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This same topic has ran on AZB for over a month with well over 1,000 posts ... and has done so with a high level of intellectual discssion from all sides without jumping into the gutter of personal attacks, other than the brief appearance of Secaucus Fats, and I had honestly hoped this forum could approach that level of civility and intellectual discourse.

That it has not disappoints me greatly.

Post up the proof of my so called "gutter personal" attack in that thread, go ahead and post it. You are lying, and you know it. Once again you show yourself for the lying spineless worm that you are. Like I said, IF IT'S TRUE GO AHEAD AND POST IT SO YOU CAN HAVE PROOF. Otherwise go $#%& yourself. (How's that work for you?)

You can't kill me I'm immortal
I'm not afraid to die my soul will travel on

"Absolutely not, i have no doubt" fits me like a glove for sure.
But if u mean do i hav a choice outside this poll, then yes i do. I havnt studyd every religion etc, but i havnt seen any evidence that would pursuade me in the slightest that there might be some sort of creator etc.

But i do hav a softspot for religion of sorts. I kan see myself joining in the antix of a pagan club of some sort celebrating nature or a solstice, or any excuse for sex and drinking and feasting.
mac.

Originally Posted by BeiberLvrI see. If I may, I will ask a few more uniformed questions.

If they all believe in the same god. Why do they have different beliefs? Why aren't all of their religious texts the same?

What about religions like buddhism and scientology? Do they also have the same god?

Do Buddhist believe in god?

No, we do not. There are several reasons for this. The Buddha, like modern sociologists and psychologists, believed that religious ideas and especially the god idea have their origin in fear. The Buddha says:

"Gripped by fear men go to the sacred mountains,sacred groves, sacred trees and shrines".

Dp 188

Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of gods in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered. All this seems to support the Buddha’s teaching that the god-idea is a response to fear and frustration. The Buddha taught us to try to understand our fears, to lessen our desires and to calmly and courageously accept the things we cannot change. He replaced fear, not with irrational belief but with rational understanding.

The second reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is because there does not seem to be any evidence to support this idea. There are numerous religions, all claiming that they alone have god’s words preserved in their holy book, that they alone understand god’s nature, that their god exists and that the gods of other religions do not. Some claim that god is masculine, some that she is feminine and others that it is neuter. They are all satisfied that there is ample evidence to prove the existence of their god but they laugh in disbelief at the evidence other religions use to prove the existence of another god. It is not surprising that with so many different religions spending so many centuries trying to prove the existence of their gods that still no real, concrete, substantial or irrefutable evidence has been found. Buddhists suspend judgement until such evidence is forthcoming.

The third reason the Buddha did not believe in a god is that the belief is not necessary. Some claim that the belief in a god is necessary in order to explain the origin on the universe. But this is not so. Science has very convincingly explained how the universe came into being without having to introduce the god-idea. Some claim that belief in god is necessary to have a happy, meaningful life. Again we can see that this is not so. There are millions of atheists and free-thinkers, not to mention many Buddhists, who live useful, happy and meaningful lives without belief in a god. Some claim that belief in god’s power is necessary because humans, being weak, do not have the strength to help themselves. Once again, the evidence indicates the opposite. One often hears of people who have overcome great disabilities and handicaps, enormous odds and difficulties, through their own inner resources, through their own efforts and without belief in a god. Some claim that god is necessary in order to give man salvation. But this argument only holds good if you accept the theological concept of salvation and Buddhists do not accept such a concept. Based on his own experience, the Buddha saw that each human being had the capacity to purify the mind, develop infinite love and compassion and perfect understanding. He shifted attention from the heavens to the heart and encouraged us to find solutions to our problems through self-understanding.

You can't kill me I'm immortal
I'm not afraid to die my soul will travel on

Yeah you're real Christian and religious ain't you? Hypocrite, you are against everything the Nazarene taught, and if he came back you'd crucify him again for being liberal scum. Here it is, Christmas day, and instead of offering something good, or positive, you spew your lies, ignorance, and hatred...way to go man, you're a real Christian alright.

BTW punk, do you not know how to use the search thread by author function? There's a troll here all right and it's you, you sick degenerate!

Last edited by Solomon Grundy; 12-25-2012 at 07:46 PM.

You can't kill me I'm immortal
I'm not afraid to die my soul will travel on

Had a look at azbilliards and i see that NO plus MIGHTBE equalled YES.
I had a glance at some postings -- the uzual arguements.
And the only one that i saw that half interested me woz the arguement relating to the unlikely universe.

In fakt i hav spent much time recently reading up on the unlikely universe -- and the whole topik iz very interesting. However the science fakts are wrong (very wrong, but very interesting) and the logik iz flawed (but i admit very sticky).
mac.

Perhaps he was referring to my only other post in the thread, which incidentally does not amount to a "gutter personal attack" but rather an observation on Dub's narcissistic view of himself as a veritable fountain of knowledge:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LWWOK ... what small has been learned in phsics since Eistein?

Answer ... little to nothing.

Lots of Eistein's ... and his peers ... predictions have ben verified, and that's about it.