I hope all the people on the less religious left remember this discussion when
some leftist in Hollywood says or does something a large group doesn't
like, and their life, career and reputation gets destroyed to pander to this
group.

When this happens to someone you agree with and the
religious-right or his employer destroys him... I want you to remember how you
said "it's all fair and fine, it's not like they are throwing him
in solitary for his comment".

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I agree it's
not a first amendment issue, but so many who defend A&E ending his show...
are the same people who expressed OUTRAGE when Larry Miller wouldn't show
Broke Back Mountain in his theater (it's his business, and completely a
decision he has the right to make). But do you remember all the first
amendment complaints from the gay community then??

I think what
happened was OK in BOTH situations (it's A&E and Miller's right to
decide). But be consistent. You can't complain about the Broke Back
decision, and then have no censorship concerns when A&E does the same thing.

You think the Dixie Chicks
weren't expressing moral beliefs when they spoke out against Bush's
policies?? Seriously??

As Reverend Nate Pyle said: "By no means
am I advocating that you don’t say what you believe. But don’t get
graphic with body parts and innuendos and slurs to make your point. Those have
consequences."

Speech has consequences. Don't be surprised
when negative speech has negative consequences.

Tyler: Comparing single blend fabrics to destroying God's construct of
family and eternal progression is hardly coherent. Common sense has been thrown
out the door regarding biological truth, so any "myopoic obsession"
criticism of Christianity regarding gay marriage is unfounded.

I do have a school age child and while teachers do use some
of the words Phil used they do not use them in the same vile context sorry. As
fro California again they do not utilize crude words and context to describe gay
marriage or homosexuality and they do not teach anything I do not already teach
my child.

"Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one
another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions.
They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant
God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are
ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."

-- Phil R.

"But in 2013 it is still perfectly OK for people to publicly state that
queer people are disordered, corrupt, evil beings. And if you call someone a
homophobe for being a homophobe, suddenly you're the bigot....Because while I love homophobes like Westboro for making my job easy, our real
work is uncovering the wicked truth hiding beneath those who claim they love us
while they bludgeon us with their Bibles."-- Noah Michelson

I’m struggling to
understand your point here – mine was, are you (or any religious person)
following ALL of these prescriptions or do you pick & choose based on other
non-religious criteria (like personal prejudice or disgust)?

And yes,
if your “Good Book” says, for example, black people are cursed by
God and thus inferior (either morally or in some larger sense), then yes, you
are a bigot? Hiding your bigotry behind religion does not change that fact.

Re: GLAAD – being made to feel inferior and 2nd class has a funny
way of bringing out the worst in people – not an excuse, just an
explanation.

@bandersen – “Comparing single blend
fabrics to destroying God's construct of family and eternal progression is
hardly coherent.”

I completely agree!

I’ve
been trying to comprehend the incoherence and moral relativism of the Bible for
years and still can’t. Best I can tell “obey God” is about the
only consistent commandment offered.

But that doesn’t stop
believers from beating us over the head with their Bronze Age book…

You say: "Comparing homosexuals to those who are into
"bestiality" is certainly anti-gay."

When did he compare
homosexuals to bestiality? He never did. You are listening to the media and
not reading it for yourself. No where in his comments did he make this
comparison. You are suppose to stop at periods. If not, everything can be
taken out of context. He said that he believed homosexuality was a sin
(Period), then he went on to name other things that he thought were sins, thus
the bestiality comment came in.

I have heard and read the comments and would have no problem if the DN had of
used the language in this article, but likewise respect their choice not too.
Prefacing this response to the article and the DN I will also write that I would
feel the same way about Phil Robertson. His choice of language is suspect, but
what to you expect from somebody who has gained celebrity status for standing up
for what he believes in and being.... uh oh - I have no politically correct
words here to describe Phil Robertson's character without offending his
ancestors, neighbors, family and the like. It should be stated I heard or read
nothing in the interview that I have not heard in a Sociology and Biology class
in high school or college.

Well, being of above 50, born
rural-american, white and somewhat backward I have just got to say - Show em
what us rednecks are made of Bill and take the show to another network!!!!

