innewdefensespendingthat the pentagon didn't ask for. $5 trillion tax cut, future of the wealthy. >> reporter: the claim is complicated by the way biden framed the argument. >> how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes? >> obama officials today insisted that was not a gaffe, biden clarified. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported. >> republicans like rubio are off to the races. >> those happen to be the words that the distinguished vice president of the united states mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls

of a sudden has to be onthedefensive, andhe doesn't handle it very well. >> there were several things that hart didn't handle well, but that's another story. >> he was reeling. we came right back in with another punch, which was the red phone. >> the most awesome, powerful responsibility in the world lies in the hand that picks up this phone. >> again, they used emotion to sell the idea that gary hart was style, not substance. >> vote as if the future of the world is at stake. >> decades later -- >> it's 3:00 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep, but there's a phone in the white house and it's ringing. >> hillary clinton's consultants used the same theme to attack barack obama. >> who do you want answering the phone? >> in this case it was barack obama, because he answered the red phone at 3:00 in the morning. said, gary heart answered the red phone at 2:00 in the morning. did they steal it from us? absolutely. >> today's ads are more likely to be direct attacks. >> barack obama, what a disappointment. >> americans say we don't like these attacks, but they do work. in the swing

the issues likethedefensebudget,and that's why it's issues like that and the ones the we don't even know about that make me weary of all of these street line projections that we are making in the future based on what things look like right now. >> do any of you want to address that point? >> that is the point about iran and the likelihood that we would actually enter into some sort of military action regardless of who wins. >> right now it's not clear to me. >> questions from the audience. yes, sir. >> microphone from the left. >> governor romney's that he wants to create 12 million jobs during his term, that's to hundred 50,000 jobs a month. in the past the u.s. has always been an exporter and that is what created jobs. how do you see his promise of creating 12 million jobs in four years? >> unlikely. [laughter] does anyone want to elaborate on that? >> i think we are in a completely different job market. the convention back in 1992 was if you work hard and play by the rules you should expect to be in the american middle class and i said condensation but that's basically what he's been

job losses were coming if congress and the president go through withthedefensecutscalled sequestration. >> the impact will be immediate and significant here in virginia. 136,000 jobs will be lost in virginia as a result of this move. >> and though romney wanted to focus on defense cuts, he couldn't avoid questions on the 47% comment. he was forced to defend himself in a series of local television interviews. >> is there a clarification you would offer to voters about what you meant? >> my campaign is about 100% of americans. my whole effort in running for president is to help those people that are struggling the most. this campaign and frankly my presidency if i become president is about helping people in the middle class have a better chance of making ends meet. >> of course, the president is hammering romney on the 47% remark. he is on the air with the third ad on the comment and it is brutal. it is the second time the president put out an ad narrated by romney. the first was america the beautiful ad. look at the new one. >> 47% of the people will vote for the president

. ronald reagan lost most of that debate. he was onthedefensive. jimmycarter was attacking him. and then he had this positively brilliant close about are you better off? and he did it so well. peter hart did a bunch of focus groups before and after. clearly reagan had a lower threshold. he had to prove to people he was acceptable. >> that's what mitt -- you're describing mitt romney. you're describing mitt romney because voters -- >> voters don't have the kind of negatives. he did not have 51% of people having an unfavorable view. secondly, you could say mitt romney is as good a debater all you want. gipper against mitt romney when it comes to charm, people saying i want to have this guy on television for four years, it's no contest. >> willie, following up on what mike barnicle said, the one thing mitt romney has going for him is who he is running against. there are a lot of republicans that voted for barack obama that are disappointed. there are a lot of independents that voted for obama who are disappointed. there are a lot of conservatives who don't want to vote for them th

. >> thanks for being here. i am part of thechildren'sdefenseclinichere at richmond. we recently read miller v. alabama. what do you feel about the treatment of juveniles in the justice system? to their need to be any changes? >> the way i view my job is actually to decide cases, and not the state lots of views about, here is what i think about penal reform, or here is what i think about children in the justice system. there are a range of legal questions that i might have views about, but in the end, it is really -- that is not the way i conceive my role. i conceive my role as a judge to decide particular cases, and the issues in those cases that come before me. in miller and jackson, speaking for five members of the court, i addressed one of those questions, which was a question about mandatory life without parole sentencing for juveniles. as my vote reflects, i thought mandatory life sentencing for juveniles is inappropriate, and the justice should have discretion to decide whether it is life without parole or some lesser penalty. in signing that case, i am not deciding, and will n

trillion just to give you a sense over ten years that's more than ourentiredefensebudget.and you think that by closing loopholes and deductions for the well to do somehow you will not end up picking up the tab. then governor romney's plan may work for you. but i think math, common sense, and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. look, we've tried this. we've tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. so in some ways we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so that they've got some money in their pockets. and

a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillionindefensespending.>> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are you hearing about all the debate preps today. he o'clock najs that this is an important opportunity in her debate. people have a tendency to focus on the small things, like the color of a candidate's tie or the dramatic one liners, which is his need to get across the big picture message. he says if he does that, he thinks he can be effective over the course of the next three debates and ultimately win this thing. we heard this morning from governor chris christie of new jersey, i want to play you another clip from new jersey this morning. chris christ >> and so they're going start tuning in on wednesday night and when they do, governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america and better opportunity for all of our citizens, and i think that's when you're

