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Originally Posted by feltdizz

lol.... Wallace is more concerned with winning the race then catching the ball...

I can somehow picture him going to the sidelines and bragging about how he BLEW RIGHT BY those guys..
Getting timing on deep throws takes time and practice....until then you gotta break stride and jump for the ball or at least knock it down

Wally: Yep, you tell him Charlie's a limp wristed chump and I'm the greatest WR ever. With a good QB I woulda scored and you know it coach.

Mike T: So you ran by the ball on purpose.

Wally: Yep so you can see why Young Money needs to see it rain.

Mike T: Anything else you want me to tell him.

Wally: Yeah coach, yeah. Tell him that an Elite WR needs an Elite QB. And if Mr Rooney wants to get the best out of his investment, give me Ben's contract and then go get Aaron Rodgers to throw me the ball.

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Originally Posted by Dee Dub

...you arent going to get anything straight of you can't understand the fact that Batch under threw him twice on deep balls, several times threw behind him, and also under threw him in the flat/sidelines a few times. But hey...hate all you want. When your QB throws a blistering 19 MPH and it is a wobbling duck that dies have way to you what do you expect?

Funny, I saw Mike Wallace get behind the secondary twice today. Any halfway descent QB has two TD's on those. But it's all Wallace's fault.

Mike Wallace was a 3rd round pick from a not so major University What I see is a player who has gone way beyond the original expectations for him.

Yes, he's gone beyond expectations. And, I agree that he is not to blame for the loss. He didn't play well, but we also missed opportunities to get him the ball when he did get open.

However, Wallace has never high-pointed the ball well nor drawn interference through body position well. It hardly matters where Wallace came from at this point. He has been in the league for 4 years. He should be improving in these areas.

I'm a Wallace fan. I like him. He seems like a good guy personally. Still, some simple tweaks to his game could yield big results and lead to us winning more games. I'm disappointed that he is not more aggressive when the ball is in the air.

Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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I still don't understand how you break off a deep route while running full speed past the defense and are some how responsible for coming back to an under thrown ball by about 5- 10 yards and beat a defender who already has position on you because the pass was that bad. This borders on laughable at some point to blame the WR for a QBs ineptitude.

Wally: Yep, you tell him Charlie's a limp wristed chump and I'm the greatest WR ever. With a good QB I woulda scored and you know it coach.

Mike T: So you ran by the ball on purpose.

Wally: Yep so you can see why Young Money needs to see it rain.

Mike T: Anything else you want me to tell him.

Wally: Yeah coach, yeah. Tell him that an Elite WR needs an Elite QB. And if Mr Rooney wants to get the best out of his investment, give me Ben's contract and then go get Aaron Rodgers to throw me the ball.

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Originally Posted by Jooser

I have been critical of Wallace at times this season, but to try to blame him for Pi$$ poor throws by Batch is just about as backwards as it gets. You are paying Wallace for his blistering speed, to run past defenders and get open and catch the homerun ball. He DID just that. He got open, but the ancient QB under threw him by 5-10 yards. And you want to blast him for now stopping and coming back for the ball? The defenders were in a better position to to make a play because they were beaten and trailing Mike and the ball was thrown to THEM, not MIKE. Come on guys, it's frustrating, but try to see things for what they are. Batch couldn't even throw a spiral in the first half and he has no arm left. Where's your Mr. Batch, you need to retire letter?

Sorry Jooser but I'm the complete opposite of you. I'm normally a Wallace defender but in a game where players have to step it up due to all the injuries this team has he was very lackadasical. Wallace, as the receiver, is the first to see the ball in the air. If he can't put the brakes on and then use his supposed high vertical leaping ability to at least knock the ball down he needs to re-evaluate the class of receiver he is. Maybe he ought to watch some tapes of a guy who was a master at that ... Randy Moss. He often would slow up and then out jump the defender for the ball.

I've never thought of Wallace as "elite" but I did think he was the next level down. He was starting to run all the routes and make all the plays but this year he has seriously declined. I don't recall him ever dropping as many passes as he has this year. Hell, I didn't even blame him for not making a play on the ball Lefty short-hopped to him last week. But this week, when we needed people to step up, he didn't catch the short pass a little behind him that was intercepted and the two deep balls he didn't fight for. He HAS to do better if he wants to stay on this team. Otherwise start Sanders and Brown (when healthy) and use Wallace as the 3rd receiver like in his rookie year.

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I agree the the pass he dropped was on him. But guys, the long ball wasn't just a little short, it was very short. Charlie Batch took full responsibility for that one. The momentum is on the side of the defenders because they didn't have to adjust and put the brakes on like Wallace would've had to. He would have needed a 6 foot vertical to win that one after changing direction and losing all of his momentum.