The Highlander is a polite suburban vehicle which is sorta 4WD. The FJ Cruiser is a serious off-road vehicle. They are not comparable vehicles at all. I seriously considered getting an FJ when they came out, partly to get a more rugged off-road vehicle to replace my first Honda Element... and partly because Toyota is the home-team here (big engine/transmission plant just down the road). But the gas mileage was even worse than my Element so I just got another Element. The Element is better for carrying all my equipment in anyway. It's 4WD but just barely.

I'd been kinda-sorta looking at Ford SUVs for sort of the same reason given here for Toyota. I don't suppose that I'll be getting a new car any time soon, but I've never actually gotten to *chose* before, so I don't know how.

If Pogo really bought a Toyota for this reason then he is not too bright [which we knew anyway]. This isn't a government-thing; it's a Toyota corporate thing. The Prius story may be false. But the other braking issues were true - and something Toyota clearly ignored for years. To buy a Toyota now is to pretty much excuse their malfeance. Toyota deserves to be punished by consumers. And they are. Their sales are way down.

What Pogo doesn't realize is that the enemy is Toyota not the government. But then if the government ignored Toyota and let them slide then Pogo would be mad that the government wasn't doing anything.

FJ Cruiser is a good choice, despite the styling appealing to 16 year old girls. A nice solid platform that will probably be fit for lots of environments for a long time.

Highlanders are minivans styled to look kinda like jeeps. If you want one of those, the Highlander is the best one in the world, but it's not a sporty vehicle you would want to use in an adventure worth having.

I'm a Honda man (their SUVs are inferior to Toyota, but I don't like SUVs). The only thing that makes me want to buy a Toyota over a Honda is the idea of convincing the government not to demonize American businesses (like Toyota) which compete against nationalized businesses. But since I like Honda, I only buy a car every ten years or so (and I've never had to replace a Honda because it's no longer any good).

I bought a made-in-Canada Honda Civic EX three months ago. Only Civic on the lot with manual transmission. Fun! Like driving a go kart.

My short list was Mazda 3, Honda Civic, VW Golf. I didn't consider anything by Toyota. The decision had nothing to do with safety problems, since I made the purchase before the brake recall was announced. I just think that Toyotas are dull. If I'm going to live with a car for ten years, I want some entertainment too.

Actually, no, not new at all. I've been reading Pogo's comments for a long time. Like many Conservatives he pretends to be opposed to the government. Or is only concerned about some things the government gets involved in - but not others. Liberals do it too. It's called politically cherry picking.

"What Pogo doesn't realize is that the enemy is Toyota not the government."

We have always been at war with Eastasia, er, Toyota.

Part of the war was the terribly convenient gummint hearings, and the US Secy of Transportation telling us to stop driving your Toyota.Only coincidence that GM is a wholly owned subsidiary of the US government.

But there's nothing to that connection at all, is there?

The zero percent interest issue was a big factor, too.Ha ha ha.I'm such a rebel.

Oh, and it's not clear Toyota ignored a real problem with the brakes, Matt. It's clear a lot of senior citizens had a problem, and it's clear that Toyotas don't really have a serious and widespread braking problem.

The floormat recall is a good indication that this is a load of crap. Just because Toyota deals with a silly problem like that doesn't mean they automatically are the villian.

Every car company, including GM, has recalls, has reports of sudden acceleration, etc. If the reports are all old people or people who just started driving the car, that demonstrates that the problem is dumb drivers.

Toyota had to improve some pedals and idiot proof some floormats. Just like everyone else. They are still one of the best car makers in the world, and better than any Detroit car maker has ever been, including the much improved and reliable Ford.

What Pogo doesn't realize is that the enemy is Toyota not the government.

Unfortunately, the govenrment no longer represents the people on this matter. The govenrment now has skin in the game. The government runs GM - Government Motors, an entity that was created by Obama to provide cash payments to largely democratic supporters - i.e., Auto Union Workers, and to secure the electoral college of Michigan at the expense of the taxpayer.

The absolute best way to punish the socialist Democrat Party is to put them out of work and one of the best ways to do that is to never again purchase a GM or Chrysler vehicle.

I cannot imagine why any American who has ever said the Pledge of Allegiance would buy a vehicle built by the same fucking union thugs who are brought in to Town Hall meetings to intimidate elder voters.

