This is interesting as Sensabaugh has been the Cowboys only decent safety the last 3-4 years. I can't think of anyone on their roster who will take his place. They have Church perhaps, but he blew out his achilles. He isn't a world beater but would be a roster upgrade for the Lions.

Chiefs tag Brandon Albert. Literally impossible for them to draft Joeckel now since they already have a top 3 right tackle and it'll change all mock drafts. I think they trade down. I say Oakland throws a 2nd and 3rd at them to get he #1 pick.

It doesn't make it impossible. Albert has said he doesn't want to move to guard, but I'm sure that's only because he wants LT money. Once he's signed to a long term deal he'll fall right into what ever position they ask him to play. He played guard for them last season when they had Gaither. It's still possible they go another direction, but it's not remotely a lock they pass on a LT just because they have Albert who is not even a great LT. It's also very easy with their cap space to sit on Albert and groom Joeckel this year while they try to trade Albert or let him walk next year.

Cowboys released Gerald Sensabaugh, does anyone know if he's a fit with the Lions?

I HATE the cowboys and avoid their games as much as possible, so never had a chance to watch him playing.

He's better than anyone we've got on the roster. Personally, I'd rather have the cheaper of he and Charles Rogers. A lot of people think that Charles is going to come with a high price-tag, but I disagree. He's washed up and everyone knows it, but he'd still be a great character guy, mentor, leader, and stop-gap for us here.

Charles Rogers is a swear word around these parts. LOL.

March 4th, 2013, 6:32 pm

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Re: Off-Season Moves

BillySims wrote:

wjb21ndtown wrote:

DayDreamer wrote:

Cowboys released Gerald Sensabaugh, does anyone know if he's a fit with the Lions?

I HATE the cowboys and avoid their games as much as possible, so never had a chance to watch him playing.

He's better than anyone we've got on the roster. Personally, I'd rather have the cheaper of he and Charles Rogers. A lot of people think that Charles is going to come with a high price-tag, but I disagree. He's washed up and everyone knows it, but he'd still be a great character guy, mentor, leader, and stop-gap for us here.

Charles Rogers is a swear word around these parts. LOL.

Ha... Everyone is crazy today...

Charles Woodson, obviously.

March 4th, 2013, 7:04 pm

Pablo

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Re: Off-Season Moves

freep wrote:

Lions sign punter Blake Clingan after workout

Blake Clingan got lost in the shuffle of the NFL lockout after his senior season at Central Florida, but the big-footed punter made the most of his tryout with the Detroit Lions today

The Lions signed Clingan after a workout for specialists at their Allen Park practice facility.

Clingan hasn’t punted since 2010, when he averaged 41.8 yards per punt at UCF. He was one of about a half-dozen punters who took part in the workout, which also included kickers and long snappers.

The Lions tied for 30th in the NFL in net punting average last year, and special teams have been a sore spot for most of the past two seasons.

They used six different punters over the last two years, including kicker Jason Hanson as a fill in. Nick Harris, who finished last season with the team, is an unrestricted free agent and not expected back.

Hanson still hasn’t decided whether he’ll return for a 22nd NFL season, and long snapper Don Muhlbach, a Pro Bowler last year, is a 31-year-old free agent.

Lions coach Jim Schwartz said last month he wasn’t opposed to using a draft pick on a punter "if he's good." The Lions met with several candidates at the NFL combine, including Ball State’s Scott Kovanda (Novi Detroit Catholic Central), Arizona State’s Josh Hubner and LSU’s Brad Wing.

Blake Clingan got lost in the shuffle of the NFL lockout after his senior season at Central Florida, but the big-footed punter made the most of his tryout with the Detroit Lions today

The Lions signed Clingan after a workout for specialists at their Allen Park practice facility.

Clingan hasn’t punted since 2010, when he averaged 41.8 yards per punt at UCF. He was one of about a half-dozen punters who took part in the workout, which also included kickers and long snappers.

The Lions tied for 30th in the NFL in net punting average last year, and special teams have been a sore spot for most of the past two seasons.

They used six different punters over the last two years, including kicker Jason Hanson as a fill in. Nick Harris, who finished last season with the team, is an unrestricted free agent and not expected back.

Hanson still hasn’t decided whether he’ll return for a 22nd NFL season, and long snapper Don Muhlbach, a Pro Bowler last year, is a 31-year-old free agent.

Lions coach Jim Schwartz said last month he wasn’t opposed to using a draft pick on a punter "if he's good." The Lions met with several candidates at the NFL combine, including Ball State’s Scott Kovanda (Novi Detroit Catholic Central), Arizona State’s Josh Hubner and LSU’s Brad Wing.

I wonder if he can handle kickoffs too... I'd love it if he could (and I'm guessing he can, I really don't think the Lions would have signed him otherwise). We haven't had a good punter since Eddie Murray.

March 5th, 2013, 3:44 pm

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Re: Off-Season Moves

Umm, Murray was an All-Pro kicker, not a punter. I think he had less than half a dozen punts in like 20 years

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March 5th, 2013, 5:19 pm

wjb21ndtown

Re: Off-Season Moves

conversion02 wrote:

Umm, Murray was an All-Pro kicker, not a punter. I think he had less than half a dozen punts in like 20 years

Who was the Punter in the late 80s, early 90s? (that's when I started watching Lions football)... That's who I'm referring to. We haven't had a good punter since around '93, to be more accurate.

