Its a typical AMD move to just go overboard with something that is effectively useless for most. Same with the 8GB versions of their cards.

As if there's a point in having 10+ cores at 3.0GHz when a quad core at 4.0GHz destroys them.

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Exactly. Because, as it's clearly evident, a 10+ core with 20+ threads CPU is purely intended for GAMING, and so a quad core @ 4.0GHZ destroys them. It's also a typical Intel / Nvidia move to go overboard with something that is effectively useless. Those 8k$ xeons that get destroyed by a 60$ g4560 at gaming and those Nvidia Quadro that can't even play Tetris.

That reminds me of when I bought my first Pentium 200. "Wow! I'll never use 32 meg of memory!"

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Let me clarify: I don't think I would currently need 16 cores within the lifetime of that processor making it a poor buy for me considering my needs and the price-point/benefit correlating to the rate of currently advancing technology and application development.

That reminds me of when I bought my first Pentium 200. "Wow! I'll never use 32 meg of memory!"

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Let me clarify: I don't think I would currently need 16 cores within the lifetime of that processor making it a poor buy for me considering my needs and the price-point/benefit correlating to the rate of currently advancing technology and application development.

When apps need it and it costs a lot less of course I will buy it.

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Well said, frankly I find most of these chips from AMD/Intel to be disappointing for price performance.

Well said, frankly I find most of these chips from AMD/Intel to be disappointing for price performance.

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Someone as discerning as yourself, should probably open up their own fab. Just for laughs you know, to see how much it would cost you to get the first one off the line. It would be muy interesante to get the price/performance ratio on that..

Someone as discerning as yourself, should probably open up their own fab. Just for laughs you know, to see how much it would cost you to get the first one off the line. It would be muy interesante to get the price/performance ratio on that..

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Allow me to rephrase that, the price performance isn't worth it to me to upgrade from what I already have.

This is great. I've always been an Intel boy, but it's about time they had some serious competition looking to knock their block off. With AMD's prices, Intel must be sweating bullets and having nightmares.

This is great. I've always been an Intel boy, but it's about time they had some serious competition looking to knock their block off. With AMD's prices, Intel must be sweating bullets and having nightmares.

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That is probably why the are slapping an i9 brand on some of their new parts even though they are not really evloutionary. After all, i9 must be better than i7 since 9 is greater than 7.

Faster bandwidth, UHD advancements will need powerful CPU and more RAM. They're pushing the power and beyond. Although most of us here can get by with our current crop of CPU. I am no rush to go and buy anything yet until hardware system does a full RIP. With some glue, electric black tape I can get the old girl up and running in no time at all. Just hopefully she doesn't beep at bootup too many times at me.. I have 3x of those AMD Black Edition PH 2.5 GHz Quad with Southxxx Bus System 8 GB of DDR2 RAM still stands up although no AMD Catalyst UI/UX for it under Windows 10 64-bit though.

AMD APU are the bomb for me although any improvements over 3.4/3.7 GHz would be a welcome but I already have the system along with 2 core 2.8 GHz overclock to 3.4 GHz which I am on more than my 3.4/3.7GHz. System seems much quicker but only by a few secs.

I only run Windows 10 Home License Versions works out great. i3 the same but to me coupled with 8 GB DDR3 runs rings around AMD P300 Series. Even with all my systems tweaks. Then again extra 4 GB of faster RAM does make it edge out higher. I am happy with what I got some systems are 7 years old but still they work just a good. But I'll will upgrade by 2020. See what the prices are like and hopefully transparent hardware will be out? Crossing my fingers for the best! LOL