Kommentar von Ch0p

Kommentar von aybabtu

a) don't hit earth spirits if you want motes of air ;)b) this is a superb item - total +d/h for the set is 67!

to compare set items that have a bonus with "normal" items that do not, i take a proportion of the bonus and add it to the item's stats. in this case, we have a ring that has 29+7 dmg and a neck that has 23+7. there is only one neck that beats that +dmg, and only 2 rings.

amusingly, all three of these items are pre TBC! consequently, if you're all about the dmg bonus, these are about the best jewellery you can hope to obtain in the game.

NB, i'm not afraid of flaming - this isn't thottbot, after all - but i am aware that i have not given word to the other stats. as a disclaimer, i *did* mention that this set is all about the +dmg :)

Kommentar von Sathy

Oh yea, look at that, a devil in disguise, also called a typo. I did mean Air spirit but thanks for pointing out.

Kommentar von Renshank

For Shadow Priests (like myself) and Warlocks, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30666 (Rittsyn's Lost Pendant) has much higher +Shadow damage than the neckpeice aspect of the set, so while your comment is true for most casters for now, we can hope that in the near future other casting classes will get something like the Lost Pendant for their damage type as well.

The Item I refer to drops off of trash in Karazhan.

Kommentar von mjmorrell

Bought this for 900g last night on alliance arygos. Great ring

-Lerty

Kommentar von dingleberry

Another thing to consider with this set is also the amount of int and spirit and the impact it has on you based on your taent build and other gear.

I am a Arcane / Fire mage with full points in Mind Mastery. This gives me 25% of my total intellect as +dmg to all. In addition, I have full spellfire which gives me 7% of my intellect as +dmg to all. So all things considered, this set nets me:

(33int * 0.25) + (33int * .07) + 67 = 77.56 dmg

The previous ring / neck combo I was using had high +dmg, very close to this, but effectively had 25 dmg less due to the lack of the set bonus and lack of intellect.

Also, since most DPS gear is high on int and stam and has little to no spirit, the added spirit on this set helps my evocation fill my bar that much more... Which really helps in a crunch.

Kommentar von Siljon

Just dropped for us in Black morras!

Kommentar von gnardal

dropped yesterday from a trash mob in karazhan before midnight

Kommentar von sjaakiewarrior

Dropped in Black Morass at a normal boss there ;)

Kommentar von beretta

Have seen this go for as low as 150g thru the trade channel.Not sure what servers it goes for 1000.... I presume that might have been the price way back before Kara was on farm by every guild in the game.

Kommentar von Dynnrad

This ring drops from a Shadowmoon Chosen (http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22084) also. I posted this ring in AH, and set a 1000g buyout. Sold in 10 minutes. Realm: Hellfire.

Kommentar von mursaat

Well i know in what realm it goes for 1000g, in trollbane:( ring is very expensive here, also pendant goes for 1700g ..

Kommentar von Avire

Do not quote me on this I could be wrong here.

most of the time when we pick certain gear we pick them for certain reasons such as i.e. pvp, pve, and now arena. The argument I notice about why a Shadowpriest wouldn't get "The Twin Stars" set seems rather wrong as in Rittsyn's Lost Pendant has ONLY Stamina which as we all know is for pvp, and now Arena. (you shouldn't be getting hit in pve if you are BOOT YOUR TANK!!!) This also brings me to my second conclusion why TTS set is better, as a shadowpriest you are also running out of mana fast, which TTS will supply you with Int and spirit, the spirit part is not that important but it should be added in as this set is one of the only few combos that give spirit. Next point is (this one I am not sure of) Vampiric Embrace will also benefit not much but still gain some added healing effect by TTS. I hope this has been rather helpful, oh one last thing.

I am a paladin and I love having TTS it is the best (in my opinion) combo a pally can have, expecially if you a Retribution Paladin like me ^.^

Kommentar von camarouge

Set seems IDEAL for a shadow priest(although, who's to say its not good for other priests while soloing?); High d/h, spirit(for spirit tap and such -- priests are all about spirit), decent stam/int.

And Avire has another point, it may be bizarre, but I also know a good amount about the retribution spec; instead of going full-warrior gear and gimping yourself, it is a much better idea... to go with caster gear! Thats right, int/d+h/stam is definitely what you need, indeed. Your dps will be consistently higher if you choose this route, as opposed to the warrior gear route, which I would assume has str and crit -- mind you, I am not saying a pally does not need these, they just seem like the hardest stats to get(Make no mistake -- spell damage is VERY important for a retribution pally!). In the end, I would say if you can't get your gear via pvp or from wherever, go the mage route(TTS!), and stack crit/str enchants(Cobrahide leg armor, Scryer shoulder enchants, etc).

