I was looking forward to that but just learned I will not be able to make it at that time because of THIS. I just, moments ago, received an e-mail notifying me that the electronic cigarette usage ban in Oakley, CA. has been put on the agenda for the city council. Unfortunately the time of the meeting intersects directly with Click-Bang.

I’m sorry I will have to miss out on Click-Bang and Tom but when it comes to making a decision between fighting a local ban we had been preparing to do and going on air to battle an intellectually unarmed opponent the choice is not that hard. Tom and the entertainment value associated with him is just not important enough to distract me from what we’re really supposed to be doing.

Until another time, Tom! I’m sure at some point you’ll get the chance to talk to me. 🙂

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Stefan, what are you are you snipping about? You got your own site where you are insisting that I called you out to a debate? Really? Thanks for telling me that occurred, and twice no less, because it nice to get notified that something happened it your very creative memory.

When on http://www.VapersPlace.com and talking to the hosts there is no way to read chat, and have a conversation concurrently, so if when I said, “if someone disagrees, please call in”, you personalized that to being yourself, fine, but it was an open invitation to all.

Stefan, if you and the chatters were having a dialogue reacting to the Live show on VapersPlace.com, I did not see any of it, and while you got a thrill up your leg, and call a loner, its not like I watch AC360 on CNN, and think Anderson is calling me out personally.

I did not put words in anyone’s mouth, did you listen to the clips? Demetri said what he said, never corrected or implied it was a joke, its a meaningless aside regardless.

“Called all of vapers a cult” Did you listen even? I Did not say that. I am a vaper FWIW. I said that someone was acting like they were their views were the only thing that was “the truth”. The closest parallel I came up with is blind obedience. As it stand my posts on ECF, (which were quotes of FDA regulations and how things work with government created Agencies implementing laws), were deleted, threads closed, and other threads moved off in a limbo section, where only the people who had already commented on the threads could see the thread still.

So what does that look like to you, views not conforming to the gospel being preached, shall be purged. You do comprehend the origins of the Kool-Aid metaphor? Next you accuse me of “claiming to be unverified authority” So the authority I claim is something which I am presenting as unverified, gosh as if I am standing only on the substance of what I am saying….gosh

Why not just call up and get on the VapersPlace.com and say what you got to say. If there is a chat log of whatever you were quibbling about in Chat during the show, please oh please link me up to that. Otherwise the show replay is available.

——> “Why he insists on asking me to debate him, I don’t know” Dude who are you? Did I mention someone who does not go by the handle Stefan? Insists on debating you? The host asked multiple time for anyone to call in, and you did not because of what eh?

Thanks for making me $20. I had a bet with someone in which I said you getting banned from ECF would likely mean you’d be moving up to Reddit. 🙂

Asking me to call in to talk, you did that twice, yes. The most recent being on Click-Bang. When you inquired about callers you mentioned my name specifically and since I am the only one by that name around during said broadcasts I’m pretty sure you meant me. Are you denying that? Do you really want me to waste time to drag up the actual audio portions because you get an enjoyment out of wasting the time of people who have better things to do than give you attention?

I can see why people don’t like you very much. You really do twist words and then claim innocence. Unfortunately, it’s recorded and you can’t change that.

As for you not seeing chat talk. That too is a lie, Tom, and you know it. Or do I now also need to pull up the recording from when you were on and referred to me as Stefan Dick? (Honestly, those immature style comments don’t do anything for me). I honestly don’t care if you wish to continue on that unintelligent path just like when you were in chat and referred to my picture as a dick head. And you wonder why people don’t take you seriously?

The cult thing. Come on Tom. You know what you said during the roundtable and everyone else heard it also and you can get the replay of that easily. You referred to Bill as behaving and/or being considered a cult leader in the context of vapers who happen to agree with him and not you. Go look it up if your short term memory is failing you.

As you know there is no chat log. Would be nice if there was, mind you. There are however the recordings and you are not helping your own case or credibility by denying you said the things you said. As I mentioned before, I have no idea why you’re so “attracted to me” by asking about me, by name, twice on separate occasions when folks were so kind as to give you air time, but twice is enough for me to be interested in giving you what you asked for. Except, unfortunately, that won’t happen on Tuesday because more important things take priority. I am really sorry for that because I know lots of people were looking forward to it.

You know the reason I didn’t call in. I have no interest in debating the one person running around in this community that is generally regarded as somewhere between a lunatic and an agent provocateur. And there was only that 9 minute period to call in and sit around on hold. I had no reason to do so but had I know you’d be asking for me I certainly would have.

Well Stephan It looks like you have cured the infestation of Tommy insecurity. He has moved on to more fertile territory, planting himself at Michael Siegel’s Blog. Where from what I can gather, he is representing himself as a delegate from future Earth. Who is serving as the commander in chief of the massive Vaper army. Sent too our timeline to advise the FDA with futuristic military intelligence methods, to rid the earth of the scourge of smokeless tobacco.

Thanks a heap [wink]

Not to worry though, we are giving him full value for his efforts. We haven’t had this much commotion for a while. Although his curled lower lip, is in serious danger of becoming a permanent facial fixture.