You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Humans are DESTROYERS! I am writing this on a destroyed laptop using a destroyed wireless network from a destroyed building that i drove to in my destroyed minivan so i can destroy thoughts and destroy communication.

WTF?

You may not *like* the effects of all the games, nor what people are creating, but we ARE, endlessly, chaotically, independently- creative.

Quoting: not anyone special

I assume he/she was referring to metaphysical creation, like DEMIURGE aliens do. Through their will power and mind manifestation only. Not with mechanical tools and technological devices like we do.

You think a videogame is the pinnacle of creation power??? You're living in a solar system idealized by demiurges eons ago.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

A videogame is the demise of the concept of creationism, anything can be created with no consequence. No laws or matter to prevent other matter from doing things. But we achieve this effect through physical technology, it further serves to distort our natural ability to create. What you don't realize is that regardless of whether we commit a good, bad, or violent act, creation is ALWAYS a by-product of any action performed by a human. This is why you are a god. Far behind others and rightfully so as our leaders keep us from reaching our higher state with the position of our moon. It effects all mood on Earth, from the tiniest speck of what you would consider Earth to be, to effecting the entire atmosphere in one motion.

Quoting: aliensbro

You are talking about karmic creation. That's practiced by every species that have an intellectual mind and therefore manifest some of their will power in the physical world. But we're attached to karma, we can NOT create everything, and most of what we can create is product of egotastical desires. Humans have EGO, they are far from being "gods", despite the fact that we DO have the inherent potential.

The rabbit hole is deeper and darker and I don't share of your romantic vision of mankind.

You draw your conclusions from falacy, and imagination.. Humans are creators. If there weren't something special about humans why would any species/race be interested in our preservation? Our dna contains the ability to go above and beyond out of the physical plane and into the spiritual planes and realms you hear of in myths. Our creators do not have this ability, and this is why we are so valuable to them, and kept under great control. For if we found out our true capabilities our masters would no longer have a hold on us. They splice alien DNA with female neanderthal DNA to make modern humans in their own image, a way to find a loophole if you will. Their DNA is uncapable, ours is capable but unintelligent, so they splice intelligence with capability and create the ultimate species, so that through means of loophole they are able to advance their species into higher planes and dimensional realms. Just my $0.02

Quoting: aliensbro

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Humans are DESTROYERS! I am writing this on a destroyed laptop using a destroyed wireless network from a destroyed building that i drove to in my destroyed minivan so i can destroy thoughts and destroy communication.

WTF?

You may not *like* the effects of all the games, nor what people are creating, but we ARE, endlessly, chaotically, independently- creative.

Quoting: not anyone special

I assume he/she was referring to metaphysical creation, like DEMIURGE aliens do. Through their will power and mind manifestation only. Not with mechanical tools and technological devices like we do.

You think a videogame is the pinnacle of creation power??? You're living in a solar system idealized by demiurges eons ago.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

IN the interest of clarity , I didn't bring up video games. I disagree with your importances as i already stated, but it's your game this life to see things your way.

You draw your conclusions from falacy, and imagination.. Humans are creators. If there weren't something special about humans why would any species/race be interested in our preservation? Our dna contains the ability to go above and beyond out of the physical plane and into the spiritual planes and realms you hear of in myths. Our creators do not have this ability, and this is why we are so valuable to them, and kept under great control. For if we found out our true capabilities our masters would no longer have a hold on us. They splice alien DNA with female neanderthal DNA to make modern humans in their own image, a way to find a loophole if you will. Their DNA is uncapable, ours is capable but unintelligent, so they splice intelligence with capability and create the ultimate species, so that through means of loophole they are able to advance their species into higher planes and dimensional realms. Just my $0.02

Quoting: aliensbro

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Current humans do destroy more than create. I am referring to human potential. Why would an alien race use humans in a war.. The first step in war is to eliminate the use of manned units.. You call me a new ager and then cite karmic unbalance? There are many texts which support what I have said, fallen angels, or however you referred to them, are the nephilim that breeded with earth's women.

Quoting: aliensbro

Why would an alien race use us in their wars?? Are you serious?? Most ancient civilizations have historical accounts of "gods" leading human armies in battles, breeding "demigods" to lead men in wars, providing unknown weapons to specific "heroes" and "champions" to be used against enemies of cities that worshiped them. Ancient Greek texts, Egyptian, Hebrew, Hindu, you name it. All plentiful of accounts of warmonger "gods" puppeteering humans in their war games against other gods, who obviously were aliens.

