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For out-of-battle usage, I think Surf is very useful. It enables you to reach areas only accessible by the waterways (for example, an island in the middle of a body of water). Who knows? You might find a rare TM there, or an item you really want.

I like Surf the best. Waterfall is good too and Fly is alright. Defog is the absolute worst, though. At least Flash lowered accuracy. But lowering evasiveness? That's...random. And when you'd need to lower that, I mean, you probably wouldn't be able to hit the other Pokemon anyway cause it's evasiveness is too high and you're better off attacking. Even worse is that you practically NEED to use this HM in the fog, otherwise you'll be wasting PP in all the battles because you'll keep missing. Way to annoyingly be useful out of battle. v_v

Surf and Fly are the best HMs, IMO. Surf is not only useful in the field, but in battle as well. While people don't use Fly in battle often competitively, it's still useful for getting to other places quickly.

I think it's hard to determine which HM is the "best" because the effectiveness of the HM depends on a battlers circumstances. Although the HM "surf" seems like the best HM because it is the most powerful and has a 100% accuracy rate, the move surf would hardly do any damage to a grass or electric type pokemon. Furthermore, the move surf would not be the best option in a double battle if you have two pokemon on your side. Although the move "surf" would inflict damage upon both of your enemies' pokemon in a double battle, the move would also harm your second pokemon. Assuming that you desire a strategic move with damage-dealing prowess, I believe that the HM Fly is your best option. When dealing with worthy opponents, naturally you would encounter moves of a higher caliber; moves such as SOLAR BEAM. In order to evade these powerful moves, you can use the HM Fly. Allow me to explain how you can do this. When your enemies' pokemon is charging for attacks such as solar beam, razor wind and sky attack; you can instruct your pokemon to fly into the air thus skillfully avoiding a potential K.O. Not only is Fly helpful in battles, it also allows for fast transportation. If you want to go to Pallet Town to visit your mom, why would you surf there when you could hop on the back of your favorite flightless-bird-inspired pokemon Doduo. That trusty steed.

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Surf. Only Surf. Great in battle and a necessary move to get farther in the game. Fly isn't necessary to, but is awesome to have. It's decent in battle too even if it takes two turns. So 1) Surf and 2) Fly.

Worst has to be Defog. That is quite possibly the dumbest move they ever created through Gen 4. And they made it an HM. For no reason.

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Waterfall, would be my favorite because it is awesome on Pokémon like Feraligatr and Gyarados.
Surf, is good on Empoleon and Blastoise.
And on Starmie, Vaporeon and Swanna.
I prefer, Physical based Water Types.
And i like Fly, on Swanna and Pidgeot.
My favorites would be Fly, Surf and Waterfall.

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Defog! I like Flash personally, I love tricky moves like that which reduce accuracy and it lets Pokémon like Magnemite etc that can't learn Sand-Attack get some more tactical moves. Obviously Flash is banned in competitive battling though, so when it comes to competitive I'll definitely say Surf. It's the only HM that really gets used in competitive battling other than sometimes Waterfall and there's a good reason for this haha. It's mostly just that the other HMs are outclassed by other moves; Strength has Return, Rock Smash has Brick Break, Fly has one-turn attacks like Drill Peck, etc. It's not that the HM moves are necessarily bad (other than Rock Smash ;p) but they just don't really warrant usage over other moves.

Surf. It's been my favorite HM since the beggining.
And now that Waterfall is physical move, I'm kinda starting to use that one as well.
Other HMs are crappy. Fly would be good if it did not have bad acc :/

I've never noticed Fly having bad accuracy (assuming that's what you meant by acc). 95% isn't too bad. The only time Fly seems to miss for me is when the opposing Pokémon has done something to either reduce my accuracy or increase its own evasiveness.

Anyway, Fly or Surf would be mine. Both powerful and useful moves in battle (particularly Fly, 'cause if you use it in double battles you can Fly off, then use a move that hits everyone in the field and not hit the one using Fly), and both useful out of battle. Actually, thinking about it, I use Fly way more than Surf outside of battle, and I really do like using it like I described in double battles, so overall I'd say Fly was my favourite. Sometimes I do hate that it extends the battle 'cause it takes two turns, but still.

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