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Comment by julgran

This item is going to be able to create by scribers (players with inscription as a proffesion). There is going to be 8 different kinds of these cards, and can be put together to form a deck, and turned in for items that will be like Darkmoon Card: , that has been able to find in both the original game and the burning crusade.

This will be equal to the lvl 80 cards.

Comment by Mongatsumi

Actually, this will probably create random cards of the Northrend Darkmoon Card sets. It seems that it is following the other two abilities like this.

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Comment by Qhoirajai

Only Seen a handful of Cards on the AH, ranging from 1,000g to 7,000g; no doubt simply seeding the Auction House high to maintain pricing.

I have 33 Cards now, NO Full Decks, Bad Luck for me.

Only Full Deck I have seen is Darkmoon Card: Illusion priced at 20,000g.======================SUGGESTION : Collaborate with Other Scribes.We use a Chat SubChannel to Discuss Fair Trade and Glyphs and especially creation and EXCHANGE of duplicate DarkMoon Cards of the North. We agree that we are better off working together than attempting to do it all Solo for Cards.======================

At this stage, You're not working on this* Darkmoon Faire, you're attempting to maintain the viability of the Cards 5 weeks from now, at the Next Darkmoon Faire.Teamork wins.

************************The mats for these cards are a tad brutal, the Icy Pigment seems to have a very low rate, each Card needing 12 Pigments for the 6 SnowFall Ink.

After that, you only have the Darkmoon Card of the North which turns green at 450, and gray at 475, which isnt relevant as it looks now, when the level cap is 450.Though you are right, it is the only way to turn 450.

Comment by RyanLuster88

any know if the Card explot still works? - that is : you fill your bags completly up so no space is left. Once you get the card you want you remove 1 item and out it in that spot (again making bags full) and then keep crafting till the card you want pops up - empty a slot, put card there - repeat to get desired deck.

havnt heard from any1 knowing if it works still as of 3.0.9

Comment by Raniz

I've done some simulations regarding how many cards you have to make (on average) to get a certain deck and the mats for it.

I've done 10 000 simulations for each step and here are the results:To get all cards of a certain deck you need to make an average of 87 (86.944) cards.

You can either get Snofall Ink from 10 Ink of the Sea (20 pigments) or 2 Icy Pigment. Let's make 1 Icy Pigment "worth" 10 Azure Pigments to make the simulation easier. We then need 21 402 Azure Pigments to craft 87 cards.

Deadnettle has a 100% chance to mill for 2-3 Azure pigments (mean value of 2.5) and 25% chance to drop 1-3 Icy Pigment (mean value of 2). Using the above conversion rate this makes Deadnettle mill for (on average) 2.5 Azure Pigments and 25% chance to mill for an additional 20 Azure Pigments. Simulating this 10 000 times gives us the following results:To get 21 402 Azure Pigments (which can be converted into 1 044 Snowfall Ink and 261 Ink of the Sea) we need to mill an average of 14275 Deadnettle.

If we mill Icethorn instead we have a 100% chance to mill for 2-4 Azure Pigment and 50% chance to mill for 1-3 Icy Pigment. Using the same conversion as above we get 3 Azure Pigments and 50% chance to mill for an additional 20 Azure Pigments. With 10 000 simulations the results are:To get 21 402 Azure Pigments (which can be converted into 1 044 Snowfall Ink and 261 Ink of the Sea) we need to mill an average of 8 238 Icethorn.

Which herb you choose to mill is up to you, buying the 14 275 Deadnettle from AH would be cheaper than buying 8 238 Icethorn on my server, I have no clue about which would be faster to farm.

Comment by Empyrean

I dont know how to do all that fancy simulation/programming stuff, however I have the mats ready to make 100 in one go. Will update on how it turns out.

*Note* All of these were farmed myself, for this little project, just herbing day and night. I only milled Lichbloom and Icethorn. Apologies for no milling stats for those, I didn't think about doing so until now. Perhaps when I will when I do this again in a few months.

Seems that Chaos came out on top this time, We'll see what happens in a month =)

Comment by darkanima270

Yesterday night and Tonight i've farmed enough herbs for make 24 Cards, i've obteined 9 nobles cardsAce - 2Two - 0Three - 2Four - 2Five - 0Six - 1Seven - 1Eight - 1Also i've gained 48 Frost Lotus and sold for 40g each in ah, 1900 gold. with these money i have buyed the other 2 cards remain for my deck and i've completed it, and probably i'll sell the double card during the event Darkmoon Faire 8000 gold (in my server) in 7 total hours in Sholazar Basin! the best place for farm these cards(adder tongues = 50% icy Pigment)anyway if u need to make some money, go to herbalize everythink in sholazar and get ready to be rich!

Last Think....you will need to have some lucky :P

Comment by Belse

With a lot of money you can make even more from this. At least in theory. What you need is the auctioneer addon which shows both the average price of the cards and the average material price.

Check the average price of all cards you can get and add these prices together. Then you divide it by 32 and if the number you get is greater than the price of the mats you can make them with an almost safe profit.

Of course there is a chance that you are unlucky and will only get a bunch of prisms cards but if you make enough cards the odds are that you will make a profit. But most people who have sucessfully made the amounts of money to do this should have figured it out themselves but just saying it in case somebody missed it.

