You didn't read my post clearly. ATM turned things around with a coaching change (Sumlin). Do you see Jimbo going anywhere anytime soon? Better question, If Jimbo hires an OC who do you think he would hire? It would be someone who ran the same type of offense Jimbo runs currently. That's not improving if that's the road we take. FSU can improve but the other teams in the SEC will also. We are behind 4-5 teams right now in the SEC. Do you see us improving enough to overtake them all? FSU has been slumping for 12 years and this was suppose to be our year. 10-2 with this crap schedule would be 7-5 or 8-4 this year in the SEC. If we played UF schedule this year we are 8-4 at best. ATM, UGA, LSU, USCe, and UF on the same schedule would equal 4 losses. Is 8-4 ok just because we in the SEC?

So if we move to the SEC, will you change your screen name to alwaysmediocrefsu?

If we are no better then an 8-4 team in the SEC, then shouldn't we be firing our coaches and hiring somebody else? I mean, if we can't do better then 8-4 in the SEC, that means even if we go undefeated through the ACC we still won't be good enough to win a national title because we can't beat UF and we can't beat the teams we would play in the playoff.

Soooo, doesn't that mean it would be bad for FSU to stay in the ACC and keep going 10-2 or 11-1 because we would never win a title, but we would never be bad enough to justify firing our HC? And therefore, wouldn't FSU be better off moving to the SEC, going 8-4 a few years, firing our HC, then having the SEC money to hire a new HC who can put FSU in the national title picture?

You see, no matter how you frame your argument, the better choice for FSU is to move to the SEC. You say we would lose more games as though that means we shouldn't do it, but really that proves the point that we should do it. Because otherwise we are stuck with what you characterized as poor coaching and we will never be good enough to win a title.