Comments on Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probableTypePad2011-09-26T16:34:54ZMiami Heraldhttp://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/09/lamar-in-a-yellow-noncontact-jersey-but-golden-said-hes-probable/comments/atom.xml/SunnyDee commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdc0cc5970d2011-09-27T17:16:20Z2011-09-27T17:16:20ZSunnyDeeUpset Face - You make some good points about the stadium. I still do not think it is worth it,...<p>Upset Face -</p>
<p>You make some good points about the stadium. I still do not think it is worth it, however. The on-campus basketball stadium rarely, if ever, sells out. Most Miami fans are not alums or students. You might get less people going if the stadium is on-campus. I agree that Sun Life is cavernous. However, now that the Marlins are moving out maybe they will move the stands closer to the field. Also, some recruits like the idea of playing in a pro stadium. There was good energy at the Oklahoma game, the FSU game last year, and the OSU game this year. If this team was in contention for a national title the place would be packed.</p>canes305u commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdbfca5970d2011-09-27T17:04:05Z2011-09-27T17:04:05Zcanes305uAl: U r right on the money... We need a stadium to build some unity.. People we have the money,...<p>Al:<br />
U r right on the money... We need a stadium to build some unity.. People we have the money, we can find the land. 45,000 to 50,000 is all we need. Look at Duke that is a private school.. sure they are not good at football, but they have their own stadium and fans still show up. during basketball season u cant buy a ticket for duke basketball even when they play crap teams... U wanna know why? because they have pride and UNity in their school.. they will not allow outsiders invade and disrespect their homes, just like u wont either. so Yes we need a place we can call home and i guarantee that most if not all games would be sold out.</p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdbd330970d2011-09-27T16:22:45Z2011-09-27T16:22:45ZUpset faceAl: a new stadium, if not built on or very near the campus will not generate the campus pride you...<p>Al:</p>
<p>a new stadium, if not built on or very near the campus will not generate the campus pride you reference. Unless the school can somehow grab land in South Miami, immediately across 57th Ave., then building a stadium off campus just to say &quot;we have a stadium&quot; is fruitless.</p>AL commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e7fc8c970b2011-09-27T16:03:59Z2011-09-27T16:03:59ZALBuild a nice 45,000 capacity stadium,,tickets will become a premium once the team begin to win again, look at the...<p>Build a nice 45,000 capacity stadium,,tickets will become a premium once the team begin to win again, look at the one Minnesota has, its not big or extremely fancy,,but it serves a purpose, it holds about 45 to 50, its very nice, but the whole concept helps builds unity and pride for your school, this is what some of the players is lacking, they can say what they want, but something is lacking, listen to all the recruits who go to LSU or Alabama, these kids are looking for campus pride, they want to see it, hear it, feel it, they want to lose themselves in it, and apparently this feeling is not abundant on the U campus, or its not on the same level as some of the SEC or Big 10 schools. Hey, a stadium is not going to cure all of the canes issues, but it will help build a civic pride amongst the student body and eventually sway recruits to stay home..or else Schools like LSU, W. Virgina, Ohio State, Auburn, AL and now OU will continue to pluck out the very best players every single year. Kids have the right to go where they want to,,its a free country, but the U hae to find these funds, and stop sitting on thier butts screaming out we are a small private university, heck go the city of miami and ask for some money, go to the state, the federal government, or heck, stand on the corners of miami, and beg for it, but one have to be built. </p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdba7ba970d2011-09-27T15:48:45Z2011-09-27T15:48:45ZUpset faceSunnyDee: I agree with you in one respect and disagree in another: I agree that for the foreseeable future, we...<p>SunnyDee:</p>
<p>I agree with you in one respect and disagree in another:</p>
<p>I agree that for the foreseeable future, we will not get an on-campus stadium for all of the reasons you listed.</p>
<p>I disagree that USC does not have one. While they do not own the LA Coliseum, it is right next to their campus. Well within walking distance.</p>
<p>Plus, the college football landscape has changed in the past 10 years, certainly over the last 30. Recruits want the college atmosphere. They want 70K or more strong every home game. Canes did not have that at the OB but there was a strong tradition and history there which more than made up for it. Now, in that dump of a No-Life Stadium, we have neither. That is a killer. Having 45K in a 70K stadium is a killer. </p>
<p>There is not a college football team out there, outside of maybe Tulane, that would not have a nearly sold-out stadium for a game against Bethune-Cookman. </p>
<p>How many fans will the Canes get for this game? It is a far more important factor to recruits than you give it credit and the history, while nice, is far less important than you think.</p>Eudocimus commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435bb454a970c2011-09-27T15:41:08Z2011-09-27T15:41:08ZEudocimuscanes305u and Opa Lacka - you do know UM is maybe a quarter the size of all the schools with...<p>canes305u and Opa Lacka - you do know UM is maybe a quarter the size of all the schools with loud stadium that you&#39;re thinking of right? And that all our alumni leave south Florida after graduating? </p>