---Start near 69,27--- and work your way up, then cross over to 83,29 After that work your way around the middle a little bit, checking around the temples on the east sideThen the trees all around Har'Koa usually have 4-6 herbsAlter of Sseratus usually has 4-6 herbs around thereWorking your way north to Alter of Rhunok, 4-6 more herbsZul'Maz Stronghold usually has 4-6 herbs---Restart at 69,27--- and re-circle.

This is the best place because of how close the herbs are together. They are Frozen herbs, and around the trees near the Gundrak Flight Path, often there are 1-2 herbs per tree. By the time you make the circle, all of the herbs are back, and they are so close together that you get a ton of herbs. Off of two complete circles, I get somewhere near 30 Ink of the Sea's, and a couple Icy pigments (Frozen mostly give Goldclover, Tigerlily and that Tundra rose thingy). Not good for selling, but amazing for ink-gathering. I use this to make ink for my AH glyphs. Amazingly short herb route with amazing turn out, and I have never seen anyone else farming it.

Comment by Mornay

You're one of those who believe that if you farm mats yourself then they are worthless? You could mine all the ore required to make a piece of armour, then craft the armour and you would consider the cost of that armour to be zero? You would be wrong. Just because you didn't buy the materials to make it, those materials still have raw monetary value.

Maybe you should read up on basic economics before voting down my post and if you are going to disagree then please state your reasons why

Biggest load of rubbish I ever saw written.

is not a sufficient reason

Comment by warcanon

Comments on wowhead should be informative, you can use thottbot for non-informative commentsSeems like the comment I was replying to have been removed sins I made this one.

Comment by dysfunction

Hey guys! I'd like to add my results too. I'm farming DMF rep for "the Insane" title, so I bought 242 stacks of adder's tongue, and 192 Eternal Life. Let's see the results.

Comment by ZidjiN

Ive tryed that and it DOESNT work. Not on my server anyway.Most cards dont sell at all. I get around 100g for a complete deck (other then nobles) if im lucky. Atm i have three chaos decks on the ah at 80g each, they have been there for weeks.

What you could do though is to calculate that every other card then nobles equal 0. Then you would probably get a better estimate.

Comment by Tuileven

People who think farmed mats are free need to remember the goblin saying:

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Comment by acapela

more and more, this "gambling" (remember Diablo2?) on the drop rates on these cards is looking insuperably slow and "expensive" to me.

my scribe has cranked 200+ cards at this point (over the months), and i would say 40% of them have been either two of chaos, seven of chaos, or five of prisms (none of which sell, much less sell for enough to help defray the "expense" of making these cards). i have not been able to complete even one nobles deck yet, nor enough spare nobles cards to support the purchase/trade for the cards i still need to complete that single partial deck.

i hate to say it, but given the (apparently) capricious nature of the distribution of these cards (which seems weighted decisively towards dreck to me), and the time/effort/expense of generating them relative to their current cost on the AH (finished nobles decks sell reliably for around 4000g on my server), i am convinced that it makes more sense to sell the materials derived from the farming i am doing now (herbalism/mining, on different characters), accumulate the gold, and then just buy finished decks.

Comment by domaz

Talk about luck.

I made 20 Darkmoon card of the north, and 7 of them was 7 different noble cards.

Uploaded a screenshot of it - hope it gets approved.

Comment by Darkcanuck99

For scribes that mill hundreds of herbs each week to mass-produce glyphs, you cannot GIVE away Snowfall inks. There are only a few sinks to use them for and DMCs is one. The only really significant cost is the Eternal Lifes which go for ~20g on my server... or 400g/sack. Individual Nobles cards usually sell for at least that. So, crafting these can actually be somewhat profitable if you can get the lifes for a good price.

Trying to sell the individual cards from other decks is almost futile... just sit on them until you can create a whole deck, you will have better success.

Comment by RottweilerCP

Darkcanuck99 is absolutely right. I probably make 10-20 snowfall inks a day and might sell 5 a week for about 18g each. I was putting together a Ret set for my Wife's Pally since she recently took it up as her off spec and noticed the Darkmoon card was still the #6 BiS trinket and since she's not ready to raid ICC or even spend Emblems of Frost on one it's the best she can do for a while. So I decided to try to make her the deck after reading all the info here. I had the following results:

100 cards

Prism: 221 # 72 # 33 # 44 # 15 # 46 # 17 # 08 # 2

Estimated Worth: 1,319g

Chaos: 261 # 22 # 53 # 54 # 25 # 56 # 37 # 18 # 3

Estimated Worth: 1,139g

Undeath: 311 # 52 # 13 # 34 # 25 # 56 # 47 # 87 # 3

Estimated Worth: 2,455g

Nobles: 211 # 22 # 33 # 24 # 15 # 06 # 47 # 68 # 3

Estimated worth: 12,262g

Total estimated worth: 17,175g

Not quite even, not a full Nobles deck, heck only 2 full decks, but not bad. I doubt I'll sell the cards for that much and I don't know the average deck prices. I know I've seen the nobles deck offered in trade for 4-5k. I would estimate my cost at 15g/stack of herbs, Icethorn or Adder's Tongue, and 20g per eternal life. And I'd say I average 1 snowfall ink per stack of herbs, so: