Thanks PennyPurple I found that link too. To you does it look like the complete investigative files thay were released back in April 2018 minus the photos and videos?

I remember viewing some docs back then but I wasnt ready to read and view it was jusy too real for me. Then I wss thinkin its ok I can always go back and view later. Now info is off the Carver County website which is weird. Thanks Penny.

Everything was moved to a Dropbox link when the Carver County website kept crashing. That info isn't there anymore but the Dropbox link is still accessible with all the original files https://www.dropbox.com/s...XQD4a?dl=0

The same exact stuff over and over again. If that's the energy desired around here, then that's the kind of energy desired around here. But let's not dress it up like something caring and empathetic. Its salacious gossip.

The character assassination of Prince is endlessly titillating.Neverending speculation.Armchair psychology.Projections.Feeding.Juicy.

"So much has been written about me, & people don't know what's right & what's wrong. I'd rather let them stay confused." ~ Prince.

The same exact stuff over and over again. If that's the energy desired around here, then that's the kind of energy desired around here. But let's not dress it up like something caring and empathetic. Its salacious gossip.

The character assassination of Prince is endlessly titillating.Neverending speculation.Armchair psychology.Projections.Feeding.Juicy.

Is is character assassination to say someone may have suffered from diabetes? Someone might say it's "none of our business," but you choose the words character assassination?

Have you applied the words "character assassination" to many other Org topics?

The same exact stuff over and over again. If that's the energy desired around here, then that's the kind of energy desired around here. But let's not dress it up like something caring and empathetic. Its salacious gossip.

The character assassination of Prince is endlessly titillating.Neverending speculation.Armchair psychology.Projections.Feeding.Juicy.

"So much has been written about me, & people don't know what's right & what's wrong. I'd rather let them stay confused." ~ Prince.

Good job. You have chosen the perfect Prince quote to illustrate and explain why there has been "neverending speculation" about his death. Perhaps if his death hadn't been so confusingly at odds with the life he led people to think he really led the "armchair psychology" (aka as wisdom born of experience) wouldn't be so prevalent. As to the "character assassination" observations...it's not like he died of natural causes at a ripe old age surrounded by his loving family and friends. We all have to deal with that sad reality and ignoring the horrific circumstances will not make them go away...it's called denial...and denial was a factor in his death.

Just before your recent appearance, I said, "there's such a long way to go." That's my holla, and you'll hear it again, because there are so many with this attitude. You're far from the first, and you won't be the last.

Amidst the endless topics on the Org, you single out a topic related to P possibly having been in a difficult place with a substance. Many Org topics are discussed repeatedly, and at great length, despite "no new developments." You single out this topic as "character assassination of Prince."

So I could thank you for affirming my statement. However, I don't need your affirmation, as folks with such attitude are everywhere.

Carver county could have got dna from Kirk or the record store owner from discarded items to test the pill bottles. The second bag that the dea found containing more pills may clue when or who provided the pills.

Carver county could have got dna from Kirk or the record store owner from discarded items to test the pill bottles. The second bag that the dea found containing more pills may clue when or who provided the pills.

From reading the investigation file, I've never gotten the impression that LE was terribly concerned about where he got the deadly pills. I wonder why...

Carver county could have got dna from Kirk or the record store owner from discarded items to test the pill bottles. The second bag that the dea found containing more pills may clue when or who provided the pills.

Do you mean the guy who was back-stage in Atlanta? I don't remember, did LE talk with him?

Carver county could have got dna from Kirk or the record store owner from discarded items to test the pill bottles. The second bag that the dea found containing more pills may clue when or who provided the pills.

Do you mean the guy who was back-stage in Atlanta? I don't remember, did LE talk with him?

Thank u June7 for opening up this topic again for anyone on this forum still interested in talking about or reading about it. I for one am interested because for me, I am still not over his death and am in a way haunted by it. It is not a haunt that keeps me up at night or contributes to an unhealthy obsession. A haunt in a sense that I feel, still after the death investigation is over, we all are still not getting the full story. You will have the people here go on and on about leave this alone he deserves his privacy. Let the man rest. But I say since Prince was a beloved public figure who touched the souls of so many and died by the the hands of a major pain med and I am sorry in such an odd way and found in an elevator in his musical oasis, that I do feel his fans and supporters do deserve to know the truth. The truth could bring full closure from any grief and also help people struggling with pain management and possible addiction to get the help they need. This all still does not make any fuckin' sense to me.

Excellent post.

Nobody can, or has the right to, tell anyone for how long they should grieve. I'm coming up to a year in my own son's death (on the 12th), and I'm still beside myself. Talking ... talking ... about his death, him, remembrences, etc., does help.

What people don't understand, or don't think about, is the condition or public understanding of how death affects those immediately surrounding you, or how it actually is felt, or how you're perceived from everytone around you when you lose a loved one, it's expected - we live, we die - it's in the bible. It's life. It's death. Most of us are, and have accepted the fact that this is so. But, when the death is your son, your child, it brings on a whole new sideline of empathy, sympathy and stigma. Yes ... I said stigma.

People are strange.

I have actually lost friends due to his death. Not in a way that they think you suck and have publicly stated that they never want to speak to you again, or anything like that - it's subtle. It's just a disappearance. And, normally I wouldn't have even noticed it if it were someone I was just an aquaintance of. But, this one person is/was a very dear friend, who, when this happened, just ... stopped ... talking ... to ... me.

This one I noticed - and, I called him on it. I called him at home about after a month after Alex died. His wife answered and she seamed slightly surprised I called and was cordial and offered her condolences and stammered out some sympathetic wishes, but seamed kinda nervous. We chatted a bit and I asked to speak to her husband - my 'brother'. That's how close I thought we were.

