Trump is doing everything he said he would — except on Israel

‘THIS LAND BELONGS TO US!’

Donald Trump is only two weeks into his presidency and yet he’s alarmed much of the world for doing exactly what he said he would as the unorthodox and pugnacious candidate that shockingly won the election.

He signed an executive order that initiated his plan to build a wall along America’s southern border. He began the process of repealing Obamacare. And he signed a highly controversial immigration order that bans all refugee resettlement from seven Muslim-majority nations for 90 days and forbids those from war-ravaged Syria from entering the country indefinitely.

During the campaign, one commentator famously observed that Trump appealed to millions of Americans who took him “seriously, but not literally.” After 14 days in the Oval Office, however, it’s become evident that it was not unwise to take him literally after all.

Except on one issue.

Trump, the presidential hopeful, vowed to make a radical departure from the Israel policies Republicans so loathed in Barack Obama. He told a crowd of roughly 18,000 at last year’s AIPAC’s policy conference that he would move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, dismantle the Iran nuclear accord, and send “a clear signal that there is no daylight between America and our most reliable ally.”

In December, after the Obama administration allowed passage of a United Nations Security resolution that condemned Israeli settlements as illegal and an obstacle to peace, he tweeted to Israelis that “things would be different” when he took over as commander in chief.

And yet Trump, the president, has thus far been uncomfortable delivering on the full-fledged shift toward the US-Israel relationship he intimated would be a cornerstone of his foreign policy.

In the last two weeks, he has backed off on his pledge to relocate the embassy, saying that, while there’s “a chance” his administration will make the move, the decision was “not easy” and there are “two sides” to the conflict. He agreed with Saudi Arabia’s King Salman to “rigorously” enforce the Iran deal rather than dismantle it.

And on Thursday, he warned Israel for the first time, albeit mildly, against expanding its settlement presence in the West Bank — something his press secretary said “may not be helpful” to achieving peace after Israel approved 5,500 units in the contested area and announced it will build an entirely new settlement for the first time in a quarter-century.

It is certainly not fair to say that he has adopted the Obama playbook. The Trump White House has both said it does not believe “the existence of settlements is an impediment to peace” but also that it “has not taken an official position on settlement activity.”

Obama, for his part, was adamant on the need to confront the issue using more unequivocal rhetoric. “Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel’s right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine’s,” he said in his famous 2009 Cairo speech to the Muslim world. “The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements. This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace.”

“It is time for these settlements to stop,” he added. “It is time for us to act on what everyone knows to be true.”

But Trump does seem to be heeding the advice his predecessor left him. In his final press conference, Obama was asked about Trump’s apparent intention to upend decades of US policy on the Jewish state — a sense reflected largely in the choice of David Friedman, a vocal supporter and donor to West Bank settlements, as the next US envoy to Israel, in an announcement that came with a suggestion they would follow through on moving the embassy.

The outgoing president, in response, noted that the Middle East is “a volatile environment,” and sent the message to Trump: “If you’re going to make big shifts in policy, just make sure you’ve thought it through and understand that there are going to be consequences.”

‘If you’re going to make big shifts in policy, just make sure you’ve thought it through’

Many have wondered these last two weeks whether Trump really “thought through” the possible repercussions of a travel ban that risks inflaming anti-American hostility in the Middle East, of continuing his early morning tweets, of admonishing the Australian prime minister, the leader of one of America’s most enduring and reliable allies.

Some have noted that Trump’s management style may well be to instigate chaos, an environment he thrived under as a candidate and that continued through the transition and now the nascent presidency.

He’s demonstrated much more caution, however, toward trying to accomplish the “ultimate deal,” as he calls it, of brokering peace between Israelis and Palestinians than he has with other areas of policy.

When Prime Minister Netanyahu comes to Washington on February 15, he may find a president inclined to give him more leeway on settlements than Obama did, but not absolute freedom of action.

The White House statement Thursday warned against “the construction of new settlements or the expansion of existing settlements beyond their current borders,” language that indicates an acceptance of building inside the so-called blocs Israel expects to retain under any accord.

That posture aligns with an agreement George W. Bush forged with Ariel Sharon in 2004, in which the former president said “it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final-status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.”

And it also gives Netanyahu the shield he needs from the right-wing members of his base who have demanded more construction since Trump took office. Shortly after the Republican won last November, MK Naftali Bennett declared “the era of the Palestinian state is over.”

But Trump does seem motivated to accomplish the elusive goal of Israeli-Palestinian peace; he’s floated the idea of having his closest confidante and Orthodox Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner serve as a special envoy on that effort and has shown himself reluctant to take any steps that could undermine that outcome.

Israelis who thought Trump would rein in a highly dramatic “new era” may have to start questioning how much of his campaign they should have taken seriously, but not quite literally.

