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Friday, June 25, 2010

Quranic Erroneous By Syed Kamran Mirza

Quranic Erroneous Science and Contradictions!

Syed Kamran Mirzahttp://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/

This essay with some samples of Quranic contradictions and erroneous science has been prepared to rebut wishful Islamists who are claiming science in Quran. Qur’an has numerous scientific flaws, historical, ethical, and logical contradictions, though Mullahs and many western educated Islamists always claim that Quran is infallible and immutable words of God. To disprove their dishonest and deceitful claim—I have compiled some Quranic contradictions and serious scientific flaws in this essay by using authentic Quranic verses and Sahi hadiths, hence categorically proved that Qur’an was man made book.

Making up Science

All wishful apologists usually take selective (pick & choose) verses, taking part of the verse, sometimes by changing the actual words, adding non-existing words etc, they intentionally twist or manipulate the commonly accepted meanings of verses—to prove science in Quran. As usual, these wishful Mullahs do search for the different meanings of the Arabic words and take the meaning which comes close to their justification, even though, actual sentence construction did not relate that chosen meaning/word at all. Maurice Bucailee and Prof. Keith Moore did exactly what I have just described above.

Translation and interpretation Problems

Mullahs and most blind defenders of Quran usually blame the translation of Quran from original Arabic. They will say, translator distorted the verse/verses which was correct in it’s original Arabic etc. And they will insist that, certain verse or verses are only understood by Allah Himself, and human being have limited knowledge, so they should not understand Allah’s mystery (Qudroot). And they will insist that Quran should be read with the help of Tafsirs (interpretations) by famous Islamic scholars. But, interestingly Allah told the different things in Quran. Allah asked Muslims to believe Quran’s literal meaning and clearly forbade any interpretations of Allah’s eternal divine words. Quranic verse: 3:7—clearly prohibited to accept anybody’s interpretation of Allah’s eternal words. Please read this verse below:

[Quran-3:7] “He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are clear and decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.”

Allah says in Quran that, “I made Qur’an very clear, simple and easy and written in Arabic (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40) so that Muslims (Arabs of course) can understand very easily?” Please listen what Merciful Allah says in Qur’an: “ But We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition? (54:22); and “We have made it a Qur’an in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand and learn wisdom (43:3)”. Allah emphatically declared that He made Quran very easy so that Muslims can understand very easily.

No where in the Quran Allah says that my words must be read with the help of Quranic interpretations and commentaries! Quranic Interpretations and Tafsirs have been invented by some wishful educated Mullahs only to hide Quranic absurdities and contradictions. In fact, Quranic verses are mostly simple to understand and any elementary student can understand very easily. Therefore, claiming that Quran is difficult to understand is ludicrous and lame excuse only to hide Allah’s myriads of inanities and flaws.

Below, I have produced some actual and internationally accepted translated Quranic verses (without any change by me) to prove that, Quran do not have any scientific theory as some apologists claim. Rather, Qur’an contains many historical, ethical, logical contradictions and myriads of scientific flaws.

[Special note: Quranic ayats were taken from Maulana A. Yousuf Ali’s English translations of Holy Quran. Maulan Yousuf Ali’s translations are internationally accepted as authentic & unbiased. Some of the recent Quranic translation has biased interpretations and word changing (pick & choose) to match with the utopia of science in Quran. Readers may be informed that, the Quranic translation by Maulana A. Yousuf Ali is considered most reliable & Authentic by most Islamic Scholars throughout the world. Hadiths were taken from Bukhari Sharif (Sahih).]

A. Some Cosmological Flaws: (Scientific contradictions)

(1) God created the Heaven first or, the Earth first (?)

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time He says that the Heaven was created first.

[Quran-2:29]: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

[Quran- 79:27-30]: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built ? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, and after that, God created Heaven? Does modern science tell us that?

(2) Numerical contradictions

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth?

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Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 7:54] 2.

Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 10:3] 3.

He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 11:7] 4.

He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days [Quran 25:59]

The above verses clearly state that God (Allah) created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated:

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Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ? [Quran-41:9] 2.

He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS… [(Quran- 41:10] 3.

So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and… [Quran-41:12]

Quran 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur’anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.

In these verses above one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come? A gross mathematical errors, is not it?

Let us examine Allah’s mathematical genius once more in different fashion:

Adding all distributed properties add up more than the available property, i.e., total becomes more than 1 which are: 1.125, 1.5, 1.33, and 1.25 respectively. Surely, Allah’s mathematics was really divine!!!

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years (?)

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Verily a day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. [Quran 22:47] *

To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your reckoning [Quran 32:5] *

The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years. So, which one is it ? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years? [Quran-70:4]

(3) Fallacies on Sun-set and Sun-rise (?)

The Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring

“Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…” [Quran-18:86]

“Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.” [Quran- 18:90]

There are serious scientific errors here. Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never goes down in a muddy spring or clear spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises. Does any body need to go near rising or setting places to observe—sun-set or sun-rising?

(4) A resting place for Sun: (?)

Interestingly, wishful Mullahs claim that this resting place means the ultimate destruction of the Sun. Sorry, brothers you are dead wrong. Look what Quran says in the following Ayats:

1. And the sun runneth on his course for a period determined for him; that is the decree of (Him). That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. [Quran-36:38] 2. And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf. [Quran-36:39] 3. “It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.” (This they clearly meant for the Sun and Moon only). [Quran-36:40]

Maulana Yousuf Ali’s Tafsir:

“The Arabic word “Mustaqarr” may mean (1) a limit of time, a period determined or (2) a resting place or quiescence; (3) a dwelling place. I think, the first meaning (a time period determined) is best applicable here. But some commentators take the second (a resting place). In that case, the simile would be that of the SUN running a race while he is visible to us, and taking a rest during the night to prepare himself to renew his race the following day. His (SUN) stay with the antipodes appears to us as his period of rest.(page:1178, Sura-36,by Yousuf Ali)”

In the Ayat above (36:39), Quran tells us that, moon gradually changes its shape and eventually (till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf) becomes very thin (wear off Moon) like dried date leaf (crescent- shaped). Only Mullahs can tell us how much sciences are in this Ayat!

(5) A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY SAHI HADITHS

Sahih Bukhari Hadiths:

Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where Sun goes?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh (Allah’s throne) and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get any more permission from Allah to rise again and Qeyamot (dooms day) will fall upon earth.”

Please see page # 1133 of Bengali Translated Quran by Maulana Muhiuddin Khan to see this Hadiths for yourself. You can find this Hadith in Sahih Bukhari Sharif. The Saudi King selected Maulana Muhiuddin to Translate Quran and millions of translated Quran have been distributed throughout the whole world. And 100% of all Bangladeshi Mullahs/Karis/Hafezes believe them by their heart.

Can anybody tell me what is it? Can any Islam loving Brother tell us what is it? Does it tell us about the destroyed Sun after 15 Billions years later? Answer is a big NO! Fact is, it was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10 year old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

(6) Quran wonders why/how Sun and Moon do not collide/catch each other (?)

Above Quranic Ayat (36:40) is telling us that—Sun can not catch/overtake/collide with Moon; Or, Night can not oustrip the day, Or, darkness of Night is covered by Day light; and Day light is covered by Darkness of Night. By any means, Allah did not try to tell us about the SHAPE OF THE EARTH as some apologists want us to believe. This will be a ridiculous thinking. Allah actually wanted to tell us that, Night’s darkness is covered by Day-light and vice-versa. This observation does not take a divinity to determine. Any human being can see it clearly, even cave people observed it millions of years ago.

Quran told us lots of sciences here. Where is the sun and where is the moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and moon neighbors to each other? If I walk in the streets of Dhaka, Bangladesh and my brother walks in the streets of Los Angeles, USA, shall we overtake/collide/catch each other?

Allah is indeed a great scientist. I have the answer for this error: Ancient people saw (bare eye observations) Sun and Moon traveling from east to west (and west to east) seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, yet they do not collide or catch each other and causing day and night etc. People in the 7th century hardly could imagine that all of these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’ gravity. Quran never say any where in the whole Quran that, THE EARTH ROTATES. Quran maintained Geo-centric theory in every respect. Earth was considered center of the Universe. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation, because like humans Allah was also stuck with earth’s gravity. This Quranic verse below once more confirms that the EARTH is fixed and never moves.

Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft¬Forgiving. [Q 35:41]

Allah thought earth is fixed at the center of the universe and never moves. Allah never could feel that this tiny earth is rotating (moving) constantly around the sun! He also thought that there is something calls sky (like roof over the earth) which also never moves because Mighty Allah is holding it fixed with His Mighty hand! What a ludicrous thinking by Allah!

(7) Why Allah created Stars (?)

Quran gives us more scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran-67:5: And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans (Evils)…

Quran-37:6-8: We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Heavenly council? Here Quran is actually talking/describing about falling (shooting) stars (Ulka, Dhumkathoo). Superstitious minds of Quran believed that the sky is the roof (seven firmaments) over the earth where kingdom of Allah situated and there in Allah’s kingdom daily assembly (Allah and His Angels) sits to discuss how to run Allah’s business on earth. So, Allah does not want Satan to listen Allah’s secret conversation with His Angels (readers please see page-1191of Maulan Yousuf ali’s Shanrnazul#. 4037-4038 for more interesting story about this). DOES THIS AGREE WITH MODERN SCIENCE?

(8) Seven heavens (seven firmaments (?)

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He who created the seven heavens, one above the other….And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps… [Quran-67:3-5] *

Do you not see how Allah has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the Sun as a lamp. [Quran-71: 15-16] *

And He completed the seven firmaments (heavens) in two days and assigned to each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps (Sun), and rendered it guarded… [Quran- 41:12]

Quran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other (in layered; there are many sahi hadiths in support of this superstitious belief) and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens. How come moon is furthest object than stars? How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky or any roof over us, it is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is not it? We know very well the word CANOPY stands for a tent in the desert, and Canopy always must have a roof over it to protect from Sun’s heat.

My humble questions to the readers, please tell me how come Allah is telling us that He decorated lower heaven (Sky) by stars? Are stars situated at the lower sky? Modern science tells us that, stars are (most) furthest object from our solar system. Sun is the nearest star for us. Does Quran tell us that the SUN is also a star? Answer is a BIG NO. Allah says Sun is a lamp/torch for the earth. Am I right? Do you see how much science here?

(9) Sky/Heaven is hanging without pillars and Mountains are placed to prevent shaking (?)

The Quran says [31:10]:

He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…..

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even we go Billions of Trillions of miles in all direction. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, question of pillars comes? What was the need of pillars? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there anything called above or bellow in true sense? Are mountains there to prevent earth from shaking? Readers can read a Sahi Bukhari Hadiths about Ascension of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to heaven (Miraz story) where these seven skies (seven firmaments) have been well recognized and described.

(10) Why Mountains were created (?)

In the following verses, Quran claims that mountains were set on the earth so that the earth never can shake when human being dwelt in it.

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And We have set on earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them. [Quran- 21:31] 2.

And he has cast the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you… [Quran-16:15] 3.

