I've never seen that before but I think the design makes sense. I've seen a similar thing done to bicycle saddles for the racers and that works for those organs (the crotch area). I suppose this would work for the tail end of the spine, but honestly, I've never had an issue with pain at the end of the spine, and considering that not many people are demanding regular chairs have this modification would lead me to believe there's probably a very small population that needs this.

They'd probably get more takers if they didn't charge so much just for the seat top. Their price for just that is more than an entire throne from somebody else.

I've never seen that before but I think the design makes sense. I've seen a similar thing done to bicycle saddles for the racers and that works for those organs (the crotch area). I suppose this would work for the tail end of the spine, but honestly, I've never had an issue with pain at the end of the spine, and considering that not many people are demanding regular chairs have this modification would lead me to believe there's probably a very small population that needs this.

They'd probably get more takers if they didn't charge so much just for the seat top. Their price for just that is more than an entire throne from somebody else.

It is a pretty steep price to pay. Methinks I'll stick with my warpath for a Roc-N-Soc, though this Tama Roadpro throne is pretty comfortable for the price.

exactly what I was wondering, Les... they better have a pretty wide plate to keep it from bending out. Jai Es swears by his, but I really wonder what the difference between these and a 'regular' one is, having sat in a Nitro Roc-N-Soc for an extended period and finding it pretty dang good.

Having had a Tama 1st Chair throne for a while now, I'm not sure I'll ever actually buy a Carmichael- I'd need to try one first now. The Tama is incredibly easy to sit in and feels very nice to me. Ahead has done what appears to be a copy of the Carmichael throne concept with their "Spinal G" series of thrones, and those are cheaper and probably available in more places... again, we'll see, but for now my Tama is really all I think I need.

SPINAL G is not quite the same as a CARMICHAEL, it has springs in the cushion(s) keeping you in motion, which (in my case anyway) provides little support. Also the gap is only .75" and collapses to les when you sit on it.

I'll have a review and detailed pics of the CARMICHAEL up in the next week or so.

SPINAL G is not quite the same as a CARMICHAEL, it has springs in the cushion(s) keeping you in motion, which (in my case anyway) provides little support. Also the gap is only .75" and collapses to les when you sit on it.

I'll have a review and detailed pics of the CARMICHAEL up in the next week or so.

Huh, I hadn't seen the springs. It did seem like the gap might be too small to fully work.

Got a CARMICHAEL, did 1 gig with it so far. Serious, very serious... life changing.

My mind is still grappling with coming to terms of feeling no type of pain/discomfort after a gig, and its so blown away with amazement its not able to speak about how this thing affects my playing ability. The CARMICHAEL'S done what its ben trying to figure out all these years. My mind is humbled.

We'll start a new thread and do a review soon, want to get some more time/weight on the CARMICHAEL.

Excuse me for bumping up a not so recent thread. It's justified though.

Has anyone used the Carmichael throne for other non-drumming purposes, as a chair/stool at home for example, at the dinner table or whatever else? Does it work?

I'm considering ordering one for myself but my wife actually has a far greater need for a "spine saver", unfortunately. So perhaps I should order two.

I know Carmichael produce proper office chairs based on the same concept but they're out of our price range, especially since I'm ordering from overseas. It would be cheaper to buy just the seat top and then add on a throne base and possibly a backrest.

Excuse me for bumping up a not so recent thread. It's justified though.

Has anyone used the Carmichael throne for other non-drumming purposes, as a chair/stool at home for example, at the dinner table or whatever else? Does it work?

I'm considering ordering one for myself but my wife actually has a far greater need for a "spine saver", unfortunately. So perhaps I should order two.

I know Carmichael produce proper office chairs based on the same concept but they're out of our price range, especially since I'm ordering from overseas. It would be cheaper to buy just the seat top and then add on a throne base and possibly a backrest.

What do you think?

When you have a need and it pertains to your health price shouldn't keep you from relief, especially if the pricy stuff works.

If your wife sits for long periods and has back issues, drop the cash and get her a good CARMICHALE chair. The CARMICHALE stuff works, its a 'cry once' purchase. When there's positive physical relief the debt you went into doesn't have a negative effect, you can live with and conquer it. I say spend the money, even if you don't have it, relief is worth the price.

If you're thinking double duty wife/you drumming, yes a CARMICHALE throne with a back rest is a workable option, once she gets used to feeling good and that's the effect of floating spine seating, she's going to want her own seat though.

I purchased the Carmichael throne seat. I have Roc N Soc thrones with the backrest so I only had to get the seat itself. It is very well made and the claim of relieving pressure is true, it feels great. It is also great for balance, especially when playing double bass. But, I am very sorry to say that the seat is too firm for me. It makes my rear-end go numb if I play over 20 minutes. I am very disappointed. I want to be clear that I would recommend to anyone to try one out to see for yourself. I have used if for a month and a half. I tried my best to adapt to it but it's just not for me.

I got the top while I was at work, and I thought it was great. My top is the 15" one.
I do Graphic Design, so I am at a computer a lot. It felt great for a "work chair", but would be better with a back rest for an all day thing, or puzzling out some issue that leaning back seems to aid in...

The office chair version would be awesome, but it's too expensive for me.

I received my CT-201-13BV hydraulic throne yesterday - here's some pics (so-so quality - lighting wasn't that good at the time I did the pics).

