On the contrary ILS, that was me being defensive. Sorry mate if I overreacted a little, it’s just that I dislike being associated with “slasher movies” which I don’t watch or find remotely entertaining. Grand guignol movie violence these days is despicable because no attempts are being made to put violence in a comedy context anymore. One example of many: “Evil Dead 2” (1987), riotously funny over the top brutal comedy grand guignol violence, highly recommended! British sitcom “Spaced” had an Evil Dead 2 movie poster on the wall of Daisy & Tim’s flat. Fast forward a few years, a remake of Evil Dead surfaces with all comedy content completely erased and presto change-o, a classic movie is reduced to torture porn designed for their target demographic: stupid kids with disposable cash. Give the comedy “Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2” (1986) a try, I’m confident you’ll find it funny, but be sure the DVD has the featurettes and commentary tracks!

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Dirty Old Yank wrote:Hang on.....I thought you were vegetarian! .

I am? You'd never seen me with with a chicken McNugget in my gob, or place anywhere else, I can tell ya.

Are you not vegetarian? Was just kidding though, I know vegetarians sometimes eat eggs, vegans don’t. I know someone that fancies herself a vegan...no meat, no dairy products...yet she drinks gallons of wine, rather like Edina Monsoon on a diet fad (Absolutely Fabulous). I could tell her all that vino defeats the entire purpose, but it’d fall on deaf ears. Like everybody else I’ve been a victim of fads too; years ago I tried a “macrobiotic” diet for a time, until the fellow that wrote the best selling books that popularized the concept died at an early age. And speaking of fast food, which I don’t eat either, check out Kevin Smith’s comedy “Clerks II” (2006), it’s hilarious, highly recommended despite a scene of unspeakable depravity. Kevin, bless him, I enjoy his movies and Q&A’s tremendously, but he sometimes has an unfortunate habit of dazzling fans with verbiage (i.e. b.s.) when they question his content/intent.

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On the contrary ILS, that was me being defensive. Sorry mate if I overreacted a little

No need to apologise DOY. You said nothing untoward. It was I who had the proverbial "foot in my mouth" regarding my film fact. You were just pointing out my oversight, that's all. I was eating from the spaghetti bowl of general knowledge and had tomato sauce on my chin. You just pointed it saving my blushes.

Re Slashes: As said. Don't like brutal slasher films that involved torture, unnecessary language and overtly sexual overtones as seen in most modern horrors, but do like as said dark humour & comedy in horror as mentioned in Sam Raimi's original Evil Dead (1981) with the brilliantly funny youthful Bruce Campbell. Now that's a film which is both humourous and terrifying at the same time , and yes it does have elements of what I've mentioned but it's done in context unlike most modern horrors especially ones who soley rely on gratuitous sex and bad language as the film itself has no plot, actors who can act, or storyline, so they beef it up with some barely legal teen colleage scream queens types and horny Jocks having it away in some abandoned house that just happens to be infamous for murders which is located the back of beyond which involves a party, ghetto blaster, beer, and some loose morals girls prancing about with their boobs hanging out, who then get one by one their head chopped off, or some other body part exposed.

Are you not vegetarian?

I is a Vegetarian, yes, but as you know being a Veggy is difficult at times, and what I mean by difficult is finding food without hidden animal products in. Problem is far worse for Vegans, I call tell ya, but understand that most products have egg in it, which unfortunately cannot be avoided if a lover of bread, pasta, cakes, heck most food product out there. It's a gastronomical minefield. One moment I'm salivating over a short-crust pastry pasty in the window of my local Greggs, the next, tasting some vomit on realising the pasty shown in all its crusty golden goodness has chicken tikka filling. Oh the visual mind cluck?

Ilovesteptoe wrote:I was eating from the spaghetti bowl of general knowledge...

