PARADISE FOR ALL MANKIND..All humans are brothers and sisters.This was the Motto of Prophet Muhammad sallallahu Alahi Wasallam. He even cried at the death of a Jew. We are his ummati Our concern should be same. To start from ourself reform, family,locality,country to whole mankind till the day of Judgment. Dawah is very effective tool for our correction also.Our success for life here and Hereafter THE LIFE AFTER DEATH is in obeying commands of Allah and following Path of Hazrat Muhammad(PBUH)

There are many Muslims who have little knowledge of Islamic Aqeedah. Surprisingly there are many Muslims who attack other Muslims on the name of Aqeedah on internet/You tube they also don’t know the Islamic Aqeedah.

1)Volumes has been written on for and against of Fazail E Amaal. I have 7 books and one 20 page article in favour of Fazaaile amal and 3 books against Fazail E Amaal. All these for and against centre around Few core issues.

Allegation by some ...............group are basically broader and are based on the difference of opinion on certain issues among the scholars of Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat. These issues are very broad among Scholars and involve almost all the great scholars including Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal,Imam Shafaee, Imam Nawwi, Imam Suyuti,, Ibne Kathir, Ibne Taimmiya, Ibne Qayyim, Shah Waliullah,Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan Rahimullah Alaihi Ajmaeen etc.

hose who are Presenting it as an issue of Fazail e Amaal /Tablighi Jamaat/ Maulana zakaria / Deoband / Hanafi/shafee/maliki/Hanbali...........they have either very little Knowledge / if knowledge then doing for Groupism / Secterianism.

3.Those who are making it isolated case of fazail e Amaal they are cheating themselves and other Muslims.They are concealing truth and telling lie knowingly or unknowingly.

So it was necessary to discuss the Islamic Point of view in the light of Quran and Hadith of the issue of Stories of Aulia Allah and its interpretation and Position of Scholars, Imam, and Salafus Salehin including Ibne Taimmiya Rahimulla.

2)General Muslim are wasting their energy and resources on these discussion and publication .

3)They are abusing each other making fun of teaching of quran and Hadith.

4)Tablighi Jamaat has been blessed specially by grace of Allah and Ummat can get benefit from their effort. They are generally devouted ,Allah Fearing and having love for Sunnat and also practice it considerably.But this allegation and counterallegation has its own impact.

5)Tablighi Jamaat has nothing to loss. It is not an party or organization or membership /financial or administrative position .

6)Only and only ummat/muslims are losing.7Our duty to convey massage to all human being is losing.

THIS IS NOT A REPLY TO ANY ...............GROUP

RATHER A RESEARCH ARTICLE AND INVESTIGATION

IN THE LIGHT OF QURAN AND HADITH

AND SALAFUS SALEHIN ULEMA AND IMAM POSITION

on

THE ISSUE OF fazail-E-Amaal and stories of Aulia Allah and alledged issue by some.................group

May Allah save us all from shirk and Bidat

Those who have not even read Fazail e Amal but still without any knowledge are criticizing it is to be informed that

1.Stories are hardly 2% of whole Fazail e Amaal which is a book in 1500 pages in two Volumes. 2.And controversial stories are hardly 4-10 in number. For criticising Fazaile Amaall the same 4-5 stories are repeated by different speakers on you tube /facebook/group affliated websites.

2.As far Tablighi jamaat is concerned it is not restricted to Fazaile e Amall .Elders have permitted to use Muntakhab Ahadit,Riyazus salehin,Hayatus Sahaba etc for collective Taleem of Virtuesand encouragement.

3. For individual Taleem elders encourage to read Quran Tafseer Hadith and books of pious Ulemas under the guidance of Ulemas.

"In the Days of Ayyam e Harra the Great Tabaee Saeed Ibnil Musaib Rahimullah used to hear Azan from the grave of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ. And no one else was there in Masjid e Nabwi at that time."

(Ayyam e Harra are called those days when Yazeed attacked Madeena Munawwara and for few days there could not be Salat (Namaz) in Masjid e Nabwiﷺ. Saeed Ibne Musaib Rahimullah was trapped in Masjid those days)

Miracles of Shaykhul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (RA):taken fromالاعلامالعلیھفیمناقبابنتيميةwritten by Shaykh Abu Hafs Umar Ibn Ali-Bazzar (RA) who was a contemporary of Shaykhul-Islam (RA), translated in English as "The Lofty virtues of Ibn Taymiyah (RA)"

Incident 1 (Knowing of what is in someone’s heart without him speaking): There was once an argument between some of the noble scholars and myself in some issues that we were debating at length over. So, we decided to stop our discussion and go to the Shaykh to give us the decisive word. We found that the Shaykh himself had come to us, and when we were going to ask him about what we were discussing, he delved into each issue before we could even speak. He laid out each of our positions regarding what we were discussing, mentioned the opinions of the scholars on them, and then clarified which opinions were most supported by the evidence,until he got to the final issue we wanted to ask him about and told us what we ourselves were hoping to learn from asking him. So, my companions and I were speechless and shocked at what he had just learned from him, as well as what Allah had made him privy to regarding what we had been thinking of.

It is quiet evident that on internet their are certain ........................................ Groups/Websites are claiming/interpreting the stories of Aulia Allah in a bad light their allegation ranges from denying/accusation of fabrication/different kind of allegation of corrupt Aqeedah on the basis of their interpretation. That is being misprojected on internet with different heading and subheadings like....................Fazail e Amaal inviting to disbelief, Fazail e Amaal Inviting to Shirk, Fazail e Amaal Inviting to Kufr Teaching of Shirk in the book Fazail e Amaal of Tableeghi Jamaat ........... Fazail e Amaal ki Haqeeqat.............. What is wrong in Fazail e Amaal ............ Tablighi jamaat ki haqeeqat etcWE will discuss here the Islamic Point of view in the light of Quran and Hadith of the issue of Stories of Aulia Allah and its interpretation and Position of Scholars, Imam, and Salafus Salehin including Ibne Taimmiya Rahimulla.

This is very critical issue to be solved by Muslims Ummah as accuser ..................group is on one side and the Imams Slafus Salehin Ulema understanding is different from them.

So if ...............Group accusation against Fazail e Amaal is considered true, then almost all the Imams e.g Imam Ahmad Ibne Hnbal, Imam Ibne Taimiyya, Imam Ibne Qayyim and Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan (Aalim who spreaded Ahle Hadith/Indian Salafi Maslak in India) will also become involved in shirk. (NAUZUBILLAH).Because on Issues of Karamat e Aulia and Prophet status etc Salafus Salehin Scholars view is same as the believe of Mainstream Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat position the same has been reflected in Fazaile Aamaal

As far as Tablighi jamaat is concerned it has also recomended to use other books like Riyazus Salehin and Muntakhab Ahadith for collective Taleem and if you are not satisfied with Fazail e Aamaal you can do dawah work with Tablighi Jamaat without using Fazail e Amaal.For detail of books in Tablighi Jamaat click here.

These issues are very broad among Scholars and involve almost all the great scholars including Imam Ahmad Ibne Hanbal,Imam Shafaee,
Imam Nawwi, Imam Suyuti,, Ibne Kathir, Ibne Taimmiya, Ibne Qayyim, Shah
Waliullah,Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan Rahimullah Alaihi Ajmaeen etc.This issue is not even at the level of Deobandi/Ahle Hadith/Ghair Muqallid (Indian Subcontinent) , Hanafi- Salafi Level......... It is still above among Scholars.

Those who are Presenting it as issue of Fazail e Amaal /Tablighi Jamaat/ Maulana
zakaria / Deoband / Hanafi...........they have either very little Knowledge / if knowledge then doing for Groupism / Secterianism. 3.Those
who are making it isolated case of fazail e Amaal they are cheating
themselves and other Muslims.They are concealing truth and telling lie
knowingly or unknowingly.

Allah pak has told many Stories in Quran and Finally said AHSANAL QASASA.............Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam used to tell stories of Bani Israeel. ...........

Stories has an special bearing on understanding/ delivering the message.They present a live example.Throughout the Islamic history Scholars has written books about Aulia Allah and these scholar list also include ibne Taimyya and Ibne Qayyim and Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan Rahimullah . ............Some of these stories has been reproduced in fazail e amaal with reference. This is not even 2% of total content of Fazail e Amaal

Why it is So??????? that the same stories that has no Problem for Ahle sunnat Scholars throughout Islamic history...... OVERNIGHT BECOME SHIRK FOR SOME PEOPLE.................

WHAT IS THE REASON????????

WHY IT IS SO???????????????

WHAT IS CORRECT ANSWER???????????1.NO PROBLEM..........Majority of Ahle Sunnat Scholars for centuries, as these stories in fazail e Amaal are not new Rather from earlier books. In Fazail e Amaal they have been rewritten with reference.And these were established Aulia Allah whose integrity is undisputed. 2.
NO PROBLEM......For a Shekhul Hadith Muhaddith (the writer of Fazail e Amaal) who taught
Bukhari Shareef for more than 20 years in India and Madinah, Has done
masterpiece work like Aujazul Masalik, Scholary work on Bukhari, Book on
Khasael e Nabwi and called as sheikhul hadith by Islamic Scholars
like Abul Hasan Ali Nadvi R.A and Mufti Shafee Usmani , who wrote
Tafseer of Quran in Urdu are Regarded as Authority. 3.
NO PROBLEM......For a book that is read daily in the mosque of Darul
Uloom Deoband and Nadwatul Ulema and thousands of other Madarsa and Houses having
lakhas of Muhaddith, Faqeeh , Mufti and Mashaikh .

How it become Shirk for Some?????

What is the Reason??????????

WE WENT AFTER THIS WHY and HOW???

After
going deep into the issue and reading books and article against
FAZAIL E AMAAL what is clear that these allegation are basically broader
and are based on the difference of opinion on certain issues among the
scholars of Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat/Sunni. (Hanafi,shafaee,hanbali,maliki,AhleHadith/Salafi)

Problem areas between Majority of Ahle Sunnat Scholars (Sunni) and ......................Group Scholars(Who are accusing shirk allegation )1.KARAMATE AULIA 2.Permissible types of Waseelah.(There is no controversy that waseela perse is permissible)3.Level of life in Qabar of Prophet and Shuhada and Aulia Allah is equal to common Muslim or different.4.Sufism/Tasawwuf/Tazakiya/Ihsan

Because of difference of opinion on these broader issuesfor Same story of Aulia Allah that Majority of Ulema of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat regard as possible correct and are under KARAMAT E AULIA ,& Special Life of Qabar for ANBIA AND SHUHADA.The .................................... scholars has a divergent view on these issues and consider it as impossible and alledges that it is showing Shirk.

ISSUE OF KARAMAT E AULIA

There are a lot of things which only Allah knows, And only Allah has right to know.but it is Allah will that He can let some of it
known to others. No one can ask question to Allah.Why he gave this special blessing to a particular person at a particular time.

Yaqub
Alaihissalam could not trace from the well of Kunan which was nearby But By will of
Allah he could smell the cloths of Yusuf Alaihissalam from far away
Egypt.
He used Isa Alaihissalam for showing the cure of leprosy and blind but didnot give to many other Prophet.He knows from the beginning, but He may let it know some part later to his Prophet or his friends (Aulia Allah)"(And
all who obey Allah and the Apostle) are in the company of those on
whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of
truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship."
(an-Nisa', 69,70)

A muslim believe that Karamat/ Kashf is totally under control of Allah.It is not related to the will or status of a person (Aulia Allah) .It is by Allah will and not the Desire/status of person have much Role.

