God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

Well, you're not wrong. I'm not saying that Mel Gibson isn't a douchebag but drug and rape a 13 year old girl? Why are you talking about old shiat? Get convicted of getting blown by a 12 year old boy? Big time producer Joel Silver will still work with you. Just don't be farking stupid enough to talk shiat about the Jews, not in Hollywood unless you want to produce your own films.

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

His problem lies with being a cranky drunk that goes on angry, racist, curse filled rants that get recorded and played for the world to hear. His ex girlfriend recorded him saying some nasty things, as did Joe Eszterhas.

Mel is a mean drunk that has made numerous racist rants that aren't limited to Jews.

However, I still think it's hilarious that he called that female cop "sugar tits"

logistic:If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news.

Horseshiat. I don't care if you're Daniel Day Lewis or Gary Oldman - you're not going to get work if you go off on a long drunken rants about those "rice-shiatting, slanty-eyed nips", which is pretty much what Gibson did about Jews. Multiple times. Then, trying to raise his stock, he decided to give us his views on women. You might have gotten away with that 20 years ago with the right audience, but not anymore.

Fark him. I like some of his movies, but he's one of the worst examples of a human being you can find in the civilized world.

Yet, I can't really think of a movie he has been in or made that I didn't enjoy.

That kind of hurts.

If you knew half the things that went on during the "Golden Age" of Hollywood and you let that affect your viewing habits, you'd never watch another movie again,

Too bad he wasn't around then, because you're right - he would've fit right in. Unfortunately societal norms have changed, and he's judged by current standards. And by today's standards, he's an abusive alcoholic mess.

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

Yeah, I mean, what could happen to the Jews if people start talking about how they're evil, Christ-killers or stuff like that? I mean, it's not like some crazy bastard could get into power and start killing six million of them or anything.

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

He ain't Australian. He was born in the US spent several years growing up in Australia and moved back to the US as a young adult.

shivashakti:logistic: God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

Yeah, I mean, what could happen to the Jews if people start talking about how they're evil, Christ-killers or stuff like that? I mean, it's not like some crazy bastard could get into power and start killing six million of them or anything.

What if, say, a jewish person created a great movie about his faith and about how bad Hitler was.

What would you say to Germans who begin complaining loudly and blackballing that jewish guy from the industry?

Then, after years of being shunned and passively aggressively railroaded, this jewish guy gets drunk and goes and says something like "farking germans, started so many wars!", what would you say then?

omeganuepsilon:shivashakti: logistic: God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

Yeah, I mean, what could happen to the Jews if people start talking about how they're evil, Christ-killers or stuff like that? I mean, it's not like some crazy bastard could get into power and start killing six million of them or anything.

What if, say, a jewish person created a great movie about his faith and about how bad Hitler was.

What would you say to Germans who begin complaining loudly and blackballing that jewish guy from the industry?

Then, after years of being shunned and passively aggressively railroaded, this jewish guy gets drunk and goes and says something like "farking germans, started so many wars!", what would you say then?

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

1. If you read what he screamed at his then g/f Mel also insulted Blacks & Latino's...that cuts away a good part of the movie going population.

2. Mel isn't Australian, he was born in the USA, his father moved his family to Australia to prevent his son's from being drafted!

He made successful movies outside of the system. He could have been a half black and half Jew survivor of the Holocaust and there's no way he wouldn't have been taken down. It just so happens that he was as much of a danger to himself as he was to the studio system.

omeganuepsilon:What if, say, a jewish person created a great movie about his faith and about how bad Hitler was.

What would you say to Germans who begin complaining loudly and blackballing that jewish guy from the industry?

Then, after years of being shunned and passively aggressively railroaded, this jewish guy gets drunk and goes and says something like "farking germans, started so many wars!", what would you say then?

I would say that this is a false equivalency.The Nazis did something unspeakably evil. They killed six million people.The Jews? What did they do to deserve this? So, in a world where the farking Holocaust is still within recent memory, Gibson feels like he has to include some throwaway line in one of the Gospels implicating the Jews for the death of Jesus.(Completely ignoring the fact that for Christians..without Jesus' death, salvation would not be possible.)

