Ill Repute – Oxnard – Land Of No Toilets E.P. 7″

Yet another non-Swedish post from me! I’m full of surprises and do good attitude, but you guys just fuck with my head. You always want to hear new records, but you won’t pay for them. That’s what I call greed! I know a lot of you who visits this site are family men and women with perfect houses and dogs, but once you comment here you want to appear like you don’t fit in society. You’re just trying to give yourself a bad rep, but I see right through the tough guy attitude you guys want to show here. It’s not like I don’t like it as it’s always fun to be dissed, but to be honest to all of you readers and downloaders out there, I won’t kill for you, if you know what I mean. I’m just speaking my mind here, so if you are one of those “we’re all one big crew and if anyone fucks with us, we’ll get back at them” poser, think again as you’re sleepwalking in a dream world. Or just keep on posing, I don’t care. Is there anyone at all out there who cares?

“2nd rate band”? Must have openned a second bottle of chianti, Erich. :-) Posted this one a while back and I’d put this ep as the best thing Mystic ever put out and maybe in the top ten hardcore ep.s all time.

America’s Hardcore= the dumbest name ever for a band…but the comp trax and the AHC demo were pretty dope. Drew Berstein really pushed that band and it really shows in the sound. Way harder than most bands from the 82-84 era.

The LP has it’s moments but I too sold it a fewe years back as 2nd rate hardcore….now, all I have to do is listen to THESE tracks to compare……..

I’m guessing that if this is ‘worse’ than the the LP then by that stage they’d passed that crucial stage Erich rightly identified (on his Koro posting) when a band has ‘lost’ that particular drive and of-the-moment intensty that made at least one of their records a real goose-pimpler

How can someone on this list tell me (us) in all seriousness that JERRY´S KIDZ 7″e.p. from New Mexico…is shit ?! Haaaa!!??
Maybe the shit that accumulated in some ears over the years (caused by real mediocre stuff !) … needs to be checked out by an aurist ?!

And speaking of that State of New Mexico :
anyone here who owns/knows the 1984 s/t LP by the band KORP-HU ?
Have read cool things of it for a long time, but the almighty www. is not of a big help on this one …
Anyone knows a blog or someplace where that LP has been posted to ? Thanks for any advise!

behjan, guess you can’t read english very well…nobody above said the Jerry’s Kidz is shit, rather that it is mediocre hardcore. Peter was raving about Jerry’s Kidz a while back, Erich has raved about the Beaver 7 inch. I own both and listen to them occassionally but both very mediocre generic hardcore in my opinion (though gotta give a BIG edge to Beaver ‘cuz it was put out in 1981 so at least it was EARLY generic hardcore). Different people have different opinions about what is generic, but if Land of No Toilets is in the generic category it’s at the very fucking top! Who knows why a bunch of people with similar music tastes can have such widely different opinions about the same record. Maybe I like this 7 inch so much because it was one of the first hardcore records I ever bought.

No doubt a truism, but didn’t we all reach deepest with our early (12, 13, 14 year-old) loves? Of course some of you old men (excluding Peter and Martin) were more hardcore and went earlier and deeper than me.

Ill Repute gets point for their name and for actually a good riff on Sleepwalking. It is that kind of riff that gets stuck in your head so it must be good huh.
If you can’t make up your mind which was the best, the EP or the Mini LP, go for the Omelette Compilation of best I.R. tracks I’d say

Look, to me,ILL REPUTE was one of the hundreds of bands from that time and place. That is not a crime.
But IMO,aside music preferences and different tastes,there is also some kind of a historical context to any band,in case you care about such things (which I obviously do):
For a while,JK were one of the very few active PuNk-HardCore bands back then in the State of New Mexico ,being part of their small scene.
That gets almost always extra-points in my book. I prefer a favourite band from South Dakota most often over a fave one from California,
which has to do with that “historical context” thing I mentioned above.
The ILL REPUTE was one of the first PuNk records you bought. In the late 1980´s, when I had embraced the PuNk , JERRY`S KIDZ belonged
to the very first HardCore-Punk records I bought -a comparision.

behjan, I stand corrected. I did use “shit” in connection with Jerry’s Kidz, and it was a poor choice of words. I don’t think J.K. is shit. Not great, but not shit either. A fun record without any lasting power, IMO. I suspect our differences in musical taste may boil down to our early connections to those two records.

On your point about “historical context”, I can understand that J.K. has a very significant place in NEW MEXICO hardcore history, but that has nothing whatever to do with how GOOD the record is. Unless I was giving someone a lesson in hardcore “geography” I would never play that record just because Jerry’s Kidz was “one of the very few actiive punk-hardcore bands back then in the State of New Mexico.” Otherwise, I’d reach for many California punk and hardcore classics (Black Flag “Damaged,” Target of Demand 12″, Adolescents LP, BOS “Fighting Boys,” Bags EP, how to choose?) before a second or third tier record.

KBD is cool and it’s fun to listen to novelties and obscurities, and Jerry’s Kidz is obviously much more KBD than Ill Repute, but records become favorites because they are GREAT and I like listening to them.

To be able to settle this case once and for all I think we shall play Ill Repute and Jerry´s Kidz to someone who haven´t heard ém before. Ok I´ll play them for a kid here now… dum di dum the kid got an opinion: Jerry´s Kidz is clearly the better one.

Whoever said Ill Repute was second rate hardcore band, I would have to agree, as was most of the Nardcore stuff. I don’t think any of that stuff as classic, the art work from Los Hernandez Bros was killer and classic, but the music… eh! Early RKL comes the closest especially the LP and maybe the first Dr. Know 7″. And being from San Diego I am partial to the Manifest Destiny 7″. Maybe if they were on a different label then Mystic and the Doug Moody exploitation machine it would of sound better or atleast not all the same.