Maybe we got so used to seeing TD Honda up there pretty much 9 weekends out of 10. Now the competition has closed up it's a lot harder to be up there all the time, which is no bad thing. Don't write them off yet

Butcher's current car is just as old as his 2018 car - so the age of the car is not the issue. And his performance so far in 2019 shows that he could be a genuine competitor to Cammish.

we are not talking about 2019, you said he was a genuine challenger in 2018 for the JST.
The car might be just as old but the MG was not as competitive as the Honda, The MG hadn't been competitive since about mid 2015, whilst the old shape civic has won something every year. AMD did a reasonable job but did not have the experience or money (and time was split with the audi) to rocket the car to the front again.

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Neal was not eligible for the JST - although Matt Simpson and Rory Butcher had multiple titles in other series prior to BTCC as did Cammish.

Who said Neal was in JST 2018??
Your missing my point that they were in teams which didn't have the same pedigree as Team Dynamics and Dan was pretty much guaranteed the title, Ollie Jackson virtually said this on another forum

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It's not a classic - but in terms of where the issues lie with Halfords Yuasa, it shows that he has potential but is still learning.

Your right they all count but i would value it more if he had to battle a bit more for it

To laud him based on winning a JST in a car from the best team on the grid vs some gentlemen drivers and inexperienced teams is like a player struggling to get in the Manchester United team, sitting on the bench in the cup final and being hailed as a great because he has a medal on his wall.

The AMD Civics have the TOCA engine, so they combine arguably the best NGTC chassis with decent straight line pace. On paper it's the best car, and has real opportunity to embarrass the FK8's. Historically, the package has shown that, Lloyd & Smith at Eurotech in 2017 and BTC Norlin in 2018. However, until now, they've never been piloted by drivers capable of going the distance and take the championship, Tordoff (with a rabbit's foot in hand) has the form to do the job.