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A "furious" Rep. Peter King, the hawkish, maverick Long Island Republican, blasted a "disgraceful" Eric Holder for opening an investigation of CIA interrogators and chided his own party for what he described as a weak response to the move in an interview just now with POLITICO.

"It’s bulls***. It’s disgraceful. You wonder which side they’re on," he said of the attorney general's move, which he described as a "declaration of war against the CIA, and against common sense."

"It’s a total breach of faith, and either the president is intentionally caving to the left wing of his party or he’s lost control of his administration," said King, the ranking Republican on the House Committee on Homeland Security and a member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence.

King, channeling both the sense of outrage and of political opportunity felt in parts of the GOP, defended in detail the interrogation practices — threats to kill a detainee's family, and or to kill a detainee with a power drill — detailed in a CIA inspector general report released yesterday.

"You're talking about threatening to kill a guy, threatening to attack his family, threatening to use an electric drill on him — but never doing it," King said. "You have that on the one hand — and on the other you have the [interrogator's] attempt to prevent thousands of Americans from being killed."

"When Holder was talking about being 'shocked' [before the report's release], I thought they were going to have cutting guys' fingers off or something — or that they actually used the power drill," he said.

Pressed on whether interrogators had actually broken the law, King said he didn't think the Geneva Convention "applies to terrorists," and that the line between permitted and outlawed interrogation policies in the Bush years was "a distinction without a difference."

"Why is it OK to waterboard someone, which causes physical pain, but not threaten someone and not cause pain?" he asked, warning of a "chilling" effect on future CIA behavior.

"You will have thousands of lives that will be lost, and the blood will be on Eric Holder's hands," he said.

King faulted his own party leaders for an insufficient response to yesterday's announcement.

"They’ve declared war on the CIA. We should resist and fight back as hard as we can," he said. "It should be a scorched earth policy. ... This isn't just another policy. This goes to the heart of our national defense. We should do whatever we have to do."

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On 9/11/73 under president nixon, CIA backed coup in Chile headed by General Augusto Pinochet topples the democratically elected President Salvador Allende. Pinochet remained in power for almost 17 years.

This is embarrassing. The President says one thing, AG says another, both are against the will of the People...you have to ask yourself, who are these people loyal to if they willingly disgrace the U.S. at every turn?

Yeah, we should be trying to build the self-esteem of our detainees. They are really wonderful people who are misunderstood. Just terrorists trying to make a living. The fact that they may have killed our soldiers and many other innocent people is irrelevant. We shouldn't threaten them or speak unkindly. Yea for Barack Obama and Eric Holder! You sick people who believe this will be the ruin of this country.

Holder pardoned Marc Rich (tax evasion) and FALN terrorists (radicals). They could work in the Obama administration.
National Security is the only action that is unforgivable for Obama. Keeping us safe is a crime?
Rewind Jimmy Carter. No National Security, Hyper-Inflation.
They have wasted $1 TRILLION on bailouts and stimulus which hasn't worked. He promised 7% unemployment if we did the bailout, 8% if we didn't. Now, they predict over 10% and we did the bailout. They are incompetent.
God help us if we let this corrupt administration get ahold of our health care.
Please, oh please, give us another reassuring speech, that is all you are good at.

Perhaps when the CIA has been emasculated, then they World will love us and respect us even more. Kum-by-ah.
Get a life folks and when the Democrats are seeming to declare war on fellow Americans we can all rest safer knowing that we have nobady defending our country because the Democrats are around. What is next? All soldiers who have killed someone in combat will be investigated for murder. Jeez what an administration we have! Can't wait for 2012

Our military pilots and other personnel routinely undergo waterboarding as part of their training. Liberals are so far removed from the real world and what it takes to keep this nation free from terrorists hell bent to destroy us. Political correctness is going to kill us all. Say what you want about Dick Cheney, but he's right. They kept this nation free from terrorist attacks from 9-11 forward. The Obama Administration and Eric Holder are sending us back to the Jimmy Carter days. Lord, save us all.

The two previous comments are just moronic and extremely disappointing. These terrorist want to cut your heads off and your worried about their civil rights, and think its wrong to scare them into telling us vital information. You people need to wake the F up. Who cares about the civil rights of terrorists...not me, not the majority of this country. The only good thing Obama is doing is destroying the democrat party and he will insure the 2010 elections are a landslide for the GOP! Thank GOD FOR THE GOP!!!!!!

So the CIA are the 'bad guys' huh? What about those poor INNOCENT people who had their heads cut off while still alive????
These *******s DO NOT CARE ABOUT US. And if a threat of hurting someone like that saves lives, which I'm betting it has, then so be it.

Why is it so hard for people to remember who these people are, what they did and what groups they are a part of. They are people that have one thing in mind and that is to kill Americans. The World Trade Center oh how so many people have forgotten :(

Let's see here..if you're a murdering terrorist scum...who helped has killed innocent Americans...quite frankly..you don't have any "rights" in my book.
The only thing that terrorists like Khalid Sheik Muhammad and the like understand is the message that's sent with the barrel of a gun..
This isn't CSI:Miami people..this is real life...

Are some of you people serious? These people are terrorists! They want to kill you and your children! They don't care if your a civilian or which party your affiliated with! How dare you attack and try to open an investigation on the tactics of the CIA. They saved AMERICAN lives by using their practices, they helped protect us, and you! They should have used the drill on this scum terrorist! You think this terrorist gives a sh*t about you people??!!!! Wake up losers! Maybe the people who want the CIA to be investigated should be shipped over seas as ambassadors so you can get a first hand experience of dealing with terrorist nations!

Too many of you have never been involved in a war or had your parents serve this country. What is wrong with you....This Administration is Frightning.. How quickly we forget..Really Whos side are you on???????

This goes back to the old but still valid argument; If your wife and kids lives were in danger and you had someone you believed had information that could save them, what are you willing to do? As for me I would not only threaten, I would act. Have we as a country become so emmasculated that we won't do what it takes to protect our own? To me that is part of the measure of a man and how much he loves and cares for those entrusted to his care.

King could not have put it better. THis will weaken the CIA, threaten our ability to extract information and provide hesitation to our allies who provide us with interregotation with fear of Holder reprisals. In turn, this weakens our ability to fight in Afganistan and elsehwere by limiting our intellgene gathering ability. This puts our troops in harms way. The blood is on the hands of Holder, and by default, Obama.

Right on Pete. This naif in the WH, supported by Politico and other MSM leftist outlets, is the closest thing to a Quisling this nation has ever had. It is bad enough that he has put 9 trillion in debt on our kids. He has ruined free enterprise . He has stopped our energy production with Cap and Trade. He is giving amnesty to illegals. He is a socialist radical pacifist who has made this nation unsafe. He releases jihadists from Gitmo but prosecutes the CIA. This guy is a disaster and he is being one on purpose. You bet I pray he fails.

Obama is on the Republican sisde, of course, despite what you might hear on Fox "News". There's not all that much difference between Obama's foreign policy and that of Bush-Cenhey, despite all the smoke and mirrors. I seriously doubt that Obama cares about torture, and I have never believed he wanted to investigate or prosecute the intelligence agencies. He's probably too timid to even try that. naturally, some of teh Right-wing Republicans really hate him, but they also hate Powell and McCain.

Wow lib's just have a very hard time facing the fact that those they support would end up getting them killed if they had their way. I for one would like to let you have your way but I don't want to see decent great americans getting hurt to to give you your defeat from the jaws of victory!! With all of the people hurting in this country this administration is still living in the past the past that had code pink loones running around the streets in hysterics. This is not a serious group that occupy our house. Barry has made it clear what side he is on any side but ours. Mr. Apologetic needs to grow up and get serious!

I have no criticism of Eric Holder. The AG serves at the pleasure of the President. He cannot get coffee without the President's approval. Make no mistake, this investigation can only occur AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PRESIDENT. Obama is the one behind this. He said there would be no investigations. It was an bold face lie, which he knew all along. At least when Clinton needed a distraction he did not bomb his own troops.

PM and Mike Ross both exmplify the ingorance of the left on this matter. One of the key arguments of the left is that with our CIA treating our prisoners this way it will only increase the potential harm to US and allied captive soldiers. GEE, i can't imagine how much more harm you can inflict on one of our soldiers after you cut his head off with a sword and film it for all to see. hey PM and Mike Ross, grow up. As for the Valerie Plame situation, she never saw a washingtom cocktail party or a camera that she didn't run towards.

So threatening harm (and never following through) is equal to sawing through a screaming victim's neck and posting the film on the internet? Ask John McCain if getting yelled at or threatened (hey! That happened to me at Parris Island! I must have been tortured!!! Where's the ACLU?!?!?) is the same as being hung by his elbows tied behind his back. Where is the hole in the kneecap of any of the Muslim terrorists we captured? Get out of your comfy chair and into the 3rd world and see how far your, "Oooh! Don't touch him!" attitude will get ya. You'll find yourself looking back at your headless body as some bearded whacko holds your head up and shouts "Allah Ahkbar!"

CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies. A party which Peter King is a member and supporter of.
Egad...you still believe that...she was NOT a covert agent.
Tell us next how Bush piloted and then safely parachuted from a plane before it struck on 9/11.

Obama is change we can believe. Oh really! Obama is loosing the health care debate so he changes the conversation to terrorism by the CIA. Obama is making Carter look smart and strong. One term BO. This is really starting to smell.

Posted By: angry voter that agrees with King | August 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I don't wonder which side their on and you should'nt either. The democrat party has been hijacked and turned into a leftist radical socialist movement spearheaded by the community organizer and supported by the wicked witch of the west. We must stop their socialist agenda of cap & trade and government run health care and then use the power of the poles to send these non americans out of elected office.

Since the democrats have opened the door on prosecuting policy differences, they will rue this decision. You can bet that when the republicans come to power that they will not hesitate to prosecute the abuses of power we have all become numb towards.

The damage is done, merely with the original consideration of such an embecilic act of "investigation" and its announcement. Now the fat is in the fire. No one will be foolish enough to do their patriotic duty for this moronic democrat administration or future ones of any stripe!

King is dead on. And the administration is doing this to throw some red meat to the left (well, some soy-marinated tofu, anyway) to buck them up since they're getting so hammered on health care. You can tell the Dems are panicking; that's why they're playing the race card with such abandon. They know they can't win the Obamacare issue on its merits.

Holder's assault on the CIA, when he looked the other way when the New Black Panthers were supressing the right to vote, proves he is a clown. Obama either doesn't have the balls to control him or is lying to us when he says he wants to look forward. Either way, this shows Obama is a ***** and our enemies know it.

Just another smoke screen to blunt the street pimp's free fall. Why isn't the Justice Dept. investigating all these radical and commie czars who have the real power in this admin. Glenn Beck is right and the libs want to shut him up. THIS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS BUNCH OF PEOPLE THATS EVER BEEN IN CHARGE. God help us.

Finally someone speaking out in defense of our country rather than defending thugs, murderers, and terrorists. Why are we allowing them to surrender on the battlefield?? Kill them !! But read them their rights first, of course.

To the insipid twits arguing against R-King....let the Taliban behead your family and friends and then let's hear your pathetic whine.....your just another example that the the US got to rich to quick and a generation of alienated spoiled brats emerged to poison our country..i.e. boomers.Unfortunately the rest of us will have to pay the price....

Obama and his Clan are ruining this country.
All you morons who are citing long ago history regarding the CIA, are imbisiles. We were attacked and americans were killed. I hope you all have family at the next ground Zero then I want you to praise Obama and his lackies.

The Obama adminstration's continuing war on fellow American's is absolutely breathtaking.
Obama's constant lying,
staggering arrogance, dangerous narcissism and astounding incompetence is on a course to destroy this nation.
Obama wants to put as much of the private economy under government control as possible to create his nanny state utopia where he is the boy king.
Let's continue to stand strong against Obama in every way and get Congress out of the hands of Pelosi and Reid in 2010.
Obama is a smug, smirking con man. Nothing more.

If the situation were reversed, and these were US Servicemen held by AlQueda, what do you think the outcome would be?
Don't you find it odd that Mr. Holders Law Firm defended AlQueda suspects pro bono?
And you wonder why we ask what side you are really on?

They're on the side that kills Americans. And more and more Americans are realizing it. Two more elections should put us firmly back in control. Then we get to do the investigating. That's gonna be tons of fun.

Obama and the dems have so wee weed up the health care reform that they needed a distraction. A vacation for Potus and THIS travesty is the distraction.
The end result may some day be a major american sea port or city turned to glass as the intelligence agencies are reduced to virtually nothing in capabilities.

In retrospect, it's starting to look like Senator McCarthy in the 50's was on to something. The ultra left socialists, liberals, media, academia, hollywood types and communist leaning leftists are trying to silently overtake this country. If Holder and Obama's actions don't make this vividly clear, nothing will. It will take a concerted effort to root out the communists in our midst and educate our country on what democracy and capitalism really are. A history lesson on our Founding Fathers should be mandatory for every man, woman and child in this country.

I ususlly vote, I never give my money to political parties, I am well educated and quite happy with my life. However, Washington has my attention and I am not amused with people making decisions based on political advantage vs. what is good for America. I do not need them to decide on my health care, and I certainly do not support politically motivated "witch hunts" I am over it, I will vote and contribute as much money as I can and encourage my family and friends to do likewise. I am over it. These ideologs must go.

Why should any of us be surprised ? Obama has surrounded himself with people who have a LONG record of anti American activity. If we are attacked again, and I think we will be, watch how QUICKLY the Obama administration declares a National Emergency and Martial Law. MARK MY WORDS.. if we are attacked again, Obama WILL do this.. "never let a good emergency go to waste"

Here are the Dems, once again, trying to destroy our intelligence agencies, our military, and our security, just like they did before 9/11. Then they sit in judgement of the CIA and Military when we are attacked and call for investigations of what went wrong. Liberal politicians are what went wrong! Do these idiots think that we are ignorant of history or that we have forgotten their past legislation to curtail our ability to protect ourselves? What planet do these people live on? And what is worse? The media giving them a pass instead of bringing the bright light of truth to bear upon those traitors who sell out the own people for political ideals, long discredited by failed governments of the past.
Folks, if you enjoy your freedoms, don't let Libs drive drunk on power!

King is correct and most of us all felt that way September 12.
Conservatism is not sick. The great American experiment and Constitution is not sick.
Willful ignorance of the epic failure and millions of deaths concerning past socialist experiments on this planet...that is sick and applies to most of the posters here.

Plame was outed by Richard Armitage, a career bozo in the state dept. Plame got her husband hired to do a job he had no idea how to do which would be nepotism if I did it but that would be me. Career lawyers have all ready reviewed these cases with the same documents and discharged these. This is the snow ball trick to distract people into looking at this rather than what the real bozo's are doing. Just have to keep your eye on the ball, much like Monica & bombings. As I recall I was & the rest of the country was doing much better when W was the President than we are after the DemoDopes took over in 06 and since the Big Stink B)-ama took office.

Ok. Liberals, can we take a deep breath here and make comments without emotion, even though King was emotional?
First, investigating CIA agents after prmising not to (this is what Obama said, not me) is insane. Just as insane as torture. Threatening to drill someone and not actually doing it is not torture. I'm pretty sure I actually did that to my little brothers when I was young. Maybe I am sick.
Secondly, and I struggle with the lack of thought process here: Plame was not a covert agent. Regardless, Richard Armitage, a Powell loyalist who has spoken very harshly of Bush and Rumsfeld, is the one who accidently leaked the Plame information. Also, Plame "outed" herself during a makeout session with her then-boyfriend, now husband Joe years back. Joe actually wrote about this.

"Perhaps, if Mr King was lead to believe though rendition, then mock execution of a fellow prisoner, then behind denied sleep for a week and had a running power drill revved in his face and his children threatened with murder he would re-consider his statements."
Thanks Mike Ross, you just laid out Army Sere Training. You should give it a try, you might be as wimpy as the terrorists.

Mike, King might sound "heartless" as you describe, but you are without a mind. Do you even have a clue who these terrorists were? Do you think any of us that do have a brain give a darn about them or their families?
How are Americans like you created in a great country like this. You are a disgrace.

Boehner didn't always defend CIA
House Democrats were none too amused when John Boehner went after Nancy Pelosi for saying the CIA misled her during a 2002 briefing on enhanced interrogations.
Boehner defended the agency?s record and said it was "hard" for him to imagine "anyone in our intelligence area would ever mislead a member of Congress."
No sooner had the words come out of the Republican leader's mouth than Democratic staffers were passing around Boehner quotes in which Boehner --you guessed it -- questioned the effectiveness of U.S. intel agencies.
On Dec. 9, 2007, CNN's Wolf Blitzer asked Boehner: "Are you suggesting, as I think you are, that you don't necessarily have confidence in this new NIE National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq?"
Boehner: "Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today."
Nine months earlier, on NBC's "Meet the Press," Boehner said: "It's clear to all of us, Democrats and Republicans, that we have flawed intelligence. The CIA had bad intelligence, the Pentagon had bad intelligence and, for that matter, all of our allies around the world had the same bad intelligence."

All of you holier-than-thou liberals have no clue what you are talking about. Why don't you get it?? Radical islamists will never like us no matter what we do, how much we apologize, how much money or gifts we give them...they hate us because of who we are, NOT because of what we do.

We are in a war which we as a nation did not ask for. I am not just talking about Iraq, and Afghanistan, which are front's in the broader war on terrorism. To tie the hands of those who are trying to protect this nation is ludicrous especially when the other side fights with no rules. A humane war simply does not exist and is a ridiculous as well as a dangerous concept. The implied threat of torture and actual torture is two different things, in any war then, according to our attorney general, anytime a soldier threatens the enemy to get information to protect the lives of his men that soldier is guilty of torture. If it comes down to saving the lives of my loved one's or the life of a terroist guess which path most of us would choose.

