PC Matt Blakeley, from Bolton South Neighbourhood Policing Team, has urged anyone who recognises the youths pictured on the CCTV to call police on 0161 8565608 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555111.

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BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"

BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"Don Cowan

BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"

Score: 30

boltonnut
10:44pm Wed 16 Jul 14

****.

****.boltonnut

****.

Score: 0

Rememberscarborough
5:50pm Wed 16 Jul 14

If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...

If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...Rememberscarborough

If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...

Score: 87

thomas222
6:23pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Passports taken off them and take them back to where they come from... If English 10 Years in Prison.

Passports taken off them and take them back to where they come from... If English 10 Years in Prison.thomas222

Passports taken off them and take them back to where they come from... If English 10 Years in Prison.

Score: -8

Mr Happynotsad
7:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.Mr Happynotsad

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

Score: 75

mrs philainsy
7:50pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Don Cowan wrote…

BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"

Correct Mr Cowan.

[quote][p][bold]Don Cowan[/bold] wrote:
BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"[/p][/quote]Correct Mr Cowan.mrs philainsy

Don Cowan wrote…

BN!!! just when are going to get it right? Cuthbert St is in BOLTON!!!!!!! not Farnworth, but again correct reporting is alien to your "news paper"

Correct Mr Cowan.

Score: 20

Beyond News Forum
8:28pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

20 years ago we had the same problem. Let's go back a few years more... when caning was in fashion and kids still disrupted class, robbed cars and caused a general nuisance around many buildings and residential areas in this sheeethole town.

Kids know they are untouchable and Borstals didn't work either. So what is the real answer? Cannot sign them up for the army as they will be a dithering liability, can't put them in prison, can;t give them a slap... can't do anything. What is the answer.

Even if caught these kids will get nothing to deter others from doing the same and a fine will do feck all either.

If you blame the parents you punish the wrong people. You can be the best parent in the world but as soon as your kids are out of sight the rules are out of the window.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Happynotsad[/bold] wrote:
This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.[/p][/quote]20 years ago we had the same problem. Let's go back a few years more... when caning was in fashion and kids still disrupted class, robbed cars and caused a general nuisance around many buildings and residential areas in this sheeethole town.
Kids know they are untouchable and Borstals didn't work either. So what is the real answer? Cannot sign them up for the army as they will be a dithering liability, can't put them in prison, can;t give them a slap... can't do anything. What is the answer.
Even if caught these kids will get nothing to deter others from doing the same and a fine will do feck all either.
If you blame the parents you punish the wrong people. You can be the best parent in the world but as soon as your kids are out of sight the rules are out of the window.Beyond News Forum

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

20 years ago we had the same problem. Let's go back a few years more... when caning was in fashion and kids still disrupted class, robbed cars and caused a general nuisance around many buildings and residential areas in this sheeethole town.

Kids know they are untouchable and Borstals didn't work either. So what is the real answer? Cannot sign them up for the army as they will be a dithering liability, can't put them in prison, can;t give them a slap... can't do anything. What is the answer.

Even if caught these kids will get nothing to deter others from doing the same and a fine will do feck all either.

If you blame the parents you punish the wrong people. You can be the best parent in the world but as soon as your kids are out of sight the rules are out of the window.

Score: 30

jus' visitin
8:56pm Wed 16 Jul 14

I know what I'd do to the little so and so's if I got my hands on them!!!

I know what I'd do to the little so and so's if I got my hands on them!!!jus' visitin

I know what I'd do to the little so and so's if I got my hands on them!!!

Score: 19

Smeagol
9:22pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

[quote][p][bold]Mr Happynotsad[/bold] wrote:
This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?Smeagol

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

Score: -63

Andyroost
10:10pm Wed 16 Jul 14

100hrs community service for the little scum rats and £2500 fine for their parents should work.

100hrs community service for the little scum rats and £2500 fine for their parents should work.Andyroost

100hrs community service for the little scum rats and £2500 fine for their parents should work.

