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Enodoc

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Welcome to my Message Board. Please feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions concerning the wiki or the Fable series. If you leave a message here, you may want to follow this page, as I'm likely to respond to it here as well in order to keep the conversation in one place.

Ah yeah sorry, compared to many of the other images in the category, these are at the bottom of the priority list due to not currently having bad names, so I wasn't thinking about it. I moved the Demon Door one to File:Grey House Demon Door.jpg since it's shorter, but I see no benefit to moving Dirty Harriet since there is no other Dirty Harriet.

Ack, I forgot (again) that movefile is not a permission that all users have. Unfortunately I can't add that permission by itself, and you haven't yet been here long enough to be eligible for the other rights that would come alongside it.

In that case, what I would suggest instead, is if maybe you could just give me a list of images that need to be moved, and what they need to be moved to, and I should be able to run a bot through that list.

Like this:

[[frompage]]
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For example, taking this image that WikiaWizard tagged for moving before, that one would be:

This is true. A lot of Fable II images are photos of people's TV screens, and if there's any way we can replace those, that would be great. I should also pay more attention to Special:UnusedImages; some of them can be used, some of them are duplicates, and some are pointless, so it would probably be a good idea if I went through that sometime.

Also it appears that I missed a bunch of images being uploaded a couple of months ago, so I need to find those too and make sure they're added to the Categorization Project.

Which solution did you prefer out of the three that were there? Of course another alternative would be to not include the LCE box art in the infobox at all, and to put it in the LCE section, which would probably make more sense. --Enodoc(Talk) (User Space) 12:48, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Enodoc wrote:Which solution did you prefer out of the three that were there? Of course another alternative would be to not include the LCE box art in the infobox at all, and to put it in the LCE section, which would probably make more sense. --Enodoc(Talk) (User Space) 12:48, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I got the email saying you changed the Hero of Bower Lake back to the Hero of Bowerstone. I will once again point out that not once during the game is the hero referred to as the Hero of Bowerstone. And it is just a name given by the fans. I understand that it should be included, however, as the real name of the hero is the Hero of Bower Lake as it was given to him by the creators of Fable it should be the main name. Wiki is for informing people and the Wiki is currently giving the wrong information. Everyone I ask says the hero of Bowerstone, and I have to keep reminding them that they are wrong. That is why I changed it. Most people will not want to change it because they have always seen the hero as the Hero of Bowerstone. The wiki is needed to inform the people of the right stuff, not the stuff they want to know.

Hello! I'm Wowa, and I'm representing Fandom's Vanguard team. We're users who volunteer to help communities adopt to new technologies and features, like content portability. We've identified your community as a high priority for introducing the Portable Infobox tool, which has a lot of benefits for your community. Rather than get into all of the metrics and numbers (though I can present some of those if you're interested), I'll keep it simple. I'd like upgrade the Infobox templates themselves so that they can be accessible on any current and future platform. Maintaining them if you want to make changes should be very simple.

I've added drafts for all of your current infoboxes which you can modify or approve early if you'd like. I've put the styling here. Here's a full list of all the drafts:

I am actually currently vehemently opposed to the concept of portable infoboxes due to their use of what appears to be a Wikia-specific XML tag over the universally valid wiki table markup. Wiki markup is always preferred over HTML/XML elements where an equivalent wiki markup exists. Besides, anyone who is trying to learn the ins and outs of wiki markup would find these completely useless outside of Wikia wikis.

But it's not up to me. Such a change would require community consensus before being implemented.

Hi,
I understand why you do not like Wikia-specific XML code, but portable infoboxes do things on mobile devices that aren't possible with traditional WikiText markup. In my opinion, portable infoboxes bring better benefits than they cause inconveniences.

Hi all. Although it's very nice to hear that this wiki community as "a high priority for introducing the Portable Infobox tool" I'd like to ask why this is the case? This wiki has been going through a quiet period for a while now and since the closure of Lionhead it has been even more sparse.

I do like the idea of having portable templates (I attended one of the recent Town Halls on it I think) but I think it does remove a lot of the learning opportunities that the current codes provide. I am still learning them myself in fact.

I am saying this is a good move as there does seem to be a lot of advantages to this but only as long as the current markup table markup can be preserved somewhere.

@Enodoc do you happen to know how many visitors we get to the wiki and how many of those are on mobile devices? That'd be great to help determine whether we really need this at this present time.

Hi WikiaWizard,
the priority calculation process is mostly determined by the visits of pages without non-portable infoboxes. This means that communities with relatively many page views and very few portable infoboxes have a high chance to be identified as a community with high priority.

The current templates can be copied anywhere you want, I can make a backup myself if you insist. They naturally will be included in the page history, but I can present them in a more accessible way.

I agree with Enodoc about us not using Wiki explicit code just for the sake of portability. If it ever becomes clear that tablet and mobile users are having problems, then we could revisit the issue, but at this time I feel we should stick with what we have.

So as I was making my way through sorting the images on the Wiki I've encountered quite a few "unused" images. Many of these are images of varying content and quality which only appear on the Fable Series Gallery page.

I was wondering if you had any ideas as to what to do with them and how best to categorise these, if at all? I'm kinda at a lost on where to put them haha

Well I wasn't really sure what it was for but it has been here since I started so I haven't really questioned it haha

That is an interesting idea. However there are a lot of images and some are of rather good quality. Hence why I haven't suggested the deletion of many of them even as they've popped up during my editing.

Is there a list where we can find out all the images which appear on the article? I tried using "What links here" but it doesn't work.

Well the gallery itself really is the list of what's there. Obviously they're all listed when you go to edit the page as well, but if it helps we could probably set up a secondary page that just lists the files as File:Ss-xbox-fable.jpg etc.

Oh of course! That was silly of me. I don't think we need to make a secondary page for it as it'll be unnecessary work and, as you've said, they're all listed on the page.

So I think what we can do is just go through the images on the page to sort out which ones we want to keep and categorise, and which ones we want to clear and delete.

I'll start working on that soon. As a suggestion however, if you think that the gallery isn't all that useful I could just images from the page as I progress with it and then we can delete it or re-purpose it once the work is complete?

Yeah that sounds good. There's a bunch of good images there that would be better off on individual pages. If any are left over, we could probably find somewhere else for them. The gallery isn't even linked from anywhere else anyway.

Great. I'm working on it now. I'm not sure if it is mentioned anywhere but where would the Gallery sub-heading go on an article page? I usually put it at the end but above the References section if there is one. Is this the correct place?

Awesome. I'm still working my way through the page (not totally sure how many images there are in total) sorting and clearing the page when I've done.

I did come across a lot of images from a now inactive user called User:Zwoooooosh. A great many of the images they have uploaded are also on their User Page.

It just so happens that they were playing a male hero in Fable III but they had some of the female clothing sets. I have been categorising them but I was wondering what we should do with these pictures? I think they're high quality such as File:Zw-Highlander Women's Suit.png but I haven't added them to the article yet.

What do you think we should do with these? Should we just categorise them and leave it or add them to their respective pages?