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Rhoads: A couple of interesting WR notes

We've heard things leading up to today but in today's press conference, Rhoads really gave WR's Justin Coleman and Dondre Daley a big push. Said that Coleman will contribute next fall and that Daley has made a big push towards the end of spring and has really stood out.

I've heard great things about Daley since the day he stepped on campus so none of this is really a surprise.

Re: Rhoads: A couple of interesting WR notes

I have a feeling I'm going to have the same frustration as I did last year when I see Daley play, although to a lesser level because of numbers. This staff, I feel is too hell bent on redshirting skill players. I have a hard time believing Bundrage would not have contributed significantly his freshman year and I think once Lenz got hurt, Daley could have as well. That said, it's nice to have 3 and 4 years left with those guys.

Re: Rhoads: A couple of interesting WR notes

Originally Posted by Tre4ISU

I have a feeling I'm going to have the same frustration as I did last year when I see Daley play, although to a lesser level because of numbers. This staff, I feel is too hell bent on redshirting skill players. I have a hard time believing Bundrage would not have contributed significantly his freshman year and I think once Lenz got hurt, Daley could have as well. That said, it's nice to have 3 and 4 years left with those guys.

I think overreacting and pulling redshirts can lead to a vicious cycle of being in the lack of depth situation that led to having to pull redshirts the years before. Having more athletes who did redshirt and are more prepared to contribute should help the team to not be in the "it's an emergency, we need to think about pulling a redshirt" situation in the future. Having players who are a year older and have spent a year more in the program generally makes them much more able to contribute. That should mean you have other redshirt seniors, juniors, sophomores and yes, even redshirt freshmen who are ready to contribute when your starters go down rather than having to throw a true freshman out there.

It sounds harsh but another benefit of having players redshirt is that there is a real cost for those players to transfer out of the program. There is much less chance that they will transfer on a whim since it will cost them an actual year of eligibility because their redshirt is already gone. I know, it sounds harsh, but it is true.

"There are five real good recruits in the state. We got three of them. One couldn’t get into school, and the other went to (the University of) Iowa...which is about the same thing." - Coach Johnny Orr

Re: Rhoads: A couple of interesting WR notes

Originally Posted by VeloClone

It sounds harsh but another benefit of having players redshirt is that there is a real cost for those players to transfer out of the program. There is much less chance that they will transfer on a whim since it will cost them an actual year of eligibility because their redshirt is already gone. I know, it sounds harsh, but it is true.

Transfering in football is not nearly the epidemic that it has become in basketball. If you look at the history of transfers from Iowa State, it's mainly because the kid is not playing/not ready to play at this level. Sure, that might hurt from a depth standpoint, but if the the kid isn't ready to play, he's not much help in depth, regardless. It's like CPR has said, it's not the kids you don't get that hurt you, it's the kids you do get that don't pan out.

Re: Rhoads: A couple of interesting WR notes

Originally Posted by VeloClone

I think overreacting and pulling redshirts can lead to a vicious cycle of being in the lack of depth situation that led to having to pull redshirts the years before. Having more athletes who did redshirt and are more prepared to contribute should help the team to not be in the "it's an emergency, we need to think about pulling a redshirt" situation in the future. Having players who are a year older and have spent a year more in the program generally makes them much more able to contribute. That should mean you have other redshirt seniors, juniors, sophomores and yes, even redshirt freshmen who are ready to contribute when your starters go down rather than having to throw a true freshman out there.

It sounds harsh but another benefit of having players redshirt is that there is a real cost for those players to transfer out of the program. There is much less chance that they will transfer on a whim since it will cost them an actual year of eligibility because their redshirt is already gone. I know, it sounds harsh, but it is true.

I agree with all of that, but if someone is good enough to play, play them. Watching Bundrage last year, he was our most complete receiver. He's big, fast, and makes plays. I have a hard time believing he couldn't have contributed almost as much the year before. It's not an egregious violation by any means but it's one of the very small, rare things that this staff has done. Same with Richardson, though not with the redshirt as much as playing him early. Throwing him into the KU game tells me the staff knew he was the future. I believe it was the Baylor game after a bunch of sub par QB play that I said to throw him in. It was a bad defense and he could get his feet wet. If he does well, roll with him. If he doesn't wait another year. You risk nothing because I feel the staff knew he would be the guy in 2013. I think at times they are just too risk averse in terms of playing guys early unless you absolutely need it. If you don't redshirt a guy you have four years to make up for that lost year in recruiting.

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