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Good to hear... but... will it come out in scandinavia this time? Will it get a disc release? or is it like guilty gear? How about updates, will they even come to the european version? And good thing that there is no dlc characters in extend, since those would likely not be available in europe...

And on top of that, the season pass and pre-order, retailer specific dlc, just end of putting me totally of from buying this game.
A shame, as i loved asylum and city, but city was not a step in the right direction. Asylum is the best batman game, and it seems like we will never get a better one. Reply0

Great. Now we need to hear that they also don't have pre-order dlc, retailer specific dlc, season pass at wb prices, season pass with pre-order dlc, 3+ "editions", microtransactions... then, and only then MAYBE i will look at your game. (yes i was really disappointed by unity). Reply+9

@muro The machines are capable of doing 1080p/30fps... it's the developers that constantly push the hardware more than they are able to do. Apparently most developers think visual fidelity > smooth gameplay.
Notice how this very complaint always comes up, in every generation? Reply+8

@F.Rod. "How easily we forget...
I guess you don't remember when Sony presented Killzone 2 on PS3 launch?
I guess you don't remember Killzone on PS4, Sony claiming it to be 1080p/60fps?
I guess you don't remember Infamous PS4 bullshots?
I guess you don't remember Sony promising Driveclub for PS+ when released?"

Thing is, i do remember, and i remember the extreme backlash as well. Do you remember the ps3 launch at all?
And you keep bringing up driveclub. Did you not visit any game journalistic website at that time? Because i sure as hell remember they reported on it.

"BTW
"Again, i need some links. And remember, it's not sony if it's a developer/publisher ;) Show me where sony did this, and no one mentioned it anywhere."

Do you realise how stupid that is? How am I suppose to give you a link if no one mentioned it. If no one mentioned it, there is no link.
* facepalm and shakes head *"

Yes i do realize that, which was my point exactly. You act like it's only ms that get's shit, but the fact is people notice when others do as well and give the proper amount of shit to them as well. Do you really think i wanted you to post a link to something that has no link?... read between the lines ;)

"What I'm trying to point out is, when Microsoft does something, all hell breaks loose. When Sony, Nintendo (or other companies) do something, people (and so called gaming journalists) easily forget and move on. "

This is in no way true... it doesn't matter who does it, "hell breaks loose" no matter what... but we do move on, like we will with this. Reply-2

@F.Rod. "The bias of the media against Microsoft this gen is unbelievable. I've already seen this article in 3 or 4 different sites. "

Yeah, how dare different sites post the same news! Only one site should be allowed to post a news story!!!

"Where are the articles when Sony posts screens of games in 1080p, and those games are not 1080p on the PS4? "

That happens often? Links please.

"Where are the articles when Sony posts gameplay videos of games in 1080p/60fps, and those games are not 1080p/60fps on the PS4? "

Again, i need some links. And remember, it's not sony if it's a developer/publisher ;) Show me where sony did this, and no one mentioned it anywhere.

"Every company uses bullshots to promote their games... only Microsoft gets bashed?"

Not at all... have you been living under a rock? Developers constantly get called out for doing this. You may just have on some ms colored glasses, so you see every negative news about xbox as slander etc.

"Damm... I'm still waiting for my PS+ Driveclub version. No article?"

Again, there has been plenty on that front, why keep posting about that when there is no news on it? Come on, use your head.

"I have no love for Microsoft but gaming journalism is in the crapper..."

Why? Because they post industry related news stories?
MS did something stupid and was forced to say sorry, that is news worthy and should therefore be posted, not matter if you agree or not! Reply+16

@BellyFullOfHell Pretty damn fast actually. I buy both disc and digital, and being that some of these games take up close to (or over) 50GB each, it doesn't take many games to fill that measly 500GB. On top of that it takes space when you record videos, and it's not fun to constantly delete things and redownload them.

Hence why i bought and installed a 2TB HDD, should hold up nicely, for a while... :P Reply-1

@WorldScaper
It's not ms or sony, it's the publishers. They run a business and setting release dates are a big part of it, love it or hate it. Some are more reasonable than others, but it is what it is, there are shareholders etc. to be aware of. They are in it for profit, nothing else, remember that. Reply+8

@Ranger101 He was referring to the part where it says; Claptastic Voyage DLC, was completed to late to be included. Hence his reply.

@fatto47 It's really weird to chose that imo, why would you? We live in an internet age, and the consoles only benefit from it, greatly.

Now i have no problem at all with patches, but i will admit this is an insane size for a day 1 patch, especially on the xbox one. As someone said earlier, you should be able to download such patches without the game, so you can have it ready for when you get the game. Reply+5

@zzkj You go girl!
If release dates are kept, you will get it on wednesday, maybe even at midnight. But then you have to go home and install game, download patch and then play... while those who bought digital could have pre-loaded the game and started at midnight.

