skatingtripods wrote:Say what you want about Kiper, but when I hear "average athlete", that doesn't thrill me.

Stop watching ESPN and switch to NFL Network.

"Wins ugly""Great technique and angles""Really stepped up at the Senior Bowl"

Hey, might not be true but at least it's more positive than the WWL.

Meanwhile, Josh Cribbs does cartwheels knowing his agent can still demand WR money instead of just Punt Return money. Not sure which is worse - watching MoMass, Cribbs and Little break the huddle, or Oriel Cousins at RT.

Cousins at RT is worse. So actually a good pick, assuming the kid starts right away.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

skatingtripods wrote:Say what you want about Kiper, but when I hear "average athlete", that doesn't thrill me.

Stop watching ESPN and switch to NFL Network.

"Wins ugly""Great technique and angles""Really stepped up at the Senior Bowl"

Hey, might not be true but at least it's more positive than the WWL.

Meanwhile, Josh Cribbs does cartwheels knowing his agent can still demand WR money instead of just Punt Return money. Not sure which is worse - watching MoMass, Cribbs and Little break the huddle, or Oriel Cousins at RT.

Cousins at RT is worse. So actually a good pick, assuming the kid starts right away.

ESPN is fucking disgusting shithead network that employs assholes and other assorted people i'd like to see fed to bears. Mother fucking scum sucking asshole network. I hate them all. A worthless pile of shitsucking anal cysts that push their own cunty agenda.

Draft Strategy 101 for Cleveland....Give 3 seemingly insignificant picks to move up one place and assure you get what most observers believe to be superb running back, then with first pick on second day, draft OT whose biggest downside, according to most of those same observers, is a glaring inability to run block. "WINNING!"

"Well....I suppose if this were any other team, I might find the whole thing funny. In fact if this were any other team I might just fuckin'DIElaughin'!!!"

skatingtripods wrote:Say what you want about Kiper, but when I hear "average athlete", that doesn't thrill me.

Stop watching ESPN and switch to NFL Network.

"Wins ugly""Great technique and angles""Really stepped up at the Senior Bowl"

Hey, might not be true but at least it's more positive than the WWL.

Meanwhile, Josh Cribbs does cartwheels knowing his agent can still demand WR money instead of just Punt Return money. Not sure which is worse - watching MoMass, Cribbs and Little break the huddle, or Oriel Cousins at RT.

Cousins at RT is worse. So actually a good pick, assuming the kid starts right away.

Thanks MV, I don't get NFL network at work so appreciate hearing the other side of the coin.

Can I take a min to point out again what a miserable, money-grubbing whore Rodger Goddell is for changing the draft format?

You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves-----Abe Lincoln

Let me tell you, if any of you douchebag empty headed stuffed suit nanny politicians tries to fuck with my bacon, I’m going after you like a crazed chimpanzee on bath salts. -----Lars

Xukuth wrote:Draft Strategy 101 for Cleveland....Give 3 seemingly insignificant picks to move up one place and assure you get what most observers believe to be superb running back, then with first pick on second day, draft OT whose biggest downside, according to most of those same observers, is a glaring inability to run block. "WINNING!"

NFL Network guys said just the opposite - very good run blocker, weaker in pass pro. It's actually the pick I am most happy about.

P.S. I am still relatively sober, so I hope I am not confusing anyone with my sunny disposition and positive outlook.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

Xukuth wrote:Draft Strategy 101 for Cleveland....Give 3 seemingly insignificant picks to move up one place and assure you get what most observers believe to be superb running back, then with first pick on second day, draft OT whose biggest downside, according to most of those same observers, is a glaring inability to run block. "WINNING!"

Really?

Be honest. Do you know anything, anything at all, about Schwartz? Other than Kiper had him rated a little bit lower than he was selected?

skatingtripods wrote:Say what you want about Kiper, but when I hear "average athlete", that doesn't thrill me.

Stop watching ESPN and switch to NFL Network.

"Wins ugly""Great technique and angles""Really stepped up at the Senior Bowl"

Hey, might not be true but at least it's more positive than the WWL.

Meanwhile, Josh Cribbs does cartwheels knowing his agent can still demand WR money instead of just Punt Return money. Not sure which is worse - watching MoMass, Cribbs and Little break the huddle, or Oriel Cousins at RT.

Cousins at RT is worse. So actually a good pick, assuming the kid starts right away.

Thanks MV, I don't get NFL network at work so appreciate hearing the other side of the coin.

Can I take a min to point out again what a miserable, money-grubbing whore Rodger Goddell is for changing the draft format?

More DUI revenue with this format.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

skatingtripods wrote:My big issue is how tested can Schwartz be in the Pac-12?

SEC keeps churning out first and second round DL left and right. Would, inherently, think that a SEC OT would be more battle tested.

Guess Schwartz does have a brother who has spent 5 years in the NFL.

A couple more Makers Mark and I'll be back to my usual depressing cynical self, but according to the talking heads on NFLN, the kid acquitted himself well at the Senior Bowl, blocking those SEC studs. Not a full season's worth of experience, but apparently he was drafted based on a good week of practice.

BTW, I really hope no one is actually listening to Mel Kiper and believing anything that hack says. That would be like listening to CDT about pizza.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

I've made my peace with the Richardson pick. He'll be fine. I like Weeden. I don't think anyone here has a freaking clue about the talent level of Schwartz. We need help there and we drafted a guy to play there.

scrambler wrote:I've made my peace with the Richardson pick. He'll be fine. I like Weeden. I don't think anyone here has a freaking clue about the talent level of Schwartz. We need help there and we drafted a guy to play there.

Agree wholeheartedly.

But, at this point it's damn near impossible to seperated the "piss and moan" out of the typical Browns fan.