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24/7 Real Sports TalkMon, 20 Jul 2015 07:22:01 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2By: Dan Rakusanhttp://www.prosportsblogging.com/2010/04/06/serves-me-right/comment-page-2/#comment-3850
Dan RakusanSun, 11 Apr 2010 16:59:13 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3850Just letting everyone know that I don't want to jynx the Rangers, and thus am avoiding a pre-game blog. I will, however, come back to either gloat or commit literary suicide after the game....Just letting everyone know that I don’t want to jynx the Rangers, and thus am avoiding a pre-game blog. I will, however, come back to either gloat or commit literary suicide after the game….
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Shane HoopferThu, 08 Apr 2010 03:52:05 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3784Even in styles I'm not sure if they are the same. To be blunt Lucic is a true grinder and needs to get to those dirty areas to have success. He just doesn't have that amazing shot that you have to account for.
I'd sure take Lucic on my team for the right price though ;)Even in styles I’m not sure if they are the same. To be blunt Lucic is a true grinder and needs to get to those dirty areas to have success. He just doesn’t have that amazing shot that you have to account for.

I’d sure take Lucic on my team for the right price though

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Dan RakusanThu, 08 Apr 2010 03:10:50 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3780Iginla had 34 goals in his first 150 games as an NHLer, so I don't see a huge difference there. My point wasn't to compare them statistically, but rather in terms of style of play...Iginla had 34 goals in his first 150 games as an NHLer, so I don’t see a huge difference there. My point wasn’t to compare them statistically, but rather in terms of style of play…
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Dan RakusanThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:51:54 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3779Shane, I only played the race card because the CBC did a big special on it a while back, and let's face it, without Iginla putting up numbers the way he does, guys like McGee would never have gotten credit. That's the extent of my reference...
As for the cap, yes, I agree, it hampers the ability to hold on to an asset over the long haul, although Alfredsson seems to be an exception to that rule... However, I believe the Flames need a "culture overhaul" in general. Hence, trading Iggy makes sense...Shane, I only played the race card because the CBC did a big special on it a while back, and let’s face it, without Iginla putting up numbers the way he does, guys like McGee would never have gotten credit. That’s the extent of my reference…

As for the cap, yes, I agree, it hampers the ability to hold on to an asset over the long haul, although Alfredsson seems to be an exception to that rule… However, I believe the Flames need a “culture overhaul” in general. Hence, trading Iggy makes sense…

]]>By: Shane Hoopferhttp://www.prosportsblogging.com/2010/04/06/serves-me-right/comment-page-2/#comment-3778
Shane HoopferThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:50:51 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3778The problem with Lucic is he has 25 goals in his last 150 games. Until he shows he's more than a 20 goal scorer with a ton of heart he is no where to that elite player level.
Even a Clark Gillies comparison is generous. Bob Nystrom might be a more accurate one right now.The problem with Lucic is he has 25 goals in his last 150 games. Until he shows he’s more than a 20 goal scorer with a ton of heart he is no where to that elite player level.

Even a Clark Gillies comparison is generous. Bob Nystrom might be a more accurate one right now.

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Shane HoopferThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:46:20 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3777I think Jarome's numbers speak for themselves, and to be fair to him he's never had that Adam Oates style of play making center to play with.
Iginla gets the credit because it honestly is deserved. He has the numbers. He also will drop the gloves and play physical. And probably the biggest reasons he gets the credit, is A) He is truly a nice person, and B) He does a ton of work in the community.
In a non cap era I don't think moving Jarome would be considered, however we are in a cap era and 7 million for a 35 goal scorer just isn't going to cut it here and he has HUGE value to a team that consider themselves close to challenging for the cup.
I avoid the race card, because to be blunt this is Canada. And it's never been an issue positive or negative.
To put that in perspective for one time as a matter of fact slavery was abolished in Canada in 1834. I've grown up here my whole life (obviously) and to be honest race never crosses our minds for the most part unless you are watching American TV, where in the US it's far more recent history.
Tough to explain to be honest.I think Jarome’s numbers speak for themselves, and to be fair to him he’s never had that Adam Oates style of play making center to play with.

Iginla gets the credit because it honestly is deserved. He has the numbers. He also will drop the gloves and play physical. And probably the biggest reasons he gets the credit, is A) He is truly a nice person, and B) He does a ton of work in the community.

