Newcastle Show Renewed Interest In Watford Striker

Troy Deeney – 25 year-old Watford striker
This is not the first time Newcastle have been linked with this striker and twelve months ago we were also reported to be interested in Deeney.

In the last two seasons he has scored 45 goals in 91 appearances for Watford, and last season he knocked in 25 goals in 48 games.

Deeney become the first Watford player to score 20 league goals in consecutive seasons since Cliff Holton managed to do that way back in 1961.

The striker was the Watford Player of the Season last season, so he seems to be a decent enough player, but it’s a very big jump in class between the Championship and the Premier League – one of the top football leagues in the world.

The twenty five year old 6′ tall Birmingham-born player started out at the famous Aston Villa Youth Academy, but was released when he was 15, and he ended up at Walsall in 2006.

Deeney was at Walsall for four seasons and played there 136 times with 27 goals before he signed for Watford for around £500K on an initial two year contract.

In his four seasons at Watford he has scored a total of 61 goals in 177 appearances.

However Deeney has also been in trouble with the law – and in June of 2012, he was sentenced to ten months’ imprisonment for kicking a man in the head in a brawl, and he served three months of the sentence, before he was released.

It’s difficult to know if a player of this caliber – who seems a good goalscorer in the Championship – would make it in the Premier League.

Ashey has almost taken us to the level of Sports Direct which deals at the bottom end of the market, scratching for pennies, trading on famous names, once associated with quality and respect but now looked down upon.

If Sigurdsson is for sale we should really go in for him,quality player.
I actually think Deeney could do well in the PL with his attributes but of course you never know.
RememberJon Dal Tomasson,he was useless but excellent in Italy after.
Can’t think for the life of me that the club shop is having record sales :-0
Pathetic way to run a club Mike
Debt free is great but it’s dying because of lack of ambition

Marty
A bit unfair on Jon Dal Tomasson in my opinion.He was a 19 year old bought to link up with Shearer not as a lone striker.This link is to part of what Wikipedia says about him.
Newcastle United[edit]
His success attracted the interest of other clubs, and he completed a high profile move to the English FA Premier League club Newcastle United in July 1997, managed at the time by former Liverpool hero Kenny Dalglish. Dalglish saw Tomasson as the perfect link-up player to England national team striker Alan Shearer. The partnership initially worked well, with Tomasson impressing during a pre-season friendly tournament in the Republic of Ireland. However, a serious career threatening injury to Shearer, combined with the controversial transfer of popular striker Les Ferdinand to Tottenham Hotspur, meant that Tomasson was moved from his traditional attacking midfield position, to that of striker. He struggled to adapt to his new position on the field, and also struggled to adapt to the English game, due to his lack of physical strength,[4][5] and therefore he only managed to score four goals in 35 appearances in all competitions. The bad performance of Tomasson came at a time, where the entire team also played a season below their previous standard. In the previous two seasons, Newcastle United had achieved a runner up position in the Premier League, but for the 1997–98 season they only managed to get a 13th place.

nut meg,
Fair enough on JDT but 4 goals in 36.
What do you think of De Jong?
He’s only played 12 games,is he worth keeping?
He also may manage to get as many as JDT.
He also never got used to the PL and fans say he’s no good yet was a blinder of a player in holland.
I’d actually like to see him and his brother here next season.
On JDT I’m just pointing out that because a player is decent in one league isn’t a guarantee that they’ll do the same somewhere else.
But as usual,some players that leave nufc turn out to be quality when going to a better run club with better players around them and a better manager.

Nut meg
You are spot on with your assessment of JDT. Cracking record before and after, but very rarely as a lone striker. Unfortunately Shearer picked up his injury, and we didn’t have any suitable back up (other than an ageing Ian Rush).

Marty-Toon,
On De Jong, he never really excelled in Holland as a striker, he had one year with a decent goals return, but a very average record compared with other strikers in the Dutch league. He is another player who was mainly a link man/second striker there. The fact Pardew came out and said he was a natural goalscorer sort of set him up for a fall when he was here.

I’m not sure I’d keep him, if we were to get in another 2 strikers as well as him, then yes, but if he was one of 2 brought in, then I’d say no.

