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On Mac 7.10 RC 1 (and prior), if Verbum is closed while in maximized state, it should reopen in maximized state - it does not. The Windows version of Verbum maintains maximized state, the Mac version should do the same.

I have not found a user interface guidelines or human factors document on the internet that indicates this is proper behavior. Please fix this, it should be a small fix! Thanks.

Hi Philana, this happens to me every time - I use Verbum on the latest High Sierra OS on the Mac. I don't use a layout, it just opens to the Home Page (Settings/Startup set to Home). What I do to duplicate:

1. Open Verbum - it opens in a window.

2. Click on the green button in the top left corner of the window, to maximize Verbum to take up the entire screen.

3. Close Verbum.

4. Open Verbum - it now shows again in a window, I have to again click the green button to maximize into using the whole screen, it does not maintain the current window state when it was last closed.

If closed while maximized, it should open next time maximized. If closed in a window, it should open again in a window.

These things that are a constant in my life give it continuity and stability. It's just one of those things you know you have to endure - just like you know that having a reading plan for a (non-bible) book will leave you at a cliff hanger each day. Mostly mid-paragraph.

Hi Philana, this happens to me every time - I use Verbum on the latest High Sierra OS on the Mac. I don't use a layout, it just opens to the Home Page (Settings/Startup set to Home). What I do to duplicate:

1. Open Verbum - it opens in a window.

2. Click on the green button in the top left corner of the window, to maximize Verbum to take up the entire screen.

3. Close Verbum.

4. Open Verbum - it now shows again in a window, I have to again click the green button to maximize into using the whole screen, it does not maintain the current window state when it was last closed.

If closed while maximized, it should open next time maximized. If closed in a window, it should open again in a window.

Does that help, or do you need more from me to duplicate the issue?

Hi Don,

Thanks for the clarification, I thought you were describing a different issue we've had trouble reproducing. I'll get a case written up.

I get the same behavior (with Logos on Sierra), but I'm not convinced it's a "bug." I just did the same thing on several other apps (launch, green button to maximize to its own "Space," quit, re-open), and none of them re-open fullscreen in a dedicated Space. Re-opening in window state seems to be the established convention.

Are there other apps you are aware of that, when quit from a Space, reestablish that Space when re-opened?

Are there other apps you are aware of that, when quit from a Space, reestablish that Space when re-opened?

Hmm. I know that some apps used to do so. I know that Safari used to have a setting to do so. I know that Mail & iTunes still do. I know that I sent a support link to a FL dev which outlined it, but that was 3-5(?) years ago.

In my quick search, I found some users who said that it had been taken away... but I know that at one point there was a method for doing so.

Yes some do and some don't. But the guidelines are clear that software *should*, as this is part of the application 'state'; the developer guidelines discusses techniques on how to persist that state across restarts. Logos/Verbum does maintain size and position if I manually resize and reposition and then close/reopen, EXCEPT if my resizing is total screen size. Isn't that illogical?

"Large, high-resolution displays are typical for most Mac users, and people often extend their workspace by connecting additional displays. Apps can leverage this expansiveness and provide value by utilizing a wide range of interface components—like tabs, sidebars, sheets, and panels—and supporting immersive features like full-screen mode."

Hopefully FL will not merely offer full screen mode, but also support restoring to full screen state.

While this is such a trivial issue, getting it right somehow makes the user experience so much better. I suppose such attention to detail is one reason why companies win Apple design awards.

...but did you read anything about maintaining "full screen" after a restart? I haven't found anything yet. I don't want to let FL off the hook without them investigating it, but it might not be their fault.

Adam's question should have a follow up: Do we know of any non-Apple apps which reopen in full screen? I haven't found any yet.

...but did you read anything about maintaining "full screen" after a restart? I haven't found anything yet. I don't want to let FL off the hook without them investigating it, but it might not be their fault.

While I haven't found that detail spelled out, what would be the point of persisting the full screen state if that key was not meant to be used when the application was re-opened?

alabama24:

Adam's question should have a follow up: Do we know of any non-Apple apps which reopen in full screen? I haven't found any yet.