Level Global Has An Interesting Definition Of The Word “Integrity,” Notion Of The Age At Which Person Can Still Be Put In A “Time Out”

As we reported earlier, David Ganek’s Level Global, one of three firms to be raided by the FBI last November as part of their insider trading investigation, is shutting down (prior to that, we shared that the firm had received $750 million in redemption requests and that potential liquidation had been discussed with investors). This is of course a sad turn of event for all the hardworking employees at the firm and we wish them only the best in the future. On that note, I thought I’d cheer everyone up, or at least attempt to distract them, with a little story about a conversation I had with representatives of the firm several days ago.

To be clear, this story isn’t about back-patting ourselves for strongly suspecting (on account of being explicitly told) three weeks ago that Level Global was going to be shutting down but rather one we think adds a little more color to the firm’s thinking and spotlights one of it’s delightful characters. Please note: I never have and never will post conversations I have with people unless they’re of topical interest, like the below, and, more importantly, the person doesn’t care to tell me it’s off the record until after he berates me and lies through his teeth.

Having spoken with Level Global investors and other sources quite close to the situation, I called up the fund to let them know I was working on an item that would center around them contemplating shutting down. I had previously spoken with Level on two prior occasions but this was the first time I had verbatim quotes from their mouths to investors’ ears re: a potential 3/31 liquidation.

My call was with several Level executives, including their General Counsel and COO, who did most of the talking. Things started out friendly enough- I told him that I knew about the $750 million in redemptions so far and that the phrase “all options are on the table” had been used repeatedly. Here’s a transcript of our chat.

COO: No decision has been made at all. There’s no story here. All options *are* always on the table for every hedge fund.

BL: Hmm, I’m not necessarily sure that’s true.

COO: Yes, it is. At any given time any hedge fund is reviewing all their options.

BL: So if I called up any random hedge fund, who was not raided by the FBI had not received a three quarters of a billion in redemptions and asked “how’s business?” you’re saying they would tell me “Well we’re either going to keep going or shut the place down; all options are on the table?”

COO: Yes.

BL: Well, okay, agree to disagree. Anyway, if I do the story, just to check, do you want me to quote you as the COO or a spokesperson? Or would you like to say you declined to comment?

COO: [Pause] Wait, what? You’re doing a story?

BL: Yes, that’s what I said earlier.

COO: [Tone gets quite a bit more hostile at this point] Maybe I wasn’t being direct enough with you before– DO NOT DO A STORY. It is purely based on speculation- WRONG speculation- and it is NOT TRUE. You’re going to embarrass yourself if you print this.

BL: Well I’m sorry but I have been speaking with your investors and other people who know the firm, and they’re telling me otherwise.

COO: [Voice you might use when speaking to a naughty child or bad dog] Our investors, I don’t know what they’re getting that from or why they’re telling you that- IT’S NOT TRUE and you CAN-NOT write that. YOU WILL LOOK STUPID IF YOU WRITE THIS.

BL: You yourself have told me “all options are on the table”– meaning one of the options is closing. So how is it not true that you’re contemplating closing? I’m using your own words. And it’s not clear that a hedge fund would pose a “liquidation” scenario on a call with investors unless it wasn’t a possibility.

COO: Now you listen to me- I tried to talk to you like a human being. You have no integrity.

BL: Actually I think I have a lot of integrity, which is why I called you to try and get the entire story, rather than just running it.

COO: [Screaming at this point] If you run this story you will have no integrity. You are putting 65 people’s livelihoods at risk. SIXTY-FIVE PEOPLE. You know what? I want to speak to your boss.

BL: You’re speaking to her.

COO: What do you mean, you have no boss?

BL: I have a boss, but he’s on the business side- editorial is at my discretion.

COO: Well you tell that boss that if you run this I’m going to take legal action and you need to be dealt with.

BL: Alright I’ll tell him that but just so you know, I don’t actually appreciate being spoken to like a 5 year-old.

COO: I don’t care- you’re acting like a five year-old. A five year-old who needs a time out.

BL: I’ll pass that on to my parents. Is there anything else you’d like to tell me?

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BL: So if I called up any random hedge fund, who was not raided by the FBI had not received a quarter billion in redemptions and asked “how’s business?” you’re saying they would tell me “Well we’re either going to keep going or shut the place down; all options are on the table?”

JB – ALWAYS said and recently (a few days ago – no shit) said do not speak with the press. We respected and believed that… Reading this and knowing I was just let go with 3 months salary (not severance) after working there for 5+ years makes me so angry. It’s exactly how he talks too. He’s a lawyer would you believe too?

Work with me…. Greg was the plagiarizing jerk who ripped off Bess a while ago and threatened to out a commentator (unless I am confusing him?)…not John Carney…. I was referring to Kuevo? Or the like…I don’t recall his name, but also could not touch Bess’ style and was mocked until he broke and left.

Work with me…. Greg was the plagiarizing jerk who ripped off Bess a while ago and threatened to out a commentator (unless I am confusing him?)…not John Carney…. I was referring to Kuevo? Or the like…I don’t recall his name, but also could not touch Bess’ style and was mocked until he broke and left.

