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Channel 5.2 will lose NBC_US soon, but no clue what it will replace it with, if anything. Also, channel 39 KJDN-LP is new, currently simulcasting MyFamilyTV on 39.1 and 39.2 - but 39.1 is 720p capable, and does some local college and high school sports in 720p, and has ads on 39.3. Owner is seeking a network for 39.1, and possibly 39.3.

Note that I don't get channel 12.1 Daystar with my antenna pointed where it is (currently a compromise aiming that allows me to get all the other channels on one antenna). However, being unable to watch Daystar 12.1 is a "NOT a bad thing", lol.

Channel 4.30 simulcasts CW30 for those areas of the state that don't have a translator for CW 30. Note that while both 8.3 channels are Telemundo, and 8.3 and 30.1/4.30 are both CW, they show different programming. (8.3 Idaho is CW Plus)

This is what I get with my outdoor antennas (Winegard HD9032 for UHF Chicago, Winegard HD-1080 for WYIN on RF 17, & Antennacraft CS600 for WOCK-CD & WBBM-TV Chicago) : (spacing shows up when I type, but when it's posted, it doesn't format to the same spacing. So the virtual channel is to the left, & the RF channel is next to it in bold)

VC RF
02.1 12 WBBM-TV (CBS) (1080i)

05.1 29 WMAQ-TV (NBC) (1080i)
05.2 Nonstop
05.3 Universal Sports (until the end of the month, then not sure if the subchannel will simply disappear, or something else will take its place)

I personally don't care that I don't get WCHU-LD on RF 33 (despite both TV Fool & the FCC website showing strong coverage over my area), but I hear most people don't get WCHU-LD since they were forced off of 44 by WLS-TV, when 44 opened up for full power use in the Chicago market. WWAZ, licensed to Fon Du Lac, WI, was originally issued RF 44, & WCHU-LD in Chicago was on RF 44. When WWAZ (been off the air since 2008) changed to RF 5, WLS-TV jumped on the opportunity to snatch RF 44, forcing WCHU-LD off the air. I don't know if I would have gotten WCHU-LD on RF 44, had I have a pre-amp on my old antenna, but I had no pre-amp on my antenna at the time, & didn't get them. Since going to RF 33, most people in the market don't get them. Now, they put in an application to move to RF 28 (hope that one is denied), hoping more people get their station. Problem with that is that then WOCH-LP was forced off of RF 28 back in 2002 or 2003, when WTMJ-TV Milwaukee signed on in digital. As for WLS-TV, I've had more problems with RF 44 than with RF 7 reception wise. I actually wish they had just gone with a UHF translator for the immediate Chicago area & sought a power increase for RF 7 (translator was gonna be RF 32, but was abandoned for RF 44 for full power use, making RF 32 available for WMEU-LD).

As for Pappas Broadcasting & WWAZ, I hear they now regret their decision to move to RF 5, because their old channel (RF 44) is no longer available. Even worse, they requested to have their antenna placed in the Milwaukee antenna farm, while Fon Du Lac is licensed to the Green Bay market. If this station ever gets back on the air, they won't be able to get on satellite system's local channel package, because Fon Du Lac is part of the Green Bay, & by FCC rules, the station (if they ever get back on the air) can not be added to the Milwaukee local channel package. They asked to move their antenna to Milwaukee, because the tower that has their analog antenna on it, has too many antennas already, & supposedly can't handle anymore antennas. They chose not to remove their antenna to install a new antenna, since the station is already off the air. If they ever get back on the air, it'll be interesting how far they get out, because according to TV fool, people as far south as Chicago, as far north as Green Bay, & as far west as Madison, WI, could pick up this station on RF 5 at 25kw.

Last edited by dave73; 12-09-2011 at 04:04 PM.
Reason: correct some errors, & added some subchannels to W25DW-D

What Channels Do You Get By Antenna?

I have been dragging my feet for a while now, but I was definitely due to re-scan. I have some Zenith DTT-901 boxes, a couple of DTVPals, some internal TV tuners, and probably others. I get forty different channels and they are as follows:

002-01 tpt 2

002-02 tpt MN

002-03 tpt Life

002-04 tpt WX

002-99 tpt Temp

004-01 WCCO-DT

005-01 KSTP-DT-1

005-03 KSTP DT-3

005-04 KSTC DT-2

005-45 KSTC DT-1

009-01 KMSP-DT

009-02 KMSP-SD

011-01 KARE-DT

011-02 KARE-WX

016-01 K16HYD

016-02 SMB-TV

016-03 SMB-TV

016-04 SMB-TV

016-05 SMB-TV

023-01 WUCW-DT

023-02 Cool TV

023-03 Country

025-01 K25IA

025-02 K25IA

025-03 K25IA

025-04 K25IA

025-05 K25IA

029-01 WFTC-DT

029-02 WFTC-SD

033-01 K14KH

033-02 3ABN-PR

033-03 3ABN-ES

033-04 3ABN-RD

033-05 Radio74

033-06 3ABN-RL

041-01 KPXM-DT

041-02 qubo

041-03 ION Life

045-05 KSTP Rewind

062-01 WDMI

Each tuner displays the information slightly differently from one another. My ZIP code is 55068 in case you want to look at further details for this market. I have looked at antennaweb.org, TV Fool, TitanTV, RabbitEars.Info, and others, but RabbitEars seems to be the most up to date for my market.

