If Perak falls into BN’s lap, it would be the Sultan’s doing…

We are still on the topic of frogs, defections, hopping and what nots.

PERAK is at the brink of collapse, into the den between BN’s thighs. That would be a better title for news, right?

Because does anyone know for sure now what will happen?

Since whether it does fall or not depends very much on the Ruler of the state, the Sultan.

Although both BN and Pakatan has met the Sultan, he is yet to say a word.

What does that mean?

If the Sultan agrees to allow BN to wrest power from Pakatan, does it mean he support BN or the Constitution?

Hahaha. I am confused. Only months ago before September 16, the spotlight was on Anwar Ibrahim, who wanted to seize Putrajaya.

His detractors called him all sort of names. Anwar said a lot of things, that is being said now by his detractors, such as “no money involved’ (Najib).

Who would believe? No one. That’s right.

No matter how the two PKR (now BN) state assembly persons deny that they were never being kidnapped, no one believes.

This situation is not really good for BN, neither it is for Najib.

Contempt for the government increases many folds as many would think that BN has seized this state illegally.

So lets see what the Sultan does.

If he is in Najib’s camp, he would allow BN to accede to power?

If he supports Pakatan, he will allow the dissolution of the state assembly.

In any case, I pity the people of Perak. It seems you are not the one to decide your own government. They call this democracy.

Ps. I got this in an email:

if the sultan perak does nothing about the power grab by bn, the sultan will be doing something, he will be sokong the devious najib/umno way of doing things. the sultan has to put a stop to the najib/umno hijacking of the state government, otherwise the reputation of the sultan and royalty in general will be destroyed. the najib/umno trickery in perak must be defeated, the people of perak deserve the government they elected march 08 2008. the people of perak most certainly don’t deserve a government that came to power through devious means. the people of perak also deserve to know exactly what was done by the various people concerned as well as why and how it was done. safeguards should be put in place to prevent a repeat. if threats were made to pressure adun-adun to jump ship, those threats should be investigated as criminal intimidation.

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Najib is a great magician! He can make ADUNs disappear and then appear in Putrajaya by his side! And Ipoh has a new cuizine ‘Four legged Frogs’ guaranteed to destroyed your own kind! see more in http://www.jonathan66-my.blogspot.com
PR was destroyed by a double whammy, PR members and BN. Three frogs and a lady frog whose rocket misfired resulted in PK destroyed by ‘friendly fire’ I mean ‘friendly independents.

Enough of all this shit. Instead of keeping malaysia afloat ( our economy ), we are witnessing “circus-go-around”. Never changing attitude! Stupid, don’t you think so. If no money is involve at all, it is a laugh. I don’t know how else to describe it. The worst thing is, it is Rakyat’s money, yours and mine.

It’s best to return to the people of Perak to decide on which party they would give a fresh mandate.

All the ‘trickery’ by both sides is undermining the confidence of the people in their elected representatives. As HRH The Sultan of Perak is supposed to be non-partisan, and I believe that he is, there is a great likelihood that he would allow the dissolution of the Perak State Assembly, and return to his subjects the democratic right to choose the govt.

I thought only the ADUN who has the support of the majority of the assembly can seek the Sultan’s approval to form a new state govt. In what capacity is Najib to see the Sultan ah? Is he also now the new MB in-waiting for Perak?

Do not bring Sultan into this. He is a non-partisan entity and is acting to the best interest of the rakyat. And remember He picked Pakatan Rakyat goverment after 2008 election. And Pakatan Rakyat has failed to keep their house in order. Pakatan Rakyat has lost the game the game originally set-up by Pakatan rakyat. There is no “sokong” this and “sokong” that here on part Sultan. Daulat Tuanku.

Sorry, you got it wrong. Whoever got the majority support in the dewan, the constitutions clearly state it is legal to take over the govt. When the Bota assemblyman shifted to PR, you supported it without any complaint. In fact Nizar said it was a cleaver act to do. But now when PR YB shift to BN, why all the fuss are being rised? WAKE UP!!!. Who are you to say majority of Perak folks supported PR? Take a mirror.

The final outcome from this very important decision from the Sultan, will determine the future role of the Royalties. I hope, they have not forgotten, they are there because the people still give them the respect. Politicians come and go, the royal subjects stay. Is is obvious, the electorates of Perak have shown the desire for a fresh elections because of the uncertainties which ever party form the new govt. Will His Highness grant them their wish or join the circus?
A bad decision will have grave consequences, not only to UMNO but, to the Royalties as well.

Anyway, did we ever have any say? Ever? Once every few years perhaps, that too comes with threats. Tell me, what do you call this if not democracy?

I truly pity the Perakians but the fate of Malaysians isn’t much better than them Perakians. We’re always roped into politicians’ puppet shows. They speak for us, act on our behalf, and author our future.

We rakyat are so sick of this BN shit. Najis is damn rotten and he knows it. Only way he can win is to use his $$$$ ill gotten gains from the submarines, and what not that he share with his coward friend,Baginda Razak. With millions of $$$ he can just buy them over and the worst shits are this 2 jokers and 1 ugly bitch. They let all of us down and bloody shit they shall get in return.

