The Nexus 6 was a pretty good device when it was released last year, but it was not without its flaws. One glaring issue the phone had was an AMOLED panel with sub-par white balance and color reproduction. Well, it seems the Nexus team heard your complaints and confirmed on Reddit that they have addressed the problem by outfitting this year's flagship, the Nexus 6P, with the latest gen Samsung AMOLED panel.

What's more, they also spent a considerable amount of time fine tuning the white balance and color gamut on the panel to give it the highest amount of accuracy possible. Check out the pertinent information from the Reddit conversation below.

SW: It has a Samsung WQHD AMOLED panel. We have spent a lot of time tuning the white-point and color gamut for these panels - hope you will enjoy the accuracy of the display.

Yep, confirmed: Nexus 6P has the latest generation panels from Samsung. One of things we deeply care for is the quality and accuracy of the display through which all of us connect with the stuff we care about. We created a very tight spec (white-point temperature, delta-E variance, color-space accuracy, etc) for the 6P WQHD AMOLED panel, so it was important that we use the most cutting edge panel technology available.

There you have it straight from the horse's mouth. Or rather, straight from the horse's keyboard. But actually they can't type - because hooves. Well, I guess they can't actually talk either. Forget it, there is no horse (what a stupid idiom). There is, however, a finely tuned current gen Samsung WQHD AMOLED panel in each and every Nexus 6P and that, my friends, is pretty sweet.

I wasn't able to confirm that this is the same panel that is used in the Samsung Galaxy Note 5, but if I find out I'll update the post.

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Okami

verizon user here. by the time they get it, the z6 will be out lol

Peter Silie

The size would fit.

Leonardo Baez

When the phone is finally avaible wait a month or two more to get real users reviews....

Hettor

Not only that but second batches are safer.

BehemothPL

Yes, they come with yellow screen protector.

Dean

Wat

Kenrick Fernandes

and you're not worried about the 810 in it?

Rickyhaze

It's really not as bad as everyone built it up to be.

jr

Yeah, this. Ordered my Google Fi service and Nexus 6P today.

Good_Ole_Pinocchio

Lmao I'm so used to the bad news I could have SWORN that title said "LAST" Gen

yardie

Me too lol

Jeff Beck

Nah, I'm too awesome for bad news.

Major Suave

"I'm too awesome for bad news" - Jeff Beck

whhhaaaaa

Yeah because Samsung is evil and only keeps the latest panels for themselves... wait, WHAT?!

Dan

Pentile confirmed. Hate away.

Matthew DiGiacomo

Note5 has the best display on the market. Who cares.

FrancoMacagno

Isn't Note 5 Super AMOLED? Whats the difference between Super and just AMOLED?

Matthew DiGiacomo

It's SUPER

Brayjr

Branding/Marketing

matteventu

AMOLED is the name of the technology.
SuperAMOLED is the name of a Samsung's implementation of that technology.

Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED display with an integrated digitizer: the layer that detects touch is integrated into the screen, rather than overlaid on top of it.

vzwuser76

^^This, I just looked it up to make sure. I think quality wise the displays between an Amoled and Super Amoled are the same. But with the integrated digitized, you're able to have a thinner device, at least that's how I understand it.

NothingUnknown

Super AMOLED+ was the name of the rgb amoled panels. Now that dpi is so high rgb isn't necessary anymore for clarity.

Dan

I don't but people hate on it anyway even though at that dpi it's unnoticeable

Nathan Bryant

I almost got annoyed by this comment but I understood what you did. Haha. People definitely make themselves unhappy when its not a real issue.

Brendon

But this will suck anyway,just samsung super amoled is good,the screen samsung sell to manufacturers have burn-in in few months and not have a great saturation.

Theo

i've seen burn-in on a galaxy s5 on display in a store 3-4 months after it arrived.

Good_Ole_Pinocchio

I can't possibly imagine a phone having burnin issue in 2015 with daily use. Those store phones are on 247

Abhi

I bet the Kardashians could burn them out 24/7 live recording.

Theo

i doubt the kardasians are using anything else than icrap products. apple would not let them!!!

Simon Belmont

Yeah. I bet the Kardashians could burn out any screen by looking at it for a few seconds.

Bleh. Yuck.

Theo

yes i know and that is probably why it had the burn in. i just said that to point out that even samsung phones are prone to burn in...

Seriously, I worry too because every single Samsung phone on display at bestbuy has crazy burn in.

