Sony Is Working Towards “a Future Where Consoles Could Disappear” as it Tackles Cloud Gaming

While Sony Computer Entertainment is enjoying massive success with the sales of the PS4, having recently surpassed ten million units sold through to customers, there’s an arm of the company that is working on a future vision where consoles might not be necessary anymore, as reported by the online version of the prominent Japanese newspaper Nikkei Shinbun.

Nikkei talked with Director of SCE’s Strategy and Product Planning Department Hideaki Nishino and Deputy Director Shuzo Kikuchi, in order to get their vision of the future as they work on PlayStation Now.

Nishino-san mentioned that they’re “working in anticipation of a future where gaming consoles could disappear,” explaining that mobile gaming has created a fierce competitive environment for consoles, and the evolution of cloud gaming has made them somewhat unnecessary. That’s why they’re currently imagining how gaming could be in the era of the cloud, and studying how gamers play and their purchasing habits.

Kikuchi-san also explained that there has been resistance internally due to the fact that PlayStation Now could be seen as conflicting with the business model built by Sony based on the sale of consoles, but he clarified that “Sony Computer Entertainment’s business is not selling gaming consoles, but its essence is to sell video game content, which makes the decision to deliver said content through the cloud important.”

According to Kikuchi-san they saw the potential conflict with cloud gaming coming, and with the acquisition of Gaikai, they accelerated the project even further to challenge the conflict by actually taming it. With just two years in development to its actual implementation, PlayStation Now has taken shape “faster than ever before.”

He also mentioned that he wants the system to be perfect, and admitted that with the quick response of the market the initial reaction of the costumers in North America hasn’t been positive, but Nishino-san explained that the impossibly fast evolution of Gaikai served as a stimulus to those working on it at Sony Computer Entertainment and created a sense of general activation internally.

It’s relevant to mention that Nishino-san and Kikuchi-san did not provide a time frame for this future they envision, and it could definitely be years until it comes fully to fruition, but personally I hope that despite the evolution of cloud gaming, there will always be room in the market for physical consoles.

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I couldn’t do that, but hopefully game consoles won’t ever disappear completely. Maybe they’ll become optional. I’d be ok with that.

Nicholas Perry

When that happens, guess i’ll go PC only. And if PC does the same thing. Welp, guess I’m outta here.

Rower

I was thinking the same.

Budgiecat

there’s always women!

3rdworldgamer

i’m with you on that, will need to find a new hobby when that day comes

Delsin Boss

sports maybe? maybe drinking too much? lol

3rdworldgamer

knitting… probably… lol

Delsin Boss

lol. you are not a woman my friend, are you ? 😀

BlackestNight63

Men knit as well lol.

3rdworldgamer

i’m a guy dude… knitting just came into my mind, thought it was funny 😀

Ice

Time to brush up on my meth-cooking skills.

Sexy Mcgee

Nah, somebody else will come in and fill the vacuum. Don’t worry about a dedicated box going away.

Young Franky

you kno… as soon as i seen this article i said the same thing.

Fersay Ferrera

well..If this daty comes, I will come back to Nintendo gaming.:)

TRICO

I hope that day never comes…

“”Sony Is Working Towards “a Future Where Consoles Could Disappear” as it Tackles Cloud Gaming””

R.I.P gaming it was an honor.

Aquadysseus

You’d think that this would be the last thing to be worrying about when your console just hit the 10 million sales mark within the first year of being on sale. That kind of proves that the market for console gaming is a fruitful one to be a part of.

CarlJunior2014

Playstation Vita 2.0 –the functionality of the vita with true unlimited high speed internet. A cheap monthly service for now.

Four shoulder buttons, new upgraded hardware to allow the same social features of the ps4. Better battery life, internal 128 gb memory, no proprietary expensive crap, bigger face buttons.

MrFinalgamer

How would 4 shoulder buttons make for a small enough handheld to carry with you?

CarlJunior2014

A controler is only big because of all the motors inside the controler. Yet the ps4 is still small enough to carry with you. Complex games require more buttons as well as back catalog. The back panel just didn’t work as a replacement

s4ndm4n2006

I hope you meant ps vita, not ps4 o.O I am not about to try to carry my ps4 anywhere XD

Temitope David O.

i could design a better vita on a napkin.
the 3ds is just more ergonomic.

They Call Me Senpai

No it isn’t, the Vita is far easier to handle.

Temitope David O.

You might have small hands and/or thumbs

They Call Me Senpai

No, my hands are pretty big. The 3DS isn’t hard to hold or anything, I just have an easier time holding the Vita and so do most of my friends.

Temitope David O.

Sorry then, i don’t

Temitope David O.

i meant the 3ds xl btw

NeoTechni

3ds has flat edges whereas vita is all rounded
Vita is objectively more ergonomic by default.

Temitope David O.

i meant the 3ds xl, not the small one

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

A square form is more ergonomic compared to the design of the vita that wraps around your fingers? You don’t seem to understand the word ergonomic. It is better designed because your fingers can be more naturally placed. Also the 3DS doesn’t have dual analog sticks? Because of that one reason, it loses by default on design.

