Cannon "nerf"

Since stuff like antifire shield and wizard guild rune shop started requiring certain quests to slow down bots/gold farmers. Why not go after cannonballs?Cannons are pretty strong for pvm and make slayer pretty annoying to train for other players because of the cannons massive range, damage output and lack of being slowed down by single way combat if the owner isn't in combat.All because cannonballs are kept kinda cheap by constant goldfarmers/bots

None of them are perfect, keep that in mind before calling them stupid

Require high smithing level to make cannonballs, this would make it expensive to bot it because you have to get smithing up first

If the supply of cannonballs becomes too small then grotesque guardians could receive cannonball drops or elite diarys could increase the exp of cannonball smithing to almost match addy dart tip smithing.

DC of Doomsaid: Since stuff like antifire shield and wizard guild rune shop started requiring certain quests to slow down bots/gold farmers. Why not go after cannonballs?Because the things being targeted were primarily F2P botting methods. Cannons require membership, are expensive to use consistently, and don't just give nearly free gold making methods.There'd be no need for 3rd party clients if the default one was decent. I vote no to all non-PvP Wilderness updates, and yes to all PvP Wilderness updates. If you want to revive the wilderness, encourage players to PvP, not lure them to the Wilderness to be victims.

20-Jan-2019 20:15:51
- Last edited on 20-Jan-2019 20:17:01 by FisherGaming

FisherGamingsaid: DC of Doomsaid: Since stuff like antifire shield and wizard guild rune shop started requiring certain quests to slow down bots/gold farmers. Why not go after cannonballs?Because the things being targeted were primarily F2P botting methods. Cannons require membership, are expensive to use consistently, and don't just give nearly free gold making methods.

I have zero knowledge of botting, but you can make a profit by just buying steel bars and making them to cannon balls and as bots don't need breaks or misclick etc, then it's just unfair and very doable.

I'm not trying to say it's a "huge issue" but as long as bots are doing it, then it's a issue - but I think that rasing the requirement etc won't do much, as rich players who can afford it, will still be able to afford it. I think we just have to trust that Jagex is working constantly on preventing bots.

StakeNetsaid: FisherGamingsaid: DC of Doomsaid: Since stuff like antifire shield and wizard guild rune shop started requiring certain quests to slow down bots/gold farmers. Why not go after cannonballs?Because the things being targeted were primarily F2P botting methods. Cannons require membership, are expensive to use consistently, and don't just give nearly free gold making methods.

I have zero knowledge of botting, but you can make a profit by just buying steel bars and making them to cannon balls and as bots don't need breaks or misclick etc, then it's just unfair and very doable.

I'm not trying to say it's a "huge issue" but as long as bots are doing it, then it's a issue - but I think that rasing the requirement etc won't do much, as rich players who can afford it, will still be able to afford it. I think we just have to trust that Jagex is working constantly on preventing bots.

True but most bots are banned within a week usually, so the harder it is to get the smithing level, the less likely it is for bots to actually be able to make them before being banned.And it's very unlikely that botters are going to spend hundreds of millions gold to level up an account that might only have one or 2 days of playtime before it's disabled.

StakeNetsaid: I have zero knowledge of botting, but you can make a profit by just buying steel bars and making them to cannon balls and as bots don't need breaks or misclick etc, then it's just unfair and very doable.Since you have no knowledge of botting, I'll let you know: most bots are in F2P.

The bot detection is actually pretty decent, and they regularly bans tens of thousands of bots. The problem is banning those bots has zero effect, because they can just make a new account, totally free of cost, and go right back to botting.

Furthermore, most bots don't do resource processing to make money. While you can obviously make a profit doing cannon balls, it requires a substantial amount of initial investment to make money at a decent rate. Most bots are just doing gathering methods, because they have no/low requirements to get started, and no/low investment costs.

It isn't worth it for bots to invest in membership, time spent unlocking the cannon, and a few million gold into an account for ~150k/hr profit.There'd be no need for 3rd party clients if the default one was decent. I vote no to all non-PvP Wilderness updates, and yes to all PvP Wilderness updates. If you want to revive the wilderness, encourage players to PvP, not lure them to the Wilderness to be victims.

07-Feb-2019 12:10:05
- Last edited on 07-Feb-2019 12:10:22 by FisherGaming