Documentary Video Film Origins of Aids

Since first being broadcast in 2003 the Origins Of Aids has yet to be aired on UK television. Despite winning many awards and being hotly debated the reason is because of the barrage of legal assaults made on potential screeners by Dr Koprowski (and his legal network), who strongly denies causing the Aids epidemic during his 1950s trials of an experimental polio vaccine in Africa. Doc-Film-Net has also been threatened with more legal action for showing this important film than any other! If this copy goes dead post a comment and I will endeavor to locate another host.

Update: High quality version taken down by hosts after more threats.
Update: Here it is again in medium quality.

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this film isn't working.... a higher RES version would
be good - the medium version is too hard to read
subtitles....

They CUT out their kidneys, which were infected with
SIV Simeon Immune Virus. The vaccine that was sent to
the US was not contaminated. The African's were the
control group to see what the disease did in the human
body.

This film is a must see. I saw it on the Sundance
Channel more than once and have told people about how
the African people were infected with AIDS and that
they operated on live Chimps, but out their kidneys for
the sub-strate to grow the polio vacine that was
contaminated with SIDS, and then threw them on a pile,
alive and bleeding out while they woke up from the
sedatives and screamed as they died. This needs to be
shown in its entirity to everybody. This kind of thing
is still happening today and this can't remain hiden
no matter who threatens litigation. That's BS!
Everybody needs to be told what they do to our closest
living primate. God's curse on those who hide the
truth.

The video doesn't prove that CHAT grown locally on
chimpanzee kidneys was contaminated, but it does prove
(through statements by people involved) that it was
prepared that way. (What does "CHAT" stand for,
anyway? Koprowski could never get the story straight
about how he named his vaccine.)

Objections to Hooper's theory are dealt with in detail
on his website: http://www.aidsorigins.com/

You can see the full 1 hr 29 minute documentary at
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-22240460955105
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The one shown here is only 43 minutes. Why?

This was so Bad, Now African are wiser than the White
now. Why cant they test heir family with the sample. Is
it only african that can suffer...
I got a remedy for the cure of AID.... Check the
Duodelum of a chimpazy, there is a sample there called
hollindia in a dark colour work on it then the solution
will be a anti dose to AID

Please repost the video

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mistake. immediately i was captivated. i sat there the
whole 2 or so hours mezmerized by the by the proof,
legal documentation, film footage, scientific evidence
and interviews that proved what i have always
suspected.....best documentary i have ever seen.

It's so amazing how a group of people can hater
another then experient on a whole culture. I love how
they try to cover it up. If the White Europeans never
touch their earth those people will still be in their
own existing of culture. Yes, their is proverty but
isn't that everywhere. I can't imagine and even to
this day hating a race so bad. The reason was to kill
off the black population. It's only skin, features,
and hair difference people. I think we will all reach a
end where we will have destroyed our own existing.
Native of Americans or Amercian Indians had a similliar
contact when "white Euorpeans" passed on smallpox.
Destroying another culture, society, group is
wrong.Just because you don't like their culture
remember that's the beauity of people. Let's learn
from another back then they where like devils! Their
misson to destroy anything that was not like them.

The doubting thomases on this blog are one and the same
with the Killers of only Africans as they thought would
happen to; but fortunately, it crossed racial
boundaries and boomeranged. We cannot challenge God but
anyone who tries it will receice the wrath of God.
Africans are resilient people in body and spirit and
therefore will overcome these attacks and no doubt
their attackers will receive what bad they wished
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Are you trying to fools us all here? Talking down the
hires movie because of intimidation but keep the low
quality where we can not even read the subtitle?

Do you really want us to believe this bullshit? GIVE US
THE FULL VERSION AND STOP LOW BALLING US ALL!!

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very, very interesting...

This information is on track with the stuff I have been
researching. Wake up People. If they do it to us
Afrikans and people of Afrikan descent, what makes you
autonomous. This is all about feeding the
pharmaceutical companies and padding the pockets of
scientist who want to use the human population as their
laboratories. Genocide and for those who fail to speak
up against this injustice, release them into the Matrix
because they are no good to humanity anyway. Hotep!

XMRV (Xenotropic Murine Retrovirus) has been found in
humans with CFS/ME and Prostate Cancer.

Search youtube for XMRV.

An estimated 17 million people are infected, who are
blamed for being mentally ill by
Governments/Psychiatric industry.

