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Monday, March 17, 2008

Lockdown is Over

1:25pm BBT

BB: Houseguests. The lockdown is over. You are now free to move about the house.

The HGs leave the HoH room, and see no discernible change.

Matt, Adam and Ryan head outside to play some pool.

Josh, Sharon, James and Chelsia go into game mode...

Storage RoomJoshuah, Chelsia Joshuah: Something's not quite right. When I catch her, it will not be good.

Chelsia goes, Sharon comes in. Joshuah tells her that Sheila is working the other side, and not to tell her anything.

CUT TO:1:36pm BBTPool TableMatt, Adam, NatalieMatt: OK, you are my 2 confidants, it's not lookin' good huh?Adam: It's not looking good.Matt: What am I gonna have? One vote? Two Votes.Adam: One, maybe two.Natalie waxes poetic about how he definitely has her vote and she will not be persuaded otherwise.

Adam advises Matt to go off on the others completely. Might as well go out with a bang.

Ryan comes back out. Natalie launches back into "the good people." Ryan agrees with her that they are the better people in the house. He tries to include Sharon in "the good people," but Natalie wont have it, since Sharon made her choice to be with the others...

Natalie: It's all part of the plan. We weren't meant to win before. We are now... Talking bad about me.. persecuting me behind my back... They can't break me. God is just blessing me and taking care of me.

Natalie starts quoting the bible. Ironic choice, considering.

"A foolish man speaks many words. A wise man speaks few."

Meanwhile, inside the house, Sheila is in Sharon's ear. Josh is not straying far from the situation.

Serious question for you Christians out there… How can people who truly believe (which I think Natalie does), imagine that it is god's will, there is divine intervention, game competitors are the evil enemy, etc. Is this not really an offense to the tenants Christianity, to be so self indulgent, hateful, lacking empathy and perspective, and to believe that simply because you are a believer you can have whatever you want? Someone earlier today discussed the idea of Christians thinking they are the “good people.” Ok, I think it’s ridiculous and offensive, but I understand the concept – if you are a believer you are good. So what does that make Sharon and Josh, and even Chelsia, all of whom are believers in the Christian god? How is their “evilness” justified?

I too find it lame how they all sit there and read the bible and then the F bomb comes out. They all drop it so frequently and then act hollier then thou.. I guess we are supposed to worship the quicksand they all walk on. I'm glad I'm not sitting next to them when they have the bible in one hand and quoting scriptures and giving BJ's and cussing like they all do never know when he might strike.

Bravo, Jane! As a Christian, I do not get this type of behavior either.

I can typically like any type of personality in the BB house except for these "Christians" who talk out of both sides of their head. The fact that Natalie is so judgemental is a contradiction to her "beliefs".

As soon as someone starts spewing the "good people/bad people/evil" nonsense... I am done with them.

"It's all part of the plan. We weren't meant to win before. We are now... Talking bad about me.. persecuting me behind my back... They can't break me. God is just blessing me and taking care of me."

1.)you still arent meant to win 2.)she talks bad about people also.3.)They are breaking her cause they know when matt walks out that door shes just going to break down and cry.4.)what is god blessing her with right now? She hasnt won HOH she hasnt won POV for a couple weeks, her partner and the "love" of her life is leaving her.

Not sure why you think James, Chelsia and Josh are horrible people but the rest are above reprieve. Every person in that house has lied multiple times, and every one of them would sell out the alliance to guarantee themselves another week in the house. It's the game.

josh, james, & chelsia.. are the only ones playing the game, all the bs they talk they follow thru with.. unlike the other side where everyone leaches off everyone else.. matt off natalie, adam off whoever gives him attention, ryan is just there, none of them really have any strategic move.. i stick with the james crew.. i want james to take it all..

Annon 1:55, I don't see how you can call James and Chelsia bad people. If Nat and the others are who you identify with, they do NOT seem to have the morals they like to think they have. And if you go back over the entire game, you will see that James has stayed true to himself and not been wishy washy in where he stands. If he says he's going to do something, he does it. YOU just have to listen to the wording he uses.(Just like Julie Chen, wording is everything.)

Quote: "Serious question for you Christians out there… How can people who truly believe (which I think Natalie does), imagine that it is god's will, there is divine intervention, game competitors are the evil enemy, etc. Is this not really an offense to the tenants Christianity, to be so self indulgent, hateful, lacking empathy and perspective, and to believe that simply because you are a believer you can have whatever you want? Someone earlier today discussed the idea of Christians thinking they are the “good people.” Ok, I think it’s ridiculous and offensive, but I understand the concept – if you are a believer you are good. So what does that make Sharon and Josh, and even Chelsia, all of whom are believers in the Christian god? How is their “evilness” justified?

