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i agree that the ps3 has alot of nice little perks like blu ray and those games i mentioned ealier, but it just doesn't have backwards compatability with ps2 games unless you have the old, $600 model.

personally, i get most of the enjoyment out of the wii because of its exceptional library of games, both downloadable and disk based, and for the xbox, mostly just downloadable (i play more orange box than anything else).

i really dont see the charm in blu ray... it just makes movie have higher clarity and 60fps. and that actually makes some movies look WORSE! i mean, have you watched a clockwork orange on dvd, and then watched it on blu ray? on dvd, it has a grittiness and distorted charm that you can only really get with an older output, whilst the blu ray makes it look too good. it loses that classical cham, and makes everything look like somebody is just recording something live with an HD camera. its not surreal enough.

i mean, some movies tend to be visual stunners, but they aren't what i look for in movies. i want a well-written story, charm, extravagance, great characters, entertainment, and a nicely developed plot.

beauty does not a good movie make.

and i'm not arguing about the game library. it definitely does have a nice selection of originals, but i tend to like the games that are available for both consoles, like bioshock, the orange box, rock band, etc.

i agree that the ps3 has alot of nice little perks like blu ray and those games i mentioned ealier, but it just doesn't have backwards compatability with ps2 games unless you have the old, $600 model.

Sony is fixing that with more and more PS2 games becoming downloadable via PSN. And if you have a working PS2, then what's the problem with not being able to play them on a PS3? That's double profit for Sony and they ARE a business.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

personally, i get most of the enjoyment out of the wii because of its exceptional library of games, both downloadable and disk based, and for the xbox, mostly just downloadable (i play more orange box than anything else).

i really dont see the charm in blu ray... it just makes movie have higher clarity and 60fps. and that actually makes some movies look WORSE! i mean, have you watched a clockwork orange on dvd, and then watched it on blu ray? on dvd, it has a grittiness and distorted charm that you can only really get with an older output, whilst the blu ray makes it look too good. it loses that classical cham, and makes everything look like somebody is just recording something live with an HD camera. its not surreal enough.

Then don't buy them. Just because someone has a PS3 does not mean that they just buy blu ray disks from then on. PS3 can play regular DVDs.
And how something looks based on disk format is totally opinion-based and not a true argumentative point to make.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

i mean, some movies tend to be visual stunners, but they aren't what i look for in movies. i want a well-written story, charm, extravagance, great characters, entertainment, and a nicely developed plot.

beauty does not a good movie make.

No, but it helps. That's why Hollywood tends to hire attractive people to be actors. Unless you would rather watch a romantic movie between two very ugly fat people as long as it had a good plot?

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

and i'm not arguing about the game library. it definitely does have a nice selection of originals, but i tend to like the games that are available for both consoles, like bioshock, the orange box, rock band, etc.

Again, an opinion. Though it's safe to say that most people will agree that what makes a console "worth it" are the exclusives. If every game was multiplatform, there'd be no reason to buy one console or the other.

Sony is fixing that with more and more PS2 games becoming downloadable via PSN. And if you have a working PS2, then what's the problem with not being able to play them on a PS3? That's double profit for Sony and they ARE a business.

most people who have a PS3 don't have a PS2. alot of my friends traded their PS2's for a PS3 in fact. and as for the DLC PS2 games, isnt that what the 360 did 2 years ago with xbox originals? lol

Originally Posted by pichubro

Then don't buy them. Just because someone has a PS3 does not mean that they just buy blu ray disks from then on. PS3 can play regular DVDs.
And how something looks based on disk format is totally opinion-based and not a true argumentative point to make.

no, but it shouldn't be a big advertising gimmick. most sales of the ps3 back in '08 were promoted almost completely by blu ray and MGS4.

and these aren't to raise argument, these are simply opinions.

Originally Posted by pichubro

No, but it helps. That's why Hollywood tends to hire attractive people to be actors. Unless you would rather watch a romantic movie between two very ugly fat people as long as it had a good plot?

lol, i didn't mean the characters, i meant the video quality. and even so, have you seen shawn of the dead? the characters aren't phenomenally beautiful, and most of the extras are normal people. some ugly, some not. and it got its way into being my favorite movie of all time for it's character's acting, the comedy, the most brilliant writing i have ever seen, and the clever homage cinematography. its definitely low budget in effects, but its still a brilliant film.

and it does help movies like transformers and avatar be "super dooper cool" and "omg that was a big explosion wowee!"

Originally Posted by pichubro

Again, an opinion. Though it's safe to say that most people will agree that what makes a console "worth it" are the exclusives. If every game was multiplatform, there'd be no reason to buy one console or the other.

get the cheaper alternative if most of the games you want on it are for both platforms. that was really the reason.

