BS built on some facts figures that goes OFF into imaginary connections with other 'theories'.

ONLY facts they have right is the star pattern, AS this IS repeating BECAUSE the solar system IS passing through the Milky Way Galactic cloud/plasma and about to be hit by the Galactic Wave from the core of the M.W.G. that happens about every 13,600 years !

WE (our galaxy ) passes above and BELOW the M.W.G. BECAUSE our solar system/small galaxy is being slowly CAPTURED by the M.W.G. and viewed from the side, we make a sine wave doing so every 26,000 years, approximately.

SAD this information HAS been out there for several years, and STILL idiots try and put their theories into some form that fits their UNEDUCATED ideas/New Age crap !

Peace OP; directed at ALL those lacking the information/too stupid to understand it/unwilling to spend the time to research all the data, think for themselves and NOT just you. Atr least your trying.

I am want to say this, also, Anonymous....thatI just love your expectant tone that something--an event, a "second coming"--will give us allthe NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH that we are allsecretly hoping for. Remember, however, thatthe Universe works in the UNSEEN before sheworks in THE SEEN. The changes may happen andwe may not see ANYTHING in the physical at all.We just really don't know at this point.Just like in II Timothy: "For we walk by FAITH,not by SIGHT. Please treat yourself to the video links onthe first page (the "WOW" thread, and the"Davinci thread") which will show you theamazing beauty of the Orion Nebula and how ithas somehow subconsciously been "feeding" thehearts and minds of the great artists. IfOrion can do this across light years of space,the alignment on 12-03-12 will certainly havean impact.

I WAS JUST WONDERING....with all this "mirror"business with Orion and Great Art and thetopography of Egypt, etc. etc.....HAS ANYONEbeen able to see any "alignments" or "signs"that are obviously for December 03,2012 in theNASA pictures of the Nebula? DO WE HAVEPUBLIC ACCESS TO THE ORION NEBULA PHOTOS THATMAY BE TAKEN ON 12-03-12. My heart tells methat we may see something WONDERFUL in Orionon that date since: "As above....so below!"Right?....Just sayin'

9 - The qualities of the number 9 are those of leadership, the ability to see clearly, integration, the three worlds – physical, intellectual, spiritual, last symbol before return to unity, ability to understand, inborn talents, compulsions, introspection, personal integrity, unity, truth, perfection, concord, dissolves ego attachments, challenges faced in looking for your own wisdom.

BS built on some facts figures that goes OFF into imaginary connections with other 'theories'.

ONLY facts they have right is the star pattern, AS this IS repeating BECAUSE the solar system IS passing through the Milky Way Galactic cloud/plasma and about to be hit by the Galactic Wave from the core of the M.W.G. that happens about every 13,600 years !

WE (our galaxy ) passes above and BELOW the M.W.G. BECAUSE our solar system/small galaxy is being slowly CAPTURED by the M.W.G. and viewed from the side, we make a sine wave doing so every 26,000 years, approximately.

SAD this information HAS been out there for several years, and STILL idiots try and put their theories into some form that fits their UNEDUCATED ideas/New Age crap !

Peace OP; directed at ALL those lacking the information/too stupid to understand it/unwilling to spend the time to research all the data, think for themselves and NOT just you. Atr least your trying.

Eagle

Quoting: Eagle # 1 28447870

Wow! That's interesting info, Eagle. I wasreally bummed to find out that the Milky Way GalaxyIS NOT our "home" galaxy. We are simply in thelast "remnant" (like a cinnamon bun that has beenunrolled and gobbeled up from one end) being ABSORBED by the Milky Way. NASA announced this yearsago--maybe 5 or so? but it really never seemed to get very much attention. Our "home" galaxy was called"The Sagittarian Galaxy" and in a couple million yearswe will be just part of one of the outer limbs ofthe Milky Way Galaxy....and we WILL NOT BE AT THEODD ANGLE we are now. That should cause quite a'stir' don't you think, when that happens!Here is a picture of a "cannibal" galaxy absorbinganother smaller galaxy, like TMWG and our old Sag.galaxy:

Wouldn't it be bizaar if the 12-03-12 dateis the Egyptian's warning that beginning thatdate, we will actually begin to slide into theouter arm of the Milky Way? This would certainlycause all the earth changes we are seeing today--but I haven't ever heard anyone talk about thatevent....that will be HUGE!I don't take what you are saying personally,Eagle. I know that it is frustrating at timesto know a great deal about a subject and yet havefolks who are not yet up-to-speed spouting theorieswhen they don't have all the facts....just bepatient. Thanks for contributing these facts,tho. Very interesting!Cheers!SK

The planet Saturn is the Bad Guy in Vedic Astrology. It is called 'the Great Malefic', because it is the significator of so many undesirable aspects of the human plane. Saturn gives us difficulties, misfortune, suffering, even death. It has a non-negotiable quality as well. Saturn represents karma that we can't get out of. Since it is an integral part of this Earthly realm, and each of us has to deal with what it represents in our life, it behooves us to know more about Saturn's functioning and understand our relationship with it.

Everything on this Earth is bound by Time. Even the seemingly eternal mountains must inevitably disappear. The Infinite Spirit incarnates into this realm, appearing as Forms. Amongst these forms, Spirit incarnates as human consciousness, encapsulated within human form: the body. The formless infinite submits to the limitations of this plane of existence to experience the interplay of forms, to know itself.

In Vedic Astrology, we look to the map of the Heavens as a representation of our life's karma. But where is the Earth represented in this map? It is represented by Saturn. In Vedic Astrology, Saturn stands in for our planet, the Earth, the Playground of Forms. The individual Soul, due to its karma, is attracted to this playground and gets sucked into it for the sake of the experience. Saturn is that which first attracts, then restricts, encapsulates, the eternal consciousness; Saturn 'traps' the Soul in Form. This limitation of what is naturally infinite is experienced as suffering. Thus Saturn comes to represent the energy of suffering in astrology.

Obviously many of Earth's experiences are quite enjoyable. But all of these pleasures are temporary, and like our bodies, all are limited by time, by Saturn. Even the pleasures bring suffering by their eventual denial through Saturn's functioning. Saturn is Maya: the play of forms. Instinctively the entrapped soul seeks permanence and stability on this Earthly plane, and feels betrayed by the temporal nature of Human Life.

How do we deal with the energy of Saturn? You are a prisoner of Saturn's world of forms only if you identify with it. This is the dilemma of human consciousness: how to get out of prison by dis-identifying with forms, including the one you are residing in. From this need has arisen all of the various spiritual paths, yogic techniques, meditation techniques, etc. Forms originate from Spirit, and yet as an individuated piece of Spirit each of us somehow falls into the illusion that our personal form, our mind, and our feeling, are all that we are. We are each asleep in this dream of forms, unaware of the true nature of it all, and of ourselves.

Thus Saturn becomes the Teacher, teaching the soul through the lessons of limitation, of attraction and negation, desire and denial. Through this adversity the soul is forced to grow, to learn the reality of incarnation, to understand how it is that the Eternal must manifest in the world of limitation in order to know itself. Our identification with our human incarnation, and the amnesia about our original nature as pure consciousness, is part of the 'set-up' designed to compel the soul to take the lessons seriously. This seriousness too, is a function of Saturn.

In the personal Vedic Birth Chart, the position of Saturn and what it is influencing shows what lessons are especially emphasized, where the most concrete limitations are to be experienced in this lifetime, where there is the most intense identification with form that must be overcome for the soul to realize its original nature. Understanding the true situation of human consciousness, and its underlying connection with all that is, helps you to let go of the identification with the world of forms, to wake up from the dream. In this way we come to terms with Saturn, and are no longer defeated by the suffering, the world of illusions, that this planet represents.

Ron Berger on "Vedic Astrology/Saturn"Living Your Life Skillfully with Vedic Astrology"(Vedic is from Indian tradition of astrology/medicinegoing back before the time of Christ.)

Quoting: SilentlyKnowing

Your name suits you less than ANY other in GLP history. ; )

I mean no offense, but wow...a LOt of jibber jabber up in here for being so silent about your knowings...

The planet Saturn is the Bad Guy in Vedic Astrology. It is called 'the Great Malefic', because it is the significator of so many undesirable aspects of the human plane. Saturn gives us difficulties, misfortune, suffering, even death. It has a non-negotiable quality as well. Saturn represents karma that we can't get out of. Since it is an integral part of this Earthly realm, and each of us has to deal with what it represents in our life, it behooves us to know more about Saturn's functioning and understand our relationship with it.

