Peter von Nostrand:WTF is wrong with the South. How do we keep electing these batshiat insane (insert just about any Southern Republican)?

/that's usable in just about all threads, actually

What do you expect from a region too stupid to wear shoes to war and so lazy that they used black people like farm equipment. The South has never been, and never will be, a fountainhead of knowledge or decency.

lennavan:BraveNewCheneyWorld: You have to love the "everybody has an opinion on climate change" statement. There are no opinions on the subject, there are those who are informed, and those who aren't.

And lets be honest, the vast majority of people are uninformed, including many on the side who agree with climate change.

Absolutely. But why is it people who'd never presume to say they know more about particle physics than particle physicists, more about molecular biology than molecular biologists, etc., all of a sudden know more about climate change than climatologists?

lennavan:BraveNewCheneyWorld: You have to love the "everybody has an opinion on climate change" statement. There are no opinions on the subject, there are those who are informed, and those who aren't.

And lets be honest, the vast majority of people are uninformed, including many on the side who agree with climate change.

I'll admit it, I don't know a lot about climatology. But the NOAA does, and I believe them when they say climate change is a problem. When the voice of the opposition believes a lot of other kooky bullsh*t, that alone lends credence to the idea that yeah, maybe we are mucking up the environment too much.

Speaker2Animals:lennavan: BraveNewCheneyWorld: You have to love the "everybody has an opinion on climate change" statement. There are no opinions on the subject, there are those who are informed, and those who aren't.

And lets be honest, the vast majority of people are uninformed, including many on the side who agree with climate change.

Absolutely. But why is it people who'd never presume to say they know more about particle physics than particle physicists, more about molecular biology than molecular biologists, etc., all of a sudden know more about climate change than climatologists?

I don't know that climatology is distinct in science, see for instance vaccines or evolution. But as a general rule, why do some people distrust science? Farked if I know but my best guess is believing in some of science is scary and comes with scary (yet wildly stupid and incorrect) outcomes. People believe the science that makes them feel better. If vaccines don't cause autism, then we don't know what causes autism and can't do anything to prevent it from getting our children (oh noes!). If we believe in evolution, then we're really just stupid hairless chimps and Jesus didn't exist (oh noes!). If we believe in global warming, we all have to walk to work, hug trees and shut off our air conditioners (oh noes!).

A few years ago, there was a headline about how Russel Pearce, aka SB 1070 racist asshole, pushed a reporter. I watched the video. I felt bad for him- coming out to go to lunch and being hemmed in on all sides by reporters. His 'push' was simply turning his shoulder slightly. The guy then said 'Why'd you push me, Senator? Why'd you push me?' It was dumb.

Same with this. Brewer is a dim bulb, and acts like a stereotypical blond. Her finger wag wasn't even anything- she was unaware that she was doing it. Her initial reaction to the SB 1070 ruling put a spotlight on this.

The real fear I have of her is her handlers. They tell her how to vote, govern, what to say- everything. And at least one of them has pushed for (and gotten) a lot of money for private prisons. He's a lobbyist for them.

divgradcurl:verbaltoxin: No, please, continue to elect morons like this, AZ. Have fun when you run out of potable well water.

aww hell no. CAP

/i wish she went back to 'missing' status

A fantastic article on the CAP a few weeks ago in the Arizona Republic. Our vein of blue gold is quite fragile.

lennavan:Speaker2Animals: lennavan: BraveNewCheneyWorld: You have to love the "everybody has an opinion on climate change" statement. There are no opinions on the subject, there are those who are informed, and those who aren't.

And lets be honest, the vast majority of people are uninformed, including many on the side who agree with climate change.

Absolutely. But why is it people who'd never presume to say they know more about particle physics than particle physicists, more about molecular biology than molecular biologists, etc., all of a sudden know more about climate change than climatologists?

I don't know that climatology is distinct in science, see for instance vaccines or evolution. But as a general rule, why do some people distrust science? Farked if I know but my best guess is believing in some of science is scary and comes with scary (yet wildly stupid and incorrect) outcomes. People believe the science that makes them feel better. If vaccines don't cause autism, then we don't know what causes autism and can't do anything to prevent it from getting our children (oh noes!). If we believe in evolution, then we're really just stupid hairless chimps and Jesus didn't exist (oh noes!). If we believe in global warming, we all have to walk to work, hug trees and shut off our air conditioners (oh noes!).