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You are making this into a false dilemma, I.E., your argument is that there are only two options:

1) Pay Flacco a back-breaking salary that renders this team unable to compete ever again, or
2) Dump Flacco.

The reality is that both of those two things are unlikely. In your world, no team would ever be able to re-sign their quarterback.

The most likely scenario is that the Ravens re-sign Flacco to a deal both sides are comfortable with, and I believe that can happen. Another problem with your argument is that we have no idea what the present state of the negotiations are or who is asking for what. We will NEVER know those things, and don't assume the "leaked information" you get from the press is anything other than what it is--noise, fog, and misdirection.

Well, you did post that Flacco wasnt even willing to negotiate until Cam was out of the picture.

RUMOR has it. It's Harbaugh. If season ended today he would be fired. He has the rest of the regular season and the playoffs to keep his job.

You are the king of unsubstantiated, baseless rumors with nothing to back them up.

Bisciotti has made it clear that his goal is to build a consistent contender and get rid of that "closing SuperBowl window" mentality. Harbs has done that. He's doing it this season despite a huge rash of injuries.

No coach in NFL history has started his career with five straight playoff appearances with qt least one win each year. Firing John would fly in the face of Steve's stated goals, and his style.

I think this Harbaugh hot seat talk is nothing but wishful thinking from his growing band of low football iq haters.

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Re: So is Flacco on tht seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

I do too, but Biscuit doesnt like complacency. We'll see if the rumor is true. Their will be several coaching candidates of value this offseason. After about 5 years or so a coaches message in this era gets stale. Did he wait too long to fire CC? Who the hell knows.
I was surprise Biscuit fire BB after a 13-3 season the year before and then had an injury riddled one the next. I guess injuries aren't an excuse.

I agree with this, it would be drastic move, I would think Harbs would have to completely lose the whole team before this happens though.

Re: So is Flacco on the hot seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot

You are the king of unsubstantiated, baseless rumors with nothing to back them up.

Bisciotti has made it clear that his goal is to build a consistent contender and get rid of that "closing SuperBowl window" mentality. Harbs has done that. He's doing it this season despite a huge rash of injuries.

No coach in NFL history has started his career with five straight playoff appearances with qt least one win each year. Firing John would fly in the face of Steve's stated goals, and his style.

I think this Harbaugh hot seat talk is nothing but wishful thinking from his growing band of low football iq haters.

Kinda like they would never fire and Offensive Cordinator this late in the season???

Or the first team in history to dump a QB that just won a Superbowl???

Or maybe Brian Billick when he was released and that was an overnight decision???

Re: So is Flacco on the hot seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

Big difference between Billick and Harbaugh. Bisciotti didn't hire Billick. He never went through the vetting process so who knows if there weren't some personal reasons for getting rid of Billick besides his lack luster performance. Maybe he didn't like Billick's hats, or his faux mensan vocabulary.

We know Bisciotti is comfortable with John Harbaugh. He brought John into the fold. So getting rid of John would be going against his own judgement, and be admitting he made a grave hiring error. Barring multiple losing seasons and the players quitting on John I just don't see it happening.

Re: So is Flacco on the hot seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

Originally Posted by Kevlar

Big difference between Billick and Harbaugh. Bisciotti didn't hire Billick. He never went through the vetting process so who knows if there weren't some personal reasons for getting rid of Billick besides his lack luster performance. Maybe he didn't like Billick's hats, or his faux mensan vocabulary.

We know Bisciotti is comfortable with John Harbaugh. He brought John into the fold. So getting rid of John would be going against his own judgement, and be admitting he made a grave hiring error. Barring multiple losing seasons and the players quitting on John I just don't see it happening.

Billionaires dont become billionaires by not taking risks. Hiring a ST coach with no HC experience was a HUGE risk, drafting a non BCS QB in the first rounds was a HUGE risk. I am not surprised by anything Steve does. He is a forward thinker.

You are the king of unsubstantiated, baseless rumors with nothing to back them up.

Bisciotti has made it clear that his goal is to build a consistent contender and get rid of that "closing SuperBowl window" mentality. Harbs has done that. He's doing it this season despite a huge rash of injuries.

No coach in NFL history has started his career with five straight playoff appearances with qt least one win each year. Firing John would fly in the face of Steve's stated goals, and his style.

I think this Harbaugh hot seat talk is nothing but wishful thinking from his growing band of low football iq haters.

Agreed ... except for the last sentence.

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Re: So is Flacco on the hot seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

If John Harbaugh is on the hot seat, one would have to consider who his replacement would be.

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Re: So is Flacco on the hot seat now, or is it Harbaugh?

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

Doesn't matter, ASB HAS to protect the shield, no matter how obvious the gut feeling is

Maybe we should start a 50-50: Guess ASB's extension number at The Castle. Proceeds to charity. You figure anyone shilling that loud & that often for every single move the franchise makes has to be cashing a check with Biscuit's signature. (How much more pathetic would it be if s/he/it was doing it for free?)