“Shri Suta Goswami said that a demon called Tripurasur who was earlier burnt to ashes by Shiva has taken birth again in form of Mahamada (Muhammad) and his deeds are like that of an evil ghost. The ghost was rebuked by Kalidas as “O rascal, you have created an illusion to bewilder the king, I will kill you, you are the lowest…”

Further, the ghost called Mahamada comes in dream of King Bhoja and says,

“O king, your religion is of course known as the best religion among all. Still I am going to establish a terrible and demoniac religion by the order of the Lord . The symptoms of my followers will be that they first of all will cut their genitals, have no shikha, but having beard, be wicked, make noise loudly and eat everything. They should eat animals without performing any rituals. This is my opinion. They will perform purificatory act with the musala or a pestle as you purify your things with kusha. Therefore, they will be known as musalman, the corrupters of religion. Thus the demoniac religion will be founded by me.”

It is amply clear that contrary to Dr Naik’s claims, Mahamada (Muhammad) is being condemned here as a demon and not as a spiritual person. Far from being a Kalki Avatar, Muhammad is being foretold as a devil harbinger of nuisance!

Having analyzed the verses, let us analyze a few more points regarding Bhavishya Puran:

Bhavishya Puran is not considered an authoritative religious scripture. It is amply clear that the book continued to be written till late 19th century. Because it also contains stories of Jesus Christ, Akbar, Sawai Jai Singh, Alha Udal, Tulsidas, Surdas, Guru Nanak, Shahjahan, Aurangzeb, Shivaji and even Queen Victoria and her Parliament. Bulk of the material seems to be written during foreign rule. Thus, Bhavishya Puran does not even come in category of evidence, when it comes to Hindu religion. It is at best a frivolous non-serious text.

If one takes Bhavishya Puran seriously, it implies that he believes that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was a devil and reincarnation of demon called Tripurasur. This is a great insult to founder of Islam. To best of our knowledge, if one insults the Prophet in guise of a Muslim preacher promoting Islam, Shariah laws recommend death sentence for such a person.

Also, if Dr Naik has so much trust on Bhavishya Puran and considers the book so prophetic, why does he not admit other advices of the book – the fastings on specific days and their benefits, worship of different idols, avoidance of meat, celibacy, shraadh, prohibition of marriage among close relatives, agnihotra, holy places, cow protection etc. And accordingly, he should refuse to believe in those verses of Quran which are against the precepts of Bhavishya Puran.

In the next part of the series, we shall critically examine the claim of Prophet Muhammad in Vedas.

Shri Suta Gosvami said: In the dynasty of king Shalivahana, there were ten kings who went to the heavenly planets after ruling for over 500 years. Then gradually the morality declined on the earth. At that time Bhojaraja was the tenth of the kings on the earth. When he saw that the moral law of conduct was declining he went to conquer all the directions of his country with ten-thousand soldiers commanded by Kalidasa. He crossed the river Sindhu and conquered over the gandharas, mlecchas, shakas, kasmiris, naravas and sathas. He punished them and collected a large ammount of wealth. Then the king went along with Mahamada (Muhammad), the preceptor of mleccha-dharma, and his followers to the great god, Lord Shiva, situated in the desert. He bathed Lord Shiva with Ganges water and worshipped him in his mind with pancagavya (milk, ghee, yoghurt, cow dung, and cow urine) and sandalwood paste, etc. After he offered some prayers and pleased him.

Suta Goswami said: After hearing the king’s prayers, Lord Shiva said: O king Bhojaraja, you should go to the place called Mahakakshvara, that land is called Vahika and now is being contaminated by the mlecchas. In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma. There was a mystic demon named Tripura(Tripurasura), whom I have already burnt to ashes, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada(Muhammad) and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the evil ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified. Hearing this the king came back to his country and Mahamada(Muhammad) came with them to the bank of the river Sindhu. He was expert in expanding illusion, so he said to the king very pleasingly: O great king, your god has become my servant. Just see, as he eats my remnants, so I will show you. The king became surprised when he saw this just before them. Then in anger Kalidasa rebuked Mahamada(Muhammad) “O rascal, you have created an illusion to bewilder the king, I will kill you, you are the lowest…”

That city is known as their site of pilgrimage, a place which was Madina or free from intoxication. Having a form of a ghost (Bhuta), the expert illusionist Mahamada(Muhammad) appeared at night in front of king Bhojaraja and said: O king, your religion is of course known as the best religion among all. Still I am going to establish a terrible and demoniac religion by the order of the Lord . The symptoms of my followers will be that they first of all will cut their genitals, have no shikha, but having beard, be wicked, make noise loudly and eat everything. They should eat animals without performing any rituals. This is my opinion. They will perform purificatory act with the musala or a pestle as you purify your things with kusha. Therefore, they will be known as musalman, the corrupters of religion. Thus the demoniac religion will be founded by me. After having heard all this the king came back to his palace and that ghost(Muhammad) went back to his place.

The intelligent king, Bhojaraj established the language of Sanskrit in three varnas – the brahmanas, kshatriyas and vaisyas – and for the shudras he established prakrita-bhasha, the ordinary language spoken by common men. After ruling his kingdom for 50 years, he went to the heavenly planet. The moral laws established by him were honored even by the demigods. The arya-varta, the pious land is situated between Vindhyacala and Himacala or the mountains known as Vindhya and Himalaya. The Aryans reside there, but varna-sankaras reside on the lower part of Vindhya. The musalman people were kept on the other side of the river Sindhu.

On the island of Barbara, Tusha and many others also the followers of Isamsiha were also situated as they were managed by a king or demigods.

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Lord Shiva said: O king Bhojaraja, you should go to the place called Mahakakshvara, that land is called Vahika and now is being contaminated by the mlecchas. In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma. There was a mystic demon named Tripura(Tripurasur), whom I have already burnt to ashes, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada(Muhammad) and his deeds are like that of a ghost.

According to Bhavishya Purana Muhammad was the rebirth of Tripurasura the Demon.

Tripurasur was the son of Sage Gritsamad. One day the sage sneezed and from this was created a young boy who the Sage brought up as his own son. The sage taught the boy the Ganana Twam, Ganesh Mantra. Equipped with this mantra the boy meditated intensely on Lord Ganesh who ultimately blessed him. He was given three pura-s of gold silver and iron. Since he was the owner of these three pura-s he was given the name Tripur. Ganesh also bestowed on Tripur to be the most powerful, who none but Lord Shiva himself could destroy and after being destroyed by Lord Shiva he would attain mukti-salvation.

This boon made Tripur proud and he brought havoc in the entire world. He conquered the Nether world and then proceeded to takeover Heaven. He defeated Indra the king of heaven. His aggression made Lord Brahma hide in a lotus and Lord Vishnu in the Shirsagar. He soon also took over Lord Shiva’s Kailash Parvat and thus became the King of all the three worlds. The gods wondered on how to vanquish Tripurasur. Lord Narada told them that, since he had been granted a boon by Lord Ganesh himself it would be very difficult to vanquish him. He advised them to meditate on Lord Ganesh. Pleased Lord Ganesh decided to help the Gods.

Disguised as brahmin he visited Tripurasur and told him that he was a very enlightened Brahmin and could make for him three flying planes. Riding these he woud be able to go anywhere he wished within minutes. The planes could only be destroyed by Shiva.In return Lord Ganesh asked him to get him the statue of Chintamani which was at the Kailash Mountain. Lord Shiva refused to give the statue to Tripurasur’s messenger. The angry Tripurasur himself went to get the statue. A fierce battle started between him and Lord Shiva. He destroyed everything that belonged to the Lord Shiva who too retired to the Girikandar.

Lord Shiva too realized that he was unable to destroy Tripurasur because he had not paid his respects to Lord Ganesh. He recited the Shadaakshar Mantra to invoke Ganesh. On doing so from his mouth emerged Gajanan to grant Shiva a boon. Shiva continued his invocation of Ganesh who ultimately directed him on how Tripurasur could be killed. Lord Shiva was asked to recite the Sahastranam and then direct an arrow at the three pura-s of Tripurasur.

Lord Shiva followed these instructions and finally vanquished Tripurasur.

The place where Lord Shiva invoked Lord Ganesh he also created a temple for him. The town surrounding this temple was called Manipur. The village Ranjangaon is considered to be the place where Lord Shiva himself sought the blessings of Ganesh and ultimately destroyed Tripurasur.

He who eats cow’s meat, and speaks a lot against shastras and he, who is also devoid of all forms of spiritual practice, is called a mlechha.

3 A sinner, A wicked person, A savage or barbarian race

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Paisachya (meaning)

(from Sanskrit dictionary)

Paisachya

Demonical, Infernal

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Tripurasura

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Asura (meaning)

(from Sanskrit dictionary)

Asura असुर

1 An evil spirit,demon

2 A general name for the enemies of Gods,

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In the next part of the series, we shall critically examine the claim of Prophet Muhammad in Vedas. Again we would find that Zakir Naik is insulting both Prophet and Vedas to serve his dubious and shameful agenda.

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People who don’t believe in Purans also stood up now when it comes the matter of defaming Islam, it can be clealry said that translation was done only to defame. most of the scholars was of the opinion of textual changes has been done in bhavishya puran, which you have also published in ur website.

——“ettismantere maleccha acharya saminvatah”

– In the mean time there came a maleccha acharya.

maleccha is not always used in bad sense. That is evident from other parts of bhavishya purana Pratisarga Parva, Chaturyuga Khanda Dvitiyadhyayah, 19th Chapter, Texts 17 to 32 where macleccha dharma is said to be rightoeus and truth. So the intepretation of Zakir naik as foriegner seems to be correct. Also the the word acharya was used for a great teacher in the ancient times.

“mahamad iti khayatah sihshaysakhasaminvatah”

– Mahamad is he famous(khayatah) as , came along with disciples and companions (shishya and sakha)

“nripasharav mahadevanam marusthala nivasinam”

now from here confusion starts. Majority of the translation give it as the raja bhoja worshipped Shiva dwelling in desert. This might be due to the fact that mahadev in traditional sense is used for Shiva. However if just go by exact word to word translation it should be

– O Lord, mahadev dwelling in the desert.

Some hindu scholars say the king said this to Shiva, but i doubt this is correct. They also translate above lines as – Then the king went along with Mahamada (Muhammad), the preceptor of mleccha-dharma, and his followers to the great god, Lord Shiva, situated in the desert. But this not correct, easily visible, if some one can understand sankrit. Also the whole story becomes incoherent if we take that translation. Why the king should go “along” with mahamad to Shiva in desert ?! ( also shiva resides in kailash paravat we all know according to traditional hindu traditions, which is cold with snow exactly opp to desert !!!! )——-

one can clearly see the difference in different opinions by different scholars .

yes mohammad is a demonic force because he said don’t buried your daughters alive when they born dont create a caste just like hindus and other non sacred people has done like burhaman is more superior than bheel or shuder don’t worship the stupid figures which you created by yourself dont follow the the rules of killing wives after their husband died like Hindus were following by the concept of satti if all of such teachings are considered to be evil then the author is might saying that the person who loves the humanity and worship one god is a basically a evil person

and the people who disgrace humanity in so many several ways like sacrificing humans for their gods and worship more than one god is a pattern of good and gentle human beings than all the good and gentle human beings like Hindus is following the pattern of devil coz all of such violence were desired by the devil not god

still Mohammad teachings are bad and the teaching of Hinduism about all such violence are good carry on guys you people are the most stupid creature ever born on this planet

Dear Friend, Good and evil people are every where in the world irrespective of their religion, yes in hindu religion there were people who followed the rules of demon they called as rakashas and shurdra is not a cast it was the structure and society who used to do the work which came under SERVICES and as you said we worship each and every thing and stupid figures then would like to tell you that we see GOD in every thing which is created and exist in this world irrespective of their form.

We see GOD in everything whether it is stone or trees we see GOD existence in nature in everything that’s what our religion teaches us it does nt teach us to kill others without any reason in the name of GOD or if others don’t follow your religion that means you have to be killed. We respect each and every one and their religion as well that’s why in India from ancient time we did not stop anyone to follow any religion and still the legacy continues in India that’s why our country called secular

and one more thing about india and our purans and granths that is true, know what about ramayana it s authenticity if you could see the adams bridge or RAM SETU which has been proved the ultimate miracle Bridge made thousands of years back beyond science calculations and even our modern science could not understand the secret of floating stones of thousand kgs. That is our religion and our science and our knowledge which has still given us a stand between other religions.

With due respect Mr. Agniveer, Will you please write regarding whether the concept of incarnation is true or whether the concept of Prophet is true w.r.t Vedas and without concerning with other religion?

As far as incarnation theory is concerned, I would say that you don’t have any logical explanation of discarding it. It has been discussed at length in Vedic scriptures. I won’t tell you to follow them but I would rather say that you should judge them. Now coming to your second inquiry about prophet,,,,, what did you mean? Are you implying to prophet Mohammad? What concept are you talking about? Is that very concept he introduced? Please post your question at length.

Explaining and arguing with any muslim is utterly hopelss since they have been so brainwashed. Even a 3 year oild girl in islamic school is taught that Christians are monkeys, jews are pigs and hindus are kafirs. This does not change throughout their life. Whatever you say and try to explain Islam has problem, Muslims will never accept that and they will continue supporting terrorism and their horrible shariat laws. Only Bhagvan vishnu can come and establish the sanatana dharma again…its no job of a human.

WE NEED TRUE PATRIOTS LIKE YOU. REMEMBER WHEN EVIL AURANGZEB KILLED INNOCENT HINDUS, THEN YOUR SWORD SPOKE WITH HIM. NOW, THE HISTORY NEEDS TO BE REPEATED. WE CAN NOT WAIT FOR LORD VISHNU TO COME AND DO THE JUSTICE. IT IS OUR JOB. WE MUST UNITE AND DESTROY AS MANY EVIL MUSLIMS AS WE CAN.

USA AND ISRAEL ARE BOMBING MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE AND SO IS FEW WESTERN NATIONS DOING. UNFORTUNATELY, INDIA IS SLEEPING. HENCE WE ARE IN TROUBLE.

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After some thought thinking about all the has happened in our past in hinduism, judism, christianity and islamic it seems to me that the contents of all the books are very much the same infact none of them actually teach the reader to be evil but on to defend one self against people that cause harm to people. In hinduism the demons own as Raja Hiranyakashayap (killed by Shri Nirshima), Raja Kansa (killed by Shri Krishna) and King Ravana (killed by Shri Ram) where the incarnations of the same soul which originally is told to us was the person who was the door man to Vishnulok and he was given a shraap (curse) to die by the hands of vishnu on earth, so if we can accept this fact that thee soul of the three great powerful demons who had meditated to get great boons from gods was a soul of greatness then why cant the soul of tripurasur also be a soul of greatness designed to guide to unguided people of islam. The born of tripurasur was said to be from a squeeze from a great great sage. Coming back to the subject of the bhavishya puran my thoughts on the matter is that the soul of tripurasur (aka mohammed so said by the puran) must of been a soul of a high caste as not all souls can acheive what this soul has achieved as in both incarnations the form has had direct contact with the all might lord whom ever it maybe, tripurasur – lord ganesh who granted him the boon but the soul decided to misuse it and was destined for destruction so the story is for told and in the other form as Mohammed – the soul yet again has done something that no ordinary man in the islam religion has yet done and that has contacted the supreme and was said to be the only translator for the islamic people who at the time worshiped alot of deites and he showed the to worship one and also showed them how to better themself without selfish desires. I dont see this a evil, he protected the people that wanted to learn (ilm) through the use of a sword (jihad) but it was to defend oneself – this has been said to be okay to do in all religions so why…

I agree with you. Let’s work off a strategy. We should do something to fight with all unnatural deaths. For road traffic accidents, the best way is to find out root cause and create awareness wherever possible. So, try to get some details and accordingly awareness can be created. If it is possible for someone to make the law stringent accordingly, that would help. Regarding murders also, the root cause is to be analyzed – that will take very long time. Also, terrorism problem is to be taken care of. Let’s attack them one by one. Slowly but gradually Let’s make the world a better place to live in. If you know any website or organization which takes care of Road Safety and other unnatural death cases, please spread the word.

What we are doing is just a drop in the ocean but that ocean would be incomplete without that drop. – Mother Teresa

atoze you are living in which world 21st or 7th century even before your allah and muhammad was bornt ,people were highly developed and advanced, Greeks,Persians,Indians,Chinese,Egyptians were very intelligent and scientific, if life has been changed it is due to human’s own thought and hard working and self confidence.

1>>> Terrorism increased to 40% from 5% 2>>> Man trying to kill another man for apparently no reason 3>>> Atom Bomb manufacturing became publicly available 4>>> Pollution increased to 67% compared to 13% before Mohammed 5>>> Frequent attack of natural catastrophe 6>>> Obesity and other natural diseases being widespread 7>>> Homosexuality and AIDS prevalent in the world 8>>> Difference between man & death reduced to half 9>>> Human beings living on fossils

Atoze continue blaiming on jews and denied the truth of apostates ,leaving islam is not that accepting other religion ,,many ex-muslims want to live a free minded without any restrictions and fear, they always hide their apostasy due to the fear of your pseudo peaceful religion Islam

Just searching on Google – how many websites are against Islam. Surprisingly – the number exceeds 39. This is the proof that Mohammed made everyone his enemies & nothing more than that. Christians / Jews / Hindus / Atheist / Ex – Muslims they all expose lies of Islam. This proves that Mohammed made enemies wherever he went. (Anti Hindu, Anti Christ websites are all there but run by Muslims only just to defend their faith. This exposes Islam – if they are indeed religion by Allah, such things aren’t needed.) Now, fact is that No Muslim ever dared to challenge them bcoz he knows they will refute all comments. Just because Hindus don’t take them seriously: Muslims are here. If Muslims really have guts, they should have refuted those websites too. The fact is that they cannot. They tried to refute one and all their lies were blatantly exposed. Refuters (whomsoever that might be) only knew the name of the concept and NOT what it actually means. Many Muslims liked those so called refutations WITHOUT verifying the truth. This proves how idiot Muslims are. You can see that great website which corrected all refutations. Some genius master mind created it. Must see – all idiotic claims are debunked there. If you go to homepage, you will find actual list of mistakes.

Now, all such websites are banned in Islam nations because so called Mohammedan LACKS intellectual debate. They only know how to convince using multiple swords. Majority of Mohammedans say – Islam is religion of peace, if you disagree, you shall be killed. Agniveer originated to thwart all such idiot intentions. Muslims are afraid of that. Now, these terrorists (including Atoze, Slim Shaikh, ZN etc…) insult Hinduism. There is an excellent proverb which says – if owl cannot see when sun rises then he blames the sun for it. Applies to a terrorist Mohammedan very well. HAHAHA

god is great you have missed some points that ,some hindu websites have praised these islam in many moderate way but not a single islamic website has said a good thing on hinduism,these websites only claims islam is best and other are fake, only hide their real face and steals from other religions.

Prithvi jee, Namaskaar ! I don’t think there is any Hindu website other than Agniveer / Satyagni which criticizes Islam. But, right — Islam should be perceived a religion of peace & not a religion of terrorism. Hindus know that and hence Agniveer even has articles saying what can Islam teach us. Must read — In one of the videos uploaded by Atoze only; it says Islam is hijacked by some idiot. Even Agniveer agrees that Islam is hijacked by Mullahs. So, Atoze is right but she is using her knowledge to attack Hinduism — if she could have used her skills to prevent her Islam from such hijacks & eliminate terrorism, world would have been a better place to live in. Isn’t it ? Leave it, what is the point in discussing that?

Dear Brother, I have a little disagreement with you. I do not believe that Islam is a religion of peace. A religion that does not acknowledge any other religion is posing itself as a threat to the rest of the Humanity by this very belief only. Islam wants to eliminate all other religions in the world, and they are doing everything to achieve their goal. They are using both physical force and the degradation of other religions to achieve their goal. A religion with this kind of philosophy is a threat to the whole Humanity.

@Mohammed Allah is a cruel entity because he punishes the souls eternally just for not worshiping him. Allah is not merciful. Allah is saitan. Can anybody refute me? If anybody refute my claim I will accept Islam within no time.

@Atonz You have been defending Islam on this website from many days. But I am interest to know Why do you believe Islam is best religion. Please write in points briefly. How Islam is different from Vedic religion. & dont write any bogus of Purans etc. on this Vedic website.

@Truth Seeker says: January 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm I don’t think Islam needs to be defended by me. Allah is there to defend his Islam. Allah has said that he will cut off a person who hates his beloved Prophet Muhammad ( may Allah send His blessing on him ). People have double standards in religion, on one hand they say that Islam needs to be renewed, on the other hand they want to retain old religions and don’t want any new religion. A University can at any time change its syllabus and introduce a new one. No one will object. The new syllabus may have parts of old curriculum. There is no opposition. However, If God gives a new book, a new criteria, people will not accept it. They want to retain the old ways, old scriptures which they have changed to suit themselves. Because Islam is spreading, the non muslims have started attacking Islam and started finding faults in it resorting to telling lies. Muslims have till now not done that i.e., They have not studied other religions, once they start doing that you will see that they will find hordes of faults other religions. ‘there is a saying aa bail mujhe maar’ By attacking Islam people on this site are doing that only. Muslims will start finding faults in your religion. The false propaganda being done by western society is being advocated on this site. False translations are being given. Asatya boolenge to aitraz to karna he padega. You are asking whats good about Islam ? It is difficult to write all about it here. You can write a treatise on it.

@Atoze Namaste Brother Will you tell If Allah is eternal why not his laws are eternal? What do you understand by religion? Why Allah Wished of his worship? How can a wishful entity blissful? Why Allah could not protect its previous revelations? Why does Allah get annoyed for not worshiping him & send the souls in eternal hell? Why does Allah depend on postman to send his massages like human world? Will Allah create a universe again after destruction of this present universe? Will Allah give up its eternal attribute of being creator by not creating universe after day of resurrection? Why Allah failed to give a universal massage without mentioning name of any place, geography, history etc.? Why this favoritism if all world is creation of Allah?

You have proved that Abrahamic religions copied their concepts from ancient Indian books. Now, Quran was written in 6th century. Indian books were written much before that. Nowhere Quran discusses about Indian revelation. Your books don’t acknowledge the source. In 1900 BCE, your first book Torah was revealed by Allah. Yet it has copied facts from Vedas written way before that. Please read Bhavishya Puran in detail first. Not only Quran but also Bible is copied from it. Proof::: http://nitaaiveda.com/All_Scriptures_By_Acharyas/Puranas/Bhavishya_Purana_-_Bible.htm

You have proved who actually your GOD is… Ancient Indians were such champions that your GOD has to copy its revelations from them. (I am not discriminating GOD but your books tell to do so. Muslims hate Jews & vice versa not knowing the fact that both are created by same creator. Applies true for Christians too. If these 3 are created by same GOD, they should not be hated first of all. It seems that you people assume that there are 4 creators – Muslim creator Allah, Christian creator Lord GOD, Jew creator – Alwhym & 4th is Pagan GOD. If all these 4 are same then we all are created by one. Why you hate a Non Muslim NOW?? Why don’t you realize the basic fact that even Kaffirs are created by the same creator??? Forget of Kaffirs, Allah created Shaitaan.)

Regarding Mohammed – no he isn’t Kalki Avatar. There are at least 100 differences between the 2. Even if he is – how can his story is predicted accurately way before your books were written? That proves that Indian books were works of first prophet (Rishi-s). Your all books fail to acknowledge that. Most important point is: while Vedic origin of the Universe is 22.56324 billion years (well accepted by many scientists) – Bible origin is only 4,450 BCE – you people don’t even know how to copy. Even the science of Quran is copied from Greek mathematicians including Aristotle & Leviticus. Anyways, I am not interested in discussing further what &…

Atoze sister, you only believe in imaginary stories. Good work – leave this website and go to a printing press and write books on fiction. Would be best selling. No one can beat you in terms of plain imagination. One should learn from you – how to convert truth to falsehood. I can refute your each word but such debate (obviously to prove pseudo victory) is characteristic of you Muslim only. Therefore, I leave you on your fate. Muslims tell a lie that Islam is fastest growing religion. HAHAHA – best joke. Anyways, I am not interested in talking to u at all. Find some better work to do rather than converting a Vedic follower. Your all attempts will remain futile. I challenge Allah to convert me. Even Allah failed – forgot of others. Muslim nations suffer from too much earthquake – Allah hates Islam. See you at day of judgement. Good Bye.

Atoze Flying donkey,shooting stars,72 virgins ,wheeping stones ,talking ants ,splitting moon are scientific facts of Islam and how many intellectual scientists have praised these non-sense.Zoroastrians were became muslims by miracles a laughable statement , while none of iranian has claimed this idiotic story rather Iranians admit that their ancestors were forcifully converted and nowadays many Iranians are slowly embrassing their mother religion.There is no proof of this garib nawaz’s miracle, it is the fake propagonda by the muslims to spread lies.Only in India where astronomy,medicine ,mathematics,democracy and civilisation arises first .

@Prithvi Why are u bringing 72 virgins again & again in discussion? Its true fact whoever worships Allah & do Namaj all five times will be awarded virgins by Allah. & If you hate virgin you ought to not marry with a virgin girl. You can choose harlot/call girl as your wife.

first you should think logically and come out from superstition, the way you people are talking as finding errors in other religions but saying your religion is best, this website is to refute the rubbish claims on vedas and Indian religion.

To all my abrahmic brothers and sisters, ask yourself this, can you still follow your faiths if you removed the history from you faith. I mean everything. Better way to put it, can you be a good christian without jesus and reach god. Can you be a good muslim with out mohammed and still reach god. This is very important thing to keep in mind. Because in the Dharmic tradition we remove all the history and historical figures and still reach God. It is the methods and techniques that are important. Not the historical characters of our faith. We can remove Krishna and Rama and still achieve God. That is the power of Dharam.

Continued: Another good example from another Dharmic brother is Buddha. The word Buddha means awakened. And Buddha points out that there were many Buddha before me and will be many Buddhas after me. What I have achieved and experience has been experienced by many many before me and will be experience after me. The difference is, the abrhamic view is exclusive while the Dharmic experience is inclusive when it comes to the experience of major characters of the faith. And this is probably the most important thing that most abrahamic religions do not understand about Dharmic religions. Many followers of the abrhamic view are caught up so much in history centrism and arguments with historical proofs and ect, but forget the ultimate proof is for us to experience the the same thing the person claiming to make extraordinary achievements and experiences is making. If we can’t experience the same thing and that means to receive the so called word of god for ourselves so we can independently check it for ourselves then the so called prophets are bullshit. That is why I go with the Rishi view of the world. At least there is a chance for me to be inspired by God myself and independently check the experience myself and see if the Rishis are telling the truth. And in ancient India that Rishis encouraged that. Even Buddha, who was a great Rishi, encouraged his followers to do the same thing. Experience it for yourself brothers and sisters. That is the only truth that can be.

To all my abrahmic brothers and sisters, ask yourself this, can you still follow your faiths if you removed the history from you faith. I mean everything. Better way to put it, can you be a good christian without jesus and reach god. Can you be a good muslim with out mohammed and still reach god. This is very important thing to keep in mind. Because in the Dharmic tradition we remove all the history and historical figures and still reach God. It is the methods and techniques that are important. Not the historical characters of our faith. We can remove…

With the Rishi concept, which is the Dharmic view of everything is much different. If there is a fantastic claim that a Rishi makes, he or she knows it all comes down to experience. What that Rishi experienced must be re-experienced by others so it maybe proved for every single individual. If a Rishi claims that he or she received a message from a fairy or angel, than he will show all his followers how to reproduce that same experience. This also goes for the Vedas. Depending on which Hindu group you ask, it was produced by at least four different Rishis. Some might say many more. That means the ideas in the Vedas were reproduced by different people who experienced the same thing and it was verifiable. And again it depends on which group of Hindus you ask this too. But many Hindus do believe there is no such thing as the word of god. Only the inspired word of God. For God does not talk to man, but God only inspires man. That is key point to understand. And that is the Dharmic way to look at things.

Another good example from another Dharmic brother is Buddha. The word Buddha means awakened. And Buddha points out that there were many Buddha before me and will be many Buddhas after me. What I have achieved and experience has been experienced by many many before me and will be experience after me. The difference is, the abrhamic view is exclusive while the Dharmic experience is inclusive when it comes to the experience of major characters of the faith. And this is probably the most important thing that most abrahamic religions do not understand about Dharmic religions. Many followers of the abrhamic view are caught up so much in history centrism and arguments with historical proofs and ect, but forget the ultimate proof is for us to experience the the same thing the person claiming to make extraordinary achievements and experiences is making. If we can’t experience the same thing and that means to receive the so called word of god for ourselves so we can independently check it for ourselves then…

“There is no need of regular prophets from time to time which the latest prophet being more correct than the previous prophet.”

I couldn’t have said it better myself. The Dharmic belief perspective of the world is vastly different than the weak and false perspective the abrahamic view. Dharmic view is more universal. Unlike the abrahmic people who believe in prophets while the Dharmic people believe in Rishis. The clear difference is prophets are history centric while Rishis are not. This probably is the hardest thing for abrahmic people to understand. And that is why you have so called scholars, but I call them weirdios and fools from the abrahmic side that mistranslate Sanskrit words because they don’t understand the actual meaning behind the words.

Most people know that prophet is someone who comes that one time a long freekin time ago with a so called message of god and that becomes the word. No else can be that prophet except that particular person. More important, no one else can experience the same thing that so called prophet experience. Good example would be, if a so called prophet made a fantastic claim like, I received the word of god and it will be delivered to me by this fairy/angel for a length of twenty years and I will put it in a book and everyone must believe it because it is the message of god, people must believe in this fairy tail. There is no way for them to check it out for themselves. This so called prophet does not teach other people how to receive this same message through an angel as well. Because it is limited to the prophet. Making the prophet concept a very limited and unverifiable concept.

With the Rishi concept, which is the Dharmic view of everything is much different. If there is a fantastic claim that a Rishi makes, he or she knows it all comes down to experience. What that Rishi experienced must be re-experienced by others so it maybe proved for every single individual. If a Rishi claims that he or she received a message from a fairy or…

Pranam Brother Vedic God is Great. The cause of This Slim Shaikh persisting in quran is that he got lure of endless flow of alcohol, 72 virgins in the heaven. Bro Slim Shaikh, if alcohol and brothel are forbidden in here why allah made those as reward?? Can u answer this simple question? Afterwards, just imagine u died as a m0min and got 72 virgins in heaven. Will that not be a mental sick for your momin children that their father is enjoying 72 houris??! Brother why are u being gulliable? Man is falliable. No problem there. But persisting in falsehood is not right. U shud apply ur freethinking. Dhanyawad

Dog video is another proof Islam is true religion. Kaffirs are worsened than Dogs who do not understand this. You should learn lesson from Dog.

You should be ashamed even dogs proved that they are real momins as they showed signs!!!!!!!!!! But you are not that kind of m0min. You were unable to show any signs (!!!!!!!) 8) . No problem dear. We will meet in judgement day. I shall be sitting in the next seat of Muhammad. I shall take part in intercession……………. See you there……buddy

@Spirit Do not worry you cant meet me in heaven. Only Muslim will go in heaven not kaffirs & you are kaffir or non-believer. If you try to understand all animals & birds recite Allah name. But Kaffirs like you can not listen & understand their languages. Even scientist are stunned cow also recited Allah name on the occasion of Bakra-EID.

Don’t worry Spirit brother, Don’t take Slim Shaikh seriously, it is definitely true that Allah forgot to put brain when he created Slim Shaikh or told Satan to create Slim Shaikh. No other 3rd option can result in this Slim Shaikh. We don’t have to worry at all. Father of Atom Bomb Julius Robert Oppenheimer would be in hell with us since he was a kaffir. He will tell him to make 3 atom bombs. One for False prophet Mohammed, One for false heaven Jannat and third one for false GOD – Allah. After he destroys the 3 as mentioned; we will use architect champions (Ancient India & Greece was full of them & co – incidentally none were Muslims) and tell them to make some good item out of this hell. We believe in our guts & we are genuinely hardworking UNLIKE Mohammedans who are plain thieves. We would make hell a better place and then Muslims like Slim Shaikh and his family will feel jealous and would desire to stay in hell. WOW! Slim Shaikh himself elaborated all the loopholes in his beliefs.

To the Agniveer and his teams some quotes from Muslims on India and its culture Yaqubi (9th century) Muslim historian has written: “The Hindus are superior to all other nations in intelligence and thoughtfulness. They are more exact in astronomy and astrology than any other people.

