And are you really saying that race has absolutely NOTHING to do with this, at all? Please.

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Yes.

Unlike you and a few others here that can ONLY play the race card instead of engaging any sort of logical or meaningful discussion where obama's
actions and policies are concerned. It's like you somehow think it is impossible for ANYONE to disagree with obama without it being due to racism.

Get a grip ...

What are you even talking about? This whole movement is racially motivated. What are you missing.

The mere existence of this group is based on the premise that he was born in Kenya. It has nothing, NOTHING to do with his policies, you realize that
right? So who's racist now?

Hey numbnutz: .The"fact he was born in kenya" as you put it not only determines his RACE but more importantly from a legal and constituitional angle
his CITIZENSHIP under the law and the possibly fraudulent natureof his meteoric rise to the top of American politics.

But I know its easier to just cry "RACISTS"! AND Its intimidating, and insulting, at the same time ( SAVES TIME FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AND
PROTESTING INJUSTICE)!

"Kenya"(
if true) means more than just the fact he's "black"
( "half black" As I understandit; like it matters too me)!

Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If he were white this wouldn't have ever come up in the first place. It is what it is. Like it or not. Quit playing on like you're so politically
correct.

The fact that I'm being branded a racist because of this is ludicrous. I like him and voted for him for pete's sake!!

Oh look! when you move everything but the words, they line up too perfectly it means it was edited! No- it means it was printed from a computer

Birthers are like the U.S. economy, they've already hit the wall, just haven't realized it yet.

Scanned images and layered images are different. Nice try though. Look at the part of the page that is near the spine...now look at the
background...notice how the background image is straight across instead of bending with the page? How does that happen from a scanned copy!?

We can bash the President all day long when that's not going to fix a damn thing. The problem is that everyone sits on their ass complaining and
pointing their fingers trying to blame all of their problems on someone else. How about everyone take responsibility for their own actions.

Did people forget that we control this Government? It's for the people by the people. If we got enough people together we could fire every single
person.

It's just sad that everyone now thinks that oh the president will save the day and our economy!! Get real we need to put their balls to the fire and
let them know if your not for the people GTFO!

Not only that like stated in many threads the Presidents are nothing more than puppets no matter their color. I really like Ron Paul and I hope he
gets elected but I honestly believe if he tries to do everything he states they will straight murder him.

Until we the people rise up and take our country back I really don't give a # about a Birth Certificate. I care more about his morals and if he's
willing to uphold the constitution. The real issue is Obama is up Wall Streets ass and takes orders.

How about a valid, non-manipulated birth certificate? Face it; if GW could only account for about 5 years of his entire life, the left would have had
a field day, and rightly so. All we got from BHO was a cover story about where he was but there is very little proof or documentation to substantiate
it. This person creates more questions than he answers and that in itself should be a concern to every citizen.

See, you are being told and shown that this so-called birth certificate he released is fake. It is based on reality. It's not a single layer graphic
document but rather a multi-layered graphic document that was created on a computer, but you are ready and willing to accept that, hook, line and
sinker, no questions asked. He could have produced something written on a piece of toilet paper and you would probably frame it and call it real,
cause' he's your boy. But for the rest of the thinking masses, that's not enough.

YOU SHOULD OFFER TO CLOSE THIS THREAD>>>YOU KNOW THE HOSPITAL WAS NAMED WRONG? NAME WAS CHANGED IN 1978... his BC has the 1978 name not the 1961
name....its getting overwhelming that this thread should be your "ANTI_BIRTHER" last thread...lol YOU SAID IT, SHOE IS ON OTHER FOOT NOW...its
layered, when you zoom in some of the lettering pixelates and some does not, and the hospital name is 17 years in the future...COME ON LOL...took him
how long to produce it?

Here's a better question..why don't you support your countrymen and listen instead of being a know it all big mouth? How about that..it is proven
beyond a doubt to being faked..You would think with your all knowing mind you'd know this but alas it would seem you just are talking crap as a
follower..not an individual that has enough experience to have said one word to begin with. I could careless about Obamas BC because I know damn well
he is destroying this country..but..I support my fellow countrymen because the chance of it being true is huge..and it seems it is a fact..the
document has been debunked by professionals who'd know..unlike you.You are a disgrace to your fellow countrymen.

Playing the race card is not only old but it is mind control programming. We are humans stop trying to divide us with race, gender, or whatever new
Word the elite puts into your brain for you to repeat over and over.

All the other people you mentioned are also pawns to the Royal Bloodlines who control this country and the World. Wake up from the Matrix.

Originally posted by neo96
what would it take to appease the birthers?

obama resigning from office today.

