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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

this coffee is really bad...so why do i keep drinking it?
ok, so is this a contest...cause give me 52 pages and a no. 2 pencil and i'm good to go....

angst...oh baby, don't get me started. ... i am so upset (actually i let myself get upset), by the fools who are trying to run this country (into the ground), and just as upset by the fools who let them do it.... we all have our opinions of the corporate f**k up FOX...well truth be told...they are just an arm of Blue Sun..er ah, George Bush & Co....

Environmental protection...ha, what a joke...maybe all the science fiction writers who start their stories with a major apocalypse happening to the planet are not far off. At the rate that we are ruining the earth, i only hope we have have time to figure out how to get away from here before it's too late. Earth that was...? dosen't seem so far fetched to me....

So I'm at my parents for my "birthday dinner". Don't get me wrong, I like my parents BUT I had a horrible revelation. I'm starting to see things through my dad's eyes.
What started it was, he's a big fan of tribute CD's. He has a tribute to Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash, Gordon Lightfoot, Bob Dyan etc. all the stuff I didn't like growning up.

Here's the scary part... I found myself liking the music. So I leave there feeling... well.. old and with Johnny Cash stuck in my head. I get home and pop in Space Above and Beyond, and there he is again, Johnny Cash.

I fracking well bloody hate Mondays, and Thursdays, and fridays. And I am soon to be unemployed and I am poor and S3 is too far away and I cryed today......

AhhhhhAAHHHHHHaaahhhhhAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

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For those who believe no explanation is necessary, for those who do not no explanation will do.
"Bukkake, Shut up Alison!" Jonny Wallet Tourettes
"Alison, don't you know this world is killing you?" - Nathan Fillion sang me a song!

They fired me on Wednesday...two F*CKIN' weeks before I went to settlement on my first house...becuase I'm not "a team player"... and I won't lie to the state inspector...because my boss falsifies documents and thinks it's funny...and those 4 horsemen of the apocalypse at the end of the hall get away with everything...I bet they're laughing it up (after they tell everyone who's next!)...and that's the most the owner ever said to me, when she was firing me...and they lied to everyone about why I was fired...and they won't let me come and get my stuff until it's convenient for them (like they need a pic of my husband and niece)...and every time I need to call to tell her something she's all sugary sweet like we were EVER friends......

WHEW

It's ok though...got a higher paying job already. Still good to have a nice rant once in a while. Thanks.

mondays are so bad, i can't even get a decent rant going.... ok, let me qualify that....mondays at work are so bad...yada yada yada....

and where the hell is this four day work week i've heard about since 1995?? and where is my personal hover craft that i read about in Mechanics Illustrated in 1962..... and where is my house cleaning robot like on the Jetsons...and where are the condensed meals in a pill that you just add water to and eat like on Wylie Coyote...huh???

and why do i reference everything to old Meri Melodies cartoons??? and...and...***pauses to catch breath****...and please for the love of mike tell me why Firefly isn't still on the stupid idiot box???? (ok..so maybe it was too smart to be on the idiot box....)

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

Quote:Originally posted by seryn:
will your teeth glow in UV? how fun is that?

oh, sorry. Grrrr Arrgh!

Wacky fun - I hadn't thought of that! I'll let you know... I have two fake teeth up front, could be a riot!

Um... my only serious rant today would involve it being the first day of spring and yet there will be no greenery or niceness in my local 'verse for at least a month. Why oh why do I keep moving north?

Some of you people that live in happy nature places go outside and pet a snowdrop or a crocus or something, okay? Appreciate that you have something more than mud and dead trees!

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if it helps we don't have any snow drops or crocuses either. They maybe too pollution strangled. But we get our cherry blossoms starting in a few weeks, so I will wear some in my hair especcially for you!

ok, I started ranting in the Random thread, I think I need to move it here, and rub it out there. -

Yeah *shudder* having just spent the winter trying to avoid seeing (and failing miserably) rolls of fat splurging out over the tops of skinny fit jeans all winter, please PLEASE DONT make them take any more off. Its bad enough seeing all the fat footie boozers proudly displaying their pasty hairy beer bellys at the first hint of sunshine peeking through the April clouds.

