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As good a answer as any. Now answer mine if your capable. LOL
Pssssttt-Hey its got to suck waking up one day to realize your a idiot who`s misjudged your enemies. You see anti boy we study you. Every moronic post you put up we take the time to destroy. Why because we have to educate millions of you less then adept whites that the truth you`ve been brainwashed with is really a sad sack of lies. On the other hand you fools come here expecting some toothless rednecks who cant even spell their names much less defend themselves. How does it feel man? Come on tell me how does it feel to know your inferior?

I had made my apologies earlier but I guess it was never posted. I don't know understand why you are being hostile though. I haven't said a word to you or have I tried to act rude in any kind of way. When you said test scores I thought you meant test scores as in student test scores (education) not IQ test scores. Of course Jews don't control that.

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I still wouldn't even use IQ Test scores to calculate how smart ones race as a whole is. IQ test results are only seen from a scientific point of view. They lack to take into account some of the social factors believed to determine intellegence such as economic status, stress in environment, access to education etc.

Another thing that bothers me is the fact that most of the users of this website seems to believe in their hearts that the mass killings of jews, homosexuals, romani people and mentally retarded people during WW2 didnt actually take place, and that it all was a hoax made up by the jews so that they could "steal a bit of the middle east".

I don't deny that these mass murders ever took place I just think that they were exaggerated.

I'm sure that you never learned of this mass killing when you were in high school.

The Ukrainian Famine and the collectivization of agriculture in 1932-1933 is one of the most important events in the history of the White race. All White racialist writers and scholars agree on this. No important White racialist writer disagrees.

Not only is this deliberate starvation of millions of White people as well as the deliberate executions of those who resisted it historically important, it is also VERY emotionally powerful, because it is very recent. There are many people still alive who remember the Ukrainian Famine because they were there, as victims or eyewitnesses.

All historians agree that the Jew Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich directed the Ukrainian Famine, and that Kaganovich (Jewish name: Kogan) served directly under Dzugashvili (fake name: Stalin) as a top henchman.

For all of these reasons the Ukrainian Famine is one of the very most important events to any White racialist today: 1) Because approximately 7,000,000 totally innocent Whites were murdered. 2) Because it happened only 70 years ago. 3) Because a Jew controlled it, with largely Jewish led NKVD squads.

The fact that millions were murdered, and the fact that it was intentional is universally admitted by all historians. More importantly to me, it is universally proclaimed by every White racialist historian or major writer who has ever written anything in the last half-century.

This is especially vitally important to about 50 million Ukrainians both in Ukraine and outside of Ukraine. I want all 50 million of those Ukrainians to post on Stormfront.org as a place where the truth of their White history is told and where they will be given the reverential respect which they deserve and to discover that their losses were carried out by the hands of the Jew Kaganovich and the NKVD (OGPU) demand.

These facts are no less vital to the hundreds of million other Whites on Earth who lost 7,000,000 of their brothers and sisters to the Jew Bolsheviks in 1932-33. In fact, it is very well known that the German people of the 1930s were reading letters smuggled out of Ukraine from their many Mennonite and other German farmer cousins as they starved to death. The German people were reading letters from mothers and fathers who had to describe what it was like as a farm family to hold their four-year old children as they died crying for any piece of food. How do you think that that experience, very fresh in the minds of 80 million Germans, affected their willingness to launch a war-to-the-death with Stalin and the very comfortable Lazar Kaganovich, his top aide, in 1941?

I urge you to consider the possibility that every Ukrainian who has ever lived or died since 1932 would be deeply offended by casual belittling of the most painful event in the entire history of their people.

All reputable historians have agreed that the Soviet secret police and political military units executed the policy of deliberate starvation, as well as summary executions, that caused these millions of deaths. It is also agreed that Jews predominated in these political secret police and military units. Their boss Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich was a Jew who was never tried for war crimes, but retired peacefully in his Moscow residence, where he died of old age in the 1970s (I believe....I'll look it up).

But the Ukrainian people can also be greatly angered if the actual statistics and best books of history that Ukrainian, Russian, English, American, Canadian and German historians are disregarded. For these Ukrainians these are not statistics; they are their dead ancestors, whose little children were the first to die as entire families starved to death. The smallest children had the least strength and reserves with which to survive starvation. The accounts that I have read of mothers and fathers having to face their tiny crying children and explain why there was no food, even though they were farmers have brought tears to my eyes.

