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NL- Since I had never heard of Elizabeth Rollings, I looked her up. She was a BBW porn girl and there are still sites up with her name plus dot com and/or dot net with very explicit sex on them. Her most popular scene includes a baseball bat. I found her in about 50 DVD movies including Fat Sex in the City. Here is her testimony from PinkCross.com, and should be considered her opinion only. Any one mentioned in this story who would like to respond, please do.

OP/ED by Elizabeth Rollings

I lay there covered in semen, saliva and sweat from twenty five different men. Disgusted, sore, defiled and void of all emotions, a part of me died that day; my soul was shredded and separated among the twenty five men who I just sold my body for.
My journey into the porn industry was justified by my desperate need to feed my three children. I was a destitute single mother who would have done anything for my children.

My first porn scene was filmed in Las Vegas in 2006 for Clint and his porn company Sensational Video. It was shot in an apartment. There was no fancy set, no personal changing area, no security, just a rundown, run of the mill hole in the wall. I was told it was a “test” shoot and that I was lucky to get paid for it, but that if I went through with it, I would gain fame and fortune. So begrudgingly, I did the scene.
In an hour the abuse was over and I was paid $300. As I was ushered out the door and promised more work, the next victim walked in. As I drove home with a knotted stomach, my only thought was that I had just sold my soul for $300 dollars. I vowed never to do it again and was sure I would never make another movie, but I was wrong.

Eight months later, it was the same situation. I was in need of money even though I was working full time. The demands of being a single mother with no help from my ex husband was too much to handle. A couple of men I knew had seen my first movie and encouraged me to make more. I relived the trauma over in mind and wanted to cry, but I believed desperate times called for desperate measures. I wanted the fast money in hopes to cure my stress about finances; little did I realize my stress had only begun.

I posted a profile on sexyjobs.com and not even five minutes later I received what seemed like a million phone calls from so called producers and agencies, all with promises of grandeur and instant wealth. I got some weird calls too, men asking me if I would beat them up or sleep with underage boys on camera; I immediately hung up on them.

Having received no formal education about the porn industry, I accepted a “gig” from a producer in Compton, California who ran Tiger Media Group. I had never been to Compton and didn’t know what to expect, but I needed the money.

When I got to the hotel I was informed that the producer, who looked shabbier than the room, was also the male performer or “talent” and I was to pleasure not only him, but the female companion he brought with him. I was taken back; I was told it was going to be a boy/girl scene not a boy/girl and then girl/girl scene. It was double the expected scene for the price of one, but what was I going to do? They knew I was a single Mom and needed the money so they took advantage of me.

Before the scene started the producer told me I needed to show him my ID and sign a model release with legal terms I didn’t understand. Since I was new and uneducated about the ways of porn, I naively thought it was for his tax purposes. When I asked him if he was going to wear a condom he shoved an AIM’s test in my face and said we would not be using a condom. He never asked me for an STD test or said that one was required of me.
When the abuse was over, I was sore, tired and disgusted with the others and with myself. The producer paid me half of what he promised to pay me and said the check for the rest would be in the mail. I trusted him because he sounded professional. The check never came.

Within days I began to drink heavily and take pain killers that I had laying around for a previous back injury. I started popping pills, especially when it came time to do a porn movie. The porn industry offered me drugs, too. I was offered marijuana and alcohol from porn producers and other porn stars and I gladly accepted the drugs and alcohol. I didn’t want to feel the pain of penetration from an over-sized penis or from being told to hold poses for still camera shots while being penetrated and choked. Every scene was at least two hours or more because of the need to do freeze frame pics and get good angles and lighting. I was degraded on camera and had to like it or else no pay! I was called names like bitch, whore, slut and because I was in the BBW (big beautiful women) niche, my weight was consistently used as a form of exploitation and insult. I was actually told not to lose weight or that I would never make it in the biz.

I was also forced into prostitution. Producers lied and sent me to do “privates” for high paying clients that my agent got a nice percentage of. I wasn’t in control of my life anymore and I completely lost my identity as Jan and turned into the demonized character Elizabeth Rollings, the porn star.

I sold my soul to the devil without even knowing it. Ironically, I later performed a brutal gangbang for Devil’s Films.
About six months into the porn lifestyle I was offered my own web site. A husband and wife team by the name of Ditto and Dutch who owned their own pay sites had an idea for a BBW network and wanted me to be their top model. I was promised if I worked tirelessly on my web site that I would gain financial freedom which appealed to me as I did not want to do hardcore scenes anymore. The guy made a contract convinced me that it was all for my benefit and when I suggested a lawyer read it over, Dutch guilt tripped me into signing it because of our so called “friendship” and besides; he promised me he would never keep the site up if we parted ways.
Of course, I fell for it. What drugged up alcoholic and traumatized woman wouldn’t?

It wasn’t long before Dutch started propositioning me for sex aside from the website work we did together and telling me if I didn’t have sex with him it would cost me. He often did this right after a scene, filling his selfish, lustful desires while his wife Ditto was downstairs. He threatened me time after time and said he would financially break me if I didn’t obey. He wasn’t the only producer to force me to do off camera sex acts. Prostitution was a form of manipulation producers use to get off and get more scenes out of the women. But I trusted Dutch. I thought he cared about me. I never thought he would have done this to me.

One particular producer Gabor, owner of Heatwave Video, really loved to use on the side sex as a tool for manipulation, telling me how much he loved me and that I was his number one model and that having sex with him was a sure way to have continued work. Gabor even sponsored a booth for me at LA Erotica in 2007, where I was billed as the first BBW to ever have a booth. He was happy to do it as long as I “gave it up” whenever he demanded. He was nothing more than a glorified pimp. I was assured that having a booth would help me gain more exposure and of course more money. I was nothing more than a puppet on a string.

As time went on and my thoughts of hopelessness and desperation grew, my web designer Dutch fed off of it like a plague. I wanted to die. I wanted to sleep and never wake up. Every day was a good day to drink heavily and ultimately I lost my normal job. I hated myself for being a horrible mother and just like in the beginning of my journey into porn; I was desperate only this time for a way out.
The abuse and pain was so bad that I ended up in the emergency room from a nervous breakdown. My world was a blur and I just wanted to end it all. But when I told my web designer that I couldn’t do it anymore, all hell broke loose. His threats worsened and of course he refused to take the web site down. In fact, it is still up and I have NOT received any money from it since mid 2007. I’ve reminded Dutch many times of our verbal agreement, but he just laughs in my face and tells me that he has a couple thousand to burn in a courtroom but I on the under hand am broke.

Facing the idea of committing suicide and feeling like I had no hope and not knowing who I was anymore I got on my knees and cried out to God for help. After a couple hours of tearful praying I went online to look for answers and Googled “porn help” and there she was my own personal guardian angel on earth, Shelley Lubben. I immediately contacted Shelley and told her my story and it didn’t take her long before she was sending me encouraging words from God, numerous gift cards to help feed me and my children and resources in my area to help aide me in my recovery. Not only was Shelley Lubben concerned with the physical and mental well being of me and my family, but she began to mentor me back into the relationship I once knew with Christ Jesus.

As I became close with God again, He began to heal me and one of the ways He did that was using my painful experience to help others. Not long after that day I searched online for help, I was suddenly involved in helping other women who were hurting just like me! Shelley asked me to join her in her outreach to women in porn and in 2008; I went back to the porn industry only this time I was on a powerful mission from God: I was out of the industry and into the ministry!

That year at the AVN Las Vegas porn convention, I found true purpose for my life. I knew what I was called to do: to help champion the cause against porn and rescue other women and men trapped in porn.
But the devil was fuming mad with me and wasn’t going to let me get away that easily.

In April of 2008, I felt very ill and reluctantly went to the E.R. Frightened at what it could possibly be; I was diagnosed with Chlamydia and herpes, a non curable sexually transmitted disease. My whole world came crashing down. I didn’t understand how God could let this happen! I mean, I did the right thing by getting out of the industry and now this? I always thought I was safe by getting tested on a monthly basis for STD’s through AIM(Adult Industry Medicine), but the so called “doctors” at AIM lied to me.

