Update! The Latest On The Atacama Humanoid (Alien?)

Guys, since I'm a skeptic by birth, I'm posting this in the conspiracy forum until there's incontrovertible proof that this little humanoid found
in the Atacama desert is indeed an alien. Here's an update - the latest - posted on 31 May.

Check out this latest video from Project Sirius. The main issues are:

> According to detailed study and analysis by experts, it was found that it is NOT a fetus.
> This 'creature' was 6 years old when it died presumably by an injury on its head.
> Atacama is a desert. How did it survive for 6 long years?
> It is impossible for anyone to have made this 'creature'. In other words, it isn't artificial. The reasons are given in the video.

Reconstruction of the mitochondrial DNA sequence and analysis shows an allele frequency consistent with a B2 haplotype group found on the west
coast of South America, supporting the claimed origination of the specimen from the Atacama Desert region of Chile.

So what we have so far is the bits of DNA they have not examined = no conclusion.
But the bits of DNA they have examined = ordinary human.

In my opinion, this is as real of a life form as you and I. The mystery for me is, what exactly is it? Where did it come from? The being was six
years old at the time of it's death. Six years old! Not a couple of hours old. Not a week old. Not a month old, but SIX YEARS old! Now that part
astonishes me.

If it was a human child, how could it survive for six years the way it is? It's interesting but I'm not ruling anything out. We know so little
about what *could* happen to a human body that it's possible it suffered from a rare disease / birth deformity or something similar.

To the chagrin of UFO hunters, Ata is decidedly of this world. After mapping more than 500 million reads to a reference human genome, equating
to 17.7-fold coverage of the genome, Nolan concluded that Ata "is human, there's no doubt about it." Moreover, the specimen's B2 haplotype—a
category of mitochondrial DNA—reveals that its mother was from the west coast of South America: Chile, that is.

Meanwhile, after examining x-rays, Lachman concluded that Aka's skeletal development, based on the density of the epiphyseal plates of the knees
(growth plates at the end of long bones found only in children), surprisingly appears to be equivalent to that of a 6- to 8-year-old child. If that
holds up, there are two possibilities, Nolan says. One, a long shot, is that Ata had a severe form of dwarfism, was actually born as a tiny human, and
lived until that calendar age. To test that hypothesis, he will try to extract hemoglobin from the specimen's bone marrow and compare the relative
amounts of fetal versus adult hemoglobin proteins. The second possibility is that Ata, the size of a 22-week-old fetus, suffered from a severe form of
a rare rapid aging disease, progeria, and died in the womb or after premature birth.

Nolan hasn't yet turned up hits for genes known to be associated with progeria or dwarfism. He's stepping up the search for mutations through
additional sequencing and casting a wider net. Another possibility is a teratogen: a birth defect-inducing toxicant along the lines of thalidomide.
Nolan plans to analyze tissue using mass spectrometry to look for toxicants or metabolites. But reports of a handful of other Tom Thumb-sized
skeletons from Russia and elsewhere have Nolan leaning toward a genetic explanation.

At least one expert has a more prosaic take—but agrees that the specimen is human. "This looks to me like a badly desiccated and mummified human
fetus or premature stillbirth," says William Jungers, a paleoanthropologist and anatomist at Stony Brook University Medical Center in New York. He
notes that "barely ossified and immature elements" of the hands and feet, and the wide open metopic suture, where the two frontal bones of the skull
come together down the middle of the forehead. "Genetic anomalies are not evident, probably because there aren't any," he says. Nolan responds that
the rib number and epiphyseal plate densities remain a riddle; while he is open to the fetus hypothesis, he thinks that the jury is still out.

Garry Nolan, professor of microbiology and immunology at the Stanford School of Medicine, along with others, studied the skeleton extensively
in 2012.

