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Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell

No, if you make enough money to be in the highest tax bracket, you have a larger responsibility to the state. You owe your financial success in part to the nation we live in which allows you to prosper. That and tax dollars building schools, libraries, and roads gives other citizens the ability to prosper, bolstering the economy of the nation as a whole.

Does a pretty woman owe men a lot more sex than average women because the pretty woman benefits more from men doing her bidding than what average women receive?

Does a talented musician owe the public free concerts compared to a mediocre musician?

Does a talent car mechanic have to give away his service one day a week compared to the mechanic who is just mediocre?

Or to take the argument directly to your territory, if the higher income earner owes more to the state because the state is responsible for his success then isn't his good judgment also needed in terms of voting - shouldn't he be granted more votes than the low income earner because he's clearly shown that his judgment is better because he was able to use those societal resources more efficiently than the low income earner who had EXACTLY the same chance to use those societal resources.

Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Originally Posted by Gipper

So "great" countries have to charge for the right to live within them? That kind of thinking makes me want to pick up and move to a country that can prove its greatness through methods other than theft and extortion.

It's a cute little slippery slope. Maybe the state just decides that you don't need money. It'll take everything you have and determine, on its own, what you need and what you don't.

Just do as you're told.

If you want to get up and move, go ahead. With basically the whole industrialized world practicing socialism, I'm just curious, what country do you think you'll go to?

One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.- Plato

Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell

That and tax dollars building schools, libraries, and roads gives other citizens the ability to prosper, bolstering the economy of the nation as a whole.

This is a crock of **** distraction tactic that you're using. Most of the taxes that we pay are used for INCOME REDISTRIBUTION and not for providing PUBLIC goods, like roads, schools, border control, national defense, policing, courts, etc.

Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Does a pretty woman owe men a lot more sex than average women because the pretty woman benefits more from men doing her bidding than what average women receive?

Does a talented musician owe the public free concerts compared to a mediocre musician?

Does a talent car mechanic have to give away his service one day a week compared to the mechanic who is just mediocre?

Or to take the argument directly to your territory, if the higher income earner owes more to the state because the state is responsible for his success then isn't his good judgment also needed in terms of voting - shouldn't he be granted more votes than the low income earner because he's clearly shown that his judgment is better because he was able to use those societal resources more efficiently than the low income earner who had EXACTLY the same chance to use those societal resources.

Come on. Really? Apples and Oranges my friend.

One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.- Plato

Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell

Rob everyone's paycheck? Come on. Taxes are taxes, we all have to pay them, it is the price of living in a great country. A flat tax is ridiculous. Someone who makes 400k a year should not pay the same rate as someone who is hovering around the poverty line.

Progressive taxation is discriminatory and we all know that when we advocate discrimination then we advocate evil. Or something. The government should treat every citizen equally. Progressive taxation doesn't treat every citizen equally.

Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Does a pretty woman owe men a lot more sex than average women because the pretty woman benefits more from men doing her bidding than what average women receive?

Does a talented musician owe the public free concerts compared to a mediocre musician?

Does a talent car mechanic have to give away his service one day a week compared to the mechanic who is just mediocre?

Or to take the argument directly to your territory, if the higher income earner owes more to the state because the state is responsible for his success then isn't his good judgment also needed in terms of voting - shouldn't he be granted more votes than the low income earner because he's clearly shown that his judgment is better because he was able to use those societal resources more efficiently than the low income earner who had EXACTLY the same chance to use those societal resources.

And by the way, the poor don't usually have the same societal resources as the wealthy. Where you live makes a big difference. Don't believe me, go into a region with housing projects and tell me they have equal societal resources as someone from Malibu

One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.- Plato