Odd when the best stack/reach (calculated) results in a top-tube that is 15mm longer than what I'm riding right now, which is also a perfect fit. Yet what I'm riding right now puts me on a relatively short stem. 15mm longer means a 15mm shorter stem normally, but those stack/reach results are relatively similar to the current calculated stack/reach?

They definitely had one there, it wasn't the minimalist paint scheme though, so it looked pretty similar to the Praemio-R they had in front of it. They've definitely come in heavier than the ~750g they quote, the last two we got (both around 55x52cm) were 830g and 832g with hardware (in the minimalist paint scheme).

can´t se what a frame that you think looks alitle bit like Bura SL comes in a little bit heavier then the manufacture specs, have to do with Bura SL. just because one manufacture can´t reach promised weight, it does´t mean that other can´t.

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