Fire Engineering Training Community2019-09-15T10:47:35ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNastahttps://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1534491793?profile=RESIZE_48X48&width=48&height=48&crop=1%3A1https://community.fireengineering.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=195d8ude08p6w&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSurvey (Life Over The Fire Service)tag:community.fireengineering.com,2019-07-07:1219672:Topic:6533192019-07-07T16:53:53.588ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p><a href="https://forms.gle/7Qz5Yj9y3KWrgB119">https://forms.gle/7Qz5Yj9y3KWrgB119</a></p>
<p>As a thirty-plus year veteran of the fire service, with the last nineteen years as a member of the Chicago Fire Department, I have experienced many of the emotional/psychological and physical side effects that are commonly associated with this occupation. It wasn’t until I spent nearly three years in research and development (R&amp;D), a forty-hour position, did I realize how nearly inevitable these…</p>
<p><a href="https://forms.gle/7Qz5Yj9y3KWrgB119">https://forms.gle/7Qz5Yj9y3KWrgB119</a></p>
<p>As a thirty-plus year veteran of the fire service, with the last nineteen years as a member of the Chicago Fire Department, I have experienced many of the emotional/psychological and physical side effects that are commonly associated with this occupation. It wasn’t until I spent nearly three years in research and development (R&amp;D), a forty-hour position, did I realize how nearly inevitable these negative side effects have become. Almost as if they are an accepted consequence of being a firefighter and/or a paramedic. The majority of my time in R&amp;D was spent studying cancer biology, metabolic physiology, plant-based pharmacokinetics (phytoceuticals), and longevity. There still exists a great deal of questions concerning the physical, emotional, and psychological side effects of the fire service which continue to go unanswered. Although great strides are being made, there remains one area that I have found to be consistently overlooked or omitted all together, our spiritual health. For this reason, I am now pursuing a PhD in Christian Psychology to better understand the link between our physical-being and our spiritual-being.</p>
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<p>I created an anonymous survey to collect data in helping provide a better understanding of the emotional and psychological side effects experienced by the spouse/significant other of first responders. With this information we may be able to develop more realistic and more accurate awareness programs, as well as support services to reduce the unwanted and unforeseen negative outcomes common within the home life of first responders. Data to be collected by "Surviving Life Ministries".</p>
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<p>Above, you will find a link to the survey, which may need to be copied and pasted. Once you/spouse have completed the survey, just click on the “submit” and the data will be sent to a secured site where none of your personal information will be collected. We, at Surviving Life Ministries, want to thank you in advance for your participation in helping us give back to the first responders and their families.</p>
<p>Blessed health,</p>
<p>Brett Snow</p>
<p> </p> Is training really the solution for performance problems?tag:community.fireengineering.com,2019-01-16:1219672:Topic:6505422019-01-16T19:27:13.680ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>How Good is Good? Improving Emergency Operations Through Performance Analysis</p>
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<li>Dave Donohue</li>
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<p><em>The Fire Chief has approached you following a recent fire. She states that the crews took too long to deploy the first hose line, causing the fire to burn longer. She also noted that, in general, it takes too long for fire-ground operations to take place, including entry into the building, raising ground ladders, and beginning ventilation. She is tasking you with…</em></p>
<p>How Good is Good? Improving Emergency Operations Through Performance Analysis</p>
<ul>
<li>Dave Donohue</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p><em>The Fire Chief has approached you following a recent fire. She states that the crews took too long to deploy the first hose line, causing the fire to burn longer. She also noted that, in general, it takes too long for fire-ground operations to take place, including entry into the building, raising ground ladders, and beginning ventilation. She is tasking you with developing a training plan that will address these issues and improve your departments’ fire-ground operations.</em></p>
<p>Over the course of a fire and EMS career, organizations may spend over $250,000 in total costs, training responders. And this holds true whether the responders are career or volunteer. With funding for government services expected to drop over the next twenty-years, coupled with demographic and hiring changes in the emergency services trades, fire and EMS organizations need to work to ensure that personnel are well trained while using funds wisely. Analyzing performance and determining the cause of performance failures allows departments to apply solutions to improve performance and community outcomes and balance training with other causes of performance failure.</p>
