....that game was unwatchable. I mean, it really was. Flags every play. Poor execution. Other than seeing Timmons go into beast mode, and the fact that Pgh won, that was just awful football/refereeing.

I'm sorry; the NFL better get it's crap together, because the product really is stinking up the joint. I have the NFL ticket, and I STILL can barely find a game that isn't on commercial or delayed with flags. It's just unwatchable. And if this continues, I may find other things to do come Sunday, like go to the beach or wash my cars. Anything seems like a better way to spend time than what I saw yesterday. It was so bad, that even the win didn't feel that good. For the first time in my memory, I didn't care if I watched other games, missing some of the Steeler game. I would have never felt that way previous until yesterday. Something is flat out wrong.

Oviedo

10-08-2012, 10:58 AM

The biggest problem is holding calls. Guards get call for everything and Tackles can have Harrison in a headlock and get called for nothing.

The hits to the head just won't go away because of litigation issues. As much as the players don't want it they are going to have to start to "go low"

lloydroid

10-08-2012, 11:02 AM

The biggest problem is holding calls. Guards get call for everything and Tackles can have Harrison in a headlock and get called for nothing.

The hits to the head just won't go away because of litigation issues. As much as the players don't want it they are going to have to start to "go low"

The thing with the inconsistency on ticky tack holding calls while OTs can put Harrison in a headlock EVERY PLAY, drives me nuts. That is such major poop.

Slapstick

10-08-2012, 11:28 AM

Not to mention the constant holding by the Eagles' DBs on our WRs...they called it on Ike, but when the Eagles did it, it was invisible...

flippy

10-08-2012, 12:33 PM

I didn't go quite this far, but I was thinking these games are becoming harder to watch. Reviewing every score. Reviewing every turnover.

Heck, I wouldn't mind at this point if instant replay went away completely. Let's stop reviewing everything. Even when we do review the refs get it wrong a lot. Let's just let the guy on the field make the call. Move on and complain about that guy the next day. Like we used to.

And let the players play. Let em all get away with stuff. And if anyone jumps up complaining for a call, throw em out of the game. Anyone that celebrates a first down, throw em out. Anything that drives us all nuts, send the player or the coach to the locker room. Heck tie the broadcast into Twitter and let fans decide. 10 seconds to implement the douche rule. Give the fans 10 seconds to give a yes/no on whether to eject a guy from a game for being a douche.

Do a dance, take a shower.

Don't hand the ball to the ref, take a shower.

Pull of Antonio Brown's shoe and throw it off the field, take a shower.

Let's turn this back into football. How bad is it when a guy like Mundy makes a good hit on a guy and then you see him nervously awaiting a fine. That look on Mundy's face is the perfect poster for why football is dead as we know it.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.

10-08-2012, 12:43 PM

Not to mention the constant holding by the Eagles' DBs on our WRs...they called it on Ike, but when the Eagles did it, it was invisible...

Ike must lead the league in bullsh!t holding and PI calls. He was called for PI against the Jets when he was not even close to the receiver. How bad is that? It is like he became a substitute goat while JH was on the sidelines...."lets just call #24 on every play instead...."

lloydroid

10-08-2012, 12:49 PM

I didn't go quite this far, but I was thinking these games are becoming harder to watch. Reviewing every score. Reviewing every turnover.

Heck, I wouldn't mind at this point if instant replay went away completely. Let's stop reviewing everything. Even when we do review the refs get it wrong a lot. Let's just let the guy on the field make the call. Move on and complain about that guy the next day. Like we used to.

And let the players play. Let em all get away with stuff. And if anyone jumps up complaining for a call, throw em out of the game. Anyone that celebrates a first down, throw em out. Anything that drives us all nuts, send the player or the coach to the locker room. Heck tie the broadcast into Twitter and let fans decide. 10 seconds to implement the douche rule. Give the fans 10 seconds to give a yes/no on whether to eject a guy from a game for being a douche.