Work with me…. Greg was the plagiarizing jerk who ripped off Bess a while ago and threatened to out a commentator (unless I am confusing him?)…not John Carney…. I was referring to Kuevo? Or the like…I don’t recall his name, but also could not touch Bess’ style and was mocked until he broke and left.

Work with me…. Greg was the plagiarizing jerk who ripped off Bess a while ago and threatened to out a commentator (unless I am confusing him?)…not John Carney…. I was referring to Kuevo? Or the like…I don’t recall his name, but also could not touch Bess’ style and was mocked until he broke and left.

Bess: Can I ask you a few questions?
COO: You’re being totally unreasonable.
Bess: Are you shutting down?
COO: Your totally rude.
Bess: Is the 750 m dollar too low?
COO: As many as 64 people will have to find new jobs because of you. Beeeeaaaach!
Bess: Que?

Bess: Can I ask you a few questions?
COO: You’re being totally unreasonable.
Bess: Are you shutting down?
COO: Your totally rude.
Bess: Is the 750 m dollar too low?
COO: As many as 64 people will have to find new jobs because of you. Beeeeaaaach!
Bess: Que?

Bess: Can I ask you a few questions?
COO: You’re being totally unreasonable.
Bess: Are you shutting down?
COO: Your totally rude.
Bess: Is the 750 m dollar too low?
COO: As many as 64 people will have to find new jobs because of you. Beeeeaaaach!
Bess: Que?

If he didn’t think that a writer for “A Wall Street Tabloid” was calling in regards to writing a story, what did that genius think that said writer was calling for, to check on her fictitious investment in the fund? COOs typically oversee compliance or compliance officers, right? No wonder they are toast.

If he didn’t think that a writer for “A Wall Street Tabloid” was calling in regards to writing a story, what did that genius think that said writer was calling for, to check on her fictitious investment in the fund? COOs typically oversee compliance or compliance officers, right? No wonder they are toast.

If he didn’t think that a writer for “A Wall Street Tabloid” was calling in regards to writing a story, what did that genius think that said writer was calling for, to check on her fictitious investment in the fund? COOs typically oversee compliance or compliance officers, right? No wonder they are toast.

I don’t see how this in anyway constitutes news. And your bar for “topical interest” is pretty low. While hostile interviews are interesting cocktail talk, they have no place in the media. This comes across as retaliatory and childish. Way to drop to his level. I am sure the SEC investigations weren’t enough to make the rest of his career difficult.

We don’t need your kind around here. The COO is obviously under tremendous strain but could have turned Bess’ article into a sympathetic, anti-SEC, and apologetic essay. All he had to say is “this is totally unfair to 64 out of 65 of us who work here and a small percentage of our clients have decided to exit and hopefully they will come back after this is settled. Meanwhile we are hunkered down and working hard for the remaining clients. By the way, Bess, your site is really funny.”

“Lack of professionalism” from the guy that used “trannie fucked.” Touche.

I don’t know what your COO does but mine isn’t involved in the research process. Also, I am guessing that if there is 65 people there, that there are only a few bad eggs. But I only guessing (just like you are). Blame him for a lack of oversight, or turning a blind eye but I live in a country where your innocent until proven guilty. And I don’t really see any proof.

Well, he certainly seems to lack judgment if the above exchange is his idea of how to properly deal with enquiries from the press.

And as for his being under stress: seems to me that if your title has the word “Chief” in it, and your paycheck is scaled accordingly, you should be expected to display a degree of sang froid in dealing with unpleasant situations.

Way to use a straw man argument in your first sentence. You are aware, right, that I’m not a COO of a hedge fund which has numerous stakeholders?

Yes you are correct in that we are innocent until proven guilty. However, the SEC is pretty dumb and if they are snooping around your shit, chances are you did something. So the public really doesn’t have any sympathy for these cases.

well, dealbreaker does more than report news- it often provides commentary and color on the industry’s participants- which is precisely what this story does. and it’s based on HUGE news (learn the definition of topical), which would be big in HF land even if it wasn’t related to the massive insider trading probe. and last I checked it wasn’t Bess’s job to worry if she was making things difficult for a lying asshole.

bess was kind enough to not even put his name on this, so it will not show up in a google search by potential employers. and if people dont think it’s a big deal, then they won’t hold it against him. others, who think it’s a window into his character will, and maybe they should.

I don’t see how this in anyway constitutes news. And your bar for “topical interest” is pretty low. While hostile interviews are interesting cocktail talk, they have no place in the media. This comes across as retaliatory and childish. Way to drop to his level. I am sure the SEC investigations weren’t enough to make the rest of his career difficult.

