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Good chapter, somewhat.
It's really seeing Yammamoto like that, cut up into pieces. Persistent, yet so weak.
Old age made him weaker?
Juha Bach is a ruthless ****. Destroying everything, killing everyone. *sigh*
Is Shunsui dead as well? Didn't quite get what he got hit with.
So he's waiting for the Royal Guards..
I have a feeling Isshin will be there, just a small feeling.
Oh, look up in the sky! Is it a bird? A plane?
Seriously, if that's Kurosaki, I'm killing Kubo.

Kind of like that opening scene. Would've been nicer if it was used earlier, as a kind of... foreshadowing, almost, to his Bankai and death.

Will love to see Shunsui, Ukitake, and Unohana's reactions. Arc, we might finally get to see some action.

Also wow he was just sliced in half daaamn.

Fighting to the last limb... Not surprising.

"5 warring potentials" did he go over this entirely? I think he mentioned Kenpachi as one; Byakuya was probably another. I figure Unohana/Shunsui/Ukitake are the other 3. Unless, perhaps, Shinji (if he knows him as a Vaizard), and/or Ichigo.

Huh, good point with not having his arm healed.

Hmm... I feel like there's a reason why he mentioned the "old" Gotei 13.

I'm not sure if I liked the fact that he mentioned the Royal Guards, or not.
Now it's not a surprise to the reader when they enter - because we're reminded of them.
But it also means that Juha Bach has something prepared for them. It might be like Aizen's plan to split up the 13 captains by taking 2 with him, and letting 4 chase after Ichigo; leaving fewer captains to fight in the actual war. So if/when he and Aizen go to the Soul King, there'll be fewer guards to fight.

Huh, I wonder what that is. Probably not the Royal Guard - Juha Bach seems to have an idea for when they're coming. It's definitely something he didn't account for; my gut is saying either Isshin and co., or perhaps whoever "saved" Ichigo.

Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken

Anyways, how be you guys?
I zast realised I'm going to be engaged for almost a year.. Scary.
I miss MSN ._.

Great; college is so much better than high school (would have been better if I didn't take economics XD)
Oh wow, already a yeah? Bloody hell
yeahcomeonmore

Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken

Spoiler:- Manga511:

Old age made him weaker?

Is Shunsui dead as well? Didn't quite get what he got hit with.

Spoiler:

I wouldn't chalk it up to old age. I think he's making the point that when Soul Society turned from bloodthirsty warriors to peaceful, and concerned about justice and pride, they had become weak.

I don't think he is. Probably just caught off-guard and winded now.

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Aizen will come out sooner or later, I think. Unless Kubo just mentioned him last week for fun, which I don't think it is.

Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken

Spoiler:- Manga511:

Is Shunsui dead as well? Didn't quite get what he got hit with.
I have a feeling Isshin will be there, just a small feeling.

I don't think so. He got like 2 shots from the man, that's all. And he's got plotkai protection, so not yet.
Most likely.

Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)

Spoiler:- manga:

Will love to see Shunsui, Ukitake, and Unohana's reactions. Arc, we might finally get to see some action.

Fighting to the last limb... Not surprising.

"5 warring potentials" did he go over this entirely? I think he mentioned Kenpachi as one; Byakuya was probably another. I figure Unohana/Shunsui/Ukitake are the other 3. Unless, perhaps, Shinji (if he knows him as a Vaizard), and/or Ichigo.

It might be like Aizen's plan to split up the 13 captains by taking 2 with him, and letting 4 chase after Ichigo; leaving fewer captains to fight in the actual war. So if/when he and Aizen go to the Soul King, there'll be fewer guards to fight.

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Heck yeah. I just hope Unohana's fight won't be rushed like Yamamoto.

I was seriously expecting another Hado #96, but no.

We know Ichigo is one; he mentioned it earlier. And Kenpachi too.

Why would the Royal Guards chase after Ichigo, though? Not like he's special or anything from their POV; Yamamoto might have deemed Ichigo as one seeing how he exposed Aizen's plan accidentally and whatnot, but I doubt the RGs have anything to do with him.