LD: The article above must be taken with a pinch of salt. Obama told the Israelis in no uncertain terms to stop building settlements. They knew very well he was saying this only for form’s sake and that “Stop building settlements” actually meant: “You don’t have do what I say; and if you continue to build settlements, there’s nothing America will do to stop you.”

It seems Trump is taking exactly the same line. Only he is even likely to be far more sympathetic to Israel than Obama, given is friendly relations with Benjamin Netanyahu and the fact his chief negotiators in Palestine are all Zionst Jews.

Here is an extended comment by Jason Ditz that explains the situation:

Israeli officials seemed less surprised by the comments, deciding that they’re going to officially interpret the comments as a full endorsement of continued settlement expansion, amounting to giving the Israeli government “carte blanche” to build as they wish with no restrictions.

How they were told “stop” and heard “go” appears to be related to previous statements from President Obama, which Trump’s statement yesterday closely mirrored. Israeli officials saw the Trump statement as softer in tone than Obama’s calls for Israel to stop building settlements, and are therefore presenting it as a net win. After all, it’s not like Obama did much of anything about Israel’s reckless expansion of settlements, and after this statement, Israel seems to reason Trump is liable to do even less.

The Jerusalem Post has also revealed that, contrary to earlier reports which said that the Israeli government had announced the building of 3,000 new Jews-only housing units since Trump took office, the true figure was actually over 5,500.

So Trump is already aware that the Israelis are not only cheerfully ignoring his requests to stop expanding settlements but that they are actually building far more housing units than they say they are.

So why isn’t he stopping them? — Because clearly he has no intention of doing so.

THE THEFT OF PALESTINE — WITH AMERICAN HELP AND CONNIVANCE

“The rules of the game have changed with Donald Trump’s arrival as president,” Meir Turgeman, Jerusalem’s deputy mayor, told the AFP news agency. “We no longer have our hands tied as in the time of Barack Obama. Now we can finally build.”

It seems Trump is the perfect president for Israel. The Israelis can now steal the last inch of Palestinian land, with the full blessing of America’s new president. [LD]

44 thoughts to “Trump is doing everything he said he would — except on Israel”

As I said before, Trump’s policy will not change the Palestinian situation substantially, only the language will change. Even the relocation of the US embassy to Jerusalem (a purely symbolic act) might be postponed or even cancelled.

What we should be concerned about is the ever more aggressive tone toward Iran and China, both entirely unjustified. It is not clear what Trump tries to accomplish with an eventual war against Iran. No American interest would be served by that. If it comes to that, we will have to conclude that he was an agent for Israel’s Likud party all along and that his much praised American “patriotism” was only a ruse to get him elected.

Allow me to disagree Franklin, Trump has US traditional interest in mind when he threatens Yemen, Iran or Russia with Crimea. The main problem with US economy is the shale oil bubble and the fact that it is no longer possible to extract significant quantity of fossil energies without an increasing amount of debts. Financial system and energetic system are intimately related and both are about to explode in a near future.https://ourfiniteworld.com/2014/08/14/energy-and-the-economy-twelve-basic-principles/

So if Trump wants to bring the Jobs the back, the machines eating energies controlling our productions in reality, and starts US economic reconversion, he needs a vast amount of oil, especially when China starts to develop balanced relationship with the main producers with a low energy return on energy invested energy like Iran, as they did in Sudan with Omar al-Bashir before the emergency Clooney partition. It could also triggers vast migration of population towards Europe with a dramatic surge in food prices, like 2008 in 35 countries, the Arab Facebook Springs you know, from Egypt subsidized by Saudis money via Lybia for example, and prevent any cordiale entente between European technology and Russia/China. That’s the path Trump wants to follow it seems, the England path, the throne of War path.

Bad omen last night with the victory of the New-England Patriots, I was cheering for Dirty South Falcons.
What about the New American Patriots for Donald to make America great once and for all? Without Lady Gaga but with Mel Gibson and Tchéky Karyo, no more cheating à la Belichik. NFL should be called NHL, and NHL renamed FQHL.

So new england won, huh?
thanks for telling me, i will try to remember when dragged into a chat with some local gringo.
was going to watch but reading “history of wooden duck carvings in Omaha” was such a potboiler by comparison, I simply couldn’t resist the suspense.

did you say new england won? and belichik is an asshole?
good to know, it will raise my social status mile high.

2017 is shaping up to be a highly interesting year, lots of war fun, we will listen to Jew screams every non-shabbat night that goyums genocide is behind schedule, oh how jew suffers, goy gevalt and … who did you say won the super bowel?

