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Morning Buzz: The Rest Of USC’s Recruiting Class

With 10 players signed last month and four more commitments, who else will USC sign? Here’s what I would say right now: linebacker Solomon Tuliaupupu from Mater Dei; wide receiver Devon Williams of Antelope Valley; cornerbacks Olaijah Griffin (Mission Viejo), Isaac Taylor-Stuart (Helix) and Julius Irvin (Servite) along with offensive tackle Penei Sewell of St. George, Utah.

That’s quite a haul for a staff that has so many coaches who seemingly doesn’t enjoy the recruiting process. And, before somebody starts the USC recruits on their name, Tide sells on their name…. you don’t make the second purchase if there product doesn’t preform. Obviously, the athletes are impressed enough with where the USC program is headed to make that commitment.

Trojans 6942

Well it all depends. If we get all these players it’s because SC recruits itself. But if we miss on Sewell, Irvin or Williams. Well that’s because the lack of recruiting and the kids see a dying coach with a failing program.

steveg

Failing at USC? They all go in believing they are the guy that is going to make the difference. The football program at SC is far from failing my friend, and although you may not like him, he is held in high regard by his players, staff, and many fans and alumni. Not all for sure, especially on this site with Wolf leading the parade. Moms and dads give their sons over to Clay Helton, who sells USC. Does SC recruit itself, not that much, but it is getting better than it was. Still and always better than sucla.

Trojans 6942

Steveg read my post. Re-read that post. I’m in Helton’s corner, not because I don’t think he has flaws but because of where we were and where we’re at, I know it doesn’t happen overnight. I think the process is working. 2018 is a big year in that process not from wins and losses but from the perspective of ARe we getting more physical does the offensive line get push. Can the Db’s cover consistently. Do we look like we belong. A true top 5 program. I believe we will.

steveg

My humble apology. The only place USC looks soft is O line. Defense, at least to me is going to be lights out. Clancy has figured out how to stop the running QB, and with the speed of our linebackers on the outside, the rpo is going to be tough to run against us. If they can get some speed at middle LB, going to be very tough for offenses to move the ball. I love Cam Smith, he is slow, but he sure is disciplined.

Trojans 6942

We good, we’re all in this thing together. Even those who oppose my thought process. I just knew you read it wrong. Fight On.

Trojan96

OLine will be much better this year with Jackson at LT and Voorhees at RG. Sewell would be a huge get as we need OGs badly after next year. I doubt we take another WR. Especially with Pittman’s little bro coming in 2019. 2019 is going to be stacked with tons of WR talent.

Michael Guarino

We’ll get the answer to ‘Is Trojan Football 2018 For Real’ very early in the season. If our corners can help rather than hurt the team up at Palo Alto, we’re for real. If the o-line can give our QB a full 3 seconds to throw the ball, we’re for VERY real.

gotroy22

Shutting down Heisman front runner Love would be sugar sweet!

Trojan96

We will be better. As our Tackle talent will be much improved. Not because of Callaway. When is that guy going to be fired???

Brent4c

Your gonna get hit by the Debbie downer cadre on here who has no idea what it takes to climb out of the hole we were in. I agree with everything oube said especially the piece about why would top recruits come to USC if the coaching is so pathetic. Well they wouldn’t, families aren’t dumb.

peter

It won’t be lack of recruiting. Besides coaches, current recruits are all over these kids 247.

Lunderful

Also, many players and/or their parents place a premium on education quality and value of the degree.

Michael Guarino

JT Daniels was just named the #17 top incoming offensive player in the nation by Bleacher Report. Not the most impressive ranking imaginable —but it looks a lot better when you consider the fact that none of the 16 payers ahead of him are on any of the teams we play in our regular schedule (those guys are all going to Clemson, Georgia or Miami).

peter

Read the BR after you mentioned it, thanks.
Not sure who put it together, although I’d say they live in southeast.
Tanner Mckee on the list .even though he won’t play for 2 years .
Devon Williams ahead of JT ? If Devon comes to USC he will redshirt.
Who ever wrote this had little care about it being read out west.

There was an article on Bleacher Report about where top recruits were going to end up. I was shocked on how many offensive lineman were going to Georgia.

Michael Guarino

Me too. But, since we’re, at best, probably going to the Rose Bowl & not the playoffs for the next few years, it’s more of a problem for Alabama.

gotroy22

Lowered expectations are the new normal.

Cloud Shaman

Also only a junior

Arturo

Outside of Bama, most teams need the QB to be the top player on offense. Heck, even the Tide needed a true frosh to bail them out in the title game. The reason why Georgia lost? Poor QB play. BR naming JT the 17th top incoming offensive player is a joke.

