In 2002, Harrelson explained, he attended a dinner with his friend Jesse Ventura. Trump was also in attendance — in fact, he was courting Ventura to be his running teammate on( get this) the 2004 Democratic presidential ticket.

“It was brutal, ” he continued. “I never met a more narcissistic humankind. He talked about himself the whole time. I had to walk out, like, halfway through to smoke a joint … simply to, like, steel myself for the rest of it.”

Harrelson’s full interview is below. The Trump story starts at around the 4:12 marker, so we’d recommend starting there unless you want to listen to a weirdly apologist dialogue about Lyndon B. Johnson.