This mass starvation is not ancient history. It happened only 70 years ago. There are many people alive today who were there. The huge Ukrainian population inside Ukraine and living in places like Canada and the United States has thoroughly documented this horror. It is very, very important for the camaraderie of Whites that this horror not be wished away, even if for well-meaning reasons.

I do have a Ukrainian ancestor, and I do have to fight back tears when I take down any of my many histories of the Ukrainian Famine to read it.

Where are the museams for this mass genocide? Why isn't this shoved down young European/American/Canadian throats at a very early age? Where are the movies and documentaries for it? Do you honestly think that the Jew Steven Speilberg will direct an award winning film on this?

In an interview with Peggy Noonan for Reader's Digest, Mel Gibson was put on the spot regarding revisionist historical views held by his father:

January 30, 2004 -- 'YOU'RE GOING to have to go on record. The Holocaust happened, right?" Peggy Noonan asks of Mel Gibson in the Reader's Digest for March.

Gibson: "I have friends and parents of friends who have numbers on their arms. The guy who taught me Spanish was a Holocaust survivor. He worked in a concentration camp in France. Yes, of course. Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine, several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century, 20 million people died in the Soviet Union."

Mr. Gibson was correct to put the Jewish holocaust in its proper perspective: as but one example of man's inhumanity towards man from a tragic century of death.

Curiously, this well-balanced response has attracted the ire of Jewish leaders-

Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center responded:

"We are not engaging in competitive martyrdom, but in historical truth. To describe Jewish suffering during the Holocaust as `some of them were Jews in concentration camps' is an afterthought that feeds right into the hands of Holocaust deniers and revisionists."

Abe Foxman of the ADL attacked as well:

"At the very least it was ignorant, at the very most its insensitive. And you know what? He doesn't get that either. He doesn't begin to understand the difference between dying in a famine and people being cremated solely for what they are."

Foxman's comments have drawn me out and it is time that some more cards be layed on the table in regards to the historical record.

Jews want a monopoly on being victims; if any other suffering group of people, whether they be Christian Russians, sub-Saharan Africans, or Armenians, claims to have suffered an equivalent injustice, they are quick to defend the "unparalleled evil" of the Jewish holocaust.

I happen to believe that one human life is one human life. I can think of several examples that far exceed the Jewish holocaust in depravity:

The Red Chinese murdered over 50 million to secure their hold on the government against nationalist forces.

The Soviet Union systemically murdered over 20 million people, including millions of Ukrainian Christians who were deliberately starved to death.

In America alone, over 30 million unborn children have been murdered at the hands of abortionists.

This Jewish claim of unique suffering is ridiculous, and yet another example of the "victim mentality" complex that seems to afflict them as a people.

Let us consider Foxman's statement that "dying in a famine" is different than "being cremated for who they are."

In a November 16, 2003 article for the Toronto Sun, Eric Margolis detailed the "forgotten" Holocaust of 1932-3 that killed over seven million Ukrainians:

Stalin declared war on his own people in 1932, sending Commissars V. Molotov and Lazar Kaganovitch and NKVD secret police chief Genrikh Yagoda to crush the resistance of Ukrainian farmers to forced collectivization.

Ukraine was sealed off. All food supplies and livestock were confiscated. NKVD death squads executed "anti-party elements." Furious that insufficient Ukrainians were being shot, Kaganovitch - virtually the Soviet Union's Adolf Eichmann - set a quota of 10,000 executions a week. Eighty percent of Ukrainian intellectuals were shot.

During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shot or died of starvation and cold.

Abe Foxman claims that the millions of Christians who were deliberately starved by Stalin's government merely "died in a famine." This is like saying that Jews who were executed "died due to a collision with a high velocity metallic object."

Foxman has insulted the survivors of the Ukrainian Holocaust and has insulted Christians everywhere by claiming a Jewish monopoly as victims of the evils of atheistic regimes.

