If the Big Bang is a lie then the universe is lying to us - Atheist Nexus2017-09-26T22:11:03Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/if-the-big-bang-is-a-lie-then-the-universe-is-lying-to-us?groupUrl=originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for your comment Miche…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-09:2182797:Comment:20702712012-10-09T03:08:49.472ZScott McGrealhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/ScottMcGreal
<p>Thanks for your comment Michelle, glad you liked it. I thought the article was very clear and accessible too.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment Michelle, glad you liked it. I thought the article was very clear and accessible too.</p> Aye, tis true.tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-09:2182797:Comment:20701172012-10-09T01:36:46.075ZBillhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Bill498
<p>Aye, tis true.</p>
<p>Aye, tis true.</p> If you have enough people wit…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-09:2182797:Comment:20702542012-10-09T01:29:14.338ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>If you have enough people with enough <em>cojones</em>, it can happen. If you don't, it won't. That simple, I'm afraid.</p>
<p>If you have enough people with enough <em>cojones</em>, it can happen. If you don't, it won't. That simple, I'm afraid.</p> I agree with you completely o…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-09:2182797:Comment:20701972012-10-09T00:17:46.869ZBillhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Bill498
<p>I agree with you completely on those items. My concern is what do we do to change those people who aren't capable of seeing what's real. Currently there is nothing going on that is making any real progress in doing so.</p>
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<p>One could argue that we are making headway, but I would argue that it's far to little to solve anything within even the next 1000 years. This nation won't be here in 1000 years. Maybe this planet, if it is it will certainly be in a much more desperate state than…</p>
<p>I agree with you completely on those items. My concern is what do we do to change those people who aren't capable of seeing what's real. Currently there is nothing going on that is making any real progress in doing so.</p>
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<p>One could argue that we are making headway, but I would argue that it's far to little to solve anything within even the next 1000 years. This nation won't be here in 1000 years. Maybe this planet, if it is it will certainly be in a much more desperate state than even now if something isn't done.</p>
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<p>I don't see anyone in power making the decisions that are needed and even if you got someone in power to do that they would be drowned out by those who profit from it's current state and only care about their personal time here.</p>
<p></p> Thing is, Bill, the solution…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20700862012-10-08T22:12:28.675ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Thing is, Bill, the solution at its root is simple: become self-aware in more than just the vestigial sense, and with that, possessed of your self, rather than in thrall to a dogma or church. Be prepared to KNOW, rather than believe, and then ACT on that knowledge. If we could actually do that on a reasonably large scale, we'd be in like flint.<br></br><br></br>Sadly, people are lazy, and the lazy ones who prefer to be led will inevitably find hotshots with THE TRUTH to lead them by, while the…</p>
<p>Thing is, Bill, the solution at its root is simple: become self-aware in more than just the vestigial sense, and with that, possessed of your self, rather than in thrall to a dogma or church. Be prepared to KNOW, rather than believe, and then ACT on that knowledge. If we could actually do that on a reasonably large scale, we'd be in like flint.<br/><br/>Sadly, people are lazy, and the lazy ones who prefer to be led will inevitably find hotshots with THE TRUTH to lead them by, while the problems grow bigger and bigger and perhaps eventually too large to be deflected.<br/><br/>I don't mind "dark," Bill. Most of us here I suspect are willing to look the dark in the eye and acknowledge its possibility. The problem is that there are too many who will look away out of fear of one sort or another, and so long as they control the decision-making processes, we're in deep sneakers.</p> Loren, and if you look at the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20700842012-10-08T21:57:31.402ZBillhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Bill498
<p>Loren, and if you look at the choices available to stop such events you find reaching into the proverbial hat, it's almost empty.</p>
<p>The very size of the issues we face are I dare say, insurmountable. Ones own psyche is almost forced to turn a blind eye in fear of the discomfort with the reality of the situation.</p>
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<p>Wow that was a little dark. My apologies. :)</p>
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<p>Loren, and if you look at the choices available to stop such events you find reaching into the proverbial hat, it's almost empty.</p>
<p>The very size of the issues we face are I dare say, insurmountable. Ones own psyche is almost forced to turn a blind eye in fear of the discomfort with the reality of the situation.</p>
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<p>Wow that was a little dark. My apologies. :)</p>
<p></p> Precisely. George W. Bush ma…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20701762012-10-08T21:29:04.770ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Precisely. George W. Bush may be the perfect example of what happens when the idea comes to fruition that "anyone can be president," from the most intelligent intellectual to the most clueless rube. The damage he did was considerable, yet he wasn't held to account, nor is he ever likely to be.<br></br><br></br>What is worse is that, because of education standards becoming more lackadaisical by the day, we're producing fewer children who are sufficiently educated and engaged in the matters which…</p>
<p>Precisely. George W. Bush may be the perfect example of what happens when the idea comes to fruition that "anyone can be president," from the most intelligent intellectual to the most clueless rube. The damage he did was considerable, yet he wasn't held to account, nor is he ever likely to be.<br/><br/>What is worse is that, because of education standards becoming more lackadaisical by the day, we're producing fewer children who are sufficiently educated and engaged in the matters which drive this country (or used to drive it) toward excellence. Indifference and lack of education and engagement will eventually be the death of democracy in this country, if not the death of the country itself.</p> On top of that, there's a tre…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20700802012-10-08T21:15:44.964ZJoseph Phttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JosephP
<p>On top of that, there's a trend amongst voters to want to elect someone they would want to have a beer with. They want to elect someone who's their peer.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but I've met some of the average people, in this country. The average person in this country is horrifyingly ignorant of a lot of things. I want someone more intelligent and better educated on the subjects than me. If we got people in government who are at the middle of the bell curve, we'd be fucked.</p>
<p>On top of that, there's a trend amongst voters to want to elect someone they would want to have a beer with. They want to elect someone who's their peer.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but I've met some of the average people, in this country. The average person in this country is horrifyingly ignorant of a lot of things. I want someone more intelligent and better educated on the subjects than me. If we got people in government who are at the middle of the bell curve, we'd be fucked.</p> Jim, if we have idiots in the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20701712012-10-08T20:58:53.564ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Jim, if we have idiots in the US Congress, it's because there are MORE idiots who elected them to office, people who are probably no better educated (and more likely indoctrinated) than those they elect, and far less engaged in matters such as Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) than we currently need in this country.</p>
<p>Jim, if we have idiots in the US Congress, it's because there are MORE idiots who elected them to office, people who are probably no better educated (and more likely indoctrinated) than those they elect, and far less engaged in matters such as Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) than we currently need in this country.</p> Braun and Akins (also on the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-10-08:2182797:Comment:20699852012-10-08T20:46:49.810ZJim DePaulohttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/carver
<p>Braun and Akins (also on the Science Committee) and their ilk are sufficient reason to prohibit religious fundamentalist from engaging in secular government. I can't believe these brain stems are in the US Congress.</p>
<p>Braun and Akins (also on the Science Committee) and their ilk are sufficient reason to prohibit religious fundamentalist from engaging in secular government. I can't believe these brain stems are in the US Congress.</p>