He got on the phone and my first words to him were, "Are you okay? I mean, are we okay?! Because ... I haven't heard from you in awhile, and I wasn't sure if you heard about Alex (I knew he did, I just threw that in there to offer him an out) and, you know, I don't understand why you didn't reach out?"

He answered, "Oh ... yeah ... I heard about that - and, I am so sorry for your loss ... understand, that it's just too close to my sister's death, I honestly couldn't offer you anything comfort wise, it's all too difficult for me right now".

And, right there, I suddenly wasn't upset with him anymore - just a little hurt that he couldn't have disclosed that to me instead of letting me think we were not as close as I thought we were. This goes back to my first paragraph - and, I don't have the right to tell him how long, or how to grieve.

He apologized, and I know he felt bad, but, so did I for not knowing why he didn't contact me. But, again, I wasn't expected to know.

I wrote a song about Alex and our family (his two siblings and his mother - my ex and myself) called "Easy". After the song talks about our family growing up together, splitting up, etc., it goes into what happened 'in present day' and how I'm dealing/not dealing with this. The last verse, which I believe needs to be brought out more, talked about more, made aware of more is this:

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"So, please don't stop being my friend

You can stop me on the street again

Say, "How nice it is to see you, man"

Take me for a beer, and then

That might make it easier

Instead of trying to avoid these things - that's not okay

That's not the way

And if you do, that makes it easy

Well, a little bit easy"

---

My point was not to shame him (or those who didn't, or couldn't, talk to me). But, to remind people that being silent hurts even more. The parents who lost a child are shunned. Nobody wants to be reminded in this life that this happens. It's too tragic. So, they instead, subconciously take care of it by not dealing with it at all. And they just stop talking to you. I understand ... I do. But, that's not the way.

This is one of the reasons I believe that his death, Prince's, should not be held silent just to appease those who can't deal with it, or think it's too long after, or etc., etc., etc. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Nobody should put their own beliefs, or restrictions, upon somebody else. Nobody should bitch at another person because their discomfort in dealing with something should be the same yours. You should be able to grieve for as long as you need to, publicly or privately. The choice in posting this thread is that simple for me. And anyone who has discomfort with this discussion should not click on the thread - the topic or subject matter, is clearly listed in the title. If it is not for you, simply skip this thread. No one will miss you or your reason for doing so.

Thank you. And thanks to all of you who have offered your condolences. I can't state how much those little words, or that moment of sympathy means to me.

I've never commented on a post of yours in the time I've been here. Sorry for the loss of your son. I have a teenage daughter and don't know how I could handle that. I'm of the age where my parents generation are passing quickly. It's sad.

Prince was in essence my imaginary friend as a teenager. His passing from his addiction was devestating and confusing. This format to communicate and share is valuable.

I have looked at the DEA files that were released, but wonder if that is all that is in the files.

I wonder if any agency has spoken with Chaka Kahn. She voluntarily went into rehab for fentanyl after Prince's passing. She may have had the same source.

I am mostly familiar with Chaka Khan's music. Does she live in Minneapolis? I thought she stopped touring with Prince in the early 2000's.

I have to review the DEA file in greater detail but there are probably redacted parts to their file.

They may not have the same supplier, but it would be something to look into. Maybe she was using pill form. She may have had the same connections without even knowing it.I do know that Prince's passing scared her enough to get help (the announcement said as much).

There was a lot of leads that were just dropped or never followed up on.

I am still confused on the dialud. It was in P's system on the 20th. None were found by Carver County during their initial search. But to put things in perspective, they did miss the 2 bottles of fentanyl in the vitamin c containers. I am not dogging anyway, just stating facts.

I am also stuck on the last part of the doctor visit on the 20th. Per Dr. S, he and Prince spent almost 30 minutes talking about withdrawal from opiattes (paraphrased). I wonder if Prince had a major reality check that he was not getting off this stuff on his own. Which is slightly confirmed of what he told Kirk in the car about not beating it (paraphrased).

I also did not see a shredder in the photos of PP during the initial search. Though it could have been overlooked. I only mention this because of the accusation the Phaedra, Meron and Kirk were shredding things.I wonder if this has ever been validated.

I've never commented on a post of yours in the time I've been here. Sorry for the loss of your son. I have a teenage daughter and don't know how I could handle that. I'm of the age where my parents generation are passing quickly. It's sad.

Prince was in essence my imaginary friend as a teenager. His passing from his addiction was devestating and confusing. This format to communicate and share is valuable.

Thank you for your efforts to keep this Prince thing alive.

You’re welcome. I believe it to be an important part of healing - discussion. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate them.

Kiran Sharma told me WhatsApp conversations between Kirk, Phaedra and Meron took place both *before* and after Prince’s death. Kiran classified her interactions with law enforcement as “very frustrating,” adding they “did not release everything I said.” More soon.

Kiran Sharma told me WhatsApp conversations between Kirk, Phaedra and Meron took place both *before* and after Prince’s death. Kiran classified her interactions with law enforcement as “very frustrating,” adding they “did not release everything I said.” More soon.

Important & quick point of note. Did anyone see Andy Murray's press conferance announcing his pending retirement at the age of 31. This follows hip surgery & the pain is apparently incredibly bad & has left him unable to tie his shoe laces without pain.

This makes you truly appreciate how much pain P must have been in & to continue working, touring, writing, recording was frankly a miracle.

His quality of life [Prince's] would have been truly awful as he got older even after possible withdrawly treatment for dependancy.