Vegan Burger's Dominance....Meat is dead!

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I use a lotta haldi/turmeric (powder) as well. I buy it in very large quantities from Indian grocery stores... helluva lot cheaper than buying it in small quantities in regular (American) grocery stores here.

Put it into my steel-cut oatmeal this morning -- also added Ceylon cinnamon, lecithin granules, soaked China seeds, extra oat bran and a bit of black pepper, butter and sugarless (sugar alcohol) syrup. The lecithin and the back pepper is supposed to improve the bioavailability of the turmeric. Cooking turmeric also improves its availability.

I also add haldi powder to my pizzas, taco and other dishes. Sometimes drink OJ or Kombucha or other probiotic drink with turmeric. Use it in teas, especially my anti-inflammatory, antibiotic tea -- hot green tea, Manuka honey with a little bit of lemon juice, black pepper and lecithin.

Omg you are a pro. We use it in our traditional dishes of course. I have no idea what Kombucha is though. Let me Google it. I hate the taste of raw turmeric though. It tastes awful. It's nice when it's cooked.

Talk Tennis Guru

Omg you are a pro. We use it in our traditional dishes of course. I have no idea what Kombucha is though. Let me Google it. I hate the taste of raw turmeric though. It tastes awful. It's nice when it's cooked.

I just noticed that spellcheck changed chia seeds to China seeds. Grrr. Kombucha is a type of fermented tea. Supposedly has health benefits. I don't drink it that often... unless I find a version with turmeric or lemon & ginger (root). Usually I'll have a probiotic drink (like Kevita) instead of Kombucha.

Yeah haldi powder or raw turmeric is kinda nasty taste-wise. But it's not quite as bad, to my taste buds, as raw tulsi (holy basil). Tulsi tea is not too bad with other flavoring. The turmeric is not very noticeable in the foods that I use it in. The lecithin (granules), Ceylon cinnamon and black pepper help to mask it. Clove powder or curry powder can help to hide it as well.

Bionic Poster

Finally tried it this weekend. Went to a Carls Jr and ordered the Jalapeno Thickburger with Beyond Meat. Unlike the veggie patties of the past, this has the texture of meat. I cannot compare with beef hamburgers because I have never had one, but definitely it is good competition for chicken.

G.O.A.T.

Finally tried it this weekend. Went to a Carls Jr and ordered the Jalapeno Thickburger with Beyond Meat. Unlike the veggie patties of the past, this has the texture of meat. I cannot compare with beef hamburgers because I have never had one, but definitely it is good competition for chicken.

I'd say that the vast majority wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind taste test (Impossible Burger that is). It sounds like this is the case for Beyond Meat too. It would be interesting if they made lobster, claims, all sorts of things that vegetarians couldn't eat before - as it would widen their palate.

Legend

I'd say that the vast majority wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind taste test (Impossible Burger that is). It sounds like this is the case for Beyond Meat too. It would be interesting if they made lobster, claims, all sorts of things that vegetarians couldn't eat before - as it would widen their palate.

I've had the Beyond Burger. It's the closest veggie burger to meat I've tasted but I can still tell it isn't meat. I won't buy it again; even though I don't eat meat often I would rather have a dish of something else. Haven't tried the Impossible Burger though, am curious to see what that's like.

Bionic Poster

I'd say that the vast majority wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blind taste test (Impossible Burger that is). It sounds like this is the case for Beyond Meat too. It would be interesting if they made lobster, claims, all sorts of things that vegetarians couldn't eat before - as it would widen their palate.

Bionic Poster

Professional

I thank GOD every day that there are people smarter than I am. Finding good financial recommendations caused me to find the following:

When comparing Beyond Meat to real beef, because of Beyond Meat's recent IPO, the food labeling stickers were examined. So to start with Beyond Meat's labeling. First there is no mention of Fat content.

So working to establish Beyond Meat's fat percentage, it was found to be a 63% of calories come from fat. Calories from real beef is at 47%.
Also, the price is about 12$ for a pound of Beyond Meat vs. real beef costing about half that amount. Therefore, you will get eating real beef 30.7
grams of protein from a 4 ounce serving with 12.5 grams of fat. Now get this, with Beyond Meat you receive 20 grams of protein per 4 ounce serving, along with 19 grams of fat.

The down side to veggie fake beef is double the price of real beef, plus more sodium (bad for hearts), no good cholesterol and a poor ratio of protein to fat consumed.

