The point I am getting at is that alot of Guys who were early activists have been dismissed because of "Inappropriate Tattoos" or the wrong hair cut... it is like people are turned away from his Party for being "too Ugly" to Join.

If there is fraud going on then that is just sick... Nationalists need all the funds they can get, but our friend has pointed out in the Title that he was a "Good Guy".
Nationalists are likely to be lively crowd... and this attempt to turn them into Jehovas witness types is ridiculous.

Nobody minds somebody who is 'lively' but thugs and daydreaming cultists can go elsewhere.

'Wrong hair cuts'. No, I am sure the party doesn't mind footballers joining. After all, many of them have pretty short haircuts!

The point I am getting at is that alot of Guys who were early activists have been dismissed because of "Inappropriate Tattoos" or the wrong hair cut... it is like people are turned away from his Party for being "too Ugly" to Join.

If there is fraud going on then that is just sick... Nationalists need all the funds they can get, but our friend has pointed out in the Title that he was a "Good Guy".
Nationalists are likely to be lively crowd... and this attempt to turn them into Jehovas witness types is ridiculous.

I understand what you are saying junkers88!

Nationalists are likely to be their own people and I don't believe in phony make-overs or spin.

But this isn't about image with Clive, it's about the fact he wouldn't hand over his legal Presidency of Solidarity.

Proud Son Of Britannia;No, it would rather have sane and patriotic supporters/ members whatever they wear though it does help being smart on the door step rather than cultists who fantasise about a long dead FOREIGN regime.

I see .
Wipe the slate clean and start from scratch.
Bit like snakes and ladders then.
Or the Ghost of Christmas past.

The BNP are regulary tarred with the "Nazi" Brush.

Quote:

Nazi thugs reveal the violent reality of the BNP

by Anindya Bhattacharyya (writing for the SWP)

The Germanic speaking Germans, and the Germanic speaking British are less foreign than the Swahili speaking Invaders, but most British cherish their "Hatered of the Hun" more dearly than a Hatered of the real "FOREIGN" regime.

But then people like me are not welcome in the BNP and your Leader has told you not to consort with the likes of us on this Forum.

Nationalists are likely to be their own people and I don't believe in phony make-overs or spin.

But this isn't about image with Clive, it's about the fact he wouldn't hand over his legal Presidency of Solidarity.

I'll update you again when Clive's appeal is over.

I also get what you are saying BritishPatriot.
Part of my point is that whereas I understand that NG/BNP want a reasonable image, so as to become Mainstream, the effects on the Rank and File, might be quite heavy.

Allow me to explain.
Many Rank and File BNP supporters come from areas that have been hard hit by the invasion.
For example the Low paid and the disadvantaged.
It is these White Folk who have had to send their Children to schools where they are out-numbered by foreigners, or leave their hometown.

Many of these same people have through years of Political abuse become Angry and Volatile. It does not matter who they Vote for they will be told that they live in a Multi-Cultural Zone and simply have to "Celebrate" the fact.

Now NG in his efforts to become more mainstream is ditching these self same people from whom he got his initial support in favour of people who live in the Home-Counties and hardly ever see a Dark face.

We can see from this thread that people who are seen to be "Out-side" the "Party" are treated as "Un-patriotic scum".

Well I wish NG all the luck in the World, as he is the best choise on offer, but his efforts to ditch the Rank and File, in favour of a crowd that will probably end up Voting for Cameron, must raise questions about where he is leading his Party.

No Telegraph reader will vote for him no matter how he tries to please them.

I also get what you are saying BritishPatriot.
Part of my point is that whereas I understand that NG/BNP want a reasonable image, so as to become Mainstream, the effects on the Rank and File, might be quite heavy.

Allow me to explain.
Many Rank and File BNP supporters come from areas that have been hard hit by the invasion.
For example the Low paid and the disadvantaged.
It is these White Folk who have had to send their Children to schools where they are out-numbered by foreigners, or leave their hometown.

Many of these same people have through years of Political abuse become Angry and Volatile. It does not matter who they Vote for they will be told that they live in a Multi-Cultural Zone and simply have to "Celebrate" the fact.

Now NG in his efforts to become more mainstream is ditching these self same people from whom he got his initial support in favour of people who live in the Home-Counties and hardly ever see a Dark face.

We can see from this thread that people who are seen to be "Out-side" the "Party" are treated as "Un-patriotic scum".

Well I wish NG all the luck in the World, as he is the best choise on offer, but his efforts to ditch the Rank and File, in favour of a crowd that will probably end up Voting for Cameron, must raise questions about where he is leading his Party.

No Telegraph reader will vote for him no matter how he tries to please them.

This is a good post junkers88 (if you don't mind me saying so) and I agree with you in what you're saying.

I'm simply a grass-roots member of the BNP and a grass-roots member of the Solidary Union.

When I found out what was happening in our union I came to post on Stormfront because I wanted to stick up for what I thought was right.

I also didn't want the truth of what was happening covered over by spin and lies.

It's that simple.

Everything I've found out about the union is on www.solidarityunion.org and if any of you wanted to contact Mr. Clive Potter or Mr. Tim Hawke directly to find out what is going on, you could try the admin E-mail address on this web-site and I'm sure one of them would contact you.

The point I am getting at is that alot of Guys who were early activists have been dismissed because of "Inappropriate Tattoos" or the wrong hair cut... it is like people are turned away from his Party for being "too Ugly" to Join.

If there is fraud going on then that is just sick... Nationalists need all the funds they can get, but our friend has pointed out in the Title that he was a "Good Guy".
Nationalists are likely to be lively crowd... and this attempt to turn them into Jehovas witness types is ridiculous.

In fact most members of the BNP would be impossible to identify by their dress or hair cut, nor would I describe them as particularly "lively".

If an individual puts his sartorial principles before his political ones then he is of no use to the cause. The attitude "I will fight only on the condition I can do it in an 88 tee-shirt, with a number one cut and in a green bomber jacket" instantly marks out the holder as an exhibitionist, not a nationalist. Such conditions are usually demanded only by those attempting to hide their cowardice behind their "Principles".

True patriots wants to make themselves as effective as they can be, the true patriots look for opportunities to engage the opposition, not excuses to avoid them.

We have wild differences of Opinion on SF, but we are still here. Still with the same shared goals.
That is why SF is good for us because we meet all sorts of opinions in the same
boat.

I have no idea why Potter was dismissed. Maybe he threw his rattle out of the pram over some issue of precedence. Maybe he felt that he was being ignored by Solidarity's backers. Maybe he has become the latest disaffected asset to role of Griffin's production line. Who knows? The only thing we can be certain of is that the definitive answer is not going to appear on SF.

Griffin and the BNP are on the ropes at the moment, in several respects. It has become increasingly hard to defend Griffin's leadership. However several people are trying to associate their own agendas with the legitimate grievances against Griffin. For example of another thread a poster tried to link Griffin's lack of management skill with his own concerns about the "watering down of the BNP's policies". There is a case for the former and none for the latter, neither are the issues linked. In the same way you appear to be attempting the use the Potter incident to promote your own desire to see the BNP abandon it's attempts to appear as a credible political force. My apologies if I have misjudged your point.