Yes sitting at the front of the enemy's spawn is lots of strategy and tactic you have 0.001% chance of being killed once you are in front of the enemy's spawn making the gun battles so intense. *Cough* sarcasm Hijacked was a garbage map no matter what anyone says it didn't tactic or skill or strategy it only took sitting in front of their spawn oh no that's so hard.

Yes sitting at the front of the enemy's spawn is lots of strategy and tactic you have 0.001% chance of being killed once you are in front of the enemy's spawn making the gun battles so intense. *Cough* sarcasm Hijacked was a garbage map no matter what anyone says it didn't tactic or skill or strategy it only took sitting in front of their spawn oh no that's so hard.

the same could really be said about any map on just about any FPS game, even giant ones like planet side 2

Um I never had spawn issue problems on any other maps except Hijacked and Nuketown and sometimes Havana all people did on those maps was sit in front of the enemy spawn and spawn kill on all game modes.

Okay I am going to learn the coding of this game and hack it. Or I am going to learn the boosting spots in Infected and boost with my split screener. Seriously spawn exploitation is no better then hacking the game or boosting. There is no skill involved or tactic or learning the game how you put it. It's all just an exploit and it got old fast. I miss when Call of Duty was fun instead of being some wannabe competitive garbage game with no identity to what kind of actual game it was.

I have been playing call of duty for a long time and ive put my hours into this one already as well. To be quite honest its not much different, a lot of people are just way to quick judge and complain. you all ever think that maybe if you all weren't so busy changing the game for certain things that annoy you, then you could get used to the game and all the perks to every weapon/perk/lethal/etc. Anyways all imm saying is this game isn't hard you all are just making it hard. Ive played with a team of 4 plus most of the time on the game which I can say makes it a lot more fun because you don't have to worry about quickscopers or trolls which in my opinion ruins games but I cant do anything about it sooooo I improvise and only play with a team. Oh and if you think that knowing where teams going to spawn and being able to set up so that you can make them spawn where you want isn't skill, you sir have no chance at being good and im going to guess all you do is run around aimlessly for objective instead of making a smart push or helping your teammates to play obj when its the right time. Thankyou

Bet you can't win with out spawn exploitation. And no I don't I could take my time while being spawn camped and still die at spawn I mean who has the reflexes and internet good enough to kill someone in 0.01 seconds cause that's how fast you die at spawn when being spawn killed. I don't care if I am good player this game is suppose to be an arcade game I shouldn't have to the best player in the world to have fun. Nice rusher insult shows how mature you are. You are a typical spawn exploit the minute you detect a threat to your easy kills you attack them with a rusher insult just so typical. What's the matter can't win without knowing where the enemy is at? Can't win without making the other team trapped in their spawn? Why don't you try being aware of your surroundings for once instead spawn killing and thinking you are so good. I bet if the spawns couldn't be exploited you would go 0 and 90 every time. I mean it's like you arguing with a hacker telling him that his hacks are cheap and cheating and then turns around and says you some garbage rusher who doesn't know how to play then he says if you get good you can kill him while he's hacking. Spawn exploitation is no different then hacking or boosting and no I don't rush like an idiot I just wanna be able to get out of my spawn with out being spawn killed.

I don't see too much of an issue of a spawn trap which can be got out of but if players are ADSing waiting for a player to spawn, like Birdman on YT, then that's a big issue for me. While I've never been put in that situation it is wrong because there was no fair engagement. You may as well be killed by a hacker using invisibility mode. A way round it is to grant killed players invisibility for 5 seconds to seek a safe area if they need it but they cannot use their gun etc whilst being invisible, which I believe is how spawns operate in CS: GO.

I only say spawn trap cause there are some spawn traps that can't be gotten out of. I do agree with you I think since there is no hope of the spawns getting better they should go old school and put spawn protection back in.

At least hijacked had some action. I think I ran around for what had felt like 5 minutes looking for someone only to be killed by a camper in a dark corner. if you play sovereign against a bunch of campers it is by far the worst map I played. Of course this just my opinion.

Im sorry but I cant agree hijacked and sovereign are bad maps. They are by far the easiest to spawn kill and know where enemies are going to be... If you all would spend time learning the maps instead of complaining to change them you might actually be able to play on them.

What bothers me about Sovereign is the Sabotage care package. Unless someone is in the tunnel underneath, it won't get a kill, but the worst part is the gas cloud has just as much effect on your team as the enemy. Unless you're running with thermal, of course. If anyone in my party gets it now, we just don't call it in.

Call me crazy but I don't mind either Sovereign or Flooded - of course, I play Hardcore Domination almost exclusively. One map that has quickly become one of my least liked is Siege......takes nearly the entire match just to find people and their camping spots.