Really ? this is just like any other gun thats out there <- think about it.

I don't get your point. We were discussing your definition of a machine gun, not what is a semi-automatic. Fully automatics (machine guns) keep firing as long as you keep the trigger down, not like the one bullet one pull like semis and revolvers.

One can not have exactly immediate punishment , of ourse, but it needs to be much quicker.

Over the last four years I've had the opportunity to be at court hearings at our local level. I've seen case after case deferred , continued or what ever, to put off the miscreant having to pay for his crime. With o much time between the crime and the punishment , the perp forgets what he did. Well, he doesn't forget but it's severity diminishes .

There was one case where a man was in court for a DUI. But before he could be adjudicated for the crime he had another DUI. Something wrong there.

Another one was for the guy who walked into my home and threatened me. When we went to court, he was out of town . He'd skipped. He had been in trouble in another town when he accosted my home.

Dave

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There are 10 kinds of people.Those that understand binary and those that don't.

A single action handgun, like the early rifles and revolvers one has to manually cock the hammer before firing and after loading the round in the chamber or barrel. The trigger does nothing but release the hammer letting it strike the primer in the cartridge.

A double action handgun is one that the trigger pull first cocks the hammer then releases the hammer when the trigger has pulled back far enough . This extra action takes more strength as pulling the trigger has to pull against the spring of the hammer.

The early revolvers, like the Colt, Smith, Remmington and many others, were single action only. One had to pull back the hammer which rotated the cylinder and cocked the hammer. Thus the trigger pull could be very slight, sometimes called a hair trigger.

Later some revolvers were double action. The heavy trigger pull , rotated the cylinder, cocked the hammer against its spring, then released the hammer.

Modern semi automatic pistols can be single or doulble action. Or double action only. With The single/ double action modes , the first shot is double action. Since the next shot is loaded in the chamber by the recoil of the first and has the hammer cocked, it will be single action with just a slight trigger pull.

Some of the most modern pistols have no hammer at all but are fired by a striker which isa small pin hitting the primer. All shots are double action only, but the first round is cocked when the user pulls the slide back to chamber the first round. Up until he chambers that first round the gun is useless. The Glock as well as others are of this type. Some like this as every trigger pull has the same tension. Also, there is no external hammer to catch on clothing when concealed.

In early repeating rifles the user had to chamber the round then cock the hammer. I believe the Spencer was like this. The Henry and its successor, the Winchester , clambering the round also cocked the hammer.

As an aside, remember the TV show Rifleman where Chuck Conners would cock and fire his rifle blazingly fast? His rifle was equipped with a screw that intruded into the trigger guard to push the trigger back to fire automatically as he finished cocking. He did not have to pull the trigger. It was used in some scenes but not all as it would fire every time it was cocked.

Dave

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There are 10 kinds of people.Those that understand binary and those that don't.

The difference would be how many people you can potentially kill in a given length of time. Automatics run at 500+ rounds per minute, semi-autos closer to 100, and manual fire about 20-40. Then you have to consider magazine size, a well practiced person can change a magazine in a couple of seconds, where weapons without removable magazine can take 10 seconds (depending upon how many cartridges it holds) and single shot muzzle loaders 20-30 seconds.

Reducing the number of rounds a person can fire in a minute, while increasing the time it takes to reload reduces the effectiveness of a mass shooter (so in theory more people will survive) and give the chance for a hero to attack the shooter while he's having to reload. This of course assumes the shooter is not carrying multiple weapons, or has weapons that he's not legally allowed to own.

Edited by Llewelyn (02/05/1303:40 AM)

_________________________I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.

I will tell you what they can do. Pass a law that a person can have as many guns as he wants. But it can only hold one bullet at a time. Further legislate that this one bullet must be stored separate from the gun in a locked box . This locked box must be kept in a separate room. The two rooms must be separated from each other by a locked door.

Dave

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There are 10 kinds of people.Those that understand binary and those that don't.

I will tell you what they can do. Pass a law that a person can have as many guns as he wants. But it can only hold one bullet at a time. Further legislate that this one bullet must be stored separate from the gun in a locked box . This locked box must be kept in a separate room. The two rooms must be separated from each other by a locked door.

Dave

Extremism at its best.You're showing your true colors. I'm still waiting for some links to libtards/progressives/Democrats who are clamoring to have ALL guns banned and confiscated.In fact, one would be hard pressed to find a site like that, Dems advocating extreme measures... yet I have no problem running across several GOP/redneck/pro-gun conspiracy wing nut sites every week.

"If it turns out that President Barack Obama can make a deal with the most intransigent, hard-line, unreasonable, totalitarian mullahs in the world but not with Republicans? Maybe he’s not the problem."

I will tell you what they can do. Pass a law that a person can have as many guns as he wants. But it can only hold one bullet at a time. Further legislate that this one bullet must be stored separate from the gun in a locked box . This locked box must be kept in a separate room. The two rooms must be separated from each other by a locked door.

Dave

They were most of the way there in the UK back when you could own firearms. The gun had to be locked in a safe, unloaded. The bullets had to be locked in a separate safe, both safes had different keys. Result was you could not rely on a firearm for protection as it would take too long to retrieve it and the ammunition and get it loaded. And criminals kind of ignored these restrictions. All the regulations tend to do is to defang folks wanting firearms for protection, while the folks you want following the regulations ignore them like the do the existing regulations.

_________________________I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.

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