New MinelabThe new Minelab seems to have a lot of similarities with Deus. An interesting machine for sure. Interesting to see how it actually performs in the field.https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2395204#msg-2395204
Tue, 14 Aug 2018 16:48:20 -0500Phorum 5.2.23https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2398012#msg-2398012Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2398012#msg-2398012

QuoteMiser67
I remember once, many moons ago, there was a brand new metal detector coming out called the AT Pro. Months before the detector was even released, people were lining up to buy and early orders were brisk. The metal detecting forums lit up like fireworks on the 4th of July. People were debating, arguing, even screaming at one another over the abilities of this detector, and mind you, the machine had not even been released yet. It was almost comic the levels of hysteria some people were willing to go to over a detector they had not used a single time.

I am starting to get the same feeling about the Equinox. Some have started grumbling. Others are shoving. Weapons are being chosen. Alliances made. I can already hear the sound of trenches being dug.

yep. Happens every time. The CTX forum got so ugly it was deleted entirely and started over. You have people who really like brand "A" and post to show love for the upcoming machine. then you have people who hate brand "A" and go to post everything critical they can imagine. People pre-order and people call them stupid for "jumping on the band wagon". Happening all over again with the EQ. It will happen again with the next one too, I'm sure.]]>Jason in EnidMetal Detecting ForumThu, 28 Sep 2017 12:56:09 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397885#msg-2397885Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397885#msg-2397885
ArchitexMetal Detecting ForumWed, 27 Sep 2017 15:20:55 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397876#msg-2397876Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397876#msg-2397876
I am starting to get the same feeling about the Equinox. Some have started grumbling. Others are shoving. Weapons are being chosen. Alliances made. I can already hear the sound of trenches being dug.]]>Miser67Metal Detecting ForumWed, 27 Sep 2017 14:03:53 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397803#msg-2397803Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397803#msg-2397803
mrwilburinoMetal Detecting ForumWed, 27 Sep 2017 04:47:07 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397671#msg-2397671Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397671#msg-2397671
That's good , now maybe the Fisher , Garrett , White's , Turks and Tesoros people can be all defensive about their machines as well.
As the world turns:thumbup:]]>sprchngMetal Detecting ForumTue, 26 Sep 2017 15:44:27 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397511#msg-2397511Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397511#msg-2397511
BUY one, I hope it's the magic your looking for. Soon we'll all know more. Here's just my
thoughts on this new Minelab detector. I can't see them creating a machine that will
out do the E-Trac or the Ctx 3030. No way can I conceive the idea of the Equinox surpassing
the abilities of either of these 2 machines. If so what will they do with all the E-Trac's and
3030's left on the shelf. The 3030's are already a hard sell for the money and many
wonder if they'll get a GOOD ONE! Smoke the DEUS,I hope not!!! So again, you guys
that get one I wish you Luck... Me, I'll be keep'in on with the 3.2 version DEUS.
Minelab's seen their last $ from me. GOOD HUNTING EVERYONE...
silverseeker2]]>silverseeker 2Metal Detecting ForumMon, 25 Sep 2017 19:51:08 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397186#msg-2397186Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397186#msg-2397186

QuoteFire Fighter 43
I find it funny that the longest thread in a while on the XP forum is about a non XP detector. It seems like the XP diehards feel threatened by a new machine. Personally I hope the Equanox blows the XP out of the water. That just means all the other manufacturers will have to up their game. A win win for all of us. I'm not loyal to any one company I just want to use the best equipment for the conditions I'm hunting. I have had the CTX since it came out and IMHO it is close to the best coin machine in modern trash on the market. I would say only the Etrac slightly beats it, but the CTX has some more advantages that make it my choice for coins. I hope the Equanox is just as good or better than the CTX and Etrac and if that is the case the CTX will be gone. I've had the Deus for about a year and it is now my go to machine for field and relic hunting. IMHO it can't be beat in iron. Also, the light weight gives this seasoned guy the ability to swing it all day. I have a trip planned to the U.K. In the spring and the XP will be my machine of choice.

:thumbup:
:thumbup:
I wish I had written this. Be nice detecting in the UK as well:smile:]]>sprchngMetal Detecting ForumSun, 24 Sep 2017 11:41:46 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397182#msg-2397182Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397182#msg-2397182
sucker born every minute as the saying goes..

i been suckered a few times but until new tech arrives as i have stated its all old tech..]]>Blank PlanetMetal Detecting ForumSun, 24 Sep 2017 11:27:25 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397147#msg-2397147Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397147#msg-2397147
Fire Fighter 43Metal Detecting ForumSun, 24 Sep 2017 09:30:01 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397066#msg-2397066Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2397066#msg-2397066

QuoteJBM1
Hi Charles thanks for posting.

Those gold nuggets are really tiny.