At that moment I had a choice to make. Would I blame God for my STDs and fall back into a pornographic world of lies or would I accept the fact that these are the consequences for being involved with an illegal and diseased industry.
I made the right choice. I didn’t give up. I cried out to the Lord Jesus Christ and He comforted me and strengthened me to continue to recover and do His great work.

Three years later I’m still volunteering with Shelley through the Pink Cross Foundation. I have witnessed God do supernatural miracles among those suffering in porn. I myself have been miraculously healed from herpes. It’s been three years and I have not had an outbreak. Shelley and the team prayed for me and just like Shelley, I am herpes-free through the power of Jesus Christ!

I have hugged and loved thousands of people in over 20 porn outreaches in three years. I have heard the heartbreaking stories of women just like me and even the men, sometimes drunk or high, come to our booth for help. Porn fans and porn stars, no matter, they all are searching for love and education. They want to know how we are recovering so strong. They want to feel like they matter and have purpose in this life. They want to be champions in life and Pink Cross reaches out and teaches them how to do it.

Working with Shelley and the team has been amazing and I am one of the women who hasn’t given up on her. It has been extremely difficult to face my past over and over again and relive those horrible memories in the middle of a porn convention, but how can I not reach out to my sisters and brothers who are suffering like I was?

I have witnessed a lot in this porn fight. People in porn sometimes think Shelley Lubben is a liar and using them for money. Of course, they believe the lies of crooked pornographers. The girls we reach out to are often addicted to drugs and alcohol and mix that in with the fact they do not trust anyone, you can imagine what Shelley and her family go through on a daily basis trying to reach out to these women.
I have seen Shelley suffer and sacrifice in ways unbelievable to help women and men escape porn. She constantly gives of herself without care to what will happen to her and her family because she truly believes God loves these people and will no longer tolerate the inhumane treatment of beautiful human lives that He created for greatness. Shelley always tells the women and men in porn, “You are made for greater things than porn.”

I’m so grateful to God to be alive and even share my testimony with you. I have performed in over 40 porn films including a gang bang scene with 25 men, over 20 pornographic websites including my own and 3 pornographic magazines. I want you to know the truth, the porn companies DO NOT care about human value, they do not care if the men and women who perform in porn, God’s children, live or die. The porn performers are NOTHING but replaceable objects that keep porn companies wealthy while the majority (at least 95%) of porn performers struggle to make ends meet. Porn is NOT glamorous, this is my story, and this is my truth.
Jan Meza, formerly known as the dead woman “Elizabeth Rollings”

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When did it become ok to start blaming other people for our own bad decisions in life?

SHE posted looking for work.
SHE showed up to jobs.
SHE made these decisions.

Nobody held a gun to her head.

I get some people need help but this person is so busy blaming everyone for her problems she can’t really start to truly get over her issues because she hasn’t really owned up to her own mistakes. She hasn’t taken responsibility for her own actions.

Porn didn’t hurt her. Porn gave her a means to make money. Sure she had to demean herself to make that money but that was of her own doing.

Porn companies like most companies don’t have to care about people. They are in this to make money. That is the point of business. That doesn’t make them good or bad, that just makes them a business.

Anyway this story just makes me sick to my stomach because this person just loves to blame everyone but herself for her problems. She’s clearly a sad piece of poo and the only thing she needs to fight is her inability to grow up and take responsibility for her own actions.

A huge part of the problem is that the porn industry is full of douchebags making money off the girls in any way they can get away with. The industry needs an overhaul to make it truley legit and safe. This should include:

Raising the minimum age to 21. Will reduce the sharks preying on noob girls just off the bus from whatever lil town they came from. At 21 girls are usually more mature.

There needs to be a guild or union for porn stars similar to SAG. No guild card no work. This way the guild can look out for the girls and make sure they take work with regular production companies that would have to play legit or the guild doesn’t send them any more work.

The girls should be told up front exactly whats expected of them in the scene and its in writing. No showing up for a boy/girl scene and finding 25 guys standing there ready for anal/DP/GB scenes.

No more crossover work. If a male talent does gay scenes he is no longer allowed to do straight.