I will never reward these people by purchasing their products.

In hiring, I'll probe for Democrat Party tendencies in the questions I ask and in promotions and in every other way I will punish anyone who reveals themselves to be a Democrat.

The Democrat Party is undermining America and destroying our way of life. They're a bunch of thugs and thieves.

Toyota is paying taxes in a time when our government is deeply overspending. They aren't "the enemy". They employ a lot of great people here and around the world.

GM is stealing wealth from us, our kids, their kids. GM is the enemy, if you need to identify a company as your enemy.

No one said Toyota's practices are perfect. They corrected a problem or two, like all car makers do. Cars are complicated. But a tiny number of dumb people and scam artists and grannies complaining about something doesn't mean Toyota ignores and murdered tons of innocent babies.

The threat of nationalizing our businesses and competing with real productive companies is far more serious than the threat that most cars sold will have some kind of recall or flaw or imperfection. Toyota's not appealing to me, but they are not your enemy.

Like many Conservatives he pretends to be opposed to the government. Or is only concerned about some things the government gets involved in - but not others. Liberals do it too. It's called politically cherry picking.

For the record, conservatives are not opposed to government, they are just in favor of government doing less such as not running or bailing out auto companies. Government is supposed to protect our liberties and freedom, not redistribute wealth and take away liberties and freedom.

@Fiscal Conservative, if your son is in the military he is fighting so that Muslims disabuse themselves of the notion that Americans are the world's clay pigeons.

But even if we accept your premise of "blood for oil" he would be fighting so that limousine liberals don't have to see oil platforms from the top floors of their beach houses and so that we don't wind up extracting oil from shale in the western states.

It's not like he was drafted, the way I was, to fulfill some stupid Democrat's dream of becoming a popular war president in the middle of race riots.

The Element is just an ugly highlander with excellent space considerations. While you can get an AWD, and Honda makes the most advanced AWD systems in the world (making Audi look like Yugo), it's simply a different product from a Jeep Wrangler, FJ Cruiser, etc.

FJs won't hold nearly as much stuff inside, and they will have inferior mileage and reliability to a Highlander style SUV, but they will have far more capabilities on and off road. If you're old enough that youa ren't taking the kids everywhere, and you love the outdoors, the FJ is a great choice. I'd also suggest looking at a Subaru wagon.

If you're getting an Element or a Highlander or an Odyssey, you probably don't think the FJ is a practical vehicle... because it isn't. Fortunately, you can have a lot of fun without driving a union thug car, with any of these choices.

"Althouse doesn't realize how running a right-wing blog has pulled her to the right."

Democrat Party actions have pulled Althouse to the right.

Nancy Pelosi and the leadership in the House of Representatives are actively planning a fucking coup ... having failed to get enough votes to enact their takeover of our health care system.

First ... that shit won't stand. We'll see to that soon enough by eviscerating you at the polls and in your jobs and everywhere we encounter you.

But secondly, it's turning people who might have given them the benefit of the doubt into people who understand what the stakes are and the lengths that the Democrat Party will go to in their pursuit of infinite power.

Democrat Party actions are creating new Republicans in a way that even Ronald Reagan couldn't do.

Ann is not a conservative. She is a big time sucker on the government tit. She makes nearly $160,000.00 a year for being on what seems like a permanent vacation. I have no problem with tenure when it is used to protect academic freedom. I do have a problem when it is abused by people like Ann who use it to retire early while drawing a huge salary for decades on end. Ann when is the time you had published a book or a law review article? Do you do any pro bono or community improvement work? What do you actually do to earn the taxes I pay here in Wisconsin?

Ann talks like a tough conservative but she lives like a socialist.Ann, why not get off your fat white butt and go out and be a productive member of our economy? Why don't you start a business instead of being a free loading leech?

We recently needed to upgrade from our Accord to a minivan/crossover/SUV to accommodate the growing size of our family. We can't afford the Toyota options, so it wasn't really on our radar. We ended up buying a Ford for several reasons, not the least of which was that it was not a Government Motors vehicle (which was also in our budget range, unlike many foreign options).

I own and operate my own business so I can post any time I choose. I am not on the government tit like Ann. I can not believe you guys think of yourselves as conservatives but hang on this twit's every word.

Anyhoo, buy what the hell you want. If the FJ fits your lifestyle, that is the vehicle for you. I've talked to some owners of them and they love them. One told me he will keep his until it falls apart.

