Broktun:Don't you just want to slam the quarter down on the counter so the person will move on??

It is like being in the check out line at a grocery store and grandma is digging in her coin purse for exact change. Here is a damn quarter you hag, not get out of my way.

No I want do the magneto thing and pass the quarter through his skull. And then spin it at 15k rpm and have it transverse his GI tract and exit through his tiny urethra en route to his parents house to do the same farking thing.

Broktun:Don't you just want to slam the quarter down on the counter so the person will move on??

I have paid for the customer in front of me before when they were fumbling for change and holding up the line....I just wanted cigarettes, dammit and I wanted them like 5 minutes ago.

That said, WTF? fast food places are now charging for extra packs of condiments? I mean, they're charging $2 for 15 cents worth of soda, about the same for 40 cents worth of ground beef, lettuce and stale soggy bread. Can't they throw in the ketchup and ranch dressing or whatever the hell you want for free?

Jack in the Box is racist! Been to several different ones in different states, and it's always the same story. Me, a white guy orders chicken strips, and they give me ranch dressing. They don't even bother asking, they just assume that since I'm white I want ranch. I always have to demand my hot buffalo sauce! One day it happened again. But this time the guy 2 customers back ordered the same thing as me, only he was black. What did they do to him? BAM! Hot sauce! He didn't want hot sauce, he had to demand barbecue! RACISIM!

The one time that a cashier actually did as me what I wanted, I though Jack in the box had finally changed. NOPE! I said hot sauce, and she gave me damn taco sauce! I didn't want taco sauce! WTF?!? What is so hard to understand that a white guy likes hot sauce?!? Why is Jack in the Box so racist!?

gfid:Broktun: Don't you just want to slam the quarter down on the counter so the person will move on??

I have paid for the customer in front of me before when they were fumbling for change and holding up the line....I just wanted cigarettes, dammit and I wanted them like 5 minutes ago.

That said, WTF? fast food places are now charging for extra packs of condiments? I mean, they're charging $2 for 15 cents worth of soda, about the same for 40 cents worth of ground beef, lettuce and stale soggy bread. Can't they throw in the ketchup and ranch dressing or whatever the hell you want for free?

Did people really start abusing their free condiments?

You have way too much faith in humanity. Free condiments means never having to buy your own ketchup.

BetterMetalSnake:gfid: Broktun: Don't you just want to slam the quarter down on the counter so the person will move on??

I have paid for the customer in front of me before when they were fumbling for change and holding up the line....I just wanted cigarettes, dammit and I wanted them like 5 minutes ago.

That said, WTF? fast food places are now charging for extra packs of condiments? I mean, they're charging $2 for 15 cents worth of soda, about the same for 40 cents worth of ground beef, lettuce and stale soggy bread. Can't they throw in the ketchup and ranch dressing or whatever the hell you want for free?

Did people really start abusing their free condiments?

You have way too much faith in humanity. Free condiments means never having to buy your own ketchup.

Most McDs in Europe charged per-packet for ketchup in the 90s - AFAIK they still do.

I can kind of understand the condiment rage (sort of). My husband likes to dip his fries in Big Mac sauce. We always ordered a side of Big Mac sauce no problems for years and they would fill up a ketchup container. One time we are at a McD's and they say it will be 15 cents. Weird, but I wasn't going to argue. We get to the window, they hand us the cup, and I kid you not there was maybe a pea-sized amount of Big Mac sauce in the cup. I asked them politely if they could at least fill it to the top and she had to go get her manager. The manager comes out and says if I want it filled to the top I would need to pay .15 per squirt! Out of curiosity I told the biatchy manager okay and to fill it up. It came out to $3 for a ketchup cup of Big Mac sauce. I laughed, told her I wouldn't pay for that, and so she kicked us out for "wasting her time and resources".

Contacted McD corporate about the bizarre scenario and to their credit they hopped on the issue right away. We got a coupon book full of coupons and a call from the owner apologizing profusely saying he was unaware they were charging for condiments (didn't believe him, but it was the thought that counts). Two things happened: they have never charged for Big Mac sauce again and I've never seen that manager again, but I don't frequent McD's enough so that isn't a surprise. Either way, I was surprised how seriously our silly complaint was taken so I have nothing against McD's.

