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Presidential Address on Iraq (Discussion Phase)

Combat operations in Iraq end today and the President talks. So for those planning on following the address, I thought we could do some commentary (like the good old primary days) in here. Also this would be the chance he has to turn shit around with the polling and rev up the base. I hope he pulls it off.

That was the first thing I noticed too. I actually think this speech was a good idea, and I for one am glad he gave it.

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GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular

If I were the Republicans I would pretend as hard as I could that Iraq doesn't exist. It works for them with global warming/the poor/sex education.

Fixed.

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We already all know the answer, and it's certainly nothing new, but does absolutely everything have to have political hackery thrown into the mix in the US? Does the opposition party have to be confrontational on every single thing?

We already all know the answer, and it's certainly nothing new, but does absolutely everything have to have political hackery thrown into the mix in the US? Does the opposition party have to be confrontational on every single thing?

Mix a poorly educated, heavily jingoistic segment of the populace with political games, and this is what you get. Maybe they decided it was a bad idea at some point, but it's too late to change message now.

Our media is pretty bad too. They treat all views as equally meritorious, then cut to drug ads, political attack ads, and the odd manipulative PSA. That's pretty much our system.

This is the issue that should be pressed AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN to rev up the base. Obama is cleaning up the GOP's greatest mess, and everyone needs to see that effort. The public and the base need to be reminded of this over and over.

nah, a picture with the four of them, one of the two girls, and then a wedding picture.

But they were... quite prominently displayed. you couldn't help but see the pictures and smile.

i thought the one on the right (his left) was the famous photo of him as a boy with his father

In the madrassa? Learning terror?

It was, well, it was. I was left a little empty by it. I'm not saying I expected him to come charging out of the gate, all "there, I finished what you guys fucked up - you're welcome" but it seemed a little shy on the 'mistakes were made,' little heavy on the 'can we just move on now?'

This is the issue that should be pressed AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN to rev up the base. Obama is cleaning up the GOP's greatest mess, and everyone needs to see that effort. The public and the base need to be reminded of this over and over.

This is the issue that should be pressed AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN to rev up the base. Obama is cleaning up the GOP's greatest mess, and everyone needs to see that effort. The public and the base need to be reminded of this over and over.

i dunno

the right is convinced that he didn't clean it up fast enough or well enough or cheaply enough or didn't have enough of a huge victory

and a lot of the left is pissed that he didn't pull out right away and also bring up bush on like war crime charges

there's a lot of bullshit out there and it seems not a lot of reward for doing his job responsibly

This is the issue that should be pressed AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN to rev up the base. Obama is cleaning up the GOP's greatest mess, and everyone needs to see that effort. The public and the base need to be reminded of this over and over.

They'll bitch about Afghanistan.

Then the GOP should be reminded that that was their war to win. And that Osama bin Ladin was their criminal to lose. And press that again and again and again. And you won't have to worry about the media not reporting it because The President will be saying it on national television. Let the Jindal's and the Krauthammers respond, and make themselves look foolish just as they did back during the election. Make voters remember why they put this man into office in the first place. I'm sick and tired of not hitting back against these fools with their own abdominal records on just about everything.

The better idea would be to propose some job creation programs and make the Republicans come up with an economic agenda. The way things are going 2012 is going to be... interesting.

I'm seriously hoping for a Palin ticket. Oh god, I would donate so much money to her primary campaign.

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This is the issue that should be pressed AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN to rev up the base. Obama is cleaning up the GOP's greatest mess, and everyone needs to see that effort. The public and the base need to be reminded of this over and over.

They'll bitch about Afghanistan.

Then the GOP should be reminded that that was their war to win. And that Osama bin Ladin was their criminal to lose. And press that again and again and again. And you won't have to worry about the media not reporting it because The President will be saying it on national television. Let the Jindal's and the Krauthammers respond, and make themselves look foolish just as they did back during the election. Make voters remember why they put this man into office in the first place. I'm sick and tired of not hitting back against these fools with their own abdominal records on just about everything.

As for everyone else pissing and moaning, well:

Spoiler:

Obama tried to ask republicans for ideas for health care and that didnt help him at all. They brought nothing to the table, at all, and it changed no minds, even as him and other dems proposed a half dozen new ideas

It was, well, it was. I was left a little empty by it. I'm not saying I expected him to come charging out of the gate, all "there, I finished what you guys fucked up - you're welcome" but it seemed a little shy on the 'mistakes were made,' little heavy on the 'can we just move on now?'

Thirty years from now people will be comparing Obama to Gerald Ford for not attempting to use the office to investigate and punish the actions of his predecessor.

"It could go on and on and on, or someone must write the end to it. I have concluded that only I can do that, and if I can, I must."
-President Gerald Ford, televised address, 9/8/1974