A very small amount of people dislike him due to his race. There are some racists out there on all sides - white doesn't like black and black
doesn't like white.

A large amount of people like him and voted for him only because of his race - didn't 90%+ of all black Americans who voted - vote for him? You will
never convince me that his race had nothing to do with him receivng such a large portion of the minority vote.........besides - who cares what race he
is or is not?

I care about his policies that have a real good chance at bankrupting our nation.

Jimmy Carter didn't have a clue what was going on in the 1970s - why is he relavant now?

Originally posted by metamagic
Good to see that someone who can get public attention is finally stating something that has been obvious to the rest of the world since the
presidential election campaign.

yea. the issue that black people keep using race to get white people to give in.

I expect people to address the topic at hand rather than attack the person making the comments.

Your posts are off topic and I suggest you cease and desist your ad hominem tactics post haste.
.

Well, I'll make this my only post then. I have never been treated like this here on ATS by Mods before.

Try sending a u2u instead of jumping me out on a post.

On Topic, You can't fight it. That's the BS of it. The more you bring it up, the more you talk about it, the worst they make it.
But on the other hand, if you point them out as foolish, it could backfire on them. I don't think they will let up anytime soon.

They can't let up. They are still shackled. I promis you that after I get some sleep, I have some disturbing and enlightening information for you to
consider.

Don't be too sad bout the s and f. See it way too often. The best discussions I've ever been privileged to participate in get very little external
clues to the depth and understanding shared by absolutely brilliant folks...and an occassional troll.

I would guess the people who actually care about his policies are in the minority. I would bet my life that most of the people who hate Obama could
care less and just hate the fact that there is a black man as president. You can say he is half this and that ...fact of the matter is..he looks
black...there is no denying that. As for that one comment about the teapartiers....yeah where were these fools when Bush was president? Why are the
majority of these guys if not all caucasion? I have no clue what you expected form this guy....but c'mon eight months to fix the USA's problems, .
looks like the some of the Obama haters actually thought he was the messiah...because that would have been a miracle...

In the right wing conservative ideology there is a long running system of subliminal bigotry. Whether it be from changing historical fact to
preforming the most fantastic mental gymnastics to make themselves feel superior to all others. It exists. The WASPs raise their children to think
that they are better than everyone else who is no WASP and rich. However, this has seeped into the lower classes of white south and middle America.
The lower class obviously desires to emulate the values of the higher class, if for nothing more than to separate themselves from the people of the
darker skin complexions. However, it is not a true desire to hate. It is subliminal and it hits the subconscious.

What a load of garbage!!!! You complain it is the media feeding us the propaganda yet you expect us to swallow this?!!

Let me settle something for you. You can have your grandiose feelings that it is ALL about race and nothing more but understand if you keep
filtering everything that takes place in this country, with this President, through a racial paradigm you are no longer gonna have a voice.

You have lost sight of the issues and what is happening because you have let your ego either consciously or subconsciously get in the way of values.
What is with the "us vs. them" mentality?

Obama has lied and lied again! He may say he loves his country but doesn't seem to understand you do not go on an apology tour and trash talk the
very Country you claim to love so dearly. You do not play "Hide -n- Seek with your Birth Certificate!

Since you and your other liberal partners, Carter included, continue to scream "race" then I will step out for the Conservatives and show you what
most in this country are fighting for:

Is he kidding? Yes there are racists, I don't deny that, but from what I've seen, they usually aren't white. They're the ones screaming that
we're racist for not supporting the president.

I didn't even know who Obama was when I decided to oppose him. I had never seen a picture, never heard him speak, I had just read his positions and
transcripts of his speeches on redistributing wealth and increasing government control and regulation.

All of my friends are fiercely opposed to what he stands for, often saying that they didn't give X years of their lives in defense of this country,
its ideals, and its constitution to have them thrown out the window.

So no, I do not believe that racism is the reason for opposition to Obama's Policies, I believe Obama's Policies are the reason for opposition to
Obama's Policies.

Originally posted by Gools
What proportion of opposition to Obama's presidency can be attributed to racists hiding behind the "anti-liberal" banner?

.5%?
My guess is as good as yours.
The key word being *guess*.
When you have to guess what evils the opposition has, you know you're lost - seeking something of no substance over any credible argument.
Doing so only serves as a method to delude oneself.

In the right wing conservative ideology there is a long running system of subliminal bigotry. Whether it be from changing historical fact to
preforming the most fantastic mental gymnastics to make themselves feel superior to all others. It exists. The WASPs raise their children to think
that they are better than everyone else who is no WASP and rich. However, this has seeped into the lower classes of white south and middle America.
The lower class obviously desires to emulate the values of the higher class, if for nothing more than to separate themselves from the people of the
darker skin complexions. However, it is not a true desire to hate. It is subliminal and it hits the subconscious.

What a load of garbage!!!! You complain it is the media feeding us the propaganda yet you expect us to swallow this?!!

Let me settle something for you. You can have your grandiose feelings that it is ALL about race and nothing more but understand if you keep
filtering everything that takes place in this country, with this President, through a racial paradigm you are no longer gonna have a voice.

