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Pothole row flares in York

A POLITICAL spat has broken out in York over money set aside to repair potholes and road surfaces.

The council cabinet announced a £2 million pot for roads and footpath repairs in the coming year, but an independent councillor has accused the ruling Labour group of using the money to court votes in marginal seats before next spring’s local elections.

The council has vehemently denied any bias, but Osbaldwick councillor Mark Warters has demanded a full investigation and is due to meet council chief executive Kersten England today to discuss his concerns.

By contrast Cllr Warters’ own Osbaldwick ward is in line for £20,000, while Derwent will get £26,500 and Heslington is not allocated any funds.

Cllr Warters has written to Mrs England and said: “A cursory glance at the proposed additional highway schemes 2014/15 by ward indicates a very disproportionate spread of funding. A cynical person reviewing these figures might reasonably conclude that in the run up to the May 2015 local elections a much larger proportion of funding has been allocated to wards that are seen to be electorally important.”

Sarah Tanburn, the council’s interim director of city and environmental services, said road conditions are assessed annually and the allocation of annual repair funds and the additional £2 million was based on those surveys.

She said: “A budget of three quarters of a million pounds a year is allocated to resurfacing and highways repair, but demand on highway repairs has never been so high.

"The estimated cost of repairing all of York’s roads at once would be in the region of £75 million to £80 million. This is partly because York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years, which has caused additional damage to some footpaths and roads.”

A Labour spokesman added: “Labour listened to York residents in allocating an extra £2 million for road surface repairs. As the director for city and environmental services has confirmed, this allocation was consistent with the standard process for road repairs allocations, which is based on level of need”.

Conservative leader Chris Steward agreed the issue had been politicised, but supported the council officials responsible for prioritising the repairs.

He said: “We don’t question the officer’s professional judgement, but it is wrong the way Labour have played politics by taking the credit for the road repairs, when their record shows they have cut the budget for road repairs in the past and we would have put more in.”

"York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.

"York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.Jim

If this loony lot hadn't wasted so much money on 20mph zones and their other pointless pet projects, there would be a lot more in the pot for sorting out potholes for all areas of York, not just the ones where they think they might gain some seats. Typical politicians! Let's hope they get voted out next year!

If this loony lot hadn't wasted so much money on 20mph zones and their other pointless pet projects, there would be a lot more in the pot for sorting out potholes for all areas of York, not just the ones where they think they might gain some seats. Typical politicians! Let's hope they get voted out next year!Shouter

"The estimated cost of repairing all of York’s roads at once would be in the region of £75 million to £80 million. This is partly because York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years, which has caused additional damage to some footpaths and roads.”

It's primarily because of years of neglect by this and previous councils!

[quote]"The estimated cost of repairing all of York’s roads at once would be in the region of £75 million to £80 million. This is partly because York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years, which has caused additional damage to some footpaths and roads.” [/quote]
It's primarily because of years of neglect by this and previous councils!BL2

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.again

I really don't know why they bothered spending money to introduce 20MPH zones. If they waited just a little bit more? It will be nearly impossible to exceed 20MPH due to the expanding potholes and poor road surfaces.

I really don't know why they bothered spending money to introduce 20MPH zones. If they waited just a little bit more? It will be nearly impossible to exceed 20MPH due to the expanding potholes and poor road surfaces.Thecynic

Shouter wrote:
If this loony lot hadn't wasted so much money on 20mph zones and their other pointless pet projects, there would be a lot more in the pot for sorting out potholes for all areas of York, not just the ones where they think they might gain some seats. Typical politicians! Let's hope they get voted out next year!

Yes, these potholes have got to go.

[quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote:
If this loony lot hadn't wasted so much money on 20mph zones and their other pointless pet projects, there would be a lot more in the pot for sorting out potholes for all areas of York, not just the ones where they think they might gain some seats. Typical politicians! Let's hope they get voted out next year![/p][/quote]Yes, these potholes have got to go.bolero

Speakin of the spy/camera vans...why did i see one last fri afternoon out at cliffe? .(selby ).hope its not another employee who live 25+miles away from york...like his mate at barmby. In the YCC van..........

