This isn't the moderators' job -- it's OUR job. The success (or failure) of the Jams lies mostly with the members.

We're the ones who make the games, review the games, and vote. If the Jams fail it's OUR fault.

Only to some extent, you don't get much done without authority. If, e.g., we decided to voluntarily do block voting so every game is gauranteed a few reviews, it would be difficult without an official block list. Otherwise, people will inevitably screw it up and each want their own method and their own style, etc. You know it'd happen

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Hah, finally fixed these stupid links. The second game is on hiatus, realized university is way more demanding than JC

Greep, changing the rules of the Jam has nothing to do with any of the current conversations and has nothing to do with what chance said.
It would be like arguing that we (as a community) cannot pick the theme of the Jam....because it's the Jam winner's job.. Yeah, so?

This isn't the moderators' job -- it's OUR job. The success (or failure) of the Jams lies mostly with the members.

We're the ones who make the games, review the games, and vote. If the Jams fail it's OUR fault.

Only to some extent, you don't get much done without authority. <snip>

That's true. But like MOTG said, that part goes without saying. And besides, that's not the problem we face right now.

The problem is that we all want feedback.... and we all want our game to be played / rated. But too few of us are willing to spend time rating other people's games. And with less than 30 voters, the ranking (beyond the top 3-5) don't mean very much.

There's really only one solution to that problem -- and it doesn't come from the moderators.

Okay, this is confusing. There isn't actually anyone in 32nd place to compete in the essay write-off against the guy in 21st place (Teamsteeve).

What should I do in this case? Have all the 21st and 22nd placers (please no... @ _@) send in stuff? Or does Teamsteeve get it by default? (even though I've worked with him in a previous jam and it probably won't even feel like enough of a prize and this is awkward and help me guys)

Oh cool, I win by default! /> But not having to write why I need and deserve to win this awesome prize doesn't seem like the spirit of competition you were aiming for.

If I were you I would offer the chance to all 22nd placers, but I'm not you and if you don't want that many entrants to smother you with text, I think the best way for you to handle it is give the chance to whoever made the game that should have come 32nd in your eyes. />

Hey SJ, have you made a decision on what you're going to do yet? I'm looking forward to trying to out-essay somebody and prove that I'm the worthiest to deserve your prize! I probably won't be, but I'll let you decide. I already know what graphic I'd like if I were to have the honour bestowed upon me.

The problem is that we all want feedback.... and we all want our game to be played / rated. But too few of us are willing to spend time rating other people's games. And with less than 30 voters, the ranking (beyond the top 3-5) don't mean very much.

There's really only one solution to that problem -- and it doesn't come from the moderators.

Wow, are we still discussing this?

I already posted my thoughts, but it was near the bottom of a page and might have been missed. I think it's less about unwillingness to rate games, and more about just not having the time to thoroughly play and review 80 games in 16 days. I didn't get through all the games for that very reason, and a couple others didn't either. I don't know about everyone else, but I wouldn't mind waiting for an extra week (or using chance's randomized list idea, so the amount of games to play seems less intimidating and people will actually start playing) if it meant more people could finish all the games.

I already posted my thoughts, but it was near the bottom of a page and might have been missed. I think it's less about unwillingness to rate games, and more about just not having the time to thoroughly play and review 80 games in 16 days. I didn't get through all the games for that very reason, and a couple others didn't either. I don't know about everyone else, but I wouldn't mind waiting for an extra week (or using chance's randomized list idea, so the amount of games to play seems less intimidating and people will actually start playing) if it meant more people could finish all the games.

I don't think it was missed, it's just that there are lots of opinions flying around here.I also like the idea of a longer time to vote (which I think I mentioned at some point too) and nobody has really given me any feedback about the specifics of the randomiser that I've talked about, so I think I'll just make it my way and see how it goes.

Anyway, a new topic to discuss all this is coming soon and I think everybody knows how everybody else is feeling about the whole situation at the moment so we'll all have a chance to voice our opinions there (again) too.

Stop it everyone! If you do come up with a good theme or handicap and then say what it is, nobody can use it because it's too obvious. Especially obvious if you ever get the chance to choose one for the jam yourself.

ok guys, It's up to US! So next jam.. I'm going to get a cup of tea, but I don't guarantee I will play through your whole game.. since some games don't make sense, E.G. A tale of two, Toothpaste man, Star rock bird and so on..

Stop it everyone! If you do come up with a good theme or handicap and then say what it is, nobody can use it because it's too obvious. Especially obvious if you ever get the chance to choose one for the jam yourself.

You think I'm stupid enough to give away the theme I'd really select if I got the chance?

I wouldn't wait for Nocturne to open a topic, not with the room to discuss this here.

I believe he said he wasn't going to read any of this, twice, though.

Doesn't matter. You can still discuss this, and then have better ideas to bring up in the topic when it is created. That's just my opinion though, you can go on asking where the topic is instead. He won't read that either.

I'm loving Guillotine, though I've found a pretty... major bug with it. When it lags, you can stack, double, and as far as I'm aware, unlimited stack turrets. Even on areas where you can't normally do such. Though I can't seem to do this to the path to block it off funnily enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuhPAc0yHEYIt's relevant because he just got to the Jam #9 games.

LOL I think this guy is definitely Sasha Baron Cohen.

@bahamut416Yeah - I did notice that; it actually ends up not having to do with the lag and instead the collisions - when I was placing towers, I checked for collisions at mouse_x and mouse_x instead of the center of the grid the mouse was in. As such, if you move your mouse to the edge of the square, you can stack multiple towers. Yay! Bugs!