Willie and Korie live their faith everyday. They’ve adopted children, have their own, and believe what they say. I pray they don’t get tempted by the pleasures of this world, just as I pray I don’t. they’ll have more temptations than I, but we all get tempted. Phil knows just what to say or do to keep Willie, and Jase on the narrow path. Si just had an appearance in Spring, Tx last weekend from a crawfish festival, sponsored by bud light. So, was that wrong, too?

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posted on 04/28/2013 8:17:20 AM PDT
by ro_dreaming
(G.K. Chesterton, Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. Its been found hard and lef)

I honestly believe the Robertsons are a family of faith. Yet faith coupled with today's teachings of many modern main stream denominations does not always equal a conservative political view as shared on Free Republic.

I think the negative reactions from people on this thread come from a couple of things. 1. They are ignorant about the dinner. 2. They beat their chest and like to say “Obama bad” without using brain cells. 3. They don’t realize that CBN invited them. 4. Did they ask the DD folks why they were going? No. 5. They probably like to hide in their homes shouting how everything is bad and probably do nothing to change it, or they just like to throw stones at other people because it makes them feel better.

The "Duck Dynasty" clan is a lot like many American's who are so busy enjoying everything from their "15 minutes of fame" to Dancing with the Stars that they DO NOT HAVE a CLUE as to what they are part of, nor what's happening to America.

[[Accepting an invitation to attend a gala at a White House that is occupied by a man most of their supporters view as the antichrist himself, is just plain stupid.]]

[[Its a simple human dynamic, and people in the entertainment business err terribly when they ignore it]]

Precisely- Jesus when He went to social events went with the itnent of Givign hte sick peopel God’s word (Something that those who are claiming that it’s ok for robertsons to attend a den of thieves murderers and liars because Jesus went to social events simply to party leave out)- I doubt the Robertson’s went to white hosue party for such a purpose

30 And the Pharisees and their scribes began grumbling at His disciples, saying, ‘Why do you eat and drink with the tax-gatherers and sinners?’ 31 And Jesus answered and said to them, ‘It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.’

Actually if they are aware of it I’d be even more impressed they would go. I think your point makes it all the more obvious and it’s not really about the enemy in the White House(which by going doesn’t show support of) but rather it shows the pettiness of people that say they have Christian values. The hate in people’s hearts is the real tragedy here. I think Obama is a disaster, but I’m not going to hold the Robertsons to missing out out a correspondence dinner simply because Obama is in the White House. It’s petty, childish, and just plain sad.

Too bad that Duck Dynasty has to shoulder the obvious down turn in its ratings because of this couples foolishness.

Don't you want to give Willie and his wife an opportunity to respond to the criticism before deciding the show's immediate future? I think the Robertsons' will do well, even when they quit the show. And that may sooner rather than later, possibly due partially to comments such as by some posters on this thread.

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that Willie and Kory attended. It would have surprised me if Phil and Kay or Jase and Missy, had. Willie is all about exposure and marketing while the rest of the family is more into God, family and hunting. I'll continue to watch the show and recommend it to anyone looking for wholesome entertainment.

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posted on 04/29/2013 7:36:15 AM PDT
by liberalh8ter
(The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)

Smart business? Why are you concerned about the well-being of their business? Perhaps the two just wanted to go to see what all the fuss is about. If given two invitations by CBN to attend, and you could afford it, are you 100% positive you would not accept?

Sure they are, and just like you and I, they're free to make whatever boneheaded choices they want to.

The Robertsons have a television show. It's a business. By attending the White House correspondent's dinner, they came very close to touching a third rail in the entertainment business, which is partisan politics.

I haven't even voiced an opinion on what they did. I've only made the observation that it was a poor business move on their part, which it was.

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posted on 04/29/2013 8:19:45 AM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Not true. Entertainers' box office, Nielsen, and record sales suffer when they touch the third rail of partisan politics.

Witness the fate of the Dixie Chicks, whose comments abroad about GWB crashed their music career. Those ladies never recovered from that faux pas.

On the flip side, there are countless insider reports of conservatives in the entertainment business who fly under the radar to protect their careers from being trashed by leftist retaliation for their views.

How many times have you seen Freepers say, "I'll never buy another one of his records" after hearing that some popular recording artist supports the left wing agenda?

How many times have you seen people boycott or support retailers, due to some partisan stance of the company? It happens all the time.

It's just a fact. Many consumers make choices based upon an entertainer's or businesses' political views. Knowing this, astute business people steer clear of the area. I know I do, in my own business. I've actually lost liberal customers when they became aware of my politics.

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posted on 04/29/2013 10:27:56 AM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

come on guys, be real. Why do you like Duck Dynasty in the first place? Probabley for the same reason I do. They bring “real family values” back to a country that seems to have forgotten what it was founded on.

