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Comment by FISKERQ

Presumedly drops of Illidan, the item was seen by the Magtheridon EU server, but Nihilum has so far said that it has not dropped for them.

Comment by karlthepagan

I'm not sure it's a drop. First, what motive would there be to conceal the drop when others can link it?

Second, as Spinnaay @ mmo-champion suggests - this could be a quest reward. Atiesh, Thunderfury, Sulfuras were all quest rewards.

Finally if a player can observe a weapon which is a quest reward then they shouldn't be disconnected for linking it - so the server should allow it to be linked if it were a reward to a quest which on of the Nihilum members are eligable for!

I think that's the most likely way to acquire the blades. Perhaps both are crafted as part of the same quest chain. So the second blade will only be linkable when that quest is available... perhaps after the first one is finished!

Comment by Haajala

Im still wondering if blizzard really feelt that putting in that class requirement was necessary, cant really see much other options (hunter weapon anyone?) ;P

Comment by Sokkou

it's used in the Illidan fight surely.

Comment by Travins

No, because it would have "Instance, Black Temple" on it if it were similar to the Kael'thas weapons.

Kinda dissapointing that there is one boss left in the content patch. Actually, highly dissapointing.

And I can't spell for pooh.

Comment by GraysonCarlyle

On it's own it would make an excellent hunter weapon, however, it would waste the set. Anyone want to take bets on the off-hand not saying rogue/warrior because hunters can't equip off-hands? :P

Comment by GraysonCarlyle

On a general note, 109.3 dps, as well as the stats on the item are well below the budget of an ilvl 156 legendary, it is in fact budgeted as if it were an epic. I guess in this case the orange name is only to signify its importance.

Comment by ZzaK

"Requires Level 70" - Its not a quest reward.

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Comment by KiLLerS

can agree with that a bit. look at the top damage, a dagger rogue or fury warrior to witch this clearly belongs would drool on this. 398 top damage that's higher than any lvl 60 2h... and is comparable to a lvl 115(lvl 70) blue 2h... and uhm the 2 set bonuses are pretty awesome... could anybody tell me how much 450 haste rating becomes in %?

btw if you have a slow weapon then dps is often low, but i suppose you can compare this with a 115 dps dagger.

and i'm not sure if this is right, but the old one that was shown on thottbot/allakhazam had a fuse type, that was making the main and offhand smelt to gether to one overpowered 1h... so maybe that also possible.

one way or another this weapon should always be legendary or artifact.

and tbh the stats are overpowered but possible for a 156 epic item, with the set bonus it becomes really overpowered.

Comment by Todesbote

11th!

clearly hunter weapon

Comment by Thiefx

So far the stats have not been discovered for the offhand counterpart to this weapon, as trying to do so will disconnect you from the server. This is often the result of the loot-holder not yet being defeated on that specific server.

This could mean the offhand item-Id is incorrect, or the offhand drops from another boss (possibly Archimonde from Hyjal). Even though Archimonde was defeated on PTR, Blizzard could have left the weapon out until official release.

Only time will tell...

Comment by Shaan

this item is used in some way in illidan's encounter (maybe given to Maiev as a proof of demise), probably looted from the "blades of azzinoth" monsters that spawns at some point.it's become available for link on curse's server as well while they were advancing through the combat phases.

more information on this when nihilum or curse feel like giving spoilers on the fight, and that seems like a good explanation of why they did not talk at all about this.

Comment by FISKERQ

Comment by StatiK

It isn't a dagger so how could a dagger rogue benefit from it? Clearly combat sword. Can't wait to see the Offhand.

Comment by sueyed

There is most likely a certain requirement that needs to be filled in order for the drop to actually register to a member of the raid, somewhat like a quest item.What it is I do not know, but I'm pretty sure the server registered the item as "dropping", but noone could see it.

I highly doubt an item like this would just "drop" anyway ;)

Comment by Dirkin

Sulfuras has a required level (60), and it's certainly not a flat drop.

Comment by Salient

450 haste would be in the region of 35-40 %... i think

Comment by Torey

''Classes: Warrior, Rogue'' <- Hunter? w0w0w000t?

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Comment by Daklord

GM Item?? or it will pwn for a rouge..

Comment by Drafalia

well, as stated before, this item is better labeled as "Epic" for it's qualities. But as it's one of the most well-known weapons, it's understandable to label it as "Legendary", though i belive it would be better off as an "Artifact" (red colour) due to it's great importance.

anyway, what suprised me here is that this was under the loottable of what i assume is illidan's. now why is'nt the other warglaive there too? was the loottable not containing all of the items he can drop or is there another, hidden boss holding the other glaive?

Comment by mindphlux

Wowhead doesn't know the loottables without user submission, so even if Illidan dropped this part, nobody can know if he drops the other as well unless someone actually loots it and submits the data to Wowhead as well.

Comment by Ansi

This weapon is used by an NPC during the Illidan encounter. As soon as someone engages Illidan, this item ID becomes available to the server, and can therefore be linked.

Blizzard introduced a system a few patches ago, that would make your client crash, if you tried to link an item that did not exist. Items do not "exist" untill they have been "revealed", in same terms as this one. You can bring the ID to other servers during crossrealm battlegrounds by linking the item, wich some people are likely to experience soon.

About the item; Legendaries has always been bound to quests and lore, and it is highly unlikely that one encounter just drops the item. It is however, very plausible that these Warglaive of Azzinoth are available in the game if you take into consideration how Blizzard advertized The Burning Crusade.

Perhaps the second blade is related to Archimonde.

Comment by ErOzIoN

Do we really still need those useless class limits?

Comment by thebrassthief

Yes. Yes we do.

Comment by Carkasjak

hunter item

Comment by etspiritus

The second blade being related to archimonde wouldnt make any sense ... Ever.

Comment by Aelit

ilvl statistics are an estimate of the actual level of the item, if it was a basic white item, as a rough description. An artifact with an ilvl of 100 for example, would be considered equivalent to an epic, or blue, with the same ilvl. If you look, the ilvl of this weapon, if quite some way above that of the ilvl of the tier 6, and I'd say that the large difference in DPS, and the set bonus, definately makes this a powerful weapon.

Comment by Mblast

For those wondering whether or not this is available, a good indication that it exists for players to gain is the class requirement on it. There would be no reason to put that in unless they plan on letting players obtain it.

Comment by Skater

mmo-champoins found the explanation , curse is on illidan atm , they didn't kill him yet , but the MH warglave is linkable on they're realm (they are on a different battlegroup from nihilum ,so no cross-realm BG link was possible ) so its now safe to say that no one has the legendary sword yet :)

Comment by devnull17

That's not entirely true. The iLvl and budgeting are determined by Blizzard, and the number is available to Addons in-game. It's not a player-created statistic, and it's not really an estimate of anything, either.

Comment by ilovemrdoe

Parent comment from etspiritus is correct, think before you mod comments down please.

Comment by Hunterz

As said before I highly doubt that this item will just drop from killing Illidan especially since it is a Legendary item... All Legendary items pre-BC required a quest..Blizzard wouldnt just put a weapon like this to just drop of a boss no matter who the boss is.

Comment by Taemojitsu

How do quests work? Can a quest reward be linked before anyone even gets the quest? Could it be that the reason it's now linkable is that someone in Nihilum STARTED the questline that gives you this weapon?

Comment by Marema

It is also possible, though very unlikely, that this item has a small drop rate and they just got extremely lucky.

Comment by Kranchie

Well keep in mind it isnt all about the dps the weapon have. I mean TF only got 53 dps 2 more then brutality blade but the procc made it unique. So if the procc rate on the two set bonus is ok those weapons are insane.

Comment by Khane

This weapon is used by an NPC during the Illidan encounter. As soon as someone engages Illidan, this item ID becomes available to the server, and can therefore be linked.

Blizzard introduced a system a few patches ago, that would make your client crash, if you tried to link an item that did not exist. Items do not "exist" untill they have been "revealed", in same terms as this one. You can bring the ID to other servers during crossrealm battlegrounds by linking the item, wich some people are likely to experience soon.

About the item; Legendaries has always been bound to quests and lore, and it is highly unlikely that one encounter just drops the item. It is however, very plausible that these Warglaive of Azzinoth are available in the game if you take into consideration how Blizzard advertized The Burning Crusade.

Perhaps the second blade is related to Archimonde.

Comment by mansun

want to fack Jun Zhu

Comment by Xindan

Per http://www.wowwiki.com/Blades_of_Azzinoth and other lore sources (namely the RPG books), it appears that this is one of the twin Blades of Azzinoth; weapons that Illidan looted from the corpse of the demon Azzinoth during the War of the Ancients. I highly doubt Archimonde or Hyjal relates to the other item.

Comment by skymasta

Well there was a legendary necklace that dropped in MC.... but it was taken out of the game.

Comment by Apfel

Hunter wep, definatly

Comment by Xxkilla

rofl no hunter should take this over a rogue, hunters should get any kind of sword, dagger, hand weapon, OR ANYTHING, that is up and close combat that a rogue can use unless the rogue has it or doesnt need it, all hunters should get is a rlly cool bow or gun and a two handed something or other, but this is defiantly a rogue weapon

Comment by Khane

This weapon is used by an NPC during the Illidan encounter. As soon as someone engages Illidan, this item ID becomes available to the server, and can therefore be linked.

Blizzard introduced a system a few patches ago, that would make your client crash, if you tried to link an item that did not exist. Items do not "exist" untill they have been "revealed", in same terms as this one. You can bring the ID to other servers during crossrealm battlegrounds by linking the item, wich some people are likely to experience soon.

About the item; Legendaries has always been bound to quests and lore, and it is highly unlikely that one encounter just drops the item. It is however, very plausible that these Warglaive of Azzinoth are available in the game if you take into consideration how Blizzard advertized The Burning Crusade.

Perhaps the second blade is related to Archimonde.

This weapon is used by an NPC during the Illidan encounter. As soon as someone engages Illidan, this item ID becomes available to the server, and can therefore be linked.

Blizzard introduced a system a few patches ago, that would make your client crash, if you tried to link an item that did not exist. Items do not "exist" untill they have been "revealed", in same terms as this one. You can bring the ID to other servers during crossrealm battlegrounds by linking the item, wich some people are likely to experience soon.

About the item; Legendaries has always been bound to quests and lore, and it is highly unlikely that one encounter just drops the item. It is however, very plausible that these Warglaive of Azzinoth are available in the game if you take into consideration how Blizzard advertized The Burning Crusade.

Perhaps the second blade is related to Archimonde.This weapon is used by an NPC during the Illidan encounter. As soon as someone engages Illidan, this item ID becomes available to the server, and can therefore be linked.

Blizzard introduced a system a few patches ago, that would make your client crash, if you tried to link an item that did not exist. Items do not "exist" untill they have been "revealed", in same terms as this one. You can bring the ID to other servers during crossrealm battlegrounds by linking the item, wich some people are likely to experience soon.

About the item; Legendaries has always been bound to quests and lore, and it is highly unlikely that one encounter just drops the item. It is however, very plausible that these Warglaive of Azzinoth are available in the game if you take into consideration how Blizzard advertized The Burning Crusade.

Perhaps the second blade is related to Archimonde.

