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Comment by Schlitzohr

So far I've had a very good drop rate (7 of 28) from the Dreadfang Widow's on this item. All of the ones on AH are 10g+, and considering how high the drop rate I find it hard to believe that people would pay that much for it.

Comment by rendah

15% droprate is a lie. More like 5-10%.

Comment by Freud

I've tried farming Blackfang Tarantula in Black Morass.Well, drop rate is not 80% but much more like 10% now.

Comment by Killdagnomes

Great way to farm!kill the ones in northern terrokar, fly around on mount , there are about 3 in little packs, dismount kill all 3, very high drop rate, on gurubashi they sell for 10g+ a piece, because u can sell them to the poor saps trying to level their tailoring :( (me)

Comment by knowlt15

Is it just me or does the drop rate seem to have gone down in the last week or so? I must have killed at least 300 spiders in that time and i have only gotten about 5-6 to drop

Comment by mozor

Comment by Delbin

The best place I've found to farm for this is just south of Allerian Stronghold. There are no other mobs to avoid and the spiders are fairly concentrated.

Comment by Quelurie

The Black Morass the best place to farm Netherweb Spide Silk.

Comment by jha1223

Very true. If you can manage to solo or due farm Black Morass, the drop rate is fantastic. In addition, the mobs usually give more than one leather (regular or scraps) per skin.

Comment by Shiza

Got only 1 in 20 mobs farming solo BM

Comment by DigChaos

Where is this Allerian Stronghold? What zone? Nm, i didn't recognize the name cause im horde >< Its in Terokkar Forest

Comment by Exoris

Im farming them right now. I have counted the number of spiders in Terokkar forest, and I have killed 50. I have gotten absolutely none.

Either my luck really really SUCKS or with the new patch only high-level spiders can drop it now.

Comment by ggpwnkthx

This item no longer drops in The Black Morass Instance.

Comment by Grave7

Any confirmation regarding this? Or it's only your "guess" , since you got no drop after farming for 2hours?

Comment by Spyre

Incorrect. I just looted two. Please don't post blatant statements like that if you haven't done extensive testing.

Comment by snuffed

as with many things in this game, it depends on your luck - or more realistically what the computer rolls for you, so please stop lamenting how WoWhead is wrong or you drop rates are bad. Just like rolling a dice, you only get an even chance of each number occuring after rolling thousands of times, and since no one has single-handedly killed this many widows, many would be experiencing what seems to be "unfair/uneven" rates, while others maybe getting a drop every kill. Other than that, the area outside Allerian Hold is a reasonable place, running from north to south; respawn rates are enough to keep up with at most 2-3 people at the same time, especially if there's no one trying to do For the Fallen

Comment by AfterMath213

Terokkar spiders are definately the way to go. Die easy decent respawn rate. I farmed 20 in about an hour and 20 minutes.

Comment by victomizer

i went BM to farm these i got 6 for full run that was skipping crocs aswell took me 20 mins , so tbh quite a good drop rate i was getting one say every 4-5 kills

Comment by Tsaza

1 Black Morass run got me 10 Silks in 35 minutes, killed 44 Spiders.

Comment by beaker4251

I would agree, BM is the best place to farm these. Lots of spiders, no other farmers. And if you're an engineer w/ your gadgetzan transporter it's not even a very long trip to get there :-) I port to gadget, farm some spiders for 30 minutes, hearth back to wherever I need to be.

Comment by Jeebo

Bm sucks, i killed loads of the stupid spiders and i got absolutely nothing

Comment by Makata

Just did a 65 minute session in Terrokar. 124 kills, 10 silks. Either I got very unlucky or the drop rate is noticeably less. I remember getting 1 in every 4-6 here before but now it's not even 1 in 12.

Comment by freya

Farmed silk from Dreadfang Widows and got about 15 silks in an hour. Got about 10-15g cash from the junk and venom sac drops. Also some greens to d/e.

Comment by zeebo

The other day I went farming in TF, and I had a run of 56 kills without a drop. Poor luck, really. The rate seemed to be about 15%, but similar to the old Essence of Air in silithus, it feels like you'll get them in bunches, then go dry for a while.

Comment by Frag971

Black Morass - gone there to get 4 silks for Primal Mooncloth Bag:6 spiders killed to get 4 silks. Best place ever.

Comment by d4fF

Well... I just went to TF to get 2 (two) silks for my Frozen Shadoweave Mantle... On the first spider it dropped... for the second I had to, literally, kill all the spiders in Terrokkar twice(!). That means all the spiders all around Auchindoun... twice. So I was rather unlucky. :D

Comment by duathorthad

Just finsihed a run in BM to farm some silk, having read it was the 'best' spot.