Choose

Well those displays are literally on 24/7 and set on high brightness. That's just asking for burn-in, however no real consumer is going to keep their screen on 24/7 at high brightness lol. Especially with a repetitive demo video playing.

Jeff

Yes. It will burn in. All AMOLED displays do. It's not just display models; status bar icons and navigation buttons will burn in, not to mention other things you may have open frequently.

Samsung still has hardware back/home/switcher buttons for a reason. You don't get those on the 6P. If going into immersive mode and seeing a triangle, circle, and square burned in on top of your eBook or whatever are going to bug you, don't buy.

Dean

Hah man that kinda made me sad. I just found about this whole new and that we still have this limitations in today's tech.

Voltaic Shock

I really want the Nexus 6P but it has an AMOLED screen. I have had bad luck with those in the past.

Samsung owners are angry for a lot of reasons, but mostly unrelated to the screens.

Nathan Bryant

No burn in on my Note 3. Two years old. I didn't have the issue on previous Samsung devices either.

siveZ

Hope your words are true. My friends Galaxy Nexus' screen completely burned on status and nav bars because of them being static (no translucency or immersive mode because of pre KitKat) in year and a half. It looks terrible.

Nathan Bryant

Now I have heard of the stories of burn in and have seen them before on other peoples devices. Personally I have not experienced it. I do remember it being more of a problem a few years ago, but the technology has evolved so much with Samsungs screens. If it was a major issue, then Galaxy S and Notes would not do so well.

I personally don't know if Samsung held back on their best screens for even the Galaxy Nexus & Nexus S during that time. I can say the Nexus 6 of last year had old tech. A simple glimpse at the screen and I could tell it was nothing like a Galaxy S 5 or Note 4 that came out in the same year. I know there is AMOLED and then there is Samsungs version of it.

All in all, judging from what this article shares it seems like there shouldn't be anything to worry about. *crossing fingers*.

Daggett Beaver

If the Nexus 6 display is inferior it's not necessarily because Samsung held back. Moto could simply have made a deal with Samsung to supply cheaper displays.

Nathan Bryant

I find this unlikely, because you would have to say this for just about every phone that had an AMOLED screen that wasn't a Samsung device. They all were noticeably worse than the ones Samsung used on their own devices. This is nothing new.

Nocturnal

Well seeing as the Galaxy nexus was using SUPER ancient Amoled tech and is old as it is. Of course it's gonna have burn in. Newer Amoled tech is much better.

vzwuser76

My S3 had it after a year, a strip down the right side, from using it in landscape mode.

Simon Belmont

Your S3 was likely using a screen similar to the G'Nex. Both 720p, one phone from late 2011, another from mid 2012.

Not surprising. Really.

Daggett Beaver

My family has 2 S3s, both bought at release and heavily used. No burn-in.

Simon Belmont

My friend had one, too, my sister has a Note 3. No burn in.

I sometimes wonder if people just fell asleep with their faces pressed against the screen all night. Haha.

mcampbell

Not that much better dude, my Nexus 6 has very noticeable burn-in on the navigation and status bars after after owning it for about a year. Preordered my Charcoal 64GB 6P today, already have an RMA setup for the Nexus 6 through the one-year Moto warranty, so I'll get a brand new Moto Nexus 6 backup at the about the same time I get a brand new Huawei Nexus 6P :DDD

Simon Belmont

I owned a G'Nex and it never did burn in. Not doubting your story, though.

Samsung's newer screens are not nearly as prone to this burn in. They know what they're doing with screens (often voted the best).

sdaf

Pissed off LG fan here:(

pol

I read the title quickly as "[Confimed] Nexus 6P has *last* gen Samsung AMOLED Panel" and almost yelled "f**k" aloud

Tim R.

I kept reading it that way too until I got to the article and finally read it as latest.

maverick7526

Too late already yelled f++k out loud! Had to reread the title about 8 times before it clicked....lol

skjdksdjg

Well if was the same as in Note 4 I would be completely satisfied, so whatever

Isn't v2.1 the 3rd version?
I'm not sure, but I thought it was v1,v2 and v2.1.

Major Suave

No horse :)

Leandro Brandão

finally a good amoled panel for a non samsung device.

Peter Silie

Makes me super mad that they put all the best stuff into a device that's way too big for me... why can't we just have a reasonably sized Nexus device with the best hardware as well? I mean, come on, the price of the N5X would justify way better hardware.

AbbyZFresh

Looks like Samsung just lost an advantage for their Galaxy S6 and Note 5 devices. They were top class screens over all the other phones.

blanco112

Well they are selling all the screens so win-win.

