Alibaba.com

Alibaba is a on-line market place in mainland China. Most of the legitimate Chinese carbon manufacturers have on-line stores there. It is larger than Ebay and you need to stick with the companies that people have had positive experiences with. There are scammers out there, only deal with the ones that accept Paypal. I have purchased 2 frames form China, a road frame from Miracle and a new 26" hardtale from Flyxii. Both transactions went well. I haven't read too many guys willing to take a risk on the full suspension models.

I bought an FM038 from Alibaba last week. wrote to quite a few suppliers about frames and ended up getting one from Shenzhen Baolijia Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. Ms Kathy Jin was online on the chat and she was super-helpful with answering all my questions. I had to chat to her again today to ask which headset fit the frame and she was helpful then as well.

I can highly recommend the company. My only word of advice is to make sure you get the right BB and 31.8 seatpost size and ask which headset the bike uses, as well as if the headset is tapered or not. Good luck!

Beware AliExpress too. I tried ordering a frame from Miracle, which I thought was one of the supposedly reputable vendors. After ordering this 1.5 months ago, this has been a string of excuses and issue of a fake tracking number. Then, they stop responding to you to string you along. Moreover, the feedback at AliExpress is totally bogus. You can only leave feedback if you click that your order was received with no issues. If you have a dispute, you cannot leave any feedback. Avoid Miracle at all costs.

Beware AliExpress too. I tried ordering a frame from Miracle, which I thought was one of the supposedly reputable vendors. After ordering this 1.5 months ago, this has been a string of excuses and issue of a fake tracking number. Then, they stop responding to you to string you along. Moreover, the feedback at AliExpress is totally bogus. You can only leave feedback if you click that your order was received with no issues. If you have a dispute, you cannot leave any feedback. Avoid Miracle at all costs.

Miracle is fine and has sold many frames including one to me. Communication was very good and I spoke the rep in real time chat several times. Deal with the Chinese companies directly, not through aliexpress. I paid with Paypal, did you? Keep in mind that these companies usually do big orders so making a one off frame for a U.S. buyer is not high on the priority list.

If you pay with AliExpress, they hold your $ and do not release it to the vendor until you relay that the product was received. In my case, I got my money back. Others may have received their orders fine from Miracle. I am just relaying my experience. I get that one off orders are harder to fill. What I thought was wrong in the way they treated me was: 1) they kept stringing me along with false delivery dates and claims, 2) they stopped communicating with me as they missed delivery dates, 3) they asked me to falsely click on Aliexpress that the item was shipped and then received (which means that the get my $ from Aliexpress). Then they said they'd refund my $ through paypal... Sounds like a reputable company to me.

I turned around ordered a frame from DengFu through Ali and received it in a week-- so not all vendors are bad.