re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by Peazey on 12/31/12 at 12:40 pm to the LSUSaint)

The salary of "Peyton" doesn't affect the saints ability to sign players or coaches because coaches salaries are not under the salary cap. That is why your post is asinine and deserves to be ridiculed. I just figured I would spell it out for you.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by the LSUSaint on 12/31/12 at 12:59 pm to Peazey)

quote:The salary of "Peyton" doesn't affect the saints ability to sign players or coaches because coaches salaries are not under the salary cap. That is why your post is asinine and deserves to be ridiculed. I just figured I would spell it out for you.

Post was about a team that gets really good having to pay its best players alot or too much to retain. It costs those teams usually by being weaker overall.

Payton comment thrown in because I personnaly think he is a prick using his SELF INFLICTED suspension to hold us hostage for ANOTHER raise when he hasn't really done much since his last HUGE raise.

Not saying Payton isn't worth the money, I'm saying the way he got it sucks dick and I view him in a much lower light as a man of character. Don't really care what anyone else thinks, it was humiliating that a coach who has done what he did last year, can get a raise out of it!

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by blueslover on 12/31/12 at 1:11 pm to the LSUSaint)

zzzzzzzz, I'll take the under on the 50 threads.

I'm thinking 1 or 2 a week. The tard tide recedes in the offseason is a big factor for me.

On the subject I'd say if his health and performance stays on track we'll see a restructure/extension after the 2014 season. The $17-18mil cap hit the next two years steps up to $26-27mil then. He'll be 35 and we'll be able to guage if he is closer to fading or continuing on like Favre. HOFer Fran Tarkenton was no bigger than Brees (when the NFL was a lot harder hitting) and played to 38.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by BigBrod81 on 12/31/12 at 1:22 pm to the LSUSaint)

quote:Payton comment thrown in because I personnaly think he is a prick using his SELF INFLICTED suspension to hold us hostage for ANOTHER raise when he hasn't really done much since his last HUGE raise.

Payton DID NOT hold the organization hostage for a new, bigger contract. The league office voided the extension he signed because of some of the language involved in the contract. Get your facts straight before you come here & make a fool of yourself.

Payton would have not been under contract once the season ended so because of that it forced Loomis & Payton's agent to have to come to terms on a brand new contract. It just so happened that the organization experienced what life without Payton could be like which in return made Sean more valuable as a head coach. The whole situation just so happened to fall that way. It wasn't some calculated plot by Payton to extort more out of the franchise.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by the LSUSaint on 12/31/12 at 2:55 pm to BigBrod81)

quote:Payton DID NOT hold the organization hostage for a new, bigger contract. The league office voided the extension he signed because of some of the language involved in the contract. Get your facts straight before you come here & make a fool of yourself.

So he resigned for the same agreeed upon amount as before, or did he negotiate MORE?

You are the fool if you think he didn't get a raise, he could have simply signed the same deal again putting it back into place.

He did it, he helped kill the season with his lack of control, and he used it to gain financially.

Its hilarious that some assclown would believe we would have been ok with Payton this year, with the WORST DEFENSE SINCE 1991 IN THE ENTIRE NFL.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by BigBrod81 on 12/31/12 at 3:15 pm to the LSUSaint)

quote:You are the fool if you think he didn't get a raise, he could have simply signed the same deal again putting it back into place.

You are a fool if you can't see that absence of Payton & how inconsistent the team was without him, didn't increase his worth.

I guess it was Sean's fault ESPN & Adam Schefter decided run their stupid stories of him going to Dallas once the NFL released the info the Goodell had voided Payton's contract.

quote:Its hilarious that some assclown would believe we would have been ok with Payton this year, with the WORST DEFENSE SINCE 1991 IN THE ENTIRE NFL.

I find it hilarious that some assclown can't see how much this season's offense struggled on 3rd down, redzone efficiency & consistently sustaining drives. Ex. 5-13 against KC & 0-6 on their final 6 drives which also included giving up a safety.

Let's just ignore how many times the defense came up with stops during the course of the season in crucial moments only for the offense to fall flat on their faces. You are a fool as well if you don't think having Payton back won't help the offense succeed in those situations in '13.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by the LSUSaint on 1/1/13 at 12:10 pm to BigBrod81)

quote:You are a fool if you can't see that absence of Payton & how inconsistent the team was without him

Its Payton's fault he wasn't there for the team!!!!!

Its his own fricking actions, or lack there of! HE DID THIS SHIT!

I never said he wasn't a great coach. Im saying his own lack of control or lack of action is what caused him not to be there!! and to come back and get a raise because of what HE caused is fricking immoral of him. It is the worst display of character I have seen in some time from anyone I thought highly of.

You have good points on our struggles, but you fail to see they are struggles HE created. You seem to forget that! And don't give me this Goodell is bad bullshite, Payton did NO defend his actions like Vilma did, that should tell any sane person all he needs to know.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by blueslover on 1/1/13 at 12:36 pm to the LSUSaint)

quote:Payton did NO defend his actions like Vilma did, that should tell any sane person all he needs to know.

You obviously do not understand the dynamics of collective bargaining representation.

I have no issue recognizing his error of not recognizing the potential problem of his inaction. On scale though, the penalization was out of proportion to historic standards.

The Pats were caught outright cheating in Spygate. Fine and minus one draft pick.

First, there has yet to be evidence to back up Goodell's charges. Second, such pools have been documented and publicized as common NFL practice with no penalization in the past. That is less offense than outright cheating IMO. Fair justice to me would have been $1million team fine. Loomis is where the buck stops. He is the only one that could have been considered for any direct punishment whatsoever- if any.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by Servedinafghanistan on 1/1/13 at 12:50 pm to LSUINKC)

I was satisfied after this particular point in time, you should be as well.

quote:Drew Brees continues to give back after signing his whopper of a contract, this time by hiring a sno ball truck (snow cones for yous guys up north) to come by training camp for his teammates and fans.

re: Will Drew give up some money to bring in some defensive help???(Posted by the LSUSaint on 1/1/13 at 2:58 pm to blueslover)

quote:First, there has yet to be evidence to back up Goodell's charges

I feel this way as well. But him sitting on his hands and doing nothing tells me alot. Vilma knew he did nothing so he is busting their arse no matter what. ANd once that picked up steam, no way the NFL would try to further damage Payton, they have been in protection mode and public opinion ever since.

If Sean was innocent, he should have said so, otherwise guilt is the only option left to assume.

I guess we will never know, but doing nothing, sitting a year, and then negotiating a raise! That is just rediculous. Loomis was no where near that locker room, that is Payton's domain!