This is a discussion on an embarassing moment, a dumb question... within the online poker forums, in the Poker Rooms section; hi everybody, i hope you can give me some insight on something that happened to me at a table tonight. I had been playing at

hi everybody, i hope you can give me some insight on something that happened to me at a table tonight. I had been playing at a 1/3 nl for about four hours and was playing okay, but I was getting tired and ready to leave. I'm coming to be sort of a regular in the room, and the casino is new to the area. Anyways, I was dealt AK off suit under the gun and raised to 12. After two callers, a fourth raised to 60. It was folded around to me, and wanting to leave winning put me in a tough spot. I thought for a while and, on a frustrated whim, tossed my cards face up onto the table, exposing my folded cards. The dealer said that it was a "huge deal" and explained why, and I told him I didn't know any better. It's not that I didn't really, but I just didn't think at all about the people that had yet to act behind me. I got up and left immediately afterward, partly out of embarrassment, and partly because I was ready to leave anyway. My question is, how big of a deal is it, really? Can you get kicked out for doing it? I felt like I was doing the right think by excusing myself from the table right away. I sure felt dumb.

With people left to act you are not suppose to expose your cards. It's a basic rule and my guess is since you've been there frequently, everyone assumed you 'knew what you were doing at the table' and got more upset then if you were a complete noob.

Imo, learn the mistake and get back into the room any time like you feel like it. It's a mistake, it happens to everyone.

Cheers

#3

22nd November 2011, 11:36 PM

JusSumguy [4,272]

Lets say there's a guy with 66 and he's convinced himself that if you fold he's gonna push? And you reveal a 6 on your fold?

Think that might change the action?

It's a real big deal. Lesson learned. Ten lashes with a wet noodle.

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#4

24th November 2011, 2:19 AM

KoRnholio [907]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: PLO

Yeah, folding+showing if you aren't already heads up is a pretty big no-no.

#5

3rd January 2012, 9:06 PM

TheGenera1 [569]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: NL Holdem

Im gona bump this. I was up over 400 dollars in an Australian casino. (star city) and getting ready to leave, I was UTG and was the last hand of the night I had decided.

I raised with Pocket kings, got shoved all in for 300 dollars by a player and then after a stupidly long decision folded the kings face up after a short stack called the all in with AK.

It was the best fold of my life, the other guy had queens and hit a set on the flop. If I had called it would have ruined almost all of my profit for the last 5 hours.

I was allowed to show them face up because the rest of the table was either all in or folded. The look of shock on their faces at the fold, and then the even bigger shock when then the queen fell on the flop. I wont forget it lol.

ps I dont care if you bitch at me for folding kings, I blew my winning on a great new years eve not long after so I care not :P

#6

3rd January 2012, 9:16 PM

Humps [238]

Online Poker at: 888

Game: holdem

re: Poker & an embarassing moment, a dumb question...

You're about a 57% favourite, that was a bad fold. Don't look at the results of hands to judge your play.

#7

3rd January 2012, 9:40 PM

hawtshawt420 [216]

Poker at: Lock Poker

Game: Holdem

It may have been a bad fold but if you're leaving soon and youre happy with the stack why risk the bad beat? I know after several hours of playing and if i'm planning to leave and i'm happy with my stack i like to keep pots small. But I usually play house games so when I'm getting ready to leave more often than not a few others are too and the game will be done. That adds to desperation for tilty mcgee next to me thinks "I'm already down 150. what's another 50? this 6 8 suited looks pretty sexy."

#8

3rd January 2012, 9:58 PM

BlueNowhere [4,234]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: NLHE

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGenera1

Im gona bump this. I was up over 400 dollars in an Australian casino. (star city) and getting ready to leave, I was UTG and was the last hand of the night I had decided.

I raised with Pocket kings, got shoved all in for 300 dollars by a player and then after a stupidly long decision folded the kings face up after a short stack called the all in with AK.
It was the best fold of my life, the other guy had queens and hit a set on the flop. If I had called it would have ruined almost all of my profit for the last 5 hours.

I was allowed to show them face up because the rest of the table was either all in or folded. The look of shock on their faces at the fold, and then the even bigger shock when then the queen fell on the flop. I wont forget it lol.

ps I dont care if you bitch at me for folding kings, I blew my winning on a great new years eve not long after so I care not :P

LOL. Unless you really can't afford to lose it then it's disastrous and you may as well play BJ. If I was in the game game and up $150K then I'd probably do what thay guy did with aces and fold but unless you're broke it makes zero sense, your reason fo it being a good fold is even worse.