Everything on this Earth is bound by Time. Even the seemingly eternal mountains must inevitably disappear. The Infinite Spirit incarnates into this realm, appearing as Forms. Amongst these forms, Spirit incarnates as human consciousness, encapsulated within human form: the body. The formless infinite submits to the limitations of this plane of existence to experience the interplay of forms, to know itself.

In Vedic Astrology, we look to the map of the Heavens as a representation of our life's karma. But where is the Earth represented in this map? It is represented by Saturn. In Vedic Astrology, Saturn stands in for our planet, the Earth, the Playground of Forms. The individual Soul, due to its karma, is attracted to this playground and gets sucked into it for the sake of the experience. Saturn is that which first attracts, then restricts, encapsulates, the eternal consciousness; Saturn 'traps' the Soul in Form. This limitation of what is naturally infinite is experienced as suffering. Thus Saturn comes to represent the energy of suffering in astrology.

Obviously many of Earth's experiences are quite enjoyable. But all of these pleasures are temporary, and like our bodies, all are limited by time, by Saturn. Even the pleasures bring suffering by their eventual denial through Saturn's functioning. Saturn is Maya: the play of forms. Instinctively the entrapped soul seeks permanence and stability on this Earthly plane, and feels betrayed by the temporal nature of Human Life.

How do we deal with the energy of Saturn? You are a prisoner of Saturn's world of forms only if you identify with it. This is the dilemma of human consciousness: how to get out of prison by dis-identifying with forms, including the one you are residing in. From this need has arisen all of the various spiritual paths, yogic techniques, meditation techniques, etc. Forms originate from Spirit, and yet as an individuated piece of Spirit each of us somehow falls into the illusion that our personal form, our mind, and our feeling, are all that we are. We are each asleep in this dream of forms, unaware of the true nature of it all, and of ourselves.

Thus Saturn becomes the Teacher, teaching the soul through the lessons of limitation, of attraction and negation, desire and denial. Through this adversity the soul is forced to grow, to learn the reality of incarnation, to understand how it is that the Eternal must manifest in the world of limitation in order to know itself. Our identification with our human incarnation, and the amnesia about our original nature as pure consciousness, is part of the 'set-up' designed to compel the soul to take the lessons seriously. This seriousness too, is a function of Saturn.

In the personal Vedic Birth Chart, the position of Saturn and what it is influencing shows what lessons are especially emphasized, where the most concrete limitations are to be experienced in this lifetime, where there is the most intense identification with form that must be overcome for the soul to realize its original nature. Understanding the true situation of human consciousness, and its underlying connection with all that is, helps you to let go of the identification with the world of forms, to wake up from the dream. In this way we come to terms with Saturn, and are no longer defeated by the suffering, the world of illusions, that this planet represents.

Ron Berger on "Vedic Astrology/Saturn"Living Your Life Skillfully with Vedic Astrology"(Vedic is from Indian tradition of astrology/medicinegoing back before the time of Christ.)

Quoting: SilentlyKnowing

Your name suits you less than ANY other in GLP history. ; )

I mean no offense, but wow...a LOt of jibber jabber up in here for being so silent about your knowings...

Sorry. 8 days not December the 8th. I'm just so excited about all of this. You guys nailed it. Also the numbers 12-3-12 are 333. Very powerful. 33rd Meridian.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21836117

12-3-12 =333=912-12-12=333=912-21-12=333=9

There are 9 days between 12-3, 12-12, and 12-21....perfect triangulation.

12-3-2012 =1112-12-2012=1112-21-2012=11

=33

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28466199

DANG....AC...THAT'S JUST INCREDIBLE.The ancient Egyptians...or whomever were THEIR predacessors sure knew alot aboutnumbers.I just love this kind of thing!Thanks you for pointing this out!Keep going! You're really on to something here!Cheers!SK

I read about this and posted it on my facebook yesterday.. sounds interesting that is for sure.. I had a picture I wanted to upload to GLP but it was too big, so couldn't.. too bad, because it's an artist's rendition that shows the 3 planets lined up above the three pyramids in Giza at about 1 hour before sunup Giza time on December the 3rd.

If it looks even half as spectacular as the rendition, the place to be to see this alignment would be Giza with an eastward view toward the three pyramids.

Quoting: my2centsworth

Quote: "The first thing I did when I saw this was ask: is there really going to be a close conjunction of three planets on December 3rd?

