It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.

Just like the Catholics - it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

Farking disgusting. And unfortunately, there are many, many entities that operate the same way. Churches, Universities, Foundations... any group that has opportunity and a financial reason to want to keep crimes hidden.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

Yes, but you forget how torturous this has been for the people attending the school so far, and how vocal they've been about how "unfair" this all is to them.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

GAT_00:Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.

GAT_00:Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

Krymson Tyde:The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

This isn't unfair to Penn State, however it is unfair for people to lay the entire weight of these crimes on PSU. Like has been said before, the Second Mile Charity was the source of the majority of these crimes. The reason this story started with the college and not the charity is because the charity's board members are very powerful GOP donors, and starting in 2009 the state GOP had plan to takeover the state house. The then AG, now PA Governor, refused to investigate these crimes with vigor. Instead he focused the entire DoJ on the Democratic State Caucus.

Coco LaFemme:GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

They might not technically be an Ivy, but farking the innocent with a little help from a few well placed friends and then acting self righteous about it when they get caught is about as Ivy league as you can get.

GAT_00:Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

They might not technically be an Ivy, but farking the innocent with a little help from a few well placed friends and then acting self righteous about it when they get caught is about as Ivy league as you can get.

What the hell does that even mean? Are you saying people who went to Ivy League schools farked people over, because that's an entirely different thing than the school farking people over. Want to show me where Harvard had something like this happen to match your false equivalence?

It's not that I don't think the Ivy League is useless, but let's go with some realistic criticisms, shall we?

Coco LaFemme:GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?

Krymson Tyde:The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

The football program needed the death penalty for a reason. The culture of "football first" needed to go away, badly. Now we have players and students acting like THEY are the victims in all of this.

Oh, but I guess it's ok, because the players are going to wear armbands, which totally makes everything better and in no way reinforces the idea that football is the lens through which to view all life.

GAT_00:Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?

Yup, don't even have an answer to that but you're going to act all high and mighty anyway. And change the subject, you know, because you don't have a real answer to that.

Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.

Godscrack:It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?

WTF Indeed:Godscrack: It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?

The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival.

Was this a surprise to anyone? When this first broke wasn't there reports that the feds were looking into his charity because it was believed that he was pimping out boys to wealthy donors? Also with what he was doing, it would take the efforts of a lot of people and money to keep it covered up.

Let's see here: rich (it's a state school) Ivy League (if by ivy league you mean big ten) conservative (I'd bet somewhere north of 90% of the faculty voted for Obama and about the same for students) school (that's debatable). So if you don't count everything you said in that sentence then you are totally right. Good job!

drivingsouth:Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.

From what I understand, the FBI was waiting in the wings just in case the local courts dropped the ball on convicting Sandusky. They got it right, so now the feds can focus elsewhere.

It's not just about the ring of people doing it; it's also about the cover-up, led by Joe Paterno, in the interest of protecting business deals in addition to the football program.

WhyteRaven74:BTW the NCAA did reserve the right to amend their penalties against Penn State should further information come to light.

I can't believe they didn't kill the program for five years. I also can't believe Dottie Sandusky opened the Lash Building for football players and students to rally. There are a hell of a lot of people who should be doing just as much time as Jerry, and Dottie is at the top of that list.

It will come out that people were paying for the right to get close to vulnerable children. It might take awhile...but it WILL come out.

To me, this isn't about Penn State the school. So many times I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football. Thing is, I don't watch college sports. I don't even know 10% of the college kids that get drafted into the NFL, much less 10% of any one college team.

Stuff like this just hits home for me. I was slightly molested as a very young child and I believe it changed my life forever. I'm not horribly ruined or anything, but my sex life is very frustrating even when I have several willing partners.

If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...