gardening tawk: Harvested 30+ tomatoes, 7 squash, a bunch of beans, 6 ears of corn, 8 carrots, 4 beets, and other shit. I woulda got more, but I filled the panniers to the max.

Spent this weekend scouting a backcountry area to blast bambi and bottoming out my taco on the drive. If I am lucky, we might have venison chili in a few weeks.

Dew it! Tonight I made elk chili out of meat a friend gave me, and a bunch of tomatoes and jalapenos I harvested today from our garden. Wife made one of the best cornbreads I've ever had to go with it. Yummm...

GO

If only someone could harvest all the deer from my backyard! Then I could have a garden tawk, too.

I love venison, but I wouldn't want to eat THESE vermin though. Considering the crap they eat, I'd rather have myself a tasty rat. Well, not really, but eating city deer is no better than eating rats. Grrr. I just want them DEAD.

Well the standard solution is a fence.

GO

There is a fence. They jump over it. The city doesn't allow a higher one.

How high is this fence. I thought the standard was 6ft allowed for a fence.

With a running start, they jump 6ft fence like it's nothing. The reason why 5-6ft tall fencing works for a small garden is because they won't jump if the landing isn't clear, or because they don't have room for a running start.

I've heard people talk about two fences, a 5-6ft tall and then another one a couple of feet away. Or a wire strung above the main fence.

But I need to protect a fairly big area, and it is an expensive proposition. For now I am just hoping my couple fruit trees survive with individual enclosures.

If deer are that bad I would suspect you have a bunch of bunnies too. They can cause a lot of damage to shurbs come winter.

Oh, no suspecting about it, I see them all the time. hate the little buggers, too.

For now, I am going with the "getting my veggies from the CSA plan". It is working splendidly so far. And when Heffe finally builds me a greenhouse, I will have some veggies there in winter.

But until then, as much as a love gardening, the trap-bunnies-and-shoot-the-deer-while-installing-12ft-tall-electric-fence-and-getting-a-mastiff thing just keeps ending up on the second page of my priority list.

Skip the rest, just get the mastiff. Jasper loves to chase deer, and he is adorbz.

Yes, you'll take of the the deer, but then you'll have a dog to take care of.

Whoa, just did a line at one of theist popular crags at the NRG, which now the guidebook author sez might have been an FA. Not gonna lie, the lead this morning took several years off my life, definitely the hardest moves I've done the farthest out from gear. Long, techy microcrimp crux that starts about six feet above a bomber nut, and ends maybe thirty feet above it. You're definitely in groundfallville for the last three crux moves.

Banz got money shots of the zend; whether or not it was an FA, I'm pretty psyched, as well as ready to sink into a drug induced haze of contemplating our fleeting mortality tonight. Holy shit.

gardening tawk: Harvested 30+ tomatoes, 7 squash, a bunch of beans, 6 ears of corn, 8 carrots, 4 beets, and other shit. I woulda got more, but I filled the panniers to the max.

Spent this weekend scouting a backcountry area to blast bambi and bottoming out my taco on the drive. If I am lucky, we might have venison chili in a few weeks.

Dew it! Tonight I made elk chili out of meat a friend gave me, and a bunch of tomatoes and jalapenos I harvested today from our garden. Wife made one of the best cornbreads I've ever had to go with it. Yummm...

GO

If only someone could harvest all the deer from my backyard! Then I could have a garden tawk, too.

I love venison, but I wouldn't want to eat THESE vermin though. Considering the crap they eat, I'd rather have myself a tasty rat. Well, not really, but eating city deer is no better than eating rats. Grrr. I just want them DEAD.

Well the standard solution is a fence.

GO

There is a fence. They jump over it. The city doesn't allow a higher one.

How high is this fence. I thought the standard was 6ft allowed for a fence.

With a running start, they jump 6ft fence like it's nothing. The reason why 5-6ft tall fencing works for a small garden is because they won't jump if the landing isn't clear, or because they don't have room for a running start.

I've heard people talk about two fences, a 5-6ft tall and then another one a couple of feet away. Or a wire strung above the main fence.

