HP's iPad Challenger To Be $549, Probably Dead On Arrivalhttp://www.businessinsider.com/hps-ipad-challenger-to-be-549-probably-doa-2010-4/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Thu, 17 Aug 2017 23:52:48 -0400Jay Yarowhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbf77187f8b9af74be60200Ian StansonFri, 09 Apr 2010 14:51:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbf77187f8b9af74be60200
Have to agree here. The last thing I want is a microsoft windows experience on my tablet.
Dead on arrival for sure. Will put a note on the calendar to revisit this thread in 6 months to see what has transpired.
If you want one ... just wait as they'll be cheap on overstock.comhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbba2a37f8b9a9e74da0300Lucky JimTue, 06 Apr 2010 17:07:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbba2a37f8b9a9e74da0300
You have no proof of what you're saying... these are only delirious from a fanatic. :-Phttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9eaf7f8b9a7219390000Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:50:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9eaf7f8b9a7219390000
"Seriously, are you really that stupid? Plug in a keyboard and mouse, you 'tard."
Why am I buying an HP touch tablet if I am attaching a keyboard and mouse?
"So where is your argument? Can you do that on your iPad or not?"
I don't see what your argument is. Yes, I can buy and install software on the iPad. Wasn't it you that started with the excellent point that applications are completely useless?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9e067f8b9aab73df0500Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:48:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9e067f8b9aab73df0500
Sorry, "So, now you are making that" should be "So, now you are making THE ARGUMENT that"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9ddf7f8b9ac512e20700Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:47:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb9ddf7f8b9ac512e20700
So, now you are making that, even when there is a viable alternative, you won't use it because it's an alternative? Okay, Veronica, you've got me: NetFlix is not available on the iPad for people who refuse to except the alternative of installing the app because they don't like alternatives. I think you happen to be in a very small group on this matter -- statistically irrelevant -- but okay. But seriously, you are all over the place: no apps whatsoever the web is just fine; I want to install apps like Photoshop, not apps tailored for touch; even if there is an alternative app for a web site, I refuse to use it because on another device I could use the web site. A very jumbled mess of arguments that don't dissuade myself and many others.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb97607f8b9ac7120e0000VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 16:19:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb97607f8b9ac7120e0000
Lets see. No flash support = crippled, free internet. Relevant; whether or not you have to pay for the app. Free apps, paid apps, doesn't matter. Some people do not want useless shit on their machines if an available, free alternative is out there. I do not have anything I do not actually use installed on my laptop as well as my Nexus One. I don't like using apps when there is a website, and that's it. Why waste space if you don't have to? Even if I do have a 1TB HDD, that's not the point. I do not like garbage taking up space. End of story.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb95657f8b9a1372080800VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 16:11:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb95657f8b9a1372080800
Seriously, are you really that stupid? Plug in a keyboard and mouse, you 'tard. The great thing about non Apple products is that they come with USB ports and everything else a standard device SHOULD come with. Every argument you pose on every discussion in this article is complete rubbish. You are the actual troll, only you are a defensive one. Go play with your toys and, like I said before, shut up.
""But, in order for me to be able to actually use it, I have to BUY and INSTALL software on my laptop or TABLET device." And?"
So where is your argument? Can you do that on your iPad or not? You never answered. That tells me that you can't, you know it, and you're too stupid to know when you shouldn't say anything.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb800e7f8b9abc7c610600Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:40:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb800e7f8b9abc7c610600
Now, you are slowly catching up, webcat.
As I said, I am doing exactly as you request with no additional steps on my part. You just don't like it and keep moving the goalposts even though the steps I am taking are just as easy.
The problem is: your initial statement is far more provocative and damning: you can't move files! Oh no! It's useless.
