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I am trying to place William Lamar, born 1816 in Breckenridge, KY. He was the eldest son of Mareen Tyler Lamar, b. 1794 and the grandson of William Bishop Lamar, b. 1745. I am trying to find out if William Lamar married Elizabeth Eleanor Blake Aug 27, 1835, probably in Kentucky.
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Peggy,
I wanted to thank you again for your help-I need to use all you posted. I have some new information that makes me think now that George B. BURTON is the son of George Birch BURTON and Sarah "Sallie" LATHRAM. I am tentatively claiming him and V.B. Never thought I would find a connection, but I have been lovingly provided with pics of pages from the WHITTINGHILL Family History from "God's Angel" (book also written, coincedently, by a Burton/COOK descendant) and it mentions another boy (I didn't know his name) named George R. b. 1821. Unless someone shows me another man, I am thinking the R. is a typo and he would not be listed in George Birch's will due to his death. Wife Mary Jane PATE SMITH not listed due to remarriage. Theory, I guess at this point. Oh, for others out there who peruse the web, the book also says that Sarah LATHRAM was from Missouri.
Peggy, you have posted many items online that helped me. I really can't thank you enough.
Deborah Hull
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Hi,
I've just learned from the 1860 census: PHILO, age 16 living in Henderson, Ky. MARY(my 'Granny'),age 10 and DILLUS living with their half brother J. Bristow in Owensboro.
EDWARD was in Hardinsburg with his latest wife and sons.
If anyone has any info regarding where/why about the family, please share. I'd appreciate info on the Sample family.
My Mom will be 100 in January. She enjoys learning of her GGrandparents. Her father sang at Mary Barbee Ingram's funeral.
Thanks,
Wilma
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Hi all....
Quick update on the website. Last week the "R" surname pages were updated and I'm working slowly on the "S" page to get it current.
I owe a deep debt of gratitude to Bob McManaway as this past week he took on the Trent-Dowell Obits and Meade County Messenger obits that I'd accumulated from Jan. - Oct., 2008. He was able to copy/paste from my master file and submit them individually. There are now approximately 108 obits in the Obit Section under the "2008" heading of Trent-Dowel Funeral Home. In addition to that, he did the 50 obits that I've been able to gather from the Meade County Messenger website thus far for this year. Hopefully those will be linked up and available later on today. Many, MANY, thanks Bob!
Y'all have a Happy Thanksgiving!! And Happy Hunting!!
Dana
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diana-I would be interested in any info that you have on Benney and Anderson (and any others) I also have a little info on Artilda , the wife of Anderson. I have them as sons of William and Vinie Davison (William was the son of Ancel Davison and unk Nevitt-- I would like to compare facts...debbie dcorrigan54(a)yahoo.com
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Thank you so much for this info. I have finally back to this project and have tracked down a Paul Jr. Diana
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I found the Rankin/Burnett post interesting. My gggrandfather was William
Rankin Baum. He had a daughter named Viola. I wonder if William Rankin
Baum's mother was a member of the Rankin family? I have her name as Todd,
but she could have been married prior to marrying George Baum in 1828.
William Rankin Baum was born in Ohio in 1829, the family later moved to
Spencer County, Indiana, where George and Susanna both died. William Rankin
moved to Breck. County is buried there in Frank DeJarnette Cemetery #4. Any
help with this would be appreciated.
Judi

Yea, thanks for all the great history info. Patrick OBryan
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From: James Dunavan<mailto:jeep71@att.net>
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Subject: [MDSTMARY] MD to KY migration - a KS leg
How about a little change of pace? Interested in some trivia?
This is one of those long posts. It’s been e-ons since I’ve posted the list, so I hope you will bare with it. Perhaps there may be some appeal in this post for those that have followed their Marylandancestors out of Kentucky.