Sometimes a person other than Prophet may get Kramat from Allah.Eg:
Quran says that Hazrat Mariyam used to get fruits without season and
Prophet Zakaria was not getting,But it does not mean that she became
bigger than Prophet.As already being said that through kashf a lot of things can be seen/feel with the permission of Allah.like this one:

KARAMAT/KASHF OF ABU BAKAR RAZIALLAHU ANHU
'A'ishah narrated: "When he(Abu bakr) was on his deathbed, my father(Abu bakr) said to me: "Verily, you have two brothers and two sisters." So, I became startled at this, as I only had two brothers and one sister. He referred to his then-pregnant wife, Bint Kharijah, saying: "I see that she is pregnant with a girl," and that turned out to be exactly the case."
[Reported by ash-Shatibi in 'al-Muwafaqat' (4/85), and Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned it in 'Majmu' al-Fatawa' (11/318)]

Yaqub
Alaihissalam could not trace from the well of Kunan But By will of
Allah he could smell the cloths of Yusuf Alaihissalam from far away
Egypt.

So if you will see the Karamat e Aulia with Muslim vision you will find the greatness of Allah. Otherwise
you may find something else if you consider that it has been done by
the Aulia Allah, then it will become shirk,as Some of the groups are
making Propaganda of Shirk in Aulia Allah Stories IN FAZAIL E AMAAL.(These stories are from older book of great Imams and scholars REPRODUCED WITH REFERENCE)May Allah show all of us Right path.

SHAIKHUL ISLAM IBNE TAIMIYYA R.A. views on these Issues"The
miracles of saints are absolutely true and correct, by the acceptance
of all Muslim scholars. And the Qur'an has pointed to it in different
places, and the Hadith of the Prophet (s) has mentioned it, and whoever
denies the miraculous power of saints are only people who are
innovators and their followers." [al-Mukhtasar al-Fatawa, page 603].

Ibn Taymiyya says, "what is considered as a miracle for a saint is that
sometimes the saint might hear something that others do not hear and
they might see something that others do not see, while not in a
sleeping state, but in a wakened state of vision. And he can know
something that others cannot know, through revelation or inspiration."
[Majmu'a Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya, Vol. 11, p. 314].

The testimony of the Karamat (charismata) occurred by the Auliya (those righteous people who are close to Allah) also forms part of the principles of Ahlus-Sunnah, as also the testimony of all those extraordinary occurrences and habits which Allah manifests through them in terms of various knowledges, spiritual experiences, powers, and influences and those that are mentioned in the Qur'anic Surah Al Kahf etc. regarding former communities and about the initial period of the Sahaba and Taba'een of this Ummah till today and will continue to remain till the day of judgement.

A. ....................Group also accept KARAMAT E AULIA as correct but Practically their stand is to “DENY ANY OCCURRENCE OF KARAMAT

So they denotes all the stories of Aulia Allah Kramat as Fabricated /showing shirk/ etc word of their choice

Actually
Karamat are impossible thing. But everything is under the control of Allah will,power and
knowledge. And doing impossible as possible is by Allah only. Auliah has
no role except Allah chosen them for manifestation of Power. So this
should be approach of a muslim. Their are certain things
that can be disapproved as wrong through logic, But in the light of Quran
and Hadith they are correct and certain. A muslim should have an
approach that even if something looking impossible but proved by Quran
and authentic sources he should

C.This difference of approach leads to different view on a particular story of KARAMAT E AULA

ILevel of life in Qabar of Prophet and Shuhada and Aulia Allah Issue.

1. Every
one has to taste the death,(Kulli Nafsin ZaeqatulMaut)........ and
Prophet S.A.W. has also tasted it...............There is no controversy
on it...........Then there is a life for everyone in Graves /That is life of Barzakh in Qabr for all human being thats why ..............authentic Ahadith about AZAB E QABR.......COMES IN HADITH .....

There is no difference upto this Point.............

All are agreed that everyone has to die and for everyone their is life in Qabar, So he will taste pleasure/ Azab e Qabr as mentioned in Ahadith.

NOW THE DIFFERENCE????????????

there is difference of opinion between Scholars about the level and detail explanation of life in Graves of Anbia and Shuhada/siddeeqeen and saliheen.

Majority of Scholars of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat has a view.......

They consider that all have died but the Grave life/Barzakh of Anbiya and Shuhada is special.And it is not like the life of common man...........

In surah Baqra (2:169) Allah Taala says

“And never take those killed in the way of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive, with their Lord, well-provided, happy with what Allah has given them of His grace; and they feel pleased with the good news, aboutthose who, after them, could not join them, that thereshall be no fear for them nor shall they grieve. [I70]

They present following Evidences from Quran and Ahadith in support of special Life for Prophet and Shuhada.

1.Allah (SWT) explicitly confirms the life of Shuhada (martyrs) in the Qur'aan:

[2:154] Do not say of those who are slain in the way of Allah that they are dead. Instead, they are alive, but you do not perceive.{jb_bluebox}

The prophets of Allah (SWT) are the best and the most noble of Allah (SWT)'s creation with our beloved Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) ranked the most high amongst them therefore since the Shuhada (martyrs) are alive we can state that the prophets of Allah (SWT) including the best amongst all of them Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is also alive.

2.Bodies of Prophets (AS) don't decay:

The earth is forbidden from decomposing the bodies of the prophets of Allah (AS).

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Aws ibn Aws (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam (AS) was created, on it he (AS) died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Apostle of Allah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam), how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets. [Abi Dawud]{jb_bluebox}

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Anas (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: The prophets (AS) are alive in their graves and they pray. [Baihaqi]{jb_bluebox}Nature of life of Prophets & Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam):

Prophets of Allah (AS) and Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) are alive in their graves and possess the life of Barzakh but in reality we do not know the exact nature and reality of their lives.

When Salautations and Salawaat are sent to the noble and beloved Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) from a distance then it is carried by specially appointed Angels and presented in his noble and auspicious presence.

