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Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

I stated in another thread that I didn't see if feasible for the Pacers to be able to get JJ either this year or next.

"IF" all the stars were alaigned perfectly, a trade of Augstin expiring, Plumlee, and 013 1st for Redick could work.

The Magic would get a young player in Plumlee at 1 mil, a pick in Pacers 013 1st, and Agustin's 3.5 mil expiring contract.

The Pacers would either have to feel with the addition of JJ they can win the EFC and compete for a championship this year for chances are they wouldn't be able to re-sign JJ. It's a big gamble. A gamble the Pacers would have to feel would payoff.

IF again, DWest would re-sign for 10 mil or less and JJ would re-sign for 7 mil, I believe the Pacers could fill out the bench with 3-5 mil.

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

Including the game vs the Pacers I've seen 5 other Orlando games, now I admit that I didn't watch each of them from beginning to end but on 3 of them I've watched 3 quarters worth and I think I saw half of one and almost all of the other game.

Again I didn't sit and focus on J.J. Redick, but like all of you I have a synergy account as well so I could if I wanted to go back and watch individual plays. But I just don't have the desire or energy to do that right now.

I guess my impression of him from my limited viewing is still the same as it always was. He's a poor man to man defender but can recover laterally enough to cover an area (zone). So in other words Mike Dunleavy.

But again, by no means am I an expert.

Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

I have no use for Boris Diaw but I understand that San Antonio has made a good role for him. I'll give him this, unlike Troy he at least will try on defense so in that respect he's not as bad.

Matt Bonner also has an important role on the Spurs yet I would rather gouge out my eyes than watch him in a pacers uniform.

You know he was the starting power forward for a team that went to western conference finals right? if he was a bad as you keep thinking he is Pop would have replaced his a** with somebody else without a problem, not only that but in the off season the Spurs also decided to give him an extension.

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

You know he was the starting power forward for a team that went to western conference finals right? if he was a bad as you keep thinking he is Pop would have replaced his a** with somebody else without a problem, not only that but in the off season the Spurs also decided to give him an extension.

Hey I already said Bill Walton agree's with you, what more do you want.

Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

He's referring to me, I said with the Bobcats Diaw sucked. I also took it farther by saying I thought Diaw sucked in general.

Obviously Bill Walton disagree's with me.

Did you happen to catch the Spurs game last night? You just need to admit you are wrong about Diaw. As much as many hate to do it, they need to admit Vnzla was right. Remember, he's owned up he was wrong about signing DWest. Being wrong works both ways.

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

It's so obvious who hasn't watched Orlando play a game this season, except perhaps if they played the Pacers. Reddick is not a poor defender, and he certainly isn't just a shooter. Some of you guys are worst than ESPN with your fabricated story lines about players you have little to no familiarity of.

For what I see it looks like some people don't remember those games either, I mean how you forget Big Baby pretty much destroying the Pacers averaging 20 and 10 on the playoffs last year? yes the Pacers won that series but for what I remember they didn't have an answer for the guy.

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

For what I see it looks like some people don't remember those games either, I mean how you forget Big Baby pretty much destroying the Pacers averaging 20 and 10 on the playoffs last year? yes the Pacers won that series but for what I remember they didn't have an answer for the guy.

He averaged 20 points on 18 shots. I don't think JR Smith could be that inefficient.

Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

For what I see it looks like some people don't remember those games either, I mean how you forget Big Baby pretty much destroying the Pacers averaging 20 and 10 on the playoffs last year? yes the Pacers won that series but for what I remember they didn't have an answer for the guy.

I will at some point in time try and find it but there was an interview with Frank, I don't remember right now who it was with, where he said the goal during that series was to let Davis run wild and shut down their perimeter attack.

Don't get me wrong it's not like they didn't defend him at all but they pretty much focused on one on one defense vs. him and not trying to get the ball out of his hands.

Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

For what I see it looks like some people don't remember those games either, I mean how you forget Big Baby pretty much destroying the Pacers averaging 20 and 10 on the playoffs last year? yes the Pacers won that series but for what I remember they didn't have an answer for the guy.

Man, don't bring that out again. We've been over that already. The Pacers chose not to help on Davis at all, since they didn't think Orlando could win if they stayed home on the shooters. Even though Davis had an epic series (he made WAY more long jumpshots than I thought he was capable of), the Pacers won that one easy.

Yes Big Baby is averaging 15 & 7, guess what Troy Murphy avg. 14 & 12 one year for us to but that doesn't mean I want him back on the team either. Neither play a lick of defense and I'm not sure that Davis is much more physical even though he has the tools to be.

Ok, now I've got to argue the other side. I'd take Davis ten times out of ten over Troy Murphy. It's not fair to compare the two of them; Davis is a far superior player.

But I wouldn't give up Danny for Davis and a 3-month rental of Redick.

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Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

Look, this discussion of trading Danny is simply not worth continuing before the summer. Until summer, Danny is untradable.

If I'm another team, I wouldn't look at Danny unless he's healthy the rest of the season. Too much risk. If you trade for a guy that's injured, you're an idiot. End of story.

If I'm the Pacers, you don't trade Danny unless you're positive that he won't come back from the injury. Until then, he's more valuable to you than to anyone else. And if he's not going to come back from his injury, then nobody's gonna want to trade for him anyway.

So any trade that includes Danny is gonna be disagreeable to both sides. There's not a fair trade to be had at this point.

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Re: RicBucher, Pacers interested in JJ Redick.

I will at some point in time try and find it but there was an interview with Frank, I don't remember right now who it was with, where he said the goal during that series was to let Davis run wild and shut down their perimeter attack.

Don't get me wrong it's not like they didn't defend him at all but they pretty much focused on one on one defense vs. him and not trying to get the ball out of his hands.

Yeah but if he was as garbage as many of you think shouldn't anybody on the Pacers be able to stop this garbage player? I mean if Hibbert ever averages 20 and 10 against anybody on a series many here would be ready to name him the best center to ever play in a Pacers uniform right? hell Roy Hibbert was not even able to average 20 and 10 against this "garbage defender" called Glen Davis.

And if Roy averages 20 and 10 and some coach comes up and tell us that that was the strategy how many here are going to listen to that? by the way is not like Big Baby is averaging way below 20/10 for the year, his average so far is 15 and 7.

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