re: Vulgar Comments from “Controversies of Gay Marriage”

Last week, following the intense North Carolina Primary, I decided to make a YouTube video regarding the passing of the NC Constitutional Amendment “to provide that marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this state.” I knew that posting this video was going to be controversial, but I had no idea how vulgar the responses were going to get.

Within the first day of posting, the video had received hundreds of views (it’s now up to thousands!) and some really positive and great comments. There were a few who disagreed, but they were at least civil. I was pleasantly surprised. But when I woke up the next day, things turned for the worst. The comments became disgusting, vulgar, and completely stupid. I was appalled.

Typically I would never post vulgarity on my blog, but the true colors of the Left need to be shown, especially considering this time it was directed at a minor. So, here we go:

*BEWARE*

“Hey, you really seem like one stupid c*nt. That being said, I’d still let you wrap yours lips around my c*ck.” via UniversalHourglass

“you think you’re brave because you come out in public spewing your ignorance? no that just makes you foolish. the very reason you make a video is to spread ideas and discussion to people whom you’ve never met. so people make inferences from your video and its up to you to make sure you’re complete with your portrayal. here, you portray stupidity and ignorance.” via funnykoreantv

Okay, I will leave it at that. But if you want to see the rest of the comments you can, here. I must give some credit, though, to the hundreds of people who spoke out in my defense, I appreciate all of you. Here are some of my favorite comments:

“You brought in The Word of God. The moment you do that, you win. Thank you so much for bringing this out- so few conservatives today go back to Scripture.” via ResoundingMusic

“Madeline – you are a brave girl, and for that you will be attacked. Do not lose heart, or allow the liberal socialist haters to demoralize you, confuse you, or demonize you. I would encourage you to continue doing justly, loving mercy and walking humbly with your God. Together, you are a majority!” via rickgio

“Just remember that all the haters on the Left are showing their own intolerance Madeline. They don’t know you and nothing they say about you is true. You are brave and courageous, I wish more young people had your hutzpa. But you are not alone, know that.” via TheRevSean

Thank you to all of you for your continued love and support! Also, don’t forget: the Left is just the loud and annoying minority.

Comments

Keep up the good work Madeleine! It’s great to see young people involved in politics. Sorry about the vulgar comments these liberals threw at a teenager—but, did you expect anything different from most of them?

Don’t be discouraged. we must stand for something or will fall for anything. the germans whom fell for anything got hitler and the atrocities and embarrasment to their nation he created. lets hope more young men and women like you don’t fall for anything or god help us all!

I am glad this young girl is speaking out. You may call her an idot if you would like, but I call her honest and right. You may tell her not to breed if you want, but guess what? She will be the one to breed and bring forth children in this world. That is one of the major factors in a gay marriage or partner ship. God tells us to go forth and multiply and also that man shall not lay with man. When a gay couple does lay together they can not produce children. That is why God made us seperate. He made man and woman. Only a man and a woman can reproduce and create a child (without the benefit of a doctor’s help). God’s word also tells not to hate the sinner but to hate the sin. This young girl is right to go by what the Bible says. This is how my husband and I raise out children, by God’s word. Have I ever sinned? Yes. But I know I can ask God for forgiveness and then I turn away from the sin. I don’t continue to do the same sin over and over. Do I hate gay people? No! We, as Christians, are not suppose to have hate in our heart for any person. We are suppose to share God’s word and to teach others how to turn away from sin with love. The same way God loves us.

The bigotry and intolerance of the “oh so tolerant” left is really a disgusting sight to see. These are the politically correct and “extremely enlightened” (in their own minds) who simply come unglued whenever anyone disagrees with any part of their agenda-driven reality. This display of vulgar, hateful and narrow-minded narrative is proof of who they really are. This is the democrat left, and we can all see what they stand for, or should I say, what they don’t stand for? We’re very proud of you Madeleine. Yours is a voice that we can stand with and believe in. Pay no attention to these fruit loops whose discourse will never be accepted in any civil society anyway. You’re doing a great thing here, and people all over America believe in you. Be strong, and be safe in God’s speed!

I’m a gay man in Oregon and I’m applalled at the hate being directed towards this young lady! This used to be a country where people were free to express thier opinions without being called vile and discusting names. Nothing she has said has been hatefull! I’m getting so tired of the left only respecting free speach when that speach agrees with them. I see it here and with the TEA Party. Both are NON violent (unlike the protests on the left) and are speaking their mind, they should encouraged not rediculed and be the subject of such hate.
I personally don’t agree with her opinion on gay marrage but I will defend her right to state her opinion!
Keep it up and I hope you go into politica this nation needs young people with the guts to state their honest opinions.

Wayne E I disagree with about gay marriage but I applaud you being willing to allow people to speak with freedom and not be threatened. I am always happy to have a civil discussion with people about many topics. Alas, I have found that it is almost impossible to do anymore.

Huh. You know, I read your entire comment, and I think you made a mistake somewhere. God loves us? All of us? Hmmmmmmm……

“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads” (Leviticus 20:13).

Saaay, why don’t you true Christians push for THIS to be law? Isn’t everything your god says perfect? It’s not like something that God said would ever be abhorrently inhumane? I mean, this is what the bible SAYS.

So what if gay people can’t breed? So what? There are infertile women who can’t breed. Some men have difficulty impregnating their mates. Are you tossing everyone who can’t “breed” into the same boat and then claiming they are all ignorant, just because of this minor detail? Not being able to breed is not the same as not being able to eat, drink, or defecate. You can live a happy, fulfilling life even if you don’t have children of your own. You are the dumb one.

I regret that certain individuals would attack this articulate young lady with such ferocity. If this sort of behavior is representative of liberals, then it just points to the bankruptcy of the liberal movement. In a democracy we are supposed to have a right to free speech without fear of retribution. We also have the right to disagree, but it should be done with respect. Vulgarity is completely unacceptable.

yeah this is why i don’t allow comments on my politics blog. i know that i would get so many hateful messages like you did. oh yeah, isn’t it funny how the left accuses US of “hate?” they are the hateful ones. if you want to see bigotry, look at them.

lol at the first comment you posted… some woman-hating man who sees women as sex objects! and he says YOU’RE stupid?! too funny!!

Haha well seeing how she just posted a bunch of bullshit and spewing ignorant thoughts out of her mouth, she is the first one to start the bigotry. And you are listening to her and believing every word she says becuase you both have the same low IQ. You have no idea how brainwashed you are. You think you are a free thinker Jasmine but et me tell you something, you are not. You have the same mind as a cow. If you are just as smart as the people in North Korea. And you dont allow comments like this on your website becuase if it was all up to you, you would be a dictator, and thats why you play that role in your family. You are scared of confrontation. Thats why you will never amount to anything in this world, just keep living your simple life.

I meant to say “You are just as smart as the people in North Korea.” Sorry I made a mistake, but at least I know when I did and I do something about it, unlike you. Who has never done anything with their life.

I just noticed in your retort to this that your message has actually no logic in it at all, despite what your name might infer. Your response was a lot of hate and nonsense directed at someone and no facts whatsoever. There was a lot of assumption and name calling, but nothing of substance. Sifting through your comments, it’s easy to see that you have nothing to stand on so you just like to spew out anger and hatred. She gave her opinion, which she has a right to, and just because you don’t agree with her doesn’t mean she has a low IQ. She actually has facts and logic in her response, and doesn’t come off as arrogant in any way to me.

Illogical – Spewing insults is no logic, it’s just a sophomoric reaction. Try telling us why we are wrong. Give us facts – or even opinion. Insults are counterproductive and only serve to show how shallow your argument (and possibly intellect) is.

Logic is Calling you are sad pathetic hate-filled ignorant person. You do yourself and your cause a great disservice by spewing your vitriol. You are the bigot and you don’t even realize it. You are filled with hate because she has spoken a truth you want to reject and perhaps even feel you have a right to reject. The fact is presenting facts (i.e. marriage is the union of one man and one woman) is not bigotry. The fact that homosexual acts are unnatural (note not “common” or even found in nature, but contrary to the clear design found in our nature) is not bigoted. It is presenting objective truth and you rail against it because you want your subjectively defined moral relativism to be considered superior to objective truth. SORRY it just isn’t so.

Are you a plant? Your comments here are so incredibly shallow and your rant is so incredibly vile, that you don’t seem like a real person…rather somone masquerading as a liberal thinker, so as to give fodder to the right wing.

The fact is people, this phenominon of being vile and rude, simply isn’t a liberal or a conservative phenominon. I have seen a supposed Tea Party Activist state that he would happily shoot someone who disagreed with him.

I’m not sure if these sorts of comments come from real people or from people trying to escalate the rage and score cheap political points.

If we want to have a national dialogue about anything important, it is important for everyone who thinks to stop and call out the people on their own side who are acting like idiots. I for example, will call out all of the schmucks who were running around (and still do to some extent) calling Republicans Nazis or trying to compare them to Hitler. This is a stupid thing to do! The Nazis murdered 16 million people in a cold and calculating manner. I can’t think of any nationally prominent politician from my lifetime, who qualifies for membership in that club.

So I’ll go ahead and say that those of us who actually want to see a reasonable dialogue, need to step up and point out all the idiots, who are on “our side.” Honestly, I’m still waiting for the conservative to say the same thing about the idiots calling Obama a Nazi!

Logic is Calling…if you are a real person, who holds the opinnions you claim to champion in this venue, please just stop talking in public, you are doing a lot of damage to the left and your comments reflect neither intelligence or logic.

DEAR “LOGIC IS CALLING” (NICE FAKE NAME),
Clean up your obscene mouth. Every time you and the rest of the liberals spew obscene language towards Madeleine the Teenage Political Maverick, she and I automatically win.

–Victor Golf Charles

PS: Don’t bother attempting to comment on my WordPress-powered blog — hate-filled comments directed towards me are automatically rejected by my automated system, and hate mail is kept in a Saved Mail folder in my Hotmail inbox for use in a subpoena that allows me to identify each and every purportedly “anonymous” poster such as you. Read the new federal statute on THAT, and be very afraid.

PPS: Use your real name next time, just like Madeleine McAulay does, instead of hiding timidly behind a fake avatar. Real people win culture wars in the public square when they use their real names; those who use anonymous names lose.

FINAL THOUGHT: Whilst you’re dying, Madeleine and I will be still alive.

FINAL THOUGHT PS: When you’re dead, Madeleine and I will be still alive.

Wow, words can not even explain to convey how stupid you are for posting that comment. I love jesus so just becuase someone does not agree with you does not make them athiest. YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING MARTYR, SO STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE ONE!

And what of those who have been persecuted by Christians? Are they somehow less important? Even if you say they are in fact lives just as significant to this earth, your opinion that all Christians will be persecuted is shallow and egocentric. You would never say such a thing if you were able to comprehend the hypocrisy of the statement. Then you would see the lives snuffed out by Christians (the crusades) and those who claimed to be Christians (Hitler) in the past, and you would feel that there are good humans and bad humans in EVERY religious affiliation and political persuasion.

Hey. Congratulations on your political efforts. First of all, the comments you posted above were not insulting you(well all of them were not)-some were just people standing up for ending Jim Crow part 2. Being gay is NOT a choice, and legalizing gay marriage won’t lead to polygamy or anything crazy because, well, people aren’t born polygamists. Also, I don’t really care if YOUR God from YOUR Bible is against gay marriage-I’m living in the same country as you, the same state as you, and I don’t share your religious beliefs. Has it ever occurred to you that what makes our country beautiful is not our unanimous faith in Christ, but is our separation of church and state.
So, don’t hate people you have never met before(I’m pretty sure your religion tells you to “love thy neighbor”-I dont remember an “unless they are gay” clause….
Also, just because we are one nation under god, we are not one nation under YOUR god and YOUR FOLLOWERS’ god. We are under the god that represents all people-Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus… You are on the wrong side of history, and you are just continuing the largest form of institutionalized oppression known to our planet today. If you don’t want to be committing a sin by being gay, YOU DON’T. Don’t tell others what to do.
Thanks, and please make educated decisions that accept people in the future. You have a lot of power-use it wisely.

They weren’t insulting? Are you serious? Not only were they insulting but they were unnecessarily offensive, no matter how righteous you think they are. Let’s put in real terms. If you were on the receiving end of identical comments coming from opponents of the bill you wouldn’t be accepting them as rational arguments. You’re defending hate speech simply because you agree with them. If you can’t see the difference then not only is your issue questionable but so is your common sense and judgment. You ought to be ashamed of yourself but I’m positive that you aren’t. That’s a flaw in your character. Fix yourself and your attitude rather than joining in on the harrassment.

Just a few quick notes, because I love when people throw out cliche lines without really knowing what they mean…

Homosexuality has never been shown to be any kind of genetic connection – ever. So yes, whether emotional or logical, it IS a choice that is made.

Marriage isn’t a “right”… the oldest (and only) historical references citing its origin are from God’s Word and scientifically proven to be authentic in the finding of the dead sea scrolls. Marriage comes from God as a covenant for a man and a woman. So if God doesn’t recognize your marriage, you can’t make Him, no matter how often you try to say it’s your (or their) right.

