John Titor: The Man With The Machine

1.) John Titor said, “Perhaps it would be better if you just considered me a fraud.” This might be a perfect example of reverse psychology at work, but time and again Titor stated that he didn’t care if anyone believed him. I honestly think that had a major impact on the believability of his story. And,

2.) John Titor shared a lot of information. His “predictions” may have been debunked, his science may have been faulty (maybe), but that doesn’t altogether matter: at the time, he shared far more information, including pictures, than most would-be time travelers.

He also gave quite a bit of detail regarding his time machine, the C204 Gravity Distortion Unit. The specifications of the machine, how it felt to travel through time, and he even shared snippets of the unit’s operating instructions.

What do you say we investigate that a bit?

The Machine

According to John Titor, the ability to time travel is discovered in Geneva, Switzerland at CERN, during (I’m assuming) experiments involving the Large Hadron Collider. I can assume that because he also said:

“The source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that were created, captured and cleaned at a much larger and ‘circular’ facility…The breakthrough that will allow for this technology will occur within a year or so when CERN brings their larger facility online.” – January 31, 2001

After the technology was discovered, General Electric then began producing the displacement units. Titor outlined the basic specifications of the units that allow time travel:

[box type=”info”]Before going any further, you might be interested in what John Titor had to say about the development of time travel in general, and how that process evolved.

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The Variable Gravity Lock System

“…this problem is actually the most difficult part of time travel. Although some of your assumptions about matter displacement are a bit off, the problem is real. Inside the displacement unit are a series of very sensitive clocks and gravity sensors. This system is called the VGL (variable gravity lock).”

The most important piece of Titor’s time machine was the VGL, or Variable Gravity Lock system. This was the system that kept the machine (and its passenger) fixed in place in its environment, so it wouldn’t end up floating out in empty space, or melding with any other objects, when it arrived in another time.

“Basically, the unit takes a reading of the local gravity and samples it during the ‘trip’ in pulses. If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts down and drops out to where ever you may be.” – November 4, 2000

Later, Titor elaborated:

“…before the unit “leaves” a worldline, it takes a base reading of the local gravity and adjusts the Tipler sinusoid to ‘lock’ into that position. Although the temporal physics of this statement are wrong, in effect, it holds you to the ‘Earth’. During travel, it periodically checks to see that the field has not varied. If it does, it stops and reverses course or drops out at that point. Buildings and other terrain features are avoided in the same way.” – December 10, 2000

It didn’t take much to trip the VGL, either: according to Titor, simply placing a desk where the time machine was expected to arrive would trigger the VGL and prevent it from arriving. Likewise, the unit could not be used safely while in motion:

“The unit must be stationary during operation due to the sensitivity of the gravity sensors. Any motion with an acceleration component would throw the gravity measurement from the singularities off.” – March 3, 2001

Titor’s C204 unit also included a set of three computer systems and four cesium clocks.

The computer systems would “work with” the VGL to plot the machine’s course, and could “record” the trip to make the traveler’s return to his or her origin worldline as easy as possible. According to Titor, “the really interesting technology is in the computer.” Of course, he never got much more specific than that.

“The computer system is connected to the unit through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers linked together that take the same signals from the gravity senors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol that checks the integrity of the data and trips the VGL system.”

The four cesium clocks calculated seconds as their basic units of measurement, and were used to calculate the course of the journey itself and the amount of worldline divergence:

“…in a sense you do *dial in* a date and the computer system controls the distortion field. At maximum power, the unit I have is capable of traveling about 10 years an hour.” – January 31, 2001

The Singularities

In regards to the microsingularities, Titor said the following:

“…there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways. Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities. Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities affects and alters the gravity sinusoid.” – January 15, 2001

These singularities were housed in “an enclosed magnetic field.”

Ironically, the method of time travel itself, involving the singularities, wasn’t the real issue with constructing the machine. Instead, it was everything else:

“Miniaturizing the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays and creating a computer system dependable enough to calculate the changes required to the field were the main challenges.” – January 31, 2001

Finally, the unit also had two “security systems” in place:

“One, it has a code that must be entered correctly. Second, and probably more effective now, the unit cannot be used by anyone who can’t add and substract.” – November 15, 2000

Worldline Divergence

John Titor’s time machine was only accurate “to about 60 years.” He couldn’t travel much farther than that, because the worldline divergence experienced in doing so would render his destination practically unrecognizable. In Titor’s words, “the longer the unit is on past a safe divergence confidence, the ‘stranger’ the worldline becomes.”