<p>A new stadium wouldn&#39;t make a bit of difference without winning - the Orange Bowl was just as empty and soulless against bad opponents towards the end. </p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdb9eb6970d2011-09-27T15:38:33Z2011-09-27T15:38:33ZUpset faceIt may be heart. It may also be lack of actual talent. Kehoe is a great motivator so I don't...<p>It may be heart. It may also be lack of actual talent. Kehoe is a great motivator so I don&#39;t think heart was the issue.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I just don&#39;t think these guys are as good as we are led to believe. Do you really think outside of Sean Spence and Lamar Miller any of our players would start for any of the top 10 teams in the country? I don&#39;t think Miller would start over Trent Richardson or Spence over Donta&#39; Hightower at Bama. </p>
<p>We have SOME good players and many average players. They were either not as good as they were hyped-up to be OR were not coached-up as we would hope. Either way, the result is the same.</p>SunnyDee commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdb9d62970d2011-09-27T15:37:32Z2011-09-27T15:37:32ZSunnyDeeWill you guys stop with this Miami needs an on-campus stadium garbage? It is NEVER going to happen. There is...<p>Will you guys stop with this Miami needs an on-campus stadium garbage? It is NEVER going to happen. There is no room for it and there aren&#39;t enough students at Miami or enough alumni to justify it. Also, Miami won 5 national championships without having it&#39;s own on-campus stadium. USC doesn&#39;t have an on-campus stadium either. You don&#39;t need it to win national championships. If the Canes were winning, the place would be loud. The stadium is not the problem. </p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e7d93a970b2011-09-27T15:29:52Z2011-09-27T15:29:52ZUpset faceAnd please stop talking about the NFL players, especially those that played at Miami 120 years ago. These recruits don't...<p>And please stop talking about the NFL players, especially those that played at Miami 120 years ago. These recruits don&#39;t care about that anymore. Most of these recruits only have memories of Miami as an average football team. They don&#39;t care that Ray Lewis or Ed Reed was a Cane. </p>
<p>As for those Canes that flourish in the NFL after lackluster college careers, what good does that do for us as Canes fans? So we suffer through 7-6 seasons just so we can point our finger at teams like GAtr trash and say, &quot;see, our guys are stars in the NFL.&quot;</p>
<p>Sorry. That does not cut it anymore. It actually makes it worse because those players failed to do anything as Hurricanes. And don&#39;t get me started on the empty stadium. I love the Hurricanes as much as anyone but if I was a recruit, I would look at places that are full every Saturday regardless of the opponent. </p>
<p>Stop being an apologist. This team is now as irrelevant as far as National Championships go as is K-State, Michigan, ND, etc. I hope it changes but I am not confident.</p>Best cfb program the last 32 years commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e7d6b3970b2011-09-27T15:26:41Z2011-09-27T15:26:41ZBest cfb program the last 32 yearsI agree upset. I agree. If they cant pound it in, it says everything. The O-line should be ashamed. Shame...<p>I agree upset. I agree. If they cant pound it in, it says everything. The O-line should be ashamed. Shame on them. My grandma (who is 90 could walk it in from 1-1/2 yds out. remember. It was less than 2 yds at one point). My fat a55 could have run it in.</p>
<p>If they had heart that is.</p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e7d19a970b2011-09-27T15:21:15Z2011-09-27T15:21:15ZUpset faceBest cfb program the last 32 years: Are you kidding? Triple-reverse? Roll out with an immobile QB? They tried that...<p>Best cfb program the last 32 years:</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Triple-reverse? Roll out with an immobile QB? They tried that on fourth down. </p>
<p>Throw to a 6-5 receiver? They did that to Clive Walford.</p>
<p>We are talking about 2 yards. 6 feet. If you cannot get that in four downs you don&#39;t deserve to win. Don&#39;t give me this nonsense about creative play calling. You really want to run a reverse so that the ball is handed off 6 yards further out? 2 yards. 220 pound tailback running behind the alleged strength of your team. You man-up or lose and guess what the Canes did?</p>
<p>I did not say Hagans carried. I said he was lead blocker. </p>canes305u commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdb7f48970d2011-09-27T15:11:28Z2011-09-27T15:11:28Zcanes305uyeah i agree Opa locka... my question is this.. when are the fans and boosters gonna make a push for...<p>yeah i agree Opa locka... my question is this.. when are the fans and boosters gonna make a push for this? we are homeless.. landshark is not our home... we need a place where kids can call home and defend it with pride.. not allowing a team like KS push them around.. do you guys not pay attention that since the OB is gone kids are not playing with heart. thats because they don&#39;t feel they have a home to defend.</p>Opa Locka commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdb7800970d2011-09-27T15:03:22Z2011-09-27T15:03:22ZOpa LockaHaving your own stadium makes all the difference in the world. The stadiums in Gainesville, Baton Rouge, and Tuscaloosa are...<p>Having your own stadium makes all the difference in the world. The stadiums in Gainesville, Baton Rouge, and Tuscaloosa are some of the most feared in college football. Having 90,000 plus fans screaming against you will intimidate anybody. Just look at how loud and crazy it sounds on Saturdays through your tv.</p>green commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435bb0252970c2011-09-27T14:40:52Z2011-09-27T14:40:52Zgreenhttp://www.facebook.com/universityofmiami UM has had far superior teams, having won many national championships in football and baseball. That means that there...<p>http://www.facebook.com/universityofmiami</p>
