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Re: (GRE Success! ) Select a Univ. from admits

I did a search on the professors on CiteSeer and also looked through there publications. Please find my observations below (Sorry, if it seems very lengthy):

University of Central Florida:There are 4 profs related to Vision who are members of 2 vision related labs. Of these 4,profile of 2 looks very interesting. They are:

1. Dr Mubarak Shah: He is the head of Computer Vision lab. Has written some books and many journals on Computer Vision. Shows 198 results when searched on CITESEER. Has received several awards for best prof. etc and an award for bringing most funding to UCF. Is associated with UCF since 1986. On his CV it is written that 'According to Google the CV lab at UCF is the most visited Computer Vision lab in the world'. His CV alone with all the publications has 63 pages.
Has guided 14 PhD students and has 19Phd students right now. But only 1 MS student listed on website.

2. Dr Hassan Forroosh: He is the head of Computer Imaging Lab. Various related publications are listed on his website, from 1994 to present. Dr. Foroosh is a senior member of IEEE, and was an Associate Editor of the IEEE Transactions on Image Processing in 2003-2008. In 2004, he was a recipient of an academic excellence award from Sun MicroSystems, and the Pierro Zamperoni award from the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). He also received the Best Scientific Paper Award in the International Conference on Pattern Recognition of IAPR. His research has been sponsored by NASA, NSF, ONR, FPCE, and industry (as written on his website). A search on cite seer resulted in 13 results. Prior to UCF he was research scientist at UCB and UMDCP. Has done his PhD from France.

3. Niels da Vitoria Lobo: Has 3 patents on his name.

4. Marshall Tappen: Has done PhD from MIT. Has many publications listed. But said he does not advise grad students currently.

Research and publications of 1 and 2 are in line with the research I wish to pursue.

University of Missouri, Columbia:

1. Dr Guilherme de souza: Director of Vision Guided Intelligent Robotics Lab. This lab is listed by NASA for robotics. Has told that he will be happy to consider me as a grad student under him, though he cannot guarantee funding right now. He also insists that student choose the research topics they are interested in, rather than he giving a research topic. Has published many papers on Robotic Vision and co-authored 3 books on Robotic Vision along with many journals. Search on CiteSeer resulted in 21 results with all the publication very interesting. His research excites me the most. Has done PhD from Purdue Univ.
Has received the following awards.2004 Outstanding Advisor of the Year Nominee from the Office of the Dean of Students at Purdue University.
1998 Maria Canto Neuberger Memorial Research Award from
the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1997 Honeywell Teaching Award from the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1996 NSF Grant to participate in the US/Japan Student Forum in Robotics.
1996-1999 PhD. Fellowship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.
1993 Scholarship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.

Srihari,1. If I consider research than Prof 1 and 2 of UCF seems equally good to me to Prof. 1 of UMC.
2. Prof1 and prof. 2 of UCF professors looks to be very experienced and there are in all 4 profs for Vision there. 3. Though Professor DeSouza at UMC is not as experienced as UCF profs(in terms of years of teaching), he has an added advantage of research in Robotic Vision(which is my precise choice), he also is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. I have also received a reply form him, that he will consider me for research in his lab(no financial assistance right now). He also has a course plan designed just for Robotic Vision specialization.
4. Though I am not considering it as a deciding factor, studying at UMC is cheaper in comparison to UCF. Is'nt it?

Thanks a lot for this long reading. Now,What would you suggest, after looking at the above information. How important are the number of years of experience and awards of the profs.

Search online for grant proposals/funding news with the names of the Professors who chair the labs. If the students working in these labs have aid, and no issues with aid continuity, that is also a good sign - and this is something you can directly ask the students.

Students from both of these schools have said that the professor with whom they are working (both concentrated on Computer Vision) are very good.
At univ. of Florida there is lot of research going on in Computer Vision.
While at UMC, the lab that I am interested in is listed by NASA for robotics, also the professor there is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. He also has a course plan specifically designed for specialization in Vision, listed on his website.

BTW,you suggested to find out how well funded the groups are, how do I find this information coz I cannot find much info. about this on website.Also, if you like, I can post the links of the labs which are concerned with Vision, so that you can have a look and give your opinion.

Can you detail what they say? Are the favorable views about the research quality, interactions, Professor attitudes, research groups - the dynamics and their success, employability, etc.

To be honest, the only school that I have a fair opinion about in Florida is UFL, Gainsville and in Missouri, Roulla.

However, you should never rely on one person's opinion. Assuming time is on your side, dig deeper. Find out as much as you can about the schools. How about contacting some non-Indian graduate students to see if they share the same view?

Since you mentioned PhD, have you tried to look at how well funded the groups are, the research quality, journal mentions etc?

I know I sound tedious, but I would say you are looking at at least 2 if not 3 schools that are on an almost even keel.

I have contacted students from Indian subcontinent who are studying at UCF and UMC. Students from both these univ's have only good things to say about them.
Can you give me some idea about the over all reputation of both these schools?

Rutgers does not seem to be the best for Computer Vision among the 3 schools. It has only 1 PhD student in the Vision related lab, moreover there are only 2 profs for Vision. I have a friend there and he told that many times the courses related to Vision gets cancelled there (it happened to him) due to less students enrolling. So in terms of repute it seems to be the best but not so good for research.

People I have consulted, have suggested that Rutgers is good if I want to do the course for getting a job afterwards, but I am more interested in learning through research than job, so it does not look my best bet.

The other two(UMC and UCF) are pretty good in terms of research for Vision.

Of your list, Rutgers is the better choice in terms of repute. You would do better to go there, IMO. Do see if the other two schools have any other factors that make them better for Vision and Imaging.

I have received accepts from the following universities for Master's in ECE for fall 2012:

1. Rutgers2. Univ. of Missouri, Columbia
3. Univ. of Central Florida

I want go for a thesis based course and do research and specialization in Computer Vision/ Robot Vision/Image processing. I would also want to convert to a PhD if I find a good professor and research to work on.

Sorry, I just saw this. I don't think poor academics = application to low ranked schools. In any case, some of those schools you suggest are not going to add much value to your career goals at all. This is why I am not recommending most of the schools. Please do a deeper dive and get back to me. Also, focus on public schools, as opposed to schools like USC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have shortlisted all these universities coz they are good in Image Processing/computer vision which is my specialization area. Moreover coz of my poor acads ( just 56%) and not so high GRE score (1260), I think I cannot get higher ranked university, though I have 15 months of work ex. in the same field.
What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have some ques: 1.)In the univ. where it is allowed to take a certain no. of courses (may be 1 or 2) outside dept., will the credits of such courses count?
2.) Can you please throw some light on my prospects of getting admit in the listed universities.
3.) Can you give me some information on Canadian Universities, if not any such good group like gre-success where I can ask my queries?

This is a rather long list. You will be able to take courses elsewhere, but certain schools are strict about what coursework will be considered towards graduation. It would be advised that you contact the specific schools about this requirement. Dig in for comments:

I have shortlisted some universities for Master's application. Would like your precious comments on them. Just to remind, I have completed my engineering in Electronics and Telecommunication
from Pune University. I am looking for Master's prospects emphasizing
research in Image processing and Computer Vision.My credentials:GRE: 1270Acads: BE(E&TC) 56% aggregateTOEFL: 105Work Ex: 1 year(3 projects) in Image processing.

As many of the universities have CV and IP courses in Computer Science
dept and I am an E&TC engineer, is it possible that I take admission
for Master's in ECE department and take a couple of courses in Computer
Engineering and Science department that would add in my prescribed
credit hours. I do not want to join as Master's in Computer Science
department, as that would require me to take some extra courses.

I am considering the following universities with respect to my specialization. Please add your comments about the univ. and my prospects of getting admission in them.

1. University of Texas, Arlington.2. Texas Tech University.3. Rochester Institute of technology.4. Florida State University.5. Portland State university

I would take out 2, 4 and 5 unless they have specific courses not offered elsewhere.

6. Oklahoma State university.7. Univ. Of South Florida8. Univ. Of Missouri, Columbia

I am not sure of any of the above.

9. Univ. Of North Carolina, Charlotte10. Univ of Houston11. Utah State Univ.12 Polytechnic Institute of New York.
13. Univ of California, Riverside14. University of Illinois, Chicago

Of these, 9, 13 and 14 are the only ones I would consider. UC Riverside is expensive, as are all UCs, so be sure you are applying for the value.

Re: (GRE Success! ) Select a Univ. from admits

All other things being equal, the lab in UCF has more researchers and is more prominent. U. Miss has the NASA connections, and is also compelling, but is more remotely situated. In terms of grad student life, the ability to find employment etc., I would pick Florida.

I did a search on the professors on CiteSeer and also looked through there publications. Please find my observations below (Sorry, if it seems very lengthy):

University of Central Florida:There are 4 profs related to Vision who are members of 2 vision related labs. Of these 4,profile of 2 looks very interesting. They are:

1. Dr Mubarak Shah: He is the head of Computer Vision lab. Has written some books and many journals on Computer Vision. Shows 198 results when searched on CITESEER. Has received several awards for best prof. etc and an award for bringing most funding to UCF. Is associated with UCF since 1986. On his CV it is written that 'According to Google the CV lab at UCF is the most visited Computer Vision lab in the world'. His CV alone with all the publications has 63 pages.
Has guided 14 PhD students and has 19Phd students right now. But only 1 MS student listed on website.

2. Dr Hassan Forroosh: He is the head of Computer Imaging Lab. Various related publications are listed on his website, from 1994 to present. Dr. Foroosh is a senior member of IEEE, and was an Associate Editor of the IEEE Transactions on Image Processing in 2003-2008. In 2004, he was a recipient of an academic excellence award from Sun MicroSystems, and the Pierro Zamperoni award from the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). He also received the Best Scientific Paper Award in the International Conference on Pattern Recognition of IAPR. His research has been sponsored by NASA, NSF, ONR, FPCE, and industry (as written on his website). A search on cite seer resulted in 13 results. Prior to UCF he was research scientist at UCB and UMDCP. Has done his PhD from France.

3. Niels da Vitoria Lobo: Has 3 patents on his name.

4. Marshall Tappen: Has done PhD from MIT. Has many publications listed. But said he does not advise grad students currently.

Research and publications of 1 and 2 are in line with the research I wish to pursue.

University of Missouri, Columbia:

1. Dr Guilherme de souza: Director of Vision Guided Intelligent Robotics Lab. This lab is listed by NASA for robotics. Has told that he will be happy to consider me as a grad student under him, though he cannot guarantee funding right now. He also insists that student choose the research topics they are interested in, rather than he giving a research topic. Has published many papers on Robotic Vision and co-authored 3 books on Robotic Vision along with many journals. Search on CiteSeer resulted in 21 results with all the publication very interesting. His research excites me the most. Has done PhD from Purdue Univ.
Has received the following awards.2004 Outstanding Advisor of the Year Nominee from the Office of the Dean of Students at Purdue University.
1998 Maria Canto Neuberger Memorial Research Award from
the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1997 Honeywell Teaching Award from the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1996 NSF Grant to participate in the US/Japan Student Forum in Robotics.
1996-1999 PhD. Fellowship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.
1993 Scholarship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.

Srihari,1. If I consider research than Prof 1 and 2 of UCF seems equally good to me to Prof. 1 of UMC.
2. Prof1 and prof. 2 of UCF professors looks to be very experienced and there are in all 4 profs for Vision there. 3. Though Professor DeSouza at UMC is not as experienced as UCF profs(in terms of years of teaching), he has an added advantage of research in Robotic Vision(which is my precise choice), he also is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. I have also received a reply form him, that he will consider me for research in his lab(no financial assistance right now). He also has a course plan designed just for Robotic Vision specialization.
4. Though I am not considering it as a deciding factor, studying at UMC is cheaper in comparison to UCF. Is'nt it?

