will you join me in my thinking our panelists. [applause] representative live indiscussestaxpolicyand deficit reduction. he spoke at the briefing today hosted by the christian science monitor for an hour. >> thanks for coming. i'm dave cook from the monitor. welcome to the first breakfast of the new year. the guest is representative sander levin of michigan cranking member of the house ways and means committee. this is the first visit of the group. he did for deily to detroit native and the university of chicago, master's and international relations of columbia and a law degree from harvard who was elected in the michigan state senate in 1964 and served as a senate minority leader during the carter administration he was assistant administrator of the agency for international development elected to the house in 1982. for four years after his brother carl was elected to the senate. in march, 2010, representative levin one the gavel of the chairman of the ways and means committee. in the biographical portion of the program now on to the thrilling portion. as always we are on the reco

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phone 5 sending shares below. >> did you see your paycheck on friday? thepayrolltaxhikeobviously kicking in for many americans. felt like a pay cut. will this be a temporary shock or a headwind as stocks hover at five-year highs. >> ubs achoirs tnt after a commission throws up road blocks. >>> to the top story. in the pre-market, we've seen apple shares fall below $500 for the first time in 11 months. the tech giant has cut its orders for iphone 5 components because of weaker than expected demands. screen orders for january to march quarter have fallen about half. the company had planned to order. apple said to cut orders for components other than screens. now, jim, we've had sort of this concern about demand for the iphone 5. i think last week when deutsche bank came out with the note from the japanese team, specifically citing this very issue, that's when the concerns really started to mount and the stock really started feeling the impact. >> i think that there's something wrong with the iphone 5. i think that samsung has come on very strong. when you go to a resaler, the sales

's already too much uncertainty inourtaxstructureto be doing this again in three months adds to the uncertainty. there are other thoughts as well. twitter available to you, too. stuart, you are up first. good morning. caller: this goes along with the war on weapons. what congress needs to talk about is the everyday city crime, the shootings among drug dealers, the prison industrial complex, what ron paul and ralph nader talk about. real solutions to the debt limit and taxation of illegal drugs, at least marijuana will reduce the deficit, increase revenue, increase jobs. decrease crime in half. host: so what do you think about the strategy from house republicans? what do you think specifically on this as a strategy? caller: i think it's just a big joke. without new revenue. they know. they don't care that we're going down the tubes. they don't care about sese quest ration. now they are talking about the construction industry is going crazy. we need more cheap labor from third world countries. like that's going to help. host: ela is on our democrats line from charlotte, south c

to surrender on the debt limit and require the republicans to acceptnewtaxesinexchange for any new real spending reductions. so the white house's plan is to force republicans to be unreasonable by being themselves reasonable and taking the positions they have had all along, including in the 2012 campaign, which they won. another version came today from "the new york times" columnist, saying they could adopt the strategy, called kill the wounded, the wounded being the republican party. the way the strategy works, the moderate policies on gun control and hurricane relief, they will force the republicans to offend main stream supporters or risk a challenge from the right. there is a kind of a delightful logic to this argument, which it is true. the republican party looks really bad because the white house is proposing pretty popular moderate ideas and republicans keep saying no to them. and yeah, it is true that house republicans look kind of crazy when they say they're going to let the white house default on its obligations, regarding the election and that issue. so yeah, if obama was not

their fair shareoftaxes. he'sjust another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their children and gun-free zones for our kids. host: that the latest ad by the nra, put out yesterday, getting a lot of feedback about the ad invoking the president's children. the "washington times" has this headline this morning about president obama's event this morning. that is our question for all of you. if president obama acts on his own with executive action, do you support that idea? we're getting your take on that this morning. we will go to sandra in sulphur springs, texas, a republican. caller: how are you? i just have a question to ask the rest of the people listening. what about the fort hood shootings? has anybody thought about how many guns were there? the man walked in, he was a psychologist, he walked in and killed our soldiers at fort hood. . what is the gun ban going to do on that? what does obama think about that? host: what do you think about the president taking some actions on his own? caller: i don't think anybody ought to take our guns away.

