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DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:34:20 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by stephieboyhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487796
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:34:20 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487796All that Netanyahu’s speech indicates that the US is not beholden to him nor is it a lackey of Israel as many those who are hostile to i Israel would like us beleive .

Nor does AIPAC run US foreign policy .

Shawn Herles even though am pro Israel the Palestinians are a reality that the US and Israel will need always consider .

Ugly Truth, Israel no lawful claim ? Then what is the Palestinians .? Was there a recognisable Palestinian national movement under the Ottoman Empire ?

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by Fentexhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487795
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:34:15 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487795Netanyahu is a lying thug who’s interest is not Israel’s protection but his own legacy (maybe, really it’s not obvious why’s he such a war monger).

He misrepresents Israeli intelligence and informed opinion and when resisted by such as Meir Dagan (now former head of Mossad) purges them.

This speech in the U.S House of Representatives was quite an insult to the U.S Presidency and threat to Israel’s alliance with the U.S (the Presidency controls the U.S veto at the U.N, it may now be at risk of not supporting Israel when next required).

He, and the Republicans who arranged the speech, have caused considerable disruption and adverse reaction to Israel’s lobby in the U.S. The sum of the blatant inference in internal U.S politics seems more likely to be a lessening of support for Israel in total and from the executive in particular – which seems like a very counter-productive effort.

I wonder if his ambition is to increase conflict and thus strengthen alliance in arms (with inevitable reduction in rational, empathic thinking) because he is worried world wide sympathy for Israel is faltering.

“Project Director Mick O’Dywer said work stopped immediately to allow archaeologists and local iwi, Ngati Toa, to inspect the area. A 20-metre exclusion zone was created around the midden to preserve the site.”
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Looks like it will be a long road ahead.

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by 2boyzhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487793
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:32:00 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487793I don’t doubt for a second if Netanyahu is re-elected his first order of business will be the authorisation on air strikes on Iranian nuclear and military installations (wouldn’t want them fighting back).

Is this scenario good in the long run, probably not.

The Middle East is f**ked up and all leaders in this area have played a part in it (unwittingly it’s something they all seem to agree on).

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyeshttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487792
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:30:50 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487792IGM (908 comments) says:
March 4th, 2015 at 11:21 am
Public Dog: You have just shown this post what a pathetic and treasonous old crow you are. Go grab your mat and get to a mosque . . . that appears your forte’

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The irony of Penny converting woudl that she would need to pay her rates – it is prohibited in the Quran to let the sun set on a debt – but I guess she would argue that ACC is not islamic so therefore she doenst have to pay. Maybe ACC could become an Islamic organisation…imagine that, Grand Mufti Lenis Brown…..

]]>Comment on Mein Kampf by David Garretthttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/mein_kampf.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487791
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:29:30 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92375#comment-1487791Akaroa: I quite agree…a very turgid read…anyone who finds inspiration from it is themselves a few sandwiches short…but the reality is many still do…to my great puzzlement – he is a bright boy – my nephew is one of them…
]]>Comment on Mein Kampf by Keeping Stockhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/mein_kampf.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487790
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:29:11 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92375#comment-1487790I’m willing to bet that the Parliamentary Library’s copy isn’t signed, like Herr Dotcom’s. Maybe he could donate his book to Simpson Grierson as a part-payment of his legal bills.
]]>Comment on General Debate 4 March 2015 by Inandouthttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/general_debate_4_march_2015.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487789
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:27:26 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92505#comment-1487789kowtow: We joke about hillbillies marrying cousins, but with these in-bred Pakistanis they are tied to a religion that is already insane, so these off spring become doubly dangerous.
]]>Comment on General Debate 4 March 2015 by Griffhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/general_debate_4_march_2015.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487788
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:25:20 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92505#comment-1487788Grave dodger
come to Auckland we get some pretty strange behavior

Random stopping on busy roads.
Indicators are unknown on cars in Auckland.
Orange light means speed up,
The correct position for your car is the right hand lane as close to the center line as possible at all times.
Reverse back up motorway on ramps if you have taken the wrong turn.
I have even lost a mirror to a car traveling the wrong way on a motorway.
Remember we have comparatively heavy traffic all the time even at midnight on a Sunday compared to the south islands empty roads.

The license knowledge test should be resat every decade. such testing could also be used to target problems like failure to keep left, correct merging behavior and obstructive driving.