I’m not favoring one console over another but it doesn’t matter if you meant the 3ds xl that thing is no where near ergonomic. Boxy flip up design is down right awkward to hold after after a few minutes of playing. The top screen angle and weight distribution makes it un-even. The vita how ever with its rounded body fits in the palms of my hand and my index finger rest nicely around the curve onto the shoulder buttons.

Alter

If they somehow combine a PSVita (2.0) and an Xperia = PSVierra. 😀
I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Kinggreymon

I would rather boycott sony.

SkinnyAssGamer

why? for you can crawl into the arms of Microsoft and get screwed over after screw after screw over? have fun with that.

Kamille

time to start moving to PC then. I will never trust Sony with my digital games. Especially after I got my PSN account hacked 3 times on the same week a couple of months ago with a few hundreds of dollars of games in it and they couldn’t do anything. They are lucky I have no money to waste suing them.

superkarma

You couldn’t sue them regardless, since it’s your responsibility to put a decent password on your account. Don’t blame Sony for something that’s out of their control.

The same thing happens on virtually every platform/service. Plenty of people have had their XBL accounts phished/”hacked” just the same. Those who are careless with their passwords/account info will get taken advantage of.

SkinnyAssGamer

you got hacked because your an idiot. Next time come up with a good password, good sign in id, actually use an email that you don’t use for anything else besides gaming. don’t give your personal info out. etc. Have a nice day. next time don’t be an idiot. its not Sony’s fault why you got hacked son, its your idiotic mind that can’t come up with a good password unless its “12345” Sony can’t be accountable for all your mistakes, own up to them yourself idiot.

yardis

I don’t want anything to do with cloud gaming. If I can’t download my game and have it on a hard drive I don’t want it. The only way I would be on board is if there is no other choice. So PC, Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony all have to do this or I will move to a platform that doesn’t have this.

Natan Cifuentes

It’s funny, a few years ago I didn’t like downloading games, prefer hard copies. Next thing I know I’m buying a 500GB hard drive for my ps3. First thing I’m doing with my ps4 is upgrading it to a 1TB. I’m keeping an open mind to this but would still prefer a physical game console.

yardis

I didn’t like downloading games either. Right now I have a 2 tb hard drive in my PS4, and every single game I have is digital. My problem with cloud gaming is not cloud gaming itself, it’s the isps. Until we have services like google fiber everywhere, cloud gaming will never catch on. I

Axe99

I do find it odd how on one hand people can talk about the power of the cloud replacing local processing, and on the other people complain about the difference between 30fps and 60fps. You’d literally need servers in every city delivering local content, combined with robust local network infrastructure, and we’re a long way off both. It probably will eventually happen, though, so it’s good they’re thinking about it. For reference, a ping of 20 (a decent local ping, you can sometimes find games with less on good local servers) is 20ms, which isn’t that much more than the 16ms difference between 30fps and 60fps. If they could get the responsiveness reliably down to 20ms, then I’d probably be happy with it (as I’m generally happy with 30fps).

Delsin Boss

no thanks sony ……

Lennox

I won’t even say a word. It would be too easy.

http://paranoimia.co.uk Paranoimia

If that happens, I’m out. I don’t want compressed video and potential lag in a single player game if the net gets busy or my provider decides to cap or reduce my speed because they think I’m consuming to much bandwidth.

And even more simple than that, I don’t want to be in a position where I’m required to have an internet connection to be able to play any games at all.

Temitope David O.

Then what would happen to building collections of games to share with friends/family and future generations?
Seriously, internet connections aren’t that widespread nor are they quick enough.
I hope they’re talking about like 20-30 years from now.
AND EVEN THEN, physical gaming will still reign supreme.
TOO HELL with digital gaming

HOW can you own something, AND TRULY OWN IT, without; holding it, licking it, rubbing it on your body, naming it, ETC. PHYSICAL 4 LIFE.

Temitope David O.

Downvote

Rower

He’s a creep.

Temitope David O.

How astute

Fersay Ferrera

lol. good one!

Big Boss

I feel you. I practically humped MGS4 when it came out.

Nel Li

If Sony’s PS4 isnt selling well, I can understand what they are going to do. But after 10 million PS4 sold in under 12 months, they might want to reconsider that…

Faafeu Kapeneta

Yeah its because analysts and media, with the rise of mobile gaming gave console gaming no chance of succeed couple of years back. A lot of people downplayed SONY and MS about the success the PS4 and Xbox One would have today in the market. They’re wrong, dead wrong. PS4 is trending on a rapid pace that even people who doubt console gaming died are scratching their heads. Its a plan for the future really, I dont think it will become norm until the entire world internet is upgraded on fibre and speed is relatively fast.

Somebodyissilent

And I’m out when that day comes. Hate being a slave to the internet.

Craig Sloan

When I can no longer game on a console using a controller and discs I will be done with gaming.

They Call Me Senpai

I hope consoles never disappear, but if they do, then I’ll just have to switch to cloud gaming.