.5 trillionintaxrevenue.ten times what the servicing on the debt is there is some cash flow aspects of turning over some debt. but basically the only reason you have to increase the debt ceiling is because we continue to deficit spend. we're actually spending $1 trillion more than we're bringing in. >> we're not, when you say -- >> that's the reason you have to increase the debt ceiling. >> when you say we continue to deficit spend. we've deny sit spent under this entire administration, under the entire previous administration as well. this isn't new, we never don't deficit spend. why would you pick this moment to have that fight? >> when do you stop doing that. >> can you come up with a budget? paul ryan couldn't come up with one. >> well paul ryan did pass a budget in the house. where we have passed a budget is in the united states senate controlled by democrats for over three years. >> right. >> so what we need, what we need to use the debt ceiling moment as, is a moment to educate the american public about all the deficit spending. the fact that we blew through a $2.1 billion in

, he said he would not extend any of thebushtaxcutsfor the wealthy and you did. you say you're not going to negotiate this year, why should house republicans take that seriously and think if we did into the 1 minute until midnight scenario that you will not back down? >> first of all, julianna, let's take the example of this year's fiscal cliff. i did not say we would not have any conversations out all about extending the bush tax cuts. i said we would not extend them for the wealthy. we did not. now, you can argue that during the campaign i said i set the criteria for "wealthy" at $250 on dollars and we ended up being a $400,000, but millionaires are paying more taxes, just as i said. from the start, my concern was making sure we had a tax code that was fair and protected the middle class. when biggest priority is making sure that middle-class taxes did not go up. the difference between this year and 2011 is the fact that we have already made $2 trillion in cuts. at the time, i indicated that there were cuts that we could sensibly make that would not damage our economy, wou

to be uninsured. you're not going to have that option because when you fileyourtaxes, you'llhave to attach proof that you are in a government-mandated plan. >> gretchen: wow. >> so if you earn too much to be eligible for medicaid, you will have to go shop on the state health insurance exchanges. >> gretchen: so these health insurance exchanges, a lot of this is rolling out now. >> they'll be open in october. and most people have never heard of these. but they're like an 800 number, a web site, and a dmv type office. and they only sell the government man-dated plan. it's like going to a dealership that sells four door sedans. >> gretchen: they dictate what you're going to get. i thought obamacare was supposed to give you a choice? >> no, there really will be no choice. there will be bronze, silver, gold and platinum. but they all have the same coverage. only the co-pays differ. section 1311 puts the federal government in charge of your health care fort first time, even if you have a private plan you paid for yourself. the secretary of health and human services can still dictate what doctors

generations. i have also said that we need more revenuethroughtaxreformby closing loopholes andourtaxcodefor the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on healthcare and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investment in things like education that will help us grow. it turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire years debate over this. they made a clear decision about the approach. they do not think it is smart to have tax breaks for the wealthiest americans. they want us to get our books and order in a balanced way where everybody pulls their weight, everyone does their part. we can get it done, but we will have to make sure that people are looking at this in a responsible way rather than just through the lines of politics. something most americans had not even heard of before two years ago. i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling is not authorized or spending. it allows the country t

. the law requires licensed gun dealers to performthesetax--checks but as many as 40% of all gun purchases are conducted without one. that is not fair to responsible gun buyers or sellers. an overwhelming majority of americans agree that anyone try to buy a gun to the least have to prove they are not a felon or someone legally prohibited from owning one. that is just common sense. second, congress should restore a ban on military-style assault weapons and a ten round limit for magazines. when the assault rifles, when combined with high-capacity magazines, have one purpose only -- to fire as many bullets as possible as quickly as possible. these weapons have no place i our communities. a majority of the american people agree with me. finally, congress needs to make it easier for law enforcement to do its job. we should get tougher on people who buy guns only to turn around and sell them criminals. at a time when many communities have been forced to make cuts to their police force, we should put more cops back on the job and on the streets. like most americans, i believe the second