Savage Belief:Reminds me of the time I was at a waterpark and this 68 year old man was going down the waterslide. His speedo came off and his big balls were flopping around. Holy geeze I wanted to lick em!

hailin:We got a coupon book full of coupons and a call from the owner apologizing profusely saying he was unaware they were charging for condiments (didn't believe him, but it was the thought that counts). Two things happened: they have never charged for Big Mac sauce again and I've never seen that manager again, but I don't frequent McD's enough so that isn't a surprise.

Line up a bunch of fast food managers and you'll be hard-pressed to find the one that's not a jerk, but I think a lot of this sort of thing happens because the job is so absurd. Most of the employees obviously don't respect the job (they're deliberately set up for high turnover) and the customer base will include a sizeable chunk of the worst of humanity. Even in franchises where the stores are supposedly privately owned, they're under immense cost pressures. When a business model appeals to a screw-for-all of the lowest common denominator, Grade F meat only gets you so far. It's not like HQ cares; they collect their cut either way. I'm sure the condiments are dirt cheap but I'd guess most of these policies are in place because some asshole kept emptying the bin of ketchup packets or something.

Long story short, I doubt they're out to make money on charging for condiments; the idea is to keep people from walking out with half the store in their pockets.

hailin:I can kind of understand the condiment rage (sort of). My husband likes to dip his fries in Big Mac sauce. We always ordered a side of Big Mac sauce no problems for years and they would fill up a ketchup container. One time we are at a McD's.....I have nothing against McD's.

I worked at a major hotel in the late 70s as a cook and had to inventory everything. We made out own russian dressing i.e. Big Mac Sauce. The owner wanted to know the food cost on one paper cup, one ounce portion of the stuff we made by the barrel-full.I obliged and did the math.25¢

You would think Mickey Dees could just charge you a quarter at today's prices since they aren't mixing it up from scratch on site.

The McD's in my area had incredibly nasty employees, they were nowhere near civil. One night I went to get my daughter a Happy Meal, and the chick behind the counter was mopping with a gnarly mop. The guy up in front of me orders ice cream, and she gets it without washing her hands (no gloves either). I was *appalled*...she handled the ice cream cone! Then she got water for another dude, still no washing. When she went to get my daughter's HM, I made her wash her hands....*thoroughly* and put on gloves, while announcing loudly "not trying to be a jerk, but isn't there some kinda law about this?" All the employees were giving me the major stinkeye, as if I was the one being an ass. (I got her chicken nuggets, and I watched CLOSELY to see if they were gonna do something to it)

On the way out, the dude that bought the water called me over to his car. I told him "I wouldn't drink that water if I were you, the chick did NOT wash her hands after handling the puke mop". He says "I'm not gonna drink it, I'm from McD's CORPORATE, and I'm here to investigate this place...we've been getting major reports about the employees." He had seen my whole incident! He said, "Trust me on this one, HEADS WILL ROLL...you won't see *any* of these people working here as of next week."

Claude Ballse:Jack in the Box is racist! Been to several different ones in different states, and it's always the same story. Me, a white guy orders chicken strips, and they give me ranch dressing. They don't even bother asking, they just assume that since I'm white I want ranch. I always have to demand my hot buffalo sauce! One day it happened again. But this time the guy 2 customers back ordered the same thing as me, only he was black. What did they do to him? BAM! Hot sauce! He didn't want hot sauce, he had to demand barbecue! RACISIM!

The one time that a cashier actually did as me what I wanted, I though Jack in the box had finally changed. NOPE! I said hot sauce, and she gave me damn taco sauce! I didn't want taco sauce! WTF?!? What is so hard to understand that a white guy likes hot sauce?!? Why is Jack in the Box so racist!?

Come back when you have the chart showing what sauce goes with what products purchased by the color of the customer. Till then, I will assume this is just an employee issue, not a Jack in the Box issue. Even if this is a franchise policy, JitB wouldn't support this if they have any sense at all.

