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Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

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You're stringing waaaaaay too tight, especially with something like RPM. I've screwed around with a lot of set ups in the PSL over the past few years, and usually with poly I'm stringing high 40's. It still provides the crispness that I want from a poly, but doesn't feel totally dead outside the sweet spot.

With a nice multi like NRG, I can totally see that you like higher tensions however. I'd definitely drop down to around 52-54 and see if you like that though. It would for sure increase the dwell time. The issue with using thin gauge string however, is the sailing issue I find prevalent with 18g string. Hence why I try to stick to 17g in a 18x20's.

How about the cheaper gut? Like the $30 packs on TW? Would those be ok? I am not a stringer breaker by any means, hit a flat game. Like Klip Legend?

Kind of sucks too, I spent my last set of NRG2 on my PDR right before I got this pair...

I still have a couple sets of NXT and Donnay Multi. though, think those would work?

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The best thing for you as a non string breaker is to eventually put in a good quality gut and play with them until they break. You can try the cheaper guts but they might not be the same quality as VS and thus last less. You might just get the biggest bang for your buck with VS as it is very durable.

Why not put the NXT or Donnay strings in? Maybe go for about 52-53 lbs and see how they play. Over time when they start to behave strangely cut them out.

Does anyone string their PS Ltds at 50 or lower tension? If so, what strings and what's your observations in the playage with that setup? Sorry if already stated here, too much backreading.

I've tried with RPM 16 at 58 and it played well for a few sets then went dead and everything sailed. I've also tried with NRG 18 at 58-59, which played pretty well. I'm eager to go pretty low with a thin multi and try to increase dwell time, but worried about control and sailing factor. Please let me know your views. Thank you.

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I used a full multi at 50/48 with the PSLGT. Great control, more power, very arm friendly.

I have been using this racquet for a few weeks now after playing with a 2012 Pure Drive. I felt the PD was a nice racquet, but with my unrefined strokes it was really limiting my game because I felt gunshy with it. The Pure Storm GT LTD changed my game for the better because I am able to take full swings and still keep the ball in between the lines for the most part. Maybe this racquet will help me develop my strokes better. The only problem I have is having diminished pace with my one handed backhand, which can be quite a challenge when having to use it on the run.

The best thing for you as a non string breaker is to eventually put in a good quality gut and play with them until they break. You can try the cheaper guts but they might not be the same quality as VS and thus last less. You might just get the biggest bang for your buck with VS as it is very durable.

Why not put the NXT or Donnay strings in? Maybe go for about 52-53 lbs and see how they play. Over time when they start to behave strangely cut them out.

I used a full multi at 50/48 with the PSLGT. Great control, more power, very arm friendly.

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Alright, I will give that a try, if not, I was checking the Strings section and people have said a regular Syn. Gut such as PSGD works well as well. I plan in stringing at or below 50 anyway.

I have been using this racquet for a few weeks now after playing with a 2012 Pure Drive. I felt the PD was a nice racquet, but with my unrefined strokes it was really limiting my game because I felt gunshy with it. The Pure Storm GT LTD changed my game for the better because I am able to take full swings and still keep the ball in between the lines for the most part. Maybe this racquet will help me develop my strokes better. The only problem I have is having diminished pace with my one handed backhand, which can be quite a challenge when having to use it on the run.

Mine is strung at 56 pounds with Technifibr X1

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I am in a similar sense as well, except I want to improve my game with the frame. I feel that the PDRs deso all the work for me, given its power and larger sweet spot, it works too well such that now I have lazy footwork, lazy strokes and everything bc it is such as frame that allows me to keep the ball in play as long as I run around and just swing at the ball.

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

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I have a friend who uses this frame and has a 2hbh, he does just fine with it. We are all around 4.0s.

Thanks guys. Going to give it a shot with a lower tension and see how that works. Also was wondering if anyone plays with this stick with a two-handed backhand? I feel like it was born for one-handers. I have historically used one hand, but in league play this year experienced difficulty handling powerful shots to my backhand and hitting with consistency.

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I hit a pretty monstrous 2HBH and I find this frame likes it a lot. I can hit really clean, powerful shots with it. I play at high 4.5. :razz:

Quick question, how do you think a hybrid would work on this? Say a decent multi. (17g most likely) with an 18g Poly, Genesis Heptonic to be exact. Or would it be better to just go all out Full Multi./something soft?

Alright just finished the new stringjob, I really dislike stringing 18x20...

So I did a full job of Babolat Attraction Power 17g @ 52/50. Although the I made a rookie mistake and forgot to tension the last cross, so it may be even lower, but I expect that once I start hitting, it should even out some more.

