<quoted text>I don't disagree with that. But treaties deal with our relations with other countries and not within ourselves. A good example would be the ABM treaty that President bush unilaterally broke with Russia without any consent of Congress. Another would be the Treaty with Korea over its nuclear program that Clinton made, the Senate approved and then Congress refused to fund.

Name one American citizen that has ever been arrested, tried and convicted based solely on a treaty. A treaty is meaningless without the legal framework to back it up.

You didn't disagree with where's my America. Now you disagree with me saying the same thing.

<quoted text>And you are going to raise taxes at the state level how much to do this?Some of the things you say makes it appear that you speak in a vacuum. Meaning that you don't think your ideas have secondary or tertiery effects.Your state just got through laying off how many teachers and what has their pay increased over the last 4 - 5 years?

Of course here is an after effect.

No reversal of a bad direction will be accomplished without some pain.

Poor government union teachers! Maybe hey could QUALIFY for a job in he /private sector or a charter school!

<quoted text>Of course here is an after effect.No reversal of a bad direction will be accomplished without some pain.Poor government union teachers! Maybe hey could QUALIFY for a job in he /private sector or a charter school!?Pay increases are a guarantee?PWhat was the private sector pay increase over the same time period?

<quoted text>So true.I just purchased a piece of history from way back. Winchester 1885 with a patent date of Oct. 7 1879. I think it's my new favorite.

Nice, superb piece of history. My current oldest is an 1873 Springfield trap door. It shoots old black powder 45-70 government. I do enjoy shooting black powder. Donít care for the cleanup which comes later the *same* day.

<quoted text>Nice, superb piece of history. My current oldest is an 1873 Springfield trap door. It shoots old black powder 45-70 government. I do enjoy shooting black powder. Don¬ít care for the cleanup which comes later the *same* day.

I hear that. The clean up IS a pain. Makes you wonder how they did it in the Civil War. What did they use for bore butter? Lol.

<quoted text>Of course here is an after effect.No reversal of a bad direction will be accomplished without some pain.Poor government union teachers! Maybe hey could QUALIFY for a job in he /private sector or a charter school!?Pay increases are a guarantee?PWhat was the private sector pay increase over the same time period?

First, I failed to express my point clearly. It had nothing to do with teachers but the fact that the state was hurting for money and has taken many steps to deal with that shortage. One of those steps was laying off teachers and foregoing pay increases. But they did the same thing to police, fire and other local and state workers; the released prisoners from jail and prison due to cost; they cut back on services and programs to include assistance to the mentally ill.

Now given all of that, you want to add additional expenses to the state and local governments as they assume responsibilities currently performed at the federal level.

BTW: Many states do not allow teachers to have active unions.

Private pay increases in the private sector depends on where you work. At the bottom is has sucked, as an executive it has been richly rewarding. Your point is what, it is absolutely fair and right that executives get richly rewarded for laying people off and holding their salaries and wages down, right?

<quoted text>Nice, superb piece of history. My current oldest is an 1873 Springfield trap door. It shoots old black powder 45-70 government. I do enjoy shooting black powder. Donít care for the cleanup which comes later the *same* day.

use near boiling soapy water, swab out bore. Then some military bore cleaner. In a pinch Hoppes would work, but the older military bore cleaner was good on corrosive ammo. If one does not clean black poweder arms soon, it will be a rust bucket within an overnight delay.I used to Civil War reenact, I have had to clean muskets/revolvers.They are a blast to shoot, but a mess to clean.

<quoted text>I'm simply pointing out that you obviously do NOT know the definition of MISFIRE.

Misfire: to fail to go off as expected.

Do you expect a pistol to fire whenever it is dropped?

Are you trying to divert away from the people who are killed by the idiots like yourself who for some reason find a need to have a pistol with them when they go into the bathroom at Wal*mart to take a crap?

Or insist they need to take a gun into a kindergarten during parents-teacher conference (never can tell when a five year old might show up with his daddy's assault rifle)?

Are you trying to divert away from the people who are killed by the idiots like yourself who for some reason find a need to have a pistol with them when they go into the bathroom at Wal*mart to take a crap?

Or insist they need to take a gun into a kindergarten during parents-teacher conference (never can tell when a five year old might show up with his daddy's assault rifle)?

<quoted text>Of course, you forgot to mention the goalposts were moved from the original statement that dropped guns **NEVER** went off.

Or do you want to redefine the word "off" now?

You might also look up the word "most" and let me know when you find the definition that says it means "all".

Please show me where I said that dropped firearms never go off. I stated that guns manufactured in the last quarter century have failsafes to prevent that from happening.Do people have handguns older than 25 years, yes. Is a CCW holder dumb enough to be that careless, highly doubtful. If it happens it's more likely to be Maw maw dropping it out of her purse.

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