I’m in Europe so online casinos are always accessible.
I dont get the US laws, how come you cant just make an account on online sports betting/gambling site, put the money in through moneybookers and play?

I’m in Europe so online casinos are always accessible.
I dont get the US laws, how come you cant just make an account on online sports betting/gambling site, put the money in through moneybookers and play?

Hi Nucky,

There is probably a few ways I could fund one of the online
casino sites, but I don’t trust any of them. Even some of the
most reputable site are questionable. Willian Hill and a few
other have had players accounts hacked and the funds depicted,
especially the accounts with larger sums. I don’t feel the risk
is worth putting a few thousand in an account to fund my
strategy to log-in one day and find my balance at zero. If you
do some research you find this isn’t just an isolated issue.
Naturally most of these cases are never reported other then
to the online site and they will never admit it’s a serious problem.
Most online gambling sites aren’t even regulated and even the one’s
that are don’t have to show anyone there programs. If it was a
matter of a $100 or $200, I’d take the chance, but the $10 unit base
of the strategy requires almost $1,800 to play all 4 levels. I’ve read
stories of people losing $5,000 and up. They have a great run of luck
and then suddenly log-in to play to find out they have a zero balance.

Hopefully this year the laws here in the United States are about to
change and if they are regulated and supervised I will definitely
consider playing online. Until then I play at the live casinos, where
I can cash out my winning right there and not be subjected to all
kinds of clearances or weeks for the mailman to show up. I feel if
my credit card transaction can be approved in seconds, then my
cash outs should be approved and handled in the same time.
This is a multi-billion business and if any of these online casinos
ever realize how truly important their reputations, are they could
easily be the leaders of this industry.

I’m in Europe so online casinos are always accessible.
I dont get the US laws, how come you cant just make an account on online sports betting/gambling site, put the money in through moneybookers and play?

Hi Nucky,

There is probably a few ways I could fund one of the online
casino sites, but I don’t trust any of them. Even some of the
most reputable site are questionable. Willian Hill and a few
other have had players accounts hacked and the funds depicted,
especially the accounts with larger sums. I don’t feel the risk
is worth putting a few thousand in an account to fund my
strategy to log-in one day and find my balance at zero. If you
do some research you find this isn’t just an isolated issue.
Naturally most of these cases are never reported other then
to the online site and they will never admit it’s a serious problem.
Most online gambling sites aren’t even regulated and even the one’s
that are don’t have to show anyone there programs. If it was a
matter of a $100 or $200, I’d take the chance, but the $10 unit base
of the strategy requires almost $1,800 to play all 4 levels. I’ve read
stories of people losing $5,000 and up. They have a great run of luck
and then suddenly log-in to play to find out they have a zero balance.

Hopefully this year the laws here in the United States are about to
change and if they are regulated and supervised I will definitely
consider playing online. Until then I play at the live casinos, where
I can cash out my winning right there and not be subjected to all
kinds of clearances or weeks for the mailman to show up. I feel if
my credit card transaction can be approved in seconds, then my
cash outs should be approved and handled in the same time.
This is a multi-billion business and if any of these online casinos
ever realize how truly important their reputations, are they could
easily be the leaders of this industry.

I guess thats ok with large sums. In real casino the only fear is from the pit boss and the allseeing cameras. I do have a casino nearby but for some low stake playing and trying out systems, dont think its worth the trip. On the other hand,yes i believe that accounts with largers sums could just “disappear”. But I think not all of those emptied accounts are the casinos fault. A lot of people get carried away by the bonuses awarded for large fundings of the account. Of course nobody reads the fine print of the bonus terms and then it easily turns out to be a bonus abusement. So I guess its 50:50, some are just too lucky with gambling and that cant be allowed, the others dont read the rules.

One more thing. I just stumbled upon a strategy in one of the topics that is exactly like yours as far as progression goes. But it uses adaptive betting. It seems that it pehaps would be better to use adaptive betting. Because that would, in most cases, overcome what I hate the most, zig-zag in doubles like RRBBRR and then it switches to RBRBR.

