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I already preordered a PS4 from Amazon, though there's a good chance that I'll cancel it later. I have a Sony rewards credit card that I'm saving points up on, and I plan to see if I can get it for a good discount, if not for free

Look, I'm a dad that loves his kids and they deserve it -- they work hard in school, pull great grades, do their chores around the house and are respectful of themselves and others. But there's a limit to how far I'll go to indulge them. With a starting price of $499 -- yeah, I learned that the price of the platform was just the start when I bought Alex xBox 360 -- there's no way I'm going to shell out those kinds of bucks. I know I'm a dinosaur when I say I was happy with a yo-yo and a Slinky when I was a kid. But I think things have just gotten carried away. For adult gamers that want to splurge on this, I say "Go for it." But for parents that are already shouldering the huge costs of raising children, I just think this goes over the line and shows that these guys have little concern for for what parents go through. And yes, I get that I can just say no. But parents do find themselves pressured because other kids have something and theirs do not. I also get that business is business, but that doesn't mean business always has to seek out more and more expensive ways of separating parents from their hard-earned bucks.

Look, I'm a dad that loves his kids and they deserve it -- they work hard in school, pull great grades, do their chores around the house and are respectful of themselves and others. But there's a limit to how far I'll go to indulge them. With a starting price of $499 -- yeah, I learned that the price of the platform was just the start when I bought Alex xBox 360 -- there's no way I'm going to shell out those kinds of bucks. I know I'm a dinosaur when I say I was happy with a yo-yo and a Slinky when I was a kid. But I think things have just gotten carried away. For adult gamers that want to splurge on this, I say "Go for it." But for parents that are already shouldering the huge costs of raising children, I just think this goes over the line and shows that these guys have little concern for for what parents go through. And yes, I get that I can just say no. But parents do find themselves pressured because other kids have something and theirs do not. I also get that business is business, but that doesn't mean business always has to seek out more and more expensive ways of separating parents from their hard-earned bucks.

I definitely feel like it must be hard to be a parent in this day and age. How do you keep your kids active? I used to walk long distances to the mall to visit the arcade. I got my exercise for the day as well as my gaming fix

Look, I'm a dad that loves his kids and they deserve it -- they work hard in school, pull great grades, do their chores around the house and are respectful of themselves and others. But there's a limit to how far I'll go to indulge them. With a starting price of $499 -- yeah, I learned that the price of the platform was just the start when I bought Alex xBox 360 -- there's no way I'm going to shell out those kinds of bucks. I know I'm a dinosaur when I say I was happy with a yo-yo and a Slinky when I was a kid. But I think things have just gotten carried away. For adult gamers that want to splurge on this, I say "Go for it." But for parents that are already shouldering the huge costs of raising children, I just think this goes over the line and shows that these guys have little concern for for what parents go through. And yes, I get that I can just say no. But parents do find themselves pressured because other kids have something and theirs do not. I also get that business is business, but that doesn't mean business always has to seek out more and more expensive ways of separating parents from their hard-earned bucks.

Honestly I think most in your predicament, being married with kids, and responsibilities will go to PS4 or Wii U or PC.
I actually think most people will do that. Between the high price, the fact that you can't trade games in without publisher
approval, and even then only at select retailers, the once every 24 hour internet check ins a lot will skip this.
Then you have the concerns over Kinect 2.0's ability to decipher expressions, heart rate, temp, that it sees/hears everything
when it's on. With all of these NSA scandals in the news a lot of folks have 1984 proportioned worries.
Oh, and it will only work in 21 countries at launch. JAPAN ISN'T ONE OF THEM!?!?!?!?!?!?
Titanfall looks awesome, some look forward to Killer Instinct, and Halo 5 but with all of these problems I don't think they'll
save it. I fully expect all of the gadget addicts to fill the preorders, but after launch I don't see this doing well at all.
Even if NONE of those things were to upset you, and you wanted it anyway, consider the space Kinect 2.0 is going to require
to work properly even after the tweaks they made.

I'm staying on PC. Really wanted to like the XB1 but there's no way I'm buying it. PS4 I'm not interested in the exclusives, and the
multiplats are hitting PC anyway. But at some point I may nab it if exclusives hit I might like. I'll get a Wii U eventually because
I do love me some Super Smash Bros.. Wonderful 101, and Bayonetta 2 look like must plays.

The Deviot
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"No matter how hot you think they are, Someone. Somewhere. Is tired of their crap."

Enough people said they weren't going to buy the console at all, so they backed off. Between my PC, my WII U, and the games I still have to play through on the Ps3 (ps2 for that matter) the Wii U might be the last console I buy for the foreseeable future. I just don't have time to play through games like I used to. That and been having issue with how some of the games have gone lately. Final Fantasy has become way too focused on story where you read story for hours and not actually play the game. The new game does seem to be a few step forwards gameplay wise, but I still typically had more fun with turn based versions of the game.

One Gum Drop to rule them all, One Gum Drop to find them,
One Gum Drop to bring them all and in the sweetness bind them
In the Land of Candy where the Gingerbreads lie.
-Tag line for the Candy Land Movie Adaptation

How about getting a bunch of guys together on Saturday for a real game of basketball on a real playground court? Cheaper, more laughs and good for the body as well.

Originally Posted by wyldman11

Enough people said they weren't going to buy the console at all, so they backed off. Between my PC, my WII U, and the games I still have to play through on the Ps3 (ps2 for that matter) the Wii U might be the last console I buy for the foreseeable future. I just don't have time to play through games like I used to. That and been having issue with how some of the games have gone lately. Final Fantasy has become way too focused on story where you read story for hours and not actually play the game. The new game does seem to be a few step forwards gameplay wise, but I still typically had more fun with turn based versions of the game.

How about getting a bunch of guys together on Saturday for a real game of basketball on a real playground court? Cheaper, more laughs and good for the body as well.

Up through college I would actually get together with friends from the neighborhood or around town and a few times a week would play whatever sport game we wanted for 4 or 5 hours at a time.

My current job though I am on my feet for 8 hours a day so, sitting feels really good at the end of the day or on my days 'off'. Days off being with the church were we have planned in game event nights every other month, playing it every night was just causing problems. I was also riding my bike every day last year before taking this job. Right working on getting some reading in each night.

games to me were important but more just relaxation time for me, when I didn't have a book to read.

One Gum Drop to rule them all, One Gum Drop to find them,
One Gum Drop to bring them all and in the sweetness bind them
In the Land of Candy where the Gingerbreads lie.
-Tag line for the Candy Land Movie Adaptation

I know the feeling, Wyldman. Life has a way of overtaking us, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by wyldman11

Up through college I would actually get together with friends from the neighborhood or around town and a few times a week would play whatever sport game we wanted for 4 or 5 hours at a time.

My current job though I am on my feet for 8 hours a day so, sitting feels really good at the end of the day or on my days 'off'. Days off being with the church were we have planned in game event nights every other month, playing it every night was just causing problems. I was also riding my bike every day last year before taking this job. Right working on getting some reading in each night.

games to me were important but more just relaxation time for me, when I didn't have a book to read.