In a non cap era I don’t think moving Jarome would be considered, however we are in a cap era and 7 million for a 35 goal scorer just isn’t going to cut it here and he has HUGE value to a team that consider themselves close to challenging for the cup.

I avoid the race card, because to be blunt this is Canada. And it’s never been an issue positive or negative.

To put that in perspective for one time as a matter of fact slavery was abolished in Canada in 1834. I’ve grown up here my whole life (obviously) and to be honest race never crosses our minds for the most part unless you are watching American TV, where in the US it’s far more recent history.

Tough to explain to be honest.

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Dan RakusanThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:37:27 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3776I would have to emphatically disagree, as Probie was one of my favourite players growing up... Lucic has far more puck skills than Probert, and less fighting ability. I think more like Neely, but not quite up there, but also another player that comes to mind would be Clark Gillies.I would have to emphatically disagree, as Probie was one of my favourite players growing up… Lucic has far more puck skills than Probert, and less fighting ability. I think more like Neely, but not quite up there, but also another player that comes to mind would be Clark Gillies.
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Shane HoopferThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:34:50 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3775Looking at Lucic a little more in depth, he really reminds me a lot more of Bob Probert (when he was getting 50-60 points) than Iginla.
He would have to make some pretty dramatic strides in improving his skating and overall stick skills to get to an Iginla level.Looking at Lucic a little more in depth, he really reminds me a lot more of Bob Probert (when he was getting 50-60 points) than Iginla.

He would have to make some pretty dramatic strides in improving his skating and overall stick skills to get to an Iginla level.

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Dan RakusanThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:33:21 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3774Wow, I find Iginla to be the most over-rated player in the NHL over the past decade... My reason for comparison is the style of play, not the raw numbers... Iggy is a good (if not damn good) player, but he lacks the ability to win single-handedly. I realize that's not a fair thing to say, given the lack of a top flight center, but realistically, I find he's over-rated because of the fact he's Canadian and (god forbid I say this) black.
I think Lucic reminds me a lot of a young Iginla. I think he has 30+ goal potential each season, and can fight, hit and all the other stuff Iggy does. I just don't see another comparable player because otherwise I'd be saying Cam Neely, and I don't think Iggy is at that level. Again, over-rated.
I think Calgary really needs to trade him out, for a top center (ironically) and a good winger.Wow, I find Iginla to be the most over-rated player in the NHL over the past decade… My reason for comparison is the style of play, not the raw numbers… Iggy is a good (if not damn good) player, but he lacks the ability to win single-handedly. I realize that’s not a fair thing to say, given the lack of a top flight center, but realistically, I find he’s over-rated because of the fact he’s Canadian and (god forbid I say this) black.

I think Lucic reminds me a lot of a young Iginla. I think he has 30+ goal potential each season, and can fight, hit and all the other stuff Iggy does. I just don’t see another comparable player because otherwise I’d be saying Cam Neely, and I don’t think Iggy is at that level. Again, over-rated.

I think Calgary really needs to trade him out, for a top center (ironically) and a good winger.

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Shane HoopferThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:27:54 +0000http://prosportsblogging.com/?p=4367#comment-3773I don't know if Milan Lucic if quite to that level yet. Give him another 3 years and lets see where he is.
In Jarome Iginla you are talking about a player that has scored the most goals since 2000-01. Should have won a Hart trophy, and has won a Rocket Richard trophy.
He's scored 50 goals twice and will get to 500 goals and 1000 points in the next season or two, so it's not really a fair comparison for Lucic.
Right now I would consider Lucic a poor mans Iginla, just because I don't know if Lucic quite has that god given ability to find the net at that level.I don’t know if Milan Lucic if quite to that level yet. Give him another 3 years and lets see where he is.

In Jarome Iginla you are talking about a player that has scored the most goals since 2000-01. Should have won a Hart trophy, and has won a Rocket Richard trophy.

He’s scored 50 goals twice and will get to 500 goals and 1000 points in the next season or two, so it’s not really a fair comparison for Lucic.

Right now I would consider Lucic a poor mans Iginla, just because I don’t know if Lucic quite has that god given ability to find the net at that level.