Do a dance, take a shower.

Don't hand the ball to the ref, take a shower.

Pull of Antonio Brown's shoe and throw it off the field, take a shower.

Let's turn this back into football. How bad is it when a guy like Mundy makes a good hit on a guy and then you see him nervously awaiting a fine. That look on Mundy's face is the perfect poster for why football is dead as we know it.

Totally agree on all, including the look on Mundy's face indicating what crap this game has turned into. I am a guy who wears Steeler gear, almost year round. And yet, if we keep going down this path, I will give it up. They are turning football into a game where any hard hit is illegal. Take away the hits, and it's not the same game I fell in love with.

Did anyone catch the center for KC going off about the fans cheering when Cassel went down? That was good stuff. He was right. He was super ticked off. I know that is a non sequitur - sorry.

feltdizz

10-08-2012, 02:11 PM

The flags on Mindy and Clark were horrible... sometimes it feels like these calls wouldn't be made if the game was closer. it had a "lets make this interesting" feel to it.

Ghost

10-08-2012, 02:17 PM

The flow of the game was atrocious yesterday. 14 penalties is absurd - 2 for intentionally running out of bounds on punts (WTF?). I can personally say that I don't watch the NFL outside of the Steelers anymore. Maybe it's on in the background but last Sunday afternoon I was out and about all day with Pgh off. Probably won't watch much this Sunday either. It's not fun, the rules are not evenly enforced (did the refs have $$ on how many times they could ignore Eagles PI), and 1:00 games lasting until 4:40 - it's death by over analyzing. Just horrid!

But college ball is fantastic. I've watched about 8 hours worth almost every week. Game after game, it's fun. Mid-week I'm checking CNN to see the college schedule so I can plan accordingly to catch the big games.

lloydroid

10-08-2012, 02:32 PM

The flags on Mindy and Clark were horrible... sometimes it feels like these calls wouldn't be made if the game was closer. it had a "lets make this interesting" feel to it.

Not only that, but the team who had less $ bet towards it, covered the spread. No one can convince me that gambling doesn't heavily influence these games. No way. Any one else remember the game vs. SD 2 years ago, where Troy obviously picked up a fumble and ran it if for a TD, which would have made Pgh cover the line? For NO REASON, the refs said no TD, and that the game was over. They said it was a multi-million (9?) dollar difference JUST with the known bets in Vegas, not to mention what the swing caused in $ to the bookies nation-wide. Troy grabbed a lose ball, ran it into the endzone, and, without explanation, the refs simply said, no TD, game over. That was so blatant. Shame on the NFL for being so corrupt.

lloydroid

10-08-2012, 02:35 PM

The flow of the game was atrocious yesterday. 14 penalties is absurd - 2 for intentionally running out of bounds on punts (WTF?). I can personally say that I don't watch the NFL outside of the Steelers anymore. Maybe it's on in the background but last Sunday afternoon I was out and about all day with Pgh off. Probably won't watch much this Sunday either. It's not fun, the rules are not evenly enforced (did the refs have $$ on how many times they could ignore Eagles PI), and 1:00 games lasting until 4:40 - it's death by over analyzing. Just horrid!

But college ball is fantastic. I've watched about 8 hours worth almost every week. Game after game, it's fun. Mid-week I'm checking CNN to see the college schedule so I can plan accordingly to catch the big games.

I have to admit, I am liking the NFL less and less, and liking college more and more. If the NFL keeps going the way of last week's games, I might just stop watching except for Steeler games. And if it stays as horrid as this game, I might even quit watching that. I am serious.

hawaiiansteel

10-08-2012, 02:47 PM

I thought the game had a great ending though...:tt2

Djfan

10-08-2012, 02:55 PM

This is my mantra of late. It kills me to think that Lambert, Deacon Jones, etc., would not be allowed to play like they did. I can't stand the pussified, QB centric nonsense.