March 5th, 2013, 5:23 pm

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Re: Off-Season Moves

I think it was Arnold.

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March 5th, 2013, 6:26 pm

Pablo

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Re: Off-Season Moves

conversion02 wrote:

I think it was Arnold.

Yes, it was Jim Arnold. When I was a bit younger I would field his punts in practice back when they held them at Oakland University.

Yes, it was Jim Arnold. When I was a bit younger I would field his punts in practice back when they held them at Oakland University.

That's awesome Pablo. I liked it better when our athletes were more accessible. I think it's better for both them and the fans. I think it helps keep them grounded, and it's an amazing fan experience. I don't think the Allen Park facility was a good investment. It certainly hasn't helped the professionalism of the team.

March 5th, 2013, 7:13 pm

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Re: Off-Season Moves

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Ian Rapoport tweets that the Lions are “strongly” considering switching Riley Reiff from tackle to guard this next season.Detroit drafted Reiff with the No. 23 overall pick in last year’s draft. In his rookie season, Reiff actually graded out above average offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus’ ratings.Reiff was especially effective as a run-blocker and given his short arms, he may be better suited to be an interior offensive lineman. This concern was brought up during the draft process last year.The Lions obviously didn’t plan to move him inside as the consensus top rated guard in the 2012 draft class was David DeCastro, who was taken one pick after Detroit selected Reiff.This could be an indication that they’re prepared to either re-sign RT Gosder Cherilus or target another option in free agency. Detroit could always go with the best available player at No. 5 overall this year and there’s a good chance that one of Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher will be available to them.

March 5th, 2013, 8:55 pm

wjb21ndtown

Re: Off-Season Moves

kdsberman wrote:

Quote:

Ian Rapoport tweets that the Lions are “strongly” considering switching Riley Reiff from tackle to guard this next season.Detroit drafted Reiff with the No. 23 overall pick in last year’s draft. In his rookie season, Reiff actually graded out above average offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus’ ratings.Reiff was especially effective as a run-blocker and given his short arms, he may be better suited to be an interior offensive lineman. This concern was brought up during the draft process last year.The Lions obviously didn’t plan to move him inside as the consensus top rated guard in the 2012 draft class was David DeCastro, who was taken one pick after Detroit selected Reiff.This could be an indication that they’re prepared to either re-sign RT Gosder Cherilus or target another option in free agency. Detroit could always go with the best available player at No. 5 overall this year and there’s a good chance that one of Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher will be available to them.

I hope we don't bring Gos back. He has all of the physical ability in the world to play RT, but he's a mental midget and lacks discipline. I'd rather go with whomever plays out best of Reiff, Fox and Hilliard.

March 5th, 2013, 9:08 pm

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Re: Off-Season Moves

wjb21ndtown wrote:

kdsberman wrote:

Quote:

Ian Rapoport tweets that the Lions are “strongly” considering switching Riley Reiff from tackle to guard this next season.Detroit drafted Reiff with the No. 23 overall pick in last year’s draft. In his rookie season, Reiff actually graded out above average offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus’ ratings.Reiff was especially effective as a run-blocker and given his short arms, he may be better suited to be an interior offensive lineman. This concern was brought up during the draft process last year.The Lions obviously didn’t plan to move him inside as the consensus top rated guard in the 2012 draft class was David DeCastro, who was taken one pick after Detroit selected Reiff.This could be an indication that they’re prepared to either re-sign RT Gosder Cherilus or target another option in free agency. Detroit could always go with the best available player at No. 5 overall this year and there’s a good chance that one of Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher will be available to them.

I hope we don't bring Gos back. He has all of the physical ability in the world to play RT, but he's a mental midget and lacks discipline. I'd rather go with whomever plays out best of Reiff, Fox and Hilliard.

Ian Rapoport tweets that the Lions are “strongly” considering switching Riley Reiff from tackle to guard this next season.Detroit drafted Reiff with the No. 23 overall pick in last year’s draft. In his rookie season, Reiff actually graded out above average offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus’ ratings.Reiff was especially effective as a run-blocker and given his short arms, he may be better suited to be an interior offensive lineman. This concern was brought up during the draft process last year.The Lions obviously didn’t plan to move him inside as the consensus top rated guard in the 2012 draft class was David DeCastro, who was taken one pick after Detroit selected Reiff.This could be an indication that they’re prepared to either re-sign RT Gosder Cherilus or target another option in free agency. Detroit could always go with the best available player at No. 5 overall this year and there’s a good chance that one of Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher will be available to them.

I hope we don't bring Gos back. He has all of the physical ability in the world to play RT, but he's a mental midget and lacks discipline. I'd rather go with whomever plays out best of Reiff, Fox and Hilliard.

Me too. And it would be cheaper than re-signing Goz.

I'd be worried about the longevity of Goz's knee, there was all those rumors about him having gotten or getting ready to get the German knee regeneration done. His people were really fast to try and deflect the talk and Goz made a "it's none of your business" comment to the media. When Kobe first got the procedure done I remember reading that even though it helps in the short term it begins to degrade the knee very quickly after a couple years or at least that was a possible result being presented by critics of it.