Hi I have been following your system and I must say it looks very good, one thing I would like to ask Atlantis is which casinos can one play for minimum 10p stakes in UK
Tom

Hi Joiner,

I’m sorry, I don’t play on online casinos and are don’t know
their bettting limits. I’ve read that a few on this forum play
at William Hill and they have a minimum of 10p. Maybe others
might post and if there are other sites. Thanks for the interest.
Louie

Well I’ve have my first lost of all 4 levels of the strategy yesterday.
I went to Empire City yesterday and things were going fairly well.
I was playing a $30 base unit and was up almost $800 when I ran
into the zig-zag nightmare on 4 different tables.

The first table lost was 5 quick RBRBR.
The bets were $30, $48, $66 $84 & $102 = (-$330)

The second table lost was the same thing.
The bets were $45, $72, $99, $126 & $153 = (-$495)

The third Level was up and down but finally failed.
The bets were $90, $144, $198, $252 & $306 = (-$990)

The fourth level was a nightmare because I ran into three consecutive “0”.
If I would have been in Atlantic City it wouldn’t have been that bad
because they return half your bet when the greens show up ( 0 - 00).
The bets were $180, $288, $396, $504, & $612 = (-$1990)

In total with the wins I had before the nightmare the lost was $2850
for the day.

It has been a very good run for me in total, I was up $10,650 up til this
$2850 lost. So I must say it’s been a longer run then I expected, I’m
up $7800. The game plan is now to start over again at a $10 unit base.
Plus I will go back to 6 steps instead of the 5 steps I have been using
in all four levels of the strategy. So the bankroll will now be $1,725!

I’ll play the same way hoping to progress to a higher unit base if the
bankroll grows a few times. I was really hoping to make the $50 base
unit this times, but I can’t complain!

I have learned one thing, if my bankroll does grow and I do reach the
the $30 base unit again I will have to play in Atlantic City because
of the rule of returning half of the bet when the “0” & “00” zero show up.

It would make such a big difference to play on a single “0” wheel. It’s
been a very interesting run.

My friend Chris who is using the strategy is still doing great with the
strategy, he’s over $40,000 so far playing. He plays a little different
only using 3 levels instead of 4 levels and he goes all 6 steps in each
level. His bankroll for the $50 base units is $4,125 for the 3 levels
compared to $8,625 for all 4 levels of the strategy. Most of his play
is in Atlantic City and he gets back half his bets when the green ( 0 & 00)
hits.

So for all of you trying my strategy, remember you will lose with my
strategy, hopefully you’ll be lucky and be up many times your bankroll
before the lost does come. It’s a hit and run strategy, but the streaks
will reward you! It’s all about giving yourself a chance a the tables and
hopefully make a few bucks more often then our losts. Good Luck All>

Well I’ve had my first lost of all 4 levels of the strategy yesterday.
I went to Empire City yesterday and things were going fairly well.
I was playing a $30 base unit and was up almost $800 when I ran
into the zig-zag nightmare on 4 different tables.

The first table lost was 5 quick RBRBR.
The bets were $30, $48, $66 $84 & $102 = (-$330)

The second table lost was the same thing.
The bets were $45, $72, $99, $126 & $153 = (-$495)

The third Level was up and down but finally failed.
The bets were $90, $144, $198, $252 & $306 = (-$990)

The fourth level was a nightmare because I ran into three consecutive “0”.
If I would have been in Atlantic City it wouldn’t have been that bad
because they return half your bet when the greens show up ( 0 - 00).
The bets were $180, $288, $396, $504, & $612 = (-$1990)

In total with the wins I had before the nightmare the lost was $2850
for the day.

It has been a very good run for me in total, I was up $10,650 up til this
$2850 lost. So I must say it’s been a longer run then I expected, I’m
up $7800. The game plan is now to start over again at a $10 unit base.
Plus I will go back to 6 steps instead of the 5 steps I have been using
in all four levels of the strategy. So the bankroll will now be $1,725!

