The two men are good friends, and Perry was the only Republican governor in the country to endorse Giulianis presidential campaign in 2008. Payback could benefit Perry on a number of fronts  most notably fundraising  and would likely strengthen his status as a top-tier candidate if he decides to run.First and most importantly, Giuliani has deep connections in the New York City Republican money world.

(snip)

Perry has never had to raise money under federal contribution limits  $2,500 for the primary and $2,500 for the general election is all any single donor can give  and would have to change his model of finding a handful of major donors who can write huge checks to one centered around big bundlers who can collect hundreds of smaller checks.

His fundraising base in Texas gives Perry a foothold in one of the most donor-rich states in the country. With Giuliani making introductions for him in New York City, Perry would almost certainly have the financial foundation he would need to make a credible run  particularly given some of the less-than-inspiring sums reported over the past three months by his would-be rivals for the nomination.

Whatever his policy differences with the GOP conservatives, Rudy is the greatest inspirational leader in recent times. Koch started the NY turnaround, and Rudy completed it. Bloomburg can enjoy the benefits of what they accomplished. I saw Rudy in the days after 9-11. He personified the feelings and unbending spirit of all true Americans. If he’s on Rick Perry’s team then that’s a huge plus.

Rick Perry/Rudy Giuliani equals “The RINO Ticket”, and it would help boost ALL of the truly non-RINO candidates for ‘12 POTUS, IMHO. Also, having Rick Perry in the race damages all of the other RINO candidates in the race.

If you keep Rudy away from the social issues, he can be quite an asset politically. I don’t know if he and Perry are really that close or whether Perry simply found Rudy more presidential than Romney, Huckabee or McCain. Rudy still had that “America’s Mayor” vibe going at the time.

I do think Perry has networked rather well without relying on the Bush Beltway clique. He’s been governor long enough to have made connections in most of the critical states.

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posted on 08/14/2011 12:34:28 AM PDT
by OrangeHoof
(Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)

“As United States Attorney, I investigated the Leon Klinghoffer murder by Yasir Arafat,” he told the Jewish audience, referring to the infamous 1985 slaying of a wheelchair-bound, 69-year-old New York businessman aboard the Achille Lauro, an Italian ship hijacked off the coast of Egypt by Palestinian extremists. “It’s honestly the reason why I knew so much about Arafat,” says Giuliani. “I knew, in detail, the Americans he murdered. I went over their cases.”

On the contrary, Victoria Toensing, the deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department in Washington who filed a criminal complaint in the Lauro investigation, says that no one in Giuliani’s office “was involved at all.” Jay Fischer, the Klinghoffer family attorney who spearheaded a 12-year lawsuit against the PLO, says he “never had any contact” with Giuliani or his office. “It would boggle my mind if anyone in 1985, 1986, 1987, or thereafter conducted an investigation of this case and didn’t call me,” he adds. Fischer says he did have a private dinner with Giuliani in 1992: “It was the first time we talked, and we didn’t even talk about the Klinghoffer case then.”

Victoria Toensing has no reason to lie and has great credentials as a conservative. But this is just the tip of the Rudy iceberg.

Perry has never had to raise money under federal contribution limits  $2,500 for the primary and $2,500 for the general election is all any single donor can give  and would have to change his model of finding a handful of major donors who can write huge checks to one centered around big bundlers who can collect hundreds of smaller checks.

Wow, and we’re supposed to like this guy?

Perry is used to getting huge sums of money from small numbers of people.

Nobody likes him much, but he gets huge sums of money for favors. Selling off the states infrastructure to foreigners, and money for Perry.

Well, this is interesting. It makes me think better of both of them, because these are not the type of people I’d think would be “friends”.

Say what you like about Rudy Giuliani, but I grew up in NYC and watched it deteriorate into a hell hole.

Rudy Giuliani single-handedly brought that city back from the brink of the abyss. While being called Hitler, oh no wait, let’s call him Mussolini, by the NY Times, et al.

You think mud was slung at Bush? It was all a recycle of the mud they threw at Giuliani.

And I don’t know what your beef is with him about 9/11, but all I know is that first night, when there were tens of millions of people in the tri-state area absolutely at the ends of our ropes, he went on TV and bucked us all up.

Even my stinking, lefty, liberal friend (who would cut her throat in Macy’s window before she’d vote for a republican for dog catcher) said “he was great”.