Hi guys,
I have 3 x PS Ltd GT hopefully coming on Friday.
I have been using the PS GT with Xcel strings at 55lbs, but playtested an old PS Ltd and loved it. It reminded me of the Head Pro Tour 630 (blue Muster racquet) that I used in the past.
I love the Xcel string as it is very simliar to natural gut, forgiving and responsive.
What tension does everyone advise I string my new PS GT Ltd at with Xcel strings, bearing in mind 55lbs feels right in my current PS GT? I play reasonably well at about 5.0 level.

Hi guys,
I have 3 x PS Ltd GT hopefully coming on Friday.
I have been using the PS GT with Xcel strings at 55lbs, but playtested an old PS Ltd and loved it. It reminded me of the Head Pro Tour 630 (blue Muster racquet) that I used in the past.
I love the Xcel string as it is very simliar to natural gut, forgiving and responsive.
What tension does everyone advise I string my new PS GT Ltd at with Xcel strings, bearing in mind 55lbs feels right in my current PS GT? I play reasonably well at about 5.0 level.

I did a lower, cheaper version of Xcel the other night, and took it out, Attraction Power at 52/50. It's not bad, still low powered, but soft and very nice feel. Especially for playing net, it works really well. I am still adjusting, especial long coming from Roddicks. But I enjoy the frame, we will see how it is. Great control.

I would say anything in the lower 50s should work well. Or possibly even lower. Because of the tight string pattern anything will feel somewhat very tight. I mean even mine at 52/50 feels like it is strung in the mid to higher 50s.

I think there had been a post or two going over the difference between any two of the various models however can someone post the difference between the 3 models? I play with the original 'bumblebee' model and feel I will eventually find it difficult to find this model which I happen to love. I'm curious as to how the recent models play...

I have one of the 2008 models and 4 of the 2009. The 2011 model is just a new paintjob and plays identical to the 2009. The 2009 model added the GT tech and as a result it plays a little more crisp. I also think they redistributed the weight a little as it has a slightly higher SW. In play the 2009 seems to have a bit more power. But the big difference is really the feel as the 2008 and 2009 each have their particular feel. It really comes down to what feel you prefer, the GT feel or the non GT feel.

So I have two of the PS Ltds. I have one 2011 one and a 2009 one. I got the 2009 about a month ago when the price plummeted, and I've felt that it was lighter. Yesterday, I went to the local tennis shop and they weighted them both. They both came back at 12.25 (with strings, over grip, and dampener). The 2009 was 11 points HL and the 2011 was 10 pts. HL. Is it possible that that is the difference I'm noticing? I love the feel of the 2011 one that is 11 pts. HL; where would I add lead to make the the 2009 one a point more HL? And as they are now, which one has the heavier swing weight?

So I have two of the PS Ltds. I have one 2011 one and a 2009 one. I got the 2009 about a month ago when the price plummeted, and I've felt that it was lighter. Yesterday, I went to the local tennis shop and they weighted them both. They both came back at 12.25 (with strings, over grip, and dampener). The 2009 was 11 points HL and the 2011 was 10 pts. HL. Is it possible that that is the difference I'm noticing? I love the feel of the 2011 one that is 11 pts. HL; where would I add lead to make the the 2009 one a point more HL? And as they are now, which one has the heavier swing weight?

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Add a bit at the buttcap end. And without actually measuring the swingweight with a machine, I dont think anyone knows exactly.

I did a lower, cheaper version of Xcel the other night, and took it out, Attraction Power at 52/50. It's not bad, still low powered, but soft and very nice feel. Especially for playing net, it works really well. I am still adjusting, especial long coming from Roddicks. But I enjoy the frame, we will see how it is. Great control.

I would say anything in the lower 50s should work well. Or possibly even lower. Because of the tight string pattern anything will feel somewhat very tight. I mean even mine at 52/50 feels like it is strung in the mid to higher 50s.

I've been using an original Pure Storm Ltd strung at 52lbs with Xcel and am about to receive my new Pure Storm GT Ltd's, if I string them at 52lbs with Xcel will they feel identical, or do I need to increase or reduce the tension for it to feel identical?

You could go up by 1 pound - the newer version feels slightly more comfortable/with a tad less feedback.

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Thanks for your feedback, I will try the 1lb increase.
So you think the new GT is slightly more comfortable in the sense that you squeeze a slightly higher tension out of it.
Can I ask what level you play at and what string you use in your PS GT LTD? Thanks J

So you think the new GT is slightly more comfortable in the sense that you squeeze a slightly higher tension out of it

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Exactly, you can afford to go up a little, unless you want to add power and more pocketing, sparing the (theoretical) increase in control.

I am 4-5-5.0; more into racquet customization and transitioning to coaching the last years. I currently play with other frames and typically go full co-poly. The PST ltd and the Dunlop Bio 200 have been the only sticks I would do hybrids (both very low-powered).

