Speakeasy forum: Irony, Sequestration, Warn Act

The cuts coming from sequestration will result now in Federal funds paying up the gazoo with attorneys chomping at the bit over Warn Act lawsuits coming. BO guaranteed, when he told contractors to break the law before the election to not send out the layoff notices, that the Federal government would pay the tab on all lawsuits that stem from sequestration, because he was convinced he could break the Republicans and that they would cave to his demands.

liabilities...that his own party was less than enthusiastic about him. That's too bad and I agree with you that it's the spectrum opposites who are the problem and the wishy-washy moderates who never see a welcome mat from either.

wishy washy is one common intended as an insult to anyone that isn't as dogmatic like an inquistion judge or isn't as pie in the sky optimistic as a pot high hippie.

wishy washyfence sitterweak willed

If you don't have a hard line position and damn those who think different you're not worthy belong, example the current fanatic's love of the terms RINO and DINO for example. Those position? if you don't agree with all the way and hate the opposition you're no good and don't belong.

Now I'm not accusing you of that Steve, even when I disagree with your position, I've never consider you a radical or intractable.

I'm just pointing out the term used and the attitude often held by those using it.

looked at from the perspective of extremists. Personally, I refuse to identify with a party and prefer to study issues individually. It's probable that I share more agreement with one side or the other but won't stand with either as I abhor their behavior. Temper tantrums should never be tools that produce success.

I've never voted in a primary and don't know the requirements here. It makes no sense that participation requires party registration if the process is paid for with taxpayer dollars. There needs to be an independent primary which would not even mention potential candidate's party affiliation if this is true.

Just sitting saying "I told you so" when I brought this up before the November election. Those notices would have been received two days before votes were cast and BO deliberately told those contractors to break the law and guaranteed payment for any possible lawsuits that would show up (and they will in droves) because he didn't want that notice showing up and getting jammed in his face with a vote against him. So he gets a pass for telling companies to break the law in order to get elected, but the taxpayers, instead of getting the cuts that show up next week, will actually go into debt for the lawsuits that will result.

as it made no sense. If you recall, sequestration was supposed to happen Jan 1.....which meant that all those layoff notices were supposed to be sent/given out sixty days ahead of that date. That would have put notices in the hands of potential voters on November 1....two days before the election. Once it was delayed until March 1, those notices were supposed to go out by January 1 instead and didn't again. If sequestration happens on March 1, every contractor who violated the law, based on BO's word (remember he is the ultimate liar-in-office), is liable for lawsuits under the Warn Act that BO has promised to pay with taxpayer dollars in order to win his election. Obviously again, he has written out checks that his account can't cover, so whatever is 'saved' by the sequestration cuts will now be spent on paying off lawsuits instead. And he said BUSH was incompetent????????

Just sitting saying "I told you so" when I brought this up before the November election. Those notices would have been received two days before votes were cast and BO deliberately told those contractors to break the law and guaranteed payment for any possible lawsuits that would show up (and they will in droves) because he didn't want that notice showing up and getting jammed in his face with a vote against him. So he gets a pass for telling companies to break the law in order to get elected, but the taxpayers, instead of getting the cuts that show up next week, will actually go into debt for the lawsuits that will result.

I said

So they start sending out notices March 1 giving the required 60 day notice...and there are no lawsuits?

Answer these 2 questions THEN I'll respond further.

1. Are you complaining about the lawsuits that will be filed because a "60 day notice of layoffs" is required., and you think it should have been given in Nov before the election? (Yes OR No)

2. Do you think they can't give a "60 day notice of layoffs" on March 1 or at any time after that? (I guess you think they can't, so give an explanation of WHY NOT)

1. Yes, I am complaining about the lawsuits that will be filed because the taxpayer will have to pick up the tab as promised by our law-breaking, aiding and abetting President since it was his command that held those up so they didn't appear before the election as required by law....Warn Act.

2. Evidently you haven't bothered to look up the Warn Act and what it says. The 60 day notice has to be given 60 days BEFORE the actual event takes place, NOT beginning the day of the event. Giving out a notice on March 1, and having the sequestration take effect that day, breaks the Warn Act Law because the notices should have been given by January 1.

for most companies. What part of that don't you understand or haven't you watched any conservative news shows to realize that the layoffs are already starting, especially in VA? I ask about conservative news shows because the liberal news rags aren't covering that part much yet.

Sequestration March 1....layoffs March 1.......SAME EVENT DATE requires 60 days ADVANCE notice which would have been January 1.

I realize that math and reading aren't your best friends....perhaps Head Start should have been implemented in Canada in time to help you with that.

I realize that math and reading aren't your best friends....perhaps Head Start should have been implemented in Canada in time to help you with that.

This from a person that can't tell time and doesn't know what a "time zone" is. Remember that post? About me getting up at #:30 in the morning to post?....YOU didn't realize the time stamps on posts were Pacific Time Zone. Something about you assuring me that "you're not stupid" then you say something stupid.

a 'furlough' and a 'layoff' notice, JP........a furlough is where you have to take unpaid days off (such as you would have if you were put on part-time status) and can keep your job but aren't officially laid off from your job and may not ever be called back. A layoff is where you are officially laid off and have that 60 days notice to decide if you are going to look for another job or hope they call you back soon. The LAYOFF notices are what are supposed to go out 60 days PRIOR to being laid off.......and many are already getting those pink slips....and those are the notices that were supposed to go out first by November 1 and again after the delay of sequestration by January 1 and none did.

I am not wrong about this, JP.......your link refers to 'furloughs', not layoffs.

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