Re: Official Mist Thread

Here's my set up, and it works PERFECTLY, for under $30! Will attach it to my EZ-up canopy. It comes with 10 feet (6 nozzles) of misting line (perfect for one side of my EZ up) and another 10 feet of non-misting line to run down to the ground/handpump.

I know there are cheaper 2 gallon pumps and various sizes, like the one you (Dustin) linked on Harbor Freight, but the closest HF to me is an hour away so I just felt like going to my local Home Depot. These are the ONLY 2 things I bought, (no adapters, no additional tubing, no clamps, no sealant, nothing at all etc) and my system is amazing. Well actually I also bought a better-fitting rubber O-ring, as you'll see in the pictures below, but those cost pennies.

With this setup, it's probably about a pump a minute, so 25 pumps lasts 25 minutes, 10 pumps 10 minutes, etc! This is a very simple, perfectly working solution. Pumping is effortless, I can easily see myself sitting under my EZ-up in a chair, and without even getting out of my chair just reaching over and pumping a few times to keep it flowing! It also only took like 5 minutes to put together.

Here is the finished result that I will attach to my EZ-up

A closer look at the beautiful conjoining of the pump to the mister. The valve has a built-in locking mechanism so I can keep the valve open and mist coming without having to physically squeeze the trigger for mist.

And heres what the connection actually looks like... there is absolutely no dripping or loss of pressure! I bought an O-ring that fits snugly on the mist tube, and then just used the screw cap that came with the pump system (the screw cap came with the pump, and was intended to use to attach the various spray nozzles that came with the pump).

I would not attempt trying to use an electric fountain pump to hook up to a mister... I started doing some research and you basically would need a VERY POWERFUL fountain pump to create enough pressure. You need about 45 psi to operate the mister (if there isn't enough pressure, the water dripples/drips out, instead of creating a fine mist). Most of these cheap fountain pumps have a head height (basically the distance that the pump can push water vertically) of anywhere between 2-8 feet. To figure PSI, you take the head height in feet, and multiply by 0.434.
So for example, here is a $70 pond pump, http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 (560 gallons per hour)
that has a head height of 14.3 feet. 14.3ft x 0.434 = 6.2 PSI! Not even close to 45 PSI. You would need a fountain pump capable of pushing water 90 feet high to get that kind of pressure!
You could always get thishttp://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 but seriously? $400 for mist, not including a method to power it?

So long story short, just get a hand pump. It is light, cheap, easy, and it works, because I bought it, assembled it, tested it, and it works perfectly.

Re: Official Mist Thread

This might be an incredible coincidence, but my Home Depot that I picked mine up from has 20 of them, and then literally no other Home Depot within hours has them. Are you in the bay area? Referring to the Home Depot in Brentwood?

Also, how much non-drinking water (for mist, showers, cooking, etc) are you bringing, and in what containers?

Re: Official Mist Thread

Originally Posted by lovethelake

This might be an incredible coincidence, but my Home Depot that I picked mine up from has 20 of them, and then literally no other Home Depot within hours has them. Are you in the bay area? Referring to the Home Depot in Brentwood?

Also, how much non-drinking water (for mist, showers, cooking, etc) are you bringing, and in what containers?

No I'm in so cal actually, and a bunch of home depots are sold out, and what bothers me I asked Home Depot a few weeks ago if they had these and they said they didn't but I have the product number so I'll go to customer service.

And it's looking like it can go through about 2 gallons in roughly 15-20min... the main day it will be used is Thursday and Monday during pack up, but Fri-Sun I wont be using it that much if at all. SO maybe like... 3hrs on Thursday and 1.5 hrs (if that, Monday) plus we'll say a half hour a day... that's like

Now that's continued use. So... if you spaced the misting down, you could probably get by with more in the neighborhood of 38 or so.

To be honest I'll probably bring in the neighborhood of like... 20-30gallons because of weight, and just make due.

Now... here is another idea I had... you get those giant arrowhead bottles (for water dispensers) and you bring like 2 of those with you, that's 10 gallons.

