Its almost like I'm having a super o but not feeling the pleasure or something hah!

Anyways, the slow movements i see people doing is what i get the difference is for every one 'take in' and release i get 3 or 4, its like a benny hill version of what they're doing! I feel this is barrier somehow, its too quick that i cannot control it and thus not feel anything at all.

So you're saying when you clench/tense (i assume you're not a 'do nothing' approach) you get a slow movement and not a fast one like i described above?

I used to get that alot, and still do frequently, like you have all the hallmarks of a super O but no pleasure, thats pretty much what a super O "is", but WITH the pleasure LOL. The only difference is letting go, though if you figure out how to do that, then your golden. Its also kinda scary the first few times because you know something big and scary might happen.

Not sure what you mean by slow movements. I am a do nothing practitioner, though lately been trying some contractions when things get boring, not much to report though, my body has always been pretty good at starting the involuntaries almost immediately upon insertion. My involuntaries are usually pretty slow, you can feel them, but very subtle. Once in a while things will get crazy and i'll get what they call auto fucking, where its just pumping in and out fast and hard, but very rarely. Sometimes my invluntaries are almost undetectable, and that can be when things get crazy, like dry O"s/super O's. I know its all confusing, it still is for me for the most part!

wow just sitting as i type this, with my aneros in and having mini orgasms/superb feelings in the prostate area for the last 30 mins or so,... not sure where the hell they have come from??? just felt pleasure for some reason and then decided to see what the aneros would do to enhance it. A lot apparrantly.

Lots of leg shaking and other stuff/involuntary movements. Seems it only works when I'm sitting though? very happy right now i can tell you....! bit of precum too. Oh and still got massive hard ons, not thinking about having one or watching anything, just working on the computer, not even really turned on. WIth the erection though comes the waves of total awesome pleasure as i type this!

Seems i am at the mercy of my prostate. If i want a session then nothing happens, nothing at all. Rubbish.

So what i do get is random waves of pleasure and mini-o's at total random at some point in a random day, not with a device or looking at anything arousing, it just happens without my consent or control. So thats when i need to use the device and i do get (minor) results, but only when my prostate allows me to do it. (these are so rare though its beyond silly)

Again I'm the only person her reporting this, why is it I'm having random/weird/undocumented stuff happening all the time? its getting a little bit on the tiresome side!

sounds like your beginning to rewire, to me anyways. It was common for me in the beginning too, the pleasure feelings would come out of nowhere even if i had no device in, eventually that will come more only when your aroused.

"random/weird/undocumented stuff" sounds better to me then normal/boring/routine, but hey, thats just me! Is the glass half full or half empty?

Well use it is preferable to sessions ending in disappointment, though that still happens.. at least with this its something, rarely something anyway, so for that i am pleased.

I feel that the session I'm having always end in disappointment therefore i didn't feel a sense of progress, though its clear i have made some. I also don't mean disappointment in the sense of 'oh no orgasm again then' but more in the sense that the device doesn't feel its doing anything of any kind, pleasurable or-otherwise. This is still the case even now, but when my prostate wants it, it lets me know and i am a slave to it, i am its bitch. (lol)

your attitude can facilitate whether you have a good/bad session, make sure you are in the right frame of mind when having a session. If you arent feeling it, then just hold off and do it some other time. I would also suggest the same thing if you are consistently feeling in the back of your mind that its going to be a dud, you know the self full-filling prophecy thing, it can affect your sessions too. Maybe give it a two week break and come back refreshed and full of renewed vigor towards opening up your mind and just enjoying the subtle feelings you are getting and not worrying so much about what may or may not happen. In my experience this is when some of the best things can happen.

If you are not feeling much movement, no involuntaries, one thing you can try, hold a contraction of your anal and pc muscles at about 50%, just hold it and try and forget about the fact you are holding it, and just clear your mind and think arousing things, eventually your muscles will get tired and you should start feeling some good movement.

While I agree with most of what you have just said, I do believe that what eventually got me over the hump was using the smallest Peridise almost every night (except weekends) for a few weeks.