Michael Guarino

I’m curious, Arturo —- where would you rank him? Top 5?
#IWould

Shawnman

Olaijah Griffin a true punt returner, didn’t have one last year.

James Caso

What about Ben Griffiths from Australian Rules Football coming in as a punter?

steveg

Saw in the news he is going to OK St.

Fred Sampson

Harvey Hyde’s podcast yesterday, about USC not recruiting toughness along the offensive line, was on point. And he called out Clay Helton, about the lack of emphasis on the running game

Jack B

If we get 4-star Penei Sewell (#2 OG, best prospect in Utah) in addition to Liam Douglass (3-star) and Justin Dedich 4-star, #2 ranked OC), it will be ridiculous to complain about the added OLs. A superior grad or JC transfer out of somewhere would be phenomenal, but with Sewell, Douglass and Dedich, Hyde would have nothing to rant about, based on recruiting.

Fred Sampson

We don’t know any of these recruits personally, High School accolades mean nothing, Harvey Hyde was talking about the recent history of USC recruiting soft lineman. Damian Mama, and Zach Banner were highly decorated coming out of high school, and both were useless. Hyde said coaches have to recognize toughness, which is something Clay Helton, and his Bozo staff have no clue of

steveg

Tell that to the D line.

Michael Guarino

Fred is so (probably justifiably) disappointed in the play of our o-line that he keeps forgetting about that “other” line —which performed admirably in every game except Notre Dame.

steveg

I have heard some tidbits of perhaps moving a D lineman to O line. Not sure who though.

Michael Guarino

They are a tougher bunch —with way more swagger. I just wonder if Callaway will know what to do with them, steveg.

steveg

Callaway would have to get out of the way.

Michael Guarino

Yeah—I would surely hate to see Callaway un-do what Udeze has already done with player attitude and physicality….

steveg

Still nothing on the 49er offer for KU? Or was there even an offer?

Michael Guarino

Nothing new —and that’s good news. USC must be working hard at keeping Udeze.

peter

I think we have plenty of good OL. 5+1 (McKenzie )last year. plus the 2-3 this year.Total maybe 15 ?
Strength condition /Coaching is where it has to come together. Leadership would help .Conway s job on line. Their his guys now.

Fred Sampson

“Tell that to the D line”…. Man, what are you talking about, you get off topic all the time, just to make conversation…smh

steveg

Bozo Staff includes who? Be a little more specific in your negativity.

Michael Guarino

I love Fred….but he thinks “staff’ are only the ones working with the o-line. And, thank God, that’s not true.
#WhatIfCallawayCoachedBothLines?

steveg

Fred is okay, I disagree with him sometimes, but no big deal.

Amazing what your mind can come up with. One of the scariest comments I’ve seen on here.
#WhereCouldIOrderAFresnoStShirt

Michael Guarino

Information is power, steveg. Now I know how to really scare you: What if Callaway is made interim Head Coach during a mid season transition?
#Re-ReadThisJustBeforeBedTime

steveg

I have enough trouble going to sleep, leave my feeble old mind alone.

#NeverHireASadisticLawyer

Michael Guarino

Ha! [I wouldn’t hire me either]….

steveg

LMAO

gotroy22

That is a frightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Guarino

Callaway half time speech for Notre Dame game 2018: “Now get out there and play hard! What’s that?! I hope that wasn’t a question!! Cuz I ain’t answering any damn questions!”
#”QuestionsAreJustWayOfTryingToTrickMe”

Chris

And Harvey was a roaring success as a coach. Helton is 20 times the coach Harvey ever was. The idea that he would criticize any other coach is rediculuos.

Jack B

While Mama and Banner were certainly over-rated prep slugs who lacked athleticism and ability to go along with their size, I don’t understand your over-reliance on poor Harvey Hyde, who hasn’t coached in almost 30 years and wasn’t any good when he did.

Hyde was 8-37-1 at UNLV and his players we always in severe trouble. Sorry, but Harvey Hyde couldn’t even hold Bruce Rollinson’s jock as a HS coach at Mater Dei. Now if Rollo, just a HS coach, was saying this stuff, I might listen. By Hyde? Not a chance. Hyde’s a simple joke more than anything.

Fred Sampson

Funny though, everything he said was on point

Jack B

Feel free to think he’s some big expert from the dinasaur era. A lot of us view him as a simple-minded clown who couldn’t coach D1 ball if he tried. He has no idea of what it takes to compete at an elite level, none.

There’s plenty of CH critics out there, me included. Hyde’s just another failed coach who has learned that talk is easy from the cheap seats.

Jack B

We don’t need Harvey Hyde to tell us what we can ALL see – that USC has misevaluated some of its OL recruits over the last several years. Harvey’s hardly some authority, himself. He fully stunk up the joint as a college coach 30 years ago and is no more qualified to critique USC football than your average fan.

88 Straight

You may have to pry Sewell away from Dixie State University!

Pudly76

Was reading that saban will be in Anaheim on Tuesday night to visit Irvin..not giving up easily.

steveg

According to the stats, USC ran the ball 543 times for 2591 yards, passed the ball 491 times for 4186 yards. Sounds balanced offense I thought. Am I wrong?

Fred Sampson

As usual you are, because USC didn’t run the ball when they were supposed to, I don’t care how many yards they totaled

steveg

I see. So you know and nobody else knows when to run the ball and when to run the ball again. Yardage is only a stat I agree. Not sure those Bozo coaches can keep up with you Fred.

Brent4c

Don’t tell Fred Ohio St couldn’t run the ball either vs SC when they were “supposed” to like in the 2nd half.

JustOwns

Ohio St. didn’t try very hard to run when up 17 points and their defense strangling the listless, Piglet lead, bozo offense

Brent4c

“Ohio St didn’t try very hard” yeah ok because teams and players don’t have it drilled into them about NFL scouts etc watching tape all the time. The myth that teams purposely don’t try hard when they have a lead is a myth. Do they execute as well, maybe or maybe not. If the effort isn’t there then they’ll be replaced and they know this.

Michael Guarino

Owns was in the Ohio State locker room at half time when Meyer told the players, “From here on, I want nothing but three and outs! Does everyone understand that?! I don’t want to score another point! Keep it at 24!”

Cloud Shaman

Many games USC couldnt establish its run game because of the front 7 penetration from opposing teams.

steveg

USC stumbled when trying to pick up the blitz. I always wondered why Sam never had any audibles he could call when making his initial reads.

rusoviet

USC 77 Cal 59 – 6th straight victory

USC 17 – 6 (8 – 2)

Jack B

I’d take those extra 6, The Big 6, in a second. Hope it pans out like that.

Sebastian Lane

More February magic? SW likes to be right. I hope he’s spot on with those picks…..

steveg

Wolf needs to tell us where are they going to put them? Enough slots?

Pudly76

Right or wrong, Scott putting his money on the line is great!! If it’s correct it is a great class..

Michael Guarino

Yeah —exactly. [And I bet Scott’s pretty close on this one].

steveg

So if he is we will hear about it all season. “As I predicted”…

#IHateItWhenScottIsRight

Michael Guarino

It’s as good as done….
#”SomeOfYouMayRemember….”

peter

I’ve never known SW to make a list BEFORE signing day.Usually it’s who we missed after. He even went on limb with Sewell …..
Just looked in sky to see if pigs fly.

Pudly76

They do fly, and on a thin limb at that. I can respect that though…doing his job and taking a stand!

Trojans 6942

Getting all six is going to be tough. If it’s the case what a recruiting class. Sewell has been wearing Bama gear lately that doesn’t make it 100 percent but it can’t help. The fact he didn’t come in with the rest of his boys this weekend is also not a good sign. One could argue he’s seen all he needs to see in terms of SC. IMO Sewell, Griffin, Stuart are the Big gets because of need. Irvin too but not as much as those three. Looking at Bama sites it looks as if they think Irvin is a big get for they’re needs.

GOMER HELTON

Sewell would be a surprise and I’m not sure how good he is, doesn’t play against much competition in St George Utah

steveg

If we got them all that would be 4 cornor backs in one class. Great job but that means someone is going to sit. Let the cream rise to the top. Hope they don’t scare each other off before signing day.

Michael Guarino

Anyone who gets scared off ain’t Trojan material in the first place, steveg.
#Darwin

steveg

So I guess CB’s have souls?

Michael Guarino

Yes, steveg. Every damn corner on earth……except one.

steveg

Should I ask which one?

Michael Guarino

I can give you his repetitive initials…..
#…ButMiraclesArePossible

Pudly76

We play as many as 5 at a time in certain formations. And Irvin and ITS are more combo backs anyway, able to swing from cb to safety

Sure sounds like they are getting it together for the big run at the end.

Michael Guarino

We’ll get the answer in the very next game, steveg.
#BeatUCLA

04Trojan

Seriously. And I think the Melton Theory holds true: The team got closure with the final decision and was able to move on.

Michael Guarino

Very good point. In order to keep focused, the team needed to know once and for all who the “team” was.

steveg

Now that they know that, it is just a matter of bringing them up to peak at the Tourney.

Michael Guarino

If USC takes out a (very) motivated (and talented) UCLA team at their place, I’m gonna feel very good about the rest of the season.

88 Straight

You forgot schizophrenic when describing UCLA.

Michael Guarino

Hope that kicks in again next game.

88 Straight

We will see. Bruins played like a team against Stanford. Neither team has displayed consistent D.

