"Even when bolstered by modern genetics, evolutionary theory does not explain why life emerged on Earth more than 3 billion years ago, or whether life was highly probable, even inevitable, or a once in a universe fluke."

It pisses me the hell off when people bring this up. Evolutionary theory does not even attempt to explain the origins of life. That is not why the theory was developed. Its like saying that you don't believe in gravity because it doesn't explain how pop-rocks work.

Life did not start from non life to become a singe celled creature then evolve to multi celled then evolved into simpler animals and plants then evolve into land animals and plants then evolve into dinosaurs then evolve into mammals which then evolved into ape which then evolved into us. That is evolution theory in a nutshell. Evolutionists say there are many questions to be answered for the in between steps but that is 10 thousand foot picture.

Bullcrap. Not one single step of that chain can be proven in any way shape or form. Every attempt to test or verify or reproduce any part of that chain of events has resulted the only way it can. In abject failure. It didnt happen people. Stop trying to convince us or intimidate or indoctrinate others into believing that it did. It didnt happen, it cannot happen and that is just it. Sorry to burst your bubble.

I'll bet you don't travel on trains that go faster than 25MPH because you're afraid of asphyxiation, don't you?

vactech:Even children instinctively know that Darwin's theory of big bang evolution does not account for our unintentional creation in the "magical puddle of mud" Darwin proposed.

I always find it amazing that even from a very young age kids KNOW that God exists, exists in a state of absolute isness. Beyond time, beyond space. God creates infinite reality, finite reality. He is beyond both. Beyond limitation.

"Darwin's theory of big bang evolution", eh?

Is that anything like Einstein's theory of punctuated equilibrium Relativity?

vactech:I always find it amazing that even from a very young age kids KNOW that God exists, exists in a state of absolute isness. Beyond time, beyond space. God creates infinite reality, finite reality. He is beyond both. Beyond limitation.

Even from a young age kids KNOW santa claus exists, beyond time beyond space, beyond limitation to deliver presents to themThen we grow up and realize that was just a social construct designed to deceive us.

Even children instinctively know that Darwin's theory of big bang evolution does not account for our unintentional creation in the "magical puddle of mud" Darwin proposed.

I always find it amazing that even from a very young age kids KNOW that God exists, exists in a state of absolute isness. Beyond time, beyond space. God creates infinite reality, finite reality. He is beyond both. Beyond limitation.

Glockenspiel Hero:As far as what to say, I had a nice discussion back when I taught a summer chemistry course at a local CC in Lynchburg VA. A bunch of my students were from the Falwell-based community, but when discussing thermodynamics I went through the "evolution is impossible because of entropy" argument in some detail and showed exactly why it's not only wrong, but that it's obvious why it is and that anyone using the argument is ignorant. I even pointed to the page where some of the anti-evolution folks tell folks *not* to use that argument because it's so easily refuted, then asked them to think carefully the next time they heard it.

Had a nice discussion with one of them after class about it. He was a typical unsophisticated ID type and so I got to go into how Intelligent Design is a god of the gaps argument and why this is a *terrible* place for theists to work from- after all, every time you manage to figure out something that you were told God did you diminish God a little bit. There's a good reason we don't worship the god of thunder anymore.

How dare you not worship Thor, God of Thunder. He will strike you down with his hammer like he does the frost giants.