He had to make some sort of change, or Joe would have...at the top..after all Sam Mitchell was let go with an 8-9 record. Techically with this current roster, we are 7-8.

Not sure if this the right move, but let it play out for week, and if it doesn't work.. sit one if those guys name Rip or AI and bring them off the bench. Also somebody send Sheed a case of Red Bull for Christmas.

Flip didn't play who Joe wanted and look where it got him.
Curry will play the Lineup of Stucky, AI, Rip, Tay, and Sheed, cause Joe went and got AI. Curry feels at this time, considering the AI trade, that's who Joe wants out there to start. Benching Rip or AI for Stucky won't happen this time Cause Curry is feeling job security issues right now.

The odd part is Joe actually said the Rip/AI pair was a big reason he made the trade in the first place. Personally, i think Joe D was stuck in AI circa 2001 and hadn't realized that years had passed.

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Neither I or you do not know what was happening behind closed doors so we can only guess. My two cents:

Complacency was obvious and maybe for Dumars CB was the source. Why?

Well, CB was the one who had settled in Flip era very comfortably and therefore had no reason to wish something to change. It was remarkable how MC defined new roles for team but CB still preferred to play in "old" way. MC preferred more faster, penetrative, cutting tempo and probably that's why Dumars envisioned AI as an ideal player for MC style.

Amir is averaging 3.2 fouls in 16 minutes. today he did 4 fouls in 8 minutes. he isnt starting material...

kwame doesnt need words to describe..
we need dyess.. frontcourt is very weak..

Prince at PF wont work imo..

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I would rather see Fabio start at Power Forward. The guy hustles, can shoot which would spread the floor and he seems to have chemistry with AI. At this point it can't hurt. As long as Fabio leaves that nasty looking finger roll at home it is all good.

I would rather see Fabio start at Power Forward. They guy hustles, can shoot which would spread the floor and he seems to have chemistry with AI. At this point it can't hurt. As long as Fabio leaves that nasty looking finger roll at home it is all good.

I would rather see Fabio start at Power Forward. They guy hustles, can shoot which would spread the floor and he seems to have chemistry with AI. At this point it can't hurt. As long as Fabio leaves that nasty looking finger roll at home it is all good.

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Fabio will get killed on defense. I'm talking about murdered against other team's starters. Hell, I'd rather start Tay and i hate him at PF.

The odd part is Joe actually said the Rip/AI pair was a big reason he made the trade in the first place. Personally, i think Joe D was stuck in AI circa 2001 and hadn't realized that years had passed.

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Joe and everyone in Pistonland (yep me too sometimes) are all living in the before 2005 days of glory. Players like Sheed and AI have already seen their better days and now we are getting beaten by teams with no superstars, but younger legs.

So far three quality wins this season vs the Lakers, Cavs and Spurs and then four losses to sub .500 teams like the Nets, Twolves, Sixers and Knicks.

In todays LA Times NBA power rankings the Celtics, Lakers and Cavs make up the top three teams with the Pistons lingering down in the 13th slot. Just 7 months ago it was the Celtics, Lakers, Pistons and Hornets as the top 4.

The LA Times poll says that the Pistons are a team that can beat anyone (Spurs) and lose to anyone (Sixers at home). :(

To me it sounds like we are an average team that might finish above .500. Can't blame all of this on the trade of Chiek Samb...can we?? The coaches rotations are off, the defense is way down and both Sheed and AI are showing their age..Rip seems to be a lonely guy out there pouting and making mistakes .....Tay is still trying to give his 100%, but only after being called out by the coach. MC needs to call out Sheed next. Amir and Max??? I think we overestimated these guys potential or Flip ruined it the last three years...