Thanks a lot for this long reading. Now,What would you suggest, after looking at the above information. How important are the number of years of experience and awards of the profs.

Search online for grant proposals/funding news with the names of the Professors who chair the labs. If the students working in these labs have aid, and no issues with aid continuity, that is also a good sign - and this is something you can directly ask the students.

Students from both of these schools have said that the professor with whom they are working (both concentrated on Computer Vision) are very good.
At univ. of Florida there is lot of research going on in Computer Vision.
While at UMC, the lab that I am interested in is listed by NASA for robotics, also the professor there is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. He also has a course plan specifically designed for specialization in Vision, listed on his website.

BTW,you suggested to find out how well funded the groups are, how do I find this information coz I cannot find much info. about this on website.Also, if you like, I can post the links of the labs which are concerned with Vision, so that you can have a look and give your opinion.

Can you detail what they say? Are the favorable views about the research quality, interactions, Professor attitudes, research groups - the dynamics and their success, employability, etc.

To be honest, the only school that I have a fair opinion about in Florida is UFL, Gainsville and in Missouri, Roulla.

However, you should never rely on one person's opinion. Assuming time is on your side, dig deeper. Find out as much as you can about the schools. How about contacting some non-Indian graduate students to see if they share the same view?

Since you mentioned PhD, have you tried to look at how well funded the groups are, the research quality, journal mentions etc?

I know I sound tedious, but I would say you are looking at at least 2 if not 3 schools that are on an almost even keel.

I have contacted students from Indian subcontinent who are studying at UCF and UMC. Students from both these univ's have only good things to say about them.
Can you give me some idea about the over all reputation of both these schools?

Rutgers does not seem to be the best for Computer Vision among the 3 schools. It has only 1 PhD student in the Vision related lab, moreover there are only 2 profs for Vision. I have a friend there and he told that many times the courses related to Vision gets cancelled there (it happened to him) due to less students enrolling. So in terms of repute it seems to be the best but not so good for research.

People I have consulted, have suggested that Rutgers is good if I want to do the course for getting a job afterwards, but I am more interested in learning through research than job, so it does not look my best bet.

The other two(UMC and UCF) are pretty good in terms of research for Vision.

Of your list, Rutgers is the better choice in terms of repute. You would do better to go there, IMO. Do see if the other two schools have any other factors that make them better for Vision and Imaging.

I have received accepts from the following universities for Master's in ECE for fall 2012:

1. Rutgers2. Univ. of Missouri, Columbia
3. Univ. of Central Florida

I want go for a thesis based course and do research and specialization in Computer Vision/ Robot Vision/Image processing. I would also want to convert to a PhD if I find a good professor and research to work on.

Sorry, I just saw this. I don't think poor academics = application to low ranked schools. In any case, some of those schools you suggest are not going to add much value to your career goals at all. This is why I am not recommending most of the schools. Please do a deeper dive and get back to me. Also, focus on public schools, as opposed to schools like USC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have shortlisted all these universities coz they are good in Image Processing/computer vision which is my specialization area. Moreover coz of my poor acads ( just 56%) and not so high GRE score (1260), I think I cannot get higher ranked university, though I have 15 months of work ex. in the same field.
What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have some ques: 1.)In the univ. where it is allowed to take a certain no. of courses (may be 1 or 2) outside dept., will the credits of such courses count?
2.) Can you please throw some light on my prospects of getting admit in the listed universities.
3.) Can you give me some information on Canadian Universities, if not any such good group like gre-success where I can ask my queries?

This is a rather long list. You will be able to take courses elsewhere, but certain schools are strict about what coursework will be considered towards graduation. It would be advised that you contact the specific schools about this requirement. Dig in for comments:

I have shortlisted some universities for Master's application. Would like your precious comments on them. Just to remind, I have completed my engineering in Electronics and Telecommunication
from Pune University. I am looking for Master's prospects emphasizing
research in Image processing and Computer Vision.My credentials:GRE: 1270Acads: BE(E&TC) 56% aggregateTOEFL: 105Work Ex: 1 year(3 projects) in Image processing.

As many of the universities have CV and IP courses in Computer Science
dept and I am an E&TC engineer, is it possible that I take admission
for Master's in ECE department and take a couple of courses in Computer
Engineering and Science department that would add in my prescribed
credit hours. I do not want to join as Master's in Computer Science
department, as that would require me to take some extra courses.

I am considering the following universities with respect to my specialization. Please add your comments about the univ. and my prospects of getting admission in them.

1. University of Texas, Arlington.2. Texas Tech University.3. Rochester Institute of technology.4. Florida State University.5. Portland State university

I would take out 2, 4 and 5 unless they have specific courses not offered elsewhere.

6. Oklahoma State university.7. Univ. Of South Florida8. Univ. Of Missouri, Columbia

I am not sure of any of the above.

9. Univ. Of North Carolina, Charlotte10. Univ of Houston11. Utah State Univ.12 Polytechnic Institute of New York.
13. Univ of California, Riverside14. University of Illinois, Chicago

Of these, 9, 13 and 14 are the only ones I would consider. UC Riverside is expensive, as are all UCs, so be sure you are applying for the value.

Re: (GRE Success! ) Select a Univ. from admits

Thanks for reply.I'll dig up some more about these univ. coz I am really impressed about the work done in UMC lab. I have one question:As you have seen there are a lot of students in UCF's lab, can it in fact earn it negative points on it, instead of positive? Just a thought,
And most of them are PhD students and only 1 MS. So I was wondering?

All other things being equal, the lab in UCF has more researchers and is more prominent. U. Miss has the NASA connections, and is also compelling, but is more remotely situated. In terms of grad student life, the ability to find employment etc., I would pick Florida.