Score: 22

DAUBHILL85
8:24am Thu 17 Jul 14

Birch -Borstal- :-) and if that don't work behead the little Tw@ts

Birch -Borstal- :-) and if that don't work behead the little Tw@tsDAUBHILL85

Birch -Borstal- :-) and if that don't work behead the little Tw@ts

Score: 17

mr.mark.c
11:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Smeagol wrote…

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

You are a prime example of a do-gooder,

[quote][p][bold]Smeagol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Happynotsad[/bold] wrote:
This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?[/p][/quote]You are a prime example of a do-gooder,mr.mark.c

Smeagol wrote…

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

You are a prime example of a do-gooder,

Score: 19

Chrome1
12:31am Thu 17 Jul 14

Rememberscarborough wrote…

If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...

Unless there is a speed camera involved the police won't have a clue how to tackle this one

[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote:
If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...[/p][/quote]Unless there is a speed camera involved the police won't have a clue how to tackle this oneChrome1

Rememberscarborough wrote…

If the police can't sort this out then they might as well give up and go home. Mind you, if their mums and dads had any decency they would march them round to the nearest police station to save us all the cost of the fuel...

Unless there is a speed camera involved the police won't have a clue how to tackle this one

Score: 12

Best an
7:46am Thu 17 Jul 14

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weeklyBest an

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

Score: 8

Lee3695
8:00am Thu 17 Jul 14

I'm sick of seeing articles like this. The people involved obviously have no social values, which is the responsibility of the parents to install in thier offspring. So yes, the parents are to blame to some degree. Yes these kids don't fear the consequences becasue schools and do-gooders are hell-bent on teaching them their 'rights' but not the responsibilities that go with those 'rights'. There should be stiffer sentancing to act as a deterent as well. Perhaps a 'Hard labour' sentance should be reintroduced. Not 'picking up rubbish in the park 'Community Service' but breaking rocks in Montcliffe Quarry hard labour.

I'm sick of seeing articles like this. The people involved obviously have no social values, which is the responsibility of the parents to install in thier offspring. So yes, the parents are to blame to some degree. Yes these kids don't fear the consequences becasue schools and do-gooders are hell-bent on teaching them their 'rights' but not the responsibilities that go with those 'rights'. There should be stiffer sentancing to act as a deterent as well. Perhaps a 'Hard labour' sentance should be reintroduced. Not 'picking up rubbish in the park 'Community Service' but breaking rocks in Montcliffe Quarry hard labour.Lee3695

I'm sick of seeing articles like this. The people involved obviously have no social values, which is the responsibility of the parents to install in thier offspring. So yes, the parents are to blame to some degree. Yes these kids don't fear the consequences becasue schools and do-gooders are hell-bent on teaching them their 'rights' but not the responsibilities that go with those 'rights'. There should be stiffer sentancing to act as a deterent as well. Perhaps a 'Hard labour' sentance should be reintroduced. Not 'picking up rubbish in the park 'Community Service' but breaking rocks in Montcliffe Quarry hard labour.

Score: 12

itsnotallbad
8:34am Thu 17 Jul 14

How long have yobs worn handbags?

70's and 80's hooligans have bugger all on this new breed of nutters!

How long have yobs worn handbags?
70's and 80's hooligans have bugger all on this new breed of nutters!itsnotallbad

How long have yobs worn handbags?

70's and 80's hooligans have bugger all on this new breed of nutters!

Score: 11

m.nealon
8:47am Thu 17 Jul 14

Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.

Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.m.nealon

Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.

Score: 1

Beyond News Forum
11:54am Thu 17 Jul 14

Best an wrote…

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.

SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.

SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.

So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.

We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.

All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.

We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?

[quote][p][bold]Best an[/bold] wrote:
They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly[/p][/quote]How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.
SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.
SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.
So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.
We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.
All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.
We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?Beyond News Forum

Best an wrote…

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.

SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.

SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.

So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.

We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.

All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.

We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?

Score: -3

thomas222
9:06am Thu 17 Jul 14

m.nealon wrote…

Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.

All the boundrys have changed half of Halliwell is no longer Halliwell its bloody Crompton. Political reasons of course.

[quote][p][bold]m.nealon[/bold] wrote:
Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.[/p][/quote]All the boundrys have changed half of Halliwell is no longer Halliwell its bloody Crompton. Political reasons of course.thomas222

m.nealon wrote…

Cuthbert street to cow lane is in Bolton!!!!! and it's Middle Hulton NOT Morris Green. I was born directly opposite Cuthbert Street. Bolton News reporters never get their districts right. Morris Green is the park area at the top of Morris Green Lane which begins at the traffic lights at Daubhill Station (there used to be a railway station on the corner of st Helens road and Deane church lane which is why it's called Dunhill station). Nowhere near Farnworth.

