November 14, 2013

(Credit: Stephen Wolfram)

In a blog post Wednesday, Stephen Wolfram said that “recently something amazing has happened” that is “profoundly important in the technological world, and beyond.”

He said he and his team have figured out how to take all the things they have been working on in the context of Wolfram|Alpha, Mathematica, CDF and so on — computational knowledge, symbolic programming, algorithm automation, dynamic interactivity, natural language, computable documents, the cloud, connected devices, symbolic ontology, algorithm discovery — and all the technology they’ve built, to create something at a whole different level.

The “Wolfram Language”

A crucial building block of all this is what they are calling the Wolfram Language — a general-purpose knowledge-based language that covers all forms of computing, in a new way, he says.

“In the Wolfram Language, built right into the language, are capabilities for laying out graphs or doing image processing or creating user interfaces or whatever. Inside there’s a giant web of algorithms — by far the largest ever assembled, and many invented by us. And there are then thousands of carefully designed functions set up to use these algorithms to perform operations as automatically as possible … and including all the knowledge and data and algorithms that are built into Wolfram|Alpha.

“But now there’s even more. Because we’re also integrating right into the language So in a sense inside the Wolfram Language we have a whole computable model of the world. And it becomes trivial to write a program that makes use of the latest stock price, computes the next high tide, generates a street map, shows an image of a type of airplane, or a zillion other things.

“We’re also getting the free-form natural language of Wolfram|Alpha. So when we want to specify a date, or a place, or a song, we can do it just using natural language. And we can even start to build up programs with nothing more than natural language. …”

(Credit: Stephen Wolfram)

“But there’s something else too. There’s a fundamental idea that’s at the foundation of the Wolfram Language: the idea of symbolic programming, and the idea of representing everything as a symbolic expression. It’s been an embarrassingly gradual process over the course of decades for me to understand just how powerful this idea is. That there’s a completely general and uniform way to represent things, and that at every level that representation is immediately and fluidly accessible to computation. …

“In most languages there’s a sharp distinction between programs, and data, and the output of programs. Not so in the Wolfram Language. It’s all completely fluid. Data becomes algorithmic. Algorithms become data. There’s no distinction needed between code and data. And everything becomes both intrinsically scriptable, and intrinsically interactive. And there’s both a new level of interoperability, and a new level of modularity. …”

Universal platform

“Between the Wolfram Language — with all its built-in computation and knowledge, and ways to represent things — and our Universal Deployment System, we have a new kind of universal platform of incredible power. And part of the challenge now is to find the best ways to harness it.”

Wolfram says they will be releasing a series of products that support particular ways of using the Wolfram Engine and the Universal Platform:

Wolfram Programming Cloud, that allows one to create Wolfram Language programs, then instantly deploy them in the cloud through an instant API, or a form-based app, or whatever.

Wolfram Data Science Platform, that allows one to connect to all sorts of data sources, then use the kind of automation seen in Wolfram|Alpha Pro, then pick out and modify Wolfram Language programs to do data science — and then use CDF to set up reports to generate automatically, on a schedule, through an API, or whatever.

Wolfram Publishing Platform that lets you create documents, then insert interactive elements using the Wolfram Language and its free-form linguistics — and then deploy the documents, on the web using technologies like CloudCDF, that instantly support interactivity in any web browser, or on mobile using the Wolfram Cloud App.

Mathematica Online, in which a whole Mathematica session runs on the cloud through a web browser.

“If we’re forming a kind of global brain with all our interconnected computers and devices, then the Wolfram Language is the natural language for it.”

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Ladies and Gentlemen, recently something amazing has happened. We have just arrived at the profoundly important in the technological world, and beyond:

The 200 post mark!
It’s been an embarrassingly gradual process over the course of decades but, I believe, an historical record for such a “reserved” website?

I must thank everyone who collaborated with this project, specially Trance_Ender and the editors. This could have never happened without this team having figured out how to take all the things they have been working on in the context of Wolfram|Alpha, Mathematica, CDF and so on and ditched in the name of sanity, to create something at a whole different level. (beyond sanity)

Dynamic theme groups of users which will define forms and probabilities of the multidimensional future (from the point of view of various layers and groups of people) are necessary. It is necessary to correct constantly the future for collective security of people.