“The Siddhanta is a good proof of their intellectual powers; by this book the Greeks and Persians have also profited. In medicine their opinion ranks first.” Al-Jahiz 9th century Muslim historian writes: “The Hindus excel in astrology, mathematics, medicine and in various other sciences. They have developed to a perfection arts like sculpture, painting, and architecture. They have collections of poetry, philosophy, literature and science of morals. From India we received the book called Kalilah wa Dimnah. These people have judgment and are brave. They posses the virtues of cleanliness and purity. Contemplation has originated with them.” (source: The Vision of India – By Sisirkumar Mitra p. 226). The medieval Arab scholar Sa’id Ibn Ahmad al-Andalusi (1029-1070) wrote in his Tabaqat al-‘umam, one of the earliest books on history of sciences: “The first nation to have cultivated science is India. … India is known for the wisdom of its people. Over many centuries, all the kings of the past have recognized the ability of the Indians in all the branches of knowledge… The kings of China have stated that the kings of the world are five in number and all the people of the world are their subjects. They mentioned the king of China, the king of India, the king of the Turks, the king of the Persians, and the king of the Romans… They referred to the king of India as the “king of wisdom” because of the Indians’ careful treatment of ulum (sciences) and all the branches of knowledge. … The Indians, known to all nations for many centuries, are the metal (essence) of wisdom, the source of fairness and objectivity. They are people of sublime pensiveness, universal apologues, and useful and rare inventions. … To their…

“Blessed land of Hind, thou art worthy of reverence, for in thee has GOD revealed true knowledge of Himself. What a pure light do these four revealed books afford to our mind’s eyes like the charming and cool lustre of the dawn ! These four GOD revealed upon His prophets (Rishis) in Hind. Those treasuries are the Sama and Yajur which GOD has preached. O my brothers, revere these, for they all tell us the good news of salvation. The next two of these four, the Rig and the Atharva, teach us lessons of universal brotherhood. These two Vedas are the beacons that warn us to turn towards that goal (universal brotherhood).”

Muslim Historian Wassaf Abdulla writes

“India, according to the concurrent opinion of all writers, is the most agreeable abode on earth and the most pleasant quarter of the world. Its dust is purer than air and its air is purer than purity itself.”

Arabic Hassan Al Qifti says

“Among those parts of their sciences which came to us, the numerical calculation….it is the swiftest and most complete method of calculation, the easiest to understand and the simplest to learn; it bears witness to the Indians’ piercing intellect, fine creativity and their superior understanding and inventive genius.”

Famous writer Rele has mentioned

Our present knowledge of the nervous system fits in so accurately with the internal description of the human body given in the Vedas. Then the question arises whether the Vedas are really religious books or books on anatomy of the nervous system and medicine.

4th Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib mentioned about India as:

The land where books were first written and from where wisdom and knowledge sprang is India.”

I don’t believe in attacking India though it is true that Indian rivers are pearls, her mountains rubies, her trees perfumes because India is the only country of complete freedom of thought and belief where Muslims and others were free to practice their faith.

Indian Muslim Aliama Iqbal says:

Ancient civilizations of Greece, Egypt and Rome have all disappeared from this world, but the elements of Indian civilization still continue. Although world-events have been inimical to Hindu for centuries, there is something in Hindu civilization which has withstood these onslaughts.

M J Akbar – A Muslim journalist quoted that

If Hinduism has a defining message, then it is humanism. There is space in its philosophy for everyone, which is one reason why India is a home to every single religion in the world. Anyone who has been persecuted anywhere else has found an undisturbed heaven in India. This remained true even when men distorted the philosophy of Hinduism and introduced the inequities of caste: The attitude of Hinduism to other faiths continued to be liberal. Hinduism is synonymous with humanism. That is its essence and its great liberating quality.

This proves that most of the ancient Arabic scholars respected India & nowadays Muslims insult India – definitely, they are insulting their own forefathers. :-D. True Islam is actually following Sanaatan Dharma & all those who disagree with this insult their ancestors. 😀

you better don’t discuss Indian science. People like you know nothing about science. Achchha yahi hogaa ki apni gandi jabaan se Sanaatan Dharma kaa naam na lo. Sanaatan Dharma is proven true by all scientists. Example – Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan, Fritjof Capra, Erwin Schroedinger, Werner Heisenberg, Elba Wheeler Wilcox, Julius Robert Oppenheimer, Homi Bhabhaa, Dr. C. V. Raman, Nichola Tesla, Arthur Schopenhauer, Jean Syllvian Belly, Francois Voltaire. Regarding you, you are jealous just because your Islam is hated by almost all great minds. (I know that you will refute me but that won’t change the truth.) I believe in GOD but my GOD is of Vedas. NOT quran NOT bible NOT abrahamic because they fight with each other. GOD is divided by you Abrahamics only who say that: Jews and Christians GODs are idiots (Muslim say that) – that’s why Christian churches were torn by Muslims only. Christians including Nazis & Muslims are responsible for Israel holocaust. When Mohammed Ghauri came to India, he destroyed Indian universities like Takshashila & burnt its books – YOU MUSLIMS ARE THREAT UPON HUMANITY. When Aluddin Khilji came, many woman burnt themselves bcoz they did not wanted to goto his cruel hands. This was so called SATI pratha. The fact is YOU MUSLIMS ARE BIGGEST CORRUPTORS OF RELIGION. GOD was insulted by Abrahamics – Bible called him jealous — Read 2nd commandment. You called him Jinn. You say that this website spreads hatred about Islam – the bitter truth is that you invaders deserve all that. I am not interested in replying to you further bcoz you are only interested in promoting falsehood under name of truth. And regarding me, I will answer directly to GOD – you better don’t come in between. You don’t have to. Don’t tell me fake stories. Let the Universe convert to Islam – I won’t. See you at judgement day. Bye …

In a 1974 speech to the UN, the Algerian President Houari Boumédienne, said — I quote: “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” End of quote.

* Libyan dictator Kadhafi said, I quote: “There are tens of millions of Muslims in the European continent today and their number is on the increase. This is the clear indication that the European continent will be converted into Islam. Europe will one day soon be a Muslim continent.” End of quote.

We need a collective mindset as Hindus to stand against the Islamic terrorist. The Muslims of India can join us if they genuinely feel for the Hindu. That they do I will not believe unless they acknowledge with pride that though they may be Muslims, their ancestors were Hindus. If any Muslim acknowledges his or her Hindu legacy, then we Hindus can accept him or her as a part of the Brihad Hindu Samaj (greater Hindu society) which is Hindustan. India that is Bharat that is Hindustan is a nation of Hindus and others whose ancestors were Hindus. Others, who refuse to acknowledge this, or those foreigners who become Indian citizens by registration, can remain in India but should not have voting rights (which means they cannot be elected representatives).

I agree with you. We need to fight against terrorism. Let’s stand against all the terrorists – not only Islam in particular. All those who genuinely want to do so for the Aryavart (Bhaarat – the ancient India) can join us provided their satisfy the criteria mentioned above. This is very much needed. Please provide some direction – what to do and how to do? Thank you …

If Sanskrit is made accessible in our education system, the gap between created and the creator can be bridged out. If anybody has ability to do so, please do this and eliminate this dilemma. Dhanyavaad.

If Sanskrit is made accessible in our education system, the gap between created and the creator can be bridged out. If anybody has ability to do so, please do this and eliminate the dilemma. Dhanyavaad.

before i start, I would like to tell you that I am an atheist and I have been reading about different religions from a long time and I found Vedas most impressive of them all. I am not saying it because I was born in a Hindu family and so I am being partial. I insist again, I am an atheist. and seriously , Polytheism is not as bad as many non Hindus portray it. as per my beliefs, there exists no God so whether you worship one or millions, it would not make any difference. what I am trying to say here is , I have seen many Muslims talking about the miracles of Koran and when asked to mention one, they quickly refer to the “Embryology”.they even tell us how Dr Keith Moore was impressed by the way it was explained in Koran. Honestly speaking, Garbha Upnishad, written some 2000 years before Koran was revealed, explains Embryology in astonishingly precise manner . and hey, Embryology in Koran is plain bullshit !(sorry I am trying hard to be polite, my bad ! ) it’s not only terribly wrong, but it’s been copied from Greek doctor Galen’s work that happens to have same stupid embryology in it. not to forget, Galen and Aristotle tried to explain it to the world, before Koran was revealed.! and if you get the latest edition of the book by Dr Keith Moore, you’ll know, he is not so impressed with the Koranic embryology anymore.

the main point is, was God bullshitting around with the Prophet that he revealed stupidity in the name of Embryology or the “God” was himself not perfect and could not explain what he blessed women with?

Brother Aikant I fully agree. Best of science existed in Indian books. West knows nothing but only copying. For example, In Sulabh Sutra; Baudhayana says that diagonal of a rectangle makes the square which vertical & horizontal sides make together (with proof). The point to be nooted here is that rectangle is a quadrilateral having all angles of 90 degrees. So, the 2 triangles obtained after dividing it (by making the diagonal) are right angled triangles. Baudhayana’s great works are explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudhayana 3 centuries after him, a man in Greece named as Pythagoras copied that work and stated without proof. Alas! Baudhayana’s works are called as Pythagoras theorem.

In Vaisheshik Sutra, Kanad postulated all atomic philosophies which are far better than Democritus and Leucippus. He also described what we call today as “Archimedes Principle”. In 650 BCE predating Archimedes by 4 centuries. The number system which we use is wrongly said as Arabic Numerals. Ram Setu is given wrong name of Adam Bridge. See, how the other world is full of thieves.

In ancient times (corresponding to 2000 BCE or even earlier than that) – the 3 words are used. यंत्र — machine / instruments विमान — aircraft परायान — spacecraft These were the achievements by ancient Indians. These concepts came to Europe a thousand year later. The longest Indian number is Mahaugha i.e., 10^63; the cube of western longest number. India never believed in publicity. Most important is that Brahmastra is no less than any atom bomb (Read Dhanurveda, Mahabharata and Valmiki Ramayana). This was knowledge of ancient India. It was hidden to avoid misuse. So, today an Indian does not knows what is his ancestral knowledge.

Aryabhata gave heliocentric model => Copernicus is a fraud. Brahmagupta gave gravitation => Newton is a thief. To hide their weakness, western world says that Vasco Da Gama discovered India. This is false as Vasco Da Gama had Indian sailors with him. Indian smallest unit of time = 0.000029411765 seconds which is square root of Western Value. The largest unit of time = 4.32 billion years. All scientific theories (including plastic surgery and rhinoplasty) have Indian origins. What modern scientists are doing is mere re discovery 🙁 Now, the question arises – WHY THE HELL ARE WE MODERN ???

“There can no longer be any real doubt that both Islam and Christianity owe the foundations of both their mystical and their scientific achievements to Indian initiatives.” – Philip Rawson (British Orientalist)

Indian smallest unit of time = 0.000029411765 seconds which is cube of the western value. Western smallest unit of time is just 0.030868 seconds. While Indian instruments were calibrated to the accuracy of 5 decimal places, west can only measure upto 2. Unfortunately! such instruments (including world’s oldest university) Takshashila was destroyed by cruel invaders. While the other cultures are combined to only their community or neighborhood (max to max a country) Indian philosophy speaks about: वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं । No other religion can be so great.

“After my study of 40 years of all great religions, I find none so perfect, none so scientific, none so spiritual, none so liberal as the great religion called as Hinduism.” – Annie Wood Beasant (from British Theosophical society)

Tslim Shaikh it continues.. Safiyah had married to her cousin Kinana, who was a young Jewish leader of Kheibar. When Muhammad raided that fortress, he killed its unarmed men and captured the rest. A Jewish traitor, (reminds me of Noam Chomsky) to gain Muhammad’s favor and be spared from death, told him that Kinana was the treasurer of the town and that he used to hide the money in some ruins. Muhammad ordered Kinana to be tortured to reveal the whereabouts of the treasures and killed him.

Then he asked the prettiest woman from amongst that captives to be brought to him. Ibn Ishaq writes: “The apostle occupied the Jewish forts one after the other, taking prisoners as he went. Among these were Safiya, the wife of Kinana, the Khaibar chief, and two female cousins: [sisters of Kinana] the apostle chose Safiya for himself. The other prisoners were distributed among the Muslims. Bilal brought Safiya to the apostle, and they passed the bodies of several Jews on the way. Safiya’s female companions lamented and strewed dust on their heads. When the apostle of Allâh observed this scene, he said, ‘Remove these she devils from me.‘ But he ordered Safiya to remain, and threw his reda [cloak] over her. So the Muslims knew he had reserved her for his own. The apostle reprimanded Bilal, saying, ‘Hast thou lost all feelings of mercy, to make women pass by the corpses of their husbands?’”

Safiyah was taken to Muhammad’s tent. Muhammad wanted to have sex with her on that very night, only hours after torturing to death her husband. She resisted his advances. That night Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of Muhammad. When, in the early dawn, Muhammad saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: “I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, I was really afraid for you on her account”. (Ibn Ishaq, p. 766)

The next day Muhammad covered Safiyah with his mantle, an act signifying…

I have just to say, that respect each other’s religion. How anybody can dare to say anything wrong without knowing the truth. The results are in front of all this world. Nothing is hidden. Islam is one of the religion from God. Islam is the last religion and Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) the prophet of God. The message of God was completed by revealing Islam. Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) spread Almighty God’s message in such a good manner that it was no need to send any Prophet. Even earlier Prophets of God told about Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H). That Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) will come to this world as a final messenger. The Shariat -e- Muhammadi can never be changed as Prophet Muhammed (sws) is the last prophet and no prophet will come after him. Our Prophet, Hazrat Muhammad (sws) has the highest position and rank among all the Prophets.

I just want to say that respect others and earn respect. If you have got any issue with anybody, you can even have a discussion. Try to contact the person and put your statement and listen to him. Kyunki Mazhab nahi sikhata aapas main bair rakhna.

You are misunderstanding last prophet. The meaning of last prophet is: The final postman who delivered the message of almighty. No other such postman will come in future. So, GOD can be happy that finally world is on the right path (hence requires no further postman). If this be the case, why were tyrants like Hitler born? Xians say that Jesus will come again but that will come when dooms day occurs (no wau 1400 years ago). This means that Jesus will come as last prophet not Mohammed. It concludes that either Christianity is fraud OR Islam is fraud. Please get along with Christians and find out what will happen.

///respect each other’s religion/// That cannot come one way. Can you preach Mohammedan to respect Judaism? Can you make a Christian respect a Mohammedan? Can you deny the history that Mohammedans spread terror wherever they went? Do that and then we will respect each other religion.

‘If the Arabs put down their weapons, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons, there would be no﻿ ‎more Israel’‎ ~Benjamin Netanyahu~

Pranam brother vedic God is great. Thank u for sharing such a wonderful site. I read sum initial parts of the site. Let the Mullahs refute it. I shall surely go through the site when i get time. Dhanyawad.

प्रणाम भ्राता Spirit ( आत्मा ); That website is just a trailer. The blunders of Quran are well known. Even youtube has videos by science lovers who say that Quran was written by fools. Forget of it being divine revelation, some even challenge Quran being a revelation. I won’t go into much detail. You can read the website anytime and also see what exactly were 1000 mistakes which they found.

Right Now, my focus is on this issue: http://tinyurl.com/7p38gvu Please go through it. Spread the word and educate as many as possible. If you can tell your friends OR agniveer sir to do something about it; please do the same. Dhanyavaad!

Tslim shaikh, if Quran were basis of all invention, the mullahs reciting the holy quram daily would b the greatest scientist. But why do we see the reverse? Why the muslaman ummat are the greatest superstitious people on the earth? Einstein is considered to b the best scientist so far. He was nothing but a jew who was surely the worst creature as per Quran. Why not Zakir Naik considered to b a scientist as he has understood and memorized the whole Quran? Can u answer this? You can mention sum of the great men in islam. But they were anything but practical muslims. I feel proud of Dr. APJ Abul Kalam Azad but ashamed of Zakir Naik. Bcoz the zakir is in my own species.

These scholars found 1000 mistakes in so called “HOLY” Quran. After reading these scientific points, Muslims agreed that Quran is bogus book. Some Muslims claimed to have refuted them. The website developers checked those refuting analysis and “उनकी पोल खोल दी!” All the analysis by muslim was proven as White bluff.

There are many scientific theories discovered 100 years ago. It is therefore, obvious that everybody will be knowing their names. Interestingly, Muslims (like Slim Shaikh) know only the names and boast of that much. You can anytime test that these know nothing about the concept. Now, Slim Shaikh will copy paste from some other source just like Quran copy pasted from Satanic Verses. These people don’t have even 1% originality. TRUE MUSLIM IS HE WHO GOES ON THE PATH OF PEACE WITHOUT READING QURAN AT ALL. Quran is revelation NOT by GOD but by Satan. Proof is Satanic Verses.

@Reply to Islam needs to reform GOD IS GREAT says: December 30, 2011 at 10:54 pm Islam does not need to reform because all the accusations against islam which you say need reform are not there in Islam. What some muslims are practising wrong and not sanctioned in Islam they will have to answer for one day. However, some muslims are quite reformed, eg they don’t eat meat, what to talk about cows, demanding dowry from parents of bride, bumping off one bride to get another one, bride burning. Lots of them are taking to liqor , drugs, dicing, gambling, womanising, stealing, trigger happy, taking graft, etc. etc.

ISLAM does not need reforming. EXCELLENT JOKE. All those who know truth can never control laughter on reading this. Some Muslims are reformed??? You mean to say that all those who haven’t reformed are not Muslim. I can show you incidents in Mumbai where many Muslims are drunk. Alcohol is banned in Islam – NO MORE THAN 12% Muslim population follows that. ///What some muslims are practising wrong and not sanctioned in Islam they will have to answer for one day./// WOW! You mean that 88% Muslims will answer. Again I appreciate your jokes.

Well, I am doubtful whether Islam is a religion OR not. The word religion comes from Latin word Religare meaning: Union. A religion assures union with almighty. Now, coming to 3 major faiths. JUDAISM – Broken into 71 sects of which 1 goes to heaven CHRISTIANITY – Broken into 72 sects of which 1 goes to heaven ISLAM – Broken into 73 sects of which 1 goes to heaven. Forget of these 3 being true religion OR related with peace / happiness. These are NOT religions in first place as they assure hell to a majority of followers. There are nothing more than a group of sects. On the contrary: Hinduism – 4 varnas. Lower caste NOT allowed to enter religious places. Even this is faulty. YOGA – derives from Sanskrit root युज् meaning union. Many people define: आत्मा और परमात्मा का मिलन योग है। Yoga is related with Vedas and hence YOGIC / VEDIC view is true religion. Vedas originated in India & India never invaded any other country in at least past 10,000 years. Hence, The true religion of peace = Vedas only. Vedas isn’t Hinduism. I believe in Vedas but not in Hinduism.

This is based on verse 10.18.7, part of the verses to be used at funerals. Whether they even describe sati or something else entirely, is disputed, The hymn is about funeral by burial, and not by cremation. There are differing translations of the passage. The translation below is one of those said to prescribe it.

Let these women, whose husbands are worthy and are living, enter the house with ghee (applied) as collyrium (to their eyes). Let these wives first step into the pyre, tearless without any affliction and well adorned.[63]

The text does not mention widowhood, and other translations differ in their translation of the word here rendered as ‘pyre’ (yoni, literally “seat, abode”; Griffith has “first let the dames go up to where he lieth”). In addition, the following verse, which is unambiguously about widows, then contradicts any suggestion of the woman’s death; it explicitly states that the widow should return to her house.

Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman — come, he is lifeless by whose side thou liest. Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.[64]

A reason given for the discrepancy in translation and interpretation of verse 10.18.7, is that one consonant in a word that meant house, yonim agree “foremost to the yoni”, was deliberately changed by those who wished claim scriptural justification, to a word that meant fire, yomiagne.[65]

Tslim Shaikh it continues.. Safiyah had married to her cousin Kinana, who was a young Jewish leader of Kheibar. When Muhammad raided that fortress, he killed its unarmed men and captured the rest. A Jewish traitor, (reminds me of Noam Chomsky) to gain Muhammad’s favor and be spared from death, told him that Kinana was the treasurer of the town and that he used to hide the money in some ruins. Muhammad ordered Kinana to be tortured to reveal the whereabouts of the treasures and killed him.

Then he asked the prettiest woman from amongst that captives to be brought to him. Ibn Ishaq writes: “The apostle occupied the Jewish forts one after the other, taking prisoners as he went. Among these were Safiya, the wife of Kinana, the Khaibar chief, and two female cousins: [sisters of Kinana] the apostle chose Safiya for himself. The other prisoners were distributed among the Muslims. Bilal brought Safiya to the apostle, and they passed the bodies of several Jews on the way. Safiya’s female companions lamented and strewed dust on their heads. When the apostle of Allâh observed this scene, he said, ‘Remove these she devils from me.‘ But he ordered Safiya to remain, and threw his reda [cloak] over her. So the Muslims knew he had reserved her for his own. The apostle reprimanded Bilal, saying, ‘Hast thou lost all feelings of mercy, to make women pass by the corpses of their husbands?’”

Safiyah was taken to Muhammad’s tent. Muhammad wanted to have sex with her on that very night, only hours after torturing to death her husband. She resisted his advances. That night Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of Muhammad. When, in the early dawn, Muhammad saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: “I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, I was really afraid for you on her account”. (Ibn Ishaq, p. 766)

The next day Muhammad covered Safiyah with his mantle, an act signifying that she is now his…

@GOD IS GREAT says: December 30, 2011 at 10:54 pm See jokes apart , Islam does not need to reform because all the accusations against islam which you say need reform are not there in Islam. What some muslims are practising wrong and not sanctioned in Islam they will have to answer for one day. However, some muslims are quite reformed, eg they don’t eat meat, what to talk about cows, demanding dowry from parents of bride, bumping off one bride to get another one, bride burning. Lots of them are taking to liqor , drugs, dicing, gambling, womanising, stealing, trigger happy, taking graft, etc. etc.

@atoze _______What some muslims are practising wrong and not sanctioned in Islam they will have to answer for one day. However, some muslims are quite reformed, eg they don’t eat meat, what to talk about cows________ What rubbish you are preaching here? Are u kaffir. Meat eating is very beneficial. Who are u to talk against meat eating if Allah & Prophet sanctioned meat eating? If they do not eat meat thast means they are against Prophet & Allah & Quran. If they do not like test then no problem. If there is something other reason they are against Prophet (PBUH).

@TSlim Shaik says: January 1, 2012 at 11:26 am shaik please read the previous correspondence between me and prithvi and God is Great the you will understand what and why I have written what you are referring to. Wish you all a Happy New Year !

@Atoze asalam o alikum __________Wish you all a Happy New Year__________________ My new year starts with Islamic calendar. I am not follower of English or European like Hindus & Muslims like you. Have u listen proverb (Baigani Shaddi me abdula diwana)? This is fit on you.

My new year starts with Islamic calendar. I am not follower of English or European like Hindus & Muslims like you. Have u listen proverb (Baigani Shaddi me abdula diwana)? This is fit on you.

So why you use internet which was invented by kaffirs? Why are you typing in English rather than Arabia? Why are you spending time on facebook which was introduced by a kaffir Mark? Why do you use bulb which was invented by a jew? Why do you use satellite which came to being by the process of the greatest scientists who were anything but muslims??? Can you answer this?? Look Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Jews (and so on but not islam) have contributed to humanity but what your islam did for humanity other than assassination, invasion, plundering, looting, child molesting etc etc??????

There is one thing which these Muslim jokers always say. Islam & Quran is scientific. Questions arise: If Islam be scientific, how many scientists and innovators it generated. Answer = 0.000 (correct upto 3 decimal places). Now, this Slim Shaikh will give stupid explanation to defend Islam. But, even he cannot tell which scientists made Quran as reference? (How can he – champions here will catch his lie very easily.) This proves a persian scholar Mohammed Abu Bakr who said, “If the people of Islam are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed.” What a cruel belief propagated by a cruel follower of Satan. Ref.: http://alturl.com/rsqen

@Spirit/God(Allah) is Great All the scientific discoveries/inventions you have motioned above are in the line of Quran. Quran is base of all. All these came after Quran revelations. You should get this point.http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-65420

Did you really mean ALL of the contents of that website? You are kidding me, right? If you really meant to say all that you have either a (1)great way of summarizing a long document which unfortunately only makes sense to you, or (2)you have a stupid way of summarizing a long document, or (3)you did not really mean what that website says but meant something else in which case you would be called a liar or (4)you have an extremely warped sense of logic for none of the assertions you made in your penultimate post follow from anything that is mentioned in the website that you referred to in your last post.

@Prithvi says: December 28, 2011 at 8:41 am I think you did not read properly what I said about ajmal kasab, I was suggesting, since we have captured one terrorist alive, we should use him to find about the whole plot, saazish ka parda poora faash hona chaheye so that all those involved in it are brought to justice. We should make sure such incidents don’t happen again.

there is no doubt that BBC WORLD has shown the proof that ajmal kasab is a pakistani and has shown the house locality, he has also admitted that pakistan is behind terrorism in india but some scoundrels are blaming on hindus,Pakistan who has no work except hate ,revenge and destruction of India has continuing jihad against ourselves, There is no need of any relations with these liars ,brainless and terror sanctuary country Pakistan.

Atoze we admit that some people in europe have converted to islam to which oftenly claimed by Muslims, but they say nothing where muslims leaving Islam.As i have told freedom is religion practised in Europe and USA so they converts to islam and other religions, but many Muslims are leaving islam silently in Europe due to fear of their lives. you have heard that muslims who renounce islam have been put into death or severly tortured. One recent example an Iranian pastor Youscef Nadarkhani have penalised by death for his apostasy .so there is a big difference between western and muslim countries, even minorities are not allowed to repair their shrines in islamic countries. opposing ground zero mosque is done by the americans whose relatives were killed in 9/11 attack, even ahmediya as also demanded to build temple,church,synagogue and other shrines in ground zero to respect the victims of all communities.

Prithvi jee, What’s the use? People like Atoze won’t learn easily. They will only criticize us & keep doing so. He says that we blame Muslims but in one of the previous comments – he writes: ///Saudi king asked french president for a plot of land in Paris to build a mosque, for businessmen visiting and diplomats. The french president said that you can get permission if you allow us to build a church in Mecca ! Event 25 years back ! { It is a different matter that there are now so many whites in france, who have embraced Islam, that there are now 5000 mosques in France }/// He himself brought loopholes in Islam to the light. Muslims won’t allow anybody to build religious buildings in their countries but would require others to build Mosques in their countries. See how FRAUD Islam is. 25 years later, Christianity has reformed. Islam is yet to reform. (Consider you are playing chess. Opponent says – I will play on your behalf. You cannot play on mine. I will kill your pawn, you cannot kill mine. If I am victorious, you reward me. If you are, I won’t reward you. Islam functions similar way.) But good thing – Atoze himself showed loopholes in Islam. Conclusion: Nevertheless, let’s not waste our energy putting someone down. But we should focus on core of the link mentioned below i.e., building our Dharma and educate / unite Hindus. http://agniveer.com/600/naik-hinduism/#comment-63739

god is great you are absolutely right it is useless to these people have their own world and thoughts,mother religion is the best religion in the world whatever it may be, it is our duty to protect our culture ,religion.As we knew the truth.We have to remember that conversion will lead to the creation of a new new nation.we knew that there is no such crap claimed by these idiots, we are happy in our life, religion and have the choice of worship according to our wish. you can see this websiteshttp://www.hindujagruti.orghttp://www.hinduwisdom.info (this is a website which shows the hidden treasure of sanatan dharma and praised by many westerners) so please once visit it and reply me how it is plz.

GOD IS GREAT says: December 28, 2011 at 7:57 pm Christians have reformed and muslims haven’t. This incident is not enough to prove that christians have reformed in any way. You think Hinduism after all the reforms is good enough. No it isn’t, it is now just a sugar coated falsehood. The basic religious concepts in hinduism are faulty. You may remove Suttee, Child marriages, Torture of widows, Surpression of lower castes, abolition of devdasi system ,honor killing in same gotra marriages etc, to name a few, but the basic concepts of God are defective in Hinduism. So anyone who reforms hinduism maybe does good for hinduism but it harms hindus. It ensures that hindus remain ‘warped’ worshipping gods and goddesses. Akbar who started it has done disservice to hindus. The Later people who did it may have been sincere but they were inspired by people with ulterior motives. In contrast Prophet Muhammad ( may Allah send his blessing on him and his progeny ) wanted as many people as possible to get heaven. After all he ( may Allah send his blessing on him and his progeny ) was sent as mercy to Mankind from Allah. Hindus however continue to see this politically. Jabke aisa kuch nahin hai. (Aap to khud keh rahe ho ke aap superior ho saare doctor engineer aapke race se bante hain to aapko kaheki chinta hai. Don’t see it politically. Nobody is going to live for very long.) Reformed Hinduism is only like removing the bitterness from poison, so that it is easy to consume. The Hindus will ultimately suffer for it. I’m sorry if I have hurt you by saying this in plain words. But truth is sometimes harsh to hear.

Salutations Brother Atoze! Have you seen Laughter Challenge? The participants there insult many famous personalities. Some even laugh at the anchors. But no one reacts. Why? Because they know that it is meant as light hearted comedy and not a serious programme. Your comment is of same category. Why feel bad – I rather thank you for entertaining me.

Majority of Christian and other Non Muslim countries have become secular. Which Muslim dominated nation is secular? Yet you find Christian reforms NOT SATISFACTORY. good joke! Where did I mention myself superior? (Or is it another joke by you?) and how can doctors and engineers be politically seen? What has that to do with long life? If these are other jokes by you, please mention so. Brother, while telling so many jokes, you forgot to consider the fact Islam is yet to reform. This error is OK – given the fact that you speak jokes. Why do you have problems with Hindu reforms? Who are you to judge reforms by the way? ISLAM clearly mentions that On the Day Judgement – Allah judges everyone. Why are you taking Allah’s job? Leave the judgement jobs onto Allah. Thank you once again for the entertainment.

@Prithvi says: December 26, 2011 at 7:12 am contd… Allah had to say these ayats regarding battle because people came to fight muslims, they did not want anyone propagating against idolatory, because it was their means of livelihood. They did not want to stop usury, their means of livelihood, so Jesus Christ was crucified. It is evil that came to fight good. Satya ki jeet ke liye hi to duniya bani hai. Agar sangharsh nahi hoga to jeet kaisi. It is evil that comes to destroy good always. You have to protect good isn’t it. During history of mankind the rules of the battle was one to one man, do we any longer follow these rules ? Before you start quoting Quranic ayats you should first read reference to context. ( Unless youy aim is to criticise only). It will help to remove your doubts. However, Allah has set the rules of battle also. They are much better against those who fight with no rules. Men have made neutron bombs, Hydrogen bombs, atom bombs, chemical weapons, biological weapons, Star wars n don’t know what not. Enough to destroy themselves. So now these people are accusing Allah ! Allah made laws of fusion n fission to provide you with energy and and man has readied it to destroy themselves. Allah made man and has set the rules of family life, in line with rules of his creation. Insaan ne kya kiya woh kya chahta hai jo aap west main aaj dekh rahe ho…., Bollywood mein dekh rahe ho…. live in relationship. All the good things He has created to ear ! Don’t be thankless to Allah for his countless favours. Allah has said ‘ then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny.’ Ek shair ne kaha hai ‘ Zindagi kya hai anasir me zahoore tarteeb maut kya hai inhe ajza ka pareyshaan hona’. Be thankful that Allah created you.

Atoz brother, I am not interested in criticizing anyone but want to be frank. You are right. One cannot deny what greatness GOD did. उस परमसत्य के कई उपकार है हमारे समाज पर जो मनुष्य अज्ञानतावश भूल बैठा है। But, I have a doubt. You mentioned that GOD was against those who came to kill Muslims – whatever be the reason. So, GOD made rules of fighting and order death of Non Muslims. Agree – Fully agree. Please read further. Osama Bin Laden & other terrorists destroyed WTC. What was wrong with poor innocent peoples there? In Islam dominated nations, a christian is killed if he tries to build a Church. In no Christian nation, Muslims are killed if they build any mosque. Why such partiality? The terrorists like Kasab is evil or not? In Mumbai blasts (OR any other blasts) many innocent peoples are killed who donot have anything against any Muslim. Just they were unfortunately born as Non Muslim & did not become a Muslim. Was it right for a Momin to kill them? OK – even if we assume that many people hated Muslim; yet there are many innocents. Murder of children is not permissible as per Quran. Why gangs like Al Qaeda, Lashkar e Taiyyeba etc. blasts buildings and kills babies too then? My friend, you are speaking of America. In America, many Muslims are behind the bars as they are caught red handed making atom bombs. They admitted that they wanted to destroy USA. It seems the Muslims themselves are disobeying the rules by GOD.

My actual doubt is: What is your reaction to these mass murders ??? Are you in favour of these ? If yes, WHY? If not, then what solutions you propose? Please explain so that true Islam can be understood. Thanks

GOD IS GREAT says: December 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm only a small portion of your response is worth answering to. Allah is aganist any sort of killing, not muslims only. I said before quoting Quran please refer to history of the ayats revealed ( reference to context ) , in other words please do not quote out of context. About you query regarding terrorists All terrorist is condemnable. But before you pass a judgement on anyone find the actual facts, refer to a book – ‘who killed karkare’, this will give you some better insight of behind the scenes position. To give you an example, I have heard that there are some terrorist organisations, operating in various conflict zones, which are supported by western countries. I am unable to give specific details, these are financed by big powers for political gains. They have interests in these countries. Asliyat kahan pata hai sabko. Who is behind what. After all the day of Judgement will be a busy day probably. There would be a lot to do judgement to do. There are christian terrorist organisations also, okhaloma bombing, the skin heads etc. In America whites are massacring children in schools, In Australia they are targeting Indians have you forgotten that. How many Indians are working and earning in Muslim countries ! Tell me, if your younger brother asks for money for chocolate – you will readily give it, If he asks money for making chlothes, buy motorcycle you will readily oblige. However if you brother asks money for buying doping drugs will you give it ? In fact you would chide him. Similarly because muslims are against Idolatory, in christian churches also they do Idolatory by putting images of mother mary and Jesus Christ. So they do not allow building Churches – where ever you are referring to. Aap politics zyada or religion ke bare mein kam sochte ho lagta hai !

