Ok...this is the continuation of my last log. I did not attain the results i would have liked with the last stack...BUT...i did get somewhere and thats what counts. This next 4 weeks will consist of the Following Supps.

X-Force
Posiedon
Sesamax
NP Green Tea Caps
Super Cissus
AP

Their maybe some other things added in later on....im still doing reseach...i will probably add in a night time Supp but as for which one..im not too sure yet. Any suggestions of Additions to this stack or a good Nightime supp (preferably a fatloss one) would be helpful.

With this stack im trying to go a little more to the Flushing my system and Getting really healthy. All these supps have been shown to attribute to weight loss in one way or another, and ive also come to the conclusion that in order for me to lose weight consistantly...i have to be on some sort of STIM. X-force is one stim that caught my eye after trying many other stims and only having really one work (venom). Ive talked with the people of IBE and they said that X-force is not as cracked out potent like Venom is...but does its job well and i hope he is right. Also threw in some Sesamax because the last time i ran it...it worked well and also it works well with a low carb regimen. As for the Green Tea, ive heard many people using it and swear by it, the only problem im going to have is getting the right dosage for my big ass...im starting it off at 3x3 but knowing me...will have to up that. The Super Cissus i threw in because ive had trouble with my shoulders and also in the inside part of my arm near the elbow. Ive had what feels like tendon or ligament pain in there when pulling weight (pull ups, rows, lat pulldowns) and it can really hinder my workouts. Also Cissus has had some effects on Cortisol if i remember correctly, so hopefully that will help out on that end as well.

these are my 4 week pics from my prior log. Hopefully when this 4 weeks is up...there will be a significant difference. My stats are pretty much the same as week 3 of my last log...so i will post them shortly just for reference in this log.

Looking forward to it! You'll love poseiden and the niacin flush. That coupled with your green tea caps should clean ya out a bit. Workin2005 has a post in the Nimbus forum about how Poseiden will help with fat loss. Check it out... really interesting stuff.

Looking forward to it! You'll love poseiden and the niacin flush. That coupled with your green tea caps should clean ya out a bit. Workin2005 has a post in the Nimbus forum about how Poseiden will help with fat loss. Check it out... really interesting stuff.

ill edit this post later to include my workout thoughts but i want to post now to give my first impression of taking these supps.

i took 1 teaspoon of posiedon this morning..and within 10 minutes....it felt like my face was melting off...my girlfriend started getting scared cause my face and my arms and neck...almost everything starting getting a red Hue to it....felt completely fine..just hot as hell.. so i know for a fact that it worked today..lol....im very clear headed and im sure taking x-force with it helped on that level. I only took 1 x-force in the morning today just to make sure it wasnt super potent...and it wasnt..so i will be dosing 2 in the mornings from now on... the green tea...well...i really dont know if that will have a effect that i can feel..seeing as i never really took it before. Im taking the advice of dosing 3x3 with it....if anyone is my size and has maybe a different dosing protocol..please let me know. i still have a warm feeling in my face, whether its still from the posiedon or from the x-force or green tea..or a combination of 2 or all of them.

Im still searching for a supp during the day with a thermo effect that will stack well with the rest of these...and also a thermo for nighttime use. i dont care if i sweat in my sleep..just want to lose the weight.

ill edit this post later to include my workout thoughts but i want to post now to give my first impression of taking these supps.

i took 1 teaspoon of posiedon this morning..and within 10 minutes....it felt like my face was melting off...my girlfriend started getting scared cause my face and my arms and neck...almost everything starting getting a red Hue to it....felt completely fine..just hot as hell.. so i know for a fact that it worked today..lol....im very clear headed and im sure taking x-force with it helped on that level. I only took 1 x-force in the morning today just to make sure it wasnt super potent...and it wasnt..so i will be dosing 2 in the mornings from now on... the green tea...well...i really dont know if that will have a effect that i can feel..seeing as i never really took it before. Im taking the advice of dosing 3x3 with it....if anyone is my size and has maybe a different dosing protocol..please let me know. i still have a warm feeling in my face, whether its still from the posiedon or from the x-force or green tea..or a combination of 2 or all of them.

Im still searching for a supp during the day with a thermo effect that will stack well with the rest of these...and also a thermo for nighttime use. i dont care if i sweat in my sleep..just want to lose the weight.

