There is a section of American Society that are being harassed on a daily basis. A part of the very fabric of the US and its constitution. They are the men and indeed women of America who have to deal with the types of Harassment, hatred, dare I say a hatred of the American way. This harassment of these people is a plight that will not be taken up by a media that is too busy trying to bring actual news of actual people who are actually being harassed.

I want to bring the plight of those whose voices are not heard, they don't get the media attention they crave, nor are their voices taken seriously. Why aren't these people front and centre is the media? That's simple.

They are idiots. Macho men and women who want to have the right to carry their firearms in public. That's right, this 'Harassed' part of society, backed by the idiocy of the NRA, the Right, Constitutional Fundamentalists and lesser media outlets are the hidden Minority, I say hidden but when some people see these AR-15 carrying 'Patriots' they don't think ''Oh look at that little man and his his gun, what a Patriot, I feel so much safer now''.

Lock and Load

I mean seriously, it isn't as if those extremes of open carry can come across as a 'little' dimwitted. Like these Big Men below, look out for the Gentleman is walks in around 3:30 into the video, not only has he got his trusty Weapon strapped to his shoulder but it is what is in his right that should make any proponent of the second amendment throw up in their mouth.

As it stands the diagram below show the states that have reverted to a Wild West attitude towards responsible Gun Ownership.

Now as I said it isn't just the Ammosexual Men that are being discriminated against, Ammosexuality is a cross gender affliction. Like these young women below. Notice how the Policeman in this Video, I don't know how to put it other than 'Doing his Job' harasses these armed women in a Restaurant.

I'm sure the words of one Gun Advocate, Wayne Lapierre are at the front of your mind, ''The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun'' blah blah blah.. well Lapierre in his rush to cover up the mess left at Sandy Hook was a little lacking on how one defines between a bad guy with a gun and a good guy with a Gun.

I'm sure the country is coming down with good guys with guns, I don't doubt for a second that there are those who are simply trying to protect their families whether that be in the home or in the Frozen section at the store or in the queue for the waterslide at the local pool you just never know where that bad guy with the Gun is.

He must think 'The Walking Dead' is a Documentary

Therein is the huge problem that gun advocates will not account for, the problem the NRA cannot account for, even those politicians in the pockets of the Open carry drive to have every American armed and ultimately Extremely dangerous.

HOUSTON — Two students were killed in separate shootings Friday on college campuses in Texas and Arizona, rattling the nerves of students, teachers and parents eight days after a rampage left 10 people dead at Umpqua Community College in Oregon.

Unlike the attack in Oregon and other mass shootings at colleges and schools in recent years, the two on Friday were not so-called active-shooter episodes, but instead appeared to stem from ordinary disputes and altercations that quickly turned violent.

Here in Houston, a shooting outside a student housing complex at Texas Southern University shortly before noon put the campus on lockdown and led administrators to cancel classes for the day. The motive was unknown, but one student was killed and another man wounded. Their names were not released.

When you start down the road of arming everyone, the lines between the good guy and the bad guy become very blurred. Many of you will argue that School Shooters are different as the Bad Guy is clearly defined. There are multiple stories where legally held firearms are being used to settle disputes, From arguments over fences to strip bars, where there is a weapon there's a Tool dumb enough to think using it is a great way to end that dispute.

The idea that having lots of 'Good' guys with guns in any confined space is quite frankly ridiculous. For a start you Open carry people need to understand when you scare the crap out of those who have no need to arm themselves before going to church or as was the case in the Alaska Link provided, a Strip Bar. These are incidents that are not going to lessen with more slack Gun laws and a more armed populus.

How many more disputes will be ending in a Gunfight?

What about larger disputes, you all remember the Bikers in Texas right?

Nine people were killed and several wounded Sunday after a shootout between rival biker groups in Waco, Texas, with more gangs threatening to descend on the town after the violence, local media reported.

Fighting broke out in a restaurant parking lot between three rival groups, with some members using clubs and knives before pulling guns, according to Sergeant W. Patrick Swanton, speaking to CBS affiliate KWTX.

Local news outlets reported that as many as 18 people were wounded, mostly from gunshot and stab wounds, and Swanton told reports that more than 100 weapons were collected from the scene.

Now many of you will say ''Ah, but many of the weapons were illegal'' and no doubt many were illegal. But when you have lots of people with lots of Guns in one place at the same time in a situation where human reactions can be carried out without thinking, a Fight, dispute, argument, disagreement etc. You run the very risk that the human survival mode that instinct tends to be one of Protection first.

The ultimate payoff in all this is very simple. An openly armed society won't cure the ill of Gun Violence. This won't end Weapons getting into the hands of those who should not have them for a variety of reasons.

You are just adding the risk of more deadly Mass Shootouts to go with the already Deadly Mass Shootings that are an almost daily occurrence.

Kevin, we can sight case after case for the need to have gun control until we are blue in the face and it just brings a torrent of ridicule. I love the fact that you put the way they feel as harassment. As always you say it well and I had to chuckle at that that description.

