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Is the EP8 a whole message to the reader that " Stop seeking the so-called truth, seek the best outcome for yourself(Ange). And by the way, Umineko is not supposed to be solvable anyway. "

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I cannot say for sure. However, indications seem that the mystery is downplayed in favor of Ange's personal satisfaction. As in, the game is more worried about Ange and her accepting what happened and also worried about OldBattler. Also, I know the question will come up, so in advance, NO, I do not know anything for sure about asylum Battler, hobo Battler, old Battler, amnesia Battler, or any other bad/good/however you see it ending that people on /jp/ swear to. All I saw was a bunch of low-key scenes between an OldBattler sprite and Hachijo.

Does this affect anything? What happens when you pick someone like Gohda or Hideyoshi?

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Bern laughs at you, and then there are a few (seemingly randomized for each bad choice) scenes where Battler and Beato talk things over. I infer that in those scenes they give you a few extra hints as you listen in on the couple's thoughts. But until you pick the correct culprit, the game will not let you advance.

I recommend not reading the next spoiler unless you really don't care about being spoiled. If you know the 'real culprit' in advance, then the whole Murder Game (a big part of the middle part of the game) is pointless since you won't get to reason anything out.

Again, do not read the next spoiler if you do not want to know the true culprit.

I cannot say for sure. However, indications seem that the mystery is downplayed in favor of Ange's personal satisfaction. As in, the game is more worried about Ange and her accepting what happened and also worried about OldBattler. Also, I know the question will come up, so in advance, NO, I do not know anything for sure about asylum Battler, hobo Battler, old Battler, amnesia Battler, or any other bad/good/however you see it ending that people on /jp/ swear to. All I saw was a bunch of low-key scenes between an OldBattler sprite and Hachijo.

Well, Ryu07 did say in his interview that EP7 has already concluded the mystery part of Umineko. So it is not a big surprise that EP8 downplayed the mystery.

For better or worse, as of now, this is our True End. In the Bad End, Ange is told bluntly and in Red by almost everyone what is what happened in Rokkenjima, but Ange was unable to accept that truth. She decided that the world and the Red Truth were wrong. She decided to create her own Red Truth with her blood, and thus, she committed suicide.

As for the True End, I think you'll have to read the full story or read more spoilers to grasp the whole thing. How can I put it? As a story, is not really bad, in fact, it's a really heart-warming story about a broken man, who's lost everything and who's trying to piece himself together again, finally being able to succeed at the end. I swear, the final exchange of words between him and Beato (whether it occurred or not, or however it may have occurred if it did occur) was seriously too nice. I was honestly moved.

Of course, as mystery is related, I'll put it bluntly, Umineko is no mystery novel at all. I don't know if R07 thinks this count as one, but in my opinion, no matter how you may look at this work, it simply doesn't fall into the category. Sure, there were several puzzle, and an apparent mystery, but in the end, for the overall story, the mystery mattered very little. In fact, as far as the reader is concerned, finding out what actually happened in Rokkenjima is simply not possible. We can, indeed, find out who Beato is and her plan, but, in the end, whatever her plan may have been, the incident in Rokkenjima is not Beato's fault. In fact, she didn't even plan things turning out this way.

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The mystery part was really downplayed, and frankly badly done. He kept setting up red herrings and once people wanted an actual answer he was like "nah I got nothing."

I'm not disappointed in the story because I never had any high expectations for it, but Ryuukishi's speeches about mysteries and fantasy sure feel more hypocritical now that he failed to live up to his own hype.

When the island starts to be swarmed by millions of goats, Will and Dlanor tag-team helps to defend all the others. Erika is there...ambiguously for me. At first she protects Ange and seems to side with Ange against Battler and Beato, but at the very end

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in the Tea Party she is jumping around and being happy with her master Bernkastel and Lambdadelta all over again.

Lion is there to look cool, and for moral support for Will. (In other words I don't know).

I'm really trying my best to tell you guys as much as I can without spreading false rumours >_<

When the island starts to be swarmed by millions of goats, Will and Dlanor tag-team helps to defend all the others. Erika is there...ambiguously for me. At first she protects Ange and seems to side with Ange against Battler and Beato, but at the very end

Spoiler:

in the Tea Party she is jumping around and being happy with her master Bernkastel and Lambdadelta all over again.

Lion is there to look cool, and for moral support for Will. (In other words I don't know).

I'm really trying my best to tell you guys as much as I can without spreading false rumours >_<

Knox and Dine DREAM TAG TEAM.

Do Will/Erika/Dlanor get into a logic battle?

...Also very important, is the rumor about Will becoming rich and then becoming a badminton player real?

The mystery part was really downplayed, and frankly badly done. He kept setting up red herrings and once people wanted an actual answer he was like "nah I got nothing."

I'm not disappointed in the story because I never had any high expectations for it, but Ryuukishi's speeches about mysteries and fantasy sure feel more hypocritical now that he failed to live up to his own hype.

It's a nice story, but it isn't a mystery.

Spoiler:

By his own interview, Ryukishi stated that the mystery ended with EP7. And it did for me. I got all the answers I wanted, and inferred the rest. In my opinion, there is enough material to figure it out. Just as he said, he won't tell it to us straight like he did Higurashi. And I'm completely fine with that. EP6 ended the story of Beato and Battler. EP7 ended the mystery. EP8 tied up the metaworld by smashing Bern and explaining (or trying to) the meta-actions going on at the Author Level.

Did they reveal who Yashiro Ikuko is or anything? Ikuko could be romanized as "19" and "child", so I think she could've been Yasu.

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If I recall correctly, Yashiro Ikuko is the pen name that Battler and Hachijo collectively use when they published their Umineko stories.

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Originally Posted by Sherringford

Knox and Dine DREAM TAG TEAM.

Do Will/Erika/Dlanor get into a logic battle?

...Also very important, is the rumor about Will becoming rich and then becoming a badminton player real?

Spoiler:

Will and Dlanor do a bit of fighting, but are not prominent (honestly they got their fair share of screentime in EPs 5, 6, and 7.) Erika on the other hand is involved in numerous, very epic text battles.

As for the badminton thing, such a spoiler would only appear in the text so I do not know. As far as I can remember, there is no 'closure' for Will (or many other metacharacters), because they are just that - metacharacters.

By his own interview, Ryukishi stated that the mystery ended with EP7. And it did for me. I got all the answers I wanted, and inferred the rest. In my opinion, there is enough material to figure it out. Just as he said, he won't tell it to us straight like he did Higurashi. And I'm completely fine with that. EP6 ended the story of Beato and Battler. EP7 ended the mystery. EP8 tied up the metaworld by smashing Bern and explaining (or trying to) the meta-actions going on at the Author Level.

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I feel that episode 7 in itself isn't a mystery. Ellery Queen, it ain't. The clues towards Rudolf/Kyrie being the culprit are minimal at the most and not enough to be considered logical.

It wouldn't pass JDC's fair mystery test as he detailed in his essay. Episode 6 was fine, episode 7 was fine, episode 8 was a bit of a letdown.

I take the same stance here as Will did during his last stand against Bern. This isn't a mystery, but 07's fantasy.