So if your willing to consume fake beef, I suggest you stock up on the fish oil to ensure that your arteries don't get clogged, be willing to
pay twice the price for less result. Remember you will have to almost consume twice as much to get the same results. As P.T. Barnum said, "there
is a sucker born every minute".

G.O.A.T.

I thank GOD every day that there are people smarter than I am. Finding good financial recommendations caused me to find the following:

When comparing Beyond Meat to real beef, because of Beyond Meat's recent IPO, the food labeling stickers were examined. So to start with Beyond Meat's labeling. First there is no mention of Fat content.

So working to establish Beyond Meat's fat percentage, it was found to be a 63% of calories come from fat. Calories from real beef is at 47%.
Also, the price is about 12$ for a pound of Beyond Meat vs. real beef costing about half that amount. Therefore, you will get eating real beef 30.7
grams of protein from a 4 ounce serving with 12.5 grams of fat. Now get this, with Beyond Meat you receive 20 grams of protein per 4 ounce serving, along with 19 grams of fat.

The down side to veggie fake beef is double the price of real beef, plus more sodium (bad for hearts), no good cholesterol and a poor ratio of protein to fat consumed.

So if your willing to consume fake beef, I suggest you stock up on the fish oil to ensure that your arteries don't get clogged, be willing to
pay twice the price for less result. Remember you will have to almost consume twice as much to get the same results. As P.T. Barnum said, "there
is a sucker born every minute".

Semi-Pro

I suspect the latest vegi burger doesn't taste all that similar to beef. All the news we hear about it is likely hyped paid promotion.

Will be interesting to see how it works out in the end though. It's new and people tend to want to try out the latest product. If it tastes good enough it might be a good long term seller. If not all that tasty it will be another bland vegi burger being sold.

G.O.A.T.

I thank GOD every day that there are people smarter than I am. Finding good financial recommendations caused me to find the following:

When comparing Beyond Meat to real beef, because of Beyond Meat's recent IPO, the food labeling stickers were examined. So to start with Beyond Meat's labeling. First there is no mention of Fat content.

G.O.A.T.

I suspect the latest vegi burger doesn't taste all that similar to beef. All the news we hear about it is likely hyped paid promotion.

Will be interesting to see how it works out in the end though. It's new and people tend to want to try out the latest product. If it tastes good enough it might be a good long term seller. If not all that tasty it will be another bland vegi burger being sold.

Go and try one out yourself and let us know. These are at my local supermarket now. I've only tried the Impossible Burger myself but a friend has tried the Beyond Meat version and told me that it's very good.

Professional

Ate a burger just now... Tasty but the preparation was just wrong. There shouldnt be cartilege in every 4 bites. Itll break your teeth and cut your gums. Veggie burger with meat flavors would do better than that

Yes, for me veggie dishes are best when they just try to play to their own strengths rather than imitate meat.

But then again, I'm one of those people who never really found meat so unbelievably and incomparably appealing in and of itself, so I could see how those who absolute crave that taste would feel differently.

Talk Tennis Guru

I don't eat a lot of red meat, but I do like the taste. If you put salt and a Maillard Reaction together then the result can be addictive. The meat merely makes that possible.

I think what we have here is a commodification of an alternative food trend which will, indeed, be reasonably successful because it will sell the 'meat experience' to the educated middle-class consumer doing something for the environment,

Legend

I thank GOD every day that there are people smarter than I am. Finding good financial recommendations caused me to find the following:

When comparing Beyond Meat to real beef, because of Beyond Meat's recent IPO, the food labeling stickers were examined. So to start with Beyond Meat's labeling. First there is no mention of Fat content.

So working to establish Beyond Meat's fat percentage, it was found to be a 63% of calories come from fat. Calories from real beef is at 47%.
Also, the price is about 12$ for a pound of Beyond Meat vs. real beef costing about half that amount. Therefore, you will get eating real beef 30.7
grams of protein from a 4 ounce serving with 12.5 grams of fat. Now get this, with Beyond Meat you receive 20 grams of protein per 4 ounce serving, along with 19 grams of fat.

The down side to veggie fake beef is double the price of real beef, plus more sodium (bad for hearts), no good cholesterol and a poor ratio of protein to fat consumed.

So if your willing to consume fake beef, I suggest you stock up on the fish oil to ensure that your arteries don't get clogged, be willing to
pay twice the price for less result. Remember you will have to almost consume twice as much to get the same results. As P.T. Barnum said, "there
is a sucker born every minute".

I suspect the latest vegi burger doesn't taste all that similar to beef. All the news we hear about it is likely hyped paid promotion.

