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I seriously Dropped this anime. had gone very well, with a good advertising campaign, a good first episode, good directing, good graphics ... however, has been increasingly falling. That is a lot of things happen in the second episode without meaning, in the third as well ... I'm sorry I'm Italian, I'll translate and paste a post I wrote a while ago ...

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Episode 2.

Mio God

This anime in my opinion is a sunk an abyss of mud and shit from which it can not be recovered again XD That sucks XD

The first episode was very cute and the anime would be seen if only for the scenery and beautiful designs ... but the plot is now completely fucked XD

That is, I have no words, this episode was bullshit u crescendo of hallucinating. Apart from that the director loses much tone, enough stuff happens during the episode, but the characters are very driven, helpless, ARE NOT emotions. The plot has taken a totally direction shown to an audience exclusively feminine! While in the previous one the vision of the soul was pleasant and learn from the point of view of the sex of the viewer ... this second episode instead is definitely dedicated to girls.

Then the plot in my opinion can be completely **** e! Senseless things happen, one after the other! Of the series ... "Because she says he can call his mother only that cell phone? But fuck, I do not have the number? Why run away in that abruptly from the trip so quietly? Would you do not notice the teachers who have disappeared for hours? How did the Christian to know where they were? Because the "chick" is possessed at that moment!? "

That is ... bhò .... it seems to me that everything in the case and, above all, here I hated the HUMAN REACTIONS!! (As common Yotobi reminds us LOL)

That is, this girl the hallucinating these things happen, these frightening trip where you see these men covered with dark aura, and also reacts passively enough! THAT IS HAS NO SENSE! Yes, he is afraid, but you do not ask the reason for everything! passively accept this nonsense and says "there are malignant presence" and that's it. And looks good as well LOL! And after a while the boy believes her and shit on him he too! But what!?

Then half of the episode is a tremendous boredom, it does not happen a shit. 2 fleeing their hand in hand for 10 minutes with no action taken something relevant was really nauseating and more YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND A CA ** OR SITUAZIOEN! That is, but what the fuck is costing you explain why she was separated from her mother, and 2 because all have the same power, what precisely the relationship between the father and the mother's guardian bastard etc. ....

But the thing that makes me angry is that the effect of "mystery" of the anime is completely gone fucked up XD

I shall be the third episode out of curiosity but I was very disappointed and unpleasantly surprised by this sudden change of management.

Undoubtedly I have expressed severe criticism, but the beauty of the first episode had consolidated a good narrative for this anime ... I was blown away and instead of facing a decline of this kind in the second ...

What do you think?

EDIT: I forgot ... except more surprises in the third episode ... for now it drop .... the third episode but I will tell ... I think I know what kind of death will die this anime now XD

This episode was something I'd been waiting for since the show started, Izumiko's first real brush with something really big and potentially dangerous. (Wamiya was dangerous, too, but at least he wasn't Kuzuryuu...)

I expected Manatsu to come back, but it was still a relief that he was saved. He and Mayura are my favorite characters in this show, too bad that their role seems to be mostly over. I expect from next week we'll either start the actual plot, and/or start delving into the whole business with Miyuki and Yukimasa. (I wonder if what the himegami told Kuzuryuu was foreshadowing.)

The revelations were interesting - so apparently Masumi is not a ghost, he's one of Kuzuryuu's heads taken human form, a la Wamiya... And Manatsu seems to be aware of this, so I don't quite understand what he intended to do in the first place. He wanted to be absorbed into Kuzuryuu? But how would that guarantee that he could stay with Mayura in spirit form? Also, if Masumi is not "connected" to Manatsu with the Power of Twins/Triplets, I don't quite understand how the two of them are supposed to balance each other, as Mayura said... Did I miss something? Anyway, I wonder how this incident will affect Mayura and Manatsu. And Masumi too.

Btw, "it's like a snake" - have you ever seen a snake's eye, Izumiko? (OK, it's the animators' fault.)

Also, apparently the himegami is currently possessing Izumiko's mom because Izumiko is not strong enough yet to deal with her on her own?

By the way, Izumiko's mom was a letdown. Appears out of nowhere, is totally cool, dresses like some adventurer, saves the day, disappears into the forest... she even puts on sunglasses, ffs. -_-) I wouldn't mind something like this in a more lighthearted anime, but she felt really out of place here. Oh well, at least I heard Paku Romi, it's been a while.

Also, the episode was cut off by the ED at a really weird point, there was no real closure at all... :/ The post-ED segment was interesting in that the crow a few episodes earlier was really Wamiya - so that's why Miyuki had wings, I was worried he just manifested them out of nowhere by the Rule of Cool. I could've lived without the whole "so you're into that type" thing... I don't know about the novel, but the anime's way of handling the romance is still boring and clichéd.

