New report slams Xbox One and PS4 power consumption: Inefficiencies still abound

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When the first preliminary report on next-generation console energy use came out in December, we highlighted the fact that Sony and Microsoft might both be able to substantially improve their performance in short order. Fast forward five months, and the National Resources Defense Council has released an updated version of its report with more historical information and a full set of estimates for how much power each console consumes. Is Microsoft still the power-hungry elephant in the room?

In a word, yes. But there’s some very interesting additional information on why that’s so — and some baffling issues with current console power consumption. First, let’s look at the table for the PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U:

This chart shows the power consumption of all three consoles in their various operating modes. The PS4 is obviously far head of the Xbox One in all categories — so why is MS losing the annual power consumption race? Two reasons: First, it draws almost 2x the power of the PS4 in standby mode, which is where the consoles will spend the vast majority of their time. Second, if operated in the MS-recommended TV mode, it means you’re powering up the Xbox One console just to watch television. In that mode, the console chews through 72W of power.

The NRDC is, I think, right to point a finger at just how much power these consoles use for simple tasks — but is it a function of AMD’s engineering? Our tests suggest not. We’ve got an A4-5000 Kabini whitebook on-hand from AMD — this is a system that runs a custom BIOS and doesn’t appear to be particularly aggressively power-optimized. It also includes a 1920×1080 screen, so our wall power measurements include the cost of driving the display as well. Total power consumption for the entire laptop while decoding H.264 1080p video? About 15W with the display at maximum brightness and 11W with the display at half brightness.

While the Xbox One and PS4 obviously contain a great deal of custom logic and much larger GPUs, even the Wii U draws more than 2x the power of our mobile Kabini. If we assume a headless A4-5000 could decode H.264 at 7-8W, the new consoles are drawing 4x – 10x as much power to handle essentially the same task.

On the other hand, there’s still reason to be optimistic. The chart below shows how game console power consumption has tended to improve over each generation as new console flavors are released.

Note that both the PS4 and Xbox One come in well below the launch consoles for the PS3 and Xbox 360. There’s room for improvement, but these designs are more power-efficient than their predecessors were at a similar stage of development.

Should you care how much power your console uses?

The NRDC reports always leave me of two minds. On the one hand, it’s never a bad idea to look at the energy efficiency of the devices you purchase, particularly if you’re a heavy TV watcher and want an Xbox One. There’s no particular reason why an HDMI pass-through requires 72W of power. Similarly, the PS4’s connected stand-by power is either 3W or 8.5W depending on whether or not you enable USB charging — regardless of whether a device is currently charging or not.

What’s the value of that 5.5W? To a person with a PS4 on 24/7/365, about $8.67 a year at 18 cents per kWh. Of course, multiply that times a few million PS4s over a few years, and you’ve got a fair amount of money. The National Resources Defense Council tries at several points to compare total power usage to major cities or multilple power plants, but precious few Americans are going to be convinced that because millions of consoles add up to significant power consumption over several years, they should modify their behavior now.

But one thing that stands out is that it definitely should be possible to improve these positions — and for that reason alone, it’s worth doing. Less power consumption means less system noise, and less power spent cooling that heat. Thus far, Sony and MS haven’t improved the situation — hopefully such updates are on the way later this year.

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Eh…saving the environment isn’t a bad thing…but looking at this from another angle, these systems a power hogs. That costs us money. Not a lot more, but every nickel and dime counts.

Mirimon

the average home PC idles at 130-180w, and uses as much as 350w when performing, given that soo many homes do have a pc (the question is do they leave it in standby or turn it off??) it still stands that a pc only home uses more power than a console only home. (but really.. few homes are like this, if they have a console, they usually have 2, and likely a pc as well.)

massau

i always turn off mine pc when i’m not using it.

Urmo Kasela

Dear jeebus, from what year are these PCs? :)

Joel Hruska

If your system idles at 130-180W, that’s a very high idle. Modern systems typically pull about half that, even with high-end GPUs.