/still wondering why Juha Bach wants to kill the RGs. Maybe he plans to exterminate the whole shinigami, but that would destroy the whole Living World - Soul Society balance. Ah well.

Why would the Royal Guards chase after Ichigo, though? Not like he's special or anything from their POV; Yamamoto might have deemed Ichigo as one seeing how he exposed Aizen's plan accidentally and whatnot, but I doubt the RGs have anything to do with him.

/still wondering why Juha Bach wants to kill the RGs. Maybe he plans to exterminate the whole shinigami, but that would destroy the whole Living World - Soul Society balance. Ah well.

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No idea, but I'm not complaining 8D

Ah, you've misunderstood. When I said "It might be like Aizen's plan to split up the 13 captains by taking 2 with him, and letting 4 chase after Ichigo; leaving fewer captains to fight in the actual war. So if/when he and Aizen go to the Soul King, there'll be fewer guards to fight." everything from "Aizen's plan" to "the actual war" was part of Aizen's plan. I should've said Winter War.
In this case, Juha Bach is Aizen, the Royal Guard are the captains, and Yamamoto is Ichigo. So like how Aizen split up the captains, by letting some of them chase after and save Ichigo, Juha Back might split up the Royal Guard, by letting some of them come and save the Seireitei.

It sounds more like "alright now reinforcements will be sent so let's just wait for them to come".

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Well, at least I'm not totally raging over this chapter.
I actually thought Juhabach's script was pretty good for a villian.
I didn't notice that Yamamoto was cut in half when I first read the chapter. o.0
I'm still pissed the with the way Kubo is killing off the good guys...
I was a bit surprised at the mention of Squad 0, at least there's something to look forward to.
And it ends on a cliffhanger...I guess it wouldn't be a proper Bleach chapter if it didn't end on a cliffhanger.
I'm predicting that Ichigo will suddenly appear next chapter, with no explanation as to how until several chapters later.

Ah, you've misunderstood. When I said "It might be like Aizen's plan to split up the 13 captains by taking 2 with him, and letting 4 chase after Ichigo; leaving fewer captains to fight in the actual war. So if/when he and Aizen go to the Soul King, there'll be fewer guards to fight." everything from "Aizen's plan" to "the actual war" was part of Aizen's plan. I should've said Winter War.
In this case, Juha Bach is Aizen, the Royal Guard are the captains, and Yamamoto is Ichigo. So like how Aizen split up the captains, by letting some of them chase after and save Ichigo, Juha Back might split up the Royal Guard, by letting some of them come and save the Seireitei.

It sounds more like "alright now reinforcements will be sent so let's just wait for them to come".

Spoiler:

You're pretty gore. :P

Ah, I see now. XD
What you're implying is that Juhabach is also planning to kill the Spirit King, then.
The whole RG concept though is really huge. I mean, we still have a handful of Captains whose bankai still need to be explained (Unohana, Aizen (probably), Shunsui, Ukitake, Shinji, Rose, Love, Kensei (if at all) and Isshin). Then you have the whole RG member.

No wonder Kubo is killing off old characters left and right.

... What?

Originally Posted by Zameric

Spoiler:- Bleach 511:

I'm still pissed the with the way Kubo is killing off the good guys...
I was a bit surprised at the mention of Squad 0, at least there's something to look forward to.
And it ends on a cliffhanger...I guess it wouldn't be a proper Bleach chapter if it didn't end on a cliffhanger.
I'm predicting that Ichigo will suddenly appear next chapter, with no explanation as to how until several chapters later.

What, no comments on my enhanced bankai?

Spoiler:

Eh, let him. We need to see some other characters who still have yet to show their talents. Killing off (or at the very least, decapitating) Byakuya, Renji and a few other old characters pave the way nicely for that.

Really? I was kinda expecting it since Kubo did mention it in the interview :P

Haha, yeah.

