>>101950474
I was just pissed at her for suddenly deciding to be honest one of the few times when it would have been better for her to be manipulative. She has no idea how to have a proper fucked up codependent relationship.

I seriously doubt any of you is a hikki unless he's got his parents work for a company good enough that allowes you to sit and do shit while they make investments to save your lazy ass in the future. How can you not work or go outside? People are getting mind-fucked when they don't do shit for living as working and being rewarded for it is making one fullfilled, in any type of things. Unless you are working online from your house and gradually became to anti-social to start a conversation with strangers or people at work, you should probably eat some rat poison for a change of your diet, it would help everyone.

>>101950591
spoiler alert:your sponsors will eventually die and so will you right after them
Unless you live in the UK, or any other country on the globe that's retarded enough to support lazy, air-wasting fucks, from money that ordinary tax paying people with common sense earn by their hard work and motivation

>>101951105
it's like soldiers wanting to be home, but when you get home you wish you were back in the shit. i think a part time job is the best way to live, having no routine is pretty shit and having 5 days of work a week is worse

>>101951221
No, if you want to be a hardcore NEET, you need to get a parrot and train it to talk to you. That way, you can have conversations and still not technically talk to people. Parrots are hard to take care of and require a lot of work, but that's why you're a NEET. Dogs and cats are for normalfags who are busy and need a pet that they can ignore.

>>101951354
The reason smaller dogs are yappy is because their owners allow them to be, behavioral training when they're a pup pretty much gets rid of those traits, most people don't train their dogs, though.

The Maltese probably has the best temperament of all small dogs, if it ever got really yappy it'd be considered to have a serious personality defect. I know, I'm sure I'm bias.

It's great because I can do whatever I want on my night shifts with nobody bothering me and I get paid for it. That and I get a cool-looking uniform and a gun. This has got to be the best job I've ever had.

>>101951315
It's depressing in that it makes you think about your own real-life problems. People usually watch anime to forget about those things, not to have them brought front and center into their mind.

She liked having him as a hikki who was dependent on her. It boosted her self-esteem. She went crazy when he started to get better. She's one of those psycho borderline-personality type bitches that you stay the fuck away from.

>>101951451
It does get better in some way. Of course, in real life, a solid job is not bad. But it still feels so mediocre and like giving up. Accepting an average situation feels even more depressing in my eyes, being in pain at least reminds me, that there is the opposite of pain, while normality just makes me feel numb.

Even his suicide attempt wasn't as depressing, it was the attempt of a powerless man to be heroic and to shine, it was a abd idea, but in his way he treid.

>>101951586
You'd think given how gigantic and empty this country is there'd be more of that. But then again, what's the point of paying some guy to watch over a zillion miles of scrub no one pays attention to til it catches fire?

In the novel Satou pretty much ends up back in square one, even Misaki's life got better.

The ending in the anime isn't depressing, more like bittersweet. On one hand none of Misaki or Satou's problems got really solved, Misaki is still fucking depressed, you can see it in the title of the last notebook she is carrying and Satou still doesn't really talk to people.

The bright side is, at least they have one another. It's easy to assume they probably form a romantic relationship, but even without one you can tell that all they have is each other.

>>101951884
Autismbux is monthly money given by the Government for having autism. I get more money per month then I did working full time every single day. You get it by having autism and seeing a doctor to diagnose it.

>>101952344
Find a really easy part time job. Don't look for anything with more than 25 hours, you'll want to work even less if possible. The trick is to work as little as possible while appearing to try your best. It makes parents less ashamed of you and more confident that you can handle yourself when they're gone. See parents usually want their kids to be happy, but they mistakenly believe this means working a job and getting married, etc etc. You have to dance to their tune a little bit or else they lose confidence and then you're inheritance is fucked.

>>101952626
Jobs are horrible, they ruin your life completely. It's not just that they take up so much of your time, but even the time not spent working is ruined because working will exhaust you so much that you can't even enjoy your time off. To make enough money to live in luxury you have to put in so many hours that you have no time to enjoy luxury. The less you work the less comfort you have in your life.

