This guy thinks Obama's plan is to become dictator and take over the world. The sad part is he's not the only one who thinks this.

I just don't understand what it is that makes people act so irrational and absurd to the point that they turn into this...Do they all have some sort of mental defect?

I'm posting this video because most people will go the theaters to see whatever horror movie that's been done a hundred times when the real horror stories can be found right on youtube apparently. I may sound a bit harsh, but once you watch this video you'll see that the word scary is an understatement.

Edited by Mike (01/18/0901:07 PM)

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It doesn't shock or amaze me. If they'd elected Bob Squarepants, I'm pretty sure some would see him as the future fascist leader of the Illuminati craving for world domination. It doesn't matter whom is in control, there is always going to be at least one that sees a big conspiracy behind it or digs out some ancient piece of text that fits. The internet only made the loonies a tiny bit more visible. It's all about the 15 minutes of fame here. If you can't make it on television, go youtube.

That's what I'd like to know. For people at this point you really can't blame it on their faith or the bible...This is just purely ridiculous, yet at the same time somewhat entertaining. He kind of reminds me of someone that would be interviewed in a religious documentary film to be laughed at. If he was a Scientologist I could easily see this video being mocked by the cast of Saturday Night Live.

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The American flag is hung wrong... unless this man's intention was "distress", which would make sense, given his crazy rantings... but I thought it was supposed to be "up-side down". Is this another form of the "inverted flag" of which I'm unaware?

It's interesting to note, that he states something like, "The people wanted to rule themselves and not be ruled by god. So God GAVE THEM a King. The king's name was Sol. Sol, only had his own interests in mind....." (Not an exact quote)

My point is, that according to this, God gave the people a selfish and faulty King. The perfect being again is acting in an imperfect manner, by giving out products with defects.

Eh, whatever.

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Obviously. I never said they didn't, although I think one would agree that it is sometimes better to keep it to yourself, especially when it is as offensive as this to so many people. There's voicing your opinion, and there's forcing your opinion. Plus, this idiot was putting many people down. Sure some peoples opinions can be offensive without there being much trouble, but people like this guy just cross the line.

Edited by Mike (01/19/0912:09 PM)

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My point is, that according to this, God gave the people a selfish and faulty King. The perfect being again is acting in an imperfect manner, by giving out products with defects.

This also shows that people don't get what they ask for from god. As you quoted, the people wanted to rule themselves, but instead god was an asshole and sent them a faulty king. Was he trying to prove a point that men cannot rule each other? Wouldn't this be enough to make this idiot realize that Obama can be as good or as bad as any human that has ruled over man? I guess Christianity and mental deficiency go hand in hand. The level of stupidity this man shows goes wayyyy beyond the average bible bashing Christian. This is why I found this so scary, just the possibility that there are more people like him (which there certainly are).

I just don't see what others do that makes Obama so horrible. Sure I am young and don't have that much of a grasp on how politics work, but I do know enough to honestly say I don't think Obama will be half as horrible as his opposers claim. But what is it? Is it because he's part Islamic? Because he's black? Leave it to the ignorant racist Christian fundamentalists like this guy to stir shit up. Plus, the inverted flag in the background just made things even worse (and more confusing as to what the fuck this guy was trying to say). Did anyone even catch what the point this video was?

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The American flag is hung wrong... unless this man's intention was "distress", which would make sense, given his crazy rantings... but I thought it was supposed to be "up-side down". Is this another form of the "inverted flag" of which I'm unaware?

I don't think this guy is intelligent enough to make the connection between an upside down flag and the symbolism for distress. I think it probably just a coincedence, and if it is not, then he fucked up because the flag has to be upside down to become a distress call. Maybe he is dyslexic or something.

Mike seriously if this scares you then you may not be ready for the real world…

Originally Posted By: Mike

Obviously. I never said they didn't, although I think one would agree that it is sometimes better to keep it to yourself, especially when it is as offensive as this to so many people.

I can think of something more offensive and it is just one word… Hint it starts with an S and ends with a t… While I may not agree with what he says I will fight to see that he retains the right to say it…

Originally Posted By: Mike

There's voicing your opinion, and there's forcing your opinion. Plus, this idiot was putting many people down. Sure some peoples opinions can be offensive without there being much trouble, but people like this guy just cross the line.

Just like this forum Mike no one is forcing you to first search out such videos and then to sit through and watch it till the end…

Think for a moment what it would be like to live in a country where you could not say what you feel without fear of imprisonment or death… A nutjob maybe but at least he has the balls to film himself and put it out there in the wild on youtube for all to see… So he crosses where you draw your line… What would you rather see youtube censor him as they already have with many atheists?

He is a bible thumper as its best if you look at his other videos he has a message for Satanists as well as Atheists, Muslims, and Christians…

I would rather see 20 of these guys on youtube than be subjected to another Chris Crocker or the next generic fag that hits the tubes…

Of course the beauty of youtube is if you really dislike him so much or want to debate him you can make a video response to him, right on youtube… Did you reply to him at all Mike?

