Season Preview: Waiting on the Shooting

Hostels across the globe are filled with young men and women traveling to find themselves. While the Warriors won’t exactly be roughing it backpacker-style during their trip to China, hopefully the change of scenery will help them get back in touch with their identity. Because right now, the Warriors are a jump-shooting team that can’t shoot.

We’re still very early in the preseason and jump-shooting is a famously fickle skill — ice cold one moment, blistering hot the next — but when you look down the Warriors’ box scores for the first three games, one stat stands out. After shooting 45.8% from the field and 40.3% from behind the arc last season, the Warriors have seen their preseason accuracy drop by about 7 percentage points on both fronts. They’re shooting 38.5% from the field and 33.0% from behind the arc over their first three games. (All the usual disclaimers about small sample size. Take these numbers for what they are — a very small slice, but all we have to go off of so far for the preseason.)

My initial instinct it to attribute the Warriors’ poor shooting to all the garbage time being played, but there are at least two reasons why that logical excuse may not explain away all the team’s problems.

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First, a lot of the poor shooting is the Warriors starters playing against opponent’s starters. Curry is 11-32 (34.4%) for the preseason. David Lee isn’t much better at 11-28 (39.3%). The two most reliable engines of the Warriors’ offense last year have been sputtering. I completely expect them to come around, but until they do, the team will struggle to put up the type of explosive offensive performances that defined their identity last year.

Second, the Warriors’ preseason opponents are presumably playing a lot of garbage minutes as well, but their shooting percentage has barely dropped. Warriors’ opponents are shooting 43.0% for the preseason, compared to 43.9% over last year. A scrub offense against a scrub defense may end up being a wash when it comes to scoring and shooting percentages. (Of course, the other explanation for the relatively even preseason and regular season opponent shooting percentage could be a drop in the Warriors’ defensive effectiveness to off-set whatever dip in offensive effectiveness their opponents may be experiencing. That’s an ominous possibility — but I’m waiting a few more games to weigh in on how the post-Malone defense looks.)

If history is any guide, the Warriors’ shooting will come around. We’ve seen rough patches offensively from Curry, Lee and others before. They were almost always short lived. As the Warriors’ offensive core starts taking more shots, I expect the team shooting numbers to improve. Last season, the offensive core of Curry, Lee and Thompson averaged 47.2 shots per night. In the preseason so far, the trio is averaging 34 — and most of those are Thompson’s shots. When the Warriors’ better offensive players start asserting themselves, my guess is we’ll see a team that lives up to its identity.

The one subtle, structural change in the offense that still worries me is the departure of Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry, along with the high-percentage half-court offense they provided with penetration and post-play, respectively. Jack was an average shooter for the Warriors last season (45.2%) but could create his own shot, while Landry was one of their best (54.0%) shooters, often bailing them out down low when plays would break down. The duo combined to take 18.2 shots per game. The Warriors will need to figure out how to redistribute those shots in a way that doesn’t drag down their offensive efficiency. Iguodala and Speights will get some of them (in preseason, they’ve been averaging just over 13 shots combined at a 55% clip). The remaining shots have fallen to poor shooters — Draymond Green, Kent Bazemore and Toney Douglas — who have combined to go 11 for 44 (25%) in the preseason games. As Mark Jackson tightens up his rotations and starts moving closer to regular season line-ups, it’ll be crucial for the Warriors’ role players to know their roles. Green, Bazemore and Douglas bring some crucial traits to team, but every shot they take outside of a fast break or a put-back is likely a wasted opportunity for a better shooter on the court (and for Douglas, even the lay-ups fall into that category).

The Warriors’ 1-2 start deflated the hype a bit, and it’s not enough to merely rebut the lackluster play with the assertion that “it’s preseason.” But when you pick apart the team’s offensive struggles, the problems don’t look like the type that will bleed over into the games that count. The high-efficiency shooters will get more shots. The offensively-challenged role players will get fewer touches. And Mark Jackson will once again boast about having the best shooting backcourt in the NBA.

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And why need more defensive rebounds from Lee? What’s he supposed to do—wrestle them away from Bogut?

Lee’s a committed rebounder. He rebounds out of his immediate range. Defensive rebounding isn’t a weakness with this roster.

What we’re seeing in the “decline” in Lee’s rebounding #’s is the happy antithesis of the padded rebounding #’s that guys like Murphy, Jamison, and Lee himself had when playing on truly shockingly bad rebounding teams.

jsl165

Well, with this and Son’s earlier breakdown, I’ll know what to look for when I watch tonight.

What I’m really interested in seeing, is if AI is starting to mesh on O as well as it seemed (and looked in the box). This is precisely what I’ve been waiting to see develop from him.

The concept of giving him some playmaking duties while keeping a true one on the floor (if we need O, it’s NN; if we need D, it’s TD; if the game’s on the line, it’s Steph) makes a great deal of sense. I would think he should also excel at the drive and kick.

Finally, tho I continue to share a distaste for Speights’ game — and have from the get-go — I still plan to cut him (and Myers) some slack, until mid-season at least, when I hope he’ll get it. And I think it might be time to give up on Baze at the one now — I, too, like him best without the ball.

Peter Moto

thank you Chris L. your observation re. Speights confirms my impression of him on two of his previous teams — he’s selfish on offense, just wants the ball to go for his own shot, and shows little court awareness. apparently the brain trust wanted to check off ‘size, some boards and scoring’ from their shopping list, and they conceded a two year contract to do so.

if Bazemore doesn’t demonstrate he can be an impact player on defense and a non-liability on the other end, he could easily end up another case of opportunity cost in terms of roster development like jenkins and tyler were. some fans here have been skeptical of Douglas, simply because it’s difficult to put any guard on the floor who facilitates little or nothing on offense. when Bazemore faltered in the summer league and Ian Clark was assigned the lead, we saw a player with a far better shot who still kept aware of his open teammates.

Thurston Hunger

Iguadola was a fantastic pick up. Period. And as good as his 14 assists, his dogged focus on Nick Young this morning was worth heralding as well.

As for his playmaker nature, there’s no doubt that he is a smart and willing passer. Seeing plays before they develop and quite frankly catching some of the W’s unaware at times, that will get fixed. Maybe AI is too willing, but on a team with Steph, Klay and D. Lee, what’s just fine.

But as for his ball-handling, I still think he’s better as a hockey assist guy, getting a pass while he’s on the move, or from someone who penetrates and then making the proverbial extra pass for the great look. Klay was wide open thanks to Andre’s work. In the open court he AI can give or even better receive. I’d like to see him post up smaller guys with an eye to pass *or* get his own shot in those spots.

But seeing him start the offense at the top of the key, I think RickP may still have some sooth in what he sayeth. AI seems very right hand dominant on his dribbling to me.

Jim B did point out (translating from the Mandarin ;>) something I noticed too. AI’s long arms allows him to dribble really low at times and to pull the ball away from defenders before they can make a play on the ball.

As a true back-up point, I don’t see that yet, but he is clearly the better option over the W’s battling third tier. Where two guys truly seem to be SG’s and NN needs a lot more experience. And maybe I will see more of what you (and admittedly) the front office, see in AI running the offense. Would like to see some extended time in the next preseason game with him and the intended 2nd unit.

Again, AI was an excellent signing, who I will evolve with the W’s more and more. And again maybe will handle the ball as well as he sees the passes (his height was used to great advantage several times against the Lakers seeing over the defense).

James Online

I saw the game basically the same way, SON, thanks for the lengthy analysis. I’m hoping Bogut’s back issue in the game was one of those tweaks every player experiences when you land a bit wrong after a shot, and not something related to the previous problems. His presence is so vital to team success.
Thought Nedovic showed great promise with his floorplay, decision-making, and athleticism. Most impressive was his defense.
The team is playing well overall without Steph shooting lights out. The blend of players is working, and today the backups had a chance to play extended minutes, and develop better balance offensively and defensively.

Thurston Hunger

Agree with SoA that Dedmon has made a strong case for that 15th slot. Especially with both JON sitting and the Bogut grabbing at his back (looked kind of like where folks feel sciatica).

Dedmon though needs to work strongly on his pics. He looks like he’s blocking on a football squad out there, not just leaning but running into the defender. Could be some communication with teammates will help, but he needs a lot of work on that simple fundamental.

On the plus side he was not shy about his jump hook, and he is so long that he can get it off easily. How he deals with lower body contact will be huge in the future, but just having a big out there will be a plus, and he might be the last (big) man left standing.

Will Kuzmic agree to start in Santa Cruz? I think he needs to work on just the speed of the game. And regular time for him would be better, while the Dedmon if unprotected can be taken by another team. And as the broadcasters said last night, he likely would be.

The W’s definitely miss Festus.

