“Man is something that shall be overcome.Man is a rope,tied between beast and overman - a rope over an abyss.What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end.”-- Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
--Nothing scientific can be racist and nothing racist can be scientific.
(c)2000-2017 CM PRESS.ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

Friday, February 27, 2015

COSTA MESA...REMEMBER: YOU CAN ALWAYS DELEGATE YOUR AUTHORITY TO OTHERS (THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE POLICE), BUT YOU CAN NEVER DELEGATE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
Thus, it isyour responsibility to protect yourself and make sure you survive. It's your life, protect it like its the only one you have (because it is) and as though it is your most valuable possession (it is that also).

So, how many more young and naive White kids at the University of Minnesota will become easy victims of violent non-White criminals as they are lulled into a false sense of security and blinded to the reality of anti-White crimes by non-Whites?

The above article is from the UK. But it fudges things as it fails to mention that Whites don't have as much of a problem with lack of sunshine as non-Whites.

And, in the article you'll read that juvenile diabetes has jumped 200% in just five years (I assume they are using numbers from the UK).

Now, why do you think there is such a jump? Has the sun gone down in the UK? Of course not. But, the article is silent about this. Here's a reasonable hypothesis: Because of the massive influx of dark skinned people into the U.K., who are not adapted to the dimmer sunlight, more rain, more cloudy days, more fog, etc. these darker people are the ones who are the ones who are raising the percentages of those with diabetes. Darker skin can't make as much Vitamin D as white skin. Whites evolved white skin to make more Vitamin D. It was natural selection.
# # #WHO IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST?

Thursday, February 26, 2015

COSTA MESA...CM SPOKSEMAN BILL LOBDELL HEADING TO IRVINE COMPANY
There has to be a back story here. Lobdell pulled down around $ 186,000 secure and steady big ones as spokesman for Costa Mesa, and he has to be aware that the Irvine Company seems to have a swinging door for PR types. If any little birds whisper in our ear, and if we can confirm what they whisper, we'll pass it on to you.
# # #REPEAT COLUMN--We ran this column with its important video link late yesterday under THE WORLD, and it is so important that we're running it again here. And, yes, it is relevant to Costa Mesa.The video starts off with some comments by John Cleese, writer, actor & tall person, a very funny member of Monty Python.THE ENDGAME--FULL WHITE GENOCIDE DOCUMENTARY Video (21.17 min.).

Well done, moves fast, not a boring second. Tells the truth that all Whites should see and hear, even if it makes some uncomfortable.

It might even cause some serious cognitive dissonance in some folks who have internalized many years of anti-White propaganda.

As you probably know, cognitive dissonance is that difficulty some people have when their internalized falsehoods are shown to be false and they have trouble accepting the truth. In cartoons, this is often shown as a robot with smoke streaming from it while it says "Does not compute, does not compute," once its view of reality is shown to be false.# # ## # #THE WORLD...NEW YORK: NON-WHITE SOCIAL WORKER ARRESTED FOR HATE CRIME AGAINST A WHITE WOMAN
The non-White puke made anti-White comments and then smashed the 25-year-old White woman's head against a pole.

From the above column: “This book is too dangerous for the general public,” library historian Florian Sepp warned as he carefully laid a first edition of “Mein Kampf” — Adolf Hitler’s autobiographical manifesto of hate — on a table in a restricted reading room." So, a small brain library historian feels the general public shouldn't get to read a book. This is the stuff of the Dark Ages. As free human beings, we should be able to read all books and to ponder all ideas. No books should be off limits and proscribed by a small minority of people who don't like the books and who feel that they have the right to tell other humans what they can and can't read.
# # #LIFE IS SHORT--DON'T WASTE IT AND BECAME A HATE FILLED LONELY OLD MAN OR LONELY OLD WOMAN JUST WAITING TO GO EXTINCT--MULTIPLY YOURSELF: BECOME A TRIBE AND THEN A NATION. DON'T BE A DEAD ENDER.# # #

Well done, moves fast, not a boring second. Tells the truth that all Whites should see and hear, even if it makes some uncomfortable.

It might even cause some serious cognitive dissonance in some folks who have internalized many years of anti-White propaganda.

