It's ridiculous that SCVs can take more hits than drones or probes, terrans can literally just rush with SCVs

Except SCVs build at a slower rate than both Probes and Drones, and they can't heal without using minerals, there is nothing ridiculous about them. (Okay in the beta when SCVs had 15 more health than they do now they WERE ridiculous)

Is there anything that can beat mass carrier besides lv3 mass marine? I win using this Cheese a lot (and lose to it if I'm not doing it myself)

And I know a conventional timing destroys this build but in a straight up macro vs macro, what can beat 3-3-3 carriers with graviton catapult?

Battlecrusiers might work due to their massive amount of armor.
6 armor on the BC vs 8 dmg x 2 per interceptor. So each interceptor does 4 dmg every 3 seconds. So 138 attacks to kill a battlecruiser. 51.25 seconds to kill a battlecruiser.

These are 1v1 situation. In larger engagement you would have to deal with yamato cannon which takes 3 seconds to charge and outranges carriers.

How many are we talking for mass carrier? Like normal play quantities or 4v4 and you aren't attacked all game quantities?

If a battlecruiser is yamato'ing a carrier can only get off a single volley before getting hit by it. 18 carriers will one-volley a battlecruiser. But against 18 BCs you will get yamote'd enough to be at a massive disadvantage if you don't micro perfect.

BCs will win against carriers in pure armies of just capital ships. With a mother ship it might be different.

Bronze league is the biggest bunch of epic failures ever..
I drone rushed a guy (I'm bronze, I've got nothing to lose lol).. I failed... 6 drones dead.. I had 1.. it took me like 6 minutes just to get back to my starting point of 6 drones 50 minerals.

Bronze league is the biggest bunch of epic failures ever..
I drone rushed a guy (I'm bronze, I've got nothing to lose lol).. I failed... 6 drones dead.. I had 1.. it took me like 6 minutes just to get back to my starting point of 6 drones 50 minerals.

20 minutes later I won.

Wouldn't he also be at a major disadvantage? Unless he actually had all of his drones after the engagement, and even if all of his drones survived, I'm sure he pissed his pants and couldn't concentrate that well.

Just finished playing against some gold protoss who had one pylon in his main not walling off so I thought he was cheesing, turns out he was walling off with 15 cannons. He was like "now try and attack ^_^" so I did, by putting my lings in overlords and dropping them in his base. Turns out he was turtling and going void ray so I built a bunch of hydralisks and dumped them in his base too, I didn't want to attack his 15 cannons so I just destroyed his nexus and BMed him until he left, in total he built 1 gateway, a forge and a shitload of cannons, and 6 stargates, half of which were destroyed by the ling push, he was basically trying to turtle while he teched to air in a really shitty way. He says he's working on the build.

Wouldn't he also be at a major disadvantage? Unless he actually had all of his drones after the engagement, and even if all of his drones survived, I'm sure he pissed his pants and couldn't concentrate that well.

He had about 5 left when I had 1 (I got there when he had 8, I had 5 in the attack group).. So after my attack is was like 4 / 5 to 1 his way.. idk

My micro is shit

Also just got BM'd for 20 minutes by some l33t one baser...
He then QQ's because his Mass Void Ray was countered by Mass Muta and Spore Crawlers.......
lol

Played my first 1v1 in like 2 seasons and accidentally off-raced as Protoss.

Thought I was doing unusually well and was wondering what the deal was when I watched the replay and noticed this Zerg player spammed nothing but drones which I assumed would have put him at an economy at least equal to mine. Somehow he managed to select all his drones at his main and tell them to stop for nearly a minute before telling them to mine again.

Played my first 1v1 in like 2 seasons and accidentally off-raced as Protoss.

Thought I was doing unusually well and was wondering what the deal was when I watched the replay and noticed this Zerg player spammed nothing but drones which I assumed would have put him at an economy at least equal to mine. Somehow he managed to select all his drones at his main and tell them to stop for nearly a minute before telling them to mine again.

Can anyone give me a critique on this game? I feel like I played very shitty and really shouldn't have won that. I didn't even think to build immortals.

What the hell was that? ...The fuck was blue even doing? Floating 12k mins, that motherfucker had more money than God and he did nothing with it... he just sent this pussy little army in and then left?!

One thing I noticed is that you didn't actually really do anything. You just sort of chilled until blue finally attacked you after like 20mins.
And yeah as you said you had the robo and totally forgot about immortals, that shit would have pooped on his roach army so hard.

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Last edited by RichardCQ; 23rd February 2012 at 01:26PM.
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What the hell was that? ...The fuck was blue even doing? Floating 12k mins, that motherfucker had more money than God and he did nothing with it... he just sent this pussy little army in and then left?!

One thing I noticed is that you didn't actually really do anything. You just sort of chilled until blue finally attacked you after like 20mins.
And yeah as you said you had the robo and totally forgot about immortals, that shit would have pooped on his roach army so hard.

Dude, I have absolutely no fucking clue what he was doing. My friend told me he was doing some sort of 3 base before hatch play and I kinda don't want to watch the replay again to find out if that's true. The reason why I was sitting back waiting for him is because I saw he had 3 bases and figured that he was a decent zerg player (because I'm retarded and don't scout) so I wanted to expand as much as possible, get the econ advantage, and then wait for the opportunity to counter attack because I would have had the defending advantage. You know, play the macro game until I was sure my army could shit on him and then transition into molesting his entire fucking base.

You could actually see where I was considering throwing up the GG until I glanced over to the right most expansions and figured I was in it for the long haul so I might as well try to expand. If I had lost that game and actually watched the replay I probably would have just died of an aneurysm.

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I feel that the only real saving grace of that game was my usage of my ramp to funnel in his roaches to die and just general late-game stalker usage (especially considering roaches fucking counter stalkers what drugs was I on man).

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Last edited by MuTAnT; 23rd February 2012 at 01:30PM.
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I feel that the only real saving grace of that game was my usage of my ramp to funnel in his roaches to die and just general late-game stalker usage (especially considering roaches fucking counter stalkers what drugs was I on man).

Yeah he got molested on that ramp, he never got to 3/3 either with his infinite resources.

Oh btw I really digged the sentry play, that was hot. I think that's what you were really going for most of the game.

23rd February 2012
Last edited by RichardCQ; 23rd February 2012 at 01:36PM.
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Yeah don't be afraid to play aggressively I guess, if he's expanding faster than you then don't wait for him to attack with a higher economy. At one stage you weren't harvest gas, at all.

Have to admit my last PvZ was probably just as miserable though.

Yeah he got molested on that ramp, he never got to 3/3 either with his infinite resources.

I was doing frequent hallucination flybys and saw he was sticking to 4 bases so I figured I'd try to 5-6 base him with my ridiculous gateway count. My problem with early aggression is that I tend to overcommit and that fucks me over pretty badly, which is why I've been sticking to the macro until counterattack sort of play. That probably is a bad habit and I should stop it.

I was doing frequent hallucination flybys and saw he was sticking to 4 bases so I figured I'd try to 5-6 base him with my ridiculous gateway count. My problem with early aggression is that I tend to overcommit and that fucks me over pretty badly, which is why I've been sticking to the macro until counterattack sort of play. That probably is a bad habit and I should stop it.

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Sentries are my absolute favorite unit in the entire game forever and ever and ever. I love how sentries just take complete control of the battle particularly with splitting forces.