MINDVVIPE wrote:I consider a death to set the mood quite well for a war that has been raging on for too long.

I don't have an issue with characters dying. It's how their death is handled that matters, and the way they off the much-hyped Cliffjumper like they did felt like a cheap cop-out.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Obi Wan dying set the mood pretty well for the rest of the movie, are you going to tell me episode IV wasn't a humble beginning? And I know its a movie compared to a show, but they both are aiming at young and mature audiences. Perhaps that isn't the best example since his death wasn't so graphic, but well, it was clearly meant to appeal to fans that wanted to see something new.. and I haven't seen a death of an Autobot that brutal before.

Thing is, Obi Wan's death was neither at the beginning nor badly handled. We got to know the guy very well, and the humbleness of the beginning was all with C-3PO and R2D2 up to when they meet Luke. by the time Obi Wan is killed, we're well past the humble beginning.

With Cliffjumper, they built up all this hype to him being this must-see cool character, yet we don't get to see him for more than five minutes before he's completely wasted.

And then when his corpse gets the Terrorcon treatment and keeps getting maimed again and again until he's finally just blown up, it's like they want us to go, "OKAY! WE GET IT! You're not gonna let us enjoy Cliffjumper in this show! STOP HAMMERING THIS INTO OUR US!"

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Motto:"We Live for the One, We Die for the One, But we dont Die Stupidly."

Weapon: Twin Swords

I dont know about the kids and right now I dont really care as I more insterested in the serious isuues the kids/humans have always been a Secondary factor to me.

The reason I loved Beast Wars so much cause less humans more on them which Is what I am loving on Prime Season 2 it focuses more on how they do battle and other issues without worrying about humans or the kids like babysisters.

I dont know about the future right now I am worried about the here & now such as The Omega Lock, Starscreams Plot, Regeneration of Cybertron. and how S2 will connect to Beast Hunters.

Finally the Physical appearance of Alpha Trion and more on Smokescreen these are more pressing matters than worrying about the humans and the kids at the moment.

MINDVVIPE wrote:I consider a death to set the mood quite well for a war that has been raging on for too long.

I don't have an issue with characters dying. It's how their death is handled that matters, and the way they off the much-hyped Cliffjumper like they did felt like a cheap cop-out.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Obi Wan dying set the mood pretty well for the rest of the movie, are you going to tell me episode IV wasn't a humble beginning? And I know its a movie compared to a show, but they both are aiming at young and mature audiences. Perhaps that isn't the best example since his death wasn't so graphic, but well, it was clearly meant to appeal to fans that wanted to see something new.. and I haven't seen a death of an Autobot that brutal before.

Thing is, Obi Wan's death was neither at the beginning nor badly handled. We got to know the guy very well, and the humbleness of the beginning was all with C-3PO and R2D2 up to when they meet Luke. by the time Obi Wan is killed, we're well past the humble beginning.

With Cliffjumper, they built up all this hype to him being this must-see cool character, yet we don't get to see him for more than five minutes before he's completely wasted.

And then when his corpse gets the Terrorcon treatment and keeps getting maimed again and again until he's finally just blown up, it's like they want us to go, "OKAY! WE GET IT! You're not gonna let us enjoy Cliffjumper in this show! STOP HAMMERING THIS INTO OUR US!"

All that you dislike about the way they handled it is all that I like about it, so I guess we can agree to disagree. I am speaking from a Decepticon POV.Your right about Obi-Wan though, I just felt it was relevant since I felt I cared more about Obi-Wan than I did Cliffjumper.

THE POWERS OF DARKNESS ARE A MORE POWERFUL WEAPON THAN ALL THE TOYS YOUR SCIENCE CAN MUSTERDie, Autobots!

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

And he's being recasted, as Andy Pessoa hit puberty and needed to be replaced.

Is he? I would think as the character gets older, so would his voice.

Back at last year's NYCC panel, it was said that Raf would be getting recasted because of Andy Pessoa's voice changing.

Raf hasn't aged at the same rate as his voice actor since the episodes are spread out so far so time passes slower in the show than it does in real life.

My guess is that, based on Raf's absence in this recent batch of episodes, they were recasting him at the time at which these episodes were being made, and wrote in the relocation plot point to make up for it. Though, that still leaves Jack and Miko unaccounted for.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

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HITFIX wrote:Starscream proposes a truce with fully-recovered Decepticon leader Megatron, but his new righthand man Dreadwing threatens to stand in the way of the alliance, even going so far as to coax Megatron into subjecting Starscream to some sort of mind probe to see what he's really planning.

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

I didn't say I was surprised he got out. We all knew he got out, but it was how he got out that we were trying to figure out.

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'