So I currently have Normal Darkmist Vortex, Normal Lei Shin's Orders and Relic of Xuen, which ones would be better to use or would it have to be fight specific or just personal preference? I'm leaning more towards Darkmist Vortex and Relic of Xuen, just because the haste proc just seems really powerful atm, but I would love to hear your guys' opinion/advice on this.

I can't post a link to my armory so, just look me up, Mel on Mug'thol-US

Thanks for making another one of these threads Anaxie some seriously great stuff.

This is my first tier playing as Ret I'm holding my own in the raids I've done. I'd like to improve my damage and I'm curious if the lfr tier helm and chest should be used over my current items to obtain 4-set asap or should I wait until I get the normal versions? I'd lose a lot of haste which I currently don't even have much of right now since I'm in a rather slow progression guild. My armory is in my signature.

Any help is appreciated!

Last edited by Joeseidon; 2012-11-23 at 06:50 AM.
Reason: Cleaning it up

Balhale, is aoe supported in simulationcraft?
I imported my character (did not respec/retalent for aoe), changed number of enemies and edited priorities list (Crusader Strike -> Hammer of the righteous, Templar's Verdict -> Divine Storm) and got following results:

So simcraft has been telling me that crit is currently a tenth or two of a point ahead of mastery for my weights right now, and that its just barely worse than haste (1.26 haste vs 1.22 crit). Anyone else have this come up, and is there any reason I should pursue such a course (which also includes gemming for strength again, as its at like 3.0 compared to 1.26 haste), or ignore it and go with haste gemming and mastery > crit?

Also sidenote doing some rough napkin math of the stats... more specifically HIT items will gain with the +8 ilvl VP upgrade system. For draenei atleast you should be fine taking all normal items on list + swapping everspark H elite neck for congealed neck off Garalon + 180 Crit to cloak or if tailor just enjoy that.

Getting a heroic elite neck will be pretty impossible for a long time for most people sadly

Balhale, is aoe supported in simulationcraft?
I imported my character (did not respec/retalent for aoe), changed number of enemies and edited priorities list (Crusader Strike -> Hammer of the righteous, Templar's Verdict -> Divine Storm) and got following results:

Don't see anything unusual about that. AoE = more dmg = stats are worth more. As you hit more targets HoTR and DS become more of your dmg and so mastery is worth more compared to crit. And yes, all AoE is implemented, incl. HoTR, DS, MassExo, SotR, LH. Your link is the obvious result of a really short sim where scale factors are not very accurate.

Yeah I saw that Kaya, gratz on Lei Shi kill tho:P I'm using the normal one atm, doesn't seem to be a big difference between it and DMC card. Then again I don't have 4 set yet and with a bit of CD allignment I assume the trinket off Lei Shi will pull ahead.

So we killed the windlord again and i had a bug there i used my macro für Light's Hammer and the whole fight long i only had damage from 3 use of it. It happens that when i use it there is no ring and it has CD, but i can't see any damage incomeing and looking at recount says the same: only 2m damage cause of it

This is my macro:

#showtooltipp
/use White Tiger Gauntlets
/cast Light's Hammer

Maybe its because i use the ingi, gloves with it? Just a site note: 4er Bonus, yay D: