And when the tide of facts disprove their entrenched views, rather than listen to the facts and adjust their views accordingly, they pop their fingers in their ears and shout the usual remoaners, losers, enemy of the peoples, traitors, FISH, liberal elite, taking back control, we won get over it, clear majority, islington types, blah blah blah

I’ve just been listening to an account of this business on the wireless, Eb. Apparently when it came down to the final two tenders, De La Rue the current printers were undercut by the French firm to the tune of £17m.

Here’s the quandary British workers face going forward caught in the Con-Lab pincer: on the one hand you have those to whom any argument that doesn’t boil down to a financial bottom-line falls on deaf ears, on the other you have those to whom a call to national preference, national sentiment is met with blank incomprehension, or worse...

Footage has emerged of Rees Mogg and a,fellow Tory MP holding their own protest after they were unable to board the trawler in the Thames due to failure to obtain the correct licence from Transport for London.

I’ve just been listening to an account of this business on the wireless, Eb. Apparently when it came down to the final two tenders, De La Rue the current printers were undercut by the French firm to the tune of £17m.

Here’s the quandary British workers face going forward caught in the Con-Lab pincer: on the one hand you have those to whom any argument that doesn’t boil down to a financial bottom-line falls on deaf ears, on the other you have those to whom a call to national preference, national sentiment is met with blank incomprehension, or worse...

A contradiction in the arguments of Brexiters.!

Arguing for global free trade but demanding control if the trade freely goes elsewhere.

I’ve just been listening to an account of this business on the wireless, Eb. Apparently when it came down to the final two tenders, De La Rue the current printers were undercut by the French firm to the tune of £17m.

Here’s the quandary British workers face going forward caught in the Con-Lab pincer: on the one hand you have those to whom any argument that doesn’t boil down to a financial bottom-line falls on deaf ears, on the other you have those to whom a call to national preference, national sentiment is met with blank incomprehension, or worse...

I guess its the trouble with the whole Left / Right political dogma. Both beliefs are full of contradictions, the right answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

No sh!t. But she's getting the run around from the Brexit elites within her party.

Ok I get it, it’s all brexits fault even though we haven’t even left yet. ( you were even arguing the case that we are nowhere near leaving yesterday). Am I right to assume that you used to blame any British contracts sent abroad before the referendum on the EU? Na, didn’t think so.

I’ve just been listening to an account of this business on the wireless, Eb. Apparently when it came down to the final two tenders, De La Rue the current printers were undercut by the French firm to the tune of £17m.

Here’s the quandary British workers face going forward caught in the Con-Lab pincer: on the one hand you have those to whom any argument that doesn’t boil down to a financial bottom-line falls on deaf ears, on the other you have those to whom a call to national preference, national sentiment is met with blank incomprehension, or worse...

The same EU who pull the reigns on any idea our government has full stop. You’re right, it is a fact the laws and rights could change, as could many other things. What is also factual is that they could all change to our benefit, but that doesn’t sit well with your argument so you rule that out with no substance whatsoever.

Change to our benefit? errr you mean the government's benefit not us. I wouldn't trust them to run my f ucking bath.

In what way will the people of the UK have any say in the UK?

The Tories were given 800 grand by the Russians and 700 grand by Cambridge Analytica.

All business and capitalism itself are international, the £ is owned by the US dollar, we are owned and governed by the rich of the world.

I’ve just been listening to an account of this business on the wireless, Eb. Apparently when it came down to the final two tenders, De La Rue the current printers were undercut by the French firm to the tune of £17m.

Here’s the quandary British workers face going forward caught in the Con-Lab pincer: on the one hand you have those to whom any argument that doesn’t boil down to a financial bottom-line falls on deaf ears, on the other you have those to whom a call to national preference, national sentiment is met with blank incomprehension, or worse...

De La Rue makes passports for 40 countries and banknotes for 150.

Should these contracts also be kept 'in house' or is it just the British tax payer that should pay over the odds? What do you think Lohengrin? Should all those countries look after their own people instead - or don't we care about their national preference?

I suspect that they bid believing that the government wouldn't dare send this overseas, and have been caught out for being bloody greedy. Otherwise why on earth would a French company be able to undercut by such an extent?

Should these contracts also be kept 'in house' or is it just the British tax payer that should pay over the odds? What do you think Lohengrin? Should all those countries look after their own people instead - or don't we care about their national preference?

I suspect that they bid believing that the government wouldn't dare send this overseas, and have been caught out for being bloody greedy. Otherwise why on earth would a French company be able to undercut by such an extent?

Should these contracts also be kept 'in house' or is it just the British tax payer that should pay over the odds? What do you think Lohengrin? Should all those countries look after their own people instead - or don't we care about their national preference?

I suspect that they bid believing that the government wouldn't dare send this overseas, and have been caught out for being bloody greedy. Otherwise why on earth would a French company be able to undercut by such an extent?

I wonder how many of the posters reading this would before today have just automatically assumed that passports were printed by an arm of HMSO, or something similar? The majority I would assume? How many do you imagine are comfortable with the document being produced overseas?

Does the location of where Ghanaians have their banknotes printed cause me sleepless nights, is that really what you’re asking me?

Greed? Who knows, not me? I’ve not got the first idea what has gone on in the contract negotiations all I can tell you is that this instinctively feels like another incremental slip in our manufacturing decline. Yet another stab in the back.

I wonder how many of the posters reading this would before today have just automatically assumed that passports were printed by an arm of HMSO, or something similar? The majority I would assume? How many do you imagine are comfortable with the document being produced overseas?

Does the location of where Ghanaians have their banknotes printed cause me sleepless nights, is that really what you’re asking me?

Greed? Who knows, not me? I’ve not got the first idea what has gone on in the contract negotiations all I can tell you is that this instinctively feels like another incremental slip in our manufacturing decline. Yet another stab in the back.

I'm pointing out that it works both ways. De La Rue gains overall from a global marketplace.

As do many thousands of UK companies and, as a result, the employees of those companies.

You can't have it both ways.

Ironically, the protectionist nature of the EU has, to some extent at least, insulated UK companies. They will now find themselves competing without that protection against companies based all over the world. Including many countries who frankly don't care too much about employee rights, working hours, pay or safety.

I'm pointing out that it works both ways. De La Rue gains overall from a global marketplace.

As do many thousands of UK companies and, as a result, the employees of those companies.

You can't have it both ways.

Ironically, the protectionist nature of the EU has, to some extent at least, insulated UK companies. They will now find themselves competing without that protection against companies based all over the world. Including many countries who frankly don't care too much about employee rights, working hours, pay or safety.

That's only going to go one way.

I covered your last paragraph on a previous page. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

A Passport isn’t just a ‘product’ though, it’s a security document. You simply do not, cannot, farm them out. For emerging countries the scenario may be different, but not for us. You know the dangers.

I covered your last paragraph on a previous page. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

A Passport isn’t just a ‘product’ though, it’s a security document. You simply do not, cannot, farm them out. For emerging countries the scenario may be different, but not for us. You know the dangers.

Well we have been farming out 20% of them for 9 years, and I assume you don't feel the same when British companies manufacture for overseas military? That's pretty crucial security stuff right there.

What about the Royal Mint looking close to home? They make coins for over 40 countries.

What about the German Parliament being designed by. British firm?

Rees Mogg et al have been telling everyone how wonderful this new 'free trading' world will be for everyone. Brexiteers think it's fantastic. And now they want protectionism. Lol. Time to wake up perhaps.