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I don't think Tubby can be punished for this. It's not a picture of a ribbon from the site medal page, and as far as I know, one is entitled to add any pctures one likes to one's signature, as long as it isn't offensive, racist etc. It's a classic subversive action though. I'll be PMing Tubby for tips on subversion if a certain ID card bill gets through. That, and emigrating.

Did make me think though - if Tubby is entitled to wear the TELIC medal, and has actually been awarded this medal, then he is in a minority, even amongst TELIC veterans.

Thanks mate! I have only just got it - over two years after I got back

I don't think Tubby can be punished for this. It's not a picture of a ribbon from the site medal page, and as far as I know, one is entitled to add any pctures one likes to one's signature, as long as it isn't offensive, racist etc. It's a classic subversive action though. I'll be PMing Tubby for tips on subversion if a certain ID card bill gets through. That, and emigrating.

Did make me think though - if Tubby is entitled to wear the TELIC medal, and has actually been awarded this medal, then he is in a minority, even amongst TELIC veterans.

Thanks mate! I have only just got it - over two years after I got back

No I dont think you should be punished for it because it is not a medal from the awards list. However I do see it as an attempt to undermine an enjoyalbe addition to the site. Many people have congratulated me on the idea. So bottom line I wont punish you but I do find it rather disrespectful.

If you earned "whatever that is" award it is in real life thats great. But this is just a simple forum. And I make a distinction between the two on that level. Just coz somebody was a Major in real life doesnt meant that they get to be a Major on this forum. I seriously doubt the US Army is going to make me a Major General just because I was on this forum. If they did its a pretty sads state of affairs.

So im not happy with what youve done Tubbyboy but im not going to punish you for it.

tubbyboy,please,you don´t want to have problem with the mods and the admins,do you want?.

remove that award from your signature

"That award" is a genuine medal that I am entitled to wear.

I have not taken it from anywhere on the site.
I am not portraying it as a site medal.
I have made sure that it looks different to the site medals.
I am (justly) proud of this medal, why should I not be allowed to wear it with pride? If the rules change to not allowing the wearing of real medals I will remove it, until then I will continue to display it.

Maybe I am being a little obstreperous, but I posted the image as a joke at first and was immediately threatened with warnings etc.

In protest at this I am now going to post all my ribbons in the signature block!

tubbyboy,please,you don´t want to have problem with the mods and the admins,do you want?.

remove that award from your signature

Tubbyboy, this is Broadsword. Come in Tubbyboy.

And now the irony is in full swing. Admittedly, I have only Tubbyboy's word on this, but my gut feeling is that he speaks the truth when he claims he is entitled to wear the TELIC medal.

Gen. Sandworm has made certain well explained threats against those who might post WW2inColor medal ribbons in their signature. This is a matter of record. However, there is nothing on this site that restricts one from attaching other images to one's signature. The irony in this case is that a member posting a ribbon that he is entitled to wear in the real world is being commanded to desist from doing do so on this site by those who have not the entitlement to wear their site ribbons in the real world.

I am in two minds over this. The first is that we need a site constitution to clear up such matters - but only if the French and Dutch, amongst others, ratify it in a referendum. The second mind says that Tubby is posting his TELIC ribbon (why is TELIC in capitals when it's a proper noun, not an acronym - except Tell Everyone Leave Is Cancelled etc?) purely to be subversive. It neither harms nor offends anyone. The harm test should be applied to pubic laws. The offense test is valid for places where membership is voluntary, such as this site. As such, there is no reason to ban it. Moreover, what would it say about this site if the mods / admins allow members to use the Nazi Swastika, but not ribbons from medals won in the liberation of a subjugated people?

tubbyboy,please,you don´t want to have problem with the mods and the admins,do you want?.
remove that award from your signature

It has to be said that I have far more trouble with non-military people making up medals and adding them to their sig (which is after all what the site medals basically are) than with genuine military people displaying ribbons for decorations which they have genuinely earned in real life.
If tubby hadn't earned the Telic medal (or the other two) he should clearly not be allowed them - but as he apparently has, he should keep them in his sig.

For those of you who don't know what I'm on about, Operation Telic was the British contribution to the invasion of Iraq, and those who were on it (and the subsequent occupation? not sure on that one - anyone?) are entitled to a campaign medal. Which is only just appearing!

I have neither the time nor the inclination to differentiate between the incompetent and the merely unfortunate - Curtis E LeMay

No I dont think you should be punished for it because it is not a medal from the awards list. However I do see it as an attempt to undermine an enjoyalbe addition to the site. Many people have congratulated me on the idea. So bottom line I wont punish you but I do find it rather disrespectful.

