I like the Lumia 920, except its music management tool frustrates me. A lot of my songs get thrown into the "Untitled Album, Untitled Artist" category. I'm going to cringe if I actually have to edit the MP3 tags. WP8 (at least the Lumia 920) doesn't come with a standalone file manager. I can drag and drop from my PC, but Microsoft seems to want to make an iTunes-type setup for these phones. Ewwww! I didn't have this problem with any of my Androids. Hmmmm..... If I can figure out a workaround I will let the WP8 users here know.

Looks like my best bet might be to use Windows Media Player and drag files that are to be synced. Ugh! So iTunes-like mentality. At least the music can play without going through iTunes. It just won't get organized. With Android you can drag and drop the music without having to setup a collection. Wake up Microsoft!

Even an old blackberry has better music/playlist management than WP8 and Apple. With Blackberry I could create playlists directly in hand based on so many variables. I can't do that with Apple at all or with the apps Ive bought.

Actually, I'd quite like to get you started on NFC if you have a moment. It can be unrelated to the iPhone

I'm in the UK, and NFC is far from adopted over here. We're talking miles off. A lot of the scepticism focuses around the fact that the back end is expensive for the retailer to install. I've read a number of articles speculating that bluetooth may be a more likely option, should the consumer decide NFC is required (there are plenty of arguments that it really isn't that much quicker than chip-and-pin).

Assuming you live elsewhere, has it actually become commonplace? And if so, what percentage of shops have the technology in place? (just a rough estimate based on your own experience will do me)

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I have the S3, and love it. Have used NFC(google wallet) to pay for a few things, just to try it out. Its cool, but it doesn't really save any time. Its quicker to just swipe my credit card. Most retailers(I'm in the usa) still don't support the format yet. It strikes me as one of those "solutions" to a problem that doesn't really exist. I'm just referring to using NFC to pay for purchases. Can't comment on its other uses, sharing files, etc...

I used NFC a few times with someone I know who also has an S3 and I thought it was a cool feature but it's not something I'd use all the time. It's a nice feature to have though. I've never used Google Wallet. I'm waiting for the premium suite upgrade for the S3.

I was an epic poster on Crackberry for many years. In early 2010 well before RIM was having issues and I still hated the iPhone I predicted RIM would be the next Palm by Q4 2013. People lambasted me and I even got myself banned for epic trollery accusations.

The funny thing is, is anyone can destroy apple and Samsung with a better product.

Imagine if this new BB London had full blown photoshop.

Imagine if it had a music player that wasn't a complete POS.

Imagine if it had a multi LED thin panel notification bar at the top that you could customize with colors and patterns for different communication events.

Imagjne if it had a keyboard that actually worked without errors. Every time.

Imagine if it had all my finance apps.

Imagine if it had a seamless backup solution that was reliable and more portable.

Imagine if it had a robust VPN platform for corporate computing.

Imagine if it could massage your lower back or stomach and tell you everyday that you are the GOAT and people LOVE you.

I would buy it in a second.

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I loved my humble Blackberry Curve. It's app range sucked, it had a stupidly small screen and it was just a 2G phone with a physical keyboard, but typing anything on it was just so much clickety-clickety fun. I had it unlocked and used it on a recent trip from several Asian countries. Texting is big in India, and I got a lot of organizational stuff done just on the phone, just by texting the people involved and rarely even speaking with them. Still so much fun, and usable where my then-CDMA-only Verizon smartphone was as good as a brick.

Also, as far as call quality goes, that was the best phone I've ever used. Somewhere along the way, the smartphone manufacturers forgot that these were "phones". I really hope that RIM comes up with something good. It is an uphill battle and very difficult to compete with Apple and Android, but stranger things have happened.

Hmmm. I actually typed on an iphone 4 and iphone 5 keyboard and it seemed accurate to me, in terms of error correction and stuff. True, it just cannot mimick the tactile feedback of a physical qwerty, but you and I are old ; the teenagers of today probably don't miss it.

Coming from android keyboards, I have to admit that Apple did a good job of optimizing the key sizes, and the error correction for English. Typing in other languages may be harder (e.g., typing Hindi in English, or typing Japanese Romaji in English lettering). That is one of the reasons that I prefer Swype. It learns idiosyncratic spellings and nicknames really easily.