As for you lefty save the oil freaks- screw you. If people can afford the gas, WTF do you care? You wanna save the earth or oil, or what ever your pet project of the week is, fine. Drive your weenie mobiles or your french fry diesels. Leave the rest of us alone. It is our money, not yours.

"We ended up buying a Ford for several reasons, not the least of which was that it was not a Government Motors vehicle ..."

Bravo Jana. You're a credit to your nation and an excellent role model for your children. You are to be congratulated for doing your small part to ensure for them a positive future free of government coercion.

This is a teachable moment ... so I hope they are old enough to take the lesson.

Boy, buy that gas guzzler, that'll show... who? You for being an idiot buying a gas guzzler. Please Ann, Meade, you are both smarter than that. I own 2 cars, a Honda CRV and a Mercedes SUV. For the life of me I enjoy driving the Honda about 10 times as much as the Mercedes. It is fun, zippy, has just as many bells and whistles as the Mercedes and gets great gas mileage. Call me crazy (many have) but I love my Honda.

P.S. I think Al Gore cares as much about you and me as Rush Limbaugh does, which is not at all.

Really, you all are wasting your breath and time telling Al Gore to go to hell? Get a life, there are way more important things to worry about. I can make a list of about 50 things to think about before the name Al Gore even comes up.

Jimmy said...You know what they say about guys who buy big SUVs that they then never drive off the pavement don't you? Ann, is there something you want to tell us about Meade? It is nice though that you are supporting his need to compensate.

Ha ha! How true. Jimmy's logic is right on target. As Mrs. Meade said, we took a look at the Cruiser. I, of course, will need to buy a Yaris. (Unless Toyota makes something... you know... smaller.)

Slow Joe52 deaths and 38 injuries blamed on their braking system, 1000s of recalled cars, an admission of oversights on their braking system and profuse apologies by their CEO and you still think the jury is out that Toyota did anything wrong?WTF?Also the idea that old people are to blame for this flies in the fact of logic. Do old people ONLY buy Toyotas?

Look, feel free to buy their cars. But calling them the villain is actually pretty darn correct at this point. They tried to save money and they got caught.

I never believed there was anything wrong with Toyotas anyway. Anyone with any experience with those cars knows they're very high quality. And it's quite easy to miss the brake pedal and hit the accelerator by accident.

What surprised me was when I read on another blog that some of them are so automated now that you can't turn the engine off by turning off the key, you can't put the thing in neutral easily and the emergency brake is no longer a direct mechanical link between you (the driver) and the rear brake assembly. (This is what I read about the CA highway patrolman incident, which was a rented Lexus.)

IE, cars are becoming so automated that even if you have a bit of snap and figure out something is wrong the car will fight you to death to prevent you stopping it. If that really is true the engineers involved should be whipped. I've heard the same things about the Prius, that turning it off involves a series of steps (push and hold a button for 3 seconds or something?) rather than a simple flip of the key.

I guess I understand people not knowing how to change a tire, but man. If you can't quickly stop a vehicle accelerating out of control either something is very badly engineered or you need remedial driver training.

Toyota makes good motor vehicles. There is all the oil we will need in Alaska and offshore. The enemy is us as long as we let the fear of touching dirty carbon to let lying politicians sell us out while pretending to save us from pollution. That is why education has a place in society. We desperately need to learn and to be disciplined in thinking. The few great teachers are worth 10 times more than we pay them.

NewHam, good luck with that you dumb fuck. I own and operate my own business. You could loss customers for me though.

Sorry, I don't brook parasites like Ann Althouse who suck up big government salaries while barely working.

I am the true conservative here. NewHam you are just a mentally lazy piece of shit. I bet you are also one of those "conservatives" that is sucking on the government tit. Obviously I have hit a nerve with you.

And yes I am one of those conservatives that don't think we should be fighting wars to ensure corporations profits. I don't think corporations should be on the government tit any more than Ann and Meade should be.

The FJ actually drives quite well as an off-road vehicle. A bit of overkill if you just live in the city, but at least it looks like a cool car (assuming the aesthetic appeals to you). I personally would take it over a Ford or Hummer or any of the other generic SUV offerings.