“The C204 begins to ‘break away’ at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the worldline divergence increases. In other words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than average chance I would end up on a worldline where he was never born.” – November 4, 2000

This divergence confidence was calculated to be about 1-2%, and newer versions of the time machine were being perfected in the future to make this more accurate:

“I would equate the ‘future’ GE distortion units to their current jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make it better. The C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the worldline divergence confidence much higher.” – November 7, 2000

According to Titor, you could “imagine your path through time [as] through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the worldline.” See the image above for a simple illustration of this effect.

The VGL, computer systems, and clocks worked together to measure the divergence:

“The measurement for worldline divergence is an observation variable isolated to the distortion unit. An effective analogy would be a ‘gravity radar”. The unit’s sensors take a ‘snapshot’ of the local gravity around the unit before a flight. During travel, this baseline is periodically checked to make sure there are no major changes in the environment that would cause a catastrophic mass failure (brick wall appearing from nowhere). The percentage of VGL divergence from one worldline to another is a calculated guess by the three computers that control the unit based on its starting point. It is useless in describing characteristics of individual worldlines.” – January 10, 2001

The Journey

“On my worldline: (A) in 2036, I was given a mission in 1975. I turn my machine on and jump to another worldline (B) in 1975 with about a 2% divergence from (A).

From the very point I turn my machine off on (B), I create a new worldline just because I’m there. This line can be described as (C) and started when I got to (B).

I am now doing my mission on line (C) in 1975 when I discover a very good reason to go forward on (C) and see what happened. I turn my machine on and go forward on (C) to the year 2000.

When I turn it off, I start another line called (D). So from my perspective, here we are on line (D) in the year 2000. In order to go home to line (A) I must turn my machine on and go back on (D) until I reach (C) which in turn would take me back to (B) which in turn takes me to a point before I arrived on (B) then I go forward from the point I arrived on (B) back to (A).”

On his initial trip, John Titor’s time machine was placed inside a 1967 Chevrolet. On part of his return journey, he used a 1987 4WD, because “the vehicle needs a strong suspension system to handle the weight of the distortion unit,” and the vehicles needed to match their respective time periods. I’m not sure what vehicle Titor chose for the final stretch of his trip.

Titor described the journey through time as dark, like “driving under a rainbow,” followed by “driving under a tunnel and being in total black.” During the journey, “the car is off and the brake is on.” The gravity field “overtakes you very quickly,” generating a steady G force, and you “feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator.”

“The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat.” – November 4, 2000

The machine gives off quite a bit of heat, and the traveler must carry extra oxygen if the trip is likely to be a long one. You hear “a slight hum as the unit operates,” and electrical crackling from static electricity. “Everything is black,” he said.

“When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It appears you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I’m usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes, it does appear that the world fades in from black.” – November 4, 2000

Observers

To the observers watching Titor and his machine leave in 2036, he explained the appearance of gravity distortion:

“Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation.” – November 4, 2000

Later, he said:

“…the time machine does not move as it goes from one worldline to another and then returns. The people watching on the original worldline would wave good-bye and watch as the machine is turned on. There would be a static discharge and the air would appear to ‘ripple’ as if it were getting denser. Then, it would stop and the machine will have appeared to have disappeared. If the machine doesn’t move its position from worldline to worldline, the observer would not see it disappear at all.” – November 20, 2000

A “large chunk of ground” would also be missing from the area surrounding the machine.

“I wouldn’t quite say it ‘scoops’ up the ground cleanly. It sort of vibrates it loose and takes it along for the ride.” – November 22, 2000

As it left, the machine would also be “quite dangerous to get too close” to, because it vents radiation and “has a very strong localized gravity field.”

According to Titor, “from their perspective, I will only have been gone for a split second.”

Back to the Future

When asked if Titor could take anyone else with him back to the future, he simply stated that he didn’t think anyone here would like 2036 very much.

He did, however, imply that his machine could support “about three people and equipment,” though he’d have to offload a lot of archival material to fit them in (“There are mass limits to what can be taken back,” he said). The journey to the future, itself? He explained it like this:

“For all of you interested in coming back with me to 2036, perhaps we should discuss the trip. Please be aware, the displacement unit moves through time, not space.

First, we will be driving the current vehicle (Chevy truck) with the displacement unit in it to Tampa Florida. From there, we will go back to my arrival date on this worldline. Then we will have to drive to Minnesota, sell the current vehicle and get another one that would have been around in 1975.

