But until the tides stop corresponding to the position of the moon, nobody is going to believe any suggestion that the tides are not driven mainly by the moon.

October 3, 1869, the amplitude of the tide in the Bay of Fundy was 5 meters.October 4, 1869 amplitude of the tide in the Bay of Fundy was 21 meters (Once in the history of observation).For one day in the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides increased from 5 to 21 meters, 4-fold.Question. What has changed in the Bay of Fundy in one day.1. Gravitation.2. The coastline3. Inclination of the moon.4. Rotational speed of the whirlpool.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1869_Saxby_Gale

Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.As I pointed out before, your precession theory would result in larger tides at the equator than anywhere else, so the onus is on you to provide the evidence.In reality the maximum tidal bulge follows the moon’s orbit which does not follow the equator. Many people mistakenly think it does and so make an incorrect assumption.

You say your "theory" solves all the problems.Please show us ho you would use it to calculate (as an example) the times of the next few high tides in London, New York or Barcelona or some other place where we can check.If you can't do that then your idea doesn't even solve the simplest problem.

Unfortunately you are avoiding answering @Bored chemist and looking at your post I can see why.

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool. And the height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the whirlpool of the orbital velocity of the Earth, and the time of the tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).A = V1 • V2 / twhere: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

The first problem with this formula is that it does not return an amplitude, it produces a number of square metres per second. That is clearly wrong.

As is known, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, possess the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.If you look at the Earth from the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, turn over twice a day, due to which the whirlpools precess (swing by 1-2 degrees) and reflect the tidal wave around the entire perimeter of the whirlpool.

A rigid gyroscope on earth will indeed align itself to the sidereal day which is 4mins shorter than the solar day. However, that gives a number of problems for your theory.Firstly, we know from observation that the main tide period is period is about 12hrs 25mins - half a lunar day - so two tides take 24hrs 50mins which is the average time for the Earth to rotate once relative to the Moon. This is a hugh difference from your difference of 4mins in 24hrs making your double tide period 23hrs 56mins. Clearly your predictions can never work with this theory.

Your precession theory is also flawed because we are not dealing with a rigid gyroscope, so rather than turning over the water level would rise at one edge until gravity restrained it, leading to a constant level.

The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.The list of seas with an average swirl speed of more than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm:Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasso Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Gulf of Alaska. etc..

The list of seas with an average swirl speed of less than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm:The Baltic Sea, the Greenland Sea, the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Caspian Sea, the Chukchi Sea, the Kara Sea, the Laptev Sea, the Red Sea, the Marmara Sea, the Caribbean Sea, the Sea of ​​Japan, the Gulf of Mexico, etc.Note: The height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the tides is not the same.

The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.The list of seas with an average swirl speed of more than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm:Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasso Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Gulf of Alaska. etc..

The list of seas with an average swirl speed of less than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm:The Baltic Sea, the Greenland Sea, the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Caspian Sea, the Chukchi Sea, the Kara Sea, the Laptev Sea, the Red Sea, the Marmara Sea, the Caribbean Sea, the Sea of ​​Japan, the Gulf of Mexico, etc.Note: The height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the tides is not the same.

You seem to have answered your own question.Google's translation of the page you cited says "In narrow places, in straits, tidal currents reach a tremendous speed. So in the narrow part of the White Sea - in the so-called Throat - tidal currents reach a speed of 15 kilometers per hour.

What are the causes of this phenomenon?

The main culprit of the tides is the Moon and, to a lesser extent, the Sun. "

The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.The list of seas with an average swirl speed of more than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm:Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasso Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Gulf of Alaska. etc..

The list of seas with an average swirl speed of less than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm:The Baltic Sea, the Greenland Sea, the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Caspian Sea, the Chukchi Sea, the Kara Sea, the Laptev Sea, the Red Sea, the Marmara Sea, the Caribbean Sea, the Sea of ​​Japan, the Gulf of Mexico, etc.Note: The height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the tides is not the same.