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Abdullah Ibn Masood (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: Indeed there are many Angels of Allah (SWT) who sojourn the Earth and bring the Salam of my Ummati to me.[Baihaqi]{jb_bluebox}

It has been an unbroken practise of the Muslims to send Salutations to not only Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) but also to Khalifatur-Rasool Sayyidina Abu-Bak'r As-Sideeq (RA) and also to Ameerul-Mumineen Sayyidina Umar (RA) in Madina and the practise of the Sahaba (RA) is confirmed by

The lives of the Anbiyaa (Alayhis salaam) are also proven through the Ahaadith of Mi'raaj narrated by Bukhari and Muslim where it is mentioned that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) led the Anbiyaa (Alayhis salaam) is Salaat and also his meeting them in Jannah.4ibn Mas'ood (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Verily, Allah has angels travelling through the earth, they bring to me the salaams of my Ummah.' (Targheeb wat Tarheeb vol.2 pg.498)

Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Whoever recites Salawaat upon me (in my presence, I hear it and whoever sends Salawaat to me and he is not by me, his Salawaat is brought to me.' (Nasaaie)

SO BECAUSE OF THESE DIFFERENCE OF APPROACH ABOUT THE LIFE OF ANBIA AND AULIA IN QABAR THERE IS DIFFERENCE IN THE INTERPRETATION OF SAME STORY BY SCHOLARS

..................Group SCHOLARS VIEW about life in Qabar/Grave

There is no difference in the life of Grave of Prophet and of General Muslim/Common. Both have life of Barzakh and for all practical purposes there is no difference.

This difference bring a major impact on interpretation of stories

1)WASEELA and its permissible type. All Groups are Agreed on Waseela perse. And there is no controversy on the following points

2. Second type of waseela To make Tawassul to Almighty Allah due to one having performed a certain good deed. It is permissible and unanimously accepted.

It is supported by the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari in which three people were trapped in a cave. Each of them made Duaa to Allah Taala to move the obstructing rock and they requested Allah Taala to accept their duaas due to some good deed that each of them had done.

3. Third type of Waseela Request to a Pious person who is alive for making dua for the fulfillment of ones need It is permissible and unanimously

Difference of opinionon is on Fourth 4thType of Waseelah

The controversial point is 4th type of Waseela from from prophet /Aulia a after their death.

Waseelah by supplicating to Allah Ta’ala through the rank and position of certain individuals in the sight of Almighty Allah, alive or deceased.

This includes the Prophets alayhimus salaam, the martyrs and any other pious servant of Allah like Siddiqeen Shuhada and Saliheen.

For example; if one says, ‘Oh Allah, I beseech you to accept my du’aa due to the status of Rasulullah Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam in Your eyes, this form of Tawassul is permissible according to the vast majority of the Ulama and it has in fact remained part of their practise.

Before discussing in detail about waseela from pious following Principle that are agreed by both Sunni and Salafi Scholars is essential to know

Before discussing in detail about waseela from pious following Principle that are agreed by both Sunni and Salafi Scholars is essential to know

1. Waseela is not Dua from anyone other than Allah. Dua is an IBADAT that can be done only for Allah. When one uses Tawassul in supplication, one does not ask and seek from other than Allah.

2. While explaining/for understanding Waseela the example of King and person closer to king, Example of ladder/steps to reach the building must not be used. These are dangerous example and not proper at all and will lead to deviated thought sometimes may lead to the Shirk. Allah power/his way of doing things should never be compared it is free from all

3. Allah always command for best way.As waseela is way of quran and sunnah. So chances for acceptance of dua is more with waseela. And we should seek waseela to increase the dua acceptance . Tawassul is not only permitted, rather recommended But it is not a compulsory thing for a dua to be accepted.

'O Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam]! Ask Allah to cure me.' Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] replied, 'If you wish I will make Du'aa or else you may be patient and this is better for you.' The man said, 'Make Du'aa instead', Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] then commanded him to make Wudhu properly and that he recites the following Du'aa, 'Oh Allah, verily, I ask of you and I turn to you through your prophet, the prophet of mercy, O Muhammad [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], verily, I have turned to my Lord through you so that my need be fulfilled. Oh Allah, accept his intercession on my behalf.'

Imaams Tirmidhi, ibn Khuzaymah and Haakim have classified this Hadith as authentic.

The words, 'I turn to you through your prophet' clearly proves Tawassul through the position of a person. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] also told him that he should make the same supplication whenever he needed to. (al-Raddul Muhkamul Mateen pg.145)

HADITH NO 2

When a person leaves the Musjid, the following du'aa is recorded,

'Allaahumma inniy as-aluka bi haqqis-saa-ileena alayka, wa bi haqqi mamshaaya haaza...'. (Translation: Oh Allah, I ask you through the right of those who ask you and through the right of the act of my walking...)

In this narration, Tawassul through people is established, '...through the right of those who ask' and Tawassul through one's deeds is supported by the second part.

Imam Tabrani narrates: A person came to Uthman Ghani radhiallaahu anhu with regards to seeking some assistance, but he was unable to attract the attention of the Khalifah on every attempt. The same person met Uthman bin Haneef radhiallaahu anhu, and told him his problem. Uthman bin Hunayf gave him some advice which was: ‘Perform Wudhu, pray two rak’at Nawaafil and then supplicate in this way: “Ya Allah, I ask You through the Waseela of Your Messenger Muhammad sallallaahu alayhi wasallam. The person acted accordingly and again went to Uthman bin Affan radhiallaahu anhu who helped him with his work and also said ‘If you ever need my help in future, I will be there for you.”

Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyya after writing this narration comments: ‘Maqdasi states that this narration is Sahih and Hakim declares that it fulfils the conditions of Bukhari,’ Hafidhh Ibn Tayymiah goes on to say: ‘The opinion of Uthman bin Hunayf is that it is permitted to supplicate in this way even after our Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam passed away. But since this is not evident from any other companion it does not prove that it is Wajib.’ (Al-waseela Hafidhh Ibn Taymiyah page 98)

“And He is of a white complexion (i.e. the Prophet) through whose face rain of the clouds is sought and who is the refuge of the orphans and is the guardian of widows.”

In another narration Ibn ‘Umar said, “The following poetic verse occurred to my mind while I was looking at the face of the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam while he was praying for rain. He did not get down until the rain water flowed profusely from every roof-gutter:

“And He is of a white complexion (i.e. the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) through whose face rain is sought from the clouds and who is the refuge of the orphans and is the guardian of widows.

And these were the words of Abu Talib.” (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 17, Number 122)

Supporting ulema view about the Hadith of Umar Raziallah Anhu at the time of dua for rain.

In the Hadith recorded by Imam al-Bukhari and others, it is stated that at the time of Istisqaa (praying for rain) Hadhrat Umar radhi Allahu Anhu made Tawassul through the uncle of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu alayhi wasallam, namely Sayyiduna Abbas radhi Allahu Anhu,

Umar Ibn Khattab used to pray to Allah resorting to and through Abbas Ibn Abdul Muttalib during drought to get rainfall. He used to say: “O Allah we always did beseech you by petitioning through your Prophet (s.a.w) and you used to send us rain. Now we beseech you by petitioning through the Uncle of the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam. So let the rain fall. He says: “The people would get rain.” (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 17, Number 123)

Majority of Ahle Sunnat Scholars view about this Hadeeth.

1. The usool (principle) of the muhadditheen and the fuqaha (jurists) is that ‘leaving something out is not daleel of impermissibility.’

2.Hadhrat Umar used Hadhrat Abbas to show people the status of the Prophet’s family within the society and teach people to respect them, as Ibn Hajar said in explanation of the report of Hadhrat Anas:”It is desirable to seek the intercession of saintly people and the relatives of the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam, and it shows Hadhrat Abbas’s great merit and that of `Umar due to the latter’s humbleness before al-`Abbas and his recognition of his due right.” (Fathul Bari, volume 3, page 632, beirut)

3.Hadhrat Umar radhi allahu anhu did this to make it clear that it was permissible to seek intercession through others besides the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam, i.e. the people of righteousness and good whose barakah is hoped for. This is why we read in Fath-ul-Bari, after the story of Umar seeking intercession through Hadhrat Abbas radhi allahu anhu: “We can deduce from the story of Hadhrat Abbas that it is recommended to seek the intercession of the people of righteousness and good, and the people of the House of the Prophet.”

4.The use of the Prophet’s uncle shows that tawassul is essentially through the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam, as the importance of Hadhrat Abbas radhi allahu anhu in this respect is only in his relationship to the Prophet as ‘Umar himself states with the words “the uncle of your Prophet” and as Hadhrat Abbas radhi allahu anhu states:”O Allah, The people have turned to you by means of me because of my position in relation to your Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam.”Mentioned from al-Zubayr ibn Bakkar’s narration in al-Ansab by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (2:497).

5. Imam Hakim has mentioned in his Mustadrak that Hadhrat Umar radhi allahu anhu addressed the people:”O’ people, verily the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam would hold Hadhrat Abbas radhi allahu anhu in very high esteem as a son would his father, so follow the Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasallam in [his relationship towards] his uncle and make him a means to Allah in whatever befalls you.” (Musatadrak-e-Hakim Volume 3 Page 334)

Al-Mardawi said: "The correct position of the [Hanbali] madhhab is that it is permissible in one's du'a to use as one's means a pious person (saalih), and it is said that it is desirable (mustahabb). Imam Ahmad said to Abu Bakr al-Marwazi: 'Let him use the Prophet as a means in his supplication to Allah.'" (Al-Insaf 2:456) This is also cited by Ibn Taymiyyah in Majmu' Al-Fatawa (1:140).

"And in this hadith is proof for the permissibility of tawassul through the Prophet [s] to Allah, with the conviction that the [actual] doer is Allah, and that He is the Giver and the Withholder. What He wills is, and what He does not will, will never be."

Ibn Hajar (Tahdhib 7:339) narrates the account of the Imam of Ahlul-Hadith Ibn Khuzaymah, under the entry of the same Ali bin Musa Al-Ridha. He relates that Ibn Khuzaymah also performed tawassul at the grave of Al-Ridha.

In his Rijal book Al-Thuqat (8:456:14411), under the entry of Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, Ibn Hibban relates his own account of going to Al-Ridha's grave, performing tawassul through him and states that whenever "I was afflicted with a problem during my stay in Tus, I would visit the grave of Ali bin Musa (Allah's blessings be upon his grandfather and him) and ask Allah to relieve me of that problem and it (my dua) would be answered and the problem alleviated. And this is something I did, and found to work, many times ..."

These are not ......................present day type polemic debator.Rather they are authority on Hadeeth and scholars of undisputed integrity.So view is based on these Ahadith .

3.Issues of Sufism

A) Present day.................Group scholars and brothers are permanently dead against Sufism. They criticise/sometimes demonise Sufism by all their effort.They uses the word SUFI/TASAWWUF as synonymous to shirk.