As you probably know, cognitive dissonance is that difficulty some people have when their internalized falsehoods are shown to be false and they have trouble accepting the truth. In cartoons, this is often shown as a robot with smoke streaming from it while it says "Does not compute, does not compute," once its view of reality is shown to be false.
# # #

Monday, February 23, 2015

The ostensible reason is that the hotel will be used to teach students who take classes at the college relating to the hospitality industry.

Some of us, however, believe there is more to this.

The CM PRESS believes the hotel may be a dorm in waiting for OCC to be turned into a four year university.

At least one reader of the CM PRESS believes the hotel is to attract Chinese students, their families and their money.

What do you think?
# # #THE WORLD...OC REGISTER ARTICLE ON HOW TO PICK THE BEST SCHOOL FOR YOUR KIDS
Not as much BS in the above article as we expected, but also not much advice that intellignet parents don't already know.
The best advice for White parents is to put your kids in schools with the most White kids. This is sort of alluded to in a more general way in the above article where it is written in these fudge words: "Some parents might want a school where their children look like the other students, while other parents might prefer a mix."And, remember, schools are not just about academics. Kids often get set on their life's path by their peers in school and they often meet their future mates and take part in various social events at the schools. Parents should think long term.SLIM WHITMAN SINGING UNA PALOMA BLANCA LIVE# # #

Sunday, February 22, 2015

We're all familiar with
Whites who take the side of non-Whites against Whites, and we're probably all
familiar with the fact that they are usually considered to be righteous and to
have the moral high ground. The reality,
however, is that most of them are suffering from one or more mental disorders.

The Oslo syndrome is the name used by
Jewish writer Kenneth Levin to specifically describe the psychology of Jews
who hate Jews, but the concept applies to all groups as it is a basic human
psychological phenomenon which is related both to the Stockholm syndrome and
the Battered Child syndrome.

Essentially, what happens is that when a specific group of people is
subjected to constant hatred, demonization and abuse, some in the group will
often have their spirits broken and be beaten down like whipped dogs, and
they'll lose self-esteem and group-esteem, and feel worthlessness and be full
of despair.

These despairing individuals, with the Oslo syndrome, won't blame those who
are harming them, but will actually take the side of those harming them
against others in their own group. Levin posits the notion that some
Jews living among Palestinians and identifying with and taking the side of
the Palestinians against their fellow Jews exhibit the Oslo syndrome. Now,
given the poor way Israel treats the Palestinians one can certainly question
Levin's analysis that Jews hating Jews in this regard have the Oslo syndrome.
Instead, the case can be made that such Jews simply understand right from
wrong as these terms are used in a universal sense. Nevertheless, Levin's larger
and perhaps inadvertent point remains by extension that any adult individuals
and groups of adult individuals--and not just Jews and Jewish groups--can
have the same psychological symptoms often seen in children who are abused,
or as Levin calls it, the Oslo syndrome.

Native Americans

We saw a similar phenomenon among American Indians, many of whom came to feel
so worthless that they preferred to commit suicide rather than live as the
worthless individuals they felt they were. In these cases, the psychological
feelings of guilt, self-hate and worthlessness were so great that to relieve
these feelings--this very real, but unseen psychological pain--these
individuals just ended their own lives. Others turned to alcohol. Still
others just suffered silently and simply stopped trying to live full lives.
In most cases Indians blamed themselves and other Indians for their problems.

Suicide to relieve the
psychological pain and feelings of guilt and worthlessness

It is worth emphasizing that at the root of the Oslo syndrome are feelings of
self-hate, worthlessness and guilt and that some individuals will strike out
against their own people to relieve these negative feelings and their
pressure release valve is this ritual suicide or self-abnegation.
Others will take a more direct route and simply end their lives. Those
who relieve their feelings of worthlessness and guilt by striking out at
their own people and by embracing the bias against their people will often
feel "virtuous" in doing so.

It is well said that those who commit
suicide don't want to end their lives, they just want to end their
psychological pain. Suicide is one way. Erasing oneself with drugs or alcohol
is another. Siding with the group that is attacking your group is still
another way. And, there are others. The underlying psychological principle
here is one of trying to release the pent up psychological pressure of these
feelings of despair, self-hate, guilt and worthlessness.