He created the heavens without supports that you can see, and has cast onto the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you… [Quran-31:10]

It is clearly understood that Quranic author was completely ignorant about the geological reasoning for existence of mountains. He saw that mountains are huge and heavy. So, He (Allah) thought mountains actually prevent Shaking (Earthquake) of the earth. Fact is, this particular reason for existence of mountains is a direct contradiction with modern geological knowledge. Geology proves to us that movement of tectonic plates, or earthquake itself causes mountains to be formed. Besides, we know very well that, every year several dozens of earthquakes happen on earth. Then what is the result of Allah’s promise? Can we believe that, Mountains are there to prevent earthquake?

(11) Sun and moon rotates/travels (?)

Quran never said everything in the universe does move/rotates, but Quran always said SUN and MOON moves/travels. Quran never ever said that, the earth moves or travels. And this is an open challenge to all Mullahs to disprove my assertion. Like all other religious books, Holy Quran believed Geo-centric theory and earth was considered center of the Universe. Only recently, no more than two decades ago, scientists learned that Sun also moves through the galaxy taking all the Planets with it. Fact is Allah was not stating real Sun’s movement, (which is, just one circle of Solar galaxy by 226 millions of years) but He (God) was stating Sun’s daily movement which was believed for millions of years until Copernicans time. Allah’s assertion of “settled place” or “an appointed time” was about the daily Sun rise and Sun setting. Following verses will prove that very clearly:

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“He created the heavens and the earth (in true proportions) ; He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night; He has subjected The Sun and Moon (to his law); each one follows a course for a time appointed.” Here each one clearly refers to Sun & Moon (in the previous sentence), and not everything in the Universe as wishful apologists claim. [Quran-39:5] *

“Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.” [Quran-31:29] *

“It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.” [Quran-21: 33]

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over, again and again almost in every other pages of Quran. Because, Quranic author, standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned sun & moon, He mentioned day & night, as if, it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. Allah also saw, both the sun and moon are traveling seemingly at the same sky area and He was amazed how come they do not collide or how come sun can not catch moon(?) That was the sun’s movement Allah was talking about, which cave people could have said millions of years ago or a boy of five can say that very accurately. Is not it? Who does not see Sun’s movement from east to west?

Truth about Sun’s movement

Although, modern science believes that Sun also moves, Sun is considered stationary for earth in real/practical sense, because earth is stuck to the giant gravitation of the sun and continuously moves along with the sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to earth’s gravity and do not feel earth’s movement at all. Yet science (people, not Allah) discovered that sun also moves, but what is the sun’s course? In real world, Sun takes about 226 million years to make just one complete circle through the Solar galaxy. And this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Then, why Allah was telling almost in every pages of Quran: “ I compelled sun and moon to travel for fixed/appointed times (supposedly 12 hours daily) and day and night follows” Why? There was no valid reason why Allah would say again and again about the Sun’s final stage destruction (?) of “white dwarf”, as some unscrupulous Mullahs claimed. Could any body tell me exactly what relation does it (sun’s movement) have with day and night?

In Quran, Allah always tells about Day & Night whenever He says about sun & moon? What is the relation of movements of sun and moon with day and night? Is day and night follows because of sun’s movement? One certainly needs to wonder, why Allah has to mention hundreds of times, about sun’s 226 millions year journey (as some wishful apologists claim that) to tell about day and night? What relation sun’s movement has with the day and night? It is obvious that, Allah was telling sun’s daily movement from east to west which people believed for millions of years. But surprisingly, all the wishful apologists giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. These apologists asking us to believe that Allah actually mentioned Sun’s orbit of the Solar Universe. What a wishful distortion of the truth. In fact, Quran repeatedly mentioned about the following only: Sun, Moon, Stars, heavens (Sky) and earth. That’s all. Quran never mentioned even about other planets (Jupiter, Mars, Pluto etc.) Quran portrayed all those Planets as nearest stars.

Readers Please consider the following: (a) Sahi hadiths I gave about Sun’s rest under Allah’s Aroosh? (b) What relation day and night might have with the Sun’s single movement by 226 millions of years? (c) If Quran already has established Helio-centric cosmology (as some wishful Islamists claim) then why Arabic Mullahs did not come forward to save Copernicas, Leonardo Bruno, Galileo etc. from those Christian Mullahs?

(12) Sky/Heaven is nothing but A ROOF or Canopy over the Earth (?)

The Quran says:

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And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents. [Quran-21:32 *

He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…[Quran-31:10] *

And We have made the sky (heavens) as roof (canopy) well guarded… [Quran-21: 32] *

Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy; [Quran-2: 22]

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even we go Billions of Trillions of miles in all direction. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, question of pillars comes? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy (Shamiaa’na) above the earth? In most Bengali translated Quran all Maulanas writes: Allah akashke samiaana bannei-ese. Is there anything called above or below in true sense? This verse below even confirming the idea of ‘Canopy’ which has no holes/windows and it is like a sealed cap over the earth which is a “couch” for mankind.

(13) Allah foretold in the Quran that mankind will conquer space!

Source of this Islamic science is the verse below:

O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be Ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! Not without authority shall ye be able to pass! [Q 55:33]

On several previous Ayats (preceding to this verse above) were full of cautions & threats to the unbelievers. Allah was cautioning that soon judgment day will come and nobody will be able to flee from the accountability of their misdeeds. Therefore, by this particular Ayat Allah actually challenging all unbelieving “Jins & Men” that nobody can escape death or judgment of Allah and nobody can escape from the boundary of Sky (heaven) and earth, the CANOPY OF ALLAH (readers please see page#1320 of Bengali translated Qur’an by Saudi King. You will be amazed how apologists have distorted/manipulated the actual notion of this Ayat). Here Allah is challenging Jins and Men that they can never go out of this boundary of earth & Sky (“beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth”) without a special authority/power from god, which Jins and men do not possess. Literally, Allah proclaimed that Jins & men can not pierce the wall of this Allah’s Canopy. But, apologists are claiming that Allah actually told that, men can (?) conquer the space. Apologists virtually reversed the actual notion of this Ayat to claim that Quran foretold mankind’s conquest of space. What a wishful distortion of the Quranic verse by Islamists to gain science in Quran?

(14) Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the earth which will break/shatter on the dooms day (?)

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And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens… [Quran 78:19] *

When the Sky is cleft asunder [Quran-82:01] *

And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft) [Quran-69:16] *

When the stars fall, losing their luster. [Quran-81:2]

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the earth, rather all around earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shattered or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats (Quranic verses) Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

(15) Quran foretold about cosmic expansion of Big-bang theory!

Allah says:

And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! [Quran-51:48]

“With the power and skill did we construct the Firmament; for it is We Who create the vastness of space.” [Quran-51:47]

Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)? [Quran-78: 6-7]

And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable; [Quran-15:19]

Shune-nozul (Tafsir) by Maulana Yousuf Ali:

“The space in heavens above, Who can comprehend it but He Who made it sustains it. The globe of the earth under your feet, how great its expanse seems over sea and land, and spread out for you like a wonderful carpet or bed of rest.”

Now, does this match with space expansion of our universe according to the Big-bang theory? Certainly not. Quran never told that “Universe” is expanding; rather Allah talked about the unlimited open space between the Earth and the imaginary sky. And Allah also bragged that He made the earth wide and spacious. Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Is there any modern science here? APOLOGISTS TRIED TO EXPLAIN THESE WORDS “EXPANSE” OR “SPEAD OUT” AS THE COSMIC EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE. This is a pure distortion of the actual intention of the Ayat.

(16) Big-Bang theory foretold in Quran!

Islamists by their ultra-wishful interpretations of the Quranic verse: 21:30 shamelessly and foolishly try to fool the gullible poor Muslims and some westerners that Holy Quran already told about Big-bang theory 1400 hundred years ago! Source of their weird claim is the verse below:

“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” [Quran-21:30, Yousuf Ali]

What Koran said was very simple. Earth and sky (heaven-a roof over head?) was separated by Allah and Allah is trying to take this credit! That means, Earth and Sky was already there and Allah by his mighty hands separated them? Which idiotic scientist has ever told this nonsense about Big-bang? Does the Big-bang theory really tells that, that earth and sky were already here and these two were just separated and some mad guys call it Big bang theory? This Bedouin Allah thought the so called Sky is a roof or canopy over the flat earth. Who does not know in the 21st century that the so called sky is nothing but space which has no boundary or limit? Actually, there is no such thing called sky; although, people still call it sky by sheer habit developed out of ignorance since ancient time. Question is, do we have any sky over our head? Answer is a Big No!

Folklores of separating Sky (a solid roof) from the flat earth existed in Arabia! Let us examine this verse below:

“Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.” [Quran-13:2, Yousuf Ali]

This verse above clearly depicted the existence of superstitious belief about Earth and sky in ancient Egypt. And very clearly (wrong perceptions of course) described how Allah appointed Sun and Moon to rotate over the fixed earth to cause day and night. In fact, the idea of this above Quranic verses was originated from superstitions commonly believed by Pagans in the Middle East. Such childish or simplistic idea that the heavens and earth were once joined and then separated by the activity of Gods and Goddesses was actually derived from the ancient belief that sky they saw above their heads is a solid roof (Quran repeatedly called it roof or canopy) which mighty Allah separated by His mighty hands and hanged above without any pillars. Among the Egyptians for example, it was the involuntary separation of Geb (the Earth god) from his wife and sister Nut (the sky goddess) that was responsible for the division of the earth from the sky. The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh likewise describes the moment “when the heavens had been separated from the earth, when the earth had been delimited from the heavens” as a result of the separation of a sky God (An) from an earth Goddess (Ki) [THHuxley]. We can easily find the root of this above verse (13:2) made up by Allah of the Quran. Question is do we get any science in this superstitious rubbish?

What is Big-bang theory?

The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe that is best supported by all lines of scientific evidence and observation. The essential idea is that the universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past and continues to expand to this day [Wikepedia]. Moreover, Big Bang in Physics refers to the explosion of SPACE-TIME SINGULARITY (not matter). Matter was not even created when Big Bang happened approximately 15 Billion years ago. Earth was formed billions of years after the Big Bang by sheer cosmic evolutionary process.

By any means, Big bang theory has been just speculated by the scientists and is accepted by the majority of the scientists, and it is yet to be proven. What happens if in the future scientists come up with different theory of creation and discard this Big-bang theory altogether? What the hell these poor Islamists will do then? Truth is Quran never spoken anything that at all fits with the hypothetical discovery of Big-Bang theory discovered by modern science. Quranic perception of parting sky from the earth was purely based on ancient superstitious belief about our mysterious universe.

(17) The Universe is only 4,137 years old!

If we believe Quranic creation theory, or Biblical genealogy then, the age of this whole universe is less than five thousands year old. Islamic scriptures say that Allah has created this heaven and earth, from nothingness, within six days and after that He created Adam, the first human being; and Prophet Muhammad was the 90th descendant of Adam. According to calculation, considering 30 years to be the age difference between two successive generations, Allah created this heaven and earth only 4,137 years ago. On the contrary, geological experts say that the earth is more than 4.5 billion years old. Question is who is right about it? Allah was right or the modern scientists are right?