The answer is yes! Mercury, Venus, and Saturn will all be within a relatively small distance of each other in the sky on that date. This isn’t a particularly tight configuration like Venus and Jupiter were earlier this year – in this case, they’ll be 14 degrees apart, nearly 30 times the width of the full Moon on the sky – but it’s still pretty nifty.

The second thing I did, though, was ask myself: will they really look like that in the sky as seen from Giza?

Interesting article...but I don't think thatyou read it thoroughly! Did you watch the DannyWilten video? I don't think you did that either!lol!First of all...Danny Wilten doesn't just get onthe horn and spout some "theory" about the supposedalignment....No...he keeps the camera on the screenof his own computer as he TAKES THE VIEWER step- by-step through the process of seeing how the alignmentis going to work (he uses a different sky-globe computerprogram than this guy who wrote the Blog uses todebunk this with! lol!) But, then Danny Wilten goesa step further--HE IS NO AMATEUR AT ANALYZING PHOTOS....HE HAS 3 YEARS IN RESERACHING NASA PICS OF ORIONAND HE'S A MASTER AT IT!So, he takes what he finds on the computer programfor the star-map of the alignment (yes, they are ina line-up)...then he does an OVER-LAY transparencytaking the pic from the sky-map and putting thegoogle-earth pic of the 3 pyramids at Giza from theair. THEY MATCH--not exactly perfect, of course,as there is going to be some distortion using photoson photos...but he does NOT photoshop anything in thisprocess. YOU ARE WATCHING WHAT HE IS DOING IN THE VIDEO!

Also...the article itself is NOT debunking the actualline-up nor the alignment being over the tops of thepyramids...THE WRITER IS DEBUNKING A PICTURE--APHOTOSHOPPED PICTURE--THAT HAS GONE VIRAL ON THE INTERNET!Wilten could have used this picture and just qualifiedit by saying: "This is what it SHOULD KINDOF LOOK LIKE..."(or something like that.....) but he chooses to do thewhole process himself using his own equipment.And lastly, the guy writing your article says thisat the very bottom of the "debunking" of the picture:

Don’t get me wrong: it would actually be pretty cool to see this planetary/pyramid alignment. Someone putting themself at just the right place to the northwest at just the right time might be able to get the three planets aligned with the three pyramids. That would be very pretty, and I’d love to see it personally! But I wouldn’t assign any spiritual significance to it beyond that.

So, he is essentially admitting that THERE IS A LOCATIONwhere this alignment over the pyramids will take placeand he's actually asking anyone who is over in EGYPTTO SEND HIM A PICTURE OF IT! LOL! Hey, dude! You can'thave it both ways...."No it won't line up like that....and then say "Yes, it will line up like that and pleasesend me a picture! WTF????That's really funny!So....watch the videos I posted on page 1 and thensee what you think. I'm NOT here to convince anyoneof anything....I am just excited because Danny Wiltenhas done a departure from his ususal research to bringthis info forward--and I for one, think that itsWAY WAY COOL...AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ALERT TO WHATEVERTHE SPIRITUAL/POLITICAL/PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT is goingto be!!Thanks for posting anyways, keep digging!Cheers!SK

P.S. A.C. there are FREE programs on the internet toget the picture you want the correct size for GLPto load as a custom "smilie." They are called:"Resize my Picture" and there are dozens of them.Here is the one that I have been using for mysmilies! Enjoy! [link to www.picresize.com]

From 21st December to 2012 I counted 13 months. November 2011, the mayan crystal skull ceremony (with 13 skulls). I also considered the last 13 years, back to 1999, the eclipse on august that year was predicted by the mayans and held some importance..

I also counted the last 13 centuries..And the last 13.000 years.

13.000 years ago was 10.988 B.C.

Thanks for the thread.

Quoting: 1908247

UNBELIEVABLE SYNCHRONICITY, MV8!Thanks for that heads-up!There are alot of folks--and I have seen thison GLP and other places--who just DO NOT"get" the significance of numbers in theGreat Scheme of Things! I had my feelingsof doubt when I first started to come to GLPthat all these guys who were dinking aroundwith numbers, adding, subtracting, making theseleaps of faith in predictions based of numerical"clues"--it just didn't "synch" with me back then.

