I write this as a fan of both the Battlefield and Call of Duty series. They're different games with their own advantages and disadvantages and I like both for different reasons and both have their flaws.

But in one area the Battlefield series is clearly superior to CoD and that is sniping. In Battlefield, sniping is truly a "skill" since the sniper rifles are subject to the same in-game physics as other weapons. This means that achieving a one-hit-kill head shot requires the sniper to allow for both bullet drop and flight time.

Meanwhile, in CoD, sniping "skill" is not based on game physics mechanics involving gravity and bullet speed. Instead it's based solely on exploiting the auto-aim/built-in AimBot feature which ELIMINATES the need to aim carefully. In other words, it's the OPPOSITE of sniping. It's just a built-in AimBot enhanced by the fact that most of the sniper rifles are one-hit kill weapons competing against other weapons which require multiple hits to kill.

That's one reason that when playing CoD I stick to hardcore mode: all weapons are on a more even footing when it comes to time-to-kill. Play any BLOPS II session in regular mode and the sound of gunfire is dominated by snipers using the built-in AimBot system to rapid fire without the need to aim. Play BLOPS II hardcore mode and the gunfire sounds are far more diverse.

I know that CoD built-in AimBot users (aka "snipers") are worried about changes to the AimBot feature wrt sniper rifles. But for the rest of us, it would be nice to be able to play regular CoD modes without having to face one-hit-kill AimBot enhanced weapons for a change. OTOH, Activision knows that a big part of their CoD audience has become dependent on their built-in AimBot 1HK feature (calling them "snipers" is an insult to the skill-based snipers in Battlefield) so the AimBot 1HK players probably don't have much to worry about.

If also find it weird that players claim to be good at core, then try it in hc only to get spanked. Either way you look at it they are different modes and should be looked at as such. The never ending argument is old. Play what you like. But trying to get a dig in just to feel a little better about yourself says a lot.

The only thing about Ghosts sniping that concerns me is that, if they take away aim-assist all the crybabies will have absolutely no excuse when I get the better of them in CQB.. God forbid they might have to admit to being outplayed by another player! What a tragedy that will be

I like the fact, that the people who complain about snipers on Call of Duty are the ones who can't kill them lol..I love getting messages from people who I kill over and over again with a sniper..They say "Sniping requires no skill"...So I then use hardest class to use and that is the riot shield..Then the same thing happens to them again, but this time no sniper.. "Rage Quit"

BF3 sniping takes more skill to do, true. However if you've played the BF4 beta, you should know they've taken skill out of that game for most guns, sniping is way too easy and most guns have no recoil now. COD sniping is more fun and action packed, plus on COD you're playing in smaller maps so they're not going to make you have to wait 20 seconds before you can get the perfect shot and judge the bullet drop like on BF. If the sniping in COD was the same as BFs, then no one and I mean no one would use them because they would just get killed all the time.

If you don't know by now that the BF3 beta wasn't the actually game of BF3 it was an earlier version, same with the beta for BF4 and earlier version of the game. BF4 sniping will require the same amount of skill that BF3 sniping required.

I, too, play both BF and COD. I've preordered Ghosts and BF4. But, I really don't compare the two. They are both war games, but that's where the similarities end. If I get annoyed, or bored by BF, I switch to COD. That goes both ways.

This is a COD forum, so I'm not gonna slam one over the other. I play both. Enough said.

BF fanboi trying to tout how bf will be a better game.. just like any other bf is better than cod thread that ends up here when new games are about to be released.. just a bf fanboi hoping on drawing cod players to bf.

Not really, I could use a SR on BF just the same as any Cod game and barely had to adjust how I did either. Just had to account for bullet drop over long ranges. Other than that they work pretty much the same when they are used in same general range that CoD maps allow for.

You clearly haven't played Battlefield Bad Company 2 it's the reason why Battlefield 3 has to have it 2 shot kill because they could cross map no scope and quickscope with 75% chance to get a one shot kill so yea Call of Duty takes a lot more skill to snipe then Battlefield Bad Company 2 because that game didn't even have sway just imagine if they took out the hip fire disadvantage and sway out of Call of Duty how bad sniping would be. Battlefield 3 with out the two shot kill would take less skill to snipe.

COD sniping could be skillful, but only under circumstances that we rarely get in game. I remember playing the map Crossfire in COD4, having to take up a position without being seen, and having to steady out to line up sights on your enemy's head which would be just a couple tiny pixels in the distance. When you did land a shot like that, you were proud of yourself. But sadly, the concept of sniping in this series had abruptly died at the introduction of MW2. Sniper rifles are still there, a few of the maps may be big, but the odds of setting up in a deliberate position and deliberately aiming at targets in the distance are slim to none. It just doesn't happen any more.

If BF fans want everything to be realistic then why do snipers take 2 shots to kill in most cases?In real life if you got shot from a Barrett sniper from 500 metres away, the bullet travels through a 12" thick wall, their body would be no where to be found..COD has found an excellent balance of real and gaming world..For example the throwing knife is an excellent piece of equipment. But in reality if I threw a throwing knife into someone's leg, they would most likely just be shouting with pain and not die..

I think COD is more entertaining without even needing to find ways to make it entertaining unlike BF. BF is just boring and thus you need to find something to do that makes the game enjoyable like flying jets into tanks or helicopters.

Sniping is overpowered because call of duty hitboxes are retarded for example if I hardscope a foot I get a hitmarker but if I quickscope the foot I might get a headshot, this happens with other guns as well but is clearly more common with snipers for the last time I will say it aim assist is not the issue! Fix the hitboxes so there is no more cheap kills and I am fine with quickscopers

There is a very simple explanation for that. If you try to quickscope and fire before the game registers the transition to ADS accuracy (that first frame where the crosshairs become visible in your scope) then the shot will count as a hip fire and will travel along a random path within the hip-fire spread. Because this spread is so wide with snipers there is that possibility that you could be lucky and get a random head shot even though your quickscope was being aimed too low. It is important to remember also that the bullet trail does not represent the true flight path of the bullet but only gives an indication of where the shot came from.