Doctor Who Twice Upon a Time Brand New Trailer

Two Doctors, one destiny. The magical final chapter of the Twelfth Doctor’s journey is coming. Don’t miss ‘Twice Upon a Time’ this Christmas at 5.30pm BBC1 Christmas day.

94 comments

whovian

December 25th, 2017 - 4:58pm

It’s a bit surreal knowing that in just over an hour (being when Twice Upon A Time finishes), that the Doctor Who fandom will be split forever…. that being those who want the female Doctor and those that don’t. I’m feeling the same way I did when Matt Smith left. Now I don’t want the 12th Doctor to go. But am also optimistic about the the Doctor’s first ever female form. I’m torn.

When the poll for ‘Twice Upon a Time’ comes out, can we all vote on the overall quality of the episode rather than our opinions on the final minute or so of the episode? It’d just be a shame if the split opinion on Jodie Whittaker’s casting affects the rating for Peter Capaldi’s final story.

In other words, voting on Steven Moffat’s part of the episode. Chris Chibnall has written Jodie’s scene.

R1ch1e

December 23rd, 2017 - 8:39pm

Absolutely!!! I couldn’t agree more

R1ch1e

December 17th, 2017 - 12:21pm

My biggest hope for this episode is that Peter Capaldi gets the regeneration scene that he absolutely deserves.
I remember being so disappointed with Matt Smith’s actual regeneration. He should have regenerated on top of the tower blowing up loads of Daleks and having ‘Love from Gallifrey boy’s his last words and then the Twelth Doctor born in the ashes. That would have been awesome. Instead they went down the soppy route to try and make us all cry.
Matt Smith deserved so much better than that and so does Capaldi. I really hope he gets the send off he deserves.

I loved matts regeneration it was perfect in the TARDIS after his ‘doctor was me’ speech and Amy comes back to guide him to his regeneration. The only thing that spoilt it for me personally was the ‘instant’ regeneration I’d have preferred the fire and light version. 10’s is still my favorite because I absolutely loved his ‘farewell’ tour of his companions and rose being the first and last face he saw (let’s forget about ood Sigma for a moment). But I agree I want capaldis to be fitting of his character

Ash

December 22nd, 2017 - 1:17pm

I’ve never understood the fuss over the “sneeze” regeneration. It really took me by surprise, and I think that was the point they wanted to get across: one second the Doctor is Matt Smith, the next he’s Peter Capaldi. I was expecting another dramatic one so it really caught me off guard when I first saw it, and I liked that. Different strokes, of course, I can see why some were put off by it, but I don’t think it was a bad thing for me.

T.A

December 22nd, 2017 - 2:12pm

I think was people did not like about it that is was very underwhelming, and a bad good bye for Matt.

whovian

December 23rd, 2017 - 4:29pm

Ash, i felt the same as you for the so-called sneeze regeneration. In a way it was good to show a change of the effect but also when you dont expect that to happen after seeing the drawn out regeneration, its a bit of a shock. When the camera went to Clara after the change, her face looked about as surprised as i was.
as if to say “what the eff just happened?!”

T.A

December 23rd, 2017 - 6:49pm

What just happened? Oh we did not have enough money to another regeneration sorry.

The Prydonian

December 12th, 2017 - 8:47pm

I dont know how to feel. I truly believe my Doctor Who association is coming to an end. I really am not looking forward to the future. Sadly it’s finished for me, and I have been obsessed with it for 49 years. I went into show business entirely thru my love of Doctor Who. I do not want to say goodbye to Peter Capaldi, and I do not want see him regenerate into Jodie Whitaker. He has not only been a great Doctor, but he is one of the great Doctors. I salute you. Goodbye

I feel the same way..sad times…and i too salute the great Peter Capaldi…for me the only actor to have ticked all the ‘Doctory’ boxes since the mighty Tom Baker…
Miss Whitaker is so far removed from that…that it’s laughable…
But time will tell…it usually does…

Doctor Stu

December 13th, 2017 - 8:06am

She hasn’t had one scene yet so how do we know she can’t embody the character, she’s played countless different roles and genres and pulled them off fine so why are we so sure she can’t play the Doctor. Give the woman a chance. I thought casting Peter Capaldi was the wrong choice i originally felt it was a cheap move seeing how he’d already played two characters and I wouldn’t be able to get that fact out of my head but he grew on me and now I think he’s a really good doctor. No doubt all our opinions will change after Jodie’s first series

Pats86

December 13th, 2017 - 9:28pm

The Prydonian and Adam you are not alone, my feelings exactly well said.

