On missing the 32 yarder last week Mason "I donít know if the wind caught it a little bit and took it to the right" You have got to be freaking kidding me. Maybe the wind pushes the ball so that it magically falls from Finley's hands. Worst % kicker in the NFL, bring back Billy Cundiff time?

You're reaching, dude. Reaching hard. I promise that if Finley said that he thought the wind had caught Mason's kick and pulled it, no one would jump all over him. Can we just stop the whole "everyone is out to get Finley for everything he says" bullcrap? It's a coward's argument. If you can't find any real means to defend him by, don't fall back to the "old classics".

As for Mason himself, this was his first missed field goal under 50 yards. Many considered among the league's best kickers have missed more from under 50. The 50+ yarders are kind of a crapshoot. They'll start dropping in soon.

How about you read my post? If Finley said the wind blew the ball so it fell out of his hands people would kill him for saying that. Why would Finley talk about Crosby? No excuses for Crosby, we haven't asked him to do the impossible, they have been under 60 yards, and a couple of the kicks have been straight pathetic._________________

The problem with these original comments about the Jaguars and then the latter one about "let's just throw it all the time" is that an NFL player really shouldn't be thinking that way. ANY team can beat you and the attitude that they should automatically dominate them is exactly why "trap games" happen. Thinking that just throwing every single play is even a realistic option... I don't even see how he can EVER reach his potential if he is literally that dense.

I really don't have a problem with what he said per se, but it shows part of the problem with not really understanding NFL offensive concepts or the overall reality of talent parity in the league. He can say whatever he wants but WHAT he says kinda leaves me questioning if he is ever really capable of "getting it". I'm sure those closer know more, but it's just the kind of stuff that as an outsider trips some serious bells._________________

Wilfred wrote:

Memory is like the Packers when they are behind by two touchdowns in the 4th quarter... It comes back.

On missing the 32 yarder last week Mason "I donít know if the wind caught it a little bit and took it to the right" You have got to be freaking kidding me. Maybe the wind pushes the ball so that it magically falls from Finley's hands. Worst % kicker in the NFL, bring back Billy Cundiff time?

You're reaching, dude. Reaching hard. I promise that if Finley said that he thought the wind had caught Mason's kick and pulled it, no one would jump all over him. Can we just stop the whole "everyone is out to get Finley for everything he says" bullcrap? It's a coward's argument. If you can't find any real means to defend him by, don't fall back to the "old classics".

As for Mason himself, this was his first missed field goal under 50 yards. Many considered among the league's best kickers have missed more from under 50. The 50+ yarders are kind of a crapshoot. They'll start dropping in soon.

How about you read my post? If Finley said the wind blew the ball so it fell out of his hands people would kill him for saying that. Why would Finley talk about Crosby? No excuses for Crosby, we haven't asked him to do the impossible, they have been under 60 yards, and a couple of the kicks have been straight pathetic.

You went into a thread about Finley to intentionally troll those who no longer believe in him on an admittedly unrelated post.

Wind can be a factor for kicks too. And Crosby's 69% isn't far and away the worst. Everyone's favorite kicker, Akers, is at 72%. He's missed a higher percentage from under 50 yards, too._________________

wgbeethree wrote:

In all fairness it is kind of rude to just lay injured at their feet while the Lions defensive players are trying to hold a completely unrelated dance party.

On missing the 32 yarder last week Mason "I donít know if the wind caught it a little bit and took it to the right" You have got to be freaking kidding me. Maybe the wind pushes the ball so that it magically falls from Finley's hands. Worst % kicker in the NFL, bring back Billy Cundiff time?

You're reaching, dude. Reaching hard. I promise that if Finley said that he thought the wind had caught Mason's kick and pulled it, no one would jump all over him. Can we just stop the whole "everyone is out to get Finley for everything he says" bullcrap? It's a coward's argument. If you can't find any real means to defend him by, don't fall back to the "old classics".

As for Mason himself, this was his first missed field goal under 50 yards. Many considered among the league's best kickers have missed more from under 50. The 50+ yarders are kind of a crapshoot. They'll start dropping in soon.

How about you read my post? If Finley said the wind blew the ball so it fell out of his hands people would kill him for saying that. Why would Finley talk about Crosby? No excuses for Crosby, we haven't asked him to do the impossible, they have been under 60 yards, and a couple of the kicks have been straight pathetic.

You went into a thread about Finley to intentionally troll those who no longer believe in him on an admittedly unrelated post.

Wind can be a factor for kicks too. And Crosby's 69% isn't far and away the worst. Everyone's favorite kicker, Akers, is at 72%. He's missed a higher percentage from under 50 yards, too.

I was pointing out a fact. If Finley said that same thing, that weather conditions caused him to drop passes people would be out for his head. Crosby gets a pass, there is no way in hell the wind drove a 32 yard kick right. It should never be close to missing that kick. He has been slicing the ball right a lot this year where it tails to the right. Akers gas nothing to do with it. It's like me saying Finley has as many TD's as Calvin Johnson, it's irrelevant._________________

On missing the 32 yarder last week Mason "I donít know if the wind caught it a little bit and took it to the right" You have got to be freaking kidding me. Maybe the wind pushes the ball so that it magically falls from Finley's hands. Worst % kicker in the NFL, bring back Billy Cundiff time?

You're reaching, dude. Reaching hard. I promise that if Finley said that he thought the wind had caught Mason's kick and pulled it, no one would jump all over him. Can we just stop the whole "everyone is out to get Finley for everything he says" bullcrap? It's a coward's argument. If you can't find any real means to defend him by, don't fall back to the "old classics".