There should also be proper testing. Supposedly some production companies fudge (manipulate) the HIV test to their benefit.

Things like what happened to this girl just can’t keep on going the way they are. Sooner or later some politicians or agency are gonna get involved and its better the industry police themselves before the govt. does it for them.

If all the major production companies can get together and come up with a gameplan to fight piracy then they should be able to come up with an industry wide plan to produce and market these movies while keeping the talent safe and clean so they can keep working and everyone (production companies as well as the male/female talent) happy.

“There should also be proper testing. Supposedly some production companies fudge (manipulate) the HIV test to their benefit.”

Supposedly? Where is the evidence of “improper” testing? If the AIM website/database only allows producers to READ the result of the query, how is this even possible? And what would be the benefit, pray tell, in committing criminal fraud and endangerment, and possibly worse? To get to shoot a scene with someone who is readily replaceable and who might turn around and sue you?

Karmafan also writes:

“Things like what happened to this girl just can’t keep on going the way they are.”

This is HER version, as posted on a website of an organization run by a woman who believes that SATAN — the same Satan that she claims ENTERED HER BODY to give her strength to get through a gang bang scene — is using pornography to destroy the church, and America. Ms. Rollins’ testimony does not constitute proof. We do not “know” that his happened to her, nor that this is “going on.”

@Kelli – You are absolutely correct, but she’s not going to get any lessons in personal responsibility from Ministress Lubben, nor about having pride in being a woman.

Here’s Lubben, speaking to an audience of men a couple of years ago (available on YouTube as “Shelley Lubben Speaks Truth About Porn Industry” part 5 of 5): “I need you, to be our fathers. I need you men to rise up and be the leaders of this country. Satan’s strategy is to destroy you and to destroy the church. And see, he can do it through you because, see, God made you ‘the head.’ You’re the powerful, you’re the one in position. We women cannot save America. We need our men to become fathers again, to turn this country around, and to save people like me from going into the industry. I was an innocent victim, I didn’t raise my hand to do that.”

What would Jesus do if he saw a porno? Did Jesus ever have a boner? How big is God’s dick? If God is a human-like being does he have a Goddess to have sex with? Christians believe that God had sex with the virgin Mary. I still think the Bible “immaculate conception” refers to first time E.T. hybridization.

Testing – I have read right here on this board posts by other talent that said some producers play games with the testing to get around AIM when it was still the company everyone used for testing.

I think there are enough stories similar to hers that you can believe some of them are true. Maybe she made it up, maybe Shelley made her story up? But there are an awful lot of porn star stories similar to theirs.

There needs to be some sort of a major overhaul to the current system of how movies are made or sooner or later the govt. will step in. We all love porn so lets keep the performers safe and happy in what they do.

Are you kidding with the dead porn stars? Can you appreciate how many thousands and thousands of people have come through the adult industry (straight and gay) in the last 35-40 years?

Anna Malle was killed in a auto collision — a car hit the car she was riding in. Is that because of porn? Porn stars have died of cancer too — does porn cause cancer?

People cite the porn star/ex-porn star drug deaths — did you ever look at the number of drug deaths, suicides, etc in mainstream entertainment?

If there is a single reason why former adult entertainers have a hard time re-entering and re-integrating into the straight world it is because of the stereotype that Lubben and Co. love to present, foster and perpetuate — that they’re all diseased, drug-infested, mentally ill, morally bankrupt and demon possessed. If they suffer after their time in the industry, the hands of the anti-porn crusade are anything but clean.

It’s amazing how she had no other source of income to raise her children but I believe there is a huge number of women that raise their children without turning to porn. Hmm let me think, oh yeah my mom had four kids barely spoke English and had an 8th grade education.

A few months ago Brian Pumper was caught redhanded forging std result for the THIRD TIME. Trish deveraux and John Stagliano let it slide the first two times. You would think that these two would have a zero tolerance policy, but obviously they dont. When Pumper got caught the tHIRD time they canceled his contract but only AFTER it became public. They put out a press release that said they had ‘creative differences.” Only AFTER the real story got out did they finally come clean. Then, one month later Brian Pumper is rewarded with Urban X award for best director. Go figure,,,now tell us how this self policing thing works.
And if Brian was caught three times, how many other times did he get away with it, we will never know, but dont think for one minute that he only did it threee times and got caught every single time. Getting caught three times shows a pattern of deciet.

