We are about 3 to 10 years away from having effective medical Eugenics via Embryo selection/screening. China, and many Asian countries are already investing big in the technology and recently, scientists have warned that the west will fall behind Asia if we dont start breaking the stigma against Eugenics. What does pol think of the near term possibility of Eugenics?

The end result is dumber people with less human characteristics as opposed to the animalistic. This includes the jews themselves, even though they to sterilize Ethiopian jewish women in Israel. Jews abort themselves and a Rothschild is marrying a nigger.

They learned that they have to drink the poison they want us to drink. Scorpion and the frog, nothing new under the sun.

Eugenics is already happening its just not what the kikes want, hence their need to import millions of shitskins.

Liberals aren’t breeding anymore and temperament and predilections to certain political positions are very much inheritable, the 2010 US survey and Europoll 2011 both found that 93%+ of individuals had the same political and religious affiliation as their parents once they were older than 25. Indicating some form of heritable trait is being passed on.

You can see it in the birthrates by political affiliation and race within in the USA. White Democrats: 0.9, Jews: 0.8, blacks: 1.4, and spics: 1.6. White republicans are between 2.6 and 2.9 depending on whose numbers you use, with the highest being recorded in the General Social Survey which also has the largest sample set.

If the 2014 white conservative birthrates and those of the other demographic groups remained constant without additional input via immigration by 2050 only 20% of individuals in the US will be descended from habitual Democrat voters or self described liberals and only 7% will be black.

That is what the demoshits have feared for so long, that is why they want to import shitskins so desperately.

they don't have a lot to work with. consider they have 600 - 700 million ant men in china and the largest penis size they can find is 6.5 inches. for reference, that's the average in a tiny country like hungary.

A healthy society already has all the necessary eugenic mechanisms built into it that could be required to prune the gene pool at a natural rate. This is merely using technology, once again, to cover up a hole in our social organization that will continue to go ignored if these measures are adopted.

What's more, high IQ is rare because, believe it or not, it's NOT always the best for survival. There is always a cost-benefit analysis that needs to be done in cases like this, and high IQ individuals tend to have a number of different problems than low IQ individuals, who have different problems from average IQ individuals, who have different problems than slightly above average IQ individuals. Who knows what effects shifting the average IQ up by a standard deviation could have socially? The only example we have are Ashkenazi Jews, and their social outlook and organization is VERY dangerous, short-sighted and neurotic, and they managed to achieve this result gradually over a long period of time and adjust. It's a very dangerous thing to play with all at once.

Such approaches merely discourage actual natural solutions and invite potential disaster in exchange for short term gains.

Eugenics and gene manipulation is fantstic in theory, except for two things:

1. We still don't really know enough not to fuck ourselves up by accident, and

2. We do know enough that the Jews who will control the process can breed the white out of us much more efficiently than at present, when they're limited to what cuck porn and overseas rapists can accomplish.

There's your answer – It will be great after we gas the kikes. Just like everything else.

Communists don't want intelligence, they want submission. Intelligent slaves revolt eventually, if only because they're smart enough to go insane under their domination. Communists all fantasize about ruling a literal planet of the apes, where they're finally not inadequate faggots by comparison. Witness Shorty McTinydick Stalin's brilliant plan to literally crossbreed Russians with gorillas to make super soldiers. It's the totalitarians' dream.

Just as an aside, I would like to mention that like designer shoes, designer jeans, and designer anything, the only people who are going to be interested in designer children are women. Please do keep this in mind when discussing eugenics, because women are not apt to pick genes based on any criteria other than what is fashionable in society, and "Awww, look at the cute baaaabbbyyyyy!"

>All of the genetic diseases could be weeded out in a few generations, and no one suffers or anything.

Bullshit. They can only weed out faulty genes if they know what genes cause the faults in the first place. Does one screen out a gene that increases a risk of breast cancer despite the fact that the gene could also cause a favorable trait? Also, such an activity with stagnate human evolution because a perceived "faulty" gene will be removed slowly essentially leading to future generations being nothing more than genetic clones with different.parents.

>Big wins all around.

The world need autists (some of which are /pol/) to get obsessive about shit enough to be top-tier diggers. Would /pol/ without autists be as effective?

>of course, that is only if the entire industry is under the control of the Volk and is working for the interests of the Volk. jewish tricks must be kept 100% away from White eugenics

This will not happen due to investment requirements for any thorough genetic analysis. Jews also want to fund this research so they van create their flawless jewish messiah. Their super jew as was foretold by their prophets. This is why you are seeing so many genetic failures living in israel.

