after lurking around here and at SF, it seems that most people try to get awesome fades and contrast, and flathead seems to be the winner in the category.

but i'm wondering what's the toughest jean to get fades on? i love the dark raw feel and would like to keep it for as long as possible. i hear that iron hearts are pretty tough, any others i should consider?

but i'm wondering what's the toughest jean to get fades on? i love the dark raw feel and would like to keep it for as long as possible.

I'm not sure you'll get the texture of raw to stay around for a long time, but with just about any of the natural indigo jeans you probably won't get much of a fade. Most are dipped so many times that the indigo goes almost all the way to the core.

I'm not sure you'll get the texture of raw to stay around for a long time, but with just about any of the natural indigo jeans you probably won't get much of a fade. Most are dipped so many times that the indigo goes almost all the way to the core.

true, but after seeing so many pics of jeans being worn to a bleached white, it kinda reminds me of those crappy pre-distressed denim that are sand blasted to hell, which is pretty repulsive to me. i dont really mind about the raw texture going away, just as long as it stays dark with only subtle fades

true, but after seeing so many pics of jeans being worn to a bleached white, it kinda reminds me of those crappy pre-distressed denim that are sand blasted to hell, which is pretty repulsive to me. i dont really mind about the raw texture going away, just as long as it stays dark with only subtle fades

Does anyone have any experience with the PBJ xx-007? I am trying to figure out what size to get and if the rise is ball bustingly low? I know BIG has measurements on their site but I've seen a couple pics of people wearing them and they didn't seem to be the 9inch Rise like BIG says. So im kind of confused. Anyone can offer any help to me just PM me or post back here. Thanks I would really appreciate it. BTW, Im about 5'7-5'8 165 wear a 30 in RRDS 29 in APC if that means anything.