Yeh so that shows how good the master has been at not being caught in the act

DOCTOR WHO ONE

November 7th, 2014 - 4:40pm

I don’t believe Missy the Master.

What if she’s merely a puppet ? and the one pulling the strings who’s really behind all this Promised Land business is actually . . . .

Seb – The REAL Master !!.

It was true of series 1. Your ment to think Simon Pegg’s Editor was the bad guy of ‘The Long Game’ but it was really the Mighty Jagrofess, but it seems it was the Daleks who was the real evil behind what was going on 100 years earlier in ‘The Long Game’ before the events of ‘Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways’ take place, since they waited for for centures and the Daleks was around during the Long Game episode, only they was unseen by Earth during the events of that episode.

That is a very good theory you’ve proposed. I think that there’s a good chance Missy is the real Master, however I do have my doubts… Moffat made it far to easy for people to guess. And she had such a quick reveal, nothing to build it up. In fact, I beat if you could ask the Doctor who he thought it was after the whole “Time lady you abandoned” speech, even he would have said The Rani. So Seb is the REAL Master, or Missy is only an anaglamation of the Master, like the Valyard is of the Doctor.

Also, it does make you think, if the Master was male though all of his regenerations, why turn female just to trick the Doctor? He wouldn’t have recognised him anyway!

Zeitgeis

November 5th, 2014 - 9:17pm

Bummer. I didn’t know Doctor Who is going to end. I am very sad. Is there no chance it will be revived with a different show runner?

Series finale doesn’t mean the show is ending. Here in the UK we call what you call a “season” a “series”.

Doctor Stu

November 4th, 2014 - 6:23pm

This is the first time I’ve taken into consideration that some young children watch doctor who but won’t these children be a little traumatised to see cybermen emerging from people’s graves if they have say lost a relative or friend

I agree, while it is an interesting concept, I can understand fully that it will probably be terrifying for young kids

Anonymous

November 5th, 2014 - 10:30am

Isn’t the point of doctor who to terrifie and besides if that did happen it would be no different from a zombie or vampire movie

RORY DOCTOR RIVER POND

November 5th, 2014 - 12:34pm

I agree with Doctor Stu, the BBC have had complaints over it and it’s not a nice thought

Doctor Stu

November 5th, 2014 - 5:28pm

I’m not saying it should be complained about because I’m absolutely fine with it in my opinion the more disturbing the better but is just thinking of young children who don’t quite yet understand how death works

The five doctors

November 6th, 2014 - 9:42pm

Can’t see why people complain. First the kiss between Vastra and Jenny was just CPR mouth to mouth and this is just completely fictional

The Moffat Paradox

November 6th, 2014 - 10:41pm

If it’s getting darker and any way more disturbing again its just taking Who back in the Capaldi era to it’s earlier roots.What I for one have pined for.Always found it irksome calling the series from it’s earliest days a “childrens programme” when the Who universe it at it’s best and most fascinating deals with disturbing ideas and death and destruction;especially the prospect of MASS death and destruction before the Doctor saves the day.

Fiona Ting

November 4th, 2014 - 3:15pm

I think it is very important gor all the fan to know what happened to doctor in this story

This trailer is teasing what I am hoping to be a spectacular finale! The Cybermen seem to be initiating their conquest,U.N.I.T have been tasked with containing Missy/Mistress/Master, and the Doctor and Clara can be seen in a graveyard! While I have no theories or ideas on what may happen in the finale,I have just considered horrible possibility relating to the Doctor and Clara’s presence in the graveyard.Remember how last ep Missy said all the graves of Earth were about to give birth? I think that since she means Cybermen will emerge from the graves,we could see Amy and Rory’s grave as well as Clara’s mum’s grave burst open to reveal the what were the remains of these three people now encased within Cyber suits as Cybermen! While it would explain why both the Doctor and Clara are in a graveyard,it probably be more morbid and dark than anything we have seen in series 8 thus far!

For some reason I thought Amy and Rory’s graves were in Manhattan. Why would The Doctor go back and see them open and put himself through more pain?

The Thirteenth Doctor

November 8th, 2014 - 8:23am

Well, as he is in a airplane , he could be going to america to see Amy and Rory’s graves as I know the Doctor could never forgive himself if he let them become Cybermen.

Obsie

November 8th, 2014 - 10:07am

That still doesn’t make any sense since he could easily “park” the TARDIS somewhere close to visit them. Besides why only two people , he may as well pop back and see everyone from Earth who’s ever travelled with him? Apart from that why bother putting it in the story in the first place; it’s too irrelevant to the main plot.

Justyn

November 4th, 2014 - 9:22am

Just a thought,in Dark Water they mention Dr Skarosa,which in the name you can clearly see Skaro the daleks home planet.So will the daleks be making an appearance in Death in Heaven?Also in a teaser trailer posted on here on July 4th shows the Doctor being exterminated down a phone and that has not been in the series yet.
Whatever happens I am sure looking to it roll on Saturday.

I doubt the daleks will appear as it makes more sense for missy to be working with the cybermen as they are an army and Will follow a leader where as daleks are not as suggestible as cybermen and would not work with a time lady/lord

paddy

November 5th, 2014 - 2:05pm

Doctor Stu, I think you’ll find that the Master and Daleks were allies in The Pertwee story Frontier in Space

The Moffat Paradox

November 7th, 2014 - 2:39pm

In the Pertwee era he sided with (Or tried to side with or even control if he could) Autons,Axons,Kronos(The Time Monster),The Daemons and Sea Devils as well as the Daleks.Though this latest version of the Cybermen would presumably still have a Cyberleader/Planner and leadership from Missy/The Master wouldn’t be assented to unless they thought they would gain more from it.

Often the Master has had cause to have second thoughts about choice of allies and side with the Doctor against them if only for reasons of self preservation.Evil meglomaniac Gallifreyeans seem to never learn!

This finale is the first in a VERY long time in which I actually dont want to watch it knowing too much beforehand.

Gallifrey Will Rise Again

November 3rd, 2014 - 10:50pm

I’d love the idea that we’ve all been fooled and the master is infact chris Addison who needs the doctors/timelord DNA to escape the nethersphere. Which could explain the awkward and yet hilarious kiss scene between missy and the doctor.

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