Eh, I don't know man, Natalya IS awesome, but I've yet to see a flattering picture of her...

Plus if I was born a woman, I probably wouldn't have as many issues with the phallus...

piltogg wrote:So.. you wish you were a girl who is only attracted to girls?

piltogg wrote:Or like.. not actually acting on that, but just kind of absently thinking about it?

Well if I'm really honest, the fantasy is being a tentacle Daemonette, but in any degree it's a wistful thinking thing so nothing is going to come of it.

piltogg wrote:So like... a trans but some other sort of word to mean that you are dressing like a girl so that you can sleep with girls who are lesbians despite being a dude which I don't know a word for, but one probably exists.

Well that depends on what you are referring to...

As Silver said, transgender identification doesn't automatically equate to sexual preference, and then you get into cross-dressing which may or may not with a person's gender identity...

But really, I wouldn't try to deceive some sophisticated lady even if I wasn't covered in various body hairs......I mean, the whole thing would fall apart once it got into the the bedroom anyways...

Keldoclock wrote:Penises are great, they let you piss standing up and act as an excellent place to hang your drying laundry.

Dude, I sit down half the time anyways!

Plus if you have an erection lasting long enough to dry clothes on, seek immediate medical attention.

Silverdream wrote:We know that his gender is female even if he has a penis.

Eeeeeh, I'd say feminine leaning instead of outright female.Thing is, while I better identify with the greater sex, I'm not completely against being a man...

...I just didn't really have a large number of gender role-models providing good examples in my childhood...

Whiteagle wrote:Eh, I don't know man, Natalya IS awesome, but I've yet to see a flattering picture of her...

I have yet to see a flattering picture of you either, but somehow I doubt that she's the one whose appearance we'd be worrying about in that OTP.

Whiteagle wrote:...I mean, the whole thing would fall apart in the unlikely event that it ever got into the the bedroom anyways...

Natalya wrote:That role-model excuse is BS, you either want to be a girl or you don't and it probably had nothing to do with role models.

Nah, gender dysphoria from poor role models is totally a thing, particularly in victims of abusive or dysfunctional upbringing. Not being happy about manhood isn't the same as wanting to be a woman though.

Whiteagle wrote:Wait, is it homophobic to dislike the penis itself so much that you wish you were lesbian?

That happened to me once. That's why I became a lesbian.

Wait, so you hate the phallus too?

Then we must team up, to ensure a future without penises!

Natalya wrote:

stubby wrote:what the hell is going on in here

Oh, dapper means dapper. Sophisticated means the same thing I think.

I don't know what OTP means.

One True Pairing...

...Yeah, I'm not seeing it ether...

Natalya wrote:@Whiteagle:That role-model excuse is BS, you either want to be a girl or you don't and it probably had nothing to do with role models.

Well not necessarily...

I mean, this is a question of how one establishes their gender identity and what defines that identity.

What traits truly are inherent of ones biological sex and which are standards brought about through sociological conditioning?

For instance, I see myself as a caring, nurturing, and intellectual individual.In my childhood, that would mostly describe women in the local area, while most men were emotionally distant factory workers or farmers.

stubby wrote:

Whiteagle wrote:Eh, I don't know man, Natalya IS awesome, but I've yet to see a flattering picture of her...

I have yet to see a flattering picture of you either, but somehow I doubt that she's the one whose appearance we'd be worrying about in that OTP.

You've also never seen a picture of me properly groomed, just candid shots I took at home where I have a bad habit of not bathing...

stubby wrote:

Whiteagle wrote:...I mean, the whole thing would fall apart in the unlikely event that it ever got into the the bedroom anyways...

HEY!!!Don't question the seductive power of a Teen-aged Mutant Ninja Turtle comforter!!

stubby wrote:

Natalya wrote:That role-model excuse is BS, you either want to be a girl or you don't and it probably had nothing to do with role models.

Nah, gender dysphoria from poor role models is totally a thing, particularly in victims of abusive or dysfunctional upbringing. Not being happy about manhood isn't the same as wanting to be a woman though.

Well like I said, it's not so much that I'm unhappy with manhood as I better relate to people like my mother over people like my father...

Thus it's a grass is greener situation; If I'd been born a girl instead of a boy, then I probably would have gotten more personalized attention from my mother and less attempts to "correct my behavior" from my father, resulting in me being a fully-functional human being like my sister instead of the poor sad-sack of a looser I am today...