Re: Born into a secret Bloodline Order - How I got introduced to the world of Occulti

People truly should try get more active, more exploring, find the truth on their own from their own direct personal experiences, which really is the only useful thing to do to gain any actual insight and knowledge and progress of development.

I can tell you think you have done all these things thoroughly. However if you had my experiences you would not be saying remotely close to a lot of what you have said. It's really impossible to know from the experiences I have been shown.

Yes, the whole Pleiadian part has to do with a previous life to do, not any current ongoing contact with any alien race of any kind.

I hazard a guess you also made this decision based on search engine results for having pleiadian in your website name? Because clear logic points to such if you are the type to consider all bases. I consider what my search engine results will be when picking a name for my domains.

This makes you an ascended master contactee. Just noting a very tiny tiny dot that may have no real line connected, but fitting for a "grandmaster" an "ascended master" would be the angle to gain access to their mind without guard, if that is the case. I'm not clueless about the tactics used by the sources I deal with. And you have their signatures quite abundantly. However this could be an illusion of mine. I acknowledge that possibility.

Now I dont know what kind of way you were in contact with such entites you mention

I can 100% verify I am dealing with extremely cruel, horrible forces. I've been tortured with synthesized pain signals, and synthetic emotions, and other flavors of anguish like claustrophobic feelings and derivatives without a name because they do not occur naturally like a thousand times. Maybe more when I gained more memories of it(my previous estimate was about 600-700 times for what I would term torture, thousands of pains etc). They do things like make me puke for meeting people in person, make me gag like 2-15 times during phone convos I have about it, as my phone is likely tapped by many governments who may not be all privy to what goes on directly in my mind but do look at all my internet data/posts to keep up to tabs as to what the US gov is up to. I know I'm not dealing with astral entities in almost all likelihood. I met a human agent in person, I've seen them zap a moth out of the sky after asking me if i wanted that demonstration, I've experienced practically every single MK ultra and project monarch reported capability/list of objectives, and all of it is documented historical fact that in the 60's they could do these things:

alter memory, alter the thinking process, alter emotions, make hostile, make non-hostile, make gay(which I have experienced for about 3 seconds), alter sexual behavior, control the body remotely, and more. This is documented by the CIA mind control researcher Jose Delgado. They have hacked my computer. They have orchestrated an unnatural car crash, they have predicted events to me that happened, they have shown me UFOs in a multitude of occasions, they have had people run by and make hand signs at me they predicted would happen, and a lot more. At the very least humans are involved and the level of control and manipulation is obviously the US government IMHO. Because I have spoken to numerous others who are obviously just experimentees of this technology. There are thousands peppered all over the USA reporting the same things with no real agenda detectable other than experimentation for many, they even do things like enhance music with mind control technology to any song i pick for them to map. I would bet 1,000$ this is not a demon/inter-dimensional doing all of this..... In fact it's impossible it's an inter-dimensional being is doing all of this(IE: meeting an agent in person, which I may also add, inducted me into a secret society that i later on rejected my membership in, and never really agreed to join it).

That is just a fraction of my story. The benevolent side is not proven to me, even though I do have experiences on part with you on many levels that I could misdiagnose as proven. But at this point, and the levels of illusions I have witnessed, i CANNOT say that it is proven. Only the evil is proven because a benevolent group simply would not do all the bad things done to me. The bad things done to me is a laundry list no non-insider knows fully.... And its not pretty.... Its one of the biggest acts of injustice i have heard my entire life no matter what time in history actually, and theres no bias or exaggeration there.

if it was a direct contact face to face in the astral planes

I've only had one induced experience that could be the astral. The rest were in dream state virtual reality technology that surely can synthesize to fully indiscernable status, the astral as well. So face to face astral contact cannot be proven to me given my experiences. I've had countless engineered dreams.

and one can do different tests to check if the entity is what it claims such as analyse their energetic makeup and see if they radiate negative or positive sensations

I've encountered some of the most enlightened beings imaginable, that were fabrications. Their energy was so severely pure and beautiful. So judging them based on how you feel from them is EXTREMELY liable to illusions. I hate to break it to ya, but I dont expect you to accept it as possible. Because if your experiences are illusory in any way, natural human dynamics means that the bigger the illusion one takes in, the harder it is to dislodge. And if they are playing with you, your illusion is MASSIVE. much like mine were.