I remember trying thin gauges of co-poly with synthetic gut crosses. Adrenaline 1.20 with 1.25 Tecnifibre Synthetic gut. It was not bad at all, very balanced, unless you played with extreme spin.

Exactly, you can afford to go up a little, unless you want to add power and more pocketing, sparing the (theoretical) increase in control.

I am 4-5-5.0; more into racquet customization and transitioning to coaching the last years. I currently play with other frames and typically go full co-poly. The PST ltd and the Dunlop Bio 200 have been the only sticks I would do hybrids (both very low-powered).

I remember trying thin gauges of co-poly with synthetic gut crosses. Adrenaline 1.20 with 1.25 Tecnifibre Synthetic gut. It was not bad at all, very balanced, unless you played with extreme spin.

I use a semi-western grip myself.
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Ok that's helpful. My PS GT Ltd are coming tomorrow (I hope). I've been using the original PS Ltd this weekend and just love them, so can't wait for the new sticks. I feel like a teenager again. I used to play a 6.0 level but now would struggle to play a 5.0 level or less. I mainly coach now, but this racket has given me the excitement to hit some balls again. I've never ever lacked any power but have always searched for the optimum control in a racket. This is it, I think!
I'm going to string all three i get at 53lbs tomorrow. Or do you think I should vary the tensions in all three, ie; 53, 54, 55 lbs?
Only thing about this though is when you find the right tension you have cut the string's out of the other two...

Are you going to string with xcel? If you are stuck with it, I think it is not a bad idea to string at different tensions (in which case reserving a slot for your previous reference tension would be nice).

If you are willing to try different strings though, I would try 3 different setups with similar and "safe enough" tensions. Then I would take the winner out of those and fine tune it.

Ok that's helpful. My PS GT Ltd are coming tomorrow (I hope). I've been using the original PS Ltd this weekend and just love them, so can't wait for the new sticks. I feel like a teenager again. I used to play a 6.0 level but now would struggle to play a 5.0 level or less. I mainly coach now, but this racket has given me the excitement to hit some balls again. I've never ever lacked any power but have always searched for the optimum control in a racket. This is it, I think!
I'm going to string all three i get at 53lbs tomorrow. Or do you think I should vary the tensions in all three, ie; 53, 54, 55 lbs?
Only thing about this though is when you find the right tension you have cut the string's out of the other two...

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If possible, assuming you string for yourself and strings at least last you one session. Why don't you string one of them up at that tension, decide if that is what you like or needs adjustment. And then stir up the others, with this, you won't have to waste string, nor dislike it if you choose the wrong tension.

Are you going to string with xcel? If you are stuck with it, I think it is not a bad idea to string at different tensions (in which case reserving a slot for your previous reference tension would be nice).

If you are willing to try different strings though, I would try 3 different setups with similar and "safe enough" tensions. Then I would take the winner out of those and fine tune it.

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Yes I intended to string with Xcel, because it's so comfortable on my shoulder, arm, elbow, wrist etc. I've hit a lot of tennis balls in my life and my right limb is pretty shot, but I find Xcel allows me to play as if I don't have any problems.
I hit for an hour with Big Banger the other other day and I thought my arm etc was going to explode.
Are then any strings out there that compare with Xcel for comfort and playability?

Are you going to string with xcel? If you are stuck with it, I think it is not a bad idea to string at different tensions (in which case reserving a slot for your previous reference tension would be nice).

If you are willing to try different strings though, I would try 3 different setups with similar and "safe enough" tensions. Then I would take the winner out of those and fine tune it.

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Yes I intended to string with Xcel, because it's so comfortable on my shoulder, arm, elbow, wrist etc. I've hit a lot of tennis balls in my life and my right limb is pretty shot, but I find Xcel allows me to play as if I don't have any problems.
I hit for an hour with Big Banger the other other day and I thought my arm etc was going to explode.
Are then any strings out there that compare with Xcel for comfort and playability?

Anyone try any lead at 3/9 with this frame? How much weight? Also, are there any synthetic cushioned grips that weigh as much as a leather grip? I am finding the leather grip to be a bit too hard for me.

Just got my 2011 Ltd. restrung. I use Kirschbaum Pro Line 11 17 g. I've been stringing it at 52 since I bought the Ltds and also used to string my microgel prestiges at the same tension. Just dropped it to 50. I definitely noticed the difference. Once the string warmed up, there was much more trampoline and power. I like it.

I've read a couple a couple of the posts in here that gut is the best for the stick. These sticks are really extremely low powered. I though my prestige mid was lower powered. The Ltd--I have one 2009 and one 2011- might be even moreso. I looked at the gut prices. That ain't gonna happen. The last time I used a syn gut, playing about two hours a day, three times a week, they didn't last long enough.

I've only had these Ltds for about four months after three years with the prestiges. I'm still trying to find my way. What do you think the difference in feel and play would be between my current poly at 50 and a syn gut, were I to find and economical one I liked and put that in?

Yes, I switched to a Wilson Shock Shield grip, and I think it is just as thick and probably weighs as much as leather with an overgrip.

Tried a softer setup, btw, with NXT Tour 17 strung at 50/48. Still getting used to it, but I think I like it.

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As a follow up, played a little more with the above set up. It felt really good. Especially when switching back and forth with my IG Speed. I had much more control with the PSLtd. I may need to try a poly or co-poly around that tension, because I still feel a little lacking in spin.

Hey guys, I have a 2009 PSGT LTD and I can testify that although it is a demanding racket it was this feature that helped me work on my technique and style. I followed some suggestions in here and put 2 tourna lead stickers at 3 & 9 (3.5 gr each) and it improved a lot the stability of my volleys.
I was wondering what would be the impact of an additional sticker at 12 o' clock. Do the positives outweigh the negatives of such a move?

Hey guys, I have a 2009 PSGT LTD and I can testify that although it is a demanding racket it was this feature that helped me work on my technique and style. I followed some suggestions in here and put 2 tourna lead stickers at 3 & 9 (3.5 gr each) and it improved a lot the stability of my volleys.
I was wondering what would be the impact of an additional sticker at 12 o' clock. Do the positives outweigh the negatives of such a move?

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I play with 6g at 12 and it plays really well. Lots of drive since I found the stability acceptable stock, and didn't need any at 3/9.

Just know that lead at 12 bumps 3 swingweight points for ever 1 gram added.

Hey guys, I have a 2009 PSGT LTD and I can testify that although it is a demanding racket it was this feature that helped me work on my technique and style. I followed some suggestions in here and put 2 tourna lead stickers at 3 & 9 (3.5 gr each) and it improved a lot the stability of my volleys.
I was wondering what would be the impact of an additional sticker at 12 o' clock. Do the positives outweigh the negatives of such a move?

I would be very interested in your conclusions as the 3/9 combination has definitely improved lateral stability for me and would like to know what adding at 12 results into.

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Ok, idk about specifics, but for starters all the lead around the frame opened up and softened up the whole frames sweet spot. I find it much more comfortable to swing now. Power lever is about the same, maybe a little higher, but it is very much more forgiving. Also the swing weight went up a little bit. Nothing too much to make a difference to me, I adjusted quick enough, but it is noticeable. Overall, I really enjoy the frame now, much better than stock.

Any other specific questions, I am not great at giving out these types of explanations.

Yea give it a try, it makes everything more comfortable now, and much for stable. Like with off center hits, before in stock form, I noticed on though, if you swung hard off center it would vibrate and be really dead off impact. But now, I can still hit a decent shot off those.

What is your setup? Right now I have 6g total, 2 at each spot, don't know if I should just keep it like that or add more.

Ok played yesterday but it was a windy day. Anyway I lost two sets using my Youtek speed mp and then took the PSLTDGT and killed my opponent in the 3rd, the placement I can get with this racket is phenomenal!
But I found that it got considerably head heavier by adding ~3.6 gr at 12 so I opened the trap door and added two SS nuts of equal weight wrapped in some overgrip. Balance has been restored and my next test on court will take place on Thursday.

Just decided on this stick on a hunch and I am glad I did. One of the few rackets that really reward you for swinging out. I have mine strung with the free hurricane feel at 40lbs. Which for as crazy dense as the string pattern is really doesn't feel all that low. I can only imagine what it feels like strung 55+.

I was wondering if any one had tried this frame with a thin poly at 30lbs or lower. I feel this would be a frame that is pretty string sensitive. I absolutely love the frame, with the exception on serve and a bit of flutter outside the sweetspot. So I am thinking with an 18g poly at about 30lbs, plus the addition of about 2-4grams of lead at 3-9 or 10-2, would take care of that. The balance is something that I want to keep as low as possible without weighing the static weight to much (right now stock with OG at 12.1oz). Would two grams be enough to sure everything up in your experience? Also would the lead be better placed at 3-9 or 10-2?

Played again today with ~4 gr at 3 & 9 each and I am definitely keeping this setup. This racket has made me improved my technique a lot and although I occasionally play with a HEAD youtek speed MP which is a very good one, it is the sound and placing I get with the PSGTLtd that keeps it my primary stick.
Just for variety I may get a used Wilson BLX ProStaff 6.1 95 to try, anyone with any experience on how it plays compared to the Babolat?

Well strung one of my limited ISOSPEED poly (17g) @ 30lb. Well I have found the power I was looking for but to me it really pushed more of the control out the window than I wanted. Also still not as solid in the head as I would like. Think I will push tension up to about 35-37lbs next stringing and add some lead at 3-9, probably go for longer strips vs small multiple layer lead strips lead.