If a terrorist attack happened today, it would be Obama's fault. But somehow 9/11 happening wasn't Bush's fault. I find that logic hilarious. The greatest attack on American soil and no one in charge to take responsiblity for it. Don't talk to me about treason. Both democrats and republicans would sell their country out for their party. You both sicken me.

Yo, Rep. King: this is a nation of laws, not men. The President has not "lost control" of his administration. AG Holder is beholden (no pun) to the law, not the President. I know it's easy to get confused about that from the perversions at Justice over the past eight years, but, despite President Obama having stated he DOESN'T want an investigation, Holder has no choice. The facts are too damning.

King is absolutely correct, we do wonder which side BHO and his administration is on. They are clearly not on the side that wants to protect America from terrorists. thay appear to be in the terrorists side.

CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies. A party which Peter King is a member and supporter of.
She was outed by Robert Novak and she was not a in covert operations. Does desk Jockey come to mind

"Perhaps, if Mr King was lead to believe though rendition, then mock execution of a fellow prisoner, then behind denied sleep for a week and had a running power drill revved in his face and his children threatened with murder he would re-consider his statements."
Mike Ross, you are a complete idiot. Go back to your hole. Maybe if instead of doing these things, and your family was killed by these maniacs you would reconsider your statements. Who's side are YOU on you blithering idiot?!

Oh my God! Someone ran a power drill in front of someone's face! Oh no, they threatened his kids! First, let us say we only have the report to go by. There is no other side of the story presented, so it is difficult to know what really happened.
Second, it turns out the baloney issued by the left that the enhanced interrogation methods produced no information and that former FBI guy who supports the left saying this kind of interrogation never produces anything useful was all total baloney. The left really has no credibility left on this subject.
Third, the left operates by one principle: if it is against the US, we're all for it. If it supports the US, we're against it. For example, dictators who are anti-US are closely supported and cheered. LIke Hugo. Dictators who are pro-US are savagely rebuked. Policies that might be effective against terrorists are pounded. Policies and tactics which are likely to be ineffective against terrorism are closely supported. Rebel groups which oppose the US are lionized--like Hamas, Che, the FLN. Rebel groups that support the US are despised, like the Contras.
It is so obvious, yet, they try to hide it well, and few have put the pieces together to complete the puzzle.

Arlen Specter joined Barry Goldwater-R, Newt Gingrich-R in 2007, Rep John Boehner-R on CNN Dec. 9, 2007 {Boehner: "Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today."} , Rep Pete Hoekstra-R, Sen. Pat Roberts-R in 2006, and Nancy Pelosi-D in saying that the CIA and NIE has misled or have been dishonest.

Obama has to let Holder do his thing. Holder's main job is to keep the loonies in place.The fringe left is barking and salivating; they want Obama to throw them a bone to chew on. Obama does not want these goofy freaks chewing on his leg and they are on the verge of doing just that. Poor Obama better have a large bag of bones because his fringies, which he would love to jettison, are on the warpath. This will amount to nothing. Not to worry. Down! Down dog! Down I say!

Everybody in DC knew that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA The CIA employees/interrogators should get medals for their efforts and recieve a bonus for each finger they cut off and every broken bone and for each family member (also their dogs which in some cases could be their wives) of a terrorists that is killed the CIA interrogators should get a a gas hog H2 hummer so we can **** off all you liberal environmental nut jobs

As others point out these people killed 3,000+ Americans. One (KSM) cut the head off of Daniel Pearl. Imagine the fright of these innocent people that actually died.
These people are terrorists and attacks were prevented because of these way they were questioned.
Goodbye to being on defense under Obama's administration. If an attack happens he'll go to his old stand by and blame it on Bush.

Dear Mike Ross,
It sounds like you'd prefer to watch American children getting their heads cut off on T.V. At what point are we allowed to protect our own people from irrational lunatics? These are the same people that throw acid in the faces of young girls for the crime of wanting to go to school. At what point will the radical left allow the American people to protect ourselves from religious fascism? Perhaps you should join your brothers in the Middle East.

Are you people on dope???
Eric Holder is doing this purely for political reasons ... to get news off of the universal coverage bill! Wag the dog, ala Clinton.
Peter King my be wrong on somethings, but even a broke clock is right twice a day. Maybe it's how I grew up but I know the world is not one giant nerf ball where all people are nice and will admit to doing wrong and cooperate when they are caught.
What is wrong with you people? These guys DO NOT want to give critical information. Just because YOU may cave to your child who constantly asks for a cookie 50 times after you've said "no" 49 times; doesn't mean that these sicko's will do the same thing.
"Tell me, where are the bombs?" "No". "Please?" "No". "Pretty please?" "No" "...with a cherry on top?" "No".
"Well, I guess we will never know until something blows up."
I mean, really? Has America been infiltrate by a bunch of candy-ass pansies?
First it was about "so-called torture". Now, it's about "threats of torture". These light-in-the-loafer chumps are gonna get us killed!
Just call me Mr. Hand because I am convinced that liberals are all on dope.

Which side are they on? The anti-Americans' side of course. I hope they keep it up though; keep showing their true anti-American colors. They'd both be spitting on graves over in Arlington if they thought they could get away with it.

This admin. is not protecting
our constitution.
There will be Hell to pay down the road.
Obama can stop all this if he wanted too.
Who is in CHARGE?
Kick all of them out next time.
If we have anything left.

You do not have to be hawkish to be outraged over the Obama administration going after our nation?s heroes. The only people who are pleased about this are the lunatic, kook fringe of his base. The rest of the people are grateful that everything possible is being done to keep us safe and prevent another 911 attack. Obviously, thanks to Obama, we are now in a position that threatens our national security and only emboldens the terrorists all the more. Obama has always said if the political winds shift in an ugly direction he will come down on the side of the Muslims. I guess he meant the Muslim terrorists. What a sad day for America when we are giving more rights to those trying to kill us, then those protecting us. These terrorists do not want to make nice, they will not make nice, no matter how you treat them. They want to cut your friggin head off and crap down your neck. The only way to deal with the terrorists is to kill them first before they kill you. They need to be sent a message, mess with us and you die. Not sent a flowery invitation with a message that paints a target on on back.

Like 98% of the people who are tortured, waterboarded, threatened, etc. are completely innocent and have no information to offer.
Torturing 'suspected terrorists', most of whom are completely innocent, is counterproductive. It breeds more hate and strengthens the recruiting arms of Al Qaeda and other extremist organizations.
Not to mention, IT IS ILLEGAL AND HAS BEEN ILLEGAL, and takes away what seperates us from them.
None of you ignorant hatemongers have any idea what you're talking about. Please go to college or something. Or maybe just stfu.

If you don't like being waterboarded or your family threatened, well, here's a novel idea: get the eff out of the terrorism business. Good grief, my female puppy has bigger balls than Obama. Nicely put Peter King.

See what PC gets you!! We're gonna get hit and hit hard by these Cats and these looney haters on the left will rejoice right along with the nuts in the Mideast, Keith Oberdork will probably lead the cheering section!!

Here's an idea. Post the names and addresses of the top people at the ACLU so the terrorists can track them down and show them first hand what happens when you let your guard down. These people cannot be rationalized with so quit trying to treat everyone equally! What a bunch of freakin morons!

THIS WHOLE ADMINISTRATION IS "ANTI-AMERICAN"! I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO 'BREAK' THIS COUNTRY COMPLETELY SO THEY CAN TAKE OVER. SOCIALISM/COMMUNISUM IS COMING WITH THIS 'BUNCH'....WHICH INCLUDES MEMBERS OF CONGRESS!
HELLO COMMRADE!

If your read history and Obama just loves Lincoln when it suits him.............. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus throughout the nation in 1861.........People forget that in a time of war the Federal Governments "FIRST" duty is to defend and protect the nation...........When things are not going your way in Washington they drag out something else to "divert" the public attention....... They want you to "stop thinking/talking about the health care bill" so now they trot this out again........ Beware of a government that plays the shell game........ Beware of the media that plays along with them........ Beware of Nancy Pelosi when she can't get her way...... Beware of another attack on US soil because they lack judgment to have "ethics" in their own house....Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and the Black Panthers or even ACORN..... Were the 3,000 people terrified on 9/11?....... Were the people in those planes terrified for hours?..... Are the family's terrified to this day going into a tall building?.........If Holders family was in danger would he stand by and do nothing?

I,ve sent info to the FBI 3 times on their email crime reporting system that Obama killed a woman in my town in 1999.. not a call to ask me a question... the local police almost carried me out of their office by brute force... double standard? ya think?

It appears we have a lot of bleeding heart liberals in our midst. Those poor, poor terrorist - the ones who would just as soon lop off your childs head as look at them. My oh my, what they must have had to endure. GIVE ME A BREAK! What a bunch of unpatriotic pantywastes! It's a shame that brave men and women in this country have fought & died to protect the likes of you. You don't have to say it - I can easily tell which side YOU'RE on.