Assembly was super easy. Unpacking, unfolding the base legs, mounting the plate to the bottom side of the seat top (using the 4 bolts provided in the package), putting the seat on top of the base, fastening 2 handles at the plate, thus tightening the seat/plate to the top of the base - that's it! I used a multi size tool to fasten those bolts which I once bought for guitar applications.

Have been using it while working at the PC for a few hours now - feels great.
The hydraulic system works and feels great, too - the quality is evident. I went for the hydraulic version for more options and the extra charge is super low (some $13 I think).

The upholstering feels a bit stiff/hard but it works. I noticed that my back would get tired after a while but that wasn't at the kit but still at the PC where there is hardly any need to move/rotate etc. 13'' is perfect for me but I guess the bigger 15'' version would work fine, too. "Quality exists when the price is long forgotten" - Agreed, what was the price again?

Delivery was exactly 1 month - I went for the cheapest (out of 4) delivery option.

I purchased the Carmichael throne seat. I have Roc N Soc thrones with the backrest so I only had to get the seat itself. It is very well made and the claim of relieving pressure is true, it feels great. It is also great for balance, especially when playing double bass. But, I am very sorry to say that the seat is too firm for me. It makes my rear-end go numb if I play over 20 minutes. I am very disappointed. I want to be clear that I would recommend to anyone to try one out to see for yourself. I have used if for a month and a half. I tried my best to adapt to it but it's just not for me.

I've found you cannot wear tight pants with the CARMICHAEL b/c the the channel will cause a slight tightening effect on already tight fitting pants.

I prefer a firm seat when drumming, the last thing I want is a throne top that has give/compression which creates instability. The CARMICHAEL will eventually 'break in' and still provide support, not like other brands that compress and keep compressing till the foam is shot. My CARMICHAEL feels better every time I sit on it

I prefer a firm seat when drumming, the last thing I want is a throne top that has give/compression which creates instability. The CARMICHAEL will eventually 'break in' and still provide support, not like other brands that compress and keep compressing till the foam is shot.

Then I picked up my Gibraltar seat top and had my moment of epiphany...
The Gibraltar felt cheap and way too light compared to the solid build of the Carmichael.
Yes, the Carmichael is a little firm but that's how it should be. Just like any good mattress or sofa, a good throne top needs to have enough material density to be able to support your weight. Especially since almost your entire weight rests upon a small area.

I've noticed that a Gibraltar throne base alone costs almost as much as the complete throne with seat top. In other words, their seat top isn't worth very much, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case with other brands.

I can also confirm that the Carmichael seat top fits perfectly onto the Gibraltar throne base (the spindle model).

The 13" seat top is a perfect fit for average height/weight drummers I think. I can sit almost right in the middle without losing any leg mobility.

I won't say anymore since I haven't had a chance to really "drum test" the throne yet but first impressions are good.

... just had a week off work and finally had some drumming time. Can't say that the Carmichael made me "feel years younger" or that I suddenly became a better drummer but I suppose the long term affects will be noticed later. In the short term, it's more about what I didn't feel. Previously, I always felt significant discomfort bordering on pain during/after playing. I did several 2 hour sessions last week, including full setup and breakdown of my kit. I'm pleased to say that I felt no serious strain on my back, a little fatigue perhaps at the end, but nothing that I would consider worrying;
For my feeling the Carmichael has just the right amount of space between the two "butt rests". There's enough space to create enough relief for the spine, but not so much as to make the seat feel awkward or anything. I remember something that I heard a long time ago, that apparently humans only started to have serious back problems once they started sitting on chairs. It's not natural apparently. Well, this throne feels kind of natural to me. 'nough said.

I purchased the carmichael drum throne hoping to have it help or relieve my mid back pain. I'm sorry to say that I've been playing on this for a couple months now and I don't notice or feel any sort of relief. For me personally, I don't feel the price was worth it.

I purchased the carmichael drum throne hoping to have it help or relieve my mid back pain. I'm sorry to say that I've been playing on this for a couple months now and I don't notice or feel any sort of relief. For me personally, I don't feel the price was worth it.

You're repeating yourself. You just posted in another thread...

1) Did you see a doctor? If so, what's actually causing your back pain?
2) The Carmichael is easily among the best thrones out there. What if it's not the throne but something else? See 1) - address your problems _physically_ - provided this is possible, instead of blaming the throne.

If it can be helped physically - I'd suggest strengthening your core muscles. And maybe checking your posture. And keep the Carmichael for some more time as it might not be the culprit.

Excuse me for bumping up a not so recent thread. It's justified though.

Has anyone used the Carmichael throne for other non-drumming purposes, as a chair/stool at home for example, at the dinner table or whatever else? Does it work?

I'm considering ordering one for myself but my wife actually has a far greater need for a "spine saver", unfortunately. So perhaps I should order two.

I know Carmichael produce proper office chairs based on the same concept but they're out of our price range, especially since I'm ordering from overseas. It would be cheaper to buy just the seat top and then add on a throne base and possibly a backrest.

What do you think?

My employer just bought me a Carmichael CT-580 Mesh back Executive Chair..................had it for about a week now and it feels pretty good.....................a little firm, but my back does feel better.

It will probably be a few months before I can give an honest, thorough evaluation.