Michael Guarino

I get to watch the game with my in-laws —-all of whom are Bruins.
#LuckyMe

88 Straight

Sounds like you married into a fine family!

Michael Guarino

Damn, 88 Straight. You have me cornered. I guess the smart thing to do is not comment.

88 Straight

The fact that you don’t see this stuff as life or death is a good sign. I just returned from an appointment at Keck. I’m probably not the only Bruin over there.

Michael Guarino

Everything okay, my friend?

88 Straight

Yes. All good. I get good care there. Luckily, Carmine wasn’t one of my doctors!

Michael Guarino

Good to hear. You had me worried.
[Yeah —Carmine was only your go-to guy if you were an 18 year old coed who wanted to party non stop in a Pasadena Hotel]…..

88 Straight

47 years with Type 1 (Juvenile) diabetes. I have a great USC doctor that was previously at UCLA. All partisanship aside, we are lucky to have 2 world class medical schools in Los Angeles and I have had great care from both.

You will be the light in that room… as you are in all the ones you enter.

Michael Guarino

What a great thing to hear from a friend [on a day that otherwise was unbelievably hard]!

gotroy22

And all the talent abandoned ship last season. The ruins are on the NCAA March Madness bubble.

88 Straight

So are the Trojans. Pre-season #11 and #4 with the FBI.

gotroy22

The Big Game is huge!

JustOwns

FYI 04, bozo BB hasn’t defeated a top 25 team this season….Nothing but cupcake teams.

04Trojan

FYI, try to lay off the sauce.

Michael Guarino

That should be more than an FYI, 04Trojan —it should be a Surgeon General Health Advisory.

hoohoolianFUCLA

A. it’s basketball
B. We are underachieving AGAIN.
C. We killed a cupcake, but not impressively. (18-point Favs won by 18.)

04Trojan

A. We won.
B. Flow would definitely mention a loss.
C. We still won.

hoohoolianFUCLA

Aaaaannnnnndddddd?

We won in Women’s hoops, Women’s Water Polo, Men’s Tennis…none of which are under-achieving and 2 of which are serious contenders to bring more NCs to us.

04Trojan

Calm down, Cortez/Gomer/Western Kentucky, etc., etc.

hoohoolianFUCLA

Calm down? I’m yawning at basketball and the need to hear more about it.

hoohoolianFUCLA

Flow would definitely mention a loss?

That’s because a “top 10” team losing is news; beating up a basement team is NOT.

gotroy22

The old newspaper saying, “If it bleeds it leads”…

hoohoolianFUCLA

Unless it involves a rightfully-armed citizen properly and lawfully shooting a bad guy…especially and illegal alien with multiple violent felonies and several previous deportations bad guy.

hoohoolianFUCLA

Did you see my previous response was removed?

gotroy22

Remember the Daily Snooze is runs by libs.

dirtmover

It seems to me that recruiting has not been the issue these last couple of years – Trojans are getting quality kids, that have talent- the issue has been… hmmmm what could it be??? coaching perhaps…..

Tebow_Obama

So Clay Helton is using the Trojans blow out losses to Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State as a recruiting tool? Clay Helton and his offense coaching staff using the Trojans mediocre play where the Trojans struggled vs mediocre and soft teams and barely came away with wins, is that another selling point Helton is using as part of his recruiting tool arsenal?

USC Trojan football recruits itself, most if not all of the recruits that have committed or signed with the Trojans were coming anyway, they’ve grown up Trojan fans, they sure as hell aren’t coming to USC because of Clay Helton’s coaching abilities because the man has none.

With each passing year dating back to 2010 when Clay Helton was initially hired at USC, there have been less and less Trojans players being drafted into the NFL and certainly less and less Trojans players having extended NFL careers because the Trojans players that have played under Kiffin, Sarkisian and Helton haven’t been properly coached up. Whatever success those players have had in college or the NFL can be attributed to their own natural talent because like I said, Kiffin, Sarkisian and Helton aren’t teaching them anything that they didn’t already know.

So this notion that Clay Helton is bringing in some spectacular recruiting class because these recruits want to play for him is a joke. I dare any of you Clay Helton supporters to try and name one player, name one player since Clay Helton has been at USC that has attributed his play as having improved as a direct result of Clay Helton’s coaching…go ahead and see if you can find one, it ain’t going to happen.

So stop with the nonsense that Helton is bringing in a stellar recruiting class, the recruits that have signed or committed were always coming to USC regardless off who the head coach was or is.

Pudly76

Stupid Hillbilly Troll, St Brown’s brothers went to different schools, and Sewell grew up in Utah. They came, or will come because they’ve been convinced to come. Your full of it and your useless statement of opinion that you claim are facts are a joke..
Stupid hillbilly troll.

