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Topic: seeking for help... (Read 17951 times)

kudos to all of you for making the worried ones feel very encouraged and helping to relieve whatever anxiousness we have...

and with that, i'd also love to hear from you to enlighten me on this...

i live in the philippines, and is 26 at present..

something has been bothering me for the past (almost) 2 months...

in October 3, 2006, I had a very intense kissing session with a guy.. this session didn't have any sexual act involved. however i had cracks in my lips due to the humid weather. after that he told me he's experiencing upset stomach a lot, and tends to vomit a lot of the time... what if his vomit has blood in it? but then i'd never kiss a guy who has vomitus in his mouth...

3 days later, i had tonsilitis (and swollen throat i suppose from this) and a high fever (at 41C)... i had NO swollen lymph nodes however... this lasted for 2 days.

i was very anxious at that time, and kept asking "how come?"

then came November 10... i met another guy and yes, we had oral sex and intense kissing (i'm quite a good kisser, LOL)... but I am the only one being "sucked"... we met again 2 days later, and once more we did it, with the same scenario as in our first encounter. as i can assure, no anal was involved...

then 2 days after that, he texted me and told me he' s having fever, muscle ache, and difficulty swallowing.. "oops, similar things i felt last october! except for muscle ache"... and well, he told me he's already okay the next day.

but it has alarmed me a lot!!! why would that happen?

so i followed your advice (i'm a regular guest of your forums)... got tested despite it's only been 54 days since that all this anxiousness started... i ran to the diagnostic laboratory... they got my blood sample... after that, i prayed so hard, i almost cried in church while lighting a candle...

this has been my fourth hiv testing since 2000 (i'm a very very paranoid person ... i'm a big fan of the laboratories!

I do not want to give an opinion on your "risk" situation you describe, since I am not an expert. A general answer is kissing and oral sex are not risky. Sorry you are "paranoid", but just enjoy your good results and get on with your life!-megasept

No it is not an indication of ARS. You were not exposed. As you have been running to the clinical labs for 6 years you should do something about that. Stop being so scared and get with the program. Educate yourself on how it is transmitted and avoid that activity. Kissing isn't one of them. It's a good way of getting some viruses, but certainly NOT HIV. Not ever.

Rich

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thanks a lot to you megasept, andy, and hivworker! you guys are "bossa nova" to my ears!

but one last bugging question before i fold this up... so the fever and tonsilitis experienced by my partner (two days after we made love in November 2006) were not in any way connected with hiv?

and was my decision to get tested after 54 days a guarantee?

hats off to you guys!

P.S. The previous hiv testings i had since 2000 were from diffrent occassions... i guess i was misunderstood with that.. what i am really concerned a lot was with this recent encounter in October 2006... the fever and tonsilitis..

2 days is way too quick for HIV symptoms. They come on minimally over a week after exposure, usually 2 weeks is the common minimum. 1 week has been heard of, but it is hard to say whether it was HIV because it is common to get flu/cold symptoms and it is hard to tell. That's why symptoms mean nothing.

R

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For kissing and receiving a blow job? I wouldn't worry about that. You didn't need to test, but the fact you tested negative at that time is good enough.

Rich

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It doesn't matter what your friend had. You didn't do anything to put you at risk. Even if they were infected, you would not be. However, to answer your question, the most common cause of fever and sore throats is a cold or flu. There are about 90 million cases per year in the USA. You decide which is more likely.

R

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whew... its a countdown to christmas and a countdown (2nd week of January 2007) to the 13-week test as well,,, thanks for the replies especially from Rich, i know there's no need for further testing, since as you said its a no-risk situation... just for psychological reasons.

however there still are times that i worry about the fever and tonsillitis my partner had (yet im not sure if he got those from me) after the blowjob and deep kissing (with cracks on the lips... grrr)...

its the only thing bothering me. everytime i think about it, i feel a tumbling world... can a person be a "flu-carrier" or "tonsilitis-carrier" for life? still a little scared to make love to anyone... please help with that...

Mononucleosis is not helped by antibiotics as it is a virus. I've never heard of it being called "kissing tonsils". If you had questions about what you were being diagnosed with, I cannot imagine why you didn't ask the doctor. Do you think we have crystal balls to fathom out what your doctor was thinking? If you want answers about "kissing tonsils", I suggest you call your doctor and ask him.

This is an hiv website, not a kissing illness website. Kissing and hiv have nothing to do with each other.

Kissing is NOT a risk for hiv infection and you do not need to test over a kiss.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Some children are born with or develop "kissing tonsils". These are tonsils so large that they meet in the middle of the back of the mouth. When they get sick, children with kissing tonsils often get a muffled voice, have problems swallowing, or may have trouble breathing. If you look into your child's mouth, and the tonsils are kissing, notify your doctor. Your doctor may need to give a course of medication to decrease the swelling of these tonsils.