Of course everyone remembered that Tuanku picked Pakatan Rakyat after March 2008 election..why, because Pakatan Rakyat got the freaking majority, bodoh! What we see today is nothing more than just a desperate attempt by Najib and his goons to rob the rakyat of their voting rights and to cling on power…

You are only correct in the first half of the constitution.
Why don’t you mention the second half. Like all UMNO motherf##kers, you are only good at half truth. If you do not know, you are then, not qualified to quote the Perak State constitution!

Talhah,
PR was never given a chance to properly and peacefully administer the state. The Umno goons did everything to upset the PR state govt.
And dont forget the Rakyat DIDNT vote for the candidate. They voted for the Party…PKR and PR and NOT for the stupid ,selfish,Liars…cheaters ex-PR assembly. Initially they LIED…….
As for Najib, your sins are too much for you….U will rot in HELL!!!with all your supporters….

While some politicians play their games like ‘ghosts’
The ordinary folks are the people who suffer the most
Does it matter now which party is playing the ‘host’
When ultimately everybody needs to consider the cost

We must all look at this setback for PR positively and creatively. Do not lose hope for Malaysia because God has a greater plan beyond the obvious cat and mouse game.

Look at the irony of the situation: The unethical cross over planned by Anwar failed last September. However, God may allow the devious cross-over and reverse takeover of the Perak state government by BN for one very good reason: the whole population of Perak and the country will start to see how unethical and undemocratic is the BN in trying to gain power.

Let them have win the war of cross-overs but they will definitely lose the battle for the hearts and minds of the voters.

Yeah Aj,
The way the ‘robbed’ Perak is very disgrace. One thing for sure, there will be no stability under dacing and create more termoil. Sultan..please consider us..we have vote for our leader and this shiny head najib simply take a way from us.

Let the people decide again by way of reelection for the Perak assembly.

by doing so, many of the unfolded truth in the saga of tainted BN taking over Perak with tainted assemblymen would be brought to the court of the people”BALLOT BOXES”.

iF IT IS TRUE THAT HIS HIGHNESS THE SULTAN IS INVOLVED THEN THE QUESTION OF HE GOING OVERBOARD THE STATE CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE VERFIED.As I know from the simple law classes that he has always to remain above politics.

At one time, BN was so afraid and apprehensive that PR was going to take over the Federal Gopvernment by enticing BN MPs to cross over or hop over to its side.

The rakyat know that BN wsa sore for being so badly thrashed at the General Election in March 2008. I for one would not believe that BN would just sit tight and do nothing to let PR run the State.

For the past seven months or so, the sycophants in BN have been doing their utmost and eveil best to blemish the Opposition at the slightest mistake in an effort to distract the public from its past stinking deeds.

At the same time while trying to tell the whole world that party-hopping was undesirable and unethical in a democracy, it did not say a word nor wink an eye when majority of the PBS elected members crossed or hopped over to BN; thereby unfairly wrested control of the Sabah Government. There is no ethics in my view when it comes to seizing political power from the opposition party. A lot of money is at stake.

In Perak, I blamed PKR for its failure to admit members who are corrupt, greedy and power-crazy. I bet the two
members who are quiting the PR must have been mesmerised by the Juta-juta Ringgit dangling before them. They just succumbed to the bait unfortunately

Being a Perakian, I am ashamed that such despicable happening came to pass. I would like to see the battle-royale to be fought by BN and PR once more time at a fairly contested election. To be fair to all concerned, the State Assembly shall be desolved. A fresh election must be called to decide one way or the other.

Parakians you must exercise your rights to determine who you want to rule Parak – BN or PR. Don’t let your rights be trampled opon by dirty money politics and dirty politicians.

Please be known the party/coalition that holds majority not necessarily will be automatically be entitled to form a government. The precedent is -“the stability ” of the government ie. In case of Perak 2008 BN also submitted their application to form Perak Government stating that PKR coaliation is a lose one and can create instability to the State. Please bear in mind if the Sultan sided with BN He is freely pick BN as the government even BN is not being in majority provided He has the full confidence that BN can bring stability to the Perak Government as oppose to PKR. Nevertheless if He picked BN in 2008 it will trigger another fresh election in Perak in 2008 as BN must seek a fresh mandate. Being a fair ruler and being a person of such stature and thinking to best interest of rakyat He picked PKR. Daulat Tuanku.

Dear fellow malaysian,
the situation here is pretty grim, it is a true sample of how our DUN candidates behave.

Pakatan must learn not to add those “lalang” or the one who only thinks of themselves and not for the ppls that they represents in the next general election.

for the Sultan, its his choice. I have no objection on what our ruler will say about this as he is the state ruler.

What ever the Sultan say, everyone must accept. IF BN wins, they does not win it fully. there are 28 opposition in the State DUN, if BN did not do anything good for the ppl of Perak, regardless of race, Feel free to accept defeat next general election.

for the YB Nizar, its Malaysian Politics. everything can change in a minute.

if the Sultan gives another chance to vote, Perak voters Please come home to vote your own choice. we need to sweep off the corrupted, “lalang” and those unwanted ADUN for the sake of the ppls.

