I was told that if you do vipasana you would fall asleep as much as needed - but sometimes i need to sleep good now for a later no-sleep period - all for worldly purposes

for instance i was told that if i notice the rising and falling i would fall much faster than if i do a "body scan"

and for instance sometimes it seems i fall asleep much faster just lying down moving and thinking - in comparison to lying down and being mindful of stuff because that way i can stay awake much longer

so instead of just lying there would be nice to do some meditation - the one which will help me fall asleep the fastest - maybe samtha ? metta (but i think metta helps sleep faster in general not specifly faster if done before sleep?) ? counting breaths ? ect

Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

There's nothing wrong with this train of thought: even meditators need to get some sleep so that they can wake up refreshed and ready for the next day's work.

If you're suffering from insomnia due to thinking too much, focus awareness on the body. Sweep the entire body from head to foot, noting all of the sensations of touching, and contemplating the abdominal movements of rising and falling, or the touch of the breath at the nostrils if mindfulness of respiration is your usual practice.

Don't keep changing your body posture, and don't worry too much about not sleeping. If you rest the body and mind thoroughly with Satipaṭṭhāna meditation, that is all the rest it needs.

When I have difficulty falling asleep, such as when a busy day keeps my mind swimming at night, I have literally parked my laptop next to my sleeping pad, and put on a youtube dhamma talk. Tis seems to place my mind in a place, where, after enjoying the first minutes of a dhamma talk, my next memory is of waking up. Kind of like reading a good book at night, but reading at night just never did it for me. The mindful audio did. Give it a try, and see if it works for you if you're not getting enough sleep or have insomnia.

purple planet wrote:bhante i was told that if i add touching points to the "rising" and "falling" it will keep me awake - you dont think its true ?

Never mind what others tell you. Everyone is different. Try different techniques yourself and see what works for you. Metta works for some.

Sweeping slowly, noting a few points, or many, or focussing more on abdominal movements. Whatever works is fine. Excess of energy leads to restlessness, excess of concentration leads to sloth. It's all about getting the energies back into balanced by applying mindfulness. If you spend the entire night noting mindfully without a break, as long as the restless thoughts cease and you're not just tossing and turning all night, you will be rested in the morning.

After noting for a long while, if the pain of staying in one posture becomes unbearable, then mindfully turn over to the other side. Do it slowly, so that you don't lose mindfulness, then resume sweeping as before.

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.” - Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:in mountain clefts and chasms,loud gush the streamlets,but great rivers flow silently.- Sutta Nipata 3.725

purple planet wrote:What is the best meditation technique to fall asleep fast ?

Reading the Digha Nikaya.

Are you questioning the efficacy of the anadighanikayavibhangasati meditation method?

I was actually half-serious. Reading some Buddhist texts in bed relaxes my mind and prepares it for sleep. And it's more conducive to sleep than more stimulating material like novels and news. Surely there are worse things to do before bed?

Also, you should first consider physical factors. Maybe you aren't tired enough during the day? A good gym workout can do wonders for your sleep.

I see the bright side of insomnia. It gives me more time for my meditation. I think, four hours sleep is enough for an adult. If body does not want to sleep let it be awake.Keep body still and eventually it will sleep.Who said that we have to sleep?