Hell, if someone does a hammy tomorrow I'd take him to Sri Lanka. Tell him he's had plenty of time for mental recovery and get on that plane.

Nah, as great as Ryder's been in this match, it is only one match. He needs to show that he can play like this consistently for a couple of months, before coming back into the international reckoning. Not just saying this because he's single handedly winning this match for Wellington.

Ouch, after a wicket first ball, Tarun's figures are looking a nightmare. Can't help but feel real sorry for the guy, he desperately needed a match against a lower standard of opposition, and instead runs into Ryder in murderous form. 150 up now, and an outside chance of a double if he hogs the strike.

EDIT: Ryder immediately bashes 20 runs in eight balls to turn an outside chance of a double into a dead cert if he stays until the end.

Last edited by Bahnz; 30-10-2012 at 09:48 PM.

Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed

I can think of a list of Sydney Grade posters who would contribute a better average post than Bahnz.

Argue right or wrong, but we cannot afford to be without him. Then you have to find the right management, support and people around him to make it work.

If he was fit (mentally and physically) then sure, NZ could really do with him. However, as much as he is a good batsman, the last time he was in the side he was clearly not in a good 'headspace', was a major distraction and far more trouble than he was worth. NZC and others can try to put right management, support etc in place, however outsiders can only do so much - ultimately the success or otherwise of Ryder's return will be determined by him and his desires.

In the movie money ball they picked one player who had a party reputation (i think been a while since I saw it), and other teams wouldn't touch that player. All they cared about was whether he could get on base.

Saying this with regards to Ryder obvs.

Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed

I got great enjoyment in going to the game and shouting "WHY THE **** ISN'T THIS GAME BEING PLAYED AT THE BASIN?!>!?!?" to reasonably significant cheers from the sparse crowd

Proudly against the bring back Bennett movement since he is injury prone and won't last 5 days.

In the movie money ball they picked one player who had a party reputation (i think been a while since I saw it), and other teams wouldn't touch that player. All they cared about was whether he could get on base.

Saying this with regards to Ryder obvs.

Jeremy Giambi was the bloke. And yeah all they cared about was performance, though they ended up trading him because he didn't perform.

I think with Ryder the issue is that his off field stuff was actually having an impact on how he performed. I don't think it's unreasonable that we'd wanna get the best out of a bloke like Ryder - he really could be the best batsman in our team.

Ryder - such a good player. Still, not exactly great signs from Wellington as a unit, even if they did get the win on the board. Not bowling out CD even once isn't a great sign.

Not that I won't take the win, mind!

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If he was fit (mentally and physically) then sure, NZ could really do with him. However, as much as he is a good batsman, the last time he was in the side he was clearly not in a good 'headspace', was a major distraction and far more trouble than he was worth. NZC and others can try to put right management, support etc in place, however outsiders can only do so much - ultimately the success or otherwise of Ryder's return will be determined by him and his desires.

Absolutely it will be determined by him. I don't know what head space he's in at the moment so it's hard to say..but I don't know what 3 more months of first-class will achieve apart from inch Wellington closer to more expectancy and heartbreak and boost his runs tally. Maybe Sri Lanka is overcooking it but he needs to go to SA if his form continues.

Absolutely it will be determined by him. I don't know what head space he's in at the moment so it's hard to say..but I don't know what 3 more months of first-class will achieve apart from inch Wellington closer to more expectancy and heartbreak and boost his runs tally. Maybe Sri Lanka is overcooking it but he needs to go to SA if his form continues.