Ducks in Omaha, that’s funny, do you still endorse Trump? He is such a downer on Iran, maybe he is kidding and tries to spot the traitors in the administration before the purge.
I don’t know about Belichik, I just heard through the Hollywood grapevine that he was cheating with numbers or tactics. I don’t watch NFL or American sports, too much patriotism on steroids, time outs, statistics and commercials. I just watch five minutes resume on You tube, mostly Basket-Ball, a decent popular sport where you don’t need tons of equipment, but you know how popular B-Ball is in Yugoslavia, watch out for Nikola Jokić, he is the new Vlade Divac. The thing I remember most about USA is how much people were talking about sports and numbers, hockey stats, season homerun records for Grand Rapid Whitecaps, take me out to the ball game 5 hours a week to sing the national anthem after a 2 hours ride. Here is a good article by Chomsky, half-good, about sport fans.http://www.alternet.org/noam-chomsky-why-americans-know-so-much-about-sports-so-little-about-world-affairs

.Pat,
Bofbof, way to PC for me. The thing I don’t understand with the NBA I like so much is why the commissioner is always a skinny little Jew like David Silver who couldn’t make a hoop if his life depends on it, when all the wealth is created mostly by Afro-Americans who can jump. Too bad NBA players are not Marxists like Sankara capable of going on strike to hire smart conscientious lawyers to require NBA to reinvest the money they generate into the Hood they come from instead of wasting it with lawyers, white women and Lamborghini like dumb HBO Miami Ballers. To make NBA great again, just send Kevin Durant scary ass to the Pelicans. By the way, OJ Simpson is objectively an Uncle Tom, even Kardashian admitted it.

.Harold,
By US traditional interest, I am talking about preserving a certain lifestyle based on road transportation and cheap oil. Communism, capitalism, same bureaucratic concentration of power, the second one is just less ecological and based on debts and desires.

“It is not clear what Trump tries to accomplish with an eventual war against Iran. No American interest would be served by that.”

It’s never about American interests, it’s always “is it goot fer Jews?” Put in that context, the mud of lies clears, clarifying and exposing the issue for its true intent. Think about it, the last stable country in that region is Iran. If Jews can destabilize Iran as they have Iraq, Egypt, Syria and the rest of the countries, that will leave Israel as the last stable government in the region and the only one with an arsenal of nuclear weapons with which to impose their dictatorial hegemony. Once Jews have achieved that, they will control the lion’s share of the world’s oil reserves and one can easily imagine what the price of oil will do at that point.

There are never good results when a POTUS is forced to choose sides – not for anyone involved. He/she will also take flack for maintaining neutrality. It is a ‘no-win’ situation for Palestine, Israhell, Iran, and USA. The longer Trump stalls, the longer we’ll avoid war. Act, and it begins. We’re screwed! 🙁

Trump and Nazinyahu have too much in common. They both have been caught red-handed cheating on their wives. Both told their mistresses, “I wish I would have met you first. I never would have married her.”

This update has just been added to the end of the article by LD — a sort of clincher:

“The rules of the game have changed with Donald Trump’s arrival as president,” Meir Turgeman, Jerusalem’s deputy mayor, told the AFP news agency. “We no longer have our hands tied as in the time of Barack Obama. Now we can finally build.”

It seems Trump is the perfect president for Israel. The Israelis can now steal the last inch of Palestinian land, with the full blessing of America’s new president.

I guess the only ones who can now go on backing Donald Trump are the ones who don’t give a damn for the Palestinians.

Since they don’t give a damn for the plunder of Palestine and the systematic slaughter of innocent women and children in Gaza and the West Bank — and these future war crimes against the Palestinians are guaranteed — I sincerely hope these morally bankrupt Americans who continue to back Trump will get their karmic comeuppance in America.

Let’s see how these swinish White Nationalists have the smiles wiped off their faces as the Jews put them through the meat grinder in America! And it will come, believe me. Let these fllthy bastards pay the full price for their contempt of international law and their betrayal of the Palestinian people.

Eloquent words, Sardonicus! I am with you all the way. If these White Nationalist scum think conditions in America are likely to improve for them just by letting their hero Trump shit all over the Palestinians, they have a guess coming!

The Jews will control them all the more, in a vice of iron, for it is not difficult to control Judas slaves. If these American White Nationalists had been men of honor, they might have triumphed over the Jews and wrested power back from them. But they are not men of honor, as their betrayal of Palestine clearly demonstrates.

So there is no hope for them. And so I too pray that they receive the punishment of all natural born slaves: more servitude under the Jewish heel.

I see the Trumpster fraudster as a nuclear-armed Anders Breivik.
And the Jews have calculatingly “poisoned the well” in the sense that anyone who criticizes the Trumpster fraudster is framed as being on Soros’ team of degenerates.