Or are these people just profoundly dim and misguided (stupid)?

Jane"

Hi Jane,

These people are just dim.

I am Christian and I turn to my faith in trying and stressful times, but never do I think that I deserve something more than another because I am Christian.

And...the fact that Natalie thinks that she should win because she is a "good person" is backwards.

I think the house makes them all coo-coo, lol. (Although, I think that Natalie was a little off-her-rocker BEFORE she entered the BB House.)

Jane-I have found myself wondering the same thing MANY times in life. Some of the most vocal people about being a Christian have hurt me the most. So, what have I discovered? Religion shouldn't just be there when you "need" it. Where are her strong religious beliefs and values when she is stripping and "pleasuring" Matt? It is a little hypocritical. But as in life I have decided that is is really between them and God. I think ALL of the HG have had VERY questionable morals and if they were at all VERY religious would realize they have ALL sinned and couldbe considered evil (excluding Sharon maybe). But God is a VERY forgiving God and knows we are not perfect but I do beileve that he would NO want us to have him hurt us or for him to take sides. Her whole thinking and rationaitly are ridiculous! (Kind of like my typos I am known for!)

OMG, Jane!! I am so glad someone else is thinking the same way!! I am Catholic and can not stand to listen to Nat rant on about God and her beliefs!! My ears hurt!!! She has no idea what she is talking about half the time and she is acting a total fool and extremely hypocritical!!! UGH!!! Sorry, had to get that off my chest!! LOL!! :-P

I can't believe how much of a love/hate relationship that I have with Shelia. One minute I love her and then the next she is just going on and on about herself. Like right now with Matty, he was talking to Chelsia and butted in about how it was when she was on the block and no one comforted her, I don't see her doing that with people when they are on the block! Her mouth is really going to be the reason she doesn't win this game!

Did anyone just hear the conversation with Natalie telling Ryan that she'd move to wear his friend Landon is if it was true love?? Hello, you haven't even met him yet!!!! lol crazy girl. Plus has anyone noticed she is the LOUDEST eater in the house. I have to turn my feeds on mute when she eats, lol

Natalie really manages to offend me when she goes on about how 'she is a woman of God, God is on her side only, He will smite down all the others'.Horrible! I'm a Christian and it is not about that AT ALL.

I am a strong Christian. The mistake most people (especially my fellow Christians) make about Christians is that Christians are the 'Good People'. We are all sinners, the only difference being the belief that Jesus died for our sins, thus paying for our sins. Unfortunately many misunderstand the gift of eternal salvation to mean the gift of eternal blessing. Ghandi once said, “I like your Christ. I don’t like your Christians." He pretty much nailed it.

I believe people go into this game with the intentions of winning, no matter what hands down. Im sure their are very few who hope and like to believe they wont step on, lie, talk behind peoples backs, whatever it takes to win, But that is how it happens. I believe money makes people selfish. Honestly this house started out sharing too much too soon, just trying to be friends, etc. The more you tell the more you get burned with. It comes down to if you think you played a good game and you can be proud of that than that is all that matters.

Hands down I am hoping James takes himself and Chelsia all the way, It doesnt boil down to who didnt lie or cheat or play with peoples heads, it comes down to whom played the better game, and who out lasted, look at ED he was hated since almost day one by everyone in the house and all of America, He played a good game.

when matt/natalie/ryan/adam all are gone im through with this show because i CAN NOT STAND james/chelsia/sharon/josh everything really does work out in their favor and it isnt right and CBS needs to do something about it!

Jane ~ I was gonna type some long thing about Christianity n all, but then I remembered that I haven't been to a Religion class in 5 years so...we'll just leave that part out, lol. Here it is.....Natalie's a jackass! Sorry people, but she is! She is using the Bible to justify her as the "better" person, when she is truly not. She has looked down upon people and said nasty things at times, so she is just as bad as those who go against her. And her psychobabble about a person of God and a person who does not love God can never coexist is pretty far out. The simplest teaching from Religion class that you can ever remember is "Love thy neighbor", not "Love thy neighbor only if thou art Christian, and if thy worship another God...then screw em'"

And can we stop this "good people" crap? The ones who are SO SURE they are the good people should REALLY look over themselves and then try to call themselves that again. Natalie's got about 500 stones to throw and only 4 more glass panes in that house of her's.

Jane @ 1:55 -- "good people," "evil people," etc., etc. Those terms in themselves indicate judgment, yet one of the biggest tenants of Christianity is to "judge not lest ye be judged," and it is one Biblical offense many, many Christians commit over and over and yet they truly don't seem to realize they are doing so, and would deny they are doing so if they were to be confronted with such an accusation.

However, the thing that truly causes me a great deal of disbelief in a person's avowed Christianity is their belief that their God has nothing better to do than make sure they win some type of sports event or money-based contest.

It appears that things such as our President's causing decimation of a country that doesn't believe the same things the U.S. does; our President's "Godly" war causing so much loss of young American lives (as well as the lives of innocent citizens in the country in which he has decided to wage war); worldwide hunger; homelessness (huge, even if you only consider the U.S.); and so many other things, are of little concern to God and making sure some individual wins some type of greed-based contest is so much more important.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against contests, sports events, etc. My only concern is when the participants seem to feel justified in bringing God into the equation.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to find a group of contestants who all felt that their win or loss would be predicated upon their own individual performance and not whether God finds them any particular one of them either "good" or "evil"?

hi carolyn...im a little behind @ confused sorry darlin..why does josh think sheila is playing the other side..? is it paranoia or did he catch wind of info from last night until today? hope u are well sending u big smile :) bree in co

I agree with you anon 1:55. They are like snakes in the grass. And then they try to come across all high and mighty that they are not lying and backstabbing. I hope that Nat or Ryan win POV. If we had to watch the J/C/J/S show it would be very boring. Talking about how good they are and its all about them. Ewwww. Yuck.

matt has no game...screwed everyone..expected everyone to carry him.hes a user..plus a big pussy crying like that..go out like a man..it a game..deal with it ..remember you the player..had all the ladies locked up..weres the flirting know..go cry

Ron~thank you! I cant believe the people out there (including Nat) that actually pray to God for them to win something (be it a game of some sorts or money)...talk about hypricates! My son plays high school football, granted I PRAY VERY HARD before every game (and usually before they start practice) for God to protect the players from harm. But that's it...how can someone who claims to be a christian pray to God for some personal gain? It really irks me! How many of the 7 sins is that???? lol...Jane~thank you for posting your comment...it got everyone talking and I think everyone is on the same page!Everyone who posted Re: Jane's post~ Excellent reads people! This is why i love this site!(besides Carolyn's extreme hard work and dedication for us bb addicts!)Happy Monday Y'all....~M~

I agree with alot of the posts here. I believe in Christ therefore I am a Christian. But just because I believe in Him does not entitle me to any favors vs others who may or may not believe in Him. She is just like many believers and only taking the bits and pieces of the Bible that suit her needs at the moment.

Thank you guys for your amazing and thoughtful responses about religion. I was mostly throwing it out there to start a conversation. You all exceeded my expectations. I am not Christian, but I would guess that you have represented your religion well. It is wonderful to hear people speak about religion without somehow justifying hate.

Annon 2:37 ; Karma is as Karma does. If you think that Matty, Nat, and Ryan should be furthered along with the game they are choosing to play, maybe it's because you see them as "good", instead of backstabbing people who would sooner step on you then help you up from the ground. Adam, I consider a better player than the other three. He hasn't been committal to anything:Ever! Karma is as Karma does.

i agree...chelsia is a total snot. she believes she is above everyone in the house, and so does james. sheila is in a class all her own. honestly, i actually like her at times, and other times i realize what a bipolar, crazy mess this lady might be, esp. in this game.

it just sucks that this season the strategy is like swinging from the trees, these people are all over the place. bring back dr. will, bring back evil dick, hell...bring back Chicken George (blek). this is just a lame 24/7 version of mtv's the real world.

As a Christian (Catholic) I find these people laughable. I really believe that Natalie is a good person, just a little too niave. To think that God cares whether or not you win a GAME or not is silly. Of all the terrible things going on in the world and all the suffering I think he woory's very little about a game you choice to play. I am strong in my faith and lean on it often as a personal comfort, but I never push it on other people or consider them "bad people" or other beliefs. I thinks that's Gods job. Other another note....Sheila is acting just like Allison. I DVR BBAD now just so I can fast forward threw her constant ramblings. Her voice gives me a headache and she should have thought about her son before the show.

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