<p>UM has had far superior teams, having won many national championships in football and baseball. That means that there is more to write about. Far more fans, moreover, go to Hurricane games. The followers of the Hurricane blog at MiamiHerald.com outnumber those following the Golden Panthers one by about 10-1, sports editor Jorge Rojas says. </p>
<p>There is, in other words, much more readership demand for coverage of the Hurricanes than of the Golden Panthers. <br />
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/1/10</p>
<p>UM does and should get the greater share of sports coverage<br />
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/8/10</p>
<p>this isn’t The Miami Herald’s fault. Until FIU starts to matter in a big way, in a way that UM matters, there will never be that same coverage, at least not in the sports page. ... </p>
<p>But until your everyday FIU student or alumni begins to care in a significant way and specifically until it affects The Miami Herald’s bottom line, they’ll continue to pay that other school more attention.<br />
-- fiu student media 8/25/10</p>
<p>PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH</p>green commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e79ce0970b2011-09-27T14:39:45Z2011-09-27T14:39:45Zgreendlandsberg@miamiherald.com (top banana) amarques@miamiherald.com (second banana) dshalala@miami.edu (queen bee) seichorst@miami.edu (sheriff lee) who investigates the miami herald for bribery ......<p>dlandsberg@miamiherald.com (top banana)<br />
amarques@miamiherald.com (second banana)<br />
dshalala@miami.edu (queen bee)<br />
seichorst@miami.edu (sheriff lee)</p>
<p>who investigates the miami herald for bribery ...<br />
how else do you explain splashing f-i-u-don&#39;t-matter on the front page day after day ... <br />
front &amp; center ... <br />
the paper tells us they matter most when they matter least ... <br />
lest you forget ... <br />
minor-league college athletics with a make-believe fan base subsidized by the strong-arm of an unsuspecting student body warrants scant attention from a major-league metropolitan newspaper ... <br />
something&#39;s rotten at 1 herald plaza ... </p>
<p>BIGGER FISH TO FRY</p>Best cfb program the last 32 years commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435baef08970c2011-09-27T14:21:15Z2011-09-27T14:21:15ZBest cfb program the last 32 yearsthats BS upset face. You call an off tackle fake to the fb, and you sweep out with the QB...<p>thats BS upset face. You call an off tackle fake to the fb, and you sweep out with the QB or throw to one of the 6-5 receivers or TE. Try a triple option-type play. Do a double sweep with Benjamin. Anything.Anything with some imagination. By the way what are you talking about/ hagens didnt get the ball once.</p>
<p>By the way- Keityh Brown can go wherever he wants. fact is even if Miami has sanctions, they will still put players in the NFL. Sapp played in the beginning of the snactions. Ray Lewis and several othere like Bubba Franks played smack in the middle of sanctions. Santana, ed Reed, Vilma, Reggie wayne, edgerrin james, Najeh Davenport, Vilma, Shockey, all were recruited toward the end of the sanctions. Miami had no bowl game in 1997 and limited scholies 1996, 1997, 1998. In 1999, the world saw the second coming of the U with edge running for 299 yds against #3 UCLA on national TV. 2 yrs after the start of sanctions.</p>
<p>Doesnt matter. Butch came to the U, and didnt leave because of the sanctions. I&#39;ll always like him for that. he was a man of his word to these kids. I believe Golden will do the same. he will not bolt on these kids. he will work through it. THAT is what I would worry about if I was a kid, not whether they will play in a bowl for 2 yrs.</p>
<p>Keith: DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT USC WILL NOT HAVE PLAYERS DRAFTED INTO THE NFL? DO YOU NOT THINK THAT MATT BARKLEY WILL BE A FIRST ROUNDER? SERIOUSLY?</p>
<p>TH e biggest problem is our scheduling. UF has all this fake hype because of this pi55 poor schedule their first 3 games. It was the equivalent of Miami playing FAU, UAB, Duke and NC state. seriously. If Miami did that they would be 3-0 or 4-0. KSU is no pushover. Neither is OSU, I know we play anyone anytime, but the timing is what sks.<br />
</p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435bac81d970c2011-09-27T13:50:44Z2011-09-27T13:50:44ZUpset faceExactly what plays would you like to run on the 2 yard line? They tried twice off-tackle with their 220...<p>Exactly what plays would you like to run on the 2 yard line? They tried twice off-tackle with their 220 pound tailback and 240 pound fullback leading and didn&#39;t get it. </p>
<p>If you cannot score with that play, where the offensive line is supposedly the strength of your team, it does not matter what play you call. You are dead in the water.</p>
<p>You &quot;fans&quot; and armchair offensive coordinators are truly clueless. The team is not good enough. Period. Leave it at that because it is the truth. They will win some and lose some. That is what average and not-good-enough teams do. This is what the Canes will do this year. </p>
