1/17 AM thru 1-18 PM - Double forfeit series Nhtsteven's "Deadball rebellion" and italyprof's "Northern New Jersey Yankees" both get four losses for this series. We'll see how Admin deals with this, I've done it in the past, but their support staff isn't the same quality as it was 3 years ago. (Because of later issues with owner Nhsteven, we will just let this series sit as played).

1/18 PM2 and 1/19 AM - Nhsteven "Deadball Rebellion" forfeits to Sh1t you not Sgsmith's team... .No games impacted, but 2nd series violation for Nhtsteven

nhsteven's post following the 1/18 PM game (following 3 straight games where he broke the 98% player rule including starting the same pitcher 3 games in a row and the same fatigues players in his lineup):

01/18 14:15
nhsteven
Surrendered 16 HRs in give up game

My responses:
01/19 00:07
frazzman80
I bet that the position players you sat are at 100% since you played Patterson at 58, Valo at 70 and Westlake at 72 in the AM game, then Patterson at 43 and Westlake at 61 in the PM game. That's crap to tank 3 games just to win more later.

01/19 00:04
frazzman80
This was after starting the same pitcher (Reith) 3 games in a row at 100%, then 10% and 11%. Seriuosly? I see this as a way of circumventing the rules. Forfeits don't hurt you if you lose anyway, and this was blatently breaking the rules.

01/18 23:59
frazzman80
You gave up 54 runs and started a pitcher at 11%...forfeits aren't enough for crap like that.

01/18 23:58
frazzman80
I think everyone should be making a reasonable effort to win games and not "give up".

01/18 23:57
frazzman80
Aren't "give up" games part of the fatigue stretegy this league is trying to stop? Last I checked, the "play scrubs" "give up" tactic was part of the fatigue strategy. As is the "give up a ton of runs so I fatigue my oppoent" portion of it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that breaks the "Spirit of the Rules" part biglenr mentioned. I'm sure throwing a scrub at 100% would be borderline acceptable as a way to avoid fatigue, but to throw a scrub below that to avoid fatigue is clearly (in my mind) the very thing this league is trying to stop. That IS the whole point of the fatigue strategy, controlling your losses by resting your starters in games you intend (or can afford) to lose anyway.

Posted by just4me on 1/19/2013 12:38:00 AM (view original):Yeah, I'm pretty sure that breaks the "Spirit of the Rules" part biglenr mentioned. I'm sure throwing a scrub at 100% would be borderline acceptable as a way to avoid fatigue, but to throw a scrub below that to avoid fatigue is clearly (in my mind) the very thing this league is trying to stop. That IS the whole point of the fatigue strategy, controlling your losses by resting your starters in games you intend (or can afford) to lose anyway.

Couldn't agree more. My thought is that this should be looked at as multiple violations instead of just 1 series.