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"poorer inhabitants of the rural districts...men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks"

He is full of freckles.. I'd imagine he could potentially get a pretty red neck.. that aside 'redneck' may perhaps be a little derogatory, not intended that way by me He enjoys my full respect.

_________________I never took drugs to improve my performance at any time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. If you buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later. --Graeme Obree

_________________I never took drugs to improve my performance at any time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. If you buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later. --Graeme Obree

I like Chris Horner... as both a racer and a person. I don't know him well, but I've had the chance to spend some time with him socially and he impresses me as a really great guy who loves riding his bike.

I can't think of too many successful pros from the last 20 years whose names have not come up in the rumor mill of doping. But, to my knowledge, Horner has never been accused or implicated in any doping scandal. He seems to be the only of the PostalChannelStanaShack guys who wasn't busted (or admitted to) doping.

That said, I understand people being skeptical. But as a 42 year old guy, I am in far better shape than I was half my lifetime ago. I am wiser. I train more intelligently. I eat better. I understand recovery. And I know my body. I get the impression Horner is much the same. He knows what works for him and is in a unique position to follow his own plan.

I'm sure it helps that the dopers of his generation are pretty much gone from the peloton, along with the dopers of the generation that came after. I think his success is more of an indication that the field is riding cleaner than any suggestion that he is riding dirty.

Seriously, I will happily challenge any of you young doubters to a mano-a-mano torture test in the high mountains when I return to the real world. I may not win, but I'm pretty sure I can hold my own against all but the Cat 1s and pros among this audience. Some things get better with age. Horner is a great example. He's nearing the end of his career, with nothing to lose, and doing so with the exuberance of a kid. We should all be applauding him. I am!

As an aside, I am 5'10" or 178cm. Chris is a bit taller, though I was not standing straight in this photo.

For some reason I had assumed Horner was included in the "clean slate for LA investigation information and 6 month off-season ban " saga but it seems there is nothing to suggest Horner has a dodgy past (or present) besides the info in KW's and other's posts. If suspicions are correct then a cynical mind might say he didn't want the off-season ban and negative association with doping like Levi et al as he still wanted to race this season more than some of the other guys...

I don't think it is hard to find Chris Horner during training. Here in San Diego, if you re doing rides in east counties mountains such as Kitchen Creek, Palomar, Honey Springs, you will have high probability to see a guy riding considerably much faster than anybody else, wearing only cycling hats and no helmet with full rst kit.

XNAVALAV8R- I accept your challenge when you return to the Mid-Atlanic and look forward to handing you a big serving of droppage

I like that Horner is now ahead because no one can use the "I'm old" excuse anymore.

What I have heard about Horner are just rumors that seemed convoluted, but they did come from a number of former domestic pros, many of whom raced with/against Horner in the 90's and early 2000's. I don't care though and find those kind of uncorroborated stories as dodgy as doping. I would imagine if he had done some shit it would've come out in the reasoned decision somehow somewhere, especially since he rode with Levi for a while.

I think people forget how hard Horner crushed US domestic racing for a decade. He basically won every type of race and was always much better than everyone else. He tried to enter the Pro Tour when it was doped out of its mind and didn't do too well, but seeing how much riders such as Contador or Basso have slowed down in recent years I wonder what it would've been like if they were clean(er) then.

Horner's power on the SRM page is not that nutty. I've seen 10 minute numbers from many riders, including myself, that are just as high of a percentage of their threshold as that.

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