Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

I am an aviation expert

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1894936

No, you are a liar!

If you can't understand that the temperature and humidity at altitude determines whether or not a contrail dissipates or persists then you are NOT an expert about aviation! If the air is near it's saturation point, and -40 degrees, and the water vapor created through hydrocarbon combustion is enough to push it past supersaturation, please tell me HOW a contrail WOULDN'T persist!!!!

Also, what effect does engine efficiency have on the amout of water vapor created through the jet engine. Can you see that there may be a correlation between the increase in efficiency and the increase in man made clouds (contrails)?! An aviation "expert" should EASILY understand that question.

You chemtards have managed to foll yourselves into believing you understand subjects that you couldn't be more ignorant about if you WANTED to be!

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

I am an aviation expert

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1894936

No, you are a liar!

If you can't understand that the temperature and humidity at altitude determines whether or not a contrail dissipates or persists then you are NOT an expert about aviation! If the air is near it's saturation point, and -40 degrees, and the water vapor created through hydrocarbon combustion is enough to push it past supersaturation, please tell me HOW a contrail WOULDN'T persist!!!!

Also, what effect does engine efficiency have on the amout of water vapor created through the jet engine. Can you see that there may be a correlation between the increase in efficiency and the increase in man made clouds (contrails)?! An aviation "expert" should EASILY understand that question.

You chemtards have managed to foll yourselves into believing you understand subjects that you couldn't be more ignorant about if you WANTED to be!

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

I am an aviation expert

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1894936

No, you are a liar!

If you can't understand that the temperature and humidity at altitude determines whether or not a contrail dissipates or persists then you are NOT an expert about aviation! If the air is near it's saturation point, and -40 degrees, and the water vapor created through hydrocarbon combustion is enough to push it past supersaturation, please tell me HOW a contrail WOULDN'T persist!!!!

Also, what effect does engine efficiency have on the amout of water vapor created through the jet engine. Can you see that there may be a correlation between the increase in efficiency and the increase in man made clouds (contrails)?! An aviation "expert" should EASILY understand that question.

You chemtards have managed to foll yourselves into believing you understand subjects that you couldn't be more ignorant about if you WANTED to be!

You are a liar! You are no expert...you are a chamtard!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42377339

Patrick MinnisEd TellerJP-8Operation CloverleafOperation deep shield

Shut the fuck up shill

Quoting: Interdimensional warrior 48592669

LOL!!!!

It's hilarious how little you people know. You read about shit on conspiracy sites and list them when confronted with your ignorance...like these things actually prove something!

Patrick Minnis knows that CONtrails can be an issue. They are STILL fucking contrails...and not "chemtrails". And the issue isn't about what they contain, it's a matter of what they block and trap! They are STILL contrails!

These "operations" you mention are conspiracy site bullshit...nothing more.

JP-8 is fuel...and anything you've heard about it from silly websites is paranoid drivel. I pity you.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

G. House is expending a lot of mental and emotional energy (over years)...

on something that he claims... does not exist.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4100335

Yeah it pisses me off.

You idiots rail on and on about non-existent threats while the world goes to hell around you.

I warned this forum for years about the dangers of the Nuclear industry but NO ONE CARED. no one wanted to discuss it.

Now you have a potential ELE at your door.

Keep going on about stupid friggen non-existent chemtrails.

Quoting: G. House

OP, regardless of what is or isn't being sprayed, as that can be disputed, it's foolish of you to claim the technology isn't available. Cloud seeding has been around, openly, throughout the world, for decades. The existence of cloud seeding is entirely fact. So if "they" wanted to "seed" some other substances, it would certainly be possible.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

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Don't be so presumptuous. i get paid big money for my expertise in spatial time speed judgement. The industry i work in is closely related to the aeronautical industry. I live near an international airport. I know the approach lanes and altitudes. And i also fly as a hobby. My judgement is sound.

Besides all that the only fuel and technology changes the airlines have made since the 70's has been to clean emissions. Chemtrails did not exist in the 70's and they certainly should not exist now.

OP is either a fool in denial or a paid shill.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

No...

YOU are obviously some sort of disinformation shill or just ignorant of the physics involved.

AND... ASSHOLE!

I saw my first contrail that went horizon to horizon in 1959.

Contrails have been observed documented and discussed since the VERY EARLY days of high altitude flight.

If YOU are not aware of this you are either IGNORANT of things aviation or again some sort of disinformation shill.

Quoting: G. House

Better switch to decaf broham. This has nothing to do with contrails. Nobody denies contrails.

This is about low altitude CHEMtrails that i see every day. I track chemical-spraying planes on my ARPA radar every damn day. I can plot and track their speed, heading, and altitude.

Why is it that i can plot two jets at the same altitude with one having a quick dispersing contrail that evaporates while the other has a trail that lingers in the air for 8 to 12 hours and eventually spreads out to form a cloud cover that engulfs the entire visible horizon.

I am not a shill. I just have common sense. I know what i see. To me it is blatantly obvious. I figure it's only a matter of time before everyone else comes to their senses. Some of you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

Chemtrails are very real. Jets have been filmed spraying on approach for god sake. Sorry if you didn't research enough.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18717299

You're ignorant. The approach trails are aerodynamic. And there is no evidence that any trail has been formed outside of the correct conditions for persistent contrails,

Also, learn about engine efficiency and HS power setting determines if enough vapor s released to put the air sat saturation.

Looks like it's YOU who needs to do more research!