The R9 295X2 + Core i7-4770K idles at about 70W with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD. And that’s using an older 1200W PSU that doesn’t support Haswell’s lowest voltage mode. With proper PSU support you can knock that back further to around 60W.

hehe, yeah.. but it is a TON of led’s…. at about 4w per…I’m trying to swap them out and create some tracing effects, make it Tron-themed.

zOMGLOLROFLMAOz

Remember when the original Xbox 360 used almost 200W?

massau

yes and no your computer might use 600Watt when gaming at max resolution and other game settings. but when you are watching a movie, reading websites etc then your gpu powers down so it uses almost no power. the board and cpu also downclock, undervolt and even power cut themselfs. so it might just use 50 to 100 watt.

the problem here is that the console doesn’t fully use its power optimizations (clock gating , power gating and dynamical voltage, clock scaling).

both have an FPGA and should use that for online mode the main chip should just be powered down. but this isn’t happening.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catchphotography/ H23

Not a chance you pull 600 watts. Your PSU rating has nothing to do with how much it actually pulls. At idle it uses very little, I have a gaming system that uses a ridiculous AMD 8350 overclocked, it sips juice at idle, sub 70 watts for the entire system, under load barely 300 watt for brief periods. Like the article said laptops are very efficient at idle. The motherboard manufactures and windows have done a really good job of making PC’s sip juice under light load and at idle. I would say the chipsets and OS’s are at fault for the consoles

Joel Hruska

A typical gaming PC will consume between 250 – 350W at load, depending heavily on what you consider “typical.” A 4K display (at least the Dell I have) uses about 60W as compared to 35W for a 1080p screen but both are pretty constant.

That said, I have tested systems that could draw 750-800W at load while gaming and as much as 1100W at peak power consumption.

A really, *really* high-end rig could draw 650-700W. A system with an overclocked CPU and an R9 295X2 could pull up to 1200W.

But I agree that there’s a vast disparity between what Kabini is drawing for mobile and what these consoles are pulling for the same basic workloads.

If your GPU uses 150w, I doubt your gaming PC uses 600w. Are you basing that number off of the total size of your PSU, or did you measure it with something like a Kill-a-watt?

Mirimon

he’s basing that off of having a pc sitting in the sun, outside in the summer, with gerbles packed inside for insulation while running 10 benchmark programs at the same time.

Nick Jones

A PC only pulls the sum of it’s parts. So even though your PSU handles 600W you are probably using something more like the following at peak usage:
CPU 120W (referencing an i5 3570K)
RAM 4W (using 2 DDR3 DIMM modules)
HDD 5W
Motherboard 60W (Typical is 45 ~ 80W)
GPU 150W
Fans 18W (assuming 3x120mm)
DVD 25W (assuming you are playing from a disc)

382 watts and that is making some assumptions. The typical PSU only provides as much power as is needed not the full amount it is rated at. Still even if you were just using 350 watts (or less with web browsing, etc) the average gaming PC uses a bit more power than the average home console, especially compared to those of the Nintendo variety.

But with that in mind, a lot of people with car audio/video setups will often integrate a Nintendo console or PS1/2 for power consumption purposes.

chojin999

i5-3570K is a 77Watt TDP CPU…. even overclocking wouldn’t double power consumption… pretty unstable extreme overclocking might.
Motherboars don’t get 60Watt nor 45Watt to 80Watt… what motherboards are you talking about ?
Not even the Dual or Quad Xeon ones need that much power alone.
A motherboard power consumption it’s in the 10-15Watt range at most.. usually way below 10Watt.

Joel Hruska

For once, I agree with Chojin.

I had a system that idled at 350W watts once and drew 500W full-load. It was an early revision Tyan S2895 with no support at all for AMD’s Cool’n’Quiet. With four 90nm CPU cores clocked at 2.6GHz and 8GB of ECC DDR2, that system had formidable power consumption stats.

It also had two complete chipsets implemented on the same board.

http://www.korioi.net/ Korios

That number is how much power your PSU can draw, not how much it consumes.

Digiadam

Wow…..just wow….

You need to learn how a computer actually uses power son. Just because a power supply says that it is a 600w doesn’t mean that you are pulling 600W all of the time. It means that’s the max that it can pull at any given time depending on what you have built up inside. It may even go up more depending on the brand of the power supply.

vomov

Your pc (or it psu) is rated for 600W, with your GPU being rated as 150W. That does not mean it eats up 600W continuously. I’ve got a 1200W PSU in my case, with a crossfire going on on top of a AMD FX 9590 at 220W, while my power usage right now sits quite nicely at 45W. During Crysis it tops off around 280-320W.

what kind of gaming PC do you have then ? Must of been like 780sli with 32gb of ram, premium quality gaming motherboard and some i7 heavily overclocked CPU, with like h100i cooling unit on it, with a shit ton of case fans and like 800-1000 gold/platinum certified PSU.