However, there may be a darker reason for Foxman's comment. The article goes on to mention that, "Kaganovitch, Yagoda and some other senior Communist party and NKVD officials were Jewish..." Foxman could be signaling a most hateful insult, that Gentile suffering is of no consequence compared to that of Jews, dismissing the deaths of Ukrainians as if they were a herd of cattle.

When I think of all of the innocent blood that has been spilled in the name of equality and atheism in this century, I cannot help but rise up in anger at Foxman's insensitivity to the sufferings of Christians.

Dare I notice that this is the same group of people that killed Christ and persecuted early Christians?

Dare I notice that this members of this group were primarily responsible for carrying out the wholesale slaughter of millions of Ukrainians?

Dare I notice that the preferred response of this group is not respectful dialogue, but lies, propaganda, and character assassination?

Dare I notice that this group continues to seek to shut off the kingdom of God by attempting to censor this movie?

All Christians must at some point conclude that the assumption of mutual and reciprocal goodwill with the leadership of the Jewish community is flawed.

As Christ warned, they hate us because they hated Him.

May God be with Mel Gibson during this trying time and may God guide the hearts of Christians to stand up to these endless insults to their faith and religion.

I had made my apologies earlier but I guess it was never posted. I don't know understand why you are being hostile though. I haven't said a word to you or have I tried to act rude in any kind of way. When you said test scores I thought you meant test scores as in student test scores (education) not IQ test scores. Of course Jews don't control that.

Anyways..

I still wouldn't even use IQ Test scores to calculate how smart ones race as a whole is. IQ test results are only seen from a scientific point of view. They lack to take into account some of the social factors believed to determine intellegence such as economic status, stress in environment, access to education etc.

If you really want to take those factors into account, then lets look at reality and not fictional test scores. The reality is that everywhere in Africa, where the same factors you mention are always present, where the blacks have taken over from white rule; that specific country has fallen into chaos, famine, war, corruption, genocide, crime and total loss of control for all public security forces! So you see even this does not explain away the stupidity of the black negro race on this planet.

Scandinavians have won the "worlds strongest man" competitions a couple of times but the fact is that the average scandinavian has a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 28, which makes him slightly overweight. At the same time a normal scandinavian student can`t bench more than 80 pounds. When it comes to the health issue, scandinavians are more prone to get illnesses like arthritis (is that spelled correctly?), Morbus Chröns, and various types of cancer (colon, skin, prostate).

http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/planning/sos99/
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Blacks are less resistant to H.I.V. than Whites are, I'm not sure where Asians stand but I wouldn't be surprised if they were more resistant than Blacks and Whites. I'll see if I can dig up the article for that.

South African scientists are scratching their heads over startling new research that suggests some whites are more resistant to HIV/Aids than blacks.

Studies conducted in South Africa and abroad show that a large number of whites lack a particular protein in their bodies - a genetic "mutation" that has been shown to slow down the progression of HIV/Aids.

Blood tests conducted at Stellenbosch University show that blacks lack this "mutation".

I posted something similar in the "Genes in the News" thread in regard to SARS. It seems some Taiwanese researchers believe that Southern Chinese carry a gene which makes them susceptible to SARS. Supposedly, this is why it only broke out in Southeast Asia and in Toronto, which has a rather sizable Chinatown.

And when it comes to intelligence, I do not think we score much higher than any other "races".

What you think is wrong. American Blacks (who are one quarter White - see the AIDS article above) consistently score about a mean deviation (15%)below Whites on IQ tests, and African Blacks (100% Black) average even lower, around 70. I'm not going to bother with links, there're about a zillion on the 'Net - Google is your friend.

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One good example of this is that even though Norway, the country I am from, is one of the richest countries in the world, still some 20 percent of the population consider themselves poor

What do subjective self-appraisals of relative wealth have to do with objective IQ averages?

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and the unemployment rate is 4.5 percent.

Err, again, Google is your friend. Check out the unemployment figures in Africa.

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Bad voters and bad governement (and no, for those of you that likes to blaim all on the jewish people, we don`t have any in the governement as far as i can remember).

This is all subjective mate. I think it IS evidence for YOUR low intelligence though - I'm just making a wild guess based on your low level of argumentation.

As for Jews, try Google again: "crypto-jew" or "crypto jew," marrano, converso, etc. I'm not suggesting that your country is infested with these, but still, Jews don't exactly advertise being Jewish.