Tebow_Obama

Name one player that has said they were coming to USC because they want to be coached up by Clay Helton. Name one you stupid sunshine pumping clown. You can’t because you boy Clay Helton is a terrible coach.

LOL!

Or better yet, name one Trojan that has gone onto the NFL that has said Clay Helton’s coaching was responsible for that player making it to the NFL.

You’re not going to find one player saying that, so all this garbage you spew here in this forum where you think you know what you’re talking about, you don’t know chit!

LMFAO! You thinking you know recruiting, thinking you have the inside scoop on what players are doing what…you’re as big a joke as Clay Helton.

Just shut up, Bozo…you don’t have a clue.

Pudly76

Your so stupid, figure it out, which ones said that SC failed them?? Oh you such a smart guy.. Nwosu, Green, Falah, even Adoree got his Thorpe award by accident. You’re a stooge..Smith-Schuster might have improved but then your just a pos looking for a bowl..go home Hillbilly Troll.

GABBY702

The guy takes great joy arguing with people even when he’s completely wrong and out in left field

He logs into his Gomer helton handle to give himself an upvote, pathetic

GABBY702

Tool time is over, back to work. The heads are filthy, wolf had a rough night and gomer helton completely missed the rim(what a loser)

Tebow_Obama

Hey Nancy Pudly, you track down those players you said committed to USC because they wanted to play for the “Great Coaching Genius” Clay Helton yet?

The “Great Coaching Genius” Clay Helton that has sent so many Trojans onto the NFL where they have become Pro Bowlers and All Pro’s.

LMFAO! That never happened.

No you haven’t tracked down any players who have attributed any NFL success to Clay Helton or Lane Kiffin or Steve Sarkisian…because there aren’t any.

You want to know why Nancy Pudly, because the “Three Stooges” that you love so much, Kiffin, Sarkisian and Helton (all cut from the same cloth) have wasted USC’s talent, that’s why.

Those “Three Stooges” in all the years they were at USC never were able to coach up any of the 4 and 5 star recruits that were highly ranked coming out of high school, the only thing the “Three Stooges” developed at USC was reducing the Trojan football program to being not even being mediocre vs elite teams to struggling vs soft teams that they should have been blowing out.

Trojans 6942

Not to state the obvious, but of course they’re are less players going into the NFL from 2010 to the present. They’re we’re less Trojans in the program during those yrs. In fact one yr. we sent 42 players to a road game. People forget easily win trying to push an agenda. Do know how many players made NFL rosters last yr from SC? Bet you don’t? Other wise you wouldn’t be making such remarks.

Tebow_Obama

The sanctions were done in 2014.

In 2010 USC had the #1 ranked recruiting class, did you know that…no you didn’t.

In 2011, did you know that USC had signed 30 commits and had the #4 ranked recruiting class in the nation? No you didn’t.

In 2012, USC had the #8 ranked recruiting class in the nation. Did you know that? Nope, you didn’t.

In 2013, did you know that USC had the #13 ranked recruiting class in the nation? Again, no you didn’t.

In 2014, did you know that USC had signed 20 commits and pulled in the #10 ranked recruiting class? Nope, you didn’t.

In 2015, did you know that USC had the #1 ranked recruiting class in the nation, again? USC signed 26 recruits that year. Nope, you didn’t.

Run along, Nancy…go see if you can track down one of those players you say came to USC to play for Clay Helton because you said he was a great coach.

“graduating seniors”…you’re an idiot.

LMFAO! Classic!

Pudly76

Stupid hillbilly, why so few seniors? Can’t answer because it doesn’t fit your agenda… your so full of crud you see only brown light..

Hillbilly troll.

Trojans 6942

Let me ask you a question? Do you think a five star player say J.T. is going to come to SC just because it’s SC? He’s thinking about development and becoming a number one drafted player. Do really think he’s thinking of jeopardizing this just to come to USC. Really man, think.

GABBY702

It’s hard to argue with stupidity

JustOwns

Well if J.T. is thinking about that, he’s dumb as a rock. Not one single former bozo QB has started, won or loss a SB, ever.

GABBY702

“it’s big business”

So trolling a blog is big business…LOL!
must suck to be you

#BasementLife
.

Trojans 6942

Dude it doesn’t matter where they ranked. Some of those yrs. we had 15 recruits. Also how many injuries and transfers that we wasn’t able to replace because of sanctions. All I’m saying is given the perspectives it’s is easy to see why they may not have produced as many NFL players.

Tebow_Obama

15 recruits? Nope, that never happened. Try harder.

GABBY702

Stay in your lane, Pop Warner is your calling

Pudly76

Yes it did..went through this with you already..you’re a hillbilly troll and lying comes naturally to you.

Trojans 6942

It never happened? What.

