Why on earth would someone lock down the thread? Believe me, no one wants to be here with this issue...

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production...

Jester7677

11-26-2006, 08:34 AM

Why on earth would someone lock down the thread? Believe me, no one wants to be here with this issue...

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production...

zoompooky

11-26-2006, 09:14 AM

I cancelled my preorder and I plan on renting after "the patch". Sad but true.

Given Ubi's track record with GRAW, that's most likely some time mid to late 2007.

Hatchetforce

11-26-2006, 09:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jester7677:
Why on earth would someone lock down the thread? Believe me, no one wants to be here with this issue...

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

I have a gold account and so does my brother, we have only one xbox 360 and one TV, due to the addictive nature of this game I'm sure there will be disputes of "whos turn is it" split-screen would be easily possible, if you can play co-op with better graphics then why isn't it possible to play split-screen online with even lesser graphics?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hatchetforce:
That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

im not sure what was in the original thread,but i see no "accusations or insults" here,sounds like a legitimate question/gripe.

Hatchetforce

11-26-2006, 12:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jermtheory:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hatchetforce:
That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

im not sure what was in the original thread,but i see no "accusations or insults" here,sounds like a legitimate question/gripe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is a disparity between what is in the manual and the game features. Without knowing the details behind this, calling someone a liar is tantamount to an insult.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hatchetforce:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jester7677:
Why on earth would someone lock down the thread? Believe me, no one wants to be here with this issue...

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Posting on these boards is apriviledge, not a right.

Well beg to differ buddy.

So basically you're saying that we should thank god <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] has these forums up? Wrong.

Apparently with your statement it just shows us your maturety.

These forums are used by UBISOFT to help them reach the games fans and try to make the game better.

Priviledge, yes it is, but not for us, It's a priviledge for UBISOFT, that people take time out of there lives to post problems and opinions to help UBISOFT out with there games.

Why don't you go back to that hole you were in troll.

As far as I'm concerned if it wasn't for people like the poster of this thread UBISOFT wouldn't even exsist.

The only thing I'm amazed at is the they let asses like you the "priviledge" of posting here.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TW_Night_Fox

11-26-2006, 01:16 PM

He said questions and comments were allowed, Those help Ubisoft make their games better. Accusations and insults will not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Mods lock this thread.

Hatchetforce

11-26-2006, 01:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brownsnakeeyes:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hatchetforce:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jester7677:
Why on earth would someone lock down the thread? Believe me, no one wants to be here with this issue...

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Posting on these boards is apriviledge, not a right.

Well beg to differ buddy.

So basically you're saying that we should thank god <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] has these forums up? Wrong.

Apparently with your statement it just shows us your maturety.

These forums are used by UBISOFT to help them reach the games fans and try to make the game better.

Priviledge, yes it is, but not for us, It's a priviledge for UBISOFT, that people take time out of there lives to post problems and opinions to help UBISOFT out with there games.

Why don't you go back to that hole you were in troll.

As far as I'm concerned if it wasn't for people like the poster of this thread UBISOFT wouldn't even exsist.

The only thing I'm amazed at is the they let asses like you the "priviledge" of posting here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only person demonstrating a lack of maturity here is you and your cohorts. No where in the purchase price of the title is a forum included or guaranteed. This board is provided free of charge. Yet you insist on violating the rules of this free service - rules to which you agreed when you signed up - and insult the persons providing this service...and all over a video game. Maturity? You wouldn't recognize it if it popped out of the toilet and bit you.

Yes indeed, your lack of maturity and your overflowing teenage angst are quite evident. Were you seriously interested in assisting Ubisoft, then you would attempt to do so in a mature and constructive manner. But you keep bumping into that conundrum...the one where maturity is required... and you can only scratch your head over such a concept like a dog that has just been shown a card trick.

Your posts are not for the purpose of assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] but rather for the edification of your incorrectly deemed sense of betrayal. You in fact are the one trolling. Anyone attempting to misdirect the board from other than it's intended purpose is a troll. Throwing diapers against the wall in a fit of madness and anger was NOT the forum's design. Troll? That would be you. This board was designed expressly for the purposes outlined in the forum rules to which you agreed but now choose to ignore. Tantrums have a way of allowing the child to alter the truth in his mind in order to feel justified as he slobbers and flings himself idiotically against the floor over some plastic toy denied.

If you think you will engender assistance by acting like a brat you are wrong. As somone that has performed advisory work for game companies I can tell you that in their limited time devs skip over posts such as your as they are readily recognized for the tripe that the are.

