Pass; really can't be bothered trying to plumb the intricacies of international load balancing and caching.

And whilst Yitz's answer was a little terse, it did show "down for everyone". Typical Oracle vendor reliability.

The fact it stops really early in every network i connected from suggests that there's no BGP route being advertised. IE, no-one knows who hosts it... where it is. Suggesting a network type problem, rather than hitting a server that's overloaded or such.

And I do realise switching to OpenIndiana is complicated if zpool/zfs has been upgraded.. but the core staff behind ZFS etc left! The creator of Java left. It's a sinking ship. And it's unlikely that there'll be much thought put into redundant software archives etc without a community spirit.

mercutio: The fact it stops really early in every network i connected from suggests that there's no BGP route being advertised. IE, no-one knows who hosts it... where it is. Suggesting a network type problem, rather than hitting a server that's overloaded or such.

mercutio: And I do realise switching to OpenIndiana is complicated if zpool/zfs has been upgraded.. but the core staff behind ZFS etc left! The creator of Java left. It's a sinking ship. And it's unlikely that there'll be much thought put into redundant software archives etc without a community spirit.

Well, at the end of the day, I'm at a client site, and they are a (mostly) Oracle/Solaris shop; I don't think that's going to change in a hurry. The main issue (which I've noticed especially here in NZ) with "Open<FOO>" is the lack of good "paid support" options for corporates.

Many large organisations I've worked with want to be able to phone someone at 2am if/when their <FOO> fails; and thus avoid OpenSource options which might otherwise be quite good.

This is where RedHat does well - their <FOO> is just as "Open" as anyone's, but their paid support offerings provide high "comfort" factor - this is important to non-IT-Literate Senior Managers....

mercutio: The fact it stops really early in every network i connected from suggests that there's no BGP route being advertised. IE, no-one knows who hosts it... where it is. Suggesting a network type problem, rather than hitting a server that's overloaded or such.

mercutio: And I do realise switching to OpenIndiana is complicated if zpool/zfs has been upgraded.. but the core staff behind ZFS etc left! The creator of Java left. It's a sinking ship. And it's unlikely that there'll be much thought put into redundant software archives etc without a community spirit.

Well, at the end of the day, I'm at a client site, and they are a (mostly) Oracle/Solaris shop; I don't think that's going to change in a hurry. The main issue (which I've noticed especially here in NZ) with "Open<FOO>" is the lack of good "paid support" options for corporates.

Many large organisations I've worked with want to be able to phone someone at 2am if/when their <FOO> fails; and thus avoid OpenSource options which might otherwise be quite good.

This is where RedHat does well - their <FOO> is just as "Open" as anyone's, but their paid support offerings provide high "comfort" factor - this is important to non-IT-Literate Senior Managers....

True. But if someone can do RedHat but not Centos, or Solaris but not OpenIndiana they either have a very narrow skill set, or it's policy.

Yes happening here to all destinations (including geekzone for a bit which routes via Orcon). I was working this morning at around 03:00 and it looks like core router 2 just dropped as I couldn't connect to a variety of stuff at the datacentre (all off difference connections to their distribution switch), came back about 20 minutes later.

Monitoring a key server peered directly at LAX Equinix and no connectivity. IPv6 does looks fine though. Yay for IPv6!

Zeon: Yes happening here to all destinations (including geekzone for a bit which routes via Orcon). I was working this morning at around 03:00 and it looks like core router 2 just dropped as I couldn't connect to a variety of stuff at the datacentre (all off difference connections to their distribution switch), came back about 20 minutes later.

Monitoring a key server peered directly at LAX Equinix and no connectivity. IPv6 does looks fine though. Yay for IPv6!

Zeon: Yes happening here to all destinations (including geekzone for a bit which routes via Orcon). I was working this morning at around 03:00 and it looks like core router 2 just dropped as I couldn't connect to a variety of stuff at the datacentre (all off difference connections to their distribution switch), came back about 20 minutes later.

Monitoring a key server peered directly at LAX Equinix and no connectivity. IPv6 does looks fine though. Yay for IPv6!

Zeon: Yes happening here to all destinations (including geekzone for a bit which routes via Orcon). I was working this morning at around 03:00 and it looks like core router 2 just dropped as I couldn't connect to a variety of stuff at the datacentre (all off difference connections to their distribution switch), came back about 20 minutes later.

Monitoring a key server peered directly at LAX Equinix and no connectivity. IPv6 does looks fine though. Yay for IPv6!

Zeon: Yes happening here to all destinations (including geekzone for a bit which routes via Orcon). I was working this morning at around 03:00 and it looks like core router 2 just dropped as I couldn't connect to a variety of stuff at the datacentre (all off difference connections to their distribution switch), came back about 20 minutes later.

Monitoring a key server peered directly at LAX Equinix and no connectivity. IPv6 does looks fine though. Yay for IPv6!

Upgrade work was taking place on our Core routers at that time.

Yea I assumed as much and wasn't so worried.

But yea even though the notices say its fixed I'm still not seeing connectivity. a Trace route fails at core router so perhaps BGP issue for international routes then?