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Some time ago I came across an online EBook, titled “Trance – Formation of America”. Now I’m pretty open minded, and not that easily shocked, but nevertheless what I found within the pages rendered me speechless, so speechless in fact, that I didn’t know what to think, or what to believe. For the next 6 months I didn’t mention it to another soul. Recently, however, I’ve had a few private discussions with Smeggy, and he encouraged me to throw this out of the floor, so to speak, and begin a discussion into this matter.

“Trance Formation of America” chronicles the life of Cathy O'Brien, a recovered survivor of the CIA's infamous MK-ULTRA Project Monarch mind-control operation, and of Mark Phillips, the ex-CIA operative who rescued her (and her daughter Kelly) in 1988 from certain death, and helped her recover her memories and regain some control over her life. Cathy O'Brien's troubles began at birth (in 1957) when her family subjected her to constant abuse. As she grew up, her father ensnared her in a corrupt paedophile ring and eventually sold her out to he CIA, where, under the auspices of Project Monarch, she became a mind-controlled White House sex slave, deprived of any love, free-will or self-respect, and forced to endure drug and electro-induced torture.

By the time you have read the following short quotes from the book, which cites individuals, names names (and WHAT names?!) and clearly and precisely documents locations, I have no doubt that you will be wondering, as I have, how it can possibly be that Cathy and Mark have not been sued, - or indeed liquidated! - by the powers that be. Far from it in fact, for the book has been published in both paperback and hardback, and is available certainly through at least two major retailers, Barns & Noble and Amazon Books.

Without further ado, I’m going to give you a few random quotes taken directly from the book. At the bottom of the quotes there is a link to one of the numerous conferences that Cathy and Mark have been holding worldwide, beginning, I believe, in around 1995.

Loyalty to the sovereign of our country is non existent under New World Orders."President" Clinton poses no more leadership or loyalty to our country than Ronald Reagan did since both follow(ed) New World Order directives from former U.N. Ambassador and CIA DIRECT or George Bush, Hillary Clinton is the only female to become sexually aroused at the sight of my mutilated vagina.

Hall's wife ordered me to take my clothes off while Hillary watched. "Is she clean?" Hillary asked, meaning disease free."Of course, she's Byrd's," she responded, continuing the conversation as though I were not there, "Plus, I heard Houston say something about her being a Presidential Model, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.""It means she's clean," Hillary said matter-of-factly as she stood up.I was not capable of giving thought to such things back then, but I am aware in retrospect that all Presidential Model slaves I knew seemed to have an immunity to social diseases. It was a well known fact in the circles I was sexually passed around in that government level mind-controlled sex slaves were "clean" to the degree that none of my abusers took precautions such as wearing condoms.Hall's wife patted the bed and instructed me to display the mutilation.Hillary exclaimed, "God!" and immediately began performing oral sex on me.Apparently aroused by the carving in my vagina, Hillary stood up and quickly peeled out of her matronly nylon panties and pantyhose. Uninhibited despite a long day in the hot sun, she gasped, "Eat me, oh, god, eat me now". I had no choice but to comply with her orders, and Bill Hall's wife made no move to join me in my distasteful task. Hillary had resumed examining my hideous mutilation and performing oral sex on me when Bill Clinton walked in. Hillary lifted her head to ask, "How'd it go?"Clinton appeared totally unaffected by what he walked into, tossed his jacket on a chair and said, "It's official. I'm exhausted. I'm going to bed."I put my clothes on as ordered, and Hall's wife drove me back down to the mansion where Houston was waiting for me. The meeting apparently had been a success. I heard discussions throughout the remaining years between Houston, his agent Reggie MacLaughlin, and Loretta Lynn's handler, Ken Riley pertaining to Hall's successful branch of the CIA cocaine operation emanating from Arkansas, No discussions were as poignant and revealing as those between Alex Houston and CIA operative country music entertainer Boxcar Willie.

