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Phoenix Coldon, a junior at the University of Missouri-St. Louis, has been missing since Dec. 18, 2011. Phoenix was last seen in the driveway of the family's home at about 3 p.m.

The Coldon family lost their life savings and their home because of a cruel hoax that led to a false lead in the disappearance of their daughter.

Please take a moment and let Phoenix's family know you care. Please CLICK HERE and read about the case of missing Phoenix Coldon

I'm being serious, what would be the harm in getting the missing flyer in every major newspaper in the states where the A family thinks she could be? I'm sure that some sleuther on this forum could translate it in to Spanish for the PR newspapers and there you go, nationwide coverage. Once again, what would be the harm?

There would be no harm, of course. I'm sure the Anthony's would have done that already (the translating into spanish part, and getting it to the PR news) since that seems to be one of their theories.

There would be no harm, of course. I'm sure the Anthony's would have done that already (the translating into spanish part, and getting it to the PR news) since that seems to be one of their theories.

That's what I assumed too and I'm sure all of the major and local news markets carried the story or at least knew about Caylee's disappearance in the beginning.
But now that time has lapsed, it's no longer front page news everywhere and a lot of people don't even recall or know anything about it.
If people keep sending the flyers or whatever to the media outlets at least someone will see them and maybe even write about her in the papers or show something about her on the news and get the local word out.

"Life's splendor forever lies in wait about each one of us in all its fullness, but veiled from view, deep down, invisible, far off. It is there, though, not hostile, not reluctant, not deaf. If you summon it by the right word, by its right name, it will come."
- Kafka
"Know the right moment."

What I type here is mostly my opinion.
I really don't care if my opinions offend.

Does anyone feel that the woman who was murdered in the park is part of this whole scenario? I'm wondering if LE in any way tried to see if there was.

I've had suspicions along these lines since I found out about Nicole's murder. That June 9 date....

Think about it: This could be why LE is being so ambiguous about the forensic results. I do believe there was a dead body in the car. That much is clear.

What if, what if...Casey was involved in the murder or witnessed the murder? She could have voluntarily or been forced to transport the body, or items containing forensic evidence like the murder weapon.

Others involved could have snatched Caylee to keep Casey quiet, or Casey sent Caylee away to keep her safe because of threats.

Here is why I think LE is being deceptive in their public pronouncements: (and keep in mind all of this is just my opinion and pure speculation so I could certainly be wrong)

LE knows the body in the car is not Caylee and they know Casey must have some involvement in this other murder, but Casey won't talk. So they do everything in their power to have her labeled by the whole world as a child killer in order to pressure her into talking.

Casey and LE are now in a catch-22.

LE not only wants to know "what is your involvement with the dead body that was in your trunk?" they want to know "where is Caylee?"

If Casey brings Caylee forward, not only is the baby's life potentially in danger, but now she will have to explain what really happened.

So LE is holding the "child killer" label over Casey until she talks.

And Casey is holding Caylee back in order to avoid answering questions about the other body. As long as Caylee is missing, and LE and Casey are both using her as leverage, the poor child is in limbo. So long as LE takes this tack, she can sit back and wait it out, even WITH all of that pressure.

Casey doen't think far enough ahead to realize this can't go on forever. Right now she's out of jail, showering and doing her nails, surfing the internet. Probably as far as she's concerned some kind of deux ex machina will strike and everything will resolve itself. But eventually the truth will come out, one way or another.

I've had suspicions along these lines since I found out about Nicole's murder. That June 9 date....

Think about it: This could be why LE is being so ambiguous about the forensic results. I do believe there was a dead body in the car. That much is clear.

What if, what if...Casey was involved in the murder or witnessed the murder? She could have voluntarily or been forced to transport the body, or items containing forensic evidence like the murder weapon.

Others involved could have snatched Caylee to keep Casey quiet, or Casey sent Caylee away to keep her safe because of threats.

Here is why I think LE is being deceptive in their public pronouncements: (and keep in mind all of this is just my opinion and pure speculation so I could certainly be wrong)

LE knows the body in the car is not Caylee and they know Casey must have some involvement in this other murder, but Casey won't talk. So they do everything in their power to have her labeled by the whole world as a child killer in order to pressure her into talking.

Casey and LE are now in a catch-22.

LE not only wants to know "what is your involvement with the dead body that was in your trunk?" they want to know "where is Caylee?"

