an OWS Liberal who wants stronger government, more government regulations, and more government regulation of our lives

OR

a Black Bloc anarchist who hates government, and wants to abolish government?

It's always funny when people try to act like these are the same things.

Quoting: Johnny Patriot 20144801

Welcome to my world. Very few people seem to understand they are not the sameNo guns = LiberalDisagreeing = Marxist/Leninist/Communist/Socialist/AnarchistStanding up for your rights = Black BlocSlaughtering a movie theatre full of people = Black BlocHacking websites = Black BlocEating an Ice Cream Cone on a hot July day = Black Block

Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men.-Mikhail Bakunin-

Dear OPMiss-use of the term Black-Bloc negates any point you may be trying to make, idiot.know you shit then open your fucking mouthI bet you think this idiot was bothe a Marxist and and Anarchist as well right?Fucking idiot.Go fuck a dog.

Quoting: Switchblade

This hits you too close to home, eh??

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19228212

Not exactly, But I just hate how fringe political groups get taken down because idiots at demonstrations were black so they must be Black-Bloc, or someone goes against the status quo and they are a Marxist, or an Anarchist, or my favourite Oxy-Moron Anarcho-Marxist.

SNIP

Quoting: Switchblade

I agree, makes no sense..

No affiliation to either group myself but the MSM is doing its best at dividing all of us

I was involved in Occupy before you seen it on TV. At first it had a strong libertarian sway. Ron Paul supporters were thick in Occupy. The organization had no central authority and no way to vet people. MArxists jumped into the mix fairly early. By the time Occupy hit MSM TPTB were concerned and were working to undermine the entire thing.

They succeeding hugely. MOVEON.org got involved and the dems sent out their goons. It took them just a couple of weeks to turn the whole damn thing into a liberal funhouse.

I was astonished at how quickly they did it. At first there was stiff resistance from some organizers and others in positions of influence. Then the money came rolling in by the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Suddenly the resisters resisted no more, or else were pushed out of the circle.

The original Occupy movement overlapped with the ideals espoused by the early Teaparty by atleast 50%. There were issues that they disagreed on, but the big thing, bank bailouts, they were in 100% alignment. There were teapartiers involved. TPTB couldn't have that shit. They couldn't have a liberal outfit alligning with conservatives on any issue, especially not with all the energy that was in the air.

TPTB feared a popular uprising I think. They did a textbook "kill" by inserting their own people. It was like how the Teaparty got turned into a republican "turn out the vote" machine, except ten times that.

I still get offended a little when people bash Occupy. I actually agree with those doing the bashing, but it still rubs me funny because I put a lot me into Occupy. At first Occupy wasn't what it became. It was a lot better. It was libertarian, it was constitution, it was anti bailout, it wasn't just a democrat fun club.

People think they know. They think it was set up from the beginning to be a democrat thing. I've read all the same information, but I was there. I felt it, I participated before any of you even heard of Occupy. I believe it was a grassroots movement that had a lot in common with the teaparty. Then TPTB decided it was a threat to their game and they studied it to see what they wanted to do with it. They saw a youthful college educated crowd that leaned a little further left than many teapartiers(but who were pissed for all the same reasons) and they decided then and there what was to be Occupys' fate. It was to be the democrats' version of the Teaparty. Divide and conquer.

MK Ultra...just like Columbine. Crazy stuff is happening in Colorado. Fires to disguise underground activity, shootings in local gatherings, illuminati ritual sacrifices in the castle, NWO mural at airport...probably so much more than we are not aware of.

Sad for the victims, pray for comfort for their families....once time passes Colorado citizens ought to attempt to clean up the dark forces. Keep the second amendment alive because you will have no protection against something like this if it visits your doorstep. Live in the light but recognize what is going on around you.

Dear OPMiss-use of the term Black-Bloc negates any point you may be trying to make, idiot.know you shit then open your fucking mouthI bet you think this idiot was bothe a Marxist and and Anarchist as well right?Fucking idiot.Go fuck a dog.

Quoting: Switchblade

This hits you too close to home, eh??

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19228212

Not exactly, But I just hate how fringe political groups get taken down because idiots at demonstrations were black so they must be Black-Bloc, or someone goes against the status quo and they are a Marxist, or an Anarchist, or my favourite Oxy-Moron Anarcho-Marxist.

SNIP

Quoting: Switchblade

I agree, makes no sense..

No affiliation to either group myself but the MSM is doing its best at dividing all of us

Quoting: DILKe

Nor do I, I just stand on the side of right, and I will fight and fight hard for my rights and others. and if it has to go to violence than so be it. (This does not include Rioting, setting cars ablaze, smashing windows, shooting people, etc.)I have been labelled many of those mindless misnomers in my years, and have just said "whatever".The fact is though that anyone that stands up for my right/your rights/my dogs rights, deserves to be treated with respect, and not have his entire affinity group taken down by some ass-hat claiming that an idiot that shoots innocent people must be Black-Bloc, or anything, what does his Political swing have to do with the event?

Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men.-Mikhail Bakunin-

Hahaha, if he was "obsessed" with V for vendetta he would have targetted the establishment not the people. Total bullshit.

I said they arw going to finger him as a conspiracy theorist and thats what they are doing.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20073680

Yes, well, those who 'speculate' are really engauging in confirmation bias. That is, they only look for and promote that which supports their clear bias.

I agree with the above, but moreover, this throwing out 'black-bloc' without any knowledge as to its history, or that OWS is AGAINST such tactics does not hinder the forced tie-in. Sure Black-Bloc is violent and thats their thing. Its been doing things for years and years in Europe. All against multinationals and corporations, i.e. not personal or people.

Even more funny are those who post 'oh, if its OWS then the press will bury it'. OWS gets noting but negative coverage. Why do you think there was a nationwide crackdown? No, the media is CORPORATIST. If they play this up or spin it, it can only serve to bash OWS by association. Ask yourself, why is that? Who controls, spins, and throws up divisions for the people to fight amongst themselves?

This guy is clearly nuts or controlled. It also fits in with these:

Batman Invades Occupy Wall Street

-The "Occupy" movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. "Occupy" is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America. -- Frank Miller, author of The Dark Knight Returns.

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Hello. I'm billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne, a member in good standing of the one percent. I earned my money the old fashioned way -- I inherited it. You may know me better by my alter ego, the Dark Knight, a.k.a. Batman.

-What I saw sickened me. The park was filled with laid-off workers, evicted home owners, debt-ridden students, pension-robbed retirees, and veterans who had returned from some war or the other to the worst recession since the Great Depression -- the scum of the Earth.

I knew I had to do something. That night in my civilian identity, I dined with Mayor Mike Bloomberg. Over steak, lobster, and champagne, we discussed the crisis. He was on the fence about Occupy Wall Street: on the one hand, he didn't like the rabble any better than I did; on the other hand, he still had some quaint beliefs about First Amendment rights.

I quickly set him straight, "If we don't stop them here, it will turn into anarchy -- or worse. I saw the signs saying 'Eat The Rich' -- they're a bunch of cannibals, just like Killer Croc. Stern measures are called for to protect health and public safety. Pass the caviar." The mayor agreed, and the next morning called for a surprise dawn raid to retake the park.

Popular video game reveals villain as “leader of the 99%” in new trailerBy J.G Vibes

- Even if you doubted that the popular wartime first person shooters were propaganda before, you are going to have a hard time not being suspicious after hearing that the villain in the newest “Call of Duty” videogame is described as the “leader of the 99%”.

It has become blatantly clear that a political message is being sent by the ruling class to the rest of us using these video games and other media. I’m not saying that there is something wrong with video games, we all need time to relax every now and then and if that’s how you decide to do it that is great. However, this specific series and others like it that glorify war and demonize activists are highly suspect and can now quite confidently be identified as outright propaganda.

Just this week a gaming website even compared the the villain to Julian Assange saying “The game’s main villain is Raul Menendez, described as the “idolized Messiah of the 99%”—a Julian Assange-like character who’s old, experienced, and hell bent on starting a global insurrection against the status quo. He hands Sgt. Frank Woods, the protagonist of the first game, a necklace at the end of the trailer which symbolizes a connection between the two characters.” You can take a look at the trailer for yourself below:

I was involved in Occupy before you seen it on TV. At first it had a strong libertarian sway. Ron Paul supporters were thick in Occupy. The organization had no central authority and no way to vet people. MArxists jumped into the mix fairly early. By the time Occupy hit MSM TPTB were concerned and were working to undermine the entire thing.

They succeeding hugely. MOVEON.org got involved and the dems sent out their goons. It took them just a couple of weeks to turn the whole damn thing into a liberal funhouse.

I was astonished at how quickly they did it. At first there was stiff resistance from some organizers and others in positions of influence. Then the money came rolling in by the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Suddenly the resisters resisted no more, or else were pushed out of the circle.

The original Occupy movement overlapped with the ideals espoused by the early Teaparty by atleast 50%. There were issues that they disagreed on, but the big thing, bank bailouts, they were in 100% alignment. There were teapartiers involved. TPTB couldn't have that shit. They couldn't have a liberal outfit alligning with conservatives on any issue, especially not with all the energy that was in the air.

TPTB feared a popular uprising I think. They did a textbook "kill" by inserting their own people. It was like how the Teaparty got turned into a republican "turn out the vote" machine, except ten times that.

I still get offended a little when people bash Occupy. I actually agree with those doing the bashing, but it still rubs me funny because I put a lot me into Occupy. At first Occupy wasn't what it became. It was a lot better. It was libertarian, it was constitution, it was anti bailout, it wasn't just a democrat fun club.

People think they know. They think it was set up from the beginning to be a democrat thing. I've read all the same information, but I was there. I felt it, I participated before any of you even heard of Occupy. I believe it was a grassroots movement that had a lot in common with the teaparty. Then TPTB decided it was a threat to their game and they studied it to see what they wanted to do with it. They saw a youthful college educated crowd that leaned a little further left than many teapartiers(but who were pissed for all the same reasons) and they decided then and there what was to be Occupys' fate. It was to be the democrats' version of the Teaparty. Divide and conquer.

Quoting: Erectus 945267

Exactly what did you THINK was going to happen when MSNBC and the Soros-funded World-Can't-Wait whackos moved in???

oh.. a marxist and an anarchist are different??? lol. these people throw around politically binding nomenclature like they actually have a clue what ANY of it means. truly an irritant. and it seems to accomplish the goal of tptb - keep the masses angry and fighting amongst themselves so they never see what is going on above them.. same story, different millennium.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134

Exactly.

Quoting: Switchblade

No one should engage in conversation with a person that ends with "go f*ck a dog." Just ain't worth it.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739

Yes someone that expresses rage in text is not worth engaging in conversation with.though someone that engages in conversation with someone engaging in conversation with someone that ends a statement with "Go Fuck A Dog" should too be ignored by your logic.

Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men.-Mikhail Bakunin-

No one should engage in conversation with a person that ends with "go f*ck a dog." Just ain't worth it.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739

Yes someone that expresses rage in text is not worth engaging in conversation with.though someone that engages in conversation with someone engaging in conversation with someone that ends a statement with "Go Fuck A Dog" should too be ignored by your logic.

Quoting: Switchblade

The hell?

That was a few pages back...

Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men.-Mikhail Bakunin-

I was involved in Occupy before you seen it on TV. At first it had a strong libertarian sway. Ron Paul supporters were thick in Occupy. The organization had no central authority and no way to vet people. MArxists jumped into the mix fairly early. By the time Occupy hit MSM TPTB were concerned and were working to undermine the entire thing.

They succeeding hugely. MOVEON.org got involved and the dems sent out their goons. It took them just a couple of weeks to turn the whole damn thing into a liberal funhouse.

I was astonished at how quickly they did it. At first there was stiff resistance from some organizers and others in positions of influence. Then the money came rolling in by the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Suddenly the resisters resisted no more, or else were pushed out of the circle.

The original Occupy movement overlapped with the ideals espoused by the early Teaparty by atleast 50%. There were issues that they disagreed on, but the big thing, bank bailouts, they were in 100% alignment. There were teapartiers involved. TPTB couldn't have that shit. They couldn't have a liberal outfit alligning with conservatives on any issue, especially not with all the energy that was in the air.

TPTB feared a popular uprising I think. They did a textbook "kill" by inserting their own people. It was like how the Teaparty got turned into a republican "turn out the vote" machine, except ten times that.

I still get offended a little when people bash Occupy. I actually agree with those doing the bashing, but it still rubs me funny because I put a lot me into Occupy. At first Occupy wasn't what it became. It was a lot better. It was libertarian, it was constitution, it was anti bailout, it wasn't just a democrat fun club.

People think they know. They think it was set up from the beginning to be a democrat thing. I've read all the same information, but I was there. I felt it, I participated before any of you even heard of Occupy. I believe it was a grassroots movement that had a lot in common with the teaparty. Then TPTB decided it was a threat to their game and they studied it to see what they wanted to do with it. They saw a youthful college educated crowd that leaned a little further left than many teapartiers(but who were pissed for all the same reasons) and they decided then and there what was to be Occupys' fate. It was to be the democrats' version of the Teaparty. Divide and conquer.

The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis

Current news reports on him are currently stating that police have found material in his house, associated with Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh; and that he apparently is registered with the Colorado Tea Party.

Google is swarming with rumored connections between James Holmes and Rush Limbaugh...

The 7 "Days" of Creation (including His 1 Day of Rest) were actually 7000 years, add that to the current 6000 Years of the Hebrew Calender dating Genesis to the Present, and you have 12,000 - 14,000 years! Right smack in the middle of the Neolithic Revolution, when the "Homo Sapien" species learned how to... "grow a brain"!________________________________________________

If George W. Bush was supposed to be Cthulhu...Then Barack Hussein Obama is the spittin image of Nyarlathotep! Behold! The Crawling Chaos! Nephren Ka! The Black Pharaoh!

Cthulhu is the High Priest of Azathoth. The high Priest spreads "the word" and prepares "the way", and introduces the religion... Nyarlathotep is the Harbinger of Azathoth... the Harbinger heralds the imminent arrival of Azathoth!Azathoth is the insane blind god in the Center of Chaos!

Holmes Name MeaningEnglish (chiefly central and northern England): variant of Holme.Scottish: probably a habitational name from Holmes near Dundonald, or from a place so called in the barony of Inchestuir.Scottish and Irish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Thomáis, Mac Thómais (see McComb). In part of western Ireland, Holmes is a variant of Cavish (from Gaelic Mac Thámhais, another patronymic from Thomas).

The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis

"Holmes was a student at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver, until he withdrew in June. Asked about her son’s possible involvement, Holmes’ mother said, apparently with gut instinct, “You have the right person...”