What sort of reparations are you two doing for Germany, you ‘honorable’ screamers??
It’s easy for your type of armchair critics to take issue against American interests. I’ll wager that neither of you could survive one week without your Jew-controlled currency – so no one will ever witness your bold participation in the fight. Germany bled more than Palestine, so what are you doing about your noble vengeance?? You remind me of the fucking libtards always hollering about ‘justice’ and ‘equality’, but can or will do nothing when the rubber-meets-the-road…

I agree with the always eloquent and trenchant Sardonicus. Constance Berlin does well to praise him for his high-principled support for the Palestinians.

As a White Nationalist for the last 20 years, I must say I was heartened by the arrival on the scene of Donald Trump. But I will cease to support Trump as soon as he behaves dishonorably. He looks as if he is about to behave dishonorably in regard to Palestine. Therefore, as far as I’m concerned, my support for Trump is conditional.

As soon as he hands over Palestine as a pretty bauble to the Jews, that will be the day I will not only turn my back on Trump but will have nothing more to do with the White Nationalists who support him.

I have no wish to support a Zionist betrayer of the Palestinians any more than I’d wish to support a psychopathic serial killer.

What sort of reparations are you two doing for Germany, you ‘honorable’ screamers??

Listen, Gilbert. You’re not going to get anywhere making such ridiculous comments. Nowhere have I mentioned the word “Germany” even ONCE in any of my recent comments!

You are assuming foolishly that I am pro-Merkel and pro-immigrant. What gave you this silly idea? I am absolutely against the invasion of Germany by Third World migrants, most of them from Syria, Iraq, North Africa and other Muslim countries. In this I take exactly the same line as Lasha Darkmoon.

My views on the invasion of Germany by hordes of Muslim “refugees” is exactly the same as yours, dear Gilbert. I don’t like it! And I support the alt.Right groups that are against this mass invasion of Germany by foreigners.

It’s easy for your type of armchair critics to take issue against American interests. I’ll wager that neither of you could survive one week without your Jew-controlled currency – so no one will ever witness your bold participation in the fight. Germany bled more than Palestine, so what are you doing about your noble vengeance?? You remind me of the fucking libtards always hollering about ‘justice’ and ‘equality’, but can or will do nothing when the rubber-meets-the-road…

Have you been drinking? Me, a “fucking libtard”? I really feel sorry to see you get your knickers in a twist in this unseemly way. What makes you think I am against Donald Trump, your hero? I supported him initially just like you did! I was totally against the horrible Hillary. If Trump wants to ban Muslims from seven Muslim countries, I’m not stopping him or saying that’s wrong. Mahmoud is saying that. Not ME! 🙂

I wish Trump would go further and call a moratorium on ALL immigration, not just Muslim immigration from 7 countries. I wish he could start deporting illegal immigrants en masse. If he could boot out six million American Jews and deport them all to Israel, that would solve the entire immigration problem. Wouldn’t you like to see America handed back to its indigenous White population and taken out of the hands of the Jews?

It’s not the Muslims, Gilbert, who own your media and run your entertainment and porn industry; it’s the Jews. It wasn’t the Muslims who attacked America on 9/11; it was the Jews. So I advise you to focus your anger on the Jews and not the Muslims! 🙂

You and I hold very similar views, Gilbert. Consider this very reasonable comment by this new poster with a weird foreign name. This could have been my comment.

Isn’t it a reasonable comment?

KLAUS CIESZKOWSKI: As a White Nationalist for the last 20 years, I must say I was heartened by the arrival on the scene of Donald Trump. But I will cease to support Trump as soon as he behaves dishonorably. He looks as if he is about to behave dishonorably in regard to Palestine. Therefore, as far as I’m concerned, my support for Trump is conditional.

As soon as he hands over Palestine as a pretty bauble to the Jews, that will be the day I will not only turn my back on Trump but will have nothing more to do with the White Nationalists who support him.

I have no wish to support a Zionist betrayer of the Palestinians any more than I’d wish to support a psychopathic serial killer.

My support for Trump, dear Gilbert, is conditional. If he betrays Palestine, he will lose my support. He will have my support only as long as he behaves honorably.

Excellent comments, Sardonicus, Constance et al. Nothing good will ever come from betraying people to the Jewish crocodile. These creatures bestride the planet as if the world owes them a living. Sardonicus mentioned Karma, believe me, any country, or people that counsel, procure, aid and abet the Jews in their criminal endeavours to enslave and corrupt humanity will reap, in full the blood curse, which the Jews incurred when they murdered Jesus. They’ve been given two thousand years to repent, or evince any indication of remorse. So far, nada! Well good luck Jew and quasi-Jew you’re going to need it.

From the article here:
“Donald Trump is only two weeks into his presidency and yet he’s alarmed much of the world for doing exactly what he said he would as the unorthodox and pugnacious candidate that shockingly won the election.”

Here is one action Trump is taking which he never mentioned while campaigning which will help US increase money supply and Israel will benefit with more funds available. WIN-WIN for US banks and Israel:

Trump plans to undo the Dodd-Frank law Fiduciary Rule. American Bankers Association, ABA, in a statement, praises him for it.

