If we can keep Derozan when trading for Gay (JJ/Kleiza & #8 and Jose) then I would look at (Houston loses out on PGasol who they wanted for a long time) trading Bargnani to Houston for KLowry. I would really prefer to keep JJ as well(Gay-JJ would be an awesome rotation at SF IMO and options for small ball too). It is unlikely if keeping Derozan though.

If we would have to give up Derozan, and JJ in the trade for Gay we would conceivably get back the 25 and keep Jose. Bargnani still out the door and feed on the NOLA report that they give up their #10 for someone taking Ariza or Okafors contract then an expensive but experienced backup SF (using the Barbosa TPE) with Ariza and the pick to allow us TRoss, JLamb etc.

Demar + Pick + cap relief is WAY TO MUCH for someone who's earning franchise player $$$'s w/o franchise player production. let's remember, Memphis is the one shopping Gay for financial relief, so why bail them out by giving them multiple assets along with cap relief? the most I offer is Demar or ed or pick + Kleiza + Jose....

Demar + Pick + cap relief is WAY TO MUCH for someone who's earning franchise player $$$'s w/o franchise player production. let's remember, Memphis is the one shopping Gay for financial relief, so why bail them out by giving them multiple assets along with cap relief? the most I offer is Demar or ed or pick + Kleiza + Jose....

they wont want jose. they want less salary. but i agree that demar is to much to add.
this pick, 2014s pick, ed and filler is what i like. but none of us get to make the decision. i just hope it isn't stupid if it goes down. we have to pay more for people to come here not trade more.

Itís no secret the Raptors are aggressively shopping for a talent upgrade at guard or small forward.

Memphis small forward Rudy Gay and Philadelphia swingman Andre Iguodala have long topped the wish list of the club and ESPN put fuel on the fire on Wednesday by reiterating as much.

However, according to sources, the report that the Raptors have been trying to package a young player like Ed Davis with the No. 8 selection and a veteran (Jose Calderon or Andrea Bargnani, according to the report) is not entirely accurate.

The Raptors are not inclined to both solve the salary cap problems of a team like Memphis by taking on Gay as well as surrendering that significant a package of assets and have let that be known.

The price would likely have to come down for Toronto to agree to a deal.

Demar + Pick + cap relief is WAY TO MUCH for someone who's earning franchise player $$$'s w/o franchise player production. let's remember, Memphis is the one shopping Gay for financial relief, so why bail them out by giving them multiple assets along with cap relief? the most I offer is Demar or ed or pick + Kleiza + Jose....

The Raptors aren't the only team with Gay on their radar. Our goal isn't to "bail out" Memphis. It's to submit an offer that's better than anyone else's offer.

Regardless of what some people think of Gay's contract, he's still a desireable asset.

The only concern is that another team outbids us in the Gay sweepstakes. Depending on how badly Colangelo covets Gay, he'll have no choice but to up his offer.

Gay's contract is gigantic. I don't think the Raptors should bend over backwards to take that huge deal of the Grizzlies hands. If some team wants to sell the farm to take on that big contract it's better off not being the Raptors. There are other options out there as well.

As for Iguodala, his stats have been declining steadily lately, but I wonder how much of that is a result of the system. With players like Holiday and Williams (and a healthy Brand), there is less of a scoring burdern on Iggy's shoulders these days. Does that mean he can't score anymore....somehow, I doubt that.

Having said that, I'd still think that Gay is the only player I would move the 8th pick for.

Gay's contract is gigantic. I don't think the Raptors should bend over backwards to take that huge deal of the Grizzlies hands. If some team wants to sell the farm to take on that big contract it's better off not being the Raptors. There are other options out there as well.

It is a fat contract, but in the grand scheme of things, 3 years doesn't seem like a commitment we'll regret. Just my opinion.

As for Iguodala, his stats have been declining steadily lately, but I wonder how much of that is a result of the system. With players like Holiday and Williams (and a healthy Brand), there is less of a scoring burdern on Iggy's shoulders these days. Does that mean he can't score anymore....somehow, I doubt that.

Having said that, I'd still think that Gay is the only player I would move the 8th pick for.

I think quite a bit of it has to do with the system (on Iggy). His points are down, but his FG% went up, so he's not becoming less efficient. And for some reason his FT% dropped drastically, which affects his ppg