Morning! :) Long time no talk. I am in the process of founding Tolkien Society Romania, along with a friend, and that's one of the reasons my editing here on TG has been done sporadically. We want to launch the website and have our first meeting as fast as possible, since it is already exams period and then the summer will come, the members will go back home for the holidays. Unfortunately, as I was warned by one of the guys at Tolkien Society, websites have a way of taking longer to complete than we are expecting.

Morning! :) Long time no talk. I am in the process of founding Tolkien Society Romania, along with a friend, and that's one of the reasons my editing here on TG has been done sporadically. We want to launch the website and have our first meeting as fast as possible, since it is already exams period and then the summer will come, the members will go back home for the holidays. Unfortunately, as I was warned by one of the guys at Tolkien Society, websites have a way of taking longer to complete than we are expecting.

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And here comes my question. I was wondering if I could get "inspired" from what I wrote here to form a few articles on the TSR website. To make things clear, I would get inspired strictly from what I wrote. I do plan to continue in the future to write both for TG and for the TRS website and NOT the same stuff. So it won't be copy there paste here and vice versa. But for now there's a lot going on, my time is very limited and I am trying to launch the website with as few blank pages as possible. It’s the first Tolkien Society ever created in Romania and I want things to go as good as possible. And as fast as possible.

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And here comes my question. I was wondering if I could get "inspired" from what I wrote here to form a few articles on the TSR website. To make things clear, I would get inspired strictly from what I wrote. I do plan to continue in the future to write both for TG and for the TSR website and NOT the same stuff. So it won't be copy there paste here and vice versa. But for now there's a lot going on, my time is very limited and I am trying to launch the website with as few blank pages as possible. It’s the first Tolkien Society ever created in Romania and I want things to go as good as possible. And as fast as possible.

So, what do you think? I haven't had time to go through what I wrote yet, but if you want article names and such, I'll take a look and let you know.

So, what do you think? I haven't had time to go through what I wrote yet, but if you want article names and such, I'll take a look and let you know.

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:Personally, I don't have a problem with that. TG's text is available under [[wikipedia:GNU Free Documentation License|GNU FDL]].

:Personally, I don't have a problem with that. TG's text is available under [[wikipedia:GNU Free Documentation License|GNU FDL]].

:: Oh, good! That's good news. I will promote TSR, both here and in the TS links page (I'll see if I can find more places). Alright, then, thanks a lot. :) ~~ [[User:Þelma|Þelma]] 08:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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Carn Dum

Hi, what did you not like in that article's analysis? shouldn't we mention that the name can be Sindarin, and if so, we don't know the words? Temp 08:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, at first I disagreed, but with the current reword it's fine. I removed the phrase "The circumflex ^ is used by Tolkien in Sindarin extra long vowels[2], but these words have not been attested in Sindarin." because there are plenty of those in Sindarin, even with the û - Udûn, for one. But properly sourced, it's good. Note that we're still working on referencing, but we pretty much agreed on these. Keep up the work - don't be shy, go ahead and completely rewrite an article instead of adding a couple of sentences if you think it needs it. Even very minor characters like Gildor Inglorion or even Nob could have a very good article. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Things

How do you get those little boxes and such that say your name and have links to talk, profile, etc.? —Unsigned comment byBreragor (talk • contribs).

Just click on "edit" on those pages and see the code they are composed of (some combination of {{, | and ]] etc etc) Sage 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Reading order

Hi again... I know new fans usually wonder about the reading order and I don't know if you ever thought about it. Now it just crossed my mind to make such an article about anyone interested. I plan to start such an article and I hope you have stuff to add. Sage 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I do have a newbie's reading order, actually. I give it occasionally on IMDb, where I'm a regular on the LotR boards.

The Hobbit - purely for introductionary reasons

The Lord of the Rings

Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age - basically a summary of LotR from a historian's perspective

The Third Age parts of Unfinished Tales (though The Drúedain and The Istari can be skipped for now)

The rest of the Silmarillion

The rest of Unfinished Tales

The Letters

I just don't have a clue what to call such an article. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Elvish database

I read somewhere that the creation of a Tolkienian wiktionary was one of the ambitions of this wiki. Check out my first attempts. Sage 16:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Template

I like it. My only concern is that perhaps references are overloaded and I would point your attention to some minimalism. There is no need to see everywhere "J.R.R. Tolkien" and "J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.)" again and again in almost every reference. I mean people knows who wrote them. After all, the wiki is about Tolkien.
I am telling this because in a proposed guideline it was (by you?) mentioned that well-known facts need no referencing (like that Bilbo was a Hobbit). Same perhaps would apply to the References themselves.
Of course overly formality is a respected option. Sage 13:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It can be a bit over-the-top, of course. But my main goal with always including the author was meant for the secondary and semi-secondary works. Originally, I favoured just doing Book, "Chapter", but I think that got expanded at one of the meetings.

"Vinyar Tengwar 45, page 24" says nothing to anyone who doesn't have VT (and even to people that do). When JRRT wrote it, it must be made clear. When someone other than JRRT wrote it, that must also be made clear. Just my thoughts. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Template:VGC

I put in the talk page of the template while I called it VGC. Also, I put in the publisher as a way to substitute the author found on template:HM. --Pinkkeith 22:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I read the talk pages after I edited, and wanted to respond, but Safari left me. We don't have a standard (yet) citation. Last year, I tried to get some consensus on the matter, and we sorta formulated a couple of things, but they were shelved for a while; let's just say there was a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer.

