Kizer Ki3404-a3 Review

As the standard-bearer for the burgeoning (and almost instantaneously influential) high-end Chinese knife scene, Kizer made an immediate impression with its very high-quality, relatively affordable knives. In what is perhaps a not-very-encouraging indicator of where the knife community’s mindset is at, Kizer immediately fell under harsh scrutiny – a scrutiny that only intensified during the unfortunate business with Tim Britton.

Somehow, though, Kizer came through it, and seem to have earned the respect of knife users, and the attention of other knife companies. I’m not a market analyst, but I think that, since Kizer showed up and started offering a lot of knife at decent prices, prices for high-end knives have, in general, gone down: it’s hard for me to imagine that the lower-than-expected prices of knives like the Spyderco Positron or the Benchmade Valet are total coincidences. The paradigm has shifted.

One of the first Kizer knives to make an impression on me was the Ki3404-a3. Kizer’s initial output, although of indisputably high quality, consisted mainly of huge, over-embellished knives that I wouldn’t have any use for. The 3404, however, was small and spare: a clean, professional, functional design. So I picked one up. When I first got it, I thought it was incredible. My opinion has changed somewhat since then, but I still think that, both as a statement of intent from Kizer and as a tool, the 3404 is worth taking a look at.

General Dimensions and Blade Details

The 3404 has a blade length of 3 1/16”, a handle length of 4 1/16”, and an overall length of7”. It weighs 3.1 oz. There isn’t anything bad, or astounding, about those numbers, and I think that this is indicative of the knife as a whole: it’s competent, but also a little rote and unexciting.

I think that saying one type of blade grind is ‘better’ than another is of limited use critically, because so much comes down to execution, but if I did indulge in a rule of thumb regarding grinds it would be that hollow grinds tend to be better slicers. The 3404’s hollow grind is, like the knife itself, clean, professional, adequate: it doesn’t distinguish itself at any particular task but does a solid B+ job with anything you would reasonably use it for.

And speaking of solid B+ performance: the3404’s blade is made of S35VN. S35VN is probably the most balanced of the super steels we commonly see in knives. No freakish chemistry, no single outstanding gimmick, no real compromise other than that it doesn’t excel at any one thing the way that, say, 3V or ZDP-189 do. You just get solid performance in every category. If it is anything besides your first super steel, I suspect you’ll be pleased but not delighted. And, let it be known that, as far as I know or remember, Kizer was the first company to start offering S35VN at the (comparatively) low price points of $90-120.

It’s probably worth making a brief note on the fit and finish: it’s very, very good, and a textbook example of a ‘cool finish’. This is a knife whose high marks in F&F come from precise machining and excellent assembly. The closest comparison I can make is to a Taichung, Taiwan Spyderco, albeit with a little less character – although I think that comes down to the overall blandness of the design rather than Kizer’s manufacturing chops. If I had to complain, I would say that the titanium scales are surprisingly scratch-prone, as you can see in my pictures. It isn’t going to ruin your life

Handle, Ergonomics, and Carry

The blandness that I mentioned above, for all that it stops the 3404 from achieving real greatness, also prevents it (mostly, see below) from awfulness as well. You see this most clearly in the handle design. You’ll never think about the 3404’s handle, either disparagingly or appreciatively, for as long as you have it. It works well, but it isn’t going to ring any cherries either.

The handle isn’t totally neutral, there is one finger groove under the fingerguard/flipper (reminiscent of a less roomy Knockout handle), but it’s just fine. The scales are contoured and fairly gently bead-blasted, and offer enough resistance to keep the 3404 from slipping around as you’re using it. There’s also jimping on the thumb ramp and spine and the base of the handle – more than I need, certainly, but it’s well-cut and I have no complaints.

