posted at 9:31 pm on January 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

To repeat a point made previously, U.S./Egyptian codependency is such that this guy could start wearing an S.S. uniform around Cairo and American diplomats would find a way to downplay it. “He’s just pandering,” “he’ll moderate in time,” “we’ll talk to him” — anything we can say to preserve this relationship and what little leverage we have over the region’s ascendant Islamist nutbags will be said. Here’s McCain, fresh off of a meeting today with Morsi, choosing door number three:

McCain said the delegation voiced its disapproval and had a “constructive discussion” with Morsi…

The delegation clearly sought to move beyond the unexpected diplomatic flap to focus on Egypt’s economy. McCain told reporters the congressional delegation will push for an additional $480 million in budget assistance to Egypt.

All of us are supportive,” he said. “We are working hard to try to see that this money is forthcoming.”

Economic and social collapse in Egypt will only make things easier for jihadis so the money must continue to flow. And American media will help to make that go down relatively smooth. National Journal has some spin tonight that I wasn’t expecting: They acknowledge that, yes, Morsi does mean what he says about hating Jews, but that’s okay because the hatred will become “inoperative” as the new Islamist Egypt and Israel are forced to coexist. Will it? Is Hamas’s hatred “inoperative”? Was Arafat’s inoperative after years of U.S. attempts to broker peace in the 1990s? The reason regional hatred for Israel is more or less “inoperative” is because the IDF has the capability to blow its enemies to smithereens if challenged. If that balance of power ever changes, you’ll see how inoperative the hatred is. But for now, let’s keep the charade and the foreign-aid bribes going for another few decades in the vain hope that liberal democracy will flower at last.

Now, go see how much Obama’s support for the Arab Spring has done for opinions about the U.S.

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An Egyptian Christian woman who converted to Islam when she married decided to return to Christianity after her husband died, along with her seven children. They have been jailed for 15 years for violating sharia.

Well this new Egypt is his and Obama’s..they were all for the Islamic winter..he can’t back away from them now..Just know, John, it’s not good to support a country who’s leaders hate Israel so much..God won’t look kindly on that..remember that..also know when you support the Muslim Brotherhood, you are also supporting al qaeda

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals.

He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition. He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!”

There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

Now to be fair, Sadat, was arrested by being an Nazi sympathizer, during the second world war, and wrote a eulogy for Hitler in 1954,
however, it was ultimately amenable to persuasion, in part because of Kamal Adham’s nudgings toward the Americans.

Why don’t you give him YOUR (wife’s) MILLIONS, you senile old bat?!?!?

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 9:39 PM

As annoying and outmoded as I find Senator McCain I find statements like this reprehensible.

I don’t know how else to put this but statements like this tell anybody with more than two-nickels that you’re broke. That’s not a crime, it’s not even a bad thing if it motivates you. It can be a launchpad for your success.

I just cannot stand, repeat, cannot stand when some broke sod pops-off about what to do with another’s wealth. Your argument follows the framework of the most tired liberal tropes.

Now to be fair, Sadat, was arrested by being an Nazi sympathizer, during the second world war, and wrote a eulogy for Hitler in 1954,
however, it was ultimately amenable to persuasion, in part because of Kamal Adham’s nudgings toward the Americans.

Economic and social collapse in Egypt will only make things easier for jihadis so the money must continue to flow.

But economic and social collapse WILL occur. And when it does, will we be in a stronger position? Will western civilization? Or will more countries follow Germany’s lead and demand their gold back from the New York Fed?

QUESTION: Yesterday, you were pretty clear that you wanted to see President Morsi repudiate his comments himself. You mentioned that there was a CODEL there in town. They met with President Morsi yesterday and they expressed their displeasure, according to the members of the CODEL.

MS. NULAND: I think it was today they’re meeting.

QUESTION: Well, then maybe the meeting was today.

MS. NULAND: Yeah.

QUESTION: But they were there yesterday as well. Anyway, apparently there’s an Egyptian presidential spokesman has come out and said that President Morsi’s comments made – when he made them were taken out of context and that he was not referring to individuals or races of people but rather to racist policies of a country. Is that the kind of repudiation you’re looking for?

MS. NULAND: I’m going to say to you, Matt, that I frankly haven’t seen what President Morsi’s spokesperson has said, so let me – nor have I had a readout on the CODEL’s meeting with him.

QUESTION: Okay.

MS. NULAND: So let us just pledge to you that we’ll get an update on Egypt for tomorrow.

QUESTION: Well, okay, but –

QUESTION: Could you get that one today?

QUESTION: If that’s –

MS. NULAND: Let me see if we have anything further to share today.

