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Yeah. Felt like Machi was just a feeble shadow of Tohru in some ways. And she came in so late to the game - just a balm for the fact that Yuki was not getting Tohru. I don't think I'll ever properly get over this. To this day my favorite couple from that series is Shigure/Akito.

I also think Momiji/Tohru would be very sweet as well, since Momiji also grew to love Tohru. Kagura should have been with Kyo!

Kagura with Kyo would have been great yeah I agree with the Momiji part...but not with the Shigure/Akito part just because I watched the anime first and Akito was a guy in the anime and he became my favorite....when I read that he was a girl in the manga I almost had a heart attack and couldn't continue reading the manga for a long time XD I don't think I have fully recovered from the shock and disappointment yet

When it comes to Nana, the only pair I really love would be Nana x Hachi. I mean seriously, they'd be perfect for each other. All the author had to do was tweak their complex friendship a bit, and then it would be yuri-supreme. But in all seriousness, they compliment each other so well, and they pretty much are each others soul-mates regardless of whether that is platonic or not.

And speaking of Hachi; yes, she's very faulted, silly and immature at times but..I think the reason I love her (and her friends still do in the manga) is because underneath that all, she still cares so much about her friends and family, she's still loving and kind. She's far more complex and layered than she looks - in my opinion she's the most complex of the whole series, and he mistakes and sugar are just a sheet over those personality traits.

For an actual couple, I never did love Nana x Ren...But that is because I never liked Ren. I would have preferred Nana to be with Yasu any day.

Oh I love Hachi I was just expressing the feelings I felt back then when she cheated on Nobu =D actually, I had a love and hate 'relationship' with both Nanas. You see, in the end I started to like Hachi, hence why I was rooting for her to go back with Nobu...and in the end I started to dislike Nana because I thought she was very melodramatic. Hachi in the beginning got on my nerves just because she did stupid things but she (and others) saw herself as the victim, desperately looking for love in the wrong arms. I loved Nobu and I was so mad at her for being so weak and for cheating.

But in the end, Hachi developed into a strong, amazing woman and the cool Nana developed into a hot mess! I thought she was like the strongest female character I have ever seen but she turned out desperate and weak in my eyes BUT I still loved Nana!! these girls made me feel a lot back then...haha

I wrote a review about the anime and this is a *small* insert where I was trying to understand why Nana was being so weak and dramatic when Hachi went to live with Takumi. I wrote it like....a LONG time ago 0.0 please excuse my spelling and rambling thoughts XD this was when I didn't know about yuri or yaoi either but I still could see something...I rambled on and on XD read if you'd like.

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I have watched the whole anime and I must say that while I enjoyed it, it also left a sour taste in my mouth.

The main character Nana turned out so weak and miserable...I thought she was cool at first but the whole drama with Hachi's baby was unnecessary, she was so depressed and almost died!! o___O not even Nobu, who was her boyfriend, felt that way when he found out that Hachi was pregnant and that she chose to marry Takumi . But there's something that makes me think that these girls are crazy for one another. The whole Hero and heroine talk felt like both Nanas were crazily in love with each other....but it's not realistic or is it? that all these feelings and situations happened in just a period of 6 months but then again, some people only need one glance for a mere few seconds to fall in love.

I feel like I've been watching the anime for years because I feel so connected to the characters...and annoyed by them sometimes. One thing that bothered me a bit was when Ren died and Nana didn't react, well she was in shock but I believe that if it has been Hachi who would have died instead, Nana would have killed herself or something. It's complicated and I think that's the reason why Nana was so weak. She didn't understand her feelings for Hachi, why did she want her so much? like Hachi said in the beginning: even though they are so different in personality, style and thinking...both get along so well...maybe that's what you call "when some people just click". And she also said that if Nana was a guy she would fall in love with her which makes me realize that Hachi feels a deep love and admiration for her hero but whatever decision Nana takes I know Hachi would accept it and try to help her. It makes me feel that Hachi really loves her like her soul mate but Nana said in one occasion that she felt like a guy having his first crush and that guy was her of course and the crush was Hachi. Nana could have romantic feelings for Hachi...because she said once that the reason why this was so complicated was because they're both women. They're both soul mates, meant to be together forever. Too bad that the mangaka went on hiatus and we will never know why and when Nana decided to cut off ties with everyone by running away to England.