You can beg all you want and no we are not buddies. Not until you grow up and realize you get the respect you give and that were you seriously interested in assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] you would state the problem, the conditions under which it occurs, the solution, and why your solution should be implemented.

But as I stated, solving a prolem isn't your goal, it is to feel justified, get something off your chest, have a fit, **** your diaper, anything but actually contribute a mature response that may actually help resolve the issue. Such simple matters of cause and affect are beyond the mind of the mob acolyte.

People such as yourself are the reason the ignore list was created. Welcome to it as I and anyone else won't have to bear further witness to your infantile attem,pts to justify insulting people over a video game. You can attempt to avoid the truth if you want, but denial isn't just a river in Africa anyomore.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Your posts are not for the purpose of assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] but rather for the edification of your incorrectly deemed sense of betrayal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can explain to us over and over again how mature you are (like anybody cares) and keep trying to look smart by using big words, but the fact remains that there is a feature clearly described in the manual that is not in the game. It would be nice to hear if that's an error in the manual, something that was cut at the last minute, or something that might be addressed in a future patch.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TW_Night_Fox:
He said questions and comments were allowed, Those help Ubisoft make their games better. Accusations and insults will not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Mods lock this thread. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. It amazes me how people think insults and rude behavior should generate a worthwhile response. Tsk, tsk.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Ok, perhaps the writer should not have used the word LIAR, but locking the thread for that is a bit iron fisted. If that's the mood of this board, I might have walked into the wrong place... With the net and much of the talk online, i've learned to look past those kinds of statements. I'll give you this. I find most of the chatter far less over the top than in some other titles, and that's a big plus for the game... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Again, my goal was to get clarification for page 15 in the manual. I hope that can still happen. Other than this and the power of SMGs (at this point, what's the purpose of a AR?) I like R6:Vegas allot. I was just hoping to share the fun with "guests" that come to the house beyond 2 v the AI.

im not sure what was in the original thread,but i see no "accusations or insults" here,sounds like a legitimate question/gripe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is a disparity between what is in the manual and the game features. Without knowing the details behind this, calling someone a liar is tantamount to an insult. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

which thread?you said this thread should be locked.i dont see any insults....well didnt at the time of my last post anyway.

dus10lee

11-26-2006, 08:14 PM

We are requesting something in this thread and the other thread...that online splitscreen be added to RB6. I also dont see why people posting a thread requesting something in a game be locked. We cant control what other people say. Instead of locking the thread why not remove the obscene post. I also want to put my request in for online splitscreen as I did in the original post.

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Free speech is a right dumb *** just because a corperation owns the boards doesn't mean they can take away free speach and people's opinions. Im not saying you shouldn't of said that im just saying in my opinion your a dumb *** and have no idea what free speech is. Forums are for feedback and this post is feedback. Screw <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] for ignoring good Criticism and lets hope they don't screw up on the next rainbow 6 and the next splinter cell.

locsphere12

11-26-2006, 11:50 PM

please excuse my poor spelling I always get angry when people say no one has the right to say something when they do. As you can see I type fast when I am pist

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Free speech is a right dumb *** just because a corperation owns the boards doesn't mean they can take away free speach and people's opinions. Im not saying you shouldn't of said that im just saying in my opinion your a dumb *** and have no idea what free speech is. Forums are for feedback and this post is feedback. Screw <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] for ignoring good Criticism and lets hope they don't screw up on the next rainbow 6 and the next splinter cell. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Free speech is not a right on a forum. But this thread should not be locked.

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Free speech is a right dumb *** just because a corperation owns the boards doesn't mean they can take away free speach and people's opinions. Im not saying you shouldn't of said that im just saying in my opinion your a dumb *** and have no idea what free speech is. Forums are for feedback and this post is feedback. Screw <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] for ignoring good Criticism and lets hope they don't screw up on the next rainbow 6 and the next splinter cell. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol yea free speech rock on.
sorry but thats stupid. if a restaurant says "no smoking" on the door and then you walk in and start smoking and they kick you out, are you going to be mad because you may be over 18 and are legally allowed to smoke? same situation here kinda. of course you can say what you want but there are rules on the board and they aren't hidden or secret or anything. of course <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">ubi[/b] cant take away your free speech or opinions, just you're not supposed to say them here if they're meant to make somebody angry or something. if you dont agree with the rules thats fine just dont post here. dont get me wrong though i think we should be able to call people liars http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jester7677

11-27-2006, 07:29 AM

Your free to say what you want, just know that if your in someone's house, they have the right to show you the door.

