Be thankful that the season of Obama media vetting of Republican presidential candidates is coming to a close as Republican voters in the primary states at long last get to have their say on who the nominee will be.

The last eight months of media focus on each of the "not-Romneys" has been like watching the picadors in a bullfight wound the bull with their lances before the brave matador steps into the ring to face the dying bull.

But already there's talk of third party campaigns if certain candidates' egos get bruised by voter rejection in the primary season.

All of us who are committed to the defeat of Barack Obama cannot let this happen. Candidates for the Republican nomination for President must pledge now to support the nominee chosen by the voters in upcoming primary elections. Failure to take the pledge should be a factor when Republican primary voters make their choice.

A second term for Obama would do unthinkable harm to this country. I know because I'm already living in Obama's second term.

I live in California, a former "golden state" now mired in bloated government, rising debt (despite a balanced budget amendment to the state constitution), higher taxes, 12% unemployment, with productive people and their businesses fleeing the state. California is awash in illegal aliens, failing schools, and pot hole filled roads.

Don't let California's present be your state's future.

Our incumbent president faces the voters having in just three years championed policies that more than doubled the annual federal deficit, added more than $4 trillion to the government's debt, nearly doubled the unemployment rate, and doubled the price of gasoline.

Based on this record of accomplishment, Obama went on 60 Minutes to claim with a straight face that he is the fourth best President in American history! To protect Obama from his Hugo Chavez moment, 60 Minutes edited out the claim in the on-air version of the interview.

To restore an America of opportunity and prosperity, not to mention humility, Obama must go.

But Obama will be re-elected if candidates rejected by primary voters, or self appointed billionaire blowhards, launch third party bids.

The first to threaten a third party run this week was libertarian Gary Johnson (who?). Wikipedia says Johnson was a two term governor of New Mexico.

Johnson advocates a 23% national sales tax, marijuana legalization, gay marriage, and an open border with Mexico. Johnson charges that "the Republican Party hung me out to dry" after he appeared on only two of the televised debates. Based on his platform, he got more time than he should have.

Johnson is not the threat. The threat is a third party run by Ron Paul, Mike Bloomberg, or Donald Trump. I'm not really worried about the billionaires either; they are most likely bluster and self promotion. I'm worried about a third party Ron Paul campaign re-electing Barack Obama.

Glenn Beck has said that should Newt Gingrich get the Republican nomination, Beck would back Ron Paul as a third party candidate. Glenn: Please reconsider.

According to a Washington Post/ABC News poll published this week, Ron Paul is within 5 points of Obama in a hypothetical November matchup between the two. But if Paul doesn't get the Republican nomination and makes a third party run, Obama will be re-elected when the conservative, right of center majority splits its vote between Paul and the Republican nominee.

What part of "Vote for Perot, Elect Clinton" do you not understand?

I've been down this road before. In 1992. I supported Perot. I was wrong. I won't get fooled again.

Any of the declared candidates for the Republican nomination are preferable to Obama. The choice of Republican voters in the coming primary season should be honored. Ron Paul and all the aspiring presidential hopefuls should pledge to support the nominee.

While I will personally vote in the primary for the candidate I think the most qualified and conservative, I will support the candidate who wins the Republican nomination, whether it be Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or even Governor Johnson.

The best times of a country are the ones in which the people decide their problems are their own. They do not blame them on anyone or anything. They realize they control their own destiny. One way or another, it's not about the leader, it's about the people. A country's leader is a manifestation of its people's character.

Through apathy, indifference, and dependence upon the government, we're about to be, once again, enslaved.

I recall a president named Nixon who campaigned as a conservative, yet when he got in, he embraced the Great Society, vastly expanded federal intrusion into the economy by creating the EPA and OSHA, started Affirmative Action, appointed the Supreme Court Justice who wrote Roe vs Wade, and tried to push through a guaranteed annual income.

People forget this. Nixon probably did at least as much to destroy this country as LBJ. By rights liberals should idolize him.

I voted for Sarah not the old machine or the RINOs. The Republicans and Democrats are too much alike for me. The tea party needs to start it's own party and not try to take over the tired old ideas republican party. The original Tea Party was against the Loyalists. The democrats and the republicans are the loyalists now and for real change we need a real party not run by the big money and world organizations.

