So, if my wife employer didn't offer health insurance, then we could get it, right?

I entered in some information on that Kaiser site and wow...out of pocket expenses are not cheap!"Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $12,700. "

Ouch! Ours just went up to $2500, so not sure how this is more affordable?

I don't know what premium we are paying right now, since they just changed it, but under the ACA, we would pay:"Amount you pay for the premium:$4,112 per year"after the tax credit.

I'll have to find out what we pay per year.

I wonder how the premiums would work if I had to claim my UI too in that?

ER visits are supposed to be limited to certain things, which is totally understandable, otherwise, you would get denied coverage and you have to pay.Currently a person with limited means can go down to the ER for a cold or to seek drugs and never pay a dime. And if you don't think people go to the hospital to get drugs, then talk to a medical professional like a nurse who works on the floor.

How will this change things? What happens if the ACA runs out of pool money? Will rates be raised then?

I mean, that's how health care really got out of control before ACA...people go to hospital/ER for really minor stuff and never pay for it. Or they fake neck/back pain and get a free ride to the ER via ambulance and never pay. Talk about expensive! All that lost money plus other factors and we ended up in a mess.

Can someone please explain how this will be avoided with the ACA?

That's what's really scary for me.

and to add to that:My wife met with her boss who informed her that in Kentucky, 40 hospitals will be closing in the outer areas. (rural parts of KY) Baptist East Hospitals just gave all their LPN's 2 week notices. Norton's Hospitals are trying not to lay anyone off yet.

Sad to hear about the hospital closings. Our little town and county, Allen, in Kansas just opened its brand spanking new country hospital this month. I believe it was proposed and approved since Obama came in his first term. Hope it goes well.

I have been going to the hospital in the county south of ours. Neosho County. It's a very nice set up. All private rooms recently remodeled. Well staffed. My daughter is a RN there

Dave

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If we don't count our blessings We are just wasting our time

Out-of-Pocket ExpensesMost health insurance plans don't pay 100% of the cost for absolutely everything related to your healthcare. Your plan probably requires you to pay part of the costs, such as a copay when you visit the doctor. All costs for covered services that you pay for are called "out-of-pocket expenses" because you pay for them out of your own pocket. These costs include copays, coinsurance, and deductibles.

Out-Of-Pocket MaximumAn Out-of-Pocket maximum is the most that you should have to pay for your healthcare during a plan period (usually one year). Before reaching the out-of-pocket maximum, you pay for part of your medical care, such as copays and coinsurance. Once you have paid the amount set by the out-of-pocket maximum, your insurance will pay 100% of the allowed amount for your covered healthcare expenses, up to a preset benefit maximum. Note that ineligible expenses -- such as elective plastic surgery -- aren't counted against your out-of-pocket maximum.

So you need to estimate if you have ever even gone over your out of pocket. The increased out of pocket only would hurt if you happened to have a span with a bunch of stuff done that wasn't covered.

Also you definitely have to know what you have been paying to see if it is a better deal. It's not going to be more affordable to every one.

THAT'S what many don't realize, you can financially die from "1000 cuts" because of all the co-pays and out of pocket expenses. Few keep track of these, and this is what health Insurers count on.. you won't know the fine details... this is also why there are now "Minimum standards". Too many deceptions and junk policies where you think you're covered but then all your deductions, co-pays, and out of pocket expenses, etc kick in and you're out $1000s while you're still paying $$ for policies that minimally protect you.

I hope the American public will get educated.... I believe if they do so, they'll see how they've been scammed for years by Health Insurance companies !!

1. There have been 846,184 applications completed. Because many of these applications are for families, they cover 1,509,883 people. But only 106,185 have chosen an actual plan.

2. It's not quite right to say 106,856 have actually bought a plan. The White House is also counting people who have placed a plan in their shopping cart but haven't yet paid.

3. Ten percent of people who have been determined eligible to enroll have actually done so. The rate is higher in state-based marketplaces (21 percent) than in those run by the federal government (4 percent).

4. About 75 percent of the sign-ups come from the 14 state-based marketplaces. Those marketplaces have had about 79,000 people sign up, compared with the 27,000 people who have purchased coverage in the federal marketplace.

5. California's enrollment accounts for a full third of all sign-ups. The state has had just over 35,000 people sign up.

6. North Dakota has the fewest enrollees. Exactly 42 people have signed up.

7. Lots of shoppers on HealthCare.gov are turning to paper applications. Thirty-three percent of sign-ups in the federal exchange have been done offline. In states, that number stands at just 3 percent.

8. The "woodwork" effect is real. (that is, the millions who qualify for Medicaid who currently have none will enroll*)

9. The numbers would be a lot higher if HealthCare.gov worked as well as some state-based marketplaces.

What tickles me is that the tv news both local & national as well as the local newspapers to date has not listed the phone # to apply over the phone.

I did see the number online. Which is NOT doing the millions of folks who do not have computers or have access to one. Telling them to go to the library is ridiculous. Not all towns have them. If they do, most are closed due to the depression recession.

It's turning into a f'n circus because normally intelligent people suddenly demand instant gratification. Who in their right minds doesn't get that it's human nature to wait 'til the last minute. We saw enrollment barely move the needle in MA when that law went live, and then spike just before the deadline.

And now, too many congressional Dems are getting jelly-kneed over the policy cancellations and abandoning logic, history, and consistency all at once!

Yes, the website fukkup is inexcusable  but is getting fixed. Yes Obama oversimplified the "keep what you like" pitch and the Secretary of 'Splainin' Stuff just stuck his foot in Obama's mouth, thankyouverymuch. And no, the Admin did not expect so many states to refuse to set up their own exchanges.

But Jumpin' Jebus, peeps! It's only been a month and a half since this aircraft carrier-sized program has left the dock. Give it a little time to get the bilge pumps working and the nav systems keyed in. Reform on this scale is neither perfect nor nimble overnight.

I would like to say, A year from now, when the program is humming along and everyone is feeling the joy But if nervous Dems and mercenary Repugnicans don't get a hold of their shorts, this thing is gonna implode and we'll all be screwed again.

Through all of this Obama seems to be the only one with a spine. He's worked with a half-baked law that a disfunctional Congress legislated and handed to him, and now refuses to fix, and refuses to support in its implementation. Even with all this, the ACA offers us all a real chance to improve the quality of our lives and improve our economy. We're just to damn stupid and full of ourselves to realize it.

The news yesterday that's reported as disasterous and shows failure of the President . in the first month of ObamaCare, 500,000 people now have health insurance through a combination of the exchanges and Medicaid.

What the President deals with: The entire republican Congress and its House majority are actively sabotaging every effort in the rollout. 25 red states continue to sabotage the Medicaid program and ACA enactment and application process. Seems like the entire TV news media (with the exception of 2/3 of MSNBC) has jumped onboard with FoxNews and the republican talking points to misinform, hide the facts and pursade the public to avoid the ACA without admitting a single time that there is no alternative legislation. It's a willfull anti-government propaganda campaign that's driven by ratings, corporate & lobbyist money, and hatred of a black President. Religious charlatans are damning the notion of caring for the poor and sick, a grifter half-term governor sucks the oxygen out of the room everytime she tweets or offers "news" commentary on the ACA as slavery or some reference to Stalin. Issa and his monkey trials continues to abuse his power to lead the media by the nose. Issa continues to leak edited classified documents to the media with misleading info and it's treated as fact.

And the polls show that the propaganda is working. As soon as Democrats jump ship and defend the nonsense offered by the rightwing and voters sit the elections out due to apathy and disgust in the system, then we are screwed. As the President has always said . it's up to us.

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