To call your ass red would be an insult to Hog Farmer's neck. My God, you epitomize why everyone here hates you and your team. Whiny, bitchy, entitled, could-have been conspiracy theorists who don't have a CLUE about anything.

Watching you meltdown is almost as much fun as watching the Chiefs actually win games. Thanks for the free entertainment, moran.

I wasn't happy with the call, but it's not why they lost the game... the failed onside kick absolutely crushed the team's will to live... giving that team half the field and then they score a TD, that was the dumbest call I have seen in a long time.

The play that hurt you guys the most, IMO was the first fumble on the first drive.

Nope, to me it was the failed onside kick... if I recall correctly, Denver just made it 13-3 and the defense had been playing ok. Denver's offense hadn't been horrible, they had moved down the field... but the turnovers sucked. Giving them the short field at that point in time was insanity to me... they do what everyone feared and scored a TD, making it 20-3... that is just exponentially worse than 13-3 in the 3rd quarter.

Nope, to me it was the failed onside kick... if I recall correctly, Denver just made it 13-3 and the defense had been playing ok. Denver's offense hadn't been horrible, they had moved down the field... but the turnovers sucked. Giving them the short field at that point in time was insanity to me... they do what everyone feared and scored a TD, making it 20-3... that is just exponentially worse than 13-3 in the 3rd quarter.

If you guys were up 7-0 on us like it looked like would happen, we wouldn't have tried to establish any kind of run game at all. Not that we can't win when we are 1 dimensional in just passing the ball, but you would have had a much better shot.

To call your ass red would be an insult to Hog Farmer's neck. My God, you epitomize why everyone here hates you and your team. Whiny, bitchy, entitled, could-have been conspiracy theorists who don't have a CLUE about anything.

Watching you meltdown is almost as much fun as watching the Chiefs actually win games. Thanks for the free entertainment, moran.

Nope, to me it was the failed onside kick... if I recall correctly, Denver just made it 13-3 and the defense had been playing ok. Denver's offense hadn't been horrible, they had moved down the field... but the turnovers sucked. Giving them the short field at that point in time was insanity to me... they do what everyone feared and scored a TD, making it 20-3... that is just exponentially worse than 13-3 in the 3rd quarter.

If you guys were up 7-0 on us like it looked like would happen, we wouldn't have tried to establish any kind of run game at all. Not that we can't win when we are 1 dimensional in just passing the ball, but you would have had a much better shot.

Well, sure... but even down 13-3 after getting the early 2nd half score, momentum was slowly moving to Denver. Overall, Denver's defense was doing a nice job keeping SD out of the endzone... Rivers wasn't lighting them up and a good portion of the 200+ rushing yards were after the TD that put SD up by 17.

So, even with the turnovers and sitting at 13-3... it was still a ball game that could have been won, Denver had overcome several second half deficits early in the year... but, to fall down by 17 after that horrible decision... that took the wind out.

Most Denver fans I encounter are Arrogant, entitled cockbags who blame all losses on officials. Oh, and NEWSFLASH! Your last SB win was last decade, not year. Stop pretending every year you're going back to the SB.

Most Denver fans I encounter are Arrogant, entitled cockbags who blame all losses on officials. Oh, and NEWSFLASH! Your last SB win was last decade, not year. Stop pretending every year you're going back to the SB.

No shit. The carriage-pulling team of Mr. Ed and Seabiscuit have long since left for the glue factory.

The Broncos are in a four-game losing streak, there is another tough opponent in the New York Giants coming up on Thanksgiving, and fans across the country watching on TV saw star receiver Brandon Marshall animatedly lecturing, then taking a shove from, Knowshon Moreno in the embarrassing loss Sunday to San Diego.

And so Brian Dawkins, an NFL safety in his 14th season, called for a players-only meeting Tuesday. No staff. No personnel. No coaches, although Josh McDaniels was aware.

Just players.

"We talked," Dawkins said, refusing to elaborate on the meeting's topic, although he said it wasn't about any division that people outside the Denver locker room may have perceived after the Marshall-Moreno encounter late in the first half Sunday following the rookie's fumble at the goal line.

"What we do as a team, we keep that stuff to ourselves," Dawkins said. "But if we're winning and we have that same argument on the sidelines, does anybody report that? If they do, they say it's our passion. But because we lost that game, and guys were a little emotional, then it's a bad thing.

"I don't buy into that. That's not who we are, who we've been throughout this year. I don't worry about that. Those are things that happen on the sideline. That is passion."

McDaniels also saw the good in Marshall going after Moreno, being upset at what happened, and the rookie giving a little back. As they say, how can people make up if they never argue?

"This job is not always simple, not always easy, but it can be fun if you have guys like (Marshall) and Knowshon," McDaniels said. "They got into a thing, but those are two guys I enjoy the most because that's how they play. They carry that onto the field too. I think that's OK. It's not like we had guys that didn't care. It would bother me more if we had guys that don't care about winning."

Besides motivational tactics, the Broncos also could use improved health of their top two leaders — Dawkins on defense and quarterback Kyle Orton on offense.

A bum left ankle forced Orton to miss the second half of the Broncos' loss to the Redskins and most of the first half against the Chargers. He returned with 4:19 left in the half and finished the game. Orton will start Thursday night against the Giants.

"Feeling good, feeling better and should be ready to roll and hopefully not limited in anything we have to do," Orton said.

The Broncos also have hope that offensive tackle Ryan Harris will return after missing the past three games with a dislocated big toe.

Dawkins suffered a neck injury in the first half against the Chargers. Will he play against the Giants?