Whoa whoa whoa: "In August, Brazilian-born Dinamo midfielder Sammir was fined 270,000 euros for partying in a Zagreb night club on the eve of a Champions League qualifying match against Moldovan side Sheriff Tiraspol."

Well, I guess our leagues having dress codes for before/after games and the $15,000 fines don't seem so draconian now.

The Muthaship:In before...some of the world's best beers come in cans. It protects beer from damaging light....or some such drivel.

I spoke to a friend-of-a-friend recently who works for Brooklyn Brewery. The reason most microbrews don't use cans is very simple -- because it's a lot more expensive than bottling. Brooklyn Brewery is starting to can their stuff, by the way, although I haven't seen any sold in any of the stores I've been to yet.

Arkanaut:The reason most microbrews don't use cans is very simple -- because it's a lot more expensive than bottling

Perhaps in the initial switch-over from bottling to a canning set-up, but in the long run is is MUCH cheaper.Cans require less packagingCans are cheaper than glassCans cool more quickly saving energy costsYou can transport more cans in the same amount of space saving transportation costsCans are the easiest to recycleCans don't breakCans block light completely preventing skunked beer (with higher hop contents, this is relevant)

As an avid home brewer I tried to look into ways to can at home. But I'm just as happy with bottles right now; if you tell your friends they get free home brew if they bring you their empties, it works out pretty damn well.

AntonChigger:Bruxellensis: AntonChigger: bangmaid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Cans are actually all the rage now in beer snobbery.

Because cans are actually better for the quality of the beer. Of course, it should always be poured into a glass.

Preferably a frozen one

Um, no. That would defeat the purpose of pouring it into a glass at all.

Which is what?

Few reasons. Mostly because sipping from an aluminum can brings the metallic smell into the flavor experience (the outside of the can and the tab isn't coated like the inside). Second, pouring into a glass allows the beer aromas to add to the flavor of the beer (smell is a huge part of taste). If you sip from a beer that's too cold (i.e. poured into a frozen glass), you are inhibiting the aromatics of the beer, and limiting the flavor you get from said beer. Not to mention adding water to your beer by the melting frost isn't very appealing if you paid high dollar for your beer.

I should ask you the same thing. For what purpose do you pour into a frozen glass?

Bruxellensis:AntonChigger: Bruxellensis: AntonChigger: bangmaid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Cans are actually all the rage now in beer snobbery.

Because cans are actually better for the quality of the beer. Of course, it should always be poured into a glass.

Preferably a frozen one

Um, no. That would defeat the purpose of pouring it into a glass at all.

Which is what?

Few reasons. Mostly because sipping from an aluminum can brings the metallic smell into the flavor experience (the outside of the can and the tab isn't coated like the inside). Second, pouring into a glass allows the beer aromas to add to the flavor of the beer (smell is a huge part of taste). If you sip from a beer that's too cold (i.e. poured into a frozen glass), you are inhibiting the aromatics of the beer, and limiting the flavor you get from said beer. Not to mention adding water to your beer by the melting frost isn't very appealing if you paid high dollar for your beer.

I should ask you the same thing. For what purpose do you pour into a frozen glass?

Because I enjoy an ice cold glass with an ice cold beer on a hot day?

NASAM:AntonChigger: bangmaid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Cans are actually all the rage now in beer snobbery.

Because cans are actually better for the quality of the beer. Of course, it should always be poured into a glass.

Preferably a frozen one

Dear lord no.

I get PISSED when I order a good craft beer and some dipshiat, wet-behind- the- ears bartender pours it into a frozen glass.

AntonChigger:Bruxellensis: AntonChigger: Bruxellensis: AntonChigger: bangmaid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Cans are actually all the rage now in beer snobbery.

Because cans are actually better for the quality of the beer. Of course, it should always be poured into a glass.

Preferably a frozen one

Um, no. That would defeat the purpose of pouring it into a glass at all.

Which is what?

