Ride a trick ski and try a 360, just a little more difficult that on a wakeboard. I don't want to seem pissed off, but you riders have no clue about the talent some of these trick skiers have. Jimmy Siemers could easily be one of the top 10 wakeboarders in the world if he wanted to. I've seen him to an exhibition pass of mainly wakeboard tricks on his trick ski, it was unreal!