Atoze yes good always blame on others , now you will say that pakistan was created by hindus, after you will say ajmal kasb , dawood ibrahim they all are innocents .Okholoham bombings was caused by mentaly ill person. “christian terrorists” have they made guidelines on jesus , these people never recognised with any religions, the incidents you have mentioned are not nothing to do with the religion , they have been now solved, Indians have full of talent they are working through all over the world , in USA there are sizeable no. doctors and scientists, in Gulf countries people are being recruited from all over the world , there are many non-muslims who have complained discrimination in those countries, muslims are getting political benefits in europe and USA.

so by not allowing building churches in your countries , so you want to say that muslims are intolerant, fanatics and always interfare in other religious matters. muslims always interfare in other religions ,does christian countries prohibits the muslims from building mosques and madrasahs by giving childish statement. why muslims have problem in idolatory or polytheists of other beliefs, every person have freedom of choice what and how and to whom they will worship, this is respected by america ,india and other secular countries.

@Prithvi says: December 28, 2011 at 8:41 am Prithvi :- It is not easy to get permission for muslims to build a religious place in non muslim ruled states. Muslims were not allowed to build even a community centre near gound zero in New York. ( You know how good and easy it is to build a mosque in India, Temple toh main road encroach karke you can make it ! ) 25 years ago Saudi king asked french president for a plot of land in Paris to build a mosque, for businessmen visiting and diplomats. The french president said that you can get permission if you allow us to build a church in Mecca ! Event 25 years back ! { It is a different matter that there are now so many whites in france, who have embraced Islam, that there are now 5000 mosques in France }

what has been created in the world or the scenario of world is due to the human thoughts.what is good and what is bad it is due to morality and ethical thoughts of human, religions prohibits human thoughts exceed.no religious book said that we are slave of god, we are the children of god .entire universe is the part of god.i don’t believe in hell fire, god gives the result according to the human’s actions.i reject the god who behaves like sadistic monster and imperialistic i have not criticised any books what has written in your holy text that i have say , quotes are comming same after translation in every language, you people always says out of context, minorities are always persecuted in islamic countries ,their rights have been denied. they have been considered as dhimmis where as muslims are enjoying all rights in western countries.musliims are killing innocent people in the name of god.i have really seen how muslims terrify the innocent people. they uses slangs, molests the girls on streets. muslims are criminalising the societies of europe, in india bangladeshi muslims are engaged in dreaded crimes . pigs are haram then why god created them? for these we will thank to your allah.

@Prithvi says: December 27, 2011 at 2:14 pm You reject god is okay but if God should reject you then there is deep deep trouble for you. You can do nothing about it. God is irresistible if you only understood that. Even your stupid genes are very unstable they need to be repaired all the time. If some of the repair work goes wrong you would be severly sick. Should Allah reverse engineer, meaning reorganise your genes, you may end up as an ape or a pig, you can do nothing about it. He has done that to people before who rejected Him.

atoze so you means allah doesn’t know except torture and cruelity who rejects him, like crime mafia any body who disobeys the mafia then mafia will kill him, now it is clear that allah ki soch itni giri hui hai , no prophets in other religion said there is no hell fire , then all persons before islam and non-muslims who serve for humanity are now burning in hell, why allah is not giving any proof of hell and heaven ,just following dogmas like sheep, every living creature which has been created by nature are benefits for us..scientists have proved all living beings have some useful benefits whether it may be ant,pig or any animals .

@Prithvi says: December 26, 2011 at 2:30 pm America is a country which has a very-very diverse population. (It is a relatively new country where people from all over the world have settled.) It is a country where there is equality and justice. They work on the premise that people will love their country if they are given equality and justice. People will do anything for what they Love. To give you an example, immediatedly post 9/11 one christian shot dead one sikh and one muslim at a petrol pump out of racial hatred. The state where the incident happened still has death sentence for grevious offences . In the judgement of the above case death sentence was awarded to the accused, which was promptly carried out. 9/11 or whatever they will never compromise on principles.

america,europe and india are following true democracies due to which people are enjoying freedom and benefits no doubt, but it is your duty to explain the radical muslims who wants to destroy the democracy and culture of western countries.religious freedom,expresssion are permited in india.but islamic countries like iran,pakistan saudi arabia,sudan and others provides equal and justice like america?

@Prithvi says: December 27, 2011 at 2:21 pm Today america is better, at one time America was controlled by Mafia, Justice is still better in Muslim countries. There is instabiltiy in Muslim countries because of outside interference. Business interests you see.

atoze muslim counntries from centuries are following dictatorship,tyranny,oppression.it is the study which taughts in muslim countries to blame on western world.human rights are being demnaded in muslim countries for many years which has not been fulfilled.many people are migrating to the western world for better life .if america and other european countries are have better position because they respects humanity, they respects secularism they are not crazy on religion. they have eliminated religion from education and state, where as your muslim countries are only crazy about religion or else nothing thats why they are backwards, your muslim countries only thinks about blasphemy law or else nothing. by following inhuman and barbarian law you say this is justice .

@Bagyaraj says: December 26, 2011 at 8:06 pm Aura may depend on the colour but according to gene mapping there was no difference between races in the DNA makeup. I think nothing gives truer picture than DNA mapping !

@Atoz says:December 27, 2011 at 1:05 am Aura is a field of subtle, luminous radiation surrounding a person or object and DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is the hereditary material in humans and almost all other organisms. Both are different subject.The analysis is done on Aura and is based on color.How can one do Gene mapping to know the color??

@Prithvi says: December 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm Bro. the credit of makig India one country from Assam to Afghanistan goes to Muslims. Before they came India it was divided into small kingdoms always at war with each other !

atoze “muslims united india”are you collecting information from Pakistani historians . india was already united under Nandas,Mauryas,Kanishkas, Harsh vardhanas.Afghanistan was already part of the india .Muslims can’t conquered Assam. during muslim rule india was not united .there were many muslim kingdoms who where fighting each other,bengal,bijapur,golconda,hyderabad,ahmadnagar ,jaunpur ,awadhand nawab of gujarat.Muslims separated afghanistan during mughals, it was British who united India and change the future of India.

By British Old caste system in India is based on profession and the rigidity was brought by the British, by conducting the senses based on the professional name and they labeled the profession as caste and declared each caste is specific and different. They declared interchange is not possible. The hidden agenda when they declared that some castes are superior and other are inferior / lower. This resulted in the fight among the castes for their aim of divide and rule this country. British created more than 1400 castes like this.British separated the districts, panchayat, municipality, geographically, they separated Indians also and labeled them inferior and superior on the so called caste, where professionally there were only four castes without any problem for their interchanging, They demarked the so called castes with powerful marking without the provision for interchanging. The present progressives, atheists, rationalists, radicals, politicians degraded that further. Which automatically divided the society like what resulting in social fight and conflict.

By Politicians In this country, all the negatives are either created or magnified / glorified / polluted / criminalized /.. by politicians. The British created and rigidified the caste system and the politicians screwed for their benefits. Politicians like V.P. Singh divided the Hindus in the name of mandal commission and Maayaavati type of people are further degrading it. Remember none is to be left out from this crime, including the BJP. Only solution is that serious and sincere organizations should work silently for eradicating the tumor from the society by removing the negatives of the caste system. Discuss with the caste leaders and followers. Never give an impression that the caste system will be eradicated. The only aim should be the removal of the evils of the caste system. Even now the politicians want to keep the caste system and its negatives alive for their benefit whether the society divides or the society goes to dogs, they are more heinous than the Britishers who ruled India for more than 250 years.

@ Pritvi, Conclusion After all in Hindu community the divide based on caste system is very less compared to the fight between different muslim group among themselves and different Christian groups among themselves for power, money and for converting each other to their castes.

bagyaraj i admit that today nasty politicians are playing vote bank dividing hindus on caste basis, those brahmans,kshytrias ,vaishyas and shudras were considered on karma which was later corrupted by selfish persons from time to time. today only solution is the education to eradicate caste system. We want people like vikramaditya,shivaji ,savarkar,bal gangadhar tilak and other patriots to create a hindu nationalism.its the people create a stong government for national security

Some Scientific facts of caste system in Vedas “chaathur varnyam mayaa srushtam guna karma vibhaagasa”: I have created the four varnas (purely) based on the quality of the profession (karma) respectively……….. Varna can be said as colour or group. Scientific evidence for this statement Dr. P. Raman, MBBS, MD, Professor of Calicut Medical College, Kerala and Skin specialist conducted with a team of doctors, the aura analyses of few hundred people using Kirlian photography. Aura of the people from all religion and caste were subjected to the analyses and found that the aura (of all the people) can be classified under four colors.

atoze it valiant hindu rulers who successfully prevented muslims conquering completely, these muslims rulers were beasts and savageous who doesn’t have any benelovance or mercy on non-muslims.what you have to say about pakistan,bangladesh,afghanistan and kashmir who are now fully islamised and once upon time they were the part of indian sub -continenet.muslims are peaceful thats why massacred the zoroastrians in iran, destroyed their shrines ,enslaved their women and children, zoroastrians migrated to india and see how they have prospered in india.honor killings are high in muslim countries.persecution of non-muslims in islamic hells are same, have it has been bounded to 1 or 2 countries then it has been a different thing.those medias are high lighting the muslims , these are not lies. muslim migrants are commting several dreaded crimes in europe and USA in the name of allah,they are demanding for islamisation of europe, are christians are shouting for christianisation of arab lands and other muslim countries?.hindus or christians never formed terrorist organisation in the name of religion ,where as muslims have formed several terror organisations on quranic instructions.there are no religious violence in cambodia ,srilanka, burma and other non-muslim countries which were politically are no more, while there is daily violence in nigeria ,indonesia,,sudan with christians, sunnis and shias are killing each other in iraq,pakistan, yemen in the name of allah.

@ Pritvi,Vinay Arya and all others – Please learn this before commenting on Islam Status & Responsibility of Women in Islam Islam enjoins morality in behavior and appearance. Fashions that reduce women to sex objects are not acceptable. Islam gave women the right of inheritance and independent ownership. Women can seek employment. Muhammad’s first wife was a successful business woman. Protection of Women’s Honor: “…who launch a charge against women…produce four witnesses…” (Quran 24:4). Muhammad said: “…treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers”. “The best of you are those who are kindest with your wives” “….generous who are good to women, and…wicked who insults them”. Status of Mother: “A man asked Muhammad: ‘Whom should I honor most?’ The Prophet replied: ‘Your mother’. ‘And who comes next?’ asked the man. The Prophet replied: ‘Your mother’. ‘And who comes next?’ asked the man. The Prophet replied: ‘Your mother!’ ‘And who comes next?’ asked the man. The Prophet replied: ‘Your father’” Marriage: “…He created for you mates from among yourselves… dwell in tranquility with them and He has put love and mercy between your hearts…” (Quran 30:21). Independent Identity: A married woman in Islam retains her independent legal personality and her family name. She is not the property of her husband in any way!

Wife’s Property: From the 7th century, a woman does not need to present gifts (dowry) to attract potential husband. The groom must present the bride with a marriage gift. The bride retains her marriage gift even if she is later divorced. She is never obliged to act as a co-provider for the family unless she herself voluntarily chooses to do so. Divorce: Islam discourages divorce, yet recognizes the rights of both partners to end their matrimonial relationship. “Live with them on a footing of kindness and equity…” (Quran 4:19). “A believing man must not hate a believing woman. If he dislikes one of her traits he will be pleased with another”. (Muhammad). The Veil: “O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies so that they should be known and not molested” (Quran 33:59). Islamic veil is a means of protection from unwanted attention. Polygamy Polygamy in the West: Serial polygamy: marriage, divorce, marriage, divorce, etc; a married man with one or more girlfriends; an unmarried man with a number of girlfriends. Polygamy addresses orphans and widows in society. Billy Graham, the Evangelist said: “Islam has permitted polygamy as a solution to social ills… Christian countries make a great show of monogamy, but actually they practice polygamy.… Islam is a fundamentally honest religion…” Many non-Muslim and Muslim countries have outlawed polygamy. Cheating on the wife or using women without taking responsibility are common. Is the law designed to reward deception and punish honesty? Nearly 4 out of 5 who accepted Islam in the USA are Women.

Some Famous Quotes About Muhammad Bernard Shaw (British philosopher): “… the Savior of Humanity…..if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems…” (The Genuine Islam). Gandhi: “…it was not the sword that won a place for Islam.. It was the rigid simplicity… his absolute trust in God and in his own mission..” (Young India) Michael Hart: “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons…he was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.” (The 100: A Ranking Of The Most Influential Persons In History). The Rational Choice Study different religions, compare them, and then make a rational choice. Islam is the final religion of mankind till the last day of this world. God says: “We have sent you (Muhammad) as a mercy for all nations” (Quran 21:107). “I (God) have perfected your religion for you…have chosen for you Islam as your religion” (Quran 5:3). People often say that Islam spread by ‘the sword’. This is not true. There is no mention of the word ‘SWORD’ in the whole Quran. Only a few preachers went to Indonesia. Today it is the largest Muslim country. There is not a single TV, Radio Station or a national newspaper owned or controlled by the Muslims in the USA. Islam is still the fastest growing religion in USA & Europe. Those who accept Islam include priests, bishops, doctors, engineers, businessmen, writers, scientists, scholars, celebrities, inmates, and ‘ordinary’ people including a large percentage of women. Muslim communities are growing in every city with over 4,000 mosques in USA and Canada alone.

Can you just quote sources of what you have mentioned. – Use sources other than Quran OR what Muslims say. You cannot quote any source because what you have mentioned is interpolated by a so called Momin. The true quotes with duly authentic true sources is found here:

Mohammed was praised by 2 but insulted by 100 at least. Regarding growth of Muslim population, don’t worry. America will kill a Momin just as they did so for Osama. Nothing is wrong with a Muslim untill he becomes a Jehadi. You also know that 2012 is declared as official dooms day year. World ends when crimes reaches to its peak – Obviously. Since, all the signs of your awaited hour has arrived. You can assume that world will end soon. You Muslims are contributing towards world’s destruction. You proved that the only thing which you can do is this. Agree that Muslim population is growing but on the same side, many Arabics who are Jehadis are thrown behind bars. I guess you are cunting prisoners too. Leave it. Muslim dominated nation never succeeded and even Nostradamus is supporting India so, all your arguments fall flat. See you at the day of judgement. Good Bye till then.

hyder ji muslims are growing due to the high birth rate and migration policies not due to any conversion rates.freedom of religion and its preaching is allowed to everybody .many muslims have renounced islam in usa and europe silenty due to the fear of death.

@ Ayras,Prithvi etc etc – If some body is ready to refute statement by statement Read More Black Laws against the Women and Degradation of Women. 1. Every woman must be loyal, faithful. obedient honorable to her husband even if he is blind, deaf, dumb, old, physically handicapped, debauchel or, gambler and neglects his wife and lives with his concubine(s). If the husband is unhappy, it would be the fault of his wife. If he cries, she should cry. If he laughs she should laugh. She can only answer humbly to his question. She should not on her own put any question. She should eat only after her husband eats. If he is beating she should not react, but fall on his feet and beg him to pardon her, and kiss his hands and pacify him. If the husband dies she should burn herself to death on his funeral pyre and go along with him to the other world and serve him there in this manner. (Padma Purana) 2. Women are fickle minded. Never believe them. Friendship with women is just like friendship with a wolf. (Rig-Veda 8-33-7) 3. A virtuous woman is one who dies on the funeral pyre of her dead husband and avails the privilege of serving her husband in the other world. (Atharva Veda 18-3-1) 4. Woman is the source of sorrow. At birth she makes her mother weep. At the time of the puberty she makes her parents weep. At the time of the marriage she makes all her family members and relatives weep. In youth she commits lot of blunders and brings bad name to the entire family, relatives and Varna . She tortures the hearts of her parents, husband and other family members. She is called ‘DARIKA’ because she is source of sorrow to all. (Aithareya Brahmana) 5. Women are liars, corrupt, greedy, and non virtuous. (Manu II 1) 6. Even for a woman, the performance of the sanskaras are necessary and they should be performed. But they should be performed without uttering the Veda Mantras.” (Manu II. 60) 7. It is the nature of women to seduce men in this (world); the wise are never unguarded in the company of males. (Manu II…

8. For women are able to lead astray in (this) world not only a fool, but even a learned man, and (to make) him a slave of desire and anger.” (Manu II.214) 9. One should not sit in a lonely place with one’s mother, sister or daughter, for the senses are powerful, and master even a learned man.” (Manu II. 215)10. A Brahmin male by virtue of his birth becomes the first husband of all women in the universe. (Manu III. 14)11. Women not care for beauty, nor is their attention fief on age; (thinking); (it is though that) he is a man; they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly. (Manu IV. 14)12. By a girl, by a young woman, or even by an aged one, nothing must be done independently, even in her own house.” (Manu IV. 147) 13. In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband, when her lord is dead to her sons; a woman must never be independent. (Manu IV. 148)14. She must not seek to separate herself from her father, husband or son; by leaving them. She would make them both (her own and her husband’s) family incompatible. (Manu IV. 149)15. A Brahman must never eat food given at a sacrifice performed by a woman. (Manu IV. 205) 16. Sacrifices performed by women are inauspicious and not acceptable to god. They should therefore be avoided. (Manu IV. 206)17. She must always be cheerful, clever in management of her household affairs, careful in cleaning her utensils and economical in expenditure. (Manu V. 150)18. Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father’s permission, she shall obey as long as he lives and when he is dead, must not insult his memory. (Manu V. 151)19. The husband who wedded her with sacred mantras is always a source of happiness to his wife, both in season and out of season, in this world and in the next. (Manu V1. 53)

20. Though destitute or virtuous, or seeking pleasure elsewhere, or devoid of good qualities, yet a husband must be constantly worshipped as a god by a faithful wife. (Manu V. 154)21. No sacrifice, no vow, no fast must be performed by women, apart from their husbands. If a wife obeys her husband, she will for that reason alone be exalted in heaven. (Manu V. 155)22. At her pleasure let her (i.e. widow) enunciate her body, by living voluntarily on pure flowers, roots and fruits, but let her not when her lord is deceased, even pronounce the name of another man. (Manu V. 157)23. But a widow, who from a wish to bear children, slights her deceased husband by marrying again, brings disgrace on herself here below, and shall be excluded from the seat of her lord (in heaven). (Manu V. 161)24. Responsibly the father who gives not (his daughter) in marriage at the proper time. (Manu IX. 4)25. A woman must always maintain her virtue and surrender her body to her husband only, ever if she is married off to an ugly person or even a leper. (Manu IX. 14)26. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however, carefully they may be guarded in this (world). (Manu IX. 15)27. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of Creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them. (Manu IX. 16)28. When creating them, Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of heart) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct. (Manu IX. 17) 29. Killing of a woman, a Shudra or an atheist is not sinful. Woman is an embodiment of the worst desires, hatred, deceit, jealousy and bad character. Women should never be given freedom. (Manu IX. 17 and V. 47, 147)30. Women have no right to study the Vedas. That is why their Sanskars are performed without Veda Mantras. women have no knowledge of religion because they have no right to know the Vedas. The uttering of…

hyder your quran and hadith still talks women is inferior to the men see here (quran 4.34)-Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is most high. (quran 2.228)-Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise. (quran 2.282)-Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses. (quran 4.11)-“Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah. (Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826)-Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, “Isn’t the witness of a women equal to half that of a man?” The women said “yes”. He said “This is because of the deficiency of the women’s mind.” (Sahih Bukhari 1:9:490)-Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, “You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.” (Sahih Bukhari 5:59:524)-The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will…

We have cried enoguh.We have said to read the authentic translation of the Vedas.We have provided the site which gives the translation of the complete Vedas.Now,if you don’t read them then please do not read also translations by fools.We have also said thaT Manu Smriti has been changed orver time.So one should be careful while reading it.But you do not follow it.So,please,tell us how can we be helpful for you?

And you are criticising some good qualities of woman.Those aren’t bad qualities.Think in your mind freely.

Even now,we are advising you to study “Satyarth Prakash”.Here you will find the proof of woman’s right to study Vedas,do havan,no caste system, etc. There are many articles on this site which prove that woman has the right to study the Vedas,shudras have the right.”.But I am waiting for that day when you will read them.Hope,you will pass your eyes this time opened through those articles.

Prithvi says: December 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm The khemer rouge was in cambodia and tamil tigers in srilanka , IRA in England, these were terrorist organisations in united nations list. The christians often raised to the ground the cities they conquered. Did muslims do that ? Why did Ashoka embrace buddhism after kalinga ? The so called advanced nations are now realising that what is happening in Muslim ruled countries is because of the wrong policies they have been following for such a long time. The chickens are only now coming to roost. I think honor killings are much more prevalent in places where they do not allow ‘same Gotra’ marriages. What is that a community sanctioned oppression in the name of honour or just honour killing. ? bro is this thing prevailing so heavy on your heart that you have become biased on Islam. No, I think it is unwise to do that. It is the best Religion sent by Allah/God/Eshwar. The present position on terrorism may change in due course but it may be too late for some people if they are waiting for this situation to change before they realise the true value of Islam. You know life is not only short but also uncertain. The pope says that Prophet Muhammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) brought nothing new to this world ? Are you also thinking on the same lines ? See Jesus Christ when denied the Quran by Allah, saying that it was reserved for Muhammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) requested Allah to raise him up and send him again when the Holy Quran was on Earth. To this Allah agreed. He would return as a muslim. Did Jesus Christ know something more than what the pope thinks. Prophet Muhammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) predicted that when Jesus christ returned the whole world would see and listen to Him. 1400 yrs ago was this imaginable ? Now we can understand how this is possible. Secondly, Prophet Muhammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) also told that Jesus Christ would return on…

these people were not any prophets or holy persons.They never fought any war in the name of god or religion. They were politically engaged .they are now no more exists today.Ashoka was not a religious person he never fought in the name of god or religon.He embraced buddhism due to ethically . But Muslims are motivated in the name of religion and are killing innocent people.Who told Muslims to attack Persia,Egypt,Spain,Afghanistan,India.Your caliphs were like gangsters who massacred the population and enslaved the female and children.See ithttp://www.historyofjihad.org there are many verses in quran which indicates hate and discrimination towards non-believers, Muslims are people who divide the people,world, things on the lines of religion.quran indicates violence see it [2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[4.56] (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

[5.38] And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

[5.86] And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, these are the companions of the flame.

[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in…

@Prithvi says: December 26, 2011 at 7:12 am I don’t know from where you learn this habbit of applying war time principles during peaceful times ! ( porbably your aim is to criticise only). Phir bhi jo paida kar sakta hai, aur jo-kuch achchey cheezay hain daey sakta hai woh bahtu kuch cheen bhi sakta hai. Allah jo chate hain karte hain. There is no one who can stop Him once He decides on something. Allah has said He is Most Merciful, but He has also said that, He is strict in punishment.

@Prithvi says: December 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm contd… Secondly, Prophet Muhammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) also told that Jesus Christ would return on Friday the auspicious day for muslims. Incidentally, Allah choose to also lift Jesus Christ on Friday only. (Can you see the correlation ). Why he did not leave this world on sunday. Jesus Christ preached christianity for a short period and that Bible was written a long time after he left this earth. There are inconsistencies in the Bible. Quran gives the Criterion to judge the difference between right and wrong. How to obtain Allahs mercy. How to obtain pardon. Besides it is a book of power. The list is very very long. I have just mentioned few.

@Prithvi says: December 25, 2011 at 9:10 am There is a saying ‘badh achcha badnam burra’ The media highlights what happens in muslim countries only. You will be surprised to know that in 1970s times reported that a murder happens in India every 30s now that figure is astounding, it goes for other crimes also, which go unreported. There are other forms of terrorism such as economic terrorism, emotional terrorism, socail terrorism …. the list is long. These are not highlighted. Because others are doing them they are not seen as evil, these are silent killers.

@Bagyaraj says: December 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm Bro it is not surprising that again you are telling lies, you have a habit of blaming muslims for your own fallacies, suttee, custom of wife burning with the funeral pyre of the husband, derived is from the word sati who was wife of shiva, Practice of performing suttee was practised from time of Mahabharat ! ( I hope you are not saying that muslims were responsible for mahabharat also ! ) The custom was named after sati wife of shiva who committed suicide because her father insulted her husband. Sati means ‘chaste women’ or ‘good women’. It is custom used to be followed by Brahmins. Such blatant lies you are concocting, thats your style and method ? Look during times of war definitely atrocities were committed by invaders. These atrocities were committed from both sides, who started them we cannot know. As such people coming from Afghanistan side were not refined. But you can’t blame Islam for it. How you concoct lies as seen above in case of suttee, the story of muslims being oppressive may also be concocted. Because someones childhood was abusive does not mean he spoils his adult or future life because of it. By being so against Islam you only harm yourself in the long run.

@Atoze says:December 24, 2011 at 11:42 pm What i referred you can find in the UGC approved history texts. You are referring to some of the religious books which is adulterated by western Indologists.Even if it is in religious book the story does not mean or give any message to jump in to fire when husband died.Any way the origin of Sathi shown in any authentic history books is from mughal period and not from the time of Mahabharata. Please search yourself in the authentic sources and find out who(either the fake scholars or myself) is telling the lie.

You said “you can’t blame Islam for it”. I am not blaming Islam for that instead blaming only the people who do that following Quran blindly. You said”By being so against Islam you only harm yourself in the long run.”- I am not against Islam or Muslims but against the ignorance they are keeping in their life.

Everyone, Pls see these videos for knowing science behind India. Spread the word to as many as you can. Increase awareness about the greatness of OUR motherland India. India is motherland of everyone. To this great region, even Albert Einstein calls motherland. Even Romain Rolland and Louis Joccolliot praise a lot. There are many evidences & at least 1000 valuable minds bowed down. Thanks to Indian legends who made it respectable under minds of others…

Slim Shaikh, hav u enjoyed the shouting of momin lion? Lol. Do u believe on Quran? If u do u r a superstitious. Proof- Al Quran Sura- Al Faatihah ch.1 v.3. – ”Who believe in the Unseen(i.e. superstition), are steadfast in prayer, and spend out what We have provided for them”. Now you tell aren’t u superstitious?

It shows you are an absurd at a first place and an ignorant of the second place. Islam does not mean ”peace”……. It means ”Submission”. And it demands everyone to be submissive to Allah and his last prophet(pbuh) and final prophet (zakir bhai)….. Lol

Every now and then you come on here to provide comic relief and get your ass whooped.

This is sign of decency in Islam.

If prevention of “sexual thoughts” is sign of decency in Islam, why does Allah provide 72 virgins in Jannat? Will the 72 virgins be cooking food in the kitchen all day long? What if you go out in Jannat from wherever your home is and dont come back for a few days? Some of these lovely damsels may get aroused by each other and engage in lesbo girl on girl action. Will Allah smite them from heaven to hell?

Spirit you have asked for me to reply to your question on agniveer on the site satyagni.com. Spirit I was shocked to read what have you been writing. Spirit do you know the meaning of the word Muhammad. It means ‘The praised one’. There is a Hadith which says what the Prophet Muhammad ( may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny) said about people who would say bad things about him. You are learned person please refer to that Hadith. At least muslims know that Hadith !

But KUran and allah have not said the truths.They both have given rise to terrorists on this earth.If Islam really means peace then why do the Muslims fight with the hindus?Why did Hindu and muslim war happened in India?Why did danga took place in 1989 in which Muslims killed too much Hindus?Why do Muslims cut animals if Islam means peace?Why Muslims cut other humans in the name of religion?Why?WHy? why?

You are forgetting, for Islam peace is output of WAR. THE ULTIMATE IDIOTS like Muslim Slaves, Atoze, sultans etc. know only 1 way to support peace. Kill 1000, burn 1000 houses and rape 1000 – then world will have peace. A deadly massacre creates peace. A Muslim enters Paradise (so called Jannat) by sending everyone else to hell (i.e., sufferings) – this was proved by George Bernard Shaw – Oscar winner Nobel Laureate. If someone asks, OUT OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM, WHICH IS BETTER? No doubt every sensible will point towards Christianity. (Vedas are the best though. Islam being the worst no matter whichever faith it is compared with.) 50% humans in the world are evil minded and another 30% being total idiots. No surprise, Islam is fastest growing religion in the world (among those). Mohammed used religion / faith for his personal gain. All great thinkers have concluded this but no Muslim accepts this. This proves that Islam is religion of evil minded people AND / OR idiots. Quincy Adams has declared that freeing a muslim from Islam is the biggest service that can be offered to him. Other scholars comment that Islam is backward thinking promoted by a backward religion. Vinay Arya brother, Let’s unite humans to fight with this CULT OF SATAN. So that peace can be restored in its pure form not a consequence of stupid war which Quran promotes.

If the Muslims really want to praise Quran, they should not do it here. This is indeed neither the right way nor the right platform. We are ready to accept that Quran is the best book. Just tell us names of 50 scientists and 50 great philosophers who made Quran as their references. You cannot count Arabic Mathematicians as they were not alive when Quran was made nor the Mohammed. Quran was written after his death. Now, start counting. AND YES, NO MUSLIM SHALL EVER REPLY WITHOUT COUNTING.

god is great you are right see these jihadis how they are talking illogically, muslims are of same category comes under brainwashing, i have seen the blog of Mushafiq Sultan who is an agent of arab wants to make great vedic india into a uncivilised area.See all the islamic websites which contains only stupid claims of miracles and lacks logic, i have talked with many muslims who talks illogically and thinks about only religion or else nothing. whats your reply?

@ GOD IS GREAT & Vinay Arya, Sorry to share my opinion on this.The best way to attain peace and to protect dharma in our country where majority are Hindus is to educate people by giving proper knowledge of our heritage. Teach our children and the coming generation about our sceintific heritage. Learn and teach the science behind the customs and rituals which is practiced.(For eg:- “Do not keep the direction of the head towards north” Reason – the magnetic meridian of the earth retards the blood flow though brain capillaries and affect the functioning of brain cells.). Like this each and every custom and ritual should be explained with its reason. Regarding Muslims – It is not an easy thing to destroy old tendencies.So for them it will take a long time to realize the fact.Don’t worry about that because the world is turning to India. The world is looking for the knowledge like Ayurveda, yoga, music, dance, Sanskrit, Vedas, management, Gita, Indian food, Indian family system, Vedic mathematics, the concept of god, the use of achaaras, the yama and niyamaas, the economical concept of Chanakya, the management principles of Gita, the Gurukula method of learning and many such knowledge.Even the staunch Muslims started coming to Indian way of living in many Islamic nations.Here in our nation also this will happen and only what we need to do is to educate people our heritage.

Bagyaraj Sir, You need not be sorry. Actually, what you are saying is much more logical compared to any other commenter. If we don’t know what is great in our own culture, how can we expect others to know that? Just seen a video – would request you (and others too) to see. Quantum physics is derived totally from Vedanta (Even Erwin Schrodinger accepted that). What more to say when scientists of CERN, Geneva declared that a cosmic dance of energy occurs within each atom – that dance is TANDAVA by lord Nataraja. Scientists have 2.5 m tall Nataraj statue installed there as a proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IrLcqAYwpc (It is in 3 parts::: So, just click on corresponding links to see other 2) — You can also see Carl Sagan’s views on Hindu cosmology. Another series being Hinduism – scientifically proven religion. These mega videos proved that Only Solution For Modern Disaster Is India. Even Cambridge University switched towards Sanskrit. Homerton College is switching towards Adi Shankaracharya way of education. Interested scholars can read that. Thank you Bagyaraj Sir for this awakening.

Agniveer and patrons, why not you post articles explaining science behind Vedic rituals? Many people here are from scientific background and have their own blog / website. They can also explain science. If we have most precious gem with us (Vedas) why not tell others about that greatness. Please do so …

@ God is Great, Thank you for posting such a great video.We are gifted with such a nice platform (Agniveer) to learn and share our ideas for which we should appreciate Agniveer team.Many articles showing the science of Hinduism is posted in http://www.iish.org (A website created by Dr.N.Gopalakrishnan who was a scientist)and agniveer had already given the links of some of the articles published by IISH in his article”Science in Vedas”.

@Prithvi says: December 21, 2011 at 9:48 am Bro , Some of the posts on this site are never published, just because they will expose the fallacies in other religions, this site only stands for saying evil things about Islam. The moment something disturbing truths about other religion is written it will not be published. So no use writing on this site. Other people have expressed similar views. This site will better be called gagsatya-veer..com

@Prithvi says: December 24, 2011 at 9:54 am Why is it that hinduism needs to be improved for example eradication of sati, Hindus are themselves trying to improve hiduism. What is the this sati ancient terrorism

@ Atoze, Your Comment: – “Why is it that hinduism needs to be improved for example eradication of sati, Hindus are themselves trying to improve hiduism. What is the this sati ancient terrorism” Sathi is a duraachaar and such duraachaar is not mentioned in any of the authentic religious books of Hindus it need to be eradicated. It does not mean Hinduism need to be improved but Hindus need to be improved by rejecting these types of duraachaars. This is why it is eradicated and thus purified the Hindus who follow that bad practice.

