Saturday, October 28, 2017

Become who you are

A theme revisited frequently here is that being on the left in The Current Year means spending all your time and energy coming up with different ways to say "that is NOT okay" and then scouring society for reasons to say it.

The other day my son and my nephew, aged 3 and 5, were scolded by one of the womenfolk for talking about poop. When I was wrestling with them in the backyard an hour later, they started talking about... poop. Young people, especially boys, don't want to have their words policed. Nothing will make them want to say something more than being told they are not allowed to say it.

The original article, written by Sachi Feris, discusses how her white daughter was torn between dressing as Elsa, from Frozen, or the titular character from Moana. Feris expresses concern that while an Elsa costume might reinforce notions of white privilege, dressing up as Moana is essentially cultural appropriation — the act of reducing someone's culture to stereotypes, and thereby belittling it.

Hey you little white bitch, no matter what you do, it's wrong. It's wrong because you are wrong. Your existence is the scourge of humanity.

Feris and her daughter are (((white))), not white, in case your assumption of as much needed confirmation.

These people are miscreants. It's all I can do to stay away from references to helicopter rides.

Parenthetically, my daughter loves Moana. As a consequence, it's often background noise in the house. I like it, too.

It's superficially PC. The protagonists are a tribe of Pacific Islanders, an acceptable non-white group to celebrate without scaring the whites--unless they live in Hawaii--who will pay to see the movie. The main character is an aspiring butt-kicking babe. Her well-intentioned but misguided father is the first major obstacle she has to overcome to fulfill her destiny.

On the other hand, the sexual dimorphism among members of the tribe is decidedly un-PC. It puts silverback gorillas to shame.

That aside, the movie is about the rebirth--or renaissance, if you prefer--of a people who have lost their way. Having been terrified into meekly settling for something they are not, the story picks up with the protagonist tribe transitioning from a state of contentment to one of languishing that is on its way to becoming one of existential threat. Guided by her moribund grandmother, Moana has a vision of her ancestors that compels her to start the journey that ultimately saves her people from ruin:

There are no other (human) groups in the movie, so the protagonist tribe is not afflicted by a negative identity. Theirs is a positive one. They are not defined by their relationships to oppositional groups. Their morality is that of a master rather, not of a slave.

This is something all peoples deserve. It is, in short, a tale that transpires in a world envisioned by the Alt Right. From Vox Day's 16 points:

The Alt Right ... supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.

The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.

Moana cannot exist in the world dreamt of by the globohomo elite. They could never permit such a thing.

37 comments:

This is something all peoples deserve. It is, in short, a tale that transpires in a world envisioned by the Alt Right.

The problem is that this contradicts the general sentiment and worldview of the alt-right, and thus strikes outside observers as a cynical ploy to appear amenable made from a position of weakness.

One of the chief drives of the alt-right is a rejection of universalism and humanistic morality. "All peoples" and whatever they "deserve" aren't the relevant categories for the alt-right. Moreover, the alt-right rejects guilt and embraces the historical violations of the "rights" and "sovereignty" of various "peoples". If the alt-right does achieve political power, the "rights", sentiments, and interest of other peoples aren't supposed to be sacrosanct considerations that determine the alt-right's views and course of action.

Hillary Clinton talks about human rights and then, as secretary of state, breaks Libya apart and jokes, a la Julius Caesar, that "we came, we saw, he died". The neocons kill hundreds of thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan, and tens of thousands of Westerners, for more-or-less the same stated goals.

The Alt Right supported Trump in part for his pledges to pull back the American empire. Pat Buchanan, who is the intellectual forebearer of Trumpism, has been the most reliable voice against military interventionism over the last couple of decades. Even Bernie Sanders supported the attack on the Serbs.

Do provide a leading light on the Alt Right who talks about wanting to conquer or subjugate non-whites. Spencer, Vox Day, Sailer, Derbyshire--never a word so far as I'm aware.

Dissident Right,

I'm sure these Islanders really just want free trade with the rest of the world (they're self-sufficient) and liberal democracy for themselves (their political structure is one with a chieftain who has autocratic power). If they don't understand that, we'll have to make it clear to them. Mobilize the troops!

Mark Auld,

I think it's a strong de facto possibility, and it's not inconceivable that it will be de jure (as in the case of modern Israel).

We Know the Way could be the anthem for the Alt-Right with some minor modifications. And - my quibbles with Hamilton as "cultural appropriation" aside - Lin-Manuel Miranda is a musical genius and the whole soundtrack is fantastic.

