Good point John - but then even more of a concern, surely why don't Guests that view, feel they don't want to Join? As you say there are a lot of them?? And joining is no 'only a click away'

You are reading too much into the statistics.

This is a relatively small community with currently only 334 "Active Members".At the moment there are 18 members and 179 "Guests" on line but this is misleading. I frequently visit the site Home Page without logging in just to see if anything interesting is happening (I've done it several times today) and will then appear as a "Guest". I'm sure other members do the same to a greater or lesser extent so you cannot assume that all the "Guests" who visit are people who visit and never join.

There are other members who have specific interests and rarely visit the home page prefering to go straight to the specific board(s) that interest them thereby missing some content. There are also over 60 separate boards on the site so that will spread the active members a bit more thinly too.

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Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

When I post I use the gallery, I log in every day usually via tapatalk.
I usually move on if a photograph is only visable via a link. I do not use any of the photo hosting sites myself and am loath to use or log into them.
The gallery does have its problems but I find it a source were I know all the pictures I have used on this site are stored. A quick run through my albums in the gallery makes it easy to find a shot if I need to use it again. I also have a folder in my libraries with all my sized shots stored if I need them without opening the site.
The number of times I log in run through posts without making comment out weight my log in and make a response times.
I know off late we seem to be having discussions on lots of topics rather than purely camera or photography but I think we all go through this type of pattern.
I visit other sites some I joined and only have commented on a few things on others I visit but have not joined but read a lot. We must have the same.
Only my thoughts.

John, actually until a few months ago I was an avid 'poster' re photos and other stuff - you can check the stats. However following a bit of a few 'messy, comment-wise encounters', I have backed off. So fair comment. BUT I have to say that again issues about participation are being kicked into the long grass.

PS - If Admin feel that I am being irresponsible in my comments then just tell me to bugger off.

Not at all, we are keen to hear different views and by commenting you at least show you care, but if we don't agree with you we will say so. It's a two way street.

I find it impossible to agree or disagree with ISO's comments regarding " participation issues being kicked into the long grass " as I have not the faintest idea what the problem is. Perhaps somebody can enlighten me ?

I find it impossible to agree or disagree with ISO's comments regarding " participation issues being kicked into the long grass " as I have not the faintest idea what the problem is. Perhaps somebody can enlighten me ?

John

John -

Peter - You know, and a lot of other 'non-picture'-contributors know, that
participation is about easily uploading pics to Threads/Comps/Sticky's.

As it stands the 'GUYS WHO KNOW' appear to dominate threads that include picture content. Not their fault. If it was easier, as it should be, and is on other sites, participation and comments would build.

Peter - You know, and a lot of other 'non-picture'-contributors know, that
participation is about easily uploading pics to Threads/Comps/Sticky's.

As it stands the 'GUYS WHO KNOW' appear to dominate threads that include picture content. Not their fault. If it was easier, as it should be, and is on other sites, participation and comments would build.

iso.

I am not a "non-picture contributor" and have no problem whatsoever with easily uploading pictures to threads or anything else and never have done.If you look at my gallery you will see I have uploaded over 1,400 pictures every one of which has been included in a thread and have had to request an increase in my gallery space from Ian on several occasions.

You should not make assumptions about why others do or do not post many pictures at a particular time. For your information (not that it is any of your business) I am now 71 and over the last year or so have become the sole 24/7 carer for both my wife, who has a progressive, painful and increasingly mobility limiting condition and my daughter who has learning disabilities. I now sadly have very few opportunities to actually practice my photography hobby but I do take and post photos when possible and have, if you look "participated" in two Photo Challenges and the PhotoTrail. I do what I can in the circumstances and continue to participate in other areas of the site. My total number of posts is 5,623 and my average daily post rate is still 2.06.

I am sure other members will also have reasons for not posting photos and I don't think you should assume that the fact that you seem to be unable to grasp how to upload photos as easily as you would like is the reason that members do not post as many photos as you think they should. I am reminded of the tag line in Naughty Nigel's signature. "difficult is worth doing".

Ian has explained in another thread the reason that the forum gallery software works as it does and that he is investigating alternatives which may or may not be successful.

Regards.

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Peter

she looked at me and said "It's official. I hate your camera. It's just so amazing and perfect I want one!"

I am not a "non-picture contributor" and have no problem whatsoever with easily uploading pictures to threads or anything else and never have done.If you look at my gallery you will see I have uploaded over 1,400 pictures every one of which has been included in a thread and have had to request an increase in my gallery space from Ian on several occasions.

