Government Is Coming for Our Guns!

Each and every time patriots dare imply that the government registers guns for future confiscation, they are derided as right-wing, extremist wackos.

Don’t you believe it! In New York state, with the passage of the infringing Safe Act, guns were unlawfully seized from David Lewis, 35, who was wrongfully identified as violating the mental health provision of said act.

BUFFALO, N.Y. — Thursday, a state Supreme Court Judge ruled guns seized from David Lewis, 35, must be returned to him after he was incorrectly identified as violating the mental health provision of the SAFE Act.

“We know that from the health care agency to the State Police, there was some kind of breach,” said Lewis’ attorney, Jim Tresmond.
Tresmond says his client was ordered to turn in his weapons last week because he was once on anti-anxiety medication, which is a violation of the SAFE Act. Wednesday, State Police informed the Erie County Clerk’s Office that it made a mistake when it said Lewis was in violation of the state’s new gun law.

But Tresmond says it was no mistake.

“When they targeted David, they not only targeted him by name, they also targeted him by his pistol permit, so they identified him as David Lewis with this particular pistol permit number on the letter that they sent to him,” said Tresmond.

This is just the first gun grab, and it is frightening beyond belief. Anyone who remembers the timeline of WWII and the Nazi regime will recognize the ominous consequences of such laws. New York is now the pioneer state re the match-up of private health records with gun permits to confiscate firearms.

Amazing, isn’t it? The Aurora, Colorado movie shooter was on all sorts of prescription medications, warned his psychiatrist of violent fantasies and even left her a notebook. That book remains sealed. The defense has argued, successfully thus far, that it is not evidence because it “is part of doctor-patient privileged communication”.

Yet, according to New York’s Tresmond law firm, some of that state’s law enforcement agencies are dipping into private medical records for the purposes of gun confiscation:

John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug.

He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.

I would like to add that the police departments are demanding that whomever turns in a pistol also turn in accessories for that pistol such as magazines, despite the fact that these magazines are not firearms themselves and anyone can purpose a magazine without a pistol license.

Even more troubling was the fact that the police officer taking custody of the pistols cheerily informed the client that “the department” would be destroying his pistols if they were not retrieved within one year. When she was questioned as to what he should do should he choose to sell the pistols out of state, given that he has a property right to the monetary value of the gun, she became confused, her expressions changed to perplexed, and she made a referral to another officer.

Jazz Shaw of Hot Air contemplates how this relates to universal background checks:

This new universal background check bill is the hot ticket in DC right now. You can read the full text of it here, which thus far contains nothing about expanding how one qualifies as “mentally ill” but there are multiple amendments to come, so we don’t even know what will be in the final version. A repeating theme is that it will have to “do something” about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. But how is that to be accomplished? Will it only affect those who have been adjudicated in court to be proven, dangerous, unstable individuals and who have had the opportunity to object to their classification? Or will it be something that slides closer to what we now have in New York?

In this same vein, the Missouri Department of Revenue, which is the issuer of concealed carry permits in the state, may have transmitted private information concerning a CC permit holder to DHS.

Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder held a press conference to announce his involvement in an attempt to stop the Missouri Department of Revenue (DOR) from transmitting this private data to the Federal Government. The data transmission was discovered after a Missouri Resident Eric Griffin’s Concealed Carry permit was denied when he refused to let the DOR scan and transmit his private data to the Feds.

According to LT. Gov. Kinder, this information is not only being turned over to the fed, but also to a private agency in another state. Both actions are specifically prohibited by State Law, and seem like yet another attack on law abiding gun owners.

Kinder, and the Stoddard County Prosecutors, filed legal actions against the Missouri Department of Revenue; late today that action resulted in a temporary restraining order being issued that will force the DOR to stop transmitting this private information to the Feds.

Patriots must be aware and must resist the registration of guns in America. With each passing day another story comes to light, in spite the Main Stream Media’s side-steps, of government usurpation of individual liberty to keep and bear arms. Our forebears shed blood for those rights. Our vets and troops have given the last full measure of devotion for those rights.

This present generation of America and liberty-loving patriots must never relinquish our Constitutionally guaranteed rights, all of which are protected by that which many consider preeminent–the Second Amendment.

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https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

An unarmed man is a subject…An armed man is a citizen

Tonto

Amen!

jack

Get the govt out of our lives.

Johnny

Freedom means you are unobstructed in living your life as you choose. Anything less is a form of slavery.
If you choose to own a firearm – You by the Right To Bare Arms cannot be taken away from you. This Right is God given. Only God can take it away and not any government.

Lib’s say we have a right to bare arms (Yes – you may roll up your sleeves). Conservatives say we have the right to bear arms. (Not to be confused with black or brown bears…) …Posted since the author says she is a grammar Nazi. (I am just trying to help …and have a little fun.)!!

apen

A review of murders mental status’ reveals that those who become unstable are known to those who have contact with them as acting strange if not bizarre but those same people do not act, do not alert anyone who might act and in fact are the real problem. Nobody wants to rat out a friend. That idea needs to be changed to nobody wants their friend to commit murder.