SkinnyAssGamer

people never want to look towards the future for some reason their stuck in their nostalgic past. I agree i don’t want hardware and consoles to go but we got to move somewhere and if benefits gaming and gamers why does it matter if its sold to you directly as a console or hard disk copy or downloaded onto your hard drive or if you just stream it.

Look towards the future of gaming. not the past.

WhyYouGottaHate

Bunch of people can’t handle the truth I see. Lol back to your walkmans

SkinnyAssGamer

At least its better then an ipod. Apple sucks. Also what is a Zune? exactly #TheReturnOfTheWalkman

WhyYouGottaHate

Only stubborn old folks won’t be along with this idea. It’s only beneficial to all, and it’s coming

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

A big problem with this for Sony is that publishers could ask themselves why they need Sony? If they can distribute in an online model than why can’t they? EA already has Origin that could expand its model and already pushing with its subscription based model that could be its own thing as well outside of a console. While not all publishers are big enough Ubisoft has something they could do expanding with Uplay and Activision is big enough to do something too. I hate the idea of their potentially being different models as in apps to buy from.

That is just a scary scenario I think could happen if Sony gets out of consoles. Frankly I think the console that still exists in the end will be will be the most successful. That likely being Nintendo. There still will be a demand of hardware while down the road it could be minimal, it is still a major impact if your the only gaming hardware to buy.

Faafeu Kapeneta

Im pretty sure MS and Nintendo are looking at the same thing as SONY. EA Access gave me a glimpse into a future Im not all too keen for and Yoshida talked about it with Eurogamer. I will have to pay subscription fee to all major publishers just to play their games instead being available under one roof, PS Now.

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

MS is definitely planning it. They would have been closer if their online only console didn’t get the backlash. Nintendo though has always been reluctant to go all in when it comes to online anything so I see them easily holding out the longest which I believe will the one online component they are behind in but ironically finally something that can be praised and will be reap them benefits.

Faafeu Kapeneta

Problem with MS approached was the fact they were going for it in 2013, Internet isn’t accessible to everyone yet. They forced it without giving us as gamers any type of choice. SONY is doing the same thing but having the old system (trade, sell, collect) and PS Now as a option (US gamers) gives gamers a glimpse into the future.

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

There will always be a decent group that will rally against disposing of the option of physical discs regardless the access of the internet and its best speeds. It isn’t getting any easier in the future of net neutrality doesn’t exist anymore.

SkinnyAssGamer

because Sony is a major Publisher and a console owner. they have millions of gamers worldwide using their products for gaming and such it would be stupid not to put their games available on Sony’s Streaming service.

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

It is not stupid of you can reap all the benefits with your own services. There are millions of people playing Activision and EA games. There are millions of people playing Ubisoft games. It is not stupid. This is business and Sony changing the landscape gives opportunities for others to change their own landscape in how they deliver the games they produce. EA has already delivering an app for that ability on the XB1. It is not stupid for EA to consider doing that outside of Sony’s own digital only distribution/cloud service model.

SkinnyAssGamer

EA Access isn’t competing with PS Now. stop trying to make it out as it is. its more comparable to PS Plus. which is a better deal then EA Access anyway.

http://Xcite79.1up.com/ Keegs79

Why are you making a big deal about this? I am not talking about right now! Did you even read the article? Its talking about the future and that is what I am talking about. EA Access would be nothing like it is right now in 5-6 years. This all in reference to a “no” console future.

superkarma

Sounds like Andrew House needs to reign in his staff. Keep letting these 2 guys do interviews and it won’t be long before we see another public backlash, like we did last year with Microsoft’s digital-only/always-online model.

Faafeu Kapeneta

I thought people listen to Andrew House when he addressed what PS Now was, trying to accomplish in the future. Their vision for it looks to me is still a couple of years away. That doesn’t mean they are gonna abandon console gaming when its on hot trend atm. Looks like they’re preparing for the inevitable future.

superkarma

Understandable, but they need to tread carefully with their wording and how they execute said plans. This “future” is likely never going to happen. For arguments sake, even if it did, it’s so many years down the road, it’s essentially irrelevant to talk about now anyways. It’s a fine line their walking, especially with how well PS4 hardware and software sales are doing.

Faafeu Kapeneta

true, it’s pretty irrelevant to talk much about it now but its good info to know.

bardock5151

Physical copies still existed it just would’ve been akin to what PC gamers have had for a while now.

superkarma

And it works fine for PC. That’s a different platform. You can’t just expect everyone to accept something radical like that overnight. That was Microsoft’s downfall. If they approached it differently and gradually introduced options (not ultimatums) everything would’ve played out differently.

bardock5151

But its not an inherently different platform, PC plays games among a multitude of other things, Xbox plays games among a few other things. All platforms share a large portion of their install base, so most gamers knew what to expect from such a system so I don’t see that as radical at all.
The way it was introduced was brutally honest, no holds barred kind of marketing and that was wrong and a flawed way of thinking. That part isn’t up for debate its pretty clear cut. Now though you will see what they should have done, a slow rollout and its already started with both Sony and Microsoft.

