lol @ people suggesting we had to make a Herschel Walker type deal to get Lynch. A 2nd rounder at most would have got it done.

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Nowhere did I suggest we would have had to make a Herschel Walker type deal, but your assertion that we should have signed Westbrook in the off-season (How did SF fare with him BTW?) and traded for Lynch would have caused us to over-haul our running back corps. Someone would have to go, and my guess is we wouldn't have taken Starks had we gone the route of signing Westbrook. Or we would have cut Jackson, which is taking an awful big risk for a guy with major health issues.

As for your ridiculous Herschel Walker assertion, Buffalo got TWO draft picks from Seattle- A 4th rounder and a conditional 6th that I think is now a 5th. They would not settle for a 4th round pick from us. It had to be a 3rd round pick because it was expected at the time our 4th round pick would be lower than Seattle's.

my logic isn't wack at all. Lynch is a beast and whoever we take with that pick isn't gonna be as good as he is. Dude can make something out of nothing. Only guy on our team that can do anything close to that is Driver.

Of course you could. I was merely point out that you have no friggin clue how a RB is going to turn out based on where we draft him. He could be balls to the wall good or could absolutely suck balls. You have no idea.

show me ANY decent runs by B Jack who was the starting HB and not off injury. Lynch was coming off injury and therfore buried on the depth chart. Despite his few carries that he did have, he had better stats than Jackson. Your argument was basing Lynch's performance off of ONE season and ONE run. He's been MUCH better of a back than Jackson ever could be

Of course you could. I was merely point out that you have no friggin clue how a RB is going to turn out based on where we draft him. He could be balls to the wall good or could absolutely suck balls. You have no idea.

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Why take the risk when you have a good player sitting in front of you?

Of course you could. I was merely point out that you have no friggin clue how a RB is going to turn out based on where we draft him. He could be balls to the wall good or could absolutely suck balls. You have no idea.

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Terrell Davis was drafted in the late 6th round.... and he turned out pretty well

Nowhere did I suggest we would have had to make a Herschel Walker type deal, but your assertion that we should have signed Westbrook in the off-season (How did SF fare with him BTW?) and traded for Lynch would have caused us to over-haul our running back corps. Someone would have to go, and my guess is we wouldn't have taken Starks had we gone the route of signing Westbrook. Or we would have cut Jackson, which is taking an awful big risk for a guy with major health issues.

As for your ridiculous Herschel Walker assertion, Buffalo got TWO draft picks from Seattle- A 4th rounder and a conditional 6th that I think is now a 5th. They would not settle for a 4th round pick from us. It had to be a 3rd round pick because it was expected at the time our 4th round pick would be lower than Seattle's.

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1. Westbrook did awesome for the 9ers when he finally got his chance.
2. I obviously only wanted 1 of those 2 stud RBs
3. I only made the Herschel Walker comparison because I read somebody saying we should risk our entire future on the Lynch trade. I can't find who said it now though lol.

And you trade for Lynch because of what he did in 2007? Are you kidding me??? The leading rushers in 2007 were LaDanian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Brian Westbrook, and Willie Parker. Want these guys (other than AD)? We are now in 2011. I've got an idea for you ... go out and buy some Enron stock. I hear that was a high-flyer back in the day.

Lynch rushed for 450 yards in 2009 and 737 this year and averaged about 3.5 yards per carry. He is JUST A GUY. Nothing special.

I agree that Jackson is just a guy also. Nothing special there. But, why would you throw good money at bad?

We are just fine with Starks and Jackson. And Grant/Starks may be even better next year.

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And if we had missed the playoffs a lack of running game would have been a big reason why. Thank god we have Aaron or we would be nothing on offense.

And you trade for Lynch because of what he did in 2007? Are you kidding me??? The leading rushers in 2007 were LaDanian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Brian Westbrook, and Willie Parker. Want these guys (other than AD)? We are now in 2011. I've got an idea for you ... go out and buy some Enron stock. I hear that was a high-flyer back in the day.

Lynch rushed for 450 yards in 2009 and 737 this year and averaged about 3.5 yards per carry. He is JUST A GUY. Nothing special.

I agree that Jackson is just a guy also. Nothing special there. But, why would you throw good money at bad?

