Dave and Joren get together and talk about CBS's new opus Star Trek: Discovery and if it has merit or not. They also talk about Baby Driver, 4th dates, living in a carboard box nightmare, if Luke's Light Saber would draw in tourists, profits from vaunted overseas ticket sales being crap, the next five Fantastic Beasts movies, Lootcrate, Sense8 and the danger of leaving a season on a cliffhanger without securing the next season, Wonder Woman, and Brent Spiner as the Joker. Enjoy!