I Liked Luuk de Jong, he never scored any goals, but he did hold the ball up well and linked the midfield to the attack. We had no prolific goal scorers all season except Remy. de Jong came into a team playing very poor football and so was not given many chances.

The step up to the premier league is difficult even in a team that’s doing well. He came at the worst possible time with our team, I honestly think he deserves another chance to play in that No10 spot. I also think he was poorly managed by our inept manager.

If we are dipping into the Championship then I’d prefer to get Rhodes than Deeney. Ings will most likely stay at Burnley, gives him a chance to prove himself in a less pressured environment, and if he cuts it then he would easily get a move if Burnley went down, or if they stay up.

It beggars belief when you think of how players like Cisse, Remy and de Jong made runs forward only to see Tiote or Anita pass the ball backwards to Willo or Collo, All attacking instinct had been driven out of the team. We ended the season playing with 11 men behind the ball on our own 18 yard line. Pardrew has to be the worst manager in the entire world not just the Premier League.

Expat,
Yeah, you are right on the fee being more than we are willing to spend, but the options are fast running out. I see that we are being linked again with the lad at Metz in the French Second Division – Sakho. Reports say we will have to move fast to get him, another one gone then.

To be fair on the club, I have yet to see a striker that I’d want here and we could realistically get complete a transfer yet, so I am not hitting the panic button just yet. The worry does seem to be that the stories so far sound worryingly similar to last year.

I understand how you feel, I never got to many games because I am disabled and live on the east coast. The effort getting to games use to be worth it, But I will NEVER put myself through that again until Pardrew and Ashley have gone. I could still watch them on TV but really not sure it’s worth the effort either we are so depressing at the moment. Lets hope for a better season this year……HOPE that is.

Lil,
I’m really not sure how the set up works at the club, personally I don’t think we wanted to sign anyone over the last two windows to offset the cost of that massive layout of in between 19 or 30M an eternity ago, if we did try to get players in and have failed twice, is there anybody to pipe up and say, TV money has gone up, maybe we need to up the wages.

Expat,
But at the same time, he seems unwilling to negotiate on prices for selling players. £3million for Marveaux?? Based on what exactly? No one is interested in HBA, and won’t be until they miss out on their top targets and drop down their lists. No one will buy Obertan, and no one would match his wages if he were to be given away. He will be here.

Based on replacing leaving players, then I’d guess a striker and midfielder will come in before others leave, but whether they will be quality, who knows.

Jail,
Personally, I think the club are always keen to sign players. BUT only at a cost to the club that they feel is sufficient value to allow for a future profit. Hence all the lowballing offers. Cabella would never be a profitable signing at £15/16million (or whatever it is), particularly as we struggle to really improve players significantly. Cabella at £6.5 though could fetch £10 mill after a year with Pardew gradually stifling him, a nice little profit.

If we improved the coaching and style of the side on the other hand, players we buy for £10-15million could improve and increase in value, but that would all cost more money as well.

Marty
On LDJ,it’s a little bit like JDT for me.Brought in to score goals in a team that couldn’t string 2 passes together never mind create anything. A full pre-season training might make him look a better player than what we seen,a season long loan deal should provide the answer to that question,the way things are going it could be a possibility.The majority of players that come from a different league need time to adjust & the PL is a very difficult league,it’s fast & furious.I for one wouldn’t mind seeing the two De Jong brothers but can’t really see it happening.All transfers are gambles for various reasons,Fergie paid about 30 M or so for Veron & he wasn’t a rip roaring success but football is littered with players who flop at a different club but that doesn’t mean they are useless.

I think a big worry that for us fans is that Gosling only really started getting games after Cabaye left, imo Colback hasn’t been brought in as a squad player as our policy won’t allow for too much competition for places, I fear that the the Killingworth cruncher is Cabayes replacement.

Expat,
We all know that, but I doubt he will change his tune anytime soon. I think he knows he won’t always make a profit. That is why he lessens risk by not spending much in the first place.

In the short term relegation won’t hurt him, parachute payments are significant, and I imagine due to less TV exposure we would see him selling more of the advertising space. Not to mention the sale of ‘star’ players and the reduction in wage bills. The club would make less profit, but as long as he maintains a core side to come back up, it wouldn’t be too worrying financially.

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