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but you know Iv Always thought you over train alittle. Mostly cuz your natty and the volume without diet and sleep can go great for a little bit but can come to a screatching halt real quick.

Thanks man. Yeah, it's hard to find that balance for sure. Been working on the bench for a while and I really think that without "sups" or really increasing my body weight, I am pretty tapped out right around the low 400s. The one thing I will say through all this volume work and what not is that my bench (although still around the same number) has NEVER felt better. In the groove all the time and I can go "heavy" fairly often without being sore. Maybe once I acclimate to this a bit I'll see a little jump in weight? Who knows...

225 the first marker - "yea I workout"
315 the second marker - "I'm legitimately strong... or did my first cycle"
405 the third marker - "I'm the strongest guy in the gym, the other guy who benches this is over 300lb so it's not impressive"
500 the fourth marker - "and on the seventh day I rested"

225 the first marker - "yea I workout"
315 the second marker - "I'm legitimately strong... or did my first cycle"
405 the third marker - "I'm the strongest guy in the gym, the other guy who benches this is over 300lb so it's not impressive"
500 the fourth marker - "and on the seventh day I rested"

my personal best is 440lbs so we see what happens, I'm just starting again after I break I had to take after a car accident, so let's just see.

Had to take some time off for a pec injury so had about two months off training chest. Kinda having bad luck had a few months off completely end of last/beginning of this year for hernia surgery, now a couple months off chest training for a pec issue...