Kommentar von scbandit4

The other day I had this drop from a Gan'Arg Analyzer next to one of the Apexis Monuments in Blades Edge Mountains while doing Ogri'la dailies. (Not listed on possible drops list)

Kommentar von solinvictus

Well, as of today (S3 beginning day) the high spelldamage of this set is surpassed by the new S3 ring and amulet (with +9 spelldamage gem). So it's another option for those who want to get the high spelldamage from rings and amulets before starting raiding.

Another thing: The buyout price on our server (Executus-EU) seems to start from 1000 and decreases to 400-500. I witnessed this multiple times so you can probably buy it for a cheaper price. (I bought my ring at 400 and amulet at 500)

Kommentar von masonsherlin

I was wondering if there was a reference to something with the names in these items.

I also think there should be another ring to add a 3 set for better.

Kommentar von Syrak

This along with Lollipop is the only item that is shown in search if you type LOL. -.-

Kommentar von Aulus

Aybabtu, while I agree that this is a wonderful set, I must respectfully disagree with your method of comparing this set with other items.

If you are comparing them as a set, then you take the combined statistics and pit them against the combined statistics of another group of items that fill every slot that the set does. However, when comparing only one of these items to another one that fills the same slot, splitting the set bonus is a flawed method, and here's why:

By giving them each +7.5 spell damage to be pit against other items, one ignores the fact that the entire 15 is lost when you replace a single one of them. If you have only one item in the set, its base stats, ignoring the bonus, is what needs to be considered because you don't currently have the bonus, and will not lose it when you obtain a replacement; similarly, when considering replacing an item with only one of these, the same method must be employed.

If, by contrast, you either have both of these items, or have one and are thinking of obtaining the other, the set bonus should be added in full to the value of the set piece to be replaced, or that is doing the replacing, because by gaining/losing that item, you gain/lose the entire set bonus, even though the other item was present to begin with, and will be thereafter.

As an example: Say you are a Shadow Priest comparing this item to Ritssyn's Lost Pendant. If you do not have the ring, you will not gain the +15 spell damage from the set bonus when you equip this, and therefore should not add any part of it into the equation, as the bonus is all or none. Comparing 24 Sta and 51 Sh. damage to 15 Sta, 14 Int, 13 Spi, and 29 d/h, the pendant is fairly easily superior for you. Now, let's say that you do have the ring. Since you will obtain the entire set bonus by equipping the necklace, and will have none of it if you don't, you must add it in full to the equation. Therefore: 24 Sta and 51 Sh. damage vs. 15 Sta, 14 Int, 13 Spi, and 44 d/h. Now things are looking a bit more balanced, and I can understand someone going either way in this instance.

The point of this is to show that theorycrafting a set item such as this against another item is subjective to each individual; you can't simply split the set bonus between applicable items. If you have one item in the set, that changes the value of the other(s) when pit against a rival item.

Kommentar von stryder74

yep same here but with WOTLK Lola's Lifegiving Branch shows up too

Kommentar von kilomax

This dropped for me off of one of the green and black hell boar looking things in Shadowmoon Valley

Kommentar von shadowarror

ne 1 else find this by typing in "lol"?

Kommentar von SaadSalam

i typed "lol" and found this and a staff and lollipop

Kommentar von Anniceman

The set is nice for mages priests and warlocks

Kommentar von Shew

Just bought it for 10 gold. I'm pretty sure the person that put it in the AH forgot a zero.

Kommentar von prumpulius12

the first three letters says it all

Kommentar von Cliptose

lol just bought it as it dropped for 50g on a kara run for my friend my locks gonna pawn at lvl 70

Kommentar von Besthealer

Lola's Eye

Even at level 70 I remember this item was not good at all compared to the other items that were easily obtainable and often stronger

Now this is useless unless its less than 20g because greens and blues you get from Northrend will replace this in an instant

Kommentar von Maegord

found it searching lol

Kommentar von roserose

Recommendedalways lack of gold to buy items/gears/equipts from AH?we just enjoy our game, stop wasting our time to farm.I Recommend a good and honest site wich offer all the BOE items/gears/equiptswww.itemvendor.com

Kommentar von Emnesia

Same. Searching random things is fun.

Now, if only there was an item with an ID of 1337 or 666....

Kommentar von gamerunknown

L-O-L-A lola

Kommentar von supabilly29

lola put youre eve away i am looking for a lol

Kommentar von goerise

Who did search on ''LOL'' here? xD

Kommentar von AmoTHRILL

Who did search on ''LOL'' here? xD

When WoW is getting to be a drag and the forums are getting pessimistic, really, the only thing to do it search LOL everywhere ^_^

Kommentar von supergurl

dumb

Kommentar von bogmore

I don't know if anyone has noticed but the two items are made up of four women's names.