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So I guess the next episode is flash back. Then the 21st episode is about how Shu invade the HQ, Final episode will be Shu vs Gai and how it end. But what about the 2nd Void user? That guy's just... too random...

So I guess the next episode is flash back. Then the 21st episode is about how Shu invade the HQ, Final episode will be Shu vs Gai and how it end. But what about the 2nd Void user? That guy's just... too random...

His story will probably be explained in Visual Novel. However as its prequel then it will only explain who and what he is. Or maybe not who knows, we can get some epilogue with him talking about voids and their power. Then he gets into his alien ship and leave earth with all the voids power, saying that earth isn't ready for ascension into higher beings.

The one who having sex is Shuu's father and mother. The baby is Shu. I think?
Anyway, so Shu will be a test experiment by his father. I guess.. Which explains why there is a magnificent light that is produced when Shuu acquire the Void Genome..So Shu's gene is special after all.. His destiny is described by his genes which results a King's Arm Void

Spoiler for preview:

Makes sense. He was doing his wife when the meteor fell? What are the chances an alien meteor lands on the property of a scientist while he is conceiving a kid?

Did he take the rock home and get his wife infected?

Shu was in the womb of a woman with the apocalypse virus, which would explain why he is supposed to have super powers.

somehow i feel in the end they will pull a twist like gai, inori and mugi son/relative surprise sacrifice and become good guys in the end of the series.

Scarface is so FABULOUS this ep. May be the best antagonist of the year i dare say.

btw i just remember something about the OP

Spoiler for Specular about OP:

Remember the black ground then sudden light open up and the heroine wake up in the middle of a flowerbed? It is so similar to Final Fantasy VIII ending. OMG i should have know it before. Shu death was 100% confirmed even before ep 19

Pretty spectacular rebirth for Shu, complete with his new crystal arm. Shame such power also comes with hefty drawbacks, but dealing with Apocalypse cancer is when Inori can also shine so maybe not everything is lost yet.

For next week, one thing I didn't like is having another flashback episode at this point of the story, with only three episodes remaining. Sure, more info about the past is always nice but I want Shu to go all out and rescue Inori already.

Makes sense. He was doing his wife when the meteor fell? What are the chances an alien meteor lands on the property of a scientist while he is conceiving a kid?

Did he take the rock home and get his wife infected?

Shu was in the womb of a woman with the apocalypse virus, which would explain why he is supposed to have super powers.

I knew something like this was behind Shu's "importance."

Spoiler for Theory:

Probably the flasbacks is on a long time period. So here is my theory..

1. Kurosu and his lover was on research. Well they developed feelings toward each other and they had a baby.

2. Then the meteor landed!! Alien invasion!!

3. Unfortunately it infected shuu's mother and she's dead.

4. Kurosu then try to do experiment with his son to find the cure because of this tragedy. So he modified his son's gene.. Probably the Void Genome may come from Shu's gene itself, which explains the burst of light when he acquire the Power of the Kings (while in case of Gai, it doesn't happen)

However, this theory will create some paradox. While we all know that Mana is the first patient who got infected, the timeline would be ruined. In the end, I'm confused.. bah.. haha.. I think it's better to wait for the explanation. My life is complicated already... exams.. exams.. and exams.. oh why..

Probably the flasbacks is on a long time period. So here is my theory..

1. Kurosu and his lover was on research. Well they developed feelings toward each other and they had a baby.

2. Then the meteor landed!! Alien invasion!!

3. Unfortunately it infected shuu's mother and she's dead.

4. Kurosu then try to do experiment with his son to find the cure because of this tragedy. So he modified his son's gene.. Probably the Void Genome may come from Shu's gene itself, which explains the burst of light when he acquire the Power of the Kings (while in case of Gai, it doesn't happen)

However, this theory will create some paradox. While we all know that Mana is the first patient who got infected, the timeline would be ruined. In the end, I'm confused.. bah.. haha.. I think it's better to wait for the explanation. My life is complicated already... exams.. exams.. and exams.. oh why..

Spoiler for theory:

He's having sex with his wife the night Shu is conceived. That same night, a meteor crashes into the Island they live. They get up, run to where the rock landed. It landed on someones house.

Family is dead except for a little girl. She is rushed to research hospital when K. Ouma works. She's in a coma. She has those weird lesions. They go away after a while.

Wife is infected with apocalypse virus when she carried girl to car and picks up meteor fragment.

K. Ouma's wife dies after giving birth.

Shu and Mana both infected by meteor.

K. Ouma vows to find out what the rock is and to find a cure for the alien disease that killed his wife. K. Ouma's boss works for the government and lets him pursue his work. He meets and befriends Haruka who is much younger than him.

or

Meteor lands. Kills a family except for Mana. K. Ouma and his wife work together. They are sent to investigate the accident the morning after they conceive Shu. Shu's mom picks up meteor and gets infected. Shu is mutated in the womb. Mana becomes host to alien parasite.

Whether it happens or not it wouldn't surprise me if Shou bought the farm in the end. He's been the show's punching bag after all. Although like others pointed, it'll probably be Inori who cancels that payment for the farm...

So it's the return of the best song in anime this year and also the best Guilty Crown episode since forever.

A few thoughts

Spoiler for spoiler:

So Shuu is FINALLY badass and it doesn't disappoint one bit. If there's a complaint, it's that this development didn't occur earlier in the series as we only have 3 episodes left with cool/badass Shuu. This development is roughly 13 episodes too late (since the beginning of the second half). Further, as someone said earlier, Scarface is great. He really reminds of the similarly psychotic and unpredictable Joker. If anything, he's too good of a villian for a series as poorly executed as Guilty Crown.

I'm getting a feeling that both Arisa and Souta are going to survive in the end. After the Gai fight everyone will just 'Oh thank you Shu!' without even feeling sorry. That's what I get from this episode. When Arisa found out what is Gai's motive she's going to be repent suddenly and take up the Kuhoin family again.

As the next episode is about flashback they better explain why Haruka is doing all those evil things during that school arc. Love how Shu completely ignores everyone else except Ayase and Haruka. At least he knows who's the person who always support him (even Haruka in her nonsensical way about the burden of the king).

First of all shu won't die - foreshadowed in ep.
As for his Void hand and void database- it was already discussed and pointed out by many members in previous threads.

Shu also is Kurosu son, Mana is Haruka daughter.

Mana is older than Shu (unless they retcon that), Kurosu married Haruka while Shu was around 3-6 or so, Mana needs to be someone else child not blood related to Shu or Kurosu.
More on that in the ep 20 preview and spoiler thread.
Mana was infected by void virus, most likely she was tested in the lab while Haruka was goody goody with Shu. (in Triton story ep you see Mana getting many tests while she had cancer on her face)

How did you get these stuff? Have all these information been revealed already? If so, then I probably should have paid more attention to the show.

Eh~ Scarface just died?
So what was the point of him anyways? Just so there can be a crazy character in the anime? I just can't see the point of him being... him, I guess.
Pity the only decent character in this anime died though... GUTS also died, after all...

Episode content? What content? The space between me and my laptop was more solid.

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Guilty Crown might not always make that much sense, but I have to admit that the kid in me simply loved this episode.

Segai did a great theatrical villain here. Even The Joker would have been proud of Segai's performance here!

And as for Shu's big moment, contrived though it might be, it truly rocked. After watching Segai be a brutal, cocky, merciless, and theatrical villain the entire episode, to have Shu show up to put Segai down once and for all (I think) was pretty rewarding.

I really liked how everything came together in this episode. Lots of great reveals, lots of excellent moments of drama and suspense, lots of great action movie-style magic.

Guilty Crown has its flaws, but man, does it have a sense for dramatic timing and style!

How did you get these stuff? Have all these information been revealed already? If so, then I probably should have paid more attention to the show.

Currently no.. It's an open interpretation. So it's up to you how you can "forecast" the story. The best starting point might be come from little details across the episode.. But the easiest to be found out I think is from the opening song theme (the everlasting guilty crown)..