But I need to protect a fairly big area, and it is an expensive proposition. For now I am just hoping my couple fruit trees survive with individual enclosures.

If deer are that bad I would suspect you have a bunch of bunnies too. They can cause a lot of damage to shurbs come winter.

Oh, no suspecting about it, I see them all the time. hate the little buggers, too.

Maybe your deer eat mostly trash, but rabbits seem pretty discriminating. I bet they'd make good eating. Your kids may not see it that way though...

GO

Actually, after watching the rabbits munch with gusto on just-sprayed-with-roundup weeds, I wouldn't want to eat them, either.

Completely agree that rabbits in general make good eating. And my kids would eat them just fine, I think.

Hmm... you may have a poynte.

More importantly, you jerks notice the number of replies to this thread? There's a big number coming up. Who will roll over the odometer?

GO

Yore not that brite, are ewe?

yeah, no shit. 101k is not a millstone.

Obviously no, I'm not that brite if I'm still posting here. So I've got very old gu on me, no doubt. But it's still odd that the replies say just under 100K, while, based on the number of pages, the number of posts must actually be around 100,830. I imagine it has something to do with deleted posts, but beyond that, I'd have to play around to figure it out.

gardening tawk: Harvested 30+ tomatoes, 7 squash, a bunch of beans, 6 ears of corn, 8 carrots, 4 beets, and other shit. I woulda got more, but I filled the panniers to the max.

Spent this weekend scouting a backcountry area to blast bambi and bottoming out my taco on the drive. If I am lucky, we might have venison chili in a few weeks.

Dew it! Tonight I made elk chili out of meat a friend gave me, and a bunch of tomatoes and jalapenos I harvested today from our garden. Wife made one of the best cornbreads I've ever had to go with it. Yummm...

GO

If only someone could harvest all the deer from my backyard! Then I could have a garden tawk, too.

I love venison, but I wouldn't want to eat THESE vermin though. Considering the crap they eat, I'd rather have myself a tasty rat. Well, not really, but eating city deer is no better than eating rats. Grrr. I just want them DEAD.

Well the standard solution is a fence.

GO

There is a fence. They jump over it. The city doesn't allow a higher one.

How high is this fence. I thought the standard was 6ft allowed for a fence.

With a running start, they jump 6ft fence like it's nothing. The reason why 5-6ft tall fencing works for a small garden is because they won't jump if the landing isn't clear, or because they don't have room for a running start.

I've heard people talk about two fences, a 5-6ft tall and then another one a couple of feet away. Or a wire strung above the main fence.

But I need to protect a fairly big area, and it is an expensive proposition. For now I am just hoping my couple fruit trees survive with individual enclosures.

If deer are that bad I would suspect you have a bunch of bunnies too. They can cause a lot of damage to shurbs come winter.

Oh, no suspecting about it, I see them all the time. hate the little buggers, too.

Maybe your deer eat mostly trash, but rabbits seem pretty discriminating. I bet they'd make good eating. Your kids may not see it that way though...

GO

Actually, after watching the rabbits munch with gusto on just-sprayed-with-roundup weeds, I wouldn't want to eat them, either.

Completely agree that rabbits in general make good eating. And my kids would eat them just fine, I think.

Hmm... you may have a poynte.

More importantly, you jerks notice the number of replies to this thread? There's a big number coming up. Who will roll over the odometer?

GO

Yore not that brite, are ewe?

yeah, no shit. 101k is not a millstone.

Obviously no, I'm not that brite if I'm still posting here. So I've got very old gu on me, no doubt. But it's still odd that the replies say just under 100K, while, based on the number of pages, the number of posts must actually be around 100,830. I imagine it has something to do with deleted posts, but beyond that, I'd have to play around to figure it out.

GO

that number you've circled is the dogshit that the flies are constantly landing on.

Whoa, just did a line at one of theist popular crags at the NRG, which now the guidebook author sez might have been an FA. Not gonna lie, the lead this morning took several years off my life, definitely the hardest moves I've done the farthest out from gear. Long, techy microcrimp crux that starts about six feet above a bomber nut, and ends maybe thirty feet above it. You're definitely in groundfallville for the last three crux moves.