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Well played, BS. It’s hard enough to be witty, relevant and funny in articles; but to quip him (real-time) into a fury of irrational threats whilst catching him in lies….true talent. Total girl-crush today…

Just read the footnote. Bess, step down off your soapbox. Based on the transcript of the call, i’m sure you acted like an obnoxious journalist filled with sarcasm and glee at others’ misfortune. Not saying he was right to get fired up, but i’m sure it was EXACTLY your intention to fire him up and get the response you got. You are the editor of a web site designed explicitly to make fun of, undercut and float rumors about the people like those that run Level Global. Don’t act all insulted when they respond.
By the way, your journalistic reporting of the sanchez/kuger situation was pulitzer worthy. stay classy DB.

“You are the editor of a web site designed explicitly to make fun of, undercut and float rumors about the people like those that run Level Global. ”

except that I received numerous rumors that LG was shutting down and instead of simply floating them, I called LG to get their side of the story and then wrote measured article that did not include rumors, only confirmed facts.

As one of the few people on the site who has actually worked with Bess from the financial side, I can tell you that she’s fair. She called me once on rumors that a client of mine was going under. Rumors weren’t true. My client did a 5 minute background call with her, told her the fund was fine and explained why. The story never ran. Look, it’s not that fucking hard. If I had a million bucks to invest, I’m not giving it to someone who can’t handle being confronted by a journalist without having the emotional reaction of a two-year-old who had his blankie taken away.

Real live hedge fund manager here. Known Bess for several years. You have not one iota of an idea about what you’re talking about. She is one of the fairest, most responsible, ethical people I’ve met in this business and puts other journalists to shame. If you’ve ever actually dealt with her (rather than simply reading her work and pretending to know who she is), you’d be aware that she is good-natured and extremely gracious. As for absurd, know-nothing speculation on your part that she takes “glee in others’ misfortune,” I can tell you with certainty she takes none whatsoever. It’s sad that’s the only way you can reconcile this story in your mind.

For all you douchebags jumping on Bess for posting this interview, there is a phrase in the English language called “no comment.” Whether you are a 17 yr old quarterback banger or the COO of a company, you are able to use that phrase and walk away/hang up the phone.

I am not sure why BL even posted this — is it to “prove” that she scooped the story 2 days before LG mailed the letter to investors? Normally, I applaud your moxie, journalistic fortitude, ETHICS…..but not in this case, Bess.

Also, all the blather about “hearing from investors” …..come on, Hedge Fund investors that read DB are not the sophisticated, iWEALTHY individuals, sheikh,s minor royalty w/a couple hundred million in AUM allocated. Chances are, the “investors” were junior analysts at FOFs, you know the ones who plug numbers into spreadsheets, listen in on conference calls, consider themselves “buy-siders” although they have NEVER worked in the underlying financial markets, and not individual investors with their own capital at risk because they WOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT to protect their own investments or anyone else who believed in the sanctity of FIDUCIARY responsibility would have also done so. They would have respected the trust, duty and care their clients had vested in their firms and not blabbed the story to a gossip rag f(albeit top-notch) for Pete’s sake. All of these peons who feel the need to run their mouths better re-examine whose $ is on the table because it most certainly is not theirs. They do their clients a huge dis-service (you know, the ones who pay their firm a management fee, by the possible front running of trades, poor execution, etc.) by thinking they are leaking for some Watergate type of event.

They ought to come clean, at least to themselves, by asking if they could have harmed the interests of their clients.

I cannot comment munch on the COO otherwise than it seemed like he panicked wheh ne should have gone the “no comment” route.

A classy lady would not have felt the need to reveal to DB that she had really “scooped” the story, but was too classy at the time to reveal, but now felt the need to get the vendetta on. After all, the junior analyst who leaked the manager’s letter should be fired because he violated both the manager’s trust (LG) and more importantly that of his underlying client because by accepting a salary that is what the contract with the client dictates — to hold their interest above his own (notoriety by leaking a letter to a website.)

You sound like a reasonable guy. No, you really do. I like that. Good luck.

Tomorrow I will seek to crack the code you seem to have placed within your diatribe. I notice some words are in all caps and some are not. I think I may be on to something big. I just don’t know.
One thing is for sure, dis guy is on da case.

On the serious side, a love poem. I try to play a few comical commenter parts on this site, which the regulars here would recognize if I were to reveal them (not the UBS sucks guy, but props to him/her, keep living the dream). I’ve even contributed an innocuous news story or two. Commenting is a pain in the ass to do, because I have to go through an IT mousetrap to maintain IP anonymity on my side and on dealbreaker’s side. So why do it? Because I LOVE BESS LEVIN. She’s doing important work. During some painful days in the last few years, this website was the only thing that could make me smile. And if I can make this site just a little better and make her more successful by being a snarky ass, I will do it. My wife regards my religious devotion to Bess with amusement. Keep doing what you do, Bess Levin. There is an army out there, from 23 year old frat-guy wise-ass analysts to managing directors at top 25 hedge funds, who will support you in whatever endeavor you pursue.

I personally know the guy featured in this interview and he is one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered and this is pretty much how he speaks to everyone on a daily basis. It's about time it comes back to bite him. Terrible human being. Deserves everything that is coming to him right now. Karma.

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