“Separation of Church and State” – I do not think it means what you think it means. The phrase gets thrown around a lot, but did you know the actual meaning of it as used by Thomas Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptist Association (January 1, 1802) was to declare that the Government shall not interfere with religion. It’s helpful to know this when using the phrase, so you don’t use it incorrectly.

“love thy neighbor” – also a phrase people like to use against Christians as a way to say “you should let them do whatever they want”, but that’s not what it’s for either. Yes, we are called to love even our enemies, but we are also called to teach, discipline and in some cases excommunicate. We can love a person who is gay, but that does not mean we should support their sin.

Did you know that Jews, Christians and Muslims all share the belief that homosexuality is a sin. Hindus do not, however they also worship gods as opposed to a single God.

And my bottom line when talking with anyone about Gay Marriage is that in order to come to a common agreement on what should happen, everyone needs to fully understand what marriage is and where it comes from in order to determine whether it’s a ‘right’ for everyone, or if it actually belongs to a set of religions with their beliefs forming it in which (thanks to Separation of Church and State) government can’t overturn.

I like your suggestion to make educated decisions. It gives me hope that you will do so yourself.

Thank you Louis for your comment. What you have put into words is exactly how a lot of people feel. You also took the time to respond in an educated and kind way without taking the easy way out. Which is just what “Hey Loser” did. Instead of taking the time to become educated about facts, he just threw out the first four letter words that came to mind.

Homosexuality may or may not have a direct genetic cause. That doesn’t imply choice. Genetics isn’t the sole factor in determining behavior and personality. However, there are dozens of known and observed animal species that occasionally have individuals that engage in homosexual behavior. Did they make a conscious choice to do that? Even if it were a choice, and I don’t think it is, how is that a justification for bullying or denying them the right to love and commit?

Marriage IS a right. It was established in the interpretation of the 14th Amendment in Loving v. Virginia, with the Chief Justice writing, “The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.”

And it existed long before Christianity. Get over yourself. God doesn’t come down in every ceremony to approve a marriage. It is recognized by the people and the state. The majority mythology of a country shouldn’t decide for every other belief holding person regarding their moral position over a victimless issue. Why should a marriage be a crime? Because you disagree with the people’s lifestyles? Why do you care? Seems like you are hell-bent on removing that “pursuit of happiness” idea the Founders had.

The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by John Adams and unanimously ratified by the Senate, states that “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…” Treaties are law in the United States.

Can you come up with an objective reason for opposing same-sex marriage? A reason that is accessible by people of all religious beliefs, including those with no religious beliefs? Because the United States is a culturally diverse country and you seem to think that you get to decide for everyone else. That’s not why the country was made. The country was made to be a Republic and not a Democracy so that the majority could not destroy the rights of the minority. You seem to disagree with this sentiment. You are a BIG government neo-conservative.

If we use the sacred and revered Theory of Evolution considered Gospel by the anti-God homosexuals, its teaching concerning Survival of the Fittest makes an objective reason for opposing homosexual marriage.
The homosexual is unable to produce offspring to strengthen the species and therefore society has a duty to forbid them from being granted a status of “married”. According to the gospel of Darwin, only the purest and strongest members of the species can be permitted to survive.

This only demonstrates that you have a strong lack of understanding of the law, fact, and theory of evolution. It simply states that populations of animals change (do you deny that mutations happen?), and sometimes those changes make an animal more or less likely to survive. Logic dictates that if an animal is more likely to survive, then it will probably survive more than the others, and breed to spread its trait. If the change causes it to lose a leg or causes a disadvantage in any way, it will probably die, and probably before it gets the chance to breed. Now imagine these changes happen over billions of years and millions and millions of generations of animals. It’s not hard to imagine that this is a realistic occurrence. If you have ever owned a dog, especially a pure breed dog, then you are in no position to disagree with evolution.

However, regardless of what has been observed by evolution and what the theory states, that doesn’t mean that homosexuals should be legally prohibited from marrying by the government. Them getting married will have no effect on the survival of them. If anything, it will prevent them from breeding, because they will be compelled to be committed and ignore a survival strategy if that situation ever arises (it won’t).

Actually, you refer to adaptation, not evolution. Evolution is laughable. In fact, evolution requires more faith than Christianity, because there is utterly no proof of evolution…not one single example in the fossil record of one species evolving into another; NOT ONE. But if you insist on believing the myth of evolution, you have to understand that homosexuality is invalid, and not in accord with the concept of survival of the fittest. And you, Devon, are obviously not intelligent enough to understand the proper use of the sex organs, in spite of the example of your parents and the rest of the animal kingdom. Homosexuality is a
choice, and you are a sexual pervert, desperately in need of God’s grace.

Hey! I can be just like Ms. McAulay and say, look! A true example of conservative maturity! All conservatives must be like you! I am apparently a sexual pervert for not being homosexual (as I’m not, and I actually have a wife and a daughter; I’m simply not someone who thinks that I have the right to take away their rights), but simply defending them.

Your understanding of science is as ancient as the book you worship, which is embarrassing for our society. Adaptation IS evolution, and evolution is adaptation. Evolution simply means, “a change in allele frequencies over time.” And look! We have the change, we have the alleles, and we have the time. And evolution isn’t changing from one species to another, like changing from a dog to a crocodile. Nobody has ever said that, ever. But it is a fact that if enough changes accumulate in an isolated population, then eventually that population would not be able to breed with another of its species that hasn’t shared the same environment, and there a line is drawn at a separation of species. THIS HAS BEEN OBSERVED IN LABORATORY EXPERIMENTS AND IN NATURE. THIS IS NOT JUST A HYPOTHESIS. Evolution is a fact and will continue to be true, past the point that your ancient mythology dies off like the preceding mythologies like ancient Greek and Roman and Norse, and the next mythology rises up, and your great-great-great-great—— grand children start worshipping whatever god comes about then. And they will have changed ever so slightly, assuming they haven’t been killed.

The contribution of homosexuals to species survival is irrelevant. The survival is not affected by homosexuals, and we don’t need to execute them to ensure survival because they don’t stop it. People who are infertile are not forbidden from marrying. People who have to wear eye glasses aren’t prevented from having sex in order to preserve our species’ eyesight.

Why would homosexuality be a choice? Are you suggesting that it is a highly desirable thing that every person has to choose NOT to do? Do you have to resist the temptation of having gay sex? Because I can see no benefit to choosing homosexuality. Bullying, discrimination, even execution in some countries (wouldn’t YOU love that here?). Are you suggesting that it is a strong temptation for everyone, and everyone must choose not to do it in order to be faithful to God’s wishes? If that’s the case, it looks like YOU may be a homosexual. I personally am uninterested in it, and I did not make a choice in my heterosexuality. Do you think the 1,500 other species that have some homosexual members made the choice to disobey your god?

Luis commented: “Homosexuality has never been shown to be any kind of genetic connection – ever. So yes, whether emotional or logical, it IS a choice that is made.”

Uh, obviously you just haven’t done the research, or you have been gravely misinformed. Get a hold of some biology and genetics text books and look up “homosexual” in the index… Homosexual behavior and courtship has been observed in many species. Studies on the genetic components of homosexuality in humans have been done as well. You can read all about these things on the internet or in a college library.

The decision is also discriminatory, and could theoretically be overturned by the Supreme Court considering that they will, in the coming years, make a ruling on Prop 8, and the 14th amendment will be a likely reason if it is overturned.

But the point is, that the majority took the rights away from the minority. Just because they voted it doesn’t mean it is the right thing. This is why we are a Republic and not a democracy. However, that is for the federal government. States like NC have shown that this is not the case, that they can hold a vote of the people to amend the state constitution to take away rights of other people.

You are giving in to a dangerous line of thinking if you think that a vote shouldn’t be questioned because a majority supports it. Throughout history we have seen majorities supporting the wrong idea, across the globe.

I could care less about your argument that, because you live in the United States, you can do whatever you want, and redefine words to mean what is convenient to you.

Let me first say that my opposition to gay marriage is not about keeping people that supposedly love each other apart. That is going to happen whether I favor it or not.

But you are failing to understand that, to the Christian, you are mounting a full frontal assault on the very character of God Himself, and we will not shut up and let you get away with that. In case you are unfamiliar with the Bible, I will show you what I am talking about.

God created man in His image, but man needed a helper, something different from him, to complete him. God was not alone, but man was alone. So God made marriage, and instructed the man to be responsible and leave his father and mother and then cleave to his wife. The miracle is that 2 DIFFERENT THINGS CAME TOGETHER AND BECAME 1 is the key.

2 men cannot come together and become one because they are one already. They are the same. God is Father, Son and Spirit. They are different but they are one. So marriage is a picture of God.

Sorry, but you can no more marry one man to another, or one woman to another, than you can marry a man to his pet dog. God created, or instituted marriage, and only He can redefine it. Doing so by man is to spit in God’s face and tell him you will not abide by His rules.

To add to what I just wrote, same sex marriage is comparable to having a glass of water, and then adding some more water to it. After this process, you still have a glass of water. You can’t end up with something different by adding water. Each are the same. In the case of same sex marriage, 1 + 1 = 2 of the same thing

But in the case of biblical marriage, 1 + 1 = 1.

This is huge because marriage is a sermon about the nature and character of God.

Sorry, but there is only one GOD, and that is the one true living Triune God. I suggest you actually study what other such as Hindus and Muslums actually worship; it ain’t my God, I assure you. And worship by itself buys you nothing. It is understanding and accepting the saving grace of Christ and the sacrifice he made for your sins.
This country is full of folks who claim to worship different gods, but they are pagons with no hope at all in the afterlife. Not my problem, I assure you, but if you are not a TRUE believer, you most certainly are on your way to hell without a prayer, literally, unless you change.

“born gay” — no scientific proof of it, and if it were possible….would that mean that “born pedophile” or “born thief” should be accepted and encouraged behaviors too?

old news, history refresher….separation of church and state doesn’t exist (Jefferson’s letter to the Baptist church was to explain how the government could never INTERFERE with their religious freedoms)….you can’t separate them and spreading Christianity was the main reason Columbus came here…

disagreeing with a gay lifestyle (for religious or other reasons) doesn’t mean “hating” or oppressing — it just means disagreeing….and each of us has a right to disagree (re-defining terms won’t make anyone agree with you).

finally…..when Christians try to tell you that living out a gay lifestyle is a sin (equal to the sins the rest of us commit by the way)….we are “loving our neighbor” because we think it’s more loving to tell you the TRUTH, than lie and let you believe a lie….because whether you believe as a Christian does or not….heaven and hell are real….and it’s the “loving” thing to do to help you not end up in the “smoking section”…..

Being born gay is true. It should be accepted because it is harmless, victim less, and consenting behavior. Thieves take from others without their consent, because children can not give consent. They are harmful to individuals and society. Pedophiles (who act on their impulses) harm children without their consent. They are harmful to individuals and society. Gay people have no victim. Homosexuality is not, and should not be, a crime.

Columbus did not start the 13 original colonies. Columbus simply discovered the land (at least discovered it for Europe). The reason the United States was formed from the 13 colonies was to break off from the tyranny of the King and the Church of England. There is not a single mention of Christ or God or Jesus in the Constitution. We are not a Christian nation, we are a nation of majority Christians. There is no official state religion like much of Europe. If the Founding Fathers wanted us to be a Christian nation, would they not make Christianity the official religion? They had the power to. There are over 75 million non-Christians in the United States. Majority doesn’t, and shouldn’t, get to rule.

It becomes discrimination when that simple disagreement of lifestyle leads to forbidding that lifestyle. I’m not personally interested in anal sex or BDSM, but I’d be ridiculous if I tried to force other people to comply with my lack of interest.

Can you show me where Jesus himself said that homosexuality is a sin? Because the only passage I know of that is apparently from your god is also surrounded with forbidding shellfish and the wearing of multiple fabrics and stoning a disobedient child to death. You don’t believe in these things, right? Jesus died for our sins, so when we do those, we are forgiven, right? Why can’t a gay lifestyle be one of those that is forgiven? I don’t see you passing a law requiring execution for a child who talks back. I don’t see you trying to pass a law to forbid eating pork, shellfish, or wearing multiple threads in a fabric. But for some reason, you are sticking on this gay idea. Did you know that the Hebrew word that was translated to say “abomination” was actually mistranslated and should have read “unclean”? In the same way that eating pork is unclean.

Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

This isn’t really convincing me. So he’s saying that he is the same as God. But people say all the time, that certain things are OK because “that’s in the Old Testament, we don’t follow that anymore”. If we followed the Old Testament, we would all be in jail.

What is the point of a New Testament if you are saying that the ideas of Jesus aren’t new and aren’t any better than the ideas of the Old Testament God.

I have also been on the receiving end of those who think that I do not deserve a polite response when I say the unpopular thing. In fact, I expect to be ridiculed for this comment, as I once again say the unpopular thing.

At the end of your video, you said “I want to live my life according to God’s holy scriptures, and I want America to also.” I also am a God fearing believer, which is why what I have to say next seems so counter intuitive. America was designed to prevent States (and the Federal government) from pushing any religion. In fact, the trial against William Penn (charged with preaching his Quaker religion) in London is one of the examples that lead to this belief. To put it simply, matters concerning religion are none of the governments business.