Whether or not there are earlier occurrences of aids is
really irrelevant,the fact remains that there was a
massive outbreak in this area that correlates to the
sites where the virus was administered...and that
members of the scientific community have purjured
themselves and given evidence that conflicts with eye
witness accounts. Lets face it, they were and still are
grinding up monkey bits to make vaccines and injecting
them into people. HIV comes from SIV which comes from
monkeys. Its pretty obvious isnt it. You can nit pick
about the details, but usually the most obvious and
likely scenario is the correct one.... as for the "911
conspiracy theorists dont spread your paranoia"
comment, you soound american, americans are
indoctrinated from birth to believe they live in the
land of the free, this is of course crap... America is
well known to the rest of the world as being one of the
most corrupt countries on the planet. Look at enron,
look at rumsfield whit his shares in the companies that
went into the middle east, there is something very
fishy going on, maybe we'll never no exactly what, but
wake up and smell the coffee... no matter that it might
a little bitter and unpalatable for you american
patriotist ego to swallow...

42min ver eh & fr
http://blip.tv/file/73863

There are so many fishy things about AIDS, why did Dr.
Koprowski go to vaccinate poor african children while
the world had just discovered the Polio vaccine?..when
did africa become a priority?..esepecially in the
turbulent 1960s racial upheavals?
I saw on the Documentary Dr. Koprowski denying he used
chimps on his research while photographic evidence
shows otherwise?
To those who says someone even hooked up a monkey or
slaughtered a monkey/.....if someone did it..then it
means it wasnt the first time they did it...so it cant
happen that the virus waited for all those years to
surface in the 1980's.
Africa may have had the virus in the 70's but those
who "made it"had to hide it first...Africans believed
the disease was a curse or witchcraft.
Thanks Mr. Hooper for this insight...It holds some
water to me.

There are theories that claim HIV/AIDS could be
Hundreds of years old. Retroviruses reproduce in a
recombinant way
See Documentary "AIDS inc" for name of actual
Scientist who first theorised that AIDS was older than
we had first believed.
Evidence it may have existed in close to
present/similar form from 1930"s also available

@Guest on Monday (11/16/09): "Scientists currently
overwhelmingly believe that the origins of HIV is well
before the late 50s. This is the overwhelming opinion
amongst the majority of scientists."
So, since when do scientists "believe"?
Believe is as religion: just an opinion. Once you start
listening to 1 safe and secure source of
desinformation, you forget about the truth. Which is
often just much more likely then a lie.

I first saw this on sundance channel 3 yrs ago, & it
made a lot of sense. It is hard to dismiss the
correlation of the vaccination & subsequent appearance
of AIDS in the Congo. It would be nice if all of these
scientists could explain how it was possible for the
first AIDS cases to appear in the areas where the
proposed chimp vaccine was administered. I personally
do not think that they can or are willing to. Anyway
excellent video & I wish more people would ask
questions about the AIDS virus & its origins.

I believe this...

“the evidence seems overwhelming” hmmmmm,
seems it wasn't “thought provoking” enough for you
with that conclusion!

Interesting documentary, though I see no facts here,
just a hypothesis. In science, the strongest
hypothesis (the one with the strongest/existing
evidence) is the one that wins. To follow a an idea
without evidence is irrelevant and so, for those who
after watching this documentary that take this
hypothesis as fact must ask yourself why you take it as
fact. There is NO evidence.

Chimpanzees seem to have been used due to the number of
eye witness accounts however this does not prove
anything other than, that Dr Koprowski probably lied
about the use of chimpanzees. He is however human, and
as such would have a number of possible reasons for not
disclosing this fact. The main one I can think of, is
his reputation. Whether or not he is honest is
irrelevant. His good/bad character does not prove
anything or manufacture facts from which there is no
evidence, just speculation.

Scientists currently overwhelmingly believe that the
origins of HIV is well before the late 50s. This is
the overwhelming opinion amongst the majority of
scientists. The only thing not known for certain is
when exactly it jumped to the human population. By
mapping the evolution of the virus however its not at
the time of the polio vaccine development. In fact it
was at least as far back as the 30s, if not as early as
the start of the century when it jumped to humans. To
ignore current theories over speculation is folly.
(for the people who misunderstand the word theory.
Theory in science is required to be backed up by
evidence whether direct or indirect. So don't
misinterpret the word 'theory' with an 'idea').

Ask your self what you 'choose' to believe and
'why' you choose to believe it. In science you try
not to choose what you believe, you follow what ever
path that evidence points you to, whether or not its
what you want to hear.

For those of you 'conspiracy theorists', especially
those bringing up 9/11 on here, get a life. Stop
advertising your paranoia everywhere.

great doc really thought provoking .the evidence seems
overwhelming, i may sound very naive here and i dont
want to upset anyone .but why did the virus affect the
gay community in the late 70s through to the 90s.or was
this just a myth to pass the buck ,can somebody plz
enlighten me .great site keep up the good work .loved
the hillsborough docudrama too .posted by corsermac

How can we get a download of the high quality file? Are
you able to give a link to download the file?

thanks

The same corporations that "researched" the origins
of AIDS are under the same association that made the
AIDS Virus. Of course there will never be any evidence
of this documentary being true/false.
We simply have to put two and two together, if u cant
believe and its every ones individual right to believe
a lie.