Recently Ernest Greene has stated that 166 porn stars have died of AIDS since 1998,,most of them were gay. Those are ERNEST GREENES numbers.

Does porn cause cancer,,,,you bet it does. Recent research has shown that as few as 6 oral sex partners can increase the risk of throat cancer by 3x and as few as 18 oral sex partners increasses the risk by 27x’s. Do the math and use some common sense to figure that one out.

Why do you think there is no comprehensive testing for HPV,,,,becuase they we=ould have to report that to the county, and the numbers would be staggering,,same reason they dont do anal and throat swabs for g/c. That urine g/c test only tests for vaginal, or penile infection,,,,and considering all the oral and anal sex it is abviouls why they dont test analy and orally, the numbers would be staggering, and would have to be reported.

MICHAEL, you ask how is it possible to fudge with the tests. SIMPL:E. Producer X simply tells the talent on set that he has checked the database and everything is ok,,,,,,exactly what happened with patien zero, the one before Cameron. The producer said he called AIM and everything is ok,,,,he lied to th talent, can you imagine that MICHAEL. That is how easy it is to fudge with the tests.

@Michael,
Did you ever wonder why TALENT are not given passwords to the databse, wouldnt you think that the TALENT should be able to verify tests?
Michale, do you want to know WHY talent are not given passwords?

Don’t worry Elizabeth, God and Shelley both love you and will never give up on the wonderful plan they have in store for your life. His love is eternal and we are lucky to have saints like Shelley out there channeling his majesty.

I have a similar story that I would like to share, in hope that you can see God’s true power and light. This is hard for me to do, so please, bear with me.

Alright…..here we go. In 2007, down on my luck, and trying to fight to keep food on the table, I had to supplement my regular income. Begrudgingly, I approached a pimp in a blue vest and a yellow smiley button asking if I could, “get any work”. He eyed me up and down, and I could see that he was looking at my knees and my lower-back, so already I knew where his mind was drifting. As the creeps washed over me, I knew I should have left then and there, but stupidly, I showed up to his “place” the next day to start my horrible downward spiral. I couldn’t believe what they were asking me to do!! I had to lift box after box, and when someone broke a bottle of Great Value spaghetti sauce, guess who had to get on their knees like a slave and clean it up? When someone pooed all over the bathroom walls, I had to scrub them. I remember dropping my paper towels accidently and getting fecal matter on my hand. I showed my pimp, and the bastard had the nerve to tell me to “go wash them”. I couldn’t believe what I had subjected myself too. I had to get out of this perverse hell before I died of exposure to white trash and Deli Popcorn Chicken. Shelley helped me get out of my horrible “job” and now, I know it’s not my fault that I signed up to work at Wallmart and they expected me to fullfill the job requirements. Thank you, Shelley. Allelujah, praise be to Jesus!!!!!!

I’ll tell you what I don’t trust (and it’s not due to my being a webcam girl or enjoying alcohol). I don’t trust any organization that creates countless fake gmail accounts to spam women who are pro-porn OR neutral to the anti vs pro-porn debate. I have received so many emails through my GettingIntoPorn dot com website containing the phrase “I always have felt I was meant for things greater than porn but…” (that I’d be willing bet money on the fact that are from Lubben’s camp) that it’s sick.

It’s on record that other performers such as Vicki Vette have had to deal with harassment from this cult err organization too.

If 2 women in particular that I know had actually been helped by this organization that would be one thing – but they were NOT (and most likely because they did not have submissive personalities).

I wonder how much in donations the Pink Cross receives per “testimonial” – 10K, 20K, 30K? That would sure make each testimonial pretty valuable – valuable ENOUGH to where Lubben probably wouldn’t think twice to throw a kick back of anywhere between 1k and 3K to her “double agents in porn” (of which she references in her most recent discussion with Michael Whiteacre – on Julie Meadow’s site) who may “recruit” her a new lamb to take into her fold. Far fetched theory? Not really considering that certain adult talent agencies and escort agencies generally employ the same tactics when bringing in a new girl and Lubben reportedly worked as a madame at one point.

