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Most of what you have said about the price of oil in comparison with other liquid commodities is not only right & true, it is the same as Mohamad Reza Shah was saying, some 30 years ago for which, HE paid heavy price. He was insisting that the price of oil should be decided on par with other industrial merchandise. Also, HE had pointed out, that oil is a sacred commodity since more than 3000 different by products, including ordinary Aspirin is derived from it, which can not be made any other way when the wells go dry. Therefore 1979 Mullah’s uprising!

But I have to disagree with you concerning the construction of the Trans Iranian Rail Way.

The law to construct that Rail Way was passed in the Iranian National Parliament (Majles Shoraye Meli) in 1305 (1926-27).

At that time there was no name of Hitler or even Nazi Germany. Therefore it is hard to accept your statement that the Trans Iranian Rail Way was constructed to ship arm & armaments to Russia some 17 years later?

If any body could have such far reaching vision, he/she could claim being a prophet, Mohamad, Moses or Josses!? Or at least Nostra Damous?

Also you have correctly exposed the betrayal part of Mossadeh in Nationalization of our oil.

Some time ago I had written a comment about the revenge the Brits are yet taking from the Americans for being kicked out of U.S.A. Therefore I share you evaluation of the peculiar relationship between the two.

It is true that the Yanks did away with the Brits colonial stranglehold, but they could not do away with the ANGLO SAXONS who are ruling America as a subservient to their original British Maters.

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Over a barrel of oil
Oil is not expensive. Water is expensive.

September 30, 2005
iranian.com

Day after day we hear about the diminishing resources of crude oil, the increasing prices at the pumps and the net effect on the economy. When oil prices go up the crystallizing argument and the cause of it always boils down on the greed exhibited by the nations of the world that own the oil but mainly the ones in the so-called “Axis of Evil” namely Iran and Iraq and borderline the not-so-evil Saudi Arabia.

It may not be too far from the fact that the OPEC has been offering the greatest subsidy that man has ever seen in its history and the price that the world pays for the crude oil is far below what it really is worth and its true and intrinsic value should be much higher considering that oil is a diminishing commodity as well as the current data that the alternatives are far more expensive and abstract. Top that with the fact that there are hundreds of by-products that are being produced from a barrel of crude oil that cannot be produced from an alternative energy source.

As we speak, a barrel of crude is hovering around $67 in the open market. We are also hearing that how any increase in the price of crude oil will affect the economy and the average person’s pocketbook. Nonetheless at $67 this price is “dirt-cheap.” The only reason that oil is being offered at such cheap price is because of the corrupt regimes installed in the nations of the west Asia that one of many conditions to keep their crowns or daggers intact would be to give away the oil at a price lower than what water sells in other countries.

In one of his historical speeches in 1979 Khomeini ridiculed former Prime Minister of Iran, Dr. Mossadegh by saying “what do you people mean by saying ‘Mossadegh nationalized the oil’? The oil was belong to the nation to begin with,” This statement really meant far more than what I thought it meant. At that time I thought it only meant as a tool to suppress the feeling of nationalism in Iran which was the top Anglo-American doctrine when they staged the Iranian Revolution, however, today I am hearing what Khomeini really meant –that no matter what format you present it the oil belongs to the ones that control the oil wells and “not” the nations that sit on those wells, considering his alliance with the British and his Anglophil family, the old man said it in so many words based on what he knew first hand.

For so long we thought that the nationalization of oil in Iran was an advantage for the nation (as one would expect it to be) but one should evaluate if oil like other commodities such as pistachios and dried figs was belong to the private sector (such as Rafsanjani’s Mafioso gang) would we have a better pricing power? To prevent ethnic unrest, in the last century the British had to make a decision as in which countries oil industry should be nationalized -such as in Iran, and yet in other cases they invented countries that automatically opened the door for intervention, such as Kuwait, Iraq and Bahrain, etc. To break apart Iran into self-ruling oil regions and call each of them sovereign nations was far more difficult than just giving them the so-called “nationalized” oil industry. Yet in either way, while the British and the west got the oil, the nations that own it have got the shaft!

So, now one would wonder if Dr. Mossadegh’s dreams were fulfilled, or if it was even his idea to begin with? When he nationalized the oil he futilely kicked the British out for a few months only to see them come back and uproot his government. Iran is a net importer of refined oil and today’s Anglo-American alliance wants it to also become a net importer of enriched uranium instead of a producer and exporter! We are going through the same show as we went through in 1950’s; corrupt government, British-supported mullahs, ignorant mass and a weak leader. In comparison Shah in his youth was as weak and helpless as Ahmadinejad is today. So, we are going through a repeat of history and this time uranium is the main commodity of intervention.

To make the issue perhaps a bit more clear, let’s imagine if the nations of west Asia did not own any oil and had to rely on selling and exporting other national products. Selling dates and camel meat, in the case of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait and Iraq, and weaving rugs and selling pistachios in case of Iran and exporting belly dancers in case of Libya. Are you with me so far or did you change the channel? OK good, now start visualizing various groups of nations of the world that would have owned the oil wells and make your interpretation of what if they wanted to sell this precious commodity and how much would they sell it for per barrel?

For example imagine if Israel owned the oil and the Arabs wanted to buy it for their survival! Or if Japanese owned it and the African nations had to rely on Japan for oil. If the British or French owned it what havocs would they bring over the poor nations of the world and how much blood would they ask for and how many virgins in exchange for a barrel of oil? These are important questions that we have to ask ourselves before we blame the greed of the OPEC and or to complain that oil is too expensive. Oil is not expensive. Water is expensive.

To give you several examples on how cheap oil is in today’s market and to compare with some other liquids let’s take a look at the figures in the table below and remember that one barrel holds 5,376 ounces:

As the table shows thanks to their marketing techniques variety of countries export their products at exuberant prices if converted to a “per barrel” valuation for the sake of comparisons. But when it comes to the OPEC, well, corruption, installed governments and lack of a voice has been forcing the member nations to sell one of the most essentials products of the world at a price that ounce by ounce is lower and cheaper than even tap water and yet if they want to import a barrel of Robitussin infant cough suppressant to distribute among their sick children, they will have to pay (and they do) $21,160 per equivalent barrel to the western drug makers, let alone a barrel of Japanese Saki wine which tops the list of non-essential commodities at the top price of $21,235 per barrel, Arrigato Gozaimas!

So, it is not the oil that is shattering the household spending budget as we hear on the news; what the world is ignoring is that oil is being bought and sold at ridiculously low prices and as the result it is being wasted as if there is no tomorrow. Oil should be no less than $1,000 per barrel if we at least give it a valuation as much as the common soft drinks used in most of the OPEC nations, which happens to be buttermilk! Oil is cheaper than buttermilk! Yet cows are not diminishing, nor are water and salt, so why in the world is crude oil cheaper than buttermilk? Coca Cola at $244 per barrel? Even if you add all the production costs, labor, marketing and shipping you will still find that oil has much higher production costs than a barrel of Coca Cola or Saki rice-wine, but that happens when in countries like Iran oil industry is “nationalized” which in reality means the entire nation’s wealth is “rectomized” if not the entire OPEC! And that is why they call it shipping and “handling” it is that handling portion that always gets you my friend.

So, this is why despots like Khamenie rule Iran, corrupt royals rule Saudi Arabia, a pervert rules Libya and bunch of fat-ass-belching-womanizers rule the rest of the oil producing nations of the west Asia and Isreal acts as the western equalizer in the region -the prima donna state. And that is why Iran’s regime with the help of the British find a man with small stature, dubious past and feeble-looking as the appointed President of Iran, so that god forbid if he decides to turn against the British, at least they have his testicles in their hands, and he does not have a look of man who can become a nation’s hero!!

The British certainly do not wish to create another Reza Khan in Iran who can become a disobedient servant at some point and a man that the nation can look up to him as a hero. When Reza Khan was chosen it was because they wanted to maintain a unity in Iran through a tough dictator to facilitate the building of the railroad from south to north to carry Allied Forces’ armament to Russia to fight Germans and to subsequently plunder the oil. But now Iran does not need unity and the more chaotic the better it serves the interest of the world as we have seen in the past 30 years.

At this juncture when all nations of the world are realizing the importance of alternative energy and while most of these nations will face energy winter in few decades if not sooner; Iran is sitting on huge reserves of uranium that will almost guarantee its prosperity in the next phase of energy production on this planet. So the question is how to prevent Iran from once again on becoming an energy powerhouse? Well, for the west the strategy would be to support British domination and interference in Iran and supporting the submissive regimes of despots and create a mass paranoia about Iran and the drama of a nuclear bomb and on top of that install a man as the President in Iran that everyone loves to hate!

To further divert the focus and finger-pointing, then once a year the British Embassy puts out these little shows outside their embassy in Tehran (as we saw last week) and pays cash to bunch of their cronies in south Tehran to come to the gates of the embassy and conduct these ridiculous demonstrations to pretend that indeed the British have some enemies in Iran and their welfare is endangered, bull! Someone should tell Nick Browne (the first British Ambassador in Iran since 1979) to stop the show and just do what you are good at, which is interference in Iranian affairs, assassination of our heroes and passing vital information to the Islamic Regime and Israel to get rid of the nationalists and facilitate your survival in Iran.

