Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 14:05:52 GMT -5

Good point! You haven't been able to explain that in the other thread, either.

So, what does his supposed denial of genocide have to do with anything?

What does Rand's?

Bob

If you dismiss a genocide denier's ideas because they denied a genocide, then why are you not dismissing a genocide advocate's ideas because they advocated for genocide?

Your characterization of Chomsky as a "Holocaust denier" and your equation of Cambodia with the Holocaust says something very interesting about your real motivation, but what would be a Red Herring here.

Post by rmarks1 on May 18, 2019 14:22:40 GMT -5

If you dismiss a genocide denier's ideas because they denied a genocide, then why are you not dismissing a genocide advocate's ideas because they advocated for genocide?

Exactly when did I dismiss Chomsky's ideas because he denied the Cambodian Genocide? I never did. Go back to that thread and read the posts again.

I never once claimed that Chomsky's ideas should be dismissed because he denied the Cambodian Holocaust.

Your characterization of Chomsky as a "Holocaust denier" and your equation of Cambodia with the Holocaust says something very interesting about your real motivation, but what would be a Red Herring here.

Ad Hominem. My alleged motivation has nothing to do with the validity of my posts.

Have you found any factual errors in my posts so far? If so, please state them. If not, then simply admit that you have not been able to find any factual errors.

Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 12:49:31 GMT -5

Your characterization of Chomsky as a "Holocaust denier" and your equation of Cambodia with the Holocaust says something very interesting about your real motivation, but what would be a Red Herring here.

Ad Hominem.

Exactly. Your insinuation that Chomsky is a Nazi was an ad hominem, intended to undermine the validity of his arguments, without you ever actually engaging with his arguments in the first place.

Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 13:49:46 GMT -5

Exactly. Your insinuation that Chomsky is a Nazi was an ad hominem, intended to undermine the validity of his arguments, without you ever actually engaging with his arguments in the first place.

Nope. I never said that Chomsky was a Nazi. You made that up.

What I did say was that he was a denier of the Cambodian Holocaust. And that was true.

If you had actually read my post before starting your usual "I-dinna-say-nuthin" song-and-dance, you would have noticed that instead of claiming that you literally said "Chomsky is a Nazi", I claimed that you insinuated as such with your "Holocaust Denier" moniker.

As for undermining validity of arguments without actually engaging them in the first place, I refer you to your many, many posts about the one time Rand mentioned the Native-American genocide.

LOL, I really hit a nerve there didn't I? Maybe, if you want to keep your high horse, don't become the follower of a genocide apologist when you want to argue that not believing the same as you turns me into Hitler.

Post by rmarks1 on May 19, 2019 14:29:56 GMT -5

What I did say was that he was a denier of the Cambodian Holocaust. And that was true.

If you had actually read my post before starting your usual "I-dinna-say-nuthin" song-and-dance, you would have noticed that instead of claiming that you literally said "Chomsky is a Nazi", I claimed that you insinuated as such with your "Holocaust Denier" moniker.

The mass murder of over 20% of the Cambodian population is just as much of a Holocaust as the Nazi Genocide and the massacres of Tamerlane the "Great". No special insinuation meant. And none necessary.

As for undermining validity of arguments without actually engaging them in the first place, I refer you to your many, many posts about the one time Rand mentioned the Native-American genocide.

LOL, I really hit a nerve there didn't I?

You didn't hit a nerve. But you keep referring to it again and again so I have to respond. One error does not refute a whole philosophy.

Maybe, if you want to keep your high horse, don't become the follower of a genocide apologist when you want to argue that not believing the same as you turns me into Hitler.

I totally reject Rand's view of the Native-American slaughter. I have already said so on several occasions. I never accused you of being Hitler.

Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 22:38:56 GMT -5

If you had actually read my post before starting your usual "I-dinna-say-nuthin" song-and-dance, you would have noticed that instead of claiming that you literally said "Chomsky is a Nazi", I claimed that you insinuated as such with your "Holocaust Denier" moniker.

The mass murder of over 20% of the Cambodian population is just as much of a Holocaust as the Nazi Genocide and the massacres of Tamerlane the "Great". No special insinuation meant. And none necessary.

The Holocaust, also known as the Shoah, was a genocide during World War II in which Nazi Germany, aided by local collaborators, systematically murdered some six million European Jews—around two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe—between 1941 and 1945.[c] Jews were targeted for extermination as part of a larger event during the Holocaust era, in which Germany and its collaborators persecuted and murdered other groups, including Slavs (chiefly ethnic Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, and Soviet citizens), the Roma, the "incurably sick", political and religious dissenters such as communists and Jehovah's Witnesses, and gay men.

By which you mean, you never used the literal words "I accuse you of being Hitler" when argueing that being Hitler is the logical end point for every leftist/statist/not-Randian, after ten years of argueing that every single political position I hold is "fascist" or otherwise leads to becoming Hitler.

Post by rmarks1 on May 19, 2019 22:48:30 GMT -5

The mass murder of over 20% of the Cambodian population is just as much of a Holocaust as the Nazi Genocide and the massacres of Tamerlane the "Great". No special insinuation meant. And none necessary.

The Holocaust, also known as the Shoah, was a genocide during World War II in which Nazi Germany, aided by local collaborators, systematically murdered some six million European Jews—around two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe—between 1941 and 1945.[c] Jews were targeted for extermination as part of a larger event during the Holocaust era, in which Germany and its collaborators persecuted and murdered other groups, including Slavs (chiefly ethnic Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, and Soviet citizens), the Roma, the "incurably sick", political and religious dissenters such as communists and Jehovah's Witnesses, and gay men.