I Like Shiny Things:downstairs: remus: In High School, I used to help the Manager sift through the applications. I swear some people are either this stupid, high, or really don't want to actually get hired

Heh, indeed. My wife does book keeping for a local restaurant, which means she also files all paperwork including resumes. We have a great time going through them and finding rather bizarre gems.

Thats awesome dude.

Your wife violates privacy rights of employees of the very company that puts food on her table, and then you go and boast about it on a public interwebs forum.

You guys rock.

You REALLY don't want to know what IT guys with access to your email and home directories do on a regular basis.

This, and other minimum wage jobs are more often than not taken by individuals under the age of 18. These kids should have no need for unemployment.

when my now Ex-wife was rolling the unemployment thing, all she had to do was provide the names of places she applied too, but she never had to provide proof that she actually applied to anything...

Another big reason she is now an EX, she never actually made any real effort to get a job, just the effort to keep the benefits rolling in,

but I digress.... anecdotal evidence. far as I can tell, you don't actually need to fill these damn things out anymore if you are just trying to roll the bennie's....

I was on unemployment for six months, just had to press "1" to indicate that I was looking for work that week once a week. But leave it to the right to assume this is a "taker" that didn't want the job. I work with a couple tea party members. It must really suck to live through life assuming everyone is trying to cheat the system and take money directly out of their pockets. They are so angry so often.

/turned down a couple minimum wage offers because it was about the same as the unemployment benefits and would have filled my time with meaningless work instead of looking for a job.

redsquid:What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

If you have the determination to fill out the entire application correctly and without looking stupid, you have the determination to go through eight hours a day of bullshiat for a few years.

Oldiron_79:redsquid: What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

Also do you really need a resume for blue collar positions? I mean seriously you have whatever licensing and experience the company requires or you don't, My skills at creative writing should be irrelevant.

Yep. After being self employed in a now mostly obsolete field for 20 years, I was looking for any kind of job this past year, just to get me through until something permanent came along. Even part-time janitorial jobs wanted the same "where do you see yourself in five years" bullshiat essays. I had a hard time deciding whether to go for the "I see myself as Upper Management material, just looking for an opportunity to demonstrate the benefits that I can bring to your organization" or "After 20 years of making and bearing all responsibility for every decision big or small, I just want to show up, do my thing, and let somebody else drive the bus". And in fact, one part time employer did hire me after mentioning that she was wary of me getting bored or frustrated in such a low level position and I responded with the latter comment.

redsquid:What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

Also do you really need a resume for blue collar positions? I mean seriously you have whatever licensing and experience the company requires or you don't, My skills at creative writing should be irrelevant.

gonna say.. if you can weld, you should be able to get something, anywhere, even entry level, and work up from there.. there are too many assholes in this world trying to, and expecting to get rich sitting in a cubicle.. the world needs folks that can take two pieces of metal and put them together.. I work in the beer industry, and I can tell you for certain that the industry needs folks that can work with stainless steel and be able to perform sanitary welds.You can make a shiatload of money with your skills, but you do have to build them up and you gotta start low and work up.. and if you are stuck where you are because no one is hiring, it seems like they are not Hiring YOU.. good ole boy shiat happens.. even if you are not certified, try to weld whatever the hell you can... mufflers, stair wells etc general mechanical work... learn yourself to work decorative wrought iron... but above all, get the fark our of Arkansas and get to where there is some work. take whatever work you can get to get to where there is better work and opportunities.

invest in yourself and your abilities.. and a good blue collar skilled individual will go far..if you can weld now, then you have a skill that 98% of the population does not have, and it is marketable..

other than some advice.. Have a month of TF as a gift from one blue collar guy to another..

jst3p:I was on unemployment for six months, just had to press "1" to indicate that I was looking for work that week once a week. But leave it to the right to assume this is a "taker" that didn't want the job. I work with a couple tea party members. It must really suck to live through life assuming everyone is trying to cheat the system and take money directly out of their pockets. They are so angry so often.

/turned down a couple minimum wage offers because it was about the same as the unemployment benefits and would have filled my time with meaningless work instead of looking for a job.

Around here it was apply for 3, at least one of which had to be in person. They wanted info on who I applied to. At least I didn't have to bother with minimum wage junk--I wasn't expected to take anything that paid less than unemployment. The in-person requirement was annoying as no job I would be interested in would be an in-person application.

Somaticasual:You have to wonder if some of these are just someone meeting unemployment job application quotas..

I doubt it. If they checked up on it (and why else ask for where you applied other than to do spot-checking?) and saw what people used in an application...

BarkingUnicorn:Koodz: redsquid: What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

I started to apply for an engineering job whose application literally asked my high school major. I decided I didn't want to work for a firm that institutionally stupid.

The app may have been very old, from a time when enginneering jobs required only a HS education. Or it may have been designed for both college-educated and HS-educated positions and applicants.

What's stupid is walking away from an opportunity when all you had to do was leave that space blank. If it wasn't significant, the reader wouldn't care.

The HR drone would put it aside since it was incomplete. Remember they want to show that they are a vital asset by keeping the low life applicants out.

It's a reason that they ask dumb questions that don't involve any aspect of the job and pick the ones that entertain them the most

jst3p:I Like Shiny Things: downstairs: remus: In High School, I used to help the Manager sift through the applications. I swear some people are either this stupid, high, or really don't want to actually get hired

Heh, indeed. My wife does book keeping for a local restaurant, which means she also files all paperwork including resumes. We have a great time going through them and finding rather bizarre gems.

Thats awesome dude.

Your wife violates privacy rights of employees of the very company that puts food on her table, and then you go and boast about it on a public interwebs forum.

You guys rock.

You REALLY don't want to know what IT guys with access to your email and home directories do on a regular basis.

I'm one of those IT guys. We don't do what people think we do. Why? Because we know that upper management can easily fire and replace someone who knows how to run a network and fix PEBCAK errors. They're more hesitant to replace some paper-pushing professional staffer with a graduate education, that they play pickup basketball games with on the weekend, and who babysits their kids.

OHMYGODYES. Every time I order a 7 Layer Burrito from Taco Bell, I have to ask them to actually layer the ingredients out in rows so that I don't get a mouthful of sour cream on the first bite and a glob of guacamole on the second bite.

And do you enjoy eating the layer of spittle (or worse) your request produces?

Koodz:redsquid: What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

I started to apply for an engineering job whose application literally asked my high school major. I decided I didn't want to work for a firm that institutionally stupid.

redsquid:What happened to job applications? They used to be a simple one or two page affair- now they're freaking novels. Do you really need the address of my elementary school? My wife was looking to take a position with a high end national retail outfit. The online application process took 4 hours!

I started to apply for an engineering job whose application literally asked my high school major. I decided I didn't want to work for a firm that institutionally stupid.