@AnonActually, that was the only decent song in the movie, and it's fairly short and repetitive. The movie lacked consistent humor and was a mixed bag of pro-feminist propaganda and worship of non-white people/culture. The animation was quite good though, especially the water effects. The Rock has a decent singing voice.

A white renaissance is the worst nightmare of the left. A veritable Freddie Kruger coming to get them.

We are, and have been, in a state of war with casualties, in terms of demographic replacement, counted in the hundreds of millions just since WW II -- but far worse than that is the war's dysgenic selectivity against "who we are". The longer this goes on, the more this war will convert from fraud to force. Converting from fraud to force will mitigate the dysgenics to some degree, but it will not stop the perpetual state of war. To end the perpetual state of war, and to win decisively, a formal declaration with a carefully conceived, concise and incisive end is necessary.

I'll push back against that. There is no "you can't do it because you're a girl" message Moana has to overcome. She is the story's heroine, but it's a movie aimed at girls.

And she's not a warrior--that role is clearly Maui's. After being stranded alone on an island for years, Maui's fighting ability has atrophied. Message -- Men have to work at being men, or they start to lose the ability to be men.

and worship of non-white people/culture

There is only one ethnic/racial group portrayed in the movie. They are sympathetic but clearly not perfect. This doesn't strike me as worshipful.

AE, as I saw it, the movie is explicitly matriarchal in that the denouement openly rejects the masculine approach (winning by battle) in favor of the feminine approach (discerning the deeper social construct and hugging away the conflict...which was a result of masculine stupidity all along.)

Does this mean that the movie is subversive? No more than everything else, IMO.

Partition would mean Rivers of Blood....on the Journey back to unified government on this Continent. Geography demands this of whoever wins in North America...and by no means does this have to be White Americans. Just winners.

The map does not support partition, nor the nature of our present enemies or man at large.Nor those among us who are men. As opposed to forever surrendering cities, neighborhoods, states as well as their children's innocence, bathrooms and anything else to avoid violence.

I'm not sure what Hillary and the neocons have to do with this. At any right, the alt-right wants to pull back the American empire not because they're ideologues that believe in universal sovereignty for other peoples or something, which is just another version of universal human rights.

I never said anything about the alt-right "wanting to conquer or subjugate non-whites." Aside from Spencer, I wouldn't say any of those you list would be very representative of the alt-right. Vox Day was a libertarian who attached himself to the alt-right label after it became popular and now purports to be an alt-right intellectual leader among his coterie of readers. He had nothing to do with the intellectual and cultural background of the alt-right. He was mostly sperging about free market economics and squabbles in the sci-fi publishing world. Sailer and Derby are older guys from the conservative/paleocon sphere. Spencer is really the only among them that could be considered genuinely representative considering his intellectual background and career as an activist. Spencer doesn't write much and is mainly focused on activism, but he stresses that it's not ideological isolationism or some concern for universal rights to sovereignty, which are fundamentally liberal ideas, that shape the alt-right's views.

Because together they represent 80%+ of the political class. They are the ones the Alt Right is politically fighting against, as are other dissident movements like libertarians and some portion of serious Sanders' socialist types. This uniparty leviathan is much less tolerant of separate countries for separate peoples pursuing separate destinies.

Who are your Alt Right thought leaders who are less amenable to letting Pacific Islanders be Pacific Islanders in the Pacific Rim than the current political class is?

A lot of people on the Alt Right, like Vox Day, come from libertarianism. Hans Hermann Hoppe, probably the 'greatest' living libertarian thinker, recently gave a talk on the Alt Right. He and Jeff Deist, head of the Mises Institute, understand how libertarinism is hemorrhaging supporters to the Alt Right. These former libertarians are attracted to NAP and the idea of self-determination, but see the utter lack of viability for libertarianism to exist in an increasingly non-white world.

Sheesh, guys, what do you expect from Disney in The Current Year? It's not 1985, Toto we're not Kansas.

Crime rates were MUCH higher in the 1970's-1990's; for all the lack of collective violence (e.g. war) in those decades, Boomers and X-ers cut an extremely red swathe through their young personal lives. Violence just was back then; might as well use it to your advantage. Fun fact: it was common back then to say that martial arts shouldn't be used for cowardly or exploitive ends. But rarely if ever did we hear Ghandi type stuff about avoidance of confrontations. There were so many muggers, rapists, abusers, and bullies that they would find you no matter how hard you tried to avoid them. Better be limber or well-armed.....

