Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness"

~Adolf Hitler

I'm almost certain that our conversion to Christianity is what brought our (slight) downfall.

Exactly, the Assyrians formed this ideology through NATIONALISM... This is how the Serbians and Russians do it, because they are Ultra-Nationalists... Christianity can be good, just as long as you have nationalism with you. Just having Christianity will be a weakness.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

This is great, thanks for sharing! If the Syrian army won't or can't protect you, you may as well do something yourself to protect your people. And like I said in the past, the situation in Syria is getting worse than Iraq ever was. And Assyrians in Syria are smart to know that it probably won't get better anytime soon, so it is best to be armed and ready.

And hey, you never know, by the end of it all, they may be rewarded for this and get something (be it their own province or something greater)

@AshurayaPlasha, the Sutoro Militia is already a part of the Assyrian/Syriac Military Council, the Sutoro has the function of an Police Unit while the Syriac Militray Council is an Army. Both has been set up by the Syriac Union Party Syria (SUP).

@mrzurnaci more tahn 90% of the Assyrians in Syria belongs to the Syriac Orthodox, the member of the ACOE are a minority.

I agree without you guys about we should protect ourselves but we should never think to change our religion becasue of that. I am glad that I am christian, and we spread love and peace.

and I am fully aware that this could affect my protection, but I say, we should "as one of you guys said" protect us no matter what, and protect our villages and cities.

Right now we are facing threats from all sides, Even if we think Assad is good and we should protect him or join them, but we all know that he will be goon, its a matter if itme, and when Assad is gone, they(muslim brotherwhood) will wipe us out no matter what. The only chance we wud survive in future, is getting alone with PKK and with Alawite as minioritis in Syria.

The invasion of Iraq destroyed us, our number decreased from 1,5 to less than 300thousands, and this is becasue we followed our so called heroes from zowaa and zowanaye leaders.

In Syria, I am not sure if we have solid area, that we can claim, but what we can do is to get alone with those ppl who are living there and together runing adminstrative government, unfortionally with PKK..

The population of Assyrians in Iraq today is more closer to 700,000. This is just from my calculations and extensive research.

300,000 is a claim made by a Kurdish puppet to downgrade our population in Iraq. Just like when Saddam tried to downgrade / Arabize us when he said there was only 90,000 Assyrians in Iraq during the 1990's Iraqi-Census.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

The population of Assyrians in Iraq today is more closer to 700,000. This is just from my calculations and extensive research.

300,000 is a claim made by a Kurdish puppet to downgrade our population in Iraq. Just like when Saddam tried to downgrade / Arabize us when he said there was only 90,000 Assyrians in Iraq during the 1990's Iraqi-Census.

plasha is correct, the 300,000 assyrians claim is by the Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Popular Council; which is affiliated with the KDP, ran by Sarkis Aghajan.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

The population of Assyrians in Iraq today is more closer to 700,000. This is just from my calculations and extensive research.

300,000 is a claim made by a Kurdish puppet to downgrade our population in Iraq. Just like when Saddam tried to downgrade / Arabize us when he said there was only 90,000 Assyrians in Iraq during the 1990's Iraqi-Census.

I hope you r right, but if we have 700 000 ppl left in Iraq, dont you think we wud have some influence, even if you say 300 000 of our people voting for kurds through Sarkis Agajan, I still cant believe it, if we were 700 000 we wud be visiable.

I barely believe that we are 500 000 left in iraq, there is almost no Assyrians left in Bagdad, in Basra or other arabs-dominate area, not even in mosul city. The only place we have our ppl left is desth d nivehe(mosul plain) and inside KRG region.

our people r populaed Ainkawa-a small city outside Arbil, and Shaqlawa, Diayana, and the rest of our people are in Nohadra region, small villages and the biggest poplution are living in Nohdra(Dohuk). what wud be the biggest city or village in Nohdra region? sarsang? or barwara?both villages are not even 10 000s.

According Turkomans in KRG the are the second ethnic group in KRG, which means our number in KRG are less than 200 000, and even our number are 300 000 in mousal area(which I wud never believe that our nubmer wud be that high, since we are talking about small villages), even if our ppl moved from Bagdad, Basra to Nineveh palin, we wud reached that high number.

