Scoundrels, compared to his other works, is on a smaller scale, so I felt like I could identify the pieces of the puzzle better, and for a brief moment, get a glimpse into his methodology. It's meta Zahn. Also, if you're worried about continuity, don't._________________Observation: Life would be cooler if everyone spoke like HK-47.

Just finished Winner Lose All the eNovella, and I really liked it! The introduction to the new characters has me ready to roll on to the book. I haven't read the short in the new Insiders yet but I hear good things._________________Mara: "Not many people Dare to hug me"
Lando: "That leaves more of you for me then!"

"Sure I can't move a rock with my mind, but, boy can I make that rock think its been moved."

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:13 pm

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1337JediMaster

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Amazon actually sent a new book out on time!!! Copy just came in, time to get reading. Has anyone els picked it up yet? No not you lucky media types all finished with it and all, us norms?!_________________Mara: "Not many people Dare to hug me"
Lando: "That leaves more of you for me then!"

"Sure I can't move a rock with my mind, but, boy can I make that rock think its been moved."

Greetings from your fellow normie! Reading it now . This is the first Zahn book I've read since the Thrawn duology, when I entered the fandom. I noted Zahn as a good writer, but nothing really caught me. I don't know if it's the story or the setting, but I'm quite liking it already._________________I am a Star Wars fan. That doesn't mean that I hate or love Jar Jar. That doesn't mean I hate or love Lucas, or agree or disagree 100% with him. That doesn't mean I prefer the PT over the OT, or vice versa. That doesn't mean I hate the EU, or even love all of it (or even read all of it). These are not prerequisites. Being a man is not a prerequisite. Being a geek is not a prerequisite. The only prerequisite is that I love something about Star Wars. I am a Star Wars fan.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:59 pm

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DancelittleewokEUC Staff

Joined: 15 Sep 2010Posts: 1177Location: Kansas

No one has posted about the Twist. SAY WHAT?_________________Observation: Life would be cooler if everyone spoke like HK-47.

It's too good to spoil _________________
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:25 am

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WerehunterKnight

Joined: 08 Apr 2011Posts: 362

Honestly, I hated the twist. I might notice something when I re-read the book in a few years, but I don't think there was anything that hinted at that twist. Sure it was clear he was hiding something, but not like that. But since it only affected the very end, it was no where close to being enough to ruin the book for me.

Overall I found the book to be great and would love to see more of the characters, especially the twins.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:31 am

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Darth SkuldrenModerator

Joined: 04 Feb 2008Posts: 6658Location: Missouri

Really? You didn't like the twist? That was my favorite part of the whole book. _________________
"I believe toys resonate with us as humans, we can hold them them, it's tactile, real! They are totems for our extended beliefs and imaginations. A fetish for ideas that hold as much interest and passion as old religious relics for some. We display them in our homes. They show who we are. They are signals for similar thinking people. A way we connect with each other...and I guess thats why I do toys. That connection." -Ashley Wood

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:15 pm

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WerehunterKnight

Joined: 08 Apr 2011Posts: 362

For a twist to be good, in my opinion, it has to change how the rest of the book reads. However if they left out that scene at the end, the rest of the book would read the exact same. I won't go into more details about why I disliked it because of spoilers, but the twist did nothing for the book as whole.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:41 pm

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CerrineaMaster

Joined: 09 Jun 2009Posts: 1491

Well, I liked the twist. I loled when I read it, and it made me see everything the character did in a different light._________________Roqoo Depot co-founder.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:17 am

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DancelittleewokEUC Staff

Joined: 15 Sep 2010Posts: 1177Location: Kansas

Werehunter wrote:

For a twist to be good, in my opinion, it has to change how the rest of the book reads. However if they left out that scene at the end, the rest of the book would read the exact same. I won't go into more details about why I disliked it because of spoilers, but the twist did nothing for the book as whole.

If you'd to discuss it more, please use the spoiler tags.

I'm a Zahn fangirl, and this wasn't my favorite book. I feel like Zahn, at the cost of his own storytelling, has been stuck in this time period far too long to the point where he's catering to himself. He can do so much more. In Outbound Flight, he went outside his comfort zone, into the Clone Wars, and showed us a fresh faced Thrawn. All the things I love about Zahn's writing are in Scoundrels - but it's getting stale._________________Observation: Life would be cooler if everyone spoke like HK-47.

I just finished and I loved the twist. But probably my favorite part was

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When the safe (essentially a giant boulder) is rolling around the grounds and Han Solo is running away from it....with a whip!

_________________"But it was so artistically done."

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:47 pm

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CerrineaMaster

Joined: 09 Jun 2009Posts: 1491

GrandMaster wrote:

I just finished and I loved the twist. But probably my favorite part was

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When the safe (essentially a giant boulder) is rolling around the grounds and Han Solo is running away from it....with a whip!

Wasn't that great?

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And I totally did not see that's how Zerba and Kell would get out. I so loled.

I really didn't see anything coming in this book. Every surprise was a genuine surprise._________________"But it was so artistically done."

“No. I am Ganner. This threshold is mine. I claim it for my own. Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don’t give a damn. None shall pass.”

"Shaken, not stirred, will get you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth. The reason you stir it with a special spoon is so not to chip the ice. James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it."

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WerehunterKnight

Joined: 08 Apr 2011Posts: 362

GrandMaster wrote:

I just finished and I loved the twist. But probably my favorite part was

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When the safe (essentially a giant boulder) is rolling around the grounds and Han Solo is running away from it....with a whip!

That was great. Actually, I think pretty much the entire final heist was very well done. Except for

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when they switched the twins. They really should have realized that wouldn't end all that great. I'm actually shocked both twins bad it out of alive, would have preferred one of them dying despite liking the pair