's children that will ensure astrongdefensedownthe road. please take this opportunity to turn off your cell phones. thank you. joining us today are four distinguished retired military leaders and representatives from the department of defense who are concerned with childhood obesity posing a real threat to our long-term national security. let me introduce our speakers our general richard miers, u.s. air force retired, served as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff from 2001-2005. admiral james loy, u.s. coast guard retired, a former deputy to u.s. secretary -- secretary, the security breach lieutenant general norma spike and general pinkney. our first speaker will be admiral willloy. we'll take a few questions from the media. and then we will separate one- on-one interviews. thank you. >> good morning to you all. thank you, amy, and thank you for your personal commitment to this cause. if you folks think herding cats is difficult, think of 200 officers. thanks to the leadership of the team, we have made good progress over the last couple of years. two years ago, our initial report en

south carolina. we're not going to saveourdefenseunlesswe go along with the president's wishes to raise taxes on small business. it's not a good choice. i would never support it, but there are enough republicans i think who are so afraid of defense cuts that they would probably give in. let me go to ari. thanks for joining us, ari. my sense is as well as andrew has laid this out, how obama is this visionary and can think three or four years ahead, he must have also counted on an economic recovery kicking in with a lot more steam than we've had which jeopardizes getting to that second term. we have an 8%-plus unemployment rate that looks like it's going to be facing us in the face the day people vote. >> i think that's right. they had hoped the economy would rebound more. they inherited a 750 million per month loss rate and have improved a lot from that as andrew documents in the piece, but they have a longer ways to go. i think the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax ref

about serious matters. massive cuts andourdefensearelooming. the massive tax hike in history is imminent. mr. president, the solutions to those problems won't be reached by sitting on the couch of the "the view," nor found in jay-z's nightclub, nor in george clooney house. the author of a brand-new "new york times" bestseller is here. bob woodward. you said this is a moment of maximum peril. you described a president not engaged in terms of relationships to fix the problems he's failed. >> he worked on it, but didn't carry it over the finish line. you have to look at these things not for effort, but for results. and one thing i -- you make the case against him very strong there. one thing i would agree with you on is that it's beyond unsustainable. we have got to -- i mean, people are talking about the fiscal cliff coming. new tax increases, spending cuts and so forth. but the real problem is going to be in february when of necessity, whoever's president, is going to have to go to the congress and say, we need another trillion dollars, maybe $2 trillion in borrowing authority

that they believe they can put the obama campaign back onthedefensive. iagree with joe. it's surprising that they are putting this forward and it has to be because in doing so they are now forcing the media to ask those questions. you know, to fact check president obama, to write these stories about how romney's going to call him a liar, which then sort of deluge into something that takes over. right now romney doesn't have any card to play. the last thing they can do is make americans believe that when barack obama talks about the successes of the last four years, that he is simply lying. >> well, don't say that he has any more cards because there may be more tapes on obama at the rate he's going. joe madison, alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >>> ahead, he's been in hiding from the romney campaign but when they told george w. bush to go away, they probably didn't mean go toll the cayman islands for an investment conference. >>> and hundreds and thousands voting today in iowa. it's a big day for this election. stay with us. >> this is the movement of our

and the $1 trillion cutstodefenseanddomestic programs. a new report out today says this could be a plan developing to help lawmakers move forward on it all. "new york times" reports that colorado democratic senator bennett and tennessee republican senator alexander are representing their parties and would in part set a deficit reduction target of $4 trillion over 10 years. congressional committee would do the work taking six to 12 months figuring out how to achieve that with tax increases and cuts to federal programs. if that fails, part two would then be an automatic deficit reduction structure in effect, likely similar to simpson-bowles. finally, lawmakers are likely under this framework, to vote to put off the tax increases and the automatic spending cuts physical some sometime in 2013. barring some action, here are examples of what would happen in 2013. if your income is $40,000 to $60,000, your taxes go up $2,000 next year. if you are in the top 20 percent with an income over $108,000 your tax bill goes up by $14,000. if you are in the top 1 percent and make over $506,000 your taxe

