So Iv decided I just dont have the money right now to figure out whats wrong with the midget, and I KNOW my older bitch does peachy on a fish kibble, so Im going to put them both on a high quality fish based food, with NO chicken and NO chicken fat (I know Kitty cant handle chicken in cooked form oddly, but is fine in raw form)

Im looking at Acana Pacifica and have priced it online and the best I can find is $67, free shipping, for a 29 lb bag
Money is extremely limited so this has made me gulp and stare very hard my wallet.
Does anyone have any ideas of kibbles that are roughly the same high quality, but maybe... a little cheaper?

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If you find it locally, it'll probably be in a feed store or *maybe* a small pet specialty store. Smaller, non-chain feed stores may be able to special order it for you.

your guys are bigger dogs, yes? how many cups per day, total, are you draining from the bag? if $50 lasts you approx 1 month, Im trying to gauge how long it would last me. one 45-pounder who is plump and needs to stop gaining weight on air *glares*, and a 25-pounder

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When I had to switch Chloe off of TOTW due to finances (and the fact that she needed to loose weight, so I was trying to find a low calorie, lower fat food), I switched to 4Health Salmon and Potato.

She did really well on it, and it is $36.99 for a 35lb bag. It also stopped her from gaining weight (and start loosing!) which was also my goal.

Thanks for the suggestion, Iv never heard of 4health

Not really groovin on Salmon, ocean fish meal (a source of fish oil), potatoes, peas, cracked pearled barley being in the first 5 ingredients I already feel wretched switching them off raw, I feel like Im doing them a disservice putting them on kibble. Dont say its silly, because I already know it is, but it doesnt stop me from feeling guilty about the whole thing. Im trying to stay as to quality as i possibly can, without being Orijen because $85

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Logan is about 68 pounds, and Gavroche is about 52 pounds. I feed a TOTAL of 5 cups per day between the two dogs, give or take a little depending on if they feel chubby or thin when I squish them lol. So...105-140 cups? Probably closer to the 105-115 cup range for a 30 pound bag.

Also, how many cups does vary by kibble size. Usually it's an average size kibble, but recently they had a batch that they accidentally made in teeeeny tiny small-breed-puppy kibbles. I loved that kibble size, I wish it was always that size. There are less cups in a bag when kibble is that small, BUT you feed less (so...maybe 3/4 cups twice a day for Gavroche instead of a cup twice a day) because more kibble fits into a smaller space.

Logan is about 68 pounds, and Gavroche is about 52 pounds. I feed a TOTAL of 5 cups per day between the two dogs, give or take a little depending on if they feel chubby or thin when I squish them lol. So...105-140 cups? Probably closer to the 105-115 cup range for a 30 pound bag.

Also, how many cups does vary by kibble size. Usually it's an average size kibble, but recently they had a batch that they accidentally made in teeeeny tiny small-breed-puppy kibbles. I loved that kibble size, I wish it was always that size. There are less cups in a bag when kibble is that small, BUT you feed less (so...maybe 3/4 cups twice a day for Gavroche instead of a cup twice a day) because more kibble fits into a smaller space.

gotcha. Thanks! Seems I would be feeding about 4c a day total-- according to the directions on the bag that is, which if you are going at 5c a day, you must not be following lol according to IT, you should be feeding 6-7c a day O_O

I went to google shopping and punched in victor and found an ebay listing for that same online retailer, with CHEAPER pricing. on the site it was $50 per bag, with 1 bad being $20 shipping, and 2 bags being $30 shipping total, so $130 for 60 lbs of food, whereas on the ebay ad its $55 free shipping, so 110 for 60 lbs. Odd that theres a disrepency. I think I may go ahead and order Victor, as the ingredient list looks okay and Iv heard good stuff about it

Does anyone know what factories manufacture it? Diamond?

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I just wanted to mention, its not odd that she can't handle cooked chicken but can handle it raw. Its not uncommon. (Though, my pets are backwards. LOL)

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gotcha. Thanks! Seems I would be feeding about 4c a day total-- according to the directions on the bag that is, which if you are going at 5c a day, you must not be following lol according to IT, you should be feeding 6-7c a day O_O

I rarely follow the bags. I follow what my dogs feel like and their weight. Usually it's SIGNIFICANTLY less than what the bag says. If your dog is overweight, the amount you need to feed will probably be a lot less than what the bag says (remember to feed for optimal weight, not current weight).