Mick C

December 13th, 2017 - 11:01pm

All true Doctor Who fans will give her a chance because not to goes against everything the show and the Doctor stands for.

The Outcast

December 14th, 2017 - 4:25am

We’re all true Doctor Who fans.

pats86

December 14th, 2017 - 8:29am

Mick C, so you think all true fans have to accept everything that is put in front of us? Not a chance, I am no sheep!

Doctor Stu

December 14th, 2017 - 11:46am

The word ‘accept’ seems so wrong, it’s literally just a woman

Mick C

December 14th, 2017 - 9:59pm

I personally am far from convinced that this is going to work and regard her outfit as the worst since Colin Baker and that is when original Doctor Who lost me as a viewer but I’m not totally writing the show off without giving her a chance.
All I ask is give her and her new companions at least 3 episodes then make a decision wether to stop or stay watching the show, you never know the casting of the new TARDIS team may be pure genius if they can get the dynamics right.

T.A

December 14th, 2017 - 10:33pm

Personal I don’t care if they are a male or female, what I am worried about is that the bbc will push their pc agenda even more now.

Pats86

December 14th, 2017 - 10:34pm

I agree, I intend to give it a go but those that don’t should not be called not true fans, it’s their choice and if they can’t watch because of such a drastic change then so be it.

The Moffat Paradox

December 16th, 2017 - 10:40am

The problem is for those who us who feel that the casting IS too PC/SJW motivated and think.Congratulations Moffat/ Chibnall/BBC You’ve done it now! (And you call yourself fans).After “Twice Upon A Time” many hitherto faithful fans will just no longer want to know.

Doctor Stu

December 16th, 2017 - 10:44am

The new writer wanted a woman, a woman was cast

T.A

December 16th, 2017 - 1:11pm

I think the bbc will push their agendas heavily in the next couple of years, they all ready started with season nine and ten.

The Moffat Paradox

December 16th, 2017 - 5:33pm

Dr Stu it should by now be past debate that it was only possible for Chibnal to choose a female for the role because of Moffat’s in universe tinkering and in so doing Chibnal has shown he assents to that agenda.

Rikki Krystal

December 20th, 2017 - 3:55pm

Doctor who is also dead to me after the xmas story.
I have watched from the very first episode in 1963,so it will be a sad day.
But i still have the classics,on big finish.
So long doctor who,and thanks for all the fish.

Pats86

December 21st, 2017 - 4:41pm

Rikki Krystal, I fully respect such a decision to stop watching, I have had the same thoughts also. I am going to give it a go and see how it goes.
It’s extremely sad that many life long fans like yourself are leaving with Capadi’s Doctor, what makes it so difficult to take is it need not have happened and we have had the fan base split, and this is done by supposed fans in Moffat and Chibnall! They should be ashamed of themselves.

Doctor Stu

December 21st, 2017 - 5:20pm

People are basically saying they can’t handle seeing a woman on tv for at least one series of a television program

simon.ss1

December 21st, 2017 - 9:17pm

I’ve also watched Doctor Who from the first episode in 1963, and the Christmas special will be the end for me, too.

I’ll give at least the first few of Jodie Whitaker’s run a go. But what the BBC don’t seem to realise is that – despite it being called ‘Doctor Who’ and no matter how good it is – it won’t actually be Doctor Who, any more than James Bond would still be James Bond or Miss Marple would still be Miss Marple if either of them changed gender.