I have all my electronics on powerstrips. TV, PCs, Cable Boxes, etc. Why shell out the $$$ for stuff when you’re not using it? I’m patient person, I can wait the few minutes for it to turn on…..

Naipier

Cant say this comes as a surprise.

Daniel WhatThe Heck

The Xbox One uses more standby power to keep Kinect services running. Maybe the new Kinectless SKU will have a lower standby power.

Mirimon

this isn’t a surprise, at all…. more powerful and better developed hardware will use more than less powerful devices for it’s core functions, and less power than the poorly designed devices when in standby.

isn’t there other news? like MSFT promising external hardrive support to come in June (to include the absurd ability to transfer and download entire games and dlc to that external drive.. soo much for the power of their cloud..).

massau

actually that isn’t fully true the design itself is also a major point in power consumption look at the raspberry pi it has been “badly” designed.

it uses more power in standby than a much higer power board.
it uses to 2 watts
while the wand board with a much more powerful cpu uses less power.
this is because the soc is better made and newer and especially the the power circuit is switched(>75% efficiency) instead of a linear power regulator(10% up to 60 ) efficiency.

so newer or higher performance tech mostly have a higher max power usage but a lower or equal standby power consumption

(its from the makers themselves so assume 2.5 watt or so at full load. )

Mirimon

this is why the xb1’s power performance is soo ghastly, as it defies this. using less in max and more in standby (wondering without kinect…)

A. J.

The X1 allows you say “Xbox, on” to turn on your console when it is in standby. In order to do this, the Kinect must be on for its microphone and a chip somewhere must be constantly working to determine if it hears that phrase.

You are correct that when a Kinect isn’t plugged in, a powered off X1 should (but likely doesn’t) use less power than one with the Kinect plugged in. Hopefully this gets addressed in a future OS update.

A. J.

to include the absurd ability to transfer and download entire games and dlc to that external drive.. soo much for the power of their cloud.

I don’t think you understand what “the cloud” means. For example, how does caching data locally have anything to do with offloading CPU intensive tasks to remote machines? Or how does it have anything to do with offering cheap or free dedicated servers for hosting multiplayer games?

Allowing external drives allows you to avoid redownloading data across your WAN. This both saves both time and bandwidth for those with caps. It also allows you to save time by not having to wait for a game to install from a disc if you take it over to a friend’s house.

Mirimon

I can see that saving time on the xb1, since it has a terrible download speed compared to pc and PS4.. good for them..

meanwhile, the games I own on the ps4 are easily completely stored on an external memory device.. it’s soo external it isn’t even in my house. Have a hankerin’ for some old content? Dl it again and be playing in no less than a minute….

wait.. are you saying that it will PLAY the game form the hdd? no.. last time I checked it was purely for storage, in order to play that game, sitting on an external drive, it must still be installed on the unit to be played on. It will not, and SHOULD NOT, be played from the external.

it is literally no different than walking to your friends house with the game disc in hand… only now you have an HDD with an additional psu and extra cables….. or.. use a ps4, and w/e that game is can easily be dl to your friend’s ps4 and installed in a minute…
while the ps4 HAS external support (lets be clear, external support means it will accept data, and put data onto an external memory devices.. anything else that can be done with the external device is extra and not part of the term “external drive support”. People need to understand, this does not let you play games from an external device, it lets you store them…… that’s it… I can see this being useful for an xb1 owner who buys all of his content digitally, and so uses it as a back up for his total library, which is handy in case he wants to shuffle some games around and play something else when xbl is down. Aside from that, imo, it is much more efficient, and less costly, to simply swap out the internal HDD from the start.. plus.. not as ugly as a dongle of devices hanging off of your console.. what is this, 1980? Seems the xb1 is less and less digital as time goes on…

A. J.

I can see that saving time on the xb1, since it has a terrible download speed compared to pc and PS4.. good for them..

