tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post116520849437268078..comments2015-03-31T07:38:29.078-04:00Comments on College Football Blog: MZone Exclusive: Bias Behind Harris Poll RevealedYosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09715437509940349084noreply@blogger.comBlogger112125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-36598653190557419592007-01-12T15:06:00.000-05:002007-01-12T15:06:00.000-05:00My favorite quote from someone that knows football...My favorite quote from someone that knows football to those homers that only have a rooting interest in the sport (even the obnoxious OSU fans still eating humble pie)..."You think you know, but you don't know. And you never will." <br /><br />Folks, Jim Walden has forgotten more about football than you blogging complainers will ever know. Hypocrisy is part of the charm of college football. Just stick to cheering for your team.<br /><br />Is that spring practice I see peeking around the corner?collegefootballisnumberonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16794587024719267302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-41544282692152768582007-01-09T21:22:00.000-05:002007-01-09T21:22:00.000-05:00FLA 41 OSU 14. All you whiners about the Harris Po...FLA 41 OSU 14. All you whiners about the Harris Poll care to retract what you posted? Probably not, you just hope no one goes back to see how wrong you were.JFooshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05629227685937886158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-17723155039674470992007-01-09T07:58:00.000-05:002007-01-09T07:58:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Burkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16381569976431721653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1166034984825376962006-12-13T13:36:00.000-05:002006-12-13T13:36:00.000-05:00VoterRay MelickTim NeverettGene PontiJim WaldenBob...Voter<BR/>Ray Melick<BR/>Tim Neverett<BR/>Gene Ponti<BR/>Jim Walden<BR/>Bobby Aillet<BR/>Denny Aldridge<BR/>Dick Bestwick<BR/>Joe Biddle<BR/>Blaine Bishop<BR/>Wilt Browning<BR/>Earle Bruce<BR/>Brentson Buckner<BR/>Bob Casciola<BR/>Reggie Collier<BR/>Gene Corrigan<BR/>Eddie Crowder<BR/>Pete Dawkins<BR/>Doug Dickey<BR/>Brian Dohn<BR/>Boots Donnelly<BR/>Bill Dooley<BR/>John Dorsey<BR/>Kevin Duhé<BR/>Bob Dunlevy<BR/>Bert Emanuel<BR/>Boomer Esiason<BR/>Rondo Fehlberg<BR/>Bob Frederick<BR/>Mike Grace<BR/>Geoff Grammer<BR/>Bob Grim<BR/>Lee Grosscup<BR/>Tom Hammond<BR/>Dick Harmon<BR/>Ken Hatfield<BR/>Tommy Hicks<BR/>David Housel<BR/>Fred Jacoby<BR/>Joe Jacoby<BR/>Scott Johnson<BR/>Mike Kolen<BR/>Roy Kramer<BR/>George Lapides<BR/>Bobby Leach<BR/>Ted Lewis<BR/>Iliana Limon<BR/>Mike Lucas<BR/>Mike Lude<BR/>Tom Luicci<BR/>Cindy Luis<BR/>John Mackovic<BR/>Loren Matthews<BR/>Lance McIlhenny<BR/>Bill McLellan<BR/>Ted Miller<BR/>Jim Morse<BR/>Brad Muster<BR/>Denny O'Brien<BR/>David Paschall<BR/>John Pont<BR/>Steve Preece<BR/>Paul Roach<BR/>Kenny Roda<BR/>Irwin Smallwood<BR/>Ron Stephenson<BR/>Rick Taylor<BR/>Max Urick<BR/>Roger Valdiserri<BR/>Tommy Vardell<BR/>Frank Weedon<BR/>Jack White<BR/>Frank Windegger<BR/>Sammy Winder<BR/>Hugh Yoshida<BR/><BR/>There is a list of all the voters from the Harris Poll who put Florida in #2. I encourage you all the email them and ask them what their reasoning was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165678999599161162006-12-09T10:43:00.000-05:002006-12-09T10:43:00.000-05:00why can't the folks in michigan get someone to he...why can't the folks in michigan get someone to help you beat osu?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165299172749384822006-12-05T01:12:00.000-05:002006-12-05T01:12:00.000-05:00As a fan without any allegiance to Michigan, Flori...As a fan without any allegiance to Michigan, Florida or Ohio State, I personally simply did not want to see a rematch.<BR/><BR/>Forget how a game is a national championship game for a moment. The purpose of bowls is for teams from different conferences to meet at a neutral site. Arkansas will play Wisconsin, who doesn't seem to have a single great win. USC will play Michigan, who both count a beating of ND as their best win.<BR/><BR/>Bowls with the right matchups let the better conferences come out of the woodwork. I still remember Cal going through the same exact motions as this site in 2004 over Texas going to number 4. Well, Texas beat Michigan in the rose bowl, while Cal lost to Texas Tech, a team that Texas beat earlier in the year.