I did a search on the professors on CiteSeer and also looked through there publications. Please find my observations below (Sorry, if it seems very lengthy):

University of Central Florida:There are 4 profs related to Vision who are members of 2 vision related labs. Of these 4,profile of 2 looks very interesting. They are:

1. Dr Mubarak Shah: He is the head of Computer Vision lab. Has written some books and many journals on Computer Vision. Shows 198 results when searched on CITESEER. Has received several awards for best prof. etc and an award for bringing most funding to UCF. Is associated with UCF since 1986. On his CV it is written that 'According to Google the CV lab at UCF is the most visited Computer Vision lab in the world'. His CV alone with all the publications has 63 pages.
Has guided 14 PhD students and has 19Phd students right now. But only 1 MS student listed on website.

2. Dr Hassan Forroosh: He is the head of Computer Imaging Lab. Various related publications are listed on his website, from 1994 to present. Dr. Foroosh is a senior member of IEEE, and was an Associate Editor of the IEEE Transactions on Image Processing in 2003-2008. In 2004, he was a recipient of an academic excellence award from Sun MicroSystems, and the Pierro Zamperoni award from the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). He also received the Best Scientific Paper Award in the International Conference on Pattern Recognition of IAPR. His research has been sponsored by NASA, NSF, ONR, FPCE, and industry (as written on his website). A search on cite seer resulted in 13 results. Prior to UCF he was research scientist at UCB and UMDCP. Has done his PhD from France.

3. Niels da Vitoria Lobo: Has 3 patents on his name.

4. Marshall Tappen: Has done PhD from MIT. Has many publications listed. But said he does not advise grad students currently.

Research and publications of 1 and 2 are in line with the research I wish to pursue.

University of Missouri, Columbia:

1. Dr Guilherme de souza: Director of Vision Guided Intelligent Robotics Lab. This lab is listed by NASA for robotics. Has told that he will be happy to consider me as a grad student under him, though he cannot guarantee funding right now. He also insists that student choose the research topics they are interested in, rather than he giving a research topic. Has published many papers on Robotic Vision and co-authored 3 books on Robotic Vision along with many journals. Search on CiteSeer resulted in 21 results with all the publication very interesting. His research excites me the most. Has done PhD from Purdue Univ.
Has received the following awards.2004 Outstanding Advisor of the Year Nominee from the Office of the Dean of Students at Purdue University.
1998 Maria Canto Neuberger Memorial Research Award from
the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1997 Honeywell Teaching Award from the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1996 NSF Grant to participate in the US/Japan Student Forum in Robotics.
1996-1999 PhD. Fellowship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.
1993 Scholarship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.

Srihari,1. If I consider research than Prof 1 and 2 of UCF seems equally good to me to Prof. 1 of UMC.
2. Prof1 and prof. 2 of UCF professors looks to be very experienced and there are in all 4 profs for Vision there. 3. Though Professor DeSouza at UMC is not as experienced as UCF profs(in terms of years of teaching), he has an added advantage of research in Robotic Vision(which is my precise choice), he also is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. I have also received a reply form him, that he will consider me for research in his lab(no financial assistance right now). He also has a course plan designed just for Robotic Vision specialization.
4. Though I am not considering it as a deciding factor, studying at UMC is cheaper in comparison to UCF. Is'nt it?

Thanks a lot for this long reading. Now,What would you suggest, after looking at the above information. How important are the number of years of experience and awards of the profs.

Search online for grant proposals/funding news with the names of the Professors who chair the labs. If the students working in these labs have aid, and no issues with aid continuity, that is also a good sign - and this is something you can directly ask the students.

Students from both of these schools have said that the professor with whom they are working (both concentrated on Computer Vision) are very good.
At univ. of Florida there is lot of research going on in Computer Vision.
While at UMC, the lab that I am interested in is listed by NASA for robotics, also the professor there is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. He also has a course plan specifically designed for specialization in Vision, listed on his website.

BTW,you suggested to find out how well funded the groups are, how do I find this information coz I cannot find much info. about this on website.Also, if you like, I can post the links of the labs which are concerned with Vision, so that you can have a look and give your opinion.

Can you detail what they say? Are the favorable views about the research quality, interactions, Professor attitudes, research groups - the dynamics and their success, employability, etc.

To be honest, the only school that I have a fair opinion about in Florida is UFL, Gainsville and in Missouri, Roulla.

However, you should never rely on one person's opinion. Assuming time is on your side, dig deeper. Find out as much as you can about the schools. How about contacting some non-Indian graduate students to see if they share the same view?

Since you mentioned PhD, have you tried to look at how well funded the groups are, the research quality, journal mentions etc?

I know I sound tedious, but I would say you are looking at at least 2 if not 3 schools that are on an almost even keel.

I have contacted students from Indian subcontinent who are studying at UCF and UMC. Students from both these univ's have only good things to say about them.
Can you give me some idea about the over all reputation of both these schools?

Rutgers does not seem to be the best for Computer Vision among the 3 schools. It has only 1 PhD student in the Vision related lab, moreover there are only 2 profs for Vision. I have a friend there and he told that many times the courses related to Vision gets cancelled there (it happened to him) due to less students enrolling. So in terms of repute it seems to be the best but not so good for research.

People I have consulted, have suggested that Rutgers is good if I want to do the course for getting a job afterwards, but I am more interested in learning through research than job, so it does not look my best bet.

The other two(UMC and UCF) are pretty good in terms of research for Vision.

Of your list, Rutgers is the better choice in terms of repute. You would do better to go there, IMO. Do see if the other two schools have any other factors that make them better for Vision and Imaging.

I have received accepts from the following universities for Master's in ECE for fall 2012:

1. Rutgers2. Univ. of Missouri, Columbia
3. Univ. of Central Florida

I want go for a thesis based course and do research and specialization in Computer Vision/ Robot Vision/Image processing. I would also want to convert to a PhD if I find a good professor and research to work on.

Sorry, I just saw this. I don't think poor academics = application to low ranked schools. In any case, some of those schools you suggest are not going to add much value to your career goals at all. This is why I am not recommending most of the schools. Please do a deeper dive and get back to me. Also, focus on public schools, as opposed to schools like USC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have shortlisted all these universities coz they are good in Image Processing/computer vision which is my specialization area. Moreover coz of my poor acads ( just 56%) and not so high GRE score (1260), I think I cannot get higher ranked university, though I have 15 months of work ex. in the same field.
What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have some ques: 1.)In the univ. where it is allowed to take a certain no. of courses (may be 1 or 2) outside dept., will the credits of such courses count?
2.) Can you please throw some light on my prospects of getting admit in the listed universities.
3.) Can you give me some information on Canadian Universities, if not any such good group like gre-success where I can ask my queries?

