Look, if all of the "disaffected" former Bush supporters on this site were what they say they are then Bush would have won the popular vote with 60%. I have noticed about 3 posters that hate Bush that are honest enough to admit they never voted for him in the first place. Yes there are a few around here that were very active in the primaries however, when their man did NOT win, they just lost all interest and decided to turn their energy to blasting the guy that did win and yelling "I told ya so".

As I recall, Levin had quadruple or maybe even 5 vessel by pass surgery, last year and Rush also had his surgery. Both seem to have undergone radical personality changes. Maybe it's related,maybe not,but there have been some studies that have shown, that post op cardiac patients have personality changes-whether it's from anoxia during the procedure or some other insult, the researchers are not sure. Rush's surgery was done,through the skull,behind his ear.Maybe these two have bonded because of their medical problems .But something is definitely up with these two.

We're dealing with powerful forces. Bush is more open about it than Clinton, but anyway you look at it the medicine strong enough to keep the world safe for freedom loving people is also strong enough to enslave us all. We really do depend on honest, competent leaders with a true understanding of what's essential.

We have gone past the point, as a country, where we can ensure our collective freedom by keeping the federal government too weak to put it at risk.

And the world is going past the point that it can ensure its collective freedom by remaining isolationist.

We must elect good leaders; we must understand ourselves what is important so that we will know good leaders when we see them; we must teach our children thus; and we must not fail.

No - I did not get your uneasy feeling. If Bush walked by my room right now, you'd see an old man snap to salute like he hasn't in decades, a tear of joy on his cheek.

FWIW, Bush is a diplomat, and I'm not. I could never be as polite as he is in the situations he's been thrust into. I would've nuked Tora Bora on September 12th. (I'm not proud of that sentiment or that visceral reaction, just honest.)

Personally, when Dubya gave them the Deuteronomy tonight I thought it was one of the more pointed things he's ever said to them. To me it was like "Shape up, ya loonies, or say 'hello' to the big portobello!"

Yes, I dabble occasionally in the belly of Bushbotdom. ('Cept I usually get called a Twinkie when I do.)

I guarantee you that there is nothing you can say about Rush Limbaugh that we all haven't heard or read about at least a million times. So, if you are incapable of coming up with some interesting or original material, put a sock in it!

guarantee you that there is nothing you can say about Rush Limbaugh that we all haven't heard or read about at least a million times. So, if you are incapable of coming up with some interesting or original material, put a sock in it!

Wild Irish Rogue wrote: As I recall, Levin had quadruple or maybe even 5 vessel by pass surgery, last year and Rush also had his surgery. Both seem to have undergone radical personality changes. Maybe it's related,maybe not,but there have been some studies that have shown, that post op cardiac patients have personality changes-whether it's from anoxia during the procedure or some other insult, the researchers are not sure. Rush's surgery was done,through the skull,behind his ear.Maybe these two have bonded because of their medical problems .But something is definitely up with these two.

It may just be coincidence that Rush went on his anti-Bush tear during the pre-summer ratings period, but I doubt it.

People generally don't tamper with a winning formula, but Rush did an about-face on several fronts simultaneously:

1. He started to become hyper-critical of Bush.

2. He made a point of dissociating himself from the Republican Party.

3. He started to be nasty to some callers who disagree with him.

I'm thinking that the EIB people maybe were starting to see some ratings numbers that made them nervous so they decided to give to the program some edge.

"You one issue cry-babies are exhausting. At least stay on the abortion threads where you belong...oh, that's right, there haven't been many since January 2001 which must be why you'rer draggin' that tired crap over here."

You find the murdering of millions of innocent children to be "tired crap"?

I am way, way past my bedtime,but I had to go and read some of holdonnows threads-they are so full of bitterness and anger-just like Rush.They use the exact same phraseology. I was just praising Mark on a thread yesterday-I had no idea he had descended into the mire of puerile name calling and Bush bashing, along with Rush. How very sad for the both of them. Move over Pat, two more are coming.

Holdonnow is a FReeper whose opinions are greatly appreciated on this forum and elsewhere. Looks like he took a few people to task tonight. Not bad. I've seen him do it on TV many times (and a whole lot more serious than he did here). He's great at it! God bless him, wish there were more like him.

WELLLLLLL, INTERESTINGLY, this past week I've had some more trustworthy input insist that earlier predictions of my martyrdom were inaccurate and that God had other plans. That would be nice. I've suffered enough the last 3 years of fiery furnaces I think I'd be just as glad to leave the martyrdom to someone else. If God takes me straight out of this life into the next one without physical death, Great.

On the other hand, His Will be done in terms of whatever's best for The KINGDOM AS LONG AS MY SALVATION IS NOT THE LEAST BIT THREATENED! I'd hate to weaken in a torture situation and even think of denying my Lord. I realize His Grace is sufficient.

THANKS TONS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. Please pray that my ongoing relationships with a list of students and others after I leave will bear much fruit. And that the gift packages and handmade pottery I'm working to get together for them will all come toegether. First I have to get this last set of finals graded and then pack before movers on the 3rd! Wheee. Guess I'd better quit playing hooky on FR!!!

Just finished reading "holdonnow"`s posts. Either you didn't read the threads Jim, or perhaps you invited him to come over and stir up some trouble for certain Bush supporters. There's no way you can call Mark Levin's --- if that's who it was --- behavior proper conduct for a FReeper. NO way. Are you sure this is the real Jim Robinson?

Well, his style is probably not something I would want all FReepers to emulate, but then we're not all Mark Levins either. He's used to taking liberals apart on TV and he takes absolutely no guff from any of them. So, guess he delivered a little friendly fire here tonight and we took a few casualties. I hope all who took incoming rounds can handle it. It's not every day that you get to go to fisticuffs with the likes of a great conservative mind like Mark's.

I didn't have the opportunity to engage "The Great One" tonight, but from the looks of things, he gave quite a few low blows. Taking liberals apart on TV is one thing. Tonight on FR, I thought he stepped over the line. Oh well. May be he'll come around and join us more often.

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