Few reasons. Mostly because sipping from an aluminum can brings the metallic smell into the flavor experience (the outside of the can and the tab isn't coated like the inside). Second, pouring into a glass allows the beer aromas to add to the flavor of the beer (smell is a huge part of taste). If you sip from a beer that's too cold (i.e. poured into a frozen glass), you are inhibiting the aromatics of the beer, and limiting the flavor you get from said beer. Not to mention adding water to your beer by the melting frost isn't very appealing if you paid high dollar for your beer.

I should ask you the same thing. For what purpose do you pour into a frozen glass?

Because I enjoy an ice cold glass with an ice cold beer carbonated beverage on a hot day?

Taste, like most chemical reactions, increases with temperature. Don't like the taste of that beer too much? Drink it cold (think: as cold as the rockies...). If I want a frigidly cold beverage, I get pop or lemonade with ice and/or in a cold glass. If I want to enjoy a good beer, I drink it at the proper temperature. But, hey, to each his own, eh? I won't tell you how to enjoy your beer, but I can ask you to just try it at the proper temperature just once? If you don't like it, go back to the way you were drinking it before. Deal?

Because cans are actually better for the quality of the beer. Of course, it should always be poured into a glass.

Preferably a frozen one

Um, no. That would defeat the purpose of pouring it into a glass at all.

Which is what?

Few reasons. Mostly because sipping from an aluminum can brings the metallic smell into the flavor experience (the outside of the can and the tab isn't coated like the inside). Second, pouring into a glass allows the beer aromas to add to the flavor of the beer (smell is a huge part of taste). If you sip from a beer that's too cold (i.e. poured into a frozen glass), you are inhibiting the aromatics of the beer, and limiting the flavor you get from said beer. Not to mention adding water to your beer by the melting frost isn't very appealing if you paid high dollar for your beer.

I should ask you the same thing. For what purpose do you pour into a frozen glass?

Because I enjoy an ice cold glass with an ice cold beer carbonated beverage on a hot day?

Taste, like most chemical reactions, increases with temperature. Don't like the taste of that beer too much? Drink it cold (think: as cold as the rockies...). If I want a frigidly cold beverage, I get pop or lemonade with ice and/or in a cold glass. If I want to enjoy a good beer, I drink it at the proper temperature. But, hey, to each his own, eh? I won't tell you how to enjoy your beer, but I can ask you to just try it at the proper temperature just once? If you don't like it, go back to the way you were drinking it before. Deal?

I found this beer 2 years ago and bought some to take on a beach trip, and I thought it was great. Now each time I go to the grocery store there is a beer I already liked getting canned. Sierra Nevada has the Torpedo in cans near me, and I also saw some Ranger IPA from New Belgium in cans. Earlier this week, while on the road for work, I found something called "Bengali Tiger" from Sixpoint Craft Brews which I had never heard of. It was delicious.

/Sides with the frozen mug crowd, because assuming you aren't drinking in an igloo, the beer and glass will warm over time, so by starting at a slightly colder-than-ideal temperature it gradually warms into, and through, that perfect temp range (YMMV), in order to guarantee maximum beer in the ideal environment.//Also wants a homebrew canning system

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food:/Sides with the frozen mug crowd, because assuming you aren't drinking in an igloo, the beer and glass will warm over time, so by starting at a slightly colder-than-ideal temperature it gradually warms into, and through, that perfect temp range (YMMV), in order to guarantee maximum beer in the ideal environment.

Magic hat number nine is now in cans. Beach season was 100 times better this year.

Do want some!

No kidding. If you take bottles to the beach, you're an asshole. That said, when you're at the bar, drink beer out of whatever the hell you damn well please. Personally, when I'm at the bar, I prefer to drink drafts of craft beer. Why? Because if I wanted them in bottles or cans, I could buy it at the grocery store, and drink it at home.

IAmRight:Whoa whoa whoa: "In August, Brazilian-born Dinamo midfielder Sammir was fined 270,000 euros for partying in a Zagreb night club on the eve of a Champions League qualifying match against Moldovan side Sheriff Tiraspol."

Well, I guess our leagues having dress codes for before/after games and the $15,000 fines don't seem so draconian now.

This would be like an NFL team's running back partying in Manhattan all night the evening before an afternoon playoff game, quite a bit worse than just dress code.