<p>Performance Analysis</p>
<p>Fire and EMS personnel are expected to perform tasks in order to meet the mission of the organization. Successful performance is defined by the standards that the organization has set for itself. Departments may use legal standards, which are common in EMS, industry standards, such as National Fire Protection Association Standards, or develop defensible standards which meet the community’s unique needs. Regardless of the standards origin, the adoption by the organization is critical to establishing minimum performance. Without an adopted standard, any performance at an emergency incident meets the established standard set by the organization.</p>
<p>Standards may be based on set procedure, outcomes, or a combination. For example, EMS standards tend to be procedure-based where certain activities and procedures are performed in sequence and based on previous findings or actions. Performance on fire-grounds tends to either be outcome-based or a combination of outcome and procedure, such as determining whether to operate offensively or defensively based on the findings during size-up.</p>
<p>Performance may be assessed at the emergency scene or during training evolutions. The actions taken are measured against the department standard. If the performance does not meet the standard, there is a performance gap. Frequently, the initial reaction is to apply training in order to address the gap. This is premature as additional assessment should be conducted to determine if the performance gap is a training issue or is caused by some other issue. In fact, training is frequently not effective in addressing many performance gaps.</p>
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<p>Causes of Performance Failure and Gaps</p>
<p>There are many causes of performance failure, some of which are organizational issues and some individually based. Equipment failure is a common cause of performance failure. Maintenance of equipment is cited as a frequent cause of performance failure. Equipment that is not properly maintained, that is subject to breakdown, or that is no longer able to perform its assigned role can lead to performance failures and delays at emergency incidents. Fire and Emergency Medical Services frequently attempt to use equipment for purposes that are not within the design specifications, such as using ladders for horizontal access or using apparatus in unique and novel ways. While this is done with the best of intentions, the equipment cannot be expected to perform at peak efficiency and may not be able to perform to the level desired. These actions may also impact future performance as the equipment has been damaged in some way.</p>
<p>Organizational support for operations may also impact performance. Organizations are responsible for staffing, providing support equipment such as personal protective equipment, work-load, and incentives for behavior. If any of these are lacking, the ability to perform will be affected. For example, as the crew size has changed, the ability of crews to perform tasks in a timely manner has also diminished. Organizations balance crew size, station location, and department size against community expectations, needs, and resources. If expanding crew size or increasing the number of stations can be justified against the competing priorities of the community, then changes may be made. However, if support does not match the standard of performance, then the performance standard must be adjusted to recognize the organizational reality.</p>
<p>Individual capability also impacts performance and must be addressed within the standard of performance. Emergency responders, whether fire or EMS, are tasked with physical performance while under physically demanding conditions. Fire fighters routinely operate while wearing half their body weight in equipment that diminishes the ability to shed excess heat, which limits movement, and diminishes the body’s ability to sense its surroundings. EMS personnel carry equipment that is bulky and poorly balanced and then are expected to lift and move patients and perform both fine motor skills, such as starting IV’s and physically demanding skills, such as performing CPR. The ability of the human body to perform, both cognitively and physically, is limited with age, genetics, and personal history all playing a part. Similarly, individual motivation will play a role in individual capacity. Emergency responders have different priorities, time commitments, and interests. These will all play a part in how well they are able to prepare themselves, how they manage stress, and how quickly they recover from physical and mental loads placed on them. Time management, personal obligations and interests, and off-duty activities and preparation serve as the critical components to individual motivation for task success.</p>
<p>Finally lack of training, either initial or currency, may be the cause of performance failure. If personnel have not been trained, or more importantly, the training has not been reemphasized through follow on training, feedback, and mentoring following the initial period of training, then performance will suffer. Training is key to individual performance, but it is not the only, or even primary, cause of poor performance.</p>
<p>Fixing the Problem</p>
<p>Once the root cause of the performance failure has been identified, strategies can be developed to address the cause and improve performance. The following chart identifies causes of performance failure and methods for addressing the issue.</p>
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<tbody><tr><td width="319"><p><strong>Cause</strong></p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p><strong>Remedy</strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Failure to maintain equipment</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Develop and implement a maintenance schedule</p>
<p>Repair equipment</p>
<p>Provide job aids to help with equipment maintenance</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Equipment broken</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Repair or dispose and replace</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Equipment obsolete</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Dispose and replace if equipment is needed</p>
<p>Identify equipment in other organizations that can be called on</p>
<p>Assign task to agency/organization with appropriate equipment</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Equipment not appropriate for task</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Do not use equipment that is inappropriate for the assigned task</p>
<p>Develop a list of equipment that is available from other organizations and that may be called for</p>
<p>Develop memorandums/agreements for unique equipment</p>
<p>If feasible, purchase appropriate equipment</p>
<p>Assign task to agency/organization with appropriate equipment</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Lack of safety equipment</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Provide safety equipment</p>
<p>Assign task to agency/organization with appropriate equipment</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Inadequate staffing</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Delay task until appropriate trained, qualified, and competent staff can be assembled</p>
<p>Seek additional staffing if justified</p>
<p>Assign task to agency/organization with adequate staff</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Individual capability</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Ensure that personnel are trained, qualified, and competent</p>
<p>Ensure work-rest cycles</p>
<p>Ensure physical capabilities of personnel</p>
<p>Ensure that spiritual/mental capabilities of personnel are addressed</p>
<p>Provide adequate off-duty recovery</p>
<p>Ensure overall health of individuals</p>
<p>Return sick or injured personnel home</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="319"><p>Training</p>
</td>
<td width="319"><p>Ensure initial training meets expected performance</p>
<p>Provide follow on training that ensures minimum performance levels are met</p>
<p>Provide mentorship opportunities to reinforce training</p>
<p>Provide feedback on performance and expectations on a regular bases</p>
<p>Address any training gaps when identified</p>
<p>Develop a training plan that assesses expected levels of performance and corrects deficiencies when they are identified</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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<p>Conclusion</p>
<p>Establishing performance standards for any organization is the first step to determining effectiveness. Once the standards are established and personnel are capable of meeting those standards, regular assessment will allow leadership to determine priorities for performance improvement, support requests for funds, and describe the importance and impact of the fire and EMS organization on the community.</p>
<p><em>After reviewing the Chief’s issues, you discover that the engine that responded has had significant issues with engaging the pump, the crew size has been reduced by one due to budget cuts, and that the ventilation fan is prone to flooding due to lack of familiarity. With these findings, you work with the Chief to move forward proposals to fund the purchase of a new engine and increase staff and develop a short training class and job aid on how to properly start and operate the ventilation fan. Based on your research, the City Council funds your requests for a new fire engine and a phased approach to increase staffing over the next three years.</em></p> Maintaining the Aggressive Firefightertag:community.fireengineering.com,2018-09-24:1219672:Topic:6472362018-09-24T21:05:44.139ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p><br></br> September 20, 2018</p>
<p>I can't tell you how often I have heard, "This is the way it has always been done." Does this mean they are unable to make any other decisions when faced with an emergency? Every firefighter wants to be a good firefighter but sometimes we must ask ourselves, is good enough really good enough? Let’s talk vacant structures for a second, is a vacant structure vacant because you know nobody has lived in it for weeks or months and it looks run down? The answer is…</p>