It makes absolutely no sense for it to be OK to blow up, shoot, drop napalm on, and fire hellfire and cruise missles at terrorists but not to be able to yell at them, lie to them or make them feel bad. This is absurd. More importantly the fact that the Obama administration, losing popularity by the minute, has decided to gin up liberal support by criminal prosecution of the prior administration over policy differences is really playing with fire. This sort of extension of state power to political intimidation destroyed the Athenian Democracy (Alcebiades), the Roman Republic, and one third world country after another. When the Republicans get back in power do they go after the Democrats for treasonous assumption of economic powers not granted in the constitution, for appointing unaccountable Czars, for granting government contracts to companies that "owe" them $2M. Holder is launching the first stage of what historians may look back at as the beginning of a process that led to civil war. Really really really dumb. And to do initiate this war in order to punish people who kept us safe with the effect of intimidating people who we need to keep us safe in the future guarantees Obama is accountable for any successful Islamoterrorist or other terrorist action against the US. Obama must be really desperate to do this.

Cncrndcitzen - This is reality, not reality TV. In reality peoplle fly planes into buildings, people cut the heads off reporters then post it on the web, people cut the fingers off those who vote. Scarring someone is hardly torture. Wishing something to be true dosen't make it so......

You bleeding hearts are amazing. Which knucklehead compared Cheney to Pol Pot? Good gravy!
Look, it's simple. Fanatics want to kill you in the nastiest of ways. The CIA tries to prevent those killings. Obama and Co. want to punish the CIA for preventing said killings.
If you support Obama and Co., may the Jihadis come to YOUR door first.

At what point do liberals who hate America finally look in the mirror and realize they are not normal? When do you liberals realize it is not a sane person who weeps for those who chop off the heads of their enemies? Let me put it as clearly as possible for the hippies (AKA liberals) who have so much weed in their system that their ears are ready to sprout buds - THESE SCUMBAG TERRORIST WANT TO SLIT THE THROATS OF YOUR CHILDREN!! WAKE THE HELL UP. They don't care that you wear Birkenstocks, drive a Prius, cry tears of joy every time you see a picture of George Mcgovern, or that you shop at Whole Foods, they want you and your unemployed, drop-out friends dead. Dead, dead, dead. So cry me a river for the poor little terrorist who has their feelings hurt by empty threats. God bless the CIA. Like it or not hippies, you are alive because of their dedicated work.

It makes absolutely no sense for it to be OK to blow up, shoot, drop napalm on, and fire hellfire and cruise missles at terrorists but not to be able to yell at them, lie to them or make them feel bad. This is absurd. More importantly the fact that the Obama administration, losing popularity by the minute, has decided to gin up liberal support by criminal prosecution of the prior administration over policy differences is really playing with fire. This sort of extension of state power to political intimidation destroyed the Athenian Democracy (Alcebiades), the Roman Republic, and one third world country after another. When the Republicans get back in power do they go after the Democrats for treasonous assumption of economic powers not granted in the constitution, for appointing unaccountable Czars, for granting government contracts to companies that "owe" them $2M. Holder is launching the first stage of what historians may look back at as the beginning of a process that led to civil war. Really really really dumb. And to do initiate this war in order to punish people who kept us safe with the effect of intimidating people who we need to keep us safe in the future guarantees Obama is accountable for any successful Islamoterrorist or other terrorist action against the US. Obama must be really desperate to do this.

Many of us have NEVER wondered which side the demokrats are on. We know they don't support our military families. Astoundingly, the demokrats tried to exclude the votes from military members during the 2000 election.
None of us will forget that Osama Bin-Laden wanted Kerry to win, too.
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What everyone seems to forget:
1) We were attacked under George W Bush....he failed at his number 1 job as president, keeping the American people safe (9/11).
2) He failed in the so called "War on Terrorism." Eight years later, Obama is trying to salvage whats left in Afghanistan.
3) Obama, in his young presidency has kept America safe...so far

I have a feeling that this will just cause CIA agents to act like puppy dogs when interrogating terrorists from now on. They'll be scared of the Democratic Machine sending them to prison for trying to do their job (protect the American people). Obama's policies will lead to a weaker America. We will be attacked again.

Seriously, all of you obsessed with "the left does this" "well the right does that", you people are blind to how anti-american you really are. All the lefties salivating at the high casualties during Bush are same kinds of people salivating at the poor economy now. You get enjoyment out of our countries misery when you can pin it on the opposing team. When something good happens you find a way to crap all over it because it's not fulfilling your idealogical agenda. You only root for America when "your team" is in power. I'd ask you to take a long hard look at yourselves, but there's no self left to any of you. You sold your souls and identity to someones agenda a long time ago.
How similar people who call themselves "right-wing" and "left-wing" is almost cartoonish. How oblivious they are to these similarities is equally sad and funny.

Hmmmmm Didnt they investigate Bill Clinton over a $100,000 land deal in Arkansas? Didnt they say if he has nothing to hide then he wont mind the inquiry? As far as I am concerned....They will reap what they sow. Maybe the probe will exonerate them, but from the reaction I have a feeling they are GUILTY.

"CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies."
And the world is flat. Sorry, debunked. It was 'leaked' by Armitage. He is not a Bushie. Also, she wasn't 'covert' for over the time limit, so... she wasn't 'outed' - she wasn't undercover. No law broken. Period.
Go bark up another tree.

The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude. They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions. President Obama?s decision to allow the Justice Department to investigate and possibly prosecute CIA personnel, and his decision to remove authority for interrogation from the CIA to the White House, serves as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration?s ability to be responsible for our nation?s security.

The initial numbers are indelible: 8:46 a.m. and 9:02 a.m. Time the burning towers stood: 56 minutes and 102 minutes. Time they took to fall: 12 seconds. From there, they ripple out.
?Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819
?Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343
?Number of NYPD officers: 23
?Number of Port Authority police officers: 37
?Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60
?Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402
?Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614
?Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658
?Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22
?Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115
?Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1
?Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39
?Bodies found "intact": 289
?Body parts found: 19,858
?Number of families who got no remains: 1,717
?Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000
?Total units of donated blood actually used: 258
?Number of people who lost a spouse or partner in the attacks: 1,609
?Estimated number of children who lost a parent: 3,051
?Percentage of Americans who knew someone hurt or killed in the attacks: 20

Obama is change we can believe. Oh really! Obama is loosing the health care debate so he changes the conversation to terrorism by the CIA. Obama is making Carter look smart and strong. One term BO. This is really starting to smell.

Posted By: angry voter that agrees with King | August 25, 2009 at 01:11 PM

It's hard to believe the democrats love for terrorists. If a terrorist's family were killed to get info - I might be slightly concerned - Israel blows up the families houses after attacks. I would prefer prosecution of those who let the cat out of the bag on these interrogations, Abru-gab prison so called abuses, etc.

The side that says even VP's of the U.S. can't commit crimes and get away with it. Three or the last four Republican presidents are known criminal (Nixon - Watergate; Reagan- Iran-Contra; Bush II - Torture, illegal wiretapping, etc.). Perhaps if Ford wouln't have pardon Nixon then the other two Repubs. wouldn't have felt so free to commit crimes while in office. The Rule of Law has to start somewhere.

Unbelievable that the Democrats are putting party above country. They should be ashamed of themselves that they'd rather use National Security to pick at an OLD fight with W, than protect the people.
Terrorists don't just hate and kill members of the GOP, they hate and kill ALL Americans, and this includes the Looney Liberal Left!

King happens to be right. All of you socialists who voted for this idiot president are safe and free to say what you please because of agencies like the CIA.
Thank goodness Obama will be a one term president.
This is nothing but a ruse by Obama to takle the hehat off his already failed administration.
Besides, who really cares about the well being of terrorists anyway?

At what point do liberals who hate America finally look in the mirror and realize they are not normal? When do you liberals realize it is not a sane person who weeps for those who chop off the heads of their enemies? Let me put it as clearly as possible for the hippies (AKA liberals) who have so much weed in their system that their ears are ready to sprout buds - THESE SCUMBAG TERRORIST WANT TOO SLIT THE THROATS OF YOUR CHILDREN!! WAKE THE HELL UP. They don't care that you wear Birkenstocks, drive a Prius, cry tears of joy every time you see a picture of George Mcgovern, or that you shop at Whole Foods, they want you and your unemployed, drop-out friends dead. Dead, dead, dead. So cry me a river for the poor little terrorist who has their feelings hurt by empty threats. God bless the CIA. Like it or not hippies, you are alive because of their dedicated work.

We know what side they are on the socialist side and a strong lean to the commies.obuma is not a leader never will be he lets his lackeys take care of things then he can say I had nothing to do with it.BTY valerie was not a secret agent just a high paid secretary

So basically terrorist have made the right shat their pants so much that they are willing to give up the high ground. You guys act so tough, but what really is showing is you're a bunch of cowards. Also just so you blockheads know, 911 happened during bushes term.
It seems like republicans are the dumbest people in our country. yet are the loudest. sad!

