I'd hazard a guess that the car has not been in Sweden all its life and that the Uppsala plaque (which it certainly is) is a relatively recent addition, as are the siren and extinguisher.

ST

And your guess would be wrong.Registration documents say that it was registered in Uppsala, with the number that is on the car in the photos, on January 31 1935. Before this it had been registered in Stockholm, but probably not for very long since the model year is indicated as 1934 (!). The registered owner is the Uppsala fire brigade.The trace I have leads up to 1964, at which point it was still in the same region.

And your guess would be wrong.Registration documents say that it was registered in Uppsala, with the number that is on the car in the photos, on January 31 1935. Before this it had been registered in Stockholm, but probably not for very long since the model year is indicated as 1934 (!). The registered owner is the Uppsala fire brigade.The trace I have leads up to 1964, at which point it was still in the same region.

Not entirely! In the restoration of Edwardian and Vintage cars 'recent' can be relative. However, short of getting the records from the RREC (which you may have done I suppose) that's a good chunk of its history. Odd that an N-Series 40/50 Ghost, which by then would have been considered a bit of an old banger (!) would have been bought by the Fire Dept. Hardly a fast-response vehicle. I look forward to further discoveries regarding this car's history.

Not entirely! In the restoration of Edwardian and Vintage cars 'recent' can be relative. However, short of getting the records from the RREC (which you may have done I suppose) that's a good chunk of its history. Odd that an N-Series 40/50 Ghost, which by then would have been considered a bit of an old banger (!) would have been bought by the Fire Dept. Hardly a fast-response vehicle. I look forward to further discoveries regarding this car's history.

ST

Sebastian what is RREC how would I get in touch with it/them ?

BTW Wouldn't RR have a better phrase for the term "a bit of an old banger" in the same way as "failing to proceed" = break down ?

RREC is the Rolls Royce Enthusiasts Club RREC who have comprehensive chassis records. Yes, I expect there was a phrase! I note from one of my handbooks that the radiator and wheel-centre locks with the RR logo should be covered up in the 'unlikely' event of the car's being towed or transported on a trailer!

RREC is the Rolls Royce Enthusiasts Club RREC who have comprehensive chassis records. Yes, I expect there was a phrase! I note from one of my handbooks that the radiator and wheel-centre locks with the RR logo should be covered up in the 'unlikely' event of the car's being towed or transported on a trailer!

ST

Doh ! Should have guessed RREC

Funny these days when ever a Beemer or Audi fails to proceed it quickly gets scooped up by a low loader with tarps on the sides to hide the evidence

I didn't say he was - he's a member of that club (I expect) but not of its staff.One eventually comes to have a few authoritative friends whom one can ask these things of - and vice versa when my specialist knowledge is called on.

I didn't say he was - he's a member of that club (I expect) but not of its staff.One eventually comes to have a few authoritative friends whom one can ask these things of - and vice versa when my specialist knowledge is called on.

Just had an e-mail from Urban Duhrin of www.brandhistoriska.se and he has informed me the bodywork was by från Wattholma and that the vehicle was known as "Number 11" after the district in which it served with well known firecaptain/manager F W Kyhlberg. District 11 is said to be not far from Arlanda airport.

I´ve made some searches on Google and I have found two references to
Fredrik Kylberg and a Rolls Royce that might interest you.

Both are from the chief of Almunge Fire Brigade Leif Löfgren.

Fredrik Kylberg (born 1877) worked in Stockholm Fire Brigade but after
an injury in 1918 moved to Vattholma north of the capital.

In the ´20s he rebuilt used cars with fire fighting equipments and tried
to sell them to local fire brigades. His first car was a Rolls Royce and it
was used in Vattholma. Buisness was not so good but then he came up
with a brilliant plan.

When he got news of where the local buisness men and politicians were
having a meeting he parked the RR hidden and started a little fire. He then
dashed to the car and like a white knight came to the rescue.

The plot worked and he went on to sell many rebuilt cars. Almunge for
example bought a 1923 Cadillac and a Chevrolet. Both were used as late
the early ´50s.

I´ve made some searches on Google and I have found two references toFredrik Kylberg and a Rolls Royce that might interest you.

Both are from the chief of Almunge Fire Brigade Leif Löfgren.

Fredrik Kylberg (born 1877) worked in Stockholm Fire Brigade but afteran injury in 1918 moved to Vattholma north of the capital.

In the ´20s he rebuilt used cars with fire fighting equipments and triedto sell them to local fire brigades. His first car was a Rolls Royce and itwas used in Vattholma. Buisness was not so good but then he came upwith a brilliant plan.

When he got news of where the local buisness men and politicians were having a meeting he parked the RR hidden and started a little fire. He thendashed to the car and like a white knight came to the rescue.

The plot worked and he went on to sell many rebuilt cars. Almunge forexample bought a 1923 Cadillac and a Chevrolet. Both were used as late the early ´50s.

Great stuff Ralph. I know it's been said 'n' times before but it never ceases to amaze me how TNF-ers can always get to the bottom of the most obscure bit of motoring history. The story about Fredrik Kylberg and his entrepreneurial skills was the icing on the cake! Well done

Great stuff Ralph. I know it's been said 'n' times before but it never ceases to amaze me how TNF-ers can always get to the bottom of the most obscure bit of motoring history. The story about Fredrik Kylberg and his entrepreneurial skills was the icing on the cake! Well done