You know how you guys have signs saying shirts and shoes or we wont serve you? we don't have them, so trips anywhere become exercises in dodging the sweaty half naked bloke.

A trip on the underground was unbearable. Which is why some bright spark hit upon the idea of fainting at the start of it.

Its not that I have anything against nudists, but if I wanted to see a saggy patsy arse or a pair of jungle tits swinging free, i'd enrole in life drawing class again.

(and btw, I'm fat myself, the difference being that I have taste, so i'm not just on a fat bashing mission, i'm on a stupid style-deprived, intellectually-retarded spoon-fed tasteless chav bashing one)

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

This is my favorite - not a bad body story, just bad choice of outfits...

At Shakespeare in the Common a few summers ago, I was having a lovely time picnicing, and just as McBeth started (put yourself in a MacBeth frame of mind before you picture this), at that time of evening when the sky is glowing mellow and blue, this woman came and sat right in front of me. She was wearing black low ride pants and a black high rise top and a white thong that made this HUGE white T on her lower back. Something about the evening light made it GLOW. It was the funniest thing ever, I think people were guffawing for like 20 meters back.

Luckily she didn't stay long. Can't deal with that and "Out out damned spot" at the same time!

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yeah, we had one like that, this woman had too tight everything, too tight bra, to tight tights, too tight knickers,under too tight lycra. hell, she looked like a caterpillar, all segmented, that or the Michelin Man.

And I can see how day-glo thongs and the scottish play just don't go together.

But the absolute worst thing ever?

Camels Foot Syndrome.

bleurgh! oh gods, its awful.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

That's all I got.
But friend, who will be known as Eward, has something to rant about:
I came home after school.... it was some day of the week, and my Uncle Pat was there..the blender was on and I didn't know why..I had already been informed we would be consuming sloppy josephs, which is what caused my confusion at the presence of the blender. It was a mystery as well how the fridge was deprived of everything. Bare. That was when I noticed that the lasagna I had been saving since CHristmas was gone. I felt anger. That was when I saw what was in the blender. It also answered the question of why nothing was in the fridge. I asked my UNcle Pat: What happened to Sloppy Josephs? He answered: Oh, they're in there somewhere.

I got dumped yesterday. Goddamn boys says they're commited to you but as soon as you tell them you are too they run for the hills because you feel more than they do and they're never going to feel as much as you do. And how the hell does he know how I feel. Then he gets to go on and on and on telling me how we can be friends and I'm like um no. I don't want to be your friend. Crap for brains. Stupid men! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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I kept moaning because we didn't get snow. We never get snow in Dublin any more. Everyone else had snow and we didn't. I wanted to see some snow, dammit! It didn't have to stick or anything, I just wanted to see pretty flakes falling from the sky, instead of the sleet or hail we usually get.

Last Thursday it snowed.

And our heating broke down.

And while I'm at it ... I've wanted to get this off my chest for ages. Why the hell are people here bashing Buffy???? That's the last thing I expected on this forum! I've seen more snide comments about it here than I've had to put up with from my soap opera reality show loving housemates! Have any of you even watched the show???

I don't even understand what the problem is! Is it because it's set in a high school? Because they graduated after three years the same way most other students do! Is it because it has vampires and demons? C'mon, we watch a show about cowboys in space! If a sci-fi show can give a scarily accurate portrayal of our moderm world, why can't a fantasy show do the same?

I mean, we're all agreed that Joss is a genius, right? And he created Buffy and Angel as well as Firefly, right? So ... what? He just left his brain at home for the first eight years he worked in TV and ~then~ decided he was going to pour all his creative brilliance into a TV show?

I truly don't understand how sci-fi fans can dismiss a show like Buffy as being no more worthy than drivel like Charmed or (and this one had me fuming for nearly a week!) Beverly Hills 90210. Do you really, honestly, truly think that anything written by Joss would be even remotely as mind numbingly mundane as those shows?

