Would it be fair to say the Aussies didn't bowl the same as last year when they had so much success? Lots of balls short of a length when it was balls that were pitched up that were doing the business last year. Loss of McDermott a bigger factor than some realised maybe?

I don't think they bowled badly yesterday, maybe not as well as last year but then SA are a much better team than India were last year. And I still don't know why professional cricketers need someone to tell them not to bowl ****. The average club cricketer can work that out.

Am off to the game myself today. Don't know if we'll get much play...would like to see Kallis and Amla in action.

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Went to the game yesterday. At the risk of being called a nark and reading too much into one day's play, I really think and said so at the time, that the series against India last Summer really put us in a fool's paradise and wasn't an accurate reflection of things. India were just totally disinterested, and as demonstrated yesterday we still have a long way to go (bearing in mind that the bowling is meant to be our strength).

Reckon that wouldn't be out if they hit anyway, as you have to be attempting a run to get run out. If the batsmen obviously thinks he's out, the umpire wouldn't give him out run out.

I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run.

Bowling teams shouldn't lose a review when the umpire says not out initially, then a review is sought, and it's found that a no ball was bowled. It is the umpire's error that the no ball was overlooked, so the bowling team shouldn't lose a review

I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run.

I'm talking about situations when the ball goes up in the air, not edges to slips. If he starts running and the umpire is going to review no balls it would be a terrible decision to not give the batsman out. In the Kallis situation he was certainly attempting a run, proof of this is that he starting jogging and was credited with a run.

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I still think once the ball is caught it will become a dead ball. Once the batsmen sees the fielder catch it, he'll stop trying to make his ground.

Originally Posted by howardj

Not related to yesterday's incident, but just generally speaking...

Bowling teams shouldn't lose a review when the umpire says not out initially, then a review is sought, and it's found that a no ball was bowled. It is the umpire's error that the no ball was overlooked, so the bowling team shouldn't lose a review

As I say, different to what happened yesterday

I don't think the fielding side do lose a review actually. I seem to remember it happening recently, and the fielding side didn't lose their review.

Ahh, I didn't realise Kallis got a run for it and was off strike. I'm inclined to agree with you because of that.

But, unlike in football, their isn't a "whistle" when you're caught at midd off. You just assume you're out unless told otherwise. It might be something they could allow in the future, but they'd have to drill it in to the batsmen to continue incase they're not out. Until then, I think it would only cause problems.

also I brought some cricket australia sports ears things with me I paid some ludicrous price for a couple of years ago, that are supposed to tune into channel 9 & the abc comms, don't work, they must have changed the channel. ****s.