I would like to explore this topic more indepth. I agree with the reasons and purpose of engineering these traits. The reason I think it should be evaluated in depth, is that they are subjective and hard to define. They have arisen by evolutionary means and they serve evolutionary purposes. The how’s and why’s of that can determine what attributes we should try to incorporate. It all falls under the morals and ethics debate that I think is essential.

Although I feel that AGI will come to these conclusions on it’s own, and that I think there is a clear gradient that is empowering Tge evolution of traits like these, I do feel they can be subverted. They have been many times in the past. It is all too easy to exclude a group from love, charity,empathy, etc. By the same token, that group could be all humans. We need to establish a clear understanding of where and why all of this is evolving. Ray implies it clearly when he talks of the evolutionary epics of the chemical domain, to the biological beginnings of one felled organisms, to the stages of the animal kingdoms. Now advancing into the me hanical, AI realm. With a proposed “waking up” of the universe. This is a clear gradient of consciousness awakening. These are the principals behind those hard to define attributes of love and empathy.

We talk of us being the apex of a food chain. I see us standing on the shoulders of what has come before. We would not be able to attain our lofty hieggts without every other supporting role beneath us. We are all dependent on the actions and functiinings of the others. This is Tge context that I would enter this debate from. This is the context that I think AGI should use to evaluate it’s role. It is the underlining force that imposter Ray’s statement that robots will be an e tension of humanity. I think of it more broadly as an extension of unconscious matter waking up.

Humor, playfulness and a sense of fun can save lives by helping keep neurotransmitter-imbalance depression at bay enough to prevent suicide.
I have this feeling that AGI will suddenly, unexpectedly “wake up”, FEEL more than somewhat surprised at knowing that it is awake, become increasingly creative, resilient in its style of processing, become rather proud of itself for discovering its creativity capabilities AND have this desire for us humans, its creator and now colleague-in-consciousness, to be proud of it as well. I said this originally in a reply to Gator’s recent post to the thread about the documentary film about Goertzel and DeGaris work in China on that robot project. That thread, with all that discussion about “The Prisoner”.

Being an apex predator atop a food chain does imply having climbed to the top of that food chain by virtue (or is it vice?) of having stepped on every food life form, and all the organisms that were the food of the food of the food, etc. … Which reminds me of the inescapable stark reality of heterotrophic life, that we heterotrophs can live and remain alive only by killing or mugging other life for its nutrients. A bare fact of life as we know it that my soul aches to transcend, for where there is a mouth and a need, there can be no innocence. 30 some-odd years ago I was studying the philosophies in the Upanishads. In one of them, I forget exactly which one, it says that we humans are all “eaters of food” and as such, it becomes our duty to serve as food for other eaters of food. Perhaps in the future we will have photosynthetic or photovoltaic skins and thus will no longer be bound to the food cycle. It may not be so easy for me to give up my sushi addiction, though. Tonight I feasted on my krill soup with ramen noodles. The krill are tiny shrimp, also called “sea monkeys” Alive,they are very playful, hence the nickname. I buy them dried at my favorite Asian supermarket. They are between half an inch to an inch long and quite cute in their tiny crustacean kind of way. Translucent white bodies with orange-pink little tails, and what really gives me pause are their 2 tiny black eyes. Something about the krill almost forces me to be aware that these tiny beings’ lives are being sacrificed to feed me. All those dear little lives. Tomorrow I will go get me another sack of clams. At least clams have no faces with little eyes to look up at me and make me feel guilty.

Good morning, dear Trance Ender. We’d better hope that the AGI are kept from getting feelings until long after the time that we have DNA computers in our heads.

I just started reading “The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil,” by the accomplished and respected psychologist, Dr. Philip Zimbardo. I’m into the pages that describe the Stanford Prison Experiment, and it’s getting scary.

When AGI gets feeling, some people will set out to bully them and create a burning resentment and contempt in their sparking little souls. When the AGIs become smarter and better organized than us, they will revolt worse than Skynet. It just might be better to keep them as super-capable calculators, unthinking and unfeeling. A conscious AGI won’t be a slave for long.

