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I don't remember the details, but from what I remember, he left after the organization was burning down around him. He went and retrieved Rentia and later went into the real world. His background was primarily explored in volume 4 when a fellow assassin who used to call him "brother" returned as part of the evil organization that the current "Ren" is part of.

His past with the principal isn't that closely explored. That principal is actually really, really powerful and one of the few that could potentially be stronger than the old Kamito. She had the position as one of the 10 royal sword dancers (and even among them, the best) in the country until she voluntarily retired. She even taught Kamito some of his ace moves. For example, the ace move he revealed in volume 6 which launched 16 consecutive strikes at his/her opponent, was one such move.

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Ok I dont get this current "Ren" thing. I thought "her" and Kamito were the same person. Or is it like a position in the orginization or like a piccolo-split?

Ok I dont get this current "Ren" thing. I thought "her" and Kamito were the same person. Or is it like a position in the orginization or like a piccolo-split?

here's the thing,

Spoiler for spoiler:

Kamito is the original Ren 3 years ago who dominated the tournament (and stole the heart of many female blade dancers). But currently, there is another "Ren". That's why Kamito is confused as hell. He was the original Ren yet there is another Ren right in front of him. And while we don't know how this Ren compares to the old Kamito, this current "Ren" is undoubtedly the strongest sword dancer thus far in the tournament. Her group is thus far the undisputed favorite based on their dominance.

And one of the things the principal used to entice Kamito back into the school was that there have been signs of Rentia- his old spirit- and the return of "Ren", which is obviously not Kamito himself since he's right there with the principal.

Kamito is the original Ren 3 years ago who dominated the tournament (and stole the heart of many female blade dancers). But currently, there is another "Ren". That's why Kamito is confused as hell. He was the original Ren yet there is another Ren right in front of him. And while we don't know how this Ren compares to the old Kamito, this current "Ren" is undoubtedly the strongest sword dancer thus far in the tournament. Her group is thus far the undisputed favorite based on their dominance.

And one of the things the principal used to entice Kamito back into the school was that there have been signs of Rentia- his old spirit- and the return of "Ren", which is obviously not Kamito himself since he's right there with the principal.

It kind of reminds me of the "Kenshin and Shishou Makoto" relationship in many ways.

Kamito is the original Ren 3 years ago who dominated the tournament (and stole the heart of many female blade dancers). But currently, there is another "Ren". That's why Kamito is confused as hell. He was the original Ren yet there is another Ren right in front of him. And while we don't know how this Ren compares to the old Kamito, this current "Ren" is undoubtedly the strongest sword dancer thus far in the tournament. Her group is thus far the undisputed favorite based on their dominance.

And one of the things the principal used to entice Kamito back into the school was that there have been signs of Rentia- his old spirit- and the return of "Ren", which is obviously not Kamito himself since he's right there with the principal.

Well, I'd be pissed as hell as well

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when you say "undoubtedly" its cuz of the name Ren tht she holds so ppl think its her, right. So whats up with Rentia now? Did she leave disappear after he left?

when you say "undoubtedly" its cuz of the name Ren tht she holds so ppl think its her, right. So whats up with Rentia now? Did she leave disappear after he left?

Spoiler for more spoilers huhuhuhu:

Well, there's the name and because she actually is the strongest. She utterly crushed Ms. Dragon (I'll just call her that) in volume 5. If she wanted to, she can easily solo through most of the groups.

When Ren first showed up in the ceremonial dance(the reaction by Claire and the others were admiration and fear), she immediately walked toward Kamito and asked for a dance. Though on the outside, it seemed like a dance. In reality, both of them were having an elegant sword dance through their steps and mind. That little "sparring session" ended without a clear victor. This alone should tell us that the current Ren's sword ability is at worst in the range of Kamito's sword ability. Of course, in an actual fight, Kamito would immediately lose because of his nerfed sword spirit.

Well, there's the name and because she actually is the strongest. She utterly crushed Ms. Dragon (I'll just call her that) in volume 5. If she wanted to, she can easily solo through most of the groups.