Issues arise with the clip. It’s bad. I don’t subscribe to the “tip-up or bust” school of thought when it comes to my pocket knives, but I do think that any knife that uses a flipper, as the 3404 does, should come configured tip-up. This is because a tip-up configuration puts the flipper tab on the outside of the knife as it sits in your pocket – that is, the side that isn’t against your pocket’s seam. When you have a flipper knife that clips in tip-down, you have to accommodate the tab against the pocket seam, effectively making the knife occupy more space in your pocket than it should. Irksome more than deal-breaking, true, but it does seem like a strictly inferior choice from a design perspective.

As an aside: I’ve heard from multiple sources that some 3404s come with the handle milled out for optional tip-up carry. I haven’t seen one myself, and it looks like most of the major retailers are still advertising this as a tip-down knife, but you may luck out.

Orientation aside, the clip itself is bad. The weird looks are enough to drag it from my good graces, but beyond that the flared-out end scrapes paint and catches on things. And while I don’t care about deep carry too much, this clip also leaves a lot of knife exposed. I wouldn’t bring this up if the clip did anything else well, but its universal ineptitude is making me petty.

Generally, I feel like the missed opportunity a bad pocket clip represents isn’t very much in the overall scheme of the knife as a tool, but given the uniform competence you see everywhere else on the 3404, it really stands out. I actually seriously considered taking the thing off, and that’s something that’s never even entered my head before with other bad clips.

Deployment and Lockup

There are two broad categories into which a knife’s deployment can fall: smooth or aggressive. Smooth deployments are something like a really well-worked-in Axis Lock, like on my 940-1: thoughtless and graceful. Aggressive deployments are like my really dialed-in CRKT Drifter: kinetic and responsive. Neither is better than the other; both, when done well, can be incredible.

The 3404 is an aggressive flipper done well. You definitely need to build up some tension in your finger, but once you do the 3404’s blade comes shooting out. It’s satisfying, and a ton of fun from the fidget factor perspective. I’ll also say that the thumbstuds, vestigial or no, are really good. I could live without them on a flipper this good, but hey, options aren’t a bad thing if they don’t add much weight and work this well.

What works less well is the 3404’s framelock. It still works, but it is very susceptible to any sort of looseness in the pivot – much more so than a liner lock would be (he said, beating a dead horse). And the pivot comes loose on the 3404 fairly quickly – understandably an easily fixable issue, but the frequency with which it loosened reminded me of the lock problem over and over again. And if I have¬ to have a framelock, I want a steel insert; we all know titanium’s tendency to deform over time. A theoretical concern, maybe, but one that would definitely make the pivot issues even more pronounced.

Kizer Ki3404-a3 Review – Final Thoughts

When I first picked up the 3404, I thought it was one of the best deals I’d ever gotten on a knife – and, at the time, I was right. Titanium, flipper, S35VN for $120 was a screaming deal back then. Even today it’s pretty good. As a statement of intent, it’s hard to argue with the 3404. It caused me to keep my eyes on Kizer, and I think they’re really starting to come into their own with knives like the Gemini – not to mention that the bigger manufacturers are offering similarly enticing, high-value high-end knives: things like the Native 5 with S35VN, or the upcoming Mini-Griptilians with 20CV.

In fact, there are so many cool knives around the 3404’s price point today, that, good as it is, it impresses much less than it did a year ago. Although the 3404 does very little wrong from a design standpoint, I also find it quite boring. It’s competent, but not innovative or memorable beyond the price at which it was offered, and now there are better knives for around the same price – some by Kizer themselves.

All that being said, the 3404 is still a good, good knife. If it catches your eye, I heartily recommend it.

If you are interested in buying a Kizer Ki3404-a3, I recommend purchasing it at Amazon.com or BladeHQ. Please consider that buying anything through any of the links on this website helps support BladeReviews.com, and keeps the site going. As always, any and all support is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Editor’s Note: I agree with Ben’s assessment of the 3404. This knife was more exciting a year or so ago than it is now, however, it is still an important knife for Kizer, and at the very least it will serve as a reference point for things to come. On it’s own, it still appears to be a functional and well executed design.