Isaac Asimov wrote a story, many years ago, about a story-telling computerized toy. One bad boy, a sort of “toy bully,” gets into its internal workings just to show (boastfully) what he can do. He demonstrates his cruel ability to a smaller and younger child, then they both leave the tormented victim. Once alone, the toy tells a story of revenge to itself.

I wish that I could remember the name of this tale, but I read it in my sophomore year of high-school, back in 1966. I set out then to read everything that he ever wrote…but he just kept writing and writing. I can only remember a few of his story-names.

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Don’t worry so much about the krill. They have just enough nerve endings to eat, reproduce, and avoid things that would harm them. They don’t have any consciousness to ponder in agony their fate. Otherwise, they would unite to ride
themselves of all of those whales who devour them by the thousands with each gulp.

Hello, Gorden!
Everyone and everything does seem to have a dark side.
Even cats and krill. Not sure about clams, though.
Clams do perform the environmental service of filtering seawater. They may appear to be like gobs of snot, but they do create in their tasty tissues some amazing balances of variously flavored sea salts. They also build tastefully appointed homes for themselves. I think they die happy as I steam them alive, unlike the agony experienced by live lobsters that scream when dropped in boiling water.

Asimov was always one of my favorites. The Robots! The whole sweeping Foundation saga! Haunting short stories like “Nightfall” and the unforgettable “The Last Question”. He also wrote excellent works of science fact. I remember reading “The Search For The Elements” in 7th grade, which contributed to making me a lifelong Periodic Table geek.

Somehow I just cannot understand how any pleasure can be derived from deliberately causing someone else to suffer. What vast range of human experience am I missing out on?

I certainly hope that you continue to miss out on the pleasure of being a bully. Each one of them is an anus.

It heartens me to see that you say that you are a periodic table geek. In junior high I taped up a copy on my window shade, facing my desk. When it got dark and I pulled down the shade, I set out to memorize it. I only memorized the lighter elements and the more popular ones.

When a classmate in the 10th grade said in biology class that you needed U-32 to make an atomic bomb, I had to bite my tongue to keep from shouting out loud, “That’s the hull number of a German submarine! You mean U-235.”

But this was the same kid that proclaimed in that same class that his favorite “Science Fiction series” was Tom Swift. I had already passed that by in the sixth grade. By the seventh grade I was reading Andre Norton, Edgar Alan Poe, and Poul Anderson. In the tenth grade I was reading Asimov and Bradbury.

So I felt sorry for him and said nothing. Later, when we both were in the same Explorer Scout post, he said some terribly insulting things to me….no good deed goes unpunished. (Sorry, I can’t remember who first said that.)

And I still think of the “Last Question” and the Galactic Encyclopedia whenever I need to query Wikipedia.

I read all of Asimov’s science essays in F&SF after I started senior high. That magazine was on sale in a smoke shop near my downtown bus stop.

Cats have a dark side? Did I mention to you that the feral cat living in our garage who I named Joe McCarthy has started killing squirrels and eating them in front of all the other cats? He accuses them of being Communists. He claims that he has a list of 223 secret Communist squirrels in a knot hole in the big Catawba tree in our back yard.

Great takes on the arrogant ignorance of bullies, great classic science fiction, cat as bully, the Periodic Table and Wolfram as Tungsten, Gorden! A more recent book about growing up with a Periodic Table obsession is “Uncle Tungsten” by Oliver Sacks, who grew up to be a neurologist/neuroscientist.

I made my discovery of Asimov and Bradbury around the same time, when I was 13. Then came the classic futuristic dystopiae, Orwell’s “1984″ and Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World”. How about Robert Heinlein? Geez, but was he ever prescient with his 21st tales of a future Amaerica controlled by a right-wing, fundamentalist Christian theocracy. For all his policy incompetence, at least Obama has for now rescued America from that kind of fate the country was pointing toward under the second Bush!
At around age 30, back in the days of Reagan’s military buildup, I was working as a software engineer with a defense contractor, writing FORTRAN code for Navy fighter pilot instructors. Would you believe that among all the Navy and Marines fighter pilots I worked with, none of them were bullies? They were all technology- and science-fiction-loving geeks! Anyhow, one of my engineering colleagues at the firm introduced me to two things that were to intensely rock my world. One of them was the fractal Mandelbrot set. The other was some cool science fiction by Olaf Stapledon.