Stop pretending to understand this subject. It's clear to those of us who do, that you do not.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Every chemist knows that water (droplets or crystals) evaporate easily, and have a limited lifetime, while solid mineral particles do not evaporate, but can only disperse by dilution with air until not visible. If you say that clouds are permanent, just look at time lapse videos of clouds and you will see that the edges of clouds are constantly changing, disappearing and being replaced by another part of a cloud. Anyone who considers ALL of the evidence, not just a cherry-picked subset to support a targeted conclusion, and who is completely impartial, letting only the evidence speak for itself, MUST come to the conclusion that chemtrails are mineral particles, and thus artificially placed in the atmosphere, and are not the same as contrails.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Every chemist knows that water (droplets or crystals) evaporate easily, and have a limited lifetime, while solid mineral particles do not evaporate, but can only disperse by dilution with air until not visible. If you say that clouds are permanent, just look at time lapse videos of clouds and you will see that the edges of clouds are constantly changing, disappearing and being replaced by another part of a cloud. Anyone who considers ALL of the evidence, not just a cherry-picked subset to support a targeted conclusion, and who is completely impartial, letting only the evidence speak for itself, MUST come to the conclusion that chemtrails are mineral particles, and thus artificially placed in the atmosphere, and are not the same as contrails.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Every chemist knows that water (droplets or crystals) evaporate easily, and have a limited lifetime, while solid mineral particles do not evaporate, but can only disperse by dilution with air until not visible. If you say that clouds are permanent, just look at time lapse videos of clouds and you will see that the edges of clouds are constantly changing, disappearing and being replaced by another part of a cloud. Anyone who considers ALL of the evidence, not just a cherry-picked subset to support a targeted conclusion, and who is completely impartial, letting only the evidence speak for itself, MUST come to the conclusion that chemtrails are mineral particles, and thus artificially placed in the atmosphere, and are not the same as contrails.

Quoting: Gali

Or, the trails are contrails and chemtards are idiots.

I'll accept that as truth until a trail is actually sampled. I refuse to make assumptions. So should chemtards.

To compare these high altitude trails with clouds is just fucking STUPID! The air has SEVERAL differing qualities at that altitude.

Ahhh...nevermind. You people are going to believe what you want. it's FAITH! Chemtrails are a religion to you people...it's pathetic!

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

Every chemist knows that water (droplets or crystals) evaporate easily, and have a limited lifetime, while solid mineral particles do not evaporate, but can only disperse by dilution with air until not visible. If you say that clouds are permanent, just look at time lapse videos of clouds and you will see that the edges of clouds are constantly changing, disappearing and being replaced by another part of a cloud. Anyone who considers ALL of the evidence, not just a cherry-picked subset to support a targeted conclusion, and who is completely impartial, letting only the evidence speak for itself, MUST come to the conclusion that chemtrails are mineral particles, and thus artificially placed in the atmosphere, and are not the same as contrails.

Quoting: Gali

Or, the trails are contrails and chemtards are idiots.

I'll accept that as truth until a trail is actually sampled. I refuse to make assumptions. So should chemtards.

To compare these high altitude trails with clouds is just fucking STUPID! The air has SEVERAL differing qualities at that altitude.

Ahhh...nevermind. You people are going to believe what you want. it's FAITH! Chemtrails are a religion to you people...it's pathetic!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48725641

whats pathetic is your last cry for a sample from the trail....that is what contards always resort to , give me a fucking sample....what looser...so a few pathetic fucksvs. millions are right? How about your pathetic dumb ass go up there and get a sample and prove the chemtards are wrong if it means that much to you? You pretty much back up the chemtard other than a sample hasn't been brought forth...

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

I watch them here about 6 days a week, dunno what it is but they get busy and make cloids of something that often end up covering the entire sky and usually its gone or not visible a few hoirs after dark.

These whispy clouds just hang and cover and slowly drop, sometimes your so called "ice crystals" end up in thick patches covering the sky above the ground, in 90 fucking heat.

My new mission is just to get people to look up and wonder what it is, cause once you see it, if you dont wonder what it is, your an idiot pure and simple.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

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Yeah, everyone who disagrees with chemtards is "noble".

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1477793

There is nothing "noble" about a sockpuppet. You being the "sockpuppet".

The chemical trails are seen by too many ppl all over the world. Your desperate denial after all these years is more validation.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36419852

Yet, YOU people have FAILED to prove that the trails are anything more than contrails. How frustrating that must be for you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48725641

Yet you prove they are just contrail...other than quoting others..how pathetic for you!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071039

You can believe in your contrails if you like and that's what you think you see. Happy for you.But as far as chemical trails that's entirely different. A totally "different" type of trail. Hangs in the air creating a fog like cloud held together by a chemical cocktail. That's what you can't deal with. Not what you're here to discuss.....what you're here to change discussion of.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

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There is nothing "noble" about a sockpuppet. You being the "sockpuppet".

The chemical trails are seen by too many ppl all over the world. Your desperate denial after all these years is more validation.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36419852

Yet, YOU people have FAILED to prove that the trails are anything more than contrails. How frustrating that must be for you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48725641

Yet you prove they are just contrail...other than quoting others..how pathetic for you!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1071039

You can believe in your contrails if you like and that's what you think you see. Happy for you.But as far as chemical trails that's entirely different. A totally "different" type of trail. Hangs in the air creating a fog like cloud held together by a chemical cocktail. That's what you can't deal with. Not what you're here to discuss.....what you're here to change discussion of.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36419852

Just because a trail persists doesn't mean it's anything but a contrail. That's the problem with you people. You don't understand contrails. I'm sorry, but that's a fact. There is ZERO evidence of any "chemical cocktail". You accept bullshit as truth because you WANT to. And that's sad.

Re: Why the chemtrail HOAX is the most ridiculous conspiracy on the net.

I have billions of man hours dedicated to atmospheric science research behind ME. All you people have is each other and paranoid and ignorant assumption. I win...even though you are unable to understand that fact.