I'm not sure if it's just the fact that I'm currently using Internet Explorer (school computer! Don't shoot me!), but it appears that you aren't using the mouseover text the Escapist totally added. If it's just my browser, then just ignore me while I place my pants on my head.

Anyways, thank you for the clarification! I still don't totally understand it though (I hear these things are complicated), and will have to continue to defer to my judge friends when playing EDH.

I'm not sure if it's just the fact that I'm currently using Internet Explorer (school computer! Don't shoot me!), but it appears that you aren't using the mouseover text the Escapist totally added. If it's just my browser, then just ignore me while I place my pants on my head.

Anyways, thank you for the clarification! I still don't totally understand it though (I hear these things are complicated), and will have to continue to defer to my judge friends when playing EDH.

That's weird, it's working for me in both IE and FF. I suspect I'd have an angry tech team on my hands if I didn't utilize the mouseover images after they put in all the work to implement them!

I have a question about Turn to Frog... I've always been confused by it. Does the target creature lose all abilities permanently, as indicated by taking a literal approach to the rules text? If not, it should read, "Until end of turn, target creature loses all abilities and becomes a 1/1 blue Frog". The wording makes all the difference, at least to me... =/

zeekyle:unless I'm wrong here, you wouldn't be able to cast Turn to Frog on Dungrove Elder because of the hexproof... right?

You can cast it on your own Dungrove Elder because hexproof only applies to spells and abilities that your opponents control. If Turn to Frog is a spell you cast yourself, the Elder will be affected normally.

CounterAttack:I have a question about Turn to Frog... I've always been confused by it. Does the target creature lose all abilities permanently, as indicated by taking a literal approach to the rules text? If not, it should read, "Until end of turn, target creature loses all abilities and becomes a 1/1 blue Frog". The wording makes all the difference, at least to me... =/

zeekyle:unless I'm wrong here, you wouldn't be able to cast Turn to Frog on Dungrove Elder because of the hexproof... right?

You can cast it on your own Dungrove Elder because hexproof only applies to spells and abilities that your opponents control. If Turn to Frog is a spell you cast yourself, the Elder will be affected normally.

As to the Dungrove, I edited that after zeekyle pointed out the error. :) The original had the Opponent targeting the Dungrove, which is bad.

As to Turn to Frog, the entire effect lasts until End of Turn. Grammatically speaking, you may be correct but the intent certainly seems to be simply applying the whole of the spell's effect until EOT.

Draconalis:Sublime Archangel. That bitch is NUTS! She's a "Gives everything exalted" lord that has exhaled... so by herself she's a 4/3 flyer that attacks for 5 for 4 mana.

If they make a white 1 drop exalted, that's what I would replace champion with... because then she can hit for 17 or 18 if I can get the other one drop to be him too.

Yes! I'd love to see an Exalted 1-drop for this set, maybe they'll reprint Akrasan Squire! A token strategy with Sublime Archangel definitely seems like the way to go. Increasing Devotion on turn 5 seems pretty good here as well.

Yes! I'd love to see an Exalted 1-drop for this set, maybe they'll reprint Akrasan Squire! A token strategy with Sublime Archangel definitely seems like the way to go. Increasing Devotion on turn 5 seems pretty good here as well.

You wouldn't have the mana to pop the shrine, which by that point would have 6 charge counters on it making 6 Myrs. For max bang for your buck, the shrine is the way to go. Increasing Devotion might be a decent mid game plan though for instant buffs later, or an alternative when Scars drops.

Slycne:She isn't legendary either, so you drop another and your power doubles.

Odric, Master Tactician is also looking really good for my white deck.

Oh believe me... that little fact did not elude me :D

I like Odric... but he seems better for white and green decks that can be more tricksie

Case in point, you can get deathtouch in green.

True, though the bane of most white weanie decks is the game dragging out and big blockers hitting the board. Odric is essentially free unblockable every turn for any kind of token generation or flood of small creatures decks.

Slycne:True, though the bane of most white weanie decks is the game dragging out and big blockers hitting the board. Odric is essentially free unblockable every turn for any kind of token generation or flood of small creatures decks.

Ah, true. I hadn't thought about "You control the blocks" in terms of "No one should block this turn"

Her ultimate.... but the time you can get it off... you have 7 land already... why do you need 28 mana in standard black?!

I just... don't understand.

I have to assume they're going to give us some variety of mana sink for this. Liliana's Shade is a good start, though not terribly exciting. Maybe they're reprinting Drain Life or something and we're just going to be able to win on the spot?

I have to assume they're going to give us some variety of mana sink for this. Liliana's Shade is a good start, though not terribly exciting. Maybe they're reprinting Drain Life or something and we're just going to be able to win on the spot?