PS: all of my comments ARE opinions. thats what i was trying to express. if i just spread nothing but facts, i would be spewing out things people already knew, and i'd be wasting more of your time.

most people who have a PS3 don't have a PS2. alot of my friends traded their PS2's for a PS3 in fact. and as for the DLC PS2 games, isnt that what the 360 did 2 years ago with xbox originals? lol

Nah, most people I know held onto their PS2s, especially since most bought their PS3s after the price drop and the backward compatibility was taken out. I kept my PS2, and ol' bessy is still going strong, though she doesn't play blue disks anymore. Aww...

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

no, but it shouldn't be a big advertising gimmick. most sales of the ps3 back in '08 were promoted almost completely by blu ray and MGS4.

And Microsoft was betting on Halo, Xbox Live and the fact that it was released before the PS3. lolmarketing.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

and these aren't to raise argument, these are simply opinions.

Mmm'kay.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

lol, i didn't mean the characters, i meant the video quality. and even so, have you seen shawn of the dead? the characters aren't phenomenally beautiful, and most of the extras are normal people. some ugly, some not. and it got its way into being my favorite movie of all time for it's character's acting, the comedy, the most brilliant writing i have ever seen, and the clever homage cinematography. its definitely low budget in effects, but its still a brilliant film.

and it does help movies like transformers and avatar be "super dooper cool" and "omg that was a big explosion wowee!"

I'm an animation buff. SFX to me are the color palettes and art style. Blu rays are actually better for animated movies than live action ones because animated movies typically have more color contrast and look better with a beefed up frame rate. If anything, blu rays have better audio quality, which is why I buy them.
I actually can't wait until blu ray FLCL finally gets released. FUNimation said that it was supposed to be released by the holiday season this year, those lying sneers.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

get the cheaper alternative if most of the games you want on it are for both platforms. that was really the reason.

Nah, most people I know held onto their PS2s, especially since most bought their PS3s after the price drop and the backward compatibility was taken out. I kept my PS2, and ol' bessy is still going strong, though she doesn't play blue disks anymore. Aww...

at least 80% of people i know got rid of their PS2, but thats just a personal experience

Originally Posted by pichubro

And Microsoft was betting on Halo, Xbox Live and the fact that it was released before the PS3. lolmarketing.

oh marketing you cruel faggot

Originally Posted by pichubro

Mmm'kay.

your a lackey mackey!

Originally Posted by pichubro

I'm an animation buff. SFX to me are the color palettes and art style. Blu rays are actually better for animated movies than live action ones because animated movies typically have more color contrast and look better with a beefed up frame rate. If anything, blu rays have better audio quality, which is why I buy them.
I actually can't wait until blu ray FLCL finally gets released. FUNimation said that it was supposed to be released by the holiday season this year, those lying sneers.

But, if you're looking for overall quality of the game based on graphics and playability, that'd go (PC) > PS3 > 360 > Wii.

price is right, except PC can be anywhere in that mess

but personally, i think the wii has more playability than all of the systems. it has a choice between 3 main controllers (wiimote, wiimote/nunchuk, gamecube controller), it has a library that spans every generation of console, it has some of the greatest games of all time (SMgalaxy 1 and 2, twilight princess, SMBB, resident evil 4 wii and GC, resident evil umbrella and darkside chronicles, madworld, etc.) and its perfectly backwards compatable with GC (besides the gameboy player).

i'd say, in playability wii> ps3 > PC > 360

PC behind PS3 because its variable. there isn't a consistent model that performs the same as another

and i'd consider graphics as another category, and i'd think you got that right.

Typically, PC's cost more. To get any good PC that can run games is hundreds of dollars already, plus any added specs, and any replaced/updated parts you get over the years. To keep your PC in top form for games, you also have to update it every 6 months, if not, every year. Consoles are much more plug-and-play because the games are made with the hardware in mind. It's reversed for PCs.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

but personally, i think the wii has more playability than all of the systems. it has a choice between 3 main controllers (wiimote, wiimote/nunchuk, gamecube controller), it has a library that spans every generation of console, it has some of the greatest games of all time (SMgalaxy 1 and 2, twilight princess, SMBB, resident evil 4 wii and GC, resident evil umbrella and darkside chronicles, madworld, etc.) and its perfectly backwards compatable with GC (besides the gameboy player).

Mmm, I've been playing my Wii for everyday this past week. Playing me some great Fire Emblem.

Originally Posted by Pants, and the beast dwelling within

i'd say, in playability wii> ps3 > PC > 360

PC behind PS3 because its variable. there isn't a consistent model that performs the same as another

and i'd consider graphics as another category, and i'd think you got that right.

You know that Wii's are indestructible (or, at least, airtight)? I accidentally split orange soda all over my Wii about a year ago and it still works. My brother's 360 once was tripped over by the dog and it got the red ring of death. Yay.