ok just kinda curious I think yumi's have some of the best specials in game I know its a slow bow normally but it can rock I have a yumi that has 25 mana leech ,balanced, 36 di, and only 10 ssi and it rocks wish it had 35 or 40 ssi I also have several others like undead slayer 30 ssi and some di (think 20) and if I hit with dual shot there are not many undead that can stand up to it! I guess my question is why are there not more out there I know they are harder to make but holy smoke these are good bows I would easily pay 10 times the amount of other bows to get one with say 35 ssi 35 mana leech balanced, and some hld or hci and if it has di fine if not my suit covers it even stam leech would be good mana leech is a must though for me! I did a search on one of the sites for yumis and got like 15 on all shards combined do you all think they are that bad?

Peopel dont like wasting charges on insane hard to get heartwood kits trying to make these , the elven bows are sooo much harder to make exceptional thats its stupid , not to talk about the chance for a complete failure to make anything !!

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ok just kinda curious I think yumi's have some of the best specials in game I know its a slow bow normally but it can rock I have a yumi that has 25 mana leech ,balanced, 36 di, and only 10 ssi and it rocks wish it had 35 or 40 ssi I also have several others like undead slayer 30 ssi and some di (think 20) and if I hit with dual shot there are not many undead that can stand up to it! I guess my question is why are there not more out there I know they are harder to make but holy smoke these are good bows I would easily pay 10 times the amount of other bows to get one with say 35 ssi 35 mana leech balanced, and some hld or hci and if it has di fine if not my suit covers it even stam leech would be good mana leech is a must though for me! I did a search on one of the sites for yumis and got like 15 on all shards combined do you all think they are that bad?

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I think you have a pretty valid question. I think the answer lies within well...my opinion that like in every online MMPORG game, people pigeonhole as far as what is the "BEST" Weapon to use.

As far as people wanting to make money though, they will make what will sell and is "popular." Popular reflects trends primarily.

If you are like me then well, trends don't matter. I agree with you though. Yumi is one of my favorite bow types to use. Nothing like killing powerful mobs in a couple of hits using the specials that said bow provides.

If you don't have a fletcher, next best thing is to find a fletcher friend and offer to provide a kit. I'm sure they wouldn't mind as long as they got to keep a bow themselves. At least I wouldn't anyways.

Just a note though, tell them not to bother if they don't have a descent fletching talisman. I highly recommend at least 20 and 20 for making the higher end bows.

I think you have a pretty valid question. I think the answer lies within well...my opinion that like in every online MMPORG game, people pigeonhole as far as what is the "BEST" Weapon to use.

As far as people wanting to make money though, they will make what will sell and is "popular." Popular reflects trends primarily.

If you are like me then well, trends don't matter. I agree with you though. Yumi is one of my favorite bow types to use. Nothing like killing powerful mobs in a couple of hits using the specials that said bow provides.

If you don't have a fletcher, next best thing is to find a fletcher friend and offer to provide a kit. I'm sure they wouldn't mind as long as they got to keep a bow themselves. At least I wouldn't anyways.

Just a note though, tell them not to bother if they don't have a descent fletching talisman. I highly recommend at least 20 and 20 for making the higher end bows.

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thank you thought it was just me and if you have a archer and no Fletcher I think you have problems to start with
as for me I have taken just the oak kit and combined it with the different woods and gotten some nice yumi's as a matter of fact i recommend using them to make them they are way cheep and I always get at least one decent bow out a them! for yumi's that is!

oh and yes I think I use a 24 exceptional bonus one (would have to look) and no normal bonus then I have a like 20/20 tali just depends what i am making

Because most kits are burned for pvp. Right now, concussion blow (and by extension, crossbows) is the special of choice due to its huge damage. But people are slowly learning the immense effectiveness of double shot in PvP. A hit spell bow can easily do 70 damage, so you'll probably see much more of these pop up once concussion blow is nerfed.

They're really hard to make anything worthwhile. And trying to farm one to enhance... well... that's just as hard if not harder than burning a kit for one as the loot spawn in Tokuno really sucks butt unless you do the Peerless. Even then you have slim to no chance of anything to write home about.

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They're really hard to make anything worthwhile. And trying to farm one to enhance... well... that's just as hard if not harder than burning a kit for one as the loot spawn in Tokuno really sucks butt unless you do the Peerless. Even then you have slim to no chance of anything to write home about.

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Yeah I agree with you. Farming for good ones to enhance you might spend many a month trying to get some descent ones. Very difficult indeed.

