Aw for fucks sake, who is in Star Trek anymore? Isn't it all these silly offshoots now, Deep Space something and another one I can't remember. William Shatner is about 50 stone, the rest are all dead. That bald one from Xmen doesn't do it anymore, then there was that one with the beard who looks like one of my mates (you know, that one) and then I'm sure I flicked it on once and Whoopi fucking |Goldberg was working behind a bar Surely it's only Star Trek by name, therefore it could just be another space movie which you'll find about 100 similar DTV movies in your local blockbuster. The Wrath of Khan wasn't bad and I must admit to enjoying the one with Malcolm McDowell in, but apart from that they're pretty average movies. Very average in fact.

My first movie at the cinema was The Motion Picture in 1979. It nearly killed my love for the movies before it had even started. What a dire, dire film. Woeful. They should have stopped there IMO. The only good thing to have happened in the 28 years since is the term "taking Captain Picard to warp speed" being a euphemism for wanking.

Aw for fucks sake, who is in Star Trek anymore? Isn't it all these silly offshoots now, Deep Space something and another one I can't remember. William Shatner is about 50 stone, the rest are all dead. That bald one from Xmen doesn't do it anymore, then there was that one with the beard who looks like one of my mates (you know, that one) and then I'm sure I flicked it on once and Whoopi fucking |Goldberg was working behind a bar Surely it's only Star Trek by name, therefore it could just be another space movie which you'll find about 100 similar DTV movies in your local blockbuster. The Wrath of Khan wasn't bad and I must admit to enjoying the one with Malcolm McDowell in, but apart from that they're pretty average movies. Very average in fact.

My first movie at the cinema was The Motion Picture in 1979. It nearly killed my love for the movies before it had even started. What a dire, dire film. Woeful. They should have stopped there IMO. The only good thing to have happened in the 28 years since is the term "taking Captain Picard to warp speed" being a euphemism for wanking.

Well......double dumb ass on you.

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Havent you seen him in his Riker outfit jonson? Quite dashing actually...

I think the real question is are Empire going to have 5 Shark Attack 3 covers next February to celebrate the 5th anniversay of that milestone event in cinema? We could have one of the shark, one of John Barrowman, one of the lovely Ms McShane, one of the submaring guy and one of the fans. Well, jonson....

I do not go to bed with my Spock ears on......but I do only go to bed with green skinned women.......on a bit of a dry streak at the moment strangely enough...

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Regarding the whole mainstream trek thing in the last issue and in the letters of this issue..I have to agree with the guy writing about TNGs ratings and the films being big at the box office (esp in america) - the 1st one in 1979 is the most successful when adjusted and made around $370 million worldwide in todays money - that's more than Batman Begins..plus had all the BK meals etc…the action packed II and III were also big in the states but did noticeably less than the 1st overseas..(guess foreign audiences who went to the first snorefest film thinking it was star wars swore never to see another)..then 'the one with the whales' was really successful and made the most box office (although not as much as TMP when adjusted I think)…that's probably the most mainstream trek film of all and made Paramount go ahead with TNG tv series….V was terrible and that was reflected in the box office doing a lot less than any of the previous ones…VI was quite successful though doing alot better…then with TNG - Generations did abit more due to the tv series being quite popular at the time plus it had Kirk. First Contact did even better..i think its 2nd biggest trek film behind IV before adjusting….but the last 2 wernt so big…in fact Nemesis flopped barely making its budget back..not even Star Trek V managed that

I think you can convert the BO figures on box office mojo to show what they would be now

However the new one due May 09 should be the most mainstream of all (original crew returns, Abrams directing, massive budget, films stars appearing etc)…so lets have some covers soon Empire! I guess if it had stayed on target for xmas release we'd be seeing some covers next month or so…however now it got moved to May I'm guessing next year we'll see at least one Empire Trek cover...do i even hear multiple covers a la WatchMen/TDK etc? (who knows maybe Emp will go Trek crazy and do 3 different months like whenever there was a star wars prequel! )

I honestly can't believe the immaturity of some people in this thread, comparing Trek to Wars, "it's for nerds"... well guess what? You're on an internet message board. I applaud jackcarter for tolerating all these trolls, and hopefully we will see multiple Trek covers next year.

Wow…I was positive Khan would feature in there somewhere…and that there might even be a Star Trek cover at long last (that I would have gladly bought in addition to my GF subscription issue…something I would never normally do)…but….no…

As much as I love Khan it was the point where the Trek universe shrank and moderate success was enough to get by, relatively low budgets were the order of the day rather than an epic sense of wonder that had been the order of the day up until that point.

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Surely they should give the cast of Enterprise a shot at being in a Star Trek movie?

Haha - there was a (brief) period where that was actually being considered...and also just prior to the new Abrams movie, Rick Berman was prepping a prequel trilogy set before Enterprise at the beginnings of the Federation…

As much as I love Khan it was the point where the Trek universe shrank and moderate success was enough to get by, relatively low budgets were the order of the day rather than an epic sense of wonder that had been the order of the day up until that point.

You mean The Motion Picture…? it wasnt that bad and was fairly successful at the BO (and has aged quite well...its certainly better regarded by fans now than when it came out ) but compared to Khan its terrible. Reducing the movie budget is what saved star trek..another big budget film was out of the question (until now) after TMPs bad reviews....and the moderate budget for part 2 is what made them look to cut price tv producer Harve Bennet who put together the excellent film.

As much as I love Khan it was the point where the Trek universe shrank and moderate success was enough to get by, relatively low budgets were the order of the day rather than an epic sense of wonder that had been the order of the day up until that point.

You mean The Motion Picture…? it wasnt that bad and was fairly successful at the BO (and has aged quite well...its certainly better regarded by fans now than when it came out ) but compared to Khan its terrible. Reducing the movie budget is what saved star trek..another big budget film was out of the question (until now) after TMPs bad reviews....and the moderate budget for part 2 is what made them look to cut price tv producer Harve Bennet who put together the excellent film.

Oh I totally agree, without the reduced budget for the sequels I think Trek would be dead now. I would not be surprised to see something similar for the Superman franchise to be honest.

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