#9

4th January 2012, 5:35 PM

TheGenera1 [569]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: NL Holdem

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawtshawt420

It may have been a bad fold but if you're leaving soon and youre happy with the stack why risk the bad beat? I know after several hours of playing and if i'm planning to leave and i'm happy with my stack i like to keep pots small. But I usually play house games so when I'm getting ready to leave more often than not a few others are too and the game will be done. That adds to desperation for tilty mcgee next to me thinks "I'm already down 150. what's another 50? this 6 8 suited looks pretty sexy."

Exactly this reason. I was happy with my stack size.

@Humps, I see where youre coming from, I would never fold like that online, but when I play live, it's for fun and I have only played live 6-7 times and they are months apart. I was happy with my win Im really quite young and that's a lot of money to me.

@BlueNoWhere, When I play live on the odd occasion that I do, I don't play to increase a bank roll. I play for a bit of fun and to see if I can get my self some extra spending money for the upcoming night out or shopping trip. I wasn't going to risk ALL my profit for the session on the last hand of the night. I was happy with my win of 400 dollars and that was that. Can't work out if you're a troll or just really passionate about poker atm.

#10

4th January 2012, 6:56 PM

BlueNowhere [4,234]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: NLHE

A troll? You're on a poker forum, claim folding kings was the best fold of your life because a guy would've made a set of queens, thne you say you can't work out if I'm a troll? ****ing moron.

#11

4th January 2012, 7:04 PM

baudib1 [6,604]

Poker at: Full Tilt

Game: NLHE

General, as long as you acknowledge you're playing recreationally and under-rolled it's fine, just understand that it's not good or even marginal, it's downright horrible and your outlook is not going to produce long-term good results for you. Passing up hugely +EV spots like folding Kings there is terrible poker.

#12

4th January 2012, 7:10 PM

duggs [9,065]

re: Poker & an embarassing moment, a dumb question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGenera1

Im gona bump this. I was up over 400 dollars in an Australian casino. (star city) and getting ready to leave, I was UTG and was the last hand of the night I had decided.

I raised with Pocket kings, got shoved all in for 300 dollars by a player and then after a stupidly long decision folded the kings face up after a short stack called the all in with AK.

It was the best fold of my life, the other guy had queens and hit a set on the flop. If I had called it would have ruined almost all of my profit for the last 5 hours.

I was allowed to show them face up because the rest of the table was either all in or folded. The look of shock on their faces at the fold, and then the even bigger shock when then the queen fell on the flop. I wont forget it lol.

ps I dont care if you bitch at me for folding kings, I blew my winning on a great new years eve not long after so I care not :P

you wouldnt be calling it the best fold of your life if your hand had won.. since you were a massive favourite to double your earnings you messed the hand up. you are using really flawed logic. "4 guys went all in preflop for 400BB and i made the worst fold of my life throwing away 72o, i would have rivered a straight and beaten AA AA KK QQ "

#13

5th January 2012, 2:06 AM

TheGenera1 [569]

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: NL Holdem

You know my post wasn't about it being "the fold of my life" you people seem to think that was the main focus of the story. I'm not saying it was a "good fold" I'm saying it was a lucky fold. The words lucky and good are not mutually exclusive.

But anyway, that was my little story about what I found an interesting event.

#14

5th January 2012, 2:12 AM

PotluckXXI [519]

Online Poker at: Bodog

Game: PLO

Theory of Poker: if the cards were face up would you have played the same? would they? Everyone has had K's cracked by A rag, if the cards were face up would you have played different? the other guy has Q's, 2 freaking outs! Results oriented thinking, lucky fold but bad decision.

#15

5th January 2012, 4:27 AM

jaymfc [6,275]

Poker at: bodog/bovada

Game: love em all

bad poker fold , good strategy fold on just keeping your winnings a bird in the hand is worth more then two in the bush

#16

6th January 2012, 3:33 PM

TheGenera1 [569]

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: NL Holdem

Thanks guys

@Pot Luck, I kid you not, I put him on queens, but I just had this weird feeling I was going to lose it all. Since I was just about to leave I wasn't going to risk it.

You know my post wasn't about it being "the fold of my life" you people seem to think that was the main focus of the story. I'm not saying it was a "good fold" I'm saying it was a lucky fold. The words lucky and good are not mutually exclusive.

But anyway, that was my little story about what I found an interesting event.

TBH I'd rather be lucky than good anyday.

#18

6th January 2012, 5:10 PM

fletchdad [7,481]

Online Poker at: Weddings

Game: holdem

re: Poker & an embarassing moment, a dumb question...

I am never folding KK pre. Just cant do it.

And I would always hope to be lucky, and someday I may even be good....

But back to OP. It happened, dont worry about it. You know better now, so lesson learned.

