Messages - Moringotto

For several reasons, chiefly my location and the idea of a live environment had no appeal, I have never attended a show. In the 90s there was a mentality that the opportunity to see favorite bands would always be there, should I change my mind.

The environment no longer daunts me (yeah, I was a wuss), and he number of quality bands will continue to decline. On top of this, a live experience is something I've come to imagine is necessary.

Most, if not all of you, have had these experiences. What suggestions would you give to someone who will be making a long dive and.possibly only doing this once. Which worthwhile bands are still out.there, touring the US?

Mortem have played in LA a couple times in recent years. I wonder how good they are live. All things to consider, there is a lot of Googling and review reading to do if this is to be undertaken.

The thing that always gets me is the entertainment-like quality of the obviousness of this decay. No one really likes the hell this world is becoming and yet we are the subconscious vessel of all that leads to it. On top of this there's some mock display of dissatisfaction, as though we are better than or removed from it when in fact we are the exact cause.

This is due in part to our refusal to see the following reality:

Quote from: death metal black metal

Organic human logic is always preferable to rules.

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Singly, they make perfect rational sense (P.R.S.) but together: insanity.

Like humans in a group.

To question the integrity of a democratic system is to say "I clearly don't know my ass from a hole in the ground, so think nothing of what I am about to explain."

People refuse to see that our entire system functions as a chaotic mess of random series of tactics and not that of a coherent strategy.

I use the analogy of building a bridge. Should an engineer design it, or should t be constructed according to popular vote each step along the way? Makes perfect sense, but it isn't what they want to believe about our precious democracy.

People see its going to hell, it how many are willing to see why? Even supposing they could be made to accept this, what could be done about it that is less grievous than the impending collapse walked obliviously into by the masses?

To my ears, even Morbid Angel and Possessed are closer to being "proto-underground" than, say, the first Incantation album. That is the start of death metal. Though there generally seems to be a lot less rigid classification of genres in the early days, which allowed for a wider array of influences. Not becoming too narrow-sighted (not necessarily a bad thing) or inversely adopting any and all influences just for the hell of it.

I can't disagree. Furthermore Seven Churches and Blessed are the Sick are in my top 10 metal albums of all time.

There is a thread here from 2012, where there is a list of top bands. It is gatagorized by genre, and someone argued the inclusion of Gorgoroth. I've searched unsuccessfully for this over the past week. Does anyone remember the thread title or care to post a link?

There is a real dilemma here. If metal continues to innovate, but without an overarching scenic structure, then it risks dissolution,. But if it focuses on protecting its boundaries and distinctiveness, then it risks artistic ossification.

As saddening as this may be to accept, it does appear inevitable. I do not envy those of you who are so well-listened over the last twenty or more years, as to be in the position of having no more precious jewels to be found among the old school rough.

According to a recent post, the bands Bathory, Celtic Frost, Sepultura and Sarcofago are considered proto-underground. This was defined by one poster as "more than speed metal but not quite death/black metal".

What are some worthwhile band or albums to check out for listeners whose favorite bands include all of the (in some cases only early work) aforementioned artists?

Problem is that people will buy into what is advertised,and cheap shit is more readily available where most of the masses shop.

On one hand, if fucktards prefer to buy twenty cheap brooms over their lifetime than buy a good broomstic that costs five times as much but lasts forever, that is their probelm. Other hand, consumption of cheap shit, while perhaps a staple of our modern economy, is harming the environment. Above all, this serves as a reminder of how mindless and apathetic we have become, at least in the US.