Of course, it's completely wrong. So.. you have to keep moving the goalposts to the point where you are saying, I want drag-and-drop standard hdd mounting... which 80% of the world could care less about.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7e2f7f8b9a9a6a240400Saratoga SamTue, 06 Apr 2010 14:32:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7e2f7f8b9a9a6a240400
Comparing 16 GB iPad ($499) with a 32 GB Slate ($549) and calling it expensive by $50 is brilliant!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7d1f7f8b9ad96ebb0500webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 14:27:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7d1f7f8b9ad96ebb0500
drag from pc to tablet and store not need to "SYNC" using iphone is the right approach fanboy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7c467f8b9ab57c7d0200Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:24:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7c467f8b9ab57c7d0200
"Ok, because you can't read plain English, you know, the part where I said I wasn't particularly talking about those 2 applications. " Even though those were the only two you specifically mentioned, okay.
"But, in order for me to be able to actually use it, I have to BUY and INSTALL software on my laptop or TABLET device." And?
"BTW, Photoshop and CAD on the iPad could never mimic the real deal. Just not going to happen."
No shit. The same way the full versions running on a Windows tablet with no keyboard will never fly for an actual user -- again, I know, I have TRIED. These apps are two powerful to try to map basic touch gestures onto 100s of keyboard and mousing shortcuts.
"And whether or not I do have to buy them, at least with a tablet with a FULL OS, it is possible to use them."
No, not really. How do I toggle between the grabber, magnifier, and pointer in Photoshop without a keyboard? In order to run close to a full version of Photoshop on a keyboard-less tablet requires the app to be redesigned -- less functional versions of an app actually achieve greater functionality, rather than trying to contort a desktop app into a keyboardless, touch app.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7aeb7f8b9ad96e260300Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:18:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb7aeb7f8b9ad96e260300
Run a desktop app (itunes), connect to iPad (connect to iPad), transfer (select docs to be synced and transfer) and then read (read) -- SARCASM (huh?)
read, commented, don't know what dumbass point you think you are making. I keep getting files on and off the iPad though.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb76817f8b9a7479bf0000Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:59:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb76817f8b9a7479bf0000
Really, Veronica, pick a point. You started by saying apps are completely irrelevant and useless and then you started making comments about Photoshop. Now you are trying to make an argument about cost using a FREE app (Netflix), or are you just bitching because in this case, the website is irrelevant?
The Twitter example is pathetic. Most Twitter users I know use paid desktop apps on their machines because they do add functionality. And, of course, the website is still available. Fail, troll, fail.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb763c7f8b9a4768850c00webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:58:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb763c7f8b9a4768850c00
r un a desktop app, connect to ipad/iphone and transfer and then read --- SARCASM
read before commenting.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb750c7f8b9acf72d90900Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:53:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb750c7f8b9acf72d90900
I am using one now, and I am sure you have not touched one, webcat. Again, as I expected, you keep moving the goalposts.
"Run a desktop app, connect to ipad/iphone and transfer and then read."
This is what I am doing. You want to arbitrarily rule out different methods just so you can get to a point where you are saying, "Make this app that I know does not exist on the iPad work on the iPad," despite the fact that I am doing exactly what you want to accomplish, just as easily.
Learn to troll better please.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb730a7f8b9a0b69d40400Ted T.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:44:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb730a7f8b9a0b69d40400
To everyone who thinks the HP Slate will be more capable than the iPad I've got two words:
Battery life.
The NY Times got an iPad to run 12 hours & 23 minutes on a single charge running no-stop video, with the WiFi on. The HP is advertising 5 hours but real world is likely to be 3 hours. Which makes it *useless* as a tablet. And that's before you start hooking up goodies to its USB & HDMI and whatnot ports that everybody is so proud of.
What you have here is a classic example of comparing a real product to a spec sheet.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb72ff7f8b9aeb753d0400Jack JacksonTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:44:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb72ff7f8b9aeb753d0400
This is a disasterous FAIL by hp.
