aadvark wrote:of course your points are legitimate, and i have never asked anyone to go to Nara cos he's so cheap etc. I do inform them of the disadvantages compared to some bigger clinics.

it's not so much your logic, but the way you have been putting things across. your last 2 posts sound perfectly rational and reasonable. but some of your previous ones dun. you have been targeted because you DO sit there and ridicule us (albeit indirectly)

it could be that you are a straightforward and direct person, and u r definitely entitled to your own opinions but it is a public forum after all, so i would appeal to you to mince your words, so that the rest of us dun feel like:

1. we are cheapskates hence we went to nara, not considering potential dangers

2. we are bandwagon people, that we went to nara just cos someone told us he's good

3. we are idiots for getting infection. i know some of the infection cases in here are due to some bad personal habits: drinking, smoking, etc. for me, i didn't gargle as often as i was advised to. sure, we may have been stupid, but we already know that, and dun need it said to our faces anymore.

as long as u stop making us feel bad, u can continue your scrutinization all you want with dr nara, and you'll hear no complaints from us.

as for your research on dr nara, maybe you'd like to allow people to form their own opinions from the info in the threads, everything you mentioned has already been repeated ad nauseum in the threads, so i'm sure they can form their own opinions. until you find some new startling info, maybe you can give us a rest

Its now clear from your post that maybe you and others have misunderstood me.

1. I never implied or meant that you guys went to NARA solely because he was cheap. If I wasnt curious or interested I have better things to do than come on a board and be belligerent lol Simply I wouldnt bother.

2. Didnt mean it in that way more like in this way "many people tend to be a little lazy and might jump on a band wagon especially when enticed without doing their own research and later regretting things" I am not implying you guys/gals do or did this its a very simple generic factual statement not targetted at anyone

3. I never implied you guys were idiots. I merely stated that yes there are some idiots and gave a factual case example. I did not imply that you guys were idiots because some of you im sure must have taken care etc yet still got infections and they sometimes do happen no matter what you do so it would be idiotic of me to call YOU guys idiots because i dont know the specific circumstances. But if that girl in the case for example talked or complained i would tell her she was an idiot and im sure youd all agree.

Yes I am a straightforward direct person and maybe by not being "diplomatic" my comments are being misconstrued ?

Hi simplegal, I think i know what u mean by ur stomach feeling bloated. I think its because of the antibiotics, I also was given the same type as you but the instructions that were given to me as to eat it before food. Are u also doing the same as me? Because i took it after food a few times, and yes, i had quite a bit of problems like bloated stomach and stomach pain. Hope this helps.

I understand how you feel, I had nightmares after viewing some pictures and videos on ps, especially the photo of someone who just had dbl eyelid surgery (day1)... but still!! must be strong and brave to make our dreams come true!!

after i ate the medicine, i feel stomach very bloated and feel like vomitting. abit too strong for me.

jus hope it subside soon...

my nose get oily very fast after the surgery and i findit diff to wash my face.. cant really clean properly.. stretch alittle bit of the skin will feel pain in the nose. cant apply makeup evenly..

Then youll be fine

Just up your vitamin C intake daily to 4Grams seperated into 4 doses and youll be fine in no time Bloating is a sideeffect of that and maybe you can try having just before food and have some probiotics after food.

after i ate the medicine, i feel stomach very bloated and feel like vomitting. abit too strong for me.

jus hope it subside soon...

my nose get oily very fast after the surgery and i findit diff to wash my face.. cant really clean properly.. stretch alittle bit of the skin will feel pain in the nose. cant apply makeup evenly..

Then youll be fine

Just up your vitamin C intake daily to 4Grams seperated into 4 doses and youll be fine in no time Bloating is a sideeffect of that and maybe you can try having just before food and have some probiotics after food.

having antibiotics AFTER food reduces the nausea. btw, clarithromycin is not a strong antibiotic but a rather weak-moderate broad-spectrum. I was given that for sore throat once. Probably your dose is higher.

but i didn't have an infection after my rhino at Nara though... though I had seafood tomyum soup straight after the op! hehe, this definitely isn't advisable. But, after that for like a few weeks, i had oranges daily, fruits, plenty of rest and water. applied the antibiotic cream until the stitches came off too. but that cream was prescribed by my GP yeah..