In response to - Posted by Guest on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @
05:40am | #552
.
Perhaps you are to willing to accept anything that
supports your paranoid world view.

From Wikipedia -

"Data from molecular biology and phylogenetic studies
contradicts the OPV AIDS hypothesis; consequently, the
majority of the scientific community regards the
hypothesis as disproven,[1][2][3][4] with an article in
the journal Nature describing the hypothesis as
"refuted".[5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hooper

And

The OPV AIDS hypothesis has been examined and
criticized by members of the scientific and medical
communities as being unsupported or directly
contradicted by available data, and inconsistent with
HIV epidemiology. In October 1992, the journal
"Science" ran a story titled "Panel Nixes Congo
Vaccine as AIDS source," describing the findings of an
independent panel which found each proposed step in the
OPV-AIDS hypothesis "problematic".

In 2001, three articles published in "Nature"
examined various aspects of the OPV-AIDS hypothesis, as
did an article published in "Science". In every case,
the studies' findings argued strongly against any link
between the polio vaccine and AIDS.

http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/439205

Keep up Your excellent work, Mr.Hooper.
Do NOT fear the scumbag suers - as in "sewers" - of
Bush/Nixon
scientific trashcans Koprowski included. You will NOT
end gassed in
prison but will be thanked forever by millions
worldwide who still
follow scientific suicides - Jim Jones /Scientology/
Koprowski fashion
as a religious-myth belief.
After Michael Moore's "Sicko" which You should see
why not contact
Moore for a MUCH sharper docu based on Your book/s .And
then LET them
sue and PROVE 100% AGAINST what You already almost did
FOR.And get a
free worldwide ad hence thanks to these Dr.Mengele.
We salute You from Italy where we have our own
hellhound straight from
the Vatican .Ratzinger - ex-nazi now Pope - who
suggested the other
day that the best way to fight AIDS is not to use
condoms but
castity - this stated to Africans .For those innocent
bystanders :-
Ratzinger is the same holy guru who ignored and covered
up thousands
of priest rapes and abuse worldwide - now court cases -
while chief of
Propaganda Fede office - the same that run
Witch-burning and similar
in the good old days under the name of
Sant'Ufficio.
History repeats itself .

to the last commenter see cpnhelp.org

I have a 16 yr. old child with MS, after studying
nights and nights in the internet about the source I
found a site that was saying that a certain vaccination
serum against Heptite B is under research might causing
MS 15 yrs. ago. when will this all stop ?Vaccination is
good to our children, but against everything? When will
we start to ask questions?

It all makes sense.

i knew there was a connection with the Federal Gov't
and the Aids Pandemic. We live in a world full of
GREEDY people who use and abuse mankind like Cattle.
Making BIG profits at our expense. This is why the
BIBLE says mankind will destroy itself as time goes by.
Money + Power= Respect $$$$$$$$$$. But one thing I know
GOD sees all knows and will fix all one day.

This documentary has changed my view about the US
government. I'm shocked & ashamed !

gosh darn those monkey rooters

Many are not going to like what I am about to say but
the truth finally has to be told. Edward Hooper was
looking for the truth but like so many before him, when
looking for the truth you do not always find it in the
place you are looking. With the case of Mr. Hooper the
Belgium Congo was the right place to look he just
didn't know what he was looking for. Mr. Hooper thought
he was looking for a cause of a virus and by looking at
the work Dr. Hilary Kaprowski was doing instead of
looking directly at Dr. Kaprowski himself. Was Dr.
Kaprowski really looking for a cure for POLIO? Would
any doctor using an experimental drug inject over a
million people just to see if it would work with out
having a clue what it would do to the human body. How
did Dr. Kaprowski end up in the Belgium Congo in the
first place? What did he just pull that out of a hat or
was he specifically asked to go to the Congo for
another reason. What about the Belgium Congo? What
exactly is thier that might attract anyone to go thier.
I am about to answer these question in a way that
everyone can relate to.
First Dr. Hilary Kaprowski started in Poland as a
scientist during the invasion by Hilter. Now what we
know is that Hitler either jailed or killed every
scientist in Poland when he enter the country. Dr.
Kaprowski was spared the fate that the rest of his
colleage faced because his field of study which was
biology especially virology. Hitler had been looking
for a new weapon the kind that would kill humans and
leave thier resources intact. He thought he might find
it in Dr. Kaprowski. Now Dr. Kaprowski has said that
from Poland he went to Italy to study music but you can
not believe that because Italy was ruled by another
dictator which was Hitlers closes alie during WWII. Dr.
Kaprowski was waiting in Italy for Hitlers new laps to
be finished in South America which is where Dr.
Kaprowski went after Italy. The lab that Hitler
established in South America also had a American
finacial back known to many as Rockerfeller. Now during
this same time the American government was doing its
own research into a new weapon the same as Hitler. That
one virus that would kill everyone and leave thier
resources in tact. This research was being done in a
little known place called Tuskegee Alabama. Now the
American study like Hitler's turned no product out and
Dr. Kaprowski sat down in South America until one day
he received a call from the Wistar Institute in
Pennsylvania.
Now you have to look at the Wistar Institute and
what kind of work they were doing in the mid 1950d's.
This was a relatively small institute with few people
but they were doing something that intrest the US
Militay and that was virology. Now going back to the
Belgium Congo during this same time period. Why was the
Belgium government so desperate to hold on to the Congo
especially when the people thier want them out. It was
thier resources like DIAMONDS, GOLD, COOPER, ZINC and
of course "OIL". They were willing to do anything to
hold on to it. They went to the US Gov and asked them
was there anything that the Americans could do for them
about this problem. The Belgiums knew about what the US
Gov. did to the Blackfeet Indians in thier own country
and how successful that was. Now going back to the
Wistar Institute during this time they were having
finacial problems and were on the firge of bankruptcy
when they received a call from the CIA asking what
could they do about this problem in the Belgium Congo
and that is where Dr. Kaprowski comes in. An individual
heard about his work in South America and sent for him.
The strange thing about that is that they made Dr.
Kaprowski in charge of the entire institute and with a
hefty injection of funds from the CIA sent Dr.
Kaprowski to the Belgium Congo. The rest is history or
is it.
Once Dr. Kaprowski found the virus in champanzees
and developed the sirum he sent that same sirum back to
the United States to be housed at the Institute for
later use.

