: Recruiting policy utilizes a "Raid-seat" system to determine if a certain class is closed. We use this system to round out the needed classes we need to maintain to have adequate forces at most given times. This system is based on MAINs. Say we have 10 warriors, but they all want to play their rangers one night. :P Well those are the only 10 we have as for recruiting purposes, raid seats for warriors are full. (not exact numbers, just illustrating a point) We are a guild of mains, and sometimes seem to have a waiting list for things like raid-ins etc.. it just makes sense to reward mains more richly than alts.

Hit the nail on the head I feel right there. I was always confused on the "Not required to raid at all, but we close application to the guild based on raid attendance." It's like taking 1+2 and trying to equal 4. You're recruited to the guild based on your main. You want to play your alt, that's cool, but i agree with worff that mains should be rewarded more.

Or if not, the class needed are completely hypocritical and should be open and the raid leader fill the raid on who is needed. But that's another can of worms.

I understand the use for it, limit the amount at the raids, but as said, if we are light on warriors, and a warrior main who was recruited as a warrior wants to play an alt, that's cool, just no DKP should be given.

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I'm more sympathetic of alts than boxes so I voted yes if you meet the requirements. However that comes with another condition. If the raid leader asks you to change to your main for the success of the raid you must do it.

Ceruis, I get the impression you haven't tried to ask ppl to switch toons at raids before. Because your post is awfully idealistic.

Well, I guess I should of put two and two together to get four, but I failed math. According to The Philospical Inventory I'm far from idealistic, I but thought some of the those question were dorky anyways. I guess it goes back to the Reid Leader configuring the raid. They do whats best for the guild to ensure success so if people wanna be dicks about changing toons then kick them out of the raid for someone else with that class. Seems pretty simple from my perspective, but I haven't been a raid leader so I don't know the other half. But regardless, whatever toon shows up should get dkp for their time. If your going to do anything, limit the amount they can bid on items. It a check to make sure prime loot isn't going to some goofball who's toon sits on the shelf more often than not.

Knowing me, I won't be back to the website until Monday to check the final decision from this poll. So i wanted to throw out a quick reminder that if you haven't voted, please do so before the end of the weekend.

Should Alts be able to accrue DKP when not requested? Yes, with no restrictions as currently stated in policy. 22% [ 11 ] Yes, but only if the alt meets the requirements on a full member (ie. lvl 70 and any future requirements placed) 39% [ 19 ] No, only a character requested by the raid leader or a main may accrue DKP. 37% [ 18 ]

48 votes so far with 91 Active raiders in July. So we are hearing from about 53% of the guild so far. That leaves tons of room to make a clear final decision, with things the way they are now, it appears the middle option will prevail.

First, I think everyone agrees that the most important thing is for the Raid Leaders to be able to get the toons they need for a successful raid. I often ask the RL who I should bring, Tois or Leebe, and I'm almost always told, "whoever you want." There should never be any grief given to the RL on this issue. Providing the raid with the right mix of toons is a priority. BUT, this is not a dkp issue.

I would be extremely disappointed if I could only get dkp from a raid if I brought Tois or had a special request to bring Leebe. I get bored playing one class all the time. It would make EQ a lot less fun if I could only raid with one class. This is especially true when we are doing backflagging raids. I would not mind asking the RL for permission to bring Leebe (although I do not know if Raid Leaders want to deal with these extra tells).

I know there are a number of considerations at work here. I think they can be worked out. But, I think it would be extreme to change the rules in a way that makes it impractical for alts to gather dkp and improve.