Do to the massive debt, eventually all entitlements will come to an end. Civil war? More like anarchy when they don't get their food stamps....

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You said a "mouthful", "Entitlements/Welfare" has been going on for about 66+ years, since that Communist Fake Ass of a President came into office, that of "FDR", but the real party will start once the "Entitlement/Welfare Spiget" gets totally turned off, and then all hell breaks loose! (it will be like "Helter Skelter" and "Mad Max" all rolled into one), however I'm not sure, if the "Biological Hit" will happen 1st, cause if that happens, you'll have bodies all over the place, (like raindrops on concrete), so instead of Riots/Civil War we'll have massive Crematories for cleanup time. Then again, "TPTB" might of perfected a DNA Biological Weapon to target one type of race/group and leave rest of people uneffected.

So many scenarios, that "TPTB" could do, but alas they won't tell us. And I'm sure the "Think Tanks" in the "Hidden (Invisible) Government" have already all the dynamics, strategies, moves, and pre-chess moves all mapped out. So instead of foreign Countries mapped out strategy its "Urban America" strategy that is mapped out.

As I believe this was all pre-planned 66+ years ago, and mostly centered in the Long Island/N metro area, things are too perfect for what happened in the Long Island/NY metro area for whose here, and the Companies (Defense and Military Companies of Long Island) that used to be in Long Island/NY metro area (mostly 1945 and after), and how now evaporated!.

When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck, its 1000% a "duck"

Two questions that have always bothered me when it comes to this subject:

1) WHY exactly would you want to start a civil war within the USA? Okay, your economy is running shittyT, and you have only two political parties to choose from, but... isnt it the case, that when you put some effort into it: you are able to get a job, a house, enough food to feed your family, the right to own a gun, the freedom to say what you want in the USA: its not like you are living in North Korea or Ethiopia or something....

2) The fact that 'Internet warriors' on sites like these are complaining since the beginning of the Internet, about 'revolution' and 'taking back america' using the same tired old faux-arguments, while at the same time they are ALLOWED and have the opportunity to PAY for this 'digital whining' shows there is simply no reason to start a civil war in the USA.

I think we may be looking at civil war .. or something similar .. States have been violating federal laws .. feds are going in and arresting or raiding places that are state legal .. and trying them in federal court

Two questions that have always bothered me when it comes to this subject:

1) WHY exactly would you want to start a civil war within the USA? Okay, your economy is running shittyT, and you have only two political parties to choose from, but... isnt it the case, that when you put some effort into it: you are able to get a job, a house, enough food to feed your family, the right to own a gun, the freedom to say what you want in the USA: its not like you are living in North Korea or Ethiopia or something....

2) The fact that 'Internet warriors' on sites like these are complaining since the beginning of the Internet, about 'revolution' and 'taking back america' using the same tired old faux-arguments, while at the same time they are ALLOWED and have the opportunity to PAY for this 'digital whining' shows there is simply no reason to start a civil war in the USA.

Think about it.

Quoting: Riverman 1487773

SO using your logic, it would be ok, if I owned your ass, and every dollar you earned was paid to me, as long as you have food, tv, electricity etc.? But that's ok, because you will comfortable in your slavery to me?

It's called freedom dipshit, not just a little, or maybe some freedom, but total and complete freedom.

How would it happen? What would happen? How would it effect the average citizen? Would we all be taking up guns and aiming them at family and friends with differing opinions?

Would the righty's kill the lefty's?

Instead of using guns would hackers attack the govn't websites, leak info and possibly hack other tactical targets such has power plants, water systems, rail.. etc.

Would some giant corporation step in and form it's own govn't?

Would there be martial law, and if so.. do you think some our own military soldiers would defect and defend whatever side they choose?

Would there be an Eeastern US and Western US or possibly even more... the Southern states, the NorthEastern States..etc.

I know it's pretty bleak but just something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm wondering what others are thinking?

Is a civil war even possible in the United States this day and age?

Thoughts? Opinions?

Quoting: Artlicious

The thought is the most powerful thing we have. Whatever we think about(as a whole or the majority of the whole) becomes the reality of this world. Example: If we think about war then war is what will take place...Remember that there are 7,000,000,000 people (who have the power of thought)and each one of them influences the result of our next evolving state...

If you truly understand this then you can see how we are living amongst each other today...We need to change the way we think of each other. Then none of the above will ever take place...The more we spread this simple wisdom to each other the quicker we can see the results...

I live in the suburbs, less than 10 miles from a major downtown city, and I have no firearms.

I'm screwed.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14780085

I was in the same boat 5 years ago.

Then I realized that society is a very very fragile thing indeed.

One day it's fine the next not so much.

