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Indeed, trickers named it Hurricane Kick after Ryu's move. And he did land (or at least he's landed them plenty of times before, so I'm pretty sure this one too). Now for a Korean who does them like nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-2Fb1wafIo

Not gymnastics. None of the people in the video are gymnasts. Almost all martial arts background. It's called martial arts tricking. While it contains some moves from gymnastics, it also includes TKD, capoeira, breakdancing, etc. Evolving from sport karate, it now is a completely distinct art form. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtn68dX-iw

I don't know why so many of your comments are being downvoted. People in this thread seem to want to equate tricking and gymnastics, and while visually similar they simply aren't the same. Sorry you're getting so many dvotes.

Only someone who doesn't train or know gymnastics would say that. Most of tricking's heritage comes from martial arts (taekwondo, capoeira, karate, etc). A portion comes from gymnastics. A portion from breakdancing. Movements are almost exclusively non-linear (a corkscrew versus a fulltwist in gymnastics). Transitions are different. Expression is prioritized, versus competition in gymnastics. Having done both, I assure you they are not at all the same.

You're right, I have only a little experience with martial arts and less with gymnastics. Just like most people. Formally you can define these things however you want, but you can do that with anything. To most people, this looks like gymnastics with lots of spinning. Gymnastics are cool.

Not specifically for this, no. But tricksters that do train at gyms will do so on the same plyometric floors that gymnasts use, so any decent gymnastic centre will be equipped to your needs. They will also often have trainers there who will be more than happy to teach you basic tumbling techniques.

Trust me, I train alongside some top level gymnasts and no. Gymnastics is completely baffled by nonlinear movement. Mind you, gymnastics has been around a lot longer, so I would agree that overall there's more talent in the gymnastics-practicing body. But it would also be silly to dismiss the moves in here as simple. One of my buddies has been doing gymnastics for 12 years, had dub back, dub front, etc. I cork better than he does, and I've only been tricking for a year.

It's all self-taught. The community is young, so only a handful of places in the world have places where you train formally (one in New York, one in Los Angeles, etc). The only teachers we have are pain and each other.

I remember a vid of someone who started when they were 35. Never too old to begin, as long as you do find the motivation. And Trickers are no strangers to injury, that's for sure. If not this, I hope you find something that you will find rewarding to do.

My way of describing the difference between gymnastics and tricking is that gymnastics focuses on trying to perfect the moves they give you, while tricking is more of a "holy shit how is it possible you landed that?"

I love tricking, I've personally met all the loopkicks guys in San Jose several times

That's a huge difference though - it's a completely different dimension of movemet. There's another girl I train with, she went to WORLDS for gymnastics. Placed 3rd and 4th for two of her events. She once told me "I have no idea how you do that stuff...it makes no sense to me." On the flipside, the perfection she has achieved for her own skills is way beyond what I can imagine.

It doesn't matter what the difference is and what you seem to think is more important what they're called, nobody cares. I don't know why you think their names are so important, but while they may be different technically, they're the same in terms of what it does for other people.

Call it tricking, but if they want to recognize it as something else you're wasting your time. That's why I said I have no problem with it being called gymnastics. Why have a problem with it?

Oh sorry I didn't read your post carefully I thought you were saying something else. But anyways why would you insist on calling them the same thing? This is clearly not gymnastics. I mean this isn't what's taught in Gymnastics, it's wholly different. Just because it looks the same to you, a layman, doesn't mean anything. Can I call canoeing and kayakking the same? What about a ferrari and a toyota? They're both just vehicles. What about a bicycle and the the saturn V rocket? They're both vehicles. Except for trivial distinctions they perform the same action. What about a human and the star alpha centuri? They're both just collections of matter and energy acting according to the laws of the universe.

I don't understand arguments that are against specification solely on the basis that there exists some trait that the two objects/ideas in question share. From that, everything follows. I guess it comes down to what our intuitive understanding of "=" is. At what level of minuteness of difference are two ideas/objects "not the same"? Well this is again arbitrary as the universe never handed down any set of laws pertaining to one-ness. It's all a construction that we've made culturally or instinctively. I guess the best answer is the one that is the most useful. And I'd argue in this case it's more useful to call gymnastics gymnastics, and call this not-gymnastics. Otherwise it could lead to confusion. If you reject that there are significant distinctions then just make a superset term and put them both there. Call it "Runny-Jumpy-Flippy-Activity". Both Gymnastics and Tricking are one of those. Fair enough?

ok now this is getting into the realm of self-masturbatory need for distinction. I'm not going to even go into they very sorely sensationalist and extremist twisting of my argument, because it has nothing to do with my core point. While I am in fact not a layman, realize that tricking and gymnastics have literally no impact on layman viewers through their definitions. This is something that only holds meaning to people involved, which you and I are. Canoeing and kayakking use different crafts. Ferrari and toyota represent entirely different social classes. Bicycle vs saturn V/humans vs star alpha? Really man? Try a little harder. Someone actually trying to use this stupid an argument is seriously disappointing.