We will then move the displacement unit (500 lbs or so) into the new vehicle and go back to 1975. Once in 1975, we’ll drive back to Tampa and make the final hop to 2036. If you’d like to stay in 1975, you’re welcome to do that.

It can also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you’ll be subjected to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. You’ll also need some sort of a re-breather system or oxygen supply.”

Not exactly the romantic time travel adventure we’re all used to seeing in books and movies.

The Manual

Finally, here are a few images of the time machine’s operating instructions, which John Titor shared during his time here:

“There is a cut-a-way drawing of the entire unit that I will probably post before I leave.”

Of course, the instructions were only useful to a point, and if something went wrong with the machine, well…

“There’s a running inside joke about the technical issues. If the unit has a serious problem it’s not as if anyone can use those drawings to take the electron manifold off the singularity housing with a flat head screwdriver.” – November 25, 2000

Titor is so elaborate, it’s almost believable. All that mumbo-jumbo about the machine itself; I think he should work for the manual-writing department of GE. It would have been more useful if he had some old coins or something from 2025. Or if he had predictions on key world events like who’s going to become president in 2016? I wonder where he is now?

Titor is 3 university students with training in physics and computer science.

Time travel would be tightly regulated and not advertised. Discussing it could alter the current world-line. There is no need to declare himself as a time traveler. Furthermore, since he did, why not take it a step further by giving more adequate proof. Better pictures, futuristic concepts of practical electronics –ipad, etc. Given the former stuff that would clearly not be an issue for him.

Amen to that. The information would be so highly classified that only the most responsible would be trusted with it. Not some loose lipped blabbermouth like this.

Besides, if you want to prove to me you are from the future then you don’t need to show me your time machine. Simply predict several impossible events to predict with 100% accuracy and clarity and I’ll believe you.

If this guy really did travel to the past and was bumping around in the year 2000, why the hell didn’t he say something about the 9/11 attacks? He doesn’t seem to care about sharing events of the future with us, so why not maybe issue a little warning about an event that the entire world knows about and maybe give some pointers? And why would he choose a point in time a year before the attack to arrive in? 100% BS.

If true, maybe HE caused the 911 attacks by visiting 2000 and by not sticking to going straight to 1975 and coming back like his stated mission…just maybe, he saved thousands from a nuclear exchange BUT caused thousands to die in a non-nuclear fashion. You have to include all of those that have died in battle as well since the 911 attacks led to 2nd and 3rd order effects.Just a thought…

it is fake story but Everything is possible even timemachine also possible to create if we walk to1 km distanse with 1kmph speed we take 1 hour if we walk with 1kmpsecond it takes 1 second and if we walk with 1kmps*1million then we go to futures seconds and days

That doesn’t make sense. If the unit moves through time, not space, then traveling through time would place his vehicle in the void of space. Earth moves around the sun, the sun moves around the center of the galaxy and the galaxies are moving away from one another.

According to Titor (who I don’t actually believe is a time traveler but it’s an interesting story so hey), “…before the unit “leaves” a worldline, it takes a base reading of the local gravity and adjusts the Tipler sinusoid to ‘lock’ into that position. Although the temporal physics of this statement are wrong, in effect, it holds you to the ‘Earth’.”

That makes no sense at all. How would reading the local gravity “lock” you into the same position relative to earth at a different point in time? You are talking about our solar system shifting is position 675,000 kilometers for every hour you travel back in time, and that doesn’t even account for galactic movement.

not that i think this is real but i thought i should tell you that we already have equipment that can measure the force due to gravity. you dont measure “gravity” you measure the acceleration due to gravity which is around 9.81 m/s^2. any variations in the mass between you and the center of the earth will result in a minute difference in the acceleration you can observe on the surface. they measure this currently using 2 identical satellites flying at the same height above the earth, when one enters a zone of different gravity the speed will change while the other satellite will remain the same and this leads to a measureable albeit small difference.

titor wasnt using 2 satellites, and since it was probably fake i wont try to explain what he was claiming was his way to measure it. but i just thought id let you know that the area of space that the earth is in has almost no change on the acceleration due to gravity or else things would fall at different rates depending on what time of year it is and what area of the galaxy we are in. although i would assume that if titor had a device that could measure the change in gravity due to a brick wall it would also be sensitive enough to pick up changes due to the moon and other celestial objects, so it still doesnt make much sense. actually it kind of makes sense on second thought if you only took in acceleration readings that were static and filtered out all the variable noise. if you were able to measure gravitational force in all directions then you would be able to see that some forces would be constant representing objects on earths surface and your elevation while others would be variable aka the moon rotating around the earth. i would assume that is one of the functions his 3 computers were there to perform. doing all that would allow you to remain on the ground as long as the elevation remained the same. if it changed then youd be screwed because it locks you in to where you came from.