Also here is an press briefing given by Ed Hooper in
1999.

http://tinyurl.com/6yo2xz

Tried to view video but would not play.

At first, before I watched the documentary, I thought
it was going to be some implausible conspiracy theory,
but it really made me think, especially because
Koprowski never gives a clear explanation about how or
what.
My opinion about the autopsion of the monkeys is that
it's sick, even if it's for a scientific purpose.
I will definitely look up some more things about this
theory before I make my final conclusion. Will we ever
know?

To respond to RONSFI's earlier post, those studies
which used computer models to estimate the introduction
of HIV into the human population are not worth the
paper they are printed on. Look it up, SIV and HIV are
retroviruses which means that they do not evolve via
simple mutations. Rather, most of the genetic variation
and change comes from re-combination. Please read
http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/document
s/AIDS/Hooper04/Hooper04refute.html and educate
yourself.

To the person asking why the U.S invests money in AIDS
and HIV research, please educate yourself before making
disgusting and ignorant comments that many people can
read. AIDS and HIV are worldwide diseases, not just
African ones.

ummm to the perdon who said we should let all the peole
with AIDS die... whats wrong with you? I mean dude
thats like saying we should let the people with cancer
die. or hell lets go with the movie and say those with
polio or any life threatening desease. you can only get
AIDS FROM BEING IN CONTACT WITH THE INFECTED PERSONS
BLOOD. Why are you being so cruel?

A 1998 analysis of the plasma sample from 1959
suggested that HIV-1 was introduced into humans around
the 1940s or the early 1950s.13

In January 2000, the results of a new study14 suggested
that the first case of HIV-1 infection occurred around
1931 in West Africa. This estimate (which had a 15 year
margin of error) was based on a complex computer model
of HIV's evolution.

However, a study in 2008 dated the origin of HIV to
between 1884 and 1924, much earlier than previous
estimates. The researchers compared the viral sequence
from 1959 (the oldest known HIV-1 specimen) to the
newly discovered sequence from 1960. They found a
significant genetic difference between them,
demonstrating diversification of HIV-1 occurred long
before the AIDS pandemic was recognised.

http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

There ARE millions of people out there who are infected
and have never had sex or a transfusion,they are the
children being born everyday with this disease.
this documentary comes as a shock but not, unfortunatly
a surprise...

If any of this was true there would be millions of
people infected who havent had sex or a tranfusion.
There would be people walking around who havent got a
clue how they contracted it... does anyone know of any
cases like this???

I have faith that many truths will reveal themselves in
time. The worst kind of lie is one that is half true.
This makes it all the more difficult to dissern truth
from deception. Nietche writes "the wasteland grows,
woe to him who holds wastelands within." We must rid
our mind of the propoganda, tv, and garbage. It is then
that the wasteland will cease to grow.

The African population dont even realise how AIDS is
contracted or how to prevent it.

They dont have the luxury of watching people die of
AIDS on CNN. They watch their communities die and have
no idea why.

I'm not sure any company is even interested in finding
a vaccine as people with AIDS pay a lot of money around
the world for meds to control there symptoms. I'm sure
medical company's would prefer to sell you tablets that
you need to take everyday for the rest of your life
instead of a once off vaccine. Ending a good product
that has a long life span doesn?t make medical
company's profit and after all that?s all they want.

I totally agree with you!!!! There is something
seriously wrong you!!! You are the idiot dude. Why are
you evening watching documentaries that are based on
African citizen's in regards to AIDS if according to
you they are idiots???? Yes everyone does die, but
there is quite a difference in natural death or say
death by accident, then the act of intentionally
causing genocide upon an entire society, culture,
community and ethnicity of people!!! Quit wasting our
time and yours and go back to the main stream,
stereotypical world that you are clearly a product off.
"Its a mister like you that put the rest of us to
shame."

To #516
Something is seriously wrong with you.

How 'bout instead of the US wasting money it doesn't
have to research and "save" the idiots in Africa, they
stand back and let the people with AIDS die? Everybody
dies, no more AIDS.
Giving these people medicine to prolong their life just
means they have more time to spread it to more people.

i love this goverment exposings stuff,they are evil
people that run this world,i do believe aids was
created to mainly kill the african population,it all
connects.Just type illuminati,free mason,david
rockerfeller and check the truth about 9/11.The
goverment are killing yet more people for profit,we are
nothing more than cusumer cattle to them

Thanks for posting this documentary. I saw part of it
several years ago on Sundance, I believe, and have
wanted to see it again. It is so hard to believe the
cruelty to humankind in the name of science or was it
on purpose to destroy the African continent-perhaps too
rich in resources?

the posting is down. please find the content. also,
what has become of the producers/directors of this
documentary? are they safe?

I suspected from the begining, since 1980s, that
possibility; that AIDs was a product of an experiment
in a laboratory. Many people are igoring and submmited
to the believe that it was an sexual-intercorse with
chimps and human been, but now we can unmaskareate that
mitto and research the tru for finding a solution,
finding a antidote to stop this desease wich is killing
millions of brothers and sister, children and adults
around the world, beyond the expectation of the first
plan of those scintific who were working in the
customized of this virus.

Everyday I get older, with every new piece of
information I find, I realized that America is ran by
greedy corporations that care only about profit. With
the war in Iraq and Dick Chaney's involvement with it,
America's retarted Health Care System, and now this,
I'm more and more ashamed to be a human by the day.

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we all know they had sex with monkeys

How can people sleep at night knowing they created a
virus that has killed and will continue to kill
millions of people? It also makes me sad to see those
monkeys being used in the experiment. ugh. This is only
one out of millions of things we don't know of in this
world, but I still have hope and I hope other people
will not be disillusioned by things like these but
rather try to make a difference and learn from mistakes
others have made. Hence why we should know the truth so
we're not ignorant and make the same mistakes others
have made in that past, but of course the truth is far
from what we will be getting, guess we're just going to
have to keep waiting for courageous people to unravel
the truth for us. And to you I say Thank You!

in response to #438's post:

while i found some of your thoughts interesting, you're
dead wrong on two counts that i simply must correct
lest someone else read it and believe it. first of
all, mosquitoes CANNOT give you HIV. it's a
human-to-human virus. second of all, condoms DO
protect against HIV. not 100% (nothing is 100%), but
they are really the ONLY way to reduce the risk of
contracting HIV sexually. so please, get your facts
straight before you perpetuate misleading
information.

that said, i found this documentary extremely
intriguing. i've worked in HIV/AIDS education for
years and have never found a satisfying answer as to
the origins of it. i am an extremely critical thinker,
so i will need to mull this over for awhile (and
possibly read the book "the river" as well), but this
seems more plausible an explanation than most i've
read. and also a sad one. it breaks my heart to think
that this could have and should have been prevented
from ever coming into existence. *sigh*

"DID YOU SEE HIS EYES" HIS LIEING

Interesting! I would love to hear the other sides
defense to these accusations.

i guess the rev wright was right about the aids
virus.....i hate being white man in america .....we
have a history of putting other people down for our
evil doings...i'm not like that hate for what my
ancestors did to other people... there is not a enough
money in the world to pay back we did to the other
nonwhite races...i probably did't commit those hideous
crimes but i reap the benefit of them... but we as a
people of races can make a better future

The strecker menorandum, story begins in 1983 with Dr.
Robert B. Strecker, MD,Phd. Strecker practices internal
medicine and gastroenterology in Los Angeles.He is a
trained pathologist and holds a nPhD. in Pharmacologe.
Dr. Strecker and his brother, Ted, an attorney, were
preparing a proposal for a health maintenance
orgaization (HMO) for the Security Pacific Bank of
California.
They needed to know the long-term financial effects of
insuring and treating AIDS patients. This information
was not readily available in 1983. Both brothers began
researching.5 years of documention called "The
Bio-Attack Alert." They found scientists writing in
the BULLETIN of the World Health Organization were
actually requesting that AIDS-like viruses be created
to study the effects on humans.Streckers unearthed
thousands of documents all supporting the man-made
origin of AIDS. Meanwhile, the government was telling
everyone that a green monkey in Africa bit some native
and started AIDS. As their research continued, it
became obvious from the documentation that the virus
itself was not only created as requested, but actually
DEPLOYED,and now threatens the existence of mankind
because it does what it was designed to do.To give you
cancer. The truth of the matter AIDS IS A MAN MADE
DISEASE, it is not a homosexual disease,not a venereal
disease, AIDS can be carried by mosquitoes, condoms
will not prevent AIDS. There are at least six different
AIDS viruses loose in the world.Of all the body fluids
that the AIDS virus is found in, seman contins the
least. This is substantiated in the medical
literature.The fact that we are not being told the
truth by the government or the so-called AIDS experts.

