Is my new Toto SS114 toilet seat supposed to be loose and floppy? -with video-

I bought a Toto SS114 seat for my Drake II and it arrived today. It's made in China and very floppy. The seat's mounting flange is bolted to the bowl securely, but the seat and lid are all floppy and move independently from the mount. The seat easily moves around when in use.

It seems there's lots of play in the hinge, allowing the seat and lid to flop side-to-side, even though the seat assembly is tightly bolted to the toilet.

WHat works best is the blind fasteners that probably came with the toilet. The plastic screws and nuts that come with the seat do have slop in them. The blind fasteners are plugs that fit into the hole in the bowl and when you tighten the screw, they expand. These are much more secure. Some of the toilets come with them, not all. You can pick some up at a big box store, though.

WHat works best is the blind fasteners that probably came with the toilet. The plastic screws and nuts that come with the seat do have slop in them. The blind fasteners are plugs that fit into the hole in the bowl and when you tighten the screw, they expand. These are much more secure. Some of the toilets come with them, not all. You can pick some up at a big box store, though.

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I don't think you understand the problem. The movement is not caused by a loose fit where the seat bolts to the toilet, that's a tight fit. The seat and lid are moving independently of the mounting flange. It seems there's lots of play in the hinge.

The mounting flange is securely held to the toilet, but there's a loose fit in the hinge where the seat and lid connect to the mounting flange. The issue is with the way the seat is made, not how it's installed on the toilet.

Watch the video more closely and I think you'll be able to see the issue. In the second half of the video I show a closeup of the mounting flange, which is securely held to the toilet. The movement isn't coming from the hardware supplied with the seat.

I haven't used that Toto seat, but that seems like an awful lot of wiggle room, if its supposed to be like that. A little wiggle should be expected, or the hinge would probably not last long, but that is a lot.

My Kohler (not usually a big fan, but like this seat) moves just a little, but it is solid and stable. You can sit on the lid w/o worry, or at least I can.