PikAs53 wrote:How is about the Gladiator MKII Pro? Could the throttle also be combined with this stick as a "big all in one" Joystick? With the nasty habbit of Windows 10 to reassign the IDs of the Joysticks with every second boot it would be great if I could combine my Gladiator MKII Pro, my MKII rudder (works perfect with the Gladiator) and the throttle to one big Joystick.

This only happens if you use a game pad or other joystick hotas combos and have a nasty habit of plugging them in and out.

PikAs53 wrote:How is about the Gladiator MKII Pro? Could the throttle also be combined with this stick as a "big all in one" Joystick? With the nasty habbit of Windows 10 to reassign the IDs of the Joysticks with every second boot it would be great if I could combine my Gladiator MKII Pro, my MKII rudder (works perfect with the Gladiator) and the throttle to one big Joystick.

This only happens if you use a game pad or other joystick hotas combos and have a nasty habit of plugging them in and out.

Nonsense! This happens with my setup as well as with a friends setup. We both use VKB Gladiator and rudder (combo) and the thrustmaster throttle and MfD as Combo over TM's TargetUI, we NEVER unplug them. In contrast to older windows you can't define the ID and fix them. The only possibility at the moment is to reboot several times until the ID is the same as before or to go to the Geraetemanager in systems, uninstall it there and reboot. Windows 10 with the new build just switches the ID's at random. I am not a newbee with computers not to check this first. But this action steals 20 to 30 minutes of my time for nothing. I used the complete TM Combo (Stick, throttle, rudders and MfDs) to avoid this problem, but switched to VKB because this stuff is way better than the TM stuff. So this question is important as we also plan to buy the MCG Pro grip, and I could not switch this grip between Gladiator and Gunfighter as I understood from the different versions here.

SO AGAIN THE QUESTION IS: COULD THE GLADIATOR MKII PRO BE COMBINED WITH THE VKB RUDDER AND THE NEW THROTTLE TO ONE BIG JOYSTICK COMBO?

VKB, I can tell you what your market is...at least with me... I have been flying WW2 sim/Piston plane sim for years and years. As long as I live, I will buy anything you put out that is "vintage". Not that the piston plane throttle system is perfect, but it is perfect. Now it just needs a Spitefire/Mustang MK Ia stick handle to go with it.. I'm glad you all exist.

Do you want to use TWO USB ports?:Answer: YUP. One USB Port can conveniently be used to connect the Gladiator base to your PC. The other USB Port can be used to connect the Black Box, which will supply connections for the TECS and the Rudders.

Do you want to use TWO USB ports?:Answer: YUP. One USB Port can conveniently be used to connect the Gladiator base to your PC. The other USB Port can be used to connect the Black Box, which will supply connections for the TECS and the Rudders.

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Thanks for the answer, snuffles.Anyway it is not that easy. But first: the scenario I am looking for is one usb and three devices: Gladiator Pro, Rudders and VKB throttle.

The Gladiator has a sys connection on it's back. So maybe this is already to connect the throttle? No idea. Other scenario: all connected to the black (orange) box using only one usb port.

Before buying the MCG, which seems only to be used for either the Gladiator or the Gunfighter, but is not swappable, I would like to know what are the possible configs?Gunfighter, Pedals, Throttle on one USB port is an option, check.

But I just bought the Gladiator Pro 5 months ago. So all I want to know: what are the possible configs for this stick for one USB port. That is all.

Is the use of a good quality powered USB3 hub an option you have considered or tested?

I understand your previous explanation of the USB ID issue you'd been having, and am curious if you've been able to escalate to higher levels of tech support. We both know that using VKBDevCfg-C.exe to manage VKB device profile configuration applies the config changes to the device itself. Without overlaying software required for the hardware to perform it's profiled functions, the USB ID of the device should have no impact on the profile's output functions - Windows sees your Stick and Rudder combo as one device, doesn't it?