In sum, it's almost the same thing to what you said "they'd be perfect for each other. All the author had to do was tweak their complex friendship a bit, and then it would be yuri-supreme" *nods*

I liked Ren...there wasn't much about him in the anime but in the manga he always looked happy and positive even though he was an orphan...too bad that his success and fame was too overwhelming that he started to do drugs, he would have died sooner or later by choosing that path but still, I was so saddened when he died. As for Yasu and Nana, Yasu was in love with Nana but he knew that his friendship with Ren was precious and he wouldn't risk to lose it by making Nana his(because he could have done it!)....he's a good friend and that's why I admired him a lot. Nana gave me the feeling that she wanted Yasu to make a move on her when she asked him "why you never asked me out?" or something a long those lines. Even if Nana would have made a move on him, I bet that Yasu would have rejected her no matter how much he wanted her *hats off to Yasu*. Some people are just not meant to be.

I still root for them though! if the manga comes back and Nana is found, I want her to marry Yasu and leave that other girl...who was so plain for me OR become the yuri anime it should have been XD

All in all, there's no one in this precious anime I truly hate... except Misato or whatever her name is...she has that stupid hair style (blonde curly pig tails) and annoying voice and Yasu's new lover...I didn't hate her but I didn't like her either. Favorites... Boys: Shin<3 Yasu <33 Nobu<33 Ren, Sochi, Takumi. Girls: Reira, Hachi, Jun and Nana.

Sorry for the lengthy, unnecessary post! I just get very passionate with this anime and it's been so long since I don't talk about it with no one it's like people forgot about it.

Toradora: Ami and Ryuuji. To say I was pissed at Tora for somehow winding up with Ryuuji is an understatement. Did I see it coming a mile away because of what the show is titled and how this schtick works? Yup, doesn;t make me any less pissed off at that ending.Clannad: Tomoya and Kyou.

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Nagisa and Ushio should have stayed dead, Tomoya gets found by Kyou in the snow while he basically checks out with him blue screening after his kid just died in his arms. She brings them to a hospital and finds that Ushio is dead and stays by Tomoya's side to help him through his grievances since everyone else in his life has gone off to parts unknown. He gets his life back together and stays with Kyou because she's become his lifeline and starts to fall for her while finally recovering from the tragedy that has been his life. They finally hook up after an unspecified amount of time get married and the ending has them as a family with 1 or 2 kids in a field.

^THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE should have been the ending to Clannad, not that mother-effing BS copout of an ending we were given. This is one of the very few instances where the VN ending should have been swapped for a better anime only ending.Haruhi: Kyon and Mikuru. I had to drop Haruhi I just couldn't stand Haruhi not to mention the fact that Kyon is basically forced to put up with her and loses any chance of being with a girl who legitimately cares about him and isn't an douchebag about it.Guilty Crown: Shu Oma and Ayase (the crippled girl). I had hoped that at the ending of the series Shu had moved on from

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Inori's death

and would have wound up together with Ayase after she moved on from Gai. Sadly that never happened but I wasn't totally shot in the foot for that one so I still say it's canon dang it.

Everything else that out of the few hundred different series I've watched normally gives me a couple I'm happy with or can at least accept for one reason or another but these 4 just bugged the ever loving crap out of me because they should have happened, at the very logically.

I think Tohru/Momiji would have been very sweet and touching, even though it is not my main Tohru pairing (that would have to be Yuki/Tohru). Still, I really like Tohru/Momiji too - anything over Tohru/Kyo! D:

Funny, just the title of the thread brought Jo and Laurie to mind before I even read the OP's explanation. I guess that one has been disappointing readers for centuries now.

From another classic, Jane and St. John. There are probably way fewer people who commiserate with me on this one, but John even with all of his flaws was still so much of a better man to me than Rochester. That and the suggestion that the only time she truly felt on equal footing with the guy is after he became an old cripple fully dependent on his young wife to attend to him constantly. That whole deal just didn't feel empowered at all. Maybe it worked back then, but in this day and age that ending was just bleh.

