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ahh, good advice. I am doing a lot of solo play right now and I do see a lot of lazy noob asking in Rookie help how to mine the best semi-afk. Always been one to want to farm the farmer -- but not to the point where the sheep are extinct or too scared to come out of high sec.

Saw a catalyst video on youtube. Looks easy enough. right 1.5mil is half my wallet, so maybe later on. Looks like getting involved in a Corp that does war alot could be fun. If I don't lag out to jesus. Wish I could multi-box on my atari-style pc. It seems to be the way to go in that game as well.

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I originally joined cause I thought it looked epic (which it is) but I quickly realized I had no idea what I'm doing and that I can't do much. I did all the tutorials, earned some isk (the in-game currency), and bought myself a nice ship (Thorax). I then joined a corporation, however they sabotaged my experience by telling me I can't do anything untill I have 20 mil skill points. I promptly became dis-motivated and stopped playing eve.

Recently, I joined back (10$) because a friend of mine just started playing. On my first day back, I left my last corporation and then joined factional warfare. I managed to lose my best thorax and my best shield-drone Tristan. I've rebuilt my Tristan and I have my backup thorax along with my other possessions in nice safe location. Currently I'm waiting to be accepted into EVE university so I'm not super clueless.

In the end, I think EVE is one of those games (like starcraft) that's really hard to get into but once you do get past the beginner struggle, they can be pretty epic.

Here is a link which gives you a month of free play time. ( I believe)

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Yeah, i took like 2 weeks of just logging on to put stuff in queue because I didn't have time to play it. I've got like 9 days left of the free 30 days. I think there's a way to create a trial link and get yourself another 30 days free if you make a 2nd account just to get the 30 days for a free trial referral? Not sure. I might end up paying the $9.99 for the month. I did hear I missed the sale for the starter pack at $5 on Amazon. So that's lame.

But I'm still in tutorial land. After that, I will probably do the Sisters of Eve crap and then look for a corporation. How do I find Eve U to apply? I've seen a few other corporations offer good ideas like weekly PvP, mining, etc runs. Might try some of them in a while. I figure if I'm indeed that far behind, might as well get some isk for plex's until I do.

But yeah, that game leaves you super clueless no matter how many tutorials you do. I guess I've got a lot more reading to do, more youtube videos to watch, and corporations to join I guess.

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I'd suggest not trying to pay for your first month with PLEX. You really don't have the player skills, character skills, or capital (ISK) to earn that much. Plus, if you do manage to scrap together 800 mil, you won't have that money to enjoy the game, and you'll start treating Eve like a job.

If you started your trial with a buddy code yourself, by activating the account with $, the referring buddy receives a reward (playtime or PLEX). And nice buddies will sell the PLEX and split the ISK, so make sure you are in contact with Fawne (It would be a cool 400 mil, and you'd be set for awhile.)

You can make money with exploration (use probes to find hidden pockets of space where you play a little minigame to get some items). You can join Faction Warfare, and earn Loyal Points which you use to purchase items and sell on the open market. There is of course missions and mining if you prefer more meditative gameplay (and some dead end skills, in the case of mining).

I don't know if this is still possible, but I spent my first month in Eve stealing loot from other players who were running missions.

I had a little scanning frigate equipped with a Combat Probe Launcher. I sat in a mission-heavy system, scanned down people, switched ships to a speedy frigate, warped to their mission, and grabbed the loot out of their wrecks. People aren't too happy about this, and it does flag you to be attacked, but most people were too scared to retaliate (if they shot you, then you could shoot them back, so you could again switch ships to something more combat-focused and pewpew/hold them ransom).

I made like 150 mil over a month of doing this. All the while I was training scanning/combat skills, and became very familiar with the directional and probe scanners, as well as the aggression/criminal rules of highsec.

It took three different trials over two years to finally get into the game. My character was started in 2011--eight years after the game launched. My first month I trained scanning skills so that I could find people running missions in high security and steal their loot. During this time, I became very comfortable with probe scanning and the directional scanner (a much more important tool), and trained fitting skills so that I could fly a combat-viable frigate.

I took the money I made with stealing, fitted a cheap frigate and started to solo pvp. My first death was against a target I had absolutely no chance of winning against, but it was the most exhilarating moment of gaming for me. I kept chasing that high; I joined a low security "pirate" corporation, and solo killed plenty of 5+ year veterans who didn't have the player skill nor nerve to engage in PvP. I was enamored with wormholes and their riches, so I joined a "PvP" wormhole alliance. Wormholes are some of the most skill-intensive, high risk, high reward areas of Eve. And I had joined a group of long time veterans, some of whom had 5x my total skill points, within a year of starting Eve. I had near-maxed skills for several of their fleet compositions (but not all of them, again: variety), and contributed mightily.

So when people say that newbies will never catch up in Eve, they have no idea.

Edited March 30, 2015 by motstandet

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yeah, I read a lot of people say that if you try to pay for your plex the first month, you'll be so dead set done with the game that you won't have any fun. So I didn't bother. I knew I'd be paying my 2nd month's sub for sure. Fawne never gave me that isk, lol.

Solo play does sound fun, but definitely looking forward to running with a guild and getting some GvG.

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The best way to play EVE is to watch all of the cinematic trailers, then open up a text document and list how you want to train your character's skills and which ships you want to fly. Then delete that document and go play something else!

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Okay, to be honest, I played EVE semi-seriously for about 6 months. Probing Deklein, moving material around, and participating in fleet movements. It's a great game if you can waste massive amounts of time on it. That said, defending the VFK headshot attempt was the most fun I've had on ages.

