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The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions." --American Statesman Daniel Webster (1782-1852)

Sunday, August 24, 2014

Difference between AR-15 and AK 47....and Nagants

I saw a video while I was surfing YouTube. I saw the difference between the M-16, and the AK 47. It was a very educational video. I have fired both kinds and still own one of them. I was trained on the M-16 pattern rifle, I am very comfortable with that platform. I know it's strength, I know its weaknesses.

Here is the latest incarnation of this rifle. Like I said, I love the versatility of this rifle. This rifle has gone through 3 changes since I bought it back in 1991. I still am considering buying a shorty stock and a shorty barrel. My Brother who is used to the M-4 platform calls my rifle "A Musket" due to the length.

This is my same rifle that had the same style for 15 years. Tactically not such a good configuration. I had changed the barrel to an A-2 barrel with the same style handgrips, pistol grips and rear stock.

This is the rifle back in original configuration that I bought it back in 1991. I had kept all the old parts when I upgraded.

I have also owned an AK-47 type rifle for several years back in the mid 90's. But I had to sell it to pay some bills. I hated doing it, and basically I had to choose which rifle I had to give up. I liked the rifle, I liked the reliability and the ease of use of the AK-47 pattern rifle, it is an easy rifle to shoot and operate.

I also own a Mosin Nagant, I bought this rifle back in the late 90's. This rifle was made in the Soviet Armory in the Urals, when the Germans invaded, the Soviets moved whole industries across the urals to protect it against the fascisti invaders. This rifle is classified as a model 31/59

This rifle Model 1891/59 Carbine: Commonly called "91/59s," the M1891/59s
were created by shortening M1891/30 rifles to carbine length, with rear
sight numbers partially ground off to reflect reduced range. These
rifles are almost clones of the M38 except for the ground off M91/30
rear sight.
The "1891/59" marking on the receiver suggests the carbines were
created in or after 1959. It was initially thought that Bulgaria or
another Soviet satellite country performed the conversions in
preparation for a Western invasion that never came. Recent evidence
suggests that the M91/59 was indeed produced in Bulgaria from
Soviet-supplied wartime production M91/30s. Total production of the
91/59 is uncertain; figures as low as one million and as high as three
million have appeared in the firearms magazines.

A lot of people disparage the Mosin type rifles as " Old.......obsolete...can't survive against a modern assault rifle.." I disagree, this rifle will work when all other will not. Also the 7.62X54R round is no slouch, It will flat out knock down anybody it hits. Also the recoil is rough compared to the AR pattern and AK pattern rifles. Another reason for the rifle is you could rearm your tribe with a few Nagants for extra rifles until newer rifles are acquired. Then you can put the rifles back in storage until the next time.

This is the video I saw that started this post.....so there:P.....

I remembered posting this when I first started blogging.

AK vs. AR vs. Mosin Nagant
Written by Head of the old Headsbunker.com, also known as "Ezra Coli" on the
various message boards.

There's an ever present, unending debate over which is best, ARs or AKs,
raging across the internet and in gun shops every day sending bile and bitter insults
spewing both ways. This debate has turned fathers against sons, best friends against one
another, and........well you get the point. The author is of the opinion that there are of
course pros and cons to each family of rifle, and I refuse to engage in what is
"best". As one who loves them all, especially the AK and AR series, I
thought I'd pass on some of the knowledge I have gained over the years concerning these
wildly different weapons. As a bonus, I'll toss in my knowledge of another favorite
family of weapons at the Bunker, just because they are very popular these days and I often
ramble about them. So, here, for the aid of those hammering one another in the
debate, is some unbiased, non-slanted, untainted raw knowledge about the AK, the AR, and
the Mosin Nagant.

Stuff you know if you have an AK

Stuff you know if you have an AR

Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant

It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.

You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent
synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.

It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.

You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from
inside.

You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from
600 meters.

You can hit the farm from two counties over.

Cheap mags are fun to buy.

Cheap mags melt.

What's a mag?

Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.

You can silently flip off the safety with your
finger on the trigger.

What's a safety?

Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.

Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical
suspension system.

You rifle has dog collars.

Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.

Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak
knife.

Your bayonet is longer than your leg.

You can put a .30" hole through 12" of
oak, if you can hit it.

You can put one hole in a paper target at 100
meters with 30 rounds.

You can knock down everyone else's target with
the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.

When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass
as a club.

When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle
bat.

When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war
club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.

Recoil is manageable, even fun.

What's recoil?

Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown
out by the previous shot.

Late at night you sometimes have to fight the
urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"

Late at night you sometimes have to fight the
urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.

Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the
urge to dig a fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.

There you have it. In
the end, it is clear to any open minded inquirer that the Mosin Nagant is the most
superior weapon of all time, but the AR and the AK come out as a draw when compared side
by side.

Those shorter Mosins pack a heck of a lot of recoi and spit fire like a dragon. The full length 91-30 delivers a punch as well. I put a rubber recoil boot on the butt end of mine, and it helps some. If you ever see it at one of the online ammo sellers, pick up some to the Czech training ammo in 7.62 x 54r. It has a hollow bullet and recoil on par with a .223, maybe less. It's good out to about 200 yards.

I seemed to have extra AR parts laying around. All I need to get is a lower receiver and I will have a second AR:) Hey Old NFO Thanks Hey Doug, I will look for it. I never knew about training ammo for the Nagants. It would be nice to pay attention to accuracy rather than relocating my shoulder after I fire;)

Ammo

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