Better to find a way to live without working. Women have it fucking easy, just focus on your appearance and find some rich man to marry.

>>101952687>potential
What a worthless word. Potential for what? Plugging away at some meaningless corporate job to earn barely enough money for a middle class life style? Such potential. The only thing I'm any good at is writing pornography, and I'm living in an age where the only people dumb enough to buy pornography aren't smart enough to read short fiction. I have no marketable skills and no interest in becoming a wage slave.

>>101952626
You say that like it is easy, friend. Not only is it extremely difficult to find worthwhile work, it is also nearly impossible for someone like me to actually work. I managed to hold a part time job for almost a year until the panic attacks flared back up. Ever feel like everyone around you is going to try to kill you? A customer yelled at me for no reason and I lost it, I thought he was going to try to murder me so I ran out of the store and never went back. You have no idea what that is this is like, I know you don't from the fact that you called it pathetic. If you even experienced a tenth of the fear that I do from these situations you would understand. I cannot even drive anymore because I panic about what would happen if I had a panic attack while driving, see the ridiculousness in this? Do you think I like being a leech? You think it feels good to be dependent on a person that hates you and doesn't understand what you experience? Take a simple emotion, sadness for example, now image that no one else around you experienced sadness and they thought you were just "making it up". Fuck you and your unfounded ignorant viewpoint.

Why the hell would I want to change my hikikomori ways? It's not like I could ever get a job in for example eroge or anime industry anyway, and I don't really like anything else that much that I'd want to waste over third of my time on. Neither do I want any more real life social contacts or responsibilities, so give me one reason why should I not be a hikikomori?

Yeah, some extra money would be nice sometimes, but it's not worth the trouble of becoming a normie and abandon everything you like.

>>101953043>professionals
You mean the drug pushers? Yeah I'll pass at being a human test subject for the pharmaceutical industry. Ever read the list of psychical and physiological side effects from any anti-psychotic? In fact I am fairly certain that it was because of the "professionals" that I am this way. If you ever have kids keep them away from these so called pros, do not let them dump whatever hot med of the market into your kids brain.

>>101953043>there are people who think they're professionals because of a piece of paper>there are people who just do their fucking job and don't even care about your problem, just giving some common tips>those people are actually any Psychologist ever

>>101953228
Did different meds for over 1year, over 12 meds>gained 20kg>metabolism syndrom
and they didn't help at all. Now I'm not taking any meds anymore and doctors are like "WELL IF YOU DON'T COOPERATE WE CAN'T HELP YOU" even though I feel better.

>>101953344
My therapist threatened to have me institutionalized if I stopped taking my meds, needless to say I never showed up there again.

For anyone expressing doubts that these people aren't the pawns of the pharmaceutical industry; take one step into any therapists office and look at their pens, tablets, mousepads, ect...they all have brandnames from the drug companies. These people are bought, they are salesmen, and they don't care about you.

>>101953407
Your post is stupid. >it is just a brain
A brain in which I need to fucking live>so what if it kills you
I would rather not die, thank you

>>101953546
Just what do you think is the point of medicine? It's to make you able to work, not slack off. You could work if you took the drugs but you don't and think using panic attacks is a great excuse to slack off?

>>101953712
Look bro, we aren't talking about penicillin or salbutamol here. We are talking about shit that is pushed through trails, shit that is unproven. Go ahead and check the trails the FDA runs on a majority of psychological medications, see how lenient they are when it comes to dealing with companies like Liily and PA. They don't care if their meds kill you, they only care about profit. Why do you think that you must sign a waiver before getting these meds?

>>101954012
Yeah I thought it's common knowledge that drug companies are dictators. At least in the US. What'cha gonna do? You are the test subject. Maybe someone else 50 years from now doesn't have to be. Or you can just keep feeling murdered

>>101954219
See you have the wrong idea, I only feel that way when I am around people because people are inherently dangerous. There is no logical reason to physically interact with other people on a daily basis, barring extreme outliers of course.

