That game was pathetic. The lack of effort was staggering. I knew our d-line was weak, but that was sad. The defense also couldn't cover basic, fundamental tackling. There were guys out of position, DBs playing 5 yards off the receiver, and zero effort all around. I have been watching MSU football for 20+ years, and the last time I saw effort that poor was the 2008 game vs. Ole Miss, when the team had basically quit on Croom. Defensive coordinator Chris Wilson should have been fired immediately following that game. And for the first time in 4 years, I'm questioning Mullen.

You shouldn't be questioning Wilson and Mullen. This offense does it to almost everyone. Unless you've got players like Florida, LSU and Bama do, you've got little chance of slowing it down. Hell, even LSU gave up over 400 yards to us, we just made too many mistakes to beat them.

I remember in the early 2000s when OU and Texas Tech first started running it, they put up sick numbers on pretty much everyone in the Big 12 and opened a ton of eyes. Leach never had a (run/pass) QB like Johnny Football, either.

Crazy ending. I didn't think they were gonna pull it out. Texas A&M won't be easy, either. But the LSU game should keep the Tide from being overconfident.

Way better than last years game that's for sure!

I didn't understand LSU's DEF game plan on that last drive. McCarron wasn't struggling because he was having a bad day, it was due to LSU was playing excellent press coverage and being aggressive so it was baffling to see them play loose/prevent defense. Being ranked 5th in the nation, I don't know why LSU decided to play cautiously at the end. There was nothing really to lose. You want to make up for the embarrassing BCS game so they should've remained aggressive.

As for 'Bama, this had to humbling experience but also shows them playing a complete game from start to end regardless of stats or situation.

You shouldn't be questioning Wilson and Mullen. This offense does it to almost everyone. Unless you've got players like Florida, LSU and Bama do, you've got little chance of slowing it down. Hell, even LSU gave up over 400 yards to us, we just made too many mistakes to beat them.

I remember in the early 2000s when OU and Texas Tech first started running it, they put up sick numbers on pretty much everyone in the Big 12 and opened a ton of eyes. Leach never had a (run/pass) QB like Johnny Football, either.

It's been a problem all year. Wilson like running a "bend but don't break" defense, and I hate it. Receivers constantly have a huge cushion, and the defensive line has been useless all year. The line has single digit sacks between all of them. It's a shame, too, since the secondary is pretty good, but the best secondary is wasted if you can't get any pressure on opposing QBs. Troy and Tennessee put up huge numbers, and we got saved because they shot themselves in the foot.

I didn't understand LSU's DEF game plan on that last drive. McCarron wasn't struggling because he was having a bad day, it was due to LSU was playing excellent press coverage and being aggressive so it was baffling to see them play loose/prevent defense. Being ranked 5th in the nation, I don't know why LSU decided to play cautiously at the end. There was nothing really to lose. You want to make up for the embarrassing BCS game so they should've remained aggressive.

As for 'Bama, this had to humbling experience but also shows them playing a complete game from start to end regardless of stats or situation.

I was at the game last November - when Alabama looked like they were going to lose again last night, the same feeling came over me. Until the final drive, that is. But some of LSU's play calls were just odd. As Miles said at halftime, he should have kept some of them under his hat. I do have to hand it to LSU, though - they took the game right to Bama and almost came away with it.

I was at the game last November - when Alabama looked like they were going to lose again last night, the same feeling came over me. Until the final drive, that is. But some of LSU's play calls were just odd. As Miles said at halftime, he should have kept some of them under his hat. I do have to hand it to LSU, though - they took the game right to Bama and almost came away with it.

That fake field goal was ridiculous. Also, that early offensive pass interference call against Bama was 100% wrong.

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I didn't understand LSU's DEF game plan on that last drive. McCarron wasn't struggling because he was having a bad day, it was due to LSU was playing excellent press coverage and being aggressive so it was baffling to see them play loose/prevent defense. Being ranked 5th in the nation, I don't know why LSU decided to play cautiously at the end. There was nothing really to lose. You want to make up for the embarrassing BCS game so they should've remained aggressive.

As for 'Bama, this had to humbling experience but also shows them playing a complete game from start to end regardless of stats or situation.

McCarron was struggling because the 3 pass then punt routine wasn't getting there, especially when almost every single running play netted Bama at least 4-5 yards. That game goes much differently, and much less close, had we kept the ball on the ground more. IIRC, he was also flirting with finally getting round to throwing a pick for most of the night.

On a side note, LSU (u mad breaux?) has now lost 4 times in Death Valley at night. All 4 losses were to UA.

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It's been a problem all year. Wilson like running a "bend but don't break" defense, and I hate it. Receivers constantly have a huge cushion, and the defensive line has been useless all year. The line has single digit sacks between all of them. It's a shame, too, since the secondary is pretty good, but the best secondary is wasted if you can't get any pressure on opposing QBs. Troy and Tennessee put up huge numbers, and we got saved because they shot themselves in the foot.

Obviously what Miss St did, didn't work, but getting pressure on Manziel isn't always the thing to do, oddly enough. Florida shut him down by not rushing him in the second half, because they wanted to make sure he didn't beat them with his feet. Not 100% sure that will work now, given his comfort level in the offense and the coaches' confidence in the passing game, but it certainly worked in Game 1. LSU mixed it up, but they also didn't need to bring extra guys to generate a pass rush because their DEs are so good.

Bottom line, Mullen is probably the best coach at MSU outside of Sherrill, and while he hasn't gotten you guys over the hump, yet, I think it would be an awful mistake to get rid of him.

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There was also that pass interference call against LSU, which wasn't pass interference at all