I loved my humble Blackberry Curve. It's app range sucked, it had a stupidly small screen and it was just a 2G phone with a physical keyboard, but typing anything on it was just so much clickety-clickety fun. I had it unlocked and used it on a recent trip from several Asian countries. Texting is big in India, and I got a lot of organizational stuff done just on the phone, just by texting the people involved and rarely even speaking with them. Still so much fun, and usable where my then-CDMA-only Verizon smartphone was as good as a brick.

Also, as far as call quality goes, that was the best phone I've ever used. Somewhere along the way, the smartphone manufacturers forgot that these were "phones". I really hope that RIM comes up with something good. It is an uphill battle and very difficult to compete with Apple and Android, but stranger things have happened.

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I remember reading on a review from cnet that the Lumia 920 has outstanding call quality. So maybe check into that. The camera is supposed to be pretty good too. If you can bare using Windows OS it could be promising.

Lots of people are unhappy with the Lumia 920 according to WP8 boards I monitor. If it had better reviews I would have bought one by now. So far I am unconvinced of its GPOATness.

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I kind of miss having the control over the phone I get with an Android (i.e. file browser to arrange files as I see fit, greater selection of apps, being able to download music and videos from a DLNA server, no available app to view MS Access database tables). The Lumia 920 is a good phone, but it has a couple of quirks I don't get with any of the Androids I've used. Part of it might have to do with the WP8 platform, but hearing pops and noise on some of my MP3s irritates me. Especially when these same files I didn't experience an issue with my other phones (Blackberry Curve/Bold, Android 1.x/2.x/4.x), including non-smartphones. Enabling "Dolby Headphone playback" might have fixed that MP3 issue, but I'm sure most users in this situation would not have figured that out.

The battery life is pretty good and from a few of the photos I took the quality is good. It's not as light or as "sexy" as the GS 3, but I'll wait and see how Nokia and M$ further improve this platform.

> why does Verizon rip people off by charging for dataplan ? "2
> MB is more than enough for you", Rep said. That is BS. Normally
> person needs about 4 MB. but Noooo, they charge like crazy for
> that.

Data requirements vary widely.

I use about 300 MB/month. I have WiFi in the places where I spend most of my time. The 300 MB that I use is for email, hotspot for my laptop, looking at traffic reports and checking stocks on the road.

> why does Verizon rip people off by charging for dataplan ? "2
> MB is more than enough for you", Rep said. That is BS. Normally
> person needs about 4 MB. but Noooo, they charge like crazy for
> that.

Data requirements vary widely.

I use about 300 MB/month. I have WiFi in the places where I spend most of my time. The 300 MB that I use is for email, hotspot for my laptop, looking at traffic reports and checking stocks on the road.

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I'm on a 300MB plan. I can get away with that since I have wifi access at work and at home. I turn off data connection. With the Lumia 920 I'm concerned about the data it gets from the live tiles.

Or just turn the **** off. Or, if you're an innovator like me, I'd make use of the decade-old feature that's been around cell phones since the beginning. It's call "silent" mode.

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Slight difference though. Family/friends you need to get a hold of you can call twice and it will ring. So there are filters built in. You can silence the iphone with the flick of a switch on the side, so this does a little more.

why does Verizon rip people off by charging for dataplan ? "2 MB is more than enough for you", Rep said. That is BS. Normally person needs about 4 MB. but Noooo, they charge like crazy for that.

T-Mobile, data is FREE.

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I have T-Mobile. I'm saving $20/ month with their unlimited data vs what I was paying for 3 GB of data with AT&T. They say their "4G" data is unlimited but it's not, they lie. They cap your data at 99,999GB/ month. :lol:

Slight difference though. Family/friends you need to get a hold of you can call twice and it will ring. So there are filters built in. You can silence the iphone with the flick of a switch on the side, so this does a little more.

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Alright... so then again, Android's had that feature for how long now?

Alright... so then again, Android's had that feature for how long now?

