oh_please:Actually, (Damnit) Orton would have done just better enough to knock them out of the top 10 of next year's draft.

Which would suck if there were a QB worth taking in the top 10 this year. It's just KC's luck historically. Not to mention in the past nine months they couldn't muster enough to get into the RGIII talks and they get snubbed by Peyton.

FTFA: "I told her I would relay her message to the whole team to work harder."

Sometimes hard work doesn't make much difference. In 1933, Gabby Street, manager of the Saint Louis Cardinals decided to hold two workouts a day, because "The Yankees do it, and they're World Champions".

Pepper Martin, their star third baseman told him, "Back home on the farm in Oklahoma, we got two mules. Now you can run them mules from sunup, to sundown, and they ain't gonna win the Kentucky Derby">

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER:FTFA: "I told her I would relay her message to the whole team to work harder."

Sometimes hard work doesn't make much difference. In 1933, Gabby Street, manager of the Saint Louis Cardinals decided to hold two workouts a day, because "The Yankees do it, and they're World Champions".

Pepper Martin, their star third baseman told him, "Back home on the farm in Oklahoma, we got two mules. Now you can run them mules from sunup, to sundown, and they ain't gonna win the Kentucky Derby">

Name the mules Cassell and Quinn and it's dead on. All you have to do is watch what happened to Jacksonville last week when they got competent QB play to see how much that position makes or breaks a team in today's NFL.

Incorrigible Astronaut:UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: FTFA: "I told her I would relay her message to the whole team to work harder."

Sometimes hard work doesn't make much difference. In 1933, Gabby Street, manager of the Saint Louis Cardinals decided to hold two workouts a day, because "The Yankees do it, and they're World Champions".

Pepper Martin, their star third baseman told him, "Back home on the farm in Oklahoma, we got two mules. Now you can run them mules from sunup, to sundown, and they ain't gonna win the Kentucky Derby">

Name the mules Cassell and Quinn and it's dead on. All you have to do is watch what happened to Jacksonville last week when they got competent QB play to see how much that position makes or breaks a team in today's NFL.

And that's pretty sad when Chad Henne is a major upgrade at the QB position.

Who's going to the game tomorrow? I'm making (have made) my yearly pilgrimage to KC for Chefs/Donks so I can see a football game the way it was meant to be played- terribly, and in the cold outdoors. Who's with me?

My extra bonus is confusing the hell out of the fans seated near me by cheering for "fantasy"- Decker/Bowe/PManning/JCharles do anything, it's GO FANTASY!

/currently in the HI across the highway from the stadium//I swear they're running a combo daycare/dog kennel in the room next to mine///any other farkers holed up here? meet me in the hotel bar, my wife's trying to sleep and my incessant clicking from diablo 3 is keeping her awake

Ken VeryBigLiar:So they can relax until Houston or New England smack them around in the playoffs? AFC West titles at this point are about as valuable as Zimbabwean currency.

No they still have their playoff ranking to play for. It'll still be fun to watch the Broncos clench their division after 11 games against the shiatstain chiefs, especially since more than a few experts picked kc to run away with the division this season.

grinding_journalist:Possibly; they played a close game with Houston, and losing to the Pats@ Foxboro isn't really a surprise.

Either way, I'll be pretty happy if we get postseason Manning v Brady, act...5?

The playoffs are nice if you're like Lions fans (or us Raider fans) who would gush over getting deservedly bounced as a six seed in the first round. The Broncos already had a decent defense and got Peyton as a 2-3 year solution to get them back to a Super Bowl. And while he can win the crumbling and rebuilding squads in the West all he accomplishes against better competition is losing by two touchdowns instead of four during the playoffs.

Ken VeryBigLiar:grinding_journalist: Possibly; they played a close game with Houston, and losing to the Pats@ Foxboro isn't really a surprise.

Either way, I'll be pretty happy if we get postseason Manning v Brady, act...5?

The playoffs are nice if you're like Lions fans (or us Raider fans) who would gush over getting deservedly bounced as a six seed in the first round. The Broncos already had a decent defense and got Peyton as a 2-3 year solution to get them back to a Super Bowl. And while he can win the crumbling and rebuilding squads in the West all he accomplishes against better competition is losing by two touchdowns instead of four during the playoffs.

I...what? I don't really know what you're trying to say. I'm a Rams fan who's going to the Chiefs game tomorrow because I like football. I'd like to see Manning v Brady in the playoffs (and as such seeing two of the GOATs go head to head) because I like football.

grinding_journalist:I...what? I don't really know what you're trying to say. I'm a Rams fan who's going to the Chiefs game tomorrow because I like football. I'd like to see Manning v Brady in the playoffs (and as such seeing two of the GOATs go head to head) because I like football.

More of an indictment of Broncos management for trying to entice the fans with a 2-3 measure that doesn't appear to have put them over the top and will mean when Manning leaves they'll be left with either an unproven Osweiler or spinning the wheel again on free agent roulette. Division titles are nice, but nobody remembers them if you flame out in the playoffs.

Ken VeryBigLiar:More of an indictment of Broncos management for trying to entice the fans with a 2-3 measure that doesn't appear to have put them over the top and will mean when Manning leaves they'll be left with either an unproven Osweiler or spinning the wheel again on free agent roulette. Division titles are nice, but nobody remembers them if you flame out in the playoffs.

HA maybe that's how it works in KC but Denver is known for their fantastic treatment of guys who win them division titles. For example, Tim Tebow, who was run out of town immediately following his last trip to the playoffs....okay, bad example. How about Jake Plummer, who was benched the next season with his team still in playoff position? Oh, that's another bad example. Um...yeah. Never mind.