#19

6th January 2012, 5:13 PM

JohnBoyWWFC [5,366]

Poker at: FTP/PS

Game: holdem

I had a similar experience, surprisingly @ Star City in Sydney. I'd sat down with around $100 and doubled it, this was on my 19th birthday and my first time playing in a casino. Anyway, I'd just got to $200 and thought, F it, I'm done, happy birthday me. I'll play to the BB and leave. Next hand, Aces. UTG raises to $22 ($1/$2), second guy calls. I just ship my $200 in the middle. KK and QQ call. Flop Q68. gg me.

I think most people here will agree - when it comes to telling poker stories - they are almost always mutually exclusive.

#21

6th January 2012, 7:56 PM

Leo 50 [1,286]

Poker at: Merge

Game: Holdem/Stud

No matter if it was a 'good' fold or a 'bad fold'
Congrats on a nice win for the session

#22

6th January 2012, 8:38 PM

jaymfc [6,275]

Online Poker at: bodog/bovada

Game: love em all

Quote:

Originally Posted by fletchdad

I am never folding KK pre. Just cant do it.

And I would always hope to be lucky, and someday I may even be good....

But back to OP. It happened, dont worry about it. You know better now, so lesson learned.

agreed I would never fold kk pre . BUT I never say never so I'll say 99% of the time . but under his circumstances I would have done the same . and even if I seen kk come on the flop (after fold ), although disappointed , I would walk away with a smile no lesson learned here for him . his guaranteed win of $400 had way more value then the POSSIBLE $1200 win at that time . jmo

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoyWWFC

I had a similar experience, surprisingly @ Star City in Sydney. I'd sat down with around $100 and doubled it, this was on my 19th birthday and my first time playing in a casino. Anyway, I'd just got to $200 and thought, F it, I'm done, happy birthday me. I'll play to the BB and leave. Next hand, Aces. UTG raises to $22 ($1/$2), second guy calls. I just ship my $200 in the middle. KK and QQ call. Flop Q68. gg me.

gg , bad birthday clearly no choice but you can see one bad move of folding could have guaranteed a good birthday and first casino experience

#23

7th January 2012, 2:07 PM

JohnBoyWWFC [5,366]

Poker at: FTP/PS

Game: holdem

Yeah, but then I wouldn't have had a bad beat story for people to feel sorry for. Win IMO.

#24

7th January 2012, 6:20 PM

jaymfc [6,275]

Online Poker at: bodog/bovada

Game: love em all

re: Poker & an embarassing moment, a dumb question...

but you would have a great 19th birthday story you could tell every year . and a good first time I went to a casino story lol . and who you kidding , if I had a nickle for every bad beat story you have , I'd be bankrolled for high stakes poker not to mention we already feel sorry for you (every time you play)

#25

13th January 2012, 5:32 PM

thejudge [25]

I've had a number of bad beats this week alone....I'm not gonna mention them here because lots of people get them all the time and other people's bad beat stories are boring. Ofcourse mine aren't...lol

#26

13th January 2012, 6:31 PM

JusSumguy [4,272]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenbob

TBH I'd rather be lucky than good anyday.

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#27

15th January 2012, 9:29 PM

rssurfer54 [557]

Poker at: RPM

Game: Hold em

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNowhere

A troll? You're on a poker forum, claim folding kings was the best fold of your life because a guy would've made a set of queens, thne you say you can't work out if I'm a troll? ****ing moron.

He has to be trolling you?

Except I don't think he is.

#28

16th January 2012, 9:30 PM

JohnBoyWWFC [5,366]

Online Poker at: FTP/PS

Game: holdem

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaymfc

but you would have a great 19th birthday story you could tell every year . and a good first time I went to a casino story lol . and who you kidding , if I had a nickle for every bad beat story you have , I'd be bankrolled for high stakes poker not to mention we already feel sorry for you (every time you play)

Cool.

#29

16th January 2012, 10:05 PM

fishinthesea [166]

Poker at: Bovada

Game: holdem

You should've just said oops, sorry, then the dealer would've said "AK revealed". Just to save yourself the embarassment.

#30

17th January 2012, 1:51 AM

-Phil Ivey27 [805]

Online Poker at: Poker Host

Game: hold em

re: Poker & an embarassing moment, a dumb question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinthesea

You should've just said oops, sorry, then the dealer would've said "AK revealed". Just to save yourself the embarassment.

He didn't know, and even worse off he showed it as if to say "look what big of a fold i'm making, respect buddy." But that's alright, you didn't know any better.

Two different stories up there, one KK pushes loses, one KK folds and wins.

Funny how the one who loses is correct though, regardless if you're just a recreational player do what you want.