If Casey brings Caylee forward, not only is the baby's life potentially in danger, but now she will have to explain what really happened.

So LE is holding the "child killer" label over Casey until she talks.

And Casey is holding Caylee back in order to avoid answering questions about the other body. As long as Caylee is missing, and LE and Casey are both using her as leverage, the poor child is in limbo. So long as LE takes this tack, she can sit back and wait it out, even WITH all of that pressure.

Casey doen't think far enough ahead to realize this can't go on forever. Right now she's out of jail, showering and doing her nails, surfing the internet. Probably as far as she's concerned some kind of deux ex machina will strike and everything will resolve itself. But eventually the truth will come out, one way or another.

I also believe it will all come out. Your explanation seems very real as well. I'm wondering if LE checked the DNA against Nicole's

I thought there was some good thinking that went into this post! I do think that Caylee could be alive, and I hope and pray that Casey has not harmed her daughter. I dont automatically draw a conclusion and accuse someone of something that there is no solid proof of. I feel bad for the family. I think do not think that it is right that these protestors are allowed to do what they do (like taking the trash). But,I do have one question to regarding the post, why would the body of the girl found in the park be in Casey's car?

I thought there was some good thinking that went into this post! I do think that Caylee could be alive, and I hope and pray that Casey has not harmed her daughter. I dont automatically draw a conclusion and accuse someone of something that there is no solid proof of. I feel bad for the family. I think do not think that it is right that these protestors are allowed to do what they do (like taking the trash). But,I do have one question to regarding the post, why would the body of the girl found in the park be in Casey's car?

Wasn't the girl found behind a post office.... but attacked in the park?

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I also believe it will all come out. Your explanation seems very real as well. I'm wondering if LE checked the DNA against Nicole's

I'm sure they have if it is certain the dead body wasn't Caylees. I'm not sure, but I think a murder victim's DNA is entered in some sort of data base and any forensic evidence/dna in Casey's trunk would have 'hit' on it.

If this scenario is true, I'm sure LE is holding back charging her because they are sure she didn't act alone, or they may even be sure she was an unwilling participant.

If they charge her with a different murder NOW and force her hand as to Caylee, the jig is up with the others involved in the crime. For now,with Casey suspected of killing her daughter, they may think they are safe.

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I'm not being snarky or anything I'm just curious why? Like if I said to someone, "I'll give you my e-mail address just PM me" that is a no-no?
I just want to make sure I play with the right toys in the sandbox
Really I'm really curious... has it gotten out of hand in the past ?

I'm not being snarky or anything I'm just curious why? Like if I said to someone, "I'll give you my e-mail address just PM me" that is a no-no?
I just want to make sure I play with the right toys in the sandbox
Really I'm really curious... has it gotten out of hand in the past ?

Thank-you......

I'm not talking about information.... just about PM'ing

jbean can speak for his or herself, and I'm sorry to butt in, but I've been reading WS's Caylee forum since this broke and I have seen a LOT of this. "I'll pm you this or that info" "I can't share this with the whole board so I'll pm you" etc etc.

IMO, it creates the impression that certain ones are "in the know" when they probably are not. It makes the rest of the board feel left out, or not in the 'in crowd'. This kind of behaviour creates cliques, jealousy, contention, and distrust. IMO.

Also, and I won't say who, but I saw someone accuse a person in this case of an illegal act. By name. They said they KNEW it was true this person committed this illegal act but could not share the details of how they knew. People were pm'in this person wanting her to elaborate. IMO, if the person couldn't share HOW they knew of this with the whole board, they should not have said anything at all. BTW, to my knowledge, the person has not been charged with this alleged illegal act.

I have seen nothing, nothing at all to suggest Caylee was neglected, abused, or ignored by Casey. Even the people who called her a liar and a thief conceded she was a good mother. This is also obvious from the pics and videos.

IF Casey killed her child, I believe it must have been an accident and she's had some kind of psychotic break because of it. So yes, Casey needs our prayers as well.

I have seen nothing, nothing at all to suggest Caylee was neglected, abused, or ignored by Casey. Even the people who called her a liar and a thief conceded she was a good mother. This is also obvious from the pics and videos.

IF Casey killed her child, I believe it must have been an accident and she's had some kind of psychotic break because of it. So yes, Casey needs our prayers as well.