about now closing more loopholes and that meanshighertaxes. wedon't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking forward to it. >> megyn: all right. thank you, sir. >> thanks, megyn. >> megyn: with the president refuse to go negotiate on that debt ceiling, it's coming and we're going to hit it and there's going to be a real question what we will do. he negotiated the last time and suddenly says he doesn't want to negotiate anymore and the republicans have drawn a line in the sand when it comes to these spending cuts, saying, if we don't see a dollar for dollar spending cut in the amount you want to raise the debt ceiling, there's no deal. what kind of progress can we hope for here? our political panel debates that coming up in our next hour. now to another big debate playing out in washington over the obama administration's efforts to overhaul the nation's gun laws. we heard some of that this morning. here is the preside

toraisetaxesanddemocrats don't want to touch entitlements it will be a heavy left but may bring optimistic. >> gregg: do allies of president obama maybe there is an opportunity to get big things done? >> they do seem encouraged following the house republicans' offer to increase the debt limit nation's built to borrow for three months and in exchange allow the house and senate to pass a budget. republicans would like to see a budget with spending cuts. here a key white house advisor on the g.o.p. offer. >>> we don't think the short term is smart for the economy. two or three months has uncertainty. we are please today see the republicans in the house drop their previous position which was, they were only going to pay the bills they racked up if they got what they wanted in deep spending cuts in medicare and other programs. that is progress. >> reporter: starting a new term president obama has reluctance will ri he is the one politician in washington who does not have to run for reelection. it be interesting to see what he wants to do to try to push big things across the finish li

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backtaxdocommunity service, prove they have been here for an extended period of time. understand some english and become assimilated. most of them would get legal stat us and be allowed to stay in the country. congressman paul ryan is weighing in. he wrote this on his facebook page. senator rubio is exactly right on the immediate to fix our broken immigration system. i support the principle he's outlined. modernization of our immigration law, stronger security to curb illegal immigration and respect important the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. eagerness to jump onboard is bipartisan. majority leader harry reid describing the prospects for immigration reform in the months ahead. >> it is going to be first thing on our agenda. the -- majority, every senate, lists their top ten items. immigration is the number one item. we are going to do immigration. they are now -- agreed tentatively on a path of citizenship which is the big stumbling block. we may be able to come up with a bipartisan bill quicker than you think. >> it is going to m

's instant opposition is not aboutraisingtaxesonthe wealthy, like last year. nor is it about proposing to raise the tax cuts. this time the issue is gun safety, including universal background checks supported by nearly nine out of ten americans. the president, once again, is taking his message to the people. as did he with _#$40. >> i promise you the american people, your voices, made a difference on this debate zoosh as he did with _#my2k. >> if there's one thing that i have learned, when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold, congress listens. >> yesterday the white house launched _#now is the time. >> this will not happen unless the american people demand it. >> the president has a new website explaining the proposed laws. he penned an op ed in the connecticut post today, and he is planning to hit the road to sell his plan with speeches around the country. as the white house tries to engage the public, senate majority leader harry reid will try to engage the senate. in a statement yesterday reid wrote "i am committed to insuring that the senate will consider legisla

more revenue,throughtaxreform,by closing loopholes inourtaxcodefor the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it is fair, for example, to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or a scientist to shut down life heavy saving research so the that a multimillionaire investor can pay less in tax rates than a secretary. they don't think it is smart to protect endless corporate loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthiest americans, rather than rebuild our roads and our schools, invest in our workers skills or help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. so they want us to get our books in order in a balanced way where everybody pulls their weight, everyone does their part. th

with the outcome. democrats complain that obama caved. because the president's plan allows george w.bush'staxcutsto become permanent. for those making less than $400,000 a year. these democrat critics fear that obama's second term instead of being quote, unquote bold will be quote, unquote cautious as his first term. and on the right, republicans moan and grown and say that -- groan and say that obama is demeaning in the way he deals with house speaker john boehner. hold on, says columnist rockman. we expect too much of obama he says because in the united states, we subscribe to the quote, unquote myth of the imperial presidency. other transformational democratic presidents such as fdr and lbj, rockman says, have substantial democratic majorities in both the senate and in the house to enact their landmark legislation. obama in contrast has had to work with a narrow democratic majority in the senate and with an opposition party, the republicans in control of the house for the two years since january 2011. well, what about ronald reagan? president of the united states two successful four-year

, you have to pay yourbacktaxes, youhave to show that you've been in the country working for a period of time. you had to show that you have a background check so you haven't broken any serious laws, you have to learn english and the like. it's earned, it not automatic. it would be a pathway to citizenship, but the fact of the matter is, we need full citizenship. we can't have second class citizenship, that won't work, we can't have a temporary program that won't work. we can't have a peace meal approach like some members in the senate have called for. it's got to be cover comprehensive, it's got to be full citizenship, we have got to get these people from out of the dark and into the light. the effect of bringing these people from out of the dark and into the light in the time of debt and deficit is the following, $1.5 trillion input into the economy, they help to maintain our social security system. we know that we're now a majority, children majority minority are being born inn now in the united states these kids will help beef up our social security system which we have got to str

thing to vote against it when you're squandering a bill clinton surplusontaxcutsfor those who don't need tax cuts pre-2008. it is another thing when you're trying to climb out of a recession. >> that's exactly right. there is a lot of misunderstanding about the debt ceiling. most americans think the debt ceiling is congress giving itself permission to spend more money. when they understand it is about do we default on our bills they say what? you're not going to pay your bills? that's what the debt ceiling is about. one of the things i advocated was the restoration of the gephardt rule that said when congress voted for a budget, let's say it voted for the iraq war that cost a trillion dollars, then at the moment that they voted for that program the debt ceiling would be adjusted up or down to reflect the budget they just voted for. that's what most americans would do. so this debt ceiling is all about hypocrisy. it is all about pretending that we have an option about paying our bills. by the way, a lot of the bills we have to pay are things i was adamantly opposed to. i didn't wan

more without asking the rich to pay more so we have toraisetaxes. soweraisetaxes, wegot pretty much exactly what obama asked for with a big tax hike and obama's response is, now we need a balanced approach where we raise more taxes. >> megyn: jonah goldberg, thank you. >> thank you. >> megyn: up next, a popular internet activist was faced with a possible 35 years in jail for hacking before took his own life. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ it's so important to make meone happy.♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. >> fox news alert. we told you at the top of the hour how ejust got word from the white house briefing that the the president will deliver his plan for the gun crackdown, however you want to phrase it, the executive orders that he is prepared to issue on guns in addition to the legislative push that we expect him to make around this time tomorrow. well, moments ago we just learned that the president will be joined by children from around the country who wrote letters to

and evaporation. combination of those variabl variables. >> the shippers payataxtothe lar boar maintenance fee for such work. in recent years the senators on both sides of the aisle, including carl levin of michiganbe complain the fund has been raided for other federal spending. >> steve brown on the banks of lake michigan. thank you. >> interior secretary ken salazzar the latest official to head out the door. they say he will leave in march. he joins the secretary of state, treasury, defense, labor and the epa chief in announcing their departures. more than 8,000 new york city school bus drivers on strike tonight. many students disabled had to find other ways to school this morning. job protection is the hang up. they put a contract with the private bus up for bid. it just got tougher to have your voice heard by the white house. taking gun control at schools for what you might consider a ridiculous extreme. grapevine explains next. >> bret: the white house quadrupleed the threshold on the signatures for the lead the people petition site. the new minimum, 100,000 signatures in 30 days. that is

legislation, you're not going to get to be able to identify any ofthesetaxloopholesthat we're talking about getting new revenue into the treasury. the first order of business to me, anyway, mr. president, how strong are you on the filibuster? you've stated before that you're in favor of it but he has got to come out and focus the country on how dysfunctional the senate has been. we can't live through 380 filibusters again and we've got to move forward. the only way to do that is to turn to the most politically important man in the country right now and that's harry reid. harry reese got to make the move. >> debt ceiling is date specific, as i mentioned, to peter about gun control, whether or not that's going to come up and where in the press conference that's going to come up as vice president gets ready to put forward the proposals that his gun task force has been drafting over the last several days. one thing is our nbc points out today about whether or not the appetite is lessening for this. they say, you also get the sense that the air is leaking ever so slightly out of this ballo

