I don't quite understand the question. Definitely need more info about the hand. Blind levels, # of players at the table, and need to know every action at the table thus far to understand the 3 bet part. And I'm assuming this a ring game or is it a tourney or SnG? If it's a MTT how many players are left? Also, what does the "K8 or 9" mean?

#3

25th August 2013, 5:12 AM

RodneyC86 [592]

Poker at: PS

Game: NLHE

????? If you are first to act preflop how are you ever 3-betting unless you backraised (limp then raise a subsequent raise ahead of you)

Either way, if you're ever going to backraise, best do it with AQ-AK when you have supper Laggy thieves in the CO and BU, because of blockers and you are likely to pick some bets more than a raise UTG??? then again, if those guys are laggy, prolly best to stick a standard raise anyway and not complicate things

Still, mostly dangerous strategy.

K8 or K9 is an autofold preflop UTG full ring most of the time...

#4

25th August 2013, 10:11 AM

thebigslade [79]

Online Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Holdem

Brave.

#5

25th August 2013, 5:22 PM

Chemist [1,251]

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: holdem

. . . thinking this doesn't make any sense.

#6

26th August 2013, 12:06 AM

dgiharris [104]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: both

K8 or K9 in early position....

auto fold

but what if its K8 or K9 soooottteeeedddd....

oh, in that case....

its still an auto fold

#7

26th August 2013, 12:12 AM

Beanfacekilla [3,128]

Poker at: Bet Online

Game: Holdem

re: Poker & marginal hands and different positions.

Originally Posted by jcla6985

First to act pre flop 9 max. Im 3 betting this, thoughts?

Say what?

#8

26th August 2013, 12:14 AM

vinylspiros [4,379]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: NLHE

JCLA, you got mixed up up man. Your not clear as to what you mean. If your talking aboout raising it in a 9 max then no. Fold it. Only raise that from cuttoff or button , assuming the pot hasnt been openned yet.

p.s K9 suited is alil better than K8 suited but to me they are the exact same hand. It's not too bad of a hand to be honest but its not the best either.

#9

26th August 2013, 12:16 AM

MTCashman [1,489]

Poker at: All of them

Game: Hold Em/Razz

K8 and K9 SUCK! Fold it

#10

26th August 2013, 12:21 AM

credsfan03 [636]

Online Poker at: carbon

Game: holdem

Yeah try to make it more clear so we get a better understanding of the hand and be able to help you.

#11

26th August 2013, 12:24 AM

Skull_Sniper [111]

Poker at: True/Pure

Game: Holdem

I think he's just jerkin our chains. Nobody 3 bets with K 8 or 9 especially if they're not sure which one it is. Sir, or madam, you need to repost this in the "Joke of the day" thread.

Its just a general question. And its a question I asked in a poker forum, you people hatig just get a life. I usually play 9 max cash games, althought I have been playing it the same way if suited in torny play

#14

26th August 2013, 8:13 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

re: Poker & marginal hands and different positions.

And I appreciate the positi e help from the rest of you. Thank you!

#15

26th August 2013, 8:28 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

Originally Posted by Skull_Sniper

I think he's just jerkin our chains. Nobody 3 bets with K 8 or 9 especially if they're not sure which one it is. Sir, or madam, you need to repost this in the "Joke of the day" thread.

Ya right next to your photo

#16

26th August 2013, 8:29 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

Originally Posted by RodneyC86

????? If you are first to act preflop how are you ever 3-betting unless you backraised (limp then raise a subsequent raise ahead of you)

Either way, if you're ever going to backraise, best do it with AQ-AK when you have supper Laggy thieves in the CO and BU, because of blockers and you are likely to pick some bets more than a raise UTG??? then again, if those guys are laggy, prolly best to stick a standard raise anyway and not complicate things

Still, mostly dangerous strategy.

K8 or K9 is an autofold preflop UTG full ring most of the time...

Would you mind defining standard raise? Im under the impression 3 times the big bling is a standard raise?

#17

26th August 2013, 9:30 PM

Beanfacekilla [3,128]

Poker at: Bet Online

Game: Holdem

If you are first to act preflop, you can't 3-bet. A 3-bet is when you are the second person to raise.

Blind = 1 bet, a raise is 2-bet, another raise is a 3-bet.

Therefore, from your statements, we all assumed you were UTG (under the gun, to the immediate left of the big blind).

K-9 or K-8 is an automatic fold from UTG. To many people yet to act after you. You would likely be playing a mediocre hand out of position. Not a good idea.

#18

26th August 2013, 9:32 PM

Beanfacekilla [3,128]

Online Poker at: Bet Online

Game: Holdem

Originally Posted by jcla6985

Would you mind defining standard raise? Im under the impression 3 times the big bling is a standard raise?

A standard raise is three or four times the big blind. Table dynamics may change this however.

