Delete this too, if you like, but my next step will be to post it in a thread which, if deleted, I will continue to repost until I am banned or, alternatively, I get some valid explanation for why my perfectly inoffensive and baseball-related post on page 1 of the "Allen Craig needs to go" thread was deleted.

Seriously, enough is enough with the deletion of random posts by BDC's anonymous enforcers. We now have 3 moderators who are actually posters here and have at least shown themselves to possess some modicum of common sense and restraint. Why do we still need these other goofs?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Flap, I will go find your post and take a look at it. Just this morning I received the OK to contact the contract mods directly. Hopefully we can sort this out.

Delete this too, if you like, but my next step will be to post it in a thread which, if deleted, I will continue to repost until I am banned or, alternatively, I get some valid explanation for why my perfectly inoffensive and baseball-related post on page 1 of the "Allen Craig needs to go" thread was deleted.

Seriously, enough is enough with the deletion of random posts by BDC's anonymous enforcers. We now have 3 moderators who are actually posters here and have at least shown themselves to possess some modicum of common sense and restraint. Why do we still need these other goofs?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Flap, I will go find your post and take a look at it. Just this morning I received the OK to contact the contract mods directly. Hopefully we can sort this out.

WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

Ha. Thanks, Pumpsie...I'm not too concerned about that post in particular, but it's more the fact that this has happened so many times to so many people and it's truly becoming ridiculous.

Delete this too, if you like, but my next step will be to post it in a thread which, if deleted, I will continue to repost until I am banned or, alternatively, I get some valid explanation for why my perfectly inoffensive and baseball-related post on page 1 of the "Allen Craig needs to go" thread was deleted.

Seriously, enough is enough with the deletion of random posts by BDC's anonymous enforcers. We now have 3 moderators who are actually posters here and have at least shown themselves to possess some modicum of common sense and restraint. Why do we still need these other goofs?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Flap, I will go find your post and take a look at it. Just this morning I received the OK to contact the contract mods directly. Hopefully we can sort this out.

WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

Ha. Thanks, Pumpsie...I'm not too concerned about that post in particular, but it's more the fact that this has happened so many times to so many people and it's truly becoming ridiculous.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Its possible that random posts are getting deleted; its also possible that the contract mods are blocking them. Now that I have access to them I can ask them if they removed a post. They are supposed to limit their activities to removing only spam or overt bigotry/racism and leave the rest for us to screw up.

I tried to reply to Idiot's post "Tom Werner ‘We’ve got a lot of money to spend and we’re determined to go into the free agent market and improve the team’ " and my reply won't post. But I can reply to other posts in other threads.

Any owners who sign previously suspended PED abusers to a big $$ contract are as guilty of perpetuating the PED problem as are the players.

I tried to reply to Idiot's post "Tom Werner ‘We’ve got a lot of money to spend and we’re determined to go into the free agent market and improve the team’ " and my reply won't post. But I can reply to other posts in other threads.

Any owners who sign previously suspended PED abusers to a big $$ contract are as guilty of perpetuating the PED problem as are the players.

I tried to reply to Idiot's post "Tom Werner ‘We’ve got a lot of money to spend and we’re determined to go into the free agent market and improve the team’ " and my reply won't post. But I can reply to other posts in other threads.

Any owners who sign previously suspended PED abusers to a big $$ contract are as guilty of perpetuating the PED problem as are the players.

I tried to reply to Idiot's post "Tom Werner ‘We’ve got a lot of money to spend and we’re determined to go into the free agent market and improve the team’ " and my reply won't post. But I can reply to other posts in other threads.

Any owners who sign previously suspended PED abusers to a big $$ contract are as guilty of perpetuating the PED problem as are the players.

I met with a representative from the company BDC contracts with to do moderating for its forums today. I wanted to give everyone a summary of what was discussed at that meeting.

1. Criteria to delete posts

The contracted moderators have been asked to delete only posts that are vulgar, racist, bigoted, obscene, or are considered "over the top" personal attacks. They also delete spam posts. The company that BDC has employed uses moderators located all over the world so that 24/7 coverage can be provided. While these guidelines have been transmitted to all of the moderators there may be differences in interpretation. A mechanism will be worked out to address specific contract moderators whose interpretation of these guidelines differs from the generally accepted guidelines. This should result in fewer posts being blocked by non site moderators, I believe.

2. Reported Posts

Generally the contracted moderators look only at the post that has been reported and make a judgement based only on that piece of information as to whether it should be blocked or not. They do have the capacity to view the context of that post however, if that is deemed necessary. They do not review the forum and read its threads.

3. Posts critical of the moderators

These kinds of posts are tolerated (or should be). If they are being blocked I will report them under the mechanism outlined in 1. above once I discover them.

4. Random post deletion

The issue of whether or not posts are still getting randomly deleted will be investigated. If its none of the three of us, then I will report it to the company hired by BDC to look into if they blocked the post. If its not them either, then there is a technical glitch that needs to be addressed.