As for Mason himself, this was his first missed field goal under 50 yards. Many considered among the league's best kickers have missed more from under 50. The 50+ yarders are kind of a crapshoot. They'll start dropping in soon.

How about you read my post? If Finley said the wind blew the ball so it fell out of his hands people would kill him for saying that. Why would Finley talk about Crosby? No excuses for Crosby, we haven't asked him to do the impossible, they have been under 60 yards, and a couple of the kicks have been straight pathetic.

You went into a thread about Finley to intentionally troll those who no longer believe in him on an admittedly unrelated post.

Wind can be a factor for kicks too. And Crosby's 69% isn't far and away the worst. Everyone's favorite kicker, Akers, is at 72%. He's missed a higher percentage from under 50 yards, too.

I was pointing out a fact. If Finley said that same thing, that weather conditions caused him to drop passes people would be out for his head. Crosby gets a pass, there is no way in hell the wind drove a 32 yard kick right. It should never be close to missing that kick. He has been slicing the ball right a lot this year where it tails to the right. Akers gas nothing to do with it. It's like me saying Finley has as many TD's as Calvin Johnson, it's irrelevant.

I think the wind kicking a FG and catching a pass are two very different things. You're the one making irrelevant comparisons. _________________

On missing the 32 yarder last week Mason "I donít know if the wind caught it a little bit and took it to the right" You have got to be freaking kidding me. Maybe the wind pushes the ball so that it magically falls from Finley's hands. Worst % kicker in the NFL, bring back Billy Cundiff time?

You're reaching, dude. Reaching hard. I promise that if Finley said that he thought the wind had caught Mason's kick and pulled it, no one would jump all over him. Can we just stop the whole "everyone is out to get Finley for everything he says" bullcrap? It's a coward's argument. If you can't find any real means to defend him by, don't fall back to the "old classics".

As for Mason himself, this was his first missed field goal under 50 yards. Many considered among the league's best kickers have missed more from under 50. The 50+ yarders are kind of a crapshoot. They'll start dropping in soon.

How about you read my post? If Finley said the wind blew the ball so it fell out of his hands people would kill him for saying that. Why would Finley talk about Crosby? No excuses for Crosby, we haven't asked him to do the impossible, they have been under 60 yards, and a couple of the kicks have been straight pathetic.

You went into a thread about Finley to intentionally troll those who no longer believe in him on an admittedly unrelated post.

Wind can be a factor for kicks too. And Crosby's 69% isn't far and away the worst. Everyone's favorite kicker, Akers, is at 72%. He's missed a higher percentage from under 50 yards, too.

I was pointing out a fact. If Finley said that same thing, that weather conditions caused him to drop passes people would be out for his head. Crosby gets a pass, there is no way in hell the wind drove a 32 yard kick right. It should never be close to missing that kick. He has been slicing the ball right a lot this year where it tails to the right. Akers gas nothing to do with it. It's like me saying Finley has as many TD's as Calvin Johnson, it's irrelevant.

I think the wind kicking a FG and catching a pass are two very different things. You're the one making irrelevant comparisons.

It's a 32 yard FG unless its 80+mph winds that is irrelevant. Its such a short distance that a 3 mph wind can't push it. He missed the FG and made a ridiculous claim about the wind._________________

Why is it so hard for Finley to lie?? Even if it is the biggest lie in your life, you lie and say "Man me and 12 had it goin on Sunday! It was a great team win and I was really glad to help out on a couple big plays, hopefully he is confident in me and keeps feeding me the ball." Why is that so damn hard?

I do want somebody in the media to grill Mason Crosby this week though. I wonder if he will break out the "I am not sure what is going on, maybe opened a door and there was a gust of wind because I hit it right, it felt good." Missing 3 kicks in doors is worse than dropping even 40% of the passes that hit you in the hands._________________

He's not throwing to him like he used to because Finley has proven to be inconsistent and unreliable.

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"What's frustrating is he trusted me. He threw the ball to me," Finley said of Rodgers. "I dropped balls in '09 and '10, but I came back. I made up for all that and nobody talked.

You don't get to keep digging yourself out of holes like that. What about '11? Didn't exactly "come back" there. The whole problem is HIS fault and he talks like it's all Rodgers' fault. Finley is down on the pecking order because he KEEPS putting HIMSELF there. The guys getting the targets are the guys that are coming through with it when they get a chance.

It's like a much more minor version of the Titus Young situation. The player's job is to keep the team happy. Not the other way around.

Personally, I think the only way you can even TRY to keep Jennings is if you ditch Finley and free up that money. Even if you end up not being able to lock Jennings down, no way in hell is Finley worth that cap number next year._________________

Wilfred wrote:

Memory is like the Packers when they are behind by two touchdowns in the 4th quarter... It comes back.

everyone hates finley because he is different than everyone else, hes honest and definitely not politically correct.

its pretty much fact to say Finley>Driver over the last two years. yet i am going to get attacked because everyone loves driver. driver is nice and politically correct and so people like him even though his performance is way down.

driver playing bad is still>>>than finley playing average in packer fans eyes just because of the different character of the two

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everyone hates finley because he is different than everyone else, hes honest and definitely not politically correct.

its pretty much fact to say Finley>Driver over the last two years. yet i am going to get attacked because everyone loves driver. driver is nice and politically correct and so people like him even though his performance is way down.

driver playing bad is still>>>than finley playing average in packer fans eyes just because of the different character of the two

I think the difference is that Driver has fallen from the top of the pecking order and people have replaced him with great production. Finley, even though he has his faults is our best TE and we are stuck with him. Also there was a physical decline on the part of Driver, Finley has loads of talent and could play every game like last game but he doesn't._________________