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Who has the body? Alessandra Ambrosio or Dasha from Hegre Art?

Submitted by Admin on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 23:33

Alessandra Ambrosio was previously contrasted with Dasha from Hegre art. Here are the video comparisons.

The following compilation of Alessandra Ambrosio is from ryoni.com. See download/alternative link if you are unable to watch it. For smooth playback, start the video, mute the volume and let it download fully while you do something else. After the download is complete, you will be able to watch it without interruptions.

Alessandra Ambrosio compilation video.

The following video is of Dasha from Hegre Art. I haven’t censored the video, but censoring a video is a pain, and the effort wouldn't be worth it because the video is of artistic value. To watch the video you need javascript enabled and the Flash video plugin installed or else see the download link.

Comments

Dasha has a nice bum, but she seems a little husky to me. Her arms, legs, neck, waist... all seem kind of thick. Aren't delicate, dainty features feminine? Incidentally, Dasha should try conditioning her hair.

Alessandra, on the other hand, has long, skinny arms and legs, a graceful neck, and a slim waist. In other articles on this website, you've disdained long arms as masculine, but longer arms have a greater length-to-width ratio, making them appear thinner - likewise for the rest of the body. So, a tall woman with long limbs can appear slimmer, therefore daintier, therefore more feminine. Slimness is a hallmark of women's beauty, at least in the West. Narrow stilettos, slinky evening gowns, and the slim cigarettes (and cigarette holders) that only women smoke, all point in this direction. I don't think only homosexual men appreciate slimness.

You also say (on another page) that her "narrow" face is a masculine feature, but I think that a narrow head is a feminine feature. I read an article (I can't remember where, maybe Nature?) suggesting that the shape and size of the skull is an evolutionary battle between men and women, since men want the largest possible brain, whereas women, although they also might want large brains, need their offspring's skull to pass through the pelvis, so favour a narrower head. In any case, I think a narrower face is better-looking on both men and women.

Admittedly Alessandra's buttocks are flat (although not sunken), but her breasts and hips seem adequate to me. You say she has implants; I don't know if that's true, but her breasts look fine to me. She's eating waffles in the video, and her wikipedia page says she loves chocolate, so if she has an eating disorder, she's eating conspicuously to hide it. But, she looks healthy to me.

Ashley: Dasha doesn’t appear to be on the thicker side of optimum to me, especially for lingerie modeling. If you prefer slimmer women, I can post videos of slim women that are clearly much more feminine than Alessandra, but this will have to be on a new page since I have the code for posting videos disabled in the comments section.

Slimness is not a problem in Western societies, but the homosexual designers go beyond slim. Many of their models are too thin for most people.

Men tend to have relatively longer arms and a narrower face shape compared to women, but this doesn’t make long arms or narrow faces by themselves masculine. Just contrast the narrow face of Jennifer Love Hewitt with Alessandra’s. Jennifer has the face of a woman but Alessandra doesn’t. I have featured plenty of narrow-faced women in the attractive women section. Just take a look.

I don’t believe Alessandra has an eating disorder. She appears to be naturally thin.

Eric, There has to be other sources out there where you can find examples of "feminine" women. You found some classier actresses in your attractive women section. Why don't you post videos of them instead? Dasha's video is really sad and disgusting. Her body may past your femininity test but a lot of viewers, even those who prefer average looks, might be turned off of the sleaze factor in this video. It is hard to look past the pathetic display that Dasha is making of herself. People can easily accuse you of pushing a sleazy type of aesthetic and behaviour by looking at this page and a lot of your other pages.

Alessandra is not my favorite model but she looks attractive and somewhat vivacious in her video. Compare her to Dasha who is lifting up her skirt to reveal her pasty breasts and her bikini wax. I don't know about men but I think that most women judge a person's demeanor and body language as well as their physical appeal to calculate their attractiveness. Dasha's skin is blotchy and pink while Alessandra is tanned and Dasha's hair looks a parched bit of fluff while Alessandra hair is styled and shiny. People judge attractiveness by the skin and hair as well as the body type. Alessandra does not have big titties or wide hips but at least she looks clean. The same cannot be said for your nude model. Dasha looks like she smells.

