You also get 6-bit TN screens that are described as 8-bit FCR, and you also get 6-bit MVA/PVA panels (MVA/PVA doesn't guarantee a panel is 8-bit) - so it can be tricky to generalise?

With regards to LCD TVs I'm probably not the best person to ask about that. My knowledge doesn't really extend beyond pro computer panels! But I do know that the pixel count on LCD TVs is far lower than that of computer panels...

Rather than go on the "Apple's overpriced" route, it would make sense to delve into why the Apple Cinema Display is more expensive. As I understand it, there are three LCD "types". TN (inexpensive), PVA (better), IPS (best). I think if Apple marketed their displays by showing these differences, how they are using the best LCD out there in terms of color accuracy and viewing angle, and why these things set them apart from the competition, maybe they could justify the price they charge. However, it also seems to reason that Apple's shooting themselves in the foot by continually leaving the line stagnant. Sure, they could be waiting for LED-backlighting, but seriously, does it all have to be LED all-at-once?

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Wide Color Gamut
The FlexScan SX2461W reproduces 95% of the Adobe RGB color space so it can display most colors in a photograph taken in Adobe RGB mode. Furthermore, it has an sRGB mode to accurately reproduce this narrower but commonly used color space. This ensures that colors meant for sRGB such as those used on web pages and any photos taken with a digital cameras sRGB mode will be reproduced on the screen as intended.

12-Bit Gamma, 16-Bit Internal Processing
Comes quipped with EIZOs latest integrated circuit which has a 12-bit look-up table with a color palette of 68 billion colors from which the most appropriate 16.7 million (8-bits) are displayed. It also features 16-bit internal processing for smooth display of grayscale tones, especially in dark areas of an image which typically are difficult for LCD monitors to display without banding.

It is surprising that HP/Dreamworks has been able to take the lead in a product category that should have been first tackled by Apple/Pixar.

Apple must be too busy with that music player business to remember that graphic design is one of the staples of their computer platform.

Seeing how nothing in that article is about proving or even bothering to "take the lead" I don't see Apple being too concerned.

HP doesn't make the panels and neither does Dreamworks. They rely on the small click of companies that do and that I have been following, most of them are selling inferior quality monitor panels instead of advancing the technologies and making improvements in quality and delivering more affordable solutions, combined.

Samsung, Philips [spinning off LG], Hitachi and more are flooding the market with crappy LCD panels.

We aren't getting better solutions. We are getting cheaper knockoffs.

Eizo offers top quality displays and you pay through the ass for them.

Seeing how nothing in that article is about proving or even bothering to "take the lead" I don't see Apple being too concerned.

HP doesn't make the panels and neither does Dreamworks. They rely on the small click of companies that do and that I have been following, most of them are selling inferior quality monitor panels instead of advancing the technologies and making improvements in quality and delivering more affordable solutions, combined.

Samsung, Philips [spinning off LG], Hitachi and more are flooding the market with crappy LCD panels.

But isn't accurate colour reproduction primarily a software issue?

It sounds to me like HP/Dreamworks is developing an LCD-based framework for managing colour like ColorSync.
Given Apple's penchant for leading in this area, it's surprising that this didn't come from them first.

I was just wondering if I should buy a new Apple Cinema Display, or wait an see if they announce any new displays at the coming WWDC this coming June.
What do you guys think?, any chance Apple will have finally roll out new displays?.

I was just wondering if I should buy a new Apple Cinema Display, or wait an see if they announce any new displays at the coming WWDC this coming June.
What do you guys think?, any chance Apple will have finally roll out new displays?.

I don't believe they can wait til next year to announce, I believe you'll see something within the next 4 months

I'm starting to think that the one way to ensure that there will be new displays is buy giving in, and dropping cash on one of the present ones.

Is this like getting it to rain by washing your car?

I've made WWDC my line in the sand. I'm ordering a monitor after WWDC one way or another, Apple or not. If it's not Apple I might buy a 24" to hold me over until a 30" LED-backlit model comes out. Either way I need a new monitor, right now.

I'm in the same boat. My options are, 23 Apple Cinema Display (IPS but no HDCP and only one input); NEC 2470WNX (the S-PVA panel from the Dell 2408 and Samsung 245T but a better looking backlight and NEC's customer service); an arm and a leg (NEC 2490UXi, which does exactly everything I want, but so much money); or wait.

The ACD wins on the design front -- IPS, small, light, FireWire hub, easy-to-replace external power supply, easy to adjust brightness from very high to very low dependong on how much light is coming in the window, and totally sealed from dust -- but it seems an awful lot of money for not having HDCP support or dual inputs, and in fairness the PVA panel in the NEC 2470 is very good. I'd like this monitor to be able to replace my TV if necessary as well as serve on the computer. And I really need something with two-page support now for working on a pressing deadline.

I'm in the same boat. My options are, 23 Apple Cinema Display (IPS but no HDCP and only one input); NEC 2470WNX (the S-PVA panel from the Dell 2408 and Samsung 245T but a better looking backlight and NEC's customer service); an arm and a leg (NEC 2490UXi, which does exactly everything I want, but so much money); or wait.

I was in the same boat until a few weeks ago when I simply got sick of waiting and picked up an ADC 30". Best display I've ever used. I was considering the Apple 23" as well but was put off with some of the problems people were having with them—pink hues, displays going bad, etc. I'm happy to say my 30" arrived in perfect condition.

I was also considering the 245T but it's really not that great if you check out the reviews and it's still S-PVA and has mediocre color. I ended up biting the bullet and going for the Apple. I could have gotten the Dell for a few $$$ less but I hate to support that company—especially when they play panel roulette with some of the other monitor models. If you absolutely need to do HDCP or plug something else into it, get the Dell or HP versions...

BTW: those Eizo's above are not LED. Samsung has a 30" LED but it's about $4500. I highly doubt Apple is going to refresh their displays until they go LED and technology drops to support a 30" about $3000. I'm all for going green but it's certainly not cost effective at this point. (Go Green in other ways, like biking to work, etc.) I'd be surprised to actually see a revision at WWDC... but if you're going to buy, don't buy until a little after June in case they do slash any prices so you can take advantage of the 14 day price protection.

Wide Color Gamut
The FlexScan SX2461W reproduces 95% of the Adobe RGB color space so it can display most colors in a photograph taken in Adobe RGB mode. Furthermore, it has an sRGB mode to accurately reproduce this narrower but commonly used color space. This ensures that colors meant for sRGB such as those used on web pages and any photos taken with a digital cameras sRGB mode will be reproduced on the screen as intended.

12-Bit Gamma, 16-Bit Internal Processing
Comes quipped with EIZOs latest integrated circuit which has a 12-bit look-up table with a color palette of 68 billion colors from which the most appropriate 16.7 million (8-bits) are displayed. It also features 16-bit internal processing for smooth display of grayscale tones, especially in dark areas of an image which typically are difficult for LCD monitors to display without banding.

apple is advertising cinema displays again on their UK storefront, possibly a sign they want to shift stock before announcing new ones next week? Or maybe I just want new displays so badly I'm hallucinating...

apple is advertising cinema displays again on their UK storefront, possibly a sign they want to shift stock before announcing new ones next week? Or maybe I just want new displays so badly I'm hallucinating...

Apple's UK store is a mess ATM. Click on the Mac mini and see if anything's weird on its page.

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