Lawyers for Huguely were in a Charlottesville court December 15 seeking access to Love's medical records, a request the prosecution calls "a fishing expedition."

Although the medical examiner determined that Love died May 3 from blunt force trauma to the head, Huguely's attorney, Fran Lawrence, argued that the cause of her death was unknown, and that's why he subpoenaed records from UVA Athletics Department, UVA Student Health, and from the Charlottesville-Albemarle Rescue Squad, the last of which Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Chapman had already agreed to enter the court record.

Amphetamines were found in Love's body, according to the toxicology report, in an amount that would be consistent with her prescription for Adderall, a stimulant widely used to treat Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, said Bill Gormley, who performed the autopsy for the Medical Examiner.

Gormley said the level of amphetamines in her blood, .05mg, didn't reach a level sufficient to cause death, but he also acknowledged that amphetamines can increase the likelihood of cardiac arrhythmia, or erratic heartbeat, something that can also, he noted, result from blunt force trauma.

Love had a blood alcohol level of .14; and in Virginia a level of .08 is considered drunk driving. Gormley testified that the amount of alcohol wouldn't cause death.

While Love's skull was not fractured, Gormley noted an array of other injuries including a three-eighths-inch hemorrhage near her right jugular vein. Gormley pointed to a spot close to the jaw line.

"Bruising that high in the neck–- it's not some place you fall down," said the doctor, demonstrating with his hand placed over his mouth and jaw how such an injury could occur. He also noted that the spot is near the carotid artery, which can initiate cardiac arrhythmia when flow is disrupted.

Gormley also noted a 2-3-inch hemorrhage on Love's scalp. "It wouldn't necessarily cause death, but it could in conjunction with other injuries," he said. And she had bleeding deep within her cortex in the center of the brain. "That injury requires some sort of force," said Gormley.

"The pattern of brain findings is unusual for blunt force," countered Jack Daniel, a Richmond pathologist who testified for the defense.

Daniel contends that some of Love's injuries stemmed from oxygen not reaching her brain, and cardiopulmonary resuscitation, which the Rescue Squad performed for about 25 minutes.

Reviewing medical records is done as a matter of course when doing autopsies, said Daniel, who estimated he'd done around 2,000 such inquiries, and he said the records could show other drugs in Love's system that could cause arrhythmia.

Commonwealth's Attorney Chapman pointed out that Love had a prescription for Adderall with a bottle found in her backpack. "If you don't find other bottles [at the scene], you'd just be fishing in the records," he accused.

"It would be a very long list," replied Daniel, and defense attorney Fran Lawrence reminded Downer of the "extraordinarily serious criminal offense" his client faces.

"We don't have a cause of death," said Lawrence, suggesting that his medical expert look at the records under seal and with a gag order.

"We'd be happy to draft a subpoena relating to the Adderall," said Chapman–- but not a blanket look at all the medical records, he said.

Downer, who said he'd brushed up on statutes before coming into the courtroom, said, "I'm not going to permit a fishing expedition by a doctor. I believe the better part of valor is for me to review the documents in camera." That's legalese for in private.

And after his review, Downer said, he'd allow the lawyers to argue about which records should enter the record.

Huguley's preliminary hearing–- originally slated for June and then pushed back to October–- is now slated for January 21.

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Whateva! December 22nd, 2010 | 2:17pm

Since The Hook is being slower in reporting than I can possibly stand at the moment:

"The ruling came down Wednesday from Charlottesville General District Court Judge Robert H. Downer Jr. Attorneys for George Huguely wanted to show Love died from an irregular heartbeat caused by medication. The medical examiner ruled she died from blunt force trauma." - NBC 29

Whateva! December 19th, 2010 | 10:27am

AJ- he ADMITS to choking her and BANGING her head against the wall...what do you think the outcome of this would be? He WILLFULLY did this...I think this is wilfull intent to HARM the victim...if the outcome is that the victim dies...then murder, no slap on the wrist for "manslaughter".

Whateva! December 22nd, 2010 | 9:22pm

So has anyone checked out this "hired gun" pathologist that is giving his "opinion"??? I did!!!! Draw your own conclusions...

Also, there had to be some type of pre-meditation because he didn't want anyone to see her computer. Can we presume that he theatened her before killing her or was Huguely in need of borrowing a computer to get on Facebook?

AJ December 19th, 2010 | 1:31am

Isn't wilful intent to kill someone necessary to be accused of murder? I would tend to think that manslaughter of some degree would be a more appropriate term for what Huguely did. Plus her system containing adderall and a raised alcohol could cast suspicion on how she died. Alcohol depresses the system and adderall speeds it up thus causing an irregular heart beat. People who have adderall in their systems are more prone to over consuming alcohol before they notice since adderall is keeping them more alert than usual.

Abby December 17th, 2010 | 2:57pm

Mr. Huguely, his parents and attorney should be ashamed of themselves. Mr. Huguely needs to man up. He killed a lovely, bright young lady who had a beautiful life ahead of her. He deserves to serve a long, lonely jail term. I'd call his act "premeditated murder".

Fluoride Crystals December 21st, 2010 | 8:32pm

So shouldn't bar owners be paying child support for all the children whose parents conceived them after having one too many at the bar?

fuzzy wuzzy December 18th, 2010 | 11:59am

4. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of robbery or attempted robbery;

I would think that since he admitted to the police that he removed her computer from the house, that would be murder in the furtherance of a robbery. Even though he disposed of it and then told the police where it was, that would still be robbery in my mind.

Bryan December 16th, 2010 | 10:39pm

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JJ Malloy December 16th, 2010 | 1:54pm

He will get 10-15 years probably. That is my guess.

just a thought December 16th, 2010 | 9:40pm

Virginia abolished parole, remember? Offenders serve 85% of their sentence. It's not up to some arbitrary panel or individual when an offender is released. No more 1/6th of the sentence.

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 16th, 2010 | 10:32am

The circumstances do not rise to the charge of capital murder.

If it can be proven he was trying to rape her, that would change things. Or if she was pregnant at the time. Or if he had been over 21 and she under 14. Or if she had already been served a subpoena in another pending criminal matter against him. Even in these circumstances you would have to prove premeditation.

JJ Malloy December 16th, 2010 | 10:40am

Gasbag

What if he had broken into her house? Would that have made it possible for Felony Murder?

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 16th, 2010 | 11:17am

§ 18.2-30. Murder and manslaughter declared felonies.

Any person who commits capital murder, murder of the first degree, murder of the second degree, voluntary manslaughter, or involuntary manslaughter, shall be guilty of a felony.

The following offenses shall constitute capital murder, punishable as a Class 1 felony:

1. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of abduction, as defined in § 18.2-48, when such abduction was committed with the intent to extort money or a pecuniary benefit or with the intent to defile the victim of such abduction;

2. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another for hire;

3. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by a prisoner confined in a state or local correctional facility as defined in § 53.1-1, or while in the custody of an employee thereof;

4. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of robbery or attempted robbery;

5. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of, or subsequent to, rape or attempted rape, forcible sodomy or attempted forcible sodomy or object sexual penetration;

6. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a law-enforcement officer as defined in § 9.1-101, a fire marshal appointed pursuant to § 27-30 or a deputy or an assistant fire marshal appointed pursuant to § 27-36, when such fire marshal or deputy or assistant fire marshal has police powers as set forth in §§ 27-34.2 and 27-34.2:1, an auxiliary police officer appointed or provided for pursuant to §§ 15.2-1731 and 15.2-1733, an auxiliary deputy sheriff appointed pursuant to § 15.2-1603, or any law-enforcement officer of another state or the United States having the power to arrest for a felony under the laws of such state or the United States, when such killing is for the purpose of interfering with the performance of his official duties;

7. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of more than one person as a part of the same act or transaction;

8. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of more than one person within a three-year period;

9. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of or attempted commission of a violation of § 18.2-248, involving a Schedule I or II controlled substance, when such killing is for the purpose of furthering the commission or attempted commission of such violation;

10. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another pursuant to the direction or order of one who is engaged in a continuing criminal enterprise as defined in subsection I of § 18.2-248;

11. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a pregnant woman by one who knows that the woman is pregnant and has the intent to cause the involuntary termination of the woman's pregnancy without a live birth;

12. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a person under the age of fourteen by a person age twenty-one or older;

13. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another in the commission of or attempted commission of an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4;

14. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a justice of the Supreme Court, a judge of the Court of Appeals, a judge of a circuit court or district court, a retired judge sitting by designation or under temporary recall, or a substitute judge appointed under § 16.1-69.9:1 when the killing is for the purpose of interfering with his official duties as a judge; and

15. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any witness in a criminal case after a subpoena has been issued for such witness by the court, the clerk, or an attorney, when the killing is for the purpose of interfering with the person's duties in such case.

If any one or more subsections, sentences, or parts of this section shall be judged unconstitutional or invalid, such adjudication shall not affect, impair, or invalidate the remaining provisions thereof but shall be confined in its operation to the specific provisions so held unconstitutional or invalid.

No one deserves this type of death - and I agree with all here who are objecting to "Frank"'s ignorant yet trying to be educated comments.

Drug use? It was a prescription for treatment of ADD which it appears from her achievements she used. She drank - she was of age and it was the end of the year. It doesn't give anyone the right to bash her head against the wall - into a door or beat her to death. Change venue - as one defense attorney once told me - you defend an ass - you come up with asinine excuses.

Unfortunately - it is true - UVA Male Students have gotten away with rape and murder in the past here.

Melissa December 15th, 2010 | 11:11pm

Don't we have a local attorney who throttled his client recently and wasn't his name "frank"?

Rob December 16th, 2010 | 12:07pm

I don't think gasbag feels what he is stating is right in terms of it is how things should be but sadly he is pointing out what simply is. 1st degree murder is not as simple as his actions caused her death, the justice system has more red tape than that. If he did not plan to go over there and kill her a good defense lawyer will stop him from being convicted of 1st degree murder. How can anyone prove that was his intent? I can't imagine anyone with any common sense saying if he had not gone to her home she would be here today and we would all be commenting on something else, his actions AT THE VERY LEAST contributed to this young lady passing away and what the prosecution will have to do is sell a jury on how much he contributed to it. Personaly I think 100% but the laws are what they are and don't always provide for the justice she deserves. This guy deserves to spend every second of the rest of his life in prison but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't and whoever said he would be working for daddy is correct.

HarryD December 20th, 2010 | 6:01am

HollowBoy- watch the trial unfold. Remember there are no good, innovative attorneys- they all go to past cases and the "preppie killer" case is identical in results and that is what attorneys look for.

"The owner of Dorrian's Red Hand came to a private settlement with Levin's parents on their claim that the bar had served alcohol to Chambers in excess."

Unfortunately, bar owners are responsible for a consumers actions after they are served. Well known and well documented.

Tina December 19th, 2010 | 7:51pm

This story makes me sick. What the defense is implying is a slap in the face to the Love Family. This woman did not deserve to be beaten and left for dead. If Huguely had not forced his way into her apartment, slammed her head into the wall, and stolen her computer he would not be guilty. She would not have died if it were not for his animal behavior. He will get three square meals a day, enjoy sunshine on warm days, visit with his family, one day get marreid, have children, etc.... Love will never get any of those chances. Huguely robbed her of her future, her life, her parents hopes and dreams. He deserves to rot.

