Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - January 2009

I have a bit of time, and am interested in NFEs so I went through the New UU stats and picked out the more common NFEs.

27 | Chansey | 5624 | 6.44%
MiniBliss. It can't use the elemental attacks any more with its rubbish SpA, but Seismic Toss replaces it well enough. Very useful to keep special certain threats in check.
59 | Porygon2 | 2787 | 3.19
Was a full evolution in previous gens, was BL before. Whats interesting about it is that in OU it is 47th and on 3.62% of teams. As has been said before this is largely due the the lack of good traceable abilitys in UU compared to OU.
The differences in how they are used are, UU has more Download P2's (9% against only 2%), less leftovers (85%/95%), significantly less Bold nature (53%/84%) and more Modest or Quiet natures, overall more offensive EV spreads, and slightly more diversity in attacks. My take on this is that some people are using P2 offensively in UU, where as in OU PZ does it better. Also possibly UU needs less defences to take the more common hits.

65 | Scyther | 2527 | 2.9%
Scyther barely counts as a NFE, it was alowed in UU before the addition of most and is a decent sweeper I suppose.

76 | Magneton | 2031 | 2.33
The first of the NFEs that has never had much use in any DP metagame. Unlike its evolution in OU, Magneton has trouble trapping many of the most common UU steel types. A large proportion of both Registeel and Steelix carry Earthquake, and Magneton lacks the power to 1KO either of them. This seems to have forced almost half of Magneton to carry Magnet Rise, and made its most common item Leftovers unlike Magnezone's favourite: Choice Scarf.

Hidden Power Fire is also quite common at 37% as its best option against both of the steels it intends to trap, with the next most common being Ground (24%), Ice (16%), and Grass (14%). Its also nice to see 100% of Mags in UU running Magnet Pull, in OU 218 times they used Sturdy..

83 | Rhydon | 1706 | 1.95%
Rnyhorn is used pretty much the same way as Rhyperior, the top 6 moves are in exactly the same order. Items are similar (a few more CBDon), and Ice moves are less needed in UU. Not that much to say here.

90 | Hippopotas | 1543 | 1.77%Leading:
16 | Hippopotas | 1255 | 1.44%
Hippopotas is another interesting case, it has never been viable in any competitive metagame (bar LC) and is used almost entirely as a support Pokemon. Its stats and pretty much everything about it are well below average so many people think of it as simple a liability to a team. Here is how it is used:
Item: 43% Leftovers, 42% Focus Sash, 12% Choice Band.
Interesting to see the balance between Sash and Leftovers, obviously from the players experience it often survives long enough for the slow healing of Leftovers to outweigh the one of survival from Sash.
EVs: A majority max HP and Def, while a few (25%) go for Max Attack instead of Defence.

As the stats show most of Hippo's are leads, and most have SR. Other common attacks are EQ, Slack Off, Roar, Protect and Toxic. It seems to try to do as much damage as possible through indirect means.

Its also nice to note that a NFE got more use than Articuno, Entei, Regigigigwhatever, Sheddy or Shuckle.

The next ones got very little use, I'll just give a list:
109 | Pikachu | 1107 | 1.27%
125 | Gligar | 832 | 0.95%
130 | Wynaut | 739 | 0.85% (now banned, lol)
132 | Sneasel | 645 | 0.74%
135 | Gabite | 597 | 0.68 (second best dragon in UU, used more than Wailord)
138 | Trapinch | 550 | 0.63
Supprised this is not more common, its one of the best (read: only) trappers in UU.
141 | Haunter | 482 | 0.55
Hardly worse then Gengar, ok the speed drop is bad but other than that.. and yet its this low?
146 | Piloswine | 407 | 0.47
30 less base attack/speed and 10 less HP means a lot.
151 | Kadabra | 316 | 0.36
Now this is a bit odd. Other that drops to its already lol defences and attack, it lost 15 SpA and 15 Spe. It still has 120/105 special sweeping stats. Maybe its just outclassed by Espeon?

And thats enough.
Anyway it will be interesting to see if these newly viable NFEs get an analysis.

I seen several Wobbuffets switch in to scarf Darkrai's Dark void to beat it, but its not a good idea for a couple of reasons. First of all, many Scarfrais have started to trick first, as this beats Wobbuffet. Second of all, some Darkrai leads have focus sash. One of the great things about Wobbuffet is that he completly shuts Lugia down. if Lugia whirwinds, he gets encored, which often means he is tuck using roost or reflect. if Wobbuffet encores an attack, Wobbuffet will almost always kill Lugia, which can open some teams to a Rayquaza sweep.

