<quoted text>you just watch,they're stealing,dealing days are coming to an end.this"hittler youth" mentality is passe,it just does not'add up' to the younger voters.

Hope so.

But as long as they can use silly fake issues like gay marriage, gun regulations, and fake terrorism to keep older white males terrified,that Bob will marry Ted, everyone's firearms will be confiscated next Tuesday, and a terrorist is hiding in everyone's crawl space,they might keep distracting those folks from the real threats to ordinary Americans.

As Karl Rove said: Americans can only pay attention to one thing at a time, and a good PR plan requires you tell them what that thing is.

No wonder our govt is a wreck. This conversation is beyond ridiculous. Bottom line no matter your party affliation, our national debt is shameful. If you have children or grandchildren you should support debt reduction. You may disagree between democrat and republican ideals but our future hangs on fiscal responsibility.

<quoted text>Nobody is moving on up as long as Republicans, thanks to Gerrrymanding, cannot possibly lose re-election.Spencer Black: How Republicans stole control of the HouseJANUARY 09, 2013 4:15 AM • SPENCER BLACK | LOCAL COLUMNISTStrange but true: A recent national poll found that 49 percent of GOP voters believe that President Obama stole his re-election and that ACORN, an anti-poverty group that registered low-income voters, was responsible.The problem with that view (in addition to the fact that Romney only received 47 percent of the vote) is that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore, having been dissolved in 2010.The election was stolen if a stolen election means that the party receiving the most votes didn’t win. Only it wasn’t the presidential election that was stolen — it was the election for control of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Wisconsin Legislature.At the national level, the final election tally shows that Democrats received 1,362,000 more votes than Republicans in races for the U.S. House, yet John Boehner is the speaker, not the Democrats’ Nancy Pelosi. In Wisconsin, Democrats received 192,000 more votes for the Assembly than did Republicans, yet Republicans control more than 60 percent of that chamber.How did this electoral larceny happen? States controlled by Republicans, including North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia and Wisconsin, engaged in such extreme partisan gerrymandering that the will of the people in the recent elections was subverted.Here are some examples: In Ohio, President Obama received 51 percent of the vote but only 25 percent of the congressional seats went to Democrats. Tallies in other states: Michigan, Obama 54 percent, Democrats 36 percent; Virginia, Obama 51 percent, Democrats 27 percent; Pennsylvania, Obama 52 percent, Democrats 27 percent.In states where Republicans controlled redistricting, GOP gerrymandering allowed them to gain 39 more House seats than they would have based on the presidential vote. Since a change in only 18 seats would make the difference between Democratic and Republican control of the House, the GOP and Boehner owe their power not to the votes of the electorate, but to an election stolen by partisan maneuvering.Likewise, in Wisconsin, Republicans used gerrymandering to seize control of the Legislature. According to Craig Gilbert of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Republican gerrymandering means that 60 of the 99 Assembly districts are more Republican than the state as a whole, based on the presidential vote. Guess what: The Republicans have 59 Assmbly seats (one seat is vacant, but a Republican is expected to win it), despite getting fewer votes statewide for their Assembly candidates.Where Democrats controlled redistricting, they restrained themselves from the extreme gerrymandering of the Republicans. For example, in Illinois, Obama won 58 percent of the vote and Democrats won 66 percent of the House seats. Interestingly, in Iowa, which has nonpartisan redistricting, the presidential vote and the congressional vote were almost the same: Obama 52 percent and congressional seats 50 percent Democratic.

lol Instead of cutting and pasting, why don't you just post the link? I'm SURE your source is the utmost of respectability. I LOVE how you libs critize the conservatives sources and then you cut and paste instead of posting links. Wonder why????? You simply MUST get over your double standard. It's the funniest thing EVER.

