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i sieved some leafs from some less then perfect leafs. the trichs were nice, but the leafs got all fucked up due to issues im having. anyways. the kief that i produced was gnarly!! its hella sticky. when you roll it in your fingers it turns to hash, and it melts like some "clear dome melt". it bubbles up and gets all crusty looking, but its still gooey!! i personally love its constancy. i do not know if its in the trichromes or what it is? but my last batch of keif i made was nothing like this. it was just normal keif. if i can get some pics ill see about posting them up.

You can soak the kif in butane using a thermos, or use alcohol to extract the oil. Don't worry about long soak times, most of the chlorophyll and water solubles have already been removed from the equasion.

After it is extracted, you can treat it like any other oil when it comes to subsequent processing into shatter or wax.

You can soak the kif in butane using a thermos, or use alcohol to extract the oil. Don't worry about long soak times, most of the chlorophyll and water solubles have already been removed from the equasion.

After it is extracted, you can treat it like any other oil when it comes to subsequent processing into shatter or wax.

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I dont have any BHO equipment and I am trying to avoid the expense of purchasing it, while simultaneously finding a more natural method to come up with a similar result.

I could. But then I wouldn't be working towards my goal of discovering the best method for coming up with an oil/wax final result from kief.

Solvent less full melt is the goal.

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My bad, I didn't notice that requirement in your question.

Define full melt? All kif has components that don't melt, so you would have to rid yourself of those to truly be full melt. Besides the stalks, even the heads have an inert disc, so Full Melt bubble, really means very little solids left behind.

If you are looking for Full Melt Bubble ("mostly" full melt concentrate), you might check out Bubbleman's and Matt Rizes sites, where that is their specialty and they do a fine job.

If not a solvent, you might consider heat.

Rosin extraction works well, but is slow and the yield low.

Vaporizing it and re-condensing it would give you a decarboxylated full melt concentrate.

Dry steam works well for the mono and sesquiterpenes, but is a stretch for the heavier diterpene cannabinoids.

Define full melt? All kif has components that don't melt, so you would have to rid yourself of those to truly be full melt. Besides the stalks, even the heads have an inert disc, so Full Melt bubble, really means very little solids left behind.

If you are looking for Full Melt Bubble ("mostly" full melt concentrate), you might check out Bubbleman's and Matt Rizes sites, where that is their specialty and they do a fine job.

If not a solvent, you might consider heat.

Rosin extraction works well, but is slow and the yield low.

Vaporizing it and re-condensing it would give you a decarboxylated full melt concentrate.

Dry steam works well for the mono and sesquiterpenes, but is a stretch for the heavier diterpene cannabinoids.

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No problem, I appreciate your constructive post now that you understand! You bring up a lot of good points. I guess to put it better, I am looking to produce the most melty and potent hash without using a solvent. Yield is not too much of a concern as with the method used, I am able to reclaim 100% of the material.

I've tried rosin, but didn't get too good of a result with my attempts. I have been using a beat and heat process to break the trichs and cook off the excess water, but with low enough temps that the terpenes are preserved.

If you have any ideas on how to improve the method, please by all means try it out and post the results.