Call me paranoid but I’m pretty convinced that some of the online stalking I and my family have been dealing with stem from Lubben’s camp and the Pink Cross. Why? Because if someone like myself were to “turn” and say “porn is evil” and give her a testimonial, that would probably buy her yet another new face.

This woman and organization REGULARLY targets women in porn with a FANBASE because the larger the FANBASE, the more money in donations they receive.

Religious pimping at it’s finest.

I suppose what bothers me the most however, is the fact that Shelley still doesn’t seem to be willing to take personal responsibility for her choices in life (and to make it worse she’s telling other young women that it’s OK to blame everyone else but yourself for everything). Just admit it Lubben that YOU NEED MORE ATTENTION THAN MOST PEOPLE. You should also admit that you’re materialistic. That’s why you do what you do – plain and simple.

@ Artwilliams, I am excited because I have Christ and because He has healed me from a non- curable disease that even Bella Donna said at least 90% of porn stars have. It is a statement of TRUTH, working in the porn industry gave me herpes and Chlamydia, and God gave me freedom and healing.

@ Kelli, The porn industry is not my scapegoat, nor am I creating a Straw man fallacy, indeed I am only pointing out the devastating truth behind the garishly glorified, seemingly glamorous porn industry. The porn industry itself is a Straw man fallacy, perpetuating a fraud at every opportunity.
I made my bed, I laid in it, it almost killed me and now I’m taking the TRUTH of what happened everywhere I go and will NOT stop doing so. This is not out of spite or hatred, but out of love. If someone chooses to work in the porn industry then that is their choice however, I will stop at nothing to make sure that it is an educated, well informed choice about what really happens behind the scenes of the porn sets. I WILL make sure they know and understand their legal rights and know about the ramped spread STD’s that the porn industry keeps covering up to make a buck. I WILL let people know how women are coerced and forced to do scenes they never agreed to and I WILL let them know that they have a choice and are made for greater things than porn.

@ Brandon Iron, I was a working single mom of three. I worked two jobs while trying to get an education with an eight year old, a seven year old and five year old. I was desperate to provide for my children and believed this was an easy way of doing it. I was blatantly lied to time and time again by producers who promised me wealth and only sought to use me for their bottom line. They lured me in with money and kept me in with money, false promises, drugs and threats. I am NOT the only woman who has come forward to speak on the threats they received from porn producers while in the industry, the drug abuse and the physical abuse and I will not be the last.

@ 3ach, The abuses in the porn industry are happening as we speak, the only thing that is failing is the porn industries so called health and safety practices. The porn industry is blatantly breaking the law. Human value is never an option, the porn industry could care less if an porn performer lives or dies, human lives are nothing more than replaceable numbers to them, but not to me and this is why, I reiterate, I will NOT stop sharing the truth about porn and the people who produce it.

Ask the porn star who partied with Charlie Sheen. She was on Howard Stern recently where she talked about how she’s a ‘huge drinker’, how she doesn’t discriminate when it comes to who she sells her body to for ‘work’, how she does overseas escorting, how she recently started practicing sodomy (which is normal in pornography), and has had multiple abortions. Still think porn is glamorous, NOT!

No one was “made” for porn! No mentally fit mother or father looks at their innocent little girl and says I hope she grows up to be a porn star one day, yea, that’ll make us real proud. I’m sorry, it just doesn’t happen. It breaks my heart that women are being deceived into thinking that their worth is based on their ability to lay still and have a penis shoved in every possible opening. You are ALL made for greater things than porn and I will NEVER apologize for trying to love you out of this disadvantageous, demonic industry.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;

Hebrews 13:4
Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

The great thing about Jan’s comment here is how little it sounds like Shelley. 😉

It’s like that speech in “The Manchurian Candidate” that everyone comes home reciting.

