]]>By: sandibalzhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767915
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767915Don’t have time to read the bulk of these comments, especially after the first 15 or so. What did I miss? The prez, AD and head coach covered it up. This should be considered systematic. The top 3 leaders of the school, whether they should be or not, may not have been able to do much in 98,but they did a couple years later. The BOT owns some responsibility in allowing these individuals to grow this kind of power. Everyone should be held in check and the BOT failed. The rest of penn state should be holding their leadership accountable.

With that said, the BOT should be thrown out. They clearly missed the point.

]]>By: Ty_Webbhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767914
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767914What was Paterno or PSU supposed to do in 1998? The guy was thoroughly investigated and wasn’t charged. You cant ban someone from a campus for that.

beat the living shit out of him

/typical Pennsylvania

]]>By: Milk Steak To Gohttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767913
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767913— Hey, remember that coach who the police investigated for kid touching? The one with the charity for kids without dads.

Oh, Jerry? What about him?

–He’s asking for emeritus status, including an office in the football building. Do you think we should give it to him.

That would answer all the questions? C’mon now. How would he answer questions about why he still let Sandusky on campus and in football buildings, with kids?

What was Paterno or PSU supposed to do in 1998? The guy was thoroughly investigated and wasn’t charged. You cant ban someone from a campus for that.

]]>By: starkweatherhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767911
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767911I love the “Penn State reacts to NCAA sanctions” photos so much. Look at that guy reacting! He’s pretty sad about it all, I would guess.
]]>By: Milk Steak To Gohttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767910
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Which would have been nothing in 2001. He’d say, “There was an investigation by the DPW and the police, neither came back with any charges, and the matter was dismissed.” Why exactly would that be troublesome?

That would answer all the questions? C’mon now. How would he answer questions about why he still let Sandusky on campus and in football buildings, with kids?

The only good thing about it happening in earlier is the 24 hour news cycle was just beginning. And 2001 was a contested election year.

]]>By: PeerLessPriceshttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767909
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767909your local middle school like most here

]]>By: ddmcd#1MoFohttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767906
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767906Of course none of you will be smart enough to realize that there are a lot of current and future insurance/bond rating/loans/etc repercussions regarding the entire “thing” from civil litigation, ncaa sanctions, to the criminal cases of its former employees. The need to present certain “facts” in cases and have them legally documented can and will go a long way when it comes to getting D&O Ins, heading to Goldman for another bond issuance. This needs to be done to protect funding. I know you normally don’t do this when you work at Quickie Mart or mop your local middle school like most here so I will not pass judgement on you clowns. And please my King can you moderate my post quickly.
]]>By: QueeferSutherlandhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767905
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Were it to go down this way, Joe PA and the rest would have been called to the carpet in a “what did you know, when did you know it moment” and JoePa couldn’t “aw shucks” his way around it.

Which would have been nothing in 2001. He’d say, “There was an investigation by the DPW and the police, neither came back with any charges, and the matter was dismissed.” Why exactly would that be troublesome?

uniforms featuring a blue ribbon to support all victims of child abuse. Also, for the first time, the names of each football player will adorn their jersey in recognition of their resolve and dedication to the team and the University.

But in 2001, that guy would have been knighted for turning Sandusky in.

Just to be clear, in your scenario, JoePa turns in Sandusky and becomes a sainted hero. I think we all know that didn’t happen…

Now lets turn to a more plausible scenario – the media reports on an investigation that Sandusky is, well, Sanduskying kids in the PSU football showers. Were it to go down this way, Joe PA and the rest would have been called to the carpet in a “what did you know, when did you know it moment” and JoePa couldn’t “aw shucks” his way around it.

uniforms featuring a blue ribbon to support all victims of child abuse. Also, for the first time, the names of each football player will adorn their jersey in recognition of their resolve and dedication to the team and the University.

]]>By: QueeferSutherlandhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767900
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767900Huh, not a huge fan of the names, but OK.
]]>By: molemaninthemorninghttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767899
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UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. – When they take the field at Beaver Stadium for their 126th season, The Pennsylvania State University football team will wear uniforms featuring a blue ribbon to support all victims of child abuse. Also, for the first time, the names of each football player will adorn their jersey in recognition of their resolve and dedication to the team and the University.