Getting a game quick is not the most important part of going digital. I will gladly wait for it to download, because it's easy and no disc swapping required.
Where digital fails is price and not being able to lend anyone the game (unless you share accounts). Reply0

@Cappy Huh? Online, gaming or patching, is a part of this generation, just accept it.
There is nothing wrong with patches and/or updates, as long as it's not paid DLC (that's another discussion entirely).

Stop being afraid of patches. Let's take the fight to where it really needs to be instead. Reply-2

@Zerobob It's most likely the same people who will bitch if a game get's delayed.
Out of all the bad things from last gen and the current one, DLC, pre-order "bonuses", useless gimmicky OS updates etc. - patches seems to be the lesser one. I would rather have a day one patch than any of the other things. Reply-2

@bigfriendlygamer They already said a new god of war is in development. And i think it's only gow3 this time, because the other 2 has already been remastered for ps3. Gow1 and 2 would most likely require a remake instead of a remaster. Reply+2

@markmitt You can't get a refund for not being able to play an online game offline... ok?
second, you will not, or it should be, you should not be able to get a refund from something you have used, and you have probably used this game as much as the typical whiner... more than 7 days in game play time, which is far more than a usual game gives you btw.

This is normal in mmo's, and you guys constantly seem to make destiny out to be an mmo, so why are you so shocked this is happening? seriously? - just move on if it bothers you that much... plenty of other games to play honestly. Reply-3

@Jimjamyaha No, ms is only publishing tomb raider... nintendo did a lot more. Also sony is helping capcom making sfv, how exactly is yet to be revealed, but since they said it would never appear on other consoles it's liekly they actually funded some dev. time- either is not like this deal at all... and that is why gamers are annoyed at this! Reply+1

@richyroo Nope, halo will not come to ps4... and as if you can just remove the biggest thing for these companies in your "battle" of the companies... sales matter and sony is demolishing ms right now. Reply0

@obidanshinobi I don't agree at all. I think it's what side of the fence you land on, then you look at critique at a more negative angle than you would had you chosen the other "side". Just look at how many negative votes comments get in this thread, when someone says they don't think this product serves any need since TV's have said feature build in. No negativity towards xbox or ms yet a lot of you seem to read it that way. Reply0

@obidanshinobi I get that, but that happens with every console or game...
But again i ask, how is that related to the first comments?
Saying you don't understand the appeal of a product taht does the same as every modern TV it self, that is in no way a a hater or whiner post.

I feel the same, i simply don't understand the appeal of a product that does what a tv does it self. I could understand it if people use it on old televisions, but last time i had a tv without "snap" function was an old 15" tube tv (non-hd) as a kid... and would snap on such a device even matter? Does xbox one even support those tv's? Reply-4

@internisus I clicked on the video and just random put the cursor at a place in the video and the guy complained about the time it takes to go through doors... it was too fast :O - something that miniscule he calls a problem... as far as i am concerned that video is null and void! Reply+8

@BastoJ The parity is only good if it doesn't include downgrading the version for the more powerfull machine. There is no good effort behind limiting a experience on one console just because the other one can't achieve the same.

@osu You underestimate nintendo fans... they have bought revision upon revision for years... so my guess is this will sell a lot, which is unfortunate because nintendo will refuse to change that way. Reply+1

It's one thing to make revisions, but to make one that is needed to play a game is not so great, especially since the naming of the new is so close to the original name. A lot of parents will must likely make a mistake and buy a new 3ds game for normal 3ds console.
Nintendo should focus on making a good handheld in the first place and after one revision stop and look into making a completely new console AND a better naming scheme.

I used to like handheld nintendo gaming, but i am fed up with the constant revisions and now making one mandatory for a new game and it's not even a completely new console! Reply0

@PSfourskin A phone is not the same as a console, even if it's handheld.
Handheld consoles do games and maybe a little bit extra. Phones do a lot more than only being a phone AND people have them with them all the time, the same can't be said about consoles, again even if it is handheld.

A lot of gamers are kids that rely on parents to buy them consoles, and they do not care about new revisions nor new generation, generally speaking.

And every person who owns a phone don't buy the new model each time and if they don't they are not excluded for make phone calls or the like. Reply+5

@spectrumfox But we see an insane amount of xbots that suddenly don't care about resolutuion and fps. But now in this article they suddenly do and try to paint sony fans as the most annyoing fanboys... and then the update comes and poof! ;) Reply+17

@Murton Did you miss the point where blizzard said that the DF article actually pointed out something they didn't know? Had it not been for this article, blizzard would not have patched this issue day one. So maybe you should use brain first keyboard second? Reply+11

@GamerFreak Anti consumer? It's a feature that we haven't had before and now we have it and you call it anti consumer even though it gives consumer more ways of playing games? - Ofc. there had to be restrictions and this is like no big deal at all.
I would not be surprised at all if publishers could opt out of this as well, so ea, ubisoft and activision games are likely not going to support it... but time will tell. Reply+25