Tiberian_Fiend

This gen is the last gen. R.I.P. consoles. Mobile and PC gaming are the future.

xChaOsNiNja216x

I could only imagine what the comments would look like had Microsoft said this. Lol. Hypocrisy at it’s best. I love both of my consoles but man…why are we so forgiving to Sony? Sony says cloud gaming is the future and it’s great, Microsoft says anything about the cloud and its pure mayhem. Serious question, being relatively new to the community, why?

superkarma

Not sure what’s so hypocritical about this comment section. If you had bothered to look, you would see just about all of the comments are against this.

Budgiecat

He’s projecting fanboy reassurance reaching

xChaOsNiNja216x

I honestly don’t even know what that means. I was asking a serious question. I just don’t see the backlash that MS received for saying this very same thing.
I don’t like this “cloud” stuff anymore than a lot of people and probably because I don’t understand fully what it means other than me not actually owning anything I buy.
Like I said I’m new to the community and trying to be a little more active but if asking a question means I am a fanboy maybe I am better off just doing something else. You calling me a fanboy doesn’t hurt my feelings at all but if I can’t have a conversation without you judging me then what’s the point?

Budgiecat

What it means is you didn’t bother reading any of the responses here and instead, decided to ignorantly assume everyone here was praising this, when the opposite was true.

xChaOsNiNja216x

I didn’t ignorantly do anything. You are ignorantly assuming that I am a fan boy. Read my other comments. I tried to clarified what I meant by my comment.

xChaOsNiNja216x

Ok, you’re right. Maybe the reaction isn’t “great” but is it what it would be if it was M$? I should have clarified. I did read the comments section just thought it’d be in more of an uproar, that’s all. Just wanted to know why. Apparently, I’ll just be met with snarky comments instead of an answer because I must be a “fanboy” if I say anything Microsoft. Ohhhhh, the internet.

bardock5151

Microsoft did get alot more heat than this though, not necessarily the same thing but there definitely was alot more heat.

superkarma

That’s because Microsoft gave an ultimatum. They weren’t just sharing words about what they thought the future holds. They forced everyone to fall in line with what they thought the future held. That’s the difference here.

demfax

Except people here aren’t “forgiving Sony” nor would they be happy with a cloud only future.

You’re making up strawmen.

Budgiecat

Cloud doesnt work if you dont have an internet connection

usually any mobile game I see that needs always online DRM to work, I don’t bother with. Same for any home console digital game…

Spoonyrogdrumps

I personally don’t have a problem with DRM
If I can and it’s the same price as physical I will purchase my games digitally.
I don’t sell my games.

SkinnyAssGamer

Good move Sony, All you need to do is set up a Subscription model plan for around 99.99 yearly access to unlimited games to stream on your PS4, games from Ps1, PS2, and PS3 maybe even PSP games to stream on your Vita possibly. Continuously add new content to it, new features gamers will like for the service, etc. Maybe you can even sign a deal with Sega or whatever to get their past games on PS Now from the Master System to Dreamcast Eras. That would be pretty sweet in my opinion.

I don’t want hardware to go away don’t get me wrong but sometimes we got to look towards the future of gaming. #PlayStationNow

Spoonyrogdrumps

Sony said they will be releasing information about a subscription plan soon. I’m curious on what the price will be.
It all depends on the value and the amount of content.

Rower

Really? Omg omg omg omg

xChaOsNiNja216x

I agree. I’d definitely sign up for it. Although– I do admit, I don’t fully understand everything about cloud gaming but if what we are talking about is PSNow type of services across all consoles but with current and last gen games I would definitely be game for it.

Spoonyrogdrumps

I used the service on PS4 and it works really well with no difference in graphical quality. You need a good connection though.
I don’t think it will be the only future. You will still have current titles needing hardware as not everyone has a good enough internet connection to handle the service. This service will handle backwards compatibility nicely.
It solves the problem of creating the hardware needed to run older games, and for those that want to take a trip down memory lane it’s a good way to do it.

SkinnyAssGamer

no not on all consoles just on PlayStation Consoles and other Sony products it will be better for Sony that way since a lot of people go to Apple and other companies for devices this would give Sony a huge edge over them especially Microsoft.

xChaOsNiNja216x

It would definitely be a huge advantage over MS.

bettergetdave

@SkinnyAssGamer:disqus , I heard a lot of people mention pricing and most of them just annoy me with crazy antics about $5.00 / month all you can eat pass. I think that 99.99 up front sounds really good. I immediately said I would pay that after reading it. I wonder if that would work for Sony….sounds like it could.

SkinnyAssGamer

yeah especially if it includes Trophy support even for games that never had trophy support on the PS1 or PS2.

L3AK3D

This seems like a popular choice for potentially for the not so dedicated gamer but anyone who’s anyone knows the second you put something wireless their is a serious decline in quality. The only way that the quality of having a physical console plugged into your TV could be matched is if somehow major advances were made in terms of connections. I have played playstation now and was apart of almost every segment of its alpha and beta and I can tell you the quality is good for what it is but in no way shape or form compares to the quality of having the ps4 or ps3 system directly connected to the TV. Dedicated gamers will move to PC before adopting this way of doing things and sony will lose a big portion of their market share if this takes place.