So here it goes…
In 1834 Joseph Jarboe, Jr [ (1790c -1867) b. Fredrick Co. Md] a native of Bardstown, KYrelocated his family to the French Colony of Westport Landing on the Missouri River. (Joseph married Lydia Ann Clements, daughter of William H. Clements
and Winifred Hardy of St. Mary's County, Md.) Joseph established the Jarboe line in that area and was engaged as merchant, and holder of a general store until his death. He suffered that death by the smoking of too many cigars, according to Jarboe's 2nd wife Cordelia A. Wilson (b. 1819 in MD). Coridelia' s first husband was Charles W. Jarboe (1815-1850) of Baltimore, Md.
As it was, Westportwas a jumping off point (west of St. Louis) for pioneers on their travels west into Indian Territoryand in 1834 was a community of 250 souls. It wasn't until May of 1839 that Westportwas referred to as the town "Kansas". And in time referred to as Kansas City, on both sides of the Missouri River. Jarboe and children establish themselves as civic leaders, serving in various positions in city government. The family prospered - and to this day, the Jarboe surname and descendant still survive.
As it went...
Along about 1843, Chief White Hair of the Osage tribe (Sioux sect) which inhabited the NeoshoRiverValley (S.E. corner of KS) asked the US Senate to send blackrobes to setup schools among Osage. White Hair was a one time student of the Jesuits. The request was made law (treaty) and the first white settlers headed for the Neosho, all catholic religious, who began their migration to Indian Territory.
Things didn’t get going until the spring of 1847 when Fr. John Scheonmakers from Holland, Fr. John Bax of Belgiumand three brothers, all Jesuit missionaries, established a permanent mission, they called it "Osage Mission". These men erected the first structures. The geography boundary of the Missiontoday is located in NeoshoCountybetween the NeoshoRiverand Flat Rock Creek. Osage Mission changed its name in 1895 to St. Paul(after St. Paulof the Cross founder of Passionist Order).
This is where Joe Jarboe comes back into the picture. The Rev. Schoemakers - back in WestportMissourioutfitting supplies and a small caravan for the Mission. Just so happened, Fr. John hired Mr. Jarboe, (the merchant) and his two-horse wagon to escort them to the newly established Osage Mission. The Jesuit and 3 nuns of the order of the Sisters of Loretto set out on a 150 mile southerly trek into Indian Territoryon the Neosho. For the sisters, this was the last leg of their journey from Nerinx, KY.The little caravan consisting of the Jesuit priest, Mr. Jarboe, Mother Concordia Henning, Sisters Bridget Hayden (of KilKenny Ireland), Sister Mary Van Prother and Sister Vincentia Van Cool. The group started for the Osage Mission, from Mrs. P.M. Chouteau house (One of the founding families of St. Louis).
The Sisters of Lorretto and the Jesuits built up the Missionministering the willing Osage through the times of treaties and the Civil War. The Indian population (some 5,000) due to those treaties and war were being displaced to the west and the Oklahomaterritory. In 1860 there were only 88 white settlers (mostly squatters) in the Southeast corner of the new state of Kansas. But when things changed, with the onset of the Homestead Act of 1862, this legally opened up Indian Territoryto white settlements. Homesteadand the 1865 Osage Reserve Treaty allowed for ex-soldiers & civilian emigration to settle the fertile bottom lands of the NeoshoRivervalley. Many of these soldiers hailed from central Kentucky.
To put the Kansas migration into perspective, those 88 white settlers in the entire southeast corner of the state in 1860 grew to 11,211 in just one county according to 1870 Neosho County census (est. 1861). Pretty intense numbers.
The city of Osage Missionwas laid out in December of 1867. The city and much of Neoshocounty were arranged in square mile grids or 640 acre plots. With the implementation of Kansas-NebraskaAct of 1854 along with the Osage Treaty of 1865
white settlers were able to purchase a 160 acre track for $1.25 an acre as long as they lived and improved the land. Families would band together and buy a full 640 acre
plot or section to combine their labor force. The offer of cheap bottom land attracted immigrant and Kentuckysettlers alike. Business was brisk and in 1869 the state accepted over 2,000 land applications.
