How to avoid login....

Re: How to avoid login....

Alan Moorman wrote:
> How can I avoid any kind of log in with SUSE 10.2?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Alan Moorman
>

If you're talking about a KDE session, then you can
go to Configure Desktop (Personal Settings) ->
System Administration -> Login Manager
(click button for Administrator Mode and enter
the root password) and click on the Convenience
tab and Enable Auto-Login for a particular username.

If you are wanting a shell (non-graphical), it can
be done as well... a bit trickier.... however
only do these things if security isn't important
to you at all.

Re: How to avoid login....

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:16:01 -0600, Chris Cox wrote:
>Alan Moorman wrote:
>> How can I avoid any kind of log in with SUSE 10.2?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Alan Moorman
>>
>
>If you're talking about a KDE session, then you can
>go to Configure Desktop (Personal Settings) ->
>System Administration -> Login Manager
>(click button for Administrator Mode and enter
>the root password) and click on the Convenience
>tab and Enable Auto-Login for a particular username.
>
>If you are wanting a shell (non-graphical), it can
>be done as well... a bit trickier.... however
>only do these things if security isn't important
>to you at all.

Well, yeah, I think security isn't important, as in another
person using the computer.

I am the administrator, and the only user.

However, I'm a newbie to Linux, and don't know what a "KDE
session" is/means.....

Alan

Re: How to avoid login....

Alan Moorman wrote:
> How can I avoid any kind of log in with SUSE 10.2?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Alan Moorman

Turn the computer off.

--
Dancin in the ruins tonight
Tayo'y Mga Pinoy

Re: How to avoid login....

Alan Moorman wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:16:01 -0600, Chris Cox
> wrote:
>
>> Alan Moorman wrote:
>>> How can I avoid any kind of log in with SUSE 10.2?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Alan Moorman
>>>
>> If you're talking about a KDE session, then you can
>> go to Configure Desktop (Personal Settings) ->
>> System Administration -> Login Manager
>> (click button for Administrator Mode and enter
>> the root password) and click on the Convenience
>> tab and Enable Auto-Login for a particular username.
>>
>> If you are wanting a shell (non-graphical), it can
>> be done as well... a bit trickier.... however
>> only do these things if security isn't important
>> to you at all.
>
> Well, yeah, I think security isn't important, as in another
> person using the computer.
>
> I am the administrator, and the only user.
>
> However, I'm a newbie to Linux, and don't know what a "KDE
> session" is/means.....

Well, it means that you're running KDE as your primary
desktop instead of Gnome. Both are available in
openSUSE... you choose at install time which one you
prefer.

If you have a button on the lower left (assuming openSUSE 10.2)
that looks like a lizard and hoevering over it produces
a message about it being Kmenu... then you have a KDE
desktop.

If you open up the KMenu (click on the lizard) you will
see one of the items under the Favorites tab is
Configure Desktop.

Before I can help futher, you need to see if you're
running KDE... if it's not KDE, then you're likely
running Gnome. I haven't done an auto-login with
Gnome.. somebody else may have to post instructions
for that.

Re: How to avoid login....

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:58:48 -0600, Chris Cox wrote:
>Alan Moorman wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:16:01 -0600, Chris Cox
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Moorman wrote:
>>>> How can I avoid any kind of log in with SUSE 10.2?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Alan Moorman
>>>>
>>> If you're talking about a KDE session, then you can
>>> go to Configure Desktop (Personal Settings) ->
>>> System Administration -> Login Manager
>>> (click button for Administrator Mode and enter
>>> the root password) and click on the Convenience
>>> tab and Enable Auto-Login for a particular username.
>>>
>>> If you are wanting a shell (non-graphical), it can
>>> be done as well... a bit trickier.... however
>>> only do these things if security isn't important
>>> to you at all.
>>
>> Well, yeah, I think security isn't important, as in another
>> person using the computer.
>>
>> I am the administrator, and the only user.
>>
>> However, I'm a newbie to Linux, and don't know what a "KDE
>> session" is/means.....
>
>Well, it means that you're running KDE as your primary
>desktop instead of Gnome. Both are available in
>openSUSE... you choose at install time which one you
>prefer.
>
>If you have a button on the lower left (assuming openSUSE 10.2)
>that looks like a lizard and hoevering over it produces
>a message about it being Kmenu... then you have a KDE
>desktop.
>
>If you open up the KMenu (click on the lizard) you will
>see one of the items under the Favorites tab is
>Configure Desktop.
>
>Before I can help futher, you need to see if you're
>running KDE... if it's not KDE, then you're likely
>running Gnome. I haven't done an auto-login with
>Gnome.. somebody else may have to post instructions
>for that.

Thanks! I figured out that I'm using Gnome. . .

Alan Moorman

Re: How to avoid login....