Speakin of the spy/camera vans...why did i see one last fri afternoon out at cliffe? .(selby ).hope its not another employee who live 25+miles away from york...like his mate at barmby. In the YCC van..........piaggio1

piaggio1 wrote:
Speakin of the spy/camera vans...why did i see one last fri afternoon out at cliffe? .(selby ).hope its not another employee who live 25+miles away from york...like his mate at barmby. In the YCC van..........

He will probably be on call - that is the excuse the council use for any member of staff who get free rides to and from work at our expence . Perhaps a car will be reported as being seen parking on a double yellow line 2 miles from a school and the "Big Brother" van will need to mobilise quickly to cath them!

[quote][p][bold]piaggio1[/bold] wrote:
Speakin of the spy/camera vans...why did i see one last fri afternoon out at cliffe? .(selby ).hope its not another employee who live 25+miles away from york...like his mate at barmby. In the YCC van..........[/p][/quote]He will probably be on call - that is the excuse the council use for any member of staff who get free rides to and from work at our expence . Perhaps a car will be reported as being seen parking on a double yellow line 2 miles from a school and the "Big Brother" van will need to mobilise quickly to cath them!Dr Brian

Platform9 wrote:
interesting to see that the whole of Bootham was recently resurfaced along with certain other roads.

Anyone care to guess the TdF route in a few weeks time?

Well they havent touched Bishopthorpe Rd, right at the start of the route, which has areas where the cars are usually parked that missed out when it was last resurfaced!

[quote][p][bold]Platform9[/bold] wrote:
interesting to see that the whole of Bootham was recently resurfaced along with certain other roads.
Anyone care to guess the TdF route in a few weeks time?[/p][/quote]Well they havent touched Bishopthorpe Rd, right at the start of the route, which has areas where the cars are usually parked that missed out when it was last resurfaced!greenmonkey

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.pedalling paul

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.

What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".

You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .

These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.

Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.

[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.[/p][/quote]The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.
What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".
You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .
These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.
Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.AnotherPointofView

Check out the new man made red full road width pot hole simulators on the A59 approach to York from Poppleton. You have to be hitting these at some speed to stop your filling being shaken out. If they go to this expense to make driving more uncomfortable why should they fill in a few holes which have the same, or in this case, a lesser effect?

Check out the new man made red full road width pot hole simulators on the A59 approach to York from Poppleton. You have to be hitting these at some speed to stop your filling being shaken out. If they go to this expense to make driving more uncomfortable why should they fill in a few holes which have the same, or in this case, a lesser effect?strangebuttrue?

strangebuttrue? wrote:
Check out the new man made red full road width pot hole simulators on the A59 approach to York from Poppleton. You have to be hitting these at some speed to stop your filling being shaken out. If they go to this expense to make driving more uncomfortable why should they fill in a few holes which have the same, or in this case, a lesser effect?

Too true. I still can't believe how bad the strips are to drive over, even at very slow speeds. The lanes seem ridiculously narrow too.

[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote:
Check out the new man made red full road width pot hole simulators on the A59 approach to York from Poppleton. You have to be hitting these at some speed to stop your filling being shaken out. If they go to this expense to make driving more uncomfortable why should they fill in a few holes which have the same, or in this case, a lesser effect?[/p][/quote]Too true. I still can't believe how bad the strips are to drive over, even at very slow speeds. The lanes seem ridiculously narrow too.DooftheDog

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast!eeoodares

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........

I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........
I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.pedalling paul

pedalling paul wrote: Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org .uk According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired. So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'. Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither......... I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

We all know what you are pp - and it is not printable in a family newspaper!!!

[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org .uk According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired. So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'. Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither......... I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.[/p][/quote]We all know what you are pp - and it is not printable in a family newspaper!!!jay, york

Jim wrote:
&quot;York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years" What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.