B. Some Embryological contradictions/errors

Man is Created From Clotted blood(?)

Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the clot a little lump (fetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. [Quran-23:14]

(Bengali translations of the Quran read: “Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran)

• Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned… [Quran-75:38]

• Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood [Quran-96:2]

There are serious scientific problems here.

A blood clot can not grow into anything. This idea came from the Greeks. Aristotle erroneously believed that humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. The Quran’s assertion on the clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood which is seen to emerge (much of which comes from the mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarriage. Since Prophet Muhammad had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.

Modern science tells us that the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to the birth; hence there are no hard-and-fast boundaries of stages as the Quran described. The Quran described 4 stages which match exactly with Galenic description of the development of the human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).

Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore of Canada, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran tells us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we human have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis.

Also, the idea of saying: “made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statues (Moorthy) out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of a layman.

Actually, what is very interesting about Quranic so called science are: Qur’anic scientific verses matches with Aristotle and Galenic theories of Embryology and Ptolemic Geo-centric theory of Astronomy which were prevailing almost thousand years before the arrival of qur’an. HOWEVER, ALL THESE THEORIES WERE PROVEN MOSTLY WRONG BY MODERN SCIENCE.

Quran foretold life from WATER

Let us find out from what Quran predicted origin of life from water. The Hindu scripture Veda (8000 B.C.) described origin of Earth and life from WATER of the SEA. The Great Greek Philosopher and Scientist THALES (640-546 B.C.) was the first Human to theorize that, Everything in this Universe was created from WATER OF THE SEA. Problem was, Thales could not provide any scientific proof. After that, ARISTOTLE (384-322 B.C.), the pupil of Plato and Tutor of Alexander the Great, concluded: “Because of the fact that, Plants & Animal body contains plenty of WATER and life needs WATER that was why THALES thought WATER WAS THE ORIGIN OF LIFE”. Therefore, Mankind did not have to wait until 7th century for Allah to say importance of WATER for life.

HONEY as the medicine

Wish full Islamists demand that Quran predicted Honey as the good medicine. Honey although it is not a great medicine by today’s context, was used by Ancient people as medicine and food for tens of thousands of years. Physicians of Pharaohs, the Kings pf Egypt, used to prescribe Honey for diseases. In pre-Islamic Arab, PAGANS widely used HONEY as medicine. In India, Ayurbedic medicine widely used HONEY as the ingredients of medicine thousands of years before the arrival of Qur’an. Honey was known as ‘Grandma’s Medicine’ throughout the Ancient World for thousands of years.

EVOLUTION VS. RELIGIOUS CREATION THEORY

Some Islamists often try to ridicule the theory of evolution in order to protect the obvious fallacies of the creation theory of religion. Most Islamists and orthodox religionists of other religions try to discard evolution theory. Interestingly, however, some of them also make futile attempts to explain the compatibility of religious creation theory with the theory of evolution! This is, of course, a hypocrisy; and a totally impossible and weird dream by those Islamists.

EVOLUTION is the greatest triumphs of human discovery. Evolution is not a peripheral subject but the central organizing principle of all biological sciences today. So no one ignorant of evolution can understand science. Secondly, evolution is as well documented as any phenomenon in science, as strongly as the Earth’s revolution around the sun rather than vice versa. Therefore, we can call evolution a “Fact”. Today’s biological sciences are directly propagating on the basis of evolution theory of Darwin.

For the last 100 years or so, the galloping advancement of science, particularly the life science, is purely on the basis of Darwin THEORY OF EVOLUTION and definitely not on the basis of CREATION THEORY. Science does not believe in CREATION theory and Religion does not believe in EVOLUTION theory. Truth is, if Religion wants to mix-up with evolution then, we shall have to consider Adam as Ape-like Neanderthal or Homo-erectus early human, and not a perfect human having all the intelligential qualities, as the Bible or Quran described.

Here in this Verse, Allah Challenges People: Who Can Tell Whether the Conceived is Male or Female (?)

• Verily the knowledge of the Hour is With God (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He who knows what is in the wombs of mothers…. [Quran-31:34]

Who does not believe the fact that, actually mankind can predict very accurately (99.5%) when rain will fall and can predict (99.8%) the sex of the child inside a mother’s womb? Scientists also predict that, in the next five years weather predictions will be successfully correct almost 100%. Perhaps Allah could not imagine this.

C. Historical blunders in Quran

In several Suras the Qur’an confuses Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram which is about 1400 years off.

“At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: “O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! “O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!” [Sura:19:27-28]

And Mary, the Daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, and We breathed into (her body) of our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord, and of His revelations, and was one of the devout (servants). [Sura:66:12]

Allah copied draconian code of law from the ancient king Hammurabi!

Hammurabi, the King of Babylonia, Mesopotamia (2900 B.C.) gave the low: Killing for revenge, i. e., “life for life, hand for hand, eye for eye, ears for ears, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal.”

And the Allah’s law in Qur’an [5:45] says: “life for life, hand for hand, eye for eye, ear for ear, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal.”

What is the difference between the code? Don’t we see any similarities between the judgment of King Hammurabi (a human), and Omnipotent Allah? Here in this decree of judgment, who probably copied from whom? Was not the Allah (which was Muhammad himself) copied from that Kaffir Hammurabi and sold it in the name of his imaginary Allah?

D. Some samples of utterly unethical verses in Quran

(1) Sex with slave girls

“Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor…” [QURAN - 70:22-30]

This verse shows that Muslim men were allowed to have sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls.

QURAN 23:5-6:

“…who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them…”

Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.

QURAN - 4:24:

“And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall’s English translation of the Quran).

QURAN - 33:50:

“Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;…”

This verse is for Muhammad. Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.

The above verses are only a few I have mentioned out of numerous such verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical matter than having sex with slave girls? Allah (SBT) graciously allowed Muslims to have sex with slave girls. Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely used to have sex with their slave girls. Islamic apologists try to make the truth foggy by their wishful excuse that, actually Allah meant to say, “Muslims can have sex with slave girls after marrying them”. Problem is after the slave girl is married by a Muslim man, how in the world Allah or any sane person can still call that wife (slave-wife) as the slave girl? Does a slave girl never change her title even after she is married?

Many erudite Islamic pundits emphatically claim that Allah sent Quran as the super guidance for not only Muslims, but for all mankind. My questions to them are as follows:

a) Could you tell us in which country on earth this super guidance is followed?

b) Could you tell us if you find some man in any civilized country having sex with his slave girl, what will be your conclusion about that guy?

c) Should all human kind follow this unethical Quranic guidance to day?

(2) Hilla Marriage-A curse, shame, and humiliation for women

So if a husband Divorces his wife (irrevocably), he can not, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and he has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite; provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by God [Quran-2:230, Yousuf Ali].

Sahi Bukhari: #564:

Syed ibne ukair..Aisha (ra) narrated that wife of Rifakurzi told to the apostle of God that (because) my husband Rifa has divorced me I married another man named Abdur rahman ibne kurzi but I want to go back to my former husband. Then Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told—if you want to go back to your former husband you must have sex with Abdur Rahman and then if he divorce you then you can go to your former husband, otherwise it can not happen.

My dear honorable readers how do you like these above Quranic verse and sahi hadith? Are they sounding ethical to at all? After reading the above holy verse#2:230—any elementary student will agree with me that, Qur’an and Hadith strongly and clearly commands for Hilla marriage to purify the divorced wife to be taken back by the former husband. The irony is, how can this Hilla marriage do the purification of an innocent divorced wife? Who is at fault, in the first place, in this scenario of a hasty divorce? Quite obviously it was the husband who had made the mistake. Then, why in the world poor wife has to be punished (sleep with another strange man) for the crime she did not commit? Because, of all merciful Allah said so in the Holy Qur’an, Period. What a compassionate judgment from our Merciful Allah!

(3) Adoption in Islam was prohibited by Allah

Islam prohibits adopting children, Period. Adoption in the technical sense is not allowed in Muslim Shriah law. This is because Allah does not like this gesture of adopting orphan children. So Allah commanded his prophet to marry Zainab Bint Jahsh in order to abolish pagan custom (Fatawa al-Imam).” Al-sabuni states,

“As to Zainab Bint Jahsh, the Messenger of Allah married for no higher wisdom than to abolish the heresy of adoption (A-sabuni).”

It follows from this revelation that the adopter may marry the ex-wife of his adopted son and vice-versa.

“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but [he is] God’s Messenger and the Seal of the Prophets. God is Aware of everything!” [Sura al-Ahzab 33:40]

“We married her off to you so that there would be no objection for believers in respect to their adopted sons’ wives once they have accomplished their purpose with them. God’s command must be done!” [Sura al-Ahzab 33:37]

Thus Prophet Muhammad married Zainab in order to provide a good example of what the All-wise legislator was seeking to establish by way of rights and privileges for adoption.

In the verse (33:37) there is stated a particular purpose for this revelation and action of Muhammad. It is not for himself, but it is for the future of the Muslim community. It is so that in future there may not be a problem if anybody (father-in-law) wants to marry the divorced wife of an adopted son. “We permitted you to marry her so that it may hence be legitimate and morally blameless for a believer to marry the wife of his adopted son.” It is a mystery why in the world any father-in law will need to marry his adopted son’s wife which is extremely unethical.

Pre-Islamic Arab Custom: Adoption of orphan/helpless child was a very popular and moral practice amongst pre-Islamic Arabs. By adopting orphan/helpless child, they used to consider adopted child as their own. And they used to pass onto them the adopter’s genealogy and name, his investment of them with all the rights of the legitimate son including that of inheritance and the prohibition of marriage on grounds of consanguinity. I don’t know, how in the world Allah could dislike such noble deeds. I am not sure what percentage of Muslims actually knows this divine law. I do admit that I never knew this and, I was stunned when I first learnt this from a real Mullah. How and why was this noble custom among human being prohibited? Only Merciful Allah knows it!

E. Self-contradictory Quranic verses

Which one is correct:

• There is no Compulsion in religion…. [Quran-2:256]

OR

• Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility. [Quran-9:29]

• Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush…. [Quran-9:5]

• When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads…. [Quran-47:4]

• And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith. [Quran-2:191]

Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet, punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, death penalty.

F. Meaningless Recitation of Quranic verses

Millions of devoutly fanatical and gullible Muslims (Arabs and non-Arabs) recite (parroting) Quranic verses at least 5 times daily. Strange thing is non-Arab Muslims do not understand the meaning of a single word at all. Yet, unlike any others, Muslims recite their Quran like ‘Tantor Montor’ or ‘Abra-ka-dabra’ of a magician, or like “Mantro” of a witch hunter. From the very childhood brainwashing, these Muslims were taught that reciting Holy Quran even without understanding any meaning is the best practice of worshipping Allah and can earn unlimited blessings from Allah. Therefore, these Islamic Zombies recite Quranic verses with sweet melodious voice daily, and they will also recite Quranic verses during their daily five time prayers. Even western educated highly qualified devout Muslims have no qualm or shame that they do not really understand what they are reciting from the Qur’an.

