If conservatives want to keep the House and win the Senate, we need to fire John Boehner as speaker of the House. We only need 16 House votes to do it.

As most conservatives know, Boehner and the House GOP Steering Committee decided to purge four conservative House members from their committee. Congressmen Justin Amash and Tim Huelskamp were removed from the House Budget Committee, and Congressmen David Schweikert and Walter Jones were cut from the Financial Services Committee.

Amash, Huelskamp, and Schweikert were targeted because they were too fiscally conservativeall three have voted against Boehners debt ceiling hikes. Amash and Huelskamp were the only two GOP votes against House Budget Chairman Paul Ryans budget.

Amash explained that vote at yesterdays Bloggers Briefing at the Heritage Foundation, Its unacceptable to have unbalanced budgets until 2040.

For anyone outside of DC, this statement seems obvious. Only in Washington is balancing the budget radical.

Many conservatives voted for the Ryan budget because they didnt want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I understand that, but we shouldnt criticize those who actually understand the depth of our debt problem and plan to propose real answers.

If Speaker Boehner wants to purge independent, bold conservativesI think its time he gets fired as Speaker. Not only for the purge. He has failed to effectively win negotiations with President Obama and appointed moderate committee chairs. To the public, Boehner may appear radical but in reality he proposes milquetoast policies, like the tax-hikes he proposed this week.

While the caucus has already voted in support of John Boehner as speaker of the 113th Congress, the final floor vote doesnt happen until early January.

Everyone thinks its a fairytale, but the Conservative Movement is capable of firing Boehner with just 16 votes.

The House rules demand that a Speaker receive a majority218 votesto be elected speaker. If no nominee for speaker receives 218, the House remains speakerlessas it did during parts of the Civil War.

If 16 House Republicans were to abstain from voting for Speaker, Boehner would only receive 217 votes.

Once we depose Boehner and cause a firestorm, the Republican caucus will get the memo: Pick someone else! These 16 Republicans only need to hold out until the caucus chooses a new leader.

For Speaker, I suggest members who are anti-establishment, but still have broad support. Congressmen Jim Jordan of Ohio would be my pick. He just finished leading the Republican Study Committee and proposed the best budget weve seen come out of Congress.

Republicans and conservatives deserve a more articulate, more conservative leader. In fact, we need one if we want to keep the House majority and take the Senate. Boehner has been Obamas punching bag and has lost every public battle with the President. Now, hes waging an internal war on conservatives.

Remember, we lost seats in the House under his leadership. He has failed as spokesman for the movement. Boehner has been in Congress for 22 years, and he looks like and embodies the typical DC politician. Cant we find someone fresher to lead the party forward?

What possible good is a speaker who has to be constantly beat over the head to get to do the right thing? I personally believe this man is functionally stupid! Bronco Bama probably laughs his ass off at the ineptitude of this useful idiot.

Boner has no leadership skills other than the Soviet politburo tactics to give himself five votes on the Steering Committee.

Get this embarrassment out of there and assign him something useful he can do like tend the cloakroom.

Here’s another thought........All those who Bohner “demoted”, should get together and make it known to Bohner that they are going to change to the DEMOCRATE’s side. Let’s see, if the House lost those votes, guess the Repubs side would look a little smaller and they would loose control of the House. Play the Democrats game AGAINST Bohner. Bet he would change his tune pretty fast then.

According to today’s NYT, Boehner has never been more popular. Republicans who cave to the Democrats are always popular with the Leftist media. It’s only principled conservatives who are flailed within an inch of their lives by this corrupt media machine.

It's not a matter of backbone so much as it is finding 16 that aren't closeted homosexuals, philanderers, tax cheats or garden variety perverts. It's a rare event when the establishment lets someone into elected office who isn't completely compromised with enough documented proof to blackmail them into compliance. Think I'm kidding? Just take a look at every scandal that comes to light and I can almost guaranty that they did something counter to the establishment's wishes a few days or weeks earlier. Boner isn't going anywhere, folks.

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posted on 12/06/2012 4:38:36 AM PST
by Orangedog
(An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)

Agree but since the house republicans would just “hire” another one just like him, not sure what we would accomplish. It is more important the next election that we replace the libs/rinos with fewer sheep.

