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DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003Fri, 09 Dec 2016 11:30:22 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7By: mikenmildhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047979
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:57:34 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047979DPF’s extract from the VUP blurb is a little lengthy so I’ll condense it further:
‘…chapters written by participants from other parties, including … ACT…Other contributors examine the images and ‘brands’ of New Zealand’s political parties and their leaders…chapters from the leaders of the…unsuccessful ‘Vote for Change’…’

To know more, barring pre-publication reviews, you might have to wait until publication on 30 November. You should be able to look at it if you live near a book shop, possibly even checking the contents page before considering purchase. You may even be able to see a contents page and a sample online. This could be called ‘browsing’, but I do not think it is the same as reading it for free.

Reserving it at your public library might well be a form of reading it for free, unless you regard the collective purchasing of books by a local authority as an intolerable form of socialism.

No word yet on whether the ACT view is authored by Don Brash or John Banks – perhaps it has been penned on their behalf by Paul Goldsmith.

]]>By: Nick Khttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047962
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:17:06 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047962Typical of a dishonest leftie to say I could browse for free in a bookshop. I expected nothing less actually. And no, I won’t browse
“for free”.
]]>By: mikenmildhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047834
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:01:54 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047834My pleasure. Have you read any of the previous books of this series?
]]>By: Keahttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047831
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:58:59 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047831Thanks for reinforcing the point made in my post mikenmild.
]]>By: mikenmildhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047823
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:36:52 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047823Feel free to post a short review here of the last book you read Kea. Just the text, you don’t have to try and copy the pictures over.
]]>By: Keahttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047820
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:33:05 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047820

Not much chance of any Kiwiblog commenter reading this book,

mikenmild, I think I can speak for everyone, when I say how impressed I am by the fact you can read a book.

How do you remain so unpretentious with your incredible intellect?

]]>By: mikenmildhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047818
Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:26:35 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047818You could browse in a bookshop. Do you need directions to one?
]]>By: Nick Khttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047436
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:59:58 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047436Is anyone able to let us know who were the ACT candidates spoken to and what they said? I have no desire to buy the book but would like to know what this part said.
]]>By: eszetthttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047398
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:04:54 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047398

Reid (12,190) Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Lest anyone misunderstand, I don’t like MMP very much.

This is because it was introduced to Germany after WWII to ensure another Hitler would never arise, and its architecture makes extremes impossible, which means a country foolish or unfortunate enough to suffer it, is condemned to the middle path, forever.

Actually, that’s nonsense. The 5% hurdle was introduced to prevent small fractions and extremist from entering parliament. And federal system with an upper house.

MMP per se had little to do with it and it is actually a lot closer to the system used in the Weimar Republic (proportional representation without a hurdle) than say FPP. MMP is merely a very good democratic system, no matter how much you jump up and down about it.

As you pointed out it is a system that will limit extremists, but I am not sure why you think that is a bad thing.
Unless of course, you think democracy is bad and you wish that would change.

]]>By: mikenmildhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047350
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:23:48 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047350Not much chance of any Kiwiblog commenter reading this book, let alone reviewing it or making any sensible comment on its contents. There is one of these published after each general election by the VUW political scientists; they go back at least 40 years.
Good luck getting Cameron Slater to write a book review, backster. Has he ever reviewed a book? Has he ever read a whole book?
I think DPF might be able to make a decent stab at a review. At least he has said he will buy it; which is part of journey towards possessing a book, reading it, understanding it and responding.
]]>By: Reidhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047329
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:44:13 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047329I bet none of that is in “Kicking the Tyres.”
]]>By: Reidhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047327
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:39:21 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047327Lest anyone misunderstand, I don’t like MMP very much.

This is because it was introduced to Germany after WWII to ensure another Hitler would never arise, and its architecture makes extremes impossible, which means a country foolish or unfortunate enough to suffer it, is condemned to the middle path, forever.

This of course prevents feats of brilliance, which always go against conventional wisdom. And no political system should ever mitigate that possibility, that’s grave folly. Yet here we are. Now it’s locked in, forever.

And like I said above, those pricks in Parliament for their own selfish purposes made damn sure the whole debate never happened. How dare they. Who do they think they are, and why didn’t the media do its job, either? But fact is, neither of these “sacred watchdogs,” did a credible job. With our democracy.

How dare they.

]]>By: Reidhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/kicking_the_tyres.html/comment-page-1#comment-1047297
Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:21:59 +0000http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68303#comment-1047297Kicking the Tyres includes a special section on the MMP referendum, with chapters from the leaders of the pro- and anti- groups – the ‘Campaign for MMP’ and the unsuccessful ‘Vote for Change’

It’ll be a fucking thin chapter. What’s the bet there’s no section on how all the MP’s betrayed the entire country by staying quiet for simply ages on the fact there was any such thing as a referendum and by failing to provide anything near enough information on the alternatives to make people as aware as they needed to be of this complex but vital topic prior to the vote, thereby proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the entire Parliament actually believes it’s not our democracy, it’s theirs.

In this socialist paradise? Don’t hold your breath.
The Blues might do better next season. But don’t know if I’ll get season tickets again like this year.

My bitch about Jon Johansson, and much of commentariat, is that he’s a sneaky fifth columnist. These people wax lyrical about democracy and debate and demand kudos for being the at vangard of, and defenders of, free speech but in general they frame debate to suit their own policy-political choices. Watch hour titchy Johansson gets when he shares a panel with a right-wing panelist.

i bet her(? cant actually remember either actually) section will be all about diversity and being ‘elected’ as a disabled person, and about how horrible the govt was for not giving them more money the moment they asked becuase they could not use the 57000 hours already paid for by us for her/him.

DPF might consider this a must buy, but hes a masochist for reading the trite from the same tired people.