Among the Muslim majority nations—there is a special and very prestigious degree awarded by Madrasshas called “Hafez” to religious student who has memorize entire Qur’an, of course, without understanding the meaning of anything. These so called genius ‘Hafezes’ regarded as the best and highly pious Muslims, even though, these Islamic robots hardly understand anything of Quran! Annually, all Muslim nations will stage ‘Hafez-competition’ in which many Hafezes will compete to perform their better recitation (like a well trained and tamed parrot) and best award will be given to the winners of this hilarious competition.

Their superstitious belief in Quran is so strong that some unscrupulous Mullahs even sell Quranic verses as disease-curing medicine in the form of ‘bullets’ they call it ‘Tabiz’. And this practice of Quranic medicine is very much flourishing business in most Muslim majority nations. Because of these erroneous and superstitious belief systems among the Muslims, quack medical practices and bogus Sufi saints (Pir, Fakir, dervish and Allah’s agents or religious ascetic or mendicant wonder workers) are prolific & flourishing who by their cunning tactics of deception randomly plunders the hard-earned wealth from those millions of gullible poor and rich Muslims.

Funny thing is, they will recite Quranic verses (while praying) which actually dictate prohibition of some deeds; but they never follow the scriptural dictum and practice the same prohibited deeds anyway. Because they did not get the actual message, since they simply did not understand the meaning of the verse. On the other hand, say, they will recite the verses (with melodious songs) that dictate to kill or cut the neck of non-Muslims but (fortunately) they will not cut the neck of non-Muslims since they did not understand a word of it. Or, the Imam in the Mosque will recite verses that actually describe menstruation (women’s monthly physiological period) is illness (?) and prohibition of sexual act during that period. Interestingly, the Imam will do this strange recitation for the Muslim congregation comprised of men and women—and they all will utter “Ameen” in a chorus like some tamed parrots. Such is their blind belief in Islamic Qur’an.

Great source of this utopia of Quranic science!!!

The primary source of the sudden utopia of these crazy Islamic science discoveries in Quran was the EUREKA by Maurice Bucaille.

MAURICE BUCAILLE

Who was Maurice Bucaille? Was he a world famous scientist? Or, Was he a Nobel laureate? Or, was he an authority in theology, Embryology, or Astronomical science?

ANSWER IS NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Maurice Bucaille was an ordinary French Physician and lived in Saudi Arabia as an expatriate doctor to Saudi Royal family. He was not a better doctor than any of those hundreds of Bangladeshi or Indian expatriate Physician working in Saudi Arabia. But because, he was the Physician for Saudi King family he developed a special relation with Saudi King. To keep religious trade (Dharma Bebosha) booming, Saudi king asked him to write a book highlighting Qur’anic sciences for which the King offered him $6 million dollars. Clever French Doctor wrote the book “The Bible, The Quran and Science”, got $ 6 millions and got another $ 2 millions by selling his book (according to Dr. Campbell). This book was sold in Islamic World like a hot cake. It was told that, this doctor distorted the actual translation of Holy Qur’an by intentional/selective choosing of various meanings of Arabic words in order to match his theory of scientific explanation.

DR. WILLIAM F CAMPBELL

Who is Dr. William F. Campbell?

William Campbell is an American Physician who was an expatriate doctor for the family of the King of Tunisia for 20 years. After learning about the book of Dr. Bucaille, he wrote a book of 300 pages categorically rebutting Dr. Bucaille’s book. I urge readers to read Dr. Campbell’s book and see for themselves.

Conclusion

The contradictions I have illustrated in this article are only some samples, and of course, not exhaustive of the list. Quran is replete with them. As I mentioned earlier, all most all Quranic verse are self-explanatory. That is, when a verse is read, it gives a certain picture of the situation in which or, a particular circumstance due to which a particular verse was written down. It’s language of expression (no matter in which language) is very plain and simple. By reading a Quranic verse—one can easily see the inner-point/meanings, as to why and what actually Islamic Allah wanted to tell. As far I know, earlier translated Qurans (e.g. Maulana Yousuf Ali, Maulana Mahiuddin Khan, Maulana Fazlur Rahman Munshi and many others) were fairly sincere in their work of translation of original Arabic Quran. In those translated Quran, nobody claimed any trace of modern science. Since the “Urekha” created by Maurice Bucaille, our educated mullahs (not real mullahs) started discovering lots of science in Quran. Recently, some real educated Mullahs translated Quran with pick & choose word meanings from original Arabic Quran. They find alternate word meanings and choose the word which matches their intended purpose of explaining modern science. But they forgot that, actual scenario/circumstances of the Ayats do not at all match their wishful explanation.

In Bengali society there is a proverb: “Ka baalte Kalikatta buz’en” (you understand Calcutta when ‘C’ is uttered). But in this subject of Quranic interpretation, wishful Mullahs make “Ka” not just (only) Kalikatta, they can make Bombay, Madras, Delhi, Karachi, London, New York and what not by ‘Ka’. They can make almost anything to make a good match to Allah’s saying. And they do not even care whether people can swallow it or not.

Finally, I maintain my assertion that Qur’an possesses many contradictions/scientific flaws, ethical, historical and logical blunders and of course ample inconsistencies and redundancies. Yet, wishful apologists will never see what we can see, because of this great saying mentioned below:

“The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.” -Oliver Wendell Holmes.

Syed Kamran Mirza was born in a Muslim family of Bangladesh. After having Ph.D. in Biological science he worked as a teacher in the University in Bangladesh for a period of 12 years, now lives in USA. He is the author of the book, “Roots of Islamic Terrorism” published in 2004. And also authored more than 200 articles scrutinizing in various aspects of Islam, some of which have been published in the reputed journals. He can be reached at Mirza.syed@gmail.comVN:F [1.4.6_730]You have to login to rate the postplease wait...Rating: 1.8/5 (11 votes cast)Share and Enjoy:

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1. 1 Abul Kasem Posted December 20, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Link

This is a classic gem from SKM.

According to my estimate there are at least two hundred contradictory verses in the Qur’an.

Perhaps, the most hilarious contradictory verses are these:

2:259 says Allah spoke to an ordinary person. 4:165 says Allah spoke directly to Moses. Contradiction: 42:51 says Allah never speaks directly to a human; He speaks either from behind a veil or through a messenger.

The Qur’an is funny, to say the least.

Thanks to SKM for highlighting the gross inaanities of the holiest Book of Islam.

To Syed Kamran Merza, you have researched and compiled almost all the the anti-Quran points and think you nailed it. As a matter of fact most of the points are so erroneously presented in order to mislead people who don’t have in depth knowledge. However with little common sense and little bit study of Quran, most of the points can be answered by any ordinary person. I’m so tempted to give reply all your allegations point by point. However I don’t have enough time like you. I’ll reply one point today, and touch the rest in different posts whenever I get time. In this post, I would like to touch the allegation against the inheritance law. By reading this it seems to me that somebody is trying to solve a mathematical equation but does not know the basic rule of mathematics. Your first example: When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate.

I’m surprised how the basic rule of equation is ignored in this analysis. Let’s look at it applying basic rule of math. For example a deceased leaves $5000 behind. According to the inheritance law this asset will be divided using inheritance law in the following order:

(2/3)X + (1/3)X + (1/8)X = $5000.

Now solving the equation by getting the value of X, the daughters are getting $2962.96, parents $1481.48 and the wife $555.55.

Why are you analyzing adding up all the fractions ignoring the asset value, which must be the constant amount to be divided.

If you know (and you must know) the amount or asset to be divided, no calculation should be difficult to understand. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 1.0/5 (1 vote cast)

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Seif Turki's Reply: March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am

@saj, You are forcing the answer using simple Algebra, but according to your wrong caculations the daughters end up with almost 3000 which is 3/5 of the inheritance and not 2/3 as stipulated by the Aya. Nice try but stupid VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)

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Saj's Reply: May 19th, 2010 at 12:53 am

This post seems to be bit strange. I’m not sure if you are questioning the inheritance law or the rule of math equation. The equation is set to get 2/3 of $5000 for daughters, but you seem to be questioning the output was actually 3/5 of $5000!!! If this is the case, you should say the rule of math equation doesn’t actually work, not the inheritance law. I can see why you are confused. The fraction values of 2/3 and 3/5 are very close. 2/3 = 0.6666 and 3/5 = 0.6. The difference in the output of the equation is 0.06 and you probably know it happens due to the rounding to make it work with our currency system. As our currency system is limited to 1 of 100th of a decimal point, we are forced to round after two decimal positions. If you hate quranic inheritance law, then set it aside and consider any other non-islamic inheritance law of any country. You still will have problem deviding everything using math only. If the combination of math and our currency system fails to devide any cash amount precisely, it doesn’t mean the law fails. A law never states to use only math to implement the stated solution. You could use math and/or any other tools and reasonings to apply the solutions as stated in the corresponding law. Also note, the inheritance law is not only for deviding cash, it may also be applied to devide any assets among inheritors. I posted some scenarios in one of my earler posts. Please read my post in response to one of a readers’ reply for article 19.

well some of these contradictions are so so very bad. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)

[Reply] 3. 3 Dr. D. M. Posted December 21, 2008 at 3:18 am | Link

Dear Authors,

Thank you for nice informative articles. Earlier I did not know all of these about islamic books. One day I saw the a tag behind a car. It was written on the tag of one islam-watch/Jihad-watch site. The driver of that car had a long beard similar to the beard of a radical mullah. I thought it must be for promoting islam. I became curious and checked the website. Then I found very informative articles like yours. It was an eye opener. Earlier I knew and experienced that islamic minded people are rigid, conservative, and they do not want to adapt with modernity. They explain everything using islam and quran. Even the Ph.D. degree holders doing postdoctoral research in USA also do that. After reading your articles I became enlightened. I read the Quran and Hadith, and understood the root cause of the problems in islamic countries, and the problems created in the world by islam, and by islamists. Thank you all.

I think Madrasa students and the huzurs can learn a lot from this article. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 2.6/5 (5 votes cast)

[Reply] 5. 5 Truthseeker Posted December 22, 2008 at 12:07 am | Link

Madrasa Students and Huzurs are not interested. Many higher degree holders from islamic countries are not interested to know this truth about islam. First, they become very angry if you say anything negative about islam, even if its logical. They told me they are not allowed to discuss this, and Allah will take care of them. From 1926 to 1936, there was a literary movement at Dhaka University, called “Budhhir Mukti” . Abul Hossain, Kazi Abdul Odud, Kazi Abdul Kadir, Abul Fazal, Kazi Motahar Hossain, Khan Bahadur Abdur Rahman Khan, Anwar Hosssain etc were the main people behind this noble mission. Then conservative muslims objected and created troubles for these freethinkers. And these free thinkers had to beg pardon publicly for their free thinking movement. Under threat, these freethinkers such as Abul Hossain, Kazi Abdul Odud etc left east pakistan (east bengal) and went to West Bengal. They spent rest of their life in west bengal and did their literary work. Unfortunately today’s Bangladesh is more intolerant and society is radicalised. So, the people are in the religious blackhole. There is no “Mukti” for the people under the influence of the religion. Kazi Abdul Odud, and Abul Hossain left east pakistan (east bengal) for their own dignity and “MUKTI”. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 2.3/5 (3 votes cast)

[Reply] 6. 6 supa Posted December 22, 2008 at 4:37 am | Link

With all due respect, I disagree with Truthseeker. Most of the people are interested to know the truth, but the society and media denies that. People are relentlessly fed lies which are portrayed as truth. A child doesn’t become a terrorist by birth, but it becomes one through a process. I honestly feel that a lot of Madrasa students and Huzurs are hungry for such information but no one is helping them. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 2.0/5 (4 votes cast)

[Reply] 7. 7 Avijit Posted December 23, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Link

This is one of the valuable pieces of SKM in scrutinizing Quran. He categorized most of the visible contradictions mentioned in Quran. According to AK’s estimate there are at least two hundred contradictory verses in the Qur’an. I suggest you to enlist all of them. We will put them in our site.