Battered Child syndrome

And, the link to the Battered Child syndrome is clear and throws light on the
adult manifestation of such a syndrome. A child who is battered, either
physically or psychologically will often not see that the problem is not with
himself or herself but with the parent or parent figure who has full control
over the child and who is the abuser. The child internalizes the abuse,
feels guilty, and blames himself or herself and believes that if only he or
she acted better or was a better child, the parent or parent figure would
stop abusing the child. In other words, the child believes he or she is
always at fault and is worthless.White self-haters

Whites who apologize for being White or who forgive non-White attackers often
have the Oslo syndrome.

You've no doubt seen the stories of Whites forgiving Blacks who tried to kill
them because they're White and how these beaten down Whites will often accept
the Black bias against Whites. You've probably also read about White
parents who forgive Blacks who kill the White children of the White parents
and these White parents then say they understand and sometimes even befriend
the killers of their own White children. Such behaviors on the part of Whites
are indicative of the Oslo syndrome.

Today, we see Whites attacked on many different levels in our society.
There is a constant society wide drumbeat demonizing Whites. We
constantly hear, for example, that Whites haven't earned what they have and
that they only got it because of "White privilege," or that except
for White racism and hatred of Blacks, Blacks would be leading better lives.
This is nothing less than psychological abuse of Whites similar to what
we see in cases of Child abuse. Whites are made to feel guilty for
doing nothing more than being who and what they are by birth, yet any expressions
of Whiteness or of their genetic identity or of feeling good about oneself
are quickly denigrated as being signs of racism and White evil.

As with all psychological maladies, there is a continuum of self-hate and
some of the symptoms and expressions of the Oslo syndrome in Whites are more
subtle and may appear to the casual viewer as being virtuous. For
example, when you see Whites who are hypersensitive to perceived insults to
Blacks and who then attack their fellow Whites verbally or physically for
their "racism," you can be pretty sure you are seeing a person with
the Oslo syndrome. The lives of such self-hating Whites are ones of
self-abnegation.

And, we see cases of some Whites not so much fearing that others will call
them racist, but fearing that they may be secretly racist and as such they
have let themselves down and that they must punish themselves. In fact, we
can safely speculate that a lot of White suicides are from this feeling in
some Whites that they have let themselves down or haven't lived up to some
societal, religious or family standards regarding various norms including the
societal demand that one not be a racist. So, instead of being racist,
they obliterate themselves or they live on and hate themselves and relieve
the pressure by transferring the hate to other Whites while proving to
themselves that they are good people for attacking other Whites.

We'll also see Whites trying to erase themselves and their kind by not having
children or by holding down the number of children they have or by
miscegenating and producing non-White children or by adopting non-White
children instead of White children. Hermann Goering's great-niece says she
had her tubes tied so she "would not pass on the blood of a
monster."*

There are many ways this self-hate syndrome
and similar self-hate neuroses can manifest themselves, but the goal for the
individual is to is always to relieve that psychological pain of guilt
for being White and then to make amends for the evil that you think you are
born with because you are White by somehow sacrificing yourself. Of
course you can add in the Great White Mother and Great White Father complexes
that I've written before as part of the subconscious motivations for adopting
non-White children--and, usually, the Blacker the better. These folks
wouldn't want to adopt a Black baby that isn't almost purple Black lest others
not realize that the baby really is Black and that the adoptive White parents
are truly virtuous and righteous individuals.

Staying mentally healthy and
emotionally strong

So, what is a mentally healthy
view of oneself? It is that you should be who you are born to be.
Don't ever apologize for being White. Don't ever support
non-Whites against Whites. Always remember, that you have every right to be
who and what you are. You have every right to identify as White and to feel
good about yourself. No one has a right to abuse you or insult you or
attack you because you are White and if they do, you should not go hide in a
corner but stand up for yourself in whatever way is appropriate, and which
doesn't put you in harm's way. If remaining silent under the circumstances is
the best choice for your survival and safety, then that's what you should do.
But, as you do so, never let the haters of Whites make you feel guilty and
worthless for being White. You are exactly the opposite of that, just
by being born White. You are an important person to yourself, your
family, your ancestors and to all the rest of us Whites who are awake and
aware. You are not alone. You are never alone. You are not the
only one who feels as you do. There are millions of us. Never let the
haters of Whites make you feel isolated and out of sync with what is right
and just. Your survival and the survival of our people--as proud White
people who don't want to be blended away genetically, spiritually or
culturally is never unjust or out of sync. You have a right to be yourself.
You have a right to your genetic identity. This is your planet as
much as it is anyone else's andno one has any more
rights to anything than you do. That dirt under foot? It is
yours. That tree? It is yours. No one got deeds to anything on
this planet from nature, and your rights come from nature and (if you to
choose to so believe) from nature's God.