Oh, let him be stuck in there for some more time.

The only differences I see are Gomon, time flow and resurrection. Faster time flow would make it a suitable hiding spot Resurrection is pretty... worthless? I mean, yeah, you could have fun torturing your enemies I guess but practically, it sort of does nothing.

I guess it's better than suddenly having cancerous cells all over your body :P

Is there a gratuitous violence theme this week in the manga, or is it just me? Bleach had Yamamoto getting bifurcated, dis-armed (or un-handed), and blasted to smitherenes; then Shunsui getting shot, tons of random Shinigami getting eviscerated, and ridiculous amounts of death. Naruto had utter and complete slaughter on a scale we haven't seen to this point, plus what happened to Rin, and massive amounts of gore via Obito-slaughterhouse.

Anyway, a somwhat interesting chapter. Nothing really happened, but the background about Yamamoto is nice, and I liked what Juuha Bach said about him being too weak because he felt the need to protect everything he held dear. It's actually a plot point that I have for my fanfic (which IS coming along, don't worry. It'll just take a while.)

I imagine that the explosion is going to be Ichigo+Friends+Urahara+Mystery Backup (probably other Arrancar, hopefully Grimmjow and others).

Bach wanting to go after Squad 0 is probably because he wants to claim supremacy. Without Squad 0, he probably sees the Royal Guard Spirit King as defenseless.

goddamnit it typos

Last edited by Eon Master; 12th October 2012 at 5:54 AM.

"I'm fighting because there's a battle to be fought, Archer. I'm fighting to win. That's all."

"Hm. Alright, Rin. You are indeed my ideal Master. There is no one else I could hope to serve."

Bach wanting to go after Squad 0 is probably because he wants to claim supremacy. Without Squad 0, he probably sees the Royal Guard Spirit King as defenseless.

So he can sort of rule the world, so to speak? Generic video game theme, but eh

Spoiler:

Also I just noticed the front page had Yama's cut-in-half body.. o.o

And people are speculating that the person to the right of Yama is Unohana. Would be sort of cool and weird at the same time if she was indeed one of the ruthless captains at that time :P

And... this: Spoiler:

Also, a question I've been wondering. For the sake of example, let's say every other Captain come out of the war alive. Who would be the new Head Captain? Either the three senior Captains or maybe a Captain from 0 Division?

Also, a question I've been wondering. For the sake of example, let's say every other Captain come out of the war alive. Who would be the new Head Captain? Either the three senior Captains or maybe a Captain from 0 Division?

Then again, Yama himself founded the Academy and Gotei 13, right?

Spoiler:

I started thinking about this after Yamamoto's fight with Aizen, especially since a normal Soul Reaper would have died from using Hadō #96. Ittō Kasō.
I've actually incorporated my thoughts into my fanfic (that I stopped writing), the Neo-Quincy Arc.
I personally think that Shunsui Kyōraku would become the new Head-Captain, at least as an interim until a new captain for Squad 1 would be picked.
Although, it's also as likely that Unohana would be picked as an interim Head-Captain.
But seeing the mood Kubo is in now, I have completely no idea who might become Head-Captain after this war is over. >.>

Bach wanting to go after Squad 0 is probably because he wants to claim supremacy. Without Squad 0, he probably sees the Royal Guard Spirit King as defenseless.

Sounds about right; especially considering his current short-term goal.

Originally Posted by arceus03

So he can sort of rule the world, so to speak? Generic video game theme, but eh

As far as we know, yes; but that's what most people want anyway.

Originally Posted by arceus03

Spoiler:

I lol'd out loud

Originally Posted by arceus03

Also, a question I've been wondering. For the sake of example, let's say every other Captain come out of the war alive. Who would be the new Head Captain? Either the three senior Captains or maybe a Captain from 0 Division?

Then again, Yama himself founded the Academy and Gotei 13, right?

