- Retired NBA star of Bulls' lore- Playing against an alien culture- In an alien territory- Rag tag bunch of teammates- Evil dictator overseeing the opposition- The opposition secretly longs to blast their leader to another planet and escape

Champion of the Sun:I love NK. Someone pointed out in a thread yesterday that you can't tell if the stories coming out of there are pro NK propaganda put out by NK or anti NK propaganda out out by the west.

And turning down money to play for a dictator isn't going to save any lives or help anyone, grab those stacks.

Champion of the Sun:I love NK. Someone pointed out in a thread yesterday that you can't tell if the stories coming out of there are pro NK propaganda put out by NK or anti NK propaganda out out by the west.

One of these days the regime will fall and we'll find out that all the people outside Pyongyang died long ago. He wasn't starving his peasants because there weren't any peasants left to starve!

Gosling:So.... Rodman had a meltdown on CNN this morning when Chris Cuomo asked him about Kenneth Bae.

I think he might actually be siding with North Korea over the US now. One of these days he's gonna go over there and he's just going to decide to not come back.

I think he doesn't want himself and 50 of his friends imprisoned as political prisoners because he mouthed off about Kenneth Bae on worldwide TV. IIRC, he goes off on how there are a bunch of americans there, which sounds ridiculous and unrelated - except the interviewer is setting him up to insult/question the N Korean gov't while there are dozens of americans there for this basketball thing that he'd be putting in jeopardy of he decided to go political and paint N Korea in a bad light.

I agree the Rodman is a dumbass for embarking on this whole "basketball diplomacy" thing, and especially for dragging other people into it, but I don't fault him for dodging the Bae question. I do fault the interviewer for trying to get him to answer it, knowing fully what the consequences could be if he got the answer he wanted.

Shame Us:Gosling: So.... Rodman had a meltdown on CNN this morning when Chris Cuomo asked him about Kenneth Bae.

I think he might actually be siding with North Korea over the US now. One of these days he's gonna go over there and he's just going to decide to not come back.

I think he doesn't want himself and 50 of his friends imprisoned as political prisoners because he mouthed off about Kenneth Bae on worldwide TV. IIRC, he goes off on how there are a bunch of americans there, which sounds ridiculous and unrelated - except the interviewer is setting him up to insult/question the N Korean gov't while there are dozens of americans there for this basketball thing that he'd be putting in jeopardy of he decided to go political and paint N Korea in a bad light.

I agree the Rodman is a dumbass for embarking on this whole "basketball diplomacy" thing, and especially for dragging other people into it, but I don't fault him for dodging the Bae question. I do fault the interviewer for trying to get him to answer it, knowing fully what the consequences could be if he got the answer he wanted.

He didn't dodge it, though. He basically said Bae got what he deserved.

/Expected to find a Fark thread about the Cuomo interview of Rodman, actually. It would probably be funny.

keypusher:Shame Us: Gosling: So.... Rodman had a meltdown on CNN this morning when Chris Cuomo asked him about Kenneth Bae.

I think he might actually be siding with North Korea over the US now. One of these days he's gonna go over there and he's just going to decide to not come back.

I think he doesn't want himself and 50 of his friends imprisoned as political prisoners because he mouthed off about Kenneth Bae on worldwide TV. IIRC, he goes off on how there are a bunch of americans there, which sounds ridiculous and unrelated - except the interviewer is setting him up to insult/question the N Korean gov't while there are dozens of americans there for this basketball thing that he'd be putting in jeopardy of he decided to go political and paint N Korea in a bad light.

I agree the Rodman is a dumbass for embarking on this whole "basketball diplomacy" thing, and especially for dragging other people into it, but I don't fault him for dodging the Bae question. I do fault the interviewer for trying to get him to answer it, knowing fully what the consequences could be if he got the answer he wanted.

He didn't dodge it, though. He basically said Bae got what he deserved.

/Expected to find a Fark thread about the Cuomo interview of Rodman, actually. It would probably be funny.

keypusher:He didn't dodge it, though. He basically said Bae got what he deserved.

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"

Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"

Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"

Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"

Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."

Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"

My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

Shame Us:keypusher: He didn't dodge it, though. He basically said Bae got what he deserved.

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

Dafatone:Shame Us: keypusher: He didn't dodge it, though. He basically said Bae got what he deserved.