Develop the mental strength and self-esteem
to withstand those who hate Whites. Stay White. Breed White. Live
White. Never criticize other Whites who are also awake and aware. Never side
with non-Whites against Whites. Do not hate yourself or your fellow
Whites.
#
#

Friday, February 20, 2015

What does the CM PRESS think is really going on? We think OCC is looking down the road to becoming a full four year university and is putting the pieces in place so that can happen.

If so, we think it's a great idea and helps establish Costa Mesa as more of a college town, which isn't a bad thing.

Of course, this is just us thinking out loud and we have no hard facts to give you. We will say, however, that about ten years ago, we suggested to a top administrator at OCC that the school should become a four year university. He just about laughed us off campus and said that wouldn't be possible.

But, what have we now read? Several California junior colleges are now offering some four year degrees.

Maybe we were prescient.

UPDATE: We got a private message about this and the writer disagrees with our crystal ball look and maintains that the moves by OCC are to attract more Chinese students (and their moola) and that's the reason for the hotel. Might be right. My crystal ball told me that the hotel was just a dorm in waiting. We'll have to wait to see.
# # #THE WORLD...

Short book--only 21 pages--but considered a classic. The writing is a little dated and if it were written today the title would most likely be AS A PERSON THINKETH. Just substitute person for man in the book.

Lots of good advice about the power of the mind and thoughts and how each of us controls our destiny, which is something that too many of us forget.
# # #A SOUTH AFRICAN WHITE ETHNOSTATE

A column by Kevin MacDonald.

Diversity and multiculturalism don't work. Some group always gets the short end of the stick. The answer is ethnostates.
# # #SPLC--A DEADLY DOUBLE STANDARD

This may be the way it is in some cases, but in addition to these shy species, nature is a tireless tinkerer with life and is never finished and never will be. Nature is modifying organisms constantly, and when the modifications become great enough we have a new species.

Thursday, February 19, 2015

Yesterday, the appellate court granted the last extension of time for the filing of briefs in the case. All briefs should be in by 3/23/15 regarding the SLAPP motion and we should see the court ruling not long after that.
# # #AGENDA FOR 2/23/15 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HERE
# # #THE WORLD...

One of the differences in this program and older ones is that this one also teaches non-lethal fight moves whereas the older ones just taught lethal moves.
# # #ARTICLE ABOUT SUN CAUSING 'DAMAGE' TO DNA EVEN AFTER DARKPop-science article that fails to go deep enough, so I'll go deeper. Firstly, just to clarify an unstated fact as background: "damage" to DNA, which really should be called "changes" to DNA from the sun or cosmic rays or nuclear radiation or other sources are not qualitatively different based on the source of the changes. All of the aforementioned things, and many unmentioned, have the ability to change the DNA code, but the changes are the same. It's like pounding in a nail with a hammer or a rock or the side of the wrench. The source of the pounding makes little difference.

Wednesday, February 18, 2015

COSTA MESA...
At last night's city council meeting, Mayor Pro Tem Righeimer correctly told local haters that it's none of their business where he goes on his vacations with his family.# # #THE WORLD...BIRDMAN TO GET OSCARS?
If you saw the film and weren't impressed, you are probably not a culture vulture (and, in my book, not being a culture vulture is a good thing), and you probably didn't get all the inside stuff that was going on in the film that may cause culture vultures to give it a bunch of Oscars.

To understand the film you have to realize that there is a rivalry between New York theater and New York actors on one side and Hollywood films and Hollywood actors on the other side.

To culture vultures, New York actors are often considered artists, and New York theater is often considered true art, while Hollywood actors are often considered to not be artists and Hollywood films are often considered to not be true art. (Yes, there are many exceptions and there is a great deal of bicoastalism going on these days.)

