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I must not have been clear (moi?). I have no experience I can or wouldname "god." I sometimes apply that word to various experiences orsituations, but not in any sense of "turning to an entity or supernaturalbeing" who / which might respond. Said in another way, in a foxhole under fire I don't turn to god. Myquibble was with the assumption that more or less everyone has asecond-person Something or Someone they turn to in moments of crisis. And to further clarify, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that;only that it's not the only reality and not the only spiritual reality. Mypassion is for inclusivity, and that approach does not include me. Does that help?