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Topic: Clack Valuation Thread (Read 504661 times)

Wondering what your coveted Clack Factory artisan keycap is worth? Looking to sell, or maybe you want to trade for something of equal value? This is the thread for it. Ask your questions here, so others may give their opinions of what the current market value of Clacks may be.

PLEASE, NO DISCUSSION OF PROFITEERING HERE. IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE SALE OR TRADE OF ARTISAN KEYCAPS ON THE SECONDARY MARKET AT VALUES HIGHER THAN RETAIL, OR ORIGINAL PURCHASE PRICE, THIS IS NOT THE THREAD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. THIS THREAD IS A SAFE HAVEN FOR MEMBERS WHO WISH TO DISCUSS CLACK MARKET VALUES, WHICH ARE DRIVEN BY THE MARKET FORCES OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND, AND NOT BY A SENSE OF ALTRUISM OR OBLIGATION.

Any out-of-scope discussion will very likely be moderated out of this thread. You have been warned.

BunnyLake's General Price Structure Guidelines:

there are really only 3 price structures to be aware of

retail pricegeneral aftermarket pricespecial circumstance price

a brief pricing guide to the general aftermarket prices (as of June 2014):

90% of clack sales will fall under either retail prices or those after market brackets

the other 10% of sales are special circumstances, where the discussion of these prices is pointless, they are dictated by either someone wanting to pay above what a clack is generally worth to acquire it in a timely fashion, or where someone is willing to pay more to persuade someone to sell something they ordinarily wouldnt want to under the current market pricing

Below is the old pricing guide from the Clack Info Thread. The same warning applies. Please use this thread for pricing discussions instead of the info thread.

Secondhand Market Prices (From the Clack Info Thread)WARNING: THIS IS NOT DEFINITIVE PRICING FOR SECOND-HAND CLACKS. This is simply a list Iíve compiled of what you might expect to pay for a Clack if you buy from the classifieds. There will be dates provided so you know the timeline of the prices. If you want retail prices, refer to that section. I cannot control what you spend or how much someone sells their Clacks at.

The prices here are a window from October 2012 to April 2013. I will no longer be updating this section. Please consider this a snapshot in time, showing some secondhand market prices.

Prices are in $USD unless otherwise noted. Please check to see if the pricing is for an MX/Topre/Bucking Spring cap as this may affect the price. I've provided links so that you can double check.

From BiNiaRiS' sale. First time I've seen a WASD cluster for sale (see picture in the Milk Blue CC link). March 2013.

From deSheol's sale. He edited the OP so some of the prices are gone. Managed to snag most of the prices before the edit. March 2013.

I saw my first eBay auction of MX Clacks recently (March 2013). Thanks to phetto for pointing them out here. According to Glissant, the clacks were part of net2522's collection. Just as a heads up, I don't know enough about the 420 clack names so I'll use what was posted in the auction. Please check the pictures to see which ones were sold. The names are different from the Wiki. The follow clacks went for these prices:

There's pricing discussions in the Clack Info Thread and other threads. Since I don't really follow pricing anymore, I don't feel I'm qualified to support the continued discussion in that thread. We're just trying to centralize the discussion somewhere so people can get a feel for the pricing. Especially since the Classifieds threads are often nuked without their prices.

It's not putting them on a pedestal as much as trying to keep the info in a location. If you think that the mere existence of the thread is doing so, I think it's just being silly. That's my opinion. You're all welcome to pay what you like. That's why this is here. To gauge what ya'll would like to pay. Nothing more.

It's not even like these prices are a good barometer. The frequency of people selling off collections has fallen off a cliff since 2014, I've only seen a handful and they've been for crazy asking prices (Cactux, duc_nckt and this week Deviruki). Given that the 4grabs sales have slowed as well, 1+ year old data isn't exactly relevant. Unless it's a private sale, you'll find out what it's worth pretty quickly by just making it available on the classifieds.

