Trance750:Jubeebee: Trance750: Oh I'm pretty sure the US has a stock of biological weapons, hidden somewhere, and I know we still have several thousand nuclear weapons, which if that does not quality as a WMD, I don't know what does.

We seemed to have adopted a policy of 'We can have them, but you cannot'

It's not illegal to HAVE WMD. It's illegal to USE WMD, unless they're used against you first. And that was my point; we don't "officially" have biological or chemical weapons, so our response to any WMD attack would be to start lobbing missiles.

So then, why did we deem that Saddam could not have weapons? In fact, wasen't that the whole song-and-dance that Bushie-Boy gave?

UN Resolution 687, that's why. One of the provisions of the cease-fire in the first Gulf War was that Saddam give up all his WMDs and verify that it had been done.

Just like in those twelve steps thingies "searching and fearless moral inventory" gets summed up in one word, jihad, by those crafty mooslims -- who apparently try to refrain from the demon rum, too. Go figure.

Magorn:pnome: filter: I have a friend named Jihad-- travel is hell for him. It is a relatively normal name and a misunderstood word.

Misunderstood? Only by people who try to whitewash it.

And you're going to back that up by posting your academic credentials in advanced linguistics?

What? You don't have those? Stunning. Well then, Do you speak Arabic? No? Shocker. So mebbe unless you do, you really shouldn't be posting on the subtle variations of meaning that an Arabic word might or might not have, because it's not the meaning YOU heard?

Somacandra:pnome: You're gonna need a lot of this to make "Jihad" mean "peaceful inner struggle":

You couldn't explain the difference between "Iman," "Ihsan" and "Islam" if your life depended on it. Much less how "Jihad" is connected to all three.

It doesn't matter what you or a thousand academics think it means. To the wild eyed Islamist with the RPG it means only one thing.

Ned Stark:Marine1: Trance750: You know, really, leave them alone and they'll leave us alone. If they want to bomb the hell out of each other, as long as they're not attacking us, is it really any of our business?

Yes, because ignoring the unwarranted suffering of your fellow human being is a perfectly acceptable course of action. Worked fine for the French in WWII...

First off, Assad ain't hitler. Don't be silly.

Second, France did exactly the opposite of that thing you said.

You don't have to be hitler to be a genocidal dickwad. Assad proves this.

I'm sure there are some French Jews who would beg to differ with the statement that the French government did everything it could to stop the Nazi onslaught.

Marine1:Trance750: You know, really, leave them alone and they'll leave us alone. If they want to bomb the hell out of each other, as long as they're not attacking us, is it really any of our business?

Yes, because ignoring the unwarranted suffering of your fellow human being is a perfectly acceptable course of action. Worked fine for the French in WWII...

All I know, is we'd be upset and angry if a foreign governemt was dictiating how we were allowed to govern or not. Now imagine how the rest of the world feels

The US has stuck her nose where it doesn't belong for years, and now when somebody decides to call us out, all of the sudden we're the innocent victims.

pnome:filter: I have a friend named Jihad-- travel is hell for him. It is a relatively normal name and a misunderstood word.

Misunderstood? Only by people who try to whitewash it.

And you're going to back that up by posting your academic credentials in advanced linguistics?

What? You don't have those? Stunning. Well then, Do you speak Arabic? No? Shocker. So mebbe unless you do, you really shouldn't be posting on the subtle variations of meaning that an Arabic word might or might not have, because it's not the meaning YOU heard?

Sock Ruh Tease:Jihad also means "internal struggle" or something to that effect. TMYK.jpg

The word Israel is often translated "one who struggles with both God and Man" as well. The notion of emotional and spiritual work to strengthen one's faith is a prime commonality (among many others) between Islam and Judaism, and Sikhism too for that matter.