Should I quit WoW?

Post by wowplayer124

Ok, I am addicted to wow, no joke. Like people get pissed that im at the computer all day. Its because its the one thing in my life i can go on with doing without getting sick of it or tired of it or even mad at it. But today, I finally snapped. I was on the ptr trying out a new raid when they told me to scram so their guildie could heal. I suck at every class, spec and role everything I have tried and I cant pvp without being at near the bottom of the boards, on pve i cant get through one dungeon or raid without being told to scram and then being kicked. So I might just stop playing if i suck that much. I listen to guides and #$%^ exactly but i suck even more. So tell me, should I quit wow?

Post by ElhonnaDS

If you feel that you have an addiction, and it's interfering with your real life relationships and responsibilities, then yes you should quit. Skill has no bearing on that.

Post by Adamsm

If you think you should quit, it's time to throw in the towel.

Post by PhantomScourge

Wait.... is the problem that you spend too much time playing, or is the problem that you suck? Also, why are you on the PTR?

Post by Krowi

Hey

Why would you think that you suck? Not everyone is good at everything. I find answering such a question a little hard to respond to by just one post like this one.

If you want, you can always contact me in game if you want to have a talk about this. I think it's better to talk in private with someone rather than on a public forum like this where there will be people who make you feel even worse than you might do now.

Since I'm away this weekend I won't give my Real-ID just yet. I'll be back on Monday and I'll read up on this.

Feel free to contact me at kfredje@gmail.com for now. I'll get to you as soon as possible (being Sunday evening or Monday)

Keep it up :)

Post by jcf190

There's professional counseling available. Ask your parents or loved ones for help if you aren't capable yourself. Group therapy is usually the best fit. It will do you a world of good to get away from the computer for awhile.

Post by nocepek

My advice on this (for what it is worth): Don't abandon something you really enjoy just because someone says you should from the lacking of inadequate skills. The development of skills or finesse at insert tactic, technique, profession, etc. here takes time -- some need more time than others, some need less time than others. Just shrug off all of the haters, learn at your own, comfortable pace, and have fun! World of Warcraft is a game, after all. (We've all got to start somewhere! :3)

Also, on a more deeper level, I want you, wowplayer124, and everyone reading this to understand that removing an addiction is never the answer. Not just as a society, but for the sake of human advancement, we all must understand that, yes, addictions are sources of issue, but are never the root of the problem. This applies to not just games, but drinking, drug usage, gambling, etc as well. If we want an addiction to go away, then we must not jab at the surface, but look beyond it (not just with your eyes).

I remember reading about an unhappy wife once where her marriage with her husband was practically a dream come true (just to scratch the surface, she would wake up to a fresh rose at her side table every morning, she and her husband would go out to dinner and then a movie at least every other weekend, and money was not an issue.), until her husband's portrayals of affection started becoming inconsistent and then eventually ceased. This was when her husband grew an addiction to drinking and gambling.

Why did he grow such an addiction? Because (sub-consciously) he wanted to fill the void or, solve the root of his problem. Why was he trying to fill the void with alcohol and dice-rolling (which is NEVER the answer)?Well, notice how the unhappy wife did nothing to portray her affection to him?

Her lack of portrayal of affection is what drove him to the drinking and gambling. Her lack of portrayal of affection is what gave him the sub-conscious motive to fill the void or, solve the root of his problem by hooking onto the aforementioned.

Now, what does this little tangent story have to do with you, wowplayer124?

If world of warcraft is something you honestly, genuinely enjoy, and could stop playing it whenever you would like, then don't let it get in the way of your life outside of the game, remember that it will be there when you get back (and forget my little lecture xD)... But if you find yourself wanting to stop, and reluctant to hop off that computer, as if trying to use it as a supplement or substitute for something outside of the typical confines of a game, then I encourage you to look past your addiction and find the root of your problem to solve it.

Post by Izikiel

WoW is too great of a time sink.

That is your problem, you have too much you feel you need to do in such a short period of time, therefor you spend all your time on WoW.

It's a common problem, there are many people in my guild over the age of 20 that don't work or study - they just play WoW.

Post by Krowi

nocepek gave you the best answer you can get. I wanted to talk to you about it but he managed to put it in here :)

I have to admit I'm addicted to WoW in my free time but I'm able to stop whenever I need to. Yes, I'm 21 and I spend a lot of time on WoW but this is what I enjoy to do. I do have hat a lot of haters flaming at me cause I screwed up something and did feel the same like you.

You should try to speak with some people in or outside the game that you trust and which genuinely like you for the person you are.

As some people stated before, it's a game. If you don't like it, quit and find something else fun to do like cycling, having a drink with friends or other stuff but don't let a game be ruined by some people (mostly children) who don't get they can hurt people with just words.

As for me, I looked for a guild with mature people. Those are a little more understanding and will certainly help you out when you got to get to know something.