Da GeeZ

So always online then… pretty much what Microsoft was pushing for Xbox One.
The end of game trading and constant ‘DRM’ with extortionate pricing.
But it’s sony bringing it… so it’s being called ‘innovation’ and it’s suddenly a fantastic idea.

Such double standards.

Spoonyrogdrumps

No not always online. PSNow is just an option. Physical media still exists. It’s not going away anytime soon but I welcome DRM. Steam has been doing it for years and it works great. PSNow is also just for older titles. Not titles that are PS4 games.

Budgiecat

DRM sucks

a console is a console. A PC is a PC.

You can’t drag your PC games to your friends house and easily plug n play if their PC isnt up to par and even if so….takes too damn long

Spoonyrogdrumps

All you need is an internet connection and you can play with your friends. I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

Budgiecat

I’m talking about physically bringing a PC game over to your friends house to play with them side by side on a coach, or downloading said PC game from your Steam account at their house they dont have a powerful enough PC or working internet, which again would take long…

Not “Playing online at home on your PC or streaming program/device while they are far away at their home”

how do you not understand such simple convenience or are you a foreveralone with no friends?…..smh

Spoonyrogdrumps

Laptops then.
The new steam boxes will be really portable, and gaming rigs can come in small sizes.

Budgiecat

oh please. Yeah lets compare a disc you can fit in your pocket to a gaming rig or laptop..

Spoonyrogdrumps

I get your point. You hate DRM.
Why do you not like it?
The benefits are that games can be cheaper.
And you save space so you don’t have to store countless discs.
I can understand a person’s reservations with it though.
Having a physical copy gives you more control over what you do with the game.

Budgiecat

so why are you asking me when you know the answers lol

and no games are not cheaper lol

Amazing Spider-Man 2 was on temp sale once for $30 on PSN.
Guess what Amazing Spider-Man 1 was at the same time? $50.
Lol an old ass game being more than a new sequel wtf..

also DRM on mobile games (beside most mobile games being a joke) is a joke.

Wanna play that DRM mobile game on your iPad or phone when you’re on the subway or plane? Sorry nope..

And now console market wanna copy the mobile phone game market business models.

sux

Spoonyrogdrumps

Steam has DRM and it’s cheaper.
I agree though the pricing on PSN isn’t always equal to the physical copy of the game. I definitely get the cheaper price if it’s physical.
PSN does hold flash sales and it’s good to take advantage of it but not often.
I agree with you on mobile, though I don’t mobile game.
It will take time for consoles to catch up to where Steam is at with it.
I knew your answers but I wanted to know your deeper reasonings behind it, and to contemplate ideas on where DRM would be acceptable to more people with your opinions on the matter.
Personally I think it would be a good idea to be able to sell back your digital game rights if you didn’t want it anymore, or sell your digital rights of the game to another person if not back to the company, though if it did that the buyback price would be about the same and you wouldn’t get any more money for it if you sold it to another person. But, I do think the company that you bought it from would give you a certain amount back and they would just remove it from your library. It could be there for those that want that service.

Budgiecat

You know they’ll never do that.

the whole purpose of digital and DRM is so they have absolute control over the consumer and their product..

Spoonyrogdrumps

There is an element of that yes, but it’s rare that a company would have absolute control. There are laws that protect against that.

Budgiecat

Remember Gamestop with Xenoblade Chronicles? What “law” is there to stop that for digital sales? Show me these “laws”.

Spoonyrogdrumps

I don’t know of the game stop problem with XC.

bardock5151

I would like to see Microsoft bring in 2 business models, one just like we have now and another just like what they were going to do, with digital trading, cheaper pricing model(publishers and Microsoft get their cut of every game sold, exactly like steam) all with a 24 hour check in. If anything its a good experiment to see which comes out on top between the two. But that wont happen as it’ll cost to much and people will call it evil coercion and bribery or something.

They Call Me Senpai

That’s how it’ll be at some point, and Sony is only preparing for it. Microsoft tried to force it on people against their will.

hmmmmm
Maybe when the world’s internet is super highspeed and not screwing over customers… That’s way way way down the road though.
Also I hope they realize that if they do that it has potential to deliver the finishing blow to Sony as a whole.

Spoonyrogdrumps

I saw this and had to quote it. It’s from eren_jaeger.

“There’s something sort of gratifying about knowing that Naughty Dog, a single lone studio, can induce fear in one of the biggest multi-billion dollar companies on earth.”

ineedgames

That’s kin of a dumb statement as Microsoft has Halo but that’s what Phil practically said about it when he did the deal with TR.

Spoonyrogdrumps

Phil did work for Sony before he changed teams.

tunde

wrong Phil

Spoonyrogdrumps

Phil Harrison. Not the wrong Phil…Is it or was it a different Phil that answered question about ROTTR along with Spencer.

tunde

yeah, i was referring to Harrison, i thought you were originally talking about Spencer. my bad

Spoonyrogdrumps

To many Phils lol.

