I meant your sentence could be read as if late tracks could be used as well ("often" doesn't mean "always" in my book).

Cheers,

Christophe

Ah well, I don't have definative proof that later tracks were never used. Do you? If so please share.

It's a bit like saying no M4 Sherman DV Mk Is were used by the British in Normandy, which actually turned out not to be the case or that saying the Italeri large hatch M32 was never used when in fact it was.

Never Say Never Christopher and of course there is always modellers choice!

Ah well, I don't have definative proof that later tracks were never used. Do you? If so please share.

It's a bit like saying no M4 Sherman DV Mk Is were used by the British in Normandy, which actually turned out not to be the case or that saying the Italeri large hatch M32 was never used when in fact it was.

Never Say Never Christopher and of course there is always modellers choice!

Al

I just say your sentence is ambiguous and yes Resicast told me the late tracks were never used. I trust they know better than us mere mortals...

We try to please most of the people most of the time but can't please all the people all the time.

So if it helps. All the picstures I have seen of this vehicle have shown the use of the Early Style Churchill Tracks as can be seen in the review link above. For this reason I specifically mentioned them in the Review of the ARK Mk I, but as always you should check your references, personally I don't have definative proof that this was always the case.

I don't doubt what Graham told you in the least. However, I was told, by several very credible sources that M4 DVs were not used by the British in Normandy, All were later proved wrong.

Great to see this one released, i can wait to get my hands on one. If it's anything like as good as the new Mk IV AVRE conversion, which I'm about half way through, it'll be another gem.Thanks for the detailed description Al, only made me all the more eager.

I'm looking forwrad to doing both another AVRE Mk IV and the ARK. The AFV AVRE when it comes I will build as a Mk III, which will make a neat contrast, but I have the Churchill doner kit for these two so all I need mow is more build time.

Any thoughts on the pic? It looks to me like those might be late pattern tracks which would be unusual but my eyes aren't what they used to be .

Any thoughts on the pic? It looks to me like those might be late pattern tracks which would be unusual but my eyes aren't what they used to be .

Al

Hi Al I have a slighly larger version of that picture, and to me the ends of the track links look like the later type also here's the pic

I'm not sure of differences between MkI and later ARKs, or if you meant only MkIs had early tracks, but i also have this picture, which i believe maybe a later model. I reckon this one has late tracks too.

Thanks for the better pics, yes I'd agree these are sporting the later style tracks.

The majority of the pics I'd seen showed the early style so it is probaly fair to say they were more common or at least though to be, but I didn't say they were only used on the early Mk Is as you see this style of tracks on gun tanks and other vehicles too, including the AVRE's whether Mk IIIs or MK IVs, so they will be a useful set.

It was Christopher who said my reference to them:

( Modellers interested in the set may also want to note kit no 35.2311 which provides Churchill early pattern tracks often seen on these vehicles.)

was ambiguous which as you can see it wasn't.

The picture I posted was taken in Italy, lots of rivers there There are some good pics of them on IWM.

Lots of good things in the pipe line form Resicast, it's going to be a very interesting year for Mr Churchill.

Lots of good things in the pipe line form Resicast, it's going to be a very interesting year for Mr Churchill.

Al

Hi AlYes should be a bumper year for Churchill fans, (I'm a new convert having been beguiled by the working Churchill at Tankfest 2008) i understand Graham is retooling the SBG among other things. This is great news especially after seeing the fabulous movie footage on ML earlier this week. I'm planning to build the ARK conversion for SMMI and have already started an AVRE Mk IV with the drop in engine set (also resicast). I'm still waiting on the AFV Club Mk III AVRE, so started this one in the mean time

Yip, the test footage was great. Without giving the game away completely lots of watery things in the pipeline, some with wheels!!

Another reference pic

The new engine will add a lot of dio possibilities, who knows we may even get a basic interior which would be great.

It will be a while before I get started on this one, other projects to complete first, but I'm really looking forward to it. The Mk III gun tank builds I've seen look great and there are lots of possible combinations with the tracks and fenders by the look of the kit so good fun ahead.

The ARKs used in Italy differed considerably to those used in NWE. They were produced locally by REME wksp and known as Churchill ARK Mk II (Italian Pattern).

The Picture of the one with the Facine is an ARK Mk I and the picture you showed, shows the ARK Mk II (UK Pattern) and has the widened trackway on the Left Hand Side to allow small vehicles to cross and the longer hinged ramps with the vertical king post fitted to the front towing eye bracket.

Both Churchill Mk III and IV were used as the base vehicle, Graham's kit therefore sits very firmly in the 79th Armoured Division arena.