if they fill you up with love and peace when in close distance to them or if its some colder more sinister type of energy

I've seen both done with extreme levels of purity or dissonance, by total fabrications done by technology. And I suppose its like a 1% chance its inter-dimensional beings. Enough for me to sturdily say its not. Why would an inter-dimensional being track every thought ive had since a child and only do like 30 things to me (extremely rough estimate) in like 15 years? Yet keep documented recording of my consciousness, full consciousness, down to every level of of my deepest feelings, and recording of these my entire life.

You seem to think astral beings cannot deceive you with the most pure love feelings you have ever felt, so even by your own logic my case could not be what you are experiencing. Since when do astral beings put links in your favorites they said they would through you, about the vatican, and then destroy your computer eventually.. and do things like lazer moths out of the sky, and orchestrate car crashes, and torture you in obvious fashions firmly based in nazi mind control tactics termed trauma based mind control.. Humans can do this stuff.... The black project testimonies of government sources report this, too.

A quote taken directly by me from his book (Physical Control of the Mind Towards a Psychocivilized Society) Published I believe in 1969:"He shows how, by electrical stimulation of specific cerebral structures, movements can be induced by radio command, hostility may appear or disappear, social hierarchy can be modified, sexual behavior may be changed, and memory, emotions and the thinking process may be influenced by remote control"

Experienced it all.

"Autonomic and somatic functions, individual and social behaviors, emotional and mental reactions may be evoked, maintained, modified, or inhibited, both in animals and in man, by electrical stimulation of specific cerebral structures. Physical control of many brain functions is a demonstrated fact. ... It is even possible to follow intentions, the development of thoughts, and visual experiences" wrote the CIA mind control scientist Dr. José Delgado in the book Physical Control of the Mind in 1969.

All again, I've been through many times.

"One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them."
Scientific Advisory Board of the Air Force, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century

Once again, seen it all.

ask your Inner Guide and Intuition to filter lies from truth so you see what is for what it really is

intuition is fully open source. So thats obsolete for me unless they allow it due to order, or just allowing it. And I've asked every source imaginable for help and escaping my torture, which happens every single day, for years now, literally every single one. Do they give me holidays and birthdays off? Nope. They hit me harder on those days.

Not to mention government insiders such as harley on the nexus 2012 forum report the exact same tactics and capabilities done to him when he was about to come forward publicly(if i interpreted him right). Now why would an astral being act exactly like the US gov with it's obviously assumable agenda... I'll stop there. I'm not convinced for a second I'm dealing with astral beings or inter-dimensionals. However its remotely, and I mean remotely possible. They have used all the standard CIA discrediting tactics on me.... By the book. microwave technology on me to get me considered schizo(electronic telepathy), tactics reported widely in the USA in every single state as if they were dispersed to not be common in any region perfectly, doing exact but quite more capable defined actions reported by irrefutable government sources, shown me space wars tech, met an agent in person, and on and on and on... No, I dont think I'm dealing with inter-dimensional demons(although they may have enjoyed my energy when I am tortured by this stuff.

ask them how they found you, why they contacted you, where they normally reside and what they do there, and so on.

It's all liable to be lies.

Be skeptical and aware and keep your mind clear, rational and logical.

Rationality and logical analysis are functions of the physical brain, or at least have overlapping affects. And they can negate both clearly, and undetected at the time of it happening(and with no analytical thought analysis, you dont think to think about it).

and there's only positive and loving energies involved

Judging a force by how you interpret it's energy, has been clearly, and irrefutably shown to me, as totally unreliable. It can all be synthesized.

If communicating with someone claiming to be God, it will always be a lie and deceit and someone else.

I hold a similar theory. But I hold mine as a theory, not fact. I'm just highly skeptical God would telepathically communicate with people, cherry picking favorites and such(if that applies). And that is largely based on the sheer amount of beings in the universe.

