Originally posted by WoodSpirit
So what is the official ATS staff standpoint on this?

Sofar we had Neforemore here telling people to leave if they don't like it, but I would like to see how staff explains this apparent connection
between NSA.gov and ATS.

Thanks in advance.

edit on 27-11-2012 by WoodSpirit because: (no reason given)

In the early days I was told many times I could take a hike if I
didn't like ATS. Umm, like what? Oh, oh, wait a minute, If I didn't like, err, what?

there is no connection, there is no color coding, there is nothing to like or dislike. The only thing ats and nsa have in common, are they both use
letters from the English language. And besides, neither one exists. Just ask them.

Originally posted by neformore
simply, choosing to be spectacularly obtuse.

Question - How can one assume as a general rule that communicating obtusely is a choice when the definition of obtuse is subjective and entirely
dependent on the audience (in this example, yourself, Sir)?

Could it be that individual interpretations of information are not necessarily correlated due to individual experience and the resultant dissonance of
awareness subsequently results in a collaborative posting environment which has on many occasions arrived at the correct answer (the games SO has put
on is a prime example even if the theme is mostly based on pattern/math rather than emotive expression). Isn't that very nature of the poster here on
this site why we first expressed interest in contributing to discussion...to be a part of the process that arrives at the general or specific
answers?

So why is contextual questioning (the relationship between this site and the nsa) now a means for the expression of oppressive rhetoric? Why can't
the answer be as simple as website traffic correlation? Could it be possible that the answer is as simple as the fact that there is a very real
conspiracy, or many aspects of one, that has been discussed on this site and the nsa tuned in? Such a scenario absolves ATS from being directly
related and could redirect the discussion to figuring out why.

I get your reasoning and I support it. But maybe, in the quest to maintain some ill defined status quo, you may have forgotten why conversation here
rocks...or can rock. My hat is off to you for a difficult job but...

Cheers...

edit on Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:06:11 -0600 by MemoryShock because: Edit to add - I get the irony of what may be seen as an obtuse
communication by me. In my defense, the level of disclaimer I would reqire to not make this post seem offensive (it isn't and shouldn't be
interpreted as such) would have made it longer.

Luckily we are far removed from the IRS. Checkout the job search engine Constellation.

Oddly though it seems like abovetopsecret.com is in the suburbs of the internet. Between infomercials, mom and pop websites, survivalist websites, a
few esoteric websites. Odd that the NSA is far removed from the government cluster, very, very odd.

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virtual maps (e.g. the map of Mordor), the objects shown on it are not aligned on a surface. Mathematically speaking, The Internet map is a
bi-dimensional presentation of links between websites on the Internet. Every site is a circle on the map, and its size is determined by website
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Importantly, clusters on the map are semantically charged, i.e. they join websites together according to their content. For example, a vast porno
cluster can be seen between Brazil and Japan as well as a host of minor clusters uniting websites of the same field or similar purposes.

Like any other map, The Internet map is a scheme displaying objects’ relative position; but unlike real maps (e.g. the map of the Earth) or
virtual maps (e.g. the map of Mordor), the objects shown on it are not aligned on a surface. Mathematically speaking, The Internet map is a
bi-dimensional presentation of links between websites on the Internet. Every site is a circle on the map, and its size is determined by website
traffic, the larger the amount of traffic, the bigger the circle. Users’ switching between websites forms links, and the stronger the link, the
closer the websites tend to arrange themselves to each other.

Importantly, clusters on the map are semantically charged, i.e. they join websites together according to their content. For example, a vast porno
cluster can be seen between Brazil and Japan as well as a host of minor clusters uniting websites of the same field or similar purposes.

With all due respect here... Your interpretation of "close to" seems to be leading you to incorrect conclusions - implying that you do not
understand the semantic and linking correlation between the sites.

Well unless the staff here are actually all NSA agents with cancer, a penchant for make-up, and HUGE fans of a rugby team to boot.

The map does not imply that the servers are connected or anything of that nature.

With all due respect here... Your interpretation of "close to" seems to be leading you to incorrect conclusions - implying that you do not
understand the semantic and linking correlation between the sites.

Well unless the staff here are actually all NSA agents with cancer, a penchant for make-up, and HUGE fans of a rugby team to boot.

The map does not imply that the servers are connected or anything of that nature.

I'm not saying the servers are linked, but the traffic is ..

just making a observation

The Internet map is a bi-dimensional presentation of links between websites on the Internet. Every site is a circle on the map, and its size is
determined by website traffic, the larger the amount of traffic, the bigger the circle. Users’ switching between websites forms links, and
the stronger the link, the closer the websites tend to arrange themselves to each other.

I'd have to agree with Heff on this. As ATS members we already "knew" there were disinfo agents parusing the threads, that's a give in.
Alternatively, that has no relation to the Owner's of this site, nore the mods. Ironically, both are possible and Nefomore is absolutely correct, if
you don't like it leave.

I'm sure the recent fluxuation in Internet traffic due to NSA's snooping accross the board has many new members and old cross referencing and
visiting the NSA site as well.

I understand where's Heff's quote are going and soundly logical, though speculation and the nature of this site will cause all of us to question
1000 times over, until the dog is just a quivering sac of broken bones...

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