Too Many Additionals

There are too many things that need to be added/compiled to make this work. It would be best if you can make this work without requiring the extras. Having to compile 3 different apps is bad. The odds of a failure of a compile increase significantly. Yes, it increased to the point that I failed on the compile. This is not a good thing. Then to have the third package require me to post errors to a mailing list is stupidity at its greatest.

It makes me exposed to a group of individuals I don't want to be exposed to and it shows that the author of the programs don't want to assume responsibility for their work. Take ownership and make it work, make it work right and make it work the first time.

Re: Too Many Additio

Hi catmandu, BorqQueen,

First, thank you for taking the time to test guidance.

As to your problems, we'd love to get more detailed feedback on them, that is: At what point did compilation fail? What distro are you using, which versions of software guidance needs do you have installed on your system? What tools did were you going to compile 'by hand'? (For most distros there are packages for SIP, PyQt, PyKDE). libpythonize is needed if you want to run the applications from withing kcontrol, so that might be a candidate. (There's work going on to get that prepackaged also.)

As you might have noticed, we're still working on it, guidance is currently pre-beta, so it's no more than natural that there are issues around. We did this release in order to get aware of these issues still left and be able to fix them.

As to the dependencies you're complaining about: guidance is meant to get included in distros, so the packaging and installation / compilation of the dependencies will be nothing the end user ever will have to care about, compiling system administration tools is clearly developer's work, and you're testing beta software ...

Quite frankly, I'm wondering why it's stupidity to ask you to post feedback with errors to a mailinglist? It gives you the opportunity to get feedback from the people responsible for the errors you're getting. PyKDE is a good place to go with this kind of problems, the list is very responsive and there are people that are familiar with more and less common issues, and not at least we as the developers are around there also. You shouldn't be afraid that you're bothering people who don't want to have anything to do with it, they'll just ignore your posting.

KDE is a community based project, we're doing nothing but offering software, putting our free time in it, and I might add that guidance is working quite good for me. Without testers like you, we'd probably not be able to deliver a quality product.

Again, thanks for your feedback, and a little patience and more productive feedback would certainly be helpful. :-)

Re: Too Many Additio

Lemme tell you guys that I am quite disappointed to see such comments. Sebas could well be quite upset and disgusted by your attitude, Catmandu and BorgQueen.

*Your comment* is stupidity as its greatest, Catmandu. Who are you to tell people what they should do? Sebas wrote a software. He didn't have to. So YOU have to abide by HIS rule. Period. If you're not happy, go buy Microsoft products, so you can be ignored by their hotline.

I'm impressed Sebas manages to respond calmly and kindly to such silly posts.

Re: error

Can you email the author directly (simon@simonzone.com) with this error message and also say what distro you are using and which version libtool you have. (in the shell run "libtool --version" to find out what version it is).

How do you like Plasma 5? The best KDE Desktop ever. Definitely a nice improvement. Not decided yet. Haven't tried it yet. I do not like some of the changes. KDE is taking the wrong way. I am still sticking with KDE 3.5. I have no opinion, but wanted to vote anyway.

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