This morning I posted my feelings about Gun control and President Obama putting through an Executive Order on gun control. I already got lambasted for it with paragraphs of "how could I dare write what I felt" about this subject. It's crazy time out there among gun owners.

Do you think it had something to do with my comment when I said that taking away their guns was similar to taking away a child's teddy bear?

I would give up my teddy bear but not my gun. I am ok with reasonable gun laws. I would not want to become a criminal b/c I am a law abiding citizen who had background checks in NC to get and possess my guns. Do not make me a criminal b/c I bought assault weapons legally, which BTW are not cheap.

I am quite educated and for reasonable gun control. I am not foaming at the mouth either. I just have a different opinion. Which in America I have that freedom as do you and Alphie. I responded to her teddy bear comment but I saw several reference it recently.

Sorry ten is the limit!! In Arizona it is getting epidemic with the gun on the hip, men and women, I often ask, politely for sure, why and who are you afraid of? Answer usually is 'Obama', not rattlesnakes or Gila Monsters, nope it's the President who they refer to nearly unanimously. When I point out that this President has never done anything to 'take' their precious guns they instantly refute that with all the bunk put out by the NRA and Fox.

Men who stalk and rape, that is who I fear. That is why I carry. Reasonable gun laws...background checks before you can purchase I am ok with. Prez does not scare me. So you can count me out on your near unanimous theory.

"nearly" understand the difference? We ride with lots of people out in the desert and in the mountains, so explain why the women who carry 'nearly' all respond the way I reported, no rapists in our groups, yet they still carry just to carry, why??

I know someone that was raped over 25 years ago on the side of the road while her car was disabled. A guy stops to "help" and winds up dragging her into the overbrush off to the side and raped her. She now refuses to leave the house without being well armed. She's become quite adept with her firearms, and is quite accurate with them...probably better than me with her weapons.

When I found out, I offered sympathy and protection. She said she didn't need that...that she needed me to make sure she would never be a hapless victim again. Her experience is why all women should be armed.

I wasn't stalked but I was raped by a guy I thought was a good friend. A gun would have been useless because he was my friend. When a rape occurs, it's not always by a dangerous stranger who jumps out at you on a dark street.

I had same issue but not a friend.... I wish I had a gun! One of us would have died and that works for me. I was stalked..bought a gun when a detective took me to get one and learn to shoot it. I quit hiding. Personal choice I guess. A friend would not hurt or rape you. Rape is about power not sex. I was 5 2 and 103 lbs....not able to fight. I prefer a gun. Again its a choice but either way I am sorry that happened to you.

Katiebugz, you were a very brave woman to take back your life from a stalker. I consider that my worst nightmare. Personal choice but I admire what you did.

I most likely wouldn't have carried a gun because he was a friend and I trusted him. My big mistake. Rationally now I know it's power not sex but at the time I kept thinking that it was my fault which you and I now know wasn't the case.

Would you at least admit that walking into a restaurant with an assault weapon is a problem? How about any place serving alcohol?

Nothing against you, but the minute someone walks into a restaurant I'm at with and assault rifle, is the moment I walk out and call for help because my rights are being infringed upon. I have the right to feel safe when I go out to eat. An assault rifle is a violent weapon. A handgun I don't see as a huge problem.

While I'm not one that carries a rifle to places, I do understand why it's done...because it's legal. The assault rifle is attacked the most by the government anti-gun folks. They view it as the most evil, yet it's the least used in shootings. It's hated because of it's appearance, and laws have been written to ban the stock and magazine capacity...just to appease a few of the loudest. The carrying of scary looking assault rifles is to the pro gun crowd what the rainbow flag is to the pro gay group. It's a symbol, a way of showing their pride and of furthering their agenda...and shoving it in your face.

Take your argument, and replace guns with gays and gay marriage...its basically the same tactics used by both sides of the argument.

Common sense dictates that you don't do that which offends...out of basic manners. There is a small amount that prefer to be in your face when it comes to firearms. Most firearm owners would rather take the gentleman's approach of keeping it concealed until needed, to keep problems at a minimum. However, with the attacks on firearms and firearm owners, it's rattled some of the most "vocal" of the group...which is another reason why you may see one in public.

As for me and mine, you won't see a weapon unless it's in use to defend me or those around me. I personally prefer to take the gentleman's approach.

fair point...i feel the same it is not a benefit rubbing people's nose in it...i agree handguns no problem but some of those guys were also carrying high calibre hunting rifle's with very nice and expensive scopes...surely doing that is not being responsible which is the real issue....not 20 new laws but a need for common sence....they walked into a restaurant with kids and they could have been a squad in iraq the way they were armed....just stupid and deffinately not responsible..they could have even carryed them in a gun case or even a canvas rifle bag with the long zip.do you know what i mean lol....it's a very emotional discussion....i really can't take a side because i sort of agree with you both...toughest conversation i have ever been in...it's so hard to get the balance right.. :((((

Yup and I posted that was stupid several times. The constitution are for the rights of all as well a protection of all. In today's society its just crazy to not expect to be checked if you walk in a public place looking like wild west on steroids. They did it to draw attention and film it for multi media....plain stupid. Carrying a side arm not so much. esp if a woman. If you have 1 or 2 drinks and not drunk ....fine....if drunk no because your thinking is impaired.