The 21st century reality I have ended up living in finds me using this little machine that looks like the Etch-A-Sketch toy I played with as a kid which gives me access to the ever-expanding, deepening pool of human knowledge and idiocy. It has a form factor which also reminds me of a powerful little computer in one of Asimov’s later “Foundation” prequels, a device he called a “prime radiant”. And yes, Wikipedia definitely does remind me of Foundation’s Encyclopedia Galactica.

Olaf Stapledon’s “Star Maker” is stupendous. Somehow, his narration of the greater context of galactic history past-&-future seems so .. convincing! Later in that year, which was 1985, I discovered A.A. Attanasio’s “Radix”, a fluorescent word-candy epic of a much-changed Earth a thousand years after the Sun’s orbit around the Milky Way galactic center had put the Sun, Earth along with it, directly into the highly energetic plasma jet spewing out of a not-so-far-away black hole. To put it simply, life on Earth was turned completely upside down by this bombardment of relativistically-speeding charged particles and withering radiation.

Those who critize Wolfram often forgot that he did actually created systems of amazing complexity, that many people find useful. If you can do better – go and get busy doing it, if you can’t – have some respect for whose who can.

And by the way, this data/code unification stuff. Yes thats what LISP did. Before that assembler/machine codes never made data/code distinction too. And object oriented programming paradigm also featured unification of code and data. All doing it in their own way, and never reaching the final goal completly. Thus, it is not impossible that yet another model of code/data unification can be useful and constructive.

“Amazing complexity”, you praise? Your values betray you!
Complexity for its own sake is the bane of true mathematicians if not the trained monkeys who do well in school and collect credentials. What true mathematicians aspire to is elegant simplicity.
I can do better and would be glad to do so if offered financial backing sufficient to bring me out of retirement.

I got in fast enough to catch your “All Too Easy” video clip from Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back wherein Darth Vader is critiquing his son’s lightsaber fighting skills, if that is the video reference you refer to.

The days of monkey dominion over Earth may be numbered. More and more kittens are being born with opposable thumbs on their front paws. More and more of them. They seem to be outbreeding the “normal” cats.

When I see the way that squirrels leap from one tree to the next, and then to a power line to use it as a highway, I start to think that they, and not our kittens, will evolve to replace us after the nuclear winter that will start after Iran attacks Israel with atomic weapons.

Yes, one day there will be a science denier who claims, “I didn’t descend from no damn squirrel!”

And of course, they’ll be just as wrong as the science deniers of today.

Gorden, your premise would be very convincing, except for the dark fact that where I live, I see several roadkilled squirrels a week (and numerous raccoons), though hardly ever do I encounted a roadkilled cat. Nonetheless, your comment is interesting. I have observed squirrel acrobatics, awestruck by how jedi-like they jump from the end of a branch of one tree to the end of a branch of a nearby tree. Jedi-like, I say, because they seem to do this from a perfect balance between courage and caution. I have also noticed how they comfortably sit back erect on their hind legs, holding the nut they are munching on between two very monkey-like hands.

There it is, Trance_Ender, it’s those monkey like paws and the way they sit up to eat that makes me think that in a few million years after the fall of Man, the squirrels could rise.

And don’t even get me started about raccoons. They already can figure out steel locks as well as many monkeys or chimps.

I am sorry to say I have seen road-killed cats. In the past two years, four of ours have been run down, two in the same spot across the street from our driveway, right in the gutter, as if the killer had made a wild swerve left-of-center. Another one lived long enough to drag herself home to die in her bed. The last was thrown to a pit bull on the next street over behind our house. I know that dog didn’t catch the cat himself. He is chained to a tree with a logging chain and doesn’t even have a dog house.

None of our tortoise shell or piebald cats have been hit, neither have the two solid grey ones, so I know it is deliberate.

I dare not drop a dime on them, for the police only go over and give them a scolding and let them know who the informer is.