To be sure, I would be saying the same thing whether the amendment was for or against gay marriage. If it was a state that was 60% pro-gay, it would not be right to make a constitutional amendment allowing gay marriage. In the same way, the fact that 60% of NC believes marriage should be protected by law does not make it right. The government should have no say in the working of religion, and make no mistake: marriage is a religious institution.

The problem with the quote I mentioned before is that we should not force Americans to live by the holy scriptures. As Hamilton so aptly put in federalist 1, “For in politics, as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword.” And make no mistake: the government is nothing but force. Trying to make this a moral nation by legislating morality will not have the effect you want.

If we do not protect the minority from the government when we are the majority; who will protect us when, say, the majority wants Sharia law?

I agree with you whole heartedly, but the unfortunate truth is that our government has already inserted itself into this issue. This is, I believe, why there’s so much turmoil surrounding the problem. Everyone knows that sodomites can’t marry. They can call themselves married, but we all know that’s not possible, no more so then it’s possible to change the meaning of the words “no”, or “yes”. Words mean something! At issue is the fact that the sodomite community is/has looked to the government to stand up for them. They’ve blurred the issue to the point where the claim made now is one of “fairness and equal rights”. Isn’t it sneaky the way they slipped that “equal rights” thing in there? This issue is no more about equal rights then it is that of man wishing to call himself a woman! Look, in the court of public opinion, which is where this thing should be decided anyway, the majority have and will always look on these queer individuals more as a distraction then anything else. Some people will see them as a group of sickos and some may just throw their hands up in the air and say “oh well, it’s none of my business anyway”, but our governments really have no business trying seize control over this amorality run amok. Humanity has always had queers to deal with, and always will. It’s simply a pathetic reality to our short life on this earth!

People still say dude? So grown up and mature! Still shaking my head at you Hey Loser…Im finding the Aethiest to be a cult of its own anymore. Most say they are Athiests to cover up being satan worshippers.

Yes, I do not mean to accuse her of that, but merely to point out the fact that the government is force. If there is a law that says gays cannot marry, and then two people (of the same gender) get married in a church that believes in homosexuality, than what will the government act? The only things it can do are either ignore the law, or use force to invalidate the “marriage”. Thus, force is used.

Now I will say that i voted against Amendment One. I did this not because im for gay marriage, but on the EXTREMELY important principle that a constitution, by definition, is a document meant to protect the rights of individuals from the government and even from themselves. Amendment One did not protect the rights of NC Citizens, it took them away. A law would have been perfectly sufficient. The question was why it was necessary in the first place? Gay marriage was already not recognized by the state, so why go through all this trouble and put North Carolina in a bad light? Also do not let one group of liberal internet trolls define them as a whole. They believe strongly in their beliefs just as you do, and thats not to mention that if you go on any liberal video i guarantee that there will be vulgar comments from conservatives as well. Just keep that in mind before you label these as “Hateful comments by the left”
Im glad that you are involved in our country and do not go through life as an ignorant teenager, but i beg of you, do me this one thing. Be open-minded to change, id rather someone be ignorant than blindly following a doctrine, because when you go through life without opening your mind to new things, you become a fanatic, and that is dangerous territory.

Clayton, I have struggled with this issue, but I figured this would be a great time to remind everyone of America’s roots, and when I did I was ridiculed and met with disgusting and vulgar comments. Disagreement is fine an productive but when people resort to name calling I will not be open minded to their opinions.

“Also, don’t forget: the Left is just the loud and annoying minority.”

^Just saying… And yes these are Americas roots, but another main one is Separation of Church and State. Even with all this said we shouldnt be attacking gay people for ruining the sanctity of marriage when straight couples have destroyed it all on their own.

That was sarcasm just so you know… And also remember that Separation of Church and State is not in the Constitution, people forget that. I can support the amendment without being ignorant. I did my research.

To be sure, those people who wrote those disgraceful and disgusting comments are horrible excuses for human beings. Taking a stand for what you believe is admirable, and I certainly do not look down on you for it.

Even if I disagree with you in some things, I respect you for pursuing what you believe in a rational way. In fact, my attempts to discuss our differences stem from my respect for you. In other words, I would never deign to debate with those brutes who attacked you so viciously and irrationally; to respond to them is to validate their actions.

You are correct that the states (and even the federal government) have the right to follow the process outlined in their respective constitutions to put amendments like this into place. I am not trying to say that you are ignorant in supporting this amendment, I am attempting to discuss the proper role of government. In other words, when should the government use the powers that it have?

We could amend the constitution to replace the President with a King, but we should not. To do so would take our government away from the principles of freedom and limited power, and send us further down the road to tyranny.

We could amend the constitution to disallow gun ownership (repealing the 2nd amendment), but we should not. To do so would be an attack on our freedom to defend ourselves.

We could amend the state constitution to allow give the state the power to decide what you eat, but we should not. To do so would infringe on the freedom to do what you wish with your life, to make mistakes and learn from them.

We could amend the Constitution to define marriage, but we should not. To do so takes the institution of marriage away from the church where it belongs, and gives it to the government who should have no say on what marriage is or isn’t. To do so sets a precedent that says morality can (and should) be determined by the government, which is dangerous because the government can not be trusted to make the right decisions of morality – thus it should not have the power.

I would like to suggest that the role of government is limited and simple: the government exists to protect us from those who would force their will upon us. Thus, the federal government should protect us from foreign tyranny and rebellion, while state and local governments protect us from criminal tyranny, such as murder and theft. No part of the government should be able to protect us from making what they consider poor personal decisions. To give the government this power is to give the government all power; no longer would it protect us from tyranny, but it would become the embodiment of tyranny.

How does the amendment in question fit into this model? Have we not just given the government the sanction to tell us what is right or wrong? If not the government, have we not just said that the majority should dictate the actions of the whole?

What’s more, what did this “victory” actually gain? Have homosexuals repented because of it, or have the just become outraged at the stab at their lifestyle? Will they be more likely to seek God, or will they be repulsed by Christians that are willing to use law to push their morals?

We can expect backlash in the form of amendments in more “leftist” states. They will seek to use the law to validate their lifestyle, in direct response to NC’s use of law to invalidate their lifestyle.

In the name of liberty, let us oblige the government to stay out of this debate. It is none of the government’s business.

I really don’t think re-publishing the filth, especially that graphic, is any more appropriate than it was the first time. I am very surprised any conservative young lady would do anything but delete it. It is a crime it was sent to you but please do not share it with other young conservatives, you are keeping it going.
The point you are trying to make is not worth the means; it was wrong to send it to you to make a point, and in my opinion, just as wrong for you to also use it to make a counter point…
Please remove at least the most vulgar.

Thanks for the response.
It’s really not a matter of “like it” but a matter of what is appropriate. That’s not a “Breitbart” tactic as you are not Breitbart. You are a young girl posting vulgar filth blaming it on someone else. With your talent, you should find something else to hang your hat on. There is enough smut on the internet already.
Again, you are as guilty for publishing this again as the ill-bred fool that did the first time. Please, consult an honest, older person you trust and let them explain this to you.
I’m sorry but will no longer read or recommend your writing due to this vulgar error in judgment.

So long.

(you don’t need to publish this, not trying to scold or embarrass you, just really disappointed)

Your “disappointed” because I reposted negative comments about me? Really? I received disgusting comments & you expect me to not share them? This hate is ridiculous & it needs to be seen. A teenage girl shouldn’t be afraid to say what she believes because of the comments she might get. The president called a girl because she was called a slut. There is a War on Conservative Women and it needs to be shown.

I absolutely agree with you, Madeleine. There IS a war on conservative women and if liberal women were honest, there is a war against them too. We are back to the “women as sex objects” again when in the 70′s we women (right and left) fought so HARD to be seen as thinking individuals and to be paid the same as a man when the performing the same job. We were minimized then and here we are once again in the same boat.
I applaud you for your courage in speaking up and I agree you should let your readers see a little of what you received. Talk about bigotry! Wow, I can hardly believe how ugly it is. You simply cannot have an opinion that is opposite theirs. No discussion just name-calling. I am old enough to be your grandma and I am praying for our nation as I know you do.

I am a proud lesbian from Minnesota. I just want to be upfront about that from jump. While I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, I think it’s disgusting that people think it’s perfectly fine to spew hate and vulgarity at you for expressing yours, miss mccauley. While I applaud your your talent and eloquence, I disagree wholeheartedly for obvious reasons.

Who I choose to love has absolutely nothing to do with you. I do not come into hetero households and participate in their lives, so why shouldanyone I let heteros stick their noses in mine? What I do in my personal life does not affect you in any way, shape, or form. There is not one valid reason for anyone to be involved in this aspect of anyone’s life. Just because you don’t agree with how I live my life doesn’t give you any right to try and take that right away from me.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…we are all equally entitled to those basic human rights. Life- that means MY life and I have the right to live how I choose. Liberty-that means that I have the freedom to love whomever I wish, and I love people of the same sex. Pursuit of happiness-that means I can do what makes ME happy. I don’t live my life to make you or snyone else happy. I live my life my way, in order to make myself happy. Everyone else should do the same and spend less time worrying about us gays ruining the sanctity of marriage. You straight people did a great job of that all on your own.

As for vulgarity…please try to think of the vulgarities we, as gay HUMAN BEINGS, have had to endure. What you have been subjected to is miniscule in comparison to what we have gone through for decades simply because of who we love.

I have to disagree with you here. Unless there are very young children reading this, such comments are probably not new to anyone reading this. As adults, we must be prepared to confront evil in whatever form it takes. Keep in mind, the bible is quite explicit.

She is correct, comments like this show what we are up against. Rather than turn away in disgust, we should rise up in righteous indignation. We should be uplifting and supporting her, not tearing her down for showing it.

If she is anything like I am, she posted this (in part) as a cry for help. I still feel hurt anytime someone directs such anger and vulgarity at me.

Madeleine, you did not deserve such treatment. I hope you know that what they said is untrue: you are a wonderful person and you deserve better than this. Keep in mind, there are more who are for you than those few who are against you. Keep up the good work!

Yes, it is a Breitbart tactic. Don’t attempt to explain the process of someone you quite clearly didn’t know or studied — or condescend to a young girl who knows more than you on this subject.

Showing progressives for who they and what they do to people are is classic Breitbart. Instead of criticizing her, you ought to thank Madeline for having the brass to do the things you lack the fortitude to attempt.

So, it’s appropriate forpeople to say such nasty things to her a minor child, but it’s somehow inappropriate for her to make those things public and show people the hate, on her own blog? What, you think there were no young kids watcing the youtube video and/or reading those comments? You obviously know nothing about Andrew Breitbart or you would not have made such an ignorant statement; showing the world what liberlism really is is completely Breitbart. So she’s posting “vulgar filth and blaming it on someone else?” Interesting logic you got going there. You think she enjoyed having those comments flung her way NECESSITATING the need to republish? So, she should just roll over re: her principles because you think it’s distasteful? How do you think her Father felt when he read those youtube comments? (oh yes, I’m sure he’s well aware of all of this) Let me share for a sec: I AM an older, honest person, who has two children, and I would pretty fricking PROUD of my kids if they were so steadfast as to stand firm in their beliefs and show the world how hateful and vile the “tolerant” and “peaceful” left really is. Now please, go back to sticking your head in the sand. You help NO ONE, you have NO convictions, and you are to be pitied.

hey “Not So Sure..”
And you are who to deem her publishing these threats and attacks as “inappropriate”?
Clearly she is not hanging her hat on these comments and you as a honest, older person should be able to realize this if you had viewed the entire site. It may be you, with your attitude towar her, making the error in judgement…..think about it.

I understand why she posted the many nasty comments. It showed to me that many that said insults, called her names were clearly not conservative, but rather was showing how the other side acts behavior wise when they have no good debate to argue back. It shows what side lacks respect, and how they conduct themseves. Great Idea! Expose them! People should be made aware of the hate and threats and wishes of harm and violence made on the right side, this is common. Yes vulgar, but shes showing what they are like when they dont agree with someone with different views.

I just saw your little snippit on Fox News tonight, May 20th. Then I went to your website and read some of your ideas. You think you are so smart and intelligent dont you? You think after your 15 minutes of fame clarifies and confirms your thoughts and feelings that you are some kind of political prodigy… Well you arent. You are actually overwhelmingly, amazingly stupid. And those 15 minutes of fame will be the only minutes of recognition you will ever recieve (other than your uneducated closed parents of course). Oh and please tell them I said they did a good job raising up a child that is just as ignorant, uneducated, closed-minded, and pathetic as they are. The only way you will ever find a boyfriend is if he has the same IQ as you and can be easily brainwashed as yourself.

So very logical. What an impressive intellect, throwing horrid vulgar insults at a sixteen year old. I am dazzled by the courage and brilliant display of your “logic”. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The fact that your life is so sad you feel the need to troll a teenager’s blog and hurl insults at them for disagreeing with your point of view isn’t going to make anyone change their mind about this topic. You can name call all you want, but it is you who is showing your ignorance with your silly, rude trolling.

