I'm Atheist and I vote! - Atheist Nexus2016-12-10T03:04:03Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/i-m-atheist-and-i-vote?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2094144&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIf the Soviets hadn't put a m…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-05:2182797:Comment:20940632012-11-05T09:15:52.926Ztom sarbeckhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomSarbeck
<p>If the Soviets hadn't put a man into space, teaching evolution in our schools might still be illegal.</p>
<p>I'm not kidding, America began spending on science and math education.</p>
<p>BTW, the money did alleviate poverty. I worked in the Apollo program and some of the money alleviated my poverty.</p>
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<p>If the Soviets hadn't put a man into space, teaching evolution in our schools might still be illegal.</p>
<p>I'm not kidding, America began spending on science and math education.</p>
<p>BTW, the money did alleviate poverty. I worked in the Apollo program and some of the money alleviated my poverty.</p>
<p></p> Hey, Russell, that money spen…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-05:2182797:Comment:20941472012-11-05T09:03:42.889Ztom sarbeckhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomSarbeck
<p>Hey, Russell, that money spent on negative advertising provided a lot of employment.</p>
<p>Something positive? What can we do that will drive the billionaires into penury?</p>
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<p>Hey, Russell, that money spent on negative advertising provided a lot of employment.</p>
<p>Something positive? What can we do that will drive the billionaires into penury?</p>
<p></p> What led you to conclude that…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-05:2182797:Comment:20941442012-11-05T08:53:07.546Ztom sarbeckhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/TomSarbeck
<p>What led you to conclude that life is rational?????</p>
<p>Your not having done yourself in proves that you too are irrational.</p>
<p>Be kinder to your nose.</p>
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<p>What led you to conclude that life is rational?????</p>
<p>Your not having done yourself in proves that you too are irrational.</p>
<p>Be kinder to your nose.</p>
<p></p> I will be voting on the 6th.…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-04:2182797:Comment:20938272012-11-04T19:05:01.358ZLilithabihttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Lilthabi
<p>I will be voting on the 6th. I hate living in a red state. I feel as like I'm wasting my vote on who will be president. Really crossing my fingers for Obama. Four More Years! =)</p>
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<p>I will be voting on the 6th. I hate living in a red state. I feel as like I'm wasting my vote on who will be president. Really crossing my fingers for Obama. Four More Years! =)</p>
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<p></p> [I am sorry if my replies don…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-04:2182797:Comment:20936602012-11-04T18:52:35.100Zjay Hhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/jayholovacs
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"The U.S.A did not send a man to the moon because they would see related beneficial technological breakthroughs. "<br />
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This is true and this is partly why it worked. Trying to justify it through spinoffs starts us in the wrong direction (and I would argue that pretty much all of those spinoffs would have come about as quickly out of the military or commercial arena anyhow.)…
[I am sorry if my replies don't thread properly. Even when I attempt to reply to a post, it comes out in the main thread]<br />
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"The U.S.A did not send a man to the moon because they would see related beneficial technological breakthroughs. "<br />
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This is true and this is partly why it worked. Trying to justify it through spinoffs starts us in the wrong direction (and I would argue that pretty much all of those spinoffs would have come about as quickly out of the military or commercial arena anyhow.) Once the justification is framed in spinoffs it becomes captive to ongoing challenges and continuous re-justifications. Jay, I'm glad to hear you sup…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-04:2182797:Comment:20935032012-11-04T16:08:02.510ZRussell Pangbornhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RussellPangborn
<p>Jay, I'm glad to hear you support the space program and that is neat that you worked on a component of the Mars Phoenix. I never believed if you took the money that went into the space race it would have been used to alleviate poverty - it was just a popular thing to say in that era.</p>
<p><br></br>I checked Wikipedia and found some interesting technologies that are considered space program spinoffs. Interestingly enough at the bottom they say Tang is one of the ones that has been mistakenly…</p>
<p>Jay, I'm glad to hear you support the space program and that is neat that you worked on a component of the Mars Phoenix. I never believed if you took the money that went into the space race it would have been used to alleviate poverty - it was just a popular thing to say in that era.</p>
