*Several county clerks in Colorado said they’ve seen hundreds of people withdraw their voter registrations following the state’s announcement that it would comply with President Trump’s voter fraud commission.

In Denver, a spokesperson for the Denver Elections Division said 180 people have withdrawn their registrations in the county since Monday, according to a Denver Channel report.

In Arapahoe County, which contains the city of Aurora, at least 160 people have withdrawn their registrations since July 1.

The counties normally see fewer than 10 withdrawn registrations in similar time frames.

Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams said last week he would submit the registrations requested by the Trump administration.

Numerous states have said they won’t comply with the request for voter registrations, which include the last four digits of Social Security numbers and other identifying information. CNN reported earlier this week that 44 states refused to comply with the request by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who serves as vice chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.

Kobach disputed that number Wednesday, saying only 14 states and the District of Columbia have refused.

Kobach has asked every state and the District of Columbia for voter registration data including the names, addresses, birthdays, the last four digits of Social Security numbers if available, voter history, and other personal information, the Kansas City Star reported.*

In Colorado, ‘confusion,’ ‘hysteria,’ and voters unregistering at some local election officesOne local election head: “If you de-register, they win.”

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Voters who fear their personal information heading to the hands of an administration they don’t trust have looked to a voter version of life hacks to thwart it.

Election officials across the state are reporting a spike in voters requesting confidential status. Others are unregistering altogether with plans to sign back up after July 14 when Williams sends Colorado’s voter data to the feds.

“There’s confusion, there’s hysteria,” says Amber McReynolds, the director of elections in Denver. In the past week her office has been flooded with calls and foot traffic. Denver has seen a 2,150 percent increase in voters cancelling their registration in recent days. There were 180 on July 6 alone.

“In over 12 years of administering elections I never expected to see a day in the office where we would have more withdrawals than new registrations— and that happened yesterday,” she told The Colorado Independent. “So, it’s real.”

In Arapahoe County, a mix of rural ranches and suburbia southeast of Denver, elections officials say they’ve seen an uptick in voters casting off their franchise.
“Which is frustrating,” says Matt Crane, who heads up the elections office there. So far this whole year, 365 voters un-registered, he says after crunching the numbers. Roughly 42 percent of those came in the past week alone. “I think we all know why that is,” he says.

In the past week, at least 40 voters signed up for confidential status. “From what we hear … they don’t want their information to be a part of the commission’s work,” Crane says.

GOP Voter suppression at work. I don’t want my personal information in some federal database controlled by the Trump administration. They have no right to gather such information and I for one am glad my state has chosen not to comply.

And if anyone says, “What have you got to hide” - My reply is the “the same thing gun owners have to hide”…

The Firearm Owners’ Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) is a United States federal law that revised many provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968. As such, FOPA makes it illegal for the national government or any state in the country to keep any sort of database or registry that ties firearms directly to their owner.

My vote is my weapon against autocracy regardless of what administration is in the White House.

This is very strange. First of all, the federal government already has a lot of this information. The Social Security Administration allocates and keeps track of people’s SS#s and is on the federal level. The IRS also has those records. The Post Office maintains records of where people move to. Etc. So all this information is already in the hands of the feds.

Sompresumably people are concerned about their voting records, when and for whom they voted. Well, that should already be private, because the vote is supposed to be secret. No one should have that information, and it should not be connected to one’s voter registration.

So what could people be concerned about? I view this action as a good thing: I would like to see the whole voter fraud issue, which has been coming up for many decades, laid to rest. I din’t want a centralized registry, but we do have to start somewhere, and we do need a way to assure the integrity of the voter rolls.

If I register to vote in my new residence, nothing happens to my old registration. I am on two rolls. I could theoretically vote under both registrations.

There should be a system whereby the old place is notified of my move *automatically. *

If the feds look at the current records and asks each state to sort them out, or looks at the records and sorts out all the duplicate registrations and then turns the issue back to the states to maintain, that would be great.

And if we could figure out a way to get dead people off the rolls, that would be great too

*"There’s confusion, there’s hysteria,” says Amber McReynolds, the director of elections in Denver. In the past week her office has been flooded with calls and foot traffic. Denver has seen a 2,150 percent increase in voters cancelling their registration in recent days. There were 180 on July 6 alone.

“In over 12 years of administering elections I never expected to see a day in the office where we would have more withdrawals than new registrations— and that happened yesterday,” she told The Colorado Independent. “So, it’s real.”* ------

I didn’t see the article ever mention that these are illegals from Mexico who swell the Democrat voting ranks but fear deportation under this administration.
So of course the liberal media’s gonna spin this stuff.

