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Topic: Electrinium (Read 193390 times)

Maybe he was drunk or high . Btw don't local glass formers (if you have a local one at least) have high temperature ovens? Maybe some deal could be done to make this under some personal science project disguise .

yes, i was drunk and high

sorry resonanceman, in the electrinium there is a gearing system to push or pull the crystal while it is growing, that's right

when i saw some gearing to push a cristallizing crystal in electrinium, i do not care, i forgot, cause i focus on a very little system to cristallize something more simple than the compicated receipe

i have grown many crystals, and i look to a simple way to test the theory of the electrinium, i look for a very short cristallization, (with no gear), just little electrinium crystal with steel, something easy for all to proove the theory

and i am proud of you all trying the complex method, i prefer to test it in a simple way

the wine was red De Noiret, and the high was an homemade vegetable...

sorry resonanceman, in fact i was going to sleep right after my above post

So guys besides the talking where does this bring us now? What can we start that is already possible without needing fancy tools. Maybe at least the collection of the ingredients, the container and/or an electrification setup that would align the molecules.

I wish I was high. I have been denying my habits for spiritual enlightenment.

Resonanceman, the reason the silicon mixture is pulled and not cast is because you want a crystalline structure to grow. If you extrude the mixture through a tube is you basically get a glass structure which is almost crystalline instead of a quartz structure which is a real crystal. The molten silicon is the viscosity of a dense clay. Imagine when you have seen molten glass being worked. It is a red hot mass of puddy which is very hard to work. The crucible would have to be continuously heated and a blast of cool air would allow the top of the mass to begin to solidify, this is where you stick the seed, and begin pulling the cooling crystal out of the crucible. Electrinium will have a little different characteristics. There will be iron, silver and borozon in the mixture as well. This will change the melting point, the melted viscosity, the cooling rate and the pull rate. All of these variables are unknown at the moment and the precise ratio of elements is also unknown. We would have to make our best guess, run a batch and test it. Then do it again and again and again and again....

Drannom's idea about using carbon and iron (steel) to do this is intriguing. We can go to the hardware store and buy steel, no need to fabricate it. To activate, and align, the iron carbon molecules we would need to apply a direct current to a piece of steel. Then heat it up to the point where the molecules are mobile enough to reorient themselves. When the molecules align they will start to conduct. Mr. Summera said that when the material starts to conduct current we would need to remove the direct current and attach a load resistor. The resistor can be attached at the beginning of the process, then when the material starts to conduct then we simply remove the direct current source. Then allow the material to cool with the load resistor attached. Once the material is cool then the molecules are set and the steel becomes a permanent battery.

There are also other materials which have the same properties. You would basically pick and element and find its polar opposite then bond them together in a process. Some may be easier to work with than the Electrinium. I am not a chemical engineer so picking those materials is not my area, Drannom may be better at doing that. I am more of a manufacturing engineer. I develop processes where we can mass replicate something, usually electronics and electronic products.

Batteries are the cheapest, easiest, most profitable, and least environmentally friendly way of exploiting the phenomena of elemental duality. They produce electricity for a limited time and then they are used up, have to be recharged and thrown away. If a little more thought was put into the battery it could be a powerful energy source. I know why this was not done, Profitability. Profit ruled the 20th century. If a company started making batteries that never wore out that would hurt future sales. This is a very selfish and shortsighted point of view, but I can understand it. The same thing happened with many manufactured products. So there is a massive body of information on batteries and we can glean from that body of information everything we need to make permanent batteries...

So guys besides the talking where does this bring us now? What can we start that is already possible without needing fancy tools. Maybe at least the collection of the ingredients, the container and/or an electrification setup that would align the molecules.

Broli

I don't know anything about chemistry ......I will have to trust others to that.I am good at finding visualizing and basic mechanical design . I am good at finding ways to get machines to do what it is needed .

I do think there is a lot of potential in ElectriniumI do think that a proof of concept experiment would be very valuable .....even if it didn't put out much power.

A few general questions for all.