Comment by Bulzan

I would think that the reason why you can link the weapon on the server is that Blizzard has already had it ready to go to players and are at the moment working on the quest they're gonna put in game for the swords.They didn't thougt that Illidan would fall in front of players in such short time so they maybe said to themselves :"What's wrong by putting the sword on the database, if they are gonna put as long as they did for KT or C'thun and that in the time they arrive in front of Illidan, the quest will be finished and put in game".I might surely be wrong but it's just a theory that I had among many others.(p.s.: Sorry if my english is bad :( )

Comment by UrsineWrath

I know why a class restriction was put on this , it was to stop hunters , that must be true cuz many of you already went like "OMG hunter wep" some dumb hunter put hunter wep on Zhar'doom , Great staff of the devourer...why does a hunter need that...they aren't "true casters" yeah for like one move....I think blizzard put a class restriction on this wep to teach you hunters a big fat lesson for heck. someone put "OMG Hunter wep" on hammer of naaru and hunters can't even equip 2hand maces so WTF

O yeah...this would pwn for my fury warrior and it pwns for combat rogues but they deserve this since they dont go "OMG warrior or rogue wep"hunters watch the thing on veoh on "That''s the world of warcraft we play" it got a good statement u should all know

Comment by Shrek

I just want to say : "Hello World"

kk thanks :)

Comment by InTanGiblePho

Not sure if anyone has reported this yet, butThis item does not appear on Blizz's own & new item database.

Comment by Pooslavemaster

109.3 DPS is pretty damn good, level 70 epics that are 2-hands range from 115-120 so 109.3 on a ONE HAND is pretty good, and that's why it's legendary. (it also looks really cool :)

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Comment by FISKERQ

No, The way the Blizzard Armory works prevents it from being shown, even if it had dropped for a player, the same reason why items like Tier 5 and similar are not viewable from the armory.

Comment by Ecrazion

Any one want to tell me why hunters are screwed out of these weapons... y not have all 3 classes that can dw swords able 2 use... these weapons make more sense for rogues and hunters personally but i think all 3 classes should be able 2 use them or blizzard actually try hard enough 2 make a new weapon class (Glaive) actually and new animation and seriously rethink there melee combat system... 5yrds not a chance in the world hell 10ft is a huge strecth...

Comment by Gracewarsong

removed, refer to the post from FISKERQ

Comment by Winrar

hmm this is stupid I also added a few scrn shots but they aint here ffs

Comment by Sasso

id hate to say this is a fury warrior weapon. rogues have backstab for a reason!

Comment by radeox

Nihilum commented it had not dropped but because of a step of the encounter they were able to find the item ID. He drops his sword and the NPC picks it up. Still speculation on how you come across these weapons.

Comment by Gonaho

Don't be an ignorant douche. The restrictions make perfect sense, those are the only 2 classes that would ever get dibs for these swords anyway. Ignorant night elf hunters need to get bent.

Comment by Pirotess

He means that there wouldn't be class restrictions if the item was not meant to be available to players. Way to make an ass out of yourself.

Comment by exhume

The class limitation makes it appear as though the item will actaully be obtainable sometime in the future. However, look at all the previous epics. Thunderfury, Atiesh, Sulf all required multiple low drop rates in multiple instances, plus a large investment of gold, further quests to put all the pieces together, etc etc. I find it highly unlikely that this weapon simply has a very low drop rate off Illidan.

Comment by vecdran

For those of you with wowmodelviewer, here are the itemids you add to your items.csv file.

Comment by Tipme

Does anyone know how you swing these swords with both equipped? Is there an animation out there?It would be cool if there were a unique custom animation when weilding both these swords like the warcraft 3 Demon hunter,

Comment by Kalx

It's kinda sad to see such an legendary selling for 24g in a vendor.imo, legendaries could not be sold, what's the point of that?completely unnecessary thing from blizzard...because a legendary with so much lore around it should be sold for a price that nobody can pay (although vendors have "infinite" gold)just think about how much costs the mats for thunderfury and sulfuras...oh well..

Comment by Meltdown

Concerning the "low stats for lvl 70 legendary" discussion:

The color of an item determines mainly its rarity, not the amount of stats it has.

Compare for example Sulfuras and Might of Menethil. Menethil has higher stats, even though its only epic, because it has a higher iLvl. Sulfuras has legendary quality because the amount of effort required to get this weapon is much larger. Therefore less players will be able to get legendary weapons than epics. You would need at least 8 weeks worth of Golemagg kills to get the ingots for sulfuras, whereas you could drop 8x Menethil in the same time. (I'm not saying that killing Kelthuzad is as easy as Ragnaros, but thats not the point here. If you got an instance on farm status, you can farm epics much faster than you can farm legendaries.)

However its true that a legendary will have a higher stats budget than an epic of the same iLvl.

Comment by BlackFire

As hunter myself and a damn good one if I may say so.This is a Rouge/Warrior weapon, I would'nt want this weapon as a hunter. Stats are nice but manly because it dosen't proc from range, also I would love being on ANY warrior/rouge's team who carry both Warglaive's. Keeps the aggro off me so I can misdirect, CRIT my ass off, drop aggro, crowd control if needed. In other words, buying me time to dig in my nasty ass bag of hunter trick, so I can better play my role as support . Now if http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18584 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18583 were real. I would say Hunter all the way, like Blizz would ever show hunters that much love. I remember I heard Bilzz was going to give hunters 2 pets in BM tier. Hahahahaha, yeah right. Gratz to ANY Warrior or Rouge who obtain the glaive's.

Comment by Phubu

Updated to reflect haste rating changes in patch 2.2:

Percent Haste Modifiers are multiplicative, and Haste Rating is summed then converted into a percent then multiplied by the other percent modifiers.

Slice and Dice (+30%) and Warglaive Set Proc (+450 rating) on the main hand Warglaive (2.8 speed):

ows = 2.8m1 = 30% (Slice and Dice)HR = 450HRC = 15.6

hm = (1 + (30/100)) * (1 + ((450/15.8)/100)) ~ 1.68

nws = ows / hm = 2.8 / 1.68 ~ 1.67

So the main hand Warglaive goes from 2.8 to 1.67 (+67% attack speed) speed with Slice and Dice and the set proc.

If you had the Abacus bonus on as well then HR = (450 + 260), and performing the calculation again yields ~1.49 effective speed.

Comment by AuroraFlash

In the end, you can only say that it is a difference if you see a single item with its value or you see a set item. A set item always provides a set bonus and a set bonus is something you only acquire by wearing or wielding more than one item. If the set bonus is good, it maybe does not raise a single item's value, but it dramatically raises the value of the item combination and that's the deal.

Comment by diSiozi0

Really guys u are fucking retards. Who cares for the fucking dps on bosses if he has these sword. The only thing that i m thinking to do if i have these swords is P00ning pve realmers like u ! NOOBS! L2P KKTHNXBYE

Comment by KiLLerS

can't agree more and 42% haste rating, is pretty legendary in my eye's wowhead says the proc is 100% but since nobody has it yet, we dont know for sure, but come on.. if it has a 10% proc, it would still be up for 90% of the time.

Comment by CHNVL

I'm a warrior .but i'd rather like the Main hand speed must be 1.4 too.For the HS ability can only improves the DPH not DPS.and FLURRY talent can reduce the time for strike recovery.

Comment by d357r0y3r

It would honestly be a shame for this to go to a warrior over a rogue.

Comment by Jarad

Or maybe ur character will just ignore the twin blades and fight as if it's a single bladed.... u wud hardly tell the diffrence as considering the size, both blades will in the end hit ur target....

Wonder how it wud look when sheated!

Comment by Jarad

Hell no! I'm a rogue and I love slow main hands!it gives immense instant skills like SS, Hemo and Ghostly S I've seen my SS outdmg an ambush! although I critted and the ambush didn't ^^;

Comment by Jarad

Just imagine a stun-lock rogue wielding these with mongoose enchant and at least 2 pieces of assasination armor...u'd have haste boosts half the time!at least... if the haste boost of this set has a decent proc that is <_<but still ^^try'n survive those first 10 seconds! :pI know I'm in love :D <3<3<3

Comment by Felheim

Go back to Thottbot please. Thanks.

Comment by Calminaion

Please elaborate... I would understand that comment if this was a dagger - but this is every bit as much a Fury warrior MH weapon as it is Rogues...

It's a fair roll (if indeed it is a rolled on item) ... my guess is that it'll be something you need to work on, similar to QS.

Comment by eldorian

If you were a rogue using these 2 stunlock and you were wearing 2 pieces of dungeon set 3 i would /lol at you. Now go hang your head in shame and disappear.

Comment by devnull17

Given two similar items of the same iLvl, one epic and one legendary, the legendary will always have higher stats. The fact that legendaries are harder to come by is incidental. Items are given a certain budget by rarity (or color, if you prefer) and item level. It's as simple as that.

Comment by TheRaven

This is equally sueful for a rogue and fury warrior. Saying its better for one over the other is pure childishness."but i get more use because of the Ss damage" Is a common rogue argument i see. Look at it this way. Whilst your doing more with your SS with 450haste (41% attack speed increase from memory) stacked with 30% from flurry (perma flurry by this stage) thats a 71% attack speed boost for a fury watrrior. or, a full rage bar in 4 seconds. A warrior would get .8speed main hand pre abacus of violent odds or pre dragon spine trophy proc. thats a heroic strike every .8seconds which equates to a hell of alot of damage, mixed in witht he large damage whirlwinds and blood thirsts. not to mention the White damage (main source of fury dps) a warrior could pump out with the hasted effect (.8main .5 OH) would be off the charts. In fact after the 10 second burn a back down of damage would probally be needed to reduce threat.

No matter what class this goes to, the damage would be off the charts. And to those who say "this goes to this class 1st!!!" your arguments are pointless since 3/4 of you probally wont ever get the oportunity to see the weapons anyhow.

Comment by exhume

... you do realize that rogues have SnD, right? So a rogue and a fury war would have the same base attack speed...

Comment by Firesin

I love how a legendary hits the game and everyone is ALL UP ONS!

Comment by GraysonCarlyle

Just want to make a note that the post devnull is replying to has been deleted. Alone, his post has lost its context.

Comment by azwraiths

haste rating does stack so if u have a d3 rogue asssination set equiped with slice and dice on and Abacus of Violent Odd and dragon spine trophy and this two blades on your attack speed would become retardedly low.. i used blackout truncheon with the d3 rogue set with slice and dice alone and my mainhand attack speed became 0.87 considering the haste from the mace , the rogue d3 set and slice and dice is on. I wonder what would happen with 2 haste trinkets , (Abacus of Violent Odds) (dragonspine trophy) , the twin blades and the assassination d3 rogue set on and everything proc while u use slice and dice, toss in mongoose enchant and blade flurry for combat sword rogue specced with windfury on the weapons AND berserking ... let the damage fly haha

Comment by Endersion

Hmm so no one knows or has any idea whatsoever as to how either of these weapons could be obtained?

Comment by Shriukan

I agree with all of that. If the weapons themselves were a drop from Illidan it would most likely be epic rather than legendary.

Like all the other legendaries, which were obtained from quests, or a low drop rate item that starts a quest, this item is "probably" a quest-attained item. From looking at the item, it seems to be from a quest. A quest that is warrior and rogue do-able obviously. I think it is similar to the Thunderfury quest. At first look you might be reminded of the Quel'Serrar Quest Chain, which was only used by Warriors and Paladins. Since this is a legendary i think it will be more of a "thunderfury" like chain if not like the Sulfuras or Atiesh chains. Who knows, Blizzard could do a new thing and make this a drop off of Illidan.

