The Eddie Berganza Situation - Captain Comics2018-12-19T09:28:03Zhttp://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?feed=yes&xn_auth=no"Why didn't you report it at…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-16:3370054:Comment:5486262017-11-16T20:25:40.570ZClarkKent_DChttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/ClarkKent_DC
<p>"Why didn't you report it at the time?" </p>
<p>I don't get, and never have, why not reporting at the time, somehow discredits or disqualifies the veracity of an allegation. We know there are several reasons why people don't report at the time; how does not reporting at the time make things untrue? </p>
<p>"Why didn't you report it at the time?" </p>
<p>I don't get, and never have, why not reporting at the time, somehow discredits or disqualifies the veracity of an allegation. We know there are several reasons why people don't report at the time; how does not reporting at the time make things untrue? </p> Yes, as I assume most women k…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-16:3370054:Comment:5486232017-11-16T19:57:38.370ZCaptain Comicshttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/CaptainComics
<p>Yes, as I assume most women know, but most men have to learn, if you report abuse, you're labeled (formally or informally) a troublemaker or malcontent and your days are numbered.</p>
<p>That's one answer to the oft-asked question (by men), "Why didn't you report it at the time?"</p>
<p>Yes, as I assume most women know, but most men have to learn, if you report abuse, you're labeled (formally or informally) a troublemaker or malcontent and your days are numbered.</p>
<p>That's one answer to the oft-asked question (by men), "Why didn't you report it at the time?"</p> Captain Comics said:
CK said:…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-16:3370054:Comment:5486222017-11-16T19:53:00.713ZClarkKent_DChttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/ClarkKent_DC
<p><cite>Captain Comics said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548218&amp;xg_source=activity#3370054Comment548218"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>CK said: "I don't have absolute faith in either the fairness nor the impartiality of human resources departments. HR is a tool of upper management, and can only be as good as upper management allows."</strong></p>
<p><span>Man, is that ever the…</span></p>
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<p><cite>Captain Comics said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548218&amp;xg_source=activity#3370054Comment548218"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><strong>CK said: "I don't have absolute faith in either the fairness nor the impartiality of human resources departments. HR is a tool of upper management, and can only be as good as upper management allows."</strong></p>
<p><span>Man, is that ever the truth. Every HR dept. I've ever been worked with was absolutely there to protect management and enforce its will. In my last job at the newspaper, we even had to do all the personnel stuff ourselves (attend to our own insurance, fill out our own timesheets, etc.), so what did HR do? What I said above: Protect management, and enforce their will. No dealings with HR were ever in service to the employee.</span></p>
<p><span>Heads up to all my fellow Legionnaires: If you've got an HR department that appears solicitous and helpful, keep your guard up.</span></p>
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<p>To illustrate the point, here's something from today's <em>Washington Post</em>: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2017/11/15/they-were-sexually-harassed-at-work-they-reported-it-heres-what-happened/?utm_term=.d3ee64fd0dcf" target="_blank">"They were sexually harassed at work. They reported it. Here’s what happened."</a></p>
<p>Take note of this comment: </p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Genece, assembly line worker:</strong> The day after I wrote the report about him rubbing my shoulders, someone from HR told me: “Everything’s taken care of. He’s going to stop.” A week later, they let him go. Right after that, they let me go, too. They said my position had been eliminated. My husband still works at the factory, so I know that’s not true.</p>
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<p>and this one:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Shannon, sales representative:</strong> I wrote a seven-page document for HR about the hostile work environment. Within a month, I was put on a plan to “improve my performance,” and my commission was taken away.</p>
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<p>Another heads up: When HR puts you on a "performance improvement plan," your job is over; it's about concocting the paper trail to cover their tracks. </p> CK said: "I don't have absolu…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-16:3370054:Comment:5482182017-11-16T16:17:42.586ZCaptain Comicshttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/CaptainComics
<p><strong>CK said: "I don't have absolute faith in either the fairness nor the impartiality of human resources departments. HR is a tool of upper management, and can only be as good as upper management allows."</strong></p>
<p><span>Man, is that ever the truth. Every HR dept. I've ever been worked with was absolutely there to protect management and enforce its will. In my last job at the newspaper, we even had to do all the personnel stuff ourselves (attend to our own insurance, fill out our…</span></p>
<p><strong>CK said: "I don't have absolute faith in either the fairness nor the impartiality of human resources departments. HR is a tool of upper management, and can only be as good as upper management allows."</strong></p>
<p><span>Man, is that ever the truth. Every HR dept. I've ever been worked with was absolutely there to protect management and enforce its will. In my last job at the newspaper, we even had to do all the personnel stuff ourselves (attend to our own insurance, fill out our own timesheets, etc.), so what did HR do? What I said above: Protect management, and enforce their will. No dealings with HR were ever in service to the employee.</span></p>
<p><span>Heads up to all my fellow Legionnaires: If you've got an HR department that appears solicitous and helpful, keep your guard up.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Rob said: "And some late books and some rocky months ahead is a small price to pay for excising that creep."</strong></p>