I’ve read through most of these comments and as far as I can tell you are pointlessly replying to almost every positive comment that Madeline is receiving and you are cussing, and insulting the people who made the comment. I was sitting here wondering. “Why would someone waste their time trolling a minor and insulting her, and her supporters on HER OWN BLOG?” and then it came to me! You have no life other than sitting at your computer all day and trolling her, you’re probably on welfare, you love Obama, and you want attention!! I bet you enjoy all the replies you get on your comments, because it’s another opportunity for you to post even more of your “logical” comments that you seem to be so good writing.
Ahhh, I feel sorry for you, I really do. If you really wanted to defend your political views and try and make a point, you would at least approach it in a civil matter, maybe then you might get more positive comments. But obviously you just want to bash other peoples political views using your ignorant little comments to do so. First of all, my suggestion would be: GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR LIFE.

I was kinda thinking you was the one brainwashed Logic Is Calling….your insults are not very logic and your attitude in poor taste. im sure she will lead and have a more succesful life than you ever will, she has class unlike you. Sounds like your slightly jealous and envious of her also.

Lemme tell ya something here honey, the way you act, dress and what you say, will keep you a virgin at least till your 40. The only way you will get some di#k is if your dumba$$ Daddy decides to make you a late night visit or you strap a dild0 to your trampoline.

You do know that everytime you leave a message, your IP address is stamped on the blog, right? And that using that unique identifier, it is possible to find out who you are, where you live, where you work…. all kinds of interesting things. Particularly when you post sexually provocative comments/threats that people might misconstrue. You may want to consider that, oh so superior lib. Have a nice day.

Wow! People are such filthy animals! Talking like that to a 16 year old, makes me wonder how demented you are and that you should be watched and reported for sexual conduct. Im almost sure its female, talking this way. Pay her no mind, she lacks self esteem and class. Who knows what her parents did to her to make her act that way.

I am glad to say you are a friend. I know the comments might be hard to deal with but remember these are just a few people who act like the majority with their disturbing language. Stand strong, stand tall, and stand for something!

Ah, the classy Obama-youth displaying their foul mouths and minds again. Kind of disturbing to think these are the punks who put BO in office. Oh well, only about a half-year to go and the nightmare is over.

Good golly. It’s hard to believe the hateful, vulgar things people will say – and they call themselves the open-minded ones, the unbrainwashed, the enlightened! The champions of free speech! And some of them will even dare to call themselves Christians!

Madeleine, you’re awesome. You keep being bold and speaking truth – because it is truth, and the truth hurts those whose consciences are already smarting. That’s the underlying problem. Jesus’ ministry only lasted three years for a reason: The world could take only so much Divine truth and goodness before they had to put an end to it.

Ordinarily I’m not a fan of posting vulgarity; in this case, the world desperately needs to see what the Left is really all about. They, who claim they love peace above all things, battle fiercely against anyone whose mindset is contrary to their own. They, who champion gay rights, will trounce the rights of Christians. They, who profess to love everyone, hate those who dare to reveal their agenda for what it is.

They’ll even stoop so low as to talk in this disgusting fashion to a fine teenager. It blows the mind.

Again, keep up the good work. Leaders can expect to duck a few rotten eggs, but doing the right thing – and speaking truth – is well worth it.

ITS SO AMAZINGLY AWESOME HOW IRONIC THIS IS. YOU GUYS ARE NEO-CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS FREAKS WHO BELIEVE THAT GAYS ARE NOT PEOPLE AND THAT THEY DONT DESERVE RIGHTS. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT DO NOT PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. YOU GUYS SAY DONT JUDGE BUT YET YOU JUDGE PEOPLE WHO DONT AGREE WITH YOU. YOU DO REALIZE THAT IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE SPOKEN UP FOR WOMEN AND FOR EQUALITY. YOU ARE THE TYPE OF WOMEN THAT WOULD PREFER TO BE THE STAY-AT-HOME MOMS WHO DO NOTHING BUT TAKE CARE OF THEIR HUSBND. IF IT WASNT FO THE BRAVE WOMEN BEFOR YOU, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS MEN HAVE. BUT SINCE YOU HAVE THAT FREEDOM AND YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS AND HOW GOOD IT IS, YOU WILL DENY IT TO ANYONE YOU DONT AGREE WITH. YOU ARE A HYPOCRITICAL CHRISTIAN…

After reading some of these comments from liberals. They are ignorant to their own comments. How about them being tolerant to us conservatives they are not even tolerant. How can someone accuse of us of being ‘hateful’ after reading those comments. Thank you Madeline for telling the truth, remember the world hate us cause we’ve got Jesus in us and the world hated Jesus, so we’ll be hated to. Be strong to your values and i hope there are more brave young conservatives out there are a contribution to our society to bring our country back to biblical judeo-christian constitutional values. Thank you for your braveness.

Madeline, if you read this, I want you to know that I am proud of you taking the unpopular stance. Christ really reflects in your willingness to defend marriage. I appreciate your courage! You are very smart and very well-spoken, I’m so impressed! Something that people can’t say is that you haven’t thought out your own opinion. Like Paul says in 1 Timothy 4:12 “Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, and in purity.” You have done a fantastic job with this in this post. Thank you for setting such a great example for people of your age!

Absolutely disgusting and typical. You’re not only within your right to publish the comments, you were right to do so.

I don’t think you can hide behind the “especially considering this time it was directed at a minor.” You got yourself into the conversation, and this is what far-left progressives do. You can’t walk into the kitchen without expecting some heat. You’re in or you’re out.

There is always room for healthy, civil debate in our country. What has happened, however, is that politics has become ‘winner take all’: if you disagree with a position, the mud (and much worse)-slinging begins. IT takes a healthy and brave ego to take a stand these days.

That being said, I don’t necessarily agree with your position. But I do appreciate the thoughtful and civil way you present your argument, and I am sorry that many – who somehow feel righteous and justified in their anger – feel the need to knock you down a few pegs. Don’t let them: that, my dear, is wholly in your control.

Name calling is the tactic of those without imagination, the lazy, and the ego-centric.

Stick to your guns, find your way. And in the words of Shakespeare, “To thine own self be true.”

I agree with you…even though I do not agree with her..it is good to see someone take a stand in their own belifs….with that being said..i think people forget one of the most respected verses from the bible…
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

I think everyone has a right to be happy just as everyone has a right to freedom (in america that is).

I will say that there are absolute animals on both sides of the political spectrum. Civility and open dialogue are necessary for any progress to be made in this country. For every moron telling you to ‘suck their c***” because of your views, there’s a Christian pastor saying we should lock gays up in prison. I apologize on behalf of the liberals and members of the lgbt community who were aggressive and vulgar to you, but your views are destructive. I know that people fear what they can’t understand, but time and time again this fear has been used to justify the discrimination against–and in extreme cases–the termination of groups of people. Don’t be part of a broken system, I beg you.

As a lesbian, I can tell you that I had no choice in the matter of my sexuality. However, I can say that I am choosing to educate myself, have a career, surround myself with good people who give back to our country and the world, and one day raise children whom I hope will have similar values. I’m doing the best to live my life, as are many other gays and lesbians in this country. I encourage you to do the same and to refrain from attempting to strip my rights to live my life as I choose away. This is the land of the free, I hope that it continues to evolve and reach its potential as a safe-haven for diversity and a producer of greatness.

I would, JSF (and in fact, I believe I have, at my own blog), but my comments here (2 tries at basically the same comment, about six hours apart) fail to appear… (On the off chance this one makes it, good to see you again, sir… S ‘pin awhile…)

Young blogger makes a YouTube video about same-sex marriage. In the comments section of that YouTube video there are some comments that voice their opposition to the presenter’s opinions but nothing too extreme except for four particularly offensive/vulgar/vile ones. Four comments out of the 120 or so that were posted. Not bad, in my opinion, considering the low standards of YouTube moderation. And, I’ve seen a far worse ratio of vulgar comments in YouTube videos featuring playful puppies. I mean, Madeleine knew this was the internet, right? It’s not exactly always a Tea Party in here. (Oops, sorry if anyone is offended by that).

Anyhow, young Madeleine takes particular offense at these 4 out of 120 comments and decides to write a blog post about it. Fine, no problem, better to expose “the true colors of the Left”. Okay, what? Hold on a second. Let’s pause and think about this. Four comments from the left that hold various vile qualities. This is out of 120 comments. Aha!, you say, “Only some of the comments are in opposition to what’s presented in the video!” Yes, only a few, by the looks of things. By a rough count only about 12 of the comments seem to be in obvious opposition. So, 4 of about 12 comments. A quarter of all comments opposed to the views presented are deemed to be vile or over the line offensive. That does seem pretty bad.

Not so fast. First, as a quick aside, let’s go back and address the fact that at least some of the comments of the 90% who gave neutral or favorable opinions of this video stated them in ways that would be considered highly offensive to many people who favor same-sex marriage legislation/rights, etc. How many? Definitely a few at least. But, no one is making any complaint about possibly vile or vulgar comments from the RIGHT to this video, so we can put it to one side for now. But keep it in mind.

So, let’s see what’s the fuss. Commenter “AcornSucks”. What? ACORN sucks? The now defunct “leftie” community organizing group taken down, at least in part, by Breitbart associate James O’Keefe? This “AcornSucks” favorites Mitt Romney videos and if you read his comments he is actually DEFENDING what is in Madeleine’s video. So, we can safely toss this out of the “vile lefty” pile and into the “vile rightie” pile (which doesn’t really exist, because no one is making any complaints about vile right wing comments to this video, though, of course, they could.) “AcornSucks” definitely does not represent “the true colors of the Left” as Madeleine says. She probably didn’t investigate him properly or is perhaps ignorant of what ACORN was? I don’t know. But, to put his comments in a list “representing the left” would be considered a blatant lie if the claim was made by an adult or a real journalist, but let’s not get carried away with such charges.

Next we have TheAtheist79. Atheism = lefty, correct? Especially since the topic discussed has some religious elements to it (at least as it is presented in the video). A quick Google search reveals that TheAtheist79 denies man-made climate change. That’s a right-wing view, really. Definitely not left-wing. Let’s call him a flip-flopper (sorry Romney fans).

funnykoreantv made a comment that isn’t even “vulgar” by any reasonable internet standard. And, other than opposition to the video itself there is no evidence where he stands ideologically. But, no, not vulgar enough. “Stupidity and ignorance” doesn’t qualify as anything but an insult.

What do we have? 1 vulgar comment from a right-wing supporter of the video’s position. One comment from someone doesn’t have an easily discernible political leaning, but let’s call him a lefty, why not? One non-vulgar comment. And one very vile comment from a possibly crazy
lefty.

2 comments out of 120. On YouTube.

Madeleine says, “Okay, I will leave it at that.” Well, really there weren’t any more “vulgar” comments so I don’t see what she means by this. Seems a bit deceptive, as if there was some giant pool of vulgar comments to pull from. There isn’t. There is only the 4 now reduced to 2.

Yes, what was written in the comments section was despicable but you need to grow some thicker skin. It’s the comments section of a blog! Of course some trolls are going to post mean things. Go on the fox nation website and see all the hateful things said towards the president. The difference though between u and I is I would never sterotype an entire group of people based on it. Are there hateful liberals? Yes. Are there hateful conservatives? Yes. Do yourself a favor and get away from the victimization mentality SOME on the right peddle. You are not an oppressed minority. If you express your political views expect to be attacked, whether you are a lefty or right. Fight your argument on the merits, don’t try to gain sympathy and support because someone was mean to you. I think you have a very bright future ahead of you, but I hope u don’t go down the divisive breibart path.

You should have stopped at admitting how despicable the comments coming from your side are. That was the last valid thing you said. Don’t think that your post is any more valid just because you had just enough self-control to not use vulgar language. The fact of the matter is that you’re here, scolding her, which is a form of intimidation and you know it. You’re giving her “advice” on how to run her blog? Please. Concern trolls are still trolls. The comment about avoiding “victimization mentality” is priceless, btw. What are YOU doing? Do yourself a favor and give intellectual honesty a try. The “Breitbart path” leads to the truth being told rather distorted and suppressed by your allies in the media. It’s effective and that’s why you’re here whining.

If you take offense at this ratio of anonymous internet YouTube commenters, then fine. I suggest you don’t go on YouTube anymore. It’s a rough ole internet. “The comments became disgusting, vulgar, and completely stupid.” While “stupid” is still up for debate, the “turn for the worse” described can now seen to be pure fiction.

Two is, however, unmistakably far too few to make this absurd broadstroke, “the true colors of the Left need to be shown”. Madeleine didn’t
show anything other than two vulgar comments. Why aren’t the many comments that were “civil” more indicative of the “left”? Madeleine is making a massive generalization of the worst kind. Condemning a huge group of people on the evidence of one or two examples is terribly fallacious. Is “AcornSucks” representative of all right-wing/conservative leaning people? No.

Again, no one is condoning anything vulgar or vile commented online to a minor. But exaggeration, hyperbole, and fibbing about these types of things doesn’t really do, let alone solve, anything.

“But what about the comments on this blog article?”

I see one vulgar comment from “Sarah Palin’s Vagina”. I also see Breitbart contributor/editor Dana Loesch espousing the “Breitbart way” of handling this situation, arguing (and, typically, needlessly berating) fellow conservatives. Curious. Loesch tweeted “Kudos to teenager @m_mcaulay for her handling of the progs who sexually insulted, attacked her on her blog.” If she’s referring to “Sarah Palin’s Vagina” I see no “handling” of it here and we don’t know if that’s a “prog”. Madeleine, if she follows the “Breitbart way”, should have no problem with publishing, as suggested, the IP address of that person since the Breitbart crew have no problem with posting personal information online of any of the people they oppose and do it all the time. It’s possible that “Sarah Palin’s Vagina” is, in fact,
a conservative plant, now that we know Breitbart people are involved, to keep the “vulgar lefty comments” narrative alive. But, until we know more, we have to assume that it is NOT someone from the left. Why would someone from the left even visit this blog? Publish the IP, we’ll know more.

