quicksilver is that how u got our 15k post by posting non helpful replys? back in the day they use to post links to nav software on the frontpage. anyone?

Terry Kennedy

09-04-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by badwhip
(Post 841561)

back in the day they use to post links to nav software on the frontpage. anyone?

I think you're confusing the operating software with the map disc. The software (update disc) can be purchased at any BMW dealer for around US $8.90 or less (part number 01-59-0-141-891).

If you're on friendly terms with your BMW Service Advisor, you can probably get it loaded for free if your car is in the shop for something else.

The map data is a completely different situation - BMW and the map manufacturer both charge a substantial price for the map discs (US $199). The dealers aren't giving away current maps - the closest you may get is an out-of-date disc from a car they took as a trade-in.

You should purchase a set of genuine map discs - a number of the dealers that advertise in the back of Roundel, etc. offer parts discounts of 25% or more. Once you have a legitimate set of maps, you can probably find the instructions to add additional POI's here, or elsewhere on the net.

Note that the MK IV computer is very tempermental when it comes to DVD media (that's why the genuine maps are now on 2 single-layer DVDs instead of one dual-layer). So your copies may or may not work, depending on your particular MK IV drive, as well as how you burned them. It is nearly impossible to find 1X (only) DVD-R media and a 1X (only) burner these days, which seems to produce the best results. [I used to put a backup copy in the MK IV and keep the original in the glove box, since I've had discs damaged from the potholes around here. But copies no longer work reliably for me, so I use the original disc now.]

ayy itss daveee

09-06-2011 11:37 PM

If I walk into the dealer and buy the 2011 disc, will it have the speed cams on it already or was that a mod someone added?

Terry Kennedy

09-06-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ayy itss daveee
(Post 842250)

If I walk into the dealer and buy the 2011 disc, will it have the speed cams on it already or was that a mod someone added?

That's a mod that someone made by altering the POI database on the map disc. TeleAtlas aparently has a speed camera POI category (TomToms have one) but it isn't part of the data they provide on BMW map discs.

ayy itss daveee

09-07-2011 12:10 AM

I see...

So how do I get the 2011 disc with the speed/red light cams added? I know nothing about modding software or anything of the sort...

Is there a place to download or purchase it on the net? If it's against forum rules to post publicly feel free to PM..

Terry Kennedy

09-07-2011 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ayy itss daveee
(Post 842255)

So how do I get the 2011 disc with the speed/red light cams added? I know nothing about modding software or anything of the sort...

There are (I believe) a number of tutorials in the forum that discuss it, as well as sometimes providing pre-built navigation computer OS discs to load it from.

For modifying the maps, you can either do it yourself with software you can find discussed here, or you have have one of the commercial suppliers sell you a ready-to-go map disc. If you have a legitimately-purchased copy of the current year's maps, then that may stand as an affirmative defense if BMW or TeleAtlas ever decided to sue you for pirating their property (the maps), since you already own the genuine article.

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Is there a place to download or purchase it on the net? If it's against forum rules to post publicly feel free to PM..

A web post or query for maps with POIs added, etc. in one of the more frontier-like areas of the Internet may get you contact information for someone who can supply you with an out-of-the-box plug-and-play solution, along with references from users here who can agree or deny the accuracy and quality of the info, as well as how the user interface design works.

There should be at least pointers here to some of it. In a cursory glance, I note two projects hosted here - POISoN, and Pimp My Nav.

Commercial projects telling people how to copy "borrowed" maps to produce complete map discs aren't very welcome here. Nor are sellers on places like eBay who say that they have 100%-legit discs with speed traps, speed cameras, etc. all prepared on the map disc. for your simple exchange of cash for map discs. The discs you get back may have been modified in some other way which might not matter, except that a panic-mode "Where's the nearest Police Station" could redirect you to the closese state Fish & Game Warden station. If you decide to purchase a packaged system from one of those guys, I'd ask if they were using genuine BMW/TeleAtlas discs (and from what year), and how the can be reached in the event you aren't satisfied with the product abd wish to return the item.

That's one of the reasons that there are some DIY products available - they assume you already bought the real map discs, possibly support the running of this forum, etc. And the people who wrote those tools are often here to provide help to newcomers.

The companies selling pre-modified maps are trying to grab a lot of cash in a short time and then vanish. I have no experience with them, but one company is selling the software update disc (only needs to be run once) along with both the east coast and west coast map DVDs for $49.99. At that price, there's no valid sublicense of the $199.99 map data between TeleAtlas and you, which is why I suggest buying the real maps, either at a BMW dealer (possible parts discount, possibly sales tax) or from TeleAtlas directly ($199.99, no discount, possibly sales tax) amd then making backup copies of these discs and experiment on the copies.

I had a good deal more to say, but the sleeping pills make me look like a chimp at a typewriter, and the quality of the chimp's writing is above mine.