And yet for the last 50 years the little nation of Israel had taken on just about everything their neighbors tried to dish out... and the jews have handed them their collective muslim butts in return for their troubles.

Places where Jews have not been expelled...... Israel.Places where Jews won't be expelled..............Israel.

High Sierras wrote:And yet for the last 50 years the little nation of Israel had taken on just about everything their neighbors tried to dish out... and the jews have handed them their collective muslim butts in return for their troubles.

Places where Jews have not been expelled...... Israel.Places where Jews won't be expelled..............Israel.

Nuff said.

IsraHell was getting its ass kicked in 1973, in fear of total annihilation in the Yom Kippur war.Oil was $3 a barrel then.Nixon was begged to intercede and involve us in yet another one of Israels wars.Billions of arms were sent with advisors et al. Our reward? OPEC. Oil overnight went up 10 fold to $33.USA useds 20 million barrels per day = instant hyperinflation.Do the math. Trillions spent on the Marxist Hellhole state aka Israel in our 1 sides Monica Lewinsky type relationship with that abomination.

Our Founding Fathers were very clear..NO ENTANGLING ALLIANCES!!

Ooops, you must not have been listening too well in your 3rd grade history class. The Yom Kippur war was started by the Egyptians and Syrians, sucker punching Israel on Yom Kippur (after they were both humiliated in the 6 day war in '67). It took Israel (all by them selves) almost two weeks to pound the little jewhaters into the sand. It took Israel less than a week to kick the little jewhaters out of their country and then march deep into both Syria AND Egypt, prepared to take the turds out to the garbage can, when the UN asked them to please not make huge jewhater refugee camps out of both those nations.

And you're almost right, Nixon was begged... by the Egyptians, to get Israel to give the Sinai back to the Egyptians. Israel kicked the little jewhater dogs in the nuts, stopped kicking when they were less than 65 miles from Cairo, and walked back to their own yard. They were less than 30 miles from Damascus when they got bored mopping the sand with little jewhater Syrians.

Ultimately, what the Yom Kippur war did was put the smarter little jewhaters on notice to leave their neighbors alone.

Gunther wrote:IsraHell launched a preemptive strike on Egypt, you lying Bagel Bolshevik...then begged the US to get involved..

Nuclear Weapons and the US Air Lift. On the third day, during the night of October 8-9, Minister of Defence, Moshe Dayan told PM Gold Meir that "this is the end of the third temple." It may be that the ammunition and weapon stocks were extremely low. Israel may have considered a nuclear option. On October 9 U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told the Israelis, "The President [Nixon] has agreed - and let me repeat this formally - that all your aircraft and tank losses will be replaced." The airlift was successful thanks to the co-operation of Portugal.

MMMMM, bagels. with Philly cream cheese and lox...lots of lox.

Is there any chance I can get this as my tag line, mods???'The Bagel Bolshevik'

Gunther wrote:Throughout 1972 and for much of 1973, Sadat threatened war unless the United States forced Israel to accept his interpretation of UN Resolution 242 -- total Israeli withdrawal from territories taken in 1967. (Israel has defied 3xs more UN resolutions than Iraq)

So you're saying that Sadat whined to the US before the Yom Kippur war as well as after actually getting his arse handed to him . Sounds like a masculinity problem, huh? Too bad Sadat didn't have a little Jewish backbone in him, huh?

Gunther wrote:Despite the conventional wisdom that Israel was surprised by the attack that did eventually come, the truth is that the Israelis began to prepare for battle on October 5. But like U.S. intelligence officials, Israeli analysts were skeptical about the threat of war.

Yeah... most intelligent people would think that after the Egyptians got their teeth kicked in back in '67 that they couldn't possibly be that stupid to try it again, could they???

Gunther wrote:At 5:00 a.m., General David Elazar, the chief of staff, first recommended a full, immediate mobilization of forces and a preemptive air strike. He was overruled. A few hours later, a partial call-up of reserves was approved, but Prime Minister Golda Meir still refused to authorize Elazar to take military action. She advised the U.S. ambassador of the situation and asked him to pass on the message that the Arabs should be restrained.

Code word for Golda saying "Hey, America, you might want to warn the little jewhater dogs over there in Egypt to keep off our lawn, remind them what happened in '67."

Gunther wrote:Vinogradov dispels the idea of surprise: in his view, both the canal crossing by the Egyptians and the inroads by Sharon were planned and agreed upon in advance by Kissinger, Sadat and Meir. The plan included the destruction of the Syrian army as well.At first, he asks some questions: how the crossing could be a surprise if the Russians evacuated their families a few days before the war?

What, the Egyptians had Ruskie tanks and advisors? No wonder they lost. Bad equipment and bad tactics.

Gunther wrote:The concentration of the forces was observable and could not escape Israeli attention. Why did the Egyptian forces not proceed after the crossing but stood still? Why did they have no plans for advancing?

Umm, cause they were stupid? Felt they had to go wail a little and bring their little prayer blankets to the battle? Saw the Israelis eye to eye and lost their nerve?

Gunther wrote:Why there was a forty km-wide unguarded gap between the 2d and the 3d armies, the gap that invited Sharon’s raid? How could Israeli tanks sneak to the western bank of the Canal? Why did Sadat refuse to stop them? Why were there no reserve forces on the western bank of the Canal?

The Egyptians were still used to having their butts handed to them by the Jews along the Red Sea. Remember what happened to them when Pharoh's army tried to mess with the Jews in the Exodus? Bet the Egyptian army had life preservers on the whole time!