I too wish him well but he just didn't relate to college kids, didn't motivate and didn't teach fundamentals as thiev pointed out. His teams were very undisciplined, they found a way to lose a lot of games they dominated the stats in, and he consistently took top 10 recruiting classes and coached them to 4, 5, 6 loss seasons.

Bring us ND fans a real college football coach for Christmas please. I would take Brian Kelly at Cincy, Stoops, but would really like to see Gary Patterson from TCU bring some defense to South Bend.

I think it's funny how Stoops' name was thrown in the hat (he publicly stated that he was confused as to why the media would suggest his name). Even if he were to be offered the position for some ungodly amount of money, I would imagine OU will just match it.

Not to mention he is sitting pretty good where he is at right now.

I think Notre Dame will be better off getting a pro-style offensive coach to come in. At least he won't have to recruit players to fit a system and he might even convince Weis's recruits to hang around. Last thing they need is some sort of Rich Rod situation or the Irish can get ready of another two to three years of mediocrity.

Weis' 2007 season (he went 3-9) was a direct reflection of Ty's recruiting (or lack thereof).

Well, I am not going to go dig up the exact numbers, but ND only had about 6 scholarship O-Linemen in 2006 and I remember the D-Line being in a much worse position. He had gone 2 full seasons without recruiting a single linemen on either side of the ball!

In 2005 and 2006 as our much larger upper classes graduated, we were left with something like 10 players under the scholarship maximum.

CW has at the very least done three things:
* replenished talent, showing that ND can recruit on an elite level
* shown tremendous love towards the university
* worked TIRELESSLY. He gave it his all.

Unfortunately, he didn't have a complete deck of cards when he got here.

I think it's funny how Stoops' name was thrown in the hat (he publicly stated that he was confused as to why the media would suggest his name). Even if he were to be offered the position for some ungodly amount of money, I would imagine OU will just match it.

Not to mention he is sitting pretty good where he is at right now.

I think Notre Dame will be better off getting a pro-style offensive coach to come in. At least he won't have to recruit players to fit a system and he might even convince Weis's recruits to hang around. Last thing they need is some sort of Rich Rod situation or the Irish can get ready of another two to three years of mediocrity.

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Re-read the Stoop comments -- they were pure coach speak. He was very specific in what he said, but you can throw it all out of the window because of the word "intend".

What you intend to do has nothing to do with what you will in fact do.

He could have just as easily said, I will NOT coach at ND next season. or I will be coach at OK next season.... but he decided to use coachspeak, "I intend to be the coach next season"

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I think Stoops has sort of plateaud at OU and would seriously consider coming to ND. I however would rather see Gary Patterson from TCU or Brian Kelly from Cincy come build their own thing in South Bend.

No doubt Stoops would be a big upgrade and would automatically keep us in the top 10 in recruiting and maybe make us better at recruiting. What I don't like about Stoops is I think there would immediately be comparisons to how he did at OU, everyone would expect him to win 10 games right away and things could get ugly quick. A guy like Patterson or Kelly comes in after some down years and they will have a couple years to shape the program before the pressure would get really ramped up.

If Stoops does go to ND and Patterson to OU, I fear for the Big 12. I think if Patterson had the talent of OU on his side he would be unstoppable. As far as Charlie Weis goes, I agree with the X's and O's portion, he's good with that. That's good for the NFL, but I think college kids are a whole other deal compared to NFL players. He just couldn't get the talent out of his guys IMO. I got these figures from Rivals.com.

I think a lot of people love to make excuses for Weis. He was a good NFL offensive co-ordinator. He got too cute at times when I watched Notre Dame and he never put together a defense. People love to bash Ty but his record was the same as Weis. And Weis' best years were with Ty's players. He had five years and was 6-6 his last year. No excuses.

A lot of people love to say Weis recruited so much better. I don't follow recruiting closely but I do know recruiting classes are often over hyped. Some kids get ranked higher just because a few big schools are looking at them. Doesn't mean they are going to be great. How they turn out is what matters. And this article criticizes some of Weis recruiting methods: http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/charlie-weis-as-great-recruiter-not-all-agree