The real question we've already been discussing is whether or not he calls it a career in the offseason now that he will get the benefits.

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ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Jahvid Best's season has ended before it began.

The Detroit Lions announced Friday that Best would stay on the physically unable to perform list for the year.

Lions general manager Martin Mayhew says medical experts have recommended Best not return to the field this season. Mayhew says it's a disappointing decision, but one that is in Best's long-term best interest.

Best hasn't played in more than a year because of concussion problems.

Detroit drafted Best in the first round in 2010, when he accounted for 1,000-plus yards and six touchdowns. Best was limited to six games last season after having what he said was the third concussion of his football career.

So, the standard has been set. 2 concussions in the NFL and your done. I fully expect the NFL will stick to this standard when Aaron Rogers has 1 more concussion. Or will they set a different standard for star players, and players on teams other, than the Lions.

This is nothing more than political posturing. It's designed to make Best, and anyone else, sue the NFL so they can resume their careers. Once they sue the NFL, they will be forced to say, under oath, that there is nothing wrong with them so that later in life, when they try to sue the NFL over concussions, there is court documents proving they said they were fine.

Best's career is not over. It, is just being delayed. I bet he will be back next year. Who knows, maybe the 2 year layoff will be exactly what he needed.

November 3rd, 2012, 11:37 am

m2karateman

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

It's time to end this ridiculousness and cut this man. Sorry, but his playing a full NFL career just wasn't in the cards. No reason for the Lions to continue paying him. Business is business. Time to move on. Even if he's cleared to play, there's no way I would want this team to put him on the field. Let some other GM live with that guilt.

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November 3rd, 2012, 11:58 am

Growler

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

Billy--interesting perspective regarding a player's having to file a lawsuit and declare himself fit to play. It's too bad they can't find a way to just have players sign an exculpatory document absolving the NFL of all liability.

November 3rd, 2012, 4:50 pm

wjb21ndtown

Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

BillySims wrote:

So, the standard has been set. 2 concussions in the NFL and your done. I fully expect the NFL will stick to this standard when Aaron Rogers has 1 more concussion. Or will they set a different standard for star players, and players on teams other, than the Lions.

This is nothing more than political posturing. It's designed to make Best, and anyone else, sue the NFL so they can resume their careers. Once they sue the NFL, they will be forced to say, under oath, that there is nothing wrong with them so that later in life, when they try to sue the NFL over concussions, there is court documents proving they said they were fine.

Best's career is not over. It, is just being delayed. I bet he will be back next year. Who knows, maybe the 2 year layoff will be exactly what he needed.

It's not a number of concussions standard, it seems to be much more of a severity of concussion standard. Best was still experiencing concussion symptoms weeks after his hit. That's crazy.

November 3rd, 2012, 4:58 pm

Blueskies

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

Also, it isn't just two.

Best had concussions in college and IIRC high school as well. The dude has probably had half a dozen. That's why he fell the Lions later in the first -- concussion concerns. The Lions took a gamble and they lost. It happens. I won't fault the Lions for trying. The Ravens took a similar gamble when they drafted Suggs, and it worked out in their favor. Oh well.

November 3rd, 2012, 7:14 pm

thelomasbrowns

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

Growler wrote:

Billy--interesting perspective regarding a player's having to file a lawsuit and declare himself fit to play. It's too bad they can't find a way to just have players sign an exculpatory document absolving the NFL of all liability.

I could be wrong, but I think that's a big part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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Best had concussions in college and IIRC high school as well. The dude has probably had half a dozen. That's why he fell the Lions later in the first -- concussion concerns. The Lions took a gamble and they lost. It happens. I won't fault the Lions for trying. The Ravens took a similar gamble when they drafted Suggs, and it worked out in their favor. Oh well.

The NFL is not Liable for any concussions a player sustains in college.

November 3rd, 2012, 11:07 pm

The Legend

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

BillySims wrote:

So, the standard has been set. 2 concussions in the NFL and your done. I fully expect the NFL will stick to this standard when Aaron Rogers has 1 more concussion. Or will they set a different standard for star players, and players on teams other, than the Lions.

This is nothing more than political posturing. It's designed to make Best, and anyone else, sue the NFL so they can resume their careers. Once they sue the NFL, they will be forced to say, under oath, that there is nothing wrong with them so that later in life, when they try to sue the NFL over concussions, there is court documents proving they said they were fine.

Best's career is not over. It, is just being delayed. I bet he will be back next year. Who knows, maybe the 2 year layoff will be exactly what he needed.

This assumes that Best is willing to return knowing that he s at an increased risk for another concussion.

