with new ideasandenergy. andthey saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 trillion tax cut. and he said i don't have time. mitt romney said we just don't do math. like math doesn't exist. let me finish. you simply cannot wish away the existence of your entire campaign platform. as inconvenient as it may be when somebody says to you, ok, if you're going to reduce revenue by $4. trillion, you're not going to tell us one loophole you'd close, you're not going to run up the deficit or taxes on the middle class. >> very quickly -- >> no, no. it goes back to bill clinton. >> there was a story out yesterday that that claim is fiction because you don't count the loophole closing. >> what looph

andenergyalittle later on. >>> first, as you probably know, a grim outlook for hp sent shares down 13% yesterday. ceo meg whitman expects revenues and profits for the tech giant to decline in the near term saying unprecedented executive turnovers led to inconsistent strategic choices. our david faber is with meg whitman. david, good morning to you. >> reporter: thanks very much, carl. of course, well, you can certainly give them credit perhaps for transparency, hewle hewle hewlett-packard yesterday laying out a plan tofor remaking the company for next year they're calling a fix and rebuild year. as you said, the stock took a hit on that news. we are joined by the ceo of hewlett-packard, meg whitman joins us from headquarters in palo alto. as always, very much appreciate your willingness to come on in what are seemingly very difficult times. you and i sat down a little more than a year ago when you first joined the company. and i guess my first question would simply be what took you so long? a year is quite a while in the history of a company, certainly one that seems to be in some dis

're in the expansion camp, you wantfinancials,energy, materials.in the contraction camp, you're generally on the defensive side. the trade everybody's been talking about, jim you alluded to it, it's to play the u.s. market, play autos, housing, consumer staples. i call it the home depot trade. it's been a monster. that's the classic trade to play in these circumstances. i have a couple of problems with this. number one, cyclicals have outperformed defensive names in the last couple of months since this has been a very popular notion out there. since june overall, earnings and stocks have been somewhat negatively correlated. we've seen earnings come down and yet the stock markets continue to move up. in the last few weeks, really hold right near its highs. you can argue and there is certainly truth to that that that's because we have q.e. 3, because we've got the ecb in the market. but i look at the facts of where the market is, not necessarily what's been moving it every minute. that's what i see right now. today, the european bailout fund is coming into effect. if spain keeps going along

which direction to take the nation. "squawk" will be right back. one is for a clean,wedomesticenergyfuturethat puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. >>> welcome back, everybody. the economy obviously front and center this week with the jobs report coming out on friday. our guest host this morning runs a company that has several economic indicators all rolled into one. joining us for the remainder of the show with his take on the markets and what's happening in corporate america is jim tisch, and jim, it's great to have you here onset. we were just talking about how you have a lot of different things that really give you a good idea of what's happening in the economy. diamond offshore, what's happening from an energy perspective, you have the luxur

and to dump 40 million people to wait intheenergyroemergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president obama back in the lead at 50 to 45. what a difference from the other polyp that's exactly where the race stood before the debate. romney had surged in the tracking poll. the two candidates were actually tied in the three days immediately after the debate, but the president seems to have wiped out romney's gains in the gallup poll. joining me right now are howard fineman, edi

. >> thank you so much, rick. let's check out the latest movesinenergyandmetals. sharon at the nymex. >> the momentum here definitely in the metals market. i'm standing in the gold pit. gold prices went above $1,794 an ounce. a lot of investors may have looked at the s&p 500's returns, that's decent. but gold up over 10% in the last quarter. silver up over 25% in the last quarter. they want some more of that in the fourth quarter. and we're looking at that here in the metals market. also looking at momentum taking over, the weak sentimental data out of china in terms of the oil price. the oil prices here are a little bit of a bid for oil. the fact that they lowered a mix a little while ago before the open on the weak data out of china on their manufacturing numbers. in terms of the biggest mover here in the commodities space, definitely it is natural gas. natural gas at a ten-month high. natural gas here above 3.40. some are saying that $3 gas is sustainable here even if we don't see the same focus on coal to gas switching. still going to see higher natural gas prices. back to you. >