We are just fine with Starks and Jackson. And Grant/Starks may be even better next year.

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We/I am not saying keep Lynch long term. Just for this season to replace Grant. All the names you mentioned... LT, Brian Westbrooks, Wille Parker... HELL TO THE FRIGGING YES I'd take any of them in a heart beat over Brandon Jackson! ANY of them would have given us a much better rushing season than BJack. No one said Sign Lynch as our future, Grant/Startks are our future. Lynch would have just been a one year deal to make sure we didn't have a horrid running game, which.... we did

And you trade for Lynch because of what he did in 2007? Are you kidding me??? The leading rushers in 2007 were LaDanian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Brian Westbrook, and Willie Parker. Want these guys (other than AD)? We are now in 2011. I've got an idea for you ... go out and buy some Enron stock. I hear that was a high-flyer back in the day.

Lynch rushed for 450 yards in 2009 and 737 this year and averaged about 3.5 yards per carry. He is JUST A GUY. Nothing special.

I agree that Jackson is just a guy also. Nothing special there. But, why would you throw good money at bad?

We are just fine with Starks and Jackson. And Grant/Starks may be even better next year.

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Just guys don't make that run against the saints in the 4th quarter of a tight playoff game.

If Lynch is so good why only 3.5 yrds a carry in Seattle? The O-line? thats right. And why was he the 3rd RB in Buffalo a team thats one of the worst in the league? Oh thats right bc they dont know what they are doing.

If we would have traded for Lynch it would have been like Dallas trading for Roy Williams in Detroit. Lets just grab someone that isnt even the best player at their position from a garbage team.

Starks had a huge day. Dont know how this is still an active thread. Its like the people who think having favre would still make us a better team.

We/I am not saying keep Lynch long term. Just for this season to replace Grant. All the names you mentioned... LT, Brian Westbrooks, Wille Parker... HELL TO THE FRIGGING YES I'd take any of them in a heart beat over Brandon Jackson! ANY of them would have given us a much better rushing season than BJack. No one said Sign Lynch as our future, Grant/Startks are our future. Lynch would have just been a one year deal to make sure we didn't have a horrid running game, which.... we did

show me ANY decent runs by B Jack who was the starting HB and not off injury. Lynch was coming off injury and therfore buried on the depth chart. Despite his few carries that he did have, he had better stats than Jackson. Your argument was basing Lynch's performance off of ONE season and ONE run. He's been MUCH better of a back than Jackson ever could be

If Lynch is so good why only 3.5 yrds a carry in Seattle? The O-line? thats right. And why was he the 3rd RB in Buffalo a team thats one of the worst in the league? Oh thats right bc they dont know what they are doing.

If we would have traded for Lynch it would have been like Dallas trading for Roy Williams in Detroit. Lets just grab someone that isnt even the best player at their position from a garbage team.

Starks had a huge day. Dont know how this is still an active thread. Its like the people who think having favre would still make us a better team.

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He was never really the 3rd RB in Buffalo. He was the #1 RB until he got suspended. Then he was splitting time with Jackson. Then before this season the Bills drafted Spiller because he was the best player available. The backfield got crowded after that so they had to move somebody and they picked Lynch. He was never 3rd on the depth chart ever. Get your facts straight.

Just so I'm clear .. you are saying that TT made a mistake because he didn't give up a #3 2011 draft choice to get Marshawn Lynch for 10 games?

And, you do know that Willie Parker is still a free agent. So, that means that the other 31 GMs are stupid also? Surely, a stud like Willie could have helped any team in the NFL win another game or so. Same with Westbrook ... what a find for the 49ers by their ex-GM.

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I'm saying TT almost made a huge mistake not getting ANYONE to replace Grant. Hell, ALL the best rushing teams have a two headed monster. Some have three! Ravens have Rice, McGahee and McLain.... Dallas has Jones, Barber and Choice.... Kansas city has Charles and Jones.... the list goes on... we have Brandon Jackson and John Kuhn (until Starks, who was UNproven, came off of PUP)

You can't just sit there and HOPE that Starks miraculously stays healthy the rest of his career, or hope that somehow BJ learns how to run the ball. Before we knew anything about Starks, I would take a Grant/Lynch rushing combo all day long next season