GABBY702

The guy is off his meds and obviously confused

Pudly76

That’s his debating style, he yells it didn’t happen then holds his breath till everybody leaves.

Did I stutter? I listed the sanction year recruits above, lets see how well you do at trying to make excuses about how badly the “severely depleted” (bunch of B.S. you people keep using) roster was affected by sanctions.

Trojans 6942

Man I don’t know what to tell ya. Except what world do live in, The NCCA which the California Supreme Court said they used Extreme Malice and Prejudice against SC. These same people didn’t follow though and make sure we followed those very sanctions which it penalized. Ok?

Tebow_Obama

I never stated that the NCAA didn’t screw over USC, but this crap about how you and all the other Sunshine Pumpers keep saying the Trojans didn’t have the players to compete during the sanction years is B.S.

Here try this, you go look up the total number of players actually being used during a game on average that a CFB team uses per game, then you come back and try and sell me on your sanctions being the reason why you think USC was so hindered during the sanction years.

Trojans 6942

I just said that they actually went with 42 players on a road game . The NFL has a 53 man roster plus 10 man practice squad. Up to 90 for spring training. This is the NFL. But ur saying that they didn’t have problems during sanctions. Not to mention the NFL can bring in as many players deem necessary as long as they are under the cap.

Tebow_Obama

You show me one year where USC had only 42 players on their roster for the year.

How many players a coach chooses to take on a road game or use in any game is entirely up to the coach. But to suggest and try and use that coaches stupidity, tu utilize so few players from his roster as for a reason expectations should be so low for a Trojan football team is beyond stupid.

You provide the link where J.T. Daniels said he’s committed to USC because he wants his QB talent to be developed by Clay Helton.

LOL!

I’m waiting.

Yale O. Leftwich

you would find that many only in the 50’s…’52 team is my all time favorite…I think they are pointing out SC chose to only take that many scholarship players that were not injured, or declared grade ineligible, etc…the sanctions did hurt some, but the coaching hurt worse,those practices like now are way too soft to play against the BigBoys, as we have seen.

Yale O. Leftwich

I actually concur with most of your evals, but I think Kiffin did have a high rated class of 4 and 5 stars,but about only 15 in it…and are you really as angry about SC football as you sound? I am a long time ardent SC fan,my first game to attend was 1951…but unless you are a Red Sanders clone, life is a little more than football, sometimes …right? hope my spelling was ok.

Cloud Shaman

I think he bringing them in because Clay Helton is a man of his word. Not all of those top players are going to start so they have to be convinced that they will get a fair shot if they come to USC.

Tebow_Obama

A fair shot to start…WTF? Michael Pitman’s father had to talk to Helton about why his son wasn’t seeing any playing time. Helton said it was because Micheal Pitman was hurt. That was news to Michael Pitman and his father.

Is that the “fair shot” recruiting tactic you’re referring to?

Come on, you people really are something else. And you claim to have gone to USC and graduated? Please!

steveg

One thing Helton is is honest with players.

Tebow_Obama

Even during the years USC was under NCAA sanction the Trojans never has a problem in getting 4 and 5 star recruits to commit and sign…that’s because USC is USC.

hoohoolianFUCLA

So 6 more players will drop from the current roster?

That’s a longshot.

steveg

Remember, this is “Inside USC”. LOL

Tebow_Obama

USC with it’s overwhelming advantage in number of 4 and 5 star recruits that it gets heading into every college football season should not be struggling to pull out wins vs the likes of Arizona, UCLA, a bad Texas team, Cal, Utah, Colorado and WESTERN MICHIGAN!

GABBY702

Take some time off, your blood pressure is spiking…thanks

Guest.user73

I just hope any of these kids don’t look here for advice. Not because of anything the reporter has said or done, but because we all have opinions and they often clash. It looks like Trojan fans cannot agree on anything, but that is not true.
I believe all Trojan fans want the team to win. Some like a physical overpowering team, some want an exciting team and very few like it when we squeak by a team we shouldn’t have trouble with.
That being said, I would love to see all of these kids at SC and be it for 3 years or 4, I’d rather have them on our roster than any of the grad transfers. A one and done player does nothing to build the future. Having a grad transfer on the roster is like putting oatmeal on a roof leak. It wont last long enough. Juco kids are a different story they have been great over the years and if they have earned a spot, we need them.
Feel free to disagree

Arturo

Would agree with you, but then that might mean that Stevie T. wasn’t the man a couple of years ago. I do think that he built up the program as he contributed to the very productive Polynesian pipeline that has been established throughout the years.

Throughout all those years and all those highly ranked recruiting classes that USC pulled in, how many of the numerous 4 and 5 star recruits (and there were a lot of them) were coached up by the “Three Stooges” have gone onto exceptional NFL careers?

