Arcee is a transvestite?

Just read her Spotlight. Is this true? That Jhiaxus experimented on a previously male gender robot and converted him into a female? Omg, talk about ruining all your childhood memories - to now think of the only female TF as a he-she.

This is why I only follow the first 2 years of the 80's cartoon as canon. That, and anything at and after Prime's return. Sorry, "Not-Optimus", but your flames and magenta just doesn't scream "Heroic Leader" to me.

And as for Arcee being a man surgically turned into a woman against it's will, well...Blame IDW.

But then again, as with anything Transformers fiction, like which ever stories you like and believe only what you like to believe. No one said you have to like everything they create and do. I for one, hated the Beast Machines show but I LOVE the toys.

Isn't that right Supreme Optimus Primal?
"The seeds of the future lie buried in the past!"

I'm still trying to figure out why they have to explain it. Just say there are male and female robots. There your done. I didn't ask why during G1, I didn't ask why during Beastwars, I didn't ask why during Masterforce, I didn't ask why during cybertron, and I didn't ask why during animated. There are male and female almost everything on this planet. It's how things work. I don't need an explanation. Especially bad ones.

I'm still trying to figure out why they have to explain it. Just say there are male and female robots. There your done. I didn't ask why during G1, I didn't ask why during Beastwars, I didn't ask why during Masterforce, I didn't ask why during cybertron, and I didn't ask why during animated. There are male and female almost everything on this planet. It's how things work. I don't need an explanation. Especially bad ones.

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Exactly.

I guess they chalk it all up to not wanting to explain in a Children's Toyline that when a Manbot and a Fembot love each other very very much, sparks ignite (literally), parts combine to form something other than Devastator, and leading motor oils get exchanged...Yeah.

Anyways, I still find it no worse than saying "Hey Sally, it seems your favorite Transformer, Arcee, was really once a man who was then against his own free will, surgically made into a woman. Now how about that!"

Yeah, I'm sure Sally will take that real well while looking incredibly confused at her Arcee toy collection.

If anything, I'd just explain it as "Look, we got boy robots and we got girls robots, same deal with human boys and human girls, same deal with all the other animals on our planet. Boys and Girls. Simple as that."

The way I read it (it's been a while) was that the Transformers were asexual and had no concept of gender until Jhiaxus's experiment. Acree was genderless but now "knows" she's a she and somehow any transformer around her subconsciously thinks in genders but doesn't realize it.

The way I read it (it's been a while) was that the Transformers were asexual and had no concept of gender until Jhiaxus's experiment. Acree was genderless but now "knows" she's a she and somehow any transformer around her subconsciously thinks in genders but doesn't realize it.

I thought the whole concept was dumb, personally. Especially since it involved altering her genetic code. Note to IDW: Robots are machines and don't have DNA.

What I can't believe is that Simon Furman said he wouldn't introduce female Transformers unless he had a good explanation for them and that this was the best that he could come up with. You don't need this convoluted and riduculous an explanation.

Some people here hate the Quintessons, but their having created the Transformers has the existence of gender make the most sense: it stands to reason that consumer goods robots would cater to the tastes of their clientele and that at least some alien races out there had genders like we do.

I thought the whole concept was dumb, personally. Especially since it involved altering her genetic code. Note to IDW: Robots are machines and don't have DNA.

What I can't believe is that Simon Furman said he wouldn't introduce female Transformers unless he had a good explanation for them and that this was the best that he could come up with. You don't need this convoluted and riduculous an explanation.

Some people here hate the Quintessons, but their having created the Transformers has the existence of gender make the most sense: it stands to reason that consumer goods robots would cater to the tastes of their clientele and that at least some alien races out there had genders like we do.

I still think " Prime's Rib " is the best Arcee story.. Made her because of Human females whining about all the Autobots being " Male " .. then its " Why's she so dainty " .. then after she kicks two decepticons butts its ' Whys she pink '.. was a really funny story..

But that the Consumer Goods angle makes a good amount of sense too. I mean if the Autobots were essentially house cleaners and chauffeurs.. of course there would be Female Autobots.. and thats played out..

*reads up on Spotlight: Arcee*
Good grief, and people are still paying Furman to do this? There are people turning out far superior fanfic for fun, and this hack gets paid for... CNA? Oh for fuck's sake. Does Furman know what a robot is? Suddenly all the crap he's done begins to make sense: he thinks robots are people in metal suits.