“We APPRECIATE the administration’s support for pro-growth policies so BANKS can go even FURTHER in helping communities and our economy thrive,” said Rob Nichols, president of the American Bankers Association, in a statement.

“A sensible and careful review of Dodd-Frank and other financial regulations can and should strengthen those goals while unleashing the power of the banking industry — from small towns and communities to our nation’s financial centers — to fuel the increase in economic prosperity that we all seek,” added Nichols.

……………….

U.S. banks could return more than $100 billion in capital to investors if Trump succeeds in push to loosen regulation.

The six biggest U.S. banks could potentially return more than $100 billion in capital to investors over time through dividends and share buybacks if the Trump administration succeeds in a push to loosen bank regulation.

President Donald Trump signed a memorandum ordering a review of the Dodd-Frank Act, the regulatory overhaul which has guided regulators such as the Federal Reserve.

White House adviser, Gary Cohn, said banks are burdened too much by rules added after the financial crisis.

Way to go comrade Sardonicus for your passionate support of the Palestinians!

Isn’t ironic that Trump wants you to think that immigrants are ruining America? Yet, he does not want you to know that his grandparents were German immigrants, his mother was a Scottish immigrants, his first wife is a Czech immigrant, and his current wife is a Slovenian an immigrant too. That is the height of hypocrisy!

No, I don’t think it’s hypocritical at all. All his relatives were legal immigrants, where as tens of millions of illegal immigrants have been deliberately been allowed into the country in the last few decades. The other thing is all his relatives were European immigrants and the US was founded by Europeans and had a European Christian culture until roughly the early 1970’s (for it’s entire existence, until then). Until 1965 US law had always been to overwhelmingly favor European immigrants to maintain the European ethnicity and culture the country had. That changed in 1965 when immigration to the US was opened to the world.

Today, whites (Europeans) make up between 65-70% of the American population. In 1965 whites made up 90% of the American population and they still had a lot of power. Today, whites are largely powerless, except with Trump there is now a glimmer of hope. Jews and others have completely displaced whites in the top universities in the country (from where the countries future leaders will come), Federal Reserve bankers, the Supreme Court and virtually all areas. All of these institutions were founded by white European Christians and now you can hardly find a white European Christian in some of them.

Harvard University was originally founded as a religious school by Christians and all the Ivy league schools were dominated by the white Christian majority of the country. Today there are more Jews that attend Harvard than whites, although Jews make up 2% of the American population. There are also more Asians that attend Harvard than whites. The same is true for the other schools in the Ivy League. More Jews are admitted to these schools than whites and its been demonstrated these Jews often have inferior scholastic records to whites that are turned down. Since 1970 we have had six Federal Reserve heads and every one of these was a Jew except for one that held the position for one year in the 1970’s. So Jews have lead the Federal Reserve for 46 of the last 47 years. The Supreme Court used to be an all white institution except for one Jew. The court now has two or three Jews and Obama nominated another, but Obama’s pick didn’t get in.

All of America’s leading institutions and the government have seen whites displaced by ethnic minorities. An act of goodwill or friendliness by the rulers of the country have seen a large part of the native population of the country wiped out. The same is happening in Europe, Australia and Canada. This has only happened in white countries. Saudi Arabia, Japan, certainly Israel and the rest of the world have not deliberately committed genocide against their own people.

Beginning at 15 min. 15 seconds into the video Professor Kevin MacDonald is introduced at the Alt Right conference held a few months ago. Professor MacDonald gives a speech on the Jews drive against the whites of the USA, beginning in the early part of the 20th century pushing for the US to become a multi-ethnic and then multi-cultural country. Professor MacDonald discusses a play called “The Melting Pot” by Israel Zangwill, a strongly identified and Zionist Jew. President Roosevelt is in the crowd watching and comments.

You’re right to praise Kevin MacDonald. His work is invaluable. We all have a lot to learn from him. Let’s hope that Trump turns America around, as many White Nationalists are hoping he will.

But if I may point this out without giving offense: there comes a time when our admiration for Donald Trump must end. Rudely and abruptly end. For me, that point will come when he hands over Palestine to the Jews.

I don’t care what good Trump does in America if he does evil in Palestine.

I’m a supporter of Palestinians and the Arabs and I hope Trump is criticized strongly if he isn’t fair to the Palestinians. I would hope that criticism gets much stronger. I think his ideas might still be developing on the mid-east after reading this article.

@ TOEJAM, Speaking of the Zionis national anthem, This story might freak you out.

Six years ago, the Yediot Ahronot, Israel’s largest newspaper conduct a survey of Israeli religous school teachers which was designed to gauge their level of education, The conclusions were shocking.
One of the question was: Finish the National Anthem. Here were some of the responses:
Many participants could not finish the national anthem.
Some commented, “I do not know and don’t wish to know.”
Others asked if the national anthem is a verse in the Talmud.