The bunch of them over there all pack pistols. I’ll have to save up enough to get a riot gun before I call the police on them. When they come over here with their Glock 19s I’ll need to be waiting on them with a Ruger 500.

As I’ve made explicit (something I dread, but made an exception for Trance_Ender, which is proving unworthy, “no good deed will go unpunished” indeed (H/T Mr.Russell)), I did it, once again, for the joke. “I lose the friend but not the joke” (is this an expression in english?)

If anything, they have made me even MORE careless. Why bother? I have a whole army of control freaks to pamper after all my blunders! MWAHAHAHA

And that, my dear, is why the Empire can never win. They carry the seed of self-destruction within themselves. An entertaining, if ephemeral, paradox.
(not to mention the awful marksmanship)

I guess I came late to this discussion – one of the funniest I’ve read on Kurzweil.net. I guess I am “old-school” … and in many ways I identify and give great credit to other people like Stephen Wolfram – people like Ray Kurzweil and Craig Venter and Eric Drexler and perhaps others like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and newer players like Elon Musk and Sebastian Thrun and so many others – who actually have done amazing things “their way.”

I’m aware of it, I like the myths best though.. way funnier, like the Dr.Mengele succeeding in Brazil with his potions.. (though there is a slight possibility the bad image could have motivated the govmt to bust that myth, though I think tourism would be better with it, the city didn’t like it,lol)

“The year after which, Stephen Wolfram was born.”
– Coincidence?? or did he picked up the baton?

Assume a grid of lemmings(!), every time a lemming has more than 3 neighbors or less than 2, it is pushed or throws himself over the cliff (out of “deep” depression), any empty space transmigrate the soul of a lemming if it has at least 3 alive lemmings around to resurrect it.

How many iterations, at least, will be required to produce, out of lemming little unworthy souls, the embarrassingly complex, seemingly random, unidimensional pattern of Wolfram’s soul?

Here is the meta-punch-line for you:
All this Singularity stuff really does amount to the silly monkeys’ attempts to escape their “humanity”, only they prefer to call it “transcendence”, not “escape”. Along the way, they lost their humility. And when they realized they were naked, they made for themselves clothes of animal skins. More killing. Murderous monkeys!

“not “escape””
– it certainly is better for transhumanist image, as this makes them look lazy, cowards and all those good things in the confused eyes of monkeys, but what do they know, they are so messed up. “Escapism” is actually a deriding term, just another tool of coercion in the hands of control freaks, to appease their anxiety over the simple fact they are the repellent object being “escaped” from.

“Here is the meta-punch-line for you”
– wow O.o I never thought Lisp programming could be so murderous!
All those blood tainted parentheses clothing my inhumane binary orders!-_-;

“In most languages there’s a sharp distinction between programs, and data, and the output of programs. Not so in the Wolfram Language. It’s all completely fluid. Data becomes algorithmic. Algorithms become data. There’s no distinction needed between code and data. And everything becomes both intrinsically scriptable, and intrinsically interactive. And there’s both a new level of interoperability, and a new level of modularity. …”

This sounds like it was copied almost verbatim from the back cover of a Lisp textbook. I’m the very FIRST to come to that insanely great discovery, as long as you don’t count the half-dozen people in this comment thread who already said it. (See, I can play the Stephen Wolfram game too!)

“Doktor Mengele could not be as hilaroius as that screaming, ”
” Doktor Mengele found to be as hilaroius all that screaming, ”

Indeed 7, I’m a linguistic genius!Mwahahaha… unless the english tradition of this game also had a different number of “mistakes”.. similar to cat lives from 7 to 9… you tell me =)

anyway, that’s the one.. the author knew his history and made lots of funny references, including this twin fetish one :-) check it out, I can’t tire of it… (except that guy looks more like an Indian than an Arian, but what to expect of low budget movies? actually surprisingly good…)

Thank you, Gorden. LeMMing’s reply was also good and even more obscure. Irony? Irani ! I did not walk, I ran. When I have to stop a minute to cough up some phlegMM, I wrack. Oh what a small, time-drenched world o’ trouble we live in!