Origin of the dirty custom Sathi Practicing sathi is unjustifiable but before Muslims making it as a weapon against Hinduism they should know how sathi originated in our great nation India. If you go through UGC approved text books of history you can find the reason for the origin of Sathi. During the Mugal rule of Mohammed Ghori and others they killed many men who refused to embrace Islam and those who fight against these foreigners for our country and the wives of these people were raped and killed brutally. To avoid this,- woman decided to die along with their husband which they found far better than raped and killed by the Mughal emperors and their military people. Gradually it becomes a custom and even after Mugal period it continued. Hindus themselves found later that this custom is bad and illogical and thus stopped it.

you jihadis only looks over the mistakes of other religions, while you will blind to your own errors.every religions have their own errors and flaws and they admit and reform it,see hinduism,christianity and judaism are improved, but your islam is still following the cult of 7th century uncivilised arab lizard eaters.by killing,bloodshedding you say islam is religion of peace, your beloved islamic countries saudi barbaria ,iran ,somalia are stoning women to death for adultery, is this the respect for women in islam? there are many cases of child molesting cases by imams and mullahs.muslims are killing innocent animals in qurbani in the name of myth prophet and god, is this humanity? first go and reform your islamic countries

Prithvi says: December 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm Bro, the custom of stoning unchaste women has been there for a longtime. (most major religions were given by God, His laws remain the same), Jesus christ saw such a women being prepared for stoning, so he went over there and said ‘ Let the first stone be cast by the person who had never sinned. So all the people turned and went away ! You have heard the saying ‘spare the rod and spoil the child.’ In Saudi Arabia, for any one person – the third instance of stealing after 2 warnings entails cutting off of one hand. The benefit of this law is that even jewellers need not close down their shop before going for regular prayers. No body dares to steal. It is not that only women are punished for adultery, both men and women are equally punished. It is for larger protection of society. What happens elsewhere is that abuses and Rapes are condoned as consensual sex. Often the Judge and the Lawyers laugh at the victim. The perpetrators of the crime are often powerful people and influence justice. Have you heard of a movie called – ‘No one killed jessica.’ I think in such cases modern reformed laws are abhorrent ! Please don’t point fingers. You are depicting imams as criminals, I think you should first refer to your own cupboard, It is full of skeletons. Why nobody says anything there, it is because everyone knows heart and heart what the truth is.

@Prithvi says: December 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm You reference to Qurbani… well I think you should refer to your own religion first. Every other day you read in the newpapers that human children are being offered as sacrifice to please dieties ! ( that too for small things) Sacrificing animals is part of vedic religion also. At least it better to sacrifice animals. They are compensated by a very fast birth rate. Besides. Allah has subject animals to human use. After all Man is Allahs vicegerent on earth. After all it is the creator who decides who lives and who dies. Or is it that you deny that also ? Also, (You will jump and deny this !) it is true that it is in your religion that, if a guest comes to your house and there is nothing to offer him to eat then you sacrifice the cow of the house in order to serve your guest !

Reply to Atoze says: December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am – HAVE SOME OBJECTION IN THE MENTIONED COMMENT Your Comment – “Every other day you read in the newpapers that human children are being offered as sacrifice to please dieties ! ( that too for small things)” May or may not be. Illiterate and uncultured people may do many heinous activities like this which is not a part of Hinduism or Vedic culture and not mentioned in any of the authentic Hindu scriptures. Any way these types of activities will be practiced only by 0.5 % of the people in the entire society and this also will be eradicated by time. I don’t understand how and where you get these types of news “every other day”.

Your Comment – “Sacrificing animals is part of Vedic religion also.” Sacrificing Animals is not a part of Vedic religion and even if it is the Hindus have all the right to reject it with out any fear of hell.

Your Comment – “At least it better to sacrifice animals. They are compensated by a very fast birth rate.” Sacrificing animal for satisfying the tongue is unjustifiable. “Fast birth rate” is a reason made by the non vegetarians to eat meat. There are a lot of animals and birds like elephant, horse, cat, crow, donkey etc which we do not kill. But they do not become over loaded and fill the earth. Even though there are laws against killing of tiger and lion, their numbers are considerably decreasing. Dinosaurs which lived before man became extinct completely by nature itself.

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am continued……….. Your Comment – “Besides. Allah has subject animals to human use. After all Man is Allahs vicegerent on earth.” The misunderstanding that man is the noblest of all creations and all the worldly pleasures are intended for men is the result of man’s own agitated mind. The universe certain nearly 16 lakhs variety of animals, lakhs of plant variety and lakhs of micro organic varieties. The min conception that all these are created only for human being is a challenge to nature itself. It cannot be denied that man is blessed with more reasoning power and intelligence than other animals. But nature has given each and every organism of some specialties which may not be given to human beings. Having some limited special qualities does not make man the noblest of all creation. A dog’s power to smell things the hearing capacity of a bat, the power of sight of a cat, the speed of a cheetah, the sharp vision of an eagle. The physical power of horse, the glow of a glow worm the sweet voice of the Cuckoo, the ability of a Parrot or Myna to speak in human language, the ability of camel to preserve water for days, the power of the humming bird of fly kilometers without rest, the memory power of bee which collects honey from a flower far away from its home, the immunity of animals against diseases, the power of the castle to find out the eatable grass………….are some of the qualities that the nature has given to animals. Man does not possess any of these qualities. Man also has a lot of limitations. A human child takes a long period to stand walk in its own legs. Without proper guidance it cannot differentiate between things which are eatable and not eatable. Man has to depend on others for building his own house preparing his food, to take treatment for a disease etc. Man who is moving away from nature is passing from more complex situation to a more complicated state. Man cannot resist variations in temperature rain etc. It is only the human beings who…

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am continued……….. It is only the human beings who purpose fully uses the dangerous toxic substances like alcohol, tobacco etc. In this universe no other living organism commits suicide. The only are creature that cannot live ever for an hour without depending on other organism is man. Then how can we say that man is the noblest of all creations?

Your Comment – “After all it is the creator who decides who lives and who dies. Or is it that you deny that also ?” This statement does not mean you can kill animals for satisfying your tongue because you can live in a very healthy manner with out killing animals. It means Allah did not wish to kill the other animals by human beings. If Allah wishes so Allah should give us the same body properties of a carnivorous animal. But as per science natural diet for human is vegetarian food. Some Evidences. • Our nails are flattened, and, unlike carnivores, we don’t have sharp, pointed teeth. • Both humans and herbivores have carbohydrate digestive enzymes in our saliva; while carnivores and omnivores don’t. • Most importantly, both the carnivores and the omnivores have a colon that is short, simple and smooth, and their stomach acidity is less than pH 1 with food in stomach; Humans, like herbivores, have a very long, complex and sacculated colon, and our stomach acidity is around pH 4 to 5. • Our long intestine length is designed for a high fiber diet (found only in plant food). Meat does not digest well in such an environment, and often turns toxic, which contributes to colon cancer. • Carnivores enjoy the act of savaging and the scent of blood. Sharks, for example, are highly aroused by the scent of blood. On the other hand, we cannot tolerate the sounds and cries of animals being killed, and the mere sight of blood is disturbing to us. • Some fake people misguided many by showing the sharp teeth of human beings but the sharp teeth for human is for chewing or breaking the hard type nuts, vegetables etc.

Reply to Atoze says:December 25, 2011 at 1:22 am continued……….. Your Comment – “Also, (You will jump and deny this !) it is true that it is in your religion that, if a guest comes to your house and there is nothing to offer him to eat then you sacrifice the cow of the house in order to serve your guest !” It may or may not happen in many houses or a few houses. It may be because of their ignorance and is unjustifiable. For a true Hindu “adhithi devo bhava” a guest had to be treated well. Treating well does not mean to kill animals and make them eat dead bodies and thus finally make their stomach a cemetery. That way of treating is a great insult and a slow poisoning which a true Hindu never practices.

@Vinay Arya says: December 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm bro arya you query why? why? why ? is not worth responding to but since you have specifically asked me, I am responding. Please find out where the inquiry into samjhauta express blast heading to ? Was there any thorough inquiry into 1989 strife you refer to. All most all terrorism is political. The beginning of so called ‘terrorism’ was from the jews who were fighting for creation of Israel. Now they are the people who are wailing about it the most. All terrorism has political overtones. Even bollywood movies have been made on this time and again. I overheard one rickshaw puller, who obviously was not very qualified degree holder, saying that all politicians are united on one point and that is to keep the people divided. ( In order to rule. )

atoze cutting of hands,stonig to death are only uncivilised and inhumanic which your muslim countries are following,there are many non-muslim countries where crime rate is low and there is no sharia law,no prophet or any religious person have implied this inhumanic cult on humans as your prophet implemented this cult.in case of adultery musllims always interfair in personal matter. i am not saying from my side there are many news on your mullahs and imams in paedophile and molestation and terrorism. muslims are migrating to non-muslim countries for better life. human sacrifice are blind faith which are now slowly eradicating from the society and there is no mention of human sacrifice in hindu scriptures. beef in hindu scriptures are propaganda of your muslims .you muslims always denies own fault and gives justification

where are you collecting these copy pastblies from your pakistani blogs.you said sacrificing animals is better than human sacrifice human sacrifice is man made cult which is not mentioned in any scriptures. almost extinct .by killing animals you want to say that muslims are nothing but butchers and sadistics.i have heard myself from dreaded muslim who said they can kill anybody whether it is human or animal.they consider non-muslims are animals so they can also chop him any time. your religion of peace have crossed milestones in killing ,terrorism and arsoning.see the contribution of peace in world by islamhttp://www.thereligionofpeace.comhttp://www.faithfreedom.orghttp://www.wikiislam.net

Dear Atoze Your starting lines do not make me understand anything.However,you couldn’t understand me.I want to say that if Muslims love peace then why did they indulge in dungas many times in India and killed laks of Hindus.You give reason to be political.Can you make me understand how?Even if the reason is political then the question arise,if Muslims love peace then why did they indulge in dungas?You say that terrorosts are output of Jews,even then the question aire,why are the most of the terrorists are Muslims?

@Vinay Arya says: December 25, 2011 at 10:14 am so the cambodians, vietnamese, tamil tigers, Maoists, Northeast liberation front fighters, Serbians were/are all muslims. Why dungas never happened when muslims ruled India. Had muslims killed lakhs during their rule where would you have been today. All you say lacks credibility.

So,please,you are unaware about the history of India,you should read the history books.Many history books clearly indicate how Muslims killed the innocent hindus.If you are yet not accepting then please read my family’s history:

During the Muslim period we used to live near Pakistan.We were cowards at that time.Muslim men and Mullas covered my family and said :Become a Muslim or get cut into pieces.Due to fear of death they got converted into Muslims.But when a man got birth on this earth everything got changed.Whom you hate too much.We were converted into hindus back by some organisation which was greatest at that time.According to my forefathers,MUslims used to cut us into pieces.Some used to eat human meat.Dead bodies used to lay as if destruction has happened.

@KB/Vinay/Bharmit/Bhagyraj/atoze Atoze Brother you are doing very good work for Islam. Islam means peace. Islam never produce any terrorist. Whatever organization in world like Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam. & There is nothing wrong in these organizations they are acting in line of Quran. & it is prime most duty of every Muslim or good heated man to support them for the cause of religion. Today Muslim are in very bad condition in India. Muslim can not be in power unless they do not demand separate country for themselves based on Islamic laws as mentioned in Quran. Political parties in India doing exploitation of Muslim.

slave sheikh don’t talk non-sense, if muslims are in bad conditions in india then how muslims are in cinema, business, politics, sports and other fields, how muslims are getting hajj subsidies in india? how 3 muslims become presidents of india? how there are so many muslim organisations how there are waqf board and AIMPLB Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim- majority J&K? If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah? If the communal riots is due to RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal, etc. why there are riots in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Chechhnya, China, Russia, UK, France, Spain, Cyprus, etc. – where there is no RSS/VHP.

if you have really problem then go out from india , there are 53 muslim countries .

Slim Shaikh says:December 25, 2011 at 11:53 am 1) What is the meaning of peace as per Islam? How it can be attained? 2) If Islam means peace why you need to “fight” for a true religion? Will fighting means or attain peace? 3) Why Muslims targeting to offer Heaven to Hindus? Why can’t you let Hindus to enjoy in hell with great personalities, scientists and Rishies? 4) How the Organizations you mentioned who are intended to kill many people can be justified? Is this is called as peace in Islam? 5) The entire world except a small % calls the activities of the above mentioned organizations as terrorist activities. Can you justify them as true Muslims? Why? 6) If Allah is the true god why human beings need to protect him and his teaching by killing the nonbelievers? 7) When the picture/ narration /stories/ incidents of Quran are subject to critical evaluation, why Muslims becomes violent? Why you need to protect god? 8) If Quran is true why questioning is not allowed? 9) Why apostates should be killed? Is there any hidden practice in Islam which should not be exposed? 10) After all what is the purpose of religion?

You are noble Slim SHaikh as you have said :Whatever organization in world like Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam. & There is nothing wrong in these organizations they are acting in line of Quran

@Vinay Arya ____________Slim Shakh accepts that Muslims are producing terrorists_______________ Where I said this? Read my post againhttp://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-62568 I said only Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Toiba ,Jaish-e-Mohammed, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami, Muslim Mujahideen etc. are group of noble/true people who are fighting for true religion e.i. Islam. You are demeaning these groups who are fighting only for Islam against those who do not believe in Islam & act against its teaching. As Bhagat Singh, Subhash Chandra Bose, Chander Shakhar Aazad were fighting for freedom against Britishers same these Muslim organization are fighting for Islam.

@ Tariq, Why Agniveer had to come for the online class from such fools? Agniveer had enough knowledge on the contents of Quran. Agniveer had already invited Zakir naik for a debate which is not replied still.A debate is required and not a study class,for that agniveer is not a student.Tell your Zakir Naik or whoever fools to have a debate with Agniveer.

Tariq, refuting Agniveer is a big goal. A dog barks at elephant and elephant does not react. Dog assumes that elephant is weak to react. Dog does not know that the creature he is fighting with is the biggest mammal on Earth. Elephant never reacts because he knows that dog cannot do anything bad. The fact is that a single blow of elephant is sufficient to transport dog to some other planet. Its nobility of that mammoth creature not to react on Dog. Dog assumes elephant is weak and enjoys his “SO CALLED VICTORY.”

Same concept applies here: Sultan does not know that his opponent is a champion who does not need reacting to every joker claims. Agniveer is noble – that’s why he is not reacting. Reacting to every bark of dog is job of another dog not of a higher order personality. Let that dog Sultan celebrate his “SO CALLED VICTORY”.

Reply to, भ्रमित says: December 20, 2011 at 3:22 pm The Translation and interpretation given by pickthall, who is an apparent convertee (from a jew or christian faith ), of the Holy Quran in english is for gullible people who do not know Arabic. He uses wrong translation to discredit the Quran. This translation of the Quran the Muslims have rejected. It is the favourite translation of the Quran for the Jews and Christians. You can understand the reason. It seems to be a conspiracy. They cannot change the Arabic Quran so they have changed the Translation. भ्रमित like innocent people are falling prey to it. Those people who are advocating pickthalls translation are misguiding people from Islam and are only achieving their Goal to some extent. These people will never refer to other translations, their folly would be immediately become evident. So brother don’t fall into thier mechanisms.

atoze muslims themselves says they will kill anybody who dares to criticise their religion, you muslims always denies your own atrocities and blames on jews,in 21st century you are talking illogically about hellfire how many people have seen hell and heaven?,in every muslim countries religious minorities are being persecuted and treated like crap to whom you people denied it and cries on pseudo muslim persecution in other countries.in europe muslims are comiting crimes and terror and shouting for islamisation.

Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111: Narrated ‘Aisha: The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah’s Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, “I do not know how to read.” (The Prophet added), “The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, “I do not know how to read,” whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, “I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?).” Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, “Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous…up to….. ..that which he knew not.” (96.15) (parts before omitted because it was too long) But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, “O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah’s Apostle in truth” whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach…

the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn ‘Abbas said regarding the meaning of: ‘He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)’ (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).

1) Concerning the first part – The start of Islam a) Why would an all-knowing deity ask an illiterate man to read? b) Why does the spirit tell us that man was created from blood clots when it’s not true? c) If this spirit “taught by the pen what men did not know,” where are those words? d) And why digress to an oral recital when written testimony is superior? e) Why gloat, saying he’s generous – in what way and to whom? f) But the real question is: if this spirit “taught by the pen what men did not know,” where are those words?

2) Why was Mohammad suicidal? a) When someone dies, do thoughts of suicide normally overtake someone? b) Does this preclude Mohammad from being a prophet, because no prophet before was ever suicidal? c) How many times did Gabriel go to Mohammad to tell him he was Allah’s messenger? d) Does the fact that Gabriel had to tell Mohammad more than 1 time he was Allah’s messenger mean that Gabriel was not very convincing? e) Or that Mohammad did not believe a spirit who nearly crushed the life out of him, and asked him (an illiterate man to read)?

4) Another argument that exists is that if Prophet Muhammad was truly inspired by Satan then Satan would order him to jump and kill him self just like how he tried to do with Jesus, Mathew 4:6-7 http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B40C004.htm a) First of all, Satan was testing whether Jesus was the Son of God, to which Jesus replied Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. b) If Satan wanted Jesus to commit suicide, it would be understandable because Jesus brought the Golden rule “Love thy neighbour as yourself” i) Is this message compatible with Satan and evil? c) Would Satan want Mohammad to commit suicide after all the things he brought forth to the Muslim world? (See question 3 above) 5) Why would Bukhari include this verse? a) It;s not a very good start for any religion? b) Was it to show that Mohammad was a fraud?

Quran / Islam is Christianity redefined. Each and every Islamic faith is Christianity inbuilt. There is some mixing with Mohammed’s idiotic beliefs. Thus, original message is unknown. Islam only includes what is not to be done as per Christianity. Look, Jesus supported peace. He came for others and died for others. Mohammed supported war to promote peace. The Islam only believes in using war to find peace. Peace is achieved for a SO CALLED IDIOT SECT – Momin by murdering 1000s; raping 100s and terrorizing nations. Look at terrorism organizations: Al Qaeda, Taliban, Lashkar e Taiyyeba – they all run by Muslims.

Brother, the biggest service to a human is to ensure that Islam is destroyed. Let’s take the initiative to wipe out this sect of SATAN from this planet. WHEN 1000 SATANS DIE, MOHAMMED CAME INTO THE WORLD, WHEN 1000 MOHAMMED DIED, 1 HITLER ARRIVED, WHEN 1000 HITLERS DIED, A MUSLIM GETS BIRTH.

Teach this idiots that they are against GOD. Expose the myth of Allah being comparable to Lord GOD. Death of false religion Islam is truly following of Christianity. Do this as a service to true messenger Jesus.

It seems that you know this guy well. There are many innocents then. To how many will you preach truth?? Instead, tell him real Quran. That would be better. Since, you know Pickthal, tell him that you are wrong and Mohammed is right. Don’t comment here – comment on his website and prove him wrong. That would be right initiative.

Allah has kept for himself the power to create. He gave it to no one. He gave some people miracles but no one the power to create. Allah had said in the Holy Quran that “look around yourself this is the world He has created, have those whom you worship, besides Allah, created anything”. If God had come himself on this earth would He not have left something behind that He created. There is no History of any one creating anything. Allah continues to create. Science tells us that stars are still being born. Allah has said in the Holy Quran that it is Allah who creates the vastness of space. ( creates ! He did not say He created. We know from science that the universe is still expanding after the Big Bang !). I’m no authority on the Quran but this is just a word of caution for those who are opinionated ! Brother, Allah is Lord of the Universe not Lord of the Muslims. The Quran Begins ” All Praise belongs to Allah Lord of the Universe ! So brother help yourself, ask God for Guidance. You cannot think anything else except what Allah wants. Whom Allah leaves to stray there is no guidance for him. It is amazing as to why there are so many receptors and chemicals in the Brain. So you see how much manipulation and control is possible for Allah. He has fine tuned it over the evolution till he finally made Man. But your aim should be to recognize the truth , Holy Quran is not a science book, It was given to Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ), who was sent as Mercy to Mankind. There are also amazing mathematical proofs in the Quran. I’m not going into them. What I have said already is enough for anyone to take notice. Though the tone and tenor of arguments on this site is not encouaging to write into, yet because Allah has directed muslims to tell others about Islam I am doing so. (Now you know why also !)

If Allah has revealed Himself try to find out about it. The hindu scriptures are so old when there was no paper even. You use the latest Gadgets invented why not try to find out Allahs last message. Allah sent it. Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ) who brought it is no longer on earth but see what he left behind. Don’t go by what others are saying. There is a lot of politics and vested interests in what others are saying. Humans are born with zero knowledge, learn what the Creator may have revealed. Maybe your parents are not as lucky in Everything. Allah says in Quran “You Remember Me and I will remember you” (on the day of judgement ). He is the Master of the Day of Judgement. The heaven is there for a Reward. Allah has said that He has the power to gather you together for the Day of Judgement. He has also said that there is “no escape from Allah”.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached – Manuel II Palaiologos Byzantine emperor

That is a simple rule, and easy to remember. When I, a thoughtful and unblessed Presbyterian, examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane; not in all things, but in religious matters. – Mark Twain American Author

Islam deserves criticism on account of the logical consequences of its dogma, namely, that the murder of fellow human beings is to be rewarded with sensual pleasure in a hedonistic “Paradise”—a concept born in the fantasies of an Arab rebel some fourteen centuries ago. The religion of Mohammed is a dangerous system when the teachings and example of the “prophet” are believed and followed. – Clinton Richard Dawkins British scientist

If the people of this religion [Islam] are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed – Abu bakr Mohammed Al Razi Muslim scholar

Why follow that sect to which no valuable person support? (All great minds conclude: THE ONLY PERSON TO USE RELIGION FOR PERSONAL GAIN WAS MOHAMMED.) Convert to Christianity at least if you cannot manage what Vedas say. Otherwise, you continue on your journey to stupidity. After all, stupidity cannot be controlled beyond some limit

We know that it would be very remote that all the 10 finger prints of any two persons be the same and even if it were in all the mankind assembled on the day of judgement, in any such case then their parents finger prints will not be the same. Allah had said that he made the Sun on the fourth day of Creation. Science tells us that the universe is nearly 15 Billion years old and the Sun is 5 billion years old. Considering that, One day of Allah is roughly 2.5 Billion years. So Allah is in no hurry. You may say any Nonsense against Allah and his messengers He would not take any action in a hurry, When the time of Repentence is past then after that there is no Pardon. He has said when he willeth a peoples punishment then After that there can be no turning it Back. Ater the day of Judgement, when all the people who have sinned but have died as believers and have recieved their punishment ( which may run into millions of years for some ) they will ultimately be out of Hell. Then Allah will address the unbelievers in Hell one last time and ask them “Did not anyone warn You About Me”. After that Allah will not look at them ever. They will live in Hell for ever. There are Seven Levels in Hell. Why give proofs to Allah against yourself

—–Allah had said that he made the Sun on the fourth day of Creation. Science tells us that the universe is nearly 15 Billion years old and the Sun is 5 billion years old. Considering that, One day of Allah is roughly 2.5 Billion years.——–

Now you are demeaning your Allah not me. See how much slow your Allah is!!!!!!! The sacred which you call omnipotent needs 6 days (according to his time) but 15 billion years (according to our time)!!!!!! E—N—-J—-O—–Y

Another fault is there8). You said ——Science tells us that the universe is nearly 15 Billion years old and the Sun is 5 billion years old——–. ok lets agree with you in this point. But your previous statement falls miserably. Science says (according to you) the universe is 15 billion years old. Science did not say, ” It needed 15 billion years to form the universe.” So how can your fairytales of 6 days= 15 billion years would be applicable here?????? Please, if you have a drop of knowledge, explain!!!! 🙂

—–Then Allah will address the unbelievers in Hell one last time and ask them “Did not anyone warn You About Me”. After that Allah will not look at them ever. They will live in Hell for ever. There are Seven Levels in Hell. Why give proofs to Allah against yourself——- Stop your fairytale………..

@Spirit & KB We (MUslim) are not like you who promote vulgar & obscenity. This is done only to control the mind of females from negative thinking. This is greatness of Islam. Thanks to you for the publicity of this Fatwa. This is sign of decency in Islam. Why do your Hindu girls getting pregnant before marriage & Why do married girls commit adultery in Hindus? This Fatwa will refrain Muslim girls committing such immoral act like getting pregnant before marriage and committing adultery. Sprite Brother continue your nonsense stuff. You are doing publicity for us.http://agniveer.com/479/prophet-puran/#comment-61888

Muslim women are very much oppressed. They must bring 4 eye witness to prove they have been raped. Now tell is this moral??? What if she can’t manage 4 eye witness???? If she can’t manage in the court she would be stoned till death. Don’t open my mouth. Muslim women are also very abusive. They are ready to live a cat’s life with their momin husband. Because they have been prescribed to live this way in Holy Quran Ch4 V.34. Moreover prophet said that Good women do not complain. How many of you enjoying those sacred lines…………???

@KB ___________So, dont be stuck in the 7th century Arabian desert_________ Do you know word “Islam” meaning? Islam is a Arabic word which means peace. & Prophet Mohamad made laws of this peaceful religion & Laws which promote peace are applicable in all ages. If Islam means peace how can it be religion of violence & nonsense laws? Do some study before posting your nonsense stuff here. I think, I am talking with a child of 5th standard.

Chess was declared haraam for the benefit of a Momin only. Don’t you know Kalbhairav brother that playing Chess requires lot of Brain and thinking? From where a Momin will borrow brain? He can’t do that from a Christian NOR from a Jew as Mohammed made them enemy of a Muslim. Forget about Momin demanding brain from a Hindu / Buddhist. Due to love of idiot Arabics towards slavery, even Africans won’t give brain. A Momin can only borrow brain from another Momin. But, it again points to same question – do Momins have brain? DEFINITELY NOT; otherwise Mohammed won’t select a donkey as his vehicle. IF A MOMIN HAD BRAIN, HE WON’T BE MUSLIM FIRST OF ALL.

There is one religion in the world that kills you when you disagree with them and they say ‘look, we are a religion of peace and if you disagree we’ll f**king cut your head off, and nobody calls them on it — there are very few people that will call them on it. – American poet, Bill Maher

US former Prez John Qunicy Adams said – In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.

To all who want to know the Truth and also those who are so opinionated : God has kept himself hidden because this life is an exam so you have to recognize an unseen God. On the day of Judgement some people will be blind. They will ask God why they are blind . So Allah will say you are blind because you failed to recognize Me. Even so, in his infinite mercy he has given a chance to learned people to read and find their way to God. He has even sent messages to guide them while not showing himself. Some of proofs of the truth of the messages you will discover science will help you understand. I have heard there are some One thousand scientific facts in the Holy Quran. Some are discussed earlier. I want to draw your attention to the some not mentioned earlier which will put to rest a Lot of Controversy. People around the Prophet Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ) asked him to find out from Allah whether He recognized each human being Individually. So upon asking Allah replied that “He knows you by the tips of your fingers”. Even Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny )did not know what Allah meant by that at that time. Human beings discovered finger prints in 1880 and by 1890 it was an established science (as per encyclopedia Britannica ). So Now we can understand what Allah meant when he said that he knows you by your the tips of your fingers. Because He has made it He knows best. He did not say that He only knows you by your faces. Your genes decide what is on your finger tips. See what Allah is revealing ?! Further the people asked Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ) to find out from Allah whether the people will be restored for the Day Of Judgement as they are over here. So Allah Replied a He will not only restore you as you are He will also make the Finger tips the same ! ( meaning fingerprints the same ). Twice he has mentioned finger prints. ( No other scripture mentions about this ).

Let’s refute your post step by step 8) —–God has kept himself hidden because this life is an exam so you have to recognize an unseen God——— Why God needs to hide himself buddy?? Isn’t it utterly dumb of you? If God hides himself where is my fault that I dont recognize him? The final words you used “unseen God”. Sorry to say believing in unseen is superstition. And I am not superstitious. ——-On the day of Judgement some people will be blind. They will ask God why they are blind . So Allah will say you are blind because you failed to recognize Me. Even so, in his infinite mercy he has given a chance to learned people to read and find their way to God. He has even sent messages to guide them while not showing himself. Some of proofs of the truth of the messages you will discover science will help you understand————–

On the day of judgment you will be bind because you didnt recognize me (spirit) as God. You will ask why you are blind. I will say because you failed to recognize me via internet. So do you accept me as God????????? 🙂 —–I have heard there are some One thousand scientific facts in the Holy Quran. Some are discussed earlier. I want to draw your attention to the some not mentioned earlier which will put to rest a Lot of Controversy.—– Show me a single scientific phenomenon on Quran (not like as sun shines or rain falls). Believe me brother I shall refute all your scientific facts on quran.

——Human beings discovered finger prints in 1880 and by 1890 it was an established science (as per encyclopedia Britannica ). So Now we can understand what Allah meant when he said that he knows you by your the tips of your fingers—— Give me the actual reference without adulteration. Why your Allah did not talk about DNA then???? It would have been more accurate!!!!!!! 🙂 Now ask me if I know everyone individually of the world. I will say I know everyone with tips of finger and DNA sequel. Does that make me God?????

To all who want to know the Truth and also those who are so opinionated : God has kept himself hidden because this life is an exam so you have to recognize an unseen God. On the day of Judgement some people will be blind. They will ask God why they are blind . So Allah will say you are blind because you failed to recognize Me. Even so, in his infinite mercy he has given a chance to learned people to read and find their way to God. He has even sent messages to guide them while not showing himself. Some of proofs of the truth of the messages you will discover science will help you understand. I have heard there are some One thousand scientific facts in the Holy Quran. Some are discussed earlier. I want to draw your attention to the some not mentioned earlier which will put to rest a Lot of Controversy. People around the Prophet Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ) asked him to find out from Allah whether He recognized each human being Individually. So upon asking Allah replied that “He knows you by the tips of your fingers”. Even Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny )did not know what Allah meant by that at that time. Human beings discovered finger prints in 1880 and by 1990 it was an established science (as per encyclopedia Britannica ). So Now we can understand what Allah meant when he said that he knows you by your the tips of your fingers. Because He has made it He knows best. He did not say that He only knows you by your faces. Your genes decide what is on your finger tips. See what Allah is revealing ?! Further the people asked Mohammad (may Allah send his blessings on him and his progeny ) to find out from Allah whether the people will be restored for the Day Of Judgement as they are over here. So Allah Replied a He will not only restore you as you are He will also make the Finger tips the same ! ( meaning fingerprints the same ). Twice he has mentioned finger prints. ( No other scripture mentions about this ). We know that it would be very remote…

Camel’s urine is efficacious in the treatment of skin diseases such as ringworm, tinea and abscesses, sores that may appear on the body and hair, and dry and wet ulcers. Camel’s urine brings the secondary benefits of making the hair lustrous and thick, and removing dandruff from the scalp. Camel’s milk is also beneficial in treating hepatitis, even if it has reached an advanced stage where medicine is unable to treat it. End quote.

In the al-Jazeerah al-Sa’oodiyyah newspaper (issue no. 10132, Rabee’ al-Awwal 1421 AH) there is a quotation from the book Al-Ibl Asraar wa i’jaaz (The camel: secrets and wonders) by Darmaan ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal Darmaan and Sanad ibn Mutlaq al-Subay’i:

As for camel’s urine, the book suggests that it has numerous uses which are beneficial for man. This is indicated by the Prophetic texts and confirmed by modern science … Scientific experiments have proven that camel’s urine has a lethal effect on the germs that cause many diseases.

Among the uses of camel’s urine, many women use it to wash their hair, to make it longer, and to make it lighter and more lustrous. Camel’s urine is also efficacious in the treatment of swelling of the liver and other diseases such as abscesses, sores that appear on the body and toothache, and for washing eyes. End quote.

Prof. Dr. ‘Abd al-Fattaah Mahmoud Idrees says: With regard to the benefits of camel’s urine in treating disease, Ibn Seena said in his Qanoon: The most beneficial of urine is the urine of the Bedouin camels known as najeeb. Camel’s urine is beneficial in treating al-hazaaz, and it was said that al-hazzaz is a pain in the heart caused by anger and so on. Camel’s urine, especially the urine of a young she-camel – is used as a cleansing substance to wash wounds and sores, to make the hair grow, to strengthen and thicken it and to prevent it falling out, and it is used to treat diseases of the scalp and dandruff. In a Master’s thesis by an engineer in applied chemistry, Muhammad Awhaaj Muhammad, that was submitted to the…

Hyder, at first tell me how do mountains stabilize earth? The engine of a train can be referred to mountain provided that train is supposed earth. So does engine stabilizes the train? Ur quran is against the laws of static dynamics. Al quran sura- Ambia (21) V. 21 says about big bang? The verse has at least three errors. Do u wanna see?

