I have a Whole New Respect for Desi, WTF happend to Shalane???

OK Shalane, time to start having those babies, seems you've lost all heart. For someone who talked so much before the race, you'd think she would at least be Americas top finisher. but 2 minutes behind Desi????

Desi ran well and has nicely returned to her old form after bad injuries. But, she needs to throw out her race tactics handbook and start all over again. She kept pushing the pace because she always is obsessed with her race plan. She obviously wanted to run 2:25. When the pace would get too tactical, she would bring it back up to where she wanted to be. The result is that she paced the E. Africans very nicely and had nothing to respond to the big final kick. She needs to believe in herself and throw out the race plan. Just go out with the leaders, stay with them and put them away when the time is right. Slow pace or fast pace should not mean anything. She should be ready for anything and should not do anyone any favors by rabbitting if the pace falls off.

Desi ran well and has nicely returned to her old form after bad injuries. But, she needs to throw out her race tactics handbook and start all over again. She kept pushing the pace because she always is obsessed with her race plan. She obviously wanted to run 2:25. When the pace would get too tactical, she would bring it back up to where she wanted to be. The result is that she paced the E. Africans very nicely and had nothing to respond to the big final kick. She needs to believe in herself and throw out the race plan. Just go out with the leaders, stay with them and put them away when the time is right. Slow pace or fast pace should not mean anything. She should be ready for anything and should not do anyone any favors by rabbitting if the pace falls off.

If the women don't try and stress the EA's and hopefully they have a bad day and break or just don't have it, then they let the EA's cruise into Boston and use their superior speed and beat them that way. Desi at least tried, I admire her for that. And Shalane too for trying it last year.

If the women don't try and stress the EA's and hopefully they have a bad day and break or just don't have it, then they let the EA's cruise into Boston and use their superior speed and beat them that way. Desi at least tried, I admire her for that. And Shalane too for trying it last year.

And both failed when they tried because front running wastes energy. Meb got away with it because he got a sizeable break and the field did not time their charge on him properly. But Desi and Shalane just rabbitted for the E. Africans. They never had a real lead. They just pushed the pace and did all the work. Even when E. Africans do that, it doesn't work (look at T. Tola in the men's race today).

If the women don't try and stress the EA's and hopefully they have a bad day and break or just don't have it, then they let the EA's cruise into Boston and use their superior speed and beat them that way. Desi at least tried, I admire her for that. And Shalane too for trying it last year.

And both failed when they tried because front running wastes energy. Meb got away with it because he got a sizeable break and the field did not time their charge on him properly. But Desi and Shalane just rabbitted for the E. Africans. They never had a real lead. They just pushed the pace and did all the work. Even when E. Africans do that, it doesn't work (look at T. Tola in the men's race today).

It's sad, but probably true, that an American's only hope of winning a major marathon is for the whole field to think so lowly of you that they don't care if you take a flyer. Or on the conspiracy side, unless the race is set up for an American to win.

Too bad Kim Smith's break-away effort was thwarted by injury before seeing if it could play out in her favor.

Imagine if Desi actually trained properly? She is pretty much running on talent right now.

She would be sub-2:20 if she was with Renato or someone similar.

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OK Shalane, time to start having those babies, seems you've lost all heart. For someone who talked so much before the race, you'd think she would at least be Americas top finisher. but 2 minutes behind Desi????

Shalane gave it her all! The Marathon is a beast. You could run 100 of them and 75 of them be bad. Lot's can happen over 26.2 miles! She ran tough, fell back, threw another surge in, and it just wasn't there. No need to bash her! 9th place is great! 26.2 miles might not be here race.

How do you come up with that? Desi is the better marathoner only in the sense that she slows down less from 1500m to marathon. In the sense of head to head competition and best legitimate, non- wind-aided times, Shalane goes 11-1 all-time, and she's better at 3000m (8:33), 5000m (14:44), 10000m (AR), and marathon (2:21:14, #2 U.S. all-time).3,000m - 8:33.25, AR (2007); 5,000m - 14:44.80 (2007); 10,000m - 30:22.22, AR (2008); Half marathon -1:08:31 (2010); Marathon - 2:21:14 (Boston 2:22:02 (2014))

Blah blah blah is all I hear from Shalane. I'm sorry, but had you won the race or even finished on the podium you would have never brought up the injury. Stop making excuses. Now it's a cop-out to another performance where you talked a huge game and didn't deliver. Yes, I'm trolling a little bit, but there is a lot of truth in what I said, as well.

Blah blah blah is all I hear from Shalane. I'm sorry, but had you won the race or even finished on the podium you would have never brought up the injury. Stop making excuses. Now it's a cop-out to another performance where you talked a huge game and didn't deliver. Yes, I'm trolling a little bit, but there is a lot of truth in what I said, as well.