what you dont recognize is that "commander in chief" is only ONE of the jobs the president has to perform.

a cinc is only as good as his (or her) generals.

and you dont really say anything, mostly you just post biased articles -- the same as i do

the articles refute each other, while we basically say nothing and act as the medium. my guess is that if we sat down over a couple of beers, we would have a much better conversation. still might not agree, but at least we'd actually talk.

Did you miss this sentence?" the McCain campaign should be buoyed by the fact that 530 economists have signed a statement endorsing his plans."

Just to review, 530 economists signed a statement endorsing McCain's plans and 100 (maybe more?) signed a statement saying that Obama's tax plans "are wrong for the American economy. They defy both economic reason and economic experience."

Just because I know you aren't likely to read the actual letter, here it is:

Barack Obama argues that his proposals to raise tax rates and halt international trade agreements would benefit the American economy. They would do nothing of the sort. Economic analysis and historical experience show that they would do the opposite. They would reduce economic growth and decrease the number of jobs in America. Moreover, with the credit crunch, the housing slump, and high energy prices weakening the U.S. economy, his proposals run a high risk of throwing the economy into a deep recession. It was exactly such misguided tax hikes and protectionism, enacted when the U.S. economy was weak in the early 1930s, that greatly increased the severity of the Great Depression.

We are very concerned with Barack Obama's opposition to trade agreements such as the pending one with Colombia, the new one with Central America, or the established one with Canada and Mexico. Exports from the United States to other countries create jobs for Americans. Imports make goods available to Americans at lower prices and are a particular benefit to families and individuals with low incomes. International trade is also a powerful source of strength in a weak economy. In the second quarter of this year, for example, increased international trade did far more to stimulate the U.S. economy than the federal government's "stimulus" package.

Ironically, rather than supporting international trade, Barack Obama is now proposing yet another so-called stimulus package, which would do very little to grow the economy. And his proposal to finance the package with higher taxes on oil would raise oil prices directly and by reducing exploration and production.

We are equally concerned with his proposals to increase tax rates on labor income and investment. His dividend and capital gains tax increases would reduce investment and cut into the savings of millions of Americans. His proposals to increase income and payroll tax rates would discourage the formation and expansion of small businesses and reduce employment and take-home pay, as would his mandates on firms to provide expensive health insurance.

After hearing such economic criticism of his proposals, Barack Obama has apparently suggested to some people that he might postpone his tax increases, perhaps to 2010. But it is a mistake to think that postponing such tax increases would prevent their harmful effect on the economy today. The prospect of such tax rate increases in 2010 is already a drag on the economy. Businesses considering whether to hire workers today and expand their operations have time horizons longer than a year or two, so the prospect of higher taxes starting in 2009 or 2010 reduces hiring and investment in 2008.

In sum, Barack Obama's economic proposals are wrong for the American economy. They defy both economic reason and economic experience.

Are you wondering why the market is taking such a huge hit?Recently, I've seen some interviews with investors who are afraid that Obama might just win and start raping investors with his capital gains tax increase. Some, sensing the great rape, have gotten out of the market to take advantage of the current tax rates on capital gains, saving (in some cases) millions.It makes sense - what is the benefit of investing if Obama wins and takes away a larger chunk of your profits?

Yep, Obama is the cause of the worldwide financial collapse. Credit is frozen and foreign investors are worried about the US capital gains tax rate.

Only whiny liberals seek to place blame on one person for everything. Me personally? I can't wait until Bush is out of office so I can finally stop hearing effete liberals blame the worlds ills on him.

Obama is PART of the UNITED STATES market collapse. See, big time investors are smarter than you. They understand that if the capital gains tax goes up, it digs into their profit on investments. There are two ways to combat that problem:1) Work hard to get McCain electedor 2) get all of your money out of the stock market.

Obama isn't the ONLY person to blame for the worldwide financial crisis, but he is partially to blame.I guess while you and your soft socialists were meeting to figure out how to squash any and all negative information about the Great One King Obama, you chose to overlook it.Just like you chose to overlook the bill McCain helped sponsor to provide oversight to Fannie and Freddie was voted down by the democrats. It's all BUSH'S fault! It's not like Republicans tried to deal with this problem a few years back while Barney Frank and others said there was nothing to worry about. It's not like Chris Dodd and Obama were the recipients of the most money from Fannie and Freddie. It's not like Barney Frank was banging a Fannie exec. It was Bush, all Bush, and none other than Bush. Just like you ignore the fact that Obama voted to raise taxes 94 times. Just like you ignore the fact that Obama asked for close to $1 million a DAY since being in the Senate. Just like you ignore Wright, Ayers, ACORN, the CAC, and Pfleger. You keep on ignoring and pretend, like Michelle Obama commands you to, that 'the american people aren't asking these questions.'Bush evil. Obama saint.Saint Obama.Did they ever dig up his birth certificate? I'm just wondering, because that's sort of a requirement for the job he's been applying for.....

Like I said before, many investors are pulling OUT of the market (if they haven't already). One compelling motivating factor is that Obama will increase taxes on capital gains, making it disadvantageous to hold on to investments.

I disagree with McCain on some policy, but Obama has NO record, NO honesty, and NO experience. He's not a President for our times, that is unless you want our times to be more like the Great Depression (the last time gov. increased taxes in response to market issues).

Just because I know you aren't likely to read the actual letter, here it is:

i'd read it before you'd heard of it.

Then why try to make an argument against it by using an Economist Poll of what anonymous, unnamed economists think?Because you hadn't read it.

Regardless of the Economist poll, Obama's tax plan is wealth redistribution and a farce. It takes from those that create jobs to give to those who work jobs. Economists believe, overwhelmingly, that this will result in FEWER jobs and more of a welfare state than we currently have.

Great plan!

Maybe I should quit my job and find a minimum wage one so I can get me a big fat Obama government check!