My daughter’s dad wants her birth certificate or passport.

Hi

Can someone give me some advice or tell me where to find the info i'm looking for?

I split (never married) with my daughters dad when she was a baby (she is nearly 6) and he has always had contact with her which I encourage. Our relationship use to be amicable but of recent it has gone bad. He says he wants to open a bank account for our daughter so he needs her passport or birth certificate to do so. I do not trust him or his family anymore due to recent events. Do I by law have to give him these documents? Surely if he really needs her birth certificate her can apply for one, can't he? She already has a valid passport; can her dad apply for another one and take her out the country without my permission/knowledge? I'm so scared and not sure where to turn. It's got to the stage now where I'm not sure if he will bring her back after her bi weekly weekend visit to his place. His always sounding off about him having the same amount of parental responsibility as I do. I know this and understand what it means. Surely I shouldn’t be an emotional wreck each time she goes off to her dads!

He can get her BC from the office she was registered at but he cant apply for a passport for her if she already has one, might be worth informing the passport office of your suspicious incase he claims hers is lost. Maybe you could offer to open the bank account and pass him the details?

You could always open a abnk account for her yourself and give her dad the details of it so he can pay money in whenever he wants to.

I'm with the other posters on this one.........if he wants a copy of the birth certificate so badly then he can apply for one himself ( I wouldn't inform him of this unless he pushes for the info though!) and I would contact the passport office and get some advice from them as far as him possibly applying for another passport goes. If they are aware of the situation they will probably put a flag on your daughters details and be aware of any future applications being suspicious. If he is from another country and applies for a passport for your daughter there, at least this country should be aware of any future possible problems if he tries to take her out of the country.

will the bank accept photocopies which you could give him, or go to the bank with him?

Due to stringent money laundering rules, any instution that handles money has to have sight of original documents not photocopies or, if they are copies, they must be certified to be true copies by a solicitor.

This is to ensure no fake accounts are set up to launder money (drugs or fraudulent transactions).

if you are so concerned about Lo's safety go and get a residential order (formally custody order) then it would be illegal for him to disappear with her. but the advice about passport office is also useful.. can you not get it linked directly to your passport till she is about 12?

he is entitled to a copy of her birth certificate but most registry offices charge for them so that may put him off initially.

ok but if you have such a concern that he will go off with ur daugher..why do you keep putting her to her dad?? have you raised concerns with the courts or lawyers or anyone else thats involved with the access rights etc??

and why are u so scared of him opening a bank account for her?? to open a bank account for a child u genuinely need these documents so i dont get why you would have reason to be suspicious of him lying to you (from this post anyway..there could be other reasons u have mentioned so if u have got other reasons i apologise)

i just dont get why there is all this suspicion when all her dad wants to do is open a b/account for his daughter

ok but if you have such a concern that he will go off with ur daugher..why do you keep putting her to her dad?? have you raised concerns with the courts or lawyers or anyone else thats involved with the access rights etc??

and why are u so scared of him opening a bank account for her?? to open a bank account for a child u genuinely need these documents so i dont get why you would have reason to be suspicious of him lying to you (from this post anyway..there could be other reasons u have mentioned so if u have got other reasons i apologise)

i just dont get why there is all this suspicion when all her dad wants to do is open a b/account for his daughter

If you have never been in a situation where a parent who originates from another country has made subtle hints about removing your child or taking them away from your care permanently, then you will never understand. You will find that these people (and before I get jumped on I didn't specify whether it was the father or mother), will use all means possible to get the information they need to do so. They will use cunning and will obviously not come and say outright what their intentions are!!!! In this situation, if he does have ulterior motives, will come come outright and say that he wants to do that will he!

If he has been to a bank to open an account, they will tell him what miminal documents he needs, therefore they will have told him there is no need for both.

ok but if you have such a concern that he will go off with ur daugher..why do you keep putting her to her dad?? have you raised concerns with the courts or lawyers or anyone else thats involved with the access rights etc??

and why are u so scared of him opening a bank account for her?? to open a bank account for a child u genuinely need these documents so i dont get why you would have reason to be suspicious of him lying to you (from this post anyway..there could be other reasons u have mentioned so if u have got other reasons i apologise)

i just dont get why there is all this suspicion when all her dad wants to do is open a b/account for his daughter

If you have never been in this situation then you wouldn't understand, but I have and I totally get where the OP is coming from. Some fathers would unfortunately stoop so low as to make up this kind of excuse to get the passport from the mother and then you will never get it back. I have been through this - I applied for a passport for my child and they rejected the photo at the p office, so dad of child said he would sort the passport for me and "save me money". We were on fairly good terms at that time. Then we fell out and lo and behold he would not hand over the passport for our child, and basically lied and said he would rather destroy it than let me have it. How childish . So he told me he did destroy it and to get a new one so I applied and did just that at a cost of £82.00 just cus he is a total w*****, but not without me having to verify it to the passport office and tell them the idiot had destroyed it. They were very wary but obviously they have to do these checks. I got the passport and there is no way it is ever leaving my possession now after what he has done. With my first husband we just passed it back n forth to each other as and when required.

Unfortunately if you have never experienced a control freak bully then you do not know what lengths these men will go to . Oh and he did try and abduct our child three years ago, that is why I am wary about giving it to him.