Spoonyrogdrumps

Halo is overrated buy a lot of people. Halo was cool for a while but it died out.
This isn’t about specific games though. It’s about a studio itself.
Naughty Dog is the best studio on the planet.

ineedgames

That’s opinion, I think Platinum are the best and Naughty Dog are highly overated.
Halo is in fact still cool and is still one of the top franchises in history.

Spoonyrogdrumps

That’s funny because I think that’s your opinion and I think you are overrated. You are so predictable.

ineedgames

Yo Mamma is so predictable.

Spoonyrogdrumps

Yo Daddy
Yo Cousin
See how silly this is.
I don’t understand your hate for Sony.
I admit many of us Sony fans are hardcore and we want everyone to join our legion but seriously what’s so bad about them.
Everyones bad on some level.
Not only that but I’ll go as far to say that I’d love for Xbox owners to play Naughty Dog games on the Xbox.
I am very much against exclusivity,
but I am pro Sony at the same time.

ineedgames

Prepare for a wall of text.

I don’t hate Sony but these fanboys make them out to be a saint.
I don’t hate pewdiepie personally but he has an obnoxious fanbase that makes me want to hate him, you get what I’m saying?

Sony hasn’t offerd me anything in my taste for gaming which is why I don’t care for the Playstation brand much. Insomniac were like the only Devs they had I liked and now they are on Xbox.

Gaming needs competition, out of all of the FPS games Sony has had none of them have come close to Halo, Even MS wanted TR to be exclusive to Xbox so they can compete with Uncharted.
lots of fanboys want MS to die but that will only end up bad for everyone in the end.

I’ll be getting a PS4 in the future but I won’t be support a lot of it’s exclusives because I don’t like them, I have played them so you can’t say “How can you hate them if you havn’t played them”.

Spoonyrogdrumps

I don’t like pewdiepie either. One the name is just weird and he’s a little weird. I honestly don’t get the deal with watching other people play games but whatever.
Playstation has a great library of games since the PS1.
Is it because you grew up with Xbox and that’s why you like it so much? I’m not saying Halo is bad. PC had and has better shooters than Halo though too but still Halo isn’t bad. I love lots of different games shooters included.
You sound like you just like shooters and you are missing out on a lot of great games.

ineedgames

I’ve owned every PS console since the first playstation, I’ve loved games like Crash and Spyro with Ratchet and Clank:Locked & loaded on the PS2 being one of my all time favorite games but Sony has since moved from making fun of it self to taking it self seriously with its games.
I don’t want games like The Last of Us being mainstream, I want to see games that try to have a good time which is what I see in Xbox games.

I’ve loved shooters since my Unreal Tournament days but my favorite games are hack&slash such as Bayonetta being my favorite one.
Xbox just tends my needs, Yes sony is going for every kind of game but it’s an ace of everything and a master of none.

Spoonyrogdrumps

I would disagree. I think its a master of many but to each his own. I like games with compelling narratives and story, puzzles and mysterious tones but I also like action and mindless games too. I like to be entertained. RPG’s and Survival horror are my favorite genre but I also like action games, open world, I like it all.
I’m sorry you have limited tastes.
I appreciate games of all kinds because they are all different.
I challenge you to try broadening your horizons and grow. Be in touch with the art and your feelings. Not just mindless hack and slash all the time. Get engaged with games and let them pull you in.

ineedgames

What makes you think I don’t try new games? I’ll give every game a shot before I judge it.
I still try strategy games on PC from time to time.
My favorite genres are Hack&slash, Shooters, Fighting, Action, My favorite game of all time isn’t even on that list and it’s Fallout 2.
My avartar is from an JRPG series I like and it’s not on the list, it’s even a PS3 game.
Again Xbox just tends my needs while Playstation doesn’t.

Spoonyrogdrumps

Here is the thing though. Playstation has those games.
The only reason I see you holding on to Xbox is because of Halo.
Which is silly. I think there are deeper reasons why you don’t like Playstation and you won’t say why.
It’s ok though I won’t press you about it further.

ineedgames

Just because they have them doesn’t mean they’re good, why don’t you understand this?
I’m well aware PS has games like Hevanly Sword, God of War but I didn’t like them because they were not rewarding, no depth to combat. They are easy which I hate.
Killzone was “errr”, I liked the Resistance series.
I have other reasons besides Halo but Halo would be my main reason to play on Xbox, Games like Dead Rising where you kill zombies in fun ways, Fable (even though 3 was bad I’m still looking forward to Legends).
I like Infamous 1&2 but I’m not fond of Second Son.

There’s just nothing on the PS4 that intrest me as the PS3 has at least some games I like.
I don’t hate playstation but the PS4 has given me nothing I like.

I’ve given you plenty of reasons but you will always see me as that Xtard

Spoonyrogdrumps

Also I don’t know what you mean Sony making fun of themselves. Sony has never made fun of itself. Games like Metal Gear Solid on PS1 was an epic game. There have always been adult minded games with each Sony console. Why would you want a game that makes fun of itself all the time.

