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Laura Weinstein details the nature of her online exchanges with Irish fascists.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that fascists don't like to be called fascists. (Apologies to Jane Austen.)

As a scholar of Irish history and politics, I never intended for any of my research and writing to be personal. I’ve published academic articles on the Armagh dirty protest and sexual assault in the journal Eire-Ireland. Although I write from a feminist perspective, the peer-review process has deemed my work to be solid, accurate interpretations of the evidence. And it should be, for all of the years I’ve spent studying Ireland: I hold an MA in Irish Politics from Queen’s University of Belfast, and a Ph.D. in Irish History from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

So imagine my shock when, in response to what I believed to have been a banal tweet about my current research, Sputnik crashed down on my head in the form of hundreds — nay, thousands — of harassing, belligerent, anti-Semitic remarks from Irish people who think I have no right to comment — and no real knowledge of Ireland because I am not, myself, Irish. And I don’t pretend to be; my Twitter handle @Irish_Dr_Laura refers to my degree, not my ethnicity. Their abuse reached the feeds of American bigots, and all of a sudden, my life became about reporting racially offensive attacks on Twitter. I have had to block 213 people (and counting) for sending me hateful tweets over the course of just four days.

Here’s my original statement:

Yes, I made a joke about Gemma O’Doherty and Justin Barrett, but these figures are so preposterous that they’re the butt of many jokes on Twitter. It seems that fascists don’t like to be called fascists. And while I agree that the term is used loosely a lot of the time, these people and their followers are fascists, which I will demonstrate here (and in more detail in a later paper, which will chronicle right-wing nationalism in Ireland).

Gemma O’Doherty was once a respected investigative journalist, but she has become an Irish national joke in most circles. She has founded a political party called Anti-Corruption Ireland (ACI), and she uses her platform to rant about Muslims, the danger of 5G (which, in her words, will make the cancer rate “one-in-one” — i.e., 100% of people will have cancer), the “hoax” of climate change, and the allegedly made-up story about the dead babies at the Tuam mother-and-baby home. YouTube banned Gemma for making videos that violated the site’s rules, so she has taken to uploading her videos on her personal website. She also stages protests outside of Google’s Dublin office in the name of “free speech.”

Justin Barrett has a much longer and more sordid history as a right-wing bully. In the 1990s and early 2000s, he was a leader of Youth Defence, a group dedicated in large part to preventing abortion from being legalised in Ireland (he lost that battle in 2018). He was a vocal supporter of the 2004 Citizenship Referendum, which took away birthright citizenship for people born in Ireland. He is also a known associate of the openly fascist Italian group Forza Nueva. Today, Barrett is the head of the Irish National Party, a fascist party dedicated to — they may as well say it this way — making Ireland great again.

Throughout my diligent study of Irish history, “nationalism” has traditionally implied a desire to let the people of Ireland govern themselves and enjoy Gaelic culture (hence the GAA and Abbey Theatre, for examples). Nationalists and Republicans want the entire island of Ireland to be a single country, free from British rule. This strand of nationalism has a lengthy history that need not be delineated here in any great detail, so a few illustrative examples will have to suffice: the United Irishmen rebellion of 1798 (“the year of the French”); Robert Emmet’s rebellion a few years later; Daniel O’Connell’s repeal movement; Parnell’s more moderate Home Rule campaign; and of course the famous Easter Rising and War for Independence of the Twentieth Century. The paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland today and during the Troubles claimed to be carrying that torch.

This brand of nationalism was largely anti-imperialist and dedicated to the principles of freedom and equality. See, for example, Theobald Wolfe Tone’s famous stance on uniting “Protestant, Catholic, and dissenter.” Although I personally oppose violence, I have for many years been a vocal supporter of Irish unity.

But Gemma O’Doherty and Justin Barrett (the latter more virulent) advocate a different kind of nationalism. They claim to be the true trustees of the torch lit by Pearse, Connolly, and the other rebels, and say they are the protectors of Pearse’s proclamation of Poblacht na hÉireann. To Barrett and O’Doherty, the proclamation justifies their virulent anti-immigrant stance: they believe that when Pearse addressed the “people of Ireland,” he meant those with “Irish blood.” Though we can never really know Pearse’s intention, there is an argument that he was referring to people who live on the island of Ireland; if he had meant “people” as in “das Volk,” surely he would have capitalized People [see da Paor, L. The Easter Proclamation Of 1916 (2nd ed.)] Maybe he was referring to a Volk as in a blood-and-soil nationalism: to be Irish, one must have Irish ancestry — alas, we can’t ask him. But, as many Irish people fought in the Spanish Civil War, so I believe Pearse would have embraced my support for Irish freedom, even though I’m an American Jew.

But surely this concept, too, is problematic: How far back must one’s ancestors have come to Ireland for one to be Irish? White supremacists in the United States have repeatedly disproven the “pure blood” problem. There are many stories of white supremacists’ taking DNA tests in order to show their white genetic credentials, only to find out that — holy shit — they aren’t as white as they thought. The idea of “pure blood” in humans is absurd on its face.

So obviously Gemma and Justin Barrett are xenophobic, but why do I say they are fascist? While historians and political scientists disagree widely on characteristics of fascism, upon some qualities, there is widespread agreement:

➧ Use of fear to gain support.

➧ Identification of an “other” or “out group” to scapegoat.

➧ Deployment of violence against people who disagree with them.

➧ Reliance on emotional appeal over factual evidence; sometimes to the point of degrading the idea that there is real truth at all.

➧ Purveying the idea that it is only they, the fascists, who tell the truth in the face of government and/or media that consistently lie to and manipulate them.

➧ Appeal to bringing back a mythic past of the great nation along with extreme nationalism.

[See, for example, Albright, M. Fascism: A Warning. There are many books that deal with fascism, but this is the most accessible.]

The ACI and National Party engage in all of these tactics.

The claims of ACI and the National Party to want to reclaim Ireland for the Irish, from immigrants who are trying to “replace” the Irish or “breed” the Irish out of existence is pure fascism that deploys the language of neo-Nazis. Barrett and O’Doherty condemn abortion when practiced by Irish women, and support a pro-natalist philosophy for Irish people (as Mussolini did in Italy).

Both ACI and the National Party revile “multiculturalism,” “liberalism,” and “internationalism” as “weak.” (Are they trying to “bury the putrid corpse of liberty”?) They have identified a common “enemy” — immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants — and they stoke fear in people with the specter of being “replaced.” They long for an idyllic Irish past in which people could enjoy the “laughter of comely maidens” (per de Valera), when Irish people were all of “Irish blood” (i.e., white). They proclaim that Irish people have become weak and need to “wake up” to reality — and only they are telling the truth as the government and media — especially RTÉ — only lie.

Finally, the National Party uses violence in support of its tactics. In my particular case, violence refers to the coordinated anti-Semitic harassment on Twitter, designed to intimidate me either to quite Twitter or quit writing about Ireland. Or maybe just because they think it’s fun.

Since I’m going to save the rest of my history and analysis of fascism in Ireland for the larger research piece I’m working on, I’ll return now to the fascists on Twitter, who likely represent a significant percentage of all of the fascists in Ireland, as I have always found the country to be open and welcoming. Someone alerted Justin Barrett to my tweet about my research, and he reposted it on his personal feed — that’s how I ended up the target of innumerable anti-Semitic and otherwise personal attacks, some of which I’m quoting below.

