Comments on: 5 problems with Ubuntu 12.04 part 2: Calendaring & forward planninghttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/5-problems-with-ubuntu-12-04-part-2-calendaring-forward-planning
Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:27:00 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: Sicofantehttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/5-problems-with-ubuntu-12-04-part-2-calendaring-forward-planning/comment-page-1#comment-355433
Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:34:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355433It seems your mastering of English doesn’t help your cell brains one bit. I bet you can’t speak a single word in any other language either. But let’s forget about your general ignorance and your particular ignorance in computing. Moreover, let’s forget about this necroposting of yours altogether and all the idiocy you keep spouting. All of your points have been already discussed in this thread and you simply don’t get it. Plonk.
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Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:37:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355424Well, since English apparently isn’t your native language, that may account for your difficulty.

Since the information I obtained came from more
than one source — a support tech at Apple HQ who volunteered it and another tech at the local Apple store who confirmed it when I asked — it seems likely these would be more authoritative sources than you. Accusing people of lying merely because you hold contrary beliefs is the mark of a lazy mind.

What is “Ubuntu” is not recognizable to users based on the underlying kernel (which is unseen) but on the GUI and the various fundamental functions provided. The Gnome interface is widely used by Linux systems of various flavors, and the Apple OSX GUI looks and works virtually identical to the Ubuntu Gnome implementation. This is a matter of fact. If you have both, you can (but likely will not) confirm it easily by inspection and operation. Admittedly the Apple GUI doesn’t work as smoothly as the Ubuntu one.

I assumed the Ubuntu implementation was in imitation of Apple. I was informed I had it backwards. Whether you believe this or not has no influence on reality.

As to your obsession with the “professional” necessity
of a stand-alone calendaring system (rather than one bundled into another application), it’s reasonable to point out that you’ve invented your own standard about what is “professional”. Since that word generally describes personal conduct and performance rather than arbitrarily preferred software features, perhaps you should pick another you find less confusing as to its meaning.

Most people using Ubuntu prefer the Lightening plug-in if they are using T-bird, which is now the default mailer shipped with Ubuntu. It also supports Google calendaring, according to claims made for it. (Since I have never shared personal information with Google, I have no idea.)

Previously, the Mozilla Sunbird application was available to anyone who wanted it. It was a stand-alone calendaring system. It was then abandoned in favor of moving it to T-bird as a plugin:

It is a bit humorous that you’ve spilled a lot of ink off topic to complain that my single remark was off topic. No doubt that irony entirely escapes you.

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Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:35:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355418OK. Let’s end this surreal conversation for good. OS X is based on BSD which is a totally different animal from Linux, let alone Ubuntu. Besides, even if both were based on exactly the same code, your point is completely off topic, since this is about Ubuntu having the tools for everyday use in a professional/event, such as a calendar. OS X has it. Ubuntu hasn’t. Period.

Of course, if any Apple tech support person tells you OS X is based on Ubuntu (which I’m positive won’t happen; you pick up the phone), s/he lying and you’re an ignorant for believing such nonsense.

(EDIT: I honestly didn’t know what you were talking about in my previous post’s questions. You don’t only write nonsense. You write it so badly it’s very hard to follow.)

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Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:14:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355414You have stated that my comment that OSX is basically Ubuntu (with a different kernel, of course) is “idiotic”.

You can readily verify whether my claim or yours is true. I have told you how to do that. It’s also how I originally discovered this fact. So can you. It seems reasonable to assume you know how to use a telephone.

You are not confused. You do not find this “hard to follow”. You are dissembling. That’s an entirely different problem.

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Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:30:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355413What is “true”? What will those techs at Apple tell me? What facts should I check? It’s really hard to follow you.
]]>By: bh9http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/5-problems-with-ubuntu-12-04-part-2-calendaring-forward-planning/comment-page-1#comment-355397
Sat, 13 Jul 2013 17:40:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355397Pick up the phone (or open a chat) with the techs at Apple. They freely tell you this is true.

I posted “this nonsense”, as you call it, since the truth tends to beat fiction every time.

Oh, you were having half an argument until you made such an idiotic claim. If it wasn’t enough, OS X has had a calendar -which is the topic- since its inception, so it’s really hard to understand why you took the time and effort to revive a year old thread to post all this nonsense.

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Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:39:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355393Um, have you selected a different user interface option (like Gnome) when you logged in? I don’t know how this could be made easier than clicking on a drop-down selection list.

Frankly, I think regular Unity sucks. If I want a tablet, I’ll go buy one. On the other hand, I do like some of the newer nav options and can live with selecting from graphic push-buttons. Given the cairo-dock menu (same as what OSX uses), it’s just not a big deal.

Mostly, like other people, I find it annoying to have to change habits to get things done no better and no faster. Selecting one of Gnome interfaces pretty much gets me what I want with no blood, sweat, or tears. And no possibility of encountering the blue screen of death.

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Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:30:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355391I’ve used Thunderbird in business for years after having dumped Evolution, which was buggy. I don’t use buggy programs for business. Opinions vary. I haven’t seen anything about Evolution at this point that makes it an attractive alternative to T-bird.

Evolution was phased out with 12.04 after many years. Many have been pleased to no longer have to remove it and replace it with Thunderbird. Saves a step. What’s not to like?

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Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:26:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355390These are all installed automatically by default. Your choice is therefore to remove them if you don’t want them, not to install them if you do.
]]>By: bh9http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/5-problems-with-ubuntu-12-04-part-2-calendaring-forward-planning/comment-page-1#comment-355389
Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:00 +0000http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/?p=7463#comment-355389“Ubuntu is not aimed at professionals.”

Neither is Windows. A lot of tech people have moved from Windows to Ubuntu. They don’t move back to Windows from Ubuntu (or OSX) once they’ve got their feet down.

I agree Ubuntu (and other flavors) are being steadily modified to be easier for former Winduhs users, but that has nothing whatever to do with “professionals” using it or not. Most of the other flavors are making a similar migration, but linux is more often the system of choice by tech folks than by newbies. Since OSX is basically a modified (perhaps more rightly described as “hacked”) Ubuntu, and OSX is widely used by “professionals”, it’s a bit difficult to figure out what you are using as evidence.

I do believe the Lightening plugin should be installed by default rather than left to the user to discover by accident.

Few people also know about the Enigmail plugin for PGP encryption. Not to suggest anyone might be accumulating your email as “evidence” of some innocent comment which may — in the future — be arbitrarily (and perhaps secretly) construed to be a “crime” against the state.

PGP is also free of any back doors granting free walk-in privileges for warrantless searches. One of the key differences about open source software is that it’s subject to intense and constant scrutiny by experts world-wide. Proprietary software, on the other hand, can carry out whatever acts the manufacturer desires, with no independent oversight.