No it is like this. Gravity is one of the four main factors of our univers as well as electro magnetism and weak and strong nuclear forces. The gravity and EM are basically the codes in video games to keep us from leaving certain barriers. This basically distorts space time(causing a bubble where your in it) the gravity pushes you either left or right on your time line based on the singularity you use. See the spinning magnetic field is actually to protect you from EMF and some nuclear forces so to speak. Then as that one spins it distorts time, a secondary one covers that and causes gravity to be repelled(anti gravity) but the mono poles must be facing W- E. Think about time travel on a 1d line…. Point A to B Birth to death.

Now with that said If I didnt lose you guys based on W or E you go forward or backwards. I cant believe people dont think outside the box more. Its basically creating a bubble around you to stop the damaging effects of time travel.
once that is there a second one causes you to go outside of this dimension like a contained black hole(CERN) When injected with electrons both of them grow in size. so you are sitting in a black hole where you cant be touched by anything or interact with anything. The reason its a car too is because it creates almost a F cage effect(UFOS) So if he were to touch the outside of the car at all or even have a window down he would of died. The clocks are the only things that dont seem to be correct. Im not a scientist but I would use something that has a longer half life.

I’ve already figured out time travel. There is a very major slight error in your calculations. Gravity force mass has no effect on time traveling backwards. Gravity force mass has only the ability to travel forward in time. The problem is that it mashed you into bits. You were only allowed to time travel by the means of the spiritual parallel dimension. In a way to you are living a lie. I’ve already met with other time travelers. Most descend into madness. Or become victims of the madness of the spiritually blind. You need to remove every small bit of sin and pride in your nature to make it home. Look at Christianity there are plenty of proofs of time travel abilities dug into the marrow of it.

Think about our solar system from the normal view we see. If you “leave” the Earth in March, and try to come back in September, the Earth will be on the opposite side of the Sun.
Now think about our solar system from a further away view, so that you can see the travel of the Sun relative to your position. Even if you only time travel one year, March 3rd 2011 to March 3rd 2010 for example, the Earth will still not be in the same place in space that it was any other year.
Time travel, in my opinion, leaves a lot of people cold and weightless, if it’s possible at all.

I suppose its a question of faith as to weather Titor exists/existed. Sometimes absolute proof can’t be provided. Yes it’s an excellent story and perhaps it will be the seed that eventually brings about such technologies. But think of this….if you owned or had access to such technologies would you be able to share such things en mass. Governments lm certain would guard against such revelations. I instinctively feel there is some truth at large concerning the use of “time machines”. Science is in a constant state of change. Things that were once held in the realms of science fiction are now science fact. Also the scientific community are constantly at odds with one another over a variety of cosmic theories. If we can teleport particles today what of tomorrow. Interesting stuff guys.

Unless…. the government was told that in order for this to happen….he (t-man) had to …. create a hmmm inside the scientific community to get us to begin to think… outside current scientific norms…to think outside the box… what if?….and to eventually materialize the outside the box thinking into fact.
And to produce the very thing….we are all now wondering in your present when you wrote your post to this story) *(which is my past) to my present…my present is now 2019 when I posted to this story…. as a response…to this past written article….that is now available in the future….

The earth moving would not be a problem if you travel to the same date you left just in another year. Like 7/21/2036 to 7/21/1975.
My question is why would you have to drive to another state to get another car.
Why not just buy another car in the state you are in?

This is very interesting and if he is clearly a physics and computer science technician/student/engineer..
People who are fascinated with time travel are only looking at it scientifically. They are only looking at the space/time realm, energy in the universe, all of this science, etc. The problem with time travel is, if it is possible, life would need to be recorded on some form of medium. Every millisecond of every day and every single event or movement would have to be saved and it cannot be a digital format. There is no way to record anything physical such as matter on a memory drive or anything. So this would mean if time travel itself was possible (in terms of reversing energy or time frequency) it would only be half of the equation. The other half would be bringing back all physical matter with it. You would have to go back to a “recorded” time where life was taking place as it once did. This is what makes time travel impossible. The only time travelling possible would be going into the future and that would only be possible if the traveler was frozen in his time during his travel. I believe Einstein said if someone were to travel at the speed of light, his time would remain but everything outside would speed up…so traveling light speed for 1 hour would be like traveling 1 year into the future.
Now as far as those manuals and drawings, I believe that was a project of some sort back in 2000 for a school. Maybe the students were on assignment to try and invent something in that department?
What John Titor did was probably alter the course of the future in 2000. By talking about what the future looks like, he could have caused the world to change directions. If someone wants to alter the course of the future all they need to do is claim they are from the future and that there will be something that we would not want to see. To me this would be the only form of time travel..altering the future..

OMG… the device is a Korean war era Nucliometer used for Uranium Prospecting. Proably found it in his dad’s attic or bought it on eBay or at a electronic’s surplus store. Lame lame lame….

This Titor guy is complete BS. There are no micro-singularities, EVER, past, now or future. What amateur! Leave this stuff to the real men, and women that do this work.
Please, I am not allowed to tell you how and why I know this.

Fact is — People really do not understand time travel. Look it’s my job. That all I will say.
There is no time paradox, the “kill your grandfather” scenario cannot happen if you understand the mosts basic princple proven by so many physists… Time is all at once yet it’s eslastic and its the only fundlement quanum physics thing that is. Because it’s all at once, and does not exist in a sequence like you think it does. You are the sequences. The things you look at have all their complete lifespan of their states of matter with them all the time. You process it in a sequence, the things you look at are “just IS”. Even heat, location, speed are all just states of matter and it’s all at once and the object (person, car, dog, atom), carry it with them anywhere you find them.

You can see back in time, or forward, you just need device that tunes to the harmonic of that object’s time and the light that is admitted will be the image from the respective time. The trick is most interesting object move around you will have to chase it, or critter cam it… LOL!

I won’t tell you why, but you MUST live observe, or the wave forms will not collapse into particles. And you cannot see waves, only particals. And a standalone camera cannot force the collapse, it won’t show you something you can understand. It will if you are observing through the camera live from anywhere.

I know it’s hard to believe, but it’s true. Look it up here… https://youtu.be/nRSBaq3vAeY

Bro talk to me tell me what to do and how to make it! Please!!! I know time travel is possible past present n future all exist at the same time the only real difference is you and where your at is always the constant (present) so what are brains tell us to perceive would be the future is actually a different place n to go there would put us in the present. All i need to know someone out there contact me. I will volunteer to travel through and to anywhere. To meet other alien species hostile or what have you. I am willing to be trained and i will fight i will succeed and help humanity get one step closer to living longer or cures for diseases or co-existing with all shapes n forms of life to reach a relatively peaceful existence. There is nothing for me here i lost my kids havent seen them in 6 years my mother died january 2nd 2019 and father in 2010 and grandma who practically raised me in 2009 and addiction traveled through my family like a brushfire. I have a wife that wants a divorce so please please please. All i ever wanted to do was get married spend my life with a woman and have and to be the best father i could be but thats all over now. I am. 37 years old i have plenty of life left and im extremely strong mentally and physically beyond the realms of normal and im willing to lay down my life for the betterment of our species and other species i am a hell of a lot smarter than most and can see outside the box. I know that when thought about enough are brains make it happen and manifests what we think we want to do as long as we dwell on it enough it will manifest. We are already organic lifeforms created outta a petry dish given the gift of language by our so called ancients. Please contact me at ozpaintserv@protonmail.com or by phone www.216860fiftytwofourtyfive.com you may have to dial a o n e first…

it was asked “why does the time traveler need to drive to different states and use different vehicles?” because the earth where the vehicle and time traveler is locked into needs to be in specific places that are not changed between the times that are jumped, aka portals ideal for time travel. there are only so many of these locations, and obviously the same locations cannot be used for more than a single jump.

Think two tubes with a connection in the middle, needed is dark matter in one of the tube and light matter in the other tube, the connecting part need a no air bay section on each side and into the middle connect section as no air is required as the two meet, and when you connect them let them interact for a moment and then let in a bit of air and let it out through a tube……How do traveling in the speed of light sound to you??……you just got the first few steeps to make it happen —–yes it uses creation of small black holes so used by care…..I’m not a science guy neither am I anything special but hey this is theory to you and may be of use to someone who are used to science who can make this into a reality as me myself would never like the peoples light on me, but hey if you make it happen aknowledge me by a Z as the creator of the knowlede for fun……Enjoy your discovery and have a very nice day.
(There will be no reply from me if questions arise)