War Movies in general

Topic: War Movies in general

Okay so here it is.
Well on continuation of the other thread, I think war movies will get better because there hasn't been any dramatic improvements in special effects that would make audiences ignore poor plot, characters etc. as of late.
So there is some hope.
Speaking of which, there have been good war movies from the US as of late.

January 26th, 2005

Anya1982

Topic: hhhhmmmmmmmmmm

This is what I posted in other thread and here it is now:

Black Adder........what a corker of a TV show that was!!!!

Dad's Army was another.

No offense, but America with war films has lost its way with all this technology graphics etc. It looks like they focus more on the settings etc than the characters. I mean don't get me wrong got some corker films but lets face it we are losing to graphic enhancement

I still stand by that. I mean the heart of the film is war not computer graphics. Yeah ok Special effects are good but i think they look more real when low budgeted than top of the art flippy flappy

January 26th, 2005

A Can of Man

The heart and soul of a good movie, as in a good book, are the characters the plot and the interaction between the two.

I've actually made a movie with some of my mates from Bath and Banbury. Naturally it's about football ... and other things lol.

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January 26th, 2005

Anya1982

Topic: have to say

FOOTBALL FACTORY......................now thats an evil yet good film. Beware america the real meaning of football hooligans is in UK

January 26th, 2005

A Can of Man

I seen a bit of that.
Hooligans piss me off though. Ruins it for everyone who's going to the stadium for the right reasons. But yeah the movie got it right on something everyone knew for a long time. The trouble makers aren't there for the football. They're there for the trouble.

January 27th, 2005

Popeye

I agree... Band of Brothers (Mini-Series) is good because it combines both an in-depth look at the characters and amazing graphics, plots, etc. However if we are talking movies in general (I prefer WWII) then I definately agree...

... for example; I prefer the 1949 movie Battleground (101st Airborne in the Battle of the Bulge... great movie that actually has an actor that served in WWII in it and has been long since over-looked) over the 1998 release of Saving Private Ryan

Very well said 13th_redneck - couldn't agree with you more.

Another comparison you could look closely at is the Star Wars genre. The first 3... now formally known as episodes 4,5,6 went deep into the characters emotions and plot.

The new ones... title episodes 1 and 2 (3 soon to be released) has been scrutinized by many because it has taken itself away from the characters emotions and interactions and focused more on graphics and new technology... which in many opinions has made the new Star Wars outcomes terrible.

January 27th, 2005

A Can of Man

The IV V and VI Star Wars were fine, but the driving force of those movies were the special effects which were just a generation ahead of everyone else when they were first released. It wasn't bad in terms of character and plot though not the best of such things I think.
I and II... Jar Jar was a disaster. Anakin was a disaster (basically reminds you of the most annoying kids you've ever come across). The Princess blasting away at combat robots was a hard sell. She's either a princess or a commando. Let's not mix both. Like Iron Eagle did. Air Force pilots going out and doing PJ stuff.

Band of Brothers was great and I think one of the biggest reasons why it was, was not only was it a true story, but it had 10 hours to tell it. I think a lot of presentations, if released in this sort of way can be successful. The only issue is the big screen... as with the current system it's guaranteed to not do well there. It's the perfect compromise of a full series (which can drag on a bit too long) and a movie (which will compress incredibly complex things that happened over several years into 2 hours).

January 27th, 2005

Anya1982

Topic: have to say

war films etc are being lost in computer graphics same as us horror. Take "Dog Soldiers" for example, damn that film is jumpy and scary but yet still has a good humour side. I found this horror more scary than any american horro film in the last 6 yrs. Same with "28 Days Later"

These were done on a low budget scale and the effects were so much better and more creepy.

I think with american films they cater more for exspense than quality.

Saving private ryan was and still is a good film and the effects are still great as ever.

But are film Directors too caught up in the Fad of Computer Graphics these days?

January 27th, 2005

A Can of Man

I think we're going past the computer graphics craze.
It came about mostly with the Matrix. But War movies in general have grown up. I think things will be okay.
Plus there are some war movies coming out of Korea which are pretty good. The Korean film industry has improved like mad since the old times. The good ones no longer get caught up in corny romance themes, rather stick to what the movie's about.

Does anyone know any upcoming war movies?
I hear Rainbow Six is actually really in the proccess of being made.. .but probably won't see that thing come out for the next 5 years seeing how things are going.