In a series of a simple question-and-answer format, Penn and Guzman chatted about things like childhood, drugs, violence and terrorism.

When asked how he got into the drug business, Guzman said:

“Well from the age of 15 and on, where I’m from which is the municipality of Badiraguato, I was raised on a ranch called La Tuna. In that area, and up until today, there are no job opportunities.”

According to the article, Penn met Guzman in person back in October, and during the sit-down, the drug lord agreed to a later interview.

The meeting was reportedly brokered by Mexican actress Kate Del Castillo who is said to have been friends with Guzman for several years.

In his piece, Penn repeatedly pushed Guzman about his alleged drug trade, asking him if he considers himself responsible for the high level of drug addiction around the world.

“No, that’s false, because the day I don’t exist, it’s not going to decrease in any way at all. Drug trafficking? That’s false,” said Guzman.

Guzman was recaptured early Friday when Mexican forces raided a home in the coastal city of Los Mochis. Five of El Chapo’s people were killed in a shootout, six others were arrested.

El Chapo was captured later at a nearby motel.

Also in the article, Penn wrote that Guzman was interested in having a movie filmed about his life — an extravagant one he acquired as the head of the world’s biggest drug trafficking organization.

It was a lifestyle El Chapo was quick to rationalize.

“Well it’s a reality that drugs destroy. Unfortunately, as I said, where I grew up there was no other way and there still isn’t a way to survive, no other way in our economy to make a living,” said Guzman.