All the boundrys have changed half of Halliwell is no longer Halliwell its bloody Crompton. Political reasons of course.

Score: -2

IvanCamposHair
11:59am Thu 17 Jul 14

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

And 20 years ago, someone somewhere said the same thing. And 20 years before that.

The world has always been going to hell in a handcart and youths have always been lacking disipline, according to some, but here we are still going.

I wasn't hit as a kid and I know trashing buses is not something you should do.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Happynotsad[/bold] wrote:
This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.[/p][/quote]And 20 years ago, someone somewhere said the same thing. And 20 years before that.
The world has always been going to hell in a handcart and youths have always been lacking disipline, according to some, but here we are still going.
I wasn't hit as a kid and I know trashing buses is not something you should do.IvanCamposHair

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

And 20 years ago, someone somewhere said the same thing. And 20 years before that.

The world has always been going to hell in a handcart and youths have always been lacking disipline, according to some, but here we are still going.

I wasn't hit as a kid and I know trashing buses is not something you should do.

Score: 6

oftbewildered2
1:44pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum wrote…

Best an wrote…

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.

SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.

SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.

So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.

We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.

All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.

We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?

SO have you any suggestions as to how this should be dealt with

[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Best an[/bold] wrote:
They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly[/p][/quote]How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.
SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.
SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.
So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.
We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.
All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.
We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?[/p][/quote]SO have you any suggestions as to how this should be dealt withoftbewildered2

Beyond News Forum wrote…

Best an wrote…

They need to be given hard work to do for at least a year everyday 5 days a week and no pulling out for any reason at all, even if it's breaking bricks. There's no discipline anymore, there needs to be punishment that really hurts them (not physical) from this kind of thing, but as a nation we've be become too soft on them.
Their parents should also be fined and whether on benefits or not, be made to pay, even if it's weekly

How on Earth is this the parents fault. As i say you can be the best parent in the world but the rules go out of the window when some kids leave the house.

SO a parent could give the kids a slap... violence breeds violence.

SO the parents could get a fine... kids don't give two shytes.

So the parents could lock the kids in the house for weeks on end... social services would get involved.

We could stick the kids in jail, we could give them GPRS tags from 10-years old to 18-years old... the answers are actually not very easy to come up with.

All those saying fine parents are not seeing the bigger picture. You fine the parents, the kids suffer more from either abusive parents or a lack of amenities at home, inclusive of food and clothing... this would exaggerate the problem 110% and has been proved time and time again.

We could lock them away as I say, but tell me... what did the Borstals and juvie homes breed in the 1980's?

SO have you any suggestions as to how this should be dealt with

Score: 4

RogerDT
1:49pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Tomorrow' murderers & rapists.

Mum & Dad must be so proud.

Tomorrow' murderers & rapists.
Mum & Dad must be so proud.RogerDT

Tomorrow' murderers & rapists.

Mum & Dad must be so proud.

Score: 11

BWFC1988
2:52pm Thu 17 Jul 14

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'

Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'
Socrates (469–399 B.C.)BWFC1988

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'

Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

Score: 5

RogerDT
2:56pm Thu 17 Jul 14

BWFC1988 wrote…

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'

Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

"And then they will kick the sh1t out of a load of buses"
He was right that Brazilian footballer!

[quote][p][bold]BWFC1988[/bold] wrote:
'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'
Socrates (469–399 B.C.)[/p][/quote]"And then they will kick the sh1t out of a load of buses"
He was right that Brazilian footballer!RogerDT

BWFC1988 wrote…

'The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.'

Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

"And then they will kick the sh1t out of a load of buses"
He was right that Brazilian footballer!

Score: 4

Lancashire always
12:34pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Smeagol wrote…

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

You.
When i was at school the world was in Black and White police really did slap you round the head if you were naughty right up to 16 ( I wasnt slapped ) now you can get prosecuted for hurting the young sweet pea`s feelings` Parents as well as Teachers its gone mad. Parents being threatened Tthe police will be called if they are told to: stay in ` behave ` tidy up ` do the home work !! no wonder half of them are as thick as bricks. There was a need to bring it under control i saw terrible bruising on some of my classmates that should never happen but it has gone way beyond now i am not sure what can be done to reverse the damage of the do gooders.