Remember, Clay Helton has been coaching at USC since 2010, it’s now 2018, so he’s seen his fair share of 4 and 5 star recruits that he should have been able to coach up while at USC if he had a clue on how to coach.

Tebow_Obama

So now the word from the Sunshine Pumpers here in this forum is that J.T. Daniels reason for coming to USC is for QB development.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA! Oh my side hurts from laughing so much!

Yeah, as if the “Three Stooges” (Kiffin, Sarkisian & Helton) have such a great track record of developing QB talent.

ROTFLMFAO!

Out of all the highly ranked QB recruits that have played under and been “coached up” under the Three Stooges, which one have they developed that amounted to anything in the NFL? Name one.

J.T. Daniels is coming to USC to be coached up by Clay Helton to develop his talent…AHA HA HA HA HA HA!

That has to be the dumbest chit I’ve ever read in this forum.

Put up the link to that supposed quote by J.T. Daniels that he’s coming to USC to be developed and coached up by Clay Helton because if that kid said that USC should pull it’s scholarship offer like yesterday!

You and Gary Klein need to pull your heads out of your arse. Look at the 2014 USC Trojans roster, you telling me most of those players were injured.

“attrition” due to the NCAA, with that roster?

LOL! Like I said, try harder.

Tebow_Obama

Lets debate this. Why would Steve Sarkisian (One of the Sunshine Pumpers Trojan Heroes) only want to take 41 scholarship players to the 2014 Holiday Bowl when his 2014 USC Trojans roster included all these players…a lot of them 4 and 5 star recruits.

Does this 2014 USC Trojans football roster look like it was severely depleted due to NCAA sanctions?

Quarterback

4 Max Browne – Freshman (6’5, 220)

6 Cody Kessler – Junior (6’1, 210)

8 Andrew Zolintakis – Freshman (6’0, 170)

10 Jalen Greene – Freshman (6’2, 200)

14 Conner Sullivan – Sophomore (6’0, 195)

15 Michael Bowman – Freshman (6’4, 200)

Running Back

22 Justin Davis – Sophomore (6’1, 195)

23 Tre Madden – Junior (6’1, 225)

24 Stefan Smith – Freshman (6’1, 195)

26 James Toland IV – Freshman (5’11, 185)

31 Soma Vainuku – Junior (6’0, 270) – (FB)

37 Javorius ‘Buck’ Allen – Junior (6’1, 220)

38 Jahleel Pinner – Junior (5’11, 235) – (FB)

40 Pat Hart – Freshman (6’0, 240) – (FB)

47 Brett Sarem – Freshman (6’0, 225) – (FB)

Wide Receiver

1 Darreus Rogers – Sophomore (6’1, 21595)

7 Steven Mitchell – Freshman (5’10, 185)

8 George Farmer – Junior (6’1, 220)

9 JuJu Smith – Freshman (6’2, 210) – (+S)

14 Rahshead Johnson – Freshman (5’11, 175) – (+CB)

15 Nelson Agholor – Junior (6’1, 190)

18 Ajene Harris – Freshman (5’11, 180)

27 David Mellstrom – Junior (6’0, 180)

28 Christian Tober – Junior (5’8, 175)

44 Christian Guzman – Sophomore (6’3, 220)

83 George Katrib – Junior (6’0, 185)

84 Aaron Minor – Freshman (6’2, 200)

86 Robby Kolanz – Sophomore (5’10, 170)

Tight End

13 Bryce Dixon – Freshman (6’4, 240)

49 Conner Spears – Sophomore (6’6, 240)

82 Randall Telfer – Senior (6’4, 260)

87 Chris Willson – Senior (6’5, 250)

88 Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick – Junior (6’4, 250)

Offensive Lineman

50 Toa Lobendahn – OG-OT – Freshman (6’3, 280)

51 Damien Mama – OG – Freshman (6’5, 370)

56 Jordan Austin – OT – Freshman (6’5, 280)

60 Viane Talamaivao – C-OG – Freshman (6’3, 330)

62 Khaliel Rodgers – OG – Freshman (6’3, 315)

63 Giovanni Di Poalo – C – Senior (6’4, 280)

64 Richie Wenzel – C – Freshman (6’2, 280)

65 Erick Jepsen – OG – Junior (6’2, 295)

67 Quinn Bassler – OT – Freshman (6’6, 280)

68 Jordan Simmons – OG – Sophomore (6’4, 350)

70 Aundrey Walker – OG – Senior (6’6, 315)

72 Chad Wheeler – OT – Sophomore (6’7, 280)

73 Zach Banner – OT – Sophomore (6’9, 350)

74 Nico Falah – OT – Freshman (6’4, 285)

75 Max Tuerk – OT-OG-C – Junior (6’6, 285)

76 Nathan Guertler – OT- Senior (6’5, 270)

77 Chris Brown – OT – Freshman (6’5, 295)

Defensive Tackle

52 Delvon Simmons – Junior (6’5, 295)

90 Claude Pelon – Junior (6’4, 295)

95 Kenny Bigelow – Freshman (6’3, 310)

96 Joey Augello – Junior (6’0, 290)

98 Cody Temple – Junior (6’2, 310)

99 Antwaun Woods – Junior (6’1, 325)

Defensive End

79 Jeff Miller – Sophomore (6’1, 245)

91 Teddy Baker – Senior (6’4, 265) – (+TE)

93 Greg Townsend Jr. – Junior (6’3, 275)

94 Leonard Williams – Junior (6’5, 300)

97 Christian Bradley – Junior (6’2, 210)

Linebacker

10 Hayes Pullard – ILB – Senior (6’1, 235)

18 Quinton Powell – OLB – Sophomore (6’2, 200)

19 Michael Hutchings – ILB – Sophomore (6’1, 210)

34 Olajuwon Tucker – ILB – Freshman (6’3, 220)

40 Jabari Ruffin – OLB – Sophomore (6’3, 240)

42 Uchenna Nwosu – OLB-ILB – Freshman (6’3, 210)

44 Malik Dorton – OLB – Freshman (6’2, 250)

45 Charles Burks – OLB – Junior (5’11, 225)

47 Scott “Starr” Felix – OLB – Sophomore (6’2, 230)

49 Matt Miller – ILB – Freshman (6’1, 225)

50 Grant Moore – ILB – Freshman (6’1, 220)

51 Joel Foy – ILB – Freshman (6’2, 215)

53 Alex Moore – ILB – Freshman (6’2, 220)

54 Reuben Peters – ILB – Freshman (6’1, 220)

55 Lamar Dawson – ILB – Senior (6’1, 230)

56 Anthony Sarao – ILB – Junior (6’0, 220)

57 Nick Schlossberg – ILB – Sophomore (6’0, 215)

58 J.R. Tavai – OLB – Senior (6’2, 250)

59 Don Hill – OLB – Freshman (6’3, 245)

Cornerback

2 Adoree’ Jackson – Freshman (5’11, 185) – (+WR)

4 Chris Hawkins – Freshman (5’11, 185)

6 Josh Shaw – Senior (6’1, 200) – (+S)

13 Kevon Seymour – Junior (6’0, 185)

17 Devian Shelton – Sophomore (6’1, 180)

23 Jonathan Lockett – Freshman (5’11, 175)

25 Lamont Simmons – Freshman (6’2, 185)

28 Ryan Dillard – Junior (5’9, 185)

29 Kevin Carrasco – Sophomore (6’0, 185)

38 Jalen Jones – Freshman (5’8, 155)

Safety

21 Su’a Cravens – Sophomore (6’1, 225)

22 Leon McQuay III – Sophomore (6’1, 185)

24 John Plattenburg – Freshman (5’11, 180) – (+CB)

26 Davonte Nunnery – Freshman (5’11, 210)

27 Gerald Bowman – Senior (6’0, 205)

36 Joe Harding – Freshman (5’10, 180)

37 Matt Lopes – Freshman (5’11, 180)

41 Rob Dooley – Sophomore (6’1, 195)

Placekicker

39 Alex Wood – Sophomore (5’10, 175)

39 Matt Boermeester – Sophomore (6’0, 185)

46 Wyatt Schmidt – Freshman (6’3, 205) – (+P)

46 Reid Budrovich – Freshman (6’0, 180)

48 Andre Heidari – Senior (5’11, 220)

Punter

35 Kris Albarado – Junior (5’10, 200)

48 Jack Basalari – Freshman (5’11, 175)

Tebow_Obama

All or any of you Sunshine Pumpers care to explain where NCAA sanctions hindered this 2014 USC Trojans football roster?

Trojans 6942

Well first of all CNN. It was the 2013 roster and it was the Las Vegas bowl. But just like CNN you move truths to get your agenda past those who are delusional like you. I hope I spelled it correctly for ya.

Trojan5

Hope SW is right. If all of these guys signed it will be an impressive class. And if CH can turn them into a winning team great. If not , the next HC will have a fully stocked roster. CH may not deliver a NC, but he has definitely help lead the program out of the weeds.

Tebow_Obama

” CH may not deliver a NC, but he has definitely help lead the program out of the weeds.”

What weeds? USC has had a top 15, mostly top 10 recruiting class every year since 2002.

So what weeds are you referring to?

You’re clueless too.

steveg

Anyone else seen Kaled Holmes phone app called Talegate? New, and supposed to have stuff from players and fans. It is a phone app. I got it on play store. I guess apple has it too.

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