I'm at a loss for what exactly the update is supposed to bring since I've heard no specific information on the exact date of when it'll be rolled out, unlike the update for Roamio that got pushed out on October 17th with a great long changelog. There has been a vague mention of an improved Netflix application somewhere online, but of course without that Premiere specific changelog it's all going to be speculation. If this is supposed to be the exact same update for the Roamio why wasn't it released on the same day? Does TiVo need these extra days to screw it up so we'll be disgusted and purchase Roamios?

I'm at a loss for what exactly the update is supposed to bring since I've heard no specific information on the exact date of when it'll be rolled out, unlike the update for Roamio that got pushed out on October 17th with a great long changelog.

Why would Margaret post a change log for an update which isn't out yet?

Via various back channels, I can tell you it'll bring DTA, more HD screens, a variety of bug fixes. I'm well over 50/50 new Netlifx, Youtube, and DIAL will make an appearance without the Roamio UI elements expected next year. I'm sure there will be other and more detailed info available when the time comes.

Dave, so we can know what to expect and look forward to and know what is going to be fixed and what is not, instead of us trying to figure out what they fixed and didn't fix, and what was broken and what wasn't broken like we did for the 20.3.1 update. How good are your back channels? I saw your page about the update and the twitter post about the Roamio UI coming in 2014 but I don't know if it's gonna come for retail units or if it's just going to be for MSO units from RCN. I don't want to get disappointed, ya know? What is DIAL? What bug fixes specifically are going to be fixed? Are they going to fix the dang program description truncation or bring back the motherboard temperature degree symbol or the many other things they broke in the 20.3.1 update?

Dave, so we can know what to expect and look forward to and know what is going to be fixed and what is not, instead of us trying to figure out what they fixed and didn't fix, and what was broken and what wasn't broken like we did for the 20.3.1 update.

Margret has confirmed a few fixes along the way, just not in a list. If this release really does include Netflix and YouTube updates, they may also be planning a press unveil of some sort. Likewise, my Spidey sense is signaling out-of-home Roamio streaming is a lock for this month. Just a question of this week or next.

So you want to bitch about what is not included sooner rather than later? That makes no sense to me but you can request anything you like.

Margret has done a great job providing us a list upon the initial release to those who signed up for the priority release. Your complaints seem premature, as there is nothing to indicate this will not take place this time around.

I signed up for the release. Do you know if there is an official thread regarding the sign up?

Thanks for the info on the release. Is there any word on fixes to TiVo desktop for MACs? Can't display my photo library on Premier. Get database error and have rebuilt iPhoto libraries, repaired disk permissions, etc. to address possible problems on the MAC end.

Only wish that TiVo was faster at updating software. They tend to be extremely slow and not fully forth coming with what is being fixed or updated. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy my TiVo's a lot. Just would like to see bugs fixed faster. Also, on the premiere line, it would be nice doe the UI to be updated so that it can be a little faster. I've read an update to the UI is coming next year. Hopefully that is the case. :-)