FlashHarry:the republicans kept the house purely thanks to gerrymandering. they actually got fewer votes than the dems. but they've mistaken this "victory" (and completely ignored their drubbing in the presidential and senatorial elections) as a mandate for more derpbaggery. they are sorely misinformed.

that bosnian sniper:I'm not debating this point, but can I get a (credible) citation for this? I've looked multiple times over and can't find one for the life of me, and it would be nice to back up my arguments in further discussions.

tallguywithglasseson:that bosnian sniper: I'm not debating this point, but can I get a (credible) citation for this? I've looked multiple times over and can't find one for the life of me, and it would be nice to back up my arguments in further discussions.

that bosnian sniper:FlashHarry: the republicans kept the house purely thanks to gerrymandering. they actually got fewer votes than the dems. but they've mistaken this "victory" (and completely ignored their drubbing in the presidential and senatorial elections) as a mandate for more derpbaggery. they are sorely misinformed.

I'm not debating this point, but can I get a (credible) citation for this? I've looked multiple times over and can't find one for the life of me, and it would be nice to back up my arguments in further discussions.

FlashHarry:the republicans kept the house purely thanks to gerrymandering. they actually got fewer votes than the dems. but they've mistaken this "victory" (and completely ignored their drubbing in the presidential and senatorial elections) as a mandate for more derpbaggery. they are sorely misinformed.

I'm okay with that. There's only so long those tricks can keep them relevant. If they hadn't kept the HoR they might actually be taking pause and addressing their issues. Keeping control of the HoR for the next couple elections might be what ultimately keeps them from addressing their core problems until it is too late.

Weaver95:do these guys understand that they LOST the election? and not by a tiny margin either - they got a major blow out on almost all fronts. people who lose that badly shouldn't be acting as if they're running the show.

Did the Democrats win back Congress? No, only eight seats. This is clearly a mandate for the people to support the Republicans and end once and for all the tyranny of Obama!

Or so the reasoning goes. Pretty twisted farked up reasoning, but reasoning nonetheless.

God Is My Co-Pirate:The thing is, healthcare is popular. Very popular. Once people get it, they won't ever give it up. Universal healthcare up here in Canada is politically untouchable for that reason.

The GOP is trying to kill the AMA before it's fully implemented, before people realize what they'd lose if it's repealed. They don't want Obama getting the credit for a policy which will be staying around for a long time.

I've said this before; but if the US eventually moves towards the Canadian model of delivering health care, and it's politically popular (*don't see why it wouldn't be), I would be shocked if the Republicans DON"T try to take credit for it...

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men:There are those who learn by deduction.There are those that learn from observation.There are those that have to piss on the electric fence for themselves.And then there is the house GOP.

david_gaithersburg:Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.

david_gaithersburg:Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.

Didn't the GOP gain seats?

See, this is why every single person on Fark has you farkied as an idiot.

Forbidden Doughnut:God Is My Co-Pirate: The thing is, healthcare is popular. Very popular. Once people get it, they won't ever give it up. Universal healthcare up here in Canada is politically untouchable for that reason.

The GOP is trying to kill the AMA before it's fully implemented, before people realize what they'd lose if it's repealed. They don't want Obama getting the credit for a policy which will be staying around for a long time.

I've said this before; but if the US eventually moves towards the Canadian model of delivering health care, and it's politically popular (*don't see why it wouldn't be), I would be shocked if the Republicans DON"T try to take credit for it...

The Republicans should take credit for it. It's their idea. The Heritage Foundation thought of it, Gingrich's Congress fought for it, and Romney was the first to implement it. The real insanity is them now fighting tooth and nail against the idea they wanted 5-10 years ago.

I suppose we're ignoring the fact that the deficit isn't a problem, especially under these conditions of such incredibly low capacity utilization of both Capital and Labor?

if that's the case, it's worth pointing out the Boehner might as well get as much as he can -especially since Obama's starting position is probably something the GOP could live with.

Ignoring how horribly inappropriate this policy is for the current context, it's worth pointing out that if it weren't for Obama's disgusting and reprehensible positions on the homosexual issue, he'd make a pretty good Republican President.

ghare:david_gaithersburg: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.

Didn't the GOP gain seats?

See, this is why every single person on Fark has you farkied as an idiot.

david_gaithersburg:Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.

doctor wu:What a disgusting excuse for a human being. The good thing is he will be hounded by his worthless legacy to his dying days.

In a sane world, this might be true. Instead, he will remain in office, albeit it not as Speaker, as long as he pleases. Then he will move over to K Street for a few years at the lobby trough, before retiring a very wealthy man.

Hunter_Worthington:Obama's disgusting and reprehensible positions on the homosexual issue, he'd make a pretty good Republican President.

His disgusting and reprehensible position that the government has no business telling adults who they can and cannot marry? I thought Republicans were all about smaller government getting out of peoples' lives and back to the very narrow boundaries set out in the Articles of Confederation Constitution. Explain why small Constitution-focused government still has the right to barge into my private decision-making?

On second thought, don't bother. Unless you're trolling (in which case, subtly done with the "conservaderp" + "Obama's an excellent Republican"), just sit there and be silly.

// and thanks for giving me an outlet to waste a few minutes before quittin' time

limeyfellow:Weaver95: do these guys understand that they LOST the election? and not by a tiny margin either - they got a major blow out on almost all fronts. people who lose that badly shouldn't be acting as if they're running the show.

Did the Democrats win back Congress? No, only eight seats. This is clearly a mandate for the people to support the Republicans and end once and for all the tyranny of Obama!

Or so the reasoning goes. Pretty twisted farked up reasoning, but reasoning nonetheless.

MBickert:I almost want the GOP to get their wish. Then when health insurance premiums don't drop (because all my republican friends firmly believe that is why premiums went up) hopefully they will see the error in their ways. Who am I kidding no they won't.

I dunno about you, but my premiums just went down for next year for slightly better coverage.

hubiestubert:Hey, if you know you're going down, at least you can go swinging...

In some cases, it really is smarter to just go down when you're in a fight you know you'll lose. If you keep swinging, he's only going to keep beating you. And that's what's going to happen unless Boehner wises up and stops trying to convince the rubes that he's ideologically pure.

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary:MBickert: I almost want the GOP to get their wish. Then when health insurance premiums don't drop (because all my republican friends firmly believe that is why premiums went up) hopefully they will see the error in their ways. Who am I kidding no they won't.

I dunno about you, but my premiums just went down for next year for slightly better coverage.

yes, I was pretty shocked by that.

I just re-enrolled in the same plan $0 copays for most things, $0 deductible, $27 and change for the month.

cameroncrazy1984:Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: MBickert: I almost want the GOP to get their wish. Then when health insurance premiums don't drop (because all my republican friends firmly believe that is why premiums went up) hopefully they will see the error in their ways. Who am I kidding no they won't.

I dunno about you, but my premiums just went down for next year for slightly better coverage.

yes, I was pretty shocked by that.

I just re-enrolled in the same plan $0 copays for most things, $0 deductible, $27 and change for the month.

Same price as I was paying last year.

I wish that was the scenario where I'm at people have are seeing back to back 10% per year rate increases

CPennypacker:ghare: david_gaithersburg: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.

Didn't the GOP gain seats?

See, this is why every single person on Fark has you farkied as an idiot.