Dear Susan,
Please have some respect to the Sultan of Perak, will you? I have faith in the Sultan’s strong wisdom, that he will make a wise and good judgment according to the constitution. Why blame him? If Perak falls it is because of Anwar’s arrogant and his ambitious Sept 16 plan. And of course due to those clowns in Perak as well.

It was just less than 2 weeks ago that Anwar and the whole Pakatan leaders were chest thumping about the entry of Bota UMNO Adun, Dato’ Nasaruddin into PKR and look what happened now??

The sultan of perak and his son, Nazrin have been talking abt fairness and blh-blh-blh. But when come to defending the right of people, which is their priority…. they seem to turn the other way. Perrrhaps their biz will be afeected if not supportiiing umno.

IF I were the sultan, I would grant my consent to fresh state election. BECAUSE I WANT TO BE NEUTRAL. Unfortunately for you people, I m not sultan, m a nobody. Sorry I can’t help you BUT I will say a prayer for fresh polls to materialise.

simple PR. get 500,000 to stand in front of the royal highness. all we want is for people to decide in a by-election and we accept the results.
Goodness, dont let the whisper that the richest lady is from Perak to soil the name of the royalty. I respect you, your Royal Highness Azlan and Nazrin, always.

If the Sultan thinks it is politics..then he will not interfere.
But if the Sultan thinks few politicians have made suckers out of his subjects….voting them in….and the these elected people doing things…for themselves….for personal benefits..not at all approved by the voters…then he may defend the helpless Perak subjects..by declaring a State election.
Hee from DAP..is the lowest scum of the earth …I have ever seen ….beside Lee Lam Thye..in the Chinese community..and in politics…involving DAP.
So many have said it all.
Let that prostitute search her conscience.

the initial BN guy crossing over to PR was just “wayang kulit”. It is now reported that he is back to BN’s fold. I think the whole reason for him crossing over was a set up so that Najib/BN will say that PR started the whole crossing over game.

It was a well played thing right from the start.

End of the day, all politicians are crooked and not to be trusted be it BN or PR.

What we need in the government is check and balance so that the party governing us do not have absolute power.

all this would not have happened if an “anti-hopping law” is being enacted so that non can be bought over…ending with the rakyat’s money not be used for corruption.

The fact that when PR formed the state govt they make an akujanji with the sultan, and they must abide by the akujanji. They also signed an undated quit letter to resign if they crossed over to support the opposition. The DAP mama also made a statement that she is not resigning from the DAP as seen in the TV a day earlier.
In view of the above and also to a lot of question marks on the reason for the cross-over, I am of the opinion that the right of the wakil rakyat is not important. It is the right of the voters that is important. So to be fair to the voters, it is better that a fresh state election be made.
I am sure the sultan, being an experienced and wise judge before, can make a just decision. So leave it to the sultan.

Please never trust The Sultans (any Sultans), including Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Dr. Nazrin. From the records, their assertions in State matters are beyond their powers to intrude such as -the demand of a Malay over a Chinese Menteri Besar where DAP has the most State seats (though race is not a problem to me but Her Majesty’s outright intervention).

From the speeches of The Perak Sultan and son which is ever inspiring for example – the Monarchy oversee the State affairs with impartiality is a total inversion of their true conduct.

Malasyia should do away with the Monarchy system which leeches us “dry-n-clean” (living on taxpayers money) and go for a republic – like Singapore.

Whatever Najis has offered the ADUNs, he will probably offer ten times….or a blank cheque will be given to the most important cause of ensuring the decision to set a Bee ann government in Perak ie safe face, retaliate & humiliate DSAI, tit for tat withe cross over issue!!!!

I now believe DSAI has failed tremendously as he had under estimated the power of money controlled by the Najis family…..Yayasan Tun Razak; CIMB blah blah blah!!!! He should have gone to the Arabs for money & doubled the offer to counter such attempts. He is accountable for the choice of such irresposible FROGS!!

I am dissappointed in him….& he needs to come up with a brilliant counter measure immediately!! For a well read, having knowledge of what the umno goons can & are capable of doing, his priorities have been wrongly set. BUT surely he is aware of sun tzu’s “ART OF WAR” ….KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!! I believe Najis has memorized it as a defence minister.

Good luck to PR! Another factor may be the in fighting in PR, things like hudud, positions awarded to friends overlooking merit in many.

Nasi sudah jadi bubur!!! The Sultan is bound to respect the Federal Government’s wishes….the benefits will be ten fold if he does so!!!! So PR can continue to squabble over their greed etc. The Kedah MB is another arrogant man who is in his own delussions & believes that PAS is superior and does not need any support from the non malays. His arrogance may lead to the downfal, yet of another PR government.

The Perak Sultan is indeed the heart of the Perak state people. He doesn’t have any motive to canvass the people in order to stay in power as the Sultan of Perak, therefore giving him full freedom to decide without any fear or favour. Whatever the Sultan decides, I thin the people should take it positively and move on.

As for the PR and BN guys, I think they know by now that defection is not a magical word. It spells disaster to all parties.

Let’s put our faith forward and hope that all will turn out o be good.