The X1, PS4, and PC’s are all limited by your WAN speed, or the content provider. None of them are limited by their own hardware, unless you have something like Google Fiber. A 100 mbps connection is just 12.5 MB/s max.

it is literally no different than walking to your friends house with the game disc in hand…

You should Google the read speeds of a HDD vs an optical drive. Transferring a game from an external drive instead of an optical one can greatly cut down the time. So if you are correct that you can’t actually play off of the external device, it should still be much faster to install.

only now you have an HDD with an additional psu and extra cables…..

Unless, of course, you get a 2.5″ drive which won’t need a PSU.

or.. use a ps4, and w/e that game is can easily be dl to your friend’s ps4 and installed in a minute…

Or you can use an X1 and do the exact same thing. I can download Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, etc. to any X1 that I sign into. And no, the PS4 can’t download a 20+ GiB game in a minute. A 20 GiB game would take about 2.25 hours with a 20 mbps WAN connections. Yes you may be able to start playing before it is fully downloaded, but you may not if you want to play a part of the game not downloaded yet.

Aside from that, imo, it is much more efficient, and less costly, to simply swap out the internal HDD from the start

Internal is pretty much always more efficient. However, how in the world is it less costly? A 2TB 2.5″ drive costs more than a 2TB 3.5″ drive. In addition, you lose space when you swap out a drive. 500GB internal swapped out for 2TB gives you 2TB of storage. 500GB internal plus a 2TB external gives you 2.5TB of storage.

while the ps4 HAS external support

Can you please link to something that says that the PS4 allows you to transfer games to local external storage devices? Every Google search I have done has said “no”.

One last thing… Have you noticed that I haven’t gone around insulting the PS4, PC, or any other consoles? All I have done so far is correct your highly inaccurate statements. It seems all you want to do is bash the X1, even if that means making stuff up. It is sad that a company can add a new feature without removing any previous functionality, and still get insulted for it.

Mirimon

no.. literally, the xb1 takes hours to dl and install games, even from disc, while the ps4 and pc somehow manage this in seconds to minutes.

read and write, has nothing to do with optical at all, playing a game from external vs internal is bad juju (no, not talking about playing pong, but full on, current games). It always is, and atm, remains bad, it’s fine for music and movies, but gaming? no….

you are right, the ps4 can’t dl a 20gb game in a minute…that’s all too much of a variable depending on too many things, but it certainly does it faster when compared side by side on the same network regardless of location in the world. for example, took me 27 minutes to DL 20 GB of game, and it took only 42 seconds from starting that download and simultaneous installation to start playing it. As for installing, and being able to play the game.. PS4 is significantly faster, see below:

external drive support:
again, this is a term people are getting confused about. Can I stick a usb drive into the port, and the ps4 read it? yes, can I copy data from it to the console? yes, can I copy data from the console to the usb device? YES.. THAT is called external drive support. What you and many others are attempting to claim is that external drive support means it must be able to accept EVERY bit of data transfer of any type or form, and be able to play it…. which is just crazy. From day one, without any prior updating required, you can use the external usb drive support as the method of updating the console to newer/latest firmware. From day one you can back up your profiles and game saves externally to the same device. Saying it can’t support external HDD just because it won’t let you do something it’s not made for.. well.. that would be like insisting your pc be able to read data from an old vinyl record… by your logic that would mean your pc doesn’t support reading data at all…..
another one?, ok, it would be like taking your ford mustang to the gas station, and finding out it can’t use diesel fuel, and then declaring your car can’t use any fuel at all because it can’t use diesel….
like putting pennies into a current vending machine, annd then declaring that the vending machine simply does not take coins at all…..
.. get the picture?

not sure how you “lose space” when you swap out a drive….. would you lose a car if you traded it then? All I know is, when I deploy somewhere, I don’t have to carry as much since pretty much everything I would need is inside….

internal less expensive: sorry, is that a spare drive in your hands?? how do you connect it to the xbox one? oh yeah.. that’s right, you have to pop it into something that will allow it to interface with power supplies and standard i/o ports… hm.. yeah.. oh here it is.. an enclosure…wait.. it’s not free???
But.. why stop there? you are losing space if you aren’t juggling 3 drives, or 4, or 5… “wanna play some sports games? hold on, ah yes, that hdd is in my other pocket….”

not sure why insulting a particular product is a bad thing.. did I hurt its feelings? or yours (that is a separate issue all together, if a product being insulted gets you offended).