]]>By: QueeferSutherlandhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767898
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767898I got worms
]]>By: Worms82http://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767897
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767897“What did we do wrong? We did nothing wrong!”

“Yes we did, we were supposed to fight for people who couldn’t fight for themselves, we were supposed to fight for Willie”

Except in this case, Willie is a bunch of kids who got ass raped. I’m pretty sure you just take your punishment in this situation.

]]>By: njensen79http://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767895
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767895Why not? What did those kids do wrong?

I can’t imagine too many well balanced Penn State fans will have the same feeling watching their team do the same

Why not? What did those kids do wrong?

]]>By: Worms82http://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767893
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767893and disappointed as a poor kid on christmas when he opens up a box of job applications.

but I’m not sure Penn State is really has any place to complain about it considering what went down there.

I hate this line of reasoning.

There should always be appeal recourse for a punishment. Always. No matter the situation, no matter how horrific the charges are.

We don’t live in Iran.

Is this Iran, Danny?

]]>By: mrejr8234 comes for the sports posts but stays to kill the local inhabitantshttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767890
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Thank God you got that in there. All we need now is Ty Webb to post “Typical Pennsylvania” and JHS to make a disparaging remark about JoePa and the comment thread will be complete.

I got more. Joe Paterno was a fucking fraud and I hope he burns in hell. They let kids get raped for as long as a decade foe the sake of the “program” . A program the prided themselves on doing stuff the right way. Apparently the right way means ignoring something as heinous as child rape. And every person I have seen speak up for PSU makes it seem like PSU is just another victim of Sandusky and Penn State did nothing wrong. The has been more outrage from Penn Staters about the NCAA’s sanctions than about kids getting raped. Oh you held a candle light vigil for the victims that one time, good for you guys. The program created a environment where nothing was more important than football. Even kids getting raped. So yeah, have the program go away for a while. Fuck PSU and their ignorant ways of thinking.

The scandal that would have erupted if it came out in 1998 or 2001 that Sandusky was raping kids in the football showers could have ruined Penn State’s football brand.

If Joe Paterno, God of Moral Decency and Character, had turned in a child molester in 2001, he would have been lionized by the media. Columnists would have stabbed each other with prison shanks to sing his praises the loudest.

“Saint Joe Saves Children”
“JoePa Puts What’s Right Ahead of Football”
“Where other football factory coaches would have covered this up, Paterno made the hard choice and turned in his friend”

Paterno and PSU would have been held up as an exemplary standard for how to deal with a crisis situation. Sure, a few dissenters would yell about “How could PSU hire a child molester!!!” but they would have been drowned out by experts lauding Paterno and PSU. They would have been clear for anything in 1998 since the DA didn’t file charges.

Its hard to admit that now after Paterno is seen as a leper. But in 2001, that guy would have been knighted for turning Sandusky in.

Here’s the thing about that tax, though — it made his county a lot of money. It worked.

That shit cray, for sure, and I didn’t agree with it politically. But it worked.

Yes and no.

I mean it raised money for the Port Authority like it was supposed to do. Money which he then withheld from the Port Authority because they refused to restructure their labor setup, which was what was making them unsustainable.

Now that the feds refused to let the state put tolls on I80, we’re about six weeks out from the Port Authority eliminating half its routes and employees.

It worked to raise the money, but in the long run couldn’t save the Port Authority on its own.

/moving to a street where the bus route will never get cut because it’s next to a hospital

]]>By: MP IIIhttp://thebiglead.com/2012/08/07/four-penn-state-trustees-file-desperate-appeal-to-lift-ncaa-sanctions/#comment-767888
http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=200351#comment-767888That said, your scenario is different because you were the criminal. Penn State University is an institution. It didn’t rape anyone. Even if you break it down into entities, the tens of thousands of students, faculty, admins, etc knew nothing about this. Yet all those people took the hit.

much like a corporation that gets fined/shut down for the actions of a few. the concept is nothing new.