Transparency. Not breaking campaign promises. Ending the Bush wars he PROMISED TO DO,and the new ones hes gotten into.
There are many people who just want answers.Clear answers.Not fabricated..If labeling people "Birthers" for asking questions, makes someone feel
superior,then rock on!

You can disagree all you want, but you do realize that the real motivation behind this ridiculous Birther movement is racially based don't you? If you
don't then you should get your head out of the sand.

This whole thing started because some fool thought he was born in Kenya. If he wasn't black no one would have had a reason to check up on him in the
first place.

Don't call me racist because I'm calling it as I see it. You're being way too sensitive here. If I had referred to someone by a racial slur or
screamed that " I Hate all ( insert group) ! then you'd have a legitimate gripe..

But that never happened, nor would it ever happen because I'm not a racist. So grow some tougher skin.

Do you know which so called "fool" first questioned Barry Soetoro? Hint. The blond female puppet who first started this game that has you so confused.
You are so mind controlled you do not see the game being played. Trump is another puppet taking orders to bring Barry down from the same people who
put him in office knowing he was an illusion in order to cause racial problems and destroy the US.

Most people these days want the truth and this BC issue is just a game to cause a civil war inside the US by people like you. You want everything to
be about race, gender, religion differences and other brainwashing tools.

I promise if you learn to think for yourself, you would not be filled with so much hate. Skin color means nothing. We are humans so stop name calling
and judging others based on your own programmed mind.

You can disagree all you want, but you do realize that the real motivation behind this ridiculous Birther movement is racially based don't you? If
you don't then you should get your head out of the sand.

This whole thing started because some fool thought he was born in Kenya. If he wasn't black no one would have had a reason to check up on him in the
first place.

Don't call me racist because I'm calling it as I see it. You're being way too sensitive here. If I had referred to someone by a racial slur or
screamed that " I Hate all ( insert group) ! then you'd have a legitimate gripe..

But that never happened, nor would it ever happen because I'm not a racist. So grow some tougher skin.

Do you know which so called "fool" first questioned Barry Soetoro? Hint. The blond female puppet who first started this game that has you so
confused. You are so mind controlled you do not see the game being played. Trump is another puppet taking orders to bring Barry down from the same
people who put him in office knowing he was an illusion in order to cause racial problems and destroy the US.

Most people these days want the truth and this BC issue is just a game to cause a civil war inside the US by people like you. You want everything to
be about race, gender, religion differences and other brainwashing tools.

I promise if you learn to think for yourself, you would not be filled with so much hate. Skin color means nothing. We are humans so stop name calling
and judging others based on your own programmed mind.

Playing the race card is not only old but it is mind control programming. We are humans stop trying to divide us with race, gender, or whatever new
Word the elite puts into your brain for you to repeat over and over.

All the other people you mentioned are also pawns to the Royal Bloodlines who control this country and the World. Wake up from the Matrix.

These are trolls don't pay any attention to them, they come in here in vain to try and divide further. Little by little they are being exposed for
what they really are, don't give them your time, they are not worth the energy.

When this president or anyone else in the United States government returns to at least trying to give an honest, non-evasive, non-condescending answer
based upon some sort of fact (not twisted numbers or bs spin) and without holding those who ask questions in contempt.... THEN and only then will I
start to at least try to listen to what the hell they has to say. Until then, they deserve contempt. They means anyone in government not trying to
give an honest answer. It need not be isolated to the US government.

If you need a list of the lies - we can start with where $2.3 trillion disappeared to the day before 9/11 per Rumsfeld; the BP oil spill; the Japan
nuclear reactors; the Katrina levy system; TARP; Corporate profits; Obama's pledge on lobbyists; so on and so forth, ad infinitum.

I will assert that it is the job of everyone who works for the United States government to be accountable to the People of the United States. Given
that both parties have an established history of lying about, hiding, obfuscating information whilst accruing $14-15 trillion in debt - to not be
asking, demanding answers, is a dereliction of our responsibility as citizens. Leastwise, it is our fault, collectively - to have allowed the United
States to reach the point it has.

We've been lazy, and that has led to corruption (and worse). We can, of course, continue in our laziness and let things continue to get worse - which
seems to be what non-birthers would certainly love. Or we can look at what got us to this point and try to reverse it. That involves a bit of
scrutiny and a lot of effort. If something looks out of place, odds are something is out of place. But... I know many people are too lazy and
possible quite incapable of thinking for themselves, so the official story is an easy sell to most.

When the facts begin to add up, when failure is no longer equated to success, and when Americans are no longer treated as possible terrorists, when
the United States returns to rule of law... then, we might be easier to get along with. Maybe.

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