Post by Jkpman

Ok, I am addicted to wow, no joke. Like people get pissed that im at the computer all day. Its because its the one thing in my life i can go on with doing without getting sick of it or tired of it or even mad at it. But today, I finally snapped. I was on the ptr trying out a new raid when they told me to scram so their guildie could heal. I suck at every class, spec and role everything I have tried and I cant pvp without being at near the bottom of the boards, on pve i cant get through one dungeon or raid without being told to scram and then being kicked. So I might just stop playing if i suck that much. I listen to guides and #$%^ exactly but i suck even more. So tell me, should I quit wow?

I don't get the problem, how can you be worse if you read the guides?

Are you trying to do too much? If you are struggling then really you should not be healing, try a less conspicuous role until you become proficient.I'd suggest ranged DPS, for a couple of reasons:-

DPS don't really get noticed as much, unless they are total idiots and pull mobs they shouldn't or constantly die due to not knowing how to control aggro.

Ranged are usually away from the boss or mobs, so you can easily assess a situation, whereas a melee should be staring at the bosses ass which isnt always the best place to be to know whats going on all the time.

Ignore the jerks, there are just too many in the game, and even the best players need to start somewhere.

Post by dumac

It is real easy to get addicted to wow, I was also an addict for several years then I was raiding. Would be constant online every day and school did suffer some. Most people do not realise that gambling who is a form of playing can cause level of cocaine addiction in your brain.

If you feel addicted i recommend you just stop playing the game at all, try it at least for a few weeks and compare on how you feel now and then. Spend time with friends and family and try to be outdoor and do whatever you want. Find something else to help you take yer mind off it.

If you after all decide to return you need to set up firm rules on how you play and how long each week.

You can get all help in the world to break an addiction, but without the will to make it so, it is all bandaid.

Post by Riversnowpaw

I'm addicted to WoWBut it sounds as if that isn't your real issue.You are saying you feel as if you have to exceed other people to be wanted in WoW.What you need is a good guild.People are willing to help you out and play with you.Some areas of WoW are harder for some people then othersFor instance I suck as a rogue.(seriously my worst skill)But I can kick butt on the other classes.Ignore the people who make you feel like you aren't good enough.Find some in game friends.Make the time in WoW less about trying to prove something to jerks and more about enjoying playing with other WoW fans who are going to be fair to you.

If its a serious addiction (as a teenager I had a video game addiction so bad I was passing out and not sleeping or eating) often its your way of trying to make you feel better about the other areas of your life you feel you lack in or people make you feel lacking in.

So, get a therapist or seek out soemthing like emotions anon (group therapy done like AA but for people with emotional issues, its a 12 step, often people in AA or NA also go to EA) or contact a help group like NAMI (NAMI is a advocacy group for people with emotional issues or mental issues they are very good and help link you up with specialists that can help you see what is at the root of your addiction to a game)

Excuse the formal talk but when I go in therapist mode I switch to professional terms and things.

Anyhow either way if YOU feel its effecting your ability to function or a risk to your health you could be using the gaming as a means to hide from a serious emotion condition and with any illness if you ignore it and hide it, then it won't heal or be treatable.

Other people tell me I need to get more of a life away from WoW yet I am very shy fangirl Whovian with a lot of physical health issues, my life is limited. In game I can do the kinds of things I can only wish I could do. But I do balance WoW with working on blogs (mostly fangirl or game based but still) reading, spending time looking after my pets, actually getting some sleep (used to go a week no sleep, which is extremely dangerous to a person's health) going to college, watching tv, chatting with friends online. Living a bit more. Hope that is a help to you

Good luck

Arwen/RiverSnowpaw

Post by PhantomScourge

Also, on a more deeper level, I want you, wowplayer124, and everyone reading this to understand that removing an addiction is never the answer. Not just as a society, but for the sake of human advancement, we all must understand that, yes, addictions are sources of issue, but are never the root of the problem. This applies to not just games, but drinking, drug usage, gambling, etc as well. If we want an addiction to go away, then we must not jab at the surface, but look beyond it (not just with your eyes).

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Now, what does this little tangent story have to do with you, wowplayer124?

If world of warcraft is something you honestly, genuinely enjoy, and could stop playing it whenever you would like, then don't let it get in the way of your life outside of the game, remember that it will be there when you get back (and forget my little lecture xD)... But if you find yourself wanting to stop, and reluctant to hop off that computer, as if trying to use it as a supplement or substitute for something outside of the typical confines of a game, then I encourage you to look past your addiction and find the root of your problem to solve it.

Well, there's always that Sigmund Freud wannabe explanation. And for some people, it's probably true. But from a biological and specifically neurological perspective, that's not what's really going on. All psychological addictions, whether to WoW, drugs, gambling, religion, or arguing with strangers on the Internet, have one thing in common: a rush of dopamine to the nucleus accumbens in the brain. Your brain reacts to dopamine the same way regardless of whether or not your daddy ever loved you. This is why you can sometimes find posts on the Blizzard forums saying things like "WoW helped me kick heroin", and why getting drunk will reduce your desire to play WoW.

But again, I must ask: is the problem your addiction, or is the problem your lack of skill? They have two very different solutions.

Post by Jkpman

But again, I must ask: is the problem your addiction, or is the problem your lack of skill? They have two very different solutions.

