So younger generations can get a taste of what we had? So these old farts can get out of the house and away from their wives? BTW... Journeys new singer looks young... but he's 45... so not that far off from the band age-wise.

I thought he was in his 20s, but that wasn't my point. The point was that his voice was exactly like the previous singer.

The Genesis story has it's fans pretty divided from the Gabriel and Collins years. When Collins first took the lead after Gabriel's departure he tried hard to keep it Gabriel-inspired for the next few albums, specially on live performances of the earlier material. When I saw them on tour following the Duke album, Collins was singing as himself and not Gabriel.

The Buggles killed the Yes sound with Trevor Horn's vocals. Ray Wilson killed the Genesis sound with his vocals. Sometimes change is not good.

There is this band Marillion that didn't become huge but had a loyal following, and in the 80s had this Gabrielesque singer named Fish. He left and was replaced by the brilliant vocalist Steve Hogarth. The band evolved with a different sound, and it worked and they're still producing intresting new material.

Since we started talking earlier about Yes, I pulled out some of my tour programs from the mindblowing Yes early shows. Roger Dean designed the sets - huge beetle-like shells that lit up and opened to reveal more glowing layers and lasers!

The Genesis story has it's fans pretty divided from the Gabriel and Collins years. When Collins first took the lead after Gabriel's departure he tried hard to keep it Gabriel-inspired for the next few albums, specially on live performances of the earlier material. When I saw them on tour following the Duke album, Collins was singing as himself and not Gabriel.

...much the same as fans who are still dividedbetween Roger Waters & "Pink Floyd" ... yeah...Dave "won" the rights to the name, and the screensetc... but he couldn't write fer shyte. :P

(at least in my slanted opinion) The Roger fanshave little patience for Dave's "Moon, Spoon,June, Swoon" lyrics after clinging to the edgeof your seat listening to Roger "bring the worldto the edge of disaster" time and again. (maybe that's just a wee bit intense for some (?))

Same Same for Gabriel vs Collins...

Collins did a concert.... Gabriel put on a show!Peter Gabriel is more than a writer/singer, he's a performance artist. You don't "see him"you "EXPERIENCE Him" it's almost a religiousexperience, very palpable and emotional, like anyREALLY Good "Old Time Revival Meeting Tent Show"

**I saw both those shows

_________________________."...or am I a butterfly dreaming she's a woman?"

Our experiences with 'progressive' seem to have a whole lot of common ground.

The one tour that got little if any attention in the progressive world was the 1993 David Sylvian & Robert Fripp tour in support of the incredible album "The First Day".

Many of us have seen Crimson live, I saw tours that included Bruford, Levin, and Belew in the double-trio format. "Discipline", "Beat" … "Thrak". But this tour with David Sylvian was unbelievable in power and atmosphere. Fripp played straight out power fuzz and tape-looped ecstasy jam with guitarist Michael Brooks and Trey Gunn on stick … here's "Darshan", the funkiest guitar jam ever in the progressive scene.It' s long, but it is great), and I am so glad to find the tour was filmed:

HEH! You've got me beatall I have is a fist full of ticket stubbs anda lot of great memories...like the time we were almost kilt by a Flying Bed at the end of "On the Run" during the "Momentary Lapse of Reason" concert in Madison Square Garden)

_________________________."...or am I a butterfly dreaming she's a woman?"

...like the time we were almost kilt by a Flying Bed at the end of "On the Run" during the "Momentary Lapse of Reason" concert in Madison Square Garden)

1978 Berkeley Community Theater ( a pretty small venue), Peter Gabriel began the show with the house light up singing some inane lullyby about his teddybear … the lights go down and band begins with "Broadway" … he's singing but nowhere to be seen. Seems he started about in the middle of the place in the crowd, climbing over seats to the stage. Yep, I had his foot planted right on my shoulder. Years later during the So tour it was kinda scary for him to crowd surf (I bet he was one of the first to do that) … I saw him do it two nights in a row at the Forum … the energy was unreal.

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