This is a rather long list. You will be able to take courses elsewhere, but certain schools are strict about what coursework will be considered towards graduation. It would be advised that you contact the specific schools about this requirement. Dig in for comments:

Hello there,I have shortlisted some universities for Master's application. Would like your precious comments on them. Just to remind, I have completed my engineering in Electronics and Telecommunication
from Pune University. I am looking for Master's prospects emphasizing
research in Image processing and Computer Vision.My credentials:GRE: 1270Acads: BE(E&TC) 56% aggregateTOEFL: 105Work Ex: 1 year(3 projects) in Image processing.

As many of the universities have CV and IP courses in Computer Science
dept and I am an E&TC engineer, is it possible that I take admission
for Master's in ECE department and take a couple of courses in Computer
Engineering and Science department that would add in my prescribed
credit hours. I do not want to join as Master's in Computer Science
department, as that would require me to take some extra courses.

I am considering the following universities with respect to my specialization. Please add your comments about the univ. and my prospects of getting admission in them.

1. University of Texas, Arlington.2. Texas Tech University.3. Rochester Institute of technology.4. Florida State University.5. Portland State university

I would take out 2, 4 and 5 unless they have specific courses not offered elsewhere.

6. Oklahoma State university.7. Univ. Of South Florida8. Univ. Of Missouri, Columbia

I am not sure of any of the above.

9. Univ. Of North Carolina, Charlotte10. Univ of Houston11. Utah State Univ.12 Polytechnic Institute of New York.
13. Univ of California, Riverside14. University of Illinois, Chicago

Of these, 9, 13 and 14 are the only ones I would consider. UC Riverside is expensive, as are all UCs, so be sure you are applying for the value.

Re: (GRE Success! ) Select a Univ. from admits

At this stage, make a more concerted effort to talk directly to Professors in the labs in terms of what it takes to find funding. This responsiveness is another criterion on which you need to scan the schools.

There can be an advantage or a disadvantage to the number of students.

On the positive side, it means there are several students, well funded.

On the negative side, it could mean the funds have been used up. You should find out what the reality is.

Unless the school offers a thesis based MS, it is typical that certain labs will not employ MS students. This is rare. MS students, especially non-thesis ones that want to stack on lab based

work ex- or look for PhD opportunities are basically "free labor" and are typically assigned grunge tasks. They may also be skip the 15 MS students, if they have like 20 PhDs...its not a roll call

- it is just a way to impress grant agencies and such to show off how many PhDs you have in your lab.

All of this will start making sense once you enter academia - a stadium with man eating tigers vs. bleeding men might seem more placid, compared to how labs have to fight and scavenge for money :)

Thanks for reply.I'll dig up some more about these univ. coz I am really impressed about the work done in UMC lab. I have one question:
As you have seen there are a lot of students in UCF's lab, can it in fact earn it negative points on it, instead of positive? Just a thought,
And most of them are PhD students and only 1 MS. So I was wondering?

All other things being equal, the lab in UCF has more researchers and is more prominent. U. Miss has the NASA connections, and is also compelling, but is more remotely situated. In terms of grad student life, the ability to find employment etc., I would pick Florida.

I did a search on the professors on CiteSeer and also looked through there publications. Please find my observations below (Sorry, if it seems very lengthy):

University of Central Florida:There are 4 profs related to Vision who are members of 2 vision related labs. Of these 4,profile of 2 looks very interesting. They are:

1. Dr Mubarak Shah: He is the head of Computer Vision lab. Has written some books and many journals on Computer Vision. Shows 198 results when searched on CITESEER. Has received several awards for best prof. etc and an award for bringing most funding to UCF. Is associated with UCF since 1986. On his CV it is written that 'According to Google the CV lab at UCF is the most visited Computer Vision lab in the world'. His CV alone with all the publications has 63 pages.
Has guided 14 PhD students and has 19Phd students right now. But only 1 MS student listed on website.

2. Dr Hassan Forroosh: He is the head of Computer Imaging Lab. Various related publications are listed on his website, from 1994 to present. Dr. Foroosh is a senior member of IEEE, and was an Associate Editor of the IEEE Transactions on Image Processing in 2003-2008. In 2004, he was a recipient of an academic excellence award from Sun MicroSystems, and the Pierro Zamperoni award from the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). He also received the Best Scientific Paper Award in the International Conference on Pattern Recognition of IAPR. His research has been sponsored by NASA, NSF, ONR, FPCE, and industry (as written on his website). A search on cite seer resulted in 13 results. Prior to UCF he was research scientist at UCB and UMDCP. Has done his PhD from France.

3. Niels da Vitoria Lobo: Has 3 patents on his name.

4. Marshall Tappen: Has done PhD from MIT. Has many publications listed. But said he does not advise grad students currently.

Research and publications of 1 and 2 are in line with the research I wish to pursue.

University of Missouri, Columbia:

1. Dr Guilherme de souza: Director of Vision Guided Intelligent Robotics Lab. This lab is listed by NASA for robotics. Has told that he will be happy to consider me as a grad student under him, though he cannot guarantee funding right now. He also insists that student choose the research topics they are interested in, rather than he giving a research topic. Has published many papers on Robotic Vision and co-authored 3 books on Robotic Vision along with many journals. Search on CiteSeer resulted in 21 results with all the publication very interesting. His research excites me the most. Has done PhD from Purdue Univ.
Has received the following awards.2004 Outstanding Advisor of the Year Nominee from the Office of the Dean of Students at Purdue University.
1998 Maria Canto Neuberger Memorial Research Award from
the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1997 Honeywell Teaching Award from the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1996 NSF Grant to participate in the US/Japan Student Forum in Robotics.
1996-1999 PhD. Fellowship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.
1993 Scholarship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.