Overt pushing of the most brain dead feminist themes (e.g., men aren't needed or necessary, or masculinity is inherently exploitive) was DOA in the 80's, what with the decade producing a now notorious overdose of (sometimes chemically enhanced) rugged male bodies and attitudes. While the 60's and (earlier...) 70's promoted a decided softness and gentleness, a glow about peace and love (that ignored spreading disease epidemics, perverts run amok, and lover quarrels), people utterly rejected this in the 80's, and pop culture took on an very violent and angular quality.

Does anyone doubt that the U.S. will break up into various ethno states (some mixed)?

The US will break up, but not into various ethnostates (unless you count white ethnostates). The vast majority of the others will Go Back to their homelands without being forced, because they have no blood in this soil. The rest will be politely removed.

A lot of people on the Alt Right, like Vox Day, come from libertarianism

Discounting the Fake Right, I haven’t heard of anyone who didn’t. And even the paleocons, AmRens, VDAREs, etc. even if not nominal libertarians, say pretty much all the same things when pressed on the question, though they don’t go full anacap.

As an anacap, I knew about Sailer and AmRen and VDARE long before I discovered Vox and his historical analysis of mass immigration (or his takedown of free trade) and I spent all my time arguing with other libertarians about how to harmonize the NAP theory with the racial realities. (Yeah, that went over like a lead balloon.)

understand how libertarinism is hemorrhaging supporters to the Alt Right

If only they could figure how to diversify the movement and appeal to the non-white males. WAIT SENPAI NO—

As for Donnie Trump, he seems to be a natural for politics and I'm sure we're only going to be hearing more of him as time goes on. Also, it's interesting that in the early going, Trump's kids got a lot of shit, but lately it seems like in the MSM and liberalsphere we've gone back to the traditional practice of leaving non-spouse family members of the president basically alone.

Donnie was born in the late 70's, and it seems like us people born from about 1976-1986 are in kind of a sweet spot, if you'll forgive the back patting. We didn't get scarred by the goofy and perverted 1970's like Boomers and early X-ers did, we went to college after the 1991-1992 peak (for it's time) in shit-lib PC, and we are (mostly) too old to be greatly affected by the PC 2010's. Compare this to how the grunge generation (those born in the late 60's and early 70's) became such pussies after the early 90's, or how those born in the late 80's and early 90's are also going to be annoying self-righteous scolds their whole lives thanks to being an impressionable age during Obama's 2nd term and Trump's election.

Coming of age when people are relaxed does wonders for your likability and sense of humor.

Cool people: those born in:- the late 20's and 30's- the late 50's and early 60's- the late 70's and early 80's

Pretentious scolds are born in:- the 1940's and early 50's- the late 60's and early 70's- the late 80's and early 90's

DissidentRight said: Discounting the Fake Right, I haven’t heard of anyone who didn’t. And even the paleocons, AmRens, VDAREs, etc. even if not nominal libertarians, say pretty much all the same things when pressed on the question, though they don’t go full anacap.

As an anacap, I knew about Sailer and AmRen and VDARE long before I discovered Vox and his historical analysis of mass immigration (or his takedown of free trade) and I spent all my time arguing with other libertarians about how to harmonize the NAP theory with the racial realities. (Yeah, that went over like a lead balloon.)

Preach, brother.

Poles of ideology are other-worldly, in that they posit a static endpoint that in principle conflicts with the dynamic reality of life.

Positing a human social system that lacks institutionalized monopoly is the same as positing humans who lack impulsiveness or markets without booms & busts. What is the sine wave movement of human societies between high and low levels of relative liberty but the same movement of markets between feast and famine? It was connecting these phenomena that killed the anacap inside.

The best screed ever penned about personal/private gun ownership was published in 1993, right around the recent-history peak in violent crime. https://jim.com/cowards.htm

Timing is everything.

(Of course, this makes me wonder what is coming, given all the "published scholarship" supporting leftist dogma that in my view is quite literally behavioral aberration (AKA mental illness) arising from cumulative genetic mutations expressing in the brain, such that what passes for "normal" behavior is immiscible with real world survival (i.e., behaviors that if followed on a large scale literally result in the dying off of the entire population.)

I constantly worry that the Zombie Apocalypse fiction narrative is popular because it is art foreshadowing life.