<quoted text>Nobody is moving on up as long as Republicans, thanks to Gerrrymanding, cannot possibly lose re-election.Spencer Black: How Republicans stole control of the HouseJANUARY 09, 2013 4:15 AM • SPENCER BLACK | LOCAL COLUMNISTStrange but true: A recent national poll found that 49 percent of GOP voters believe that President Obama stole his re-election and that ACORN, an anti-poverty group that registered low-income voters, was responsible.The problem with that view (in addition to the fact that Romney only received 47 percent of the vote) is that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore, having been dissolved in 2010.The election was stolen if a stolen election means that the party receiving the most votes didn’t win. Only it wasn’t the presidential election that was stolen — it was the election for control of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Wisconsin Legislature.At the national level, the final election tally shows that Democrats received 1,362,000 more votes than Republicans in races for the U.S. House, yet John Boehner is the speaker, not the Democrats’ Nancy Pelosi. In Wisconsin, Democrats received 192,000 more votes for the Assembly than did Republicans, yet Republicans control more than 60 percent of that chamber.How did this electoral larceny happen? States controlled by Republicans, including North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia and Wisconsin, engaged in such extreme partisan gerrymandering that the will of the people in the recent elections was subverted.Here are some examples: In Ohio, President Obama received 51 percent of the vote but only 25 percent of the congressional seats went to Democrats. Tallies in other states: Michigan, Obama 54 percent, Democrats 36 percent; Virginia, Obama 51 percent, Democrats 27 percent; Pennsylvania, Obama 52 percent, Democrats 27 percent.In states where Republicans controlled redistricting, GOP gerrymandering allowed them to gain 39 more House seats than they would have based on the presidential vote. Since a change in only 18 seats would make the difference between Democratic and Republican control of the House, the GOP and Boehner owe their power not to the votes of the electorate, but to an election stolen by partisan maneuvering.Likewise, in Wisconsin, Republicans used gerrymandering to seize control of the Legislature. According to Craig Gilbert of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Republican gerrymandering means that 60 of the 99 Assembly districts are more Republican than the state as a whole, based on the presidential vote. Guess what: The Republicans have 59 Assmbly seats (one seat is vacant, but a Republican is expected to win it), despite getting fewer votes statewide for their Assembly candidates.Where Democrats controlled redistricting, they restrained themselves from the extreme gerrymandering of the Republicans. For example, in Illinois, Obama won 58 percent of the vote and Democrats won 66 percent of the House seats. Interestingly, in Iowa, which has nonpartisan redistricting, the presidential vote and the congressional vote were almost the same: Obama 52 percent and congressional seats 50 percent Democratic.

Why are you even bothering to post such trash? YOUR guy won. If he's such a hero, he can do whatever he wants with executive order. He certainly hasn't been bashful about doing that before. Wonder why he won't do that now?

<quoted text>You and the rest of the conserative arm of the repug party are totaly out of touch with reality. Young folks are sick of consertives pushing for budget cuts that primiraly affect the young. They are sick of hearing how you want them to continue to pay your social security while theirs is cut to the bone. They are sick of programs to protect the baby boomer generation at the expense of thier generation. Can't blame them, this whole economic mess is the result of baby boomers overspending, overbarowing and over expecting. When reality struck in the form of g.b. and the house of cards fell they only looked to the young to sacrifice. Younger voters are much smarter than you think.

No wonder our govt is a wreck. This conversation is beyond ridiculous. Bottom line no matter your party affliation, our national debt is shameful. If you have children or grandchildren you should support debt reduction. You may disagree between democrat and republican ideals but our future hangs on fiscal responsibility.

Good point. Debt ceiling debate is coming up soon. We'll see how concerned everyone is about future generations. We have a SPENDING problem.

<quoted text>well,bring me up to speed, what is 'funny' now?other than you.

Well, anyone who voted for a failure AGAIN is pretty funny. Um...let's see....anyone complaining about the debt NOW and then voted for Obama AGAIN. Oh! Here's one......anyone who thinks our country can spend itself OUT of debt. Yeah, that's a good one. Ohhhhhh, those who still blame Bush. That's the BEST one. He certainly shares a portion of the blame, but not what the libs have been drinking from Obama's bottle. More?All of this has been discussed ad nauseam. You just asked what is funny, so I told you. I'm not going to ask you what's funny because you have already tried to amuse me and it was an epic fail.:)

<quoted text>Well, anyone who voted for a failure AGAIN is pretty funny. Um...let's see....anyone complaining about the debt NOW and then voted for Obama AGAIN. Oh! Here's one......anyone who thinks our country can spend itself OUT of debt. Yeah, that's a good one. Ohhhhhh, those who still blame Bush. That's the BEST one. He certainly shares a portion of the blame, but not what the libs have been drinking from Obama's bottle. More?All of this has been discussed ad nauseam. You just asked what is funny, so I told you. I'm not going to ask you what's funny because you have already tried to amuse me and it was an epic fail.:)

Surely you've been reading what W&M is reporting out for FY 2013-14 ABs! Assuming it gets through the Senate and compromise, which is likely, would you recommend the President sign it?