This was a quick search on your tonsil situation. It just means they are ENLARGED.

I strongly urge you to heed the advice of the others and get help for your anxiety.

« Last Edit: December 21, 2006, 05:23:19 PM by ACinKC »

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LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safelyin a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT ARIDE!!!

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

we enjoyed each other's company, and agreed to have anal... it was actually my first time to do this, i promise.

I am the one on TOP,and he bottomed... Of course, I followed your advise about correct condom & lube use... well, it was fun!

however, before all the anxieties (oh c'mon) start all over again, i just have to ask this question...

After having sex, I didn't remove the condom immediately as we checked out of the room. It was still in my penis,and I'm wearing briefs with the condom in it.. I am thinking if the SCROTUM can absorb anything bothersome. Can it?

I took a bath two hours later, and only then did i removed the condom... i'm begging for an answer so as to preempt anxieties... thank you guys in advance!

An impaired immune system is not a subtle event when it happens. Your body is essentially collapsing in various ways and you would know it for sure. Your swollen tonsils do not imply that you have an immune system problem.

Get yourself tested, collect what I expect will be a negative result and then you will be faced with the challenge of letting go of this concern and getting on with your life.

is being OVERWEIGHT a factor in the 13-week testing? i'm overweight (as in obese big guy)... just had the results yesterday and i'd love to know if it being really fat makes it harder for antibodies to show up...

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I live in the PHILIPPINES, and the tests performed on me were also from laboratories in here... well, the labs look really modern and i know for a fact that it is bcuz i live in the city of Manila...

However, i would love to know if the tests performed here (ELISA too, i suppose), will also be as reliable as the tests performed in your respective countries? are the machines & techniques used in here be different from yours? can i truly say it is really conclusive at the 13-week period?

my blood was withdrawn on a thursday... the processing was done on a friday, then i got the results the following DAY w/c is saturday... i was wondering why you guys have to wait for two weeks, to get your results?

LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safelyin a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT ARIDE!!!

2 days ago, i had sex with a guy i met online.. he seemed very eager to have sex with me, and since it has been a long time since i had done it with anyone, i agreed... i kind of liked him too..

we had an ALL-NIGHTER, but only oral and alittle frottage. I am the one being sucked, and he deep-throated me a lot! In return, i licked his scrotum and almost his entire body but I did not suck his penis. he was very much happy with it anyways.

afterwards we chatted... he told me he just had sex with a foreigner last month.. kind of freaked me out, thinkin it was risky.

Today, we had a date. while talking with him, i noticed a sore that is starting to heal on the side of his mouth... i asked him what it is, and he replied it was a COLD SORE he had since last week...

so now im bothered again... we kissed a lot, and he deep-throated me (as in really deep) all night...

any chances of getting hiv this way? i'm too anxious to wait for 13 weeks again... my heart keeps on pumpin very fast...

thanks for any inputs you'll provide,,, it will be very much appreciated and followed

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection, deep-throat or no deep-throat.

The only thing the cold sore put you at risk for is herpes. Cold sore is another way of saying herpes. You can get herpes on your penis. If you have concerns about this, see your doctor. It is absolutely NOT an hiv concern.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Getting a blowjob - no matter what sort of spin you want to put on it INCLUDING the amount of time - is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not one single person has ever become infected this way and you certainly won't be the first.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

i only have one, and its beside my eyelid.. it's been there for months now, so i decided to google it...

and then i was alarmed and scared once again, the HIV issues popped again! one site even said that its one of the first signs of infection...

now, if only you'll see me, im slowly becoming depressed once again... why does it have to be HIV-related? from all the stuff i learned on this forum, i had always been obedient of safe sex lessons. i don't even have sex that much, and i make sure i bring a condom everytime i'm on to it..

just had an hiv-antibody test last may,,, it came non-reactive... and now im planning for another, 3 months from now, to rule out if my ONE Molluscum Contagiosum is something i should worry about again,,,

It is most certainly useless wondering on your part. Molluscum contagiosum is not restricted to HIV positive people and cannot be considered an indicator of infection with anything but the pox virus that causes it.

Unless you've engaged in unprotected anal and/or vaginal intercourse or if you've been sharing needles and syringes then you don't need to be tested for HIV again.

Indeed unless a doctor has diagnosed the lesion near your eye as a mollusca then you can't say for sure that you have that condition. You should consult with your doctor and have it treated if necessary.

other websites say that this also happens when one has an impaired immune system. does this mean that i have to wait for 6 months to get antibody testings in the future?

plus, this one molluscum contagiosum happened to be in my face, beside the eye particularly... i googled this and it says that this occurs on people with HIV, but in numerous amounts (more than 20), and is intense.

i only have one, but it bothered me so much since yesterday when i googled it...