I am aslo quite shocked at Heracross's usage, he is pretty much the best switch in to Dark Void in the game!

Edit:Wobbuffet doesn't like the rare trick specs lugia at at.

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Theorymon: Even if Lugia gets encored on Whirlwind, he can just Whirlwind the next turn; it's not like it must switch, so you still can't risk of set-ups but only best choice is for straight-attacking.

And can someone still put up an explanation why is Ivysaur ranked #50 on the Suspect Ladder? Venusaur is only #64.

Metagross is #1 lead the month after I start using him. Coincidence? I think not! Also, some things to notice.
43: Dragonite
The original dragon gets no love, although he DOES have some advantages over mence, most notably ice beam, thunderbolt, superpower and agility, which makes him a very effective mixed sweeper.
52: Umbreon
One of the eeveelutions is getting close to being OU. My influence on shoddy is amazing! MUAHAHAHAHA

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Theorymon: Even if Lugia gets encored on Whirlwind, he can just Whirlwind the next turn; it's not like it must switch, so you still can't risk of set-ups but only best choice is for straight-attacking.

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No. It works like this
Wobb swaps in on Lugia's Reflect/Roost
Now Lugia has no options (unless it has Toxic).

Lugia's Whirlwind has negative priority, and therefore Wobb moves first and Encores the PREVIOUS move used, basically keeping Lugia from being able to Whirlwind

141 | Haunter | 482 | 0.55
Hardly worse then Gengar, ok the speed drop is bad but other than that.. and yet its this low?
151 | Kadabra | 316 | 0.36
Now this is a bit odd. Other that drops to its already lol defences and attack, it lost 15 SpA and 15 Spe. It still has 120/105 special sweeping stats. Maybe its just outclassed by Espeon?

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Both of them don't have Focus Blast. This severly hurts their type coverage by making them unable to hit Steels hard. And by Steels, I mean Registeel, whose 150 base sdef will wall them all day. The best they can do is trick Scarfs/Specs onto said Steels, but Choicing them is sort of asking to get Pursuited. Mismagius does levitating Ghost better, and Espeon does fast, hard-hitting Psychic better. There's no reason to use either.

Theorymon: Even if Lugia gets encored on Whirlwind, he can just Whirlwind the next turn; it's not like it must switch, so you still can't risk of set-ups but only best choice is for straight-attacking.

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Thanks to Whirlwinds negitive priority, Wobbuffet encores the move used before it, which is most commonly ether Reflect or Roost.

I think it's intersesting Rhyperior is falling while his fellow two new OUs, Flygon and Empoleon are moving on up. Porygon2, who looked to be falling to NU now might see OU. And Gengar is finally out of the Top 10. Cool month, in particular I'm surprised to see two Pokemon break 100,000.

Much thanks, Doug. I might say more stuff when I'm done digging in this fun pile of statistics.

Both of them don't have Focus Blast. This severly hurts their type coverage by making them unable to hit Steels hard. And by Steels, I mean Registeel, whose 150 base sdef will wall them all day. The best they can do is trick Scarfs/Specs onto said Steels, but Choicing them is sort of asking to get Pursuited. Mismagius does levitating Ghost better, and Espeon does fast, hard-hitting Psychic better. There's no reason to use either.

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Oh, I didn't notice they lost any moves. I guess that explains it pretty well then.
Maybe in NU....

Thanks a ton for this Doug, I've been waiting for this so eagerly for goodness knows how long. We now have UU stats! I'm gonna get a hot drink then spend the evening perusing through the numbers behind this new metagame =).

First off, thank you for the stats Doug. You are a very hard worker, and your commitment to the site is amazing. Keep up the good work man.

Now, what I'd like to here is look at the top 50 of UU, and I want to see how many of the original UUs stayed in there, and how many were originally BLs. For the pokemon that were in old UU, I'll say UU, and the old BLs I'll say BL. NFE will count as BL for the purposes of this post since they weren't allowed in UU before. I know that sounds obvious, but I don't want anyone misunderstanding my post saying that I'm trying to tier pokemon.

