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Police said 25-year-old Farzana Iqbal was stoned to death by her family for marrying the man she loved.

LAHORE: A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside the Lahore High Court on Tuesday in a so-called “honour” killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.

Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.

Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in hospital, police said.

All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour.

Cheema said Farzana had been engaged to her cousin but married another man. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Farzana had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.

Arranged marriages are the norm among conservative Pakistanis, who view marriage for love as a transgression.

Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.

The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.

Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.

Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.

But in honour killings, most of the time the women’s killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to carry out the murder, then forgive him.

“This is a huge flaw in the law,” he said. “We are really struggling on this issue.”

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During the time of our prophet, 1400 years ago Arabs were more modern and open minded than the people who live in Pakistan in 2014.

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MuslimMay 27, 2014 06:13pm

Shame on society. Most backward .

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imtiazMay 27, 2014 06:13pm

In religious cultures women are owned by father, husband, brothers and sons.

At death alone she wins her coveted freedom.

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georgeMay 27, 2014 06:18pm

The stone age has reached Pakistan after all.

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Raj PatelMay 27, 2014 06:20pm

Where were the police guarding LHC or there is no one securing LHC ?? What a pity ?? Pakistan needs to safe guard it's Justice installation at least. I think it is a crime to born as a woman in Pakistani society and they are paying the price. RIP Lady.

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daniel shigerMay 27, 2014 06:23pm

Congratulations Mr PM and all other political parties who were in government, including member of parliments both provincial and national and salute to the army generals who have been in power so far. This is the fruit of your untiring efforts to bring law and order in place in Pakistan so far. Incidents like this do not happen spontaneously.
Make his a hero like Qadri. Keep doing this and one day Pakistan will be full of heros.

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ZalmayMay 27, 2014 06:29pm

Badla hai Punjab, Badlengay Pakistan?
This is PMLN's good-governance after ruling Punjab for nearly 25 years?
And then they have guts to point fingers at others? Shame :(

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iqbalrangoonwalaMay 27, 2014 06:29pm

shame high court and high court police

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VikramMay 27, 2014 06:29pm

But in honour killings, most of the time the women

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iqbalrangoonwalaMay 27, 2014 06:29pm

this is NEW PAKISTAN

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JunaidMay 27, 2014 06:30pm

Well murder in the name of anything other self defense is a murder and should be punished accordingly.

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FurqanMay 27, 2014 06:32pm

Let me tell you all the upcoming commentators who will blame ISLAM about this that in this particular case ISLAM does not allow such kind of punishment. Female and Male got married (Nikah) by their will, in this case the most that their family can do is to make them separate (Tallaq) if the Financial standard of the Male is lower than that of female family. This is illiteracy and related to cultural backwardness, BUT it has nothing to do with ISLAM. Please research and then comment. Thanks

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Amir MahmoodMay 27, 2014 06:34pm

What a tragic incidence, I am a 52 years man and feel like crying even though I am thousands of miles away from Farzana. How can you kill another human being by stoning and that human being happens to be your daughter, sister, cousin. There was nobody close by to intervene and stop the cold blooded beasts specially by the High Court area. I believe Farzana was a brave young girl she did what she thought is right for her and she died for that. But most of her male family members will still live a miserable life.

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SeedooMay 27, 2014 06:36pm

Please catch all the culprits and bring them to justice. I am against death penalty, so I ask for nothing less than life sentences without any chance of parole for these savage family members.

We must send a clear message to the society that such behavior will not be tolerated.

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ShimatoreeMay 27, 2014 06:37pm

The issue of targeted Murder against women is the ultimate Terror weapon. It is the expression of extreme Dishonesty on the part of those that claim that somehow it is honorable to kill a human being to satisfy their whims.

But what is far more heinous is the Law which was promulgated at the behest of the religious establishment who claim legitimacy directly from the Almighty and thus no argument is possible. The very idea that someone can be allowed to forgive a Murder-( for money or pressure)- is preposterous.
All the same religious folks moaned and complained when the Zardari regime used this very same law to let the American CIA agent go-( who had killed 2 young men in Lahore)-.

It is shocking that this incident and others likewise are the last thing that the TV news media wish to bring forth to the population. Maybe if they did

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georgeMay 27, 2014 06:42pm

In the court there were many people. What were they doing? Couldn't they stop this?

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ash.kareemMay 27, 2014 06:42pm

what a shameful and heinous act.

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aliMay 27, 2014 06:43pm

i am in utter shock, but also in peace when collective thinking of society is such Painful Death is inevitable.

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ash.kareemMay 27, 2014 06:44pm

honor killing is a scourge for the Pakistani society.

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AyshaMay 27, 2014 06:45pm

Will anyone come out in streets to protest against this barbarism? I beg Pakistanis who are reading this, please please please talk to your friends/family and arrange a peaceful protest to show that there are some humans left in Pakistan who are willing to raise a voice against these brutalities.

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nakMay 27, 2014 06:46pm

sick mentality as a result of jahalat.

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aliMay 27, 2014 06:46pm

Absolutely pathetic society. Grievances apart, how can a murder take part outside a courtroom and the assailants get away???
That too in a major city like Lahore. Hardly any coverage on TV.

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Tahir AMay 27, 2014 06:46pm

Simply barbaric.

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HilariousMay 27, 2014 06:47pm

We in South Asia should be ashamed of ourselves. Such brutality, to our own family girls, is unforgivable.
Here in India too this is a common occurrence - just request you Pakistanis to keep the above article in mind when you abuse India

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AyshaMay 27, 2014 06:47pm

I dont know where was God when all this was happening and why didnt he send someone to rescue this woman?

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ReaderMay 27, 2014 06:54pm

Shame, shame, shame on us!! We have no right to call ourselves Muslims! We let this kind of barbarism go on in today's day and age and then wonder why we are the laughing stock of the whole world, why no one even cares to spit on us!

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jenMay 27, 2014 07:02pm

"Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer". I think it must be from Sharia. is there anything called civil society in Pakistan? The whole country should be on streets demanding justice to this soul? But that needs to go against sharia. Oops, vicious cycle again.

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Arif May 27, 2014 07:03pm

Worse than animals.

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RaghuMay 27, 2014 07:06pm

So Pak is a land of pure? "Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings"

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muhammadMay 27, 2014 07:06pm

We are still living in stoneage Islam has changed nothing in our side of world except the names

Women in pakistan should start keeping guns with them to protect themselves from these animals.
A man (especially brothers/father) are protector of daughters/sisters, just imagine how it would feel when your protector turns into a monster and attacks you.

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HiraMay 27, 2014 07:13pm

Every time I feel we cannot fall any further we grab the shovel and start digging.

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Joe FLMay 27, 2014 07:23pm

Sick. In the name of "god", a family can nominate a person to kill another person in their family, then can forgive him -- and the country's law allows it. Such an act automatically assumes the victim was guilty, even though she was killed while seeking justice at a court of law.

Disgusting, depraved, and sick to the extreme.

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YouthMay 27, 2014 07:25pm

"All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour"

A big kick to his honour, arrest all the killers & punish them. It needs guts to take such severe action to deliver justice & help prevent such occurrence in the future. Who has this guts, the most that will happen will be an order for an inquiry & like several other such cases this killing will also die & buried in legal papers. This is where I praise the quick deliverance of justice in an Arab country

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Irfan HusainMay 27, 2014 07:25pm

For this monstrous murder to happen outside the Lahore High Court makes me ashamed to be a Pakistani.

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Samina May 27, 2014 07:26pm

This is outrageous!!! Police stood there watching an innocent girl being killed.

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@expatMay 27, 2014 07:26pm

Heights of cruelty and savagery.A shame that she was murdered just outside the building where she was supposed to get justice and protection.Killers spat on the face of the judiciary,police,government and the humanity.True ,she acted against the general norms of our society,but did they listen when she refused to marry her chosen fianc

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Ganga DinMay 27, 2014 07:32pm

This is a double homicide in broad day light. Very unfortunate that two people in love cannot get married. Marriage is a binding commitment for rest of your life and should not be imposed by any one.

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AniMay 27, 2014 07:32pm

Ya Allah!!!!!!!!!!

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Syed FahadMay 27, 2014 07:34pm

Can you please provide what part of constitution allows this.

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M1968May 27, 2014 07:34pm

Yet again, only in Pakistan. And in front of justice and the law of the nation.

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SiyalkotiaMay 27, 2014 07:35pm

Islamic Republic Of Pakistan, Zindabad.

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AsrafMay 27, 2014 07:36pm

On 23 May 1430, Joan of Arc was captured at Compi

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Calcutta ManMay 27, 2014 07:37pm

It's a not firing a bullet from a gun and disappearing into the crowd. It's stoning to death. It takes time. Enough time for bystanders to react, intervene, call the cops,something, anything... Nothing?