Daggett Beaver

Samsung doesn't care. They still make lots of money. And nothing compares to the Note 5 and Edge Plus. The 6P doesn't even come close to being real competition.

Simon Belmont

How? Samsung is selling screens and making money either way.

Do you think Samsung thinks it's lost anything when it sells Apple its RAM? No, it laughs all the way to the bank.

Pepé Sastré

I dont get this... Everyone claimed the S6 had the best display in the market and that it didnt matter anymore if it was pentile but i think pentile colors are worse than rgb amoled displays, why am i saying this? Because i own a S6 Edge(Pentile) and a Galaxy Tab S 10.5(RGB) and my tab S has way better and more natural colors thab my S6.. either way, finally a Nexus thats worth upgrading my S6 and Nexus 5 because the nexus 6 was a big fail with both pricing and specs.

MaxPower27

It's been empirically shown that the GS6 has the most accurate display on the market. Just because a particular display has colors that subjectively look better to your eyes doesn't make them objectively more accurate.

Tony T.

More accurate than the G4? I thought the G4 covered a wider range of colors and had higher accuracy? Never really researched into it, but I've seen both phones and both have great displays (although, I personally liked the G4 better)

MaxPower27

Don't buy into LG's hype. The color temperature of the G4's display skews to the cool side, and accuracy in general isn't as good as Samsung's latest. Again, something that subjectively looks better to your eye may not objectively be as good.

Tony T.

I thought Samsung's displays tend to oversaturate, though. I'll have to see if I can compare them side by side. Yeah, it doesn't matter when it comes to subjective tastes, but it generally seems true for Samsung from devices I've seen. Hmm..

There are different settings on the S6 so even if you think its over saturated you can adjust it.

Major Suave

Was done empirically before the LG came out so one would have to conduct new tests to actually know.

Tony T.

Didn't even catch the date difference. But yeah, between the G4, S6, and seemingly the 6P, you can't really go wrong. They all seem like they have excellent panels in them :) So pumped to move from 1080p LCD on my N5 to the 1440p AMOLED display on the 6P.

person

False. The G4's display isn't calibrated to sRGB. They calibrated it to a different standard that no content you'll come across is based on so they could have something that sounds fancy on the spec sheet.

Pepé Sastré

Well, not only to me, ive asked a few persons irl which one looked more natural and they all agreed that the Tab S 10.5 QHD RGB AMOLED looks more natural than the S6E Pentile display.

MaxPower27

I understand, but again, you're talking about someone's subjective opinion vs the objective reality of the display.

Lman146

And to think... all these hands on articles saying "it's a beautiful display, not quite as good as the S6 or Note 5 but still really good." I could swear I read some form of that line in 3 or 4 different hand-on articles.

ithehappy

Crap! Can't believe Huawei has gone all the way through with this phone. Same panel as Note 5? You must be kidding me. I will still wait for DisplayMate's result, but this is really a good news, I mean for the owners.

Dean

Potential owners

WitnessG

Is there a reason the Frost 6P is not available for 32gb? I really like how it looks but I don't need 64gb and can't justify spending 50 bucks just for a color.

jonathan3579

I'm guessing it's sold out. I am pretty sure they were all available yesterday.

Troy Mitchell

From what I saw the 32GB Frost was never available.

Rafy286

Now they just need to match the DPI setting in the Note 5 and I could say goodbye to my laggy Note 5. I cant wait.

SpasilliumNexus

So there goes the assumption that Samsung always keep their latest gen displays to themselves, I guess.

The Nexus warrior in me wants to return my Pure for the 6P, but the rounded back and feel of it, and Moto Voice is just amazing.

vzwuser76

I think up until this point that was correct. I know the amoled panels on the Motorola devices have always been their last gen units. However they may have gone with them as a cost cutting measure as well.

I'm looking at picking up a Moto XPE, but wanted to wait until the Nexus announcement. Not real impressed with the 5x since it's basically the same thing with a smaller screen, no expandable storage, and a smaller display, but it does have a fingerprint scanner, even though at this point I'm not interested in that. The 6p is aa more comparable device, but I've never owned a Huawei and I'm always leery of new brands, plus I prefer the looks of the XPE. So I think I'm still gonna go with it.

Daggett Beaver

Like I said above, I told you so. ;)

Axel

Same here, have a Pure and this looks awesome, but then again Moto features are amazing, I never had a Moto device, this is my first one but I already use all their features, can't go without them. So I'm keeping it, plus the bezels are sexy on the Pure as well as my wooden back with champagne. Gotta admit tho, this Nexus 6P went from ugly to damn I want it! Lol

Daggett Beaver

Now you know how Samsung users feel. They love the features and don't want to sacrifice them for "Pure Android". Same thing, different set of features.