So that gives you 5 gallons Thursday, 5 Gallons Friday. Re-up at Ralph's Saturday and you're set for the rest of the fest.

As for other water i'm bringing in small 1 gallon containers, that water is for cleaning dishes and the solar shower.

What I really suggest is going to Harbor Freight and getting reflective tarp for the other side of the canopy wall. That gives you the full canopy plus shade to the other side. That will make the canopy nice and cool, so you won't be misting constantly. And if it's another 100+ degree year, our misting won't compare to the Do Lab.

Re: Official Mist Thread

Originally Posted by Dustin da DnB Soulja

No I'm in so cal actually, and a bunch of home depots are sold out, and what bothers me I asked Home Depot a few weeks ago if they had these and they said they didn't but I have the product number so I'll go to customer service.

My local Home Depot (according to the website) said they had 20 in stock... I called them the day I went to buy it, gave them the store SKU#, and they confirmed they had 20 in stock. When I showed up, and asked some random associates where I could find their misters they said those were seasonal and that they wouldn't be in for months. I gave them the SKU#, and they looked it up, and to their surprise, they were like "apparently we have 20 of them in section XXXX, let me take you there now". Wasn't that simple. Yes, they were scanned in by the receiving department, but they weren't placed on the shelves yet, and certainly weren't in the section that the computers said they were. Long story short, and 15 minutes later of manual searching and scanning identical looking boxes with numbers scribbled all over them, we finally found them high up on some storage shelf (way up high above the shelves where processed, cataloged, priced merchandise is) in an unopened unmarked box. But I eventually got it.

Originally Posted by Dustin da DnB Soulja

And it's looking like it can go through about 2 gallons in roughly 15-20min... the main day it will be used is Thursday and Monday during pack up, but Fri-Sun I wont be using it that much if at all. SO maybe like... 3hrs on Thursday and 1.5 hrs (if that, Monday) plus we'll say a half hour a day... that's like

Now that's continued use. So... if you spaced the misting down, you could probably get by with more in the neighborhood of 38 or so.

Really? 2 gallons in 15-20 minutes? My setup with the 2 gallon pump will easily last at least an hour, maybe closer to an hour and a half. though I don't pump it 20-25 pumps, because they it really goes through a lot of water with that pressure, instead I pump it like 10-15 times, albeit more often, and the 2 gallon tank easily lasts an hour. That is bizarre that yours goes through that much water if our setups are almost identical, because seriously, the 2 gallons lasts 1.5 hours. Considering what time I'm arriving Thursday, by the time I'm set up it will be evening and cooler out anyway, so I probably won't need it at all Thursday. Friday/Saturday/Sunday, I'll probably only use it a little bit in the morning, and then for about an hour each of those days when we are actually back at the campsite for lunch. It sounds like you are going to be using your mister almost constantly, but I honestly think 30 gallons for the entire weekend is a generous estimate for misting and solar showers, for me and my camp spot (4 people). Those giant plastic 5 gallon bottles that you mentioned are a great idea, although I have no idea where to buy them. I may also just get 2 of these collapsing containers, which also hold 5 gallons. http://www.rei.com/product/708992

Originally Posted by Dustin da DnB Soulja

What I really suggest is going to Harbor Freight and getting reflective tarp for the other side of the canopy wall. That gives you the full canopy plus shade to the other side. That will make the canopy nice and cool, so you won't be misting constantly.

Link? Have you used this reflective tarp in the past? I was worried about breath-ability on using tarp, so I was just planning on getting some CHEAP bed sheets ( I figure some cheap low thread-count sheets will basically have like a million little holes for fresh air to seep through, but please correct me if I'm wrong)
Or are bed sheets as EZup walls not that effective and a bad idea?
I have no experience with walls, we only had an EZup last year.
Do you use that tarp on just one side of the EZup? Or all 4 walls? or 2? Or maybe even perhaps 3? Again, I have no experience with walls on the EZup but I feel like 4 is too much (like baking trapped air in an oven) and 1 is too little. Or is it?

Re: Official Mist Thread

We tarp off a few sides of our E-Z ups, and air flow has never been a problem.

Leave the side facing the scorecards open (wind always seems to blow from that direction). We zip-tie the edges of the tarps to the legs of the E-z Up but leave some gaps so wind can get through. You can also kinda roll up the tarps part way (we stick an extra chair or cooler under it) if the breeze dies down and you want more air flow.

Re: Official Mist Thread

Originally Posted by lovethelake

Really? 2 gallons in 15-20 minutes? My setup with the 2 gallon pump will easily last at least an hour, maybe closer to an hour and a half. though I don't pump it 20-25 pumps, because they it really goes through a lot of water with that pressure, instead I pump it like 10-15 times, albeit more often, and the 2 gallon tank easily lasts an hour. That is bizarre that yours goes through that much water if our setups are almost identical, because seriously, the 2 gallons lasts 1.5 hours. Considering what time I'm arriving Thursday, by the time I'm set up it will be evening and cooler out anyway, so I probably won't need it at all Thursday. Friday/Saturday/Sunday, I'll probably only use it a little bit in the morning, and then for about an hour each of those days when we are actually back at the campsite for lunch. It sounds like you are going to be using your mister almost constantly, but I honestly think 30 gallons for the entire weekend is a generous estimate for misting and solar showers, for me and my camp spot (4 people). Those giant plastic 5 gallon bottles that you mentioned are a great idea, although I have no idea where to buy them. I may also just get 2 of these collapsing containers, which also hold 5 gallons. http://www.rei.com/product/708992

Link? Have you used this reflective tarp in the past? I was worried about breath-ability on using tarp, so I was just planning on getting some CHEAP bed sheets ( I figure some cheap low thread-count sheets will basically have like a million little holes for fresh air to seep through, but please correct me if I'm wrong)
Or are bed sheets as EZup walls not that effective and a bad idea?
I have no experience with walls, we only had an EZup last year.
Do you use that tarp on just one side of the EZup? Or all 4 walls? or 2? Or maybe even perhaps 3? Again, I have no experience with walls on the EZup but I feel like 4 is too much (like baking trapped air in an oven) and 1 is too little. Or is it?

I'll double check how much the mister uses I could have completely over-shot my water consumption (seems like it)

Re: Official Mist Thread

The Oring I got was labeled as a size #5, whatever that means. Upon further inspection of the little package that the Orings came in, it said they had an OD outer diameter of 3/8" and an ID inner diameter of 1/4". And it fits perfectly. Though it should be pointed out that my mister system that I linked to in the 2nd post, is labeled as a 1/4" system. I bring this up because the same brand also has an almost identical system that you can buy but is a 3/8" diameter, which is obviously slightly bigger than my 1/4" system.

I'm not sure if those mist system measurements (1/4 vs 3/8) refer to the OD or ID, nor do I care because mine already works perfectly, but just sayin, I have the Orbit 1/4" mister system, and the #5 Oring fits perfectly.

Re: Official Mist Thread

I did this last year and I can confirm that fountain pump simply are not powerful enough. I had a few laying around and that was my first idea.

If you have access to an old refrigerator or RO water filter though those pumps work GREAT. They are powerful enough and they have a sensor that tells them what pressure to pump to then turns them off. I found a pump on craigslist and then bought a new 60psi sensor from the manufacturer for mine.

Re: Official Mist Thread

Success

Same set up as above. Ran about 80 minutes on 2 gallons. The o-rings I bought turned out to be too small, but I stretched them over the tubing anyway, then added the o-ring that came with the sprayer wand (which was too big on it's own). Amazingly, they kind of locked together and don't leak at all.

Re: Official Mist Thread

Originally Posted by M Sparks

Success

Same set up as above. Ran about 80 minutes on 2 gallons. The o-rings I bought turned out to be too small, but I stretched them over the tubing anyway, then added the o-ring that came with the sprayer wand (which was too big on it's own). Amazingly, they kind of locked together and don't leak at all.