I called you a new ager because of how you paint a fairy tale relationship between ancient aliens and humans, like we're the pinnacle of their agenda.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

An alien race would have no need to use bi-pedestal biological units in a war. This is what technology is for. Think unmanned drones. You didn't see people using dogs in WWII did you? That doesn't even make sense lmao.. like why? Texts support the existence of weapons said to have been used by gods, this is true. These gods, or demigods, are fallen angels/nephilim. And for them to maintain such a high involvement in our politics and entertainment and music, it's kind of naive for me to believe we're not the pinnacle (or atleast a very important part) in their agenda. What's even funnier beyond what either of us have said, is that either of us believe we have the ability to possess this knowledge in the first place.

Humans are DESTROYERS! I am writing this on a destroyed laptop using a destroyed wireless network from a destroyed building that i drove to in my destroyed minivan so i can destroy thoughts and destroy communication.

WTF?

You may not *like* the effects of all the games, nor what people are creating, but we ARE, endlessly, chaotically, independently- creative.

Quoting: not anyone special

I assume he/she was referring to metaphysical creation, like DEMIURGE aliens do. Through their will power and mind manifestation only. Not with mechanical tools and technological devices like we do.

You think a videogame is the pinnacle of creation power??? You're living in a solar system idealized by demiurges eons ago.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

A videogame is the demise of the concept of creationism, anything can be created with no consequence. No laws or matter to prevent other matter from doing things. But we achieve this effect through physical technology, it further serves to distort our natural ability to create. What you don't realize is that regardless of whether we commit a good, bad, or violent act, creation is ALWAYS a by-product of any action performed by a human. This is why you are a god. Far behind others and rightfully so as our leaders keep us from reaching our higher state with the position of our moon. It effects all mood on Earth, from the tiniest speck of what you would consider Earth to be, to effecting the entire atmosphere in one motion.

Quoting: aliensbro

You are talking about karmic creation. That's practiced by every species that have an intellectual mind and therefore manifest some of their will power in the physical world. But we're attached to karma, we can NOT create everything, and most of what we can create is product of egotastical desires. Humans have EGO, they are far from being "gods", despite the fact that we DO have the inherent potential.

The rabbit hole is deeper and darker and I don't share of your romantic vision of mankind.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Karmic creation, "cannot create everything", "ego", distance from godhood- this is all agreements we made to play some games here on Earth (or in the current reality model, whatever)- they aren't inherent limits on our complete selves.

In fact, it's entirely probably that one of our primary games to play here is finding our way to our full potential.

In a realm that can't manifest physically, such as that contained in a computer simulation, is invaluable because it isn't real. It serves no use to it's user other than to pass time. There is a place for simulations, and a place for mechanical creation. But both would be guidestones on your way to supernatural creation would they not? One would never start as a supernatural creator, and degrade to a mechanical creator, and then a simulator. So the fact that you must work up from mechanical creations and simulations leads me to believe that you are working up to the ability to use supernatural creation. This is one man's opinion based on theory and belief. Obviously you can draw your own conclusions and reflect on life how you wish.

Is there not a very hidden and well-to-do collective mentality within the members of Scientology? I would definitely say that they know something the rest of us non-members don't. However, the boot could well and truly be on the other foot, and maybe it is THEY who have been manipulated by these so called "entities" for purposes unknown and incomplete yet.

From my experience, that is, explaining information from a friends prospective when he got involved with Scientology in the mid 90s, that at the time i will say he was vulnerable and easy to coerce into these kinds of things. The church promised him a good job, a new location in which to live, and even a partner. Sounds too good to be true, right? They convinced him to take a bank loan of nearly 5 grand, which he did even though he lied to the bank about the monies useage. They also tried to convince him to sell his motorbike (which he loved). In the end, his parents became worried and approached the local vicar at the parish church and they then went along to the Scientology recruiting office, explaining how they would get the local news authorities involved unless the money was handed back to my friend.

It's strange, they say there is over 1 billion follows now, but i am yet to meet a Scientologist for a good face-to-face.

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Current humans do destroy more than create. I am referring to human potential. Why would an alien race use humans in a war.. The first step in war is to eliminate the use of manned units.. You call me a new ager and then cite karmic unbalance? There are many texts which support what I have said, fallen angels, or however you referred to them, are the nephilim that breeded with earth's women.

