Ah, so Bryan Fuller doesn't get one hack shiat reboot picked up so he can work on another.

Man, I miss the days when he was doing good, original shows instead of creatively bankrupt reboots and reimaginings. Of course, nobody watched the good, original shows, so I suppose you take what work you can get.

I still wanna watch the pilot. It should be worth it just for the surrealism. And I just found out there's an American "Young Ones" pilot somewhere filmed decades ago, starring Neil and Jackie Earle Haley that I must see.

Have you ever seen the BBC videos of the mini series. (yup, early 80's shoestring budget SPX in old Doctor Who Style)...but the bits with the BOOK on video from that where done very damn well with lots of sidebar info..hyperlinks (nonfunctional of course) and good graphics...far superior to the movie..or what the movie should have been..with real hypertext for DVD release.

Okay..a 1980's example of the "book" for the babel fish..from the 80's BBC video: Link

Dwight_Yeast:optikeye: But no more after that abortion of the movie came out, because it's tainted now and people only think of the really bad movie.

*raises hand*

I liked the movie.

I also thought the movie was fine. Sure there were some jokes from the books that weren't included (or were pared down) that I would have liked to have seen fully included, and there was some strange new stuff in it too (like Malkovich's character), but I thought some of the other new jokes were pretty good. Fans of the books and radio series seem to complain about the HHGTTG movie with the same sort nit-picks that Tolkien fans had about the LOTR films. Just accept that it can't be exactly identical, and at least in the case of HHGTTG, it was Douglas Adams, the original creator, who made the changes.

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman:Just accept that it can't be exactly identical, and at least in the case of HHGTTG, it was Douglas Adams, the original creator, who made the changes.

I thought the plot was fine..I thought the execution was week. Especially the bits with the book which looked like a insurance commercial in animation...and didn't have flowing hyper text as shown in the above link....which could have been done for big sells on DVDS with actual active links.

As it stood on the screen the bits of the BOOK where interruptions and very badly done. Did you look at the link I posted? I can take change for plot and Adam's script..etc..but the reality of major character "THE BOOK" was phoned in and looked like a cell frame blue dudes insurance commercial without hypertext.

Have you ever seen the BBC videos of the mini series. (yup, early 80's shoestring budget SPX in old Doctor Who Style)...but the bits with the BOOK on video from that where done very damn well with lots of sidebar info..hyperlinks (nonfunctional of course) and good graphics...far superior to the movie..or what the movie should have been..with real hypertext for DVD release.

Okay..a 1980's example of the "book" for the babel fish..from the 80's BBC video: Link

H2G2 was the first "grown-up" book I read. I was in 4th grade. I taped the BBC series off PBS when they ran it and was eventually given proper copies of it. I honestly don't know how many times I've read the series, and my friends and I were pretty obsessed by it in high school. I even have a signed copy of "Mostly Harmless" around here, inscribed to me by DNA.

I think it's fair to say that I'm a pretty big fan, and I didn't have any really serious problems with the movie. I think you may have been asking too much from it.

I was looking forward to it, and actually thought this kind of remake wasn't such a bad idea if they played it right. A "dramatic" Munsters would be very funny, but only if they played it absolutely straight with no overt attempts at humor. Just let the absurdness of the concept carry the show. Hopefully the report is wrong and we'll at least get to see the pilot someday.

On the HGH movie, I too would call myself a big fan of the earlier incarnations since reading them when I was a kid back in the '80's. No Hitchhiker's movie would have pleased everyone, and I think the movie as it is was pretty good. The POV gun alone is a clever new thing right from Douglas Adams himself. It's useful, funny, and carries real emotional weight for the characters. I think the movie got a bad rap, and I would have liked to have seen the same team make at least one sequel.

saw a preview of this at his panel at SDCC (was waiting for JMS panel, didn't plan on going). It was okaaaaaay at best. Most of the people there didn't seem too jazzed about it, they were all busy gushing over Pushing Daisies.

Was he busy? Did he want too much money? Was the casting director having a stroke?

But this is a Brian Fuller remake. If it's anything like Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me, or Wonderfalls, the comedy is not based on a line-delivery followed by laugh track style like the original show used. Fuller pretty much treats everyone as a straight man to the humor/tragic/light/dark surroundings of what's happening around the actors. Everyone in Dead Like Me (including Dolores Herbig) was invested and serious about what they were talking about. The fast banter, double entendres, and even Emerson Cod knitting a handgun cozy in Pushing Daisies was set-up with funny but quirky logical reasoning. Brad Garret would be a horrible choice for Fuller, but Portia de Rossi's background of Arrested Development and Better off Ted makes her perfect.

Considering Fuller shows have such a crappy lifespan, I really wouldn't be surprised if Fuller pitched this as a non-Munsters show about monsters in his style, and compromised to a remake of sorts using the Munsters so the name might give it more staying power.