The left is a disgrace, I do not get why anyone would vote for one. What a disgrace is right. Obama is a one termer with this garbage coming out of his administration and you lefties know it. Enjoy it while you got it.

Now, terrorists around the world will know if caught, just shut your mouth and the U.S. can't even threaten you let alone do anything to you. We may as well not bother interrogating anymore, it will be a complete waste of time.

So republicans would rather investigate Bill Clinton and his escapades than this?
So Rep. King, do you have blood on your hands for sending soldiers to die in a pointless war in Iraq? What freedom have we obtained from this war? Are we safer? Did we achieve 'victory'?

What?
"CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies. A party which Peter King is a member and supporter of."
What?
Valerie Plume was an office working, paper shuffling, employee of the government.
Any covert, "spy" was either non-existent or long past. Setting up parties does not count as spook-work!
You should get your facts straight!

The attorney general is turning a blind eye to documented voter intimidation against American voters by some in the Black Panther organization but is eager to prosecute defenders of our country. If Obama doesn't stop this kind of reasoning, he will become a one term Jimmy carter for sure.

Those that think that the tactics used were not proper should offer to negotiate with these terrorists. However, you need prepare yourselves so that when dealing with the terrorists you do not lose your head. My suggestion would be that you prepare by jumping from the upper floors of a skyscraper while on fire! I believe you may have forgotten what happened to innocent civilians on 9/11/01, and that the attack (and several others than were prevented by our tactics) was planned by many of these terrorists.

It is ********!!! It's bull that the CIA has used our money to screw up the world and hinder our safety. This is the same org that helped both Saddam and bin Laden when theny were our "friends," not to mention myriad other things they have screwed up. Abolish the whole damn thing. The CIA is ******** and it's screwed the American people time and time again. That's what happens when you get conflict-oriented individuals taking it upon themselves to decide what's "best" for us - they act in contravention of the constitution and are not even elected officials! Get the f- outta here with this s***!!! F- you King! Who's side their on?? Who's side are YOU on?? Obviously not the American peoples'. Just because an American institution does something does not make it right. The CIA is fundamentally un-American and was created specifically to covertly flout the Constitution....

Holder and Obama are soooo outraged that senior Al Quida leaders were treated badly. It does make you wonder which side they're on. Isn't it special that they seek to avenge the treatment of the mastermind of 9/11 and the guy who personally beheaded Daniel Pearl.
Obama was raised in Indonesia from age 5-11 so I think he would have empathy for Al Quida and not for the victims of 9/11.

"Ok. Liberals, can we take a deep breath here and make comments without emotion, even though King was emotional? First, investigating CIA agents after prmising not to (this is what Obama said, not me) is insane. Just as insane as torture. ...
Posted By: rustybear | August 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM "
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To paraphrase Rep. Frank, "on which planet do you spend most of your time?"
95% of the comments this morning are foaming-at-the-mouth, mouth-breathing neo-cons. Only a few libs, like me, are here; and all I'm hearing from my side is the simple question:
What part of domestic law and international treaties do you guys not understand?
Just who IS being emotional here, as even you acknowledge, prior to lambasting the 5% for the sins of the 95%?

I'll repeat it again. These are the same people that throw acid in the faces of young girls for the crime of wanting to go to school. At what point will the radical left allow the American people to protect ourselves from Islamic fascism?

I am amazed how effectively Cheney rationalized torture as the only way to protect American lives. He somehow tapped into the incredibly naive populous and their misguided notion of revenge as a means of satisfying 911's damage to the national psyche. Revenge as a motivation only serves the basest and lowest of our aspirations. Haven't we risen beyond these 11th century tactics. Are we no more civilized than those that seek to harm us. Also why do we not accept any responsibility for the way they feel about us? Our military has sown these seeds of hatred toward us all over the globe, by being constantly at war for the past 50 years. We are now just pawns of the Military Industrial Complex which Eisenhower warned us of so many years ago. So how does torture satisfy our lust for the blood of the enemies we have created by our foreign policies of the past 50 years?

That's exactly right Mike Ross. That's how it works. That's what the cia was trying to do, and that's what the cia did. Do you not understand that? I don't like the thought of torture, but this was needed, and it worked, and I think the cia under Bush's command did it with class and control. There were some who perverted their authority, but not in the case of torture for information.

King is a hero - and he's my Congressman thank God. You liberals are sick individuals if you think excoriating the CIA for keeping us safe is the right thing to do. What else can we expect from the looney left - show trials crucifying people who disagree with Socialism?

Holder a Clinton hold over and unqualified to be a dog catcher. This moron is on the side of the enemies of the USA, do to his racist atitude against the USA and our freedoms. everything this wortless human being does is fueled by his own rascism against white America! If I could he would be removed today. this is America not a communist Dictator state. Impeach Obama remove Holder and let the CIA take care of him, and don't let us know the outcome. He is an ati American bred to destroy the US Laws and destoy American freedoms. How many lives will cost by Holder. Just remember leaky Leahy the triator who leaked out with the help of the State onwned NYT about the intent of CIA's actions in El Salvador, which killed about 600 or more CIA agents. It's now leaky Holder, time to depends on his actions! Traitor also comes to mind!!

When terrorist killed Russian contractors in Iraq, word is they sent a covert team of Spetznaz (special forces) and killed the terrorist and their entired extended families. The terrorist never bothered the Russins there again. Perhaps a lesson here?

This King guy is a racist baffon, another ass kissing bush ***** who cares nothing about the constitution of this country but only of his own mega money political career, he is the joe biden of the GOP and I hope to God somebody runs against this load mouth wack job and gets him out of office. The GOP does not want the truth to come out because then they have look in the mirror to their complicity in the war crimes of bush, cheney and rove. King you are fat, white, scared old man who needs to resign and go shut up in a corner.

Obama and Holder want to give terrorists Miranda rights on the battlefield. The only Miranda rights they deserve are the Carmen Miranda rights. Put some fruit on their heads, and then shoot a few inches below it.

Recently, the leftists won an election by offering hope. The purveyors of this hope claim that it is compatible with abortion, infanticide and euthanasia. What kind of hope is dependent upon the elimination of children? And what is euthanasia but a declaration of despair? The world forces of wickedness have been hawking hope but have been sowing despair. And while the result of their labors is to destroy hope for time, they would deny there is any hope for eternity. We are bankrupt in every way, not only economically but also spiritually.
Barak Obama is no Bill Clinton. We are dealing now with a radical leftist ideologue, who prefers defeat to moderation. And we are foolish if we overlook the wickedness involved in this administration. Now, a former AFL-CIO president has been given the reigns of the New York Federal Reserve. No need to mention that legacy of corruption. And a Columbia University president is now deputy chairman of the New York Fed. Columbia has been the seedbed for much of sickness we call American public education. It was also the seedbed for the Cloward-Piven Strategy, which is now being implemented to its fullest extent.
There is no need to fear any further Al Qaida attacks. The Obama administration has been able to accomplish destruction of which Al-Qaida could only have dreamed. And the destruction will continue unabated for generations.

Isn't it amazing how commenters know that all of this is being done to "terrorists"? They must have some sort of psychic powers.
If somebody is being tortured for information, all it means is that the CIA thinks they know something. Do you think the CIA only tortured people they knew were 'bad'? Do you think they read a guy's file and went, "Well, he probably has an idea where Bin Laden is, but I see here that he's just a fervent nationalist who's never done anything wrong or conspired to hurt an American. Guess we can't threaten his family."
Republicans are so naive.

God forbid, on or after Sept. 11, 2009 if any terrorist attack happens on U.S. soil or against interests abroad it will be Obama's fault. It was a proven fact by the Left that it was Bush's fault that 9/11/2001 occurred 'on his watch', remember?

Combat, it ain't for everyone!
Time for the children to go home, and let the grown ups run things again!
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!

Yes! Go on Peter King, give it to the Republicans and Democrats with both barrels. Namby, pamby politics in the US are what got us here in this mess of still at war in Afganistan and a $9trillion deficit. Rome/USA is burning!

you people need to read the geneva convention befor you start peaching about it. get oone thing straight we won ww2 becuase we killed so called inocents we carpet bombed cities we broke the geneva convention both on and off the battlefield. after the war we lined up germans we thought were collabotrating with the rebels and we shot them no court no sympathy. war is ugly and the person who cangetthe ugliest wins. you lefties disgust me your not americans i dont know what you are but your not americans

"After his last stupid comments, the last of 2 Republican Representatives from that region, Peter King should shut his piehole. Go hangout with the other sick-headed people like Cheney, Pol Pot and the other despots."
Let's just start the civil war RIGHT NOW. *****!