Quoting: aliensbro

Why would an alien race use us in their wars?? Are you serious?? Most ancient civilizations have historical accounts of "gods" leading human armies in battles, breeding "demigods" to lead men in wars, providing unknown weapons to specific "heroes" and "champions" to be used against enemies of cities that worshiped them. Ancient Greek texts, Egyptian, Hebrew, Hindu, you name it. All plentiful of accounts of warmonger "gods" puppeteering humans in their war games against other gods, who obviously were aliens.

I called you a new ager because of how you paint a fairy tale relationship between ancient aliens and humans, like we're the pinnacle of their agenda.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

An alien race would have no need to use bi-pedestal biological units in a war. This is what technology is for. Think unmanned drones. You didn't see people using dogs in WWII did you? That doesn't even make sense lmao.. like why? Texts support the existence of weapons said to have been used by gods, this is true. These gods, or demigods, are fallen angels/nephilim. And for them to maintain such a high involvement in our politics and entertainment and music, it's kind of naive for me to believe we're not the pinnacle (or atleast a very important part) in their agenda. What's even funnier beyond what either of us have said, is that either of us believe we have the ability to possess this knowledge in the first place.

Quoting: aliensbro

I suggest you check your facts carefully before you make a statement. Dogs and other species like dolphins have always been used in modern wars and manipulative alien races have used us in their wars, when they lived on this planet and were worshiped as "gods".

This discussion is useless and tiresome. If your romantic naive vision of the relationship ancient aliens/engineered humans, makes you sleep better at night, go for it. Whatever rocks your boat!

In a realm that can't manifest physically, such as that contained in a computer simulation, is invaluable because it isn't real. It serves no use to it's user other than to pass time. There is a place for simulations, and a place for mechanical creation. But both would be guidestones on your way to supernatural creation would they not? One would never start as a supernatural creator, and degrade to a mechanical creator, and then a simulator. So the fact that you must work up from mechanical creations and simulations leads me to believe that you are working up to the ability to use supernatural creation. This is one man's opinion based on theory and belief. Obviously you can draw your own conclusions and reflect on life how you wish.

Quoting: aliensbro

Depends on your time arrow. Who says we are degraded? it's entirely possible our FUTURE- fully realized selves- created this little creation boot camp game. Time is a funny thing.

But, I still ask you- If you can creat universe rules to play in or video game rules to play in, why is one somehow more "uber" than the other? Why wouldn't we choose to experience all aspects of creative action as we are interested in them at various times in our eternity?

The creation of the Universe playing field is - yes- IMMENSELY more complex than the mechanics of a video game playing field. But, beyond our pure intention-ability -- both are mechanical at some level, philosophical at some level- and both involve the action of spirit/souls.

Oh, awesome! And I am serious. Awesome. I haven't been called Luciferian in ages!

Quoting: not anyone special

Well it really is arrogance. To say one thing is not better than the other you would have to get into why. And for there to be a why you would have to have a use for it, or it wouldn't have been created. This is why some things are better than others. You don't have a use for everything, but the things you do have a use for, are important. A simple example for why mechanical creation is lesser than supernatural creation, would be because without a supernatural creation, there are no mechanisms to be created.

Current humans do destroy more than create. I am referring to human potential. Why would an alien race use humans in a war.. The first step in war is to eliminate the use of manned units.. You call me a new ager and then cite karmic unbalance? There are many texts which support what I have said, fallen angels, or however you referred to them, are the nephilim that breeded with earth's women.

Quoting: aliensbro

Why would an alien race use us in their wars?? Are you serious?? Most ancient civilizations have historical accounts of "gods" leading human armies in battles, breeding "demigods" to lead men in wars, providing unknown weapons to specific "heroes" and "champions" to be used against enemies of cities that worshiped them. Ancient Greek texts, Egyptian, Hebrew, Hindu, you name it. All plentiful of accounts of warmonger "gods" puppeteering humans in their war games against other gods, who obviously were aliens.

I called you a new ager because of how you paint a fairy tale relationship between ancient aliens and humans, like we're the pinnacle of their agenda.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

An alien race would have no need to use bi-pedestal biological units in a war. This is what technology is for. Think unmanned drones. You didn't see people using dogs in WWII did you? That doesn't even make sense lmao.. like why? Texts support the existence of weapons said to have been used by gods, this is true. These gods, or demigods, are fallen angels/nephilim. And for them to maintain such a high involvement in our politics and entertainment and music, it's kind of naive for me to believe we're not the pinnacle (or atleast a very important part) in their agenda. What's even funnier beyond what either of us have said, is that either of us believe we have the ability to possess this knowledge in the first place.

