Deleted sentence wrote:The Waze map must never show a Parking-Lot Area Place where a naïve driver could risk towing, ticketing, or violating community norms.

I was under the impression that significant changes to the wiki were to be discussed in the appropriate forum before being executed. I would like to understand what was offensive about the deleted material and whether it was intended that Parking-Lot Places be encouraged for broader application throughout the global Waze maps.

kentsmith9 wrote:Complete. I guess until we have more detailed notes on other places, we can just have Parking Lots be the only entry. Should we link the table on the Place page to the Parking Lot subpage?

Great job merging the changes back to the subpage!

The idea of links in the table that take you straight to the relevant subpage (if there is one) sounds good to me. Otherwise it would be a two-step process to get there from the table link.

kentsmith9 wrote:More than a couple of screens worth of information can be overwhelming to newer users. It is also harder to edit massive pages, like this one may get over time as we flush out other issues around places.

I can make these changes in the next day or so unless someone as adamantly opposed to it. I hope not because this is the direction we have already decided on JSG for example.

I'm in complete agreement with you. I somehow misunderstood that we wanted the text directly embedded in the Places wiki, and I though I didn't think that was as clean a solution as a link, I didn't want to make a pest of myself. Sorry for the confusion! I've sent you a PM with some details.

The [[Places]] page should have a section called something like [[Places#Special considerations]]. In that section we have a paragraph that explains Parking lots are a little unique in determining when to create them. It will then have a link to the subpage [[Places/Parking lot]]. If there is only one place that is questionable, then we just make it a section called "Parking lot considerations" as the only exception, but we still link to the subpage.

The reason for this is to prevent massive pages that are hard to sift through. More than a couple of screens worth of information can be overwhelming to newer users. It is also harder to edit massive pages, like this one may get over time as we flush out other issues around places.

I can make these changes in the next day or so unless someone as adamantly opposed to it. I hope not because this is the direction we have already decided on JSG for example.

If there are specific pages that we no longer want to support, we can change them to redirects to the new page. Remind me which page it is and I can work back to the sources to redirect to the new page.

FYI, with Alan's blessing the Parking-Lot wiki text has now replaced that in the primary Places wiki. The previous home(s) for the wiki text are no longer maintained and will go away eventually. I've replaced relevant links I quoted in this thread to point to the Places wiki.

I did modify the last paragraph just now explicitly to support conversion of existing but noncompliant named Parking-Lot Places to the Point Place type. If one day the guidance tightens up further they can be deleted, but I don't see why that would be necessary. In the meantime we keep the information on the map without the associated clutter.

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