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Ahaa, I think I get it.

Spoiler for Masumi:

Masumi may not be actually Masumi, but since he was "given form" by Mayura and Manatsu (and perhaps Masumi himself if he was still alive then) and he's basically made up of their thoughts and feelings, technically he is Masumi. In a way. Or perhaps Kuzuryuu took Masumi as a sacrifice? According to a legend people used to sacrifice humans to him. So Masumi died, but Kuzuryuu decided to take on his form to have some fun while the rest of him was locked up in that cave, and perhaps find a way to free himself. And now Manatsu almost became a sacrifice - actually, this would explain why Mayura said that Masumi is taking Manatsu away.

In any case, since Masumi will never change, Manatsu decided to merge with him somehow so he can also become "frozen" in time before he dies.

Two humans. :3 And both spirits are pretty elite (just watch this episode to find out about Masumi) so they're absolutely worthy of being counted in a harem....

By the way I checked the novel titles, and apparently with episode 8 we've just finished volume 3. I'm sure they're cutting and streamlining liek whoa, so kudos to the writers that it doesn't show in the actual anime. I hope this won't change in the future... (there are 3 volumes remaining)

Although I still find that this show is not making any sense, but I like the supernatural settings, and the art (especially that wtf dragon out of the rock thing towards the end of the episode). and the goddess appearing again.

I have no idea what is going on in the story besides.. . ."magic" lol but I still like it. . .

Although I hate the souda sis for being such a bitch, and attacking her friends in some weird ass forest. . .and then everyone being "okay" with it (even the brother. . .) what the hell people. These aren't friends. . .if you're going to do shit like that, why meet them in the first place?

I thought the student council girls were being bitches and being rude for "calling her out" in that setting in front of everyone(that just does not happen with Japanese people. . .ever unless they're going to put a beat down on someone) and then trying to exorcize her brother/goddess/whatever too but. . .after seeing what the sister did after that to her "friends." I'd say she deserved. . .a beat down lol.

well at least I know the male mc wont be going on any trips anytime soon. Seems like you can't trust anyone in that damn show.

Masumi may not be actually Masumi, but since he was "given form" by Mayura and Manatsu (and perhaps Masumi himself if he was still alive then) and he's basically made up of their thoughts and feelings, technically he is Masumi. In a way. Or perhaps Kuzuryuu took Masumi as a sacrifice? According to a legend people used to sacrifice humans to him. So Masumi died, but Kuzuryuu decided to take on his form to have some fun while the rest of him was locked up in that cave, and perhaps find a way to free himself. And now Manatsu almost became a sacrifice - actually, this would explain why Mayura said that Masumi is taking Manatsu away.

In any case, since Masumi will never change, Manatsu decided to merge with him somehow so he can also become "frozen" in time before he dies.

I guess it's something like that, the anime can be really confusing
There's still something I don't understand

Spoiler for 8:

According to Miyuki, Wamiya had that face because it's Suzuhara's type. So in the end it's coincidental that Takayanagi shared the same face? I mean I don't think Takayanagi changed his face for Suzuhara so it's just coincidental that he has the type of faces she "likes"

BTW her mom was just... random. Hope they can clearly explain in the next episodes the whole goddess deal because I didn't fully understand her mother's explanation.

This is the most confusing episode I have ever seen... I don't know whether I should call Mayura's brother as Manatsu or Masumi. If they merge, one personality will dominate the other.

Manatsu and Masumi are not the same person, they have never been. One of the revelations of the episode was that Masumi is not only not the ghost of Mayura & Manatsu's brother, he's never been human in the first place. See how he talks about humans changing so fast, or about playing Masumi. He's Kuzuryuu, the nine-headed dragon king who is being locked up in Togakushi.

I think I've got it figured out.

So, we have the triplets, Mayura, Manatsu & Masumi. (Given that Mayura is a girl while the other two are boys, plus they share the same health defect, I think it's easy to see why Manatsu thinks of himself as Masumi's "other half" - they must've been monozygotic. I don't know if it's biologically possible or not, though.) Anyway, one day Masumi succumbs to his heart defect and dies. His grief-stricken siblings who have very strong spiritual powers wish for him to come back, and via this wish they accidentally summon the local deity, who becomes "Masumi" as he existed in the kids' memory. (Which is why Miyuki says at the end that Wamiya looked like he did as a human because that's how Izumiko wanted him to look like. In the Soudas' case it's easier since human Masumi most likely looked the same as Manatsu.)

Later on Manatsu becomes all too well aware that he doesn't have much of a future since his health defect means he can die anytime. But Mayura is strong and healthy - so Manatsu, who knows how much Mayura loves him and how much she does for him, decides to let her live her life without her concern for him dragging her down. But since he also loves her and wants to stay with her, he decides to become one with Masumi, ie. die and turn into an unchanging spiritual entity. (I think he also thinks that this way he could be of use to Mayura.)

