Time to ARM everybody in order to save the children!!!

I took a peek inside the local gun store yesterday. It was packed. The owner just happened to time a sale with the latest problem. I'm looking at his sale flyer... M&P9 compact $399. I'll bet those were all gone before lunch....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983

IOW it's irrational to think you are protecting your kid by buying a gun...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

what the hell are u talking about dork? just giving the latest gun store report. chill out.....

I would probably be rendered useless and die of fright before anybody ever actually shot me down...

The consequences of not being armed scares the hell out of me too. Kinda wish I could carry a gun at this point...but my mace will have to do.

...

My knee jerk reaction was to pull my kids out of school immediately, lol...that was my over reaction. Carrying a gun to protect oneself and loved ones is not unreasonable. The reality is that the world IS getting worse and worse, not better and better. I never ever thought I'd be an advocate for guns...Ever...but, these kids losing their lives has changed my mind.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Being reasonable is subjective. Objectively, it is irrational. I assume you assume it will give you a peaceful state of mind having one. I wouldnt bet on it. It will satisfy some momentary fear (ie when you purchase it), but then you'll have to live the life of a gun owner with the baggage that one day you'll use it. That's a heavy burden to bear. I rely on my wits, as always. And it doesnt weigh anything, is not a burden, and has no baggage.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

If you go back and read what I wrote, I already said I can never own a gun. Never. I carry mace. :-) You're barking up the wrong tree here.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Okay I am speaking over you. I do that alot in discussions. Nothing personal :)

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

I understand that most of ya'll are Anon, and you guys tend to not acknowledge that you are talking to real people...that makes me a little bat shit crazy sometimes.

I am a real person...I have real kids. When I respond to you, I respond to what you, as a person with feelings and morals, etc, have said, even if you are anonymous...

Step back, breathe, acknowledge that we're not all robots sitting here clickity clackiting on the keyboard...:-)

I know it's nothing personal. I like to debate. :-) But in having said all that, it'd be nice for you to say, Oh, I'm having a conversation with Stormey...not, i'm just getting my point across to the zombies. :-) Know what I mean?

I took a peek inside the local gun store yesterday. It was packed. The owner just happened to time a sale with the latest problem. I'm looking at his sale flyer... M&P9 compact $399. I'll bet those were all gone before lunch....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983

IOW it's irrational to think you are protecting your kid by buying a gun...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

what the hell are u talking about dork? just giving the latest gun store report. chill out.....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983

And I'm giving an assessment on that report. And you aint no zombie either Anon. smooch...

If you go back and read what I wrote, I already said I can never own a gun. Never. I carry mace. :-) You're barking up the wrong tree here.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Okay I am speaking over you. I do that alot in discussions. Nothing personal :)

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

I understand that most of ya'll are Anon, and you guys tend to not acknowledge that you are talking to real people...that makes me a little bat shit crazy sometimes.

I am a real person...I have real kids. When I respond to you, I respond to what you, as a person with feelings and morals, etc, have said, even if you are anonymous...

Step back, breathe, acknowledge that we're not all robots sitting here clickity clackiting on the keyboard...:-)

I know it's nothing personal. I like to debate. :-) But in having said all that, it'd be nice for you to say, Oh, I'm having a conversation with Stormey...not, i'm just getting my point across to the zombies. :-) Know what I mean?

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Oh, I'm having a conversation with Stormey, you aint no zombie in mine eyes. kiss kiss,,,

If thou loves us put down thou weapons and look not back upon them lest ye be destroyed by them, for it is written flee Babylon my people and look not back lest ye be destroyed. This has more meaning than people know, for it is the ways of the world ye must forsake. Would thou be willing to die for me to die in name of Jesus could you do so peacefully?

For many shall try save their lifes and shall lose their lifes and many shall lose their lifes and shall save their lifes. Now know the mystery of this which was said behold ye whom trys to save their life shall forsake their faith in God for they shall try to save themselfs and remaining in Babylon, many when tortured shall renouce God and many will take up arms unto their own condemnation. But those to be saved shall die in name of God preaching his WORD and shall not take up arms against another and shall not renouce God even under torture. For those whom do renouce shall be taken into Hell but those whom do not renouce shall find themself in Heaven to come.