We have just sent a clear message to the CIA that they should let terrorists off the hook or face prosecution. We have just sent a clear message to terrorists that they have nothing to fear from our interrogations. When the next terrorist attack occurs, Obama, Holder and all of you liberals who support them will have the blood of innocent civilians on your hands. The first WTC attack happened in 1993, followed by some embassy bombings, Somalia, the attack on the Cole, and eventually 3000 dead on 9/11. We had tied the hands of the CIA with the Torricelli Principle, and now it will be worse. May God have mercy on your souls.

That public person don.t take messages in his Congressional Site. A representative probaly can say things that nobody proves. He has very little responsibility. Yes he is from Long Island, a little bit shot from Maine. Or other way.
This man has no backbone!

"Ok. Liberals, can we take a deep breath here and make comments without emotion, even though King was emotional? First, investigating CIA agents after prmising not to (this is what Obama said, not me) is insane. Just as insane as torture. ...
Posted By: rustybear | August 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM "
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To paraphrase Rep. Frank, "on which planet do you spend most of your time?"
95% of the comments this morning are foaming-at-the-mouth, mouth-breathing neo-cons. Only a few libs, like me, are here; and all I'm hearing from my side is the simple question:
What part of domestic law and international treaties do you guys not understand?
Just who IS being emotional here, as even you acknowledge, prior to lambasting the 5% for the sins of the 95%?

3000 dead Americans and this president and his AG are worried about the treatment of these scum. This is a one term presidency but the American people will pay a high price for Obamas love affair with terrorists.

AMEN Mr King! We're not talking about waterboarding Boy Scouts and little old ladies. From their own mouths, these thugs are sworn to kill Americans. We sleep safely because of our military and CIA. Wake up you morons!

The next time we conservatives win election (and that will happen sooner or later), we're going to institute rules that make it legal to use extreme methods. And we're going to televise all the interrogations live on C-SPAN so there is no doubt that we're PROUD of what we're doing.
If the Europeans and American leftists don't like it, they can go pound sand. They're utterly useless anyway.

The initial numbers are indelible: 8:46 a.m. and 9:02 a.m. Time the burning towers stood: 56 minutes and 102 minutes. Time they took to fall: 12 seconds. From there, they ripple out. ?Total number killed in attacks (official figure as of 9/5/02): 2,819 ?Number of firefighters and paramedics killed: 343 ?Number of NYPD officers: 23 ?Number of Port Authority police officers: 37 ?Number of WTC companies that lost people: 60 ?Number of employees who died in Tower One: 1,402 ?Number of employees who died in Tower Two: 614 ?Number of employees lost at Cantor Fitzgerald: 658 ?Number of U.S. troops killed in Operation Enduring Freedom: 22 ?Number of nations whose citizens were killed in attacks: 115 ?Ratio of men to women who died: 3:1 ?Age of the greatest number who died: between 35 and 39 ?Bodies found "intact": 289 ?Body parts found: 19,858 ?Number of families who got no remains: 1,717 ?Estimated units of blood donated to the New York Blood Center: 36,000 ?Total units of donated blood actually used: 258 ?Number of people who lost a spouse or partner in the attacks: 1,609 ?Estimated number of children who lost a parent: 3,051 ?Percentage of Americans who knew someone hurt or killed in the attacks: 20
Posted By: jetset | August 25, 2009 at 01:11 PM
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Relevance any of the above has to Holder's pursuing probable cause re: CIA illegal torture: 0

yeah i mean the common sense thing. you have to wonder just how stupid obama and all around him are? i mean what is the matter with him/ He must work for iran or some real real bad people like that to want to bring down the CIA over doing what they are supposed to do, make terrorists answer.

Valerie Plame was outed by her moron husband, who was proven to have lied by the 9/11 Commission. Meanwhile 500 metric tons of yellowcake uranium were shipped from Iraq to Canada in July 2008.
www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/

Eric holder is a liberal and determined to destroy Bush and the CIA. Perhaps the CIA should recall all agents and sit on their collective hands. Then watch the attacks on this country. Obama will then have one more reason to apologize to the world for just being here.

Mr King has said many henious things over the years. He seems to believe that the US Law only applies to white US heterosexual church going citizens, and everyone else can go screw. I really hope he gets kicked out of office. I know I am not going to vote for him.

Listen people. You may try to deny anything you want, but here are some simple facts.
If we continue Obama's approach to economics we will run up the debt beyond our ability to survive. After the stimulus went through we now pay China alone, 800,000,000 dollars every week in interest.
We are on the verge of hyper-inflation because his policies have been to print more paper money to fund his policies and this devalues our currency, which means soon everything will become more expensive costing the middle class MORE of the their less-valuable dollars. The middle and lower classes will take the biggest fall.
For defense, we are returning to Clinton-era policies that terribly weakened the CIA's ability to get quality intel and work with the FBI. This will result in more attacks and American deaths both civilians and military.
Who will you blame for all of this? These are Obama's policies...enacted entirely by him and the Democratically controlled house and senate. Where will you mind take you, in an effort to find some other person, group, entity to blame? Or will you stare at the facts as they, and choose to logically deal with them....?

Mike Ross your a dope. They had a plan to blow up LA. What they did was more than acceptable. Plain and simple. If someone said that they planted a nuclear bomb in NYC and it was going to go off in 1 hour, would you ask nicely where it was. Or just keep asking nicely when they said "you'll see". The blood of thousans would be on your hands if thats all you did. Get your head out of the clounds and be happy we HAD an admisnistration with some common sense as opposed to this circus we have now.

Christ Himself said, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:14). When protecting one's family or neighbor, a Christian is unselfishly risking his or her life for the sake of others.
Theologians J. P. Moreland and Norman Geisler say that "to permit murder when one could have prevented it is morally wrong. To allow a rape when one could have hindered it is an evil. To watch an act of cruelty to children without trying to intervene is morally inexcusable. In brief, not resisting evil is an evil of omission, and an evil of omission can be just as evil as an evil of commission. Any man who refuses to protect his wife and children against a violent intruder fails them morally."

The Democrat Party is a disgrace to this great nation. Imagine JFK saying...."ASK NOT what your country can do for you .......But instead ASK what you can do for your country. The Democrats are the PARTY that's out touch with America.......NOT the GOP despite the fascist propaganda coming from our liberal MSM wolfpack press and their like-minded rich snob pals in Hollywood......It's all propaganda folks......aka LIES

"Who's side are they on"??
The side of a prime mentor of Barack Obama. The same mentor who is now continuing (through his protege) the battle he started in the 1960's. Instead of bombing from the outside its now dismantling from the inside.

Mr.O proclaims that the decision to investigate the CIA Interrogators is solely up to Attorney General Holder. That statement sounds to me like the Pres is getting set to throw Eric Holder under the bus, in case the investigation turns sour.
The Liberal left and their major media sycophants will no doubt welcome such an investigation, but there remains some fifty million voters who will see this move for the political vendetta that it is. Barack is simply positioning himself to have it both ways. A political ploy seen all to often in this Administration.

I personally wish we had a bunch of "Jack Bauers" from 24 to wring the info out of these terrorists. Now THAT is torture and it worked every time.
Screw the terrorists and their so called Geneva Convention rights.
Protect our damn country!

I would ask King why is it that our military leaders are against torture? If we can get the info we need without torture and not "grow" terrorists and further endanger our own troops, what it the problem. Torture doesnt't even work. Kink is a knee-jerk reactionary that probably doesn't have the intellectual curiosity to understand the facts before he spouts off.

Obama is gutting the CIA and returning the US to the Jamie Gorelich model in place before 9/11.
I support these efforts.
Terrorism kills almost exclusively urban liberals, so I'm fine with making terrorism more likely.

You only have to watch and listen to know which side they're on and that's very worrisome to me. Americans are finally waking up to what these Bozos (with apologies to clowns everywhere) are all about but it might be too late.

"CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies."
Valerie Plame was outed by her husband. And she was a desk jockey...the gravest danger she faced was getting a paper cut while filling out her TPS reports.

I thought the GOP'ers were the party of "the rule of law"?
I guess Cheney, Bush, Condi, were running a gang chain @ the CIA camps. I am hearing CIA operatives are pleased about these changes. The are glad to give away interigations to qualified staff.
BTW, remember how McCain feels about torture?

A captured terrorist? We must treat them like a guest at the Holiday Inn!
A few thousand Americans dead? Ah no big deal....
Anyone see the guy who blew up that Pan Am jet welcomed with kisses in Libya on the news? There's your horrible "rendition" right there.
When are some people going to wake up and realize what we are dealing with? I wish some of these New York media liberals would look out their window once in a while.

When we add all the pieces to the puzzle, we end up with a very negative picture that to me speaks volumes as to the current Obama administration's view of our country. The rich are evil, government must step in and own and control, the CIA needs to be investigated, etc. There is no doubt in my mind that all of us, including the CIA need to be monitored. But, when other independent agencies have already investigated CIA actions, why are we now opening up this discussion which will be politicized by the liberal left and perhaps by countries or peoples who are anti-American. Sorry, I just do not trus tthe Obama administration currently.