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Another thing that bothers me is the fact that most of the users of this website seems to believe in their hearts that the mass killings of jews, homosexuals, romani people and mentally retarded people during WW2 didnt actually take place, and that it all was a hoax made up by the jews so that they could "steal a bit of the middle east". That Cyclon-B was a de-licing chemical that never killed anyone (Cyclon-B does kill lice, but it also kills the people which the lice lives off). That the different jew mobs batteling internally in the prison camps was the real reason why 6 millions died.

I'm more of a holocaust revisionist than a holocaust orthodox, but this doesn't really have much to do with anything, does it?

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The fact that some of the readers of this webpage actually are brainwashed enough to believe in such things makes me sad. But I would really like some input on how you people have reasoned when you came to conclude on theese matters. As I previously stated, I do not speak English as a first language, so don`t get caught up in grammar/spelling errors. Please refrain yourself from using bad language in eventual replies.

Thanks in advance,
J.G

Ah, I see. We disbelieve the jillion holocaust films produced each year, the reams of propaganda pumped through schools, and the endless harping about the shoah, so that makes us brainwashed? Who is brainwashing us, pray tell? Brainwashing is the domain of the mass media, silly. Where exactly is the holocaust revision mass media?

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I'm an anti myself, but what bugs me is that it never occured to you or most antis that they could of easily deprived the people in the concentration camps of food (maybe about 60 days depending on weight), water (less than a week), shelter (first German winter would of killed them), and killed them cheaper and reallocate these resources back to the front line. Why not mention the slaughter of the others if you are going to bring up the homosexuals who make up less than 3% of any population group?

Wow, critical thought from an anti? Is the sky falling?

That's very perceptive of you friend. If the extermination myth is true, however, I think the Germans would've had a very hard time keeping people from attempting escape day in day out using your starvation method. What I don't understand is why the Germans didn't just dig pits and fill them with Jews and roll dirt on top, or build water-powered elevator cages that would just drop a load of Jews into water - ten minutes and they're all dead, with no messy poison gas residue or wasted fuel.

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Test Scores?

You guys actually use those to compare?

Why would you wanna do that when the education is controlled by the Jews.

Hah.

This kind of useless, sarcastic, unfair post will not endear you to the mods.
Contribute something useful or piss off, eh?

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the educational system differs from IQ tests. Remembering facts and figures in school is much different from the IQ test which measures raw intelligence, creativity, and brain power (and is not under jewish control). In such IQ tests it has been proven that whites are significantly more intelligent than other races especially blacks, and you dont even have to look at the difference in contributions to society. But thanks for your oh-so intellectual quips, justin j.

Actually, when the subject is the comparison of the mean IQs of Caucasiods, Negroids, and Mongoloids, Mongoloids come first, followed closely by Caucasoids, with Negroids placing a distant third. Various subgroups fare better: White Episcopaleans, Ashkenazi Jews, etc.

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I still wouldn't even use IQ Test scores to calculate how smart ones race as a whole is. IQ test results are only seen from a scientific point of view. They lack to take into account some of the social factors believed to determine intellegence such as economic status, stress in environment, access to education etc.

The differences hold in controlled tests, such as Black kids adopted into wealthy White households.

Another thing that bothers me is the fact that most of the users of this website seems to believe in their hearts that the mass killings of jews, homosexuals, romani people and mentally retarded people during WW2 didnt actually take place, and that it all was a hoax made up by the jews so that they could "steal a bit of the middle east". That Cyclon-B was a de-licing chemical that never killed anyone (Cyclon-B does kill lice, but it also kills the people which the lice lives off). That the different jew mobs batteling internally in the prison camps was the real reason why 6 millions died.

The fact that some of the readers of this webpage actually are brainwashed enough to believe in such things makes me sad. But I would really like some input on how you people have reasoned when you came to conclude on theese matters. As I previously stated, I do not speak English as a first language, so don`t get caught up in grammar/spelling errors. Please refrain yourself from using bad language in eventual replies.

Thanks in advance,
J.G

"One who believes in the equal right of all people is truly a man at piece with himself"

This from someone who has suckled on the kosher media, and kosher history books from day one. pm muaddib about the jews, he has a great list of non-kosher references. Judge for yourself.