NoChops wrote:cant knock what he has done in the ring..but even if he ends with a 40something-0 i dont think we can call him the greatest

Yea, i'm not knowledgable enough about the sport to even have the discussion.

I just know that being there live is about as electric an atmosphere as you can experience in sports. I went to that Mayweather fight and I saw Roy Jones Jr fight some dude named Clinton Woods in Portland as well. I dont think either one of them were even title fights (the Roy Jones Jr one might have been?), but man, as far as electricity in the building they were right up there with the very best Seahawks games i've been too.

Ali fought everyone. Herns v Hagler, Hagler v Sugar, Sugar v Duran, Herns v Sugar, Sweat Pea v Chavez. From 2008 to 2010 "the fight" should have happened but money, drug testing, and other posturing got in the way. Now its lost and we can only say what if? Kinda sad really.

Decent fight, Guerrero came out and held his own first 2 rounds though proved Mayweather was just getting warmed up. After about round 4 could easily tell Mayweather would win easily. As much as I loathe the guy, he's pretty dominant and put on a clinic - especially considering he's 36.

Too darn bad we'll never get to see him and Pacquio in the ring togethor. Still small chance they may still fight a year or 2 down the road, but nothing like it woulda been if they had say 2 years ago. Which I think Pacquio coulda won.

Mayweather would have beat Pacquio. Would have been one of the greatest matchups in the history of boxing. They should be on their third fight coming up, but instead Mayweather's happy making $40M off a cupcake.

I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

People like/love both for their own reasons, but when it comes down to it boxing/baseball is the past and UFC/football is the future. With that said I enjoy all the sports, it's just the talent pool in boxing is not their anymore, which is sad.

No respect of Mayweather, all he cares about is $ and acts like some kind of thug or rapper, don't beat your wife and you wont lose everyones respect.

People like/love both for their own reasons, but when it comes down to it boxing/baseball is the past and UFC/football is the future. With that said I enjoy all the sports, it's just the talent pool in boxing is not their anymore, which is sad.

No respect of Mayweather, all he cares about is $ and acts like some kind of thug or rapper, don't beat your wife and you wont lose everyones respect.

People like/love both for their own reasons, but when it comes down to it boxing/baseball is the past and UFC/football is the future. With that said I enjoy all the sports, it's just the talent pool in boxing is not their anymore, which is sad.

No respect of Mayweather, all he cares about is $ and acts like some kind of thug or rapper, don't beat your wife and you wont lose everyones respect.

I don't think either are things of the past. Its actually way simple to figure out. Americans aren't the best anymore.

As far as the "rapper/thug" act. Its just that. Its a marketing thing. He started it about when he went with De La Hoya. Before he was Pretty Boy Floyd fightingbthe Shamba Mitchells of the world in cities like Portland and if IRCC that wasn't even on PPV. Now under his new brand he is one of the biggest PPV draws if not the biggest. As far as UFC his numbers CRUSH UFC PPV numbers by a landslide.

I also and neither do you know enough about him beating his wife to make anybreal judgement on it. I've seen too many he said she saids and he be punished. My guess is if that is a reason for you to dislike him I'd bet you didn't like him that much to begin with.

@Pe. His fights are not borrowing if you enjoy the Sweet Science. He and Hopkins have been two of my favorites to watch.

Agree Cali, I LOVE watching Bhop and Floyd. Although, BHop's more a grinder/hustler in the ring, still great just different.

My DREAM fight for Floyd would be Sergio, but the weight differential would make Floyd a sure loser. Canelo may cause some issues for Floyd. I LOVE Amir, the person and fighter, but he wouldn't stand a chance.

Shaz wrote:I don't see Canelo doing much against Floyd, his stamina is very suspect and I don't know how he would handle someone as defensively elite and much faster than him with great counterpunching

You're right, BUT, I envision something very similar to the Sergio/Chavez Jr fight. IF, and its a big IF, Canelo could hang a bit, he could lean on Mayweather enough to get at least 1 round to wail away.

FWIW, what Garcia did to Chavez Jr, is the best exhibition of skill I've seen in YEARS. If you haven't seen that fight, watch it. The whole fight's great...and the 12th round was the best round of 2012.

Well, Chavez Jr isn't even on the same planet Garcia is, but he's a large middle-weight. Canelo, same thing, he enters every fight 20lbs heavier than his opponents. That makes up for most boxing differences.

Shaz wrote:I don't see Canelo doing much against Floyd, his stamina is very suspect and I don't know how he would handle someone as defensively elite and much faster than him with great counterpunching

You're right, BUT, I envision something very similar to the Sergio/Chavez Jr fight. IF, and its a big IF, Canelo could hang a bit, he could lean on Mayweather enough to get at least 1 round to wail away.

FWIW, what Garcia did to Chavez Jr, is the best exhibition of skill I've seen in YEARS. If you haven't seen that fight, watch it. The whole fight's great...and the 12th round was the best round of 2012.

you mean sergio martinez. yeah that was a crazy fight with chavez jr. but at his age, a catch weight fight with floyd could be a disaster. he almost (and probably should've) lost against murray a few weeks ago.

danny garcia would be my pick for floyds next fight. canelo needs to develop some more and khan is the atlanta falcons of boxing.

pehawk wrote:Agree Cali, I LOVE watching Bhop and Floyd. Although, BHop's more a grinder/hustler in the ring, still great just different.

My DREAM fight for Floyd would be Sergio, but the weight differential would make Floyd a sure loser. Canelo may cause some issues for Floyd. I LOVE Amir, the person and fighter, but he wouldn't stand a chance.

Completely different B-hop and Money. I was just speaking to most think both are incredibly boring to watch. I find masterful technicians. Very different technicians but for me watching the dominance and superior skill level and "ring generalship" is a joy.

Right now I don't see a fight for Floyd. Sergio is a mismatch size. He's going to fight in November so there is time for someone to emerge.