There are very few hereditary Lords in the House…they are mostly life peerages now, but he’s one of the 92 relics elected to remain after the 1999 reforms. And he’s only a baron, which puts him on the bottom rung (if you don’t count that 19th century confection ‘baronet’!!!!)

I cannot even IMAGINE Mr. Hylton being “merry, light-hearted, joyous, and fun to be with” at ANY time. So why he’s hankering after the word “gay” having just that one single meaning, I can’t for the like of me make out!

Perhaps the word ‘gay’ would not have needed to be ‘appropriated’ if all the words the much of the straight world were not used in the pejorative/negative sense. So, even if the word was ‘appropriated’ as Lord Hylton says, the homophobic straights have only themselves to blame!

In other words, “find another seperate but equal word which carries all the connotations of ‘Civil partnership'”.
And perhaps whilst he’s at it he can table a bill to give us the back seats of the bus and seperate water fountains.
What is it with their “marriage is a precious finite resource which becomes null and void if we share it with teh gays” crap?
With any luck this amendment will die on its ass too.

Perhaps the word ‘gay’ would not have needed to be ‘appropriated’ if the words used by homophobic straights* were not used in the pejorative/negative sense. So, even if the word was ‘appropriated’, as Lord Hylton purports, the homophobic straights* have only themselves to blame!
*NB Not all straights are homophobes.

Oh, I dispute that – it depends on the version of the legend one subscribes to, but I have heard the original St. Nicholas came from Spain, but then again it is a modern invention that has reinvented Christmas.

He seems fond of dictionaries, so he needs to open one and examine it!

He will see that 1000s of English words have many more than just ONE meaning! And he will see that 1000s of words have meanings which are markedly separate and different.

So why Mr. Hylton’s problem with the word “gay” having more than just the meaning “merry, joyous, and light-hearted”?

Reason: because actually Mr. Hylton would consider ANY word in the English language DESPOILED if is associated with homosexuals, who, according to him, are utterly filthy, vile, despicable, and fifth-rate creatures!

Long before “gay” became as commonly associated with “homosexual” as it is now, Mr. Hylton appears completely IGNORANT of the fact that way back in the mid nineteenth century “gay” was a word applied to a certain kind of HETEROSEXUAL WOMAN!

The Oxford English Dictionary advises that “gay” was once slang for a woman “leading an immoral life, living by prostitution”.

Examples:

1825, in C. M. Westmacott Eng. Spy II. 22: “Two sisters—both gay.

1857, in J. E. Ritchie Night Side Lond. 40: “The gay women, as they are termed, are worse off than American slaves.”

1868, in The Sunday Times, 19 July 5/1: “As soon as ever a woman has ostensibly lost her reputation, we, with a grim inappositeness, call her ‘gay’.”

1885, in The Hull & Linc. Times 26 Dec. 8/4: “She was leading a gay life.”

Why haven’t you been SCREECHING about this “appalling” meaning of the word “gay”, Mr. Hylton?

‘Gay’ was also used to refer to male prostitutes, or anyone who was considered sexually deviant at the time. So ‘gay’ has been used to describe homosexual men before the word ‘homosexual’ even existed.

JerBear, an amendment is a proposal to add to or alter a Bill. Procedurally amendments can hold things up. And in terms of legislative effect amendments can substantially alter a Bill. So, what we’re getting from these homophobes in the House of Lords is procedural hold-up AND an attempt to kill the efficacy of the Bill by substantially altering it by way of amendments.

Right now there are real battles going on in the committee rooms, with certain lords demanding killing amendments and other lords arguing the case against such amendments. We’re heavily reliant at this stage on the debating skills of those lords who are for the Bill (without the wrecking amendments).

This old tosser could do a far better job pretending to be Father Christmas at Selfridges with a ridiculous beard like that. Another wind-bag pissing in the wind. He’s goin nowhere with this and nor are the other loons.

These wrecking amendments all need to be rejected – if the bill is unacceptable to us, even if passed, there will be no closure, no end, we will be back, demonstrating, protesting, voting only for a government which will give us true equality. We will not stop, we will not sleep, we will not waiver until we have equality, full and complete equality — and that includes fair, full pension rights. The culture war they started and they want to keep going will continue, but in the end, there will only be one group left with integrity and standing, us. The people who put these wrecking amendments in clearly have no shame.

I just don’t get this sheer hate – the people who are putting forward these ridiculous amendments want us to continue to treated as second class citizens or worse, what have we ever done to them I wonder.
It’s so loathsome – it feels like a punch in the face every time I see another amendment being put forward to ‘protect’ something that is just an act of love and a basic human right. It’s as if we are sub human as far as these people are concerned.
We’ll here some news for them we are not ‘abominations’ and everyone of ‘us’ deserves more respect than these evil evil men and woman.
I shall never forget the hate that has been shown during this process and will never forgive those people who clearly despise us.

Yet again, UNELECTED people are attempting to block the legitimate legislation passed by our ELECTED representatives. This situation is a joke! We lecture the world on the merits and desirability of democracy while allowing this disgraceful situation to continue. Landed gentry and bishops halting progress demanded by ‘the people’. We’re no better than Russia. Abolish the Lords NOW!!!

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