The poor man's G2 during a time after G2's death. Incidentally this actually intrigues me, as there was really nothing at all to that line, so it would be neat to see it gain a life it never had. Also I totally regret not getting any of the G2 redux stuff, so this is kind of a second best thing.

Redecos of toys as OTHER MW characters to flesh out and expand upon the Machines Wars series by having new characters interacting with the existing ones to make the original line bigger and more developed.

I'm kinda hoping it's the latter since that would help to enhance the line more than it already is and create greater opportunities for more story to be told with a cast greater than just twelve individuals.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And today, I feel that they have a steep hill to climb as I'd have preferred a Beast Machines follow-up.

Well the last few 3H-hosted BotCons/OTFCCs had the 2003 Universe series set up as a Beast Machines follow up.

And there's the Japanese timeline follow up to Beast Wars Returns with Beast Wars Reborn.

That is true, but my point is that I'd prefer something that I like a wee bit more than how this line turned out. Because I was one of those fans who wanted a Generation 1 revival at that time, and said "WTF is this?!" when they debuted this line.

And I knew both things. And the comparison is why Beast Wars Neo's Longrack is basically my only favorite Beast Wars character.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

lonrac wrote:Machine wars? never remember that one, I suppose Europe got mainly beast wars, or were those the moulds that made the pseudo generation 1.5

Machine Wars was an exclusive that had Hasbro collaborating with K-B Toys. Nothing real special back then, and a lot of fans (including myself) were hoping it was more of a Generation 1 revival. And unlike Generation 2, it did not really go international... Receive any real love when it debuted... And does not really have any vintage-based value.

In other words - BotCon has a lot of work if they want to make this a likable theme, especially for those who were around when the line first debuted.

I wished I had the money for the botcon exclusives and this year will be no exception. I just think that with a line that had little to no fiction and only a hand full of repaints from Europe and leftover molds from G2 there's a lot that can be done with this.

doing more, better.

Oh, the grammar.

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Oh and that wasn't bad grammar. The comma denotes a pause in the sentence thus breaking how it was to be read. "Wings is doing more with what they have, and better." is what he seemed to be intending to say. Instead he typed it the way he did and still got the point across by using just the comma. Had he not used that comma then it would've read: "more better". Which is indeed, poor grammar.Sorry, I had to.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Skywarp64 wrote:I don't care for most of the Machine Wars line, but dat Skyfire

There was no Jetfire/Skyfire in the Machine Wars line.

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Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.