No, far from a flaw[reincarnation cycles], it is completely on purpose and designed exactly for the opposite reason of what is generally believed and misinformed about in different religious systems. It is usually seen as a positive thing, part of some illogical development system, that supposedly is for your own good and will help you ascend and enter higher levels of existence etc. That is all just nonsense

How is it illogical? lol. You see varying degrees of wisdom. One brother who looks exactly the same can hold vast amounts of wisdom more than the other brother. This leads me to believe the soul maintains a system of ascension in terms of wisdom, and where we are indeed is partly a task to learn spiritually. It may be wrong, I concede that. But it's not illogical IMO. No less logical than you next lines:

it is a real construct, but its purpose is to maintain people in physical bodies, keep them from moving away and develop in any way, to make sure they will not reach any understanding or self-realization but rather stay here ignorant and trapped over and over to function as slaves of the negative entity that created the physical body and designed it in ways that makes it easy to control and manipulate and have the Soul trapped within.

I find this illogical myself. to define physical incarnation as all slaves for negative entities. lol... That is a design flaw IMHO. And exactly what I meant when saying it. It's easy to say it's a trap system meant for us being slaves, little vessels to manipulate and nothing else for lords above us, in all the vastness of the universe in physicality, all the beings out there, all slaves and made to be in their situation to be manipulated... Sound like something a sociopath would create to me. That is why it's illogical to me. Sounds like a creation of Satan if he actually existed.

It would be much much harder on a more developed and spiritually evolved planet where life is paradise for 100% of the people for over 99% of their lives. Would be harder to rationalize your point of view then. And I have full faith that places like that exist in the physical dimension we are in. The universe is too big for it not to have that. In fact I hazard to guess that more planets with advanced lifeforms are likened to gardens of eden(metaphor), and "heaven" but in 3d+(where heaven and hell are IMHbut-not-totally-sure-the-truthO). This planet may be a playden for demons and negative beings, and exploiting ETs and experimenters etc, as we are a young very dysfunctional race of humans as a whole. However in less than 100 years in America for example, I'd say at the very least 20-30% less people are racist, in just a mere 100 years, which isn't even a blink of an eye for earth in history. I think its safe to say that we will ascend towards benevolence and reason as time passes(although not without occasional steps backwards), and eventually either die out(I dont put chips in that one), or become responsible stewards of our planet, and start creating reality for ourselves. You version of reality there is not reasonable to me to think we(our race) are going to be constantly stuck in this hellhole(while some are in heaven, usually sociopaths or clueless people).

Totally not vibin with that one brother. But I do not have disrespect for you for having that view. It's possible. Like buddha saying it. I agree, this planet right now is kind of like a prison for the awake. Pretty hostile. But I don't think that is indefinite at all. Our history is PUNY. Say we came along when the dinosaurs did. What would we be at now? Not a bunch of idiots I dont think. lol. But thats just my top model of 3d progression and evolving and transcending the brutality of nature alphas and patriarchal oppression of the more beautiful side(feminine, but i hold a big bias there), and not so smoothely at times transitioning into being responsible caretakers of this planet. A reality where this planet is doomed as slaved for negative beings does not resonate at all.... I wont even mention the psychological effects that may have and the MK ties that may be having in terms of agenda.. nvm..... well not in depth mention i mean...

Hypnosis is a very powerful tool to gain control over people, change their though-patterns, manipulate and deceive them, get them extremely open for commands and suggestions, and a clear indication on a function put in place for these very purposes, and something most of us can see is being used by people in power, the negative ones, the Elite, and so on to abuse, manipulate, deceive and create false beliefs and ideas in people, program them and make them act in the ways they want them to.

I totally agree. But I'm sure you put yourself not being able to be put into these states. It's not always easy to discern, especially if you are in, as you say "altered states of mind" that have layers that mask the telltale signs of it(which are very subtle with technological hypnosis).

I've experienced it. Unless you have firmly established beliefs in it, most if not all are toast. Well in saying that, I guess more accurately, if you have confusion in an area, or severe lack of knowledge, it's pretty much check mate from my experiences for any multilayers intelligent illusion. And I'm no naive person or an idiot, or weak minded. Never was. My will was very very strong before they started major control of me. It doesn't matter. The intelligence matters nothing with hypnosis, mainly firmly pre-established beliefs do from my experiences. And it doesn't zonk you into a zombie state. Its extremely hard to tell, especially if you do not suspect foul play, as you clearly do not in your experiences.