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PakistaniMay 27, 2014 07:42pm

No rule of law at all. We're really trying hard to be part of the backward arab and african countries

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AZMAISH May 27, 2014 07:45pm

This killing was not an " honor " killing, it's a most "dishonorable" and shameful blight on Quaid's dream of a just nation.

In such cases when Pakistan's brave females try to pursue a legal avenue not endorsed by their illiterate and provincial minded family members the results are tragic. Therefore, one solution to such mindless and cold blooded murders which these cowardly crimes are committed, is to first and foremost protect these females from these vicious family members. There should be special high security courts set up for women only where no men are permitted, and where even the judges and security should be all female. There should be CCTV coverage of all areas, including outside and inside the halls and courtrooms and entry to these court buildings should have metal detection and ID verified entry.

Too many females are being victimized in this unspeakable manner where male members of these rural and undereducated families are taking the law into their own hands and twisting Islamic Sharia to suit their vile illegal crimes.

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LyraMay 27, 2014 07:46pm

Pakistan.. a land of Animals?
Even animals dont kill their offsprings

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Muhammed AliMay 27, 2014 07:46pm

Pakistan has become a sick nation...living in the dark ages...

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AhmedMay 27, 2014 07:46pm

Right lets round them up and do exactly what they did to her. About time we set some standards ...
And no the laws will not be repealed/reformed because those currently tasked with doing so know that their daughters will not suffer the same fate as this lady .... so why would they pull their finger out?

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NaseerMay 27, 2014 07:49pm

This incident happened right outside of Lahore High Court. Where was the police? Investigate the police before investigating the killers.

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Musa Ali KhanMay 27, 2014 07:52pm

very bad and heartbreaking story,,,is norm rather than exception in a lawless country

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bktMay 27, 2014 07:59pm

Lahore, Lahore is. Fun people to die with!

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Ismat May 27, 2014 08:02pm

All the perpetrators of this heinous crime must be brought to justice and given exemplary punishment.

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Syed AhmedMay 27, 2014 08:05pm

What honour? Was the first person who threw brick at Ms Farzana Iqbal was sadiq and ameen? Will all other assailants affirm that they never did anything that is dishonourable like cheating on a spouse, not fulfilling a promise to a child, stealing money or any other thing, plagiarism of any kind, lying or indulging in falsehood, not respecting parents or other members of the family, acting in an unethical way in business, not sincere with their job.
Marrying someone of her choice is never a dishonourable act for which the girl was inhumanly tortured to death by the family. All of them must be tried for murder.

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IjazMay 27, 2014 08:08pm

"All the suspects except her father escaped". How credible is this? Were there no policemen or other security officials stationed outside the court, or did they do the usual Punjab Police trick of turning away as the victim had not filed a complaint?

This beggars belief. Why are the other perpetrators still at large?

All the assailants should be charged with murder because it is a pre-meditated murder they have committed. Then we will see where their honour lies!

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CanuckMay 27, 2014 08:09pm

I live in the west. One day in school a teacher said in front of whole class that certain countries in south east Asia are thousand years behind. He included Pakistan's name in that list. I was very offended and asked him not to stereotype.

Well 1000 women killed in honor killing? Today I am wondering if he was right?

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MurthyMay 27, 2014 08:11pm

For medical reasons consanguineous marriages are never good and I have read somewhere that this practice among certain communities in Pakistan has resulted in extreme congenital defects, passed from generations of such marriages. I think the govt and even TV channels should start a mass campaign against consanguineous marriages. May be, more education will bring about the changes necessary after sustained effort in that direction. Sorry to learn that such gruesome deaths of honour still happen, not only in Pakistan but also India. When will we learn to respect the likes and sentiments of our own children? Is snuffing out a young life a solution?

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NarenMay 27, 2014 08:18pm

Zak and Taimoor...are you commenting on this?

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tomMay 27, 2014 08:18pm

Western society and culture will never quite get used to this sort of behavior and belief by Eastern societies. Hopefully some day it will be seen everywhere as barbaric with nothing to do with religion. What religion condones such behavior? None.

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think_then_speakMay 27, 2014 08:26pm

Kill more in the name of religion, honour and if nothing just for fun....

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OmarFLMay 27, 2014 08:27pm

"This is a huge flaw in the law" ??? Seriously? Is this "in our law"?

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Sayyar KhanMay 27, 2014 08:31pm

In front of a HIGH COURT was there no one to stop this. No Police no human.

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RubenMay 27, 2014 08:32pm

Stone age country....

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Sultan Alvi, CanadaMay 27, 2014 08:36pm

O' God, what a barbaric country we call Pakistan!

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Ronald ArifMay 27, 2014 08:36pm

THis is another act that portrays how barbaric Pakistani society has become.

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SamiMay 27, 2014 08:44pm

A woman stoned to death outside Lahore High Court? Where were police, lawyers and general public when this girl was being stoned. This show how Pakistani law enforcing agents including lawyers are so impotent and heartless. This is disgusting.

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waseemMay 27, 2014 08:48pm

Although a bad act, but it shouldn't be called stoning ! You are just defacing Pakistan.

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BKMay 27, 2014 08:51pm

SHAME ON US!!!!

What kind of country are we living in? How can we tolerate such a heinous crime? Who gives the right to men to act like God and kill women?

Women have the right to live life the way they want and marry the person they want. THIS RIGHT IS GIVEN TO THEM BY ISLAM, why are men depriving women of rights given to them by Allah.

Don't understand what kind of honor they restore by killing innocent women? Do they really think that such an act would make them honorable in the eyes of Allah?

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MusiaMay 27, 2014 08:52pm

" ... said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation."... What is a MAN doing in AURAT Foundation?

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MansoorMay 27, 2014 08:58pm

guys no comments.......why? is it a sensitive issue again. I always seen if any columns publish in DAWN about religion. People don't comment except saying worst things about politics and politicians.
Come on Pakistani people wake up and open up your eyes. Is this the RELIGION we were taught by our prophet MOHAMMAD(SAW). We are killing innocent people for the sake of religion. please STOP this killing.

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MuslimMay 27, 2014 08:58pm

I don't see anything wrong with it. This is totally Islamic and sharia allows it.

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MirzaMay 27, 2014 09:02pm

Pre-meditated murders can not be forgiven . In Saudi Arabia that's how this law is interpreted. Only accidental deaths (murders) are forgiven. Our good-for-nothing Moulvis and so-called Allamas should sit down and make this law clear about this fact.

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MansoorMay 27, 2014 09:03pm

What am I reading. In Lahore high court of all places. Judges, Do you have the courage to dispense justice to Farzana. Shahbaz Sharief, Encounter specialist-- can you provide justice to Farzana. Imran Khan, Can you do "Insaf" . Pakistani society do you have the capacity to reflect, can you search your soul, is this Ghairat to kill your daughter and sister and be proud about. Act of terror, ATC and summery execution.

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S. KhanMay 27, 2014 09:06pm

Shame on us.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 27, 2014 09:08pm

Bunch of Animals!!! They still need Sharia Laws!!! Stoned to death infront of High Court? Chief Justice, Shahbaz Sharif and the Police Chief ...Shame On You...Doob Ke Mar Jao!!!

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atifMay 27, 2014 09:08pm

what khadim e aala is going to do? what about the cj of lhc?
a real shame

It is so obvious that police was in on it. All the policemen and women present in the vicinity should immediately be fired. The men who committed this heinous crime must be hanged to death. There is no need for lengthy investigation. Just do it and do it fast. Oh, I know, the human rights campaigners will object. Ya, they should, but it does not matter. Kill the killers if you want peace.

Apathy in Pakistani society has no bounds. We should probably lease our country to a foreign power, possibly China, for 50 to 100 years so as to eliminate the ills in our society. Give them complete powers, which will be according to Hadith as well.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 27, 2014 09:12pm

Where is Imran Khan "The Saviour" ... Where is his Dharna...Is he a leader? Shame

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N SMay 27, 2014 09:16pm

Hand over Pakistan to a country like China for 50 to 100 year lease, with powers to fix the enmire society, starting with Army, religious zealots, politicians, bureaucrats add what not. What an animal we are? Apathy at the highest level is killing us.

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Riaz MurtazaMay 27, 2014 09:18pm

This is not the real Islam. The first condition of marriage is the consent of a man and woman to get married. In my opinion cousin marriages should be stopped for humanity. This family should have solved the matter within. There was no fault of her that she wanted to marry another person.

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PaulMay 27, 2014 09:21pm

Are you sure you are ready to give moral support to indian muslims?.....from the holy book....

"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? "

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IrumMay 27, 2014 09:29pm

@Muslim You are joking , right ?