[quote][p][bold]Smeagol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Happynotsad[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?[/p][/quote]You.
When i was at school the world was in Black and White police really did slap you round the head if you were naughty right up to 16 ( I wasnt slapped ) now you can get prosecuted for hurting the young sweet pea`s feelings` Parents as well as Teachers its gone mad. Parents being threatened Tthe police will be called if they are told to: stay in ` behave ` tidy up ` do the home work !! no wonder half of them are as thick as bricks. There was a need to bring it under control i saw terrible bruising on some of my classmates that should never happen but it has gone way beyond now i am not sure what can be done to reverse the damage of the do gooders.Lancashire always

Smeagol wrote…

Mr Happynotsad wrote…

This is what happens when do gooders put clampers on tough displine in schools and at home so they know they can get away with being anti social. Go back 20 years and kids had respect for elders and other people's property now they don't. They have more given to them then any other generation and don't appreciate anything. It's about time we brought back good old fashioned values and not put up with kids feeling untouchable.

What do you mean by "tough discipline"? If you're talking about hitting, caning etc, then I couldn't agree with you less. That just teaches that aggression, violence and lack of respect is ok. If you're talking about firm parenting that teaches respect for others, property and themselves, then fine ... Though I'm not sure children and young people are any worse now than they were in the past. Who are the "do-gooders?" you are talking about?

You.
When i was at school the world was in Black and White police really did slap you round the head if you were naughty right up to 16 ( I wasnt slapped ) now you can get prosecuted for hurting the young sweet pea`s feelings` Parents as well as Teachers its gone mad. Parents being threatened Tthe police will be called if they are told to: stay in ` behave ` tidy up ` do the home work !! no wonder half of them are as thick as bricks. There was a need to bring it under control i saw terrible bruising on some of my classmates that should never happen but it has gone way beyond now i am not sure what can be done to reverse the damage of the do gooders.

Score: 1

Smeagol
10:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Cor how unpopular was my comment???! :) I don't think I'm a do-gooder, but I don't agree with hitting children. Neither do I think they should get away with bad behaviour. I just think there are ways that work better than hitting.

Cor how unpopular was my comment???! :) I don't think I'm a do-gooder, but I don't agree with hitting children. Neither do I think they should get away with bad behaviour. I just think there are ways that work better than hitting.Smeagol

Cor how unpopular was my comment???! :) I don't think I'm a do-gooder, but I don't agree with hitting children. Neither do I think they should get away with bad behaviour. I just think there are ways that work better than hitting.

Score: 0

Ilovebolton
1:18am Sat 19 Jul 14

And the summer fun has just begun for the kids, they need entertainment and if councils cant entertain these kids with cheap youth clubs and other free activities what do you expect from parents who are probably on benefits and drugs and telling kids go out and enjoy. This weather is gonna see kids on streets with cider and the parks are gonna be late evening pubs for them... I guess these are the type of people BNP and UKIP should be proud of. Coz they sure don't look asian.lol

And the summer fun has just begun for the kids, they need entertainment and if councils cant entertain these kids with cheap youth clubs and other free activities what do you expect from parents who are probably on benefits and drugs and telling kids go out and enjoy. This weather is gonna see kids on streets with cider and the parks are gonna be late evening pubs for them... I guess these are the type of people BNP and UKIP should be proud of. Coz they sure don't look asian.lolIlovebolton

And the summer fun has just begun for the kids, they need entertainment and if councils cant entertain these kids with cheap youth clubs and other free activities what do you expect from parents who are probably on benefits and drugs and telling kids go out and enjoy. This weather is gonna see kids on streets with cider and the parks are gonna be late evening pubs for them... I guess these are the type of people BNP and UKIP should be proud of. Coz they sure don't look asian.lol

Score: 0

JustBecause
8:15am Fri 25 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 wrote…

Birch -Borstal- :-) and if that don't work behead the little Tw@ts

With comments like that let's hope to god you don't breed you idiot.

[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote:
Birch -Borstal- :-) and if that don't work behead the little Tw@ts[/p][/quote]With comments like that let's hope to god you don't breed you idiot.JustBecause

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