Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Nazis

Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole
when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.

Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with
Nazis

Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole
when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.

........ 2nd hand body armor and a half broken rifle loaded with cheap Russian steel cased ammo just waiting for "them" to come and shake you down
for all your cold steel.

Augustus,

I have to take you to task on the 'half broken rifle loaded with cheap russian steel cased ammo" comment. This little beauty runs just fine on
ancient surplus corrosive crud and keeps a good pattern. Of coarse since it's had a facelift everyone will think its 'evil'... but in a way it
kinda is.

Oh Carp! Sorry bout that! I'm blaming it on being new to forums and the reply with quotes button.

To the OP, my point is still valid since that is a $75 Big5 special from 1936 Russia with a few mods. It kept a better pattern at 200 yards than a
Remington 700 chambered in .308 last time it went to the range. (.308 is a comparably sized round to this rifle).

##snipped##if you think the people won't win. The people always win. The problem arises when they allow usurpation to be invited after they win.

There are so many more people than government that there's no choice but to win.

Do you honestly think that curfews and martial law would work in government's favor?

I promise you out wouldn't.

The main reason that people win when fighting tyranny is that it's easy for the people fighting against tyranny to know who the tyrants are but it's
virtually impossible for tyrants to know who belongs to the resistance.

Small arms and improvised weapons are more than enough under those circumstances to hold off and prevail against a known easily identifiable enemy.

SWCCFAN
I think there is growing momentum on both sides of the argument.

However our side, the Right one ... Imagine that leftist, is actually backed up bu the Constitution.

If you do not learn from our own history you will be doomed to live through a repeat of it.

Evils are sufferable but when a government seeks to deny us the right
s guaranteed by the Constitution they agreed with to become a state,
they will leave the people with no choice but to stand and defend those
rights.

ManFromEurope
Meh, I learned from these threads: Don't come armed with logic to a gun-antigun-fight.
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The core of all thoughts here is simple: If you have guns, the other one will have guns, too. So you need more/better/bigger guns. Which goes for the
other person as well.

Result: spiral of logic-defying weapon-purchases. And not a yota-tiny-bit more security..

that's a lovely opinion....too bad it's not based on facts....

answer me these simple questions:

do criminals have guns?

will ANY law stop criminals from having guns?

is it unreasonable to expect the ability to defend yourself on the same terms as your attacker?

the simple fact is that there is NO logic to the anti-gun side of the debate....it's all lies, appeals to emotion, and knee-jerk reactions....name me
one place that previously allowed gun ownership, that is safer after having banned it.

if you own a gun, and some armed villain breaks into your home, with the intent to do harm, and you use that gun to stop him, i daresay that provided
you with a measure of security....or do you disagree with that, as well?

Okay, it was a long time ago, but I will answer nevertheless:

Last year, there was a raid on a local headquarter of a chapter of "Hell's Angels"-gang. They found several blunt weapons, knifes, axes. Not a
single gun, pistol, rifle, or any other kind of shooting-weapon.

So, yes, there are countries with criminals who really, really seldom have access or use of a gun. Just think about such a country, wouldn't it be
much more favorable to live there?

ManFromEurope
Meh, I learned from these threads: Don't come armed with logic to a gun-antigun-fight.
---
The core of all thoughts here is simple: If you have guns, the other one will have guns, too. So you need more/better/bigger guns. Which goes for the
other person as well.

Result: spiral of logic-defying weapon-purchases. And not a yota-tiny-bit more security..

that's a lovely opinion....too bad it's not based on facts....

answer me these simple questions:

do criminals have guns?

will ANY law stop criminals from having guns?

is it unreasonable to expect the ability to defend yourself on the same terms as your attacker?

the simple fact is that there is NO logic to the anti-gun side of the debate....it's all lies, appeals to emotion, and knee-jerk reactions....name me
one place that previously allowed gun ownership, that is safer after having banned it.

if you own a gun, and some armed villain breaks into your home, with the intent to do harm, and you use that gun to stop him, i daresay that provided
you with a measure of security....or do you disagree with that, as well?

Okay, it was a long time ago, but I will answer nevertheless:

Last year, there was a raid on a local headquarter of a chapter of "Hell's Angels"-gang. They found several blunt weapons, knifes, axes. Not a
single gun, pistol, rifle, or any other kind of shooting-weapon.

So, yes, there are countries with criminals who really, really seldom have access or use of a gun. Just think about such a country, wouldn't it be
much more favorable to live there?

ManFromEurope
Okay, it was a long time ago, but I will answer nevertheless:

Last year, there was a raid on a local headquarter of a chapter of "Hell's Angels"-gang. They found several blunt weapons, knifes, axes. Not a
single gun, pistol, rifle, or any other kind of shooting-weapon.

So, yes, there are countries with criminals who really, really seldom have access or use of a gun. Just think about such a country, wouldn't it be
much more favorable to live there?

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