<p><span>Agreed.</span></p> Bleeding Cool is reporting th…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-14:3370054:Comment:5484762017-11-14T20:30:23.090ZRob Staeger (Grodd Mod)http://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/RobStaeger
<p>Bleeding Cool is reporting that DC's scheduling will probably be thrown into chaos for a while with the departure of Berganza. Part of the reason he had such staying power despite his unsavory character was what he was so integral to getting things out on time. On the other hand, this is a GREAT opportunity for younger editors to step up and show what they can do. Berganza was co-editing <i>Metal</i> with Rebecca Taylor, so she'll be taking the reins solo for the remainder; I'm sure she has…</p>
<p>Bleeding Cool is reporting that DC's scheduling will probably be thrown into chaos for a while with the departure of Berganza. Part of the reason he had such staying power despite his unsavory character was what he was so integral to getting things out on time. On the other hand, this is a GREAT opportunity for younger editors to step up and show what they can do. Berganza was co-editing <i>Metal</i> with Rebecca Taylor, so she'll be taking the reins solo for the remainder; I'm sure she has it well in hand.</p>
<p>And some late books and some rocky months ahead is a small price to pay for excising that creep.</p> Richard Willis said:
I thin…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-14:3370054:Comment:5483842017-11-14T00:31:04.922ZClarkKent_DChttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/ClarkKent_DC
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Richard Willis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548299&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548300"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I think their nonresponse was more to do with alumni money than anything else.</div>
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<p>... which still isn't putting the interests of children first.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Richard Willis said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548299&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548300"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I think their nonresponse was more to do with alumni money than anything else.</div>
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<p>... which still isn't putting the interests of children first.</p>
<p></p> I think their nonresponse was…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-14:3370054:Comment:5483002017-11-14T00:13:56.506ZRichard Willishttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/RichardWillis
I think their nonresponse was more to do with alumni money than anything else.
I think their nonresponse was more to do with alumni money than anything else. I've heard people say that th…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-13:3370054:Comment:5484672017-11-13T23:31:16.649ZRob Staeger (Grodd Mod)http://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/RobStaeger
<p>I've heard people say that the best response would be to tear down the stadium and leave the statue as an explanation as to why.</p>
<p>I've heard people say that the best response would be to tear down the stadium and leave the statue as an explanation as to why.</p> Wandering Sensei: Moderator M…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-13:3370054:Comment:5483832017-11-13T22:49:13.654ZClarkKent_DChttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/ClarkKent_DC
<p><cite>Wandering Sensei: Moderator Man said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548299&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548299"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>See the Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno situation a few years back...<br></br><cite><br></br></cite></p>
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<p>Yeah. I remember arguing with an idiot supervisor I had when that was going on; he thought it was so, so terrible that Penn…</p>
<p><cite>Wandering Sensei: Moderator Man said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548299&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548299"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>See the Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno situation a few years back...<br/><cite><br/></cite></p>
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<p>Yeah. I remember arguing with an idiot supervisor I had when that was going on; he thought it was so, so terrible that Penn State took down the Joe Paterno statue. I disagreed, because the record reflects that when Paterno and Penn State were told about Jerry Sandusky, their response was to tie their blindfolds tighter, take his keys away and tell him, "we don't know what you did, but whatever you do, don't do it here."</p>
<p>Ultimately, that whole situation came down to the institution putting the interests of a child molester over the interests of children. </p> See the Jerry Sandusky/Joe Pa…tag:captaincomics.ning.com,2017-11-13:3370054:Comment:5482992017-11-13T21:48:55.168ZWandering Sensei: Moderator Manhttp://captaincomics.ning.com/profile/JeffCarter
<p>See the Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno situation a few years back...<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Rob Staeger (Grodd Mod) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548380&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548181"><div><p>I think that's going to cause trouble for DC down the line, too. One more reason (as if we needed one) to excise these predators from a company completely -- if you choose a minimalist response,…</p>
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<p>See the Jerry Sandusky/Joe Paterno situation a few years back...<br/> <br/> <cite>Rob Staeger (Grodd Mod) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://captaincomics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-eddie-berganza-situation?page=2&amp;commentId=3370054%3AComment%3A548380&amp;x=1#3370054Comment548181"><div><p>I think that's going to cause trouble for DC down the line, too. One more reason (as if we needed one) to excise these predators from a company completely -- if you choose a minimalist response, new revelations (or just increased publicity) can make any leniency seem like the actions of a co-conspirator, and any further actions you take on the original allegations can be used against you in a double-jeopardy way.</p>
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