I would like to point out one thing. It is nice to see the refutation of Maurice Bucaillie in this piece and the mention of Dr. William F Campbell’s book. However, modern apologists are no longer held bent on Bucaillie or Moore, rather they found their new Gurus - Zakir Nayek and harun Yahaya. I hope SKM and AK will focus on them in future.

I will recommend the following book of Physicist Taner Edis to tackle modern day apologists:

An Illusion of Harmony: Science And Religion in Islam by by Taner Edis. :

Then its a very good news. All the people will be enlightened including knowledge hungry hujurs!!

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[Reply] 9. 9 Syed K. Mirza Posted December 25, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Link

To all the readers:

My thanks to all the readers especially those who kept their valuable comments. Yes, Koran has no shortage of contradictions and unethical stuff in it. It takes only inquisitive minds and open eyes to catch them. Avijit’s great wish of making the list of contradictions even longer has been accepted by us. We will try to add more and more ridiculous stuff from the Koran in our list.

Surprisingly, those blind believing Muslims (both illiterate and highly educated alike) hardly can detect or see these Quranic contradictions. Everything they see in Quran are very “rosy and super-divine” according to them. It’s mindboggling why they fail to see the truth about Koran and Islamic teachings. May be, it is their fear of dreadful Islamic heaven and sheer lusts and greed for the unlimited sexual pleasures in the Islamic heaven.

SKM

PS. BTW, I would be thankful to anybody who will agree to translate my article in Bangla or in any other world languages. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 2.3/5 (3 votes cast)

[Reply] 10. 10 supa Posted December 27, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Link

One more point: the first human beings according to holy Bible and Quran, - Mr. Adam and Ms. Eve (or bibi hawa), - were nether Muslims, nor Christians, nor Jews. In fact, they did not belong to any religion. This proves that all the religions today are man-made (according to holy Bible and Quran).

@supa, You’ve simplified your case to a great extent to rest your case. The fact of the matter is Adam and Eve knew very well who their creator was as they expecienced Him like no other human. So for them it was impossible to be skeptic and atheist like you. They got knowledge and laws how to worship their creator and to live their life in the earth. These are the laws which we call religion and this is the only religion, which has been accepted by God. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)

[Reply] 11. 11 Dilshad Posted December 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm | Link

I believe MR. or MRS. Syed is competly wrong. I am not a musliman, but I have read the OLDEST Quran which is in Istanbul. As people say Old is Gold, and there are no errors and it does match science. Now the citations which were given by Syedji, it could be that this is a Mullah Quran which is absolutely wrong. Allah’s Quran is the most accurate and if needed proof I would suggest at any Arabic book shop or even search of online a pure copy of the oldest Quran from Istanbul and understanding Arabic will help better understand not only Islam but again Quran itself! The citations which are given by Syedji, are from the extremist Mullahs who have gone astry in wrong directions. For the proof of my claim it has been proven that Quran has been twisted by some fanatic Mullahs just to create chaos for their own benefit. So I would request people to read the actual thing. IF you have any questions my email is dilshad40@hotmail.com VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 2.6/5 (5 votes cast)

[Reply] 12. 12 Syed K. Mirza Posted January 1, 2009 at 7:03 am | Link

Dear Dilshad,

When you are not even able to identify the sex of a muslim name “Syed” how in the world you can identify which Quran is right or wrong? Do you think, 1 billion plus Muslims should rush to the Museum of Istanbul to find the correct Quran? Do you think the most original authors of Quranic translation like: Maulana Yusuf Ali, Pickthal, Shakir, et al are petty Mullahs who translated Quran incorrectly and have gone astray? Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Kathir, Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizi, Imam gazzali, all those original and most famous Muslim Islamic scholars are simply twisted Quran to create chaos for their own benefit? Where did you get this bullshit idea man? You should be ashamed of making such silly and nonsensical comment. Why don’t you do one thing? Remove millions of Quran translated by these above Islamic scholars from the entire world, and tell all Muslims to run to Islanbul for corrected Quran. Tell Saudi King to dump all their Quran and run to Islanbul or to you (the Islamic pundit) to learn correct Quran. You must be an idiot islamists no doubt about it.

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[Reply] 13. 13 sahin Posted February 7, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Link

dear muslim brothers, tell me, you should believe that anybody comes tomorrow with any holy book and telling to you ” i got the revelation from the God and this is the only holy book that God has given to me”? tell me you should believe? the answer is no…..But in case of Bible, it is written by more than 40 people around 1500 years, in different continents of the world.All are written the same things.The summary of all things is one.So the authenticity of the Bible is very high.If there is no proofs or eye witnessess,how can we believe that it the holy book and it is the more authentic book?But Bible is very authentic book…..

Mr. If you believe islam has no reply for your elementary comments and if you have the gut to stand infront of any islamic scholar on a debate you will have a convincing answer ALLAH SUBHANEHU WETEALA also said WHEN TRUTH COMES AGAINST FALSE HOOD FALSE HOOD PERISHES FOR FALSE HOOD BY ITS NATURE IS BOUND TO PERISH. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 3.4/5 (5 votes cast)

[Reply] 15. 15 taaseen Posted March 8, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Link

Your paper is based on translation. And translation of quran is never accepted as Quran. Nevertheless, you should have followed one transletters translation rather than moving from one transletter to another transletter as it suites you to criticize quran. I could have pointed out how you distorted the meanings but I dont have the patience to do so, so I point only one. You can refer to Dr. Zakir Naiks lecture to correct your misconception. (3) Fallacies on Sun-set and Sun-rise (?) Please note that He (Zulqarnine) found it (sun) going down the muddy spring. As it appears to Zulqarnine. Then again He found it rising on a people…. Again as it apears to him, Allah is not saying that sun sets on water or rises etc. etc. May Allah guide you to right path. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 3.0/5 (6 votes cast)

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Mithoon's Reply: May 1st, 2009 at 11:43 pm

@taaseen,

Please never mention Dr. Zakir Naek’s reference. He is nothing but a fraud…a great liar and obviously a businessman who capitalizes the ignorance of poor people.

i am posting out a link here.

http://www.sachalayatan.com/shikkhanobish/21894

you can find there how Zakir Naek lied to divert the mind of the illiterate people. i think, to make a clear view about Zakir Naek, you should go through the link. he is nothing but a fraud. This link shows 28 lies shamelessly made by him. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 3.0/5 (4 votes cast)

[Reply] 16. 16 I AM Posted September 17, 2009 at 11:52 pm | Link

Dear Syed K .Mirza.

I am thrilled at such revellations and your audacity.

You see in ancient India the Vedanta Philosophy an ancient religion on earth - the first one to talk on God and the human beings did not become popular mainly because of its Liberalism and because of its dryness and inablity to rouse fanaticism in the human mind and that brings our hatred on anything except itself.

So Religion (except in Vedanta philosophy) had to be designed by man and thus they found by experience that 3 important principles should exist for a religion to exist namely:

a BOOK; a PROPHET or a teacher or a great leader; and a TRUTH monopoly to influence people that it alone is the truth.

Hence you find all religions today have these principles and with one purpose to: create a belief of the unknown and create funding principles for their existence.

Why must a “god” need to be protected by humans when he has all the powers to be?

These have been going on till today and some intelligent ones will very soon discover that a “GOD” which is an idea of mind is no longer needed for life. instead a vibrant and healthy brain for a good quality life on this earth.

To enjoy the fruits and joy of life one must have the wisdom of his Self. The awareness of our existence becomes clear only when we have a good brain and not a good belief.

The sence of “being”.. is first… before you take a belief. This belief principle has been put and cultured into our brains since childhood by the environment and traditions.

All scientific creations of man for mans joy life are discovered by the developed and healthy brains and not by some silly ulamas or priests, etc.

The Muslims and Christians in fact copied the idea of congregations of believers from the ancient Indians who survived on the financial turnovers.

Observe that the Varanasi river temples are now becoming dilapidated due to depletion of funds. Some day in the future this fate will soon occur in Mecca (visiting of the Ka’aba) with the development of the brain in man.

Man should not get buried in the books of the past on “god or beliefs” instead should find books to discover his greater potentials of being a human being to deliver his best efforts to mankind, other living creatures and himself.

I am grateful to all who: designed the planes, discovered the medicines and hospital technologies to lessen, cure the pain of man and creatures, those wonderful people who brought new improvements to all sciences related humans, creatures, environment and all and sundry to make this earth a wonderful place to live.

my faith says that there is not even a single mistake in quran but by reading this article my mind says that these are clear mistakes n yet i have confirmed also by reading 1st mistake about creation of heavens n eart told by quran but still my faith says that there isn’t any contradiction in quran. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)

[Reply] 19. 19 saj Posted December 11, 2009 at 1:32 am | Link

To Syed Kamran Mirza, I got some time today to reply few more of your allegations about your so called numeric contradictions in the Quran: 1) You mentioned: There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations. How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth? 1. Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 7:54] 2. Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 10:3] 3. He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 11:7] 4. He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days [Quran 25:59] The above verses clearly state that God (Allah) created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated: 1. Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ? [Quran-41:9] 2. He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS… [(Quran- 41:10] 3. So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and… [Quran-41:12] Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 4 (for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days.

—————————————————————- My Response:

For example, I asked my builder how long it took to build my house. He replied, three months. I asked could you give me exact breakdown of the work you did and how long they took. He gave the breakdown as below: 1) one month to lay the foundation of the building 2) 15 days to build the structure above ground 3) 10 days to build each bedroom for the five bedroom house 4) 15 days to do the first floor tiles 5) 15 days for second floor tiles 6) 15 days to do the roof and shingles If my mind is not foggy, I won’t say how it is possible, if I add all these it comes like this: 30 + 15 + 5 X 10 + 15 + 15 + 15 = 140 days. This is more than three months (90 days). However, yet if I’m stupid enough to ask him this question, he would’ve explained, all these works are not done sequentially, rather many of them were done in parallel manners. As for example, he was working on first three bedrooms simultaneously, i.e. one of his teams working on the first bedroom, the other team working on the second and so forth. That way if counted the work done on each bedroom, it took 10 days each, however because his team was working on multiple bedrooms simultaneously, all rooms were completed no more than twenty days. Same way, while some of his teams working the house, others were busy building roof and fixing sidings on the external walls . That’s why although the house was delivered to the owner in three months, the breakdown of the work done was actually 140 days. Same manner when Allah says: 4. Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ? [Quran-41:9] 5. He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS… [(Quran- 41:10] 6. So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and… [Quran-41:12]

It’s true that the whole creations were completed in six yaums (not days as translated), if you breakdown in details it actually took eight yaums.

