18. Dolphins (5-4; No. 18): Having Darnold-Osweiler as the undercard to Rodgers-Brady II was like pulling a couple of schmoes out of the crowd before Creed-Balboa II.

19. Titans (4-4; No. 25): With a win in the bank over the Texans, the Titans could still win the division.

20. Lions (3-5; No. 17): The window is quickly closing.

21. Buccaneers (3-5; No. 20): The window is quickly closing.

22. Cowboys (3-5; No. 21): The window is quickly closing.

23. Jaguars (3-5; No. 22): The window is quickly closing.

24. Browns (2-6-1; No. 23): The window is nailed shut.

25. Broncos (3-6; No. 24): The Broncos need to go 5-2 to avoid the franchise’s first back-to-back losing seasons since 1971-72. In other words, the Broncos will have their first back-to-back losing seasons since 1971-72.

I hate to say it but I think the Pats should be number 1. Saint/Rams D is porous. The Pats D, while not great, has been improving. And their offense has shown it can keep up with anyone if need be. Im at the point that I almost hope they win it all if that would mean either Bill or Tom retires.

Lolz Mahomes is a great player no question, but half a season does not make someone “greatest of all time”. Come back once he’s maintained that level of excellence for minimum 10-15 years and has won 4+ Super Bowls and you might have a valid argument

KC has been great for sure. Will be interesting to see how the young QB fares later in the season. Right now he looks unstoppable. The Patriots really just had to out score them to beat them. Maybe someone can confuse him with defense, but he can just throw over it at the moment. A good chance they will have to play the Steelers again to get to the AFCCG. That could be a great one.

Finally nice to see the Saints getting the National recognition they deserve. Hopefully this will be the year Brees wins the MVP Award. He should have won it in 2009 but the voters “Appointed” the award to “Media Darling” Peyton Manning

I’m still calling a Patriots vs. Rams or Patriots vs. Saints super bowl. The problem with the Saints is that they struggle on the road against teams with a winning record. If push comes to shove and the Saints are forced to play the Rams in LA, I’ll give it to the Rams. Some people are hyping a Patriots vs. Chiefs match-up in the post-season. However, the Patriots might not have to play the Chiefs again if the Steelers go to Arrowhead and beat them in the post-season.

The Vikings defense showed up this week with 10 sacks against the lions. I’m happy with the ranking cause it doesn’t really matter. I hope they can keep it rolling against the surprisingly good bears in two weeks. The schedule looks pretty tough going forward.

Still not totally understanding the Chargers hype. Their six wins are Raiders, Browns, Bills, Niners, and two .500 teams. Their next three coming up however are Raiders, Broncos, Cardinals, so I suspect they’ll be sticking at No. 5 for awhile.

Chief’s fan here. Rank them as you please, 1 or 22 whatever. I am looking forward to at least a couple of playoff wins in the same season for a change. Hasn’t happened since 1993. ~sigh~. We DID have arguably the previous GOAT then, Joe Montana!

grumpysal says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Eagles, at .500, being placed in the top 10 says all you need to know about this season. There are only 3-4 good teams and everyone else is playing for their draft pick slot.
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Yeah, but anything can happen once you get into the playoffs, really. I mean, look at the Jags/NE game. The Jags look awful, but they still beat NE. They nearly did it last year in the playoffs, too. Heck, even the 7-9 Seahawks won a playoff game back in 2010-2011. No one thought the Eagles would do squat last year once they got to the playoffs without Wentz.

Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.

Please give us a power ranking of each team’s ownership. It would be interesting to see how it correlates with each team’s regular power ranking, but it might not win you a lot of goodwill with the teams you rank down the list.

pkrlvr says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.

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Packer fans are now asking for participation power rankings. 😛 Look, power rankings mean nothing expect filer for content on sites like this. But it is fun to see how they upset Packer fans now the Green Bay is in rebuild mode. And to think they have at least 2 to 3 more years of their rebuild ahead of them. Golden!

Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.
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Yea? an they also needed a kicker to miss 3 kicks to tie the vikings, needed a miracle comeback against the bears and needed to come back to beat a 1 win 49ers team at home with a back up QB…Packers record at end of season 7-9, record in packers fans heads, should be 12-4, 13-3 if not for a couple fumbles, a couple bogus ref calls against our team, an interception, missed field goals and general cold weather at leambeau

red says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:01 pm
Chiefs are too low. Chiefs have the GOAT Mahomes. Super Bowl bound.
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is there any team less scary in the post-season? they could go 15-1 and there’s nothing more inevitable than another meltdown in the playoffs.

