Fair enough. I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts, though, that if they sold or attempted to sell something the real White House, regardless of occupant, disapproved of it would quickly be discontinued.

"The media likes to say we have the most [coronavirus] cases, but we do, by far, the most testing. If we did very little testing, we wouldn't have the most cases. So, in a way, by doing all of this testing, we make ourselves look bad."

He quickly added that the United States has "done more testing than every other country combined" -- which is ridiculously untrue, but which has nevertheless become one of the president's favorite lies.

Regardless, Trump's unscripted comments offered a peek into an unhealthy perspective: he apparently has a problem with coronavirus testing, despite its critical significance, because the resulting data makes his administration "look bad."

"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b

I haven't followed the Flynn thing in enough depth to have an opinion on the latest kerfluffle, but I hope when the dust settles, Team Red maintains this level of interest and scrutiny in every criminal case when someone claims their guilty plea (or conviction after trial) was induced/caused by the government withholding exculpatory evidence.

I haven't followed the Flynn thing in enough depth to have an opinion on the latest kerfluffle, but I hope when the dust settles, Team Red maintains this level of interest and scrutiny in every criminal case when someone claims their guilty plea (or conviction after trial) was induced/caused by the government withholding exculpatory evidence.

I haven't followed the Flynn thing in enough depth to have an opinion on the latest kerfluffle, but I hope when the dust settles, Team Red maintains this level of interest and scrutiny in every criminal case when someone claims their guilty plea (or conviction after trial) was induced/caused by the government withholding exculpatory evidence.

You funny

I guffawed.

"The constitution is more of a BDSM agreement with a safe word." - Sandy

"Dude she's the Purdue Pharma of the black pill." - JasonL

"This thread is like a dog park where everyone lets their preconceptions and biases run around and sniff each others butts." - Hugh Akston

I haven't followed the Flynn thing in enough depth to have an opinion on the latest kerfluffle, but I hope when the dust settles, Team Red maintains this level of interest and scrutiny in every criminal case when someone claims their guilty plea (or conviction after trial) was induced/caused by the government withholding exculpatory evidence.

The thing is, to me, that Trump's handling of COVID-19 has been the sort of sufficiently advanced idiocy and sociopathic self-interest that really looks like deliberate malice. It's the single situation where he most looks like he's trying to outright sabotage the US, and the single strongest argument that he's the weapon of an enemy of the US...but I don't hear harping on that by the usual suspects. People go right to the political advantages Trump's little brain is trying to seek.

Despite his obvious blundering on the COVID-19, his approval ratings haven't moved in any significant way. I realize it's sportsbar, but does he literally have to shoot a child on 5th Avenue for the GOP to desert him?

If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

The thing is, to me, that Trump's handling of COVID-19 has been the sort of sufficiently advanced idiocy and sociopathic self-interest that really looks like deliberate malice. It's the single situation where he most looks like he's trying to outright sabotage the US, and the single strongest argument that he's the weapon of an enemy of the US...but I don't hear harping on that by the usual suspects. People go right to the political advantages Trump's little brain is trying to seek.

Despite his obvious blundering on the COVID-19, his approval ratings haven't moved in any significant way. I realize it's sportsbar, but does he literally have to shoot a child on 5th Avenue for the GOP to desert him?

The thing is, to me, that Trump's handling of COVID-19 has been the sort of sufficiently advanced idiocy and sociopathic self-interest that really looks like deliberate malice. It's the single situation where he most looks like he's trying to outright sabotage the US, and the single strongest argument that he's the weapon of an enemy of the US...but I don't hear harping on that by the usual suspects. People go right to the political advantages Trump's little brain is trying to seek.

Despite his obvious blundering on the COVID-19, his approval ratings haven't moved in any significant way. I realize it's sportsbar, but does he literally have to shoot a child on 5th Avenue for the GOP to desert him?

The thing is, to me, that Trump's handling of COVID-19 has been the sort of sufficiently advanced idiocy and sociopathic self-interest that really looks like deliberate malice. It's the single situation where he most looks like he's trying to outright sabotage the US, and the single strongest argument that he's the weapon of an enemy of the US...but I don't hear harping on that by the usual suspects. People go right to the political advantages Trump's little brain is trying to seek.

Despite his obvious blundering on the COVID-19, his approval ratings haven't moved in any significant way. I realize it's sportsbar, but does he literally have to shoot a child on 5th Avenue for the GOP to desert him?

People are saying, great people, everyone's saying that it was self-defense.

"There are so few people at the Federal Mall it's almost as empty as it was at Trump's inauguration."
--D.A. Ridgely

Even if covid truthers or their loved ones start dying in numbers too large for even them to ignore, I'm sure they'll find a way to blame it on the Democrats, Soros, Bill Gates and Chinese bioweapon labs.

"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b

Remember that most national leaders have had big jumps in their approval rating. Trump even had a small bump. So the fact that his current approval is "where it always was" is a pretty stark negative outcome.

People have made up their minds about Trump. If they already liked him they figure "he's been doing the best he or anyone else could do," and if they're out-and-out NeverTrumpers they figure "a good president would have handled matters much better."

I think those opinion polls, at least the generic approval/disapproval polls are cast in cement at this point.

Guys. I think I'm cured. I'm basically not reading any news and .... I feel great. It also has conferred some kind of immunity to me. I saw something just 10 minutes ago about Trump rage quitting a press conference and I felt no desire to see him run off stage like a child.

Guys. I think I'm cured. I'm basically not reading any news and .... I feel great. It also has conferred some kind of immunity to me. I saw something just 10 minutes ago about Trump rage quitting a press conference and I felt no desire to see him run off stage like a child.

People have made up their minds about Trump. If they already liked him they figure "he's been doing the best he or anyone else could do," and if they're out-and-out NeverTrumpers they figure "a good president would have handled matters much better."

I think those opinion polls, at least the generic approval/disapproval polls are cast in cement at this point.

That's largely but not entirely true. His approval rating does fluctuate. Just not a lot.

And he did have a small but substantial bounce back in like late March. It was just small and very temporary.