After continuously mentioning it on the podcast for months, they swerve to a different media altogether and cover PS4 video game Horizon Zero Dawn.Ivan & Red Jeff Bezos, their favorite robot dinosaur to murder, and their feelings about the inevitable robot apocalypse.

One of the highest rated new shows of 2019 with the pilot free online on its home network of You Tube Premium, not enough people are talking about Wayne.Ivan & Red talk Slim Jims, Broke Batman, and the greatest villain humankind can imagine: Dennis Duffy.

We’ve entered bizarro-world as Red advocates for a comic book adaptation while Ivan shrugs indifferently for Netflix’s The Umbrella Academy.Ivan & Red discuss sibling relations, comic book adaptations, and the brilliance of Ellen Page & Robert Sheehan.

Better Angels, Season 2 Episode 10, the season (series?!) finalé of Starz’s Counterpart.Ivan & Red discuss Mira's looming threat forging some unlikely alliances AND NOTHING ELSE in the possible FIRST series finale in a show they’ve covered from start to finish.

You to You, Season 2 Episode 9 THE PENULTIMATE episode of Starz’s Counterpart. Moments after discovering (accepting?) that Counterpart will not be coming back to Starz for a third season, Ivan & Red dive in to another exemplary episode from a show that is hearing some very ominous footsteps coming down the hall.

A bicycle wheel is also a flat circle as Ivan & Red return to discuss HBO’s True Detective. After an inexplicable choice to strap itself to Vince Vaughan for a season, Mahershala Ali single-handedly rights a series.

Shadow Puppets, Season 2 Episode 5 of Starz’s Counterpart.Ivan & Red discuss the increasingly poor chances for Clare & Peter’s marriage. Clare has both a daughter and a lover named Spencer, and Peter’s running away from trouble like sweaty brooms thrown down the stairs in this, the hottest episode of television in all of 2019*.