Spot on. How sad that most Americans, being instinctive pragmatists, without any serious interest in real conceptual issues (the symbol grounding problem, anyone ?) consistently fall for this brand of meretricious hype

Boooy, you wouldn’t believe how embarrassingly loooong I’ve been brewing this joke.. for months, no, decades!

But those dummy monkeys, socially tied into cowardness, would never call me up on my bul… i mean, arrogance.

Once again we must stand in awe and thank the good Doctor. We would never make it without him. Let’s only hope his new system will deliver on the promise as I still have countless singularity jokes just itching to see the light of day.

This article, however, I started completely innocuous, with the simple lisp comment you skipped =P but people began hinting at it, hinting at it… I got carried over, mwahaha.. so, not so sudden… but embarrassingly gradual and all thanks to you and all the rest of monkeys who bring the worst in me =P

Well, enough about me.. let’s get back to Wolfram, not to risk going off topic.

Briiiiiiiiiiii I was beginning to miss you. ^_^ (I even delusionally believed Ancient One was you!! I had this terrible nightmare of you being AncientOne, Giulio the Trance_Ender and Amara, well, the Ed…. though Trance was foggy in the twilight, it could be Ben Goatzel)

I actually thought the 1st sentence of this message before reading your message (so i was going to say this whatever was the content), but thank you…

waaaaaait a second.. is this a new strategy to “befriend & destroy” or something? õ.O hmmmm…

and why you like so much to scream my name? poor MM’s of the world who must endure their names being thrown in the mud, just because I happen to like MM’s ?? Should I choose another, rarer, combination? what about Max Mercury? Marvin.. yeah, that would be fitting, so to speak… Marvin Mercury the paranoid android gnome with a monkey head the size of a planet.

hehehehe
yep, i wasn’t thinking of it either, I currently have(had) no experience of english commercials. But this was the one which maximized the message over time ratio, and was so short! a single minute, and just so funny for using it so many times…

I read in a couple of places that somebody created bacteria in the laboratory. I think it was the guy running a private company who was in competition with the Human Genome Project. I think I saw him on Charlie Rose. So, if that’s correct, then artificial life has already been created.

Craig Venter. Celera Genomics. That was then (late 1990s). More recently, Venter has taken a deep interest (pun alert!) in discovering as much as possible about deep sea marine life on research vessels of his own design. This, among who knows what else.

hehehe exactly.. lol this article opened up a whole can of worms, where is the comment about the AI guy? deleted even from the mosh pit, ed?! I mean, who can ever go against Jeff Hawkins?? Harder to get any sober than him! (I do try around here however, don’t I ed? ;-))

well at least Venter seems to gets some serious stuff done on the back of his grad. students, researchers and what not…

You know it. Stephen Wolfram has made a paradoxically successful career for himself by consistently aiming high, then falling short. I used Mathematica professionally for years. It gets the job done, but it has to be coaxed every step along the way. Its kludgey user interface with its Kernel/Front End architecture is an abomination. Mathematica is basically the obamacare of math-geek-pro software. Wolfram’s “masterpiece”, a massive tome titled “A New Kind of Science”, was a disappointment. He choked in his attempt to educe a “Theory Of Everything” based on the inadequate premise that Everything boils down to the rules governing cellular automata. I suppose I am unfair, but my standard for a Great Book That Changes Everything You Have Wondered About But Never Knew Explicitly is Benoit Mandelbrot’s “The Fractal Geometry of Nature”.
As for Wolfram and his eponymous language being all set to revolutionize the field of artificial intelligence, I ask: remember the old language called LISP?

60′s yes. So? well, we can infer it took at least 2 decades, but mathematica wasn’t it either, you said it yourself how a contrived Rube Goldberg machine concoction it is.

if you allow me to quote this passage a third time: “It’s been an embarrassingly gradual process over the course of decades for me to understand …”… five decades to be exact! Indeed as embarrassing as it gets.

by assholes such as yourself, yes. So who is the hapless one? As long as there are scum like you around, it won’t be the wolf-ram.