*Most information stated is only hypothetical. Don't get too excited. My idiotic self thought the "tan lettered" one was the actual weapon and when I saw the legendary one I said, "That looks more like the actual thing."

Comment by bigredhutnar

it is presumed that these drop from the deceiver himself but the stats where obtained via data-mining so there is no real way to confirm till a top guild has it as a recorded drop

Comment by pinch999

This would go to a raiding Rogue first, because any high end raiding guild knows that haste is a Rogue's best stat (combat potency procs and white damage are what drive Rogue damage). Fury warriors have full rage bars all the time anyways.

Like you said, Warriors have no way of controlling their aggro, which could lead to bad things happening if they got tons of haste procs in a row and were spamming rage / white damage.

Comment by Naferius

Good point, it doess look pretty crappy stats to be a lvl 70 legendary that would come from BT

Comment by 0eyvind

The color of the name of items, is to show the rarity of the item. U see? The stats dont make a weap legendary.

Comment by Golmadin

Dropped for forte on Kazzak EU, sunday the 24th June 2007Rogue named Celaila got it.

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Comment by Xebtria

gratz for "stealing" the pic from mmo. nevertheless, you're correct in what you're saying...

Comment by Messor

Please guys... Get a clue before posting bullshit like that...Ansi ain't correct in what he is saying even that xebtria confirmed it...This is 2nd non quest-related legendary drop so far... First one was legendary neck from Baron Geddon for Nurfed guild...

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Comment by Xebtria

This item was removed from the game's loot tables after the loot in MC was completely redone.

well, it's a loooooong time ago, that that necklace was a common loot, so i would call the warglaives the only regular non-quest-related legendary at the time. if you want to be a nitpicker, than it's really the 2nd :D (and 3rd, of course :>)

Comment by txhxc

actually you're all wrong. It's the 3rd/4th. The 1st being the necklace, the 2nd being the phoenix mount off of KT.

You could even start going outside of the term "quest related" and say every weapon in the KT encounter as well. Also you could say the Stratholme weapon from the Atiesh quest chain. But again... thats going outside the boundaries.

Either way, its the 3rd/4th.

P.s. The necklace was not a "common loot". Only one person got it ever. The second it dropped it was immediately taken out, and the person who did recieve it was allowed to keep it.

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apart fro, the ones in TK that u cant use out of TK

Comment by waster94

Celalia won this drop on Kazzak (EU). guild is <Forte>

Comment by kirby92

As you all see it did not drop for Nihilum but it dropped for Forte which is obviously because its legendary and the drop rate isn't very high so good luck everyone in getting one of the Warglaives of Azzinoth or hopefully both.

Comment by Cryptorchild

You can almost be assured though that these will come from a legendary quest like all the other legendaries (that are worth a damn). The ilvl is pretty accurate seeing as you get twin 109.5 dps weapons with a straight up AP gain on demons and rather large haste proc. You also don't know how much that proc will go off, but knowing legendaries so far, it is likely to be high enough to keep the proc going after the first proc.

Comment by Eeolya

... Cut it with the crap numbers. Everyone (I hope) is smart enough to know that these weapons Shred to pieces any weapon "similar" to them even more if you possess both .. The haste rating makes comparisons stupid ... As for the speed of the weapon ... Best Main hand there is in Burning crusade if you only consider the "Speed" aspect (anyhow it's the best mainhand). What I deeply enjoy is "Warrior-Rogue" meaning stupid hunters or paladins can't roll on this (if your guild has gone this far you shouldn't have any of the two in your raids though ...). So people Good luck in your gaming (hopefully f***ing Illidan someday)and have fun! It's a game enjoy it!

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Comment by Flyingjinko

If you watch carefully these aren't Illidan blades... when you play WC3 you can see thers a panda face on one of the side of his blades.

Comment by kirby92

Those ARE Illidan's blades because they are the same as the ones he is using in the fight inside the Black Temple,Blizzard may have changed how they look because the ones in WC3 are the old Artifact versions of these glaives that GMs use.

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Comment by Hesa

As a Hemo Rogue I am very sad to say this is the only weapon that is slower than 2.7 in entire wow (for lvl 70 ofc).

We really don't see much slow weapons anymore like in the oldies (remember the High Warlord's Blade @ 2,9 speed imba Hemo sword).

Nowerdays this is the one, and for most of the rogues impossible to get.

Comment by Silvie

Dropped for Method of Sylvanas-EU at 15/7/07Rogue named Zeuzo got it

Comment by Invidius

Apparently dropped for a guild on Mal'Ganis Horde side (North America) - July 15, 2007.

Comment by Cryptorchild

Someone on that awful server actually downed Illidan? Mind blowing.

Comment by rold

It Dropped for Aurora on 7/15/2007. Zerix has it. It is odd that it does not show in armory thought.

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thx i thought so but a guildie keeps arguing with me saying its fight onlythx for the info

Comment by sneakypeter

ok guys where can i find these bad muthers at what city town place instance where i want these!!!!!!

Comment by paladrood

The fearsome demon called Azzinoth was a doomguard commander of the Burning Legion during the War of the Ancients before the Great Sundering. He met his end, however, when he came upon Illidan Stormrage.

Illidan slew Azzinoth, and took his weapons, a pair of vicious warglaives called the Blades of Azzinoth. Over the millennia, Illidan grew more and more adept with the demonic weapons, and likely became more proficient with them than their original owner. He carries them still.MoM 172

Azzinoth is referenced in the RPG and on the World of Warcraft website (in regards to the Blades that once belonged to him). The event is an extension to the events of the War of the Ancients, and is not mentioned in other accounts of the War.

(copied from WoWWiki.com)

Comment by ilovegirlz

The guild Forte currently has two of the MH warglaives. The first one is with Celalia, the second is on their warrior Anise.

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Comment by morzar

You're wrong haste rating increases ur attack speed by the % that the number shows therefore 410 haste rating = 410% speed increase my dad told me so back off also movement speed to also i asked my math teacher what haste rating was and he said it was communist mathematics so i shouldn't play wow so i hate all wow players leave me alone.

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Comment by wookiehugger

seriously, who in their right mind would even come across the thought of disenchanting this...

Comment by wookiehugger

holy poop, the guy Furi duel wields the blades, he would pwn in pvp. i cant believe that both of these would drop in one kill of illidan...

Comment by RabidHampster

ok. we all KNOW that Illidan was a melee hunter, end of story. Its widely known that a hero class will be the melee hunter, aka, demon hunter.

Comment by VoidDragon

Demon hunters aren't actual hunters at all. They're 'hunters' in the same sense that a paladin hunts undead. They're more like a magical rogue, in a sense. They melee and become more demonic as they grow stronger. Illidan himself was more like a mage before everything else.

If they do ever bring the Demon Hunter class to WoW, you'll never touch a bow, come close to having a pet, or even track anything other than demons.

If you really want to know about Illidan, read the War of the Ancients Trilogy. If you want to know more about Demon Hunters, page through the World of Warcraft RPG: Alliance Player's Guide.

Comment by Endlesszilch

Does anyone know if Mainhand has dropped lately?

ever since the first offhand dropped, I haven't hear anything about Mainhand dropping but offhands keeps dropping now

Anyone can confirm that?

Comment by Aiurr

Esdue from Forlorn Legacy on Windrunner has just obtained the Main Hand on August 18, 2007

Comment by Ruix

wow so far 2 blades has dropped for Forte guild?!? I am referring to the picture.

Comment by zerenity

Yes so far only 2 Main hand has dropped not off hand have dropped for forte Anise(warrior) and Celaila( rogue ) got it

Comment by GabbeSWE

Thats Wep is too nice!!!

Comment by CrazyTurk

Well,I can't pull up the armory to see him wielding both the main and the off hand, but one thing I find perculiar is that looking at the picture you posted with Furi holding them, and the item discriptions... Warriro / Rogue and Offhand are in red which would indicate whom ever pulled up the discriptions was not the wielder of the blades, and why is the set bonus not lit up?

just a food for thought

Comment by Mala09

Oh Celalia got both now it just doesnt say it in her off hand but she has the set bonus and all.Also Anise doesnt use hers.

Comment by Yakuzak47

Furi from the server Illidan (US) and from the guild <Blood Legion> has had both Warglaives for a while now, along with full Tier 6, full Season 2 and all of his arena teams in the +2000 rating.

Comment by batamisa

Too bad that its only for Warriors and Rogue i kill him with my hunter i took the bow but this gives agility for a hunter

Comment by squirrelybread

Is it just me, or does 6% drop rate sound ridiculously high for this item? Shouldn't it be less than 2%?

Comment by darkkeijp

I wonder if arthas will drop frostmourne

Comment by Killamain

while this is true, you should keep in mind that all information on wowhead is user submitted, which means that either people are just messing around and saying that they have had the warglaive drop for them or that out of the 120 people that have looted Illidan, the 7 claiming to have it drop could've all been in the same raid

Comment by Sgtown

no. all wowhead information is not player submitted, it's recorded by a mod in game, which you then upload to the website.

Comment by molle4

a guy on Hellscream (EU) mght have these. I,m not sure but they where linked in my guild

Comment by Avor

These should be bigger IMO.

Comment by beretta

As someone who has a hand of Ragnaros, I just want to say I do not think this weapon should be of Legendary (Orange) quality.The Hand of Rag, Staff of Ateish, and the Thunderfury sword all take a tremendous amount of resources to create, which must be built up over a long period of time.

This, though a rare drop... is the weapon. This sword is like Hand of Rag dropping instead of the eye of sulfuras... But with other legendaries, you needed multiple, extremely rare items to drop (eye of sulfuras, 8 sulfuron ingots anyone?, not to mention another and a weaponsmith just to be able to craft it)............. this is just a drop. Nothing more to it then a random boss drop, just a lower drop rate.

Dunno, just stating my opinion, if it isnt diffucult to get, just a random boss drop and takes nothing to make it, no time invested to craft it, it shouldnt be a legendary.

Comment by Kuai

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

Comment by RobFaeth

Thought it doesn't follow the rules that have been previously established for legendary weapons, the weapon certainly qualifies as legendary, especially when you get the set. Its abilities make these items a far cut above the rest -- and that is the point of "legendary," not the way that you acquire the weapon.

Comment by RobFaeth

Incorrect -- he was one of the Quel'Dorei (or high-born), i.e., a mage.

This is in reference to what looks like a now deleted claim that Illidain was a druid. I'm not at all refuting the fact that he's a melee fighter -- and looking at the ability sets, in the game he's more of a "fury warrior/destro lock" combination. Immolate comes from him initially, and he's the first truly bad-ass guy you see swinging two blades around.

Comment by ledann

well in my opinion the colour of the weapon doesn't matter. Illidan is a famous wow character and a important person in the wow history, so were Ragnaros, Thunderan and kel'thuzad. so a legend holds a legendary item ^^

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The proc rate has been found to be roughly .75ppm or around 2% per swing and it has no internal cooldown. As stated above, the proc effect looks like activating Slice and Dice. Buff is called The Twin Blades of Azzinoth and it shares a buff icon with the Mark of the Illidari. Estimated AEP value of 300 and the general feeling is my damage has increased by about the same margin as having an extra (pre-nerf) Dragonspine Trophy.

