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Barrel of the Best wrote:I think the club re-establishing itself in the football league is good enough reason to justify doing something with the Bishop St stand. Taking that dilapidated eyesore into League One would be a joke. Even tidying it up as other three sided grounds have done in the past.It seems ironic that the QLE proudly states The Oldest Professional Football Ground in the World then there's that indescribable mess next to it.

Martian wrote:Haslam should have moved the West Stand - IG - 20 yards to the west - might still have to happen - to make space for a decent stand on the Bshop Street side without having to move the residents out

The plan was to do just that and rotate the pitch 90 degrees. The Calver criminal did it in the cheap.

New stands and hotels have no chance of being built now. How can you finance them when you are cutting back on the football team?

Both would be owned by One Call Estates not MTFC. So can MTFC afford or be willing to pay an increased rent for a new stand whilst in L2 Logistically do you need to build the stand before the hotel is built but looking at the plans doesn't seem to be a problem.Presumably OCE can raise the money to build both with guaranteed tenants to cover any financial loans.Don't think the new hotel actually fills in the corner just blocks the view from the ground.If you knock down BS without a new stand you loss sponsorship space, seats in UWS to accommodate the cameras and create a bigger eyesore.

cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future. This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

Accrington did a new ‘steel step’ sort of upgrade too, it’s cheaper but does the job.

cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future. This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

Accrington did a new ‘steel step’ sort of upgrade too, it’s cheaper but does the job.

cornish stag wrote:Why couldn't we do similar to Exeter's marsh Kia stand? Holds about a thousand standing away fans, made of steel steps and could easily be modified if needed in the future. This stand was only renovated last year, so I assume it's still ok to build new standing terraces?

Accrington did a new ‘steel step’ sort of upgrade too, it’s cheaper but does the job.

Accrington's new one cost £1M

Not bad for a 1000+ seated and covered stand with good facilities, but I get the point.

If JR said he could not justify spending that on a new stand, you cannot really argue against it but I still think at a minimum we should at least pull that shack down and erect a fence for the sponsorship for a improvement to overall feeling.

Pull it down.It looks awful.I still think building the hotel first is the way to go.When we get promotion then build a new stand.The extra funding we get would help towards the cost.Better no scoreboard at all rather than that eyesore.

geoffhill wrote:Pull it down.It looks awful.I still think building the hotel first is the way to go.When we get promotion then build a new stand.The extra funding we get would help towards the cost.Better no scoreboard at all rather than that eyesore.

Why wait until promotion? - What if that never happens? Plenty of lesser clubs than ourselves have four sided grounds. Indeed 99% of all football clubs have four sided grounds (regardless of which league they are in). Our ground will always be 'tinpot' until we sort out the Bishop St. side. It is far, far more important than an irrelevant Hotel. And the opinion polls support that view.

geoffhill wrote:Pull it down.It looks awful.I still think building the hotel first is the way to go.When we get promotion then build a new stand.The extra funding we get would help towards the cost.Better no scoreboard at all rather than that eyesore.

Why wait until promotion? - What if that never happens? Plenty of lesser clubs than ourselves have four sided grounds. Indeed 99% of all football clubs have four sided grounds (regardless of which league they are in). Our ground will always be 'tinpot' until we sort out the Bishop St. side. It is far, far more important than an irrelevant Hotel. And the opinion polls support that view.

TBH the hotels is relevant specially if it’s going to increase our income. A new stand isn’t going to attract additional home fans and if we’re allowed to put additional Away fans in there it still won’t rival an hotel as a income generator.

I want both to be completed but would rather see the hotel come first.

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Build the hotel ,and add sections to north and south stands so it looks like a continuous ground ,if and when we progress up the leagues, then build a three tier stand to join up to the filled in corners suggested. 1946/47 stag

Safe standing would be brilliant but access from quarry lane only ?A few things need sorting after that. Toilets, fire exits, stewards and prob noise pollution for bishop street residents. Maybe press boxes or hospitality boxes or a virtual reality screen of a crowd singing the whole game. Or even better a virtual reality live cam of everyone watching on I follow. It's the future, we all stay at home and our faces are projected on to the seats. No police costs or steward costs. All the trouble makers can ask the away fans for a fight on Xbox or whatever. You heard it here first.

Trenam wrote:Build the hotel ,and add sections to north and south stands so it looks like a continuous ground ,if and when we progress up the leagues, then build a three tier stand to join up to the filled in corners suggested. 1946/47 stag

I think that a 'four sided ground' is far more important than a hotel, adding sections to the corners, or adding additional tiers. The ground is only a '3/4 ground' at the moment. Ignoring that missing 1/4 and adding to the other 3/4 will make it even more unbalanced.

99% of football grounds, irrespective of their status, or wherever in the world ..... have 4 sides.