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Sarah1May 27, 2014 09:32pm

This is perfectly in line with Islam, the greatest religion!! Please continue to follow that.

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IzyMay 27, 2014 09:40pm

@Muslim You'are an embarrassment.

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SMQ ZamanMay 27, 2014 09:44pm

Another act of 'barbarism' against a young woman of 25 year-old (a case of Romeo & Juliet, very much in love) and 'adult and sui juris' in the misconceived 'Name of Faith' and misplaced 'Honour', and what's more revealing and tragic that it was carried out in broad daylight in front of the High Court!

There's no sacredness for life in that country, anymore; and when will this evil social practice by sane people, come to an end?

A British-Pakistani

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TanvirMay 27, 2014 09:46pm

@Muslim Oh, You and other such Muslims! Shame on you! Islam does not allow forced marriages. Go read Quran and stop believing in hear-say. Quran contains verses for attracting women with money and love and if they reject it from any man, that man must move on until he has enough money or is able to receive consent of the woman. There is no verse that grants fathers and brothers the right to give away their daughters ans sisters in marriage to any man the woman does not like to marry. Please carefully read the Quran after putting down down your hear-say belief.

engaged to cousin? Isnt that against norms of biology....that might result in retarded children

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ALIMay 27, 2014 09:56pm

all i got to say is shame on me for being born in this savage country, where there is no justice for the weak!

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mmMay 27, 2014 09:56pm

imagine what happens to Hindus of the land. recent conversion definately cases of attrocities, lies on part of quiet majority who supports.

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TanvirMay 27, 2014 09:57pm

@Sarah1 - How could you agree with stoning when an adult woman willingly married man of her choice?

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mmMay 27, 2014 09:58pm

@Farrukh BELIEVE ME MODIJEE KO APNAO

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m5May 27, 2014 10:00pm

Rueters please correct yourself and do not mud sling Pakistan. This is a very tragic incidence but should be called murder not stoning. Stoning is something else.

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FeministMay 27, 2014 10:03pm

@Musia You should not advertise your own ignorance.

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ishtiaq nasimMay 27, 2014 10:12pm

@Ruben Stone age country? Are you sure people of that era killed women with stone to protect their "honor"? This country can't be compared with any age because in doing so one insults that era.

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IslamMay 27, 2014 10:13pm

I am shocked at the event and even more at the comments. Family member cannot be the Judge, jury and executioner. That is against Islam.
The crime committed is brutal and all involved should be punish severely.
Nobody should be allowed to take a human life. This is a slap on Punjab police that a person was killed outside a court.

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ishtiaq nasimMay 27, 2014 10:13pm

@Lyra No it isn't. It is a land of inhumans. Pls don't insult animals.

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ishtiaq nasimMay 27, 2014 10:19pm

@Muslim IGNORANT YOU ARE! Read Quran and traditions of our Rasool and then commnent.

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ByjanMay 27, 2014 10:21pm

@Dr. Sehar Khan - Utterly STUPID! Where did it happen? In Lahore or Peshawar? Who rules Punjab? Imran Khan or Shabaz Sharif? Had you given prior information to Imran Khan but he still didn't turn up to save her?

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BipulMay 27, 2014 10:21pm

@m5 People (family members) threw stone on a lady and she died. What else "stoned to death" means?

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MusiaMay 27, 2014 10:22pm

@Feminist - I don't need to do that because YOU are already doing that.

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M. OmarMay 27, 2014 10:23pm

"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
We have turned into a society of barbarians and animal. Have no regard for
human life at all...
And our Council of Islamic Ideology, CII, is advocating legalization of underage marriages.
What a bunch of goofballs.

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fahim sahiMay 27, 2014 10:24pm

We are headed towards creation of Sunni Punjabi emarat of Pakistan, rest of us don't belong here.

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independentthinkerMay 27, 2014 10:42pm

It is absolutely a shame, in the 21st century, we still have such sick people amongst us! If we are still seeing around a thousand "honour killings" (which is an underestimation), what are we doing about it? We cannot locate these people before the crime is committed - but we can at least offer extremely stiff penalties, to make others think twice, before proceeding with this horrendous act.

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Arshad AliMay 27, 2014 10:52pm

seems as if the govt has deliberately let a particular group free with an authority to kill people. reason may be to reduce population as the current number is out or its control

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Fazal KarimMay 27, 2014 10:57pm

This is because of no punishment. Most of the killers of innocent girls will get bail, the cases will prolong for years and finally they will be awarded few years in jail. Where is over active judiciary, why no somoto notice of this and thousads of such crime is not taken by our Chief Justices?

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Arshad AliMay 27, 2014 10:57pm

@waseem you had better visit any dictionary first to know the meaning of 'brick'.. what would you call it if not stoning

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mlaikMay 27, 2014 10:57pm

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raijoon.

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anshMay 27, 2014 11:00pm

she goes for seeking love. ended collecting uncountable hate by her own ...RIP girl :'(

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another muslimMay 27, 2014 11:03pm

@Muslim
Are you serious. They killed her and she was married to that guy

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Arshad AliMay 27, 2014 11:06pm

@Muslim reference if u r sure in your assertion??? u'd better understand 'Surah Nisa'.. a woman is as free in her decisions in respect of marriage as the man.. For God sake, don't use the shield of religion for this barbarous act..

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Ahmer May 27, 2014 11:08pm

Old tradition will change but slowly. Patience is needed.

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SandeepMay 27, 2014 11:09pm

@sarah shah yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!

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SandeepMay 27, 2014 11:11pm

@Muslim When a Male muslim was stonned as per sharia.

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ShabirMay 27, 2014 11:11pm

@Muslim You need to learn Islam before making such barbaric comments which smack not only of utter ignorance but also of defaming Islam.

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SandeepMay 27, 2014 11:18pm

Muslims generally used to say that Hindus practiced Sati.....at least that was our past....what about this stonning...you practice it still in 21 century.

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saeedsMay 27, 2014 11:18pm

@sarah shah
You are right .They are not representing average Pakistani It is one sick family. And there action never support by Pakistan government. That is why culprit runaway because it is a crime in the Pakistan.

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VinayMay 27, 2014 11:20pm

Shame, shame shame...I would like to see every Pakistani to raise their voice against such horrific crimes. I would like to see human right groups arranging protest marches all over Pakistan. I would like to see all Pakistani people to send strong message against the so called "honor killing" to the law makers of Pakistan and force them to take tough actions against such crimes. Pakistani people have a strong voice, and only they can make the difference, if they have will and the courage.

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AhmedMay 27, 2014 11:28pm

@Muslim ... I hope with all my heart that u haven't got a daughter ....... Nor a sister!

It's ironic that I m having to say this to you "Muslim"

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Hasn'tMay 27, 2014 11:28pm

I can't understand,if a family hires a killer to get rid of a family member and then forgive him for the murder does he go free?

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ShahidMay 27, 2014 11:28pm

@Muslim Do you even know what is Sharia law. Sharia gives a woman full right to choose her husband and the parents or others cannot force her to marry anyone. Forced marriages are null and void from sharia point of view. These animals killed an innocent girl who wanted to use her right of marrying the man she loved, the right that is given by Allah (SWT) and no one should be allowed to take away her right, not even the parents. Our society has become pathetic where a girl is murdered in front of the High Court and no one is willing or able to stop them from this heinous crime.

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IntrepidMay 27, 2014 11:29pm

It boggles the mind and defies human logic that a human being was murdered by stoning directly outside a court house (Lahore High Court no less) and there were no witnesses, no police, no law, no order! No one did anything to stop this heinous crime from being perpetrated. I have to wonder about the mindset of these people, people from the victim's family!

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IntrepidMay 27, 2014 11:31pm

@m5 Please! The more you speak, the more it becomes obvious how little you know!

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Dr. Rashid Malik ShahMay 27, 2014 11:36pm

and the peace talks with killers and murderers continue :) why do we reward murderers and killers? are we not a muslim nation?

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MARIA MUREEMay 27, 2014 11:48pm

@Muslim

You're obviously ignorant about what Sharia law and Islam permit.

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independentthinkerMay 27, 2014 11:51pm

@Dr. Sehar Khan
Why are you angry at the Chief Justice and the Police Chief? Did they know that this was going to happen? You can blame the system for going too easy on these criminals, who slaughter their own child to "protect" their family's honor.

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Altaf Hussain, MumbaiMay 27, 2014 11:54pm

I thought 'Honour Killing' is an approved act of Sharia and Pakistan officially being an Islamic Republic, you folks should not have much objection to its implementation. With 1000 girls being stoned to death by their kith & kin every year, this should be a standard practice. What is all this fuss about?

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UxmanMay 27, 2014 11:55pm

What a shame! We blame India for being the worst countrues for women,pakistan is no less than that, For God sake stop these violence against inncont women.

