On 6/06/2012 gremlin wrote:>Learn to navigate... Why are you out there leaving your rubbish around>to spoil the experience for the next person? Take your rubbish home with>you!>>I for one get great delight handing large balls of tape back to their>owner...

Too right.

I had a great day out once "chopping" the tape trail that was laid by some nob along the cliff top from comic-strip wall to central gully at the mount. It was a beautiful walk (and still is). It was ear marked to be cut and graded as a tourist walking track. I half filled my climbing sack with tape.

Poor old DSE must have blown their whole months budget on tape just to have some scum bag goat peel it all off in a morning....

As it happens Bunnings near me no longer stock surveyors tape, all they had was safety exclusion zone bunting in yellow and black stripes; running two lines of that between the top of star pickets from red rock road all the way to the tower seems a little excessive so it will have to be rock cairns after all.

On 6/06/2012 jimfalla wrote:>I had a great day out once "chopping" the tape trail that was laid by some nob along the cliff top from comic-strip wall to central gully at the mount. It was a beautiful walk (and still is). It was ear marked to be cut and graded as a tourist walking track. I half filled my climbing sack with tape. >>Poor old DSE must have blown their whole months budget on tape just to have some scum bag goat peel it all off in a morning....

As a former site manager I can tell you surveyors tape has a lifespan of 18 months max.
For longer term marking and cheaper, but more of a fiddle, is the tape used to wrap boxes.
Dont use the blue as it is often stolen by birds and fades quickest. The yellow is most uv resistant, is as visible as dogs nuts, lasts for ages. However, dont tie the knots tight as it fractures the coating and will begin to brakdown.
Can find tonnes of it for free in bins and behind factories (and in my area behind all the display warehouses).

I hope this doesn't constitute 'retail spam'; but if you still want some; I run a small kite shop (we use them for tails), and can do flagging tape for $5 a roll (plus $5 post). Orange, Red or Yellow. Kitepower in Geelong.

On 6/06/2012 jimfalla wrote:>On 6/06/2012 gremlin wrote:>>Learn to navigate... Why are you out there leaving your rubbish around>>to spoil the experience for the next person? Take your rubbish home with>>you!>>>>I for one get great delight handing large balls of tape back to their>>owner...>>Too right. >>I had a great day out once "chopping" the tape trail that was laid by>some nob along the cliff top from comic-strip wall to central gully at>the mount. It was a beautiful walk (and still is). It was ear marked to>be cut and graded as a tourist walking track. I half filled my climbing>sack with tape. >>Poor old DSE must have blown their whole months budget on tape just to>have some scum bag goat peel it all off in a morning....>>And I'll do it to the next tape trail I stumble across too.

I don't recall you being such a dick years ago, but you seem to be doing a pretty good job of it now.

On 9/06/2012 stugang wrote:>Simey, tape trail at araps is bullshit. Araps is the kind of place that>if you can't work it out then you just need to stand on tippy-toes to work>it out. >>Why the f--- would anyone would anyone with a positive IQ that knows araps>suggest otherwise.

On 9/06/2012 stugang wrote:>Simey, tape trail at araps is bullshit. Araps is the kind of place that>if you can't work it out then you just need to stand on tippy-toes to work>it out. >>Why the f--- would anyone would anyone with a positive IQ that knows araps>suggest otherwise.

Thrashing through scrub is one thing, creating a quality walking trail is another. Working out the best route for a skyline walk at Arapiles and marking it with trail tape temporarily is probably the best thing environmentally if you want to minimise scrub bashing and any removal of mosses and lichen from the many rock slabs and gullies that are encountered along that section. The intricate nature of the cliff-top running from Colloseum Wall to Central Gully makes route-finding very difficult. It would have required a fair bit of scouting to work out the best trail through much of that region.

As for whether a skyline walk should be established at Arapiles is another topic for discussion. Personally I think it is a lovely walk and the creation of a low key trail along the top of the mountain is a great idea.

Has anyone seen the little reflective discs (smaller than a 10 cent piece) that are thumb tacked down major descents in the Valley? Subtle, stand out plainly in the dark even without a headlamp, visible in daylight as white dot. They take you tree to tree and are placed every 10-20 meters.

On the weekend I went back to an area I marked out with tape about 2 years ago (Sunshine Sunnyside @ New Nowra). I reckon 90% of the tape was gone - most was now on the ground in tiny tattered pieces. So in retrospect I reckon tape marking is a bit of a waste of time if you don't think the track will be heavily beaten into existence (ie if an area involved more than 20 minutes walk-in in NSW!). Rock cairns - or those little reflective discs would be way more permanent.

I wonder where you can get those reflective discs from? The anarchist part of my mind thinks I could make a lot of them from a stolen road sign with the aid of an angle grinder....

oh and I can confirm that Bunnings is removing ALL marking tape! I picked up several rolls for $1 the other day - the entire shelf was on red light closing down one day only clearance sale. So chances are it will all be gone in the next week or so Australia wide if its not gone already.

On 14/06/2012 nmonteith wrote:>I wonder where you can get those reflective discs from? The anarchist>part of my mind thinks I could make a lot of them from a stolen road sign>with the aid of an angle grinder....