No, it isn't the oddity thread. That also isn't odd, it's just ghetto.

RippyPartsDept

06-09-11, 06:11 PM

looks like the ZR-1 nameplate was modded so it says ZP-1

P for Pickup?

Stingroo

06-09-11, 06:16 PM

That'd be awesome.

Night Wolf

06-09-11, 09:18 PM

It's the El Corvetto!

Neat. I know C4 often gets picked on the most - why is that? Chepest/most common? Bridges the gap between "classic" and "modern" but isn't really either of them? From an era when engines weren't putting out much power? All of the above? I'd like to hear others opinions.

Rodya234

06-09-11, 09:24 PM

I think the 'vette is pretty neat. Closest thing you could get to a ute in this country!

cadillac kevin

06-09-11, 09:35 PM

its a ute-ette!!!!

Stingroo

06-09-11, 09:50 PM

It's the El Corvetto!

Neat. I know C4 often gets picked on the most - why is that? Chepest/most common? Bridges the gap between "classic" and "modern" but isn't really either of them? From an era when engines weren't putting out much power? All of the above? I'd like to hear others opinions.

Mostly it's the so-so engines (LT5 excluded) terrible early transmissions (4+3 is a joke), terribly bad interior (yes, even I think it's bad - that says a lot), and the fact that they're somewhat common, so they're cheap (Grand Sport and ZR1 excluded). I sort of have a soft spot for them, though... I think I could own one someday on the cheap and enjoy it as a DD. It'd be cool enough and fast enough for me, and not quite old enough or rare enough that I'd worry about parts or putting miles on it.

Destroyer

06-09-11, 10:48 PM

The ZR1 was not crap.

The rest were though. :(I don't agree with that. This was a good generation for Corvettes but it seems it's the generation everyone will hate on because it falls between the classics and the new. Sure the interior was cheap (which generation wasn't again?) but besides that resounding GM fault found in most of it's lineup...........what was so bad about this gen 'Vette?:hmm:

Stingroo

06-09-11, 10:53 PM

See above.

Don't get me wrong, I actually like the exterior styling (remember, this is SSR and Aztek guy). I think they just got the car wrong in the beginning, and by the time they got it "right" it wasn't quite awesome enough to be proud of. It also suffers from poor timing and a gimmicky digital gauge cluster that hasn't aged well at all.

Aron9000

06-10-11, 02:41 AM

I don't agree with that. This was a good generation for Corvettes but it seems it's the generation everyone will hate on because it falls between the classics and the new. Sure the interior was cheap (which generation wasn't again?) but besides that resounding GM fault found in most of it's lineup...........what was so bad about this gen 'Vette?:hmm:

I thought the interior in my 4th gen Camaros was light years ahead of the C4 in terms of quality and layout. Even 3rd gen fbodys were better IMO, at least you could get real gauges in those back in the 80's. Combined with the fact that they rattled/squeaked off the showroom floor, they just felt like a piece of poorly assembled junk.

The suspension design was ingenious though, combined with the light weight make them good track toys, along with the easy to hop up or swap out 350 chevy. I'd own one for a track toy, but for a cruiser or daily driver they're junk IMO.

Destroyer

06-10-11, 09:27 AM

I thought the interior in my 4th gen Camaros was light years ahead of the C4 in terms of quality and layout. Even 3rd gen fbodys were better IMO, at least you could get real gauges in those back in the 80's. Combined with the fact that they rattled/squeaked off the showroom floor, they just felt like a piece of poorly assembled junk.

The suspension design was ingenious though, combined with the light weight make them good track toys, along with the easy to hop up or swap out 350 chevy. I'd own one for a track toy, but for a cruiser or daily driver they're junk IMO.
I had all the cars you speak of and I agree that the 4rth gen Camaro was better than the early C4 Corvette's as far as layout and quality goes but the '91-'96 weren't that far off. As a whole, they all were pretty bad. The 4rth gen f-body cars were definitely better buys than the Corvettes, had a better instrument cluster, had room for 4 and 9/10's the performance.