<p><br/> September 20, 2018</p>
<p>I can't tell you how often I have heard, "This is the way it has always been done." Does this mean they are unable to make any other decisions when faced with an emergency? Every firefighter wants to be a good firefighter but sometimes we must ask ourselves, is good enough really good enough? Let’s talk vacant structures for a second, is a vacant structure vacant because you know nobody has lived in it for weeks or months and it looks run down? The answer is no structure is vacant until its searched and deemed all clear.</p>
<p><br/> I often wonder if we have brainwashed our personnel that because a certain tactic has always worked there is no other way of doing things, we must remember building materials and furniture materials have all changed in the past several years and continue to change. Being stuck in an old way and not staying up with the times can be dangerous. Remember, you cannot use 1990 technologies to service 2018 problems. There is much argument on opinion of an aggressive fire attack, first I must say that regardless how safe you try to make a scene it is still dangerous, fighting fire is dangerous. There is only one way to make a fire scene totally safe and that is to tell communications not to page you out at all. That’s not an option so we must face the fact that fighting fire is dangerous. My worst nightmare is the day I may have to tell one of my firefighters' significant others that their loved one will not be coming home. All we can do is train hard and work hard, but the danger is still there.</p>
<p><br/> I try my best to error on the side of safety and make sure that the number one priority on the fire scene — firefighters — are not placed in a situation where common sense is traded for tradition. Our corporate culture must be the concept that no property is worth a firefighter's life. Back to the vacant house, if there is not a room that is searchable then you can’t search. We should also not be in a situation of trading the lives of firefighters for the lives of victims who are not be savable.<br/> The operation must first begin with size-up to enable the incident commander to decide which mode to operate in — offensive or defensive. The purpose is to accomplish a known rescue and get out, which may force a change in the two-in-two-out thinking mentality.</p>
<p><br/> <em><strong>Defensive mode</strong></em><br/> The defensive mode is chosen to isolate or stabilize and incident to ensure it does not get any worse. This may mean sacrificing the building on fire to save others that are not involved.</p>
<p>A defensive operation should be initiated when fire conditions prevent an interior attack such as when the structure is unsafe for firefighters to enter and no civilian lives can be saved and when the fire is beyond control.</p>
<p><br/> During the defensive operation, place large exterior fire streams between the fire and the exposures to prevent fire extension. When possible deploy master streams and control the perimeter to prevent firefighter entry into collapse area.</p>
<p><br/> To ensure firefighter safety near or around structures that may collapse, collapse zones should be established based on the vertical collapse danger zone that is minimally the full height of the wall and a horizontal collapse danger zone that is minimally the full length of the wall.</p>
<p><br/> Factors to consider when establishing collapse potential include:</p>
<p><br/> • Building class/construction</p>
<p><br/> • Type of occupancy</p>
<p><br/> • Fire duration</p>
<p><br/> • Fire location/size</p>
<p><br/> • Bulges in walls</p>
<p><br/> • Cracks in walls, either exterior or interior</p>
<p><br/> • Sounds of structural movement</p>
<p><br/> • Water flowing through exterior masonry walls</p>
<p><br/> • Water run-off is smaller in quantity than amount being pumped by apparatus</p>
<p><br/> • Truss construction with direct fire involvement for longer than 5-10 minutes</p>
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<p>You should consider the placement of apparatus to prevent injury or damage when the initial or subsequent structures collapse. Attempt to place apparatus in a position that allows for safety should the fire location impinge upon apparatus. And the first defensive line should be placed to protect life, and emergency egress, then placed to protect the most endangered exposure. The second line will be placed using the same criteria.</p>
<p><br/> In addition, consider hazardous processes when deploying initial lines; they may endanger multiple occupancies. Exposure lines work best by cooling the exterior of the exposure being protected, then additional lines may be effective when water is put on the original fire. Also, use the most appropriate appliance to deliver the amount of water required to control the fire in the most effective fashion, such as blitz nozzles for a rapid ground level attack.</p>