What settings were you using.

Jerry.

That 14k ferrule with the stone in it, solid hit at 3 inches with the Deus, it didn't make a peep on my Explorer even rubbing it on the coil. That tells me the Deus with this coil will hit on diamond stud earrings.

Minelab were also giving away lots of freebies like beads to the natives.

Personally I purchased a XP Deus High frequency coil having watched the tiny piece of gold test which is on Steves u-tube video.

There were more XP machines proportionally on the rally than any other.

Bringing in the sample Exuinox by parachute was a novel idea.

Alain Loubet and the XP stand was possibly the busiest and up to 6 experts at a time helping folks out.

All the big UK XP dealers were on site and special offers were available.

Only time will tell us what future the New Minelab has for the detecting world.

The XP Deus is still the only true completely Wireless detector.

The new Equinox controller look very much like the Quest one from the USA, which seemed to have large crowds around their tented area.

In-fact I heard from a good source that the dealership is exceptionally busy trying to cope with the large demand.

Only time will tell with our hobby which I have been interested in since the late 1970`s and had my first Minelab in the 1980`s.

Happy Hunting,

Jerry.

.]]>JBM1Metal Detecting ForumSat, 23 Sep 2017 14:21:31 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396707#msg-2396707Re: I agree Terry...https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396707#msg-2396707
I reluctantly tried a Deus lite as an alternative to another Minelab which due to the local dollar crept up to almost 2 grand with taxes. ($1,980 total)
As it turns out rather then being a compromised alternative for land, it also became my primary water machine, an unexpected bonus.
Sure the active Deus coils are expensive compared to a passive coil, but it's much cheaper then a quality water machine. (Excalibur $1,500 vs a 2nd Deus coil for around $500.)
Another consideration is the risk factor, it is highly unlikely that you will flood both the Deus coil and headphones in the water. By having a land and sea system, a spare coil or headphones can be easily substituted while the other is repaired. All your eggs aren't in one basket.
Lets also look at the fact that the Deus is more versatile in the water compared to current Minelab, just like on land.

Minelab was king of the coins, but the Deus is waaay more versatile on both targets and user configuration, land and sea. (Freshwater)

Now time will tell how well Equinox does, it would have been a great machine for me...4 or 5 years ago. However now that I have been introduced to the Deus "system" it would be hard to replace it.

Look at how the "new" XP coils work with the "old" Deus hardware. XP is updating all the time, you can just roll the new hardware (and software) through your system as you see fit. That is nicer then having to jump to a completely different platform when you want to upgrade a specific feature. This little detail is a big thing, someone had their thinking cap on.

Ironically I suppose credit could go to the Minelab Xterra series, because you could change your Freq with the coil, however it had no ability to update, Freq was lock to a specific coil, just a little ahead of it's time. Also I don't think the Xterra series was engineered seriously enough. What I mean is they had their FBS series as their "serious" machines and made the Xterra series as a more pedestrian machine. The problem with that logic is metal detecting does not have a pedestrian market. Rarely does that type of person buy a machine, if they do it ends up in a closet after a couple of outings. That is not enough to sustain a niche market lineup like that, especially when compared to the raving lunatics that buy those Garrets. Garret gets away with it because their beginner lineup includes the ATPro, it matters not to them which "Ace" you buy, they all cost the same to make.

Some have mentioned Minelab flops. I tried a GoFind 60 last night, I put it head to head with a Technetics Delta 4000. The retail price is about the same though the Delta always goes on sale. (In fact just checked it's $277 CAD this morning)
The Delta will absolutely smoke the GoFind in everything except for ID of nickle coins, which is a hollow victory in that regard too because it is a hard machine to "X". The Delta is deeper, faster and handles EMI much better. Not to mention the GoFInd frame had a lot of slop. I was hoping the GoFind would be a compact little backup for digging shallow round sounds, but it's not. For $350 it should have worked at least as good as the Xterra. Who cares about Bluetooth connectivity, the purchaser won't likely use one long enough to take advantage of such features. I certainly haven't heard any chatter about it.
So the Delta will stay as a backup/loaner for friends and family. At least if they use that I won't feel bad giving them a gimped up machine. In fact I know a guy locally who did amazing with a Delta, now I know why, it's decent enough. I kinda feel bad for him because I sold him a Etrac and I think he struggles with it, he is in that quagmire now. He did awesome with the Delta, it was easy to use, but now he's too captivated with the Etrac right now to put it down. I thought based on his Delta finds he would just light it up with the Etrac, but that's not quite the case. He's made a few decent finds with the Etrac, just in that awkward stage right now and won't read the manual. (He's silver hunting with 3 tones I think, eek!) IMO it's hard to look for silver when it sounds like a "12" on a Minelab lol. Oh well we have all been there.

