Does anyone here (that is good at picking a piece the first time) rack all their pro on one biner each? I'm somewhat new to the trad game and was thinking about changing things up now that I am a little better at picking gear. How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

Does that sound reasonable for quick climbing and with minimal motions and not to heavy? I figure the added biners on the nuts is offset by not carrying two binered draws.

No. That would require too much gear and too much weight. Far too unecessary.

I carry 30 nuts when I climb. I would hate to use your suggested method. *double set of nuts 1-10 DMM, WC *6 Peenuts *4 RPs (proper RPs)

LOL. I am picturing him going into REI and saying "Could I please have 100 biners? Yes, 100. Thank you." J/K. I rack everything from smallest to biggest. So, I put all my micro stoppers from smallest to biggest on one biner. Cams, smallest to biggest, two to a biner, unless I have doubles, then the doubles go on the same biner. Etc. Etc. So, I don't have to think about it too much when I get up there.

This is actually going to make it much worse when trying to figure out what size nut you want for a placement. You're more than welcome to try it of course, but I'm just saying that there's a reason that you never see anyone doing this.

As a general rule, no. I carry 2 or 3 biners with all my nuts. However, I have been known to pre-rack a key nut on a draw for a redpoint attempt. That way I can quickly grab it, place it, and clip it. I did this just this last weekend for my hardest trad redpoint.

Does anyone here (that is good at picking a piece the first time) rack all their pro on one biner each?

I suppose I would if I just did a pitch but took/fell, got to the top, lowered/rapped, and wanted to try to do the pitch again clean. That is assuming I did not want to change any of the pro placed on the last attempt.

Does anyone here (that is good at picking a piece the first time) rack all their pro on one biner each? I'm somewhat new to the trad game and was thinking about changing things up now that I am a little better at picking gear. How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

Does that sound reasonable for quick climbing and with minimal motions and not to heavy? I figure the added biners on the nuts is offset by not carrying two binered draws.

It turns out that a lot of the bulk my rack is the biners. I recently climbed with a friends rack where he had multiple cams per biner, and it was much svelter than mine...I'm not convinced about it though. We both have multiple nuts on a single biner.

If you knew exactly which pieces you were going to plug where, and were going for a lightweight attempt, then preracking one per draw would make sense. But, for normal climbing, as others have said, it would make your rack too bulky, heavy, and not help that much in terms of "fumble factor."

No. That would require too much gear and too much weight. Far too unecessary.

I carry 30 nuts when I climb. I would hate to use your suggested method. *double set of nuts 1-10 DMM, WC *6 Peenuts *4 RPs (proper RPs)

LOL. I am picturing him going into REI and saying "Could I please have 100 biners? Yes, 100. Thank you." J/K. I rack everything from smallest to biggest. So, I put all my micro stoppers from smallest to biggest on one biner. Cams, smallest to biggest, two to a biner, unless I have doubles, then the doubles go on the same biner. Etc. Etc. So, I don't have to think about it too much when I get up there.

No. That would require too much gear and too much weight. Far too unecessary.

I carry 30 nuts when I climb. I would hate to use your suggested method. *double set of nuts 1-10 DMM, WC *6 Peenuts *4 RPs (proper RPs)

LOL. I am picturing him going into REI and saying "Could I please have 100 biners? Yes, 100. Thank you." J/K. I rack everything from smallest to biggest. So, I put all my micro stoppers from smallest to biggest on one biner. Cams, smallest to biggest, two to a biner, unless I have doubles, then the doubles go on the same biner. Etc. Etc. So, I don't have to think about it too much when I get up there.

Jonathan, what most climbers do is divide the set of nuts into two or three - bigger pieces on one biner and smaller pieces on another. This way you reduce the risk of losing all your stoppers if you accidentally drop them and makes fiddling with different sizes easier. Plus if you can see the climb from the ground, you can choose to leave either set on the ground to reduce weight. Also, racking the stoppers on ovals is super-handy.

How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

I think you should totally try it out. Nobody here has done it, and while it isn't likely to be something you keep doing, it should be humorous for those watching.

How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners).

I know every one else has beaten you up about everything else in your post, but I've got to respond to this part (for some reason?!?).

Peguet, the maker of Mallion Rapide-brand quicklinks, makes a Zink/aluminum alloy quicklink (they call "Zicral") in two sizes. 7mm, which has a breaking load of ~12kN and weighs a scant 18 grams (less than a CAMP Nano!); and a 10mm which has a BL of ~24kN at almost 49 grams (about the weight of a bigger non-locker).

Most nuts have a strength rating of 10-12kN and most placements in rock will only hold ~10kN max anyway, so let's go for the 7mm quicklinks.

Does anyone here (that is good at picking a piece the first time) rack all their pro on one biner each? I'm somewhat new to the trad game and was thinking about changing things up now that I am a little better at picking gear. How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

Does that sound reasonable for quick climbing and with minimal motions and not to heavy? I figure the added biners on the nuts is offset by not carrying two binered draws.

Most Biners I know typically have 2 nuts each or no nuts at all. Then again, most whom I know don't like to be called Biners.

Does anyone here (that is good at picking a piece the first time) rack all their pro on one biner each? I'm somewhat new to the trad game and was thinking about changing things up now that I am a little better at picking gear. How about taking nuts and putting a quicklink on the wire, with a flexible dogbone and biner, making them similiar to racked cams (that have their own biners). Then hexes on webbing just need a biner. So everything is grab and plug and if needed extension you could grab slings that are perhaps twist racked on one biner each?

Does that sound reasonable for quick climbing and with minimal motions and not to heavy? I figure the added biners on the nuts is offset by not carrying two binered draws.

Most Biners I know typically have 2 nuts each or no nuts at all. Then again, most whom I know don't like to be called Biners.