Banz got money shots of the zend; whether or not it was an FA, I'm pretty psyched, as well as ready to sink into a drug induced haze of contemplating our fleeting mortality tonight. Holy shit.

Oh, and rematch with the Gauley tomorrow, woo!

Nice jorb! Yeah, Banz did show us all the photos of you, as well as pictures of his new girlfriend (cute! I hear you got to meet her on Friday), and all the other things that Banz likes to show people.

Nice weekend here, too, as the spray-a-gram recipients already know.

I accidentally flashed the route that is supposedly the same grade as my hardest redpoint. I got on it, thinking that it would be a nice project for the fall, maybe not a long-term one, but definitely a few-goes kind of route, and a nice way to get into the overhanging endurance, after doing the training thing.

But I went through the supposed bottom "boulder problem" easily, and then Banz was telling me that the rest is even easier, and Ed was telling me that there would be penalty slack for down-climbing, and extra ten feet for a T-word. So I clipped the 2nd bolt, and then the 3rd, and then all the rest of them, until the 10th... There were rests everywhere. Jack would be disgusted. And then I clipped the chains, and thought, oops, now I look like a gumby who onsights and redpoints the same grade, so I better work on getting a real project ASAP.

I think I found a candidate project today.

Weather was stellar on Saturday. A bit too warm today, but the fall is definitely coming! Took pics of Banz for his blog, hung out with Manderson, and Sh@un and his friend Ben. And Ed. Definitely happy.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Whoa, just did a line at one of theist popular crags at the NRG, which now the guidebook author sez might have been an FA. Not gonna lie, the lead this morning took several years off my life, definitely the hardest moves I've done the farthest out from gear. Long, techy microcrimp crux that starts about six feet above a bomber nut, and ends maybe thirty feet above it. You're definitely in groundfallville for the last three crux moves.

Banz got money shots of the zend; whether or not it was an FA, I'm pretty psyched, as well as ready to sink into a drug induced haze of contemplating our fleeting mortality tonight. Holy shit.

Oh, and rematch with the Gauley tomorrow, woo!

Nice jorb! Yeah, Banz did show us all the photos of you, as well as pictures of his new girlfriend (cute! I hear you got to meet her on Friday), and all the other things that Banz likes to show people.

Nice weekend here, too, as the spray-a-gram recipients already know.

I accidentally flashed the route that is supposedly the same grade as my hardest redpoint. I got on it, thinking that it would be a nice project for the fall, maybe not a long-term one, but definitely a few-goes kind of route, and a nice way to get into the overhanging endurance, after doing the training thing.

But I went through the supposed bottom "boulder problem" easily, and then Banz was telling me that the rest is even easier, and Ed was telling me that there would be penalty slack for down-climbing, and extra ten feet for a T-word. So I clipped the 2nd bolt, and then the 3rd, and then all the rest of them, until the 10th... There were rests everywhere. Jack would be disgusted. And then I clipped the chains, and thought, oops, now I look like a gumby who onsights and redpoints the same grade, so I better work on getting a real project ASAP.

I think I found a candidate project today.

Weather was stellar on Saturday. A bit too warm today, but the fall is definitely coming! Took pics of Banz for his blog, hung out with Manderson, and Sh@un and his friend Ben. And Ed. Definitely happy.

Gongratulations! You may remember that I did not flash that route you did; fell at the top a few years back when you were belaying me in full July humidity smarm. How are the mandersons?

Banz's new gf is pretty rad, can definitely hang with gerkz. I was telling her about the four types of fun, and when I got to type IV, she said, "oh, like an STD?" Win.

