A friend of mine believe the feds snuck this in based what a local gun shop told him in PA. I have not experienced this but live in KY. Did something new happen and I missed the million emails I normally get or is this something that's happening at the state level - for example in Colorado?

I had work done at a shop in Ohio several years ago. Their insurance required all weapons to be on their FFL log. This required a background check and a 4473 to get you weapon back. I have had work done by other shops with no check or 4473.

* * * * * * *High capacity is not an acceptable substitute for good marksmanship.

About five years ago I had a NY watchsmith/goldcrafter tell me he had a visit from the NY State Police regarding his firearm gold inlay work. In the past people had always left their firearm pieces/receivers and he would work on them. The police said that since he wasn't a FFL, the only way that work could be performed would be for the person to sit there beside him and never leave his store. They also reminded him he needed additional insurance (I assume liability).It essentially meant he was going to have to stop working firearm inlay. I moved so I didn't see what ultimately happened. Ya gotta love NY state. It's never found a fee, tax or law it didn't like.

I call BS on this one, considering you can personally ship a pistol, even out of anti gun New York when I lived there, to for example Wilson combat for gunsmithing and they can ship it back to you with no ffl dealer involvement at all.

Well, I dunno-I DO know in NY state (lived there a number of years with a concealed carry permit) that you CANNOT let anyone touch/shoot/hold your evil pistol unless they have also have a permit (excluding NYC and other areas). That much is one of their many crazy laws. Even then they have to be with you and has to be at a range. Check it out- (NY Penal Law 265.20). NY is a complicated state-

That said, I seem to recall a rule change back during the Obama Administration, that if a firearm was sent out of state for repairs, it had to be shipped to an (instate) FFL on return, and a Form 4473 and background check had to be performed to transfer the repaired firearm back to the owner. However, I can't seem to find anything on that.

ETA: See pages 2 & 3 in the following ATF publication, sections titled Firearm Transfers that Require a Background Check, and Transfers that Do Not Require a Background Check (PDF download).

Originally posted by Storm:From the Horse's Mouth (ATF). See the last two entries in this list:Must a licensed gunsmith conduct a NICS background check on the return of repaired or customized firearms?

Is an ATF Form 4473 required when a gunsmith returns a repaired firearm?

That said, I seem to recall a rule change back during the Obama Administration, that if a firearm was sent out of state for repairs, it had to be shipped to an (instate) FFL on return, and a Form 4473 and background check had to be performed to transfer the repaired firearm back to the owner. However, I can't seem to find anything on that.

ETA: See pages 2 & 3 in the following ATF publication, sections titled Firearm Transfers that Require a Background Check, and Transfers that Do Not Require a Background Check (PDF download).