From now on, just bunk all condiment norms and just dunk your food in your drink. That'll learn 'em.

/never seen a JitB, so I don't get the hate.//Have been to a White Castle, I don't get the love for WC.///Any more, I stick to Halo Burger and Wendy's

LandOfChocolate:gfid: Can't they throw in the ketchup and ranch dressing or whatever the hell you want for free?

The first two packets were free.

Did people really start abusing their free condiments?

Yes. Would you expect any different?

Well, in my life the period when I ate the most fast food was late '80s to early '90s and I don't ever remember them charging for that stuff. Occasionally I grabbed a few extra packs of ketchup, but I never dumped the whole bin into my backpack. Heck, they usually threw in more ketchup than I needed.

I sometimes stole the ashtrays...remember, you used to be able to smoke in restaurants. Glass ashtrays were really classy, but not common among fast food places. Burger King had these really cheap-assed foil ashtrays, but KFC had nice solid metal ones.

Okay, so I abused them a bit, but I was a regular customer.They abused me as well. It's not like I stole ashtrays or more than a few extra ketchup packets every time I went.

If they feel the need to control it, I would expect them to just hand them out. 2 packs per order and more upon request as long as you're not being unreasonable and asking for 5 or 10 packs at a time.

Anyway, thank dawg I don't frequent any of those places anymore. I may hit them up once or twice per year whereas I used to hit them about 5 times a week. I was pretty shocked the last time I went to one. It was over $8 for a bacon burger, fries and a drink and they tried to "forget" my change.

FFS. I remember the days of 3 greasy stinky tacos for $1 at Jack in the Box and I loved them. Throw in a drink and I was set. Total cost about $2.

gfid:Anyway, thank dawg I don't frequent any of those places anymore. I may hit them up once or twice per year whereas I used to hit them about 5 times a week. I was pretty shocked the last time I went to one. It was over $8 for a bacon burger, fries and a drink and they tried to "forget" my change.

FFS. I remember the days of 3 greasy stinky tacos for $1 at Jack in the Box and I loved them. Throw in a drink and I was set. Total cost about $2.

Decided to take a big leap and try Sonic for breakfast. They forgot my small $2 orange juice, of course. When they brought it, it had ICE! What a ripoff. Two bucks for a Styrofoam cup of mostly ice? Never going back.

/No, I didn't send it back, because I did not want to drink who-knows-what.//Only ran across this once before in my long-ass life. Who puts ice in orange juice?

ristst:hailin: I can kind of understand the condiment rage (sort of). My husband likes to dip his fries in Big Mac sauce......

/Similar CSB

The McD's in my area had incredibly nasty employees, they were nowhere near civil. One night I went to get my daughter a Happy Meal, and the chick behind the counter was mopping with a gnarly mop. The guy up in front of me orders ice cream, and she gets it without washing her hands (no gloves either). I was *appalled*...she handled the ice cream cone! Then she got water for another dude, still no washing. When she went to get my daughter's HM, I made her wash her hands....*thoroughly* and put on gloves, while announcing loudly "not trying to be a jerk, but isn't there some kinda law about this?" All the employees were giving me the major stinkeye, as if I was the one being an ass. (I got her chicken nuggets, and I watched CLOSELY to see if they were gonna do something to it)

On the way out, the dude that bought the water called me over to his car. I told him "I wouldn't drink that water if I were you, the chick did NOT wash her hands after handling the puke mop". He says "I'm not gonna drink it, I'm from McD's CORPORATE, and I'm here to investigate this place...we've been getting major reports about the employees." He had seen my whole incident! He said, "Trust me on this one, HEADS WILL ROLL...you won't see *any* of these people working here as of next week."

/oh man, Kharma sometimes *rules*

Oh that is NASTY! Also it is sad you had to worry they would mess with your daughter's food. She is a CHILD for crying out loud. Degenerates.