@NewHam, he says he owns and operates his own business. Aside from the obvious facts that he dislike's Professor Althouse and that he thinks his son is fighting (he didn't say where so I'm guessing Afghanistan) for American access to oil (except that Afghanistan doesn't have any oil), do you have any reason to doubt that?

@Blue, I'd still take the Highlander over the FJ, but I like my son's Jeep Patriot better than either. It gets great gas mileage and like all Jeeps it is perfectly fine going off road. Downside is that it is pretty noisy inside.

Meade, you try to pass yourself off as a fiscal conservative here. Do you have any problems being married to a woman who collects $160,000.00 from the government and then abuses her tenure protection and barely even works part time at her government sponsored job? How is it being married to a big welfare queen?

Toyota certainly has some issues. It was bound to happen. Vehicles are incredibly complex and nothing is ever perfect. I am a little surprised at the Group Think I am seeing around Toyota. It appears that since the Dems are in power and the Government is investigating Toyota, then anyone against the Dems should buy a Toyota? Very silly.

I think Toyota's big issue is they just couldn't believe they actually had a problem and let it fester far too long. However, they are still the Industry standard everyone else strives for in Quality.

I am happy to see at least 2 or 3 posts about Ford in this long list of comments. Now THAT is a car company.

How is something "just barely" 4WD?I can't take the time to really explain that... but the Honda Element (which I love for other reasons) is "Honda Real-Time 4WD"... which means it's front wheel drive until it starts slipping and then it will send power to the other wheels. You can get yourself into trouble while you're waiting. There is no switch to put it into 4WD. Also, it lacks the ground clearance and undercarriage protection of a real off-road vehicle. The owners manual cautions against treating it as a serious off-roader.

BTW... whenever people start to criticize other people for driving SUVs, I know they live in town someplace where it doesn't snow much. Wisconsin in a mostly rural northern state and I'm sure Meade would like to be able to venture out of town occasionally.

I used to drive a chevy 2x4 pick yup in Egypt and a friend of mine drove a Land Rover. My chevy rarely got stuck off road and when it did, I kept a few boards and a shovel in the back and basically used the boards to drive over soft sand. I also always carried lots of water in the storage boxes, along with extra gas, food, tools, etc.

The land rover was great off road, however broke down all the time. Given that, I felt safer in the chevy.

The FJ Cruiser's biggest draw back is poor rear visability (which they have a camera option to allow you to park easier) and it runs on premium (why did Toyota do that?). If you want serious off roading, you can also get the Tacoma and Tundra with the off road packages which are serious enough for most. Still the FJ Cruiser is highly rated for off road stuff and is probably one of the best vehicles out there for that use.

Thanks, Rick. I didn't know that they had 4WD that decided on its own when to work or not.

I've got no intention of off-roading but the roads here are either perfectly fine or nearly impassable. If the roads are ice, you know they are ice.

Having grown up in Minnesota I was was always sort of snotty about people down South who couldn't drive in snow. It's just not that hard. But I've taken that back since living in New Mexico. Because the temperature hovers around freezing so often any snow at all tends to result in ice on the roads (which then melts completely off the next day).

Fiscal Conservative...Where do you get these facts that you throw around that Professor Althouse doesn't have a full time job. Have you ever been a Professor? The impartation of an attitude towards the subject and its importance coupled with an expectation that her several hundred students do all course work at a high level is what her pay is for. Her job is neither an assembly line for products nor an entertainment show. Her required skill is to get into her students' minds and lead them into a level of competence that is superior to other schools graduates. Such interpersonal work is very draining and requires professors during break times to take regular fun trips and play sports to stay human.

The Prius story may be false. But the other braking issues were true - and something Toyota clearly ignored for years.

Oh? The reported frequency of the "sudden acceleration events" is so low that it falls within sampling error. Add in the fact that past "sudden acceleration events" have been due to driver error and I'm skeptical that any problem existed.

Even if the problem does exist, the cost of fixing it (around $20 million per fatality) appears to be more than the cost of leaving it in place (around $4 million per fatality).

In short, this appears to be a media-manufactured payday for trial lawyers, just like the Audi nonsense from two decades ago.

@Blue, I'd still take the Highlander over the FJ, but I like my son's Jeep Patriot better than either. It gets great gas mileage and like all Jeeps it is perfectly fine going off road. Downside is that it is pretty noisy inside.