Be sure your taking a LEVEL teaspoon of Poseidon...not a rounded one. (I responded to your a PM on this but wanted to reiterate it)
Sounds like a very intense Niacin Flush. You may want to try mixing Poseidon in more water (at least 10 oz per serving) to reduce the flush...if you want to. I personally like it ;-)
Here is a link to more info about what is actually happening during a Niacin Flush if your interested:The Niacin Flush and Detoxification

Be sure your taking a LEVEL teaspoon of Poseidon...not a rounded one. (I responded to your a PM on this but wanted to reiterate it)
Sounds like a very intense Niacin Flush. You may want to try mixing Poseidon in more water (at least 10 oz per serving) to reduce the flush...if you want to. I personally like it ;-)
Here is a link to more info about what is actually happening during a Niacin Flush if your interested:The Niacin Flush and Detoxification

Keep us updated

Workin

i like the flush also...ill make sure i take a level teaspoon from now on until i unbury the scooper...hehe....when i get the flush it makes me feel like my body is getting rid of bad waste products...ive been meaning to do a Detox for some time now...and this has been the closest thing ive gotten to it....posiedon and green tea...how sad

Thanks again for the info...the more info i can get the happier i am...i thrive on learning new stuff. always researching..thats me alright hehe

Oh..i took posiedon with im guessin 8 or so ounces of water....it has a pinkish hue...and its not exactly tastless, but has a little bit of a taste to it...i couldnt exactly pinpoint what it was like...maybe a very very very light bitter/acid taste....it was barely noticeable but enough to were i almost had a hard time downing the glass.

I like it, too. It will get better, but if you check out my pics in my current log, you can see in the third pic that my neck is beat red (almost like a sun burn). Just think of it as cleaning your system out. Good stuff

HL

EDIT: BTW, I just toss the scoop of poseiden in my mouth and chase with water. NIIIIICE flush!!!

i like the flush also...ill make sure i take a level teaspoon from now on until i unbury the scooper...hehe....when i get the flush it makes me feel like my body is getting rid of bad waste products...ive been meaning to do a Detox for some time now...and this has been the closest thing ive gotten to it....posiedon and green tea...how sad

Thanks again for the info...the more info i can get the happier i am...i thrive on learning new stuff. always researching..thats me alright hehe

Oh..i took posiedon with im guessin 8 or so ounces of water....it has a pinkish hue...and its not exactly tastless, but has a little bit of a taste to it...i couldnt exactly pinpoint what it was like...maybe a very very very light bitter/acid taste....it was barely noticeable but enough to were i almost had a hard time downing the glass.

Try letting it completely dissolve before drinking it. If you drink it to soon, it will have a mild taste, if you let it dissolve completely (say for 2-3 minutes) and then drink it, you'll find the taste much, MUCH less noticeable if at all.

The Pinkish hue your referring to is the Methyl B-12 in Poseidon Complex

My pleasure on the info...please let me know if you have any further questions.

Try letting it completely dissolve before drinking it. If you drink it to soon, it will have a mild taste, if you let it dissolve completely (say for 2-3 minutes) and then drink it, you'll find the taste much, MUCH less noticeable if at all.

The Pinkish hue your referring to is the Methyl B-12 in Poseidon Complex

My pleasure on the info...please let me know if you have any further questions.

Workin

yeah...i remember reading another thread and you said to let it sit for a few minutes...so thats what i did.....it really wasnt that bad...but you know how some flavors just make you slow down when you drink them? well thats what it is with posiedon .....im sure ill get used to it...if i can take 14 pills at one time....im sure i can get used to posiedon..hehe

The longer it sits, the less taste it really has. Prepare some in advance throw it in the fridge and you have something that taste like nothing. Either way, after a little while you'll find that it's really akward drinking your water without that pink hue to. It's almost addicting in a way LOL.

MP the green tea caps at 3x3 IMO is a little to much to really start out with. I know with the extraction and the concentration of EGCG and other actives in the NP version are suitable for 1x3 for most people. May want to back the dose down a little. Maybe instead of 9 total caps a day, start at something like 4 or 6 for your size(just throwing my thoughts out there).

If you're still in the market for a good night-time fatloss product, I give a hearty recommendation to try out Camphibolic by USP Labs. I find that I get better quality sleep while using it, and it works nicely to control my appetite during the evenings, where without it I tend to wake up during the middle of the night very hungry and unable to sleep because of it.

If you're still in the market for a good night-time fatloss product, I give a hearty recommendation to try out Camphibolic by USP Labs. I find that I get better quality sleep while using it, and it works nicely to control my appetite during the evenings, where without it I tend to wake up during the middle of the night very hungry and unable to sleep because of it.

Unfortunately, that might be a little wasteful with all of the green tea extra. But yeah, great product.

Alright.....Day 1 was pretty much shot...i did fasted cardio...but not much else due to extreme running around i had to do..

today i did a combo of arms and back....trying to get back on schedule....but did not have time to do my 20 min HIIT cardio afterwards.

Thoughts: Ive been feeling really good....very focused and my workout today definitely more energetic than usual....i felt strong and focused. just a really good overall feeling of wellness....as for the Niacin flush...i havent gotten it since yesterday morning on my first dose of posiedon....i finally dug the scooper out of the container and have been using that since lunch yesterday...so whether that is a good thing or bad thing, im not sure yet...but i dont really feel a flush anymore....and especially not like the one i had the first time taking it.

Just some questions, Mpk... your fasted cardio, is it being done in the AM (I'm assuming that it is)? And if so, have you tried doing HIIT during that time period? Besides dropping cortisol levels in your body, it is really suppose to work best in the mornings.

Alright.....Day 1 was pretty much shot...i did fasted cardio...but not much else due to extreme running around i had to do..

today i did a combo of arms and back....trying to get back on schedule....but did not have time to do my 20 min HIIT cardio afterwards.

Thoughts: Ive been feeling really good....very focused and my workout today definitely more energetic than usual....i felt strong and focused. just a really good overall feeling of wellness....as for the Niacin flush...i havent gotten it since yesterday morning on my first dose of posiedon....i finally dug the scooper out of the container and have been using that since lunch yesterday...so whether that is a good thing or bad thing, im not sure yet...but i dont really feel a flush anymore....and especially not like the one i had the first time taking it.

You most likely took more than one dose the first time you had such a flush due to not having the scoop. The first one is usually the most intense. The body is continually building up toxins and riding itself of them...I don't get the niacin flush much anymore...but every now and then it will hit me. When it does, I can usually trace back a day or two and realize I wasn't drinking enough water, or my diet was poor, or I wasn't exercising as intensely and therefore not sweating out toxins like I normally would...there are a million possibilities. The bottom line is, if your building up toxins, you'll most likely get a flush.

Glad to hear about your positive results with Poseidon...and only on day 2! Your results should only improve the longer you take it. I look forward to seeing how you feel in a few weeks.

Take note of basic things like how much easier it seems to perform just day to day tasks. Many people over look this HUGE benefit Poseidon offers.

Just some questions, Mpk... your fasted cardio, is it being done in the AM (I'm assuming that it is)? And if so, have you tried doing HIIT during that time period? Besides dropping cortisol levels in your body, it is really suppose to work best in the mornings.

Just some thoughts! Keep on rolling, bro. Good luck.

HL

i do fasted cardio in the morning about 30min after i take my first set of supps. i do 45 minutes (soon to be 60 minutes) of cardio at about 60%. I do 20 minutes of HIIT cardio after my lifting to try and completely (or almost completely) deplete my muscles.

i have researched this subject ...HIIT vs. Slow cardio fasted in the mornings and have found threads that give good points on both of them...i just decided to pick slow cardio instead, but i might just try HIIT in the morning for like a week and see if there is a difference.

i do fasted cardio in the morning about 30min after i take my first set of supps. i do 45 minutes (soon to be 60 minutes) of cardio at about 60%. I do 20 minutes of HIIT cardio after my lifting to try and completely (or almost completely) deplete my muscles.

i have researched this subject ...HIIT vs. Slow cardio fasted in the mornings and have found threads that give good points on both of them...i just decided to pick slow cardio instead, but i might just try HIIT in the morning for like a week and see if there is a difference.

You most likely took more than one dose the first time you had such a flush due to not having the scoop. The first one is usually the most intense. The body is continually building up toxins and riding itself of them...I don't get the niacin flush much anymore...but every now and then it will hit me. When it does, I can usually trace back a day or two and realize I wasn't drinking enough water, or my diet was poor, or I wasn't exercising as intensely and therefore not sweating out toxins like I normally would...there are a million possibilities. The bottom line is, if your building up toxins, you'll most likely get a flush.

Glad to hear about your positive results with Poseidon...and only on day 2! Your results should only improve the longer you take it. I look forward to seeing how you feel in a few weeks.

Take note of basic things like how much easier it seems to perform just day to day tasks. Many people over look this HUGE benefit Poseidon offers.

Keep me posted

Workin

yeah...actually..i was quite impressed myself today with my workout...i got alot done in a very little time....and it probably helps that i have X-Force (which is known for its focus effects) that i take pre-workout with posiedon.

For the most part...if it only gets better from here with posiedon....im definetely keeping it as a staple....and wont go a day without it.

Sorry for posting so much and clouding up your log... I just like to comment a lot :-D

Originally Posted by mpkonig

what do you mean by this statement?? Not being a D*ck or anything..just would like you to explain.

Cut and paste from BB.com:

During 10-15 second bursts, there is a very small amount of lactic acid produced and rest periods of 30 seconds to a minute will provide complete recovery of the Adenosine Triphosphate-Creatine Phosphate (ATP-CP) system. During efforts of more than 10-15 seconds, a large amount of lactic acid is produced and such efforts are extremely taxing on both the athlete's muscles and their Central Nervous System (CNS).
HIIT during a Cutting Phase:

* 500 Calories under maintenance daily
* High Protein (40% of total calories)
* Low Carbs (20% of total calories)
* High Fat (40% of total calories)

It has been proven in studies that during a low carbohydrate and high fat diet, the oxidation of fat is increased during exercise, especially cardio such as HIIT (more fat is burned). Additionally, fat is a much more highly concentrated source of energy than carbohydrates.

"A review by Hultman (1995) found that during a diet where carbs are restricted and a lot of fat is consumed, up to 70% of the energy requirement (even during high intensity activities) comes from the oxidation of fat (where during a high carbs diet, such activities would derive 80-90% of the energy from glycogen)." (Thibaudeau)