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Aww *hugs ATI* Such a nice change. I'd bought this PC with an ATI card about 2 months before I made a decision to start playing with Linux (which I not run 95% of the time). Imagine my joy when I found out how dismal support for my card was. It's come a hell of a long way, and to be honest I'm more excited about the fact that the drivers are going into CDs than anything else. Visible signs that there is good support will make people curious about the Penguin.. for one of the first times anyone who buys hardware will see another OS put along-side Windows and Mac as an equal. That's huge.

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Aww *hugs ATI* Such a nice change. I'd bought this PC with an ATI card about 2 months before I made a decision to start playing with Linux (which I not run 95% of the time). Imagine my joy when I found out how dismal support for my card was. It's come a hell of a long way, and to be honest I'm more excited about the fact that the drivers are going into CDs than anything else. Visible signs that there is good support will make people curious about the Penguin.. for one of the first times anyone who buys hardware will see another OS put along-side Windows and Mac as an equal. That's huge.

The drivers being on the CD doesn't really do much in my eyes. The Linux kernel moves to quickly compared to the windows one meaning new users should really use the distro's package manager to install it instead of the ones of the CD or they might end up without a working x.org when upgrading.

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Its not like they actually _support_ windows either ? try and get a bug fixed. The total sum of support is "re-install" if that doesn't work.. er... um.. umm.. go get the ones from $parentcompany.. bye !

Why do I must patch the kernel all time just for AMD/ATI fglrx support? Why not just supported with the vanilla kernel? That stuff is PITA to the user, I just want to use the latest kernel for my distro (gentoo-sources in Gentoo, for example) and put the fglrx driver on it without need to do manual patching with every kernel update.

I think Nvidia makes things easier, as they are more compatible with latest Linux kernels without need of patching all time. What do you think?

Sorry if this can be half offtopic or seem like trolling to some people, but I think being overoptimistic instead critical and objective makes companies lazy in their efforts.

OT: I think closed source drivers must be totally eliminated from the FLOSS world at long term, this situation is ridicule and against the spirit of the Free Source movement. I see some hope, as it seems companies are starting to understand it or at least being moved to it in a frictional way. I think all this problems with closed source drivers never would exist if these drivers were FOSS.