It turns to......Kinda smokish vapor, it goes up in one straight line, unlike weed smoke, so its very easy to chase it with a pen, and keep hitting the puddle of tweak till its brown black residue ;)

EDIT: how do you know when to hit? when smoke starts forming, jesus, hit all the smoke you can get, theres no real set time, but if you let the pipe fill up with smoke, then hit, its a better rush.

Opicid

03-07-2006, 19:29

its just one of those things that someone could show u better then tell you like shooting

BlueNakedLady

03-07-2006, 20:56

After you load the crystals, and then you burn it until it turns liquid, do you take the flame away and move the pipe side to side so it can recrystalize. Or do you keep the flame until it recrystalizes.

Ungoliath

03-07-2006, 20:58

I like to melt and roll, but its really to each his own.

BlueNakedLady

03-07-2006, 21:22

I like to melt and roll, but its really to each his own.

ok, so let me clarify this, you DONT have to apply flame after it turns to liquid for it to recrystalize?

motiv311

30-09-2006, 11:03

no, when its a liquid, it has become that way because you have basically melted it down.... Now what you want to do is you will see some smoke come out as you "liquify it" ... then blow into the pizo and get all that first initial smoke out.......
The first smoke generated when melting down is much more toxic and harsh then your lungs will appreciate.

ok then, you will see the hot liquid moving around the bottom of your pipe. Lick your finger and quickly touch the part of the "bulb" where the liquid is resting. It should instantly recrystalize. It is now ready for smoking, ... actually, you might want to wipe off the bottle of your bulb because your finger could leave grease on the outside, which will burn and turn your pipe black.
Don't hold the vapor in too long, its really bad for your lungs.

Bitstorm

30-09-2006, 11:37

I've noticed that when i use a jet lighter i get a much stronger hit.

When using a normal lighter i had a good size go, using the tip of the flame for full heat etc. and thought, wow that wasn't like the first time i tried...

Then i found my jet and from the same stuff, same amount got that huge dopamine rush.

Both times everything burnt away, not really too much time difference as to how long each one took as well.
Do the higher temperatures of a jet lighter release more/or something? i know it works would just love an explanation or theory tho'.

Bitstorm

30-09-2006, 11:42

"Don't use one of those fancy shmancy torch lighters unless you know what you're doing. They burn too hot, and will destroy your drugs if you're not careful. This is not good, you want to just vaporize them and suck them into your lungs. Not burn them up into nothing."
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=133903&highlight=Smoking+meth

Don't know why anyone would wanna smoke this stuff, it has such a high bioavailability and lasts longer orally, you get a lot more out of it that way (WAY fucking higher). Plus you don't fuck up your lungs.

www.sixthseal.com used to have some great photos and videos of how to smoke meth, but I think he took them all down..

geetered

19-10-2006, 10:21

do a search on hints and tips for meth smokers in OD... Redhaze, had a wonderful thread that pretty much covered everything, snort a line and read all 20 pages and then you should be able to do it the right way.

geetered

19-10-2006, 10:22

Don't know why anyone would wanna smoke this stuff, it has such a high bioavailability and lasts longer orally, you get a lot more out of it that way (WAY fucking higher). Plus you don't fuck up your lungs.

www.sixthseal.com used to have some great photos and videos of how to smoke meth, but I think he took them all down..

that dumb ass asian guy, had some shitty pipes rigged up and on that one video he put the flame all the way to the bowl and kept it there which isnt right

motiv311

19-10-2006, 10:30

god, if i had some shit I would put together a tape, and show you some magic...

Thankfully I don't have any, and it wouldnt matter anyway, because some people just Cant do it!

rocklobster

19-10-2006, 16:57

Have you not seen the movie "Spun"?

I don't see why you'd want to smoke meth....
Because it feels good. Same reason why people want to do other drugs.

rocklobster

19-10-2006, 16:58

Don't know why anyone would wanna smoke this stuff, it has such a high bioavailability and lasts longer orally, you get a lot more out of it that way (WAY fucking higher). Plus you don't fuck up your lungs.
The rate of change of plasma levels are much greater, so the rush is there, and it is much more intense and much more pleasant than oral or nasal routes of administration.

Afterm4th

19-10-2006, 21:09

I recomend you dont smoke meth at all, but that's just me..

most people are all into special pipes and shit. When I used to smoke meth I just got a clear lightbulb and broke it and used a shard from the light bulb.

Heated the bottem of the lightbulb and smoked points at a time.

Meth is gay tho

Beagle

21-10-2006, 12:59

ahhh, good ol' meth.

First of all, don't do it because it'll ruin your life.

Now that that's out of the way, and you're prepared to do it regardless of what anyone says....

You throw it into your pipe. Heat it until it becomes a liquid. Once it's a liquid pull the flame away a little bit, but not completely. It'll begin smoking consistently if you do this properly. Begin inhaling at a normal rate. About 5-10 seconds before you can't inhale anymore, pull the flame away. Finish sucking.