Here are some examples of the abuse I’ve received. A small selection out of the 1,000+ tweets that have accused me and all Jews of genocide, called my “boyfriend” an ape (I’m married); and on numerous occasions, these Irish fascists have recommended that I “die”:

In addition, people have told me that “Ireland is more than potatoes”; “Admit you’re a witch”; “Why do you hate Ireland?”; and they have itemized my allegedly “Jewish” features including a “hook nose and rat face.” They have told me that I’m not welcome in Ireland, and claim that my degrees don’t mean I know anything because only people with “Irish blood” can understand Ireland’s history. They have asked me how I would feel about Irish people immigrating to Israel? In fact, comments about Israel may be the most common trope in all of the abuse.

Reminding these people that I am American, not Israeli, has no impact. Nor do they care that I never comment on Israel or Palestine, as I don’t have enough knowledge of the issues to make intelligent remarks on the subject. To them, I’m “a Jew” because my surname is Weinstein, and that’s all that matters.

ACI and the National Party are fascist groups that peddle conspiracy theories. They frequently quote Donald Trump and make reference to “fake news” in an effort to reinforce the idea that only they tell the truth; and the truth will bring the Irish people into the streets to reject immigrants and Europe (among other things). They claim that “multiculturalism” doesn’t work, and that immigrants will “replace” “real” Irish people.

But here’s the thing: I live in New York City, which is the most diverse city in the world. I ride the subway every day, and see people of every race and ethnicity sitting together, chatting, and, yes, dating. There are so many inter-racial couples in New York City that I wouldn’t even venture to estimate a figure. So regarding the idea that the Irish will be “bred out of existence”--no one is forcing anyone to marry or have sex with a person of another race or ethnicity. People do so by choice. And, despite the fact that Gemma claims in one of her videos that the Irish people would “never” vote for abortion, that referendum passed by a large majority in 2018.

And this, I believe, is the real fear of these fascists: that the majority of Irish people really are liberal and internationalist in their mindset. The idealistic Ireland that they nostalgically yearn for — abounding with “the laughter of comely maidens,” in which abortion and same-sex marriage were illegal, and where there was no international presence — doesn’t exist.

And really, it never did.

Laura Weinstein is an independent scholar whose expertise focuses on Irish history and politics. She lives in New York City with her husband and three rescue cats.

Fascist Intimidation On Twitter

Laura Weinstein details the nature of her online exchanges with Irish fascists.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that fascists don't like to be called fascists. (Apologies to Jane Austen.)

As a scholar of Irish history and politics, I never intended for any of my research and writing to be personal. I’ve published academic articles on the Armagh dirty protest and sexual assault in the journal Eire-Ireland. Although I write from a feminist perspective, the peer-review process has deemed my work to be solid, accurate interpretations of the evidence. And it should be, for all of the years I’ve spent studying Ireland: I hold an MA in Irish Politics from Queen’s University of Belfast, and a Ph.D. in Irish History from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

So imagine my shock when, in response to what I believed to have been a banal tweet about my current research, Sputnik crashed down on my head in the form of hundreds — nay, thousands — of harassing, belligerent, anti-Semitic remarks from Irish people who think I have no right to comment — and no real knowledge of Ireland because I am not, myself, Irish. And I don’t pretend to be; my Twitter handle @Irish_Dr_Laura refers to my degree, not my ethnicity. Their abuse reached the feeds of American bigots, and all of a sudden, my life became about reporting racially offensive attacks on Twitter. I have had to block 213 people (and counting) for sending me hateful tweets over the course of just four days.

Here’s my original statement:

Yes, I made a joke about Gemma O’Doherty and Justin Barrett, but these figures are so preposterous that they’re the butt of many jokes on Twitter. It seems that fascists don’t like to be called fascists. And while I agree that the term is used loosely a lot of the time, these people and their followers are fascists, which I will demonstrate here (and in more detail in a later paper, which will chronicle right-wing nationalism in Ireland).

Gemma O’Doherty was once a respected investigative journalist, but she has become an Irish national joke in most circles. She has founded a political party called Anti-Corruption Ireland (ACI), and she uses her platform to rant about Muslims, the danger of 5G (which, in her words, will make the cancer rate “one-in-one” — i.e., 100% of people will have cancer), the “hoax” of climate change, and the allegedly made-up story about the dead babies at the Tuam mother-and-baby home. YouTube banned Gemma for making videos that violated the site’s rules, so she has taken to uploading her videos on her personal website. She also stages protests outside of Google’s Dublin office in the name of “free speech.”

Justin Barrett has a much longer and more sordid history as a right-wing bully. In the 1990s and early 2000s, he was a leader of Youth Defence, a group dedicated in large part to preventing abortion from being legalised in Ireland (he lost that battle in 2018). He was a vocal supporter of the 2004 Citizenship Referendum, which took away birthright citizenship for people born in Ireland. He is also a known associate of the openly fascist Italian group Forza Nueva. Today, Barrett is the head of the Irish National Party, a fascist party dedicated to — they may as well say it this way — making Ireland great again.

Throughout my diligent study of Irish history, “nationalism” has traditionally implied a desire to let the people of Ireland govern themselves and enjoy Gaelic culture (hence the GAA and Abbey Theatre, for examples). Nationalists and Republicans want the entire island of Ireland to be a single country, free from British rule. This strand of nationalism has a lengthy history that need not be delineated here in any great detail, so a few illustrative examples will have to suffice: the United Irishmen rebellion of 1798 (“the year of the French”); Robert Emmet’s rebellion a few years later; Daniel O’Connell’s repeal movement; Parnell’s more moderate Home Rule campaign; and of course the famous Easter Rising and War for Independence of the Twentieth Century. The paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland today and during the Troubles claimed to be carrying that torch.

This brand of nationalism was largely anti-imperialist and dedicated to the principles of freedom and equality. See, for example, Theobald Wolfe Tone’s famous stance on uniting “Protestant, Catholic, and dissenter.” Although I personally oppose violence, I have for many years been a vocal supporter of Irish unity.

But Gemma O’Doherty and Justin Barrett (the latter more virulent) advocate a different kind of nationalism. They claim to be the true trustees of the torch lit by Pearse, Connolly, and the other rebels, and say they are the protectors of Pearse’s proclamation of Poblacht na hÉireann. To Barrett and O’Doherty, the proclamation justifies their virulent anti-immigrant stance: they believe that when Pearse addressed the “people of Ireland,” he meant those with “Irish blood.” Though we can never really know Pearse’s intention, there is an argument that he was referring to people who live on the island of Ireland; if he had meant “people” as in “das Volk,” surely he would have capitalized People [see da Paor, L. The Easter Proclamation Of 1916 (2nd ed.)] Maybe he was referring to a Volk as in a blood-and-soil nationalism: to be Irish, one must have Irish ancestry — alas, we can’t ask him. But, as many Irish people fought in the Spanish Civil War, so I believe Pearse would have embraced my support for Irish freedom, even though I’m an American Jew.

But surely this concept, too, is problematic: How far back must one’s ancestors have come to Ireland for one to be Irish? White supremacists in the United States have repeatedly disproven the “pure blood” problem. There are many stories of white supremacists’ taking DNA tests in order to show their white genetic credentials, only to find out that — holy shit — they aren’t as white as they thought. The idea of “pure blood” in humans is absurd on its face.

So obviously Gemma and Justin Barrett are xenophobic, but why do I say they are fascist? While historians and political scientists disagree widely on characteristics of fascism, upon some qualities, there is widespread agreement:

➧ Use of fear to gain support.

➧ Identification of an “other” or “out group” to scapegoat.

➧ Deployment of violence against people who disagree with them.

➧ Reliance on emotional appeal over factual evidence; sometimes to the point of degrading the idea that there is real truth at all.

➧ Purveying the idea that it is only they, the fascists, who tell the truth in the face of government and/or media that consistently lie to and manipulate them.

➧ Appeal to bringing back a mythic past of the great nation along with extreme nationalism.

[See, for example, Albright, M. Fascism: A Warning. There are many books that deal with fascism, but this is the most accessible.]

The ACI and National Party engage in all of these tactics.

The claims of ACI and the National Party to want to reclaim Ireland for the Irish, from immigrants who are trying to “replace” the Irish or “breed” the Irish out of existence is pure fascism that deploys the language of neo-Nazis. Barrett and O’Doherty condemn abortion when practiced by Irish women, and support a pro-natalist philosophy for Irish people (as Mussolini did in Italy).

Both ACI and the National Party revile “multiculturalism,” “liberalism,” and “internationalism” as “weak.” (Are they trying to “bury the putrid corpse of liberty”?) They have identified a common “enemy” — immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants — and they stoke fear in people with the specter of being “replaced.” They long for an idyllic Irish past in which people could enjoy the “laughter of comely maidens” (per de Valera), when Irish people were all of “Irish blood” (i.e., white). They proclaim that Irish people have become weak and need to “wake up” to reality — and only they are telling the truth as the government and media — especially RTÉ — only lie.

Finally, the National Party uses violence in support of its tactics. In my particular case, violence refers to the coordinated anti-Semitic harassment on Twitter, designed to intimidate me either to quite Twitter or quit writing about Ireland. Or maybe just because they think it’s fun.

Since I’m going to save the rest of my history and analysis of fascism in Ireland for the larger research piece I’m working on, I’ll return now to the fascists on Twitter, who likely represent a significant percentage of all of the fascists in Ireland, as I have always found the country to be open and welcoming. Someone alerted Justin Barrett to my tweet about my research, and he reposted it on his personal feed — that’s how I ended up the target of innumerable anti-Semitic and otherwise personal attacks, some of which I’m quoting below.

Here are some examples of the abuse I’ve received. A small selection out of the 1,000+ tweets that have accused me and all Jews of genocide, called my “boyfriend” an ape (I’m married); and on numerous occasions, these Irish fascists have recommended that I “die”:

In addition, people have told me that “Ireland is more than potatoes”; “Admit you’re a witch”; “Why do you hate Ireland?”; and they have itemized my allegedly “Jewish” features including a “hook nose and rat face.” They have told me that I’m not welcome in Ireland, and claim that my degrees don’t mean I know anything because only people with “Irish blood” can understand Ireland’s history. They have asked me how I would feel about Irish people immigrating to Israel? In fact, comments about Israel may be the most common trope in all of the abuse.

Reminding these people that I am American, not Israeli, has no impact. Nor do they care that I never comment on Israel or Palestine, as I don’t have enough knowledge of the issues to make intelligent remarks on the subject. To them, I’m “a Jew” because my surname is Weinstein, and that’s all that matters.

ACI and the National Party are fascist groups that peddle conspiracy theories. They frequently quote Donald Trump and make reference to “fake news” in an effort to reinforce the idea that only they tell the truth; and the truth will bring the Irish people into the streets to reject immigrants and Europe (among other things). They claim that “multiculturalism” doesn’t work, and that immigrants will “replace” “real” Irish people.

But here’s the thing: I live in New York City, which is the most diverse city in the world. I ride the subway every day, and see people of every race and ethnicity sitting together, chatting, and, yes, dating. There are so many inter-racial couples in New York City that I wouldn’t even venture to estimate a figure. So regarding the idea that the Irish will be “bred out of existence”--no one is forcing anyone to marry or have sex with a person of another race or ethnicity. People do so by choice. And, despite the fact that Gemma claims in one of her videos that the Irish people would “never” vote for abortion, that referendum passed by a large majority in 2018.

And this, I believe, is the real fear of these fascists: that the majority of Irish people really are liberal and internationalist in their mindset. The idealistic Ireland that they nostalgically yearn for — abounding with “the laughter of comely maidens,” in which abortion and same-sex marriage were illegal, and where there was no international presence — doesn’t exist.

And really, it never did.

Laura Weinstein is an independent scholar whose expertise focuses on Irish history and politics. She lives in New York City with her husband and three rescue cats.

39 comments:

The replies she got, regardless of whether you think them appropriate, are predictable replies based on the dialectic enforced on westerners, that they can have no voice or opinion on any out-groups matters, and westerners engaged in this deny a voice to marginalised minorities on their own concerns and matters. They are told the best thing westerners can do is sit back, shut up, and listen. You cant run the democratic party in the states without deferring to this notion.In this context, the obviously corse language apart, the main theme is people insisting the good academic to concentrate on her own Jewish privilege, and tackle problems in her own community instead. None of this makes one a fascist, more another victim of the current culture, one that no political groups with hope of power will advocate for. It will get worse.

Excellent piece. You are so much better than these pathetic keyboard nobodies. Even where it appears to be the work of cranks, no society can afford to ignore any manifestation of the Alt-Right. Your research will be so valuable in this respect.

DaithiOD

Your screed is just parrot- crying the pathetic victimhood of Brexiteers and Trumpians. Political correctness is not about imposing conformity on people but merely good manners.

It would appear to me you can't handle any manifestation of nationalism, independence, anti globalism or sovereignty and are left with only one tactic - smearing decent people as alt-right and far right and fascists/nazis. You made right fools of yourselves on Barrow Street two weeks ago and showed how low you will go in setting-up Irish nationalists and supporters of free speech to look like Nazis. Shame on you. BTW - the lads and lassies protesting outside Google are the same people who stuck up for the nationalist community in the north not that long ago and were labelled then, like we are now, as terrorists, nazis, etc etc etc. We have thick skins!

Where would black and minority ethnic (BME) people say that on average multiculturalism working for BME people?

The subway anecdote is trivial example of multiculturalism working, but going with it: I am in a mixed race relationship, and would often be sitting with friends on transport where I am the only white person in the group. We could attempt to outline a more objective set of measures:

Where would BME people not perceive themselves to be victims of an attainment gap in education, at all levels, in part due to the structural (and/or legacy of) racism of the institution?

Where would BME adults not feel discriminated against in the workplace? As measured by comparable pay grades, access to promotions, numerical representation on boards, unemployment levels, workplace accommodation for different lifestyles (access to prayer rooms etc)?

Where would BME adults not feel the Laws of the country are skewed against them? As measured the net effect they are over represented in the prison population numbers?

Where would BME adults agree they are adequately represented in the political sphere? Measured by equity in the franchise and where candidates understand and act on their specific concerns, or at a minimum do not entertain racist/xenophobic language/ideas that circulate within the political institutions?

Where would BME adults feel they can attain the equal access to the cultural life of the country? Perhaps measured by adequate representation and participation in the media, arts, literature, film and theatre spheres?

At a more basic human level, is there a country that BME people feel safe and wanted?

Is there a country the BME community could suggest for a single one of these, let alone all?

How apt for you to say fascists don't like being called fascists. It is your good self madam who is the lgbt open border fascist in denial.

I'm going to make this so simple that even an 'expert' in Ireland like your good self can understand. Ready....ok....here goes - Irish people who do not want to be a minority in their own homeland are not fascists. Got that. They are nationalists.

It was your bad to call people fascists who are not fascists. If you have a ph.D you should know the difference between fascists and nationalists.

You opened the door to 'anti-semitic' remarks because guess what girl, Irish nationalists who care about their people and homeland, like most people do, don't like being called fascists by uppity academics. You leave yourself open to these remarks as Israel is funding many of the NGO open border outfits in Europe while Israel itself refuses to take any refugees. Go figure. You don't have to be Einstein Ms Weinstein to see why Paddy might get pissed off with you.I had a look through the tweets. Boohoo. Poor old you. But hey, maybe you will learn your lesson now and be more careful about labelling Irish people defending their homeland as fascists. Then again maybe not, as one thing I've learned over the last few years dealing with the lgbt open border brigade is that you have absolutely no moral economic political spiritual or any other kind of argument to counter us with. Nada. Nothing. All you have is a limited vocabulary like - fascist racist islamophobe and homophobe to hurl at us, propaganda, smear tactics, and an ability to constantly lie and deceive (see Hazel Chu below). You have weaponized language to deliberately scare the average Joe from joining in the debate for fear of being labelled with one of your nonsensical made up words like islamophobe. Also, for the readers of this thread, here is an ex Israeli minister (no less) explaining what 'anti-semitism' really is all about.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BEVLD6YHsc

You call decent Irish people fascists - prepare for some flack. What do you expect people to do, lie back and allow themselves to be slandered is it? Get real girl.

(2)As for saying Gemma O'Doherty is a 'preposterous figure' - well then you deserve every bit of abuse you got. She is the only Irish journalist to take on our beyond corrupt paedophile protecting police force over the years. She is an extremely brave woman taking on these gangsters. She is also the only Irish journalist to defend Ian Bailey, an english journalist framed for the murder of a French woman in Cork 23 years ago (a deceased Garda is suspected as being the murderer). She is also a lone voice in Irish journalism in highlighting the sexual degeneracy being foisted on our children at school. How dare you call her a preposterous figure you cheeky yank.You say her followers(me) are fascists. You're not the only one. I heard Green politician Hazel Chu (a good Irish name there) saying on RTE national radio that she saw people giving the Nazi salute at Gemma's protest outside Google HQ on Barrow street two weeks ago. These photos of people draped in Irish tricolours giving the 'Nazi salute' went viral. People all over the world expressed outrage that Irish people were giving the Nazi salute. Only thing is, guess what, they weren't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The anti-Google protestors were waving goodbye to the assorted lgbters and unicorn fairies who showed up to counter Gemma's protest as they walked away. Its on youtube!!! They were waving goodbye to the lgbt open border fascists who used these photos to smear people waving goodbye and good riddance as Nazis. How fucking awful is that?The lgbt brigade actually sent one of their own to stand in front of the anti-Google protestors and give the Nazi salute but it was so blatant a set-up even they didn't run with it in the end. Please watch the clip below. How awful is it that Irish people protesting a gigantic censorious corporate monster like Google (ie - corporate fascism) can be deliberately set-up to look like Nazis. One woman lost her job over this and is now suing Hazel Chu. More power to her elbow and I hope she takes her to the cleaners.

Irish patriots being set up as fascists -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqFCdrEuUY

Also - please check out the behaviour of the Irish nationalists protesting the gigantic censorious monster Google, to the rainbow lgbt rent-a-crowd who showed up to vent their spleen at 'racists' and 'fascists'. Quite a few are off their heads as they dance to their favourite gay disco songs. The Irish are rising. The globalists are sinking. tiocfaidh ar la.https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=f2FaABs_LR0

Your attempt to belittle Barrett is equally pathetic, but I will let him defend his good name himself. I am sure your words will reach his ear and he will have something to fire back at you, if he considers you a worthy opponent that is.

(3)You then list several supposed fascist markers and go on again to explain why you think us Irish nationalists are fascists. By the same token you could have said the same (except for the fourth, which actually sums you guys up) about the United Irishmen, the Fenians, the early Provos, (not the later lgbt open border fascist type and dissident goon squads) and basically any group that struggled against British imperialism. To put it bluntly, you're talking nonsense Ms Weinstein.We are not anti-immigrant. We are anti-mass immigration. And its not just for selfish reasons. Africa is the richest continent on the planet in terms of mineral wealth. It should be thriving. It could be thriving. And please God some day it will be thriving. But it will never thrive while its western corporate backed political class are screwing their people. Why isn't the left highlighting the mega-corruption in Africa? Why did the western media and the fake left lionise the gangster Mandela and his criminal scumbag outfit the ANC? Is it because he was a good uncle Tom for them and protected their interests there? Why are you fake lefties more concerned with teaching our children how to be trannies and berating people who don't want to be a minority in their own homeland who take on corporate giants like Google as fascists? What are the fake left's plans for Africa Ms Weinstein? Have you anything to say about all this? Finally - Africa is 360 times the size of Ireland. That is three hundred and sixty in case you think that was a typo. Do you expect this tiny island to sort out its population explosion!!!!!!!

You are kidding no-one when you suggest that NY is some kind of multi-cultural heaven. Nor may I add is Rotherham (I think you know why I mention Rotherham - seriously - why arnt you 'feminists' highlighting the mass rape of english girls by Pakistani grooming gangs there), nor is Leeds, nor is London. Save the baloney for a more stupid race than us please.

Also, I find this paragraph in your article perplexing -"Reminding these people that I am American, not Israeli, has no impact. Nor do they care that I never comment on Israel or Palestine, as I don’t have enough knowledge of the issues to make intelligent remarks on the subject. To them, I’m “a Jew” because my surname is Weinstein, and that’s all that matters."I am perpexed because I read the following on your website -"Associate LecturerUniversity of Wisconsin-MadisonJune 2007 - May 2010 Designed curriculum and taught Holocaust: History, Memory and Education, an upper-level interdepartmental (History/Jewish Studies/Education) seminar for undergraduate and graduate students. Integrated methods from history, theories of memory and pedagogical approaches on how to teach the Holocaust to kindergarten through adult students."

So what are you telling us - you don't mention Israel when teaching Kindergarten kids and adults about the Holocaust is it? Because you don't, as you say, " have enough knowledge of the issues to make intelligent remarks on the subject. " Do the good folks who run the University of Wisconsin know about your ignorance of Israel despite you designing their Jewish curriculum!

(4)Finally, I found the last sentence in your article beyond funny, in fact I was glad that I was wearing my corset because my sides might have burst open when I read you say that there was no 'international presence' here in Ireland in the past.

Well Laura, I'm glad you have learned in all your years studying Irish history and becoming a (self - appointed) expert that we never had an 'international presence' here. Was it Irish who were planted here Laura? Was it the Irish army of occupation our forefathers struggled against? May I suggest that Israel is not the only small country that you 'don't have enough knowledge of to make intelligent remarks.'

As you yanks say - have a nice day.

ps - With regards to you mentioning white supremacists and their 'pure blood' problems - you might find the following article interesting (for all the wrong reasons).You may be familiar with the saying - what's good for the joose, sorry, the goose is good for the gander, but does that apply here?!https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/2/2/469/826237

You have my full support in any actions you wish against the vile, racist screed you are being subjected by these bullies wno are stretching free speech to its limits.

How dare anyone call Nelson Mandela, a man of courage and integrity who embodied the spirit of reconciliation despite his ydears of incarceration by a uniquely evil system, a "crimina;l scumbag"? In the eyes of who, Frank Dub. You are a disgrace to Irish people wherever they live and who they are.

Barry Gilheany. I'm afraid you have made a mistake. I did not say that. Also, the ANC make the SFers look like choirboys. Or choirgirls as the case may be now. Indeed they could be choirtrans for all I know now.

If calling out racism and standing up for other contributors on this forum when they are subject to the sort of personal attacks and bullying that Laura Weinberg has just been subjected to is woke then so fucking what. I am merely doing what Anthony promised Laura and provide a supportive environment for her. Other weblogs have a policy of "play the ball, not the man/woman". It should apply here.

You love your definitions of words don’t you BG? And you certainly find a lot of racism to call out on this blog, indeed I wonder if there is a thread with more than three comments you haven’t added to by identifying some form of racism in one of the posters? That would make for an interesting stat wouldn’t it?

Play the ball not the person , how self unaware are you ? Even on this thread you started off with attempted personal attacks on me when I made a lengthy attempt to examine a more general dynamic that manifested itself with the author. Congrats on turning another post into something about your relationships with others on this blog, you seem to need this.

Barry Gilheany, on another thread you said this ; 'spewing out his venom; this commenter acted as a typical keyboard bullly and coward'Could you please give me an example of where I was spewing venom and behaved like a bully?I am fed up to the back teeth of being labelled a Nazi and fascist by you guys. The deliberate setting up of people to look like Nazis by your side at Barrow Street (people I may add who were defending free speech, which is what this site is about) was a new low for you guys. Then we get a blow in academic who puports to be an expert on Ireland (but not on Israel, unless she is setting up Jewish curriculae in American Universities) sticking her oar in and calling Irish patriots 'preposterous' 'bile filled' ' fascists' and lumping them in with Mussolini. Enough is enough. I dealt with her article in a forthright manner pointing out her bullshit in the best way I could, which is what she deserved. That is not bullying. Labelling Irish nationalists as bile filled fascists is far worse than anything in my post. As I said in another post, one of the Barrow Street protestors has lost her job after being photographed supposedly giving the Nazi salute. Do you guys have anything to say about this pathetic behaviour from your side? And then you have the nerve to call me a bully and a coward.As for the ANC - what bubble are you living in? Africa is a pretty corrupt continent (to say the least)and SA is one of the most corrupt countries there. What is your problem with accepting this? Poor black people will tell you as much but I suppose when whitey says it its 'racist.' The place is a complete kip and people are worse off now than when under the apartheid regime. And the Boers are being slaughtered week in week out but sadly for them they are the wrong skin colour for Sky News to start reporting on their plight.You have absolutely nothing constuctive to say on anything I have come across on this site. You do not want to engage in any kind of debate on any of these topics. Why is that? All you do is throw hissy fits and start flinging around words like racist fascist homophobe xenophobe etc etc etc. You are the bully mister. Seriously - what is your angle?

I was not present at Barrow Street as I am resident in Colchester, Essex.

Having grown up in Northern Ireland, I think I have some knowledge of where nationalist bigotry (whether draped in green, white or orange or red, white or blue) can lead to. As somebody of CNR origin but who no longer identifies with either tribe, I say "thanks but no thanks" to solidarity from Gemma's merry band.

As Britain descends into a fog of (English) nationalist bigotry and xenophobic victimnhood in the aftermath of the right-wing nationalist, dark money financed and Putin supported coup known as Brexit, Northern Ireland is the warning from recent history of the consequences of what happens when a Trump, Farage or Gemma gets traction with people.

As Britain begins to turn away from the rest of the world, so the Republic of Ireland steadlily enbraces it. Last year's referendum to repeal the Eighth Amendment was a true declaration of indepedence from the dark forces of the (US) inspired religious right and a beacon of enlightenment to the rest of Europe. Time you got used to it and what is your issue with LTGB "open border fascists anyway? You get really piqued when the F-word is directed at you but are quite prepared to throw it round with gay abandon. Sauce for the goose maybe?

"And this, I believe, is the real fear of these fascists: that the majority of Irish people really are liberal and internationalist in their mindset. The idealistic Ireland that they nostalgically yearn for — abounding with “the laughter of comely maidens,” in which abortion and same-sex marriage were illegal, and where there was no international presence — doesn’t exist.

And really, it never did."

The Weinsteins of the world say this exact same thing everywhere. In America. In Germany. In England. In France. In Sweden. The only country they don't say that about is of course Israel, whose idealized past actually is mostly the stuff of myth.

The purpose of this pernicious lie on behalf of the Weinsteins is to subvert their hosts and convince them to abandon their identity so they can be overtaken by foreigners. Weinstein knows full well that Ireland's past is real because it's precisely the Ireland that she is trying to destroy.

Abortions, gay marriage, and immigrants are very recent additions to Ireland. Africans and Muslims never had a presence there. Weinstein knows that. She's lying when she says otherwise, and gaslighting when she claims that Ireland's nationalist path is some kind of "myth."

The only myth here is the one Weinstein and all the other Weinsteins in Europe are peddling: the myth of multiculturalism. It is Irish Nationalists who are trying to preserve the real Ireland. It is hateful foreigners like Weinstein who are trying to destroy Ireland through the same tactics they have used in Sweden, America, and Germany.

"And this, I believe, is the real fear of these fascists: that the majority of Irish people really are liberal and internationalist in their mindset. The idealistic Ireland that they nostalgically yearn for — abounding with “the laughter of comely maidens,” in which abortion and same-sex marriage were illegal, and where there was no international presence — doesn’t exist.

And really, it never did."

The Weinsteins of the world say this exact same thing everywhere. In America. In Germany. In England. In France. In Sweden. The only country they don't say that about is of course Israel, whose idealized past actually is mostly the stuff of myth.

The purpose of this pernicious lie on behalf of the Weinsteins is to subvert their hosts and convince them to abandon their identity so they can be overtaken by foreigners. Weinstein knows full well that Ireland's past is real because it's precisely the Ireland that she is trying to destroy.

Abortions, gay marriage, and immigrants are very recent additions to Ireland. Africans and Muslims never had a presence there. Weinstein knows that. She's lying when she says otherwise, and gaslighting when she claims that Ireland's nationalist path is some kind of "myth."

The only myth here is the one Weinstein and all the other Weinsteins in Europe are peddling: the myth of multiculturalism. It is Irish Nationalists who are trying to preserve the real Ireland. It is hateful foreigners like Weinstein who are trying to destroy Ireland and see its people conquered by third worlders.

All nationalisms are the products of imagined communities to varying extents.

Abortion has always existed in Ireland either in the forms of miscarriage or infanticide or in export of the demand to the jurisdiction of England & Wales.

It was Irish women along with their allies who finally persuaded the Irish state that abortion was a social reality in Irish society by removing the Eighth Amendment by a two-thirds majority in last year's referendum. Like wise Irish gay people with their allies achieved equal marriage ibn 2015.

When Irish people em igratded to the USA, Britian, Australia and other countries as a result of the Great Famine/An Gorta Mor and the economic climate of the 1950s, 1980s and 2000s were they seeking to subvert their hosts and convince them to abandon their identity?

"All nationalisms are the products of imagined communities to varying extents."

No they are not. Nationalism is a biological drive. People who are genetically-similar wish to live among their own. The human species is inherently tribal.

"Abortion has always existed in Ireland either in the forms of miscarriage or infanticide or in export of the demand to the jurisdiction of England & Wales."

Context denial. On-demand abortion, the kind that was just introduced in Ireland, is a new thing and not in any way comparable to miscarriages. BTW in Israel, abortions need to be approved by a committee of rabbis but I don't see Weinstein demanding more lax laws there. Of course not; her people don't believe in aborting their own children, only ours.

"It was Irish women along with their allies who finally persuaded the Irish state that abortion was a social reality in Irish society by removing the Eighth Amendment by a two-thirds majority in last year's referendum."

Actually, it was due to a huge propaganda initiative by corporations and NGOs, exactly the kinds that are run by people like Weinstein.

Like abortion, the LGBT movement is a completely astroturfed movement that is being pushed by every globalist organization on the planet.

"When Irish people em igratded to the USA, Britian, Australia and other countries as a result of the Great Famine/An Gorta Mor and the economic climate of the 1950s, 1980s and 2000s were they seeking to subvert their hosts and convince them to abandon their identity?"

No, because the Irish are not like the Weinsteins. They're not Semites who have an inborn hatred of all Europeans.

Well, this guy is clearly a bigot. Anyone who asks a person with an identifiably Jewish surname about Israel, or makes unwarranted comparisons to Israel, is acting as an anti-Semite. His use of my last name alone --"The Irish are not like the Weinsteins" is using my surname as synecdoche for all Jewish people. In addition, he seems not to understand the linguistic meaning of "Semite," a family of languages that also includes Arabic (in addition to Hebrew) --"Semite" isn't a real thing, but a ridiculous construct of bigots. Now, he probably dislikes other speakers of Semitic languages, too, but he's only focusing on Jews here.

He writes: "People who are genetically-similar wish to live among their own" -- this idea is inherently bigoted. How would he propose to explain the multitude of inter-racial marriages? How does he explain Queens? I live in Queens, which is the most diverse county in the entire world. We do just fine.

"Abortion has always existed in Ireland either in the forms of miscarriage or infanticide or in export of the demand to the jurisdiction of England & Wales."

Context denial. On-demand abortion, the kind that was just introduced in Ireland, is a new thing and not in any way comparable to miscarriages. BTW in Israel, abortions need to be approved by a committee of rabbis but I don't see Weinstein demanding more lax laws there. Of course not; her people don't believe in aborting their own children, only ours.

This is bad history. Miscarriage in this context refers to self-induced miscarriage; infanticide had been a big problem not only in Ireland but also in Britain. There are entire books on it. And, yes, of course after abortion was legalized in Britain in the late 1960s, thousands of Irish women each year traveled to Britain to procure abortions. There is a new book out called The Irish Abortion Journey, 1920-2018 by Lindsey Earner-Byrne and Diane Urquhart that details much of this history, and it's worth reading. [Also, I'm not Israeli and I'm an atheist, so to refer to Israelis as "my people".... yeah, see my remarks above]

"It was Irish women along with their allies who finally persuaded the Irish state that abortion was a social reality in Irish society by removing the Eighth Amendment by a two-thirds majority in last year's referendum."

Actually, it was due to a huge propaganda initiative by corporations and NGOs, exactly the kinds that are run by people like Weinstein.

Bullshit. Again, refer to the Earner-Byrne and Urquhart book. It's solidly written and researched. Unlike the article he cites, which is not. [Hell, I wish I ran a corporation or an NGO! I'm currently without a job. Another Jewish stereotype. I'd be flattered that he thinks me so rich and powerful if he weren't a moron.]

I see you didn't respond to my original post or most of my salient points. Typical.

"Anyone who asks a person with an identifiably Jewish surname about Israel, or makes unwarranted comparisons to Israel, is acting as an anti-Semite."

Anyone who settles in another people's country and immediately starts agitating for mass immigration, abortions, and anti-nationalism is acting as an enemy of that country.

Here's an idea: how about you love Ireland for being Irish and not try to turn it into an American-style urban hellhole? How about you not promote policies that will lead to the extinction of Irish people and Irish culture?

"this idea is inherently bigoted."

Not an argument. You invoke slurs like "bigot," "racist," and "Nazi" when you can't refute what's been said, because you know I'm right. You know full well that human beings are inherently tribal and band together for survival. That's why Israel exists, has walls on its borders, does not accept refugees, and even requires DNA testing for immigrants to verify that they are racially Jewish. I'm White and cannot live in Israel (not that I'd want to) due to its discriminatory laws. Yet your people demand the right to live in our countries, and not only live in them but destroy them and persecute nationalists if we resist.

"How would he propose to explain the multitude of inter-racial marriages?"

The predictable result of mass immigration, indoctrination, and incessant miscegenation propaganda by people like you. All of which is very recent in Ireland. What's your refutation going to be, Ireland was always a land of Vietnamese, Pakis, and Somalis? You know it wasn't.

"How does he explain Queens? I live in Queens, which is the most diverse county in the entire world."

You live in Queens, so why on earth do you care what the Irish do in their own homeland? How about you focus on your life in Queens and leave the Irish alone instead of screeching about nationalism in their country? The Irish- and every European nationality- have a fundamental human right to protect their borders, culture, identity, and people regardless if people like you screech about "fascism" and "racism."

BTW, good article on you and what your hostile little tribe did to the Irish, a people who had never harmed you, but whom you seem to hate for no reason.

Frederick.They eventually want us to believe that the family has no 'biological drive'. The Globohomo agenda is as anti-family as it is as anti-nation.

Also, it never ceases to amaze me how people with ph.Ds and professorships and all kinds of academic achievements, who continuously quote peer reviewed papers and claim that their peer reviewed papers are better than your peer reviewed papers, can then, after all their supposed learning and expertise, reduce everything to - you're a fascist/Nazi/bigot/racist/xenophobe and we are enlightened beings who know what's best for the human race.

The infantile and imbecilic behaviour among intellectuals on this topic now is shocking. It is literally unbelievable that the standard of debate has sunk this low.

There is no talking to some of you. You simply do not want to talk about the economic lunacy (amongst other reasons) of mass immigration into a corrupt and crooked country like ours that is not able, or should I say - not willing, to look after her own weak and vulnerable. You do not want to talk about the landlord and employer capitalist croneys who are the only natives supporting this assault on our nation as they are the only ones who are benefitting. You do not want to engage in any kind of debate on any aspect of mass immigration. You continue to pretend that these people are refugees fleeing wars (where - Pakistan, Georgia, Albania!!!!!!!) and not what they really are - economic migrants and chancers, aided and abetted it must be said, by globalist NGO's and our own home grown gombeen men who see dollar signs out of this international racket. You always swerve the 'debate' back to your comfort zone of racism, bigotry and Nazis. That's because you don't like the facts - the facts which are stacked against you, so you have to turn the whole debate upside down and inside out and into a battle about racism and bigotry. You, despite all your learning and expertise, just want to reduce everything to name calling and talk about hate speech. You even come out with the nonsense that we are not really a nation and that its all in our imaginations. For the love of God will ye ever fucking give over.

This recently made Irish documentary goes on for two hours but the maker tells us that the first 45 mins are only necessary to watch as the rest of the documentary just confirms everything he originally lays out. Are any of you on the enlightened side willing to talk about any of the points he brings up?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKywvcglcc

When the grooming gangs are operating in your town, like they are all over England, Colchester included Barry - https://www.defendevropa.com/2017/news/grooming-gangs-british-girls-easy-meat/ - it will be too late to talk. When your kids have to emigrate because they can't get work and can't afford a house or rear a family here it will be too late to talk (its that way now). When you become a minority in your own homeland - it is no longer your homeland! Simple as. And you can then watch the whole minority rights 'debate' change when the natives are in a minority!

Will the Irish end up like the Jews some day, wandering the earth lamenting the loss of their homeland? Lets hope we don't get into usury then either.

Where is your scientific, sociological and peer-reviewed evidence that "Semites have an inborn hatred of all Europeans"?

Likewise what is your peer-reviewed mdedico-social eviddence for your contention that "Nationalism is a biological drive" and that "People who are genetically similar wish to live among their own". Not Mein Kampf surely?

Have you read, engaged with or are aware of the work of Benjamin Anderson who has written "Imagined Communities" the classic socioliogical analysis of nationalism?

Were not the hundreds of tnousands of abortions performed on Irish women from both sides of the border in England since the 1967 Abortion Act evidecne that the abortion has always existed in Irish society and that last year's referendum was merely reflecting this reality?

When you talk about abortion and LGBT rdeform being pushed by every globalist organisation, it seems to me that you see the hand of George Soros behind them.

Your reference to "hateful foreigners" like Weinsteins who as "Semites" "have an inborn hatred of all Europeans" is a disgusting racist screed written by soembody who skulks behkind a moniker who does not have the gumption to reveal their true identity to this audience.

"Where is your scientific, sociological and peer-reviewed evidence that "Semites have an inborn hatred of all Europeans"?"

Jews themselves can't go a day without spewing anti-White drivel on social media. Then there's that whole bolshevism thing where Jews murdered some 60 million Slavic Christians in the USSR. Here's a challenge: name a single prominent Jew in any Western country who supports maintaining the culture and identity of that nation as opposed to destroying it with mass immigration.

"Likewise what is your peer-reviewed mdedico-social eviddence for your contention that "Nationalism is a biological drive" and that "People who are genetically similar wish to live among their own". "

You'd have to be an utter chud to not understand this basic fact of human society. When people are given a choice, they self-segregate. Multiculturalism and racial integration are enforced top-down by state power. In America, White children were literally forced at gunpoint by soldiers to integrate with blacks in schools. That is tyranny. Nobody in the West ever got to vote on whether they wanted to become "multicultural," or the more correct term, multiracial. Why do you think White Flight exists?

"Have you read, engaged with or are aware of the work of Benjamin Anderson who has written "Imagined Communities" the classic socioliogical analysis of nationalism?"

No, because sociology is not science. Since you're big on credentials, have you ever read Paved With Good Intentions by Yale-educated Jared Taylor? Race, Evolution, and Behavior by Oxford-educated J. Philippe Rushton? The Bell Curve by Harvard scientist Charles Murray? Yale-educated Robert D. Putnam's 2007 paper on how multiculturalism undermines social life and public trust?

"Were not the hundreds of tnousands of abortions performed on Irish women from both sides of the border in England since the 1967 Abortion Act evidecne that the abortion has always existed in Irish society and that last year's referendum was merely reflecting this reality?"

Why does history with liberals start in the late 60s? I mean, you are aware that stuff happened before that, right?

"When you talk about abortion and LGBT rdeform being pushed by every globalist organisation, it seems to me that you see the hand of George Soros behind them."

Soros is only one example. Google, Facebook, Goldman Sachs, etc. are also common culprits, also owned by the same exact tribe. Also government organizations like the State Department and CIA have engaged in similar shenanigans across the globe, particularly with "color revolution" usurpation in Eastern Europe.

"Your reference to "hateful foreigners" like Weinsteins who as "Semites" "have an inborn hatred of all Europeans" is a disgusting racist screed written by soembody who skulks behkind a moniker who does not have the gumption to reveal their true identity to this audience."

Yet you can't refute my point, which is telling. How is she not a hateful foreigner? She has the gall to insult native Irish when they defend their homeland from displacement-level immigration and cultural destruction. That's obviously hateful behavior on her part.

I think you'll find the anti-Irish 'bigoted drivel' is coming from the English based Irishman and the American based lady who sometimes thinks she's Irish (when in Rome/Dublin).

An honest nationalist response from Frederick to the outrageous nonsense emanating from BG and LW is described by yourself as 'bigoted drivel'. Show me the bigotry please. The stand out bigotry on this site is the anti-catholic bigotry, emanating from intellectual atheists but who in reality are the most hate filled anti-Christians on the internet. If there was such a thing as a 'bigot-o-meter' racists, fascists, Nazis and anti-semites like myself would barely register on it whereas the anti-Cathoics on this place would break it.

Substitute the word Jew for the word Catholic on this site and it would be closed down in the morning.

We give rational, well thought out and factual arguments to back up our beliefs. BG and LW come out with complete nonsense, complete and utter nonsense, yet we are supposed to be the drivelling bigots. I think not.

I could go through LW's response but I don't have the will to wade through her nonsense again. Been there already. I will say though, that just like I laughed at the last sentence in her main article, I had another chortle at the first sentence of her response to Frederick."Well, this guy is clearly a bigot. Anyone who asks a person with an identifiably Jewish surname about Israel, or makes unwarranted comparisons to Israel, is acting as an anti-Semite. "As they say in NY - enough already!

I urge people sitting on the fence re. multi-culturalism to look into what is happening in Sweden right now. Time is running out. The lie of multiculturalism is being found out all across Europe, from our neighbours next door to Scandinavia, to Eastern Europe. Its time to listen to our european neighbours, not self-appointed experts on Ireland from a Jewish background living in NY. Here is a story about what is happening right now to one of our european neighbours. Please listen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EwVnQZTlE

no-go areas in Sweden (there should be a statue made of the the wheelchair hero at 6mins 20 secs)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO9vBHZRBQ4

And Laura and Barry, if you are reading this, what would you say if it was Jewish women being raped by Muslims on an industrial scale, would you be telling them that their idea of nationhood was as Barry might say, 'an imagined community' and to continue throwing open their borders to the invaders.

Are we drivelling bigots when we highlight the mass rape of women and rampant criminality by immigrants next door in England and in Scandinavia? Are we drivelling bigots when we take on the propagandists of multiculturalism like BG and LS? I don't think so Anthony. We are defending our nation. We are defending our women. That's what nationalists do. Defend their area. You and plenty of folk in your community/tribe/nation did it once.

Reminding these people that I am American, not Israeli, has no impact. Nor do they care that I never comment on Israel or Palestine, as I don’t have enough knowledge of the issues to make intelligent remarks on the subject. To them, I’m “a Jew” because my surname is Weinstein, and that’s all that matters.

I don't care what your last name is. If you aren't happy with it go and change it. If you like it keep it. Can you do me one small favour and tell the world why (as Frank Dub pointed out), you simply lied. You can not chalk it up very economical with the truth. I have serious problems with you saying you don't have enough knowledge to comment on Israel or Palestine....Yet if you or any one open's this link, it says exactly this (copy/paste)..

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"Gene flow as a result of immigration prevents the negative impact of inbreeding. But, go ahead and constrain migration & gene flow if you want to create a race of humans that reflects the neuroticism of “pure bred” dogs. Just be sure to hold a referendum on inbreeding first."

Laura has every right to her positions but she really ought keep it straight, keep it straight and avoid wrestling with pigs; she needs to wise up and stop giving oxygen to these xenophobes with her own juvenile taunts ... such behaviour merely entertains the pigs!

(Maybe though she doesn't know about "No blacks, no dogs and no Irish")

It is not anti-Catholic to oppose Church mandated control of women's fertility and bodies. It is not an attack on anyone's personal faith which I will always defend the right to do so. Many Catholic legislators such as Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and many in Ireland have no difficulty in reconciling their private religious beliefs with ensuring that they do not encroach into the sphere of civil society.

"We are defending our women"; so you own women then. But do you view women as autonomous human beings with the agency to make their own choioces or as breeding machines (Victor Orban style for and the transmitter of patriarchal cultural values for the Gaelic master race, Uncle Lydia.