If you earned "whatever that is" award it is in real life thats great. But this is just a simple forum. And I make a distinction between the two on that level. Just coz somebody was a Major in real life doesnt meant that they get to be a Major on this forum. I seriously doubt the US Army is going to make me a Major General just because I was on this forum. If they did its a pretty sads state of affairs.

So im not happy with what youve done Tubbyboy but im not going to punish you for it.

End of discussion.

I appreciate what you are saying, however, I initially posted the ribbon as a bit of a joke - not even in my signature block. I was immediately threatened with reprisals. I took umbrage at this and decided to go the whole hog.

I am proud of that medal in particular, even if I did not agree with the war in Iraq. BTW, if anyone is interested, the other two are Northern Ireland (30 days non consecutive service) and Queens Jubilee.

As a sop to those who are getting worked up, I have made it clear in my signature that they are not site medals.

For those of you who don't know what I'm on about, Operation Telic was the British contribution to the invasion of Iraq, and those who were on it (and the subsequent occupation? not sure on that one - anyone?) are entitled to a campaign medal. Which is only just appearing!

No I dont think you should be punished for it because it is not a medal from the awards list. However I do see it as an attempt to undermine an enjoyalbe addition to the site. Many people have congratulated me on the idea. So bottom line I wont punish you but I do find it rather disrespectful.

If you earned "whatever that is" award it is in real life thats great. But this is just a simple forum. And I make a distinction between the two on that level. Just coz somebody was a Major in real life doesnt meant that they get to be a Major on this forum. I seriously doubt the US Army is going to make me a Major General just because I was on this forum. If they did its a pretty sads state of affairs.

So im not happy with what youve done Tubbyboy but im not going to punish you for it.

End of discussion.

Now that's a reasonable conclusion. I'm happy with it. Now, if only we could get Gen. Sandworm moderating the second reading of the ID card bill, the world would be rosy once more.

tubbyboy,please,you don´t want to have problem with the mods and the admins,do you want?.

remove that award from your signature

Tubbyboy, this is Broadsword. Come in Tubbyboy.

And now the irony is in full swing. Admittedly, I have only Tubbyboy's word on this, but my gut feeling is that he speaks the truth when he claims he is entitled to wear the TELIC medal.

Gen. Sandworm has made certain well explained threats against those who might post WW2inColor medal ribbons in their signature. This is a matter of record. However, there is nothing on this site that restricts one from attaching other images to one's signature. The irony in this case is that a member posting a ribbon that he is entitled to wear in the real world is being commanded to desist from doing do so on this site by those who have not the entitlement to wear their site ribbons in the real world.

I am in two minds over this. The first is that we need a site constitution to clear up such matters - but only if the French and Dutch, amongst others, ratify it in a referendum. The second mind says that Tubby is posting his TELIC ribbon (why is TELIC in capitals when it's a proper noun, not an acronym - except Tell Everyone Leave Is Cancelled etc?) purely to be subversive. It neither harms nor offends anyone. The harm test should be applied to pubic laws. The offense test is valid for places where membership is voluntary, such as this site. As such, there is no reason to ban it. Moreover, what would it say about this site if the mods / admins allow members to use the Nazi Swastika, but not ribbons from medals won in the liberation of a subjugated people?

Very well said. I personally see no harm in posting your own medels/ribbons in the sig. space. After all you can post whatever you like there.

I've been awarded the site peacekeeping medal! Earlier comments will explain why it's not in my signature, but here's my tuppence on the reasons for the award itself.

Guessing from the image name, it's a UN related medal. How appropriate here. On the thread in question, I turned up late without the necessary authority or ability to stop the fight. Both parties paid my actions token attention and then continued as before. Classic UN! It could have been worse - both sides could have turned on me and then I'd have been in a right pickle.

I've been awarded the site peacekeeping medal! Earlier comments will explain why it's not in my signature, but here's my tuppence on the reasons for the award itself.

Guessing from the image name, it's a UN related medal. How appropriate here. On the thread in question, I turned up late without the necessary authority or ability to stop the fight. Both parties paid my actions token attention and then continued as before. Classic UN! It could have been worse - both sides could have turned on me and then I'd have been in a right pickle.

Yes the actual medal is a UN medal. But whatever its your choice. If you change your mind later you can where it. If not ......... then dont. Regardless you have been awarded the medal.