Will be interesting to see how it works out in the end though. It's new and people tend to want to try out the latest product. If it tastes good enough it might be a good long term seller. If not all that tasty it will be another bland vegi burger being sold.

Taste tests of the Impossible Burger have been done by many different entities with varying interests and the strong consensus is that they taste like traditional meat-based burgers, but better than most.

Impossible Foods is trying to give meat eaters everything they want from a burger, but in a more sustainable way. Vegetarians and vegans may like it, but they have many alternatives. The Chinese government realizes that the country's increasing demand for meat can't be met, and cattle raising is an inefficient and unsustainable way to provide the country's protein demands. Top members of the Politburo have done a special testing of the Impossible Burger and were impressed.

G.O.A.T.

Ate a burger just now... Tasty but the preparation was just wrong. There shouldnt be cartilege in every 4 bites. Itll break your teeth and cut your gums. Veggie burger with meat flavors would do better than that

G.O.A.T.

The Impossible Burger has a very different nutritional profile than the Beyond Meat burger. Aloha.

Taste tests of the Impossible Burger have been done by many different entities with varying interests and the strong consensus is that they taste like traditional meat-based burgers, but better than most.

Impossible Foods is trying to give meat eaters everything they want from a burger, but in a more sustainable way. Vegetarians and vegans may like it, but they have many alternatives. The Chinese government realizes that the country's increasing demand for meat can't be met, and cattle raising is an inefficient and unsustainable way to provide the country's protein demands. Top members of the Politburo have done a special testing of the Impossible Burger and were impressed.

Semi-Pro

Go and try one out yourself and let us know. These are at my local supermarket now. I've only tried the Impossible Burger myself but a friend has tried the Beyond Meat version and told me that it's very good.

One of these days I'll likely to give it a try. I have a stomach condition that responds to diet. At the moment i'm not interested in trying something like this, with my stomach doing well.

From my stand point, having worked in the food industry in the past, I can remember reading industry articles about how 70% of sales come from new products or even new packaging. It's in part why food companies look to upgrade their products and then label as New and improved. Labeling or advertising as new catches customers attention and generates sales.

So, it will be interesting to me if this new vegi burger does well long term. It is certainly receiving publicity of late. I hope it does well. I guess with it being in part soy the mid-west farmers will enjoy seeing a new market for their soybeans. I used to live in the middle of soybean country, not that far from ADM.

Talk Tennis Guru

So, it will be interesting to me if this new vegi burger does well long term. It is certainly receiving publicity of late. I hope it does well. I guess with it being in part soy the mid-west farmers will enjoy seeing a new market for their soybeans. I used to live in the middle of soybean country, not that far from ADM.

Semi-Pro

Professional

They don't serve the Burger King Impossible burger here in Cali yet but I did try the Carls Jr. Beyond Burger and I really couldn't tell the difference from a beef one. If they would use vegan mayo made from olive oil as a condiment option would help cut down on the fat/calories but I don't eat burgers too often but its nice to know I can still eat one and not feel guilty about endulging.

Think about the things beyond meat can replace in most recipes that call for ground meat like chili, lasagna, spaghetti etc. What took so long? Now if the demand increases and supply is not able to keep up then there could be a problem.

G.O.A.T.

They don't serve the Burger King Impossible burger here in Cali but I did try the Carls Jr. Beyond Burger and I really couldn't tell the difference from a beef one. If they would use vegan mayo made from olive oil as a condiment option would help cut down on the fat/calories but I don't eat burgers too often but its nice to know I can still eat one and not feel guilty about endulging.

Think about the things beyond meat can replace in most recipes that call for ground meat like chili, lasagna, spaghettti etc. What took so long? Now if the demand increases and supply is not able to keep up then there could be a problem.

Talk Tennis Guru

Professional

Vegetarian eating meat for first time in 22 years. I think she's having a change of heart seems like it. I'm not sure if she's a real vegetarian because most people who swear off meat don't enjoy eating meat this much! Even meat eaters don't have this much fun eating it....hmmmm.

Talk Tennis Guru

Vegetarian eating meat for first time in 22 years. I think she's having a change of heart seems like it. I'm not sure if she's a real vegetarian because most people who swear off meat don't enjoy eating meat this much! Even meat eaters don't have this much fun eating it....hmmmm.

Bionic Poster

I thank GOD every day that there are people smarter than I am. Finding good financial recommendations caused me to find the following:

When comparing Beyond Meat to real beef, because of Beyond Meat's recent IPO, the food labeling stickers were examined. So to start with Beyond Meat's labeling. First there is no mention of Fat content.

