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On this the kite flies well with most of the oversteer/twitchyness gone but all the tricks - at least all the ones I can do - still there.

The other problem I've found with the Shadow generally is that sometimes tricks like flic flacs seem to fail due to lack of inertia and roll ups have always been hard. This is probably down to the very low weight of the Shadow - only 165 grams - so I'm going to try a few experiments to see if I can add a little weight and so more inertia without losing too much bottom end performance.

@ username: Wayner...I added a long tow point pigtail with an extra knot to make a turbo. When you do your testing don't forget to adjust your tow point. I lowered mine 1/2". I haven't given it a test flight yet. You haven't had any wind out there in area 51 yet, huh?

Thanks for the update. I should be finished tomorrow.

We have had too much wind here around area 51. Boy, its enought to keep the flying saucer in the hangers.

@ Hadge....Yes, the measurements are very close to the same, but the configurationis totally different. Also, now I have added the long tow point pigtail with an addictional knot to make a turbo. It's the same configuration as the Silver Fox tow point "bead" turbo. This looks different because the Silver Fox has the tow point with the extended Leader Lines.Does this make sense?

Yes I think I see, it's basically the 3 point with the option of a turbo?

Uh?Looking at the shadow on the photo...compared to your measurements...HUMMM? somethin just doesn't add up when I tried to re-configure my pre-production demo Shadow's bridle?Chances are pretty strong that my lack of cm' knowledge measurements don't add up to those shown on your photo? dumb n dumber Don (exiled here in Gig Harbor with his exiled ol Shadown.

Are the values in the second post correct?Is the outhaul really longer than the inhaul?

Yes those measurements are correct - I just measured it again to double check myself!

You will find a BIG difference in the way it flies - much smoother and almost no oversteer, it makes it a much nicer kite. I'm working on another mod which also seems to help but that needs a little more airtime to be sure. When/if I'm happy it really works I'll post details in due course.

As a new owner of a Shadow I'll take this into consideration. Haven't had it out yet. I flew one way back when they were first out and didn't have a bad impression of the bridle, but maybe it will reveal its evil side with time.

The main thing is bringing the oversteer under control, it was always a problem on the Shadow and you either adjusted to it or got rid of the kite - hence it's love it ot loathe it reputation - which was a shame as it's a very good UL. This way you get rid of the oversteer and keep all the tricks and low wind ability.

It's easy enough to tie the new bridle alongside the original bridle so you can swap from one to the other to compare them.

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