Seriously though, can I just add that while I’d rather have the box design, just cause its different from anything else I have, I feel like that would be a lot more expensive to build. So my vote may change depending on final price, cause it may not be worth the price difference to me.

Seriously though, can I just add that while I’d rather have the box design, just cause its different from anything else I have, I feel like that would be a lot more expensive to build. So my vote may change depending on final price, cause it may not be worth the price difference to me.

I want both, the plunger style with a normal single emitter setup would be great.

I would then love to do the box style with a multi emitter setup since it could handle the heat. Something like a quad or more xhp70 / xhp35 setup with a ~200mm total reflector size would be great. Put a fan on the back to handle the heat.

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Personally I dont think we should choose now. There are only 2 (basic) designs.

Both designs has some pro’s and con’s.
The design can impact the amount of cell you need to use. (more options with box design)
Weight, overall dimensions. Center of gravity plays an importend roll. (with box design easier)

So, I think we should have some more designs of the traditional style and the box style before we can choose.

I like Djozz’s sketch – but I think it’s more useful with a high output flooder where casing get’s hot and a lot of battery capacity is needed. Being a thrower I believe its difficult to point it exactly to a target, and often I’d have to hold it uncomfortably high to shine over bushes or other obstacles.

Seriously though, can I just add that while I’d rather have the box design, just cause its different from anything else I have, I feel like that would be a lot more expensive to build. So my vote may change depending on final price, cause it may not be worth the price difference to me.

This was my vote in the other thread too

This shape is a staple of mega throwers through movies, would be cool to have one that didn’t cost nearly as much.

I like Djozz’s sketch – but I think it’s more useful with a high output flooder where casing get’s hot and a lot of battery capacity is needed. Being a thrower I believe its difficult to point it exactly to a target, and often I’d have to hold it uncomfortably high to shine over bushes or other obstacles.

I’m working on a simple design based on djozz his design. But it isn’t easy.
Also this traditional design is easier to machine than a box style light (I think that’s the reason they are from plastic). A box style will be to expensive I think.

I’m working on a simple design based on djozz his design. But it isn’t easy.
Also this traditional design is easier to machine than a box style light (I think that’s the reason they are from plastic). A box style will be to expensive I think.

Yes, his is much better then mine.

This is a good point as well on the cost issue with the box style, it would cost more.

Although those talking maxabeam style light, be aware that reaching those numbers would need to use an HID like the maxabeam I have a feeling, that would raise the price even more and it would have no modes. It would be great fun but I doubt there is enoguh demand on BLF for a $200 light to justify making it. Maybe on CPF.

Now a multiemitter setup would be a lot cheaper then the HID but it would also not throw as far.

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I like Djozz’s sketch – but I think it’s more useful with a high output flooder where casing get’s hot and a lot of battery capacity is needed. Being a thrower I believe its difficult to point it exactly to a target, and often I’d have to hold it uncomfortably high to shine over bushes or other obstacles.

This.

you could just hold it with the handle pointing down or sideways, so no arkward hand position going on

I like Djozz’s sketch – but I think it’s more useful with a high output flooder where casing get’s hot and a lot of battery capacity is needed. Being a thrower I believe its difficult to point it exactly to a target, and often I’d have to hold it uncomfortably high to shine over bushes or other obstacles.

This.

you could just hold it with the handle pointing down or sideways, so no arkward hand position going on

Box all the way, there are tons of plunger lights out there and very few box style. With the box style the heat sink can be as large as you want it and battery capacity can be 4, 6, 8, 12, or whatever we decide. Plenty of room to do what you want and you are not limited to the constraints of a tube.

Box all the way, there are tons of plunger lights out there and very few box style. With the box style the heat sink can be as large as you want it and battery capacity can be 4, 6, 8, 12, or whatever we decide. Plenty of room to do what you want and you are not limited to the constraints of a tube.

+1 here! Also, even with a 4-cell tube, there is a limit to how large a diameter head would look decent. In the original thread, someone mentioned a 160mm reflector (or was it a lens?). I think that would look great in a box style light, but dorky in a plunger style, even with a 4-cell tube.

But, just off the top of my head, here’s an idea. How about a dual-tube “plunger” style? Make each tube two cells wide and two cells long, and set them a couple inches apart (inch or so off center each way), behind a huge head, housing a 160mm reflector/lens. The tubes would be wired 4S, but parallel to each other, so that only one tube would have to be filled for the light to work. Filling both would give you more run time. The tubes would be easy to grasp, and the light would have a more balanced look and feel (when loaded). The tubes might need to be connected at the back with a plate, so they couldn’t be pulled apart like a wishbone! This light would have almost all the benefits of both plunger and box style lights. Yet it would be totally unique and very effective. I’d expect a price point around $150 – $200 list, but $100 for the GB.

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Well, there’d have to be some work below the shelf if XHP-35 is used. Otherwise, you’d only get 2S4P from the tubes. It needs to be 4S voltage.

We designed an adjustable tailcap for the Q8 already that takes care of that, we are just not sure if thorfire used it. With that taipcap PCB in place it would be whatever we want.

Although it actually would need some work at the tailcap come to think of it as the cells have to be inserted from the rear. That in unless we decided to go with cell carriers instead. This is the easiest option for sure and would allow for the widest possible range of mods. Everything from 1S to 8s could be done with them if you had a driver to use it.

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