To say what you want, go to a neutral site.

Let's not get into this... throwing insults will lock the thread, so if that's that goal, then... sigh....

Boonie01

11-27-2006, 11:10 AM

You guys should feel 'privileged' to have the game. Some of us are still waiting.

As for the thread - I agree it shouldn't be locked, I don't agree with people insulting others, It's unneccesary and usually the sign of a small mind. (no direct insult intended) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

locsphere12

11-27-2006, 10:11 PM

Agree to Disagree

KillurJ9

11-27-2006, 11:51 PM

it would all be fixed if only there was splitscreen live...

dus10lee

11-28-2006, 10:37 AM

If you really want this option in the game you can add your two cents under the thread "Must have Multiplayer Features" and maybe if enough people request it they might add it in a patch.

The only person demonstrating a lack of maturity here is you and your cohorts. No where in the purchase price of the title is a forum included or guaranteed. This board is provided free of charge. Yet you insist on violating the rules of this free service - rules to which you agreed when you signed up - and insult the persons providing this service...and all over a video game. Maturity? You wouldn't recognize it if it popped out of the toilet and bit you.

Yes indeed, your lack of maturity and your overflowing teenage angst are quite evident. Were you seriously interested in assisting Ubisoft, then you would attempt to do so in a mature and constructive manner. But you keep bumping into that conundrum...the one where maturity is required... and you can only scratch your head over such a concept like a dog that has just been shown a card trick.

Your posts are not for the purpose of assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] but rather for the edification of your incorrectly deemed sense of betrayal. You in fact are the one trolling. Anyone attempting to misdirect the board from other than it's intended purpose is a troll. Throwing diapers against the wall in a fit of madness and anger was NOT the forum's design. Troll? That would be you. This board was designed expressly for the purposes outlined in the forum rules to which you agreed but now choose to ignore. Tantrums have a way of allowing the child to alter the truth in his mind in order to feel justified as he slobbers and flings himself idiotically against the floor over some plastic toy denied.

If you think you will engender assistance by acting like a brat you are wrong. As somone that has performed advisory work for game companies I can tell you that in their limited time devs skip over posts such as your as they are readily recognized for the tripe that the are.

You can beg all you want and no we are not buddies. Not until you grow up and realize you get the respect you give and that were you seriously interested in assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] you would state the problem, the conditions under which it occurs, the solution, and why your solution should be implemented.

But as I stated, solving a prolem isn't your goal, it is to feel justified, get something off your chest, have a fit, **** your diaper, anything but actually contribute a mature response that may actually help resolve the issue. Such simple matters of cause and affect are beyond the mind of the mob acolyte.

People such as yourself are the reason the ignore list was created. Welcome to it as I and anyone else won't have to bear further witness to your infantile attem,pts to justify insulting people over a video game. You can attempt to avoid the truth if you want, but denial isn't just a river in Africa anyomore. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But this board really isn't free. I have bought just about every Clancy and <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] game made. Now, lately, since the 360 came out, those games are 60 bucks a pop.

I bought this game for the multiplayer, which is extemely flawed. By all of the money I have spent on <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] games, I have paid my dues to use this board. Granted, a person should have the deceny to voice themselves with a little repsect. But just because you or anyone else disagrees with how they present thier side give you NO right to act the same way.

I believe <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] will fix the problems....when, only the Lord knows. But the purpose of this thread is very valid. The manual compared to the game is incorrect. What is stated in the manual is a lie.

Remember, no one poster is better than the next nor are thier opinions any less significant just because someone doesn't agree with them.

Lead by example. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] can defend itself.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Mltdwn

11-28-2006, 03:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boonie01:
You guys should feel 'privileged' to have the game. Some of us are still waiting.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, you probably won't think that once you are playing it... Oh it's a decent game but it's no R6.

samiam134

12-03-2006, 10:16 AM

yeah i just got the game and it will not let me and my son sign into xbox live i paid about 70$ for the game becouse we both could play becouse it said on the back x-box live 2-16 i think not sure but i know it was 2 somthing but anyways even in the book it says you can so i take that as false advertisement....and with some ppl that i could hire i could get some money becouse it is a lie.....(oh yeah the store wont let me take it back becoue it has been opened. so i think a lawsuit is in hand. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">ubi[/b] has alot of money lol or some free gaes somthing for buying one of ther games and them lieing to me

I realize that almost anything can be interprited multiple ways, and I can totally see both sides. Here is what the manual states...