I made sure it was well lubed and that I was pre-lubed with shea butter and then made a routine of inserting at bedtime with absolutely no expectations. This tool is so small that you barely know it's there. This means I can fall asleep as usual within about 15 or 20 minutes of retiring, but invariably wake up in the wee small hours to a strong body buzzing. This would keep me awake until I removed it and I would then sleep undisturbed until about 7AM.

The benefit of all this was that on waking at 7AM, I would have consistently such strong echo effects that I would have Anerosless dry Os for the next hour.

I now find that these Anerlosless Os occur almost every morning regardless of whether I have used the Peridise the night before or not.

Having a session with my Progasm Junior or with any other tool in the morning is now pretty much assured to be a success and icing on the cake!.

Peridse sounds good @Pommie, i always thought they weren't really used for prostate stimulation, i was considering the eupho as it might do something different somehow. With regard to the peredise, which one did/do you use as you get two different ones in the packet by the looks of it?

I originally obtained the complete set of four "Peristals" from HIH (for treatment and relief from haemorrhoids),and followed their instructions, using each one for a while from the largest down to the smallest.

I now only use the smallest one. Frankly I wouldn't be able to sleep for more than a few minutes with the larger ones. Like you, I couldn't really get any proper sleep at all with a Helix on board, although I have sleep a couple of hours with the Eupho.

I'm finding that i don't get much pleasure using the device at all in sessions, but the next day without a device i feel nice things, is that anything anyone else is reporting?

Also when using the device if i want to feel anything at all while using it i find using my modified MGX which has the swirly bit cut off is the best when I'm sitting on a cushion or in a sitting position, is this safe/good and have others tried this method?

whether your session was good or bad, pleasure the next day is a good sign.

I cut the swirly part of the tail off of all of my devices as it helps with movement and the tail doesnt get hung up on anything. Sitting with it in on a chair is probably fine, but you really will not get much movement, so not sure whats the point. If you do sit, just make sure you ease into it like an old man into a bath lol.

yeah its a good sign etc and i am careful when sitting (the sitting, or actually standing as well) is the only thing that creates 'nice' feelings, nothing earth shattering but there we are. All these videos and people here saying they do it by lying down, or on their side or even in a doggy position puzzle me, these well practised methods do NOTHING for me, i have to f**king sit on it, you know, where it can't move or anything! amazing.

I actually get lots of pleasureable feelings when sitting even without the aneros, though if I lay down I will lose them, so I think I agree with you on that. Maybe try using the aneros in a sitting position but sit each cheek on a pillow so it will not interfere with movement of your device. In fact I'll try that myself ;)

so i work in the furniture repair arena and i have access to foam cores for furniture. I cut the center out of one and made it kinda look like a toilet seat. Spent the session in a sitting position for the most part, its a recliner so i tilted it back slightly. It was definitely an interesting session compared to just laying on my back, though it didnt end up being anything spectacular. i will try again and see where it goes.

Bit of an update & some observations as well asquestions for hopefully moving forward.

With every session I know have with my device(s) I find thatI get very rapid and uncontrollable leg twitching, when I ‘tense’ that areainside. Interestingly this leg twitching occurs even when I’m not in a sessionand there is no device at all. I don’t see people anywhere here reporting this,not anywhere at all.

Secondly when using the device (tensing) i usually need to belying flat on my back with my legs straight causes the device to move (resultingin leg twitching) which also rapidly moves in and out which I’vereported before, but get no detectable pleasure at all.

Another interesting point is that when I’m tensing it results inan erection that is harder than I ever had. This erection in itself causes pleasure in the prostate area, though it is not anything so amazing that a normal self pleasuring sessionwould outclass.

If however I tense with this super erection together with a device, within an hour or so I can achieve an orgasm withouttouching myself! The orgasm is usually poor, but sometimes is good. Some timesI teeter on the edge of an orgasm and come back an forth from climax to buildup for 5-6 times.

As before I see nobody mentioning or recording this. Usually if I just concentrate on the aneros device it justresults fatigue in the prostate area and no pleasure.

What do those of you that are stuck here find worked or movedyou forward?