I wonder, whether this Foochew wh#re realizes that her despicable act will reduce the Chinese representation in Perak State, to just two assemblymen and zero for Indian? Perak, practically, becomes an all UMNO affair…with a 50% Chinese population. Will the Sultan allows this unequal representation rule?

Be Practical please. The woman did not betray her own race. She betrayed everybody who believed in her, those who gave her the ticket to prove herself, all respectable women, her hopeful polio buddies, all disabled friends, her DAP comrades, her supporters, etc. She let everybody down with her treachery and deceit. She just confirmed her one way ticket to hell why standing, I mean sitting, next to Najib!!! Joining the party of liars who give remarks ‘to stand up and fight’ when a person is seating in a wheel chair, the party of liars that call her race ‘pendatang’. She makes me wanna puke !!!!!!!!!!

She is also a ugly whore. If I did not know the lady in the picture was Hee herself, I would have thought “What a nice man this Najib. Having the tealady or cleaner in the snapshot.” Uugh, I am going to puke!!!!!!!

HRH Tuanku was one of the best CJ we have ever had. He brought honour and dignity to judiciary. Now once again he has been entrusted a responsibility, a responsibility that will ensure the welfare and rights of the whole Perakians. The only way he could make it right is by giving the rights back to rakyat to choose their leaders and government.
Hope he does the right thing, may god bestows him with wisdom.

Why is it if BN have people jump to their side and seize power, theyre doing by illegal means but if anwar use similiar tactic to get him to putrajaya, its okay? I think the hypocrites are tasting their own medicine. Wheres the makan sathi and the “kingmakers”?. Michael corleone has spoken, Sum people dont talk cock like anwar, they just go ahead and do it. ha ha ha

All is not lost yet as Perak only has a hung assembly which means status quo remains. It is now up to HRH to decide whether the status quo remains or otherwise.

And if HRH decides status quo remains, HRH must accede to MB Nizar’s request for dissolution of the assembly as is required by normal parliamentary convention.

I do not envy his responsibility since whatever decision he makes will have objections. In light of this, if HRH can’t please everyone then please the people who matters most to HRH, his loyal subjects!

Since you’ve taken time to reply to my outburst ;-), I shall now do likewise.

And after considering every aspects of your points, I have the following to say;

1) Since when a government chosen by democratic means holding even a simple majority is deemed to have lost its entitlement to govern by reason of instability. Who decides a government to be instable? Under who’s advise Tuanku would take into consideration to pass his fair judgement? Would it be an advise of the Rakyat who’s spoken via ballot results or would it be an advise of an interested party or to be exact, the losing party? 😉

2) Next, how could one decide that the PR coalition is a loose coalition when various events had taken place and announcements had been made preceding GE12 that DAP/PAS/PKR would go into GE12 contesting under one banner and declaring BN as a sole and common opponent?

3) Furthermore, the whole PR institution has not commenced governing in the first place after winning the State. How could Tuanku quick in making judgement that PR government was an accident waiting to happen? The old cliche “not tried and not tested”? By perception? Who’s perception was that? Who’s perception count?

Considering all, but not limited to the above, how would Tuanku draw the line then? By democratic means, surely..and, you and I know that the power to choose has always been with the Rakyat..

And if Tuanku really needed any past precedent to decide stability or otherwise, he would not have to go that far back than 2004 when Kelantan governed the state by majority of 1 ADUN for the whole term. And mind you, it was under another form of coalition ie. Barisan Alternatif with several Keadilan seats. And why BN never bandied about instability then? Why now? Why Perak?

I did not consult any experts with Constitutional knowledge. I only consulted my conscience. Rightly or wrongly, I only know one thing. And that one thing is Umno has in their banditry ways robbed all of us of our rights, wealth and welfare. If any of you guys still think that this is acceptable, God help us all…

Let the people decide. Call a snap election and settle this once and for all. With such a slim majority this kind of uncertainty will never end. Please voice your opinion as loud as you can. I am sure the Sultan of Perak will understand this after all.

I feel like the people of Perak have been cheated. Few people voted for a party unless that person is very high profile or well known. I have never heard of those PKRs and that DAP representatives that defected until now. I would have voted a Pakatan member even if they place a cat as their representative.

I am also calling for tose young man and women who has turned 21 to register to vote ASAP. You can do that at any Post Offices or representative offices of any political parties. Do it now before it’s too late. This is your God given right to have you say, in case they too take that away from you.

This is a very sad day for me to see this happening in my Home State.

For those woring in KL or outside Perak, be prepared to take leave should a snap ellection is called. You must teach those BN a lesson.

BTW, I am very happy to say that current MB and his team is doing a wonderful job. If only you can find people like that in BN.

Finally, should a snap election is called, please finished off that remaining MCA representative in Perak. No more MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP etc representatives in Perak. These parties are weak. no back bones, gutless and can’t be trusted.

So much to correct UMNO’s evil deeds which Khairy also contributed..yet he is now talking about getting rid of Sultans and Malaysia becoming a Republic.
He is years ahead of time….with his logical proposal..yet years behind time…playing race and religion politics…in UMNO.

The very fact that Tajol Rosli stepped down is only a prelude to this unfolding drama in Perak.