Quoting: aliensbro

I suggest you check your facts carefully before you make a statement. Dogs and other species like dolphins have always been used in modern wars and manipulative alien races have used us in their wars, when they lived on this planet and were worshiped as "gods".

This discussion is useless and tiresome. If your romantic naive vision of the relationship ancient aliens/engineered humans, makes you sleep better at night, go for it. Whatever rocks your boat!

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Now your just grasping at whatever you can to stop your fall from grace. To use a dog to do a small task they wouldn't want to risk a human for, is very different from using humans in an ET war. They have spacecraft to fight with, I doubt an ET war would ever touch ground.. Do you think they arrived here and found the perfect candidate to be used in their wars, or would they have had to manipulate the DNA to work in their favor? The answer is obvious. Go get a squirrel and try to send it into war, tell me how it goes. At this point i'm unconvinced you ever had a point to make, and just wanted others to share the same distorted view as you.

In a realm that can't manifest physically, such as that contained in a computer simulation, is invaluable because it isn't real. It serves no use to it's user other than to pass time. There is a place for simulations, and a place for mechanical creation. But both would be guidestones on your way to supernatural creation would they not? One would never start as a supernatural creator, and degrade to a mechanical creator, and then a simulator. So the fact that you must work up from mechanical creations and simulations leads me to believe that you are working up to the ability to use supernatural creation. This is one man's opinion based on theory and belief. Obviously you can draw your own conclusions and reflect on life how you wish.

Quoting: aliensbro

Depends on your time arrow. Who says we are degraded? it's entirely possible our FUTURE- fully realized selves- created this little creation boot camp game. Time is a funny thing.

But, I still ask you- If you can creat universe rules to play in or video game rules to play in, why is one somehow more "uber" than the other? Why wouldn't we choose to experience all aspects of creative action as we are interested in them at various times in our eternity?

The creation of the Universe playing field is - yes- IMMENSELY more complex than the mechanics of a video game playing field. But, beyond our pure intention-ability -- both are mechanical at some level, philosophical at some level- and both involve the action of spirit/souls.

Quoting: not anyone special

Universal rules effect that which happens in a physically manifestible world, a video game is the use of a physical manifestation (electricity) to create a virtual world of nonphysical manifestation, this is metaphysical. True, beyond pure intention, and ability, both would have to be mechanical at some level, unless the supernatural creator is able to create without a mechanism. This is omnipotence, the ability to create without having been created, and is where I find it hard to grasp any further understanding. If any understanding were to have been had at all.

I suggest you check your facts carefully before you make a statement. Dogs and other species like dolphins have always been used in modern wars and manipulative alien races have used us in their wars, when they lived on this planet and were worshiped as "gods".

This discussion is useless and tiresome. If your romantic naive vision of the relationship ancient aliens/engineered humans, makes you sleep better at night, go for it. Whatever rocks your boat!

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Just saw "Zero Dark 30" - In the raid they had a dog go along. Don't know how factual it is.

Maybe a civilization unintelligent such as ourselves might opt to use a dog for sensitive military operations, but rest assured a race of ET's is not this naive. Intelligent beings realize war can be waged without the loss of life, and won/lost based on who is able to continue providing wartime equipment longer, such as ships or ammunition or whatever.

100% anti-religion is not the way to go, take it from someone who used to be there. I don't know much about scientology but why would these people pay money to be viewed as crazy assholes if not for some greater purpose? Anyone who thinks a computer program runs without an operating system would be considered a fool, and that's exactly how the universe works. No one omnipotent god, we are all gods of our own accord. If we were to create a species, we would be gods to them. Just as the race who created us are considered gods. One must look outside the box of the rosicrucian religions and see the bigger picture. All gods are aliens/other species. We are gods in our own solar system/universe, just not in gods(whoever created us) solar system/universe.

Quoting: aliensbro

Nope, we're more like the scum of the galaxy because Earth is quarantined and there's a legion of ancient fallen aliens imprisoned on this planet. There are OTHER alien races living in the underground of Mars, in the moons of Saturn and probably in undersea bases in the oceans of Neptune.