B)However scholar that .............................group claims to be closer to their views like Ibne Taimiya R.A.and Ibne Qayyim R.A. has endorsed Sufism and always used to have good words about sufism.(It is known to all that on the name of Sufism so many bad people has entered and spreade Innovation on Graves and so many rituals. No one is supporting those deviated people on the name of Sufism. And Ulmae Haq and good Sufis themselves has always come up agaist innovations on the name of Tasawwuf. The person who gave death sentense to Mansur Hallaj was also a sufi Junaid Bughdadi.R.A. Although both were Sufi but when he Junaid R.A. felt something contradictory to Shariah he Gave death sentence. Mujaddid Alfasani R.A ,Syed Ahmad Shaheed, Syed Ismaeel Shaheed R.A also were Sufis but strived against wrong practices on the name of Tasawwuf, and made it pure and according to Quran and Sunnah. )

Ibn Taymiyya (661 - 728 AH)

"Tasawwuf has realities and states of experience which they talk about in their science. Some of it is that the Sufi is that one who purifies himself from anything which distracts him from the remembrance of Allah and who will be so filled up with knowledge of the heart and knowledge of the mind to the point that the value of gold and stones will be the same to him. And Tasawwuf is safeguarding the precious meanings and leaving behind the call to fame and vanity in order to reach the state of Truthfulness, because the best of humans after the prophets are the Siddiqeen, as Allah mentioned them in the verse:

"(And all who obey Allah and the Apostle) are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship." (an-Nisa', 69,70)

"...some people criticised Sufiyya and Tasawwuf and they said they were innovators, out of the Sunnah, but the truth is they are striving in Allah's obedience [mujtahidin fi ta'at-illahi], as others of Allah's People strove in Allah's obedience. So from them you will find the Foremost in Nearness by virtue of his striving [as-saabiq ul-muqarrab bi hasab ijtihadihi]. And some of them are from the People of the Right hand [Ahl al-Yameen mentioned in Qur'an in Sura Waqi'ah], but slower in their progress.... And this is the origin of Tasawwuf. And after that origin, it has been spread and [tasha'abat wa tanawa'at] has its main line and its branches. [Majmu'a Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya al-Kubra, Vol. 11, Book of Tasawwuf, p. 497].

"The miracles of saints are absolutely true and correct, by the acceptance of all Muslim scholars. And the Qur'an has pointed to it in different places, and the Hadith of the Prophet (s) has mentioned it, and whoever denies the miraculous power of saints are only people who are innovators and their followers." [al-Mukhtasar al-Fatawa, page 603]. Ibn Taymiyya says, "what is considered as a miracle for a saint is that sometimes the saint might hear something that others do not hear and they might see something that others do not see, while not in a sleeping state, but in a wakened state of vision. And he can know something that others cannot know, through revelation or inspiration." [Majmu'a Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya, Vol. 11, p. 314].

Ibn Qayyim (691 - 751 AH.)

"We can witness the greatness of the People of Sufism, in the eyes of the earliest generations of Muslims by what has been mentioned by Sufyan ath-Thawri (d. 161 AH), one of the greatest imams of the second century and one of the foremost legal scholars. He said, "If it had not been for Abu Hisham as-Sufi (d. 115) I would never have perceived the action of the subtlest forms of hypocrisy in the self... Among the best of people is the Sufi learned in jurisprudence." [Manazil as-Sa'ireen.]

C)It is true that some people on the name of sufism did something parralal/against shariat, but these were only few black spot and

D) Majority of Sufis have been on Shariat and Sunnat. They were the propagator of Tauheed and were saviors of Islamic spirit.

After Shaba you will find that Islam reached to different places by the pious personalities of Sufia Karam.Just read History of Islam Propagation in North India,Kashmir,Kerala, Lakshdeep or Islamic rervival after the period of King AKBAR.

E) But the Present day............................Group are very liberal in branding anyone sufi according to their bad definition of sufi and this labeling is enough to brand someone wrong.Whatever good comes from a person if he has been labeled by them as sufi they will not accept.

The Ahadith and hadith discussion has been taken from central mosque with thanks.

Here we are not discussing the validity or invalidity of ...............Group Position.(Who is accusing shirk in Aulia Allah Stories)

What we simply want to say some Rational points of Justice............But ...........group is not opposing Imam Ibne Taimmiya/Imam Ibne Qayyim/Imam Syuti for the same story ............but concealing the fact and presenting to public as an isolated case of Fazail e Amaal only to oppose the blessed work of Dawah and Tabligh because of group mentality that is metastatic cancer of present day Muslim Groups..

If..........................Group brothers are not satisfied with the supportive Quranic Ayats and Ahadith presented by great Majority of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat Scholars theninstead of targetting Tablighi Jamaat/general muslims they should go to Madaris/Big Ulemas and should present their point to them.

Ulemas having other position can be found everywhere. It is not a difficult thing to find them.I can suggest some of the Alim .

In Arab Maulana Makki who daily give dars in Masjid e Haram after Magrib and after Isha.Rather he clearly emphatically present the position of Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat on these issues.And similarly an uncountable Aalims of this majority group of Ahle sunnat Wal Jamaat.

Arguing/confusing general muslims will not solve the issue.

If they are really serious on the issue they should consult Madarsa/ Alims.

TABLIGHI JAMAAT CANNOT DO MUCH TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES

What I think it is wrong and unjustified to expect from Tablighi jamaat/Fazail e amaal/Maulana zakariya to solve these root cause of differences.

This issue is outside their scope/jurisdiction/interference/authority.

If someone is expecting from them he is fooling himself and at the same time to others also.

MAULANA ZAKARIA HAS Ahle sunnat (Sunni) position and APPROACH

Maulana zakaria the (author of FAZAIL E AMAAL) stand on all these issues according to the majority of muslims that is Ahle sunnat wal jamaat approach (that has difference with ...............Group approach).

His approach is broadly reflected in selection of stories in FAZAIL E AMAAL .

WHO CAN SOLVE THESE ISSUES

A.These differences are at much higher level among Ulemae e karam. On all these issues 90% of Scholars are on one side of Table while Salafi are on the other side.

B.If Ummat solves these broader issues the consequential differences can also be solved.

C.It is very important,novel but untouched area to work between Ulmae Karam. If anyone want to do something for ummat it is a very good opportunity and area to work among scholars of Islam. It is broader and continuing issue that should be solved at higher level between scholars. Only big Ulemas and Madarsas representing salafi and sunnis can solve these issues.

