The word "not", in contemporary English usage, stands for the opposite of something being done. Inclusive between the two "not", would be the "how dare I come down on him" part...

If ya READ that part of the post, you will see that it is a SARCASTIC gesture, written in regard to Immortal, fulfilling the purpose of seperating the idea that I am defending Eric, and the reality that I am not defending what he did.

And nowhere do I seem to recall calling anybody an asshole. Nor did I say he got abused by his parents. Nor did I mention that his engine blew. Nor did I mention half a dozen other things, everybody else is mentioning them, I've not mentioned shit, not defended shit, but I do, however, appreciate the thought, makes it a HELL of a lot easier to talk about something when people put words in your mouth and do all the talking for you, almost effortless on your part really.

Saurian.... you and Eric are "friends" so I am pretty positive you have been over to Stan's place on more than one occasion.

That being said you probably contributed to the condition of the place, hence "defending" your friend.

Nuts? Yes. Completely. Anyone in the known world will gladly verify that too.

I'm not saying that Eric didn't fukc up, wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last... I don't know Stan, but I'd be pissed beyond all levels of being pissed if I was in his shoes. All I'm saying is that there is more to the story, while it's damn well no excuse whatsoever for the condition of the house, does not at all absolve what happened to the house, and does not at all change the fact that the house is a total fucking disaster, it's at least another factor to be considered, but since everyone has made up their minds how they feel about concerned parties, it's not like anything I say will change that, this is why I am not bothering to bother, point in fact, I'm getting ready to run to the post office and then cruise around in the Jeep because I cannot sleep...

I have a feeling that this thread will get interesting, might be focused on what a twisted, creepy, scary, stalkerish, hateful, cold, quiet, school-bombing suspect, guy-to-fear-in-a-back-alley uninformed -raising tool I am, eventually slip back to the point at hand, and disappear into the land of wind and ghosts... Eric happens to be my friend. He has not personally fucked me over. He HAS fucked over a lot of people, while I do not associate with assholes by any means, I do make my assessments of a person's character based on their interactions with me in person, and that alone, which is why I am not gonna stop being his friend, not going to come down on him like his mother and put the smackdown on him for what he did, nor will I come up in this thread and say that there's a perfectly good explanation for what he did, not even terribly sure why I'm bothering to give up all this background information in the first place, maybe it's because I got popcorned...

This is the first time I have ever been popcorned, so I don't really know how to react to the honour, forgive me if I've overstepped

I have been over there. I helped him clean it up a couple times, several months ago. Recently, I have not been over there in quite some time. I have not heard from him in quite some time either, not since before he moved. The couple times I was over there, the main purpose was him helping me wrench on my Jeep, or me helping him with his, sorry, but the only thing I ever left over at that house was a beer mug.

Again, I'm not defending shit! I really don't know or care about his past history, he could have a heroin addiction that he got while being beaten by nuns while watching his parents barbecue all his toys on the back porch while watching his mother drink paint thinner to forget the pain while watching... the list goes on and on, I don't care... At no point whatsoever did I say "well, it's OK that he left the mess, because..." There is no validation for that, and I never said there was, "talking out you ass" is easy when other people are putting words in your mouth. Apparantly, I picked the wrong answer, supposed it should have gone something like this...

Wow, I hate that asshole too, let's go and jump him and pee on his cat.

Anything short of that is getting me flamed all to hell, don't I feel special!

wow what a bunch of whiney bitches trying to rag on saurin reread his post its says he is not defending him

Listen bitch I was "NOT" calling him out on his "NOT" defending him. But the "ASSHOLES that are "RAGGING" on him that he posted 6 lines later. Sarcasm or not, this is as close to family I get without it being. That being said I am pissed with the current situation. Wrong time to joke when this type of shit goes on.

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Originally Posted by jeepbrattt

An occasional jello or vasoline wrestling match isn't out of the question either.

Saurian- this is the wrong time to try and speak good of him... is all I have to say. I know you don't care what he is/was before you met him, but knew now of his style of living. Trying to clean well great looks like a good job was done.

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Originally Posted by jeepbrattt

An occasional jello or vasoline wrestling match isn't out of the question either.

Saurian sometimes you need to kick your friend in the nutz when the screw up as bad as this.

This wasnt an accident it wasnt even a one time thing. I met eric at the party and he seemed nice enough on the surface. Besides getting him help you need to be his reality check if he is in denial or god only knows what makes someone act like such a fool .... but somethings you cant defend, or things get so bad no one wants to even hear you speak in high regards of that someone. At the rate he is going i don't see how he can possibly make new friends. i mean if a nice guy like stan makes such great opportunity as a good steady job and free rent and he dicks stan over ... how can you possibly make friends. There is no hope for him. That is so anti social he is practically begging to be a hermit. I would suggest you buy him a ticket to the hills out west and he can live happily unibomber style in a shed.

He is his own personal level of dsyfuntion .... he needs to be on Jerry springer or Maury povitch. Do right by the guy and make him get help and make sure he stays on the right track .... or atleast stops burning every bridge he comes across.

I first met Eric about 6 years ago, I guess I know him as much as anybody. He always seemed ok and stopped by about 3 weeks ago (same day as the monster jam, my wife and son were there) saying he was moving in with some friends in Plymouth or Livonia, jeep seemed to run ok. To me, Eric seems like the kinda guy that can never get his shit together and it's never his fault. Honestly I never had a problem with him, but hes a little out there sometimes. When he told me abouth the situation at Stans place it seemed like a good deal for him. I couldn't begin to defend those pictures let alone the things that probly led up to him being asked to leave. Good luck getting things straight Stan, I'd help but i'm scared of the hood.

I don't give a shit about the person that did it and which people on this board are his friends since it doesn't make the situation any better.... If you need help to clean it, add my name to your army. I have a fullsize P/U and a big trailer.