Now, what is going on, anyway? Why is Dana Loesch around? What’s all this Breitbart talk?

Oh, I see. Madeleine is a frequent contributor to the Breitbart websites. And has been for about a year or more. Hmmm….

What the….?!?!?

This whole blog post has been about “vulgar lefty” commenters, right? As Madeleine puts it, “the true colors of the Left need to be shown”.

Well, now we can conclude easily that this whole thing is a total joke. The Breitbart sites, as everyone who has visited them knows, are packed to the rafters with right-wing conservative comments that are the worst of the worst. The most vile, vulgar, racist, xenophobic, racist, Islamophobic, racist, hate speech you’ll ever see short of white nationalist sites like Stormwatch (though they are a bit better moderated than the Breitbart site). Calling black people “apes”, for instance, is common. This is aside from the obvious senstionalism, lies, hyperbole and all-round nonsense presented there. The articles are, in my opinion, designed to bring this type of hate to their site. For profit. Go take a look, it won’t be long before you find in the articles on Breitbart .com dozens of examples as bad or far worse than what’s been presented here every. single. day. Thousands in total. The comments are very loosely moderated and are very well documented as some of the most vile of any political site on the internet. Cataloguing them all would fill volumes. Truly the most hateful filth you’ll see that isn’t classified as pornography.

And, Madeleine has been contributing articles there for around a year. As a minor.

Presumably, since we know she has some kind of parental supervision, Madeleine just writes the articles and submits them without being allowed to browse such a site filled with vulgarity. But, who knows? It’s up to her parents. If Madeleine hasn’t seen what the comments are like on the
Breitbart sites I’m telling her now. If she has, which is far more likely, then this blog post smacks of feigned outrage. And massive hypocrisy.

The hypocrite’s point (that there were a couple of vulgar comments on YouTube and this blog post) does not disappear. They can be taken on their own merit. But, the hypocrite loses the moral high ground by not holding up her end of the argumentative bargain. “Look at how bad these comments are!”, while comments by her own “side”, on a website that she contributes to, have a set of comments far worse. The hypocrite makes a special case for herself while wanting others to uphold a higher standard. It’s a moral and logical abomination.

But, since I don’t know for certain whether Madeleine actually has seen the vile, vulgar, and racist comments on the Breitbart sites I can’t level the charge of hypocrisy in full. *(But, I do find it far more unlikely that, as a Breitbart blogger, Madeleine didn’t know what ACORN was.)

However, it gets worse. Dismantling this blog post is the least of it. What should be of far greater concern is the Breitbart organization. Madeleine contributed there of her own free will with her parents permission, of course, and I’m sure I could find examples of teenage blog posts on the Huffington Post, for example. But, look at what the Breitbart people are doing? After a year of profiting off of a 15 year old girl’s articles, they are now clearly using her to further their own ends. Even in this very blog post we can see Dana Loesch jumping to Madeleine’s defense by berating a fellow conservative who merely opposed the publication of the offending comments. Loesch lashed out in a way designed to stifle further opposition. It’s a standard play by these propagandists. I see other familiar Breitbart allies commenting here as well who jumped in once this “outrage” was propagated.

As we’ve seen, there is plenty of room for criticism of this blog post before even talking about the same-sex marriage issue itself, yet any criticism on here, YouTube, Twitter, etc. is met by “outraged” howls from Loesch, Malkin, etc. that such criticism is an “attack on a minor” or similiar unassailable nonsense. They know that a teenage girl is a virtual online untouchable and are quite clearly just using Madeleine as a propaganda tool afer despicably grooming her for a year.

With the addition of Loesch, Kruiser, Baldwin, and the rest, this whole thing can be easily seen through as an unethical pile of nonsense. A sham. We’ve seen how it’s mostly made up fake outrage. We’ve seen how Loesch has tried to squash criticism in her thuggish manner.

One can only hope that someone as articulate and bright as Madeleine, and her family, don’t fall for the Breitbart trap. The rest of us can see through these shenanigans easily. Hitching a wagon to the Breibart circus is a mistake that could lead one to become a long-term nasty laughingstock like so many that have gone before.

I know that I may not be the best educated person here and I don’t claim to be, So I hope you will indulge me one question that I want to ask. why would you, a supposedly educated person use hundreds of words to go in circles as you try to impress others with how smart you are as you put the young lady down because you don’t agree with the point she is making. Only cowards and fools beat around the bushes, instead of just saying what they want to say. Or do you get paid so much a word, for what you comment, as you troll ?

Hmm, I see that my comments are “awaiting moderation”. Presumably “Sarah Palin’s Vagina” went through the same moderation. What’s the point then? Highlighting lefty vulgarity? Very odd.

You know that you can delete unwanted comments from your YouTube videos, right? Lots of people do it. It’s very easy. But, no, instead you decided to make a blog post about the 2 out of 120 YouTube comments to paint the left as “vulgar”.

You know nobody forced you to comment here, right? The answer to your question is that bad behavior should be exposed. Bullying and intimidation should definitely be exposed. Of course, as someone who is attempting to bully and intimidate those you disagree with, naturally you’re offended by anyone who exposes your activities.

You know that there are some comments to the YouTube video that many who don’t share the “conservative” side of the same-sex marriage debate as what was espoused would find offensive and even vulgar, right?

But, we’re not talking about them because no one on that side is complaining about a handful of vulgar comments on YouTube. Fine.

Anyhow, “Acornsucks” was DEFENDING the video and is clearly a right-winger. Is “Acornsucks” representative of your side? No.

If you dont agree with someones views or opinions or beliefs, why not move on, bypass, why stick around and comment? Many on the right bypass the left every day for good reasons, the vulgarness, rudenes disrespectness. Sara Palins Vagina? thats so trash and unclassy but very typical and expectant from the left. We conservatives are no longer surprised by this common anymore type of behavior from the other side. Madeliene is exercizing her free speech, your clearly do, so whos really the hypocrit judging here? She gave her views, get over it!

Good for you for expressing your political views, though I disagree with them. However, the central claim of this blog post is not supported by the evidence. ACORNSUCKS, as the name suggests, is not a progressive person. In fact, as you would have seen when you looked at the comments, he was actually defending your video and attacking others when he used the vulgar term. So it’s kinda dishonest for you to present his comment as coming from “the Left.”

Likewise, TheAtheist79 is not a “liberal.” If you google search the name, you’ll see that he/she posts around the internet denying that climate change is real.

As for UniversalHourglass, well he definitely is the most vulgar and does spend time in the comments attacking conservatives. However, if you look at his youtube feed, you’ll see that he’s just a kook who makes vulgar comments to everyone.

If you want to express your beliefs that’s great. But please don’t start down this path of using Breitbart tactics to try to create fake controversies.

I’ll shorten my longer post and see if McAulay will still censor the posts here and only allow the ones she thinks are vulgar enough pass through…

“AcornSucks” is RW, not a leftie. Another post isn’t vulgar at all. 2 out of 120 comments on YouTube. Wow. I’ve seen more vulgar comments on puppy videos. “Okay, I will leave it at that” is an obvious lie, she’s got nothing more.

And, McAulay is a Breitbart blogger making her a massive hypocrite. Breitbart is full of vulgar, racist, and filthy comments far worse than anything here yet she says nothing.

Meanwhile, Dana Loesch and other Breitbart cronies, who have disgustingly been exploiting and profiting off of a 16 year old girl for a year, jump in to squash any opposition by shouting fellow conservatives into silence in the comments here.

You are being a bully with a high school girl that has a bigger set than you.

You are posting on her site, and not yours, so if you can’t be gracious, find another blog site.

Personally, I think she should automatically delete anything that is vulgar or contains cussing. From her other posts, I doubt she will filter those. Like I said, she is a tremendous young woman with character. Ergo, a threat.

What kind of Breitbart blogger wouldn’t know that “AcornSucks” is probably a conservative? “Acornsucks” favorites Romney videos and was DEFENDING this one.

2 vulgar comments out of 120.

“But two is too many!”

If you take offense at this ratio of anonymous internet YouTube commenters, then fine. I suggest you don’t go on YouTube anymore. It’s a rough ole internet. “The comments became disgusting, vulgar, and completely stupid.” While “stupid” is still up for debate, the “turn for the worse” described is pure fiction.

Two is, however, unmistakably far too few to make this absurd broadstroke, “the true colors of the Left need to be shown”. Madeleine didn’t show anything other than two vulgar comments. Why aren’t the many comments that were “civil” more indicative of the “left”? Madeleine is making a massive generalization of the worst kind. Condemning a huge group of people on the evidence of one or two examples is terribly fallacious. Is “AcornSucks” representative of all right-wing/conservative leaning people? No.

The comment on this post, by “Sarah Palin’s V” is vulgar. Since, McAulay is espousing the “Breitbart way” why doesn’t she just post the IP address like has been suggested? The Breitbart people post personal information of their targets online all the time and have no problem with it.

Also, as I’ve said, McAulay is a Breitbart blogger. This makes any complaining about comments hilariously hypocritical. There are dozens of vile, vulgar, racist, and beyond the pale hateful comments on that site every single day. Anyone who has been to the Breitbart sites knows this to be true.

But, the hypocrite’s point (that there were a couple of vulgar comments on YouTube and this blog post) does not disappear. They can be taken on their own merit. But, the hypocrite loses the moral high ground by not holding up her end of the argumentative bargain. “Look at how bad these comments are!”, while comments by her own “side”, on a website that she contributes to, have a set of comments far worse. The hypocrite makes a special case for herself while wanting others to uphold a higher standard. It’s a moral and logical abomination.

So, this whole thing is basically a joke. Feigned outrage over proven fabricated and inflated “evidence” used to make ridiculously broad generalizations. Add the Breitbart crew, like Dana Loesch bullying opposition (even amongst fellow conservatives) and exploiting Madeleine as some kind of online untouchable after profiting off of her for a year or more. Not every pimp wears a costume like Dana’s colleague James O’Keefe.

Very easy to see through this kind of stageshow. Hopefully, Madeleine can pry the fangs of the Breitbart vampires out of her neck at some point.

People like this FYM person need to be put up against a wall and shot. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go f*ck yourself you f*cking b*tch. You are like all lefties. Just a communist who wants others to think like you.

We need to round up these homo-lovers, put a fence around them, and let them starve to death.

These bullies think harassing a white teenage girl is cool. I’ve got news for you you hippy scum ****sucker, we conservatives will never bow to your Marxist dreams. Lock and load.

People like this FYM person need to be put up against a wall and shot. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go *#)$ yourself you *$)#ing b*#($. You are like all lefties. Just a communist who wants others to think like you.

We need to round up these homo-lovers, put a fence around them, and let them starve to death.

These bullies think harassing a white teenage girl is cool. I’ve got news for you you hippy scum ****s*cker, we conservatives will never bow to your Marxist dreams. Lock and load.

People like this FYM person need to be put up against a wall and shot. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go *#)$ yourself you *$)#ing b*#($. You are like all lefties. Just a commie who wants others to think like you.

We need to round up these gay-lovers, put a fence around them, and let them starve to death.

These bullies think harassing a white teenage girl is cool. I’ve got news for you you hippy scum ****s*cker, we conservatives will never bow to your Marxist dreams. Lock and load.

People like this FY person need to be put up against a wall. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go *#)$ yourself you *$)#*# b*#($. You are like all lefties. Just a commie who wants others to think like you.

We need to round up these homo-lovers, put a fence around them, and let them starve.

These bullies think harassing a white teenage girl is cool. I’ve got news for you you hippy scum $&@, we conservatives will never bow to your Marxist dreams. Lock and load.

People like this FY person need to be put up against a wall. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go *#)$ yourself. You are like all lefties. Just a commie who wants others to think like you.

People like this FY person need to be put up against a wall. How dare they speak to Ms. McAulay in such a manner. Go *#)$ yourself. You are like all lefties. Just a commie who wants others to think like you.

You are one dumb fu@k, you will never amount to anything in life because you are a racist, homophobic and secretly disgruntled little girl who has no friends, so this is why she turns to hate blogging.

You act like people who are gay are some kind of monsters that they do not deserve the basic civil rights you possess. Remember you are endowed by your creator with certain unalienable rights life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You are trying to repress a gays and denying them there right to pursue happiness. I am a Republican and I find your videos disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself. Hopefully you never amount to anything in life because people like you do not deserve the right be happy or successful.

FYMKQH7 makes several valid points. (I only wish s/he’d made them once, rather than as many times as s/he did… Answering comments in reply is one thing; being needlesly repetitive, on multiple threads, is quite another.) I’d be interested in hearing Madeleine’s reply.

My take is there are idiots and asses all across the political spectrum, and they do deserve to be called out by those who they most offend.
(Yes, truely honest and even-handed bloggers and commenters would call out political friends and foes with equal vigor and volume, but, well, alot of folks are driven more by partisanship than down-the-line honesty and fairness, and that’s ok too. While we may have more / extra respect for folks who are willing to call out their own with the same ferosity as they do those they oppose, there is nothing wrong with playing for one’s own team; There’s no obligation to be “fair and balanced” in partisan blogging, nor should there be.)

