My friend tried to argue that people who play mobile games to kill time are just as much of a gamer as people who play serious games.Than i asked him if people who only watch blockbuster movies can be considered movie buffs.Or if people who only listen to popular music can be considered true music fans.I wont argue that people who arent serious gamers dont deserve to play video games.But you cant grope them together whit a real gamer.Tats like saying that someone who only watches dubbed TV anime is a actual anime fan.

>>256166849I spend 60% of many of waking hours playing video games.And sometimes i watching good anime or good western tv series.I hate the whole gamer culture thing.But i do categorize myself as a classic gamer nerd.Perhaps a retro gamer considering i play many older emulated games regularly.

People who take their hobby seriously instead of just doing it to kill time are pathetic losers with nothing else going for them in life. Why does your friend WANT to be grouped in with them in the first place?

Even WE don't want to be grouped in with them and we ARE them. That's why we hide our power levels and pretend we only play casual games or don't play video games at all when we are around other people.

Then you aren't a real nerd. Only BBT-watching posers want to show off how "nerdy" they are. Real nerds are ashamed of their abnormality, and hide it to fit in. A real nerd minus the shame and social awareness is an autist.

>>256166739Wow. I don't think that anyone could write a string of propositions like this together on the intent of being serious. They would be a colossal faggot otherwise.

Get the fuck off of /v/ and 4chan in general. It will be the best decision of your life. You will once again find things in life that you enjoy, instead of being a faggot and nitpicking every tiny thing in video games because 4chan doesn't like it.

>>256169497And if they don't like it, they can stop paying. Otherwise whoever may be benefiting from it can continue to exploit it. Apparently the gubment isn't doing a thing about Welfare or autismbux. So why even care.

>>256168784No they are a form of entertainment just like books, movies, tv, music etc. Get fucked you redditor.

>>256168986>hiding your power level>not just being alpha and showing your power level while also being a funny and charming guy

The spotty, glass-wearing geek in the corner saying "N-no I dont play videogames in my f-free time, I just do... stuff, y-yeah..." is a lot worse than the fun guy saying "Yeah i've been playing this game called Killing Floor, it's some crazy fun shit."

>>256172821You can't be alpha while showing your power level.Having a power level in the first place is by definition beta as fuck.If you were alpha you would be out having a great life partying and banging chicks instead of wasting all your time on nerdy shit to escape from your misery and loneliness.

>>256171680>Implying people hated bronies for their interests and not for the same reason people hated furries in general (i.e. their soapbox preacher mentality and shoving their shit into everyone's throats)

It's like people seem to forget that you can enjoy things and not be a glowing disco ball of eternal faggotry.

>>256173029It's obvious that you're just trying to bait me but i'll bite.

You can be alpha while having a powerlevel. Besides, there isn't a specific measurement for a power level

Hardly anyone spends all of their time partying and banging chicks. Some people do normal shit during the week and then go out on the weekend.

The most important thing isn't hiding your powerlevel, it's just presenting it in the right way. For example, you shouldn't be all "Yes, I have been playing Metal Gear Rising Revengeance. It is developed by Platinum Games and is a cuhrazy action game. (blah blah blah) It was so fucking epic when Raiden did this thing with his sword and then the badass music plays, here take a listen to it" (also the guy saying this makes sound effects during the conversation).

However, if you're just like "Yeah i've been playing an action game called Metal Gear Rising, it's fun but pretty hard (for normalfags it would be, so fuck off autists)" then that's fine.

>>256173682But why is talking about games inherently autistic? The people who try to hide the fact that they play games and pretend to be cool and normal tend to be a lot more retarded and nerdy than the people who don't hide it.

>>256173835>IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW I PLAY GAMES, THEY WON'T KNOW MY PERSONALITY REVOLVES AROUND THEMwhat a life.>You have to tell everyone you meet you play gamesI can agree with this.Being a "gamer" should be on par with being a sex offender.

>>256172190Wow, Anon, you are the most undesirable beta faggot I have ever come across.

