In between the preceeding days i've been taking Letrozole (From Liquid Research) EOD @ 1/2 ml (estimated dosage of 1.25mg)

Well... Here's the problem... I haven't gained any strength nor size worth mentioning. (I must admit though, that my pumps during work-outs are phenominal!!) I have been consuming plenty of calories and my supplements are put together pretty good. Any suggestions?

I already know that I should increase my Primo dosage, but beside that are there any changes that should be made to my cycle? Thanks for the advice in advance bros!

I would drop the letro and only use it as needed or later into the cycle. Alot of the early strength gains from a cycle come from water retention. Some water retention and estrogen is a good thing. Too much is the problem, so you have to walk a fine line. Gains are not immediate. WIth test it is a building process that takes time. However, by now you should be starting to see some gains.

You need to be taking the winstrol everyday.

If you could break it down week by week ratehrs than days it would be easier to look at. For example:
Weeks 1: Xmg test, Xmg primo etc.

I agree with your recommendation of breaking the dosages down week by week and that is my intention...
Since the cycle has begun I've been improvising... but things will start to become more consistent.

The letro should be stopped until later, huh?? Thats a good idea, I'll consider it. I want this cycle to be more of a lean mass gainer, I'm not sure if bloating is something I want.

but that would explain the lack of strength and weight gains... Thanks Bro!

I ONLY do lean mass cycles. I do not think you will bloat too much honestly, but if you do you can always just start the letro once you feel uncomfortabel.

Understood... I'll deffintely give it a try.

About the winny... It should be used every day to keep steady levels right... The problem is that I'm working on a limited supply... therefore I'm trying to make it stretch..
I know it's a bad practise but it seems to be my best option.

I would cut the workout down some maybe to like 4 days per week. It seems with that schedule some bodyparts are getting hit three times a week, even on juice that is too much. Also, try to be more consistent with your workouts. I would say go three days a week with a split that doesnt overlap any bodyparts.

Originally posted by ironviking I would cut the workout down some maybe to like 4 days per week. It seems with that schedule some bodyparts are getting hit three times a week, even on juice that is too much. Also, try to be more consistent with your workouts. I would say go three days a week with a split that doesnt overlap any bodyparts.

Good Luck Bro

Excellent suggestion. I would say no more than 5 days of lifting and at least 2 days of rest a week.

I refuse to lift more than 5 days out of the week, my CNS can't recover properly otherwise.

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I'm confused about how you came to this conclusion...
Are you counting compound exercises, for example rows, as back and biceps instead of only back?

If so I think I understand and the only way to solve that problem would be for me to cut out my Biceps and Triceps routine.

Yes, I am counting the compound exercises. Just add the bis to your back day and the tris to your chest day, there is no reason to break those up. You might have to cut down on the exercises that you do but in this scenario cutting down is not a bad thing.

It just seems to me that being on that much gear and no gains yet either your diet or your routine is causing you to overtrain. You said youre getting in plenty of calories so I think the routine is a bit much.

Some of the best gains that I've seen people make is on a simple 3 day split
WKT 1:Back and Bis
WKT 2:Chest Shoulder Tris
WKT 3:Legs

I'd give it some more time anyway. You sure have a lot of goods in your system. Personally I would have saved the Winny till the end to lean out and harden up a bit but to each his own. Are you SURE you're getting enough food? Eating should be a full time job at this point make sure you're getting quality calories and YES count them.....and your Macros too it's worth the effort! Best of luck with this cycle and getting to 250 bro! Keep me posted I'm curious about when your strength and size explode on this!

Damn it!
I'm still stuck at 220... Still no freakin gains! (Strength neither)
But Whoa... I am looking rather Swole thest days
At least that's what everyone's telling me..

I figured that the only possible area that I may be lacking in is calorie intake.. So I just ordered 3 100ml bottles of Vitamin B12 (Vet Grade).
Hopefully this will help me to start kickin some ass in the Kitchen..

And you better have god's own PCT at your disposal when you come off....

ManBeast

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Size: I just feel that having been shutdown for so long, it might take a bit extra oomph to get things going in a timely manner.

ManBeast

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Quick Question....
I'm considering staying on cycle until I'm outta my supply...
This may end up being about 20 weeks.

SO I guess this means that everything is now working well?
This is just my own opinion I would not stay on a first cycle that long. But that's just my opinion.....I'd do (2) ten week cycles if I were you.
Grow ,recover,Grow,recover.

Originally posted by wikked1
SO I guess this means that everything is now working well?
This is just my own opinion I would not stay on a first cycle that long. But that's just my opinion.....I'd do (2) ten week cycles if I were you.
Grow ,recover,Grow,recover.

Actually, quite to the contrary. I haven't noticed any strength or mass gains yet.. just more muscularity.

I was considering staying on cycle because I wasn't noticing any testicular atrophy and that was my major reasoning for cycleing on and off.