revenuethroughtaxreformby closing loopholes inourtaxcodefor the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. it turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue, and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair, for example, to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care, or a scientist to shut down lifesaving research so that a multimillionaire investor can pay less in tax rates than a secretary. they don't think it's smart to protect endless corporate loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthiest americans rather than rebuild our roads and our schools, invest in our workers' skills, or help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. so they want us to get our books in order in a balanced way, where everybody pulls their weight, everyone does their part. that's what i w

taxesupto the level where you fund the promises that we've already made. the entitlements that we've already made and the guarantees we've made, they just want to raise taxes on somebody. i don't know who, to the point where we never actually reform medicare, medicaid or social security. >> the question i want to ask him, is there ever a time that he's making, is it now given where we are in the economy? >> well, the question is, you put in a hundred and you take out 400 in medicare and the government covers 300. >> and it makes no sense. >> well, no, but there are people that think that the government's roll is to provide that 300. and so we should raise taxes to the point where you -- it doesn't matter that you -- >> right. >> it doesn't matter. that is the redistribution. >> that's the agal tearan notion or the equality, the fairness in outcome. >> i'll give it to him. we'll ask the question. >> i just hope you got fired up watching lance. >> i'm fired up watching lance. i'm fired up for that interview. >> i can tell he hurt you. i could tell from when you were over there, you

many workers were surprised to see higherpayrolltaxesinthe first paycheck of the year. it shrank take home earnings bys by 2% or more. a temporary cut in social security and medicare taxes expired as part of the fiscal cliff compromise. >>> and sunny california has turned into shivering california. frost and freezing temperatures are blanketing the state for the fourth night in a row. so far, citrus growers say they protected their crops using water and heaters. no significant crop damage is reported. overnight temperatures in los angeles over the weekend were in the 30s and in the 20s near san francisco. that's why everybody was cold. >> and we were >>> that's why i love the weather. it's always strange. and it is very cold out there right now. in fact, chilly temperatures in the bay area in the 20s and the 30s. we're currently under a freeze warning at this time. nice and clear. that cold air setting overhead freeze warnings up in many of the valleys. temperatures these numbers in the 20s and 30s. by the afternoon, highs only expected to be in the 40

burden on the bar were. monthly deaths of the consumer, suchastaxesandinsurance, generally cannot add up to more than 43% of their monthly gross income. no standard is perfect, but the standard here provides a clear line with a measure of protection to borrowers that have increased certainty in the mortgage market. host: i want to bring in a few callers on this subject for you. oklahoma city, oklahoma, democratic line. good morning, vernon. caller: i am tickled to death that the government is setting the rules for the financial industry when it comes to the home market. people worked all their lives to provide a home and held for ways to get it paid off before they retire. this is the one area that the government needs to regulate and regulate closely and i am glad we're finally doing that. now, of course, we have drawn a line in the sand that we can hopefully reclaim. can we hope that it will ever change back to what we thought we had been through? guest: an excellent question. another one to add to that is -- will the regulators have the appetite to regulate this closely? making sur

, the president signed into law. >> there will be nomoretax-funded bailouts.period. >> years of spending added up and the debt ceiling talks of 2011 led to a budget standoff between democrats and republicans who had taken back control of the house in the mid-terms. >> is there a risk that the united states could lose its triple-a credit rating, yes or no? >> no risk of that. >> no risk. >> the debt ceiling was raised in august, the political fight and the spotlight on the count row's deficit and debt problems led s&p to downgrade the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> geithner steered the major economic moves in the first term, now he's stepping down at treasury. the pick to replace him is jack lew, who has established a close relationship with the president. he is know chummy with the republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation. for that reason and other, his looming confirmation hearing could be bumpy. but if confirmed, lew will likely be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the count re's long-term fisc