Comment by Lesane

Has an internal cooldown of 45s on the 2.3 PTR right now.

Comment by Bloodcrusher

This 2 blades have a percent of drop that's low(3-14%),for this aren't a lot of guys with this weapons....but i'm a pally and i can't use those:-(

Comment by RdRdGhD

The Warglaives themselves can drop without replacing Illidan's original loot seed, so to say, he can drop a weapon related item, a gear piece related item, the 2 chestpieces, and a warglaive, or even 2 glaives. For my guild, we've killed him 6 times, and out of those 3, we've gotten glaives, so were pretty lucky. =P

Comment by coffa

how do i get this whid out kill illidan ? whats the commands ?

Comment by Squirldude

Did they change the graphic? My Modelviewer one is dif. than the screenshot+linked images... also, they sheath in the wrong places...

Comment by slobfriend

This is the biggest awesommest phallus to swing around eva.

Comment by wowzers123

These are obviously the best rouge/warrior weps in the game right now

Comment by darkyoshi87

Any Warriors have this yet?

Comment by Ntieoen

after several hundred runs on my rogue, I got both,if anyone else manages to get both, do not advertise that you want enchants on them,you will get spammed with tells from lowbies asking for runs through whatever instance,in full tier 6 + these, nearly every mob is soloable, I can only imagine how a warrior feels weilding them

Comment by vexis58

I would hope that with a guild capable of killing Illidan enough times to get both of them, you'd have enough enchanters in-guild that you wouldn't have to spam the trade channel to get them enchanted :)

EDIT: Several hundred runs? How is that possible? Black Temple only resets once a week, doesn't it?

Comment by desjesse

Just for a question did they change the attack action of these because they're double sided?

Comment by InfinityX

No, the animations perform just as if you were holding a sword. It still looks good on the vast majority of races.

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Comment by Andoran

Hunter Weapon hands down.

Comment by joelsfallon

Warglaive of Azzinoth is a legendary one-handed sword that drops from Illidan Stormrage at the Black Temple in Shadowmoon Valley. Warglaive of Azzinoth is part of a two piece set. The world's first main-hand Warglaive of Azzinoth dropped for Forte's Celalia, a rogue. The off-hand sword that complements this also drops from Illidan.

Comment by Neopolis

Did anyone notice that the panda emblem on them is missing? I remember in Warcraft 3, these had panda heads on them.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Comment by buddychrist

those items are nice

Comment by tutubela44

due its cool item!

Comment by Xyronflare

I have thought a lot about the class restriction of these warglaives. Understanding that warriors and rogues could use them, I still have the feeling that hunters should have been able to. If we think about Illidan as a survival hunter (we all remember "feign death" when Arthas' encounter, with this hypothese, of course) there shouldn't be much problem about it.

Sure it would be strange to see an enhancement shaman with the warglaives, but it's a possibility.

Comment by Gonzobonzozo

N!ggers stole my sword.

Comment by snakeeater

The best weapons to have in the game i say. And once it has a good enchantment you should be nearly unstoppable.

Comment by Gonzobonzozo

Also: Naxxramas was introduced not too long before TBC was. Prior to the newer instances, HoR was the best 2h in the game.

Comment by dakurus

right after that he left his guild as shown in the picture (guildless) =P

Comment by CuteethKazzak

Im a rogue and i got the main and off hand warglaive of azzinoth but i realise that it was a big mistake warriors should get those swords. greedy rogues dont need just because its legendary. i like the swords because when i go to a big city like orgrimmar i get alot attention all ppls look at me and whisper me but still rogues should pass and let warriors get them first.

Name Cuteeth server Kazzak. Horde

Comment by Rasztra

I'm guessing you're a warrior writing this...

Comment by MikeB

Do you have any reason to say this?

As a warrior myself I say let the rogues have em, I'mm staying the specc we where ment to be. Prot.

Comment by Azerius

Warriors are not just meant to be Prot Specced.there are a Whole 2 OTHER talent trees we have you know......And seriously, the thing about the glave is that ALL spec's of rogues would love to use them both, but only a Fury War would get the most benifit out of using both of them, as such i sway towards saying let rogues have slight bias to these, but dont discount warriors compleatly

Comment by Umbriodrago

are you retarded?

rogues out dps fury warriors on a daily basis. look at it this way, if a rogue could tank, he would probably be forced to tank. If you dont like what the guild needs then you wont go to the raid... But we rogues dont have that spec. So that leaves it to pallies and Warriors to tank (as yall are the only ones who can wear plate) also, a rogue could get much more dps output with these than a fury warrior. Im NOT saying that a warrior couldnt have these, just that priority should go to a rogue.

Comment by byteme

youre the retarded one if you cant comprehend that rogues and warriors are equal in dps output if they have the best possible gear. rogues do more dps than warrs on some bosses and vice versa. it states warrior,rogue. both have same right to have it.

Comment by eskapade

The only thing that's retarded is your way of arguing, boys. Please stop it.

Comment by darkheart

damn my father gave me that one

Comment by NeoBlackheart

I have both of these on my rogue and when I have everthing proced and done I actually looked at the speedx is around 1.15 this is with all abilites used and all procs from items currently equiped.

Comment by Cr00xY

as usually blizz *!@#s everything up, so ofc they did the same here

besides 2 legendary wpns are drops and even from the same boss (not created, Q reward after long chain or whatever, but drop ffs) they look awfull (like tbh most of the drops in outland, items are either copied with diferent colour or look totally ugly and not fiting in da game at all), not just couse of they removed pandas, but also couse they are too &*!@ing big, even for a tauren warrior for example. thunderfury used to be big but looks kinda normal, while those are too big and in same time too small for illidan.

besides size, that stupid green colour looks awful, its more like starwars wpn then a wow weapon, looks like lightsabre with green beam ffs.

come on guys get a decent designer, and creative 1 to make a difference ffs.

btw some ppl here said that "we do not want another thottbot" but that is exectly what are u doing with comments like that and zillion of numbers which no1 reads. I mean if u have warglaive(s) who gives a damn about numbers, formulas and $%^&?!?! u are supposed to be on top of DPS list - end of story.

Comment by Nem0

As a response to voiddragondemon hunters are will most likley be a hero class added 2 the gamea rogue/lock i presume just as death knight iv herd is a warrior/mage, or warrior/lock combo

Comment by Sammonoske

Could really use a warrior screenshot. These weapons arent just for rogues..

Comment by Coldkil

tbh, they remain the most powerful weapons for rogues also with new 2.4 loot.

109 dps awesome speed (2.80 main 1.40 off) and insane set bonus. hope to get them as my guild will run toward the face of illidan.

but i wanna see some other s4 weaps....(stupid blizzard trying to merge pve and pvp)

Comment by Stickfa

With the recent(ish) change to whirlwind, the off-hand certainly isn't a priority item for warriors to be thinking about. The mainhand however remains as good on paper as it looks.

Comment by Neptune0100

They may not only be for rogues, but they're definitely best for rogues =D

I can't believe the only new (and permanent) legendary items are mostly for rogues, usually we get overlooked, seeing as how we aren't the most important class.

Comment by Xantimum

if im not entirely lost, theese items could also be used for an enhanced shaman with either WF, frostband since they are medium slow weaps and they have increased attack power by 200 when figthing deamons as well as the additional 44 that comes with the single weap... or am i way off track here? :P

Comment by Thelaxxz

So far off I'm suprised I can still hear you way out there.

Comment by Thelaxxz

"usually we get overlooked"

I stopped reading here.

Comment by Florana

They're swords, Shamans cant use swords.

Comment by Lear

You are both entirely lost and way off track. Come back to the light....

Comment by Halofreak

Fellow rogue in my guild got this..next week Warglaive of Azzionoth Droped =9 and i wasnt there..lol kinda bumed because now i'm the 2nd best rogue on the realm ><

Comment by Leoin

I vote Demon Hunter = Rogue's heroic class

That would be Sick xD

Comment by Meera

Totally agree. In the new expansion, and delivered as a patch would be awesome.

Comment by Affje

Is it then possible that both of the warglaives drop at once?I Heard of some rumors, that a guild on EU-Arthas got both glaives on a single Illidan kill.

We have killed Illidan 11 times by now, no Warglaive :(

Comment by wolfdude786

um this might sound dumb but wat does this wep disenchent too? im just curious, and plz dont disenenchent this item for my sake. if i had this wep i would be crying in hapiness. so dont de it im just curious

Comment by zobi

This item is a legendary item, as stated above, this item and other legendary items can't be disenchanted

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Comment by Avitar

This weapon should go to rogues before warriors because a competent warrior would never complete the set due to the 1.4 speed offhand, therefore not making full use of the stat allocation on this, which is mostly in the proc. Discuss.

Comment by Torte

Please keep "THIS ITEM IS SO A ROGUE/WARRIOR/DONKEY WEAPON" to other sites. Thanks.

Comment by wrathicus

Avitar, thats really dumb. A warrior can use a slow off-hand for fury. The only thing that really takes much affect is whirlwind. But at the cost of some damage your gaining rage a bit faster, which will counter into using other skills to regain that damage. So a warrior using the set would be completely viable to a rogue.

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Comment by LuckySleven

you could see that the panda in illidan's warglaive is happy when he was normal in WC3

when he took the skull of guldan the panda turned angry at WC3 frozen throne

Comment by superpoisin

?? Lol you guys are acting like it some rare thing that no one believes ever exists or drop....Ony My Server, Black Dragonflight, tons of people have one. I know about 3 people off the top of my head that I've seen with one (or two) . Don't Believe it? Make a character on there and go to Shatt =)

Comment by Affje

First legendary that has no Quest you have to do, to obtain the Item.Also first "real" legendary in Burning Crusade (Kael'thas weapons are only temporary)

Comment by masterzyck

I have only few things to say about this weapon. Its cool, its mean and it hurts likie hell to be hitted by a combat rogue as a warlock:P

Comment by Strut

I have an addon that tells me a number to decide which gear or weapon is better. I was looking at warglaive and the brutal sword and it tells me that glaive is better. Does anyone no if that is true?

Comment by Hemetha

the first warglaive of azzinoth is stronger than the second one!But so cool!

Comment by dbabs

who or what is Azzinoth?

Comment by omnom

The fearsome demon called Azzinoth was a doomguard commander of the Burning Legion during the War of the Ancients before the Great Sundering. He met his end, however, when he came upon Illidan Stormrage.

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Comment by brucethebest

I have a question, is it true that there can only be one legendary per server?

Comment by Comeuppance

Absolutely not. I have seen three different people with these on my server.

Comment by Nephili

I wish they'd remove the class restriction already - this looks like possibly the best tanking weapon for paladins (in terms of threat generation) come WotLK.

Comment by akcorp

Umm... I think that's because he's still in Black Temple. Most people throw DND on when in a raid instance.

Comment by TsTAxeL

cannot be disenchanted.

Comment by Smacked

Some might have heard about the case of Zeuzo, a rogue on EU-Sylvanas from the guild Method who sold his account to another player for 7000 € (9,500$). Few days after the sale the account was banned. Zeuzo's rogue had double Twin Blades and 4/5 T6. Zeuzo, now 7000€ richer proceeded to make a new rogue, who soon had almost the same gear as his old one.

Comment by Ossicor

It's actually kind of sad that this weapon will end up being replaced by some easy to get epic out of a 10-man raid. Is there any official word on whether or not these will be upgradeable? Illidan apparently grew in power with them, you could safely assume that so could your character.

It's just a pity to see an item with real significance to the WoW universe's history ending up as a banked toy.

Comment by FallingDown

Since I've seen a Warri tanking with this:It's one of the very worst tanking-aggro weapons in game due to its slow speed. Especially for Off-Tanks without Devestate.

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Comment by TheRedDeath

Actually I have a question, is it true that these will only drop once while in a guild? and you have to guild hop doing raids over and over just at a chance to get these? I'm on a non PvP server and I'm curious about this. I was told by a guy i met on Trollbane that this was the case. If so I think that's complete BS.

Comment by Didder

Absolutely not true. In my guild's first two Illidan kills we've seen both the main hand and off hand drop.

Comment by Lemma

These will be replaced by quest greens in Wrath of the Lich King.

Comment by Flasheart

Sells to a vendor 24gold 31silver and 12copper... Good to know if one of these happen to drop. I need cash.

Comment by pollyo88

Affje... you forgot Kil'jaden's... lawl

Comment by penashue24

if someone wants to go Warglaive of Azzinoth add me i'm gobert

Comment by Nedorian70

yes and your guild would give these to you instead of a rogue or warrior who could spec to use them?... wow

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Comment by quader46

dropped from my guilds first illidan down tonight, needless to say, the rogue class leader was rather excited.

Comment by Halbarad

actually one of the screenshots shows it enchanted with Executioner, but Mongose is 99.9% the normal for this, heh maybe they could could pre enchanted next time, save us the hassle :)

Comment by flinkder

willl they also drop in wotlk? or will bliz remove them like amani war bear?

Comment by Tankadinpewpew

THEY WILL STILL DROP IN WOTLK!

Sorry caps.

Anyways, Warglaives are crazy (and prob stay that way till level 74-75). I remember doing EoTS and met a premade match, saw a rogue with double Warglaives. Got Backstabbed for 4000 (With 16000 armor!). So yeah, don't want to play games with someone with double warglaives

Comment by custardboy80

Its sad that used to be a really good weapon, but now that WOTLK came out it kinda sucks

Comment by Cliptose

they ever gonna allow Dks to use them?

Comment by Kumo

This'll probably get downrated by someone, but they look like evil fairy wings when they're on your back!

Comment by dadkbeast

Can dks use these, I don't know any 70 dk that has tried :(

Comment by Kimjael

No, they can't. Rogues and Warriors only. Same as DKs being unable to obtain T1-T6 set items.

Comment by aneraxz

is weapon is too bad for being legendary and with so low drop chance..and being Illidan's weapon...should be stronger

Comment by maskul

the haste buff is 100% proc chance but has 45sec internal CD. so u will have 450 haste for 1/3 of the time

Comment by Tootee01

Gnome female rogue + warglaives = win

=D

Comment by bubbathefrog

Is this weapon still viable in WotLK because when watching the Ensidia video of them downing Algalon for their world first. I saw a guy with this and I'm guessing he must prefer this weapon over epics with a higher weapon level but then again I'm not an expert on rogues so Id like to know if this weapon is viable?

Comment by Stormshadow327

I wonder if Blizzard is going to change the itemization on the blades so that DKs can also use them now, since they are the third class that can dual wield swords. Plus, it's far enough into the the DK play time that it would make it a worthy weapon to try and grab.

Comment by Instealth

I've been farming these bad boys for 5 1/2 months in WotLK. Started back in Early January, got my Off-Hand to start within the first month (5%-6% drop rate). Then the (Main-Hand 4% drop rate) many many months later, after week in and week out farming never missing a single lockout. Working my butt off I started up my own groups (trying to advoid the people I knew would mess it up, which is a problem in it's own) and *Reserved them* for the around 23 downings on this Half-Nelf SoB. Was very determained and got them with time, always had a fast heart beat when it was time to loot him for that split second, looking for the Orange at the top of the loot table mainly expecting to see just purple. Long strung out journey, and supposedly 5-6 months is pretty quick I hear..so...yah. Although Illidan might not be too hard to kill in WotLK (Easier than IC) you might still find it challenging if you want his duel blades and should be ready to kill him week in and week out to get them, unless you get extremely lucky. For those curious in all the roughly atleast 23 killings my groups and I achieved we only saw the 2 drop that I obtained. Could have easily been another Off-Hand for the 2nd one, because of the higher drop rate, and It's just commonly known the MH is Rarer than the OH. But in my case to a suprise it was a Main-Hand. Anyways that's my journey/statistics, GL to other farmers out there, as I know there are not many of them, but some. With time he definetly becomes an easier fight as you and your friends strive into more of the Ulduar gear. If anyone is wondering you will definetly draw some attention while in Org.

Edit - Well Ciel...you're quite the Idiot to say the least..if you've played the game enough in Burning Crusade anyone would know, by all means the Off-Hand has a higher chance percentage to drop over His Main Hand Warglaive, (go on ahead and ask your realm's higher up raiding guilds from those times, if you're not in one. Don't go all stupid on yourself just by reading off from what the this site says. First off don't be a jerk-off calling me a "jackass" right off the bat, for trying to give out usefull information based my OWN experiences, as you have NOT experienced them, And lastly..don't do it when your facts are wrong, because saying they're the same drop rate is a WRONG statement you freaking "know it all"...fine to give out your own oppinion...but adding the word "jackass" at the end of it...is disrespectful...exspecially when I've done jack crap to you, and secondly when your statement is wrong right in front of that word..anyways turn the word back on yourself. Thx : P

Comment by Azshade

Stormshadow327 : "so that DKs can also use them now, since they are the third class that can dual wield swords"

HuntersRoguesWarriorsDKs... <<< 4th.

Comment by Ciel

drop rate is the same for both glaives jackass

Comment by Ukahh

Yeah, Kungen wears his Warglaive still.

He doesn't raid with it on, but for guild screenshots it'll typically be out :)

Comment by TheMaelstorm

not a huntar weapon.

Comment by Corim

Technically (as most of you should know) the warglaives are NOT the best items for dps ( for a rogue ) , but actually the blades you get from killing kil' jaeden, though warglaives are better for pvp( i don't know what daggers/swords are better now in WotLK) ... ... just thought u might wana know :)...

Comment by kjpp

Just ninja'd by Scir on the Stonemaul server.

Comment by Ukahh

I don't want dirty ass DK's getting their grubby fingers on our weapons! Besides, why would Blizzard change an old world item now? Adding the DK race to the classes that can use the Warglaives is about a stupid as adding a T6 token for DK's, there's just no point.

Comment by Crytek89

They did not change it so DKs can use these, it is still only Rogue, Warrior.Just so you know. Also I doubt that they will change the itemization so DKs could use it, they may have changed it so DKs can use Thunderfury, although I doubt they will do the same for the Warglaives.

Update: Well... apparently Blizzard didn't share my views on the subject. The Warglaives have now been updated to allow Death-knights to use this weapon.

Comment by darksomeone

Illidan is one of my favorite villians of all time. Knowing that you can get his weapons make me want to level a Night Elf rogue or warrior. I can't decide which class to choose though. Any suggestions? And does anyone know where i could get a blindfold?

Comment by GRAPEDRANK

i had 4 of em

Comment by Malinq

Funny how people still run BT pugs just to ninja these...

Comment by gorondor132

getting through the BT takes a bloody long time, could take 2-3 hours atleast, and its so easy to wipe. I think these should be legendary items because illidan is more harder then nefarian and ragnaros put together...

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Comment by VINOS

THE BEST SWORD EVER

Comment by Bauz

I ran a random BT PuG tonight :DRetarded master looter got scared and gave it to me. I made alot of enemies but my GAWD it was worth it.I feel no remorse and no guilt towards Oxwhisper, who deserved it.

Comment by magkin

i need gear plezzzzz

Comment by Ashinox

Where's Entry#?

Comment by Popika

Awesome item, but, you won't believe me, I never needed it, as I was a tank. Taking up Illidan's shield was my need and also the plate head.

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Comment by Jarrot

I make Black Temple from june every week.I drop the offhand at 2 kill, and today i drop another offhand.Still wait for the main-hand :(

Comment by Jarrot

finally after 6 month of farming every week reset, in the day of christmas illidan drop the main hand of azzinoth.

Comment by MM0rten

Got mine the 26th

Comment by Fury15

Does anyone know when this drops, does its off hand counterpart drop with it? Because if it didn't and you were farming for both you could get the main hand twice :(

Comment by jahf

Yes and my butt -may- sprout wings due to a genetic mutation, allowing me to fly, but the chances are about the same.

Comment by pyriendra

if i ever see a dk win these, im quitting the game. they dont deserve !@#$.

edit: wrong word was put in original post!

Comment by darkboy

Nice One In Patch 2.4.3 Very Good look like but Not Good For Enchants

Comment by fran13r

actually any dk have more in common with illidam than warriors and maybe just maybe more than rouges too, just saying, i really never see the point in the whole only usable by warriors or rouges, hunters can double wield, why they didn't get the chance to use the warglaives? its only stupid if u ask me, of course warriors and rouges don't want any other class to use them (@$$holes), i have a rouge with the warglaives and i rely don't care who may have them, after all AGAIN never see the point in the players wielding a legendary wep. if more than 20 ppl have the same pair of swords, its not that legendary isn't it? it's like, illidam having a whole room with 9999999 warglaives. i like that blizzard didn't do the same thing with frostmourne! (its almost more than impossible due to the "if u wield frost u'll become the lich daddy"

btw take care of who is farming this swords with you, ninjas can need it just to make u rely rely mad >=( stupid ninjas!

Comment by Vip3r

Behold this sword, the one that Illidan use it to slash his opponents. Behold...

.... Warglaive of Azzinoth of the Whale

Comment by Hawkedge

HEY GUSY LOOK IM A DEMN HUTNER!

Comment by pyriendra

quote from Fran13r

actually any dk have more in common with illidam than warriors and maybe just maybe more than rouges too, just saying, i really never see the point in the whole only usable by warriors or rouges, hunters can double wield, why they didn't get the chance to use the warglaives? its only stupid if u ask me, of course warriors and rouges don't want any other class to use them (@$$holes), i have a rouge with the warglaives and i rely don't care who may have them, after all AGAIN never see the point in the players wielding a legendary wep. if more than 20 ppl have the same pair of swords, its not that legendary isn't it? it's like, illidam having a whole room with 9999999 warglaives. i like that blizzard didn't do the same thing with frostmourne! (its almost more than impossible due to the "if u wield frost u'll become the lich daddy"

btw take care of who is farming this swords with you, ninjas can need it just to make u rely rely mad >=( stupid ninjas!

Your inability to spell properly is astounding. Illidam? not sure who that is. Rely? you need to go back to school.

Death Knights, honestly, Don't deserve anything legendary (not even shadowmourne) seeing as 99.99% of the entire death knight class is horrible at playing and can barely pull the dps required for many instances/raids.

I'm more than glad that Blizz didn't change it to where they allow dks to use these legendary swords. I hope they NEVER change it to where they can use them.

Comment by su1c1de

owh well this main drop juz now at tich,and ml ninjaed it =(.looks like its drop rate raised little bit.

