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Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

oh my God I'm so sorry... no sir,I'm perfectly contented with what they posted,only looking and leaving something to choice. anyway thank you very much for the info sir tebs God bless you and your family...daevan

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Let me share a little bit of what I know about the Clarence Stewart Hatch (may not be 100% accurate but this is what I was told about them). Clarence got his birds from Jack Walton - those are the dark red, Yellow Legged Waltons known as the bonecrushers (these are the original bonecrusher hatch). It was either Massey or Paul Harvey that coined the word bonecrusher. The cocks are yellow legged and some of the pullets came green legged and the old timers who acquired them would breed toward YL or GL depending on what they like, but basically they were of the same blood. Even Sanford hatch the originator preferred and showed the YLs and not the GL ones that he is famous for now. But going back to the Stewarts, Ray Hoskins and Clarence, both from Texas, are very closed friends, they are like brothers. They shared and exchanged brood materials and these birds now come mostly PC, YL, some are lighter reds with white streamers on tails and wings and white underhackles (Ray also kept the dark red color from the original stewart/waltons, so the Hoskins now comes both light red, lemon hackled and also dark wine red). Someone here said that they look like Oakgrove hatch. Yes, because Gene Browne (Oakgrove) got his YLH from his family doctor Doc Robinson and Doc Robinson got his first ones from Clarence Stewart..

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by Engkanto

Let me share a little bit of what I know about the Clarence Stewart Hatch (may not be 100% accurate but this is what I was told about them). Clarence got his birds from Jack Walton - those are the dark red, Yellow Legged Waltons known as the bonecrushers (these are the original bonecrusher hatch). It was either Massey or Paul Harvey that coined the word bonecrusher. The cocks are yellow legged and some of the pullets came green legged and the old timers who acquired them would breed toward YL or GL depending on what they like, but basically they were of the same blood. Even Sanford hatch the originator preferred and showed the YLs and not the GL ones that he is famous for now. But going back to the Stewarts, Ray Hoskins and Clarence, both from Texas, are very closed friends, they are like brothers. They shared and exchanged brood materials and these birds now come mostly PC, YL, some are lighter reds with white streamers on tails and wings and white underhackles (Ray also kept the dark red color from the original stewart/waltons, so the Hoskins now comes both light red, lemon hackled and also dark wine red). Someone here said that they look like Oakgrove hatch. Yes, because Gene Browne (Oakgrove) got his YLH from his family doctor Doc Robinson and Doc Robinson got his first ones from Clarence Stewart..

nice input i also heard this story but as u can see now the ray hoskin ylm and stuart ylh now is completely being bred by other breeders differently the performance is completely different how about your gene f hoskin ylm are they same as your jerry d stewart?

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by harry

nice input i also heard this story but as u can see now the ray hoskin ylm and stuart ylh now is completely being bred by other breeders differently the performance is completely different how about your gene f hoskin ylm are they same as your jerry d stewart?

Thank you Harry,

I agree 100%. YLMs and the Stewarts maybe a lot different now than what they used to be when Clarence and Ray were breeding them. Although there maybe a few old timers who are keeping them as close as possible to the originals (i.e., physical traits and overall ability), most breeders of these lines now will breed according to their liking .

The Stewart I got from Jerry Dupree according to him are his Oakgrove family. My own YLH family now is heavy on Stewart blood. The stags come dark wine red with white streamers on tails, they have sleeker body conformation than the YLMs and some have smaller heads. All the hens are light wheaten in color with some white on feathers. Gene's YLMs have wider backs, bigger boned and they come both light red, lemon hackled and also wine red in color and dark hackled. The hens can come wheaten and dark red (partridge?). I have some of Gene's birds posted in my gallery. Gene still keeps the Stewart line he got from Ray and would cross the YLM with Stewart from time to time.

Here is a Hoskins - Stewart young stag he gifted me earlier this year. He's on heavy moult now so I'm posting his older picture.

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by Engkanto

Thank you Harry,

I agree 100%. YLMs and the Stewarts maybe a lot different now than what they used to be when Clarence and Ray were breeding them. Although there maybe a few old timers who are keeping them as close as possible to the originals (i.e., physical traits and overall ability), most breeders of these lines now will breed according to their liking .