Here are the channels I receive with my antenna - the Eagle Aspen DB4 with the Eagle Aspen 25db amplifier. I'm located on the MA/RI border about 5 miles east of Providence, RI, and 40 miles southwest of Boston, MA.

Notes: The stations in Boston transmit from Needham, MA; those in Providence transmit from Rehoboth, MA; those in Worcester transmit from Boylston, MA; the Marlboro station transmits from Hudson, MA; the station on Block Island, RI transmits from Richmond, RI; and the New Bedford station transmits from Freetown, MA.

My location is 41 miles north of the Cedar Hill antenna farm for Dallas-Ft. Worth and 65 miles south of Madill, OK where KXII, my only out-of-the-DMA facility, has its site. My current setup is an HBU-44 (aimed south) with a YA-1713 (aimed north), both in the attic. A scan nets a total of 88 streams from these 30 stations:

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What's your antenna configuration? I see a few Baltimore facilities there but have you tried to optimize your setup to get WMAR, WBAL, WJZ and WBFF?

We're using a janky old set of rabbit ears for now, and truthfully, I haven't to optimize at all since we're getting our locals with Cox cable. It's probably time I do a rescan since it's been well over a year since my last one.

Hey there!

This is what I get with my outdoor antennas (Winegard HD9032 for UHF Chicago, Winegard HD-1080 for WYIN on RF 17, & Antennacraft CS600 for WOCK-CD & WBBM-TV Chicago) : (spacing shows up when I type, but when it's posted, it doesn't format to the same spacing. So the virtual channel is to the left, & the RF channel is next to it in bold)

VC RF
02.1 12 WBBM-TV (CBS) (1080i)

05.1 29 WMAQ-TV (NBC) (1080i)
05.2 Nonstop
05.3 Universal Sports (until the end of the month, then not sure if the subchannel will simply disappear, or something else will take its place)

I personally don't care that I don't get WCHU-LD on RF 33 (despite both TV Fool & the FCC website showing strong coverage over my area), but I hear most people don't get WCHU-LD since they were forced off of 44 by WLS-TV, when 44 opened up for full power use in the Chicago market. WWAZ, licensed to Fon Du Lac, WI, was originally issued RF 44, & WCHU-LD in Chicago was on RF 44. When WWAZ (been off the air since 2008) changed to RF 5, WLS-TV jumped on the opportunity to snatch RF 44, forcing WCHU-LD off the air. I don't know if I would have gotten WCHU-LD on RF 44, had I have a pre-amp on my old antenna, but I had no pre-amp on my antenna at the time, & didn't get them. Since going to RF 33, most people in the market don't get them. Now, they put in an application to move to RF 28 (hope that one is denied), hoping more people get their station. Problem with that is that then WOCH-LP was forced off of RF 28 back in 2002 or 2003, when WTMJ-TV Milwaukee signed on in digital. As for WLS-TV, I've had more problems with RF 44 than with RF 7 reception wise. I actually wish they had just gone with a UHF translator for the immediate Chicago area & sought a power increase for RF 7 (translator was gonna be RF 32, but was abandoned for RF 44 for full power use, making RF 32 available for WMEU-LD).

As for Pappas Broadcasting & WWAZ, I hear they now regret their decision to move to RF 5, because their old channel (RF 44) is no longer available. Even worse, they requested to have their antenna placed in the Milwaukee antenna farm, while Fon Du Lac is licensed to the Green Bay market. If this station ever gets back on the air, they won't be able to get on satellite system's local channel package, because Fon Du Lac is part of the Green Bay, & by FCC rules, the station (if they ever get back on the air) can not be added to the Milwaukee local channel package. They asked to move their antenna to Milwaukee, because the tower that has their analog antenna on it, has too many antennas already, & supposedly can't handle anymore antennas. They chose not to remove their antenna to install a new antenna, since the station is already off the air. If they ever get back on the air, it'll be interesting how far they get out, because according to TV fool, people as far south as Chicago, as far north as Green Bay, & as far west as Madison, WI, could pick up this station on RF 5 at 25kw.

I have some updates to my list.

5.2 Cozi TV (replaced Nonstop, & now widescreen)

WLS-TV has shut off their VHF signal, but problems still plague this station after over 3 1/2 years. Not everyone is getting them on RF 44 like those in the far western & far southern suburbs & in rural NW Indiana. These people were getting them better on RF 7. While I get them on RF 44, it has broken up a lot, & has been worse since returning to the Sears Tower. Seems to me that it's getting interference from WCPX on RF 43 & WSNS on RF 45, who all broadcast from the Sears Tower. At least for me, RF 44 worked a bit better from the John Hancock.

It depends on the area you live in as to exactly whats available, but if you post a TVFool report in your own thread, and the details of your exisiting system, we can try and give you some more advice if you like

nbound-au is a qualified Antenna, Satellite, and MATV installer.
I live in DVB-T land.