#19

26th August 2013, 9:34 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

Originally Posted by Beanfacekilla

If you are first to act preflop, you can't 3-bet. A 3-bet is when you are the second person to raise.

Blind = 1 bet, a raise is 2-bet, another raise is a 3-bet.

Therefore, from your statements, we all assumed you were UTG (under the gun, to the immediate left of the big blind).

K-9 or K-8 is an automatic fold from UTG. To many people yet to act after you. You would likely be playing a mediocre hand out of position. Not a good idea.

Ahh thank you im horrible with poker terminology, I meant 3 brt as in 3 times the big bling, maybe thats why everyone thinks im stupid? Haha live and learn

#20

26th August 2013, 10:03 PM

xlmnx [73]

Online Poker at: Lock Poker

Game: Horsey

I was never informed of this terminology either ;( but now that isee it i understand and there is no such thing as auto fold in my books! The more you fold the less pots your in on, the less pots your in on the more boring it becomes and less money you make. Good luck with you K 8/9's they arent working today for me!

#21

26th August 2013, 10:13 PM

Blobweird123 [2,468]

Poker at: Bovada

Game: nlhe

re: Poker & marginal hands and different positions.

Originally Posted by xlmnx

I was never informed of this terminology either ;( but now that isee it i understand and there is no such thing as auto fold in my books! The more you fold the less pots your in on, the less pots your in on the more boring it becomes and less money you make. Good luck with you K 8/9's they arent working today for me!

They aren't working for you today because they are auto folds lol. The less pots you're in, the more pots where you will have a stronger hand surely. Logic=flawed.

#22

26th August 2013, 10:56 PM

dgiharris [104]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: both

Originally Posted by xlmnx

I was never informed of this terminology either ;( but now that isee it i understand and there is no such thing as auto fold in my books! The more you fold the less pots your in on, the less pots your in on the more boring it becomes and less money you make. Good luck with you K 8/9's they arent working today for me!

I never knew there was a correlation between being bored and making less money....

So when you are bored you make less money but when you are not bored you make more money????

#23

26th August 2013, 11:02 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

Yea, dont go in more pots because ypur bored.play the pots you think you can win

#24

26th August 2013, 11:12 PM

Kenzie 96 [10,887]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

Originally Posted by jcla6985

First to act pre flop 9 max. Im 3 betting this, thoughts?

K8 or K9 is basically a garbage hand in that position, plug that leak.

#25

26th August 2013, 11:19 PM

Akorps [450]

Poker at: Intertops

Game: Omaha hi-lo

K9 suited is a strange hand. When analyzed using poker software I often find it is just over the line into the range of bad starting hands, for some reason.

#26

26th August 2013, 11:19 PM

ScottishMatt [2,323]

K9s is the absolute minimum I would ever open UTG in a 6max cash game. Add an additional 3 players behind and it becomes a lot tougher to play. Snap fold in any scenario IMO.

K8 or K9 is basically a garbage hand in that position, plug that leak.

I concur^^^ will save you $$$

#28

27th August 2013, 2:47 AM

dgiharris [104]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: both

re: Poker & marginal hands and different positions.

Originally Posted by Akorps

K9 suited is a strange hand. When analyzed using poker software I often find it is just over the line into the range of bad starting hands, for some reason.

K9 suited is a horrible hand because it ends up being such a big RIO (reverse implied odds) hand.

When the board hits K X X.... you end up bleeding money to better kings.

When the board hits Q J T.... You get anally raped by AK

basically, I find there's little difference between K9s and K5s. Essentially they are just both FD hands in which you are hoping to hit. So if you have great odds to draw then fine draw. But K9s in and of itself isn't a good hand by any stretch. I auto fold K9s everywhere accept HJ, CO, or BTN. And I rarely if ever call a raise with K9s even if in position. I would need insanely good direct and implied odds to play K9s in a raised pot.

Its one of those hands that on the surface may seem okay, but when you think about it, its just dog shtt

#29

27th August 2013, 7:55 AM

Blobweird123 [2,468]

Poker at: Bovada

Game: nlhe

Originally Posted by dgiharris

You get anally raped by AK

sorry to be that guy but is this really necessary? I mean you cant just say like "You lose to AK?"

#30

27th August 2013, 9:06 AM

Poker Orifice [17,172]

Game: NLHE

Originally Posted by dgiharris

You get anally raped by AK

.

I knew there was something good about AK!

#31

27th August 2013, 9:17 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

j10

Is this hand good? More specifically 9 mqx table first to act or very early with nobody in before you. I have been raising, thoughts? Will this turn out like my k9 thread? Lol

#32

27th August 2013, 9:22 PM

jcla6985 [638]

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: Hold Em

mediocre hand

What do you guys do wih mediocre hands when you are small blind and it folds around to you? My versions of mediocore hands now ...umm like k9, jq, a4, should I raise? I have been but then when they reraise im unsure what to do. Should I even be raising in these situations? What to do when raised?