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Did anyone else get a strong "Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor" vibe from the scene between Starbuck and her father during Starbuck's "everything was so clear" speech? (About 33 minutes in.)

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^ I'm beginning to think we're gonna see Galactica's death before the final episode. I also think the ship itself might prove to be the 'dying leader' which takes them to the promised land, perhaps in one last jump.

I'm fairly convinced that the dying leader is Adama. Yes, I think the Galactica will be destroyed. And, can you picture him not going down with the ship? I can't.

Mr Awe

Sure, he'd go down with the ship. But they've set up a kind of scifi possibility with the ship going to pieces during a jump ... for all we know, that could be a time thing that scatters folks to far reaches and starts the whole thing over again.

That would be pretty undramatic, compared to the alternatives, to have the ship just disintegrate during a jump! And, I don't see BSG doing the time technobabble thing to explain the cycle.

Nah, the Galactica will go out in a big battle against Cavil's forces (no spoilers, just me guessing). In that scenario, Adama will be aboard.

Here's a question: In season 3 it's said that Hera can recognize Athena from Boomer, yet when Boomer picked her up from day-care, why did Hera go along peacefully? Did she want to go with her to Cavil?

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Here's a question: in season 3 it's said that Hera can recognize Athena from Boomer, yet when Boomer picked her up from day-care, why did hera go along peacefully? did she want to go with her to cavil?

Hi Everyone! My first post is to ask about one thing in this episode... I need to know which one is the name of the song that played Kara in piano (the one that activated the last five...) Thanks! (Is anyway to download it?)

I'm fairly convinced that the dying leader is Adama. Yes, I think the Galactica will be destroyed. And, can you picture him not going down with the ship? I can't.

Mr Awe

Sure, he'd go down with the ship. But they've set up a kind of scifi possibility with the ship going to pieces during a jump ... for all we know, that could be a time thing that scatters folks to far reaches and starts the whole thing over again.

That would be pretty undramatic, compared to the alternatives, to have the ship just disintegrate during a jump! And, I don't see BSG doing the time technobabble thing to explain the cycle.

Nah, the Galactica will go out in a big battle against Cavil's forces (no spoilers, just me guessing). In that scenario, Adama will be aboard.

Mr Awe

Actually, I hope you're right. Just for the last 3 days I've had a 102 degree fever, and so my 'visions' such as they are have been about BSG. That sort of fell into my head.

They think Daniel was her because a) Starbuck is obviously something weird, and her being a human/Cylon hybrid would go a long way to explaining what is up with her, b) Ellen said Daniel was an artist. That's all we're really got to go on. I'm still sustaining reservations.

why the frak does everyone think Kara's dad is 'Daniel'?
there's no evidence to support this . . .

There is plenty of evidence to support this, this episode went 80% of the way towards confirming it.

Daniel was an artist, Dreilide was an artist. Anders wrote Watchtower while on Earth, Dreilide (one of Ander's "children") knows Watchtower and taught it to Kara as a child. Hera knows the notes of Watchtower, that suggests a connection between her and Kara; they're both hybrids. Kara was reborn somehow, possibly using some sort of Cylon resurrection technology. Leoben knows that Kara is special and has a destiny, perhaps a subconscious understanding of Kara's relation to the rest of the Cylons.

Finally, if Dreilide is Daniel then a quiet character moment from the beginning of season 2 will actually have been one of the most important scenes of the whole show. It would tie things together brilliantly, so maybe there is some wishful thinking going on.

Love the Watchtower reveal scene. It's a really dramatic moment, the way the loud notes pop in at just the right time and you see the Cylons recognize it. Tigh's reaction is just fantastic.

I suspected that Slick might be her father somehow (though him being a 'HeadFather' for some reason didn't occur to me), but I also thought that maybe it was just a dramatic parallel, she's meeting someone just like her father who will make her come to terms with her actual dad, as that's the sort of thing the writers like to do.

Finally, if Dreilide is Daniel then a quiet character moment from the beginning of season 2 will actually have been one of the most important scenes of the whole show.

WHAT quiet character moment?

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