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Overpay for Greinke only if it means locking up Kershaw as well...
Cap and Harang could both get traded and Ryu may not even be a Dodger I think we only put that bid on him as a backup plan. But say if the Dodgers add Ryu and a greinke/kuroda/haren that means cap lilly and harang all could end up getting traded.
Lets not forget either that we got guys on this team that will get traded in 2-3 years(crawford,ethier,etc). In the meantime we can be set at the top of our rotation for at least 5 years with kershaw/greinke. Pitching/defense comes first right?

I think Grienke and Ryu is the plan. I don't think it will be very hard to trade Harang and Capuano. Caps might be worth keeping. Lilly will be tough to move. They would probably have to eat a bunch of money. I can see them keeping Lilly as a back up plan. I think the team will spend big money on starting pitching. They don't need much on offense except a right handed OF bat to come off the bench. I'm really hoping Cruz gets a starting job, preferably SS. The bullpen is very strong but any upgrades there would not really be considered "spending" with the budget they've shown. I think the only place the team can really improve by spending is starting pitching and that would have to be Grienke and Ryu.

I was responding to Dodgerbluemmm because with what he posted it seemed like he thought the posting fee was gone forever and would be a waste if you guys didn't sign him. Not sure why you responded about what you thought (I don't mean it in a bad way) or maybe you're just adding onto what I said? Just not sure.

I'm not sure where he'll sign, but I'll tell you this, if we sign Greinke, I'll run down the street naked, I'll be so happy

PAUSE!!! LOL

Originally Posted by dodgernation

On MLBTR today they posted how the Angels are looking into Kuroda now as an insurance plan "in case" they don't get Greinke. To me it sounds like they don't want to pay him what he wants (can't blame them either 7yr/175mill is ridiculous) but nonetheless is anyone else getting that feeling that we will pull the trigger and sign this guy?

I think Grienke and Ryu is the plan. I don't think it will be very hard to trade Harang and Capuano. Caps might be worth keeping. Lilly will be tough to move. They would probably have to eat a bunch of money. I can see them keeping Lilly as a back up plan. I think the team will spend big money on starting pitching. They don't need much on offense except a right handed OF bat to come off the bench. I'm really hoping Cruz gets a starting job, preferably SS. The bullpen is very strong but any upgrades there would not really be considered "spending" with the budget they've shown. I think the only place the team can really improve by spending is starting pitching and that would have to be Grienke and Ryu.

Greinke and Ryu are what I have been saying all along. With those guys in our rotation, we are stacked 1-5. I think Ryu will transition over here very well if he is signed. He has some nasty pitches. The winter meetings will tell us a lot about the makeup of our team next season imo. Although, idk what I would trade Harang and Capuano for at this point. Might as well cash in on one of them at least while their value is still high after the good seasons they both had.

Wise, I even say we should not give to any pitcher, (only Kershaw maybe) more than a 4 years contract. Kevin Brown, Kevin Millwood, Bary Zito, Jason Scmidt for 3 years, imagine more ! darren Dreifort, the re-signing of CC Sabathia, Chan ho Park when he left the Dodgers (to the Rangers?), Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle for the Rockies, AJ Burnett, Matsuzaka, one good season out of 6 for Boston. History is full of bad long term contracts for starting pitchers.

SP is too demanding a position to give 7/8 years contract like Kemp or A-Rod. Or you must accept that you give Greinke 7 years, but he will be healthy a maximum of 4 or 5 years out of the 7.
Or is Greinke the new Pedro Martinez or Randy Johnson ? I would not bet a buck on that!

Greinke and Ryu are what I have been saying all along. With those guys in our rotation, we are stacked 1-5. I think Ryu will transition over here very well if he is signed. He has some nasty pitches. The winter meetings will tell us a lot about the makeup of our team next season imo. Although, idk what I would trade Harang and Capuano for at this point. Might as well cash in on one of them at least while their value is still high after the good seasons they both had.

From what I've seen and read Ryu should be fine. He has the velocity and control. Not to mention no one has ever hit off of him.