Dont forget, alot of our people moved to Europe and USA after invision of Iraq 2013, and today no one is ready to go back to live in Bagdad or in Basra, they wud live under very strict islamic laws.

Not even in Iraq we have a solid region, I think this is the biggest problem we are facing, desipte we have alot of people in Nineveh plain, its not eneough, The Yezidi and shabak and turkoman wud never let us rule over them. They wud claim mousal plain for them selves.

so whats happening in reality is that Sarkis agajan, even zowaa (thats what I believe) are trying to getting nivehe plain into KRG-so through KRG they wud ask for some sort of self-adminstrative region, this is what Kurds want.

on the other hand, Malaki, through Al nijafi, a sunni politican in Mosul and also governer of Mousel city, trying to keep mosul plain into Mousal region, so they can keep it for ever...

Turkomans, Yezidis and shabaks ,been paid by KRG to work with the Kurds, so they can get mosul nineveh into KRG map.

even if you guys dont believe, this is happening, and this will happen soon or later, I am not saying Kurds will win, but if Kurds wont win this , the sunni arabis will take over mosul plain.

This battalion in Syria, has to work either with the Kurds/PKK, or with Assad. They wud neve survive. I think its better they work with Kurds/PKK, since the kurds will be albe to defend other people even if Assad disappear.

The Assyrians are the second most populated in Duhok, this is according to the Assyrians and the KRG / Kurdish people Itself. The 300,000 figure is only stated by one person, the 700,000 figure is backed by not only Assyrian Political parties (like Zowaa), many media stations, and Churches in Iraq, but also by CIA World FactBook. 700,000 gave us 5 seats in Iraqi parliament and dozens of Assyrian schools in Northern Iraq (including an Assyrian college in Baghdad), Assyrian media stations, Assyrian cultural activities, and road-signs in Assyrian language in Nineveh Plains, even 10 million dollars was allocated to the Assyrians in Nineveh Plains in 2011 to build a police force of 1000 trained Assyrians. If you also look at it realistically, the Shabak probably constitute 30,000 people in the Nineveh Plans, because a lot of their population is actually situated in between Mosul and Sinjar. I don't think a population of 300,000 could create an amount of influence like the Assyrian have accomplished. Although out of 500,000 people in Nineveh Plains the "official" claim that ethnic Assyrians compromise about 45% of the population, many believe that it is actually higher than 45% due to again (displacement) Even the United States don't count many of their population, although the US states that it has 311 Million people, It actually has 350 - 360 million people due to the fact of displacement of people / immigration. KRG claims that Ankawa has a population between 25,000 - 40,000 Assyrians in year 2012.

100,000 - 300,000 figure would be more in between Yezidis and Shabak. We are more in between 500,000 - 700,000,. If you think about it, the city of Bakhdida alone has 50,000 Assyrians, if just that city alone has 50,000 Assyrians, then how many would be in the region of northern Iraq? I know someone who is an expert on Duhok (He is an Iraqi Arab so there is no bias) and he stated that Duhok has 250,000+ Assyrians. If anything, I believe the Assyrian population would be far more higher for the fact that there are a lot of displaced people from Southern and Central Iraq in Northern Iraq due to forced Immigration I even heard that many Assyrians from Syria are moving to Duhok and Nineveh Plains.

Arabs>Kurds>Assyrian+Turkmen>Shabak+Yezidi <--- This is the ethnic political influence of Iraq in my opinion.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

The YPG themselves admitted that they would have to work with the Assyrians to be able to have a strong north-eastern Syria. That is why there was even a proposal that north-eastern Syria would run under 3 districts, a Kurdish, Arab and Assyrian one.

