herb wrote:
On the PP you can see the guys get the puck, think, think again, and by that time the defender is right in their grill. I just think some quicker decision making and quicker shots would do wonders at this point. Throw out the tape, and just work on quick shots from the point. Not necessarily hard shuts, but bang-bang plays. Get the defenders moving, get some shots on net and try to get some momentum at the very least.

Go watch replays for the last 5 seasons. Just a sampling is all you will need. Nothing has changed. This is how the Sedins have always done it, but the league has figured out that the way to beat them is just to not chase them around the boards. Hold your positional PK and the Sedins will kill the penalty for you by standing still and trying to find a way to make a play. It has always been this way.

Meds wrote:Go watch replays for the last 5 seasons. Just a sampling is all you will need. Nothing has changed. This is how the Sedins have always done it, but the league has figured out that the way to beat them is just to not chase them around the boards. Hold your positional PK and the Sedins will kill the penalty for you by standing still and trying to find a way to make a play. It has always been this way.

I see what you're saying. The Sedins have always been pretty stationary players, but their puck movement on the PP used to be a lot more fluid. How often do we see a one timer on the PP currently? Rarely.

Meds wrote:Go watch replays for the last 5 seasons. Just a sampling is all you will need. Nothing has changed. This is how the Sedins have always done it, but the league has figured out that the way to beat them is just to not chase them around the boards. Hold your positional PK and the Sedins will kill the penalty for you by standing still and trying to find a way to make a play. It has always been this way.

I see what you're saying. The Sedins have always been pretty stationary players, but their puck movement on the PP used to be a lot more fluid. How often do we see a one timer on the PP currently? Rarely.

That's because the PK is setting up to take that away, and the Sedins are NOT a threat to drive the puck into the slot for a shot themselves, so it's ridiculously easy for opponents to make our PP look AHL quality.

Regardless, if the gameplan of our PP is to get shots from the point, be they one-timers or not, then the umbrella setup works for that and should leave us with a minimum of two forwards at the net. If they want to run that way then it should be Garrison at the point, with Kes and Hank on the wing so that when Garrison doesn't have a shot he has the option to feed it to the LW for Kes to unload a one-timer. Kassian/Burrows/Hansen/Higgins and Daniel can be at the net. There is absolutely NO need for Daniel to be picking his ass in the corner as a support option for Henrik. If Hank doesn't have a pass to the point, going to the corner is fruitless, so he should just try and thread it through traffic to the net. Make the PK respect that and he'll have more lanes to pass, and with 2 Canucks at the net it is at least an even number battle for the rebound initially.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Not Burrows he should have been on the Olympic team

You are starting to sound like RD there Blob.....only instead of Gillis it's Burrows.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is intentional.

There's no way Burrows is this bad so sudden. Chalk it up to injuries, several this year, and being out of synch/conditioning. He'll get it back. Even if he's no longer at the level he was (neither of most of his teammates) he'll still be better than this.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Not Burrows he should have been on the Olympic team

You are starting to sound like RD there Blob.....only instead of Gillis it's Burrows.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is intentional.

At least my Gillis rants are valid, Blob is angry that his boi Gillis is getting shit on, deservedly so. Last season Blob blamed the giggler - AV, and Gillis did as well for all that was wrong, this year he is grasping at straws, hence - Burrows, cause he refuses to blame his boi - Gillis.

The process

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

ClamRussel wrote:
There's no way Burrows is this bad so sudden. Chalk it up to injuries, several this year, and being out of synch/conditioning. He'll get it back. Even if he's no longer at the level he was (neither of most of his teammates) he'll still be better than this.

^this^

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

Topper wrote:I repeat, Burrows should have been traded over a year ago when he still had value and before negotiating his new contract. Some other fool should be paying him $8 million this year.

Strangelove wrote:
Just saying.

IE. This ain't NHL 2013 and there are people in this market (quite a lot of them in fact) that have grown quite attached to members of the core group because of their 10/11 run. Getting rid of any of them is actually a big deal.

10/11 was the run - President's Cup trophy winner and SC 7th game loss. Hank won the Art Ross.

11/12 was a bit of a let down - President's Cup trophy winner (again), Dank getting concussed by Keith, 4-1 loss to the eventual SC Trophy winner. There was talk of the switch but there was no switch. We were switchless.

12/13 was a lock out year and the NHL season started on January 19th.

So less than a month into the lock out season, we should have traded Burr. Doesn't really makes sense.

- Kesler was out because of hip surgery and came back on Feb 15.
- Malholtra got retired.
- Then Kesler gets injured again and goes on IR.
- and then Bieksa gets injured.

So we're pretty much treading water to the trade deadline and with Kesler's injuries and the Sedins looking like they were playing injured, trading Burr was the last thing on anyone's mind.

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Ok... should we have traded Burr in the summer of 2013? Well, who knows. There could possibly be a case to make for GMMG to have gutted the team last summer. Our playoff loss to the Sharks was quite an embarrassing one and could have been treated as the first real sign that we weren't good enough. But there just wasn't enough definitive evidence that that was the case IMO.