yeah yall realize dre is only 20 years old.. a big man with type of hands and athleticism just needs practice practice. im not sayin he's gonna be the next big thing, but it wouldnt shock me if he ended up being really good.

In 4 years there's no telling how good he'll be. I reckon he'll get a fair bit better than what he is now and be capable of producing real well. Scoring may never be too high because the team has other great scorers but Biedrins may well end up having the ability to score very well

I agree with #32 about Dre being inconsistent, probably will be his whole career. But I think he can be pretty consistent at the boards, and his scoring will improve. Instead of doing games of 16 and 2 the next one, he'll do games of 16 and 8 the next one, thus giving that average around 12, IMO.

I love Ike as much as the next person on this board but I think this trade would help both teams because it would make the 76ers younger and GET US TO THE EFFIN PLAYOFFS!!!! The 6ers lineup would look like
Baron at PG (he plays rly well after he's traded)
Korver (or who they draft) at SG (can't play D but he's ok)
Iguadola at SF (he will be an allstar some day)
Webber at PF (still got a bit of run in him)
With ike backing up at PF(ready to take over when web dies)
Dalembert at center (damn good...for a center... in the east)
plus whoever they draft
And the warriors lineup would look like this
Iverson (he's allen effing iverson)
Jrich (he played like an allstar the second half of the season)
Monta off the bench
Fish off the bench
that backcourt alone would lead us to the playoffs. SF, PF, and C would be up for grabs because of drafting and trading, but I think that any team with AI and Jrich with monta and fish backing up would make the playoffs.

Diogu is the future here, along with JRich and maybe Biedrins and Monta! He can not be traded, especially this early!

Trading Baron for say, Jameer Nelson and Fran Vasquez (he should come to the nba soon) would be a viable trade (throw in one of the Magic's expiring contracts to make it work) and not necessarily a drop off in talent as Jameer looks like a top tier PG. The team then not only gets rid of a huge contract of a so far somewhat disappointing player but also gets a future big man

Diogu is the future here, along with JRich and maybe Biedrins and Monta! He can not be traded, especially this early!

Trading Baron for say, Jameer Nelson and Fran Vasquez (he should come to the nba soon) would be a viable trade (throw in one of the Magic's expiring contracts to make it work) and not necessarily a drop off in talent as Jameer looks like a top tier PG. The team then not only gets rid of a huge contract of a so far somewhat disappointing player but also gets a future big man

make a trade that fits within the cap and then we can talk. And I love Ike but Iverson is a top 10 player and him + jrich + monta = playoffs. I don't think that anybody who isn't an allstar is untradeable and when you've missed 12 playoffs in a row you have to think about now, not the future

For the time being that leaves us with the lineup of
AI
Jrich
Marion
Murphy
Biedrins
with barbosa and fish coming off the bench along with the #24 and #27 picks. we use those to draft two Forwards and we have a lineup that isn't thin at any position, isn't close to as injury prone as before, and is ready to make some noise in the playoffs. Will it win it all? no. will it be good enough to satisfy warriors fans hungry for the playoffs? absolutely

And yes I hate to let monta and ike and pietrus go but look at the team we could have

Trading Baron for say, Jameer Nelson and Fran Vasquez (he should come to the nba soon) would be a viable trade (throw in one of the Magic's expiring contracts to make it work) and not necessarily a drop off in talent as Jameer looks like a top tier PG. The team then not only gets rid of a huge contract of a so far somewhat disappointing player but also gets a future big man

Fran Vazquez is as sh*tty as they come. He can't even crack the starting five in Europe. I like Jameer, but Vazquez doesn't have to fire to be a bball player. He has the body and the tools, but not the will.

About AI... that team wouldn't go anywhere. AI and J-Rich is a great backcourt, but that team has no defense (other than AI) and no low post scoring. And AI is getting old. He's going to fall fast once age becomes a factor (and I guess, with all the pounding he gets each season, it's only two or three seasons away). Even if we could make the playoffs, it would only be as one of the lowest seeds. It's not worthy. You only make moves like this when they make you a clear contender, not just to reach the playoffs.

put down the crack pipe guys, this would turn into some west coast ny knicks shiz if we made any of those trades. lets get real. if the sixers cant do shiz with iverson in the weak ass east how he gonna do anything in the west? a first round playoff exit until he bounces? no thanks.