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Comment by Nulgar

Since you apparently get 50 attempts at the start, mentioning them in this achievement is pretty moot, as you cannot die anyway, and probably can't reset bosses, so you have to do all of the bosses in the first attempt anyway - of course, with no one dying.

Comment by magik8ball

Keep in mind that this is also Heroic difficulty.

Comment by Kokorazashi

So basically, do the 25 Man Heroic version of TotC without any wipes, from start to finish. Rewards from doing so will give you iLVL 298 items, or so I've heard. This all seems pretty extreme from my point of view.

Comment by xger

The top cloaks for completeing with 50 or more attempts left are ilvl 272. No idea where you get 298. Also this particular achievement requires no deaths, but everyone gets a mount as it is the achievement reward.

For completeing it with 50 tries and some deaths, you get 4 258 tier tokens, a 272 cloak, a 258 weapon.

Comment by Deltrus

This would actually be incorrect as that is a different achievement you are talking about. You are talking about one where you still have all 50 attempts left, but people can die, on this one, no one may die. They are very alike, but there is that one important difference. This is the new Ironbount Proto drake or Black Proto Drake.

For simply having all 50 attempts left you will have one mount drop out of the chest, this one gives a mount to everyone as they succeeded the top and hardest achievement in Trial.

Comment by Zabel

I doubt this is the "new ironbound/black proto drake" this instance is suppose to be a filler/wellfare boost before arthas and the next expansion, in no way does it compare to the difficulty of Alone in the Darkness 25man or Sunwell pre-nerf.

Woopie doo ground mounts, they better go faster then others for it to be even worth it.

Comment by Zabel

I doubt this is the "new ironbound/black proto drake" this instance is suppose to be a filler/wellfare boost before arthas and the next expansion, in no way does it compare to the difficulty of Alone in the Darkness 25man or Sunwell pre-nerf.

Any word on how fast these mounts really go? Very fast is not very descriptive, would be nice if they went faster then others.

Comment by Halbarad

they are 100% GROUND Mounts

Comment by gorocz

Alone of the Darkness is not required for Glory of the Ulduar Raider, so it's not really relevant mentioning while comparing these two achievements.

Also the difficulty of this achievement should be (I'm not saying if it is or isn't) on par with Glory of the Ulduar Raider AND Conqueror of Ulduar completed at once (theoretically put of course).

Comment by simis10

Since this is a feat of strenght you dont really need it, but for you hardcores out there who wants to /flex, get it ;)

Comment by ziddy1232

I highly doubt we will see many people with the mount. This is an extremely hard achievement hence the reason it is a Feat of Strength.

However, if there is one guild that could probabaly do this, it's Ensidia.

Comment by c4tuna

How are there still Ensidia fanboys out there even though they only scraped into the top 3 by cheating?

Comment by ziddy1232

Im not a "Fanboy", but i know a good guild when i see one.

Comment by ziddy1232

I'm not a "Fanboy" but i do know a good guild when i see one, and as they earned the Realm First! Grand Crusader on 24th September, i doubt it will be long before they get it done with no deaths.

Comment by Linty

The main reason I see this FoS being so hard to get is because of the faction champions fight. Their lack of logical agro list commonly results in people randomly getting gibbed.

Keeping everyone alive throughout any of the last three encounters will be difficult the but fight mechanics of faction champions just make it that much harder.

Comment by Archean

Actually it's dealing with no DC's during any fights or having any stupid mishaps occuring that you cannot avoid that can cost this achievement. You can lose this FoS easily on almost every fight from stuff you cannot control. Why blizzard decided it was a good idea to make another naxx type immortal is beyond me, but I hope it doesn't carry over to Icecrown as well.

Comment by kildex

well faction champions isn't that hard. My guild did it without any1 dies in the second week. Twins is alot harder without any1 dies,

Comment by mkicon

Tales of your recent performance inthe Trial of the Grand Crusader will betold, and retold, for ages to come. Asthe Argent Crusade issued its call forthe greatest champions of Azeroth totest their mettle in the crucible of theColiseum. I hoped against hope thatbeacons of light such as you and yourcompanions might emerge from the fray.

We will need you direly in the comingbattle against the Lich King. But onthis day, rejoice and celebrate yourglorious accomplishment, and acceptthis gift of one of our very finestwarhorses. When the Scourge see itsbanner looming on the horizon, hero, their end shall be nigh!

Yours with Honor,Tirion Fordring

Feel free to look at the screen shot here and correct any typos I made above.

Comment by mkicon

Tales of your recent performance inthe Trial of the Grand Crusader will betold, and retold, for ages to come. Asthe Argent Crusade issued its call forthe greatest champions of Azeroth totest their mettle in the crucible of theColiseum. I hoped against hope thatbeacons of light such as you and yourcompanions might emerge from thefray.

We will need you direly in the comingbattle against the Lich King. But onthis day, rejoice and celebrate yourglorious accomplishment, and acceptthis gift of one of our very finestwarhorses. When the Scourge see itsbanner looming on the horizon, hero,their end shall be nigh!

Yours with Honor,Tirion Fordring

Feel free to look at the screen shot and correct any typos I made above.

edit: took out screenshot link

Comment by felixmdx

unreal achievment O.o

Comment by Cainite

Oh man... All I got to say for this: Faction Champions send their regards!

Comment by Zozmic

Was that really necessary? I mean...its a horse.

Comment by theemann

Heres how to fake the achievement with your name in it/run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffffff00\124Hachievement:4156:"..strsub(UnitGUID("player"),3)..":1:7:5:10:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295\124h\124h\124r")

Comment by Croththepally

Is this achie still avavible? Noticed it was a FoS achie, but it must be because of the 50 attempts. Any1 that can answer? :)

Comment by rayquaza11

Warcraftmounts.com lists the mount reward as "retired". They don't explain how or why, though.

Comment by tsukasadt

Confirmed with GM Mirdrellos that the Legacy achievements are all unobtainable achievements the developers determined were not sufficient to be classified as Feats of Strength.