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Omar tried to win and look where it got us? One playoff appearance in 6 seasons, a sorry excuse for a farm system, absolutely no depth, and a fat payroll to underachieving players.

Sandy's job has been to rebuild the organization. He's done a nice job improving the depth of the farm, acquiring high upside young talent for aging players, greatly improving the flexibility, not being impatient knowing when it's time to make moves, and not making moves based on emotion. I am very comfortable with what the FO is doing right now.

A few thoughts on the organization's strategy moving forward...

But there unwise signings and that is all we have to judge him for now since he has done no other major signing. And bases on those signings am not ready to say I trust him as far as who he will bring in later on. Hell, I think in two years Sandy will not even be the GM anymore.

But there unwise signings and that is all we have to judge him for now since he has done no other major signing. And bases on those signings am not ready to say I trust him as far as who he will bring in later on. Hell, I think in two years Sandy will not even be the GM anymore.

Yup

The Bay signing was miserable from the start. You can't take a .250 fly ball power hitter put him in a huge field and expect him to have good production.

Spending the extra money on Holliday would have been a huge difference. While his home runs would have gone down in Citi, being a line drive hitter with a good average his doubles and average would go up with more space in the outfield. Let alone Holliday was the younger of the two.

Hopefully once the Mets do spend again they will spend it more wisely.

He's not even tried to win. He's failed, we've wasted three seasons and in exchange we've got 3 prospects.

He's trying to win in the future. Building a team to win in the time he has been here was practically impossible, being that he had no money to spend and nobody to (smartly) spend it on.

What would've you done if you were GM in his situation? Resign Reyes, sign Pujols, and trade the farm for Felix Hernandez and Giancarlo Stanton?

You can't base a GM's success on whether or not the team is winning, especially since that's not Sandy's goal at the moment. He has done a great job in putting the Mets in position to win in a few years.

-Traded Carlos Beltran (aging, injury prone oufielder rental) for Zack Wheeler (future ace)
-Traded R.A. Dickey (aging pitcher and, while I believe he has multiple good seasons left, would not make much a difference in New York) for Noah -Syndergaard (future TORP) and Travis d'Arnaud (future catching stud that we have lacked ever since Piazza).
-Resigned the best player to ever put on a Mets uniform for life.

How is that all outweighed by the fact that the Mets didn't trade Reyes/resign him and that Sandy hasn't won with a team that has been annualy projected to finish dead last every year?

The problem most Mets fans have right now is that this is new waters for us. We have come to expect the Minaya and Phillips way of doing things. Going out and signing a name player (usually past his prime) and trying to spin it in the papers. We literally try to convince ourselves they are the right moves.

What SA is doing whether it was forced by the Wilpons/lawsuit or just the plan all along...doesn't matter at this point. This is new territory for us Mets fans and we do not know how to quantify it. We do not how to react just yet. We are not used to rebuilding and it is very hard to break the "instant gratification" habit.

We also do not know how SA will react considering this is also new territory for him. The Mets are rebuilding, there is no question, but it is also the largest market in the world. That does come with expectations. Expectations that SA is not used to. This is not Oakland, every step, word, and move will be critiqued and studied and crucified (wrongly or rightly). So with these new frontiers ahead of us, we can only wait and watch...to see how SA reacts...and of course how we will react in kind.

Right now we are getting ahead of ourselves because everything is being questioned.

The problem most Mets fans have right now is that this is new waters for us. We have come to expect the Minaya and Phillips way of doing things. Going out and signing a name player (usually past his prime) and trying to spin it in the papers. We literally try to convince ourselves they are the right moves.

What SA is doing whether it was forced by the Wilpons/lawsuit or just the plan all along...doesn't matter at this point. This is new territory for us Mets fans and we do not know how to quantify it. We do not how to react just yet. We are not used to rebuilding and it is very hard to break the "instant gratification" habit.

We also do not know how SA will react considering this is also new territory for him. The Mets are rebuilding, there is no question, but it is also the largest market in the world. That does come with expectations. Expectations that SA is not used to. This is not Oakland, every step, word, and move will be critiqued and studied and crucified (wrongly or rightly). So with these new frontiers ahead of us, we can only wait and watch...to see how SA reacts...and of course how we will react in kind.

Right now we are getting ahead of ourselves because everything is being questioned.

Not exactly new or a surprise to me. I called a transition to a small market budget over two years ago.

This doesn't include their SNY revenue which isn't dependent on attendance or even wins and losses.

The Wilpons reacted to $500 million of stolen money vanishing from their accounts by endeavoring to bleed as much as possible out of the Mets.

After not spending any money, losing all their best players but one, and "rebuilding" since 2010 all they have to show for it are 3 prospects. They've acquired very little in terms of minor league talent. What else do you expect when willingness to sign below slot is a requirement for almost all their top picks. This whole thing is a typical Wilpon deception. These aren't new waters for any of us.

The only difference is in the past an inadequate team would be fobbed off on us as a contender. Now a crummier team is being fobbed off on us as a "rebuild".