Speculation On Motives Of Co-Pilot Andreas Lubitz

Reports coming in confirm that it’s likely co-pilot Andreas Lubitz intentionally brought down Flight #4U9525 and crashed it into a mountainside. A lone photo of Lubitz sitting near what looks like the Golden Gate Bridge shows a beta-ish looking European man with a kind face.

I speculate on his motives for killing 150 people.

1. He had a schizophrenic break from reality. One report claimed he had taken six months off from flight school to combat “burn-out”. If a mental disorder caused him to snap, people will begin to wonder if we can pretest pilot applicants for susceptibility to paranoia. The Minority Report of the future may not be used to identify would-be criminals as much as used to identify people with hidden mental diseases capable of symptomatically erupting later in life that make them high risk candidates for jobs requiring responsibility over the lives of others.

2. Beta male rage. He suffered a recent breakup and took it out on himself and 150 strangers.

3. Omega male rage. One of the passengers was a woman (or man) he distantly loved, but couldn’t have, and in a fit of spite decided to kill his fantasy amour the only way he knew how.

4. Terrorist mole. We’ve had a spate of planes going down because of pilot treachery. Have secretive terror-sponsoring societies filled flight schools with terrorist moles? Talk about the long game…

5. Acute depression. Can depression really drive someone to kill? I thought very depressed people are prone to retreating to solitude, away from public activity.

6. Muslim convert. No evidence of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the media Hivemind keeps this kind of info under wraps for the duration of public interest. Very little of his Facebook profile is revealing:

His Facebook page lists his interests, including German electronica band Schiller, French superstar DJ David Guetta, his local Burger King, 10-pin bowling, aviation humour and a technical website about the A320 model of aircraft he flew into a mountainside.

Dat last part. How droll.

7. Bowling and Burger King are traditionally prole pastimes. Maybe Lubitz was a prole who, by dint of hard work and native gifts, elevated himself into the upper class. While there, he came to hate his upper class peers. He took out his resentment on them in spectacular fashion. Or maybe his anodyne Facebook interests are a clever misdirection to fool people about his true beliefs.

8. Lubitz hated his co-pilot for personal reasons. Not sure why he felt the need to kill innocents along with his main target.

9. Globalized elite conspiracy to firm up their authority. Why not? A global elite conspiracy is more believable now than at any time in the recent past.

10. There were a bunch of noted globalist liberals in the passenger list. Lubitz somehow knew this beforehand, and pulled an Anders Breivik, taking out scores of the enemy in one revolutionary blow.

My bet is on #1: A schizoid break from reality. The next time you’re boarding a plane, look the pilot right in the eye. Does he seem off to you? If so, reschedule your flight.

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UPDATE

Commenter Days of Broken Arrows thinks Lubitz was on anti-depressants, and that these drugs have a history of occasionally causing users to snap, which Big Pharma in cahoots with Big Davos covers up. There is evidence that Lubitz took time off for “depression”. Was he on “approved” drugs for his mental illness? Would 150 people be alive today if society hadn’t deemed it helpful to shovel mouthfuls of psychotropic drugs down the throats of depressed people?

Commenter Bill offers a larger view which rings true:

Anomie. Expect more psychotic incidents as the West grows increasingly unmoored from any coherent social paradigm.

Some people can handle radical individualism and social atomization in a sea of increasing materialist diversity. But most people can’t. Unmoored is the right word to describe it all.

PS I think there’s more to Lubitz’s actions than garden variety suicidal tendencies. Suicide is a loner’s province. But someone who takes out 150 innocents on his escape from the binds of the flesh has other motivations than simple self-loathing or gloomy hopelessness. He has hatred in his heart. Who did Lubitz hate, and why did he hate them? Is a side effect of schizophrenia a scatter-shot hatred of everyone in sight?

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Extracts from the flight recorder suggest he locked his pilot out of the cockpit and then crashed the plane. Psychotic breaks can strike at any time; it’s likely that the factors you listed above all contributed to the eventual breaking of his will to live. Whether his intent was premeditated or a crime or passion, we’ll likely never know.

Two of the biggest betas/doormats I’ve ever known were commercial pilots. Betting they both let their obese fembeasts peg them. Maybe there’s something about wanting to spend all your time off the ground that leads to moments like this guy had. Still way safer than driving.

Pilots get pussy. There are betas in all walks of life, but many fewer in high status careers like this one. The trolley dollies (female and homo) would be throwing themselves at him/his pay cheque, whether he welcomed it or not. I reckon we can rule that out and focus on whether he had a screw loose.