90% of clack sales will fall under either retail prices or those after market brackets

the other 10% of sales are special circumstances, where the discussion of these prices is pointless, they are dictated by either someone wanting to pay above what a clack is generally worth to acquire it in a timely fashion, or where someone is willing to pay more to persuade someone to sell something they ordinarily wouldnt want to under the current market pricing

what really then needs to be discussed is perhaps the rarity or perceived rarity of certain clacks and what bracket in the aftermarket pricing that falls in to, but 95% of that can be done via common sense

90% of clack sales will fall under either retail prices or those after market brackets

the other 10% of sales are special circumstances, where the discussion of these prices is pointless, they are dictated by either someone wanting to pay above what a clack is generally worth to acquire it in a timely fashion, or where someone is willing to pay more to persuade someone to sell something they ordinarily wouldnt want to under the current market pricing

what really then needs to be discussed is perhaps the rarity or perceived rarity of certain clacks and what bracket in the aftermarket pricing that falls in to, but 95% of that can be done via common sense

That's good info, sir. Added it to the OP.

If someone wants to list the retail prices from recent or current sales, I'm happy to add that to the OP as well.

I personally after owning just the one clack being a 3D Topre one I have no use of, I only got it on impulse I can say I'm not hugely fussed about getting more I feel people more want due to the fact its almost a status symbol, I myself would say I'm guilty of this after getting mine but almost as soon as getting it and looking at it I was like yeah it's nice but nothing to spend this much money on people are asking for it, I would say to those looking to get them question if you really do want them, if you do then go ahead and get it as the price should not matter if you truly want it but to all that just want them for the sake of having one, its not all its cracked up to be the main disappointment I had was they are made from a hard plastic I always assumed they where a soft resin like plastic carved out, but they look very much molded, anyway that's my opinion though.

Anyway as a collector of other items I don't think this is the worst I have spent much more on trading cards when I was a child after all and those are just printed paper, but I got my charzard in the end

Anyway as this is a valuation thread I very recently got my first clack being a 3D Topre skull, at £55 including next day delivery before 1PM with insurance, this was done over ebay and can provide details on it if you need, also £55 at the time of buying that roughly worked out to $88 give or take a little

I personally after owning just the one clack being a 3D Topre one I have no use of, I only got it on impulse I can say I'm not hugely fussed about getting more I feel people more want due to the fact its almost a status symbol, I myself would say I'm guilty of this after getting mine but almost as soon as getting it and looking at it I was like yeah it's nice but nothing to spend this much money on people are asking for it, I would say to those looking to get them question if you really do want them, if you do then go ahead and get it as the price should not matter if you truly want it but to all that just want them for the sake of having one, its not all its cracked up to be the main disappointment I had was they are made from a hard plastic I always assumed they where a soft resin like plastic carved out, but they look very much molded, anyway that's my opinion though.

Anyway as a collector of other items I don't think this is the worst I have spent much more on trading cards when I was a child after all and those are just printed paper, but I got my charzard in the end

Anyway as this is a valuation thread I very recently got my first clack being a 3D Topre skull, at £55 including next day delivery before 1PM with insurance, this was done over ebay and can provide details on it if you need, also £55 at the time of buying that roughly worked out to $88 give or take a little

Strangely enough I've found Clack prices on eBay to be fairly reasonable in the past, seen a bunch of skulls go for 2/3 of the price they fetch here.

I personally after owning just the one clack being a 3D Topre one I have no use of, I only got it on impulse I can say I'm not hugely fussed about getting more I feel people more want due to the fact its almost a status symbol, I myself would say I'm guilty of this after getting mine but almost as soon as getting it and looking at it I was like yeah it's nice but nothing to spend this much money on people are asking for it, I would say to those looking to get them question if you really do want them, if you do then go ahead and get it as the price should not matter if you truly want it but to all that just want them for the sake of having one, its not all its cracked up to be the main disappointment I had was they are made from a hard plastic I always assumed they where a soft resin like plastic carved out, but they look very much molded, anyway that's my opinion though.