Now we get to the meat…
In 1867 the first Kentuckian family with southern Maryland ancestry settled in the Osage Mission area was Francis Pius Coomes and spouse Rachel Ann Hagan, Then, came the Wheats, Leakes, Mudds, Jarboes, O’Bryans, Owens, Abells, Smiths, and so on. The attraction was more than the land, Osage Mission offered a religious community with familiarity. The Kentuckians kept coming and the city grew to over 3,000 in the 1870s and was the 13th largest community in the state. With the influx of so many Kentuckians the community continued the Marylandtraditions. The town developed into a catholic stronghold in the state with a monastery, convent, catholic school, and college. The streets were even lined with Kentuckyelms that my ancestors and others broght from MarionCountyin covered wagon. A few still survive after a 140 years of tornados.
The point of this glimpse into prairie history is to make available a list of names of that relate to St. Mary County, ancestry. Our hope is to instigate dialog to expand the Maryland linage database. We are going to post this and a second e-mail with a list of names. If you see a name of interest on that list, I would welcome your input. Thank you for taking the time to read…
Randy Dunavan
Longview, Texas
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I'm hoping either a RANKIN or BURNETT researcher is out there... or someone with knowledge regarding the Owens cemeteries.
There are several Owens cemeteries in Breck. Co. and none of the transcriptions nor cemetery books list a specific Owen cemetery for the twin (stillborn) daughters of William Henry RANKIN and Lucy Viola BURNETT Rankin.
I'd like to give these two infants a proper listing if someone has any light to shed that might help.
Thanks.....
Dana
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Big Sister to Donnie
9/9/1967-12/11/2007

I'm hoping either a BOARD researcher or someone with knowledge of the Horsley cemeteries can help me out.
I have a DC for Lilly BOARD HORSLEY that all I know is that she is buried in the "Horsley Cemetery". There are several Horsley cemeteries, so I can't say with accuracy which one she could be in since there is more than likely no marker (or at least one at the time of transcriptions).
If anyone could help out... I would be most appreciative!
Dana
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By chance is anyone out there a MOORMAN or OWEN researcher who may know something about a lady by the name of Bettie C. Owen Moorman? Her death certificate lists her as being buried in the Eli Dean cemetery, but I cannot find her listed in either Breck. Co. cemetery book, nor do they list an Eli Dean cemetery.
I've emailed with the only Dean researching expert I know, and he doesn't know anything. I'm hoping that either a DEAN researcher knows of this specific cemetery, or a MOORMAN and/or OWEN researcher will know something more about Bettie.
Thanks.....
Dana
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I'm hoping someone out there is researching the HOOK family lines.
In doing the DC's and linking them up to the cemeteries, I've come across two questions regarding the HOOK family that I can't find answers to.
I have a Jubal HOOK that is buried in Ivy Hill Cemetery. I can't find him listed in either cemetery book, I believe I got all the markers possible at Old Ivy Hill photographed, yet I don't know whether Jubal is buried in Old Ivy Hill or New Ivy Hill. Does anyone, by chance, know which cemetery?
Also, one of the DC's lists a HOOK Cemetery. I cannot find a listing for a Hook Cemetery in either book, and don't know if it's "disappeared" and is lost... or if it's known under another name. Anyone by chance know anything that could shed some light?
Thanks.....
Dana
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Hey all.....
Last night I brought more dc pages current. At present, the surname letters A-J are as complete as I have them and with cemetery links for those I know/researched out. I will be posting a few questions I have, in hopes that researchers in particular family groups might have the answers or at least some clues. It'll help me better pinpoint, I hope, where a cemetery is or even identify it as being a specific cemetery in the early 1910's.
