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illegal aliens contributing members of society? Really? In what way? The complaint is they get free medical, education, welfare and don't pay a dime in taxes.

So anyway, once they are legal guess what, no more working for less than minimum wage. So other illegals will have to come in to replace them. If/when amnesty runs out they will still have to be hunted down and deported. Same boat we are in now but several million dollars later.

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:rainbowflower: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. :rainbowflower:

bigbearomaha

oh yes, because we all know only republicans engage in partisan politicking, grandstanding, deliberately being obstinate so the "other side" doesn't get their way. OH no, Democrats have NEVER done that have they?

sorry, neither party in my opinion is worth a sheep's fart.

people who play partisan politics are only playing games with the American peoples lives and money for their own gain.

We need to get rid of both of those bunches of crooks and get people who give their allegiance to all of the people of this country and the Constitution. period.

the democrat and republican parties should be tried for treason and every card carrying member either deported or hung at dawn.

got a lot of people wanting to hang me these days. must be doing something right! :-D

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

I read something about a fence they planned to build that would only cover 700 miles. It is thought to cost about 42 billion dollars over the next 25 years to build and maintain. I believe it will cost a lot more than that as it will be getting destroyed every day.

But think about hiring 19,600 more people to patrol the border for 25 years and their yearly wage is 100,000 dollars19,600x 25x100,000

equals $49,000,000,000

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:rainbowflower: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. :rainbowflower:

There is a lot of politics on the table over this. Lindsay Graham pulled his support for an energy bill because he wanted immigration to be up first. Now that energy is dead until after the election, maybe immigration could move. On the other hand, if Republicans start grandstanding against amnesty, there will be no bill until after the election.

If you add the word Democrates before or after Republicans you will have the root cause of America's problem

Keith

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bigbearomaha

kathy, perhaps I was not specific enough, when I say "card carrying" I am referring to the criminals with the audacity to run for public office, not the folks who simply expect representatives to do their jobs.

When I worked in the southern half of Az a few years ago, I wanted to sentence all illegals that we caught, to 90 days of fence building before kicking them back across the border... No one would listen...

When I worked in the southern half of Az a few years ago, I wanted to sentence all illegals that we caught, to 90 days of fence building before kicking them back across the border... No one would listen...

Great idea! Too bad the "powers that be" can't be a sensible as you and I... :-D

The biggest problem with what Ariz. wants to do it it creates a need for everyone to "show their papers", much like Nazi Germany.

Instead of this path, they should take on the task of defending the Ariz. southern border. The Governor could recall her National Guard troops from federal service and deploy them with live weapons where needed.

After a few dozen illegals are shot and killed, the rest of them will stop crossing into Ariz.

The feds can whine and cry all they want but since they do not enforce the border, the state is obligated to do it. See:

Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States"No State shall, ........ engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

The Mexican drug gangs are ARMED INVADERS, it is perfectly proper for the Ariz. Governor to defend her Citizens and their property, since Obama prefers to not stop them, but let them in, so they can eventually become Democrat voters.

MagicValley:Perhaps you might enjoy looking up the definition of "hyperbole".

Maybe you should look up the words identification and authorization. You can't get onto a plane or in a courthouse without it. It is required everyday for legals, so why not for illegals. Are criminals more privileged than legals?

According to Obummer and the dumocrats, they seem to think so.

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The biggest problem with what Ariz. wants to do it it creates a need for everyone to "show their papers", much like Nazi Germany.

while i agree with you on most of your post, this part is not accurate. if you are here legally on a work permit or visa you are already required to carry that info. if you are a citizen and you are stopped without ID you may not be arrested, but you will certainly be detained until your ID can be verified.

any law can be taken to extremes. the difference between a nation of laws and a totalitarian government is only a matter of degrees.

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....