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Promise Kept

From your post, Steve, and from what I’ve often read here on the PD, political handicapping is all about determining just how false and duplicitous a Reagan-lite Republican can be, in hopes that supporting and voting for them, will against all history and odds, result in something meagerly better than what “those OTHER guys” would do if they have more power than “us”.

If I’ve misread y’all, how so, and by how much?

Promise Kept

I watched this debate when it was live, as I was supporting Debra Medina in her attempt to run against Perry for Governor, just a year and a half ago.

This is the whole hour long event, but if you want to study Perry’s demeanor in campaign mode, and watch him slither under some good questions then check this out when you can. Texans held his feet to the fire, and he had to squirm some.

I have been wondering when Medina would surface on Perry? Has she? I am just amazed that some Tea Party friends of mine are willing to support him. That is like getting in line for Jim Jones’ famous kool-aid elixer to me. I do not begin to understand it.

One of my favorites is: “#7 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.”

Medina challenged Perry on that during the debate posted above. All that snake could say in reply was that the Republican party was his home just like it was for Reagan, blah, blah, without accounting for why he would make such a huge departure from such an entrenched position, high in the Texas Democrat party, to become the maverick Republican he now pretends to be.

Whodat

Wow! Change your name from “Promise Kept” to “Bob Dropped”. Keep it coming. I love it when you talk like that.

Whodat

Oooops. Make that BOMB DROPPED!

Promise Kept

You’d think that facts like that and the rest listed in the article above would be explosive enough to harm Perry’s chances nationally, but it’s the Texas GOP who have effectively defused those info-bombs.

Perry served as a Democrat in the Texas State House of Reps from 1984-89 when he switched parties. You have to wonder if that switch would have happened if Al Gore had won, eh?

Steve Feinstein

The 2012 election should be framed by the Repubs–regardless of nominee–as a referendum on Obama’s performance, especially the economy.

Remember also, that there is a very good chance that the Repubs will take back the Senate in 2012 as well.

One hopes they learned their lessons from 2006 and realize what a great opportunity they squandered 6 -8 years ago to pass meaningful legislation, deal with entitlements, seal the border, etc.

These are the issues that matter to Mr and Mrs Mushy Middle: Lower their taxes. Get them back to work. Reduce illegal immigration. Get spending and deficits under control. Help create an environment where their houses can sell again. Get rid of uncertainty, onerous regulations, and runaway PC-ism.

R-R-R can do this. But we need the R in the WH. I’ll support whoever runs, even if they’re not ‘perfect.’

‘Perfect’ is for 2020, not for 2012.

JE

If you believe traditional republican form, it is mitt’s turn. If you believe bilderberg conspiracies, perry has been chosen. Either way you will vote for one of them as the ‘lesser of 2 evils’ after they win the primary.

Promise Kept

Romney or Perry, hmmm?
Wouldn’t that choice be more like “the lesser of two Elvis'”? Except Elvis was a servant to lesser evils than either of these two.

Alaina

So then what’s the logical thing to do if one of them wins the primaries? Vote for Obama? Not vote at all?

Once I figure out who my horse is, I’ll do everything I can to help them get the nomination. In the meantime, I’m going to do everything I can to make sure Mitt and Perry aren’t nominated. However, if they are, I don’t know that I have a choice other than to vote AGAINST Obama in the general election.

JE

That is ultimately the question, alaina. Not sure there is a logical thing to do at that point…emigration to new zealand is looking more appealing all the time. LOL.

Alaina

I just hope that people look under hood before they buy it… If they do, they’ll find rusted old parts from a Ford Pinto.

Promise Kept

But Whodat, Alaina, and Brian, “Bob Haus, a Republican political strategist in Iowa who helped Mr. Thompson in 2008″, said of Perry:

“He’s very comfortable in his own skin,”. “He never tries to be someone he’s not.”

Shouldn’t you feel better now?

Alaina

I’d agree with that. Like I said before, he’s either a crook or an idiot.

Promise Kept

I was referring to Haus’ comments as coming from, “a Republican political strategist in Iowa who helped Mr. Thompson in 2008″. Thompson looked good to a lot of conservative folks, but quickly fell aside.

Let’s hope his help does the same for Perry.

Whodat

Your point is well taken and I got it. Did I hear that some Newtie nerds were headed toward Perry, as well? Wonder what President Guliani’s (whatever)campaign manager thinks of Rick Perry?

http://www.politicalderby.com/ Jason Wright, Editor

Whodat, you are in RARE FORM lately!

Whodat

Why, thanks, boss! Truth is, I am still in Chile on business and alone in my hotel most nights with my laptop and no wife yelling at me to get off PD and do something “constructive”. Next week, its back to reality… My creativity will have to work around Lady Macbeth and her utterances (“A sorry sight”, “Infirm of purpose” and, her favorite, “Screw your courage to the sticking place”…

Whodat

Where are the fiscal
conservatives on Perry?
Why arn’t Tea-baggers
howling bout his big spending?
Since he’s been gov, Texas’
budget is up 50% (fifty)!!!
He is worse than “W” for
state spending unending!

Where are the anti-Trans-
Texas-Corridor faithful?
Have they forgotten L’il
Ricky’s big land grab try?
Have they forgotten the
foreign owned toll roads?
And, all the boondogglin’,
dealin’ with pals by this guy?

Holy cow, the term “RINO”,
does not begin to tell
How bad our boy Rick is
with our bucks and state!
Surely, those who have
fought against his waste,
fraud and abuse will get
a blog, a voice and elucidat!!!

Alaina

I’ve been posting a list of reasons not to vote for him on every online article that mentions him this morning.

JE

There are no good options, this is true
But “lowering standards” is what republicans do,
The party will play the ‘primary’ game
and we will get 4 more years of the same.
Soon you will praise Perry in rhyming sentences,
because, quoth Brian “elections have consequences”.

Brian H

Most glorious post, JE. You are correct. Elections do have consequences.

JE

Thought you would appreciate that brian…see, some of us really do listen in spite of how much me way disagree.