Ok, so you are all probably pretty tired of hearing about Wikileaks, but I thought we could have a discussion about Mr. Assange and his website. Do you think his website is good/bad? Do you agree with his purpose in releasing documents (more transparent world/justice/etc.)?

Personally, I find him fucking unbearable. Not least because every time I turn the news on, I hear his name. I honestly wouldn't care if he was locked up or conveniently went 'missing', a certain level of secrecy is necessary within government. Oh and him and his followers seem to have a very severe case of unwarranted self-importance.

I agree. There's people that want to know every fucking detail of what the government has up its sleeve.

I always look at it from the angle of: If every person in the US knew all about the technology behind our most advanced military equipment, it wouldn't stay a secret very long and other countries (including enemies) would make their own. Then we wouldn't be on top so a lot of good that would do.

I'm sure the US and other governments do all kinds of things that aren't considered "right". Some things should be made public but not everything.

No, he was wearing a condom which split during sex and "either failed to inform his partner or continued after being asked to stop." It does seem a bit too convenient to me though given the amount of people that would probably benefit from his silence.

No, he was wearing a condom which split during sex and "either failed to inform his partner or continued after being asked to stop." It does seem a bit too convenient to me though given the amount of people that would probably benefit from his silence.

I'd be a serial rapist then. I stopped using condoms after all the breaks I've experienced. Half the time, you don't even realize it. Besides, I'd just rather spray their face anyway.

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THE CHARGES * Unlawful coercion - used his body weight to hold down Miss A in a sexual manner. * Sexual molestation - had unprotected sex with Miss A when she had insisted on him using a condom * Deliberate molestation - molested Miss A "in a way designed to violate her sexual integrity". * Had unprotected sex with Miss W while she was asleep

I honestly wouldn't care if he was locked up or conveniently went 'missing', a certain level of secrecy is necessary within government. Oh and him and his followers seem to have a very severe case of unwarranted self-importance.

I agree with you. Some of the leaks was probably okay, but most of it should not be public.Wikileaks are making diplomacy much more difficult. Diplomats must be allowed to communicate without risk of having the letters made public.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to make a topic about this. He isn't being arrested for leaking the documents, he was being released for raping some girl. I don't think he raped the girl, since prior to the wiki-leaks releasing the cables they were just set to drop the case.

The guy is a douche bag anyway, and this is what you get for being a douche bag. Go USA!

Also, I think that this kind of ruins it for everyone who believes that the United States is engaged in conspiracies regarding aliens or 9/11. If they can't keep mundane shit about how one diplomat feels about another secret, if they give this kind of "classified" information out to people that don't need it (some dipshit intelligence officer in Iraq) then there is no fucking way they could keep the biggest secret of all time secret. Or maybe that's what "they" want you to think.

Hey, anything that nudges the clock closer to zero hour and a flaming nuclear apocalypse has my vote. I mean, really. What exactly do you hope to accomplish by releasing state secrets? That people just relax and take a drink of water and everythings ok? Fuck no. He is encouraging a new global conflict, that's all.

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QUOTE (Qdeathstar @ Mar 13 2009, 01:45 AM)

The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

Hey, anything that nudges the clock closer to zero hour and a flaming nuclear apocalypse has my vote. I mean, really. What exactly do you hope to accomplish by releasing state secrets? That people just relax and take a drink of water and everythings ok? Fuck no. He is encouraging a new global conflict, that's all.

Or those global conflicts already existed and now the public just knows. That's all.

Apparently Assange's supporters hacked/crashed VISA's online systems last night and are planning to do the same to twitter. How convenient, just when the U.S government is trying to push through internet censorship laws. The elite always turn a 'crisis' round to suit their nazi agenda's. If they're not attacking their own people they're letting real enemies get through.

As far as I know, all they did was bring down the websites with DDoS attacks, which any 15 year old on the chans can do. I haven't seen anything about their systems going down, just statements that their payments are still going through even though the website is down.

Apparently Assange's supporters hacked/crashed VISA's online systems last night and are planning to do the same to twitter. How convenient, just when the U.S government is trying to push through internet censorship laws.