This weekend was fucking intense. Didn't climb, but did the Upper Gauley twice. Saturday was good until we went down this rapid called sweets falls. It's tradition for all groups to pull over at the bottom and watch other groups' misery and butthurt when they wreck. Above the rapid, we were just talking about how stoked we were to see other idiots flip and swim. Then at the bottom of the first drop, jay fell out. Without our guide, we drifted right into this labyrinth of boulders called the box canyon. Water pushed us up against a rock, I almost kept the boat upright by high siding, but finally it flipped. People were cheering all around. We were definitely the star attraction that day. Sunday was spotless, and we got to enjoy seeing other people's wrecks instead.

Between two Gauley runs, being camp stalker, working two restaurant shifts, and this allnight dance party thatbibtuought would be a good idea to go to, I'm fucking wrecked. Ate Chinese buffet and then slept for 14 hrs last night.

Whoa, just did a line at one of theist popular crags at the NRG, which now the guidebook author sez might have been an FA. Not gonna lie, the lead this morning took several years off my life, definitely the hardest moves I've done the farthest out from gear. Long, techy microcrimp crux that starts about six feet above a bomber nut, and ends maybe thirty feet above it. You're definitely in groundfallville for the last three crux moves.

Banz got money shots of the zend; whether or not it was an FA, I'm pretty psyched, as well as ready to sink into a drug induced haze of contemplating our fleeting mortality tonight. Holy shit.

Oh, and rematch with the Gauley tomorrow, woo!

Nice jorb! Yeah, Banz did show us all the photos of you, as well as pictures of his new girlfriend (cute! I hear you got to meet her on Friday), and all the other things that Banz likes to show people.

Nice weekend here, too, as the spray-a-gram recipients already know.

I accidentally flashed the route that is supposedly the same grade as my hardest redpoint. I got on it, thinking that it would be a nice project for the fall, maybe not a long-term one, but definitely a few-goes kind of route, and a nice way to get into the overhanging endurance, after doing the training thing.

But I went through the supposed bottom "boulder problem" easily, and then Banz was telling me that the rest is even easier, and Ed was telling me that there would be penalty slack for down-climbing, and extra ten feet for a T-word. So I clipped the 2nd bolt, and then the 3rd, and then all the rest of them, until the 10th... There were rests everywhere. Jack would be disgusted. And then I clipped the chains, and thought, oops, now I look like a gumby who onsights and redpoints the same grade, so I better work on getting a real project ASAP.

I think I found a candidate project today.

Weather was stellar on Saturday. A bit too warm today, but the fall is definitely coming! Took pics of Banz for his blog, hung out with Manderson, and Sh@un and his friend Ben. And Ed. Definitely happy.

Gongratulations! You may remember that I did not flash that route you did; fell at the top a few years back when you were belaying me in full July humidity smarm. How are the mandersons?

I thought that was the case! thanks for reminding me. Now, if I can find someone else who didn't flash it, I can claim a glory send?

camhead wrote:

Banz's new gf is pretty rad, can definitely hang with gerkz. I was telling her about the four types of fun, and when I got to type IV, she said, "oh, like an STD?" Win.

Sounds like a good one, so far. Banz went to meet the parents after climbing on Sunday. Nice person that I am, I insisted that he change into a clean T-shirt, put on socks and shoes to cover his disgustingly-dirty post-flip-flop-hike-into-the-Lode feet, and skip the extra garlic on his pizza. That's what friends are for, right?

Too bad I couldn't get him to also skip the extra cheese. Lactose-intolerance AND extra cheese, right before a 3hr drive to meet new-gf parents? You'd think the guy would be smarter than that...

camhead wrote:

This weekend was fucking intense. Didn't climb, but did the Upper Gauley twice. Saturday was good until we went down this rapid called sweets falls. It's tradition for all groups to pull over at the bottom and watch other groups' misery and butthurt when they wreck. Above the rapid, we were just talking about how stoked we were to see other idiots flip and swim. Then at the bottom of the first drop, jay fell out. Without our guide, we drifted right into this labyrinth of boulders called the box canyon. Water pushed us up against a rock, I almost kept the boat upright by high siding, but finally it flipped. People were cheering all around. We were definitely the star attraction that day. Sunday was spotless, and we got to enjoy seeing other people's wrecks instead.