Also on the Bogut early scratch, that either saves $1M or pushes the decision out. Not an easy call. I’d still go for it, but definitely with incentives and maybe more strongly managed conditioning (mandatory yoga).

sartre

On offense, what I want to see is team wide ball movement coupled with smart movement off the ball. I don’t give a fig whether or not there is a true PG backup to Curry. All I care about at the offensive end is whether the team creates enough makeable shots to win games and for the most part so far they seem to have been doing so (even if this was the first game when the shots were falling with greater efficiency).

RickP

If I recall correctly, I was commenting on what I saw in the first two games — and made that perfectly clear in the post. Taking a phrase out of context makes it seem like I was declaring, for all time, that Iggy isn’t a playmaker.
So far I’ve watched the first two games and the first 18 minutes or so of the latest game. In that 18 minutes I thought Iggy looked great — including fine passing. I’ll have to watch it again, but I didn’t see Iggy being a floor general. I’m definitely not saying he can’t do it. What I’ve been saying all along is that I want to see it with my own eyes.
The player I did see do that was Draymond. He was directing traffic and initiating the offense. When he did it, the ball really moved and the team scored. He also hit his shots. Not enough possessions to get too excited. But, you may recall that Draymond was a floor general and a decent 3 pt shooter in college.

knick

Nice to see such an emphatic win by the dubs. Interestingly it was without Bogut who has once again succumbed to his ailing back. Looks like Myers doesn’t have to wait long after all.

sartre

The back spasms are something he has dealt with in past seasons without it causing him to miss a notable number of games. I agree re Dedmon. Seth is bye-byes. With both O’Neal and Bogut missing PT in the pre-season due to back spasms, Ezeli out until next year, and MJ more than once heralding Dedmon as an nba player he’s destined for the last spot on the roster.

Thurston Hunger

A look at the Lakers

SoA’s post is very good below, but one thing to me in the third quarter it felt like the Lakers gave the game away as much as the W’s took it.

And for the Lakers, that D’Antoni offense needs some more motion. With Kaman (and a more and more reserved Gasol) the Laker’s should be doing more inside out stuff…instead its perimeter passing and then the first semi-open jump shot, all too often taking a three.

Nash helps some, but he’s just no longer quick/strong enough to demand that other W defenders focus on him, in fact the one thing the Lakers exploited was the W defender cheating/pushing Nash to the baseline, away from a pick. The W big man would move to trap Nash and he’d then make a behind-the-back pass to an open Laker for a 15 footer.

I think the W’s could actually put Iguadola on Nash in those cases and not help him at all. Let the rest of the defense stay focused on their men…If Nash gets a bucket, he’ll have to work hard for it, but smother the rest of the Lakers.

I wonder if the Triangle offense will return to LA before Kobe does.

And internal defense will be a big issue for the Lakers this season.

RickP

Back spasms can be crippling when they occur, but, for many people, they go away in less than a week or two and the back returns completely to normal.
16 hours in an airplane probably doesn’t help, although that was days ago. Maybe anticipating the flight home did him in.
I wonder what the footroom looks like to a 7 footer on a transpacific flight. Their usual plane?

thewarriorsrule

although the warriors added a very good player in iguodala, everyone anticipates the warriors will have an even better year next year. but i am doubtful. i think they will be 6 seed again. mainly because of the departure of mike malone, carl landry (things you don’t see on paper), and mark jackson at the helm.

losing malone means we lost our defensive direction. although last year the defense improved, we still had many ways to go. so many times i saw the other team get easy buckets they had no business attaining.

losing landry means we lost our interior scorer. sure, we are a jumpshooting team, but having an interior presence opens the door for open jumpshots. i don’t think mark jackson is smart enough to give our only last interior scorer option, bogut, more opportunities to shoot the ball. and by the way, lee is a jumpshooter, not an interior scorer.

i hope mark jackson will prove me wrong! but already i see him overplaying the starters in just the preseason. *shake my head*

Shawn K Frazier

You have the same fear I have. I think this team is going to be freeflowing offensively based on the playmaking of Curry and Igouldala. Coach Jackson will probably let improvising take over rather than set plays. I wish coach would draw up more screens esp to the corner 3 and along the baseline. I just don’t know that.coach ever draws anything up.
Watching Rose now, Curry at 730 can’t wait.

Thurston Hunger

Free Throws

Well it truly was a preseason game yesterday, and it’s great for the W’s to enjoy that long flight back with two wins, Bogut’s back not withstanding.

But something to watch early on this season is the W’s and free throws. Last night 8-12. Kobe would have had 12 FT’s by himself.