You made a prettty bad job of defending the thousands and thousands of women who were physically and sexually abused down the years in the Catholic Church's carceral archipeligo of Magdalen Laundries, Nazereth orphanages, industrial schools etc.

The mass rapes of women and girls in so many English cities was not perpetrated by recent immigrants but by second or third generation of men of South Asian heritage whose traditional Pakistani village culture had a proprietrial and misoygynistic attitude to women is not dissimilar to your views. These monstrous crimes were prosecuted to their utmost without fear or favour by the North West Senior Prosecutor who is a Muslim Asian.

These poor, vulnerable girls from the care system were simply not believed by police and social services as they saw them as girls of low morals who made "lifestyle choices" at the age of 14 to go out and be exploited by men in their 30s and older. Similarly the generations of "fallen women" interned and abused by the Irish patriarchy were not believed by official, respectable Ireland.

I think your opposition to multiculturalism is really opposition to miscenagation though you are too clever to say so as racists do not make their hatred of "the other" explicit these days but camouflage it by euphimisms such as "multiculturalism".

Yes, I am an Irishman resident in Englang/Britain as there are thousands and thousands of others both in Blighty and Stateside and Australia. Ever wonder why that might be?

What you both write is nauseating and stretches the free inquiry ethos of this weblog to its outer limits.

Barry - it often seems that arguments that you disagree with tend to stretch the free inquiry of this blog to its limits. More than anyone else you raise objections. Free inquiry isn't really free if there is a reluctance to stretch it to its limits. Given how easily you have disposed of the arguments of Nationalists Ireland, I wonder why you risk undermining you own position by complaining about the limits of free inquiry.The policy here is simple: ideas in, insults out. Sometimes the lines get blurred but usually there is more than one in the mix when that happens.Twice Frederick's comments were passed to a team of three to decide if they constituted a breach of the ethos here. Twice the response was no. It doesn't really matter what I might think of the comments, I don't rule on them - but pass them onto others and from the outset of the policy have agreed to be bound by their decision. Incidentally, the three people would be diametrically opposed to the positions advocated by Nationalists Ireland, but they are asked to make their judgement on other grounds. Nothing written by Frank Dub was even considered as being in breach. The author of the above article is entitled to ask for no comments from people who do not stand over what they say by use of a moniker. She has not asked for that. All named authors can make the same request and it will be met on the grounds that invisible people have invisible rights. Named authors should not request that remarks from named commenters be prohibited. The request would not be met.

On a less serious level, I no longer blame you for being a Leeds supporter - it is in your genes!! Guess that explains my passion for LFC. Must be a mutant gene attacking my Irishness and prohibiting me supporting Shamrock Rovers or St Patrick's Athletic!

Actually being a Leeds supporter is, for me, probably an example of sublimated nationalism or religion (I cannot speak for your allegiance to Liverpool)! Leeds fans like all football fans have their own specific narratives incorporating victimhood, real or imagined, foundational myths and "others" (in our case and maybe, yours Manchester United). Unfortunately we all have bitter memories (in our case two European trophies stolen from us in the 1970s) and, worse still, martyrs - in our case the two supporters murdered in Istanbul before a UEFA Cup semi-final in 2000 and, in your case, the greatest football injustice of all.

We all grew up at a time when local football was (and still is) poor and that is why we opted for teams across the Irish Sea despite the levels of hostility to the Brtish state among the CNR populace. For tnose of us living West of the Bann, the loss of Derry City deprived us of any meaningful local football allegiance.

I have to say that being a football supporter is not always good for one's mental health!

Ok, Anthony I will refrain from debating with Alt-Right figues on this blog in the future and leave them to stand for the rubbish they are. But some of the comments I find genuinely scary.

Good luck against the Toon tommorrow. We must get back to winnning ways at our Yorkshire rivals lunchtime Sunday.

Barry - there is no biological reason why we should have nationalist genes and not soccer club ones.

I was a Glentoran fan and saw them in a 2-2 draw with Derry at the Oval when I was very young. Think it was my first Glens game.

Debate with whoever you like Barry, or ignore whoever you like. My own view is that if they say something interesting, engage: if not, ignore. The ideas of Nationalists Ireland don't get much traction but it is always dangerous to ban ideas. Was talking to a guy in Dublin yesterday about free speech and he said totally but not for fascists. I disagreed with him. I think it is dangerous to accuse people of fascism for expressing a concern no matter how wrong we might think they are.

When you talk about abortion and LGBT reform being pushed by every globalist organisation,

Here is an idea Barry why don't you simply replace your poster of Hillary with a poster of Dr Mc Closkey and the fearless Jess poster, replace it with a Dr Joanna Williams poster. If you go back and refresh your mind what Dr. Mc Closkey said on TPQ about The Left And The Eighth you should come back factoring things into the abortion equation that you seldom/never do. I take on board your paper on your blog about “The Eighth Amendment and Human Rights Standards “. After reading both again, Anne Mc Closkey get my vote. The Anne Mc Closkey's on this rock are often the only people who are thinking rationally when a patient says she is pregnant. I doubt Anne would suggest her patient who may be having mental health issues due to her un-wanted pregnancy read a peer reviewed paper. She would offer councilling, offer possibilities that will have a different outcome other than a termination, For at least the past 25years Dr Mc Closkey has do deal with teenagers telling her they are pregnant, victims of domestic violence arrives explaining their abusive partner raped them several weeks ago and their period is late, incest, fatal foetal abnormality to a married mother/single woman explaining she went to a hens night, got squiffy and had unprotected sex with a stranger and she is pregnant and everything in between including IVF, miscarriages and they nearly all ask her for the quickest abortion. When you wrote your piece about 'the 8th, abortion etc', did you ask men for their experience? Did you try and factor in men to your equation? I have read your piece and you didn't. I have had two women tell me they are pregnant and one I talked into having an abortion, a decision I regret to this day and the other I talked her out of having an abortion. Today my son is18...The argument you make about how it is all about the women and men have no input etc...It is total bollicks.

Sometimes Barry, women are forced into having an abortion for organ donations, stem cell research, private companies make loads on aborted foetus being kept alive for up to a week, some of abortions Barry end up being sacrificed Dr Mc Closkey mentioned it in passing by saying...

Of course the commonest “fatal foetal abnormality” worldwide is that of being female. There are over one hundred million females missing because of sex –selective foeticide. But you won’t hear the sisters talking about that.

Who can forget when Jess Phillips laughed at men's rights debate request....Barry I don't care about the sexuality of who ever is abused, has mental health issues or other. Jess does. To her it is all about women's rights..I care more about human rights, not the gender. A lot of men, like women suffer in silence and it should not be laughed at or as Jess tried to do, play politics with the subject of mens health issues, domestic violence...

In a very short space of time we have moved from the premise that men and women exist as fundamentally distinct biological entities with tolerance shown to a small minority of people who chose to live differently, to transgenderism as an ideology that insists all aspects of public life must comply with its demands....

You should take my advice and change your poster girls for my suggestions. At least both Dr Anne Mc Closkey and Dr Joanna Williams don't have hidden agendas, care about women's health, speak out about the sexualization of children...

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Anthony McIntyre

Former IRA volunteer and ex-prisoner, spent 18 years in Long Kesh, 4 years on the blanket and no-wash/no work protests which led to the hunger strikes of the 80s. Completed PhD at Queens upon release from prison. Left the Republican Movement at the endorsement of the Good Friday Agreement, and went on to become a journalist. Co-founder of The Blanket, an online magazine that critically analyzed the Irish peace process. Lead researcher for the Belfast Project, an oral history of the Troubles.