So true Jim.
They threw this excuse into the mix earlier this year - think it was to do with the all the problems with the cost of gritting and treating icy roads/ pavements during winter .I made exactly the same comment then. Do they think that none of us have a memory??? Apart from the bad winter you mention, the previous one lasted from December 1962 to March 1963. The one before that was 1947.

Apparently this new tanburn sounds as bad as the rest of this labour lot - they think that if they speak, we will all believe what they say. How wrong they are.......they just dont realise it yet. They need to take their power goggles off!

[quote][p][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
"York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years" What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.[/p][/quote]So true Jim.
They threw this excuse into the mix earlier this year - think it was to do with the all the problems with the cost of gritting and treating icy roads/ pavements during winter .I made exactly the same comment then. Do they think that none of us have a memory??? Apart from the bad winter you mention, the previous one lasted from December 1962 to March 1963. The one before that was 1947.
Apparently this new tanburn sounds as bad as the rest of this labour lot - they think that if they speak, we will all believe what they say. How wrong they are.......they just dont realise it yet. They need to take their power goggles off!jay, york

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.

What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention &quot;potentially dangerous machine ".

You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .

These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.

Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.

... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.

Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt

[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.[/p][/quote]The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.
What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".
You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .
These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.
Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.[/p][/quote]... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.
Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubttrubbleuptmill

Over in Huntington there has been zero evidence of anything other than the usual "bung some cold fill macadam into the hole and stomp on it" road repairs, so none of that money has come this way.

Over in Huntington there has been zero evidence of anything other than the usual "bung some cold fill macadam into the hole and stomp on it" road repairs, so none of that money has come this way.Magicman!

Platform9 wrote:
interesting to see that the whole of Bootham was recently resurfaced along with certain other roads.

Anyone care to guess the TdF route in a few weeks time?

Well they havent touched Bishopthorpe Rd, right at the start of the route, which has areas where the cars are usually parked that missed out when it was last resurfaced!

Wish the TdF would go through the Clifton Moor / Harrogate Rd roundabout.! Think they must be on a cushy little number, don't seem to ever want to finish. How did we ever build full airfields during the war? The war would be over before we'd finished building the field entrance.

[quote][p][bold]greenmonkey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Platform9[/bold] wrote:
interesting to see that the whole of Bootham was recently resurfaced along with certain other roads.
Anyone care to guess the TdF route in a few weeks time?[/p][/quote]Well they havent touched Bishopthorpe Rd, right at the start of the route, which has areas where the cars are usually parked that missed out when it was last resurfaced![/p][/quote]Wish the TdF would go through the Clifton Moor / Harrogate Rd roundabout.! Think they must be on a cushy little number, don't seem to ever want to finish. How did we ever build full airfields during the war? The war would be over before we'd finished building the field entrance.Abdiel

a lot of money for road repairs (and let's face it - would be of benefit to vehicles and cycles (those who use the road anyway) could be raised by taking down all those waste of money 20mph signs and weighing them in for scrap (before they are targeted by others perhaps). I do hope the ladies involved in the incident on Lendal Bridge on Saturday evening are not badly hurt and on their way to recovery. I do wonder if other incidents would have attracted such prominence - or is it simply that the LB is such a carbuncle that this would merit a reason for it's closure. No offence to the accident victims I do sincerely hope that any injuries sustained are relatively minor. I wish that more could be done to ensure pedestrians (especially the blind and other disabled) were exempt from injury. The pothole issue should be reviewed as cyclists using the roads are in danger - either from hitting the pothole or swerving to avoid it and thus causing more danger to themselves via vehicles as a consequence.

a lot of money for road repairs (and let's face it - would be of benefit to vehicles and cycles (those who use the road anyway) could be raised by taking down all those waste of money 20mph signs and weighing them in for scrap (before they are targeted by others perhaps). I do hope the ladies involved in the incident on Lendal Bridge on Saturday evening are not badly hurt and on their way to recovery. I do wonder if other incidents would have attracted such prominence - or is it simply that the LB is such a carbuncle that this would merit a reason for it's closure. No offence to the accident victims I do sincerely hope that any injuries sustained are relatively minor. I wish that more could be done to ensure pedestrians (especially the blind and other disabled) were exempt from injury. The pothole issue should be reviewed as cyclists using the roads are in danger - either from hitting the pothole or swerving to avoid it and thus causing more danger to themselves via vehicles as a consequence.thinkingoutsidethebox

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........