Enjoy the bliss. :)

Kaje333

21-10-2006, 13:03

just punch yourself in the throat until you pass out.

meth is trash

spunnybunny

07-06-2007, 06:06

After you load the crystals, and then you burn it until it turns liquid, do you take the flame away and move the pipe side to side so it can recrystalize. Or do you keep the flame until it recrystalizes.

how howwwwww HOW would holding heat/the flame under the bowl make it recrystalize? .. honestly? it just surprises me that people think that... how often does heat make something (think of ice melting on a hot day.. i dont think it willl turn back into ice if it stays hot..

i say that with love :). smoking shit isn't easy to learn... im not an expert but i just know what worked for me.

spunnybunny

07-06-2007, 06:12

no, when its a liquid, it has become that way because you have basically melted it down.... Now what you want to do is you will see some smoke come out as you "liquify it" ... then blow into the pizo and get all that first initial smoke out.......
The first smoke generated when melting down is much more toxic and harsh then your lungs will appreciate.

ok then, you will see the hot liquid moving around the bottom of your pipe. Lick your finger and quickly touch the part of the "bulb" where the liquid is resting. It should instantly recrystalize. It is now ready for smoking, ... actually, you might want to wipe off the bottle of your bulb because your finger could leave grease on the outside, which will burn and turn your pipe black.
Don't hold the vapor in too long, its really bad for your lungs.
eh.. lick ur finger and put it on the piece of glass that just had a flame held under it.. is a good way to break a pipe. (think.. lick. sizzle. OWWWWW... let go of the pipe. nice little bowl is on the floor of wherever it is u decide to smoke..)

i say, a paper towel is a wonderful thing. and i dono i dont htink its a good idea to force it to recrystalize.. just be patient, cracky mccracker! do you really wanna be the guy who cant even let their shit recrystalize cus they need . one.. more.. Hit. WOAH. !

anyway, just wipe the black under the pipe after youi hit it (or every other hit.. or however much you think is needed?) .. I was always told that if the bowl turned black and i HAD to wipe it after every hit.. im burning it and also just holding the pipe too damn close.

spunnybunny

07-06-2007, 06:22

how howwwwww HOW would holding heat/the flame under the bowl make it recrystalize? .. honestly? it just surprises me that people think that... how often does heat make something (think of ice melting on a hot day.. i dont think it willl turn back into ice if it stays hot..

i say that with love :). smoking shit isn't easy to learn... im not an expert but i just know what worked for me.
im going to add...

once you learn HOW to do it on your OWN.. you might find urself in a bad place..
it always kinda weirded me out when people who were smoking WITH me (and helping me smoke it since I didn;t know how... ) would say i shouldn't learn how to smoke ... but when u learn how to do it on ur own, you CAN do it on ur own.. be caaaareful .

schmangle

08-06-2007, 03:09

"keep hitting the puddle of tweak till its brown black residue"

the above worries me - smoking off foil i land up with nothing or a tiny patch of whitish nothingness. I can't remember anybody I know (smoking out of lightbulb, foil or glass pipe, landing up with black stuff) If you're getting black residue, isn't your meth rather crap or you're smoking it wrong? I think I would look for new source...

Warning: this post goes on for ever and ever, non-meth induced, stop here if you're not interested in the joys of tinfoil:
Much to everyone's horror, i prefer to smoke off tinfoil - i break every glass pipe within 30 minutes (many many years ago was a crackhead and broke all those as well, finally used part of a steel car antenna for years quite happily) and just never got the hang of the lightbulb. Spent my time fiddling it around, and trying to concentrate on moving lightbulb and lighter and inhaling and seeing what was going on inside lightbulb just proved too much. And I always felt like I was inhaling too much air and too little meth.

And cleaning the fucking thing, and worrying its going to crack with your precious meth inside, oh bugger that, i gave up.

If you know what you're doing with tinfoil, you don't waste a speck or molecule of smoke. (In the beginning I lost a fair amount - once you learn how long to keep the lighter going, how to move it down the foil, the angle to hold the foil, how much smoke you can fit in your lungs in one hit etc etc, you lose nothing - unless you try to be greedy, watching all that lovely smoke disappearing into air and not your lungs is always a good lesson =D ).

I use a double layer (if the thin foil), a single layer if the heavy duty stuff, shiny side up, ie away from lighter). Hmm, foil maybe 20 cm long, 10 or 15 cm wide, whatever you feel comfortable with, its the U thats important.

I turn over at the edges so its firm to hold, arched down in a U shape but never with an actual indentation in the middle, foil as smooth and wrinkle/scratch free as possible, held at about a 45% angle down, low, low lighter flame never touching foil.

Sixthseal had an amazing page about making a needle lighter so the flame would be really small. Well, after much embarassment at pharmacy explaining why I needed 2 needles of specific thickness, I got home, followed all steps exactly and a) Flames shot out the bottom of the needle and b) entire lighter exploded. End of needle lighter experiment.