<p>Sad but true. </p>canes305u commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435ba8837970c2011-09-27T12:53:46Z2011-09-27T12:53:46Zcanes305uwe need to blame sha la al al la.. she does not care about our football tradition at the U.....<p>we need to blame sha la al al la.. she does not care about our football tradition at the U.. fire her save the canes, build anew stadium....</p>69camaro commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e70b1d970b2011-09-27T12:25:20Z2011-09-27T12:25:20Z69camaroWatched the game on tv last nite--it was ugly. The defensive side of the ball, and the coaching were absolutely...<p>Watched the game on tv last nite--it was ugly. The defensive side of the ball, and the coaching were absolutely positively terrible. I can live with a running back breaking some big plays-- especially one as fast as 33 was-- but to let that qb run thru the defense like he did- over and over and over and over and over again-- knowing that was there best weapon-- was pitiful.</p>
<p>As far as the offensive failure at the 1 yard line- if those plays were the best that team could come up with-- particularly the coaching staff-- then miami deserved to lose-- and it hurt bad to watch it--- K-State was one of the worst run defenses in the country last year-- and they kicked our buts-- so much for that great o-line. WHAT A SHAME</p>canes305u commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdabb3c970d2011-09-27T12:10:25Z2011-09-27T12:10:25Zcanes305uAre we the only F ... college team without a stadium? i think having our own stadium will improve recruiting...<p>Are we the only F ... college team without a stadium? i think having our own stadium will improve recruiting and attendance....It will be a place we can call our home.. a place were other teams will be scared to come play at.. Look at lane stadium.. that is a true football atmosphere... Land shark sucks....Tropical park is fine... lets build one there.. lets push for the city of coral gables to expand the U.. we fans/alumni deserve better....Save the canes fire shalla la la la l al al a</p>jack commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bdaac14970d2011-09-27T11:52:43Z2011-09-27T11:52:43ZjackIF and only IF the Canes finish with 7 wins and the investigation looks bad, why not do a SELF...<p>IF and only IF the Canes finish with 7 wins and the investigation looks bad,</p>
<p> why not do a SELF IMPOSED bowl ban this year, vacate wins from 08,09 and give up 4 schollies over 2 years?</p>
<p>I hate to lose recruites like Keith Brown, he is a big and fast middle linebacker! We have not had one of them for a while!</p>cane68 commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b9f3d5970c2011-09-27T10:14:02Z2011-09-27T10:14:02Zcane68No reason to believe an on campus stadium will increase attendance, even by students. SLS is well situated to attract...<p>No reason to believe an on campus stadium will increase attendance, even by students.<br />
SLS is well situated to attract Cane fans from all of southeast and sw. Fla. Students can take campus shuttle buses.<br />
Someone tell me if new Marlin stadium is built to handle football, if not why not?<br />
For those insisting on a new stad., whats wrong with Tropical Park?</p>IMAWriter commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e576d1970b2011-09-27T05:51:38Z2011-09-27T05:51:38ZIMAWriterPosted by Posted by: Washington Cane | September 26, 2011 at 07:05 PM Excellent post at 7:05, Washington Cane. Yes,...<p>Posted by Posted by: Washington Cane | September 26, 2011 at 07:05 PM</p>
<p>Excellent post at 7:05, Washington Cane.</p>
<p>Yes, a 7-5 bowl actually COSTS the UM money, and would not be the usual recruiting tool, as all the ESPN guys would talk about is the supposed &quot;Death Penalty&quot; crap.<br />
Better to keep a low profile, take our Medicine...one more bowl abstinence, loss of 10 scholarships...hopefully that&#39;s all.</p>
<p>BTW, IF Coach Golden leaves (remember, Butch DIDN&#39;T).but IF he does there are LOTS of coaches who now know UM will pony up 1 million, which HAS to be more than an HC at toledo or somewhere is making.<br />
Then there&#39;s Tressel, Mike Leach, Butch Davis...and any # of young up and coming HC&#39;s.</p>
<p>However, I believe Al will stay.<br />
Contrary to all the scuttlebutt, there is no proof that he&#39;s the Prime candidate for the PSU gig.</p>
<p>I would have to think PSU will go for a bigger name.</p>canesjunkie commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e55746970b2011-09-27T05:12:57Z2011-09-27T05:12:57ZcanesjunkieWe really need to lower admissions standards, I can't take this mediocre talent anymore. Watching Forston take a whipping is...<p>We really need to lower admissions standards, I can&#39;t take this mediocre talent anymore. Watching Forston take a whipping is frustrating. It&#39;s sad to etched this team play.</p>
<p>The coaching staff is doing well though.<br />
</p>rich commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b8743c970c2011-09-27T04:05:16Z2011-09-27T04:05:16Zrich@PeteRoc u r very much correct about our vanilla offense and defense. But its doesnt take a rocket scientist to...<p>@PeteRoc u r very much correct about our vanilla offense and defense. But its doesnt take a rocket scientist to make nessary adjustments during game. I trust the coaches but do yall remember during the spring whn AG and his coordinators said the QBs had the ability to audible outta plays that were orginally called, same thang wit the defense. Well that must not be happening bc I can point out many times in the game when audibles should have been made for the offense and defense (4th and 1 on defense was big,many of 1 that got us beat).</p>