Sorry Obama, but non-citizens should not participate in our elections anyhow.
Good on Colorado cooperating w the administration on this. Not sorry it makes illegals nervous.

The bigger question is that you know this is information will be run against some other database. We know that databases in general, especially public ones are full of errors. Are we going to use double registering in different districts as proof of voter fraud? People rarely deregister in the place they left and register in their new location. What list of illegal immigrants are you going to compare this against? There are plenty of Jose Rodriguez’s out there.

Sorry but this all reeks of an Administration that legitimately won, but can’t get over losing the popular vote and assumes the difference was fraud. We have a highly distributed voting system of 435 congressional districts, each state maintains their own voter roles. This level of fraud would require immense coordination to push a vast number of them over the edge enough, especially those who went Democrat as a reasonable extrapolation could conclue. US elections have few examples, especially federal, of real fraud; certainly not enough to matter aside from notorious things like Tammany Hall.

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GOP Voter suppression at work. I don’t want my personal information in some federal database controlled by the Trump administration. They have no right to gather such information and I for one am glad my state has chosen not to comply.

And if anyone says, “What have you got to hide” - My reply is the “the same thing gun owners have to hide”…

The Firearm Owners’ Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) is a United States federal law that revised many provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968. As such, FOPA makes it illegal for the national government or any state in the country to keep any sort of database or registry that ties firearms directly to their owner.

My vote is my weapon against autocracy regardless of what administration is in the White House.

More liberal hypocrisy!

United States citizens must undergo federal background checks before exercising their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It is an intrusive and often time-consuming process. It’s extremely difficult for a person who happens to have a common last name (like Smith or Jones) to get FBI approval to exercise a Constitutional right.

All a potential voter needs to do is fill out a very simple form or even worse, just check a box when applying for a driver’s license. There are no checks performed. Little to nothing is done to verify the voter’s status.

So don’t even try to compare the two issues.

Voter fraud is rampant in this country.

It’s about time that we admit the problem and finally do something to fix it!

And as far as your so-called “voter suppression” goes:
I am sick and tired of having my legitimate, legal vote negated by someone else’s illegal and fraudulent vote. That’s the real voter suppression that’s happening all over the country.

I didn’t see the article ever mention that these are illegals from Mexico who swell the Democrat voting ranks but fear deportation under this administration.
So of course the liberal media’s gonna spin this stuff.

So where did you get the information that those withdrawing are illegals from Mexico?
DId the election officials release the identities of those withdrawing?

Where are you getting this from, especially the level that this matters?

Obviously, you’ve never heard of a place called Chicago.

The city whose motto is “vote early and often.”

And what level “matters” anyway?

Is it perfectly acceptable if only a few votes are fraudulent? Are we supposed to accept it if only a few hundred or a few thousand in any one state, or a few hundred thousand nationwide, dead people are still casting ballots? Is it acceptable that only a few people are voting multiple times in multiple places?

Tell me: what number of fraudulent votes do you consider to be tolerable?

I didn’t see the article ever mention that these are illegals from Mexico who swell the Democrat voting ranks but fear deportation under this administration.
So of course the liberal media’s gonna spin this stuff.

Sorry Obama, but non-citizens should not participate in our elections anyhow.
Good on Colorado cooperating w the administration on this. Not sorry it makes illegals nervous.

Again, where are you getting this information from? Why is the assumption that, if this were a real issue, some wouldn’t register Republican? Also, if this is such a big help for the Democrats, why did the Republicans make so many gains?

The record amount that Trump won the electoral vs lost the popular is not due to voter fraud period. Trump won by the rules of our system fair and square, why the continued fascination? If not the Democrats should be more interested in this topic given the fairly small margins some influential districts went by.

United States citizens must undergo federal background checks before exercising their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It is an intrusive and often time-consuming process. It’s extremely difficult for a person who happens to have a common last name (like Smith or Jones) to get FBI approval to exercise a Constitutional right.

It is possible to avoid the background check altogether. The check is to affirm that the purchase is not being made in violation of existing state and/or federal law. The check is on the spot in 90% of cases. A “default” green light is given if a determination cannot be made within three days.

So don’t even try to compare the two issues.

Cartainly not. The consequences of a single individual illegally casting a vote are minimal. The consequences of a single individual illegally using a firearm can be terribly grave. There is no comparison.

Voter fraud is rampant in this country.

:rolleyes:

And as far as your so-called “voter suppression” goes:
I am sick and tired of having my legitimate, legal vote negated by someone else’s illegal and fraudulent vote. That’s the real voter suppression that’s happening all over the country.

In reality we have a well-documented and continuing history of voter suppression in this country. You may not care about that and may only care about “my … vote”. But we formulate policy and law to have the best effect for all.