The fact that the British sent an Ambassador to Iran shows how established they are in Iran and their stronghold and they needed a higher-ranking official who is a specialist on Iran to evaluate the issue of enriching uranium, Browne is a man with a clear mission, as another Englishman General Ironside was decades ago.

As my ex-girlfriend used to say “let’s put it this way”, if Iran had a truly elected president who was 6 feet tall, handsome and loved by the majority of Iranians (precisely how presidents are elected in USA) and whom could stand on his feet in the United Nations’ General Assembly and be fluent in three languages defending the Iranian sovereignty, then no Iranian would be against Iran’s access to the nuclear energy. No Iranian would object for Iran to protect its sovereign rights to build centers to enrich uranium for producing energy.

But with the current gangs in charge of Iran the paranoia that is being fed all around the globe that Iran is building an atomic bomb, then the best was to have a man appointed in Iran that looks so weak as if he needs a kidney transplant just about any day and with a questionable past. The regime in Iran is losing its grip and the British and their allies are planning the next move supported by the US government whom represents the “muscle” in suppressing voices of defiance around the globe.

The US government’s blind following of the British doctrine in west Asia is the biggest revenge of the British since the Independence of 1776 when they were kicked out of America. American is paying a heavy price for kicking the British out of their colony more than two centuries ago. US will eventually control the oil, but the price will be very high.

Considering on how a very few give a damn about politics these days, next week we will talk about how to make eggplant stew with saffron, split peas and lamb shanks and fresh tomatoes. Until then sleep tight.

"Yet in either way, while the British and the west got the oil, the nations that own it have got the shaft!"

Interesting take on economics....but so wonderfully misses the point....If the oil is available, it enters the market, it's not the nation of Iran that gets "the shaft" for selling it....some 200 million per day into IRI coffers....it's the people who never see a better standard of living that are the recipients of "the shaft" as the "bend-over and don't complain" policy of the IRI has lined the pockets of the mullahs at the expense of the people's welfare and freedoms.

Any hurt the west has done the Iranian people is like a nat's bite on an elephant's ass in comparison to what the IRI continues to do.

So my friend, I think you are chasing the wrong rabbit, too concerned with the past (along with the author) to notice the terrorist rabbit who's made his home smack in the middle of your garden, munching away your future and freedom.

But go ahead and blame it all all the west like Antar and his buddies....'cause I can only surmise that the IRI has played you like a violin.

Since I support the Iranian people's aspirations for liberty, I can only be honest in my assesment, for to do otherwise would be a diservice both to them and to yourself.

"Yet in either way, while the British and the west got the oil, the nations that own it have got the shaft!"

Interesting take on economics....but so wonderfully misses the point....If the oil is available, it enters the market, it's not the nation of Iran that gets "the shaft" for selling it....some 200 million per day into IRI coffers....it's the people who never see a better standard of living that are the recipients of "the shaft" as the "bend-over and don't complain" policy of the IRI has lined the pockets of the mullahs at the expense of the people's welfare and freedoms.

Any hurt the west has done the Iranian people is like a nat's bite on an elephant's ass in comparison to what the IRI continues to do.

So my friend, I think you are chasing the wrong rabbit, too concerned with the past (along with the author) to notice the terrorist rabbit who's made his home smack in the middle of your garden, munching away your future and freedom.

But go ahead and blame it all all the west like Antar and his buddies....'cause I can only surmise that the IRI has played you like a violin.

Since I support the Iranian people's aspirations for liberty, I can only be honest in my assesment, for to do otherwise would be a diservice both to them and to yourself.

Regards,

Oppie

Dear Oppenheime,
Are the following correct data or not?
Barrel of Crude Oil $67 -
Barrel of water in a plastic bottle $105 -
Barrel of Coke $230 -
Barrel of French bottled mineral water $514 -
Barrel of British cup of tea $1,228 -
Barrel of Chinese soy sauce $1,293 -
Barrel of German Rhine wine $1,377 -
Barrel of Japanese Saki rice-wine $21,235 -

Quote:

But go ahead and blame it all all the west like Antar and his buddies....'cause I can only surmise that the IRI has played you like a violin.

Antar and all Islamist mullahs would have been dead long time ago if US politicians had a correct policy.
US is not going to be a Super power in next 20 years unless we change our strategy.
Today:
Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving Iranian people fighting Islamist Terror Masters and being pro American $0 -
Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving American Soldiers $0 -
At the top of this the American Tax Payers are paying over 200 billion dollars per year to Protect Cheap Oil for EU, China and Japan to destroy US economy

If we want to correct things president Bush should deliver the following promise regarding Iran NOW:

On January 20, 2005, George W. Bush outlined the goal of his second term. "It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," he said. "All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: the United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you."

The measures that we recommend and strongly advocate are as follows:

1. To stop, with immediate effect, all international trades with the undemocratic Islamist regime in Iran.
2. To stop the purchase of oil from Iran and not to start any new contracts or renew any existing ones.
3. To blockade Iran’s ports in the Persian Gulf and also possibly the Caspian Sea.
4. Train 200,000 Iranian youth to replace the Islamist regime security forces.
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"Antar and all Islamist mullahs would have been dead long time ago if US politicians had a correct policy. "

Are you suggesting we should have invaded Iran?

"US is not going to be a Super power in next 20 years unless we change our strategy."

Please reveiw my comments on the opposition's piecemeal protest strategy, I've been urging it be coordinated and silmutaneous nationwide for over a year now. As for 20 years out, you can count on the US still being around, while the regime is rotting in the dustbin of history, just as surely as the sun will rise tommorrow.

"Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving Iranian people fighting Islamist Terror Masters and being pro American $0 -
Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving American Soldiers $0 - "

Is it apropriate for you to insult both your people and mine, in saying the sacrifice of their lives is worthless?

I call things exactly as I see them Cyrus, and even Mr. Bush would tell you that I never mince words with anyone....make note of the following, I think you'll find a lot of food for thought in this post to you....and it's worth copying from one thread to another in this case, at risk of repeating myself....

Regards,

Oppie

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Dear Cyrus,

I do a bit more than simply follow the Free Iran case, as this letter will illustrate. My purpose here is that of a "bridge between cultures".

The traffic goes both ways, I simply hope I am a stong enough bridge to carry the weight of the message.

For those who've questioned my intent in the past, know that I do not receive a dime for doing so. It's not about money, it's about saving lives.

You may note the date, but there are some things that must remain non-public, such as personal contact info. Therefore the header is not complete, nor are names included.

I think you'll find that your concerns have been noted and passed on in my comments to the Dept. of State.

Regards,

Oppie

Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: ATT IRAN DESK

To: Iran Desk, US Dept. of State

Dear (---),

Forwarding this to you for consideration, and those it may concern.

Iran’s Supreme Leader orders unprecedented crackdown Mon. 12 Sep 2005

Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Sep. 12 – Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has ordered the head of the country’s judiciary to deal “decisively” with “elements creating disruption in society” and sentence them to “the most severe punishment that God has prescribed”, the semi-official daily Jomhouri Islami wrote in its Tuesday edition.

“Following a report by the Tehran Prosecutor’s Office to the chief of the judiciary which was later presented by him to the Supreme Leader, the Leader issued an order to deal decisively with trouble-makers”, the hard-line daily Jomhouri Islami quoted the head of Tehran’s Justice Department, Abbas-Ali Alizadeh, as saying.

“We must not even give these people the right to life”, Alizadeh said of those he called “trouble-makers”. He said special tribunals had been set up to deal expeditiously with these persons.

The report also added that Khamenei had ordered Judiciary Chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi to hand down “decisive, divine sentences to trouble-makers”. Iran’s clerical rulers often refer to public hangings, amputation of limbs, and other such punishment as “divine sentences”.

“It is necessary, with the cooperation of the Ministry of Intelligence and Security and the State Security Forces, to wage a fierce fight against such persons”, Supreme Leader Khamenei was quoted as saying.

The daily added that following the decree, Shahroudi called on judges to issue “more severe sentences” and to take more seriously the new “national security initiative” to punish “trouble-makers”.

Tehran’s top judge added that the judiciary planned to “create insecurity for trouble-makers” and “not give these people a right to life”.

Authorities routinely refer to anti-government activists or ordinary people deemed to act in un-Islamic ways as trouble-makers.

Interview With the New York Post Editorial Board

Secretary Condoleezza Rice
New York City
September 15, 2005

(excerpt)

QUESTION: In the President’s State of the Union message he basically said (inaudible) will be there to help you on it.

SECRETARY RICE: Well, the problem in Iran is that the train is going the other way right now. The hardliners have managed, I think, to – for the time being – silence any organized opposition and you have the sense that it’s difficult for the population, which is (inaudible) deeply dissatisfied with their government, but it’s difficult for the population to find someplace to adhere, you know, you need a focal point and I think they’re having -- there’s (inaudible) trouble in doing that.

But in Iran, we do have some democracy programs that we’re doing. They’re small and they’re doing them through nongovernmental organizations because we don’t want to give the government a reason to crack down on what little democratic activity there is in Iran.

The second point is that the Iranian people would – the United States Government is very popular with the Iranian people.

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On one hand Secretary Rice has a point when she says that American support may give cause to the regime for crackdowns, but the reality is they don't need an excuse, and they are actively suppressing any and all dissent in Iran regardless of the level of American support to the point where in a few years there won't be an opposition in Iran because they'll all be in mass graves or in some hell-hole of a prison.

