens suppliers. This could well be their chance.

Sony was either short sighted or deliberately was trying to kill A mount.

They created one option which uses an SLT mirror, but with the original AF system from the A55/33 and disables the cameras AF system. Their other option let's the camera use its own AF system, but BOTH options cripple much of the functionality. My A7riii and former A7Rii have many options greyed out and limit the FPS to 2.5 while autofocusing.

No matter, Sony doesn't provide full compatibility for A mount lenses.

Nikon appears to be doing something very different. Most modern Sigma lenses, at least 6 Tamron lenses, and over 90 Nikon lenses have virtually full compatibility. Many users are even saying their F mount lenses are faster or work better on their Z cameras.

@Mr Bolton - "Also, how many of those 66 Sonys were $500 models versus a new $3000 (more or less) Nikon or Canon?"

Then answer is zero because Sony doesn't have any $500 FF mirrorless cameras. The fact remains that Sony bodies did far outsell the new bodies from Canon and Nikon by a significant margin. That means more users in the E-mount user pool.

Instead of camera sales, think of these as movie ticket sales. In October, 67% if ticket sales went to Sony's movie (even though their movie had been in theaters for months already), while Canon and Nikon's debut movies got only 22% and 10% of ticket sales respectively. If these cameras were movies, they would be considered flops. And what's even more striking is the fact that Canon and Nikon have a huge fanbase and these "movies" were highly anticipated, so we would expect much higher ticket sales. Yet, more of them ended up going to the Sony movie.

Oskar: Are you kidding me? Nikon *completely* abandoned their AF-D lenses. They also didn't implement an indexing tab on the FTZ adapter, thus screwing classic-lens users *hard*. For me, the most disappointing part of the Z's launch was Nikon's attitude towards people with older lenses - basically "f you".Sony at least made the (clunky) LA-EA4 with the SLT mirror and a built-in AF motor for older designs.Anyway, you seem to have not understood my point - Sony implement two lens protocols on their mirrorless cameras, and that has nothing to do with strategy. It's simply a matter of adjusting the camera's behavior to the specific type of lens used (A or E mount), and everything points towards Canon and Nikon doing exactly the same on their 35mm mirrorless.

The A7ii is sell at half price. If you subtract the lens value, it is selling close to $600. So what you said is misleading.

We do know from Amzon that Canon ILCs are out selling Sony ILCs near 10:1 right now. Sony doesn't even have a single ILC in the top 300 "Camera and Photo". (Canon and Nikon have 10 or so) Their sales reported by BCN are almost as bad.

No matter, Sony has a 13% global market share that is declining. Dumping old stock is a sign of desperation.Just as Sony mirrorless sales declined rapidly in Japan (Canon mirrorless passed them 3 years ago) it is expected their FF mirrorless sales to plummet over time too. And we are already seeing this in Japan.

@Mr Bolton - That's part of the weakness of Canon and Nikon coming late to market. They can't compete on price or Sony's breadth of offerings. And it's not just about the A7II. Consider:

Z7: 45mp FF, $3400A7R II: 42mp FF, $2800

There's also the A7SII ($2200) which Canon or Nikon don't have a counterpart to (ultra high sensitivity and high dynamic range).

There's the 20fps A9, which is now only $3500.

And of course, the A7III is an excellent camera with superior AF, dual card slots, better battery life, etc. relative to CaNikon's releases.

My point is that there are various reasons why Sony is selling more FF MILC, not just because of the A7II. It's a bit shortsighted to just attribute it to the A7II. Besides, the BCN data is for Japan sales in October. The A7II price reduction occurred in the US in November.

The XQD memory is supposed to be fast enough (and it can still get a lot faster, where as SD is just about maxed out) so as to not need two slots.

Yes Sony wins on price, there's no debate there. Because they did enter the market first.. however I wouldn't write CaNikon off just yet.. they've both shown over decades that they've always got a few tricks up their sleeves. Also, ergonomics and UI matter. In those areas, Sony isn't such the clear winner as they are in price.

The same applies to memory cards and image files too. Ideally, you want two (two memory cards, two copies of each image file) because if you have two and lose one then you still have one. But if you only had one and you lose that one than you have none. Hence the "Two is one, one is none" mantra.

"however I wouldn't write CaNikon off just yet.. they've both shown over decades that they've always got a few tricks up their sleeves."

Maybe. But they no longer benefit from their dominant duopoly that they enjoyed in the DSLR market. And the younger generation doesn't feel as strongly about Canon or Nikon as the older generation does. Times change. Nikon dominated the SLR market from the 1960s to early 1990s. But upstart EOS came along and Nikon lost their dominance. Times change.

Yep, Sony better do whatever it takes to defend that market share. They probably only have a generation or two to consolidate their mirrorless lead among the non-legacy users. Because when legacy users start to come over and bodies like the Z6 are around $1000 too, the market share might start to lock in the way it was in the DSLR market.

