Oh and yes, the cable cars are great, I'm a walking kinda a guy but even I can see where endlessly tackling those hills can be a drain, and with the people I was with, walking wasn't an option. I'm a fan of public transportation that works anyway, part of the reason I found the town so fascinating.

Walking is great there too, though. We used to take the train in, bus over to the Haight and walk to the ocean through golden gate park. Unless we were already holding, in which case we would skip the Haight.

I need to con some foundation or other into buying me a trip out there.

Yeah, we've already discussed going back, and I suggested that when football season starts up again we could go back and since I'm the only non-football type, I offered the idea of everyone else going to a football game and then I'd go stump around town, because honestly, I'm not mean enough to stick most people on a walking tour with me.