The point I must stress here in terms of American credibility with those seeking and badly needing our support and that of the international community is that there are no halfway measures that may prove effective.

Big debate over effective US public diplomacy right now, and as I look at this in all its aspects with regards to Iran, both with the people and the government as separate tracks, I’ll be very blunt in saying that the war of ideas as it pertains to support for democratic change cannot be won unless full tilt effort in concrete ways to hold this regime to account along with total and uncompromising support is given to the people to effect change from within.

1. You risk losing the good will of the Iranian people if you don’t put pedal to the metal with support. As well as the credibility of the president’s statement to the Iranian people.

2. Halfway measures don’t produce results, whether that is on nuclear issues or human rights issues. Standing on principal cannot be with one foot.

3. The question of nationalistic pride over right to nuclear production is very debatable, as the people not only have no voice in the matter, but any poll to that effect must be regarded as suspect, as the farce of the Iranian election process proves.

4. Lots of anger in the Iranian community over the visa issue, and many cannot understand why if the man has been deemed unfit for visa for questions relating to terrorism, why he is not served a warrant for his arrest at this point.

5. I personally understand the complexities involved, and the strategy of letting him pretty well hang himself with his own words in the UN, as he did Saturday, and the issue surrounding a diplomatic approach in giving the IRI a chance to pull back from confrontation. But there are real and legitimate concerns within the opposition that the president’s words will not be acted upon in time to prevent the opposition in Iran from being totally crushed.

6. Confrontation, is in my mind inevitable, whether US efforts in diplomacy fail in multilateral setting is going to be dependant on the effect of a “full court press” in the UN Sec. Council with resolutions tabled on the nuclear dossier, the human rights dossier, and the terrorism dossier not just as separate issues, but intertwined, interdependent, with emphasis on “responsibility to protect”.

7. I believe that short of military confrontation the following suggestions in this letter to Ambassador Bolton reflect a great deal of thought put into this by the Iranian opposition, and present viable alternative options for consideration.

The Honorable John Bolton,
United States Ambassador to the UN
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520

Via Federal Express & Fax (202) 647-0244

Dear Mr. Ambassador,

On behalf of the membership of the "Student Movement
Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran" (SMCCDI), and
the people of Iran who have striven so long for freedom of
speech, worship, assembly, a free press, civil liberties,
woman's rights, the application of the Universal
Declaration of Human Rights, and the rule of law; We
congratulate you on your nomination as America's Ambassador
to the UN.

Comes now this Iranian opposition group, to apprise you of
the facts, the conclusions and suggestions we have been
given to put forward herein this letter, as context to the
2005 UN Summit, and the pending address to the UN of the
Islamic Republic regime's appointed president, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, with the gravest concern for the welfare and
common good of all people, and generations to come...

"In Larger Freedom"

The body of evidence compiled over the long history of
the Islamic Republic's systemic methodology of torture,
political repression and murder of journalists and
dissidents; crimes against humanity including the past and
current crackdown on ethnic and religious minorities, and
"troublemakers" (i.e.: political dissidents of the regime);
applying a Gender Apartheid policy and sexual
discrimination against women; sponsoring and officially
engaging in terrorism (internally and externally), by its
leadership and proxy; suppression of the press, closing of
TV and newspapers as well as confiscation of satellite
dishes, the arrest of "bloggers" and the shutting down of
internet sites, arbitrary arrest and lack of "due process";
the denial of requested information to the UN Commission on
Human Rights (and its sub committees), the denial of access
and information to the IAEA, false declaration to various
UN committee; The failure to uphold the tenants of the UN
Charter signed by Iran in 1948 (in multiple aspects,
consistently and premeditative, and the long history of
denial, subterfuge, bribery, and false public statements on
the record in the UN we believe must be addressed in
totality, before the Security Council, along with other
issues and recommendations brought before the council
regarding this regime, to obtain a holistic solution to a
common threat.

We understand that the UN Commission on Human Rights
mandate covers only one aspect of the larger picture that
must be addressed, and while the "1503 procedure" states, "
No communication will be admitted if it runs counter to the
principles of the Charter of the United Nations or appears
to be politically motivated." and further states, "As a
rule, communications containing abusive language or
insulting remarks about the State against which the
complaint is directed will not be considered."

We believe it is essential that you and the Commission
understand that SMCCDI's intent is not "politically
motivated" in seeking greater freedom for Iran's people,
nor does any member aspire to become a representative of
any new political structure that may exist in a future free
Iran. It is important for us that you and the UN understand
the nature and precepts of SMCCDI as well as the long road
that has brought the opposition in general to the
conclusions and suggestions expressed herein.

While the 1503 procedure states that no "insulting
language" be used, the truth is different from opinion, and
evil is as evil does. Therefore, while the Islamic regime
will no doubt claim insult and injury to its reputation,
one must in all honesty; call it like one sees it being
manifest in action. Using logic over emotionalism, truth
over viewpoint, and ethics over all.

This is one of the reasons we welcome your tenure as UN
Ambassador, as you have the reputation of manifesting
tangible results, whether it be on UN reform, proliferation
of WMD, or state sponsors of terrorism. We wish to inform
you as a courtesy that a copy of this letter will be hand
delivered to the door of the UN, on September 14th, for
your kind inspection, while thousands of freedom loving
Iranians outside the UN protesting this regime cheer you on
as well as cheering on other free nations' representatives
as measures are taken to address the theocratic regime's
abysmal activities before the UN general assembly.

As you may face the incarnation of boycott and the
regime's answer to the aspirations of the Iranian people's
desire to self determination in the form of an evil man who
has come to power illegitimately; who comes to usurp the
chair of membership in the UN which is by right the chair
belonging to the Iranian people; Usurped by an unpopular
regime that has never held credence to the premise of the
UN charter, or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in
word or deed; we urge you, and all free nation's
representatives to address this issue of , and consider
wisely the matter of the regime's membership, as a matter
of UN reform.

Sir,

Our opposition movement (SMCCDI) is bound by a charter
formed on principals such as; Human Rights, Democracy,
separation of church and states, and free markets. We
believe these principals represent the most fair and
efficient means for humanity to realize its potential.

Ultimately, no repressive, intolerant regime can withstand
the spread of these ideals.
The Islamic Republic regime currently in power in Iran or
any Islamic variances that may exist there in the future
are no exception. By staying true to these values our
people's triumph is absolutely, positively, and undeniably
inevitable.

It is these precepts voiced by Secretary General Kofi
Annan; "Today, our challenge -- as it was for the founders
of the United Nations -- is to pass on to our children a
brighter legacy than that bequeathed to us. We must build
a future as envisioned in the UN Charter -- a future in
larger freedom"; that the Iranian opposition, and the
democracy movement in Iran is based upon, referencing the
Universal Declaration on Human Rights, so often among the
various opposition groups over these past years.

The horror of this evil regime's hypocrisy, and methodical
atrocities can only be likened to a daily Auschwitz for the
stain it brings on the honor of those who appease and
support and lengthen the life span of this barbaric and
tyrannical regime through silence, economic incentive,
"engagement" and illusion. Blind or not as they may be of
what is taking place in our country, or the intent of the
regime in many aspects that threaten the security of the
international community.
Nor can the international community, or any member of any
government that holds in their heart the values of freedom
continue to turn their back on these long standing issues,
and still call themselves human. Or allow this regime,
along with other human rights abusers to block necessary UN
reform of the human rights commission, or the draft
measures in reference on "responsibility to protect".

As a "test case" for UN reform, the Islamic Republic
regime qualifies in every conceivable way.

It is our hope placed in trust that you (as have the US
President and his Secretary of State and many members of US
Congress in the past) will illuminate the plight of our
people that have struggled to shrug off the oppressors and
theocratic chains which have bound the Iranian people for
so long. Chains which have silenced the voice of the people
in utterance, and stilled them with overwhelming force.
Chains denying the Iranian people a better future for our
children, and our children's children for over a generation
in this process

Speaking in regard to "International Woman's Day, March 8,
2005" the US Secretary of State said, "Freedom, the
protection of fundamental human rights, economic
opportunity and prosperity, equality and the rule of
law...these are all elements of the democratic process.
Women are integral to the process of building responsible
governments and democratic institutions. Women's
participation and empowerment at all levels of society will
be key to moving these new democracies forward."

It is the women, who represent a large part of the
opposition and will make a major contribution through their
degree of knowledge and political and civil maturity to the
democratic and peaceful revolution we seek to manifest, as
well as to a future democratic Iran. We cannot carry such
baggage or the individuals who continue to deny women their
place in society in this process of regaining our freedom
and their equality in the process.

Mr. Ambassador,

When one considers the IRI in totality, the abysmal human
rights record, its long-standing support for terrorism,
it's WMD programs in violation of signed agreements; logic
dictates that with or without referral by the IAEA, this
ideological and unelected regime should not just be
sanctioned, but booted out of the UN altogether for gross
violation of the UN charter, which the Iran Nation is a
signatory to, believing it to be criminally negligent for
any nation to support the continuance and aspirations of
the Islamic Republic system one day longer, and remaining
"seized of the matter." As Churchill put it, "Given the
choice between war and dishonor, Chamberlain chose dishonor
and got war."

