“We Need To Face Life Kind of Like Stonewall Jackson Did”

I thought we all deserved a little inspiration at the end of this long week. We should all approach our lives as counterfactual and gain solace in knowing that the world may be much better off had we been accidentally struck down by accident. The message that I took away from this is that had Jackson lived and Lee won at Gettysburg the Confederacy may have succeeded in gaining its independence. In that case slavery would have continued. Jackson’s death clearly served God’s plan: “All is well.” Is that about right?

Actually no. Had the Confederacy wanted to continue slavery all they would have to do is stay in the Union. Yes slavery was at the time part of southern life but so was ‘free’ blacks in the North worrking in factories that paid them next to nothing for their work and starving to death while they could not afford food to eat. It was the cause of self-determination that spurrered the south to leave the Union. They done so legally and peacefully until the federal forces of Fort Sumpter refused to return the confederate fort to southern hands. But as far as slavery in America goes the the Red, White and Blue you solute everyday is about the largest pro-slave flag as you can go. The Confederacy was in exestance for about five years. But the Union had the institution of slavery for nearly 80 years up unto that point. And at the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution ALL 13 colonies had slaves. Why did the moral and superior northern states free their slaves? For a couple of reasons. The first is that most white laborers were so prejudiced that they refused to work with african americans. But the largest reason is that it was not profitable. So they ended slavery but became the most active player in the slave trade. Ironic isn’t it? Niether did they fight the war to free slaves. They fought to ‘preserve the union’ but what is the Union anyways? A set of borders and a flag? No! It was an ideal that all people, everywhere as a free person has the god given right to self determination. Notice I used the word WAS. Meaning past tense. The ideal is dead in America today and the founding laws of this land are violated daily by our federal government. Can this idea be brought back? Possible but I doubt it. But they idea that a war was needed to ‘end slavery’ is false. Even the war did not end slavery it was the thirteenth ammendment. I am an 19 year old American and Navy Sailor. A citizen of the state of Georgia and I have lost almost all confidence in the American system. It either needs to be reformed immediatly or as soon as possible or abolished. From the very founding this nation has set out on the road to Imperialism, the question is is it the same today? I believe that only our methods have changed. But let us not forget that no nation in history or today is indivisable or eternal. All powers are eventually replaced. It is simply the way of the world. Even mighty Rome and the USSR have collapsed on their own weight if we are not careful it will happen to the United States of America. And maybe it will not be such a bad thing.

“But the Union had the institution of slavery for nearly 80 years up unto that point.”

This is a breathtakingly stupid argument, and I’m surprised to hear so many variations of it (“slave ship flew the Yankee flag”, etc.). You do realize that, for those “nearly 80 years,” “the Union” included places like South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, and so on, right?

Yeah, it also included New York, Pennsylvania and Maine. But when it comes to slavery they treat it as a southern sin. And they kick, scream and make sure that southerners never stand tall with dignity as we should always repent for the past. Which they bought, sold and traded to us. It was also a slave state, Virginia that attempted to stop the slave trade in America. But the north would hear none of it, they were making too much money. It was the North that fought to keep the slave trade going. And I made a great argument based on facts of history. It is your reply that made about as much sense as “Your argument is stuid, STUPID!”

But the north would hear none of it, they were making too much money. It was the North that fought to keep the slave trade going.

That’s a very strange interpretation. The institution of slavery was controlled on the state level. Northern states gradually abolished it following the Revolution, but for a number of reasons the southern states did not do so. The state of Maine never included slaves.