November 4th, 2012, 1:19 am

m2karateman

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

You guys are missing one important point. Why should the Lions carry Best on their roster, paying him a pretty good sum of change, knowing that he's at a high risk of being hurt yet again, when they can find someone else to do the same job, likely for less money, and without the high likelihood of getting hurt in that fashion? Answer: they shouldn't.

It would be foolish of the Lions to keep Best. It's time for them to move past this. Whether or not Best retires is up to him. He's better off if he did. But the team comes first, not the player. Best does not have that unique of a skillset that he can't be replaced. He is not the Calvin Johnson or Tom Brady of the running back world, where his abilities are just not found in most drafts. His only redeeming asset is his speed. And there are ALWAYS really fast guys available at the RB position in the draft, and typically not in the first round.

This era is over.

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You guys are missing one important point. Why should the Lions carry Best on their roster, paying him a pretty good sum of change, knowing that he's at a high risk of being hurt yet again, when they can find someone else to do the same job, likely for less money, and without the high likelihood of getting hurt in that fashion? Answer: they shouldn't.

It would be foolish of the Lions to keep Best. It's time for them to move past this. Whether or not Best retires is up to him. He's better off if he did. But the team comes first, not the player. Best does not have that unique of a skillset that he can't be replaced. He is not the Calvin Johnson or Tom Brady of the running back world, where his abilities are just not found in most drafts. His only redeeming asset is his speed. And there are ALWAYS really fast guys available at the RB position in the draft, and typically not in the first round.

This era is over.

UMMMM. He was on the roster for the first game right? So, his full salary this season is fully guaranteed. So, it doesn't mean squat, financially, for the Lions to keep him around until the last cuts next season. And make a final decision then.

November 5th, 2012, 10:47 pm

The Legend

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

BillySims wrote:

m2karateman wrote:

You guys are missing one important point. Why should the Lions carry Best on their roster, paying him a pretty good sum of change, knowing that he's at a high risk of being hurt yet again, when they can find someone else to do the same job, likely for less money, and without the high likelihood of getting hurt in that fashion? Answer: they shouldn't.

It would be foolish of the Lions to keep Best. It's time for them to move past this. Whether or not Best retires is up to him. He's better off if he did. But the team comes first, not the player. Best does not have that unique of a skillset that he can't be replaced. He is not the Calvin Johnson or Tom Brady of the running back world, where his abilities are just not found in most drafts. His only redeeming asset is his speed. And there are ALWAYS really fast guys available at the RB position in the draft, and typically not in the first round.

This era is over.

UMMMM. He was on the roster for the first game right? So, his full salary this season is fully guaranteed. So, it doesn't mean squat, financially, for the Lions to keep him around until the last cuts next season. And make a final decision then.

exactly

November 6th, 2012, 12:59 am

Blueskies

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

BillySims wrote:

Blueskies wrote:

Also, it isn't just two.

Best had concussions in college and IIRC high school as well. The dude has probably had half a dozen. That's why he fell the Lions later in the first -- concussion concerns. The Lions took a gamble and they lost. It happens. I won't fault the Lions for trying. The Ravens took a similar gamble when they drafted Suggs, and it worked out in their favor. Oh well.

The NFL is not Liable for any concussions a player sustains in college.

From what I've read, concussions get progressively worse the more you have. So if Best had many prior to the NFL, the ones he did have in the NFL would be worse. Thus your Aaron Rodgers comparison isn't really valid.

November 6th, 2012, 1:02 am

m2karateman

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

BillySims wrote:

m2karateman wrote:

You guys are missing one important point. Why should the Lions carry Best on their roster, paying him a pretty good sum of change, knowing that he's at a high risk of being hurt yet again, when they can find someone else to do the same job, likely for less money, and without the high likelihood of getting hurt in that fashion? Answer: they shouldn't.

It would be foolish of the Lions to keep Best. It's time for them to move past this. Whether or not Best retires is up to him. He's better off if he did. But the team comes first, not the player. Best does not have that unique of a skillset that he can't be replaced. He is not the Calvin Johnson or Tom Brady of the running back world, where his abilities are just not found in most drafts. His only redeeming asset is his speed. And there are ALWAYS really fast guys available at the RB position in the draft, and typically not in the first round.

This era is over.

UMMMM. He was on the roster for the first game right? So, his full salary this season is fully guaranteed. So, it doesn't mean squat, financially, for the Lions to keep him around until the last cuts next season. And make a final decision then.

Don't you follow conversations? It was about him coming back NEXT season, not this season.

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November 6th, 2012, 9:12 am

conversion02

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Re: Jahvid Best Done for Season (no suprise)

Speaking of concussions...Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick all left the games and didn't return due to concussions. Additionally, Quincey black was sent to the hospital for a h2h hit (and concussion) and our very own Cliff Avril went out with a concussion.