Quoting limited to 4 levels deepI remember reading that Hogan's goal in Sami and EJ's story was to never let EJ do something to Sami or anyone else that Sami's never done herself. That way, they would always be on an equal playing level.

Has anyone ever said EJ wasn't mentally ill? I don't think so. I think Sami Brady is mentally ill, LOL. They're one in the same. Which was Hogan's original plan.

I disagree. I dont think Sami is mentally ill. But that's because Sami could be explained with a combination of her imaturity and her past. A 15-16 year old Sami kidnapped Belle because she, in her immature mind, thought she was protecting her father from her mother's infidelity, while saving her parents marriage and she thought she could still give her sister a good home. While screwed up, that's not mentally ill. That's why when John found out he didn't hold it as her. He just steered her into the right direction.

A 16 year old. Sami drugged Austin because she thought if only he would be with her then he would see how much she loved him and he loved her. And they would finally be together. Sami didn't do it to get pregnant. She did it because she was immature and like a lot if young girls thought sex equaled love.

Is that the reason EJ raped Sami? Not that reconned it wasnt rape it was a misunderstanding mess. Is there a rationale to faking Sydney's death? How about Rafe 2? Or stealing organs? Or threstening to kill Will? Or killing that cop... etc

Was it the way he was raised? But wasn't he raised in a normal home in Britain? That what he says when he talks about his childhood. So how does one decide murder, blackmail and rape is fine? Unless one is a nutjob.

Sami was 18 when she raped with Austin. Not 16.

Again, you're taking things that happened POST-Hogan Sheffer and trying to incorporate it to the idea I brought up. EJ hadn't done half the things you're talking about when Hogan Sheffer had his plan laid out.

As for explaining EJ's childhood, it's been changed so many damn times, that who knows if it was explained. I think the general idea is that EJ was raised by Stefano. That alone would fuck anybody up and explain any horrible crime committed, LOL.

I believe she was 17 because Lucas was 19. I tend to not care if she was 21. Still a big difference between that and grown man of Ej's alleged age.

I still hold firm to the rediculousness of being equal to someone by doing now what they did a decade ago. Didn't Sheffer write the rape? He went on to do it again on Y&R.

And EJ has said several times that he was raised by Susan and that nerd guy.