Clue #138 - HansoExposed.com Update

If you log in to hansoexposed.com, you'll see a blinking star next to the "Send Sequence" button. Press the "star button" to listen to 4 minutes, 13 seconds of Morse Code. According to PeaceandNamaste and mamomk in our comments, translating this gives us us "M--I wish it were that simple. Fact is, as much as I want to, I still can't trust you. I want to believe you are the man who helped me in Paris but "de Zylva's" name was not unknown. You could be Mittlewerk himself, springing a trap under my feet. I need confirmation it's you. I need you to tell me something only you could know."

Thanks to makomk, Maven, RyanDrumz, and PeaceandNamaste for emailing us about this clue.

Oh hey guys remember in the Rachel video where she gets shot at? Malek saves her then they run down into a car park or something and she uses the camera in her glasses (roflolmao).. Before she turned her other camera off he said something like "turn it off unless you want them to know who you really are"... Perhaps he'll tell her so she knows it's him! That would be cool :)

Minor thing - the message actually starts with "M --" (one of the other people who translated it included this, and then I looked at the waveforms to check). Apparently you can represent a dash in Morse code, though not all the charts seem to list it.

"i thought you might be suspicious. but would anyone else know you like pina coladas....and getting caught in the rain? and who else would know you like makin love at midnight, by the dunes on the cape?"

Yeah, we better not get some Casablanca type romance subplot either.. That would really make me mad. I mean, half of us are only following along with this game just incase there's a chance we might score with Rachel at the end..

Peaceandnamaste-I really like the idea that maybe Malek will give us that missing info. about Rachel as proof. I HOPE some answers to our questions are coming soon!Also, thanks to everyone who worked on this, I am in the same boat as dazzedelf, and can't participate at work really except at lunch:(.

Lost's Numbers Finally Add Up ABC's online Lost supplement, the Lost Experience, delivered a major payoff on September 8th. An unlocked video detailed how a mathematician was commisionned by the United Nations in 1962 to calculate the timetable for humanity's extinction. The resulting Valenzetti's Equation was based on factors represented by Egyptian Hieroglyphics, each of which was assigned a numerical value: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42, aka what would become Hurley's cursed digits. Though the Hanso Foundation created the Dharma Inititiave to stave off the forecast apocalypse, the foundation's impatient acting president Dr. Thomas Mittlewerk is itching to unleash a virus that will snub 30 percent of the world's population. Fans who followed the Experience may someday experience deja vu when watching LOST on TV. Says Michael Benson, senior vice president of marketing for ABC: "There's no reason [the Experience's events] can't be integrated into the program." - Reported by Matt Webb Mitovich

Hmm... This is the first time i've heard of the Valenzetti Equation being based on Egyptian hieroglyphics.. But it makes sense, considering we've seen them in the show and in TLE. I wonder where this person got their info, though..

Also, I know everyone is probably bored of hearing me say this by now, but i'd love it so much if TLE was tied into the show by more than just Hanso and DHARMA.

"i thought you might be suspicious. but would anyone else know you like pina coladas....and getting caught in the rain? and who else would know you like makin love at midnight, by the dunes on the cape?"

the hieroglyphs were tied to the equation when rachel talked to the director of the vik institute. it was speculated on here that the hieroglyphs were used as representations of portions of the full equation.

tell you what, getting punk'd or x'd is still better than getting 'merked' by rio ferdinand. anyway, my point was going to be, surely they glyph pictures do mean something, although I am definately not clever enough to figure out what. Get on it clever people!

Re: YesterdayFrankly, I was a little surprised at the intensity of responses to the DJ Dan thing. Remember though that it was a very small minority that took it too far. Most people just took it for what it was and moved on. :)

Wed: RB - "Sup?"Thur: M - "Of all the pages, in all the websites, you had to leave your message here?"Fri: RB - "...."Sat: M - "Play it again, Sam"Sun: RB - "What are you talking about!? LOL"Mon: M - "You played it for her, you can play it for me!"Tue: RB - "Look, just meet me in Norway, ok? We can talk more then..."Wed: M - "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow..."Thur: RB - "Well duh, I have to book the flight and stuff.. "Fri: M - "Here's looking at you, kid."Sat: RB - "Loser."

