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I'm surprised at all the vitriol Elway is receiving, you would think with the success he's had he would have a bit of leeway with the fanbase.

Broncos fanbase is spoiled rotten dude. I see the same stuff you do. We miss the playoffs 1 year and its like the sky is falling because the fans are used to winning and always being in the playoffs.

Check this out:

5 losing seasons in 37 years
22 playoff appearances in past 40 seasons
7 SB appearances--2nd most in NFL history
2nd highest winning percentage of [b]any major sports franchise in history (Lakers #1)[/b]

The fans are not used to losing my man. Thats why you get the sky is falling fans/posters when the team goes 9-7 and misses the playoffs. They are so used to the big splashy moves.

How or where does that come from? Denver has the 7th highest just for the NFL.

Caveat sorry. 2nd highest win% since Bowlen took ownership in 1984. They have traded places with the Lakers a few times. Broncos beat writers on Twitter have been randomly tweeting out their ranking thru the year whenever they would win/lose games. So past 33 years. They are sandwiched between the Lakers and Spurs._________________

Curious how this turns out. He does not have a ton of experience as a DC and Miami's defense was not that great this year, but the skillset required to be a good HC is much different than the one to be a successful coordinator._________________NFL: Dallas Cowboys
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Huge step backwards for the Broncos. I like the hire but didn't Kubiak have like a 50% championship win rate?

Well, he stepped down due to health.

There is speculation that Elway wanted to let go of some if not all of the offensive coaching staff and Kubiak was like nah I can't do that. But officially Kubiak quit due to health and the grind of being a HC. Which I do think is true._________________
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Huge step backwards for the Broncos. I like the hire but didn't Kubiak have like a 50% championship win rate?

Well, he stepped down due to health.

There is speculation that Elway wanted to let go of some if not all of the offensive coaching staff and Kubiak was like nah I can't do that. But officially Kubiak quit due to health and the grind of being a HC. Which I do think is true.

I think so too. It's just amazing that he won a championship in such a short career. I wonder if any other coaches have a higher championship rate.

Huge step backwards for the Broncos. I like the hire but didn't Kubiak have like a 50% championship win rate?

Well, he stepped down due to health.

There is speculation that Elway wanted to let go of some if not all of the offensive coaching staff and Kubiak was like nah I can't do that. But officially Kubiak quit due to health and the grind of being a HC. Which I do think is true.

Yea man, he collapsed on the field in Houston with a stroke was it? and then he basically had the same thing happen in the middle of the season this year and missed games.

There was some serious talk about how he may be suffering from early stages of CTE from his playing days. Working and grinding and mentally frying yourself over managing a NFL team and gameplan every week is probably not the best health decision._________________

I don't know, but I believe he did. The Miami FO was very frustrated with the previous coaching staff for not providing enough input during the draft process, and VJ was high on the pick and fit for his D.

Curious how this turns out. He does not have a ton of experience as a DC and Miami's defense was not that great this year, but the skillset required to be a good HC is much different than the one to be a successful coordinator.

Bit of a meh hire to me, oh well let's see how it turns out._________________I bought one of those tapes to teach you Spanish in your sleep. During the night, the tape skipped. Now I can only stutter in Spanish.

I'm not in love with the hire but I don't hate his either. I think it's good that former players aren't speaking general platitudes about him and instead have given really good examples of why he's a players coach. It sounds as if he had a say in personnel and was right on a lot of his decisions.

I get more concerned as far as his overall experience leading a larger group- only 1 year as DC is worrisome, considering he's only coached DBs prior to that. I also worry about his coordinators, particularly offensively where it's rumored McCoy will be the pick, but McCoy and Vance have never worked together before which I find odd._________________