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I have no idea, I never saw that exact feature in the OS. I don't miss android one bit. Enjoy it. Personally, I made a 3 year run with them and I am done. Not worth arguing about, I was just bringing up what the feature actually does.

I thought the same at first, but it is a lot faster to select DND and not have to volume down, vibrate off and then check your phone for an important call. It's just an easy feature to use that I like. It is not a game changer, but the phone is just so fast and responsive and great on my battery that I have no complaints or desires to jailbreak/root.

I have a Lifeproof for my 4S, and it's been great. However, as JoelDali says, when they bring out a new product they seem to suffer a whole host of issues. 'Teething problems' barely scratches the surface. They do have a good warranty service (mine was replaced twice), which is just as well. If you're patient enough, it can be worth it if you get a good one.

One case I'm intrigued by is the Zagg InvisibleShield. Anyone tried that?

I have no idea, I never saw that exact feature in the OS. I don't miss android one bit. Enjoy it. Personally, I made a 3 year run with them and I am done. Not worth arguing about, I was just bringing up what the feature actually does.

I thought the same at first, but it is a lot faster to select DND and not have to volume down, vibrate off and then check your phone for an important call. It's just an easy feature to use that I like. It is not a game changer, but the phone is just so fast and responsive and great on my battery that I have no complaints or desires to jailbreak/root.

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You should try the Snap Dragon quad core processors. That's speed right there.

I hated the iOS. I hated how I had to go through menus and sub-menus just to turn on/off my wifi and bluetooth.

I have a Lifeproof for my 4S, and it's been great. However, as JoelDali says, when they bring out a new product they seem to suffer a whole host of issues. 'Teething problems' barely scratches the surface. They do have a good warranty service (mine was replaced twice), which is just as well. If you're patient enough, it can be worth it if you get a good one.

One case I'm intrigued by is the Zagg InvisibleShield. Anyone tried that?

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Is that just the front screen protector or an actual case? I tried the screen protector and could not get it on. Got all crumpled up on me so I took it back to the store and got my $30 back.

You should try the Snap Dragon quad core processors. That's speed right there.

I hated the iOS. I hated how I had to go through menus and sub-menus just to turn on/off my wifi and bluetooth.

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I just hate the Android OS. My last Evo was purchased in June of 12 and had the snapdragon plus I rooted it and cleaned out bloatware. But my i5 is still faster and more responsive. Just my experience.

Is that just the front screen protector or an actual case? I tried the screen protector and could not get it on. Got all crumpled up on me so I took it back to the store and got my $30 back.

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Front and back screen protector, and possibly sides too. I like the idea of something as minimal as a screen protector being able to resist being hit by a hammer. I'll put you in the 'would not recommend' bracket.

I'm not actually looking for a new case, just curious. I'll be sticking with my Lifeproof until my next phone, which won't be until 4G rolls properly in the UK. Could be a while.

I have T-Mobile. I'm saving $20/ month with their unlimited data vs what I was paying for 3 GB of data with AT&T. They say their "4G" data is unlimited but it's not, they lie. They cap your data at 99,999GB/ month. :lol:

I'm on T mobile as well, but I have an unlocked Iphone 4s so absolutely no data for me currently. They are reframing their 3G/4G network to 1700 Mhz to accommodate iphone users. It has not been done in my area so I get no data except Edge, which is horrible. Hopefully they set it up quickly.

I'm on T mobile as well, but I have an unlocked Iphone 4s so absolutely no data for me currently. They are reframing their 3G/4G network to 1700 Mhz to accommodate iphone users. It has not been done in my area so I get no data except Edge, which is horrible. Hopefully they set it up quickly.

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The new T-Mo network is done in my area and their 3G speeds are still hit and miss. Hoping that once they start carrying the iphone they will really be able to do something to kick in the speeds that my GS3 gets.

I use the zagg invisashield hd on my s3 and it works well. So far after around 4 or 5 months with the s3 I haven't encountered any problems whatsover. Actually the jellybean update made some nice improvements to the speed and fluidity to the os. If I waited longer before purchasing, I most likely would have went with the Note 2. I like both Android and ios about the same; ive always had a sweet spot with Apple. I might very well switch back to the iphone if they release a bigger screen version down the road, who knows.