We are excited to present an interview of two comrades from Black Rose Anarchist Federation, Enrique Guerrero-López and Adam Weaver, discussing with It’s Going Down podcast the analysis and strategy document “Below and Beyond Trump, Power and Counter Power.” Topics discussed are the current political moment of Trumpism, social movements and building power from below and the need to push back against the rise of electoralism on the left. As well we discus an action in Los Angeles where a Rapid Response Network formed by the Koreatown Popular Assembly pushed ICE out of their neighborhood.