LOL

Here we have another trial run of Lubben’s Cambridge debate points. Same old story, with minor modifications and concessions (such as “If someone chooses to work in the porn industry then that is their choice”) – it’s a meaningless concession, tough, because they later goon to say that they’re l forced, coerced and threatened in the porn business as it presently exists. This is the LIE that “we’re just here to make workers safe” rather than, “we want to take porn down.” Hitler said germany just needed a little breathing room, too. But if you say it, hey, it must be true. Why would they lie? Hmmm

“I am only pointing out the devastating truth behind the garishly glorified, seemingly glamorous porn industry.” I thought it was Mrs. Lubben who was pointing out the “truth” behind the fantasy of porn that “Porn is not glamorous”?

“women are coerced and forced to do scenes they never agreed to and I WILL let them know that they have a choice and are made for greater things than porn.” These are actual Lubben mantras. Verbatim. The prophet has spoken!

“This is not out of spite or hatred, but out of love” Sure it is, because saying it makes it so.

“He has healed me from a non-curable disease” Really ? I’d like to see documented medical proof of that. Shelley and her rap album’s producer “Ricky B.” Burchell told Brooke Ashley that God would cure her AIDS. When I asked Shelley to prove that she ever had herpes, she said, “Prove I didn’t.”

“a non-curable disease that even Bella Donna said at least 90% of porn stars have.” And of course Bella is a epidemiologist? She hasn’t been out there universally testing for herpes — NO ONE HAS. Unless G-d talks to her he way He does to Shelley, how would she know this?

“I was a working single mom of three.” Great life choices there, too, Jan. Or was that pornography’s fault, as well?

“I was blatantly lied to time and time again by producers” Naturally. Producers are all liars, and the performers are all victims. Right.

“They lured me in with money and kept me in with money, false promises, drugs and threats. I am NOT the only woman who has come forward to speak on the threats they received from porn producers while in the industry, the drug abuse and the physical abuse and I will not be the last.”

They lured you? Did they come to your door with cookies for sale and sucker you into having sex on film? YOU WERE NOT LURED any more than someone who goes to a discount store to buy tampons is lured. YOU SOUGHT WORK. Get it? YOU SOUGHT THAT WORK

Okay, Jan, how old were you when you got into porn, again? And how many years had you been in the sex industry OTHER THAN your time in porn?

You were no child. Nor was Mrs. Lubben. You were ADULTS. And shitty parents too. The WORST parents. And NOW you want to extend your family to include porn stars whom you insist need guidance and counseling. NONE OF YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO PROVDE COUNSELING. Certainly not Shelley Lubben, with her theology degree from a non-accredited diploma mill called Vision International University. I pity anyone who stumbles your way.

@origen – Insults? Have you seen/heard what Lubben has said/written of the childhood of her eldest daughter, Tiffany? The one she refers to as her “trick baby”? And how Child Protective Services had to be called on Shelley several times?

Until you do, why don’t you STFU? And if you already have, then you obviously DON’T GIVE A SHIT about the welfare of innocent MINOR CHILDREN.

I have seen the quote where Shelly refers to her eldest daughter as a “trick baby”. You are taking her usage of the term out of context. She in such an instance she is exercising cacemphaton to illustrate antithesis (her greatest pride and joy, her beautiful daughter, what what many would label a trick baby.

Dude, she said it in front of her daughter while introducing her daughter (who was in the audience) to a group of strangers! How would that make YOU feel? Are you a parent? Would you do that to your child?

“Cacemphaton to illustrate antithesis” or not, it doesn’t mean she was ever anything but a bad mother. If it’s true — and if it’s her own description of herself, how can it be an insult. I’m quoting her!!!

How about these:

“My little girl used to wake up and take care of me. I was a horrible mother. I used to send Tiffany to the park with a beeper and tell her, ‘I’ll beep you, once my tricks have gone.’ The tricks came over, she’d go to the park. She hated me.”
(Shelley Lubben Speaks Truth About Porn Industry, pt 1 of 5, 2008, on YouTube)

“Tiffany grew up a sad little girl, neglected and her innocence was often violated. . . . I was such a bad mother…” (Shelley Lubben Former Porn Star and Prostitute, available online)

“She was SEXUALLY ABUSED BY ONE OF MY CLIENTS, and she’d seen things no little girl should ever see.”
(Ex Porn Star Tells the Hardcore Truth About Porn, pt 5 of 5, 2008, on YouTube)

“I had child services called on me quite a few times. By the grace of G-d I never got caught!”
(Ex Porn Star’s Amazing Story, pt 2 of 6, on YouTube)

“Tiffany’s been, she’s been, you know, she was raised on MTV and lookin’ at my porn and she was playing with my sex toys and masturbating since age nine. I mean, the poor girl’s been through way worse than I’ve been through.”
(Howard Stern Show, November 2010, on YouTube)

Am I still taking things out of context, bud? Would you like to reviser your comments now?

