I request the PRESIDENT ALL PAKISTAN PA & PS ASSOCIATION to call a meeting of the association and made decision.Usually the association did all the decisions of all the matters relate to PA & PS community. but now we are not listening any thing from this association. Dear Khalid please activate this. we are wainting

Dear Khalid Bhai and all other my colleagues, hope all of you would be fine and best of your spirits. This is great news that P.S have been awarded all the benefits of BS-17 but as you all know this was the struggle and hard work of Mr.Khalid who secure all this for P.S and P.A/Stenographer was just given a peanut of just one scale raise i.e. from BS-15 to BS-16 while P.S get maximum benefit like BS-17 and time scale to even BS-20. Now it is time to make things right and also get BS-17 for APS which was your actual demand and that too with a time scale so that they may not once again stuck in BS-17 and can further get promotion to BS-18 & BS-19 too like P.S. We need your kind help as usual to get this done, we all are fully with you and will also help your morally and financially, do not feel panic and just concentrate on BS-17 for all APS. Kindly also keep all of us updated about the latest on your struggle.Thanks a lot.

On the behalf of Khalid Riaz, who is ready to file case in the High Court. We need a person (APS) to file the case in the High Court, Establishment Division have no objection on time scale promotion but finance division is not agree. Fee of Advocate is the responsibility of Khalid Riaz and he confirmed that dont worry about Advocate FEE

AOA to all of this forum, it is good new to file the case in the High court, first of all our major demand for time scale is BPS-17 (after completion of 5-years in BPS-16) and further time scale is BPS-18 (after completion of 10-years service in BPS-16 to BPS-18, or 5-years service in BPS-17 to grant time scale to BPS-18)like PS. Our case is genuine like PS, we should submit the same like PS, mean, PS time scale goes to BPS-19, and focus to High court that same category. We should example the same case like PS category BPS-17 to BPS-19 (for 5-years service in BPS-17 to grant BPS-18 and 10-years service in BPS-17 to grant BPS-19 and 5-years service in BPS-17 grant to BPS-18). Please do example before to present the case in the High court. thanks,Munir Qureshi,APS

AOA, we never want time scale BPS-17, we want BPS-18 on following grounds:1. time scale BPS-17............... After completion of 5-years service in BPS-16.2. Time Scale BPS-18-------------after completion of 5-years service in BPS-17 and after completion of 10-years service in BPS-16.

AOA, we never want only time scale BPS-17 onlyWe want BPS-18 on the following ground like PS.1- Time scale BPS-17----------------After completion of 5-years service in BPS-16.2. Time Scale BPS-18------------- After completion of 5-years in BPS-17 and 10-years in BPS-16.Thanks to allMunir QureshiAPS

There is a very happy and great news for Stenographers as Punjab Government has agreed to grant time scale to Stenographer on completion of 10 years service as Stenographer to BS-17. It is a great achievement and great example for us to follow and now we must try and make all out efforts to get this benefit for all federal government employees but also keeping in mind that there should further be promotion to BS-18 & 19 too likewise PS. The notification can be seen on website 'Galaxy World'.

Hope you would be fine and best of your spirits. After the announcement of up-gradation of clerks in recent budget i.e. for Assistant BS-14 to BS-16, I think we APS are now left with no option to use all our efforts and energies to get BS-17 ASAP. Because if an Assistant can go by 05 scales I mean from BS-11 to 14 and then 16 then why we are just content with a single scale i.e. BS-15 to BS-16. We are the victims who despite doing too much work did not get anything and just was given a lolly pop of just 01 scale up-gradation. This recent up-gradation have made our position very miserable and we are now hiding from all the Assistants who will not longer respect us because we all are now in the same scale, why a pity it is and mockery of system. I along with all the APS now request you to kindly fast your pace and do all your linkages and experience to get BS-17 with time scale for all the APS otherwise we will be rated as the biggest losers.

Dear Colleagues, AOA, may palay din say ka raha tha ka we should effort for APS , the Finance Minister will announce the up gradation of Assistant and other, but noboday can pain and we left behind, it is no doubt the comment of Mr. Khan, we get one scale up-gradation BPS-17, we just now start effort for grant of permanent scale of BPS-17 and then after 5-years and 10-years completion in BPS-17 to grant BPS-18 and BPS-19 like PS. We never want direct time scale of BPS-17, our first writ in the FST for the grant of BPS-17 but never effort at that time and happy to get BPS-16. Khalid bahi, you appeal through department for grant of BPS-17 permanent and then we should go to high court or supreme court. we never to take the time scale because the others category get huge scale we left behind, if we effort and threatened the government to stop work in the secretariat, because the secretariat working cannot continue with the help of APS. because most of our colleagues perform their duties with high officer. Thanks, we should start efforts quickly, what is your opinion in this matter khalid bahi. please touch with this forum most of the APS are wanted response from your sides because u r the hero of this forum. without effort we never go ahead.ThanksMunir Qureshi.

