Joe Budden & DJ Akademiks Argue About Who Is An Industry Plant

Joe Budden and DJ Akademiks waded into the always controversial pool of which rappers are industry plants on their show Everyday Struggle today.

Here’s how Akademiks explained what an industry plant is:

“When you see a rapper get a come-up and you’re wondering how the fuck they did it. Especially when the fan base doesn’t match up.”

Two names immediately came up: Chance The Rapper and Nav.

“A lot of people acknowledge that Chance has these wonderful connections that let him do things that other independent artists can’t,” Akademiks said. “I think now we’re realizing he’s not as independent as he says he is — remember the Apple thing.”

While Ak argued Chance may be a plant, Budden pushed back.

Ak also said Nav was suspicious because he got a lot of big features even though you can’t really document his come- up.

How u gona say migos kodak blackand 21 nigga knock it off lol i agree with the rest and i been saying chance is whack fprever lol

realtalk

Did u not see the freshmen class freestyle with 21 , Kodak, lil yachty & Uzi in it. Yea straight horrible. How about when migos tried to freestyle lol trash!!! None of these artist are good but all have something in common, make trap/bass booming beats with horrible lyrics and dress funny lol

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

Well you cant say Migos because i heard them when they mixtape was poor quality. Thats not a industry plant.

realtalk

They’re popular now but are trash , that’s a industry plant lol.

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

Thats not what a industry plant is. They explain what it is multiple times when you pop up out the blue thats a industry plant Chance The Rapper does seem plantish. I know its not a word.

realtalk

All those artist I listed , popped up outta nowhere lolol

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

All except the Migos.

Supreme Trunks

Even with chance, acid rap got a lot of buzz and people fucked with it. No different than how Wiz broke into mainstream thanks to Kush and OJ

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

Wiz became famous from Black and Yellow

Supreme Trunks

I think Black and Yellow was his worldwide hit but nationally, people had his name in their mouth after hearing Kush and Oj. Every person I knew who was into rap talked about it.

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

Didnt hear about it till a year later.

Jodeci Cashmoney Parker

Great tape BTW

Sevenwinters6summers

@realtalk youre an industry plant

CDot

Most of these dudes probably came up because of SoundCloud. And Migos and Chief Keef def need to be taken off this list

realtalk

Why lol they sound just like the rest I named , there is no difference , they’re trash just like the rest.

OG Mart!n Tr!gga ✞✈️

i dont think you understand the definition of an industry plant then….

Sevenwinters6summers

Exactly

realtalk

They said artist who’s getting attention from not doing anything lol, having no talent rapping etc

Supreme Trunks

No they said artists who have got a come up out of no where and don’t really have a fan base at first. Most of the artists u named were underground and had a lot of buzz and then finally broke into scene. Most of the people u named I heard before they even made it big.

realtalk

This is the what I just said but in a different way smh lmao

Supreme Trunks

Yeah but I’m saying you can actually track the success of all the people u named. Migos got put on after Versace, Lil Uzi had 7 am, Kodak had No Flockin, Chance had Acid Rap etc.

OG Mart!n Tr!gga ✞✈️

yea but most of the artists you describe did have a fan base prior to growing up. artists like nav on the other plant didn’t seem to have any sort of fanbase before getting cosigns from artists like the weeknd.

jurassicjrod

he named the artists he doesn’t like….only some of them were plants…

Sevenwinters6summers

You most importantly forgot +Young Thug
Off the list-Xxxtencion
-21 Savage

So is it networking or being a industry plant? Im confused. Because i have talked to a lot of top people and if they had of went through with it would i have been a plant too?

rt

chance is connected cause of his pops.

CDot

Not on a music level….on his humanitarian shit, yes but musically Chance had his come up

rt

you don’t think humanitarian connections are also musically connected?

CDot

Nah cause most of these rappers that put on these nobodies could give two shits about reaching out to their community. Especially in Chicago.

rt

We aren’t talking about rappers tho. We talking about producers like justice league and Jake one

CDot

Yeah but Chance had worked with some pretty popular artists back then. Wayne even put him on a mixtape. First time I heard of Chance honestly. You don’t think that’s how he might’ve gotten put on too these producers??

rt

Yeah, to a degree but I think the initial Lync to the big artists was cause of his dad’s connections

CDot

It’s very possible!

Lil freshy

How can u be an industry plant, with no label?…chance has a huge fan base especially in Chicago and he super talented …..Russ just hating cuz people not fucking wit him like they fuck with chance

jurassicjrod

HOW DOES BIRDMAN EVEN HAVE $$$

Killa Cam Newton

Birdman came up the loooong way

jurassicjrod

*wrooooong way…don’t get how many down votes it gets…fuck birdman and anyone associated with him

Killa Cam Newton

Keep in mind if it wasn’t fpr birdman where would lil wayne be …Birdman was the reason they didn’t get swamped by No-limit and others he cut throat

jurassicjrod

lil wayne is great at what he does…but his lane is one way…one artist doesnt make birdman worthy of being like what, a top 5 earner in the entire RAP game (bottom to top)? HELL for what? lyrical content? a message? are his beats even bangin for his artists? pshaw……he deserves ZILCH

Killa Cam Newton

I was tuned in when b.g dropped his first then the hotboys and next came juvy with huh…and record head who came up before youtube and everything yall got now get much respect

Derek, Yo Homie

Birdman came up off his brothers Slim and Terrence

Killa Cam Newton

So we just going to act like he wasnt good on all them hotboy albums

Derek, Yo Homie

But Birdman wasn’t a hot boy he wasn’t even an original hot boy but his brother was

Killa Cam Newton

Birdman was the face of Cash Money the boss. Mr Bling Bling

Derek, Yo Homie

Birdman was the clown face of cash money but not the brains that was always Slim and he wasn’t the muscle or hustler either that was Terrence who put up the 100 racks to start cash money who doing 250 some yrs in the feds for being in the real life street crew the hot boys… Birdman was always the lil annoying brother of some real hittas

George Files

birdman from canada

jurassicjrod

i wouldn’t ever take my time to research someone named bird man so if that’s true, that is news to me

Killa Cam Newton

Chance came up because that acid had so much buzz. Its bs that ak taking that away from him ..When you talk about God/Jesus in your music you in a diff lane

Supreme Trunks

That’s a hard lane to be in at that. Most people ain’t trying to hear the positivity angle. Especially when you can say chance literally does different projects. All of them have a different sound

Sevenwinters6summers

Nice job hiphopearly on postin’ that complex video.

Cuban Pete

I never listened to Chance, still dont tbf, then he won a grammy. Cant name one song. Plant

Jesse Mccree

Bruh I don’t like Chance’s personality and phony activism but his music is fire. Acid Rap is a 2010’s classic no doubt. Give it a listen it’s only 1 hour of your life. How can you even make that claim if you never listened to the music?

Cuban Pete

I have listened to some stuff obviously lol, I mean I never stayed listening

Chance night be a plant to some extent you guys are ignoring the obvious that all these dudes had some sort of fan base the industry pays attention to what the zombies like so they use them nigga as the plants because if they got enough of a small local buzz with local zombies it’ll be easier to push their shit. And now was right about it being more prevalent in r&b/pop

White Guilt

All they do is argue. Their show is going to get old fast.

just another white nigga

i dont know anyone that listens to chance, but apparently hes huge. ive always thought somethin was fishy about him. and comin up as a street hustler, i pride myself in always knowin when somethin dont feel right.