NK - I cant speak for the other brands but as far as the Exile pricing goes, yes, thats correct on the XM7's. If you need any Exile questions answered, give us a call at the office (888-249-0970) and we'll run you through your options and can find you a local retailer if needed. Can also go over your current stereo setup details.

You can't beat Earmark Marine right now with David's promo page. He's got lots of Bullet 770 speaker AND amp packages. You can get a pair of Bullet 770's AND a JL Audio G1300 amp for $899. I have two pair of Bullet 770 and two JL G1300 amps, plus 6 Bullet 605" cabin speakers...all from Earmark.

Whats up Naeb the price on the exile xm-7s seems to be right around in the middle- price wise but in my own opinion has the best technology and is the newest and greatest. I have 6 on my tower. You cant beat the options of 100% theft proof tower speaker, a speaker that spins 360degrees while playing and a company that is there to help you everystep of the way. Good luck

Well if you are going to detach the Exile XM7s, be sure that you take them with you instead of leaving them stored in the boat. The remaining collars can be a dead giveaway and mean easy pickings for a would-be thief.
We carry three of the four HLCD brands listed by the OP, Bullet HollowPoint, Exile and WetSounds, and we have all of them side by side on a working display. Each one of them has something distinctive to offer. I would certainly recommend any of the three depending on the individual, his particular taste and priorities. Having all three in the same environment, on equal power and with the ability to switch between them will diffuse alot of the arguements. I wish everyone could here the comparison like we have it.

Are you sure that thosse speakers are 100% theftproof? Please tell me you really don't beleive that they are 100% theftproof.

If a guy was to remove them from his tower and take them home with him or whatever I'd say it's pretty much 100% theftproof. If some would be thief was to follow this individual home, break into his house, kick his dog, then steal his speakers I guess you have a point. They would only be 99.99% theftproof then.

Hate,
Since they are all great products I doubt that the audio quality of a camera and computer playback speakers could capture the finer differences. Although we can switch up to 18 different tower speakers we don't waste valuable space on non-contenders. If its on display longterm then we consider it to be a legit choice. This does however bring some of the hype down to earth and show real distinctions in an equal environment on equal power.
What is funny is that there is still alot of bias. A consumer without brand pre-conditioning might follow a random pattern on his selection based on what forms his/her perception of what sounds the best, which is subjective and normal. An existing brand owner or representative of any particular brand tends to hear what they believed in advance regardless of the actual audio experience. Selection is often made instantly on sight before the sound is turned on. A blindfold test delivers completely different results. All you can do is provide a fair setting and let the chips fall.
I also believe that the 'best' always has to be qualified. Best value, best output, best sound quality based on what preconceptions? No single product is the best in every category. So I always like to ask alot of questions first before assuming I know what is best for a particular person, boat or application.

NK - I cant speak for the other brands but as far as the Exile pricing goes, yes, thats correct on the XM7's. If you need any Exile questions answered, give us a call at the office (888-249-0970) and we'll run you through your options and can find you a local retailer if needed. Can also go over your current stereo setup details.

Cheers,

-Brian
Exile Audio

Brian -

We all appreciate the support you're trying to offer your customers, potential or current, but please support the community you're trying to obtain business from by becoming a supporting vendor...

We all appreciate the support you're trying to offer your customers, potential or current, but please support the community you're trying to obtain business from by becoming a supporting vendor...

What the hell? You got a vested interest here? Quite opinionated for a newb aren't you? Just be glad our audio pros show up here and lend their opinions to those that ask these questions and quit trying to be the voice of WW and the community, invisible would be better in this case.

What the hell? You got a vested interest here? Quite opinionated for a newb aren't you? Just be glad our audio pros show up here and lend their opinions to those that ask these questions and quit trying to be the voice of WW and the community, invisible would be better in this case.

Yeah he said push you tword a dealer. Unfortunately there are plenty of areas that have Zero coverage. Not sure how Brian runs his business but typically when products are purchased direct they are done at full retail. I am sure no other stereo manu has EVER sold direct. Nice wet sounds set up.

Unvis - I think in a previous post I mentioned to you that Exile indeed already has company plans to do that. If you want details you can give the office a call and speak to my marketing guy and he can go over those plans with you. I read somewhere you where looking at upgrading to Exile amps. If you want to do that, I'll send 100% of the profit to this site in support that way you can support WW too. I dont mean that in a "call you out way". Lets all support!

Shoot me a PM if you want to do that. And even if you dont... no crime, I'd be happy to help ya kick around any stereo upgrade idea's. After 20+ years of the stereo circus, I know a thing or two.

I can see Unvisible's point though I agree it is great that the audio folks offer so much insight into their products and help solve many problems without being directly compensated for their time. That being said, they are advertising (in an indirect way) by helping and IMO it would be nice if they supported the forum that allows them the oppurtunity to reach so many potential customers.