WTF! I didn’t know Shelley abused her daughter like that. That IS fucked up.

However, the abuse was committed before Shelly underwent religious conversion (though they are as scarlet Ha-shem cannot forgive all?). She does not hook anymore. She should be ashamed of herself and not boast about the way she used her child–but its disingenuous to call her a bad mother NOW. Shelly is to blame and her PAST criminal actions made her a bad mother in the PAST but not NECESSARILY now.

I just feel as as if you don’t know her personally and name-calling on a pro-porner’s behalf vindicates the Puritan worldview–all people who like erotica are obstinately mean-spirited, against God and working for satan.

Plus, why did you add Jan Meza to your enemy list? She got out of porn and now opposes it. Good for her. Just attack the facts and not the person.

Frankly, I feel as if you are making the wrong choice going after Shelly Lubben every chance you can get. There are many problems in the adult industry right now. Shelly Lubben does not rank near the top of the list.

@origen – I added Jan Meza because of the statements I’ve heard/read coming directly from her, as well as from other sources (both on and off the record). Jan is not the subject of my documentary, and I decline to go into more detail, although I stand by what I wrote.

As for Shelley’s conversion, are you familiar with the picture post card she handed out at the UCLA School Of Law “Condoms in the Adult Industry” forum? If you’re not, you’ll see it in my documentary. I don’t want to give it away her, but let’s jus say that, I think that perhaps Children’s Services STILL may need to be called on old Shelley. It’s sickening.

Aso, she uses photos of her kids everywhere – on her website, in articles. Who would do that? Or who would and then claim that she’s being harassed by those scary pro-porn demonic forces (like “those free speech people” — I love that one)? If it were true, why would she put these minors at risk? Doesn’t she know how cruel the world can be? Does she care, beyond the importance of the creation and marketing of her “legitimacy?”

Furthermore, I’ve read Shelley’s book — 275 pages excluding endnotes (and only 22 1/2 of which are on her time in porn, BTW) — and it seems obvious to me, in my personal opinion — that Shelley’s essential nature has not changed ONE IOTA. SHE has even said she’s “still a hustler,” but now she’s hustling for Jesus!

For the record, I believe in salvation and redemption. I truly do. I just don’t believe that Shelley has gone through such a change because she still refuses to accept responsibility for anything. And I don;t believe that a fair, just, merciful and loving G-d would wake her up in the middle of the night Howard Beale-style and tell her to start a ministry just so that she could pocket 39.5% of all cash donations in 2009 as salary and fringes. And to double her salary from 2008 to 2009, while declaring that she was working fewer hours.

As or he issue of lack of personal responsibility, just look at the quotes I listed:
“the poor girl’s been through way worse than I’ve been through.” Passive voice — not “I put her through”, “she’s BEEN through.”

“She was SEXUALLY ABUSED BY ONE OF MY CLIENTS” not “I allowed her to be.”

Tiffany grew up neglected — not “I neglected her”

There’s REAMS of quotes like that. “I’m an innocent victim… I didn’t raise my hand for that (a career in porn).”

When her father threw her out of the house at age 18, allegedly saying, “You’re dead to me,” Shelley now claims, “When he said those words to me, the demonic spirits entered me, and I was never the same.” So it was her parents’ fault and Satan’s.

These are her words TODAY. That’s not a recovered person.

As for whether the time going after Lubben is worthwhile or not — indulge me for the time being, or as lawyers would ask a court, “A little latitude, your Honor?” You also assume I am inactive vis-a-vis other issues, and I am anything but.