<p><br/>Offensive and defensive modes are separate tactics. A defensive attack may be used to set up for a quicker interior attack (transitional attack), but they should not occur at the same time. The purpose of a transitional attack is merely to slow the progress of the fire and to cool down the interior temperatures. I don’t see anything wrong with hitting it from the exterior for 60-90 seconds and then transiting to an offensive attack. The incident commander must announce the strategy when transitioning and ensure all personnel are aware of the fact and that a PAR is completed prior to a complete tactical shift.</p>
<p><br/> <em><strong>Offensive mode</strong></em><br/> An offensive mode involves taking direct action to mitigate the problem. This means an aggressive interior attack will be used because initial crews believe there is a chance that occupants may be inside the structure and conditions may be such that there could still be a savable person inside. The aggressive attack, getting inside, doing a search, working the handlines at the seat of the fire and saving lives.</p>
<p><br/> In addition, ensure that initial risk assessment has confirmed that the structure is not so involved that collapse is imminent, fire dynamics are understood, truss impingement times can be estimated with some accuracy, two-in-two-out policy is adhered to and that enough resources are present to deal with both fire attack and rescue tactics.</p>
<p><br/> More lives are saved by putting the fire out as quickly as possible. And the rapid location, confinement and extinguishment of the fire depend on proper hose selection and placement, big fire, big water. <br/> Here are some other considerations for an offensive attack.</p>
<p><br/> • Coordinated and communicated ventilation.</p>
<p><br/> • Company officers must direct the activities of the crew.</p>
<p><br/> • The second line stretched should be a back-up line of the same size or larger than the first line deployed.</p>
<p><br/> • Fighting the fire from the unburned side is not always an option; select the option that allows for the largest amount of fire extinguishment.</p>
<p><br/> • If the next in engine or tanker may not get on scene before your water tank is empty, get your own water supply line if possible.</p>
<p><br/> • Advise ability to obtain a water supply line with initial size-up report, such as a close hydrant or pond.</p>
<p><br/> • When possible, protect the main areas of egress, both for victims and firefighters.</p>
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<p>You should always check for hidden fires. A fire will burn on six sides, four walls, a ceiling and a floor. Make sure fire is extinguished in all sides. Finally, always coordinate interior fire attacks with exterior operations. An aggressive attack means you are maximizing your efficiency and effectiveness and maximize the use of your resources. Lastly in the words of FDNY Lt. Ray McCormick “if you want to improve safety on the fire ground, put the damned fire out”.</p>
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<p>Respectfully, <br/> Jeremy Perrien <br/> Scott County Rural <br/> Fire Protection District<br/> Fire Chief</p>
<p></p> FDNY Rescue 4 Documentarytag:community.fireengineering.com,2018-09-21:1219672:Topic:6472162018-09-21T13:19:02.952ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>Looking for some help.</p>
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<p>I'm trying to find a documentary that featured FDNY's Rescue 4. It included the Father's Day Fire, 9/11, and the airline crash in Queens. It used to be on Youtube and has since been taken down. Does anyone know where I can find it?</p>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Looking for some help.</p>
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<p>I'm trying to find a documentary that featured FDNY's Rescue 4. It included the Father's Day Fire, 9/11, and the airline crash in Queens. It used to be on Youtube and has since been taken down. Does anyone know where I can find it?</p>
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<p>Thanks</p> Pro Bar vs. Paratech Hooligan vs Leatherheadtag:community.fireengineering.com,2018-08-22:1219672:Topic:6467262018-08-22T03:11:54.286ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>I'm trying to find out the particulars of the different tools. I am partial to to the Pro bars but a lot of that is because for the longest time we had the choice between the pro bar and the old 3 piece Paratech "hooligans".</p>
<p>I am noticing now that a lot of companies have come out with their own single piece "halligan" type tools and i was wondering if any of you had any specifics on them.</p>
<p>We all know about the pro bar but the two that I have no experience with are the Paratech…</p>
<p>I'm trying to find out the particulars of the different tools. I am partial to to the Pro bars but a lot of that is because for the longest time we had the choice between the pro bar and the old 3 piece Paratech "hooligans".</p>
<p>I am noticing now that a lot of companies have come out with their own single piece "halligan" type tools and i was wondering if any of you had any specifics on them.</p>
<p>We all know about the pro bar but the two that I have no experience with are the Paratech SPF (Single Piece forged) Hooligan and this LeatherHead Single piece tool.</p>