You seem to have answered your own question.Google's translation of the page you cited says "In narrow places, in straits, tidal currents reach a tremendous speed. So in the narrow part of the White Sea - in the so-called Throat - tidal currents reach a speed of 15 kilometers per hour.

What are the causes of this phenomenon?

The main culprit of the tides is the Moon and, to a lesser extent, the Sun. "

This is not an answer!If you do not know the answer, give the opportunity to answer another, or do not answer the question at all.

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The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.The list of seas with an average swirl speed of more than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm:Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasso Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Gulf of Alaska. etc..

The list of seas with an average swirl speed of less than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm:The Baltic Sea, the Greenland Sea, the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Caspian Sea, the Chukchi Sea, the Kara Sea, the Laptev Sea, the Red Sea, the Marmara Sea, the Caribbean Sea, the Sea of ​​Japan, the Gulf of Mexico, etc.Note: The height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the tides is not the same.

The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.The list of seas with an average swirl speed of more than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm:Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasso Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Gulf of Alaska. etc..

The list of seas with an average swirl speed of less than 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm:The Baltic Sea, the Greenland Sea, the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Caspian Sea, the Chukchi Sea, the Kara Sea, the Laptev Sea, the Red Sea, the Marmara Sea, the Caribbean Sea, the Sea of ​​Japan, the Gulf of Mexico, etc.Note: The height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the tides is not the same.

Please read this post carefully and you will be free from heresy.

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You consciously leave the answer.Call the sea where there are high tides, but there is no fast flow.

I'm sorry, but that made little sense.

The places where the tidal range is larger are generally where the tide is funneled into a bay or estuary.Because the tidal bulge (dragged by the moon's gravity) enters the funnel and travels along it, the same volume of water is forced into a narrow passage and so it has to get deeper.

You have already answered it for us. This link says nothing about rotation speeds of whirlpools, but does say:“What are the causes of this phenomenon?The main culprit of the tides is the Moon and, to a lesser extent, the Sun. The inhabitants of the sea coast have long noticed the connection of the tides with the movement of these luminaries.How does the Moon and the Sun affect the movement of water in the seas and oceans? That's how. It is known that the Moon moves around the Earth and that both planets move around the Sun. But since the Moon is many times closer to the Earth than the Sun, the Moon's attraction to the Earth is much stronger than the impact of the Sun. Naturally, this influence has the strongest and most visible effect on the liquid shell of our planet, that is, on the oceans and seas.If there were no continents and islands on the surface of the Earth and the whole Earth would be covered by water (also of equal depth), then the impact of the moon on this world ocean would have the following effect. In the region of the ocean closest to the Moon, due to attraction, there will be a rising of water to meet the Moon. At the same time, in the opposite part of the world ocean, the centrifugal force will also cause a rise in water. But since the rising of the water can not happen anywhere without a drop in the level elsewhere, this fall will occur in a strip perpendicular to the line of action of the moon. The moon circumnavigates the globe within 24 hours 50 minutes; Thus, it is obvious that the rising and lowering of waters as a result of the tidal wave following the movement of the Moon will take place twice a day in the world's oceans.We said that the Sun, due to its remoteness, has less impact on the ocean's waters. However, when the Moon and the Sun are aligned with the Earth on one straight line (in the new moon and the full moon), the particles of water will be under the influence of both luminaries, and, naturally, this will cause the greatest tide. But there may be an opposite phenomenon, when the Moon and the Sun are on lines perpendicular to each other. In this case, the forces of the two luminaries will be directed in different directions and will counteract each other. Obviously, and the tide will be at this moment the smallest.We considered this phenomenon now in the conditions of a boundless world ocean, but in fact, continents and islands divide the world ocean into separate oceans and various seas. The land impedes the free propagation of the tidal wave and introduces a great variety in the nature of this phenomenon.”

So as @Bored chemist says, you seem to be in agreement with us that the moon and sun are the primary reason for tides.

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