@ AE: Poles of ideology are other-worldly, in that they posit a static endpoint that in principle conflicts with the dynamic reality of life.

Yes, this. When it finally dawned on me that not even a world of nation-states with mutual non-aggression pacts represented a stable system, because generational, alpha-beta, and male-female discontinuities (to say nothing of…ehem…original sin) make long-term system stability inherently impossible, it was very relieving.

What is the sine wave movement of human societies between high and low levels of relative liberty but the same movement of markets between feast and famine? It was connecting these phenomena that killed the anacap inside.

Indeed. Though it seems to me that anacap is a uniquely useful frame of reference, since it provides simple, universal and totally unambiguous language/concepts. So I can say, “We should violate the NAP in circumstances A, B, and C for reasons X, Y, and Z” and everyone knows exactly what I mean.

@ dc.sunsets: I constantly worry that the Zombie Apocalypse fiction narrative is popular because it is art foreshadowing life.

Fortunately our zombies 1) know fear, 2) can be stopped with body shots, and 3) become non-threatening after a week or so of starvation.

I dunno what the hell most of you guys are talking about, but WRT gun politics, it was in the 1990's that people started losing their shit about it, much as they did with "violent" media, contact sports, rampant Neo-Nazi activity (arising from a handful of redneck losers beating POC up and a few right wing terrorists) and indeed anything smacking of racism (up to and including Indian sports nicknames).

It's not so much that I take sides in these arguments as much as I get tired of hysterical people on either side. This early 1990's hysteria gradually petered out, as I recall that by the time I was in 6-7th grade in '97-'98 most kids were making fun of douchey activists and scolds. Recall also that abortion clinic bombings were a big deal in the 90's, as early 90's college kids registered greater approval of "family planning" than they had before or since (keep in mind that college kids in the early 90's were born in the earlier 70's, so we're talking about an annoying activist cohort).

The zombie culture meme arises from how cynical most people are, and also how after 25 years of declining crime and violence, everybody is insecure about their toughness and likes to fantasize themselves as badasses roaming around a dangerous wasteland. Back in the 1950's, we'd had 20+ years of declining crime, but people felt optimistic and accomplished, so we didn't get survivalist porn. One of the most facile things about this survivalist crap is that it never talks about how a loss of modernity would result in people going back to areas with navigable and useful water ways and rich soil. The vast majority of the Western US would be nearly worthless, just as it was in America's first couple hundred years.

Without modern transport and farming tech, and without air conditioning, America's northeastern quadrant would regain the importance it had prior to WW2 ending. Remember that Trump got hurt in the Western US because outside of California, there are few traditional and venerable small-mid sized American towns in the West. Much of the American West's population, esp. outside of California, is jammed into a series of urban areas and their suburbs. Whereas here in Eastern Minnesota, I've lived my whole life near Anoka, a classic American mid-size city on the Mississippi founded in 1844 and inhabited ever since ("Ghost towns" largely do not exist near the Mississippi and East of the river since the Eastern US' towns and cities were generally founded based on their location near important water ways.

Indeed. I forget what it was called, but there was some sort of organization between libertarians and paleoconservatives in the 90s that split up over an irreconcilable falling out over trade. And trade is the only big barrier (heh) now between the right-libertarians of the Hoppe/Woods/Rockwell/Mises Institute stripe and the Alt Right.

Has Vox Day done a post tracking the convergence of the modern libertarian movement? He probably just doesn't care. This last election was a real opportunity for Libertarian party to become something, but instead they put forward a weird SJW in favor of lower taxes in the form of Gary Johnson and paired him up with Bill Weld--wtf!?--in an attempt to crack 5%, which they of course didn't manage to do.

There will be more libertarian refugees heading our way in the coming years. We will do well to welcome them.

Sheesh, guys, what do you expect from Disney in The Current Year? It's not 1985, Toto we're not Kansas.

Heh, yes, implicit in the 'review' is that it is, in fact, The Current Year. Moana is no subversive alt right work, but in the pop culture realm, it's not bad. It offers some respectable themes, anyway.

Has Vox Day done a post tracking the convergence of the modern libertarian movement? He probably just doesn't care.

Haha, not that I recall.

There will be more libertarian refugees heading our way in the coming years. We will do well to welcome them.

Yep!

I forget what it was called, but there was some sort of organization between libertarians and paleoconservatives in the 90s that split up over an irreconcilable falling out over trade.

