Ok I posted a couple of days ago I tried installing a TS tuner and it fried my PCM. I oredered a used replacement one and it came today. I decided to out into the 15 deg weather to install it. I hooked up everything reconected the batteries turned the key and nothing(no crank). With the old PCM there was no "wait to start light" and "serv engine light" stayed on. Well now everything looks good and it just wont crank. I tried jumping it because maybe with the cold weather and not being started for 4 days maybe they were low. It did they same thing not even try to crank. I pulled both batteries and they are charging now so if you can think of anything I would appreciate the help. Thanks!!

when you tried to start it, did you hear the relay clicking under the hood? I would imagine if the CEL and WTS light came on, it had enough juice to click the relay, just not enought juice to turn the starter.

if it is the relay, it is a easy fix, 3 wires, and 2 screws, and it looks like stock GPR, just on the fender.

clutch switch bad? If that is the case, put the parking brake on, MAKE SURE it is nutral, turn your key to run. Now pop the hood, and goto the relay, there is a little wire coming off the relay, take it off, and put a screw driver from the hot side terinal to the small wire terminal. This should engauge the starter and start the truck. If it starts, you then can eliminate the relay and starter as the problems. be casefull, do not want you to get hurt, but there is my "hillbilly" start. It is great when you are trying to troubleshoot a no start problem, so you do not have to run to the cab every time!

where are you at Armymp15? PS. Thanks for serving in the army for us non hackers!

I am charging the batteries again because I took them to Auto Zone and one tested good never dropped below 12 and the other one dropped down to 10 so we are charging it and going to test again. As soon as I get them back I will jump the solenoid I have done it several times before. I will let you know how it turns out. Where is the clutch sensor located? As for my location I am on the IN/IL border in a town called Vincennes, IN. I have been in the Army for about 9 years and most of it Reserve time with 3 deployments. I actually just got back from Iraq like a month ago. I appreciate everyones suggestions and look forward to spending alot of time on here even when my truck is running. Thanks again

the clutch switch is by the clutch petal. it is towards the up of it, and when it is pressed to the floor, it will close the switch, and let you start the truck. I no longer have a manual, so I can not get a pic.... It might be kinda hidden and and hard to see but i am sure you can find it.

You are a bit far for me to head over to help..... there is a few army guard bases close to me, and WPAFB is close too, and they have a lot of Army personal too.

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