They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.
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btw, did you catch that Pat fans? Packer fans think if Jones does not fumble the Packers win that game without a doubt. As just stated, their arrogance has them believing that fumble was the only reason the lost to NE and would have won if it did not happen.,

When the Chargers beat a team with a winning record, it will be the first time. We will find out who they really are in December when they have to face the Steelers, Bengals, Chiefs(again) and Ravens. But they should still finish 10-6 and be the five seed in the AFC.

Acid test coming for the Bears with 3 division games in less than two weeks. They have to be considered legit if they run the table there but that offense is way too flaky for anyone to count on that just yet.

cheeseisfattening says:
November 6, 2018 at 1:04 pm
pkrlvr says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.

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Packer fans are now asking for participation power rankings. 😛 Look, power rankings mean nothing expect filer for content on sites like this. But it is fun to see how they upset Packer fans now the Green Bay is in rebuild mode. And to think they have at least 2 to 3 more years of their rebuild ahead of them. Golden!

tinye67 says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:05 pm
Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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He’s a Viking homer, but he, like most people, also knows that by season-end the Packers will still remain the team to beat in the North Division. That may pose a problem for the “Win A SuperBowl Or Bust” plan the Vikings signed up for with Cousins. It’s all-or-nothing……..or it’s a full-blown bust. Purple!

“I hate to say it but I think the Pats should be number 1. Saint/Rams D is porous. The Pats D, while not great, has been improving. And their offense has shown it can keep up with anyone if need be. ”

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Agreed. The adjustments by their coaching staff to that defense are incredible. Mike Pettine actually called a legendary game for the Packers’ D Sunday night considering the players he was out and Rodgers made a Herculean effort on offense, but the Patriots cancelled all of that out with ingame adjustments (from Patterson as a running back to switching the coverages on Valdez-Scantling and Allison ingame). Brady did what he had to of course, but Belichick and his staff did some incredible behind the scenes work on the sidelines that deserves to be recognized.

pkrlvr
Nov 6, 2018, 12:53 PM EST
Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.

You could honestly do that with any team. When you start changing a couple plays each game to a different outcome every team in the league would be 11-5. The fact is, is that good teams don’t make crucial mistakes and bad teams do. A perfect example would be the Patriots/Bills Monday night game from last week. Buffalo was on the verge of cutting the Pats lead down to a 5 when they had a TD overturned and then threw a game ending Pick-6. Good teams don’t make crucial mistakes and bad teams do. Bill Parcells put it best “you are what your records says you are”

pkrlvr says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Interesting that the 3 win Packers are ahead of 5 teams with 4 or 5 wins.
Florio loves himself some Packers!
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Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble. Yes the record is not great, but it’s not like they haven’t been competitive with the best teams in the league. They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.
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Ah, my favorite argument of ‘if we didn’t lose, we would have won and then our record looks totally different’.

He’s a Viking homer, but he, like most people, also knows that by season-end the Packers will still remain the team to beat in the North Division
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It’s cool that you’re still saying that. By the end of this brutal 5 game stretch, you’ll be changing to your “ya, but the Vikings will lose in the playoffs” mantra. But for now? Stick with what you got.

I said Packers upside would be 3-2 in this 5 game stretch. They are currently 0-2. I’d like to change to 1-4 as their upside. 7-8-1 is your hopes this year, with a McCarthy firing. Nothing more.

When the Chargers beat a team with a winning record, it will be the first time. We will find out who they really are in December when they have to face the Steelers, Bengals, Chiefs(again) and Ravens. But they should still finish 10-6 and be the five seed in the AFC.
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They literally just beat a team with a winning record two days ago. I understand that Seattle doesn’t have a winning record now, but that’s because the Chargers beat them.

pkrlvr says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm
They’re possibly a missed field goal and two fumbles away from 6-2.
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More likely,
they are are a dropped INT, a missed FG and a ref gift on 4th & 19 from being 1-7.
The packers ONLY positive game to date is beating Buffalo.

Nothing triggers a skoltroll more than the word Packers in an article, any article.

I was reading a story on huffington post about production packers at a GE plant the other day and there were 50 comments posted about Erin Rodgers, McCarthy’s weight and a litany of hackneyed puns about people from Wisconsin.

by season-end the Packers will still remain the team to beat in the North Division. That may pose a problem for the “Win A SuperBowl Or Bust”
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A packers homer post.
And you are correct. By the end of the season, you will be bragging about the 2019-20 superbowl poll that will once again have the super bowl or bust thrust upon the lowly packers yet again, only to end in yet another epic FAIL.

But it is fun to see how they upset Packer fans now the Green Bay is in rebuild mode. And to think they have at least 2 to 3 more years of their rebuild ahead of them. Golden!