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This is old, "TPTB" have now "DNA targeted Biological Weapons", once the dogs ("Biological Targeted Weapon") released, plus non lethal control weapons, you ain't seen nothing yet!, this is going to be fun to watch with all certain people dropping dead, "Thomas Malthus would be laughing all the way to his grave" (if he were alive)

Just hope "TPTB" have the "Crematories" ready and running full blast when the "Event" happens. But I would also include some type jewish people in the mix, like "Kapo jewish" (that work for "USDOJ"), "Liar/Crooked jewish people", "Welfare/Entitlement jewish people" and "Non Stand-up jewish people".

Wait for gas to hit $6 then we'll see the gloves off. It'll be good vs evil. Thieves vs people following law. But as lawlessness insues then we'll see war occur within our nation. Just imagine food prices rising and fuel but people on welfare don't see their checks rise then what do you see happening?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11280962

The same thing that's happening in Greece.

Quoting: Zedakah

Think I read the same thing but it said 5$ a gallon...What happened? Nothing!

Wait for gas to hit $6 then we'll see the gloves off. It'll be good vs evil. Thieves vs people following law. But as lawlessness insues then we'll see war occur within our nation. Just imagine food prices rising and fuel but people on welfare don't see their checks rise then what do you see happening?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11280962

The same thing that's happening in Greece.

Quoting: Zedakah

Think I read the same thing but it said 5$ a gallon...What happened? Nothing!

Quoting: AxE-i-DeNt

nothing? I have money in the bank and I'm spending very little these days. No cable, no tv, no stereo, no ipod or icrap here. Electric bill through the winter never went over $18.50. Pre-paid cell, maybe $4-5 a month. It's my way of protesting. Anyone with half a brain is scaling back or dropping out and becoming a minimalist. That's something.....

OK, first off, I realize that many on here work for the government in order to get paid for spreading propaganda.

With that being said, it is not the American People who want revolution, but it is the fact that our nation is being destroyed by design. I came to this conclusion after asking myself the following question, what if my desire was to destroy America, and all her freedoms. What if America would have stood in the way of A world government, or a world currency? How would I take her down. I would destroy her from within.

If I wanted america to fail, I would:

Number one give the country to the Federal Reserve!Run trade deficits for over 30 years.export all the jobs over seaslet big companies like GE, Exxon and banks pay no taxesI would destroy the dollar through the printing of moneyI would have boarders I would refuse to enforceI would bankrupt the states.I would become the biggest debtor nation in the history of mankind.I would seek treatments instead of cures.I would kill all innovations, drive instead of fly etc.I would regulate everythingI would tax everything that moves.I would make banking the nations biggest industryI would put 40,000,000 / 40 million people on the government take, either directly employed or contracted by governmentI would prefer wall street over main streetI would let computers perform all the trades on Wall StreetI would make the federal reserve the largest purchaser of treasuriesI would call attacking foreign nations fighting for freedomI would pretend to hold free elections, but actually they would be rigged.I would create a police state that was harder to get out of then to get into.I would create the largest prison population per capita on earth.I would teach my citizens to do nothing but shop, borrow, and spend.I would string everyone out on pharmaceutical drugs and narcotics all legal of coarse.I would provide illegal drugs for those too poor to afford the legal onesI would pretend that gambling, things like lotteries, and casinos were places to get rich.I would remove all religion, and make government a religionI would destroy the food source and contaminate it with GMO's.I would destroy fresh water with fracking and drilling and contamination, then charge people for the privledgeI would arrest anyone trying to grow their own food, catch rain water, or milk a cowI would hand over guns to the drug cartels.I would have my banks launder their money through the drug cartels.I would have my soldiers guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan then wage war on the streets of America once it gets hereI would create a welfare state, and put everyone on the take.I would create a system called social security and then take the moneyI would make government the largest holder of private housing in the United States through Fannie, and FreddieI would create a fake stock market held up on a continuous form of money injectionI would downsize everthing, especially industry such as steel, coal, etc.I would create man made global warming even though every planet in our solar system is currently going through climate changeI would put a gadget in everyones hands for entertainment, and allow only technology that would brainwash or enslave and track their every move.I would put a computer chip in everyones car that would allow me to track it's every moveI would create the worlds largest big borther data base logging every key stroke of every "free"citzen in the United States.I would have the worlds largest military in the world, in fact America accounts for almost 48% of the entire worlds militaryI would reward broken families, the more broken, the more payouts you receiveI would have a nation of laws ruled by outlaws.I would make one generation fight fascism, and then turn around and make their children pay for fascism in America.I would take from those in only in the middle and give only to those on top, and on the bottomI would take land, any land I wanted, and call it emminant domainI would make people think they own things, but from birth to death, make them pay for the right to own itI would create schools for indoctorination, and federalize the entire system from sea to shinning seaI would subsidize college through loans until college was no longer affordable and those graduating were doing so into financial slaveryI would replace real jobs with service sector jobs, want a job at Mcdonalds?I would Create a health care plan that was tied directly to the IRS, if you don't get health care and report it, pay a fine do the Federal ReserveI would create a forced health care plan that would exempt business I preffered with exemptions, and all those in congress that actually passed it would be exemptI would have 30,000 predator drones.I would have TSA fondle granny, feel up Miss America and liitle children.I would create no fly lists.I would create a collection agency that could take everything you have with the point of a finger.I would call everything truthful a conspiracyI would put anyone patriotic on a terrorist watch listI would create a boogy man so that my population would live in fearI would start wars without congressional approvalI would have tons of secret societies, secret meetings, and secret dealingsI would make one family in paticular above the law, above audit, and above question. THe families of the Federal ReserveI would make anyone protesting look idiotic, teaparty, occupy, anonymous, truthers, birthers, call them namesI would put returning veterans who fought over seas on terrorist watch listsI would put supporters of candidates I didn't like on watch listsI would harass anyone speaking outI would control the internet if not with sopa then with crispaI would outlaw privacyI would outlaw the constitution.I would force people to buy something from private individuals.I would make the Federal Reserve all powerfulI would do away with the freedom of speech.I would create the NSAA and have people disappear that spoke out.I would use predator drones to assassinate American Citizens.I would create a system of fear, fear the government, fear us, fear the unknown.I would make our nation hated around the world by other nations.I would give the United Nations powers over our government.I would give billions in foreign aid to countries that hate us.I would create a tax code so complex that 25 tax firms all doing the same return all come up with a different amount owed.I would hand over the media to giant corporations making watch dogs, lapdogs.I would assassinate those who speak out.I would put servalience cameras on every street corner, and in every store.I would do whatever the fuck I wanted to do, and call it LAW!I would turn the police into a paramilitary force.I would try to disarm the citizens.I would divide, gay, straight christian, muslim, democrat, republican, tall, short, black white, etc. etc.I would tell everyone that wanted to change it to get out and vote, as if no one was voting while all the above took placeI would in short keep doing exactly what we are doing now.