Anyway as a collector of other items I don't think this is the worst I have spent much more on trading cards when I was a child after all and those are just printed paper, but I got my charzard in the end

Anyway as this is a valuation thread I very recently got my first clack being a 3D Topre skull, at £55 including next day delivery before 1PM with insurance, this was done over ebay and can provide details on it if you need, also £55 at the time of buying that roughly worked out to $88 give or take a little

Strangely enough I've found Clack prices on eBay to be fairly reasonable in the past, seen a bunch of skulls go for 2/3 of the price they fetch here.

That's what I have seen, but for what I paid and with the shipping next day guaranteed before 1PM included in the price I find that highly reasonable and it did indeed come at 11AM the next day, I think it would be nicer if the postage cost was included in the fairly high price, although my situation is different from most though as the fellow was from the UK so it was fairly easy to get that post done.

Perhaps this thread should be used for that. To post prices a Clack sold for.

I very much agree with this last statement, well said though with that I couldn't put it better rather than having it as a ask for a price just list what they have sold for, giving people a idea of what to expect.

Just got the listing for the clack I bought on ebay, now I was not sure if I should post the link or just an image so I have blanked a few details out, such as seller name, otherwise intact just let me know if I need to change anymore for the rules.

This thread will be a "What is the hgihest my cap has sold for" resource then. smh

Maybe but I think the aim of this is more, to see if say one is getting sold, is it close to what the average price is or have the just made a number up, but again I think a lot of us are thinking a bit too far into this ohh well

So in the spirit of this thread when I sold out of my high class artisan caps I sold a mx gumrot and a hardcore white BS clack together for $75 and then a v2 brobot for $30 and the other V2 was given away for free, one was orange the other red.

If I sell something for an absurd amount, would it then make it into the thread?

First you'd need to find someone to pay an absurd amount!

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If I sell something for an absurd amount, would it then make it into the thread?

First you'd need to find someone to pay an absurd amount!

Pfft I'm pretty sure a quick buyback counts as it selling twice for an absurd amount.

inb4 the last 2 spumoni's sold for $3k each

There's more than one Spumoni Clack?

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"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

dudes scamming, be warned. I along with other users have sent him a payment for the clack. Had a friend message him on reddit to see if he is still selling the clack. He denies ever receiving any payments and is still selling it (if he even has it) if anyone has sent this guy money i have screenshot proof that he is still selling it and accepting payments. Luckily i sent as goods, well i learned my lesson.

dudes scamming, be warned. I along with other users have sent him a payment for the clack. Had a friend message him on reddit to see if he is still selling the clack. He denies ever receiving any payments and is still selling it (if he even has it) if anyone has sent this guy money i have screenshot proof that he is still selling it and accepting payments. Luckily i sent as goods, well i learned my lesson.

dudes scamming, be warned. I along with other users have sent him a payment for the clack. Had a friend message him on reddit to see if he is still selling the clack. He denies ever receiving any payments and is still selling it (if he even has it) if anyone has sent this guy money i have screenshot proof that he is still selling it and accepting payments. Luckily i sent as goods, well i learned my lesson.

I think for all future clacks member to member transaction, we all should send as goods, so we can file a dispute. In Malaysia, Paypal disallow sending as gifts, so I have no choice but to always send as goods. In retrospect, maybe this is the reason Paypal implement this rules.

I think for all future clacks member to member transaction, we all should send as goods, so we can file a dispute. In Malaysia, Paypal disallow sending as gifts, so I have no choice but to always send as goods. In retrospect, maybe this is the reason Paypal implement this rules.

I hope you are getting your money back, Hipster.

And looks like digi is right!

Always buy everything as goods, especially high value items. It's why I send invoices for all my caps and anything I sell. While I know I would never con someone out of their money, the invoice and payment as goods gives them more protection...though I'm sure it will bite me in the ass someday.

Additionally, it's easier to make sure that it's insured and you'll get your money if it's lost in the mail if you pay as goods.