United States citizens must undergo federal background checks before exercising their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It is an intrusive and often time-consuming process. It’s extremely difficult for a person who happens to have a common last name (like Smith or Jones) to get FBI approval to exercise a Constitutional right.

All a potential voter needs to do is fill out a very simple form or even worse, just check a box when applying for a driver’s license. There are no checks performed. Little to nothing is done to verify the voter’s status.

So don’t even try to compare the two issues.

Voter fraud is rampant in this country.

It’s about time that we admit the problem and finally do something to fix it!

And as far as your so-called “voter suppression” goes:
I am sick and tired of having my legitimate, legal vote negated by someone else’s illegal and fraudulent vote. That’s the real voter suppression that’s happening all over the country.

Why do we have a second amendment if not to protect ourselves from the kind of government suppression you see happening in Putin’s Russia.

Voting is no different. It’s up to the individual states to guarantee the integrity of their elections, not the White House. The Trump administration and GOP would like nothing better than to solidify their grip on power by going after our vote.

There is no evidence of the kind of voter fraud you describe. It’s all a hoax invented by the GOP and their big money doners to make it harder for those in the opposition to vote. Now they want to create a national voter database so they can more easily identify dissidents.

This is about protecting our right to hold elected representatives accountable by nonviolent means. Currently, all three branches of the Fed government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial are controlled by a political party that lost the popular vote, but was able to seize power by manipulating the electoral college, gerrymandering & voter suppression, and stealing a supreme court seat.

In Colorado, ‘confusion,’ ‘hysteria,’ and voters unregistering at some local election officesOne local election head: “If you de-register, they win.”

…

Voters who fear their personal information heading to the hands of an administration they don’t trust have looked to a voter version of life hacks to thwart it.

Election officials across the state are reporting a spike in voters requesting confidential status. Others are unregistering altogether with plans to sign back up after July 14 when Williams sends Colorado’s voter data to the feds.

“There’s confusion, there’s hysteria,” says Amber McReynolds, the director of elections in Denver. In the past week her office has been flooded with calls and foot traffic. Denver has seen a 2,150 percent increase in voters cancelling their registration in recent days. There were 180 on July 6 alone.

“In over 12 years of administering elections I never expected to see a day in the office where we would have more withdrawals than new registrations— and that happened yesterday,” she told The Colorado Independent. “So, it’s real.”

In Arapahoe County, a mix of rural ranches and suburbia southeast of Denver, elections officials say they’ve seen an uptick in voters casting off their franchise.
“Which is frustrating,” says Matt Crane, who heads up the elections office there. So far this whole year, 365 voters un-registered, he says after crunching the numbers. Roughly 42 percent of those came in the past week alone. “I think we all know why that is,” he says.

In the past week, at least 40 voters signed up for confidential status. “From what we hear … they don’t want their information to be a part of the commission’s work,” Crane says.

GOP Voter suppression at work. I don’t want my personal information in some federal database controlled by the Trump administration. They have no right to gather such information and I for one am glad my state has chosen not to comply.

And if anyone says, “What have you got to hide” - My reply is the “the same thing gun owners have to hide”…

The Firearm Owners’ Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) is a United States federal law that revised many provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968. As such, FOPA makes it illegal for the national government or any state in the country to keep any sort of database or registry that ties firearms directly to their owner.

My vote is my weapon against autocracy regardless of what administration is in the White House.

The Government already has all that information on everyone!! God Bless, Memaw

Is it perfectly acceptable if only a few votes are fraudulent? Are we supposed to accept it if only a few hundred or a few thousand in any one state, or a few hundred thousand nationwide, dead people are still casting ballots? Is it acceptable that only a few people are voting multiple times in multiple places?

Tell me: what number of fraudulent votes do you consider to be tolerable?

My answer is “zero.”

Would you scour your near perfect lawn for every dead blade of grass? As I suspected you could only reply with tropes. If you know anything about Engineering, safety, and the like you will know there’s always a level of acceptable risk. It is impossible to create a perfect system. Even the 100,000 level you propose is 0.0775% of the 2016 vote. Tell me how that changes anything.

Tell me: what number of fraudulent votes do you consider to be tolerable?
My answer is “zero.”

Your answer is simplistic.

There are two issues that need to be take into account: costs and unintended consequences. I think that the latter, given the history of voter suppression in this country, is most important. Any proposed fraud prevention measure must be tested against its ostensibly unintended effect it has in suppressing the vote of legitimate voters. What is the balance? For me the potential of fraud, deterred by strong penalties against it, is of lesser consequence than deny the vote to people legitimately entitled to it.