Careful, it might be bolognaise . So you are vegetarian, thought so. Despite it being a comedy, that could make 1986’s “Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2” doubly uncomfortable because the secret ingredient of Drayton Sawyer’s (brilliant actor Jim Sidedow as the cook) award winning chili, is human flesh. Packaged vegetarian foods, the kind sold in ‘health food’ shops can be a problem too, manufacturers frequently overload them with sickening amounts of salt, sodium levels through the roof. As an alternative I’ll sometimes make falafels, and tofu (soy bean curd) is a tasty, healthy and versatile meat substitute. Now where’s me bangers and mash. You’ve obviously seen Raimi’s first “Evil Dead” (1981), but have you seen “Evil Dead II” (1987). More of a remake then a sequel, but that’s the really funny one, a must see, very highly recommended. Thanks for recommending Ghost In the Noonday Sun, it appears director Peter Medak has nearly completed his yet to be released documentary about the making of that movie, titled “The Ghost of Peter Sellers”. Medak also directed one of my favorite haunted house pictures, “The Changeling” (1979) starring George C. Scott, it’s excellent .

Was I that obvious DOY? Yes, I admit it. I love sprouts, there I've said it. Is that a crime. I want my Mammy!! Nasty man across the pond made me boo hoo.

After drying my tears, then having a sprout sandwich, have just had a thought. There are many carnivores in slasher movies, heck Michael Myers from Halloween was forever chewing on a rib-yed steak cooked or not in between terrorising his local community, but has there ever been a Vegetarian horror? After pondering this question for a second, have come to a decision. You could add Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (1978), Return of The Killer Tomatoes (1988), Killer Tomatoes Strike Back (1990) & Killer Tomatoes Eat France to this short list of four. Coincidentally the first movie rates 27% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is a tad ironic seeing the subject matter.

But have you seen “Evil Dead II” (1987)

Yes I have. Got that also in my collection too along with the third and best Evil Dead film being the classic Army of Darkness (1992). Best scene In Evil Dead 2 was Ash lamenting the loss off his girlfriend after lopping off her bonce when she went all Deadite on him, buried her in the garden, then later on sees her musical locket which reminds him of her, she then makes an appearance in the garden with her headless corpse re-attaching, then doing a little dance while laughing with that haunting music, turing back into her old self, using emotive language before going all deadite on him ending with Ash fighting once more which takes them both to the garden shed, ending with him locking her head into the vice before using his arm-chainsaw to great effect.

So......you’re saying I should put some clothes on and stop swearing like a longshoreman?

If you feel the cold, yes, although wasn't aware you were in the nuddy. I'd swear too if my bits were as blue as a Smurf's posing pouch, and less said about that last quote the better. I can still taste some vomit.

Ilovesteptoe wrote:Nasty man across the pond made me...chew...on a rib-yed steak...

I would've prefered the expression 'prime beef', but don't pretend like you're not a consenting adult ILS .

Ilovesteptoe wrote:...has there ever been a Vegetarian horror?

Along with those "Killer Tomatoes" movies (I’ve only seen brief excerpts of the first one) a few we could add to a ‘vegetable horror movies’ list would be Roger Corman’s classic “Little Shop of Horrors” (1960), in which a gigantic mutant man-eating venus fly trap called Audrey Jr. has flowers that resemble the faces of human victims, hilarious!! And of course “The Thing From Another World” (1951) which I know you’ve seen, where James Arness plays a humanoid ‘carrot’ from outer space that drinks blood, such a good movie . “The Blob” (1958) wasn’t so much a vegetable as a moving gelatinous mass, but there’s bound to be others .

That sounds like you're assuming I have had a relationship with said sprout. I have not. Our relationship is totally plantonic. Ask her yourself. Here she is. She's an aupair from Brussells. Nice girl.

BOT: Veggy Horrors. Thanks for the new additions. Totally forgot about "Little Shop of Horrors” (1960) and “The Thing From Another World” (1951). Two classic films that involve carnivorous plant-based life who fight back, akin to the worm has turned, but with a sense of being and identity. Both have roots and haven't gone to pot.