The Stewart I got from Jerry Dupree according to him are his Oakgrove family. My own YLH family now is heavy on Stewart blood. The stags come dark wine red with white streamers on tails, they have sleeker body conformation than the YLMs and some have smaller heads. All the hens are light wheaten in color with some white on feathers. Gene's YLMs have wider backs, bigger boned and they come both light red, lemon hackled and also wine red in color and dark hackled. The hens can come wheaten and dark red (partridge?). I have some of Gene's birds posted in my gallery. Gene still keeps the Stewart line he got from Ray and would cross the YLM with Stewart from time to time.

Here is a Hoskins - Stewart young stag he gifted me earlier this year. He's on heavy moult now so I'm posting his older picture.

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by Engkanto

Thank you Harry,

I agree 100%. YLMs and the Stewarts maybe a lot different now than what they used to be when Clarence and Ray were breeding them. Although there maybe a few old timers who are keeping them as close as possible to the originals (i.e., physical traits and overall ability), most breeders of these lines now will breed according to their liking .

The Stewart I got from Jerry Dupree according to him are his Oakgrove family. My own YLH family now is heavy on Stewart blood. The stags come dark wine red with white streamers on tails, they have sleeker body conformation than the YLMs and some have smaller heads. All the hens are light wheaten in color with some white on feathers. Gene's YLMs have wider backs, bigger boned and they come both light red, lemon hackled and also wine red in color and dark hackled. The hens can come wheaten and dark red (partridge?). I have some of Gene's birds posted in my gallery. Gene still keeps the Stewart line he got from Ray and would cross the YLM with Stewart from time to time.

Here is a Hoskins - Stewart young stag he gifted me earlier this year. He's on heavy moult now so I'm posting his older picture.

Some older pictures of my YLH (Stewarts).

Nice Yellow leg hatc Edwin ether of the light hackle and dark are a beauty

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by reslingblade

Nice Yellow leg hatc Edwin ether of the light hackle and dark are a beauty

Thanks Reslingblade.

Harry, the first one that looks spangled is a Hoskins-Stewart blend from Gene. I'm planning to breed him into my existing YLH family next season to put more Hoskins blood into mine. Would also love to have some spangled YLMs (my inbred YLHs when bred to my red Albany would throw spangled offsprings and I'm thinking I probably have a better chance of getting spangles with this stag). Btw, your Stewart rooster looks awesome.

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by Engkanto

Thanks Reslingblade.

Harry, the first one that looks spangled is a Hoskins-Stewart blend from Gene. I'm planning to breed him into my existing YLH family next season to put more Hoskins blood into mine. Would also love to have some spangled YLMs (my inbred YLHs when bred to my red Albany would throw spangled offsprings and I'm thinking I probably have a better chance of getting spangles with this stag). Btw, your Stewart rooster looks awesome.

Thanks again guys!

edwin

gene f also has the stewart ylh? also from ray hoskin? what can u say the difference between the stewart of ray and his ylm at gene's farm>? this sounds intresting to me
as gene got some solid stewart from the man ray hoskin

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by harry

edwin

gene f also has the stewart ylh? also from ray hoskin? what can u say the difference between the stewart of ray and his ylm at gene's farm>? this sounds intresting to me
as gene got some solid stewart from the man ray hoskin

Re: strictly Stuart YLH...

Originally Posted by Engkanto

Let me share a little bit of what I know about the Clarence Stewart Hatch (may not be 100% accurate but this is what I was told about them). Clarence got his birds from Jack Walton - those are the dark red, Yellow Legged Waltons known as the bonecrushers (these are the original bonecrusher hatch). It was either Massey or Paul Harvey that coined the word bonecrusher. The cocks are yellow legged and some of the pullets came green legged and the old timers who acquired them would breed toward YL or GL depending on what they like, but basically they were of the same blood. Even Sanford hatch the originator preferred and showed the YLs and not the GL ones that he is famous for now. But going back to the Stewarts, Ray Hoskins and Clarence, both from Texas, are very closed friends, they are like brothers. They shared and exchanged brood materials and these birds now come mostly PC, YL, some are lighter reds with white streamers on tails and wings and white underhackles (Ray also kept the dark red color from the original stewart/waltons, so the Hoskins now comes both light red, lemon hackled and also dark wine red). Someone here said that they look like Oakgrove hatch. Yes, because Gene Browne (Oakgrove) got his YLH from his family doctor Doc Robinson and Doc Robinson got his first ones from Clarence Stewart..