About those climbing images being a coincidence or not, itís more about the image itself, IMO. This action can easily be transplanted onto Bruce and still be a visual reference. Thematically as well, given heís trying to escape from somewhere. And who knows, perhaps TDKR Bane has climbed the pit at some point and we see him do it?

About those climbing images being a coincidence or not, itís more about the image itself, IMO. This action can easily be transplanted onto Bruce and still be a visual reference. Thematically as well, given heís trying to escape from somewhere. And who knows, perhaps TDKR Bane has climbed the pit at some point and we see him do it?

Bane seems strong enough to be able to climb out of that pit with no prob. Maybe he to build himslef up to be that big to have the strength to eventually make it out.

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Exactly. Remember when people were complaining about Gotham not looking "gothic" and "fantastical" enough? (still happens a bit) I was wondering if they had picked up a Batman comic in the last 30 or so years.
These are some really great comparisons guys.

As far as story goes for TDKR... there's obviously influence from No Man's Land, Knightfall, and The Dark Knight Returns. But I also see a bit of influence in both TDK & TDKR from Dark Victory (which makes sense, seeing that DV is the follow-up to The Long Halloween which was a major influence for BB).

The only reason I say that is because the plot of Dark Victory is "Once a town controlled by organized crime, Gotham City suddenly finds itself being run by lawless freaks. Witnessing his city's dark evolution, the Dark Knight completes his transformation into the city's greatest defender." That could pretty much be a basic summary of the plots for TDK & TDKR.

__________________"You are part of the night, just like me. We're not afraid of the dark--we come alive in it...we're thrilled by it."-Catwoman to Batman

As far as story goes for TDKR... there's obviously influence from No Man's Land, Knightfall, and The Dark Knight Returns. But I also see a bit of influence in both TDK & TDKR from Dark Victory (which makes sense, seeing that DV is the follow-up to The Long Halloween which was a major influence for BB).

The only reason I say that is because the plot of Dark Victory is "Once a town controlled by organized crime, Gotham City suddenly finds itself being run by lawless freaks. Witnessing his city's dark evolution, the Dark Knight completes his transformation into the city's greatest defender." That could pretty much be a basic summary of the plots for TDK & TDKR.

It influenced TDK quite a lot too, in very specific ways.

I'm trying to think of the influence on BB other than Falcone being in it.