QUESTION: If that’s what – I mean, if that’s what they’re going to say and they think that that’s case closed, basically, is that your view? I mean, would that be a sufficient repudiation for you to no longer have concerns about the statements?

MS. NULAND: Again, I haven’t seen it so I can’t evaluate it, nor have I had a chance –

QUESTION: You mean you’re not going to trust me on this one? (Laughter.)

MS. NULAND: You know, Matt, I generally trust you, but I think I’m going to get a sense of how our Embassy understood it and what follow-up action that they’ve had.

First, anti-Semite anywhere ought not get a cent of US aid, in Pakistan or anywhere. Second, they ought not be Secretary of State. What a disgrace. Third, McCain is shocking naif for a old US Senator. Good grief.

He is in a NVN prison getting the shit beat out of him routinely as were his fellow captives while John Horseface Kerry is testilying in front of the senate in 1970.
Now they are BFF. Fk the country, it’s about the club.

A little side note. John’s dad never got the spanking he deserved over events at Guadalcanal. Remember, it’s not who you know it’s who you blow.

Spin baby spin. Mubarak was ex military and understood exactly where the line was drawn. Your attempt to elicit any similarities to Morsi’s comments/beliefs shows how twisted and dishonest you truly are!

Economic and social collapse in Egypt will only make things easier for jihadis so the money must continue to flow.

Lemme get this straight.
Egypt now has an islamist government, which is sharia compliant and enforces the will of allah but it still needs our kafir money ?
Jihadis ARE the government there. What other jihadis is Hussein afraid of ?
How is it possible that Egypt will ever face economic and social collapse ? Doesn’t islam solve every problem ?
Now that Mubarak is practically dead and there is that democratically elected ultra- modern leadership in Egypt, why would it need any financial help at all ? Why is that country not rolling in dough now that sharia is the law and Qardawi is their guide ?

McShame needs to just go away and take his idiot daughter with him. That whole family has hit a low in the evolutionary path.

All of these scumbags in Washington were shilling for the muslim brotherhood (the “mostly secular” group of guys, LOL) ever since they decided that they wanted to take down a generally dependable American ally in the region. The left and the dems did this in order to help the pan-islamic wave sweep out the old pan-arabism of the arab world (pan-arabists were pretty bad people … but the pan-islamists are even worse, as difficult as that is) and people like McShame supported this because … because he’s just an azz and an idiot. Now, he’s trying to defend his indefensible position.

Spin baby spin. Mubarak was ex military and understood exactly where the line was drawn. Your attempt to elicit any similarities to Morsi’s comments/beliefs shows how twisted and dishonest you truly are!

dmann on January 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I’m not spinning anything.

Sharia was the root of Egyptian law when Mubarak was Pesident and that hasn’t changed. Christians died in protests against the government when Mubarak was President and that hasn’t changed. The government run media published anti-semetic diatribes regularly when Mubarak was President (and owned a significant portion of the media) and that hasn’t changed. Mubarak and Morsi employ the same populist rhetoric. Nothing twisted or dishonest about those points.

Thus far Morsi seems to understand that he is operating under the same restraints as Mubarak. You don’t have to be an Egyptian officer to understand that Egypt depends on outside help and Morsi is just as aware of that dependency as Mubarak was. I think the outlook is grim but the reality of power is that it tends to make radicals a lot more pragmatic once they have to deal with things like security and the economy.

Sharia was the root of Egyptian law when Mubarak was Pesident and that hasn’t changed. Christians died in protests against the government when Mubarak was President and that hasn’t changed. The government run media published anti-semetic diatribes regularly when Mubarak was President (and owned a significant portion of the media) and that hasn’t changed. Mubarak and Morsi employ the same populist rhetoric. Nothing twisted or dishonest about those points.

lexhamfox on January 16, 2013 at 10:49 PM

It’s all changed. It’s gotten much worse. The pan-arabists were a nasty group of idiots but the pan-islamists are far worse. Funny how you and your ilk loved Q’Daffy (the centerfold of Barky’s crypto-Christian marxist church magazine and the love of many international leftists for decades) and you all crowed about how Assad was “a real reformer”. The only thing that changed your attitude was that you found people who are even more primitive and anti-Western (which was no mean feat, that’s for sure) to support. You people really disgust me.

You don’t address or refute any of my points and then resort to making up positions I have never taken regarding Libya and Syria.

lexhamfox on January 16, 2013 at 11:04 PM

LOL. I addressed your main point. And I’m sure you didn’t agree with your political ilk on Libya and Syria …. sure …

Tell me, did you like Nobel Peace Prize winner Sadat? I’ve never run into a lefty who didn’t think he was a great guy. Well, Mubarak was no different from Sadat. But you idiots idolized Sadat and then, the minute you spotted the muslim horde available to overturn even the minute amount of pro-Western policy in Egypt you turned on the guy – our ally – who was just continuing Sadat’s policies and acting the same as Sadat had.