Well darkengine, this i already knew and it makes little difference how aroused i am, though just so you are aware i am always (more or less 100% of the time) aroused when entering a session, the device certaintly moves more quickly and vigoursly, but it still results in NO pleasure, i mean literally nothing. That cannot, i repeat cannot be right? its like, i have the device working as it should, but it just doesn't produce any feelings! its like eating the most glorious and expensive food but it having no taste!

Maybe do some sessions where you do nothing but deep belly breathing. Any tension or involuntaries that occur, try to relax them away as well. And focus on subtle sensations no matter how insignificant.

Sounds to me as if your routine and choice of tools are ideal so I am a little surprised at your apparent lack of success.

Might I suggest that you try the Peridise set and mix them in with your current stable. I'm sure the use of these in accordance with instructions from HIH, coupled with a period containing some overnighters with the smaller ones, helped to get me past the road block.

Admittedly, I did get them primarily for the relief of haemorrhoids, but I soon discovered that they do have this tremendous additional advantage.

You're surprised? imagine mine! and the money this company have had from me for bits of plastic i have been shoving up my ass for years, for NO actual point, it would seem....! Can you all see why i might think this is all false? some sort of scam or joke?

I can try what you say but I'm unwilling to spend yet more money on something that i know in my heart just wont work! if this company believed in what they make then let them send me all the models they do and when i get some success then i will pay for them and rave from the friggin' rooftops about how awesome they are! seriously, 3 freaking years man!!!

I also kind of confused/slight angry as to some of my results and side effects I'm experiencing, that nobody in aneros history seems to concur with, such as (just a few, there are lots more things i experience):

"The other thing that is a big problem is the involuntary leg movements i am getting. I also get these OUTSIDE of aneros sessions and are usually when my legs are close together.

They are uncontrollable, i literally cannot stop them. When using the aneros they are super violent and are verrrrry fast. THey are so violent that i am unable to stop them from happening, it also results in it being a distraction from making the device work, but again even if i am gripping my legs they get crazy and ruin things.

When these leg movements happen it usually causes my penis to move which triggers pleasure in it, again detracting from prostate concentration.

Lastly, during my sessions i will occasionally get these lovely sensations, which i assume to be the device working but what I've actually discovered is my bladder filling up/putting pressure on things inside, so as soon as i go pee the pleasure stops. How weird?

Same thing goes when i get an erection, lovely pleasure inside until its fully hard, then nothing."

Though, as I've said before, i will keep trying but seriously i am feeling so stupid lately and that its all big joke all of this, the pleasure people report just cant exist and this just cant work. I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but there just isn't any evidence other than ramblings from people on a forum. If it were a year ago, when i was still positive then yes i would happily try it all, but its not its now 3 years (in fact over that), i seem to be the only one trying for this long without success, it even made me doubt i had a prostate at one point (yes i realise this is stupid, but when you're upset and exhausted from trying at something, you start to think outside the box)

Perhaps your prostate is numb. Take some time off and start again at a later time if you wish. Now that you're feeling hostile probably nothing will happen. After a great session I had involuntaries that lasted a couple days, which overworked my prostate and now it is completely numb, devoid of all sensation. I hope my sensation comes back as well, b/c it was just starting to get good.

2 years? so then 5 years with nothing, NO pleasure? wow, what a trooper!

I dont have success on any trip, at least not success that involves the aneros actually working, what i thought was progress recently actually isn't at all, in fact it appears to have been the opposite. It would be nice to enjoy the 'fun' as you put it, but i don't experience that either, not unless i am in need of a pee or getting hard ons when i can actually feel the prostate doing something, if only for a few seconds.

Numb? i dont think so, i can still orgasm traditionally very well. The side effects arnt a problem, they dont scare or worry me, but they are distracting! my legs go crazy, i don't get why and i don't know how to control it, i see others stating they get 'in-voluntaries' and 'twitching', which is fine but i want to know why they happen, as this may help me better understand and control them.

See i feel like something is happening but i cant tell if its good or not! nobody even knows if using an aneros in a repeated fashion can cause damage (i'm pretty sure it wont but nobody says definitively that its 100% safe when the results from person to person seem to vary wildly.)

