A fair place to start, I suppose. To answer this, I'll take you back to last November. I still remember the feeling I had leaving FedEx Field after the Packers blowout loss to Washington. They were 4-6, with consecutive blowout defeats, and the season was clearly on the brink. I remember thinking their season is not over, but they couldn't lose again. And that is pretty close to the feeling entering Chicago. No, the Packers season isn't quite over, this let's be real: they need to beat the Bears if they're to be given any real chance of remaining in contention. Because the Bears are one of the worst teams remaining on their schedule. Last year, with their backs against the wall, the Packers ran the table. Last year, they had Aaron Rodgers. A different story this year.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:05:09 PM

Whatvis this offenses identity? Read option? Up tempo? Under center?

by Matt11/7/2017 7:05:24 PM

They don't have one right now.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:05:30 PM

As soon as Rodgers went down a best case scenario would have been the Pack finishing at 8-8. Not going to happen now. Its now obvious that Hundley is not ready Maybe he never will be. So why not accept the fact that this season is over, give the young players more time and see what you have. Capers defense is just not getting it done any longer. Well you can't cut 25 players so Capers will be history. Let TT restock the team, find another defensive guru and hopefully we can focus on getting to the SB on a softer schedule.

by JimmyA11/7/2017 7:06:06 PM

I wouldn't say 8-8 won't happen now. It's probably the very best-case scenario, but there are four winnable games remaining on the schedule: at Chicago, home vs. Baltimore, home vs. Tampa Bay and at Cleveland. If the Packers win those games, they're 8-6 entering the final two against Minnesota and Detroit. There's a chance they could be in contention enough for Aaron Rodgers to return then. But, in reality, this is a very remote possibility. And there's absolutely no guarantee they're beating Chicago, Baltimore, Tampa Bay and Cleveland.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:07:54 PM

Greetings, Ryan. With the loss, we currently sit at the #17 spot in the 2018 draft. We must, I repeat, MUST, surround Rodgers will all the talent we can. Am I wrong to think the season's effectively over and that we should aim for as high of a pick as we can get?

by Adam11/7/2017 7:08:11 PM

That type of thinking is still premature if you ask me, but it might be only one week away. Certainly, this is a team lacking for talent at many places, even some premier spots like edge rushers. Drafting early in rounds could help. The last time that happened was 2009, and the Packers won a Super Bowl the next season.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:09:33 PM

Hi,,, Hundley looked decent on his 2 drives where he threw downfield some. What went wrong on the other drives in your opinion?

by Paul11/7/2017 7:09:46 PM

The Lions weren't playing prevent defense.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:09:54 PM

What is wrong with Jake Ryan? He seems invisible out there. Not even sure he is playing half the time, is he?

by Poochie11/7/2017 7:10:04 PM

Well, there's a reason he looks invisible. Blake Martinez passed him on the depth chart weeks ago, and the Packers have been playing a safety at their other ILB spot in the nickel. Martinez played all 68 snaps last night; Ryan played 18 (26 percent).

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:11:27 PM

McCarthey has defended his quarterback room by stating the number of years he has had developing them. Does this statement alone force the Packers to remain status quo?

by Barry11/7/2017 7:12:04 PM

There isn't a better option at quarterback outside the franchise, if that's what you're asking.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:12:17 PM

I thought Matt Hassleback's post game comments were spot on. To paraphrase he said, "During the week you have no idea what kind of defense Capers will call but once the game starts you know exactly what's coming."

by Rudy11/7/2017 7:12:40 PM

I get the criticism for Dom Capers. It's well deserved, considering this is his defense, and it hasn't played well since about 2015. But here's the bottom line: the Packers have zero pass rush, and they'll continue to struggle stopping anybody until they do, regardless who is calling their defense.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:14:23 PM

Capers might as well hold up a sign on the sideline saying: "we're blitzing!!!"