To this point, the only leader of free nations who's had
that alternate vision of an Iran existing within the
community of nations..."in larger freedom", and had the
guts to voice the option is President George W. Bush...."..
and to the Iranian people I say tonight, as you stand for
your own liberty, America stands with you." The man
presented possibilities to people in so doing, as a
president will on occasion.

Those words of hope to our people must now be joined in
chorus among all free nations, standing in solidarity with
the tenets and premise of "in larger freedom". The freedom
from fear, from want, the hope to raise our children in
dignity and in religious freedom in a nation that is truly
secular and representative of the people's will.

We shall see if the UN honors the precepts of its founding
Charter, whether the EU, Russia, China and India will
continue to trade and negotiate with a tyrannical and
terrorist regime, and whether the UN membership comes
together in solidarity of it's founding principals to honor
the words of President Bush to the Iranian people.

If the UN cannot see fit to honor the tenets of its
founding by enforcing its Charter on members signatory to
it, we in the Iranian opposition will briefly bow our heads
in shame being witness to this, but only briefly as time is
short, and our heads will rise looking only forward, as our
feet continue to trod the path of freedom in process,
whether the international community supports us or not. But
whether this popular movement is successful, or crushed,
depends now upon free nation's support for the aspirations
of Iranian liberty.

It is self-evident that the international community cannot
live with terrorists, nor terrorist regimes in its midst.
There is but one solution to common security in larger
freedom.

To prevent war and/or civil war, the Islamic regime must
be disavowed by the UN as not legitimately representative
of the People of Iran, and held accountable for its
activities.
Nor can its newly unelected leader, self confessed to
having fired coup de grace bullets into political prisoners
after being tortured; under investigation for hostage
taking and other murders outside of the territory of Iran;
claim any "diplomatic immunity", nor be afforded any claim
by the regime under the rules of UN membership, nor be
granted same by the UN, or host nation, if the
investigation warrants prosecution.

We ask very simply that America, and every democratic
member nation of the United Nations, and their
representatives and leaders stand united with the Iranian
people now. Not as diplomats or representatives neither of
nations, nor even as members of the UN per se, but simply
as Humans. For this, and the hope of liberty and justice is
what binds all people, and the UN together in unity, under
the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the premise
of the UN Charter.

Indeed, the Islamic Republic regime is engaged in terror,
torture and atrocity on a daily basis, and this
illegitimate regime dares to call itself Democratic, an
advocate of human rights, and protector of the oppressed
throughout the region. A cruel joke added onto the injury
to our nation's pride and heritage, as reportedly the
regime via a dam, will submerge the founder of Persia,
Cyrus the Great's tomb and the archeological sites of
Pasargad and Persepolice under water.
The only way our people can regain our honor, civil
liberties and the trust of the world for a WMD-free Iran
that seeks to provide a safer future for the world and
adheres to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is by
providing us, the people of Iran, the support for our
legitimate aspirations of liberty necessary to restore hope
to the land that Cyrus the Great brought Democracy to over
2500 years ago.

Those ancient precepts regarding freedom of worship,
individual right to own property, freedom from slavery,
representative government in a democratic "federalist"
government that respected the states rights to determine
local laws so long as they were consistent with the
inherent rights of the people, respecting territorial
integrity in the process, have proven themselves over time
and among many cultures. The UN has a replica of this vital
document on display in the entrance lobby. It is as if to
us, the regime intends to submerge the very tenets that
civilization was founded upon, honored and recognized in
the UN, on display. This is not just Persia's heritage
that is at stake, but mankind's, and we hope that a
resolution will be tabled and mandated to protect and
preserve this historical legacy for future generations.

Sir,

With the firm unanimous voice of the UN, and the pressure
that may be applied "in greater freedom" The UN may honor
the precepts of its founding principals, and reform itself
into an effective, cohesive, transparent instrument for the
common good of all men and women. But if not starting with
the "test case" the regime poses, where will, and when
will, UN reform becomes manifest in action and intent, "
being seized of the matter"? All reform must have some
gage or measure to assess its merit; we propose this as a
means to that end.

1. Implementation of full international economic and
military sanctions on the Islamic Republic regime via UN
Security Council resolution based on human rights, support
for terrorism, and this to be tabled with or without IAEA
board recommendation on the nuclear threat the theocracy
poses. These two issues alone should be viewed as
circumstance the world cannot turn it's back upon, at risk
of civilization itself.

Such measures should include coordination with oil
producing nations to ensure stable world supply while
sanction persists, as well as the halting of any and all
arms transfers to the Islamic Republic regime via the
Proliferation Security Initiative.

2. Full diplomatic sanction and closing of Islamic
republic's embassies worldwide, removal and deportation of
regime representatives, their agents and spies from all
nations.
Diplomatic sanction by the UN, revocation of UN membership
and removal of representation from this international forum
till such time as a legitimate interim government can be
established in Iran.

Note: We ask that concerns regarding lack of consular
functions as a result of this action be cooperatively
addressed, so as to continue to allow emergency visas to be
issued. (i.e. family emergencies, etc.) It may be possible
to retain the minimum consular functions, under tight
supervision, but they are well known in their recruiting
of, and issuing visa to potential martyrs and terrorists.

3. Freezing of any and all financial assets of the Islamic
Republic system, current and former leadership, and
corporate interests worldwide, till such time as a new
interim government can be established.

As well as allocation of portions of these assets now to
legitimate non-violent opposition groups inside and outside
Iran, to provide the tangible support needed while civil
disobedience becomes manifest in action. Only in this way
can this action be self-sustaining till it succeeds. Poland
couldn't have become free without support, nor can we, as
this is much to expect of a people under the boot of
repression for over a generation.

4. Repeated statements by world leaders publicly calling
for the leadership of the Islamic Republic regime to step
down peacefully, and to relinquish the government to the
hands and will of the Iranian people, and a UN monitored
"direct" referendum to choose a legitimate, representative,
secular government structure.

5. The coordinated post-regime rebuilding of vital social
institutions and infrastructure of democracy should be
implemented now in preparation, along with he training of
judges, civil servants, police, etc. The Iranian exile
community can provide some of the talent initially, and
there are many more inside Iran supporting the opposition
who will answer the call to service as the situation
permits. This will speed up the post-regime stabilization
process, and greatly enhance institutional development in
the interim government, and constitutional process.

In addition, while SMCCDI does not speak for other groups
in the opposition, we believe it is vital for our efforts
to become coordinated in the formation of a working group
among leaders of opposition groups, in conjunction with
free nation's representatives to help facilitate and
coordinate all of the above measures in a roundtable "Forum
for the Future" of Iran.

The coordination of economic and military sanction,
freezing of assets, closing of embassies, banishment from
the UN General Assembly and other UN related institutions,
such as UNESCO, and other non-violent measures as may be
found worthy under international law will be overwhelming
to the Islamic Republic of Iran, providing solid legitimate
purpose and support among the people of Iran to effect
change from within.

Mr. Ambassador,

We have striven in our legitimate aspirations for liberty
for over two decades, and often frustrated as the pace of
those aspirations seem to be like that of traveling on the
back of a snail. The vast majority has therefore concluded
that any real democratic reform though legitimate election
or national referendum on the people's choice for a secular
political structure in Iran cannot be possible so long as
this evil ideological regime continues in power. Nor can
the international community relegate terrorism to the
dustbin of history while this regime remains in power.

While our aspirations include taking our future into our
own hands, we are convinced after this long in a most
pragmatic way, that those aspirations cannot be obtained in
isolation or silence, we need the entire international
community firmly by our people's side in word and deed if
the agenda the US president has laid out for global freedom
is to become manifest in Iran.

This noble endeavor in common cause does not require
military intervention, nor do we ask for, or seek this in
any form. The method of civil disobedience has a long
history of painful success throughout history, and with
international support will serve to liberate our people
from tyranny and the world from the blind ambitions of the
theocratic regime in a rather short period of time, if they
are implemented in full now, and in a coordinated and
simultaneous manner.

We in the opposition movement see the strong two-faced
diplomacy the Islamic Republic regime is engaged in, that
has not only caused nations to appease the regime with
offers of economic incentive, but that has caused others to
support their blind ambitions, through various means,
including silence and abstention of action on Human Rights
within the various mechanisms of the UN, sale and smuggling
of arms and WMD technology, and economic trade.

We see the effects of this diplomacy and blatant
propaganda on some members of the US Congress, various
governments and international think tanks, as well as the
IAEA. We see the confusion in policy that has been proposed
by former members of various governments, as well the many
cases in which the UN Commission on Human Rights failed in
the past to be unanimous in their condemnation of the
Islamic Republic regime's human rights record and we
strongly urge you and other free nations' representatives
to address their perceptions in this most grave and
dangerous illusion of providing "political benefit of the
doubt" that some members have apparently been following, as
soon as possible.

We, the membership of the Iranian opposition, among all
the various groups have no doubt of the regime's intent, or
continued activities as described and documented over a
long period of time. There are no "rogue elements" of the
regime involved in the transport of shaped munitions into
Iraq, no "rogue elements" of the regime training martyrs
for terrorism operations, recruiting them through public
advertisement, no "rogue elements" committing crimes
against humanity among our people. No "rogue element"
harboring al-quaida. These are fully supported by,
instructed by, and funded by the Islamic Republic of Iran
in whole, not in part, nor independent of its appointed
president's knowledge, and done so by mandate of the
Guardian Council.

