I've talked to two players the past three weeks that told me they don't see Egnew, a rookie last year, making it out of training camp next year.

"He should have been cut this year," one told me.

That doesn't account for Egnew learning to block and learning his assignments better and getting stronger and faster this offseason. But another player I spoke with said none of that will ultimately matter with the former third round draft pick.

This shouldn't come as a surprise.........I don't believe he dressed all season. Doubt if there is any trade value for him, so might as well let him show up for training camp..........but if there is not a significant change.......cut him quick. We don't need another busted experimental project like Gates or Wallace.

Because it was a pick we acquired for B-Marsh, whom we never attempted to replace this past year and obviously because of Ireland's shakey drafting record.

And griping about it is going to help us how? My point is that we've know Egnew was a waste for a while...he's not a patience guy. Marshall isn't an answer and he didn't take Chicago to the next step. He would have helped, no question there, but trading him away didn't kill this team in the long run.

We could say that about practically everything that's ever called into question. Alas, this is a forum and we talk about it. I'd rather talk about our own franchise then continue to whine about former coaches or other AFC East teams. LOL

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My point is that we've know Egnew was a waste for a while...he's not a patience guy. Marshall isn't an answer and he didn't take Chicago to the next step. He would have helped, no question there, but trading him away didn't kill this team in the long run.

It's not just about B-Marsh. It's about planning and poor draft selection. For a 3rd rounder to bomb as hard as he did this year is a serious miss.

He was a reach. It didn't work out. Bye Bye.It does look unfavorably on Ireland though.

I knew it was gonna be a wasted pick on draft day. Missouri tight ends have no place in the NFL.

(Martin Rucker, Chase Coffman) and now Egnew

Yep, it was a reach. They said on draft day that he would be a project. He may "get it" in the offseason. Nothing to lose sleep over. You really want Ireland to definitely hit on the first 3 rounds and hope for a gem in the later rounds.

lol well you saw the topic, clicked on it, and posted in the thread so ... ?

Let me clarify to both you and Rock. Its fine to discuss for a brief period, but is Egnew really worth a long conversation? We've griped, Marshall is gone and Miami still doesn't have a receiving threat at TE.

I'd prefer to start talking about who to target rather than continuing to point out how bad Ireland botched the pick. But being the freedom loving Libertarian that I am, you guys can wax poetic about anything your hearts desire.

Well since we are talking draft and draft experts, lets see what they said about Egnew...

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Mel Kiper Jr.Verified‏@MelKiperESPNMissouri TE Michael Egnew may just have the best hands of any TE in the draft, including Stanford's Coby Fleener. He's also fast & athletic.

And Kiper again post draft

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TE Michael Egnew (third round) _ “He caught the ball very well; his numbers were down (last year) because of the play of his quarterback. But he’s going to get a lot bigger and stronger. He’s going to be 265 (pounds) in a couple of years, with the same ability to catch the ball.”

Everything else I have read seems to be the same about him, projected 3rd rounder, needed to be developed, needed to beef up a bit, and bad at blocking

So this guy is not something surprising to me. It seems he is exactly what everyone said he was, I guess some just expected him to develop faster and make an impact this year....

I am no draft expert either, however Kiper is regarded as one.... If you google his name and draft prospect you will find page upon page of information, all if it telling us what we know..

lol well you saw the topic, clicked on it, and posted in the thread so ... ?

Let me clarify to both you and Rock. Its fine to discuss for a brief period, but is Egnew really worth a long conversation? We've griped, Marshall is gone and Miami still doesn't have a receiving threat at TE.

I'd prefer to start talking about who to target rather than continuing to point out how bad Ireland botched the pick. But being the freedom loving Libertarian that I am, you guys can wax poetic about anything your hearts desire.

Thank you for your permission to discuss Phin related topics and post thoughts on Dave's board.

Also the "Growing consensus: Egnew won't make it" thread thanks you for another contribution. : )

Well since we are talking draft and draft experts, lets see what they said about Egnew...

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Mel Kiper Jr.Verified‏@MelKiperESPNMissouri TE Michael Egnew may just have the best hands of any TE in the draft, including Stanford's Coby Fleener. He's also fast & athletic.

And Kiper again post draft

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TE Michael Egnew (third round) _ “He caught the ball very well; his numbers were down (last year) because of the play of his quarterback. But he’s going to get a lot bigger and stronger. He’s going to be 265 (pounds) in a couple of years, with the same ability to catch the ball.”

Everything else I have read seems to be the same about him, projected 3rd rounder, needed to be developed, needed to beef up a bit, and bad at blocking

So this guy is not something surprising to me. It seems he is exactly what everyone said he was, I guess some just expected him to develop faster and make an impact this year....

I am no draft expert either, however Kiper is regarded as one.... If you google his name and draft prospect you will find page upon page of information, all if it telling us what we know..

Fine, then pick the dude in the 5th round, not the 3rd. Alas being compared to Coby Fleener means he should've been playing this year and at least contributing like Coby. Regardless, it's not always about measureables.

Honestly though, I hate when we bring various draftniks into the discussion. Everyone seems to love so-and-so when they support their argument about a player, but never when they don't.

This shouldn't come as a surprise.........I don't believe he dressed all season. Doubt if there is any trade value for him, so might as well let him show up for training camp..........but if there is not a significant change.......cut him quick. We don't need another busted experimental project like Gates or Wallace.

He was on the field for seven snaps in the Buffalo game (last home game of the season). Although he wasn't targeted on any of the seven plays, he ran his routes correctly every time according to the coaches.

He was on the field for seven snaps in the Buffalo game (last home game of the season). Although he wasn't targeted on any of the seven plays, he ran his routes correctly every time according to the coaches.