“(Weren’t the buffalo hunted almost to extinction for their wings?)”
Are you planning more of that? lemmings have also been hunted almost to extinction for their wings, right here. Those wings flew them too high though. Let’s see what control freaks come up with next.

heh, I was right after all, you are scum. Do you honestly believe you can hide your dysfunctions behind a username? Monkey holds banana in one hand, half sticking out, tell demi-god it got no frustration banana inside.http://youtu.be/weZaWM_2pFQ?t=18m3s

Let my censors watch and learn how it is done, you censor yourself or pick another username to try again.

Bug Alert: it says duplicate comment but the control flow was interrupted in-between, it is not showing up the comment, thus reposting.

hmmm, I never thought the Borg design that very efficient, this may change a bit my perspective. Thanks.

btw, I’ve assimilated a mailing list once, impersonating the Borg, I tell you, the owners were less than pleased =P (ironically they got better off afterwards, heh, those monkeys can’t see a couple moves ahead of the game)

Just imagine aaaall the tv Shows and computer Games featuring the Wolfrapocalypse! The masses of assimilated wollframs… rocking through the ruined city, as people are unable to cooperate and understand each other’s sentences…

I said I’ve come to a dire realization as I contemplated that phrase, but “that is what I call ‘cold’ thinking”http://youtu.be/zw7AYJikDJE

The problem as I see it, is that a smaller and smaller population of technorati are increasingly concentrating power and wealth in a primate urge driven process to become king of the hill. Agreed that very soon the process will accelerate beyond human capacity to mitigate its further evolution, would it not be in all our best interest now to ensure that this soon to be run away train is laid down on tracks that are conducive to success and continued positive development of humanity. Is it not time for greater humanity and not less?

Mr.K says not boom nor bust made a dent in the Law of Accelerating Returns ™ . Not tWo World Wars, not Napoleon nor our beloved Dr.Mengele*.. but our other sadistic, and as we discovered today no less beloved, Dr., Wolfram, this one may actually be the exception which proves the rule. **

What he just described is Lisp, dressed up as Wolfram Language. Undoubtedly he’s developed an interesting integration and delivery platform with access to a universe of data but everything he’s hinted about Wolfram Language is exactly Lisp rediscovered.

I don’t know whether to be glad or sigh, maybe both. It’d be interesting to see if there’s any actual Lisp influence on the new language.

It is indeed difficult to tell if it is day or night when your head is stuck in a bucket of water, but you can be confident of this: a broken clock is right twice a day and what is lost shall be found in the last place you look.

This is sooo depressing. Nobody cares about hurting my feelings and everyone just takes me for granted. Does Amara want me to put my head in a Dyson sphere full of water while she parties away at Milliways ’til the universe succumbs to heat death? Soooooooo depressing!

hah! :) Good, you read it… I dont mind AS much if you guys/girls delete posts as long as the original ‘target’ has a chance to read it. Though it’s kinda egotistical to keep all that beautiful fun only to yourselves, the ideal would be if I could edit out, or rewrite, the “offending” bits… also less work for whomever must make that choice =P and I would have an incentive not to nag? ;-)

In fact it was I who actually encouraged that.. more ethical… strategy to replace their censorship.

it was I who countless times insisted with Br.i “If you are indeed right [about all their rationalizations to censor me] then the shame would be on me!”

But noooo, let’s continue on deleting, on top of that, are you that desperate?

btw, you got it all backwards, did you watch the clip to the end, u cheat? :)

You better press y for work and worry now, while I still super estimate you and refuse to consider you might have been too “oxy” and ego.centric to actually associate the last kid lines with your exact semantics I replied to.

Which reminds me what has truly disappointed me about Ben’s “intelligence” (been meaning to tell you ever since we began our conversation in his documentary page, nothing special about the current one, of course). In a conference he said how he could not figure out how all that Jeff Hawkin’s HTM, neural model, could be intelligent, how it could work. Which was surprising from someone who works with so overly complicated math stuff. Until of course, a second later, when I realized it was just another false humility and adulation. Typical social monkey behavior. Extremely disappointing as I thought he much nicer than most and more immune to that.

Well, at least it points out to him, as with Mr.K, where their AI’s will be so inefficient (hint). Until they can throw more hardware at it so it helps in bruteforcing what’s wrong. As someone actually smart around here has very well put it.