So, yeah, there are some problems with Giuliani, but he’ll always be a hero in my book.

Although Giuliani constantly blames the EPA for misleading him about air quality at Ground Zero, the city had its own test results which outdoor tests showed hazardous levels of asbestos up to seven blocks away, he decided not to make the results public. EPA chief, Bruce Sprague, sent an October 5 letter to the city complaining about “very inconsistent compliance” with respiratory protection. Sprague, who wrote the letter only after unsuccessful conversations with Giuliani aides, likened the indifference in a subsequent court deposition to sticking one’s head “over a barbecue grill for hours” and expecting no consequences. An internal legal memo to the mayor estimated early in the cleanup that there could be 35,000 potential plaintiffs against the city, partly because rescue workers were “provided with faulty or no equipment (i.e. respirators).” Bechtel, the major construction firm retained by the city as its health and safety consultant, urged it to cut the exit-entry points from 20 to two so they could enforce the use of respirators and other precautions, just as was done at the Pentagon, but Giuliani ignored the recommendation.

And thats just part of the problems he has with the real heroes of 9-11.

"We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, "We dont care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there." And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. Thats why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders[;] the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede [education is the future, and yes, we can]."

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posted on 08/14/2011 4:37:15 AM PDT
by cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin)

Giuliani, the former wife-abandoning cross-dressing mayor of New York, is a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, faux-Catholic social liberal. He was a total failure in the 2008 primary performance. He is an aloof, incompetent campaigner who doesn’t like to shake hands and mix with crowds.

Giuliani is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and anti-Second Amendment. Mayor Rooty made NY a sanctuary city for illegals and put pedophiles and sex offenders in top NYC jobs. He carried on a public affair while still married---and announced he would move his wife and kids into the streets so he could live with his mistress ......that's just for starters.

Rudy is persona non grata on FR. Best way to lose posting privileges is to support Rooty.

He’s using the Obama strategies and I find it to be totally disgusting. His supporters are accusing anyone who questions him of being liberal trolls. Refusing to talk to the media and flooding the net with pro Perry messages and attempting to control the message.

Most disgusting in my opinion were his attempts to grab the headlines from events he wasn’t even man enough to be part of.

Some of our Texas FReepers are saying this is all typical Perry. When he does something unpopular he blames the legislature and if its popular its all him.

Just one more Eddie Haskell RINO.

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posted on 08/14/2011 5:32:34 AM PDT
by cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin)

Perrys using the Obama strategies and I find it to be totally disgusting. His supporters are accusing anyone who questions him of being liberal trolls.They refuse to talk to the media, they flood the net with pro Perry messages and attempt to control the message.

You nailed it terrifically. Omao's media massager Anita (gag) Dunn said later that THEY decided what the media would know about Omao.

Most disgusting in my opinion were Perry's attempts to grab the headlines from Iowa events he wasnt even man enough to be part of.

That got him nowhere---he expected to sail to victory, to be carried out of the arena like a hero.

Now he's a big flop. Wonder what he'll do next.

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posted on 08/14/2011 5:43:21 AM PDT
by Liz
( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)

Look, I survived April 2007 so I won't go too far - but RG's governance 1993-2001 NYC was transformative, he punched the leftist media in the mouth every day and never gave them an inch, he said exactly what he was going to do and then he did it.

No comparison with McCain, IMO.

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posted on 08/14/2011 5:46:37 AM PDT
by Jim Noble
(To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)

In Michigan, Rick Snyder has far surpassed my expectations but I would have a hard time supporting him for president. He’s pure business but refuses to talk about social issues. He also has a green streak a mile wide. He also took high speed rail money which is why I write to him once a week asking him to tell Obama “No thank you”.

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posted on 08/14/2011 6:00:09 AM PDT
by cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin)

“Rick Perry/Rudy Giuliani equals The RINO Ticket, and it would help boost ALL of the truly non-RINO candidates for 12 POTUS, IMHO. Also, having Rick Perry in the race damages all of the other RINO candidates in the race.”

Agree. Perry/Giuliani assures us that we’ll have a conservative as third choice in 2012 and enough Republicans will defect to assure that the Dems hold the White House. So goodbye Supreme Court.

For Heaven’s Sake, the least Perry can do is line himself up with a conservative, to give the ticket some degree of balance.

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