The media, for reasons of their own, will not present
information contradictiing the official propaganda,who
are the same people who gave us brain cancer (SV-40
virus)as a result of their contaminated polio vaccines
in the early 1960's; a polio-like disease from their
contaminated Swine Flu vaccines in the 1970's and AIDS
from their smallpox and hepatitis B. All of this
information is documented in the records of ours US
Congress."The Bio-Attack Alert" tape was sent to every
Govenor of every state, the President, the
vice-president, the FBI,the CIA,the NSA and selected
members of Cogress.
An ominous personal aspect of this story is the sudden
and unexpected deaths of the two key players. Ted
Strecker was found shot to death in his home in
Springfield, Missouri.
Next Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of
Chicago. Huff did everything in his power to make the
people of Chicago aware of Dr. Strecker's work, he was
also found dead in his home.Be bold and mighty forces
will come to your aid--or mighty forces will come and
kill you.

This really needs to be Oprah or ANY form of mass
media...the UK is extremely more liberal in terms of
what they are willing to investagate and how they
publicize their findings....Damn *sigh*

Where can we get the 90 minutes version? the google
video is down. Help anyone?

Europeans are guily of so many crimes against humanity
they accept the fame but in turn hide from blame ! when
are we going to stop the hate of our brother regardless
the skin your in. let us try to build a world of We and
not just me me me. thought of the day :if the world was
invaded by aliens do you think skin color would mater
then ? peace and love brothers and sisters. Bilal x

fine

for the love of money, test a vaccine on millions of
poor people, become rich in other countries, a hero,
very tempting, virus backfires a disease thats in
chimps is passed on to humans, the rest is history, the
problem to huge to shameful noone held acountable, GOD
knows and will be the judge GODS knows what happened,
millions of people , millions of african people who in
those days white people i know didnt care about them
enogh to go and vaccinate, they were experimenting and
it back fired!!!

watching this actually makes me want to go and research
on SIV and the similarities between HIV/AIDs. Its just
sad how they would rather discredit these claims rather
than prove them wrong by recreating the experiment to
prove it was not possible even with modern day
technology..(all taken place in a monitored environment
of course)...

i always thought man creating aids was another
conspiracy theorie.but the arrogance of the interviewed
scientist definetly gives the impression that "the hard
evidence" has been carefully selected.fuuny the
corralation and vaccination and discory of h.i.v.seems
like the scientists are trying to hide behind thier
hard earned qualifications rather than admit to making
a catashrophe and what about <excuse the spelling
> kiprowski saying that he didnt use to the types of
monkey that he clearly had pictures of in his
facility.
im no rocket scientist but hey my eyes tell me that
aids is a man made plague unleashed upon africa to
create economic and a health crisis for many many years
to come
thanks for ruining my day guys .makes me wonder if
there is compassion for one another in this world or
should we just destroy human kind now to save the heart
ache and pain.
myspace/feltronium

What are your thoughts on the use of animals as
experiment specimens and do you think that it was
justified?

(please send in your thoughts)

It is possible that the AIDS was originated in Africa
from the polio-vaccinacy campaign, because we can see
that many sources have supported and claimed and some
scientists may have agreed with it. It is rude to do
something but do not want to take responsibility. At
least, whether finally Dr.Koprowski has been either
arrested or evidently wrong, I now realize that even
science has been used to reach popularity instead of
managing and developing world. Looking for its problems
lengthened to the court of debates, I can see that
nothing can be totally believed. Wherever, whenever,
from whatever, or caused by whoever AIDS was, it has
spread and spread, so what we have to do now is to
prevent any other spread and find the way to cure it
instead of debating who is wrong and who is right.

sad & scandalous
this gives once more proof of the arrogance and the
unscrupulous behaviour of the so-called developed
world

Well, I must say that my critical studies in sexuality
class textbook needs to re-consider a few sentences
explaining the beginning of HIV/AIDS was when a man
"hooked up" with a monkey. There goes my 90 bucks and
trust in mankind...

no comment

If you ave questions about this issue you should look
for a book called "Dr.Mary's Monkey" by Edward Haslam.
It details the Pollio Vaccine program and the political
undercurrents at the time and it gives several other
sources for verification. The author's father was
involved with other's who were involved and he has gone
to extensive lenghts to detail the issues surrounding
it. I highly recommend you read this book before you
dismiss this issue. There have been several other Dr.s
that have exposed this as truth.