You have lost sight of the issues and what is happening because you have let your ego either consciously or subconsciously get in the way of values.
What is with the "us vs. them" mentality?

Obama has lied and lied again! He may say he loves his country but doesn't seem to understand you do not go on an apology tour and trash talk the
very Country you claim to love so dearly. You do not play "Hide -n- Seek with your Birth Certificate!

Since you and your other liberal partners, Carter included, continue to scream "race" then I will step out for the Conservatives and show you what
most in this country are fighting for:

First of all, I am not a liberal. Second of all, do not quote sections. It comes as one whole package. In the full text, most of the debate is
dissected. Thirdly, my post was about you realizing and rising up against your true oppressors rather than you playing their games, but it is your
choice. I said race plays a part. I did not say race was the reason. I even subtly added that the "us vs them" mentality also involved democrats and
republicans. Why would you say that my post is talking about blaming everything on race when it is clearly not? You need to admit that there are
outside sources influencing mentality (race, political ideology, fear, and hate). It is love or hate, you choose the later and it is game over for us
all. Have a wonderful evening and a good day tomorrow.

First of all, I am not a liberal. Second of all, do not quote sections. It comes as one whole package. In the full text, most of the debate is
dissected. Thirdly, my post was about you realizing and rising up against your true oppressors rather than you playing their games, but it is your
choice. You need to admit that there are outside sources influencing mentality. It is love or hate, you choose the later and it is game over for us
all. Have a wonderful evening and a good day tomorrow. Namaste.

It's o.K., we got the gist of it in the part I posted. Yes, I know your post was about me. You have made the wrong assumption pretending to know my
heart! And now I am a "hater" because I won't play your "race card politics"

I didn't even know who Obama was when I decided to oppose him. I had never seen a picture, never heard him speak, I had just read his positions and
transcripts of his speeches on redistributing wealth and increasing government control and regulation.

Just curious when did this happen? Before or after the election? I don't know how his ethnicity escaped you with the media playing it up from the
very beginning of him announcing to run for the presidency until the day he was elected. Carter may be correct with some of his comments. Yes people
are having big problems with MANY of his proposed policies. Yes there are MANY people who think he has already gone back on promises he made during
his campaigning which is a stereotypical politician maneuver. However, lets be honest here from the beginning until now his race has been subtly
thrown out there like a fishing net.

First of all, I am not a liberal. Second of all, do not quote sections. It comes as one whole package. In the full text, most of the debate is
dissected. Thirdly, my post was about you realizing and rising up against your true oppressors rather than you playing their games, but it is your
choice. You need to admit that there are outside sources influencing mentality. It is love or hate, you choose the later and it is game over for us
all. Have a wonderful evening and a good day tomorrow. Namaste.

It's o.K., we got the gist of it in the part I posted. Yes, I know your post was about me. You have made the wrong assumption pretending to know my
heart! And now I am a "hater" because I won't play your "race card politics"

Kindly,
Paxnatus

You seemed to be at a misunderstanding. The hatred is merely part race, just like it is part political persuasion and ideology. Hate is the game of
the Illuminati set 1. It comes in various forms, and it helps shield the populace from love. I don't play race card politics, in fact, I barely play
normal surface level politics. This is a conspiracy site, so I doubt I am anything similar to a liberal or conservative who plays political games.

It only gets real interesting when the disjointed ideas such as Maori only University's get rightfully called racist by people like me . I am sure
there are off topic examples of what I am referring to where you are .

What proportion of opposition to Obama's presidency can be attributed to racists hiding behind the "anti-liberal" banner?

Undoubtedly a fair percentage of Obama opponents are racial motivated the key is to work which ones are opposed to his race rather then just his
policy's . Most likely the morons who thought or still think that Obama is a Muslim are either extremely ignorant or possible racist .

Is it a factor at all?

Of course there is no other explanation exists for birthers questioning Obama eligibility and not McCain !!

The fact of the matter is that on the campaign trail, you sore black, white, christian, muslim, jew, atheist etc. UNITED together in the run up to and
election of Barrack Obama. It seemed most people loved him because of the promises he made and change in policy he was advocating. So isn't it
logical to assume a lot of people now dislike him because of his broken promises? I agree it is somewhat unfair to be judging him so harshly
considering he has not even been at the helm for one year yet.

Stop highlighting the fact that he is black. This was WELL known before, during and after his election. Are you telling me all those people who were
cheering him and crying after his speeches were faking it so that they could elect a black man, get him to screw things up further and then scapegoat
him and all black citizens?

Judging by some of these replies, it seems that racism would still exist in a world without races...

Originally posted by JOE64
A large amount of people like him and voted for him only because of his race - didn't 90%+ of all black Americans who voted - vote for him? You will
never convince me that his race had nothing to do with him receivng such a large portion of the minority vote.........besides - who cares what race he
is or is not?

Most black Americans vote for the democrat on presidential tickets. Kerry got about 90% of the black vote to Obama's 95% or something..

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