I think America is growing up a bit. People are beginning to accept, for example, that homosexuality is physiologically determined, that recreational drug use is more a health issue vs. criminal matter, etc. We're finally catching up to the Europeans in terms of social maturity.

I think America is growing up a bit. People are beginning to accept, for example, that homosexuality is physiologically determined, that recreational drug use is more a health issue vs. criminal matter, etc. We're finally catching up to the Europeans in terms of social maturity.

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I agree we're growing up....but I wouldn't want to use Europe as our benchmark. I don't see them as being any more mature culturally than we are Tune.

Our society is by far the most complex society on this earth. So any comparison to any other country is irrelevant in my opinion.

But the purpose of this thread is to discuss moving toward a more secular society vs. a religious based society.

For example, when I was a child, almost everyone went to church services. Christmas was more religion-based than it is now....just 2 examples.

I think America is growing up a bit. People are beginning to accept, for example, that homosexuality is physiologically determined, that recreational drug use is more a health issue vs. criminal matter, etc. We're finally catching up to the Europeans in terms of social maturity.

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"Growing up"......lol. I just love the arrogance and the ignorance of that statement.

I agree we're growing up....but I wouldn't want to use Europe as our benchmark. I don't see them as being any more mature culturally than we are Tune.

Our society is by far the most complex society on this earth. So any comparison to any other country is irrelevant in my opinion.

But the purpose of this thread is to discuss moving toward a more secular society vs. a religious based society.

For example, when I was a child, almost everyone went to church services. Christmas was more religion-based than it is now....just 2 examples.

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Europe is a model for complete failure........a pyramid scheme of the worst sort. near zero population growth is requiring those countries to lose their cultural identity through needed immigration to imitate any kind of economic growth

A homosexual inclination is a disorder. I believe if someone has this disorder that it is not a choice. That being said, the inclination can be psychological in nature or physiological in nature. I believe it is a psychological disorder.
That being said, I am open to what science tells us...actual science.

So again, I'll ask.....what scientific evidence do we have that demonstrates that homosexual inclinations are strictly physiological?

A homosexual inclination is a disorder. I believe if someone has this disorder that it is not a choice. That being said, the inclination can be psychological in nature or physiological in nature. I believe it is a psychological disorder.
That being said, I am open to what science tells us...actual science.

So again, I'll ask.....what scientific evidence do we have that demonstrates that homosexual inclinations are strictly physiological?

It should be as far as I'm concerned. Agaian, I'll ask....do we have conclusive scientific evidence to prove that homosexual inclinations are strictly physiological in nature or is this just secular/progressive "faith"...lol

In mourning,
Let us pray,
Oh lord bring us back, bring us back to the days of America The Beautiful, don't let these progressive crazy bastards with their sex obsessions, their filthy racist music and all the rest of their rotten socialist communist shlt take our country over, I beseech thee oh Lord Jesus God please save us.
Amen

It should be as far as I'm concerned. Agaian, I'll ask....do we have conclusive scientific evidence to prove that homosexual inclinations are strictly physiological in nature or is this just secular/progressive "faith"...lol

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Here you go, smart guy. But somehow I'm not confident that you're the type who values scientific information.

Quoting: Some scientists say the new findings are part of an increasingly convincing body of evidence that suggests sexual orientation results from fundamental developmental differences that are probably caused by hormonal exposures in the womb.

I think America is growing up a bit. People are beginning to accept, for example, that homosexuality is physiologically determined, that recreational drug use is more a health issue vs. criminal matter, etc. We're finally catching up to the Europeans in terms of social maturity.

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This, finally. After 250+ years of puritanical, guilt-ridden, "thou shalt NOT (insert what you like)!" societal sado-masochism. I've had quite enough of others' self-righteous moral usurping of my fundamental right to live in peace, and an equal shot at EVERYTHING that society has to offer. That's why I don't vote republican.

My personal bigotries ought not to infringe on your personal liberties any more than yours on mine.

In mourning,
Let us pray,
Oh lord bring us back, bring us back to the days of America The Beautiful, don't let these progressive crazy bastards with their sex obsessions, their filthy racist music and all the rest of their rotten socialist communist shlt take our country over, I beseech thee oh Lord Jesus God please save us.
Amen

Quoting: Some scientists say the new findings are part of an increasingly convincing body of evidence that suggests sexual orientation results from fundamental developmental differences that are probably caused by hormonal exposures in the womb.

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Obviously you didn't read the whole article, "genius". From your own article:

"But such research is fraught with uncertainty, and it could not rule out that the findings were the result of changes that occurred in response to experiences and behaviors, rather than being inborn".

"It takes a snapshot of a group of people at a particular age," said Anne Fausto-Sterling, a professor of biology and gender studies at Brown University. "Even if there are reliable brain differences, it doesn't tell you anything about how those brain differences came into being."

"But such research is fraught with uncertainty, and it could not rule out that the findings were the result of changes that occurred in response to experiences and behaviors, rather than being inborn".

"It takes a snapshot of a group of people at a particular age," said Anne Fausto-Sterling, a professor of biology and gender studies at Brown University. "Even if there are reliable brain differences, it doesn't tell you anything about how those brain differences came into being."