Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) and conservative columnist George Will told a Sunday panel on ABC News that gun violence in the United States was caused by mental illness, video games, violence in the media and even “unparented” boys from single-parent homes — but they refused to accept that gun control was part of the problem.

“Look, I’m a concealed-carry permit holder,” Chaffetz explained. “I own a Glock 23. I’ve got a shotgun. I’m not the person you need to worry about. And there are millions of Americans who deal with this properly. It’s our Second Amendment right to do so. But we have to look at the mental health access that these people have.”