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

What he should have done is say something noncommittal such as 'well, that wasn't the goal of the trip'. What Rodman did was basically accuse Bae of being guilty of... whatever.

Which is how Bae's family is taking his comments, how Jay Carney is taking his comments, how Bill Richardson is taking his comments, and just generally Rodman is going to have to start worrying about hanging onto his passport when he gets home because I don't think the administration is keen on having him go over there again.

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

Yeah, everything I see about this suggests that Rodman actually has a pretty good idea of what he's doing.

Which is maybe hard to believe. But Rodman's always been a pretty savvy, if not ridiculous, media figure.

This. Rodman handled it like he should've.

You have to be kidding me, right? If you (Rodman and his buddies) willingly goes to a lunatic country that pretty much no one else in the world likes, don't expect others to bend over backwards to act all nice to that country just so you doesn't go to jail there. Fark that. You go to NK, you risk getting thrown in the slammer, and we shouldn't pussy-foot around discussing what a crappy place it is. Like you shouldn't expect those questions when you go to NK. Don't want to answer them? How about don't go.

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

Because that's what you have to say while "government representatives" are in the room and you know that no matter what you do or where you go, you are being watched/recorded. He goes off on the interviewer for asking the question later.

Cuomo: "Are you going to take an opportunity if you get it, to speak up for the family of Kenneth Bae and to say - 'Let us know why this man is being held. That this is wrong, that he is sick.'"Rodman: "The one thing about politics. Kenneth Bae did one thing. If you understand what Kenneth Bae did. Do you understand what he did in this country?"Cuomo: "What did he do? You tell me?"Rodman: "No, no, no! You tell me! You tell me! Why is he held captive?!"Cuomo: "They haven't released any reason."Rodman: "You got 10 guys here that have left their families, left their damn families to help this country in a sports venture. You've got ten guys, all these guys here. Does anyone understand that?"My point is that that last bit there is indicating that "Hey, there are a bunch of Americans here. Stop trying to get me to say shiat that will jeopardize them."

Yeah, everything I see about this suggests that Rodman actually has a pretty good idea of what he's doing.

Which is maybe hard to believe. But Rodman's always been a pretty savvy, if not ridiculous, media figure.

This. Rodman handled it like he should've.

You have to be kidding me, right? If you (Rodman and his buddies) willingly goes to a lunatic country that pretty much no one else in the world likes, don't expect others to bend over backwards to act all nice to that country just so you doesn't go to jail there. Fark that. You go to NK, you risk getting thrown in the slammer, and we shouldn't pussy-foot around discussing what a crappy place it is. Like you shouldn't expect t ...

You do realize the U.S. Government and U.S. Media put out as much, if not more false propaganda about NK than NK does about itself? Thousands of people (including Americans) visit MK yearly and leave in peace.. They have laws.. Follow them.. Yes, they have some very harsh capital punishment laws. So do other countries... Other countries the U.S. is buddy buddy with.. Hell, U.S. is practically getting blowjobs from Iran at this point who do the same shiat NK does and even have some Americans in jails.. Where is the outrage? Ohhh, that's right.. Iran is convienent right now and NK is just in the way still..

Rodman may not have the most articulate way of speaking but he isn't a dummy and is playing this like a pro..

styckx:You do realize the U.S. Government and U.S. Media put out as much, if not more false propaganda about NK than NK does about itself? Thousands of people (including Americans) visit MK yearly and leave in peace.. They have laws.. Follow them.. Yes, they have some very harsh capital punishment laws. So do other countries... Other countries the U.S. is buddy buddy with.. Hell, U.S. is practically getting blowjobs from Iran at this point who do the same shiat NK does and even have some Americans in jails.. Where is the outrage? Ohhh, that's right.. Iran is convienent right now and NK is just in the way still..

Rodman may not have the most articulate way of speaking but he isn't a dummy and is playing this like a pro..

No, they don't. Even if they did, it's not US propaganda when they threaten SK every freaking day.

You also assume to think I'd give Iran or other countries a pass. I wouldn't. If Rodman was going to Iran and was all "Hey guys, don't say anything bad about Iran so I don't get thrown in jail" I'd tell him to fark off too. It doesn't matter what country. If he was going to the UK and didn't want reporters asking questions about some UK scandal because it would offend his hosts, I'd also say too bad.