Wow, and now you're getting into semantics. Your whole post is a monument to self-important jackasses that think their "craft" somehow entitles them to feel special about it. The Universe? Set of Laws? Are you shitting me?

seriously, shut the fuck up.

Gymnastics and Tricking has no distinction whatsoever to people watching or have anything to do with anything else that might be affected by the distinction. Especially to the layman, which undoubtedly most people are reddit are. To be clear, I'm not opposing the NAME "tricking," which you people seem to be insistent on forcing everyone to use. I'm opposing the insistence thereof. I said I'm cool with calling it gymnastics, because to people who call it gymnastics in the first place don't fucking care anyway. People who care about what others call what they do are always full of shit, and don't appear to be doing said activity for their own enjoyment. You're trying to force other people to give you distinction because it makes you feel better, when it doesn't fucking matter.

It may not matter to you, but it's extremely important for us that want tricking to grow and progress. What you don't understand is that names are how things get big. If everyone called tricking gymnastics or parkour and we didn't say anything, nobody would go online to search for "tricking." They'd search for something else. When they see it they won't think "tricking." And so anybody who actually tricks never gets noticed. That sucks for us, because that's less chance of us being appreciated for what we do, and less chance for sponsorships and the like. Which, by the way, might be someone's entire livelihood. Give credit where it's due.

either you're trolling or you actually have no idea what your talking about. Very few moves were repeated throughout that video. Just because you couldn't tell the difference doesn't make it masturbatory. And as far as level of difficulty goes (compared to gymnastics), you're talking about two different styles of movement. gymnastics seldom involves off axis rotation and one legged transitions in the way that tricking does. Gymnastics also doesn't have a heavy martial arts influence. So yes, it definitely isn't gymnastics, but in my opinion it's better. and when you say that it's "not-quite" gymnastics, its clear to me that you dont know what you're talking about.

Seriously? xD
That's legitimately disappointing. The relationship of freerunning and tricking is the same as that of freerunning with parkour...but I guess parkour's famous enough that it gets to keep its page.

The formal name is "Extreme Martial Arts Tricking", but tricking is for short. If you think about it "Gymnastics" doesn't tell you anything about the sport either, but it's often short for "Men's Artistic Gymnastics," etc.

'Tricking' has been active as a sport for about 10 years now. It is the culmination of Extreme martial arts and gymnastics, but it's emphasis has always been on martial arts, not gymnastics.

The tricking community isn't that young as OP is suggesting. There are communities all over the world, massive amounts of user generated content and websites, and many tutorials that people can access to improve their skills or communicate with other trickers.

As for comps, there are a few every year, but trickers mainly prefer meetups. at least here in the UK they do. Famous trickers include: Anis (pronounced, A niece) Cheurfa, Sesshoumaru, Jujimufu, Vellu, Matt Emig, Jeremy Marinas and a whole lot more. And yes, there are female trickers.

No, it just frustrates me that people are either too lazy or uneducated to make the distinction. As a layman, I don't have a problem if you mistake the two. But don't act like you know what you're talking about AFTER I correct you, that's just distasteful, and disrespectful.

"mostly on special apparatus"
That's anotherthing. My gymnast friends all hate it when someone looks at floor sports (tricking, cheerleading especially, even though cheer tumbling is wayyy closer to gymnastics than tricking) and calls it gymnastics. Floor is only ONE of MANY elements in gymnastics, most of it is off the floor. That's also an aspect that's underappreciated in gymnastics.

It's new, it's young. Most of the tricking world is trying to get more females to participate, but they're far between the few. It evolved from martial arts, which to begin with has an uneven ratio. Mackensi Emory is considered by most to be the best female tricker currently, though she has a ways to go to catch up to the top: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmdFvo6pg40

Haha you found me. It's been great. Right now over the summer it's just the open gym sessions once a week, so it's a bit slow progress wise. But really I'm just grateful I found it, joining has been perhaps the best decision I've made ever. Seriously.

No, plenty of these guys came from all over the world. In the video I can recognize by face some Finnish, French, and Australian trickers. Since tricking first showed up in the US, the US has more than most countries. But there are huge scenes in Western Europe, Australia, Canada, Russia, and Mexico.

Nice! It always bothers me when organizations call tournaments international ie: World Series, Championships, etc when the only people competing are only US based teams or US and a few other nearby countries.

Tricking in general isn't usually about competition, most people there will tell you they just wanted to have a good gathering and enjoy themselves. But the answer to your question - individual battles winner was Daniel Graham. This guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5a2e8LwMo

They do, actually. Anis - one of the three guys in blue tanks in the beginning (tall, skinny, pale-skinned with fuzz for beard), did everything for Rinzler in Tron Legacy. Jeremy Marinas, the hispanic looking one of the same three, works in stunts and played [either Scorpion or SubZero, I forget which] in Mortal Kombat Legacy. His action reel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9db_rHqcK0g