I'm not saying that every episode of the show was perfect - there were some stinkers in the seven years it ran. And I'm not saying everyone should be a fan - I know a show about vampires isn't everyone's cup of O negative. What I ~am~ saying is that if you're not into a show about teens or vampires or whatever, you shouldn't dismiss it as bad writing. It's just a genre that doesn't interest you. That doesn't always mean that it's awful. I really expected Firefly fans, of all people, to know that.

Cripes, Buffy was the only thing worht watching some times. And In over two hundred episodes, yes there are going to be bad ones, Hell, If Firefly had run for two hundred eps (oh gods don't we wish?) we'd be saying 'such and such and episode wasn't so great' but come on, only compared to their own standards, even an absolute Buffy stinker would still be infinitly preferable to all the season there wver where of Charmed.

God don't even mention 90210.

bleurgh. seriously, where are the anti-buffy posts? i've not seen them. (mind you, not left talk for a little while)

um, you got another one of those suits?

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

I don't want to point out particular posters because a) they're entitled to their opinion and b) I don't want to start a board war over it, but I have seen a fair few Buffy bashing posts. It's not all I've seen. I've seen loads of pro-Buffy posts, some very insightful debates as well as the usual Buffy fan rants (fans who wish the last two seasons never happened, who hated Seeing Red and the consequences, who didn't like season seven, the usual stuff that we argue about amoung ourselves!)

What shocked me was seeing posters here dismiss the whole show out of hand, even saying they were put off watching Firefly because of it! All I can say is ... what??? Even if you didn't like the genre, you must have realised the writing was good! I mean, unless the only episode you saw was Bad Eggs or something...

I got dumped yesterday. Goddamn boys says they're commited to you but as soon as you tell them you are too they run for the hills because you feel more than they do and they're never going to feel as much as you do. And how the hell does he know how I feel. Then he gets to go on and on and on telling me how we can be friends and I'm like um no. I don't want to be your friend. Crap for brains. Stupid men! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Be your friend? You should have laughed in his face. People like that should have their asses kicked. Sorry you got dumped, join the club, and get in line and take a number. The only good man is a humilated, defiled man.

Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez:
She was wearing black low ride pants and a black high rise top and a white thong that made this HUGE white T on her lower back.

Something similar happened in one of my classes a few years ago, but since I'm incredibly tactless I somewhat loudly announced it to my friend. The girl tried to fix it. I then muttered "didn't work". So I can be a bit of a bitch . . . .

Enter rant(s):

1. WHY CAN'T MY ROOMMATE CLEAN ANYTHING? SHE'S A LAZY INCOMPETENT MORON AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY? JESUS! IF THE GARBAGE IS FULL, EMPTY IT. IF THE INTERNET DIES, CALL THE CABLE COMPANY, NOT YOUR SISTER. WHEN THE DISH RACK IS FULL, PUT THE DISHES AWAY!!!!!! She makes me furious and raises my blood pressure. At least my other roommate is totally awesome.

2. I'm not trying to rehash the South Dakota abortion ban debate, I just need to scream about a narrow-minded, self-righteous, a-hole named Bill Napoli. He's a Republican Senator for Rapid City and thinks abortion should only be allowed when: "A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life." I'M SORRY, BUT ALL RAPES, SEXUAL ASSAULTS, ETC ARE TRAUMATIZING TO THE VICTIM. NOT JUST THE SO-CALLED "VIOLENT" ONES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GIRL IS A VIRGIN, RELIGIOUS, OR NOT. IT'S STILL A CRIME, IT'S STILL TRAUMATIC, AND IT WILL STILL HAVE LASTING PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS. But then again, I'm sure he gets raped all the time, so he must know how it is.

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Quote:Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Why the hell are people here bashing Buffy????

not a BB (Buff basher)...that was the show that introduced me to mr. Whedon....i had to go back to find some of his other stuff (Roseanne), just to check out his writting skills....Buffy was great. Angel was just as good (for me)...but the guy got it all right with Firefly.

So, i get a little upset when people bash Buffy, too. I've had people tell me what a crappy show it was... people who haven't even seen it...

