AvovA17 wrote:Do you use veto slots for your runs? Do you restart if you do not get a certain item? Info like that would be helpful

Also, is VGT beatable without Platemail?

I've set vetos for the VGT. Some changes, but my fix are at least Fire Heart, Hero's Helm, Venom Sword, Battlemage Ring, Whurrgabl. With a Quest Item prep, I always get good items from the shops. I picked these vetos based on the shop spawn algorithm: http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDu ... Shop_SpawnThough for the Vampy run the immunity items have no use. So I don't restart because of the shop spawn for a standard run. But for some harder runs (VT or purist) I sometimes scum for a specific item, diety or glyph.

Forget about the time, I played some boardgames with my friends during the run. This is probably the worst shop spawn considering what I've veto'd for a standard VGT run, a Stone Sigil and a Spoon were the best items I've got (and the Sigil is pretty useless compared to other items for the Paladin of GG), and I still managed to win. Though it was extremely close; the last hit was literally my last bit of hit with everything I can pull off. Granted I've got 2nd tower PM, but since I had quite some unfortunate levelup timings, so I think purist miser may be possible with considerable luck. I like purist over VT just because it costs nothing.

I once thought the warrior's pact (hp+1) was good to go with the Stone Sigil, because even with 0 piety when I kill one I get +3 piety which is immediately spent to fuel the pact. In contrary, body pact needs 4 piety per application and it means I need not to use HALPMEH during a fight. However it wasn't too good because the health approach consumed the bloodpools too fast. The answer was to consume bloodpools and piety sparkles to get enough piety to fuel the body pact.

For a side note: if you had not enough piety to activate the body pact (3 piety if you have lifesteal) at the first hit, then you can never pull off the resists from the enemy even if you have enough piety for your next hit.

Because my last (and first) goat win was very lucky (EM on curse) and had a serious mistake (punished by EM, I thought I was under TT), I'm uploading a new goat run. The run would be more reliable, and more educational.

Principle is still the same - MADLY convert your foods under JJ or GG. Just don't buy the lifesteal ability.

Haven't won anything... The most successful run was VT Gorgon with Binlor+PM start. I was able to get 65% resists quite early, but I think I really need HALPMEH to be successful. Purist Berserker and Orc Monk (to take a vid) was not bad, but far from win.

Gorgon is really strong with Binlor+PM approach, because she has initial ENDISWAL (-35 piety loss) and starting 25% pr, where mr can be compensated from Binlor. Also she only needs to recover attack bonus unlike Monk which is far easier than base attack. Knockback is a great addition in particular.

Purist with Gorgon would be really hard just because she cannot start with Binlor+PM.