The UKSK launcher is an 8 tube system able to use Kalibr, Onyx/yakhont/brahmos, and the Klub family of land attack, anti ship subsonic and high supersonic, and supersonic anti sub torpedo delivering rocket.

The refit for the Oscars means the Granit launchers are already fitted and need liners or need to be removed and new dedicated launchers loaded in the space available.

The UKSK launcher is a drop in system so 4 launchers = 32 missiles in any combination.

A custom designed launcher to be put in place of an old Granit launcher may be custom designed to fit and may have different load parameters.

My understanding was that there were torpedoes and missiles that could be fired through the 650mm tubes... there was a rumour that the torpedoes were no longer being made, though I would like to see an official statement and source to verify that.

I don't remember anyone ever saying they were not going to keep making the larger missiles any more...

It is my understanding that the new Kh-101/102 are larger than the old Kh-55 air launched cruise missiles, so it would make sense that there could be a new 5,500km range upgrade of Kalibr, which has a range of 2,600km... about the same as the old Kh-55...

Not that the extra distance is critical but it would likely include a bigger payload and likely also smarter electronics, with perhaps things like more waypoints and more efficient engines etc etc.

A 65cm tube would allow a weapon with rather more internal space... it would make it easier for divers to use it to get in and out of the submarine, and it would also allow larger drones to be potentially launched from the vessel or recovered...

It has 10 x 533mm tubes and can take on board a total of 30 torpedoes.

On most missions it will carry a mix of torpedoes and various missiles of the Klub-S family in the torpedo compartments.And yes, if necessary, it will also launch KALIBR missiles from the torpedo tubes.

So, in theory it can take 32 missiles (Onyx, Kalibr etc.) in the UKSK vertical launchers and 30 missiles in the torpedo room. But that is not a normal load for this class of submarine for the missions it will be tasked to fulfill.

Kazan is functional just undergoing testing, it's very very hush and classified due to the nature of the submarine.

You will not hear about it in normal means until they are ready to say it's officially been given to the fleet or close to that time

Thanks, been curious about this

If you want a nice read about subs here you go but it's about kilo class. They also say one Yasen was involved in spying mission but it's unlikly they send a ship being tested on real mission. The crew is srill probably from the shipyard with engineers to test everything. They are not trained to "fight" other subs and ships.

Kazan is functional just undergoing testing, it's very very hush and classified due to the nature of the submarine.

You will not hear about it in normal means until they are ready to say it's officially been given to the fleet or close to that time

Thanks, been curious about this

If you want a nice read about subs here you go but it's about kilo class. They also say one Yasen was involved in spying mission but it's unlikly they send a ship being tested on real mission. The crew is srill probably from the shipyard with engineers to test everything. They are not trained to "fight" other subs and ships.

It has 10 x 533mm tubes and can take on board a total of 30 torpedoes.

On most missions it will carry a mix of torpedoes and various missiles of the Klub-S family in the torpedo compartments.And yes, if necessary, it will also launch KALIBR missiles from the torpedo tubes.

So, in theory it can take 32 missiles (Onyx, Kalibr etc.) in the UKSK vertical launchers and 30 missiles in the torpedo room. But that is not a normal load for this class of submarine for the missions it will be tasked to fulfill.

Also the 650mm torpedo The Type 65 is a torpedo manufactured in the Soviet Union/Russia. It was developed for use against US Navy aircraft carrier battle groups, as well as large merchant targets such as supertankers and advanced enemy submarines. It is now typically fitted to newer Russian vessels, though often the 650 mm torpedo bay is fitted with a 533 mm converter to enable firing of SS-N-15 missiles or Type 53 torpedoes.

No worries. It's all Russian maskirovka tactics. They are slowly building 10 submarines at the same time to be flexible. If confrontation with the west seems more likely, they can speed up the production and have 10 new operational Yasens in 2-3 years. If international relations become more friendly, they will continue to make one submarine every few years and nobody can accuse Russia of arms race and spending too much on military.

It's cheaper and more flexible than American way of making one sub at the time.

PapaDragon wrote:Kazan is Yasen-M, basically whole thing is redesigned into new class so I would give them a pass on this one. First one is always pain in the ass.

But as for those other tiny ships, no excuses.

If I'm not wrong they have 6 Yesen M laid down with Kazan already finished. The next two will be lunched in less than 1 year (programmed for 2019) and it took them 5 years to build them while Kazan needed 8 years. The last ones will probably need 3 or 4 years.

The bad part of Yasen concerning its building is that they are much more automatized than any previous and other subs including US ones so they need much more tests and you have to test the equipement for each one of them, you can't just test the first one and say its ok for all of them.