Frank Laurence December 15th, 2010 | 7:02pm

This young man is entitled to avoid murder or manslaughter charges.
The fight with the addled Ms. Love may very well have left her alive, albeit with a somewhat reduced capacity to enjoy life, if not for her drug use.
It appears that she participated in a physically tumultuous relationship, and suffered unintended consequences.
Mr. Huguely and his family should absolutely not be subjected to public attacks, taunts, or assaults of any kind when they appear in Charlottesville.

Newanda December 15th, 2010 | 7:42pm

Careful, folks. Too many public comments and the defense will argue that Mr. Huguely can't get a fair trial in Cville and move for a change of venue.

ken jamme December 15th, 2010 | 7:44pm

Let's be "frank", frank, you are a clown

ken jamme December 15th, 2010 | 7:45pm

I live in wisconsin

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 15th, 2010 | 7:51pm

Since Charlottesville and Albemarle County are home to the University of Virginia, the defense attorneys would be insane not to ask for a change of venue in this trial.

Bryan December 15th, 2010 | 7:55pm

Aderall is huge on grounds as a drinking accoutrement, along with Zanax, percocet, and vicodin. Not to mention all the pot and cocaine thrown in for good measure.

So we have the toxocology of the victim, but not from the perp? Well, it is Charlottesville after all - and he did go to UVA. Old habits die hard.

p December 15th, 2010 | 7:56pm

So... Love has a prescription for this medication, (which is abused by many college students WITHOUT a prescription), Huguely slammed her face into the wall and she's the amphetamine-junkie who died from her prescription medication.

Of course. Makes perfect sense.

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 15th, 2010 | 8:13pm

Remember folks, reasonable doubt!

It doesn't take much to convince just one jury member who has a very poor understanding of "reasonable doubt" to hang a jury. The defense team is doing their job whether we like it or not.

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 15th, 2010 | 8:23pm

This case is starting to remind me of all the deaths caused by tasers being applied to suspects with cocaine in their system. The cocaine doesn't kill them. The taser doesn't kill them. But the exicted delerium caused by the taser application, in conjunction with the cocaine, kills the suspect.

Adderall, alcohol, smacked around. If the victim had not been on Adderall and alcohol, would she have survived the beating? Or did self-medication with Adderall and alcohol contribute to her own demise? Gonna be a very interesting trial.

Wog December 15th, 2010 | 8:31pm

So Frank, I suppose you would applaud Menken's statement, " A gentleman never strikes a lady [pause] without provocation." What's your take on Vandersloot? Women who touch a guy's computer deserve to have their memory erased [pause] forever?

appauled with Frank December 15th, 2010 | 8:54pm

Gasbag - so one shouldn't take their prescribed Adderall and drink because someone may beat them and they would die? Please. An asinine argument to say the least...

If the defense was doing their job - they would tell this dude to plead out - and take his punishment like a man. Oh - that's right he isn't. Trouble with all of society is no one takes responsibility for their actions - we have lawyers who place the blame on everything else...

Old Wahoo December 15th, 2010 | 8:56pm

That wasn't a "fight." That was a beating.

So glad we have lawyers ready and able to drag a dead
girl's name and reputation through the mud.

Whateva! December 15th, 2010 | 9:55pm

@Frank - "Mr. Huguely and his family should absolutely not be subjected to public attacks, taunts, or assaults of any kind when they appear in Charlottesville." - since you leave this statement for last, then I am guessing this has already happened. I am sorry for his family having to go through this and if people have used this as a way to express their outrage at his crime. However, did his family ever once take the time to try to find this young man some REAL help for his obvious anger/control problems? If not, then maybe the public's reaction could be as justified as the defense you are attempting for him. No sympathy here for this crime or it's perp.

cookieJar December 15th, 2010 | 11:02pm

Are all you people really so unable to spot someone pulling your leg for kicks? "Frank's" comment was designed to elicit exactly the response it got. You were played for suckers and played right along.

Wog December 16th, 2010 | 2:04am

Frank needs to say sayonara so he can go write on another bathroom wall - that's the way he's treating this forum - adios mf yoyo

Realist December 16th, 2010 | 3:39am

INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. Don't forget that folks.