Personally, I don't find that to be bad. A lot of the popular old UUs stayed in the top 50, which disproves the theory that when all of the BLs got brought down to UU, that the game would just be completely dominated by originally BL pokemon.

I have a bit of time, and am interested in NFEs so I went through the New UU stats and picked out the more common NFEs.

27 | Chansey | 5624 | 6.44%
MiniBliss. It can't use the elemental attacks any more with its rubbish SpA, but Seismic Toss replaces it well enough. Very useful to keep special certain threats in check.
59 | Porygon2 | 2787 | 3.19
Was a full evolution in previous gens, was BL before. Whats interesting about it is that in OU it is 47th and on 3.62% of teams. As has been said before this is largely due the the lack of good traceable abilitys in UU compared to OU.
The differences in how they are used are, UU has more Download P2's (9% against only 2%), less leftovers (85%/95%), significantly less Bold nature (53%/84%) and more Modest or Quiet natures, overall more offensive EV spreads, and slightly more diversity in attacks. My take on this is that some people are using P2 offensively in UU, where as in OU PZ does it better. Also possibly UU needs less defences to take the more common hits.

65 | Scyther | 2527 | 2.9%
Scyther barely counts as a NFE, it was alowed in UU before the addition of most and is a decent sweeper I suppose.

76 | Magneton | 2031 | 2.33
The first of the NFEs that has never had much use in any DP metagame. Unlike its evolution in OU, Magneton has trouble trapping many of the most common UU steel types. A large proportion of both Registeel and Steelix carry Earthquake, and Magneton lacks the power to 1KO either of them. This seems to have forced almost half of Magneton to carry Magnet Rise, and made its most common item Leftovers unlike Magnezone's favourite: Choice Scarf.

Hidden Power Fire is also quite common at 37% as its best option against both of the steels it intends to trap, with the next most common being Ground (24%), Ice (16%), and Grass (14%). Its also nice to see 100% of Mags in UU running Magnet Pull, in OU 218 times they used Sturdy..

83 | Rhydon | 1706 | 1.95%
Rnyhorn is used pretty much the same way as Rhyperior, the top 6 moves are in exactly the same order. Items are similar (a few more CBDon), and Ice moves are less needed in UU. Not that much to say here.

90 | Hippopotas | 1543 | 1.77%Leading:
16 | Hippopotas | 1255 | 1.44%
Hippopotas is another interesting case, it has never been viable in any competitive metagame (bar LC) and is used almost entirely as a support Pokemon. Its stats and pretty much everything about it are well below average so many people think of it as simple a liability to a team. Here is how it is used:
Item: 43% Leftovers, 42% Focus Sash, 12% Choice Band.
Interesting to see the balance between Sash and Leftovers, obviously from the players experience it often survives long enough for the slow healing of Leftovers to outweigh the one of survival from Sash.
EVs: A majority max HP and Def, while a few (25%) go for Max Attack instead of Defence.

As the stats show most of Hippo's are leads, and most have SR. Other common attacks are EQ, Slack Off, Roar, Protect and Toxic. It seems to try to do as much damage as possible through indirect means.

Its also nice to note that a NFE got more use than Articuno, Entei, Regigigigwhatever, Sheddy or Shuckle.

The next ones got very little use, I'll just give a list:
109 | Pikachu | 1107 | 1.27%
125 | Gligar | 832 | 0.95%
130 | Wynaut | 739 | 0.85% (now banned, lol)
132 | Sneasel | 645 | 0.74%
135 | Gabite | 597 | 0.68 (second best dragon in UU, used more than Wailord)
138 | Trapinch | 550 | 0.63
Supprised this is not more common, its one of the best (read: only) trappers in UU.
141 | Haunter | 482 | 0.55
Hardly worse then Gengar, ok the speed drop is bad but other than that.. and yet its this low?
146 | Piloswine | 407 | 0.47
30 less base attack/speed and 10 less HP means a lot.
151 | Kadabra | 316 | 0.36
Now this is a bit odd. Other that drops to its already lol defences and attack, it lost 15 SpA and 15 Spe. It still has 120/105 special sweeping stats. Maybe its just outclassed by Espeon?

And thats enough.
Anyway it will be interesting to see if these newly viable NFEs get an analysis.

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I hope you realize that Magneton can run a +SpA nature due to base 70 speed, therefore having more SpA than Magnezone. ThugJustThug <3