White CZ4A wrote:Guys.what is the cheapest entry level car available?Need one for a worker. Basically just a point A to point B car.

This response is a bit late but i just found out that the base Mazda 2 can be had for around 140K and their "Loaded" is around 150KI do not know what it gives up in regards to safety but as a point A to B car....I believe that is it.It comes with the 1.5 Sky aktive engine which i was told runs on super.

White CZ4A wrote:Guys.what is the cheapest entry level car available?Need one for a worker. Basically just a point A to point B car.

This response is a bit late but i just found out that the base Mazda 2 can be had for around 140K and their "Loaded" is around 150KI do not know what it gives up in regards to safety but as a point A to B car....I believe that is it.It comes with the 1.5 Sky aktive engine which i was told runs on super.

drchaos wrote:Is it a skyactiv transmission on the 2? Cause the mazda 3 still uses the old 4 speed automatic not the new 6 speed skyactiv.

I think Skyactiv refers to the engine and not the transmission.

Skyactiv is the whole drivetrain system, but you're right, the local 3 uses the old drivetrain in the new body, however the 2 is the 1.5 JDM spec Skyactiv drivetrain, engine and transmission I believe.

drchaos wrote:Is it a skyactiv transmission on the 2? Cause the mazda 3 still uses the old 4 speed automatic not the new 6 speed skyactiv.

I think Skyactiv refers to the engine and not the transmission.

Skyactiv is the whole drivetrain system, but you're right, the local 3 uses the old drivetrain in the new body, however the 2 is the 1.5 JDM spec Skyactiv drivetrain, engine and transmission I believe.

Even the body and chassis is skyactiv, supposed to be lighter and stiffer.

2WNBoost wrote:Be advised with the City you get warranty coverage for 50,000 Km. For me that's a deal breaker.

The 50k warranty only applies to the supplying of free parts by the company during the payback period. For example if you take the in one package this 50 k warranty will apply. The 100k warranty supercedes the 50 k warranty since it doesn't include the cost of parts and is the general warranty on the vehicle.

2WNBoost wrote:Be advised with the City you get warranty coverage for 50,000 Km. For me that's a deal breaker.

The 50k warranty only applies to the supplying of free parts by the company during the payback period. For example if you take the in one package this 50 k warranty will apply. The 100k warranty supercedes the 50 k warranty since it doesn't include the cost of parts and is the general warranty on the vehicle.

2WNBoost wrote:Be advised with the City you get warranty coverage for 50,000 Km. For me that's a deal breaker.

The 50k warranty applies to free parts under the in one package. There is the 100k standard warranty that supercedes the 50k , since it's not based on free parts but on the manufacturers warranty for the vehicle.

For those involved in the original discussion of the pros and cons of the new 2016 Hilux concerning the older 3.0 motor vs the newer 2.8 in regards to the compatibility to our diesel, I have arrived at a conclusion for the benefit of all would-be purchasers ie. This morning about an hr ago around the QPS, I saw a silver TDK registered Hilux Revo 2.8 with an NP logo on the front doors. So if NP could buy it and put this poor quality diesel in it and it working fine....who am I and the rest of John Public to question the long-term performance of the 2.8? Take done yes. Regular servicing it is.

2WNBoost wrote:Be advised with the City you get warranty coverage for 50,000 Km. For me that's a deal breaker.

The 50k warranty applies to free parts under the in one package. There is the 100k standard warranty that supercedes the 50k , since it's not based on free parts but on the manufacturers warranty for the vehicle.

Well the backside salesman lost out on some commission on a couple sales as he kept talking about 50,000Km warranty on this and 50,000Km warranty on that. Effin waste of time.

acesinghit wrote:For those involved in the original discussion of the pros and cons of the new 2016 Hilux concerning the older 3.0 motor vs the newer 2.8 in regards to the compatibility to our diesel, I have arrived at a conclusion for the benefit of all would-be purchasers ie. This morning about an hr ago around the QPS, I saw a silver TDK registered Hilux Revo 2.8 with an NP logo on the front doors. So if NP could buy it and put this poor quality diesel in it and it working fine....who am I and the rest of John Public to question the long-term performance of the 2.8? Take done yes. Regular servicing it is.

yeah but joe the black Isuzu dmax's they have older than 2 years. equip, I didn't know the rampersads leased Hilux's I suppose anything is possible now in "hard" times and 1uzfe the answer is dohc + EFI even faglal could have answered that.

acesinghit wrote:yeah but joe the black Isuzu dmax's they have older than 2 years. equip, I didn't know the rampersads leased Hilux's I suppose anything is possible now in "hard" times and 1uzfe the answer is dohc + EFI even faglal could have answered that.

acesinghit wrote:yeah but joe the black Isuzu dmax's they have older than 2 years. equip, I didn't know the rampersads leased Hilux's I suppose anything is possible now in "hard" times and 1uzfe the answer is dohc + EFI even faglal could have answered that.

Point is you haven't based purchasing on how the vans held up over time but based on the fact that a state company bought them... That makes no sense. Why is that a measure of how it will cope with local diesel? ...... But don't mind me, what do I know ?

I assumed NP would have gone through a typical procurement process which involved overall evaluation of the vehicle and its specs before a purchase was made. I also assumed some form of expert opinion was sought first on determining what pickup to buy and which recipients were short listed to respond to the request for quote or tender. But i may be over thinking the entire process it could just mean a random dealer just got lucky and all NP wanted was a pickup or 2. Lets see how it stands up in the long run.

acesinghit wrote:I assumed NP would have gone through a typical procurement process which involved overall evaluation of the vehicle and its specs before a purchase was made. I also assumed some form of expert opinion was sought first on determining what pickup to buy and which recipients were short listed to respond to the request for quote or tender. But i may be over thinking the entire process it could just mean a random dealer just got lucky and all NP wanted was a pickup or 2. Lets see how it stands up in the long run.

acesinghit wrote:I assumed NP would have gone through a typical procurement process which involved overall evaluation of the vehicle and its specs before a purchase was made. I also assumed some form of expert opinion was sought first on determining what pickup to buy and which recipients were short listed to respond to the request for quote or tender. But i may be over thinking the entire process it could just mean a random dealer just got lucky and all NP wanted was a pickup or 2. Lets see how it stands up in the long run.

This is probably how the process should be approached. In reality, if it indeed is a lease, it's anything goes. NP doesn't have to do any maintenance as this will be the responsibility of the leasing company. Also with Normal leasing arrangements, within a normal 3 year lease period, they making back the cost of the vehicle. So after that, worst case change some engines and sell or re-lease to another company. $$$

I questioned recently how come you weren't my number one fan for a while but you have returned and removed any doubts I had. You 2 fags have a lot more reading of my posts to come and a lot more beating up to swallow.