omg, I think i just swooned a little. Just got off chat with Rob from Apollo. He's selling loads and loads of LavaTubes (called Vtube there) and I just realized the new 'chrome' ones are fabricated in copper with a thin coating of chrome. The stainless are solid, though. So I asked him if any chance of a copper lava tube in near future, and he agreed to chat with Lava Tube owner dude! Might soon be a budget friendly copper mod! So dang cool. But seriously? So going to look at that Chuck. I fear it is well beyond my budget, but gorgeous!!!