And as for Kariya coming here, I wouldn't mind seeing it happen and the Wings would give him a decent shot at winning his first Cup before he soon retires, would probably peg him for a similar role as what is being guessed for Modano possibly coming here (3rd line/some PP time), but I would think he'd have to command more money and I wouldn't think the Wings would have the Cap space.

Meh... not that he's not impressive, but it just doesn't inspire me much. He's still a decent player with good wheels, I'll give him that. I think at this point it's Modano or just moving ahead with the youth we have.

The most popular choice among the Red Wings as to who would volunteer to play goalie – several Panthers did in their game – was Brendan Smith.

"He's pretty competitive and he seems to be good at everything," Justin Abdelkader said. "He'd volunteer himself."

Babcock was a bit more hesitant about Smith. "Yeah, yeah, just work on getting out of your zone," Babcock said

For guys like PK who is looking to end his career on an upswing, the Wings would be a perfect match. He isnt getting much done in St. Louis but the skills are all there. If he wanted to come and play on the 3rd line with Huds/ Cleary or whatever for the motown discount, I would be 2 thumbs up...and prefer it to Modano.

I wouldn't mind Kariya on the third line but I think I would have to go with Modano. Size being the factor I guess.

He's injured too often and I've had it with him diving all over the ice like a pansy. He's not much better than Crosby and Floppa in that department.

Same thing as the Modano situation. What does he give us that we don't already have?

Can you envision Paul Kariya (a guy that doesn't check) on a checking line? I don't. We're pretty set as far as scoring goes. That won't be what defeats us. We just need a stay at home defenseman who hits, and a grinder to a make us a more well rounded team.

Too many people on LGW don't understand the concept of having a complete team.

Probably because in their video games, they stack all 4 lines with stars, and win the Cup every year. Doesn't work that way in the NHL.

Kariya has never played on the lower two lines and that's totally not his game. Also, he's not good enough to be on our top 6 unless there's injuries. When we're healthy, he'll look out of place playing with Abby or Eaves.

Too many people on LGW don't understand the concept of having a complete team.

Probably because in their video games, they stack all 4 lines with stars, and win the Cup every year. Doesn't work that way in the NHL.

Kariya has never played on the lower two lines and that's totally not his game. Also, he's not good enough to be on our top 6 unless there's injuries. When we're healthy, he'll look out of place playing with Abby or Eaves.

I'm just making what I think is a good point. Just like Modano, he's not a star player anymore and doesn't really address our needs. People are overreacting over this idea because Kariya was once a top star.

I know the OP asked for reasons why not to sign Kariya, but I can't think of a good reason FOR the Red Wings to sign Kariya. He doesn't provide anything this team needs. Our top six is set and he sure as hell isn't cut to play in the bottom six with his diving and complete lack of grinding ability.

Signing Kariya makes no sense when considering what the Red Wings already have in place on their roster.

I'm just making what I think is a good point. Just like Modano, he's not a star player anymore and doesn't really address our needs. People are overreacting over this idea because Kariya was once a top star.

I get what you're saying and for Kariya I would agree 100%. But the potential upside with Modano could be epic if he accepts his role as a third line center and is driven. The guy captained a team to the Stanley Cup. The more I think about it, I'm glad he's waiting to see how his body feels. It shows that's he taking the notion seriously. If he's on the team, he automatically gives a few guys on the first two lines a nice push.

We need one of those guys...who..ya know...defends his teammates..ya know..when the other team starts running around..what's that type of player's name again?...oh every other team in the league has at least 1 in their lineup every night...whatre they called againn...oh yeah......ENFORCERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Ice hockey is a form of disorderly conduct in which the score is kept."

I get what you're saying and for Kariya I would agree 100%. But the potential upside with Modano could be epic if he accepts his role as a third line center and is driven. The guy captained a team to the Stanley Cup. The more I think about it, I'm glad he's waiting to see how his body feels. It shows that's he taking the notion seriously. If he's on the team, he automatically gives a few guys on the first two lines a nice push.

Derian Hatcher was captain when the Stars won the Cup. Modano was only captain for the '03-'04 and '05-'06 seasons. Morrow replaced him before the '06-'07 season.

We need one of those guys...who..ya know...defends his teammates..ya know..when the other team starts running around..what's that type of player's name again?...oh every other team in the league has at least 1 in their lineup every night...whatre they called againn...oh yeah......ENFORCERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that this thread made it all the way through 1 1/2 pages before that same old tired argument came up...