Comment by Attorus

This is one kick@#$ sword

Comment by Backmask

Dude: How much for this weapon?

Vendor: Oh my! A legendary weapon!.... 20 gold.

Dude: Are you serious? This is one of the Warglaives used by Illidan himself in which he obtained from slaying the doomguard commander Azzinoth of the Burning Legion!

Vendor: Okay, fine... 24 gold and some change...

Comment by Dirolex

Is it still possible to get this weapon?

Comment by pugdad360

i wish the dks could use it :(

Comment by Bandidito

What drop percent does warglaive's has?

Comment by pyriendra

What drop percent does warglaive's has?

i take it that typing the warglaives in and then looking at the drop % spot is hard?

and did you fail English in school? the incoherence is amazing, as is your stupidity in your post.

researching this stuff is hard for some of you, yes, and many of you continue to prove it

Comment by culdude

The best looking weapons in wow imo. =)

Comment by Samonsky

these on a gnome rouge wearing the tirisfal set looks like your a midget demon hunter its really cute!

Comment by justanotherdruid

Finally finished both glaives and Thori'dal this morning on my 70 twink.

Thought you guys might be interested in video of all 3 items dropping.

Comment by Rukioish

Just started farming my Glaives on my 80 PvP rogue. First run was unsuccessful to say the least. I have high hopes to seeing one drop soon. Just want one to drop to kindle my hope for obtaining these heavenly blades.

Comment by shmaty

I am not great with spelling either...but dude...how can you dis his post when the grammar in your own post is just as bad or worse? Now go edit the post so you look like less of an idiot. :D

Comment by XxSacredxX

Epic weapon that is equip by an epic hero --> overpowered by lvl 75+ weaponsnow that's just sad

Comment by gurumed

Got my Warglaive some days ago at my first illidan down!

Somebody spamming in trade chat about Illidan only encounter in Black Temple... I joined the party.. defeated him... rolled 98 and got achievement + legendary weapon!

Lucky me!

Comment by MingtheMerciless

Coolest looking weapon in the game, no doubt!

Comment by JaeHunter

RoguesWarriorsHuntersSHAMANSDeath KnightsForget Shamans again and they will Frost Shock you from one side of Azeroth to the other!

Comment by JaeHunter

Any non class specfic - One Hand (useable in both) earlyish level drop that resembles these?Atleast in being a weapon with 2 blades.

Comment by Varllok

I'm not sure if anyones noticed it, but on the Cataclysm wowhead page for this item, it also has Death Knights tagged as a class that can wield it. Is that intended or just a bug?

Comment by chris6969

In cata DK's can use 'em.

Comment by Greken

For what reason should dks be able to use the glaives? THAY ARE PREPARED now?

thay wasent part of this game back then and thay never will be tbh. prob most retarded change i seen in some time now.

Comment by RampageRisto

So I take it your mad to have an overplayed class, er wait scratch that another overplayed class to fight with for what is purley a status symbol now? Forgive the misstypes I have been drinking.

Comment by Jerodast

I've seen surprisingly none enchantment discussion on here for such a distinctive looking weapon. Wondering what enchants look good on these guys.

I'm pretty sure all the screenshots I've seen have had either Mongoose or nothing on 'em. Mongoose looks pretty good but has anyone tried others? I was thinking of doing Lifestealing cuz the purple aura might contrast with the green in a cool way but I'm wondering if the innate weapon glow would make it barely noticeable. Thoughts?

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Comment by Nubx2140

DKs got this cause all the noob DKs can't get any ORANGE TEXT LEWTS HARHAR and they want to be "twinked" Seriously blizz....next thing your gonna do is make Shadowmourne a Hunter weapon Fix this.Nao.

EDIT: it seems i have been downrated by nerdraging DKs (I play a DK and i don't approve of ever making this a DK weapon

Comment by spcmack

I got this on my first (yeah i took my sweet time) illidan kill yesterday. The rumor is that the drop rate has been increased by 20% on legendary drops, but I can't find anything on google to support that. Anyone able to confirm the drop rate for legendary weapons has increased?

Comment by Bok1ca

I was lucky enough and got both glaives in 1 day. The same day i got level 70 too.First got off-hand before reset, then after reset main-hand.

Comment by Dragonnith

Before I start to truly flail everywhere, is it 100% confirmed that these can now be used by Death Knights? As a HUGE lore geek these are a must.

Comment by Godisgrisen

Why doesn't it transform you to a demon on the 450 haste effect? That would be soo much cooler.

Comment by Lavacha

I got the sword after 7 months lol

Comment by otosnoise

Just got my second glaive on my DK. Really happy. Not quite sure if the drop rate has changed or anything, though seeing the guild achievement Warglaives of Azzinoth - Guild Edition was nice. You still need to be honored with your guild to get it I do believe, so you can just hop guild to guild giving them the achievement!

Comment by Sellest

I got very lucky and after offhand last week we went to BT again and this time mainhand dropped. I have never chance to get them in BC because all the rogues in guild and fact I was arms warrior so this felt a bit satisfying. I tried them a bit in heroics with guildies and I wasn't ashamed when I seen recount. Maybe I will be after upcoming howling blast nerf :P On boss dummy I ended with 12k dps after few tests which is not bad also.

Comment by 13badluck3

Imho, gnomes should not be allowed to use this weapon. Why? they would be pole vaulted trying to swing it. Look in screenshots. there is a Gnome wearing them and they are taller than her.

Comment by Scruff88

I don't see anything wrong with death knights being added to the list of classes that can use these. After all, it's two whole expansions after The Burning Crusade, so only two types of people are going to want these anyways. One being weapon collectors, which these are a beautiful addition to any collection. And the other being level 70 twinks.

The only way that a dk is going to get away with successfully using these is oddly as unholy spec. The reason is because Threat of Thassarian favors a slow offhand. As for unholy, dual-wielding doesn't really cut their damage output and the haste proc would be incredible for Sudden Doom procs.

Warriors, on the other hand, shouldn't get caught dead twinking with these because, like frost dks, Single-Minded Fury favors a slow offhand.

Nonetheless, these are still designed wholeheartedly for rogues specifically. And now with Ambush being able to be used with any weapon and not just daggers, these have suddenly become the top of every subtlety rogue's wish list. Any warriors or dks using these weapons aren't making full use of the itemization on them.

They. Will. Always. Be. Rogue. Weapons.

Edit: To all those who may down-rate me, the information that I posted is concerning level 70 twinks. As for weapon collectors, who cares if they have these?

Comment by comma33

HuntersRoguesWarriorsDKs... <<< 4th.

RoguesWarriors HuntersShamansDeath knights <<<<<5th

And what was originally stated is dual wielding classes not classes that use swords. Be smart and read

Comment by Godincarnate

As of March 3 2011 Gôdïncarnatë (85 Human) of US-Rexxar is the the first death knight to complete the set.

Comment by fedas15

No man, drops variate some people find harder getting The OH more than the MH and vice versa.It's just all about luck , one sword doesn't have higher drop than the other they are equal as I said it before IT'S ALL ABOUT LUCK.

You sir, are wrong. Now that you actually look at the Wowhead statistics for the drop rate, they backup the fact that the main hand has a lower drop rate than the off hand.

Comment by Aerolite08

I'm kind of surprised that there's no bottom comment stating:

"As of 4.0.3 Death Knights have been added to the list of classes that can wield the set. About freaking time! (Even though they weren't part of TBC story, so um...whatever)."

Though I suppose there's probably one over on the MH blade or something. Anyway, ^^^^^^^^^^ that, if it wasn't obvious enough from the new crimson red text on the class restrictions the item text has.

Comment by pinktiger

Just got the MH on my Death Knight :)

Comment by mpsyhk

Got my mainhand on my first ever run in BT. Offhand on the other hand, 4 runs and nothing yet. :(

Comment by OwellOtra

I just got them On my Death Knight If you wanna make it simple all you really need is a dps and a pref healer with a Rdps spec i was Blood/frost we only had issues getting to illidan because of the Souls Boss Just dont give up and you will get them aswell:)

Comment by Random0147

Funnily enough, he was on the Illidan server

Comment by Johnnydeath

@OwellOtra How many runs did it take you?

I am just starting my once a week run for these for my level 70 twink. It took about 5 85s to do it and 2 hours. So im kinda wanting a range on time on how long it would take if I ran it once a week. If anyone has a rough Idea..

Comment by gaudy

but you got to admit they look really bad ass

Comment by kylolz

took me ~45 runs to complete my set, saw 2 MHs and 1 OH. cleared BT on and off since LK release. at 80 i actually did full 25 man runs, just trade chat pugs. once cata hit we did it with 5-10, then once we got our heroic gear we started doing it with 5 or less 85s and some alt twinks

Comment by Thanatos420

There are much better items from sunwell for DK twinks than a pair of FLASHY swords. DK's shouldnt care about agility, if anything they should be trying to get the 2h sword off the last boss in sunwell...

Comment by Redclouds

Was just running some guild lowbies through Black Temple. It was an absolutely incredible feeling to see this drop. Sadly, our only warrior was an 84, and our ownly dk was an 85. There were no rogues in the group whatsoever. Kind of a tragedy if you ask me. But wow. Nothing like feeling your heart stop when you see that orange text.

Comment by Mayanard

I have a full T6 tank warrior with the shield that drops from illidan and I'm farming for the MH wargliave then OH for fury dps it's a lot moe fun downing BT as a whole weekly as an all 70 raid.. It actually takes skill.. Instead of all those super geared, super bad twinks out there.

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Comment by warhamer116

As of 4.3, transmogrification allows you to switch skins of weapons and armor if you have both item you want to reskin, and item that you want skin from.I got a feeling we are going to see a lot more shadowmournes and warglaives after 4.3 drops, as ilvl 370+ 85 toons can almost solo illidan regardless of class, and take the prizes.Only thing left to see, is if you can reskin different types of weapons in between, as that way shamans can run around with dual maces that are disguised as warglaives.

Comment by Sin666

LEGENDARY !

Comment by rexy123

lol chain lightning reminds me of the Wonder Waffle eh Dempsey (and yes i do know it is called Wunderwaffe)

Comment by Shotbydalonewolf

As of 9/6/2011, what are the average runs to have one of these drop? Please don't reply with one of those comments such as "I got lucky, first try drop".

Comment by Hamanis

Last I checked, it was still a 4-5% drop rate. No reason as to why Blizzard would randomly change the drop rate on an old legendary.

That being said, 3 runs and 3 MH drops. Giving to an 85 rogue, 85 warrior, and my 82 rogue.RNG is RNG though

Comment by Apash

Melee classes need Moar legendies!111!111!

Comment by Rtucci

Wow, I just got the main hand tonight on my dwarf rogue on his second run. Crazy luck. Not sure but I think I'm probably the only dwarf on my server with one haha, or at least the only one I've seen. Time to farm that off hand now.

Comment by Phoenix1432

I was talking to a GM today regarding this item, and the GM confirmed that both warglaives can in fact drop at the same time, although the chances of that happening are extremely slim.

Comment by Tripfel

why downrate him? its a true statement. i was wondering if this was likely and its been confirmed so thank you :)

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Comment by StansDad

"Blizzard has stated that you can't transmogrify into legendary weapons"

Exactly so - and in addition, you cannot transmog any equipment to look like something that your class cannot normally use.