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@Aristotle as for as heart goes it showed in 2 games in a row on defense. The biggest was Saturday 3rd and 25 after all their false starts and u allow a qb to scramble up the middle and miss tons of tackles during dat process. Thats unheard Miami Football.</p>
<p>Bad news jus bc we play a D1AA school we feel like this is gonna be a cake walk. We better get our act together, this team was the MEAC champ last yr. And they run same offense as KState and has a better mobile QB. It scares me bc we havent stop a mobile qb in yrs and thats not gonna change along with how others schools, teams, media, society, and whoever else feels about Miami. They all look at us as cupcakes too. </p>
<p>So lets be patient and go through this together and stop expecting something thats not there yet. Its coming but its going to take time. We are developing freshmans and sophomores right now. And these jrs and srs is not it. Spence,Tele,Nich,Ben are only ones that gets it right now. It take 44 players to make-up a team 44 players people. And all 3 phases of the game.</p>
<p>Go Canes!! 2014 watch out</p>canesjunkie commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e4e619970b2011-09-27T03:20:03Z2011-09-27T03:20:03ZcanesjunkieAt what point do we admit this season is a disaster and start working towards next year? Take Forston, Jacory,...<p>At what point do we admit this season is a disaster and start working towards next year?</p>
<p>Take Forston, Jacory, and Futch out and some freshman play.</p>
<p>Start looking for a new coach too....because Golden is going to take PSU job.</p>PeteRoc commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e4b80b970b2011-09-27T02:37:52Z2011-09-27T02:37:52ZPeteRocWe don't have enough high impact players, but its BS to say we don't have talent. We have enough talent...<p>We don&#39;t have enough high impact players, but its BS to say we don&#39;t have talent. We have enough talent to beat everyone on our schedule. But times have changed... you can&#39;t just recruit and develop the best any more. You gotta out scheme your opponents or at least treat the game plan like you&#39;re an underdog playing against goliath.</p>
<p>Our defense is too vanilla and doesn&#39;t disguise anything. With teams looking to the sideline for plays after coming to the line, we&#39;re always at a disadvantage. They see our misalignments or weak spots and called the best play against it. Even in our glory days, teams didn&#39;t do that. Everyone had their philosophy and set of plays, then ran them. Things &#39;don changed. And because our approach is so vanilaa, our guys actually have more responsibilities out there. </p>
<p>Same with the offense. Ours is fairly vanilla while teams like Boise St out scheme their opponent. They don&#39;t go in and pound or just throw the rock. They game plan like every game is a bowl game and that&#39;s why teams are often caught of guard when they play them. We don&#39;t do any of that. We think we can trot our &quot;talent&quot; out there and beat the game straight up. Well... those days are over. </p>
<p>Past Bethune, no team on our remaining schedule should be able to watch film and know what they&#39;re going to see against us. That was a major problem the last few years. Guys would reveal that the teams we were playing didn&#39;t do anything they saw on film. Of course not, we know how far we&#39;ve fallen, but every team we play still treats us like we&#39;re MIAMI. Its time we start treating everyone else the same.</p>Aristotle commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e4a67e970b2011-09-27T02:20:03Z2011-09-27T02:20:03ZAristotleRich i hear you bro but there will be no stadium. I agree with everything else. The current kids and...<p>Rich i hear you bro but there will be no stadium. I agree with everything else. The current kids and that miami nw garbage have no heart. They aint no canes. Unless you tell me that this ksu defense is loaded with nfl talent like say the 2002 osu tem that beat us, no way that we cnt gt 1.5 yards on first and goal.</p>
<p>No freagin heart.</p>
<p>I think these coache can improve this team.</p>
<p>Recall 1984: </p>
<p>Heartbreaker vs BC many of us coulnt believe we lost to that midget flutie, but we did.<br />
Heartbreaker vs maryland. Dudes,, UM was up by 27 or 31 points and they came back and beat us!</p>
<p>And we lost 2 more that year including an a55 woopin in the bowl (arizona or tenn)</p>
<p>Be patient. 1985 was better. 1986 close but no cigar. 1987, glory.</p>Aristotle commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b808b4970c2011-09-27T02:20:02Z2011-09-27T02:20:02ZAristotleRich i hear you bro but there will be no stadium. I agree with everything else. The current kids and...<p>Rich i hear you bro but there will be no stadium. I agree with everything else. The current kids and that miami nw garbage have no heart. They aint no canes. Unless you tell me that this ksu defense is loaded with nfl talent like say the 2002 osu tem that beat us, no way that we cnt gt 1.5 yards on first and goal.</p>
<p>No freagin heart.</p>
<p>I think these coache can improve this team.</p>
<p>Recall 1984: </p>
<p>Heartbreaker vs BC many of us coulnt believe we lost to that midget flutie, but we did.<br />
Heartbreaker vs maryland. Udes, UM was up by 27 or 31 points and they came back and beat us!</p>
<p>And we lost 2 more that year including an a55 woopin in the bowl (arizona or tenn)</p>
<p>Be patient. 1985 was better. 1986 close but no cigar. 1987, glory.</p>rich commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b78992970c2011-09-27T00:50:33Z2011-09-27T00:50:33ZrichOk our defense is trash. U talk bout these Miami NW kids and the #1 recruting class outta 08. Thats...<p>Ok our defense is trash. U talk bout these Miami NW kids and the #1 recruting class outta 08. Thats bs, they havent achieve any yet. First we are weak on the d-line small at lb and secondary is garbage. All they have to do is play wit I dont give a fu%! attitude. We have to make oppenents offense fear us and be afraid. U have to bleed orange and green and play wit a lil swagger,not alot bc u have to earn that.</p>