Srihari,1. If I consider research than Prof 1 and 2 of UCF seems equally good to me to Prof. 1 of UMC.
2. Prof1 and prof. 2 of UCF professors looks to be very experienced and there are in all 4 profs for Vision there. 3. Though Professor DeSouza at UMC is not as experienced as UCF profs(in terms of years of teaching), he has an added advantage of research in Robotic Vision(which is my precise choice), he also is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. I have also received a reply form him, that he will consider me for research in his lab(no financial assistance right now). He also has a course plan designed just for Robotic Vision specialization.
4. Though I am not considering it as a deciding factor, studying at UMC is cheaper in comparison to UCF. Is'nt it?

Thanks a lot for this long reading. Now,What would you suggest, after looking at the above information. How important are the number of years of experience and awards of the profs.

Search online for grant proposals/funding news with the names of the Professors who chair the labs. If the students working in these labs have aid, and no issues with aid continuity, that is also a good sign - and this is something you can directly ask the students.

Students from both of these schools have said that the professor with whom they are working (both concentrated on Computer Vision) are very good.
At univ. of Florida there is lot of research going on in Computer Vision.
While at UMC, the lab that I am interested in is listed by NASA for robotics, also the professor there is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. He also has a course plan specifically designed for specialization in Vision, listed on his website.

BTW,you suggested to find out how well funded the groups are, how do I find this information coz I cannot find much info. about this on website.Also, if you like, I can post the links of the labs which are concerned with Vision, so that you can have a look and give your opinion.

Can you detail what they say? Are the favorable views about the research quality, interactions, Professor attitudes, research groups - the dynamics and their success, employability, etc.

To be honest, the only school that I have a fair opinion about in Florida is UFL, Gainsville and in Missouri, Roulla.

However, you should never rely on one person's opinion. Assuming time is on your side, dig deeper. Find out as much as you can about the schools. How about contacting some non-Indian graduate students to see if they share the same view?

Since you mentioned PhD, have you tried to look at how well funded the groups are, the research quality, journal mentions etc?

I know I sound tedious, but I would say you are looking at at least 2 if not 3 schools that are on an almost even keel.

I have contacted students from Indian subcontinent who are studying at UCF and UMC. Students from both these univ's have only good things to say about them.
Can you give me some idea about the over all reputation of both these schools?

Rutgers does not seem to be the best for Computer Vision among the 3 schools. It has only 1 PhD student in the Vision related lab, moreover there are only 2 profs for Vision. I have a friend there and he told that many times the courses related to Vision gets cancelled there (it happened to him) due to less students enrolling. So in terms of repute it seems to be the best but not so good for research.

People I have consulted, have suggested that Rutgers is good if I want to do the course for getting a job afterwards, but I am more interested in learning through research than job, so it does not look my best bet.

The other two(UMC and UCF) are pretty good in terms of research for Vision.

Of your list, Rutgers is the better choice in terms of repute. You would do better to go there, IMO. Do see if the other two schools have any other factors that make them better for Vision and Imaging.

I have received accepts from the following universities for Master's in ECE for fall 2012:

1. Rutgers2. Univ. of Missouri, Columbia
3. Univ. of Central Florida

I want go for a thesis based course and do research and specialization in Computer Vision/ Robot Vision/Image processing. I would also want to convert to a PhD if I find a good professor and research to work on.

Sorry, I just saw this. I don't think poor academics = application to low ranked schools. In any case, some of those schools you suggest are not going to add much value to your career goals at all. This is why I am not recommending most of the schools. Please do a deeper dive and get back to me. Also, focus on public schools, as opposed to schools like USC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have shortlisted all these universities coz they are good in Image Processing/computer vision which is my specialization area. Moreover coz of my poor acads ( just 56%) and not so high GRE score (1260), I think I cannot get higher ranked university, though I have 15 months of work ex. in the same field.
What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have some ques: 1.)In the univ. where it is allowed to take a certain no. of courses (may be 1 or 2) outside dept., will the credits of such courses count?
2.) Can you please throw some light on my prospects of getting admit in the listed universities.
3.) Can you give me some information on Canadian Universities, if not any such good group like gre-success where I can ask my queries?

This is a rather long list. You will be able to take courses elsewhere, but certain schools are strict about what coursework will be considered towards graduation. It would be advised that you contact the specific schools about this requirement. Dig in for comments:

Hello there,I have shortlisted some universities for Master's application. Would like your precious comments on them. Just to remind, I have completed my engineering in Electronics and Telecommunication
from Pune University. I am looking for Master's prospects emphasizing
research in Image processing and Computer Vision.My credentials:GRE: 1270Acads: BE(E&TC) 56% aggregateTOEFL: 105Work Ex: 1 year(3 projects) in Image processing.

As many of the universities have CV and IP courses in Computer Science
dept and I am an E&TC engineer, is it possible that I take admission
for Master's in ECE department and take a couple of courses in Computer
Engineering and Science department that would add in my prescribed
credit hours. I do not want to join as Master's in Computer Science
department, as that would require me to take some extra courses.

I am considering the following universities with respect to my specialization. Please add your comments about the univ. and my prospects of getting admission in them.

1. University of Texas, Arlington.2. Texas Tech University.3. Rochester Institute of technology.4. Florida State University.5. Portland State university

I would take out 2, 4 and 5 unless they have specific courses not offered elsewhere.

6. Oklahoma State university.7. Univ. Of South Florida8. Univ. Of Missouri, Columbia

I am not sure of any of the above.

9. Univ. Of North Carolina, Charlotte10. Univ of Houston11. Utah State Univ.12 Polytechnic Institute of New York.
13. Univ of California, Riverside14. University of Illinois, Chicago

Of these, 9, 13 and 14 are the only ones I would consider. UC Riverside is expensive, as are all UCs, so be sure you are applying for the value.

At this stage, make a more concerted effort to talk directly to Professors in the labs in terms of what it takes to find funding. This responsiveness is another criterion on which you need to scan the schools.