I dont want to stop because i feel there is something there, but i have real, serious moments of doubt, jealousy and occasional anger when the effort i put it, and believe me i put it in, yields no results, even slight, which i don't think is too much to ask. Just so you know i didnt expect reward in any way, or results, not for the first two years anyway. I still seem to be no better off than a beginner, i should be a veteran of experience, shouldn't i? Im still at square one, and can give no advice to newbies or first timers because i am very much exactly where they are!

In fact i was happy to enjoy the ride, to have a journey, but now i'm tired, frustrated, confused and alone. I am weary. But its the stories i read of people here (which i at times think are plants potentially) that get me excited and want to continue... i just hope they are real people and telling a truthful account.

If i quit now, even for a 'break' as it were i would feel even worse, all that effort and time for nothing, i must continue because the way i will feel will be worse than i feel now. All I need is to gain 1% progress to get my positivity back that i once had, that isn't too much to ask is it?

Just one last thing i want to add as well, the packaging of the aneroes states that you put the device in and it then works automatically. That is such BS i cannot even begin to believe its actually there, in black ink on that packaging! Perhaps once you are rewired, yes that may be true, but it mentions nothing of this process whatsoever.

@inhope, i can say that the results of the aneros are real, i have felt them, though like others have said, it is not always a given. I have had spotty results and been using over two years now. I have had a couple of the elusive super O's and multiple dry O's though i havent had any O's in quite a few months. Most of my sessions are usually very pleasureable though as of late no O's for whatever reason. The suggestion to break for say two weeks is not a bad one. I have done this and was amazed at how my prostate came to life just thinking about having a session. Its at least worth a shot. Also taking a break would also help you re-energize and come back with a better attitude. My personal belief is that your expectations and attitude has a tremendous affect on how well an aneros sessions goes, so i will leave you with this quote that i like. "Happiness is not a matter of good fortune or worldly possessions. It's a mental attitude. It comes from appreciating what we have, instead of being miserable about what we don't have. It's so simple?yet so hard for the human mind to comprehend."Bits and Pieces

I agree that the marketing approach of Aneros is misleading for most people. I can still have a good traditional orgasm even though my prostate is currently numb. It just won't sense my Aneros right now. Maybe take a break and ease into it when you come back. Try shorter sessions with no expectations. I would be frustrated in your position too, but maybe you've been trying too hard.

@inhope well what do you expect? "Try the Aneros! Within 5 years most people are able to have prostate orgasms!"...

Although it deffinitly has some hype to it, I k ow I wouldn't have stuck around if it was like " Try our product maybe. I think one guy once had a good orgasm once with one. No promises though. We can't guarantee it".

Quote, "Just one last thing i want to add as well, the packaging of the aneroes states that you put the device in and it then works automatically."

@inhope, I am no where as long a user as you are. I agree that there is no automatic working of the Aneros for me! It just sits there! I have tried all the known ways to coax it into spontaneity, but no it just sits there. I do however feel a pressure response from probably my prostate and against my BC muscle. I can move the aneros up and down using various muscles, I may just get a mini single involuntary or perhaps two in succession when the moon is full. I can trigger a single involuntary by tightening up various muscles except the BC and PC ones. But this is probably teaching myself bad habits - for which I will no doubt pay for later.

On the positive side I believe the presence of the Aneros and the Prostates' rather pathetic response has greatly improved my attitude, my sex with my partner, the well being of all the pelvic area, and my 'rhoids have all but gone. I sleep much better with an Aneros. But it is still frustrating that I don't seem to be able to get to the "thrilling" bit, this may be good as my body may not be able to take too many thrills, being somewhat long in the tooth. but perhaps I am rationalising.

I find it difficult to read the members super o's - an fact even their sequential in-voluntaries. I am not moaning, just saying there are quite a few plodders.

@ctusser you have me slightly concerned, is it possible i wonder that a prostate can ALWAYS be numb? perhaps from previous/prior damage? i cant see that being true? i cant even see it being true in any other way for that matter.

I should also have mentioned that I've had breaks, around 2.5 years in i had a break of almost a month and again there was little difference when returning. I am starting to think that maybe just maybe the aneros device experience is more unsuccessful for most that it is successful....

