I tried too E17-Ecomorph in Ubuntu for many months but it doesn't compare to Elive in the end,and for many other reasons.If you want the perfect E17-Ecomorph desktop shell and the most beatifull ,best Linux distro,you end up with Elive.

I have Elive installed for a while but it became very slow since 2 mounths (see my post dated 28 january; no answer to date). That is why I was happy to download the new stable release.Well the updater failed to modify my menu.lst file. My nVidia graphic card is detected but cannot be configured with the right driver. The updater crashes each time I need to go back. And now I am obliged to pay something if I want to have a chance to see if Elive will work or no on my computer.Looks like I will install Enlightenment in my Sidux instead

That's why there are 2 stable versions,one with the newer kernel 2.6.30.9 with support for ext4 and reiser4 filesystems and the other one with the older kernel 2.6.26.8 with support for older ATI graphical cards and hardware.If you have problems with one try the other one too.For example on my old system from my sig it works better the older kernel,the newer one was giving me total desktop freezings and pppoe internet connection interruptions and instability.

Verdegal37,You're right, trying Elive in liveCD mode is a good idea. For my own, I previously tried to launch Elive in virtual mode using qemu. But it far too long and I didn't go to the end of the process.On the other hand, I know yet Elive since it is already installed on my hardware. My goal is to upgrade or at least to repair my installation which is a bit broken now. And I'm not very confident in the updater of Elive, and the liveCD mode won't help me in this matter.

If in fact you've installed Elive Live CD bit will help, anyway you can copy the xorg from the live cd and then put it in the version installed.I gather that you have installed a development version.I use Nvidia with the new kernel, I have no problem.

Greetings:Agust

PS:When you install or start Live CD mode, you have several options for Nvidia cards, try a different option, simply an older driver may be better than new.Also remember the fellow stanca comment on the installation of kernels

wsonar Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Sure it looks awesome but what is the difference> from me just installing E17 on my debian distro?>> IIt has already pissed me off that I wasted a cd> on something I can't install>> I'd love to write articles saying how great it is> and possible even donate if I wasn't forced too>> instead it will be quite the opposite

From my experience with over 10 years of using Linux, e17 is not as stable on any distro as it is with Elive. I have not tried OpenGU. Right now I am dual booting with Debian Squeeze and Elive Topaz. I have e17svn installed on Squeeze but from time to time I get a freeze while on Squeeze or I get a message to either "recover" or "reboot". Other than that e17 gives you the eye candy from any distro depending on your customization.

So far as I found out untill now I can confirm that elive runs smoothly and much more stable than all other distros with E17. For Open GEU it is the same as Moon OS, both are running fine on the Live CD. If you have installed them there are some issues depends on its base system Ubuntu. Sometimes a freeze. But Open GEU has some nice features and modules. An important decision is done by the developers of Open GEU. They will switch their base system from Ubuntu to Debian. I think this will take some time. But it become an interesting project in future. Never tried Oz Os, Any experience with it?

The answer is very simple, if you want a smooth working and the most up-to-date and complete e17 with ecomorph then elive is the only option.

I have tried all the ubuntu based e17 distros, the SuSe e17 distro, I have even manually installed e17 and ecomorph on both ubuntu and Suse and well, I have the unstable versions of elive installed on my laptop and desktop not ubuntu or suse.

Yes elive has issues but it is still better performance wise than ubuntu and suse when it comes to how light weight it is compared to the other 2. So if you have any beef with elive, post your requests and possible solutions to the issues you are having on the wish list section of the forum.

For me personally the only thing I want on elive is Globus/quick-view and support for wpa-e and maybe support for more than 4gig or ram.

I can not blame elive for people like ATI being lazy and not developing proper drivers for linux. This was why I switched from usig ATI graphics cards to NVidia cards.

That's perfect!! I will have a better look at the installer when I'm ready to put my desktop back together again.

4gig+ of RAM is really the only thing 64bit OS are good for (at least at this point in time) and if Elive can handle that without being a 64bit OS and give my quad-cores a bit more of a boost with more RAM then I'm happy.

You are getting informed when you just start install. But anyway, you can use LiveElive as long as you need it. No donation needed. Remeber: You can install it with no money, just get a invintationAnd your link going to just one sized post. Because see that? Remeber: You can install it with no money, just get a invintation codeAnd Please do not try looks so smart untill you'll read FAQ. [www.elivecd.org]Thank you.

Unless you are new to Elive, you will know the pay-per-install thing has been in the works for a while now. Also with Elive 1 you had to pay to download it.

So payment is not an important issue, especially when you think that you pay over $100 for OS-X or Windows compared to the min $15 you pay for Elive. The most important thing is exactly how this payment works for multiple installs and re-installs if one should break an existing install of Elive 2.0. I don't know the exact details of this yet but I am not going to be installing Elive 2 for another couple of months. Most likely will just clone both hard drives after installing and make regular system backups.

And Again FREE in Linux talk does not and has NEVER mean't "FREE of CASH" it means "FREE CODE". Linux is an Open Source Platform it is not a Cash free OS. Debian is sponsored by the EU if I remember correctly and as I pointed out above ubuntu and SuSe have deep pockets when it comes to financial backing. If you go through the list of major Linux Distros you will find that most of them have backing by some big organisation and the smaller or derivative versions like Elive struggle to fund servers and other things and so constantly ask for donations.

Because it is worth it every penny.I switched last year from Linux distros to OpenBSD. Most top Linuxdistros are become too bloated.Elive 2.0 with it's E17 is nice and refreshing. There are few bugs hereand there, but you find it in any OS especially running larger windowmanagers.Look at it as you pay $15.00 for the convenience put it together.You could download Debian and install E17 on it, but it takes some timeand knowledge to do it wright.

I agree with you Mako Elite. Most of the mainstream linux distros are becoming way too bloated, and Ub*ntu-like. Elive is still very unique, lite, and easy to use for most common tasks. It keeps my older R60 laptop running fast and smooth!$15 can buy a steak dinner. I would happily buy someone a steak dinner for investing a lot of their time creating something that makes my life better. Elive is easily worth a steak dinner to me.