Interviewer:...Alright, Mr. Janney, it seems that the Santa Barbara conference that went on out in California has been getting attacked a lot lately. What I'd like to do is talk about sitka (CTKA ?) because our friend Mr. Philip Nelson which I did an interview and also a video with him seems to be such a credible person and the information that he brings forward seems to be very straight up and it appears that he can't get on shows, you know the normal shows like Black Op radio and it seems like the CTKA, Citizens for the Truth about the Kennedy Assassination is um....seems sometimes unfairly not allowing these books to even, only to severely criticize them when they appear, to me to be just so loaded with so much real history that's so hard for us to get. So can you comment on that?

Peter Janney: Well, this is James DiEugenio at his best or at his worst, however you want to look at it. As I've said many times, I think there is an effort out there for this guy, Mr. DiEugenio, to attempt to destroy the credibility of anyone who comes along who doesn't fall into line behind Mr. DiEugenio. I've confronted him in various articles that have been published on the web. He certainly trashed my book as he's trashed any number of books and so I make it a point to ignore people like this as best as possible. I-I don't think James DiEugenio is all he believes that he is and I have had a number of arguments with people, uh, in terms of how they just obsequiosly follow him and hang on every word, I think that's a very dangerous habit to get into.

For me, and I think for a lot of people who have been involved in assassination research with regard to JFK and even Robert Kennedy, one of the best books if not the best book in my opinion is James Douglass's JFK and the Unspeakable. I read that book (unintelligible ...host interrupts) I, well what's great about it is it's extremely well researched. I have talked to Mr. Douglass on a number of occassions, I've read his book two or three times. I think he has written one of the most compelling protraits of President Kennedy and what happened during his administration and what happened at the time of hia assassination. So for anyone who is confused or feels overwhelmed by what's coming at them in terms of this dimension, I think that is the best book for anyone to read if they're, if they're really serious about understanding what happened. I really can't say more about CTKA than that. It's upsetting to me that this in fact goes on, because there are soooo many researchers who have made so many different kinds of contributions to this arena.

Interviewer: I can completely agree with you on that. In closing, what you would you say to the people that are really trying to understand the JFK Assassination, and one question I did have for you is that Mr. Phil Nelson's book seems to parallel the book you just talked about, Mr. Douglass's book, other than it was critical of JFK in a sense. It seems to me that there are certain areas you can't go to, like no criticising the Kennedys or no bashing LBJ or certain places it seems certain places it seems like you can't go. It's a two part question, what do you think about Mr. Nelson's book as far as paralleling the other and what do you think about giving some advice to people who are really trying to understand the most complex of things with more disinformation, then how do you go astray than anywhere else?

Peter Janney: Well, I've looked at Mr. Nelson's book, I haven't read it cover to cover, but I don't think LBJ was the mastermind of the JFK Assassination. The mastermind of the JFK Assassination was the national security apparatus and they had their thumb on LBJ just as much as the had their thumb on JFK, but in a different way, and what I mean by that is specifically this. LBJ knew that he was headed for jail, I mean that he was headed for ruin given what he'd been involved with in the early 1960's. He was not going to be on the democratic ticket with JFK in 1964. The CIA knew this, LBJ knew this, and basically, LBJ had one way out and that was to cooperate with the effort that was going on behind the scenes to get rid of Kennedy.LBJ clearly played a major role in terms of not only getting the assassination set up and then the cover up that took place afterwards. But I think it is incorrect to say that he alone was the ringleader, and that's where I take exception to Mr. Nelson's effort. It just doesn't, it doesn't fit with all the other pieces of evidence that we have pulled together in the last 50 years in terms of what really happened. You know, the CIA was using LBJ, I mean basically, they had their thumb on him and he knew that, you know this was, he had no other choice of course he was, you know, psycopathic and sociopathic enough to say well, you know, this is the only way I am going to be president anyway. Uh but uh he was not the mastermind of this effort. The mastermind was of the Kennedy Assassination, of both Kennedy Assassinations as well as Martin Luther King, was the national security complex, the military, industrial, intelligence, financial, complex. The, this conglomeration of power uh, did not want to be under the thumb of any emerging Kennedy dynasty and that's what they were looking at. They were looking at four more years of JFK in 1964, with Bobby Kennedy coming in right afterwards, and the possibility of Teddy Kennedy coming in after that. So they had to cut the snake off right at the head. And that's why JFK, that's one of the big reasons.

Fetzer: (Sounds pre-recorded) Peter Janney's book is completely brilliant, its sensational and its extrememly revealing, when a entity like CTKA with uh Jim DiEugenio, Seamus Coogan, and Lisa Pease would attack some of the most important work done on the assassination in the last 20 years, including of course Phil Nelson's brilliant piece, LBJ Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, but also Peter Janney's book, Mary's Mosaic, so you have to appreciate how profoundly it exposes those who are actually also, even with the JFK Assassination community, MOCKINGBIRD PARTICIPANTS when they undertake this kind of assault. Everyone has to listen to these presentations from the Santa Barbara conference and then read the reviews that had come from CTKA and put two and two together. Draw your own conclusions but it ought to be as obvious as it could possibly be, shocking, mockingbird persists to this very day! Ends @ 1:58:25

I can think of much more dangerous habits than hanging on Jim's every word, and as a previously tarred by Janney, "DiEugenio protege," I would have nothing to lose in the hanging on, except my pride. For the record, I have never contributed to a CTKA article, and I did not even respond to an invitation to do so.

How much of the subject matter in your OP and the accusations about the mil/intel manipulation of the Zapruder film's frames is a result of the spontaneity of elderly witnesses supplying details to Janney and Horne, and how much is a result of the influence of Janney and Horne?

Could Horne have been misled by Janney? There seems to be no story here without Janney. How discerning have either Janney or Horne been?.....

...You reduced this to "squabbles." If you keep Horne's name in your thread's title, your decision to do so indicates more about you and your priorities than about Horne and his. Be welcoming to those who find the truth and share it and disapproving of those who thwart or discourage the finding and sharing of truth.

I think there is an effort out there for this guy, Mr. DiEugenio, to attempt to destroy the credibility of anyone who comes along who doesn't fall into line behind Mr. DiEugenio.

I take great umbrage at this because I am living proof that it is far from true. Jim knows I do not fall into line behind him on every aspect of the case. In fact, there are parts of the case that Jim has supported, about which I have been stridently critical. Jim is well aware of that but has never let that deter him from helping me out where ever he could. That is a rare thing in this community.

_________________Mixing Pop and Politics he asks me what the use isI offer him embarrassment and my usual excusesWhile looking down the corridorOut to where the van is waitingI'm looking for the Great Leap Forward Billy Bragg-----------------------------Australians don't mind criminals: It's successful bullshit artists we despise. Lachie Hulme -----------------------------The Cold War ran on bullshit. Me

I think there is an effort out there for this guy, Mr. DiEugenio, to attempt to destroy the credibility of anyone who comes along who doesn't fall into line behind Mr. DiEugenio.

A much more appropriate sentence than the above would be:

"There is an effort out there for this guy, Mr. DiEugenio, to set the record straight as far as President Kennedy's assassination and legacy is concerned, and to refute utterly absurd theories concerning same."

On this edition of Real Politik James is joined by Peter Janney, author of Mary’s Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace. The book tells the story of Dr. Janney’s relationship with Pinchot Meyer and the quest to resolve her murder, the implications of which figure centrally in further explaining what took place on November 22, 1963.....

......Mary Meyer was brutally murdered with a handgun in broad daylight on October 12, 1964. An African-American day laborer, Roy Crump Jr., was prosecuted for the killing and successfully defended by legendary African-American attorney Dovey Roundtree.In January 2014 Janney deposed William Mitchell as part of a wrongful death civil lawsuit to procure information on Mitchell’s potential responsibility for Meyer’s murder. “I am still in the last stages of my research that I hope will pull the pieces together that may point to the fact that [William] Mitchell had a specific role in this event on October 12, 1964. But I do want to make clear that I no longer believe that he was the actual assassin.”

The only "lawsuit" this awful author ever announced was dismissed last November, just days before Janney misled a Santa Barbara audience attending the Cinque love fest, tellinghis listeners that the lawsuit was still active:

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The only positive thing to come out of this now two year old exposure of Janney's evidence free accusations hyped in his book is that a list of well known members of "the community" have been exposed as people not all that interested in truth or accuracy, but instead, intensely committed to covering each other's back. We leave them now, wagons circled, pondering the question of why they are involved in "researching" and writing about these topics, in the first place. Since they do not care about finding the truth and the best quality evidence, what motivates them, money, attention, team loyalty?

We will never see Janney write about his uncle, Time Inc. board member and the man who handed Henry Crown the keys to General Dynamics, the Rockefeller protege, Frank Pace.