-=PCTechTalk=- Re: IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build

From: "Chris Spotta" <chris@xxxxxxxxxx>

To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:58:28 +0100

Cajun
How are things progressing now?
Regards
Chris
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http://www.spotta.com
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[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: 20 April 2005 17:02
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Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build
When I started this reply I was under the impression that you had 3 IDE
channels. One on the motherboard and two on the VT6410. After browsing the
Gigabyte link, I suspect what you actually have is TWO IDE channels. One on
the MoBo (IDE 0) and One on the VT 6410 (IDE 1).... each having a primary
and a secondary connector. The floppy MAY have its own controller
connector, but I think it uses the IDE 0 secondary connector instead. I did
not edit the message to reflect this change in thinking, just in case you
_DO_ have three channels.
Computers are wierd. They number things from 0 not from 1. When I think
computers, I think from 0. So I suspect I am confused because I suspect you
are numbering your IDE controllers 1, 2 and 3 and I would number them 0, 1
and 2. Or, if you are referring to the primary and secondary connectors as
IDE 1 and IDE2 that would be confusing also. The manual is not readable
online so I don't know how it numbered things.
My line of thinking is sometimes twisted and perverse, but if I were buying
a RAID controller for IDE devices, I would expect the only way an IDE device
would work while connected to the RAID controller would be in a RAID
configuration. Thus floppy drives, ZIP drives and CD-ROM drives could not
be connected to them. And to make a hard drive work you would need TWO
harddrives connected to it.
If that turns out to be the situation, I would try this...
1. This paragraph assumes the motherboard owns IDE0 and the VT6410 IDE
Controller owns IDE1 and IDE2. Every IDE controller I've seen has a Primary
and a Secondary connector. A Master and a Slave can be connected to each
one. Thus, you should be able to connect all three devices to IDE 0. If
the Floppy is occupying one, then slave the CD-ROM to the Floppy and then
slave the ZIP to the hard drive on the other. I would place the harddrive
on the primary and the floppy on the secondary. You would then have ALL 4
devices connected to IDE 0 (IDE 1if you numbered them 1-2-3). If the
Floppy is on its own separate controller then the same idea applies. I
would slave the Zip to the Harddrive on the primary channel and master the
CD-ROM on the secondary. Or, if there is only a single connector on IDE0
then...
2. Buy a SATA hard drive for your boot drive and then install CD and ZIP on
IDE 0. OR
3. Buy an EXTERNAL case for the hard drive and connect to a USB port.
Connect the ZIP and CD to IDE 0. OR
4. Try to slave the CD drive to the floppy and the Zip to the harddrive.
Don
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From: "Cajun" <cajun@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "PCTechTalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build
> Hello Don. Everything on this computer is new. The hard drive was
> formatted for the first time when put into this computer. I never take a
> hard drive with an installed operating system out of one computer and put
> it into another computer. This board has integrated High Definition
> Azalea sound and an installed Albatron 6600 video card. The only thing I
> took out of my old computer were the Plextor CDRW drive and the Zip 250.
> Both are between one and two years old.
> I have posed a question to the Gigabyte Tech Support Forum, but they have
> not answered. I posed a much simpler question there two days ago and got
> an answer in half a day.
>
> I built the computer at someone else's house and had not yet pulled my
> CDRW and Zip drives for installation in the new computer. So, we used an
> external USB CD-ROM drive to install Windows XP on the hard drive, which
> was plugged into IDE1. When the hard drive is plugged into IDE1, it does
> boot into Windows perfectly. The Gigabyte manual says that the CD-ROM
> drive must be plugged into IDE1 in order to work properly. This board has
> SATA Raid and IDE Raid. I am not running RAID. IDE Raid is on the VT6410
> IDE Controller and I'm gathering that it controls IDE2 & IDE3. So, I
> followed the instructions to configure the VT6410 IDE Controller mode and
> boot sequence in the BIOS by enabling Onboard H/W Raid and then moving the
> IDE HDD up to Item #1 in the Hard Disk Boot Priority section. With these
> BIOS settings, the following happens:
>
> With CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the IDE HDD on IDE2, it boots to the
> Windows XP screen, then a very fast flash of error messages in blue flash
> by and it reboots.
>
> With the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the HDD unplugged, it boots to
> the CDRW.
>
> With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip unplugged, it boots to
> Windows XP perfectly, but (of course) no CDRW or Zip.
>
> With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE2, it
> boots to Windows XP perfectly but does not recognize the CDRW & Zip.
>
> I have no SATA drives at this time. In the BIOS:
> SATA Raid/AHCI Mode - disabled
> On-Chip SATA Mode - auto
>
> The Boot sequence is:
> Floppy
> Hard Drive
> CD-ROM
>
> I have arranged this in different ways, but it didn't matter.
>
> The hard drive is correctly identified in the BIOS when it is plugged into
> IDE1.
>
> This is a Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo Pro board.
>
http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8I915P%20Duo%20Pro
.htm
>
> I have never had SATA and RAID capabilities before, so I don't know what
> I'm doing wrong. I initially had the Onboard H/W Raid disabled in the
> BIOS and it was not recognizing the hard drive at all or attempting to
> boot into Windows. After enabling this and making the HDD the first boot
> priority drive in the BIOS, it starts to boot into Windows, but then
> reboots. Could this be happening because the Zip is on the cable with the
> CD-ROM drive? Could it need to be on the cable with the hard drive
> instead?
>
> dj
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