As I interpret the opening theme like this:

-Inori wakes up.. in a city full of a crystals -> the initial conditions where apocalypse occured

-Inori walks in the class -> Inori's presence change the destiny of whole students in the highschool (as all starts when Shu met Inori)

-Scene where Shu is surrounded by crystals and then Inori come, destroying all crystals -> Shu got the motivation and power from Inori

-The King's Arms -> this episode

-Scene when Inori tried to kiss Shu but suddenly she woke up alone at the flower field -> well this is ur time to interpret this. As for my interpretation, well.. The world is back to normal, to peaceful day.. But as Inori woke up alone, that means.. well.. yeah.. shu's absence..

So we finally find out what Shu's void is. Damn good episode and im glad i was wrong about Haruka dying this episode from the preview. Segai wasn't a bad villian and in the end, he died happy. Shu's fate tho in the end doesn't look good for him. Nice speech he gave to his mom.

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Two episodes ago Shu gets toppled down from his high horse through the rebellion schemed by Alisa's betrayal and the rest of the students' hatred at him for being a tyrant to them. Then, Shu gets his Void Genome and arm literally ripped-off by Gai MK II

The previous episode Shu was wallowing himself in self-pity looking at videos from the past, before everything went fucked up.

Now, this episode Shu steels himself and rises taking the last Void Genome to obtain the Arm Void King, which literally has HAXXed his powers to gather everything around him.

Joker was seriously fucked up, but it's incredible he died a death worthy of his desires.

Spoiler:

I mean how many of you would like to feel be pierced by other peoples' hearts inside you, as a King Void Genome surges through your whole body.

You experience blissdom and euphoria unlike anything feel before, and moments later your DNA helix literally gets cut up like using a scissor to cut a thread, then you instantaneously die just there.

The same I cannot say for the countless of civilians that have been massacred by G.H.Q., the Anti-Bodies, Daath, and those students dying from the Apocalypse virus because their Voids got crushed, or ordinary citizens dying from the Virus, as well as those killed during the First Lost Christmas and the Second Lost Christmas incidents.
BTW, speaking about deaths, Funeral Parlor is quickly running out of members: Argo got shot and hope he doesn't bite the bucket aftewards, Ogumo got done by Joker, and if luck bodes badly likely Shibungi will attempt to fulfill his death wish to kill Gai but failing to do so.
Not mentioning that Gai was resurrected by Daath to be their King.
That points out that only the cute girls of Funeral Parlor might be surviving once this is over.

Spoiler for Haruka:

Shu confirmed to the audience just like he did to Alisa, that he and Haruka are not blood related; same thing that Gai told in the flashbacks back in episode 12.

We know that Shu's his father's child. We know that Gai was adopted by the Ouma family and named first Triton by Mana. We know that Mana was the first infected by the Apocalypse Virus. We know that Inori's a faux body engineered to be Mana's vessel.
We know that possibly Kurosu Ouma and Keido created three Void Genomes, this is speculation from my part.

The thing is a) Haruka never mentions Mana at all when disclosing her family moments she and Shu shared together during his childhood. Prompting the question does Haruka still holds a few more secrets hanging that she doesn't even dare to bring into light for Shuu's sake?
What if Mana, after all, was adopted by Kurosu? What if Mana was actually an artificially engineered body, like Inori, created by Kurousu in complicity with Keido to serve as a receptacle to the virus?
No exact date is ever given as to when Mana first became infected. Also no date is ever given in the anime as to when the meteor, carrying the virus within it, crash landed into the Earth.
We know the exact date of the Lost Christmas outbreak about 10 years before the start of the main storyline.
Mana could have gotten herself infected after she and Shuu found Gai washed ashore, or Mana was already infected when she and Shuu found Gai but, recently, because at the time of first meeting Gai and befriending him she didn't show any apparent first signs of the infection like vestiges of the crystalline cancer sprouting on her skin, or she giving slight indication of going nuts.