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posted on 12/24/2011 5:10:38 PM PST
by mountainlion
(I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)

Yep, we've pretty much established that Romney would take us down the same path as Obama, albeit without all the rush and fanfare. We'd be utter fools to believe that he'd change course in any meaningful way.

What I'm trying to find out from OSHA, is what the actual substantive difference is between these two big government liberals. He refuses to say, yet he insists that we vote for the pastel pink over the bold red.

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posted on 12/24/2011 5:13:41 PM PST
by Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)

EVERY election from when I started voting in the 60's the GOP has used the scare tactic of "This is THE MOST important election in our lifetime" to get the gullible to vote for the RINO of the moment.

Then it's more of the same. Bigger government, higher taxes, less liberty.

Bring it on. Let's get it over with.

NO Rockefellers, Romneys, McCains, Doles, COUNTRY CLUB REPUBLICANS! NO!

In the 2008 election here in Pittsburgh I was chastised by the Hillman republicans when I went into the local HQ and not finding a sign with PALIN'S name on it was told to shut up, McCain was the nominee and Palin was nothing!

Go to Hades you non conservatives who will vote for anything with an R behind the name!

Take this RINO's and those who will vote for anyone but Obama:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

One of my favorite quotes from S Adams.

Yup, I'm ticked off, but I hide it so well...!

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posted on 12/24/2011 5:43:32 PM PST
by prisoner6
(Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)

If the trust fund babies succeed in nominating the Mitwit, then the Republican Party establishment will be causing the re-election of Obozo. Romney's election would merely destroy the Republican Party and any chance we may have of reversing Obozo'z damage to this country. The Mitwit IS Obozo disguised as a brainless Ken doll. He would make the GOP responsible for the disasters that are sure to result from Obozo's first four years. The Mitwit is no better than his father. George Romney turned traitor on the Vietnam War, claiming to have been "brainwashed." Anti-war Democrat Eugene McCarthy (who later endorsed Reagan in 1980 and 1984) memorably observed that George Romney needed only a "light rinse." That makes the Mitwit an hereditary idiot.

The Mitwit WILL, if given the chance, in OUR name as Republicans or Conservatives:

1. Perpetuate the slaughter of innocent babies whatever lies he may tell now to get in office;

2. Grab guns enthusiastically;

3. Support "marriages" between Adam and Steve and their ability to adopt (recruit) innocent children;

4. Regard military preparedness as an utterly unnecessary "luxury;"

5. Obsess on the care and feeding of trust funds by deporting American jobs, further destroying the industrial sector of the American economy and encouraging the further deterioration of the real income of most Americans, all cheered on by his pals down at the polo club who will unanimously agree with that and his obsession with protecting them through tax policies;

6. Further destroy the SCOTUS and inferior fedcourts by appointments in the despicable GOP establishment tradition of such appointments as Herod Blackmun, Sandra Day O'Connor, David Souter, Lewis Powell and their ilk;

7. Appoint a legion of environmental whackos to mske our lives more miserable and a swarm of bureaucrats who will "harass our people and eat out their substance" as the Declaration of Independence stated it;

8. Destroy further whatever is left of our civil liberties because we wogs will just have to learn our "place;"

9. Lie incessantly on each and every policy that matters because he is simply NOT one of us;

10. Bludgeon into line by the power of establishment money any GOP Congress member with Tea Party or pr-life or pro-gun or pro-family or pro-American rank and file income principles, turning the GOP caucuses further into the political equivalent of mashed potatoes. Do not believe any politically opportunist lie out of the leftist Ken Doll's mouth and certainly do NOT vote this despicable character into office. It would take us a generation to take over or destroy the GOP and/or create a new party of national clout. Oh, and his claimed Mormon faith has absolutely nothing to do with this any more than our opposition to Obozo has anything to do with his skin color.

Tokyo Rove can also go straight to hell as he has become the GOP's own Axelrod destroying or attempting to destroy any GOP candidate worth voting for on both the executive and legislative levels. Bush the Elder (of New World Order fame and a certified member of the clueless American community) has endorsed the Mitwit, What else do we really need to know?

RE :”feel better now ??? get over yourself and your FEAR of the boogeyman...*if* a representative doesnt show up worthy of voting FOR, then the blame doesnt fall on the citizenry that had a *choice* between piss and vinegar...it lies squarely on the statist gubmint and the media lackeys that have driven the citizen legislator into extinction.”

