The Catholic Church has had problems in every decade since Christ. There was bad Priests, Bishops and laity since day one. They all violated Catholic teachings and sinned.It will be that way for the next 2,000 yrs too. This is the reality when you're involved in spiritual warfare. Thankfully, the Church is infallible in her teachings on faith and morals so we will always have that unbreakable pillar to guide us.

Claypool says.....The Catholic Church has had problems in every decade since Christ. There was bad Priests, Bishops and laity since day one. They all violated Catholic teachings and sinned. It will be that way for the next 2,000 yrs too.

MICHAEL says..... If the Catholic church was a business, it would have gone out of business 1,990 years ago, according to your description.

...Is the church that dysfunctional that it can't learn from its mistakes?......and according to you, the same mistakes will continue for another 2,000 years.

What a poor track record. Is no one in the church correcting mistakes as they happen?

<quoted text>Does Anthony think only church going people are generous with their time and money?"The Bubble boy" needs to get into the real world where everyday good people live and do good deeds everyday.I think he has told me now maybe 15-20 times that he isn't going to post to many anymore. What a phoney!

Matthew 7:11

11If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

<quoted text>I should have taken bets! I knew that was what your response would be. That's not what I said, now is it? It's okay, the fundie, LTM, made the same comment. She doesn't have a clue either.Let me put it another way....do you think a woman has the right to choose abortion?

Regina M. says.......do you think a woman has the right to choose abortion?

Michael says......so its the MEN in the church who decide what a woman can do and not do with her body?

.....and its the BISHOPS/CARDINALS running the church that decides that women can NEVER become EQAUL to or one of them?

As a woman REGINA M. you have little, or no, decision making abilities in your life, because men in your church say so.

<quoted text>Matthew 7:1111If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

No No!!

Its called GOOD KARMA!

..It works for me, because life has always been good. Do a good deed, good deeds come back, with no God intervention..........at least not that I have ever experienced.

People pray and pray always wanting something. BILLIONS of prayers everyday beamed to God. Me, I figure things out. If there is a loving God recording my actions I am sure he says "keep up the good work Michael" you work well without supervision, and you never beg for anything.

<quoted text>Well you won't be the first one Regina, I am a very much in your face person. What I have to say I say directly to the person I find fault with, I don't go behind their back.I don't go to other people and make smart remarks about them,or poke fun when it comes to nasty things that have happened to them as children and they have had no control over.I disgusted you because I tell you the truth and it hurts, to know everything you believed in as a child is a big fat lie.You don't have to belong to a denomination to love and serve the Lord Regina.Its not about you and your church or anyone else its about Jesus .

Don't flatter yourself. You're disgusting because you're an ignorant bigot who takes pride in it. You couldn't tell the truth if your life depended on it. Even with this post you're still lying; it just never stops with you. Oh, yes, I just remembered, you once posted here that you had a serious problem in the past with telling lies. I'd forgotten about that, it explains a lot. No wonder......

Please don't talk about the Lord to me or anyone else. You have a nerve even mentioning Him in the same post with all your lies and bigotry. It's a wonder lightening doesn't strike you. Get down on your knees and ask forgiveness for your slander. Then when you're finished, you can ask me and the other Catholics here for forgiveness as well.

<quoted text>there is no indication that any of the swine would have known it was called that it was called an abyss and you know it. the Bible was speaking of an actual event, and the writer used the word Sea, not abyss, be accurate or be quiet.and here is what the verse says,And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.here we see that they said"send us into the swine", and that is where they went.but if you wish to be specific, we can do so. since we are in northern Israel, the langauge spoken would have been Syriac, and that dialect calls it a promentory not an abyss and then they fell into the sea.and if we really want to get technical, it possibly wasnt even the sea of galilee as one writer tells us where they were at and that place is called Gadara and some scholars believe this was the place since it also has some water that is very dangerous.so if it is that place ,the greek word doesnt enter into this.BEST NOT TO ADD TO HIS WORD AND THEN NO CONFUSION ENTERS INTO THE DISCUSSION, DO YOU AGREE?

preston

lol....This was Gentile territory. The swine didn't know the Sea was the Abyss, but the demons sure did, since that was their home....(But figurative language is not your forte. So I will just let it go. But thank you for your insight. It gives me pause to ponder this scripture more deeply. I had only saw the surface before, then figuratively, and its moving spiritually now....

And I guess you want to make this only an event. Thats okay by me. Literal and technical meanings are acceptable....Though I see figurative and spiritual meanings....No need to discuss them.(By the way it goes to the Apocalypse, since it was part of Rome..., the Decapolis(10 heads.....lol. Sorry, preston..., the Spirit just starts flowing out of the Scripture....)