If I remember right - Ukitake himself said that no one would be able to fill in the role as well as Yamamoto (at the end of the Winter War). Most likely Shunsui I would think; Unohana has to be a healer, and Ukitake is too ill. I don't really see who else it would be I wonder who could replace Golde, hypothetically

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If I remember right - Ukitake himself said that no one would be able to fill in the role as well as Yamamoto (at the end of the Winter War). Most likely Shunsui I would think; Unohana has to be a healer, and Ukitake is too ill. I don't really see who else it would be I wonder who could replace Golde, hypothetically

Spoiler:

Won't happen. Would really destroy all the emotional buildup so far, if it does happen. I mean what he said to Ichigo in this chapter, and all that really sounded like he would die.

Thinking of Akon, and he was referring to breaking Ichigo's jail from the SS side.

Isn't that what -ol mean anyway?

Hm.

Originally Posted by PKMN Trainer Rex

Herro preese. From quizzes to projects, pinched back nerves and haunted house preparations, sh*ts been hectic lately.

Spoiler:

Was that dude that said "...trying to break through..." stuff Akon? And was that other SR guy that "killed him" talking to himself?

So that explosion was Ichigo!? No. Freaking. Way. I would have never have guessed. The sarcasm was a little heavy there.

Won't happen. Would really destroy all the emotional buildup so far, if it does happen. I mean what he said to Ichigo in this chapter, and all that really sounded like he would die.

Thinking of Akon, and he was referring to breaking Ichigo's jail from the SS side.

Spoiler:

Mmm seems like Akon makes sense.

And, well, all I can say is "it's Kubo". At this point he could easily bring them back if he wanted - we thought Byakuya, Rukia and Renji all died when they haven't (yet). I'm willing to bet the same for Kenpachi.
Also what happened to those two shinigami at the beginning of the arc? Who went to the real world before the attempt to steal Ichigo's Bankai.

Originally Posted by Erinmizu

I'd like to join. About to start reading the first volume of the Riruka arc. I have a feeling I'll like her. Her design is very pretty. “Zachiru

Hello and welcome to the Bleach Club 2! I am the Captain of the 12th Squad, I like Pokemon (...) but I also go by ILP/Ilpy/Ilpeh/Ilpizzy/Aielpy/Aaroniero/Anternero/Ant/whatever you want to call me.
So, who are your least/favourite characters? Do you watch the anime at all? Oh, just a note, anything that has happened in the manga but not aired on US tv must be in spoilers (so be careful!)

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I'd like to join. About to start reading the first volume of the Riruka arc. I have a feeling I'll like her. Her design is very pretty. “Zachiru

omgnewmember*pounces*

Hai there. arceus03, Arc for short. 4th Squad Captain avid Unohana fan. Also, I bake cookies virtually
And if you're still somewhere in the Riruka arc, be wary of spoilers. We usually discuss the newest chapters, so yeah. Unless you don't mind being spoilered.

All in all, welcome aboard.

Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)

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And, well, all I can say is "it's Kubo". At this point he could easily bring them back if he wanted - we thought Byakuya, Rukia and Renji all died when they haven't (yet). I'm willing to bet the same for Kenpachi.
Also what happened to those two shinigami at the beginning of the arc? Who went to the real world before the attempt to steal Ichigo's Bankai.

Spoiler:

Yeah, but the emotional buildup was very intense last chapter. Not the stuff he would do if he wants to bring them back. Case in point, Rukia and Renji (and maybe Kenpachi): there wasn't much of, you know, monologue or dying speech or something to that extent with them.

Last time we saw Gin and Tousen die, both were accompanied by flashbacks and whatnot.

Oh those two. Weren't they with the 13th Division earlier? And from what we know of them, Halshvach or whatever his name is, the effeminate guy was with them the last time we saw the Division. I think we can safely assume they were at the very least wiped out, if not dead.

No. It took me a minute to figure out (and then was confirmed by the wiki) that Ichigo appeared right near Akon and Shaz (the Quincy) was introducing himself to Ichigo. Sadly, Shaz came down with a bad case of Getsuga-to-the-Face Syndrome.

Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)

Spoiler:

Also what happened to those two shinigami at the beginning of the arc? Who went to the real world before the attempt to steal Ichigo's Bankai.

Spoiler:

Haschwald (the extremely Bishonen blonde Quincy) destroyed them when he appeared at the Squad 13 barracks.

Originally Posted by Erinmizu

I'd like to join. About to start reading the first volume of the Riruka arc. I have a feeling I'll like her. Her design is very pretty. “Zachiru

Welcome to the club. I'm Kusari: Captain of Squad 13, lovable drunkard and all around badass. Feel free to call me Kusari, Kusa, Kus, Kuskus or (reluctantly do I say this) Kusie.

Spoiler:

On the subject of character death: You guys remember why SS tried to exterminate Quincies in the first place, right? And why Mayuri had to off all of those Rukongai citizens, right?

For those of you that don't remember, it's because Quincies utterly destroy the spiritual beings they kill. That means none of the people who died in the Vandenreich invasion can be brought back through the soul cycle once they die.

Guys, shit just got real.

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Hey, you! Yeah, you! No, not you in front, you there who likes pokémon. Do you like the animé? Do you ever think you'd like to use pokémon and battle like they do in the show?

If only it were. I mean if you want catch off guard, that would be the place to do so.

That is a valid point. I'd add more, but my brains gone kaputz

Originally Posted by Erinmizu

I'd like to join. About to start reading the first volume of the Riruka arc. I have a feeling I'll like her. Her design is very pretty. “Zachiru

Well hello, I'm Rex, Captain of the 8th Squad. I hope you enjoy it here.

Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)

Spoiler:

Also what happened to those two shinigami at the beginning of the arc? Who went to the real world before the attempt to steal Ichigo's Bankai.

Spoiler:

I forgot about those two. I wanna say that they're dead. That new lieutenant guy died not long after his intro, so I'm just gonna assume they suffered a similar fate.

Originally Posted by kusari

Spoiler:

No. It took me a minute to figure out (and then was confirmed by the wiki) that Ichigo appeared right near Akon and Shaz (the Quincy) was introducing himself to Ichigo. Sadly, Shaz came down with a bad case of Getsuga-to-the-Face Syndrome.

Spoiler:

Ok, because those pages confused me and ad no how that connected to anything.

No. It took me a minute to figure out (and then was confirmed by the wiki) that Ichigo appeared right near Akon and Shaz (the Quincy) was introducing himself to Ichigo. Sadly, Shaz came down with a bad case of Getsuga-to-the-Face Syndrome.

For those of you that don't remember, it's because Quincies utterly destroy the spiritual beings they kill. That means none of the people who died in the Vandenreich invasion can be brought back through the soul cycle once they die.

Guys, shit just got real.

(reluctantly do I say this) Kusie.

Spoiler:

Huh. I didn't think of it that way, since Ichigo seemed to appear behind Bach. Idk. Makes sense though.

Don't they do that with their arrows though? So if like in Byakuya's case, where he was killed with his own bankai, would that still count?
Even then, he'd be reincarnated as a new soul with a new memory, so it's still a loss anyway.

Who called you Kusie? XD

Originally Posted by PKMN Trainer Rex

What if I do?
My sh*ts got a wee bit sadder after today.

Spoiler:

If only it were. I mean if you want catch off guard, that would be the place to do so.

That is a valid point. I'd add more, but my brains gone kaputz

I can't understand Python :P
... Which essentially made this one course I'm taking hellish. Homework and assignments... idk how to do them. XD;
Should probably seek help but eh.

What happened?

Yup.

Haha. Beware of zombies. They like kaputz'd brains

Totally unrelated, but just finished watching the last episode of Sherlock. Didn't understand a damn thing >.>

Yeah, but the emotional buildup was very intense last chapter. Not the stuff he would do if he wants to bring them back. Case in point, Rukia and Renji (and maybe Kenpachi): there wasn't much of, you know, monologue or dying speech or something to that extent with them.