Danielle: I am surprised that you are giving me advice to improve my message. I usually go the convenient route. It would have taken more work to get a clip of a feminine mainstream actress. I will see if I can obtain such clips.

The question being asked is who has the body (shape)? Therefore, hair, color, demeanor and body language are not relevant. Have you smelled Dasha?...just more of your nonsense.

Even though Alessandra isn't the most feminine woman out there, you have to admit she is a pretty girl. She may not fit exactly to my taste, but I would be crazy to call her ugly.

That video of Dasha is probably the most hilarious thing I've ever watched. It's so laughable how such ugly girls try so hard to look sexy. The woman is beat as hell, Erik. I don't care how supposedly nice her body is, because her face, skin, hair, and demeanor just ruins it all. Even the dress she's wearing is trashy. And Danielle is right - she does look like she smells.

I'd rather look like Alessandra any day over Dasha; probably 99% of all women would. That's the reason why Alessandra is a supermodel, and Dasha isn't. Ale is fit and toned too, while Dasha looks like she'll be saggy and cellulite-infested in about five years tops.

Der Wanderer: Great find! Especially the second link showing Alessandra washing her car. Someone even left a comment wondering whether the person shown was a boy.

Sarah: Alessandra a pretty girl? She doesn’t look like a girl or woman. I am not saying she looks ugly, but a pretty girl at least needs to look female. If you would rather look like Alessandra, you can figure out what kind of people you would be sexually attracting.

> Great find! Especially the second link showing Alessandra washing her car.
> Someone even left a comment wondering whether the person shown was a boy.

Hold on!

There's another entry at The Superficial, featuring the same pics, but many more comments.

I took the time to make a selection of those most relevant to what this site stands for.
Sorry for the profanities, people.
Take it as a David Attenborough documentary on "The Sexual Response of the Human Male" or something ;p

Have fun :

18. DownAttheY - July 6, 2007 4:33 PM

She is way too skinny...no curves at all...it would be like having sex with a 12 year old boy.

25. DownAttheY - July 6, 2007 4:41 PM

BringIt-Ahole...I am sure you are skinny...that is why you are so offended by the fact that we all can't stand how thin she is...you probably have T or A and you just can't stand that guys like something to hold on to...not your hip bones protruding

36. Donkey - July 6, 2007 4:48 PM

pic 04-
Looks like a dude taking a piss.

45. jojo - July 6, 2007 5:09 PM

ugh. they never look good in real life. too skinny. u have to be skinny to look good modeling, but in real life she looks like a dude. i wouldn't gawk at her skinny chicken bod on the beach.

Straight guys don't masturbate every day to fashion models like Alessssssssssandra. We jerk off to (hopefully) some jiggly girl we saw in real life. Walking behind one during your commute home is a special treat if you're married. Or, maybe there was some big-titted girl at the office whose boobs we accidentally/intentionally brushed against while pretending to look at something together on the computer. Or, failing all else, there's now an infinity of online porno chicks with cartoonishly large boobs and butts (e.g., hit the bookmark to Bern's site). Jerking off to tall skinny bitchy supermodels??? Sheesh. Girls really have no idea what's going on in guys' heads (big and little). Thank fucking god for that.

55. miss oblivious - July 6, 2007 5:56 PM

Ok, superfish guy. Time to fess up now. She's not as perfect as you claimed her to be. With her size 12 clown feet, some beginning signs of cellulite on the backs of her rail thin legs, and the itty bitty titties. Oh, and the fact that she looks like an 11 year old prepubescent boy that just went thru a big growth spurt over the summer. 'Dems some hot shit; haha. No, not really. Hey, I just realized she's somewhat slyly flicking the camera man off in the first pic.

