Also I'm curious, was your first job related to programming? Or you jumped from something not very related?

Thus far, this is my first and only job I've had.

vivik wrote:

Also, being self employed means finding clients by yourself? How do you do that, on that sites clients and (not a very experienced) programmers can meet each other?

I got my current assignment through a family member. Said family member was a friend of an employee of this particular company that uses a piece of software. The original developer retired, and new requirements meant they needed new software. So, I said I would attempt to write a replacement.

If you want clients as a freelancer, make a lot of friends in a lot of places. When they need help, they'll talk to you.

I mostly lift heavy objects to make money. My artistic expressions would require too much selling of myself to get noticed - something I'm really not interested in. My interests are very broad which makes career selection difficult. So, it's like I get paid to exercise and maintain my health.

freelance for years,
some customers emerged to be lifelong friends, lunch, dinner, company trip, annual dinner together, of course, i don't know if they still wish to regard me as one of their friends in coming years or 10 years or 20 years, nobody knows,

we sure need a detail definition, what is friend here,
my simple definition would be,
- people who appreciate you, your appearance, your efforts in their life, troubles, problems, time, etc associated with them,

- i don't think there is any point to continue close relationship if others already disregard your existence, disrespect you, then i remind myself too, treat people who treat you nice ~ better,

- there is no much point to treat your new friends better than your old friends, if they already stick with you 5 years, the possibilities they will continue to stick with you in the coming 5 years is higher, so treat them better,

pampered myself with 24 hours under my consumption, i don't think life is all about money, job, or etc that most people craving, i probably want something else, but make sure one must obtain all the basic necessities, they are very important for the next adventure,

i like lot of things, hobbies or activities, but for sure, every those stuffs require lots of investment in time, and monies, so pick cautiously and play them well,

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