<quoted text>When will you ever believe that God is the giver of EVERY THING!!!!When will you ever believe that God has created EVERY THING!!!!Ephesians 3:99 and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God,[[[[[who created all things.]]]]]Even the very AIR that we breath belongs to him.....Even our children belongs to him.....So sad that you don't believe this.....

I see that you skillfully avoided all logic and hid behind a bible verse.

Do you have a child? Would you have your child die, at my hands, just so you could forgive me?

<quoted text>I should have taken bets! I knew that was what your response would be. That's not what I said, now is it? It's okay, the fundie, LTM, made the same comment. She doesn't have a clue either.Let me put it another way....do you think a woman has the right to choose abortion?

What does my personal opinion matter? I vote for people who hold the same opinions as I do, but in the end, the Supreme Court called the shot.

Here is my opinion, I do not like or agree with abortion as a form of birth control. But when does life begin? A Zygote, in my opinion, is not a life.

Then we have to take the baby into consideration. How many babies are born into abusive families? How many babies are not adopted? When anti-abortionist are adopting all the unwanted babies, then I will believe they care.

In cases of rape, incest, or health, I am not going to force anyone to follow my, in a perfect world, opinion. I am not going to look down on them for making their decision.

<quoted text>Ecclesiastes 12:1313 Now all has been heard;here is the conclusion of the matter:Fear God and keep his commandments,for this is the duty of all mankind.Fact of life in which you DO NOT believe:We are Gods created beings created in service to Him and to do His will.

A fact? Really? You believe it, so it is fact? The bible says it, so it is fact? No Truth, it is not a fact. It is a claim made by the writers of the bible.

You are incapable of sitting back and reviewing what you believe and why you believe it.

If god wanted all of us to do his will, he would walk the Earth with us and answer our questions.

<quoted text>Don't flatter yourself. You're disgusting because you're an ignorant bigot who takes pride in it. You couldn't tell the truth if your life depended on it. Even with this post you're still lying; it just never stops with you.Oh, yes, I just remembered, you once posted here that you had a serious problem in the past with telling lies. I'd forgotten about that, it explains a lot. No wonder......Please don't talk about the Lord to me or anyone else. You have a nerve even mentioning Him in the same post with all your lies and bigotry. It's a wonder lightening doesn't strike you. Get down on your knees and ask forgiveness for your slander. Then when you're finished, you can ask me and the other Catholics here for forgiveness as well.

Lightening strikes?!?! Their is no one to throw them! LOL! Hey, Zeus! This person over here doesn't believe right! Would you hit them with a lightening bolt?

ROTFLMAO! The year is 2013 and you still hope for a god to strike people dead? LOL!

<quoted text>Have you ever sat down and thought about what you believe?You believe that a god needed his creation, to kill another one of his creations, so that the god could forgive them.If that was not bad enough! What did the animals ever do to deserve being killed? They were killed in the flood, even though god never said that they did anything wrong. They are required by your god to be killed, just so that god could forgive man?Does that make any sense to you?Move ahead a few years and the animals are just not doing it for god. No matter how many animals are being killed, for god, god just cannot get enough death, so that he can forgive man.What does he do? Depending on how you believe, he either creates a new "special" being or he splits himself into 3rd and send 1/3 of himself to Earth. To a very small community, on Earth, to be killed, just so god can forgive man. But that's not all. Not only did the jesus have to be tortured and killed, the 99% of the world that was not involved, has to blindly believe that all this happened, or they are damned to Hell!Sit down, read through it a few times and tell me, this makes prefect sense to you.

<quoted text>Lightening strikes?!?! Their is no one to throw them! LOL! Hey, Zeus! This person over here doesn't believe right! Would you hit them with a lightening bolt?ROTFLMAO! The year is 2013 and you still hope for a god to strike people dead? LOL!

??

Where did I say I "hoped" for it? It seems to me I said it was a wonder it doesn't. Lighten up! (no pun intended);)

Citation please - of your comparative atatement. One that includes this comparison."The Sea of Galilee was known as the Abyss."Citation please of this "truth" you supply."The swine did not decide to run into the Abyss. This was the only place reserved for demons to exist....(Not some invention of mine.)"- After all,you have stated that it is '(Not some invention of mine.)'Thanks!

Robert F wrote:

<quoted text>NASLFight or flight(citation enough)....The demon infested pigs could not prevail/fight against the Truth, and the demons fled/returned from where they came from, the Sea of Galilee, the Abyss.Note also while in a storm, the disciples thought they saw a "ghost" walking on the water, when it was Jesus. Beneath the troubled surface was where the demons "lived".I gave two sites to read concerning Galilee as being the Abyss.Maybe now you see the analogy of the Titanic going down to the deep cold Atlantic?

Again you divert from providing your citation. Why?

Making up things that are not true is misleading and causes misunderstanding.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Add your comments below

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite.
Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.