76. miss oblivious - July 6, 2007 9:17 PM

#73 ...I always thought guys liked tall girls too. But as it turns out, most guys I've met actually prefer small, petite girls w/ some curves. (And a big thing too is the whole "waist to hip ratio", but I won't even get into that). Guys might find the glamazon supermodels sexy on tv and in magazines, but they don't realize that the girls are tall and just photograph better for it, and in real life they usually aren't as drawn too tall, lanky, twiggy types. A lot of guys are short these days too, so what guy wants some chic towering over him? Not too many. Not only that, but you are bashing all these typical "American girls", saying they all have dirty blonde hair and are 5'6. Well, actually, 5'6 is considered somewhat tall for an American female. The average height is actually only around 5'4. All that being said, everyone has different taste, and it all just comes down to that, and also how people look as a whole; not just feature by feature, and not just by height. Oh yeh, and personality plays a big part too. So, basically...get over yourself.

90. drowningfool - July 6, 2007 10:14 PM

Maybe I have weird tastes or something but her legs and arms look like my grandpa's, and I'm not attracted to my grandpa...should I be?

103. Play Doctor - July 6, 2007 11:28 PM

Frenchie I feel sorry for you because you clearly have an "I wasn't a cheerleader" complex (you probably played water polo or basketball or some nasty man-girl shit).

Studies show that men FAR prefer women in the 5'4" to 5'6" range. Have you ever seen a stunningly beautiful girl with a 23 inch waist 34 inch hips and a full C cup with 18% body fat, super long gorgeous legs (lean and toned without an ounce of cellulite), long gorgeous hair and the face of an angel. That is the description of the hottest type of girl on earth and she will smoke the shit out of the manly fucking tall ass scare crows. At a bar, at work, ANYWHERE this type of girl will overwhelmingly get ALL THE ATTENTION over some nasty tall horse faced bitch that’s as tall as, and in many cases taller, than the guys and wears the same size shoes as them.

Like I said on the other Alessandra posts as a 6'2' athlete it fucking revolts me when a girl dresses up and puts on her heels and is as tall as me. Take my other surfer buddies starve them, shave them, put them in a wig and a bikini and they'll look just like this bitch. Why the fuck would that turn me on. Guys like girls who look feminine and last time I checked man-tall Amazonians look like nasty drag queens. Trust me 99% of guys will agree with me on this one. The other 1% are chubby chasers so you chicky are SHIT OUTTA LUCK. You and the tall bean poles aren't at the bottom of the food chain but no way in fuck are you at the top either. SOOOOOO many girls out smoke this type of run of mill skank.

P.S. No men ever lusted after Gwenyth Paltrow. That's just not the PRIME type of chick. Get over it. Only fat girls think that's the ultimate body type but, guys aren't that impressed by it.
AND if you have this body do yourself a favor and work out beacause like Alessandra you must be doughy, dimply and bony. If your face resembles hers you might wanna get a nose job too.

107. LaLaLa - July 7, 2007 12:22 AM

Hey 5'10" & Attractive -

If it makes you feel better to think that the whole world would jizz at the sight of someone with your looks, cool. Personally, I don't "hate" on women very often. I find most women attractive, actually, including a lot of celebs that get bashed here. I have NO trouble saying that a chick is pretty or hot, ever. But AA is not in my eyes. She's the polar opposite of everything I like about women. I like boobs. Butts. Curves. Pretty face. Nice voices. Eyes that don't look like someone sucked the soul of them. So when I say she looks like a boy, I mean it. If I saw her on the street would I pick apart her flaws? No way. I just wouldn't notice her at all, but then that probably bothers you most, judging by your little fit. Can't handle that we all have different tastes and some of u 0 gasp! - don't give a shit about tall and skinny chicks with bland looks? Sorry. For what it's worth, there are plenty of people that DO love this look, so I'm sure you'll get your share of jizz that you're so desperately seeking. It just won't be mine. :-)

114. unowho - July 7, 2007 1:42 AM

Man this chick is one nasty fugly man-faced dog.

116. grotto - July 7, 2007 2:16 AM

she's simply not that hot. i'm unsure why you feature her. yeah, she's a model, she has a "cool" pc, alliterative ethnic name, but she's frankly a bit mannish in a pubescent kind of way. also, who decides who becomes a model -- a panel of gay men, right? well, they don't speak for straight men. we like breasts and some semblence of an ass. thanks, though.

