Somehow a long term storage for coffee beans and or espresso grind as to be added into the mix to. Because I live alone and don't want to buy beans and thrown 70% away after 2 weks.

What I had before was a Nespresso machine and the cups are vacuumed so the taste is very consistent and last for a long long time without noticing quality change (at least I did not notice). My favourite nespresso cup was the arpeggio (strength 9) which reminded me to some of the cappuccino's I had in Italy with a complex flavour of cofffee with hints of nuts and chocolate.

Anyway I look for a machine that can match this taste for not to much money. So I of course could go for another nespresso machine for 200 Euro with a nice milk foamer and then i get 80 euro's worth of cups with it. good deal good price good qaulity.

But I am willing to spend more money if I can go beyond the Nespresso Arpeggio cappuccino results (but it is already pretty good cappuccino, I have tasted much worse in 5 star hotels, even in Italy). But I am sure it can get better.

I hope people have good advice. My main problem is that I don't drink to much coffee and don't want the bean to go stale.So this has to be considered to.

Your budget should factor in a coffee grinder, not just the machine. You must grind fresh coffee for decent espresso, there is no other way to do it. Pre-ground coffee sucks because it "dies" very quickly. The key to a decent espresso is ensuring that the coffee grounds are fresh!

What comes to mind right away is the Saeco Aroma, which will be within your budget, but you still need to buy a grinder for it! For your budget, you can use a cheap burr grinder found at a department store to grind your coffee fine enough for a pressurized machine.Don't buy a blade grinder, as they do not grind evenly enough for the kind of grind you are looking for.

taomacuzuh Said:

Somehow a long term storage for coffee beans and or espresso grind as to be added into the mix to.

Storing coffee beans is as easy as buying mason jars or any air-tight and water-tight container. If you freeze the coffee beans, they can last up toabout 4 months, but they must never be re-frozen. Once they are dethawed, they must be used within about 7-10 days.

Unfrozen Coffee beans must be used no more than 21 days after roasting. You never store ground coffee because it will stale in as little as 15 minutes after you grind it and turns into toxic waste if you freeze then dethaw it. You only grind coffee as you need it.

I find that if I split up a kilogram of coffee into four 250 gram ziploc bags or air-tight containers, then freeze what I don't use and only use up one 250 gram container per week, I can make a kilogram of coffee last me about a month. You should never re-freeze coffee beans, once you take them out of the bag, put them into a grinder hopper and use them up over the span of the week. For your usage, I would recommend considering buying your coffee in 500 gram bags to start out.

taomacuzuh Said:

Anyway I look for a machine that can match this taste for not to much money.

Well, the suggestions I gave you above is really only good if you plan on drinking at least one coffee per day. If you plan on drinking coffee seldomly, then I wouldrecommend sticking with nespresso capsules or k-cups.

Garbage In, Garbage Out, for every step of the process. From Beans to grinder, grounds to machine, coffee to cup.

In short, if you liked what you had, you may be best served by just buying a machine like you had. True espresso will cost more than your budget by the time you add in a grinder etc. While it is far from great espresso, it will take little space, solves your storage issues and travels well.

When you return home, then consider moving up to a quality machine and setup. YMMV.

In real life, my name isWayne P.Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Can you clarify where your country is? Better yet, where in that country you are moving to?

Your budget should factor in a coffee grinder, not just the machine. You must grind fresh coffee for decent espresso, there is no other way to do it. Pre-ground coffee sucks because it "dies" very quickly. The key to a decent espresso is ensuring that the coffee grounds are fresh!

What comes to mind right away is the Saeco Aroma, which will be within your budget, but you still need to buy a grinder for it! For your budget, you can use a cheap burr grinder found at a department store to grind your coffee fine enough for a pressurized machine.Don't buy a blade grinder, as they do not grind evenly enough for the kind of grind you are looking for.

Storing coffee beans is as easy as buying mason jars or any air-tight and water-tight container. If you freeze the coffee beans, they can last up toabout 4 months, but they must never be re-frozen. Once they are dethawed, they must be used within about 7-10 days.

Unfrozen Coffee beans must be used no more than 21 days after roasting. You never store ground coffee because it will stale in as little as 15 minutes after you grind it and turns into toxic waste if you freeze then dethaw it. You only grind coffee as you need it.

I find that if I split up a kilogram of coffee into four 250 gram ziploc bags or air-tight containers, then freeze what I don't use and only use up one 250 gram container per week, I can make a kilogram of coffee last me about a month. You should never re-freeze coffee beans, once you take them out of the bag, put them into a grinder hopper and use them up over the span of the week. For your usage, I would recommend considering buying your coffee in 500 gram bags to start out.

Well, the Nespresso acts like a pressurized portafilter machine, so the Saeco should be a good start.

Well, the suggestions I gave you above is really only good if you plan on drinking at least one coffee per day. If you plan on drinking coffee seldomly, then I wouldrecommend sticking with nespresso capsules or k-cups.

+1 Saeco machines are built well for the price point. The Saeco Via Venezia is what I recommend. If you look around you should be able to get one for less than $300. This machine has lot's of upgrades like unpresurized portafilter and latte are steam wand. You could spend the rest on a Baratza or Ascaso grinder like THIS

Ok thanks for the input. I plan to buy the coffee machine in the Netherlands. in about 2 months from now.It does not matter where i move to in my country since it is a small country.

If I buy an espresso machine are there any specific features i should look for, what specs or features are important?And if i buy the grinder what should i look for in the grinder, what specs or features are important?

Thanks.

P.S.Saeco is Philips and Philips makes really bad products that break easy and fast, often within warranty period. I don't now about Saeco but everything else is not very high quality. I rather buy Siemens, Bosch or Delonghi or something like that as The philips company disappointed me a lot over the years with many of there products. Although I must admit that somebody served me a espresso from a saeco machine and that was tasting pretty good. At least up to par with Nespresso or probably better.

Both machines are department store fodder, mostly suitable for wedding presents where they are not expected to actually make good espresso.

Spend your money where you wish but I will echo my post above, for your budget, and that you are moving around, a pod or capsule machine is likely your best bet. It will not be great quality but it will be drinkable.

For a reasonable starter espresso setup, you need to add to your budget. You can get more for your money by going with used gear but then you are taking chances on how the equipment was cared for.

In real life, my name isWayne P.Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Ok so what will the minimum be to buy a grinder? What brand and how much will that cost me?I think I probably want to stick with Nespresso becuase i am done for 200 euro and get 80 euro worth of espresso cups with it. And also I know what i get and it is not bad at all (in my opinion).

Can you guys naybe give me some examples or prices from machines I should buy and what grinder and what will this cost me.I really don't know what to look for in a machine and what features are important.

Is this Saeco Venezia (that somebody mentioned earlier)a good machine or also not good enough?

The standard recommendation is a Baratza Preciso or equivalent or better. Or a good hand grinder if budget does is too restrictive and one is willing to deal with hand grinding.

I'd also suggest just getting a Nespresso if you're happy with what it produces. It's not just a matter of buying equipment but the learning curve as well.

taomacuzuh Said:

Can you guys naybe give me some examples or prices from machines I should buy and what grinder and what will this cost me.I really don't know what to look for in a machine and what features are important.

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