<BR/><BR/>So, I'd hate to see a bowl ever pit two teams from the same conference. Just think, if Florida beat ND easily and the rest of the SEC did well in their bowl games including a big Arkansas victory over Wisconsin, we would be scratching our heads about whether the SEC champion just might have been better than the Michigan/OSU victor.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, with OSU playing Florida, we still know that OSU is the better team than UM, considering that the two teams played on a 100 yard field for 60 minutes and OSU scored more points.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I'm a Georgia Tech fan, but I was actually raised a huge FSU fan. If anything, I would be biased against Florida and the SEC, being ACC throughout. But I will never support a game after Christmas between two teams from the same conference. We play the regular season to already determine who in conference is better; we don't need bowl games to tell us.matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165284891881024712006-12-04T21:14:00.000-05:002006-12-04T21:14:00.000-05:00In my opinion, this whole controversy exemplifies ...In my opinion, this whole controversy exemplifies both why we should and should not include humans in the polls; yes, I'm saying that the good and bad reason for having human element in deciding the rankings is the same reason. As many others have said, many human voters in the polls not only screwed over UM, but other teams as well. At the same time, us Wolverines would be grateful to the human element had they been rightfully deemed #2. This is to say, the human element of the polls both make and break the "true" rankings. It scares me to death that some looney can be part of the deciding factor in who gets what ranking (with the exception of some of the coaches who actually watch film of the top 25 teams). I'd rather there be only computer rankings. Shit, a playoff is the easiest solution but we have this same fucking conversation every year and we never get a new system. I don't mean to be a pessimist but, I don't ever see us having a playoff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165280719034293872006-12-04T20:05:00.000-05:002006-12-04T20:05:00.000-05:00By the way, not to talk about the "good old days" ...By the way, not to talk about the "good old days" but if we went back to pre-BCS we would have USC-Ohio State in the Rose, Florida and either Michigan or Louisville in the Sugar and Oklahoma and Louisville or Michigan in the Orange (with BYU in the Holiday vs. Wisconsin and the Fiesta scrambling for the best match-up, probably Boise and Arkansas or Wisconsin). Think about it: No one vs. two but four or five teams STILL alive. Even Wisconsin! I know voters can be pretty awful as has been shown this year but you would at least get two polls and a fighting chance. Lots of schools alive and lots of interest. This year--yawn. And I know how proponents of the BCS say to fight it out on the field--but are you really doing so with such a flawed system? How about one computer-based poll and one human only? So what if there's a split?wds4uscnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165278895031212572006-12-04T19:34:00.000-05:002006-12-04T19:34:00.000-05:00Well, I feel for you guys. I really think Michigan...Well, I feel for you guys. I really think Michigan is a better team than Florida but I think a lot of people just didn't want a rematch. But at least Michigan didn't go undefeated, also win a conference championship game, and still get fucked out of it like Auburn a couple of years ago. And I have to agree with your coach, this politicking on TV shit just makes me sick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165278066620925372006-12-04T19:21:00.000-05:002006-12-04T19:21:00.000-05:00All this bickering is pointless. Who cares who th...All this bickering is pointless. Who cares who the #2 team is? OSU has already knocked off two #2 teams and they are going to make it a third on Jan 8th. Both UF and UM are going to have nothing left to say after that.<BR/><BR/>That's it. End of controversy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165277166026184492006-12-04T19:06:00.000-05:002006-12-04T19:06:00.000-05:00LSU, and Florida are going to win. USC rolls over...LSU, and Florida are going to win. USC rolls over Big Blew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165277080558056862006-12-04T19:04:00.000-05:002006-12-04T19:04:00.000-05:00srudoff:Oh, I thought you were asking about the st...srudoff:<BR/><BR/>Oh, I thought you were asking about the statistics behind the computers ranking the Pac10 school's SOS so high. I didn't realize we were just supposed to say it's stupid because you don't understand it. Check. I think that's all the help I can provide.statprofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165275177311410342006-12-04T18:32:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:32:00.000-05:00Real classy post there. Wow, talk about losing any...Real classy post there. Wow, talk about losing any credibility you may have had. Use some class and lose the profanity. <BR/><BR/>Moving on: <BR/> <BR/>Personally I was almost at the point of hoping we would face UM again. 