If you like anything that Obama has tried to do, you are immediately labeled and belittled as some kind of moonbat, liberal extreme left communist, socialist big government idiot.

The Right seem to dominate this forum and I fall somewhere in the middle so its difficult to discuss topics without having to wade through all the name calling.

There are some very smart people on both sides of the isle in here which is why I still come in here but it would be nice to have discussions without all the nonsense.

Well to be honest, I don't consider calling something socialist, communist or big govt to be a form belittling. It's calling a spade a spade. Some just don't like those policies. A label is just a form of shorthand for an idea or set of ideas. It just needs to be accurate.

Look I nominated you as a 3rd party candidate for president of Chiefs Planet DC. I expect a little less lip in return damn it~

I hope you're being sarcastic here. Because if not, then you misunderstand if you think it's "lip." It's an important point. At least to me. They co-opted the term. Small govt types are the real liberals aka classical liberals. The left, today, is not worthy of the word.

I hope you're being sarcastic here. Because if not, then you misunderstand if you think it's "lip." It's an important point. At least to me. They co-opted the term. Small govt types are the real liberals aka classical liberals. The left, today, is not worthy of the word.