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Shotguns are a strange area up here Lac. So long as the OAL (over all length) is over 26" you're OK. So this gun with it's 12.5" barrel is legal with is't full stock. If I put a pistol grip only stock on it I would only be able to use it at an established range. As is it can be my truck/bush gun.

Shotguns are a strange area up here Lac. So long as the OAL (over all length) is over 26" you're OK. So this gun with it's 12.5" barrel is legal with is't full stock. If I put a pistol grip only stock on it I would only be able to use it at an established range. As is it can be my truck/bush gun.

Ah, here it is 18" bbl and 26" OAL for federal lengths, states may be different.

I've long thought different laws for suppressors are strange too. In the States, they're sinister things, but in Europe people are more like "Well shooting a rifle is very loud, why wouldn't we want to make it quiet?"

I've long thought different laws for suppressors are strange too. In the States, they're sinister things, but in Europe people are more like "Well shooting a rifle is very loud, why wouldn't we want to make it quiet?"

If somebody made me in charge the NFA would be totally revamped. SBS, SBR and suppressors would no longer be susceptible to the SOT.

Just came back from the range after shooting smokeless and black powder shotguns. My son brought along his Winchester model 1911 and he tried it out on some clay targets, first with smokeless and then a round of clays firing black powder. The gun fired and cycled perfectly with every thing we put through it including mystery reloads i was given. These are well made shotguns but not very popular for some reason.

I've long thought different laws for suppressors are strange too. In the States, they're sinister things, but in Europe people are more like "Well shooting a rifle is very loud, why wouldn't we want to make it quiet?"

In some parts of europe at least. Here i Sweden they where banned for a long time (there was exeptions) and the main reason was to stop poaching but today itīs just to seek a permit for them and itīs a done deal. or rather: Seek the permit, wait for between a month up to 6 months so someone at the police get the thumb out of there a r s e and then get the permit. Itīs a new permit for every new silenser.

If somebody made me in charge the NFA would be totally revamped. SBS, SBR and suppressors would no longer be susceptible to the SOT.

Not to further derail the thread, but why would you keep any of NFA? I can see maybe certain destructive devices, but why should folks have to pay fees just to get an automatic weapon? If it is legal, then why financially screw people over it and throw on extra restrictions?