Can i also state that before a thread was made regarding videos of people using their devices, the videos you would find on the net would involve someone using a device whilst masturbating. This company should have had some instruction videos out somewhere/everywhere to stop people getting the wrong end of stick, because for a looooong time i assumed that it was something to aid those kinds of sessions.

Also im not mocking their marketing, I'm just stating it needs to be better! It literally states on the first use of it that it works (it moves in and out) automatically! this is literally true of nobody that I've ever heard of!? I'm not being nasty or condemning it or anything just that its not particularly clear or accurate. Okay maybe i am mocking it a little!

nobody is addressing inhope's basic problem; prostate massage with the aneros doesn't feel pleasurable and it should. Also the contractions are normal but don't produce pleasure as they should. The leg shaking is a sign that the device and the prostate are making contact but again not resulting in the expected pleasure. This has me perplexed too. Inhope seems to be doing everything correctly and getting the right responces but it doesn't produce pleasure and it should. Why? I've heard of taking a long time on one's path to achieve a super O or a mini O, but I assumed that the pleasure response was pretty immediate and reliable if one was following directions and massaging the prostate correctly. Is this correct? Heck, even I got pleasure from the get go.

Inhope, I hate to hear you wondering if your prostate is damaged somehow. It seems unlikely that the aneros would have damaged it. It sounds more like a problem with the neural networks around the prostate but I'm not an expert. Maybe some of the moderators could suggest something at this point? Maybe a private conversation?

I've heard of women who simply are not able to orgasm. I watched a show some years back where a doctor was trying some sort of tens type(electro stim) insertion into the spinal chord of these women and was able to have them achieve orgasm that way, as if there was something wrong with the neural wiring in their bodies. I guess if thats possible then its certainly possible for the same type of dysfunction in the neural wiring of a male and their prostate. Any thoughts?

I was making great progress and having good pleasure, then the involuntaries started. A week ago I had a great session but the involuntaries continued for a couple days and wouldn't stop. This fatigued my muscles severely and numbed my prostate. Since then I have been able to ejaculate and recieve pleasure. But I inserted my pro Jr. again last night and got no sensation. But the involuntaries started again and have lasted all night and all day without my ability to stop them. This is starting to concern me about potential harm to my body. I'm going to stop for a while to let my body heal. Hopefully I will eventually be able to turn these off when I want to. Or I'll have to give it up, losing control of my body for such extended periods is scary.

@euphemistic you are the first person to put into words what i have been unable to for some time! This is exactly whats happening, i get all the correct steps but no pleasure. Though i do get "some" feelings but nothing that even approaches super O. I just assumed that it was a question of time to get to a super O or some build up of some kind.

This energy of which many of you speak, i do experience it, but only if i watch something arousing, it never happens (nor do i believe it happens to any other man on earth) from just "imagining" it.

Again its been 3 years, not 3 months, i should be feeling something. In those early days i wonder if i somehow misused the aneros (due to lack of knowledge on how to actually use it because of a poor instructional guide that aneros as a company, well just didn't properly provide) and it caused some kind of strange issue with my prostate, that may even be permanenent.

I recall i used to get discharge when i would have a bowel movement, even to this day, which i never experienced before btw. I also used to get some stinging sort of hot pain when orgasming for a time, maybe about 5 months, but this has subsided and i still get normal orgasm. Again where is the literature on misuse and its effects? i even thought i may have had prostatitius for a time,but it didnt all fit where symptoms are concerned and now the pain etc is 100% gone.

It doesn't however, explain the times when i have had mini p-waves and the occasional 'rush' in that area from time to time (admittedly AFTER aneros use, never during) or the ability to orgasm by just tensing my anal muscles/aneros etc when i do have a session and get bored after 2hrs and want something to happen (again my patience is gone, seriously gone)

My last session, i felt something nice, not mind blowing but nice, so i went with it... it built up and up and up and resulted in a traditional ejaculation. Seriously pisses me off that, why do i cum, why does NOBODY else eh?

its all good Pommie, no hard feeling anywhere. I do understand that my responses are ones of deep frustration and occasional anger, which i think is understandable during the time frame and lack of progress.

however that being said, if i am objective (once in a blue moon!) i suppose there HAS been progress, teeny, tiny and comparatively insignificant in contrast to others here it may be, but i suppose its in the right direction.

