Fightingthetide wrote: Pick up an X Buzzz to compliment your Z, or get some MD2's. I would say do one of those two things if Rocs are not your preferred mid.

Anything wrong with the D Buzz?

I'm starting to think that I might drop the M Voodoo and make my 2 mids a Comet and Q-Sentinel.

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If one of the Tbirds is worn, it might be redundant with the Leo. You could just have one or the other. I haven't thrown a Vector, but from what I've read it's like a new DX Rancho that holds it's stability a long time. Maybe compliment the Buzzz.

Steve wrote:A mid that gets overlooked by everyone around the boards but can do it all is the shark. It is a great line carver and accurate approach disc as well. It will work well off the tee on holes under 300'. It can also be easily found in multiple plastics (champ is getting harder to find) at almost any DG store.

The Shark was one of the first discs i ever got and I love the Shark, but the Buzz seems to do everything the Shark does, better.

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Steve wrote:A mid that gets overlooked by everyone around the boards but can do it all is the shark. It is a great line carver and accurate approach disc as well. It will work well off the tee on holes under 300'. It can also be easily found in multiple plastics (champ is getting harder to find) at almost any DG store.

The Shark was one of the first discs i ever got and I love the Shark, but the Buzz seems to do everything the Shark does, better.

Buzzzes are great off the pad, but I found they blow by the basket more often than slower mids like the shark or qms on approaches.

Steve wrote:A mid that gets overlooked by everyone around the boards but can do it all is the shark. It is a great line carver and accurate approach disc as well. It will work well off the tee on holes under 300'. It can also be easily found in multiple plastics (champ is getting harder to find) at almost any DG store.

The Shark was one of the first discs i ever got and I love the Shark, but the Buzz seems to do everything the Shark does, better.

Buzzzes are great off the pad, but I found they blow by the basket more often than slower mids like the shark or qms on approaches.

If I'm afraid of blowing past the basket, I'll use an M Voodoo or Wizard.

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Keep the other voodoo in the car, add a wiz or some other more stable than a voodoo disc you can PnA with, rhyno, challenger, maybe even a spider. Use buzz for stable short range by powering down and adding hyzer, at mid range length buzz for straight and turnover, powered down leo or tb for overstable. Maybe add a buzz ss/ d or x buzz, possibly a comet or some other less stable mold if you arent comfortable with buzz for annys

P is good to start with. I have a flattened 174 P and a 180 C with a tiny bit of dome. I love them. I went through the gamut with mids - buzzz to md2 to roc to buzzz, now back to md2. It's all preference. Pick up a X Buzzz and a P MD2 around the same weight, compare, then decide what you want to stick with.

P is good to start with. I have a flattened 174 P and a 180 C with a tiny bit of dome. I love them. I went through the gamut with mids - buzzz to md2 to roc to buzzz, now back to md2. It's all preference. Pick up a X Buzzz and a P MD2 around the same weight, compare, then decide what you want to stick with.

Cool, thanx!!! I've already got some X Buzz's so now I just need to find MD2's in P plastic GGGT seems to be out, does anyone know who has P MD2's in stock?

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Roc Lover wrote:Keep the other voodoo in the car, add a wiz or some other more stable than a voodoo disc you can PnA with, rhyno, challenger, maybe even a spider. Use buzz for stable short range by powering down and adding hyzer, at mid range length buzz for straight and turnover, powered down leo or tb for overstable. Maybe add a buzz ss/ d or x buzz, possibly a comet or some other less stable mold if you arent comfortable with buzz for annys

OK, some of this I was thinking about already, so here's how I've modified my bag pending the arrival of P-MD2's for testing.

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An ESP Zone can fill your overstable slot for shots under 300' you already throw heavy Z Buzzz's which thrown cleanly can hold some pretty sick hyzers out to 330' plus before popping flat, especially when new.

If the MD2's don't work out throw a Comet or Buzzz SS in the bag both fly the same lines in the same ranges fairly similarly to me the buzzz of course being a notch faster, so its really whatever rim you prefer when it comes to those two.

himynameismatt wrote:If the MD2's don't work out throw a Comet or Buzzz SS

I forget, what plastics does the Buzz ss come in?

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