Comment by yairmorales44

I ran the Black Temple yesterday/ 28-10-2011 did it with 1lvl 80 druid healer and 3 85dps 1 83dps and 1lvl 80dps

Comment by Lasmettus

Took me 20 runs to snatch this treasure. My favorite weapon in the whole game.

Comment by doctorgray

To all of wondering why some twink DK's have a warglaive equipped:

The posts above which mention that these weapons are bad for DK's because of the fast off-hand is partially correct.You do NOT want to equip the off-hand version of this weapon. It's way too fast for a DK. However, because of the way obliterate and frost strike work, it is highly useful to have the main hand warglaive and use it. This is because it's a slow weapon with a high top end damage. Using this and Muramasa is probably the best setup, but this and one of the T6 one handers will work just as well. The T6 one hander has 50 attack power, whereas Muramasa has none. The reason Muramasa is worth using is because it too has a higher top end damage.

TL;DR: The setup below is acceptable and maybe even preferable for a DW Frost DK because of the weapon speed(s) and top end damage. People don't just use them because they're glaives, they use them because they hit damn hard.

Comment by yairmoraes1

It's random i got my DK to 70 and later on that same day i did Black Temple and guess what droped first run so its really random drop(Name: Hungor Realm: Anvilmar)(Date: year:2011 Day:25th Month:November)(Don't be slow it was the main hand Warglaive of Azzinoth).

Comment by Effectrix

Fun fact: if you wield both Warglaives in the Well of Eternity, Illidan will emote:

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Cool and Green

Comment by Razlord

this obviously is a terrible weapon for level 70 melee classes and is pointless to have, its stupid looking too (sarcasm)

Comment by Feebie

When i Got my Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker and my Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros i noticed that i got the guild Achievment before the actual feat of strength achievment (which i got when i equipped them)I think it's very important to know that if noone in the raid can use the glaives or any other legendary simply raidroll them because the guild the character is in will earn the guild achievment for the legendary weapon if the character is at the required reputation level with the guild.

Comment by shamanwars

Coolest looking item ever :]

Comment by mischiefbrew

just thought ide mention somthing, there is a 100% way to tell if a glaive has dropped before ANYONE loots illidan (ive confirmed this with 3 glaives dropped). when illidan dies his glaives are a standard size, BUT when he dies a a glaive is in the loot table his personal glaives that he uses through-out the fight will actually shrink to character scale until said item is loot and removed from his corpse. just thought people mite enjoy this bit of information so they no when one drops before anyone even loots it =)

Comment by H2DaMFC

As of Cata, Death Knights are also now able to equip these, along with Rogues and Warriors.

Comment by xlDeMoNiClx

Severely outdated but still my favorite Legendary.

Comment by AmandaKayne

i wish there was a red version like wowhead made as an april fool

Comment by crynal

Monk usable now? Crazy.

Comment by Jackinthegreen

When Mists of Pandaria comes out, does anyone think they'll allow Monks to use these? DW swords after all.

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Comment by Nerxedion

With the recent changes made in Mists of Pandaria this Legendary item set will also have a lsight change: from the beginning of MoP Monks will be able to use these as well, making them to be the the 4th class to be able to wield these magnificent swords.

Comment by wowwowy

Is there any Swords in game right now that player can obtain the either A: has the same color as this/glowor B: has the same shape or close to the same shape, if you could link it for me that would be awesome, thanks

Comment by Solarscar

IN WC3, ILLIDAN'S GLAIVES HAD PANDA PAWS ON THEM. wiki proves it, The pandaren are originally from central Kalimdor where they established the Pandaren Empire. They were allies of the night elves until they saw their obsession with magic getting out of control.

That was of course before the Sundering occurred , after which they fell into slavery of the Mogu. That also explains why Night Elf and Pandaren structures are quite similar. I hope there will be a Caverns of Time instance for this portion of lore, I would love to experience it.

Comment by LafinJack

Death knights added, monks added, paladins still not on the list. :(

Comment by Grilz01

Main Hand Warglaive Dropped for me Grilz on Frostwolf server at 11.24am local time Adelaide Australia. Friday 26th Oct 2012

Comment by Nightrider21

Just got the off hand on my rouge after 5.1 came out, first run too. Wish they'd upgrade these so you could make them useful for current content.

Comment by Monok

RNG.

Between TBC and MoP I can't even count the number of times I ran BT. I'd peg it around 100 clears between a few different characters. I never saw a single glaive.

This week I had both MH/OH drop within 2 days of each other (Sunday and Tuesday) while soloing on the DK.

Comment by MuchODinaros

Dropped 2 weeks on a row for my monk, other one went to trash ofc as was soloing. Sigh. I have 6 weeks of clears with my monk, and DK has 20+ and not even seen one.

Update, 3rd MH glaive now for the monk..

Comment by Shyar

I've been farming BT for the Bulwark of Azzinoth with my warrior for a couple of weeks... after 5 Illidan kills I ended up with a full Warglaive set but the shield didn't drop once o.O

Comment by wowwowy

It took three Illidan kills on my rogue to get this, Using it on my Rogue* twink.

To note I had on all my characters probably 12-13 runs on people who can use the glaives.

Comment by benx2011

I just got this in the first run, but then it cannot be used for xmog. beside sitting in my bank as a trophy, i dont see anything useful. so unless you just want it in your collection. otherwise, dont waste your energy.

Comment by Blakmane

I'm fairly sure that the drop rate has been changed couple times over time. In BC era on crowded realms (20k+) seeing a player wielding the TWO warglaives was kind of an eye candy.

I think I remember the wowhead page saying something like: 0.4 (1 every 250 runs) or even worse 0.04% (1 every 2500) now a plain 5% (which is a lot, 1 every 20 runs) and players can enter BT to kill Illidan only 52 times a year. I'm not 100% sure about my memories about the drop rates back then but if I'm right players can have an idea of how difficult was the drop of these glaives back then.

Comment by themunge

Cleared BT many times with a group on my mage and never seen either Glaive drop - after 5.1 decided to farm on my DK and main-hand dropped on my 3rd clear - couldn't believe it! :D

3 weekly clears later and the OH dropped. :)

Comment by Mondoblasto

Somewhere in the bowels of Blizzard Headquarters, the Item Development department had a meeting, back in the days of yore (or 2006-2007, if you prefer...)

Blizz Item Developer One: Okay, we've finished Warglaives of Azzinoth, they're one-handed swords that are dual-wielded, with Agi, Stam and Hit Rating, so obviously they're only gonna be for warriors and rogues.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But wait, what about hunters?

Blizz Item Developer One: ...What?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, those are excellent stats for hunters. They use Agi, everyone needs Stam, and they're big on Hit Rating. Plus they can dual-wield one-hand swords. They're gonna want to roll on them too, you know.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But what about that new bow that's being worked on? Um, "Thorny Dal", or whatever-it's-called?

Blizz Item Developer One: What about it?

Blizz Item Developer Two: That one's not being class-excluded from all other classes other than hunters...

Blizz Item Developer One: Yeah, so?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, warriors and rogues can use ranged weapons too, so they'll be able to roll on the bow if it drops. So that means they can use the swords and the legendary bow at the same time, while hunters can't use swords that are good for them, and their legendary can be used by the two classes that are not excluded from the swords? Someone's going to figure that out eventually...

Blizz Item Developer One: Well, sucks to be them. If they want the swords too, they'll just have to re-roll. /shrug

Comment by Yadue

I think I'm lucky or Illidan felt in love with me :)

I decided to get this for my monk, because I always loved the look of this sword set, however I've never had any character that could wear it.

On Tuesday before the weekly reset I went to BT and soloed it and got the off-hand. I thought it will be months until I'll get the main hand sword. Next day after reset I went down again and got a big surprise from Illidan... The main hand warglaive.

2 runs and got both. I think I could be luckier only if both drop on first run.

I hope you who still farming this or willing to farm it have the same luck as I had.

Comment by jameson14

Nice! But check out that: warcraft4beta.com

Comment by expectwar

Last week the off-hand dropped and I didn't win the roll, now this week main-hand dropped and I won it! If only I won the off-hand last week too... :,(

Comment by WallyWest

For transmog purposes can you simply get one of them and apply it to two one hand weapons?

Or do you still need to get both the MH and OH drops?

*edit* nvm, can't transmog them. Lame.

Comment by Nooarocks

got offhand back in The Burning Crusade and saw 10 offhands drop before i finally got my mainhand on my 120th kill :)i had almost lost all hope.

Comment by Lostelf

Got the MH one this afternoon while boosting a level 70 hunter friend. BT is deffinantly soloable by level 90s with about ilvl 466 or atleast by arms warriors with second wind. Although illidan was a bit tricky the rest of the bosses fell easy enough so you could do it with a lower ilvl if you tried!

Comment by bujimot2

i have off hand why i cant transmog ?

Comment by frank3ntank

I just got mine today after 36 kills, the first kill I ever had of Illidan was in cata, random group and I won the offhand almost 2 years go. Quit for a while and came back, in the process of trying to get the main hand I saw one other off hand drop but I finally got my set completed today.

Comment by Oreilytheinsane

At last after total of 41 Illidan Kills in my stat achievments til i finally got the offhand and got the Feats of Strenght Achievment

3 Mainhand Glaives Dropped before i ever saw the offhand for the first time

Never doing black temple as rogue again! ;)

Comment by raffenblackmane

My monk hit 90 a week or so ago, paid someone to clear it for me, to get the zergling staff, and the mh dropped lol, then now that ive got some gear, i soloed again the next week and got the offhand! i don't know if they upped the drop rate, but this was awesome lol. Haikufu on malganis horde.

Comment by LasVegas

Heres the story. DK has MH glaive, warrior has OH glaive. Since they obtained both of these glaives, my DK has seen 2 more MHs in 35 runs and my warrior has seen 5 more OH glaives in 24 runs.

So here I am, a guy with 9 Warglaive drops and still no FoS.

This reset I got both Glaives to drop again, but of course, the wrong ones, on both characters.

I even made a ticket about it, explaining my story to the GM. Sadly, all he could say was that RNG is in fact RNG. I guess he's right, but sometimes RNG can be a proper @#$%ing %^&*!. Warglaive and Fiery Warhorse Reins (over 500 tries), oh how I loathe thee.

Comment by Kinpo

Man, Last Wednesday I got my Off Hand, The Swift White Hawkstrider dropped from Kael'Thas the day before so since It had a slightly lower Drop rate than the Warglaive, I had a good feeling that my Warglaive would finally drop and It did, Just waiting til this Wednesday...Time to run for the second one :D

Comment by Dranow

I saw a level 90 rogue have the set and they actually had level 90 stats... Did he hack it? or is their a way to change the stats?

Comment by Itelletas

This should totally be useable by warlocks for transmog. Combat relevance and ability to wield both be damned.

Comment by Luvetospooge

MH just dropped for me :-) 1st run never been in BT before. Guess id better keep going back for the other ! Looks well cool.

Comment by dushanz

MH dropped for my dk today on the very first run, going for the fos before I run out of luck !

Comment by Shadowdice00

Haza, 27 runs and my 70 rogue got the MH had the OH from run one but been so long getting this one. Been solo everything with my war and bring in rogue just for illidan. I give the best of luck to everyone still farming just remember it will never drop unless you go and farm it.