Vote for the RINO or we all die Gilbo. Maybe he will keep us alive an extra few months :)

I would never consider promising to vote for a generic Republican candidate ahead of time. Let them win the nomination then prove they are worthy of my support and vote.

Back in 2008, the choice either Obama or McCain was so terrible I decided to wait till the last minute an hour before poll close to decide if I was going to vote at all. By that time it was absolutely clear to me (and anyone paying attention) that McCain would lose anyway so it didn't matter.

The way things are going I will probably be put in the same situation.

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posted on 12/24/2011 6:11:49 PM PST
by sickoflibs
(You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)

Conservatives DID NOT stay home in 2008. Moderates and Independents smacked the GOP like they did in 2006. They reversed course in 2010. That's why we now have the House. Do you need exit poll results? Search 2006exitpoll, 2008exitpoll and 2010exitpoll as keywords. I posted those results, or linked them for 2010, a sample of 17,504, IIRC, from CBS.

...I agree. In 08 I lived in KY and voted at the end of the day for reasons not needing explaining here. McCain won the electorate by a big margin, so, my vote was by default, meaningless. Rand Paul also got my vote for senator. Yes, we need more like him and less like McConnell.

I will endeavor at a local and state level here in VA if I stay to elect conservatives, but I don't have much hope for the WH. I'm done with Presidents, they're supposed to lead, but the last several have mucked up in too many ways. My Congressman is supposed to represent. That is my only voice in this. Thanks for the input. Merry Christmas.

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posted on 12/24/2011 7:46:38 PM PST
by gargoyle
(...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)

I think we need to nominate a tea party candidate and get independents on board.Screw the GOP.I am sick of the dog and pony shows.Dems win ruin everything GOP wins they only show nads when town halls happen and they are forced too..Dems win, GOP wins.They all say -every time- that they will close the borders and do term limits and stop spending.AND NOTHING CHANGES.Rinse and repeat rinse and repeat.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.IT IS INSANE.

So you will not vote at all if it is Romney or Paul? Not likely it will be Paul, so we are talking Romney. If you do not vote for Romney, you will allow an Obama voter (of which there will be many) to have their vote counted and not negated. Its simple mathematics - a nonvote by you is a vote for Obama. For all intents and purposes, you will be voting for Obama, no?

So, I would humbly suggest, DennisR, you get in there with the rest of us and make sure that Romney does not make it out of the Primaries, because otherwise, Obama wins.

Not just because a sizable majority of the base of the GOP refuses to vote for Romney, but because he just can't win.

I think you said a nice sentiment, but from what I have seen since 1996, I doubt we have good poll watching

While Dole was a clown, CLINTON was our worst president and enough people knew of his treason and were furious at him, yet he wins with a 60% margin??

Gore/LIEberman coming so close in 2000?

If Kerry wasn’t so pompous, I think it would have been closer, but in 2008, I just dont see all the millions of ballots that we KNEW were fraudulent and also commented on here so much then as being dismissable

we are in grave danger from voter fraud, and I am not happy at a national ID card, which if honest is the only cure

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posted on 12/25/2011 5:15:41 AM PST
by RaceBannon
(Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)

If you love your country, kick out the usurper soetoro/soebarkah/barry/bounel/shabbazz/obama no matter what!
Not voing against the usurper means you want to keep obamacare, union thugs, acorn, voter fraud, czars, socialists/marxists, islamofascists, unprecedented deficits/debts, depressed economy, no future for your children and their children, hyprocracies and lies, hyper inflation........
Got it?
With a conservative congress, a vigilant people, even a Rino will be steered in the right direction.
One step at a time!

I've been down this road before. In 1992. I supported Perot. I was wrong. I won't get fooled again.

Agree and AMEN. Before I'd ever vote for a third party candidate again we'd have to have runoff elections in place for public offices. Basically, anybody and everybody in the building in those pubby debates including the janitor and the guard dog would be a gigantic improvement over Barrack Obama.

I am not for Romney, but
Unlike soetoro/sobarkah/barry/bounnel/shabbazz/barrry/obama/whatever, Romney and all the other R candidates are Americans who love America! There will be no czars, less union thugs, no world-wide apologies, lower debts/deficits, less spending.......
A conservative congress and a vigilant people will be better positioned to steer even a Rino in the right path.
With 4 more years of the anti-constitution, anti-American usurper BHO/aka, USA will be finsished!

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