I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.

If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance!

[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........
I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.[/p][/quote]I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.
If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance!eeoodares

Jim wrote:
&quot;York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.

Though extraordinarily wet.

[quote][p][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
"York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.[/p][/quote]Though extraordinarily wet.Alf Garnett

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........

I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.

If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance!

Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.

[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........
I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.[/p][/quote]I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.
If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance![/p][/quote]Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.bloodaxe

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.

What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention &quot;potentially dangerous machine ".

You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .

These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.

Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.

... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.

Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt

Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.

[quote][p][bold]trubbleuptmill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.[/p][/quote]The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.
What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".
You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .
These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.
Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.[/p][/quote]... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.
Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt[/p][/quote]Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.bloodaxe

Jim wrote:
&quot;York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.

Four of the last seven winters have been below average in temperature and of long duration.

[quote][p][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
"York has recently experienced some of the worst winter weather conditions in 30 years"
What? OK, there was a bad winter 3-4 years ago but the last few haven't been, from what I remember last winter was one of the mildest for many years.[/p][/quote]Four of the last seven winters have been below average in temperature and of long duration.bloodaxe

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........

I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.

If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance!

Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.

If you had bothered to read my response, you would see why yours is so totally pointless. Please try to read and comprehend BEFORE you post.

Labour is toast in this City!

[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........
I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.[/p][/quote]I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.
If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance![/p][/quote]Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.[/p][/quote]If you had bothered to read my response, you would see why yours is so totally pointless. Please try to read and comprehend BEFORE you post.
Labour is toast in this City!eeoodares

According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.

So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.

Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.

Next year you and your cronies are toast!

Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........

I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.

I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.

If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance!

Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.

It's not a Labrador party priority either, some of the roads are worse than those I've driven on in Greece, and I never though I'd say that about my own country!

[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote:
Motorists visit www.potholesco.uk. Cyclists visit www.fillthathole.org
.uk
According to the latter website, York is 23rd of 214, in the Local Authority pothole repair league table, with 93% of reported defects repaired.
So what say the anti-Labour moaners now? Check the BBC News story at http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-26862992 which has some useful industry quotes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps people have stopped communicating with your colleagues on the basis that they do not listen or respond. I am sure you can google the FOI data (bet you will not comment on that data) or for people ringing up to report fly tipping etc, the etas must be good because your 'system is down'.
Next year you and your cronies are toast![/p][/quote]Are you implying that I'm a Labour supporter? Or even a Labour Councillor? I I might be either or both, or neither.........
I never cease to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks about whichever Party currently holds office in York. Reasoned debate seems to have no place in their hearts.[/p][/quote]I, like many people in York have never been a particular follower of a political party. I have never felt particularly political before, but your lot have turned me and thousands of others against your party and everything they stand for. You have never seen me contribute about previous councils because whilst they have not always been great, they have not been so fundamentally flawed as your party.
If you are 'never cease (d) to be amazed by the regular contributors who make instinctive, and often offensive remarks...' it must say a lot about your delusion after all the damage your party has done to my City. Your party are disliked on an epic scale! Offended? GOOD! and good riddance![/p][/quote]Had you taken the trouble to read the post you would have seen that PP criticised those who attack whichever party is in power. It's certainly true that the LDs received just as much opprobrium as the current Labour administration. The great thing about politics is that memories are short. That's something the political parties rely upon. Who now remembers the complete mess which the tories left our public services in by 1997 ? This sort of thing could be coming to a city near you. Be careful what you wish for, because road mending won't be a priority for any incoming tory group.[/p][/quote]It's not a Labrador party priority either, some of the roads are worse than those I've driven on in Greece, and I never though I'd say that about my own country!notpedallingpaul

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.