No problem. I just wonder why Zakir Naik and other Mullahs give just reference to some scientist??? Zakir Bhai is so brilliant!!!! Why does not he invent something with the help of the scientific verses of Quran??? The humanity would have been islam then.

I can disprove all the claims of mullahs about scientific facts of quran.

@Spirit,Prithvi,Truth Seeker etc…….. I asked you to show the same scientific facts in Veda and for that why you are getting angry.I know your Vedas doesn’t have such science in it.Don’t worry think well and come to the real truth – Islam

hyder your saudi religious leader in 1991 said that earth is flat as it mentioned in quran , those who will reject it will be considered as atheist and will be killed to know the science in hinduism visithttp://www.hinduwisdom.info

One of the biggest blunder in Quran – the Earth is FLAT and it repeatedly says so Surah 79:30 says Wa Al-Arda bada dhalika DaHaaHaa which means And the Earth after that He(Allah) Spread out like a Carpet and FLATTEN it.Wa(And) AL(The) Arda(Earth) bada dhalika(after that he(allah)) DAHAAHAA (Spread out like a carpet and Flatten) Some people misgude that Dahaahaa means – Ostrich Egg – Let us examine But The Arabic word for EGG is BAIDAH. And any word in Arabic for any egg and any word in Arabic for egg-shaped MUST have the word BAIDAH in it ! In Arabic, EGG is BAIDAH. EGG-SHAPE is BAIDAHWIYAH.The Arabic word for Ostrich is NA’AHMAH. And the word for Ostrich Egg is BAIDAH NA’AHMAH.And the concise meaning of “Dahaahaa” is “Spread out like a carpet and Flattened”. Go and check any well-respected Arabic dictionary.You can see what i said is true. Other Quotes:- 1. Sutehat: If you want to describe something as flat in Arabic then there is no better way than using this word. Sateh means flat, sutehat means flattened out. Q. 88:20 Nor even how the earth has been (sutehat) flattened out? 2. Bisata: also means flat. The Arabic word bisata means a flat sheet or a carpet. Q. 71: 19 And God has laid the earth for you as a (bisata) carpet 3. Madda: means stretched out until the object becomes flat, like what happens when you take a ball of dough and stretch it until it becomes flat. Q. 13:3 And He it is who hath (Madda) outstretched the earth, and placed on it the firm mountains Q. 15:19 And the earth have WE (Madadnaha, from madda) spread out Q. 50:6-7 What, have they not beheld heaven above them, how we have built it, and decked it out fair, and it has no cracks? And the earth — We (Madadnaha) stretched it forth… 4. Firasha: means a mattress,‘ as flat as a mattress’. Q. 2:22 Who made the earth a (Firasha) bed for you, and the heaven a roof Q. 51:48 And the earth we (Farashnaha, from firasha) have spread out, and how excellently do we spread it out! 5. Mahada: means a bed, which is flat. In Arabic…

5. Mahada: means a bed, which is flat. In Arabic you can describe something flat by comparing it to a bed. Q. 20:53 .. the One who has laid out the earth as a (Mahdan) carpet for you Q. 43:10 …has made for you the earth (Mahdan) like a carpet spread out Q. 78:6 Have We not made the earth as a (Mihada) bed, And the mountains as pegs 6. Tahaha: means flattened. Q. 91:5-6 By the heaven and that which built it and by the earth and that which (Tahaha) extended it! 7. Dahaha: means flat. Etc..Etc.. In Sura 15:19 (Al-Hajar), we read: “wal’arda madadnaha wa’alkayna feeha rawasi”. The word “madadnaha” is from the verb “madda”, which is a very simple and easy word to understand. Not even a little Arabic child would use this word to describe the shape of a watermelon or a ball. It is the most simple way to describe something flat. The Quran is full of junk science ! Source:- http://jesusallah.wordpress.com/

This video clinches the ultimate error of the quran: the flat earth concept. Beautifully made, it leaves no scope for a momin to come and declare ” see this is misinterpretation..this is the actual…blah blah.. ”

I accepted your challenge dear… But before i show you proofs, you must promise, you will accept Sanatan dharma. You have to give your complete bio data here. if you have face book account, use that. And If I show you one single scientific proof, you will update in your face book account that you have accepted Sanatan dharma. Are you ready ?

1. It says about Nuclear fission (!) because it says , “O believers say to the unbelievers that sun shines.” Ch. 420 V.420 2. It says about the shape of the earth, ” Do not the unbelievers see that we made the world as a football?” Ch. 1 V.1 3. Quran says about the speed of the light, ” The speed of the light will be regarded the most but in some 21st century it will be proven that nutreno has the most speed.” Ch.8 V.420 4. Quran invented the boat near the bank of Atlantic Sea Ch.21 V.30 .. .. I can go on and on. Really It is a book of science. And all the mullahs of the world whoever practises quran are great scientist. Aren’t they? Einstein, AryaBhatta, Newton, Hawkins, Darwin, Theles, every scientist was nothing but mullahs. Enjoy !!!!!!!!!!!

@hyder _________If no i request all of you to join the religion of peace – Islam___________ Brother, I would like to accept Islam but before this please answer me: 1. What was Allah doing before this universe creation?

what do you mean by same ? A scientific fact means a scientific fact. If a scientific fact is in Vedas (which are delivered to human right on the first day on earth), this is a proof that this is said by God directly to us.

In modern times, Scientists have discovered A recipe for milk in the cows … Where milk is made up of feed and food, who is in the belly of the cow … These materials then move to the udder and in addition to other materials such as blood glucose and proteins .. consists of milk in the end … But 1400 years ago God says [66] And verily! In the cattle, there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies, from between excretions and blood, pure milk; palatable to the drinkers. (al-naheel) Interpretation and Miracles MY LOVE, Messenger of God … Infidels accused you of insanity .. And science shows today You are the greatest psychiatrist … Because he received the revelation of the Creator of self In modern times, oh my god….. what scientists recently discovered .. Verse tell us the same precision that the composition of milk materials are in feed and blood together

Scientists have discovered Urine Bacon, the proportion of male infants in which bacteria are very few … But Bacon Urine, a female infant ratio of bacteria Much more so than the male Female baby …. The number of bacteria in the urine sample Male infant … The number of bacteria on a urine sample of only 2 But since 1400 years The Messenger 1 – Umm Qais : “she came with a small son did not eat food to the Prophet, peace be upon him ,the baby urinated on his clothes so he called for a water and he did not wash him, “narrated by Bukhari and Muslim, Abu Dawood and Ahmad. 2 – baby boy’s urine.. exudes, Current’s urine.. wash “Narrated by Imam Ahmad, 3 – “but exudes from male’s urine but female’s urine wash ” Narrated by Ahmad and Abu Dawood

Miracles and interpretation Conversations are clear, he has ordered us to wash laundering female ‘s urine … And sprinkle mentioned’s urine .. who is suggested to him that the female urine contaminated and must be washed with water? …. It is my Lord Creator of the female and male Message :- Companions did not understand the entire wisdom of this command, but they obeyed the Messenger We understand now … Unfortunately, if only we have 1% companions of faith

In modern times, some of the scientists explore .. The world, including the U.S., Dr. Weber, a psychologist in Miami in the United States That the moon affects too much on the rights … Especially in the days of its completion .. On 13, 14 and 15 This is because the human body 80% of water … And the power of the moon’s gravity can be severe in the days of its completion … Which affects the rights and behavior and mood .. Of course, studies of Western scholars were not fast to illustrate the wisdom of these days .. It is a very lengthy study of the impact of the moon on human … What concerns us is to the section on Day 13, 14 and 15 … Lighting: The moon is the cause of the tides .. Because it attracts water of the sea …. In the same way affect the water in our bodies

BUT 1400 years ago The Prophet said: Abu Hurayrah may god be pleased him said: “advised me to three: fasting three days of each month, and two bow at forenoon, and pray the Witr before I sleep.” Talk properly” Interpretation and Applications We did not know why the days 13 – 14 – 15, which specifically ordered by the Prophet peace be upon him to fast in these days? Now we understand that fasting will govern human behavior and make it more stable and calm, especially those with tendencies to depression … It will not affect the moon’s gravity to enjoy life

This research is not by the US or UK scientists oh learned man.. have you ever heard about Indian Astrology System ? The basis is on moon. And the reason cited in Vedas, being among the jyotish (those which shine in the sky), Sun affects all, among the planets earth affects all, and among the other heavenly bodies its moon.

Now say, who said this billions of years ago ? Is not it Al mighty God ??

In modern times, Scholars have stressed the following fields 1 – Sea salt does not mix with each other .. It facing them was not a barrier to see … This barrier is the density of each sea water, which prevent mixing with the sea the other .. 2 – Sea salt and fresh river also do not mix at all. Due to differences in water density Lighting: In order to understand the meaning of density … Put some oil in a cup of water .. Find the oil floats on water and do not mix, because of the different density 1400 years ago God said1 – Sea salt [19] He has let loosed the two seas (the salt and fresh water) meeting together. [20] Between them is a barrier which none of them can transgress. [21] Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinn and men) deny? [22] Out of them both come out pearl and coral. AL-RAHMAAN 2 – Sea salt and fresh river [53] And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water): one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them. (AL-FORQAN) Interpretation and bottoms Isthmus: its meaning barrier OH MY GOD … The Lord told us that the seas do not mix … As well as the river and the sea … Each with a water with a special nature .. Separated by barriers, including not see .. IT IS barriers density Message :- YOU who wants to see the stick of Musa moving until you believe … isn’t enough for you any sentence of the Qor’aan ?

Do you know what is the lowest region of the world ? In modern times,Shown pictures of geographical .. It is the area near the Dead Sea in Palestine, where below sea level in depth (392 meters But since 1400 years God said [1] Alif-Lâm-Mîm.[2] The Romans have been defeated.[3] In the nearer land (Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. (AL-ROM) Interpretation and Miracles the history books and interpretation says that the battle of the Roman and Persia took place in an area between Jordan and Palestine … So that’s why God said (lowest floor) Oh Messenger of God they said about you “poet” … Is it inspired poets to determine the lowest spot in the world to complement the house of the poem ?

Please hold Magnifying glass Proximity to your finger …What do you see? Fine lines are the fingerprint .. In 1892 proved to Dr “Francis Galton” (Francis Galton) This is the footprint and lines, which vary from person to person .. Can not be similar to 1400 years ago God says [3] Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?[4] Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers.(AL-QEIYAMA)

Interpretation and miracles

Location fingerprint Infidels denied that God can brings the bones of the human …. He answered them, Lord of the Worlds was capable of turning the collection by the finger, including the precise details of the footprint … It is not something easy because it varies from person to person

The sky such as the balloon expands and expands constantly .. In modern times, In 1929 occurred sensation when scientists discovered that the universe expands and grows … And size of the non-fixed .. Did not imagine this ever But since 1400 years God said [47] With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof. (AL-THORIYAT) Interpretation and Miracles You do not need to explain … The meaning is very clear … Sky expands Had the Quran from the imagination of the Prophet, who paid what to say to a man The age of ignorance that the sky is widening … Of course, will accuse him of insanity …!!

After the first man landed on the moon in 1969 .After many research on soil and satellite images Nasa discovered that the moon was a body burning And its surface is covered with volcanoes and lava … But cold.

1400 years ago God said [12] And We have appointed the night and the day as two Ayât (signs etc.). Then, We have obliterated the sign of the night (with darkness) while We have made the sign of day illuminating, that you may seek bounty from your Lord, and that you may know the number of the years and the reckoning. And We have explained everything (in detail) with full explanation. (AL-ESRAA)

Imaam Ibn Katheer in his explaination That Abdullah bin Abbas, may Allah be pleased him in this verse: “The moon shines light up as the sun, which is a sign of the night, but extinguished” the question is… Did the days of Prophet have spaceships landing on the moon or the Companion of the astronauts?

In modern times, Discovered in 1827 by a British scientist named Brown If the rain water that came down on the soil by the latest tremors shaking with Soil particles .. . That’s because the rain is causing electrical discharges When mixed with soil … granules get away from each other and act Allowing water to enter between the parts of the soil to grow plants

But since 1400 years God says And you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) on it, it is stirred (to life), and it swells and puts forth every lovely kind (of growth). Al-Hajj.

Interpretation and miracles My god … Do you see accuracy in choosing the Term stirred (shaken) …. Only now After 1400 Years, we could understand what the meaning of the earth shook, the rain To the alleged understanding … The question is ..Who learned the sheep shepherd these secrets?

So According to you, if any scientific fact is contained in any scripture, before the modern scientists, the book is words of God. In this connection Vedas are Words of God in your loginc too (We know the Vedas are emanated from God). Just for the starter, Rig Veda 1:164:11 द्वादशारं नहि तज्जराय वर्वर्ति चक्रं द्यामृतस्य | आ पुत्रा अग्ने मिथुनासो अत्र सप्त शतानिं विंशतिश्च तस्थुः ||

The wheel of the sun has TWELVE spokes. It is ever rotating and never halts. It never gets weakened. Oh Agnidev, in this wheel, SEVEN HUNDRED TWENTY children live.

This Richa explains the movement of earth around the Sun. Twelve spokes represent twelve months. 720 children represent 720 degrees. 360 degree a complete circle around the sun, and 360 degree around itself. Who said billions years ago that Earth moves around the sun and as well as around itself ? Who said billions years ago that one circle is 360 degree ? And most important, who said about the numbers billions years ago ? Is not it the Almighty God ?

Hyder, u got it wrong. Plz mention the successive mantras of every mantra those u mentioned. Ur english translation is weak. I again challenge u for a debate on quran . Do u accept? Ur quran will b proved wrong. Do u hav guts?

Meaning of om saanthi saanthi saanthi in Vedas The first saanthi is known as the peace within our body (aadhyaatmeeka saanthi). That is the biochemical system of the body functions peacefully. The second saanthi is the aadhiboudheeka saanthi, which is the peace around us, in family, in our house and in the offices where we work and the place where we occupy, even if it is for a meeting. Adhi devathaa saanthi, it is the third peace in the celestial bodies and celestial phenomenon like, wind, sun, moon, clouds, forest, mountains and so on. Thus for the peaceful life and existence of anything and everything on this earth there should be three types of saanthies. If anywhere, these three are violated, the life system will get disturbed and the system becomes imbalanced. The individual life, family life, social life and national life and international peace will be affected, if there exist a conflict among these.

Hyder, ur heaven is nothing than a brothel. Just imagine when ur momin father vl hav 72 houris how u ud feel abt ur father? How will ur mother think then? I m not trying to demean u. But these are problms vch islam cant solve. U raised qustions abt hinduism. I dnt believe in hinduism. I believe in humanity. And vedas r ultimate, pure and unchangable scriptures. U just copied from inauthentic source. Geting assurance of 72 houris may appeal to lacherous ppl but not to me.

Hey Idol Worshipers look what your Vedas says :- If Circumambulating and Kissing means Idol worship then the Vedas strictly commands to worship Idols Rig Veda 7.1.16 This is the Agni invoked in many places: Whom the prince, presenting oblations to, kindles, whom the ministrant priest circumambulates at sacrifices. Rig Veda 5.60.1 …circumambulating (the fire), may I exalt the praise of the Maruts. Rig Veda 4.6.4-5 …Agni, the offerer of the oblation, ancient and multiplying (the offerings) thrice circumambulates (the victim) like a keeper of cattle…Agni, the sacrifices, the exhilarator, the sweet spoken, the object of the sacrifice, moving measuredly, circumambulates (the victim) of his own (accord)… Rig Veda 10.80.5 With songs of praise the Rsis call on Agni; on Agni, heroes worsted in the foray. Birds flying in the region call on Agni around a thousand cattle Agni wanders. The above two verses says Agni circumambulated thousand cattle, Does that mean Agni worshipped cattle? [Horace] Rig Veda 1.144.1 The ministering priest, (qualified) by experience, and possessing exalted and graceful devotion, proceeds (to celebrate) his, (Agni’s), worship,having circumambulated (the altar), he takes up the ladles which are first to present the oblations. Rig Veda 10.114.4 With simple heart I have beheld him from anear: his Mother kisses him and he returns her kiss The Vedas talks about circumambulating Agni and other things, if circumambulation is worship then Arya Samajis are Idol worshipers because they circumambulate cattle, Maruts (Air), Agni etc. which are born out of Prakriti and we can touch and see them (except for air), Also if kissing is an act of worship then the Vedas says to worship son and mother as it talks about kiss between the mother and son+. According to Islamic perspective invoking other things besides Allah like invoking Stone, Fire, Earthly gods… is Shirk and the Vedas speaks about invoking Agni Rig Veda1.12.2 With callings ever they invoke Agni, Agni, Lord of the House,…

continued……. Rig Veda1.12.2 With callings ever they invoke Agni, Agni, Lord of the House, Oblation-bearer, much beloved Rig Veda 5.28.6 Invoke and worship Agni while the sacrificial rite proceeds… Rig Veda 3.26.2 That Agni, bright, Vaisvanara, we invoke for help, and Matarisvan worthy of the song of praise… Now some Hindus might argue that this is not Idol worship, Even if we admit this is not Idol worship as per definition given by Maharishi Agniveer of Agniveer Samaj then it is a major sin according to Yajur Veda 40.9 which says not to worship the things born out of Prakriti (Material, Nature, Matter…), And even a child knows Fire (Agni) is born out of Prakriti Sam Veda 1.1.1.9 When he enkindles Agni, man should with his heart attend the song:I kindle Agni till he glows.

According to the early Muslim scholars believing Allah is embodied is Idol worship[13] and Vedas speaks of organs of deities Rig Veda 1.62.12 Strong God, the riches which thy hands have holden from days… Atharva Veda 11.1.12 Rest in the roaring frame of wood: be parted from husk and chaff, ye Sacrificial Fibres. May we surpass in glory all our rivals. I cast beneath my feet the men who hate us. Yajur Veda 4.10 … Thou art the womb of Indra… Yajur Veda 11. 29 … the womb of Agni… Atharva Veda 3.13.4 One only God set foot on you flowing according to your will Rig Veda 1.82.6 With holy prayer I yoke thy long-maned pair of Bays: come hitherward; thou holdest them in both thy hands. Rig Veda 10.82.6 It rested set upon the Unborn’s navel, that One wherein abide all things existing. Rig Veda 10.90.12 The Brahman was his mouth, of both his arms was the Rajanya made. His thighs became the Vaisya, from his feet the Sudra was produced Rig Veda 4.32.23 Like two slight images of girls, unrobed, upon a new-wrought post, So shine the Bay Steeds in their course. This implies Idols were created during the Vedic period and could also be worshiped for concentration, This verse is used by the Orthodox Hindu scholars to show Idol…

Meaning:- Oh! Ved Vanni , you (Vrishch) cut down the person who criticizes [against] Vedas i.e., those who are against the Vedas. (Pra Vrishch) tear apart (Sam Vrishch) rip apart (Daha) burn (Pradaha) set on fire (Sam Daha) reduce to ashes. So, we must try our level best to know Vedic eternal philosophy which emanates directly from Almighty God. Vedas are not sects and hence are universally applicable to all mankind. Dharma is not made by human-beings. It has already been made by Almighty God in Vedas. Whether we accept or do not accept but truth prevails.

Here this Mantra signify that Monstrous who act against Veda teachings like Raavan, Kans, Duryodhan, Hitler, Mohamad, Osama, Kasab should be killed immediately. I challenge you please show me one thing in Veda which is wrong and should not be practiced.

@ Truth Seeker This means those who criticize Vedas should be killed in a very brutal manner.ie all Muslims,Christians and other people from other religion had to be killed as per Vedic god.This itself clearly prove that Vedas are not from god.Vedas clearly announce to its followers to kill those who don’t follow it.This is called terrorism and from this we can clearly say the god mentioned in Vedas is a terrorist. “I challenge you please show me one thing in Veda which is wrong and should not be practiced.” – The Atharvaveda mantra 12/5/62 is now proved to be wrong,illogical and unscientific. I challenge you to justify this and then we will have discussion about other religious books.If you can’t justify this don’t say Qur’an also has this that etc.

Dear Hyder, what you missed out is the word “Ved Vani”. And all those mentioned following will be done by Ved vani. Ved says how to deal with fire, if you fail to follow right path you will be burn to ashes. Similar for other ways of death mentioned in this verse. Enjoy reading.

I really do not understand, how he claims Moh. to be KalKi Avatar, when Kal-Yug has still not arrived. KalKi-Avatar is supposed to come at end of Kal-Yug. So I think Zakir Naik must be comparing Moh. to Kali-Maata, in that case he is saying Moh. was a female. Nice work, Zakir.

Zakir’s claim of Mohammed in Hindu scriptures brought be burst into laughter. That man, first translated the word “Narashamsa” as “Praise worthy”, then translated “Praise worthy” as ” Mohammed”. Fool, does not know, Mohammed was not the first or last man on earth with that name. My name is Akhila, means all, the best. It has many meanings and all the 99 names of Allah can safely be translated as Akhila. That means Quran says to pray me five times a day. Again my middle name is Chandra. And Mohammed went to moon to see Allah. So again its another proof.

Some one said Allah is unborn, so my claim is wrong. I asked him, “do you agree Allah can do anything ? ” he replied yes. Then I said, why cant Allah come as human on earth ? You are doing shrik….

Hyder Your Muhammad was a child molester. He was born in a primitive area of Saudi Arabia among the lacherous people. Muhammad didn’t even think about the problem of a girl child (aging his grand daughter) before thighing her. Now you and your dumber Naik would also legitimatize this………..

Enjoy the sacred texts of Sahi Muslims { (for you) but nothing but a scandal for me}

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310: ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65 Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88 Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Any body can explain why Bagavth Gita teaches to fight between the relatives for the land,money and girls? Any body can explain why in Mahabaratha Panjalay has 5 husbands.? Any body can explain why bali was killed by Rama when he was fighting with Sugreev? Any body can explain why sreekrishna having sex with radha before marriage? Any body can explain why sreekrishna have 1600 wives?

@ Hyder Any body can explain why Bagavth Gita teaches to fight between the relatives for the land,money and girls? Ans : -Bagavath Gita is the message of Karma.It is not fight between the relatives.But the story look like that.In fact Bharatha War is inside our self.Pandavas are the very few good qualities in us and Kouravas are the much more bad qualities.The whole Bagavath Gita teach us to kill all this bad qualities in you and make it to good qualities.If you read Bagavath Gita in this sense you will understand the essence of the book.In addition bagavath githa is a crisis management book too.

Any body can explain why in Mahabaratha Panjalay has 5 husbands.? Ans:- I don’t know the answer of this.I request any scholar here to irradiate your doubts on this question .I too will wait for that.

Any body can explain why bali was killed by Rama when he was fighting with Sugreev? Ans : – Ramayana is a story which teaches you about Dharma.The dharma of Father,Son,Husband,Wife,King,Brother etc..It teaches what to do and what not to by showing us the results to the doer.If you read Valmiki Ramayana the question you raised is asked by the wife of Bali and sreerama is giving answer for that.The opposite action of this is coming to SreeRama when he come as Sreekrishna in his next birth.The same bali (his after Birth)is killing Sreekrishna(after birth of Rama). This clearly teach us that for each and every action there is an equal and opposite reaction experienced by the doer as said by Sreekrishna in Bagavath Gita. I will also copy here an explanation given by one brother in this website itself. a) Bali was not unarmed : Bali was very powerfull. His hands were his arms. It is said that he was able to absorve all the powers of arms and weapons of the enemies who come before him. Hence, in practical view he was not unarmed. Hence Sri Ram did not kill some one when he was unarmed. b)Bali was not killed when he was engaged in fight with some one else : In Ramayan, it is very clearly written that, Ram waited till Sugriva is grounded by Bali. Hence in practical view, the fight was over, hence this allegation is base less too. c) Reason of Killing Bali: Ram went to Sugriva for help. He came to know that Bali had forcefully taken wife of Sugriva, and he was engaged in disturbing the kingdom in many ways. So it was for the betterment of the kingdom to kill Bali. And the method of killing Bali was a well planned war. So nothing wrong in it. Sri Ram saved a kingdom.

Any body can explain why sreekrishna having sex with radha before marriage? Ans : – Radha is a symbolic representation of knowledge.There is no such story in puranaas showing krishna had sex with radha.This is your own imagination or some body gave you wrong information.

Any body can explain why sreekrishna have 1600 wives? Ans:- Krishna does not have 1600 wives. Krishna gave the status of Rajapatnee ( Just like Mao Tse Tung, in China gave national women status for the women prisoners when he released them from Chinese jail) for thousands (16000) of women prisoners who were in the jail of Narakasura.Why he had given Rajapatnee Status? – As the women prisoners are not accepted by their husbands, parents and the society people (because they were with Narakasura) they ask for the help of krishna and thus Krishna gave them rajapatnee status. You questions are answered now except one .Now it is your turn to explain what Mr.Spirit shows you from Quran regarding your prophet. If you cannot answer please learn quran or learn religious books of India before raising such questions. As per Abdul Kalam(true muslim) former president of India his role model is Vidhura who is a character from Mahabharata. I request you to learn some Indian books and you will also get some role models which helps you to guide your life in a very pleasant manner.

@ Bagyaraj, 1)Why in Mahabharata Panjalay has 5 husbands? 2)How you can Say Abimanyu is the son of Arjuna why not Bhima,Udishtira etc? 3)Your Holy book permits to have 5 or more husbands for a lady.How she will know the father of the baby she is having? 4)Why your are worshiping penis of shiva?Why don’ t you worship others penis? 5)Why sex symbols are there in walls of temples?Are you not shame to go to temples with your family? 6)Why you worshiping the Idols in temples as it is not even permitted in your Vedas ? 7)Why sreekrishna took the dress of gopies and enjoyed their nudeness when they were taking bath? There are a lot of questions in this dirty Hindu mythology which you can’t answer. why to continue in such a religion?Learn the holy Qur’an and be a true Islam.

@Hyder ____________Why in Mahabharata Panjalay has 5 husbands___________ Mahabharat is mostly adulterated Text. As per scholars original Mahabharat had only 10000 Verses written by Ved Vyas but now it contains 120000 verses. That means 100000 verses has been added later. It should be interpreted as far as it is in the line of Veda rest should be rejected. For more detail on this click the link given belowhttp://vedmandir.com/content/questions-answers-october-09-2011

___________How you can Say Abimanyu is the son of Arjuna why not Bhima,Udishtira etc?_______________ Abhimanu got birth from Subhadra who was wife of Arjun. __________Your Holy book permits to have 5 or more husbands for a lady___________________ Sorry, u got the information from wrong sources who want to demean Hinduism. It is completely immoral and against Veda. Click on the link given above ________Why your are worshiping penis of shiva?Why don’ t you worship others penis___________ It is against Veda. People are unaware of Vedic knowledge that why they are worshiping Shivaling but not in the sense of penish but as a symbol of God. Stone worshiping is not mention in Veda. So worshiping of any stone what may Kaba stone or Shiva linga stone is against Veda. __________Why you worshiping the Idols in temples as it is not even permitted in your Vedas_____________ Because as earlier said people are unaware of Vedic knolwedge that why they are bowing head before Kaba stone or any other stones. ___________Why sreekrishna took the dress of gopies and enjoyed their nudeness when they were taking bath________ Veda nowhere have such story. Krishna was a great legend. All such stories are man made like false propaganda that Mohamad did sex with a child named Aisha or Mohamad did sex with her daughter Zainab & mohamd did sex with slaves women.

@ Hyder, I have the same answers for 1,2,3 Questions which is answered by Mr Truth Seeker.I will add some information to the answers for Questions 4,5,6,7

4) Why you are worshiping penis of shiva? Why don’t you worship others penis? Ans : – Linga in Sanskrit also means symbol – Symbol of Shiva and not Penis. Idol & Vigraha is different and shiva linga is a vigraha.A Vigraha can store energy and release energy. The specialty of Shiva Linga can be explained scientifically. There are nearly 200 atomic reactors in this world and nearly 95% of those have the shape of Shiva Linga. If you visit Shiva temple you can see 24 hrs water abisheka in Shiva linga in all the temples and the same process is there in atomic reactors too. A study based on this happened in last 10 years. Scientist Professor Corod Code of Moscow University had taken Kirlian photography (Gas discharge visualization photography) of various vigrahas & he calculated the storage capacity of electro magnetic energy in vigrahas. It is done in Kerala by the leading of BG Group with scientists from America. They discovered that the electromagnetic energy level which can be stored in Shiva Linga is (23×10) 39.That is the specialty of that shape and our ancestors used this because they know that it is good for health.

5)Why sex symbols are there in walls of temples?Are you not shame to go to temples with your family? Ans: – All the spirituality/ pilgrimage /temple visit / is for the mind. Mind is resting on body.All that are present in the body are part and parcel of spirituality. However in big/great temples, the postures of animal and human beings are demonstrated with a precise aim. Temple is the place where your mental attention is diverted from worldly luxuries to divinity. This cannot be done within a few days or few visits. It is a continuous process as told by Maharshi Patnjali Abhyaasa vairaaghyaabhyaam tannirodha only through practice and detachment this is achieved. Through bhajans, good pictures/ odor / prasadam/ touch/ contact/ etc…

@ Hyder, 5)Why sex symbols are there in walls of temples?Are you not shame to go to temples with your family? Ans: – All the spirituality/ pilgrimage /temple visit / is for the mind. Mind is resting on body.All that are present in the body are part and parcel of spirituality. However in big/great temples, the postures of animal and human beings are demonstrated with a precise aim. Temple is the place where your mental attention is diverted from worldly luxuries to divinity. This cannot be done within a few days or few visits. It is a continuous process as told by Maharshi Patnjali Abhyaasa vairaaghyaabhyaam tannirodha only through practice and detachment this is achieved. Through bhajans, good pictures/ odor / prasadam/ touch/ contact/ etc the attention of sensory organs can be diverted. But the attraction towards sex is not easy to divert. To make it sure that THE ATTRACTION TOWARDS SEX IS also diverted, ONLY possible method is present it in the natural form or the form the artist feel. Remember it works /worked. You can see in Mahakshetraas people do not get attracted towards these. These are only casual things for them.

@ Hyder, 6)Why you worshiping the Idols in temples as it is not even permitted in your Vedas ? Vedas says those who have wisdom does not require an Idol. Thus Idol is only for a common man till he reaches higher level of spirituality, as said ‘prathima alpa buddheenaam – prathima’/ idol is meant for common man. It is only a pathway to achieve higher level to reach ‘Brahma jnaanam’. For a real yogi, in Hindu dharma Idol is not needed. But idol worship in the temples has psychological, physiological, social, spiritual, cultural and national values to contribute for the members of the society. Indian temples are not just prayer halls it acts also as a quantum healing centers. The customs and rituals of the temples have a strong and proved scientific background. Hindus worship in temples. The temples are not merely prayer halls for Hindus, they are the quantum healing centers (kshayaath thraaythe iti kshetra). In temples the light, heat, sound and chemical energies are filled through lighting the lamp, camphor, keeping mirrors, etc. The sound energy through manthra, ringing of the bells, musical instruments, bhajans etc. The chemical energy is from bathies, aromatic flowers and leaves etc. Thus the temples are energization centres in Hindu way of worship. A devotee has to stand for few minutes in the temple environment in front of the vigraha/ idol with sareera ( body) ,mana ( mind), aahaara (food), vaak (words/ talking ) and karma ( deeds) suddhee (purity) for energisation.

7) Why sreekrishna took the dress of gopies and enjoyed their nudeness when they were taking bath? He took the dress of Gopies because they were bathing in the pond always nude and Krishna knows this activity is a disturbance for the people in that locality. So to stop this Krishna took the dress of gopies and in the story after this gopies never do such an activity because they found that the Krishna’s advice is correct and good for them and the society. No were in the story it is saying that Krishna enjoyed their nudeness. And as Truthseeker said these are all false propaganda. There are a lot of questions in this dirty Hindu mythology which you can’t answer. why to continue in such a religion? Learn the holy Qur’an and be a true Islam. Sex is not dirty and if you feel sex is dirty you are also dirty because you are a result of that dirty activity. Complain to your parents regarding this and don’t ever do sex in your life. What is your intention? Do you need to prove that Islam is the best religion and Quran is the best book? You can say this to some Arabs and not to Indians because we have more than 1500 books on various subjects. How can you ask such questions without having a minimum knowledge on these books? Why are you continuously asking some doubts from wrong sources? Why don’t you answer to the questions of Mr.Spirit? I prefer you to read Valmiki Ramayana and analyze it scientifically, rationally and logically. You will get a complete message how to live in this world with dignity and respect and how to behave to various persons.

“Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Many women have gone round Muhammad’s family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you.” [Muslim 11:2141]

The husband does not have to explain to anyone why he beats his wife.

“Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.” [Muslim 11:2142]

Muhammad went as far as to say women should prostrate in front of their husbands:

“If I were to command anyone to make prostration before another I would command women to prostrate themselves before their husbands, because of the special right over them given to husbands by Allah.” [11]

In a hadith Aisha narrated one night Muhammad, left her home after he thought she is asleep. She secretly followed her and when he came back and saw she was panting, he inquired where she had gone. [Poor man was extremely paranoid whether his wives were cheating]. He told her if she concealed what she was doing the “Subtle and the Aware” [ghosts] would inform him. Aisha says that when I confessed that I had followed him, “He struck me on the chest which caused me pain,” [Muslim4.2127 ]

@ Hyder, Sanathana Dharma is widely accepted in the world now a days.If you go to USA in 186 universities Bagavath Gita is a part of the syllabus. In Harvard University – Bagavath Geetha is the part of MBA Syllabus. In Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) – Sanskrit is one of the compulsory subject. In Toronto University – Department of Hinduism is the biggest department. In Manitoba University – Sanathana Dharma is teaching in different batches.In America 17 Million people is practicing yoga daily – a news from Indian Express in 2007.22% Americans moved to Vegetarian Diet. Ayurveda is widely accepted.I just mention America as an example because America is a very developed country in Scientific Field.As Swami Vivekananda said 21st century belong to we Indians.The world is turning towards India and you are still with your Quran and Prophet.Come let us together enjoy the essence of nearly 1500 basic foundation books in India based on various subject.Try to learn these books at least to criticize.

‘why Islam is surviving till now’ – Because Islam is only the true religion and from the god. I am ready to have discussion with you but if you ask 1 question i will also ask one about Hindu Mythology.If you can agree with that i am ready always.

@Hyder ________why Islam is surviving________________ 1. Because Islam is most peaceful religion of world. 2. Because Islam give lure of 72 virgin afterlife. 3. Because Islam support bowing head before stones. 4. Because Islam support we should include human also in God prayer.

”and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.” [9]

Mishkat al-Masabih narrates: “the above verse was revealed in connection with a woman who complained to Mohammad that her husband slapped her on the face (which was still marked by the slap). At first the Prophet said to her: ‘Get even with him’, but then added: ‘Wait until I think about it.’ Later on the above verse was revealed, after which the Prophet said: ‘We wanted one thing but Allah wanted another, and what Allah wanted is best.'” [10]

Maybe on the spur of the moment and faced with this obvious injustice, Muhammad was moved by a fleeting rash of compassion, but that did not last very long. Soon he thought about the implications of what he had said and how this would affect his own relationship with his rebellious wives. So he made his Allah issue that shamefully unjust verse giving men the liberty to beat their wives to make them obedient.

As it is clear from the above verse, a woman does not have to disobey her husband in order to be beaten. Her husband can beat her only if he FEARS that she may disobey her. As Irshah Manji in “The trouble with Islam: writes (p34 regarding 4:34) “To deserve a beating, a woman doesn’t have to disobey anybody, a man merely has to fear her disobedience. His insecurity becomes her problem”

Good women do not complain if their husbands beat them:

“Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the…

It is hard to determine why Muhammad was so concerned about this issue. Perhaps it helps to remember that he was an old man when his numerous wives were mostly teenagers or in their early twenties. His teeth must have been decaying and his mouth had a foul smell. As I have shown in Understanding Muhammad, he emitted a foul smell that he tried to mask with abundance of perfume. He was also impotent. It is natural to assume that his young wives were not that much desirous to share their bed with an old, smelly and impotent man like him. Is it possible that Muhammad concocted these stories to intimidate his young wives not to reject his sexual advances, when he wanted to “fondle” them? Or do you think Allah is also a pimp?

According to the Prophet of Allah, a man’s sexual urges are such an emergency that his wife must leave her food burn in the oven rather than leave him alone in bed with an erection.

The prophet of Allah said: When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at the oven.” [18]

Imagine kids coming home:

– Mom, we are home and hungry. – Oh, I am sorry, but the dinner is burnt. – Ah agaaaaain? – Yes my dear. Daddy had an emergency, which mommy had to attend to. – But Mom, you said the same also yesterday. – I know my sweet heart. Daddy lately spends a lot of time on the Internet.

The following Hadith also makes it clear that women are created for men and for their satisfaction.

”Allah’s Apostle said, “If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.” [15]

The above makes one wonder, whether Allah has nothing better to do than worrying about the sexual pleasures of Muslim men! It seems absurd that God would employ a host of angels to do nothing but sit around and curse the women who do not sexually please their husbands. To curse means invoking the wrath of God. Why would God need so many angles to invoke his wrath on frigid women when he can punish them his own? There seems to be a lot of redundancies and mismanagements up there. It is like the president of a country, have his staff lobby him for the plans that he wants to put into action. It just makes no sense. If these angels are paid then this is a complete waste of divine funds and if they are not paid then it is slavery. You can’t say the angels do this voluntarily because the angles do nothing without the will of Allah. There are more hadiths on this subject:

“Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, when a man calls his wife to his bed, and she does not respond, the One Who is in the heaven is displeased with her until he (her husband) is pleased with her.” [16]

And

“The Prophet said, “If a woman spends the night deserting her husband’s bed (does not sleep with him), then the angels send their curses on her till she comes back (to her husband).” [17]

It is hard to determine why Muhammad was so concerned about this issue. Perhaps it helps to remember that he was an old man when his numerous wives were mostly teenagers or in their early twenties. His teeth must have been decaying and his…

@ Aatish, 1. If someone does not believe in this story of Shiva, is he saved from the wrath of Allah? Ans : – Believing Shiva who is a dirty creature is your choice.

2. A hindu can remain hindu even if he rejects stories of Puranas or any other books. But can you do it with the stories of pedophilia, rape and sex slavery that your prophet was central character? Can you remain Muslims after rejecting such stories of Muhammad? Ans : – There is no such dirty stories in Quran then why we need to reject.

1. I did not ask what is my choice, I know it better than you. Answer the question asked. Ans : The answer i had given is more than enough .This question itself reveals that you need to worship dirty Shiva and his penis. 2. So you believe that (i) Sex slavery, rape and pedophilia are dirty Ans : – Yes with out any doubt because i am not a worshiper of Shiva (ii) Muhammad did not do/preach/support slavery, rape and pedophilia Ans : – No,Never

Good, now if I show you that (ii) is false, will you leave Islam? Ans: – I show mistakes of Shiva.Are you ready to leave Hinduism?I challenge you to prove the 2nd statement with quotes from Quran

you are talking about gujarat and ayodhya who is responsible for gujarat riots ,how many muslims have condemned burning of 57 innocent people by jihadi mob ,gujarati hindus have been persecuted by muslims since conquest by muslims ,your islamic hero mahmud ghaznavi what he has done to somnath temple, see the history gujarat riots , who is the responsible?

and for ayodhya thousands of temples have been demolished by the muslims since centuries , see kashi viswanath temple is not it destroyed by aurangzeb, what you have to say about kashmiri pandits , what is the opinion for malabar massacre by muslims in which hindus were killed one sided in the name of khilafat movement, what is the situation of hindus in pakistan and bangladesh

@ Aatish, 1. Question here is not Shiva with penis or Allah without penis or eunuch. Question was, will Allah save those from hell who dont believe in Shiva? Ans: – Allah will save only the people who believes in him and follow his path.

2. I dont believe in Shiva you mentioned. I reject any immoral, illogical story found anywhere. So no question of leaving Hinduism because I dont believe in that ‘Hinduism’ in first place. Ans : – It is better to reject if mistakes are shown and thus you will finally reject Hindu Dharma or Vedic Dharma.

Explain Quran [33:50] here. What was the age of Aisha when Muhammad married her? Ans : Where is Aisha in Quran [33:50] ?

Gujarat : – These are all the stories made by Hindus.Even if Hindus are killed by some terrorists,is the right way of reply is by killing the poor Muslims.Then what is the difference between Hindus and terrorists?It is not the problem of Hindus but the problem of their religious books which teaches to kill the family members for the kingdom.

Ayodhya :- Building up some stories to support the terrorist activities will not work.Some stories had been made by historians .By believing that Hindus destroy the Holy mosque.This is what happened in Ayodhya.

that what i say you muslims always denied your own atrocities ,by killing thousands of non-muslims you say islam is the religion of peace , where are you getting wrong informations ? from your pakistani historians , when muslims are in majority they always persecutes the ethnic minorities and when they are in minorities they demand various benefits from the govt, in every islamic countries there are islamic terrorist organisations in the name of allah and from quranic instructions.majority of crimes are commited by muslims in india and other countries.who said the muslims to attack non-muslims land, what happen to the zoroastrians in iran by religion of peace,there are so many incidents of your peaceful religion, but you still talking about gujarat and ayodhya, but denies kashmir ,bangladesh ,pakistan hindu genocide,and you say stories made by hindus, in every muslim countries there have been ethnic cleanising of religious minorities,even many ex-muslims like ali sina,ibn warraq,mariam namazie,ehsan jami ,magdi alam have criticised the Islam why? If hindus are intoleraant then how muslims are growing in india why there have been thousands of mosques and madrasaas, compare your muslim countries with non-muslim countries see what is crap condition of muslims.

Have some shame Hyder. Nowhere has prithvi or anyone else justified killing of any Muslim. They have on contrary raised questions on why non-Muslims are persecuted in Muslim majority as a religious duty. It is you who are shamelessly diverting the topic because you have ran out of reasons.

@ Pritvi,Raja,Aathish,kal Bhairav,Vinay Arya etc, Please explain the below quotes what your vedas says about Women A virtuous woman is one who dies on the funeral pyre of her dead husband and avails the privilege of serving her husband in the other world. (Atharva Veda 18-3-1) Woman is the source of sorrow. At birth she makes her mother weep. At the time of the puberty she makes her parents weep. At the time of the marriage she makes all her family members and relatives weep. In youth she commits lot of blunders and brings bad name to the entire family, relatives and Varna . She tortures the hearts of her parents, husband and other family members. She is called ‘DARIKA’ because she is source of sorrow to all. (Aithareya Brahmana)

Where is sacrifical pyre here? OR is it your imagination ? HAHAHA. In Sanskrit, one word means many things, therefore one has to see context and apply. Leave it – how will Arabic jokers understand that? Quote the Sanskrit verse from Aitereya Brahmana. That will show the loopholes in your arguments.

Which story of Shiva you are talking about ?In Purana there is no such story.I can give you the scientific explanation of Trinity Gods.

Explanation for Mahavishnu: The blue colour of Vishnu denotes the colour of the sky and ocean which means the infinity/ limitless. The serpent on which Vishnu is lying denotes the coiled structure of a galaxy. The name of the serpent anantha means limitless (infinity) the ksheera saagaram ( ocean of milk) on which Vishnu is pictured shows milky way galaxy. Anantha sayana represent the silent universe/ galaxies. Symbolically Mahalakshmi ( meaning of this word is prosperity) has been attributed the position of the wife of Mahavishnu showing that any system can smoothly exist only with prosperity.

From Mahavishnu comes out through a Lotus (symbolically) the creator Lord Brahma. This symbolically presents a connection of Lord Brahma with the prapancha purhsa similar to the connection of the baby in the womb of the mother. The baby takes the energy and nutrition for growing/ cell production from the mother. Similarly Lord Brahma takes energy and material from for creation in the world. The four heads of Lord Brahma represent the four axes required for any creation: x, y, z and time axes. The Vedas (the word itself means knowledge) in the hands of Lord Brahma and the position of Saraswathy (deity of knowledge) as the wife of the creator symbolically present that for every creation knowledge/ vidya is required. The knowledge and creation (knowledge for creation) are inseparable components.

Lord Siva is the deity symbolically presents the controller of death/ destruction (the destruction is for further construction). Mahavishnu and Lord Siva are said to be connected through hearts (which only means inseparable) Vishnoasya hrudayam siva: Sivosya hrudayam vishno – says Upanishads and Yajurveda. Symbolically Lord Siva has powerful fire in the third eye, powerful water and torrential air symbolically tied in the tuft and the snake around the neck (symbol of…

“When the gods interrupted Siva and Parvati, two sons were born of drops of Siva’s seed. These sons were then posted at the door to prevent further interruptions while Siva made love to Parvati, having promised the gods that he would not spill his seed in her. One day Parvati came out of the bedroom in great dishabille, half naked, her breasts scored with teeth marks. The two sons chanced to see her like that, and they were upset, but Parvati became angry and said, ‘Why have you looked at me when I was not in a state to be seen by anyone but my husband? You should have closed your eyes. Since you have done this immoral thing, you will be reborn as mortal men with the faces of monkeys.’ Then they were miserable and protested that it was her fault for having come out so suddenly, and they cursed her to become a mortal queen (Taravati) and Siva to be her husband (Candrasekhara) so that they themselves might be born again as their sons, Vetala and Bhairava.” — Siva Purana 3:21:1-8; Kalika Purana 49:1-92, 50:1-64, 51:1-60, 52:1-155, 53:1-217.? [O’Flaherty, Wendy D.? Siva: The Erotic Ascetic.? Pub.: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-520250-3. pp.308-309]. what is the MORAL OF THE ABOVE STORIES FROM THE SAID SCRIPTURES?

Dear Hyder I do not accept Purans,Gita,Bible etc. The sacred texts in which I believe iareas follows in short: Four Vedas,Four Upavedas,Six darshans,Ramayan By Valmiki,Mahabharat by Vyas,only ten upanishadas, etc. If anything imaginary,against science is found even these scriptures,I would certainly reject them. Also,I do read the translation of Vedas by stupd,illiterate persons who are just as kids..I read the translation of Vedas by Maharshi Dayanand and his true followers.You should read the literature of Swami Dayanand and get acquanted with the true religion.Even if some unscientific is found in the books by Maharshi Dayanand and his true followers then I would certainly reject it.

Also,I have different definition of religion.The definition is: Always accept the truth and decline the false.

The word “religion” is not bound in the so-called scriptures because the truth can be completely different. I am not any Pauranic,quranic etc.I am not kttarpanthi.But whatever truth is there in the world’s any corner is my “religion”.

I said that Purans cannot be the books of religion.Then why are you asking”Since i show wrong in your religious books why cant you accept it !!!!”?Just to play with me.No.No.No. I am not going to reply if you would agan say false.As I have already said that Purans cannot be the books of religion then why do you ask me I do not accept the truth

Dear Vinay , I am a Hindu Girl by default , I have been reading ur Answers …though some time i think you are on a right path but another end u make me confuse,like u said ..(I do not accept Purans,Gita,Bible etc. The sacred texts in which I believe iareas follows in short: Four Vedas,Four Upavedas,Six darshans,Ramayan By Valmiki,Mahabharat by Vyas,only ten upanishadas, etc.and If anything imaginary,against science is found even these scriptures,I would certainly reject them.)jabki hamare sare scriptures imaginary he hai), cause these are written and sound like kiddish …..is that mean that there is some thing wrong written by all these great are stupids according to you …just because they have written truth and we have shame on our part ?…..and you follow Swami Dayanand or Maharishi dayanad ….because they have Elaborate words which sound good to you and have cover the truth ….well coming to the confusion ( how do u know that the person u r following is correct and y dont you agree to those who had written our vedas,purans, gita …are they all are foolish and you and Maharishi dayand is correct …….some wher up you have written Hindus are innocent and they agree very easily and people make fool to them, (which is very correct) …but you are also doing the same thing with all my Brothers and sisters …….Glati ko manna YAHI Hindu dharm hai …na k galat disha mai batkana ….. well rest up to you if you could give me some point answers …..and plz dont play with words in that …. Regards Ritika

Dear Ritika Have you ever read the works of Maharshi Dayanand Saraswati?It loolk like you never read them.You should read his works.You are completely unaware of the world of Pakandis.Also,how can the imaginary stories of Puranas come true.I can know the person following is true because I use my intellect hddne in me.My intellect after too much hard work says that Maharshi Dayanand is right and others are Pakhandis.I am not destroying your brothers and sisters.Have you read this site even properly?I try to get the proof of what a man is saying.If there is not proof the man is considered to be false and if there is then he is true.Our past was not so much bad as written in Puranas etc.However the peiod from Muslims or from Biddha was tooo bad.Puranas are not early works but are recent.Please use your intellect to find out the truth.And Also read “SAtyarth Prakash” of Maharshi Dayanand.Develop your analytical intellectual skills. etc etc. I am not doing he same thing for your brothers and sisters..

About Maharishi Dayanand Saraswati , he was a great personality . No doubt in that . He was the one who introduced the Shuddhi Movement , as our Hindu Brahmins and community were reluctant to bring in the people back to our religion ( who those became christians can’t again become hindu again ) , thanks to Maharishi dayanand , who changed all of this . But again , He was one of the many intellectuals of the community . You have to believe in others as well . The idea is that :: Human Mind’s analytic / intellectual power is decreasing . Now a days people like us ( You , Me and althose who considers themselves ) will give the lamest excuse ( We don’t have time , Ah , its boring , oopsie , its too hard to understand etc ) when it comes to doing research , Indians tries to flee away .

Before giving your immature authority / opinions , just try to devote some time to read those scriptures . Also the publications of the Sanatan Dharma predates every single religion , there is absolutely no one who can deny this fact .

A year ago , I used to blindly follow that every religion is equal , etc but when I heard about how Hindus were slaughtered since 1100 AD by Mohammed’s , Christians , recently the Temples were Bombed in NYC ( USA ) , Bengal , Rajasthan , Tamil Nadu . It changed everything .

@VEDIC GOD IS GREAT Islam gives Highest respect to women. Such small incident happens everywhere. Dont make issue over small things. Prophet (PBUH) taught us to give greatest regards to women. Prophet helped a lot of women who had lost their husband, brother in wars. Islam never allows killing of women while having wars with kaffirs or dis-believers. This news may be false to denigrate Islam.

I still fail to see the purported wrong in this story. Husband and wife sleeping together and engaging in love-making, and sons and mother cursing one another on account of a misunderstanding is wrong, and Muhammad legitimizing sexual slavery, polygamy, easy divorces, rapes, loot, murder, etc. is right. Now, the picture is clear to me: You have got an outrageously bigoted viewpoint there.

@ SDC & Vinay Arya You may not find anything wrong in this because you are such a creature like shiva “When the sages saw Siva naked and excited they beat him and they said, ‘Tear out your linga.’ The great yogi said to them, ‘I will do it, if you hate my linga’, and he tore it out and vanished.” — Kurma Purana 2:38:39-41; cf. Haracaritacintamani 10:74; Yagisvaramahatmya 26a. 14. [O’Flaherty, Wendy D. Siva: The Erotic Ascetic. Pub.: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-520250-3. p.132]. Your role model is shiva.I saw many rishies who make shiva role model.They always half naked.Come to the true religion islam.”Muhammad legitimizing sexual slavery, polygamy, easy divorces, rapes, loot, murder, etc.” Can you show a single phrase in quran showing all these.If you can then i will left Islam.

Vinay Arya suddenly say that puranaas (Kurma,Shiva & Bavisha Puranaas)are not his religious books because he found that the phrases i mentioned are correct and no need to worship any more this Shiva and his linga.

The problem with you Hyder is the little knowledge that you possess of both these religions. You want me to quote para, chapter, and verse. So, here you go:

Qur’an (33:50) – “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee”

Qur’an (23:5-6) – “..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess…” This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur’an (70:29-30).

Qur’an (4:24) – “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” Even sex with married slaves is permissible.

Qur’an (8:69) – “But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good” A reference to war booty (ghanimah).

Throughout history, people have taken to worship things or people alongside Allah, or just worshiping something else like power, status or money. Even the names of religions seem have more to do with the creation and less or nothing to do with the Creator. For example: Buddhism – Buddha (the name of a man), Confucianism – Confucius (the name of a man), Hinduism – Hind (the name of an area), Judaism – Judah (the name of a tribe) and Christianity – Christ (the name of a great prophet). Islam is different. Islam is a word coming from the verb “aslama” and it carries the meaning of “surrender”, “submission”, between you and Almighty Allah (God) and not to any human or anything within creation. Anyone who practices Islam submits to and worships Allah alone without any partners of any kind. Islam teaches that God is One. Therefore the set of laws governing the universe is one. The oneness of the Creator, also, means that everything — whether living or non-living — is God’s creation. So they are bound to function in accordance with the nature assigned to them by God.

@ SDC, In Hinduism, forms of Ishwara (i.e., the supreme God) such as Brahma (The creator), Vishnu (The preserver) and Shiva (The destroyer) are viewed as taking incarnations (Avatars), usually as a human) and coming down to the earth to bless humanity and rid the world of sins. Rama and Krishna are two of the most famous avatars of Vishnu and are highly popular among the Hindu masses. Hindus worship the same one God under different forms and even through icons.Shivas (who identify God with Shiva) believe their God Shiva has 11 avatars, wives Sati and Parvati and Sons Ganesha and Karthikeya. Lord Shiva is conceived in his unborn, invisible form as the Shiva Lingam. The Lingam represents as the male creative energy of Shiva. This main symbol of Shiva is worshipped in every Shaiva Hindu temple and home. Through it Shiva is worshipped as the supreme consciousness. Embracing the base of the linga is the yoni, the female organ, as the universal energy, as Shakti, Shiva’s spouse. But Islam follows a monotheistic view. Allah is the singular, transcendent, indivisible, and All-Pervading one true God, and this principle of monotheism is called Tawhid. Allah, the God, is considered ineffable, omniscient, omnipotent and has infinite attributes. Attribution of divinity to a created entity, shirk(polytheism), is considered as a denial of the truth of God and thus a major sin.Allah neither takes incarnations, nor has wives, Sons or daughters. “Say: He is Allah. the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.” (Sura 112:1-4)

@SDC, Everything in this universe except God is the creation of God. God is different from all of his creations, because God is the maker and keeper of them all. The maker of anything must be different from and greater than the things which he makes. Muslims worship such a God, called Allah in Arabic language. In the world there must be a Great force in action to keep everything in order. In the beautiful nature there must be a great artist who creates the most charming pieces of art and produces everything for a special purpose in life. This force is the strongest of all forces, And this Artist is the greatest of all artists. The true believers and deeply enlightened people recognize this Artist and call him God. They call him God because God is the creator and the chief architect of the world, The originator of life and the provider of all things in existence. God is not a man because no man can create or make another man. God is neither father nor son. God has no son or daughters. God is not an animal, nor God is a plant. God is neither an idol nor God is a statue of any kind because none of these things can make itself or create anything else. God is not a machine. God is neither the Sun nor is God the Moon or any other Star, because these things are controlled by a great system, and are themselves made by someone else. God is different from all these things, because God is the maker and keeper of them all. The maker of anything must be different from and greater than the thing which he makes. The maker and Sustainer of the world, the creator and provider for man, the active force and effective power in nature are all one and the same, and that is known to be Allah.

“It is God Who has made the night for you, that you may rest therein, and the day to see. Verily God is full of Grace and bounty to men. Yet most men give no thanks. Such is God, your Lord, the creator of all things. There is no god but He; why then do you turn away from him. Thus are turned away those who deny the signs of God. It is God who has made for you the earth as a resting place and the sky as a shelter, and has given you shape and made your shapes beautiful, and has provided for you sustenance of things good and pure; such is God your Lord. So glory to God, the lord of the worlds! He is the living (One); There is no god but He; call upon Him, giving him sincere devotion. Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds” (Holy Qur’an)

So, we need such a God and believe in that God and praise and worship that God only. May God Bless all of us to quest the truth.

Lord Siva is the deity symbolically presents the controller of death/ destruction (the destruction is for further construction). Mahavishnu and Lord Siva are said to be connected through hearts (which only means inseparable) Vishnoasya hrudayam siva: Sivosya hrudayam vishno – says Upanishads and Yajurveda. Symbolically Lord Siva has powerful fire in the third eye, powerful water and torrential air symbolically tied in the tuft and the snake around the neck (symbol of international medical association) and thri sool in hand. All the five respectively present destruction through fire, water (flood, etc) air (cyclone/ tempest,etc) diseases and using weapons. Parvathy (means energy/force/sakti) is symbolically presented as the wife of Lord Siva. Through this combination of Lord Siva and Parvathy, it is shown that the destruction for construction can take place with powerful application of any one or more of the above five. (Powerful fire, air, water, diseases and weapon only have the destruction capacity). Thus they become inseparable hence the concept of Ardhanaareeswara comes up. In fact the Brahma Vishnu Maheswara sankalpa and the Lakshmi Parvathy Sarswathi sankalpa are the symbolic presentation of the life cycle spiritual- social and physical level when scientifically explained. Always the Hindus consider the knowledge, prosperity and sakthi/power in feminine gender. These explanations (of the gods) are the connecting layers of Vedic and puranic concepts of gods.

1. If someone does not believe in this story of Shiva, is he saved from the wrath of Allah?

2. A hindu can remain hindu even if he rejects stories of Puranas or any other books. But can you do it with the stories of pedophilia, rape and sex slavery that your prophet was central character? Can you remain Muslims after rejecting such stories of Muhammad?

Tslim Shaikh, Your comment is italicIslam gives Highest respect to womenProphet (PBUH) taught us to give greatest regards to women. Prophet helped a lot of women who had lost their husband, brother in wars. Islam never allows killing of women while having wars with kaffirs or dis-believers.

Are you expecting me to believe in anything whatever you say??? How Muhammad helped a lot of women (who lost their husbands or siblings)? By molesting them??? Muhammad allowed his men to rape the women captured in raids. Bukhari reports:

Abu Saeed said: “We went out with Allâh’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allâh’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

Muhammad does not forbid raping women captured in war. Instead, he indicates that when Allâh intends to create anything, nothing can prevent it. In other words, not even the absence of semen can prevent it. So Muhammad is telling his men that coitus interruptus would be futile and ill-advised because it would be an attempt to thwart the irresistible will of Allâh. Muhammad does not say a word against the forced insemination of these captive females. In fact, by criticizing coitus interruptus, in effect he supported forced insemination.

Safiyah was a beautiful 17 years old Jewish woman who was captured when Muhammad’s troops raided Kheibar. She was the daughter or Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab, the chief of the Banu Nadir, a Jewish tribe of Medina , whom Muhammad had beheaded two years earlier along with the men of Banu Quriaza. The tribe of Banu Nadir had been already banished from Medina and their properties were confiscated. She was married to her…

From the Kurma Purana: In the Pine Forest , Shiva seduces the wives of the sages, so the sages curse him for this immoral behavior: “When the sages saw Siva naked and excited they beat him and they said, ‘Tear out your linga.’ The great yogi said to them, ‘I will do it, if you hate my linga’, and he tore it out and vanished.” — Kurma Purana 2:38:39-41; cf. Haracaritacintamani 10:74; Yagisvaramahatmya 26a. 14. [O’Flaherty, Wendy D. Siva: The Erotic Ascetic. Pub.: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-520250-3. p.132].

From the Bhavisya Purana — In another version, Shiva (and the other two deities of the Trimurti) rape the sage Atri’s wife and are punished:

“One day when the sage Atri was performing asceticism with his wife Anasuya, Brahma, Visnu and Siva came to him and offered him a boon. When Atri continued to meditate, the three gods went to Anasuya; Siva had his linga in his hand, Vishnu was full of erotic feeling, and Brahma, beside himself with desire, said, ‘Make love to me or I will die.’ When she heard this coarse speech, Anasuya made no reply, for, although she feared the anger of the gods, she was true to her husband. But the three gods were overcome by delusion, and they raped her by force. Then she became angry, and she cursed Siva to be worshipped as a linga, Brahma to be worshipped as a head, and Visnu to be worshipped as feet, in order to ridicule them all, and she cursed them all to be reborn as her sons. Because of this, Siva was born as Durvasas.” — Bhavisya Purana 3:4:17:67-78. [O’Flaherty, Wendy D. The Origins of Evil in Hindu Mythology.? Pub.: University of California Press. ISBN 0-520-04098-8. pp.302-303].

Incidentally, the behavior of Lord Shiva’s wife, the goddess Parvati, was not really any better than her husband’s behavior. In the Siva and Kalika Puranas, Parvati shamelessly walks out of the bedroom half-naked, revealing her breasts:

“When the gods interrupted Siva and Parvati, two sons were born of drops of Siva’s seed. These sons were then posted at the…

Oh oh oh… Have you ever tried to read the story of Anusuya ?? Here is the truth – (Although I dont believe on these stories, but there is nothing wrong in this story)

Once Vishnu, brahma and Siva came to Anusuya. Rishi was outside that time. They asked Anushuya to feed them. Anusuya brought some cooked food. But they three refused, and asked to be breast feeded.

Anushushya smiled at them and said, only babies of the age below 2yr are breast feeded. So you have to be my baby. Then by the grace of the power of Anushuya they became babies and stayed with her as her children.

Come on, say where is it wrong ? Although, you may argue, how the Gods became kid etc.. But for you before saying so, do some research. and read all the articles of Agniveer first.

@Hyder No, as per him, you’re an Idiot, a Semi-Literate. Who can’t even comprehend simple plain English and don’t have any other job than copy-paste. Go back to your madarssa, your filth is most suited there.

Now, Hyder, let me share with you my viewpoints on your copy-pasted material. Shiva was an ascetic who attained salvation through penances. He is not paramatman (universal consciousness). He committed a lot of mistakes during his lifetime as we all do and was punished for that one way or the other. Unlike in your faith where Allah who absolves every one of their crimes if they please him by singing hymns in his honor, in SD everyone is held accountable for his/her mistakes and has to pay the price for it. Nobody is let off the hook.

Hi Agniveer, I have one small question about islam.If allah know about past,present and future.If there is only one birth and there is no rebirth then how allah already decided who will go in jannat and jahhanum and on which basis. Exp- Suppose,I have two brother,one is gentleman and other is just opposite and allah already know that second one will go in jahhanum because allah already decided in one birth that who will in jannat and who will in jahhnumm otherwise everyone will go in jannat/jahhnumm because we can not change and how we can change,allah know and already decided 20..30% will jannat and 80..70% in jahhnumm. Before quran,everyone was kafir beacuse If I don’ know about quran then how i will fallow it, means everyone will go in jahannum. Exp-Before AIDS patient and Dr. research,nobody know that If I will use condom then I will safe from AIDS.Before Dr. analysis if anyone will do Sex with AIDS patient then will get AIDS. Now I have another question Before joined quran I was a kafir/non muslim.I done sex with some person and got AIDS but I am uneducated person and don’t know about AIDS and others thing,I only know about quran and joined it. Now I am muslim and not a kafir.I got married and first wife died with AIDS and again I married and I killed 6 wifes by AIDS.As I fallow quran and non kafir then I will get jannat or not.

@ agni Why my only half comment only , this is not fair. i had given justifcation and reasoining , and reply to all your doubts I think this site is fake one just for spreading message of haterd and misconceptions and delima about Islam. See my wife is Hindu Brahmin , i had some regard for Hindu dharma but you people here are molesting image all over. I think i should restrain my self to visit this site now

Before you run away from here and restrain yourself from visiting this site, you must know that there is a comment policy http://agniveer.com/terms/comment-policy/ according to which the comment should not exceed 2000 characters and if it does, it gets chopped. It is same for everyone.

@all First for your clearification read your sanscrit langauge well and debate with your Gurus Fisrt prominant one being aShankar Achariya, Shri SHri Ravi Shankar, Swami Agnesh then come to me See what actually Bavisha Purana Has to Say ,but you guys are molesting your own sacred book and send wrong message to mankind “”The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, “O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations.”

I strongly belive the way of Islamic punishment go and check google and other authentic statistical sources then see where is the lowest crime rate in the world Saudi Arabia (The only country in the world following the ways of Islamic punishment) “This time In india debate is going weather Kashmb shud be hanged or not i feel he must be, that will send signal to whole world we an bear it.otherwise everbody will feel no body can do…

DearAgniveer, I have been watching your site from few months as i am married to Hidu girl ,she brought my attention to this site.I saw bizzare instead of spreading message of tuthfullness and peace you are just spreading misconceptions about Islam,desist from that If you are ethically right person ,i dont have problem with your comments about ISlama Bla Bla bla, But i doubt your honest soul because saw you misquioing quran and piblically abusing Islam.We have been taught in quran dont disrespect any religion otherwise you will be punished i think yours will be otherwise case.but i know that is not true.Come let us have debate on Islam and Hindusim whichs is true religion without abusing and insulting each other.I promise i will convert to hinduism if there will be on verse ethicaly wrong in Quran. I can tell you so many errors in all of your sacred books. the person who will loose the battel here will have to conver. Is it done. Take care i am waitting

Isnt Quran a public document? Doesnt it contain some of the vilest verses about the future for non-Muslims? If you want a realistic debate, then please tell us which verses of the Quran are no longer relevant, which are historical and which are true for all of humankind for all times to come.

If there is something WRONG that is being mentioned here, correct the mistake in our interpretation of Islam/Quran. We dont have to formally AGREE to debate you. The debate is already started. Instead of prefacing your arguments with a general introduction get to the point already about where Hinduism is wrong and where Islam is right.

1. Kindly show one evidence from the site where we have abused any religion or its models? Difference in opinion based on facts does not amount to showing disrespect. We don’t want to convert anyone to any religion except religion of honesty of intention.

2. Whatever quotes we have given are from established translations of Quran. We never abuse original Quran, but do question these translations in the era of science and reason.

4. By the way, is your wife still a Hindu after marriage? If yes, we have great respect from your belief in tolerance and respect for all human beings. But then your Nikaah is invalid as per mullahs like Zakir Naik. If not, then I have nothing to comment.

5. The comments that we have made on interpretations of Quran have also been made by people like Sir Syed Ahmad, Ghulam Jelani et al. Have you read Dual Islam by Dr Jelani and Quran translation by Sir Syed? Sir Syed was given a fatwa of death by the same set of fanatic Mullahs whose legacy modern fanatics like Zakir Naik represent.