According to Nolan, the humanoid is male and shows indications of being about six to eight years old at death, despite its tiny size, and this is
probably due to one of two causes: the Atacama humanoid may have suffered from a severe form of the rapid aging disease progeria, and died in the womb
or after premature birth, or, less likely, it had a severe form of dwarfism, was actually born as a tiny human, and lived until age six to eight.

"It's an interesting medical mystery of an unfortunate human with a series of birth defects that currently the genetics of which are not obvious,"
wrote Nolan.

The researchers have not yet found any of the genetic mutations commonly associated with any form of dwarfism.

Even if such mutations are found, other aspects of the skeleton might not be explained by them; there is no known form of dwarfism that accounts for
all of the anomalies seen in the specimen, according to pediatric radiologist Ralph Lachman, a clinical professor at Stanford University and professor
emeritus at the UCLA School of Medicine and co-director of the International Skeletal Dysplasia Registry at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.

William Jungers, a paleoanthropologist and anatomist at Stony Brook University Medical Center, notes that the specimen looks to him like a desiccated
and mummified human fetus or premature stillbirth.

This thing does not look human. Nor does it look like a fetus, nor a dwarf. The skeleton does not look anomalous. It doesn't appear deformed. All you
clinging to such explanations are just desperate to explain it away. Experts included.

too bad this is Greer's "baby" (pun intended).

As for DNA allegedly being humanoid...there's more than one way of looking at that...perhaps our DNA is alien in origin?...which would than tell
us...that perhaps we have this creature's DNA not the other way around.

the thing about this that makes me believe it's not human...is the length of it's arms...if spread out fully, they would reach it's knees. That's
not the usual ratio for humans nor is it for fetuses, except perhaps in primates.

So,if I understand the vid correctly, so far the creature is a 91% human match in DNA. The 9% non match is either junk DNA as they call it, or it
makes this little blighter less related to us than monkeys.

Looks legit to me - I know how Greer is discredited, but I'm not convinced he's a fraud at all.
When I first joined I made a thread about the cell-structure of crop circle grass that had "non-earth" DNA too, also presented by Greer - and was
summarily laughed into silence.

This little guy, maybe, could be the offspring of an unknown being AND a human, perhaps?

If there are other ones to study, that would be great. I also wanted to point out that Greer claims "the Huff Post" and some other "minor outlets"
mis-stated Dr Nolan's findings.

I understand how it could be seen as Greer just asking for more money to accomplish nothing - but, I think this looks like something of an "anomaly"
that modern medicine and genetics hadn't predicted or ever come across. If nothing else, at least it opens up more evidence for exploration into DNA
sequencing.

After all, Greer DID SAY he's not claiming it's ET. He's saying they don't know what it is, how it survived, or if it's a previously unknown genetic
"mutation" - but it sure does resemble "aliens" as described and depicted by the ET/UFO community.

I think it would scare the guts and their contents out of me if a little guy like that came walking across my desk and popped up from behind
the pen-jar!! I don't know if I'd try to catch it or simply shriek and run away from it. Hopefully one day another specimen or two will be presented
for study as well. I certainly would want it stand still while I checked it out...scary, but fascinating!

Some ingredients to fuel the imagination and also, some desert climates are good for preserving corpses

As it stands, we allegedly came from the apes, yet apes still exist, was there more kinds of races here before us? It's possible. I'm very skeptical
that this is an alien body (with or without Greer being involved).

i am a skulls and bones collector, sculptor, and a model designer...
i could pull that of quite easily,---but those ex-rays confuse me,,, there are some unexplained questions..

the give away are the finger bones, those are hard to do,,, and as in this case, those are not done as nicely, as the rest of the mummy.... also the
missing knee joints and etc...

i still hope its an actual alien mummy,,,

edit on 3-6-2013 by solve because: joints missing?

So you're claiming the top guy in the field was fooled? If you could do it, take the challenge the guy from Stanford offered up. Don't make a
statement like that and then slip off into the dark spaces of the internet. Do it and prove it!

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