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Then why are you Viking fans still so focused on them? The Packers live rent free in all of your heads! Move on, especially since there is a new Top Dog in the NFCN, the Chicago Bears.
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Who let you out of the basement CAT!!!, back down stairs for you….

blah773 says:
November 6, 2018 at 1:12 pm
red says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:01 pm
Chiefs are too low. Chiefs have the GOAT Mahomes. Super Bowl bound.
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johngaltwho
Nov 6, 2018, 1:00 PM CST
Nothing triggers a skoltroll more than the word Packers in an article, any article.

I was reading a story on huffington post about production packers at a GE plant the other day and there were 50 comments posted about Erin Rodgers, McCarthy’s weight and a litany of hackneyed puns about people from Wisconsin.
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You were on a what post reading about what???

No team in the league has a tougher schedule than the Saints. There last 4 games were wins against division leaders and 3 of those were on the road…by a combined 60 points. Lets put it this way…there’s not a team in the league that is better than New Orleans…period.

It honestly amazes me just how triggered Barney fans get over this useless poll.
At a time they should be appreciating their team’s limited amount of success, all they can do is rant and lament about a Packers team, and where they should or shouldn’t reside on this goofy post.
It would be comical, if it wasn’t so pathetic and sad.

No team in the league has a tougher schedule than the Saints. There last 4 games were wins against division leaders and 3 of those were on the road…by a combined 60 points. Lets put it this way…there’s not a team in the league that is better than New Orleans…period.
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Saints lost to the Bucs… so……. Beat the Browns by 3… and the Ravens by 1. They did not warrant leap frogging the Chiefs. Period.

It honestly amazes me just how triggered Barney fans get over this useless poll.
At a time they should be appreciating their team’s limited amount of success, all they can do is rant and lament about a Packers team, and where they should or shouldn’t reside on this goofy post.
It would be comical, if it wasn’t so pathetic and sad.
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I’m pretty sure we’re reacting to Packer fans that continue to insist that the Packers are the “team to beat.” If that isn’t pathetic and sad, I don’t know what is.

I agree with the top 6, although I don’t agree that the Patriots may not lose again, including the playoffs. Chiefs are talented and getting better. Chargers…wow. Steelers are even improving from what was a dismal start of the season. I can’t get excited when I see their schedule. Texans before Watson worked out the rust. Anyone in the AFC East, barely beat Chiefs, Bears, etc. Still a long season.

Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
November 6, 2018 at 3:44 pm
wafflestomp says:
November 6, 2018 at 3:23 pm

It honestly amazes me just how triggered Barney fans get over this useless poll.
At a time they should be appreciating their team’s limited amount of success, all they can do is rant and lament about a Packers team, and where they should or shouldn’t reside on this goofy post.
It would be comical, if it wasn’t so pathetic and sad.
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I’m pretty sure we’re reacting to Packer fans that continue to insist that the Packers are the “team to beat.” If that isn’t pathetic and sad, I don’t know what is.

tqaztec says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:49 pm
The Packers are better than the Bears, Redskins, and Bengals. Maybe even the Eagles.

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Maybe you just don’t know any better, but the Redskins beat the Packers this season. I still think that the Eagles will take the division, unfortunately for me.

Possibly because they were a TM fumble away from probably beating the Rams and gave New England a stiff run right up until the Jones fumble.
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Yeah, blame it on the Jones fumble- right- because Rodgers throwing for a grand total of 15 yards in the fourth quarter couldn’t possibly have anything to do with losing Sunday night.

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Absolutely correct

This team finds ways to lose. It can’t overcome mistakes.

That comes from marginal talent and marginal coaching. Talent is marginal due to inexperience in my opinion. I like what the new GM has done so far but needs another year to purge the last few drafts.

Rodgers needs to get back to basics. He looks like he’s improvising on every play. Either from lack of talent around him, or in rut looking for the home run and not taking what’s given. The former is on Ted, the latter is on Mccarthy.

They will be a .500 ball club this year if the latter doesn’t get it together….

Patriots are rolling through the AFC (again) on the way to Atlanta, defense has really stepped up lately, and our offense just cant be stopped, maybe slowed down a little, but not completely stopped. Once all the weapons are In the Brady/Mcdaniel Arsenal healthy- Gronk, Gordon, Edelman, Hogan, Sony, TD white, Patterson, even Phillip Dorsett, and the wrinkles are continued being installed in the offense… get off the tracks the PATS ARE COMING.

I’ll be surprised if the Chargers even make it to the AFC championship game, and if they do they are welcome in Foxborough.

14. Packers (3-4-1; No. 13): Mike McCarthy’s ability to continue to be bailed out by Aaron Rodgers in 2019 hinges on whether Aaron Rodgers can bail out Mike McCarthy in 2018.

