Terry Pratchett wrote:Humans would do anything to see if it was possible. If you put a large switch in a cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.

I've seen at least one video of the incident, and it sounded like a warzone. The guy was seemingly stood in his hotel room emptying magazine after magazine of ammunition into the crowd, at a range of what looks to be about 400-500m. It was clearly an automatic weapon.

Jez wrote:Does trumps comment - warmest condolences and sympathies....does that read funny to you guys? Would you say "warmest" in this context?

It sounds a little odd, but Trump's grasp of the English language has always been a little tenuous. I don't think it's worth reading anything into it.

Just a horrible thing to have happened, in a weekend of horrible things happening.

Apparently there are early reports/rumours that he and his wife/girlfriend were thrown out of the concert earlier that evening, and she was wandering around nearby saying people were going to die (not sure if that's in a 'warning them' kind of way, or a gloating kind of way).

Raid wrote:The death toll's gone up to 58, and injured up to 515. I hope the new numbers of injured are only minor injuries or flesh wounds or something, because these numbers are horrific.

Biggest death toll in modern-times US. Orlando had 49 fatalities, which at the time it happened was the biggest.

Horrid.

In terms of motive all I can glean from the BBC reports is that it looks like there was a lot of gambling related money going in and out of his accounts recently (in the tens of thousands of dollars), and out of pure supposition am guessing that he suffered big losses and snapped.

Saw an interview with his brother. The whole family is mystified and horrified. He was a 64 year old retired accountant with no previous interest in guns or military background. Just a normal guy... until something snaps in his brain and he kills nearly 60 people.

Islamic State are trying to claim this was done in their name (as usual), although no proof of that at all at present. And the woman who's picture they showed as connected was apparently out of the country at the time of the incident.

Police named the man they believe was responsible as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, who lived in a retirement community in Mesquite, Nevada. They have not said anything about a motive.

Sheriff Joe Lombardo said officers found "in excess of 10" rifles in his room.

"We have no investigative information or background associated with this individual that is derogatory," Sheriff Lombardo said.

"The only thing we can tell is that he received a citation several years ago and that citation was handled as a matter of normal practice in the court system."

The so-called Islamic State group said it was behind the attack, although they offered no evidence.

"The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago," the group said in a statement.

The FBI said they had found "no connection" with international terrorism.

There was an appeal to find another "person of interest" named Marilou Danley, 62, who officials say was travelling with the gunman before the shooting.

She is now believed have been out of the country and is not a suspect, police said.

Terry Pratchett wrote:Humans would do anything to see if it was possible. If you put a large switch in a cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.