A. J.

external drive support:

It is called “context”. Yes, external drive support is a vague term. However, based on the context I have used and the official Microsoft announcement, it should be clear that I am referring to copying a game to a device that is local to the device, but not installed inside of the console. In this case, I am referring to a USB storage device.

not sure how you “lose space” when you swap out a drive….. would you lose a car if you traded it then?

I showed you above. If each us us bought a 2TB drive for our consoles, I could have 2.5TB plugged in at once while you would have at most 2TB. So either you’d have less space, or you’d at least have to juggle (to use your term) hard drives to get all 2.5TB.

internal less expensive: sorry, is that a spare drive in your hands?? how do you connect it to the xbox one? oh yeah.. that’s right, you have to pop it into something that will allow it to interface with power supplies and standard i/o ports… hm.. yeah.. oh here it is.. an enclosure…wait.. it’s not free???

You may be right, but you are also wrong. Same with me. I don’t keep up with the pricing of all drives. However, I do know that 4TB external (as in comes with an enclosure) drives are cheaper than 4 TB internal ones. In fact, it has been common for a while that the largest drives on the market are often cheaper when purchased as internal drives. This was true even when 3TB was the biggest drives. You could pay less money if you bought an external drive and threw out the case.

But.. why stop there? you are losing space if you aren’t juggling 3 drives, or 4, or 5… “wanna play some sports games? hold on, ah yes, that hdd is in my other pocket….”

How are you losing space? You only lose space when you replace a drive. And let’s be honest, 4 or 5 drives is way excessive right now. The X1 will support 2 external drives at once, which means at least 8.5 TB between a pair of 4 TB external drives and the 500 GB one. Things may be different in 5 years. But for now, 8.5TB is overkill for games. There would be no juggling if you leave it plugged in.

The PS4 can hold at most 2 TB of HDD at a time, due to the limitations of hard drives capacities available. If someone will haves to juggle several drives on the X1, then you would have to juggle even more on the PS4 for the same amount of space. Personally, I think 2TB is plenty for either console at the moment, and don’t really think that the PS4 is in trouble because of this.

Saying it can’t support external HDD just because it won’t let you do something it’s not made for.. well.. that would be like insisting your pc be able to read data from an old vinyl record…

If your PC was primarily a music playing device with a turntable attached, I would say it has a problem if it couldn’t play records. These are “game consoles” with USB ports. But no, I didn’t say the PS4 was broken for not supporting game installations. I just said that the X1 supporting it is a good thing.

another one?, ok, it would be like taking your ford mustang to the gas station, and finding out it can’t use diesel fuel, and then declaring your car can’t use any fuel at all because it can’t use diesel….

Can you please link to something that says that the PS4 allows you to transfer games to local external storage devices? Every Google search I have done has said “no”.

I never said that the PS4 can’t use external drives at all. I think it was pretty clear that I was asking if it could use external storage to store game installations.

not sure why insulting a particular product is a bad thing.. did I hurt its feelings? or yours (that is a separate issue all together, if a product being insulted gets you offended).

Insulting is rude, and has the purpose of hurting something. Try looking up the definition of the word. The purpose of insults are to tear someone or something down. I’d say insulting is bad. “Critiquing” is similar, but with the purpose of building something up and making improvements.

I guess you are the kind of person who doesn’t care what other people think. What is funny is that everyone does care, even you. Some people just say that to justify the fact that trying to hurt others makes them happy. If someone personally walked up to you and insulted your shirt, you’d either be sad or angry. Either way, it would bother you.

I do get annoyed when someone senselessly bashes the X1. But you seem to get annoyed when someone praises it.

Mirimon

of course I get annoyed.. praising a polished turd is silly. Had they made the xb1 the way it should have been it would not be in its current state. IMO, the team behind the surface should have worked on the xb1, at least then it would have a better form. Thing is, they really didn’t listen to either the customers nor the developers, at all, and still aren’t, they are only now flip flopping about because it as a product is tanking and dragging MSFT shares and public image with it.

SumGuy954

I am surprised in this article Gaming PC are not mentioned. Sure each one varies greatly in power draw depending on hard ware. But even the most modest of setups would easily be double the PS4’s power draw.