All my blathering aside, this Equinox will likely be a home run for Minelab. I already feel like I would recommend it to someone who wants the best "conventional" machine for under a grand. Remember Deus Lite does not have heads up display, I wouldn't push it on newer person who wants a screen, I understand the allure of having that number there at first.
However, I would like to try one first, cause I can still taste that GoFind from last night, the Equinox could suck.]]>endermanMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 11:35:38 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396698#msg-2396698Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396698#msg-2396698
LTimediggerMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 10:37:56 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396690#msg-2396690One question:https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396690#msg-2396690
but not filling the hole back in?

Why not just place the coin on the surface and swing over it?

It looks very deceptive, to say the least.]]>Greg (E.Tn)Metal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 10:02:50 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396680#msg-2396680I agree Terry...https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396680#msg-2396680
Micheal]]>MikieMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 09:42:11 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396679#msg-2396679Re: Well Spoken TerryR,https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396679#msg-2396679
Charles (Upstate NY)Metal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 09:38:46 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396676#msg-2396676Well Spoken TerryR,https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396676#msg-2396676
make sure that I was on the Deus Forum. Minelab, You
can have them , their LEAKY over-priced Ctx which many
think is the Greatest out there. Then the Go find series.
What I get out of Minelab these days is cheap junk and
expensive junk. Minelab's greatest feat here in the States
was the E-Trac and Explorer series. After that it's all DOWN HILL!!!
Now they have this Equinox and guys are lining up like Rats on Cheese...
I wish them LUCK!
I'LL be keeping on with my FAITHFUL DEUS 3.2
Can't be beat in the IRON...
silverseeker2]]>silverseeker 2Metal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 09:23:47 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396671#msg-2396671Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396671#msg-2396671
TerryRMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 08:46:50 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396670#msg-2396670Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396670#msg-2396670
minelab been using XP's detector to make a minelab um arh :lmfao:

bring on the fight good to see 2 heavy weights punch on :biggrin:

but all minelab have done so far is swing hay makers that have turned in to air swings :rofl:

lots of air swinging :buds:]]>Blank PlanetMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 08:36:17 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396667#msg-2396667Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396667#msg-2396667
I'd say the Deus hit the coins clearly enough, put it in 2 tones alter a few settings and it would do better, but certainly not a "no go" as you say.

Quotesquirrel1

Quotehairymonsterman
Deus doing same test with bigger thicker iron, coil isn't being completely covered width wise by the iron, using stock program Deus fast, with sens at 85.
I could have adjusted the Deus to given even better results, but using stock program anyone could easily try at home and see the vid wasn't rigged.

Quotehairymonsterman
Deus doing same test with bigger thicker iron, coil isn't being completely covered width wise by the iron, using stock program Deus fast, with sens at 85.
I could have adjusted the Deus to given even better results, but using stock program anyone could easily try at home and see the vid wasn't rigged.

Quotesquirrel1
Equinox is game changer.
Them tests by iron down the barrel swing directions,,,,try that with Deus or CTX = No Go.

Your test not the same test done at detectival.
Notice the Deus tones with the coin on end,,tone heavily compromised.
Equinox sounded clearer not near as compromised.
Don' t think Minelab didn't do a study of .Deus when developing Deus.

Using Equinox,,in test at detectival, like the iron bar wasn't there,,iron tone practically nonexistent.
Btw gamechanger doesn't mean necessarily a detector does things not previously done,,but rather a detector model that can do like similar things for cheaper price.
Deus sale will definitely take a hit with Equinox.
Anyone who doesn't believe this is dreaming.
Other models sales will take hits too.

The waterproofing really put Equinox over the top, when tied to performance,,for the $$ they cost.
I'll bet also there is huge debate going on with Minelab as far as warranty period.
We'll,see..]]>squirrel1Metal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 06:41:18 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396649#msg-2396649Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396649#msg-2396649
I could have adjusted the Deus to given even better results, but using stock program anyone could easily try at home and see the vid wasn't rigged.

Quotesquirrel1
Equinox is game changer.
Them tests by iron down the barrel swing directions,,,,try that with Deus or CTX = No Go.

]]>hairymonstermanMetal Detecting ForumFri, 22 Sep 2017 03:54:26 -0500https://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396648#msg-2396648Re: New Minelabhttps://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2395204,2396648#msg-2396648
I tried the same test as Sid did with the Equinox, £2 coin and the open hole, the Deus with 13" coil got much the same result, i covered the hole in and it was gone, though the soil was registering full on the Deus mineral scale when the coil was pumped.

QuoteGary-B
At the Detectival XP had a test bed, one of the demonstrations was a copper coin buried at 16" not an open hole.The Deus located this target.
The soil at the rally did not appear to be highly mineralised only 2 bars on the Deus meter.