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by Fletchhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487787
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:24:04 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487787I watched it. It was a good speech. You can watch it below (video is teed up from 1:08 onward when speech begins)

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by IGMhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487786
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:21:27 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487786Public Dog: You have just shown this post what a pathetic and treasonous old crow you are. Go grab your mat and get to a mosque . . . that appears your forte’.
]]>Comment on General Debate 4 March 2015 by twofishhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/general_debate_4_march_2015.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487785
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:15:43 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92505#comment-1487785Penny – supporting the least corrupt politician in Parliament
]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by Manolohttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487784
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:14:40 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487784Not bad for a Cherokee!
]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by UglyTruthhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487783
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:12:18 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487783

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

The nationhood of Israel was connected to right of the descendants of Jacob to posses the lank of their inheritance. The descendants of Ishmael also inherited land between the Nile and the Euphrates.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

The “Palestinian People” have an historic connection to the land.
This is very interesting since there is no such thing as a “Palestinian People”. When the Romans changed the name of Israel to Palestine, the people living there at the time were Jews, not Arabs. If there had been a “Palestinian People”, which there never was, they would have been Jews.

The Palestinian People have been in the land from time immemorial.
For centuries pre-Israel Palestine was a forgotten, desolate wasteland inhabited by a remnant of Jews, along with some Christians and wandering Bedouins who certainly had no thought of a national identity of any kind.

There were no Jews in Palestine until Israel became a state in 1948.
The Romans officially banished the Jews from Israel (Palestine) in 135 CE. However, historical records show there was always a Jewish presence in the land. While many were scattered, other Jews simply moved out of harm’s way until a less hostile power ruled the land. Jews were returning to what is now Israel well before 1948. Many left Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.

Arabs and Jews lived in harmony before Israel became a state.
Throughout the centuries, Jews as well as Christians, living under Islamic rule suffered persecution and humiliation, the intensity of which was determined by the character of a particular Moslem ruler. As second-class citizens, there was never a “good time” for non-Muslims living under Islamic rule. Because of the way that most Islamic countries look down on non-Muslims, they are always considered second-class citizens and less than equal. Arabs have rarely lived in harmony with anyone if they were the majority.

The returning Jews displaced the Palestinian Arabs
The ancestors of most of the present-day Arab population migrated to the land after Jewish pioneers began to reclaim the land. They came from many different countries and were not original inhabitants of the land.

The Jews stole Arab land
Jews returning to the land settled on unclaimed, unoccupied land or bought land from absentee Arab landowners at outrageously high prices. This is a matter of record.

The Jews forced Arabs to flee Palestine
When Israel was declared a state in 1948, leaders from the surrounding Arab countries declared war on Israel and instructed the Arab civilians living in the land to flee until the Jews were annihilated. Israeli leaders, to no avail, urged the Arabs to stay. Property that they owned was abandoned.

The Jews caused the Arab refugee problem
If Arab countries would assimilate and care for the “Palestinian” refugees, as Israel did for their Jewish refugees, there would be no refugee problem. Instead they use the refugees as political pawns in their struggle against Israel. No Arab country that wants “Palestinian Arabs” in their country as they would rather use the “Palestinian Arabs” as pawns rather than assimilate them into their populations and bring peace to the Middle East.

Israel is the aggressor against defenseless Palestinians
In its brief history, Israel has had one war after another and each time they are blamed as the aggressor. The Arabs do not recognize the right of Israel to exist and are in a constant state of hostility against Israel. Their aim is to destroy Israel.

Jerusalem is holy to Muslims
While Jerusalem is mentioned over eight hundred times in the Bible, it is not mentioned one time in the Koran. Muslims have had little or no interest in Jerusalem until the Jewish presence in modern times.

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by Shawn Herleshttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487780
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:08:03 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487780There Was Never A Country Called Palestine

If you consider Palestine to be a “Sovereign” and “Independent” country that goes back through most of recorded history as many would have you to believe, then a few questions need to be answered:

When was it founded and by whom?

What were its borders?

What was its capital?

Who was the President?

What was its form of government?

What were its major cities?

What constituted the basis of its economy?

Who was the Palestinian leader before Yasser Arafat?

Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?

What was the language of the country of Palestine?

What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?

What was the name of its currency and what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, or Japanese yen on any particular date?

And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

If these so-called “Palestinians” are anything but a generic collection of Arabs from all over the rest of the Arab world and if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, then why did they never try to become an independent and sovereign nation until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War in 1967?

]]>Comment on Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress by UglyTruthhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/netanyahus_speech_to_congress.html/comment-page-1#comment-1487778
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:04:48 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487778Netenyahu is a hypocrite for accusing Iran of terrorism when the state of Israel itself has an extensive history of carrying out acts of terrorism.
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Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:04:45 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=92517#comment-1487777A Few Forgotten Facts

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people’s lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO’s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.