2. Your other allegation: Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years (?) • Verily a day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. [Quran 22:47] • To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your reckoning [Quran 32:5] • The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years. So, which one is it ? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years? [Quran-70:4]

—————————————————————– My Response:

The Arabic word used in all these three verses is yaum, which, besides meaning a day also means a long period, or an epoch. If you translate the word yaum correctly as ‘period’ there will be no confusion.

a) The The verse from Surah Hajj reads as:

“Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! but Allah will not fail in His promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning”. [Al-Qur’an 22:47]

In this case it mentions, when the unbelievers asked to hasten the punishment the Qur’an says Allah will not fail in His promise. Verily a period in the sight of Allah is like a thousand years of your reckoning.

b) The verse from Surah Al-Sajdah says:

“He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) go up? To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning”. [Al-Qur’an 32:5]

This verse indicates that a period required for all the affairs to go up to Allah (swt), is a thousand years of our reckoning.

c) A verse from Surah Al-Maarij says:

“The angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years”. [Al-Qur’an 70:4]

This verse means that the period required for angels and the spirits to ascend unto Allah (swt) is fifty thousand years.

d) The period for two different acts need not be the same. For example if I say the period (yaum) required for me to travel to destination ‘A’ is one hour and the period required for me to travel to destination ‘B’ is 50 hours. This does not indicate that I am making two contradictory statements although one period (yaum) is 1 hour ant the other is 50 hours. VA:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 0.0/5 (0 votes cast)

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Abul Kasem's Reply: December 24th, 2009 at 1:35 am

@saj,

Here is my response to the inheritance inconsistencies:

In response to Saj’s equation on inheritance shares: Let us solve the equation. I shall use the variable as letter Y, instead of X, to remove the confusion that might arise with the multiplication symbol X. (2/3)Y + (1/3)Y + (1/8)Y = 5000 This can be reduced to (27/24)Y = 5000 We get Y = (24X5000)/27 = 4444.40 This is less than the total value of the inheritance, which, accordingly, was $5000.

The individual shares will now be as follows: 2X4444.4/3 = 2963 1X4444.4/3 = 1481 1X4444.4/8 = 551.6 This means, even though the distribution does up add up approximately 5000, individual shares are not precise to conform to the Qur’an.

Just think, if the total inheritance is merely $1.

In this case 2/3 of $1 = $0.67 1/3 of $1 = $0.33 Add them, it is already $1.00 So, how do we get 1/8, that is $0.125?

Obviously, by juggling, we can always fit an equation.

For example, we could even have an inheritance equation in this manner

(1-1/3)Y + (2/3)Y + (2-1/2)Y = 5000. The solution gives us Y = 1111.3 which is the manipulated value of the fund to conform to the mathematical law, because the original asset of $5000 cannot be precisely distributed according to the stipulated desire.

This means we are forced to reduce each person’s share.

But this is just a manipulation, it does not satisfy the fundamental of fractional addition: that is: (1-1/3)X5000+(2/3)X5000+(2-1/2)X 5000.

If you add, you get 22499.5 and not 5000. So, how does the balance that is 22499.5 - 5000 = 17499.5 come from?

I have cited this extreme example, when the fractions add up to more than unity. If, as per Saj, Allah’s law is correct, then we should be able to distribute $5000 as per the above example. But we cannot, because there is a shortfall in the fund.

O.K. here is how this mulla corrects Allah’s Qur’an to conform to human laws on arithmetic.

Please recall that in the example cited by the mulla, we found Y = 4444.40 Also note how the distribution is not precise to conform the Qur’an

Precisely, we may note that the Qur’anic arithmetic gives an excess of 1/8 = 0.125. So human mulla has applied a correction factor to all the fractional numbers set by Allah. This correction factor, in this case, is approximately 7/8. Here is how: (2/3)X(7/8) = 0.5834 (1/3)X(7/8) = 0.2920 (1/8)X(7/8) = 0.1094 Add them; it is approximately 1.00 (precisely 0.9844) The reason, why there is a very small difference is that the correction factor will be slightly different for each case, depending on their original fraction. But a common value of 7/8 yields a very satisfactory result for the purpose of demonstration.

To a gullible reader, bereft of precise knowledge of mathematics, this Islamic deception might seem to be very smart.

But I can say that this mulla has dug his own grave, he has conclusively proven that Allah is wrong in the Qur’an and human has to correct Him.

It needs a precise eye to discover this Islamic deception.

Readers, please double-check my calculations, and, if found incorrect, then inform me and I shall apologise for misleading you.

If the readers find my arithmetic correct, then they must acknowledge that the Qur’an is absolutely wrong in the precise fractional distribution of inheritance. AK VN:F [1.4.6_730] please wait... Rating: 1.0/5 (1 vote cast)

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saj's Reply: December 30th, 2009 at 3:17 am

@Abul Kasem,

I really appreciate your time in reading my post and spending so much time in preparing a nice rebuttal. When I was reading your post, it appears to me that you are expecting the Quranic inheritance laws to give you a math formula which should be able to give solution to the accuracy of billions of digits. You need to understand this is a law we are talking about, not a math formula. What is a law? A law is a set of guidance to solve a particular matter or a problem. In the justice system of any country, when a judge delivers a verdict, he needs to explain what law his verdict is based on. He cannot just decide whatever he likes. He needs to convince both the prosecutor and the defendant that his verdict is within the guideline of the corresponding law. Two judges can give two slightly different verdicts, but still both need stay within the defined guidelines of the corresponding law. So when the Quran gives inheritance law, it actually gives the guidance for the humanity to take care of the division of the assets among the inheritors. The asset can be anything ranging from cash or properties. Anything can be divided based on this guidance. For the sake of argument, in my rebuttal for SKM post, I only mention how a cash of $5000 can be divided. If you look at the inheritance law as purely a law, not math formula, you will not see any contradiction. Like any law, Quran is giving law for a people, who are intelligent enough to work it out if a guideline is provided. Because our currency system is limited to 1/100 of a dollar, it doesn’t mean that the inheritance law fails. The inheritors always can decide how few pennies here and there can be worked out. The brothers can agree that the sister needs more money and let her have few pennies or vice versa. My point is if the guidace is there, anything can be worked out using human intelligence. Hypothetically you can pose any problem, which in real life will never happen. You may say what if a deceased leaves only $1 and it needs to be divided using inheritance law among three brothers. At first glance it is impossible to do so in our currency system if you try to solve this using just pure math here. In this case, the judge may need to convert this $1 to something which can be divided in three pieces. He might ask all three brothers to decide on something which they all like and it should cost only a dollar. They might decide to buy a chocolate bar using this dollar and split it in three equal pieces. This is a hypothetical solution of a hypothetical problem, which in real life will never happen. However reason for bringing this up to show you that the inheritance law can be applied intelligently even to this silly imaginary problem. When you resolve the inheritance issue, you may need to use math, and/or mutual discussions among inheritors to resolve issue. However no matter what you do you need stick with to guidelines of the law. I guess it is worth to use another example to explain how the law works. For example a deceased leaves a daughter and a son and a house. Now this house needs to be divided between the son and the daughter. Without going too much detail, let’s assume the law states 2/3 is for the son and 1/3 is for the daughter. If it is a three storied house, the solution is instant: the brother gets two floors and the sister gets one. However if it’s a two story building instead, things are complicated. However with the inheritance law, there could be numerous solutions. With the law, the brother gets approximately 1.335 and the sister gets 0.665 portion of the house. You cannot use straight math in this case. However the judge still can offer numerous options within the guideline of the law and ask them to see which one suits them the most. Let’s see few such options: 1) The sister can pay 0.335 of the value of one floor to the brother and own whole floor. In this solution, the brother gets money for the value of 0.335 of a floor and both the brother and the sister own a floor each.

2) The brother can pay 0.665 of the value of a floor to the sister and can own the whole house

3) They can rent the whole house and split the rental income by 2/3 and 1/3

4) If the brother and the sister both leave together, they can live in one floor and rent it out the other. From the rental income, the brother will get 0.335 and the sister will get the 0.665 of the rental income. I want you to look closely on this scenario. It gives you an idea why the son gets more share than the sister. As you see the sister gets more rental income than brother although the brother is letting the sister to stay with him in his apartment. In Islamic law, it’s the brother’s responsibility to take care of the family, which may include his own family as well as his parents and younger and unmarried siblings. He cannot charge the sister in this case despite letting her stay with him and bearing all her expenses. As brother is already living in his inherited floor, he is entitled to only 0.335 of the other floor and the sister gets the rest and the sister doesn’t need to pay penny to the brother.

5) If none of the above solution works for them, then the judge needs to order to sell the house and divide the cash in due portion.

I tried to explain as clearly as possible to give you an understanding how the inheritance law works. I hope it answers your queries. Regarding the point of solving the decimals, it’s not responsibility for law to define. Human mind can work out this minute issue through discussion and still be content of the solution within the guideline of the law.

Thank you.

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Syed Kamran Mirza's Reply: December 24th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

@saj,

To Mr. Saj:

Date: 12-24-09

Re: Allah created earth by six or eight days!!!

You can not make people fool by your totally fallacious, convoluted, and deceptive explanations to save your Allah. The way you have tried to fool the readers, Allah did not say same way about his time-period of making Earth and Sky (heaven). Instead, Allah said his bogus making-time of earth and heaven in many different Chapters (Suras) in different times, and He never explained like the way you wanted to feed us your fallaciously convoluted logic. Allah used at least 5 (Five) different chapters (7:54, 10:3, 25:59, 11:7, and 41:9-12) to describe His weird method of making of Earth and Heaven. He never used the deceptive tricks that you wanted to use to make people fool. He simply said different things in different times!

Your builder will not tell you whole different things in different days, like your Allah said in Koran in five chapters. If you ask him about the time period that should require to make your house, builder will tell you just one possible time-period. Where in the Koran your Allah specified #s of days to make each item, like the way you did? Allah’s verses meant exactly what I stated in my article. In fact whole Koran is like this; Allah said different things in different times, only to satisfy some ancient Arab idiots. That is why Koran is loaded with all sorts of clear contradictions and plenty of errors in scientific, historical, political, ethical and social matters. Please read my entire article to learn about Koran.

Mr. Saj, just remember this old saying: “You can fool some people for sometimes; but you can never fool all people all the times.” Therefore, time has come for Muslims to admit errors and contradictions in Koran.

Question: How Allah’s making times fits with today’s scientific knowledge of making Earth and entire universe? Does Allah’s time-periods anyway fit cosmological time period of science today? Could you tell us from entire Koran if Allah ever said any form that—Earth moves? Please answer these questions.

By the way, why don’t you rebut other Koranic contradictions and scientific errors from my article? Please go ahead! I am ready to respond to you.

