You do not need the plan to simply make calls over a wireless Internet connection.
Dave

I couldn't make *any* call via wi-fi. None! Calls I made dropped after two seconds or so. Only with h@H that I am able to call. My situation might be unique but that's my story and I am sticking with it

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I couldn't make *any* call via wi-fi. None! Calls I made dropped after two seconds or so. Only with h@H that I am able to call. My situation might be unique but that's my story and I am sticking with it

That most likely has more to do with your router than with the BB or the UMA service.

I think itxxx8217;s the old Root Certificate and Trust Certificate. Go to help (the yellow?) on the device and go to the BlackBerry HELP! website. The first link is xxx8220;HotSpot @ home (UMA) not working on my BlackBerry Curve 8320xxx8221; follow that link and download new Root Certificate and Trust Certificate. If you used the device switch tool, of did a backup and restore of an older device then old Certificate were copped to the new device.

I think it’s the old Root Certificate and Trust Certificate. Go to help (the yellow?) on the device and go to the BlackBerry HELP! website. The first link is “HotSpot @ home (UMA) not working on my BlackBerry Curve 8320” follow that link and download new Root Certificate and Trust Certificate. If you used the device switch tool, of did a backup and restore of an older device then old Certificate were copped to the new device.

That is exactly what I did after I "transferred my settings" from my 7100t to the Curve 8320. After the certificates were installed, I had to power cycle it completely (battery out and back in). Then the "UMA" showed up and I am now able to make and receive calls via WiFI (the T-Mobile GSM/GPRS/EDGE signal by my house sucks, only 1 bar 90% of the time). So now via WiFI it is great!

Keep in mind that your minutes are free only when using at your home or any other t-mobile hot spot, not just any other open network.

No .. they are free if you have the hotspot@home plan and then u can be on any wi-fi network. if you dont have the hotspot@home plan then they will free as per your monthly plan .. eg .nights and weekends in most cases

Keep in mind that your minutes are free only when using at your home or any other t-mobile hot spot, not just any other open network.

Actually I believe it's any wifi. We just signed up and only had 104 minutes used on our monthly plan and had over 1000 minutes on wifi usage. Which means that all my calls are free at work which is just a hot spot for our work, not T-Mobile.

that is correct,
if you have the HotSpot @Home add on to your plan, any time you INITIATE a call on UMA those calls are unlimited.
it works in reverse too, if you initiate a call on the towers and walk in to your house, and switch over to UMA, that call will be billed how it was initiated... and it will come out of your bucket of mins.

you do not have to have the @home add on to your plan to utilize UMA, you will utilize your bucket of mins, but can still take advantage of the reception you get in your home / work's WIFI signal

Ok, I must be a blonde when it comes to my new Blackberry Curve 8320. Have the same problems as I've read above and on various other threads.... can't seem to connect to the wifi. The phone seems to recognise the BT home hub that I am using, but the little icon in the Manage connections bit is still yellow with a line through.
I have tried the full wipe then selective restore.... still no change, although I am getting EDGE intermittantly (more off than on)
Can anyone recommend anything?
On the whole, the 8320 works fine, I get my emails (I think via GPRS?) and it does all i need it to, I'm not a heavy internet browser on the blackberry (I'm on Orange and really dont want to run over my 6mb target) and I'm generally happy with it.... but I feel like its got more capability and if I could sort out the WIFI i'd like to browse more and save my orange data for when I have no other choice. Does that make sense?????
Jo

I have an 8320 which was from orange UK, I have since had it unlocked and am using my T-Mobile UK Sim card in it which is on web and walk and have the Blackberry data plan enabled.

I am able to use wi-fi for internet and for emails but I have never had UMA on my phone?
when I check my wifi diagnostic it says UMA wi-fi Available with a green tick next to it but has a red cross for connection? Error status is problem with ISP or T-Mobile network?
Can anyone help me? Do I need to do anything to my router? I am using the BT Home Hub.

I have an 8320 which was from orange UK, I have since had it unlocked and am using my T-Mobile UK Sim card in it which is on web and walk and have the Blackberry data plan enabled.

I am able to use wi-fi for internet and for emails but I have never had UMA on my phone?
when I check my wifi diagnostic it says UMA wi-fi Available with a green tick next to it but has a red cross for connection? Error status is problem with ISP or T-Mobile network?
Can anyone help me? Do I need to do anything to my router? I am using the BT Home Hub.

