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Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by Rul

Shinra tensei again. He could just pluck Madara out of susanoo with banshou tennin.

Not just that there's an interval, Susanoo can wield two of those imane swords the same time.

Pulling out Madara with Bansho Ten'in is more than just unlikely. Whereas Gaara pulled him out between the ribs, Madara is now inside a solid diamond on Susanoo's forehead, without any gap. Furthermore the Chakra was said to be stabilized. It might push him against the diamond from the inside, but it's not getting him out. Even if that was somehow possible, Susanoo's huge hands will just catch him.

Originally Posted by saaaaaadpanda

Preta path? Also, some of the animal summons may act as effective shields. Additionally, he could just dodge it like the Kages did...

The Kage didn't dodge it. Madara swung the sword to the side, not at them.

Fujutsu: Kyuin cannot absorb this, since it isn't Ninjutsu. It's a mere shockwave that's a result of Susanoo swinging a sword, without actually touching anything.

Originally Posted by Rul

Shinra tensei is a shockwave as well. He'll make one with the same strength as Madara's shock wave?

Wrong. Madara's attack is a shockwave, Shinra Tensei is manipulated gravity. That it's not a shockwave was further implied by Kakashi, after his first clash with the technique.

Anyway, like I already said before, there's an interval and Susanoo has two of those swords.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by Strict

It's not fact that the Bansho Tenins gravitation can pass through other objects; so attract Madara without the whole Susanoo. Also I doubt that gravitation is really working on Susanoo, the user of Susanoo can move in Susanoo as he want:

Isn't even affected by the gravitation and stays in the middle of Susanoo.

And to the bird I shouldn't say much, got defeated by a mere Katon and will fly right to Susanoos head .

Please cut the crap. Nagato has the ability to control gravity - gravity is an invisible force; it's nothing more than a universal magnet. If Gaara's sand can pull Madara out of his Susano'o, I'm very sure that Nagato's Banshō Ten'in has enough power to do the same.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by Strict

It's not fact that the Bansho Tenins gravitation can pass through other objects; so attract Madara without the whole Susanoo. Also I doubt that gravitation is really working on Susanoo, the user of Susanoo can move in Susanoo as he want:

Also you're going to need to show me the scan of where the bird summon was take out by a katon, I can't remember it happening. I'm not being sarcastic.

The bird isn't Nagato's only method of flying, since he can levitate by himself.

Originally Posted by Son of Odin

Please cut the crap. Nagato has the ability to control gravity - gravity is an invincible force; it's nothing more than a universal magnet. If Gaara's sand can pull Madara out of his Susano'o, I'm very sure that Nagato's Banshō Ten'in has enough power to do the same.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by saaaaaadpanda

Eh, maybe. You can still dodge it. It's powerful, but it's just a broad range attack. It's like how a fly can easily avoid a fly swatter if it's paying attention.

Common, this is an instant kill, the swing and the caused shock wave take an instant to reach its target and to crush it, above it is invisible. In a realistic fight a human could not dodge this, as no one could avoid the Shinra Tensei by just dodging.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Madara and Nagato are fighting, Nagato pushes Madara aways with his Shinra Tensei, Madara activates his perfect Susanoo and do this:

crush the meteor + two distant mountains, he cut them without even touching but with a shockwave.

Madara activates it and swing his sword in nagaos directions.

any ideas?

OP should make this clear in his post that which Madara he is talking about, is he Talking about current Madara with rinnegan and Hashi enhancement, or he is Talking about EMS Madara with full Susanoo.

Anyway, people seem to forget that a ST from Nagato is Way more powerful then Pain, That sword slash ain't gonna scratch Nagato.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by Strict

Common, this is an instant kill, the swing and the caused shock wave take an instant to reach its target and to crush it, above it is invisible. In a realistic fight a human could not dodge this, as no one could avoid the Shinra Tensei by just dodging.

Guess that's why the kages are still alive and Hashi beat Madara. It seems strange since Madara can apparently kill anyone instantly...

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Shinra tensei will not only block jutsus, it also is powerful gravity pull that does also 'quite' big shock wave, madara would learn to fly after it lol.. and don't hype with 'meteor' that was already smashed up meteor by onoki.. not even half of it's size

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

You all forgetting that Nagato is a master of 5 elements. Kishi never really showed us because it will be hell haxed. But considering this we all could use our imagination on it. I think the best way is go underground with dotong tech and quickly move away from the sword path.

Re: Show me Nagato's counter for this

Originally Posted by FloriGlori

Not just that there's an interval, Susanoo can wield two of those imane swords the same time.

Pulling out Madara with Bansho Ten'in is more than just unlikely. Whereas Gaara pulled him out between the ribs, Madara is now inside a solid diamond on Susanoo's forehead, without any gap. Furthermore the Chakra was said to be stabilized. It might push him against the diamond from the inside, but it's not getting him out. Even if that was somehow possible, Susanoo's huge hands will just catch him.

The Kage didn't dodge it. Madara swung the sword to the side, not at them.

Fujutsu: Kyuin cannot absorb this, since it isn't Ninjutsu. It's a mere shockwave that's a result of Susanoo swinging a sword, without actually touching anything.

Wrong. Madara's attack is a shockwave, Shinra Tensei is manipulated gravity. That it's not a shockwave was further implied by Kakashi, after his first clash with the technique.

Anyway, like I already said before, there's an interval and Susanoo has two of those swords.

There's an interval with Deva paths shinra tensei, but Nagato's abilities are on a different level than the paths so it's not for sure if the same rules apply to him. :shrug:

As for two swords, you do know he can hold shinra tensei for a little bit than do the full blast. He could also do an attack stronger than Madara's sword and knock him over before he pulls of the second swing.

Bansho tennin isn't unlikely, it's more likely than what Gaara was able to pull of and it's easier to do since it bypass' the susanoo as it's intangible and it's faster. I don't think it would make as much of a difference where he gets pulled out we can't prove it either way.

As for shinra tensei you're right it's not a shock wave but it can cause a gravity blast(whatever you want to call it).