Hi there, Just registered to this forum to ask the exacpt q.I can confirm it,UW's proc now gives AP bonus (the tooltip hasn't changed).

I wanted to ask for PvE, what should I look for now? I'm using atm Fluid Death and UW...What's the easiest trinket for me to get now? (Considiring my like with drops is meh ><)The FL revered rep trinket?

Good Question. Looks like it's time to change this 359 trinket - only have Fluid Death and heroic Essence of the Cyclone plus would be able to get the FL revered Trinket. What do you guys think to chance UW with - heroic Essence of the Cyclone, the FL revered Trinket or the daily MF one?

Evil wrote:Good Question. Looks like it's time to change this 359 trinket - only have Fluid Death and heroic Essence of the Cyclone plus would be able to get the FL revered Trinket. What do you guys think to chance UW with - heroic Essence of the Cyclone, the FL revered Trinket or the daily MF one?

Most of us already stopped using uhw except for specific scenarios. Namely, baleroc.

Evil wrote:I'm in europe and checked it right now - the procc still says 680 Weapon Damage - so I guess there are still the old UW stats? Any idea - eventually tested on few server only?Confusion right now ....

Or is the ingame Buff wrong ... and you don't get 680 Weapon damage?

The tooltip still reads 680 Weapon Damage, but the proc itself has been changed on EU servers. Tooltips require a client-side patch IIRC.

Evil wrote:I'm in europe and checked it right now - the procc still says 680 Weapon Damage - so I guess there are still the old UW stats? Any idea - eventually tested on few server only?Confusion right now ....

Or is the ingame Buff wrong ... and you don't get 680 Weapon damage?

The tooltip still reads 680 Weapon Damage, but the proc itself has been changed on EU servers. Tooltips require a client-side patch IIRC.

Horrible - I hate that kind of stuff - thanks for the info - so I'll have to go with the heroic Cyclone ...

These are the DPS results from my character using Mew for the combination of these 5 trinkets, I did not include Unheeded Warning, but its value is roughly the same as FD: Fluid Death, Matrix, Essence, Seed, Hungerer (All trinkets used are their Normal versions except for Essence, which is the 372 Heroic)

Disclaimer: These are not fact, these are just the results that I got from the various trinkets. It can be used as a guideline to see which trinkets pull ahead.

I would be interested to see how Seed does on non patchwork fights. I believe it will lose it's value quickly if you are not able to use it on cooldown. Fights like Rhoylith, Rag and Beth which require often time off boss, or quick target switches will hurt it, plus the mastery is wasted if we don't have bleeds going (IE aoe fights). How does it come out if the fight is 4:50 seconds long?

Ruan wrote:Yo dawg I heard you can't embed more than three quotes, so I can't quote in your quote while you quote what you quote.

Attack Power for Feral Druids is equivalent of a Secondary Stat, of which, the 359 trinkets proc 1926 secondary stats: Neffy Trinket.

Therefore, Unheeded Warning is perfectly on-budget.

Shouldn't matter how good attack power is for a certain class, Blizzard has set values for each stat and there should be twice as much attack power as anything else.

Please point out the trinket that gives 1.9k Agility on a 10/60 Uptime proc.

Attack Power is a Secondary Stat, which is why it has the same proc value, 1928, as other secondary stats on other trinkets: Nef Trinket. If they gave it double the value of all the other 359 trinkets then it wouldn't solve any problems because it would still be imbalanced.

Karona wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but the proc is 2649 AP, isn't it?Without UHWProc i got 15504 AP, while having the buff its 18153 AP.

No, it's 1.9k as everyone else has already tested. You were in cat form, which has percent modifiers that increase your total AP, thus the total AP gained from the UHW proc.

It's 1.9k, AP is only budgeted 2:1 against PRIMARY stats not secondary stats, and as Konungr pointed out, there's no proc that gives 1.9k of a primary stat on a 10/60 cooldown, it's perfectly inline with the other 359 trinkets available for ferals.

Ruan wrote:Yo dawg I heard you can't embed more than three quotes, so I can't quote in your quote while you quote what you quote.

Please point out the trinket that gives 1.9k Agility on a 10/60 Uptime proc.

Attack Power is a Secondary Stat, which is why it has the same proc value, 1928, as other secondary stats on other trinkets: Nef Trinket. If they gave it double the value of all the other 359 trinkets then it wouldn't solve any problems because it would still be imbalanced.

Attack Power is NOT budgeted as a secondary stat. Blizzard has been fairly zealous about eliminating most instances of passive attack power so I give you yon olde WoWWiki page for Crimson Spinel: