I would hope that now the Schindlers will let this whole thing die its own natural death. I don't condone their theatrics, though, as a father, I can certainly empathise with them. But IMHO, something reeks about hubby. Despite the consistency of the courts' findings through this journey, I still don't buy his story. <br><br>On the one hand, you have desparate parents in denial who have abused the media. On the other, you have a real schmuck who I believe is hiding something.<br><br>Bleh. Make it all go away now... <br><br>

But don't you think, with today's bloodthirsty media, that if this guy had some dirt in his past it would have surfaced by now?<br><br>About the only off-kilter thing I've read about this whole mess is the fact that she had some broken bones when she was first brought into the hospital all those years ago. Apparently police dropped the ball and it was never investigated further, but the explanation very well could have been a physical fall caused by the heart attack.<br><br>I'm sure only Terry and her husband know the real truth...<br><br><br>[color:red]5.19.05 - The 'Jedi Slaughter' tour begins!</font color=red>

Well it's not the first time he's ordered the parents from her room. With all the court cases that have been happening I would surmise that there is a lot of bad blood between Michael and the Schindler family. I think he's already said that he doesn't want to be in the same room as them.<br><br>But conspiracy theorists will paint whatever picture of either side they choose. Fact is we don't know if he did it out of malice or just wanted to be with her without their sniping. The Schindlers choose to believe that it's due to malice. And the rest of us have no PROOF of either opinion.<br><br>

_________________________I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.

that's quite a bit of speculation from a guy who is so very removed from the intricacies of this case. the hounds have been out to make him the villain and they've played their cards well in the media. in fact, i saw a previous nurse of terri's on CNN being interviewed a few weeks ago. she made michael out to be the devil and there was no counter arguments presented. well, i found out yesterday that the parents never once tried to use her testimony in court (shame on CNN). it's easy to lie in the media to try and sway public opinion (and, it works), but not so easy to lie in court. the parents had opportunity after opportunity to use her, but never tried once. but, she makes for a great story and helps to vilify the husband. i just don't know enough.<br><br>in a related note:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>A friend who phoned Michael Schiavo soon after news broke of his wife's death said he couldn't talk. "He (Michael) couldn't speak, he was crying," Russ Hyden said.<p><hr></blockquote><p>man, 15 years with no finality. must have hit him hard. <br><br>my opinion is that i don't think badly about the parents or the husband. i don't know enough beyond the fact that they all lost a loved one and the world tried to intervene. such a shame.<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

We're talking about media, and people's opinions and how they don't have the facts, yet you're talking about the husband like he's an angel. <br><br>Am I the only one who remembers that after receiving the insurance settlement ($1 million +) and promising to use the money to help her, he hasn't spent a dime for her and ran off with another woman and has kids with her – and refused to divorce his wife after all these years??? Cmon, tell me I'm not the only one who remembers that.<br><br>I'm not saying his parents are taking the high road either, but lets not make this guy out to be something he isn't.<br><br>The only facts that we all know is that this should have not happened, and it most certainly shouldn't have been happening for this long.<br><br>

All it means is that everyone needs to pay a visit to a lawyer so your explicit wishes are known.<br><br>I don't know about where you live but in Michigan a "living will" is not a binding document. It's almost meaningless. The courts can use it as a guide but are legally allowed to ignore it also.<br>In Michigan you need a health care power of attorney document and one more that I can't think of off the top of my head inorder to have your explict wishes followed.<br><br>

Agreed. And there's already a LOT of supposition in this thread about both sides of the case. It's really pretty disgusting how some are so quick to choose a side based on some small "fact" they claim to know.<br><br><br>

Of course, he's not an angel. But looking at the only "facts" we have available, he's done a lot more to look out for her interests than the parents, in my very humble opinion. He tried every sort of therapy possible for several years and only gave up when he realized that, not only had she not improved, she had gotten worse and that further therapy would make no difference. At that point, he wanted to honor her wishes and let her pass on into the next world instead of forcing her to endure whatever living hell she's been in for the past 10 years. Had he divorced her and allowed her parents to take over, her wishes would not have been honored. Doesn't sound like the actions of an abusive, uncaring husband. <br><br>And it's awfully easy to criticise someone for going on with their life and building a new family when we haven't been put to the same test. Many widows and widowers who have had a spouse die from a terminal disease remarry very soon after the death because, for them, the've already mourned the loss and are ready to move on much more quickly than someone's whose spouse dies unexpectedly. I suspect this is the same situation.<br><br>

If what I read about the $1mil payout is true, then the lawyers took about $650K, the hospice at that time got some, and Michael got about $125....there's also claim that the parents demanded half of the payout, and it got "nasty" at that point.<br><br>Yet you assume that it is completely outside the realm of possibility that Michael wanted her to live, he wanted her back and that he sought the insurance payout to help him in that cause. That maybe the doctors came to him and sat him down and said "Hey look Mike, it's been 5 years now, she's not improved and in our opinion we don't believe she ever will"....To which he replied "Well if that's the case, she did tell me that she didn't want to be kept alive in this situation".<br><br>That as any person going through such a traumatic experience, that he didn't look to a close friend for support, and that relationship grew into more than just friendship (I know I've seen friends going through hardship become romantically involved with someone who is providing close emotional support).<br><br>Obviously all the above is supposition, but none of us has any inside knowledge of what went on and when. Who did what to whom, and under what circumstances. Yet people state as fact that Micheal is evil, and the other side is stating as fact that the Schindlers are money grabbing. I don't know - but I do get sick of all the suppositions, that cannot be proved imperically.<br><br>

_________________________I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.

I think I heard studies somewhere/somewhen that widows/widowers do seek out remarriage very quickly. The reason supposed by the study was that they have ripped an important part of their life away from them, and they seek a replacement so that they may be whole again.<br><br>I can see where a partner dies, the memories tend to revolve around the happy times and they want to remake that in their lives.....whereas divorce tends not to concentrate on the happiness.<br><br>

_________________________I used to think it was terrible that life was unfair. Then I thought what if life were fair and all of the terrible things that happen came because we really deserved them? Now I take comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe.

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