<p>I remember back in the hay days our defense have carry us and the offense feed off that. Come on Canes I trust in yall.</p>
<p>Also i do realize we have improved in sum areas. Pens, have drop game to game, we havent gave up like we have in recent years, the offense look more promising, JH 22 striaght passes w/o int:)return game more yrds = better field position, Freshmans and sophmores playing better from game1 to game3. All i ask for nowe is for us to tackle better and d-line get off blocks quicker. Punch,claw,fight do sumn just dont let plp use you. Play wit a chip on ur shoulder, get pissed off.</p>
<p>To be honest wit every1 else i c us losing 4-5 games dis year but no blow outs. Next year 3-4 loses. The 3rd year should be it, reguardless of the santations (mayb 15 schlorships lost)it want hurt us as bad as plp think. Remember AG only recruit hurricanes, let me say it again True Hurricanes. So whn they commit their commited. Hopefully by Goldens 6 yr we will have our on stadium on campus and get off that hard ass clay at SunLife.</p>omar commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e3e4bd970b2011-09-26T23:46:45Z2011-09-26T23:46:45ZomarI agree with cool cat 100%, except for the blitzing part. Hey might as well have the offense guessing then...<p>I agree with cool cat 100%, except for the blitzing part. Hey might as well have the offense guessing then just running on us for 5 yds every play. This team could use some juco D Linemen now. Happy with Chick 3G performance so far. But the NW08 CLASS sucs hands down. Just Sean saves his behind. He earns his scholarship!! Imagine next year without him, wow it might get more bad. I&#39;m lost maryland tore us up on the pass and now KSU did the same on the ground. Never liked Randy as our HEADCOACH his a great human and hell of a coordinator. But there is a big difference headcoach and coordinator. Might not go see a UM game this year after this dud.</p>Sebastian is the man commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd79abb970d2011-09-26T23:39:16Z2011-09-26T23:39:16ZSebastian is the manPosted by: Washington Cane No way golden stays next year.<p>Posted by: Washington Cane</p>
<p>No way golden stays next year.</p>Washington Cane commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd77bcc970d2011-09-26T23:05:48Z2011-09-26T23:05:48ZWashington CaneGet off the coaches. We need to win 7 games to get to a bowl game and then voluntarily decline...<p>Get off the coaches. We need to win 7 games to get to a bowl game and then voluntarily decline the bowl as self imposed sanctions. That way the bowl ban and other sanctions will start immediately and we have a chance to keep recruits. If a kid knows he will never have a chance to play in postseason here, they will all bail. The only chance of turning this around is getting a new crop of kids who are hungry, not these kids who make the same mistakes every frickin game and can&#39;t finish a game with 2 yards. That speaks to an entitlement character that started long ago. Leave these coaches alone and let them try and build. Any questions...look at what Temple is doing to people. Give the man a chance.</p>Nevin Shapiro should watch his back commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b6f39e970c2011-09-26T22:20:14Z2011-09-26T22:20:14ZNevin Shapiro should watch his backI agree- West va blitzes like crazy as well. And I agree- this program hasnt had a D-line since 2005...<p>I agree- West va blitzes like crazy as well. <br />
And I agree- this program hasnt had a D-line since 2005 when the great baracka and pata were here and terrroized marcus vick and VTech in blacksburg. Then after that it was all downhill. Calais Campbell was a bust at Miami. </p>
<p>Our D-line is porous like a coffee filter. </p>
<p>I dont know what it is. As far as recruiting, You know, people, Chikillo was a top recruit. Maybe he needs time. No. I know he needs time. He did better than Jadaveon Clowney in the US Army Bowl, where he was MVP.</p>
<p>I thgink it also comes down to coaching. remember. Donofrio is a 3-4 guy. I think he is slowly changeing this team toa 3-4. DIdnt wantto come in and blow everything up and do a 3-4 off thebat like Al Groh did at Ga tech (they struggled at D last year but now are clicking). I bet Donofrio will convert to a 3-4 all the way soon. </p>
<p>i agree- Forston has been a major bust. the only 2 games he has done anything in was his first one against UF in 2008, when we thought he was on his way to being another Sapp, and the game against Notre dame when it was too little too late. In between, injuries or not he has done SQUAT.</p>
<p>Face it people, and Northwestern Bull fans- Your Miami NW Bulls of that vaunted 2008 class have been nothing but hot air. BUSTS. All of them. Spence is a beast but he cant do it all and in fact he is no Ray lewis nor a dan Morgan.</p>