When they make glass fibers for optical networking they deposit the glass in a different form I don't remember what they call it .......but it is white and chalky . As I understand there are different impurities in different parts of this form.

they then heat the whole thing up and it fuses into a clear mass of glass. When they draw the fibers the impurity's keep the same cross section so they can have different optical characteristics in the core of the fiber than in the outer part.

Can something like this be done when making Electrinium?

Electrinium requires an electric current to align the molecules in the final step . Is there a way to add an electric current to the crystallizing process ?

Could adding a current flow make any of the possible combination's materials more practical?

I read somewhere that if you electroplate layers of different metals thin enough on the same object the coating will mimic a solid alloy Could an Electrinium crystal be grown in layers like that?

If we align the Electrinium molecules during the crystal growing process then we have a massive activated crystal that we would need to be sliced up to make the wafers for the batteries. This would be hazardous. It is better to activate the Electrinium after the batteries have been manufactured.

The electroplating process is intriguing. You basically build the battery one molecular layer at a time. Semiconductors are manufactured in this methodology. Where you start with a silicon substrate and build the circuit from the bottom up one layer at a time...

Resonanceman, the reason the silicon mixture is pulled and not cast is because you want a crystalline structure to grow. If you extrude the mixture through a tube is you basically get a glass structure which is almost crystalline instead of a quartz structure which is a real crystal. The molten silicon is the viscosity of a dense clay.

Z Monkey

That is good . So the tube Idea could work.All the ingredients could be melted and cast into plugs that fit inside a tube.

The lower section of tube ( inside the heat box ) would act as a preheaterA drive similar to a harmonic drive would push the plugs into the tube at a certain speed.

The tube would have to extend though the oven. Once the silicon got hot enough it would it would leave the oven and at some point past the oven cryrstal puling would start. ( using a second harmonic drive set at a specific speed. )

I would think that having a heat box around the oven and keeping it near the melting point would make the whole process less critical. In other words .......the silicon would be near melting point before it reached the oven ........and it would hold the right temperature for pulling longer than if a lower air temp was chosen .

If we align the Electrinium molecules during the crystal growing process then we have a massive activated crystal that we would need to be sliced up to make the wafers for the batteries. This would be hazardous. It is better to activate the Electrinium after the batteries have been manufactured.

If the Electrinium can be activated during crystal growth I would think that we would have a whole different process.........probably more like an assembly line of smaller crystals

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The electroplating process is intriguing. You basically build the battery one molecular layer at a time. Semiconductors are manufactured in this methodology. Where you start with a silicon substrate and build the circuit from the bottom up one layer at a time...

wouldn't it be great if it was as simple as doping layers of silicon with the right stuff? It could lead to things like self powered electronic chips

gary

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For the people that could not find the appendix page 83, I took some captures from the pdf and pasted them into paint, then converted them into jpg. (The important thhing here is the battery formula this man used)

Jesus

This damn thing always says that the size is not correct or that I already sent this post. I will keep trying.

For the people that could not find the appendix page 83, I took some captures from the pdf and pasted them into paint, then converted them into jpg. (The important thhing here is the battery formula this man used)

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For the people that could not find the appendix page 83, I took some captures from the pdf and pasted them into paint, then converted them into jpg. (The important thhing here is the battery formula this man used)

For the people that could not find the appendix page 83, I took some captures from the pdf and pasted them into paint, then converted them into jpg. (The important thhing here is the battery formula this man used)

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

For the people that could not find the appendix page 83, I took some captures from the pdf and pasted them into paint, then converted them into jpg. (The important thhing here is the battery formula this man used)

That is it!Maybe they are repeated, but it is not my fault. The damn machine kept saying or that the graphic was larger than 100kb or that I already had posted it. So I went back two screens and click reply, then start it all over again and again, till I got the 8 graphics reduced with I_view32 posted.I do expect that the battery formula from this guy be of help in the pursued electrinium goal.

I just thought that the formula was great to make a hardened battery with the process of putting a current through it to get the molecules aligned. as the electrinium pdf file says. Not the whole machinem just the formula ingredients. It is my mistake then!