Yeah, Obama's endorsements are fail big time. I think he needs to chill for a while. Hell, maybe he should endorse a Tea Party candidate!

I could make a case about Coakley and Spector, but I really don't feel like going there. That is until Firstdown weighs in!!

saden1

05-20-2010 06:40 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

Poor bastard is going to get crushed...hopefully Dino will cut the crap and enter the race...then again who wants to be a 3 time loser?

12thMan

05-20-2010 06:45 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

Yeah after Rand Paul's latetest blunder, I have a feeling that the Tea Party and it's candidates will start to finally come under more scrutiny. But again, that's not what this thread is about:)

Beemnseven

05-20-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

[quote=12thMan;702487]Yeah after Rand Paul's latetest blunder, I have a feeling that the Tea Party and it's candidates will start to finally come under more scrutiny. But again, that's not what this thread is about:)[/quote]

What was Paul's blunder?

I was about to say that with his win the other night, that's a sure sign that the national parties no longer get to dicate to the voters who the candidates will be -- [U]and that's a good thing[/U].

saden1

05-20-2010 08:59 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

How about being against the 1964 Civil Rights Act? You know, the one that bared business from treating black folks like animals?

724Skinsfan

05-20-2010 09:43 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

[quote=Beemnseven;702493]What was Paul's blunder?

I was about to say that with his win the other night, that's a sure sign that the national parties no longer get to dicate to the voters who the candidates will be -- [U]and that's a good thing[/U].[/quote]

From the Rachel Maddow show:[INDENT][B]Maddow:[/B] Do you think that a private business has a right to say that 'We don't serve black people?' [B]

Paul:[/B] I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form. I would never belong to any club that excluded anybody for race. We still do have private clubs in America that can discriminate based on race. Butdo discriminate.
But I think what's important in this debate is not getting into any specific "gotcha" on this, but asking the question 'What about freedom of speech?' Should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent. Should we limit racists from speaking. I don't want to be associated with those people, but I also don't want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that's one of the things that freedom requires is that
we allow people to be boorish and uncivilized, but that doesn't mean we approve of it...
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Beemnseven

05-20-2010 10:44 PM

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Oh good christ. They're after him because of what he said about legislation passed over 40 years ago when he was a year old? :doh:

It looks as though he has problems with the idea of government forcing private businesses to accept customers they don't want to accept -- much like the reasons Barry Goldwater was against the law. Not because he was a racist or that he hated blacks. Mainly that it was not an area where the federal government has any constitutional jurisdiction.

From a strictly libertarian point of view -- can anyone articulate what the difference is between being forced to allow a customer into your private business and being forced to allow someone into your home?

At what point does the question of freedom of association come into this?

Hog1

05-20-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

[quote=Beemnseven;702505]Oh good christ. They're after him because of what he said about legislation passed over 40 years ago when he was a year old? :doh:

It looks as though he has problems with the idea of government forcing private businesses to accept customers they don't want to accept -- much like the reasons Barry Goldwater was against the law. Not because he was a racist or that he hated blacks. [B]Mainly that it was not an area where the federal government has any constitutional jurisdiction.[/B]

From a strictly libertarian point of view -- can anyone articulate what the difference is between being forced to allow a customer into your private business and being forced to allow someone into your home?

At what point does the question of freedom of association come into this?[/quote]
I'm going to pretend I did not read that.....Big Brother not welcome...must be a racist?

Beemnseven

05-20-2010 11:28 PM

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[quote=Hog1;702507]I'm going to pretend I did not read that.....Big Brother not welcome...must be a racist?[/quote]

Yep, this is one of those touchy areas where someone can offer a genuine, reasoned argument that's completely devoid of any racism whatsover, who lays out a case against certain portions of what happens to be a historically popular piece of legislation that signified the end of one of our darkest points, -- and yet still be labelled a racist.

If you speak up for the property rights, speech rights, or freedom of religion of a hated group or individual, then inevitably you [I]become[/I] part of that hated group or individual.

Gotta love the Democratic Party -- playing to the nuanced views of their voters.

tryfuhl

05-20-2010 11:54 PM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

She just can't stand to stay out of the spotlight. She didn't even govern a real state.. and didn't even stay her term. Fuck quitters.

saden1

05-21-2010 03:16 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;702516]Yep, this is one of those touchy areas where someone can offer a genuine, reasoned argument that's completely devoid of any racism whatsover, who lays out a case against certain portions of what happens to be a historically popular piece of legislation that signified the end of one of our darkest points, -- and yet still be labelled a racist.

If you speak up for the property rights, speech rights, or freedom of religion of a hated group or individual, then inevitably you [I]become[/I] part of that hated group or individual.

Gotta love the Democratic Party -- playing to the nuanced views of their voters.[/quote]

Stay on the sideline until you're strong enough and ready to enter a game that requires critical thinking. We wouldn't want you to get a concussions now would we?

p.s. No wonder Libertarians never win any elections...what bunch of silly people.

Beemnseven

05-21-2010 07:13 AM

Re: Sarah Palin Endorses Clint Didier For Senate

[quote=saden1;702540]Stay on the sideline until you're strong enough and ready to enter a game that requires critical thinking. We wouldn't want you to get a concussions now would we?

p.s. No wonder Libertarians never win any elections...what bunch of silly people.[/quote]