There was some joking about Maggette, but AI and KT (and HB when he returns) need to look at ways to get to the free throw line. The W’s should get more respect this year, but they won’t get so much respect to get a foul called on them with *no* contact.

Again last night is unfair, and hopefully the early season will have Curry and the starters Bazemore-ing
on the sidelines in the second half more often this year.

Oh yeah, one other comment on last night, so the W’s did not send Gentleman Jim Barnett, but Los Angeles sent the Laker Girls?

Thurston Hunger

Screens are going to be needed. Badly. Right now they’re just set badly.

Although it was kinda cool to see the elevator screen run for Seth to take a top of the key three. Look for it in the 4th q.

Also Steph needs to hook Seth up with some better shoes. Seth was slip and sliding too much last night..

Peter Moto

Iguodala is probably their best interior scorer now, with lee next. it probably isn’t Landry’s interior scoring that needs replacing. his shooting was highly efficient because it drew fouls. they can find means to score efficiently in Landry’s absence. what they will probably miss is the very effective Landry-Lee combo, with lee at center, that won them so many games last year. there’s no forward they have who seems likely to combine with lee at center as well.

can only hope that fans who keep kvetching about missing Landry also realize he’s going to miss most of this season with a hip injury. even he was kept for the roster, they would probably still be kvetching about missing him.

Peter Moto

if the fans are taking comfort that Bogut has a back problem rather than ankle or elbow ailments, they might review his 2008-2009 season in Mil when he could play only 32 games. back strain. he also had bulging discs last season that interrupted his second half come back. kranky backs do not respond well to air travel or games on consecutive nights, and the schedule imposes both on plenty of road trips. Bogut has played 70 or more games in a season three times out of eight.

So Steph Curry is now wearing under Armour Shoes let’s see how he does with that

Shawn K Frazier

I’ve hated the way that Dubs set screens recently, so many moving screens. Last year seeing Festus Ezeli screen perimeter then another screen on the outside without looking for the ball led to double teams that Steph Curry would dribble into. Bad basketball we’ll see if that changes

Shawn K Frazier

The Bogut Warriors commercial was terrible

Shawn K Frazier

I love Igoudala on the team. Barnes would love playing together with him due to Barnes ability to slash. Klay getting better at slashing and dunking too. Lets run backdoors for everyone.

Shawn K Frazier

So who watched the replay? Have it on delay. So looking forward to more Dre. Not having Bogut is interesting the way the D shined after halftime.

Shawn K Frazier

I’ve been ok with Spieghts on the floor with Lee. Spieghts playing stretch 5.

Shawn K Frazier

In a way better than Landry n Lee. Blocked shots, put backs. Bigger than Landy or Lee.

Zume

You make a good point warriorrule. The way I see it we are creating more open shots with our quickness and our defense, blocks, team unselfishness, along with fast breaks. Lee gets inside shots because the outside shooting and passing makes this happen. When the shots aren’t falling we will need to toughen up our defense and be patient. Our team dynamics are improving. For example, Iguodala getting 14 assists.

Bryan Hsiao

RickP, it’s not their usual plane. Supposedly much bigger so that it accomodates family members and all thestaffs.

but obviously, less leg rooms for the players.

Bryan Hsiao

hold on, Rickp, you were saying that after you declared you have watched how players played before including last season to know enough to make some proclamations.
now you are saying you just based on the previous few preseason games?

are you kidding me that Dre is not a floor general but Draymond is in this game??!!
Dre could have 20 assists easily if Curry can nail his usual % of those wide open shots created by Dre, and 4 of Dedmon’s inside attempts & klay’s canceled alleyoop dunk.

Dre did not initiate the offense?? the way he propped the opponent’s defense has not been seen. his height/athleticism demanded double teams from the opponents and those qualities + his great vision with the ball still allowed him to pass to the open man or dish off under the basket for easy 2s.

He just demonstrated something Jack could not do for us. Jack has to shoot and make his jumpers to open up the court for his penetration.
Dre just penetrates anyway with crossover+explosiveness and he has a much better vision ON the ball than Jack. And Dre doesn’t even have to resort to get his share of points to achieve this.

Shawn K Frazier

So my takeaway from the fourth. qtr with 5 to go is Dedmon looks very much alive and even ran a fastbreak which was sucessful. Everyone looks good and most importantly, Nedovic looks much better than TD. Suppose its not too surlrising. TD signed to just defend Steph Curry in practice. Ouch.

Shawn K Frazier

Also the Chinese are rooting for the Lakers.