I’ll play the same way hoping to progress to a higher unit base if the
bankroll grows a few times. I was really hoping to make the $50 base
unit this times, but I can’t complain!

I have learned one thing, if my bankroll does grow and I do reach the
the $30 base unit again I will have to play in Atlantic City because
of the rule of returning half of the bet when the “0” & “00” zero show up.

It would make such a big difference to play on a single “0” wheel. It’s
been a very interesting run.

My friend Chris who is using the strategy is still doing great with the
strategy, he’s over $40,000 so far playing. He plays a little different
only using 3 levels instead of 4 levels and he goes all 6 steps in each
level. His bankroll for the $50 base units is $4,125 for the 3 levels
compared to $8,625 for all 4 levels of the strategy. Most of his play
is in Atlantic City and he gets back half his bets when the green ( 0 & 00)
hits.

So for all of you trying my strategy, remember you will lose with my
strategy, hopefully you’ll be lucky and be up many times your bankroll
before the lost does come. It’s a hit and run strategy, but the streaks
will reward you! It’s all about giving yourself a chance a the tables and
hopefully make a few bucks more often then our losts. Good Luck All>

Happy Fourth of July! Going to start all over today with the strategy at $10 units!

Well I’ve have my first lost of all 4 levels of the strategy yesterday.

A tip o’ my hat to you, Sir. Authors of systems rarely report their system failures. In fact I cannot recall ever reading such a report. It takes guts to poke a hole in one’s own bubble. A second hat tip, and a third for good measure.

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My name is Skulker Luis de Midnight.You killed my bankroll.Prepare to die.

You can’t win much with an up as you lose progression because your first bet must be very low. It also doesn’t make sense, mathematically, to risk your entire bankroll while chasing just one unit!
A better method would be to bet a percentage of your bankroll at each spin. This would enable your first bet to be much larger, and if you’re lucky, have a chance at a large win. As your bankroll grows, so does your bet!

Searching for “just the right up as you lose progression” is like trying to reach ZERO by dividing any number by TWO. After a while, you’ll think that you’re getting really close, but in reality, you’ll never really quite get there because an infinite series still exists between you and your goal.

Furthermore, watching on the sidelines for a string of rare events is a waste of time. You’re simply delaying the inevitable.

Well I just got home from Empire City, wasn’t as crowded as
I thought it would be for the Fourth of July. It was a little fustrating
starting over with the $10 base unit after playing the $30 base unit.
It’s not as excitng especially after take a sizable lost the other day,
but in hind-sight I feel I had a very good run and honestly didn’t expect
the run to be as long as it was. The bottom line is I’m still up $7,800
playing the Ching-A-Ling.

Today went well, I picked up $260 for the few hours play, plus I won
$400 on one of the slot machines. The roulette wheels were showing a
good run of streaks, no really big runs but a lot of 3 or 4 consecutive
reds and blacks. It’s going to be a “grind” but my notes show the
distribution of series is very close to 3/4 of all spins I’ve charted.
In light of that fact, I still have good vibes with the strategy and will
follow my own advise, “If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.” The Ching-A-Ling
has produced more winners than losers so far and it’s clear it’s due the
distribution of of series compared to single even money events. I’ll keep
at it and see how long of a run I can have before another “lost” comes ago.
Even if I get half the run I did before the other day"s lost, I would be delighted.

Atlantis, I find the 5/5 ANGLE interesting, but it’s not for me. It’s a hard enough
grind with the Ching-A-Ling, but this would requirer wait to much down time for
me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a “Grinder” in the truest sense, but this is something
that would drive me crazy. Running all over the casino checking the roulette display
boards looking for the “trigger.” Thanks for the thought, I’m going to ride out the
Ching-A-Ling til I lose the $8,000 I’m up with it at this point or just keep progressing
up the ladder ($10, 420, $30, $40, & $50 base unit) everythime the bankroll triples.
Where I’m at in profits right now I can incur 5 total losts at the $10 base unit of all
4 levels of the strategy. I honestly don’t see that happening. Thanks anyway, Atlantis!