There can be an advantage or a disadvantage to the number of students.

On the positive side, it means there are several students, well funded.

On the negative side, it could mean the funds have been used up. You should find out what the reality is.

Unless the school offers a thesis based MS, it is typical that certain labs will not employ MS students. This is rare. MS students, especially non-thesis ones that want to stack on lab based

work ex- or look for PhD opportunities are basically "free labor" and are typically assigned grunge tasks. They may also be skip the 15 MS students, if they have like 20 PhDs...its not a roll call

- it is just a way to impress grant agencies and such to show off how many PhDs you have in your lab.

All of this will start making sense once you enter academia - a stadium with man eating tigers vs. bleeding men might seem more placid, compared to how labs have to fight and scavenge for money :)

Thanks for reply.I'll dig up some more about these univ. coz I am really impressed about the work done in UMC lab. I have one question:
As you have seen there are a lot of students in UCF's lab, can it in fact earn it negative points on it, instead of positive? Just a thought,
And most of them are PhD students and only 1 MS. So I was wondering?

All other things being equal, the lab in UCF has more researchers and is more prominent. U. Miss has the NASA connections, and is also compelling, but is more remotely situated. In terms of grad student life, the ability to find employment etc., I would pick Florida.

I did a search on the professors on CiteSeer and also looked through there publications. Please find my observations below (Sorry, if it seems very lengthy):

University of Central Florida:There are 4 profs related to Vision who are members of 2 vision related labs. Of these 4,profile of 2 looks very interesting. They are:

1. Dr Mubarak Shah: He is the head of Computer Vision lab. Has written some books and many journals on Computer Vision. Shows 198 results when searched on CITESEER. Has received several awards for best prof. etc and an award for bringing most funding to UCF. Is associated with UCF since 1986. On his CV it is written that 'According to Google the CV lab at UCF is the most visited Computer Vision lab in the world'. His CV alone with all the publications has 63 pages.
Has guided 14 PhD students and has 19Phd students right now. But only 1 MS student listed on website.

2. Dr Hassan Forroosh: He is the head of Computer Imaging Lab. Various related publications are listed on his website, from 1994 to present. Dr. Foroosh is a senior member of IEEE, and was an Associate Editor of the IEEE Transactions on Image Processing in 2003-2008. In 2004, he was a recipient of an academic excellence award from Sun MicroSystems, and the Pierro Zamperoni award from the International Association for Pattern Recognition (IAPR). He also received the Best Scientific Paper Award in the International Conference on Pattern Recognition of IAPR. His research has been sponsored by NASA, NSF, ONR, FPCE, and industry (as written on his website). A search on cite seer resulted in 13 results. Prior to UCF he was research scientist at UCB and UMDCP. Has done his PhD from France.

3. Niels da Vitoria Lobo: Has 3 patents on his name.

4. Marshall Tappen: Has done PhD from MIT. Has many publications listed. But said he does not advise grad students currently.

Research and publications of 1 and 2 are in line with the research I wish to pursue.

University of Missouri, Columbia:

1. Dr Guilherme de souza: Director of Vision Guided Intelligent Robotics Lab. This lab is listed by NASA for robotics. Has told that he will be happy to consider me as a grad student under him, though he cannot guarantee funding right now. He also insists that student choose the research topics they are interested in, rather than he giving a research topic. Has published many papers on Robotic Vision and co-authored 3 books on Robotic Vision along with many journals. Search on CiteSeer resulted in 21 results with all the publication very interesting. His research excites me the most. Has done PhD from Purdue Univ.
Has received the following awards.2004 Outstanding Advisor of the Year Nominee from the Office of the Dean of Students at Purdue University.
1998 Maria Canto Neuberger Memorial Research Award from
the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1997 Honeywell Teaching Award from the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at Purdue University.
1996 NSF Grant to participate in the US/Japan Student Forum in Robotics.
1996-1999 PhD. Fellowship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.
1993 Scholarship, Brazilian Research Council, CNPq.

Srihari,1. If I consider research than Prof 1 and 2 of UCF seems equally good to me to Prof. 1 of UMC.
2. Prof1 and prof. 2 of UCF professors looks to be very experienced and there are in all 4 profs for Vision there. 3. Though Professor DeSouza at UMC is not as experienced as UCF profs(in terms of years of teaching), he has an added advantage of research in Robotic Vision(which is my precise choice), he also is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. I have also received a reply form him, that he will consider me for research in his lab(no financial assistance right now). He also has a course plan designed just for Robotic Vision specialization.
4. Though I am not considering it as a deciding factor, studying at UMC is cheaper in comparison to UCF. Is'nt it?

Thanks a lot for this long reading. Now,What would you suggest, after looking at the above information. How important are the number of years of experience and awards of the profs.

Search online for grant proposals/funding news with the names of the Professors who chair the labs. If the students working in these labs have aid, and no issues with aid continuity, that is also a good sign - and this is something you can directly ask the students.

Students from both of these schools have said that the professor with whom they are working (both concentrated on Computer Vision) are very good.
At univ. of Florida there is lot of research going on in Computer Vision.
While at UMC, the lab that I am interested in is listed by NASA for robotics, also the professor there is very flexible in terms of choosing research topic. He also has a course plan specifically designed for specialization in Vision, listed on his website.

BTW,you suggested to find out how well funded the groups are, how do I find this information coz I cannot find much info. about this on website.Also, if you like, I can post the links of the labs which are concerned with Vision, so that you can have a look and give your opinion.

Can you detail what they say? Are the favorable views about the research quality, interactions, Professor attitudes, research groups - the dynamics and their success, employability, etc.

To be honest, the only school that I have a fair opinion about in Florida is UFL, Gainsville and in Missouri, Roulla.

However, you should never rely on one person's opinion. Assuming time is on your side, dig deeper. Find out as much as you can about the schools. How about contacting some non-Indian graduate students to see if they share the same view?

Since you mentioned PhD, have you tried to look at how well funded the groups are, the research quality, journal mentions etc?