This brings me back to a previous rant. I just don't know anymore. You can buy the books, send them to school...but there are some people who are just hopelessly uninformed...misguided....apathetic...(i'm trying to be nice)...damn it...just plain stupid.... (i give you George Bush as a prime example)... "Shrub" as he is known here in Texas is so much not a leader...so much not presidential material...so much not the man of god that he pretends to be.... and the good citizens of this wacked out country keep trusting this guy..not to mention re-electing the bozo.... And what is sad (to the point of major depression) is the fact that in a few years there will be some other clown just as bad who will be chosen by the same god-fearing homophobes who put Shrub & his cronies in power....

So tell me, why is it that people refuse to learn from the mistakes of the past....? Are we doomed to repeat the same bloody history of warmongoring chicken-hawks and tyranical rulers.....

Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez:
She was wearing black low ride pants and a black high rise top and a white thong that made this HUGE white T on her lower back.

Something similar happened in one of my classes a few years ago, but since I'm incredibly tactless I somewhat loudly announced it to my friend. The girl tried to fix it. I then muttered "didn't work". So I can be a bit of a bitch . . . .

Enter rant(s):

1. WHY CAN'T MY ROOMMATE CLEAN ANYTHING? SHE'S A LAZY INCOMPETENT MORON AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY? JESUS! IF THE GARBAGE IS FULL, EMPTY IT. IF THE INTERNET DIES, CALL THE CABLE COMPANY, NOT YOUR SISTER. WHEN THE DISH RACK IS FULL, PUT THE DISHES AWAY!!!!!! She makes me furious and raises my blood pressure. At least my other roommate is totally awesome.

2. I'm not trying to rehash the South Dakota abortion ban debate, I just need to scream about a narrow-minded, self-righteous, a-hole named Bill Napoli. He's a Republican Senator for Rapid City and thinks abortion should only be allowed when: "A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life." I'M SORRY, BUT ALL RAPES, SEXUAL ASSAULTS, ETC ARE TRAUMATIZING TO THE VICTIM. NOT JUST THE SO-CALLED "VIOLENT" ONES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GIRL IS A VIRGIN, RELIGIOUS, OR NOT. IT'S STILL A CRIME, IT'S STILL TRAUMATIC, AND IT WILL STILL HAVE LASTING PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS. But then again, I'm sure he gets raped all the time, so he must know how it is.

now I pass off the ranting torch . . .

Men don't know what the fuck they are talking about, and 90% of them are complete idiots, and if I had my way that 90% would be castrated and then disemboweled in front of a pack of waiting, hungry, wolves who would feast on their innards, and I would rejoice to the sound of their lasts, muffled screams...but that's just me.

Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez:
She was wearing black low ride pants and a black high rise top and a white thong that made this HUGE white T on her lower back.

Something similar happened in one of my classes a few years ago, but since I'm incredibly tactless I somewhat loudly announced it to my friend. The girl tried to fix it. I then muttered "didn't work". So I can be a bit of a bitch . . . .

Enter rant(s):

1. WHY CAN'T MY ROOMMATE CLEAN ANYTHING? SHE'S A LAZY INCOMPETENT MORON AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY? JESUS! IF THE GARBAGE IS FULL, EMPTY IT. IF THE INTERNET DIES, CALL THE CABLE COMPANY, NOT YOUR SISTER. WHEN THE DISH RACK IS FULL, PUT THE DISHES AWAY!!!!!! She makes me furious and raises my blood pressure. At least my other roommate is totally awesome.

2. I'm not trying to rehash the South Dakota abortion ban debate, I just need to scream about a narrow-minded, self-righteous, a-hole named Bill Napoli. He's a Republican Senator for Rapid City and thinks abortion should only be allowed when: "A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life." I'M SORRY, BUT ALL RAPES, SEXUAL ASSAULTS, ETC ARE TRAUMATIZING TO THE VICTIM. NOT JUST THE SO-CALLED "VIOLENT" ONES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GIRL IS A VIRGIN, RELIGIOUS, OR NOT. IT'S STILL A CRIME, IT'S STILL TRAUMATIC, AND IT WILL STILL HAVE LASTING PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS. But then again, I'm sure he gets raped all the time, so he must know how it is.

now I pass off the ranting torch . . .

