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Saturday, September 10, 2016

Jill Stein Goes for the Crackpot Vote

The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth.
Led by the families of those who died on 9/11, the American people
wanted—and deserved—a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the
attacks. The Bush administration initially said an inquiry was
unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and
their methods and motives were clear.
It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that Harper's Magazine
described it as "whitewash as public service"—a document that "defrauds
the nation." The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission wrote a book just two
years after the final commission report, saying, "We were set up to
fail." The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access
to relevant classified information.

The usual misreading of what Kean and Hamilton really said:

"Both of us were aware of grumbling around Washington that the 9/11
Commission was doomed--if not designed--to fail: the commission would
splinter down partisan lines; lose its credibility by leaking classified
information; be denied the necessary access to do its job; or alienate
the 9/11 families who had fought on behalf of its creation. What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and
circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission
over the coming twenty months to enable our success."

From what I have seen, the Rebunkers seem to be on Trump's side; probably because he's been friendly with Alex Jones. I suspect that this will help Stein get Jon Gold's support.

31 Comments:

In another sad reminder from that day, the FBI apparently was allowed to release the gag order on certain portions of the cockpit voice recorder, as they play clips of it where you can hear Jarrah's messages a little bit clearer, as well as some voiceless smashing and struggling noises.

Also, as everyone probably noticed, Brian Good acknowledged in the last thread that I've pwn3d him so badly that he won't spam these posts anymore for fear of me humiliating him the same way Willie Rodriguez humiliated him here years ago.

Not that this decision by Brian to admit defeat changes anything. Brian still a liar and lunatic, the widows still have no questions, "Meatball on a Fork" is still not published in a journal of engineering, Willie Rodriguez is still a hero, and the truth movement is still pining for the fjords.

On another note, has anyone else noticed the similarities between Donald Trump and Brian? Besides the hideous haircuts, there's also the blatant misogyny and racism, the ridiculous claims about their accomplishments (Trump isn't a real estate developer, he's a reality TV clown who mostly squandered his father's fortune, Brian isn't a researcher, he's a failed janitor who lives with his parents), the pathological lies, and the inability to let a perceived slight go. I guess it's the narcissistic personality disorder that some figured Brian was dealing with years ago. It's striking how the same personality traits appear in two very different people with the same mental illness.

The two top 9/11 Commissioners ADMITTED suppression and downplaying of prime motive for the attack: SEE VIDEO They ADMIT the concern was protecting the foreign policy, you can compare the staff statements and testimony to what finally made it into the 9/11 Report and see how there are several examples of omitting "Israel" as motive. LOOK HERE

There are still PDBs that haven’t been released! Why haven’t all of the PDBs been released? We know that Bush received warnings yet what did he do? What actions did Bush take? From what we have learned since then there were people who made up contrived excuses for ignoring the intel warning of some sort of attack: “But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real. “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. Going on for more than a page, the document recited much of the evidence, including an interview that month with a Middle Eastern journalist in which Bin Laden aides warned of a coming attack,” – The Deafness Before the Storm By KURT EICHENWALD Why are some acting like it is wrong to point out that a politician didn’t do a good job?

You are not going to get these men to say, "Yeah, we sat back, ignored the warnings, so that when an attack happened we could use it as a pretext for our agenda to attack Iraq." BUT their excuses for why the President should ignore the warnings he was being given are so contrived and self-serving that it basically exposes what they were up to. This isn't over, people still have to pay for what they did to us. Remember that the Iraq War agenda is so devious that the very excuse President Bush gave for attacking Iraq is a flat out provable lie! (a lie that the media has deviously avoided pointing out) That lie specifically is the claim that Saddam didn't let the inspectors in.

Jon, how can you ever get a "new investigation" if you're constantly on your internet devices and not doing a damn thing as scientific research? You know what scientific research is, don't you? How about you get your ass to an actual lab and start crunching some numbers? Being on the internet isn't helping your cause and you knew that. Until you actually get involved in science your woo won't actually help you. Don't get offended, I'm only trying to help you understand your flaws. Calling for a new investigation, without science backed evidence, is not going to help you set up for a new investigation. Sorry but that's the cold hard truth.

Pat, how can anyone say that it's BS to say "The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth."

Do you disagree with the proposition that they deserve to know the truth?

Stundie, the reason a private investigation is inadequate is that liars were claim that the private investigation was biased or otherwise incompetent. Also, a private investigation will not have access to subpoena power, which is needed to compel witnesses' testimony and the production of relevant documents.

John, a lynch mob is not justice--especially not when it's the USMC. Dr. Noam Chomsky opined that the reason that Osama was killed was because the USA did not have sufficient evidence to convict him in a court of law.

Who are you to decide that the family members "know the truth"? They gave the 9/11 Commission 300 questions and they only got 27 answers. The NIST investigation dodged the ten essential mysteries of the collapses, and NIST's communications officer claims that their investigation did not analyze the collapses.

Most of what the 9/11 Commission tells us about al Qaeda they adopted uncritically from alleged CIA transcripts of alleged interrogation sessions allegedly done under torture of alleged al Qaeda members. No effort to verify the honesty of these transcripts has ever been made, and the CIA even allegedly destroyed the alleged videotapes of the alleged torture sessions. Such low-quality evidence may be enough for you, but it's not good enough for history and there's no reason to think it's good enough for the 9/11 families.

No one cares? The widows care. I care that the widows care. People who care about democracy and about our rights care.

Most of what the 9/11 Commission tells us about al Qaeda they adopted uncritically from alleged CIA transcripts of alleged interrogation sessions allegedly done under torture of alleged al Qaeda members. No effort to verify the honesty of these transcripts has ever been made, and the CIA even allegedly destroyed the alleged videotapes of the alleged torture sessions. Such low-quality evidence may be enough for you, but it's not good enough for history and there's no reason to think it's good enough for the 9/11 families.

False.

No one cares? The widows care. I care that the widows care. People who care about democracy and about our rights care.

The widows are nobody, you're nobody, and you don't have the foggiest idea what democracy is. Thanks for proving our points.

So Brian's self-discipline lasted not very long, which is totally not surprising. He saw a new name and figured, well, I've failed spectacularly for 15 years, but THIS guy will listen to me, and that will get the ball rolling, and I'll finally be famous and Laurie Van Auken will have sex with me and that girl Ian will be SO sorry!!!!!

Common sense tells you that if you wanna talk shit behind peoples backs at least do it in front of them while doing so. Otherwise if you do talk behind their backs you're nothing but a coward.

When I have some idiot talking behind my back I tell them to say it to my face. They usually back off or run away at the thought of confronting me face to face because they know full well I'd punch them square dead in the jaw.

There's happy clowns and sad clowns--and then there's hate clowns like Ian and Stundie. Pat and James claim that they don't have the power to ban them, but it also seems they lack the moral intelligence to tell them to STFU.

Jon, you could always do another pointless act of attention-seeking, like when you chained yourself to the White House fence. Only this time, may I suggest a hunger strike? While it will have the same effect on your 9/11 efforts as the White House stunt (zilch), it may have the benefit of dropping you to a weight where people will no longer mistake you for a walrus.

There's happy clowns and sad clowns--and then there's hate clowns like Ian and Stundie. Pat and James claim that they don't have the power to ban them, but it also seems they lack the moral intelligence to tell them to STFU.

Poor Brian. Every other website discussing 9/11 truth has banned him for being a liar and a lunatic and a sex stalker, so of course he wants the same to happen to those who humiliate him here on a daily basis.

You could always stop posting dumbspam here, Brian. I know it would be hard because you have nothing else going on in your miserable little life, no job, no friends, no family, no hobbies, but maybe, with help from mental health professionals, you could find a less pointless way to spend your time?

your belief that money should substitute for justice tells us all we need to know about you.

I have a job Brian. I work for the State. Unlike you I know you live off welfare, SSI and possibly SSD. I know you mooch off the government you say you hate so much but what would happen if there were no government? That free money would be gone and you'd have no one to support your lazy ass.

Hate clowns. Lying ad hominems and stalker threats. Stundie, you don't know anything about me. I've never mooched a dime off the government. I leave that to turkeys like you who can't even see that their whole paycheck is "free money".