Come on now, those gloves were pretty tight now! They were actualy the first time ever used in a fight, second ever at all!

Yeah, whatever dude!!!!!

10/03/2007 2:02pm,

Teh El Macho

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Originally Posted by El Neko

ATT last time was really fun, I think that would work

Except for my Mango :tongue6:

Jokes aside, ATT sounds good. If Kat can make it, that will be great, too.

10/03/2007 2:12pm,

El Neko

If kat is sparring I believe she should at least wear the top part of a gi (we want a fighting chance damn [I keep requesting this from every body who would maul me on standing since I want my TD punch])

10/03/2007 2:20pm,

Wolf

This might be the excuse I need to make it down there (are you guys talking coconut creek?)

10/03/2007 2:24pm,

El Matador ATT

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Originally Posted by Wolf

This might be the excuse I need to make it down there (are you guys talking coconut creek?)

Yes sir ... ATT headquarters

10/03/2007 2:30pm,

Gezere

Oh BTW ATT guys. My cousin has started going to ATT, I think Coconut Creek but I'm not sure. My Grandma is PISSED at me for it because it my fault he got into it.

10/03/2007 2:57pm,

El Matador ATT

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Originally Posted by Asia the Invincible

Oh BTW ATT guys. My cousin has started going to ATT, I think Coconut Creek but I'm not sure. My Grandma is PISSED at me for it because it my fault he got into it.

What's his name ?

10/03/2007 3:00pm,

Pandinha

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Originally Posted by El Matador ATT

What's his name ?

Well, it would be easy to pick him out. He would be young, black, and gifted. :)

10/03/2007 3:12pm,

Bahuyuddha

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Originally Posted by Boyd

I too would like some tear brew.

Look, Macho, we get your point about the necessity of being a MAN about this and letting it go, acknowledging the gravity of Rudy's public humiliation is sufficient punishment.

Except it isn't. I didn't read 1,000 posts spread out over the course of several months to watch a three-minute video and tell Anthony gg. I came for the sheer sadistic thrill of watching someone I don't like get beat up, and I'm sticking around to rub his nose in it for as long as possible. That, my dear fellow, is what we call Frontier Justice and it's a far better approximation of what MEN have historically done.

That said, I want to reiterate, because the concept seems terribly alien to some: Rudy dug his own hole. Not just a couple posts a few people disagreed with, but literally years of ****-talking, name-calling, ducking, lying, manipulating, and every other form of disreputable behavior on top of training in kung fu. I understand your point in alotting him the miniscule amount of credit for showing up, but considering all the **** he put Anthony through beforehand, showing up was expected, not brave. He satisfied the bare minimum requirements by being physically present in the ring, but it was painfully obvious he was shamed into going, not to prove a point, not for honor but simply to avoid looking like a jackass. He tried to bluff his way out of it and wound up backing himself into a corner. No respect. None.

You are right.

But -- what is the best outcome of this situation? To let a man's bad behavior ruin his livelihood (in the worst case), since his reputation as a martial arts trainer is tied to his livelihood? Frontier justice, yes. However, I think the best outcome of this is to show others who may be tempted to follow in Rudy's footsteps that he was wrong, and do it in an honorable way that reflects well on us, so that others will be more likely to join us in this effort, or at least be sympathetic to it.

Also, to show those who may have already gone down the JFS/SifuAble path that there is an honorable way out, and that is to put up or shut up. And if you put up and you lose, to lose gracefully. Our part of that bargain is to make that as easy as possible for them. So far that is what has happened.

So, the way to be the bigger man/woman/lesbian/homo, IMO, is to forgo the gratification that it would give us all to drag Rudy's face through the mud of his loss. Just let it pass, we won already.

10/03/2007 3:31pm,

Wolf

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Originally Posted by El Matador ATT

Yes sir ... ATT headquarters

awesome...ever since our gym became an ATT affiliate i've been wanting to come down.