As far as trends though, nerfing damage or otherwise, I cannot see these becoming mainstream. Basically for the reason that you already mentioned. Higher difficulty rate than crossbows or heavy's.

i hunt the tsk wolves about 1 in 7 or 8 seems to give me a yumi about 1in10 of those is worth moding and about 1in 3 of those servives the mod attempt depending on the stats of the bow your skill at fletching etc so about 1 in every 250 wolves you get a keeper plus the 250k gold you get and leather not to mention other items this seems to be the best bet i have found

Off the top of my head... ~50 from jewelry, 20 from talisman, 25 from stormgrip, 10 from faction mace and shield?

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55 jewels(ring essence 30)20 talisman,25 storm grip
very cool to not have to have the di on a weapon i can often get great weapons that just don't have di or not much for cheep as most people seem to think its important to have on a weapon

People have tried to enhance these weapons, and say that you can't... thus meaning it's already 'enhanced' with some special property. Those are the rumors...since you can't unravel anything made with a special material, I believe invasion weapons fall under that category.

Otherwise, could you imagine someone running around with a double hit spell crossbow with 50% SSI?

The most you could get on a perfect yumi w/imbueing would be 40% if you later enhanced it with Ash and succeeded. The odds of that happening...I dunno... but if you succeeded... talk about an uber weapon =)

Damn there goes my plans then. oh well guess 30 -35 ssi will be the highest i can get on any weapons i imbue....

lately i have burned a few ash fletching kit's w normal wood and have a pretty good selection of mods to hopefully make some decent bows when i get gm imbuing.

as well as 8 bronze and 2-3 copper hammers using iron ingot's......
still got about 40 dull copper hammers lying around so i can get in some practice , and see how well the process works hopefully it's not all hype...

Most you'll get is 30 SSI, unless you enhance w/Ash after using regular wood in the first place.

You can only imbue up to the highest spawning/crafted property intensity of that item w/out the use of any special material.

IE: Craft with a runic fletching kit and you get a bow with 30SSI. That's as high as you can get on a bow/melee weapon w/out further enhancing w/special material AFTER the weapon is fully imbued to what you want.

You can't enhance to 40 SSI beforehand, otherwise you will no longer be able to imbue w/other properties as it's already been enhance prior to, with a special resource. Hence the reason, if you're gonna get into imbueing, it's best to use iron ingots,leather,regular wood so you can later unravel them.

Depending on the fail/success rate, you may want to risk imbueing a bow up to 30 SSI/DI/Balance/Hit Spell etc, then take your chances at enhancing with Ash wood to get 40SSI. But you can't do it before the imbueing process. And you have to PoF the item BEFORE you imbue, otherwise you can no longer imbue.

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I'm not sure why you would want to be a little greedy to imbue a weapon that is a double wammy. Rare but good as well. It would inevitably disappear after imbuing it. Since, you won't be able to boost the duration ever again. That is the downfall.

I understand the unravelling, and you get X amount of points for X amount of intensity from that 1 item/mod.

What i'm trying to say is, you can craft a bow with a runic with regular wood, get 30 SSI, 50 Fireball, 40 DI on it. Then get ingredients/reagents from unravelling and toss on 50 Velocity onto that bow as well, since it's not made with any special material.

Thus giving you a Yumi with 30 SSI, 50 Fireball/Velocity, 40 DI. Having already PoF'd it BEFORE the imbueing process, you've got a bow with 255/255 durability.

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you pull a reagent of the items by unraveling all the mods, to get the best reagent you need about 500mod "points" which come from max mods...self repair 5 for example is a 100%mod so 100 points.

Then you get a crafting menu like in smithy (from what i gathered this lil bit is a little speculation) to create a mod group choice requiring a certain amount of gems.

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My point was, and I could be wrong about this. But, I had recalled from reading about imbuing that you won't be able to boost the durability. JUST that once it is at say 255 and wears down, you can repair it sure. But that you won't be able to use powder to boost the durability again.

Is that incorrect?

Sure you could have a good bow, a yumi and yeah it can be pretty awesome for lack of a better word at the moment, but eventually...255, 254, 253 max durability until....*poof.*

Any more, 255 durability does not last a real long time. But, for me I know I am probably greedy. If I have a good weapon, lol...I want to keep it. Not have the yumi in this case, disintegrate.

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My point was, and I could be wrong about this. But, I had recalled from reading about imbuing that you won't be able to boost the durability. JUST that once it is at say 255 and wears down, you can repair it sure. But that you won't be able to use powder to boost the durability again.

Is that incorrect?

Sure you could have a good bow, a yumi and yeah it can be pretty awesome for lack of a better word at the moment, but eventually...255, 254, 253 max durability until....*poof.*

Any more, 255 durability does not last a real long time. But, for me I know I am probably greedy. If I have a good weapon, lol...I want to keep it. Not have the yumi in this case, disintegrate.

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You are correct. That is why Imbuing won't be widespread for PvM weapons. I have to use POF on my sampires weapons regularly because I grind them down so quickly.

For PvP it will be extremely popular because they will last a whole heck of a lot longer.

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