I was getting somewhere in the range of 1:12 (silk/kills).. not a drastic improvement at all on my part over Terrokar. My other problem with the BM spiders is that they either drop a silk, or nothing at all (unless you get a green item, which again is rare). Which puts them at a disadvantage over the TF spiders.

Personally, on my server, I have had no problems with the TF spiders being over-farmed so I can go there and farm away on my own. Which for me would be the only visible advantage that BM spiders have. And of course the BM spiders are harder to kill as well.

So, in short; if your server has a lot of people farming the silk in Terrokar, use BM.. otherwise I wouldn't worry that you're missing out on big numbers by staying in TF.

Comment by lcbagna

I can confirm the best place to farm them, is Terokkar. Spiders have 5000-5500 hp instead of 7000 of those from BM so you can kill them very fast and raise the amount of silk gathered.Moreover best to go south-east of Auchindum because there you can find only spiders and not be attacked by warps.Be aware they spit venom so if you can't cure it, bring some potions in your bags

Comment by Khamora

Good place also is a small area behind Sha'tari Base camp down in the south western corner of the bone wastes, near the edge of outland. There's a small group of maybe 10 spiders and a few infested root walkers on the outer edge. No adds to worry about and depending on how fast you kill them, a nice respawn. Definitely good to farm if you're doing the easy quests in that camp, plus you can sell any grays.

Comment by Bloodphoenix

If you're farming the silk Southeast of Auchindown, I actually suggest going after Deathskitter in between killing the widow spiders. Deathskitter, upon each kill, dropped the Netherweb Spider Silk. Deathskitter's fairly easy to kill at level 70, and as a Warlock with about 13k health, I took her down without needing to use any health restorative items.

Comment by Johnsom

On my high pop server Terokkar is always on farm becuase of this i decided to try Bm. The drop rate is pretty good but you will have to fight off more then just spiders(you cant lose aggro in here) on the other hand ive seen mages clear half the instance in one pull.

Comment by blckA

do note that while farming in terrokkar you also have a chance of getting dreadfang venom sacs, which could also be a source of income as it is used in the reputation conversion from scryer to aldor.

so if you are just farming spider silk as a money source than i'd say terokkar is way better than BM :)

Comment by xXxMaSoNxXx

i killed 50 dreadfang widow spiders...not one measly drop.

Comment by whhpssh

Yesterday: One drop per 5 or 6 kills.

Today: One drop per 20 kills. I did get 35 dreadfang venom sacs, though.

Comment by archaicstigma

There's always none in the AH on my server so it sells great xD

-AS

Comment by jaschmidt22

That was strange...I just killed 6 or 7 with no drops, then got 3 Netherweb out of the next 4 kills. Looks like it truly is random.

Comment by citroy

What your saying is completely ridicules, the statistical facts that WoWhead is based on isn't "what WoW rolls for you", its based on the percentage that a specific item will drop on a curtain mob. There has been an error in this system an as people has complained, the drop rate on this item is not as high as WoWhead suggests. Stop saying stuff like that. WoWhead isn't a place to suggest luck over statistical facts.

Comment by orloxgr

For those going to Black Moreas, the spiders and the rest of the trash mobs are not usual. They have around 9K hp and they hit at cloth for at least 500 dmg. So be carefull.

Comment by zanzibarr

Forget the Black Morass. As a mage, orloxgr is right; they have almost 10k health and hit around 500 on cloth. I can go to the Netherweb spider cove in Terokkar and farm them way faster. Just think it takes me 20 seconds to kill one spider in BM or it takes me 5 seconds to kill one spider in Terokkar. Not to mention less pauses for food and water and no adds that I don't care about (Crocs and stealthed panthers).

The drop rate may be a little higher in BM but productivity in Terokkar trumps it. I farmed 4 silks in 15 mins before going back to work this afternoon.

Terokkar wins hands down.

Comment by stevenstreet483

I wouldn't recommend Black Morass, too many other mobs that get in the way. Terrokar Forest gives approx 5 silk every 10min, and you just have to kill spiders, it's quite a bit easier I feel. BM has too many crocs and stealth hyenas that get in the way, it's very annoying.

Comment by femoral

The drop rate is much lower for the Dreadfang Widow now. Less than 7 percent. I cannot figure out why Blizzard would nerf this.

