crazyjohn408 wrote:
Every time someone says Tobi uses his right eye only and Obito gave Kakashi his left, so he has to be Obito. That just doesn't make it so. Obito was already crushed at the time his eye was removed. However, it might be possible that he somehow became invincible and all of a sudden figured out how to move from a crushed state of being.... Yeah... I'm sure that is possible but highly unlikely. Also, Pain and Kisame recognize Tobi as Madara. Don't you think that Kakashi upon meeting Tobi would have recognized him if he truly was Obito. Kakashi was using his sharingan. He was also almost dead when Rin removed his eye. I also just re-read Gaiden and Obito's right eye was under the rock that crushed him. I doubt that eye is of much use now.

I see you point.. But, think of this.. His Right half was crushed.. It deosn't say that his right eye was one of them.. When Kakashi met Tobi.. It wasn't much of a reunion. It's just to kill time to Itachi and Sasuke..

And....
Have you heard the saying.. "A sensie must past his skills to his students?". Like the Jiraiya taugh Naruto the Rasengan and his skills and summon, Tsunade taugh Sakura, and Orochimaru to Sasuke..

In Naruto.. I know two character that uses teleport or time travel technique.. One is Tobi the other is Minato Namikaze the yellow flicker..

You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.. During that time.. Kakashi, Rin, and Obito was a team.. and there sensie is... DING DONG!!! The yellow flicker!! .. which can no doubt do time travel...

I'm not saying that the yellow flicker pass his teachings to his students.. Hahahah!! But if he does.. Then, it is freaking easy to escape that cave using time travel!! If that is true.. Then there is a no doubt that Tobi is Obito..

TOBI + O ====== OBITO

Hahahah!! there's only two flaw in my "THEORY"
1. The fact that Tobi accept that his Madara.
2. And Pain and Kisame recognize him as Madara.. (Itachi did not recognize Tobi to be Madara... I looked at the manga, and there's none)..

this is only my theory... no harm done.. Hahahah!!

I'm sorry... I really just got totally stupid from reading this post you just wrote...

I see you point.. But, think of this.. His Right half was crushed.. It deosn't say that his right eye was one of them..

This makes no sense... It says his RIGHT HALF was crushed and then goes on to say that it says nothing about that eye that is on his RIGHT HALF of his body... Which, if I may remind you, was under a rock (RIGHT EYE under a rock)...

In Naruto.. I know two character that uses teleport or time travel technique.. One is Tobi the other is Minato Namikaze the yellow flicker..

You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.. During that time.. Kakashi, Rin, and Obito was a team.. and there sensie is... DING DONG!!! The yellow flicker!! .. which can no doubt do time travel...

I'm not saying that the yellow flicker pass his teachings to his students.. Hahahah!! But if he does.. Then, it is freaking easy to escape that cave using time travel!! If that is true.. Then there is a no doubt that Tobi is Obito..

Since when did any character in the entire Naruto Universe have TIME TRAVEL abilities?... This is not DOCTOR WHO...

You also say "You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.."... I said no such thing... I said and here is a quote... "it might be possible that he somehow became invincible and all of a sudden figured out how to move from a crushed state of being.... Yeah... I'm sure that is possible but highly unlikely."

(Itachi did not recognize Tobi to be Madara... I looked at the manga, and there's none)..

What exactly have you been reading???? Are you retarded???? Itachi planted his Ametarasu into Sasuke as a precaution against Madara. In the entire Naruto Universe, there were FOUR (4) characters alive that could use sharingan. We know Itachi was trying to stop Madara. That is TWO (2). The other TWO (2) are Sasuke and Kakashi. If Itachi didn't recognize Tobi as Madara, then who else was there? Itachi knew Tobi was his teacher, DING DONG!!! Madara Uchiha, the Immortal One. Sorry... I used ONE (1) of your phrases there. Can you guess which one????

crazyjohn408
What exactly have you been reading???? Are you retarded???? Itachi planted his Ametarasu into Sasuke as a precaution against Madara. In the entire Naruto Universe, there were FOUR (4) characters alive that could use sharingan. We know Itachi was trying to stop Madara. That is TWO (2). The other TWO (2) are Sasuke and Kakashi. If Itachi didn't recognize Tobi as Madara, then who else was there? Itachi knew Tobi was his teacher, DING DONG!!! Madara Uchiha, the Immortal One. Sorry... I used ONE (1) of your phrases there. Can you guess which one????

What exactly have you been reading???? sorry just used your phrase.. Dude.. your the one that's retarded.. I said it's only my theory.. my "THOERY" Duh!! no need to get upset.. no harm done dude... I don't know why you're so mad.. It's just my little theory and wanted to share it.. Your not the boss of anyone.. I post what I want to post...

crazyjohn408 wrote:
Since when did any character in the entire Naruto Universe have TIME TRAVEL abilities?... This is not DOCTOR WHO...

You also say "You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.."... I said no such thing... I said and here is a quote... "it might be possible that he somehow became invincible and all of a sudden figured out how to move from a crushed state of being.... Yeah... I'm sure that is possible but highly unlikely."

Oh yeah.. it's only teleport.. and dude... It's not stated that his Right eye was crushed too.. And if he uses teleport.. he can get out of the cave with no worries...