Dirty Old Yank wrote:Nasty man across the pond made me...chew...on a rib-yed steak...

That made me feel icky.

Sorry about that ILS, but I know you enjoy isolation of edited excerpts as an innocent joke between friends .The frightening reality is the isolation of excerpts out of context to create totally inaccurate 'quotes' has been so widespread for so long it’s now accepted as professional journalistic technique, nobody seems to notice anymore.Another horror movie with vegetables run amok, the 1963 classic “Matango” aka “Attack of the Mushroom People”. Toho Studios at the top of their game, tasty cheese for the discerning palate . Here's the youchoobe "Matango" trailer (2:17): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWmcE4CSH0.And while it's true that mushrooms are a fungus and not a vegetable, people that eat them in the movie become vegetative, so I figure it all works out . Why anybody would want to eat mushrooms is a mystery, yuck! And no offense to you or your Brussels girlfriend...but those spouts are nasty too . But not nearly as nasty as Albert's Pickled Onions of course .

Sorry about that ILS, but I know you enjoy isolation of edited excerpts as an innocent joke between friends .

DOY, as said before. No need to apologise friend, feel free to point out my info faux pas. I used to think I was a font of knowledge. I am currently a thimble. See my mind is wandering these days to the point it was last seen thumbing a lift on the M4 en route to Cardiff lol. Ahhhhh... matron will be bringing pudding soon.

Re Matango (1963). So cool. Reminded me a bit between a mash-up of Mysterious Island,Lost Content & Journey To The Centre Of The Earth. There's an old adage: "The worm has turned", and with that evidence provided in the killer Mushrooms, I'd be wary of quorn lol.

And no offense to you or your Brussels girlfriend

Some said a our romance would never last. I replied with gusto: Give it 5mins if I were you. What goes in comes sprout.

Ilovesteptoe wrote:I...was last seen thumbing a lift on the M4 en route to Cardiff lol.

A lift? What.....a brolly in this weather? Must’ve felt like Mary Poppins!

Ilovesteptoe wrote:Re Matango (1963). So cool. Reminded me a bit between a mash-up of Mysterious Island, Lost Content & Journey To The Centre Of The Earth.

“Mysterious Island”.....do you mean the 1961 film with Herbert Lom as Captain Nemo, Ray Harryhausen’s special effects and Bernard Herrmann’s brilliant score? That is such a cool movie, great fun! When I was a kid that film was on telly constantly, virtually every week which was nice because it’s one of those movies that didn’t require effort to watch, it’s genuinely entertaining. Herrmann’s iconic score for that picture is instantly recognizable, and has been shamelessly plagiarized by modern ‘film composers’ more than once; I'm certain of it because I’ve heard it happen: identical motifs with the same key and orchestration.

Ilovesteptoe wrote:Some said a our romance would never last. I replied with gusto...

Is Gusto with you? How is she, please tell her I say hello . And tell her I’ve completely forgotten about that unfortunate pizza incident ....mushrooms and brussels sprouts .

Yeah, I felt a right Dick Van Dyke. That carpet bag weighed a ton, and those heels were a nightmare.

“Mysterious Island”

The very one, and what a great film that is too. Ray Harryhausen's special effects were masterful, as was the cinematic score mentioned from the superb Bernard Herrmann. It has everything from the American Civil War, epic balloon scenes, giant crabs, mini metro size Bees & birds, through to Captain Nemo and his infamous Nautilus with the late and lamented Herbert Lom. Man, they don't make'em like they used too, and the reason why they are classic.

Is Gusto with you? How is she, please tell her I say hello .

I'll tell her you said hello the next time I'm down the jobcentre. On thinking about it. Sounds like one of the Marx brothers unknown sister. There's Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Zeppo and long lost sister Gusto, short for Gusset. Lovely girl. She's from down under you know.