Thanks

You can't get UMA on a provider's network while using another provider's branded BB. It just won't work. Wifi should work but you'll never see UMA.

OK, this is driving me crazy and having me waste a lot of time. First, let me say that UMA works fine outside of my house. However, at home I have Verizon FIOS with an Actiontec MI424-WR router and people I call from home while on UMA can hear me talking but I cannot hear them. I first spent almost 2 hours on the phone with TMo and got nowhere other than their changing the channel on my router. I then spent about 30 minutes with a helpful FIOS tech who went through many steps with me all to no avail. I then called back TMo and they suggested that I get their Linksys H@H router and bridge it to the Actiontec. Did that--I got the Linksys WRT54G-TM H@H router, bridged it onto my Actiontec and no change--still one way audio. I then spent about 2.5 hours on the phone last Saturday with upper level H@H support who then got an upper level person at Actiontec on the line. After fooling with various settings, the end result was no solution. The TMo guy was intent on having the Linksys act as the router but we could not do that because I have FIOS over coax. Further, the Actiontec guy--in response to the TMo guy asking how to get the Actiontec to just pass through the FIOS data without filtering it (if that makes any sense)--said that Verizon disables a setting which would allow complete pass through of the FIOS signal to the Linksys router which further prevented my being able to use the service. The TMo guy also mentioned that he has been able to do that type of work around in TX but for whatever reason, the CA Actiontec router cannot be adjusted that way. So, the TMo guy said that the bottom line solution is for my coax to be replaced with ethernet and then to get rid of the Actiontec altogether. Can this be correct? There must be a setting somewhere that is preventing me from hearing people at home--especially since UMA works fine outside of my house proving to me that it is a router set up issue, no? AHHHH!

OK, this is driving me crazy and having me waste a lot of time. First, let me say that UMA works fine outside of my house. However, at home I have Verizon FIOS with an Actiontec MI424-WR router and people I call from home while on UMA can hear me talking but I cannot hear them. I first spent almost 2 hours on the phone with TMo and got nowhere other than their changing the channel on my router. I then spent about 30 minutes with a helpful FIOS tech who went through many steps with me all to no avail. I then called back TMo and they suggested that I get their Linksys H@H router and bridge it to the Actiontec. Did that--I got the Linksys WRT54G-TM H@H router, bridged it onto my Actiontec and no change--still one way audio. I then spent about 2.5 hours on the phone last Saturday with upper level H@H support who then got an upper level person at Actiontec on the line. After fooling with various settings, the end result was no solution. The TMo guy was intent on having the Linksys act as the router but we could not do that because I have FIOS over coax. Further, the Actiontec guy--in response to the TMo guy asking how to get the Actiontec to just pass through the FIOS data without filtering it (if that makes any sense)--said that Verizon disables a setting which would allow complete pass through of the FIOS signal to the Linksys router which further prevented my being able to use the service. The TMo guy also mentioned that he has been able to do that type of work around in TX but for whatever reason, the CA Actiontec router cannot be adjusted that way. So, the TMo guy said that the bottom line solution is for my coax to be replaced with ethernet and then to get rid of the Actiontec altogether. Can this be correct? There must be a setting somewhere that is preventing me from hearing people at home--especially since UMA works fine outside of my house proving to me that it is a router set up issue, no? AHHHH!

I have Fios with an Actiontec router and mine works fine. I can get calls over the Actiontec wifi, but it is not really a reliable connection qualitywise so I have a Linksys attached.

There are settings in the Actiontec to prioritize the wifi, but the Linksys can also be prioritized. When I get a chance I'll see what I've got on my router. It actually didn't take more than one or two check boxes to get it to work ok. One annoying thing is I've prioritized my Paket8 VOIP box and my Curve so regular internet browsing is impacted. Links sometimes take 2 or 3 attempts to start loading. Downloading files also sometimes takes a few tries.

There is some way to port forward which I believe routes the connection straight through. But I don't understand how to get that done. I think the ports for Tmobile UMA are actuall a range which is why I've never been able to understand it. The help file at Actiontec walks through setting up a specific address.

I checked and under Advanced Options, then Quality of Service on the left side you can prioritize the devices.

Another thing ocurred to me. The Verizon box where the fiber optics line comes to the building has a network connection in it. Mine is hooked up via coax coming from that box but it'll work via a network connection as well. I've considered plugging the Linksys straight into the box to see if it would connect but haven't gotten around to it. My guess it it wouldn't. But perhaps running a network cable to the Actiontec would be beter than coax.