Failure to address these grave issues now will be a
dereliction of the UN's founding mandate, and those member
states that fail to recognize this must answer to history.

In conclusion Sir,

It would therefore be in our opinion (reflective of the
1503 procedures), criminally negligent for members of the
UN Commission on Human Rights, and the UN Security Council
to fail to act on the body of evidence regarding security
issues and threats the IRI poses at this time to the
international community and of systematic human rights
abuse (in all aspects) by the Islamic Republic regime; due
to "political considerations" within their respective
nations who's Human Rights records are not the best, or
economic factors in trade with the regime playing a part in
debate, threat of veto, or abstention of moral
responsibility.

It would be quite logical therefore were the UN to
disavow any vote that was deemed "politically motivated" in
the Security Council, calling for a two-thirds majority
vote in the General Assembly to implement any resolution
not achieved in SC decision, along with GA voting on ending
any and all participation, membership and communication
from the Islamic Republic regime (other than answering to
charges brought), for the regime itself is in consistent
and conscious violation of multiple aspects of the UN
Charter, and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights that
the UN is founded upon.

It is for these reasons described herein (as well as the
fact that while Iran is an original signatory to the UN
charter, the current regime flaunts the tenets and is not
legitimately in an of itself, a signatory to it.), that we
have suggested revocation of UN membership through the UN
General Assembly by a two-thirds majority vote as may be
done under the governing rules of the UN, until such time
as a new interim government is established in its place
which will re-ratify Iran's adherence to the UN Charter and
rejoin the family of nations in good standing.

Whereas: "communications may be submitted by individuals
or groups who claim to be victims of human rights
violations or who have direct, reliable knowledge of
violations."

Whereas: "each communication must describe the facts, the
purpose of the petition and the rights that have been
violated." And we have striven to do so.

Whereas: "domestic remedies have been exhausted", and it
is convincingly apparent that "solutions at the national
level have been ineffective" - "over an unreasonable length
of time."

We therefore respectfully ask that this letter also be
taken in this context as such a petition to provide proper
perspective to you, the Whitehouse, the UN member states,
President of the General Assembly Ping as well as to
Secretary General Annan on the issues we have addressed
herein with the gravest concern for the welfare of
humanity.

Regarding the security risk the regime poses to its
citizens through its WMD programs and intent in acquiring
this capability. We believe this too, constitutes a
violation of our basic civil liberties (having no voice in
the matter) and poses an unacceptable risk to the
population of Iran and the region through potential and
perhaps unavoidable catastrophic conflict, if the UN does
not act accordingly to prevent further tragedy now.

Some time ago I had written a comment about the revenge the Brits are yet taking from the Americans for being kicked out of U.S.A. Therefore I share you evaluation of the peculiar relationship between the two.
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One of the most idiotic conspiracy theories I've ever laid eyes on.....needless to say the Brits would be speaking German right about now had in not been for the US in WW2....and that memory is still among the living....

HHakimi may have been an Ambassador, but that doesn't guarrantee common sense.

"Antar and all Islamist mullahs would have been dead long time ago if US politicians had a correct policy. "
Are you suggesting we should have invaded Iran?

No, invasion of Iran is not necessary if we were sincerely after Islamist regime change policy in Iran in past 26 years. There is a list of 100 things a Super Power like US with 70 to 80% support from Iranian people can do before considering the military option. Military option is always more profitable for corporations that are building Missiles, Planes and Bombs and very expensive for American people and American soliders. If most of our politicians truly working for American National Interests we would have used our military power rarely.
If and when we try all other options and we don't get the expected result then we need to consider the military option.

Oppenheimer wrote:

"Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving Iranian people fighting Islamist Terror Masters and being pro American $0 -
Barrel of Blood from freedom-loving American Soldiers $0 - "

Is it apropriate for you to insult both your people and mine, in saying the sacrifice of their lives is worthless?

You know very well that I am not intending to insult therefore why are you saying this? I did not insult freedom-loving Iranian people fighting Islamist Terror Masters or freedom-loving American Soldiers, just stated unfortunate facts in a very abstract sentence.
Who is really insulting freedom-loving Iranian and American people?
UN and our politicians when they allow Islamist MonkeyNejad to come to US and use UN platform …. And ignore American hostages statements and don’t arrest MonkeyNejad the killer of 1000s

We should have kicked out Islamist regime from UN long time ago for violation of human rights and International Terrorism ….. Why US government did not ask for these actions…..?

According to very respected American sources the Islamist regime spent over billion dollars for terrorism in Iraq to create many problems …., how much US government spent in Iran to help freedom loving Iranian people and for changing Islamist regime? The Islamist regime spends over 200 million dollars per year in US to destroy Iranian American oppositions to the regime and pay for lobbyists in Washington ….
Iranian oppositions don’t have access to oil money to buy EU, Japan, China politicians ….
President Bush invites backwards leaders to white house but he never publicly invited Prince RP or other Iranian American opposition leaders, human rights activist and writers to white house….. Why?

The above are the small list of insults to freedom-loving American people not what we say in open forum here.

Your strategy is idealist when there is no direct US support for Iranian oppositions against Islamist regime with a lot of oil money and U.S. does not force the Islamist regime to free all political prisoners , respect human rights or else …..

In order to please EU3 neo colonialist and Saudi the Bush Admin did not help freedom-loving Iranian people and relatively silent regarding executions and tortures in Iran …..
US state Dept. reports stated correctly human rights violations by Islamist regime, where is our real actions regarding these clear violations?

Bush Admin only talk about mass graves in Iraq, what about mass graves in Iran, what about raping 9 years girl by Islamist regime before execution, what about killing over 400 Iranian opposition in EU capitals in past 26 years …. What about executing over 120,000 political prisoners in Iran ….
Please review over 50 articles by great American Scholar Dr. Michael Leeden in past 4 years regarding Iran with many facts, is stating facts considered as insulting American people? NO

We are asking for clear US policy regarding Islamist regime change and real actions if we are serious about free society, secular democracy, freedom and war on terror.
Islamist regime change is far easier for a Super power than fighting with Hitler or Soviet Union, or china please don’t compare Islamist regime with less than 5% support and these countries. Changing Islamist regime for US is far easier task but it is very difficult for Iranian oppositions without resources and oil money. We should not forget that US and EU has helped Islamists to come to power in Iran, now it is time to correct our past mistakes unless we have hidden agenda and we are not truthful in what we say. We can not have any security and peace in the world as long as the Islamist regime is in power in Iran.

If we want to correct things president Bush should deliver the following promise regarding Iran NOW:

On January 20, 2005, George W. Bush outlined the goal of his second term. "It is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," he said. "All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: the United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you."

The measures that we recommend and strongly advocate are as follows:

1. To stop, with immediate effect, all international trades with the undemocratic Islamist regime in Iran.
2. To stop the purchase of oil from Iran and not to start any new contracts or renew any existing ones.
3. To blockade Iran’s ports in the Persian Gulf and also possibly the Caspian Sea.
4. Train 200,000 Iranian youth to replace the Islamist regime security forces when the regime collapse.
5. Financial help for Iranian oppositions for secular democracy in Iran to match the amount that the Islamist regime and Saudi regime spends for Islamist terrorism....
6. Regime must be kicked out of UN now.

Some time ago I had written a comment about the revenge the Brits are yet taking from the Americans for being kicked out of U.S.A. Therefore I share you evaluation of the peculiar relationship between the two.
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Oppenheimer lol. seems like my hallucinations are contagious, eh! so you see now. it's not just me. it's every where.

could it be you're the naive one? NO! impossible. I know. ok.

your best ally is Britain. and you trust them so much as to giving them a knife and turning your back.

Oppenheimer wrote:
Some time ago I had written a comment about the revenge the Brits are yet taking from the Americans for being kicked out of U.S.A. Therefore I share you evaluation of the peculiar relationship between the two.
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Now with regard to the measures you ask America to take, let me go one by one...SMCCDI's letter went far beyond this Cyrus, and that's why I posted it again...and they asked this of the international community.

Since you are speaking specificly about what you feel Mr. Bush needs to do NOW, I will answer in that way.

1. To stop, with immediate effect, all international trades with the undemocratic Islamist regime in Iran.

Iran has been under US trade sanction for over a decade.

2. To stop the purchase of oil from Iran and not to start any new contracts or renew any existing ones.

US does not buy Iranian oil, as per sanctions in place.

3. To blockade Iran’s ports in the Persian Gulf and also possibly the Caspian Sea.

A blocade dear Cyrus, if you look up international law, is and has been for a long time considered to be an ACT OF WAR....and would certainly be treated as such by the IRI.

SMCCDI's proposal would incorperate institution building and training, and not just in a security sector...but judicial and others. The reason for the suggestion is spelled out very clearly.

5. Financial help for Iranian oppositions for secular democracy in Iran to match the amount that the Islamist regime and Saudi regime spends for Islamist terrorism....

First step is to cut off the funding, freeze the regime's assets (which the US has done) UN resolutions on financing of terrorism bind all countries to halt the flow of money and support are a matter of public record dating back years.