I find it quite ridiculous when someone quotes the Apostle Paul in the New
Testament and we call that anti-gay. I guess there are also lots of
anti-adulterers , anti-fornicators, anti-Muslim, anti-atheists and so on in the
New Testament. The fact is, Jesus gave commandments and he didn't apologize
in the sermon on the mount or any other platform where he spoke concerning who
he might offend because of his commandments. Commandments in and of themselves
imply a standard that must be met before entrance into heaven is allowed and
those who "choose" to break those commandments will be judged
accordingly by the giver of the commandments. Is that hurtful or offending
somehow? I guess Christianity as a whole is offending because it is anti-sin.
Someone is going to be offended when someone tells them their choice is wrong.
The real question here is do we have to now parse scripture to make sure it
doesn't offend someone or can we still feel free to quote from the bible
without fearing a pink slip in the mail from the word police?

Ranch says, "You don't fire someone for past misdeeds after a contract
is signed; but for continuing behavior..." Go tell that to Paula Dean.

As I have said from the very beginning, no one here who is complaining
has actually read what he said. He never compared homosexuality with bestiality.
He didn't compare homosexuality with terrorists.

Let me be the
first to break the news to the homosexual crowd --- just because I disagree with
your behavior does not mean I hate you nor does it make me a homophobe, bigot,
or whatever name you want to try to call me.

To Christians who
actually read the Bible, homosexuality is a sin. If you do not believe in God,
Jesus or the Bible then move on.

Society does not have to accept or
condone the chosen behavior of homosexuality. On this issue, I stand with Christ
and I also stand with Phil.

ps, no one has been able to show where
Phil was "anti-gay" in his comments. Ya'll should trying reading
his actual words, not just the headlines.

There is a chapter in Larry Millers auto-biography on how the Broke Back
Mountain controversy was handled. Worth reading. (title is Driven) Larry met
with critics and established a dialogue. I don't believe someone just
decides to be homosexual. I am becoming convinced people to some degree are
born that way. I still find same sexrelations abhorrent, however I find nothing
is accomplished by hating people who are different. As President Uchdorf so
eloquently said "don't judge me because I sin differently than
you".

@ Tators:"Gay and Lesbians are constantly asking for tolerance, but
seldom ever offer it to those they are usually addressing... those who perhaps
disagree with them. It's actually quite hypocritical."

I'm not sure what you're asking of them. I've yet to hear any
gays make anti-heterosexual comments or remarks, which is what
"tolerance" in that direction would prevent. Or by tolerance, do you
mean that they should be accepting of hatred directed toward them without
complaint or dissent? The gay people I know are quite accepting of straight
people, which is what one would want when asking for "tolerance."
Tolerance doesn't mean that they have to be okay with people attacking
them, treating them as inferiors or evil-doers, and wanting to run them out of
town, or that they should suffer such attacks in silence without replying or
complaining.

@ - “He said that he believed homosexuality was a sin (Period), then he
went on to name other things that he thought were sins, thus the bestiality
comment came in.”

I think tea party people are bad. (note the
Period)

I also think Nazis, terrorists, slave traders, child
molesters, and the Hussein family (former dictators of Iraq) are bad.

Now I’m not comparing tea party folks to child molesters… just
listing things I think are bad.

Head shaking incredulity and sarcasm
off…

@Eliyahu – “Or by tolerance, do you mean that
they should be accepting of hatred directed toward them without complaint or
dissent?

Great comment!

This word “tolerance”
is strangely confusing to many people – used to be only liberals were
confused by it but when conservatives began adopting the “we’re
victims” (e.g., the war of Christmas) strategy too, they became just as
confused.

Like somehow it syllogistically follows that tolerance
means we must be tolerant of everything, including intolerance.

RE: Tyler D,, Christians cannot ignore our Lord's commands that instruct
us to make judgments. In John 7:24, Jesus said "Do not judge according to
appearance, but judge with righteous judgment ",Here we are clearly
commanded to judge with righteous judgment. E,g..

ye have respect to
him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good
place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my
footstool(James 2:3).

Jesus) Every tree that does not bear good fruit
is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know
them. .(Mt 7:19-20)