I exhale everything in my lungs the minute I see crystal turning into liquid. Your liquid should start to run downhill and smoke should start rising. Start inhaling and keep inhaling as the liquid and your lighter move down the foil simultaneously. If your crystal doesn't run within 2 or 3 secs, stop. No running, you are wasting (now this is pure hearsay from my old dealer, but I imagine if it doesn't run, you're burning rather than vaporizing... feel free to correct and tell me i'm an idiot, but this is where i have got closest to brown and black of Ungoliath - you get a hit, but you lose a huge amount.

You move the lighter down as the liquid runs down, I think I keep the lighter below the liquid, but can't quite remember and have no testing mechanisms now :( .

Once it runs, follow that smoke, you don't actually have to do much, just breathe in, and the smoke follows a straight line into your pipe/smoking device. You can actually keep the pipe quite a distance from the foil and crystal. Kill the lighter BEFORE your lungs are full, as there will still be more smoke coming, a lot if you do it right - this was for me the hardest part to learn, when to stop, I still always overestimate my lung power. Also, if it stops running, kill the lighter immediately.

I love chasing that little line down the foil. Down you go, turn around, down you go again and again....

And you don't have to worry about cleaning anything. If you do it right, there should be no brown or black crap on the foil, just a very small circular little white outline of an empty puddle. At that stage, just chuck tinfoil out and make new one. Or you can just wipe on very flat surface with toilet paper. But making new foil is better.

And no, I don't believe you get any shit from smoking off tinfoil. And its far easier to carry tinfoil around than than a lightbulb... And remember, you need at least 3, preferably 6 or more, lighters - unless you're some pro who smokes every day and you invest in snazzy lighter...

But, to get perfect at this method takes practice and preferably on your own or you have idiots yelling - move the lighter up, move it down, move the foil up, move the foil down, move yourself etc. Fuck that. Learn on your own after watching other people do it - and you learn really fast. I smoked with my ex for 2 years and never really got the hang of it, smoked on my own once and got it perfect second time.

To Nuke: I smoke rather than mix with water because the rush and high is SO good, most euphoric drug for me - never tried it orally or nasally, cos always worried it won't be as good as smoking. Also cos its damn fun - I feel a sense of accomplishment when I get that little line to run all the way down, smooth as hell.

With all above said, i'd STRONGLY recommend NOT doing it. Out of all my friends who started doing it (smoking), lets say around 20, i was the only one who didn't get addicted. There's a thread somewhere about some people maybe having different brain structures and therefore being able to love meth but not ever getting addicted. Other than crack, i'd say it has the absolute highest addiction potential (from observance of others).

Also, its one of the empty drugs, it does nothing in terms of opening / freeing up your brain, you learn nothing from it. It really fucks up your body, your teeth, and with extended use, your mind. It does make you feel DAMN good, and your house will be really clean. But is it worth the risk of becoming horribly addicted? Absolutely not. A psychedelic and even e will give you a far more spiritually and mentally fulfilling experience that will actually teach you something, without the high addiction potential. I haven't learnt a thing off meth - except the best cleaner to use for the bath tub and how many valiums I need to take to get to sleep.

I do it about 4 times a year, generally in 2 or 3 day stints. And I've done this for 10 plus years. But I'm one of the very very few lucky ones. Unless you're a really strong person, stay away, it does completely fuck up most people.

Gaaah, after writing that huge missive above, not on meth, although it sounds completely meth-induced, good god, i'm dying for some %) ....

AdOgG0911

09-06-2007, 02:47

I agree with schmangle , use foil not a pipe. Here is the Cliffs Notes version of how to do it. Tear 6 inches of foil offa the roll and fold it in half. Then fold it into a bridge that looks like this:
...__
_|.. |_ (ignore the ... thats just to make the ascii show up right, stupid fucking thing removes blank spaces)

Meth goes on top of the bridge, lighter goes under it. Use a very low flame and don't touch the foil with the lighter. You want to vaporize it, not burn it, so as soon as you see the smoke remove the flame. Suck down the smoke and hold it as long as you can. The meth will cool and recrystalize and you can then hit it again.

Sandbag

09-06-2007, 02:54

Pipes>foil. How many of you dragon-chasers can rock enough dope in your foil to last you for a day the put it in your pocket which allows you to smoke more by simply pulling it out and applying heat? Convenience+efficiency made pipes/lokes/pizzles/bubbles/dicks/whatever-the-fuck-your-area-calls-a-meth-pipe my favorite way to smoke meth. Then I found needles and that makes pipes look like a complete waste of shards.

AdOgG0911

09-06-2007, 03:05

Pipes>foil. How many of you dragon-chasers can rock enough dope in your foil to last you for a day the put it in your pocket which allows you to smoke more by simply pulling it out and applying heat? Convenience+efficiency made pipes/lokes/pizzles/bubbles/dicks/whatever-the-fuck-your-area-calls-a-meth-pipe my favorite way to smoke meth. Then I found needles and that makes pipes look like a complete waste of shards.

In my experience pipes for smoking meth seem to break very easily. And you could easily melt a days worth of meth on the foil bridge, and then fold it up flat an take it with you in your pocket with no worries of broken glass. It takes all of 3 seconds to set the foil back up. The only time I see the pipe being better is if you want to smoke it while you are actually driving.