Comments

Comment by menasheh

Drops from Kael'thas Sunstrider in heroic Magisters' Terrace. Better than that piece of crap Vashj drops. For PvE, a decent competitor to the S2 breastplate (this has 9 more str, 4 more hit, 13 less crit, assuming you socket with blue quality gems...this does slightly better if you get the str/agi blue gem from Heroic SV). S3 is better though.

Comment by WarMaster

This is better than T5 for BE ret pallies, for allies it's equal. Odd how "Noob'thas" in a heroic 5-man gives a better chest than the full power real Kael'thas in 25-man SSC. :P

It's like 1 dps shy of the S3 chest, so if you only arena for the gear I wouldn't spend the points on S3, or at least drop it to the end of your shopping list.

Comment by WarMaster

This is better than T5 for BE ret pallies, for allies it's equal. Odd how "Noob'thas" in a heroic 5-man gives a better chest than the full power real Kael'thas in 25-man TK. :P

It's like 1 dps shy of the S3 chest, so if you only arena for the gear I wouldn't spend the points on S3, or at least drop it to the end of your shopping list.

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Comment by KoMoSkY

If you're a Retadin and you're using Tier pieces, you really fail at this game, the only Viable Ret Gear right now is S3 and s2 shoulders, S3 weapon is even much better then cataclysms edge from archimonde.

Comment by Faldoran

You have no idea what you're talking about, both Torch and Edge is better then the season 3 weps and Tier 6 shoulders + chest is the best in-game when you've hit the hit cap (which you du easily as a ret paladin).

Comment by Fugazi

Season 3 chest is better than this in both PvP and PvE for both fury and arms. Comparable with S2 chest that will be available for honor with S4.

Comment by Leviathan232

This is superior to S1 chest piece for sure, as far as warriors are concerned. Much more str than s1 piece, a little less stam but fury warrs don't really need to stack loads of it, lil bit more hit rating and same crit. Didn't bother with maths, tho there's not much to calculate. Gonna get this baby on my warr for sure :P.

EDIT: All that goes for PvE ofc.

Comment by doomulus

Got this chest today.Ehm is this chest better then im not sure. wat do u think?

Comment by Caelia

Say you ignore the socket bonus. Socket with all 8 Strength gems. Over the Elven what changes is:

+22 Strength

-27 Stam

+18 Hit Rating

-5 Crit Rating

-161 Armor Penetration

Considering if you are DPS'ing you shouldnt be taking damage so stamina doesnt become that important, So you gain alot of strength, alot of hit for a loss of 5 crit and 161 armor penetration. I say its a fair trade, also according to MaxDPS, the Elven is 27.20 DPS while Netherforce is 34.20 DPS, a 7 DPS increase. That being for ret pallies, but still for Fury/Arms warrior the Netherforce still comes out ontop by at least 5 DPS.

Comment by Dedread

The difference in strength is more significant than the ArP from the Bloodstained, even if your ArP was significant (i.e. over 300).

I also find that a hit rating of 160-180 is highly desireable, and this is one piece of gear where you won't be giving up massive amounts of Strength to get a bit of +hit, unlike some other pieces. Lately, I've been finding that while you can get a lot of loot that improves your AP, you end up sacrificing hit, and below about 160 hit, my rage is so spiky that I have "boom and bust" periods of rage gen. While AP>hit, and it DOES give an overall boost to dmg in steady boss fights, you can have some really crappy trash fights, where it feels like you're doing jack all, and even in boss fights, if your rotation is interrupted and your buffs start to drop off (Rampage especially), it's hard to get them all back up and running with only 144 hit rating (the minimum).

Comment by ardent

Just wondering: Does anyone know if there are matching pants to this chest?

Comment by Unbelive

does anyone know fury WArrior hit Cap for end game rading with 3 points in Precision

Comment by Yorkville

This is actually better than the first Tier Armoursmithing piece Breastplate of Kings, for a fury warrior anyways.

I think it might actually be better overall, it has more Strength than even the third tier Armoursmithing piece. Bulwark of the Ancient Kings

The second and third tier pieces have more crit rating, stamina, hit rating(once you've hit 95 Hit rating(the soft cap), you don't really need to stack Hit anymore, just take it as you get it after that point), and the use ability.

It's really debateable, if you're short on HP you'd be better off getting the Armoursmith pieces, but you don't really need to load up on stamina as a fury warrior unless you also offtank for your guild.

Considering the fact that a lot of fury warriors use leather, and mail pieces as well as plate this piece is actually well worth trying for even if you are an armoursmith.

edit: Add in the fact that the socket bonus is better too, it's definately worth trying for this even if you have the armoursmithing chest as it would allow you to pick up something you could use for PVP too, if you went hammersmith.

Edit:I forgot to do the math on the crafted chest pieces, the final tier has 1% more crit overall.