What's the fucking point in having hobbies or even passions If you'd drop them just to be part of the social norm?Why the fuck would you let that dictate you're life? So long as this shit doesn't define your whole character, and you can still hold on to healthy relationships with friends or lovers, then you're good.

>>256168986What a horrible opinion, why shouldn't I take a hobby seriously? So long a s I'm not shoving it down people's throats and do what I mentioned in my last paragraph, it's fine.

>>256172190Jesus, have you faggots never experienced anything besides video games and the internet?It's not THAT great, don't get me wrong, parties and clubs can be a blast, but what it all boils down to is drinking and dancing.It gets old fast.Man, some of you people scare me. I feel as though most of you would try to marry the first woman who kisses you.

>>256173835>The people who try to hide the fact that they play games and pretend to be cool and normal tend to be a lot more retarded and nerdy than the people who don't hide it.That's why we hide it you fucking dumbass. Being a nerd is bad. A real nerd is smart enough to know that and be ashamed. The people who don't hide it are either normal, well-adjusted people who only do it to kill time or huge cringeworthy autists.

>>256174297>why shouldn't I take a hobby seriously?Because taking a hobby seriously means you don't have a social life, sex, or relationships to fill up your life, so you retreat into escapism to fill the void like the pathetic failure you are.

>>256174297I think anon believes that the grass is greener on the other side to him.It's the exact same, apart from instead of loneliness it's drama, responsibilities and being skint because clubs are fucking expensive shitholes.

>>256174297>What's the fucking point in having hobbies or even passions If you'd drop them just to be part of the social norm?Escapism, because I can't be part of the social norm.

>So long as this shit doesn't define your whole character, and you can still hold on to healthy relationships with friends or lovers, then you're good.If you could be doing fulfilling things like hanging out with friends or getting laid, then why would you ever waste time doing anything else?

>>256174673So you're ashamed of being a failure and now want to apply that to everyone else?Plus, you seem to have never had friends or a social life, I can take my hobby seriously during the week because we all have work and such, and go out with them on the weekends.

>>256174627But you seem like one of those faggots that think your opinion is law and your taste is perfect.I wouldn't want to talk about games with you, since all you would do was go, "That's casual, that's casual, that's fake fun, that's dudebro game" and so on.You are an embodiment of faggotry.God, I've seen faggots like you, you would be the one that would here someone talk about a game you heard on the internet was casual and you would say so, and when they asked why you didn't like it, you would most likely go, "Oh, I've never played it."

>>256166739>Tats like saying that someone who only watches dubbed TV anime is a actual anime fan.This is not like your other examples. They are still enjoying the same shows, they are just doing so in a different language.I hate anime and even I can see this!

>>256172190Stop trying to project that beta shit on me, I spend more time on here than is probably healthy, but that doesn't mean that I'm a fat, stuttering autist that can't talk to people outside of the Internet.

Has it hit you that some of us like to do this and live semi-normally at the same time?

I don't go to parties and such so often because I simply don't enjoy it very much(it can be fun sometimes), it really isn't as great as in your fantasies.

>>256174994Because I enjoy it you fucking cry baby, I don't do shit I don't enjoy like whiny little bitches such as yourself.

Look why don't you just try going to a fucking club to see if you would enjoy it? It's not hard to get pissed, it's not hard to get women pissed either. if you're really too afraid to see if you'd enjoy it, then well, enjoy digging that little hole deeper for yourself.

>>256176136People who aren't miserable virgins don't care about video games.We don't care about them either, we only play them because we are miserable virgins.Anyone who tells you anything different is lying.

>>256176390>we we weStop projecting on the rest of us, you fucking loser.

There's literally nothing wrong with playing videogames or being a virgin, the only important thing is how you act and about it.

It's not weird to anyone that you play videogames as pretty much all young males do it some extent(even though it's only sports/racing), just don't be a sperging autist about it.