It is purely to save face and safeguard Najib’s battered image after the debacle in Permatang Pauh & Kuala Trengganu by-elections.

It, according to the Najib camp views, must be done at all cost…hehehehe…now you all know why basing on the following happenings:-
a) could all three ADUNs be “missing-in-action” and not traceable at the same time?
b)could all three ADUN appeared at the same time at Najib’s press conference?
c)could all three feel the same way over their displeasure on Pakatan Rakyat at the same time?
d) could Nasaruddin be coincentally at the same Najib press conference as the other three ADUNs and expressing the same lingo about their perception of Pakatan Rakyat?
e) could this, that, those, these…etc be so nicely falling into their respective places….call it fittingly matched?

You and I, an all logical Malaysians would know the answer….ask Najib.

The Sultan of Perak should be able to decipher this, that, those, these and the lot to drop the bomb shell on Najib who incidentally also played his cards by first calling in his press conference that BN has the majority with these four kataks. Fire the first salvo to steal the show and put pressure on the sultan.

What do we have? A bunch of politicians who behave like Paladin, with exception, they are not hire guns with badges of honour; just soldiers of fortune to the highest bidder. Geez….seems like one commentator i read is right…in Malaysia there is no need for election just money will walk. I like to dedicate this song to them.

Have (Money) Will Travel reads the card of a (politician).
A knight without (honor) in a savage land.

His fast (post) for hire heeds the calling wind.
A soldier of fortune is the man/woman called (Adun).

He travels on to wherever he must
A (few pieces of silver) is his badge of (greed.)

Good luck to the future. Shame on those who promoted this culture…both BN and Pakatan politicians. Now you can see…nothing can justify this despicable action. They will turn either way to the calling wind.

The more I ponder over it just now, the more I felt that most Malaysian politicians are no better than prostitutes who would sell their “bodies” (ie their elected positions as ADUNs or MPs) for whatever use their masters would dictate upon their “bodies”.

Do you know why so many people frown upon and reject prostitution. It is the highest order against one’s integrity to sell your own “body”. Not even God can forgive these people for selling and horse-trading off this gift from Him.

Being labeled as one, a prostitute would remain a prostitute; no matter how much she (including “he” here in this Perak saga) does to cleanse herself (including “himself” here), she ( and “he”) will remain as one. These are even worse than soldiers of fortune.

“No backbone” in the context of the Chinese proverb aptly depicts these 4 ADUNs’ character and support by Najib for these 4 ADUNs speaks much of Najib’s “integrity”; more so when 2 ADUNs are now facing court cases themselves.

It has to be the court case threats by the people in power that did the hoodoo; otherwise how could so many coincidences happen like a domino effect; felling one after another. Desperado or desperate-doers? Your guess is as good as mine.

Those wanting to be rich might as well not follow this path of katak hopping. Just follow me, in my footsteps to earn a decent living which can also lead you to financial freedom. Visit my business blogs where I can actually teach you how to earn money the right way, the meaningful way and the moral way; though it may take you longer than these ADUNs.

HRH neutrality will be greatly tested. This will be the last
pillar that the rakyat put their whole faith in. HRH was a C/J, a wise man, will he has the wisdom of King Solomon or
will he turn a UMNO lapdog. His decision will champion the neutrality of the rajas or forever, destroy the position of rajas? Malaysia will enter a new era of “BAO LIAO!”
I don’t envy his dilemma position but, I expect him to do what is right. A brave man will not run from a difficult decision he has to make…and, let history be the judge.

The more I ponder over it just now, the more I felt that most Malaysian politicians are no better than prostitutes who would sell their “bodies” (ie their elected positions as ADUNs or MPs) for whatever use their masters would dictate upon their “bodies”.

Do you know why so many people frown upon and reject prostitution. It is the highest order against one’s integrity to sell your own “body”. Not even God can forgive these people for selling and horse-trading off this gift from Him.

Being labeled as one, a prostitute would remain a prostitute; no matter how much she (including “he” here in this Perak saga) does to cleanse herself (including “himself” here), she ( and “he”) will remain as one. These are even worse than soldiers of fortune.

“No backbone” in the context of the Chinese proverb aptly depicts these 4 ADUNs’ character and support by Najib for these 4 ADUNs speaks much of Najib’s “integrity”; more so when 2 ADUNs are now facing court cases themselves.

It has to be the court case threats by the people in power that did the hoodoo; otherwise how could so many coincidences happen like a domino effect; felling one after another. Desperado or desperate-doers? Your guess is as good as mine.

Those wanting to be rich might as well not follow this path of katak hopping. Just follow me, in my footsteps to earn a decent living which can also lead you to financial freedom. Visit my business blogs where I can actually teach you how to earn money the right way, the meaningful way and the moral way; though it may take you longer than these ADUNs.

While some politicians play their games like ‘ghosts’
The ordinary folks are the people who suffer the most
Does it matter now which party is playing the ‘host’
When ultimately everybody needs to consider the cost

(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 040209 ///

Samuel – you like to pollute all the blogs with your sometime very contrived “verses”.

Make up your mind – do you want the lines to rhyme?
Or do you want them to end with similar letters?

