Neither should they be adding Machida, who the f--- has he beaten since getting STFO and landing face first on the canvas??? 2-3 in his last 5 with 3 unimpressive performances beating a 48 year old man and a one-dimensional wrestler. Cmon guys lets not get crazy here.

Those rankings suck. Frankie is no longer at lw so he shouldn't be number 2 at lw, he hasn't won a fight at fw so he shouldn't be at 2. Thats like making Sonnen the Number 2 lhw just because he's fighting for the title. Plus Shougn at 5 and Rashad at 9 behind even Thiago Silva????
Nick Diaz is ahead of Condit? Huh? Plenty more wrong with those rankings.

I actually think the UFC rankings are pretty solid. Not a whole lot to argue there. And there's nothing wrong with having Edgar on the p4p list. He was the Champion at a division above his natural weight class. And like already mentioned, p4p rankings aren't formal rankings. They're purely based on who you think is best if everyone was the same size. The fact that Edgar was beating on people bigger than him is reason enough to put him up there. Dan Henderson too, he's a smaller lhw and not too long ago knocked out a ranked hw (fedor).

To be honest if your rankings have some agreements and some disagreements then it pretty good if you ask me. Universally negative reactions means it is pointless but you are never gonna have a universal acclaim cause at the end of the day it's so many different people with different opinions.

Rich was still a Top Ten MW when Cung Le KO'd him though, shouldn't that get Le in the Top Ten?

I think that Cung Le should replace Belcher on the list for sure. But Rich was not ranked a top 10 mw going into the fight with Cung. Going into the fight he had one win at mw (technically not mw since its 190, but I think it should count) against Wandy. Before that he was losing at lhw.

Where do you feel Frankie should be ranked? I don't really agree with everyone freaking out about Frankie not being ranked at FW. He went the distance in a pretty close fight with the champ of the division and one of the P4P best fighters in the world. That's worth a top five ranking, imo. Now I agree that he shouldn't be ranked number 2, only because he has no wins, but giving him a top 10 ranking isn't a problem, at least in my opinion.

And there's nothing wrong with having Edgar on the p4p list. He was the Champion at a division above his natural weight class. And like already mentioned, p4p rankings aren't formal rankings. They're purely based on who you think is best if everyone was the same size. The fact that Edgar was beating on people bigger than him is reason enough to put him up there. Dan Henderson too, he's a smaller lhw and not too long ago knocked out a ranked hw (fedor).

I don't at all agree with the Henderson one, but it's going to be impossible to please everyone on a P4P list, plain and simple.

As far as with Edgar, not really disagreeing again, I'm just asking, don't you think that him being smaller and quicker has actually helped him, due to his style? Now obviously we've yet to see him fight anyone his size, besides Aldo, who was bigger than him anyway, but my point is, would/will Frankie be more successful at FW than he was at LW? I have a hard time believing that, because I think being smaller and quicker suits his style.

With all that said, I still have no problem with him being up there, I love the guy and he's a tough out for anyone.

I don't really have a problem with Edgar being top 5 in fw but I was quoting somebody who had posted Kenny Florians ranking where he had Edgar at number 2 in both lw and fw.

It's hard to say if it helped him, all he fought was Jose Aldo. Time will tell as he fights more people as opposed to Aldo. I believe it will though. He was wrestling with huge lw's in Maynard and Benson. He won't be fighting guys as strong as them at fw. Not only that but the lw guys have so much more power in their striking than the fw guys. There are a select few fw's that do have knockout power but it doesn't compare to all the lw's with power in their hands and feet.

I don't really have a problem with Edgar being top 5 in fw but I was quoting somebody who had posted Kenny Florians ranking where he had Edgar at number 2 in both lw and fw.

It's hard to say if it helped him, all he fought was Jose Aldo. Time will tell as he fights more people as opposed to Aldo. I believe it will though. He was wrestling with huge lw's in Maynard and Benson. He won't be fighting guys as strong as them at fw. Not only that but the lw guys have so much more power in their striking than the fw guys. There are a select few fw's that do have knockout power but it doesn't compare to all the lw's with power in their hands and feet.

That's true. And yeah I agree that he shouldn't be #2. I just don't see what the uproar of having him in the top 10 or top 5 even is.

I'm very curious to see the next Frankie fight and what he does. I think he'll definitely have success at FW too, if that's what he decides to do. I think Frankie is one of the more exciting guys in MMA.

Published on Feb 5, 2013
UFC Tonight analysts Ariel Helwani, Chael Sonnen and Kenny Florian gave their take on the newly official UFC Fighter Rankings. The analysts had some serious issues with the first set of rankings, what do you think?

I might be alone here, but I still think both GSP & Jones should be ranked ahead of Silva. They've both been more dominant in their respective divisions. Neither of these 2 have really been threatened over the past 5 years, while Silva has lost multiple rounds to Sonnen. That should factor in.

I might be alone here, but I still think both GSP & Jones should be ranked ahead of Silva. They've both been more dominant in their respective divisions. Neither of these 2 have really been threatened over the past 5 years, while Silva has lost multiple rounds to Sonnen. That should factor in.

dude get ready for the backlash of that comment,
he has the most title defenses in UFC history and the longest win streak also
he made LHW's look like children against him seriously is that sarcasm ?

dude get ready for the backlash of that comment,
he has the most title defenses in UFC history and the longest win streak also
he made LHW's look like children against him seriously is that sarcasm ?

My argument is that both GSP & Jones have similar attributes to Sonnen, in how they use their wrestling, but unlike Chael, they're less vulnerable to submissions.
Silva's take down defense is nothing close to fellow Brazilian Jose Aldo (or Machida for that matter). So there is a perceived weakness that has already been exploited by Sonnen. And this is what guys like GSP and Jones are so good at (take you down and beat you up without getting caught).

My argument is that both GSP & Jones have similar attributes to Sonnen, in how they use their wrestling, but unlike Chael, they're less vulnerable to submissions.
Silva's take down defense is nothing close to fellow Brazilian Jose Aldo (or Machida for that matter). So there is a perceived weakness that has already been exploited by Sonnen. And this is what guys like GSP and Jones are so good at (take you down and beat you up without getting caught).

I see your point but Sonnen's wrestling is up there with the best in all of MMA, we all know that's Silva weakness but its easier said than done look who he fought against Okami, Hendo, Maia, all off the top of my head and look what he did to them, its all well and good saying take him down and hold him there or tie him up against the fence ( that was Bonner's game plan even on roids look where that got him.. he toyed with him) Every fight starts standing and that's where Silva will always have the advantage. As for the 117 fight with Sonnen he won a is a win no matter how you win its still a W on your record.
and i'm a Sonnen fan my friend

The New UFC P4P rankings are a joke, Silva at #3, Weidman at #10? One big win in your early career shouldn't make you #10. I dont know why these rankings bother me so much? I'm probaly just mad at the "voting media", Hardcore Fans have more knowledge!