Somebody December 16th, 2010 | 4:54am

SPOILED until ROTTEN. So make sure the door is shut and sealed.

HarryD December 16th, 2010 | 6:06am

As I mentioned when Boy George was arrested, he will be alive and well in a matter of a few years and hired by daddy to work in his company so that he will never have to endure a background check- as a murderer, you can never claim to have "paid for your crime by doing the time".

Taunt away, just as Boy George beat away.

Whateva- agreed........how about adding that if this punk had not attacked killed this young lady, there would not be a story- PERIOD!

Nunya December 16th, 2010 | 6:14am

His lawyers are just earning their $. Inevitably this punks pretty face is going to make a lot of inmates happy. That's all that matters in the end.

Biff Diggerance December 16th, 2010 | 8:40am

It takes a callous and deeply corrupted soul to argue that something other than beating the living sauce out of that woman killed her. A fair trial is one thing, and everyone deserves that; a wickedly debauched attempt to put the blame on something other than his hands is evil.

Like John Lennon said "How do you sleep at night?"

RealityCheck December 16th, 2010 | 8:44am

Adderall is commonly used by ADD-free college students to focus attention when they write papers, take exams, or give class presentations. Since there is no diagnostic test for ADD, it suffices to reel off a list of ADD symptoms to a doctor who, if complacent, will inquire no further and write a prescription. Some students spike Adderall with caffeine, synergy with which can cause or trigger tachycardia or panic attacks. Love could have had ADD, of course, and been legitimately medicated, but how relevant is this to her COD?

jeezlouise December 16th, 2010 | 8:48am

"It takes a callous and deeply corrupted soul to argue..."

I thought diversity is a good thing and individualism is supposed to be worshipped.

Right?

Col. Forbin December 16th, 2010 | 9:13am

I'd love to be on the jury.

shempdaddy December 16th, 2010 | 9:35am

Grasping at straws to try to get a better plea deal. No way do they want to go to a jury with this, even a Charlottesville jury. If they can plant some notion that other circumstances contributed to her death--can try to get this down to 20 years in jail or so.

The problem is the ridiculousness of the premise. Clinical levels of the prescribed drug would not cause death, even when mixed with alcohol, and they will have a very hard time convincing anyone of that. If he came to her apartment, found her door locked, and broke down the door, he clearly thought about committing violence to her(he had the aforethought part) and clearly he had malice. This is first degree murder and he should spend the rest of his life in jail(no parole) for the crime. The defense is trying to throw enough crap out there that the prosecutor will plead this down to 20-30 years behind bars.

Send it to a jury--see how sympathetic Huguely looks to them. I wish they had kept capital murder on the table just to keep pressure on the defense to plead out for more time.

My bet is that this doesn't go to trial--the question is how many years he gets. I certainly hope it is at least 30.

JJ Malloy December 16th, 2010 | 9:39am

Whta about what was in his system?

If it weren't for Huguely, this girl would be alive. Simple as that.

A small amount of adderrol and 4 beers in your system don't cause you to die when you bang your head. What causes you to die, in any state, is repeated banging and punching of your head against the wall by a 230lb,drug crazed, athlete, spurned lover until you end up in a bloody heap on the bed.

HollowBoy December 16th, 2010 | 9:50am

President Kennedy suffered from Addison's Disease and other serious medical problems.
If Jack Ruby had not shot Lee Harvey Oswald and the case had gone to trial, I suppose the defense would have argued that it was the medical problems that caused the death and not the bullet.
That would make as much sense as it does here.
Ms Love was using a lawfully prescribed medication and was of legal age to consume alcohol. It should not even be an issue.
Can't help but think that once again violence against women is not taken seriously, that no matter what the situation is someone will try to say the woman "brought it on himself."
I have little respect for defense lawyers. Huguely should plead guilty and throw himself on the mercy of the court, and take his chances. And yes, capital murder should be the charge.