Since you’ve taken time to reply to my outburst ;-), I shall now do likewise.

And after considering every aspects of your points, I have the following to say;

1) Since when a government chosen by democratic means holding even a simple majority is deemed to have lost its entitlement to govern by reason of instability. Who decides a government to be instable? Under who’s advise Tuanku would take into consideration to pass his fair judgement? Would it be an advise of the Rakyat who’s spoken via ballot results or would it be an advise of an interested party or to be exact, the losing party? 😉

2) Next, how could one decide that the PR coalition is a loose coalition when various events had taken place and announcements had been made preceding GE12 that DAP/PAS/PKR would go into GE12 contesting under one banner and declaring BN as a sole and common opponent?

3) Furthermore, the whole PR institution has not commenced governing in the first place after winning the State. How could Tuanku quick in making judgement that PR government was an accident waiting to happen? The old cliche “not tried and not tested”? By perception? Who’s perception was that? Who’s perception count?

Considering all, but not limited to the above, how would Tuanku draw the line then? By democratic means, surely..and, you and I know that the power to choose has always been with the Rakyat..

And if Tuanku really needed any past precedent to decide stability or otherwise, he would not have to go that far back than 2004 when Kelantan governed the state by majority of 1 ADUN for the whole term. And mind you, it was under another form of coalition ie. Barisan Alternatif with several Keadilan seats. And why BN never bandied about instability then? Why now? Why Perak?

I did not consult any experts with Constitutional knowledge. I only consulted my conscience. Rightly or wrongly, I only know one thing. And that one thing is Umno has in their banditry ways robbed all of us of our rights, wealth and welfare. And if any of us still think that this is acceptable, I dont have anything more to say…

It’s all about – “a game” isn’t it? Najib/UMNO 1st planted one of it’s ADUN’s crossover to Pakatan Rakyat without protesting where the real “sandiwara” has long began – to buy over some of the PR ADUNs.

When the deal with the Pakatan Rakyat’s Aduns’ are inked – in a contrivance that they (the PR Aduns) are made Independents and leaning and supporting BN, the one who FALSELY defect to Pakatan Rakyat exhihit the real game – that he was all the way a “plant”.

Sorry to tell the truth – Anwar Ibrahim is defeated by his own game. Najib pretended to legalized crossover when Anwar seems to be edging where in reality Najib has the upperhand.

The masquerade is very trenchant, isn’t it? One thing that we must not underestimate – who is really behind this state-of-the-art game? Mahathir Mohamad even cautioned BN that if the 2 defectors from Pakatan Rakyat are found not guilty of a corruption scandal, then BN’s image would be marred (alluding that both’s Aduns left PR and support BN in exchange for an exoneration in their graft case).

When AAB was cleverly ousted by Najib when the former promised to handover the power to him in 2010, he(Najib) didn’t have to do show it to AAB – his gangs -Rafidah Aziz, Muhyiddin Yassin, Rais Yatim, Shafie Apdal (the UMNO warlords did the dirty jobs for him). And of course -Mahathir Mohamad was the one behind it. I saw the highlights on TV when all Najib, Muhyiddin Yassin were present at an invitation at a dinner – similing. You don’t have to know or hear what they are saying to get the point, yeah? hmmm, I am wondering of that as well……

Reflected in my 1st post in this very thread – I mentioned that the Sultans to the likes of The Perak Sultan and his son – Raja Muda Nazrin cannot be trusted.

Malaysiakini reports that the Sultan Of Perak call for a unity Government led by BN.

Once again, you can see if there is any results from the past petitions we signatured and handed over to Her Majesty…. by using layman dialectics – you can clearly see no one is drafting any sorts of petitions to any Sultans or Her Majesty. Yeah!

WHAT GOES AROUND WILL ALWAYS COME BACK AROUND…
dont bother waste our energy analysing the `cheap drama`…BN or PKR same sajer…the best thing for rakyat to do is ignore them all and do nothing. Start with ignoring the call for rakyat to gather tonight…put a stop to “rakyat manipulation” whenever it suit their interest!

p/s before some of you even think about blaming the Sultan for his decision to be…go stay in front of the mirror with your political idol…

Feels real good to have u back Susan.
I would say this is the most immoral way in the world, planets, moons, stars etc….to wrest power from the rakyat. Only an evil person like Mr.C4 can do it.
For the 3 frogs, their actions are most despicable. One thing is obvious GREED and $$$$$ till the end for these 3 unethical bums. And it is amazing that a handicap can even jump. WoW!!!!! Anyway, only in Bolehland.
I am apprehensive that the Sultan will call for a fresh elections. The reasons are obvious for you and me. A lot especailly $$$$$$$$ is at stake. God helps the Perakians.
However, I am sure the rakyat as a whole can wait even it is 3 years or more for the next GE. In time they will throw these bums in BN out into the garbage trucks. And that 3 greedy and unethical traitors will be smeared with shits and paraded thru the streets.
Long live PKR!!!

I see that many blog commentators have vented their anger on the ex-DAP assembly lady. To paraphrase an old but true saying: when we forgive someone, we are pouring water on the hot coals burning over their heads.