Just seeing this little graphic comparison proves that they TOTALLY miss the whole niche that apple has tapped into. They are comparing the specs side-by-side. The whole selling point for the iPad is that it just WORKS and the target market just wants to turn the dang thing on and zip around the internet and some apps. Someone who buys ipad doesn't care or want to know that it uses 1gb of DDR 2 sdram and 1.6 ghz atom processor. it either works or it doesn't.
also loading WINDOWS on there is a massive FAIL... just inviting blue screen of death, viruses, and added complications.
FAIL FAIL FAILhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb727a7f8b9a4c69970100VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:42:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb727a7f8b9a4c69970100
Oh...that's right. I need a Netflix app on an iPad because I can't visit the site directly to watch movies. And I think I saw someone actually purchase a Twitter app because he was too stupid to realize that going to the website is free.
The reason buying applications on a computer is important is because they add functionality, they don't duplicate or mimic a website. When is the last time you bought an application for Twitter or Facebook on your MAC or PC? I do understand that there are some apps that add functionality, but not many, and most are simply going around the limitations of the device itself.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb705f7f8b9a0969840100webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:33:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb705f7f8b9a0969840100
drag drop fines into ipad, have you even touched the ipad .
to move iwork documents from mac to ipad needs import export. Try to use one and come back and comment.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb70077f8b9a576dc50300RattyUKTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:31:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb70077f8b9a576dc50300
yeah, right.
Over 30% of the market for tablet PCs. in one day.
That looks like toast to me.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6fe67f8b9a2d6fdf0900VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:31:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6fe67f8b9a2d6fdf0900
Ok, because you can't read plain English, you know, the part where I said I wasn't particularly talking about those 2 applications. PdaNet, is not just an app. It's an app on the Android platform that allows me to tether. But, in order for me to be able to actually use it, I have to BUY and INSTALL software on my laptop or TABLET device. So, learn to read, until then, STFU.
BTW, Photoshop and CAD on the iPad could never mimic the real deal. Just not going to happen. And whether or not I do have to buy them, at least with a tablet with a FULL OS, it is possible to use them. You're SOL with the iPad.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6d7d7f8b9a7b6bb40900Lucky JimTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:21:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6d7d7f8b9a7b6bb40900
iPad is toast.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6a3f7f8b9a4768f90000BenTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:07:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb6a3f7f8b9a4768f90000
As a web application designer, my thoughts are that until browsers are fairly standardized for how they handle standards-compliant code, a native "desktop/tablettop" application will be superior.
Rich Internet Apps (RIAs) are far better than they were even two years ago on average, but there is a long, long way to go.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb69c47f8b9a0e685f0100steverTue, 06 Apr 2010 13:05:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb69c47f8b9a0e685f0100
I do development and really, really want to use the iPad in our customer interactions.
But, can't do flash or java applets in the browser. This kills some enterprise apps we're using. Flash isn't used just for videos, it's used for displaying inactive charts and graphs (Business Objects). Java applets for Oracle Forms & Reports and many medicine/ healthcare apps.
No real good way to move files to/fro between server and iPad. I want a filesystem there that applications can feed off of. For instance so that I can read PDFs w/o having an iPad PDF reader app include file xfer abilities. I know how to xfer files between a laptop and server.
Fix those few things and the iPad'll take off. We'd order 40 right away.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb694f7f8b9abd67ae0300Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:03:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb694f7f8b9abd67ae0300
Which it is, on the iPad, soon to be on the iPhone, for apps that have built -in support for a filetype.
Seriously, go off and do some research, and come back a better troll.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb68497f8b9aea67cc0100webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb68497f8b9aea67cc0100
I use goodReader . Drag drop pdf into the ipad/iphone I think not.
Run a desktop app, connect to ipad/iphone and transfer and then read. This is as flexible as copying from network drive into tablet and view using acrobat or foxit reader how ?? can you explain that.
same process for every file type other than music and videos.