Love to hear sentiments of Mr. Munir, it is absolutely based on fact that APS is the only cadre which do most of the work/duty but are left far behind while giving any benefits. We were just given a lolly pop of one scale and on the other side clerks have gone by 05 scales from BS-11 to BS-16 without doing nothing, they will still just do diary/dispatch work but will be a gazetted officer, why a joke Ishaq Dar made to this country. Now it is our turn to be united and that is the only way we can get our due share and right reward of BS-17 and further time scale for 18, 19 and 20. APS benefited least instead P.S benefited mostly while the entire fight was made by Mr. Khalid who himself is an APS. Please be united all APS and request Mr. Khalid to kindly come on stage and guide us to BS-17.

AOA Best wishes for all colleagues. Tamam doston ko Ramdan Sharif ki amad per mubarak. There are so many APSs working in the Establishment Division and Finance Division but no voice from these divisions is heard. These colleagues are very powerful and can work for our demand of BS-17. They are serving in the very high profile Officers and can achieve a lot but they all are not interested in this matter. Fifteen months ago, a summery was moved by the Controller General of Accounts for grant of BS-17 to the APS but nothing in heard in this regard also.

AOA Best wishes for all colleagues. Tamam doston ko Ramdan Sharif ki amad per mubarak. There are so many APSs working in the Establishment Division and Finance Division but no voice from these divisions is heard. These colleagues are very powerful and can work for our demand of BS-17. They are serving in the very high profile Officers and can achieve a lot but they all are not interested in this matter. Fifteen months ago, a summery was moved by the Controller General of Accounts for grant of BS-17 to the APS but nothing in heard in this regard also.

AOA Best wishes for all colleagues. Ramdan Sharif ki amad mubarak ho. A huge number of our colleagues are presently working in the Finance Division and Establishment Division. They are very close to high profile Officers of thees divisions. They can do a lot for grant of BS-17 to APS. They are requested to do some thing in this regard. Fifteen months ago, a summery was moved by the Controller General of Accounts for grant of BS-17 to APS, but nothing is heard in this regard so far. An APS of Pakistan National Savings also filed a writ in the Federal Service Tribunal but this case is also unattended and no date of hearing has been fixed so far. Any progress in this regard may be shared with the colleagues.

Khalid bahi, AOA, what is your opinion in this matter. please tell this forum after the up-gradation of Assistant BPS-16 and other category and what u want to do at this stage. before this u focus the time scale of BPS-17 for APS and after the that the situation has been changed. What is your view please tell this forum khalid bahi. Thanks Munir Qureshi, APS

khalid bahi, most of colleagues of this forum for waiting for your reply/response on the up-gradation of assistant of BPS-16 and what is your view about the APS for further more upgraddation.Pl. inform to this forumthanksMunir QureshiAPS

It is good new that Khalid bahi have given response and desired to look a person (APS) to writ the case in the court he will fully support in the case. I wanted to take the responsibility because i am in semi government most of rules are own. A person who writ case who work in the secretariat or main ministry of federal government. Please share to all to inform this forum who is ready for writ in the court.please give response to khalid bahi so the process can be start. But to inform khalid bahi, the same case will be for time scale or permanent scale for BPS-17 for APS. Please do justify this case.Thanks.Munir Qureshi.

It is good new that Khalid bahi have given response and desired to look a person (APS) to writ the case in the court he will fully support in the case. I wanted to take the responsibility because i am in semi government most of rules are own. A person who writ case who work in the secretariat or main ministry of federal government. Please share to all to inform this forum who is ready for writ in the court.please give response to khalid bahi so the process can be start. But to inform khalid bahi, the same case will be for time scale or permanent scale for BPS-17 for APS. Please do justify this case.Thanks.Munir Qureshi.

I am coming back after so many days to this form, hope you all will be fine. I am wondering where we are lost, in my opinion there is not much benefit of this 10% promotion quota, this way we may get 1 or 2 vacancies and then our fellow brothers will keep on waiting for decades because most of the APS are 30-40 years old and then that one seat will vacate in next 10 years and all other will keep on waiting & waiting & waiting. So in my humble opinion no benefit of 10% quota, we have lost our way, if Assistant can get up-gradation twice one from 11 to 14 then 14 to 16 in 3-4 years time then why not we can get another up-gradation to BS-17 and time scale like PS in next 05 years BS-18 and next 03 years BS-19, what wrong we have done. For God sake, be united and revert to our basic and original demand, right of BS-17. To further salt in the wounds, the only benefit available for APS of late sitting has also been withdrawn from us despite working so late with senior officers and thus we have been deprived of Rs. 3500/month, which if paid can be used for our cases of u-gradations too, my humble request to Khalid Sahib to kindly remove the word of just Gazetted from that notification as Late sitting allowance is not admissible to BS-16 (Gazetted) whereas it is still admissible to BS-16 (Non-Gazetted), another question arise how a BS-16 officer can be non-gazetted, so sir, please get this LSA at least be admissible to APS the most deserving cadre for this allowance and also use your full efforts for BS-17 for APS with time scale for BS-18 & 19, and not for 10% quota. Late Sitting Allowance issue is to be sort out at first now I think it is 200/day, why not APS to benefit from this.

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