"Signing in to Xbox Live

Selecting Xbox Live will bring you to the Xbox Live Sign-In Screen. If you're playing Split Screen, you and up to one Guest can play on a sinle Xbox 360 system. After you sign in, each player can edit and modify his or her identity.
Once you've signed in, your ready to start playing Rainbow Six Vegas Multiplayer"

I would say that the big issue is the use of the word "Guest". In XBOX live, guest is a person that does not "sign in", does not have an XBL account. There are plenty of games that allow a "Guest" to come online with you and play. The statement above would lead one to believe that this is possible.

I truely thought that this was possible based on the reviews and statments that I read prior to purchase.

So what people are here for is to get clarification from <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] on the paragraph on how it should be read, and if there is any future possibility of taking a "Guest" into co-op online Story or Terrorist hunts, like that other game of yours, GRAW.

If not, that's fine, lesson learned. <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b], like other vendors out there, will then make the "rent first then buy" list. That's unfortunate, but true. Hopefully <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will think that it's unfortunate enough to adjust the code in production... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read the forum rules. It should have been locked. Posting on this board is a privilege, not a right. That privilege alows questions and comments, not accusations and insults. They should lock this thread as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Posting on these boards is apriviledge, not a right.

Well beg to differ buddy.

So basically you're saying that we should thank god <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] has these forums up? Wrong.

Apparently with your statement it just shows us your maturety.

These forums are used by UBISOFT to help them reach the games fans and try to make the game better.

Priviledge, yes it is, but not for us, It's a priviledge for UBISOFT, that people take time out of there lives to post problems and opinions to help UBISOFT out with there games.

Why don't you go back to that hole you were in troll.

As far as I'm concerned if it wasn't for people like the poster of this thread UBISOFT wouldn't even exsist.

The only thing I'm amazed at is the they let asses like you the "priviledge" of posting here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only person demonstrating a lack of maturity here is you and your cohorts. No where in the purchase price of the title is a forum included or guaranteed. This board is provided free of charge. Yet you insist on violating the rules of this free service - rules to which you agreed when you signed up - and insult the persons providing this service...and all over a video game. Maturity? You wouldn't recognize it if it popped out of the toilet and bit you.

Yes indeed, your lack of maturity and your overflowing teenage angst are quite evident. Were you seriously interested in assisting Ubisoft, then you would attempt to do so in a mature and constructive manner. But you keep bumping into that conundrum...the one where maturity is required... and you can only scratch your head over such a concept like a dog that has just been shown a card trick.

Your posts are not for the purpose of assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] but rather for the edification of your incorrectly deemed sense of betrayal. You in fact are the one trolling. Anyone attempting to misdirect the board from other than it's intended purpose is a troll. Throwing diapers against the wall in a fit of madness and anger was NOT the forum's design. Troll? That would be you. This board was designed expressly for the purposes outlined in the forum rules to which you agreed but now choose to ignore. Tantrums have a way of allowing the child to alter the truth in his mind in order to feel justified as he slobbers and flings himself idiotically against the floor over some plastic toy denied.

If you think you will engender assistance by acting like a brat you are wrong. As somone that has performed advisory work for game companies I can tell you that in their limited time devs skip over posts such as your as they are readily recognized for the tripe that the are.

You can beg all you want and no we are not buddies. Not until you grow up and realize you get the respect you give and that were you seriously interested in assisting <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] you would state the problem, the conditions under which it occurs, the solution, and why your solution should be implemented.

But as I stated, solving a prolem isn't your goal, it is to feel justified, get something off your chest, have a fit, **** your diaper, anything but actually contribute a mature response that may actually help resolve the issue. Such simple matters of cause and affect are beyond the mind of the mob acolyte.

People such as yourself are the reason the ignore list was created. Welcome to it as I and anyone else won't have to bear further witness to your infantile attem,pts to justify insulting people over a video game. You can attempt to avoid the truth if you want, but denial isn't just a river in Africa anyomore. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

However, if <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] hadn't provided a forum, we would have gone somewhere else, and then posted the same questions there, sent a petition to <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] saying that the game was unplayable under current build and then they would have had to fix it in a very short time or face large repercussions, so on the whole I'd say that they were better off for our being here.