<p>I think this team has some talent. it isnt as devoid of talent as some here have said (except at D-line). I mean, drafted or not, UM has put MORE PLAYERS IN NFL ROSTERS THAN THE &#39;TURDS OR NOLES in the last 2 years. Guaranteed- look it up. But they do lack heart and have been lacking coaching. the jury is still out on these coaches. After the KSU loss I am disheartened, but will reserve my verdict on Golden and his staff until the end of the year, and will give them another 1-2 yrs if Miami wins 8 games this year... that is, if they want to stay.</p>'Cool 'Cat commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b6c06f970c2011-09-26T21:50:32Z2011-09-26T21:50:32Z'Cool 'CatCanes305u: I want a stadium too, but where are you going to put a stadium in Coral Gables that's near...<p>Canes305u: I want a stadium too, but where are you going to put a stadium in Coral Gables that&#39;s near campus? There&#39;s no room. I have seen Notre Dame&#39;s and Michigan&#39;s stadiums. UM has never really had anything like that, but was still able to build solid championship teams over the years. We gotta to get back to that. Soild S Fla recruiting and start winning. Why we can&#39;n win consistently I cannot tell U. </p>'Cool 'Cat commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e34dfc970b2011-09-26T21:42:20Z2011-09-26T21:42:20Z'Cool 'CatIf U were using the myriad of RB's the right way, Milller would be healthy going into Bethune. But U...<p>If U were using the myriad of RB&#39;s the right way, Milller would be healthy going into Bethune. But U got bigger problems, as in DL. LB&#39;s. DB&#39;s.</p>
<p>The KSU game came down to, yes, coaching. </p>
<p>Omar, I agree with U. But if we blitz, that leaves the rest of the field wide open. If Fortson, Regis can step it up, that&#39;d mean something.</p>
<p>Right now the sole bright spot on defense is Spence. There is absolutely no pressure up front.</p>omar commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e31ea4970b2011-09-26T20:52:30Z2011-09-26T20:52:30ZomarDa U is going now where until we get a great defense again! That simple, we get no pass rush...<p>Da U is going now where until we get a great defense again! That simple, we get no pass rush and can&#39;t defend the pass. Been many years since a great Dline men has came out. What maybe Campbell and since than who? Bailey was good but not great which is the big difference. I think we need to blizt more like Michigan cause our Dline is weak.</p>bubba1010 commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd6baca970d2011-09-26T20:19:48Z2011-09-26T20:19:48Zbubba1010Susan, you seem very pushy, lay off the caffeine will ya? The more you incessantly jab at the coach, the...<p>Susan, you seem very pushy, lay off the caffeine will ya? The more you incessantly jab at the coach, the less he will likely give you a desirable answer. I&#39;m not telling you how to do your job, but damn, repeating the question in different forms, and then writing the question verbatim for all of us to see is an obvious case of the lazies. Step it up, and do your job the &quot;WRITE&quot; way. </p>Tampa Cane commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b6534f970c2011-09-26T20:01:34Z2011-09-26T20:01:34ZTampa CaneIf Forston starts again then I'm gonna lose it! He couldn't stop kids from coming thru the fron t door!...<p>If Forston starts again then I&#39;m gonna lose it! He couldn&#39;t stop kids from coming thru the fron t door! All the coaches should be dedicated to do nothing but find D-Lineman and get them signed. Create a division that only finds and evaluates D-Linemen. Invite any player 6-2 310+ to come to camp. I see too many top notch DL in NFL that are from BS schools that I know would come to Miami instead. The recruiting focus should always be inside out. Stack DLinemen like Lil Wayne does paper. Even threatened to kill them if they don&#39;t sign. Yea I&#39;ve gone over the edge, but our DLinemen are just that bad. Stick some of theose DEnds in there with a DT and see if that works. I want my momma!</p>CaneSlice commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd69f7f970d2011-09-26T19:57:37Z2011-09-26T19:57:37ZCaneSliceAl, you must be on drugs if you think this squad is only losing 1 more game. GT is going...<p>Al, you must be on drugs if you think this squad is only losing 1 more game. </p>
<p>GT is going to mudstomp this defense. I would not be suprised if GT puts 400+ rushing yards on us. If they can&#39;t stop the KState Veer option then they have no chance in hell of stoping the GT triple option. Not going to happen. </p>
<p>This is as bad a Miami defense as I have ever seen, and we have had some lousy defenses in the last few years. </p>
<p>You can count FSU and GT as certain loses. <br />
VT and UNC as probable loses and USF is 50/50.</p>
<p>We are realisticly looking at a 5 to 7 loss season.</p>
<p>Watching this team is not fun to say the least. We must me the dumbest team in all of college football. We make the same mistakes, penalties and turnovers over and over again. Hell, we can&#39;t even stay in our lanes and play assignment football. </p>
<p>We have kids decommiting and the NCAA hammer has yet to fall. Dark Dark days are on the way. Absolutly sucks to be a Cane fan but I have no choice, it is in my DNA. </p>dbc commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b638d1970c2011-09-26T19:37:20Z2011-09-26T19:37:20ZdbcAgree that our defense does not stand up to decent competition. With Ohio State, they had big time QB problems,...<p>Agree that our defense does not stand up to decent competition. With Ohio State, they had big time QB problems, and that was to our benefit. The O line could not deliver with the KSU(!) game on the line. These units must step up and, if the talent is there, show dominance the rest of the year. Hopefully, Seantrel will help, and Shayon might give us more juice at DE. Hope the Canes will be competitive the rest of the way out. They have been in every game, but that extra margin that produces a W was not there in 2 of 3. We need to win the close games before moving to the next level of dominating a quality opponent. Much Canes speed on the O needs to be exploited. Also, need to use Hagens in short yardage situations, and hope that Mike James will step it up as well and become a factor.