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FatimaMay 27, 2014 11:58pm

There is no honor in this and neither does Islam talk of stoning someone to death over marrying someone. Not even the victims family should have the right to drop Murder charges. A Murder is not a personal crime, but a crime against the people of the nation in many countries, We also need to drop the whole concept of blood money as criminals use it to pressure and bully victims into taking money and letting them go.

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AhmedMay 28, 2014 12:00am

@gatsby has been looking at his own family tree, then looks at himself and concludes what he just has! Given the sound basis on which the conclusion rests, I dare not challenge it and give in hands down!

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UxmanMay 28, 2014 12:03am

The killers will be sentenced to death for sure , but unfortunatly the bribe to corrupt police will free them from prison we want justoce for her

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AbdulMay 28, 2014 12:05am

@Musia An other mafia, trying to get rich.

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MateenMay 28, 2014 12:08am

Every Pakistani is responsible for allowing such laws to still exist. We are all responsible for the murder of Farzana and these honour killings will NOT stop until the people come out on the streets and demand the government to abolish such barbaric laws to exist.

Pakistan needs a genderequality movement. Alot of Pakistani men will hide under the banner of Islam in order to justify every malice they practice against women but Islam never allows the murder of your daughter, be it for honour or otherwise. Forced marriages have no place in Islam.

Come out on the streets and tell this nation, tell this government that Farzana is everyone's sister. If we don't bring change to these laws, tomorrow it could be your sister who suffers like this.

"Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves." (13:11)

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AhmedMay 28, 2014 12:09am

@Muslim I think that you need to learn about sharia law before you talk about something you know nothing about!

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VinayMay 28, 2014 12:11am

@Muslim Then change this law. People, societies and culture change with time for betterment. Does Islam allow a person, male or female to marry other person against their will?

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sarfrazMay 28, 2014 12:12am

Problem is that the Islamic law permit family to forgive the killer - as long as this Law is there some people will continue to use it to their advantage. It will take a secular government to change such Laws and/or general population is educated enough to understand that females and males are equal in deciding their future. Unfortunately most people in Pakistan do not see a need to accept female rights and this also include females blaming other females for male's aggression.

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PankajMay 28, 2014 12:30am

Has stone age came back to Pakistan ?

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Aslam RafiqueMay 28, 2014 12:48am

What a shame for Pakistan and its leaders--federal and provincial. And congratulations to Islamic extremists and bigots for practicing so openly their version of stone-age Islam which they call as true religion. Clearly, this variety of Islam has the passive endorsement of our ruling political elites. Otherwise, such anti-human and anti-civilization events would have been banished a long time back.

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AMMay 28, 2014 12:53am

Because we are muslims and that's what our religion has taught us? kill each other if you do not agree to anything!

Animals!!

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syedMay 28, 2014 12:53am

Us defence secretary once said he send Pak.to stone age. He doesnt need to do anything we are fulfiling his wish.

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AzharMay 28, 2014 12:55am

@Muslim ...you call this shariah, can you please quote from where it became shariah, I call it barbaric ....1st forcing somebody to marry against their will is non Islamic and then killing a woman with stones is the epitome of it.

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syed May 28, 2014 01:02am

where is mian shabaz sharif

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InqelabzindabadMay 28, 2014 01:13am

@Muslim Well, then congratulations.

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GauthamMay 28, 2014 01:17am

All new agencies in the world reported as 'Pregnant woman stoned to death...' except Dawn. In this age and world, it's amazing how Dawn chose not to report on the pregnancy aspect. I respect Dawn for standing up to societal pressures, please don't censor the news.

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MateenMay 28, 2014 01:24am

@Lyra

Some centuries ago 6 million women were killed in the witchhunt of Europe. They got past that and women have it good in Europe today. The day will come when Pakistan puts these things behind as well, one day for sure.

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pathanooMay 28, 2014 01:29am

@Lyra Well said. No one can say it any better.

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pathanooMay 28, 2014 01:39am

@Muslim What right do you have to make life decisions for an adult?

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FaisMay 28, 2014 01:40am

True..

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jendreyMay 28, 2014 01:49am

Wow - just wow.

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Syed AhmedMay 28, 2014 01:55am

@Aysha God loves us more than a mother loves her child, your comment is very ignorant.

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dawnMay 28, 2014 01:55am

I recommend same treatment to the attackers. Instantly.

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KamranMay 28, 2014 01:58am

@Muslim I cant believe you just said that and that people recommended your post. This is not Islamic at all ... I think you shold go bakc to the basics. Recall the story of the Prophet (PBUH) and the unkind women. Thats not what the "religion of peace" the Prophet (PBUH) intended it to be.. wake up people

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Syed AhmedMay 28, 2014 02:02am

@OmarFL this not law of Islam. This is an act of ignorance & false family pride.

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Salman( Canada )May 28, 2014 02:05am

Wasn't there anyone around to save her when she was being attacked by these savages?

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bobMay 28, 2014 02:09am

barbaric is how you can describe pakistan

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AzadSoochMay 28, 2014 02:12am

This country needs a dictator..laton kai bhoot baton sai nahi mantay.

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immortal_soloistMay 28, 2014 02:17am

This pathetic and inhuman behaviour will get us nowhere except for absolute destruction.

Very tragic!

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BB BabyMay 28, 2014 02:18am

D family are wicked, as God creat ADam and eve from d begin of dis world where did he forbid a woman not 2 marry a person of her chioce , infact her soul wil be regret how she even born into dat family.

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PeaceMay 28, 2014 02:18am

@Calcutta Man - In common law, followed in most countries, even a bystander is party to the crime and can be charge sheeted.

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humanbeungMay 28, 2014 02:21am

@Asraf yes.. In 1430.. Almost 600 years ago.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:40am

@Aysha ... No... nobody will come in the streets to protest even the women of Pakistan, it is just a blood of aurat (woman) Who cares!!! Any statement from any so-called, any mullah?

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sarfrazMay 28, 2014 02:40am

@Muslim I believe you are speaking from religious point of view only and this is not your personal opinion.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:44am

@Raghu ... Land of Pure? hahahaha You damn right!!!

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:45am

@Samina ... Police? Pakistani Police? It's a joke man

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:47am

@muhammad ... Well Said!!!

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:49am

@Siyalkotia ... No No... Pakistan se Zindabhag!!!

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zafarovMay 28, 2014 02:51am

@Canuck You can stop wondering now.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:51am

@Calcutta Man ... Gheratmand Momin!!!

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:52am

@Lyra ... wow

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 02:55am

@Muslim ...Exactly!!!

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MarcyMay 28, 2014 03:00am

@ali It is all over the news in the USA. Old ways and beliefs are needing mass change all over the world. I feel very sad for Pakistan. I have many dear and kind friends from Pakistan, even a friend who was a former boyfriend. I would love to visit Pakistan and personally I feel safe if I visit. But my Pakistani boyfriend said if we visit his family, we would be stoned. I am sure he is kidding, but also not in many ways. I feel esp sad that the world sees the bad about your country far too often. So the hate and world division continues. Really we can all change this together. Amen

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ArshadMay 28, 2014 03:02am

When there is a law that says family member of a murder victim can forgive the murderer it is only logical that they should themselves be free to carry out the murder with impunity.

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MarcyMay 28, 2014 03:02am

@Asraf Joans body burned but her face remained in peace and grace and feeling no pain and her heart would not burn

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:08am

@Irum ... Iran and Saudi Arabia are under Sharia law and whats going on after Friday prayers...

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OttoMay 28, 2014 03:10am

@Asraf That was over 670 years ago. Are you suggesting it's okay because it was done in the Christian world so long ago or that Pakistan is that far behind?

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:14am

@Sarah1 ... Hain?

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OttoMay 28, 2014 03:16am

@Muslim - I'll pray for you because you need it the most. So sad that you think killing this woman for her belief is God-given.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:19am

@m5 ...hahahaha ... Cover up? One more Gheratmand Momin

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:23am

@Sandeep ... Na g Na... Only Women!!!

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:29am

@independentthinker ... This is the responsibility of city leaders to provide the security particularly when they themselves are well protected in their bullet proof cars. This happened in front of High Court (the most safe and secure place) and this not the first time.

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Dr. Sehar KhanMay 28, 2014 03:30am

@syed ... In His Bullet Proof BMW

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AbassinMay 28, 2014 04:18am

@Muslim- Please go and read the Islamic/Sharia laws and refrain from defacing Islam.There are no provisions in the sharia laws for stoning to death a legally married woman.

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Ramesh ManghirmalaniMay 28, 2014 04:22am

Shame on father and brothers- Don't women have any rights in Islam?