Yeah that's the thing I wondered.Everyone seems to want to tackle the addiction issue, nobody except myself has addressed the issue of the OP having problems in the game.

The OP is questioning whether he should play or not due to the flak he receives in the game, if you combine that with the hassle you get outside of the game it makes you wonder whether to bother.

I am sure if one or the other went away this thread would not exist, but the two combined are making the OP question what he/she is doing.

Post by PhantomScourge

BTW, my level 90 tank got halfway through Throne of Thunder before I suddenly had to learn what "set focus", "stacks", and "taunting" meant. I even tanked dungeons as a Prot Paladin without knowing what Righteous Fury did. This game doesn't force players to learn how to play their class anymore. I'm not surprised if the OP is getting kicked from dungeons/raids.

Post by Jkpman

BTW, my level 90 tank got halfway through Throne of Thunder before I suddenly had to learn what "set focus", "stacks", and "taunting" meant. I even tanked dungeons as a Prot Paladin without knowing what Righteous Fury did. This game doesn't force players to learn how to play their class anymore. I'm not surprised if the OP is getting kicked from dungeons/raids.

Very true.This is precisely the issue I have with LFG, and LFR.If they taught players to play then fine, but for the most part you just get carried.

If I tank dungeons whilst leveling now I'm more or less just another DPS, DPS pull before I can, Healers never really struggle, and nobody is punished for bad play.

Phantom, did it ever occur to you to look up what to do? I've been playing a long time now, so reading up on my class/role is second nature.I get that it's not something you think of if nobody points it out, but didn't you at some point think "there has to be more to tanking than this?"

Post by PhantomScourge

If I tank dungeons whilst leveling now I'm more or less just another DPS, DPS pull before I can

So true. What's even more annoying is when I want to skin the mobs that get killed, but I can't because the other people in the group didn't bother to loot them. I ask politely "hey can you guys loot these corpses so I can skin them?" and they kick me for not keeping up. They all just want to go through and kill the boss and get their Satchel of Useless Blues and move on to the next dungeon as soon as possible.

Things get better in heroics and raids, where tanks are in shorter supply so they're willing to wait on you.

Phantom, did it ever occur to you to look up what to do? I've been playing a long time now, so reading up on my class/role is second nature.I get that it's not something you think of if nobody points it out, but didn't you at some point think "there has to be more to tanking than this?"

Yeah, like a year ago.

Post by ElhonnaDS

Wow doesn't take skill, it takes knowledge of knowing which abilities to use and when.Stick with one character.

My advice on this (for what it is worth): Don't abandon something you really enjoy just because someone says you should from the lacking of inadequate skills. The development of skills or finesse at insert tactic, technique, profession, etc. here takes time -- some need more time than others, some need less time than others. Just shrug off all of the haters, learn at your own, comfortable pace, and have fun! World of Warcraft is a game, after all. (We've all got to start somewhere! :3)

Also, on a more deeper level, I want you, wowplayer124, and everyone reading this to understand that removing an addiction is never the answer. Not just as a society, but for the sake of human advancement, we all must understand that, yes, addictions are sources of issue, but are never the root of the problem. This applies to not just games, but drinking, drug usage, gambling, etc as well. If we want an addiction to go away, then we must not jab at the surface, but look beyond it (not just with your eyes).

I remember reading about an unhappy wife once where her marriage with her husband was practically a dream come true (just to scratch the surface, she would wake up to a fresh rose at her side table every morning, she and her husband would go out to dinner and then a movie at least every other weekend, and money was not an issue.), until her husband's portrayals of affection started becoming inconsistent and then eventually ceased. This was when her husband grew an addiction to drinking and gambling.

Why did he grow such an addiction? Because (sub-consciously) he wanted to fill the void or, solve the root of his problem. Why was he trying to fill the void with alcohol and dice-rolling (which is NEVER the answer)?Well, notice how the unhappy wife did nothing to portray her affection to him?

Her lack of portrayal of affection is what drove him to the drinking and gambling. Her lack of portrayal of affection is what gave him the sub-conscious motive to fill the void or, solve the root of his problem by hooking onto the aforementioned.

Now, what does this little tangent story have to do with you, wowplayer124?

If world of warcraft is something you honestly, genuinely enjoy, and could stop playing it whenever you would like, then don't let it get in the way of your life outside of the game, remember that it will be there when you get back (and forget my little lecture xD)... But if you find yourself wanting to stop, and reluctant to hop off that computer, as if trying to use it as a supplement or substitute for something outside of the typical confines of a game, then I encourage you to look past your addiction and find the root of your problem to solve it.

LOL Just be happy your not as addicted as this guy.

Post by Nulgar

Wow doesn't take skill, it takes knowledge of knowing which abilities to use and when.

Knowledge is an integral part of "skill" - you aren't born a great raider/PvPer, you learn it.

Post by PhantomScourge

it takes knowledge of knowing

wat

Wow doesn't take skill, it takes knowledge of knowing which abilities to use and when.

Knowledge is an integral part of "skill" - you aren't born a great raider/PvPer, you learn it.

Indeed, that is the difference between a skill and a talent.

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