Overall I found the company hired to moderate On the Front Burner (and the other forums) to be very receptive to making changes that will make the forum a better place to visit. We (all three site mods) have their contact information, and they have mine. I think this is going to help with some of the issues you all have mentioned. In addition, management is working on some other improvements such as the ability to remove all priviledges from banned posters (they can still post, but it reads "this post has been deleted") and the ability to "collapse" the threads by removing all the "this post has been deleted" posts. When more information is available about that I will pass it along.

I met with a representative from the company BDC contracts with to do moderating for its forums today. I wanted to give everyone a summary of what was discussed at that meeting.

1. Criteria to delete posts

The contracted moderators have been asked to delete only posts that are vulgar, racist, bigoted, obscene, or are considered "over the top" personal attacks. They also delete spam posts. The company that BDC has employed uses moderators located all over the world so that 24/7 coverage can be provided. While these guidelines have been transmitted to all of the moderators there may be differences in interpretation. A mechanism will be worked out to address specific contract moderators whose interpretation of these guidelines differs from the generally accepted guidelines. This should result in fewer posts being blocked by non site moderators, I believe.

2. Reported Posts

Generally the contracted moderators look only at the post that has been reported and make a judgement based only on that piece of information as to whether it should be blocked or not. They do have the capacity to view the context of that post however, if that is deemed necessary. They do not review the forum and read its threads.

3. Posts critical of the moderators

These kinds of posts are tolerated (or should be). If they are being blocked I will report them under the mechanism outlined in 1. above once I discover them.

4. Random post deletion

The issue of whether or not posts are still getting randomly deleted will be investigated. If its none of the three of us, then I will report it to the company hired by BDC to look into if they blocked the post. If its not them either, then there is a technical glitch that needs to be addressed.

Overall I found the company hired to moderate On the Front Burner (and the other forums) to be very receptive to making changes that will make the forum a better place to visit. We (all three site mods) have their contact information, and they have mine. I think this is going to help with some of the issues you all have mentioned. In addition, management is working on some other improvements such as the ability to remove all priviledges from banned posters (they can still post, but it reads "this post has been deleted") and the ability to "collapse" the threads by removing all the "this post has been deleted" posts. When more information is available about that I will pass it along.

WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

Not really posting here now b/c of heavy-handed moderating but do check back to see when/if moderating has changed. Can't ignore the glaring ommission of bannings in any of the descriptions. IMO bannings have been handed out here more than ever before. What was once constant post deletions has been replaced with some 24hr banning rule, or more. Just found it odd that bannings weren't even addressed at all. Are they just open for interpretation?

Remember I was banned for 24hrs for saying I would never shut up about having this "sarcastic" post removed:

Thanks for that. That's really helpful. And for those who don't understand sarcasm I can't help you.

Bannings really should have been addressed in those conversations. IMO

Not really posting here now b/c of heavy-handed moderating but do check back to see when/if moderating has changed. Can't ignore the glaring ommission of bannings in any of the descriptions. IMO bannings have been handed out here more than ever before. What was once constant post deletions has been replaced with some 24hr banning rule, or more. Just found it odd that bannings weren't even addressed at all. Are they just open for interpretation?

Remember I was banned for 24hrs for saying I would never shut up about having this "sarcastic" post removed:

Thanks for that. That's really helpful. And for those who don't understand sarcasm I can't help you.

Bannings really should have been addressed in those conversations. IMO

I met with a representative from the company BDC contracts with to do moderating for its forums today. I wanted to give everyone a summary of what was discussed at that meeting.

1. Criteria to delete posts

The contracted moderators have been asked to delete only posts that are vulgar, racist, bigoted, obscene, or are considered "over the top" personal attacks. They also delete spam posts. The company that BDC has employed uses moderators located all over the world so that 24/7 coverage can be provided. While these guidelines have been transmitted to all of the moderators there may be differences in interpretation. A mechanism will be worked out to address specific contract moderators whose interpretation of these guidelines differs from the generally accepted guidelines. This should result in fewer posts being blocked by non site moderators, I believe.

2. Reported Posts

Generally the contracted moderators look only at the post that has been reported and make a judgement based only on that piece of information as to whether it should be blocked or not. They do have the capacity to view the context of that post however, if that is deemed necessary. They do not review the forum and read its threads.

3. Posts critical of the moderators

These kinds of posts are tolerated (or should be). If they are being blocked I will report them under the mechanism outlined in 1. above once I discover them.

4. Random post deletion

The issue of whether or not posts are still getting randomly deleted will be investigated. If its none of the three of us, then I will report it to the company hired by BDC to look into if they blocked the post. If its not them either, then there is a technical glitch that needs to be addressed.

Overall I found the company hired to moderate On the Front Burner (and the other forums) to be very receptive to making changes that will make the forum a better place to visit. We (all three site mods) have their contact information, and they have mine. I think this is going to help with some of the issues you all have mentioned. In addition, management is working on some other improvements such as the ability to remove all priviledges from banned posters (they can still post, but it reads "this post has been deleted") and the ability to "collapse" the threads by removing all the "this post has been deleted" posts. When more information is available about that I will pass it along.

WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

Not really posting here now b/c of heavy-handed moderating but do check back to see when/if moderating has changed. Can't ignore the glaring ommission of bannings in any of the descriptions. IMO bannings have been handed out here more than ever before. What was once constant post deletions has been replaced with some 24hr banning rule, or more. Just found it odd that bannings weren't even addressed at all. Are they just open for interpretation?

Remember I was banned for 24hrs for saying I would never shut up about having this "sarcastic" post removed:

Thanks for that. That's really helpful. And for those who don't understand sarcasm I can't help you.

Bannings really should have been addressed in those conversations. IMO

KST, look at the last post on the page this link takes you to. You had your chance to suggest topics for the discussion I had with the contract moderators.

Issues for BDC: Letting a Mod take over the forum and do as he pleases. Letting the other two Mod postions sit idle becasue neither of those Mods ever had the time to actually do the job.

Agree, this is an issue. Moderator 2 is out of control. His ego seems to have gotten the better of him. This makes him unsuitable to hold such a position, in my opinion. Also, I really have a hard time believing that the other moderators approve of and sanction his recent behavior. If they do then it is also my opinon that we don't need them here as moderators either and that it is time to end this farce.

Issues for BDC: Letting a Mod take over the forum and do as he pleases. Letting the other two Mod postions sit idle becasue neither of those Mods ever had the time to actually do the job.

Agree, this is an issue. Moderator 2 is out of control. His ego seems to have gotten the better of him. This makes him unsuitable to hold such a position, in my opinion. Also, I really have a hard time believing that the other moderators approve of and sanction his recent behavior. If they do then it is also my opinon that we don't need them here as moderators either and that it is time to end this farce.

Thank you Burrito and Antibody.

Pumpsie is overstepping his bounds as a moderator.

When a moderator is blatantly violating the posting policies and changing posters thread titles for no good reason, something needs to be done. And if the other two mods are okay with this behavior, then it is an even bigger issue.

Issues for BDC: Letting a Mod take over the forum and do as he pleases. Letting the other two Mod postions sit idle becasue neither of those Mods ever had the time to actually do the job.

Agree, this is an issue. Moderator 2 is out of control. His ego seems to have gotten the better of him. This makes him unsuitable to hold such a position, in my opinion. Also, I really have a hard time believing that the other moderators approve of and sanction his recent behavior. If they do then it is also my opinon that we don't need them here as moderators either and that it is time to end this farce.

Thank you Burrito and Antibody.

Pumpsie is overstepping his bounds as a moderator.

When a moderator is blatantly violating the posting policies and changing posters thread titles for no good reason, something needs to be done. And if the other two mods are okay with this behavior, then it is an even bigger issue.

Issues for BDC: Letting a Mod take over the forum and do as he pleases. Letting the other two Mod postions sit idle becasue neither of those Mods ever had the time to actually do the job.

Agree, this is an issue. Moderator 2 is out of control. His ego seems to have gotten the better of him. This makes him unsuitable to hold such a position, in my opinion. Also, I really have a hard time believing that the other moderators approve of and sanction his recent behavior. If they do then it is also my opinon that we don't need them here as moderators either and that it is time to end this farce.

Thank you Burrito and Antibody.

Pumpsie is overstepping his bounds as a moderator.

When a moderator is blatantly violating the posting policies and changing posters thread titles for no good reason, something needs to be done. And if the other two mods are okay with this behavior, then it is an even bigger issue.

Issues for BDC: Letting a Mod take over the forum and do as he pleases. Letting the other two Mod postions sit idle becasue neither of those Mods ever had the time to actually do the job.

Agree, this is an issue. Moderator 2 is out of control. His ego seems to have gotten the better of him. This makes him unsuitable to hold such a position, in my opinion. Also, I really have a hard time believing that the other moderators approve of and sanction his recent behavior. If they do then it is also my opinon that we don't need them here as moderators either and that it is time to end this farce.

Thank you Burrito and Antibody.

Pumpsie is overstepping his bounds as a moderator.

When a moderator is blatantly violating the posting policies and changing posters thread titles for no good reason, something needs to be done. And if the other two mods are okay with this behavior, then it is an even bigger issue.

I think it's worth noting that moderators weren't interested in any guidelines for bannings enough to ask about it. Maybe they like the idea of having carte blanche.

I think bannings used as disiplinary measures should be stopped. That is a practice that was started by the new moderation and was never in place before that. It seems like bannings are now applied when someone asks too many questions, says the same thing too much, doesn't agree with moderation & voices their opinion, and sometimes it even seems like when it's just a power trip to do it.

FTR bannings should only be used in extreme cases, that's why its called banning. It's because it was permanent. I don't know how all these bannings are being justified. Post removal -- sure -- bannings -- no way.

And the taunting of posters is waaay out of line for a moderator. I could start w/ "crickets" after a poster's comment, but the list would really be endless and would include banning a poster and then printing their comments to mock them.

I think it may be worth looking into a formal complaint by members of the forum as a group as to any and all concerns.