To counter that, my brother’s buddy is an EMT/commercial pilot. Average looks and height, and one of the most natural, incorrigible ass-tapping poon-masters I have ever known. Flies all over the world, does as he damn well pleases. Even keeps a little black book, cause he’s old fashioned like that.

Although they are much more resistant to it, men can burn out participating in the CC as well. I’ve talked to plenty of guys that have said that they wished they had been with LESS women so that they could be more into the one they’re settled with.

I think life in general just has a way of chewing people up and making them jaded.

After I heard he had a German name (as opposed to err..a more middle eastern type) that was what I thought of too; Elliott Rodgers. Even though Rodgers was decent looking and from a somewhat Hollywoodish family, he couldn’t use that to get girls because of a personality disorder. Could be the same thing here with this co pilot.

Once he’s outside he could be forced to anything by hijackers, thumbprint is insecure since his corpse can easily be dragged over to the door. Don’t think there is a good reason for the flight crew to ever leave the cockpit in the air (other than money, since installing a toilet reduces profit)

I’ve been watching the reports about the co-pilot and the phrase “beta male rampage” popped into my mind; None of the reports mentioned any girlfriend. He might have been a frustrated homosexual (that picture taken close to San Francisco is interesting). Or it’s possible that he consistently struck out with women, but couldn’t understand why; he was a reasonably good looking young man with a steady, if unspectacular job. Finally, seeing no real future and mad at the world, he decided to end it and make some kind of a statement.by taking 149 people and one expensive airplane with him. Whiskeysplace website predicted that we might see this kind of behavior: a technologicaly competent beta males lashing out and killing 149 people simply by adjusting an autopilot and manipulating a lock switch. Game might have saved these lives! This does not bode well for the future.

My thought (and I haven’t seen this expressed elsewhere) is that this was rage directed at his employer. Perhaps they recently put him on probation? Perhaps his boss pissed him off? Pay cut? Reprimand? Obviously, my theory dovetails into and with some of the above theories, but it isn’t unreasonable to believe he was biting the hand that feeds in the worst way he knew how.

Yeah and more important, had a job that would pay enough for decent housing. About half of Europeans his age don’t make enough money for that.

Pilots are’t super well paid on cheap airlines but they do make enough for that.

My guess is he had some personal issues, depression and took anti-depressants which turn a certain number of users into spree killers. The side effect no one wants to talk about basically. This was the airline version of a spree shooting basically.

Nice list, but you left out a big one: He was on some sort of anti-depressant or psychotropic drug that screwed his brain.

From what I gather, virtually all of the mass shooters in America were on these drugs. One of the “side effects” is suicide. What these mass shooters did and what this co-pilot did is commit suicide — they just took other people with them.

Viewing it from that perspective makes a big difference. But since Big Pharma is a major advertiser in media, you won’t be getting that from NBC, CBS, or ABC. And I’m writing this as a veteran of one of those networks.

I do not know about Germans, but I read a book a few years ago in which they had numbers, and France was one of the highest user of anti-depressants and other such drugs, it would not surprise me that Germany which is like a one hour drive away is the same as France.

I have friends family in Germany so this case has touched me more. This pilot and his friends seem to be nice beta effeminate guys typical of the modern Germany such is the tragic tale of what Germany has become today. Also due to a lack of living space, there is a lack of houses and apartments in Germany. This pilot lived at home with his parents at the age of 28 which is common. This must have created natural frustrations to be approaching 30 and still be a “child”

I think you are right. The vermin at Big Pharma have massive amounts of blood on their hands. I think this trash that Big Pharma gets the depressed and the anxious put on is responsible for hundreds of spree killings like this and millions of suicides. Big Pharma has committed a virtual genocide with the psychotropic garbage it puts out and yet no one comes after them for the countless lives lost so these (oftentimes YKW owned) companies can make a profit. One would think that the ambulance chasing lawyers would smell the class action potential in all of this but I hear that Big Pharma is so powerful and so prepared legally to fight that most lawyers won’t bother trying to bring them down. The lawyers want easy money apparently instead of making slimeballs pay for the incredible harm they’ve caused and preventing them from injuring/killing those who will be damaged/dead in the future after a doctor puts them on this trash.

In 1950s America there were far fewer gun laws and far less gun crime. Around that time or if it was around 1900 you could buy a shotgun in London, no problem. Still no mass killings, no rampage.

Conservatism is sane, looking for facts, asking people to accept the facts, because conservatism is focused on building. Socialism is insane, telling people to ignore facts, because it is focused on taking and needs excuses for doing so. That creates insane followers and drives honest, fact-searching people to depression.

