as proof there is no NO DUPLICATE ITEMS i have 3..yes THREE 1hd swords from sha of fear on my dk...and i got 2 while in there as blood!

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

I personally don't mind the dailies, I think the repping is quick enough (even back when I was still raiding and prepping for raiding).

My issue with the long LFR delay is the dual delay; 1) LFR is the stated catch-up mechanism - delaying this delays catchup, as T14 lfr gear is just not good enought o go into a T15 guild thats already going, you are a drag on the roster in that case.2) Raid Rep is required for the new VP gear - delaying LFR to the tune of more than a month means more burnout on the first parts and less rep gained for someone trying to catch-up via LFR gains of rep to buy the new gear to advance beyond LFR only gear.

Granted, being able to buy Blood Spirits for VP means you can get some (morE) 496 gear for VP, which definately helps, but this isn't the stated catch-up venus, so while it works, its still stupid to delay LFR and say that LFR is the catch-up mechanism.If VP was teh catchup mechanism, they should focus on that, and go back to vp cost converts to JP cost (well with the scarcity of JP, its okay it stays VP) so you can catch up to current penultimate tier by running dungeons essentially.

djlar wrote:I predict yet another "legendary gem" for next patch, what about necks? I'm surprise no neck piece has a gem slot, aren't necklaces ideal for a huge gem hanging in?

I didn't see this being answered (apologies if I missed it!), but there are necks with sockets in T15.

Yeah I haven't seen a neck piece with a slot in ages, that includes the new i522 neck piece that's bought with VPs, I guess I didn't look at the raid's loot table enough.. but it's viable they could intruduce a slot for necks next major patch

- Anyone else find the "run over Occupied Soil with the plow" bugged? It popped the virmen out, but after I killed it the plot stayed "Occupied Soil" and I couldn't do a thing to it. (Couldn't click, plow, or plant it). Logging out and back in fixed it at least.

- Is there any way to undo the "buy the farm" bit? I rather liked the "plant 1 crop for Yoon's daily, then dig it up and put something real there" bit - a free lesser charm and 10 gold! (Unless of course you can get more plots later or something, but all I could see was "plant 8 crops for rep" stuff).

- How exactly do you get Elder Charms now?

- Tamed Degu - took about 6 tries. That's a LONG graveyard run to get back to him! *laugh*

Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.

The irony is that this patch has actually made it WORSE for alts in some regards, unless your alts are capable of doing the new Island dailies. Why? Your main probably has 3-6 Elder Charms from random drops on the island, or from the new caches and whatnot. Your main probably also doesn't need them much to roll for loot in LFR or whatever. Your alts however, that could use them, likely aren't getting them from the older Panda content. Way to go Blizz?

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

I think you get them as random drops in some loot, maybe LFR gold bags and the single player treasure scenario. I don't understand why they took out the quest to convert lesser into elder, though, especially when 5.2 LFR is gated and on a rather slow release.

Koatanga wrote:True about the lack of upgrades. That would make 470 a real pain.

People are surely going to pvp. Even with the new honour gearing being "only" 476 rather than 483, it will be extremely attractive for latecomers to pve.

And by pvp, I mean run Tol Barad for 500-800 honour (and Wintergrasp for up to 500 honour), if your faction predominates on your server.

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halabar wrote:The irony is that this patch has actually made it WORSE for alts in some regards, unless your alts are capable of doing the new Island dailies. Why? Your main probably has 3-6 Elder Charms from random drops on the island, or from the new caches and whatnot. Your main probably also doesn't need them much to roll for loot in LFR or whatever. Your alts however, that could use them, likely aren't getting them from the older Panda content. Way to go Blizz?

Tried to take my priest into LFRs last night after picking up a few more upgrades to put her over the last threshold. Wiped on the first trash pack in HoF barely scraping by every boss and nothing to show for it other than more gold (increased gear drops my ass.). This was of course after the crippling lag made it take me almost an hour and a half to do 11 dailies.

Yep alts are officially benched for the rest of this expansion. Not even going to waste my time anymore.

And why they didn't make it so the coins you get from the isle dailies go towards mogu and kept the old ones they way they were makes absolutely no sense.

Teranoid wrote:And why they didn't make it so the coins you get from the isle dailies go towards mogu and kept the old ones they way they were makes absolutely no sense.

I was actually shocked when I saw that the old turn-in quest was gone. I guess I can just stockpile the lesser charms on my still-gearing alt and use them like mad later in ToT LFR.

I wonder if this will be changed - it doesn't really make much sense. It seems likely that the net result for a player who'd been using the elder charms is that this kind of cancels out the increased drop rates, and giving them a head start on getting gobs of the new mogu ones.

I got 14 elder charms on 2 instance runs last night, 1 key was dropped by a mini-boss, the other key on the final daily quest reward (which also contained 2 elder charms)

The instance is kinda tricky, at first I was owned by the lightning things and traps, too bad you have to spend elder coins to avoid some traps, can they change them to gold or something? first run only gathered 5 elder charms, second run 9, and enough of those scrolls to but rep. Also 2 of the 3 keys needed to summon a monster that a group must kill..

Teranoid wrote:And why they didn't make it so the coins you get from the isle dailies go towards mogu and kept the old ones they way they were makes absolutely no sense.

Single stop shopping for catching up with the isle dailies. 476s for gold, 496s for valor, elder coins for 5.0 raids and not limited on coin acquisition rate. Did the isle today and ended up getting 8 coins.

We live in a society where people born on third base constantly try to steal second, yet we expect people born with two strikes against them to hit a homerun on the first pitch.

Eh true enough. I suppose it could have been worse and they could have said "oh hey you know those 1500 coins you've had from doing dailies? Yeah those won't do shit anymore go farm these now haha suckers"

I did the (I believe) 12 dailies on the Isle with one character. (3 locations, 4 at each spot.) Picked up one from the Shado-Pan guy toward the middle of the island, but didn't do it because A) it was bedtime, and B) there was absolutely no description of what to do.

It said something like "Collect 3 <somethings>, it may take a while." No clue on the map or anywhere else on what to collect/kill/do.

I got no Elder Charms, no "keys" of any type, no "single player scenario", or anything else.

Flex wrote:since this was a common issue in the guild last night.

If you want to get rep for running a heroic/scenario click on the "Star" next to the reputation in the rep pane. 600/400 for old reps and 300/200 for the new one.

There's also a dropdown menu right there on the queueing screen. Not sure if that comes up as an option if you're a non-initiating group member though.

Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.

Can you get Charms from the "Zandalri Scouts" too? I killed one of them (happened across it while looking for Degu), it dropped a box that had 30-ish Kyparite, 10 White Trillium, and a thing that gives 1000 Golden Lotus rep (BoA). Kinda neat.

Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.

Bearing in mind I've not read the patch notes yet... but did anyone else maintain their Valor of the Ancients buff? I haven't done any heroics since reset and it's telling me I'll get 50% increase valor.

On other news, how are you guys "advancing" in the island? our realm is about 1% every hour, that's 1 of 6 locks (maybe 7?), so it will take 100 hours for the first part to be completed, then another 5 or 6, that's almost a whole month, well full LFR won't be until 5 weeks, so..