Quite frankly Idon't care about the Hunger Games. Ever since Twilight *shrugs*, all these tween novels turned into movies are a turn off for me.

Well the Hunger Games was HUGE in the U.S. and non sequel making over 400 million domestically, I'm sure the sequel is going to be BIG. It's not about what me or you like, that poll is about what the majority likes.

Well the Hunger Games was HUGE in the U.S. and non sequel making over 400 million domestically, I'm sure the sequel is going to be BIG. It's not about what me or you like, that poll is about what the majority likes.

Well the Hunger Games was HUGE in the U.S. and non sequel making over 400 million domestically, I'm sure the sequel is going to be BIG. It's not about what me or you like, that poll is about what the majority likes.

I found the link on a LotR fansite. Sure a some Chloe Moretz fansite has also linked to it. Probably explains the results right now.

__________________"I've been running scams on the street since I was ten. I was kicked out of the flight academy for having a mind of my own. I'm going be a pilot. Best in the galaxy."

__________________Hill:Then aliens invaded New York & were beaten back, by among others, a giant green monster, a costumed hero from the 40's...and a godWard: I don't think Thor is technically a god.Hill: Well...you haven't been near his arms.~Agents of SHIELD

Stop defending Thor. Thor murdered Frost Giants because someone called him a princess and almost started a war because someone ruined his big day. He wasn't thrown in prison. He was exiled until he learned to act like a man. So your assumption that Loki would have been in prison for his actions seems suspect at best.

and what Loki did was right as well? Loki was ready to exterminate an entire race for what?
not to mention the 80 some odd people he alone killed on Earth just because he wasn't getting his way.

and what Loki did was right as well? Loki was ready to exterminate an entire race for what?
not to mention the 80 some odd people he alone killed on Earth just because he wasn't getting his way.

You mistaken me. I think they were both selfish fools in the first film. Thor blinded by his own vanity and bloodust, Loki by his jealousy for his brother.

Thor is snapped from this illusion during his time on Earth, brought up by the thought that he has caused his father's death. Loki from his by the look on his father's face before his plunge into nothingness. Loki's wounded pride is on display in The Avengers. He is far more self-aware at that point. And Thor is also still showing the arrogant jerk at times, with crap like "your imagined slights".

One of the reasons I have loved the existence of little Loki in the comics is you have the meeting between the best of both men. Thor, beyond his bloodlust and arrogance and Loki, before his jealousy for his brother has twisted him. It is why they actually get along so well.

__________________"I've been running scams on the street since I was ten. I was kicked out of the flight academy for having a mind of my own. I'm going be a pilot. Best in the galaxy."

You mistaken me. I think they were both selfish fools in the first film. Thor blinded by his own vanity and bloodust, Loki by his jealousy for his brother.

Thor is snapped from this illusion during his time on Earth, brought up by the thought that he has caused his father's death. Loki from his by the look on his father's face before his plunge into nothingness. Loki's wounded pride is on display in The Avengers. He is far more self-aware at that point. And Thor is also still showing the arrogant jerk at times, with crap like "your imagined slights".

One of the reasons I have loved the existence of little Loki in the comics is you have the meeting between the best of both men. Thor, beyond his bloodlust and arrogance and Loki, before his jealousy for his brother has twisted him. It is why they actually get along so well.

I just find it odd really that Loki if accepted his role as a Jotun King things could have been different.
Think about it. If Odin would have done what Loki said and told him who he really was very early on, Loki might not be as messed up in either the comics or the movie.

You mistaken me. I think they were both selfish fools in the first film. Thor blinded by his own vanity and bloodust, Loki by his jealousy for his brother.

Thor is snapped from this illusion during his time on Earth, brought up by the thought that he has caused his father's death. Loki from his by the look on his father's face before his plunge into nothingness. Loki's wounded pride is on display in The Avengers. He is far more self-aware at that point. And Thor is also still showing the arrogant jerk at times, with crap like "your imagined slights".

One of the reasons I have loved the existence of little Loki in the comics is you have the meeting between the best of both men. Thor, beyond his bloodlust and arrogance and Loki, before his jealousy for his brother has twisted him. It is why they actually get along so well.

I dont see how that is being an arrogant jerk, he was right to say that, Loki said he remember Thor "tossing him into an abyss" when that is clearly not what happened at the end of Thor, Thor tried everything to save him and it was Loki who let go of the sceptre. So claiming Thor threw him into that abyss is an imagined slight, Thor was just calling it what it was.

That's why I think it's being considered 'illegal' in an "after-the-fact" view-point, when taking a look at everything he ended up doing (and Heimdall learning he let the Jotuns into Asgard in the first place, and then letting them in a 2nd time) then the populace subsequently making the assumption that getting Thor out of the way as heir so he could seize the throne was always his plan

Given the article, I don't understand why this is so difficult. The POV is from a story telling point of few, from the audiences POV, Loki's actions were Illegal.