Yes, i'm a massive tool for asking that someone consistently trying to drum up business on a forum, while several other companies are paying big bucks for the rights to advertise here, support the community he seems to value so highly as a marketing medium? You couldnt be more ignorant. I am a supporting vendor on several websites, not relating to boats, I pay to support those communities, so that I will have continued access to new consumers that will purchase product from me.

What the hell? You got a vested interest here? Quite opinionated for a newb aren't you? Just be glad our audio pros show up here and lend their opinions to those that ask these questions and quit trying to be the voice of WW and the community, invisible would be better in this case.

A newb huh? how about you post pictures of the stereo you built and designed in your boat, and i'll do the same...

What is the point about calling Brian out for currently not having banner ads on this site yet? Especially when he had already stated that they are in the works. Why not call out other people who offer support who are associated with a particular manufacture/business for them not paying for banner ads as well? Heck you shoud also be calling out every one on here who provides a recommendation or gives support to particular brand, because they were just involved in indirect advertising.

What is the point about calling Brian out for currently not having banner ads on this site yet? Especially when he had already stated that they are in the works. Why not call out other people who offer support who are associated with a particular manufacture/business for them not paying for banner ads as well? Heck you shoud also be calling out every one on here who provides a recommendation or gives support to particular brand, because they were just involved in indirect advertising.

A newb huh? how about you post pictures of the stereo you built and designed in your boat, and i'll do the same...

Who's talking systems? Show me yours and i'll show you mine? Pretty childish, how old are you? I've done many but that's besides the point and not the issue here tool. For a WW newb you come on here like your Billy Graham of the boarding community preaching your opinion on right and wrong. Who gives a crap and why should you? Save it for your congregation.

Yes, i'm a massive tool for asking that someone consistently trying to drum up business on a forum, while several other companies are paying big bucks for the rights to advertise here, support the community he seems to value so highly as a marketing medium? You couldnt be more ignorant. I am a supporting vendor on several websites, not relating to boats, I pay to support those communities, so that I will have continued access to new consumers that will purchase product from me.

Funny you mention ignorance. If you were UN-ignorant you would have already known from the last time you tried to call out brian from Exile he's had that conversation with David and is already working that. I can dig that up for you but given your WW superhero status I'm sure you can find it.

Funny you mention ignorance. If you were UN-ignorant you would have already known from the last time you tried to call out brian from Exile he's had that conversation with David and is already working that. I can dig that up for you but given your WW superhero status I'm sure you can find it.

You should also uniformly use that paintbrush to paint the retailers that frequent this section to drum up business should also really be supporting the site as well. Really they have the most to gain financially from the manufacturers chiming in with the advice.

I really fail to see the reason why anyone gets on here to police the contributions of members. David has people in place that do it. I feel that by their contrubutions they are supporting this sight. I know that when I see that Brian, Tim, Phil, David, Ben (soundbox) and the like post on a thread, I'm quick to read it and I'm sure that I am not alone in that. Whether they pay or not they directly contribute to the sites traffic which draws in advertisers. They take the time to help make us informed consumers, obviously they want to peddle their wares but they are more often than not are careful to advise that said consumer try out different products to determine what is best for them.

I got an email from them. I have bought a few racks over the years and I am on their mailing list. I actually bought all my bullet HLCD's off ebay. I personally like the look of the NVS speakers the best. If I had a bigger budget I would have gone with them.

Thanks for the info from everyone. I am definitely going to use all this info to make my tower speaker purchase. My in boat speakers are all setup and I went with Alpine and they sound great so far, but not knowing anything about HLCD's has postponed progress.

I do have another question. Does anybody have any Info about the Roswell HLCD speakers? I couldn't find anything anywhere.

Alright murphy Im sorry there not 100% theft proof, there 99.9% theft proof. My whole point was the fact that they come down in less than 30secs and you can go ahead and take them home. Not talking down any other brand names but sometimes that can be a deal breaker especially if you leave your boat visible to anyone.

I heard that Roswell was attempting an OEM HLCD project for Nautique but there were issues and this got put on hold. We've got alot of people trying to get in on the HLCD action but not all of them have the technical capablities to bring something worthwhile or different to the table. While Roswell builds and supports tower accessories I'm a bit skeptical as to what they may know about speakers. We will see.

Phoenix Gold. Its getting off topic but there is something going on there. Years ago PG was 'THE' premier high current amplifier in mobile electronics. They never were much of a woofer or speaker company although they had offerings like everyone else...nothing special in that category. It kind of drifted off track and then sold out. The line turned into nothing more than cheap imports...just another flea market brand. Thus the speakers in the Roswell pods. Gone. Now the original president and one of the key technical guys permantly reside overseas. Recently Aamp of America bought all the rights to the brand. The overseas technical guy went from consultant to full time employee. They have introduced a new line of amplifiers based on the topology (at least very similar to with the obvious advancements that time and technology would provide) of the original PG amplifiers from twenty years ago. Pretty good stuff. Hate, you should take a very close look at those new PG amplifiers just for grins. So the new Phoenix Gold stuff is a lot different from what you have seen in the past decade and much more like the vintage gear. Just an FYI for those who care.

