Strange problem with Online Update - Suse

This is a discussion on Strange problem with Online Update - Suse ; I'm having a strange problem with the Online Update of Yast. Every
time I start it, there are some persistent "updates" available, more
precisely, these:
http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/yast_snap1.png
When I click "Accept" the program simply closes. I'm not sure if it's
crashing ...

When I click "close" and then start Online Update again, I'm back at
the first snapshot above: The exact same packages are again listed
there, including the 'mono' packages I just installed.

This hasn't happened before.

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

Juha Nieminen wrote:
> I'm having a strange problem with the Online Update of Yast. Every
> time I start it, there are some persistent "updates" available,

I have this problem on about 3 machines. My persistent update is for
amarok.

No idea how to get round it, but it is annoying.
--
David Wilson Clarke

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Juha Nieminen wrote:-
> I'm having a strange problem with the Online Update of Yast. Every
>time I start it, there are some persistent "updates" available, more
>precisely, these:

> When I click "close" and then start Online Update again, I'm back at
>the first snapshot above: The exact same packages are again listed
>there, including the 'mono' packages I just installed.

This might clear the problem, but there's no guarantees. First you need
to open up a root console. Then, enter the command[0]:

zypper ref

This will ask zypper to refresh all the installation sources, whether
they require a refresh or not. Once the refresh is complete, enter just
one of these commands[0]:

zypper up
zypper up -y
zypper up --skip-interactive
zypper up --skip-interactive -y

All of these will ask zypper to perform an upgrade.

The first one will start zypper, which will check to see which packages
need upgrading, after which it will display what it will do and wait for
confirmation. Pressing 'y' and return will start the upgrade.

The second command does almost the same as the first one. The difference
is that, instead of waiting for you to accept what it's going to do, the
'-y' tells zypper to go ahead and do whatever it needs to do
automatically.

The third and fourth[1] commands are just like the first two, only the
option '--skip-interactive' tells zypper to skip any upgrades that will
require a reboot, e.g. kernel upgrades, dbus, etc.

After the upgrade is completed, YaST Online Update shouldn't list those
upgrades any more.

[0] If you're curious about what's going on, add a -v straight after
zypper. Putting it elsewhere is very likely to result in an error.

[1] This is the command I use for automatic upgrades using cron. Using
the --skip-interactive option, all the upgrades get installed apart from
those that require a reboot. All I need to do is do the interactive ones
when I'm there to reboot the system.

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

EOS wrote:
> David Wilson Clarke wrote:
>
>> I have this problem on about 3 machines. My persistent update is
>> for amarok.
>>
>> No idea how to get round it, but it is annoying.
>
> dependencies problem that yast can't solve?
> my amarok is 1.4.8-100.pm.2 and comes from packman.
> do you have packman in repositories?
> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_Ya...tories#Packman

Yes, I have Packman as one of my repositories. My Amarok is 1.4.7, the
offered version that doesn't load is 4492-0 (not sure what that No.
is). I think I'll try a manual update, and see what errors it gives.

Thanks for your help.
--
David Wilson Clarke

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

David Wilson Clarke wrote:
> Yes, I have Packman as one of my repositories. My Amarok is 1.4.7, the
> offered version that doesn't load is 4492-0 (not sure what that No.
> is). I think I'll try a manual update, and see what errors it gives.

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

David Bolt wrote:
> zypper ref
> zypper up

Executing those resulted (in the end) in:

Summary:
Nothing to do.

Online Update still behaves like previously.

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

Juha Nieminen schreef:
> I'm having a strange problem with the Online Update of Yast. Every
> time I start it, there are some persistent "updates" available, more
> precisely, these:
>
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/yast_snap1.png

Looking at that screenshot it seems there are no updates available.
The ones you see are allready installed, or are for software you do not have
installed.
You can check by scrolling to the right and look at the installed version
and the available version, they should be the same or show that it is for
software not installed.

--
Chris Maaskant

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

Juha Nieminen wrote:
> I'm having a strange problem with the Online Update of Yast. Every
> time I start it, there are some persistent "updates" available, more
> precisely, these:
>
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/yast_snap1.png
>
> When I click "Accept" the program simply closes. I'm not sure if it's
> crashing or simply closing because there's nothing to do.
>
> If I click on the selected packages of eg. the mono-core update, ie.
> like this:
>
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/yast_snap2.png
>
> and then click 'Accept' then it downloads and "installs" those selected
> packages:
>
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/yast_snap3.png
>
> When I click "close" and then start Online Update again, I'm back at
> the first snapshot above: The exact same packages are again listed
> there, including the 'mono' packages I just installed.
>
> This hasn't happened before.

It also happens to me a lot. Some kind of bug. Select the packages in
the list to the *left* (checkmarks, not the "Z" icon) and accept. They
will not appear again.

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

EOS wrote:
> David Wilson Clarke wrote:
>
>> Yes, I have Packman as one of my repositories. My Amarok is 1.4.7, the
>> offered version that doesn't load is 4492-0 (not sure what that No.
>> is). I think I'll try a manual update, and see what errors it gives.
>
> you can try to make a upgrade like that
> http://users.telenet.be/photo-memori...-downgrade.png

Ah, thanks for that. Well, I've upgraded to 1.4.8, but it's still telling me
there is an upgrade available.

So it's says it's going to downgrade Amarok, but it does not. Hmmm.
--
David Wilson Clarke

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> It also happens to me a lot. Some kind of bug. Select the packages in
> the list to the *left* (checkmarks, not the "Z" icon) and accept. They
> will not appear again.

But wouldn't that install *everything* on those packages, including
things I don't need (such as the devel packages)?

Re: Strange problem with Online Update

Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> It also happens to me a lot. Some kind of bug. Select the packages in
>> the list to the *left* (checkmarks, not the "Z" icon) and accept. They
>> will not appear again.
>
> But wouldn't that install *everything* on those packages, including
> things I don't need (such as the devel packages)?

No. In fact, it doesn't do anything. When you press accept, nothing
happens, but next time they don't show up again.