"China Will Not Hesitate To Protect Iran Even With A Third World War"

Fast forward to 2:08: "It is puzzling to some that Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War... Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs...." And don't forget Russia, which recently said it is preparing to retaliate against NATO and has put radar stations on combat alert: "Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China. Toward Iran." Watch, and please forward the entire video, for an explanation of how China is approaching the situation not only in Iran, but a perspective of how they view the western "threat", as well as what tensions they face domestically.

By definition India, at over 1 billon, counter balances China over long term. But India is not a belligerent country by culture. Its a mosaic and has many cultural fault lines since centuries that acts as an internal break. They can't fight like a hegemonic continent.

Correct, India is not a nation-state: it is a collection of small nation states in terms of cultural differences, population, economic differences, etc., much like Europe, except nominally united as a whole.

It is actually quite similar to China in this regard, except China possesses a culture which causes unity naturally. Indian unity is a result of British naval adventures.

I find Indians quite interesting. Bharat-rakshak.com is an excellent website, and its forum allows me to see deep into the minds of intelligent Indians; they all speak English, because, again, of British naval adventures (linguistic unity is almost a prerequisite for cultural unity).

In any case, India cannot resist China. Geographically, culturally, economically, politically, logistically . . . the Chinese have every advantage. The Indians have cultivated a culture of acceptance: acceptance of servitude. It is absolutely hilarious that Ghandi is their star: a pacifist upheld as holy?! ROFLMAO.

Historically, the Indian subcontinent has looked to the northwest for threats. To the northeast, the intimidating Himalays impose their will upon all but the most capable of adventurers; it is folly, if not impossible, to march men through such territory. In all other directions lay ocean; thus, India's attention has been focused on Pakistan on far too long. Only recently has the GoI realized that the real threat is China. Only recently, as the relationship between Pakistan and the USA has withered: in other words, far too late.

What allies does India have? No power in Asia can stand China's might. Even United, the Asian powers are crippled by millennia of subservience to the Central Empire.

Literally East VS the West....except those sorry fuckers in Japan will be stuck in the middle...assuming they don't mutate into something different due to excess radioactive nuclides floating about...in fact...they may be fine afterall once they build their immune systems up...

India is much closer to USA than Iran. But it gets lots of its energy supplies from Iran. The last thing that India wants or needs is a war. Not one in a billion chance that India will back Iran versus USA in a war. Besides, India has strong ties with Israel - no chance India fights Israel.

This USA, Israel versus Iran conflict is a losing proposition for India. Also, for the world.

I look at it in this way. If China fires a single shot at us it provides us with the excuse to default on our debt obligation to China while saving face. It will also anger Americans into not purchasing Chinese made products. Do you remember when Obama was intimidated into removing the Buy American provision from I believe it was his first stimulus bill?

It would hurt America much worse than China. Without China, Walmart and all those who rely on Walmart to survive are dead. What are you going to do? Reopen all those factories that have been closed for +20 years and expect to hire a bunch of former retail employees to manufacture things? LOL... It doesn't work like that. Not without years of depression and restructuring.

I think the main difference is in China, the people would probably tear the place apart and would mostly go back to their life in the peasantry/on the farm. Most Chinese are no more than a generation (and many less) removed from the rice paddies. In the USA, a mass downgrade of lifestyle would decimate the country, cities, as the mirage would be shattered beyond repair. Americans, like all westerners, are much more dependent on "the system" to keep them alive.

It's bad news when ALL the major powers are rattling their sabres and declaring their willingness to fight, and nobody's acting as the mediator and trying to get everybody to calm down. When everybody's ready to fight, war's going to follow, and when it does it's going to be bad for everybody. The soundbites and media headlines sound a lot like the posturing of all the players prior to the first world war - not good.

All major powers are on the collision course with each other as resource constraints are meeting constantly growing population. There is no possible way to mediate this situation and if there ever was one, it was squandered.