I might be too young to know about that. Anyway I was a pretty basic-bitch cuckservative prior to ~2009. There was a time when I thought NR was edgy.

And trade is the only big barrier (heh) now between the right-libertarians of the Hoppe/Woods/Rockwell/Mises Institute stripe and the Alt Right.

True, although I’m pretty sure that if you extend the Hoppe viewpoint, there is nothing preventing your covenant-community from using the usual measures to ‘essentially’ regulate trade. I point out that as long as information flows freely across national borders, all developments in economic efficiency will flow across borders too, even if trade is 100% banned. Anyway, I cannot see what the actual difference is between a “State” and a “body to which a collection of private landowners have voluntarily sold off certain property rights, such as the right to sell land to non-members or non-posterity”. Sometimes I get the feeling that Hoppe is laying the groundwork for constitutional feudalism.

I feel like a thousand yard stare veteran of the internet era in our discourse, as I read all kinds of whacked out crap in my impressionable years which coincided with easy internet access in the very late 90's and 2000's. Stumbling on the phrase "eco-fascism" was a feather in my cap.

Keep in mind also that the late 90's and 2000's were a pretty "free" time, pretty relaxed and open, so I think a lot of young people back then fooled around with stuff but never took a lot of it all that seriously, not as seriously as the older generations who produced a lot of the content did. I was curious and learning stuff, not having a clue about how to really turn it into some kind of cause or lifestyle, which seemed boring and pretentious anyway.

The whole thing of ideologues arguing is not something I ever wanted to do first hand, even though I certainly read about a lot of ideological battles.

I never was into the nerdy abstract right wing economics crap, which I heard was bogus from neo-nazis/paleos/liberals and my own common sense. I mean, at least the barbaric right seemed cool, as did the then more authentic Left wing who didn't preach like family values conservatives and wanted to afflict the comfortable set. The Left has become a total joke in the Obama era, and that's why guys like me and Agnostic ended up getting caught up the Trumpenreich; usually not ones to join or get excited, esp. after the disasters of the Bush and Obama era in which there was no effective opposition, but hey it seemed like with Trump something was building that just might piss off a few of the people who needed to be sweating.

Stopping off-shoring, soaking the rich, rebuilding unions, discouraging immigration, yuppies, and carpetbaggers should all come first. If we want the 1950's back, we've got a lot more to do than just shutting down the gay bars.

But hey, The Stupid Party in the 1970's-2000's always simultaneously praised the cultural mid-century while claiming that FDR ruined everything FOREVER, and also that the labor movement was a hotbed of commie agiation, so what should I expect?

And who most opposed NAFTA and high immigration levels in the 1970's-early 1990's? Democrats and their labor constituency. Yeah, that's what I thought. Carter, Reagan, and esp. Bill Clinton did more than their fair share to sell American workers out. Where was the stupid party? Protesting abortion clinics, and saying that The Market would fix everything if we just got the government out of the way.

A lot of the same economic arguments that are made in favor of cheap immigrant labor can (and were) made in favor of slave labor. In one case, Chamber-of-Commerce types are paying subsistence wages. In the other, actual subsistence. Not much difference beyond that.

I actually don't mind the semi-rational arguments for cultural appropriation. When applied logically and fairly, then it would bar non-whites from assimilating our culture, language, values, and make them more alien and thereby create a further divide which helps preserve our people and pushes us towards the ideal of an ethnostate. Aren't you tired of hearing nigger music with virtually EVERYTHING? Yeah, Jews and whites, stop stealing that nigger music already.

Of course, we know all these types of arguments are really just attacks against whites. That's the real agenda: to hate, admonish and control white people for whatever nonsense they can dream up. Now they're trying to tell white girls they can't dress us as white princesses because it celebrates white beauty. Now just who the hell are they to set our own standards for us? They can fuck off. You set your own standards for your people and we'll take care of ours.

With these cartoons you and your family may like them because after all they're created by whites so they have white sensibilities even if they have non-white characters. It's a big deception actually, similar to anthropomorphism, because we project our thoughts and emotions on other races that do not actually think and behave that way. This is a type of cultural white supremacy, often coming from Christians, that is common today and I support non-white efforts to resist it.

Yeah, as an astute commenter mentioned above, with some help from a white Hispanic, the movie was dreamed up and produced by a bunch of whites--mostly guys because it's animation and disproportionately Jews--so it is a cultural appropriation in itself.