It’s a bit ironic that it will end where it all started for me 54 years ago, with the first Doctor Who!

The Moffat Paradox

December 22nd, 2017 - 1:16am

Doctor Stu.Again your claim that us dissenters cannot handle a woman for a series just misses the real point which is that we believe that the CONTEXT of this change is all wrong. NOT the gender as such. If in fiction/fantasy the gender seems clearly established and not even a discussion point for most of over 50 years there are certain expectations as to how the character can continue to be accepted and developed without alienating much of a viewer and fan base that this is turning something into something they no longer recognise however much it is claimed to be still the same.(Other than if this a reflection of infiltration by a PC agenda by a publicly funded organisation, the BBC, that gives the green light to Moffatt’s in universe tinkering which is carried on by Chibnall.)

If the Doctor had always been female and then was changing into a male the same basis of consternation would apply just as if Lara Croft, Ellen Ripley or Sarah Connor suddenly had a gender reassignment.

Pats86

December 22nd, 2017 - 8:12am

Doctor Stu, you are way off the mark. It is not about the seeing a female on TV for at least one series! the lore and history of this show has been tampered with in the last few years.
Would anyone stop watching had a male been cast? No, everyone would watch to see how he did. Will everyone watch now Jodie has been cast? No they will not, this is not rocket science, it is too much a change for some and I respect that.
Moffat and Chibnall have purposely alienated many fans from the show now without a care for those fans who have watched for as long as they can remember.
I personally have watched all my life, over 40 years, I have signed petitions to get the show back after it’s cancellation in the late 80s, I have continued to buy all the books, video’s, magazines to try keep it alive and it worked we got the Doctor back.
And for what? So someone could turn up and rip the lore and rich history up without a care for those who had a male role model who was anti violence to look up to. Yes we have female role models too, but it did not have to be the same character.
Both my wife and daughter are not happy of the change, my daughter will no longer watch! And I know a large number of long time fans will not watch anymore, male and female.

Doctor Stu

December 22nd, 2017 - 11:29am

The idea of potentially having a female Doctor goes back to classic who when the idea was always a possibility and back in 2005 when the series was being brought back there was speculation of a female doctor and similarly leading up to David Tennants regeneration. For me this isn’t a new idea and I’ve had 10 series’s to get used to it. I can’t speak for everyone but a majority of people loved Missy surely that’s ‘changing established lore’. For me I find jt so difficult to find the issue because I just genuinely don’t care it doesn’t bother me, as long as the writing improves dramatically I’ll stay loyal. The Doctor is still a male role model but now can be a female role model too like Rey, Jyn etc. I always felt the companions work as role models as well for their bravery, intellect etc.
And Politcally correct bothers me so much this term is stamped on everything. For me ‘PC’ is the people who say ‘let’s ban the term Father’s Day because some people might not have a father’. Jodie’s casting for me is two things; the writers choice, or the fact of having equal representation on television which is an entirely different thing. We’ll all have different opinions but for me I see no issue, maybe if they’d announced the doctor was now going to have 7 arms I’d have an issue but for now no. And I didn’t mean to come across as blunt as I did in the previous comments, there’s how you say something in your head and then how it looks written down.

T.A

December 22nd, 2017 - 6:39pm

It’s not just about the gender, it is also about the agenda pushing things they have been implanting in to the show. If you want an example look at what the bbc are doing with their staff, just to look progressive in today society.

Pats86

December 22nd, 2017 - 8:51pm

T.A with comments like that you will never be employed by the BBC!

T.A

December 22nd, 2017 - 9:09pm

Noooooooo, my future as the 22nd dr is ruined.

Pats86

December 22nd, 2017 - 9:53pm

Consequences of actions T.A, as Chibnall might find?

T.A

December 22nd, 2017 - 10:29pm

True.