Interestingly congress doesn’t see the public as their friend. Loyalty has no bearing on their reasoning at all.

tionico

even those who ARE aware of such mental issues and DO report to the appropriate people to DO something get ignored. James Holmes’ psychiatrist (Aurora Cinemark) had reported his homicidal behaviour and statements a month before his rampage, and to the proper authorities. They did… nothing but wait until it happened, then showed up for the cleanup and chalklines. The laws, and the means to implement them, ARE in place.. but are ignored. Background checks? Hah….. some 14,000 illegal attempts last year by felons debarred the use of arms were refused…. and only a small handful prosecuted. It is a FEDERAL FELONY to lie on the 4473 form for the BGC…. out of that 14K liars, I’m certain at least a few thousand wilfully did so, and that such wilful violation of the law could easily be prosecuted. Felons in possession? Sure, its another felony… but how often is THIS violation prosecuted fully? Most often it is used as more weight on the sword hanging over the perp’s head, then waived in the plea bargaining stages of what passes for “justice” these days. NO!!! Prosecute EVERY ONE of those violations. ONLY when the risk of getting caught with a gun means ten years in the slammer, no matter what else they get, will such people begin to think it not a good idea.

apen

Indeed there are sheriffs who have the authority to act but don’t. They should be removed by their constituents ASAP.

On the idea that a failed background check is a crime, WRONG ! I found out the ruse here is that most people who fail don’t know why. You see, NICS is not a valid database of persons who have lost a right to keep arms. It is a database of reasons for you to prove to the feds that their records are incomplete. The few that get prosecuted are those who try to buy a gun while an order of protection is in place. The rest are simply notices that you must do something like cause a court to produce records to the feds. Many “felons” were never adjudicated a permanent loss of rights however the feds do not respect state court rulings anyways. You might guess there are reasons for these rulings as not everything in this country is done by police to protect and the same goes for the feds. This is the very reason that the second amendment should not be INFRINGED. Your right to arms is locally controlled not state controlled or federally. If the database of felons was properly assembled by each state from records that were complete and accurate and each state were required to protect it’s citizens from BAD records and BAD courts from other states then I’d say a denial is a denial. The way the system is set up now it’s BS.

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

This is another reason why the Second Amendment will ultimately not protect us. Think about it: Already, the amendment with the wording “shalt not be infringed” is the most infringed, licensed, and limited amendment of the twenty seven, and the day is probably coming when the Second Amendment will be repealed. This is the inherent nature and danger of optional constitutional rights versus non-optional Biblical responsibiities, such as found in 1 Timothy 5:

‘But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house [including spiritual and physical protection], he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (1 Timothy 5:8)

Listen to “The Second Amendment: A Knife in a Gunfight,” preached last month at the Springfield, Missouri Firearms and Freedom Symposium. Click on my name, then our website. Scroll down to our “Featured Messages” about halfway down the home page. There you will also find an interview Larry Pratt (Executive Director of Gun Owners of America) conducted with me on the same subject.

tionico

even if they manage to ilegally repeal the Second Ammendment, our right to arms will remain, as it is God given and CANNOT be taken away by another. These gun grabbers seem to forget this. That collection of words on an old piece of paper is not the source of our right to defend ourselves, our lives, our liberties. The God who created us is the source of that right. Even Cain, the first murderer, was not denied self-defense. Rocks (or clubs, or whatever he used) were not banned, regulated, licensed, taxed, registered, permitted…… HE was banished, yet the command was given to not kill him, to let him live with his shame as an example. His right to life, and the means to defend that, was kept…. though later, that was reversed…. whoever by his hand takes the life of another, by the hand of man shall HE die. We don’t do that anymore… which is a good bit of the reason we have this “war on guns” now. If that penalty were restored to its rightful use, and murderers quickly but fairly tried and, if convicted on the testimony of two or more witnesses, they should be executed forthwith. No more of this coddling, dragging things out for so many decades no one can remember what happened any longer….. it is as anti-biblical as removing our God-given right to self-defense, and defense against a tyrannical enslaving government.

http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

Thanks for responding Tionico. Please consider that the Bible knows nothing of optional rights. On the other hand, it’s replete with non-optional responsibilities. Rights are a bill of goods that helped to sell us down the river. See blog article “Rights, Rights, Everyone Wants Their Rights.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our blog and scroll down to title.

Oneyeopn

Molon Labe…..I hunt, we eat what I hunt. I target shoot, I stay well practiced. Please don’t try to take them, please.

Daniel F. Melton

They won’t like the reaction if they do try to take our guns.

Dan S.