Thanks for that comparison, peaceandnamaste. There's definitely been alot of speculation about the actual glyphs...even what the borders mean! And what about those word clues? "Narvik" seems to be panning out to something.

heck yeah!! I've been reading the comments on 'other' blogs about TLE, and I was shocked at the amount of arguing, abuse, and just general spam.... People seem intent on just posting gibberish and stuff... I love you TLEC lol

regarding the glypths. the counter in the hatch when reached 000.00 the counter turns red (as we all know) and hieroglyphs pop up in there place. it means cause to die so its possible that the glyph images could have a message also. its just in which order they go. the order they where released or the order of the video sequence

goingdark: I think the producers stated that those glyphs meant "underworld" instead of what we translated it as (cause to die). I believe that came out at ComicCon (correct me if I'm wrong about that). There was a lot of discussion as to what THAT meant....hades, hell...or that umderwater hatch that seems to be hinted at in the promos.

Glyphs:The glyphs appear to be made in a combination of languages/scripts. As was already noted, there are some Egyptian heiroglyphs, there are also some Cunieform. Check this site for all sorts of different scripts (you'll see the some glyph-like symbols is most of these). Link

I wonder if they just randomly grabbed some glyph-looking sybols or if they actually mean something. Happy hunting!

Those promos look really impressive, and now I see why everyone is talking about there being an underwater hatch in S3, it definately looks like it.. Even at the end of the trailers where it just says 'LOST', the word is out to sea and it looks like we're looking at it from inside some kind of cave on the coast of the island.. Then there's the scene where Jack opens the hatch and all the water floods in, and there were a few other moments when you saw somebody splashing around underwater..

I can't wait until Season 3 now, I wonder when it's going to be aired in the UK?

Vitruvian man, thanks for the links! I would like to think that the glyphs mean something, but your assumption that they just snatched a load of random symbols is probably more accurate.. I wonder if somebody has compiled a list of the meanings of all of the glyphs yet?

1. Why wouldn't they actually mean something? Sure, Rachel may have simply needed a way to package her codes in a way that would be recognizable, but why would she choose to attach "language" to the codes unless she was trying to communicate something extra. I have had a sneaking suspicion that there is something more to the glyphs.

2. I have been thinking that seeking a message in the glyphs was "someone else's" job and have been too lazy to do any actual research regarding the meanings of individual characters. Sounds like Vitruvian Man has gotten us off to a good start...has anybody REALLY looked into each individual character and tried to piece anything together? Sounds like a job for the Research Bloggers :)

admin, I know the feelings.. I'm always happy to read through pages and pages of comments, try and decode hidden messages and morse code, and spend ages reading through all the information on LOST and TLE that I can find.. but when it comes to things like compiling huge pages full of information on each and every glyph, well, like you said, that's "someone else's" job *cough*Lostpedia*cough* :P

RE: Glyphs comments...I thought that a LONG time ago...I tried compiling the glyohs on my blog and was trying to find someone smarter than I to research them...it never took off. No one seemed to agree that it was worth a look.

Good luck on this one, I hope it gets posted here if someone sees something from them!

Hi everybody! Just a quick fly by...on a business trip in North Carolina today. Sorry I wasn't around to summarize today's clue, but I see that admin and peaceandnamaste were able to take care of that.

Honestly when a girl says, "I want to believe you're the man who helped me...springing a trap....tell me something..."

What she's really asking: Does this Norwegian disguise make me look fat?

I'm still here lurking, but have been workin' too hard on a project to engage much in the discussions today... just wanted to let you know you're crackin' me up here :)... Glad everyone's in such a good mood today!

