They're not my cup of tea at all, though they are better than Razorlight (marginally). It's just that it annoys me when I hear things like "they've got 12047190 record companies interested in them and are set to tour East Timor with the bassist from Shed Seven's new band" and the like.

Yeah, looking at your profile I can see why they're not your cup of tea.

It was my fault, I should've mentioned the fact they were indie so you'd steer clear. If you're not into the genre, you're not in a position to make a judgement on how good they are because you're subject to cynical prejudice.

Their lyrics are truly amazing though, in a real northern way, that's something that can't be denied. They got the whole Pulp thing goin' down.

It might annoy you that they have record company interest, but it doesn't stop it from being true. I met the guy from Sony myself, so know it's true. They've been offerred several single deals and turned them down cos they're waiting for a full album deal.

Anyway, fans of proper english gutair based indie should definitely check em out. However if your tastes are similar to Mr Rio's here (check his profile), steer well clear. Disclaimer done :)

They're not and never will be the height of musical innovation, but if it's a potential CDUK number 1 indie band you want, with catchy, witty, social commentary, even catchier songs and the promise of even more to come (they're only 18), then arctic monkeys are your boys

Yep Jared speaks the truth they are good and Dave Rio shouldn't you be doing some essay? CDUK? Top Of The Pops at least. Jools Holland would be better. The humour of the material would be lost on the former's audiences. Alot of people come on forums plugging stuff that is frankly utter shite.

I kinda see your point, but again, it doesn't make anything I said less true.

The interest they've had is much more than "a couple of promising coments". As aforementioned, they've been offerred single deals but rejected them in favour of holding out for a full deal.

The band wouldn't dream of boasting about anything, they're the most humble set of boys in a band I've ever come across.

Myself, however, I want to shout from the roof tops how good they are at what they do, cos there's a whole lotta folks out there that will like them given the chance to hear them and I feel they have massive commercial potential.

I'm not afraid of ending up with egg on my face if nothing gargantuan happens for them. Whether they get a major recording contract or not, they have still made- and will no doubt continue to make- music that people dig, and I want to make the people that *will* enjoy their work (their 'target audience' in marketing parlance) aware of who they are and their songs.

I'd do this with any new/unknown/obscure band I like Pour example, I have bigged up Maximo Park and 80s garage rockers the Wolfhounds (my fave band of all time-www.thewolfhounds.co.uk) on here and have no personal association with either band. I'm not crowing saying "look at how good this band are, I'm mates with 'em, aren't I big and clever!". I loath people that try and act cool through association with talented people. I'd much rather concentrate on my own artistic talent (which, incidentally, I'm refining and striving to improve at the mo) than ride on the crest of a mates.

In conclusion, a lot of people who like witty, indie pop are gonna like this band, maybe even fall in love with them. I offer you my sincere apologies for the fact that you won't be one of them.

From what i've heard of them, i'd have to agree with you about them being the best unsigned band around.
But if your their mate could you ask 'em to put the harley gig back a week (the one next monday- if it's true that its on). I'm off to edinburgh on the sunday and i've already had to sell me hope of the states tickets and i'm pissed off if i miss another great gig...

I can get you in to some cheeky, invite only gigs we're putting on at secret venues in the near future, if you're that desperate to see the boys. The Creme de la Creme of the Sheffield music scene will be there (ie more acts tha just Arctic Monkeys and Judan Suki-the best 2 bands in Sheff imho) if I have my way!

my favourite band online are lansing-dreiden, they are as unlocal as i could get (canadian) but i am exceptionally drunk, and to keep relevance, i like desc, which is disticntly uncontroversial for a burgher.

on a totally nasty point, i hate justyfinig my music taste on this site, at the end of the day what i think is right, (this goes for everybody). and thus i only ever get involved in crap arguments.

anyway i am drunk! i know jared is a fellow wednesday supporter, so i feel we should be in a mutual good mood that our recent results are better than those of satan and his troops, give or take a division. and while our manager is scruffy, he would probably make a better model than myself. southampton should whip themselves with a kipper.

Yep, it's the same Harley. If you wanna see not 1 but 2 famous bands before they're famous (not just Arctic Monkeys, but their bigger brothers from the 'See The Truth' scene, Judan Suki as well) get along to the gig. Monday 15h November 7.30ish.

I have every confidence that both Arctic Monkeys and Judan Suki will get recording contracts in the not too distant future (although Suki, by their own admission, need a little more work yet). They really are that good and it'll be a travesty if they don't. I'm saying that as a fan and a music geek as well as as a mate.

Check out the monkeys' tracks on the aforementioned link. Scummy really is a classic indie-pop track with uber witty lyrics

Next couple of Sheffield gigs are at the Zen Arcade (dunno where that is personally) on 12th December and Leadmill on 18th December (which I can't go to cos I'm watching Charlatans in Leeds :( )

The other main band I'm into round these parts are/were called Judan Suki (may be changing their name soon), they're playing the Leadmill on December 2nd and are v.v. good. Also keep an eye out for Trap 2, Long Blondes, Harrissons, Milburn and The Mothafuckers

True, to an extent, they're not particularly original musically (at least not on the 4 tracks on their website, but two of their songs 'Fake Tales of San Francisco' and 'Choo Choo' are unique, the latter in particular). But I never said they were.

Lyrically however, the only people Alex is similar to are the likes of Jarvis Cocker and Moz. There's some excellent, if austere, social commentary in there and some of it puts such revered poets like Pete Doherty to shame (as much as I think the guy's brill).

Also, I did say that if you're not a fan of the genre, you're probably not going to like the band. You like Sigur Ros, I'm pretty sure their albums won't be in arctic monkeys' cd racks :)

Yes, KOL (my namesake included) are all hairy, inbred, redneck fooks. Ugly as fookin' sin. I know for definite cos I just double checked on google images. If you got laid by them and got pregnant, the kid would look like Sloth from the Goonies.

But then, who am I to criticise? I'm ginger!

As for the Charlatans, I'm seeing them in L**ds and they're the 3rd of my 3 day December gig-fest. Preceeded 1st by Babyshambles in Sheffield and then by the Manics in Manchester. Funarama!

Never said everybody was gonna like them. Apologies. No need to swear at me though peaches :)

However, dismissing bands on the basis of three mp3 clips and 1 full track is quite foolish. And the Libs comparisons are so bloody tired now. *Yawn*. Monkeys can play their instruments fine, you should take the cloth out yer ears.

Gawd, there's so much bitchiness when a new band comes out that makes commercial and accessible indie-pop. The Monkeys better steel themselves for more such criticism cos it aint gonna go away. Being anti-indie pop and anti pop in general is such a bourgeois pretentious music snob trait. It's about as sexy as snot.

Thanks for the tip though, will check out Lyca Sleep if I can find any MP3s.

That Jared kid pretty much reminds me of every annoying Arctic Monkeys fan I've come across in the last two years. Complete lack of taste, complete belief that everything AMs ever wrote is the greatest thing ever, and complete disbelief that anyone doesn't like them.