Firstly it most likely didn't come from baboons. I suppose in theory it could have spread to humans from having sex with primates but is that really the most logical way an animal virus spreads to humans? How do most zoonoses spread? How do dogs spread rabies? Rats spread plague?

The most logical way it spread was from humans handling bushmeat. Maybe they cut their hand while chopping up contaminated chimpanzee flesh. If a human tried to screw a chimp, they would've died from the blood loss as a result of having their cock and balls ripped off, before they even had a chance to develop HIV.

The leading theory on Ebola is that it came from monkeys who had it and who were then killed and eaten by savages.

Perhaps the same for AIDS?

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Bushmeat is the culprit. As a LAT with a major research product supplier, you encounter and become familiar with all communicable simian diseases. SIV is just one. Herpes B virus is much more intimidating.

Firstly it most likely didn't come from baboons. I suppose in theory it could have spread to humans from having sex with primates but is that really the most logical way an animal virus spreads to humans? How do most zoonoses spread? How do dogs spread rabies? Rats spread plague?

The most logical way it spread was from humans handling bushmeat. Maybe they cut their hand while chopping up contaminated chimpanzee flesh. If a human tried to screw a chimp, they would've died from the blood loss as a result of having their cock and balls ripped off, before they even had a chance to develop HIV.

Some studies have shown that it is a lab made virus. It was tested on Africans in some remote area and got out of control. The Virus constantly mutates making it obvious that it is not a natural occuring virus. Some thoughts are that the cure has been discovered but the FDA did not or will not approve it just yet.

Firstly it most likely didn't come from baboons. I suppose in theory it could have spread to humans from having sex with primates but is that really the most logical way an animal virus spreads to humans? How do most zoonoses spread? How do dogs spread rabies? Rats spread plague?

The most logical way it spread was from humans handling bushmeat. Maybe they cut their hand while chopping up contaminated chimpanzee flesh. If a human tried to screw a chimp, they would've died from the blood loss as a result of having their cock and balls ripped off, before they even had a chance to develop HIV.

Some studies have shown that it is a lab made virus. It was tested on Africans in some remote area and got out of control. The Virus constantly mutates making it obvious that it is not a natural occuring virus. Some thoughts are that the cure has been discovered but the FDA did not or will not approve it just yet.

Firstly it most likely didn't come from baboons. I suppose in theory it could have spread to humans from having sex with primates but is that really the most logical way an animal virus spreads to humans? How do most zoonoses spread? How do dogs spread rabies? Rats spread plague?

The most logical way it spread was from humans handling bushmeat. Maybe they cut their hand while chopping up contaminated chimpanzee flesh. If a human tried to screw a chimp, they would've died from the blood loss as a result of having their cock and balls ripped off, before they even had a chance to develop HIV.

Some studies have shown that it is a lab made virus. It was tested on Africans in some remote area and got out of control. The Virus constantly mutates making it obvious that it is not a natural occuring virus. Some thoughts are that the cure has been discovered but the FDA did not or will not approve it just yet.

He says that they brought monkeys carrying various infectious diseases. Firstly, it is clear that they are joking about the whole situation. Secondly, when does he say that they put AIDS into vaccines? They were trying to develop vaccines and had brought in these wild monkeys for research purposes. At no point did he say that he "put AIDS into vaccines for humans".

To suggest such a thing shows many levels of ignorance on the subject. Firstly, Maurice Hilleman is probably responsible for saving more lives than any other scientist in the 20th century. To suggest he knowingly created an AIDS riddled vaccine, having spent his life trying to save other lives, is insane.

Secondly, AIDS is the resulting pathology of the HIV virus i.e. the disease or group of symptoms that occur in a patient with prolonged HIV infection. HIV is a strain of virus that only infects humans - it doesn't exist in any other species. Now, HIV arose in humans following infection by a closely related virus, SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) which spread from chimpanzees. SIV was not compatible in humans upon initial infection (it couldn't survive) but a mutated strain was able to adapt and survive in its new host, hence the development of HIV.

So basically HIV (and the resulting AIDS disease) arose in humans from a primate precursor virus. For somebody to say that "AIDS was in vaccines" shows such a level of ignorance, that it nullifies any other opinions of that person on the topic.

Obviously you don't want to believe the truth. Numerous stories about bioengineers testing a new virus on the Africans right around the same time as the AIDS virus came to be. Some of those people died in a tragic helpicopter "accident".

You need to understand mutation. In nature viruses don't mutate as quickly as the AIDS virus does. That's why treatments are useless. When scients nail it down, the virus changes again and again and again.

BTW, pigs and chickens are known vectors for viruses to make a transgenic leap. Simians are an even shorter leap.

Be as closed minded as you want. I only stated that the case was strong. I, just like you, have no definitive research dedicated to the subject. I know first hand what pathogens are capable of. I've committed entire days to euthanasia and necropsy due to the presence of tuberculosis. Quite the sight. Quite the feeling knocking down a 52 cage room. I'll agree to disagree with ya pops.