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Re: Royce White is done.

That's too bad, I was rooting for him. Seems like a good guy at heart but he's got issues and for all his talk about mental health I don't think he's totally accepted his own problems yet. He might just not have the mental make up to be a pro basketball player. It's not the worst thing in the world, a lot of people don't. Hope everything works out for him.

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Re: Royce White is done.

This could be completely medical and no fault of his. However, it is likely some of both. If so, it is sad to see guys like this (possibly) and David Harrison and others talk about how they screwed up . . . when it's too late.

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"I like our group of people," Ainge told USA Today. "I'm trying to teach them about basketball, and they're trying to teach me about analytics."

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Re: Royce White is done.

It's not uncommon for a company to make adjustments for those with certain physical or mental challenges. In fact it's a kind thing to do to accommodate someone who through no fault of their own has to deal with a disorder. However, if a company makes those accommodations and then the employee doesn't come to work or misses an unreasonable amount of time that company has the right to let that employee go. The same could happen if that employee repeatedly complains about their job or employer after these accommodations have been made. I think one of the biggest issues is that Royce White came to the NBA expecting them to change and make MAJOR exceptions for him and make them the way he wanted them made.

He's going to have a big struggle on his hands no matter what type of career he goes on to have unless he comes to realize that not every type of employment is suitable for a person with his type of disorder. There's no such thing as the perfect job and even if you're doing something you love there is going to be some adversity. Learning how to effectively deal with adversity on the job is an important part of having a successful life. I hope he can learn how to do that while he's still young.

Re: Royce White is done.

Not sure I follow you here. Who in this thread do you think is being hoodwinked?

Some have insinuated that this is just about fear of flying. Nobody knows exactly how bad White's mental issues are, Klosterman's piece on Grantland ( http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...an-royce-white) was very reveailing, starting with the part where he brought some unknown people to sit in with him for the interview, one of which wouldn't even give Klosterman his name. I can't decide whether Royce White has Borderline Personality Disorder or is a sociopath. One thing I'm pretty sure of is the Royce White is trying to manipulate his way into getting a guaranteed contract where he doesn't actually have to be on the team. I think he's made young Jamaal Tinsley his role model in life.

Re: Royce White is done.

I'm pretty sure he's not going to get a guaranteed contract, and if he wants one, this was not the way to do it. There's no manipulation at play here. Once this season is over he will not get another penny from the NBA.

Last edited by Kstat; 10-25-2013 at 11:46 AM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

Re: Royce White is done.

I'm pretty sure he's not going to get a guaranteed contract, and if he wants one, this was not the way to do it. There's no manipulation at play here. Once this season is over he will not get another penny from the NBA.

Never said he was going about it the right way. I feel like once he's exhausted his chances to catch on with a team, he'll try to sue the NBA under the ADA and get paid that way. I think that getting a contract while acting crazy was Plan A. Bringing suit against the League may be Plan B. Or, as inscrutable as he is, he could just have a chemical imbalance and a strong sense of justice and refuses to march to the beat of anyone else's drum. In that case, I think he'll quit the league, and that'll be that, very little harm done.

Re: Royce White is done.

There's no ground to stand on here. The NBA and the players' union have a collective bargaining agreement. He can file a grievance with them, but that won't go anywhere.

He got cut, like every other player that gets cut. The ADA doesn't protect him from being fired from the Sixers. His contract is still being honored.

He's mentally ill. Not hard to see that. He's in no condition to be playing in the NBA, and maybe that will sink in now that he's jobless, and he'll go about getting real help so he can have his career back. If not, so be it.

Last edited by Kstat; 10-25-2013 at 12:25 PM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

Re: Royce White is done.

Good so long and good riddance i hope we never hear this mans name ever again.

#bewell friend

Why so hard on the guy? We all make decisions in life that we feel are best for us that no one else may agree with. We live we learn it's a growing process. Seriously why are we so judgmental towards our fellow man?

I'm not perfect and neither are you.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the esteem of Elohim,
Ephisians 4: 32 And be kind towards one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as Elohim also forgave you in Messiah.

Re: Royce White is done.

Not sure I follow you here. Who in this thread do you think is being hoodwinked?

Anyone naive enough to believe that White is a helpless victim of mental illness, rather than a willfully awful human being who's turned a diagnosis into a crutch to absolve himself of any personal responsibility for his behavior. Whether or not that includes you... well, I don't want to fall into personal attacks, so I'll say no more.

Re: Royce White is done.

FYI, it's convinced that mental illness is a myth and a crutch used by people to get attention and absolve themselves of responsibility.

FYI, KStat is either lying or is once again showing his underdeveloped thinking ability.

At no point have I said that mental illness is a myth or a crutch used by people to get attention and absolve themselves of personal responsibility. My criticism has been directed solely at Royce White and the naive fools who coddle him, thereby helping give White reason to continue his behavior.

If, rather than mindlessly running to his defense, the entire world started holding White accountable for his behavior, I'm willing to bet his "mental illness" would be "miraculously healed" in no time.

Re: Royce White is done.

Extensive travel has been a part of the nba since the begining. I agree with those who think he was using the anxiety gig to his advantage. From the very begining, he had nothing but a littany of complaints about how the rockets were doing nothing for him but I never heard a peep from him about even TRYING to meet them half-way. I think he really believes he could get away with not traveling with the team but still get paid like was. I get nervous flying but if I am looking at an nba contract, I think i'd just suck it up

Re: Royce White is done.

He put far more time and effort into fighting the Rockets than he would have had to simply play for them. This wasn't about him trying to get over on them. The contract was guaranteed for the first 2 years anyway.

Also, you aren't mentally ill, to my knowledge. "Suck it up" is not an option for Royce White. He needs help, but first he needs to admit he can't handle his problem the way he's handling it now.

Last edited by Kstat; 10-25-2013 at 01:49 PM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.