fierce, isn't this thread a "complain" thread? maybe change your avatar since you're stabbing him in the back? i'm not averse to trading pierce but it's not the top thing that needs to be done on the list of things this season

fierce, isn't this thread a "complain" thread? maybe change your avatar since you're stabbing him in the back? i'm not averse to trading pierce but it's not the top thing that needs to be done on the list of things this season

This is not a complain thread. It's about being realistic.

You really think the Celtics will go higher than the 7th seed even if they improve?

It's too late, acie, the Celts had their chance to upgrade in December and last Jan. 15.

What's the use of going into the playoffs as the 8th or 7th seed and just getting eliminated in the 1st round?

And in case you didn't notice, KG and Pierce don't have it anymore.

I don't know if Pierce will be wanted as you say. I do agree with what you are saying about our chances. The fact is that we did not have a chance to improve the team on Dec 15 of Jan 15. We have players to trade that nobody wants. Bass, Terry, and Green have not improved their status in that time. Lee looks like he has helped himself.

You really think the Celtics will go higher than the 7th seed even if they improve?

It's too late, acie, the Celts had their chance to upgrade in December and last Jan. 15.

What's the use of going into the playoffs as the 8th or 7th seed and just getting eliminated in the 1st round?

And in case you didn't notice, KG and Pierce don't have it anymore.

i don't disagree. the problem is they are LEAGUE TRASH due to their excessive paychecks. the new CB is not very forgiving for over-booking your aged talent hired for down-the-stretch-help...... not any more.

if you want to put some new juice into this team you have to ditch rivers, the anti-coach- that's the easiest piece to replace. try to foll up bass, terry, lee, green and trade them away since doc has ruined them. i'd shop green extra hard as i think on his best day he has "desire" problems.

kg can be bought out after year's end and pierce can be dealt with later. you can't fix this mess on the run by ditching the oldvets. you have to get a big and get the pieces around them INTO THE GAME both physically and mentally- both of which do not happen regularly if ever under rivers

but again- which screwed up piece is NOT on the salary cap? which piece is CAUSING the most problems? why you don't even need a trade to be rid of him!!! teams that have been FREED from the tyranny of an incompetent coach (incompetence = same downtrodden effects as tyranny in pro, college ball) they will spring back.

i'm for minimalist maneuvers with big moves to come in the off season like dump pierce and rondo. they told the fans in BOS we're going to "try to win it one more time" and nobody on this team is trying. that's a C O A C H problem.

in case you didn't notice, kg and pierce and many others are mentally fatigued as well as physically....

It would be a start but no lottery team would make that trade. I agree that this team is done, they reached their peak years ago and its been a slow decline since, though its become rapid this year. Unlike the NFL its tough to rebuild a team in the NBA, a lot of it comes down to luck, the Celtics have been in position to have the number one or two pick a couple of times and lost out in the lottery. They could have had Duncan and Durant but were unlucky. They need a young star to build around, Durant would have been the guy.

If they don't make some moves this decline will continue and eventually they will find themselves with a top lottery pick.