Mike Chewbacca:CheatCommando: Not so sure about that. If they felt that way, the initial bombing would have been a suicide operation. I think what we have here is kids who have absorbed enough American culture to think suicide is stupid. I'm putting this down to sheer panic when they realized that they were not the supermen they thought they were, and that this isn't a videogame where they can go back to a prior save and rethink their strategy.

The older (dead) one strapped a small bomb to his chest. The cops think the younger one has one, too.

That would be post-panic. Now he may see no way out. Quit making him out to be a comic book villian - evil is usually far more banal than that.

Even now the Tea-hadists on Fox are trying to spin this by calling this pair "Russians". Chechens are not Russians, they are not even Slavic. No one will admit that our "good Muslim" friends have repeatedly turned on Murica and farked up its shiat.

USP .45:Novart: So many people were hoping this would be the work of right wing extremists. A real tragedy.

you still have those claiming victory because these dudes were from the Caucasus and are technically religious right, not even trying to be ironic about it.

"see, right-wing white people!"

Ok, the people who really wanted this to be right wing extremists a la teabaggers have an ax to grind and are not playing with a full deck.

For the sane of us who were hoping it was home grown, you do understand is was so that we would not have to deal with any international complications should they get away, I don't know what is wrong with wanting that?

As a matter of fact, I don't think you could prove otherwise without injecting your own ideology and exposing your true agenda on the matter.

I'm glad we got one and it looks like it's just a matter of time before we get this other guy and though I don't know a whole lot about Chechnia I'm going to guess they are not going to give us any trouble when it comes to this guy.

But if we really want to inject politics into this...

Clinton - 1st World Trade bombers caught on his watchObama - Perpetrators of 1st and 2nd worse terrorist attacks apprehended (matter of time) under his watch.

But enough of that. Radio just said Guy is 'forcing their line' and saying 'You killed my brother' Me thinks we may be at his breaking point. Man, this is going to make one hell of a movie.

nekom:cptrios: DamnYankees: This kid must be scared beyond his mind right now. Not that we need to feel bad for him, but just from a sociological point of view, imagine how farked he must feel.

I know you're getting a ton of crap for this, but it's a completely valid thought...I get the feeling that this kid was in thrall to his older brother and is at best a reluctant participant. It doesn't mean we should feel sorry for him, but it means that it might be possible to take him alive and get to the bottom of all of this.

Let's hope so. Not because I want blood (them both being dead would suffice for that), but because I want answers. I want the WHY behind this.

Why? Serious question. At best, this kid is going to spout an explanation which you will reject. At worst, you'll agree with him that "They had it coming."

ACunningPlan:One of the most interesting insights into Tamerlan's personality so far comes from a photo album, titled "Will Box For Passport," that photographer Johannes Hirn took of the slain suspect. Tamerlan was apparently a boxer who hoped to gain citizenship by being selected for the U.S. Olympic team: "Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia," Hirn wrote.Other captions paint Tamerlan as a devoted Muslim. "I'm very religious," he says at one point, noting that he does not smoke or drink alchol. "There are no values anymore," he says, worrying that "people can't control themselves."Tamerlan also appears isolated and bewildered by American life. "I don't have a single American friend," he laments, despite living in the United States for five years. "I don't understand them."

Maybe this is why he targeted a sporting event; and maybe being a devout Muslim had nothing to do with this?