Meanwhile, Masumi has his own agenda. He knows that as much as he loves being Masumi and have fun interacting with humans and stuff, this is only because of Mayura & Manatsu. He knows this is not forever, since when Manatsu dies, or if Manatsu and Mayura are separated, it's all over. I'm not quite sure what his original plan was - maybe he just wanted to possess Manatsu's body, or maybe he wanted to use the opportunity created by Manatsu's death wish to try and break free of his prison. (I think this is where the sacrifice might come into the picture: by "consuming" Manatsu, whatever that means, Masumi/Kuzuryuu's power would grow.)

Enter Izumiko, and Masumi thinks "wow, cool, she could open the door for me! also, she looks tasty." (Remember when he asked her to "go out" with him? he was probably thinking of something like what he was planning with Manatsu.) So he leads her to the cave where he's being imprisoned, and tricks her into breaking down the rock blocking the entrance. Due to Izumiko's words Manatsu comes to his senses, realizes what's going on, and escapes in time. "Masumi" aka Kuzuryuu manages to escape anyway, but is stopped by the himegami/Izumiko's mom who sends him back to the cave and locks him up again.

I quite like the reveal of Masumi actually being this hugely dangerous, ominous entity. It has the usual message of "don't mess with the supernatural" and "he may look human but he isn't", but with a more personal twist, since as Masumi he still is Mayura and Manatsu's brother.

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Originally Posted by Bern-san

I guess it's something like that, the anime can be really confusing
There's still something I don't understand

Spoiler for 8:

According to Miyuki, Wamiya had that face because it's Suzuhara's type. So in the end it's coincidental that Takayanagi shared the same face? I mean I don't think Takayanagi changed his face for Suzuhara so it's just coincidental that he has the type of faces she "likes"

Yeah, I think he didn't mean that Takayanagi was personally involved, it's more about the type of face he has. Unlike Masumi whose looks were "modelled" on the human Masumi, Wamiya couldn't have been modelled on Takayanagi, so Miyuki assumes Wamiya looked like that because that's the kind of looks Izumiko is into.

Although I still find that this show is not making any sense, but I like the supernatural settings, and the art (especially that wtf dragon out of the rock thing towards the end of the episode). and the goddess appearing again.

I have no idea what is going on in the story besides.. . ."magic" lol but I still like it. . .

Although I hate the souda sis for being such a bitch, and attacking her friends in some weird ass forest. . .and then everyone being "okay" with it (even the brother. . .) what the hell people. These aren't friends. . .if you're going to do shit like that, why meet them in the first place?

I thought the student council girls were being bitches and being rude for "calling her out" in that setting in front of everyone(that just does not happen with Japanese people. . .ever unless they're going to put a beat down on someone) and then trying to exorcize her brother/goddess/whatever too but. . .after seeing what the sister did after that to her "friends." I'd say she deserved. . .a beat down lol.

well at least I know the male mc wont be going on any trips anytime soon. Seems like you can't trust anyone in that damn show.

Yeah I'm really confused too It feels like I'm missing something every episode. It is as if many parts aren't explained. I'll scout around here for some more clues.

Well, it's taken 9 episodes but the plot is starting to thicken, and it's getting pretty interesting. I'm glad I've stuck with this show for so long.

Spoiler for ep 9:

Why hello, Miyano Mamoru in a guest role. Why can't he get more roles where he has to use this voice instead of that deep one he can't pull off well... (same goes for Fukuyama, by the way)

While we're on the topic of seiyuu, I still don't understand why they had to give a different seiyuu to the himegami, but I don't mind too much because Tanaka Rie uses a very pretty voice and delivery, I could listen to it for hours. Kugimiya Rie is much better once her voice is not coming from a supposedly teenage boy. By the way, I had to laugh when Izumiko didn't recognize Hodaka - how can you not remember Ishida Akira's voice?

The big revelations continue, this time about the himegami who is apparently... what the hell is she? Apparently she used to be a human belonging to the Suzuhara family (so all that Hachiouji foreshadowing in the A part was just a red herring?), but she had/has an enormous, mysterious power that can command kami, destroy humanity, and manifest purple eyeshadow at will, so obviously she wasn't an average human (if she was really human at all?!). In the second future she was declared a world heritage and had her brain and ovaries preserved for study... (hey, since when does UNESCO kill off members of Red List species? ) I'm not exactly sure how they managed to do it, though, if she's only possessing peop--

Oh.

