wow, guys, I can't say anything I'm speechless, I though australia was a liberal country, but seeing this news, I said its not better than china, after censoring game, Internet and now this !!!!, man australia really fu***d, so why you people always said about freedom of speech ? but you don't stand up about this ? even in indonesia (the biggest muslim country in the world) don't have something as intrusive as this(we still can get porn, violence game etc.).

FWIW, most american websites love taking proposals and acting like they're already enforced... none of the web-limiting stuff has made it through yet. Not the great firewall, not the censoring, nothing.

and i have a strange feeling that The Greens and The Libs will stop this going through. Gotta love Bob Brown. Conroy is almost pushing me to the point of wanting to vote Liberal but i can't do it so looks like the Sex Party may get my vote this time

and i have a strange feeling that The Greens and The Libs will stop this going through. Gotta love Bob Brown. Conroy is almost pushing me to the point of wanting to vote Liberal but i can't do it so looks like the Sex Party may get my vote this time

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conroy wants everyone to have access to nothing online, because he's scared his kids will be corrupted by the internet... and he's too dumb to figure out how to filter it locally, or to teach his children discipline.

our government seems to get more and more intrusive, I remember recently talks about laws to be able to search any car on the road on a whim, no grounds whatsoever required, this is along those same lines.

the article even says;

"You can't treat everybody like a criminal. That would be like tapping people's phones before they are suspected of doing any crime."

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this is exactly it, in a world where very few people are actually doing truly horrible thing on the net (like pedophilia or genuinely contributing to terrorism) they want to treat everyone as a suspect.

the crazy thing is crime in a general sense in Australia is quite low, so all that our law enforcement agencies are about (in-country) seems to be tightening traffic laws beyond belief, and censoring/monitoring what we do online, at least that's all I hear them talk about.

Let's depend on the government and glowing boxes to raise our children rather than just interact with them ourselves and distract them when they could be most at risk of running into porn and the like.

FWIW, most american websites love taking proposals and acting like they're already enforced... none of the web-limiting stuff has made it through yet. Not the great firewall, not the censoring, nothing.

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ups sorry if I wrong, I didn't mean it, you can move the thread if you think its wrong.

tbh, i never know that australia was really this intrusive, its beyond belief actually.

Wow, 60's flashback , I was just transported from Hardware to Networking.

IMO, the paranoid in government and big business, who think we (the people) are out to get them and take all they hold dear (wealth, power, and control) from them. So, they have to watch us, control us and take what we have, so we cannot do these oh so nefarious things. And, tell (brain wash) us it is for our own protection.

It has been 1984 for a long time, it is just spreading with the technological wave... grab your boards and hang ten, as the wave grows and curls.

Wow, 60's flashback , I was just transported from Hardware to Networking.

IMO, the paranoid in government and big business, who think we (the people) are out to get them and take all they hold dear (wealth, power, and control) from them. So, they have to watch us, control us and take what we have, so we cannot do these oh so nefarious things. And, tell (brain wash) us it is for our own protection.

It has been 1984 for a long time, it is just spreading with the technological wave... grab your boards and hang ten, as the wave grows and curls.

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like MP3 piracy, this just cant work unless a government is willing to lock up 2/3 of its population... and that 2/3, is 80% of the workforce.

like MP3 piracy, this just cant work unless a government is willing to lock up 2/3 of its population... and that 2/3, is 80% of the workforce.

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They don't need to lock up or fine that 2/3, just a portion to put the fear in the others.
Social control of the population by suggestive and\or exampled punishment. Punish the few and control the many.

Hurt locker, for instance. Just imagine how many people that situation has made get a chill down their spines. And, if they convict and fine them, even more coal for that fire.

They don't need to lock up or fine that 2/3, just a portion to put the fear in the others.
Social control of the population by suggestive and\or exampled punishment. Punish the few and control the many.

Hurt locker, for instance. Just imagine how many people that situation has made get a chill down their spines. And, if they convict and fine them, even more coal for that fire.

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and when they start doing that, civil unrest occurs and either the govmt backs down, or we become a dictatorship. You can bet your ass the opposing political parties will be all "vote us! we arent retards who will take away your civil liberties!"

and when they start doing that, civil unrest occurs and either the govmt backs down, or we become a dictatorship. You can bet your ass the opposing political parties will be all "vote us! we arent retards who will take away your civil liberties!"

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but will do it when they are in power anyways to protect the kids from another threat. Why is it always in the name of protecting the kids. Why not call it what it is, playing to the paranoia of computer illiterate parents. And appealing to the great unwashed bogan masses through shit like ACA and today tonight /vomit