Budgiecat

got a Wii U for B2?

ineedgames

Be getting it when it comes out as well as MK8 and Wonderfull 101.

Budgiecat

No Xenoblade Chronicles you jerk?

Craig Sloan

Play God Of War then, Sony has better exclusives than Microsoft IMO. Even the critics agree with their awards and review scores. TLOU Mainstream? Just like evey game you mentioned lol gets no more mainstream than Halo either unless it’s Mario or Pokemon. Get Little big planet for your cartoon style platformer and GOW for hack n slash oh nd Sony’s consoles master JRPG’s and story driven games.

http://www.backline.tk TK85

I only know one person who likes Halo. And he hates all of them after 2. Everyone else just sees it as a rip off of Unreal 2

ImOnaDrugCalledSheen

Don’t do it Sony, let Microsoft fail at that cloud nonsense like they already are.

ineedgames

Sony don’t care for console gamers, you heard here first folks.

Spoonyrogdrumps

Take that BS somewhere else.

tunde

so sony trying to prepare for a possible future so as to not be caught off guard translates into them not caring about the console gamers? even if they didnt care dont you think it would be a bad idea to suddenly ignore 10million customers? and if you think microsoft isnt preparing for this as well, you are sadly mistaken

ineedgames

I’m only repeating what every other fanboy said when MS started DRM with the XBO, Personally I don’t care as long as I got the games.
I think PS4 is a good console (Better then XBO infact) but an Xbox fan all of the way and Sony fanboys annoy the s*** which is why I talk s***.

tunde

then why not choose to educate or better yet ignore them?

ineedgames

Educations out of the question, It’s just like blindly following a religion.

Budgiecat

Which is exactly what you’re doing since you’re choosing to blindly ignore the fact most people responding here aren’t for this…

Daniel Gonzalez

^This

Budgiecat

M$ “cares” for console gamers when their dumbass always online DRM idea blew up in their face E3 2013. We heard this last year.

Daniel Gonzalez

You try too hard. The art of trolling is dead.

ineedgames

Nintendo will never try to do this, yous all toke them for granted.

Russell Gorall

“Imagine buying the same game every year… as Last Of Us has showed us, you can do that plus release DLC.”

ineedgames

Works with Borderlands and Minecraft.

Kingdom17

While I still want consoles and I’m still skeptical about this, I don’t understand why so many people are adamant/afraid/unwilling to consider a streaming future. I mean I imagine in 20 to 30 years Fiber Optics Internet will a norm in the larger countries where there is also a large gaming market and cable will have replaced DSL in other places. Also the technology to stream the games will have been finely tuned by then, if we progress towards this future with PS Now. All else I can think of is pricing, now I’m sure a acceptable pricing model would have been in placed by then for rentals and we could purchase the games outright similarly to Amazon Instant Video where its just placed in your library. Now when it comes to physically owning a game, having it in your hand, all I can say is I don’t know, to me its a little safer to have games saved in a cloud compared to physical copies which can be stolen, or damaged. If you can’t deal with not having it in your hand, I don’t know, I doubt this future would happen all of a sudden and just thrown at you, it would be a gradual process in which I think most of the gaming community and market would be eased into it to the point where most wouldn’t care.

Well, that my first wall of text in a long, long time. Come one everyone, come at me, and discuss away! 😀

Spoonyrogdrumps

Great comment.

http://www.backline.tk TK85

I see your logic of it being stored in the cloud and not being able to be stolen.

But that is where my main issue with Digital comes from. If the licence with the platform holder expires that game is then gone same if said company goes bust or such. Also what if you have to go somewhere without any access to the internet at all. Say you are in the armed forces somewhere? Or you you live out in the country where you can’t even get a stable dial up connection that runs above 6kb.

Personally if it was digital but you could say download the game and burn it onto a disc so you have always have your own copy I would be game with that but then that would just feel like piracy to me which would put me off.

I guess I just need real things that I have full control over.

Kingdom17

That’s a very good point about having no access to it, and of course I’m not positive, but by 20 to 30 years in the future I would assume most countries would have some form of connection and it be at minimum, cable, but of course that might not be entirely possible. Hmmm perhaps by then cellular data could become cheaper and with a 4G or more likely its future successor would be the main way to deliver an internet connection to such places.

http://www.backline.tk TK85

We never know. I do think that the biggest hurdle with anything web based though will be latency. If we have people now complaining about a game dropping 5fps imagine what the fanboy wars will be like when something has 600ms latency where the competitors has say 800ms. I tried Onlive and whilst it worked it wasn’t really that playable. Hopefully things will get better in the future but I think we are a long way off from having low enough latency.

Kingdom17

Yep, latency could kill this, but we have no idea what technology will be like a few decades from now. As for PS Now after it went into public beta I found I was able to stream a game well with little latency through a wi fi connection.

Jan Compaf

that would be the day when i will stop gaming

Noel

Nintendo, won’t follow in Sony’s footsteps they see themselves as a Toy company, and MS if they keep the XBox Brand has promised they would release another console after XBox One.. Only Sony would exit the console,business with PlayStation Now..