118. sharpeidude - July 7, 2007 3:42 AM

She's a fucking swizzle stick are you people kidding? This cadaver could pass for an Dachau survivor!

135. Flavio - July 7, 2007 12:41 PM

nnnnnot hotttt. average, boring, yawn. this is the kind of chick that gay dudes think is really hot...

141. skye - July 7, 2007 3:50 PM

Her legs are gross. Why is this person so popular with the men? Are all men gay?

142. mafme - July 7, 2007 4:15 PM

So far, there is a kind of funny trend in AA's most vocal supporters (not counting the people who are calm about saying that she's pretty): Straight woman & men/males who call everyone else gay. I mean, doesn't this *support* the people who say that she's a bit boyish? Straight women like her as do latent homosexuals.

169. erica - July 8, 2007 2:43 PM

where did her ass go?

183. HeavenScent - July 8, 2007 9:56 PM

p.s. where are Alessandra's boobs?!

189. lucky7 - July 9, 2007 2:10 AM

This bitch is disgusting to look at. No hips, no ass, little titties, and a man face.
Any guy who likes this disgraceful excuse for a real woman wants a dildo up his gay ass. Fucking fags.

211. hahahahathischickisdisgusting - July 9, 2007 7:45 PM

Hahahaha this chick is disgusting. I feel much better about myself now. Thanks, dude.
But you know who would think she is totally hot? Perez Hilton. Or any gay man, actually, because she has the body of a teenage male model.

217. A.King - July 10, 2007 12:42 PM

#19, You're straight, riiigggghhhtttt.. Well since you're not a guy you will never understand a guys perspective on a female "Super Model" who looks like she should be modeling in a Sears catalogue under the boys/ junior section.. She does have any assets or curvature that makes a woman a woman.. Her face is actually really normal looking and her body is well below average.. No disrespect to the young lady but there is something really wrong with society when a woman built like a 12 year old boy can be consider "Super" anything..

Danielle: The "glowing review" is nothing but jealous and ignorant women, and a few of them, as opposed to the more numerous commentators "praising" Alessandra above. So much for your claim that it is the public that has put Alessandra on a pedestal, not the homosexual fashion designers.

One of my critics at the superficial described me as:

Quote:

that guy is seriously smart, but the problem is he is basing his theory on flawed logic. he has an assumption of what 'feminity' is, the term feminity is a social construct and has nothing to do with the science of beauty. Most modern beauty researchers match beauty with signs of health or ability to procreate. - jujucabana

I think I see what's going on here; men are sexier than woman so woman that look like men do well in fashion.

And one of them saw the light:

Quote:

..and i'm now convinced that gisele is a man. an ugly one. and if you can't see this you are one sad gay man who really should get out of the closet. (and stop telling yourself that you can't be gay since you atleast findes one woman attractive) - Freda

As for the comment:that guy is seriously smart, but the problem is he is basing his theory on flawed logic. he has an assumption of what ‘feminity’ is, the term feminity is a social construct and has nothing to do with the science of beauty. Most modern beauty researchers match beauty with signs of health or ability to procreate. - jujucabana

Did you notice that this person thinks that femininity is socially constructed, but also that it is related to signs of health or ability to procreate? Someone's neurons aren't quite firing.

Sounds a lot like Calvin Klein Logic. Women are only beautiful when they resemble pre-pubescent boys. It's all horseshit. I don't need some bitter queen to tell me whats attractive in a female. I'm 20 times more qualified than the idiot who wrote this crap.

Heheheh
Oh, the irony :p

Let me introduce to you one of Ambrosius "handlers" (and his "friend") :

Erik, if all those "women" who were hating on you were simply jealous then I can say the same for all those people hating on Alessandra. I am sure that most women would have a greater reason to be jealous of Ale than they would to be jealous of you or anyone else on your lame ass site. If any group can put someone on a pedestal it's the general public not a small group of gay designers. The whole "pedestal" argument is useless anyways because Alessandra was never a successful high fashion model or fashion icon. Her claim to fame is Victoria' secret and you haven't proven that gay men are actually in charge of the casting for those lingerie shows.

