Friday, February 22, 2008

OBAMA IN TEXAS DEBATE: LIAR, DUPE, OR ENEMY-PROPAGANDIST

*******UPDATE: ABC and Yglesias and Obama are attempting a push-back, but they fail. ALSO SEE: JAWA and ALLAHP and ACE and THE CORNER for refutations of these attempts.

MY CONCLUSION: OBAMA IS A NOT A DUPE; HE IS A LIAR DOING ENEMY PROPAGANDA.

WHY!? HERE'S ONE SIMPLE REASON:

HE DELIBERATELY TWISTED THE STORY THE CAPTAIN TOLD HIM (BECAUSE USING CAPTURED ENEMY WEAPONS WAS INCIDENTAL AND COMMON) AND DELIBERATELY FRAMED IT AS IF IT WAS RECENT WHEN IN FACT THE CAPTAIN'S OWN VERSION WAS IN 2004 AND BEFORE THE LAST ELECTION.

OBAMA MIGHT AS WELL BE TALKING ABOUT D-DAY'S MASSIVE ERRORS AND SMEARING IKE.

... WOW!... Obama claims US soldiers in Afghanistan are capturing Taliban weapons because this was easier than getting weapons from the government.You've got to be kidding?

He must think US soldiers are all Rambo's-- wrestling weapons out of the hands of the Islamists!Here's the nutty video:

Obama said what?

OBAMA: You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon -- supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq.

And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition, they didn't have enough humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.

HERE'S THE VIDEO:

ANSWER FROM AMY PROCTOR, A COMMENTER AT GATEWAY:

Amy Proctor said...

Gateway, I was STUNNED by this statement. I'm trying to contact the Operation Enduring Freedom commander to get clarification on this. My hubby is active duty and just coming back from Iraq this weekend and I can GUARANTEE Barack is full of IT on this one. The U.S. Army is not under-supplied nor would a U.S. solder EVER use a substandard Taliban weapon. What an assinine thing to say. I cannot believe Barack actually let those words out of his mouth. 8:42 PM Blogger Gateway Pundit said...

1. CPT’s command companies, not platoons. 2. Platoons are not divided up to go to 2 different theaters, EVER. 3. There is no ammo shortage in OEF (Operation Enduring Freedom-Afghanistan). Many platoons are deployed to remote sites in the mountains and require aerial resupply. Those resupply missions are dependent on favorable weather conditions. 4. Taliban weapons are usually not very good and we would not use them without a very high level of command approval. 5. The CDR in Chief is so high above the platoon level that comment doesn’t even deserve a response.

He’s just trying to exploit democratic boilerplate about OIF being a diversion from “the good war” (OEF). He’s wrong on many levels. We are winning in OIF. I just left Baghdad. We have everything we need except for our OWN government to be united behind victory in OIF (Operation Iraqi Freedom). 11:32 PM

OBAMA EITHER LIED, OR IS "BONEHEADEDLY" (TO USE HIS WORD) REPEATING LEFT-WING AND ENEMY PROPAGANDA.

THIS COMMENT PROVES OBAMA IS UNFIT TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

WILL THE MSM POINT OUT THE IDIOCY AND INCORRECTNESS OF OBAMA'S COMMENT? NO EFFIN' WAY.

If Hillary Clinton really wanted this nomination, she and her people would go over Steven Spruiell's fact-gathering on Obama's tale of American soldiers in Afghanistan having to steal the Taliban's ammunition, and call BS on Obama's statement at the debate.

UPDATE: Jake Tapper talks to Obama's military source, who does not wish to be identified, and concludes that it checks out. Note Obama's statement:

"You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon," he said. "Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq. And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition, they didn't have enough humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief."

I think Tapper's being a bit generous, as the officer says they never had an issue getting ammunition for their standard rifles, but for heavier weapons, the "40 mm automatic grenade launcher ammunition for the MK-19, and ammunition for the .50 caliber M-2 machine gun ("50 cal.")" I think the Obama statement makes it sound as if the soldiers were motivated to raid the Taliban to get their weapons, which the officer says was not the case.

38 comments:

Don't let the facts get in the way of the truth Rape-Public-Cans. Because the truth hurts. Now go on and swift boat this hero. The story has been fact checked and Obama was right. The Captain in question was a Lieutenant at the time. I quote:

"Prior to deployment the Captain -- then a Lieutenant -- took command of a rifle platoon at Fort Drum. When he took command, the platoon had 39 members, but -- in ones and twos -- 15 members of the platoon were re-assigned to other units. He knows of 10 of those 15 for sure who went to Iraq, and he suspects the other five did as well."

check out the link yourself. and pull your heads out of your asses: You loser pukes are such a joke. It is cute how you play along as if you had a prayer of winning 08. See there is a price to pay when you support, enable, and excuse a dry drunk AWOL failure. GOP is DEAD.

i too make judgments on truth based on what I hope is true. and i too attempt to discredit those who present views that contradict my pre-existing worldviews. it helps me feel secure. oh, and here's the proof that I'm right: "the pentagon refutes this."

You guys should get real jobs instead playing pundits online. The ABC fact check proves the fact mentioned in the debate yesterday. Especially you Amy! The information was about Afghanistan and not Iraq. Your husband has more guts than you. He stands for his words fighting in Iraq. I thank him for his service to this country.

Not sure why a presidential candidate noting by anecdote that our military is way over-stretched is such a big deal. Bush said the same thing when he was running against Gore. What is important is that even with a military budget that is larger than all other countries combined, the U.S. military is still overstretched and overcommitted; and this puts soldiers at risk of their lives due to equipment shortages and inadequacies.

Since when has it been Taliban propaganda to falsely claim that the US military has been capturing and using their weapons against them? Any links or actual proof that you could provide to support this wacky (even for you) claim would be handy.

When you decide to get egg on your face, you sure do go all out!

Please keep posting more of this American left = fifth column nonsense. It's been working wonders for the popularity of the American right wing.

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