What it should be a option i itunes to drag drop files and sync with iphone/ipad and read.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb67697f8b9a4867680500RTWTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:55:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb67697f8b9a4867680500
"Oddly, HP doesn't think the iPhone OS is a strong point for Apple. Big mistake. That's what makes the iPad zip."
Are you serious? iPhone OS, a positive, zip? Maybe you can buy a clue through iTunes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb65957f8b9a8e6b640500Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:47:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb65957f8b9a8e6b640500
"Maybe not you're employee" = "Maybe not you're employeR"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb65427f8b9aa9673c0000acerbicTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:45:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb65427f8b9aa9673c0000
You can handle pdfs with any of the 150000 magical and revolutionary fart sound apps. They are so revolutionary that the fart sounds can make anything you desire happen magically.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb64257f8b9afc6b790100Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:41:07 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb64257f8b9afc6b790100
...which has absolutely NOTHING to do with installing the same apps you already have for free. An employer can buy iPad apps too, you know? Maybe not you're employee or the apps you need, but I wouldn't go around saying that I can install apps I have on other devices for free because someone else paid for them twice.
And I'm thoroughly confused how a tethering app has anything to do with what you've said. First you said apps are completely irrelevant and you'd jsut use the free web, then you said you could reinstall Photoshop on a tablet for free (not exactly the free web), and now you are talking about some app you haven't mentioned before.
Boy, the trolls are coming with weak sauce today.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5f597f8b9a196b960200VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:20:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5f597f8b9a196b960200
Unless you are an engineer and your company distributes it for free. I wasn't talking exclusively about those particular applications, btw. I meant more like PdaNet for Android, that's always a useful tool on the go.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5d5e7f8b9a5a6a4a0600JohnTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:12:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5d5e7f8b9a5a6a4a0600
Maybe it'll help you with that HTML coding, too.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5cf87f8b9a6d66510000JohnTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:10:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5cf87f8b9a6d66510000
GoodReader for iPad, currently the #2 app in the App Store. Allows you to transfer PDFs, folders, documents, etc. to iPad.
You can transfer by connecting to your computer via the iPad cable, through WiFi, through email (where you save it to the app), through the Internet when you download documents, or through servers like box.net, Google Docs, etc.
Sorry, the bluster between you two was too much to handle. GoodReader ftw.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5cd77f8b9a61653c0800KenCTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:09:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5cd77f8b9a61653c0800
There are lots of problems with the HP slate, but the biggest is that it has a 2-cell 30watt hour battery.
That's 2/3rd the size of a small netbook battery and it's running an Atom chip with Windows7. Based upon those specs, which are almost identical to a typical netbook, but a smaller battery, there is NO WAY that it will get anywhere near 5 hours of battery life. If it gets 3 hours, it will be lucky.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5be67f8b9a4466d60000Dan AckermanTue, 06 Apr 2010 12:05:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb5be67f8b9a4466d60000
A quick bit of context from someone who reviews laptops and tablets for a living.
The HP Slate's biggest problem is its Intel Z530 CPU. I've reviewed many laptops with this slower version of the Intel Atom (most Netbooks now use the N450, or previously, the N270), and these Z-series CPUs make you want to literally throw the device out of the nearest window.
It's bad enough on a regular Netbook, but try adding touch and I can see this not having a great user experience.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb57817f8b9a486a380100webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:47:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb57817f8b9a486a380100
vaporware will be release in june.
Specifications are listed on this article in the top in color.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb576a7f8b9a6565960100hylokaTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:46:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb576a7f8b9a6565960100
I plan on ordering 2 HP slates. One for me and one for my 8 year old.
For me, I see this as a true laptop replacement for when I travel on business or on vacation. It will be 1/2 as heavy as my current work laptop (Lenovo X200 which is about 3 lbs) and I can run all the applications I run on a real computer, including ones like Onenote.