There is a reason why the word Ã¢â?¬Å?lawyer” sometimes puts a bad taste in the mouths of many. This would be one of those reasons. I understand Huguely’s lawyers don’t want to leave any stone unturned and are trying to find any avenue to get the least severe sentence possible for their client but you have to feel for Love’s parents who have to sit there and hear this as a strategy of the defense.

Kids take adderall everyday, right or wrong. To bring in a pathologist as a private consultant to say this was the cause of her death is an insult to Love’s life and death, plain and simple. In other words, Ã¢â?¬Å?Sure, George banged her head against the wall repeatedly, but you know, that’s not why she wound up dying, it was Adderall. Yeah, that was the culprit. Not George. If your daughter hadn’t been taking Adderall, she probably would have graduated from college a week later and we’d be looking at little ole assault charges on my boy here.”

What a bogus argument. Here's hoping the other team of lawyers win the justice Yeardley Love deserves.

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 16th, 2010 | 5:21pm

Confessions are tossed out of court every day in this country. We have no idea what he was subjected to before finally saying what the cop shoppe wanted to hear. They generally use a lot of dirty tricks.

angel eyes December 16th, 2010 | 1:32pm

In the end it's going to be tough for a jury to go along with a murder conviction, first or second degree, since statements made by people as to "gonna kill that mo%$&ker" etc. are made so frequently by people as to be mostly hyperbole, and true intent to kill is going to be a tough call. My money says he goes voluntary manslaughter just like the last preppy punk who killed Walker Sisk with a knife and ended up in jail for less than 3 years. Frankly, I'm surprised the defense is trying the drug induced arrhythmia gambit, but maybe they're figuring as in the Sisk case to throw up so much dust the jury dies of boredom before it's over. At any event they'd do just as well to play up the whole thing as a lovers quarrel gone wrong due to both participants being drunk. Since it's a girl and not a guy, I say the oaf does 8-10 years instead of The Andy Alston slap on the wrist, but we'll see clearly later on, won't we?

jeezlouise December 16th, 2010 | 2:29pm

"He will get 10-15 years probably. That is my guess."

I was thinking the same thing but I think he will plead 2nd, get 15 and be out in 8 to 10. Not sure how the parole time is added up now.
Heart goes out to the Love family and my heart really goes out to victims (or family) who have to accept the backroom dealings of our justice system.

Shocked December 16th, 2010 | 3:21pm

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bobinthhook December 16th, 2010 | 3:52pm

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DD December 16th, 2010 | 4:42pm

There's one person who can stop the madness - George.

If he ever had any love for this girl he should call off the experts and lawyers who will say anything and do anything to get his fathers money. I find them heartless and disgusting. The police have his confession. Time to man up and take the punishment.

Observer December 16th, 2010 | 8:06pm

From Observer (with a capital "O"):

This case will never see a jury. Fran McQ. Lawrence (with a "w") will enter into negotiations with Dave Chapman (representing the Commonwealth) that will result a plea agreement for his client. [FTR: This case does not now nor has ever met the requirements for a charge of capital murder; see earlier criminal code.] My bet: Huguely will plead guilty to murder in the second. The only two questions that will remain are: 1) how long a sentence will Judge Downer impose; and 2) how long will Huguely actually serve?

I remain most concerned about the second item above. I cannot speak to the standards today but it used to be that in VA the convicted served approximately one-sixth of their sentence.

hello December 16th, 2010 | 9:32pm

Steve, Robbery could make it a capital crime, if you can prove intent.

Observer, Judge Downer will be done with this case once the preliminary hearing is finished. The case will be handled in the Circuit Court. Downer will not sentence anyone, ever on felony crimes. And, there is zero chance of a plea agreement

Observer December 16th, 2010 | 10:18pm

You are absolutely right, hello, with the express exception of your last statement "And, there is zero chance of a plea agreement."