Thanks YouTube, for yanking yet again another cockroach from under a rock for it's 15 minutes of glory.

Thank Mike not youtube… Mike put this before you, then you chose to watch it…

Originally Posted By: spiderbreeder

Not to mention the stilted reading, the upside down flag, and the gaping crotch display... yuk.

Other than his mistake with the flag he is clean looking and seems to be trying to present himself well speaking in English not Ebonics…

Panty sniffer? Is this simply just because his views differ from your own? Do you possess the power to read peoples intentions and/or fetishes by watching an unrelated video? Or did you have an experience with someone who he reminds you of sniffing your knickers?

No I mostly sit on the bare floor while I type... Wearing no pants... I will leave out the details about the ice cubes and matches... Can't give away too many secrets...

It is beyond awesome that we live in a time and a place that we can speak our minds in a video (or on a forum) and share it with the world online... For all to agree or disagree with... If we are so inclined...

~T~

Edited by ta2zz (01/19/0909:41 PM)

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I wasn't literally scared, ta2zz, just a bit taken back due to the fact that I've never actually heard anyone that crazy talk before and act like he's right, or even worse doing some a favor. This "real" world so many people speak of must have hundreds if not thousands of people like this, correct? Perhaps this video made me that much more ready for the real world...

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Just like this forum Mike no one is forcing you to first search out such videos and then to sit through and watch it till the end…

I know that...I just happened to come across it and felt others on this site might have something to say, and of course by nature I'm curious (blame it on my age) to see what others would say. Not because I can't form an opinion by myself, simply because I wanted to see if anyone had something else to add or say to start a discussion.

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Ok, Thanks Mike. I could spend all day attacking what the idiot said, but why waste the energy?

And as for the people who are knocking his appearance and the way he presented the whole miserable package(myself included} I personally found it woefully lacking in aesthetic appeal, and attention to detail. He would have had an inkling that a hell of a lot of people were going to come across this, saying that,he could have thrown a lot more creative energy into the whole thing.If he was going to go to the effort of putting himself on the world stage,surely he would be aware of the fact that he is holding himself up to be judged on every aspect of the display that he has projected to the masses, and It's only natural that people are going to have a plethora of differing opinions on his mediocre take/presentation on things.

Regarding the Panty-sniffing angle, you are a very astute man Ta2zz, you really read between the lines there didn't you?

I had lived in many share accomodation houses in my late teens/early 20's, and this one fellow (who bears an uncanny resemblance to Mr Lawnchair-legspread up there) used to knock off us girl's intimate apparel.We were all wondering where our undies were vanishing to, until the day one of the girls went into his room to see him for some reason and spotted a pair draped over his bedside lamp, which just cosisted of a naked lightbulb.

He was not a popular man after that- that is no excuse for attributing the same fetish to the above gent, I know- perhaps that was abit remiss of me, but my mind just couldn't help drawing comparisons between the two.

Mike I know you live in NY, ever been to the city? I think NYC has to be a mega center of weirdos, as I would imagine most large city's are... Whether or not this video is preparing you for reality depends on how you react to such things... Reality is I have seen guys like this on street corners with megaphones spewing worse shit than this... Directly to and about me and my friend even...

I rarely blame anything on age Mike save that for the ageists... There have been members here before and may very well still be, in the silence that have spread a similar message... Some feel that America has been lost already, let us hope they are wrong shall we?

You might want to ask yourself these questions... What in this video made you feel a line was crossed? What in this video made you feel he was hurting peoples feelings and why do you care? How did you feel he was forcing his views on you when you admit control over watching the video...

Play till your fingers bleed...

~T~

Edited by ta2zz (01/19/0910:30 PM)Edit Reason: Removed a thought...

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"Do you feel that you are forced to look into this mans crotch while he's speaking or do you naturally look at his eyes like I do?

Lol, I can't speak for Mike, but {being female) and a self confessed Perve, it was THE visual focal point for me and even though I was highly unimpressed, my eyes just kept wandering back down there....

Mike I know you live in NY, ever been to the city? I think NYC has to be a mega center of weirdos, as I would imagine most large city's are... Whether or not this video is preparing you for reality depends on how you react to such things... Reality is I have seen guys like this on street corners with megaphones spewing worse shit than this... Directly to and about me and my friend even... ~T~

Amen to that, Ta2zz. I've been around the world, and the crazed exist everywhere. Some places are much more tolerant of them than others, but with the advent of the Internet, Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame is more or less assured by any loon with a camera and a message to share, no matter how psychotic or profound.

Regarding my Panty-sniffing housemate,I was initially very confused about the whole business of the missing panties being found draped over this dudes lamp until a more aware aquaintance woke me up to the fact that the heat from the lightbulb revives the aroma....

This is directed towards Mike and his post. (Thanks for posting was an interesting vid)

In today’s society there are vast assortments of controlling mechanisms in the media and elsewhere. That rearranges your self conceptions in order to encourage criticism towards others that have opinions that oppose the social collective.

You are a cog in the mechanism if you cannot retrieve anything of value but only focus on this man and his downfalls.