It was completely unnecessary to do this, but Mel Gibson did it...because he was raised by his father, a noted anti-Semite and Holocaust denier. I mean, really, Christians have been using this blood libel bullsh*t as an excuse for 2000 years to hate Jews, to disenfranchise them, to even kill them.

Can you understand why Jewish groups in Hollywood would protest and speak out against the inclusion of that line in his movie? There are Holocaust survivors still alive today. Nearly every American Jewish family has a family member (or more) that died in this.

If he got flack from the Jews over this, it was deservedly so. Mainstream Christianity no longer accepts the blood libel bullsh*t. So why include it?

Much like how I feel about Tom Cruise, I couldn't care less about his personality. Dude makes some amazing movies. So what if he's a douchebag? Have you ever met a person? They're almost all douchebags.

It's not that Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite so much for me, it's that he's a crazy drunken lunatic who terrorizes people. I've had a couple roommates like that and after one beats down your locked bedroom door, you sort of learn the personality type. The type you need to stay the fark away from.

shivashakti:omeganuepsilon: What if, say, a jewish person created a great movie about his faith and about how bad Hitler was.

What would you say to Germans who begin complaining loudly and blackballing that jewish guy from the industry?

Then, after years of being shunned and passively aggressively railroaded, this jewish guy gets drunk and goes and says something like "farking germans, started so many wars!", what would you say then?

I would say that this is a false equivalency.The Nazis did something unspeakably evil. They killed six million people.The Jews? What did they do to deserve this? So, in a world where the farking Holocaust is still within recent memory, Gibson feels like he has to include some throwaway line in one of the Gospels implicating the Jews for the death of Jesus.(Completely ignoring the fact that for Christians..without Jesus' death, salvation would not be possible.)

It was completely unnecessary to do this, but Mel Gibson did it...because he was raised by his father, a noted anti-Semite and Holocaust denier. I mean, really, Christians have been using this blood libel bullsh*t as an excuse for 2000 years to hate Jews, to disenfranchise them, to even kill them.

Can you understand why Jewish groups in Hollywood would protest and speak out against the inclusion of that line in his movie? There are Holocaust survivors still alive today. Nearly every American Jewish family has a family member (or more) that died in this.

If he got flack from the Jews over this, it was deservedly so. Mainstream Christianity no longer accepts the blood libel bullsh*t. So why include it?

Yes, we get it. You're victims. Thanks for the reminder.

The thing about TPOTC is, everybody other than the Romans in that movie are Jewish. According to the story, Jesus was set up to be killed by one particular group of peope known as the Pharisees. Yes, they were Jews. But so are all the good guys in the movie.

logistic:God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

MagSeven:logistic: God forbid someone not like Jews. Who gives a shiat? If he had said his problem lie with Asians, it would never have made the news. I'm kinda thinking there's bigger things going on in the world than what one Australian thinks of one group of people that harassed the fark out of him during the release of one of his films.

The only thing that sticks in my head about the Joe Eszterhas story is that Gibson may have a legitimate claim - there's no script. Even the stories about Eszterhas don't claim there's a script people are looking at. Joe Eszterhas may have been jerking Gibson around for over a year.

I don't get where this Mel makes amazing movies stuff comes from. I was just looking at imdb, in over a 30 year career we've got Braveheart, Lethal Weapon, Mad Max, a couple okay ones like Apocalypto and Ransom, and then a whole shiat load of stinkers.

I's still pay to see his movies. He is good at what he does. I'd be a little bitter too if the industry I worked in was so monopolized and worked with pure favoritism based on religion. He just vented a bit too much; and accounts are probably elaborated as well.

sn0wblind:I's still pay to see his movies. He is good at what he does. I'd be a little bitter too if the industry I worked in was so monopolized and worked with pure favoritism based on religion. He just vented a bit too much; and accounts are probably elaborated as well.

i did not realize his industry was dominated by women and black people. when did that happen?