IT IS LOSS OF UMMAT E MUSLIMA

1)Volumes has been written on for and against of Fazail E Amaal.I have three books and one 20 page article in favour of Fazaaile amal and also 2 books against Fazail E Amaal.All these for and against centre around these core issues.

2)General Muslim are wasting their energy and resources on these discussion and publication no significant effort is on to solve the core issue.

3)They are abusing each other making fun of teaching of quran and Hadith.

4)Tablighi Jamaat has been blessed specially by grace of Allah and Ummat can get benefit from their effort. They are generally devouted ,Allah Fearing and having love for Sunnat and also practice it considerably.But this allegation and counterallegation has its own impact.

5)Tablighi Jamaat has nothing to loss. It is not an party or organization or membership /financial or administrative position .

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One of the greatest Islamic scholar of last century Faisal Award Winner Fazilatus SheikhSyed Abul Hasan Ali Nadvi Rahimullah said...........

The Tabligh movement is ideally suited to meet the demand of time and repel the mounting challenge ofdisbelieve and irreligiousness. The present day materialists and Baatil movements make a direct appeal to the common masses and sedulously sow the seed of doubts among them.Ideological debates religious literature and plans and activities that are confined to the elite and do not involve the common man cannot arrest the progress of apostasy and materialism. Only a religious movement which begins at their grassroot and goes straight to the labourers cottage and farmer field and ignores no section of the society can provide an effective answer to the menace of irreligiousness. (Book Life and Mission of Maulana Ilyas Page no 204)

It (Tabligh Movement) is the start of an era of purely religious effort.Those people who will take part and move forward with courage are certainely the distinguished one.The only thing is at stake is the proper utilisation of time and capabilities given by Allah Tabarak o Taala and the reward is so precious that is even beneficial at the cost of life...........

This description is not only to read and close it, Rather it is a live Dawah..............(30th March 1946)

"There are four ways of attaining self reformation and by good chance, they all happen to be found in the tablighi jama'at. It includes sitting in the company of the pious, it includes dzikr and fikr, it includes brotherhood for the pleasure of Allah, it includes taking lessons from enemies and also taking account of oneself. The tablighi jama'at is a conglomeration of the four. For an average person there can be no way better than this for attaining self-reformation.

THE ROLE AND STATUS OF FAZAIL-E-A’MAL IN TABLEEGH JAMA’AT

1.Fazail e Amaal is collection of Nine books in two volume on virtues/Fazail of different acts like Salat, Quran, Rememberance of Allah, Dawah o Tabligh, Fasting and Ramzan, Haj and Umrah, Charity and Huququl Ibad (Personal Social relation and Obligations).Two other books are Stories of Sahaba and Present Degeneration of Muslims and its Remeady.

2.The purpose of Fazail e Amaal to encourage muslim to be connected with Quranic Life.Fazail/virtues of acts/worship strengthen belief on the Rewards of Allah e.g. If I pray Salat with Jamaat/congregation Allah will give reward 27 times more, strong belief on the promises of Allah is the key for moving towards Quranic commands and Islamic way of life.

3.In Fazail e Amaal On each Topic Quranic Ayats Ahadith has been put together with great efforts by Sheikhul Hadith(Person who teaches Bukhari Shareef) Maulana Muhammad Zakariyya(Rah), one of the most distinguished scholar of Islamic World of Last century.

4.In covering different topics Hadhrat sheikh has mentioned Hadith touching the collateral topics also. For example if Hadith is about Salat in which some mention about Child Family Tarbiat (Care) has been done. Then sheikh in commentary will give the related Ahadith about Family Care also. This has made the book very useful and effective for encouraging towards Quranic Life.The millions of people benefiting from, is a reflection of Allah acceptance for the book and writer.

3.Without any doubt Fazail e Amaal has benefited hundreds of millions all over the world not only giving Ilm but connecting them with Quranic Life. Islam is a way of Life and not a philosophy and Practical Islamic life is very important for spreading Islam.

5.Although Sheikhul hadith Maulana Zakaria has written Fazail e Amaal in accordance with the principles laid down by Great Imams/Scholars on issues like use of weak Ahadith for encouragement, etc.........Even Imam Bukhari R.A.has used weak Ahadith in his book Al Adabul mufrad as it was a book of Fazail, Same case with Ibne Taimmiya R.A. also..................

Sheikh Zakaria himself was an scholar of Bukhari, taught Bukhari Shareef for nearly 20 years in India and Madeena, he even has done scholary work on it ..........................................some muslim groups has some reservation on certain aspect like weak Ahadith etc. These issues are broad in ummat and not only related with book Fazail e Amaal and almost all Muhaddith/Imam among Salafus Salehin has agreed that weak Ahadith are permissible in Virtues/targeeb/Encouragement. Still...........if someone is not Comfortable with Fazail e Amaal.He may go in Jamaat/take part in the Dawah effort of Tablighi Jamaat without using Fazaile Amaal.They may use other books as below mentioned...........

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1.Some Groups/Brothers make a Propaganda and claim that Fazail E Amaal is only book read in Tablighi Jamaat and Ijtema.

2.First of all in Weekly Ijtema Fazail e Amaal is not read at all. In weekly Ijtema Ahadith and life of prophet and Sahaba (collected in book Hayatus Sahaba) is Read Only.

3.For Individual Taleem You can chose Tafseer/Hadith/any Islamic Book of Your choice.

4.Out of this Muntakhab Ahadith (Collection of Quranic Ayats and Authentic Ahadith and no Commentry/Stories) is very Popular.So they may use Muntakhab Ahadith.

1.It is a total misconception/allegation that Fazail-e-A’mal is the guide book of Tableegh Jama’at.

2.The concept of Tableegh Jama’at was not derived from this book, nor is the jama’at dependant on this book to do the work of tableegh.