Later, in his bedroom, Reagan accessed my sexual programming, and I became "my part" as a prostitute to "Uncle Ronnie". Reagan did not move during sex. After all, that was "my duty". And my duty was to please him, whatever it took, and it took more time than anything. Reagan never hurt me (he always made sure someone else did that) and used this as a "bond" to the little child ("Kitten") personality he always accessed for sex. Reagan's most apparent personality kink was his love for bestiality pornography.2 According to my handlers, his passion for pornography escalated its manufacture and distribution during his Administration. He wholeheartedly approved and encouraged the porn industry for funding covert activity.Many commercial and instructional (private) pornography films I and others participated in, referred to as "Uncle Ronnie's Bedtime Stories," were manufactured solely for his pleasure-oftentimes according to his instruction, using Freedom Train slaves. After my initial meeting with Reagan, I was used in numerous films that were produced predominantly at Youngstown Charm School and/or by his "Chief Pornographer"3 Michael Dante, specifically to satisfy his perversions. These included a wide range of cryptic themes, but were mostly bestiality. Reagan often watched the videos while I was prostituted to him, requiring me to re-enact the porn however possible.

Cheney roughly grabbed my hair and pulled my head back, got right in my face and said, "Or, I'll get her, my pretty, your little girl. Follow orders as though her life depends upon it because it does. Or the next baby's ear will be taken from Kelly. So listen. When you see the baby's ear, you will listen," He spun my head in the direction of the hourglass as he released my hair. He was sneering and Simpson looked as though he thought Cheney overdid it. I was relieved it would not be my job to "soothe Cheney's savage beast" sexually that day.Cheney look me back to the White Rouse office where we had started. He and Reagan shared another drink. Reagan patted my hair back in place where Cheney had pulled it, which made me feel safe somehow since I could not comprehend that he was behind my ordeal with Cheney. Reagan switched my personality to where I no longer regarded him as "Chief," but instead as "Uncle Ronnie", He did this by reaching into his Jelly Belly jar and giving me one.Certain colors and flavors triggered certain programmed responses. Uncle Ronnie must have had other "Kittens" conditioned to the military green watermelon ones because he kept an excess amount of these in his numerous jars.Cheney said, "How in the hell you drink cognac and eat those goddamn jelly beans is beyond me.Reagan responded, "Well, Dick, you don't have to have a Jelly Belly if you don't want to. I was just giving one to Kitten, here."

I haven't been idle over the 6 months since finding this document and before posting this thread, I did some research myself, on the quiet, found some more material related to the book, and as well as that a number of related “Talks/Conferences” (on video) by the subject's involved, and before long I found myself starting a full scale personal inquiry into something that, if true, is the most shocking, - indeed horrific and despicable, - systematic cabal of child slavery, paedophilia and drugs-running (on an absolutely massive scale), by a number of combined, and highly influential organisations, that to name just a few, includes:

Wake up, smell the coffee, this sort of sexual exploitation is not rare. It goes on in the upper echelons of administration across the world.

It's not for us mere mortals to question why.

Politicians have to chill out occasionally after all the pressures and tensions they have to face in their daily lives. None of this is news to me, it's history, and it doesn't surprise me one little bit. It's also a book that makes money for the author and all those connected to it.

Joe's Girl wrote:The fact that one human being can force another to not only have sex, but perform a particular sexual act against their inclination and preference, is totally abhorrent to me.

I'd like to believe it is all a load of old poop, but am resigned to the possibility that it is true.

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I have no doubt that it is true. If it isn't, someone is in for a serious libel writ that could cost them millions of dollars. Y That's why I believe it's true. No author or credible publisher would be that stuoid to go ahead and print wothout the facts and the evidence. If Bill Clinton can do it, (Monica Lewinski in mind)..why can't Hillary do likewise.

Joe's Girl wrote:The fact that one human being can force another to not only have sex, but perform a particular sexual act against their inclination and preference, is totally abhorrent to me.

I'd like to believe it is all a load of old poop, but am resigned to the possibility that it is true.

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I have no doubt that it is true. If it isn't, someone is in for a serious libel writ that could cost them millions of dollars. Y That's why I believe it's true. No author or credible publisher would be that stuoid to go ahead and print wothout the facts and the evidence. If Bill Clinton can do it, (Monica Lewinski in mind)..why can't Hillary do likewise.

Equality of the sexes and all that stuff comes into play, doesn't it?

Have you actually read this book, Rocky? Or even skimmed it?

If you have then I'm very surprised that all you have to say about it is, ah well, the upper echelons of administration have always been up for a bit of "sexual exploitation"!

I'm sorry but you're making a big mistake if you think this is about whether or not Hillary Clinton is "at it"?!?

Thousands of American children being not just sold as mind controlled sex slaves, and victims of brutal incestuous parents, but actually bred for the purpose?