My problem with Jeeps is that every single one I've ever driven has felt like it was on the very edge of falling apart. Everything always felt... insubstantial. My best friend growing up got a Grand Cherokee--the clutch and gearbox felt like a Fisher-Price toy, no solid feeling or feedback at all.

victoria said... "I own 2 cars, a Honda CRV and a Mercedes SUV. For the life of me I enjoy driving the Honda about 10 times as much as the Mercedes. It is fun, zippy, has just as many bells and whistles as the Mercedes and gets great gas mileage. Call me crazy (many have) but I love my Honda."

Funny, we were looking at the CRV today. I agree. It seems pretty cool. I'm sure it feels a lot better driving than that big bulky FJ Cruiser. As for a Mercedes SUV, I had one for a day one time as a loaner when my Audi TT was getting serviced. I wrote about it here: "I'd never driven an SUV before, and it wouldn't have been my choice. But it wasn't bulky and horrible. It was kind of fun to drive."

The Audi is quite small, and though we've found a way to get the skis in in, there is reason to want more of a utility vehicle, something for the bikes and so forth. With 2 adults, having a second car isn't a gigantic luxury, especially when the first car can only really seat 2.

Seriously though, I drive a Prius--it's a great car if you main concern is getting from point A to point B. Not flashy, and if you're worried about getting labeled as some sanctimonious hippie, just put a few dings in it and don't wash it.

My previous car was a Saturn SL from back in the day. It's too bad GM destroyed this brand, because it was a sweet car--cheap as shit, 40mpg, reliable, and it was plastic--plastic! It was like an abusee in a relationship--you could treat it like crap and it still never failed to do your bidding. Best car ever for a starving student.

Traditional guy - "There is all the oil we will need in Alaska and offshore."

Not true. Some conservatives believe in endless resources including oil magically replenished by Jesus and it allows them to believe that endless population growth. And more billions of people and huge Haitian families all means endless economic growth and rise in standard of living everywhere. And that buying a gas guzzler is wonderful because it ticks off liberals. It is all a comforting fantasy to them.We should drill to lessen the wealth transfer out of America.

===============We should also return to the ide Reagan had about paying lip service to Free Trade but not letting critical industries be destroyed by cheap Asian labor. He is why we still have the automotive, steel, higher electronics industries left in the US and all those jobs didn't go to Japan.The Bushes didn't care what industries and jobs were lost as long as their friends were protected and Americans were fighting and dying for us with Amurrrican-made M-16s instead of far cheaper Chinese and Nigerian contractors and Mexicans we signed up.Clinton didn't care if large swaths of America were wrecked and products came from China as long as financial services people, his big donors, and government union people were protected from free trade.

=================The positive thing about Honda, Toyota, and Nissan being here and supplying jobs, keeping job revenue economic multipliers, as well as engineering and scientific cross-fertilization with America after Reagan forced it - cannot be exaggerated.===================I will buy Ford, Honda, Toyota, Mazda and Mercedes. Any day.

After a lady ran a stop sign and ran into me on a highway as I was going 65mph and totaled my car I got a 1-yr old, under 19K miles 4-wheel drive TrailBlazer for $19K with same gas mileage as your Toyota. OK, not bragging at all ... just 1st place I went to and was on the way to chiropractor's office ... I was inpatient. But I feel better know my mileage isn't much different than yours. BUT, I still lust after a 4-wheel drive Toyota ... it's on my future list!!!

After the Ford Pinto was declared a deathtrap it became my Dad's favorite used second car. People were giving them away. Problem was, even though they never burst into flames on us, they were still crappy cars.

Toyotas are a different matter. Problem is, the car we have is perfect and Toyota doesn't have a matching model. Otherwise I might sell up.

I'm satisfied with my Ford Escape Hybrid. A little pricy, but it's my retirement celebration vehicle and that wasn't about to be a Toyota.Love how it drives. I lean towards American products, more strongly so ever since I lunched with a Native American, who ate peanuts from a woven basket and smoke hand rolled organic cigarettes. He was a full-on "America only" consumer. He was a proud tribal member (from some California tribe which I forget the name), yet he was also pro-America. I'm not an extremist, but I'm not about to buy a new Toyota if there are good alternatives.

And since I now drive the TT ninety-five percent of the time, a second car would have to be something fast and fun - something that would flatter Mrs. Meade's natural beauty. Something like... a conversion Yaris?