In other words, humans are per design created to be as open as possible in so many different ways to truly maximize the effects of influence and create a high success rate for achieving such manipulation.

I totally agree, at least with the open source part. I've experienced levels of open source Avalonians, I hazard to guess, do not like hearing about. Because it goes against new age optimism. However it doesn't mean we lose. Its just the truth. We'll win IMO. And thats a strong opinion.

There is only one real logical conclusion that makes perfect sense to why it is that, and that is because human bodies were designed to be controlled and make sure the Souls trapped in them will stay stuck ignorant, manipulated around, easily controlled, and completely in power of those running the show.

Or that control has both a balance of both negative and positive aspects, and humans have enough physical overlapping and enmeshing of soul and brain/etc that literally every single thing in our lives can be enhanced to truly heavenly levels as well as hellish control and torture/manipulation. Also a big one. Which we'll have for a very long time I tend to think unless we get help(which I'm not sure advanced genetic help in manipulating our species through synthetic means is smart), that means through mind control we can negate any pain we ever have(they negate my pain at times), take away any mental dysfunction we have, addiction, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, phobias, odd and not so good traits, sociopathy, and everything else, all able to be eliminated with mind control. How open source mind control is, which I venture to guess its that way for most physical body having races, means we can fix any problem we ever have mentally, until we as a race are healthy enough to not need it for that, and only those who wants to enhance every single sense oriented experience in their life(if not a purist/naturalist), making life truly worthy of the title heaven beyond your wildest dreams eventually if we decide to.

Ask your ascended masters if they will show you music enhancing mind control. It's mind blowing and awesome. It's the apex of music for humans of our kind. The stimulation possible is quite profound. Like tears rolling down your face profound(in a ggood way), or immensely interesting profound, or just stimulating in a sensory fashion in a way that is as multidimensional as consciousness itself.

Like just about anything in the universe, mind control is a balance. It's capable of the greatest good we can name, as well as the greatest bad. It can cure(synthetically) blindness, as well a paralysis, and deafness. Cure depression, addiction, anxiety of any kind, ANY mental dysfunction it can cure without crappy side effects. Ever wonder why so much we have has side effects? Crappy garbage drugs? Well mind control has no side effects from what i've seen. I dont think the soul stop gaining, in fact it could be used for speeding up soulular progression possibly, it seems to have grown my soul a lot to go through heaven and hell, what I term yihn yang intensified.

I certainly do not blame you for interpreting this very sociopathic screwed up world as a universal truth that physical incarnations are prisons universe wide(if i;'m interpreting that right). However, I think that is an MK thought. The deeper I have delved into your reality, the more I think it's MK honestly. Either way you have my full respect and see you as a brother in ways. you definitely have figured out a lot I agree with, and your explanation of souls is fantastic even if not true. I'd like your permission to take what you said about it, and possibly add my own theories to it(if even needed, possibly just further explain it more in depth, as to whats possible, for my own websites. I would not be presenting it as a fact, and I would reference where I got it from on my own sites(but with all due respect, a disclaimer that I do not endorse your full version of reality)..

jeeeeeez. what a long post. lol. Thanks again for existing here and being involved in this stimulating conversation. However I cannot guarantee I will have the energy to reply if you make your reply much bigger than my response, as is the pattern if we isolate segments and write very complex thoughts about it. ALthough that is possible too. But this really was taxing on me as I have been up 4 days with 1 sleep...... Do you get sleep deprivation? They do it to literally almost all government MK targets. I could list many signs of what I'm dealing with, and see if its the same as you. However it might not be comfortable for you if your reality is dislodged and you figure them out(if you are an MK target, like me). I almost would rather you didn't in some ways. But the truth is important. Anyway, after this convo, people will have a lot to ponder I think. I think this interaction has contributed to this forum a good bit.

And I hope you do not interpret my analysis of your situation negatively. However I would practically fall out of my chair if you considered what I say given your self assurance. WHich I do not diss but will note when I find it flawed out of respect and thoroughness for this forum and everyone reading as well as yourself.