I know I sound tedious, but I would say you are looking at at least 2 if not 3 schools that are on an almost even keel.

I have contacted students from Indian subcontinent who are studying at UCF and UMC. Students from both these univ's have only good things to say about them.
Can you give me some idea about the over all reputation of both these schools?

Rutgers does not seem to be the best for Computer Vision among the 3 schools. It has only 1 PhD student in the Vision related lab, moreover there are only 2 profs for Vision. I have a friend there and he told that many times the courses related to Vision gets cancelled there (it happened to him) due to less students enrolling. So in terms of repute it seems to be the best but not so good for research.

People I have consulted, have suggested that Rutgers is good if I want to do the course for getting a job afterwards, but I am more interested in learning through research than job, so it does not look my best bet.

The other two(UMC and UCF) are pretty good in terms of research for Vision.

Of your list, Rutgers is the better choice in terms of repute. You would do better to go there, IMO. Do see if the other two schools have any other factors that make them better for Vision and Imaging.

I have received accepts from the following universities for Master's in ECE for fall 2012:

1. Rutgers2. Univ. of Missouri, Columbia
3. Univ. of Central Florida

I want go for a thesis based course and do research and specialization in Computer Vision/ Robot Vision/Image processing. I would also want to convert to a PhD if I find a good professor and research to work on.

Sorry, I just saw this. I don't think poor academics = application to low ranked schools. In any case, some of those schools you suggest are not going to add much value to your career goals at all. This is why I am not recommending most of the schools. Please do a deeper dive and get back to me. Also, focus on public schools, as opposed to schools like USC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have shortlisted all these universities coz they are good in Image Processing/computer vision which is my specialization area. Moreover coz of my poor acads ( just 56%) and not so high GRE score (1260), I think I cannot get higher ranked university, though I have 15 months of work ex. in the same field.
What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks a lot for your comments. I have some ques: 1.)In the univ. where it is allowed to take a certain no. of courses (may be 1 or 2) outside dept., will the credits of such courses count?
2.) Can you please throw some light on my prospects of getting admit in the listed universities.
3.) Can you give me some information on Canadian Universities, if not any such good group like gre-success where I can ask my queries?

Akshay,This is a rather long list. You will be able to take courses elsewhere, but certain schools are strict about what coursework will be considered towards graduation. It would be advised that you contact the specific schools about this requirement. Dig in for comments:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Akshay Jain <akshayj1987-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hello there,I have shortlisted some universities for Master's application. Would like your precious comments on them. Just to remind, I have completed my engineering in Electronics and Telecommunication
from Pune University. I am looking for Master's prospects emphasizing
research in Image processing and Computer Vision.My credentials:GRE: 1270Acads: BE(E&TC) 56% aggregateTOEFL: 105Work Ex: 1 year(3 projects) in Image processing.
As many of the universities have CV and IP courses in Computer Science
dept and I am an E&TC engineer, is it possible that I take admission
for Master's in ECE department and take a couple of courses in Computer
Engineering and Science department that would add in my prescribed
credit hours. I do not want to join as Master's in Computer Science
department, as that would require me to take some extra courses.I am considering the following universities with respect to my specialization. Please add your comments about the univ. and my prospects of getting admission in them.
1. University of Texas, Arlington.2. Texas Tech University.3. Rochester Institute of technology.4. Florida State University.5. Portland State university
I would take out 2, 4 and 5 unless they have specific courses not offered elsewhere.
6. Oklahoma State university.7. Univ. Of South Florida8. Univ. Of Missouri, ColumbiaI am not sure of any of the above.
9. Univ. Of North Carolina, Charlotte10. Univ of Houston11. Utah State Univ.12 Polytechnic Institute of New York.
13. Univ of California, Riverside14. University of Illinois, ChicagoOf these, 9, 13 and 14 are the only ones I would consider. UC Riverside is expensive, as are all UCs, so be sure you are applying for the value.
15. Univ. of Louiseville16. Univ. of Miami17. Univ of Central Florida
18. Rutgers19. RPIRutgers and RPI are the only ones I would consider in this list.
Waiting for your comments
Regards,Akshay Jain.
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Select a Univ. from admits

Akshay and others,
Just a humble suggestion: Please try to remove trailing emails if you are replying. This has been a long conversation and with each reply, reading it is more difficult. Kindly consider.

(GRE Success! ) GRE prep.

I have two questions today..hope i will get reply to both of them.so, here they are.

1. I have given GRE 2 times till now before august 2011(i.e in old pattern)..I got 1050(math-700,verbal -350) first time and 1020(math 660,verbal -360)2nd time..i tried to learn by rote all word lists in barron's and i really did so.I have to agree that i didn't practice well for both the tests and was concentrating only on wordlists. I did decent amount of practice 2nd time but i was scared that i would fail during 2nd time.Well,now i have booked my gre for the 3rd time in may.i.e in new pattern.Do i have to again learn by rote all the word lists for new pattern?because ,its been long since i touched them after my 2nd attempt.And in what areas i should be concentrating more.I don't have any coaching with new pattern and i can't get any coaching as i stay away from home and coaching her
e is highly expensive. I also want to know which books should i follow and will 45 days of preparation be enough for giving the test.

2. A friend of mine doesn't have a yahoo account and wants me to ask this question for him.
He got into Electrical engineering department of University of florida gainesville,Syracus,USC and State university of newyork ,buffalo . he is confused about which one to join in.He also got 6000$ waiver in Syracuse and 12000$ waiver in UF. He got this admits for fall 2012.Kindly advice which univ which would be a better option and how?

(GRE Success! ) PhD Admit in Gatech

Finally got the offer that I was looking for. A PhD admit in Georgia Tech at the ECE Department with full funds as Research Assistantship. I joined the group around 2010 when I was in a data collection mood :) ; truly speaking without the advice of the mentors like Srihari, Sairam and others, I could have not have made this happen. I will not demean the endeavor
just by thanking people, but I promise that I will stay around and help prospective aspirants in any way which I can be useful
of.