Night Wolf

06-10-11, 09:37 AM

the interior is one of the things I like - I like the digital stuff. The early interior looked like trash but had the neater digital gauges. The later interior looked much better but lost a lot of the digital goodies - still though, I think it was neat with the analog each and digital speedo - something I like about the newest generation Civic too. Would I own one? Probably not, because for what I would enjoy the car for, I get my kicks out of the much smaller and more nimble old BMW's but still, I like them. I think the early models didn't look that good with the typical 80s GM trim and stuff, but the later years? They really cleaned them up nice IMO. I'd take a late model C4 over an early model C5.

Stingroo

06-10-11, 09:42 AM

I wouldn't, only because of the massive engine improvement. OptiSpark can go to hell where it belongs. :lol:

OffThaHorseCEO

06-10-11, 11:49 AM

i mentioned this in another post. ive never really appreciated corvettes. you could say i almost disliked them. they fell into that category where they are so expensive that you can build a better/faster car with what you'll spend on a corvette.

oddly enough, that was before i "drove" a corvette c6.r on forza motorsport 2. i loved the engine sound and the overall package, but wasnt convinced since it was 1) a video game, and 2) a purpose built race car. next i built a C4 GS in forza motorsport 3, i lost my save file swapping harddrives and the C4 GS was the only car i remembered in detail and the first thing i bought/built when i started my game again. Ive been lookin at just about everything corvette related lately. i stopped at a dealership when the C6 GS models had just arrived, and was amazed that the rear tires are as wide as from my elbow to my fingertips haha.
unfortunately, i still havent had the "pleasure" of driving a real corvette, but i can say that i have definitely grown to appreciate them much much more, even if its based on artificial knowledge of them.
my favorite is currently the least sporty of all, the C1

C5 Z06 is gorgeous. I love the FRC design. That's my favorite Corvette, I think. I mean, I love the C6 Z06 too but that's more for the motor. I think the C5Z is more attractive to look at.

Destroyer

06-10-11, 10:25 PM

the interior is one of the things I like - I like the digital stuff. The early interior looked like trash but had the neater digital gauges. The later interior looked much better but lost a lot of the digital goodies - still though, I think it was neat with the analog each and digital speedo - something I like about the newest generation Civic too. Would I own one? Probably not, because for what I would enjoy the car for, I get my kicks out of the much smaller and more nimble old BMW's but still, I like them. I think the early models didn't look that good with the typical 80s GM trim and stuff, but the later years? They really cleaned them up nice IMO. I'd take a late model C4 over an early model C5.I didn't like the digital stuff but it's a simple fix with aftermarket gauges. I like the clean look of the 84-90 models every bit as much (if not a slight bit more) than the '91-96.

I~LUV~Caddys8792

06-10-11, 11:59 PM

What I never liked about the C4 (good post Rick).....

Terribly, terribly cramped interior
Bland styling (the 63-67 and 68-72's were so wild/out there and beautiful)
Lousy build quality, especially for something that was so expensive.
Insufferably stiff ride on the early C4's (stiffest corvette ride ever)
So-so performance by today's standards

OffThaHorseCEO

06-11-11, 12:20 AM

What I never liked about the C4 (good post Rick).....

Terribly, terribly cramped interior
Bland styling (the 63-67 and 68-72's were so wild/out there and beautiful)
Lousy build quality, especially for something that was so expensive.
Insufferably stiff ride on the early C4's (stiffest corvette ride ever)
So-so performance by today's standards

styling wise that what i dont like about the C5. the C6 is BOLD...brash, sharp curvaceous. the C4s to me were sleek and had shark-like qualities to them still (the c6s too). the C5 looked like it was trying not to scare anyone off. Ive yet to see a truly aggressive looking C5. the C6 on the other hand ranges from bold to just straight mean. depending on what rpo package you order you get massive hood bulges, fender flares wide bodies etc etc.

I~LUV~Caddys8792

06-11-11, 12:42 AM

It's funny, for as much as I find the C4's to be bland and mediocre (in terms of Corvettes), I adore the LT5. In terms of mechanical coolness and uniqueness, it's the coolest engine ever put into a Corvette. I agree with you on the C5...it's nice looking, but it's "quiet" and "shy" compared to the C2/C3 and C6.

ThumperPup

06-11-11, 01:51 AM

ok im sorry but that is just messed up
i know yall like this but i think for someone to do that to a corvette is just like someone doing this to a corvette you just don't mess with the vet im sorry but its messed up