I would love to see the following occur: One of the "high-minded" has his wife and children taken hostage by a terrorist group who have stated that they will be killed tomorrow morning. This is a group that has previously taken hostages, threatened to kill them, and done so every time as threatened. He is called into the Oval Office and told by BHO that the FBI or CIA has in its custody one of the co-terrorists who is holding and will kill his family. The co-terrorist knows where the hostages are being held. Despite being asked kindly for the needed and likely life-saving information, the terrorist declines to offer the information.
BHO tells Mr. High-minded how sorry he is about these circumstances and how he "feels his pain", and how deeply he regrets being unable to do anything to get the needed information. And Mr. High-minded say: "................"?

A captured terrorist? We must treat them like a guest at the Holiday Inn!
A few thousand Americans dead? Ah no big deal....
Anyone see the guy who blew up that Pan Am jet welcomed with kisses in Libya on the news? There's your horrible "rendition" right there.
When are some people going to wake up and realize what we are dealing with? I wish some of these New York media liberals would look out their window once in a while.

I cannot believe the non-sense that the stupid stupid liberal
Obama A++ kissers put in their
statements. In the south we know
when we hear b.s. and you guys are
so full of it. Rep. King is right
and you guys are so wrong. I just hope that if we do have to have an
attack by terrorists, they have the
map for your neighborhood and not that of decent people who dont drink the Obama cool aide.

Rep King is absolutely right. This is an outrage, but it just isn't a war against the CIA, it is a war against the USA and common sense How stupid can the AG and President be to think that anything positive can happen by doing this. This is a call to all people in the US, not to vote for these far left liberal democrats, whether you are democrat, republican or independent. They are killing the US through our economy, mind body and soul. Fight this socialist regime at every step.

It is prettyobivious to me which side they are on. They hate America and all it stands for - anything to tear the country down is their motto and it is obvious that plenty of their terrorist loving pals post here..

When terrorist killed Russian contractors in Iraq, word is they sent a covert team of Spetznaz (special forces) and killed the terrorist and their entired extended families. The terrorist never bothered the Russins there again. Perhaps a lesson here?
Posted By: Scott | August 25, 2009 at 01:21 PM
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This story is entirely apocryphal, but even accepting it for the sake of argument, you don't really want to hold up the Ruskies as paragons of rectitude and virtue, do you?
Read your postings: you righties here today are simply screaming, vindictive, emotional idiots. The law is clear: Obama didn't want to pursue these guys, but Holder has no choice. If what these guys did is right and justifiable, then they have nothing to worry about, correct?
Calm down: you guys have gone apoplectic!

"...it's bulls***. It's disgraceful. You wonder which side they're on ..."
Actually Mr. King, I don't wonder. It's not the side of the American people.
Evidently I missed reading Osama BinLaden's signature on my copy of the Geneva Convention. Maybe the other guys don't really behead their captives. Maybe we're wrong to frighten the poor terrorists. Bulls***!
I personally hope that the twits who think waterboarding is torture are beheaded with a dull knife by one of the fanatics they so love.

We are at war with these people...There are no "rules" in war, there is no "playing nice". This guy B.O. is rapidly losing control of this country....It is kinda scary. Hopefully, they will not "unmask" all of these CIA agents who have done their jobs....

No matter how often you repeat a lie, liberals, it still IS a lie. Apparently some of you don't get this simple FACT. Example: "the Bushies outed Valerie Plame." LIE. FACT: Richard Armitage in the State Department, who vehemently disliked Bush and was not trusted by Bush, OUTED Valerie Plame. If you can't get this fact straight, kill yourself and stop wasting air.

The reality of this situation is shameful to say the least for those that even remotely support the AG / Obama administration on this issue. When you are dealing with any terrorist element, there are no rules and we can?t pretend that our proper methods will produce any useful intelligence data. This is not rocket science with regard to those folks in the field attempting to save us from our own government. I leave you with an old national level intelligence axiom: ?Never stoop to their (the enemy) level, except if you can get a clean shot.? God bless this country.

Mike Ross, I'm not sure you understand the difference between an elected public official, one who takes an oath to protect his country and its constitution, and the very people responsible for doing everything in their power to destroy both. If your children had been victims at the hands of terrorists, would you be so quick to be "fair" to them? I doubt...

This is so stupid in every way for Obama it takes my breath away. In the first instance the CIA is very capable of embarrassing officials and congressman with the vast info at their disposal. Obama loses a "leak war". Second the CIA plays a vital role in stopping future 9/11's and now is not the time to tear it apart on a witch hunt. Obama will not get a bump like Bush did if there is another attack like 9/11. Obama could in fact face impeachment.
Third, it fuels the doubts that more and more American's have with Obama over his judgment. Democrats have always struggled looking strong on national security and this decision does nothing at all to help Obama look strong. In fact it looks to be pandering to the far left of his own party. Finally it guarantees another couple weeks of reasonable criticism of the President, after weeks of reasonable criticism over health care and his handling of federal finances. The guy is a crash dummy.

For any of you people who are so concerned about the rights of our enemies, just remember one thing: these people would kill you in a minute if they got their hands on you. If you think that standing up for them is going to win friendship with them, think again. Eric Holder is a pathetic excuse for an Attorney General of the United States. This is the same guy who rolled over like a puppy dog when bill clinton pardoned Mark Rich before leaving office. This administration is detrimental to the security of this country. Anyone who believes otherwise is a naive fool.

So basically, the party that claims to SO believe in "the rule of law" thinks we should ignore or abandon that "rule of law" whenever it suits us. Do they not know the meaning of the word "hypocrisy?" How about "two-faced" or "wafflers?" Either you believe in the rule of law and upholding it or you don't. It's really that simple.

King is a despicable excuse for a human being. He's right that torture might get someone to tell you something. However, there's no saying that the information they give you will be the truth. Ask the Seal's who undergo torture. They will tell you that they will say their father is Daffy Duck if they think thats what the interogator wants to hear.
Also, you torture one innocent man, and everyone that man meets back home will hate the US with a passion. What is the goal here? To create enemies for the US as quickly as possible?
Finally, King served in the National Guard, not a front line unit. Why is it that all these republican hawks never have served the front lines? You are hypocrites! Send your sons to the front line and then lets see how you feel. Despicable!

Holder is a known terrorist sympathizer and abettor. BO is a frick'n known terrorist sycophant. And anybody who still supports this anti-American maniac administration is a GD FOOL and/or a corrupt gi?me gi?me Alpha Hotel. The Democrat party lies down with pigs and dogs.
Anybody hear BO's canned BS today? Hell, I was embarrassed just listening to it. BozObama
must think his constituency is dumber than a box of rocks. Send that arrogant, done-nothing, ACORN community organizer who likes to write books about himself back to the Islands, back to Saul Alinsky, back to the bong pipe loaded with Maui Wowie. Better yet, send his sorry butt back to Kenya, his birthplace.

Liberals, please explain exactly what you WOULD do to get information about future terrorist attacks from terror suspects. Please explain how threatening someone is torture. Please explain exactly what we did to terrorists that was unacceptable, and compare it to some of the following acts committed by the Hussein boys and Al Qaeda: Pouring acid the faces of young girls, pushing people off of building with their hands and feet tied, dropping people into meat grinders feet first so they would die a little slower, killing Kurds with poison gas, bombing children in a day care center.

"It?s bulls***. It?s disgraceful. You wonder which side they?re on," ***********
I love King. He calls BS where it lives. Those who value thelives of the prisoners above Americans should and do agree with Holder, and Obama. Wanna call someone un-American? Start with them.

What would have the Bush Admin gained by outing Plame, that only gave credibility to her husband's claim? No, it is more logical the outing was an entrappment by (a) reporter(s), then her husband gains credibility and the Administration loses face.

"CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies." And this typifies the STUPIDITY of Democrats. The truth, WHICH IS READILY available, is that Democrat operative Richard Armitage at the State Department put this woman's name in Bob Novak's hands, and ARMITAGE ADMITTED IT PUBLICLY. But it didn't matter, BECAUSE PLAME WAS NOT AN UNDERCOVER AGENT AND NOT COVERED BY THE LAW DEMS ABUSED TO SLANDER THE WHITE HOUSE. This woman had driven to work at CIA Langley HQ for the past 6 years before the "outing." HER HUSBAND EVEN HAD HER JOB POSTED ON HIS BLOG. My god. No wonder Obama got elected. People so wrapped up in their tribal politics they can't see the truth when it's right there.

Yep this sounds like the voice of a sick individual...not
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/08/cheney_statement_on_cia_docume.asp
Cheney Statement on CIA Documents/Investigation
Former Vice President Dick Cheney gave The Weekly Standard a statement Monday night about the CIA documents and the coming Justice Department investigation.
The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude. They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions. President Obama?s decision to allow the Justice Department to investigate and possibly prosecute CIA personnel, and his decision to remove authority for interrogation from the CIA to the White House, serves as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration?s ability to be responsible for our nation?s security.