US instituted the UN Democracy fund, of which many nations have contributed to....have any opposition groups (as part of civil society) applied for funding?

S333 is subject to revision and amendment...I believe the amount allocated matches the amount of frozen Iranian assets in the US.

6. Regime must be kicked out of UN now.

The US is one member nation among 191. It takes a two-thirds majority of the UN general assembly to revoke a member state's membership or suspend it.

Not my strategy Cyrus....I was simply commenting on the strategy of the opposition at this current time....as well...the strategy of a massive national strike is an Iranian idea that has never born fruit...it doesn't require external support directly to achive that, as long as it is properly coordinated. SMCCDI proposed that this be in tandem with international sanction to maximize effect, but there is no sign that Iranians can uphold their end due to lack of coordination.

I posed the "what if" question regarding some 850 protests since the "election" and what effect may have been had they been simultaneous and coordinated...instead of in the piecemeal way they were strung out over time and lacking coordinated effort were simply crushed by the IRI.

Now if you think that the Iranian strategy I was refering to is idealist....you may be correct, given the reality on the ground.

You wish to propose an option considered by all nation to be an act of war...that's your decision...but it seems to fly in the face of reason to assume that it would simply stop there.

In addition, it seems the effect of even the threat to take the IRI to the security council, is having the effect of isolating the regime, as it has gone on public record by Antar himself as willing to take steps to isolate itself, it's oil exports, and other means to respond to IAEA action pending in November.

Yet you decry US lack of action....remember who pushed the EU to take this step, who pushed Russia and China to abstain from opposing it.
and judge for yourself whether US "Iran policy' is working to effect the results you seek.

One last thing....If you wish to pose something in the abstract...don't use human life....that's not an abstract equasion.

Not to mention the value families might place upon the loss of loved ones, the economic impact to those families, or any future earnings.

Life is not a zero sum game Cyrus, and I would have thought better of you had you thought better about posting your emotional outburst.

Interesting take on economics....but so wonderfully misses the point....If the oil is available, it enters the market, it's not the nation of Iran that gets "the shaft" for selling it....some 200 million per day into IRI coffers....it's the people who never see a better standard of living that are the recipients of "the shaft" as the "bend-over and don't complain" policy of the IRI has lined the pockets of the mullahs at the expense of the people's welfare and freedoms.

good point oppie. right on!
see that's the diff. betwn. Americans and birts!

The brits don't give a damn what other nations go through. never have, never will. no matter how many times you remind them of policies like 'democratic gov. for middle East' and how terrorists regimes can eventually be a threat to western civilization. they don't see it that way.

while Americans don't mind to do business fair and square and don't really need to steal from others, brits prefer it the way it is. they've suppressed these nations themselves, so indeed they like what the mullahs are doing. it's just how sadistic they are. their queen almost ate her heart out when she saw the elaborate ceremony in persepolis at "jashne farhang o honar". they hate it when others do well for themselves.

Americans got here on their own hard work. but not the brits.
so it's natural that Americans don't get jelous of others' advancement. they actually feel happy to see good things in other places.

but the brits can't look at something nice elsewhere without wanting it for themselves. that's the diff. and they go as far as getting others to pay the price so they can have what they want with a lot of political manipulations, backstabbings in just the right time, yet minimum cost to britain.

that's what he means when he wants americans not to follow all british plots step by step. because there wont be any regard for humanity in any of it. and that's not very american. get it?

but ofcourse, you wouldn't be interested. so. forget it._________________Paayande Iran

You should not consider my comments as "emotional outburst" but a big concern regarding the level of our progress and many promises that Bush Admin has not delivered in order to please the EU3.
If today US has 70 to 80% support in Iran is because of Iranian activists that are acting as a good messengers not because of special US state Dept. strategy…. If Bush Admin continues to be deceived by EU3 evil plotters and does not execute correct policy regarding Iran we will loose Iranian people support very soon. Bush Admin and US congress are very slow regarding Iran and this is a big concern. U.S is putting all its resources on Iraq…..

I was specificly refering to the "barrel of blood" section of your post...not your legitimate concerns, of which I not only understand, but have striven to convey to the US Dept of State.

Believe me, I don't put into a letter what someone here described as "whitewash"

"If today US has 70 to 80% support in Iran is because of Iranian activists that are acting as a good messengers not because of special US state Dept. strategy…"

I'm sure US policy plays a part, as evidenced by the difference in US policy with say EU or Russian policy, and the difference in attitude of the Iranian people toward the EU and Russia.

But good communication and understanding is essential as well...so while I try and help folks make sense of current US policy...I also take in those concerns expressed....ideas...etc.

Sifting through all of it is a bit of a task....reality vs perception....take the opinion that the EU is "manipulating" the US for instance....I see statement, but no proof offered....in fact it is my opinion that over these last years...the EU has come around more toward US thinking on Iranian issues than they ever have in previous years.

So has Russia for that matter....China has as well altered some of it's dealings with the IRI.

The concern universally expressed regarding IRI's nuclear weapons programs was before only expressed by the US.

The president of the US sets foreign policy, the State Dept implements it, and Congress funds it...and debate and consultation are mandated in all by the Constitution.

It's a kind of simplistic way to define the policy process, but it is accurate.

And if you find it slow and confusing at times...imagine the process in the UN between 191 nations...all with their separate agendas.

Now I said Iran policy was included in a broad general strategy in the war on terrorism...but the policy is even broader than the limits of the war on terrorism as people generally think of it.

And to be quite specific and point to that solid policy you can read and judge for yourself exactly how it applies to the IRI, please take the time to read The National Security Strategy of the United States

National Security Policy of the United States: Foreword by President George W. Bush

The United States will stand beside any nation determined to build a better future by seeking the rewards of liberty for its people. Free trade and free markets have proven their ability to lift whole societies out of poverty—so the United States will work with individual nations, entire regions, and the entire global trading community to build a world that trades in freedom and therefore grows in prosperity. The United States will deliver greater development assistance through the New Millennium Challenge Account to nations that govern justly, invest in their people, and encourage economic freedom.We will also continue to lead the world in efforts to reduce the terrible toll of HIV/AIDS and other infectious diseases.

In building a balance of power that favors freedom, the United States is guided by the conviction that all nations have important responsibilities. Nations that enjoy freedom must actively fight terror. Nations that depend on international stability must help prevent the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Nations that seek international aid must govern themselves wisely, so that aid is well spent. For freedom to thrive, accountability must be expected and required.

We are also guided by the conviction that no nation can build a safer, better world alone. Alliances and multilateral institutions can multiply the strength of freedom-loving nations. The United States is committed to lasting institutions like the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, the Organization of American States, and NATO as well as other long-standing alliances. Coalitions of the willing can augment these permanent institutions. In all cases, international obligations are to be taken seriously. They are not to be undertaken symbolically to rally support for an ideal without furthering its attainment.

Freedom is the non-negotiable demand of human dignity; the birthright of every person—in every civilization. Throughout history, freedom has been threatened by war and terror; it has been challenged by the clashing wills of powerful states and the evil designs of tyrants; and it has been tested by widespread poverty and disease. Today, humanity holds in its hands the opportunity to further freedom’s triumph over all these foes. The United States welcomes our responsibility to lead in this great mission.

George W. Bush
September 17, 2002

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now you asked why Mr. Bush had not met with RP or any other opposition group....

One thing's for sure...he's have to invite everyone...else some would feel snubbed (with the possible exception of the MEK for still being on the list of terrorist org's...which would preclude such a meeting by law)

SMCCDI suggested a roundtable "forum of the future" and it's a hell of an idea....and a very constructive suggestion.

So, I'll see what I can do to either make that happen, or give you a more concrete answer why it hasn't.

I think it would serve to mitigate the risk we both see in the US losing the faith of the Iranian people....but also consider the flip side ramifications wherein the press would freek right out and regime change and war speculation would run rampant...the IRI would freek out to the max....call it a Zionist conspiracy...etc. etc.

So I think it would be at a State Dept level, as an informational exchange of ideas, position, and policy...to benefit mutual understanding, issues of concern, things of that nature.

Would be interesting if some reps from various concerned nation's embassies were to take part as well....EU, Russia, China ....G8 members.

If I understand correctly, SMCCDI's letter to the G8 summit was well received, and it incorprated many of the same suggestions that were in the letter to Bolton.

National Security Policy of the United States: Foreword by President George W. Bush

The United States will stand beside any nation determined to build a better future by seeking the rewards of liberty for its people. Free trade and free markets have proven their ability to lift whole societies out of poverty—so the United States will work with individual nations, entire regions, and the entire global trading community to build a world that trades in freedom and therefore grows in prosperity. The United States will deliver greater development assistance through the New Millennium Challenge Account to nations that govern justly, invest in their people, and encourage economic freedom.We will also continue to lead the world in efforts to reduce the terrible toll of HIV/AIDS and other infectious diseases.

In building a balance of power that favors freedom, the United States is guided by the conviction that all nations have important responsibilities. Nations that enjoy freedom must actively fight terror. Nations that depend on international stability must help prevent the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Nations that seek international aid must govern themselves wisely, so that aid is well spent. For freedom to thrive, accountability must be expected and required.