What's the difference between supporting a hard working Japanese worker and an American. Do you just think your tribe is better (you seem to relate this to tribes).

Your Ford was built in Kansas, but a lot of the components were built in China. What's so bad about Toyotas made in America or Japan?

Toyota is paying taxes while GM and Chrysler are sucking away the productive earnings of millions of Americans. So I know who is a good member of this community and the world, and who is not.

Ford's a great company. You don't have to be a bigot to prefer their great product. But how is this different from saying you won't buy products from companies with different races, political views, or sex than you? Nationality is not a very good way to define who is the good guy.

This 'no way I'll have one of them Jap cars' is embarrassing. That is precisely the attitude that game GM the idea it could survive without trying.

Matt, you're probably on to another thread to troll, but I'm not exactly Althouse's fanboy... I get very annoyed with her strange artificial neutrality and all that. But you're a nut. And when all the people hating Toyota are nuts, it really helps make Toyota's case. Sure, it's logically possible that Toyota is villainous and just happens to be persecuted by insane liberals. But it doesn't feel like that.

What's the difference between supporting a hard working Japanese worker and an American.

That isn't even the right question to ask. Even if there was something patriotic about paying Americans more than they're worth, there's still the little fact that plenty of Toyotas and Toyota parts are made right here in America.

...soon as the Schumer tradewars are over and the Obama greenback will only buy UAW and within the boundaries of the 27 remaining states, Chrysler plans to bring back the Dart "Bored" --with the new torquefree "rubberband" drive, a throwup hood, bucket seats, a horn that goes "blaAAH", and a sticker price of only $250,000.

"What Pogo doesn't realize is that the enemy is Toyota not the government. But then if the government ignored Toyota and let them slide then Pogo would be mad that the government wasn't doing anything."

Why are Liberals such friends of the Government? It's ALL about government (Chicago Mob) ownership of GM, government partner Unions (Toyota is non-union), sucking up to the Trial Lawyer Lobby, and aided by a Leftist fawning media.

Check this out (it's not brakes by the way, it's accellerators).

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4347704.html

Or this. Do you think the media does any statistical analysis, or do they just play chicken little for the Usurper?

Revenant, true, Toyota employs hundreds of thousands of Americans, directly and indirectly, and pays a hell of a lot of tax (unlike GM and Chrysler, which suck our wealth away).

But it's still interesting to me how democrats have this hatred of other peoples around the world. What's wrong with the Japanese making money? How is that worse than Americans making money? When they talk about buying American Chevies (if they are made here, anyway), so that jobs exist, they are, by extension, saying we shouldn't buy Japanese and employ a japanese worker (if that car was actually made there). Or saying that some profits shouldn't go to Japan (even when a lot of profits go into the US Treasury if you buy from a profitable company).

It's just bigotry. Sure, you have a point that it's not even accurate... Toyota is an American car maker.

Kentucky Liz, there's nothing to be afraid of in drive by wire. It's just as physical a process as a cable in your carburetor. In fact, there are many ways for an old style throttle cable to stick. Fly by wire is much safer. And it's not something you avoid by skipping Audi.

Don't believe the trial lawyers and MSM idiots. This mysterious ghost in the machine doesn't exist at all. The brakes in your toyota can stop the car at full throttle. It is your responsibility to read the manual and know how to shut off your car and get out of gear.

Cars are much easier to drive and much safer with modern technology than they were without. this 'software is scary' complaint is out of line with a reality where the bug cannot be replicated because it doesn't exist.

Meanwhile, thousands of people have died because the old school cable, if poorly maintained, can be dangerous. All cars are powerful enough to be dangerous, like life in general.

...universal government provided healthcare, and a 200% debt-to-gdp ratio (twice ours) made doable only at the expense of growth & jobs, and --crucially --by almost 100% of the national debt being internally owned (twice ours). Not to mention, made doable by such unquantifiable truths as a highly cooperative and homogeneous society strongly aligned to personal and civic virtue (as opposed to say an emphasis on personal freedom shading into absolute license).

Toyota had regular problems which are like sudden acceleration, floor mats etc.., but it's not the only one brand which having the problem, all most every manufactures having the this type of problems, and also most of the companies recalling their vehicles at same time but as a global leader in sells Toyota getting the more expose than other once.....