> >From: "Alexandre"
> >Subject: [e] Two cents
> >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:36:49 -0200
> >On the issue, I have a problem with the archetypes too, IMO, the tend to
> >bring to munch things together at the same time and make a mess in the
> >meaning, anyway , this is a very interesting text, that goes to the core of
> >this discussion.

Alexandre, if they make a mess of the meaning for you, might I suggest that
the problem is not in the concept of archetypes but in your current
understanding of the meaning of the concept. For instance, if you derived
your current understanding from what you have read in the astromedia, it
would be no surprise to me if the concept seemed obscure or even empty of
substance. Most of those people don't know what they are talking about.

I learnt the meaning of the word `archetype' as a teenager in the '60s, when
Jung's name was almost unknown in our country. Back then his theories had
yet to enter the culture (which didn't happen till the '80s). So the
meaning of the term has always been clear in my mind, distinct from the spin
put on it by Jung and his adherents. Jungians seem to be mostly unaware of
the original meaning. I recall one new-age woman astrologer (a friend,
actually!) trying to get away with telling me in front of other astrologers
that there was no other meaning apart from the one Jungians share. I was
unable to conjure up a few ancient Greeks to enlighten her. Too bad.
Ignorance marginalises people behind boundaries of the mind (Saturn).

> >The path to immortality is hard, and only a few find it.
> >The rest must return again, unconscious and unknowing,
> >to the seed-ground and await a new beginning.

Interestingly, Robert Monroe's amazing adventures out-of-the-body informed
him that reincarnation is merely optional. This made more sense to me. My
cultural bias is scepticism toward all ancient traditions. The Tibetan view
may have some merit but, for instance, the notion that karmic consequences
of harm committed by choice include reincarnation as an insect is not shared
by other reincarnation traditions. I gather that either or both Buddhists &
Hindus believe this. I was never able to!!

Heh. One could get lost there & never return, eh? I copied the following
passage, of relevance to our discussions (but the hot links within it failed
to copy)...

"Some experiments show connections between
the brain states and resonant electromagnetic waves,
raising the possibility that the Human Brain
has evolved to be "in tune" with Planet Earth."

Furthermore, here
http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/QuanCon.html#cycles
I found this speculation:
"the Mind might be able to influence Fate by selecting which of the
Many-Worlds in the AllSpaces will experience in the Future.
In this connection, it is interesting to note that The Human Mind seems to
be in tune with the Schumann Resonances of the Earth."