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after the league learned that frye had a jumper, u see what the defense did to him....**** him down....he can only hit open shots dogg, not contested sots, hell, i can hit an open J if u give me some room. Fry's Jumper is not as consistant as randolphs, and if u think so, i doubt that u watch as much basketball as me, ar any other ball fan. So IMO, the randolph curry tanem will work alot better than oden/frye.....i cant really say that oden had a good passing game, because i never saw him do anything great in that department....

also, no1 has actually "seen" what oden can do against NBA centers in the paint....dont forget that kwame brown dominated the paint in high school...and was also a number 1 pick...so u cant really bank on oden

and....one more thing, frye did not bring out david lee's talent....david lee, brought out david lee's game....he hustled on the boards and got easy baskets...that had nothing to do with channing ffrye

IMO, (and it was Curry's problem too before last year) was that last year compared to his Rookie Year Frye was just way too passive. There were times that he honestly looked like he stayed away from the ball and just settled to catch and shoot. I think if Frye just brings that back he can be a legit 17ppg 8rpg player.

8 rebs?? are u kidding me? u mean with oden down he can get 8.....frye still night not even start....joel pryzbilla is gonna run center, and aldridge is gonna play power....frye bareley 5 rebs a game in the east...come on, lest be real now...even in his "great" rookie year, he didnt average 6....frye is not a rebounder...get over it

reason being, frye averaged more minutes in his sophmore season, with 26.3 minutes in 72 games....more time, and more games to prove himself, and he had less rebounds, a significant point drop, from 12.3 to 9.5, his free throw percentage dropped from 83 to 78&#37; (whom you can place no blame on, but himself), blockes dropped, overall, he became worse. NBA players dont respect rookies, especially if that rookie is a sleeper....in fryes rookie season he caught a lot of players by surprise, thats why his numbers were so good...now frye gets a little defense and what happens....he folds. And last year the east's bigs were weak, there are only about 5 bigs in the east who really dominate the post and boards. I liked him as a rookie, but i hated him last year...he missed far too many shots...his FG% almost dropped 5 percent. Now he has to make contested shots, which he had a problem doing, he barely made his open shts last season

Take is easy on Channing..

There is still a lot of potential for him. Yes he is soft, needs to gain a little weight, and play a little more nasty, But he has a good shot, and appeared to work hard on his post game while he was here. He just needs to keep working at it.

If he were to start in Portland, and they went to him enough, he'd certainly be worth 17 a game. He needs to defend and rebound better, and maybe a change of scenery will help. But this could be his big shot. COULD.

Channing Frye is a young player that co-exist with teammates that play both sides of the court. Under Coach McMillian Frye will probably be a work in process like alot of his young teammates. But when they all establish each others talents under Coach McMillian their opositions will give them credit for being a young team playing "TEAM-BALL". No Portland may not make the playoffs in the next two seasons as alot of other Western Conference young teams did. However they will establish a growing presence in the West.

I never said anything about Channing Frye going into his third season in the NBA being a better scorer or rebounder than Zach Randolph, but Channing Frye is a better Teammate than Zach, Curry, Francis, and Marbury. The trade should have prove that to everyone.
The Knicks longest WINNING streak last season, both Frye & Lee received way more playingtime (33 mpg) than Eddy Curry (24 mpg) during that Winning Streak if you check the game schedule of last season.
We should not forget the position that Coach Zeke had Frye playing last season with the majority of his playingtime alongside of Curry & Jefferies whom both are 6.11 and alergic to rebounding but clogging up the paint.

i love channing because he hit some big shots for us and he was really great in the beginning of his rookie season until larry brown crushed his dreams. i'm just gonna blame brown for frye's lack of growth. i remember we traded kurt thomas and i thought how can we replace him? he had a very accurate mid range jumper at the time (i dont know if he still does because i only watch knick games). and channing just came in and started hitting 15 footers all the time. it was great while it lasted. if he turns into a superstar it'll make me sick to my stomach.

Fickle so-called knick fans, I wonder what you so-called knick fans might say if David Lee came into this season and averaged 8 points and 6 rebounds, would all the praise that has been given to him.
For people not to see that Channing Frye's role was changed last season from his rookie season is just so called knick fans being so-called knick fans.. Channing Frye will show his skills even without being a starter. I can't say how many points he will score or how many rebounds he might pull down, but he'll have a good season, and my thing all along, with the randolph frye trade is not that Frye is a better player than Randolph, he is not... But I truly believe that he would be a better fit than Randolph along side Curry. I think Frye has a real good chance at becoming a defensive stopper with a decent offensive game, something that the Knicks need more than another offensive body. I keep stressing need when I post, but I guess I'm talking to myself. the knicks DO NOT NEED another offensive powerhouse...
What's done is done though.. Channing will do well, Zach will score his points and grab his rebounds.. hopefully curry has learned to block shots and pick up his D, because Zach sure won't.. and maybe we could win a couple games this s eason

Fickle so-called knick fans, I wonder what you so-called knick fans might say if David Lee came into this season and averaged 8 points and 6 rebounds, would all the praise that has been given to him.
For people not to see that Channing Frye's role was changed last season from his rookie season is just so called knick fans being so-called knick fans.. Channing Frye will show his skills even without being a starter. I can't say how many points he will score or how many rebounds he might pull down, but he'll have a good season, and my thing all along, with the randolph frye trade is not that Frye is a better player than Randolph, he is not... But I truly believe that he would be a better fit than Randolph along side Curry. I think Frye has a real good chance at becoming a defensive stopper with a decent offensive game, something that the Knicks need more than another offensive body. I keep stressing need when I post, but I guess I'm talking to myself. the knicks DO NOT NEED another offensive powerhouse...
What's done is done though.. Channing will do well, Zach will score his points and grab his rebounds.. hopefully curry has learned to block shots and pick up his D, because Zach sure won't.. and maybe we could win a couple games this s eason

WOW! you said it better than me.

How good does a PG player have to be for Isiah Thomas to give him Marbury Starting position???