On the other hand, it’s absolute nonsense to choose the worst comments by the most vile folks, and claim that they represent the whole of the political point of view they claim to be speaking for. Madeleine is no more responsible for the nasty comment by “AcornSucks” (almost certainly a fellow conservative, in spite of being labelled a “vulgar liberal” in the post) than I am. And I as a liberal am no more responsible for the nasty comments from “Logic is Calling” or “SPV” than Madeleine is. People are individuals, not monolithic political parties or social groups. There are conservative atheists, gay Christians, liberals opposed to marriage equality on religious or moral grounds, and pretty much any other “contradiction to the common wisdom or stereotype” you can name. Generalizing about a whole group of people based on a few cherry picked examples of bad behavior is how bigotry starts, and political bigotry in no better or more acceptable than any other kind.

By all means, call out any/all individuals who say or do vile or violent things… …but don’t pretend that their bad behavior “proves” anything about the folks who share their political views… (…just like you wouldn’t their ethnicity, their religion, their gender, …)

For the record, I didn’t say that Madeleine had the right to speak her mind in that post over on my blog, as I claimed in my reply to JSF yesterday. (I did say it–and before JSF mentioned it, too, believe it or don’t (I can’t prove it, so believe what you will…) but it’s in a post about the youtube video that’s not completed / posted yet…)

All these posts attempting to intimidate and silence the young lady are most likely coming from the same person, or small group of hate filled persons attempting to create an illusion of “hateful conservative” comments.

The left succeeds only through lies, propaganda, deception, and illusion.

True christians are not vulgar.

Madeleine, may God continue to bless and keep you as you testify of the Love and Righteousness of Jesus Christ.

I served in a special operations unit for over 10yrs. I meet president Bush, 3 times to be exact. When Obama took office he trashed us who protect this place we call America, Bush never once bashed the soldiers. I spent over 3 yrs between Iraq and Afghanistan. Its nice to see that there are kids/people who still love God and Country. I was thinking my generation may had been the last that held those beliefs. You young lady have given people hope that your generation will not stand quietly. Always keep your faith in God and Country. Dont ever let these people who say such volgur things bring you down. They are showing there worth.. ZERO.

Sorry to hear of the death threats, the evils of homosexual activism are hostile. When one has to try to justify ones own actions/”lifestyles” contrary to the teaching of the Bible and the way that God created one, it must put on a lot of stress.

I hope you are growing in the word with solid Biblical teaching to have your bering strait.

I have two little ones (ages 2 & 4), whom I know you can be a good example to them. Keep up the good work.

“If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people.” (Leviticus 20:18)

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of the town. They shall say to the elders, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death…” (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

My wife and I will add you to our prayer list, you are on the front lines, you are a target. Always remember that “…a curse without a cause cannot alight…” stay strong, stay pure, stay in His Word. Keep responding with his Word, then it is not you speaking but Him through you. You don’t have to quote chapter and verse, just use the principles and truths.

As a 31 year old Conservative, I am so impressed with your poise, grace and knowledge in a very hostile political environment. For 16, you are much versed in the truth than people twice your age! You are going to do great things with your life and so proud of what you have accomplished. Keep up the great work!!!

Isaac, you are an idiot. You have no understanding of scripture, so stop trying to use it. If you really believe your perversion is legitimate, why are you wasting your time on a young girl’s website? Do you actually believe you are going to convince people that perversion is normal, and that right is wrong? All of the animal kingdom will instruct you in the proper use of the sex organs, if you will take the time to observe them.

Stay strong Madeleine, Jesus said, you will be hated for my namesake. If any of these far left radical fools ever read the Bible, they might see how what they are doing and saying has been predicted and they are what the Bible tells us to be ware of.

I will say a prayer for your safety and seeing how such a bright young girl can be so brave tells me I need to stand up myself more then I do.

If you don’t stand for something, you’ll except anything

A government so big to give you everything, is big enough to take everything away.

Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.

Great job standing up for your convictions. In a world of uncivil noise Your clear and reasoned stance and basis in the Word of God shines through. You can never go wrong with that. He has so much better things to say than we could ever come up with. Blessings. And if you have time check out and share this blog http://www.codeofagentleman.blogspot.com/
In Christ,
Pastor Mark

If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.

Madeline, I’m sure you’re swamped with comments now, but I’m gonna say it anyway: I’m proud as all get-out to see a 16-year-old standing so strong for her beliefs. As a lesbian, I am continually appalled at the vitriol being spewed by gay leftists who will turn around and claim to be great, shining beacons of tolerance and respect.

They are the monster they accuse others of being. You’re honest and you speak your mind intelligently, and for that I hope your parents know how incredible you are. I thank God for your parents raising you the way they have and I hope that more young men and women follow your lead. Don’t ever give up!

“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.” (Leviticus 25:44-45)

Exodus 21:20-21 “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”

So the people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.

So I S A A C, your view is that, since God allowed things like this to happen in the Old Testament, that God is not worth following?

Not exactly sure what message you are trying to convey, but I have always found that a straight out declaration of your views will instantly allow people insight into what you believe, and what your character really is.

So what!! Parts of the Bible deal with people who are under condemnation, and therefore answerable to the law.

Other parts deal with those who are no longer under the law. Or Christians.

But has the law been done away with? No.

That is the beauty of Christianity. You can choose whom you will submit to, and then you will bear the fruit of that union. The Bible is a book that is wide open to those that are seeking, and is a closed mystery to those who are enemies of God.

Maybe knowing that, it would become evident why you don’t understand the message.

Interesting selection (e.g. cherry picking) or OT scripture there. The first two deal with slavery, and the third involves the results of stubbornly resisting the Lord.

The three quote are in reverse order. Context is important so I’ll mention the Exodus quotes first:
Exodus 12:29-30 “So the people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.”

Egypt had enslaved the descendents of the man who had saved their entire nation from starvation (Genesis 41) and KEPT them in slavery for 400 years. If the Jamestown colony had enslaved the local natives (e.g. Pocahontas) instead of marrying them (e.g. Pocahontas) and kept them as slaves to this present day there would be a near equivalence. Now if a British refugee had been enslaved, then by a series of miracles been made chief off all the tribes of Virginia, saved them all from death, then brought his family over to settle, but settlers had then been enslaved after a few generations and been kept in slavery until 2012 THEN you would have equivalence.

That is ingratitude on an epic scale.

And Moses had been saying “Let my people go” for several months, and backing up his demands with miracles that even Pharaoh’s house magicians had to admit were miracles and not tricks. They were aware of what the God who IS God wanted, but decided to refuse to obey. Up to that point God had pointedly made their lives miserable, but He hadn’t killed anyone. Moses initially didn’t even ask for freedom, but only a 3 day leave of absence. After ten plagues, the Pharaoh continued to disobey the God he knew was more powerful than any of the gods he claimed to worship. He used up his chances and God responded.

Exodus 21:20-21 “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”

At the time, slavery was universal. The descendents of Israel (aka Jacob) to whom God is speaking had just been freed from 400 years of slavery themselves. During that time the Egyptians had no such restrictions on their behavior. Beating a slave to death was of no more import than sending a still usable car to the crusher would be today. A waste of resources perhaps, but no moral component.

That was the way the (as I mentioned) universal practice of slavery was done. That was the example the Jews could be expected to follow, except that the Lord intervened. He didn’t choose to forbid slavery then. He knew His people weren’t even going to remember Him over their generations, but He did put some restrictions on their treatment of their own slaves, restrictions that were unprecedented for the time.

“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.” (Leviticus 25:44-45)

Israel was forbidden to go out slave raiding, unlike any other people of the time. They could buy those who were already slaves, but not capture anyone who wasn’t. And any slaves they bought had to be treated better than anyone else treated them.

Read the following for a bit of God’s views on the practice of slavery.
Ephesians 6:5-8
Philemon

From history, consider that it was Christians in the U.S. and England (see Amazing Grace) who finally eliminated the practice in the western world. In the Islamic world and the far east you will find slavery, even today.

Finally Issac, I’ll remind you that God issues many warnings before someone either obeys Him, or He lowers the boom. He made His intentions clear about men, women, and marriage early in the Bible, well before slavery became an issue. God is patient, but He will spank when He decides the time is right. Shining on the spankings and going for repeats is not recommended.

There are some absolutely phenomenal teens that will do our country good if they get involved in politics. Someone has to be able to verbalize the consequences of leftist policies, and the damage they will surely do.

Don’t be discouraged by the homosexuals. As the scripture says, “they have given themselves over to reprobate minds.” Keep doing what you’re doing! Real America is with you, and who really cares what the deviant perverts think, anyway? You are awesome!!

Madeleine,
I am so very proud of you!
You provide, for me, hope in the upcoming generation!
I have an eleven year old son who is beginning to show his conservatism and has already experienced some backlash from it.

I am going to show your website to him and give him a link to your site as encouragement to him letting him know he is not alone. It isn’t just the old folks that stand up for what is right and holy.

To all the vile despicable posters herein that make sexual comments and suggestions to this MINOR, let me remind you that is criminal (at least in OK) to make these types of comments to a minor “Lewd and lascivious proposals to a minor of a sexual explicit nature is punishable……and felonious”
I pray that since this is occuring online that the feds pursue criminal charges against the scum that engage in this abuse. Fat chance, since the Federal government’s ‘top cop’, Eric Holder, is a criminal also!

Madeleine, has the POTUS called you yet apologizing to you for the names called to you? Fat chance there too, huh?

Keep up the good work Madeleine. Our country is at a desperate turning point with this issue of Sodomy. God’s view of this sin has never changed. Even before the Law was given to Moses, God destroyed the cities of the plain for this degrading behaviour. This sin is at the end of a long road of putting God out of their minds. The Bible says that “God gave them up to a reprobate mind”. This is not a sin of passion but a sin of hardening themselves against God over a long period of time. Those who practice this lifestyle can be saved, but they are difficult to reach as their consciences have been seared. I believe we are already under the judgment of God because of the murder of innocent babies. Remember, God pardoned Manassah but He could not look over the fact that he had shed innocent blood in the streets of Jerusalem. Our job as believers is to pray that God will stay His judgment so that the Gospel can continue to go our of our country around the world. Our hope is not in politics, but we should still be a light and salt in that area. I have a daughter your age and she also is very outspoken and grounded in her beliefs that come from the Eternal Word of God. Keep your eyes on the Lord.

Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I’m very proud of you Madeleine. Don’t be discouraged by the vile comments. Remember Christ’s comments on the cross. Those who walk in darkness do not realize their deeds are wrong. Their ignorance is a product of the darkness and they really don’t know any better. For this reason you should be all the more outspoken and unphased by their comments. Because even though agewise compared to most of them you are a child, in truth God has instilled you with a wisdom that compared to them makes you the adult and them the child.

Hang in there girl. I wish we could clone your “mutant” political gene into a few thousand more conservative kids.

A few suggestions for you to take or leave as you will:

Start a business. No reason to wait until you’re done with High School or College. Get advice on the nuts & bolts from your folks and any other adults you trust. Partner with some friend or friends who have a mutant business gene like unto your political gene. Jump in and get your hands dirty making the business run and prosper.

Finish your education. Take what scholarships you can, but don’t get loans. Use your business profits to fund what scholarships won’t.

Remember, at 25 you can run for the House, and with a successful business background you’ll be able to do something useful…as opposed to the leftish prodigies like the current Veep who go straight from law school into politics.

Although I disagree with some of your stands, I APPLAUD YOU for your character and your mature approach to being able to discuss things in a respectful way.

Those who oppose you(i.e. the left) only show how ignorant the left truly is because they do not have the tolerance or mutual respect for any opinion but their own. Rather than discuss it in a civil manner, they can do nothing other than sling mud. Just more proof that they are the ignorant ones.

A brief introduction on myself: I consider myself an “Independent” politically and socially. Sexually, I am straight. I’m conservative on many things, but I support gay marriage (and will explain why in a moment). I understand your religious beliefs do not accept the concept. And I accept that you are not going to change your view. That’s your commitment to your religion and I salute you for staying true to who you are. In short, I ACCEPT YOU and honor you in spite of our difference of opinion on this issue.

That said, I would like to engage you in a short debate here (excuse the occasional use of capitals… I’m not trying to indicated a “Shout” but, rather, I’m trying to stress certain points here and I cannot use italics in this reply format).

1.) I would agree that it is the right of ANY church to ban gay marriage if the church leaders should deem it so. Would you agree with that?

2.) Then would you agree that SOME churches ALSO have the right to ACCEPT gay marriages if THAT church/religion deemed so by its leaders?

3.) Would you agree that the Constitution stipulates we separate religion from government in the sense that Government should make its laws independent of any religion (example: Sharia Law is a Muslim approach and should never be forced on the American Public)?

4.) I think you and I would also agree that there’s NOTHING WRONG with government acknowledging certain religious rites such as celebrating Christmas with a Holiday the same as Jewish holidays, and other religions? It doesn’t violate the “separation of church and state” in my opinion. Would you agree?

How are we doing so far? I think we’re pretty much in agreement, wouldn’t you? OK, then, let’s continue.