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saj's Reply: May 20th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

I hope the readers can read your first paragraph and judge how much intelligence is present in here. You basically attacked me and accusing me of fooling readers by giving deceptive and convoluted logic, but failed to explain why you think so. If you think only your logic is acceptable and any counter to this doesn’t have any weight, you may content yourself with such thought, but I don’t think any open minded reader will accept it as an acceptable attitude. You need to explain clearly why you think my rebuttal doesn’t hold ground. Just because you don’t agree with an argument can no way make it unacceptable or deceptive. If this is the case I can accuse you of deceiving readers with misleading logic as well. However I don’t want to approach this way. I’m not interested in fighting, rather want to involve in an intelligent discussion so that it can benefit us as well as the readers. The readers can judge between your post and my post and decide by themselves which one is more beneficial to them.

You Wrote: ————————————————————- Your builder will not tell you whole different things in different days, like your Allah said in Koran in five chapters. If you ask him about the time period that should require to make your house, builder will tell you just one possible time-period. Where in the Koran your Allah specified #s of days to make each item, like the way you did? Allah’s verses meant exactly what I stated in my article. In fact whole Koran is like this; Allah said different things in different times, only to satisfy some ancient Arab idiots.

My Response: ————————————————————- I’m not sure why you just dismissed my builder example without adequate explanation. Why do you think the builder can only give one number regarding his works on the house? His answer will certainly depend what information you are looking for. If you ask how long the builder will take to deliver the house, he will say 90 days. On the other hand when you ask how much work he will perform for billing purpose he will say 140 days. Let’s look at another example to explain this little more clearly. For example, you are trying to get a quote from two different builders. One builder tells you he can build the whole house in four months and the other builder says he can finish the same work in two months. Do you expect the second builder to charge you half the amount because he is taking half the time to finish the job? Absolutely not. Because when you ask about the billing matter, you will probably see both builders are charging for the same number of days. How? The first builder tells you he will have five people working for him for four months, so he charges 4 months (120 days) X 5 = 600 days. The second builder says he will have 10 people working for him for two months and he will charge for 2 months (60 days) X 10 = 600 days. The reason for giving this example is to make you understand that the reply regarding the number of days can be different based on the information you seek. So you cannot just say the builder’s answer will always be the same. If you want to ask about the time required of the delivery of your house he will answer one thing, but if you ask about the detail of his work for billing purpose his answer will be different.

I explained in my last rebuttal that in some verses Allah gives the period required to build heavens and the earth while in some other verses He tells about the details of His works. Please read those verses from the Quran directly instead of copying and pasting from some anti-Quran sources, whose only purpose is to twist and fabricate in order to malign Quran. Each of the first four verses you mentioned in your post just has one line statement regarding the yaum (time period) required to build heavens and earth. They simply state that Allah created heavens and the earth in six yaums. However in chapter 41 there are four verses regarding the creation of heavens and the earth and explain in detail of the time period required to create those. Verses 9 and 10 tell detail about the creation of earth. If you had problem understanding these verses, you should’ve read the footnote in which it explains that these two verses talk about the creation of a same series. Verse 9 tells about just the initial creation of the earth and the verse 10 goes in detail of completion of the creation which includes the creation of the earth from the very beginning to the end. Hence the four yaums, which is mentioned here actually indicate the total time periods for the creation of the earth from the very beginning to the end (which include make the earth habitable with water, vegetation etc.). There is one other thing is worth noting: in all four other chapters, the Quran mentions about heavens’ creation first and then that of earth. However in chapter 41, Quran talks about earth’s creation first and then the creation of heavens. If the creations were in any sequential manner, the order of the creations would be same in all the chapters. This clearly indicates there is no particular order in which the heavens and the earth were created, rather they were created simultaneously. It fully confirms our modern scientific knowledge about the creation of heavens and earth.

You Wrote: ————————————————————- Question: How Allah’s making times fits with today’s scientific knowledge of making Earth and entire universe? Does Allah’s time-periods anyway fit cosmological time period of science today?

My Response ————————————————————- I’ve already explained how the mentioning of creation of heavens and the earth in the Quran is perfectly conformity with the modern scientific knowledge. Now it’s your job to explain why you think it’s not the case. It is not a convincing answer at all by just saying that Allah actually said how you interpreted. You actually need to prove why you think your interpretation should be the only acceptable one.

Regarding your question about the time factor, I don’t see any contradiction either. I said again and again that the time mentioned here is yaum, which means a period, not a day as translated. I know where you come from with this. The Bible actually mentions six 24 hour days for these creations as it says each of those days contains a night and a day. However in Quran there is no mention of a day or night in the yaums. So a yaum can be any time period; it can be a day or a very long time period such as millions of years of earth time. Science doesn’t have any problem accepting this time period regarding the creations of heavens and earth.

You Wrote: ————————————————————- Could you tell us from entire Koran if Allah ever said any form that—Earth moves?

My Response: ————————————————————- I’ve replied this in my last post and also repeated it in my other post today. Please read and give your opinion on this.

My Response: ————————————————————- Thanks but no thanks. It is never a good idea to gather knowledge from somebody who doesn’t look at the matter with open mind and all his research directs only to propagate negativity of that substance. I love to acquire knowledge about Quran. I believe the best way it can be done by directly going to the source which in this case is the Quran itself. I welcome any opinion about a subject matter, but I also try to see the other side of the coin before I convince myself. I’m sorry to say your post doesn’t qualify to be source of any kind of knowledge to me. All these points are very common in anti-Quran and anti-Muslim websites. Many of them can be answered by just reading the Quran directly and understand the context of those verses. Some of them will require common sense and basic scientific knowledge.

You Wrote: ————————————————————- Mr. Saj, just remember this old saying: “You can fool some people for sometimes; but you can never fool all people all the times.”

My Response: ————————————————————- If you fail to establish your position with convincing logics, this saying should very well be applicable to you. You may be able to satisfy those people, who already closed up their minds and only want to hear what you say, but you will never be able to convince majority of the people.

You Wrote: —————————————————————- By the way, why don’t you rebut other Koranic contradictions and scientific errors from my article? Please go ahead! I am ready to respond to you.

My Response: ————————————————————- I already mentioned in my very first post that I would reply whenever I would get time and would do so few pieces at a time. As soon as I had some downtime, I posted my rebuttals. Please don’t assume that lack of my posting is due to lack of my knowledge in responding to your post, rather it is solely due to lack of my time. When I was reading your post I thought I had convincing replies for all your allegations, but unfortunately there is no quick and easy way to transmit my mind to the blog. I need to put them in writing to post them. I will certainly do so whenever I get opportunity. However I already have rebutted quite a few of your allegations. You don’t need to wait for the whole package before giving responses to my rebuttals. You should respond whatever I’ve covered so far. Please respond to the points without bringing your emotion in your post.

Thanks. Saj

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[Reply] 20. 20 saj Posted December 16, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Link

To Syed Kamran Mirza, let me reply some more of your allegations against Quran.

Your allegation: ————————————————————-: “It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.” (This they clearly meant for the Sun and Moon only). [Quran-36:40]

Above Quranic Ayat (36:40) is telling us that—Sun can not catch/overtake/collide with Moon …. Quran told us lots of sciences here. Where is the sun and where is the moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and moon neighbors to each other? If I walk in the streets of Dhaka, Bangladesh and my brother walks in the streets of Los Angeles, USA, shall we overtake/collide/catch each other?

My Response: ————————————————————————————- You yourself have replied the so called contradiction when you made the statement:

“If I walk in the streets of Dhaka, Bangladesh and my brother walks in the streets of Los Angeles, USA, shall we overtake/collide/catch each other?”

Bingo, well said. The very same way, the sun and the moon have two different orbits or paths and this is the reason they will never collide ( Yusuf Ali) or overtake (M.H. Shakir) each other. Where is the contradiction here?? It perfectly matches with the science as the “sun,” “moon,” “day” and “night” will remain separate phenomenon since the sun and moon travel in their own orbits and hence will never collide. If the sun and moon were not in their own “exact” orbits (55:5), the phenomenon of “day” and “night” would most certainly be affected.

Your Allegation: —————————————————————————————– In the Ayat above (36:39), Quran tells us that, moon gradually changes its shape and eventually (till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf) becomes very thin (wear off Moon) like dried date leaf (crescent- shaped). Only Mullahs can tell us how much sciences are in this Ayat!

My Response: —————————————————- Let’s see what the verse says: “And We have decreed set phases for the Moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere.”

The verse indicates “set phases for the moon.” You cannot absolutely say that the phase here actually means the physical shape of the moon. Rather a recent scientific discovery matches very well with this verse regarding the orbit of the moving moon. The Moon does not follow a regular orbit like the satellites of other planets. As it orbits the Earth, it sometimes moves behind it and sometimes in front. As it also moves with the Earth around the Sun, it actually follows a constant pattern resembling the letter “S” in space. This route, traced by the Moon in space, is described in the Qur’an as resembling an old date branch and does indeed resemble the twisted form of the date tree branch. Indeed, the word “urjoon” employed in the Qur’an refers to a thin and twisted date branch and is used to describe that part left after the fruit has been plucked. The way that this branch is described as “old” is also most appropriate since old date branches are thinner and more twisted. So when the moon finishes its one full rotation on its orbit, the orbit looks very close to an old date branch.

Your Allegation: —————————————————————– Quran never say any where in the whole Quran that, THE EARTH ROTATES. Quran maintained Geo-centric theory in every respect. Earth was considered center of the Universe. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation, because like humans Allah was also stuck with earth’s gravity. This Quranic verse below once more confirms that the EARTH is fixed and never moves. Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft¬Forgiving. [Q 35:41] My Response: —————————————————————————— You’ve mentioned “nowhere in the Quran Allah says the earth rotates”. Nor Quran anywhere says Earth is stationary. So according to your logic Quran says earth is fixed!!! If I say John is a good person but don’t say anything about Joe, according to your logic Joe is bad!!! How ridiculous logic is this! The verse you are referring to prove your point that Quran infers the earth is fixed: “ Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft Forgiving.” [Q 35:41] Where in the verse it says that the earth is the center of the universe and it doesn’t move? It’s very clear from the verse that Allah is holding everything it their respective place so that they don’t move away from each other. We know that all celestial bodies are revolving and rotating on their respective axis and orbits very precisely while maintaining safe distances from each other. They never come closer or go further from their appointed route. Allah is referring how they don’t move away from each other and He holds them in places. If He didn’t do this everything would vanish after a catastrophic destruction of the whole universe. Now let’s see what Quran actually says about the earth’s movement. In Al-Anbiya verse 33 Allah says, “It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all swim along, each in its rounded course.” I quoted these verses from a Turkish interpretation of Koran. In the interpretation, the footnote written below the verse Enbiya/33 is as follows: “Although only two celestial bodies are mentioned, it is stated through a verb tense which is used for more than two things that all of them swim in a separate orbit. It can be inferred from this that all celestial bodies, together with the Sun and Moon, move in an orbit unique to them”. This interpretation which is indeed applicable for the Anbiya/33 also applies to Yasin/40. Because, Arabic translation of the part translated as “all of them swim in an orbit” in both verses is exactly the same: “küllün fı felekiy yesbehun”. A verb tense which is used for more than two things obviously exists in both two verses. Look closely what these verse says, which is very striking. It is obviously emphasized in the verses that “night and day” also rotate in an orbit. The reference made to night and day in the Quran is always related to the Earth’s night and day. In other words, what is actually stated in both of these two verses is the fact that Earth also rotates in an orbit just like the sun and moon! For a moment, think about the movement of the earth in the space. While the earth is rotating around the sun, night and day which always and together exist above the earth also rotate in an orbit around the sun. From this perspective, the verses have an extremely subtle expression… Another thing implied by the narration of the swimming of the earth in an orbit in this way by referring to night and day may be related to around what the rotation of the earth is realized. In other words, night and day in the earth emerge owing to the sun. By stating “night and day also float in an orbit”, the verses may well be referring to the fact that this orbit is around the sun. As human beings we are looking for simple statement in the Quran regarding the earth’s movement, like the earth is just rotating or revolving. However when the supreme power God makes statement regarding anything it should be much more superior as these two verses demonstrate.

