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Re: Its been hell for George Hill

I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing GH.....I just thought that he could have helped pay for his train ride home cuz the cost is so minimal to someone like him. I'm not saying that his initial gesture wasn't enough.....or that he should have.....I'm just saying that it would have been a nice gesture on top of an already nice gesture.

What if someone from a school of business or management school were to ask, How did you do this? How did you get the Pacers turned around? Is there a general approach you've taken that can be summarized?

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

You can only fit so much in 140 characters... If George had tweeted that he paid for his ticket home, he would be getting ripped for not feeding the guy.

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You can only fit so much in 140 characters... If George had tweeted that he paid for his ticket home, he would be getting ripped for not feeding the guy.

Based off of the information that was presented to me....I just commented that I am surprised that GH didn't buy the guy a train ticket home. Nothing more...nothing less. If he did but didn't tweet it....great....but I'm not criticizing GH or anything.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

Based off of the information that was presented to me....I just commented that I am surprised that GH didn't buy the guy a train ticket home. Nothing more...nothing less. If he did but didn't tweet it....great....but I'm not criticizing GH or anything.

Right, and there was nothing about a train ticket...so you commented based on nothing.

I find it hard to imagine that he invited a random stranger up to his room for dinner because he couldn't get home, and then did not get him home.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

Right, and there was nothing about a train ticket...so you commented based on nothing.

I find it hard to imagine that he invited a random stranger up to his room for dinner because he couldn't get home, and then did not get him home.

You are right, there was no mention of GH buying the guy a ticket. It is therefore entirely possible that GH could have simply bought him a ticket after he brought him up to eat something.

But why is it that it is not entirely possible that the opposite ( where GH didn't buy him a train ticket ) could have happened?

You assume that he did ( cuz I can see that GH could be that type of guy ) while I assume that he didn't ( cuz GH simply didn't tweet or commented that he did or did not and therefore my initial comment ). Based off of the given information, neither of us are right or wrong in this.

To be clear ( and I have no idea why I feel like I have to defend myself ), as I said before....I don't feel that I am saying anything negative about GH in the first place. I can see that such a comment ( if it was by others on the board that don't particularly like GH ) can be taken and viewed as a negative comment....but I assure you, that was not the intent of my initial post.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

You are right, there was no mention of GH buying the guy a ticket. It is therefore entirely possible that GH could have simply bought him a ticket after he brought him up to eat something.

But why is it that it is not entirely possible that the opposite ( where GH didn't buy him a train ticket ) could have happened?

You assume that he did ( cuz I can see that GH could be that type of guy ) while I assume that he didn't ( cuz GH simply didn't tweet or commented that he did or did not and therefore my initial comment ). Based off of the given information, neither of us are right or wrong in this.

To be clear ( and I have no idea why I feel like I have to defend myself ), as I said before....I don't feel that I am saying anything negative about GH in the first place. I can see that such a comment ( if it was by others on the board that don't particularly like GH ) can be taken and viewed as a negative comment....but I assure you, that was not the intent of my initial post.

You don't have to defend yourself and you were not overly negative. People here can be sensitive. Some are reacting as if you compared George Hill to Jeffrey Dahmer.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

You don't have to defend yourself and you were not overly negative. People here can be sensitive. Some are reacting as if you compared George Hill to Jeffrey Dahmer.

No, what people are reacting to is that it seems like GHill does something nice and the first reaction is "why didn't he do something nicer?" instead of "what a good guy."

While "Why didn't he do something nicer?" isn't saying he's bad, it IS saying he isn't living up to some expectation, and the irony is that it seems like even when there shouldn't be an expectation he's expected to live up to one.

It's a very valid observation given the constant discussion of him on PD.

BillS

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

Starting to wonder if I'm in some type of coma and this is a dream. Reading this last page and subsequently thinking to myself that people are going this far in depth over something so small is highly entertaining to say the least.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

Starting to wonder if I'm in some type of coma and this is a dream. Reading this last page and subsequently thinking to myself that people are going this far in depth over something so small is highly entertaining to say the least.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

I am actually a George Hill fan. Not a huge one like that guy. But I am so glad he is running the point over Darren Collison, TJ Ford and even Jarrett Jack. But seriously. George will think he's in hell this coming season without Paul and Lance around. He will have to contend with MUCH tighter defense and longer guys than the opposing PG because as perhaps our best guard he will be called on to shoot and score a lot. I don't mean to diminish George as a player. He is a solid all-around combo guard and a great addition to this team. But he will be a target this coming year and contend with tougher defense than he has ever faced in his life.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

I am actually a George Hill fan. Not a huge one like that guy. But I am so glad he is running the point over Darren Collison, TJ Ford and even Jarrett Jack. But seriously. George will think he's in hell this coming season without Paul and Lance around. He will have to contend with MUCH tighter defense and longer guys than the opposing PG because as perhaps our best guard he will be called on to shoot and score a lot. I don't mean to diminish George as a player. He is a solid all-around combo guard and a great addition to this team. But he will be a target this coming year and contend with tougher defense than he has ever faced in his life.

I agree. If I was the other team, George Hill would be facing a ton of double teams and half-court pressure defense. There's no Stephenson or George to share the ball-handling duties with or bail him out if he gets trapped in the backcourt. Personally, I don't have that much faith in Stuckey, CJ Miles, or S. Hill as his running mates. However, they could still surprise me this season.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

I agree. If I was the other team, George Hill would be facing a ton of double teams and half-court pressure defense. There's no Stephenson or George to share the ball-handling duties with or bail him out if he gets trapped in the backcourt. Personally, I don't have that much faith in Stuckey, CJ Miles, or S. Hill as his running mates. However, they could still surprise me this season.

Re: Its been hell for George Hill

I think Stuckey or CJ Watson will help him but I don't have much confidence in Miles or SHill handling the ball.

Maybe Copeland could help.

Stuckey has the toughness to handle the ball without getting too dominated physically. He may actually prove to be an important pickup. I think he's being under-rated, although I would agree he is a poor fit for our team.