The last session i had for example i felt something the whole time, an energy building (especially with the aid of porn) and even a tiny bit without. It felt at times with enough tensing that i could feel something more, but it would always level out to nothing, or my bladder would fill and i would need to pee which would sort of reset things somewhat. Even as i type this i get the occasional jolt of feeling in the prostate, its got hint of orgasmic quality about it, sometimes it makes my jaw drop as its a taste of pure ecstasy, but that only increases my frustration, it last but a second and its gone. I'm left feeling unsure what just happened. This is what makes me believe that i have made progress and that it isn't 'numb'. Perhaps i am just too impatient (again after 3 years of nothing/not much, who wouldn't be?)

That session though ended in normal orgasm sadly, which was nothing amazing at all, i genuinely thought it would be a different kind of orgasm, so was further frustrated and confused. Anyway i don't mind if the progress i make is tiny but it seems I'm stuck here and I'm worried that the aneros when it does work will just result in normal orgasms.

I have a theory, which some have stated before but until i wrote this post down i didn't believe.... perhaps i have it working and i'm at the right stage to experience the super O and whatever, but my prostate isn't quite yet 'awakened', perhaps i need to solidly do sessions for a week, an hour long perhaps ie shorter and expecting nothing, seeing what that does to the situation.

@inhope I know that a lot of guys get a lot from the "do nothing and let it happen approach". But it doesn't do it for everyone. I've been doing prostate play as part of my sex life for a long time and the do nothing thing simply doesn't work for me. I enjoy all kinds of other prostate pleasure, from massage to pegging to vibrators to using the Aneros, but even with all of my experience, I need a more active experience. I love the Aneros products, but I always use them in a more direct way. Different bodies, different experiences.

I've also been exploring tantra and sexual energetic practices for almost as long as prostate play, and I do have multiple orgasms from it. But again, it works when I'm doing more active stuff.

So I'm wondering- have you ever tried using the Aneros in a more active way, like with direct cock stimulation? Some men's prostates don't engorge until they're already pretty turned on, so they might need more direct pleasure first. I've wondered whether the do nothing technique works better for guys who are 40+ years old, since the prostate often gets bigger. I know that it can be a lot harder to find on younger men unless they're really turned on first. Maybe that's what's going on for you?

Just a suggestion that has been working well for me lately. I have been using Aneros massagers for about six years now. I doubt that I have ever had what others on this forum describe as a super O, but know that I have been close. My prostate gets numb rather quickly. I've become rather adept about involuntaries and such, but after about twenty minutes into a session my prostate just goes numb. Although I have a very high libido, I am physically not that sensitive. Rarely can I even achieve traditional orgasm during sexual acts with a partner. It can be rather frustrating, because the beginning of my sessions feel amazingly wonderful! Then, unfortunately, I just go numb down there. It stills feels good, but not explosive like it does several minutes in. Rather than having lengthy sessions over an hour, I try to practice for shorter periods of time, more often. Seems to have brought me back to a progressive track after hitting a very long plateau.

Also, I find I get more of a reaction when going against many of the suggestions I read here. Sometimes penile stimulation, not to ejaculation, ahead of times can really be helpful. Or sometimes, not warming up and building my arousal level ahead time and just diving right in can be a boost of it's own. I even find that going minimal on lube can often give me more sensation. I try to mix it up often and not have a ritualistic Aneros sessions. Trying to keep the terminology like 'p-waves" "involuntaries" and even "prostate," out of my mind seem to keep me from over-analyzing what is occurring.

Take a break, and when you come back try to forget everything you have read before in these forums, and find out what works for you. You may even discover another method of prostate stimulation other than Aneros that just work better for you individually.

@ChalrieGlickman thats ALL ive been doing is direct stimulation, which results in nice feelings right up until orgams where its either such a subdued orgasm or just a normal one, its literally pointless. I would rather it work like its supposed or like the company states its supposed to, but that does seem like its asking too much.