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Claude BallouneMay 28, 2014 04:41am

@Asraf Yeah?
So?
Are women in France and England still being burned at the stake?
Apparently they have moved beyond these ancient barbaric practices.
Pakistan should also. This goes for Afghanistan too.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 04:50am

@Lyra : Some animals eat their young! But NONE are obss3ssed with sexual control of their females.That's liberation! And -- a lesson in life!

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basharatMay 28, 2014 04:51am

The poor woman was killed in front of Lahore High Court , no one came forward to rescue her; perhaps no could or hear her cries. We have become society of deaf, dumb, and blinds.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 04:58am

@Ijaz: For charges to be brought, the mrudered woman's family must press police to act. But according to Pakistani law, the
"honourable" family forgives the killers and no charges are laid, except against the father POSSIBLY!
The LAW MUST CHANGE!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 04:59am

@Canuck: He was RIGHT!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:05am

@Mirza: Many would like to make it hard for the mullahs, etc. to sit down again!

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SridharMay 28, 2014 05:06am

Anyone who could have done something should hide his head in shame! A total stranger, living 10,000 miles away, and I have not been able to hold back my tears for a young woman whose only fault was that she was in love. Last night I saw on You Tube an Al Jazira Debate sponsored debate featuring Egyptian-American journalist Mona Eltahawy who accuses Arab men of being misogynists in war against women. Is that what we are seeing in Pakistan too? We need educated, clear-headed young Paksitanis take lead, raise their voices, and put an end to such atrocities should the country dram of a bright future.

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KolsatMay 28, 2014 05:08am

@Asraf what something happend 6oo years ago got to do anything with killing of this pregnant woman who was married to the man of her choice. I believe Pakistanis are living in 2014 when all over the world Muslims are killing Muslims and for what nothing just hatred for hatred's sake. Stop this before you annihilate yourself.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:10am

@Dr. Sehar Khan: Don't call them "animals"! It is disrespectful to animals! Only depraved humans can do this. And, how many depraved humans committed this atrocity in front of the Lahore High Court?

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MalikMay 28, 2014 05:12am

@atif He is de facto foreign minister of Pakistan -- in China signing a deal, while his brother is in India. They may come back and order to issue arrest warrant within 24 hours and transfer few police officials and shed crocodile tears blah blah. After few days, we would be busy in something else. The doctor who got killed in Chenab Nagar is perhaps and old story already?

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:23am

@N S : Actually, if the people can't govern Pakistan, they should give it back to India! However, I don't think Indians will want to take it back! Jinnah's faith in Pakistan was shaken immidiately after 1947 when he saw who was taking Pakistan over. It was and now is a pie-in-the-sky dream -- now failed!
Talk to me about even a MINIMALLY democratic Islamic state in the whole world! Heck, even Western nations can't live up to their vaunted rule-of-the-law societies!
Here's a comparison: Ahmedabad riots killed about 700 Muslims and about 300 Hindus = 1000. Pakistanis have killed 1000 of their own young women FOR HONOUR!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:27am

@thinkthenspeak: Murderers always wait for an excuse like war, honour, Sharia, Blasphemy, even peace -- to execute their lust for blood! Pakistanis need to STOP micro-managing others' lives. FIRST STEP on a LOOOONG road to relative peace.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:29am

@SMQ Zaman : You sound more like Pakistani-Briton than the other way around!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:38am

@Riaz Murtaza: Long history of cousin marriage has created genetic and social diseases. The gene pool has become shallow and, like diabetes, it is passed on to new generations! And, they kill in a frenzy of familial "honour" ritual!
The mind is a terrible thing to waste!
BTW: When Sunnis count world's Muslim numbers to brag about "fastest growing religion", do they count Shia, Ismailis, and Ahmadis?

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:40am

@ALI: The answer is: Pakistan -- love it or leave it -- as "patriotic" Americans used to say!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:43am

@ALI: That is probably why the Baloch and the Pakhtun want to leave Pakistan! What is in store for "Azad" Kashmir in Pakistan?

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BakhtawerMay 28, 2014 05:44am

@ali
Coverage! who will cover it. what if the description is considered blasphemous. Blasphemy is dozen a dime in Pakistan.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:47am

@sarah shah: Then killed Benazir, her dad,Z.A. Bhutto, Zia,& two state governors, just like Indians killed M.K. Gandhi, Indira and
Rajiv, too!
Zealotry is bad news!

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BakhtawerMay 28, 2014 05:54am

@waseem
it should be called bricking....that makes it so gentle and humane.

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:55am

@Uxman:But these Pakistanis don't consider the women they murder "innocent"! That is the crux of the story. Believe me,India isn't the worst as considered by the world! Its women are more educated and more independant then their neighbours (northwest and southeast) -- if you must compare!

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 05:56am

@m5; What os "stoning"?

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BakhtawerMay 28, 2014 05:59am

@m5
what else is stoning?

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MushmanMay 28, 2014 06:08am

@Ahmer : Hurry -- patiently while people die daily -- by the score!

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QutubMay 28, 2014 06:08am

@Asraf And what exactly is your point in referencing this current day barbaric act to an event that occurred in medieval times.

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IqbalrangoonwalaMay 28, 2014 06:40am

Great shame to pakistan high court and it's police since you have failed to do any thing give this court system on tender to saudi or Japanese judges

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PuckMay 28, 2014 06:41am

@Hilarious Common occurrence in India? You must be out of your mind. When was someone stoned to death here last?

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YawarMay 28, 2014 06:44am

The only way to end this barbarianism is if the father and other stone throwers get lined up and stoned to death. But unfortunately this wont happen. In fact what will likely happen is that the police will make little effort to catch the murderers that fled the scene and the court will free the poor girl's barbarian father.

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Mohammad Ali khanMay 28, 2014 06:46am

@Khalid

This is a very dark time.Unfortunately people don't see the darkness.

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ROHIT PANDEYMay 28, 2014 06:59am

Not exactly a sign of civilization surely?:(:(:(

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NASAH (USA)May 28, 2014 07:03am

There is so CRUEL.

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ManishMay 28, 2014 07:09am

This is very sad. How can a father kill his own daughter? How raged and blinded one has to be to execute such a punishment? I am pretty sure the family will regret it later.
This has nothing to do with religion. Such a barbaric behavior emanates from the system where women are treated as properties and not as human beings. These despicable acts embarrass us all and need to be stopped.
My God give us all more wisdom!

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kepler - 8BMay 28, 2014 07:13am

A shining example of what Pakistan has become. A monster !

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ladies and gentlemenMay 28, 2014 07:16am

Not until you have a fundamental change of thinking in religious / cultural mindset.

Outside in the civilized world we do see killers go on rampages, but there is justice and punishment for the criminal.

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S. A. M. May 28, 2014 07:30am

@bob True. Nobody, except of the terrorists, is safe here. This happened outside the highcourt so it became known there will probably be many unregistered similar incidents. I think now its terminally ill.
who would dare to stand in front of the terrorists when even lawyers defending a person accused of blasphemy is murdered. what do you expect when the murderer of Salman Taseer is considered a hero.
We should be very clear of what to expect from the govt of pakistan and its institutions.

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imran yusufzaiMay 28, 2014 08:11am

totally shocking and barbaric act

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FarazMay 28, 2014 08:17am

Fellows, this act has nothing to do with Islam.Her family did this for their own reasons.Don't use this incident as a tool to defame the religion of peace.

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AnwerMay 28, 2014 08:24am

@Irfan Husain Do you mean if it had not happened outside the court, it would have been acceptable! I have never understood the logic of ' What would the world think of us.'

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Anwar SadatMay 28, 2014 08:26am

It is only us, the educated lot who are condemning this action. Are the illiterate and religious heads doing the same. That is where the crux of the problem lies. When no one from the Ulema condemns these actions they will not stop; the illiterate follow the customs of 1000 years back and not of today. Why are they quiet?

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Sohail AslamMay 28, 2014 08:38am

Can someone educate me regarding the law for honour killings?

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KashafMay 28, 2014 08:54am

This report neither mention that this killing was done to fulfill a sharia requirement, nor the accused is quoting so, why are the people here involving Islam ? Honour killing has nothing to do with Islam or Sharia. It's an another obvious example of failure of Justice in Pakistan. All authorities from top to bottom are responsible for not delivering the basic rights of the citizens.

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Sundus SidrahMay 28, 2014 08:55am

@Amir Mahmood Seriously. It brought tears to my eyes too when news like such get heard and then knowing how difficult at would be for Farzana to comprehend herself, to defend her stance on marrying a person she loved and then standing against only those members who raise her. That was definitely the strong and courageous deed on her part. As for us, it is high time to realize that the choice lies with every single individual to marry who so ever they want. I am feeling guilty, humiliated and culpable because we as a nation have failed to change.