And when talking about games, just keep it on their level. Like if someone asks you about Skyrim, you can simply tell them that you've played it and that you aren't too fond of it because you've played a lot of similar but more complex games, then you can casually just recommend some games that you like, if you want to. You don't have to start talking about Todd Howard's lies, bring up charts and start screaming about ruined lore, then you are doing it wrong, in a public setting.

I can't believe that some of you find videogames to be such a social taboo.

>>256166739Are people really disagreeing with OP here or is this just shitposting reaction to the use of the word gamer?

Someone playing Bejeweled for 30 seconds at the bus stop when no one responded to their texts saying yeah im totally a nerd is bs just as much as me claiming to be into classical stageplays because I watched Dane Cook do standup

>>256177158Maybe virginity itself isn't bad BUT it holds a fuckload of heavily loaded implication of your persona and physique since virginity means you have been incapable of getting intimately together with another person.Only way to end up a perma-virgin is having crippling social malfunctions in your brain or neglecting your health so bad you are a ball of lard or something equally as bad.

>>256177158There is everything wrong with being a virgin you fucking loser. Losing your virginity is a rite of passage, a sign that you have the bare minimum amount of social skills to pass as a socially functional human being.Not to mention that biologically speaking, our only purpose is to pass the test of natural selection by having children, and then making sure that those children grow up to have their own children.

>>256177980>>256177980Ok? What is your point. The point of contention here is declaring yourself a dedicated hobbyist when in reality, you have a fleeting interest at best.A movie is a movie but going to see Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles doesn't make you a cinephile

>>256178228The only people who would declare themselves a dedicated hobbyist ARE people with a fleeting interest.People who are actually dedicated to a hobby are aware that it's pathetic and don't let anybody know about it.

>4.3 global kdr in one of the CoDs, I forget which one>unlocked all League champs, reached diamond rank, saved up allowance and bought every skin>one of the top 50 Battlefield 4 players able to connect to and finish a match>downloaded DOTA 2>defeated Alduin, became Arch-Mage, assassinated the king, leader of the Fighter's Guild and Theive's Guild, all on a single character >beat Dark Souls, the hardest game of all time. Twice. >also a retro gamer (I love my Gamecube)>have over 100 unplayed games in my steam account

Is this enough to apply to be a hardcore gamer, I don't want to be rejected and have to do it again

>>256178228but seeing a movie like that doesn't automatically mean you aren't on either.Besides, Michael Bay isn't like Bejeweled, thats a hollywood blockbuster. Use a blockbuster game. Games are just games, if they play tetris all day I bet they get pretty good at it, and develop a skill. >>256178446you can stop now, i think you've gotten everyone

>>256177395>>256177925>>256178048There is everything wrong with it if you are actively trying, but not succeeding. But if you make your reasons clear, then there isn't any more to it. Sex is just pleasure of the flesh, only a true degenerate would herald it like you do.

>>256178024I live in Sweden, believe it or not. I'm not a Swede, though, I'm an Eastern Orthodox Serb, and I don't wish nor need to sleep with random whores to feel like a real man. The last time this came was like two months ago when a friend of mine was jokingly mocking me in front a girl, by asking me to explain why I'm still a virgin, to which I responded that I don't want to just fuck some random person because I believe in commitment and respect(towards partners and those close to you. Her response was that it's very commendable and a good thing.

People just don't care as long as you don't, I guess it's kind of required to not be socially repulsive otherwise, though. And it's not like shit like this comes up often, because why the fuck would it?

>>256179202There is no fixing it. moot tried to fix /r9k/ by deleting it and all that happened was that they spread out and ruined every other board with their infectious touch of crippling loneliness and self-hatred.