So working to establish Beyond Meat's fat percentage, it was found to be a 63% of calories come from fat. Calories from real beef is at 47%.
Also, the price is about 12$ for a pound of Beyond Meat vs. real beef costing about half that amount. Therefore, you will get eating real beef 30.7
grams of protein from a 4 ounce serving with 12.5 grams of fat. Now get this, with Beyond Meat you receive 20 grams of protein per 4 ounce serving, along with 19 grams of fat.

The down side to veggie fake beef is double the price of real beef, plus more sodium (bad for hearts), no good cholesterol and a poor ratio of protein to fat consumed.

So if your willing to consume fake beef, I suggest you stock up on the fish oil to ensure that your arteries don't get clogged, be willing to
pay twice the price for less result. Remember you will have to almost consume twice as much to get the same results. As P.T. Barnum said, "there
is a sucker born every minute".

The beef industry is already concerned and has mounted an attack. A lot of cholesterol cannot be compared to no cholesterol, as much of it can be bad cholesterol. Also not shown is that beef is higher in fat (that is not true for the Impossible). The combination of high cholesterol and fat is the killer in red meat.

The sodium content is a matter of concern though. The claim is that no further seasoning is needed while restaurants will add salt to the patty when cooking it. The sodium content is being reduced.

And the argument about no gluten no soy is intentionally misleading. Only foods which are usually likely to have gluten or soy are labeled this way if they don't have it. You don't put a "Consume by June 31" sticker on a sofa.

What you posted is just the fear of the beef industry that its business will be hurt. It shows that they are willing to treat it as a war, while all credible medical bodies are advising against red meat. Already, there is enormous focus on the conditions of the animals, mad cow disease, the environmental impact on food and water, etc. So this industry is on the edge about any new products as the per capita consumption of beef in the US has been decreasing for over 2 decades.

G.O.A.T.

The beef industry is already concerned and has mounted an attack. A lot of cholesterol cannot be compared to no cholesterol, as much of it can be bad cholesterol. Also not shown is that beef is higher in fat (that is not true for the Impossible). The combination of high cholesterol and fat is the killer in red meat.

The sodium content is a matter of concern though. The claim is that no further seasoning is needed while restaurants will add salt to the patty when cooking it. The sodium content is being reduced.

And the argument about no gluten no soy is intentionally misleading. Only foods which are usually likely to have gluten or soy are labeled this way if they don't have it. You don't put a "Consume by June 31" sticker on a sofa.

What you posted is just the fear of the beef industry that its business will be hurt. It shows that they are willing to treat it as a war, while all credible medical bodies are advising against red meat. Already, there is enormous focus on the conditions of the animals, mad cow disease, the environmental impact on food and water, etc. So this industry is on the edge about any new products as the per capita consumption of beef in the US has been decreasing for over 2 decades.

I think that the Impossible Burger uses soy protein but I don't know if this is the problem with soy in general or if soy protein is fine. At any rate, these two companies can redesign the ingredients if they want to or need to. If soy is a problem, they can come up with another plant protein. There's nothing stopping them from producing a low-sodium product in the future. These guys are just getting started. Morningstar Farms has a whole section in our frozen food sections. I think that they had something like 15 different products on display.

I agree that the beef industry is very worried. I think that most people are looking at these new foods with a bit of derision right now but I could see all kinds of meats being synthesized with a variety of benefit.

Talk Tennis Guru

G.O.A.T.

The trading bloc’s agriculture committee wants to ban vegan food products from using terms such as burger and sausage on their labels. The logic is that consumers expect their burgers to be made of pork or beef and will be duped by plant-based pretenders.

More likely the region’s livestock industry smells danger. Meat-alternative products made by companies like Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods appeal to a growing number of consumers that want to cut down on meat. A high-profile report from the EAT-Lancet Commission warned that red-meat consumption needs to halve by 2050 to avoid serious health and environmental problems.

The trading bloc’s agriculture committee wants to ban vegan food products from using terms such as burger and sausage on their labels. The logic is that consumers expect their burgers to be made of pork or beef and will be duped by plant-based pretenders.

More likely the region’s livestock industry smells danger. Meat-alternative products made by companies like Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods appeal to a growing number of consumers that want to cut down on meat. A high-profile report from the EAT-Lancet Commission warned that red-meat consumption needs to halve by 2050 to avoid serious health and environmental problems.