One young teacher described the Jewish religious school, called a Hesder, where he works one hour per week and earns $300 monthly, as follows:
“We do not teach math, science, English, history or literature. After morning prayer, we teach the Torah only.”

Israel spends 7 million dollars annually on these schools and the government often receives fake and fraudulent progress reports in return.

You will be glad to know that this school is fully subsidized by US tax-payers.

I’m glad Darkmoon is back on the internet. So, this is the stalemate we live with and it is preferable to war, it is preferable to all other options obviously. Trump has to focus on cleaning up the American bureaucracy and actually prosecuting the criminals in the political class. I think this will unearth a nest of maggots that have labels like “illegal organ trade” “child sex slavery”, etc. It will also reveal the depth of corruption in such international lettered agencies as WHO. I’m not saying I know anything special. I certainly have no inside line. The Trump presidency will not be about making peace in the middle east. There is no peace where things like water don’t exist. I pray for those people.

The Trump presidency has to be about exposing the criminal class that may possibly be Jewish and that may possibly go all the way back to Israel–the epicenter of the international criminal class. When that is exposed the map is going to change intellectually.

As a Jew who is 5th generation British – whose family worked hard, paid taxes, fought and died in HM forces, obey every law… please can you let me know how to get in touch with the Jewish conspirators that will give me total power that you seem so fixated about – the 90 or so members of my family over 130 years have not had any inking of our destiny… When you have supplied this I would also like your help to let me play with unicorns and learn to teleport… I am so sorry that you can hate your fellow man so much and that a person can be so articulate yet ignorant. Do get medical help…

Yes, we understand exactly what you are saying and where you are coming from. You are obviously sincere. So feel free to criticize us for our perceived inadequacies. However, nowhere have we said that we hate all Jews and lump them all together.

I guess there are many innocent Jews who are genuinely baffled why Jews should have been expelled from 109 countries. They remain ignorant of the Jewish role in history: the Jews behind Cromwell and the execution of King Charles I, the Jews behind the French Revolution, the Jews behind Communism and the Bolshevik reign of terror under Lenin and Stalin (1917-1953), the Jews who staffed the cruel and bloodthirsty cheka and the Siberian gulags and who, between them, were responsible for the mass murder and torture (according to Solzhenitsyn) of 66 million Russian Christians and the destruction of their churches. Ever heard of Leon Trotsky, Lazar Kaganovitch, Ilya Ehrenberg?

Maybe the old adage is true: where ignorance is bliss, ’tis folly to be wise. Believe me, Moishe, the Jews have a lot to answer for, and individual Jews cannot wiggle out of their culpability by throwing up their hands and wailing, “Oy veh, I am not to blame for any of these evils!”

Right now you are guilty of the theft and plunder of Palestine.

You are also guilty, courtesy of Barbara Spectre who speaks in your name — “We Jews will be held responsible for this!” — for the nightmare of multiculturalism and mass immigration. These evils, which you Jews scrupulously avoid in Israel, you are quite happy to foist on our White homelands in Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand.

Yes, Moishe, you Jews collectively have a lot to answer for, though individual Jews like yourself may justifiably claim ignorance and non-complicity.

When I was at university a religious christian guy told me everyday I pray for your soul… well don’t. In you case sort your own house out, your Jew-hate must be covering up some serious mental disorder.

Reading your response it appears you are a monarchist, slave supporting and rich-dominating proponent as the events like the English Civil War, the end of the Czar, the Napoleonic laws remain miraculous to this day and have resulted in a far more liberal, tolerant and open world – If you seriously believe Jews achieved these changes then convert and rejoice…. unfortunately it is total b*llocks.

The most worrying thing though is you are happy to condemn a whole group people due to your hatred and inept research on a very few – Hitler would be proud of you. The Torah (a Jewish text written in Hebrew not something easily googled over) says if you condemn an innocent man you condemn the world…

As regards Samaria feel to quote the thoughts on independence of all the leaders, kings, prime minsters and presidents of that region from Roman times to 1967 when Gaza and West Bank were taken off the Egyptians and Jordanians by Israel – “Sweet FA” because none existed…. the Palestine issue is political and can be solved but morons that make it into an all or nothing situation help no-one.

A quick one on Talmud, oh Jew-hating imbeciles… the Talmud (be it Babylonian or Jerusalem) attempts to addresses the gaps in the Torah… for example the Torah says that Passover should be kept for 7 days and then It says for 8 days… please engage your brains it is like Muslim Suffi… The Talmud is where the phrase love your neighbour as yourself comes from btw.