>>101951221
Rabbits are pretty generous in the companionship:responsibility ratio. They're easy as hell to take care of, and most of them don't care if you hold them for hours at a time. Just don't expect them to do anything other than stare at you.

I'm sure there are some incredibly incompetent assholes out there, but they certainly aren't all awful. When I was younger, my parents took me to one for depression. She never prescribed me a single pill, just talked me through some issues I was having.

>>101950410
Given that attractive women are the most entitled beings on the planet they should have their attractiveness taxed. They should be forced to go around having sexual relations with us hikki types to better morale and mass mental states and thus increase theoretical productivity.

>>101949696
Watching anime and smoking weed destroyed my life. I cut myself on a Rei figure that's been places and contracted an STD. Also, they had to amputate my left foot because it developed a weed toe after I injected weed with a dirty needle.

>>101951990
If you went to the shrink i visited once 2 years ago her advice would be along the lines of "Just get a job where you can work from home, whats the problem? As long as you're happy not having to interact with people you shouldnt force yourself"

>>101958566
I once went to cry about my studies going to shit and told the doc I was depressed. He told me: "well, you need to study to get a good job." I was hella mad for a long time but I guess I had seen too many TV shrinks n shit so my hopes were far too great.

>>101949696
Why does japan always have such a narrow view of the various ways a person can make money.
I'm not criticizing the show really, but it's strange how it implies that getting a job is like, the door out of being a shut-in.
Jobs fucking suck unless you make six figures, and that won't be for another 20-30 years if you don't have degrees/certs to wave around.

Also, extrapolating on my first point, I think people that call themselves "shut-ins" or "outcasts" are terrible, and that the reason jobs are looked at as being "the path" out of hikikomori is only because a job is the one thing that will force them to get off their asses.
I mean, I'm a NEET, I don't have any friends, and I almost never leave my property, but I still exercise, eat right, and I study really hard, and I play music for at least 4 hours a day.
People that have no concept of self discipline just don't know how to live without having some need to pay off a debt, be it a financial debt or a debt to society.

Fuck that noise, start your own business, I believe you can do much more than just "landing a job" and you should too!

>>101962838That's the hikki I was before I started watching animu/reading manga. All those drugs are scheduled now in my country. Though now I'm a sober former heroin addict with a part time job teaching kids chess.

>>101962976
I think the manga touches on drugs more than the anime, but I haven't read it. The novel does mention drugs throughout it though.

>>101953746
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Hikki, is in fact, NEET/Hikki, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, NEET plus Hikki. Hikki is not a demographic unto itself, but rather another useless component of a fully non-functioning NEET system made useless by the NEET leeching, use of utilities and shit taste components comprising a full subhuman as defined by NHK.
Many normal people meet a modified version of the NEET every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NEET which is widely used today is often called “Hikki”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NEET system, developed by the Herbivore Males. There really is a Hikki, and these people are it, but it is just a part of the system they are.
Hikki is the kernel: the brain in the system that allocates the NEET's resources to the other BDs that you buy. The kernel is an essential part of a system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Hikki is normally used in combination with the NEET system: the whole system is basically NEET with Hikki added, or NEET/Hikki. All the so-called “Hikki” people are really combinations of NEET/Hikki.

>>101952917
Someone once said to me, "do not take council of your fears."

I remember one day when I had a fever of 105, and I wasn't laying down like I should have, and I woke up at 5AM to piss.
While I was pissing, everything started to go black, I thought, "ah fuck me," then I zipped up my pants, and passed out.
For some reason I actually thought I might die.
My brother called 911 and woke me up, he said he "felt my presence leave" and came down stairs to that whim.
Turns out that's normal when you have a fever of 105 due to dilated blood vessels.