Well, if my hunch is right and the himegami was originally Izumiko, this will be a nice twist, similar to that of Noein. It also ties nicely into the power struggle at the school - again if my hunch is right and the person who destroyed humanity in the second future is someone who is now involved in the school matters (Takayanagi? Mayura?)... wow, this is going to be interesting. There are still things waiting to be explained, though... (Including the whole bit with Wamiya. What is it that the himegami doesn't remember?)

Himegami aside, I think this is the first time I feel that some important things are missing, re: the Souda siblings and the Togakushi incident. Nobody talked about it in this episode, but the incident was too big to only serve as a way to showcase Wamiya being merged with Miyuki. Also, why make Mayura such a "bro-con" if it's not important to the story in some way? I wonder if this is the source material's fault or there's a subplot that has fallen victim to editing... I think I'll have to read the book...

Yukimasa is still creepy.

PS: I'm still not feeling the whole Miyuki x Izumiko romance thing. Especially after seeing the novel covers. Someone forgot to tell the artist that Izumiko is 15 and not 10.

Well, it's taken 9 episodes but the plot is starting to thicken, and it's getting pretty interesting. I'm glad I've stuck with this show for so long.

Spoiler for ep 9:

Why hello, Miyano Mamoru in a guest role. Why can't he get more roles where he has to use this voice instead of that deep one he can't pull off well... (same goes for Fukuyama, by the way)

While we're on the topic of seiyuu, I still don't understand why they had to give a different seiyuu to the himegami, but I don't mind too much because Tanaka Rie uses a very pretty voice and delivery, I could listen to it for hours. Kugimiya Rie is much better once her voice is not coming from a supposedly teenage boy. By the way, I had to laugh when Izumiko didn't recognize Hodaka - how can you not remember Ishida Akira's voice?

The big revelations continue, this time about the himegami who is apparently... what the hell is she? Apparently she used to be a human belonging to the Suzuhara family (so all that Hachiouji foreshadowing in the A part was just a red herring?), but she had/has an enormous, mysterious power that can command kami, destroy humanity, and manifest purple eyeshadow at will, so obviously she wasn't an average human (if she was really human at all?!). In the second future she was declared a world heritage and had her brain and ovaries preserved for study... (hey, since when does UNESCO kill off members of Red List species? ) I'm not exactly sure how they managed to do it, though, if she's only possessing peop--

Oh.

Well, if my hunch is right and the himegami was originally Izumiko, this will be a nice twist, similar to that of Noein. It also ties nicely into the power struggle at the school - again if my hunch is right and the person who destroyed humanity in the second future is someone who is now involved in the school matters (Takayanagi? Mayura?)... wow, this is going to be interesting. There are still things waiting to be explained, though... (Including the whole bit with Wamiya. What is it that the himegami doesn't remember?)

Himegami aside, I think this is the first time I feel that some important things are missing, re: the Souda siblings and the Togakushi incident. Nobody talked about it in this episode, but the incident was too big to only serve as a way to showcase Wamiya being merged with Miyuki. Also, why make Mayura such a "bro-con" if it's not important to the story in some way? I wonder if this is the source material's fault or there's a subplot that has fallen victim to editing... I think I'll have to read the book...

Yukimasa is still creepy.

PS: I'm still not feeling the whole Miyuki x Izumiko romance thing. Especially after seeing the novel covers. Someone forgot to tell the artist that Izumiko is 15 and not 10.

Yes! This is an awesome episode in a way and I also agree with you. We also now found out that she's someone from the future. It's also nice that someone other than me just thought that perhaps Himegami really is Izumiko. It just the way she acts around Miyuki and how she looked sad when Miyuki does not seem to know that Himegami is in fact Izumiko... if she really is Izumiko.

EDIT: Also but Wamiya was supposedly "created" by Izumiko but according to Himegami, Wamiya is her underling so if both are true, then Himegami = Izumiko. Also Himegami said that she already knows the spell that Miyuki uses although it could be that she learned all of that from others monks over generations...

Welp, there are lots of hints pointing that the Himegami is actually Izumiko herself, who came from the future (for the third time) to stop the destruction of humanity.

I'm not sure if the Himegami remembers who she really is though (Wamiya implies she's forgotten something). Perhaps she only remembers her mission and thinks Izumiko is just one more girl of her blood line. I'm no sure on this.

Best episode, finally things are getting really interesting and an unexpected Miyano performance.
After reading the comments it does seem likely that Himegami=Izumiko although to think the difference in personalities But still I don't understand what exactly is she, like she said in the episode, with her power it's difficult to think that she's just a human.
And they should stop making Izumiko wear make-up.

If Himegami=Izumiko is right, does Yukimasa know it? If so, why is he so creepy and looks like he wants to bang her? Scumbag father who wants his son's girlfriend

Also, after Himegami's comment about how she knows Miyuki's spells, do you think that maybe the seals he taught Izumiko were actually the ones which made her appear? I found weird the timing of her appearance and with the braids.