I like small cars, Dave. Take a look at the average European street width and you would understand. Nothing against the models you mentioned, but most of the reviews make the Cooper S or JCW unbeatable on twisty roads.What i'm looking for is twisty country road fun. Most of my driving is on narrow urban roads, and roller-coaster country roads.I don't obey speed limits. :-)Cool is a factor too, so i think the Mini Cooper S will win. Going for another test drive tomorrow.

In Canada, the Mini sells. The Cooper S does well as does the Countryman - given the AWD. My neighbour has a JC Works Cooper S and it goes like stink (get that one Mike!).

The reason why I suggested the Ford is that the one we get here will run circles around the Cooper S. It is considerably faster in a straight line (250+ HP) but where it really excels is through the corners. It will easily rotate the rear although it is a FWD car.

Are you looking for FWD? If you would consider RWD, the Subaru BR-Z or Toyota Twin is quick, almost perfectly balanced, has RWD, and looks like Ferrari made it (in 1975...). The best thing is that it should be cheaper than the Cooper S. Not trying to talk you out of it, just providing options (BTW, the VW GTi is just as good as the Cooper but rides worlds better).

BMW 3 series? basically the same car, same price but less gimmicky/cool. Having driven both I think I would go with a 3 series personally just because more back room and I prefer the interior but might not be small enough for what you want?

The Mini has no overhang. Each wheel is at a corner. The handling is superb because of this.Can you tell i'm leaning towards the Cooper S? I'm not keen on the look of the JCW, but you can get a Cooper S set up exactly the same, sports chassis. etc.C

What i was meaning was you could pay an extra $3000 for a 'Media' package. You get a better music system, and hands free USB phone/music/voice protocol. Bollocks.I would rather pay the extra for a truer driving experience.A snarling engine is sweet music.