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Now I simply adore Jane Eyre - it is one of my all-time favorite books ever, with one of my top characters ever. I've never, ever, heard someone say they wanted Jane to be with St John in my life. I've gotten the occasional "Jane should have remained alone" but never your suggestion. Now, I'm a hardcore Jane/Rochester (Edward) person, but I'm curious as to why you like St John better than Rochester? I'm not arguing or anything - I'm all for having pairs you like regardless; I'm just curious :D

St John for me, he had no emotion whatsoever. Or rather, he refused to display any emotion, even the merest flicker of it. He was austere and cold to a fault, and his strictness to his faith and removal of all love from his life stripped him of any personality and made him nothing more than a handsome statue. Was he brilliant? Oh yes, he was incredibly intelligent, well versed; brilliant even. But for all that, his personality was nothing more than a faint shadow – he was nothing beyond his brains, because he repressed himself too much. If he was with Jane, it would be all take no give. He couldn't get the girl he loved once upon a time, so he'd use Jane as a missionary wife; using her intelligence and undying (though quiet) spirit to assist him in his work. He’d give her no love, no affection (something which she desperately yearns for her whole life) and they would be two single people in a most unloving marriage. Jane admires his intelligence – oh yes she does; that is something she has always valued in people. But beyond that there is nothing that she likes about him. Even his outrageously handsome looks mean nothing to her for there is no spark of life underneath the layers of flesh and bone.

Then there is Mr. Rochester. Older, not conventionally good looking. Incredibly flawed, bitter, rude and cursed by life. Yes he’s again; brilliant, sharp, at times witty and teasing. The more he interacts with Jane the more his harsher edges disappear. He really blossoms with Jane, and his good qualities come more and more to light because Jane gives him affection and love that (like her) he has yearned for. In terms of Rochester being a bad man, I can’t agree. His circumstances are bad, and yes; he’s made some bad choices (especially with the whole marriage to Jane – that was the absolute worst) – but he’s never evil, truly cruel or really “bad”. He’s very flawed, he’s tragic and he’s the “dark anti-hero” to Jane’s idealistic hero, yet he’s still a better person than St John in the sense that Rochester acknowledges his faults and comes to terms with them eventually whereas St John doesn’t.

St John prides himself on his austere, emotionless personality. He’s never done anything wrong, and he’s insanely religious to a fault. Sure, he’s a good man, but there’s really nothing to him outside of his religious fanaticism. In fact, because he’s so cold and emotionless, he actually pushes people away from him and makes himself rather unlikable. Mr. Rochester on the other hand has done many things wrong, and he’s not the best of men for a good chunk of the book. But that’s the beauty of it – unlike St John who thinks himself good the way he is, Rochester redeems himself and atones for what he’s done. He really grows as a character and a person while St John just stays his same cold self, never moving at all – like stone.

In the finale of Jane Eyre, Mr. Rochester becomes crippled physically. However, becoming crippled does not mean one is not empowered anymore. He’s still empowered, even more so now that he has overcome his faults and only his good qualities are there to rely on. After a while, Rochester learns to deal with his new physical impediments, and even partially regains his sight. So he’s only really relied on Jane for a time being, and that is only natural that he should, considering he wasn’t in the best bodily form.

Jane has never been un-empowered before or after this incident. She’s always been in control of herself, always the one in charge of herself. She’s so strong mentally, and she doesn’t let anyone speak for her; nor does she let Rochester overpower her in any way shape or form even when he is the master of the house when she is governess… so I don’t understand why you would feel that she only feels confident after Rochester’s accident?

Or maybe it is just one of those things where you just like a couple regardless?

Funny, just the title of the thread brought Jo and Laurie to mind before I even read the OP's explanation. I guess that one has been disappointing readers for centuries now.

centuries? Little Women is less than 150 years old lol XD

well while we're on the topic of classic literature, i never liked Heathcliff. I mean , she marries the guy i liked .. but she really loved the jerk guy... actually... it's kinda like 98% of shoujo out there lol. well it's not that one dimensional or cliche, but still.

well while we're on the topic of classic literature, i never liked Heathcliff. I mean , she marries the guy i liked .. but she really loved the jerk guy... actually... it's kinda like 98% of shoujo out there lol. well it's not that one dimensional or cliche, but still.

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Not to mention that Wuthering Heights is one of my most hated things ever. Ever.

I cannot stand Heathcliff, nor Cathy. And speaking of characters I dislike in lit, I loathe Lara from Doctor Zhivago. Yeah yeah, symbolism yada yada - still hate her, the whore! At least Yuri is interesting though he's another whoring douche (again though, symbolism...). I loathed Yuri/Lara while it lasted. Yuri should have stuck to Tonya or not married her in the first place!