For many years I have looked into this question. How
did this epidemic start? And why did it occur only
recently? It's not hard to find published articles of
experts asking the same thing. They come up with some
good possibilities and critical perspective on the
matter. None of which bodes well for those who promote
the natural origin theory. Strange how only a one sided
view came out in the public media. The aforementioned
experts, using good common sense, wrote that something
happened in the mid-20th century that didn't happen
before. For centuries, many people were brought to
this country (U.S.) from the same areas of Africa that
are now known as the geographic origin of the epidemic
in humans. No epidemic in the US before mid-20th
century. The pygmies who hunt and eat chimps for what
must be hundreds if not thousands of years. No epidemic
among them. Other scientists studied data gathered of
STD rates in Africa during the times in question
revealing that the virus far outpaced STDs rates in the
population, even though STDs are far more
transmissible. What else could have helped AIDS spread
so well? For myself I ask, how do you NOT notice an
AIDS epidemic raging in Africa by what must have been
tens of millions by the time it was noticed in U.S.
gays? The way I see it the natural origin theory
doesn't compare well against the inconvenient facts
that are there if you look. The critical step of
adaptation to human tissue of some ancestral virus
seems to be key. Simply contacting human tissue
evidently wasn't enough because that was happening for
a very long time before the epidemic started. I do not
accept the notion that people were much more reserved
sexually in the past than now thereby stopping supposed
past HIV epidemics from starting. After all, if you
look I think you'll find even Victorian England wasn't
that 'Victorian' if you get my drift, especially on the
high seas! Less so for anyone else, for eons.

karma will find those responsible

You're right, I haven't done my homework because I
don't want to waste anymore time on this stupid idea.
There is no hard evidence, just coincidence. I have
some videos about the JFK conspiracy, Roswell, 9/11
being planned by Americans, and Hitler and Elvis still
being alive you should see. Do you not find it sad that
he devoted 20 years for what? You know Ebola first
appeared in the same area of Africa and is a new
disease so I assume he is responsible for that, too.

#318 #314 AKA THE LAWYER
Clearly you haven't done your homework,
Also this is a 45 minute doc which is the shortened
version (original is 90 minutes). This follows a 20
year investigation by Ed Hooper, who also wrote 'The
River', you might like to familiarize yourself with the
evidence before you prepare your defense.
To set the record straight, this is not an exercise in
finding someone to blame, rather to find the truth.
That Koprowski is implicated as the cause, is rather
secondary to the facts. You see 'we go by evidence' and
the evidence overwhelmingly puts Koprowski at the
center of this epidemic.

http://www.aidsorigins.com/pdfs/lincei/hooper03.pdf

So you are ready to convict this guy based on a
20-minute video of very specious arguments and
circumstantial evidence? The stuff about how the
monkeys were treated and how the people were forced (by
the govt, not by the scientist) to be vaccinated was
just to destroy his character and give credence to the
preposterous idea. Isn't it strange that supposedly 1
million people were vaccinated, yet they only found
once case of AIDS during that time period? And yes, I
am a lawyer. I hope you never sit on a jury.

#314
What a well thought-out argument you made! You should
be a lawyer and go and save the reputation of the
guilty scientist who most likely caused the worst
epidemic in mankind's history?

This was so stupid! Even if it could be proven that
chimps were used and proven that those chimps had SIDS,
that still doesn't prove that that is how AIDS started!
Each faulty presumption is riddled with holes. Can they
even prove that the "virus X" was SIDS? Granted, the
testing was horrible and the torture of monkeys was
horrible, but that doesn't prove anything! Think of all
the time and effort all of those scientists put into
this investigation. Why don't they instead use all
their time and resources helping to find a cure for
AIDS instead of trying to blame some guy who spent his
life trying to save children? What saddens me the most
is that I won't get back the last 30 minutes of my life
from that waste of a film.

You can watch this in English on YouTube / Google
Video:

this is just a glimp of what the Lobby is capable of,
if the masse knew the whole truth, the number of
suicides would double in the whole world cause everyone
would have the feeling of living in a lie (wich is
true)

this is crazy but true

An absolutely horrible situation.

Situation born out of cannibalism. From humans killing
eating another very closely related primate. Or using
that very closely related primate as a substrate, which
is not quite as quick as eating, but still very much
cannibalism.

I would be very interested to know how you get on
buying the dvd. At the bottom of this page is a link to
Hoopers site, there are details about the DVD. At one
point it was impossible to buy (almost) after a lot of
fuss some of the hoops were removed. I would be
interested to know how it goes for you.

Yes It would be the 90 minute version on DVD.

agentbleu
admin

I first saw it on the Sundance channel. At least that
was the 90min version. And thank you for answering my
question about the two different english versions!!
It's strange that people are going to such lengths to
get rid of this movie... To me it's almost like a
silent confession of guilt. If i buy the DVD will that
have the 90min version?

