Most fans, most owners, and most players are getting put in to the middle of something they have no interest in being a part of. If you love football and stop watching because of the protests, you are allowing yourself to be victimized. You are letting them win. Ain't no one taking football away from me. I'll give you my remote when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

My opponent this week has Dalvin Cook, Leonard Fournette, and Cooper Kupp on his bench. He had to start Kapri Bibbs (who already has scored a touchdown). I heckled him all week. I started LeSean McCoy and Sony Michel. Well played, Karma, well played.

Wow, no wonder everyone hates you pats fans, logistically impossible for you to have a discussion without name calling and being aggressive and obviously taking a joke. Let me break it down for you a little bit so maybe you can chill a little champ. The reference to the refs was made because of a lot more than just the Titans game, it's been a running joke and theme in MULTIPLE media outlets ( surely not boston) and been a running joke around here for a while. Secondly, my statement about the NFL praying for the Pats is 100% based on Viewer interest for the game. Relax and stop being a 3rd grade baby with your name calling

I have never seen a President so hell bent on dividing people instead of leading them to value and respect one another's opinions. This 70 year old man child feasts on conflict which is exactly what this world needs less of. I sincerely hope people are paying attention and realize how one vote can put and entire country into purgatory.
Hell I just want to watch football. The SOB twitter troll who started this should be fired for incompetence,dereliction of duty, and dumbasserdry. He'll go down as the worst President in U.S. history. That is if we survive the coming wars he's about to start with his stupidity and ignorance. Amazing how one man has found a way to piss off every segment of America accept Hillbilly Alabama.
Honestly, it's like he looks for opportunities to piss people off. Truly amazing for the supposed leader of the free world.

Totally indefensible move - and I have zero love for Eli. I would fire McAdoo immediately.
Whatever problems they have, substituting Geno for Eli solves none of them.
This guy won you 2 super bowls. The amount of disrepect here is hard to understand.

You can't distinguish true addiction and lack of willpower because they are inclusive. For most addicts, it takes the loss/suspension of their job, troubles impacting their lives, loss of friends and family support and the loss of the ability to make rational decisions to even realize they are addicts. We are not talking about the social user here. When you keep doing things, knowing the consequences and disregarding those consequences, you have a problem. Having the willpower to say no to your addictive abuse is only a small percentage of the ingredients needed for a lifestyle change. Only when one succumbs to the fact they have no control over their addiction, will they have the strength to muster the willpower to end it. Other than that, it's pretty much all "smoke and mirrors" and manipulation to continue further with their destructive lifestyle.

Kaepernick (and others) was already kneeling before he was elected. Divide was already present, the pres and the media just have a knack for exacerbating it. Funny thing is both sides are currently valid. The players have the ability to this form of protest while working because their contract has no rules against it and fans have the right to withdraw their support and money. Yet here we are just continuing on about how this side or the other is wrong and throwing blame on one person or another for divisiveness. Very much seems like the pot and the kettle at this point. I'll get out of this threads way though...

This is the critical problem with politicians, of all persuasions - they try to inject themselves into every aspect of daily life and turn everything into a political decision, or a political commentary. How far are we going to take this us v them insanity?
Enough is enough aholes - we're all trying to be socially responsible and respectful but at the end of the day all we want to do is WATCH FOOTBALL.

Hyde was destined to have a good game.
“According to a couple of team sources, #Browns RB Carlos Hyde is expecting the birth of his child any minute now. He’s expected to come straight to the stadium from hospital in time to play. I’m told labor was induced last night, so a potentially long & joyful day for the Hydes.” - Omar Ruiz
And it’s his 28th Birthday

I think a change of scenery/cities will do wonders for his sobriety. Nothing against Cleveland but addicts more times than not need a change. Everything about the Browns and Cleveland are constant reminders to him of his struggles and addiction. I wish him the best in his continued recovery.

A lot of coaches have done this....it’s actually a respect thing. If they kick a field goal they are running up the score. So by going for it on 4th down, if you get it you run more time off the clock. If you don’t no harm no foul. I’m sure McVay is real concerned about your fantasy team 🙄 god forbid one of your players miss a projection
I also think you’re having a hard time understanding these forums. You said “what kind of moron goes for it on 4th down...” and someone informed you that Belicheck has. Invoice pretty sure he was just pointing out the fact that McVay wasn’t making a rookie mistake. I feel like a lot of your responses have this condicending tone and your trying to talk down to all of us like your better than everyone here.....so why post and when someone factualizes an oversight on your part you respond with essentially “man your stupid....I said this”

The uproar isn't about whether or not Eli should be benched. It's about how poorly it was executed, how poorly it was communicated, and at the end of the day, Eli's play has been the least of their problems. The whole thing is bizarre, and makes it clear that the Giants' front office doesn't really have a plan. Their drafts have been largely disastrous, and this debacle is just one more nail in the coffins of both the HC and GM.
It would be one thing if they benched Eli to see what they have in Webb. But, they (the NYG) admittedly haven't given Webb enough snaps in practice to play him at this point. Which, in and of itself, is pretty hard to understand. Your season has been a loss since basically September, you want to see what you have at the QB position (besides Eli), but it never crossed your mind to maybe give the rookie some playing time on the practice field!?! So, instead, they will trot out a known commodity (Geno), which really does nothing for the franchise (other than make them look like more of a laughingstock than they already were).
Add to all of that the fact that Eli wasn't notified by the owner or GM (he found out from the head coach, who is clearly a dead man walking, in way over his head, etc.), and I could see why Eli would be disappointed to say he least. He's the consummate team player/professional, and the inference that the team might be better of with Geno Smith (!?!) starting at QB is a slap in the face. And their "plan" was to let Eli play a half (to extend his streak), then bench him at halftime? WTF would be the benefit of that?

And that's that. I let everyone in the league ( besides those 2 guys) vote if the draft order should be re picked, and they voted no. Then I asked the late joining manager of the spot 5 team if he would still play if I gave him the number 1 spot and gave his other co manager the boot, and he said no. So, I gave them both the boot. I got told I was on some "bitch manure" and that was the end of it. It only took 2 hrs and we have 2 new members that agreed on flipping a coin for pick #1 and pick #5. Thanks for all the input guys, it's much appreciated and I can rest a little easier now!