Mazda Millenia

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I was stuck at DFW airport for several hours this past Fri. evening. Went automobile classifieds hunting and saw several places with Millenias at $19,995. Small print said on most of them 1 @ this price and does not incl. freight. One place in Wash DC area said 2 @ this price. That is like 6K below invoice. What's the catch here? How do we find out what the real incentive is? Cars direct does not currently reflect any rebate. I'm confused.

I found while I was car hunting last August and September, that for some unknown reason the Mazda factory to dealer incentives did not show up on the internet sites.

At the time I got $6500 in rebates plus an additional dealer discount of $1500, all that was showing online was the $2500 customer rebate. The Tampa Tribune has ads showing Millenia for $18995, plus freight and $995 down or trade. I don't know what else might show up at the dealer. But they are also showing $16000 to $17000 Camry's, so something is amiss.

To let you all in on a secret-I am trying to get my wife to trade in her 1994 Toyota Camry for a 2002 Millenia "base" or "s".She is insisting on keeping the car utill it dies,does anyone have a convincing line that I could use on her? As for me I am still waiting around but i have to say,not making a car payment monthly sure makes your bank account bigger.:)

Again I thank you all for the feedbacks,I will have her read all of your responses.

I have to share this with car shopping encounter with you guys.Yesterday I was on Boston Rd. in the Bronx.I stopped by Cox Nissan where there was a sign posted on a 2001 Millenia (BASE MODEL) big sale.Out of curiosity(I never buy cars on Boston Road) I went in to inquire about this big sale on the Millenia.Guess what guys,they wanted $22995.00 for this with 20,000 big ones on the odometer.I told the sales rep.they are nuts,because I can get a brand new spanking Millenia for less than that and on top of that he told me the Camry is worth $1500.00.I quitely walked away,what a rip off that would have been.Thank God for boards like these and the internet.

Anyone had any experience leasing a new Millenia? My present lease expires this November and I'm interested in the Millenia given it's tremendous value pricing.

However, since it will be discontinued I presume the resale situation will be poor thus affecting the residual on a lease significantly. I don't keep cars for long periods so buying would probably hurt me resalewise as well. If anyone has an idea about a monthly lease rate on a P I would appreciate the infomation.

I have had my '01 Millenia for about a month and I am still trying to get used to the way the climate control works.

On cold mornings, it always seems to start with it blowing on my feet and windshield (defog) with the AC on. This strikes me as a little odd, but I suppose I can see that the ac and defog keeps things from fogging, but it blows cold. The cc in my honda products stay off until it warms up on a cold morning and defog has to be selected intentionally.

What do others do with this? I tend to turn off the AC.

Yesterday I was doing some hwy driving and it was in the 50's out and had the CC on 75. The AC insisted on running even though it wasn't needed. Granted it was sunny which will warm up a car, but fresh air was fine.

I was considering other cars, Acura TL - very nice but no wow factor, Subara WRX - plenty of wow, not enough room, G-35, plenty of wow and plenty of money and then I heard about the disounting of the Millenia. About 6 weeks ago the Mazda dealership advertised a P for @$20,400. When I contacted the dealer this week by email asking about the S pricing they stated that they are running $7500.00 off of MSRP. A hefty discount but at $24,500.00 it is still not enough of an incentive to get me into one. If I could get down around $20,000.00 for an S I would consider that hard to pass up. Has anyone heard of a better deal on current S pricing?

You can select any mode you want manually. It only acts the way you suggest in Automatic mode. At 55 degrees it is not running AC, it is bringing in cool outdoor air, unless you manually press the recirculation button, or it is in defrost mode.

Almost all automatic climate control systems turn on the AC in defrost mode, as it is proven to remove the fog on the windshield much quicker. Hot air generally makes things worse on a cold windshield.

At any rate, just select the mode and temperature you want manually if the Auto mode is not your cup of tea.

