Int Corps No.2 Dress/FAD Regs

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Swinger

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this in work as I should probably know but what's the score with Corps SNCOs wearing a green sash and belt with No.2 Dress/FAD? I've made it through my whole career so far without ever having to wear the stuff but it looks like I've now been cornered and have to get some ready pretty quickly.

Last time I wore mine was pass-off and I'm sure I remember the instructors wearing sashes and belts but can't be certain and don't have my pass-off photo handy to check. I've seen people wearing webbing belts with No.2s (looks pretty chippy in my opinion) but I distinctly remember people wearing the square plate belt buckles with cap badge on... So, what's the proper regs on this?

On the other hand, if you are wearing shiny boots, a clean, brushed beret, suitable belt and medals then I don't suppose anyone will be too bothered. If anyone kicks up a fuss ask them* what is says in dress regs. Unless it's the Corps RSM they probably won't have seen a copy either...

Rodney2q

* edited to add...not Them...obviously. They used to have a difficult time grasping the concept of "regulations", let alone something as tricky as what to wear...

On the other hand, if you are wearing shiny boots, a clean, brushed beret, suitable belt and medals then I don't suppose anyone will be too bothered. If anyone kicks up a fuss ask them* what is says in dress regs. Unless it's the Corps RSM they probably won't have seen a copy either...

Rodney2q

* edited to add...not Them...obviously. They used to have a difficult time grasping the concept of "regulations", let alone something as tricky as what to wear...

LE

As I recall from my dim and very distant past, the only SNCOs to wear a Green Sash, (not the Sash my Father Wore !), officially, were those Drill Instructors or the Orderly Sergeant (occasionally) at the Old Depot. Worn from the Right shoulder (underneath a buttoned down or velcro sealed epaulette) to the Left side of the waist OVER the waist belt (whatever the colour or material). Said Sash, belt and Beret is removed on entry into the Sgts Mess on pain of extras. The only other time I have seen a Green Sash being worn (apart from Cummerbund) is when a SNCO ensconced within a Unit was required to perform the Duties of Orderly Sergeant.

Generally, though, it was as rare as the proverbial Rocking Horse Shit.

LE

As I recall from my dim and very distant past, the only SNCOs to wear a Green Sash, (not the Sash my Father Wore !), officially, were those Drill Instructors or the Orderly Sergeant (occasionally) at the Old Depot.

Sergeant Major Pete Withers comes to mind, as does Staff Sergeant John Ryles [sp].

Clanker

I recall it being great sport in Joint HQs abroad for every member of the Army staff to wear different uniforms from each other. The Int Corps contingent also managed to wear different uniforms regularly, often not even uniform, and gave outlandish explanations for why, for example, lanyards were worn on different shoulders. There were only two of us.

The question is bollocks and the answer is simple. If it is something really official wear in accordance with whatever dress regs are now. The adjutant or Corps RSM will know. If you are going to a wedding or similar wear whatever the **** you like. Firstly, nobody will know any better. Secondly, if they might know better then tell lies (see para above). Lastly, if they really do know then buy them beer and swear them to secrecy.

LE

As I recall from my dim and very distant past, the only SNCOs to wear a Green Sash, (not the Sash my Father Wore !), officially, were those Drill Instructors or the Orderly Sergeant (occasionally) at the Old Depot.

Sergeant Major Pete Withers comes to mind, as does Staff Sergeant John Ryles [sp].

When I went through Mr Withers was Corps RSM but I don't recall his first name (I think it was Sir !). However, he did have two sons who joined the Corps, one of whom was nicknamed Butt Marker for some reason. He wasn't called Pete but I don't recollect the christian name of his brother.

Oh and the Cummerbund was very sexy (especially if thats all the WRAC were wearing at the time) - the social life was the only thing I enjoyed in Cyprus except for the Fancy Dress Evening in the Mess when they objected to my Nazi outfit (RTR Black Coveralls with a few accoutrements, including a Dirk)

LE

In answer to the original post, you never wear a webbing belt with No2 dress, unless you are an utter **** that can't sort basic admin out. The correct belt is the green fabric type that comes in a roll from the QMs. FAD has its own belt anyway, which looks very RAF but hey ho.

With regards to a white belt and old stable belt style buckle, that is "at the discretion of the parade commander" which is why squads passing out at Templer wear them. As for the sash, it doesn't get mentioned in the new top secret dress regs. Let's not discuss them in an open forum, god knows what our enemies might garner from our various states of uniform....