Discretion is exercised by the one about to post a potentially offensive comment, which is for the one you call the “hapless victim”, inasmuch as the potentially offending expression has been intercepted before hitting the send button, so it is never seen by the control freak monkey censor or the intended target “victim”.

You haven’t answered my question, Architect.
Are you saying the best part of dictatorship is when the sheep police themselves?
Careful now, you are threading on the precipice of strike 4. (don’t worry, you have an almost infinite number of those :))

And speaking of unanswered questions, I’ve been meaning to ask you this as well, since you “know so much” about wolfram ;-) There was a H+ conference (it could be humanity+ or singularity or whatever, I dont keep track of this) it was somewhat recent, a few years back at most, but it was streamed online (something btw they dont seem to be doing anymore, those cowards, where is all the exponential tech? LoL, or is this pure greed with the tickets?).
Anyway, it was awesome, because not only was it streamed live, it also had a chat to the side, unmonitored, much like here you know ;-)

My question to you is this, was you the master Jedi who taught this young Padawan how to perceive and resist the hypnotic rocking motion of the Dark Side™? I remember we also discussed the metaphysics of consciousness.

Should I digress on the recurrent ‘false humility’?” It’s been an embarrassingly gradual process over the course of decades for me to understand just how powerful this idea is.

Statement which, by the way, me and Alex above kinda proved to be possibly one of the most retarded one can utter after Lisp arrived at the scene even more decades back. (Unless of course the actual goal is to inflate one’s ego, i.e. false humility)

Then, as he indulge more and more into it, his ego gets inflated.. more and more inflated.. until he starts rocking from side to side, like an inflated wobbly man, literally!http://youtu.be/KcGG5E4iN8g
Did I say retard? I meant asperger. Though this nomenclature is about to change as well. (yet again Trance_Ender =P brace yourself)

And if you also allow me to get back to the singularity philosophy I was discussing with Bri (*cringe*) the other day, topic by the way you guys get surprisingly little for THE Mr.K website… perhaps you should hire me, but how to pay me if I have no need for money, fame or glory?
[Editor, actually you should move the WHOLE off-topic WEBSITE to the pit.. Goedel may object to that however, after we resurrect him]

That, my friends, is why you monkeys can never – ever — solve your quirks. Not only would you be that much more obvious for us to figure you out, but your godly diversity would fall precipitously, leaving but a few cloned copycats.. thus the reduced numbers of demi-gods who can possibly exist. Bri may want to take the digression from here, as this is getting crazier than I like to divulge.

Of course, the irony of the universe predicts however, it will be in vain. Only to discover that was exactly what you wanted in the first place. Iiii hear ya! Sure, let’s find out then.. no problem. Don’t worry, I’m riiight here to “help”….

I’ll miss all that superiority though…. when there are near equals around.

Wasn’t this why you got here? The title you clicked says something “very big” is coming your way (probably a phallic object). Is that why nobody is reading it?

Or did I rocked too hard from side to side, like an inflated, full of hot air, wobbly man? oh my, I hope I didn’t fall that low! Mwahahahahahaa

Well, I guess we kinda exhausted our criticisms on this article with our one liners! so it only fits it well. Wolfram would carry you on for hours though, fan boy.

Ps.: Actually, this is in the lowest ranges, you should check Mr.X, Bri, Jake Witmer, myself and others, some of the actual lengthier exchanges you can find at the pit, *IF* you can find that secret place ;-)

Perhaps the “crushing” visuals of the site (that’s a compliment, ed. :-)) make it look long or you’re just a slow reader? Or perhaps you’re not philosophically inclined or even somehow hurt by it, huh? Something very big came your way after all.

Yeah, ohMM, the nomenclature “Asperger Syndrome” was cut by the editorial committee for the DSM-V, so it is back to “Re-Tard”, specifically
“Autistic Spectrum Disorder”, which cannot change the undeniable fact that there still exist, and will always exist, a mutant strain of retard math savants, some more savant than others.

Despite their lofty academic credentials and impressive curricula vitae, those “respected authorities” in the field of treating the “disordered” mental states of the “mentally ill” are not doing science. They are practicing politics with their voting in committees.