I tend to agree with the good doctor about not being a fan of the " official sunspot number", but it is one of many ways to measure solar activity. Notice on the chart how the 10.7 cm radio flux measurement can differ greatly from the SS #.

I tend to agree with the good doctor about not being a fan of the " official sunspot number", but it is one of many ways to measure solar activity. Notice on the chart how the 10.7 cm radio flux measurement can differ greatly from the SS #.

Reminds me of a prince song 'polar rain'......no that was 'purple rain'

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan

This old story from 2010 even states in the opening sentence that the Thermosphere (Ionosphere) is REBOUNDING.

QUOTE: July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.

The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

Translation: “We’re going to need a lot more funding between now and the time I retire in order to study this and improve our understanding. Otherwise our next press release will be even scarier.”

There's an awful lot of universe out there which NASA does not understand. However, lobbying for grants and more funding is something they DO understand. Don't be alarmed by scary headlines such as "Giant breach in magnetosphere"; "Atmosphere collapsing"; "Tenth Planet Found"; etc., etc. These stories are put into the media to grab headlines for scientists to draw attention to their otherwise boring research and to garner future funding.

This particular story came out of the CO2 global warmist camp at NASA. Since the Space Shuttle was winding down, NASA found the politicians more eager to fund climate research. So please read past the scary headlines and do some boring fact-checking. These stories are deliberately exaggerated for the Doom-clamoring public to squeal and squirm a few more dollars out of their children's inheritance for Uncle Scam to play with.

Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Please don'e bait me, TS. Dude's only been criticized by knowledgable folks who point out the deliberate fear-factor.What happened to the mega-quake "watch", y'know the solar eclipse, the spooky astrological alignments, full moon etc. I bet the next big quake will happen during a spooky alignment (since they happen every day) of planets or ANYTHING other than normal geologic movements.By the way, any updates on Planet X? It was supposed be here by now.

This old story from 2010 even states in the opening sentence that the Thermosphere (Ionosphere) is REBOUNDING.

QUOTE: July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.

The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

Translation: “We’re going to need a lot more funding between now and the time I retire in order to study this and improve our understanding. Otherwise our next press release will be even scarier.”

There's an awful lot of universe out there which NASA does not understand. However, lobbying for grants and more funding is something they DO understand. Don't be alarmed by scary headlines such as "Giant breach in magnetosphere"; "Atmosphere collapsing"; "Tenth Planet Found"; etc., etc. These stories are put into the media to grab headlines for scientists to draw attention to their otherwise boring research and to garner future funding.

This particular story came out of the CO2 global warmist camp at NASA. Since the Space Shuttle was winding down, NASA found the politicians more eager to fund climate research. So please read past the scary headlines and do some boring fact-checking. These stories are deliberately exaggerated for the Doom-clamoring public to squeal and squirm a few more dollars out of their children's inheritance for Uncle Scam to play with.

Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Please don'e bait me, TS. Dude's only been criticized by knowledgable folks who point out the deliberate fear-factor.What happened to the mega-quake "watch", y'know the solar eclipse, the spooky astrological alignments, full moon etc. I bet the next big quake will happen during a spooky alignment (since they happen every day) of planets or ANYTHING other than normal geologic movements.By the way, any updates on Planet X? It was supposed be here by now.

:pinkDoomsday:

Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hugh ... come on now. I don't bait anyone here. I do express my own opinion however, and on this, we just don't agree.

This old story from 2010 even states in the opening sentence that the Thermosphere (Ionosphere) is REBOUNDING.

QUOTE: July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.

The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009—a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

Translation: “We’re going to need a lot more funding between now and the time I retire in order to study this and improve our understanding. Otherwise our next press release will be even scarier.”

There's an awful lot of universe out there which NASA does not understand. However, lobbying for grants and more funding is something they DO understand. Don't be alarmed by scary headlines such as "Giant breach in magnetosphere"; "Atmosphere collapsing"; "Tenth Planet Found"; etc., etc. These stories are put into the media to grab headlines for scientists to draw attention to their otherwise boring research and to garner future funding.

This particular story came out of the CO2 global warmist camp at NASA. Since the Space Shuttle was winding down, NASA found the politicians more eager to fund climate research. So please read past the scary headlines and do some boring fact-checking. These stories are deliberately exaggerated for the Doom-clamoring public to squeal and squirm a few more dollars out of their children's inheritance for Uncle Scam to play with.

Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Please don'e bait me, TS. Dude's only been criticized by knowledgable folks who point out the deliberate fear-factor.What happened to the mega-quake "watch", y'know the solar eclipse, the spooky astrological alignments, full moon etc. I bet the next big quake will happen during a spooky alignment (since they happen every day) of planets or ANYTHING other than normal geologic movements.By the way, any updates on Planet X? It was supposed be here by now.

:pinkDoomsday:

Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hugh ... come on now. I don't bait anyone here. I do express my own opinion however, and on this, we just don't agree.

Just for clarification Hugh, I am not convinced in regard to his theory of planetary alignments either, but do believe the magnetosphere is in a weakened state.

Solarsoft is showing the C8.4 coming from the northeast limb. I don't see any ARs near there, so this was either a filament eruption or a new region is forming there. We are expecting the return of regions 1598 & 1599 in the south. Here's what they looked like last time-

:1598-99:

The SIDC comments on the big filament liftoff on the east limb (which coincided with the LDE from 1613 hyder flare):

COMMENT: Solar activity has been eruptive during the past 24 hours,featuring three C flares from NOAA AR 11613. The C1.4 long durationflare peaking at 07:51 UT on November 16 was associated with a filamenteruption near AR 11613. Concurrently, a filament on the eastern limberupted. The available coronagraph data from COR2 A aboard STEREOsuggest that the corresponding CMEs will not be geo-effective. MoreC-level flares are expected within the next 48 hours, with a chance foran M flare, especially from AR 11613. Geomagnetic activity was at quietlevels (K Dourbes between 0 and 3; NOAA Kp between 0 and 2) during thepast 24 hours. Quiet (K Dourbes < 4) conditions are expected forNovember 16, 17 and 18. [link to sidc.oma.be]

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan