Officials see rise in militia groups across US

Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
There is nothing in that article that is a half-truth. You call it propaganda because you don't like what it says. Talk about embracing ignorance.

No, I call it propoganda because they mentioned racism and crazy people.
It didn't mention the reason behind activism, the reason for the anger in town hall meetings, the reasons for the frustrations against the people who
is destroying the economy.

What is it that you are having difficulty understanding?

--sarcasm--
Racists and crazy people with guns? No they don't exist at all.
--end sarcasm--

This is not propaganda.

"All it's lacking is a spark," McEntire said in the report.

It's reminiscent of what was seen in the 1990s — right-wing militias, people ideologically against paying taxes and so-called "sovereign
citizens" are popping up in large numbers, according to the report to be released Wednesday.

So it looks like mob rule is becoming the direction of the future.

Great... just what we need, a country full of misinformed people who believe in fairy tales acting like they are authoritative because they have
guns.

That is true.Racism doesn't have to be overt. I never said that racism took no part. I believe that it has far less rooted power than is generally
broadcast. I believe that ignorance resides with those who would let something as trivial as race cause them to take up arms.

And the ignorance of others is precisely the reason I think racism is far more rooted and a powerful force than we want to recognize.

Walk around, go shopping; what do you see? A lot of educated, thinking rational people? Not me!! I see a bunch of Snopes that would like nothing
more than to join a "crew" and cause some damage.

Let's see if I remember the Democrat's definition of a militia member.
I'm a white, heterosexual male.
I'm a veteran.
I don't agree with the current Administration's policies.
I own guns.
I shoot guns.
I'm licensed to carry a conceled weapon.
I'm a member of a veteran's organization (American Legion)
I'm a member of a religious organization (Moose)
I believe in the Constitution.

Damn! I am a militia member.
According to our current Government leadership (what a joke)
I am also non-patriotic, a gangster and a Nazi.

I look at it this way, Consider the source.

By the way, I'm not a racist or sexist. I would have voted for Condi Rice if she would have ran.

Its interesting that since 1980, the majority of terrorist incidents and plots in this country have been domestic in origin. Yet we immedietely regard
every warning from the government as part of some false flag operation?

Let me also state, for the record, that no false flag operation has ever been perpetrated against the American people. Much of this hulabaloo on false
flags stem from the revelation of Operation NORTHWOODS. Need I remind everyone that NORTHWOODS was never implemented? Clearly, this government that is
so evil does have a conscience.

[edit on 12-8-2009 by sweatmonicaIdo]

Doh I think You need to study up on Your history a little bit more .... The most recent one if You don't count 9/11 was the USS Liberty. Its kind of
funny the BBC did a complete show on it and at the end it screams false flag... How can this be our government would not do that would they?

Bart McEntire, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told SPLC researchers that this is the most growth
he's seen in more than a decade.

"All it's lacking is a spark," McEntire said in the report.

Oh, you're just itching for one of these constitutionalists to saw off their shotgun barrel 1/2" shorter than the federal limit. Only then would you
be able to show your 'authoritah' by massacring their entire family.

Maybe if you jackbooted Nazi bullyboy thugs stopped enforcing unconstitutional laws, there wouldn't be any problem.

I posted this in another thread as well. Obama (used loosely to include his administration) is very good at pitting Americans against Americans. He
has managed to negatively label a huge chunk of the American public and appealed to those not yet labeled to be on the lookout for said crazies.

This is, as you can see, a rather broad group of people. What better way to take the focus OFF of what Obama is doing.

For every mention of what the White House is doing, there are several more articles about Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, NK, etc. And for every thing the
White House does that some of us don't like, there are several more articles warning "good Americans" to watch out for those that "do not have the
interests of the US" in mind.

This article itself is providing the "spark" to get just this sort of thing going. With Americans fighting each other, nobody will be watching the
White House.

When the violence gets bad enough, martial law will go into effect and then NOBODY will be watching the White House.

Originally posted by lpowell0627
I posted this in another thread as well. Obama (used loosely to include his administration) is very good at pitting Americans against Americans. He
has managed to negatively label a huge chunk of the American public and appealed to those not yet labeled to be on the lookout for said crazies.

Divide and conquer.
What a shame.

What do you think a street organizer does? Obama was probably very good at that job.

He has some people that I know, who never voted, all set to kick his ass out of office in 2012. They are going to take it out on Congress in 2010 for
a warm-up.

There are racists out there. Certainly. Some will not even recognize this, but for some, they are afraid of a black president. Not because he is
black, but rather because it is different.

That said. I'm sick of the race card. While Obama was campaigning he was good at using it. But what really got to me was when Sotomayor was being
vetted, every news article didn't shy to mention the republic opposition to the first "Hispanic supreme court justice"

It angered me, I'm tired of people thinking we should put someone in power just because their race has never been there before!

But ultimately Obama's citizenship never mattered, if he got elected on a conspiracy, then im more than sure that same conspiracy could of faked a
birth certificate.

The only thing more abused in this country than race is the notion of the "race card."

I beg to differ. The notion of race card is only brought up after someone cries racism because we do not bow to Obama

Like it or not, there are people who are not pleased with a black man being president. Some people are overt in their displeasure, others have
it bubbling below the surface.

Yes, there are some. Just like their are some crazy people who hate white people as well.

Because a small segment of a population is retarded, does not mean that the whole population is retarded.

I think you'd have to be in complete denial to believe that John McCain, had he won the presidency, would have his citizenship questioned, the
number of presidential death threats skyrocket and supposedly "concerned citizens" suddenly come out and give the president all thirteen rings of
Hell.

You are right about the citizenship. He has proven his citizenship beyond a doubt.

I have McCain's long form birth certificate. Now where is Obama's?

As for the other points . . . you are not at all concerned with the directions this country is going?

Bush had death threats and "concerned citizens" as well. They are skyrocketing because people are sick of the same old crap in the white house.

Something, something, got these people to suddenly rise up and find their voices. I like to think the people simply got fed up with
things. But lets face it - we had a chance to be fed up many years ago.

And we were. The water was already simmering. They decided to leave the water on the fire, and now it is boiling.

America and American's are notoriously called the sleeping giant for a reason. It takes alot to make their blood boil, but when it does, there is
hell to pay.

There is a part of me that says they feel threatened by the man in office or that they feel he is easier to disrespect.

I can agree with the first part of the sentence. People do feel threatened because he is CONTINUING the dismantling of America when he promised
"hope and change."

Then you shoot yourself in the foot with the last part5 of the sentence.

McCain's citizenship was questioned. I believe there was an issue with his being born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was stationed there.
I still want to see Obama's birth certificate. I can do a better Photoshop job than what's been posted.

What this article really boils down to is, people are going to protect themselves from an out of control government so ammo and gun sales are
exploding. I myself never wanted to own a gun but I feel so threatened by the last government and this government i will protect myself at any means
necessary. The only thing that keeps me at peace is your sole will be judged by the actions you take on this earth.

Originally posted by jkm1864
Doh I think You need to study up on Your history a little bit more .... The most recent one if You don't count 9/11 was the USS Liberty. Its kind of
funny the BBC did a complete show on it and at the end it screams false flag... How can this be our government would not do that would they?

What did the BBC say about what happened? I do not recall the incident at all.

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