All that said, I really wish a network would realize his potential and find a good fit for him. His shows don't draw top level ratings, yet they give him a budget and timeslot that clearly isn't sustainable by his audience. I love this guys storytelling and style, and would rather see a solid 5 year show with a crap budget and no-name actors on at 2am if the ratings support it vs. the rollercoaster ride of watching one episode and holdiing your breath until the show is moved around and cancelled.

Have you ever seen the BBC videos of the mini series. (yup, early 80's shoestring budget SPX in old Doctor Who Style)...but the bits with the BOOK on video from that where done very damn well with lots of sidebar info..hyperlinks (nonfunctional of course) and good graphics...far superior to the movie..or what the movie should have been..with real hypertext for DVD release.

Okay..a 1980's example of the "book" for the babel fish..from the 80's BBC video: Link

H2G2 was the first "grown-up" book I read. I was in 4th grade. I taped the BBC series off PBS when they ran it and was eventually given proper copies of it. I honestly don't know how many times I've read the series, and my friends and I were pretty obsessed by it in high school. I even have a signed copy of "Mostly Harmless" around here, inscribed to me by DNA.

I think it's fair to say that I'm a pretty big fan, and I didn't have any really serious problems with the movie. I think you may have been asking too much from it.

The only things that really bugged me were Zaphod's extra head placement and the last gag of the movie about the restaurant being at the other end of the universe and the ship turning around.

Have you ever seen the BBC videos of the mini series. (yup, early 80's shoestring budget SPX in old Doctor Who Style)...but the bits with the BOOK on video from that where done very damn well with lots of sidebar info..hyperlinks (nonfunctional of course) and good graphics...far superior to the movie..or what the movie should have been..with real hypertext for DVD release.

Okay..a 1980's example of the "book" for the babel fish..from the 80's BBC video: Link

H2G2 was the first "grown-up" book I read. I was in 4th grade. I taped the BBC series off PBS when they ran it and was eventually given proper copies of it. I honestly don't know how many times I've read the series, and my friends and I were pretty obsessed by it in high school. I even have a signed copy of "Mostly Harmless" around here, inscribed to me by DNA.

I think it's fair to say that I'm a pretty big fan, and I didn't have any really serious problems with the movie. I think you may have been asking too much from it.

The only things that really bugged me were Zaphod's extra head placement and the last gag of the movie about the restaurant being at the other end of the universe and the ship turning around.

IIRC, some Disney exec somewhere said the movie was rather close to the script that DNA wrote, with extra stuff he added. IF DNA added the gun as a commentary that American movies must have weapons in them in order to be made, I'll allow it. IF an executive said, "You know what this movie needs? Guns!!1", then I hate that person with the fury of a thousand suns.

Have you ever seen the BBC videos of the mini series. (yup, early 80's shoestring budget SPX in old Doctor Who Style)...but the bits with the BOOK on video from that where done very damn well with lots of sidebar info..hyperlinks (nonfunctional of course) and good graphics...far superior to the movie..or what the movie should have been..with real hypertext for DVD release.

Okay..a 1980's example of the "book" for the babel fish..from the 80's BBC video: Link

H2G2 was the first "grown-up" book I read. I was in 4th grade. I taped the BBC series off PBS when they ran it and was eventually given proper copies of it. I honestly don't know how many times I've read the series, and my friends and I were pretty obsessed by it in high school. I even have a signed copy of "Mostly Harmless" around here, inscribed to me by DNA.

I think it's fair to say that I'm a pretty big fan, and I didn't have any really serious problems with the movie. I think you may have been asking too much from it.

The only things that really bugged me were Zaphod's extra head placement and the last gag of the movie about the restaurant being at the other end of the universe and the ship turning around.

IIRC, some Disney exec somewhere said the movie was rather close to the script that DNA wrote, with extra stuff he added. IF DNA added the gun as a commentary that American movies must have weapons in them in order to be made, I'll allow it. IF an executive said, "You know what this movie needs? Guns!!1", then I hate that person with the fury of a thousand suns.

/might go home and start re-reading them tonight.

This tracks with what I'd heard about the H2G2 movie: that almost all the additions to the script wereones that Adams has put in himself in, at minimum, outline form, and that the producers tried to stickto his outline as best they could.

This makes perfect sense, since every time he took the story to a new medium (from the originalradio show, through the novels, TV show and computer game) he tinkered with it and added to it.

Heck: he even tinkered with the script when they re-recorded the original radio show for commercialsale. He viewed H2G2 as a living, breathing thing, a stance I find a great antidote for the tendancy ofgenre fans to become mired in what is 'canon' in a given creative product.

As a make-good for passing on this admittedly terrible idea that would have probably been okay in the end because hey, Bryan Fuller was working on it, NBC should pick up Fuller's The Amazing Screw-On Head contingent on him getting most of the crew that worked on it back together.