Does anyone know a US/Online retailer that carries the Patterson Light (I know they were limited to 500 pairs). At the moment the only place I can even see them having been sold is Rakuten and I'd rather not go that route. Local shop has regular lights for 230 but holding out in the hopes of finding pattersons to match my the color of my Nomad jacket.

I'm trying to find the right size for Danner's Stumptown Mountain Trail. I've got shoes varying from size 10 Converses to size 11 Salomons and everything in between. I had read about sizing down half a number but also read about sizing up half a number for thicker socks.

So I ordered size 11 Mountain Trails to have room for a thicker sock (for Finnish winters) but found out that they were huge. I'm returning them, but since I really like how they look, I'm ordering again and I want to find the right size this time.

I think I have to choose between 10 and 10,5 but can't figure out which. I've been reading through your great examples and shoe size lists but since I haven't got the same footwear I can't really compare.

Thus I'm asking whether any of you that have found the perfect fit could share your Danner shoe and foot size information: length / width? My feet are approximately 277 mm long and 105 mm wide, what number would you recommend?

My Danners fit great for walking around town and light hiking, but I would want a size 10.5 for serious back packing so as to avoid turf toe. I have a pair of regular MT Lights for hiking and a pair of Overtons for the city. Both are some of the most comfortable footwear I have ever owned.

TIMBERLAND 6" PREMIUM WHEAT: 10US fits like a glove (w/a little toe room to spare), 10.5US would probably be better for full orthotics(?)

DANNER MOUNTAIN LIGHT: 10US fits like a glove (w/a little toe room to spare when worn w/their airthotics), 10.5US would probably be better for full orthotics(?). I haven't tried a 10.5US so I can't really make a just statement.

CASUAL

CLARKS WALLABEES: 9.5US

COLE HAAN LUNAR SOLE: TBD

DOC MARTINS: 10US fits like a glove, but in hindsight, would purchase a 10.5US for use with orthotics

**** ON ANOTHER NOTE, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT SHOULD ORTHOTICS ALWAYS BE PURCHASED FOR BOOTS? I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF SIZING UP TO FIT ORTHOTICS IN MY FOOTWEAR UNLESS THE SHOE IS JUST COMPLETELY HELL TO WEAR BC I DON'T LIKE SHOE'S BEING ANY BIGGER THAN THEY ARE MEANT TO BE.