Men don't know what the fuck they are talking about, and 90% of them are complete idiots, and if I had my way that 90% would be castrated and then disemboweled in front of a pack of waiting, hungry, wolves who would feast on their innards, and I would rejoice to the sound of their lasts, muffled screams...but that's just me.

Quote:Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Men don't know what the fuck they are talking about......90%....are complete idiots...if I had my way that 90% would be castrated.....disemboweled in front of a pack of waiting, hungry, wolves......feast on their innards...but that's just me.]

oh, i'm not going to start any wars, I just genuinly hadn't seen any of the bashing posts, generally FF fans a Whedon fans, they 'get' his work, and like it.

But like I said I haven't left talk for a while.

Quote:I wish I had my own Terminator to control.

I'm with ya there sweetie.

My first ever "serious relationship" we danced around each other for months, I finally decided that if I didn't do anything, nothing would happen. So I started it, short while, we were happy, getting on fine he even talked to his mom about me, not having any hang-ups with the whole 'saving myself for my wedding night' guff, we did the dirty, and few days later? " I just don't think you are ready for the commitment, you're to young, this is moving to quickly, blah blah blah, yadda yadda etc,

Patronising git. Stupid idiot as well, he was getting a 'perfect' deal as well - I liked him enough to spend time with him, enjoyed having him in my life and all the stufff that come with, but had no intention of ever dragging him down an aisle.

So I think, 'it must be me, I must be completely unlovable, it was just pity...

I felt just great, took years and several bad flngs to work that one out and get over it.

Some men just don't know a good thing when they see it.

He has a divorce and a kid now. Oh well, for him.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

Quote:Originally posted by seryn:
yeah, we had one like that, this woman had too tight everything, too tight bra, to tight tights, too tight knickers,under too tight lycra. hell, she looked like a caterpillar, all segmented, that or the Michelin Man.

I know what you mean. I can't stand it when girls dress like that, as if tight=sexy, especially if they are overwieght (shudder).
I, personally am a fat girl. I don't like it (am currently working on a diet) but I don't dress like I weigh 120 lbs either! I mean what the f?!? Don't they realize that wearing a tupe top and low rise jeans just makes them look worse?

On another note, I can't stand beautiful, well sized girls complaining about how fat thay are! I would kill to look like some of those girls. Like my cousin. She's 5ft 9 in, has had two kids and wears a size 10 and can't stop complaining about how fat she is. AAUUUUUUUUHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

Ah, you see to me only about 10% are bad. I just haven't met the other 90% (personally) yet.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

DAMN YOU GUYS! I am LOVING this thread.. and it is supposed to be about being miserable and ranting.. hard to keep up the full steam when you all are so good at venting and making me laugh
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Kicking whomever OFF the soapbox and SHRIEKING in most unpleasant tones....

IT'S FRIGGIN' Monday! It is STILL RAINING and grey, I had to drive two hours in the rain for a meeting.... I have company at home I HAVE to leave work early to visit with and I have sooo much work I am having a nervous breakdown... but still I gotta leave...

My old CAR that I LOVE TO BITS finally died beyond redemption and I HAD TO BUY A NEW CAR (ok used but new to me) so I have payments AGAIN...

and on top of all that... Firefly is STILL not renewed somewhere....

grrrrr

ok.. do I feel better??? Nope.. but I DO feel surrounded by like minded "friends..." thanks for listening

I don't know. What get my goat about the whole fat issue is this diet culture. I mean its all you ever hear some women talk about for f's sakes. Jeasus, I mean I'd rather look like jabba the hut and be able to converse animatedly about a hundred different subjects over a plate of pizze than sit picking over a salad and scowl my way through a dissection of the calorific values of a digestive buscuit. I mean hell, talking about dieting is about as sexy as talking about how you like to go out at night and fondle roadkill.