Today, after I send out the latest batch of dc's to the transcribers, I'll begin working on the surname letters K and L to make a good run of completed dc's. As I mentioned yesterday, surname letter M was completed Friday night... so hopefully by the end of this week I'll have the entire alphabet as complete as possible through 1913.
If anyone has some free time and knows how to copy/paste, I have obituaries for Jan.-Oct. for Trent-Dowell and the Meade Co. newspaper that need to be submitted. The forms are rather easy, and I have the obits to send whomever could help.... right now, I just don't have the chance to take care of it myself.
Many thanks to Dave Rafferty for his submission of a 1915 Breck. Co. News article regarding the Rafferty lines. Every little bit helps!!
Y'all have a good one! Happy Hunting!!
Dana
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9/9/1967-12/11/2007

Hi all....
Just real quick on the recent additions/updates to the Breck. Co. site. I just uploaded the newest info for the "M" surname page within the Death Certificates page. There are some questions I'm going to throw out to the list, as a whole, in hopes of clearing up some unknowns, but for now the years 1911 and 1912 are completely covered and linked to their known corresponding cemetery page. I'm slowly getting all the "M" files ready and uploaded for the 1913 years.
Deborah Hull sent me the footstone and field stone pics for the Weatherford cem., which I hope here soon to get on the Weatherford Cemetery page. A great debt of thanks to her and her husband (who suffered a broken toe on their excursion) for all the pics from Weatherford, as well as the ones from Macedonia Cemetery. As I mentioned before, a stone she found and photographed (it was broken in two pieces) ended up solving a mystery for one Breck. Co. researcher regarding his "missing ancestor", and made that individual a "found" person so they could be remembered and not lost to time or the elements of nature.
Remember... if you have pics of cemetery markers that you'd like to submit, you can use the submissions form (the link is at the top of each page) or you can send to me directly and I'll get them posted online as soon as I can.
Happy Hunting!!
Dana
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This is my husbands uncle and here are some corrections.
Annie Marie Pryor Salmon,
Mrs. Lena Bowles, Mrs. Annie B Hendrick
I hope this helps someone.
Loveland Hendrick(s)
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Yes, I've seen the list for Daniel Sr's Inventory on the web somewhere. Of course I didn't think it was connected so I didn't keep it. It may take awhile to find it again.
I really appreciate you giving me other places to look. Are you a relative of the Hardins?
Becki
P.S. But was it really Zachary? Everyone in the family always called him Zachary, but the 1850 Census says Zachariah and the Edmonson Co Marriages has abliterated version of Zacariah too. I often wonder if it was a nickname that stuck. I have always been Becki, but my given name is Rebecca. What if Becki had been on my marriage license instead of Rebecca or what if my family puts Becki on my tombstone? Something else to ponder. Thanks again.
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Are there any CRUME researchers on the list??
I found some information that Sarah CRUME, daughter of Ralph CRUME and
Mary RIGGS, married Levi HORSLEY. I'm trying to connect my Berry L.
HORSLEY to this family line.
OK, that's the short version.
Here's the longer version,
It's one of those family legend things that you hear. Someone said they
overheard someone tell someone that Berry's fathers name was Ralph. The
1850 census for Coles County Illinois shows that Berry was born in
Kentucky ca 1823. The only "Ralph HORSLEY" that I have found that even
close to the correct age range is in Breckinridge County. He isn't
Berry's father but I'm wondering if the family legend got messed up and
Ralph could be Berry's brother instead. Ralph's parents were Levi
HORSLEY and Sarah CRUME according to the 1850 Breckinridge County
Census [ they were living with Ralph ]. Berry would have had to be one
of those late family surprises but..........................
According to the census images I have access to there are almost no
other HORSLEY's in Kentucky in the right age range to be Berry's father.
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Reply to beckiinin - the quality of the photocopies I have of the actual indentures is poor. I'll give you dates and book #'s and you can request them from the Breckinridge Co. Archivist, Courthouse, Hardinsburg, KY, 40143. There are only 3 or 4 . I think that she charges 25 cents per page for copies and you need to send an addressed stamped envelope for her to return them.