Just because some guy named Ned says that 218 votes are needed to elect a Speaker, and thus that 16 Republicans voting present can keep Boehner from the Speakership, does not make it so. The rules of the House have stated since at least 1913 (the earliest Speaker election analyzed by the Congressional Research Service in its 2011 study) that the election of Speaker requires a majority not of members, but of votes cast *for a person*. Thus, vacancies, abstentions, *and people voting Present* will not be included in the denominator. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30857.pdf

And this isnt some arcane theory by the CRS; it was exactly what occurred as recently as 1997. That was the year of the attempted coup against Newt Gingrich, which fell apart, but around 8-10 Republicans voted Present in the Speaker election (plus 2 Republicans voted for RINO Jim Leach, 2 others voted for Republicans who had retired from Congress, and I assume that Newt abstained, as is customary for Speaker candidates). Due to all of those Present votes and abstentions, only 213 votes were required to elect a Speaker, and Newt was elected with 216 votes. Maybe Ned Ryun should do a little reading before shooting off his mouth next time.

The House of Representatives for the 113th Congress will convene with at most 434 members (Jesse Jackson, Jr.s seat will be vacant). If 16 Republicans vote Present, at most 418 votes will be cast for a person for Speaker, meaning that Boehner would need only 210 votes to be elected Speaker. But if 34 Republicans vote Present, then Pelosi or some other Democrat could be elected Speaker with the 201 Democrat votes. So voting Present for Speaker wont keep Boehner from being elected Speaker, unless so many Republicans do it that a Democrat gets elected Speaker.

The only way that 16 Republicans can prevent Boehner or a Democrat from becoming Speaker would be if they voted for actual persons, not vote Present. And that is not going to happen. All incoming Republican members had the chance to select the partys Speaker candidate, and they all voted for Boehner; maybe a handful will cast protest votes for Ron Paul or something (I betcha that Paultard Justin Amash of MI-03 does just that), but it wont come close to 16.

Bohner has a game he plays to keep House Republicans from turning against him that he plays each time.

Leading to the surrender he gets on TV and keeps saying what Republicans wont go along with, But in the end there is little that O cant get out of the R house. Thenn Bohner says “I tried my best. I was on your side. This was the best I could get.”

He doesn’t explain anything. Evidently, he doesn’t know how. The lack of “explaining” is the reason the Republicans are in this mess. They let the lies stand and then later, they try to defend their position. Can’t win being on the defensive all the time. And can’t win letting the left define who the Republicans are.

Weakness with this strategy: if the 16 (or less) lost GOP votes are replaced by Democrat votes, then Boehner will still prevail. After all, the RATs want Boehner to stay right where he is. Think Joe Straus in Austin, the corrupt GOP TX Speaker - he owes his job to Democrats.

Practically speaking, the four committee chairmen he fired can be seen as four votes against him. This leaves 12 other Republicans. Twelve out of 230 (others).

But if these 16 (or hopefully more) band together, there is going to be an impressive caucus fight, and one that needs to happen.

In 1972, at the Democrat convention, the radicals finally overtook and displaced the moderates from their party leadership. Since then, the Democrat party has been entirely radical.

Since the Republican leadership prevented any such revolt in the 2012 convention, to try to cling to power, this effort by 16 to depose Boehner may be the beginning of the end of the RINO stranglehold on the Republican party.

And the Republican party would truly be the conservative party. Essential if it is to save America.

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posted on 12/06/2012 6:12:41 AM PST
by yefragetuwrabrumuy
(Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)

I am all for firing Boehner, but we need to stop this myth of Walter Jones of NC being a conservative. He is not. He is worse than Boehner. Not sure why he is included in this list, but he’s absolutely Democrat lite.

No, love him or hate him, The Big Boner really isn't a weak “Speaker” — since he seems to control the House with an iron hand. But he most definitely is a weak “speaker.”

Moreover, at a time when the GOP desperately needs a bunch of articulate spokesmen, he's definitely the wrong man for the job.

Solution:

Start with the recognition that according to the Constitution, the Speaker doesn't need to be a member of the House. Doesn't even need to be an elected official.

Therefore, find the most persuasive, articulate and “least scary” conservative spokesman available, and make him Speaker. Marco Rubio would probably be my choice, but there are plenty of others, both inside and outside of politics.

Bonehead is not the Leader of the GOP. He has become the leader of the DC Party. The inside the beltway party of big government. Vote him out
of leadership or scandal his a$$ out of leadership. Either way, he must go.

Although I am reluctance to change leaders w/o thought, I believe Bhoner and the neocons must go. The real, patriotic, constitution abiding People must demand to be represented; in full. The runaway DC train must be sided or derailed. USA may crash either way, but not w/o our doing what we are called to do.

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