I think SP is fine at 79, I've seen some good efforts from long range like this one at 2:40:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9ifv9_X5sAgree with WFF 5 and he also needs a raise in his passing for his assists this season.

shooting stats should be updated he is more than decent finisher and very more aggressive than this ,also better DA for sure for sure ,he mainly uses his speed for dribbling but has good control and stylewhat i believe to be fair ATT 75>77DA 78>80SA 73>77place kicking 73-76Also an update to his passing and set piece stats,he has 9 assists this season ,some coming from the corners amd set pieces he takes most of the time.

It was said that his contract would be terminated because he had a torn ACL and wouldn't fit in the squad. Happened with Georgi Loria also, he was announced by the club but when Kapino was bought he was released. But now it seems the team's website lists him also. Will move him.

The fact that this beautiful goalscoring,assist giving,corner taking speedster is on loan to Panionios while Elyounoussi is a starter at Olympiakos is beyond ridiculous.I might be exaggerating slightly ...but you get the point.

Yeah, Djukic and a bit of luck were helpful for Ben. Of course, that doesn't make his goals be less important and less quality. I think that Olympiakos had a bit of luck. You could see what they want and they've made an excellent result in the end, just what they've planned, but who knows what would've happened if they've conceeded a goal after Partizan's two top opportunities.

Seems that Ben is a great player for the counter attacks and situations in which he's got a lot of free space... But, I actually don't think that he is such a complete player who could regularly play in the formation with one CF. It might be fine if Olympiakos reform their game(against Partizan they were unorganized and if we are talking about game organization, post player would have been much more useful for the tactical stuff). He isn't such a dominant in the physical aspect of game and his decisions making isn't a perfectly proper for that formation. For example, I think that Richmond Boakye is a much more better at the both aspects but neither him isn't a perfect striker for a Target man role.

woa guys, i think you might be drawing one too many conclusions for one game , more than we've had probably , since for 4/6 players above the midfield (including the central mid duo) that was the first official game with the team. Also, Fortounis who's the closest thing to a focal point in creation and holds a different degree of influence in the center than Marin was out with a problem minutes before the game apparently, so instructions were probably readjusted at the last second. Anyway, i think this can be an interesting and a little more poignant discussion after the second game's been played as well

I feel Ben never got the chance to prove anything at Olympiacos. Injuries played their part as well, ACL injury during 15/16 left him out for the rest of the season, then the club loaned him to Panionios of Ansarifard and Masoud where he had a full season with 9 goals and 6 assists in 28 apps. In 16/17 he returned to Olympiacos. Besnik Hasi used him on the CL qualifiers where he scored twice vs Partizan but after that he had another njuiry and was sidelined. I feel he has quality in general and he's a capable goalscorer, but he needs a regular spot in the team in order to perform.

bitz wrote:I feel Ben never got the chance to prove anything at Olympiacos. Injuries played their part as well, ACL injury during 15/16 left him out for the rest of the season, then the club loaned him to Panionios of Ansarifard and Masoud where he had a full season with 9 goals and 6 assists in 28 apps. In 16/17 he returned to Olympiacos. Besnik Hasi used him on the CL qualifiers where he scored twice vs Partizan but after that he had another njuiry and was sidelined. I feel he has quality in general and he's a capable goalscorer, but he needs a regular spot in the team in order to perform.

I agree

About the set, there are a couple of things i wanted to look into from my impressions of him from Panionios but we never really got to see him.

I could see his DA and Agi a tad lower, i know his DA was recently increased and i don't necessarily disagree with it but i remember i didn't see his close control quite at yellows. This is probably just be a cosmetic thing, i have him at DA 79, Agi 85 in my game for example. Just something i wanted to check out.

The other thing is his SA/ST. I see him more balanced there . His placement is pretty good ,not exceptional, maybe 76-77. His ST isn't so close to 80s from what i've seen and he has some trouble with 1-touch shots. He's decent at shooting from angles but again i'd rate him at very low greens. His shooting is more about placement in general from what i remember, SP might be worth a look also....eeh just try to check out his shooting