That is, if I wanted to destroy the country.

SO you see, it is not crazy people asking themselves when will they start the revolution, it's the government pushing people to a breaking point to where they feel like they are completely out of options. No house, jobs, freedoms, etc. It's not by accident, and everything they are doing now is to protect their illegal occupation from the people wanting their freedoms back.

How would it happen? What would happen? How would it effect the average citizen? Would we all be taking up guns and aiming them at family and friends with differing opinions?

The military would slpit as many would not listen to the orders of turning guns on citizens and would want to end the corruption, etc.

Would the righty's kill the lefty's? I do not think it would be righty's vs lefty's, but more like those who know and understand what is going on vs those that do not. Most people would lean towards the side they thought was right or the side they think will win.

Instead of using guns would hackers attack the govn't websites, leak info and possibly hack other tactical targets such has power plants, water systems, rail.. etc.

HAckers would not be bale to attack websites as you suggest, government sites and info do not work like this. They could shut down sites with ddos etc as was done recently, but leaking info through their own sites would not occur.

Power plants, water, food, etc would be targeted by both sides depending on who and how each side could gain from it.

Would some giant corporation step in and form it's own govn't?

I would expect more local and state governments trying to grab power more than some corporation, but many corporations would back this idea. I would not expect some privitzed corporation to attempt large scale national power, like a ceasar or anything.

Would there be martial law, and if so.. do you think some our own military soldiers would defect and defend whatever side they choose?

Oy yea, martial law would be instant in order to try and topple the attempted coup. Yes, I believe soldiers to defend and switch sides as I already stated above.

Would there be an Eeastern US and Western US or possibly even more... the Southern states, the NorthEastern States..etc.

This would be a great possibility. Some states would bond together based on power and interest.

I know it's pretty bleak but just something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm wondering what others are thinking?

Is a civil war even possible in the United States this day and age?Yes, I beleive it is possible and closer than many citizens think, but not close as in this year or anything.

Civil war is no longer possible in the U.S. because, in a desire for "security", the citizens allowed the government to take all the power.

In the days of the American Revolution, ragtag rebels were able to fight and defeat the greatest empire on Earth, ONLY because they were both on the same weaponry plateau.

guns, cannons, ships

Both sides had 'em, both sides could make 'em.

Now, the establishment government has control over the infrastructure, over communications, they have stealth bombers, rocket propelled grenades, bunker busters and nuclear weapons.

There is no way a citizen-based separatist group opposing the U.S. government, could compete, because they couldn't gather the resources to produce a comparable number of troops, guns, tanks, satellites, stealth bombers or nuclear weapons.American Civil War Pt. 2: Electric Bugaloo, is a fantasy scenario.