Plus theres this whole issue of, yeah, I could diet, loose weight, tone up, look like Kate sodding Moss, and I could get a great job, a cute boyfriend, be the belle of the ball. but hang on, wouldn't that mean that i'm not good enough if i'm not skinny? are only skinny people allowed to be happy? do fat people have to be punished? cause thats the impression I get from society.

I would rather achieve all those things now, exactly as I am, based on who I am. And by that I mean my mind, my personality, because hey, the way Kate Moss is going, she's going to be really really ugly, very soon, and then what has she got going for her.?

The only thing about my appearence I care about is my face - its how I communicate whats in my head, and hell, i'm pretty damn happy with it, even the imperfections, they make me different, and the thing I hate most is being lumped in with others for the stupidest of reasons.

I want to loose weight, but the ONLY reason for that is I have a hereditary weakness in my ankle, my mother has the same thing, and has damaged it irrevocably, so loosing any wieght may help avoid the same thing. But only may, it could, and probably will, make no difference whatsoever. So I'm not in any hurry to kill my self on a diet, and i'm not going to stop enjoying myself out of some enforced guilt.

Grrrgh.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

I take it you live in the DC metro area 1978? My bit of angst: I drove to DC this morning, spent 2 hours in traffic listening to weird people rant on the metro. Get to the office (borrowed, I have none there, not even a phone), go to the 15 minute staff meeting and get told You can go home, we don't need you today.

Spent three hours in fricking traffic! And well sex... nothing more need be said on that topic right now.

As for fashion -- live in southern MD and go to Wal-Mart for a check on the what not to wear!

Quote:Originally posted by seryn:
I don't know. What get my goat about the whole fat issue is this diet culture. I mean its all you ever hear some women talk about for f's sakes. Jeasus, I mean I'd rather look like jabba the hut and be able to converse animatedly about a hundred different subjects over a plate of pizze than sit picking over a salad and scowl my way through a dissection of the calorific values of a digestive buscuit. I mean hell, talking about dieting is about as sexy as talking about how you like to go out at night and fondle roadkill.

Plus theres this whole issue of, yeah, I could diet, loose weight, tone up, look like Kate sodding Moss, and I could get a great job, a cute boyfriend, be the belle of the ball. but hang on, wouldn't that mean that i'm not good enough if i'm not skinny? are only skinny people allowed to be happy? do fat people have to be punished? cause thats the impression I get from society.

I would rather achieve all those things now, exactly as I am, based on who I am. And by that I mean my mind, my personality, because hey, the way Kate Moss is going, she's going to be really really ugly, very soon, and then what has she got going for her.?

The only thing about my appearence I care about is my face - its how I communicate whats in my head, and hell, i'm pretty damn happy with it, even the imperfections, they make me different, and the thing I hate most is being lumped in with others for the stupidest of reasons.

I want to loose weight, but the ONLY reason for that is I have a hereditary weakness in my ankle, my mother has the same thing, and has damaged it irrevocably, so loosing any wieght may help avoid the same thing. But only may, it could, and probably will, make no difference whatsoever. So I'm not in any hurry to kill my self on a diet, and i'm not going to stop enjoying myself out of some enforced guilt.

Grrrgh.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

I've kept myself about the size of a tooth-pick all of my life because, like so many other women I was programmed with the idiotic notion that we should look like we are 16 years old regardless if we're 44. I look like I'm in perfect shape but I'm fucking hungry all the time because men only want women who look like children....how right is that?

It’s all up in the media. The images that are projected are small women that look 16 years old. You see it in the magazine racks. You see it in movies and on television. The unspoken message is clear as rain…If you are fat, no one will love you. If you are fat, no one will show you respect, but if you look like a 16 year old girl dressed in tight, sexy, bonded clothing, society as a whole will throw themselves at you. You are suddenly such a “sweet girl” men want to mate with you, kids love you…everyone wants to fuck you. I’m sick of it.

I think my mission for the rest of this year should be to grow fat. I’ve never been fat, but now I think its time. I’m going to order a pizza with everything on it!!!!