Finally, the Amelikites, Hellenism, Rome, Persia, Nazis, Bolshevism all tried to wipe out the Jews – the Jews never captured an inch of their land yet all are now dust in history and 12,000,000 of us are alive and well – more than Sweden and Wales combined with half those living in Israel… So rant as much as you like about a contentious few and do feel free to praise the good Jews like the democrats, doctors, scientists and entertainers that have cured, modernised, innovated and brought joy to so many more. As Milton Friedman said to the Maynard Keynes about economics, in the “long run” you will be dead… I hope you will stand before your own maker and be able to prove your were fair, rational and did not promote mindless hate, there is still time.

Rest assured I do not pray for your soul – Judaism believes we each individidually have a contract with the L-rd and all peoples can go to heaven but it starts with peace with your fellow man – so make your own peace starting with a mirror, a brain and turning off the hate switch.

I will allow others to deal with the points you raise here. Hopefully Lobro, Pat, Felix, Peter, Arch Stanton, or some other DM stalwart will pick up from where I left off.

Rest assured, meanwhile, that I cannot regard myself in any way as a diehard “antisemite” as long as I publish articles by Jews such as Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir, and several others. I also happen to have a Jewish online friend, a female convert to Christianity, whose career as an artist I have promoted by writing a positive review of her work which has helped her to get several art exhibitions. So I have nothing against good Jews, only bad ones! 🙂

Moreover, on a site where most other commenters have attacked the Old Testament, I have been the only person to put in a good word for the OT. I cannot find fault with the Book of Ecclesiastes, the Book of Job, and most of the Psalms. See here:

Join us for a special Kol Nidre service designed for
families like yours. This more informal
service will provide the opportunity for the
whole family to come to Shul together.
Children and adults of all ages are welcome,
as is the accompanying inevitable
(and sweet) sound of children. We will
learn a couple of new melodies and sing
some old favorites. Through song and
story, prayer, conversation and quiet, we will create a
sacred yet comfortable space to begin our Yom Kippur
and to make this a useful Yom Kippur for each of us.
Bring a few quieter toys for your kids, bring your energy
and bring your spirit. We will meet in the Beit Midrash
and begin at 6:00pm and conclude before 8:00pm – and
if you need to leave early, no problem!

Two of the largest Reform synagogues in the United States — Central Synagogue and Temple Emanu-El in New York — both will be live-streaming. Emanu-El, a classical Reform synagogue that counts public figures such as former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg among its members, will be offering video of the service after years of broadcasting audio of its cantor, choir and organ arrangements.

Moishe –
Do you chant KOL NIDRE every year to release yourself from oaths and promises..??

let’s put moishe under a magnifying glass for a bit

As a Jew who is 5th generation British – whose family worked hard, paid taxes, fought and died in HM forces, obey every law

Either Moishe is indeed a jew, which means he says kol nidre without fail (has been saying it for 5 generations) or didn’t say kol nidre as therefore not a jew by central definition of judaism (kol nidre)

If so… why?

clearly, Moishe is a jew ==> Moishe says kol nidre, so this question is rhetorical.
If he answered “yes”, he would fail his kol nidre obligation, moishe is a bad jew (which might qualify him as the mythical “good jew”, you know the ones who work hard and pay taxes 😉 )

If not.. why not?

This is the proper answer, he lies because he obviously said kol nidre and is sticking to it (never doing a scintilla of useful work, cheating on taxes just like St meyer Rothschild is shown in that hollywood hagiography, etc) – a good jew by all measures except for the goyyim and who cares what the goyyim think, right?

The service also includes practices absent at most traditional Kol Nidre services. Along with prayer and silent meditation, last year’s service saw congregants perform a breathing exercise. [yoga as part of Kol Nidre]

[what could a SILENT meditation on Kol Nidre entail? well, maybe how “BDS” actually stands for BS, see below]

Jewish Voice for Peace, which supports Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign against Israel known as BDS, is live streaming services and sermons from several of the movement’s rabbis across the country on Yom Kippur, as it did on Rosh Hashanah. A service to be streamed from a Philadelphia havurah on Yom Kippur afternoon is titled “If I forget Thee O Hebron: An Interfaith Martyrology Service.”

i am at a loss for words, hey, who stole my words, i will sing a silent Deutschland Uber Alles.

Unlike Christianity, you cannot get instant foregiveness in your death bed, whoosh and you’re absolved – it starts with addressing people wronged on an annual basis…

Yom Kippur tries to get forgiveness where the you failed to make contact or the person who was giving foregiveness was too unreasonable – otherwise everyone who attended Yom kippur would live forever and be fabulously rich.

Kol nidre starts the day not ends it, so is like going to the Stars and Stripes on Super Bowl and knowing the result. The end game service is Neilah.

I am sure you would not tell a gay man or lesbian how to run their lives so please leave jewish to people live their own little lives – if you want to be nosy and experience the jewish way go watch Fiddler and the Roof and then live your own life.