In Birdman, Michael Keaton plays a Hollywood actor who got rich and famous playing superhero Birdman in the movies. That Birdman is a barely disguised Batman should be obvious to even the most casual movie watcher. In fact, in one scene, Keaton's character mentions the last time he had a hit was when he played "Birdman in 1992." Yup, you guessed it. Keaton's last stint as Batman was also in 1992.

At any rate, Keaton's character is now washed up and to try to get back in the game, he writes, directs and acts in a play on Broadway (in the real world, doing all three is often a recipe for disaster).{SNIP} To know more, you'll have to see the movie. It's out on DVD now. I will say that a lot of what you see in the film is what many of us who have acted both in New York and in Hollywood films have experienced to one degree or another.And speaking of acting in New York, here's a SONG about some of the people I did plays with in New York. Three of the people named in this song were in Glamour, Glory and Gold along with Robert DeNiro and me. When I did this play, I hadn't been out of the Marines very long, and some have suggested that DeNiro used some of my characteristics for his ex-Marine character, Travis Bickle, in Taxi Driver.The Jackie mentioned in the song was Jackie Curtis who sometimes dressed and looked like a woman and sometimes dressed and looked a little like James Dean, and you'll hear a line in the song about that. Jackie wrote the play, and acted in it, but did not direct it.# # #RESEARCHER SAYS THE HIGGS' MASS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND THERE MUST BE SOMTHING ELSE

We saw a nice metaphor for smashing subatomic particles together: It's like two trash trucks crashing head on into each other at high speed. When that happens, all sorts of things fly out of the trucks.
# # #EPIGENOME--GENETIC SWITCHES
There is more to the DNA code than meets the eye.
# # #

They believe they are doing God's will and that if it is His will that they succeed they will, and if it is His will that they don't succeed they won't, but in either case they believe they must do His will and play their part.

This type of thinking is alien to many of us who believe that we, as humans, should try to live as long as possible, and to do this we shouldn't throw caution to the wind. Those in the Islamic State, however, apparently look at humans, including themselves, as chess pieces being moved about by God in ways that the humans may not understand. And, even if they are destined to be pawns who are destroyed, they believe that this is part of God's plan for some greater purpose.

Thus, if the Islamic State succeeds, that's okay with the believers, and if it doesn't succeed, that's also okay with the believers. They simply must do the best they can to succeed because this is what God wants them to do.
# # #

Sunday, February 15, 2015

Saturday, February 14, 2015

COSTA MESA...Where can we put some more open and wild space in Costa Mesa? Perhaps we should form a committee to decide which sports fields we should remove and let nature take over.
Clearly, we don't have enough open and wild space and without it, our kids (who are our future) have no place to experience nature qua nature. With sports fields, our kids get highly structured and regimented games played on carefully manicured fields that might as well be made of plastic and be under glass domes.With open and wild space, the kids get to experience nature and start to get an understanding of the nature of life and existence. Some might even become naturalists in the mold of Charles Darwin and begin to understand that to answer some of the big questions of existence we simply need to observe nature, and ask questions as to why this or that insect or plant or other organism is the way it is. Why does this plant have thorns and this one doesn't? Why is this flower yellow and this one red? Why does this tree have this kind of bark? What benefit is it to the tree? Why does this bird have this kind of beak while this other closely related bird has a different kind of beak?To understand differences is to understand nature.

As we've written before, the mods over there are doing a pretty good job of keeping the haters out, so if you want to read what the haters have to say, go to the local bus station and read their nonsense on the restroom walls or read their hate filled comments in the Daily Pilot or on that disgusting lonely old man's blog where most of the haters are allowed to spew their hate with anonymous names like the cowards they are.
# # #AND WHAT ABOUT SPORTS FIELDS?

Assuming that Costa Mesa needs more sports fields, or perhaps just sports field time for games, Some of the options posited by others or off the top of our head include:

Thursday, February 12, 2015

There is an item on the agenda for the use of CDBG funds to pay for the work already done to repave an alley HERE.

If the CM PRESS had our druthers we'd be using CDBG funds and other available money for the purchase of slum buildings. Paperwork wise, this is more difficult than repairing an alley, but where there's a will, there's a way.

