[O]n the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is… moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity… in effect, being put into a witness-protection program—except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab.

Iamnotalone in myoutrage. And I have the following demand to make of “moderate Muslims” who claim that Islam means an “internal struggle” and say they have come to America to become Americans

If you claim that Islam is peace and that Islam is not violent, I demand that you publicly vow to protect this woman from harm to put your own lives on the line to protect hers and to demand that the fatwa against her is removed.

In the name of Molly Norris I defy you murderous Bastards!

I will give you a week. Till then this post will be on top of my blog. And if you don’t like the description “Murderous bastards” then stop acting like murderous bastards!

Until that is done this post will be on top this week, containing 1. The Everybody draw Mohammad poster, My pick for the winning poster, and the original Danish cartoons.

Image copywright Jyllands-Posten

I’m not big into insulting other people’s religions but this needs to be forcibly fought. As for a Fatwa, bring it on,
We are AMERICANS! If you come for one of us you come for ALL OF US! You want to kill me? So what! Everybody dies, but I’m not surrendering my 1st Amendment rights that have been given to me as a gift by thousands who fought to preserve them for an extra few days.

Let’s double down. My name is Peter Ingemi. My ancestors came here from Sicily 100 years ago. I am an American and I defy you..

Well said, I have read your blog since the Scott Brown campaign, as a Catholic, I know it is a big step for you personally to do this. You have captured what this is about. Nothing more than a full commitment to this woman’s safety will ever convince me there is one single true “moderate” muslim. I do know many Muslims, you can’t have these types of discussions with them, isn’t that odd? Every other person of faith I know is open to discussion of their reiligion, but not Muslims, we must take their declarations at face value and not question it. This tells me all I need know.

I declared my stand (for the umpteenth time) loud and clear at here and here.

At the Shades of Gray blog, I will also be hosting “Mohammed Mondays, from now through the end of December. If you have a color-free Mo-toon that’s more creative than stupid–I don’t think we need any more Mohammed (may pleats be upon him) as a pig or a turd–you are welcome to submit it. I will post it anonymously, or with your name attached.

I can’t draw to save my life (not that it would) I think the real disgrace actually isn’t so much the murderous thugs (who as murderous barbarian thugs can not be expected to be better) but the media and American public for not mounting an outcry against it.

The cleric put someone on a hitlist. That’s a threat of murder. Put him in jail and throw away they key. Done.

It doesn’t matter why he did it. At least not to our justice system. It matters to God, but when it comes to his soul… that’s between him and whatever afterlife awaits him. We don’t control that.

Moderate muslims don’t need to apologize for him. It’s the same reason that moderate christians don’t need to apologize for every fruit loop that murders in the name of the Lord. The apologies should come from the offender, not those they claim to represent.

Those who issues fatwas are “murderous bastards”. But moderates, by definition, aren’t.

Although some might disagree there are in fact plenty of moderate Muslims out there who have come to America and the west to just get ahead and aren’t interested in getting involved in this nonsense.

This is a huge mistake for several reasons:

1. When only the radicals voice is heard it becomes the defacto voice of Islam to the world

2. The radicals operate a lot like a Mafia family, if you talk against us you are a “rat” or “traitor” or subject to violence, this puts the moderates under their thumb. If the moderates don’t speak up they will have absolutely no chance to keep themselves.

3. Does the name Kitty Genovese mean anything to you? When people are silent or won’t say a word when this stuff happens it ALLOWS it to happen. Or let me put it this way, since the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church is not only a lot smaller than portrayed and since most abuse took place decades ago does that mean the Pope and Catholics who had nothing to do with it

When you are silent in the face of evil you enable it, when you are silenced by evil you are cowed by it.

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> When you are silent in the face of evil you enable it, when you are silenced by evil you are cowed by it.

Ok, I see the underlying point of view. It makes sense, logically.

The part I might disagree with is whether members of a religion or a group have a responsibility to disavow radicals. That is a deep question.

And are all members of a group as guilty as any radical member they don’t disavow?

In politics, we see it often when a politician throws their supporters under the bus at the first whiff of concern. At the other extreme, religions tend to stay the course. It took the Church about 400 years to finally apologize for convicting Gallileo of heresy (he spent the rest of his life under house arrest).

Cardinal Ratzinger, now the Pope, said of Gallileo [1], “The Church at the time of Galileo kept much more closely to reason than did Galileo himself, and she took into consideration the ethical and social consequences of Galileo’s teaching too. Her verdict against Galileo was rational and just, and the revision of this verdict can be justified only on the grounds of what is politically opportune.”

So, he seems to stand with the home team, arguing that going overboard is ok if it fits your worldview at the time, and you shouldn’t roll with whatever looks good for politics.

John Paul II, two years later, took a different tone, “Thanks to his intuition as a brilliant physicist and by relying on different arguments, Galileo, who practically invented the experimental method, understood why only the sun could function as the centre of the world, as it was then known, that is to say, as a planetary system. The error of the theologians of the time, when they maintained the centrality of the Earth, was to think that our understanding of the physical world’s structure was, in some way, imposed by the literal sense of Sacred Scripture….”

If you can’t get Pope’s to agree on something like this, it at least shows it’s a nontrivial question.

My practical concern is that assigning guilt by association to moderate muslims pretty much assures that the issue will never get resolved. And the flip side is the same: these clerics certainly generalize and blame all of us for the acts of a few. If both sides generalize like that, judging each other by their radicals, then it can only result in escalation.

I’d rather judge each individually by their actions. Starting with this cleric…