Axel

I never hated on Samsung fans, I don't like their UI tho I used a Galaxy S6 Edge and ended selling it to buy the Pure. But yeah Pure Android does need some nice additions

Choose

I'm selling my S6 Edge for the 6P. I'm so sick of this phone, and quite frankly..I miss flat displays.

Nathaniel V

I loved my pure too. However, the voice features seemed choppy and the battery was just so so. Have to admit, for me the looks are the only thing that made me wasn't to keep it after seeing the 6p features. Most of the moto features are available on the new nexus.

Lolit

Okay, a question. Is there a difference between Note 4 and Note 5 display? In the AmA he keeps telling that N6P has a WQHD display (which both Note 4 and Note 5 has) and says it's the latest one. If the Notes have the same display, what makes the Note 5 screen better? Accuracy, efficiency, brightness?

Unless you have your phone on full brightness and a single image continuously showing 24/7, then you won't have burn in. Especially with the more newer AMOLED panels.

Simon Belmont

I agree. I knew someone who accidentally set her old Samsung Fascinate to turn off the screen after 15 MINUTES, and it burned the status bar into it in a matter of months (she literally put it back in her purse with the screen on, *facepalm*).

No issues with my G'Nex. Looking forward to going AMOLED again since it's been a while, even though I am an IPS fan, too.

No surprise there, with their phones selling below expectations they have enough laying around to sell to other oems.

mrjayviper

still overpriced outside of the US

Daggett Beaver

Just FWIW, because it's Samsung's latest gen AMOLED doesn't mean it's the same display they use in the Note 4/5 or Edge Plus. Those are SAMOLED displays, which have the touch digitizer integrated into the display. If the 6P is using regular AMOLED, then they have the digitizer laying on top of the AMOLED display.

On the other hand, they could be using SAMOLED or some other means of integrating the digitizer, and just call it AMOLED. It isn't a trademark thing, though, because Meizu is calling their Samsung displays Super AMOLED.

Major Suave

I came here half expecting a pentile hate fest but I found a Jeff Beck quote fest. Delighted.

Daggett Beaver

Pentile is only bad when non-Nexus phones use it.

Jeff Beck

I hope you weren't terribly disappointed.

Major Suave

I actually had a great time and spent a disproportionate amount of time reading the comments.

BehemothPL

This year they ship 6P in yellow box, so you can quickly adapt to yellow screen :)

85kw__life

So does this mean the new nexus has the same display as the note 5? Cause thats a Super amoled, and this didnt state anywhere whether or not its the same one as that, or just a current gen amoled display which samsung makes.

Jeff Beck

"I wasn't able to confirm that this is the same panel that is used in the Samsung Galaxy Note 5, but if I find out I'll update the post."

Sigh. I was hoping to grab a 5x, its defenatly better looking than the 6p but... i will not buy an ips display. So i guess i have to spend 900 AUD for the uglier back but better display.

Daggett Beaver

Seeing as there are no other phones for sale in Australia, I guess those two are your only choices.

junnyest

Note5 panel?I don't think so!

godutch

If you at the price it could very well be possible, the 6p costs almost as much as the s6 edge+ over here

charlie Jason

I have had this quite interesting thought process with the Nexus 6P, and I bet a lot of people have had this as well:

Initial Leak: that black camera bar is just not acceptable.
More Leak: Damn that premium metal body is just plain sexy. Camera bar not that bad either. Gorilla Glass 4 ftw, 3450 mAh awesome. 1440p AMOLED sounds great. (secretly worrying about over saturation, inaccurate color and awful white point like Nexus 6)
Even More Leak: 1.55 microns pixels plus 12MP??? This feels almost too good to be true. (iPhone 6s has the same 12mp but only 1.22 microns Samsung Note 5 has 16mp but pathetic 1.12 microns)
Price Reveal: $499??? 32GB starting storage? Killer value!
Final leak before launch: No OIS? Oh come on! It was like so close to perfection!
Officially Launched: Everything almost perfected, USB 3 based type C is welcome, unlike USB 2. (looking at you Oneplus) Camera still great without OIS.
AND NOW: latest gen AMOLED on a non Samsung phone??? This has to be an industry first! According to Google, it's well calibrated and tuned as well!!!