>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Moorman writes:

Alan> Well, yeah, I think security isn't important, as in another
Alan> person using the computer.

Typical newbie mindset. But when you realize that security IS
important, it'd be too late. You'd better stay with the current
security model during your learning. There ARE reasons most Linux
distributions (and unix installations) are the way they are. That's
more than 30 years of experience accumulated. Not something that a
newbie can fully understand in 3 days.

Alan> I am the administrator, and the only user.

In unix (and other serious OSes), the administrator usually log in as
an unprivileged user, switching to "administrator mode" only when the
occasional necessity arises. This is something you as a newbie should
learn. Why? There are strong reasons. e.g. to prevent you from
accidently doing a "rm -rf /" or "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda" or
something like that.

Alan> However, I'm a newbie to Linux, and don't know what a "KDE
Alan> session" is/means.....

If you're a newbie, you'd better leave the machine with the current
settings and stay with it until you've learnt enough to do something
differently. It's possible to do what you want, but you're not ready
for it. (You should know how to do it when your Linux skills are
"mature" enough.)

Re: How to avoid login....

Unfortunately that is just not true. You are almost certainly networking
the computer. That means you have 8 billion other users, many of whom might
want to use your machine.

And what in the world is so difficult about logging in? Just type your
password.

>Typical newbie mindset. But when you realize that security IS
>important, it'd be too late. You'd better stay with the current
>security model during your learning. There ARE reasons most Linux
>distributions (and unix installations) are the way they are. That's
>more than 30 years of experience accumulated. Not something that a
>newbie can fully understand in 3 days.

> Alan> I am the administrator, and the only user.
>In unix (and other serious OSes), the administrator usually log in as
>an unprivileged user, switching to "administrator mode" only when the
>occasional necessity arises. This is something you as a newbie should
>learn. Why? There are strong reasons. e.g. to prevent you from
>accidently doing a "rm -rf /" or "dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/hda" or
>something like that.

> Alan> However, I'm a newbie to Linux, and don't know what a "KDE
> Alan> session" is/means.....

KDE is the window manager-- the thing that puts up all those little icons
and windows on your desktop and lets you click on an icon to run a program.
Running KDE is what is called a KDE session. You run it eitehr using startx
or it automatically is run during your boot sequence.
>If you're a newbie, you'd better leave the machine with the current
>settings and stay with it until you've learnt enough to do something
>differently. It's possible to do what you want, but you're not ready
>for it. (You should know how to do it when your Linux skills are
>"mature" enough.)

Re: How to avoid login....

> I agree. I have no idea what is so hard about typing in a password.
>

I run a second networked box with vnc from my main workstation. This
box does video rendering (distributed rendering with cinelerra), video
encoding with mencoder, and whatever else I want without tying up my
main workstation cpu, memory and disks. I've disconnect the monitor
from this box to save space. Which makes logging in tricky (the vnc /
vino doesn't begin operating until gnome login). An automatic login
to a normal user on gnome would be very handy. I could then
disconnect the extra keyboard and mouse too...

Not sure about the security issues involved though.

So this is just to say that in my case "what is so hard about typing
in a password" has a valid answer. I would eventually like to have
more of these 'blind boxes' going as a render-farm for hdv video
encoding on cinelerra.

What you want is to get a remote desktop without *CONSOLE* login. The
appropriate way to do it is:n

Arrange your machine to start, upon booting, an Xvnc server and start
a gnome xdm to manage it. Then, you get a normal gnome login screen
in your VNC client. And you still still need to type in username and
password in that genome login screen.

So, you don't avoid login. You just arrange an Xvnc server to be
started upon booting. And that can be done via the config file of
"gdm". Try to find it under /etc. It's location varies from distro
to distro. You need to add one more X server to gdm.conf, and specify
that "Xvnc" be used as the server program. Give it its own display
number, e.g. :5.

gray> An automatic login to a normal user on gnome would be very
gray> handy. I could then disconnect the extra keyboard and mouse
gray> too...

What you want is not automatic login, but automatic starting of an
Xvnc with a genome login screen.

Re: How to avoid login....

>>>>> "gray" == gray writes:
>> I agree. I have no idea what is so hard about typing in a
>> password.

gray> I run a second networked box with vnc from my main
gray> workstation. This box does video rendering (distributed
gray> rendering with cinelerra), video encoding with mencoder, and
gray> whatever else I want without tying up my main workstation
gray> cpu, memory and disks.

But why do you need VNC? X11 programs can happily display remotely,
and if you do it via ssh X11-forwarding, it's secured.

Try this command from your box with monitor and keyboard:

$ ssh -X -f my_acc@the_rendering_host xterm

to see if you can get an 'xterm' that is running on
the_rendering_machine but displayed on your local monitor. You can
then start other programs from that xterm (including further xterms)
and start working. No need to go around the VNC path. (VNC is not as
efficient as native X11.)