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JamalMay 28, 2014 09:03am

@imtiaz Very well said.

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Asim AkramMay 28, 2014 09:05am

If this kind of 'justice' is done in front of the High Court, what to talk of other areas?

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AJamalMay 28, 2014 09:07am

Rule the country by keeping the masses illiterate. Keep doing Sharif and family.

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NajmaMay 28, 2014 09:08am

All bystanders who watched this brutal killing are as charged. Time to open up the country for missionary work. Pakistan needs to improve.

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Suresh B. GokhaleMay 28, 2014 09:12am

The incident is highly shocking & disturbing. The Law should take its own action.

Let every one realize, where woman is respected, the society progress. Where this doesn't happen, be sure dark days are ahead. I wish all intellectuals, reformers people in Pakistan unite and take lead in building strong & progressive Pakistan.

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Mailk Ajmal KhanMay 28, 2014 09:13am

Where was the police and why the did not discharge their ammunition to disperse the crowd and save the women. Arrest all police person present in the court premise. All Court staff should be arrested too. The most animalistic display of human behavior. Please do not cite any religion at this sad moment. Do not tell me how good the religion is how good was the history of the teachings of your faith. This is no occasion to discuss Islam or your faith. You have failed as human being. Yes you all.

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ThoughtpurificationMay 28, 2014 09:29am

They were subservient and accepted themselves to be recreational agent and domestic.

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DisgustedMay 28, 2014 09:32am

@Asraf and this is relevant how?

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A PakistaniMay 28, 2014 09:38am

This act is anti Islam. All must condemn it. Where was the police and other security/intelligence agencies who keep on punishing politicians and other people who don't bow down to follow their unwritten and unconstitutional commands under the disguise of Patriotism.

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kashifMay 28, 2014 09:42am

OMG..this is beyond savageness...may that lady's soul rest in peace.
This is jahalat.

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RaoMay 28, 2014 10:13am

"woman was stoned to death by her family" ....that too in a court....Are there no policemen in the premises? May be simply they were bystanders watching the show....Indication that Pakistan is slowly degenerating to anarchy..

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AwamMay 28, 2014 10:20am

Imagine we have 50% illetrate population and on top of that the so called literate are not really literate in the true sense. All we need is a "right" education to differentiate between right and wrong or else we will keep on committing the same crimes again and again and again.
A fear also needs to be infused on the society by way of exemplary punishment to people involved in this crime so that no body dare think of commiting this heinous crime again.

Where is Imran Khan and the welfare recipient Tahirul Qadri? They should protest against such crimes against humanity and not the fake issues they dance around.

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samad ChaudhryMay 28, 2014 11:10am

What an unfortunate episode in the young life by cruel traditions and the family feels proud in committing this barbaric act.
Is the country moving to pre-Islamic days when girls at birth were buried alive.
Bring compulsory education to every child in Pakistan and give adult education a chance and Destroy those Taleban who on the name of Islam destroy the schools particularly girls schools.
I remember at the time of independence the government had promised to bring compulsory education that would have end these horrible crimes.

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samad ChaudhryMay 28, 2014 11:12am

@imtiaz What religious culture are you talking about
for heaven sake grow up and respect women

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Zafar RaoMay 28, 2014 11:12am

Can we still claim "Pakistan ka matlab kia,,,,,La ilaha illillah" with such un-human and un-islamic acts? "Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings" is a huge number of women to be "sacrificed" for the honour of the society, the "disgraceful" society which infact houses among its ranks the "thugs, liars, impostors, ......and animals" and does not react against them. I am ashamed of being part of such society.
1. Does Islam not give right to exercise willingness for marriage?
2. Is only the girl a violator in this case? Why the boy should go scot-free? Means boys have a license to do any thing wrong and yet it will be graceful.

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samad ChaudhryMay 28, 2014 11:13am

@Raj Patel Police as usual do not care less

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samad ChaudhryMay 28, 2014 11:15am

@daniel shiger Destroy these Talebans before they destroy Pakistan on the name of Islam

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samad ChaudhryMay 28, 2014 11:17am

@Amir Mahmood Culprits should be punished severely and equally police should be accounted for

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Pakistani femaleMay 28, 2014 11:30am

And they ask me why am I ashamed to be a Pakistani!

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raw is warMay 28, 2014 11:45am

@Khalid

I dont think so. More or less they are at the same level.

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M RafiqueMay 28, 2014 11:57am

Is Lahore High Court is located in a desert ? Shame on thousands of people, lawyers, securities personals, general public (called deendars and secular) around the high court

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Joseph PMay 28, 2014 12:01pm

@george Pity!

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TasmiaMay 28, 2014 12:08pm

I am a Muslim and that's embarrassing that I am living in a society that breach Islamic rules so blatantly.

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Joseph PMay 28, 2014 12:17pm

Lack of proper education is the most probable root cause of this old-age honor killing practice. Unfortunately via the Khaps in India, we may have this practice with not much of press coverage in most cases. Both the security establishment and govt authorities are too afraid of the Khaps. I fail to understand why both the govts cannot stop this once and for all via legislation and rule of law. It's really. All of us in India are upset and sad with what Farzana went thru. R.I.P.

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ValiyaMay 28, 2014 12:25pm

@Ahmed Not only him many people in Pakistan has to learn Islamic values and teaching properly because some some fanatic clerics already misguided them by wrong intrepetation

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IrfanMay 28, 2014 12:30pm

America and other Western countries spend millions of dollars in Pakistan, for our education, health and in welfare projects, but this money seem to go waste.

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syed hassan haseebMay 28, 2014 12:36pm

the poor girl , shame on the family it is ok.
what about the police and the people watching stoning no body tried to stop that is more alarming.
we get only lies and nothing . the quality of society depends on quality of citizens , we have no moral

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HenryMay 28, 2014 01:19pm

all these type of barbaric incidents have gone on the yahoo news... and now the whole world is reading and getting to know how the muslims are and this is what their culture teaches in promotes. shame on u'll.... pakistani's are more interested in whats happeneing around the world first i suggest look at ur own country and how ur country is going to the dogs. is this what u'll want the world to learn about islam. non muslims have a very bad image of islam and the muslims... even though they may not tell it to ur face but this is a fact.... they dont have no regards for the islamic faith or any muslim. u'll are to be blamed... set a good example if u want to show that islam does not practise violence int he name of religion....

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AkramMay 28, 2014 01:19pm

Innah Lilayhi wa inah ilayhi rajiyoun. I hope this poor woman finds peace, in the after life. As for her family, they should all be hanged, starting with her father and brothers.

The only way to stop this barbarity is to meet it full on, and instill fear in the hearts of those contemplating future such actions. Too many of these people think they will get away with it.

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gip shawMay 28, 2014 01:21pm

@Rao
Pakistan is one of the most corrupt countries, one can get away with anything even murder by bribing the authorities. Police is on top of the list of corrupt bodies. How can one control this corruption when it is wide spread from top to bottom. Do not blame Islam, it is the corrupt mullahs too to blame. I personally experienced this practice of corruption in a top hospital where the top officials would take action only when monies are handed to their cronies on the quiet. At the airport a police officer demanded a large amount to allow me to proceed to the check in even though I had nothing to declare. As long as this corruption exists Pakistan will stay at the bottom of the civilised countries or worst still.

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somoto actionMay 28, 2014 01:40pm

This is death of the system. Infront of Highcourt this happened they say. I bet that people who did this already informed police about there intentions and silenced them.
If such a state please disband all the police systems at once. I think these folks are the ones who are creating more chaos

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Asif Naeem BhattiMay 28, 2014 01:46pm

Dispicalble act by dispicable animals - May her soul RIP !

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somoto actionMay 28, 2014 01:52pm

I remember two brother beaten to death in sialkot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KillingofMuneebandMughees )was also in front of police. Sarfaraz Shah was killed in KArachi was also done infront of police and by Rangers.
So what is their purpose, to protect and serve the comman man or loot and murder along with only to protect the likes of Bilawal, HAmzas and Sharmila Farooqi.

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AhmedMay 28, 2014 02:04pm

@Muslim , you are real Muslim, not human being

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RashMay 28, 2014 02:09pm

@Hilarious

The only difference is in India murderers can not be pardoned by family members.

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guddiMay 28, 2014 02:16pm

Sorry to say, but Muslims, in general, are very violent people. No wonder they do not have much to show in arts, literature and finer qualities of human nature. Tolerance is absent in most of their minds. They are not taught to respect other beliefs. Islamic channels, which numbers more than a dozen, of every sect and varieties, are of no use.

