<quoted text>Who the hell wants to go back thousands of years?? What in the world are you talking about?I thought the discussion was about gays. Are you smoking pot?And why do you randomly capitalize letters? I'm just curious about that.Evidence and argumentation or else I'm gonna assume you broke into the mushroom collection. Start by defining what it actually is you are talking about.

No.. no pot.. been dry around these parts... The comment was about Progress... Homosexuality is far from Progress.... As I said History 1000's of years ago made it the Norm in several societies that then collapsed... Calling something Progress that happened several times in the past is Not very Progressive....

I type using my style... Since it is Impossible to denote tone and emphasis in the printed word I Capitalize those words I would tend to Emphasize during a verbal conversation....

<quoted text>Hell, I am just hoping someday you guys will progress from the mentality of the fifties. You know, the days when all turned a blind eye to beating up a homosexual. The days when no one dared admit to being homosexual.

Then again assuming ... I have several homosexual friends and would defend anyone from attack no matter the individuals proclivities... I was but pointing out regressing to a mindset that was had by several societies a 1000 years or more in the past is not Progress...

Personally I could care less of anyone sexual proclivities between Adults... But I no more want to hear about then, see them or know about them in the homosexual community as I do the Heterosexual community... I don't want to see a Straight Pride parade any more than I want to see a Gay Pride Parade...

All sexual proclivities should stay in ones private lives ... The destruction of societies as a ongoing endeavor starts with the slippery slope of decadence...

<quoted text>No.. no pot.. been dry around these parts... The comment was about Progress... Homosexuality is far from Progress.... As I said History 1000's of years ago made it the Norm in several societies that then collapsed... Calling something Progress that happened several times in the past is Not very Progressive....I type using my style... Since it is Impossible to denote tone and emphasis in the printed word I Capitalize those words I would tend to Emphasize during a verbal conversation....

So you attribute the homosexuality of the past to the collapse of the society? BTW, no one is trying to make homosexuality the norm, we are just trying to give homosexuals equal rights and privileges. If you are going to make a fantastic charge like this, at least supply an ounce of reasoning. You may as well be telling us that togas cause societies to collapse.

<quoted text>Then again assuming ... I have several homosexual friends and would defend anyone from attack no matter the individuals proclivities... I was but pointing out regressing to a mindset that was had by several societies a 1000 years or more in the past is not Progress...Personally I could care less of anyone sexual proclivities between Adults... But I no more want to hear about then, see them or know about them in the homosexual community as I do the Heterosexual community... I don't want to see a Straight Pride parade any more than I want to see a Gay Pride Parade...All sexual proclivities should stay in ones private lives ... The destruction of societies as a ongoing endeavor starts with the slippery slope of decadence...

I don't really give a damn what you wish to see. Maybe you should move to Iran to get your wishes. All you pointed out were vague talking points. You don't like decadence? Iran would be a dream country for you.

You put homosexuality in line with decadence, why? Why not just call it an abomination like the fundies, because that is exactly what you sound like right now.

<quoted text>Then again assuming ... I have several homosexual friends and would defend anyone from attack no matter the individuals proclivities... I was but pointing out regressing to a mindset that was had by several societies a 1000 years or more in the past is not Progress...Personally I could care less of anyone sexual proclivities between Adults... But I no more want to hear about then, see them or know about them in the homosexual community as I do the Heterosexual community... I don't want to see a Straight Pride parade any more than I want to see a Gay Pride Parade...All sexual proclivities should stay in ones private lives ... The destruction of societies as a ongoing endeavor starts with the slippery slope of decadence...

If the fundie kids are bullying the homosexual kids, then they are going to hear about it. Again, who cares that it offends your fundamentalist mind?

You know what would likely get homosexual marriage talked about less? Allowing them to marry! Until you stop with the bigotry, you will get an ear full. Don't like it? To damned bad.

<quoted text>What I get out of your post is, you cannot understand a simple debate about a god that is believed by billions.If I were debating a believer in Zeus, I would ask him if Zeus was

responsible for all lighting. Does that mean I would believe in Zeus?I debate the idea of a god, not the god itself, as the god clearly cannot answer any questions. He is does not speak or show himself. But believers show themselves, and often claim to speak for the gods. The bible is full of such persons.BTW, you did not answer my question, you answered another question that I did not ask. Typical of believers. You must deny to yourself, the contradictions in order to stay in your delusion, so you ignore the actual question and make up new ones to respond to.Denial is the key to delusion. Your post shows how you lie to yourself.

<quoted text>It is obvious that you asked the question that you now deny asking.It is also obvious that you did not like the answer.Mike Duquette wrote:<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.Can he create a rock he cannot lift?I believe this passage will answer your question...."... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."If you seek answers from the right source, answers will be provided.If you seek for gold in a latrine, you will not find any.....Always remember, Go to the source...Nuff said

What does shame of a human stumbling on a rock have to do with god creating a stone he cannot lift? I cannot read your mind, tell me the connection as I do not see it. I see they both involve a rock, but that is the end of the connection.

<quoted text>It is obvious that you asked the question that you now deny asking.It is also obvious that you did not like the answer.Mike Duquette wrote:<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.Can he create a rock he cannot lift?I believe this passage will answer your question...."... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."If you seek answers from the right source, answers will be provided.If you seek for gold in a latrine, you will not find any.....Always remember, Go to the source...Nuff said

"He is magic, nuff said.It was sarcasm and it was not a question.

You are certainly not the best source to find answers from. If a god ever appears to me, I will ask him. Until then, I do not believe a god exists.

Of course those with blind faith have no shame in their position, because they believe it is perfect, no matter how much evidence shows the contrary. Another word for it is, hubris.

http://www.redding.com/news/20 08/jun/17/are-we-born-gay-scie nce-suggests-yes/do whut wrote, "<quoted text>Slippery slope that has been discussed here before is what I was referring to. Yes someone else mentioned it was a hoax. That's great, but it will happen soon enough even if it's just to make a statement. "

There is no connection between bestiality and homosexuality. NONE. If you'd done a web search you would have found that there was a man in Sudan who was forced to marry a goat BY his church.do whut wrote, "<quoted text>Just because I don't approve of the actions of some people doesn't mean I think they deserve to be beat up. "

Your words are hollow. There are other forms of bullying and abuse besides physical beatings. Some recognize it.http://www.thepeacewriter.com/2012/05/lds-the...Just because you might not be the one throwing the punch or holding the fag down doesn't mean that attitudes like yours aren't the force and "justification" behind it.

"Suggests" is not conclusive. The rest of your post is you making assumptions.

<quoted text>What does shame of a human stumbling on a rock have to do with god creating a stone he cannot lift? I cannot read your mind, tell me the connection as I do not see it. I see they both involve a rock, but that is the end of the connection.

I can make the connection....That you would not understand is quite obvious by your having to ask the question......

<quoted text>"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."---AristotleAtheists merely point out the obvious... IF there were such a creature as Yahweh as described in the bible, then he would be a monster.We also point out the fact that there is NO PROOF for such a being other than in the delusional minds of some people.Your "distinct impression" is incorrect.

One can entertain a thought without accepting it.

When one is consumed by that thought which one claims not to accept,,,, is where your heartaches begin and a rational explanation for such behaviour should be addressed....

Is it that your spirit can not accept that your mind and heart have deceived you?

Could it be that he who judges the heart and mind is dealing with you according to your ways?

<quoted text>"Suggests" is not conclusive.The rest of your post is you making assumptions.

Actually, suggests is as conclusive as you can get in science. When evidence suggests something, that means it "points" to that thing, and no alternative. You should learn English and then scientific lingo before you attempt to address such issues.

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