I hadn't seen this discussed here before. Has anyone tried it? It is a .22 collapsing rifle that weight 15.5 ounces. Seems pretty interesting, but I was wondering if anyone had tried one. This plus 300 rounds of .22 would give you food for a long time for pretty little weight. You wouldn't have to shoot bunnies with your M1A SOCOM.

they aren't ever going to be built in the numbers that a 10/22 is, so there aren't any price breaks in volume work, so that also adds to the price.

Looking at it (in general) it apears that it is slightly high, but it is an initial release price, that may or may not alter due to customer demand etc. I'd think you should be able to market one for around $100 less.

But then again, you are paying something for the cool factor and the unique product that answers a specific need.

But then again, you are paying something for the cool factor and the unique product that answers a specific need.

Eh, its a niche product, take a good look, it won't be around long. There are a lot of other guns that may be slightly heavier, larger, etc, that fill the same niche (or better) for ~$100 less.You can still find a plethoria of "Western Auto", "Revelation", "Sears", etc. single shots that will do 90% of what this gun will do for $350 less.

This is an interesting and useful option for the person going for the absolute lightest-weight option possible.

This thing isn't any "more" of a single shot than the Springfield (the shotgun isn't a follow-up .22), and plenty of people swear by those. It doesn't have a trigger guard, but a lot of people have said they wish the Springfield DIDN'T have one, so it could fold smaller (like the original).

Personally, I'm more likely to spend $125 for a Henry than $425 for this thing, but if you're going for a UL setup, this is probably the way to go, IMHO.

I bought a feather light Cricket rifle that doesn't weigh much more than that. It's great. Even though I usually carry a pistol for SD, I can alway throw the cricket on my pack as a game getter.

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A bit pricey for me and I was surprised that for a rifle costing this much they used a dovetail scope mount rather than a Weaver type. The dovetail mounts have never been great at holding firm.

As far as the kid killing a mountain lion with one...I am willing to bet there is a much larger caliber hole in that cat as well.

More likely a pack of hounds baying around the base of the tree where the kid shot him.

A .22LR will kill a big cat, just not in a great hurry. With dogs you don't have to worry about the cat coming down from the tree so you can take your time. I knew a professional guide in Arizona back in the early '80s who preferred using 9mm FMJ for mountain lions. Killed just fine with minimal damage to the hide. Cats are not that hard to kill (nothing like a bear).

Yeah, I think the weight would be the main draw. Less than a pound for the 'pak-rifle', and 3.5 pounds for the papoose. They are all compromises in one way or another. Really, I think the Kel-Tek .22mag pistol is better than both, assuming it is accurate, since it is also less than a pound and is semi-auto.

A bit pricey for me and I was surprised that for a rifle costing this much they used a dovetail scope mount rather than a Weaver type. The dovetail mounts have never been great at holding firm.

As far as the kid killing a mountain lion with one...I am willing to bet there is a much larger caliber hole in that cat as well.

More likely a pack of hounds baying around the base of the tree where the kid shot him.

A .22LR will kill a big cat, just not in a great hurry. With dogs you don't have to worry about the cat coming down from the tree so you can take your time. I knew a professional guide in Arizona back in the early '80s who preferred using 9mm FMJ for mountain lions. Killed just fine with minimal damage to the hide. Cats are not that hard to kill (nothing like a bear).

Yeah. I wouldn't hunt a mountain lion with a 22lr,yet alone send my 8 year out with one to do it.