Also, keep a couple of things in mind. While chapter summaries can go in present tense, character pages (such as Amartiel) would have to be past tense. Also, avoid contractions like "isn't". -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 22:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

It's taken from the article for the greatest part but I added the last sentence about his fall. - Eldarion Telcontar 21:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Like it. I really had one wish: that it included Glorfindel and Eowyn. I am going to change that date around, though. And properly credit the image ;P -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 21:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Songs

I will consider it. And thank you for the "poem" installation, i didn't knew it existed. As for Khazad-Dum, It is spelled so in Summoning's CD. However, I've added the line (-). Originally it is written "Khazad Dúm" mthomas 07:53, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

New Articles for Battle for Middle-earth 2

May i have permission to create several articles about Battle for Middle-earth 2? For Example, "Dwarves in BFME2", that analyse the Dwarven force, and its accuracy in Tolkien's writings or its differece from it. Another example is "Maps of BFME2" that states and describes every map in the game and if it has differences from the original one (Forlindon in the game-Forlindon in Tolkien's writings). - mthomas 16:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope. That's for a section "Portrayal in adaptations" in Dwarves proper, Forlindon, or maybe a section "Differences from the books" in BFME2, detailing changes in geography. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

"Grelvish"

The phrase on my user page was designed to frustrate you, but I deemed it dumb and therefore took it off my user page. It said, roughly, "This is designed to frustrate you, It uses both Sindarin and Quenya, Use it to frustrate others." However, I took it off because nobody will take the time to translate it. LotRfan01 00:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I actually took some time, but gave up when nothing made sense. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Multiple language words

If they are unrelated languages, I separate them with ----. Related identical words like aran are commented together. I still struggle with an easy readable layout Sage 11:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking sort of a wiktionary approach, is that a good idea? (Aran needs cleanup, btw). -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Calendar

As I'm working on the events in Arda I have created a Google Calendar in order to keep track of the many events in different years. I inserted the events between April 2009 and March 2010 (unfortunately Google doesn't offer a Shire Calendar^^) and included the year in the description (e.g. "3021 - Samwise returns to Bag End").
Here comes the address.
I think that it could prevent us from losing track, couldn't it? :)
-- Eldarion Telcontar 21:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

That's a good one. It certainly helps you keep track of everything. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 21:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Decipher Cards

Oh, and i have a collection of Gimli's cards (around 20) each one with different attributes and names (Gimli-Lord of the Glittering Caves/Gimli-Faithful Companion for example). Shall i upload them? (In the To-do-list is written that every Decipher card shall be uploaded. If so, we can take them form here.mthomas 11:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, didn't know Thorin III had one. But Fror and Farin are NOT the characters from the Appendices, so I've removed those pictures from the articles. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, a scaled down version of the full card can be done? We do need a Fairuse-Decipher template for it, though. They're apparently (c) by NLP (New Line?), TE (Tolkien Enterprises) and Decipher. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by "scaled down"? we can place it as a card or only the image. the images resolution is 350x400.mthomas 11:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought of uploading the images scaled down to about 75%. But since several other sites have them at 100%, I don't think it will be much of a problem fair use-wise. I think it's a better idea to categorize the decipher cards under their image set, rahter than what characters are included. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

intersting. let me know if you have ideas of sub categorizing. If you want to upload images, i've given you the link.mthomas 12:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, look at here. If we categorize them as "Category: Images from Reflections" or something (maybe "Images from Reflections (Decipher cards)"?), that way we can make the individual set pages redirects to the category. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Dear Ederchil,

I want to make a question: How can I get rollback rights (if there are any)? I am already a rollbacker in another wiki, Halopedia (www.halo.wikia.com), and I would like to know how can I obtain these rights here

Well, we don't just give out rollback rights here. I've got rollback rights on several wikia's too, but those were given to me after I actually did something about vandalism. We're a very small-staffed wiki project, but any vandalism is quickly reverted by sysops. --Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

When you say a small-staffed wiki project, how many do you mean? Of course, I don't expect to have the same community as Wookieepedia but I believe we are many. Am I wrong? Finally, how can someone become a Featured Gatekeeper? I this something like the User of the Month? I don't plan to nominate myself, I want to know.--Odysseas-Spartan53 18:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, we have two sysops - Hyarion and me, and for the rest, its users. We might expand on that in the future, but for now, it's sufficient.

We don't have any guidelines for Featured Gatekeeper. Yet. It's one of those plans that never really got off the ground. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Tengwar

In some articles I have added such a "disclaimer". I think they were removed by someone or in others I forgot to add. Thanks for reminding me. Sage 20:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinking something that is unmissable, much like the other templates. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Btw I was surprised that you had in hand the complete sources about the Gondolindic Runes. Do you actually possess these copies, or found any online references? How come you know the source about almost anything mentioned? That's impressive! That article would need some more exact sourcing Sage 09:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I only have PE15, and the other refs are mentioned there (but not precise). I don't have the Mallorn issues, but I've ordered them. -- Ederchil(Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

TSR

Morning! :) Long time no talk. I am in the process of founding Tolkien Society Romania, along with a friend, and that's one of the reasons my editing here on TG has been done sporadically. We want to launch the website and have our first meeting as fast as possible, since it is already exams period and then the summer will come, the members will go back home for the holidays. Unfortunately, as I was warned by one of the guys at Tolkien Society, websites have a way of taking longer to complete than we are expecting.

And here comes my question. I was wondering if I could get "inspired" from what I wrote here to form a few articles on the TSR website. To make things clear, I would get inspired strictly from what I wrote. I do plan to continue in the future to write both for TG and for the TSR website and NOT the same stuff. So it won't be copy there paste here and vice versa. But for now there's a lot going on, my time is very limited and I am trying to launch the website with as few blank pages as possible. It’s the first Tolkien Society ever created in Romania and I want things to go as good as possible. And as fast as possible.

So, what do you think? I haven't had time to go through what I wrote yet, but if you want article names and such, I'll take a look and let you know.