And then tortured (and mutilated) into such mental and physical trauma as to allow their young, impressionable minds to splinter into fragmented so-called "multiple personalities"??

After which they can be used not only as sex-slaves, but as drug-runners, assassins and spies for the CIA??

"Programmed" first hand for their usefulness/pleasure by Presidents/Presidential Administrations of civilised western countires such as Britain and the United States?

I'm afraid your glib answer and "wooden spoon" attempt to stir a response just doesn't cut it with me.

Read the book. Watch the video. And then come back here, when you have something that's actually worth saying.

I live in England and I am not too concerned about what goes on in America, but I read an article once concerning young females in Muslim societies being mutilated as a means of protecting their virginity for their future husbands.....Is there any difference?

If I were you I would forget about what goes on within the upper echelons of the US administration.These are powerful people and they can literally get away with murder, so it's not worth getting a headache over. As I have already stated, 'Ours is not to reason why' The kind of sexual behaviour that you and your link refers to is part and parcel of our decadent western, society, always has been, always will be. The only thing that ever changes in this life is the weather.

I wasn't put on this planet to be the arbiter or judge of human morals, nor should you be. I just live my life within the law as far as that's possible and I am not surprised at what goes on around the world.

Most governments are corrupt from top to bottom. That's something we have to live with, and WE elect them to high office.

Personally I believe it's good to question and good to speak out against any injustices in this world. The world has slowly gotten more civilised over the centuries, despite the atrocities still being committed in certain pockets of the world, and it's only by continuing to speak out and support those that can do something that it may continue to improve.

Rocky is right that 'Most governments are morally corrupt from top to bottom.' but I don't agree that we should just have a laissez-faire attitude.

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smeggypants wrote:Personally I believe it's good to question and good to speak out against any injustices in this world. The world has slowly gotten more civilised over the centuries, despite the atrocities still being committed in certain pockets of the world, and it's only by continuing to speak out and support those that can do something that it may continue to improve.

Rocky is right that 'Most governments are morally corrupt from top to bottom.' but I don't agree that we should just have a laissez-faire attitude.

Indeed, history is nothing more than a tableau of crimes and misfortunes.

I remain very skeptical about this. As does ghostgirl. Sure seems far fetched but then truth can be stranger than fiction sometimes.

Some stuff abut the CIA's MK-ULTRA program. it seems it did at least exist.

Wikipedia article says

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an "extensive testing and experimentation" program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens "at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign." Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to "unwitting subjects in social situations." At least one death, that of Dr. [Frank] Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers.[8]

To this day most specific information regarding Project MKULTRA remains highly classified.

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Lets not forget that billions of people believe in an invisible man in the sky.If that's not psychological manipulation then what is.I haven't as yet seen the vid or read much about this topic, but what I have read is a topic I feel needs to be looked at from different aspects.We know it may not be true, but isn't it better to have read a book and not liked it than to have never read that book. Knowledge isn't something you just automatically know, you have to discover it, and sometimes it falls into your lap, like now. Thanks GG.Think I'll stop drinking now lol.

Stanley Tweedle wrote:Lets not forget that billions of people believe in an invisible man in the sky.If that's not psychological manipulation then what is.I haven't as yet seen the vid or read much about this topic, but what I have read is a topic I feel needs to be looked at from different aspects.We know it may not be true, but isn't it better to have read a book and not liked it than to have never read that book. Knowledge isn't something you just automatically know, you have to discover it, and sometimes it falls into your lap, like now. Thanks GG.Think I'll stop drinking now lol.

No don't stop drinking if you're going to make posts like that!!!

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Smeggy is right, I do remain sceptical, just as I remain sceptical of god, religion and a whole lot of other stuff.

Sceptical, but nevertheless open-minded.

It's outright cynicism, or what might be termed jaded negativity, that really frustrates me tho, because if we all have that attitude then we shouldn't be surprised that some people literally get away with corruption, torture and murder. What's to stop them, after all, when, so long as it's extreme enough to almost defy belief, then that's exactly what happens, we all fail to believe it.

Funny I remember watching a documentary about Mark Chapman ...American made ...he must have flown back and forth about 11 times and all the time I am thinking ...where did he get the money he was out of work and broke ...but they never exlained that part ...and nor did I expect them to ...bit I am convinced JL was picked out for elimination by the CIA ...his peace message was so strong !