We are also guided by the conviction that no nation can build a safer, better world alone. Alliances and multilateral institutions can multiply the strength of freedom-loving nations. The United States is committed to lasting institutions like the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, the Organization of American States, and NATO as well as other long-standing alliances. Coalitions of the willing can augment these permanent institutions. In all cases, international obligations are to be taken seriously. They are not to be undertaken symbolically to rally support for an ideal without furthering its attainment.

Freedom is the non-negotiable demand of human dignity; the birthright of every person—in every civilization. Throughout history, freedom has been threatened by war and terror; it has been challenged by the clashing wills of powerful states and the evil designs of tyrants; and it has been tested by widespread poverty and disease. Today, humanity holds in its hands the opportunity to further freedom’s triumph over all these foes. The United States welcomes our responsibility to lead in this great mission.

George W. Bush
September 17, 2002

Thank you for posting the policy, this is very good policy. It seems this policy has not been implemented regarding Iran in past 3 years, why?
Please educate us.

Oppenheimer wrote:

now you asked why Mr. Bush had not met with RP or any other opposition group....

One thing's for sure...he's have to invite everyone...else some would feel snubbed (with the possible exception of the MEK for still being on the list of terrorist org's...which would preclude such a meeting by law)

SMCCDI suggested a roundtable "forum of the future" and it's a hell of an idea....and a very constructive suggestion.

So, I'll see what I can do to either make that happen, or give you a more concrete answer why it hasn't.

Thank you for following up, it is very important that Iranian American oppositions have an official voice in Washington . SMCCDI suggestion is good. Please let us know if there is a progress regarding this subject.

Thank you for posting the policy, this is very good policy. It seems this policy has not been implemented regarding Iran in past 3 years, why?
Please educate us.

Dear Cyrus,

You are most welcome.

Before I can answer your question regarding perceptions of how this policy HAS NOT been implemented, assuming you have read the entire policy from start to finish (not just the forward) and have noted sections where you feel the policy has not been implemented, it would be best if I knew more specificly in what areas you feel it hasn't, noting the sections in reference so I can better answer the question, and specificly in what ways it has not been implemented (and perhaps suggestion on how it may be).

One thing you may reflect on regarding any US financial assistance to opposition groups is the inherent question that arises, "Who do we dole it out to?" followed by, "how will it be disbursed effectively and accounted for?"

Regarding who gets what, how much, etc. it follows "will such disbursement to SELECTED groups, cause internal friction among the opposition with groups that are not found to be eligable?"

Condi Rice's observation regarding the risk of "crackdown" by the IRI (beyond what it is already doing) is a valid point, as well the related aspect of "does this aid undermine the credibility of such group among the Iranian population, by association with the US?"

I'm not posing these questions as some kind of excuse...these are valid questions I think have been discussed among various opposition groups anticipating such support.

As for IRI reaction, I think my comments to the State Dept. pretty well nailed the parameters down, that "crackdown" was inevitable come hell or high water...as the include article made very clear in support of my comments.

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"Thank you for following up, it is very important that Iranian American oppositions have an official voice in Washington . SMCCDI suggestion is good. Please let us know if there is a progress regarding this subject."

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There are a number of ways Iranian Americans may have official voice...and by "official" I mean "on the record" whether that be by individual through various Congessmen and Senator's constituency services; In direct testimony under oath in Congressional committee by duly appointed leaders of opposition groups; or in the case of SMCCDI's letter to Congress, it generated enough interest that a Congressman requested a shortened version of SMCCDI so that he could read it aloud into the Congressional record (having about 5 minutes to do so) on the floor of the House...(prior to it being sent to the House committee on Foreign relations).

As I understand it, this was the first time the Iranian opposition had been able to submit direct testimony to the United States Congress in their own words.

There's three reasons why as an American, I have a healthy respect for the way SMCCDI and Aryo Pirouznia have gone about the task of presenting the case of the Iranian people.

1. They do not claim to speak for ALL opposition groups, or attempt to become an "umbrella" orginization for others, with set pre-conditions.
Nor does any member seek to obtain political power in a future Iran.

2. Their Charter is in line with the democratic and human rights norms I can feel comfortable with as an American.

3. They seek to foster a constructive dialog, in an inclusive manner with other non-violent opposition groups and Free nation's representitives, regarding the future of Iran.

Food for thought for any opposition group seeking US support....

Mine is but one small voice, but I'll do what I can and let you know Cyrus.

- President of the U.S. Senate:
Honorable Richard Cheney, the US Vice-President
- Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives:
Honorable J. Dennis Hastert
- Chairman of the U.S. Senate on Foreign Relations:
Honorable Richard G. Lugar
- Chairman of the House Committee on International
Relations: Honorable Henry J. Hyde
- Honorable Senators Rick Santorum, John Cornyn, Sam
Brownback & George Allen

Via Fedex and Fax

- Honorable members of the 109th U.S. Congress

Via Fax or E.Mail

Dear Vice President Cheney, Dear Speaker of the House
Hastert, Dear Chairmen of the Foreign Relations Committees,
Dear members of the 109th Congress,

In regards to the people of Iran's legitimate
aspirations for freedom, wishing the following be
considered by the members for sponsorship to be read aloud
for the record, and entered as Congressional testimony:

As prescribed by the U.S. Constitution, President George
W. Bush has, on several occasions definitively outlined
American policy toward the Islamic Republic regime. These
policies of freedom's promise outlined by your respected
President clearly clarify the outstanding issues of the
"Argument of the age" as defined. To the Iranian people he
said, "As you stand for your own liberty, America stands
with you."

On behalf of the "Student Movement Coordination
Committee for Democracy in Iran" (SMCCDI), and the good
people of our nation who have striven so long for freedom,
we wish to extend our most sincere and humble thanks and
gratitude for these words and the support of U.S. Congress
in our long road to liberty.
Know this, that as America stands with the people of
Iran, we stand with America in your fight against terrorism
and tyranny!

For in this struggle we are engaged in, the leaders of
the disreputable and wholly unpopular Islamic Republic
regime are the terrorists in our people's midst, sponsoring
it abroad, conducting it at home, and staining the honor of
our nation with the blood of our citizens, as well as, the
blood of the innocent throughout the entire world.
Indeed, this theocratic entity is engaged in terror,
torture and atrocity on a daily basis, and this
illegitimate regime dares to call itself Democratic, an
advocate of human rights, and protector of the oppressed
throughout the region. A cruel joke added onto the injury
to our nation's pride and heritage.

The horror of this evil regime's hypocrisy, and
methodical atrocities can only be likened to a daily
Auschwitz for the stain it brings on the honor of those who
appease and support and lengthen the life-span of this
barbarian and tyrannical regime through silence, economic
incentive, nuclear fuel negotiations, "engagement" and
illusion, blind or not as they may be of what is taking
place in our country. Nor can the international community,
or any member of any government that holds in their heart
the values of freedom continue to turn their back on the
Iranian people's legitimate aspirations to formulate a new
secular political structure, and call themselves human.

Iran is not Iraq, nor Afghanistan nor China. While the
overwhelming majority of Iranians, most of them young and
educated with thirst of modernity and progress, have passed
the stage of accepting any type of religion mixing with the
affairs of state. They have also become very lucid and are
open critics of any "Chinafication" of Iran where the
governmental ideology will rule unchanged while its foreign
policy and economy will be adapting to foreign governments
requests. The main difference between China and Iran is
that Marxism was an economical ideology and can be adapted
or end when the regime needs but the Islamist ideology by
its essence is supposedly emanating from God and is by
nature restrictive and against individuals rightful
aspirations to freedom by trying to anchor them in precepts
inherited from 14 centuries ago.

Respected Senators and Representatives of the great
American Nation,

The Islamic Republic regime cannot be reformed in whole
or in part by any referendum while the regime sits in power
able to manipulate the outcome, nor can the regime be
caused to abandon its blind nuclear ambition through the
"carrot" of WTO ascension and other European "economic
incentives".

This honorable body of the elected is not blinded by
illusion of propaganda the Islamic Republic regime has
tried to create, and we wish to illustrate the alarming
results of eight years of demagogy and sham "reforms from
within", and to caution the U.S. Congress regarding any
proposed Congressional testimony from former regime
theoreticians or members of regime promoted religious
student bodies. Indeed these 'former' supporters, involved
in selling the sham reforms scenario and buying time for
the shaky theocracy, have only recently 'joined' the
opposition and they do not represent the majority of the
Iranian people who wish for a totally new form of
secular-democratic and progressist political structure
without the backwarded mullahs and their technocrats
involved in any way.

The only way our people can regain our honor and the
world its trust for a WMD-free Iran that seeks to provide a
safer future for the world is by providing us, the people
of Iran, the support for our legitimate aspirations of
liberty and the tools necessary to take back the land that
Cyrus the Great brought Democracy to over 2500 years ago.
Honor demands that we do this of our own accord, and with
the proper tools provided by this elected body of free men
and women which is the U.S. Congress, as well as the
President's noble foreign policy, and with the tools
provided by the international community through the
auspices of the UN, we will ultimately succeed.
Primary among those tools we seek is the rule of
international law, as provided by the resolutions on human
rights, state sponsors of terrorism and terrorist financing
already in place within the UN in various resolutions, and
mandated by the Security Council.