The Nazis gassed 6 million yet stored thousands of Torah scrolls for a post- holocaust Disney experience, don’t stoop to such levels.

That is a great handle for a wanker like you. Equivalent to “spank your monkey” 🙂

I know very little about Judaism… just the way I like it. Proud of it.

“Torah. Torah. Fiddler on roof”… HUH??? One more Torah (tora)… it would be a BAD movie about Japs bombing Pearl Harbor..!! 🙂

I take my info from what the synagogue rabbis post online… not from the “monkey spanker”… such as the synagogue where former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is boasted to be among its members… with other wealthy Pharisee-Jews..!!

“Two of the largest Reform synagogues in the United States — Central Synagogue and Temple Emanu-El in New York — both will be live-streaming. Emanu-El, a classical Reform synagogue that counts public figures such asformer New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg among its members, will be offering video of the service after years of broadcasting audio of its cantor, choir and organ arrangements.”

Well… “spanking the monkey”… Bloomberg and tens of thousands have your claims outnumbered..!!

That’s the results of your taking kol nidre SO seriously..!!
……… and it is YOUR NATURE..!! 🙂

LOBRO, too right I indeed ‘do’ Kol Nidrei… Not chant it actually do it… What is wrong with Kol Nidre?

You ASK to be resolved not you GET resolution – huge difference.

If you cannot get the persons’ forgiveness then g-d does not intervene unless the person ioffended is acting stupidly or cannot be found. To err is human, no?

If you lie then G-d will know. He created everything including schmocks like LOBRO…

It is better in the first place to do good (613 commandments) regardless. And for non-Jews to do just the Noah ones (10 or so) – then we all go to heaven. So even BDS (Brain dead scum) idiots who condone Hamas (killing gays, dashing out baby’s brains, spend aid money on tunnels not welfare, who destroyed the greenhouses left for Palestinians, who keep mentally ill prisoners and do not return remains) can go to the next world…

LOBRO, Kol Nidre must be so annoying for you so I hope you enjoy your last rights and get full absolution through Christ you deserve as soon as possible – or perhaps repenting every year is a little more civilised and grounded in 5,000 years of history.

PAT – you state you know nothing about Judaism yet rail against it… You must be very proud to have developed such blind nazi hatred. Clearly your subject matter expertise is masterbation yet are incapable of a master debate, your behaviour is a perfect example to Americans of what a true wanker is. The difference between you and I is you may hate all Jews but I don’t hate all tossers…

Yom Kippur tries to get forgiveness where the you FAILED to make contact

“FAILED” refers to something in the PAST, even a jew to whom english is a second or third (after yiddish and hebrew) language should appreciate that.
So you are saying that Jews ask forgiveness for having been typical Jews in the past – boo hoo, please forgive us Lord for having jewed someone, we can’t help it, waaah!

here is Kol nidre, not that you need a reminder, pay attention to CAPITALIZED

“All vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted, or bound ourselves to, FROM THIS DAY of atonement, UNTIL THE NEXT DAY OF ATONEMENT (whose arrival we hope for in happiness) we repent, AFOREHAND, of them all, THEY SHALL ALL BE DEEMED ABSOLVED, forgiven, annulled, void and made of no effect; THEY SHALL NOT BE BINDING, nor have any power; THE VOWS SHALL NOT BE RECKONED AS VOWS, THE OBLIGATIONS SHALL NOT BE OBLIGATORY, nor the oaths considered as oaths.”

No, they are not asking any forgiveness at all, they are making the one single promise to satan that any other oath to anyone else outside the jew swarm is pure bullshit, forgive them if any such promise is honored by mistake.
You don’t need to have a psycho PhD from Brandeis U to figure it out, the language is plain enough.
It’s the Jew’s futures market, one Kol nidre is a 12-month futures contract worth of 24/7 lying and cheating and swindles that EVERY Jew (“Good Uncle Jew” is a bedtime story that goy morons lull themselves to sleep with) participates in Until the next Day of Atonement (whose arrival we hope for in happiness).
happy happy joy joy.

lately, after that incident when the Rothschild article and the comments got wiped out, the site has been blessed with extra infestation … something hurting somewhere?

The Jews “futures” market has lasted 5,000 years and outstripped all your nazi, Bolshevik, Roman, Hellenistic and Persian Jew hating mates – Could it be that it The Lord actually repects the approach of asking forgives (yom kiippur means Day of atonement) and apparently admits to possible human error in the future…

I suspect your jealousy is the result of your ignorant sociopathic ways having no hope, no tolerance nor a future.

Everyday you must wake up and Krank that the lord has foresaken you and made you a Jew Hater instead of a normal human being in a adiverse and good world – which ultimately will see you roasting in hell.