>You’re going to need to upgrade to a Diamond Pro+ membership, and take our mandatory 6 month diversity courses at our San Francisco facility if you want to unlock our “lighter” skin features when selecting your future child.

It could help bleach the world since women in general overwhelming want White mens sperm to breed European, Americaan,Asian , African and Latin clinics all have their highest request for the lightest skin, non-black hair, light eyes.

Hell even the niggers acknowledge that coon women want to be bred by White men ,White men get away with way more then they let coon men like jumping in to fights for them and letting it go when a White man calls them a bitch. Then the repeated answer is always " black women want dem pretty lightskin babies with good hair das why dem white boys always get away with it".

why do you black pill shills always use the same images? You think that Europe and America is going to keep bringing in that many people without some sort of breakdown or revolution? We are already seeing it happen in Europe.

I can't give more details than this, but embryo screening is already a thing in China and certain city states. Its mostly for old women doing IVF avoiding tards but there have been a number of jews doing it to avoid Tay-Sachs and the like.

This is the two-edged problem with all new technology. Anything created that can be used for good, the kikes will twist to use it against whites. It's easy to guess what they're going to do.

They're going to take the same basic idea they laid out in (((psychology))), categorizing racial realism, preference for one's race, anything considered "white-supremecist," as unhealthy. The analog to this is to simultaneously acknowledge white IQ and then use that justification to (((level the playing field))) - the same with height and immune systems. Then, categorize any distinct white facial patterns that are distinctive to whites as banned and so any embryos will be selected for anything vaguely non-white, basically defects.

>Hell even the niggers acknowledge that coon women want to be bred by White men.

Can speak from experience, black women fear black men even as they cry foul every time a brutha gets caught. But the part they miss is that black women are the cause of this. They're terrible mothers. Again, I speak from first hand experience.

The way I see it, Asia will end up surpassing white countries in all areas while white countries degrade into ramshackle, core-crashed, second-world countries. It seems like we'll just turn into India or Brazil, eventually. Nonwhites are the water we can't bail out of our ships, ensuring we sink to the murky depths to join the rotted hulls of the old ships that came before. It's nightmare fuel. And you're kidding yourself if you think Asians are going to have a sudden and diffusive burst of empathy for us and throw us a ladder and rope. Asians just don't think like that. We live in the real world and in the real world, it's sink or swim; you either dominate or get dominated. The weak get swallowed whole by the gaping jaws of the powerful. When you look around and see the degeneration swallowing the glory of your progenitors without relent, remind yourself why things are bad. When you become a minority in your own nation in the next ten years, remember who is to blame. There is only one solution: genocide.

In essence, eugenics is the selecting of good and desirable traits. Dysgenics is the opposite. So, when women make a mate choice, they make either a eugenic choice or a dysgenic choice. From what we've been able to learn since feminism started, women tend to make sub-optimal sexual choices. Generally, sexually, they prefer muscle and brawn over knowledge and brain. For long-term, reproductive relationships, they opt for the latter but because of their preferences and emotionally-oriented thinking, that isn't always the case. If we implemented arranged marriage again, we'd see a boost in IQ and physical health within a few generations.

I'll add, it's the "latter" because the latter generally has more money and resources. It isn't their sexual preference though, which is why they tend to cheat with younger, hotter guys who have big muscles and smaller bank accounts and less impressive clothes.

Where it gets into the weeds is what the 'good' is and who it is for. Women are always practicing eugenics (selecting a mate with desirable qualities) in their own minds. It's just not always good for the maintenance of a society at large.

So, eugenics and dysgenics can occur at both the micro level (individual) and the macro level (group). Macro level is what controls the direction a group travels in. Right now, Jews are driving us into a brick wall at two hundred miles per hours.

Fuck off, you retard. Essentially, eugenics is the selecting for good traits. It can't be any other way. How else is it supposed to make people better, shithead? Also, your choice of the term "LARPer" is non-sequitur. Nothing I've written in this thread qualifies me as a LARPer. You can't even into basic ideas.

Also in the regard that, like women, they don't feel any real emotions, just facsimiles of them. They only feel animal urges like eating and fucking and can only imitate emotional responses as a survival mechanism.

>Eugenics is people dictating what they feel is good breeding to other people.

There are objectively good traits, like strength and intelligence. And objectively bad ones, like weakness and stupidity. Eugenics is about selecting the good ones. It isn't about what people "feel".

