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Zero requested it, and here it is! A thread to discuss Neil Gaiman's The Sandman and all it's various nooks and crannies and spin-off series.

I just finished 'The Wake' tonight, and found it a very good, touching ending, although I think maybe the order of the stories should have been switched. You have this amazing 3-part story which wraps things up... but then there's 3 more issues to go, and whilst they are all epilogues in their own way, they felt a bit tacked on, especially the Shakespeare one. But it doesn't matter really.

I put off reading Sandman for so long, but I'm so glad I finally got around to it, it's a wonderful story, and it's unique in the group of 'big acclaimed comics' in that it's not just one big epic, but an epic that's made up of a lot of beautiful smaller pieces.

Staff Writer

Zero requested it, and here it is! A thread to discuss Neil Gaiman's The Sandman and all it's various nooks and crannies and spin-off series.

I just finished 'The Wake' tonight, and found it a very good, touching ending, although I think maybe the order of the stories should have been switched. You have this amazing 3-part story which wraps things up... but then there's 3 more issues to go, and whilst they are all epilogues in their own way, they felt a bit tacked on, especially the Shakespeare one. But it doesn't matter really.

I put off reading Sandman for so long, but I'm so glad I finally got around to it, it's a wonderful story, and it's unique in the group of 'big acclaimed comics' in that it's not just one big epic, but an epic that's made up of a lot of beautiful smaller pieces.

Twenty-Something

For some reason it took me years to buy and read Sandman. I knew it was good, I knew Gaiman had done an extraordinary work, but for some reason I never got around to it until 2008, when I started buying the tpbs. And I loved them more than I could have anticipated.

Twenty-Something

For some reason it took me years to buy and read Sandman. I knew it was good, I knew Gaiman had done an extraordinary work, but for some reason I never got around to it until 2008, when I started buying the tpbs. And I loved them more than I could have anticipated.

Post Whore

Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

Post Whore

Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

Zombie Guard

Punchy, I was really worried that you'd read the JSA issues about Hector and Lyta returning, because while they do feature Dream it's actually Daniel (and Brute & Glob) appearing in those issues and that would be a pretty hefty spoiler.

In addition to Lucifer, Endless Nights and the Death minis, I'd recommend tracking down The Furies, an OGN about Lyta trying to get over Daniel's death by travelling to Greece. Lovely Jon Bolton art in that. I also liked a few of the Sandman Presents minis, including Ed Brubaker's Dead Boy Detectives (Charles and Edwin from Season of Mists) and a really depressing Bast one which I believe was the last to come out.

A few bits of the Dreaming are worth a read too, there's an arc with Matthew coming back to life as a man for a while, as well as some Thessaly and Corinthian stories I really enjoyed.

Have you read Alan Moore's Swamp Thing yet? You can see how heavily Sandman was influenced by it (especially the events of Doll's House which shares a couple of characters)

MikeinLA wrote:Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

I think Thessaly ended up regretting loosing Lyta on Dream, and likely didn't realise that Morpheus didn't plan on surviving it all. She's spent her whole life keeping her head down and staying alive and is likely too smart to make a deal with Loki and Puck.

Punchy, I was really worried that you'd read the JSA issues about Hector and Lyta returning, because while they do feature Dream it's actually Daniel (and Brute & Glob) appearing in those issues and that would be a pretty hefty spoiler.

In addition to Lucifer, Endless Nights and the Death minis, I'd recommend tracking down The Furies, an OGN about Lyta trying to get over Daniel's death by travelling to Greece. Lovely Jon Bolton art in that. I also liked a few of the Sandman Presents minis, including Ed Brubaker's Dead Boy Detectives (Charles and Edwin from Season of Mists) and a really depressing Bast one which I believe was the last to come out.

A few bits of the Dreaming are worth a read too, there's an arc with Matthew coming back to life as a man for a while, as well as some Thessaly and Corinthian stories I really enjoyed.

Have you read Alan Moore's Swamp Thing yet? You can see how heavily Sandman was influenced by it (especially the events of Doll's House which shares a couple of characters)

MikeinLA wrote:Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

I think Thessaly ended up regretting loosing Lyta on Dream, and likely didn't realise that Morpheus didn't plan on surviving it all. She's spent her whole life keeping her head down and staying alive and is likely too smart to make a deal with Loki and Puck.

The Goddamn Bat-min

MikeinLA wrote:Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

No. Thessaly helped Lyta for other reasons, mostly to do with sisterhood and female power.

The Goddamn Bat-min

MikeinLA wrote:Its been almost twenty years since I read the story, but I thought it was Thessaly that was the one who was behind Daniel's abduction, and that she manipulated the events that would lead to Dream's death out of spite. Morpheus made it all possible by killing his own son, which was taboo, but it was Thessaly who was the manifestation of the prophesy.

No. Thessaly helped Lyta for other reasons, mostly to do with sisterhood and female power.

The Goddamn Bat-min

Anyway, as I told Punchy elsewhere, my Masters thesis is about Sandman, and specifically Dream's seeming inability to adapt and the idea that he commits suicide in order to allow himself to change with the times.

The Goddamn Bat-min

Anyway, as I told Punchy elsewhere, my Masters thesis is about Sandman, and specifically Dream's seeming inability to adapt and the idea that he commits suicide in order to allow himself to change with the times.

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I'll slap the shit out you so bad your moms will call and be all like "You okay? I just got a sharp pain on the side of my face."

I think Thessaly is a survivor (like a Destiny's Child song) so she really just keeps Lyta for a bit to write off the bad debt for puking down the moon but I don't think she bargains with Loki and Puck.

I'll slap the shit out you so bad your moms will call and be all like "You okay? I just got a sharp pain on the side of my face."

I think Thessaly is a survivor (like a Destiny's Child song) so she really just keeps Lyta for a bit to write off the bad debt for puking down the moon but I don't think she bargains with Loki and Puck.