Comment by Brutalbarbie

I think blizzard is mocking me... ._ .'

i.imgur.com/HENy0K1.jpg

Comment by reaper7

can legendaries transmforfed from so an item look like legendary or not?pls help!

Comment by Jerodast

The most important question about these weapons: What's the best position to show them off? Naturally when I'm in cities @#$%ing around with my interface or waiting on a queue, I like to pull these out. They look a little silly crossed on your back, so I unsheathe them. Still, there's a bit of a lack of...energy, of verve, with them just hanging limply at the ends of your arms. What I really want is to do the classic Demon Hunter crouch with them, one held in front and the other at my side. As a rogue, I can actually accomplish this by going into stealth, but then nobody can see how awesome I am! Is there any other way to strike such a pose?

Comment by Chrii

Imo all legendarys should work like a heirloom 1-90, since its so hard to obtain, with exception of cloak. Maybe that one unlocks after WOD launches so it can be sent to other toons.

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Comment by Vordred

They really need to make Epic-version of Warglaives, one like those initiates use... I'd like to transmog my swords to look like them...

Comment by CLGDRAZO

Starting to think that the OH is higher drop rate then MH as out of the few years ive ran BT ive seen OH was far more dropped then MH.

Comment by Acusiont

Killing Illidan with his own weapons...

Perhaps he was not prepared?

Comment by jxli

got this after a couple months :) but still no off-hand

Comment by rehlyihmah

These should get updated textures.

Comment by RazorsEdges

their Haste proc ot nerfed in 6.0.2 hotfix on 18/10/2014 :(

Comment by George14

Why has the icon changed into an axe? The old one was brilliant!

Comment by remixmagic72

Strange fact:After 6.0.2,pre-WoD,my rogue named ''Berkeakay'' on Sylvanas EU server,dropped the main hand glaive in my 3rd try.After equipping the main hand,I noticed that my damage was increased to 1.7k from 1.5k(I was equipping two Hellscream's Razor,one is heroic and one is normal).After i tried my dps on the dummies:13k max dps with the Glaive on,7k with both daggers equipped and i was Sub spec.I really dont know the exact reason of this but it probably has to do something with the stat squish.

Comment by NaAbPwNzOr420

Stupid n00bs always show with these shyt swords in stormwind and even in bgs. Haha look at me i solo 70 instance bwahahaha im so power full NO stfu 1v1 me bith if u so strong

Comment by Pernicious

While I completely agree that this item should be prioritized by the classes listed above. I would absolutely love to see these equipped when my Demonology Warlock switches to Demon Form.

Comment by Willasaurus

Just dropped for me today, my first legendary not counting the MoP cape! :)

Comment by Alcinda

Anyone else have a problem with the Warglaive(s) being backwards while sheathed? I just have the mainhand, but.. it's weird.

Comment by burn3r1

'Cannot transmogrify'

Useless item, I don't care if it looks good if you can't transmog it.

Comment by GuiArashiro

I think I'm going insane right now. Some time ago, the Main Hand dropped and in the next week it dropped again. I was pissed but thought that the Off Hand would drop sooner or later. Well, I just killed Illidan again and guess what? THE GODDANM MAIN HAND DROPPED AGAIN. Someone please help me, I'm going to explode any second now because of anger.

Comment by biggaz69

Not sure if the drop rate has increased on these but I've dropped them almost every week for the last couple of months, even brought a friend who needed them on his twink and they dropped. Just wish you could mog them :(

Comment by Gormadok

Unfortunately, having one main hand doesnt prevent you to obtain second main hand instead of offhand. farm saga continues.

Comment by Corvosi

Dropped first time I went into Black Temple with my warlock!

Comment by Hannibal08

55 Illidan kills according to my armory and still yet to see a main hand drop. More than a year's worth of solid raiding there. Well beyond that raid's actual life cycle in game. Bad luck I guess. Three off hands have dropped in that time though, two of which just rotted on the corpse.

Comment by Nvrmd

Well, I´m still looking to complete my first set of warglaives after month/years of killing good old Illidan.

My warrior has one, my dk has one and my monk has one and I will probably run bt until they all have their set but for the time being just one set for the feat of strength would be more then enough.

Until then my 3 chars have to settle for dual wielding their one glaive with thunderfury which is just slightly worse.

Comment by WowheadAaron

So, here I am on my 50th run on my level 70 rogue and I have never even seen either of the glaives ever drop. I wonder if anyone here can beat that..

Comment by Kliamovich

Will the Demon Hunter class be able to wield these?

Comment by jasojase

With the announcement of Demon Hunter as a hero class in the LEGION expansion, Warglaive of Azzinoth will include the Demon Hunter class as well as Monk, Rogue, Death Knight, and Warrior.

Comment by jasojase

With the announcement of Demon Hunter as a hero class in the LEGION expansion, Warglaive of Azzinoth will include the Demon Hunter class as well as Monk, Rogue, Death Knight, and Warrior.

Comment by RyanGamingX1

I Absolutly LOVE This Weapon! Im Farming BT on my Monk for it :D, Just a question, im looking for The ID number for What is it?

Comment by thycondrius

17 try @ 25m. Ty illidan :)

Comment by Nissemans

Gotta get this on my demon hunter when Legion comes out.

Comment by Roa92

On the alpha build it seems Demon Hunters have been added as classes that are able to equip them

So get ready to see some Warglaives of Azzinoth wielding Demon Hunters in Legion

Comment by Jaydeetoo

It's known that you can equip them and fight with them whilst going through Timewalking dungeons, and I believe that they increase the damage you deal in such a dungeon as scaled down they are still legendary.

After 16 months of farming I can finally go through the Timewalking dungeons with both warglaives now equipped.

Keep at it, because who knows if they will still available after the next expansion.

Comment by Havran228

right now... I got 3rd drop of off hand in 3rd week... I feel bad... #1 I cannot weild it as warlock... #2 even I cannot weild it I want main hand.. #3 why I have 3 drops in 3 weeks if others farm it for years with no luck?

Comment by Renti

Blizzard needs to change these from sword to warglaive in legion

Comment by mosstone

Usable by Demon Hunters :D

Comment by mosstone

These really should give attack power instead of agility, so that they are of some use to Death Knights and Warriors, who the very things say that they are meant for as well as the agility-lings.

Also, why are they such low resolution in comparison with the other Black Temple items? Mine looks stupid next to the Shard of Azzinoth, which belongs to the concept and is only two bosses apart. Is it to tantalize people that only have one, because you cannot find another one handed weapon with as low resolution as the glaive you have?

Comment by Nessacity

Still drops. Saw the Offhand drop for the second time today. The farm carries on.

Comment by LoKHor

My first Illidan kill with my Paladin I got this. Then I realised that even though it is classified as a sword it is locked to other melee classes! I can't learn the transmog. :(

Comment by Krikken

I have not seen many comments about this but,demon hunters + warglaives + Burning Crusade Time-walking dungeons = fun times. Can't wait!Now if only they would update its texture, but not change it. That would be even more epic.

P.S. I hope this halloween we get an exquisite costume of Illidan Stormrage, like we have for Arthas {Lich King} and Neltharion {Deathwing} Just some wishful thinking.

Comment by nlouty

Can we still get it after 7.0.3 ?

Comment by Gari22

Did Black Temple last night just before reset, and the main hand dropped. Did it again today, and the off-hand dropped. So I can confirm they both still drop after 7.0.3 (Though I don't know why anyone would really think they wouldn't). Also, I either got very lucky, or it's possible the drop rate was increased.

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Comment by Creditmoney

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that Demon Hunters are even able to go kill their Lord?Edit: Now with the timewalking version of the Black Temple, the excuse appears to be that we went there to fix a time disturbance... so lets just pretend it's the same reason when we do the instance on regular mode. :D

Comment by aakroma

Can the Glaives be added to the wardrobe by a DK?

Comment by aakroma

Can these be added to the wardrobe by DKs?

Comment by Deastrumquodvici

Sadly, this does not get added to appearances tab, not as a sword or as a glaive. Which, unfortunately, means that you can't mog your fancy shmancy artifact weapons to look like this beauty.

Comment by Khanez

I just got this on my demohunter i cant belive it! 2 weeks of doing Black Temple and i got them.

Comment by JonnyNRG

Well, today was a bit lucky.

I was on my dh, finishing the invasions and got boredSo I ran through ICC for the first time on my dh to try my luck for invincible. Somehow I got it, and that made my day better instantly. A few hours later of being bored in SW I wondered if dh's could wield the warglaives (If they couldn't then wtf) and someone told me they could. So obviously I went down to Black Temple to test my luck even more today and I got this, the main hand. Bear in mind it was my first try on my dh in ICC and BT in which I got both of these, when I've been trying to get them for years. Just baffles me that this can happen, anyway you guys might not care but I'm just happy that it happened.

Comment by Therev71

Holy smokes! I was so happy! I did Black temple on my DH for the first time and Warglaives dropped!

I hearthed back to org to transmog it to my main hand and lo and behold......

it cant be transmogged.

Sad Demon Hunter.

Comment by Tommilford

Are people other than DH's getting these babies to drop? I did BT, in back to back weeks and got both the main and offhand to drop as a DH. I can't remember the spec I was in the first week I got the main hand to drop, but the second week I was a Vengence Dh with the artifact weapons and got the offhand to drop.

Comment by Portalspace

The only warglaive classified as a sword.

Comment by Starbuxx

This just dropped for me on my mage.. even if i cant use it i screamed in joy.. never had a legendary drop in a raid.. my wife was unimpressed.. :P

Comment by Machista

Dropped on my Priest after 2-3 runs while grinding RepSaving it anyway, maybe one day Priests will be able to equip Swords.

P.s Best method is to run with a DH and skip with the stairs, make it so much faster...youtube has some examples.

Edit: Got both on my DH, the right hand dropped after 2 tries i think, the left hand took about 7-8 runs...(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Thulm##DELIM##

Comment by windygamer

This weapon says "Unique" and has a bonus for equipping two of them. Huh?How do you equip 2 of a "Unique" weapon?

Comment by Extremity

Demon Hunters can now equip these, thankfully!

A new transmog item "set" token is being added in patch 7.2.5, unlocking this weapon transmog appearance for Demon Hunters.

A completed set of the original warglaives (and the achievement granted by wielding it) will be required to obtain this transmog item set; once you've unlocked said achievement, your next Illidan kill during the timewalking event (not original Illidan, only the timewalking version) will have a 100% to grant the item set appearance if done on your Demon Hunter. Better get to farming out a glaive set if you haven't already!

Comment by tejabollempalli1

As of patch 7.2.5 only Demon hunters can transmog them. you need to kill Illidan weilding both your Main hand and Off hand warglaives, which will unlock the achievement to xmog them. good luck farming.

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Comment by Tuts

Am I doing something wrong here? cause its the 5th time i got this main hand but no off hand yet

Comment by Undertaker807

I don't know if it made a difference to the loot tables, but I went to the Black Temple with the off-hand Warglaive of Azzinoth in my bag. Looted this main hand off Illidan at 23:10 Pacific time. Still a shame we can't transmog these classic legendaries.

Comment by Rudy199

Is it possible that he drops both of them at the same time?

Comment by ayasato69

tfw u get it on the wrong class.. my paladin has it in bank since maybe 6 months i just can't throw them away