Hi Midnight Skulker,

You’ve been a class act ever since I started posting here, you’ve always have
read my post not sounding off on me with negativity. Yes we have different views of
a few things, but you have always been considerate. Some people here think I don’t
know about the odds or the house edge or standard deviatation but I’m well aware of
all the math, all that I question in my mind is what is truly random? The Chaos Theory
and the Butterfly Effect is a truly a interesting theory which many scientist have given
serious thought to. What drives me crazy is that one can do a million trial and the
percentages always come close with little standard deviation. that alone amazes me!
Random means something altogether different to me, there shouldn’t ever be anything
that predictable and still be random. It’s not the independence of the single event it’s
the group of the sampling as a whole always falls within those limited range of standard
deviation even in a trillion trails. Well, thanks for being a class act no matter what are
differences are. My hat is off to you too!

Houston,

I agree most progressions are a foolish endeavor, but I feel in this case with this
strategy it help me survive a little longer at the tables in the hope of running into
the color streak series. I’ve never once told anyone this strategy they were going to
make big money with this. I told everyone it was a total “Grind”, just like a job and
there was no guarantees of a paycheck. All I did was offer my results and theory behind
the strategy. It’s not a Martingale in the true sense of risking everything to make 1 unit,
it’s has limited levels with multiple steps. I clearly understand the strength of betting
a percentage of bankroll for the potential of a much large win, but with this strategy
I find it’s best the way I use the negative progression with this strategy. The power of
my strategy isn’t in the progression it’s in the distribution of even money appearances
of series. I’ve done testing of thousands of groups of 100 trials and the it’s amamzing
series account for 3/4 of all sample trial groups. That tells me all I need to know, might
there be a better betting process, absolutely! This is the best I could come up with and
have the results I’ve had. When I realize that Ching - A - Ling is another losing system
“I’ll FIX IT”, by moving on to someting new!

Well I just got home from Empire City, wasn’t as crowded as
I thought it would be for the Fourth of July. It was a little fustrating
starting over with the $10 base unit after playing the $30 base unit.
It’s not as excitng especially after take a sizable lost the other day,
but in hind-sight I feel I had a very good run and honestly didn’t expect
the run to be as long as it was. The bottom line is I’m still up $7,800
playing the Ching-A-Ling.

Today went well, I picked up $260 for the few hours play, plus I won
$400 on one of the slot machines. The roulette wheels were showing a
good run of streaks, no really big runs but a lot of 3 or 4 consecutive
reds and blacks. It’s going to be a “grind” but my notes show the
distribution of series is very close to 3/4 of all spins I’ve charted.
In light of that fact, I still have good vibes with the strategy and will
follow my own advise, “If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.” The Ching-A-Ling
has produced more winners than losers so far and it’s clear it’s due the
distribution of of series compared to single even money events. I’ll keep
at it and see how long of a run I can have before another “lost” comes ago.
Even if I get half the run I did before the other day"s lost, I would be delighted.

Atlantis, I find the 5/5 ANGLE interesting, but it’s not for me. It’s a hard enough
grind with the Ching-A-Ling, but this would requirer wait to much down time for
me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a “Grinder” in the truest sense, but this is something
that would drive me crazy. Running all over the casino checking the roulette display
boards looking for the “trigger.” Thanks for the thought, I’m going to ride out the
Ching-A-Ling til I lose the $8,000 I’m up with it at this point or just keep progressing
up the ladder ($10, 420, $30, $40, & $50 base unit) everythime the bankroll triples.
Where I’m at in profits right now I can incur 5 total losts at the $10 base unit of all
4 levels of the strategy. I honestly don’t see that happening. Thanks anyway, Atlantis!