Quoting: Spiritoftruth

Shill.

Quoting: Chip

With your mind you wont last long when things begin, repent before it is to late.

Quoting: Spiritoftruth

His mind is a shriveled shell. There is really nothing there to redeem. Sorry. The warmth of God is to live free of fear, TO FEAR NO EVIL. To carry a gun on the presumption that danger lurks everywhere is to live a lie, a lie that must constantly be supported by distant and always ill events, thus polluting and clouding the mind...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Your so deluded you can't even understand simple survival concepts. You're just mad because your corrupt ass government disarmed you and you sat on your ass and let it happen!! Don't come into my thread with your brainwashing horseshit you made up to justify your apathy. Yes, that is what it is. You're not even a quarter as smart as you think you are.

I am sure the mother of the CT killer infected the lad's mind with the same delusions of grandeur and invincibility we see on this thread. Gun nuts are mentally diseased, the guns themselves are harmless.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

And more false reasoning to justify the fact that you allowed your government to disarm you...the big pussy you are.

Nobody is worshipping guns, here, hon....This is a reasonable discussion...well, it WAS a reasonable discussion on how to better protect our children.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

You are looking at a very low probability event. You wish to counter an illusion, a broadcast of light beamed around the nation. Now I hear mothers want to buy cell phones for their 7 year olds. Do you really think any of this over reaction will change a thing? I dont. When your time is up, it's up deary, and your emotional reasonableness means nothing...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Nobody is worshipping guns, here, hon....This is a reasonable discussion...well, it WAS a reasonable discussion on how to better protect our children.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

You are looking at a very low probability event. You wish to counter an illusion, a broadcast of light beamed around the nation. Now I hear mothers want to buy cell phones for their 7 year olds. Do you really think any of this over reaction will change a thing? I dont. When your time is up, it's up deary, and your emotional reasonableness means nothing...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Quoting: Chip

Fuck yes. A mod with balls that actually swing.

I've watched this infiltration of GLP, since the Clackamas shooting which is very local to me, since the Newtown massacre has happened, I see people talking with a bible in one hand and scriptures in the other.

Chip, we don't know each other. I think we'd make pretty good friends overall. Your fierce fight for what is obvious ( arming teachers, everybody ) is what I have felt for decades.

I used a hypothetical previously, because you mentioned felons not getting guns. Everything now a days is a felony, everything is designed to get your guns out of your hands.

Let me prove my point.

In Oregon, two men go into the street and engage in a fist fight. They will both be charged with assault, which is a first time offense of 7 years in prison. They are both felons now, it doesn't materr if it was a "he said she said".... They both lose their rights to own a gun now.

For a fist fight.

Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.

The adults and even the children in the school were armed indeed or had arms available to them.

Didn't save their sorry asses against the Federal ATF and FBI..

Had the Branch Davidians had Abram Tanks and Stinger missiles and RGPs, yes, armed, it would have come down to the same effect.

You all thing the firearms is KING. I hear so many with such naive bravado. Yes, they will pry your guns from your dead cold hand, most likely before you fired your first round... in pre-emptive strikes upon you, form the air.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246

Sir, no one is implying that regular, everyday armed citizens can take on a trained mechanized military force, but an armed citizenry still keeps the government in check. You are obviously either a sold out crony, or you're one of them. I'd rather go down fighting, than be a willing idiot who gets on the bus to go to a FEMA camp. I'm not afraid to die, I have Christ, but I'm not some willing slave either.The Branch Davidians were murdered, and God will avenge the blood of the innocent.

So, don't believe a lie, as your soul counts on the Truth.

Quoting: Nobody.... 16697477

All arms are illegal when used against the govt. And the govt will do as it pleases, being put in check only when "legal" arms are abolished.

The adults and even the children in the school were armed indeed or had arms available to them.

Didn't save their sorry asses against the Federal ATF and FBI..