Anyways, our brotherly advise would be to explore more, keep minds open, be accepting of counter-views without feeling of hatred and pray that even all so-called non-believers should rightly go to Heaven regardless of their religious beliefs. That would be true Islam as per root meaning of the word which existed even centuries before the first Quran was written 20 years after murder of the great Muhammad by his own followers.

I leave it to visitors to peacefully discuss this further and spread better understanding and tolerance among each other.

Blessings Admin PS: I met a very gentle devout Bohra Muslim who is a great person but believes that Ali was the greatest person born ever and that non-Muslims can also achieve Heaven. Another friend of mine is an Ismaili who does not keep Rozas and believes in rebirth. Both of them openly criticize typical Wahabi interpretations of Quran as propagated by Zakir etc. Am not sure whether such people are Muslims in first place as per Zakir! And if not, why not consider Agniveer as yet another Muslim sect who believes in original Quran or Vedas? Enjoy the Eid with all humans of the world by accepting goodness in sacred books like Vedas and rejecting those interpretations of Quran that differentiate between believers and non-believers. Ameen!

———-I promise i will convert to hinduism if there will be on verse ethicaly wrong in Quran.———

Do you agree with the Islamic punishment of death for apostasy? If yes, you lied that you will convert. And if you dont agree with this Islamic law, you have already changed your Islamic stand and in that case you are not Muslim.

This Zakir is a Fool and and an Idiot and a Hypocrite. Firstly when Bhavishya Purana has Mohammed he goes about saying proudly that Mohammed and Islam is mentioned in Hindu books however when we point out that Mohammed is shown as a Ghost in BP he says BP is not authentic..such a HYPOCRYTE

When Muhammad speaks @ Quran, he is suffering epilepsy, but when Rishis speak @ Vedas he is normal.

Muhammad’s Quran (actually it was compiled after his death…so, it is the compilers’ Quran) has hatespeech against non-believers. Only someone steeped in hatred suffering delusions can come up with something as brutal as the Quran. If the Quran had said that every child born on Thursday ought to be immediately put to death would you then acknowledge that old Mo suffered epilepsy?

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my humble request to ppl commenting over here… pls dont quote someone to be liar or abuse them … before knowing the actual truth……… first do complete research then give ur comments… nd dat reasearch needs to be impartial…..

there will be nothing exist but the truth. so not even religion will stand in the end

“satya evam jayatne” “ana al haqq”

religion is a mean to preserve goodness and rigtheousness (sanata dharma / akhlakul kharimah) for thoose who believe in the truth. and it’s flexible according to the evolution and or condition of people/culture in which the message is intended for

its culture that give them derivatif form and differentation but can’t you see in the essence every religion speak’s one truth? (om tat sat, evam ekam adityam brahman | ashaduanla ila ha ila lah, waashadu anna muhammad da rosulluloh)

(tat tvam asi (atman n brahman is the same) in hindus are the same what muslim simbolically do when they sat on the last tahiyat (shalat) with speaking syahadat (allah and muhammad is the same)

(AUM = ALM)

can’t you see the om writen in sankscript is very close derivatif of muhammad writen in arabic

and theres plenty of more that what islam teach have similiar on what vedic teach

it is culture and personalification that gave us pride and exclusivism and forget the same message on diffrent form and also there are thoose who intentionaly blurs the message by false writing and or translation for their own purpose, but never the less it is truth that will victorious

@Wellwisher The BIGGEST LIE MUSLIM TELL is there is no caste system in their religion and PERVERT PSEUDO HISTORIAN ROMILA THAPAR’S also lied that Islamic Invasion also helped in mellowing down the effects of caste system Infact it become strong after Islamic Invasion. Ashraf muslims consider themselves superior to lower caste Ajlaf Muslims and Arzal Muslims are considered untouchables. Pakistan is more casteist than India that is proven by infamous Mukhtaran Mai gang rape case by upper caste muslims and many other cases like this. Salman Taseer killing has also casteist touches because Mullahs cannot digest a man from business community challenge the power of clergy . In Pakistan untoucability is practiced even in urban areas the shias, ahmediyas, Hindus are considered untouchables and Sunni Muslims do not share their food with them.

THE BIGGEST SIDE EFFECT OF SHARIA LAW IS THAT IT CREATES VERY RIGID CASTE SYSTEM MULLAHS BECAME VERY POWERFUL AND NOBODY CAN QUESTION THEM SO ANY MUSLIM WHO THINKS THERE IS NO CASTE SYSTEM IN ISLAM IS LIVING IN FOOL’S PARADISE.

@WELL WISHER LIAR you said there is no mention of Friday Prayers in Koran but I proved that there is Special Mention of Friday Prayers in Koran this is the way how you debate by using lies. Your claim of being a Hindu also must be lie. See what Islam has made you —- a liar. You said Muslims, Christians, and Jews have gone astray from their original Religion so then why are you blaming Hindus when they have gone astray from their True Vedic Religion.

@WellWisher caught your lies Friday prayers are clearly mentioned in Koran and Sahih Hadiths and Prophet Mohammad himself said Friday prayers are special prayers see below verse:

O ye who believe! When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly), hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic): That is best for you if ye but knew! And when the Prayer is finished, then may ye disperse through the land, and seek of the Bounty of Allah: and celebrate the Praises of Allah often (and without stint): that ye may prosper. —Qur’an, sura 62 (Al-Jumua), ayat 9-10[1]

The Prophet said, “On every Friday the angels take their stand at every gate of the mosques to write the names of the people chronologically (i.e. according to the time of their arrival for the Friday prayer) and when the Imam sits (on the pulpit) they fold up their scrolls and get ready to listen to the sermon.”

—Collected by Muhammad al-Bukhari, Sahih al-Bukhari[

The stories mentioned in Torah and Bible are also mentioned in Koran like the story of Moses, Jesus etc (JESUS IS FICTIONAL CHARACTER) which were stolen Pagan scriptures and Mythologies see below ARTICLE OF ROBIN WOODSONG

looks like you appear to be weak in reading english. Agniveer claimed that AS PER BHAVISYA PURAN, mohammad is a ghost, demon, and a mass murderer. BUT, Bhavishya Puran is not an authentic book, so thats why we do not go by it, and you should be thankful for that, otherwise all hindus would thrash your prophet’s image daily. But in reality, we believed mohammad to be a genious. But if we look at mohammad as per Bhavishya Puran, Quran, and Hadiths, which portray him as a rapist, terrorist, ghost, and looter, then we condemn him.

[…] Puran does not even come in category of evidence, when it comes to Hindu religion." See: Zakir Naik claims Prophet in Hindu Scriptures In any case, it would seem that even if the Bhavisya Purana were reliable, the translation […]

1. If ZN does not consider any book authentic, why quote it? Which Hindu studies Bhavishya Puran? How many Hindus have even heard of it? Clearly Zakir is indulging in fraud. Moreover as explained, even if Hindus consider BP to be authentic, it only portrays Muhammad as a demon. Why is ZN trying to insult Muhammad to claim prophetdom for himself? Actually he just copied from Qadiyani sources without giving reference to original author. This is called plagiarism and is theft of intellectual property. As per Shariat, Zakir himself says that punishment of theft is cutting of hands.

2. Zakir has little intellectual capabilities. He is only a parrot. We all have seen his debates and laugh a lot on that. Only poorly educated among Muslims appreciate him. Ask Zakir to give an aptitude test and results would be clear.

3. All we have provided in all our articles are direct references from Sahih Hadiths and translations of Quran as published by Islamic publications recognized among Muslim scholars. So if you consider all this to be nonsense, you are actually supporting our own standpoint – that these publications are nonsense.

4. On Muhammad, we have very clearly stated our stand. We consider him a good person but demonized by a fake Quran and stupid Hadiths attributed falsely to his name.

5. MJ never accepted Islam. That was a false story propagated by fraud Dawah agents. Check the latest details on the hoax. What was education and intellectual capability of Cat Stevens? If Islam is so true, why people like Ali Sina quit islam despite greatest threats to life? Many others: Taslima Nasreen, Anwar Sheikh, Ibn Waraq, etc.

Tell me great contributions of Muslims in last 50 years to world in science, technology, intellect etc?

Watch this from a Muslim himself – greatest intellectual from Pakistan: He states that Muslims are weak in Maths and intelligence, and contributed absolutely zero to world. Because their ruling elite kept them Jaahil.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMP-1kmVNc

Zakir naike God Bless you and I pray for you The Lord Almighty give a Good knowllege to you because you Proof again and again as Muhhamad is Massanger of Devil. Devil use to Muhhamad Destroyed the Nation by his Power. We give you thnx to You Zakir because you Increes my faith in again Reject a False religion Islam.

The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46: “Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names.” [Rigveda 1:164:46] 2.

The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.

Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.

Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:

“Na tasya Pratima asti” “There is no image of Him.” [Yajurveda 32:3]

Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or ‘Sustainer’ or Vishnu. But the popular image of

9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]

Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.

“Na tasya pratima asti” “There is no likeness of Him”

The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being: 3.

The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be ‘Ahm at hi’ and translated the mantra as “I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father”. 2.

Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah. 3.

The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba Chapter 34 verse 28 (34:28):

this foolish argument by Dr. Naik has been debunked way back in 2008 by Dr. Radhasyam Brahmchari

Islam is a creed that cannot survive without lies. Any so called Islamic scholar, whenever presents a discourse on Islam before a non-Muslim civilized audience, begins with a blatant lie that Islam means piece. While, in fact, Islam is just the opposite of that called peace. Though it is well-known that Islam treats women no better than domestic animals- simply as objects for satiation of lust and a machine for procreation of children, these scholars say that the Koran has given dignity to women and Islam provides equal rights for men and women. While the Koran clearly states that each and every non-Muslim is a kafir, but these scholars, solely to confuse the entire non-Muslim population in the world, tell lies and say the word kafir stands for an atheist. The Koran clearly states that, jihad is the all-out war, which is to be waged against the non-Muslim kakirs to slaughter them en-masse by bloody massacre and bring the entire world under the banner of Islam, these scholars tells lies and say that jihad is a mental war between good and bad in a man.

As a matter of fact, Islam considers telling lies to infidels or to give false testimony against them in the court of law for the benefit of Islam and for the benefit of jihad, a religious duty for every Muslim. Furthermore, the practice is called taqiyya or holy deception. Allah admires attaches merit to such a liar and rewards him profusely on the the day of last judgment (Qiyamah). Recently, a Muslim commentator has clarified that on three occasions, like (i) in war, (ii) or to win over a women’s heart and (iii) or for deceiving the infidels, lying is not a sin for the Muslims. So it is evident that Dr Zakir Naik will also be profusely rewarded by Allah for deceiving the infidels with his lies.

It has been said earlier that this author has several video CDs containing lecture sessions of Dr Zakir Naik and in two of them Dr Naik tries to establish similarities between Hinduism and Islam. As usual, the lecture begins with condemnation of Hinduism and he says that name Hindu has only geographical significance and the term has been imported by outsiders or foreign invaders to identify the people of India and their culture. But the holy book of Islam, or Koran mentions Islam as a religion in several places such as verses 19, 85, 119 and 185 of the Sura Al Imran (the 3rd Sura). Moreover, Koran mentions Musalman in the verse 64 of the same Sura. Hearing his words the audience, mostly Muslim blockheads, is seen to be jubilant. But no one audience pointed out that a religion should be judged not by the name, but by the message it carries. However, Dr Naik , later on, clarifies and says that the real name of Hinduism is Sanatana Dharma, or Eternal Religion. Though there is no English word equivalent to the Sanskrit word Dharma, the word religion is usually taken as the English equivalent of Dharma.

Dr Naik then clarifies that Islam is not a new religion originated by Prophet Muhammad 1400 years ago, and it came into being as soon as Allah created the first human being Adam in heaven. In my previous article “A Few Questions to Dr Zakir Naik on Islam”, I have shown that Allah created Adam not earlier than 4,127 years ago, and hence Islam, according to Dr Naik’s claim, cannot be older than the same number of years. But how old are the Vedas? Dr Naik admits that, according to Western scholars, the Vedas are the oldest literature of the mankind. But then ridicules the Hindus and says that they are polytheists and worship many Gods, while Muslims worship only one God Allah.

But it seems that Dr Naik is not aware that Hinduism is the oldest monotheist religion in the world. Apparently it appears to a commoner that Hinduism is polytheistic as Hindus worship idols of many deities. But whosoever has tried to delve into it has found that Hinduism is absolutely monotheistic. In Hinduism, God (or Îúvara) is one, but deities are many. Even a Hindu child knows that, all these deities are the manifestations of one God (Iúvara or Brahman). So the seers of the Vedas say,

Ekṃ sadviprâ bahudhâ vadanti Agniṃ Yamaṃ Mâtariúvânam âhuḥ -RV (1/164/46). (God is one but people call Him by many names like Agni, yama, Mâtariúvâ etc.) or

Suparṇ Viprâḥ kavayo bacobhirekaṃ santaṃ vahudhâ kalpayanti- RV (10/114/5). (Him (With fair wings though there is only One (bird), sages imagin many). So, when Dr Naik designates Hinduism a polytheistic religion and ridicules Hindus for worshiping many Gods, he exposes his ignorance of even a b c of Hinduism.

According to Dr Naik, Islam is the only religion that is strictly monotheistic, as its followers worship only one God Allah. But it seems, from Koran and other Islamic scriptures, that Allah is not confident that he is the only God in the world (not in the universe as Allah is aware only about heaven and earth).

Had Allah been the only God, it would not have been possible for man to find another God to worship. And had Allah been confident that there is no other God except him, he should not have been jealous of another God. For example, let us imagine a village where there is only one well as the source of fresh water. Hence there would not have been any difference whether the villagers drink water from a glass or from a pitcher, or from a jug. And as there is not an alternative source, it must have been derived from that lone well. In a similar manner, if Allah knew that there is no other God, he would have been confident that people will not find another God to worship.

But the behavioral pathern of Allah suggests that he is not confident that he is the only God. He seems always to be suspicious that there may be another God and people may worship that God instead of him and thus they may create a partner to him. So the scared Allah warns man not to worship another God or create a partner to him and says, “Say, ‘people of the Book, let us come to an agreement: that we will worship none but Allah, that we will associate none with Him, and that none of us shall set up mortals as deities besides Allah” (3: 64) [tr: N J Dawood (only the word God replaced by Allah].

In this context, it should be mentioned here that, as the Hindu God is confident that He is the only God in this universe, He does not become jealous of another God and says,

“O Kaunteya (Arjuna), even those who worship other gods with devotion (bhakti), they do really worship Me, though the rite differ from the norm” (tr: R C Zaehner). The Hindu God does not become angry and say, “you have committed the foulest sin by worshiping other gods or associating partner (shirk) with Me and I shall throw you in hell fire as a punishment for this sin, because He is confident that He is the only God, and no one could find another God to worship.

To speak the truth, Allah is not a god at all. Allah is a cruel tyrant, a barbaric killer and a violent despot. In fact, the Islamic Umma is the biggest criminal gang on earth and Allah is leader and guide of that criminal gang and is trying to establish himself as the God of the world (not of the universe) with the help of the mujahidin through terror and bloodshed. He is therefore always scared that a member of his gang may slip out of his grip and start to worship that real God, the real ruler of the universe. So he has enforced strict law that if any one of his gang tries to desert the gang, he should immediately be declared an apostate and put to death. One should also notice that, this is the standing rule of every other underworld criminal gang. If any member of the gang leaves the gang, even with the intention of leading a decent life, the other members of the gang murder him instantly due to the reason that he may disclose the secrets of the gang.

Allah in the Ṛgveda:

It has been mentioned earlier that the lectures of Dr Zakir Naik are full of naked lies. The reader should also recall that, the most merciful and all knowing and all observing Allah has given clean chit to these people like Zakir Naik to tell any lie, to do any mischief and play any deception with the kafirs, if it helps to influence them and bring them under Allah’s fold or for propagation of Islam. And Dr Zakir Naik makes unrelenting use of that command of Allah in all his lectures. So, his claim that Allah is mentioned in the Ṛgveda is also a pure lie. Dr Naik says that the verses (2/1/11), (3/30/10), (9/67/30) and (1/13/9) of the Ṛgveda contain mentioning of Allah. When I opened the Ṛgveda, I was really dumbfounded that a man like Dr Zakir Naik, the president of a recognized institute like the Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) in Mumbai, could propagate such blatant lies and that too in open gatherings.

The reader should recall that the word Âllâh has been derived from two Arabic words âl (the) and ilâh (anobject of worship). In Ṛgveda, there is a word iḷâ, with a completely different meaning. But Dr Naik, whenever could find the Sanskrit word iḷâ in the Ṛgveda, he, as his sacred duty of holy deceiption (taqyya), has declared it as mentioning of Allah, without a second thought. For example, the verse (2/1/11) of Ṛgveda says, Tvamagne aditirdeva dâúuṣe tvaṃ hotrâ bhâratî bardhase girâz Tvamiḷâ úatahimasi dakṣase tvaṃ bṛtrahâ vasupate sarasvatî zz

“Thou, God (Agni), art Aditi to him who offers gifts: thou Hotrâ, Bhâratî, art strengthed by the song. Tthou art the hundred-wintered Iḷâ to give strength, O Lord of wealth! Vṛtra-slayer and sarasvatî” [tr: ibid]. According to Sâyana, the most celebrated commentator on the Vedas, iḷâ is the other name of Agni (the deity of fire). Furthermore, the entire Hymn (2/1) has been dedicated to God Agni and hence there is no doubt that the word iḷâ in the verse stands for Agni.

The word iḷâ also occurs in the verse (1/13/9) of the Ṛgveda, that reads,

Iḷâ, sarasvatî mahî tisro devîrmayobhuvaḥ z Varhiḥ sîdantasridhaḥ zz

“Iḷâ, Sarasvatî and Mahî, three godesses who bring delight, be seated, peaceful, on the grass”. In this verse, Iḷâ is a godess and, according to Sâyana, Iḷâ in this verse may stand for earth, or cow, or vâc (speech).

In a similar manner, there is another word Alâ in the Ṛgveda that refers to various deities. The verse (3/30/10) contains the word and says,

“He who withheld the kine, in silence yielded in fear before thy blow, O Indra. He made paths easy to drive forth the cattle. Loud-breathing praises helped the much-invoked One” [tr: ibid]. Here, Alâ is the other name of Indra. The entire Hymn (3/30) has been dedicated to Indra and this confirms that the word Alâ in the verse refers to Indra. But, as the word Alâ sounds like Allah, Dr Zakir Naik, like a fool, has taken it to be a mentioning of Allah.

The word Alâ also occurs in the verse (9/67/30) of the Ṛgveda that says,

– “O, deva Soma, we pray to you so that the battle-axe of our enemy gets broken- Alâ, you descend and kill our irretating enemy”. Though the Hymn (9/67) has been dedicated to both Soma and Agni, scholars believe that the word Alâ in this verse refers to Soma or the Moon (or Soma) .

According to Dr Zakir Naik, every Sanskrit dictionary contains the word Allah and says that Allah is the God. In the most authentic Sanskrit-English Dictionary by Monier Williams (A Sanskrit-English Dictionary, Motilal Benarasidass, Delhi,1981), the present author could not find the word Âllah. The words, this author could find that sound like Allah are; Al (to be competent or able), Ala (the sting in the tail of a scorpion), Alât (a firebrand or coal) and Âla (spawn, any discharge of poisonous matter from a venomous animal). Another authentic Sanskrit-English Dictionary (The Student’s Sanskrit-English Dictionary by Vaman Shivaram Apte, Motilal Benarasidass, Delhi, 2005), there is a word Allâ and says that it stands for mother.

Conclusion:

From the discussions presented above, it becomes evident that, all the utterences of Dr Zakir Naik regarding mentioning of Allah in the Ṛgveda and in the Sanskrit dictionaries are pure lies. But the question remains: Why Dr Naik is hell bent on to discover mentioning of Allah in Sanskrit literature? It has been mentioned earlier that Allah is most merciful and kind (Rahmanir Rahim) only to the Muslims. But for the non-Muslim kafirs, Allah is cruel beast and a barbaric killer. And most importantly, Allah is not at all the God or Lord of this creation and Dr Naik is striving hard to dignify Allah and to establish him as the God by discovering his name in the Vedas. His efforts are nothing but finding a pedigree for Allah.

and here’s the piece on Muhammad in the vedas by Dr. Radhasyam Brahmachari

Whosoever has tried to go through a biography of the Prophet Muhammad authored by a Muslim, has noticed that the toughest task these authors face is to explain the Prophet’s marriages. If they take ten pages to narrate his marriages, they use more than hundred pages to justify those marriages. Why the Prophet took so many wives at his declining age? These authors don’t have any plausible reply to this question. The first and foremost duty of these authors is to rule out that sensuality of the Prophet had any role to play in his marriages. The best explanation they furnish is that the Prophet was so kind hearted that he married widows to provide food and shelter for them. In support of their argument they provide evidence that most of his wives were widows. Very nice, the Prophet played a saviour for the widows. But difficulty arises to explain his marrying Zeinab, the wife his adopted son Zeid, with the above argument as she was not a widow and as the incident exposes the indomitable sensuality of the Prophet (which Allah endorsed by revealing the verse (33:37) of the Holy Qur’an). Similar difficulty arises in explaining his marrying Rihana as well as Safia.

The explanations they import to explain these marriages may however be acceptable to the blockheads called believers, but horribly unacceptable for the civilized world. But the hardest task these authors face is to explain his marrying Ayesha at the age of 52, while Ayesha was a child of 6. Syed Amir Ali is an Indian author renowned for his book Spirit of Islam. In that book Mr Amir Ali says that the only intention that motivated the Prophet to marry Ayesha was to cement his friendship with Abu-bakr. Perhaps it is known to all that Muhammad and Abu-bakr underwent an understanding that Muhammad would give his daughter Fatima to Abu-bakr in marriage and Abu-bakr would give his daughter Ayesha to Muhammad. This kind of marriage, called Shighar Marriage, is still in vogue in Muslim society and the reader may recall that Osama bin-Laden married the daughter of Omar, the second man of Al Kaida, and Omar married the daughter of Osama. However, according to the said understanding, Muhammad married Ayesha in the first Hijra at the Abu-bakr’s house in Medina, But Muhammad delayed to perform his part of the agreement. After waiting for months, when Abu-bakr inquired about the delay, the Prophet replied that he was waiting for a command from Allah in the matter and that command never came. So, had Muhammad married Ayesha for cementing his relation with Abu-bakr, as mentioned by Mr Amir Ali, Muhammad must have given Fatima to Abu-bakr for a better cementing. Hence the argument furnished by Amir Ali does not seem to be tenable.

A Bengali author, M Abdur Rahman, has tried to explain it completely from a different angle. He asserts that, Muhammad married Ayesha to dispose off a great social responsibility. At that time, there was an urgent need to educate the Muslim women of Arabia about the extremely delicate sexual matters. But he being a male, was not fit to teach such lessons to the women. So he married Ayesha to be used as a vehicle to educate the women in sexual matters. Nice, but why he had chosen a tender girl like Ayesha? To explain this point, Mr Abdur Rahman says that a tender mind is most suitable for receiving education and that was the reason for marrying Ayesha. But it is really surprising that neither Amir Ali nor Abdur Rahman has furnished the most convincing argument, i.e. the will of Allah. Allah sent his divine sanction to Muhammad for marrying Ayesha in the form of dreams. For three consecutive nights the angel Zibrail (Gabriel of the Bible) showed a picture of Ayesha to the Prophet and said, “This is your wife.” For the first two nights, the Prophet could not recognize whose picture it was. But in the third night the he could recognize beyond doubt that it was a picture of Ayesha. So he had no other option but to comply with Allah’s divine instruction as soon as possible.

It should be noted here that whatever might be their arguments, reasoning and explanations, these authors must have to reach only one conclusion that, Muhammad was the greatest man on earth. If the conclusion deviates even by an inch, their life would be at stake. These authors also face difficulty in explaining some other deeds of the Prophet like massacring the Beni Koreiza at Madina, massacring the Beni Najir at Kheibar, shedding of blood in the holy month of Rajab at Nakhla and so on. It is obvious that it is really a hard task for these authors to explain so many blots and project him as the greatest and a flawless man on earth. It is needless to say that the task becomes much easier if it can be shown that there are foretelling of Muhammad in established and recognized holy books of other faiths like the Bible, Zend-Avesta, and, most importantly, the Sanskrit texts of the Hindus.

The Rig-Veda is globally recognized and accepted as the oldest book created by man and hence if it could be shown that there is mentioning of Muhammad in that text, it will be immensely helpful to paint the Arabian Prophet as a divine personality. Not only that, it will be helpful to deceive the Hindus and convert them to Islam. So, it does not become difficult to understand what has inspired Dr Zakir Naik to discover mentioning of Muhammad in the Rig-Veda and in other Hindu texts. But as his investigation culminated into a failure, he had no other way but to apply stupid arguments to befool the kafirs.

First of all, we should see what the Rig-Veda says about Muhammad. It should also be mentioned at the outset that two Sanskrit words śaṃsata and narāśaṃsa play the central role in Dr Naik’s arguments. According to him, the word śaṃsata stands for an individual who praises. In Arabic, such an individual is called Ahammad, the other name Prophet Muhammad. Therefore wherever he could have found the word śaṃsata, he took it as the mentioning of their Prophet. According to Zakir Naik, the second word narāśaṃsa means an individual who is to be praised or who is praiseworthy. The Arabic word Muhammad means a man who is praiseworthy. So, wherever he could have found the word narāśaṃsa, he took it to be a mentioning of Muhammad. It should be mentioned here that, where such silly arguments may lead one to. Every English dictionary contains the word praiseworthy, and, according to Zakir Naike, every English dictionary mentions the name of Muhammad. More seriously, such foolish arguments may lead one to an extremely ridiculous– goats have beard and Mr X has beard, and hence Mr X is a goat – like conclusion.

In fact, both the Sanskrit words śaṃsata and narāśaṃsa stand for a deity or God, who is praiseworthy. According to Sāyana, the most reputed commentator of the Vedas, the word narāśaṃsa means a deity or a respectable entity (not a man) that deserves to be praised by man.

However, we should have a closer look to see what Zakir Naik has to say. According to Zakir Naik, the verses (1/13/3), (1/18/9), (1/106/4), (1/142/3), (2/3/2), (5/5/2), (7/2/2), (10/64/3) and (10/182/2) of the Rig-Veda contain the word narāśaṃsa and hence mention Muhammad and the verse (8/1/1) of the Rig-Veda contains the word śaṃsata (Ahmmad), or the other name of Muhammad. In my earlier submission “Allah in the Vedas: The Treachery of Dr Zakir Naike, I have shown what kinds of dark lies Dr Naik can propagate. Here also he begins with another blatant lie and says that the word śaṃsata stands for a man who praises, the Arabic equivalent of Ahammad and hence mentions Muhammad. The said verse (8/1/1) of the Rig-Veda reads:

Mā cidanyadvi śaṃsata sakhāyo mā riṣṇyata l

Indramitstot ā vṛṣaṇaṃ sacā sute muhurukthā ca śaṃsata ll (8/1/1)

– Glorify naught besides, O friends; so shall no sorrow trouble you. Praise only mighty Indra when the juice is shed, and say your lauds repeatedly. (Translation: R T H Griffith; The Hymns of the Ṛgveda, Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi; 1995, p-388). So the word śaṃsata (praiseworthy) in the above verse refers to deity Indra, and not a man who praises (Ahammad) as claimed by Dr Zakir Naike.

We shall now see what the verses containing the word narāśaṃsa say. In Rig-veda, a verse is refered as (x/y/z), where x stands for Mandala, y stands for Sukta and z stands for the Verse or Ṛk The verse (1/13/3) of Rig-Veda, as mentioned above, belongs to 13th Sukta of the 1st Mandala. It should also be noted here that every Sukta of the Rig-veda is dedicated to a deity. The presiding deity of the 13th Sukta of the 1st Mandala is Agni (the God of Fire). The verse says:

Narāśaṃsamiha priyamasminajña upahvaye l

Madhujihvat haviṣkṛtam ll (1/13/3)

– Dear Narāśaṃsa, sweet of toungue, the giver of oblations, I invoke to this our sacrifice (tr: ibid, p-7). As Agni is the deity of the entire 13th Sukta, there is no doubt that the word narāśaṃsa (praiseworthy to man) in the verse refers to Agni. One should also note that the word narāśaṃsa does signify a man who is praiseworthy, as claimed by Dr Zakir Naik.

The verse (1/18/9) of the Rig-Veda says:

Narāśaṃsaṃ sudhṛṣṭamamapaśyam saprathastam l

Divo na sadmakhasam ll (1/18/9)

– I have seen Narāśaṃsa , him most resolute, most widely famed, as ‘twere the Household Priest of heaven (tr: ibid, p-11). The 18th Sukta, to which the verse belongs, is dedicated to Brahmaṇaspati, the Priest of heaven and hence the word narāśaṃsa (praiseworthy to man) in this verse refers to Brahmaṇaspati, the Priest of heaven.

– To mighty Narāśaṃsa, strengthening his might, to Pūṣaṇa , ruler over men, we pray with hymns. Even as a chariot from a difficult ravine, bountiful Vasus, rescue us from all distress (tr: ibid, p-69). The 106th Sukta of 1st Mandala, to which the verse belongs, is dedicated to Viśvadevas, and hence the word narāśaṃsa (praiseworthy to man) in this verse refers to Viśvadevas.

The verse (1/142/3) of the Rig-Veda says:

śuci pāvako adbhuto madhvā yajñaṃ mimikṣati l

Narāśaṃsasthrirā divo devo deveṣu yajñiyaḥ ll (1/142/3)

-He wondrous, sanctifying, bright, sprinkles the sacrifice with mead, thrice, Narāśaṃsa from the heavens, a God mid Gods adorable (tr: ibid, p-98). The 142nd Sukta, to which the versae belongs, is dedicated to to deity Āprī, and hence the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Āprī. Most of the scholars agree that Āprī is the other name of Agni and hence the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Agni, the god of fire.

– May Narāśaṃsa lighting up the chambers, bright in his majesty through threefold heaven, steeping the gift with oil diffusing purpose, bedew the Gods at chiefest time of worship (tr: ibid, p- 132). Like the earler one, 142nd Sukta of 1st Mandal, this present 3rd Sukta of 2nd Mandala, is dedicated to the deity Āprī or Agni and hence the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Agni the the Fire God.

The Verse (5/5/2) of Rig-Veda says:

Narāśaṃsaḥ suṣūdatīmṃ yajñamadābhyaḥ l Kavirhi madhūhastāḥ ll (5/5/2)

– He, Narāśaṃsa, ne’er beguiled, inspiriteth this sacrifice; for sage is he, with sweets in hand (tr: ibid, p- 240). This 5th Sukta of 5th Mandala is also dedicated to Āprī or Agni and hence the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Agni the Fire God.

– With sacrifice to these we men will honour the majesty of holy Narāśaṃsa – to these the pure, most wisw, the thought-inspires, Gods who enjoy both sorts of our oblations (tr: ibid, p- 334). Again this 2nd Sukta of 7th Mandala is dedicated to Āprī or Agni, and hence the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Agni the Fire God.

– To Narāśaṃsa and Pūṣaṇ I sing forth, uncocealable Agni kindled by the Gods. To Sun and Moon, two Moons, to Yama in the heaven, to Trita, Vāta, Dawn, Night and A śvins Twain (tr: ibid, p- 578). This 64th Sukta of 10th Mandala is dedicated to Viśvadevas, and the word narāśaṃsa in this verse refers to Viśvadevas.

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There are 100+ verses in Quran encouraging Muslims to fight against non-Muslims. Until Quran exists terrorism also exists.

answer me which one encouraged Arabs to use the Sword against that whole world for 1400 Years?

look at the death rate by Arabs/Muslims

Christians 60 Million Hindus 80 Million Buddhists 10 Million Africans 120 Million TOTAL 270 Million

Did you ever here…an Emperor staying in a small house (a length of 10×6) ???

Did you ever hear an Emperor saying…don’t praise me…????

Did you ever hear a religion preacher saying “I am a slave to God…”…

Did you ever hear…that a person who totally changed the lives of ppl and eradicated poverty for ever…???

Did you ever hear an emperor saying….Don’t bow before me…???

Did you ever hear….ppl scolding an emperor before him and was allowed to live in the same empire….???

Did you ever hear a King lending money from others (Jews) and getting scoldings from them….while as an emperor…..???

Just because u have stated the hadith….u cannot say truth is in hell…his life was really beautiful…???

Truth always wins…Mohammed was a great emperor as well as a religious preacher, a great warrior, a great ruler, a great thinker, a great lover of the human society, a person who is known for his qualities, a person who makes the change in the world, a person…

Please analyze Sir…I really love Mohammed because of his great qualities…

His way of life is practical and he changed the lives of so many ppl…even now as a slave of God…

If his character happens to be like that….think if anybody would have followed him….think logically…any ladies would have liked him…

I am ready to answer your one question….”Did you ever hear an emperor whose name is the source of inspiration for most of the suicide bombers and mass murderers even today???”… Ans: Since bcoz of some stupid is doing that…it is not what he said…it is not what he asked to do to others…??? I think you need to learn much…..