You should not make assumptions about why others do or do not post many pictures at a particular time. For your information (not that it is any of your business) I am now 71 and over the last year or so have become the sole 24/7 carer for both my wife, who has a progressive, painful and increasingly mobility limiting condition and my daughter who has learning disabilities. I now sadly have very few opportunities to actually practice my photography hobby but I do take and post photos when possible and have, if you look "participated" in two Photo Challenges and the PhotoTrail. I do what I can in the circumstances and continue to participate in other areas of the site. My total number of posts is 5,623 and my average daily post rate is still 2.06.

I am sure other members will also have reasons for not posting photos and I don't think you should assume that the fact that you seem to be unable to grasp how to upload photos as easily as you would like is the reason that members do not post as many photos as you think they should. I am reminded of the tag line in Naughty Nigel's signature. "difficult is worth doing".

Ian has explained in another thread the reason that the forum gallery software works as it does and that he is investigating alternatives which may or may not be successful.

Regards.

Congratulations on one of the most measured, well composed and articulate responses I've read in a long time Peter.

I am not a "non-picture contributor" and have no problem whatsoever with easily uploading pictures to threads or anything else and never have done.If you look at my gallery you will see I have uploaded over 1,400 pictures every one of which has been included in a thread and have had to request an increase in my gallery space from Ian on several occasions.

You should not make assumptions about why others do or do not post many pictures at a particular time. For your information (not that it is any of your business) I am now 71 and over the last year or so have become the sole 24/7 carer for both my wife, who has a progressive, painful and increasingly mobility limiting condition and my daughter who has learning disabilities. I now sadly have very few opportunities to actually practice my photography hobby but I do take and post photos when possible and have, if you look "participated" in two Photo Challenges and the PhotoTrail. I do what I can in the circumstances and continue to participate in other areas of the site. My total number of posts is 5,623 and my average daily post rate is still 2.06.

I am sure other members will also have reasons for not posting photos and I don't think you should assume that the fact that you seem to be unable to grasp how to upload photos as easily as you would like is the reason that members do not post as many photos as you think they should. I am reminded of the tag line in Naughty Nigel's signature. "difficult is worth doing".

Ian has explained in another thread the reason that the forum gallery software works as it does and that he is investigating alternatives which may or may not be successful.

Regards.

Peter has been a very active poster of pictures for many years and has made a huge and positive contribution to the forum. This may not be recognised by more recent members because, like me, Peter suffers from a number of health issues plus the added responsibility of caring for his family who also have serious conditions. Sadly this severely restricts his opportunities to engage in his hobby but he still manages to post pictures from time to time. Peter lives quite close to me and in the past we have enjoyed a number of photo days together, always posting the results on the forum. I miss those days and am sad that they are no longer possible, but I still value Peter's friendship and his support on this forum.

__________________John

"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there — even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

I am not a "non-picture contributor" and have no problem whatsoever with easily uploading pictures to threads or anything else and never have done.If you look at my gallery you will see I have uploaded over 1,400 pictures every one of which has been included in a thread and have had to request an increase in my gallery space from Ian on several occasions.

You should not make assumptions about why others do or do not post many pictures at a particular time. For your information (not that it is any of your business) I am now 71 and over the last year or so have become the sole 24/7 carer for both my wife, who has a progressive, painful and increasingly mobility limiting condition and my daughter who has learning disabilities. I now sadly have very few opportunities to actually practice my photography hobby but I do take and post photos when possible and have, if you look "participated" in two Photo Challenges and the PhotoTrail. I do what I can in the circumstances and continue to participate in other areas of the site. My total number of posts is 5,623 and my average daily post rate is still 2.06.

I am sure other members will also have reasons for not posting photos and I don't think you should assume that the fact that you seem to be unable to grasp how to upload photos as easily as you would like is the reason that members do not post as many photos as you think they should. I am reminded of the tag line in Naughty Nigel's signature. "difficult is worth doing".

Ian has explained in another thread the reason that the forum gallery software works as it does and that he is investigating alternatives which may or may not be successful.

Regards.

Well written Peter. I find I might dip in and out of posting and commenting depending on how busy life is. Working full time and other commitments means sometimes there is not enough hours in the day. Even if I don't always post or comment I do try to look and will join in if something catches my eye. Often I just run out of time. I took some pictures in Bristol a few weeks ago and I should have posted them but didn't and then sometimes I think I have left it too long to put them on.

The system might not be "perfect" (which will be different for everybody) but we are still lucky to have it, and it is better than nothing.

I use an external gallery to host my images (as my gallery space on here has been exhausted) as do others. By using direct linking the images appear whether you are logged in or not. This is possible with Flickr as well as other galleries. Just use the picture icon on your post and paste the direct link in. Google direct linking to find out how easy it could be for you.