<quoted text>Well, anyone who voted for a failure AGAIN is pretty funny. Um...let's see....anyone complaining about the debt NOW and then voted for Obama AGAIN. Oh! Here's one......anyone who thinks our country can spend itself OUT of debt. Yeah, that's a good one. Ohhhhhh, those who still blame Bush. That's the BEST one. He certainly shares a portion of the blame, but not what the libs have been drinking from Obama's bottle. More?All of this has been discussed ad nauseam. You just asked what is funny, so I told you. I'm not going to ask you what's funny because you have already tried to amuse me and it was an epic fail.:)

your sense of humor is...well just a little more than odd.53% of americans are 'funny',but you and your ever-shrinking minority are the only sensible ones.Bush deserves a 'portion' of the blame?kinda like saying the nazi's were a little agressive in ww11-a real rib-breaker!me,trying to amuse you?please don't flatter yourself.sorry to leave so soon,but i have a few appointments on planet earth.

<quoted text>You are the probem, we the people ARE the goverment. We elect them and ALLOW them to do what they do. Hell repugs are in favor of their party doing nothing, thats what they have done for years so the mess just gets worse. This country was built by very different people from very different countries who compromised for the COMMON GOOD. When that attitude returns we will be just fine. And it will just as soon as all the white baby boomers that beleive they are so smart and entitled to so much die off and reason instead of greed returns. I am 64 so I will be dead, but my children will prosper when it happens.

<quoted text>Well, anyone who voted for a failure AGAIN is pretty funny. Um...let's see....anyone complaining about the debt NOW and then voted for Obama AGAIN. Oh! Here's one......anyone who thinks our country can spend itself OUT of debt. Yeah, that's a good one. Ohhhhhh, those who still blame Bush. That's the BEST one. He certainly shares a portion of the blame, but not what the libs have been drinking from Obama's bottle. More?All of this has been discussed ad nauseam. You just asked what is funny, so I told you. I'm not going to ask you what's funny because you have already tried to amuse me and it was an epic fail.:)

Since you're so knowledgeable and objective (yeah, like hell) then give us your brilliant insight as to the outcome of the meeting the Republicans are currently having at a horse ranch in Virginia - will the leadership "win" and raise the national debt limit (as they want to) or will the "lessers" prevail and if they aren't given the pork they want, let the country default and/or the sequestered cuts go into effect?

Got another question for you - how are you able to blame the spending spree on Bush (partly) and Obama and not Congress? Has someone rewritten the Constitution and not told us?

<quoted text>Why are you even bothering to post such trash? YOUR guy won. If he's such a hero, he can do whatever he wants with executive order. He certainly hasn't been bashful about doing that before. Wonder why he won't do that now?

The corporate powers gave us a choice between Tweedle Dee, "Obama", who would appoint Wall Street investment bankers to rule the world, or Mitt Romney, who would appoint Wall Street investment bankers to rule the world.

The only difference was Obama is at least smart enough not to destroy the middle class completely. He knows there has to be a reason for the serfs to serve; andRomney, who like President Cheney, believes that you can totally crush the middle class serfs, because they are so stupid they will continue to worship the Lords and Gods of the 1%, even as the 1% destroys them. After all, the 99% aren't people, they are "FTEs" and "PTEs".

Thanks for the choice between a corporate shill and a corporate monster.

<quoted text>"My guy" didn't win. "My guy" would have been Robert Kennedy Jr., Russ Feingold, or Elizabeth Warren.The corporate powers gave us a choice between Tweedle Dee, "Obama", who would appoint Wall Street investment bankers to rule the world, or Mitt Romney, who would appoint Wall Street investment bankers to rule the world.The only difference was Obama is at least smart enough not to destroy the middle class completely. He knows there has to be a reason for the serfs to serve; andRomney, who like President Cheney, believes that you can totally crush the middle class serfs, because they are so stupid they will continue to worship the Lords and Gods of the 1%, even as the 1% destroys them. After all, the 99% aren't people, they are "FTEs" and "PTEs".Thanks for the choice between a corporate shill and a corporate monster.

<quoted text>your sense of humor is...well just a little more than odd.53% of americans are 'funny',but you and your ever-shrinking minority are the only sensible ones.Bush deserves a 'portion' of the blame?kinda like saying the nazi's were a little agressive in ww11-a real rib-breaker!me,trying to amuse you?please don't flatter yourself.sorry to leave so soon,but i have a few appointments on planet earth.

I'm not an Obama worshipper, so you are pouting. Don't be sad. You are exactly Obama's kind of guy. Just turn that 'ole frown upside down and smile at the wonderment of the annointed one.

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