yeah bro, i love the igf, i get sooo lean and vascular, last time i did it i injected my bis, chest and calves, they all grew. My calves grew an entire inch, my arms grew a 1/2 inch and my chest grew a lil over a 1/2 inch. This and toremifine are musts for my post cycle therapy. It also helps greatly with healing. I had hurt my left pec right before i started the igf and it healed very quickly.

How do you prep inject for IGF ...i put 50 mcg IGF-LR3 (diluted in AA) then i fill the rest of syringe with BA NaCl. Am i losing any IGF into the BA NaCl vial when i add the solution to my syringe?

im not exactly sure what you are asking here (either that or im to lazy to reread it) so ill just tell you this, you will want to dilute all of your igf with your AA. if you have 1000 mcgs about 2 ml of AA is what i do. put them together in a vial.. if your igf vial is big enough for 2ml of AA then use that (squirt the AA down the side of the bottle, not directly into it.) again idk if you already did this or not.. anywho... when your ready to inject take the syringe you just sucked up wit your reconstitued igf and put it in the BA water, dont fill the whole rest of the syring up with BA thats just madness.. i only go about 10 or 15 notches (lines, IU's, whatever) oo and no dont worry, no igf will ge tlost in your BA Water vile.. i think thats what you asked

yeah bro, i love the igf, i get sooo lean and vascular, last time i did it i injected my bis, chest and calves, they all grew. My calves grew an entire inch, my arms grew a 1/2 inch and my chest grew a lil over a 1/2 inch. This and toremifine are musts for my post cycle therapy. It also helps greatly with healing. I had hurt my left pec right before i started the igf and it healed very quickly.

How did you dose your IGF?

I am also wondering the same thing Piston, I was about to start a thread but did a search 1st and found this....imagine that.

After I draw the IGF, i suck back a little air so there's no IGF in the syringe. That way the chances of it leaking into your BW are 0. Either way it should be fine if you draw it out upside down like normal...

no, right now im doing a three day split so that i can inject chest, bis and calves. Im injecting 6 days a week basically. I inject the muscle group that i worked that day. I drive home, inject, have a protein shake, smoke, eat a lot...in that order

no, right now im doing a three day split so that i can inject chest, bis and calves. Im injecting 6 days a week basically. I inject the muscle group that i worked that day. I drive home, inject, have a protein shake, smoke, eat a lot...in that order

Gotcha......DO you inject first thing in the morning on days you dont trian? I was also looking at a 6/1 schedule.

I dont smoke, but if you got the results from doing things in that order......Sh*t pass it my way.

I have used it once during PCT. Did not really notice much as i already have pretty low bf. Helps with appetite which i did notice during my run with it. Could tell it was legit cus i used slin with it one time and as normal procedure i lowered the amount of slin i would normally used and i still went hypo. Anyways i have not given up. In the future i plan on running it during a cycle in hopes for a synergistic effect. To all of those who did get good results were you using media grade or receptor grade????

I have used it once during post cycle therapy. Did not really notice much as i already have pretty low bf. Helps with appetite which i did notice during my run with it. Could tell it was legit cus i used slin with it one time and as normal procedure i lowered the amount of slin i would normally used and i still went hypo. Anyways i have not given up. In the future i plan on running it during a cycle in hopes for a synergistic effect. To all of those who did get good results were you using media grade or receptor grade????

I am around 6-9%bf when im bulking man. The last time i used igf, i was bulking, but it was really clean, and i went down to 3.1%. I wasnt getting ready for anything and i wasnt trying to cut. And yes it helps protein synthesis so it helps you keep gains during postcycle.

Gotcha......DO you inject first thing in the morning on days you dont trian? I was also looking at a 6/1 schedule.

I dont smoke, but if you got the results from doing things in that order......Sh*t pass it my way.

I dont inject on days that i dont train. My schedule right now is
Day1:chest, shoulder, tris
Day2:biceps, back, abs
Day3:calves, quads, hams
Then u just start it over, take a rest day whenever u feel the need. Just try and not take too many, lol. I usually do like 1 a week or so, lately i havent felt like taking any though. I am doing it this way so that I can inject chest, biceps and calves. So you might want to try something different if you want to inject other areas. Also weed is sort of a natural grubon, lol, and when u combine it with grubon you eat like a lion. Just try and keep it clean.

I really think it is worth it for one main reason. When I am on it I honestly don't notice much and I really dont buy into the localized growth aspect either BUT my max weight was always 215 and it was VERY hard for me to hold 215 for mor ehtan a few days and would always settle down to 210-212. Since running IGF a couple time my max wieght I can hold is 224 so I really believe it does add new cells and over time you will see the benefits down the road.

I say worth it. It's always under a bill for a mg.
Anywho I need some M1T this december..... Somebody needs to start carrying this sh1t. Ahhh. M1T + IGF1. I'll probably be so miserable on cycle that I'll wanna die. M1T...IGF1... and some Epistane with IGF1 and test prop.

does this stuff have the same effects as what the life sciences researchers use? i am talking about what the mr's and ag's type outfits sells over the internet (or the joe blow hush mail sellers that claim 97% pure product)?if not then how can these so call peptides work as good as users report? and can you always trust the quality of some chinese powders now a days? i have read from a few bb sites,word searched, i even brought some gh frag and used it for about 8 wks myself with no noticable results. how can anybody prove that this stuff works?

does this stuff have the same effects as what the life sciences researchers use? i am talking about what the mr's and ag's type outfits sells over the internet (or the joe blow hush mail sellers that claim 97% pure product)?if not then how can these so call peptides work as good as users report? and can you always trust the quality of some chinese powders now a days? i have read from a few bb sites,word searched, i even brought some gh frag and used it for about 8 wks myself with no noticable results. how can anybody prove that this stuff works?