Had the Branch Davidians had Abram Tanks and Stinger missiles and RGPs, yes, armed, it would have come down to the same effect.

You all thing the firearms is KING. I hear so many with such naive bravado. Yes, they will pry your guns from your dead cold hand, most likely before you fired your first round... in pre-emptive strikes upon you, form the air.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246

Sir, no one is implying that regular, everyday armed citizens can take on a trained mechanized military force, but an armed citizenry still keeps the government in check. You are obviously either a sold out crony, or you're one of them. I'd rather go down fighting, than be a willing idiot who gets on the bus to go to a FEMA camp. I'm not afraid to die, I have Christ, but I'm not some willing slave either.The Branch Davidians were murdered, and God will avenge the blood of the innocent.

So, don't believe a lie, as your soul counts on the Truth.

Quoting: Nobody.... 16697477

Of course armed citizens can take on a "trained mechanized military force". Just not directly. If you can think perhaps you can understand that is why an armed population is in fact a deterrent.

I can't understand the depth of belief in government omnipotence in this country.

Any casual survey of government should reveal a staggering incompetence,no matter how worshipful and heavily propagandized people are.

Anyone who has been in the military or can even read knows that fubar is a normal state of affairs.

Nobody is worshipping guns, here, hon....This is a reasonable discussion...well, it WAS a reasonable discussion on how to better protect our children.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

You are looking at a very low probability event. You wish to counter an illusion, a broadcast of light beamed around the nation. Now I hear mothers want to buy cell phones for their 7 year olds. Do you really think any of this over reaction will change a thing? I dont. When your time is up, it's up deary, and your emotional reasonableness means nothing...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Quoting: Chip

Fuck yes. A mod with balls that actually swing.

I've watched this infiltration of GLP, since the Clackamas shooting which is very local to me, since the Newtown massacre has happened, I see people talking with a bible in one hand and scriptures in the other.

Chip, we don't know each other. I think we'd make pretty good friends overall. Your fierce fight for what is obvious ( arming teachers, everybody ) is what I have felt for decades.

I used a hypothetical previously, because you mentioned felons not getting guns. Everything now a days is a felony, everything is designed to get your guns out of your hands.

Let me prove my point.

In Oregon, two men go into the street and engage in a fist fight. They will both be charged with assault, which is a first time offense of 7 years in prison. They are both felons now, it doesn't materr if it was a "he said she said".... They both lose their rights to own a gun now.

Nobody is worshipping guns, here, hon....This is a reasonable discussion...well, it WAS a reasonable discussion on how to better protect our children.

Quoting: StormeyGoddess

You are looking at a very low probability event. You wish to counter an illusion, a broadcast of light beamed around the nation. Now I hear mothers want to buy cell phones for their 7 year olds. Do you really think any of this over reaction will change a thing? I dont. When your time is up, it's up deary, and your emotional reasonableness means nothing...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Quoting: Chip

Fuck yes. A mod with balls that actually swing.

I've watched this infiltration of GLP, since the Clackamas shooting which is very local to me, since the Newtown massacre has happened, I see people talking with a bible in one hand and scriptures in the other.

Chip, we don't know each other. I think we'd make pretty good friends overall. Your fierce fight for what is obvious ( arming teachers, everybody ) is what I have felt for decades.

I used a hypothetical previously, because you mentioned felons not getting guns. Everything now a days is a felony, everything is designed to get your guns out of your hands.

Let me prove my point.

In Oregon, two men go into the street and engage in a fist fight. They will both be charged with assault, which is a first time offense of 7 years in prison. They are both felons now, it doesn't materr if it was a "he said she said".... They both lose their rights to own a gun now.

For a fist fight.

Quoting: Redpaw360

The government is a business. With felonies like those you mention this is what the state gains.

1.) "Offender" loses all rights.2.) Imprisonment for the "offender" allows the state to get funds from the federal government.3.) Warrantless tracking capabilities of the said "offender".

It's win win for them. These are factors that can and will be forced by 99% of anti-gunners.

