Roamio / Android

I think we have all learned that "Coming Soon" from Tivo doesn't always mean any day soon. We are an Android family and while I want the 6 tuners I'm not likely to pull the trigger until an Android solution is released. No problem, I don't mind hanging on to my OLED S3 and $1,300 a bit longer.

Sometimes it is worth repeating a desired feature over and over again because it stresses to TiVo how much this is costing them. Maybe it's not much... but maybe it is?

Microsoft responded to people hating on the Xbox One by changing the entire DRM scheme. Companies do sometimes listen.

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Agreed. But when it's coming from the same couple of people, regularly thread-jacking topics to the point of annoying others, then it's a different matter.

Having others read things like "No DTA yet? OMFG Tivo fail!" over and over again, presumptively assuming future "failures", and calling Tivo out for pre-conceived "failures" of unannounced products is not constructive to anything but to make him feel better and blow off his pent-up steam. That's not consumer demand; it's just straight up internet whining.

TiVo has flat out said, on many occasions, that Android support is "coming." Pretending they have not said this by pointing to the website and showing that it doesn't say that on the website right now is bordering on dishonest. TiVo has promised this feature.

I agree you shouldn't buy hardware on a software promise, but pretending the promise hasn't been made is just bogus. It has.

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They have promised nothing, they may have leak or even stated what they are working on but that is in no way a promise. Many companies are working on many things that will never turn into a product or service. This has been going on for decades in many industries heck just look at all the concept cars that are at auto shows. TiVo currently offers a product for sale that they say is designed to stream video from a TiVo to an IOS device nothing more and as far as I know it does a pretty good job of doing what TiVo claims it does. This is not the same as how they marketed the Premiere, when it was released it really didn't function in the HDUI and certainly wasn't able to do anything near what the hype lead people to believe.

Agreed. But when it's coming from the same couple of people, regularly thread-jacking topics to the point of annoying others, then it's a different matter.

Having others read things like "No DTA yet? OMFG Tivo fail!" over and over again, presumptively assuming future "failures", and calling Tivo out for pre-conceived "failures" of unannounced products is not constructive to anything but to make him feel better and blow off his pent-up steam. That's not consumer demand; it's just straight up internet whining.

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Agree 100%. If you are mad about android, keep it to the android threads or make new threads or send angry e-mails. Don't hijack other threads.

They have promised nothing, they may have leak or even stated what they are working on but that is in no way a promise. Many companies are working on many things that will never turn into a product or service. This has been going on for decades in many industries heck just look at all the concept cars that are at auto shows. TiVo currently offers a product for sale that they say is designed to stream video from a TiVo to an IOS device nothing more and as far as I know it does a pretty good job of doing what TiVo claims it does. This is not the same as how they marketed the Premiere, when it was released it really didn't function in the HDUI and certainly wasn't able to do anything near what the hype lead people to believe.

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This is just flat out incorrect. I don't know if you weren't paying attention when the Stream came out or if you weren't around or what, but they absolutely, undeniably said it was coming soon. When a company says a feature is in the works through official channels (not leaks, official channels) that is a promise.

If your argument is that sometimes companies promise things they do not deliver, that is true, but is totally irrelevant. If a company promises you something then doe snot deliver, you should be mad about that. So going "well, companies sometimes punch everyone in the balls" does not make it OK to get punched in the balls.

Stop being an apologist. This is a clear open/shut topic. TiVo said android support was coming, and android support has not arrived. That is a failure by TiVo to deliver on a promise and is a valid basis for customers to be unhappy.

I'm kind of confused from all the reviews as to what the Roamio does out of the box and what's supposedly coming in the Fall update. A lot of the reviews mention DTA and outside the home streaming, but some seemed as if they had actually tried it while others indicated it was coming later. I'm going to hold off a few days and see what the reviews from users on this site say first.

I'm also debating heavily on whether I want the Plus or the Pro. I'm not sure 1TB is enough for me, but I'm also not sure I want to pay $200 for a 2TB upgrade. Hmmm.... Decisions, decisions

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DTA was added today to the Minis, at least for use with a Roamio. Not sure about with a Premiere. This is per a tweet from @TivoDesign.

TiVo hasn't said a word about the PC client, or even a Windows 8 app, so who knows what's going on there. Although they did show some sort of browser based UI at the cable show so maybe that'll be the way they support streaming on other devices.

It seems like a no-brainer to work on a windows 8 app. The question is, do you make it run on RT or just make it for Pro?

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There are some technical limitations that make it not as easy as it sounds for either. However if the make an actual Win8 app, and not a desktop app, then it should work on either RT or Pro. It's basically just a compiler switch unless you start diving heavily into the DirectX stuff for games and such.

We can all understand the sentiment, we just don't need to hear it repeated ad nauseam in every other thread. We heard you the first 50 times.

We get it. Delays suck.

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Don't like it, don't read it.

And you know what, maybe if people spoke up about the issues, maybe TiVo would push the issue and get it done. But, if you want to be one of the people who throw money at them for incomplete products, have fun with that. I'd rather be one of the vocal ones (since we know some TiVo people poke around in here) to garner up some attention to the issue.

Just watched an interview with Tom Rodgers and he was specifically asked about Android. He said that it, and the outside the home streaming, would "light up" in the "Fall". So it looks like we're still a couple months out on those features.

There are some technical limitations that make it not as easy as it sounds for either. However if the make an actual Win8 app, and not a desktop app, then it should work on either RT or Pro. It's basically just a compiler switch unless you start diving heavily into the DirectX stuff for games and such.

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Yeah, sorry, I didn't use the correct terminology there. What I meant was, "it's a no brainer to write a an app that runs on windows 8, but do you make it a metro app or not so it can run on RT." But since they dropped "metro" I am never quite sure what to call things.

Just watched an interview with Tom Rodgers and he was specifically asked about Android. He said that it, and the outside the home streaming, would "light up" in the "Fall". So it looks like we're still a couple months out on those features.

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Anytime before we see the sales in December is alright with me. That's when I'll want to upgrade.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't use the correct terminology there. What I meant was, "it's a no brainer to write a an app that runs on windows 8, but do you make it a metro app or not so it can run on RT." But since they dropped "metro" I am never quite sure what to call things.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't use the correct terminology there. What I meant was, "it's a no brainer to write a an app that runs on windows 8, but do you make it a metro app or not so it can run on RT." But since they dropped "metro" I am never quite sure what to call things.

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Windows 7 preferably since most corporations won't be running 8 for a while.

A Non-Metro PC app would make no sense. It's likely that it will be implemented as a Metro app, and/or possibly a web interface built into the TiVos' or TiVo.com that allows for integrated streaming. Essentially, imagine the iOS iPad app in a browser.

TiVo showed some CloudTV interface at the cable show where the entire UI was running in a browser, including the ability to play recordings. Maybe they'll release that to the public and we'll be able to watch on anything with a browser