Well, I was part of the Kickstarter thing, because I expect to be using FSX for a few years yet - AFS2 wasn't invented in them days. On that basis, I'm happy to prepay for the AFS2 version, even though I have no use for P3D :thumbup: ATB Mike

"HJG DC-10 EXTERIOR NIGHT LIGHTING EFFECTS PATCH" An exterior "night lighting effects" (only) patch is now available for download in order to add the missing exterior tail logo illumination, fuselage landing light reflections, and wing light night lighting effects files to each DC-10 simulation. This patch is accessible per the following "ANNOUCEMENTS & NEWS" forum posting .... Without these effects files the exterior night lighting appearance of each DC-10 will appear like this .... Upon installing the missing effects files the exterior night lighting...

Everybody comes around to Orbx eventually, even me:) For someone who doesn't buy scenery, I own a few NZ-based Orbx products, everything except Milford, I think... (Since I only fly in NZ, I don't have a need for most of the beautiful airports being released these days, and I also don't like to look too closely at others' work -- just in case it destroys my confidence:) Orbx has become the 'Apple' of flightsim scenery, moving from designing a product which people want to showing people what they really want next. For a while a lot of folk in a lot of markets went after that ideal market...

Thanks for the comments CP ....it reads well, but I guess we will just have wait and see. From my point of view, I hope it's not textured as factory fresh, as JF seems to have done a lot in the past. Re CLS, I really enjoyed most of their stuff, I wish could critique these things to the depth that you can. Always appreciate your comments CP :thumbup:

I find ADX lost its soul when D'Andre stepped back to leave only a shadow of itself. Look at the page visits. ADX had a very personal touch which you may or may not have liked, but it was special. Now it's just one more News collection. There's certainly nothing wrong with D'Andre taking the promotion, but at this point it would have been better to just close or at least freeze ADX. IMHO it just doesn't work without him and I rarely visit it those days. BTW, does he really work as an Airline pilot now? I know he works for a major airline, but I thought on ground (which may be wrong, though)....