So I was fishing with a friend the other weekend on a small creek. We were both fishing the same hole that is about 25 feet to 30 feet long and maybe 10 - 15 feet wide.

A guy came wading up the bank, crossed the stream about 25 yards below us, waked right behind us, then stood right next to my friend (about 3-5 feet away) and started to cast! he was using a spinning rod, we were both FFing. not once did he say a word to us, didn't ask if we cared if he made a few casts, nothing.

is it just me or would anyone else be pissed about this?

all I said to him was.... really man, your going to fish right there? and he replied yea. I said some choice words which I shouldn't have said but it worked and got him to leave.

What ever happened to etiquette? I know I stooped to his level but I was annoyed, my friend has not caught a fish on his fly rod yet, we have been out about 5 to 6 times together. I want to get him on a fish, I think that is why I was so pissed.

It happens, especially at popular streams. People are rude. Best choice is to find another spot. He obviously needs it more than you and your friend. I get annoyed but have calmed down considerably. Go to another spot that baiters would overlook cause "theres no fish there" and rip a couple out. Will be a better experience for you and your newbie bud. Dont sweat the small stuff man, its not what its about. Know what i mean?

Posted on: 2014/4/7 16:34

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You were right in challenging the guy, all I can say is be careful how you choose your words when you do. Just because you were right, doesn't mean he thought you were.The bait and spinner guys have a different mindset, they are used to getting in a hole where there are others fishing, we as FFers are usually not interested in that aspect of fishing, we want space. They don't get that we want space, so ok, but don't be so blatant, and ask if you can make a few casts. If the FFer, says no, then move on.

Posted on: 2014/4/7 16:39

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I had an almost identical thing happen to me, and a buddy, on Spring. This was after I held my backcast until the inconsiderate one safely worked his way behind me. I asked the guy, in a not so kind way, why he felt it necessary to try to stand in my hip pocket when the entire area upstream, as far as I could see, was clear? He reeled in and left without a word.

Posted on: 2014/4/7 17:00

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afishinado wrote:

I find you very confrontational, offensive and have never seen more a glass-half-empty attitude.

Also consider that maybe the guy didn't know that the two of you were together, and figured if you were both okay fishing that close to the next person, one more wouldn't be a big deal.

I don't really see this as a fly vs. spin thing, and I don't really think that kind of thinking helps anything, nor is it terribly accurate, and only serves to subconsciously reinforce the "uppity fly snob" stereotype that usually gets pinned on us.

Most spin guys are used to huddling up to fish. I always take that into account. I do shake my head, sometimes when a FFer comes up from behind me and casts over my shoulder to rising fish or wades right in front of me where I was casting.

Opening season I never seam to do very well with a flyrod. I usually have to wait a few weeks after. During this time I feel that most stocked trout are still looking for the pellets that they were fed in the hatchery. Powerbaiters come in and clean house.

Please take a close look at your friends gear - make sure it is set up correctly. Go through the science of the J loop when false casting, and practice so that he gets a good hang of it. Put a dry fly on with a nymph or midge dropper that bumps bottom. Make sure he is casting several feet above (upstream) where he thinks the trout is. And hopefully your buddy will hook up.

Posted on: 2014/4/8 12:05

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