If the world wasn’t full of religiously-inspired homophobia, there would be no ‘stigma’ about being gay. Therefore, there would be no need for anyone to seek a ‘cure’. So why doesn’t this bunch of confused self-haters concentrate their efforts of erradicating a much more harmful and insidious problem than homosexuality? The homophobc bran-washing of innocent victims by religion?

What I find so extraordinary is that PFOX and NARTH claim they’ve cured thousands of people from the ‘gay’ but nobody knows who they are, nor have any come forward with the exception of Greg Quinlan. Even Alan Chambers. the former head of Exodus admits there is no cure. They’ve now ostracized him as a traitor to the cause.

None of their ‘cures’ have been accepted or published in any of the scientific or medical literarture. It’s all a scam to make money on the misery of vulnerable and insecure people.

The number of gay men whose sexual orientation has been changed to a heterosexual one by means of “ex-gay” therapy is somewhere between minuscule and zero. The “ex-gay” movement has now for some time been on its beam ends. It is not surprising, therefore, that its exponents should be trying to justify its existence by ever more fanciful and far-fetched arguments.

Another one being used at the moment is that making it illegal to inflict “ex-gay” abuse on minors will result in those who have been sexually abused being denied the psycho-therapeutic help that they need – a plain, coal-black lie.

Even if more men did undertake the therapy it still wouldn’t have made a jot of difference because you cannot change a person’s sexual orientation.
In the UK it was only thanks to a rigourous government aware campaign that the AIDS epidemic didn’t end up worse than it is now.

Next it will be the Ex Ex-Gay movement as more and more people who went to these quack groups only to eventually realise that they were being had, go to the press or Internet with their story.
Quite the extraordinary turnaround that now anti-gay micro-groups like this have cheek to pontificate about the shame and stigma of Coming Out.

Unfounded nonsense – Maybe ‘curing’ Heterosexual Men in Africa of eating Bush meat and F@*king their women without condoms – could have prevented a pandemic – although I seriously doubt it – But as all well informed – evolved people know Gay Men did not create this pandemic – neither, by the way, did a non existent deity floating in the sky begin it to punish gays!

From what I can understand this is related to the New Jersey (and California) laws banning, conversion / reparative / pray away thegay / ex-gay “therapy” which outlaw these practices being perpetrated on under 18’s.
And specifically JONAH being sued for their practices, harming people.

Apart from these practices and others not “working” they cause demonstratable lasting harm and some times result in suicide.
These present day “snake oil salesmen” are attempting to change nature to fit their “religious” beliefs inspite of the harm they leave in their wake. It is a form of child abuse and these people should be in jail, in my opinion.
Religious freedom does not encompass physical and phsycological damage and harm and rightly should have no exemption from the full force of the law.
These present laws in California and New Jersey are being challenged by these charalatans, they do not apply to adults – they should.

Um, why, precisely would you need the (limited) federal protection that GLBT persons receive? You’re ostensibly not gay anymore, so what do you need protecting from? I’ve not heard of any ex-gays (the small handful that may actually exist) being discriminated against or bullied or harassed or anything else, so why don’t you all just sit down and STFU.

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