The power to change Malaysia’s despicable politics lies in forgiving our enemies. Likewise, those who curse Ms Hee fall into the same trap of hate and bitterness that divides our nation. Change begins in our hearts no matter what colour, political party or faith

As a RAKYAT of Perak. I deeply feel the way to form a new Govt should go back to basic. Let’s all the Perak people to choose again. Also is a fair competitive base between BN and Pakatan Rakyat after the 308 election.
On top of this, again proved that M’sia politic is weak & shaky. The Assemblymen is chosen because of Party but not him/her contribution to the community. This is a concern for the future of M’sia political development. What are you expecting our M’sia gonna be in the forthcoming time?

Is a shame for all the politician who simply quitting to another party like they are going in & out at their own house. Is this a good representative from the RAKYAT? Think twice if the same person who gonna contest again the next coming election.

Just wonder what’s the impact after this Perak Govt falls incident. Is this will happen like THAI? Change & change again without ending?

I am disappointed to see what is currently happening in Perak. I really do not support BN at all, but two things have to be highlighted :
– mediocrity of politicians crossing over for reasons other than political beliefs is, in this case, under responsibility of PR. It is a serious warning that PR coalition is not ready to incarnate real change against BN. Better it happens now than later at federal level.
– voters have voted and from a strictly legal point of view, we cannot discuss the issue of election (that is : to provoke a new election) simply because of assemblymen’s mediocrity. PR is simply paying its weaknesses, and this is also democracy.

To conclude, I am really sorry to observe, that PR men are unable to behave in a more noble manner than BN people. This country will never change as long as corruption is everywhere, and 4 elected people changing their mind from white to black shows how poor their probity is. Good reason to lose faith in politics. Instead of discussing like football supporters, PR supporters should better firmly condemn such behaviour and accept the fact that their party is the only responsible for the situation… But such a statement requires a maturity that I am not sure Pakatan Rakyat have…

I think the Rakyat should spend more time on ‘cari makan’ rather than joining the circus, no matter who wins, I don’t see how it gonna help us. Look at some of our so-called leaders, it just make you wonder what quality they have, speak also one kind.

Well,AI is now beaten at his own game to take over by NTR, who also has ousted PL. KH has spoken but he was the reason for NTR and others used to oust PL.

PR and their leader, AI, should not complain as they started the game and lost. Hopefully they should just be a good loser and wait for the right time to topple BN in the next round. But to do that a real clean-up and a cohesive opposition front is needed. Squabbling amongst three parties have got to stop especially in Sabah and Sarawak or else NTR will win the next round which for PR to lose now.

As for POLITICAL FROGS,POWER and MONEY, it is a Malaysian pastime. Corruption is just “TEA MONEY” which is the grease which makes the SYSTEM RUNS smoothly in Malaysia.

Want to get rid of our common enemy and disease, all citizens over 21 must register as voters and make sure we develop a two party system.

Poor Perakians, you are not the only victim of money politics and Federal power play. Pairin and PBS of Sabah also fell down before. Ningkan and SNAP of Sarawak also. All because of political frogs! Cheong should “SPLIT” them all or rather “spit?”.

It would seem that The Sultan does not love his rakyat anymore. A tear falls as I write this. My beloved Malaysia is being destroyed by the miserable governance of the BN led Govt. In the future our children will be working as maids and labourers in a foreign land because the BN Govt has bankrupt our Malaysia. It is obvious that this Govt is not capable of leading us out of the economic crisis. We need a change and real soon. I beg the Sultan of Perak to give his rakyat a choice to choose for themselves who they want to govern them. A win in Perak for PR would naturally lead to a better future for Malaysia – at least the flame of hope will continue to grow stronger.

You are back in the real world. The sultan has allowed the BN to take control of the Perak asembly. I am sad a man like the former MB Nizar who tried so hard to do things right for the state and was bearing fruit has been removed. Believe me I am 66 years old and can see an honest guy in action in this MB. Its a great shame that the power was not returned to the rakyat to choose in a snap election. Its a sorry state that men so highly educaed had to make this WRONG decision and take democrary from the rakyaat and give it to this dogs BN to carry on with their corrupt doings. God help this beautiful country of ours

They proclaimed to be neutral, fair etc…. to the rakyat whenever they speak. However, just one stupid, immoral episode like this by the greedy and unethical politicians has revealed their true identities. Mamak kutty at least was right to take power away from these so called almost above the law people.
They sided with greedy, unethical and power crazy politicians from BN just to protect their comfy lives.
How to expect rakyat to respect them??
All this years I personally have tremendrous regards for them whenever they give talk. But just this incident, my perception of them turn 360 degrees. How selfish and greedy can people become!!
A real sad day for all perakians.

Like i said consult your lawyer first. The mechanic of law as per question 1/2/3 by you as posted by shall be answered. Specifically ask him to look at Undang-Undang Tubuh Negeri Perak, Malaysian Constitution, and some precedent facts and cases concerning simple majority government like Perak GE 2008. and do not limit the precedent and reports to Malaysian shore only. There’s precedent from India/New Zealand etc ( commonwealth countries)too for consideration. Simple Majority rule is unlike 2/3 majority. Simple majority is not an out-right win. Therefore 2008 GE Perak was an excellent opportunity for this issue.

