I was wondering what it is that Satanists do in rituals to get results? Is it about just venting your emotions, crying, demanding what it is you want, almost like an emotional prayer to the self? Or is it pretending in your mind that you already have what you want emotionaly? Then do you wait for it to come about somehow, or do things to make it happen?

I have read about the rituals in the Satanic Bible and even performed a couple and enjoyed it, but never did get any actual results for some reason so I was wondering if the results really do come and if so what might I be doing wrong? thank you

Also is it true that a lot of Satanists use demons in rituals, not as real beings of course. But many say they are symbols of thought forms or pools of energy or impressions that exist in the ethers or astral plane? just curious

In the "Devils Notebook" LaVey says to just do a ritual and wish hard for your desire in some way with your emotions and then forget about it and stop caring then it will come to you. So is that really how it works? You do a ritual and then forget the whole thing and stop caring all about it and somehow, someway your desire will come to you?

I do feel that the letting out of emotions in the ritual makes sense. I was just confused by the what he said about after the ritual? I thought you would need to maybe act on the desire somehow to make it happen or something. But then he made it sound like you are suppose to no longer care and forget the whole thing?

If you assume it is strictly ceremony for ceremony's sake then after the ceremony it would probably not really matter one way or the other.

If you assume that it is strictly psychodrama and you did this to "get it out of your system", then dwelling on it again would be counterproductive to "getting it out of your system", wouldn't it?

If you assume that Greater Magic could have a direct affect on the situation (such as influencing other people at a distance), then the source material advises you to let it go so that you do not undercut it.

So if I do let out all of my emotions in the ritual for something I desire and then let go and forget about it, and put it out of my mind and do not act on it at all, it should somehow come to me at some point out of no where as some Satanists have said? correct. Thank you again for your advice

So if I do let out all of my emotions in the ritual for something I desire and then let go and forget about it, and put it out of my mind and do not act on it at all, it should somehow come to me at some point out of no where as some Satanists have said?

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Only you can effectively answer this question.

However, not acting on it at all even if you felt you knew such actions would be productive seems to be something you have added on your own.

I would suggest following the instructions without changing the instructions.

I would suggest re-reading the articles "The Comination Lock Principle" (what set-ups work for me won't necessarily work for you, and vice versa) and especially "Ravings from Tartarus" from The Devil's Notebook.

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So you mean I do need to act on it even while forcing myself to forget about it is what you are saying? Sounds tricky?

To make an analogy here, think of the experience of watching a movie. You can't force yourself to like a particular movie. Also, you enjoy it best when you're really "into" it and tune out everything else. Of course during this whole time you do know in the back of your mind that this is "just a movie", but to keep reminding yourself of that would defeat the purpose. Similarly, Satanic magic demands an "intellectual decompression" that doesn't extend into 24-7 mysticism.

If I understand what you are saying is that even while acting on trying to get your desire in some way I need to forget about the ritual, the magic and the desire itself even while doing steps to attain it. I am I correct?

If I understand what you are saying is that even while acting on trying to get your desire in some way I need to forget about the ritual, the magic and the desire itself even while doing steps to attain it. I am I correct?

I wouldn't go so far as to say "forget" about the ritual and everything entirely. Just that the ritual is the time and place to push the associated emotions/desire to the limit.

It's not about forcing yourself to forget it. In fact you can't really force yourself to forget something, because that just brings it more into focus. It's like that old saying "Don't think of a pink elephant! Uh-oh, too late." To quote one of the essays I mentioned, "This can be likened to an ambivalent feeling towards sex immediately following a rewarding sexual experience." A successful ritual, in my opinion, finishes with the feeling that you've already obtained what it was you wanted.

One more thing then. Just how much action or regular steps should be taken in order to gain your desire? Some Satanists have said that you need to work hard to get what you want, but others say to do just a little and let the magic do the rest or you will get in it's way?