I strongly disagree that there is "zero chance", and fully expect to hear news of a plea agreement at some point.

HarryD December 17th, 2010 | 5:09am

Bryan- thanks for exposing this situation as it really seems to be. The result will be, as I have suggested numerous times, permanent employment for Boy George at Daddy's company without a necessary or needed background check.

small town, small minds December 17th, 2010 | 7:37am

UVA fingerprints all over this. Anything to protect their reputation and keep their donors from the truth.

We'll never get to the truth in a criminal trial. Only hope is a wrongful death suit. Are the Loves going to step up?

Whateva! December 17th, 2010 | 8:33am

DD - he put his hands on and beat a woman that weighed almost half of what he did....fat chance of him "manning up"....He is no man.

bobinthhook - good to know he does have a sense of fear, wonder if he has made the connection of what his victim may have felt that night...I doubt it, but one can only wish

Do you really believe... December 17th, 2010 | 1:50pm

That was actually Huguely's lawyer who posted on this board?

Do you actually think a defense attorney in a high-profile case would comment here, on the message board of a free weekly?

For that matter, most of the lawyers in Charlottesville pull down a hefty hourly fee that averages $200 an hour. Why would anyone with such a vested stake in this case waste his time jumping into this Hook message-board fracas?

LOL

Gasbag Self Ordained Expert December 18th, 2010 | 1:51pm

fuzzy wuzzy, willful and deliberate might possibly apply. Probably not, but they might fly. But even so, the premeditation would be extremely hard to prove. I don't think anybody, including the cop shoppe, believes he went there with the intent to rob or murder her.

fuzzy wuzzy December 18th, 2010 | 2:12pm

Yeah, it's a stretch at best. I think that it's funny that some of the people on here are hooting and hollering "she was on DRUGS!!!". I take Addreall, everyday, and before that I took Ritalin, since the 5th grade. I work in public safety, does that all of a sudden make me a dangerous druggie who should be jailed? I hope not, because if anything, it makes me better at what I do, it's a prescribed medication for a medical problem. She wasn't on drugs, she was undergoing treatment for a medical condition.

I'm willing to bet he has a history of complaints of violence against him at Uva. I'm also willing to bet his parents have made a huge contribution to UVa. Ted Kennedy got caught cheating, his parents built a library (or something) Teddy got a degree. I'm not implying the situations are simalar but, I am implying that UVa is all over this thing. They are covering up, I'm sure. Covering daddy's money too.

Yes December 18th, 2010 | 10:27pm

Ted Kennedy cheated on a Spanish exam at Harvard, was suspended, and then reinstated after military service.

HarryD December 19th, 2010 | 7:31am

"small town, small minds"- many agree with you, but the Love's have stepped up, they gave the ultimate sacrifice

Just recall, Robert Chambers- the "preppie killer", was never re-habbed. Sentenced 5-15- released and is now back in prison for dealing drugs.

Boy George will surely see the same type sentencing and fate.

Perhaps the bars that served both Boy George and Ms. Love will be charged as well- check out the Chambers link- very interesting indeed.

How could a bar be charged for serving a person of legal age as Love was?
If he had not gone into her apartment and slammed her head into the wall, she'd still be alive. End of discussion.
The medical condition defense argument shows just how far some unscrupulous defense lawyers are willing to go.
Seem to recall that Lawrence got some frat rat acquitted some years ago in a rape charge involving a date rape drug.
Ms. Love deserves justice, not a batch of allegations and insinuations that imply she somehow was responsible for her death.

ricardo January 5th, 2011 | 4:40pm

please remember, suspects are innocent untill proven guilty in a court of law.

HarryD December 22nd, 2010 | 5:53am

Absolutely! Another idea given to the liberals to further the cause that no one is responsible for their own actions! Even POTUS is claiming to be a victim of all Presidents in the past! Perhaps there is a bartender in there someowhere who will be involved.