Despite the three wins this team is right where they belong… as long as Rodgers is still healthy, and if there defense can get back on the field and stay there without getting hurt. A run game might help a little too.. its much easier when a defense has to guess rather than just defend against Rodgers throwing darts the whole game across the field.

xiiprestige says:
November 6, 2018 at 12:05 pm
Even at 4 the Chiefs are to low.

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No knock on the Chiefs. They are a monster team this year, and certainly have a decent bid for the SB. But to move them up would mean moving someone else down and all three teams above them do belong there.

Agreed, Frank.
And as usual, I always regret my participation in it.
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Wafflestomp, that’s quite alright.
As a fan of an NFC North team and with no dog in this fight, I follow a lot of the back and forth between Viking and Packer fans and you are far from the worst.
Most of your posts, I’ve noticed, are usually reactionary, and I completely understand why. You can only listen to the Viking pablum for so long. Plus, more often than not, you make me chuckle.
A few of the Packer fans can be just as bad.
But, with all the Purples pretending to be someone they’re not and the rest of them with an unhealthy obsession anytime the Packers are mentioned in any way, I can see why there are battles.

Down 14 points, that kind of performance is not “giving New England a stiff run”.

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I didn’t reprint your entire pointless post, but as far as a few people have pointed out, I think you’ve gone a long way to proving how crazily obsessed you guys are with the Packers.
I’ve never been a big fan or believer in moral victories.
And it’s usually a stubborn fact that you are what your record says you are.
But it’s quite funny that you’d nitpick this statement when I’ve heard from a majority of your fan base that your team beat themselves when they lost to the Bills 27-6.

I am a Vikings fan and I hardly ever post on message boards, but I wanna ted to respond to this and say “amen, Frank!”. This happens all the time if there is even a whisper of a relationship to the Vikings or Packers in a story. It’s the same idiots from both sides that do it, too. I am just glad these few from both sides do not represent the larger fan base for either team.

I know these twits won’t stop…wish they would…but the only thing I can hope is people stop reacting to them.

Just so all of Patriot nation gets a clue : your stats mean nothing – NE needs to play at home – the last time they won on the road ????….. 2006 @ SD – a game they should have lost ….. stay arrogant…. you’ll get beat

robf2010 says:
November 6, 2018 at 1:40 pm
I don’t know why anyone thinks defense matters. The AFC and NFC CHAMPIONS combined for 1200 yards and 74 points last year in the Super Bowl. You don’t need defense to win in the NFL.
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It was possible for the Pats to have won that game if the Eagles D didn’t sack Brady to cause the game ending fumble. Defense still matters. Couple stops here or there matter when offenses are marching up and down the field. But I get your point with the rules favoring offenses so much the best defenses cannot stop the best offenses enough to win most games.

ak185 says:
November 6, 2018 at 1:29 pm
“I hate to say it but I think the Pats should be number 1. Saint/Rams D is porous. The Pats D, while not great, has been improving. And their offense has shown it can keep up with anyone if need be. ”

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Agreed. The adjustments by their coaching staff to that defense are incredible. Mike Pettine actually called a legendary game for the Packers’ D Sunday night considering the players he was out and Rodgers made a Herculean effort on offense, but the Patriots cancelled all of that out with ingame adjustments (from Patterson as a running back to switching the coverages on Valdez-Scantling and Allison ingame). Brady did what he had to of course, but Belichick and his staff did some incredible behind the scenes work on the sidelines that deserves to be recognized.

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But wait….isn’t it magic “systems” no one is smart enough to see or copy, all the invisible cheating, ref help every week, and dark alley payoffs from Kraft to Goodell? You mean, that’s not true? The Patriots are, and have been a…(gulp)…good team with a great quarterback that’s always well-coached???

It would make most of the nutjobs happier to believe in the silly fairy tales, of course. That’s how they’re able to put their heads on their pillows at night.

@ styro1 says:
November 6, 2018 at 7:29 pm
Las Vegas is looking to send the Raiders back to Oakland and are offering one hundred million dollars and moving costs. Oakland said we don’t want them either.

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How about sending them to Chernobyl? They wouldn’t know the difference between nuclear waste and the smelly garbage heap known as the RaiDUMPS

chessic4 says:
November 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm
I would be surprised if my Broncos beat the Colts, and they’ve already been crushed by the Jets.
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I’m just surprised that you own the Broncos. I didn’t realize the Bowlen’s got everything sorted out.

rutledge3197 says:
November 6, 2018 at 7:42 pm
Just so all of Patriot nation gets a clue : your stats mean nothing – NE needs to play at home – the last time they won on the road ????….. 2006 @ SD – a game they should have lost ….. stay arrogant…. you’ll get beat
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I don’t know what you’ve been smoking but you should stop immediately before you incur any more brain damage.