This whole process was just a constant internal struggle with myself, but now I am in love with it. Almost everything besides the lack of OIS is perfect, simply a phone that is hard to admire.

godutch

649 euro starting price, you can scratch the killer feature of the list in Europe (s6 edge+ is 689 euro)

charlie Jason

I'm sorry to hear that European prices are always awful.

Yeah_Whatever..

They arent always, jut for Nexus devices. Probably why we dont buy them so much.

charlie Jason

Google seems completely uninterested in any market other than North America, as those prices are just insulting.

chickeee

$750 CAD for 64 Gb :(

Dean

M8 its 999 in Australia 210 more than conversion.... FUCK

gilahacker

It's USB 2, not 3.

charlie Jason

Yeah I saw that as well. I heard it was USB 3 from some place but I guess no.
Still a great phone though, especially with that amazing screen.

Steve Freeman

I've actually seen it reported here within the last couple days (post-release) that it's USB 3. Source?

Yeah, I saw the same thing maybe 30 minutes after I posted that... It sucks, but it's not the end of the world for me. I don't do THAT many data transfers to/from my phone.

gilahacker

IIRC, the Google Engineers who helped designed the Nexus phones confirmed it in their AMA on Reddit.

Normann

Not sure an accurate screen is particularly a key point on a mobile device.

All day long, we watch it in completely uncontrolled and very different environments: from bright sunlight to about completely dark before going to sleep, and going through various kinds of artificial lighting.

Throw adaptative brightness into the mix (possibly through apps allowing sub-zero like Lux), and, talking about "color reproduction" doesn't make much sense to me...

Having better up to date technology is always good, I agree. But the color accuracy argument on a phone?

AsterMK

If it's latest gen, that means that it's probably the same, or very similar, to the Note 5's panel. Which is GREAT. The 6P is quickly becoming the phone of the year.

Đức Thành

I hope it doesn't burn in.

Yeah_Whatever..

'Latest' doesnt mean best, it might mean their newest 2nd tier panel.

charlie Jason

Hopefully not 2nd tier.
But even if it is 2nd tier, a good calibration (which Google claimed that they have done) will still make the colors vibrant yet true to life.

Choose

FUCK YEAH.

Fatal1ty_93_RUS

Ugh, AMOLED? Even more of a reason to not buy this device then

charlie Jason

Apparently you have heard nothing about Note 5 being empirically proven as having the best display on any smartphone.

Fatal1ty_93_RUS

I still hate the oversaturation AMOLED displays have, too much fucking contrast

Choose

You can change the modes of saturation in settings.

Fatal1ty_93_RUS

Is that a system-wide toggle? I thought those options only applied to photo/video viewing

Choose

Most definitely! You're able to do that on the S6 models and Note line. I also believe there's an option to change saturation on the Moto X Pure and that phone doesn't even have an AMOLED display.

Oh yeah. By the way, the Note 5 has 3 different color profiles. The default one is a bit oversaturated but the other two are incredibly accurate in color representation.

charlie Jason

Have you even seen the Note 5 in person? It is no longer oversaturated at all, as it has the smallest amount of delta E variation out of any phone, meaning it can produce the closest thing to what the colors are meant to be. Also, if you are saying that oversaturation is related to contrast, then you are confusing these two aspects of display panels. Contrast is the ratio between brightest white and darkest black. IPS displays are unable to produce true black as they rely on backlight and color panel. Whereas AMOLED displays are able to turn off the pixels that are supposed to represent black, producing actual true black.

Display quality is judged by the screen ability to produce the closest thing to the way the colors are meant to be, and the latest generation of AMOLED is the best out of any smartphone.

No, I haven't. But my general impression towards AMOLED displays wasn't so good. Didn't like how they displayed the colors on Samsung devices
Thanks for the link by the way

charlie Jason

Take a look at it at a store if you happen to pass by.
AMOLED display technology has evolved a lot since its early days. I have a Note 1 and a S4 and I can tell you first hand that the colors are really off and don't look natural at all. But when I took a look at a S6 a few months ago, it was quite amazing. Rich and vibrant yet true to life. And this along with other benefits that come with AMOLED like power efficiency and true black make it the best display on the market.
Multiple tech reviewers and review sites, from strictly technical ones like DisplayMate to more average consumer ones like MKBHD have praised first the S6 and then the Note 5 as having the best displays out there. Technologies evolve, and AMOLED really is the way to go now.

ratheesh

nice post, thanks for the info

Jake Passafiume

why would i want an amoled display, i want a super amoled display. my nexus 6 has a brightness issue and the nexus 6p hasn't solved that problem