3.They thought it necessary to stipulate such a book that would encourage people towards good deeds/Virtues of Emaan and Amaal e Saliha,thats why Fazail e Amaal book.

4However, it is not compulsory upon each an every person who joins this effort to read Fazail e Amaal.5.Many Places in India and allover the world are using Muntakhib Ahadith(collection of Quranic Ayah and Ahadith on Iman, Salat, Ilm O Zikr, Ikram E Muslim, Ikhlas E niyah,Dawat E Ilallah,and Tark e Layani. ) and Hayatus Sahaba.

6.Many of the Arabs who are doing this effort chose to read Riyadu-s-Saliheen instead, and they are carrying on with the work of Dawat-o-Tabligh.

7. Therefore, it is totally incorrect to regard this book as the guide book of Tableegh Jama’at.

Tabligh door is open 24X7.

Come and understand it before making Allegation and confusing Muslims.

A Renowed Islamic Scholar & Authority on contemporary Islamic issues,Member of All India Muslim Personal Law Board express his pain on the affairs of muslim Ummah in these words..........."The………….. (Country name) visit has again reminded me that Muslims are not concerned about actual issues.

Maslaki ikhtalafat (Fiqh Dispute e.g. placing hand in salat, Ameen loud or silent etc.)organizational and group affiliations has made them unaware from actual issues and dangers that ummah is facing.(He is mentioning actual issues and dangers later in the article) The Ulema are the real leader of ummat but their intellect is becoming outsourced on small issues. Their too much involvements(debates etc) in trivial issues has also damaged their credibility among general muslims and has increased the differences...This situation is prevailing throughout the Muslim world……….In difference of opinion there is no point of stressing on a particular position..But alas this has become an ego issue.…There are many real issues/Challenges to work 1.Urgent need of Islamic conditioning of youth/future generation (to make all muslims as practicing muslim following commands of Allah&Path of Muhammad SallallahuAlaihiwasallam) 2.Removing misconceptions against Islam,3.Inviting fellow Humankind to our creator Almighty Allah to save all from fire of Hell.(ALL HUMANS ARE OUR REAL BROTHER AND SISTERS AS ALL ARE SON AND DAUGHTER OF ADAM ALAIHISSALAM) For Further detail click here

Ummat Pana/Ummat Hood is a word that is unknown now a days. Majority of Muslims has no concern about deen. At some places (ap70-80 %) are not offering even Salat. Some 10% has some concern about revival of deen. This 10% is our treasure.There is nothing wrong in Making organisation /jamaat for common cause rather good but groupism is worst thing.Groupism is a cancer.But very sorry to say that many of this 10% has become deep ridden in Groupism/bashing buiseness of other organisation. They are nurtured in a way thinking that if you blamed/criticising others you are doing a great work of Islam.

Brother Sister always keep Islam first. This is direct command of quran and Hadith All the well wisher of Ummat e.g Allama Iqbal in Jawab e Shikwa,Muft Shafi Usmani in book Ummat e Wahdat,Maulana Mahmoodul Hasan after coming from Malta, Maulana Ilyas in his Malfoozat,Maulana Yusuf in Ummat Hood (the last talk of his life), Maulana Abul hasan Ali Nadvi in many books,Mufti Ibraheem Desai and Mufti Taqi Usmani...... in many fatawa and Talk,Maulana Saad of Markaz Nizamuddin in book Priceless Advice In the word of Dr. Israr Ahmad (firqa bandi ek ghun hai jo ummat andar se khae ja raha hai) Groupism is a disease that is eating ummat strenth from within.and list is countless. Brother/sister please stop from groupism.

WHAT IS HAPPENING ON INTERNET

On internet Muslim groups /internet video scholars are deeply ridden with criticism/allegation/leg pulling of each other instead of much needed positive work in different field of Islam.Very few people are concerned that Many Muslims (app 70-80% at some places) are not offering even five time prayers the pillar of Islam. But Many scholars are busy proving whether ameen loud or silent is superior that too on You tube and Facebook.Although authentic Ahadith prove both as Sunnah.Alas is this Priority of Muslim Ummah.......Everyone is suffering because of this groupism/leg pulling.The victim and offenders keeps on changing with time.Person remain sameTake a Live EXAMPLE.Many TV/you tube scholars incompetently got involved in issues of Islamic Jurisprudence like Position of Hand in Prayer etc. without knowing all the Ahadith and authenticity discussion on Ahadith and consequently TV scholars presents one Hadith and concealed other Ahadith.These issues irritated great Majority of Islamic Scholars and of 97 % of Muslims who are following one of the four Imams in Jurisprudence issues May Allah pardon all of us .The problem of ummat is that they dont know the ethics of disagreement. This book may help them click here to read.

The big leaders of different groups (Actual greats not video/tv/you tube scholars) are fed up with this ,consider themselves as victim.They want to stop it but Iblees has made it a viscous cycle. An immediate effort is required to decrease it. It has been suggested some way out to do work at ground to solve this problem.....you are Requested to give valuable suggestion for this......click for detail...

This is not the official blog of Tablighi Jamaat. Tableeghi Jamaat has a written policy for criticism and allegations.

Maulana Inamul Hasan (R.A.)(died 1995) the former Amir of Tableeghi Jamaat has said."It is better that in case the objections and criticism if they are correct, rectify them .{No one is free from shortcomings} Whereas if they are wrong ,have patience (leave the matter to Allah)."

Tablighi Jamaat is doing the basic, crucial important ground work of bringing people towards the way of Almighty. They are connecting people to their lord, and millions are getting benef Alhamdulillah. Great Majority of Muslims all over the world actively/passively co-operating with it. But few persons/Organizations criticize it because of group mentality with baseless allegations and confuse the general Public. This is not loss of tablighi jamaat as in Tabligh their is no post/position/Money matters,so no loss or gain.But it is loss of Islamic Dawah, loss of Muslim Ummah and loss of humanity at large.We ……For moreLink 2