>Its importantly not natural selection its not Darwinian at all. Hence why its fucking retarded and advocated by stupid people.

Qualifying your stupidity here. All selection is natural selection because it takes place in nature. Man scientifically selecting traits he wants is just a continuation of the processes that lead to man in the first place. His processes and tools are merely advanced natural creations that appear unnatural compared to the rest of the less advanced natural world.

If I start selecting for blonde hair only because I think blonde hair is good and I prevent all non-blondes from reproducing, that is still natural section because I am a part of nature selecting for things I want. Go back to school, you utterly uneducated moron.

>Natural selection is the differential survival and reproduction of individuals due to differences in phenotype. It is a key mechanism of evolution, the change in the heritable traits characteristic of a population over generations. Charles Darwin popularised the term "natural selection", contrasting it with artificial selection, which is intentional, whereas natural selection is not.

You have nothing but name calling and logical fallacies. The reason Darwin differentiated was because his thinking was influenced partly by Christianity. As far as logic is concerned, if man is merely a product of evolution and nothing more, if he selects for things he wants, that is still natural selection and it is natural selection by definition. Nothing I have said is wrong.

>Leftists often hysterically refer to any theoretical genetic engineering as eugenics when its competely false

So expanding on our earlier example of an individual having a child with edited genes, what if his government encouraged and sponsored parents to edit those traits? What if the government paid for the treatment? What if the government mounted a propaganda campaign to this effect? Ostensibly the individual still has choice in the matter. Is that not eugenics, too? At what point does it become 'eugenics' to you?

All you have for your Argument is an appeal to a an outdated and arbitrary distinction. If man is a product of nature, he can select for traits he wants, and therefore it is natural selection. It doesn't matter that man is intelligent and can use advanced tools in the process.

Just because you can't wrap your head around my point, that doesn't make it wrong. I understand what natural selection is. I also understand, unlike you, that anything natural involved in the natural selection process is part of it. Man selecting for what he wants is part of it. Man selecting for face tentacles with scientific instruments is part of it.

The main reason for the distinction between artifical and natural is because of Christianity, a religion that believes man to be above nature. It influences our philosophies to this day. If you believe in materialism and evolution, man can only be a natural thing and therefore anything man creates is also natural.

Obviously, the good has a subjective quality. However I think the issue is more nuanced, which is mostly why I took those contrarian positions to begin with. "Eugenics" as a formalized system of government sponsored breeding is a bad idea, and on that we agree. But soft social controls do exist naturally in a functioning society that do influence what individuals regard as good and bad traits and which do influence their selection of mates. Social systems exist which, not to long ago, provided pro-civilizational family structures and value systems by countering the natural inclinations of women in mate selection.

Natural selection has no intelligence behind it. There is no emotion, malice, hate, benevolence or error. There isn't even any selecting that is a misnomer. Its one of the purest principles in the universe. Competely natural. Natural is referring how it happens.

If man is a part of nature only, he is just a chemical, determined process. He can't have free will or true consciousness. His choices, being a chemical, determined process, are merely the cause of random, material events. They are part of nature and the universe. Man selecting is only nature selecting.

You are entirely correct, but the fact remains that we would be unwise to think nothing bad could possibly come of selecting for higher IQ without taking other social factors into consideration. Men towards the right tail of the distribution also suffer from mental disorders at a higher frequency, hence the memes about philosophers that commit suicide and melancholic artists.

>I read something about chinks using European genes in their eugenic labs to curb the inbreeding due to their overpopulation

>to curb the inbreeding

>due to their overpopulation

I don't think you understand what inbreeding is. But on another note the Chinks have been looking into genes that affect intelligence from all over the world, except for sub-Saharan Africa because there is nothing of value genetic wise to be found there.

No, it's one long verbal bullshit test, like political debates. Verbal IQ helps navigating and inventing bullshit, but it's not essential. How else do you explain Niggers having so much success? But this is not to say that women don't like 'smart' men. They rightly believe such men are more susceptible to specious arguments, i.e. jewry like feminism and 'equal' rights. Note that scientists, engineers and autists don't meet this feminine definition of being 'smart'.

But the cost? By the time they realize they have created a race of smarter, healthier, better people it will be too late. Smarter people won't put up with the bullshit. Smarter people will purge the bullshit and apply Eugenics to fix anything they thing is a problem.