Actually, Syria is quite different from Iraq. The Kurds dont even form half of the population in North Eastern Syria. That is why the establishment of non-Arab schools in North Eastern Syria is under the Kurdo-Assyrian Organizations in unification, even though the schools themselves are separate (one teaches in Assyrian and the other teaches in Kurdish)

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

Right now we have few friends in Syria, and the PKK may be the only ones who are NOT our direct enemies vowing to kill us considering the Syrian government has abandoned the area. I have said this before and will say it again neither the pro-Western, essentially colonialist and Uncle Tom views will help us neither will Westernized stateless socialism and we are a religious nation who can never turn communist and I for one who be the first to oppose it because of my own religious views but we must abandon the right and left and adopt ultranationalism. Serbians would not exist today if the Chetnik view did not exist 100 years ago. Even the Muslim Albanians used secularized ultranationalism to get Kosovo, which they longed for since 1389, over 600 years. Greek (communist) ultranationalism saved them from Hitler and Churchill after WWII.

The Assyrians are the second most populated in Duhok, this is according to the Assyrians and the KRG / Kurdish people Itself. The 300,000 figure is only stated by one person, the 700,000 figure is backed by not only Assyrian Political parties (like Zowaa), many media stations, and Churches in Iraq, but also by CIA World FactBook. 700,000 gave us 5 seats in Iraqi parliament and dozens of Assyrian schools in Northern Iraq (including an Assyrian college in Baghdad), Assyrian media stations, Assyrian cultural activities, and road-signs in Assyrian language in Nineveh Plains, even 10 million dollars was allocated to the Assyrians in Nineveh Plains in 2011 to build a police force of 1000 trained Assyrians. If you also look at it realistically, the Shabak probably constitute 30,000 people in the Nineveh Plans, because a lot of their population is actually situated in between Mosul and Sinjar. I don't think a population of 300,000 could create an amount of influence like the Assyrian have accomplished. Although out of 500,000 people in Nineveh Plains the "official" claim that ethnic Assyrians compromise about 45% of the population, many believe that it is actually higher than 45% due to again (displacement) Even the United States don't count many of their population, although the US states that it has 311 Million people, It actually has 350 - 360 million people due to the fact of displacement of people / immigration. KRG claims that Ankawa has a population between 25,000 - 40,000 Assyrians in year 2012.

100,000 - 300,000 figure would be more in between Yezidis and Shabak. We are more in between 500,000 - 700,000,. If you think about it, the city of Bakhdida alone has 50,000 Assyrians, if just that city alone has 50,000 Assyrians, then how many would be in the region of northern Iraq? I know someone who is an expert on Duhok (He is an Iraqi Arab so there is no bias) and he stated that Duhok has 250,000+ Assyrians. If anything, I believe the Assyrian population would be far more higher for the fact that there are a lot of displaced people from Southern and Central Iraq in Northern Iraq due to forced Immigration I even heard that many Assyrians from Syria are moving to Duhok and Nineveh Plains.

Arabs>Kurds>Assyrian+Turkmen>Shabak+Yezidi <--- This is the ethnic political influence of Iraq in my opinion.

I hope you right ,but I just cant believe it, since our people are constantly leaving their homes for Europe and USA; Canada and Australia. Sure we got 5 seats in Iraqi parlement, this mean 1 seats is about 25 000 votes, 25 000 times 5seats equal 125 000, this number is not including all assyrians, since there were people who didnt vote at all and other people who are under 18 years old. but if our votes are about 125 000 and the question is how much will all that be togheter?

lets say all togher with those who didnt vote and those udner 18 years old, I wud say we are about approximatly 300 000. And if we are about this number I am still glad, and thats why I use to say our population in Iraq is about 500 000. Dont forget, our people are leaving Iraq day by day, no matter how good Iraq is, and this mean we are always decreasing no matter what. This is the biggest reason I am saying we are less than 700 000 people..

sure in Syria its different, but I believe our number in Syria will decreasing in the same way as in iraq, but if PKK got strong army and government, maybe together with them we wud try to survive. Right now, I dont think we have better option than PKK. The PKK is the only group who wud help us. They need us but we need them more..

I could tell you that majority of Assyrians did not vote for or were oppressed from voting for Assyrian parties, or again as you stated were under 18 years of age. Assyrians from Baghdad controlled territories mostly voted for Ayad Block, whereas the Assyrians from KRG territory mostly voted for Barzani Block and some voted for Goran Party.

It is true that there is some issues with immigration from Iraq, but I think it's hyped. Personally, population and language is not an issue at all for Assyrians in Iraq, it is the politics.

