The thing is, Doc is a guy who adjusts to the players. The problem (and benefit) with Doc is that he is excessively patient. He has very little sense of urgency when it comes to working players in. He believes in letting things slowly evolve, and having the players and the system meet in the middle.

That is what we are seeing right now.

I still believe Doc prefers mediocre vets to rookies. It didn't take most of us long to realize Sully needed big minutes( as long as he could stay out of foul trouble). Took Doc about 3 months. Which goes back to your slowly evolving point.

I think they are taking it slow with him. He looked tired later in the game, with his shot, which isn't surprising, and they are still trying not to put too much stress on his shoulders too quickly. I think you will see a slow buildup of his minutes over the next month or so.

I think they are taking it slow with him. He looked tired later in the game, with his shot, which isn't surprising, and they are still trying not to put too much stress on his shoulders too quickly. I think you will see a slow buildup of his minutes over the next month or so.

I think they are taking it slow with him. He looked tired later in the game, with his shot, which isn't surprising, and they are still trying not to put too much stress on his shoulders too quickly. I think you will see a slow buildup of his minutes over the next month or so.

This. AB was front-rimming everything yesterday.

Fair enough, every time AB shoots i cringe. Still, that defense is filthy.

The thing is, Doc is a guy who adjusts to the players. The problem (and benefit) with Doc is that he is excessively patient. He has very little sense of urgency when it comes to working players in. He believes in letting things slowly evolve, and having the players and the system meet in the middle.

That is what we are seeing right now.

I still believe Doc prefers mediocre vets to rookies. It didn't take most of us long to realize Sully needed big minutes( as long as he could stay out of foul trouble). Took Doc about 3 months. Which goes back to your slowly evolving point.

The thing is, Doc is a guy who adjusts to the players. The problem (and benefit) with Doc is that he is excessively patient. He has very little sense of urgency when it comes to working players in. He believes in letting things slowly evolve, and having the players and the system meet in the middle.

That is what we are seeing right now.

Nailed it here.

Doc is the ultimate player coach. He is almost excessively patient with players. It's why they love him but it can be frustrating at times.

I think they are taking it slow with him. He looked tired later in the game, with his shot, which isn't surprising, and they are still trying not to put too much stress on his shoulders too quickly. I think you will see a slow buildup of his minutes over the next month or so.

This. AB was front-rimming everything yesterday.

Fair enough, every time AB shoots i cringe. Still, that defense is filthy.

It'll get there. Started slow last year too but his shooting numbers by the end of the season were good.

Fair enough, every time AB shoots i cringe. Still, that defense is filthy.

I think that if the game was closer, and we needed defensive stops, AB would go back out there. But playing tired is how injuries happen, and we didn't need the badger after recovering from that silly 17-2 run.

In the Triangle, the center is often asked to come up to the elbow and act as a passer + screener / facilitator for the offense. As Luc Longley and Bill Cartwright did in Chicago and Pau Gasol did in LA years later. Phil Jackson removed many of those sequences from the Lakers offense and instead allowed Shaq to remain rooted to the low post to better take advantage of Shaq's specific strengths and weaknesses.

Tex Winters was very unhappy with this. Didn't want the integrity of the offense altered to suit a single player no matter who that player was. Phil Jackson did it anyway and it helped lead the Lakers to 3 Championships.

I think they are taking it slow with him. He looked tired later in the game, with his shot, which isn't surprising, and they are still trying not to put too much stress on his shoulders too quickly. I think you will see a slow buildup of his minutes over the next month or so.

This. AB was front-rimming everything yesterday.

Fair enough, every time AB shoots i cringe. Still, that defense is filthy.

Right, but it was more about preservation of a guy returning from injury and still getting in game shape, than punishing him for not being able to shoot.

The shooting was just a signal that he needed to rest a bit, as he has pushed pretty hard after being out for so long. Its just taking the longview, and trying to avoid burning him out, or getting him hurt again.

The thing is, Doc is a guy who adjusts to the players. The problem (and benefit) with Doc is that he is excessively patient. He has very little sense of urgency when it comes to working players in. He believes in letting things slowly evolve, and having the players and the system meet in the middle.

That is what we are seeing right now.

This was my exact thought watching the Suns game last night. I was asking myself how can Doc be so patient? And how can he not change plays and the system to fit players and get more immediate results than what he is getting. But hey, if it works for us, then it is what it is.

In the Triangle, the center is often asked to come up to the elbow and act as a passer + screener / facilitator for the offense. As Luc Longley and Bill Cartwright did in Chicago and Pau Gasol did in LA years later. Phil Jackson removed many of those sequences from the Lakers offense and instead allowed Shaq to remain rooted to the low post to better take advantage of Shaq's specific strengths and weaknesses.

Tex Winters was very unhappy with this. Didn't want the integrity of the offense altered to suit a single player no matter who that player was. Phil Jackson did it anyway and it helped lead the Lakers to 3 Championships.

Deciding to take advantage of Shaq's strengths was no great feat. Any amatuer could figure that out (except, apparently Tex Winter).

Blending player's personalities and egos was always Jacksons' biggest strength. Doc is very similar in this regard.

I doubt Doc wouldn't have just as many titles as Phil if he had MJ, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe.

Fair enough, every time AB shoots i cringe. Still, that defense is filthy.

Not sure why you would cringe. His shooting form is pretty sweet. I watch Shawn Marion, Kevin Martin and Joakim Noah take shots and I cringe. I watch Shaq and DH12 and some others take free throws, and I cringe. But Bradley, never. I just wait for them to drop because the form looks extremely good.

He is definitely rusty and not in the type of NBA shape he would like to be at his peak, so his shot is off. But if anything, last year proved when he is comfortable and not injured, his shot and shot efficiency is way above average.