Trying to get fat just triples your health issues, just eat when you want to. For god sake, its your body, no-one elses.

But what you said is true, no one respects you when you are fat - I get it all the time, and its not just retarded pikey brats calling you names in the street. Its everyone. I'm upset, everyone assumes its because i'm fat, i'm shy in social situation, its because i'm fat.

I'm not allowed to be a person, i'm not a fully functioning human being, I don't have a full range of emotions, thoughts, and desires, because to others I stop and start at my excess body tissue.

Even supposed medical professionals can't see it - starting when I was young, I went to see if I had allergies, I was given a nasal spray and told 'I would feel better if I lost a bit of weight'. In college I went for advice on counselling, I was having so many problems with debts and crap like that, i'd just found out I was dyslexic and was facing an uphill struggle to get any kind of help for it, I had all that unresolved crap I mentioned earlier, plus another two relationships worth and what does the doctor say? 'you might feel better if you lost a bit of weight'.

Even lately, i've been chronically tired, no balance and freguently dizzy and nauseous, so I went to ask about the tiredness, 'I'm sure you would feel better if you lost weight' and I end up in Fat Asses Anonymous. Which triggers, yup, you guessed it, the depression.

Aparently, allergies, depression and dizziness/vertigo and tiredness are all caused by, and only ever happen to people with, fat arses.

Years ago, fat people used to be venerated, they were 'jolly' happy go lucky, baccanalian, in love with life and all its splendours, wise and kind and human.

Now even Santa appears to be dieting.

Fat people have lost their PR team somewhere, now they are nothing but half people, shallow paintings greedily using more than their fair share of paint - 'if we credit them with minds of their own, then we can't feel superior to to them, and then we'll have to go back to bullying gay and black people'

So no-one respects fat people, because they are represented as one dimensional freaks devoid of the humanity of 'normal' people. (you want proof? Apainting of a nude, thin, it is interpreted in terms of personality and thought, a fat person? It is a study of the flesh)

And note that I will never use the words 'plus size' or 'fuller figured' how bloody patronising do you need to be. Lets stick to adjectives and facts, not stupid PC labels, designed solely to keep fat people in their place, separated from the good people trying to shop for their nice clothes without being bothered by the distressing sight of a body that doesn't hit the dictated norm.

Which is where my beef with women who wear badly fitting clothes come from. Its about self respect, and dressing to reflect yourself. These women in crap fitting clothes are invariably only wearing them because some womans rag has told them that to be found attractive they must wear this or that, and this and that can only be found in sizes to small, and they haven't got either the confidence or the imagination to say no, screw you, i'm going to wear what makes me feel good, and if it happens to co-incide with what you say is ok, then so be it, but until then, go play hopscotch across a motorway.

oh my god i'm on a roll...

(*disclaimer, I am of course, taliking from personal experience, generalising, and excepting present company etc, etc, I know full well that it not how all people think, but I am speaking mainly of the unwashed masses and certain members of the supposed 'intellectual' 'artistic' and 'cultural' societys.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

She reason that most of the big fashion housed are headed by gay men, and who do gay men fancy? other men, and what does the whole world find attractive? youth. So basically, all these designers are designing what they find sexy, young men. Even Jean Paul Gautier, the one who designs are most 'feminine' distorts and almost parodies the female form - Madonnas conical bar? your telling me that that was a celebration of tits?

Versace, Galliano, those two muppets with the bad hair, every single one of them. Only the Celebrity led fashions (i.e. J.Lo wears a waist cincher, everyone follows suit) are ever feminine.

The rest of the time, the spend all their efforts squishing boobs and lowering waist bands in an effort to distract away from the fact that woen go in at the waist. Which is why so many women nowadays seem seem so monstrously top heavy, wide shoulders down to tiny compressed hips, the waist abandonesd totally.

only feet are allowed to differ from mens shoes, but that is because high heels lengthen and dainty, pointy toes add to the male 'triangular' shape.