Earth is monitored 24/7 to prevent that Americans and Russians deploy shit in space that put in risk the balance of the inner system.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

You draw your conclusions from falacy, and imagination.. Humans are creators. If there weren't something special about humans why would any species/race be interested in our preservation? Our dna contains the ability to go above and beyond out of the physical plane and into the spiritual planes and realms you hear of in myths. Our creators do not have this ability, and this is why we are so valuable to them, and kept under great control. For if we found out our true capabilities our masters would no longer have a hold on us. They splice alien DNA with female neanderthal DNA to make modern humans in their own image, a way to find a loophole if you will. Their DNA is uncapable, ours is capable but unintelligent, so they splice intelligence with capability and create the ultimate species, so that through means of loophole they are able to advance their species into higher planes and dimensional realms. Just my $0.02

Quoting: aliensbro

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

And your idea about what we are is just as made up and childish as the person you criticised. At the end of the day there is no evidence to prove what either of you are claiming. These are all just theories that you can't use to trump someone else's theory without good, hard evidence.

When you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all

I state from the start draw your own conclusions it's just my two cents on what I believe given the information available and seen by me as of today. I constantly change and adapt my theories to make room for new understanding of previously unseen forces and unknowns, which exist quite prevalently throughout our solar system, and vastly increase outside of our solar system. We really only have enough knowledge available to us at this time to be able to make an educated guess, and only slightly educated at that.

Though it is of course an evil and destructive organization I cannot help but admire Hubbard for turning the probably most ridiulous idea ever invented into a multi-billion-dollar enterprize based on exploitation of the weak minded simply by writing a book.

This forum is filled with people who have essentially restated the Scientology theory on their own, just using different terms.

This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of being "demonically possessed". This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of being "psychically controlled by evil entities" and "attacked by evil spirits". This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of "doing the work of their alien masters" in all sorts of convoluted cosmic conspiracies.

Hubbard used a less classical form of terminology for these age-old concerns. Lovecraft, Crowley, the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians and other had their own terms for these phenomena and Scientology has theirs.

The difference? Scientology is freakin' richer than some world nations, and thus has the money and the willpower to investigate these phenomena.

I wouldn't automatically embrace all their specific beliefs just on someone's say-so, but neither would I discount anything about their theories either.

This forum is filled with people who have essentially restated the Scientology theory on their own, just using different terms.

This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of being "demonically possessed". This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of being "psychically controlled by evil entities" and "attacked by evil spirits". This forum constantly accuses all sorts of people of "doing the work of their alien masters" in all sorts of convoluted cosmic conspiracies.

Hubbard used a less classical form of terminology for these age-old concerns. Lovecraft, Crowley, the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians and other had their own terms for these phenomena and Scientology has theirs.

The difference? Scientology is freakin' richer than some world nations, and thus has the money and the willpower to investigate these phenomena.

I wouldn't automatically embrace all their specific beliefs just on someone's say-so, but neither would I discount anything about their theories either.

Nope, we're more like the scum of the galaxy because Earth is quarantined and there's a legion of ancient fallen aliens imprisoned on this planet. There are OTHER alien races living in the underground of Mars, in the moons of Saturn and probably in undersea bases in the oceans of Neptune.

Earth is monitored 24/7 to prevent that Americans and Russians deploy shit in space that put in risk the balance of the inner system.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

You draw your conclusions from falacy, and imagination.. Humans are creators. If there weren't something special about humans why would any species/race be interested in our preservation? Our dna contains the ability to go above and beyond out of the physical plane and into the spiritual planes and realms you hear of in myths. Our creators do not have this ability, and this is why we are so valuable to them, and kept under great control. For if we found out our true capabilities our masters would no longer have a hold on us. They splice alien DNA with female neanderthal DNA to make modern humans in their own image, a way to find a loophole if you will. Their DNA is uncapable, ours is capable but unintelligent, so they splice intelligence with capability and create the ultimate species, so that through means of loophole they are able to advance their species into higher planes and dimensional realms. Just my $0.02

Quoting: aliensbro

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

And your idea about what we are is just as made up and childish as the person you criticised. At the end of the day there is no evidence to prove what either of you are claiming. These are all just theories that you can't use to trump someone else's theory without good, hard evidence.

Quoting: Defj@m

So you are saying that I'm childish because I said that we have EGO, and we have KARMA and our actions and limited creativity is attached to it???