'They asked for it. Let's give it to em' I think it would be absolutely fascinating watching the OHIO STATE printer machines working overtime churning out Mike Hart's postgame quotes. Dude's 0-3 against us and he still says they have a better team.<BR/><BR/>BUT> I do say M*ch*g*n is the second best team in the country. I will not argue against that fact. However, if you are complaining about the way the BCS is run, I'll concede that ground to you and we'll imagine it would be run like the NBA or the NFL. Has anyone seen the Lakers and the Spurs in the championship game lately? Five years ago they were clearly the two best teams. Oh wait, they're both in the same conference so when the Lakers won the Conference Championship the Spurs went home to watch a far inferior New Jersey Nets team play and lose to the Lakers. Life sucks. Get over it! I don't like the BCS either but thats why we dont wanna leave it up to the human element. Win all your games and you wouldnt be in this position right now. Personally if we'd be playing Michigan I'd be more excited than I am now, but it didn't happen. <BR/><BR/>(Not to mention the fact that before THE GAME both Tressel AND LLLLLoyd Carr said the loser should not be permitted to play in the National Championship.) Sorry, should we not take you at your word LLLLLoyd?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165274837032077372006-12-04T18:27:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:27:00.000-05:00crock - you're on the clock - 48 hours to put your...crock - you're on the clock - 48 hours to put your money where your mouth is<BR/><BR/>yost - this came from the University of Florida Student newspaperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165274771162523152006-12-04T18:26:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:26:00.000-05:00Anon,Your little cartoon calls Lloyd a whiner? Ha...Anon,<BR/><BR/>Your little cartoon calls Lloyd a whiner? Ha. HA! HAHAHAHAHA!<BR/><BR/>Good one. No really. Urban took the high road here. Yeah, Gator fans shouldn't be ashamed.Yosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09715437509940349084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165274011720091022006-12-04T18:13:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:13:00.000-05:00to: Anonymous said... http://aswcomics.com/editor...to: Anonymous said... <BR/>http://aswcomics.com/editorials/comics/20061204.gif <BR/><BR/>December 04, 2006 2:31 PM <BR/><BR/>really, after so much controversy and craziness in the past 48 hours - that's all you can come up with? - I'm a chick weighing in at a buck-ten and can come up with something better than that. <BR/>have fun watching the gators lose on Jan. 8crockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15856814335656130056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165272304691353182006-12-04T17:45:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:45:00.000-05:00Jim,can i answer "5 all of the above"? to a man, ...Jim,<BR/>can i answer "5 all of the above"? <BR/><BR/>to a man, almost all of the FLA grads i know are "good" guys that i like. i went to the outback w/against them in '03 and it was a hoot. most of the FLA angst is really towards the system, accented by Urban's approach to this. that's why i've tried to not knock them hard- it's not their fault they have one loss and want to play for the mnc.<BR/><BR/>in all honsety, by the time the game comes around i'll probably be bleeding orange & blue from all the nonsense by tosu fans here in columbus.<BR/><BR/>thanks.surrounded in columbushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03601242730635388659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165271696405169072006-12-04T17:34:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:34:00.000-05:00From a die-hard Michigan fan...NOT SURE WHAT'S WOR...From a die-hard Michigan fan...