Unluckiest of all are males within 16-25 age bracket who will be forced to become a hero generation to fight in countless battles of what's to come.

after tripoli fell, and B4 the moQ got off'd, china~~who had been friendly and involved in libya pre-NATO~~china looks at libya and addresses the western military alliance: you blew this whole place up, therefore you are legally required to restore it

they were ignored. totally

just a few days ago, whoever is in charge of the libyan celebrations and festivities this week recognized the chinese commercial projects and interests, made them a buncha promises, and told them to take 2 aspirin and go to be bed and call again tomorrow if they didn't feel better

to me, china has not been pleased, at all, now going forward with the "international handling" of events in syria and the recent jawboning, posturing and big fuking explosions in iran, they are saying: that's enough!

this isn't very nice talk while we're planning and enjoying the holidays, but i'm sure that horold camping will find it useful

and, there are no mayan 2012 calendars anywhere to be found! sold out, everywhere

Couple of things here Slewie....China sold $200 million worth of weapons to Ghadaffi via Algeria during the uprising. Well documented after the fall of Tripoli and China was cought red-handed with the i's dotted and the t's crossed. China is now person non grata in Libya and the love isn't being felt in Egypt or Tunisia.

I think this whole revolution shit scares the hell out of the Chinese -Syria or Iran have a revolution why not China.

I don't see China going to war over Iran....China has a history of killing themselves...not fighting wars to protect others...nothing is more important to China then China...as it should be. Russia on the other hand.....

Aside of launching a couple of nukes - and they won't do this to defend Iran, explain to me how Chia will project power outside of their borders in a contested ocean. They can't do anything unless they march to Iran to defend it. They don't have the navy.

Nope, IMO this current financial crisis helps the Chinese cause long term. Only mad dogs and englishmen go out in the mid-day sun of nuclear fall out. I hope the mad dogs of pax americana are on a strong leash. China's demographics will help stabilise its consumption imprint on world. 1 billion is more than enough. Its even more than more.

An unconventional project by US university students has concluded that China's nuclear arsenal could be many times larger than current estimates, drawing the attention of Pentagon analysts.

Karber said that -- based on the study of the tunnels -- China could have up to 3,000 nuclear warheads, far higher than the current estimates, which range from 80 to 400, according to the Post.

And if any of you think that China fears nuclear war, forget about it. Mao during the Korean war :``The atomic bomb is nothing to be afraid of. China has millions of people. It cannot be bombed out of existence. If someone else can drop an atomic bomb, I can too. The death of 10 or 20 million people is nothing to be afraid of...``

That was him responding to the Indian ambassador after he asked him if he feared that Chinese involvement in the Korean war could lead to nuclear war against the US.

who cares about 400 or 3000 nukes, when 5 are enough to produce five Fukushimas in the US.
Even more crazy the idea of placing 5 nukes at the coast of the spanish canary islands which will produce enough energy for this one fragile mountain to slide off into the atlantic, creating a tsunami which would wipe out the US east coast.
Use men made energy to release mother earths energies.
I hope TPTB are not that stupid, because even they do not favor a life below ground for the next 30'000 years.

Not this canary islands BS again.... sorry but it won't happen. The geologist claiming that is a nut.

And about Fukushimas, you are right... as long as those nukes hit nuclear power plants... just a nuke hitting a city will not create a ``fukushima``... A nuclear power plants has TONS of radioactive material... a nuke a few hundreds lbs... which most of it gets transformed into heat.

Any modern missile can take out a nuclear power plant, probably multiple rounds of RPGs could as well, since they are built to withstand inside and NOT outside pressure.
Since in todays world, due to a lack of storage space, the plants are storing their used fuel rods in these power plants the damage would be detrimental for thousands of years as in Tschernobyl and Fuku, with worldwide implications.

Suppose the missles and RPGs cripple the plant's water supplies or personnel? Face it. Nuclear power plants are nothing more than gigantic dirty bombs and a clear and present danger wherever they are. How many FUKUshimas end it all?

Batcrap! Those tunnels are only 20 or so feet below street level. I toured them in 2003-4? . Our bunker buster bombs would blow them apart in one big raid. Interesting tour--were set up withe beauty saloons etc. Just a few hundred feet shallow. This was in Beijing. Milestones

Maurice Strong is in China at the helm of the long term scheme. So are the rest of the cockroachefellers.

The rothchilds created isreal for the sole purpose of sacrificing and to be the match that strikes it all off into a population control flame eliminating so many millions of useless eater and breathers with all the weapons they have been stacking up and getting ready to use.

Russia: Who will they sell their oil and natgas to when they've been embargoed as a act of war? And without oil revenue they are not even as economically viable as Brazil. The Tsar would be back in power within a year if they don't bring the tanks down on their universities.