Well, so much for the hippa law. You know, the one that does not allow even our spouses to have access to our medical records unless we specify they can have it. It’s pretty bad when the feds, (to whom we are NOT married), can have unlimited access to our medical records and the very person we ARE married to cannot access the information without our written permission.
What a horrible joke.

DrSique

HIPPA, due process, 2nd Amendment!!! Cuomo is walking all over the Bill of Rights and it has become obvious that he is nothing more than a budding tyrant who needs to be relieved of his position in Albany ASAP.

kbatface

I will be giving money ALL OVER THE COUNTRY whenever I can to oust any politician who votes for this bill and has a challenger who is a solid 2nd ammendment supporter. And we also need to give to the NRA so they can advertise against the politicians who don’t stand for our freedoms!

Ethan Ellingson

Personally I think I would rather be dead than hand my weapons over to some fed whose pention is paid by my taxes.

DrSique

As General Patton stated(paraphrased), “Noone ever won a war by dying for his country, wars are won by making the other SOB die for his.”

Ethan Ellingson

Lord willing it won’t be me doing the dying.

Tonto

Quotes list from history and current citations linked to source;

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil.” — Dietrich Bonhoeffer

“Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid.” — Ronald Reagan

“The most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’.” — Ronald Reagan

“The world is indeed full of peril and in it there are many dark places. But still there is much that is fair. And though in all lands, love is now mingled with grief, it still grows, perhaps, the greater.”
— J. R. R. Tolkien

Remember our veterans.
All gave some; some gave all.
Rest in peace my brothers.

“The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing.” – Jean Baptiste Colbert (1619-1693), French economist and Minister of Finance under King Louis XIV

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” — George Washington

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” — Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers, p. 184-188

“The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” — Samuel AdamsQuotes list

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil.” — Dietrich Bonhoeffer

“Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid.” — Ronald Reagan

“The most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’.” — Ronald Reagan

“The world is indeed full of peril and in it there are many dark places. But still there is much that is fair. And though in all lands, love is now mingled with grief, it still grows, perhaps, the greater.”
— J. R. R. Tolkien

Remember our veterans.
All gave some; some gave all.
Rest in peace my brothers.

“The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing.” – Jean Baptiste Colbert (1619-1693), French economist and Minister of Finance under King Louis XIV

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” — George Washington

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” — Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers, p. 184-188

“The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” — Samuel Adams

“A government that doesn’t trust its law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms itself is unworthy of trust.” — James Madison

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

Remember our veterans.
All gave some; some gave all.
Rest in peace my brothers.

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” — Mohandas Ghandi, An Autobiography, Part V, Chapter XXVII, page 446.

911 may take a few minutes to reach your house. My AR15 responds at 3,200 feet per second.

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” — George Washington

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” — Alexander Hamilton

“The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” — Samuel Adams

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

“A government that doesn’t trust its law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms itself is unworthy of trust.” — James Madison

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

Remember our veterans.
All gave some; some gave all.
Rest in peace my brothers.

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” — Mohandas Ghandi, An Autobiography, Part V, Chapter XXVII, page 446.

911 may take a few minutes to reach your house. My AR15 responds at 3,200 feet per second.

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” — George Washington

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” — Alexander Hamilton

“The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” — Samuel Adams

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

Damian

Of the people by the people and for the people, if you forget why we have a second amendment you need to read only so far as the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence where it explains what circumstances are necessary to defend a free people from an oppressive government.

Ron Beal

Government is not a ‘friend’ of anyone. When ‘they’ speak in the collective, they think they have the power, not the people. Having said that, ‘they’ are cowards and rule by force and intimidation, like a bully in grammar or high school. Once they are knocked on their ass, they become a little more humble. The ‘government’ will have to be dealt a severe blow to wake them up. Since ‘they’ have considerable force, and many allies, the wake-up call will have to be extreme, in the same discipline, i.e., force/violence. A one-million man, armed force marching on Washington, DC would get their attention. Unfortunately, if it was announced, each car/truck would have to gun their way to DC. The government would use every possible defence to prevent a massing. Every overpass, National Guard and Armed Forces would attempt to block and/or destroy the onslaught of the people. BUT, that is what ‘they’ need. A million armed people surrounding the Black House would cause a change of mind. Can you ‘see’ all auto surrounding the BH in flames simultaneously? “Wake up B, there is someone outside!”

Daniel F. Melton

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. Winston Churchill

Tonto

So HIPAA laws that protect your medical information can be shared with the “Brownshirts?”
This can not ethically be shared with spouse without permission.

Wouldn’t our founding fathers be pleased at this abomination of bureaucracy?

http://www.divinenewsnetwork.com/ DNN

My 2nd Amendment declars if you or anyone infringes our rights you are Domestic Terrorists and we will treat you as such.

Berzrkr50

These gun grabbers are nothing less than traitors and are unfit to call America home. My suggestion is that they move to North Korea or Iran to live in the type of country that they desire. Molon Labe!

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