Please do not get side track and romanticise the issue here by talking the will of the rakyat, about your conscience how you were robbed by UMNO bandits etc bla bla im not interested.The issue is the role of the Sultan back in 2008. The role that i asked people here to REMEMBER and why we should leave Sultan out of this.

IN 2008 the Sultan of Perak had a difficult decision to make. The decision as one can recall was deferred several times. As a non-partisan entity he the Sultan Perak must consult the Law of the land and must decide to the best interest of the rakyat.. Not even his conscience can help as his conscience might be wrong and might PARTIAL to certain factions or quarters.

Both BN and PR made their submission. Both BN and PR equally had the locus standi, the merits, the facts and law to do so back in 2008. But PR had the advantage. They only had to show the numbers whereas BN had to show why PR should not be the government and why the Sultan should consider BN as the minority government. Yes there is such thing as minority government and its part of democratic process.

And He chose PR and the rest was history. REMEMBER THAT..

And as for Kelantan we can only make guesses. so it wont serve any purpose here to go any further.

Hands up to agree Peronito statement. PR in future must start to look after their each party members. Especially all elected Assemblymen. Quality always despite of quantity. Bota Assemblymen is one of the example. This could lead to break the whole ally purpose to against the BN power domination in M’sia if this kind of mistake take it lightly.

As a Perakian, i’m concern what’s gonna happen after this? Perak already been left out of development compare to other state in the past few years. Now become a state of Political Circus venue for BN. It’s really hurt to every Perakian and i believe this definitely is a joke of the year 2009.

I think the term “rakyat decide” is a propaganda by the chinese people who wants to seize malaysia. I think it would be a long way before you could do that. Firstly “our” population is majority by Malaysia and most arm forces and millitary is also malays. so.. luckly perak was save by BN, because by the time the next election, many chinese people will be millionaires.. we dont want that do we.. i mean lets be frank.. chinese are greddy people.. and oppurtunist.. as if everyone dies and they live.. not all but most of them.. And for u malays out there “kalau tak sedar dan sibuk nak pkr… pikir pikir la anak u masa 10 tahun akan datang… jangan biarkan orang cina berkuase..

As much as i dislike BN but PKR and DAP especially is the worst party.. working for the people.. huh?? they all got personal agenda… all politicians have personal agenda.. even matmaha ghandi, read up history and u know whut i mean..

P/s Anwar is using u, so that he could revenge what they did to him 10 years age..

Mechanics of law and reality of perception will never mix. In current political impasse, the majority of rakyat relied on the latter…after all politics is about perception.

Notwithstanding that, Tuanku Sultan’s decision is flawed since it is used before any vote of no confidence is made in a proper assembly. So much for someone who once said that the role of Istana is just for formality purpose…Like it or not, he went against his own words. Rhetorical now it seems…

Please dont get confuse with the role of Yang Dipertuan Agong (concerning the Parliment) and the Role of Sultan (Dewan Rakyat). They are not the same.

Please cross refer Undang-Undang Tubuh Negeri Perak and our Constitution both for the vote of non-confidence and whether the Role of the Sultan is merely a formality.

His Rakyat is not only from PR. So in the matter of perception you just cant please everybody but as long as you within the correct work frame of law the Sultan is good. If he favors PR with the current situation what the rakyat from the opposing faction will say? This is exactly why He must rely to the letter of law.

So people please stop this idea of like the Sultan is being unfair to PR, not neutral etc. REMEMBER what he did on MARCH 2008. Also as a rakyat (Perak) please be fair to His Royal Highness also.

PR made a mistake for choosing the wrong candidate, like the Changkat Jering fellow is only a former postman!. So the next time pls choose the proper candidate. This not the end of the world for PR. In 4 years, they can even take over the federal government esp so when Najis become the Prime Minister!!!

Sultan is the one who put Nizar to be MB evens thou there are a lot of arguments.

Sultan is the one who choose and accepted the government who will govern and be the administration of his people. Usually Sultan will follow Rakyat vote but that doesn’t mean Sultan cannot do otherwise.

As a neutral and having a solid and constant hope for his Rakyat, Sultan will choose the best one to govern the state. In this case he chooses not to dissolve the DUN and let BN to form a new government.

If you haven’t read how Sultan let PR set up a government on the 8th of March 2008. PR hasn’t been legally established yet till today. BN on the 8th of March could use the law to denied the coalition between PKR, PAS and DAP. But Sultan of Perak knows that his Rakyat wants the PR as PR has a majority at that time, so he let PR set up the government. BN accepted it even thou they do not want to lose their state.

Now things have change and BN has the majority. After considering what has happened to his state in 11 months Sultan made his decisions. I’m sure he knows well what the best is for his people. He knows the law better than any of us.

How could you expect PR coalition that haven’t got a firm stand in a lot of important matter to lead you??? BN in the other hands has already establish a firm stand for 50 years and today has promise to changed for the better to suit the Rakyat needs. We need a stable goverment that can lead the us for a long term, not a popular goverment but only can lead us in a short term.