China: Who will they sell their lead-tainted toys to? Without record-breaking exports every quarter to keep their serfs busy internal unrest will explode. They'll have so much rioting at home it will be shocking if they don't go WMD against their own people.

No doubt. And if they can create the mirage of an external enemy for internal consumption then maybe they can divert some attention away from that recent string of embarrassing shit-for-brains engineering catastrophes and their looming housing market melt-down.

What pulled the US out of depression? War. If China can't build shit for us to buy (because we are too "in debt" to buy it already) then lots of jobs building and running a war machine might be just the ticket. Team up with Russia and Iran to leave us out of the oil loop. Not a crazy strategy when you consider their willingness to build ghost cities.

Which oil net exporter isn't under Western control? Russia, Venezuela...See, you can't move a tank or fly a fighter jet on solar. You think the US is such an important market for China? You're living in 2007 man.

Yeah all of western Europe will all of a sudden want to live in the cold and dark, just to embargo Russia... Don't forget that Europe itself is almost falling apart, Russia has some pretty damn close ties with many European countries, and Germany is getting royally fed up with the bullshit economical policies pushed by many powers that be. You might be surprised who's side Europe might end up on...

"On Thursday, the U.S. military successfully tested a new hypersonic missile. The missile flies at eight times the speed of sound with a range measured in the thousands of miles. That allows the missile to hit a target anywhere on earth in less than an hour. Guy Raz talks with Noah Shachtman of Wired.com about how the Army's Advanced Hypersonic Missile works."

I wonder about the wisdom of the human species, when such things can exist. The recent article about researchers making the H5N1 virus more deadly by developing airborne transmission is similarly scary. It's one step away from millions, if not billions, of people dying. Why do we do this to ourselves? Are humans inherently self-destructive?

Humans are born ignorant, fearful,and greedy. Only a small slice realize intelligence. Hint: None that have realized intelligence are in ANY position of power....that,in itself, would negate the realization of intelligence.

"The recent article about researchers making the H5N1 virus more deadly by developing airborne transmission is similarly scary." But if we didn't have shit like that to play with we would be board out of our minds.

Like a lot of people here I see no reason to fight a war for the jews. I hope nobody saves the day and we just learn to live with it. We dont need any fucking saviors. Those saviors are the ones who cause so much trouble usually.

yes! the worlds largest oil rig is positioned off alaska, and sweet crude in certain states, which will only start pumping once oil hits around $200! the takeover of the middle east, and cutting china off, from oil and minerals, are part of the plan! to top it off, the oldidorks intend to reduce the worlds population by 7B. nothing like chem trails, flouride in water, ans flu shots which contain mercury, cancer causing agents etc.!

Better start sending over 50000 drones to bomb the shit out of them and than ask them to change their mind about Iran.

IT'S CALLED COMMUNICATION!

It's something I learned at school. You twist somebody's arm and than you ask politetly for his lunchmoney. And when you have his money, you put your foot in his ass AND AGAIN POLITETLY YOU SAY: See you Tomorrow BITCH!!

"Where capitalistic entrepreneurship is allowed to function freely, the fighting forces will always be so well equipped that the biggest armies of the backward peoples will be no match for them. There has even been great exaggeration of the danger of making the formulas for manufacturing “secret” weapons universally known. If war comes again, the searching mind of the capitalistic world will always have a head start on the peoples who merely copy and imitate clumsily... The peoples who have developed the system of the market economy and cling to it are in every respect superior to all other peoples... if war becomes unavoidable, they show their superior efficiency in military affairs too. They repel the barbarian aggressors whatever their numbers may be." - Ludwig von Mises, Human Action

I respect LvM. But this quotation does not describe our situation at all. Rothbard and von Mises have a blind spot when it comes to the Rothschilds, organized Jewry, and group competition generally. Methodological individualism has its limits.

Just who are the "barbarian aggressors" in the current world scene? Seriously. Ask the people of Libya.

So the quotation is largely irrelevant. If you have loyalty to the aliens ruling us now, then you are no patriot.

There is very little 'capitalistic entrepeneurship' going on in the USSA; mostly it is a form of crony-capitalistic fascism. We must first defeat the enemy (which is ourselves...e.g. the corporations, banking cartel and so-called 'leaders' in Washingon). Only then will we be in a position to be "free", in which there will be no need (or desire) to conquer others....