For my son, I want him to have a real computer, not just a toy for consuming media. I don't want one company dictating which software I can install for him.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb54ed7f8b9a3c62c60100RodneyTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb54ed7f8b9a3c62c60100
The slate sound wonderful, and looks wonderful and and and... But the fact is that It's vaporware... Every advertisement for Slate has been animated markups and drawings. There is no physical device in existence, yet. Basically they just said 'ok, what do people complain of about iPad, and just stick it in, make a flash video of it, and see what people think, before we actually commit the funds to do so."
the fact it's running windows 7 tells you that HP does not get the meaning and potential of the new platform. I'm not saying to not use an MS OS, only that it should be an MS OS built from the ground up for such devices. Otherwise, it will fail as other MS tablet devices has failed running Windows software.
if want to focus on vaporware, I would take a closer look at Microsoft's table in development, which by the way does NOT run Windows 7, but a new MS OS they designed from the ground up for their tablet. its still in vaporware status, as no one has seen a physical device, but have seen the flash demos, but it is one they have been working on for a while at least, and will eventually surface.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb53927f8b9a81638c0a00Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:30:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb53927f8b9a81638c0a00
Photoshop , and as far as I KNOW, every major CAD software cannot be installed on another machine without purchasing it again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb52207f8b9a0268a40a00VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:24:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb52207f8b9a0268a40a00
The difference is, this full operating system toting tablet can actually replace laptops and desktops. The iPad, in all its glory, can never replace anything. I look forward to the tablet revolution, though. It would be nice to be able to install the applications I bought for my laptop for use on my tablet without having to pay for it again or getting a half-assed version of it. I like the idea of accessing Google Docs on the go AND being able to edit my files. I need to be able to use CAD and Photoshop and I believe it will be easier on a full operating system tablet than a mobile phone OS tablet. I'm not buying until there is more RAM in these things, though.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb51f47f8b9a8e68440800Jeremy WaTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:23:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb51f47f8b9a8e68440800
Channel stuffing?
You obviously do not understand the term or the company. It is meant to indicate a seller is putting more devices into the channel than are expected to be sold - as "window dressing" to increase sales e.g., near the end of a quarter.
Apple has never done this and been criticized many times for it extremely conservative accounting. If anything, Apple has been too conservative in providing its sales expectations. Apple never channel stuffs.
We can await an HP "pad" but I am aware of no one who thinks it will sell as many as Apple did. BTW: the technique of announcing availability and soliciting online sales is available to HP also. I wonder why it has not used it. Could it be that HP would not get the same expected sales as Apple.
The market will decide, contrary to your channel stuffing nonsense.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4ffc7f8b9a685b390500Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:15:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4ffc7f8b9a685b390500
Why would applications be important to a computer? Hmmm, I don't know, you stumped me on that one.
As for "rather pay for an app than visit a website," that's pretty loaded, isn't it? How 'bout downloading a free app? How 'bout going to the website? How 'bout having all 3 options?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4df17f8b9afc631b0200Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:06:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4df17f8b9afc631b0200
I have. Three times. Instead of hitting F5, visit a website called Google.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4ce87f8b9a8e68340200VeronicaTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:02:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4ce87f8b9a8e68340200
Why do people believe that apps are an important feature on a large tablet? So, you'd rather pay for an app than visit a website? How stupid, the internet is free to use.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4c927f8b9a6f63c90300webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 11:00:34 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4c927f8b9a6f63c90300
@Tim F.
Again name one app and explain how to move my pdf to ipad/iphone .http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4b1c7f8b9afb63040000FredZTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:54:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb4b1c7f8b9afb63040000
How many did Apple sell? They included the stuffing the distribution channels with the 300K plus pre-orders. That is number is a joke.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb499b7f8b9ab0598c0800Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:47:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb499b7f8b9ab0598c0800
NONE of the options I am suggesting use ftp.
If your intention is to turn this into a back and forth based on, find me an exact duplicate of an app that doesn't exist on the iPhone that does exist on the iPhone, by constantly changing the criteria as you slowly learn about something you haven't even attempted to learn about by asking for new features with each clarification, it is worthless talking to you.
