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Seth saysHere might be an example of “experiencing for”. A tall hansom young man with long flowing hair and a coon skin cap just got a platter of tea service at the counter. He had blue hair, and was wearing a custom top made from what what appeared to be deer skin, and black and white striped tights. I funking wanted a picture of him to enhance my thought of Tuesday night at #RoyStreetCoffeAndTea. It was part of the local color for which people flock to #CapitolHill on a full moon.

Now i could have tried to capture his representation surpustitiously … but what if i got caught. Or i could have just asked for his picture … i frequently do ask a subject for that kind of picture. But i did not. Why? Well i might have been asking him to experience some kind of self consciousness which may well have made his skin crawl. So i didn’t do it.

tag #ExperiencingFor

Seth saysabove is an example of what asking a person to experience for you would be.

tag #ExperiencingFor.

Also please not that it was not something that i did … rather i refused to do it.

nathan, Please be careful when you accuse somebody of asking another to “experience for” them. Be clear on what you are saying … or at least careful about you words.

Doing something for another is quite a different thing than experiencing for them. The former is a gift freely given … the latter is asking (or forcing) a person into having an experience that is not their own volition for the sake of one’s own experience. That is the only thing that i can figure the words could mean mean. Note the difference between the operative words “doing” vs “experiencing”. Note the different places they are on the #CycleOfDoing … hopefully on both of our interpertations of that cycle.

Also … please be warned … this is a subject matter that is close to both of us … it will be hard to be objective … but me i think it lies at the heart of problems with how we interact. The more objective that we can be, the more perhaps we can get to the bottom of it.

Si saysI have no idea what you are talking about here. None of this has to do with “for me” verses “for you”.

Your story about your personal choices is just an internal story.

Seth sayswell i am distinguishing between “experiecing for another” vs “doing for another” ….
not between “for you” or “for me”.

maybe we should find another example that does not involve either me or you.

Si saysI don’t feel any need to keep banging on this. Chart away as you wish.

Seth saysokay, as you wish.

but note, once the bell of awareness has been rung, it is ducently difficult to make it un-rung.