<p><br/>I checked Wikipedia and found some interesting technologies that are considered space program spinoffs. Interestingly enough at the bottom they say Tang is one of the ones that has been mistakenly attributed as a NASA spin-off technology. I was also surprised to see MRI's beside Tang on that list. Still, the spin-off list is quite impressive. </p>
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<p>The U.S.A did not send a man to the moon because they would see related beneficial technological breakthroughs. It was at war with an ideology that had a temporary lead in sending man into space.</p>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies" target="_blank">NASA spin-off technologies</a></p>
<p></p> Glad you are voting! And des…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-04:2182797:Comment:20935622012-11-04T15:04:54.081ZDaniel Wachenheimhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
<p>Glad you are voting! And despite the "drop in the bucket" that each of our votes makes, the investment in voting is minimal, and it matters a lot. Thank you for commenting and for voting!</p>
<p>Glad you are voting! And despite the "drop in the bucket" that each of our votes makes, the investment in voting is minimal, and it matters a lot. Thank you for commenting and for voting!</p> "I remember when they used to…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-04:2182797:Comment:20935612012-11-04T14:55:52.967Zjay Hhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/jayholovacs
"I remember when they used to say - If only we spent that money going to the space program on reducing poverty - there would be an improved society. They always ignored the spinoff technological benefits."<br />
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I support the space program, but on its own terms (actually I worked on a component of the Mars Phoenix).<br />
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I don't buy the spinoff bit as a justification, it's a large expense for stuff that would have happened anyhow (well except for Tang--no one would invent that). Sure technologies were…
"I remember when they used to say - If only we spent that money going to the space program on reducing poverty - there would be an improved society. They always ignored the spinoff technological benefits."<br />
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I support the space program, but on its own terms (actually I worked on a component of the Mars Phoenix).<br />
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I don't buy the spinoff bit as a justification, it's a large expense for stuff that would have happened anyhow (well except for Tang--no one would invent that). Sure technologies were being developed for the space program but virtually all of them were just as useful for military and commercial aviation, manufacturing and communications industries. Those productive applications would have borne the cost. Almost none of this stuff was specific to the space program. (Interestingly the space program sometimes, of necessity, lags behind the commercial sector. The camera on Curiosity, for example is years behind that in a cheap cell phone).<br />
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The spinoffs, when they occur are nice, but they don't come anywhere near justification of the cost. We need to sell space exploration on its own merits. This will be my first time v…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-03:2182797:Comment:20930522012-11-03T19:09:49.861ZPhillip Gutierrezhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/PhillipGutierrez
<p> This will be my first time voting. I used to believe that the system got away and didn't matter anymore. But now that I have a family, I do not want anyone else voting for me. Voting for a president might be contraversial because of the Electoral College, but on a local level, like state measures, votes really do matter.</p>
<p> This will be my first time voting. I used to believe that the system got away and didn't matter anymore. But now that I have a family, I do not want anyone else voting for me. Voting for a president might be contraversial because of the Electoral College, but on a local level, like state measures, votes really do matter.</p> Hey Sentient - I would never…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-03:2182797:Comment:20928652012-11-03T16:50:35.509ZRussell Pangbornhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/RussellPangborn
<p>Hey Sentient - I would never advocate not exercising the "sacred" right to vote. </p>
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<p>Always have and my three children have been brought up to respect this privilege no matter what.</p>
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<p>We just need to vote with our eyes fully open.</p>
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<p>Hey Sentient - I would never advocate not exercising the "sacred" right to vote. </p>
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<p>Always have and my three children have been brought up to respect this privilege no matter what.</p>
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<p>We just need to vote with our eyes fully open.</p>
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