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Pedro SamMay 28, 2014 05:27pm

@Zalmay What can the government do....people should change....unless people change nothing will happen

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noobguyMay 28, 2014 05:45pm

I feel extremely sorry for those at the recieving end of such customs, beliefs, and laws. You make ur children hate u by failing to be a good parent and you must accept ur failure. Children rebel when they are neglected by their parents. Unfortunately in Pakistan it is considered highly recommended to beat your child like he is an animal in most of the poor people's class. But it fires back; the child starts to find protection outside his house. It is the father who must be guilty if her daughter agreed to speak against him in the court. And what the father did is a clear explanation of the type he had been.

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Pedro SamMay 28, 2014 05:51pm

@Muslim shame on you shame on you

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Pedro SamMay 28, 2014 05:56pm

@Bipul Barbaric cruel

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VasanthMay 28, 2014 06:06pm

Shedding tears same as how i read similar news in India. I am Hindu brought up by Islam education institutions. And i'm sure Islam never asks to kill any one and i don't know honor is more important their kid? Sick parents. Please bring them to justice and give meaning for the death of brave girl.

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Salman( Canada )May 28, 2014 06:18pm

It all boils down to male entitlement, the ownership of women. We the men decide how the women should live their lives and who they marry. Unless Pakistanis rid themselves of this medieval, backward thinking, we'll keep seeing a repeat of these murders.
Not a word from the Mullahs of course.

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Dr. Faisal MalikMay 28, 2014 06:26pm

no outrage from the Maulanas ? Are we now legalising murder? what sick people do this? there is no justice left we are going backwards while the rest of the word moves forward.

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tk223May 28, 2014 06:31pm

@Henry
It's not Islam, it's culture. If you're so enlightened, you'll see the distinction. No one is condoning the murder of this this poor women, in front of the Lahore High Court- which is shameful- where were the police? There is a lot of corruption in Pakistan, and illiteracy. It starts with ineffective governments, everyone is too laid back to care and promote democracy and human rights in Pakistan. I think Pakistan should drop the "islamic republic" part of its name, because, I'm wondering, where is the Islam in Pakistan?

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EbrahimMay 28, 2014 06:34pm

Why is the Chief Justice quiet on this issue, no suo moto action, maybe she is a poor lady who lost her life?

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AsimMay 28, 2014 07:16pm

Just goes to show that people put culture before religion

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independentthinkerMay 28, 2014 07:19pm

@Dr. Sehar Khan
If your own family chooses to kill you, there is not much society can do, let alone the government! They could have very well killed her at home rather then in front of the court. Location really is irrelevant - what really matters is by whom was she killed - and who could have thought her own family would do that?

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khanMay 28, 2014 07:30pm

Pakistan should make a law that priests or mulla must not encourage honour killings with the penalty of imprisonment and with the parents getting penalty to deter other people from doing the same act.

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MalikMay 28, 2014 08:03pm

The mentality needs to be changed. I visited my hometown couple of years back, similar culture. I heard a story of a person who killed his daughter when she's on her way to the court for marriage. He might have been crushed from within after that incident, but society at large was giving him titles like 'he's the man!', 'he did a great job', 'he's saved his honour' and the like. All this making it easier for others to follow the suit.

Please educate such people. There's no other way out. Law becomes useless when society makes one such person a hero.

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jawaid chaudhriMay 28, 2014 08:34pm

@fahim sahi
this is not a religious issue, It is a crime that was committed,why do people think that Islam is responsible ? The police and the court system failed to protect its citizens, Besides arresting the culprits,the police and Judges are equally responsible.The media should make this case as an example and and educate the illiterate people.

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AyshaMay 28, 2014 08:47pm

I am originally from Pakistan living in west. My 18 years old daughter (raised in west) read this news and called me. She was extremely upset and crying. She said she literally hates paksitan and will never go there. She said she feels ashamed even saying that her parents are from Pakistan. I dont know what to say to her :(

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FeministMay 28, 2014 09:03pm

@Junaid by the blessing of sharia based law drafted by mullah mindsets such murders and rapes and child molestation are virtually immune to punishment. After all slaves, lower animals, children and women are considered property. At worst Diyat & Qisas allows freedom from punishment to be bought by wealth or force.

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DesiMay 28, 2014 09:55pm

Indian hand anyone ? conspiracy theories ? enlightenment please .....

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AshiqMay 28, 2014 10:09pm

"Love recognizes no barriers.
It jumps hurdles, leaps fences, penetrates walls to arrive at its destination full of hope."

Maya Angelou (1928-2014)

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AshiqMay 28, 2014 10:17pm

I think Indian commentators in this forum can stop posting disparaging remarks. We understand the serious issues and we are struggling to fix them. For instance, a lot of thought leaders in Pakistan condemn Hafiz Saeed and LeT as international terrorist. Changes are being made!!
We would appreciate good neighborly support and would advice Indians to focus on honor killings that happen, for instance the hanging of two young lovers last year in a Haryana village 50km from Gurgaon.

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daulat May 28, 2014 10:48pm

Is Islam and other religions allow the people to stone to death the woman I think no one can allow them to stone the women. this act is illegal

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crayozMay 28, 2014 11:05pm

@Asraf, What is your point mate ?

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SeedoMay 29, 2014 12:06am

@Pankaj

No, it is not. In stone age, people were probably more compassionate.

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SeedoMay 29, 2014 12:15am

A good portion of those Pakistanis who are expressing shock at this, would have done something similar had one of the women from their family ran away with a man they did not approve of. This mentality is very prevalent among the Muslims, even the educated ones. The elders (especially the men) simply cannot accept the fact that a girl has a right to her sexuality and should be able to choose the man she wants to be with. No one can deny the family's role, but the final decision must rest with the girl (or the boy).

Parents simply do not have the right to kill their children, even if they commit adultery or fornication. Until common people understand this and learn to appreciate human life, this sort of unfortunate incidents will keep taking place. Our education system and law enforcement have a huge role to play in changing this mindset of the masses.

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Justice4allMay 29, 2014 12:31am

This is a slap on face of Lahoris and Punjab police. How dare anyone kill a person in broad day light, specially when the the person was seeking justice from LHC. Even a criminal should not be killed by public, let alone a justice seeker... RIP - Farzana

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RajuMay 29, 2014 03:26am

This had nothing to do with religion, its almost common family problems in some communities. In the Islam one is free to choose with whom to get married! This damages our reputation in the world because of stupid Pindu"s.
This kind of stupid behaviour is a disgrace to the country and to our culture and religion. One should be free to choose with whom to get married! This damages our reputation in the world because of stupid Pindu"s.

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AyshaMay 29, 2014 03:51am

Change in law might not do much to prevent honor killing of women. Pakistan is full of crazy people like this woman's father who handed himself in after killing his daughter. People like him dont care about punishment or consequences of their actions. They will kill their daughters for so called honor regardless of whats going to happen to them.
To prevent honor killing, Its the mindset which needs to be changed. We need a very strong feminist movement in Pakistan. And should not allow mullahs to interfere in anything. Other then that, I have no clue how its going to be changed in Pakistan.

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illawarriorMay 29, 2014 06:56am

Forgiveness by the family should not be enough to negate criminal prosecution.

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illawarriorMay 29, 2014 07:03am

@AZMAISH Your suggestion is not practical - generally court cases involve witnesses of both genders, and/or the complainant and defendant might well be of different genders. Further, unless Pakistan has an abundance of female lawyers, judges, security guard, maintenance staff etc, there would probably soon be a huge backlog of cases needing to be heard, if such restrictions were imposed. Normal security should have been enough to prevent this.

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illawarriorMay 29, 2014 07:03am

@Aysha Probably in KSA

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illawarriorMay 29, 2014 07:04am

@Aysha Agree with her

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Open MindMay 29, 2014 09:16am

How cruel these people were who never thought for a moment that they are punishing their own blood in the name of pseudo-honor. This is the result of ignorance and illiteracy prevalent in our society.

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wsyedMay 29, 2014 09:19am

Barbaric acts of cruelty and ignorance have reduced our Country to place of shame. Yet the leaders of the Country keep plundering and travel all over with no urgency to bring law and common decency to society.

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wsyedMay 29, 2014 09:24am

@iqbalrangoonwala

Shame on entire society. Barbaric acts of cruelty and ignorance have reduced our Country to place of shame. Yet the leaders of the Country keep plundering and travel all over with no urgency to bring law and common decency to society.

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RamMay 29, 2014 09:31am

We always see thousands of Pakistani men protesting on youtube movie or cartoon on paper and see burning Indian and USA flags in protest.

How come we can't find few to protest in street and show some solidarity to a poor pregnant women, unborn child is also killed in this madness how are they going to explain this to Allah on the day of judgement.

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asimMay 29, 2014 09:50am

@Asraf , but this is May 2014.