It's my Friday today at work, and tomorrow I'm going out of town... to Vegas... this time, I'm REALLY hoping I don't come back, but we'll see... won't be back until Monday...

Well all, it has been a fun filled week, but today is my Friday also. I am off work the next 2 days and then in training Monday through Wednesday. Will try to check in every once in a while, but won't officially be on till Thursday next week. Happy clue hunting!

This may have already been discussed before, but has anyone tried to decrypt the complete sequence of characters produced by the "solved" video? I mean, trying to translate meaning out of the glyphs is one thing, but doesn't it make more sense to embed a scrambled message in the actual "text" of the fragments?

ccs, i've seen people mention it. It's a possibility that the glyph codes mean something, but the fact that some of them are entire words (Chocolate, Vaccine, etc) may say otherwise.. Also come of the glyphs don't even have symbols on, so i'm not sure if they would mean anything either.. It's worth looking into though..

lostpedia, what exactly are you bored with? I dunno, I prefer this part of the game way more than the glyph hunt.. To me that part was boring, and only certain groups of people could participate.. Plus it took ages and the story didn't progress at all. At least this way we can all get involved and we actually have a storyline unfolding in front of us.. :)

The ARG Monitor watches a list of sites that are "in-game" and tells when any changes have been made. I included a link to the ARG Monitor in my post on the front page today, but now that I look, it appears that one of the other admins removed it.

looks like both of you beat me to it.... I should add that those sites I listed WILL show up on the ARG monitor, but not automatically... they have to manually be added... but it should still be in everyone's list o' sites...

belly,My bad. I actually think that I thought you accidentally posted a bad link. I couldn't figure out what you were trying to do so I removed it. There was some confusion b/c I came in from lunch midpost and didn't realize that you'd already started it. I was too busy digesting my Muchaco!

engineer27,:)I would love to do a podcast but I'm doing a poor job managing my pace of life right now and I've got a lot of "real world" investments I making with my time and energy that are keeping me more busy than I'd like to be. My job involves a lot of "people care" and so some seasons are just more full than others. We had some extra help during the summer but now the workload has really picked back up.

I promise we're not finished but I can't figure out WHEN we'll be back. I'm so sorry to let people down. :(

Belly, yeah you're right, often the site monitor updates long after we've found and solved the clue.. but occasionally it's really helpful, the last few clues wouldn't have been found so quickly if it wasn't for the monitor :)

Edit: Oooooh yeah a TLEC podcast would be pretty good right about now.. The games starting to get back in full swing (or at least alot better than it's been during the whole glyph hunt), and we've found out alot of new information that may have even answered some of the questions in the last podcast... How about it Admin? :P

You're doing great, Admin. We know you love us! :-D Let us know if we can be of any assitance. Spoof e-mails between Malek and Rachel would be funny like the ones FYSB did last post. Or we could send you what we want DJ Dan to talk about.

Admin, okay then ignore my last post.. lol, I think we all understand.. I only joined TLEC during the glyph hunt but read back right from the beginning, and i'm pretty sure you had alot of people helping you with the first few podcasts.. Now there aren't so many and your workload is picking up then it's understandable if you can't release a podcast every few weeks. But if you ever get the chance i'm sure i'm not the only person who'd love to hear it :)

Today was a goofy day, huh? I liked it. Much better than the holy wars that we had yesterday :)

Back to business though...is anyone going to step up and take the reigns on the glyph/code projects? We've got to know definitively if anything is there. I'll do some research to see what has already been done but I'm afraid I don't have the passion or the know how to really tackle it.

I'm about to head out the door but I'll check in later to see if anybody is going to take the ball and run with it.