"Could anyone give me the exact RPM at 70 mph on their 4-speed automatic transmission w/2.5 engine and as to what kind of mpg they are getting on the same trans?"

You had asked that before, so yesterday I set it right on 70mph. It turns 2800 rpm at 70. I average 27 mpg highway, 20 city, and 22.2 overall on 87 octane fuel, and I use whatever brand is handy. I now have 4989 miles on the car.

I have a 2000 s model with 25000 miles. I am kind of wondering about this car so far I had the compressor replaced, the fuel gauge and now I have a motor hesitation cold start or warm start going about 30-45 cruising speed not in no hurry and it acts like it is getting no gas. It goes to the dealer tomorrow but I (they) could use the input. I would like to buy a new s model for 20000 also I paid 23,300 for mine brand new on the s plan got everything but the chrome wheels. btw i thought it was the gas but is not I use only premium.

At the local dealership I just saw 2 special editions of the 2002 Millenia. The first was an S model. On the window sticker is was listed as an SS. It is black with special titanium wheels, two-tone beige and black leather interior and titanium accents to replace the faux wood. Then...they have a Millenia P special edition labeled PS, same as above except without the S engine. Looks identical, same wheels, interior, etc. They look sharp. About $1000 premium. The P model gets my attention since it has the same wheels as the S, so you get the improved handling dynamics without the cost of the S engine. Anyone know more about these?

My guess is that they are dealer customs. I haven't seen them anywhere, and with Millenia's slow sales, I doubt Mazda is doing this at the factory. But as a $1000 add on package, and assuming you can still get the huge discounts available on Millenias, it is a very tempting deal to have a very unique and beautiful car. I don't see how they could do those changes for that amount though.

Quote kcm8419: "On the Special Edition it is from the factory, go look at the Mazdausa site they have it listed there."

I checked mazdausa.com, and you are correct. I am just a little surprised that they are producing a Special Edition at this late date. It sounds like a beauty for someone who will do the upkeep a black car requires, although I prefer wood to titanium. Of course that's only a personal preference.

I was wondering if any of you thought that you could work a really good deal on the special edition P model like you can on the other P models. Since the package I heard was a $1000 more, I figure that you could work a deal to get it at around 22000-23000 before TT&L. Also it seems like on this board and if this board is indicative of US purchasing of millenias, then does anybody buy the '01-'02 S millenia. Because I think that an S for 23,500 wouldn't be an unreasonable request given its lack of popularity due to the better value of the P. Any input would be nice.

I think with a little persuading you can get a similar deal on a P SE as on any other P. Of course it will probably be a thousand higher, or around $22500 to $23000. But the best I have seen anyone do on the S, is about $2000 or so above the P. Good luck, anything is worth a try.

Nate, what do you want to know about the door panel removal. I've removed it so many times now; very easy task to do. there're two screws inside the door pockets that you have to removed (take out the cover first). One screw near the hinges, with round cover. I think that's it, then pull out the bottom part first, then work your way to the side. when all plugs (i don't know what you call those things that's holding the door) are pulled, then to take the door panel out, push it up slowly. then take off all the connector for power windows, door locks, etc. Just remember than when you want to put the door back, it's a lot easier to do it with the window down.

I bought my '02 S at just under $25,000 in Feb. Something that you may want to look at is the date the car was made. Check on the inside of the drivers door jamb for this date, it will give you the month and year. This will give you an idea of how long the dealer has had the car sitting on their lot. If they have had it on their lot for awhile it could work in your favor for getting a better deal. The only draw back is in the special edtion, since it is in limited numbers will mostly likely hurt you a bit.

You folk are driving one of the most beautiful cars on the road. I love my Maxima but I have always liked the Millennia as well. It is a shame Mazda was able to design a car with a look that never looks outdated, but feature wise is behind the competition. Did any of you consider the Maxima before buying the Millennia? Why did you choose the Millennia over the Max?