It will not end. There will only be more “Why? How could this happen? Why did he do this?” We must increase surveillance, we’ll hear. It’s the only way, at least the only allowed way. Up the doses in school. Put everyone on therapy. Put the posters with happy faces everywhere, along with the warnings. Let everyone know they must be nice and we are watching you at all times. Put society in a straitjacket.

Since it was a German plane, how about a German ditty to proclaim the new times:

In-a-gadda-da-vida baby
God is dead he lost the battle
The devil rules over life and death
Feel his power, feel his wrath

Hell – this is the paradise of sin
Fail – and you will suffer in pain
Nail – that son of disaster
Sell – your soul to the master

In the garden of evil, baby
The bible’s title is helter skelter
Take a ride on this rollercoaster
Live for sin and die faster

Find out if there was anyone on the passenger list high up in banking, investigating, or science, particularly biological weapons research, or a reporter who has a high degree of involvement with the ME.

I said the bio weapons research because there was a spate of bio weapons guys who were getting suicided, I think a few were also on the Malaysian plane that got taken out a while back.

This has the marks of a hit. Especially given the rash of suiciding that’s been done lately. The only question is who was on that plane doing something worth taking out 150 people over.

Btw, this doesn’t necesaarily mean it was done by “bad” people or “good” people, but my gut is saying this was a hit and not a case of omega rage, although I’m not ruling it out.

Update: According to a Daily News article, “Andreas Lubitz, co-pilot blamed for Germanwings crash, took time off for depression: report,” he had a girlfriend and planned to marry next year.

If I post a link, moderation will kill my comment, so just google that headline. The article is by Rachelle Blinder, and here are some quotes:

“A friend said he had so much to live for — he planned to marry next year, Dutch journalist Victor Schildkamp reported.

“Why would a man of 28 with a good job, girlfriend and good life commit suicide? That can not be,” a neighbor said.

I’m getting tired of the manosphere looking at everything through the lens of “Omega rage” (especially the Vox Day at Alpha Game, whose “analysis” was completely off the mark if this article is to be believed).

The manosphere is getting like feminists who reflexively blame everything women do wrong on “patriarchy.” That’s as much BS as “Omega rage.” The same goes for the massively mentally ill Elliot Rodger, who could not have been helped by 1,000 Don Juans.

Sometimes, there is mental illness that strikes people and you can’t super-impose a political agenda on it. We’re getting as limited by our belief systems as feminists, and that’s not a good thing.

There just doesn’t seem to be any reliable way to detect imminent emergence of the inner beast. Schizophrenics and the clinically depressed are generally pretty obvious. And it’s a trope that psychoactive drugs “cause” people to become murderous…though they can release the beast.

Perhaps a little too paranoid, but French authorities and Airbus have a lot at stake: An insane pilot is a lot better cover than another glitch with their computer safety systems overriding the pilot again.

I too thought the trajectory of the landing looked like a safety measure designed to emulate a landing of sorts – it’s just that the mountains got in the way – had the geography been flat then the plane and passengers might have survived… like an emergency landing scenario. Could very well be that the simple story here is a safety system ‘glitch’ blamed on a crazy lone beta male. Good one JWRebel ~ I’m going with your idea for now.

Reinforced door is why captain could not re-enter cockpit. May I point out? 9/11/2001 leads to reinforced doors so terrorists can’t get in to harm pilot. Now this reinforced door has succeeded in keeping the captain from getting back into cockpit.

There is no mechanical defense against human evil and stupidity when it wants to kill people.

Some might suggest having an armed guard protect the pilot. Well, the armed guard might be the beta who decides to kill.

Therefore we must enjoy every day as much as possible, because we never know what will happen in the next 5 minutes.

1) Why didn’t he simply point the plane straight down once the pilot left?
2) Why fly a relatively gentle glide slope into a mountain side?
3) I agree, there’s more going on here than a simple suicide. If he wanted to make his last death “spectacular” why not fly the aircraft into some high value target such as a city, etc.
4)Germans/Professionals (as a rule) are reserved and have good emotional control. He may have been keeping up a decent facade whilst his interior world was crumbling without much outward sign. (speculation here)

All in all, it doesn’t make much sense so that’s why I’m gunning for the psychotic option. The “logic” of the psychotic is convoluted and makes no sense to normal people.

As for the argument the SSRI’s made me do it, it’s just the contemporary materialist equivalent to the Devil made me do it. They don’t take away agency.

Then again, there is the problem of evil, and the guy may have been perfectly normal.

