I am not touting this is as an amazing sale price but it is about $50 cheaper than elsewhere. Next cheapest I can find is $395 at iStoreI really like the Zen's - but then I have a negative idea about the iPod for some reason ;-)

I'm the same actually. Not a fan of ipods but always got em as presents. However, the ipod touch is pretty sweet bcus of the touch screen feature but the price is a bit steep.

Anyyyyyyyyyyway, I would strongly recommend the zen vision m because i got the bf one during the sale at myer in june and he loves it and my brother also got one and he likes how it works and the sound is pretty good. I got the zen vision w and im loving it still

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