Hi Midnight Skulker,

You’ve been a class act ever since I started posting here, you’ve always have
read my post not sounding off on me with negativity. Yes we have different views of
a few things, but you have always been considerate. Some people here think I don’t
know about the odds or the house edge or standard deviatation but I’m well aware of
all the math, all that I question in my mind is what is truly random? The Chaos Theory
and the Butterfly Effect is a truly a interesting theory which many scientist have given
serious thought to. What drives me crazy is that one can do a million trial and the
percentages always come close with little standard deviation. that alone amazes me!
Random means something altogether different to me, there shouldn’t ever be anything
that predictable and still be random. It’s not the independence of the single event it’s
the group of the sampling as a whole always falls within those limited range of standard
deviation even in a trillion trails. Well, thanks for being a class act no matter what are
differences are. My hat is off to you too!

Houston,

I agree most progressions are a foolish endeavor, but I feel in this case with this
strategy it help me survive a little longer at the tables in the hope of running into
the color streak series. I’ve never once told anyone this strategy they were going to
make big money with this. I told everyone it was a total “Grind”, just like a job and
there was no guarantees of a paycheck. All I did was offer my results and theory behind
the strategy. It’s not a Martingale in the true sense of risking everything to make 1 unit,
it’s has limited levels with multiple steps. I clearly understand the strength of betting
a percentage of bankroll for the potential of a much large win, but with this strategy
I find it’s best the way I use the negative progression with this strategy. The power of
my strategy isn’t in the progression it’s in the distribution of even money appearances
of series. I’ve done testing of thousands of groups of 100 trials and the it’s amamzing
series account for 3/4 of all sample trial groups. That tells me all I need to know, might
there be a better betting process, absolutely! This is the best I could come up with and
have the results I’ve had. When I realize that Ching - A - Ling is another losing system
“I’ll FIX IT”, by moving on to someting new!

The power of
my strategy isn’t in the progression it’s in the distribution of even money appearances
of series. I’ve done testing of thousands of groups of 100 trials and the it’s amamzing
series account for 3/4 of all sample trial groups. That tells me all I need to know, might
there be a better betting process, absolutely!

In time, you’ll realize that you can’t step outside of probability and that your series are simply reducing the number of spins on which your betting. They aren’t helping you. Conditional betting over 100k spins isn’t really testing a system over 100k spins. You can only count the number of times that a bet has actually been placed in a simulation.

The power of
my strategy isn’t in the progression it’s in the distribution of even money appearances
of series. I’ve done testing of thousands of groups of 100 trials and the it’s amamzing
series account for 3/4 of all sample trial groups. That tells me all I need to know, might
there be a better betting process, absolutely!

In time, you’ll realize that you can’t step outside of probability and that your series are simply reducing the number of spins on which your betting. They aren’t helping you. Conditional betting over 100k spins isn’t really testing a system over 100k spins. You can only count the number of times that a bet has actually been placed in a simulation.

In my original testing with RNG’s I took hand written notes and you
are correct there was only approximately 5,000 actual bets and the
results were well over (+) 230,000. In further testing after that I would
say I have another 10,000 spins where actual betting. I’m well aware
that this is a very limited number. My other testing involved hundred of
of thousands of spins just to see if the results would show series account
for 3/4 of all trials. Those testing results did confirm the statistics of the
distribution of appearances of series.

My live play results doesn’t account for many “actual” bets, The highest
positive result was almost $11,000 and now $8,300 with a lost in between.
I don’t have the time to get away as much as I like with having a job that
requires much of my time. But my friend Chris, who is using my strategy
is a professional poker player, has been playing almost everyday for a few
hours and is over $43,000 ahead. He plays a little different than I do and
play only a $50 unit base. He likes the math of the appearance of series,
and he has even suffered 1 lost so far.

I know I need a lot more actual live play to get a truer picture but the numbers
do seem to hold together. You have to realize there have been days where I
have reached my days goal in a few hours of play and only placed 50 to 100
actual bets. There’s no stepping “outside” of probability, the thing is I’m trying
to live within probability and avoid large standard deviatation. If the series
can stay anywhere near that 3/4 percentage, mathematically I have a great
chance of winning consistently. If I can control my lost limits a positive result
is possible, even over time and maybe the law of large numbers!

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