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phil maccavity wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Liverpool has been granted turnaround status , whether the people from Southampton like it or not , get over it and concentrate on improving your town centre , because there is no attractions what so ever , I am from Liverpool and have been to Southampton and believe me when I say this there is no comparison , Liverpool blows Southampton right out of the water in regards to what it has to offer to a tourist , the ships are increasing each year to Liverpool from demand , in regards to Cunard sticking with southampton well personally I think is a load of rubbish , cunard is a business looking to make money , and lots more of it and it would be daft to not to use Liverpool . Liverpool will increase and open up a new market in the north of the uk , and in regards to the recent comment regarding tempary baggage facility at Liverpool well that is correct , tempary it is . Wait until you see the new plans .

Ronn
I am sure Liverpool will get turnround status but it is not a done deal as yet
The Independent inspector has yet to report back on the amount of grant money LCC have to repay.
Also the Govt may well not favour the LCC offer of 'we will pay the money back out of revenue'!!
And there still remains the possibility of the EU looking to recoup some part of their Grant money
So it could take some time to resolve completely.
Meanwhile LCC are providing a tent on the new quayside for the passengers to embark through.
Apparently this will only be there for part of the year due to prevailing weather conditions on the Mersey.
I agree that Liverpool is far more of an attractive proposition than Soton as a visitor attraction.
This may not have been the case though 20 years ago when, despite many grand old buildings, Liverpool was rather rundown in parts
Since then Merseyside has received £2 billion in State aid to make it a vibrant and interesting city centre
Just a small proportion of this would have paid for the rejuvenation of Southampton
Finally you say that the cruise ships into Liverpool are increasing.
Interestingly the original PR campaign,. when the grant money was first allocated, called for 25 calling cruises by 2009 and a doubling by 2012.
The cruise call figures have never been above the 16 mark (!!) but it is interesting the PR blurb from Liverpool will state more than this as they count in visiting Royal Naval ships which normally are accomodated FOC

Wrong ! Peel have announced building their new terminal within 4 years in the first phase along with shangi tower skyscraper and offices and apartments !!!
And Southampton started on aid ? So what's your argument . And another thing whilst most cities and towns have stopped investing Liverpool is still building with private investment , currently there is another boom in regards to hotels , more hotels here than anywhere outside London , we have the new central village being built right now and that's is nearly as big as our new Liverpool 1 shopping centre and numerous projects look it up .....Liverpooldevelo
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