"but I'm afraid I don't have the passion or the know how to really tackle it"

Yeah i'm in the same boat.. It's a big task, and although i'd really love to I don't really have any knowledge of hieroglyphs or any other codes.. With starting a new college this week I don't want to take on any big tasks right now either, but if somebody wants to give it a shot i'd be willing to help as much as I can :)

Well, I'll definetly be your co-host again if needed...Just let me know anytime and I'm down fo sho. Later Admin...Glyph Project, I can't even look at those things anymore...gives me the chilly willies...LOL

Well, hopefully we won't have like 8 yy old kids calling in to DJ Dan like last time asking stupid questions.But, even when a good question was asked, all he did was turn the question around on you saying "Well, what do you think...blah,blah,blah" and then he would make fun of you and SHUTDOWN!!!It will be hard, but the questions need to be real good. And if anybody call and tries that on you...Say "DJ Dan, I asked YOU the question and I want YOUR opinion"Just my $0.02

Meni has, in this case, also been translated as: 'God of Destiny' and 'God of Fate' or simply 'Destiny' or 'Fate'.

follow the Min link above to this one at Min bottom to read"12. number--"doom" you. Alluding to the "number," as Meni (Isaiah 65:11) means. Retribution in kind, the punishment answering to the sin (compare 2 Chronicles 36:14-17).

"These hieroglyphics have evidently a meaning. If it is a purely arbitrary one, it may be impossible for us to solve it. If, on the other hand, it is systematic, I have no doubt that we shall get to the bottom of it."

Hey, I don't know if anyone's here, or if this has been mentioned - no time to catch up - but ABC showed a preview of the new season tonight. I just watched the drama preview at 9:30 Eastern time. At the end, just before 10, there was a segment on Lost.

***spoiler***

They showed a clip from season 3 with Sawyer in a cage. He pushes a button marked with a knife and fork and gets a warning message. A kid in a different cage (sounded like Sawyer called him Kyle) warns him not to do that, but he pushes it again and is blasted back.

They also played the same spot that I've seen on Youtube, although the earlier spots say "65 days ago. they fell from the sky" and the one tonight said "67 days ago."

Again, sorry if someone already mentioned this. I don't have time to check through the comments, but I wanted the folks on the west coast to catch it if they could.

Twinkle-I just hope DJDan answers our questions a little better, but I have a feeling it might be the same. It seems like TPTB use these call-ins to get an understandig of how the game is going from real people, which is cool. It would be nice for him to get into our questions a little more. We'll just have to see.

RE: This PhaseI think this phase isn't that bad. It sure is cool when we are all trying to decode these messages and I think this will be over by Friday anyways ...We are all just so glyphed out, we need to step back and realize that the game will only get better.

Melissa-That's cool. I saw the promo vids that Ocki and Dixxee posted earlier, but I don't remember any of that. Only the cage part. The kid kyle and the buttton is new I think. Now I need to rewatch them...

I had a look at the Glyphs - Nothing obvious lept out at me, they are certainly not in norse runes, Ogham Script or any of the medival 'magical alphabets' like Malachim. I used to have some books on ancient alphabets but I'm pretty sure I sold them all on eBay. Some of then remind me of (native american) indian pictograms but I'm no expert, one in particular reminded me of the figure of Kokopelli.

With regards the podcast somone a while back suggested we all contributed some audio and did a group TLEC podcast - sounds a good idea to me. I'm happy to have a go at doing a segment - not sure what on but it's worth a shot.

R -- I respect your caution. Suppose it's warranted, after all you've come through. I can't remember it exactly, but I think when we were in the stairwell in Paris, you muted the mic as I said "Because he wanted me to help you, and I can't question a man who would launch the Mental Health Appeal... to save a loved one."

R -- I respect your caution. Suppose it's warranted, after all you've come through. I can't remember it exactly, but I think when we were in the stairwell in Paris, you muted the mic as I said "Because he wanted me to help you, and I can't question a man who would launch the Mental Health Appeal... to save a loved one."

Say what you will about him now, his heart was once in the right place.

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