At age 42, after co-founding one of the world’s largest wireless carriers and taking it public, Augie Fabela enrolled at a police academy. Today, he serves as Chief of Police for the Cook County’s Sheriff Department. Hosts Phil Libin, Jessica Collier, and Blaise Zerega talk with Chief Fabela about using community engagement to reduce gun violence, including an esports project (with involvement from All Turtles). In a “Maybe it’s kinda B.S.” segment, your hosts dissect ID theft protection services.