Yes, i'm a massive tool for asking that someone consistently trying to drum up business on a forum, while several other companies are paying big bucks for the rights to advertise here, support the community he seems to value so highly as a marketing medium?

Since you've been an integral part of this community for so long I suppose it's only logical that you know how much people are paying to advertise. Including some of the people that helped Dave make this place a premier forum. Thanks for the sage like insight.

Is there any association with PG amps nowdays and the exile amps? Some of the specs are exactly identical. AND BY NO MEANS am I saying it is bad or good if they are. IMO, the new PG amps are solid and if Exile used their platform - Kudos to them

Is there any association with PG amps nowdays and the exile amps? Some of the specs are exactly identical. AND BY NO MEANS am I saying it is bad or good if they are. IMO, the new PG amps are solid and if Exile used their platform - Kudos to them

That seems kinda funny given the PG amps just came out and the Exile amps have been out quite a while now .

It looks like their is an association b/t the PG and Exile. All you have to do is google it!!! It sounds like the old PG guys knew what they were doing whenthe built the Exile amps and through my searching have read lots of positive reviews. IMO, there is nothing wrong with getting guys PG to help with amps - Hats off to Exile for picking those guys up.

It looks like their is an association b/t the PG and Exile. All you have to do is google it!!! It sounds like the old PG guys knew what they were doing whenthe built the Exile amps and through my searching have read lots of positive reviews. IMO, there is nothing wrong with getting guys PG to help with amps - Hats off to Exile for picking those guys up.

Just spit balling here but maybe since the Exile guys are old school PG guys maybe they came up with the design first. It would seem likely if in fact the XI's came to market first which was 2009. If PG's getting old school why not enlist some of their former guys to help with some bad ass amp design's.

Yeah from what I have seen from Exile they seem pretty innovative and don't tend to lean on othe companys for design. By that I mean they're not just repping out the same thing everyone else is doing. The same can be said for Wetsounds and Bullet.

I wonder if the idea originated in house at PG for those amps and the guys left before they could get them to production. They are definately simliar and power and design...looks and size are different.

It wouldn't be the first time someone took an idea that started at one company and brought it to another company and in turn was able to get it produced and on the market faster that the orig company

Similar, but not identical as the chassis orientation and circuit boards are different. As NuBu stated the current Exile amplifiers where first to market before the PG. The Morgan West individual mentioned in the review, who was with the original PG, then X3 Development and then Exile, is now a full time employee with Aamp of America which owns the new PG brand. Morgan West resides overseas as does the original president of PG. Do not confuse this new Phoenix Gold with the PG you have seen the last decade. The new PG is back to its roots making excellent high current amplifiers based on the same topology as Exile and roughly the same approach as the original PG amplifiers nearly 20 years ago. Actually, Earmark was one of the first ten Phoenix Gold dealers in the nation and many of the original cast have been in our stores for training.

Oh boy. I feel bad for the poor guy that asked about HLCD's. This thread has gone off the cliff lol.

Since we are on the industry topic now, I'll clear a few things up for the crew. The old school PG gear of the 90's was awesome stuff. As the company evolved, so did the product aim. And unfortunately after 15 years at the company I found it time to leave because I didnt agree with the evolution. Yes, true, I left and took several people with me. The company I founded in 2003 is called X3 development and Morgan and others where part of that. You guys would all probably get a kick out of the X3 website because it showcases the design of what you know as the XM7. Anyway, Exile is a brand owned by X3. Two years ago or so, when PG finally was on its way to liquidation, AAMP bought the assets and wanted to re-launch it. They hired Morgan to help them. I think he's done a great job.

And yes, for the record, the Name "Exile" was born out of my frustration with the original PG company gone bad. I effectively put myself into Exile. It wasnt fun getting sued 60 days after I left. But hey, the rest is history...

I'd view the new PG as a fresh page in the book.

-Brian
Exile Audio

ps: I even remember training earmark guys in davids stores with the Mckinney sales guys...whoa! long time ago.

Brian,
Must be in the water up there. You send a guy up to the NW and before you know it he's trying to take credit for everything. But seriously, Paul was very, very capable but had no hand in the van project as you see it. Several guys worked on it but the work was not acceptable to me and we gutted it and started over from scratch several times. Poor guys. I did the design and a fellow named Sam Montobono did 100 percent of the workmanship. Sam was actually our electronics repairman. He nailed everything the first time. He was more particular than me. All the interior structure was formed from birch and fiberglass mat panels. There was so much in the way of automation, lighting, security, under the hood and more that we didn't capture. Sold the van a couple of years ago for $5K with less than 10k miles and all the work intact. It was a different era.
David