5.) Returning to the Constitution for a moment, “The Pursuit Of Happiness” is a right guaranteed to ALL in this country, would you still agree with me? Common sense tells you that The Constitution does NOT say “You have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… unless you’re gay.” It promises the right to all.

6.) While we agree that if a church wants to ban gay marriage as part of their belief, that’s absolutely their prerogative to do so, if another church is willing to establish a Marriage that is not associated with any other church, why should THAT be banned? But yet, then why do you (or anyone else) have the right at the STATE level to BAN gay marriage? Don’t you believe that a qualified, recognized church has the right to sanction it? Because if you DO BAN such a marriage via STATE legislation, you are forcing YOUR will over the rights of others. How do you justify this? It’s no longer about your church, Madeleine, it’s about a couple’s CIVIL RIGHTS, and has nothing to do with your Church (which we separate from government) or the state itself. Please reply with your thoughts on this.

7.) And finally, what if communities or states (as some have done) establish a civil marriage outside your church that allows gays to celebrate their union as a married couple? They’re not asking your permission to be happy in a union. Why should they seek YOUR blessing when they know you will not recognize it as such? Why should you be able to impose your belief over someone else’s? That is not what freedom is. You write of the intolerance of the left, but truly the intolerance on this issue is in those who would deny gay couples the same right of marriage which DOES have a HUGE impact when it comes to right of survivor, visitation rights in case of illness or accident and much more.

Perhaps it’s because most heterosexuals just squirm at the thought of a same-sex couple. Well it becomes your responsibility at that point to show YOUR tolerance and respect. Personally, I don’t like extreme public demonstrations of kissing, groping etc. But it bothers me as much with straight couples as it does gays. But that’s MY hangup and as such I have to put it aside because those who are doing the kissing etc. have the right to express their feelings (to a legal limit of course). It’s NOT a perfect world and, as such, we ALL have to show tolerance in order to respect the rights of those we do not share a common belief with, again, as long as people do so within the boundaries of our laws.

I have an ex-girlfriend who constantly had issues in relationships with men and eventually realized it was because she was TRYING to be straight only to discover her natural inclination was to a same-sex scenario. Once she realized that, she met a partner and, together, raised the daughter of that woman (who was divorced and also realized her real inclination). They have been together for going on 30 years and have been one of the most caring, nurturing couples I’ve known in my entire life. The daughter has grown up with full acceptance of her parents and has since gone on to get married in a heterosexual relationship with FULL SUPPORT of her gay moms. What could possibly be seen as unacceptable there? They did a wonderful job of parenting. Compare that to the countless divorces amongst heterosexuals that result in broken homes and children who grow up dysfunctional as a result.

Whew! I’m done, Madeleine, but I really WOULD like you to respond to this. There has GOT to be some sort of common ground or else we totally miss the point of “E Pluribus Unum.” “From many, ONE.”

Finally, as a person who was raised as a Christian (Roman Catholic, to be precise), I must say I left the church for so many examples of hypocrisy. And I don’t blame my lord and Savior, Jesus Christ for that… I blame the mortals who run the church. When you have a church run by flawed people (right up to the Pope who is widely believed to have been an integral part of the implementation of the cover-up of pedophile priests), I have to TRULY ask myself, “What would Jesus Do?” But regardless of your answer, Jesus Christ is NOT the President and NOT the government of the United States. And it is the UNITED STATES that should honor its own Constitution in recognizing the rights of gays to be allowed to legally unite in their own union of marriage.

Please respond to this, Madeleine and, once again, I DO salute you in all other areas of your beliefs and the way you lead by showing others that people CAN agree to disagree without resorting to the kinds of vile filth that many on the left throw at you out of their own ignorance and intolerance. I wish you well!

“Would you agree that the Constitution stipulates we separate religion from government in the sense that Government should make its laws independent of any religion”

I will never agree with you on that because that is not what the constitution says. Read it for yourself and you will see that the only people affected by the restriction in the first amendment is the congress, which is made of about 535 people. There are no restrictions on you and me as common people, or upon local governmental agencies.

Liberals have tried to impose their own quirky rules to this, and practically every other law that is on the books, but don’t claim that this is the will of the founders.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

Furthermore, the construction of the sentence is an either or and it means that there are 2 (TWO) #2 emphasis added by me, there are 2 things congress CANNOT DO AND BOTH ARE OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE.

A simpleton knows that common people uttering God’s name or laws does not establish a religion. The wording is such that CONGRESS cannot do it. Every other thing congress does needs to also not prohibit the FREE EXERCISE thereof. And that dear liberal you are guilty of.

So agree with you? NO.

I have stated elsewhere my opposition to same sex marriage, so I will not repeat myself.

WOW!!! this young girl is amazing!! Im am not a religious person at all but it is refreshing to hear that there are still some young people out there wanting to make a difference…. i cannot believe that grown adults would write such filthy gross comments to a 16 year old! i understand that she is putting herself out there but geez…. its not like the girl said she wanted to blow up all the gays and athesist around the world… i dont get what she said that was so ignorant… most people in the world think like this and up till about two weeks ago so did President Obama… the sad thing about all these haters is that most likely they hate there lives and it makes them upset when they see a well educated young lady doing something with her life; that makes them upset for some reason! in the end she is 16!! We should be praising her not hating her! because we are all Americans and we all have opinions!

Good for you Young lady. God will reward you at some point, here or on the other side. Critisium from those that don’t even know what sex they are is laughable. Being a beliver is not easy, if it were everyone would be. Remember, GOD said that by faith alone we will be saved. Works are only a sign of salvation, standing up for GOD’s word is the first one. Congradulations, I will see you there.

I would like to remind Christians that, if your opposition to same sex marriage is the *yuck* factor, you will lose the argument every time. The debate must be grounded in Biblical truth.

I am seeing a Christian community that does not know how to address the arguments in favor of same sex marriage. I don’t think telling them they will burn in hell will win the battle. After all, you are opposing love.

No, the only way we win is to frame the argument as a challenge to God, which it really is. They will throw out the love argument, or the intolerant argument, but the real issue is the challenge to God’s authority in marriage, society and the world.

The vulgar and repulsive attacks against this young woman are not acceptable and the vast majority of them are more than likey perpetrated by immature juveniles or adults acting as such. Once you take that path you immediately discredit any content you post.
Many peole have personal, deep beliefs about homosexuality just as a belief in reference to gun ownership or the “right” that every individual on goverment assistance is entitled to a free cell phone and we are perfectly normal to think the opposing opinion is wrong.
Hence the ability of an individual in the US to pick an area of the country, (ie: State) with laws that more conform to their opinions and beliefs. It is not a “Love It or Leave It” issue as you are completely within your right to attempt to change such laws. Clearly it is not goverment dictating morality or who an individual can marry as much as it is the people of this country and several of it’s states voting individuals into office for 236 years that have made these laws according to the will of the majority of peole who live here. The pro-gay marriage group needs to stop wasting it’s energy on playing the victim and crying that someone is stealing their happiness. Get laws changed or go to a place where you can be happy.

Another thought, I don’t care how much or often someone screams there is no GOD; everyone knows inside themselves that there is. They choose to ignore GOD BECAUSE they want to continue in their sin. I have had the opprotunity and the good fortune to be with true belivers when they passed from here to there and it was always a peaceful event. However, most nonbelievers at the end are terrified at the thought of passing because it is then that they see their eternity. This to I have witnessed once, It is not oblivion, it is, and they can see, it is eternal punishment. So GOD is not a cruel GOD, HE is a JUST and loving GOD. Where would be the justice if joe spent his life in sin and GOD didnot punish it? It is the LORD GOD Almighty’s plan, HIS rules are there for all to see. YOU choose, HE rewards accordingly.

The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword: their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.
— Hosea 13:16

“In that day those the LORD has slaughtered will fill the earth from one end to the other. No one will mourn for them or gather up their bodies to bury them. They will be scattered like dung on the ground.”
—- Jeremiah 25:33

“When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males …. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.” (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

I just came across your blog from all the stories going around about the attacks you received while discussing gay marriage. I am excited about reading more of your work since it is very very very rare to come across other teenagers who have had such a wide political voice; much less enjoy politics.

Young Lady, Always Speak Your Truth When You Believe That You Are Right, Without Regard As To The Slings And Arrows Of Those Who Disagree With You !
Stay Strong, And Fight The Good Fight For What You Believe !
Andrew Would Be Proud Of You !

Madeline.. At one time “liberalism” was honorable. They would say “I might not agree with what you say-but I WILL defend your right to your beliefs”. Since they were hi-jacked by the far left. It is now “I do not agree with your beliefs so I will take you to court”or bully you. Hang tough Madeline..

John you are an idiot. The left are still the ones who say “do whatever you want as long as it doesnt affect my beliefs” it is you and her that say “If you dont follow God’s teachings that you are viable for arrest and to be killed and denied rights.. And “Mad” is a neo-conservative. An extremist, a radical. She is the one putting her religious beliefs as the sole reason why things should be or should not be allowed. That my friend is someone who is ignorant.. You have your history mixed up but thats okay I would suspect that from someone who gets all his information about law from a 16 year old radical. keep drinking the Kool-aid dude becuase your mind is too far gone.

Actually, you are the one who is incorrect. At one point, liberals were far more conservative than they are today. What is sad is that you are chastizing a 16 year old for expressing an opinion. She is not radical in any way as she clearly states that she has nothing against gay people.

You are just another example of why it is impossible to have civil discussions. C’mon, pick on someone your own age for starters.

Madeleine – I am very excited for you and for our nation! We need godly men and women – people of integrity who live by principles and not polls – to lead this nation. I have been praying that God will raise up people like that at all levels of our governments – federal, state, and local. You, and others like you, are our only hope of turning this thing around! I will pray that God will raise you up and use you to help bring us back to our roots. We are losing the blessings of God because we have turned from him; hopefully this November we will start the turn back by electing godly people who love the Lord and will live by his decrees.

I feel sorry for you . Your not the kind of person who makes this country great . I”m afraid your parents didnt do the good job of parenting you believe they did . Madelaine you do not stand for jesus’ teachings in fact your opinions are the opposite of his teachings . You will be sadly lonely in the future if you do not seek help now .
god bless i hope you find help , You prob shoul see a lawyer and see if you can become emancipated from your parents .
John

Jesus’ teachings include unacceptance to homosexuality. She is simply saying she believes in what the Bible says. She is not prancing around talking about what a wonderful, Christian young woman she is, she is calmly stating what the Bible says and what she believes to be true. If that is not a good example of Christianity, I don’t know what is.
Predicting someone’s fate is not something just anyone can do. And she will never be alone; she will always have Jesus.

why doesnt everyone leave her alone and let her do her thing,she has the right to her opinions just like everyone else does,so why post these threats and everyone thing else, sum of yall are actually commiting hate crime against her which can be traced back to you and can possibly be sued.but anyways.i dont see what all the fuse is about,i mean im against the government anyways cuz they are whats destorying the world .i am a believer and i am also gay and soon to be married to my partner which she is also a believer and i have 2 kids too and what i do doesnt effect them in anyway,so explain to me my why i am concidered an outsider when im just like everyone else,oh which God made me along with all of yall? i have my opinions just just like she does but i dont disgrace her and or bully her to just make a point or what ever turns yall on.this is supposed to be a christian free speaking world,that the Lord himself put us here to try and get along which obviously is not working cuz theres hatred and wars going on cuz of people like yall.i dont vote cuz it doesnt make a difference,they already know who they gonna get cuz its all about the money,everything is about money,whether im gay or straight doesnt change who i am on the inside.i love people all kinds no matter what they have done cuz i dont judge which is what the bible says not to do if u wanna bring the bible up in debate.now no offense i have read the bible and no where in it doesnt talk bout same sex marriages or anything on that line,it says pretty much that it is tradition that a man and woman be together in marriage and also somewhere in there it mentions in the 10 commendments that no sex before marriage.also in the bible if u have read it there were 3 incidents of the same sex going on,what happened to them but no one wants to bring that up,did i also mention that in the bible it says u can be codemned to hell if ur against GOD,who we are doesnt change who we are on the inside remember that if ur looking at a person from the outside ur judging them,well let me tell u,im a highly respected person in 3 states,i was in law enforcement,im sick right now and cant work,i dont use the government for assistant like alot of people do and i go to work with my gf everyday and i play on my computer doing volunteer work for others,did i tell i was married for 10 yrs to a creep who controlled me and occasionaly hit on me when things didnt go his way,or used me and took everything i had from me,but still doesnt change who i am it just makes me stronger and wiser,it doesnt mean i have hate against men just means i enjoy the company and the relationship that i have now.i could go on and on but its not gonna change anything cuz sum people these days in time are stuck in their own lil world and living in a fairy tale and stuck on themselfs and not worried about nuttin else around them as long as they have money. just saying

I may not agree with what your preference is, but in the end, you are allowed to do what makes you happy.

The reality is that people on the left have been manipulated into believing that they are the victims in all this, so when someone goes against their line of thinking – even in a respectful manner as this young lady did – they immediately go on the offensive and smear the person for not agreeing with them and making a respectful disagreement turn into a war of horrible words and threats.

