You know, if you want to learn about drifting, you should attend one of the winter driving schools held up in your parts. Various car clubs offer them every winter. They let you loose on a frozen lake and you learn car control under controlled circumstances. I used to have a blast in empty parking lots around Minneapolis after a good snow.

Hey, are you going to Brainerd with Northstar? If you can drift a car through turn 1 at 150 mph you got bigger cahones than I'll ever hope to have.

I wish I could be there. They are a really nice bunch of people. Tell Eric, Jorge and Tubby Butterman (very fast 330i ZHP) that I said hi.