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Man loki was putting the smackdown on Thor. I smell a double-double cross thing though. Idk. Like maybe Loki is playing Malekith

Nah, that's too sunday morning cartoonish, plus Tom even said he and Malekith sort of see eye to eye. Loki isn't playing malekith, he's playign EVERYONE.

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Thor went against the explicit instruction of the King. His actions would have caused a war in which more Asgardians would have died had Loki not killed the Frost Giants' king. It was a sneaky way to do it, sure, but had it not been done, there would have been war.

Well, had Loki not committed treason INITIALLY by letting the frost giants into Asgard during a King's coronation, Thor wouldn't have almost caused a war. And it wouldn't have set forth the events that lead to Loki taking the throne. I'm with the other guy, Loki did ALL of this by causing the chaos and committing treason in the first place, the defending of the character in this particular situation, and comparing his actions to Thor's are in insult to both characters.

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The way I see it playing out is that Thor and Loki will apoarch like they are going to fight and rescue Jane. Battle some Dark Elves and when they reach Malekith and Kruse, Loki will "betrayal" Thor. They will let there guard down and then Thor will attack. That is what I think the shots of him calling Mjolnir and his full are armor are from.

I don't think so. I think that the scene happens twice. Once in the dream sequence, and once in actuality.

We already know the theme of

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time and space

are going to be a factor in this movie. This isn't going to be as strait forward as any of you seem to believe. I can guarantee that with 100% certainty..or can't I? :P

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This looks like that dream sequence we saw where Loki chop off Thor's hand. Maybe the quality of the footage made it seem that way, because this definitely looks like part of the movie and not a dream or vision or something like that.

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Yep it`s definitely infamous "handgate" and after that Loki takes Jane and present her to Mal&Kurse. And after that armored sequence so that "handgate" is going according to plan.

I just find it odd really that Loki if accepted his role as a Jotun King things could have been different.
Think about it. If Odin would have done what Loki said and told him who he really was very early on, Loki might not be as messed up in either the comics or the movie.

Yep and I love how they play that in the first film. Odin feels a bit of shame, he knows a large part of his son's anger and resentment are down to him.

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I dont see how that is being an arrogant jerk, he was right to say that, Loki said he remember Thor "tossing him into an abyss" when that is clearly not what happened at the end of Thor, Thor tried everything to save him and it was Loki who let go of the sceptre. So claiming Thor threw him into that abyss is an imagined slight, Thor was just calling it what it was.

When Loki speaks on these topics, to me it is clear that is far more then the one incident. That he is projecting. Thor's behavior over the years, as he is very much the boy we see at the start of Thor, was crap. And he was rewarded with the throne. Why? Because he is Odin's "actual" son. Loki had his rightful place as a king taken from him by Odin, he was stolen from his true family, leaving him an unknowing outsider. And yet Loki has no knowledge of why he feels this way. Why he feels this need to prove himself to his father, to displace the brother. A brother that Loki clearly loves.

Loki might be defending his wounded pride in that moment, but there is a lot of macro truth to his words.

__________________"I've been running scams on the street since I was ten. I was kicked out of the flight academy for having a mind of my own. I'm going be a pilot. Best in the galaxy."

Yep and I love how they play that in the first film. Odin feels a bit of shame, he knows a large part of his son's anger and resentment are down to him.

When Loki speaks on these topics, to me it is clear that is far more then the one incident. That he is projecting. Thor's behavior over the years, as he is very much the boy we see at the start of Thor, was crap. And he was rewarded with the throne. Why? Because he is Odin's "actual" son. Loki had his rightful place as a king taken from him by Odin, he was stolen from his true family, leaving him an unknowing outsider. And yet Loki has no knowledge of why he feels this way. Why he feels this need to prove himself to his father, to displace the brother. A brother that Loki clearly loves.

Loki might be defending his wounded pride in that moment, but there is a lot of macro truth to his words.

Thing is, even as Gods, how do you a child, one that you have grown to love that his real father basically threw him away?

When Loki speaks on these topics, to me it is clear that is far more then the one incident. That he is projecting. Thor's behavior over the years, as he is very much the boy we see at the start of Thor, was crap. And he was rewarded with the throne. Why? Because he is Odin's "actual" son. Loki had his rightful place as a king taken from him by Odin, he was stolen from his true family, leaving him an unknowing outsider. And yet Loki has no knowledge of why he feels this way. Why he feels this need to prove himself to his father, to displace the brother. A brother that Loki clearly loves.

Loki might be defending his wounded pride in that moment, but there is a lot of macro truth to his words.

He wasnt stolen though, Odin clearly states baby Loki had been abandoned when he found him, its also implied its because he was "small for a giants offspring" if Odin hadnt taken him he would have died on Jotunheim.

If Loki believes what you say in bolded part, then this is another 'imagined slight' as its not true. Plus he is outright wrong saying that Thor tossed him into the abyss, Loki dived right into it of his own accord.