<p>Imitation is the best for of flattery I guess, but did they get it right? do any of you know how these tools are made? did they cut any corners on the design or manufacturing processes that would make it an inferior tool? </p>
<p>Thanks guys, </p> Aerial Ladder Slidetag:community.fireengineering.com,2018-03-11:1219672:Topic:6449112018-03-11T02:58:17.698ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Is there anyone out there who has been trained, told, or shown how to make an emergency bailout down an aerial ladder? (Picture attached)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Is there anyone out there who has been trained, told, or shown how to make an emergency bailout down an aerial ladder? (Picture attached)</span></p> Fire Safety issues in Indian building'stag:community.fireengineering.com,2018-01-30:1219672:Topic:6444282018-01-30T21:44:31.060ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
Everyone is aware that fire can happen at any time anywhere, it does not need specific time and place to happen, it only needs three things fuel, air and oxygen to took place. We all are aware; we have immense fuel and sources of ignitions at our home and our workplaces. We all are talking about the need for fire prevention and protection at these places. We have many life safety acts and rules frame by our government to secure our life safety. Till we are loose thousands of lives and property…
Everyone is aware that fire can happen at any time anywhere, it does not need specific time and place to happen, it only needs three things fuel, air and oxygen to took place. We all are aware; we have immense fuel and sources of ignitions at our home and our workplaces. We all are talking about the need for fire prevention and protection at these places. We have many life safety acts and rules frame by our government to secure our life safety. Till we are loose thousands of lives and property in incidents like Kumbakonam fire, AMRI Hospital fire, Mantralya fire and many other fire incidents. Where are we lacking? What is a problem? Why are we losing a life and property in fire incidents? IFSTA FAE EXAM 2017tag:community.fireengineering.com,2017-11-01:1219672:Topic:6417902017-11-01T01:54:43.295ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>The State of Illinois has gone to the IFSTA FAE exam test from our own State run tests. Does anyone have any current study guides or tips for taking this test that have already taken this test? It is from the 3rd edition pumping apparatus book. Any help would be great. Please email me direct at truckie45@sbcglobal.net.Thanks, joe<a class="continue-link" href="http://community.fireengineering.com/xn/detail/1219672:Topic:641578?xg_source=activity"></a></p>
<p>The State of Illinois has gone to the IFSTA FAE exam test from our own State run tests. Does anyone have any current study guides or tips for taking this test that have already taken this test? It is from the 3rd edition pumping apparatus book. Any help would be great. Please email me direct at truckie45@sbcglobal.net.Thanks, joe<a class="continue-link" href="http://community.fireengineering.com/xn/detail/1219672:Topic:641578?xg_source=activity"></a></p> IFSTA FAE EXAMtag:community.fireengineering.com,2017-11-01:1219672:Topic:6415782017-11-01T01:45:58.164ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>The State of Illinois has gone to the IFSTA FAE exam test from our own State run tests. Does anyone have any current study guides or tips for taking this test that have already taken this test? It is from the <span>3rd edition pumping apparatus book. Any help would be great. Please email me direct at truckie45@sbcglobal.net.</span></p>
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<p><span>Thanks, joe</span></p>
<p>The State of Illinois has gone to the IFSTA FAE exam test from our own State run tests. Does anyone have any current study guides or tips for taking this test that have already taken this test? It is from the <span>3rd edition pumping apparatus book. Any help would be great. Please email me direct at truckie45@sbcglobal.net.</span></p>
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<p><span>Thanks, joe</span></p> Exterior and Interior Operations, Fire Behaviortag:community.fireengineering.com,2017-10-26:1219672:Topic:6416312017-10-26T01:04:02.078ZMike Nastahttps://community.fireengineering.com/profile/MikeNasta
<p>I was recently having a discussion with a member of another FD and during this discussion we began talking about a call in the past (as you know us firefighters like to do). He mentioned that he was interior moving down a hallway toward the fire room when someone operating outside sprayed water in through the window into the fire room which "caused it to flashover" so he pulled his crew back "saving their lives".</p>
<p>I was recently having a discussion with a member of another FD and during this discussion we began talking about a call in the past (as you know us firefighters like to do). He mentioned that he was interior moving down a hallway toward the fire room when someone operating outside sprayed water in through the window into the fire room which "caused it to flashover" so he pulled his crew back "saving their lives".</p>