I'm sorry... I really just got totally stupid from reading this post you just wrote...

sorry dude It's just a theory.. I did not really state that Obito is Tobi.. that was just a theory.. no harm done..

crazyjohn408 wrote:
Every time someone says Tobi uses his right eye only and Obito gave Kakashi his left, so he has to be Obito. That just doesn't make it so. Obito was already crushed at the time his eye was removed. However, it might be possible that he somehow became invincible and all of a sudden figured out how to move from a crushed state of being.... Yeah... I'm sure that is possible but highly unlikely. Also, Pain and Kisame recognize Tobi as Madara. Don't you think that Kakashi upon meeting Tobi would have recognized him if he truly was Obito. Kakashi was using his sharingan. He was also almost dead when Rin removed his eye. I also just re-read Gaiden and Obito's right eye was under the rock that crushed him. I doubt that eye is of much use now.

I see you point.. But, think of this.. His Right half was crushed.. It deosn't say that his right eye was one of them.. When Kakashi met Tobi.. It wasn't much of a reunion. It's just to kill time to Itachi and Sasuke..

And....
Have you heard the saying.. "A sensie must past his skills to his students?". Like the Jiraiya taugh Naruto the Rasengan and his skills and summon, Tsunade taugh Sakura, and Orochimaru to Sasuke..

In Naruto.. I know two character that uses teleport or time travel technique.. One is Tobi the other is Minato Namikaze the yellow flicker..

You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.. During that time.. Kakashi, Rin, and Obito was a team.. and there sensie is... DING DONG!!! The yellow flicker!! .. which can no doubt do time travel...

I'm not saying that the yellow flicker pass his teachings to his students.. Hahahah!! But if he does.. Then, it is freaking easy to escape that cave using time travel!! If that is true.. Then there is a no doubt that Tobi is Obito..

TOBI + O ====== OBITO

Hahahah!! there's only two flaw in my "THEORY"
1. The fact that Tobi accept that his Madara.
2. And Pain and Kisame recognize him as Madara.. (Itachi did not recognize Tobi to be Madara... I looked at the manga, and there's none)..

this is only my theory... no harm done.. Hahahah!!

I'm sorry... I really just got totally stupid from reading this post you just wrote...

I see you point.. But, think of this.. His Right half was crushed.. It deosn't say that his right eye was one of them..

This makes no sense... It says his RIGHT HALF was crushed and then goes on to say that it says nothing about that eye that is on his RIGHT HALF of his body... Which, if I may remind you, was under a rock (RIGHT EYE under a rock)...

In Naruto.. I know two character that uses teleport or time travel technique.. One is Tobi the other is Minato Namikaze the yellow flicker..

You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.. During that time.. Kakashi, Rin, and Obito was a team.. and there sensie is... DING DONG!!! The yellow flicker!! .. which can no doubt do time travel...

I'm not saying that the yellow flicker pass his teachings to his students.. Hahahah!! But if he does.. Then, it is freaking easy to escape that cave using time travel!! If that is true.. Then there is a no doubt that Tobi is Obito..

Since when did any character in the entire Naruto Universe have TIME TRAVEL abilities?... This is not DOCTOR WHO...

You also say "You said that Obito might be invincible to escape that cave.."... I said no such thing... I said and here is a quote... "it might be possible that he somehow became invincible and all of a sudden figured out how to move from a crushed state of being.... Yeah... I'm sure that is possible but highly unlikely."

(Itachi did not recognize Tobi to be Madara... I looked at the manga, and there's none)..

What exactly have you been reading???? Are you retarded???? Itachi planted his Ametarasu into Sasuke as a precaution against Madara. In the entire Naruto Universe, there were FOUR (4) characters alive that could use sharingan. We know Itachi was trying to stop Madara. That is TWO (2). The other TWO (2) are Sasuke and Kakashi. If Itachi didn't recognize Tobi as Madara, then who else was there? Itachi knew Tobi was his teacher, DING DONG!!! Madara Uchiha, the Immortal One. Sorry... I used ONE (1) of your phrases there. Can you guess which one????

People u are so retarded, do u actually read the mnga or just look at all the pretty pictures.
Tobi himself says 'it was me Uchiha madara' so why all the confusion. Ok you're going on about tobi's right eye. Look wat happened to sasuke when he first say tobi. his left eye (only one eye) got activated. maybe thats his stronger eye. that maybe the case with tobi. his right is the stronger one after taking his brothers eye. If you still dont believe that tobi ismdara then here:

Once again.. All I wrote was just Theory.. no harm done.. Sorry if I offended some of you.. This is a discussion furom... therefore I just discussed something.. I'm not a perfect person..

crazyjohn408.. sorry if I offended you dude.. It's a theory..

Therefore.. no harm done.. Sorry!!

You didn't offend me... I just can't believe how hard some of you people are trying to twist and bend facts in the manga just to make these twisted THEORIES... All theories have to follow certain guidelines... Those guidelines are the facts already collected... Here are the facts we already know:

1. Obito had the RIGHT HALF of his body crushed. Last panel with Obito in it has his RIGHT EYE under a rock being crushed.
2. Pein, Kisame and Itachi all recognize Tobi as Madara Uchiha.
3. Tobi, himself, has proclaimed on two occasions that he is Madara Uchiha.
4. (This is the last one) Kakashi gained the Mangekyo Sharingan only after learning the requirements for obtaining it. To obtain the Mangekyo Sharingan, one must kill his closest friend. Kakashi in a way had already done that, but I believe he achieved it by concentrating on the idea that just losing those closest to you will awaken the Mangekyo Sharingan. (This is also just a THEORY but one supported by facts that can be established in the manga. It is called a THEORY because of the fact that it's never fully explained yet.)

Sorry if I am a total PRICK. I am just sick of people trying to twist facts to support delusions.

Just being Politically Correct... The comment wasn't just meant for you... I was being somewhat sarcastic... I knew more than just you and I can comprehend what we have read... Sorry if it offended you.