Listen..I don't doubt he is frustrated. Even he must feel like he crossed the line this time with both his on the field outburst as well as the media outburst.

You have to respect him for admitting he was wrong and doing something about it...no matter what brought him to that point.

It's kind of funny that the scorer changed the call on his own. I am sure it's not often that the fielder and the batter agree on what a call should have been.

Added to that...Ortiz has enough experience with the process to know that all he had to do was have someone make the phone call ...which is why his outburst seemed in poor taste.

Also to add..Ortiz seems concerned that people are bashing him on a regular basis because he's not hitting .300. Who are these people because I haven't seen it anywhere. The media and the pundits bash the offense as a whole...and most everyone is singled out but Ortiz.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

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LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

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LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

That's not what I meant. I asked how many of us, as a talking point. My point is, it's human to error, he apologized and that still won't be enough, for some. There is already a post, the only reason he apologized is because of Torre's statement. Can't win, for losing.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

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LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

JBay: This is baseball we are talking about. It is the ultimate reality show and we all pay to see it, whether thru cable or tickets. You need to relax with the soap opera Ortiz comments. Yes, he said he was sorry but not until Torre spanked him in public.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

Yes, no one wants drama at work. it takes away from production and eats up the clock. I save the drama for twitter where people can unfollow me if they don't like my comments. But there are those who I annoy who still read my every tweet.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

JBay: This is baseball we are talking about. It is the ultimate reality show and we all pay to see it, whether thru cable or tickets. You need to relax with the soap opera Ortiz comments. Yes, he said he was sorry but not until Torre spanked him in public.

I am glad he is on our team, isn't that enough?

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No one is more over the top here than you and the rest of the torch and pitchfork crew.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

Yes, no one wants drama at work. it takes away from production and eats up the clock. I save the drama for twitter where people can unfollow me if they don't like my comments. But there are those who I annoy who still read my every tweet.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

Yes, no one wants drama at work. it takes away from production and eats up the clock. I save the drama for twitter where people can unfollow me if they don't like my comments. But there are those who I annoy who still read my every tweet.

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All two of them?

Actually 4b, I like your answer. That means you aren't reading my twitter account like your friend. There is hope for you yet.

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

JBay: This is baseball we are talking about. It is the ultimate reality show and we all pay to see it, whether thru cable or tickets. You need to relax with the soap opera Ortiz comments. Yes, he said he was sorry but not until Torre spanked him in public.

I am glad he is on our team, isn't that enough?

What's the fact it's baseball have to do with any of it? The players can't do or say something they regret, and if and when they apologize, its only because there's an ulterior motive? You've been trashing Ortiz long before you were here under this screen name, so I'm not so sure, you really are

now we can get back to all the stephen drew threads and how he wasted 10.1MM dollars......

other names i have posted under: none

LOL, slash.

How many of us have said or reacted to something personally or professionally, we regretted and glad it wasn't public? No one here, who's critical of Ortiz, apparently. He's seen the errors of his ways, apologized and it still wont be enough, for some

Won't be enough for WHO exactly?

no one, exactly, miscrickets. Some, as in some

Okay..just wondering..because of your previous comment. You stated that no one here who is critical of Ortiz has probably ever said or done something personally or professionally that they are glad wasn't public. Since I have been critical of Ortiz' "off the field" antics..I thought maybe you were referring to people like me.

FTR...personally...I say and do things on a fairly regular basis which I am glad are not public..lol. (though I imagine it would make a pretty good sitcom)...but professionally?? Never once. I pride myself on my professional demeanor . In my professional world there is no room for temper or outbursts.

Yes, no one wants drama at work. it takes away from production and eats up the clock. I save the drama for twitter where people can unfollow me if they don't like my comments. But there are those who I annoy who still read my every tweet.

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All two of them?

Actually 4b, I like your answer. That means you aren't reading my twitter account like your friend. There is hope for you yet.

David is producing the big hits - he shouldnt sweat the small stuff....but the ball washers here who supported his rants no matter how embarrassing owe an apology as well - you cant teach common sense apparently

David is producing the big hits - he shouldnt sweat the small stuff....but the ball washers here who supported his rants no matter how embarrassing owe an apology as well - you cant teach common sense apparently

As always - 100% correct!

You are too funny and you don't post enough. Now that Ortiz has apologized, I guess that would be an admission of guilt and that he was wrong with his thumb down and back comment?

David is producing the big hits - he shouldnt sweat the small stuff....but the ball washers here who supported his rants no matter how embarrassing owe an apology as well - you cant teach common sense apparently

As always - 100% correct!

You are too funny and you don't post enough. Now that Ortiz has apologized, I guess that would be an admission of guilt and that he was wrong with his thumb down and back comment?

This year has been way busy for me = teaching, going to school - now that im off i have the my kids and 87 yr old Italian ma living with me...but the sad fact is the Sox are just not that interesting - you know when you're looking forward to the trade deadline that things are stale in the Nation...

David is producing the big hits - he shouldnt sweat the small stuff....but the ball washers here who supported his rants no matter how embarrassing owe an apology as well - you cant teach common sense apparently

No they are not that interesting. JBJ has a nice fan club out in the bleachers. Nap can be exciting to watch and his quiet demeanor is nice.

One thing that makes it dull is the absence of jacoby and his "over-rated" base stealing.

I don't know. They are struggling for sure..and the offense is still largely anemic. I still find them interesting...the games that is. You never know when you're going to see a little rainbow in the rain. Sometimes there's a cool play that makes it all worthwhile..like when Ortiz hits the game winner..or the great catches by Holt...or Napoli stealing home.

The reality is that Ortiz was 2-for-2 now in bad scoring decisions, 2-for-2....2 more hits and 2 less chances for the yahoos on this board who bash his batting average. I don't care about his reaction, the fact is that he called out the scorekeepers and the $150 a game guys twice botched calls that I can tell you weren't that hard to make---I score games as part of my living--believe me the calls made were both unnecessary decisions and caused grief for a guy who understands that his living is based solely on his hitting as a DH. For the idiots who continue to villify Big Papi, I will use a FIFA soccer term---Pizz off.