Vapman

oh my, i like the borrowed Vapman more and more and the Station-Sets are getting really tempting...

on a sidenote, this Weekend i showed the Vapman to a friend who smokes Joints and still Cigarettes and who had never a sense for my other Vapes. He tried the Vapman heated by me and after the first pull he said wow. Tried it himself and was quite talented in useing it. Next Question was "Can you buy one of these for me?" which i would have never guessed. Unfortunately it was too expensive for him but i really think about gifting one as it would be so great for him.... The little Vapman seems just appealing.

The Station is like a Log Vape with a detachable mouthpiece. It's awesome.

The Swiss don't work on the weekends. They're much more civilized than us! Haha
He'll get back to you on Monday.

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I still have not heard anything from these guys. Has anyone else made an order thru their email mail@element-medical.ch? Not sure what I should do now. It's a bummer it's not a coupon code or something easier that wouldn't require communication with a person. I'll try emailing that address again tomorrow with my order request. If I don't hear anything by the end of the week I'll just give this up and order a fancy Vapman from infinityvm.com which was my initial plan anyways. I do really want the Station so I'm still hoping to hear from them. We will see.

unimportant question but curious - what is the longest duration of time between firing it up with the torch and taking a hit before there's a significant loss of vapor? i've considered experimenting but of course I've yet to hold off on taking a hit.

somewhat important question - the mouthpiece on my unit is rock solid connected and damn near impossible to remove for cleaning. any suggestions for safe removal without causing damage?

somewhat important question - the mouthpiece on my unit is rock solid connected and damn near impossible to remove for cleaning. any suggestions for safe removal without causing damage?

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It's almost certainly glued in by hardened concentrate. First move is heat to try to soften the condensate. 4 or 5 healthy bowls, back to back, should do it.........

Otherwise, I'd press it out from the inside. Pull the screen off, invert it over a hole in something the stem fits through but the wood of the center section doesn't and then push it out from the pan end with a bamboo skewer or similar against the bottom lip of the plastic MP. This lets you put pressure directly out, not to the side, you should be able to really push hard this way (to the limit of the bamboo), and you can go for a metal 'punch' like a rod.....even tapping the other end with a hammer or other handy tool.

It's almost certainly glued in by hardened concentrate. First move is heat to try to soften the condensate. 4 or 5 healthy bowls, back to back, should do it.........

Otherwise, I'd press it out from the inside. Pull the screen off, invert it over a hole in something the stem fits through but the wood of the center section doesn't and then push it out from the pan end with a bamboo skewer or similar against the bottom lip of the plastic MP. This lets you put pressure directly out, not to the side, you should be able to really push hard this way (to the limit of the bamboo), and you can go for a metal 'punch' like a rod.....even tapping the other end with a hammer or other handy tool.

So I just emailed asking to confirm the total cost. Plus there were some extras I wanted. Like an ebony mp and some more sieves which I was assuming were not going to be sold on sale. This was Thursday. I'll give it a few days.

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Hey shmoedog, we received your email on the 21st and I responded on the 22nd. Don't know what happened to the email before?

Hey shmoedog, we received your email on the 21st and I responded on the 22nd. Don't know what happened to the email before?

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Traditionally guys find such messages hidden in the Spam folder. As I understand it computers (who of course know what's best for us.....) get fooled by the address (they look to see if you've read mail from that address before silently rejecting it), the 'fix' can be as simple as moving it to the active file (and leaving it there).

The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.

The bowl is far too small to make sens. Even packed with quality herbs it takes me 3 full loads in a row to get anywhere, this takes so much time it's just not worth doing. Also it's not like you can use it casually whilst doing something else, it is the main event and needs full attention.
Even if I were to use the heating station, I would still have to load this thing over and over! Maybe most happy users are micro dosers?
Not a fan of the mouthpiece either, tried ebony and plastic, didn't like them. I really think it gains a lot from using a longer glass stem, the MFLB stems fit great and are cheap.
Most importantly, i find the vapour underwhelming, compared to what i get from any of my electric power vapes, even after working out a technique to get very even dark brown avb without combusting, it is still nothing close to the vapour i get from my Herborizer, Mighty, IQ, or even my now dead GH.

I guess as a low tech "zombie survival" vape it kinda makes sens, but at home there is no valid reason for me to use it IMO. It's just not efficient enough. I would rather spend 5 minutes warming up my Herborizer and hitting a bowl in 3 hits, than spend 15 minutes loading/heating/unloadin the vapman over and over.
I can't imagine using it on the run either, it is just too much faff and not very discreet.

Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.

The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.

Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.

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Very sorry to hear VM isn't working out for you, but as you say it's not for everyone (what could be, really?). It can't be set up for users with hearty appetites like yours and yet have a bowl suitable for those on the frugal end of things. These things aren't magic, if you want lots of THC coming out you need to put a lot in. And if you want it to come out fast, you have to be willing to supply lots of power (heat) at the right time to make that happen.

VM is just tuned for the other end. It stores enough heat in normal mode to give a modest (but useful) hit on stored heat in the copper. You have to defeat that 'quantum heat storage' to get more volume. For instance, putting it on a WT and torching through the hit as some do so you can supply more total heat to the hit than VM normally allows. And concentrates might be the answer to 'not enough good stuff in one load for me'......but that's not really fixing a poor match either?

Being new and complete, hopefully it'll be easy to sell. You might consider something like the new Boundless CFC. One of the usual wags on another forum suggested I try it, being cheap (like $75 from PIU with the 15% discount). The maker has a growing reputation from older (more expensive) models, so I got one and have been playing with it off and on. I think it might be just the ticket for you.

