http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Problematic Programs - Revision history2015-03-31T20:46:00ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.20.2http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=36600&oldid=prevPowerfox: Reverted edits by Eouseshinn9 (talk) to last revision by JacobAnawalt2013-06-29T12:01:13Z<p>Reverted edits by <a href="/Special:Contributions/Eouseshinn9" title="Special:Contributions/Eouseshinn9">Eouseshinn9</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:Eouseshinn9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Eouseshinn9 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) to last revision by <a href="/index.php?title=User:JacobAnawalt&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JacobAnawalt (page does not exist)">JacobAnawalt</a></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* With the 2.3.x vserver kernel patch forward and back mapping of 127 address was available. You can set this via the nflags LBACK_REMAP capability. It is probably enabled on by default on your system. This presents to each guest the 127.0.0.1 address without you adding an interface. It virtualizes the interface into 127.x.y.1 where x.y are derived from your security context so the 127.0.0.1 traffic your guest deals with is separate from another guest. If you ''wish'' to allow all hosts to share the 127 network to communicate, that is also an option in 2.3.x by removing the LBACK_REMAP flag and adding the LBACK_ALLOW flag. At that point you can start running into the 0.0.0.0:x issue and may want to configure your own 127.x.y.1 scheme.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>* With the 2.3.x vserver kernel patch forward and back mapping of 127 address was available. You can set this via the nflags LBACK_REMAP capability. It is probably enabled on by default on your system. This presents to each guest the 127.0.0.1 address without you adding an interface. It virtualizes the interface into 127.x.y.1 where x.y are derived from your security context so the 127.0.0.1 traffic your guest deals with is separate from another guest. If you ''wish'' to allow all hosts to share the 127 network to communicate, that is also an option in 2.3.x by removing the LBACK_REMAP flag and adding the LBACK_ALLOW flag. At that point you can start running into the 0.0.0.0:x issue and may want to configure your own 127.x.y.1 scheme.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For years, even before the 1951 Walt Disney animated classic Alice in Wonderland came out, the costumes of the characters of Alice in Wonderland were staples during Halloween and even for other special gatherings like birthdays, etc. Now, with the emergence of the new Alice in Wonderland in 3D, there were additional choices for Halloween costumes like the Alice in Wonderland Red Queen costumes, Mad Hatter costumes aside from Alice costumes or the March Hare costumes..&#160; The influence of the African slaves' cultures is felt heavily in the African derived dancing and music that is central to Trinidad's calypso and soca music. Musical competitions make up a large part of Carnival.&#160; The Halloween mask is considered to be truly amazing. There are ladies who can wear unusual costumes such as that of a nurse which can be tried out to attract attention of others in the party.&#160; After an extended trip to Europe and England, where she also worked as a nurse, she returned to the US and settled in Princeton. Here, she worked for a time in Princeton Hospital and then with the Princeton Medical Group.</del></div></td><td colspan="2">&#160;</td></tr>
</table>Powerfoxhttp://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=36597&oldid=prevEouseshinn9: /* wu ktv */ new section2013-06-29T11:16:51Z<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">wu ktv: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>Eouseshinn9http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=3413&oldid=prevJacobAnawalt at 02:22, 18 October 20082008-10-18T02:22:01Z<p></p>
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</table>JacobAnawalthttp://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=3412&oldid=prevJacobAnawalt: 127.0.0.1 issues2008-10-18T02:20:22Z<p>127.0.0.1 issues</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>--[[User:KornAndras|Guy-]] 22:13, 4 February 2007 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>--[[User:KornAndras|Guy-]] 22:13, 4 February 2007 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Some apps are hard-coded to use 127.0.0.1 instead of resolving localhost. These programs had problems under versions of vserver before 2.3 unless you exposed 127.0.0.1 to the guest. This action would have security implications and run time problems you may not have forseen, such as having two guests both try to bind their http server to 128.0.0.1:80 via their 0.0.0.0:80 binding.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* With the 2.3.x vserver kernel patch forward and back mapping of 127 address was available. You can set this via the nflags LBACK_REMAP capability. It is probably enabled on by default on your system. This presents to each guest the 127.0.0.1 address without you adding an interface. It virtualizes the interface into 127.x.y.1 where x.y are derived from your security context so the 127.0.0.1 traffic your guest deals with is separate from another guest. If you ''wish'' to allow all hosts to share the 127 network to communicate, that is also an option in 2.3.x by removing the LBACK_REMAP flag and adding the LBACK_ALLOW flag. At that point you can start running into the 0.0.0.0:x issue and may want to configure your own 127.x.y.1 scheme.</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>JacobAnawalthttp://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=2282&oldid=prevKornAndras at 21:13, 4 February 20072007-02-04T21:13:51Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>: The way that I see it, &quot;Problematic Programs&quot; means that the ''programs'' are problematic, not Linux-VServer itself ;). A new title would still be good, but &quot;Programs needing VServer-specific configuration&quot; is probably too long for a page title. &lt;br /&gt; -- [[User:Daniel15|&lt;span style=&quot;color: darkblue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid #6666FF; padding: 3px;&quot;&gt;Daniel15&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;big&gt;(&lt;/big&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Daniel15|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Daniel15|Contribs]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;)&lt;/big&gt; 09:30, 4 February 2007 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>: The way that I see it, &quot;Problematic Programs&quot; means that the ''programs'' are problematic, not Linux-VServer itself ;). A new title would still be good, but &quot;Programs needing VServer-specific configuration&quot; is probably too long for a page title. &lt;br /&gt; -- [[User:Daniel15|&lt;span style=&quot;color: darkblue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid #6666FF; padding: 3px;&quot;&gt;Daniel15&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;big&gt;(&lt;/big&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Daniel15|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Daniel15|Contribs]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;)&lt;/big&gt; 09:30, 4 February 2007 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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</table>KornAndrashttp://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=2280&oldid=prevDaniel15: Reply to comment2007-02-04T08:30:56Z<p>Reply to comment</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2">&#160;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: The way that I see it, &quot;Problematic Programs&quot; means that the ''programs'' are problematic, not Linux-VServer itself ;). A new title would still be good, but &quot;Programs needing VServer-specific configuration&quot; is probably too long for a page title. &lt;br /&gt; -- [[User:Daniel15|&lt;span style=&quot;color: darkblue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid #6666FF; padding: 3px;&quot;&gt;Daniel15&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;big&gt;(&lt;/big&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Daniel15|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Daniel15|Contribs]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;)&lt;/big&gt; 09:30, 4 February 2007 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Daniel15http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Talk:Problematic_Programs&diff=2277&oldid=prevMath: re page name too negative w.r.t vservers2007-02-03T17:22:01Z<p>re page name too negative w.r.t vservers</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>I stronly suggest we rename this page to something else. I have become embroiled in a discussion with a customer and their development team who do not fully understand the concept of vservers, and the management team is not strong enough to discern quality of all technical arguments. The developer is using the title of this particular page as an indication that there are &quot;problems with vservers and we shouldnt use them&quot;.<br />
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The first line of the page does outline how its most often not vserver's fault, but the name of the page seems to summarize a point of view about vservers thats detrimental.<br />
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Perhaps we should rename it to soemthing like &quot;programs needing vserver-specific configuration&quot; or the like. Hard to find a nice two word one like &quot;problematic programs&quot;, but the name suggests more negative aspects than it should.<br />
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-- [[User:Math|Math]]</div>Math