No, I do not. But, when women have gone out of their way to attack the sexual organ of their mate, there was always an underlying reason. John Bobbit came out as such a nice, caring guy in the days afterward, everybody was on his side. Then as the years passed, along with the short-lived porn career, came the other allegations of domestic violence and sexual abuse from other women. It made me start to wonder, what did he do to her that was so bad she felt a need to hack off his penis and toss it out a window.

Same thing here. Oh, it's a real good chance she could be nuttier that squirrel shit, and I'm not saying he deserved it. I'm just wondering what he might have or have not done to end up on the receiving end of such tragedy.

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That's interesting. Do you normally blame the victim?

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No, I do not. But, when women have gone out of their way to attack the sexual organ of their mate, there was always an underlying reason. John Bobbit came out as such a nice, caring guy in the days afterward, everybody was on his side. Then as the years passed, along with the short-lived porn career, came the other allegations of domestic violence and sexual abuse from other women. It made me start to wonder, what did he do to her that was so bad she felt a need to hack off his penis and toss it out a window.

Same thing here. Oh, it's a real good chance she could be nuttier that squirrel shit, and I'm not saying he deserved it. I'm just wondering what he might have or have not done to end up on the receiving end of such tragedy.

The reason I said that is this: If I read a post here about some guy beating up his wife or SO, I would probably call him a rotten bastard, or something of that kind, as would almost everybody else on the forum. If I were to say something like "I wonder what she did to deserve that," I would be flamed by everybody, and rightly so.

Yet, here we read about a woman inflicting grievous injury on her estranged husband, and you have expressed curiosity as to what he did to merit such a heinous attack, and nobody took you to task for it. I consider this to be a double standard.

We don't know what went before the attack. Maybe he complained about her cooking. Maybe there was nothing then, but there may have been a whole series of wrongs, real or imaginary. Whatever it was, her response was out of proportion.

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That's interesting. Do you normally blame the victim?

The reason I said that is this: If I read a post here about some guy beating up his wife or SO, I would probably call him a rotten bastard, or something of that kind, as would almost everybody else on the forum. If I were to say something like "I wonder what she did to deserve that," I would be flamed by everybody, and rightly so.

Yet, here we read about a woman inflicting grievous injury on her estranged husband, and you have expressed curiosity as to what he did to merit such a heinous attack, and nobody took you to task for it. I consider this to be a double standard.

We don't know what went before the attack. Maybe he complained about her cooking. Maybe there was nothing then, but there may have been a whole series of wrongs, real or imaginary. Whatever it was, her response was out of proportion.

I don't see it as blaming the victim, but as to questioning the circumstances. Maybe my avatar is throwing people off and they assume I'm a female?

No matter how you slice it, the woman was clearly out of her freaking mind. The guy may have been a cheating, wife-beating, baby-eating, murdering, lying bastard. He could have been Adolph Hitler or Osama bin Laden. But that doesn't matter. Nothing gives a woman scorned (nor anybody else) license to cut off a man's penis and grind it up in a garbage disposal. Nothing.

Many men would consider dismemberment of that sort a fate worse than death (myself included). But she went beyond that. Hers was an unthinkable act of sub-animal barbarism so heinous, it is an assault to the conscience of not just men, but to all of humanity. Cruel and unusual punishment has no place in civilized society, and for a very good reason. It's a sickness of excess. It's Caligula and the fall of Rome. Two wrongs may occasionally make a right, but two egregious acts of violence never do.

Never.

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You are absolutely correct, Ben. I didn't mean to imply that he deserved to have his dick severed while drugged out of his mind or that she must have had a good reason to do it, I was just wondering why she would go to that extreme. She should be tossed under the jail, whether it be her husband's dick, or a woman's breasts.

You are absolutely correct, Ben. I didn't mean to imply that he deserved to have his dick severed while drugged out of his mind or that she must have had a good reason to do it, I was just wondering why she would go to that extreme. She should be tossed under the jail, whether it be her husband's dick, or a woman's breasts.

I think I understood your point, and I agree. Why did she think he deserved that? You know, the facts as presented in the Bobbit case suggested that Lorena was in some sort of fugue state when she did it. Didn't they say that she was driving down the road and looked at her hand and oh-my-god-how-did-that-get-there? And she threw it out the window. This other crazy bitch, on the other hand, showed some premeditation. Don't misunderstand me, both acts were unspeakably evil.

I hope that woman goes to the slammer for a very long time. It's unforgivable.
And if I'd been on Lorena's jury, she'd have gone to jail for a long time. 'Not Guilty', my backside !

And attitudes like that are why women in abusive relationships take shit into their own hands. Who else will do it. restraining orders are jokes, and many people even in this day and age 'don't want to get involved.'

Whatever poor John Wayne Bobbit, all that fame (for a little while anyway) before people found out that he really deserved it.

And attitudes like that are why women in abusive relationships take shit into their own hands. Who else will do it. restraining orders are jokes, and many people even in this day and age 'don't want to get involved.'

Whatever poor John Wayne Bobbit, all that fame (for a little while anyway) before people found out that he really deserved it.