How would it happen? What would happen? How would it effect the average citizen? Would we all be taking up guns and aiming them at family and friends with differing opinions?

The military would slpit as many would not listen to the orders of turning guns on citizens and would want to end the corruption, etc.

Would the righty's kill the lefty's? I do not think it would be righty's vs lefty's, but more like those who know and understand what is going on vs those that do not. Most people would lean towards the side they thought was right or the side they think will win.

Instead of using guns would hackers attack the govn't websites, leak info and possibly hack other tactical targets such has power plants, water systems, rail.. etc.

HAckers would not be bale to attack websites as you suggest, government sites and info do not work like this. They could shut down sites with ddos etc as was done recently, but leaking info through their own sites would not occur.

Power plants, water, food, etc would be targeted by both sides depending on who and how each side could gain from it.

Would some giant corporation step in and form it's own govn't?

I would expect more local and state governments trying to grab power more than some corporation, but many corporations would back this idea. I would not expect some privitzed corporation to attempt large scale national power, like a ceasar or anything.

Would there be martial law, and if so.. do you think some our own military soldiers would defect and defend whatever side they choose?

Oy yea, martial law would be instant in order to try and topple the attempted coup. Yes, I believe soldiers to defend and switch sides as I already stated above.

Would there be an Eeastern US and Western US or possibly even more... the Southern states, the NorthEastern States..etc.

This would be a great possibility. Some states would bond together based on power and interest.

I know it's pretty bleak but just something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm wondering what others are thinking?

Is a civil war even possible in the United States this day and age?Yes, I beleive it is possible and closer than many citizens think, but not close as in this year or anything.

Once again, just my 2 cents.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Quoting: Artlicious

Quoting: Patrick Bateman

Sorry Patrick!, it ain't going to happen!, All "TPTB" have to do is take out the "Biological DNA Targeted Weapons" and its game over, tilt. (with many dead and passed on) And they have perfected (B.D.T.W.) them already! Its the perfect way to win any "Civil War", however, probably be some people targeted for their arrogancy and lying'hood. (many who work for USDOJ as top officials, that Besmirch/Slander and utilize Federal Cases for "Political and Career" Gains/Moves of "Federal Officials". And if "TPTB" wanted to keep some individuals alive, perhaps they can give an antidote to the upcoming "B.D.T.W." (before it happens).

Civil war is no longer possible in the U.S. because, in a desire for "security", the citizens allowed the government to take all the power.

In the days of the American Revolution, ragtag rebels were able to fight and defeat the greatest empire on Earth, ONLY because they were both on the same weaponry plateau.

guns, cannons, ships

Both sides had 'em, both sides could make 'em.

Now, the establishment government has control over the infrastructure, over communications, they have stealth bombers, rocket propelled grenades, bunker busters and nuclear weapons.

There is no way a citizen-based separatist group opposing the U.S. government, could compete, because they couldn't gather the resources to produce a comparable number of troops, guns, tanks, satellites, stealth bombers or nuclear weapons.American Civil War Pt. 2: Electric Bugaloo, is a fantasy scenario.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526634

states have stealth bombers, states have rockets, states have predators, states have an all volunteer army.

I agree with you that the government isn't on the same level as the citizens. If 2% private citizens stand up, it's larger than the entire military.

It has crossed my mind - but only in relation to why this "event" was created (the Trayvon event) - I think the plan of TPTB is to create a scenario where martial law would be implemented, and then you know where they want that to go, right?

I also believe that those of us who experienced MLK's dream and his way of getting things done, have that IN US, and there are a lot of US. You know he was a good man because they killed him - he was creating unity.

Furthermore, nothing happens without God's permission and in His time. I prefer to pray for this nation. I am standing on The Word: "when the enemy comes in, like a flood I will raise up a standard against him." It is written. It is written. It is written - by God Himself. I'm standing on that.

We--my husband, my girls and I--would fight until after we ran out of ammunition, which would be a long time.

But here is the tricky part--a US civil war would not be in a vacuum, although it would indeed suck.

There are other nations that would take advantage of the division of the US and the distraction from fighting at home to wreak havoc on us and take us over from without. I am not smart enough to figure out what kind of war it would be, all I know is that we are always well prepared for the last war, never the next one. From my Marine son, I know it will be "asymmetrical" and not particularly predictable.

Good lord, I wish we here in Texas would secede already and get out on our own again. I've signed the petition and will support any candidate with my time and my money who will lead the Republic of Texas back to independence. We would not be joining the UN, either.

its not actually too far off the mark if you think about it. i mean that if you look around and read between the lines, people are really Pissed Off at being ruled and regulated to death. its not a matter of if but WHEN. also, with the Central government curtailing and making just about anything ILLEGAL, its only a matter of time until something makes the Camels back break so to speak. im just waitin till it does...