They want their games to be played on everything

Dennis Djoenz

I will never go digital only! I don’t like this vision one bit. Hopefully it’s ten years down the line. Right now I want to play FFXIV, but I can’t cause I can’t log in with my SEN ID. Digital for the win yeah right.

More restricted and bigger prices. Outages. Lag etc.

Demaulicus .

For those wondering this is just stating that the video game industry is moving forward to where you will most likely use your PC (Personal Computer) to play games and they will be creating an OS that you will download that you will be able to use instead of buying consoles every 8~10 years. This will make gaming devices cheaper in the long run as you pay one initial cost of about $1,000 ~ $2000 then do minor upgrades every 4~5 years unless you want to maintain a top of the line PC all the time. It’s possible to build a PC for cheaper (approx $600) to play games but you should make it so you are able to make as minimum upgrades to keep the short term costs down.

Back on topic of the future of the Playstation brand from Sony. They are doing this to reduce Research and Development costs as they will only need to work on the software side of things for the consumer. This is similar to what Valve is planning with Steam and the SteamOS. Technology has moved to the point where Consoles and PCs are close enough in line with each other with features that eliminating the traditional console and making it an Operating System you use on your PC will make the system perform better as long as you keep your hardware up to date (doesn’t have to be top of the line but maintaining the recommended specs). Required specs shouldn’t be followed as they are bare minimum and you will barely be able to run games. If it gets intensive the minimum spec PC could start to stutter.

bardock5151

That’s exactly what the PC is now, install official OS(windows,Linux etc.), download and play games until hardware needs a refresh. There is nothing written that hasn’t been done.
Consoles have their place as an easy consumer choice, no extensive research, no self optimizations, no concern of aim bots etc, no rip off brands like alien ware and the list goes on. PC has its place with modding, enthusiasts with the latest and greatest hardware and the best graphics.

From what I read some people with nothing better to do DDoS’d the PSN network and it went down.

Dennis Djoenz

Yeah bloody hell. There is ya digital future. I am so annoyed right now.

Demaulicus .

In my lengthy post I stated that most likely Sony and Microsoft will use an Operation System for you to play games sort of how the SteamOS is http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/ and you will install it to your PC or laptop. Also, I suspect apps to appear on mobile devices for their current Vita/PSP style games.

MNFNGamer

Where consoles can disappear………DRM

Noel

Sony being Anti-Customer again

truthtellerdealwithit

I prefer having a console to be honest.

http://www.youtube.com/redflamefox Red Flame Fox

Wow, this would suck.

Malacath

Streaming games is cack.
As well as the fact you need a fast stable internet there is also the fact that there is a milliseconds delay from when you press a button on the joypad to when the video is streamed back to you.
This input makes fast paced games unplayable. I’ve seen this in cloud streaming services like Onlive and Gaikai before.
I would never swap and actual games console for a streamed service like PS Now or Onlive.
You matter how good the internet connection they can never get rid of input lag.

Jeff Maxwell

we need grapheme based routers, speeds up communication speeds by a considerable amount maybe even 100 times. that’s when the latency will drop off very quickly

Homer Ruglia Beoulve

They said when the internet dawned, newspaper will die. It didn’t happened.
They said that when e-books arrived, textbooks will die. It didn’t happened as well.
So, is Sony assuming that console market will die in the next generations because of cloud gaming?

“Don’t count the chicks yet when the eggs haven’t been hatched yet.”

Just putting it out there.

shippo911

NO YOU EITHER NEED CONSOLES OR VR IT CAN’T ALL WORK MOBILE honestly that may be the crappiest idea pitched in life think of those with a console and can’t afford a smartphone or monthly phone bill THAT DOES NOT WORK keep bringing out systems bc honestly i love my ps3 and I’m hearing great things of the ps4 keep them going

Matt Destasio

See, I do agree that console gaming as we know it now isn’t going to last too much longer, but I envision a jump to true computer consoles that bridge the gap between gaming consoles and laptops. I don’t think that laptop gaming is going anywhere, but the casual gamer doesn’t want to play their games using a laptop. But laptop gamers would welcome gaming thats natively designed to run on a larger screen. All Microsoft (I say MS because they already work extensively with both consoles and computers) would need to do is build an OS around the idea that it will be used with a home television, and then build several accompanying pieces that control it based on what you intend to use it for. A new keyboard that works comfortably by itself with the mouse, a small touch-remote (probably just an app) and then the xbox controller. I think laptops have become dated for the general public because most people prefer their lightweight and quick smartphones for general browsing and light duty computing. Hell I’m typing this entire post on my phone right now, because why the hell would I want to get my big clunky computer out, boot it up, wait for the browser to load, etc.. I think that the natural progression is to somehow merge the two (laptop and console) into one machine that can literally do everything you need it to. As someone who isn’t a fan of computer gaming, I would love to have access to a wider variety of games and a fuller entertainment experience, and I think this is the way to go.