Only Donna Karan, Vera Wang, and primarily Vivienne Westwood allow their models to actually be female.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

Today I returned to my dorm room to find POOP, yes, feces, ON MY DOORKNOB! For the second time this year!!! Worst part is - my roommates and I don't have any obvious enemies, so we have no idea who hates us this much or why! We are quiet chem-free NERDS! WHO HATES US?!?!?!?

Also, my school's chorus was supposed to be going on a trip to Europe during my senior year, but they're going NEXT year instead, so I can't go anymore!!!!! And they're going to ROME and I'm a freaking Classics major!!!

ARGH!

"Dear Diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

Can I say on behalf of a good many men everywhere: give me a girl with some meat on her bones, gorramit! 'Cause bones ain't all that sexy last time I checked. Where is all this stuff coming from in our culture that's making women complain about their thighs and how big their butts and such? Cause it ain't comin' from me... For frell's sake, good child-bearin' hips are what my inner caveman craves in the first place ;p

Isn't it all about being healthy? What's with all this diet stuff anyways? I figure you eat good wholesome meals and get some regular exercise and the rest sort of takes care of itself. I got some extra pounds on me myself, so I can hardly expect anyone else to do much better. But I also know the spare tire I'm hauling around is from not being all that disciplined about what I shove into my mouth.

(Edited, and edited, and edited down, 'cause the rest of my rant was going in a rather crude manner... :)

To tie it all in to a Firefly-related topic. When I heard that Jewel gained 20 pounds to play Kaylee in the series I kinda wondered how tiny she was before that. 'Cause well, Kaylee's just about right, and whatever the frell "zoftig" is supposed to mean... well I guess I'll take that with a side of yes please I guess. (And then I'll move on 'cause it ain't all that gentlemanly to be discussing a lady's weight and all.)

Whew... hadn't ranted in awhile. Good thread ;p

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You can take my hope when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Its probably a blessing and a curse, and probably the rout cause of that depression (though also, interestingly enough, the cure)

Oh blissful Ingnorance, why wouldst thou not be mine?

Also helps that i'm a student of fashion history. People will tell you that clothes are the way they are because they are pretty.

Nope, wrong.

Theres more politics going on in a corset than there is in the House of Commons. Well, Lords maybe.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

Oh God! I'm not trying to be cray about dieting Seryn. I just mean getting a bit more in shape cause I feel like crap physically. I also have shin spints and a fondness for going barefoot. Put together with my wieght and it gets a little painful. Losing some weight would help with that some.
The image thing really bugs me too. It really pisses me off when I can't find any decent looking clothes (not ugly sacks or stuff for the over 40 crowd) in my size. Anything even remotely interesting ends at about size 12. And like I said I know some beautiful folks who think that they're fat. I get irritated with them but I get pissed at the culture that convinced them that they have to be a 90 lb waif to be attractive.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

this is the venting thread, and I was doing just that. And yeah, I know one female, the whole of my life, who didn't sooner of later go 'i'm watching my weight.

Like I said, i'm not against healthiness, I'm trying to loose it for the sake of that ankle (and to be honest just because I like the idea of treadmills (Run Forest! Run!) and rowing machines, they sound... distracting.

and at the base of it, humans shouldn't carry too much fat. Storing energy is a survival mechanism, and when you eat everyday its not really necessary, so the only fat you need is enough for the healthy functioning of your body (yup Cosmo, you listening? Fat exists because your body needs it! oooooh, scary) and no more.

But even healthy is to fat for the rags, so...

but good luck, I hope you loose what you want and your leg problems clear up. Just don't what ever you do, become a diet bore. Spend at least four hourse of every day talking with out saying the word 'diet' once.

Preserve your brain! For somereason, the personality always seems to be the first thing shed in any diet, with some people anyway.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

The brain is key. I do agree with that. If I can't have an intelligent conversation with someone I lose interest in them. Stupid and/or vapid floks irritate the out of me. I like my brain how it is and I don't mean to let it drip out of myears for any reason.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

I giggled so hard I almost choked, and now I don't have anyrant left in me.

Well, work tomorrow, will have then.

Love y'll my venting buddies.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.

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