The moral of the story is that, I was terribly afraid, but I remembered "do not take council of your fears" and then I had no fear to contend with, it was all a terrible experience by anyone's standards, but I've never felt more alive in my life.
Seriously I love when shit like that happens, I even remember thinking to myself "fuck yes this is exciting."

>all these posts about finding a job
Easier said then done. Tens of applications sent per month and no one ever calls back. Now I'm being told to find a trade school and put myself in debt while I'm at it.

I don't know if it's too late. I started getting mild acne by around the age of 12 and it has never stopped to this day, and I'm now 19. It wasn't terribad, but it was noticeable. Anyway, because of that I became a quiet person, so that I attract less attention from others, so they wouldn't look at me. It fucked my confidence and while everyone went outside to play with their friends, I stayed home all day and played video games, and down the years found 4chan, and got into anime. I'm now in university and I'm supposed to be looking for a part time job for experience, but I'm a social retard who can't build up a decent conversation with anyone because no one shares the interests I hold. I feel loneliness sometimes since 4chan acts as a substitute for having friends, and when I distance myself from 4chan, I feel empty.

In any case, I'm working on a regimen and my acne is fading away slowly. But I have no clue on how to make friends. I fight against depression almost everyday, but I'm hoping I don't break down too soon, and I'll keep struggling till I find a way. Sorry for blogging.

>>101966385
Oh finally, somebody who has at least a shred of dignity left.
Anyway, if you eat unhealthy you should stop, and eat a banana every day since the vitamin B6 helps to reduce anxiety and depression, and also get some sleep, and if you find it hard to sleep, it's because computer monitors make your brain think it's daytime out so it stops melatonin production which also increases your aptitude for developing just about any disorder in existence, and also things like cancer and heart attacks.
Additionally, I don't trust microwaves.

What I do is turn off the lights, TV, computers what have you, and I listen to music, which, lately has been samuel barber and ted greene.
Look up that story about the effects of classical music vs heavy metal music on plants, 2spooky.

>>101967275
Well what would you know. I started eating a banana every day for the past week anyway. I stopped eating sugary food too, and replaced them with nuts. Also, I believe I have insomnia, since I've always found it hard to sleep. If I can hear the ticking from my analogue clock in my room, I have to pull the batteries or else I won't sleep. I should probably trash that garbage.

What you say about melatonin is interesting though. Does this apply any sort of artificial light? I'll be sure to keep this in mind from now on.

Here is some advice for someone that made it out of neet life and more or less considered a "professional": Still can only keep up only short normalfag smalltalk, but that us all you need.

Skip college/ uni, the 4 years will most likely do nothing for you unless it is a technical skill (engineering etc)
Spend that time and money to instead apply for unpaid internship / job and get real experience plus will help your confidence. and have something to actually talk about for an interview.
After a few months ask to get turned to paid worker and / or start looking for a paid position. Tell them you are looking so you can get a reference.
For low level entry level jobs they expect inexperience and training time, just go into interview showing that your are willing to do anything and willing to learn.
Find a cheap professional resume writer, it makes a huge difference.

Unless of course you are really worthless and can't do shit, no one can help you with that.

>>101967832>Does this apply any sort of artificial light?
I believe so, though low frequency lighting is less noticeable due to the fact that it is created by a burning filament, whereas monitors have refresh rates, so you basically stare at a big canvas of pixels flashing in your face, which I believe is also true for fluorescent lighting.
Organisms don't react well to square waves, and that's a rather idiotic way to put it, but let me explain.
Heavy metal music is often jarring because of the fact that the distortion effects they use work by simply converting the waveform to a square wave, which then is often overdriven for extra rawk n rool, but for some reason or another this type of sound has a slightly negative effect on all biological life.
It's the same concept with light, the flickering of an LCD is not good for you.
Even electronics get destroyed by square waves coming in from the wall socket, so they are converted using things like digital to analog converters.
Sounds really stupid I know, and I don't have much evidence to back it up.

