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Rain Partier

Jubilee wrote:That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Rain Partier

Jubilee wrote:That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Son of Stein

Punchy wrote:It's ridiculous to try and apply rules or logic to time-travel.

Read Marvel Two-In-One #50. It literally is the exact plot that AU is heading to.

Ben has a cure in the present that will only work on his younger self - so what if Ben gives it to his younger self?Ultron has taken over the planet and can't be stopped - but what if Pym was stopped before he accidently created Ultron?

Ben goes back in time and change things to make a new reality in his present.Sue & Wolverine go back in time and change things to make a new reality in their present.

Ben returns home and finds nothing has changed and he created an alternate timeline.Sue & Wolverine return home and find everything has changed and the world is okey-dokey again.

In a world where sometimes things go up, they should follow the rule (and logic) that they will also come down.

Son of Stein

Punchy wrote:It's ridiculous to try and apply rules or logic to time-travel.

Read Marvel Two-In-One #50. It literally is the exact plot that AU is heading to.

Ben has a cure in the present that will only work on his younger self - so what if Ben gives it to his younger self?Ultron has taken over the planet and can't be stopped - but what if Pym was stopped before he accidently created Ultron?

Ben goes back in time and change things to make a new reality in his present.Sue & Wolverine go back in time and change things to make a new reality in their present.

Ben returns home and finds nothing has changed and he created an alternate timeline.Sue & Wolverine return home and find everything has changed and the world is okey-dokey again.

In a world where sometimes things go up, they should follow the rule (and logic) that they will also come down.

DANG!

Jubilee wrote:That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Amoebas likes things unchanging and set in stone. Haven't you noticed that?

DANG!

Jubilee wrote:That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Amoebas likes things unchanging and set in stone. Haven't you noticed that?

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

DANG!

You could argue that the Marvel rules on Time Travel got altered with Age of Apocalypse or House of M or any of the other reality changing dramas.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

3MJ

by 3MJ » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:59 am

Iregaurdless of your attempts to get me into petty disputes Amoebas I will never accept that characters are more important than story. I think it's important these characters get a soft update every decade or so to fit them into the wider world.

3MJ

Iregaurdless of your attempts to get me into petty disputes Amoebas I will never accept that characters are more important than story. I think it's important these characters get a soft update every decade or so to fit them into the wider world.