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Re: Where is JJ Hoover?

“When are we supposed to use those guys when our pitchers are going seven innings?” asked manager Dusty Baker. “Everybody has a designated job and our starters are going seven innings in all our games.

“Nevertheless, it is very important that Hoover, LeCure and Simon stay sharp,” said Baker. “It’s a hard thing for the front end of the bullpen to work hard to stay sharp. What you have to determine is how not to overwork and leave it all in the bullpen or when do you underwork and are not sharp in the game.

“Sometimes you realize you might have to work a little harder in the bullpen because sometimes you can decondition by just sitting out there,” Baker added. “And it doesn’t take long. The issue is — what are they supposed to do? How much is too much and how little is too little. So most of them run every day and then do a lot of work after games.”

Re: Where is JJ Hoover?

Hoover has allowed four earned runs on five hits in his last two outings over 2.2 innings. His GO/AO is .45. He is a fly ball waiting to leave GABP.

Dusty hasn't ever had a problem running out guys who have given up runs in their recent outings by the bucketful before.

"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

Re: Where is JJ Hoover?

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Said that on May 26th. Hoover has pitched three times since then.

Yes it seems he has a job for Hoover and that's that. I thought there was a quote from Dusty where he said that Hoover was off to a good spot but hadn't proved anything yet but I could not find it. It was a few weeks ago, IIRC.

Re: Where is JJ Hoover?

Does anybody feel like Dusty leaves the starters in too long? We have a lot of 6 inning pitchers and imo Dusty leaver them out there until they run into trouble --it's like he feels he owes it to the starter to let him get into trouble before he makes the switch. This writer would like to see him pull a guy before something goes awry. Bill James used to have a stat called quick hooks and the inverse of such --it just seems like Dusty has a lot of beliefs that are set in stone whether they make sense or not. Pull a guy before things go to pot-- you're allowed to do that. I will take my changces with the bullpen.

Davey Johnson managed here for 2.5 years and he was the master at getting a guy out of there before the trouble hit.

I have no stats to back up my claim -it could well be that i am wrong --i'd like to be is the evidence that he sticks with the starters too long?

Re: Where is JJ Hoover?

There is nothing wrong with 6 inning pitchers in todays game when you have a full bullpen that you can call on. Keep the starters fresher for the long season, keep the "extra" relievers like Simon, Hoover and LeCure sharper, too. Some of these 7 inning stints by the starters have proven to be an been an inning too long.

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