You gotta go on reputation. I can tell you this, Carlito's receptor grade is top notch and you WILL get results. I've used various IGF from around the block and you have to get teh best stuff. Also, I strongly believe you have to go with 80-100mcg per day and then it starts kicking.

You gotta go on reputation. I can tell you this, Carlito's receptor grade is top notch and you WILL get results. I've used various IGF from around the block and you have to get teh best stuff. Also, I strongly believe you have to go with 80-100mcg per day and then it starts kicking.

what exactly do you experience with that higher level of administration? If 50mcg E3D or even ED isn't effective enough why do many people get results from it? Are you speaking in terms of fat loss or in terms of muscular hypertrophy?

what exactly do you experience with that higher level of administration? If 50mcg E3D or even ED isn't effective enough why do many people get results from it? Are you speaking in terms of fat loss or in terms of muscular hypertrophy?

First and foremost, the source is primary. 50mcg should be enough for results IF the product is good/legit. For noticeable gains in LBM, I frankly don't notice too much until I push that 60mcg limit. For me, and many others, 80 seems to be the sweet spot. Granted much of the benefit LBM-wise isn't seen until 2-3 months down the road when those new cells have matured, but I see a noticeable difference in immediate growth from a slightly higher dose.

First and foremost, the source is primary. 50mcg should be enough for results IF the product is good/legit. For noticeable gains in LBM, I frankly don't notice too much until I push that 60mcg limit. For me, and many others, 80 seems to be the sweet spot. Granted much of the benefit LBM-wise isn't seen until 2-3 months down the road when those new cells have matured, but I see a noticeable difference in immediate growth from a slightly higher dose.

this is just a little sometime that i copied from meso rx this is from an previous article quote: "It is also not as expensive since a media grade version is available which is sufficient for bodybuilding use. There is also a receptor grade available but it is VERY expensive and the only noticeable difference between the two would only be able to be noticed in a laboratory setting. The price on the black market for Long R3 IGF-1 can be seen anywhere from $300-$500 per milligram depending on the source, be wary of black market dealers of any IGF since it is a VERY difficult item to obtain. As mentioned IGF is a research product and is only available from a few laboratories in the world and is only available to research companies and biotechnology institutions. For the rest of this article when I say IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake." dude i want to BELIEVE in the good science behind this stuff i want to believe in all of the google searches, bb'ng forums and advanced discussions on other popular bb'ng sites. i have even viewed overseas sources i have been very interested in this peptide since 2003
this stuff is more for the I-lite(elite) megabucks baller athletes then for the body building enthusis like most of us, all i can say is that i am hopeful but skeptical that oneday beyond any doubt in my mind That LR3 IGF-1 WILL TAKE ME THERE i guess i need more convincing thats all.

this is just a little sometime that i copied from meso rx this is from an previous article quote: "It is also not as expensive since a media grade version is available which is sufficient for bodybuilding use. There is also a receptor grade available but it is VERY expensive and the only noticeable difference between the two would only be able to be noticed in a laboratory setting. The price on the black market for Long R3 IGF-1 can be seen anywhere from $300-$500 per milligram depending on the source, be wary of black market dealers of any IGF since it is a VERY difficult item to obtain. As mentioned IGF is a research product and is only available from a few laboratories in the world and is only available to research companies and biotechnology institutions. For the rest of this article when I say IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake." dude i want to BELIEVE in the good science behind this stuff i want to believe in all of the google searches, bb'ng forums and advanced discussions on other popular bb'ng sites. i have even viewed overseas sources i have been very interested in this peptide since 2003
this stuff is more for the I-lite(elite) megabucks baller athletes then for the body building enthusis like most of us, all i can say is that i am hopeful but skeptical that oneday beyond any doubt in my mind That LR3 IGF-1 WILL TAKE ME THERE i guess i need more convincing thats all.

if u get legit IGF, it works, period. AND YOU KNOW IT. if your IGF is legit, you're extremely hungry and can/may go hypo. the other stuff... whether it be low quality or bunk altogether, you don't get those sides with.

if u get legit IGF, it works, period. AND YOU KNOW IT. if your IGF is legit, you're extremely hungry and can/may go hypo. the other stuff... whether it be low quality or bunk altogether, you don't get those sides with.

Chech your pm's, I really have had none of those side effects on IGF and I was kind of expecting more, I am begining to believe that maybe it is a poor quality.

Igf-1 is going to work best when stacked with anabolics the obvious choice is test, i've only used Oratropin which i LOVED and will most definitely use again, but i also want to try the injectable and do 40mcg eod for 20 weeks. Good info on igf-1 over at professionalmuscle, eod seems to be the way to go you use less and it stays effective, guys have run it as long as 20 weeks with consistant gains.

id just like to bump this up again. Thing is i just bought some receptor grade from a reputable source and i was wondering if the receptor grade has a noticable difference from media grade as far as the user can tell. Ill be able to answer this poll in a month or so

id just like to bump this up again. Thing is i just bought some receptor grade from a reputable source and i was wondering if the receptor grade has a noticable difference from media grade as far as the user can tell. Ill be able to answer this poll in a month or so