We are screwed on the right side of the line._________________"22 players are involved in every football play. To value precisely the activity of one of them, it is first necessary to account for the actions of the other 21"

While I got absolutely skewered on these boards on draft day for saying this, I think Martin lacks strength and his feet aren't as good as advertised. He seems to lunge at players as opposed to setting a solid base with his feet. Hicks is also playing poorly.

Strength and footwork are things that can be improved. I do like that Martin has worked in a similar ZBS, or at least that's what I had read when we drafted him. So, hopefully that will help him mature faster._________________"22 players are involved in every football play. To value precisely the activity of one of them, it is first necessary to account for the actions of the other 21"

While I got absolutely skewered on these boards on draft day for saying this, I think Martin lacks strength and his feet aren't as good as advertised. He seems to lunge at players as opposed to setting a solid base with his feet. Hicks is also playing poorly.

Strength and footwork are things that can be improved. I do like that Martin has worked in a similar ZBS, or at least that's what I had read when we drafted him. So, hopefully that will help him mature faster.

Probably by the same folks that think Jake Long is infallible.

Clearly Martin has weaknesses but he's who we got so we'll have to make do this season. I surely hope he gets used to the speed and power of who he'll face on a weekly basis. He and Hicks are getting trashed in pre-season.

Biggest thing that I want to see out of Martin is improvement. I can accept his weakness & mistakes at this point since he is a rookie. Columbo had no excuses last year. Also, John Jerry better get his fat [inappropriate/removed] on a diet cause he can't count on someone's retirement saving him again._________________

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The hero doesn't always ride off into the sunset with the girl, sometimes he ends up on the wrong end of the lightsaber.

Biggest thing that I want to see out of Martin is improvement. I can accept his weakness & mistakes at this point since he is a rookie. Columbo had no excuses last year. Also, John Jerry better get his fat [inappropriate/removed] on a diet cause he can't count on someone's retirement saving him again.

Strength and footwork are things that can be improved. I do like that Martin has worked in a similar ZBS, or at least that's what I had read when we drafted him. So, hopefully that will help him mature faster.

While I know you are correct on this point Merc, in the last 4 seasons we haven't seen a single OL prospect get "coached up" into a solid starter. Jake Long was a #1 overall pick and his dominance carried over. Pouncey was the 16th overall pick and appears to already have all the skills to excel. And Incognito came to us due to anger management problems on previous teams, not because he couldn't play.

I hope our new coaching staff has what it takes to bring out the best in Martin, but it's far from a sure thing._________________Earn more sessions by sleeving.

Well after watching some of the vids on the miami site, John Jerry is gonna be starting on friday so hopefully we see some improvement on that Oline since i believe the starts will play around 3 quarters._________________

Well after watching some of the vids on the miami site, John Jerry is gonna be starting on friday so hopefully we see some improvement on that Oline since i believe the starts will play around 3 quarters.

He played well last game. His issue is that he is overweight and can't move with quickness. If he can continue to lose weight than he and Martin should progressively get better throughout the season. Hicks nor Steinbeck were long term answers whereas Jerry might be.

John Jerry needs to get down to about 320. When he does he'll be a solid player in this league. He has surprisingly good feet for being so huge, unfortunately he is just to big.

I think Martin will be fine, but he is doing everything opposite from what he is used to. Think about it: He has to do everything with the opposite hand/foot then he is used to do doing. I think he'll get it because he is talented, smart, and appears to want it. It just might take a month or two._________________

And here I thought all along Jerry was specifically scouted as a "Man'/Power Running - road grader type OL.

I don't remember reading anything about being a mobile or having great ft wk etc etc ...

And furthermore I am disgusted that he showed up to camp in disappointing phys condition.
It's not like he was even penciled in as a starter last yr.
You would think with a new regime he would show some respect - courtesy & professionalism.

I dont understand why we never finished the O-Line project. You build from the trenches out. With a new QB, we must address this in the draft before WR._________________Will we ever address the Guard position?