Reply against allegation against Inheritance law ———————————————————— In this post, I also would like to touch the allegation against the inheritance law. By reading this it seems to me that somebody is trying to solve a mathematical equation but does not know the basic rule of mathematics. Your first example: When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate.

I’m surprised how the basic rule of equation is ignored in this analysis. Let’s look at it applying basic rule of math. For example a deceased leaves $5000 behind. According to the inheritance law this asset should be divided in the following order:

(2/3)X + (1/3)X + (1/8)X = $5000.

Now solving the equation by getting the value of X, the daughters are getting $2962.96, parents $1481.48 and the wife $555.55.

Why are you analyzing adding up all the fractions ignoring the asset value, which must be the constant amount to be divided.

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Syed Kamran Mirza's Reply: December 24th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

@saj,

Quran wonders why/how Sun and Moon do not collide/catch each other (?)

Mr. Saj:

You are too smart and playing over-smart with your highly convoluted, deceptive and utterly dishonest and devastatingly illogical logic. Allah did not know at all that Sun is 90 millions miles away from the Moon. Had He know this, He would never brag about this at all. Verses are the testament for my claim. He was bragging that, though (according to His ignorance) Sun and moon is swimming supposedly in the same path, yet they do not collide or can not catch each other. This was the clear subject of His bragging about this. Here is what happened:

Allah is indeed a great scientist. I have the answer for this error. Ancient people saw (bare eye observations) Sun and Moon traveling from east to west (and west to east) seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, yet they do not collide or catch each other and causing day and night etc. People in the 7th century hardly could imagine that all of these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’ gravity. Quran never say any where in the whole Quran that, THE EARTH ROTATES. Quran maintained Geo-centric theory in every respect. Earth was considered center of the Universe. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation, because like humans Allah was also stuck with earth’s gravity. These Quranic verses below once more confirms that the EARTH is fixed and never moves.

Quran- 35:41: Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft¬Forgiving.

Quran-31:10: He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…..

(Quran- 21:31): And We have set on earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them.

(Quran-16:15): And he has cast the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you…

Allah thought earth is fixed at the center of the universe and never moves. Allah never could feel that this tiny earth is rotating (moving) constantly around the sun! He also thought that there is something calls sky (like roof over the earth) which also never moves because Mighty Allah is holding it fixed with His Mighty hand! What a ludicrous thinking by Allah! Question for Saj:

1. What causes day and night? Are the so called movements/swimming (stated by Allah) of Sun and Moon has anything to do it? 2. Or, is the Earth’s rotation around the Sun causes day and night? 3. Has Allah ever said how big is Sun? He subjected Sun for the earth! Is that right?

Please tell me where in the Quran Allah said so! If you can show me this, I will withdraw my article from all sites. This is my promise. Thanks.

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saj's Reply: May 20th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

With regards to the ‘why/how Sun and Moon do not collide’ subject, you mention that “He was bragging that, though (according to His ignorance) Sun and moon is swimming supposedly in the same path, yet they do not collide or can not catch each other”

I’m not sure why you’ve picked this totally unrelated verse to prove the Quran’s inference regarding the orbits of the sun and the moon. There are a number of verses which directly talks about the orbits of sun and moon. Let’s look at the surah 21 verse 33:

“And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.”

Here it say “each in an orbit”. This right here makes it clear they have their own orbit. You can ask anyone who has a good understanding of the English language what this statement means. So when you say “supposed in the same path”, you are not understanding the actual language here. I see no arguments here. I think before you start making any kind of arguments you should understand the actual language, and understand what it really means. I see you are not in the same page as what the message is.

Your Allegation ————————————————————- Quran never say any where in the whole Quran that, THE EARTH ROTATES. Quran maintained Geo-centric theory in every respect.

My Response ————————————————————- I don’t think you really read my rebuttal in my last post. I have shown how Allah in His infinite wisdom tells us in the Quran about the earth’s movement. I guess it is worth repeating the whole rebuttal here as you seem to be very confident that the Quran doesn’t deduce anywhere about the earth’s movement. This must be the reason why you write it in all CAPS. Please don’t be too hasty drawing your conclusion. You sound to be looking for an exact statement consisting of words “earth” and “rotation” to be positioned side by side. This is utterly wrong way to argue. You should be looking for a fact, not a statement. A same fact can be expressed in many different statements. As for example, let’s say we were having a chat in the USA. While we were having that conversation you were wondering if I had made any trip to Bangladesh in last two years. Obviously you were thinking any such statement as “I traveled to Dhaka last year” would get you the answer you were looking for. In one point of our conversation, I said “I purchased this shirt, which I’m wearing now, from Arong in Dhaka last year”. Now my question to you, have you got the intended information from this statement even though this statement is nowhere close to what you had in your mind? Of course you do. This statement not only tells you the information about my travel to Bangladesh, it also gives more than you were looking for. With this, besides telling about my trip to Bangladesh, this also tells about one of my shopping activities while I was there. Now keep this in your mind while reading following paragraphs.

Let’s see what Quran actually says about the earth’s movement. In Al-Anbiya verse 33 Allah says, “It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all swim along, each in its rounded course.” I quoted this verse from a Turkish interpretation of Quran. In the interpretation, the footnote written below the verse Anbiya/33 is as follows: “Although only two celestial bodies are mentioned, it is stated through a verb tense which is used for more than two things that all of them swim in a separate orbit. It can be inferred from this that all celestial bodies, together with the Sun and Moon, move in an orbit unique to them”. This interpretation which is indeed applicable for the Anbiya/33 also applies to Yasin/40. Because, Arabic translation of the part translated as “all of them swim in an orbit” in both verses is exactly the same: “küllün fı felekiy yesbehun”. A verb tense which is used for more than two things obviously exists in both two verses. Look closely what these verses say, which is very striking. It is obviously emphasized in the verses that “night and day” also rotate in an orbit. The reference made to night and day in the Quran is always related to the Earth’s night and day. In other words, what is actually stated in both of these two verses is the fact that Earth also rotates in an orbit just like the sun and the moon! For a moment, think about the movement of the earth in the space. While the earth is rotating around the sun, night and day which always and together exist above the earth also rotate in an orbit around the sun. From this perspective, the verses have an extremely subtle expression…

Haven’t you still got the information you are looking for? If not, here’s a question for you: how do the earth’s day and night rotate in a rounded course if the earth is fixed?

Another thing implied by the narration of the swimming of the earth in an orbit in this way by referring to night and day may be related to around what the rotation of the earth is realized. In other words, night and day in the earth emerge owing to the sun. By stating “night and day also float in an orbit”, the verses may well be referring to the fact that this orbit is around the sun.

I know what you will be asking next; why there is no simple statement merely saying, the Earth rotates. Answer is easy if you have an open mind to listen.

1) This statement is much more superior than just a mere statement as "the earth rotates".

2) The Quran is not a science book, rather it’s a book of guidance for the humanity. It’s not Quran’s job to tell everything about astronomy, biology, oceanology, geology etc. You shouldn’t expect the Quran to make explicit statement such as: O humanity, what you are believing about the earth, galaxies, sun, moon etc. are not correct. They actually work like this….

Allah created the universe and set laws for everything for their operations. Allah also intends laws for humankind as well. He also talks in His book about the difference between human beings and His other creations. He tells us that we, the human beings, are His best creation and He has given us super intelligence and free will. With this intelligence He expects us to explore and discover the miracles of His creations so that our belief in Him is validated. It’s not Allah’s responsibility to tell us about them, rather He wants us to discover them with the capabilities He has bestowed upon us. With our intelligence and scientific knowledge, whenever we make a discovery of His creation and realize that it has already been mention or hinted in the Quran, we are expected to compare that fact against Quranic statements. If it matches, this adds another reason to believe the divine authorship of the Quran. It is also clearly mentioned in the Quran that in every phase of humankind, people will not have all the knowledge. In every age, people should test Quran based on the knowledge they have, not the other way. I can see how some people including yourself try to portray Quran is a purely science book and discredit this book by comparing it against books of astronomy, or biology or geology or oceanology and through irrelevant questions such as why there are no mentions in the Quran about the size of the sun, why no specific statement about Mars, Jupiter, why there is no mention of complete solar system etc. etc. We humans have been given capability to find those out and Allah intends us to do so. It’s not His intention to reveal all the secret of his creation to you by His divine revelation. Would it really make any sense if in one hand He gives us capabilities to explore and find those truths and on the other hand He gives us all the secrets, which we have been intended to explore in the first place? I would like to repeat my statement once again, “Quran is not a science book, rather it’s a book of guidance for the humanity.” This is a spiritual book, which also talks more about how the humanity should lead their life. The Quran spends almost one third of it’s volume talking about the phase human beings will have to go through after death. As the life after death fully belongs to another dimension from our world, human knowledge will never be able to discover unless Allah tells us so. It makes perfect sense why Quran talks so much more about worldly laws (which Allah has set for us) and the life after death than those of sciences. However the amount of scientific facts mentioned in the Quran should be enough to convince the people with open minds and the truth seekers.

Your allegation: ————————————————————- Earth was considered center of the Universe. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation, because like humans Allah was also stuck with earth’s gravity. These Quranic verses below once more confirms that the EARTH is fixed and never moves.

Quran- 35:41: Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft¬Forgiving.

Your Other Allegation Regarding “Earth is Fixed”: ————————————————————- Quran-31:10: He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…..

(Quran- 21:31): And We have set on earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them.

(Quran-16:15): And he has cast the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you…

The heavens are suspended without any pillar to be seen. The astronomers say that centripetal force and the force of gravity determine the motions of the heavenly bodies. These forces are the determining factors behind the positions of the heavenly bodies, not physical pillars.

My Response: ————————————————————- You mentioned “The heavens are suspended without any pillar to be seen. The astronomers say that centripetal force and the force of gravity determine the motions of the heavenly bodies. These forces are the determining factors behind the positions of the heavenly bodies, not physical pillars.”

Mr. Kamran, please tell me where in the Quran contradicts with the above statement. There would be contradiction if what is mentioned in the Quran is not the case in reality. Is Quran contradicting with the fact that the centripetal force and gravity are responsible for the heavenly bodies’ movem0...

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