This should be shown in every nation and broadcasting
system in the world man.

somehow even either the slightest background in
hiv/aids knowledge helps fill in the gaps and
ENLIGHTENS.

the full version is a must see

To get the full length version is a little tough, as is
getting to see this version. There is a battle being
waged in the background by the legal teams working on
behalf of Koprowski, which is also I suspect supported
by many in the scientific community to bury this
documentary. We have been attacked for hosting this
doc, as has many others since. Sometimes people who
have copies post it on other sites, where it lasts for
a few weeks at most. If you send your email to us at
the contact us link above, we will let you know if we
see it about...

This movie needs to be seen by many more people. I've
heard many imagined causes and theories from religious
and political "experts" and this documentary completely
shuts down their phoney rants. How do we get the full
length version?

yes there is a long 90 minute version that is more
detailed, (the 90 minute version is linked (in french)
from this site. This is the 45 minute version edited
and shown in Canada. Since then the film producers have
sold rights, and now it is Path? who 'own' rights.
Path? does not distribute its own product on DVD.
Rather, other distributors release Path?'s product
(such as 20th Century Fox in the UK). In June of 1999
Path? merged with Vivendi, who then sold out it seems
to NBC.

Im not sure what this means, but one thing is clear,
those interests that produced the documentary have no
say in its distribution which is now controlled by much
larger players with very different motives and
allegiances.

its up again!

It won't play.

very interesting

this really doesn't surprise me...
Unfortunately millions will continue to
die while the scientific community denies
its biggest tragedy..and then again we
we have realize that by denying the
origins of HIV/AIDS, they are ultimately
denying a cure....how the hell are we
supposed to find a cure if scientist
cannot be truthful of it's origins???
And once again 'we' AFRICANS are at the
receiving end..

i knew there was always something weird about HIV/AIDS

wow just wow its sad things had to happen like that..

#253

it is clear that your in depth analysis gets right to
the core of the claims made and further with the airy
wave of an intravenus needle you manage to completely
undermine the 'total nonsense' so articulately.

But in future you should also let people know of your
credentials, and in this case I am happy to help
provide some light on these. Your IP address
146.96.80.216 which is registered to

http://www.gc.cuny.edu/

If anyone knew how well trained you are with your
'Doctoral Certificate Programs' they surely would take
your words as 'gospel'.

Why who needs to think when we have people like you who
so willing to guide us?

This is complete and utter bullshit from the begining -
maybe Reagan ignored it - but no one since then has.
Thats a total lie!

i admire the courage you hosts have to re post this
documentary. if it weren't for you and your audacity
the curious youth of today will never know what
happened. i intend to spread the word high and mighty.
thankyou knowledge is contagious

to Guest on Friday, 07.20.07 @ 08:43am | #250 i am 100%
with you apart for your point regarding that "WE"
created all our world technologies because ive seen
indisputable evidence that we were "given" the
technology in one form or another from humanoid beings
along long long LONG time ago

we created the nuclear power and any kind of technology
object you can imagine, landed on the moon. why is so
hard to believe that we created te AIDS too?????

can this documentary be downloaded? If the concern is
that legal teams are forcing it off individual
websites, allow viewers to download it thereby making
it more readily available and effectively taking the
wind out of many legal actions.

Same reason doctors automatically prescribe drugs for
any symptom you'll give them, same reason nobody ever
hears of the disgustingly harmful side-effects that go
with every drug, same reason cigarette companies are
often owned by drug companies. It's all about who has
the most money, and of course the people who are
'curing' everybody are so in demand that nobody would
question their methods or complain about their prices.

great documentary that begs the question, why are
Africans having to pay for drugs at all considering it
was pharmaceutical companies that were responsible?

I saw this doc on IFC by sheer chance two years ago and
was unable to look away while it was playing! I have
been waiting for its release ever since. It is now
available at www.nfb.ca for a mere $195.00. After I saw
the film, I bought Hooper's book "The River" and
couldn't put it down. This is a chilling slant on the
AIDS crisis that needs to be fully investigated by a
medical community that seems totally committed to
supressing it.

On the official Edward Hooper site you can read more
about the behind the scenes action here:

http://www.aidsorigins.com/content/view/200/28/

and it makes 'very interesting reading'.

I REALLY want to see this doc!! Anyone interested in
reading a totally appalling account by Captain Joyce
Riley (RN)who served during Gulf War and her
discoveries of biological warfare on US military
members...provides more clues as to who(that includes
WHO)is responsible for this and other vaccination
abominations and what their agenda is.
http://www.all-natural.com/riley.html
also Dr. Lorraine Day sheds light on the true origins
of the "spanish flu", aka Black Death of 1918, which
has been cited as fear fuel for the Bird Flu hoax,
currently.