Back when this country was started, there were people from all walks of life and all sorts of beliefs. Despite their differences, they made it work. It’s called compromise. The problem is that we – as a country – are now divided by our own personal interests. The left wants free everything, big government, etc. while the right wants capitalism and for everyone to have the OPPORTUNITY to succeed. There is no in between. It is now a one way street, no matter how you hash it out.

And then there is the Tea Party. While they are conservative in nature, they have a genuine purpose. They want to save America. They want America to once again be a beacon of freedom. They know that, in order to get to what we once were, we must prepare to make great sacrifices across the board and are ready to do so.

What people need to realize – and you show that you have based on the beginning of your response – is that it is not one side or another: everything about the government is horrible today. Because both sides want their way so badly, no one gets their way, and everyone ends up suffering in the end. Our issues need to be solved quickly or we will soon go down with the European Union.

Madeleine, in a sense, it doesn’t surprise me that there are so many who have attacked you over this issue. While I am appalled by some of the comments you have received, I am not really surprised by it: you shouldn’t be either. In a way, I can’t fault the people with liberal mindsets for the way they approach many issues that affect them. I tend to fault those who are appointed over them: be it politicians, professors, teachers, public speakers and the like.

People who operate on the liberal mind set are trained to take the “I am the victim” route, while people of a conservative cloth prefer to overlook being a victim and find ways to make life better for the collective. You are a very bright, young INDIVIDUAL. I place an emphasis on that word because you chose to decide what was right in your mind and heart. You didn’t dish out any low blows; you just gave an opinion, and a brave one at that.

I don’t know what is worse: the vulgarity of the comments you received, or the fact that definite majority of the negative feedback you received likely came from adults. I am almost certain that if you were a liberal in support of gay marriage, the negative feedback you received from conservatives would have most certainly received support from the likes of the MSM (main stream media…who happen to be in Obama’s back pocket), GLAAD, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and so on. But that is not the case. In the eyes of the liberal, you are a black sheep.

Don’t worry, though. What people on the far left don’t realize is that the conservative population is so much stronger than they can even begin to imagine. They are so busy playing the victim and attacking anyone who so much as imagines the word conservative, and yet, we are in prime position to stage a massive take over. You are just one example of true courage. The fact that you are so willing to step up and be heard speaks so much to who you are as a person. Keep doing what you’re doing, and see that your future is realized. Best of luck to you and stay strong.

“People who operate on the liberal mind set are trained to take the “I am the victim” route, while people of a conservative cloth prefer to overlook being a victim and find ways to make life better for the collective.”

Ironic that you’re saying this at a post whose main purpose is to say “Look! People I disagree with (and who disagree with me) were mean to me on the Internet.” If that’s not victimhood, I don’t know what is…

That’s not to say that a whole lot of these people aren’t obnoxious trolls… but that doesn’t make them liberals, and it certainly doesn’t justify pretending that they represent all liberals, anymore than George Tierney Jr of Greenville, South Carolina (and folks like him) represent all conservatives. People are individuals, and there are idiots and asses all throughout the political spectrum. Sweeping generalizations based on ascribing the antics of the worst behaving people who are or claim to be in a particular party to everyone in that political party is what leads to bigotry. While it seems to get a pass, especially in the partisan blogosphere, political bigotry is no more honest or intelligent than racial, religious, or any other kind of bigotry…

Conservatives are not responsible for the vile things George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina said about Sandra Fluke and other liberal women on Twitter. George Tierney is.

Liberals are not responsible for the things SPV, Logic, and the other trolls have said here, either. The people who posted them are.

Tim, the notion that marriage is between one man and one woman is not intolerant at all. Your side loses the fight before it’s even begun by claiming such nonsense, and by labeling anyone who disagrees with you as a bigot. Grow up and learn to engage in intellectually honest conversations, please. Sixteen year old Madeleine can do it, so hopefully so can you.

I’m saying that calling somebody else’s way of living as against the will of god, which is what she said, as bigoted.

You think it isn’t bigoted to say that you reserve certain rights for yourself and that others who want them are against god?

Oh, and you just have to be tolerant of my intolerance, which is the biggest joke of all. Don’t hide behind being 16 either. You want to come out and say things other perceived as bigoted, stop complaining about how surprised you are.

Yeah, she’s so above us ‘on the left’ because she said being gay is against god. She’s so…mature? And…non insulting to the rest of us? You really believe that?

It’s like you guys hit people then are like…OMG you hit me BACK!? That’s NOT ALLOWED. How CRUEL.

This is the same argument against black people or women voting. This is the same thing as men trying to control woman’s reproductive rights. Straight couples dictating to gay couples. It’s totally morally indefensible.

Stop claiming the moral high ground when you totally don’t have it. It’s sickening.

She is not hiding behind her age and neither is she claiming moral high ground. She has stated her beliefs, which she has a right to do.
You just stated your beliefs about her beliefs; shall I respond to that and say you’re claiming higher ground in proclaiming your acceptance of gay marriage?
If we follow God’s example, we do not cry out when we are hit, and neither do we hit.
And maybe you should stop trying to put down people when there are other people acting higher up than she is. Like yourself.

After watching your video on Same Sex marriage, I whole heartedly agree with you. I have spent almost 20 years of my life in North Carolina serving in the military and defending the freedom for you to say what you want to say. Not only do you speak the truth , but you are morally right. I find that the left who say we (Christians) are intolerant are the ones who have the idea that we should be tolerant of them “or else” That in itself is intolerant. It is not like we are stopping them from living a life of immorality or even outlawing homosexuality if that is their choice. They have been living their lives in this “immorality” since the days of Sodom and Gamorrah. I for one do not hate the homosexual if they want to live that lifestyle. But I should not be forced to have to accept the immorality associated with it. As a Christian, I do understand that it is a Biblical issue. As an American citizen, I understand it is a moral issue. If 31 states have made this a moral “right” then it seems to me that the GLBT movement should accept that their lifestyle is uniquely theirs and that the American public still see it as an immoral issue based upon the choice of the 31 states who now have identified marriage as between one man and one woman. Even if politics leaves the “Bible” out of it, It still is a moral wrong because it even goes against nature. If you ever decide to run in politics, let me know. You have my vote.

Dear Madeleine, part of your growth includes that you learn to “respond” to this nasty comments, but you are doing good, just let them talk, the best arguments to these bigots is their own comments (“out of the heart, the mouth speaketh” remember?)… surely their comments sound very “sophisticated” and “educated”… don’t you think? specially the ones who used profanity, the crap in their hearts and minds is so much, they seem to overflow through their mouths… let them be… you are doing just fine… America needs more young people like you, hopefully some 16 year old boys will react and raise up to leadership instead of playing video games all day long.
I’m so proud of you…!!!

Remember the Bible warns to the ones who believe to be firm to watch out “lest you fall” you have attracted the public attention, enjoy your youth and your life but be advised, the world is watching you. And we’ll be praying for you.

My issue with this is that you’re surprised that people trashed you. I was homeschooled growing up and I also blog. I knew when I started my blog that I would have people attack me and what I believe.

You have every right to post any opinion you want but you can’t honestly say that you didn’t think people would threaten you. You call yourself a “Political Mavrick” and that’s great but think next time you post something. Remember not everyone will agree with you and you need to learn how to deal with it.

My comments here are directed at Madeleine, who seems to be a very intelligent and articulate young lady. I do hope she gets to read them. I will not go into the issues of gay marriage, etc., as I do not live in the United States, and one of the basic issues underlying the push for gay marriage is the cultural inequality suffered by gays because of the way the American economy gives special privileges to married people in many many ways.

Here in Israel, the culture does not give families so many economic benefits per se, so gay marriage is not an economic gain for the couple. Plus, there is no civil marriage here.

As for what the Hebrew Bible says about sexual behavior, those who are not Hebrews are NOT bound by most of Torah law. ALL OF MANKIND is bound by the Seven Laws of Noah – one of which prohibits sexual immorality. But that is for a Noahide court to define; and in the absence of a Noahide court, the referendum of the people of North Carolina will suffice.

just an fyi if your going to let mom and dad puppet you and than lie on fux news maby you should see you tube again….ohhh right thay took your hateful crap off of there your only 16 and i can frogive that you dont know better but than again maby you do. so all im going to say is this …jump in the shark tank with an open wound and expect to get bitten over and over and over. dont cry to the fux meida who only loves you when thay need raitings after all the campining is done you will not be the darling you think you are. fux will go back to either “reporting ” on news with there own facts or they will bask in a mit win for about 6 months till thay figure out that he is morman and that he is as bat shit crazy as the rest of the lot. i wish you nothing but a healthy long life so you may look back at this time say 40 yrs from now and say to yourself…”wow i was wrong” but than again knowing your backround and up brinning one of 3 will happen 1. you will fade into nothing and stay there.
2. you will go into crazy christan mode and kill a dr or nurse in the name of god and go to prison. or 3. start a cult and drink the Koolaid.

Hi Madeleine! I missed all of the hullabaloo over your video, which I imagine was from the heart and in keeping with your beliefs, which I share. Just want to encourage you to keep up the awesome work. The Truth will always win in the end. Your folks must be very proud of you! I know I am. Don’t forget, our Dad can beat their dad. God bless! <3
Mia

I’m not sure if you will even read this, but I thought I’d say that you have my support. I agree completely with you and I am praying that the hateful comments will stop and the people posting them will become more mature. I will admit that I know almost nothing and am only 13, but I have already formed opinions and I agree with you on this. I believe
your maturity has shown in your response and I pray that this will not hurt you in any way. I am glad someone has had the courage to speak out as I hope to do someday when my voice will be heard.

I found your website from a link of a link of a link that someone posted somewhere. Just briefly looking through some of your articles, you seem to be an intelligent and articulated person. As for the vulgar comments, I am sorry, not only for you having to endure them, but sorry for the people that posted them. I wish we as a species could learn that our ideas and arguments are better accepted with intelligent speech rather than the spewing of profanity. This is the curse of anonymity. But, much like a knife, anonymity and its alignment is all dependent on the user.

On the subject of your video, I am of the opinion that everyone should have the right to get married in the eyes of the Government. In your video, two words that came up a few times were “I believe.” Your beliefs tell you that marriage should be between a man and a woman. The issue is that not everyone in this country shares your religious belief system. I do respect that you have your beliefs and would never ask that you do something that compromises or goes against your religion. Why should others be forced to live within your beliefs and religion?

You quote Ronald Reagan saying that “if we ever forget that we are ‘one nation, under God, we will be a nation gone under.” Reagan, in that line, does not mention thought that we are “indivisible with liberty and justice for all.” Should not all people get “the quality or state of being free; the power to do as one pleases; the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges; the power of choice (taken from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary)” as they live their lives?

Personally, I believe the voice of the minority is as important as the voice of the majority. Why should the minority suffer and loose their voice and identity in the crowd. People should be free to live their life how they want as long as it does not damage their fellow man.

Do keep thinking and talking about your views. We, as a country, become stronger when we discuss things rationally and respectfully.

So appreciative of your words. Such wisdom. I am continually amazed at the bullying, yes, bullying, from the left and those who disagree with you. So many can’t choose to disagree without name calling and vulgarity. The left should take a look in the mirror and see the hypocrisy which lies within. Americans who stand on the absolute truth must speak out because a silent nation will be a sad nation. Thank you for taking a stand.

i want to stab you in your ueterus and shove a grenade and i pray with all these stupid religious people that your ovaries will turn in to cats and explode from your mouth when your sleeping. and the vultures will come and eat all the cat pieces out of your vagina.

The comment made by Thomas Swallows may have been inappropriate, however it is clearly satirical.

You guys need to realize that just because someone says something you don’t like/it’s rude doesn’t mean it came from the left. It could be coming from someone who has no political opinion at all and the person is just being a smart ass.

You guys on the extreme right need to lighten up and if you don’t like the comment, don’t make assumptions that the person is a lefty; just figure the person is a moron.

Thank you Madeleine for standing up for your beliefs. It is very unfortunate that there is so much hate for beliefs in God and moral stances. It is a reality that there is much hate from those that complain supporting traditional marriage is “hate.” I do know some who favor SSM that are reasonable and not like that, but these voices seem drowned out by the vile comments of a lot of others in the LGBT community. Be strong!

I strongly suggest that you read the Bible from cover to cover as it is clear you have not. The Bible says marriage is between a man and and women (plural) he can have many wives. This widely practices up until the middle ages when there was shift in doctrine. Also, women had no say in who they married up until the last century. Couples had arranged marriages, and then the man would find a mistress for love. Finally, if you believe the Bible is the inerrant word of god than you have no place trying to teach a man: “I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence (Timothy 2:12)”.

Next, Timothy 2:9 “women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array”, you may think you dress modestly, but you need to go by Biblical standards and that is quite repressed style. The point I am trying to make is if you truly believe, than you must be consistent with your views. However, if you are just trying to manipulate the masses for personal and political gain, I am with you 100%. I have a fair lump of money through the exploitation of man’s ignorance. I do think you should get educated on the subject though. It makes it much easier to defend your views.

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Your views are not my own, however I respect your right to an opinion. The only thing I don’t like is that you are grouping the entire democratic party together. We aren’t all idiots who would post this vulgarity in comments. A good majority of us aren’t like that at all. The republican party has their share of people that would do this as well. So please look at the democratic party as more than the people who commented on your video.

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