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That means nothing to me, when a team is a final 4 team 2 straight years they are one of the best and elite. When you help your team win 4 road playoff games in 2 years you are good.

There is a very small % of fans who truly understand the game on ALL boards, I am not bashing phin fans. Most fans evaluate based strictly on #s, you can have your Philip rivers types, you won't win w/ them. Give Mark some weapons and it is proven you can win.

I'd say you've bashed about 90% of the people on this site. The ones you'd talked to at least. Seeing as how none of us agree with you on your views regarding the Jets, you fire back that we know nothing about the game. Why be here if that is true then? Do you view yourself as an NFL Prophet that needs to be here to school us on how a sport works?

people view the ongoing buttfumble saga as a negative but if that happened to an irrelevant franchise like Miami or Buffalo it would have been forgotten so I take it as an honor it stayed up there for so long.

You just bought your ticket to the nuthouse with that statement. Well done.

As somebody else said it best on the Jets message board, with our resident troll, whatever the situation is he will change his view on it to make it seem like he's right. Perfect example was he argued with someone that the 36yrd line was closer to mid field (when it helped his point of view) and in a previous post he had argued the 36yrd line was closer to a TD, or something like that. How or why would you ever get into a "debate" with someone that acts that way?

Back to LOL @ The Jets.... I'm looking forward to see how they handle the Bucs, have to admit I was looking forward to seeing Sanchez throw a pick 6 to Revis and listen to how the stadium boos him.

people view the ongoing buttfumble saga as a negative but if that happened to an irrelevant franchise like Miami or Buffalo it would have been forgotten so I take it as an honor it stayed up there for so long.

people view the ongoing buttfumble saga as a negative but if that happened to an irrelevant franchise like Miami or Buffalo it would have been forgotten so I take it as an honor it stayed up there for so long.

Actually it has developed into such a memorable negative because:

a) it just underscored the futility of someone who's generally considered the worst, in-over-his-head tenured starting QB in the league
b) rarely does anything happen on the field that's so comically inept
c) occurring on the biggest national stage, it provided widespread confirmation to both those who already were aware of Sanchez's suckage as well as an eye-opener for those objective fans who were to that point hanging on to whatever delusions about him.
d) Sanchez's head up his teammate's butt is a perfect metaphor for both his skillset and his HC's oblivious refusal to relieve him of his duties.

and that's why this play by Mark "The Buttfumbler" Sanchez will forever rank up there with rarified NFL blunders like the brainfarts of Jim "Wrong Way" Marshall and Leon "The Gazelle" Lett. Factually it was the only relevant play over the last 1.5 years of jest irrelevancy.

The Jets are the luckiest damn team I have ever seen in my life. I thought about making a thread about it but I figured I would just post it in here. Dammit I'm tired of them having **** bounce their way and getting wins they didn't earn

Geno had a very promising first start as a Jet. Thats what I take away from this game. The Jets are a rebuilding team and probably at best the third best team in the AFC East this year but i'll take any win I can get. Great day!