</p>CanesFan commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd678b1970d2011-09-26T19:19:11Z2011-09-26T19:19:11ZCanesFanThe deal is their is no room on the campus nor any room within the dense South Florida area unless...<p>The deal is their is no room on the campus nor any room within the dense South Florida area unless you develop some area in the everglades. Also the city of Coral Gables is strongly against any expansions of the school. </p>AL commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd677cc970d2011-09-26T19:18:45Z2011-09-26T19:18:45ZALluckily the canes dont play a game agaist a scrambling quarterback the rest of the way, unless georgia tech has...<p>luckily the canes dont play a game agaist a scrambling quarterback the rest of the way, unless georgia tech has one, VT dont, NC dont, Clemson dont, BC dont, dang, we needed that victory last week, i see us finishing 9-3 with one more loss Florida State. </p>AL commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e2a9bb970b2011-09-26T19:13:46Z2011-09-26T19:13:46ZALwhy cant the canes stop scrambling quaterbacks, and this one that K-state threw out there, is not even a threat...<p>why cant the canes stop scrambling quaterbacks, and this one that K-state threw out there, is not even a threat to Enter the NFL Draft, I mean, play after play, it was the same crap, he fake a hand-off to the running back, pull back the ball, and take it up the middle for hugh yards, am like tackle this dude,,, hit him low, high, whatever it take to send the message, u aint running against us today dude,, and what play was that, when the canes stacked the line, K-state qback called an audible, and the running back to the ball up the sideline, sorry, my 6 year old daughter saw that coming, and sorry, that play is not on the players, its on the coaches, u are in the middle of the field, with all of your players cramping the line, with only 1 player, a DB getting block by the WR, so actually, we son could have taken that ball and ran with it, bad call by the coaches, </p>Upset face commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e2a6f4970b2011-09-26T19:10:38Z2011-09-26T19:10:38ZUpset faceDisagree with posters. I was in the camp that wanted to believe the "talent is great. What is missing is...<p>Disagree with posters. I was in the camp that wanted to believe the &quot;talent is great. What is missing is good coaching&quot; mantra we have been hearing for years.</p>
<p>The talent is NOT there. Talent is what the Canes used to have. Talent without heart blasts K-State by 3 touchdowns. No talent and no heart loses to K-State. </p>
<p>That is what happened, folks. Don&#39;t kid yourselves. The talent is not there. Whether it was not developed properly or was over-hyped to begin with, the net effect is the same.</p>
<p>Maybe in a few years but right now, outside of Spence and Miller, this team is NC State. Sad but true.</p>canes305u commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b5e662970c2011-09-26T18:34:04Z2011-09-26T18:34:04Zcanes305uBoys Shalala is to blame for all this crap.. she does not care about athletics. with all the money miami...<p>Boys Shalala is to blame for all this crap.. she does not care about athletics. with all the money miami U has, why the F.. can we have our own stadium? a place we can have real tradition, not landcrap stadium that always looks empty.. can anyone please explain what is the deal on this?</p>corpus commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2014e8bd62b2d970d2011-09-26T18:24:09Z2011-09-26T18:24:09Zcorpus1.5 yds.<p>1.5 yds.</p>ColaCane commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e25690970b2011-09-26T18:14:44Z2011-09-26T18:14:44ZColaCaneAgree with ALL the posters above. HEART is what is missing from team. The talent is there, but they don't...<p>Agree with ALL the posters above. HEART is what is missing from team. The talent is there, but they don&#39;t reach down deep when it&#39;s needed. 2 YDS is ALL we needed and game over. Our D is up and down, and they&#39;ve got to adjust and do it fast with VT, UNC, GT coming up. </p>George commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015391e24176970b2011-09-26T17:53:23Z2011-09-26T17:53:23ZGeorgeIt is sad state afairs to be a canes fan! A loss to Kansas State, Then Keith Brown Decommitts and...<p>It is sad state afairs to be a canes fan!</p>
<p>A loss to Kansas State, Then Keith Brown Decommitts and says Clemson is his new #1. </p>
<p>Our Defense could not stop my old high school team last week. They beat us with the same plays. Were not smart defensive team. But I was very encouraged with our offense unit. We have outside playmakers, an all-acc running back and solid o-line. But still not being able to put in from the 2 yard line..INEXCUSABLE!</p>
<p>KSU should not have been in the game with us.. When is porter, robinson coming back? Forston looks out of shape and regis is VERY weak.</p>
<p>Anyways best of luck the rest of the season canes fan. Were going to need it!<br />
</p>Brian commented on 'Lamar in a yellow (noncontact) jersey, but Golden said he's probable'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d83451b26169e2015435b5b290970c2011-09-26T17:50:21Z2011-09-26T17:50:21ZBrianIf you cant stop the run you dont win games. The Maryland game everything was against us on the road...<p>If you cant stop the run you dont win games. The Maryland game everything was against us on the road first game for a new head coach rain, morris first int the one that mattered it was pouring. K-St couldnt stop the run and bad play calling on the two yard line at the end of the game. K-ST is better then everyone realizes, they are the best team we have faced this year and we should have won. Bottom line if you cant win your home games your not that good.</p>