Next Developer Chat This Friday with Mike Pinkerton

Monday October 25th, 1999

Our next developer chat is this Friday with Mike Pinkerton at 3:00pm PDT (PDT is GMT-0700). Mike will be talking about "Mozilla and Mac - News, issues, and the 'Mozilla in the Mac' user-experience". We had a great chat last week, and this chat should be sure to touch on many of the issues important to Mac users (I'm sure it will be interesting for non-Mac users as well).

The chat will occur at #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org. If you're not familiar with IRC, and would like to check out the chat, post a request here and I'm sure someone would be able to help you get your IRC client set up. Or, you can just wait for the chat log (which will appear here soon after the chat finishes).

Okay, this week is the first week I feel like participating in a chat, rather than just reading the transcript later, and it's the same time as my history class! ARGHH! Can't skip it, got a paper do for that class that day! ACK!

Well everyone else enjoy the chat, back to reading transcripts as usual . . .

I recently found myself near a 300mhz G3 and decided to download a mozilla nightly build to see if all the horror stories about the Mac version were true. Load time was normal, operations were responsive, page loading was excellent, and I think there might be fewer UI quirks than on the Linux. Since I'm not a Mac user, I can't attest to its Mac-ness as a program. All in all, I'm not sure what everyone was whining about.

The Mac-ness of it as a program is
*exactly* what everyone has been whining about.

Mac users, more than users of any other platform, expect applications to be consistent with interface guidelines. As soon as you start introducing native widgets, cross-platorm interfaces, and so on, you put that consistency under threat.

What does one need to build mozilla. I have an up to date Linux system with gcc-2.95.1 and glibc-2.1.2 and the latest binutils. I can get anything to work, except for mozilla. Some months ago it sometimes worked, but these weeks whenever I update my CVS copy and compile the whole bunch from scratch, and everything crashes right at startup. Seamonkey Tinderbox says it should be fine. Anyone with more success, please give some info about your system.