Looks like the 113th congress started off where the last one left off, spend and spend. More give away programs salted with pork. Obama was right spending is not the problem, at least for these idiots. The whole damned bunch are traitors

You don’t address or refute any of my points and then resort to making up positions I have never taken regarding Libya and Syria.

lexhamfox on January 16, 2013 at 11:04 PM

LOL. I addressed your main point. And I’m sure you didn’t agree with your political ilk on Libya and Syria …. sure …

Tell me, did you like Nobel Peace Prize winner Sadat? I’ve never run into a lefty who didn’t think he was a great guy. Well, Mubarak was no different from Sadat. But you idiots idolized Sadat and then, the minute you spotted the muslim horde available to overturn even the minute amount of pro-Western policy in Egypt you turned on the guy – our ally – who was just continuing Sadat’s policies and acting the same as Sadat had.

You smear yourself.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 16, 2013 at 11:14 PM

You are just having an imaginary debate with yourself. Rant away all you like but don’t make up my positions (idolize Sadat??).

So … you’re the only lefty in the world who didn’t love Nobel Peace Prize winner (LOL) Sadat? I bet you’ll tell me you hated Arafat, too – the most frequent visitor to the Clinton White House, by miles.

So … you’re the only lefty in the world who didn’t love Nobel Peace Prize winner (LOL) Sadat? I bet you’ll tell me you hated Arafat, too – the most frequent visitor to the Clinton White House, by miles.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 16, 2013 at 11:37 PM

I’m not a ‘lefty’ and I certainly never idolized Sadat nor Clinton. I do think that in the context of the Cold War the Camp David Accord was important for the US and for Israel, however, and no, I never idolized Begin either.

You really are a few sandwiches short of a picnic if you think ‘the left’ anywhere idolized Sadat.

McCain is a pain. Gun Owners of America, jan 4, 2013, on McCain and Levin working to change Senate rules to float gun control -

But the first step will be to demolish the Senate rules so that gun control only requires 50 votes — or so that gun control can be inserted in a House-Senate conference report on a must-pass bill. McCain is now working with Leftist anti-gun Senator Carl Levin on a series of rules changes to make gun control a lot easier to pass.

The first McCain-Levin rules change would make it impossible to fight — what’s known in Washington as — the “motion to proceed.” Remember ObamaCare? Our last real shot to kill ObamaCare was by filibustering the “motion to proceed” to that anti-gun legislation.

The second McCain-Levin rules change would make it easier to add gun control to a bill in conference. Currently, senators can block a House-Senate conference from considering an anti-gun bill. But if the McCain proposals are adopted, a “must-pass” bill could be sent to conference … amended in conference with a draconian gun ban … and then sent back to the House and the Senate on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.

The third McCain-Levin rules change would block any amendments except for those offered by Minority Leader Mitch McConnell or Floor Manager John McCain. All other senators would be left out in the cold.

There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

RasThavas on January 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Thanks for reminding us. All we heard in his presidential campaign was his war-hero story. There was more to it than that.

He’s our John Kerry. Self-aggrandizing opportunist cloaked in military reverence. His irrationality is mistaken for being independent-minded and incorruptible (!)

But the fact is that he has extremely poor judgment, as his statement supporting Morsi, the Islamic fascist, shows.

I don’t know if you guys realize how much the Islamist mob hates Israel in the entire Arab world. The mob being not the people who opine and write comments on blogs or write letters, but the ones who riot and burn and kill and storm embassies and aren’t afraid of bullets.

And you don’t realize the role pride plays in the Arab world, especially in Egypt.

I’m surprised the white house did anything at all, and that the senators went to Egypt and brought this up with Morsi.

Let’s just say the US doesn’t have much leverage, and that even the bribe money US pays to Egypt to not destabilize the region isn’t much of a bribe. These f8cking people will gladly cut their own nose off to spite their face, so even to tread this lightly is risky enough.

What do you think Obama or McCain should do instead of what’s been done so far?

And I’m sure his buddy Lindsey Graham will urge the Senate to throw the taxpayers’ money down this sewer. Egypt’s biggest handicap is that it has no oil. Let them go hat-in-hand to their friends in Iran for the buckos, I’m sick of throwing away money on ‘moderate’, ‘reformest’ regimes. And don’t forget the jets we’re promising to deliver to these bozos!!

Republicans need to push hard for Balanced Budget Amendment until then when the Administration or anyone (i.e McCain) want to fork over Billions to Egypt GOP must ask them where we should take the money from Defense, Homeland Security, Medicare, Social Security?