What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention &quot;potentially dangerous machine ".

You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .

These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.

Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.

... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.

Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt

Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.

I don't think I said it was trivial. I fully agree that on main thoroughfares and around schools etc etc, bus stops etc , of course it's not trivial. But ... for goodness sake, two wheels just on the pavement by maybe a tyres width in a 3 house cul-de-sac, more than 1.5 metres of pavement left etc, this just smacks of money making - just sayng ... the comment was about jobsworths making money for the council and making residents very unhappy. Even a note saying "don't do this etc etc" would be good, but no, cameras at the ready, number plates and tax discs duly photographed - interesting to watch them doing the "patrol" ... Surely it's better to educate rather than be heavy handed and just deal out fines -

[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]trubbleuptmill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.[/p][/quote]The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.
What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".
You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .
These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.
Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.[/p][/quote]... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.
Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt[/p][/quote]Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.[/p][/quote]I don't think I said it was trivial. I fully agree that on main thoroughfares and around schools etc etc, bus stops etc , of course it's not trivial. But ... for goodness sake, two wheels just on the pavement by maybe a tyres width in a 3 house cul-de-sac, more than 1.5 metres of pavement left etc, this just smacks of money making - just sayng ... the comment was about jobsworths making money for the council and making residents very unhappy. Even a note saying "don't do this etc etc" would be good, but no, cameras at the ready, number plates and tax discs duly photographed - interesting to watch them doing the "patrol" ... Surely it's better to educate rather than be heavy handed and just deal out fines -trubbleuptmill

I would just like to point out that contrary to one of the earlier comments "the whole of Bootham " has NOT been resurfaced. Indeed, I would estimate that barely 5% has been patched up which still leaves plenty of dodgy areas for the likes of Froome,Contador and the rest of the peloton to try and avoid as us normal folk have to do !

I would just like to point out that contrary to one of the earlier comments "the whole of Bootham " has NOT been resurfaced. Indeed, I would estimate that barely 5% has been patched up which still leaves plenty of dodgy areas for the likes of Froome,Contador and the rest of the peloton to try and avoid as us normal folk have to do !yorkiedave

Potholes can be repaired in various ways. I believe too many are botched and the same holes are created a few years later but by then they are slightly bigger.

One road In N Yorkshire has less potholes than 3 years ago, with no repair work done in that same period. What happened was the potholes joined/merged with each other.

"Fix My Street web-site" regarding bad potholes does work. I used it and work was completed in 10 working days.

On balance York' s road condition is marginally more to do with neglect/poor repairs than our weather. Traffic being stationary means the road surface is less likely to freeze because of exhaust pipe heat!

Potholes can be repaired in various ways. I believe too many are botched and the same holes are created a few years later but by then they are slightly bigger.
One road In N Yorkshire has less potholes than 3 years ago, with no repair work done in that same period. What happened was the potholes joined/merged with each other.
"Fix My Street web-site" regarding bad potholes does work. I used it and work was completed in 10 working days.
On balance York' s road condition is marginally more to do with neglect/poor repairs than our weather. Traffic being stationary means the road surface is less likely to freeze because of exhaust pipe heat!Cheeky face

AnotherPointofView wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.

Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.

Bring it on.

The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.

What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention &quot;potentially dangerous machine ".

You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .

These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.

Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.

... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.

Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt

Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.

I don't think I said it was trivial. I fully agree that on main thoroughfares and around schools etc etc, bus stops etc , of course it's not trivial. But ... for goodness sake, two wheels just on the pavement by maybe a tyres width in a 3 house cul-de-sac, more than 1.5 metres of pavement left etc, this just smacks of money making - just sayng ... the comment was about jobsworths making money for the council and making residents very unhappy. Even a note saying "don't do this etc etc" would be good, but no, cameras at the ready, number plates and tax discs duly photographed - interesting to watch them doing the "patrol" ... Surely it's better to educate rather than be heavy handed and just deal out fines -

No matter what you say parking on any pavement is an offence, so if you do it then expect to pay for it. Try telling a blind person that walks into a car/van/lorry that its only a tyres width simple obay the rules then everybody is happy.

[quote][p][bold]trubbleuptmill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]trubbleuptmill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the money generated by the new spy van will pay for the repairs needed in a very short space of time.[/p][/quote]Yes, I don't have a problem with making those who abuse the privilege of being allowed to run a potentially dangerous machine pay to make life better for those who abide by the rules.
Bring it on.[/p][/quote]The spy van was bought in to monitor the areas outside schools to help keep our children SAFE. If this was the only reason for getting it then I would fully support that. It's just that this van spends precious little of it's time doing that. It spends longer on generating money for this discredited council.
What it is doing has NOTHING to do with safety which appears to be your point when you mention "potentially dangerous machine ".
You can all but guarantee it will be along Tower Street at about two minutes past four, just when loading is no longer allowed or at 09.13 when loading is allowed from 09.15. (No, I haven't had a ticket but I know those who have) .
These PCN's have nothing to do with safety or keeping our roads flowing but more to do with making up revenue lost on the Lendal Bridge fiasco.
Roll on May 2015 when we can rid York of these muppets.[/p][/quote]... and I have seen it recently in Haxby and Wigginton photographing all those car drivers who dare to put a wheel on the pavement.
Watch out for 100's of PCN's in the post. I saw them do it in a 3 house cul-de-sac ... for goodness sake ... nothing to do with safety, but money making for a slight transgression by those not wishing to obstruct the narrow road by parking with all 4 wheels on the road - bet the bin folk would have a problem then ... yes it's a technical breach, and there are clearly places where this would be a problem of obstruction - but, not those vehicles I saw ... even a delivery van was being done, but the driver saw them and came round from the back of the van after shutting the doors after dropping off a washing machine (or somesuch) and drove off. He was perhaps stopped for 5 minutes max ... he'll be pleased no doubt[/p][/quote]Glad you think that parking on the pavement is so trivial. There are times in Haxby when the pavement is completely blocked. By the West End garage and a little further along by a yellow van. Just two examples. Parking on the pavement is selfish and thoughtless; it doesn't even necessarily lessen the impediment to road users.[/p][/quote]I don't think I said it was trivial. I fully agree that on main thoroughfares and around schools etc etc, bus stops etc , of course it's not trivial. But ... for goodness sake, two wheels just on the pavement by maybe a tyres width in a 3 house cul-de-sac, more than 1.5 metres of pavement left etc, this just smacks of money making - just sayng ... the comment was about jobsworths making money for the council and making residents very unhappy. Even a note saying "don't do this etc etc" would be good, but no, cameras at the ready, number plates and tax discs duly photographed - interesting to watch them doing the "patrol" ... Surely it's better to educate rather than be heavy handed and just deal out fines -[/p][/quote]No matter what you say parking on any pavement is an offence, so if you do it then expect to pay for it. Try telling a blind person that walks into a car/van/lorry that its only a tyres width simple obay the rules then everybody is happy.jake777

Although this column started out about Pot Holes - I notice the mention of the Spy Van quite a lot. Wonder what the council will do with this little snippet of information, should be fun! :
http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/national
/11292834.CCTV__spy_
cars__will_be_banned
/

Although this column started out about Pot Holes - I notice the mention of the Spy Van quite a lot. Wonder what the council will do with this little snippet of information, should be fun! :
http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/national
/11292834.CCTV__spy_
cars__will_be_banned
/Kelvar

When I read the head lines on another article.... 'Instant mash spill blocks A64 in both directions'.... I thought perhaps YCC were experimenting with alternative materials for filling in the pot-holes.
How about it ? you never know, it might just work.

When I read the head lines on another article.... 'Instant mash spill blocks A64 in both directions'.... I thought perhaps YCC were experimenting with alternative materials for filling in the pot-holes.
How about it ? you never know, it might just work.quandaryqueen