>>101970068
Alcohol exists for a reason friend. Consider this, you're depressed because your body is telling you there's something wrong going on, something you aren't content with. Therefore, the only people who can't get depressed, are idiots. Ofcourse, it should be taken in moderation, and I'm not just talking about the alcohol here.

>>101970258
I have a liver condition, never had a drop of alcohol in my life and likely never will because of it.
But, there are some drugs that don't hit too hard on the liver, or some that don't exactly cause it much trouble at all! It's when I run out that things are bleak, because then there is no safety net.

>>101970550
Not after a decade, when it finally burrows deep into your chest and you know no one wants to hear about a single problem you have. You pass that point where feeling bad makes you special and you reach one where you don't want to be conscious anymore, it's just too difficult. Sounds pretty edgy, huh..

>>101970608
It depends on what kind of depression you have and how you deal with it. For example if you dont care about anything in your life then embrace it, life your life without caring about anything living of social welfare. Dont worry about fixing it just so you can be a normal member of society worrying about bills that have to be paid etc.

it's a terrible limbo when you don't like your situation but at the same time it's comfortable and stable for the moment. occasionally something will go wrong, everything will crash down around you, and you'll end up even lower. but you get used to this too, get comfortable, until it crashes again. this will happen until you're living on the street

>>101971213
it's terrible because constantly on the back of your mind you know that this path will lead to ruin, but you just hope for some unrealistic event to save you like a real life misaki or lottery prize or whatever
you know it's not realistic, you know it's not going to happen, but you can't help but to put all your hopes on that impossible event

>>101952873
And what is meaningness? To work for some faggot who sees you as a slave? To buy new iShit to support the economy?
To make children and shit so you won't be forgotten? Well, how often do you think about your grandgrandfather? Do you think like "oh, he was a great guy and had a meaningfull life"? No, you don't. Maybe only once in school when you were researching your genealogical tree.
In 2~ generations won't be any differences between NEETs and "alpha" guys. They all will be forgotten.

>>101971113
Finding the will to change in my case, required me to think of others if I fail and fall into the streets.

The only reason for me to keep trying to change myself is because I don't want to bring shame to my father, who has worked so hard all his life, only to be rewarded with a shitty son like myself as his heir.

I don't want my father to go to hangout with his friends, have them talk about their kids and their achievements, only for my father to feel left out because he has no offspring to be proud of. Typing this shit just makes my eyes watery.

>>101970902
I imagine he's talking about that screen cap which goes something like "if you're depressed, just go out and do whatever the fuck you want. You were probably going to kill yourself, so you might as well do the crazy stuff you were always too afraid to do. After all, the consequences can't be any worse than those of killing yourself."

It's an interesting line of thought, but is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of depression and how it affects you. That is, assuming the person in question is actually clinically depressed and not just a sadsack.

>>101971346
Just live for yourself. For many people that means self satisfaction through actually working and feeling like they contribute something useful to society or some other bullshit to affirm their life choices. The definition of living a meaningful life is subjective.

>>101971529
I've lived quite the introverted life. Recently I've begun to talk to people I need to for getting things done, and I'm being a lot more persistent if I don't get want I want. I don't know if that is the equivalent of stomping on ants, but I can always live for myself later on in the road. Besides, if I get a good job, I can continue doing the things I like, I'm sure my father wants that. Although, if he knew I watch chinese cartoons with little girls flashing their pantsus he'd probably kick me out in the street.

Sometimes I have a bad day and at the end of it, just before I go to sleep I take a look at my face in the mirror for a few moments and I can't help but smile and I end up genuinely laughing and I just tell myself to take it easy. I smile because I understand the me I see in the mirror, no one else in the world understands my him except myself, and that I'm the one who can only see the real me. It's not like I have a pretty face or anything, I'm below average looking.

I know it sounds pretentious and all, but that's the best way I can word it.

>>101950463
Same reason as to why you don't go out and try to help a homeless person change their ways, there's no reason for someone else to dedicate their life to you just because you're an unmotivated piece of shit.