Eric, do you honestly think that most people who come across this site are going to go through all that "anthropological" shit on those pages? I never argued that most people would like the looks of high fashion girls. I know that most people prefer the soft, pretty-in-an-average-way look. The models on your pages still cannot really compare with the VS girls because they are ugly. They may look "feminine" but they are still mostly plain or ugly

My problem with your stupid little site is that you feel that an alternative fashion industry needs to be set up based on model selection, which is ridiculous and naive. You also try to present your hypotheses as facts (gay designers are pederasts, shamans are responsible for body modification, gay designers have influenced the choice of beauty pageant contestants, ect…) and you have terrible taste in women and "art".

I don't understand being so hard on Alessandra. It's true, her but is nothing to look at, and she's not terrible curvy. But she has a beautiful face! I think she looks very womanly. Since when are women never allowed to have a strong jawline? It defines her face beautifully. Femininity comes in all different forms. I will give you that Karolina Kurkova and Marisa Miller have more masculine than feminine features, but I just can't see it with Ale.

And as for Dasha, wow, some people on here are really rude. I didn't focus on the way the video was done, I just focused on her body, which is what this post was about. And she has a great body. It would definitely be considered on the thick side by any modeling standards, but she has perfect proportions. Feminine and lovely. She would be a fabulous nude art model. And there's nothing wrong with pale skin. Sure, Ale looks good with her tan now but her skin's not going to look so good in thirty years, while people who don't give in to the "You must have a tan to be beautiful!" bullcrap will not be dealing with skin cancer and leathery skin.

Dude, I understand what you are trying to do, and I think it is admirable. That being said you need to change the way you talk about people. To say, "Jennifer has the face of a woman but Alessandra doesn’t" is patently absurd and insulting. Both of the women in the video are hot. Alessandra has nice hips and waist. She has lower body fat and more toned musculature than Dasha. She has more striking features than Dasha, but that does not make her masculine.
Dasha has the body of a nude model, which is more sexualized than a fashion model. Nude models' beauty are intended to get your dick hard. Fashion models are intended to be more of an intriguing and uncommon beauty. Softer features

You show a lack of understanding of what makes a woman and a man on an endocrinological level. Estrogen is highly important in male development as it is in female development. Testosterone is important in female development as well. It is an interplay of factors that makes us who we are. There is NO such thing as male sex hormones and female sex hormones. Different hormones bind to and affect different receptors in different ways. Labeling testosterone a "male sex hormone" and estrogen a "female sex hormone" was just a way for journalists to conceptualize endocrionological function to a simple minded public in a way they could somewhat grasp.

You should stop calling women with striking features male to female transsexuals. It is insulting and absurd (granted a number of those beauty pageant contestants look like dudes). You could get much farther in influencing people's opinions if you would tone down the "gay conspiracy" talk and not insult these women for being the way that they are.

Danielle: "Eric, There has to be other sources out there where you can find examples of "feminine" women. You found some classier actresses in your attractive women section. Why don't you post videos of them instead? Dasha's video is really sad and disgusting. Her body may past your femininity test but a lot of viewers, even those who prefer average looks, might be turned off of the sleaze factor in this video. It is hard to look past the pathetic display that Dasha is making of herself. People can easily accuse you of pushing a sleazy type of aesthetic and behaviour by looking at this page and a lot of your other pages.

Alessandra is not my favorite model but she looks attractive and somewhat vivacious in her video. Compare her to Dasha who is lifting up her skirt to reveal her pasty breasts and her bikini wax. I don't know about men but I think that most women judge a person's demeanor and body language as well as their physical appeal to calculate their attractiveness. Dasha's skin is blotchy and pink while Alessandra is tanned and Dasha's hair looks a parched bit of fluff while Alessandra hair is styled and shiny. People judge attractiveness by the skin and hair as well as the body type. Alessandra does not have big titties or wide hips but at least she looks clean. The same cannot be said for your nude model. Dasha looks like she smells."