If you'd read the Welcome Thread as you've been asked to previously you'd know that you cannot contract HIV from getting a blowjob. Ann, Roddles and our other experts have told you this on numerous occasions.

The testing window period is 13 weeks NOT 6 months but it doesn't matter in your case because you didn't have a risk to begin with.

Molluscum contagiosum affects people with HIV and people who don't have HIV. You don't have HIV but you can still get a molluscum. If the lesion on your eye is worrying you see a doctor, have it properly diagnosed and treated if necessary.

As for other websites, well we have no control over what they say. You'll read lots of things on the internet, but when it comes to HIV/AIDS this website (AIDSmeds) is the only place to go. Our advice is 100% rock solid reliable and our reputation as the leading HIV/AIDS website is well deserved.

No, it is NOT hiv related. You don't even know if it actually IS molluscum anyway. I once thought I had a patch of molluscum (after looking at photos on the internet as you no doubt have done), but the doctor took one look and said "NO". It turned out to be something else I can't remember the name of and it went away on its own.

See your doctor about this thing on your skin. Don't self-diagnose, it's bad for your health.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

yesterday i was on the laboratory for our pre-employment check-up... the med-tech gave me a container to put my urine sample. however she was also doing venipuncture on the patients... the lid on it i think has some blood in it, cause there was a red streak. what worried me is that i have a wound (which was a cut from an accidentally broken glass a day before and is starting to heal and i didn't put bandage on it)... what if my wound came in contact with the blood on the lid? im scared once again..

You've been coming here for eight months now and it would seem you have learned nothing. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that does not remain able to infect when it is outside the host. Hiv transmission occurs INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Using condoms prevents transmission.

Your extreme hiv anxieties are outside the scope of this website. Please seek counseling to learn how to deal with your anxieties. We cannot help you with that here.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It REALLY is that simple!

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

i had an encounter last saturday with a gay male. it was my first time in months, and i was quite lonely then so i decided to hook up with him. he did oral on me, and then we had anal, and i was the one on top. of course, i asked if there's a condom available. yes there was but no water-based lube. we decided to use a hand lotion instead. i was worried if this is ok since i know that water-based lubes are the best.. was it ok?

then i pulled it out and he performed oral on me again till i came. i had a nice feeling then because i knew i made someone happy for a night!

however, while we were talking post-encounter, we talked about his work. i looked on his ID and said that he had fever when the pic was taken last March 21 2008. he also mentioned that during that time, his fever lasted for one month, with diarrhea and all. he said he had sex with several men before that. i was quite worried because he mentioned his fever lasted for a month!

he said he got tested at a first-class hospital here, and they said he's negative. but that was just 2 months ago, i did not ask when he took that test to avoid further anxiety to us both.

i am quite worried for his one-month fever. good thing though i wore a condom... its just that i don't wanna go through the "what if?" stage again.. help guys... tnx!

I've merged your latest thread with your old one. Please keep all of your entries in this same thread.

Whatever your most recent partner told you is irrelevant about HIV status. That kind of conversation is never something to rely upon. YOU are responsible for protecting your own health. The important thing is that you wore a condom when you had intercourse with him. Also, apparently the hand lotion did not damage the condom. You need to remember to only use water-based lube in the future as anything else could result in the condom breaking down.

His giving you oral was not a risk for transmisson. So I don't see any reason to be concerned about HIV transmission in relation to this latest incident. You've been around here enough in the past to know the basics about transmission. So let's not as you say, get into another round of "what ifs" when there is no cause for concern.

just a bit paranoid that he told me about his one month bout with fever,and am scared because of this. is one-month fever indicative of ars? but he told me he had a checkup. whew! am i just another worried well,,,

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

im feeling a little nervous after having sex with a stranger. he did oral on me while he was masturbating himself. he came, and he jerked mine with his hands (and i think it has semen) and touched the head of my penis. then he did oral on me again. but i think his mouth is not wet enough with saliva. is this risky? i am frightened on what if his sperm entered my urethra..

please help me again. i have always been thankful to u guys for all the enlightenment on us, the flipped-outs. and here i am to thank you again for your helpful reply.

If we were so helpful to you and you were really taking in what was said to you, then you ought to realize there was no risk whatsoever for transmission in your latest situation. Once again, his semen getting on to the head of your penis is not a risk. Period.

Listen up! Sexually in sex between men, the risk for HIV transmission is from unprotected anal intercourse. Everything else is strictly theoretical as far as risk.

It's time you learned to apply what has been said to you in the past to ongoing experiences. We're not here to hold your hand and repeat the same things everytime you have sex and start getting nervous again.