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I just read a really interesting essay for school not to long ago that addressed the pseudo-masculinity men are encouraged to display (i.e. being constantly interested in &/or willing to have sex with any available woman, so as not to be mistaken for gay) & your post reminds me of it. Not bringing up sex immediately would not be a "clue" to me but, if you are talking about someone in the closet, they are trying NOT to be found out so, it can & does take people completely by surprise sometimes.

But, a relationship or a friendship should be a distinction that is made in any relationship where it may not be clear, of course.

I really don't know. 3libras has a very valid point. I know a man that was married, he and his wife have a child and one day he confessed to his wife that he thinks he is a woman. A divorce, a move to a new city, wardrobe change and sex change later he is now she. You just never really know.

There are also bi-sexual men but may want an emotional relationship with a woman. It's all just confusing out there anymore so I agree that it should be discussed up front where the relationship is going. At my age I wouldn't care anymore. I'm too tired for sex and if the guy was gay I know I'd be dressed well and have the best make up!

My husband didn't even kiss me on our first two dates, didn't try to. He says he was just "trying to be a gentleman" and he was. I think he was also making sure I felt the same way before he started anything. But I didn't think he was gay!

MY DH heard about this sort of thing on TV. he asked me what I would do if he did that to me, come out of the closet.(we have been married 23 years). I told him first, we would not have sex any more, second you are not getting rid of me that quickly. Spent 23 years in this relationship. It will take a while to financially move on. i told him he wont divorce me tell I am financially ready.