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Eve is a massive time investment. Find a small group of roaming dudes. You'll be fine.

Big ops however... Can be very tedious. Worst time was waiting a good 3 hours for the fleet to form up. Half way to destination had another hour bio break. Then when we finally get there. It wasn't what we expected. Was disappointed. However the coms were amusing.

Small roaming gangs are the way to go if PvP is your thing. Just keep an eye out for people bating and dropping a cap ship on your cute bottom.

Edit: if you do actually really get into it. Pm me on here. I'll help you out with stuff.

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Just for trying something completely different for a change I've parked my Worm in a station and bought a Noctis, slapped some salvagers, tractors and hornet IIs on it and started roaming the 0.5 asteroid belts.

I'm even unflinchingly polite, if the wrecks I want are close to another player I even ask if they'd be botherd by me salvaging that stuff. Well... if they say yes I'll still salvage them, but there are appearences to be maintained.

Watching peoples reactions to that are hilarious.

Most just warp out as soon as I get closer then 15k or so kilometers (yeah, you better panic, I'm totally going to suicide gank your Orca with a freaking Noctis), others are pretty passive aggressive about their wrecks, sometimes coming pretty close to being insulting. The rest answers my convos in russian, probably also being passive aggressive about their dead rats (or probably insulting me).

I've been doing it for 2 days now, and before that I'd have never believed something as harmless as salvaging wrecks could produce so many tears.

I've seen people die to CONCORD for their lone gurista infiltrator wreck...

Constant optimism will not solve your problems,

but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.

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Yep, we're a special bunch of bananas, ROFL. Sounds as though you're having fun though!

The whole ganking orca thing, true story here, a nice young fella from a questionable corporation snuggled up to my mackinaw with his retriever back when I mined in Gelhan. Then his friends in suicide catalysits warped to him and I didn't have a mackinaw for much longer ROFL, as a result I tend to mine at least 20km away from people I'm not familiar with. I think some of the folks you're scaring away might have encountered similar such scenarios, that and Hi-sec is even scarier than low and null sec cause you're bottled in with people you don't know at all, and each and everyone of them (in your mind at least) could be out to poop on your day. At least in the fight-secs you know that the random guy in local came with the express intent of peeing in your cheerios.

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I've been curious about EVE for a while but don't have a lot of time to commit on a regular basis. It appears as though EVE isn't really a game that one can enjoy casually, and some of the talk in this thread seems to support that. Is there any way for someone like me, with a few hours a week max generally, to have a good time in EVE?

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If you can find some tasks that don't require other people to play with you (including PvP), then you could get away with a few hours a week. Manufacturing/Industry, trading, mining, exploration, missions. You could possibly join a large alliance and show up to announced fleets if you have larger blocks of time (at least 3 hours).

Honestly, the more time you have to waste, the more Eve you will get. Then more you are online, the more chances of great Eve moments; Eve has a lot of downtime. You could sign up for a trial and see if it allows your time commitment.

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If you like pew pew take a look at Red VS Blue, I think someone linked it earlier. I've got an alt on there that I'll log in once every couple of months and they don't say anything about my inactivity. I'll run missions on it when I'm not riddling blue faction with bullet holes (which let's face it, isn't very good against that hawk), and whenever I need a hand to throw together a ratting poorly made socks they've always helped out with a smile.

If you're more into the building things scene definitely take a look at E-Uni, personally I'm not their biggest fan, but the things they do they do to protect their members. They'll get you set up with a mining rig, gig, and show you how to get the most efficient intake, sell for max profit, or build for minimum cost. I don't know what they've got for 'activity rules', it's been a very LONG time since I was there.

Brave newbies threw themselves under the cloak of the Goonswarm, so they're still an option, but they're going through a lot of changes and they live in the constantly metamorphosing and usually terrifying world of Null-Sec where anyone is free to shoot you any time for any reason, even the people you've come to trust. You're going to have to participate a little more than 'casually' to have a good time in null, but general you get out of it delicious isk equivalent to the time you put into it.

Or you could train into a venture with warp-core stabilizers and just squirrel around in wormholes driving people bananas because they can't catch you while remaining affiliated with nobody and just having a good time. You don't even have to log out in station, just as soon as your aggression timer has ticked off you can log in space and they won't know where you are till you decide to strike again.

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I'm going to take advantage of the long weekend to start my EVE trial. Like you guys pointed out, there's no risk and the best way to determine whether I can have an enjoyable experience is just to experience the game.

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1. Like they say, don't expect to pay for your first month in your free trial.

2. Queue, queue, queue.

3. Follow the quests and ask whatever you want in rookie chat.

4. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

5. There is no trick to doubling your isk. Trade at your own risk.

6. Once you get done with the first set of quests, do the Sisters of Eve quests and try to find a noob corporation.

7. Autopilot is slower than piloting yourself but if you have 7 jumps to your next spot and you want to take a break: autopilot.

and most importantly, don't forget to put the quest item in your ship before you leave. Nothing like traveling 10 minutes and forgetting the item.

Eve has these addons on amazon for $5 each but idk if they're worth it. They DID have a core starter pack for $5 which included a bunch of crap including 30 days free game time that I'm told can add on to your free trial. Not positive if it still can.

If you play for a day or so and like the game, then I'd recommend buying that anyhow. A month's subscription is $15 so another $5 for the cerebral accelerator plus all the other goodies would seem worth it to me. Also, try and get a code from a current player. They'll get a free month's time (PLEX) and they can sell the PLEX and split it with you. I'm told that's the tradition. anotherneko took the plex and ran on me, but w/e I quit anyhow. I'm told people will give you half of the plex's value for taking their trial link.