I also live in Arizona and unlike in New York where you could tell a crazy driver he's an idiot, here you risk your life. Nobody's in danger they just don't like you telling them they don't know how how to drive! These people HATE our President and if you like him, you'd better whisper that comment to another person who feels the same way.

gypsy46 you're very brave but you're also lucky you didn't get shot just for asking that question! I don't have that bravery.

First off, it's not a near daily occurrence, as you state. Second, you sure do make a large number of generally false statements in your post.

There is one thing that every mass shooting has in common over the last 20 years...and it's not guns. It's psychiatric drugs. Mind altering prescription drugs that hit the market before enough is known about them and how people react with them in their system. Yet, nobody in DC or the WH is screaming about more regulations on those drugs.

The anti-gun progressive liberals would rather blame the tool and ignore the cause. That causes legislation to be written with emotion, instead of actual facts and logic. And that, my friends, is bad legislation, no matter how you look at it.

I've worked with mentally ill people who suffered from Deep Depression to Bi-Polar and everyone of them, including me, take "drugs" every day to survive. Your kind of people just don't get it, the ones who mass murder people are the ones NOT taking "drugs"!

Drugs are Meth, Heroin, Cocaine, Ecstasy and every other mind altering drug that's NOT prescribed by a Doctor!

We're the sane ones and they're the crazies! Therefore, don't blame us, it's the GUNS so your theory is shot to sh#t. Also keep your opinions about our "drugs" to yourself because you show how you are so very uneducated about our problems.

There have been 45 or 46 mass shootings so far in 2015 alone...at least 4 per month - roughly one each week since January.

And that number is probably higher since there has been deliberately set up confusion with regards to a stable definition likely reducing the count. We also have federal legislation in place which, literally, does not allow the CDC and related health resource agencies to assess and study gun violence related numbers towards better primary prevention and safety resources.

And the frequency of mass shootings doesn't even come close to the tens of thousands of Americans killed every year; of the at least 38 or so killed every single day by gun violence. This means that every day in America there is a 'mass killing' even if all don't always die at the same place and at the same time.

And the one thing in common most certainly is not 'mind altering prescription drugs.' You really should do an information check even before posting political rants.

But, tell you want, even if every single mass shooting were by persons being medicated under psychiatric care - this is not even close to accurate, of course - but even if it was; don't you think it would further justify better regulations and purchasing requirements for weapon ownership? You and your cohort say one thing then...each and every time...parrot the absolutely wrong conclusion.

And so far as better mental health care; I support that, too.

You should check in with your favorite GOP Congressperson to see if he or she supports expanded healthcare coverage and payment for competent mental health services. Give it a try and see what kind of response you wind up getting. But realize that they may be busy setting up the zillionth House vote to defund ACA/'Obamacare' which actually has offered some increased mental health coverage.

Very well said, Dr. Lou. The Republicans have destroyed any kind of mental health care we had. Ronald Reagan, when he became Governor of California...one of his first acts was closing the state mental hospitals to "save money." He failed to mention that Nancy owned huge holding in private care facilities at the time and figured they would reap huge rewards. Instead, those mentally ill people, without resources for help, ended up filling prison cells....and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what sort of a prison system California has today. And so many of those incarcerated are merely victimized once again....first by the state....and secondly by the other inmates.

Wow ease up there tiger. Are you saying that there aren't people shot on a daily basis in the US? Hmm? You serious?

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There is one thing that every mass shooting has in common over the last 20 years...and it's not guns. It's psychiatric drugs. Mind altering prescription drugs that hit the market before enough is known about them and how people react with them in their system. Yet, nobody in DC or the WH is screaming about more regulations on those drugs.

Tell me, how many Autopsy reports from Sandy Hook or the killings before of after read......

You are incorrect...the use of 'mind altering drugs' is not a common theme to every - or even a majority of - mass shootings. And as I wrote above, call your favorite GOP Rep and encourage them to provide more national coverage to Americans for mental health services. Do you support more federal coverage for individual mental health services? There are also a great many Americans taking psychiatric medications; a status which should NOT become yet another point of misinformed propaganda and scapegoating as a distraction to true political accountability and courage to do that which really needs to happen.

Surprise from this Democrat I'm not outraged I'm more sad that you found this sign as a way to express yourself. I don't hate the truth, I hold it in high regard and when people disagree with me, it's their right.

The sign is wrong in that if we women had as many abortions as gun deaths, babies would cease to exist so these numbers are therefore very wrong!. Just basing this on the math.

Ahh, I see, and if all fails? and while 'she' is doing all these methods, what are you, the man, doing? You throw out labels about liberals 'killing babies because they don't fight back' as if it were true, it is not. Women of all persuasions have and will continue to use their right to choose, and every one is a decision that is not taken lightly, so the next time some gun nut chooses to go into a school just because he can and shoot innocent people don' try to equate violent death by bullet to the considered choice by possibly your sister.

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