Criminal Charges to Be Brought Against Enrique Marquez, Ex-Neighbor of San Bernardino Shooters

originally posted by: SuperFrog
Good comparison, thank you, why the same rule does not apply to gun industry??

How did the firearms malfunction?

Thanks for asking the question.... because yes, this is intent of those weapons, and clearly background check will not do justice - because just like
posted in OP, they avoided it by having someone else purchase it for then, leaving us with only one conclusion and option that will work - BAN on
weapons like that.

It took bit to get to correct conclusion...

As for Enrique Marquez, he was already checked in mental institution iirc from news. Seems he will play on mental sickness card, that could drop death
sentence. He does deserve to spend rest of life in prison, mentally ill or otherwise...

originally posted by: SuperFrog
Thanks for asking the question.... because yes, this is intent of those weapons, and clearly background check will not do justice - because just like
posted in OP, they avoided it by having someone else purchase it for then, leaving us with only one conclusion and option that will work - BAN on
weapons like that.

Considering the majority of people killed by firearms are with a handgun by a huge margin what purpose does this serve? He could have easily purchased
that type of firearm instead.

Sounds like you will almost say NRA does not have any effects on the law?!

They do not directly make laws, but their puppets, our USA government representatives are making laws that made it impossible to track if someone who
previously purchased asult grade weapon went unstable and should not have it anymore.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
If Marquez legally purchased the firearms years ago and then gave them to Farook then he is the one responsible.

I still think people responsible for production of guns used should be held responsible. Look what happened with airbags that killed people - how is
different with guns that killed people?? Hold them responsible, fine them and use money to prevent further attacks...

Gun-lovers claim that guns are there to keep us safer, which is the same what airbag claimed, and when innocent died, why hold only one responsible
and fine them - just use the same logic and be fair to both industries...

The airbags malfunctioned. If a gun malfunctioned and killed someone then you'd have a comparison.

You're afraid of guns, we get it man. You're letting it cloud and decide your opinion on this matter for you. You're basically giving the neighbor and
the muslim couple a pass so you can blame guns and gun makers and none other than the big bad NRA.

originally posted by: LSU0408
Thankfully the criminals listen to laws and will put away their assault rifles if the law bans them, right?

That is crappy response, because if those guns are not available, then criminals would not be able to get a hold of them, would they??

False rhetoric is just that, false...

No. Your argument is one of false logic. Here are some facts.

As of 2013 some studies show that there are roughly 1.5 - 3.2 million "assault style" rifles owned by American citizens. In 2014, the FBI data shows
only 248 murders committed with rifles (it does not designate how many of these were with "assault style" rifles. For the sake of the argument, lets
say they all were. That means, of the "assault type rifles" owned roughly 0.0001% - 0.00008% were used in a murder.

So your answer is to ban this type of firearm, because .0001% - .00008% have been used in a murder? I think you should stop with the emotional,
illogical, hoplophobic arguments.

That is a lots of labels for simple thinking that more guns are not keeping us safer. (what has been already established)

But according to you and your statistic, nothing to worry, right??

My argument is simple - ban weapons that can be used to kill us... does not sounds so stupid like you made it sound...

On the other hand, your is crappy - compared to other deaths by weapon, assault weapons are minority, thus keep selling them....

I am not trying to be rude, but I am having trouble understanding your response, it seems either rushed, or incoherent - is English not your first
language? (Not being snarky, just asking). Also, even a ban will never get rid of the hundreds of millions of weapons that are out there.

Anyway - I think there are more charges coming related to this attack; I wouldn't be surprised if Farook's mother or other family members also find
themselves charged...

As soon as old Enrique ran and checked himself into a mental health facility, we all knew that he was starting to build a defense. If I was on a jury,
I would assume that this was a ploy suggested by his lawyer. Enrique knew what he was doing when he bought the rifles, which, according to CA law,
were also illegally outfitted.

I think Enrique will end up in a fun-filled Federal prison with a lot of time to study the Koran.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
If I am in a car accident that killed someone, should the Holden car dealer be held to account for making the purchase of the car possible to me?

Car industry IS HELD accountable if reason for death was malfunction of car that lead to death, isn't it???

Good comparison, thank you, why the same rule does not apply to gun industry??

DURH.. because they didnt malfunction durh...... Sheesh your bias.

YOU are not HEARING them tell you WHY its different. AIRBAGS and PRODUCTION ERRORS should be investigated and punished. THE GUNS USED WERE NOT
MANLFUNCTIONING and THEREFORE ARE NOT LIABLE(aka responsible)

originally posted by: SuperFrog
Not sure if playing dumb and mentally sick will help him with this one... I hope not.

Anyone involved in purchase of guns used should be prosecuted... I would go step further - those who made this kind of transactions possible should be
held accountable as well... including NRA.

I agree. And if you let someone borrow your car and they hurt someone both you and Ford should be responsible.

SO the few members who were ATS members if we follow your logic ATS should be held respnsible for their actions as well then right? UNless it was a
MALFUNCTION or WILLFULLY DONE By the Orginization its WRONG to hold them accountable for something they could not control.

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