Think about it. Say you went from nothing to a millionaire, and you got a phone call one day from the President and he invited you to the White House, would you say “NO Mr President, I don’t like you so I’m not going to come”. What if your kid had won a state championship and the President had invited his team to the white house, would you tell him that he could not go.

Maybe they, (the Robertsons) will have some kind of positive effect. Just because they are going, or have gone, or whatever, doesn’t mean that they are bad people, cause they are not. I’m just saying that it would be hard for ANYONE to say “NO” to the President.

Ok assuming your last line is correct. I mean isn’t the whole deal with Christian right beating their chest on morals and values by nature not smart business. Are conservatives now the cold and calculating party? I guess I should realize that there are Christians and Conservatives who are both but may lead more to smart business as opposed to morals and values. But I guess what I’m saying is the group that is critical because their of the morals and values lot is hypocritical in the sense that with all that hate in their hearts it clouds their judgment and invokes them to throw stones where no stones need to be thrown.

I also realize that’s a little off your point. I get what you are saying too. I just don’t think as value centered as they appear to be that could give a rip about smart business.

...isnt the whole deal with Christian right beating their chest on morals and values by nature not smart business.

The coin definitely flips both ways.

I very much admire Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby for taking the conservative stands they have, but I know they lost a lot of left-leaning customers because of doing so.

The phrase, "Shut up and sing" comes to mind. Consumers are interested in the products and services that businesses and entertainers provide to them, and are more than willing to pay good money to have them.

What turns them off, is when a business or entertainer steps outside the bounds of that relationship and takes a public stand which they disagree with.

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posted on 04/30/2013 12:06:05 PM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Second with what you said about an entertainer stepping out of bounds, what I find confusing is that it wasn’t like DD people came out and said they were for gay marriage. They simply attended the correspondence dinner on behalf of CBN no less. They didn’t take a stand, all they did was attend a function he was at. For all we know they decided to go and talk about their beliefs and see if they could help change any minds. That’s the troubling part to me.

...what you said about an entertainer stepping out of bounds, what I find confusing is that it wasnt like DD people came out and said they were for gay marriage.

Well, it really wasn't a 'gay rights' event, so I never had any thought about that aspect of it anyway.

In my opinion, the very fact that the Robertsons, who are now known to be (more or less) right-leaning, Christian people, would even think of attending a dinner at a White House occupied by a man who is the polar opposite of the things (I think) they believe in, was kind of stunning.

As to their motivations for attending, I can't assign one at all. I wouldn't know what their reasoning was unless they made a statement of some sort, and I haven't seen one. It's a bit of a mystery to me.

Even more-so, given the fact that most of their fans can't stand Obama.

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posted on 04/30/2013 8:33:10 PM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Nobody knows there motivation due to lack of information. Everyone is jumping to conclusions. To me that makes people look childish.

I don't think people are being childish at all.

Obama is a monster on par with some of the worst despots in history. What would you think of entertainers who partied with Hitler during the pre-war period? There were lots of people who correctly fingered Hitler for the monster he was, and they were duly appalled by famous people who were cozy with him.

Charles Lindbergh was an American celebrity of the day, who spoke approvingly of Hitler, and he wasn't alone. There were lots of mush minded liberals who thought he was just great, and even some decent conservatives were blinded by his hype and propaganda.

Today we can look back with 20/20 hindsight and see how ignorant those people were, but at the time, many people's vision was clouded. Recall that Hitler was even Time Magazine's Man of The Year at one point.

No, I don't think people are going too far in condemning the Robertsons for attending Obama's media shindig. By showing up, they gave the appearance of tacit approval of the regime. Not good, and it's going to be reflected in their ratings.

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posted on 05/01/2013 8:17:20 AM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

Well that’s where we will have to agree to disagree. Comparing Hitler to Obama is sort of like comparing Kittens to Lions. Obviously time could prove me wrong but at this point with the info we have you are making a ridiculous comparison.

Again this tacit approval thing is in again ridiculous. Sort of like saying protestors showing up at Obama rally are giving tacit approval just by showing up.

This kind of distain is what I’m talking about. He is bad for this country, he is a socialist, he “may” want to be a dictator. But this kind of ridiculous hatred is just sad to see. I hope you reflect on that.

I’m not sure what how what I said isn’t civil. Did I call you names? No. If you are calling Obama, Hitler, it’s obvious you have hate in your heart. That’s not an insult. Rather it’s an obvious insult to history and what Hitler did. Again I’ll give you in time I may be proven wrong, but not yet, not now.

You said Obama was on par with the worst depots in history. And then suggested your analogy to Hitler. How did I read that wrong again?

Yes I did, but I didn't ever say they were the 'same'. There are a lot of similarities in their careers, but they're just similarities.

I was making an entirely different point, but it got washed out by my mention of Adolf Hitler. Funny how his name still has so much power after all this time. Let us hope that Obama doesn't cause enough harm to merit similar reactions in the distant future.

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posted on 05/03/2013 4:42:49 PM PDT
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

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