The prayers of suggestion included in SMCCDI's letter to
the honorable George W. Bush (Jan. 27, 2005:
http://www.daneshjoo.org/article/publish/article_3270.shtml)
contains the full list of international tools the Iranian
people need to solve the problem that plagues all of us.
None of which include military intervention, or arms sales
to any faction of the opposition movement within or outside
Iran.

We are not blinded by the difficulties involved with
civil disobedience in stopping the functioning of the
Islamic Republic, but those here who would have doubt of
the current leadership's ability or the people's will must
remember your own history of civil disobedience that
changed the fabric of your nation, protecting the rights of
all it's citizens.
We remember Gandhi's march, the Gdansk shipyards, the
Velvet revolution, the Rose revolution, and all the
non-violent change that has been brought about through
these non-violent methods throughout history. These leaders
of civil disobedience were mostly unknown in their
beginnings, just as the publicly unknowns of many uprisings
led in anonymity the localized events in these national
revolutions that have changed the world for the better. So
it is among all grass roots movements.

We ask that this letter to U.S. Congress, as well as the
letter to President Bush be considered in equal measure to
provide proper perspective to you on the issues, for it is
our firm belief that only after the Islamic regime is
removed by the Iranian people can a genuine UN monitored
referendum, and new political structure be properly debated
and chosen by the people.

Honorable members of the 109th U.S. Congress,

Many resolutions have come before you on matters of
human rights, terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and weapons
development over the years. In particular, the "Iran
Democracy Act", that the honorable Senator Sam Brownback
introduced On May 19, 2003., supporting the right of the
Iranian people to choose their own government. The
legislation to be considered,
contained within the "Iran Freedom and Support Act",
introduced by the honorable Senator Rick Santorum and
endorsed by Senator John Cornyn and some of your fellow
colleagues, follows on these measures.

The honorable George W. Bush, your president, has said
many times that "We owe it to our children and our
children's children to free the world from weapons of mass
destruction in the hands of those who hate freedom." No one
knows the truth of these words more than the people of our
nation who have the most to lose should this become
manifest in the hands of the mullahs, and their terrorist
allies.

On behalf of the "Student Movement Coordination
Committee for Democracy in Iran" (SMCCDI), and the good
people of our nation who have striven so long for freedom,
we call upon all members of this great elected body of
Democracy, to approve the "Iran Freedom and Support Act" in
a vote of unanimous consent. We hope that this bill will be
endorsed and/or co-sponsored by a overwhelming majority,
with both Democrat and Republican adding their names in
bi-partisan support for our aspirations of liberty.
Such supportive action will provide the tools we need to
free not only our children and grandchildren, but the
world's as well, from the dangers posed to all by the
Islamic Republic regime.

Many among you view the word's "regime change" in
different ways, and in different manifestations. The
proposals outlined in SMCCDI's letter to president Bush may
not require this Congress to debate this phrase that causes
so much controversy, primarily as we have proposed "regime
change" the Iranian way, as they are essentially Iranian
solutions by, for and of, the Iranian people. But these
solutions may serve as well to create a better world for
the sake of all people in their success, and we believe
they merit America's strong and solid support.
We believe they will work to provide a better home for
all our children and grandchildren to live in, and for the
entire region. It has already begun in Iran, now the
solution needs the world's support and resolve as well. The
"Iran Freedom and Support Act" is part and parcel to this.

With this elected body's firm unanimous voice, and the
resolve of the U.S. President and his Secretary of State;
Supporting the measures proposed to be tabled and ratified
in the UN as outlined in SMCCDI's proposals, and the
formation of a roundtable of opposition groups and
international representatives; The coordination of economic
and military sanction, freezing of assets, closing of
embassies, banishment from the UN, and other non-violent
measures as may be found worthy under international law
will be overwhelming to the Islamic republic regime, and
it's demise will happen in a fairly short time.

The Mullahs are on life support, and the machine that
keeps them alive is their vast financial holdings, the
Revolutionary Guard and the absence of a unified
international stand against this evil regime, politically
and economically.
Many rank and file military will join the people of
Iran, having no loyalty but their families and to a
paycheck which is never on time. As the infrastructure of
the economy sit idle, the regime will have to take from
what's left of the guard to run it, and thereby leaving the
streets to the people. We believe we can remove the regime
without undo bloodshed, for we wish not for the future to
be stained with the blood of civil war.
In the end, the only stain we wish to have upon us, is
a purple one on everyone's index finger held up in a "V".

On this path of liberty America has been given the task
to promote, may all the members of U.S. Congress, as well
as, all free nations support each other in common cause,
let not your doubts or differences blind you to the correct
path when the fork in the road is before you, seek not to
point fingers at one another in confusion and doubt as to
which road to take. Heed not the confusion sown by those
who would place that shadow of doubt at the feet of
freedom.
In this great world endeavor of freedom the U.S.
President has put forth, let all people of the world
remember why our feet point forward (to walk upright) and
why our eyes are at the front of our heads (to not look
backwards while walking).
For even as the shadows of doubt follows in the bright
light of the truth, do not seek to look at the shadow that
is cast behind lest it cause a people to stumble and
falter.
When the shadow of doubt lies in the path ahead, let
sturdy feet trample it with reason. And when the shadow of
doubt is cast beside the path, do not turn aside to speak
to it, lest it deceive and delay the reaching of the
"undiscovered country".

On behalf of the "Student Movement Coordination
Committee for Democracy in Iran" (SMCCDI), and the good
people of our nation who have striven so long for freedom,
we ask simply that every one of you in the 109th U.S.
Congress stand united with us now, not as Democrat or
Republican, nor even as Americans per se, but simply as
Humans. For that, and the hope of liberty is what binds all
people together in unity.

Had a chat today with someone knowlegable about current Congressional actions, and as you know this bill is in the Foreign Relations Committee of the Senate.

Her "gut" (as she put it) was that the lack of movement was not due to administration request, (as repoted, and she dismissed that report out of hand), but due primarily with changed circumstance regarding Iran itself ("elections" etc.). That given the circumstance surrounding the recent IAEA decision, the bill would not move out of committee (and the next four weeks is the time-line for that if it were to happen in this session of Congress).

The bill will in all probability be re-introduced in the new Congress come January, (post November IAEA board meeting) and may contain revision as circumstance dictates.

It is possible, but not probable that the bill will make it out of committee before then ( in the next 4 weeks) and be put on the floor for debate.

"not likely" she said, so there should be no expectation this year, given the rapidly changing circumstance, and pending IAEA meeting.

This may be disapointing to Iranians, but my "gut" tells me that it will be reintroduced with much stronger language and measures of support.
Depending on what the IRI does between now and then, if it continues to defy the international community, and referal by the IAEA to the UN Sec Council.

A lot can happen between now and then, depending on what the IRI does, or does not do, totally aside from Congressional legislation.

Dear Oppenheimer,
Thank you for information. My answer to some of your questions and concerns are as follows:

Oppenheimer wrote:

One thing you may reflect on regarding any US financial assistance to opposition groups is the inherent question that arises, "Who do we dole it out to?" followed by, "how will it be disbursed effectively and accounted for?"

Regarding who gets what, how much, etc. it follows "will such disbursement to SELECTED groups, cause internal friction among the opposition with groups that are not found to be eligable?"

Very good question, in order to avoid any problems and be fair among oppositions my recommendations are as follows:
Before releasing any fund, the Iranian American National Congress and leadership election is the key to many concerns by U.S. officials. Due to the fact that over million Iranians are scattered in U.S. therefore it is difficult task and a big help if the U.S government directly and openly provide resources to setup a fair election among the Iranian American Candidates who believe in the principles defined below and wish to work full time for freeing their homeland. Such an election might cost 50 million dollars considering advertising cost in U.S. Media.

The constituents of the Iranian American National Congress and Leadership outside Iran In USA will be all those organizations and individuals who believe in the following 7 Articles
1. Territorial integrity and national sovereignty of Iran.
2. Complete separation of religion from the State;
3. Acceptance of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
4. Free, open and democratic referendum to elect the type of the new Government of Iran in the post-IRI era
5. Minimum standard of living for all citizens of Iran and equal opportunity for all citizens to benefit from country’s national wealth.
6. The “War On Terror” is UNWINNABLE and the world peace can not be achieved as long as the Unelected Islamists Terror and Torture Masters are in power in Iran. The terror state and fear society can not create stability.
7. Iranian people can decide about Nuclear Engery and Atomic Bomb after the regime change when they have established secular democracy and Free society untill then Iran can not have any kind of Nuclear program under Islamist regime control.

After an election the U.S. should allocate and provide funds or release part of the frozen Iranian assets to the elected Iranian American National Congress for regime change in Iran and pay salary to these elected Iranians or Americans by over million Iranian American community who should be working full time in Washington for Freeing their homeland.

Oppenheimer wrote:

Condi Rice's observation regarding the risk of "crackdown" by the IRI (beyond what it is already doing) is a valid point, as well the related aspect of "does this aid undermine the credibility of such group among the Iranian population, by association with the US?"

Due to the fact that U.S. is not a colonial power, Islamist regime in Iran is a terror regime and has no legitimacy therefore groups that receive grants openly from U.S. government for establishing Free Society, secular democracy and human rights in Iran does not undermine their credibility as long as it is done openly. Iranians of today under Islamist control are not the same as Iranians of 50 years ago.