McD's corporate is awesome though. Lots of franchise hq really don't give a damn about customers. McD's does and is always inspecting and getting on the case of franchise owners to step up. My friend owns a DQ and says he gets an annual inspection and new promotional material in the mail, but that is about all the interaction he has with DQ corporate. He knows the owner that owns most of our McD's and says he is constantly complaining he has 3 inspections a year, dozens of secret shoppers from corporate, and is required to submit monthly numbers and attend "re-training" meetings if their numbers are off more than two months in a row. Also he has to remodel practically every 3 years. My friend hasn't remodeled his DQ in ten years, he just updated the signage.

He routinely emptied the various packets of condiments into a plastic bag, along with utensils, napkins, and straws. Those little jam & jelly packs you find at breakfast buffets or some other places? Yep. Wrapped butter pats? You bet. Metal utensils, even the cheap ones? Them too.

We once took the whole fam damily out to dinner at a Persian restaurant, where he emptied anything not obviously being eaten on someone else's plate into a tote bag. On the way out the manager told him that if he wanted the meal to go, he should have simply asked.

trappedspirit:Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Didn't Jack in the Box kill a bunch of people with tainted meat years ago? Who that fark would eat at that shiathole??

You think they run their own butcher shop out back? lol

I don't remember the details, but Jack in the Box did have a problem with salmonella or e coli or some other thing years ago. They tried to blame the meat supplier, but the fact is that all of that could have been avoided if they had cooked the meat to a proper temperature.

In the aftermath, a lot of restaurants (not just fast food ones) started refusing to serve beef medium rare or rare. I like my steak bloody, dammit. Ground beef is much more susceptible to contamination anyway.

It was horrible, but we kind of forgot about it and most any restaurant will cook your steak rare if you want them too these days. Personally, I like it at least warm, but with blood still dripping off of it.

As long as we're biatching about fast food places. I have to say, as much as I hate the politics of the owners of chick-fil-a, it's the only fast food restaurant I can consistently go to where the employees don't make me feel like a piece of shiat for simply ordering food. I'm really sick of this "what do you want" look I get from every other fast food place I go to. It's not my fault your job sucks, I just want some lunch.

Of course, now I can't take my drink around with me without someone thinking I'm making a political statement. Please don't try to high-five me just because I have a chick-fil-a cup, I think your social views are repugnant, I just wanted some chicken.

gfid:trappedspirit: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Didn't Jack in the Box kill a bunch of people with tainted meat years ago? Who that fark would eat at that shiathole??

You think they run their own butcher shop out back? lol

I don't remember the details, but Jack in the Box did have a problem with salmonella or e coli or some other thing years ago. They tried to blame the meat supplier, but the fact is that all of that could have been avoided if they had cooked the meat to a proper temperature.

In the aftermath, a lot of restaurants (not just fast food ones) started refusing to serve beef medium rare or rare. I like my steak bloody, dammit. Ground beef is much more susceptible to contamination anyway.

It was horrible, but we kind of forgot about it and most any restaurant will cook your steak rare if you want them too these days. Personally, I like it at least warm, but with blood still dripping off of it.

I like my steak cooked such that if the dinner conversation requires a cow's opinion it can participate.

I can agree that McD's corporate is on top of things. For a while, my local McD's had this one nasty old hag taking drive up orders. She yelled into the mic and wouldn't shut up long enough to let you actually order. Then she'd screw up the order because she was confusing herself with her incessant butting in. Every interaction invariably went like this:

"CAN I TAKE YOUR ORDER?""Yeah, I'd like a number three...""WHAT DRINK WITH THAT?""Umm, a sweet tea...""IS THAT ALL?""No, I also need a 4 pc McNugget Happy Meal...""IS THAT A 4 OR 6 PIECE?""4...""WHAT DRINK WITH THAT?""Sprite, please...""IS THAT ALL?""No, I also need a number twelve...""WHAT DRINK WITH THAT?"Etc, Etc, until I was about ready to scream back at her:

"THIS IS A FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THIS BEFORE AND KNOW HOW TO ORDER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROMPT ME LIKE SOME MOUTH-BREATHING IDIOT."

But I didn't. After the third time of dealing with her, I sent a little email to McD's corporate. The next day, the manager of the store called me personally, said they'd had several complaints identical to mine, and that she was being moved off driveup. I think they actually eventually fired her. And I got a free meal out of it.