For The DevelopmentRichard Sidi Director, Land & LakesJoe Lock, (Lab) Councillor,Holyhead Town

Although the development is in Joe Lock's Town Council ward, it's surprising Labour have allowed him out of his box. He's not a particulalrly gifted politician in my opinion, possessing a remarkable ability to shoot himself in the foot, but for some reason the local Labour party continue to have great faith in his future.

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Joe Lock has withdrawn. One wonders whether he has been ordered to. Paterson-Jones would have minced him very very quickly and easily. Speculation is that they will 'up-gun' their team and put either Chorlton or even Albert in his place.

Another possibility is Labour do not wish to appear divided and because Raymond Jones is part of the 'anti' group and is definately not for turning or even lowering his profile, they will surrender their 'pro' place to someone not connected to the Labour Party

THERE IS A SITE MEETING AT PENRHOS THIS THURSDAY 21st FEBRUARY AT 11AM. THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE WHO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE LAND& LAKES PLANS WILL BE VISITING PENRHOS. AMONGST THINGS THEY WILL ASSESS IS MANY PEOPLE ARE WALKING THERE. IF YOU ARE FREE CAN YOU BE THERE TO SHOW THESE PEOPLE HOW BUSY PENRHOS GETS.

Not much help for the 21st, but I was there yesterday and the car park was FULL, lots of people and children enjoying themselves. One wonders what the point of going there mid-week is when the children have just gone back to school?

Not much help for the 21st, but I was there yesterday and the car park was FULL, lots of people and children enjoying themselves. One wonders what the point of going there mid-week is when the children have just gone back to school?

Blaster

My personal opinion is they have picked term-time, midweek, winter in order to deliberately get an artificially low impression of usage.

Aye, for many tourists, holidaymakers etc that are onbly there during the summer months, it is also something of a pilgrimage.

I think more or less everytime I come to Caergybi I visit in turn: Penrhos; South Stack; Newry; the Breakwater and various other places, just for the tranquility.

Che, has BBC/ITV news been informed of this meeting? They may be interested in sending a crew up.

Yes. In my capacity as webmaster for the website (savepenrhos.co.uk), I have sent details to all the local and regional press and also to the BBC and other interested organisations (RSPB, Badger Protection, Friends of the Earth etc)

Gutted I can't make it, I would love to ask them how the development is going to create 600 jobs as reported in todays Daily Post.

They starting to box clever over that. As the discerning reader knows they use the phrase (fte) in conjunction wiht jobs and are now mumbling about dependent on season, site occupancy rates etc etc.

Other things that are being downplayed - even though they are in council discussion documents, the planning applications etc are that they already have a similar complex in Cumbria. It's less than 30% finished and is up for sale. The 500 associated houses they wish to build at Kingsland - the vast bulk will not be aimed at 'locals' and already behind the scenes they and certain councillors want some of the cymraeg schools changing back to English for fear that the development will not attract the 'right type' of people if they can't send their kids to local schools because they don't understand welsh. And the final thing they play down is that the holiday park at Penrhos/Cae Glas won't start being built until after the workers accommodation is pulled down after Wylfa B is built so using an example timescale based on pre-Wylfa work starting tomorrow and the published build times, Penrhos Holiday Park will not open for business for 14 years at least.

It was the Planning Inspectors. Apparently they don't believe that the checks and environmental studies have been carried out properly and may be sending them back to L&L with a very tight time limit to re-do them satisfactorily

The first story you could comment on, the second is the same story, with one sentence from an opponent, one sentence from a supporter - and two paragraphs from Richard Sidi and no comments allowed. Sidi makes the observation that it's only 1% of Anglesey's coastline.

Which is exactly the point Sidi you cretin. We don't oppose you building it, just building it there build it somewhere on the other 99% - such as next to Wylfa.

I know Che, the daftest idea that it is possible to develop an area of outstanding natural beauty says it all really?

Oh all those lovely natural holiday homes in place of 200 year old trees, and there will still be a small part of the area freely open to the public, well it's all going to be accessible to the public so long as you pay for a holiday there.

It represents a remarkable shift in position by CCW. 4 months ago they were ambivalent towards the project but since they got more involved in the detail of the proposals and visiting the site to see for themselves they have moved from ambivalence to total opposition in any shape or form. Such a dramatic shift in such a short space of time has caused the Welsh Government to bring forward their next committee meeting to the week after next. So that's now NWWT, CCW, FoE, Woodland Trust and several other big-hitters firmly in the 'no' camp.

It represents a remarkable shift in position by CCW. 4 months ago they were ambivalent towards the project but since they got more involved in the detail of the proposals and visiting the site to see for themselves they have moved from ambivalence to total opposition in any shape or form. Such a dramatic shift in such a short space of time has caused the Welsh Government to bring forward their next committee meeting to the week after next. So that's now NWWT, CCW, FoE, Woodland Trust and several other big-hitters firmly in the 'no' camp.