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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Your "source" seems to be using a far different copy of the Constitution that I have. Mine has no less than FIVE different mentions of the RIGHT TO VOTE or a variation of those exact words.

Amendments 14, 15, 19, 24 and 26.

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Originally Posted by Goshin

No matter how you spin it, it is a pretty big case of hypocrisy.

How does it involve hypocrisy to object to supressing the right of a citizen to vote in an election - something listed five separate times in the US Constitution - with admittance to a private function involving great security because of the people who attend such events?

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Originally Posted by haymarket

How does it involve hypocrisy to object to supressing the right of a citizen to vote in an election - something listed five separate times in the US Constitution - with admittance to a private function involving great security because of the people who attend such events?

It wouldn't, if it wasn't for the major Dem contention that photo ID = suppression of vote (which is nonsense).... in which case it is perfectly reasonable to argue that requiring photo ID in this case = suppression of ability to attend DNC, which is itself a component in the election process, obviously.

Don't feel lonely though, the Repubs are huge hypocrits too.

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Originally Posted by Goshin

It wouldn't, if it wasn't for the major Dem contention that photo ID = suppression of vote (which is nonsense)

It is not nonsense. The Brennan Center for Justice has studied the issue and found that as many as 10% of voters in some states lack the requisite forms of ID. Furthermore, the so-called "problem" that voter ID purports to solve does not actually exist, and even supporters of these laws have been unable to produce any examples (let alone actual statistics) to support their claims.

in which case it is perfectly reasonable to argue that requiring photo ID in this case = suppression of ability to attend DNC, which is itself a component in the election process, obviously.

The difference is that you have a constitutional right to vote. You do not have the right to attend the DNC.

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Originally Posted by Goshin

True. It still comes across as laughably hypocritical though. It smacks of "do as I say, not as I DO".

No it doesn't, as the two are completely different situations. The Democrats are not arguing that you shouldn't need an ID to do *anything*, just that you shouldn't need one to vote. Would it be hypocritical of the GOP to want to require women to have an ultrasound before getting an abortion, but not to require women to have an ultrasound before attending the RNC?

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Except there is none here. The official US Constitution mentions the right to vote five times in five different places. Sadly, it never mentions the right to attend a political convention.

Equating opposition to an effort to diminsh and supress the Constitutional right to vote in pubic elections with an effort to maintain security at a private function is ludicrous and outright ridiculous.

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Re: You’ll Need an ID to Prove You’re a Democrat but Not to Vote

Except there is none here. The official US Constitution mentions the right to vote five times in five different places. Sadly, it never mentions the right to attend a political convention.

Equating opposition to an effort to diminsh and supress the Constitutional right to vote in pubic elections with an effort to maintain security at a private function is ludicrous and outright ridiculous.

Spin however you'd like. You cover for them continually, this is no surprise.

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