156: Everybody was Point Fighting?

I guess I was the only one that was entertained by this card? LilNog/Shad wasn't the best but it is what it is. Glad to see Lil Nog get a nice high profile win.

I didn't mind Fitch getting Fitched.

Thought that Creepy and Joe both brought it. Don't see how anyone can be bummed about that fight.

AO/Silva was great, just sad that no one took Overeem on my Silva in the avatar thread. I knew that Overeem was going to get blasted, dual curse of both, the HW division and the UFC trying to set up a match. Throw in Overeem's entrance and it was like fate had already inked that Silva was going to win.

I guess I was the only one that was entertained by this card? LilNog/Shad wasn't the best but it is what it is. Glad to see Lil Nog get a nice high profile win.

I didn't mind Fitch getting Fitched.

Thought that Creepy and Joe both brought it. Don't see how anyone can be bummed about that fight.

AO/Silva was great, just sad that no one took Overeem on my Silva in the avatar thread. I knew that Overeem was going to get blasted, dual curse of both, the HW division and the UFC trying to set up a match. Throw in Overeem's entrance and it was like fate had already inked that Silva was going to win.

And of course, the prelims were off the chain.

It seems most enjoyed the card. Outside of few deluded malcontents that can't get past their own bellyaching for its own sake, it was a good card overall.

I was going to selectively respond to many of the posts in this thread until I realised that I could sum up my thoughts on all of them in just one sentence.

"WAAAAAH I LIKE MMA THE WAY I LIKE IT BETTER THAN WHAT YOU LIKE MMA TO BE LIKE!"

Seriously, guys, there is no 'superior' way to enjoy MMA. If you like KO's, then ok, that's your thing. If you like submissions, booyah to you. If you like boring-***, tap-tap, dance'n'prance fighting, then although you may very well be homosexual, that's ok too.

Personally, as much as I can appreciate skill and technique, I find that if that's the ONLY thing happening, then it's not a fight, it's a sparring match. Much like if it's ONLY a stand-up battle, I tend to find those pretty dull as well, or if it's ONLY a ground game. I can enjoy such fights if they're dynamic and can even enjoy them if I can see that there's some element of TRYING to win, rather than just cruising to a victory doing as little as possible to get there.

Like Maia "Fitching" the Fitcher. That s--- was just gold.

In general, I like MMA because of the MIXED aspect. As much as I love martial arts, I've never gotten into watching any particular discipline because, well, it's all just the same thing done in the same manner. What I find most intriguing and interesting in MMA, and the reason that despite being a fan of MA for over thirty years and hardly ever watching any events, I became so fascinated by MMA, was because you never know what's going to happen. It could be a kick, it could be a knee, an elbow, a RNC, a leg lock, or god-forbid, a twister.

There's excitement in unpredictability. When a fight starts to become entirely predictable and the same thing happens over, and over, and over again for fifteen to twenty-five minutes, well, that gets a little dull (to me) no matter what the skill level of the competition is.

Nope. How about you stop kissing so much UFC butt and keep it real for once. Unless your on UFC payroll, you're hard to believe. The UFC is sport and spectacle all in one big coliseum package... I thought we were calling a spade a spade?

I wouldnt say anybody was really point fighting. Alistair was trying to get rid of Big Foot but ended up running into a brick wall. Benavidez was trying to take McCalls head off and McCall was answering him and asking for a brawl. Maia fitched fitch and was going for submission the whole time. Lil Nog was TRYING to advance on rashad but rashad was just being an idiot. At one point he was just standing infront of lil nog and staring at him. That comes down to fighter vs. star power. Sure rashad is a big name and a star in the sport but has he really produced really memorable fights? the only thing that i can remember out of rashad thats note worthy is the KO against salmon,KO against chuck,beating of griffin,and semi-brawl with ortiz. Against rampage,bisping,thiago,davis,and bones he was a bore factory. Now for the main event, aldo was trying to kill frankie. That is NOT an easy thing to do. Frankie is an elusive S.o.B. Aldo always looks for the kill in every one of his fights and when he gets the chance or sees the opportunity he jumps on it. There just werent any opportunities for aldo considering his tough opponent. Frankie on the other hand was never a guy who went in there for the kill. he takes them as they come along, hence the 3rd maynard fight. He goes in there and implements his fighting style which is not centered around killers intent per say and more about out working and overwhelming your opponent. Thats what he does and hes good at it but when he comes to fight............he comes to fight. Hes a stud and one of the P4P best in the world. Sure there are the two types of fans that either want the big KO and the blood and the violence and then theres the ones who look for the beauty of MMA and care more about the establishment and performance of techniques. I love both, im not gonna try to brag about it cause that would be stupid. Not everyone can sit there and watch jon fitch. I hear people all the time say "oh when jon fitch starts fighting i either go to sleep or go for a smoke or whatever" imo thats absolute BS. How can you, you seriously have no interest to see the master that jon fitch is perform the way that he does? Same with GSP or Jake Shields per say. I'll even admit that it is sometimes boring but its not gonna stop me from watching. Do i like point fighters? im hot and cold about them. Not everybody has KO power and not everybody has the athleticism to overwhelm their opponent. So they devise a system that works for them. I get that, is it cool? not really, i personally would like to see 100% from both fighters out there. If they follow their game plan then cool beans, good for them. They went in there and did exactly what they trained to do and who they trained to fight. Do i like it when a guy goes in there forgets the game plan and just goes wild like a leonard garcia? not all the time. But ill tell you one thing, i will still watch no matter what. I would never flip the channel or turn off my tv just cause a fighter isnt fighting the way I want him to fight. Thats just stupid. Different fighters do different things and have different ways of fighting and using their physical abilities to their advantage. The problem is if they are giving it 100% or not. If two fighters have a boring fight and start doing cartwheels or push ups or w/e inside the cage, then they can get a f---in pink slip and gtfo cause they didnt come to fight. Thats all i got to say, sorry for the essay.

Speaking for myself, I get it. UFC, to me, is (was) about a fascinating competition involving skill, carnage, endurance, and brutality. The gladiator intro was there for a reason. Attributes like this make it interesting and give it that novel appeal. Point fighting and decisions don't bring in new fans. They don't keep em either.

Whether you want to admit it or not, brutal and savage KOs like the Overeem fight keep the sport going. People remember those, they don't remember Edgar fighting in 5 title fights that all go to decisions. Those fights go from PPV material to FOX to Fuel TV.

This fight had 4/5 fights go to decision. How many sub attempts? How many times were people in serious trouble? Where's the excitement? For the guys that just want to watch "skill" or "technique," and that's what get your juices flowing... how about watching tennis?

EXACTLY!

That's why there's such thing as "UFC Best KO's" and "Best submissions" all time, running on fox, fuel, fx, spike (back then). No such thing a "best Dance n Prance" of all time.

There's a reason why the whole crowd explodes whenever there's a devastating KO. It energizes the crowd. It makes their blood boil. The sheer excitement and exhilaration makes it all worth while.

I don't see anybody get excited with dance n prance techniques (except maybe for some of the posters here)

again, Aldo's face was so CLEAN from pillow-punches. Edgar's face was a wreck!!

So, Python. You say that people who want to watch skill and technique should just go watch tennis. Well, if all you want to see are undisciplined, wild brawlers and nothing but KOs, why don't you go watch a local toughman competition? No one is forcing you to watch all those "boring" decisions and "point fighters". You say 4/5 fights sucked, but I say 4/5 fights were good.