No, the cost won't be creating smarter and healthier better people lol. What powerful wealthy government on Earth wants their citizens to be smarter and healthier? It will be used against us, they will claim that the screening is to improve fitness, but really it will be about creating obedient passionless people with no sense of honor or justice.

Give me some evidence for this. Kikes having high IQ makes perfect sense, since they are a small population historically limited to high IQ professions like trade and finance (aka swindling the goyim out of their hard earned proceeds) for almost two millenia, as opposed to the vast majority of human populations which were primarily agricultural. Hence why they also tend to be sickly.

Just because kikes have higher average IQ doesn't mean they are all geniuses, by the way. 110 is still pretty damn stupid.

The smartest are being selected out, this is done culturally and as well as academically. Additionally, we are forced to bring stupid shitskins into our countries which will rape you daughters and ruin you genetics further. The only hope for the human race is East Asians doing a Eugenics program and cleansing the world of the filth. This would cause White people to do the same. Ultimatly, the only solution to go to type I-V

>The way I see it, Asia will end up surpassing white countries in all areas while white countries degrade into ramshackle, core-crashed, second-world countries

IF the economy holds up and we all know within the next 10 years its tanking hard and never coming back. Rural whites are well prepared for this inevitability while the rest of the gib lovin nogs clearly aren't. Although, I'm sure law enforcement will work for free.

One of the basic examples of Darvinistic principles in action is the occurrence of sickle-cell disease in Malaria ridden regions. When everyone dies of Malaria except those weakened by anemia, who do you think will be selected?

good first post. this should be priority number one if you are at all concerned about the well being of the genetic makeup of mankind.

once everyone is white, eugenics will naturally go along smoothly. it will be more casual yet much more effective and reliable than anything that could occur while kikes are still around.

i'd rather have pic related type things than some monsanto tier stuff going on with as many whites as they can get their hands on (if vaccines can be made mandatory, how do you think they will treat eugenics?)

until all nonwhites have been eradicated, eugenics is bad. whites are already the master race, remember? we dont need to have kike doctors doing experiments on our children and likely irreversibly fucking up the deepest level of the foundation of our people, in order to beat china, no matter how good their math scores may be

Please stop perpetuating this meme. Mathematics is a white man's game. China has a massive population, so of course they can find 0.05% who seem REALLY good at math. The bulk of which, was developed by Northern Europeans, especially Germans. Even in Academia, where there is a sample bias, most of those "smart" asians are copying from the identical looking chink beside them.

Everyone knows chinks love to cheat for tests and that they're only sending their best to measure their IQ.

Same deal with Jews, do you think that the organized group of g*d's chosen people that keeps shoving their cousin lawyers into everything wouldn't hand pick the accountants with the largest noses they have available?

Genetics just defines upper and lower bounds. The rest is cultural. As long as the prevailing mentality of unevolved brain is to do nothing and expect the rest of society to carry them as a burden, they will not excel.

The problem is (((businessowners))) would definitely not want to hire the average man when they have 200 IQ superhumans available. Maybe the future won't be as horrible as I believe it will be, but I'm not optimistic.

Intelligence of humans is a factor in natural selection. Natural selection created our complex intellectual capabilities and our capacity to choose; therefore, using that capacity to intentionally create a stronger, smarter, healthier human as the norm is a continuation of natural selection. And it will inevitably happen and prevail, as natural selection cannot be stopped by weak political, emotional, human arguments - genetic engineering will absolutely produce a better human that is more fit in every concievable way, and that human type will become dominant.

I already see my share of egg-donor offspring when I'm out and about. Mothers and fathers with zero nordic genes in them pushing a blond blue-eyed baby in a stroller. I know blond kids often turn dark as adults; this is different. Parents and child have neither similar facial features nor similar coloring.

However what might be good for a child gene-wise will probably be terrible for them in terms of psychology.

so let's program children shaped flesh without consciousness so that our based white pedophiles can rape without guilt

also, we ourselves will not be subject to genetic manipulation, because we are the master race, our genes passed down through generations upon generations over millions of years, until you end up back at single celled organisms, and the billions of years of enviroment that created them. oh

It's a balance, if I'm hiring guys to build houses then my margins are pretty small. Small margins mean I can't afford to pay more, lower-average INT guys will work for less as they have fewer prospects. Too low an INT score and they cost you more money than they make due to lack of diligence and problem solving abilities and are prone to spontaneous quitting after expensive training periods. High INT workers don't have that problem but their higher abilities mean they cost more to employ and might not stick with you even if you give them steady work and good pay as a position on some other field opens up.