considered, as we take you back out here live, higher fares andeventaxmeasures.but again a lot of people taking bart this morning. a lot of people heading for the door. let's take a live look at our traffic this morning. sal, how is it looking? >>> it's not too bad. people are taking bart. the bart system does look good right now. no major delays reported by them. let's take a look at some of the roads. highway 4, we had an earlier crash at the willow pass off ramp. it did not affect highway 4 too much. people couldn't really see it off the freeway. no major problems. there is slowing in antioch this morning. at the bay bridge toll plaza, it has been backed up for about a 20-minute late, maybe agent bit more than that now. eight kind of crowded. once on the bridge it does look good into the city. 85 and 280 or slow. the pa minutes remark traffic looks -- peninsula, traffic looks snake on 101 and 280 -- looks good on 101 and 280. >>> san jose has had a little bit of a breeze this morning. looks like it's tailing off. that's allowing temperatures to drop. i tried to put together a whole bu

demands the wealthy pay their fair shareoftaxes. but,he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids, and gun free zones for ours. >> all right. the white house called the ad repugnant and cowardly. i think they are right. can i say something about this partisan back and forth. we have just come out of a heinous mass murder atrocity which is of course a complete national tragedy. all right. is it possible, just once that the republicans and the nra and democrats and the president can stop this cheap unseemly squabbling just once? may we have a civilized conversation about what this nation can do to avoid another horrible sandy hook? all i want, all i want is a civil conversation. there's a lot of very complex pieces here and they need the best minds to figure this out. i just want the squabbling to stop. this is worst than the fiscal squabbling and the debt ceiling. you know why? the stakes are higher. we're talking human lives. those little baby angels. let's try in their memory to figure something out if stead of hurling epitha

the commerce clause. >> right. >> what he said was it wasatax. >>must have been a mix-up in the prenotes of the preinterview. but let's see a shot in freeze frame. this is the face of a truly confused man. the elevator doesn't go all the way to the top here, folks. if only sean hannity would listen to his boss, he might not be so confused. "the constitutional right about guns is for self-defense and hunting. founders did not mean modern weapons of war." lining up the crazy is not a difficult task for the right wing these days. but this rhetoric and hysteria i think is very dangerous. there is no basis to call the president of the united states a tyrant or a dictator, and no president ever deserves to be compared to stalin or hitler. but of course it continues. it happened earlier this week. someone needs to be an adult in the room to tell them to cool it. you know? this is america. but abusing the first amendment really is not good. there is a responsibility when you're in front of a camera and you have a microphone. and if this is the way they want to use it, what do you think is going

. and this is not just the party of the wealthy, he said, and oflowertaxes. ithas to be, you know, many republicans don't make as much money and pay a much higher percentage of their income in taxes, and they need the party's help, too. i thought he made so many. that was such a potent -- what was it, 30 minutes? >> it really was, but mika, let's talk about the people that want to buy bushmasters. yes, gun sales are moving at a rapid pace. a lot of people are buying two or three. >> they were buying as many as they can get. >> just to keep up with their survivalist neighbors. >> right. >> you can't have enough of those clips, right? >> apparently not. >> maybe they string them around their christmas trees. i don't know what they do with them. but steve rattner, this is the problem the republican party has made. this is the mistake the republican party's made. they listen to the loudest voices. a small, small percentage of americans. and americans, by the way, who don't swing presidential elections. i have been saying it ad nauseam for four years and making extremist conservatives very upset. you do

back to california. governor jerry brown says he's fixed the state budget byincreasingtaxesandkeeping a tight rein on spending. he declared an end to the state's prison crisis. correspondent spencer michels sat down with the governor earlier this week in an interview for the pbs "newshour." in this segment, they discuss whether california is really out of the woods and the governor's plans for the future. >> governor jerry brown, thanks very much for talking with us. >> sure. >> governor, proposition 30 in california was sold that it would help the schools and almost exclusively help the schools. are the california schools out of the woods? >> you say out of the woods. we live in the woods, so we don't get out of the woods. but the money is definitely going to the schools. it's very helpful. we're paying down the debt. the state took in borrowing $2.7 billion from the schools and over the next five years we're going to pay back our debts to the schools from the state and they're going to see per kid over about $2,300 per kid for all 6 million kids in california. it's going

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