<Tanner> we pay like $225 for 1500 minutes, 5 lines, unlimited night/weekend minutes, free roaming, and unlimited sms
<Tanner> and insurance on 3 of the phones
<zzxc> Tanner: insurance on the phones? Just put that money into a phone replacement fund, and you'll save lots of money in the long run.
<Tanner> zzxc: yet they manage to make it seem like a good deal
<zzxc> Tanner: the wireless industry attracts talented salespeople
<Tanner> "If anything happens to your phone, you just pay $50 to get a brand new phone"
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<Tanner> or, $80 for the same phone that may have a scratch or two on it with no insurance or activation fee
<zzxc> Tanner: but you pay a $50 deductible, so the actual insured value is $30.
<zzxc> on average, how many phones do you break per year?
<Tanner> zero.
<zzxc> For $420, you should be breaking 1.2 phones per month

<MindstormsKid> only 300ms more than the for(){} without let (a = a){}
<MindstormsKid> (1660ms for a 1mil-length array)
<zzxc> It shouldn't add overhead if the browser natively supports the behavior. (Of course it's slow on IE, but then again so is everything)
<TMZ> lol

<zzxc> timelyx: You can chat with this person if you want. XMPP to chat-support.mozilla.com and I'll invite you
* timelyx wonders how to xmpp from osx 10.3.9
<zzxc> why are you on 10.3.9?
<timelyx> because that's what my mac came w/
<timelyx> (10.3)
<zzxc> you can't even run mozilla..
<timelyx> i did say safari1 crashed, didn't i?
<timelyx> but that's not fair, i have a 2.0.0.19 update notification in the background :)
<zzxc> not .20?
<timelyx> how could it/
<timelyx> i never dismissed the 2.0.0.19 dialog :)