It amuses me VV how you huff and puff at DM, but Luciana walks in and you are soft as a kitten. Someone has a crush.

Luciana, you eloquently express what I was trying to previously. Habit 1 of 7 in Covey's book is defining what is valuable to the individual, and all time management flows from that. So, priorities follow passion, and that is why I said previously that it is impossible for me to answer the question for someone else.

VV, your approach of "calling out" DM as a challenge, an invitation to share more has proven ineffective. All you got was defensiveness as a response. Not everyone is aroused by that method, even if you are.

_________________"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." - C.G. Jung

VixensVengeance wrote:I guess my questions in this thread were revolving around trying to break things down to this super simple level and then building up from there. So I am collecting opinions.

Okay - it's always interesting to hear what your motives are, when you go on one of your hunt-and-destroy campaigns

Let's look at the building blocks you're working with:

1) The pursuit of excellence2) Serving the self3) Serving others

So:

1) We pursue excellence in that which we prioritize (for the Sith, our Passion) 2) We serve the self, for it is the self that facilitates the pursuit of Passion (one cannot excel if one is too weak/ sick/ drained etc to do so). 3) We serve others when we become leaders in our communities. To lead is ultimately to serve (Not talking about rulership or kingship or dictatorship or anything else here - leadership.)

You've a natural tendency towards leadership Vixen, so it doesn't surprise me that you include this as an automatic "of course Dark-siders do this" response. But not all Dark-siders are leaders. (Although Sith tend to be. The accumulation of Power does tend to produce followers).

In this instance I can see how you would be put off that DM is not exhibiting much care towards the third point - but as you can now see too, that would not indicate a lack of interest in excellence, so much as a lack of interest in leadership.

VixensVengeance wrote:I have been studying intently and have begun to see much of the deeper meaning I think you intended to convey in pursuing power for powers sake versus pursuing power to intimidate or control others.

Oh, interesting - you will have to update me about your new insights.

VixensVengeance wrote:My pursuit of passions has gone from this incoherent massive list to 4 specific things to 3 generally defined concepts. Those concepts are forming a triangle for me now and I am trying to further refine those.

That was good to see, and I'll look forward to seeing further refinements.

Manu wrote:Luciana, you eloquently express what I was trying to previously. Habit 1 of 7 in Covey's book is defining what is valuable to the individual, and all time management flows from that. So, priorities follow passion, and that is why I said previously that it is impossible for me to answer the question for someone else.

Excellent. I assume not everyone is familiar with the Habits in Covey's book. It may be worth posting them in a separate topic, so you can discuss them and reference the link to others next time you refer to them. That will probably cut through a lot of the baggage and get us straight to the point faster next time.

How I manage time. 2:10 PM I get a phone call. I let it co to voice mail. I check voice mail and my watch that was in for repair is ready for pick up. If I took the call I would have had to talk to him. I probably saved a few minutes. I had a 3 PM appointment at another business but in the same area. The time saved allowed me to get my watch picked up and also make it to my 3 PM appointment on time.

Dragonmaster wrote:How I manage time. 2:10 PM I get a phone call. I let it co to voice mail. I check voice mail and my watch that was in for repair is ready for pick up. If I took the call I would have had to talk to him. I probably saved a few minutes. I had a 3 PM appointment at another business but in the same area. The time saved allowed me to get my watch picked up and also make it to my 3 PM appointment on time.

What I get from this is that you are good at defining priorities. So, what are your current priorities? why are you here?

_________________"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." - C.G. Jung

Now you know who asked me to come in here. The reasons behind me being here is between Mortox and I and shall stay that way. It is interesting how much you know and how little you actually know all at the same time. No I will not answer any questions on that statement or and further questions about Mortox. I have secrets to keep and giving up secrets has consequences and do not bother asking what the consequences are.

Enjoyment is doing what I want and in the time frame I want to do it because it makes me happy or feel good or in some case just helping others and making them happy and feel good. Providing a service for someone that no longer has the ability to do it for themselves any more for whatever reason.

Dragonmaster wrote:Now you know who asked me to come in here. The reasons behind me being here is between Mortox and I and shall stay that way. It is interesting how much you know and how little you actually know all at the same time. No I will not answer any questions on that statement or and further questions about Mortox. I have secrets to keep and giving up secrets has consequences and do not bother asking what the consequences are.

LOL holy shit! There are two of you??!!

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Re: VixensVengeanceI am Dragonmaster. Mortox is not me. That is all you need to know. Knowing myself as I do. My time here, will in all likelihood will be limited. I will leave and you will forget I was here. That is the way of the universe. As it always has been and always will be.