Rawhead Rex:Walter Paisley: If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

I work a great job, earn a lot more than 100K a year...not quite 200, but closing in on it fast...So go to hell with the idea that my life isn't as good as his and I'm jealous. He has 60 channels, I have DirecTV's biggest package, however many channels that is, but I know it's WAY past 60.

People like you need to be killed...by the same damn people you triumph or stand up for in cases like this.Please die. Today. Painfully.

Where am I standing up for this prisoner? Where did I approve of anything he did? Your quality of life is subjective and you could be wealthy and still be miserable. If feel strongly enough to wish for my death, maybe you should put more effort into seeking out happiness and durable fulfillment in your life. If you happiness includes the desire for my death, doesn't that make you kind of like the serial killer referenced in TFA?

If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

I really don't have a problem with this. Anyone ever been employed and stuck in their house with nothing to do but watch TV? Imagine being locked in your bedroom/bathroom for 20 hours a day watching the same show on repeat. He brought the equipment, not like it's being furnished for him. I say let him drive himself insane.

Walter Paisley:If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

You're right, I could focus it on people with moronic rationalistic theories.

ZeroCorpse:I'm not okay with this. He's supposed to be suffering punishment for hacking people up. This is more like a reward: You live rent free, don't have to pay for meals, and get cable? Sounds like welfare, not prison.

The Canadian justice system does not focus on punishment or vengeance but rather removal of offenders from society plus possible rehabilitation to re-enter society as a contributing citizen. Not that this guy will be rehabilitated necessarily but that's the general idea for most offenders. What we have here is a vastly different conception of prison between Canada and the US. Is it a fool proof system? maybe not, but it is what it is.

Popcorn Johnny:Teufelaffe: But how can we prove our moral superiority if we don't punish the wicked?

Yes, no cable TV is "punishment".

Actually, on MSNBC's Lockup (I think), some prison warden mentioned that giving pet cats to prisoners works very well to maintain order in the prison because it gives the staff more leverage over the prisoners. Pretty much a "you fark up, you lose your cat for a week" thing.

Then there was the whole "let's give them all iPods!!!" thing a few months ago in the federal system. "You fark up, you lose your iPod". etc. etc.

So I don't see why TV can't be used in this way, too. If it cuts down on violence in the prisons, and if it keeps the prisoners sane enough to reduce their chance of recidivism later on down the line, then why not? And no, "CUZ JUSTICE!!!1 PUNISHMENT!" isn't a very good answer.

Rawhead Rex:Walter Paisley: If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

I work a great job, earn a lot more than 100K a year...not quite 200, but closing in on it fast...So go to hell with the idea that my life isn't as good as his and I'm jealous. He has 60 channels, I have DirecTV's biggest package, however many channels that is, but I know it's WAY past 60.

People like you need to be killed...by the same damn people you triumph or stand up for in cases like this.Please die. Today. Painfully.

Teufelaffe:Popcorn Johnny: Teufelaffe: Here's the funny thing subby, when you treat prisoners like humans instead of livestock they're less likely to become repeat offenders when they get out,

Here's the thing, if prison is like a country club, there's no reason for criminals to think twice about getting busted and spending the rest of their lives locked up.

Bastøy Prison, with the lowest re-offense rate in Europe, would like to have a word with you. Turns out, when you treat people like they have worth as humans, they become a lot more likely to end up actually having worth as humans. Whoda thunk it?

So much this. I don't get why people think the US prison system is somehow effective at anything other than making more dangerous criminals.

"I don't understand why my dog is still misbehaving. Every time he misbehaves, I make sure to beat him with a length of hose and lock him in the closet for hours.

Popcorn Johnny:Teufelaffe: Here's the funny thing subby, when you treat prisoners like humans instead of livestock they're less likely to become repeat offenders when they get out,

Here's the thing, if prison is like a country club, there's no reason for criminals to think twice about getting busted and spending the rest of their lives locked up.

Bastøy Prison, with the lowest re-offense rate in Europe, would like to have a word with you. Turns out, when you treat people like they have worth as humans, they become a lot more likely to end up actually having worth as humans. Whoda thunk it?

Here's the funny thing subby, when you treat prisoners like humans instead of livestock they're less likely to become repeat offenders when they get out, and you get to keep the moral superiority that you're better than they are because you're treating them humanely when you don't have to. For those that are never getting out, there's nothing to be gained by treating them like shiat.

And those people who wish that Bad Things happen to prison inmates are more than a little creepy. That's just as bad as the Christians who entertain themselves by picturing the torments of (other people's) souls in hell.

One of the first things they teach in Serial Killing 101 is "choose victims who won't be missed in a way that doesn't leave tracks." Pick up a drug-addict hooker at 3 A.M., for example. This Twitchell guy might as well have called the prison and reserved a cell.

If we're going to keep these people in prison we might as well keep them from hurting each other. A bulk rate on basic cable has got to be cheaper than hundreds of sharpened toothbrush removals, e.g.

Mind you I still see nothing wrong with capital punishment for the violent & stupid, like this guy. But even then they should be done in as quickly and as painlessly as possible. Shooting, guillotining and pharmaceutical euthanasia are all fine by me.

The key is being more humane than they are. If we're no better than they are what are we punishing them for? "For getting caught" ain't good enough.

lewismarktwo:Rawhead Rex: Walter Paisley: If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

I work a great job, earn a lot more than 100K a year...not quite 200, but closing in on it fast...So go to hell with the idea that my life isn't as good as his and I'm jealous. He has 60 channels, I have DirecTV's biggest package, however many channels that is, but I know it's WAY past 60.

People like you need to be killed...by the same damn people you triumph or stand up for in cases like this.Please die. Today. Painfully.

lofarkingl

"People who murder others shouldn't be treated humanely by the justice system. I will murder the next person who suggests otherwise!"

I'm not okay with this. He's supposed to be suffering punishment for hacking people up. This is more like a reward: You live rent free, don't have to pay for meals, and get cable? Sounds like welfare, not prison.

Walter Paisley:If the goal of imprisoning a serial killer is removing that person from society, then this is still doing that. I imagine the outrage about this is probably rooted at least in part by jealousy about the relative quality of life of a prisoner vs. that of free citizens. Instead of getting upset at the prison, take a look at the opportunities you have or don't have if you think a prisoner has a better life than you. If you see nothing but a future of shiat wages, no benefits, a 50+ hour work week just to pay rent for a studio apartment, a mountain of debt in exchange for an education, etc... then there are better places to focus your anger than this prison.

I work a great job, earn a lot more than 100K a year...not quite 200, but closing in on it fast...So go to hell with the idea that my life isn't as good as his and I'm jealous. He has 60 channels, I have DirecTV's biggest package, however many channels that is, but I know it's WAY past 60.

People like you need to be killed...by the same damn people you triumph or stand up for in cases like this.Please die. Today. Painfully.

If that dumbass killed someone I cared about and then was allowed to watch cable TV all day...I'd seriously pray and try to PAY for him to be brutally raped in the very bed/cot he watches Dexter on.And hopefully, if timed right, he'll be raped while Dexter is on so that every memory of Dexter becomes a memory of his asshole being stretched to unnatural proportions.farkheads.