Kid looks like he has a non-stop motor and some serious potential, but these are highlight tapes, they're meant to make everyone look like a superstar. Show me some full game film of him and then I can judge him fairly

I've seen a couple UCLA games this year. Barr looks big and athletic and seems to have a knack for getting to the football. He's only played linebacker since the spring so it'll be scary to see how good he can be when he gets some experience under his belt.

Kid looks like he has a non-stop motor and some serious potential, but these are highlight tapes, they're meant to make everyone look like a superstar. Show me some full game film of him and then I can judge him fairly

I know they're just highlight plays but I'm not going to act like I wasn't impressed. His athleticism really jumps out at you.

Coming out of HS he was a tremendous athlete, FSU recruited him at the H-Back position played jointly by Lonnie Pryor and Nick O'Leary. IIRC most other schools saw him more of a TE and H-Back as well. Not surprised to see him as a legit NFL prospect right now.

Coming out of HS he was a tremendous athlete, FSU recruited him at the H-Back position played jointly by Lonnie Pryor and Nick O'Leary. IIRC most other schools saw him more of a TE and H-Back as well. Not surprised to see him as a legit NFL prospect right now.

Under the old UCLA staff wasn't be a FB?

Yeah, but he wanted to play on offense. Some schools wanted him at LB/DE. Pete Carroll wanted him at LB, and I think ND did too.

Literally anyone can look good on highlights, because well as you said, they are simply the highlights.

Yeah, but guys like this, their highlights can really show a LOT. Pass rushing has a lot to do with seeing how good the burst off the edge is, how his speed is and how his motor is. His handwork is actually great for someone who's just started to play LB. His burst is outstanding, with really good closing speed, and he makes a lot of plays just do to hustle down field, or in the backfield either way. He'll have to add bulk, and continue to develop, as well as blow up the combine (as he seems like he should), he very well could play his way into 1st round contention.

He's one of those guys who's upside is what he's going to be drafted for, and you can evaluate his upside on these videos.

Yeah, but guys like this, their highlights can really show a LOT. Pass rushing has a lot to do with seeing how good the burst off the edge is, how his speed is and how his motor is. His handwork is actually great for someone who's just started to play LB. His burst is outstanding, with really good closing speed, and he makes a lot of plays just do to hustle down field, or in the backfield either way. He'll have to add bulk, and continue to develop, as well as blow up the combine (as he seems like he should), he very well could play his way into 1st round contention.
He's one of those guys who's upside is what he's going to be drafted for, and you can evaluate his upside on these videos.

No player can ever be evaluated just on his highlights. They don't show us how many plays he takes off, how he reacts when the ball goes to the other side of the field, or how he is contained when he doesn't make plays. Logic like this is why you generally see the same teams drafting near the top of the draft every single year.

Mm, Vernon Gholston had a rep for taking plays off at Ohio State. Definitely not a high motor guy. Played hard when he felt like it.
Gholston had 14 sacks his junior year at OSU, but he should have had 25.

No player can ever be evaluated just on his highlights. They don't show us how many plays he takes off, how he reacts when the ball goes to the other side of the field, or how he is contained when he doesn't make plays. Logic like this is why you generally see the same teams drafting near the top of the draft every single year.

Uhhhhh.....where did you hear any of that in my post. Did i every say he will only be evaluated off highlights? HELL NO.

I just said his highlight tapes can tell us a lot because he's a very upside dominant player, rather than a finished product right now, and his bigtime upside will be what get him drafted, and those flashes show us what his upside is. You dont see how low his downside is in the videos, which will also go a long way in determining where he gets drafted. Those two together, plus seeing exactly what kind of refinement he needs will completely determine his draft stock IMO.

Comparing him to Von Miller is assinine IMO, just like people comparing Von to Lawrence Taylor.

I'll be honest, I don't see anybody coming along that will match Von's quickness(not just speed, but quickness) off the snap to get by the blocker and to the QB/RB. Then come around and completely power rush his way, pancake the blocker, and get the QB/RB. He has completely surpassed what I thought he was going to be.

This is exactly what I thought watching that cut up vs Oregon St. He's basically playing the position Irvin is now in Seattle lining up wide and rushing the majority of the time. If he can develop something to go along with the speed rush it will go a long way to improving his draft stock. While he can watch how much success Bruce Irvin has and see if he wants to come in with a limited role early and develop in the NFL if he comes out as a JR.