The BT Broadband/ Sports combo is a LOT cheaper, and the BT Sports digital offering is amazing compared to the piece of shit that is Go. Combine it with some 'other' streaming to fill in the gaps. That's my plan for this year!

The BT pundit line-up is especially awful, but I don't listen to any of them anyway so I can ignore that!

The BT Broadband/ Sports combo is a LOT cheaper, and the BT Sports digital offering is amazing compared to the piece of shit that is Go. Combine it with some 'other' streaming to fill in the gaps. That's my plan for this year!

The BT pundit line-up is especially awful, but I don't listen to any of them anyway so I can ignore that!

Didnt you used to work for Sky and were very anti streaming etc

sorry if I am talking out of line and missed what happened or if I've got you mixed up with someone else on here .

The BT Broadband/ Sports combo is a LOT cheaper, and the BT Sports digital offering is amazing compared to the piece of shit that is Go. Combine it with some 'other' streaming to fill in the gaps. That's my plan for this year!

The BT pundit line-up is especially awful, but I don't listen to any of them anyway so I can ignore that!

Didnt you used to work for Sky and were very anti streaming etc

sorry if I am talking out of line and missed what happened or if I've got you mixed up with someone else on here .

No you're on the right lines, but annoyingly I can't really say much about that here.

I wasn't so much anti-streaming with sports (more so movies), and I did say it isn't sustainable to be paying Kodi. But I have changed my opinion somewhat, and don't blame anybody who does stream. The pricing and money structure in the world of football is a disgrace.

I'm desperately hoping that Facebook change the landscape entirely, and put a bunch of... very unpleasant people out of business!

For such a relative short space of time BT have come a long way and in my opinion are better than SKY . SKY Sports is Very tired and restructuring they way we pay for it isn't going to solve that . I pay for both by the way .

Tbh, im very disappointed with sky. Everything seems to be repeats on their new channels. If youre going to be doing a football channel, at least try and get as much live football on as possible but i dont actually think they have enough games to warrent it. As a channel that is exclusive to football, i would expect to see south american football on at night, with asian football in the morning and the european stuff in the middle, all live. Instead, ive got to look forward to a repeat of the league cup final from 2014 followed by the league cup final from 2015.

If i didnt have a decent deal with sky (and they have the nfl), they would be gone. Bt is winning for me

What are the rumours re Facebook and the next round of rights? Someone said it would be free to air with them using it to drive advertising online - is that sustainable or is Facebook so cash rich it can do it?

What are the rumours re Facebook and the next round of rights? Someone said it would be free to air with them using it to drive advertising online - is that sustainable or is Facebook so cash rich it can do it?

Yes they are. But I wouldn't expect them to go for all the packages. It's essential for Sky to have at least four, if not five of the seven packages (BT have packages 2 and 7 I think). And that's why I think they're in trouble.

Facebook dwarf Sky in terms of revenue. And they need to keep growing. They are putting their faith in video, it's a key driver for keeping people on the site longer (which is what they need to do now that most of the planet has already signed up). Their advertising model would easily allow them to sustain a PL deal, particularly if they go for just one or two packages. They're showing Champs League games in the US for free next year, so there is precedent for it.

We could potentially see a situation where you have to get a Facebook account, a BT Sports account, an Amazon account and a Sky box to see every game legally. And given that Sky costs a hell of a lot more than the others, and they can't / won't drop their prices (and already have dwindling viewing figures), this is a very troubling time for them.

And we don't even know if Netflix or Google are going to join the party, as has been rumoured.

The only reason I think they might just get away with it is that the Sky rights are UK only, and Amazon / FB might decide Sky are forcing the costs up too much for just one small territory, and instead go for worldwide or European rights (I'm not very familiar with how that process works). But that still leaves BT, who could still mess with Sky's majority package line up.

I'm sorry for banging on about this so much, I just really, really, really want it to happen. Some people I used to know... well, I'd like to see some karma get dished out.

What are the rumours re Facebook and the next round of rights? Someone said it would be free to air with them using it to drive advertising online - is that sustainable or is Facebook so cash rich it can do it?

Yes they are. But I wouldn't expect them to go for all the packages. It's essential for Sky to have at least four, if not five of the seven packages (BT have packages 2 and 7 I think). And that's why I think they're in trouble.

Facebook dwarf Sky in terms of revenue. And they need to keep growing. They are putting their faith in video, it's a key driver for keeping people on the site longer (which is what they need to do now that most of the planet has already signed up). Their advertising model would easily allow them to sustain a PL deal, particularly if they go for just one or two packages. They're showing Champs League games in the US for free next year, so there is precedent for it.

We could potentially see a situation where you have to get a Facebook account, a BT Sports account, an Amazon account and a Sky box to see every game legally. And given that Sky costs a hell of a lot more than the others, and they can't / won't drop their prices (and already have dwindling viewing figures), this is a very troubling time for them.

And we don't even know if Netflix or Google are going to join the party, as has been rumoured.

The only reason I think they might just get away with it is that the Sky rights are UK only, and Amazon / FB might decide Sky are forcing the costs up too much for just one small territory, and instead go for worldwide or European rights (I'm not very familiar with how that process works). But that still leaves BT, who could still mess with Sky's majority package line up.

I'm sorry for banging on about this so much, I just really, really, really want it to happen. Some people I used to know... well, I'd like to see some karma get dished out.

What are the rumours re Facebook and the next round of rights? Someone said it would be free to air with them using it to drive advertising online - is that sustainable or is Facebook so cash rich it can do it?

Yes they are. But I wouldn't expect them to go for all the packages. It's essential for Sky to have at least four, if not five of the seven packages (BT have packages 2 and 7 I think). And that's why I think they're in trouble.

Facebook dwarf Sky in terms of revenue. And they need to keep growing. They are putting their faith in video, it's a key driver for keeping people on the site longer (which is what they need to do now that most of the planet has already signed up). Their advertising model would easily allow them to sustain a PL deal, particularly if they go for just one or two packages. They're showing Champs League games in the US for free next year, so there is precedent for it.

We could potentially see a situation where you have to get a Facebook account, a BT Sports account, an Amazon account and a Sky box to see every game legally. And given that Sky costs a hell of a lot more than the others, and they can't / won't drop their prices (and already have dwindling viewing figures), this is a very troubling time for them.

And we don't even know if Netflix or Google are going to join the party, as has been rumoured.

The only reason I think they might just get away with it is that the Sky rights are UK only, and Amazon / FB might decide Sky are forcing the costs up too much for just one small territory, and instead go for worldwide or European rights (I'm not very familiar with how that process works). But that still leaves BT, who could still mess with Sky's majority package line up.

I'm sorry for banging on about this so much, I just really, really, really want it to happen. Some people I used to know... well, I'd like to see some karma get dished out.

Gone with sky sports so I have the prem and then I'll stream the Serie A matches. Really interested to see how Milan do this season with all the new signings. Also to see if napoli can give it a good go as they have managed to keep their stars. Think Juve will just about do it again this year but I think next year they'll struggle if milan can get champions league football.