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prafulla shrivastvaMay 29, 2014 10:13am

@george Everybody was waiting for stone age which was so much appreciated in Afghanistan few years back. People are so happy in stone age at Afghanistan, they are trying to destroy all the schools & development activities. I trust very soon Afghanistan & Pakistan will become live museum for rest of the world.
Bravo Pakistan keep it up.

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prafulla shrivastvaMay 29, 2014 10:14am

@Khalid Actually people do not want to follow religion otherwise such incidents will never happen.

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prafulla shrivastvaMay 29, 2014 10:16am

@Aysha Please raise your voice against such cruel act , try to collect more people & make them aware on such barbarian act.

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TamzaMay 29, 2014 11:18am

@Asraf so?

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TamzaMay 29, 2014 11:19am

@N S BUT China is SO corrupt. How can you expect any lasting equity.

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Rami IbrahimMay 29, 2014 11:44am

@Khalid That's nice but Pakistanis are not and never were Arabs. So what is your point?

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ImranMay 29, 2014 01:11pm

@Aysha. I do see your frustration and i see why you are questioning when you say where was God, when all this was happening. All i can say in answer to this , God created all of us and gave us hands, wisdom and gave us freedom and power to stop these brutalities. All has made this universe and created you, me and all of us on this and this is our responsibility to stop this. God never asked those people to kill that innocent woman or so many other who go through torture everyday. It would be wrong to point out to GOD where was he, the question we should ask ourselves, where were we, where are we now. It will happen tomorrow again to someone else, will we be there to stop these? If we adapt our ways and thinking sooner or later this barbarism will end. But we are too quick to pass the buck onto to someone else that's including me. Hazrat Umar (RAW) said if a goat dies in my land with thirst or hunger i will be answerable to that. This is the sort of responsibility we need to show to our fellow humanbeings, Allah has made us Free and shown us the way, its our responsibility to stop this barbarism and do our duty. I dont mean to object you or anyone, so forgive me if i said anything wrong.

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gagan sarkarMay 29, 2014 01:17pm

@Aysha

You are not alone in this predicament. The Muslim girls, brought up in the west, would love to enjoy life like other girls do. But NO. Men will control them so much that they will have no choice but to run away from their families. But then, they will be killed. Wish you and your children a very prosperous and peaceful life in the west.

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rhazesMay 29, 2014 02:24pm

Pretty much sums up what we have on offer to women in this society

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MANOJMay 29, 2014 03:11pm

@Ahmed

WELL SAID

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NarenMay 29, 2014 03:26pm

@Muslim Are you kidding? Who are you to punish her for her deeds?

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FarzanaMay 29, 2014 05:48pm

@Arif do not insult animals.They are better than so called humans.

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Tariq SaleemMay 29, 2014 07:16pm

An other example of denying the rights of freemod of choice. She is punished for making her own decision. I hope we have seen the last of it. We dont want this barbarism against women anymore.

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independentthinkerMay 30, 2014 03:08am

@Salman( Canada )
If a father sees his daughter heading towards self-destruction, I believe it is natural for him to act! Definitely not to the extent that he did, however, he will do whatever in his power to stop his daughter from making, what he was convinced, was a mistake. A 45 year old man marrying a 25 year old girl, after killing his first wife! Just doesn't seem right, does it? I believe this person Iqbal needs to be held accountable, just as the family of this lady.

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Usman KhanMay 30, 2014 05:58am

Wait a couple of days, people will forget and nothing will change...but if they cared strong actions would be taken. Death sentences for those responsible, firing of the police on the scene who were either complicate or clearly incompetent...sadly, none of this will happen...which is there is chaos as people take justice in their own hands...what's the purpose of the police if they don't protect the innocent and prosecute the guilty?

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danialMay 30, 2014 07:58am

Honour in this case has got nothing to do with religion. Its a disease created in society within, in the uk we have serial murderers, daily stabbings, drug problems, in India currently there has been news of gang rape and murder. This does not prove anything towards defaming Christianity or Hinduism, but reflects more towards the health of society itself. Its the same case in Pakistan.
In Pakistan, people have an attitude problem, their culture is more dominating then the religion.

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witnessMay 30, 2014 09:12am

It happens all over south asia. The most hilarious thing is that we still watch the things through the lens of philosophical or religious text. Tomorrow if someone in the commentators face the same situation, how they will react? Why all are silent about WOMEN? The only solution to improve a society is to strengthen the women. Please give them reservation in the government,public sector jobs, make more educational institutions in rural area.

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Paki PaindooMay 30, 2014 09:43am

@george
They never came out of stone age.

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CavemanMay 30, 2014 11:01am

This country is going back to the Stone Age! This is progress, soon all the citizens will be wearing loin cloths and have clubs in their hands. Damn savages!

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raviMay 30, 2014 11:29am

@Aysha This is not case of blasphemy against Islam, so chances are nobody shall raise voice on street about this incidence. But it is appreciable that some peresons are raising voice by writing in this paper, it shows some humanity and concern for women human rights still there in the society.

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NazMay 30, 2014 01:06pm

Let me claim that i am a WOMAN but alas i am not alive anymore Murdered by the patriarchy

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Khan May 30, 2014 02:59pm

I have read the above comments and its sucg a relief as everyone seems so enlightened and aware, we can change it, stand up for woman in your family, in your towns, if everyone does that, there will be no such incidence

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HassanMay 30, 2014 03:32pm

@imtiaz sadly, this is true.

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ChohanMay 30, 2014 04:13pm

They used to bury their new born daughters, but since growth of Islam it stopped in Arab countries. While Pakistani Muslims have been so inspired by Arabic culture they have opted to pick every habit long given by today's most successful. This isn't Arabic or Hindu culture, where does this honuor killing come from?

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KhalidMay 30, 2014 06:51pm

@Aysha
I think the only answer is the honest answer. Which is, that we are worthy of hatred and you daughter is absolutely right in hating Pakistan. It is not a country worth living in. I was born and brought up in Pakistan and although I love Pakistan, I hate the people who live in it. They don't even have the guts to stand up and not rest until they get the government to change the law. They are all sleeping...the lot of them...

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KhalidMay 30, 2014 06:52pm

@daulat
Please do not exaggerate. There is no other religion that allow it. Let us admit it.

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JamalMay 30, 2014 07:34pm

@Shimatoree you're right. In civilized countries murder is a crime against the state and no one has the authority to pardon it.

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Rashid SultanMay 30, 2014 07:41pm

@Khalid We have already adopted the practices and chicanery that was 1400 years ago. People have moved on and we are stranded in a time and place warp. What more of a regression do you want?

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JamalMay 30, 2014 07:48pm

@Musia contrary to your belief there are men of compassion struggling along side women for their emancipation!

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JamalMay 30, 2014 07:57pm

@sarah shah rubbish. The daily toll of such atrocities is the norm.

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Manoj KumarMay 31, 2014 12:40am

Dawn didnt publish my words . I will repeat - INDIA and Pakistan society both are getting sick and whole world is making fun of this subcontinent . Rapes in India and this event in pakistan. We are living in stone age. Wake up !!!! Hope next generations is more aware !

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VishMay 31, 2014 01:03am

All within 24 hours. Two women found hanging in north India when some policemen refused to file an FIR against their rapists. A pregnant woman stoned to death outside a court in Lahore. Ah, it must be the common culture and civilization that we share!

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Salim AMay 31, 2014 07:30pm

This act alone have probably repulsed millions in the world from Pakistan and Muslims. I woulder how many people decided to become Muslims after hearing about this and so many like ones happening daily in the Muslim world.

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independentthinkerJun 01, 2014 01:35am

@imtiaz -- you forgot to add "MISINTERPRETED" - It is the misinterpretation of our religious teachings, that lead these fanatics to act the way they do!

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Naz Alizay Jun 01, 2014 03:01am

For those who watched this woman and her unborn child being murdered in the broad day light in front of the Lahore High Court and in the presence of police & crowed of some 130 individuals ---- LOW YOUR HEADS IN SHAME for being nothing but onlookers, for seeing it happen and not raising your voice to condemn such a barbaric act !! Fathers, brothers and family's honour lies in protecting a woman, & for the police you brought nothing but SHAMEA police officers role is to protect its citizens not watch them being murdered!!!

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Naz Alizay Jun 01, 2014 03:04am

@Amir Mahmood yes, I hope they suffer for a long to come :-(

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Naz Alizay Jun 01, 2014 03:09am

@imtiaz owned??? Parents are guardian for their kids daughters & sons including! Girls are not commodities that you can Own. If you can not feel safe with your father, brother or mother then where?

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ashrafJun 01, 2014 12:18pm

@george Well, It never left Pakistan. However, its the matter of observing the age old customs. Elopement, in Pakistan, is an aberration and not norm. The eloping couple also know this right from the childhood. The boys, usually, are the instigators but the girls are the one to pay the price.