posted August 28, 2015 07:42 AM
I'm sticking with my silicone/wax mixture, I have been treating a film with VS about once a month it has had about three treatments now, I opened the film case today, I could not smell vinegar at all, so who knows?...I also use these to clean the little places on the projector, good for getting fluff off the claw...Dental Brush

posted August 28, 2015 08:41 AM
Steve, your silicone/wax mixture sounds interesting. Details please? I've got a print suffering V.S. perhaps it might help. I bought three bottles of cleaner from Derann when they closed and am now just about at the end. What are most folk using? I'd appreciate some ideas. Is CHC cleaner good?

posted August 28, 2015 01:03 PM
I have tried the cleaner on ebay, I think you will find this is just IPA, it certainly looks and smells like it, it will clean the film, but as far as I can tell there is no lubrication, and in my opinion not good on magnetic stripe.

posted August 28, 2015 02:34 PM
Terrible stuff, I did try a bottle once from Derann and a drop landed on my table top removing the varnish,I contacted Derann and they said they've never had a problem, never used it again!!! Also do not use it on old black and white prints as it wrecks them, WD40 is a much better bet!! Just Isoprop with some sort of lubricant in, Mark.

posted August 29, 2015 03:11 PM
I bought some thinners at Llidl recently for thinning paint and because I had a scrap piece of film lying around I thought I would try cleaning the film and see how it reacted with it. It was 16mm B/W and it of course cleaned the film perfectly but surprisingly it did not damage the film or emulsion at all! Now as of course I would not recommend the use of thinners to clean film, it does show that you can never be sure what is contained in in some supposedly legitimate film cleaning solutions. I have also tried WD40 and found this to seemingly have no adverse effects. It makes you wonder what the ingredients of recommended film cleaners are!

posted August 30, 2015 08:29 AM
As mentioned in a previous "film cleaner" topic, Cresclean certainly smells like WD40! It certainly cleans and lubricates the film. I have noticed that the projector noise is also quieter when running films treated with it. Time will tell as to its preservative qualities. Certainly, the old Thermofilm was good in this respect. I have never had any bother with VS on any gauge in my collection, but some Super 8 prints have started to go "pink". Ken Finch.

posted August 31, 2015 06:21 AM
Hello, I am the person selling the film cleaner on ebay, this discussion was brought to my attention by one of my happy customers, it is very similar to the Derann formula, and it does contain a lubricant, almost 300 hundred bottles sold now, with great feedback, a film club buys 10-15 bottles at a time and they think its great. It does not contain wax that can soaks into sound stripes and clogs on sound heads. It dries very fast and leaves a light lubricant that gives smooth projection. I use the cleaner myself on sound and silent films, As a test I soaked a piece of sound stripe film in the cleaner for a week and there was no damage to the film, I provide a cine to dvd service and use it all the time. Kind regards Alastair

posted September 02, 2015 06:49 PM
Hi Andrew, no I haven't tested Polyester striped film, was this applied with a home striping kit? or applied professionally? What was the results of the Derann cleaner? Kind regardsAlastair

posted September 03, 2015 03:45 AM
Alistair, what you are telling us is a little concerning then really.

Polyester prints could never be striped at home, they need large professional equipment to make up the paste and to apply it correctly from what I've read.It is an extremely difficult process to master apparently, and as such it would concern me greatly to "experiment" with these type of late prints as for one, they tend to be the most valuable prints now due to the fact many late desirable titles HAD to be printed on pasted polyester after pre striped stock ran out, and secondly this type of stripe was always the most vulnerable from any cleaning done with the Derann film cleaner, which you say, is close in make up to this one being offered.

The effects of using the Derann cleaner on some of these type of prints can result in sections of the stripe being lifted or worse still, inadvertently removed!This is especially applicable with the tiny .4mm wide balance stripe. If someone's prized print of say "Independence Day" were to be ruined by using these types of cleaner, I am sure that individual would be distraught to say the least.

May I suggest you try to validate this cleaner on a small amount of this type of stock to ensure your customers can relax in its use with ALL types of film stock.