Idoit40fans wrote:Why were they talking about the Staal trade? If they're doing 2013(or 2012-2013 ratings for that matter), that would have been done the previous year at this time, aka the trade would have been party of the 2011-12 season

The grade was based on the past season and then the offseason moves to the airing of the broadcase. Sutter played his first season with the Pens so the time to evaluate the quality of the move was correct.

These guys do their homework. They talked of Ray's patience with Martin and the incredible season he gave in return but mentioned that unless the cap goes up a lot, Ray seriously gambled away the future of the franchise on 3 players. It was a solid objective review IMO.

You still can't judge that trade yet. It's all about pouliot. Sutter didn't do a good enough job this year to justify the trade all on his own.

Well you can judge it, I guess. he got a better return than one could hope for, but not because of anything Sutter did.

How can anyone seriously think Fleury is worthless...not even a draft pick?

If Luongo (pre-Canucks) has that much value, then Fleury certainly has similar value. Both goalies are lights out in the regular season and falter come playoff time. Fleury, if traded would net a decent and similar return.

Prior to the start of the 2006–07 season, Panthers general manager Mike Keenan traded Luongo to the Vancouver Canucks on June 23, 2006. He was packaged with defenceman Lukáš Krajíček and a sixth round draft pick (Sergei Shirokov) in exchange for forward Todd Bertuzzi, defenceman Bryan Allen and goaltender Alex Auld.[55]

Now, keep in mind, that trade was orchestrated by Keenan who had a penchant for selling low just to get rid of players he no longer liked. And Keenan HATED goalies -- all goalies!

The one thing that bothers me in all of this is that we consider Despres and Bortuzzo "young" at 22 and 24 and they can't touch the ice. How are we ever going to get the truly young stud d-men we have on the ice? I guess since Dumoulin is the same age as Despres that he is the only one they will sincerely give a look at.

"If you can play, we'll find a spot for you," Ducks director of player development Todd Marchant told NHL.com. "Don't care if you're 18, 19, 20, 21, however old you are. If you're going to be able to play in the National Hockey League, we're going to find a spot for you."

And that's how you remain competitive even when your star players go MIA.

Anaheim btw, is stock full of young forwards, even more so after trading Ryan. A great potential trade partner to restock the forward pool... Check out NHL.com today for more.

pcm wrote:"If you can play, we'll find a spot for you," Ducks director of player development Todd Marchant told NHL.com. "Don't care if you're 18, 19, 20, 21, however old you are. If you're going to be able to play in the National Hockey League, we're going to find a spot for you."

And that's how you remain competitive even when your star players go MIA.

Anaheim btw, is stock full of young forwards, even more so after trading Ryan. A great potential trade partner to restock the forward pool... Check out NHL.com today for more.

The Blackhawks have taken the same approach while geezer teams like the Rangers fade away every year. More and more, those trade deadline moves Shero made last season look even more terrible.

At some point, one of these younger teams like the Isles, Oilers, Avs are going to break through and we'll still be waiting for "our" time with what will increasingly be an older squad. Not saying that we necessarily have a bunch of young studs who deserve ice time just that the current thinking seems to be so bent towards age and not youthful exuberance.

pcm wrote:"If you can play, we'll find a spot for you," Ducks director of player development Todd Marchant told NHL.com. "Don't care if you're 18, 19, 20, 21, however old you are. If you're going to be able to play in the National Hockey League, we're going to find a spot for you."