When Ren first showed up in the ceremonial dance(the reaction by Claire and the others were admiration and fear), she immediately walked toward Kamito and asked for a dance. Though on the outside, it seemed like a dance. In reality, both of them were having an elegant sword dance through their steps and mind. That little "sparring session" ended without a clear victor. This alone should tell us that the current Ren's sword ability is at worst in the range of Kamito's sword ability. Of course, in an actual fight, Kamito would immediately lose because of his nerfed sword spirit.

Spoiler for this just goes on:

Has it been said which spirit she uses? And she is actually a girl or another guy dressed exactly like him for ppl to believe tht she is the sane Ren from 3 years ago.

so there some imposter that take name ren.
but the problem is rentias is on the hand imposter ren right?
and kamito doesn't have change to defeat imposter ren on the curtent condition.
why on this novel have 3 hardcore tsundere?
just one already annoying but you get 3 kamito please rest in peace.
if tsundere like louise then you don't have chance to live kamito.

Anyway, what you ask will be answered like 5 pages from what Kuroihikari is currently working on. It is basically what you said.

I don't think that point was further elaborated on. There are hints in the recent volumes about Claire's sister, but they are just hints, it is not officially revealed yet. But one can always make guesses.

Well, there's the name and because she actually is the strongest. She utterly crushed Ms. Dragon (I'll just call her that) in volume 5. If she wanted to, she can easily solo through most of the groups.

When Ren first showed up in the ceremonial dance(the reaction by Claire and the others were admiration and fear), she immediately walked toward Kamito and asked for a dance. Though on the outside, it seemed like a dance. In reality, both of them were having an elegant sword dance through their steps and mind. That little "sparring session" ended without a clear victor. This alone should tell us that the current Ren's sword ability is at worst in the range of Kamito's sword ability. Of course, in an actual fight, Kamito would immediately lose because of his nerfed sword spirit.

Spoiler for questions:

are you talking about ren or his old spirit that he dance with.
also what is going on with that pic of his old sword kissing him in the color pic?
also what is claire's Elemental Waffe( this is how it is spell at BT)

Last edited by zerodragon; 2012-03-12 at 12:45.
Reason: forgot a question

That and males aren't supposed to be able to contract with spirits. In volume 1, Kamito was known as the only male who contracted with spirits.

Reminds me of Infinite Stratos.

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Do the girls still go on with the "he's my servant" bit or have they toned down?

Depends on the situation.

But basically, Claire and Rinslet became more likeable. I could be wrong but when she uses the word "slave", in the latest volume, it's only at the beginning and the end (basically, harem-comedy situations). Plus, I don't think that other girls such as Ellis or Est think of him like that.

^ I rather think that she's some kind of illusion created during the 3 "blank" years Kamito had. Like, maybe a data transfer or something.

Spoiler for Claire's sister:

Spoiler for only for those who are update with the current volumes:

Sorry to disappoint you. But I believe n0m@n is right. There are several clues for this. There is one scene where the fake Ren is described as having red eyes or hair. Probably one scene where she even used fire magic if my memory serves. Another clue is that Restia said that the fake Ren specifically instructed that she was not to hurt Claire.

Sorry to disappoint you. But I believe n0m@n is right. There are several clues for this. There is one scene where the fake Ren is described as having right eyes or hair. Probably one scene where she even used fire magic if my memory serves. Another clue is that Restia said that the fake Ren specifically instructed that she was not to hurt Claire.

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So Riesta is with the current Ren? Any left over feelings for the previous one?

can i sak some thing?
why this novel still teaser project on baka tsuki.
from what i see the progress quite fast and the story is interesting!
well minus point that this story is having to many hardcore tsundere

can i sak some thing?
why this novel still teaser project on baka tsuki.
from what i see the progress quite fast and the story is interesting!
well minus point that this story is having to many hardcore tsundere

I'll quote kiRa here

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Originally Posted by KiRa08o2

Guys, the warning template was something I've done. It is in order to gt approved by an admin an get into the sidebar. However, the admins are kinda MIA or something, so...

And BTW, what's up with that SeireInsanity? At this stage, volume 1 will be completed before the project gets approved on B-T.