I talked to Prit he will look into it when he gets home. I can't access the forum at all and all of the .Iso download links are offline. So hang on. I thought he had fixed the old forum already........

I talked to Prit he will look into it when he gets home. I can't access the forum at all and all of the .Iso download links are offline. So hang on. I thought he had fixed the old forum already........

ForWhatItsWorth :
Am
wget -r -np http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/
AtTheMoment
that will take up to tomorrow ..
to use my providers bandwidth for the maximum

At least it seems that e_xkb.c or .h does not have the US keyboard as a fallback compiled in by default, probably it is in compiled into some /root/.e/e/*/*.cfg file(s) .
Older Xorg had some files in /var/lib/xkb/directory but e17 seems not to look into there nor /etc/X11/xorg.conf .

Very nice work, fellas. I use an old machine, almost 10 years old, and this one makes it relatively painless, to my great joy and relief. It goes without saying how wonderfully snazzy it looks, too...All the best!

Something is very wrong, I can't access our forum, I haven't heard back from Prit yet .So until I post here don't download anything from my page or our site.

Yes, seems like the pond-scum fraternity might be active, but who knows? I was able to d/l several themes yesterday, following CatDude's link - thanks 'Dude! - and had no trouble with the forum, but today, the forum's page informed me that i'd been banned! Maybe i'm a tad 'special' too, Rok..? _________________The mud-elephant, wading thru the sea, leaves no tracks..http://russoodlespuppylinuxstuff.net

Talked to Prit again he has things back to normal !!!!! We are back in business.He said we did not get hacked. The problems where caused by server upgrades.So we can put the torches and pitch forks , tar and feathers away.....They really picked the best time to do this!!!!!

Talked to Prit again he has things back to normal !!!!! We are back in business.He said we did not get hacked. The problems where caused by server upgrades.So we can put the torches and pitch forks , tar and feathers away.....They really picked the best time to do this!!!!!

Rats! After i just went and fished them all out of the shed, too..
That's good news though.

As many of you loyal readers are aware, gadgets have always been a bit of a sore spot with me. The reasons for this are many and varied, which is great since I need something to rant about this week. If you’re a normal citizen of the internet who claims to have ADD but really just doesn’t like to read past an introductory level, skip to the bottom for the executive summary.

“Gadgets” in E are insanely complex, and there is no real reason that I can determine as the sole cause (aside from gradual feature creep). Part of this complexity stems from the fact that we have three different types of gadget containers, also known as gadcons: shelves, toolbars (only used in EFM windows), and my eternal nemesis, gadman (desktop/overlay gadgets). Gadcon has a number of interfaces which allow it to theoretically work fine across all three of these, but what really happens is that it turns into a giant kludgefest–everything is propped up by toothpicks to create the illusion that it actually works.

While this awfulness may be transparent to the user, aside from the random crashes here and there and the inability to accurately move gadgets on a shelf (hint: this isn’t going to be fixed), the big downside is that it makes everything gadget-related a huge pain in the ass. Fixing gadget-related bugs is terrible because a tiny change that fixes a bug in one container, such as gadman, could cause a huge change in functionality somewhere else. As an example, I recently did some tweaking to iBar and gadman to make them play more nicely together because iBar didn’t really do that whole “resizing” thing as a desktop gadget, where “resizing” is defined in this case as the ability to make a gadget smaller. The process for fixing this was as follows:

* Test current iBar-gadman functionality
* Determine that iBar doesn’t correctly update its size unless it’s in a shelf
* Try making it update its size normally (min size)
* Desktop iBar fixed, shelf iBar covers my entire screen
* Try alternate method for updating size (aspect)
* Shelf iBar works normally, desktop iBar resizes spastically
* Try adding evas size hints to base gadcon sizing methods
* Shelf iBar works normally, desktop iBar doesn’t appear at all (wtf.)
* I don’t remember the next hour because I blacked out in a coding rage, but the end result is that I had to add max size values to gadget objects which only get set/used by iBar and gadman

So now, to fix a pretty trivial/innocent bug, yet another hack has been added, another toothpick to hold up the tower. Great. I’m sure it will make total sense to anyone else who wants to work on gadgets why iBar is special and uses a max size like this.

Sadly, this isn’t even the worst part of the current gadget debacle. No, the worst part is actually trying to write a gadget using the current system.

language and wifi :
As the keyboard is not changed to azerty, i tried first to correct that via the wizard. And i succeed.
After, checking the macpup posts in Puppy Forum, I read the solutions.
After... It would be fine to get at start up an Abiword file which opens and tells you all that stuff. Easy to do, no ?

Frisbee should be the best to keep the connection data after reboot. Ok, we shall do that.

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