Comment by Gnowo

It seems like Blizzard has (un)intentionally lowered the droprate for this silk. One could only wonder and guess why they did so, but coming to think of it:

If they would lower the droprate, the price would go up more on most realms, making the 20slot bags more expensive. That way, their prices become a bit closer to the 22-slot bag bag which was added in patch 2.4.3

Comment by Sundried

drops rates in Terokkar are downright aweful. it is really easy just to walk into BM and grab a couple. watch out for those meanie crocodiles tho : ( they'll gang up on ya

Comment by Mikal

One thing that has not been mentioned as of yet is that if you are a leatherworker / skinner, Black Morass may be the better option due to the ability to not only collect the silk, but hides as well from both the panthers and the crocolisks. Additionally, there will be no other collectors there so you can reap all the rewards without someone else killing them as well.

With that in mind, it may in fact be more useful to visit Black Morass instead of Terrokar, but you must also account for the fact that the spiders in Terrokar drop venom sacs, whereas the ones in Black Morass do not, and that they are a little stronger then the Terrokar ones as well.

Comment by fahsky

As a prot paly, BM was easier for me to farm. I tried the Widows south of the Alli camp in Terrokar, but only got 2 in around 45 minutes of slow farming in my terrible Ret gear. After roughly the same amount of time in BM, I got 9. It's pretty easy to AoE, just watch what you're picking up, & remember the spider's poison -25% healing debuff affects Seal/Judgement of Light.

Comment by stonecow

Yeah really depends on what other professions you have.

If you do the Terokkar, and you happen to be an herbalist, you'll definitely run into Terocone, Dreaming Glory & Felweed. Terocone especially nice since those spiders near the Alliance town happen to be spawning among all those trees.

Not to mention if you are farming the spiders by the Alliance town in Terokkar, you can occasionally fly up to the elevated lake south of it to check if any Highland schools have spawned to fish for crawdad.

There are mining nodes that spawn near there too.

And lastly the Terokkar spiders drop the dreadfang sacs that people need for the quest to switch from Scryer to Aldor rep. These may or may not make money depending on if someone happens to be doing it at the time and buying them all up off ah.

Comment by Luciferums

The 30% seem pretty high in my eyes, since I killed about.. 30 spiders and got 1 single web..

Comment by xandfenionx

34/202 from Dreadfang Widows (16.83%)

Comment by Lushurm

In my experence id have to say Terokkar spiders are better than the BM spiders for a few reasons.

- Terokkar Spiders have less HP, and dont hit as hard as the ones in BM.- Theres almost no other mobs besides the spiders in Terokkar, the extra stuff in BM can get annoying.- The mobs are a lot closer together in Terokkar, the spiders in BM you have to run around and hunt for

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Comment by Jadenaer

Maybe I'm just cursed, but I tried the BM route and earned one silk, in maybe 10 minutes, had 5 silk from the spiders near the Allerian Stronghold. If anything, I'd say both are feasible locations. I found Terrokar to be easier as the spiders are closely packed and I could just DoT them all.

Comment by baygul

Just killed all the spiders south ofAllerian Stronghold, about 20 spiders for only 2 drop.

Comment by baygul

OK, now i get it. Start at Allerian Stronghold, work your way south along the eastern edge of the bone wastes, until you get to the southern edge, then back up to Allerian. You will kill about 100 spiders and get about 10 Netherweb per pass.

Comment by Echtigern

I don't know if it's was just my bad luck, but I needed 30 of these for my tailoring skill and I wasn't going to pay the bloated price they wanted in the AH so I decided to go farming. Well about 4.5 hours later and leveling unarmed combat from around 120 to 400 getting "? My Aunt Fannie's big ole butt, it's a good bit lower than 14%.

Comment by cephalio

I killed about 30 spiders (terokkar) and got 8 webs. did they increase the drop rate?

Comment by glandre

I just went through the netherweb ridge and killed about 120 spders and all i got was legs and sacs so dont know if the new patch did something to remove the drop. Let me know if im wrong.

Comment by MisterRik

Yeah, I'm convinced they lowered the drop rate, at least for the spiders in Terokkar. I used to be able to farm there and get it at least 50% of the time. Now that I'm lvl 80 and trying to make bags for my alts, I go there and kill 20 spiders and get one !@#$% silk. Piles and piles of Dreadfang Venom Sacs, though. Whatever the !@#% you use those for.

Comment by DanWildhammer

I'd much prefer Terrokar, as an Arcane mage it is safer, and you don't need to do the stupid CoT chain to get into BM

Comment by silvertears0585

I do not know if they have change te drop rate in Black Morass but it would seem so to me. After what seemed like way to long of runnimg around in there to find and kill all the spiders I ended up with 2 netherweb spider silk. So kind of said the hell with that and decided to try the spiders in Karazan. MUCH better!I would recomend finding a friend who can just sit in group with you so that you can go farm, or even do like I did and find someone in trade who was free to just sit in a group with me so I could make a raid to get in there and farm. If you lvl 80+ farming the trash in Karazan is easy. Though assuming you have the key or someone with it.If you can get in there though you are in luck. The first doorway to the right as you walk in there are 3 conected rooms with spiders, all nice and grouped up in 3's and 4's. So fast to wipe clean, and go back out and reset. It was taking me only 6-7 minutes to clear all the spiders and I was getting an avarage of 10-12 silk per 6 minute clear and a couple time even a few more silk droppe then that, and so not only way more silk then Black Morass, but much faster. In less then 30 minutes I had over 4 stacks. So I know for some getting into Kara might be an issue. But if you need to farm a lot of this, I think its worth the trouble to hit trade an find someone who can get you in, verses the annoying low drop rate elsewhere lol....but just my opinion since lucky for me I have the key. =)

Comment by Mikejuh

i have been doing black morass for myself today and i found i not bad either.When i did a full round i ended up with 10-11 netherweb spider silk.

just needed about 20 and with 2 rounds i got 21 of them.To me it seems the droprate is quite good.No idea of Kara, but then again i don't have a key (if it's still needed anyway).

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Comment by Xerc

Kara, for me, has been the best place. Kill the spiders in the first part of the instance, but do go on to the bats. Then when you're done, clear a few other areas and go back and get the spiders after the respawn. Works for me and I leave with bags of silk.

Comment by rawryer

Farmed 20 of those under 30 mins on my fire mage outside shatt/ allerian stronghold. Wasn't too bad on the drop rate, just fire blast a spider before you loot to save some downtime.

Comment by Diboah

No drop from Blackfang Tarantula at all in Black Morass. Heroic mode. Soloing at level 90.

Comment by urticina

Same result as Diboah. Level 90, heroic mode and zero drops for me.

Comment by Vangeliq

I ran Black Morass killing only spiders. Looted 4 Netherweb Spider Silk on 1 run of Normal mode. Looted 16 Netherweb Spider Silk on 1 run of Heroic mode. It did not take long running in a circular motion along mountain line and islands.

Comment by billy194

I wanted to point out a new location that I have found to be great for farming Netherweb Spider Silk. It is the raid zone Battle For Mount Hyjal! I got a great amount there. I was 2 or 3 manning it at most and drop rate seemed fantastic.

Comment by CruelIntent

Seriously the room to the right of the entrance in Kara should be the only place to farm these. If you are not farming there, you are farming these webs wrong. I just farmed this spot for only about 10 minutes and left with 48 of them.

Comment by Jiae

At 90, it's super easy to run into Hyjal, clear the place, and get a bunch of these. Kara might be better for pure farming since you can reset, but if you want a change of pace, or some cool transmog gear, give it a shot.

Comment by kyrha

Blackfang tarantulas don't drop anything anymore.

Comment by joay11

Updated for 5.4.2 12/10/13

Best place to farm: Karazan

As soon as you enter the instance, you'll open a door, immediately to the right there's an opening, go thru there. The 1st three rooms are spiders, kill the spiders, loot, run out of the instance and reset instance (don't kill any bosses in the instance). Don't bother with anything else in the instance, if you have to kill anything other than spiders, you're doing it wrong.

The spiders are literally right next to the instance door, the 3rd spider room is only about 80 yards from the main instance entrance. Each run will net you (no pun) about 7 to 10 Netherweb spider silk's. It's so fast, once I got in a groove, it took me literally 1 minute and 26 seconds (as a level 90 iLvL 535 Warlock) to enter the instance, AoE the spider mobs, loot, and be back outside of the instance. You could loot all the spiders in Karazan 5 times in less than 10 minutes real time.

Note: 5 runs yielded 44 Netherwebs and 12 BoE greens. (You can only enter 5 instances per hour max as a Blizzard limit; so just log out, do something on an alt and come back later)

Comment by GeodesicDragon

Even in Legion, Kharazan is still the place to go for these. I needed some to make Imbued Netherweave Bags for selling on the AH, but the price of this stuff on my server (Shadowsong/Aszune EU) was insane; nearly 40 gold a piece. So, off I went to Kharazan.

I got 100 in about 30 minutes, as well as a load of vendor trash and greens I could Disenchant into the Arcane Dust I needed for the cloth.

Ignore what people are saying about Black Morass or Terrokar Forest; for Netherweb Spider Silk, Kharazan is your friend.

PROS

Nobody to steal your kills.

Short and sweet; takes about 5 minutes (if that).

Plenty of opportunities for greens and vendor trash.

You get to kill lots of disgusting, eight legged cretins.

The potential for profit is strong too!

CONS

Not all the spiders drop it; some don't drop loot at all.

Instance restriction (I think; I'm pretty sure I did it more than five times in the half hour I was there).