Then...happily, I ran into this guy, Danny Wilten'sresearch. He explained TWO REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME....the ideas of "fractals"--repeatingpatterns in numbers, nature, chemical reactions,even our own human bodies--which I FINALLY 'GOT!'The other was a posted video by a wonderfullygifted man named: Nassim Harremine. (Both of thosedeals are on the "Wow! 'Celestial' Nile Discovered.This will blow your mind!" thread (authored byAbhie 7/07/12 and linked in the Leonardo thread also.)Thread: WOW!! - 'Celestial' Nile Discovered!!! This is going to blow your mind! (Page 4)Harremine talks about his long journey in discovering"fractals" and the idea of "singularity"--which soundlike a HUGE COMPLEX THEORY...but a 3rd grader cancomprehend it listening to Nissam! EXCELLENT teacher,this guy! I think this is REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT, MV8 thatWilten is giving us the "heads-up" about December 3rd.The two videos are each about 10 minutes long and arevery well presented, I'm really glad that I was ableto find them and have this information.Thanks again for posting!Cheers!SK

Quoting: SilentlyKnowing

AND I QUOTE!!!! "There are alot of folks--and I have seen thison GLP and other places--who just DO NOT"get" the significance of numbers in theGreat Scheme of Things!"

You like numbers and their significance !! The math correlated with the bible blows this math you have here AWAW! AS IN BEYOND HUMAN COMPREHENSION !!

I read about this and posted it on my facebook yesterday.. sounds interesting that is for sure.. I had a picture I wanted to upload to GLP but it was too big, so couldn't.. too bad, because it's an artist's rendition that shows the 3 planets lined up above the three pyramids in Giza at about 1 hour before sunup Giza time on December the 3rd.

If it looks even half as spectacular as the rendition, the place to be to see this alignment would be Giza with an eastward view toward the three pyramids.

Quoting: my2centsworth

Quote: "The first thing I did when I saw this was ask: is there really going to be a close conjunction of three planets on December 3rd?

The answer is yes! Mercury, Venus, and Saturn will all be within a relatively small distance of each other in the sky on that date. This isn’t a particularly tight configuration like Venus and Jupiter were earlier this year – in this case, they’ll be 14 degrees apart, nearly 30 times the width of the full Moon on the sky – but it’s still pretty nifty.

The second thing I did, though, was ask myself: will they really look like that in the sky as seen from Giza?

Ha ha ha I have to laugh somtimes. Ya your right they won't look exactely like that because thats an artists rendering. Just like when an arcitect makes a drawing of a house not yet built. You have to walk around the other side for it to look like that. Plus of course there were no pictures being taken in that day and age. Is that going to be the one thing thats going to be used to debunk this. Fools.

Everybody is entitled to their beliefs. Whatever. The alignments there. The pyramids are there and the date adds up to alot and from alot of different sources.

I don't think they went to all the trouble to build those pyramids for no apparent reason.

Maybe there's somthing to the Muslim Brotherhood wanting to tear those pyramids down in the first place. Too late now.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21836117

Yes, A.C.I looked at the article this poster thinks is going to debunk the thread....NOT.The gist of the author for the article she/heis referring to is that a photoshopped picturewent "viral" on the internet this week andthe author is just trying to point out thatIF THIS PICTURE is evidence of the line-upwith the planets and the pyramids--it DOESN'TFLY. Well...you nailed it, A.C. ha! ha!The photo couldn't be of an alignment that occuredin Egypt in 10,900 B.C.--and it HASN'T HAPPENEDYET for it to be Giza in 12-03-12...so it MUSTBE a SIMULATION PICTURE!Read my answer to her/his post and you'll see thatthe author ADMITS IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH....thathe isn't even SURE IF IT WILL OR WILL NOT HAPPEN...and then--THIS IS HELARIOUS--he requests thatanyone in Egypt who DOES GET THE PHOTO of theplanets over the pyramids..."PLEASE SEND ME A COPY!"What a friggin' riot! lol!Anyways....I am going to try to get my headput on straight this week, do some extra meditationsand walks out in NATURE so that I am in a centeredplace in my own spirit for 12-03-12. Kindof do a"SPIRITUAL BUFF-UP" to get ready.If NOTHING happens, so be it....but my instinctstell me that SOMETHING (even a political false-flagfor the illuminati to celebrate their little club)WILL HAPPEN. I'm betting on something WONDERFUL.Cheers!SK