Last time we saw Gin and Tousen die, both were accompanied by flashbacks and whatnot.

Oh those two. Weren't they with the 13th Division earlier? And from what we know of them, Halshvach or whatever his name is, the effeminate guy was with them the last time we saw the Division. I think we can safely assume they were at the very least wiped out, if not dead.

Spoiler:

There are quite a few times, I think, when Kubo has played with emotional build-up (or even lack thereof). While it was a while ago, I do remember that Ichigo's main battle with Byakuya in the Soul Sociey arc (I think it was his first time going bankai, too?) had quite an emotional build up with Byakuya and his wife. Then, of course, there's Ulquiorra who had no flashback or anything; just a big fight and a chapter or two talking about the existence of the heart (or something like that). To be honest, I think that if Byakuya was to die, killing him that first time would have been perfect. Having him "just barely hold on long enough to talk to Ichigo" kind of... killed the suspense for me.

Pffft that was a waste.

Originally Posted by kusari

Welcome to the club. I'm Kusari: Captain of Squad 13, lovable drunkard and all around badass. Feel free to call me Kusari, Kusa, Kus, Kuskus or (reluctantly do I say this) Kusie.

Couscous?

Originally Posted by kusari

Spoiler:

On the subject of character death: You guys remember why SS tried to exterminate Quincies in the first place, right? And why Mayuri had to off all of those Rukongai citizens, right?

For those of you that don't remember, it's because Quincies utterly destroy the spiritual beings they kill. That means none of the people who died in the Vandenreich invasion can be brought back through the soul cycle once they die.

Guys, shit just got real.

Spoiler:

I'm just thinking in terms of numbers; but with about 100 members per squad (which sounds kind of reasonable?) plus some extra general kind of people throws the number around 1.5k. So when it comes to the overall affect on soul cycle shouldn't be that much considering literally millions flow through it at any second.

Originally Posted by arceus03

Totally unrelated, but just finished watching the last episode of Sherlock. Didn't understand a damn thing >.>

Welcome to the club, I'll add you on the front page. It's been a while since we've had a new member xD

Spoiler:- Riruka:

Like the Fullbring arc or the part about her specifically? I'm a bit fuzzy on the Fullbrings.

Though I just was looking around BleachWiki, the Fullbring arc looks like it has some really decent animation. I might check it out before it comes to the US.

And yes, of course, I'm still here. Not too much to add as of late.

Spoiler:- Recent Manga:

There's been some really good chapters lately. Not an insane amount of development but definitely action. So glad Yama's dead. Hate him. But I can say it looks like things are gonna get crazy now that Ichigos here and the random lightning has commenced.

EDIT: Forgot how many Spirit class people we have. I'll probably delete them soom and throw off the natural flow of souls

[SPOILER]*I'm just thinking in terms of numbers; but with about 100 members per squad (which sounds kind of reasonable?) plus some extra general kind of people throws the number around 1.5k. So when it comes to the overall affect on soul cycle shouldn't be that much considering literally millions flow through it at any second. [/SPOILER]

And this officially makes Ichigo every other kind of a spiritual being there is to be. Now I anticipate him to develop hairpin powers like Orihime, and it will be complete.

Still waiting for Unohana to show up.

Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)

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To be honest, I think that if Byakuya was to die, killing him that first time would have been perfect. Having him "just barely hold on long enough to talk to Ichigo" kind of... killed the suspense for me.

And this officially makes Ichigo every other kind of a spiritual being there is to be. Now I anticipate him to develop hairpin powers like Orihime, and it will be complete.

Still waiting for Unohana to show up.

Spoiler:

Masaki being a Quincy, of some kind at one point, would make the most sense...with the plot that Kubo has concocted.
But it would be easier for Kubo just to make Ichigo have chameleon/leech/sponge powers that allows him to take on basic abilities of other groups.

Ichigo hasn't become an Arrancar yet. But he technically can't do that.
He also hasn't become a Togabito.
Bounts and Tojū don't count, since they are non-canon.