Translation, Obama's popularity is down, let's go after the CIA and try to score what Bush bombs we can to get back in the public's good graces. Go get'em Timmy, time to distract the country from an economy in the toilet, a government coup over 1/6 of the private sector and Trillions upon Trillions of additional debt that this executive and legislative branch are sacking the people with. Hang Bush from the tallest tree, baby!

Jimmy Carter did not lose simpily because of Reagan,He lost because he was a unamerican just Like Obama.They think alike.When the Shah was in power Iran had a triving Democracy.Jimmy Carter under the guise of humanitarian Rights pressured The Shah to release 3000 Criminals and threatend to withdraw millions in aid if he did not comply.Thats what caused the stir and anger in the Religious leaders ( MR CIA UNDER REPUBLICANS) which lead to the Overthrow of the Shah which emboldend Sadam,and people like Bin Laden, JIMMY CARTER IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER HALF A MILLION PEOPLE BEING PUT TO DEATH! UNDER THE GUISE OF HUMANITY.

I am comforted with the fact that Rep. King will never be anywhere near the Nuke codes! We as Americans are a descent people, so we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard and not stoop to the level of savages we are trying to rid the world of. Whether you like or hate George Bush, the truth is that there were just way too many laws that were broken under his watch and an investigation is warranted to find out if this was done to protect the American people or just out of pure Malice. Dick Cheney is very capable of doing some of these things just out of his xenophobic tendencies.Whats disheartening is the GOP who see everything in terms of left and right. The Bush administration is on their 10th strike now....TIME FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

I think it is scary anytime someone suggests that the law doesn't apply to him because fill in the blank. If the actions undertaken were illegal, then Cheney and King and anyone else now defending these actions should have been working to change the law. You can't just ignore the law because you think you know better.

Next up.........
The War in Afghanistan, and the need for more troops. Cant wait to hear the response from Obama, Pelosi, and the crew.... Maybe the Republicans are fighting along side the terrorists? LMAO
Obama will be impeached by 2011

Conservatives prove again how un-Christian they are. What does the Lord mean when He says "not to resist an evil person" and then adds "But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also"? Conservatives commit evil and blaspheme the Lord. They will be having an interesting conversation with the LORD on judgement day about the hatred in their hearts.

Michael Moore couldn't understand how the taliban aimed their destruction at New York City on 9/11 with its population of democrat zombies aiding and abetting the attack at every step of the way. Liberals use themselves as human shields for terrorists, something only brainwashed, used-up wastes of molecules would do. If a liberal is against something then the smartest thing a sane person would do is be completely for it. When the bomb goes off that vaporizes NYC it will be because the people there have proven they deserve it for being front and center liberal sheep.

"It should be a scorched earth policy.... This isn't just another policy. This goes to the heart of our national defense. We should do whatever we have to do."
This seems to be the GOP approach to everything, whether it's domestic politics or foreign policy. Just do whatever it takes to win, regardless of the morality or legality, just get it done. This is ultimately why they have failed so miserably in the last two election cycles at home and why George W. Bush's foreign policy so gravely harmed our standing in the world. I would just ask Mr. King one question: Is it ok for America's enemies to torture U.S. seviceman who they deem "terrorists?"

Isn't this the same Peter King who palled around with Irish terrorists (IRA)?! He needs to shut up,read the constitution, and remember that America is a nation of laws and not a nation of scared cowards who cringe at every bump in the night. If torture is so good then why are our commanders on the ground against it? WWJD?

King is a despicable excuse for a human being. He's right that torture might get someone to tell you something. However, there's no saying that the information they give you will be the truth. Ask the Seal's who undergo torture. They will tell you that they will say their father is Daffy Duck if they think thats what the interogator wants to hear. Also, you torture one innocent man, and everyone that man meets back home will hate the US with a passion. What is the goal here? To create enemies for the US as quickly as possible? Finally, King served in the National Guard, not a front line unit. Why is it that all these republican hawks never have served the front lines? You are hypocrites! Send your sons to the front line and then lets see how you feel. Despicable!
Posted By: JJ | August 25, 2009 at 01:42 PM
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Give me your left gonad and a set of Vise Grips; I will have your real account pin number in less than a minute. Head full of vegetable matter.

Watch out America the communist are in the White House, the Appollo gang who are communist are writting these heathcare bills and the stimulis bills...so They can take away your freedoms and rights as an American. Obama and his gang are out to sedtroy America...Watch out donot believe Anything they say..their is no natural outbreak of this pig flu..its man made to scare you into taking a virus that is not safe...Obama is Not an American..he is a home grown Marxist, period.

The CIA thing is a cheap diversion contrived by this Administration to take the heat off their mishandling of Health Care reform.
This is a desperate, unethical, morally bankrupt and failing administration. The only question is: just how ruthless are they?

Christ Himself said, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:14). When protecting one's family or neighbor, a Christian is unselfishly risking his or her life for the sake of others....
Posted By: Burgher | August 25, 2009 at 01:32 PM
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Holy bullrushes, dude: you make Christ sound like a Second Amendment advocate! First off, the verse is 13 not 14, but I nitpick. Verse 12 says what, friend? "This is my commandment, that ye love one another, even as I have loved you." In Verse 13, Christ is not saying start blasting away at everything that threatens you! For Christ's sake (sorry!), he previously told you to turn the other cheek!
Christ is saying that man conceives of laying down his life for his friends as the highest form of love; but God has trumped that a gazillion times by offering his Son to EVERYONE, friend or foe, saved or unsaved, righteous or sinner.
Holy Golgotha, man; how is it possible that you have completely missed Christ's central message?

ONE more time. Dear people don't allowed to be distracted by different kind of songs and music themes. But remember Is always "The Economy Stupid". Anything that will distract us from the Economic Debacle is distraction in progress.Don't worry about the CIA, FBI,ARM FORCES,Etc. we are behind them anyway. The only thing they can be accused is having us safe, all this years. The american pu

We need these procedures in place and the precedent of show trials to investigate who knew what about ACORN's fraudulent voter registrations and the dismissal of charges against the New Black Panthers .Can hardly wait for the show trials to start in 2013 for Holder and the rest of Obama's Zoo.Possibly of Obama himself.

Mr. King's strident and inflammatory remarks are unnecessary for the very much delayed, but needed national conversation about torture and its effectiveness as a method of interrogation. Of course, both sides believe strongly in their position. I do worry that if this investigation leads to criminal charges being filed. once again, some lower-ranking officials will be punished for the sins of their superiors. Hopefully, this investigation will help this country examine whether or not torture works when it comes to gathering intelligence. Another reason this issue needs to be investigated is because of the impact of the use of torture on not only America's world standing, but its foreign policy initiatives.

Every military personnel that has been water-boarded, had gas bombs loose on them, went through terrorist training should sue the United States. If you can't do that to ACTUAL TERRORISTS then it shouldn't be done to Americans. I wonder if the fire and smoke was torture to the 3000 that died in 9-11? Bunch of communists in office.

If you view 9-11 as a criminal act then clearly torture is an illegal form of interrogation.
If you believe 9-11 was an act of war then let us reflect on the ethics of the "Great Crusade" WW II.
US Navy submarine commander chasing down lifeboats from previous torpedoing of troop ship and machine gunning all Japanese survivors.
Fire bombing Tokyo and burning tens of thousands of women and children alive.
Executing prisoners at Normandy (See Band of Brothers)
Dresden
Hiroshima
Nagasaki.
So is this a war or a criminal investigation?
War is Hell
- U. S. general William Tecumseh Sherman
- (The guy that burned Atlanta and made Georgia Howl)

Valerie Plame was outed by who? No charges were ever made. We are not sure who exactly disclosed her employment or who OKd her outing. We do however have ACLU rats showing pictures of CIA operatives to GITMO detainees. I dont think anyone can deny that someone needs charged with treason for that crime. Regarding threatning statements made to suspected and known terrorists, where do you people get off thinking that sleep deprivation is torture? Where do you get off that blasting loud music is torture. All things that may make you uncomfortable are not torture. Threatening someone's family is not torture. The CIA has a job to do and they are doing it against a foe who would cut off each and everyone of your heads. How can you be so adamantly against sleep deprivation?

I have a feeling that Jack Bauer would be facing the death penalty under an Obama administration. I always knew Democrats were soft on defense, but to actually hunt down OUR guys in the CIA? I never thought that Democrats were even capable of that.

Wow - a lot of "kill them all" crazies posting today. Funny to think that these 400lb retard lardasses being soooo tough and brave on this blog wouldn't even give up their TV Remote control if they were told it would save the country. As for King, well he is just a nut - probably a birther/deather too!!

CIA officer Valerie Plame was outed and put in danger by the Bushies. A party which Peter King is a member and supporter of. - factually incorrect.
In September 2003, on CNN's Crossfire, Novak asserted: "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this. There is no great crime here,"