governor romney talked about creating 4 million jobs by embracinganenergyindependencefor north america. i have the ceo of the largest pipeline builder on my other show "mad money" last night. he said 4 million is reasonable, but the federal government is not being helpful. i know you favor all sort of energy, solar, fantastic. what do you say about the 4 million? >> actually, a say that we need to create more jobs across the board and particularly, highly skilled people to work in the refinery and production areas where we're finding more energy and we have to have a balance, so i'm totally for that. i encourage more a perennisship programs and training in that area. we have a high need for welders and people working in refineries and i'm all for paying for those jobs and looking at other alternative forms of energy and we have to have a balance of both. >> the unemployment rate falling below 8% for the first time since january 2009 and i'm sure the labor department was hearing about that this morning. at the same time, can you tell the american people that this 7.8 number marks the tu

of texas intheenergybusiness,that investors are very focused on, it's a three-member utility commission that is going to make that decision. they are appointed by the governor. big debate between the president and his republican challenger, mitt romney. it wasn't that long ago that rick perry was one of the challengers for the republican nomination for president. i asked him what he thinks romney is going to do tonight and how he is going to do in tonight's debate. >> this president has to defend the debt that's being created and i think governor romney's going to do a very good job of one of growth, of one of allowing the states to be more engaged in policies. >> reporter: so, of course, he thinks romney is going to do good tonight. is he partisan, no doubt about that. we'll see how it plays out. >> david, i understand that you're still going to talk to kyle bass in a few minutes. what is top of questions in your mind? >> kyle is a big macro thinker. he also runs a hedge fund that makes stock picks like everybody else. we're also going to talk about, first off, the growing debt world w

so we can allproduceenergymoresafely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. >>> our guest host craig barrett, former chairman and ceo of intel. it's really good to have you. this is like twice in the last three weeks you've been on, isn't it? >> it's a pleasure to be with you guys. >> we'll talk tech, first of all, do you feel total, do you feel like a generation wire? are you totally insync with everything in technology now or do you harbor any resentment to all this new stuff, craig, having been at intel in the glory days? >> hey the beauty of tech is everything changes every year or every six months and t

't exploited the full potential, we have alternative sourceofenergylikesolarenergyorwindenergy, wehave agricultural output that we don't take advantage of, so there are ma so many resources and opportunities in greece, it's not a matter of the private sector doing poorly or a lack of resources, but it's rather how the state is operating, we have a big public sector as you know, we have tax evasion and we have no privatizations. if we change these things if we're not a state controlled economy but instead a private controlled economy we can see a different picture and to me by staying in the european union this is where we should concentrate. it's not how much you value the currency or you divide the labor cost but what kind of economy you are, where you wish to go. >> that's similar to the debate we seem to be having here in the united states. thanks so much for joining us this morning and congratulations on your deal and good luck with it. >> thank you very much. >> thanks for playing, sam. that was helpful. good to have you on the set. >> just look at that shot, crumbling infrastruct

into the electric network. they don't worry about whether it's generated by coal or solar or wind or howtheenergyiscreated. they ignore that. that's handled by the electric service provider. they don't have to make huge investments in creating more electricity. it's all done as a service. computing is now being offered for the first time, if you will, over the last few years as a service in the cloud. it means the consumers don't have to get bogged down with the complexity of computing. they don't have to make a huge capital investment. they just plug n run their applications. >> tell me about the world today. there's a concern that things are slowing, not just at oracle, but throughout business because of the global slowdown. that's what we saw in the latest earnings release that you reported. and there's a change in terms of data. data has changed. and you've got to keep up with this changing data coming from all sorts of mobile devices, et cete cetera. tell me about business right now around the world. what are you seeing? >> actually, our business is fairly good. i know in reported u.s. dol

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in one day in ohio. we havegreatenergy. thegovernor's going to win this state, it's going to be close, he's going to win. >> he said race changed on wednesday he's talking about the debate. yeah. i don't think so. i'm not feeling it on the ground. i've been here in ohio. i don't feel it. i think people definitely have an opinion about how the debate went, but at the end of the day it's going to matter about what policies. if mitt romney is going to privatize the medicare program and turn it into a voucher system, and the voucher only goes up two or 3% a year when everyone knows health care costs don't go up 2 or 3% a year, or gut the medicare program, we were a he an older state, we have a lot of seniors that access the medicaid programs for nursing homes, people who have children with disabilities access the medicaid program in ohio, when they see the romney/ryan budget when it hits the ground, he's going to lose. he's just not going to be able to carry enough independent voters. as i said on top of the auto rescue, we have people that have actually felt the obama policies help them.

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