“a prole who, by dint of hard work and native gifts, elevated himself into the upper class. While there, he came to hate his upper class peers.”
Seriously not, landlord. Pilots of commercial aircraft are essentially remote-controlled bus-drivers. A job so boring and life-limiting it would do most peoples heads in fairly quick-smart. The (necessary) system involved in performing the task owns their very souls. Operatives. Hands. Skilled, but …

(According to my old man, after a life spent navigating/bomb-aiming in combat aircraft (latterly with The Bomb itself), and then pushing tin in Atlantic Control for the rest of his career. Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he? Always very wary of new bugs on that job who had “aircraft” as their listed hobby).

He strikes me as a product of his culture: Born into a post christian nation, raised from age 3 on by the State. From his earliest years it was instilled into him and his peers the necessity for the individual to die and the collective to be embraced. The mere mention of a Creator is openly ridiculed.Finally the futility of the godless, spirit draining struggle -that he knows as modern living -hits him. He’s hit the wall and in doing so probably figures he’s doing everyone else a favor by taking them all out with him. In his sick mind he’s alleviating them from the empty end that he himself is experiencing. When the State is tasked with raising children from cradle to grave – this is the predictable result.

Psychotic break from reality caused by psychiatric drugs? Pretty terrifying when you consider ~25-50% of western White women are taking them, methinks the rate of crazy chicks killing people is going to skyrocket in the near future.

[CH: maybe women express their psychotic breaks differently than men, like, for instance, by suddenly and inexplicably cucking husbands and banging a train of high school badboys.]

I should mention something else regarding these psychotropic drugs. They cause “breaks from reality” more often than people realize.

A neighbor of mine was on anti-depressants and for some reason — no one knows why — started thinking some of her appliances had cameras in them. So she took a hammer to them. She flooded the place, and holed herself up inside. Finally paramedics took her away.

When she returned she said “they changed my meds.” She’s been fine ever since. But what does that say about psychiatry that this kind of thing goes on and they’re like “la de dah, we’ll just change meds!” Idiots.

Also, think about what else could have happened to her if the neighbors hadn’t made it a point to call the cops and paramedics to her flooded place.

I really don’t look forward to the massive manosphere circle jerk that’s going to go on over this guy. Vox Day already had at it (poorly) and judging from Twitter, Rollo Tomassi seems ready to have an orgasm over it. So….

Once again, this guy was engaged, according to his neighbors. Unless they’re lying, this isn’t Elliott Rodger, people, and every event doesn’t slot neatly into pre-conceived manosphere conspiracy theories. Sometimes guys who get laid a lot snap — especially when drugs are involved.

[CH: someone tweeted a dailymail update on the lubitz story, in which it was alleged cops found evidence on his home computer that he had suffered a recent breakup. it might be too soon to write off the beta male rage hypothesis. or, more accurately, the beta male rage + psychotropic drug-induced paranoia hypothesis.]

I read that too in the Daily Mail. But today, there is evidence that he was mentally unfit to fly and he hid that from authorities and flew anyway. Apparently, there was a doctor’s note banning him from flying, and he tore it up.

I’m sure everyone here and at Alpha Game and Rollo Tomassi will say that “game” could have cured his several mental illness much the way feminists blamed “patriarchy” when Andrea Yates killed her children.

“GERMANWINGS co-pilot Andreas Lubitz reportedly suffered a major breakdown following a recent relationship breakdown, media reports in Europe say.
According to England’s The Telegraph, Lubitz was engaged to be married next year, but had recently broken up with his fiancee. It is understood that the 28-year-old was struggling to cope after the relationship failed.”

There are some crazy theories on this site! But really, NO-ONE, not even a jihadi can do this without a change in breathing. Adrenaline would prevent that. It HAD to be a psychotic break. The poor guy did not know what he was doing.

I think he was an angry repressed homosexual. Serious case of gay face. Narrow shouldered sap. His work was short haul flights across Europe so his stay in San Francisco likely wasn’t work, he went there deliberately.

Mental issues, antidepressants, all this paints a picture of an unbalanced angry homosexual.

Maybe he heard voices, and the latest directlive from the voices was to down the plane… Paranoid schizophrenics are cunning enough not to tell anyone about their delusions and can pass themselves off as perfectly normal and affable. Just another plausible theory that would fit his behaviour. Following the voices’ command in a deadpan unemotional way and with no hidden motive.

cherchez la femme. He was deeply fucked up over a break up. Many pilots screw airhostesses. If the object of his oneitis was actually one of the trolley dollies then maybe he decided then and there to teach her a lesson. Yes I’m surmising. Evil fucker though

Meanwhile Bild, the German newspaper, reported that “Lubitz had a serious relationship crisis with his girlfriend before the disaster and the resulting heartbreak is thought to have led to this,” said Bild. “Investigators are currently pursuing this line of enquiry with vigour.”