of corruption in any area means there is an effect on efficiency. for this reason the ministryofdefenseatthe ministry of interior have built their own counter corruption programs which have examined the way they do business and the money flows, the material flows within the system. as a result of their close examination of how they do business internally throughout the chain of command, i can tell you in number of people have been arrested and the message is out there within the ministry of interior and the m.o.d. that corruption will not be tolerated. this requires intensive efforts to get to grips with. the security ministries are in the lead across the government in spearheading the counter corruption efforts. there was a second part to your question. >> to elaborate in the manner in which york implementing the guardian angel program. if you can give some examples of that, the guardian angel program. >> it is the way that people go about their business. keeping an eye on their mates all taking exercise while playing sports or relaxing within -- where has that task to stay on one si

, just to get a sense of her 10 years, that is more than ourentiredefensebudget.anything by closing loopholes and deductions for the well-to-do, somehow you will not end up picking up the tab, then governor romney's plan may work for you. but i think math, common sense in our history shows us that is not a recipe for job growth. look, we tried this. we've tried both approaches. the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. we ended up moving from surplus to deficit and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, what from deficit to surplus and businesses did very well. so in some ways they've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. and i believe the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks so that they've got the money in their pocket. most of us who have done extraordinarily w

ofdefensecutsthat they would probably give in. let me go to ari. thanks for joining us, ari. my sense is as well andrew has laid this out, how obama i this visionary and can think the orr s d, must have also counted on an economic recovery kicking in with a lot more steam than we've had which jeopardizes getting to that second term. we havan 8%-plus unemployment rate that looks like it's going to bfacing us in the face the day peop vote. >> i think that's right. ey h hophenoou rebound more. they inherited a 750 million per month loss rate and have improved a lot from that as andrew documents in the piece, but they have a longer ways to go. i ink the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax reform a priority will you also raised taxes, who signed the deral law that ruire orpleny iat the e.r. ronald reagan worked across the aisle on a lot of things and then there's the ronald reagan we hear about only in the gop primary debates, a conserve ty ideologue at every turn. if you talk abo

way -- what i would suggest is don't goondefense. everybodyin politics has these change positions. so you go after the president for some of those really dramatic flip-flops that he's had just like everybody else. >> rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york, he's in denver helping the romney campaign get ready for a huge night, debate night in america. mr. mayor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. take care. >> thank you. >>> and just ahead here in "the situation room," we're going to hear from the other side, stephanie cutter, the deputy cap pain manager for barack obama, she's going to join us live from denver as well. that's coming up later. our new poll shows voters have very definite ideas about who they expect will win tonight. gloria borger is standing by. she's got the numbers. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my wa

what holding is. >> pass interference onthedefensenumber22. why don't they just let the man catch the ball? am i right? >> okay. i do not yet have a ruling on the field but i do have this. all right. what do you think? >> good morning. it's 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast as you take a live look at new york city. back with us on set in new york, we've got steve ratner, andrea mitchell. we have a lot to talk about. let's start quickly with the refs. we have some breaking news and i got to tell you, little kate is excited. 9 years old. she plays in the soccer league. and the parents have had to ref over the past couple weeks because those guys have gone to play nfl. it's taken care of now. >> that's great news. >> it happened late last night. the nfl and referees union announced they have reached a tentative agreement that will end the lockout and bring the original, the regular officiating crews starting tonight. the deal good through the 2019 season features increase in average salary for officials. they'll go up to 205,000 a year by 2019. all kinds of thi

defensekeepsit close and then he finds a way to work his magic near the end. you have to give that a try. that's not why they brought him in. i think they're going to stick with sanchez stubbornly longer than they should. >> this is why lou holtz is so right, when you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks. the thing is the quarterback's going to have a bad game. you've got to stick with that quarterback, ride the quarterback through the season. and then trade him at the end of the season. you know, sanchez, i don't know if it's good or bad, but every time he threw a pass, he was looking over at tebow. and it distracts you. >> i don't think that's what he was looking at. >> they've got 12 more games. if they ride him out through 12 more games, they could be in trouble. >> they could be in a position to get geno smith or matt barkley. >> they just trade him. >> so let's talk about the saints/packers. packers get jobbed on "monday night football," almost get jobbed again yesterday at home against the saints. >> it was going to be a riot. darren sproles fumbled the ball. the ball w