Our Team

Iguodala has such better court vision than JJack, is a much better defender and can score and create off the dribble just fine. He is a huge upgrade for the Warriors as a second facilitator on the court. Speights gives up some efficient scoring to Landry, but regains some of that edge by being much bigger and able to guard fives next to Lee and Barnes at 4 when Bogut is off the court.

Bryan Hsiao

finally watched the first 43 mins of the game which I missed in the first time around.
OMG!!! how much would I miss if they do not re-air it again albeit non-hd.

thanks for sludge and JSL’s reminder on 7:30pm replay.

now my 2cents:

1. Dre is every bit as I imagined to be and MORE.

Dre could have 20+ assists easily if Curry could nail his usual % of those wide open shots created by Dre, and 4 of Dedmon’s inside attempts were not fouled/missed & klay’s canceled alleyoop dunk.

The way he propped the opponent’s defense has not been seen for a long long time here. his height/athleticism demanded double teams from the opponents and those qualities + his great vision with the ball still allowed him to pass to the open man or dish off under the basket for easy 2s after he attracted multiple opponents to him.

He just demonstrated something Jack could not do for us. Jack has to shoot and make his jumpers to open up the court for his penetration.
Dre just penetrates anyway with crossover+explosiveness+stronger physique and he has a much better vision ON the ball than Jack. And Dre doesn’t even have to resort to get his share of points to achieve this.

Dre could get to the basket with his length after just 1-2 dribbles and the opponent’s bigs had to react/help, Lee/Speights/Dedmon could then just move into the paint wide open while Dre uses his hops/length/vision to pass over/underhands with ease.
if the bigs are not coming to help, Dre could just easily glide through his man for a layup/dunk.

Jack most of the time could not commit too deep because his vision/length limited his options but to resort his patented jumper/floater.

Very very encouraged with Dre’s play making. Like someone mentioned in this thread earlier, I’ve never seen Dre play this happily on the court. Very happy for him and us to have him here.

2. Nedovic —> a true PG with a feel of the game.
Like SOA described, he has that bounce and feel of a natural PG comparing to Bazemore/Seth/TD.
He ran many 2men game with Green/Kuzmic/Dedmon and the timing of the dish off after them rolled was impeccable.
Nedovic did not try to get his like Bazemore had been doing and instead he plays like pass-first PG for us. I see a lot of SCurry/Green/Bogut/Lee/Dre in him as when he was on the court, the ball movement just sped up and got into a different gear. He doesn’t try to force things but prop the defense always by using the screen smartly.
There is a reason why he had played professional euro league basketball for a couple years.

And his defense imo was pretty solid albeit inexperienced. His athleticism and hops is as good as advertised shown by his blow by drive and double clutch with English over PGasol, and his 2 handed dunk with full speed up the court.

As I predicted before the preseason , he will be in the mix of getting the nod on the first PG off the bench. Just this game already makes his spot jump to the top of the pecking order.

Happy for him and for our team.

3. Green definitely worked very hard in this summer. shot looks much better with no hiccup and he is faster with quicker feet that he can guard most of the SFs as well imo. Dre/Draymond/HBarnes/Thompson –> 2ways athletic wings that can play some stretch 4s as well —> versatility galore on the perimeter!!

4. Welcome Dedmon, goodbye Seth (or see you in Santa Clara unsigned) Bazemore will stay as 2 or really spot duty at 1.

I see that Knick is giggling about Bogut’s backspasm..
What a fan eh?
at least he got slapped on the face with Dre and Nedovic’s wonderful performance.

Bryan Hsiao

Agree completely with you on Dre & Speights.
Dre can just grab a defensive rebound in traffic and start the fastbreak on his own AND still be able to see the court to pass to the open man.

better than advertised for sure.

sartre

Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe project the Dubs as the most watchable team in the nba this coming season:

“Bill: … The Warriors also have lineup flexibility — they can go big or small. Plus, they mixed it up from last season by adding Iggy, which gives them a different feel from last year and opens up engaging questions like “What’s their best lineup?” and “Is this setting Harrison Barnes back?” I think they’re a top-10 team and a fringe contender, but they aren’t good enough to win at home by going on cruise control — that means we’re getting their best every night. And best of all, they have one of the league’s best “TURN THIS GAME ON RIGHT F—ING NOW!”guys. What am I missing? Don’t be ashamed, Zach Lowe. Follow your heart.

Zach: Curry was the guy who really swung this. I’m not sure exactly when it started — maybe the 54-point game at MSG, maybe earlier — but he is crashing the top of the “change the channel, this guy is going crazy” rankings. I mean, who else is up there? LeBron, Rose, Kyrie, Durant, Curry … is that it? Maybe a rejuvenated Dirk? Other guys can take over games, but they either need someone to pass them the ball (Griffin), or they are more clinical than stylish/explosive/insane (Chris Paul, James Harden).

Bill: It’s LeBron, Curry and Durant…

Zach: Iggy is going to be so great here, filling all the little gaps — guarding the best perimeter player, making the right passes on offense, passing and cutting so that the system keeps moving. I love that guy…”

MJack said Bogut wanted to stay in the game but he subbed Bogut out immediately. Bogut went straight to the locker room. (probably frustrated about this hiccup during the middle of contract extension talks)

I thought I was clear. I posted first about the opening 18 minutes. If you watch that, you will see Dre running the offense on a total of 2 plays. In addition to that, he made a couple of good passes as the ball zipped around. Good passes, but not as a PG or Point anything. You will also see Draymond directing traffic and initiating the offense exactly like a PG on a couple of plays.
It was in the next 18 minutes that Dre did what you said, and I saw all of it. That is, I agree with you. And, although I didn’t watch Draymond as closely, I didn’t see him as Point again — maybe he did it, but I didn’t pay attention. I’d have to watch the game again.
In fact, I was very pleased to see it. I have posted before that I couldn’t recall seeing Iggy functioning as a PG. I haven’t seen him all that much, I didn’t watch it closely during the playoffs and I couldn’t tell from the stats. I could tell he could rack up assists but I couln’t tell the context.
I do take the liberty of posting my thoughts without having watched NBA.TV 24/7. Also, I like to base my posts on my own observations. How did everybody else know that Iggy was a capable PG? Everybody has watched Denver that much?
So, for me, this game was telling. I’d been looking for the backup floor general, I’d been looking for Draymond’s shot. I’m now thinking that Lee/Green/Barnes may be a decent PF combination, whatever happens with Speights and JON. I’m still concerned about the durability of Bogut and Jon.

RickP

It’s so common I often accept it without thinking, but there is something about Giggles I find particularly annoying.
He doesn’t merely describe what has happened, but he injects his own evaluation of individual actions and, also, his advice for how the player should play. Some may see this as an expert offering commentary, but it rubs me the wrong way. I see it as smarmy.

sartre

Totally with you on Iguodala. I don’t see so much to feel encouraged by in Speights but hopefully he’ll be serviceable in his limited role.

jsl165

Silly boy.

Shawn K Frazier

For a period of time in the third qtr, Green was Igoudala.
Much less money but not much less production… have a great weekend.

Bryan Hsiao

I for one never said Iggy ran as a PG before.
But by watching him many times before, I knew his court vision/basketball IQ/athleticism allow him to make play just fine.
Jack is also NOT a traditional PG either. Not a pass first PG at least.

Who cares if they run/start at PG or not?
as long as they can make plays for their teammates and sped up the ball movement to create opportunities for each other, I would be content with that.

I would not need Dre to bring the ball up every single time when Curry is off the court.
Nedovic&TD&Bazemore can do that as well.
But when we want someone to make a play, I trust Dre to have the ball either initiating the play or do the hockey pass as a stop to the next player.

Lee&Bogut&Green&Klay all are capable of making plays like that. They are not PGs either.

Bryan Hsiao

I LMAO that he always logged off his own account and liked his own post with a guest account lol

Can you imagine a Warriors fan feel so good about a Warriors player getting hurt?

Wow

knick

that’s very silly why will i feel good about a person getting hurt?

Bryan Hsiao

btw our bigs all can run the floor pretty well.
Dedmon has quick feet and can even dribble a little on the break.
Kuzmic shows fairly quick sprint as well.

We had twin towers Dedmon + Kuzmic on the court in the fourth qtr and I liked it.
Our team is just very versatile with a mix of talents in each position.

Bryan Hsiao

lol we can all read between the lines here.
Stop fooling yourself silly boy

sartre

Teams have been successful without backup floor generals. For example, Corey Joseph is a nice player but likely doesn’t fit that description. How were the Spurs successful in the playoffs with him backing up Parker? They had an excellent secondary ball handler in their SG 6th man (who was also used to initiate the offense on occasions) and the Spurs team offense employs lots of ball movement among good passers with high BB IQ. They are able to crisply execute offensive sets and react to what the defense gives them. This is the template the FO seems to have embraced.