Adam

December 23rd, 2017 - 11:23am

simon.ss1 puts it perfectly…you don’t mess with and change the gender of an iconic 54 year old established male character…it’s not cute,smart,fresh,bold or new…but Stupid…and it’s the BBC trying to be ‘Hip’ and ‘Getting with the times’ just to appease a small minority who are of the same mindset…
Splitting the shows fans is the most saddening part of it all…as for me..along with others..Doctor who as we’ve known it for 50 plus years ends this christmas day…

The Moffat Paradox

December 24th, 2017 - 5:01pm

It’s claimed that Sidney Newman was supposed to have toyed with the idea of a female Doctor but they did not commit and so the long lineage of male Doctors was established. So if they were going to do this they should have done so around the time of the Hartnell/Troughton era before even the 60’s women’s civil rights movement here and in America got underway. But they didn’t and a lineage of male actors was established so that it’s fair to say that the Doctor became automatically synonymous with a male character and if that were not the case then the gender change wouldn’t be so polarising..(Jon Pertwee did say being a Doctor Who fan “tends to be more of a male sport”.)

I recall that there was a unorchestrated campaign more than a mooted possibility for a female Doctor by a minority during more the hiatus between the classic and modern series with what I considered more laughable suggestions that someone like Jennifer Saunders or Joanna Lumley should get the role.

But nothing to be taken seriously until Moffatt and his in universe tinkering. and yes I very much liked Michelle Gomez as Missy but those of us who oppose changing the gender of the Doctor HIMSELF were under NO illusion (as with the gender alteration of the general in “Hell Bent”) that this was the thin edge of the wedge for reasons already discussed.

Creating in universe fluidity for Gallifreyans was one thing. ACTUALLY doing it with the central character was quite another.

There’s certainly no one better than David Bradley to re-create the first Doctor. I just hope his performance will give fans unfamiliar with the classic series (especially the early years), the interest to watch some classic Hartnell. That’s the greatest legacy that David Bradley could achieve.

I really love all the effects here. Even if they’re aren’t the best it feels like effort us been put into them and I love how they are using the series 5 promo vortex as the actual vortex in this episode as we haven’t seen the vortex in a while. However I really didn’t want to see the regen. And the regen effects Have to be improved.

Whereas I am beyond excited, I do wish they hadn’t shown that shot of him regenerating in the TARDIS!! I know it was almost certainly going to be alone in the TARDIS and be explosive, but now I DEFINITELY know it’s in the TARDIS and explosive… Would have liked to have seen that completely fresh on Christmas Day! Also is it me or does the entire shot of him regenerating look 100% CGI- as in event the TARDIS and the setting looks fake… It’s weird

It all looks very promising. I just hope we don’t see the first Doctor regenerating standing up, arms stretched. Because that’s exactly how it DIDN’T happen. Moffat…Don’t mess up established continuity pease!

Moffat has already messed with established continuity..in that the first Doctor never looked like David Bradley..

R1ch1e

December 10th, 2017 - 1:02pm

He didn’t look to much like Richard Hurndall either

Adam

December 10th, 2017 - 3:46pm

Yep and i didn’t like him either…but his casting was due to a last minute script re-write because of Tom’s decision not to take part. The great William Hartnell is no longer with us..so I wish they’d just leave the memory of him and his fantastic first Doctor alone..

R1ch1e

December 10th, 2017 - 4:18pm

I feel sad for Paul Mcgann. A great, underused Doctor that has been practically breaking the Tardis doors down for years now to be back in the show and they have recast William Hartnell instead. The poor man must be gutted. I am looking forward to seeing David Bradley though

THE ERGON

December 10th, 2017 - 11:23pm

If anything if they have to recast past doctors in the future, at least pick actors with similar looks and of a pedigree that can carry it off without imitation. They made the perfect cast choice with david bradley. he is excellent casting.

12th Doctor Fan

December 11th, 2017 - 8:14pm

He’s already done it with the great Clara Behind every doctor adventure of course no one can criticize this as we’re all supposed to love Clara.

