Speaking of which, can someone tell me why I have to install a separate app, just to get a company's support for Passbook? Why can't I just install the data needed directly into Passbook for Starbucks? The same goes for Southwest or AA. It's odd to me that I have to install these companies' individual apps first, just to get them to work in Apple's app.

I can understand where you are coming from. Still not sure how bad the scuffing issue really is, but I had already decided on using a case anyways. iPhones have the best resell of any handsets on the market and I like to protect them in that regard.

Pio, if you do decide to go with an Android handset my recommendation if you hold off to see what Google shows with the next Nexus phone. It's rumored to be shown soon. Possibly this month.

Youtubed the pres debate and it ate 2/3 of my battery life before it was over. In general I notice it loses battery life pretty quickly, this was the worst example of it.

Were you on LTE? Some people have pointed out that using LTE in an area with weak LTE coverage can cause an additional drain on the batter. Phones have to boost the ability to pick up the signal and that uses more juice. This is only an issue with weak LTE coverage, and won't be a problem if you are in a city that is fully rolled out and covered.

Otherwise I am surprised to hear you say this. The majority of reports are that it gets good battery life.

There are different types of "tech savvy" and I think you are being a little unfair to the guy.

Fair point. He's being a little unfair to the aforementioned Verizon rep.

you are correct about what you said in your last post, and I have nothing against you so don't take my comment the wrong way.

I was nice to the girl and I didn't say anything disrespectful to her, I was pissed because they wouldn't fix my problem and I had been waiting for over an hour. Then she decided to call the manager over and he started his bs, so I decided to leave and not bother with their over qualified technicians.

I was not being unfair to the Verizon rep.They have dicked me around too many times and have messed up on my account on two separate occasions that resulted in a bill of 1k one time and a phone being deactivated another. (We have been with verizon for over 10 years, the service is great but some of the reps at the store closest to my house suck.)