Remember right after 1933, an Assyrian politician (forgot his name) stated that the Assyrians were going to be extinct from Iraq. He even stated that there was no point to learn Assyrian writing if the extinction is inevitable, and then look at what happened decades after that, the Assyrians grew with a population of almost 2.5 million people, 600,000 just in Baghdad alone. We have went through 33 Genocides and should have been extinct long time ago, honestly, our extinction should have started as late as the 7th century AD. If you noticed, the pattern of Assyrian population is an up and down scenario, never a straight line. So within 20 - 30 years years, you will see the Assyrian population increase to probably between 6 - 8% of the Iraqi population.

The thing about Syria is that everyone's population is decreasing. They stated that In early 2014, there will be 4 million displaced people from Syria.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

I could tell you that majority of Assyrians did not vote for or were oppressed from voting for Assyrian parties, or again as you stated were under 18 years of age. Assyrians from Baghdad controlled territories mostly voted for Ayad Block, whereas the Assyrians from KRG territory mostly voted for Barzani Block and some voted for Goran Party.

It is true that there is some issues with immigration from Iraq, but I think it's hyped. Personally, population and language is not an issue at all for Assyrians in Iraq, it is the politics.

Remember right after 1933, an Assyrian politician (forgot his name) stated that the Assyrians were going to be extinct from Iraq. He even stated that there was no point to learn Assyrian writing if the extinction is inevitable, and then look at what happened decades after that, the Assyrians grew with a population of almost 2.5 million people, 600,000 just in Baghdad alone. We have went through 33 Genocides and should have been extinct long time ago, honestly, our extinction should have started as late as the 7th century AD. If you noticed, the pattern of Assyrian population is an up and down scenario, never a straight line. So within 20 - 30 years years, you will see the Assyrian population increase to probably between 6 - 8% of the Iraqi population.

The thing about Syria is that everyone's population is decreasing. They stated that In early 2014, there will be 4 million displaced people from Syria.

Well after the fall of our Empire, we actually had political power, although the difference is we were stateless. Even after Christianity we had powerful kings like Sennacherib II who adhered to Ashurism.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

I do believe that there are only 300,000 Assyrians left in Iraq. This number is not only coming from the Chaldean Assyrian Syriac Popular Council; various outside groups and human rights organizations estimate that there between 200,000-300,000 Christians left in Iraq, let alone Assyrians. This number is quite reliable and accurate.

We really have around 300,000; around 15,000 in Iran; some 10,000 in Turkey and most likely around around 500,000-600,000 in Syria that identify as Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean.

If there are 200,000 - 300,000 Assyrians (Lets say 250,000 Assyrians left in Iraq) Then that would mean that there are only 80,000 Assyrians in the Nineveh Plains out of 500,000 people. <---- This is not realistic

Just think about it this way: If there are 120,000+ Assyrians voting for 2 Assyrian political parties, then how can there be a total population of 250,000 Assyrians? This would mean that HALF of the Assyrian nation in Iraq are voting for 2 Assyrian parties alone. <-- again not realistic, and the Iraqi parliament would never give 5 Seats to 250,000 people. Only Turkmen and Assyrians have that authority as ethnic minorities to have 5 Seats because they have more than 500,000 people.

The Assyrian population in Iran varies. Some say that the population of Assyrians in Iran is around 40,000. I believe that 15,000 Assyrians live in Urmia , and 25,000 live in Tehran.

Turkey has over 20,000 Assyrians (Including the ones returning to Turkey from Europe, however, not including the refugees from Syria)

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

AssyrianPenguin1, There are alot of Christians in Syria but not everyone is considering themselves as Assyrians. Most of them are considering themselves as christians Arabs. There are Armenian as well and then Syriac and Assyrians.

I believe Syriac together with Assyrian we wud make 200 000 i northern Syria, we could be more but not any more.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.

Even after the fall of Nineveh (612BC) The Assyrians lived under their own law, they had their own autonomy under the different names such as Athura, Adiabene and Asuristan. It lasted till the 7th century AD.

Sennacherib II(2), was an Assyrian Governor or 'king' of northern Asuristan in 372 AD.