@NickR - People said the same thing about Canon EOS back in the day: that EOS only had a very short and temporary window in which to stay ahead of Nikon in the SLR market. Well, it wasn't a short and temporary window. Canon was still able to overtake Nikon market share, and stayed ahead. The fallacy of your opinion is that it all depends on "legacy users." But the reality is that Canon EOS rose to dominance over Nikon mostly by capturing a new generation of users who had little or no "legacy" with any existing camera system. Yes, they converted a lot of "legacy" Nikon users, but they also grabbed a lot of new users who were entering the market. I think Sony is doing much of the same, using that same two-prong strategy: converting users and grabbing new users.

Plus, I think it'll be a while before a Z6 gets down to $1000. Sony A7II came out in November 2014, four years ago!

For Tamron, Nikon is the only option.Sony is poor with adapted lenses. Even after the latest FW updates....Rishi (here at DPR) said:No, as far as we can tell, telephoto performance of adapted lenses is still quite poor (outside of the central region). Continuous shooting with adapted lenses is still limited to 3 fps when using AF-C.

Even A9 owners complain AF-C is not good. Sony just lacks lenses compared to Nikon.

@T3 - "People said the same thing about Canon EOS back in the day: that EOS only had a very short and temporary window in which to stay ahead of Nikon in the SLR market. Well, it wasn't a short and temporary window."

Nikon didn't start catching up to Canon technologically for almost a decade. The F5 was 1996, AFS lenses started in 1998. The Canon and Nikon entries are decidedly more competitive than the F4 was in 1989 (if you cared about AF). It's entirely questionable whether Sony will even have a technological advantage by the time Canon and Nikon get to Gen 2.

Tamron, listen, please design and release a FE [70-100] -200/210mm F4.0 VC that has similar sharpness and don't mind in shorter FL 100-200 mm for example to be lighter and smaller. I will sell Sony FE 70-200G/4.0 OSS and buy such lens right away. I bet you can sell tons of copies.

Here in the UK the warranty is 5 years and has been forever(?).......Makes me doubt the other stuff. I tried reading the article as I like Tamron lenses and always have, but it was a struggle to keep my attention. There didn't seem much new to talk about. Still I'm happy with my 100-400 and 150-600..

I just took a brief look at the latest edition of the Tamron magazine, and it's pretty decent. Since it's their own magazine, it's not filled to the brim with fluffy advertisements. Yes, they obviously advertise their own stuff but, at least they tie those into the stories/interviews. Kind of difficult for a general photography magazine (not tied to a brand) to do that.

I absolutely agree that it's the best lens when viewed comprehensively. The balance of performance to size/weight and value is exceptional, and I would be very interested in seeing an ultrawide and telephoto zoom from them in the same vein.

ACPhotos gets it. It’s the best lens designed for that system. That doesn’t mean it is the fastest or sharpest. It’s the lens that best meets the purpose of mirrorless. I am looking forward to seeing it appear in other mirrorless mounts. Certainly poor Nikon Z users could do with a lens like this.

Camera rubbing, why are you obsessed with sharpness? I never said sharpness is what matyers. Why not some 16-35 not best? Why not a 70-200? "Best" depends what you need. If you need 1:1 macro or 400mm, Tamron is the worst lens.Read my previous comment again.

Ok, stopped discussing because only I am discussing here.Your comment is like saying "Porsche 911 is the best car" without mentioning under which conditions and for which budget. 911 is one of the worst choices if you need to drive in a road construction site.

The Tamron SP series (35,45 and 85 1.8) is exceptionally good. No counterpart available from Canon with VC/IS and weathersealing. After the ridiculous pricing at the beginning (45mm f.e. $1199) it's now at $450 streetprice/new... and for that price it's a damn steal!The times are gone where Tamron and Sigma had mediocre optics. I usually prefer Tamron instead of Sigma ART because they seal their equipment.

@eugene1979The mount is a very important part of the whole sealing. And if it's "only" a small sealing why doesn't Sigma provide this $1 part? The Canon 35mm f2 IS not sealed in any way. In fact with sealing I'd choosen that one instead of my 45mm 1.8VC.

@Camera RubbingNo Art has had any sealing, at least no Art I know of in my own experience...

@ Vscd - “No Art has had any sealing, at least no Art I know of in my own experience...”

As far as I know they have been sealing them since the 85mm or so. My 85mm has a the mount gasket similar to my Tamron 35mm. My 18-35, 50-100, 50 and 24-35 Arts don’t have it. I believe lenses like the new 40, the 24-70, 70-200, 14, 105 etc should be all sealed.

You are right... they seem to changed that behaviour. I ended up concerning them after I used the 35mm, 50mm and 24mm.... maybe I could give them a second look now, after I destroyed a cam with a 35mm in heavy rain.

I recently bought a Tamron 100-400m VC. It is much sharper than I expected and CA is very negligible. VC also functions very well. I used it on EOS M6 (with adapter). Tried it on EM1 II at 400mm with Metabones adapter and sharpness is also much better then I expected.

Does thee Metabones Canon adapter control the Canon lens electronics so they works as expected when shooting through the Oly?

I've been very pleased with the optical quality of my Nikon to M43 adapter, though it has no electronic passthrough. I've got some Canon EF glass and have considered buying the Metabones adapter for either my Oly or Fuji bodies.

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