You started with: let me read pdfs, you changed it to transferring pdfs, you've now changed it to free and matching every feature of some app I've never heard of.
85% of the 600 pdf readers are free.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb48c07f8b9a7b67300900WhatThe?Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:44:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb48c07f8b9a7b67300900
"We don't see any compelling reason to pay $50 extra dollars for this thing."
Right, who would want a Windows 7 tablet for only $50 more. It's not like you can run full Firefox with flash on it or anything.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb46c27f8b9a8d67c30300webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:35:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb46c27f8b9a8d67c30300
@Tim F.
Again missing the point, 600 options , name one which is free and does not use a ftp interface.
Cdisplay is free and there i no comic reader in iphone/ipad which ic even close and free.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb46387f8b9ae0562b0900Jeremy WaTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:33:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb46387f8b9ae0562b0900
Of course, the market will decide...
How many hundreds of thousands will HP sell on its first day?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb461e7f8b9a1167150900Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:33:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb461e7f8b9a1167150900
"I am a avid comics reader and have a number of pdf's of comics, can you tell me how I would read my comics I bought in ipad..."
You did not clearly state that you could read on the iPad/iPhone. Your convoluted statement could be properly contextualized with your second statement, but it's perfectly valid to interpret your first statement as saying you can't read it.
And, again, there are about 15 options for you: associating it with an app and syncing through iTunes, email, numerous apps like DropBox, Here, File File, cloud based storage, etc....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb44617f8b9a3c67fb0100kuba11Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:25:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb44617f8b9a3c67fb0100
@ Lucky Jim: Sorry the I did the bold tag. I did not know it would carry over to other posts.
Interesting, maybe I could add some color too ;-)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb44277f8b9acf62460000Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:24:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb44277f8b9acf62460000
Yes, the ecosystem with 100,000+ apps with only 2 or 3 made by Apple; yes, that one.
You have about 600 options for reading pdfs. (You may "like" the iPhone but your fanaticism about closed systems has clearly precluded you from taking the 6 seconds it would take to learn anything about it.) There are about 4 comic readers for cbr and other formats. Comic Zeal is the most popular.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb43127f8b9a4457b40000Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:20:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb43127f8b9a4457b40000
Yes, and no, it isn't actually. Which is why HP is slathering TouchSmart on top of it. Which, by the way, I've used HP TouchSmart all-in-ones, adn they are lousy too.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb40fc7f8b9a7161650600epsTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:11:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb40fc7f8b9a7161650600
Have you used Windows 7 on a touch screen? I haven't, but I do have a Vista tablet, and it's actually a pretty good experience.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3ff87f8b9aaa501e0b00Lucky JimTue, 06 Apr 2010 10:06:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3ff87f8b9aaa501e0b00
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I am just commenting to close the bold tag that someone opened and forgot to close.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3db37f8b9a7261b40200FredZTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:57:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3db37f8b9a7261b40200
Jay, you really are a f*cked in the head AppleHead. I would buy this over the iPad any day. Hello, this is a personally computer with keyboard, docking station, remote desktop, I can read and edit any Office doc, use any email client I want. This is something I can get some work done with, not just read and play.
The iPad is an over sized iPod this is a personal computer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3c207f8b9a6753d30000webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:50:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3c207f8b9a6753d30000
@Martin
What would you install hmmmm , good question ?
any game from popcap at sale prices from anywhere (bejewelled, plants vs zombies)
how about any game from any company at whereever they are cheapest ??
buy movies from wherever , does that sound good.
books from amazon or barnes and nobles or how about anywhere ??
how about installing cdisplay and read all the comics you want.
say play real media, mkv or any format video.
office, photoshop optional ( you can also use open office)
opera, firefox, even safari if you want to.