<BR/><BR/>NOT SURE WHAT'S WORSE; URBAN MEYER PISSING AND MOANING AND PUTTING UP THE BIGGEST MUDSLINGING, VOTE SWINGING CAMPAIGN IN SPORTS HISTORY (well at least since Scott Frost in 1997), OR ALL OF THE HYPOCRITICAL MICHIGAN FANS. LLOYD CARR SETS A FINE EXAMPLE OF WHAT OUR PROGRAM SHOULD BE KNOWN FOR....NOT GETTING CAUGHT UP IN ALL THE HYPE AND BS THAT SURROUNDS THE SYSTEM. WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR A ROSE BOWL BERTH AGAINST USC. THERE ARE OBVIOUS FLAWS AND WE CAN ONLY HOPE THE OUTCOME THIS YEAR HAS GREAT INFLUENCE ON THE FUTURE OF THE DETERMINING OF A NATIONAL CHAMPION IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL. LET'S STOP THE COMPLAINING, IT IS WHAT IT IS. ARE WE UNHAPPY? YES. IS IT UNFAIR? OBVIOUSLY. ARE WE NUMBER 2? WHO KNOWS. YOU PLAY THE CARDS YOU'RE DEALT. WE SHOULD FOCUS ON USC AND SHOW EVERYONE HOW GREAT OF A TEAM MICHIGAN HAS THIS YEAR THE WAY BO, LLOYD AND COMPANY WOULD WANT....ON THE FIELD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165271532459817502006-12-04T17:32:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:32:00.000-05:00<A HREF="http://aswcomics.com/editorials/comics/20061204.gif" REL="nofollow"></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165271497857718662006-12-04T17:31:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:31:00.000-05:00http://aswcomics.com/editorials/comics/20061204.gi...http://aswcomics.com/editorials/comics/20061204.gifAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165271445032180002006-12-04T17:30:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:30:00.000-05:00face it folks.... nobody want to see you and usc i...face it folks.... nobody want to see you and usc in the nc game!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165270774578997232006-12-04T17:19:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:19:00.000-05:00SIC- classy post and all of your points are points...SIC- classy post and all of your points are points well taken.<BR/><BR/>Let's hope the OSU-FL game is a good matchup and not one-sided like lots of folks think.<BR/><BR/>What do you think is the biggest reason folks want to see Florida get demolished?<BR/>1. Because they were picked over UofM?<BR/>2. Because of Urban's attitude about it all?<BR/>3. Because OSU is a Big Ten team.<BR/>4. So the SEC will shut up about how good its top teams are?<BR/><BR/>It does get interesting this time of year.Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165269906919980802006-12-04T17:05:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:05:00.000-05:00Yost et al... I've actually come to tangentially l...Yost et al... I've actually come to tangentially like Michigan through this site and I simply wanted to relay my condolences for the corn holing you took from the voters. The only solace I take in this injustice is that the Maize and Blue will kick USC's ass in the Rose Bowl. <BR/><BR/>Question - will you actually cheer for tOSU over FL ?bigndfan175http://www.blogger.com/profile/04389631320882212830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165269792726657662006-12-04T17:03:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:03:00.000-05:00LSU will loose to ND. They will come out flat. ...LSU will loose to ND. They will come out flat. Who can get up to play ND?? Michigan will loose to USC for the same reason. USC just proved that they are over rated.<BR/><BR/>The BCS got it right the two best teams in the country are playing. Michigan had its shot on the field and lost. It did not win the Big 10, nor would it settle the issue if they beat OSU in a rematch. And if OSU were to defeat Michigan twice, what would that prove for OSU?<BR/><BR/>I think LSU would beat UF if they lined up and played again but the tigers had their chance, just like Michigan.<BR/><BR/>I would much perfered to see Michigan and LSU play and then let the Big 10 and SEC go head to headAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17480875.post-1165269708533342092006-12-04T17:01:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:01:00.000-05:00jason,Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't r...jason,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't realize that the Pac 10 teams all played 9 conference games instead of 8.<BR/><BR/>If we don't get a playoff after the current BCS contract expires, I think the Big Ten and Pac 10 (and the Rose Bowl) should just pull out of this whole mess. The BCS already killed tradition more than a playoff ever would. Let's bring some back.<BR/><BR/>The talking heads on the TV keep saying that a "plus one" format is the next logical step towards a true playoff. If they give us that, then we can go back to the old bowl tie ins and have the top two teams after the bowl games are played play each other for the crown.<BR/><BR/>Who cares if they don't give us the "plus one" format. We should still pull out of the BCS. We'll have a split national championship every single year until they give us the playoff that we want.vulpestonoreply@blogger.com