Adam

December 12th, 2017 - 10:35pm

I’ll second that R1ch1e….for me McGann should have been cast as the War Doctor in the special…it would have added another layer to his character and given him a fitting send off he so deserved…

Anonymous

December 8th, 2017 - 8:14pm

That time vortex looks exactly like the one from the 2010 Doctor Who publicly photos. Shame that time vortex wasn’t used and we got the cloudy lightening one instead.

I was thinking the same thing. The Master held his for about minute before dying, but The Doctor seems to be able to hold his regeneration for quite a while, which is odd.

Therealwhovian63

December 9th, 2017 - 5:33pm

The doctor hasn’t been killed in a quick way with a bullet, in call of duty terms he is kind of bleeding out slowly. Has it been cleared up what killed him. Was it the cyberman or anything before that, which Moffat is holding secret so that he can surprise us.

T.A

December 9th, 2017 - 5:39pm

He should be dead all ready the cyber man hugged him ,then two weeks later he is still holding it in some how and then he got lazed like two or three times by a cyber man and explodes the place his at, he should of regenerated by now, we do know a time lord can hold a regeneration but not for too long.

Doctor Stu

December 10th, 2017 - 10:56am

But then i suppose it’s only the second of his new set of regenerations so maybe he can last longer without regenerating immediately

T.A

December 10th, 2017 - 2:32pm

Maybe, but know that’s another Moffat plot hole.

Pats86

December 8th, 2017 - 5:41pm

Those glass people, I know what they are up to I can see right through them!

Pats86 I know we don’t usually agree on some topics, but well done for the joke lol

The Temporal Jelly Baby

December 8th, 2017 - 7:08pm

Nice one. 🙂

Pats86

December 8th, 2017 - 7:21pm

No doubt we will disagree in the future whovian but were all fans of the show otherwise why would we be on here? And no point taking everything too seriously is there? Plenty of time to do that when Jodie takes over!

Typical Moffat, unoriginal. Poor Capaldi he deserves so much better.
Hope the writing is of a decent standard but I won’t hold my breath!

Anonymous

December 9th, 2017 - 2:27am

To be fair the general public (non whovians) these days will expect a sense of continuity throughout the doctor who universe, although I do hope when 13 leaves that chibnall gives her something a bit more original…

Doctor Stu

December 8th, 2017 - 4:37pm

The effects look a little…..meh especially the regeneration shot and is that the ship from the series 10 final grabbing the tardis?

I know hopefully the effects will be better on the day, because at the moment it does not look great.

Doctor Stu

December 8th, 2017 - 6:00pm

I can get over the vortex and the glass people because you know…budget but the regeneration effect is really grating on me it just looks so wrong

booboo

December 8th, 2017 - 6:03pm

we dont know if thats the actual regeneration anyway, they have a habit of showing false starts

Doctor Stu

December 8th, 2017 - 6:08pm

Good point it might be another ‘punch hands into the snow to stop it’ moment

T.A

December 8th, 2017 - 6:12pm

Why are the regeneration lines so long, it looks weird.

whovian

December 8th, 2017 - 7:08pm

T.A I agree, wouldn’t the energy from the regeneration damage the TARDIS walls? I know that it can be repaired, but not the point.

T.A

December 8th, 2017 - 7:21pm

Tennant’s in my opinion looks better. The fake regeneration in the lie of the land looks better.

Pats86

December 8th, 2017 - 7:26pm

I liked the McCoy/McGann regeneration, subtle yet effective.

Adam

December 10th, 2017 - 12:31pm

McMoy into McGann is still my favourite regeneration visually and effects wise. Like you say Pats86..it’s subtle yet effective and works beautifully.
I’m not a fan of the way it’s been handled in new who…arms outstretched with fireworks is too over the top…and unoriginal as it’s blatantly lifted from the Highlander movies..

Mick C

December 18th, 2017 - 12:15am

As long as they don’t ever,ever do that ridiculous regen from Tom Baker to Davidson again I’m happy with just a normal regeneration.

The Outcast

December 18th, 2017 - 7:21am

Did we ever find out what exactly the Watcher was? I know that it appears in the mind during regeneration, but how did the 4th Doctor’s take physical form?

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