I think the problem is def, too much pressure on offense to make points

by pc11/7/2017 7:15:03 PM

That offense is putting plenty of pressure on the defense, too.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:15:12 PM

Ryan, let's be honest, the Packers just don't have that much talent across their roster. If this season continues on the downward trajectory with failures in all phases of the game, does that force Murphy's hand to make changes next year?

by Lare11/7/2017 7:15:30 PM

Probably not, because this is the Packers, but lets follow this hypothetical through. Let's say the Packers continue to plummet, fall in the draft's top 10, and have a chance to reset their roster with premier picks. Let's say this becomes their most important offseason in the decade, because of the rarity that an annual contender drafts high. Let's say they need to hit big on that draft, because Aaron Rodgers isn't getting any younger. Does it make sense, then, for there to be a change at GM? Some younger blood? A fresh perspective? Yeah, that would make sense to me.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:17:27 PM

Ryan- Replace Mike McCarthy with a *Defensive* minded coach (and coordinator) and send Mike and Dom packing? Thoughts? Mike's ceiling seems to be good record and a premature playoff exit. The Superbowl looks like an abberation.

by Aaron from MI11/7/2017 7:17:58 PM

I don't see Mike McCarthy's job being in jeopardy at all, no matter where this season ends up. Sorry to disappoint you.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:18:19 PM

It was a mistake to pay Perry. Will they make the same mistake with Mathews? Should they clean house and get rid of the plodding defenders like Dix, Burnett, Ryan, Rollins, etc.? Good players maybe but too slow. Really, a team of rookies could do this well.

by blz11/7/2017 7:18:41 PM

There's zero mystery that the No. 1 glaring need on this entire roster is productive pass rushers. They need to get younger there. They need to hit that heavily in the draft. Which they needed to do this past spring, and they waited until the fourth round to draft their only edge rusher, who had a history of a broken foot and then broke his foot and landed on PUP. So, you know...

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:19:58 PM

With Bulaga's ACL injury. Is this the end of the line for him in Green Bay?

by Bongo11/7/2017 7:20:09 PM

Too early to answer that yet, but his won't be an easy recovery. He's already damaged his left knee multiple times, including a torn ACL in 2013. Now a torn ACL in his right knee, which is the anchor leg for a right tackle. A damn tough blow for Bulaga, for sure.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:21:05 PM

I think Matthews has to be released or restructured after the season. The Packers simply can't pay him $13M to a guy who is invisible out there on defense- except his once a game offsides penatly.

by Bill11/7/2017 7:21:36 PM

This much is clear: the Packers banked on Clay Matthews being able to carry their pass rush, and he hasn't come close.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:21:57 PM

Do you see both 87&18 on roster next season?

by Matt11/7/2017 7:22:04 PM

Probably. But they could use a No. 1 receiver, and neither of them qualifies as that. Nor does 17. I don't think they'll prioritize that high in the draft. There are other, much more glaring needs on this roster. But I think they'll be scouting the WR class.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:23:35 PM

Say Capers is done this year. What direction should the Packers go in? Retread NFL DC, or college DC ex: Bud Foster

by Demario Pratt11/7/2017 7:23:57 PM

They have the personnel for a 3-4, so that would make sense. But it would behoove them to hire a visionary who can see where the defensive game is headed, with speed being prioritized on the second level.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:24:50 PM

Ryan...should a "highly successful head coach" be able to have his team ready to play after a bye-week?

by Mac11/7/2017 7:25:53 PM

Depends on if he has a highly successful quarterback.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:26:07 PM

How does New England do it year after year. Is it always the players or does it ever reflect on the coach?

by Mike11/7/2017 7:26:27 PM

Because New England is an extreme outlier. There isn't another organization in the game like them.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:26:55 PM

Why does McCarthy continue to run bubble screens that never work? And why on Earth do you run a jet sweep on 4th & 2? The play calls have been puzzling at times....and never giving Hundley a chance to win

by Joe11/7/2017 7:27:24 PM

Man, the screen game is bad right now. And that fourth-and-2 was odd, but the Packers clearly thought they could target something against the Lions defense. But let's be clear: the Packers are absolutely, positively not losing because of play calling.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:28:08 PM

the offense has nothing to do with the def not forcing a punt

by pc11/7/2017 7:28:16 PM

No, but the Packers recovering a Lions fumble had something to do with it. So lets not take facts out of context to skew false narratives. Was the defense bad last night? Absolutely. Its offense didn't help.

by Ryan Wood11/7/2017 7:29:18 PM

On a positive note- I did notice the again good play of Blake Martinez and what might appear to be development of a shut down corner in King

by Bill11/7/2017 7:29:36 PM

Kevin King did pretty well when covering Marvin Jones. He was the only one. Blake Martinez is doing well, and the defensive line is pretty decent. There are some positives. Some.