The high end gaming laptop, has what card in it, because it would seem it must be an hd4000 or some embedded solution with those power draws. Not really an accurate comparison.

Joel Hruska

SumGuy,

A GTX 750 Ti-based system with a dual-core modern CPU will draw the same amount of power as the PS4. A mid-range GPU would draw 30-40% more power.

You certainly can’t build a high-end PC gaming rig without consuming far more power than the PS4, true enough — but a high-end PC will also idle more efficiently (the R9 295X2 + Core i7-4770K will idle at 55-70W depending on your PSU and RAM load.

It’s literally pennies a day…I may as well turn off my refrigerator since its such a power hog.

Mirimon

it’s actually a difference of about 8-10 bucks a month…

Anon

No, they said that it would cost ~ $8 a year not a month

GamingPod

If I remember, kotaku and other gaming sites had a different image, it showed XboxOne having a higher power use than the ps4. Someones facts isn’t right.

Mirimon

it has higher usage in standby.. but not when maxing (and why would it?), the ps4 actually runs a bit warmer (it’s cpu also actually runs in the 2ghz plus range, which may be the cause of extra energy and heat).

Joel Hruska

Xbox One uses more than PS4 when in stand-by and when watching TV (since you can turn the PS4 off while watching TV).

That’s why, in yearly total comprehensive tests, the PS4 uses less power than the Xbox One.

If you *only* compare gaming or streaming, and turn the consoles all the way off, and do not run your TV through your Xbox, then the Xbox One uses less power.

http://www.pc-friendly.net/ Darren Hill

Considering my 50″ TV now uses 27 watts, It evens out the extra power usage of my PS4.

DELFIN

What type your TV? LED? I have 42″ LG LED TV and uses 78 watts

fred

im pretty sure people with ether console most likely dont care as long they get to play shiney new amazing games.

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charliebenjamin

given that the PS4 and Xbox One are essentially pcs in terms of hardware, how do they compare to a gaming pc in terms of power usage?

Mirimon

50% less power, give or take some, and dependent on the system anyways.

Minecraft Greek

Boo Hoo….buy a souped up PC instead and find out how much power that will take up…..considering the added boost in graphics power next gen, using more power is expected. I’m just surprised to see the PS4 uses up more power during mundane tasks than the Xbox One.

Mirimon

it’s “mundane tasks” are faster and in higher fidelity, while doing a much better job at downloading/uploading/updating/installing tasks in the back ground at the same time…. Are you really surprised that higher performance hardware, performing better than the xb1 whilst being hotter uses more energy? Note also how it is lower, by nearly half as much, than the xb1 when in standby?

guest931

the xb1 takes more power in standby because when you turn it on again you can resume the game from right where you left off. For the PS4 it closes the game so you have to boot up the game again.

Carmelo W.

It would be interesting to see the power consumption relative to the computational power of the consoles.

robthom

Why does it matter how much power I use as long as I pay my own electric bill?!

That would only seem to be an issue where one doesn’t pay their own electric bill and sends it to the tax payer.

The latter is the problem, not the xbox.

AlbiteTwins

Less power consumption is always a good thing. Less power consumption also generates less heat, which means hardware components last longer before failing. And of course less power consumption means lower electric bills. A difference of 50 watts might not seem like much when the average electric cost in the US in $0.12 per kilowatt hour, but over the course of years it will add up depending on how much the console is used.

Quite honestly I do not think the current generation does poorly when it comes to power consumption. It will probably decrease further when new console revisions come out with die shrinks just as it did in the last generation.

Kaleb Howard

I put a appliance load tester on a PS3 Fat (CECHE01) that tested at 220 watts. SOOO WHAAAT. My Cable box turned off consumes 20Watts 24/7 why don’t we do something about that ehh?

Damian McMahon

On the last summary it says slim XBOX 360 twice don’t
you mean the E console that draws 120w.

I agree. It looks like a typo, since the 2013 model is E. On a side note though, those numbers you listed are the power supply wattage ratings rather than actual power consumption. The Xbox 360 E consumes about 80 watts when playing a game. The reason why console manufacturers put power supplies with the capability to draw more than that is because power supplies lose their efficiency over time.

jdwii

Have a power meter and my setup actually uses less power then the PS4 and xbox one when watching movies and chrome at the same time and its WAY more powerful. (I7+970)

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