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LT had sex with a prostitue that lied about her age. LT did drugs. LT was trying to buy narcotics from a drug dealer and the drug dealer attempted to rob LT at gun point. LT beat the drug dealer, took his gun and took the guys drugs. LT paid escorts to go up to oppossing offensive linemens hotel rooms and have sex with them the night before a game. LT has owned up and admitted all these things. LT did some bad things but nothing real severe.

So let me get this straight. Someone tried to rob LT at gun point and LT managed to beat them up, take the gun from them, and the drugs? Then he hooked his buddies up with escorts before a game? The only thing better than this is if he did it all in the same day.

Lol all jokes aside, Judging people's lives based on past events which happened many years ago is pretty low, and has nothing to do with giants football. i could never judge someone i dont know especially if i have never met them. Thats just not me. But i am curious. what do you guys consider good off of the field? What types of things should a person do off of the field to be considered a good person? Who are some good off of the field players?

Here's a hypothetical question: If the Giants had never made it to the super bowl in 2000 (let's say they lost a game vs philly for example), would all these people be so butthurt about Lewis?

I don't think any Giants fan has a vested interest in the Carolina Panthers and I'm sure we can all agree Ray Carruth is scum. The fact Lewis was on the Ravens in 2000 against the Giants has nothing to do with comparing his on field play and personal life to LT, who is our great LB and social pariah.

To call people "butt hurt" about Lewis because we don't think highly of a man involved in a murder is ignorant.

On the field, Ray Lewis is arguably the greatest LB of this generation. Likewise, LT IS the greatest of his generation, maybe of all time. However, they do play different positions. Lewis is also going for his second Superpbowl, possibly tying LT. On the field, who is/was more important to their team? Is LT's play too much for Lewis to overcome or does Lewis's leadership prove him to be more valuable on a possibly let talented team?

Off the field, Lewis has changed his image into a humble and spiritual leader for his community. However, it is not in the distant past he was up for murder charges, paying off families of victims, and lets not forget (thank you Mrs. Welker) his 5 kids and 4 wives. That is hardly the resume of a role model.

Off the field, LT is linked heavily to drugs, prison, and more recently, sex with a minor and prostitution. While he has not shown to have too many redeeming qualities or even attempted to rehabilitate his image like Lewis has, it is hard to look past the fact that drugs and prostitution is nowhere near as heinous as murder.

So, what is everyone's opinions of Lewis vs. LT on and off the field?

LT was more dominant than Ray Lewis on the field....period end of discussion.
As human beings off the field, neither one is worth a plug nickel....I don't care how many times Lewis invokes the name of the lord.
Apparently, Lewis skipped over the parts of the good book where it talks about vanity being a sin. He's more snake oil salesman than preacher, and his blatant self promotion borders on obscene!
Lewis is more Elmer Gantry than Billy Graham.

What LT did is WAY MORE heinous then a murder allegation. RL was not convicted. If you are convinced he murdered someone then thats your opnion.
Thats not what was decided in court. What he paid off was a civil suit not the criminal suit IIRC.

On the field. LT was better at his position then RL was at his. With that said RL is one of the top LBs to ever play the game for sure.

Sleeping with a hooker is more heinous than being a suspected murderer or an accomplice to murder?

If that hooker is my daughter, yes. I'll have to actually face the reality of how horrible a parent I am.

Can you imagine the reality of the parents of the victims feel? Their children were taking away viciously and the perpetrators are walking around enjoying life because in the courts eyes they defended themselves.