Gwen had another interview on ABC’s Good Morning America on Monday, detailing new information about the aftermath of their 2015 split. It’s not super controversial, just kinda sad. Gwen has always been super likeable and just seems like a woman who wants to be loved and raise a family. Here are the highlights:

On her divorce: “I felt like I was so … I was so kind of … I felt like … I can’t even find the words,” Stefani, 46, told Lara Spencer of their devastating breakup. “Oh, my God. I was embarrassed. Like, ‘I can’t go down. This is not who I am. I’m not going to fail.’ I had to make something good out of it, so I tried to write, because I know that that was my gift. And I was like, I’m gonna do this. I’m going to make this into music.”

On making her third studio album, This Is What the Truth Feels Like: “It was magic. There was magic in the room. I was put in the studio by my label. I didn’t care about anything,” she said. “I was just literally trying to get up in the morning. I just want to write a record, and I don’t care about anything else except for getting this out and healing and being honest and real and truthful. I don’t care what style it is. Or being on the radio or charts, anything. Like, why would that matter to me at this point? Nothing matters except trying not to die.”

On the future: “It’s still painful. I’m looking at the pieces and going, what is happening?” Stefani confessed. “There’s so many great things, but it’s still super hard to have your family break up. What do you do after that? Here we are, we’re doing it.”

The No Doubt frontwoman has been dating Shelton since last October, and things seem to be going well for them, both romantically and in terms of Gwen’s writing:

On writing Make Me Like You: “That song was one of my favorites to write. It just came out,” she dished. “I had been feeling that way. It’s just exactly what I felt that day … I miss you right now, here it is. Everybody in the room was kind of, like, whoa, this is happening right now. It was written fast — 10, 15 minutes the whole thing just done.”

It has been a crazy year for Gwen. And while her new relationship seems out of left field, I’m glad she’s happy and making music.