Who would you start fantasy football wise: Helu or Morris? I have both on my roster, but since we're playing the Broncos I could see us in more passing packages than standard. Please vote. Major decision here.

markshark84 wrote:Who would you start fantasy football wise: Helu or Morris? I have both on my roster, but since we're playing the Broncos I could see us in more passing packages than standard. Please vote. Major decision here.

This should take about 10 nanoseconds to decide... Morris! If you're in a PPR league then you might have to think about it for 50 nanoseconds.

(for those of you not familiar with a nanosecond it is equal to one billionth of a second)

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Morris is the safe start. SkinsFan#33 is probably right in a PPR league, they might be about even.

Here is the Huddle's comments on Skins' RBs v. Denver if it helps:

RUNNING BACKS: Last summer, Alfred Morris spoke about how he would improve on an impressive rookie season. And he was hard at work not only staying in shape but learning to receive. What they failed to tell him was that he would be halfway through the season without a single game of more than 19 touches and that Roy Helu would become a big part of a committee. Morris ran for 95 yards on the Bears on 19 carries but Roy Helu was mixed in liberally with 11 rushes for 41 yards and three touchdowns. Over the last four games, Morris scored only once while Helu racked up four touchdowns. Helu also adds in a couple of catches in most games as well unlike Morris. Helu does enough lately to merit minor consideration as a flex play but mostly he's ensured that Morris remains nothing but an average back this year. Take Helu out of the picture and Morris would be just as good as 2012. Not going to happen.

My rationale is that we'll most likely be:
1. playing down the majority of the game and in mostly passing formations, and
2. using the hurry up offense, which Helu is exclusively used in

Honestly, I don't think it is that cut and dry. I am actually considering starting Morris and using Helu as my flex --- and I'm not in a PPR league. 5 of my players have a bye week, so it is either Stevan Ridley or Helu as my flex.

I said Helu because of the deficit that we'll most likely be facing. I also think that if we are down far enough, they're not going to risk injury to Morris and will play/feature Helu. Helu also offers more in terms of picking up yards in the pass vs Morris and while Morris will have more opportunities to touch the ball, Dallas couldn't run the ball vs Den and Helu will be in for just as many snaps if not more which will mean increased chances of making a play.

ps - Keep in mind that Shanny said that Helu has earned more touches as well and because of Morris' 1600 yd season last year, Helu is playing for his next opportunity which is enough motivation for me to pick him.

markshark84 wrote:My rationale is that we'll most likely be:1. playing down the majority of the game and in mostly passing formations, and 2. using the hurry up offense, which Helu is exclusively used in

Honestly, I don't think it is that cut and dry. I am actually considering starting Morris and using Helu as my flex --- and I'm not in a PPR league. 5 of my players have a bye week, so it is either Stevan Ridley or Helu as my flex.

I think you're on to something, there. Your more interesting choice is between flexing Ridley vs Helu. In that decision, even though I want to say you go with Helu because he is likely (for many of the reasons already expressed by others) to get a meaningful amount of touches/opportunities, Ridley will be playing against the Dolphins this week and seems to be coming on in the last 2 weeks with the Pats. But I think Morris out points them both, for what that's worth.

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

riggofan wrote:Morris is the safe start. SkinsFan#33 is probably right in a PPR league, they might be about even.

Here is the Huddle's comments on Skins' RBs v. Denver if it helps:

RUNNING BACKS: Last summer, Alfred Morris spoke about how he would improve on an impressive rookie season. And he was hard at work not only staying in shape but learning to receive. What they failed to tell him was that he would be halfway through the season without a single game of more than 19 touches and that Roy Helu would become a big part of a committee. Morris ran for 95 yards on the Bears on 19 carries but Roy Helu was mixed in liberally with 11 rushes for 41 yards and three touchdowns. Over the last four games, Morris scored only once while Helu racked up four touchdowns. Helu also adds in a couple of catches in most games as well unlike Morris. Helu does enough lately to merit minor consideration as a flex play but mostly he's ensured that Morris remains nothing but an average back this year. Take Helu out of the picture and Morris would be just as good as 2012. Not going to happen.

Average back? Morris leads the NFL in yards per carry (5.2), and is on track for more than 1200 yards for the season, in spite of limited touches.

riggofan wrote:Morris is the safe start. SkinsFan#33 is probably right in a PPR league, they might be about even.

Here is the Huddle's comments on Skins' RBs v. Denver if it helps:

RUNNING BACKS: Last summer, Alfred Morris spoke about how he would improve on an impressive rookie season. And he was hard at work not only staying in shape but learning to receive. What they failed to tell him was that he would be halfway through the season without a single game of more than 19 touches and that Roy Helu would become a big part of a committee. Morris ran for 95 yards on the Bears on 19 carries but Roy Helu was mixed in liberally with 11 rushes for 41 yards and three touchdowns. Over the last four games, Morris scored only once while Helu racked up four touchdowns. Helu also adds in a couple of catches in most games as well unlike Morris. Helu does enough lately to merit minor consideration as a flex play but mostly he's ensured that Morris remains nothing but an average back this year. Take Helu out of the picture and Morris would be just as good as 2012. Not going to happen.

Average back? Morris leads the NFL in yards per carry (5.2), and is on track for more than 1200 yards for the season, in spite of limited touches.

I think they mean in term of fantasy football value...... not how good of a player he is. I have him in my league and he isn't exactly lighting it up.

riggofan wrote:Morris is the safe start. SkinsFan#33 is probably right in a PPR league, they might be about even.

Here is the Huddle's comments on Skins' RBs v. Denver if it helps:

RUNNING BACKS: Last summer, Alfred Morris spoke about how he would improve on an impressive rookie season. And he was hard at work not only staying in shape but learning to receive. What they failed to tell him was that he would be halfway through the season without a single game of more than 19 touches and that Roy Helu would become a big part of a committee. Morris ran for 95 yards on the Bears on 19 carries but Roy Helu was mixed in liberally with 11 rushes for 41 yards and three touchdowns. Over the last four games, Morris scored only once while Helu racked up four touchdowns. Helu also adds in a couple of catches in most games as well unlike Morris. Helu does enough lately to merit minor consideration as a flex play but mostly he's ensured that Morris remains nothing but an average back this year. Take Helu out of the picture and Morris would be just as good as 2012. Not going to happen.

Average back? Morris leads the NFL in yards per carry (5.2), and is on track for more than 1200 yards for the season, in spite of limited touches.

I think they mean in term of fantasy football value...... not how good of a player he is. I have him in my league and he isn't exactly lighting it up.