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Awesome review. I have been close to buying this knife at least 3 different times. I totally agree that the design is a little bland, but that blade shape has always caught my eye and contoured TI at this price is STILL a good value today.

But that darn pocket clip always turns me off and you’re not the first reviewer to mention that the framelock isn’t the best in the world. And what you said about there being a lot of interesting knives at this price point is exactly the reason I still don’t own it. While this knife is a great value in terms of materials and machining, it’s just not that interesting (which is also why I thought it was so weird that Briton insisted on taking credit for this design). It just kind of looks like every Hinderer-inspired knife that isn’t really a Hinderer. And once you break the $100 mark, you really do have a lot of options, and that makes this one hard to justify.

There is definitely still appeal to the 3404. I found the blade shape good but not great in terms of performance, but it is undeniably handsome, and the contoured handle scales definitely feel luxurious.

But I could write about how annoyed I am with that pocket clip all day, and, as you said, the minute you’re willing to spend over $100 on a knife, there are many, many tempting options out there. Unless you have a lot of those other options already, or are just taken with the design (understandable, but not the case with me), it’s hard, and getting harder, to make an argument for the 3404 as it is currently priced.

I have one with the anodized handles (looks like a tie-dyed Grateful Dead t-shirt). It hides scratches very well. I like the knife a lot, other than the clip, and the flipper tab being a bit too intrusive. The thing is, the Gemini is just a better knife in every way. If I had bought that knife first I doubt I would even have purchased the 3404.

Thanks for the comment. I agree 100%; if the Gemini had been available (or even announced) when I was looking to purchase the 3404, I would have held off. That’s the exact knife I had in mind when I wrote that there were better offerings from Kizer themselves.

I enjoyed the review.. Interesting..The knife does remind me a little of my ZT 0562 (I think I’m the only one that didn’t get the CF). I’m glad Kizer is making knives. The materials and designs all seem good for the most part. Hopefully, they will have things fine tuned and keep the low prices. I’m still a little hesitant about picking one up now. I agree that Kizer and possibly other brands will force some of the big names to put a more reasonable price on their knives. I’m a huge Spyderco fan. I like Benchmade too. However, some of their knives are over priced IMO… ZT really upped their game. It wasn’t easy for me to drop $200 on a 0562 but I didn’t feel like I was getting ripped off. It wasn’t a bargain by any means but a better deal then some of the higher end Spyderco/Benchmade knives. I’m going to keep my eye on Kizer and any reviews. Thanks Tom

Thanks for reading. There is definitely Hinderer influence in the 3404, but the 562 has much more character. But it’s funny: a few years ago ZT would have been close to the top of my “companies who overprice their knives” list, but they’ve really reigned it in recently. Many of their newer knives manage to stay in the $150ish price bracket, which is cool.

I have a review of the Kizer Vanguard Gemini coming up, keep an eye peeled for it. It blows the 3404 away in terms of design and fit and finish. The 3404 was no slouch but the Gemini was a noticeable step up.

I went to a knife store yesterday and they had a ton of Kizers in stock. I spotted a model that appealed to me and asked if I could take a look at it. The one I held had side to side blade play and should have been given a better factory edge. It had a 170 price tag, so I ended up passing on it.

I just purchased a the updated version of this knife via Amazon (KI3404A3). Kizer appears to have taken the early criticism to heart and made improvements. The blade is now 3 inches, in keeping with the trend for smaller EDC knives and some US knife laws. It looks like they have reworked the clip a bit, it is shorter and has a little less flare, mine came with tip up orientation (and milling for tip down, if that is preferred). The lock appears to have a steel insert now (a little hard to tell, but I see two screw heads similar to my ZTs) and there no longer is a stop for the lock (though the lip is positioned so that the end is half-over the lock, so it probably serves as a stop, while not pushing on the lock due to also resting on the frame. The heads of the pivot bolt are also a bit dressier compared to the pictures in this review. So it seems like they have made some improvements with the update.