The main requirement of using CDBG funds is that they be used in low income areas. The way the City chooses to use those funds to improve such areas is fairly open ended. So, why doesn't the City start removing slum buildings and putting in needed parking lots and pocket parks at least temporarily until enough parcels can be assembled to put in needed sports fields?

I repeat: Where there's a will, there's a way.

We just need councilmembers to see the major benefits we'll get if we thin out and remove slum buildings and put in the much needed parking and pocket parks and eventually sports fields.

Put the money into fixing alleys that aren't that bad or removing slums. Which is more important?
# # #Mayor Mensinger's column submitted to the Daily Pilot

The
community can find consensus

By
Steve Mensinger

Since
June 2013, the nine-member Fairview Park Citizens Advisory Committee has met
monthly to diligently study and make recommendations on a variety of issues
related to the future of our city’s natural crown jewel, Fairview Park and
Wetlands.

The
committee—helped by significant input from residents and expertise provided by
city staff—has found remarkable consensus on most issues involving the 206-acre
park. I am extremely proud of the group. As the City Council liaison
during most of the committee’s work, this has been a wonderful cooperative
process to witness. The notable exception to the harmony among the committee
members has been whether more active uses—archery, community gardens, sports
fields, skate parks, even an amphitheater—should be allowed in the southeast
section of the park (part of the acreage where model trains run on five miles
of track). Rumors have even spread about a proposed Casino, which is clearly
ridiculous.

Last
month, the committee voted 5-4 to ask city staff to study possibility of
combining sports fields with the train to that section of the park. This has
been a classic community debate: in a city that’s short on playing fields
(especially lighted ones), should a portion of Fairview Park’s open
space—already in use as a miniature train depot—be combined with a more active
use or just be left alone? And do Fairview Park’s sensitive environmental and
archeological areas propose serious challenges to any kind of new activity
there.

At
the Fairview Park meetings, the debate over this issue has been vigorous, with
the advocates for leaving the park alone outnumbering proponents of sports
fields. Anyone who knows me will attest to the fact that there’s no stronger
advocate for solving our field space issues than me. Our children deserve them,
and our city will attract and maintain more families with better open space
sports facilities. But I’m concerned at the divisiveness this issue is creating
at Fairview Parks Citizens Advisory Committee meetings and spreading in the
community. As I see it, both sides have persuasive arguments. And I think this
issue is important enough that we should know exactly how all Costa Mesa
residents feel about it. We could put the matter on the ballot, but that would
be costly, messy and divisive.

Our
community can find consensus, and I’m proposing this: Let’s call a brief time
out and conduct a community consensus survey to determine if Costa Mesa
residents want sports fields on the southeast quadrant of Fairview Park. The
survey would be relatively inexpensive, but provide everyone with the first
unambiguous picture of what residents really want in that section of Fairview
Park. If the overwhelming majority say don’t touch Fairview Park (which, by the
way, I believe is a strong possibility), then the Fairview Park Citizens
Advisory Committee will have clear direction and be able to wrap up its work.
On the other hand, if the survey shows Costa Mesans are undecided or definitely
would like sports fields at Fairview Park, then the committee (and eventually
the Parks and Recreation Commission and City Council) could determine the
feasibility of sports fields there.

I
will propose the idea of a Fairview Park community consensus survey at the
March 3 City Council meeting. I believe a well-done statistically valid survey
of Costa Mesans on this issue would provide an equal playing field for all
involved.

Steve
Mensinger is the mayor of Costa Mesa.

# # #YOU CAN FIND MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT OVER AT COSTA MESA PUBLIC SQUAREhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1531446430404825/SO FAR, THE MODS, TO THEIR CREDIT, AT COSTA MESA PUBLIC SQUARE, HAVE KEPT MOST OF THE HATERS OUT OF THE COMMENTS, SO IF YOU WANT TO READ WHAT THE HATERS HAVE TO SAY YOU'LL HAVE TO VISIT THE RESTROOMS AT THE BUS STATION AND READ THE WALLS OR GO TO THE DAILY PILOT OR A DISGUSTING HATE FILLED BLOG WRITTEN BY AN EQUALLY DISGUSTING DEAD ENDER LONELY OLD MAN WHO HAS NO STAKE IN COSTA MESA'S OR THE UNIVERSE'S FUTURE.# # #