As an American, I’m a live and let live guy. As long as they leave me alone, I’ll leave them alone. What people do in their bedroom isn’t my business and I don’t care. We’re not going to be checking to see what soldiers do off duty. As long as they’re on duty they’re governed by regulations on fraternization and inappropriate conduct. That already applies to heterosexuals and it will now apply to gays as well.

I can’t believe that putting a penis into a poop filled colon is called SEX by these people. The fact it, if they were able to straighten out there twisted minds, homosexuals would realize the reason for want to put their penises anywhere stems from the natural act of procreation with a woman.

They did.
She lost the primary.
But Mookowski made a deal with the devil for her seat.
How do you think all those bad write ins happened?
Improperly filled out, mis-spelled name etc etc etc all being counted against Alaska law..

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posted on 12/18/2010 1:49:26 PM PST
by Darksheare
(I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)

I agree 100% with you on the need to dis-invite this guest. We're all Jim's guests here and should behave accordingly. It's been made clear that FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-Gun and opposed to homosexuality in ALL forms. My opinion is that any FR participant (regardless of membership tenure here) who advocates homosexuality in any way disrupts the Conservative nature of this fine forum.

We can certainly have divergent (and often passionate) viewpoints on how best to advocate Constitutional Conservatism. But there are some fundamental, immutable positions upon which we must all form a consensus. All IMHO, of course.

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posted on 12/18/2010 1:50:25 PM PST
by re_nortex
(DP...that's what I like about Texas...)

I feel sorry for American youth who join the military, they are sooooo used and abused. I wish there was a way for them to better their lives rather than having to submit themselves before this Politically Correct BS PANSY way that is America today.

You said “As an American, Im a live and let live guy. As long as they leave me alone, Ill leave them alone. What people do in their bedroom isnt my business and I dont care. Were not going to be checking to see what soldiers do off duty. As long as theyre on duty theyre governed by regulations on fraternization and inappropriate conduct. That already applies to heterosexuals and it will now apply to gays as well.”

I would agree with that as a system of rights. But we all know that many of the Gays are going to want parades and half naked “diversity days” before long - they will push it as far as they can push it.

So you’re all for those mentally unstable people who commit violent sex assaults?
(Yes, the reports are out there, homosexuals in the military commit violent sex assaults mroe often than their straight peers... imagine that.)

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posted on 12/18/2010 1:52:43 PM PST
by Darksheare
(I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)

Now ndeed, the rescued wretch intended to be lynched might still need to be arrested and handed over to the law,,, but lynching is disgusting.
Vigilantism in this country was honorable,, those committees of vigilence stopped looting after disasters, etc,,crime. But they were not at all the same animal as lynch mobs.

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posted on 12/18/2010 1:54:17 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)

Yes, the unintended consequences are unquantifiable. When I was in BCT I was a squad leader. At 2 in the morning my DI wakes me up and tells me to get Smith and bring him to the DI's office. So I go get Smith who has a swollen right eye when I get there.

We're both in skivvies and standing at attention in front of DI Thorpes desk. Thorpe starts ranting and raving about "queers" in his Army. BTW Thorpe was a tough looking black warrior with thighs and arms the size of tree trunks and a Ranger with 3 tours. Next thing I know I'm standing in a puddle of pee, Smith had peed down his leg. No exaggeration here I assure you, one never forgets standing in somebody elses urine in bare feet.

Turns out Smith had made an unwanted advance in the latrine and got punched in the face for his troubles. Sgt Thorpe tells me to get his personal stuff packed and gives me the guys civvies to get him dressed. Never saw Smith again. We assumed he went to the brig until they out processed him.

I'll be 60 this year and my fear is the guy who would have gone to the brig after the liberals get done is the guy who rightfully punched out Smith.

I was responding to a post that claimed that since we (heterosexuals) far outnumbered the homosexuals, that made us the rulemakers. In response, I noted that Affirmative action programs for blacks and Hispanics will now include homo's, in that once minority preference status is achieved, benefits unavailable to others becomes the Law.

Then discipline them... can them and fire them if they do something illegal. That’s a rule both straight and gay people live by. The law should apply equally to every one. There should be no special privilege on account of sexual orientation, any more than there is on race, gender, income, etc.

Will not allowing gay soldiers to sleep in the same tent or share a bunk bed amount to discrimination?

Excellent question, libh8er. The repeal of DADT has never been about homosexuals serving "openly" in the military; it's always been just another part of the homosexual agenda to normalize their lifestyle. Look at this like a chess game, and know that the homosexual crowd is already thinking ahead 4 or 5 moves. They have anticipated the potential problems that will crop up and are more than prepared to scream "Homophobe!".

It doesn't matter what homosexuals do, how they try and change public opinion (and they may eventually), or how much they work to break down the traditional family struture---God will still consider their lifestyle an abomination. And that keeps them constantly stirred up.

“I dont have a problem with it. Its silly to have to have people hide who they are. Ive always thought there was a case to be made for banning homosexuality in the armed service but DADT is offensive and hypocritical. Its like saying a woman can be pregnant but she needs to hide it so people wont have to face it. This is one fight that is now history.”

Are you in the military? I would guess not because you appear clueless.

My "Senators" are 1) an avowed Socialist (Sherrod Brown), and 2) Asshole Joinovich (Voinovich) who will never-too-soon-for-me be replaced by Rob Portman.

As far as marching in the streets and joining anti-homo groups, there are no groups other than chruch groups now around me that abhor sexual deviant conduct, and we also closely involve ourselves with School Board meetings to see what socialist agenda items they may have up their NEA sleeves.

Law Enforcement has a helluva time now controlling drugs, gangs, and the ne'er-do-well certain inner city population, so also expecting them to quell the "civil disobedience" (which I call the Gay Pride events) is far from the top of their involvement.

Freedom of Association is tops in my list of Freedoms; and if I'm called bigot, racist, homophobe, etc., I wear it as a badge of honor nowadays.

The problems will be endless. Including many many that im sure we cannot even imagine yet. This will be a disaster. This policy is proof that we have not faced a strong enemy in decades.
Our brushfire insurgency wars have lulled our leaders into a soft mindset.

This will bear it’s true fruit when we fight a true war again. Stalin slaughtered his officer corps in the mid-30s. It wasn’t until the Nazi invasion in 1941, that the weakness he caused in his military was exposed.

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posted on 12/18/2010 2:04:11 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)

I would not have joined the USMC back in my day if open homosexauls were allowed. I have read that the “troops” are ok with it, I find that hard to believe and fully expect recruiting to get a lot harder and a mass exit of straight troops with good job prospects back in the world. Our Congress is so bad, so destructive I fear we are all doomed. Well on the other hand as soon as gov makes the money worthless we will have much bigger things to worry about.

Are you going to advocate a ban on homosexual behavior in the military? That’s my preferred position. I do NOT support DADT because I think homosexual behavior is a sin.

But if we’re not going to have the courage to do what is right, then this entire debate is pointless. I do agree with JimRob about homosexuality, I just don’t see the point in defending what is effectively a fig-leaf for immoral behavior. My point to fellow conservatives is: change it or move on.

You know of the infamous YouTube video that depicts members of the “global warming” crowd having possession of a small black box that, with the press of a large red button, causes the offending disbeliever to explode?

Conservatives should produce a similar video, only the “box” has a large “blue” button, the activation of which results in the disembodiment of RINOs.

We could post the production on YouTube, then we shall see how the other side reacts, when it is similarly targeted.

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posted on 12/18/2010 2:05:41 PM PST
by TCH
(DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)

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