I'm trying to leave Signal because I've read some of the github threads and have no further desire to use software developed by someone who interacts like *that*, but tbh I don't really know where to go.My critera aren't really that strict: It needs to be familiar enough for my boyfriend (who is used to contemporary chat-as-an-app nonsense) to use, and non-horrible enough for me to have patience for.

The most common thing that qualifies a platform for Criterion 2 rejection (meaning I hate it) is only having a desktop client made in Electron or similar.Criterion 1 rejection (my boyfriend hates it) usually comes from not having a good iOS app.

@diodelass If Matrix is out, that pretty well only leaves XMPP, which I'm a big fan of but which everyone treats as all but dead. There are mobile apps for XMPP too, but I think they don't do voice/video well (if at all).