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Two of those names surprise me , Stubbsy,s not messing around , noticed he,s got a big lad up from England that can play left back / centre half up on trial , this season looks like its going to be very interesting .

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Always thought that this was likely to happen. Not particularly surprised by the players mentioned either. He's obviously looking for younger more fitter models at CH and LB. Also a keeper to replace/challenge Samson is hardly unexpected. McShane became a bench warmer at championship level, so again not unexpected. No room for sentiment in this game I'm afraid.

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When you think about it , I can't see any of that four getting regular games in the top league , so he must know the direction he's heading in re players. Would expect another 8 at least coming in if we can offload the four !

McShane's body language is always a bit odd - he never looks happy, he's always off to the side of the group a bit. He's either working out which bird he's gonna pump next, or he's just not happy. I couldn't see him featuring much, no matter which way you permed the team.

Don't think any of these guys will have any bother getting a top-four championship gig. Eckersley could well wind up at a rival in the Prem.

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I agree with most of the comments above. Players can't be retained out of sentiment and Stubbs must let them go if he thinks they won't be good enough for the Premiership. Just hope he can find better players to replace them.

Having said that, three of the guys who are leaving played a big part in our success last season, so they must go with our thanks and best wishes for their futures. When I saw them play, I felt that they all gave 100% for our club. Football is a lucrative profession only for the gifted few at the top. For most, like these guys, it's a precarious business, so I hope they enjoyed the good times of last season and I wish them all luck in finding new clubs.

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Where was this announced? Both McKenzie and Eckersley have experience which could be vital. Our centre halves are young and inexperienced at this level if you take out MxKenzie. Unless we have better replacements lined up then its a risk.