to militaryanddefensespendingor the bush tax cuts. >> are you talking about the bush tax cuts on all income levels? >> there is no qualification in that statement. what i said, and i still stand by, there are three things that doubled on national debt -- the bush tax cuts, -- >> the question is, do you want to expire them in total? there was no qualification. >> i am getting there. i think, and i still say, that we have to look at every single one of them and determine if we can use some of that money to pay down our national debt. we can lie to the american people or tell the truth. the truth is that those tax cuts, if we let them expire, will increase our national debt by almost one-half. >> what is your position, mr. cruz? >> i would not allow the bush tax cuts to expire. i'm curious. i will commend mr. sadler. he is running a campaign with a great deal of courage because he is running and i'm -- unapologetically liberal campaign and is running in support of raising taxes, a host of liberal views. i commend him for his candor in that. i do not think those are the values of most te

was the undersecretaryofdefenseforpolicy at the pentagon. she was in the situation room with the president during the bin laden mission. now, michele i want to ask you this, because, the president of iran, mr. ahmadinejad, speaks today. but your former boss spoke yesterday. some people still slamming him for not taking a hard enough line on iran. listen to what "the wall street journal" said. they said, in his u.n. speech tuesday, president obama took a tougher than usual election-season line against iran. the cold reality is, that after nearly four years of failed diplomacy and half hearted sanctions that he opposed until congress forced his hand, neither iran nor israel believe him. essentially saying actions speak louder than words. your reaction? >> i think that actions do speak louder than words. and if you look at the record of the president, he has led the international community in posing the most crippling sanctions ever imposed on any country. he has said that all options are on the table. i can tell you from my time in the pentagon that option is very real. it is important that we give

to spend more moneyondefense, andyou're going to cut the deficit all at the same time, and your answer is, i don't really have time. >> right,. [ laughter ] >> my 9-year-old niece in the fourth grade, she can't tell her teacher, you know, i don't have time to show you the math, trust me, this is the answer. it's not going to work. we want to hear from you 1-866-55-press. we're going to talk a little bit about paul ryan. we're going to talk a little bit about the debates answered we're going to hear a little bit more from mr. ryan as he talks about his -- as you talks about how he can't show us the math and how he has plans, failed plans for medicare cutting taxes and for america, right after this. >> on your radio and on current t.v., this is the bill press show. ♪ unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. >> good morning i'm jamal

and out every possession. the president is playingpreeventdefensebutpeople like charles krauthammer are frustrated because they don't see a reaction to being behind in some sort of change. be angry. be a fighter. go big. whatever it is. they have to do something different i think in the expectation of the conservative press or people are going to start turning on them. >> yeah. joe, the debates, is that one area where he actually might do well? >> i think he'll do well in the debates. he is a very good debater. the president's own people will say, and they're not spinning, that the president's not that great in debates. he lost the majority of the debates to hillary clinton back in 2008. he is not good at boiling things down to sound bites and delivering a punch line. but sam stein, there is, though, a real concern among conservatives. you know, two weeks ago when i started, the huffington post picked up my comments. >> as always. >> early on. at that point i said oh, my god it's getting late. >> yeah. >> it's getting late. then "the wall street journal", peggy noonan and others fol

darn good economy when we were playing bill clinton's tax rates and then itcutsdefenseswehaven't done in 30 years and entitlement programs. >> there's a few on the left that admit that going back to the clinton tax rates is not just for people who are 250, it's for everyone. >> i agree with that. >> $200 billion in the middle class from the bush tax cuts and $100 billion from the payroll tax cut -- >> it would do a lot. >> we should take our medicine, we should do it. >> that's where i think you're right. we have to -- any politician who says democrat or republican, we're going to get out of this without suffering some pain -- >> that's what we're hearing from paul krugman who says any democrat that goes along with the simpson/bowles. >> only for one reason, you shouldn't raise the -- you shouldn't raise the eligibility for medicare to 67. that makes no sense at all. but otherwise -- >> why doesn't it? >> because medicare is the only universal health care plan that we have in this country. and to raise it at the time when people are retiring is insane. and furthermore, the savi

at the budget you get down to militaryanddefensespendingor the bush tax cuts. >> are you talking about the bush tax cuts on all income levels? >> there is no qualification in that statement. what i said, and i still stand by, there are three things that doubled on national debt -- the bush tax cuts, -- >> the question is, do you want to expire them in total? there was no qualification. >> i am getting there. i think, and i still say, that we have to look at every single one of them and determine if we can use some of that money to pay down our national debt. we can lie to the american people or tell the truth. the truth is that those tax cuts, if we let them expire, will increase our national debt by almost one-half. >> what is your position, mr. cruz? >> i would not allow the bush tax cuts to expire. i'm curious. i will commend mr. sadler. he is running a campaign with a great deal of courage because he is running an unapologetically liberal campaign and is running in support of raising taxes, a host of liberal views. i commend him for his candor in that. i do not think those are the

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