About the Jan. 3, 1845, indenture: Daniel, Sr. died on or about Nov. of 1827 or 1828. There is a recorded inventory for him - no will (I cannot find my copy at this writing). His heirs are his 8 children and widow Alcy (Alice) Jolly Hardin. He traded the land he received for his Revolutionary War service to Indian Bill Hardin (his Uncle) for 400 acres on Sugar Tree Run located 2 miles north of Lodiburg on the Lodiburg/Union Star Road. When son Joel married Abigail Rawlings in 1819, he bought 100 acres nearby and gave it to Joel & Abigail. Daniel, Jr. married an unknown young lady around 1824 when he would have been about 22 or 23 years old. She apparently died in childbirth when Joel P. was born, since neither she or other children for them are found.
On April 15, 1836, Daniel, Jr. partitioned Daniel, Sr's heirs for the 100 acres of land that he did not receive when he married. He and his infant son had lived with his parents. (Deeds 1836, Box 7, Folder 6). At that time Alcy was also given I/4 of the acreage and 1/4 of the profits- the remainder was 250 acres. On 5 Apr. 1838, Daniel, Jr. married Susan Kellums. ( Joel P. would have been about 13 then) and on May 8th, 1838, he and Susan sold the 100 acres to his brother-in-law Francis ( and sister Thursie) Basham who had helped to raise Joel P. for him.
The trio disappear - are not in the 1840 census. I have learned that Susan Kellums, too, died perhaps also in childbirth. Daniel may have remarried a Permelia ? and had another son named Daniel III b. ca 1842.
On Jan. 3, 1845, the heirs of Daniel Hardin, Sr. (1762-1827) sell the remaining 250 acres of the farm, All his children and their spouses sign the sale documents including Joel and Abigal Rawlings Hardin. The exceptions were: (1) Marenda Hardin who married Aaron Rawlings in 1819 - she died b/4 1830 and (2) Daniel Hardin, Jr.who must have died sometime before this sale. No one signs for Marenda, but a Joel Hardin signs for Daniel, Jr. Joel would be Daniel, Jr's heir and son Joel P. Hardin. The 250 acres were sold to a neighbor, Felix Mattingly for $400. Joel P. (now age 17) would have received 1/7th of the $400 or $57.00. He married Lucinda Basham Feb. 25,1847, and you know the rest of the story.
I think that it is interesting that every child of theirs is named after a member of Joel's father's family - Aunts, Uncles & cousins EXCEPT his first child Zachary. Zachary might have been his maternal grandfather's name. There are several families with last names beginning with a P. so maybe his gf was Zachary Perrin or Perry.
Also, the daughter Bettie Jolly Hardin Shay's husband's father is Patrick Shea.
MCM
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Fascinating! If you have scans of any of this info, I would love having a copy. My email is beckiinin AT pdswireless DOT com.Deleste the spaces and change the AT to @ and the DOT to .
Yes, I learned about the Hardin Reunion a couple of months ago and remember that my grandmother went to such a reunion occasionally when she was still alive. It also includes descendants of my great-grandfather, Joel B. Hardin who lived in Hepler for almost 30 years before moving to AR. Most of his children were all ready married so they stayed in KS.
As for what the P. stands for I have no idea. Joel's daughter, Betty Ann Jailey Hardin Shay's oldest son's name was Joel Patrick Shay. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.
I wondered who the young male was in Alice Jolly Hardin's household in the 1830 Census. I knew she was too old to have one that age.
Ok, it's early and I haven't had my second cup of coffee so bare with me. You're saying that my Joel inherited his dad Daniel's portion of his grandfather's farm, but then sold his portion to Felix Mattingly in 1845.
I really appreciate your post and would love any additional info that you have. I always felt that my Joel was a part of this family somehow because of the names of his children.
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