I wish more people on Veeky Forums in general were like you. It costs literally nothing to admit you were wrong on anonymous Thai oil market.

10 months ago

Ignoramus

Suez Crisis, Six Days War and Yom Kippur War.

10 months ago

Dreamworx

I didn't do any math really, I just said that there weren't even 10 fascist states in existence, implying that fascism lasted too short to derive any rules about interaction of fascist states, and furthermore some of these existed too far away from each other.

Do wars of decolonization not count? No. War of 1812UK wasn't a democratic republic. Like 5% of people had the right to vote. Mexican-American WarMexico was a dictatorship, correct me if I'm wrong. French invasion of Rome, 1849Wasn't France a dictatorship too? Spanish-American WarColonial war, and Spain wasn't a democratic republic. Boer WarsPerhaps. Turkish invasion of CyprusNope. It was a sort of proxy conflict with Greece, which was ruled by military junta. Pakistani-Indian conflictsPerhaps.

So two examples. Though Pakistan is hardly ''democratic'' society, they have a longer history of military dictatorship.

10 months ago

PurpleCharger

You responded to a question about 10 with a vague answer about 10. That's not a light implication.

10 months ago

New_Cliche

I apologize, that wasn't my intention.

10 months ago

Nojokur

war of 1812 athens lands on sicilly boer wars american invasion of phillipines

10 months ago

Fried_Sushi

Name ten battles over the Isonzo River.

10 months ago

Nude_Bikergirl

American Civil War?

10 months ago

Lord_Tryzalot

war of 1812 "No!"athens lands on sicilly Eh, not really modern republics, but sure, okay. boer warsAs I said above, that could qualify. american invasion of phillipinesIt wasn't invasion, more like fighting insurrection in the aftermath of Spanish-American War, and Americans did later grant them wide autonomy and finally independence.

10 months ago

StrangeWizard

-Western (Non Soviet) Allies in theory were at war with Finland during WW2.-Quasi War with Revolutionary France.-Punic Wars and other ancient wars.

It's disingenuous and cheap as hell to be puritanical about definitions when it challenges your hypothesis and then exceedingly liberal and generous about definitions when it supports it. Establish a single, simple and direct definition of what constitutes a democracy. You are not allowed to hem and haw about what constitutes a democracy and judge it on a case by case basis because you will be partisan and judge it only when it supports your hypothesis.

There's no "That could qualify" or "perhaps". Either it does constitute a violation of democratic peace or it does not.

Boer War does 100%. Orange Free State was a republic. UK was a republic. There were disenfranchised voters aplenty, but they are both republics. War of 1812 does 100%. Same deal. You cannot claim constitutional monarchies are not a democracy one moment and then use the example of peace between constitutional monarchies as evidence for democratic peace.

There is no factor in democratic peace theory that says colonial wars don't count, that's just your own opinion.

10 months ago

Sir_Gallonhead

I'm puritanical for claiming that a country where like 5% of people have the right to vote is not a democracy and almost certainly wasn't a republic? Boer War does 100%Okay, I agree. By that point a lot of people could vote in UK. There is no factor in democratic peace theory that says colonial wars don't countThey don't count because ''freedom fighters'' obviously aren't an established democratic republic, even if they claim to fight for that. Admit it, there has been incredibly few wars between democratic republics, even though large number of states were democratic republics in the last two centuries.

10 months ago

Skullbone

Spanish-American War therefore falls under democratic peace theory. Don't bullshit around with "Oh but constitutional monarchies don't count" - there is no presence of that qualifier in scholarly definitions of democratic peace theory. As the link notes, various folks have various definitions on how much of the adult male populace should be able to vote for it to count as a democracy. You can argue liberal peace theory, but that's not democratic peace theory. Of the listed scholars in the link only Rummel demands liberalism. The other researchers do not require a democracy be liberal in the sense of freedom of speech, religion and economics.

4375768

You claimedSpanish-American WarColonial war, and Spain wasn't a democratic republic.

It was not a colonial war. It was a war between Spain (republic) and USA (republic) with rebels siding with the USA. It had an established democratic republic opposing an established democratic republic.

And yes, this is not to say the theory is false. It's as close to a physical law in foreign affairs as exists. It's just not perfect.

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