Oh will also run itunes if you are hell bent on buying from apple , how is that for flexibility.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3bc47f8b9a67536d0000kuba11Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:48:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3bc47f8b9a67536d0000
Actually you should probably compare it to the
3G one $729 - 549 = <B>$180 cheaper<B>
and with and open OS, Flash, 2 Cameras...
Not quite dead. I cannot wait for it's arrival..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3a627f8b9a1e600c0800Martin Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:42:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3a627f8b9a1e600c0800
Ok, i can install what ever I want on this thing. but what exactly?
Photoshop?
WoW?
MS Office?
What would I want with these dinosaurs on a tablet? Oh, I would be able to play Flash-Games on it. But that´s all.
Guys, the App-Store is an USP x100. How useful is the best machine without content? How useful is a Porsche without gas?
A tablet with an App-store equivalent would be ok but there is nothing on the horizon except maybe an Android. Perhaps.
But this is only my opinionhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3a307f8b9a6e60bc0500webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:42:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb3a307f8b9a6e60bc0500
@dennis
Read my comment closely , I did not ask how to read it, I clearly stated iphone lets you read, I asked how to load it into the iphone ipad.
Stop commenting if you dont understand the question.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb397e7f8b9a2d612f0000dennisTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:39:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb397e7f8b9a2d612f0000
uh, you read it with their PDF reader.
you have no idea what the heck you are talking about.
I love how all closing statements quantify stupid comments. "I love the iPhone." "I love Apple." "I love Apple's Stuff."
But...
Get your slate. No one really cares. You say bananas, I say, "Apple."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb38ba7f8b9a0f61560000dennisTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:35:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb38ba7f8b9a0f61560000
Sounds like GM adding OnStar just to beat Toyota.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb378e7f8b9afc64fb0300tradeking13Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:30:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb378e7f8b9afc64fb0300
You're comparing the price of a 16GB iPad to a 32GB HP Slate. The 32GB iPad is $599 vs. the 32GB HP Slate at $549.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb376a7f8b9a7c65140000webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:30:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb376a7f8b9a7c65140000
@Tim F
What Eco system ? buying from apple only eco system.
an open windows 7 tablet gives the option to buy from anyone. Install any codec I want and play any media I want.
Touch OS , there is nothing like that, It is a Touch Interface.
Let me ask you a simple question. I am a avid comics reader and have a number of pdf's of comics, can you tell me how I would read my comics I bought in ipad, without jumping through hoops or buying an application to move files, Even though Ipad/iphone already have pdf functionality built in.
I am not a microsoft fanboy either, I own a 2 iphones and 2 macs (also windows desktops and laptops)
I like the iphone , but it is a closed system, designed to lock you in ( same as microsoft drm , play for sure etc)
A Tablet with full windows 7 opens up a whole new world.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb36bb7f8b9a5865220100JesusTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:27:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb36bb7f8b9a5865220100
Whoa whoa <i>WHOA</i>...
The Silicon Apple Advertiser thinks a product that competes with an Apple product can't compete?
Who saw THAT coming?!?!? You know, besides everyone.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb35b97f8b9a1460f40300Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:23:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb35b97f8b9a1460f40300
toush = touchhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb35967f8b9a1b60f90200Tim F.Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:22:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb35967f8b9a1b60f90200
An actual toush OS and touch application ecosystem rather than a desktop OS with some touch gestures (that are wholey inadequate requiring HP to build there own, usually craptastic, software on top of it for touch capability) and an app ecosystem that is not tailored for the device or the input system.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb33ea7f8b9a2964480600webcatTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:15:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb33ea7f8b9a2964480600
@Jay
two cameras, full windows 7 , flash support, multi tasking, sd expansion slot, no lock in into app store, install whatever you want.
if that is not enough compelling reasons, can you tell me what would be.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb32627f8b9ad45fe90100Lucky JimTue, 06 Apr 2010 09:08:50 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4bbb32627f8b9ad45fe90100
A more capable pad, but still weird to use. That's magical. Yawn.