Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

untaken_name:Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

untaken_name:Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

NO!

Govt = always good

Individual = always bad

The fact that we have become accepting of a "free speech zone" is alarming.

baka-san:untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

baka-san:untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

Since the world situation is making us all think about how governments, religions and business effect us, this simplified explanation might help us understand better.

THE "TWO-COW THEORY" OF WHAT MAKES...

A CHRISTIAN:

You have two cows. You keep one and give one to your neighbor.

A SOCIALIST:

You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.

A REPUBLICAN:

You have two cows. Your neighbor can get his own.

A DEMOCRAT:

You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous.

A COMMUNIST:

You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk.

A FASCIST:

You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.

DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE:

You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE:

You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE:

You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then pours the milk down the drain.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when the cow drops dead.

A FRENCH CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.

A GERMAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You reengineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows.You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A MEXICAN CORPORATION:

You think you have two cows, but you don't know what a cow looks like. You take a nap.

A SWISS CORPORATION:

You have 5000 cows, none of which belongs to you. You charge for storing them for others.

A BRAZILIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You enter into a partnership with an American corporation. Soon you have 1000 cows and the American corporation declares bankruptcy.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You worship them.

THE TALIBAN

You have two cows. You turn them loose in the Afghan "countryside" and they both die. You blame the godless American infidels.

untaken_name:Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

jaybeezey:untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

NO!

Govt = always good

Individual = always bad

The fact that we have become accepting of a "free speech zone" is alarming.

This. Since when are we only allowed free speech in specially government-approved areas??

untaken_name:Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

I was under the impression that the yellow highlighted area was the "free speech" zone

gfid:untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

1. The ranchers is an idiot. He seems to believe that the federal government has no right to federal land, and he's taking a stand on that principle.

2. The feds do seem relatively heavy handed in their response, in particular the whole "free speech zone" BS. That said, he has been refusing to pay for over 20 years and is not so subtly threatening to resist the feds w/ force.

untaken_name:Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

untaken_name:gfid: untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

Yes, government snipers have never shot anyone in cold blood over something like this. Completely farcical. Ruby Ridge never happened. There's no place like home. Keep repeating your mantras if they make you feel better.

cameroncrazy1984:untaken_name: gfid: untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

untaken_name:I must have missed the part where I claimed this particular article said that. This is not brand new, you know. I said that it happened, because to the best of my knowledge and belief, it did.

Okay, you're right. You just said it was a "mere fact". Do you actually have any knowledge of this beyond the articles linked here?

I HATE BLM, I could not hate anyone more than BLM, except the Schools, colleges and Universities that are shoving their earth worshiping religion off on our kids as a science. My only comfort is that the prophecy states the Lord is going to come and kill them all and throw them into a dark abyss where they will be forgotten along with their gods forever.

"My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877. All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and water. I have been here longer. My rights are before the BLM even existed," Bundy said.

The Muthaship:baka-san: untaken_name: Regardless of your feelings about this man and his claim to ancestral lands, the mere fact that snipers are aiming at people for taking pictures outside of designated "free speech zones" should chill you to the core.

Umm, yeah, about that...

You find it unlikely that they have snipers deployed?

wonder who they will shoot first

his wife?his dog?

any bets?

(oh just curious) has he been paying land taxes to the county/state? or do they not exist in that state