Aside from the logistics of opening a bar, there’s the challenge of stocking it with great craft beer. As Ben Wiley notes in the show, “Finding new beers is 10 percent of the job; making sure (the beer) shows up and it’s the right beer, that’s 90 percent.”

Certainly the number of craft beer bars and the number of craft brewers has created a “local revolution” of sorts. Whereas a few years ago, the West Coast breweries really were the only game, now there are many great East Coast breweries, although differences remain between attitudes (west = pretty chill; east = breaking a sweat to make great beer) and styles.

The great group of bar owners and brewers on this episode talk “cool ship,” collaborative brewing and weird beers. Listen in or download at iTunes.