Between two Gauley runs, being camp stalker, working two restaurant shifts, and this allnight dance party thatbibtuought would be a good idea to go to, I'm fucking wrecked. Ate Chinese buffet and then slept for 14 hrs last night.

That is awl.

You are crazy. I think I'll quote my baby monkey to you: Mom, next time you say we go white-water rafting, I will say, NO THANK YOU!

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

Yeah, in KY you are hoping for an early cool weather fall (but dry, please let it be dry!), but I can see how you might want warmer temps farther north.

Last year, teh land owner to teh north ov teh hole lost a huge rot to a mountain lion. Tore him to shreds rite if front ov Mr Windgate house.

Last nite, a pretty big pit got awl torn up by a mountain lion down in teh hole. Pit was still barely alive this morning. Teh entire area looks like a pretty big fight went on blood and dog fur awl over teh place. Animal protection came owt a took teh dog away.... after Nate and teh flange carried it owt ov teh hole.

sadfase. Hopefully they don't try to kill teh lion.

Yea, they aren't going to go after teh lion. If they were, they wood have tried after Mr Windgate's dog wus taken. He's a several generation land owner and kinda a big deal around those parts. I has to finger that sum drunk 909er losing his pit is pretty low on there radar. Sides, as ov yesterday, nobody had even reported a lost dog.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

In teh realm of projects, I've decided to shelve mine for a while. Getting tired of falling off at the same spot and doing the same thing weke after weke.

Going to put the drive-by on the back burner and work on the five-finger discount, which seems more doable. Same overall difficulty: some harder moves, but with two spots that allow rests ... not no-hands RRG rests, but stand on your feet a bit more than usual and shake out type of rests.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

In teh realm of projects, I've decided to shelve mine for a while. Getting tired of falling off at the same spot and doing the same thing weke after weke.

Going to put the drive-by on the back burner and work on the five-finger discount, which seems more doable. Same overall difficulty: some harder moves, but with two spots that allow rests ... not no-hands RRG rests, but stand on your feet a bit more than usual and shake out type of rests.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

In teh realm of projects, I've decided to shelve mine for a while. Getting tired of falling off at the same spot and doing the same thing weke after weke.

Going to put the drive-by on the back burner and work on the five-finger discount, which seems more doable. Same overall difficulty: some harder moves, but with two spots that allow rests ... not no-hands RRG rests, but stand on your feet a bit more than usual and shake out type of rests.

I'm surprised those rests haven't been removed.

If you have any dynomite in your closet, behind your dignity, and your drumsticks, and your climbing shoes, you should venture out there and remove them.

Saturday was my third day on this route. Day one I bruised my knuckles on this tight undercling crack through the crux roof. Day two I ripped a big bloody flapper off on the same undercling. I had it in my mind that if this route beat me up again I was going to move on. Thank goodness I sent. Climbed it really well, taking my time and keeping the pump down.

I'm really happy, this makes it the fouth one two I've sent this year (only one of those a repeat from 2 years ago). Would have been the fifth except that we downgraded one of them. I have another project route up at mini-Ceause that's a bit harder than anything else I've done and hoping I can finish it out before the end of the season. We shall see.

Nice send! I hope the project goes before the season's end. I was just counting weekends and figuring out what i need to do send mine. Fall is just starting, but with the kid's schedule, I don't have that many days left!

Obviously I'd like to send, but it really doesn't matter one way or another. It'll be good just to overload my body working on it.

And I don't have many weekends left either. Lion's Head being right on the water can get chilly a lot earlier than you want in the fall.

In teh realm of projects, I've decided to shelve mine for a while. Getting tired of falling off at the same spot and doing the same thing weke after weke.

Going to put the drive-by on the back burner and work on the five-finger discount, which seems more doable. Same overall difficulty: some harder moves, but with two spots that allow rests ... not no-hands RRG rests, but stand on your feet a bit more than usual and shake out type of rests.

I'm surprised those rests haven't been removed.

they're by design ... I've seen jack stand at teh main rest on that thing for 5-10 minutes, alternating hands and shaking out