Not defending Bruce Lee, but so did my Instructors they all drunk werid alcohol drinks (with dead snake in it), MJ and some mind control drugs, to experience the out of body mediatation experince. Said I'll never be a Master if I didn't, we I never did. Masters can be weird folks when you get close to them. But anything you don't understand seems weird. These guys were dedicated students of the MAs following in their Masters foot steps.

Bruce may have taken steroids back then it was used to repair and build muscles, he did have a back injury and it disapear almost. Joe Lewis suppositly helps him with body building techniques and he showed great improvement. But I don't think he took the type steroid that the Super body builder and football player took thats would harm he body and mind.

Just my 2 cent. Joe Lewis is smaller now at 60 something but he still looks good and has good aerobics. He doesn't show the signs of S-usage like Mark Gast.., Hulk Hogan and others.

Quote:The latest word was that he died from an extremely rear form of epilepsy.

Well, that sounds like a pain in the @ss!

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Quote:Bruce may have taken steroids back then it was used to repair and build muscles, he did have a back injury and it disapear almost. Joe Lewis suppositly helps him with body building techniques and he showed great improvement. But I don't think he took the type steroid that the Super body builder and football player took thats would harm he body and mind.

Yes, I can agree with that. That sounds more likely.

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If everyone got breasts at the point of using steroids, who would use them? I wouldnt expect them to say ''Yea Lee, see those big muscles, great stamina and recovery... STEROIDS.''

Its difficult to take someones word so easily. We have no way of telling if he took steroids whatsoever. My opinion is that he seemed to control what was going into his body and trained very hard so probably didnt take steroids. Nobody has any way of telling though.

Gynocomastea ('b!tch tits' to the bodybuilders out there), happen when the increased testosterone production caused by anabolic steroid misuse cause an knee jerk reaction in the male body of increased eostrogen production.

Like I said, if Steroids were something he used, it would have shown up in his post mortem tox screen, as the marijuana did.

Physique wise, Lee was nothing special (calm down in the back), he was lean, but in no way was his development unattainable without steroids, hell, Iggy Pop and Anthony Kiedis look about the same in their 40's and 50's as Lee did in his 20's.As for performance, much of the testimony of his reactions and power is anecdotal from biased sources, and from the blur between film and reality that hounds his legacy. From the footage of him training that I have seen, nothing would indicate abilities over and above those attainable through regular unenhanced dedicated training.

From the footage of him training that I have seen, nothing would indicate abilities over and above those attainable through regular unenhanced dedicated training.

But just think what he'd be like if he did take steroids!!

(BTW Cord, Are Gynocomastea (or gimes as me and friends like to refer to them) achieved by a bad diet the same as those developed by too much oestrogen? Or are Gynocomastea are different kind of tissue?

No, it is different. Poor diet leads to increased bodyfat, and both males and females have the tendency to store bodyfat on the chest, hence a heavy guy with a love of fast food and a beer or twelve tends to have an impressive set of 'man boobs', but its not gyney, its just lard

I doubt very much if Bruce Lee was using steroids unless for medical reasons. His physique didnít show the effects of steroids. Bruce Lee was one of the reasons that many martial artist started training. He was good but there are a lot of good guys about. The difference is the films made him well known.