People very often project insecurities onto others instead of dealing with the abundance of suppressed behaviour themselves. This is easy to do, and separates the accuser from his true identity. Thus he does not have to commit to self reflection of himself but attempts to destroy it through another. Of course this is an illusion and cannot fully separate the projection from the self, but lives through the projection. Many people can observe this if they are aware.

You posted a great video, and yet you slander it completely, contributing nothing of value.

You are a cog in the mechanism if you cannot retrieve anything of value but only focus on this man and his downfalls.

I did get something out of this video, the realization that people can actually reach a level of stupidity/ignorance displayed by the man in this video. As ta2zz stated, if I found this scary then I'm not ready for the real world. This helped prepare me for it in a sense...I know that much more about people in general.

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You posted a great video, and yet you slander it completely, contributing nothing of value.

You say it was a great video, but what was so great about it? It serves the purpose of exactly what I've stated. It was supposed to be a message to people to inform them on Obama's intentions as president according to the man in the video.

And you say I contribute nothing of value, however you thanked me for posting the video. My intentions weren't to add anything to the table, the video speaks for itself. I was merely trying to spark a discussion, as I said in an earlier post.

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People very often project insecurities onto others instead of dealing with the abundance of suppressed behaviour themselves. This is easy to do, and separates the accuser from his true identity. Thus he does not have to commit to self reflection of himself but attempts to destroy it through another. Of course this is an illusion and cannot fully separate the projection from the self, but lives through the projection. Many people can observe this if they are aware.

And by that I suppose you mean he's full of shit? That's what I was trying to point out, only not in as many words.

So since you were so fast to point out I contributed nothing of value to this thread, allow me to ask exactly what it is that you have brought to this discussion?

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Hmmm using something I said to try to make your one-liner about your panty-sniffing fetish more palatable are we?

Originally Posted By: 6Satan6Archist6

Originally Posted By: ta2zz

While I may not agree with what he says I will fight to see that he retains the right to say it…

I had no idea that you were actually Abraham Lincoln. Wierd.

And now for something completely different....

Wow something different eh? I knew that what I was saying was very close to a famous quote… The quote of which you are thinking is “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”…

Abraham Lincoln heh that is funny… Too bad you pulled that out of your ass like most everything else you say… As usual you sure as fuck didn’t do any research at all before posting… But I suppose in your usual way you can try to save face by saying you were talking of the other A. Lincoln the one named Voltaire or more correctly Evelyn Beatrice Hall… Or maybe trying to pull off that you were making a joke? Whatever…

~T~

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From a satanists point of view the mans stupidity is only a bad thing because you dont agree with it.

Or because we see it as stupid...This is true with anything we perceive. No one said it's a "bad" thing that he's stupid per-se. I myself find him to be stupid in an irrational way, for I can't see his logic. It's not that I disagree with him that makes him stupid to me, it's the fact that I cannot see his reasoning and how he came to his conclusion with the same information anyone else has.

You are right that I don't agree with him, but I could disagree with the opinion of the smartest man in the world and still not see him as being stupid. What I mean is that it's his failure to present his case logically that makes me see him as being stupid, not the fact that our opinions differ. Disagreeing with someone only makes them seem stupid if they're arguing about something they know nothing about and you fell you have a decent grasp on.

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-Well had I felt it necessary to adress the world on something I felt so strongly about, I would go through the trouble to manipulate my environment enough to, at the least, be taken seriously.

(Pitiful really, attack what he says not his chair…)

-To be honest I had stopped listening about a quarter of the way in and decided, as drab as it is, that the background was more interesting than the intent of the video. I would find it "pitiful really" to be the sucker who actually sat and listened to him the whole time. That person is a churches poster child, shit they would love him.

He doesn't come off crazy or scary. He comes off concerned. He's concerned about the state of things in 2009, flash-forward to 2014 most mainstream media commentators make similar claims.

If you put the religious significance of the passage aside, he's just using it to couch his ideas. He puts faith in God, he believes that when people get away from the guidance of God's word, it puts the nation in distress. The 'king' isn't the idyllic leader many voters hoped for. That appears to be what he's honed in on as well as the way this President operates. Away from Congressional support, away from Constitutionality. Plenty have called him Dictator . It's not just the Dems and the Republicans, even Liberals have made this claim.

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George Washington University Law School Professor, Jonathan Turley, speaking regarding the House GOP’s lawsuit against Obama for unconstitutionally using executive orders, issued a chilling statement on Wednesday, saying that “this could be a historic moment.”

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The Basic Education system may as well update the curriculum for Government taught to High Schoolers.

Betty Mason, a Republican donor who is married to a longtime leader of Alabama's Republican Party, posed the question in a letter she mailed last week to voters in DeKalb County, which covers a rural community in the northeast corner of the state.

"Obama is determined to be a dictator with the executive orders he signs," she wrote. "He has left the US Constitution in shreds. If Obama decides to run again (against US law) or declares a National Emergency to suspend elections in 2016, what will our Democrat sheriff do? I am concerned he will go along with this lawless president."