The irony is that the ad for the Fearsome Foursome show was shown a million times. They still make money on that stuff, but it's not allowed now.

I swear I am going to lose my NFL love at this rate.

tiproast

10-08-2012, 06:15 PM

I have to admit, I am liking the NFL less and less, and liking college more and more. If the NFL keeps going the way of last week's games, I might just stop watching except for Steeler games. And if it stays as horrid as this game, I might even quit watching that. I am serious.
Some pretty good football was played up the street yesterday in Foxboro. I heard that one team ran 89 plays on offense. :o

I live in California, and the early game out here was the Steelers game. I agree it was sloppy and there were way too many mistakes. As a somewhat neutral observer, I have to say that I didn't see too many flags that I disagreed with. Just two teams that had bad days on the same Sunday - it happens. Weather was a factor, too.

Unfortunately, the late game here was the 49ers-Bills. Too bad the Bills aren't on the Steelers schedule this year - your offense would look pretty spectacular.

fezziwig

10-08-2012, 08:22 PM

When are the real refs coming back ?

papillon

10-08-2012, 09:39 PM

If the Steelers aren't playing I don't watch the NFL. The only reason I watch the Steelers is because I grew up in the Pittsburgh area and it's in my DNA. My kids are Steeler fans, but only watch football if it's the last resort. They both play soccer that doesn't really stop play for anything and they don't understand how it's entertaining to watch commercials after every series, turnover or review of the play. The NFL has certainly lost them as fans.

Did anyone see the hit on Andrew Luck that was called a penalty? The only reason it was a penalty was because Luck got walloped by an unabated blitzing linebacker, but man the LB gave Luck a good, hard, and clean lick, similar to the one that Ben got from the Ravens linebacker a few years back, almost identical.

Pappy

fezziwig

10-08-2012, 09:45 PM

Your right about the commercials and all that stuff. The time table between this and that takes away from the game. I'm sure it's a help to the team and the players but, it's not enough these days to keep young minds occupied.

ikestops85

10-09-2012, 12:05 PM

If not for the redzone channel I wouldn't watch many pro games either. Watching the steeler games is irritating enough but trying to watch other teams, because I don't care about them, is impossible. I don't watch Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games anymore. I'll flip to them every now and then on the off chance they are not on a commercial break or "under the hood" and I'll watch for a few minutes ... which is all it takes for them to get to a commercial break.

The NFL is killing itself.

Djfan

10-09-2012, 12:19 PM

The NFL is killing itself.

This about sums it up.

papillon

10-09-2012, 01:18 PM

Your right about the commercials and all that stuff. The time table between this and that takes away from the game. I'm sure it's a help to the team and the players but, it's not enough these days to keep young minds occupied.

It's not so much to keep their minds occupied as it is that they play a game that never stops and if you ever watch a Euro soccer match there are zero commercials except halftime and at the end of the game. There are the changing signs along the outside of the field that businesses use for advertising, but that's it. Even when there are fouls or the ball goes out of bounds for the most part the players don't have to wait for a whistle to put the ball back in play. Every play requires the referee to set the ball, blow the whistle, etc.

Of course, soccer doesn't draw any viewership here in the US, so, it hasn't caught on and it may never, but one thing is for sure the game is being played exactly the way it was designed to be played, no stoppage (for the most part), no replays and no commercials. If you're a fan of soccer watching a soccer game is infinitely more entertaining than an NFL game that doesn't involve the Steelers.

Pappy

lloydroid

10-09-2012, 01:21 PM

When are the real refs coming back ?

Dude, is that the real Mrs. Fezziwig? If so, respect.

fezziwig

10-09-2012, 04:47 PM

Dude, is that the real Mrs. Fezziwig? If so, respect.

If that was the real Mrs. Fezziwig I wouldn't be spending so much time on this site. She would be a certain anatomy puppet of mine. DP.

fezziwig

10-09-2012, 04:52 PM

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Slapstick

10-09-2012, 05:11 PM

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