Or perhaps you are saying that I'm childish because I said that ancient aliens used us in wars when they lived on this planet as "gods".

Relation EGO/KARMA and the mechanics of it can be verified by everyone in its own life, it doesn't need a scientific journal signed by the Royal Academy of Science to be proven real. Metaphysical experiments can be proven real ONLY by who practiced them.

9 out of 10 ancient civilizations reported the presence of "star gods" in this planet, their affairs, their wars, their passions and their relationship with humans.

There are plenty of evidence to corroborate what's being discussed here, regardless whether you prefer to consider them myths or fantasies.

And I didn't "trump" nobody's theory, he/she was the one who started FIRST claiming I was saying "fallacies", I just responded accordingly.

Not that I owe you any explanations, but just because you didn't learn about something in school, it doesn't mean it's not real.

You draw your conclusions from falacy, and imagination.. Humans are creators. If there weren't something special about humans why would any species/race be interested in our preservation? Our dna contains the ability to go above and beyond out of the physical plane and into the spiritual planes and realms you hear of in myths. Our creators do not have this ability, and this is why we are so valuable to them, and kept under great control. For if we found out our true capabilities our masters would no longer have a hold on us. They splice alien DNA with female neanderthal DNA to make modern humans in their own image, a way to find a loophole if you will. Their DNA is uncapable, ours is capable but unintelligent, so they splice intelligence with capability and create the ultimate species, so that through means of loophole they are able to advance their species into higher planes and dimensional realms. Just my $0.02

Quoting: aliensbro

You're talking about human POTENTIAL, not human REALITY. FACT: Our DNA is locked, jammed and encrypted. We don't know how to unleash metaphysical powers and even if we knew, we wouldn't know how to control it. A very few people in this planet, how to use metaphysical skills and most of them use it for the purposes of the dark cabala.

Humans are not creators. The current human race of Earth is prone to destroy more than create. You sound like a 10 yo kid who listened some CDs of new age lectures.

There are alien races interested in our preservation, because MASS-EXTINCTIONS of intelligent civilizations create karmic unbalance in the entire solar system. Not to mention, THEIR OWN past karma with humans for having used us in their wars, not exactly because they fell in love with us.

Grow up a little bit more and step out of your fairy tale castle before you say that what other people said was "fallacy and imagination."

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

And your idea about what we are is just as made up and childish as the person you criticised. At the end of the day there is no evidence to prove what either of you are claiming. These are all just theories that you can't use to trump someone else's theory without good, hard evidence.

Quoting: Defj@m

So you are saying that I'm childish because I said that we have EGO, and we have KARMA and our actions and limited creativity is attached to it???

Or perhaps you are saying that I'm childish because I said that ancient aliens used us in wars when they lived on this planet as "gods".

Relation EGO/KARMA and the mechanics of it can be verified by everyone in its own life, it doesn't need a scientific journal signed by the Royal Academy of Science to be proven real. Metaphysical experiments can be proven real ONLY by who practiced them.

9 out of 10 ancient civilizations reported the presence of "star gods" in this planet, their affairs, their wars, their passions and their relationship with humans.

There are plenty of evidence to corroborate what's being discussed here, regardless whether you prefer to consider them myths or fantasies.

And I didn't "trump" nobody's theory, he/she was the one who started FIRST claiming I was saying "fallacies", I just responded accordingly.

Not that I owe you any explanations, but just because you didn't learn about something in school, it doesn't mean it's not real.

Quoting: UndercoverAlien

You are citing fallacies as they are not supported in any text in existence. Find me a text that says man waged wars for god. I can find many that support what I have said here. Man waged wars for god.. lmao that just sounds stupid. What use are we to god by your theory? Do we have a purpose or are we a meaningless creation manifesting physically?

Alien1 - yes, humans use dogs for sensitive military operations APPROPRIATE TO THEIR CAPABILITIES. I know some of the vets-- dogs and handlers through my post activities.

Alien2 - is arrogance a "wrong" or a claiming of existence-right? Why is it that me thinking we ain't worms results in a "must make you wrong" defense response?

Alien 1 - Dude. I understand the cool fun of having a heirarchy of lesser and greater creation and assigning value to them. What Iam not getting is what part of your reality tunnel on that requires you to enforce a "must be wrong" on me for having a viewpoint that they are all creations and all of equally lesser or greater importance - depending on individual relationships. (Uh oh, I'm starting to sound like chaon)