It has a much larger bowl, on the order of .35 grams, so it holds about seven times as much as VM. It heats very fast (vapor in say 20 seconds?). That fast heat up is a clue that there's plenty of heater power on tap to support the hit.....and there is. While some guys no doubt can, I can't 'overrun' it hitting hard. Otherwise it has typical construction and features to offer, nice display, interesting shape, long runtime per charge, ceramic bowl and so on. Very little not to like if you're looking for a handy, discrete 'big gun' to put in your pocket.

Very sorry to hear VM isn't working out for you, but as you say it's not for everyone (what could be, really?). It can't be set up for users with hearty appetites like yours and yet have a bowl suitable for those on the frugal end of things. These things aren't magic, if you want lots of THC coming out you need to put a lot in. And if you want it to come out fast, you have to be willing to supply lots of power (heat) at the right time to make that happen.

VM is just tuned for the other end. It stores enough heat in normal mode to give a modest (but useful) hit on stored heat in the copper. You have to defeat that 'quantum heat storage' to get more volume. For instance, putting it on a WT and torching through the hit as some do so you can supply more total heat to the hit than VM normally allows. And concentrates might be the answer to 'not enough good stuff in one load for me'......but that's not really fixing a poor match either?

Being new and complete, hopefully it'll be easy to sell. You might consider something like the new Boundless CFC. One of the usual wags on another forum suggested I try it, being cheap (like $75 from PIU with the 15% discount). The maker has a growing reputation from older (more expensive) models, so I got one and have been playing with it off and on. I think it might be just the ticket for you.

It has a much larger bowl, on the order of .35 grams, so it holds about seven times as much as VM. It heats very fast (vapor in say 20 seconds?). That fast heat up is a clue that there's plenty of heater power on tap to support the hit.....and there is. While some guys no doubt can, I can't 'overrun' it hitting hard. Otherwise it has typical construction and features to offer, nice display, interesting shape, long runtime per charge, ceramic bowl and so on. Very little not to like if you're looking for a handy, discrete 'big gun' to put in your pocket.

Thanks, i am not really looking for a new vape, since ordering the Vapman i got a pair of Herborizers and they are IMO the ultimate home vape. And the Mighty and IQ are my travel vapes. I was just really curious about the vapman "for science", and this thread really sold it to me, but i had no need for it in the first place.

I upgraded from Crafty to Mighty. Mighty honey moon ended recently. it is leagues better/dependable than Crafty.... That being said, besides when i must be stealthy or doing many things at once, i prefer Vapman. for quick sessions, Vapman. when i'm trying new herbs for flavor, i go to vapman. i feel its much more efficient than my Mighty. to catch equal effects with Mighty off of one vapman bowl, i'd be using at a minimum 2x the amount of herbs. Vapor wise, i can hit vapman at really low temps or at very high temps. With Mighty i stay at 353f. any higher and tomorrow my lungs will be irritated. i had the same issue with Crafty, but that temp is where i'd like to be. nice effects, lovely long lasting flavor....

Glad you gave it a go. sorry it didn't meet and exceed your expectations. My advice would be, 'Don't give up on it so quick'?!

on another note, who pulled the trigger on a 2017 Vapman Station???!
whoever you are, tell me about it! i enjoy hearing VM Station stories!! i almost pulled the trigger, but 2 things made me hold back. 1. i've been waiting long enough as it is, a little more waiting won't kill me. and 2. i considered heavily, but i don't vape inside my current home. always outside or away from home so i wouldn't be able to use the station at my leisure. i decided to wait a bit, summer time VAS has become a constant/ritual in my life!

at the end of the day i opted for a SBJr. portable, butane powered, 100% convection. can't wait to do a SBJ vs Vapman review/dog fight!!

The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.

The bowl is far too small to make sens. Even packed with quality herbs it takes me 3 full loads in a row to get anywhere, this takes so much time it's just not worth doing. Also it's not like you can use it casually whilst doing something else, it is the main event and needs full attention.
Even if I were to use the heating station, I would still have to load this thing over and over! Maybe most happy users are micro dosers?
Not a fan of the mouthpiece either, tried ebony and plastic, didn't like them. I really think it gains a lot from using a longer glass stem, the MFLB stems fit great and are cheap.
Most importantly, i find the vapour underwhelming, compared to what i get from any of my electric power vapes, even after working out a technique to get very even dark brown avb without combusting, it is still nothing close to the vapour i get from my Herborizer, Mighty, IQ, or even my now dead GH.

I guess as a low tech "zombie survival" vape it kinda makes sens, but at home there is no valid reason for me to use it IMO. It's just not efficient enough. I would rather spend 5 minutes warming up my Herborizer and hitting a bowl in 3 hits, than spend 15 minutes loading/heating/unloadin the vapman over and over.
I can't imagine using it on the run either, it is just too much faff and not very discreet.

Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.

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The vape chooses the person .... you maybe did it backwards ?? i feel your displeasure at least lost you left doubts! I own a mighty, volcano, milaana, vrip, vaponic, pax and some more ... the vapman I use every day,befored vaponic but now the vapman,the rest no, not for it is better simply I give it more use and complementary perfecto !
I think you have a good sale for a new home if you do not want to give it another chance!
lucky And health

if you still want to try a butane vape but for larger amounts
id suggest maybe one of the sticky bricks - it will get you very medicated very quickly
wth lots of visible vapor
im using it atm ..to get really blasted

but when im in the mood for only using a little
..my tiny vapman is there for me

im using a plenty cooling coil with it
fits easily with existing adapter
..getting some nice cool puffs