>>256178646>bejeweled isn't a blockbuster gameit's pretty damn big, I get your point though. Skyrim and hitting up CoD multiplayer with your boys would still not really cut it. There's nothing wrong with indulging in it every now and then but there's still a clear distinction to be found. Technically it's actually a question of attitude and passion as opposed to a checklist of "These games = hardcore dedicated, These games = casual faggot scum" HOWEVER, the mindset of a real ass nigga often accompanies a certain caliber of game over others. The odds that you'll be really passionate about gaming and the industry while limiting yourself to triple A blockbuster games are just low as hell as opposed to someone who has broader horizons, takes into account foreign productions and experiences less popular genres. The odds of finding a casual dudebro who likes RTS games are astronomical

>>256179715>there really isn't much to discussexactly, you don't know what you're talking about. Chivalrous (holy shit I can't believe you're using that word) and respectable have nothing to do with not having sex. Independent is even further off. Why haven't you had a girlfriend you care enough about to be intimate with?

>>256179276God moo 2 was great. Loved the fact that is you researched enough you could fit stellar converters on some pretty small ships. Blow up small useless planets and turn them into large ones that can be terraform into lush green state. 2001 seemed so far away.

>>256179715So in your mind not fucking girls is 'chilvarous'? So if a random slut is dripping wet in front of you ready for the dick, not even drunk or drugged up, you not hitting that is 'chilvarous'? That's some fedore logic if I've ever heard it, you permavirgin

>>256179715Your posts bore me to tears.>>256179759Yeah, but who the fuck cares what someone calls themselves? If they play a game and say they're a gamer, who am I to correct them? Go ahead its a fine enough word for you.

>>256179783But I do speak to them a lot, I just haven't gotten there yet.

Besides, I want to find one of my own(or at least other Slav), not marry a native to this country. Which creates another obstacle there, since I spend most of my time here still.

>Chivalrous (holy shit I can't believe you're using that word) English is my third language, doesn't that mean that you're honest, decent and honorable?

>Chivalrous (holy shit I can't believe you're using that word) and respectable have nothing to do with not having sexIt does, you have to be able to stay away from such simple pleasures and focus your mind on better things. What do you even gain from having sex with strangers?

> Independent is even further offHow so? I think that you should do what you feel is right, no matter what the current trend of your society is.

>Why haven't you had a girlfriend you care enough about to be intimate with?I honestly can't answer this. I haven't even really been in any serious relationships either. I mean honestly, if I'd be completely normal on the inside as well, I probably wouldn't be having this discussion on an Japanese imageboard, either.

>>256180156>So in your mind not fucking girls is 'chilvarous'?Well, yes. Are you familiar with Christianity?

>So if a random slut is dripping wet in front of you ready for the dick, not even drunk or drugged up, you not hitting that is 'chilvarous'?Honestly sounds like a pretty disgusting scenario. Why would she even act like that without us even doing anything prior to it?

>That's some fedore logic if I've ever heard it, you permavirginIt's the opposite of "le fedora maymay", you don't see me crying on websites that I can't get laid or type "tfw no gf" and shit like that.

4x. eXpand, eXploit, eXplore, eXterminate. I recommend MOO2 simply because of how it best represents the archetype. There's Civilization as well, but has horrible AI. More recent offerings such as Endless Space are okay, but more on the casual side of things.

I'm not sure how one could ever consider themselves a hardcore gamer without at least being passingly familiar with what a 4x is.

>>256181534I'm more so just giving you shit for being a lame guy. You just sound boring, talking about honor and chivalry as if you're a knight or something.But sex has nothing to do with being respectable.

But the best thing about le fedora maymay is that you can apply it to literally anyone you disagree with.

Think sex is the greatest thing in life? Fat fedora virgin who has hyped up sex too much and doesn't realize it's not a big deal.Don't think sex is a big deal? Fat fedora virgin who is sour graping because he knows he'll never be able to experience the greatest thing in life.

>>256181534>So in your mind not fucking girls is 'chilvarous'?>Well, yes. Are you familiar with Christianity?I could've agreed with you, but this is retarded.Every person who thinks this has some kind of developmental problems or just extremely infantile, not even joking.Go have sex, don't be a retard with these 'principles'. Just don't be a super whore about it.

>>256176924Maybe some of us with fulfilling life consider games a fun hobby, too. Especially because a fulfilling life leaves you with some free time to do semething you enjoy, like playing and arguing with autist like you. If you don't like games, you should try something else.

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