You are looking at a very low probability event. You wish to counter an illusion, a broadcast of light beamed around the nation. Now I hear mothers want to buy cell phones for their 7 year olds. Do you really think any of this over reaction will change a thing? I dont. When your time is up, it's up deary, and your emotional reasonableness means nothing...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28763511

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Quoting: Chip

Fuck yes. A mod with balls that actually swing.

I've watched this infiltration of GLP, since the Clackamas shooting which is very local to me, since the Newtown massacre has happened, I see people talking with a bible in one hand and scriptures in the other.

Chip, we don't know each other. I think we'd make pretty good friends overall. Your fierce fight for what is obvious ( arming teachers, everybody ) is what I have felt for decades.

I used a hypothetical previously, because you mentioned felons not getting guns. Everything now a days is a felony, everything is designed to get your guns out of your hands.

Let me prove my point.

In Oregon, two men go into the street and engage in a fist fight. They will both be charged with assault, which is a first time offense of 7 years in prison. They are both felons now, it doesn't materr if it was a "he said she said".... They both lose their rights to own a gun now.

For a fist fight.

Quoting: Redpaw360

The government is a business. With felonies like those you mention this is what the state gains.

1.) "Offender" loses all rights.2.) Imprisonment for the "offender" allows the state to get funds from the federal government.3.) Warrantless tracking capabilities of the said "offender".

It's win win for them. These are factors that can and will be forced by 99% of anti-gunners.

The system is bloated, power hungry and out of control.

Quoting: Chip

agree, The "justice" system needs "customers" in order to perpetuate and justify jobs/growth of bureaucracy. More customers=more work and more money for the parasites

Okay dumbass...this is strike 3 for derailment of the thread. If I see another one as I read through this thread...your gone!

Quoting: Chip

Fuck yes. A mod with balls that actually swing.

I've watched this infiltration of GLP, since the Clackamas shooting which is very local to me, since the Newtown massacre has happened, I see people talking with a bible in one hand and scriptures in the other.

Chip, we don't know each other. I think we'd make pretty good friends overall. Your fierce fight for what is obvious ( arming teachers, everybody ) is what I have felt for decades.

I used a hypothetical previously, because you mentioned felons not getting guns. Everything now a days is a felony, everything is designed to get your guns out of your hands.

Let me prove my point.

In Oregon, two men go into the street and engage in a fist fight. They will both be charged with assault, which is a first time offense of 7 years in prison. They are both felons now, it doesn't materr if it was a "he said she said".... They both lose their rights to own a gun now.

For a fist fight.

Quoting: Redpaw360

The government is a business. With felonies like those you mention this is what the state gains.

1.) "Offender" loses all rights.2.) Imprisonment for the "offender" allows the state to get funds from the federal government.3.) Warrantless tracking capabilities of the said "offender".

It's win win for them. These are factors that can and will be forced by 99% of anti-gunners.

The system is bloated, power hungry and out of control.

Quoting: Chip

agree, The "justice" system needs "customers" in order to perpetuate and justify jobs/growth of bureaucracy. More customers=more work and more money for the parasites

Quoting: s. d. butler

WAKE UP AMERICA

WAKE UP AMERICA"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President."A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."

thus posibly developing a no logical evilutionary jump resulting in a mahamic state of technolegy

a dramatic increece in personal animated securety aufensive weapon size may be required

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all these shootings are done in gun free zones. they wouldn't have the guts to do it where everyone was armed...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983

Yep, agreed. Never thought I'd say it, but damn it, agreed. We are only advertising that we're not armed and can't do a fucking thing to stop someone that is armed. I understand the argument now. Believe me.

thus posibly developing a no logical evilutionary jump resulting in a mahamic state of technolegy

a dramatic increece in personal animated securety aufensive weapon size may be required

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30187895

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Type your text into that program before you come to a public forum. Please. As you type in Open Office or Word, you will notice that almost every word you type, will have a red squiggly line under it. This means you've misspelled the word.

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Quoting: StormeyGoddess

Both programs will even help with grammar, which I evidently needed, lol, constructing the above paragraph.