Rest other questions, you use your brain to understand…imagine the life of ppl at that time and how he would have changed it…

His life was really beautiful and I also love Mohammed…since it has meaning….he changed the lives of ppl…Go and read the full life history of him and then quote Sir…..

I dont want ppl to quote…Don’t do wrong things…try to prove as Mohammed has proved over his lifetime…in making the change over the life of the ppl…

People at his time are not mad to blindly accept a concept, loved him and followed him…which he proposed at that time…since bcoz his personal and official life was beautiful…ppl loved him that much…

Just think Sir….Don’t say what other say….God has given brain to think…just use it for sometime…

Truth will not fail…It will succeed definitely…I consider his life is full of faith and truth….as his enemies called him…he is a trustable person but gone mad…even enemies praised him as trustable person…

His two friends ‘Abubakr’ and ‘Omar’…they were the remarkable persons in the world history…Their ruling is too good as it was appreciated by Jews and Christians at that time…

They hate Mohammed not bcoz of his character….but bcoz of his principles…just read some more…Sir…

I really admired by his preachings and his way of life which he left it as an example of everyone to follow…Really he was too good, beautiful….interesting guy…he touched my heart by his character…

SSS Laa Haul Valaa Kuvvat Illah Billah! So you mean Quran and Sahih Hadith are wrong! Every point that I made is either taken from Quran or Sahih Ahadith and Seerat. Now after denying divinity of Quran and Ahadith you are no more a Muslim my friend.

[58:2]Those who pronounce thihar among you [to separate] from their wives – they are not [consequently] their mothers. Their mothers are none but those who gave birth to them. And indeed, they are saying an objectionable statement and a falsehood. But indeed, Allah is Pardoning and Forgiving.

In this he says only one mother, but later, how smartly he protected his wives by revealing another ayats [33:6] The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their (believers’) mothers (as regards respect and marriage). And blood relations among each other have closer personal ties in the Decree of Allah (regarding inheritance) than (the brotherhood of) the believers and the Muhajirun (emigrants from Makkah, etc.), except that you do kindness to those brothers (when the Prophet SAW joined them in brotherhood ties). This has been written in the (Allah’s Book of Divine) Decrees (AlLauh AlMahfuz) [33:53] O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.

All those verses are contradicting each other, any logical person can understand the contradiction in those verse, since the pedophilia want to save his wives he smartly revealed [33:6] and [33:53] ayats. Fraud prophet.

Let me suggest AgniveerJi to write an elaborate article to analyze the above three verses in Quran to expose the fraud of Muhammad to save his wives.

Did I say anywhere I am a muslim…..??? Dont imagine the things…you ppl have lot of imagination but no analytical thinking….Just analyze…you ppl have very less analyzing capacity….Better to increase them and talk with me…

See the text below….

According to Watt and Richard Bell, recent writers have generally dismissed the idea that Muhammad deliberately deceived his followers, arguing that Muhammad “was absolutely sincere and acted in complete good faith”. Modern secular historians generally decline to address the question of whether the messages Muhammad reported being revealed to him were from “his unconscious, the collective unconscious functioning in him, or from some divine source”, but they acknowledge that the material came from “beyond his conscious mind.”Watt says that sincerity does not directly imply correctness: In contemporary terms, Muhammad might have mistaken for divine revelation his own unconscious. William Montgomery Watt states:

“ Only a profound belief in himself and his mission explains Muhammad’s readiness to endure hardship and persecution during the Meccan period when from a secular point of view there was no prospect of success. Without sincerity how could he have won the allegiance and even devotion of men of strong and upright character like Abu-Bakr and ‘Umar ? … There is thus a strong case for holding that Muhammad was sincere. If in some respects he was mistaken, his mistakes were not due to deliberate lying or imposture ….the important point is that the message was not the product of Muhammad’s conscious mind. He believed that he could easily distinguish between his own thinking and these revelations. His sincerity in this belief must be accepted by the modern historian, for this alone makes credible the development of a great religion. The further question, however, whether the messages came from Muhammad’s unconscious, or the collective unconscious functioning in him, or from some divine source, is beyond the competence of the historian.”

Rudi Paret agrees, writing that “Muhammad was not a deceptor,” and Welch also holds that “the really powerful factor in Muhammad’s life and the essential clue to his extraordinary success was his unshakable belief from beginning to end that he had been called by God. A conviction such as this, which, once firmly established, does not admit of the slightest doubt, exercises an incalculable influence on others. The certainty with which he came forward as the executor of God’s will gave his words and ordinances an authority that proved finally compelling.”

Bernard Lewis, another modern historian, commenting on the common western Medieval view of Muhammad as a self-seeking impostor, states that

“ The modern historian will not readily believe that so great and significant a movement was started by a self-seeking impostor. Nor will he be satisfied with a purely supernatural explanation, whether it postulates aid of divine of diabolical origin; rather, like Gibbon, will he seek ‘with becoming submission, to ask not indeed what were the first, but what were the secondary causes of the rapid growth’ of the new faith ”

Watt rejects the idea of Muhammad’s moral failures from Meccan period to Medinian one and contends that such views has no solid grounds. He argues that “it is based on too facile a use of the principle that all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Watt interprets incidents in the Medinan period in such a way that they mark “no failure in Muhammad to live to his ideals and no lapse from his moral principles.”

Just have a proper analysis and say…its true or not…I also know all the above things you said…just quoting the things and speaking vulgarity….won’t help in a long extent…

As I said, Truth always wins…I am supporting Islam bcoz I love Mohammed as a person… but I hate Muslims bcoz they are not behaving in a proper way as said by Islam…don’t misinterpret the things…as though you know everything in the world…

Everyone knows only a drop…not an ocean…with this you cannot say he is a criminal or not…

If Mohammed is a criminal…i am the lawyer for him…you counter argue…but mind your words while arguing….better avoid vulgarity…

Brother TOTAGOTO has already argued few posts above and I also gave you some facts in my first comment. Its your turn to counter argue! And BTW, we will only quote hadith and verses from Quran. But if you find something vulgar there, its your problem that you have chosen a wrong client to defend! if you want to avoid vulgarity, go to Darul Uloom Deoband and get a Fatwa issued that all Ahadith are to be avoided!

but here we are arguing weather Islam is true religion r not , Muhammad is prophesied in Vedas r not and can we believe in Quran r not?

please answer me following Questions?

1. verses [58:2] [33:6] and [33:53] in Quran are contradicting each other r not? 2. If Quran is not from God, y we have to follow it? 3. Even if we consider Muhammad is a good person, y we have to add his name in our prayer?

also make sure one more thing, r u an Atheist or follower of any faith? since u mentioned u r not Muslim.

Muhammad violated Allah’s restriction on him on the number of his wives

When Muhammad married Zaynab bte. Jahsh, the wife of his adopted son, Zayd b. Harith, Allah was a little bit displeased with Muhammad’s audacious crave for young, beautiful, sexy women—married or single. So, Allah clamped down on Muhammad, sternly warning him that that was enough, that he could not accumulate further, any extra wives. Allah made Zaynab Muhammad’s wife number eight or nine—the last wife. Here is the verse where Allah forbade Muhammad to marry further after marrying Zaynab bint Jahsh: Allah put restriction on Muhammad’s marriage; he is not to take any new wife, neither exchange old wives for new… 33:52

033.052 YUSUFALI: It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and Allah doth watch over all things.

Let us have a look at the list of women with whom Muhammad had some kind of connection, including sexual. This list has been prepared from the book of Tabari (vol. ix, pp.120-141). Please note that this list is in chronological order. Highlighted in the list is the name of Zaynab bint Jahsh to demonstrate how flagrantly Muhammad had dishonoured Allah’s restriction on him—he had collected at least 13 more wives, a sex-slave and a concubine even when Allah commanded him to restrain his wife collection.

Muhammad had 21 wives. They were:

Khadijah bint Khuwaylid Sawdah bint Jamah Aisha bint Abu Bakr Hafsah bint Umar (Hafsha found Muhammad and Mariyah in her bed and she became hysterical (footnote 884, Tabari ix.131). Umm Salamah Juwayriyyah Umm Habiba bint Abi Sufyan Zaynab bint Jahsh Safiyyah bint Huyayy Maymunah bint Al-Harith Sana bint Asma or Saba bint Asma. She died before Muhammad consummated the marriage. al-Shama bint Amr al-Ghifariyaah. Muhammad divorced her for her doubting his prophethood. Ghaziyyah bint Jabir. She was previously married and had a son named Sharik. She was beautiful but she refused to consummate the marriage. Muhammad found her old (ibid, p.139); so he returned her to her people. Amrah bint Yazid. Some say she herself gave to Muhammad (33:50). Muhammad did not consummate the marriage. Asma bint Al-Numan. Muhammad found her suffering from leprosy; so he divorced her giving her compensation. Zaynab bint Khuzaymah—also called Umm al-Masakin (mother of the poor) Al-Aliyaah bint Zabyan. It is alleged that she peeped through her door at the people in the mosque. So Muhammad divorced her after paying her some compensation (ibid, footnote 919, p.138). Qutaylah bint Qays—but Muhammad died before he could consummate his marriage with her. She and her brother apostatized from Islam. Fatimah bint Shurayh (Sara). Kawlah bint Hudhayl Layla bt. Al-Khatim. She offered herself to Muhammad and Muhammad accepted her as his wife. Later, when her people admonished her for marrying Muhammad, she requested for a divorce and Muhammad divorced her. People used to say that Muhammad was a womaniser (Tabari, IX:139).

Mariyah bint Sham’un (Hafsah found Mariyah and Muhammad together in her bed and she was hysterical (Tabari, ix.131, footnote 884) Rayhanah bint Zayd al-Quraziyaah. Marriage not consummated:

Mulaykah bint Kab al-Laythi; Muhammad divorced her. Bint Jundub. Even the one of the most eminent commentators and translators of the Qur’an, Maulana Yusuf Ali admits that Muhammad had indeed transgressed the stipulation of the Qur’an.

Yusuf Ali (commentary number 3754, p. 1123) writes: “This was revealed in A.H. 7. After that the Prophet did not marry again, except the handmaiden Mary the Copt, who was sent as a present by the Christians Muaqauqas of Egypt. She became the mother of Ibrahim, who died in his infancy.”

Muhammad violated the Quranic law on the punishment for sex offenders

Fornication and adultery are two most serious offences in Islamic societies. These acts are worse than murder and plunder. The punitive measures, as enacted in the Qur’an, are truly extremely harsh and barbaric. Let us read the verse which deals with such grave crimes: Punishment for adultery or fornication (both man and woman) is one hundred lashes in front of the believers …24:2

024.022 YUSUFALI: The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.

Strangely, when it came to a friend of Muhammad, who admitted having committed a punishable offence (illegal sex, perhaps), Muhammad did not apply this Qur’anic rule. Here is a hadis from Sahih Bukhari on this violation of the Qur’an: Muhammad did not punish a person for illegal sexual intercourse because the person prayed with him… (Sahih Bukhari, 8.82.812)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 812 Narrated Anas bin Malik: While I was with the Prophet a man came and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! I have committed a legally punishable sin; please inflict the legal punishment on me’.’ The Prophet did not ask him what he had done. Then the time for the prayer became due and the man offered prayer along with the Prophet, and when the Prophet had finished his prayer, the man again got up and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! I have committed a legally punishable sin; please inflict the punishment on me according to Allah’s Laws.” The Prophet said, “Haven’t you prayed with us?’ He said, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “Allah has forgiven your sin.” or said, “….your legally punishable sin.”

Muhammad violated the Quranic code of conduct between marriageable couples

Please note that a man and a woman who are not close relatives (that is, those men and women who could be married to each other, those who are not in the prohibited class for marriage purposes) cannot, under any circumstances, be alone together. This moral guardianship is endorsed in these verses of the Qur’an: Believing men are to lower their gaze and guard modesty… 24:30

024.030 YUSUFALI: Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

Let us observe what Muhammad did with some single women, who could be married to him.

The first such woman was none but his first cousin-sister, Umm Hani bint Abu Talib. Muhammad passionately fell in love with her, but for some unknown reason his beloved uncle, Abu Talib did not give her hand to Muhammad when Muhammad requested. Instead, Abu Talib married her to a pagan, Hibayrah. But Muhammad’s adulterous relation with Umm Hani (real name Fakitah, also known as Hind) continued. He used to sleep in her house, when no one was around. Such an incidence took place when Muhammad returned from his failed mission at Taif, after the deaths of his first wife, Khadijah and his uncle Abu Talib. Returning from Taif, he took shelter in Ka’ba. But at nightfall, when everyone was asleep, he stealthily went to Umm Hani’s house and spent the night with her. In the morning, when the people did not find him at Ka’ba, they went looking for him. They found him in the house of Umm Hani. He was embarrassed. So was Umm Hani. To hide the truth, he concocted the story of his night journey to Jerusalem and Paradise from Umm Hani’s house (more precisely, from her bed), which many converts of Islam found too incredible to believe. They left Islam then and there. This made Muhammad sad and withdrawn. Soon, after such an adulterous affair was leaked, he left Mecca and settled in Medina. But his undying love for Umm Hani remained aflame.

Later, when Muhammad became militarily strong and conquered Mecca, he went to Umm Hani’s house and stayed with her overnight, praying and chit-chatting with her. Hubayrah, Umm Hani’s husband had foreseen the fall of Mecca and had fled to Najran. So, Umm Hani was living in her house, separated from her pagan husband, and Muhammad was there comforting her, in open transgression of the Qur’anic code. (Please consult: Martin Lings, p.33, 101, 103-104, 299; Ibn Ishaq, p.184, Tabari, vol.viii, p.186)

Here is a hadis from Sahih Bukhari which demonstrates Muhammad’s way with single women, divorced or widowed, rich or poor, for sex, which clearly violates the Qur’an.

A dignified woman, Jauniyaa (a princess) was brought to Muhammad to have sex with him but she was reluctant to give herself to him; Muhammad was angry and raised his hand to beat her… (Sahih Bukhari, 7.63.182)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 63, Number 182 Narrated Abu Usaid: We went out with the Prophet to a garden called Ash-Shaut till we reached two walls between which we sat down. The Prophet said, “Sit here,” and went in (the garden). The Jauniyya (a lady from Bani Jaun) had been brought and lodged in a house in a date-palm garden in the home of Umaima bint An-Nu’man bin Sharahil, and her wet nurse was with her. When the Prophet entered upon her, he said to her, “Give me yourself (in marriage) as a gift.” She said, “Can a princess give herself in marriage to an ordinary man?” The Prophet raised his hand to pat her so that she might become tranquil. She said, “I seek refuge with Allah from you.” He said, “You have sought refuge with One Who gives refuge. Then the Prophet came out to us and said, “O Abu Usaid! Give her two white linen dresses to wear and let her go back to her family.” Narrated Sahl and Abu Usaid: The Prophet married Umaima bint Sharahil, and when she was brought to him, he stretched his hand towards her. It seemed that she disliked that, whereupon the Prophet ordered Abu Usaid to prepare her and to provide her with two white linen dresses. (See Hadith No. 541).

Readers should note that the woman mentioned in the above hadis was a minor, because her ‘wet nurse’ was with her when Muhammad wanted to have free sex with her. Also note that this child‑girl was perhaps naked when she met Muhammad, because Muhammad instructed Abu Usaid to cover her with white linen.

Muhammad violated the Qur’anic rule on sex and fondling with menstruating women

On menstruating women, the Qur’an says: Menstruation is a disease; can’t have sex during a woman’s period; after the period is over have sex in any manner, at any time and at any place… 2:222

022.222 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning women’s courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them in any manner, time, or place ordained for you by Allah. For Allah loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.

Please note that in verse 2:222 the Qur’an clearly says: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean.

Let us examine what Muhammad did to his wives when they were in heavy menstruation: During Aisha’s period Muhammad used to fondle her in bath. When menstruating Aisha used to wash Muhammad’s head…(Sahih Bukhari 1.6.298).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6 Number 298 Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).

Muhammad used to fondle his wives when they were menstruating…(Sahih Bukhari 1.6.299)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299 Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad: (on the authority of his father) ‘Aisha said: “Whenever Allah’s Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her.” ‘Aisha added, “None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could.”

Muhammad used to embrace his menstruating wives after covering their private parts… (Sahih Muslim 3.0578)

Sahih Muslim Book 003, Number 0578 ‘A’isha reported: When anyone amongst us was menstruating the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) asked her to tie waist-wrapper during the time when the menstrual blood profusely flowed and then embraced her; and she (’A’isha) observed: And who amongst you can have control over his desires as the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had over his desires.

Muhammad put his cheek and chest in between the naked thighs of a menstruating Aisha…(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 1.0270)

Sunaan Abu Dawud Volume i, Number 0270 Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: Umarah ibn Ghurab said that his paternal aunt narrated to him that she asked Aisha: What if one of us menstruates and she and her husband have no bed except one? She replied: I relate to you what the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) had done.

One night he entered (upon me) while I was menstruating. He went to the place of his prayer, that is, to the place of prayer reserved (for this purpose) in his house. He did not return until I felt asleep heavily, and he felt pain from cold. And he said: Come near me. I said: I am menstruating. He said: Uncover your thighs. I, therefore, uncovered both of my thighs. Then he put his cheek and chest on my thighs and I lent upon he until he became warm and slept.

sir, plz tell me the sources,,,,all u hav written here is utter nonsense…go to a renowned bookstore and buy the true translated quran and hadiths…. im sure u hav taken these lies from another islam hating forum…

TODAY’S JIHADISTS (suicide bombers) are murdering innocent, ordinary Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sudan, Nigeria, Somalia and other parts of the world to establish Allah’s laws. By Allah’s law they mean to institute the rules and regulations prescribed principally in the Qur’an, and in other Islamic holy books of Islam, such as hadis. These ardent soldiers of Allah staunchly believe Qur’an to be the infallible words of Allah, which are so sacrosanct that even Muhammad could have never violated.

But this is just a fib. When we diligently study the biography of Muhammad and the ahadith we find quite a few examples where Muhammad had openly transgressed the provisions in the Qur’an. Sex was an important aspect of Muhammad’s life. His unbridled indulgence in sex had, on many occasions, forced him to violate Allah’s rule overtly. To suppress his breach of the Qur’anic laws on sex and sexuality, he, as usual, concocted stories of Allah’s exemption to His dearest friend. In this essay I am exposing the hypocrisy of some Islamists who claim adamantly that Muhammad could have never violated the Qur’an. Besides sex, we also learn from the history of Islam that Muhammad had flagrantly violated many aspects of the Qur’an. It is important to learn about this aspect of Muhammad to characterize him as person of conniving, cunning and opportunistic disposition. This essay will expose the Islamic hypocrisy that Muhammad was a divine person, commanded by Allah to implement Allah’s laws on humanity.

Here are a few examples of how Muhammad had violated the most sacred book of Allah, the Qur’an.

Muhammad broke the rule on sex and foreplay during fasting

What the Holy Qur’an says about sex during fasting time: During fasting, sexual activity is for the night only… 2:187

002.187 YUSUFALI: Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah: Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men: that they may learn self-restraint.

Here is what Muhammad did while observing fast: Muhammad slept with Umm Salama during her period, kissed her while fasting and used to take bath from the same pot after having sex… (Sahih Bukhari 1.6.319)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 319

Narrated Zainab bint Abi Salama: Um-Salama said, “I got my menses while I was lying with the Prophet under a woollen sheet. So I slipped away, took the clothes for menses and put them on. Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Have you got your menses?’ I replied, ‘Yes.’ Then he called me and took me with him under the woollen sheet.” Um Salama further said, “The Prophet used to kiss me while he was fasting. The Prophet and I used to take the bath of Janaba from a single pot.”

While fasting, Muhammad kissed and embraced his wives…(Sahih Bukhari 3.31.149)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 31, Number 149

Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet used to kiss and embrace (his wives) while he was fasting, and he had more power to control his desires than any of you. Said Jabir, “The person who gets discharge after casting a look (on his wife) should complete his fast.”

Muhammad used to kiss and suck Aisha’s tongue while they were fasting… (Sunaan Abu Dawud 13.2380)

Sunaan Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2380:

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to kiss her and suck her tongue when he was fasting.

Muhammad violated the Qur’anic rules on dower (mehr) and the time of waiting (idda)) in marrying a divorced/widowed woman

When Muhammad captured Khaybar, he took as a captive, Safiyyah bt Huyayy, a very pretty teenage girl and purportedly married her without paying her any dowry (mahr). The payment of mahr is compulsory in every Islamic marriage.

First, we shall examine how Muhammad violated the rule of dower. This rule is stipulated in the Qur’an thus:

To marry a woman, pay her dowry as a free-gift… 4:4

004.004 YUSUFALI: And give the women (on marriage) their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, Take it and enjoy it with right good cheer.

To hide his deception, Muhammad claimed that marrying Safiyyah was in itself a good honour for her, her dowry was her manumission from being a sex-slave to Muhammad.

Let us read the following hadis.

Muhammad consummated his marriage with Saffiyah by staying with her for three days on way from Khaybar; he ordered her to wear a veil… (Sahih Bukhari, 5.59.523, 524)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 524

Narrated Anas: The Prophet stayed for three nights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to his marriage banquet and there was neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, “Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses” Some of them said, “If the Prophet makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet’s wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave.” So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil.

Anas b Malik said: When the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married Safiyyah, he stayed with her three nights. The narrator ‘Uthman added: She was non-virgin (previously married). He said: This tradition has been narrated to me by Hushaim, reported by Humaid, and transmitted by Anas.

Saffiya’s dower for marriage was her manumission… (Sahih Muslim, 8.3326)

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3326

This hadith has been narrated through another chain of transmitters on the authority of Anas that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) emancipated Safiyya, and her emancipation was treated as her wedding gift, and in the hadith transmitted by Mu’adh on the authority of his father (the words are):” He (the Holy Prophet) married Safiyya and bestowed her emancipation as her wedding gift.”

Please note that nowhere in the Qur’an we find that Allah has made it legal to use manumission of a slave-woman to be used as her dowry (mahr). Muhammad simply invented this rule according to his convenience.

Ibn Sa’d provides further information on this lustful marriage with a 19-year-old Jewish beauty with 60-year-old Muhammad. Please note that before falling into the hands of Muhammad, a Jewish man had married this pretty girl. Muhammad had already beheaded Safiyaah’s husband and her father after subjecting them to brutal torture. Having satiated his lust for blood, on the same night he killed her closest relatives, Muhammad took Saffiyah into his tent to have sex with her.

We learn from Ibn Sa’d that Muhammad purchased Safiyyah from Dhiyah for seven camels (around US$ 2,100). On the same night that Muhammad took possession of Safiyyah, he hastened to his tent to sleep with her. Here is what Ibn Sa’d writes:

“….when it was night, he entered a tent and she entered with him. Abu Ayyub came there and passed the night by the tent with a sword keeping his head at the tent. When it was morning and the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, perceived (somebody) moving, he asked: Who is there? He replied: I am Abu Ayub. He asked: Why are you here? He replied: O Apostle of Allah! There is a young lass newly wedded (to you) with whose late husband you have done what you have done. I was not sure of safety, so I wanted to be close to you. Thereupon the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, said twice: O Abu Ayyub! May Allah show you mercy.” (ibn Sa’d vol.ii, p.145)

To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad, Muslim biographers often mention that he married Safiyyah before he slept with her. But they forget to state that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period (three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyah.

We shall now see how Muhammad had violated the rule of idda (waiting period) in marrying a woman. These rules are stipulated in the Qur’an thus:

Before marrying another man, divorced women must wait three monthly periods… 2:228

002.228 YUSUFALI: Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Widows wait four months and ten days for re-marriage…2:234

002.234 YUSUFALI: If any of you die and leave widows behind, they shall wait concerning themselves four months and ten days: When they have fulfilled their term, there is no blame on you if they dispose of themselves in a just and reasonable manner. And Allah is well acquainted with what ye do.

Clearly, when Muhammad wanted to sleep or to have sex with Safiyyah, she was a widow, as Muhammad had already killed her husband. Therefore, as per the Qur’an, Muhammad had to wait at least four months and ten days before he could even touch her. But Muhammad did not at all observe this rule; instead, he took Safiyyah, straight from the battlefield to his bed in the war camp. Having spent the night with her, Muhammad took her to another, safer location, stayed there for three days and consummated his marriage with Safiyyah.

Let us read a hadis on this:

Muhammad selected Safiyyah because of her beauty, made her his wife and gave a banquet at the wedding; then he had sex with Saffiyah at Sa`d-AsSahba… (Sahih Bukhari 4.52.143)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 143

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu Talha, “Choose one of your boy servants to serve me in my expedition to Khaibar.” So, Abu Talha took me letting me ride behind him while I was a boy nearing the age of puberty. I used to serve Allah’s Apostle when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly, “O Allah! I seek refuge with You from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men.” Then we reached Khaibar; and when Allah enabled him to conquer the Fort (of Khaibar), the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtab was described to him. Her husband had been killed while she was a bride. So Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself and took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad-AsSahba,’ where her menses were over and he took her for his wife. Haris (a kind of dish) was served on a small leather sheet. Then Allah’s Apostle told me to call those who were around me. So, that was the marriage banquet of Allah’s Apostle and Safiya. Then we left for Medina. I saw Allah’s Apostle folding a cloak round the hump of the camel so as to make a wide space for Safiya (to sit on behind him) He sat beside his camel letting his knees for Safiya to put her feet on so as to mount the camel. Then, we proceeded till we approached Medina; he looked at Uhud (mountain) and said, “This is a mountain which loves us and is loved by us.” Then he looked at Medina and said, “O Allah! I make the area between its (i.e. Medina’s) two mountains a sanctuary as Abraham made Mecca a sanctuary. O Allah! Bless them (i.e. the people of Medina) in their Mudd and Sa (i.e. measures).”

BROTHER SSS IS LIAR THAT HAS BECOME CLEAR HE HAS NEVER READ KORAN OR HADITH. If he had read Hadith and Koran he would not had called ABU BAKR and UMER AS HEROES because after Mohammad’s Death they started torturing Mohammad’s daughter Fatima and cousin and son-in-law Ali and killed many Muslims who were supporters of Ali and Fatima this shows how they were following Mohammad. If you have any answers tell me brother.

I have read so many books and I didn’t find any issues with the life of Mohammed. His life is too good and even as a King, he was too simple living in a very small house. I really loved him. A person who lead that life practically would qualify for Moksha. In the entire history of World, I don’t find a person equal to him. I don’t know whats the problem with you all guys in accepting his preachings…

@Totagoto: He was really a good man. Nobody complained anything as such he was a rapist. None of the hadith had mentioned that. I don’t know why you are saying these things. I think you have only one thing in mind that, if Mohammed would born as Brahmana, then you would have 100 points to counter argue…since he was born on arabic family…you are calling him such things….

Read the hadith fully…i think you would have already done that…analyze keeping things in mind such a way that….how ppl are at that time…and how he preached the truth to that ppl…he changed their lives…

Before prophecy, he was known to be a trustable person and the person who helps the city a lot…

His first declaration of prophecy is on a small mountain…i think u might have read that one also…I really wonder how he was able to do such things in his life….In a lesser span of time, he did a job equal to thrice or more, what one needs to do in his life…

First analyze and then tell…this shows your less knowledge in analytical thinking….Don’t believe in anyone’s saying….you jump into that and swim to learn about swimming…Don’t write books how to swim, without knowing actually….

Muhammad: A Rapist Muhammad allowed his men to rape the women captured in raids. However, after capturing the women, Muslims faced a dilemma. They wanted to have sex with them but also wanted to return them for ransom and therefore did not want to make them pregnant. Some of these women were already married. Their husbands had managed to escape when taken by surprise and were still alive. The raiders considered the possibility of coitus interruptus (withdrawing from intercourse prior to ejaculation). Unsure of the best course of action, they went to Muhammad for counsel. Bukhari reports:

Abu Saeed said: “We went out with Allâh’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allâh’s Apostle who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.” [1]

Notice that Muhammad does not forbid raping women captured in war. Instead, he indicates that when Allâh intends to create anything, nothing can prevent it. In other words, not even the absence of semen can prevent it. So Muhammad is telling his men that coitus interruptus would be futile and ill-advised because it would be an attempt to thwart the irresistible will of Allâh. Muhammad does not say a word against the forced insemination of these captive females. In fact, by criticizing coitus interruptus, in effect he supported forced insemination.

In the Qur’an, Muhammad’s god made it legal to have intercourse with slave women, the so-called “right hand possessions,” even if they were married before their capture.[2]

Juwairiya:

Ibn Aun has narrated: “I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to my letter that the Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Nafi said that Ibn ‘Umar had told him the above narration and that Ibn ‘Umar was in that army.” Bukhari 3.46.717 (see also Muslim 019. 4292)

Muhammad sent one of his companions; Bareeda bin Haseeb, to spy on the Bani al-Mustaliq and after assessing the situation he ordered his men to attack. Muslims came out of Madina on 2nd Shaban of 5 A.H. and encamped at Muraisa, a place at a distance of 9 marches from Medina.

Juwairiya was one of the captives during the raid of Banu Mustaliq. When all the prisoners were made slaves and distributed among the victorious Muslim soldiers, Juwairiyah fell to the lot of Thabit bin Qais. She was the daughter of Haris, the leader of the clan.

The Islamic site muslims.ws writes: “She was the daughter of the leader of the clan, and therefore, very much felt the discomfiture and disgrace of being made slave of an ordinary Muslim soldier. Therefore, she requested him to release her on payment of ransom. Thabit agreed to this, if she could pay him 9 Auqias of gold. Hazrat Juwairiyah had no ready money with her. She tried to raise this amount through contributions, and approached the Holy Prophet also in this connection. She said to him “0’ Prophet of Allah! I am the daughter of Al Haris bin Zarar, the Lord (chief) of his people. You know that it is by chance that our people have fallen captive and I have fallen to the share of Thabit bin Qais and have requested him to release me considering my status, but he has refused. Please do an act of kindness and save me from humiliation”. The Holy Prophet was moved and asked the captive woman if she would like a thing still better. She asked as to what was that thing. He said that he was ready to pay her ransom and marry her if she liked. She agreed to this proposal. So the Holy Prophet paid the amount of ransom and married her.”

First he raids a population without warning because they were easy targets and wealthy. As usual he kills the unarmed able-bodied men, plunders their belongings, then enslaves the rest. The narrator says, “According to the prevailing practice all the prisoners were made slaves and distributed among the victorious Muslim soldiers.” Prevailing practice? Didn’t Muhammad come to show people the right way? Why should he follow the evil prevailing practices of a people whom he called ignorant? By doing so, he set the example and those evil practices became standard practices of the Muslims for ever.

The narrator says that upon seeing Juwairiyah the Prophet was “moved”. Methinks that movement must have happened in his male organ because his heart seems to have remained cold and unmoved. Although Muslims call this marriage, I call it rape.

Safiyah

Safiyah was a beautiful 17 years old Jewish woman who was captured when Muhammad’s troops raided Kheibar. She was the daughter or Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab, the chief of the Banu Nadir, a Jewish tribe of Medina , whom Muhammad had beheaded two years earlier along with the men of Banu Quriaza. The tribe of Banu Nadir had been already banished from Medina and their properties were confiscated.

Safiyah had married to her cousin Kinana, who was a young Jewish leader of Kheibar. When Muhammad raided that fortress, he killed its unarmed men and captured the rest. A Jewish traitor, (reminds me of Noam Chomsky) to gain Muhammad’s favor and be spared from death, told him that Kinana was the treasurer of the town and that he used to hide the money in some ruins. Muhammad ordered Kinana to be tortured to reveal the whereabouts of the treasures and killed him.

Then he asked the prettiest woman from amongst that captives to be brought to him. Ibn Ishaq writes: “The apostle occupied the Jewish forts one after the other, taking prisoners as he went. Among these were Safiya, the wife of Kinana, the Khaibar chief, and two female cousins: [sisters of Kinana] the apostle chose Safiya for himself. The other prisoners were distributed among the Muslims. Bilal brought Safiya to the apostle, and they passed the bodies of several Jews on the way. Safiya’s female companions lamented and strewed dust on their heads. When the apostle of Allâh observed this scene, he said, ‘Remove these she devils from me.’ But he ordered Safiya to remain, and threw his reda [cloak] over her. So the Muslims knew he had reserved her for his own. The apostle reprimanded Bilal, saying, ‘Hast thou lost all feelings of mercy, to make women pass by the corpses of their husbands?’”

Safiyah was taken to Muhammad’s tent. Muhammad wanted to have sex with her on that very night, only hours after torturing to death her husband. She resisted his advances. That night Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of Muhammad. When, in the early dawn, Muhammad saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: “I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, I was really afraid for you on her account”. (Ibn Ishaq, p. 766)

The next day Muhammad covered Safiyah with his mantle, an act signifying that she is now his. Safiyah was groomed and made-up for Muhammad by Umm Sulaim, the mother of Anas ibn Malik and was taken to Muhammad who married her in a mock marriage ceremony and raped her that night. Muslims call this marriage. I call that rape. I am certain not many young women would like to jump into bed with an old man who happens to be the murderer of their father and husband and many other relatives. That poor woman had no choice; therefore that marriage was nothing but a mockery of this sacred institu