Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 2/15/2012 3:57 PM, Rob Windsor wrote: > > I've poked around Lantronix, Digi, and Cyclades (Avocent), but all > > of > > their offerings are embedded with linux so that they can receive > > ssh. > > Is that a problem?

On Feb 15, 2012, at 20:24 , Chris Fowler wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 19:08 -0600, Rob Windsor wrote: >> >> It immediately doubles the price tag, so yeah. > > How did you come to that conclusion? Just go on eBay and buy old stuff.

Some people want/need to buy "new" equipment. In this economy, it's nice to be able to buy things off of eBay, and I do that for myself personally, but a lot of companies have requirements that things are bought through channels, and from businesses, etc etc. His conclusion is likely based simply on looking at new equipment from suppliers. And an understandable likelihood. Not very many people are making "dumb" or "simple" anything these days.

windsor [at] warthog said: > Ideally, I'd get a wad of Cisco AS-2511-RJs, but I'd rather buy > new-manufacture equipment. > > Anyone got a lead on the modern equivalent? > > I've poked around Lantronix, Digi, and Cyclades (Avocent), but all of their > offerings are embedded with linux so that they can receive ssh.

We've been using the Perle JetStream 8500 (48-port version). While that's discontinued, there is a similar product under their "IOLAN" product line. Some have the "smart console server" functionality, but some do not, e.g.:

These can optionally be used with driver software on your "conserver" machine which talk to genuine Unix tty's, which in turn are mapped via reverse-telnet to ports on the terminal server. That's how we use it here.

> On Feb 15, 2012, at 20:24 , Chris Fowler wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 19:08 -0600, Rob Windsor wrote: >>> It immediately doubles the price tag, so yeah. >> How did you come to that conclusion? Just go on eBay and buy old >> stuff. > Some people want/need to buy "new" equipment. In this economy, > it's nice to be able to buy things off of eBay, and I do that for > myself personally, but a lot of companies have requirements that > things are bought through channels, and from businesses, etc etc. > His conclusion is likely based simply on looking at new equipment > from suppliers. And an understandable likelihood. Not very many > people are making "dumb" or "simple" anything these days.

dingdingding.

I already have two (or more, depending on how far I dig) terminal servers at home for personal use, one of which is a Cisco 2511RJ. ;) (this is also an answer to Chris Fowler's comment later in this thread)

This is for work. We're not buying out-of-production gear. (I love my job)

Primarily, we need serial access to network gear at remote sites for times when they "go off the reservation". We had a pair of ShoreTel SG90s in Ontario, Calif that were giving us grief last week, for example.

Several folks have recommended Opengear (OpenGear? opengear?) off-list, so that's where I'm leaning.

+1 opengear. I bought a 48 port cm4000 a while back and for a long time, I had it on the open Internet at a datacenter without a proper administrative network. I am not recommending that, of course, but I was careless and I didn't get burnt. I like it when good, up-to-date equipment can cover for me like that. (It's now behind my firewall on the very private network with the old Cyclades TS-3000 stuff I've got, and accessed through conserver.)

I think I paid $1700 or so using the opengear recommended vendor without trying to negotiate. Looks like it's closer to two kilobucks now, but still, a reasonable per-port cost if it's for work.

I mean, it is still an embedded Linux box with a bunch of serial ports, but if your only objection to that was price, the Opengear is cheaper than the just the support contract you need to get access to firmware for anything made by cisco. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users [at] conserver https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users