Wow, Danielle, could you be more bigoted? I'm a White Nationalist, so I have no problem admitting bias, but I bet you are one of those so-called "anti-racist," "unprejudiced" types - even worse, a White person who likes picking on White characteristics as though that will win you favor from others of your ilk. So, Dasha has "pasty breasts" and "blotchy and pink" skin, huh? Let me ask you, what is ugly about PORCELAIN skin? What is ugly about ROSY skin? (And no, there is nothing "blotchy" about Dasha's skin.) Just fifty years ago, pale skin represented the pinnacle of beauty; FYI, tanning (which, incidentally makes women look less feminine) came into vogue relatively recently. Males in general prefer women who are lighter-skinned than themselves.

Both girls have fantastic bodies but Alessandra comparing to dasha is way better imo. Dasha looks like she never go to the gym ;) Anyway alessandra was my favourite model 10 years ago :) ( And still she is )

AA is not really my type, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A few of the comments here are just nasty & daft. If you don't find a woman attractive, so what? (I would have deleted the worst comments if this were my site.)

I'm amused that a white nationalist put one of the nastier commenters in their place - I guess we find allies where we can. I agree that white skin is beautiful - but I also find lightly tanned skin beautiful, and also naturally brown & black skin.

Just appreciate the beauty - if you don't like it, go to the next post or another site.

I agree that the fashion industry promotes an unhealthy norm for women, but some women naturally tend to be very skinny, and some are androgynous. They can still be beautiful, & some (not me) are particularly attracted to those types of women.

Likewise, some are short & some are tall - I seem to have always had short girlfriends, but tall women are beautiful too. The idea of ranting against a body type or even saying tall women are less attractive - it's all missing the point.

To Tom you are right he has interesting info to provide backed by science and what he's doing is admirable. He's also NOT trying to insult these women- but he has to make the point that many of them are masculine more than feminine to prove the whole of the site about feminity being important in women's looks for most of the hetro population which is true and just the way it is- regardless of whether it's PC or not, that's just biology.

He also stated that calling them masculine does NOT mean they're ugly nor is it an insult. Granted no women likes to be called masculine but he has to point out certain facts that correspond to science. And he has backed up his work whether ppl like it or not.

Also there is NO gay conspiracy theory on his site; he is NOT attacking anyone who's gay; he is JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW GAY DESIGNERS IN PARTICULAR HAVE DOMINATED THE FASHION INDUSTRY NEGATIVELY BY FORCING WOEMN TO LOOK LIKE BOYS AND LOSE TOO MUCH WEIGHT PUTTING THEIR HEALTH AT RISK AND DYING FOR THEIR JOB- which is neither healthy nor acceptable nor even normal.

If he were talking about STRAIGHT designers pushing for a certain look at the expense of women for instance (like Eli Saab and Ralph Lauren yes there are some straight designers ! But they're the minority) or even some straight women designers pushing for an agenda at the expense of a healthy and real body image for women, then no one would DREAM of questioning his theories!

But the sad thing is ppl question his theory ONLY BECAUSE IT ISN'T PC AND MAKES THEM UNCOMFORTABLE! That's fine but THAT ISN'T SCIENCE.

Other than that your comment was great Tom and I agree what he does is admirable for women.

And to Danielle and those into character bashing:

HE'S APPROACHING THINGS FROM A SCIENTIFIC ANGLE AND THOSE WHO COME TO HIS SITE SHOULD DO THE SAME! That's just keeping it real- not being against any weight or orientation. But ppl have the right to have a scientific argument, and if we don't agree we should come up with a counter argument that's convincing not attack their character . Character bashing only makes the one doing it look bad- and I haven't seen Eric indulging in that.

This site IS talking about science , Danielle, so Greg is right: With all due respect, if you're NOT interested in science, only in PC and character bashing why the hell do you keep coming back to this site??

Just because things are not politically correct doens't make them untrue, you need to study the argument objectively and rationally or not bother coming here. If Eric were not so polite he would have banned yr comments long ago as they're not objective and full of personal attacks to someone you don't even know.