"Of
course not confusing for the people who are drunkards, dope heads and
consumers of everything unlawful by the real God's laws and also want a
free ride to paradise in the heavens... In my book if Jesus was son of
god he has no genealogy....PeriodThis explanation just doesn't make sense...Luke & Matthews were just not smart enough to realize what they were doing...

IMHO Jehovah's witness like you not even qualified to discuss these things"

Sign *Reader, I suspect you’re
not an Imam which is ok, I'm sure you would love to be one day but you’re a very contentious Muslim. "Pride comes before a crash" You have little understanding of
the Quran and no understanding of the Holy Scriptures.

Children of Israel. . .
Have faith in My revelations, which confirm your Scriptures.” (Sura 2, Al-Baqara
[The Cow], verse 41) “A Book confirming their own has come to them from
Allah.” (Sura 2, Al-Baqara [The Cow], verse 89) “When it is
said to them: ‘Believe in what Allah has revealed,’ they reply: ‘We believe in
what was revealed to us.’ But they deny what has since been revealed,
although it is the truth, corroborating their own scriptures.” (Sura 2, Al-Baqara
[The Cow], verse 91) “He has revealed to you the Book with the truth,
confirming the scriptures which preceded it; for He has already revealed the
Torah and the Gospel for the guidance of men, and the distinction between right
and wrong.” (Sura 3, Al-Imran [The Imrans], verses 3, 4) “This
is a blessed Book which We have revealed, confirming what came before it.”
(Sura 6, Al-An‛am [Cattle], verse 92) “If you doubt what we
have revealed to you, ask those who have read the Scriptures before you.”
(Sura 10, Yunis [Jonah], verse 94) “What We have revealed to
you in the Book is the truth confirming previous scriptures.”—Sura 35, Al-Fatir
[The Creator], verse 31.

The Qur’an teaches that these three writings, the Torah, the Psalms and the
Gospel (Injeel) are from God (that's not me saying it) if they weren’t you wouldn’t even have the Quran. If
you disagree, it’s all good. Agree to disagree but don’t set the pace of
resorting to offensive words “senior member” it’s a terrible example.

Say, "We believe in Allah and what has been
sent down to us and what was sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael)
and Ishaq (Isaac) and Ya'qub (Jacob) and the Tribes, and what Musa (Moses) and ‘Isa
(Jesus) and all the Prophets were given by their Lord. We do not differentiate
between any of them..." (Surah Al ‘Imran: 84-85

Sign *Reader, I suspect you’re
not an Imam which is ok, I'm sure you would love to be one day but you’re a very contentious Muslim. "Pride comes before a crash" You have little understanding of
the Quran and no understanding of the Holy Scriptures.

DuhOf course it is mandatory on the part of the Muslim's to believe in the chain of Allah's messengers who were deputed to his work on earth...

Why are you quoting from Quran to tell us what is what in Quran...It you who is contentious in compounding the issue and telling me exactly the Quran warns about people like you...I know few Jehovah's witnesses would knock at my door and be totally lost when they were told the truth... But that is OK I can live with people like you quite easily cuz I know in there is something missing from the Judeo Xtian mind about that will only believe tangible god ...Wherever Allah revealed to Prophet Mmhd about the scripture btw which originally were in oral form mostly but available to a very limited folks in written form were extrapolations about truths...If challenged the truth could be rectified as Prophet Mhmd used do in Jews and Christians cases by listening on their scriptures and then rendering judgments by correcting interpolations to their surprises and some would see the light and become the witnesses of the Allah's and his messenger...

Here is a passage on these things from the Jewish revert Muslim Mhmd Asd commentary what I am saying..........................

Note 64(Quran Ref: 5:48 )

The participle muhaymin is derived from the quadriliteral verb haymana,
"he watched [over a thing]" or "controlled [it]", and is used here to
describe the Qur'an as the determinant factor in deciding what is
genuine and what is false in the earlier scriptures (see Manar VI, 410
ff.).(Quran Ref: 5:48 )

ShibbolethIn the world of manufacturing where some level of integrity is required there is process called quality assurance; when a negligent worker produces a bad lot it is job of the inspector to catch the lot before it goes into the product and shipped to the unsuspecting customer..if the inspection or quality system is lacking the customer can get hurt depending upon the product may also lose life or limb...If the bad lot is caught in time some time it is sorted against the go & no gauge as specified by the designer of the product...Some parts are saved and others scrapped...but at times the statistical analysis renders the whole lot useless and is scrapped...When that happens too often the whole company goes bankrupt...Did you get the drift as is happening to lot of American companies...Now this is the material world but it is same about what is called scriptures being extrapolated for sake of money and material...

As Allah revealed 9:34 (Asad)
O you who have attained to faith! Behold, many of the rabbis and monks
do indeed wrongfully devour men's possessions and turn [others] away
from the path of God. But as for all who lay up treasures of gold and
silver and do not spend them for the sake of Gods Asad(9,51)[51] - give them the tiding of grievous suffering [in the life to come]:

Many
other exegetes, did not accept or agree with his conclusions among whom are
many of the luminaries of 'Islam' such
as:

1. Ali
al Tabari (d 855) who accepted the Gospel
texts

2. Al
Bukhari (810-870)

3. Al
Mas'udi (956)

4. Abu
Ali husain bin Sina (1037)

5. Al
Ghazali (1111) who did not accept his
teachings

6. Ibn
Khaldun (1406) ditto.

In reality it is not up to the People of the Book to
prove their Book is uncorrupted but up to the Muhammadans to do so
based on any 'original' book that would show these corruptions.Sign *Reader, can you or ANY Muslim present even one book? I think
not

The interpreters of the Quran
repeatedly denigrate and accuse both the Jews and Christians of having tampered with and or 'corrupted'
their Holy Books to suit their - with as yet unexplained and unidentified -
nefarious purposes.

No where does the QuranEVER imply that the TEXTS of the Scriptures of
the People pf the Book had been tampered with or CORRUPTED.

Only
man with their own interpretation be he Jew, Christian or Muslim.

Remember
it was only a man who said he received the revelation from an angel and was
told to Read, Recite, Relay, who REALLY knows.

But
ANYONE who reads this post! Think about any man who received a revelation, be
it Moses, Jesus or Muhammad, what manifestations came with it?

1 John 4:1-3: “Test the inspired expressions to see
whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth
into the world. You gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by
this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in
the flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not
confess Jesus does not originate with God.”

So, any alleged corruptions that
happened would have happened AFTER the Quranic'revelations'. If so, then the Muhammadan accusers have an unenviable intellectual, theological and historical MAGICAL ACT to perform:

They have to prove the most STUPENDOUS and massive
literary editing ever performed in the history of humanity; that the Jews and Christians were able to ALTER the TEXTS of EVERY single Book of theirs all over
the world, in EVERY COUNTRY, in all the languages that the Bible was written in, with
the consent, agreement and collusion of all the Jewish
Rabbis as well as all the Christian priests, without
leaving a copy of any ORIGINAL BIBLE.

Many great MUSLIM teachers DO NOT believe the Bible has been corrupted and ACCEPT the authenticity of our PRESENT New Testament texts.

a.Ali al-Tabari (died 855) accepted the Gospel texts

b.Amr al-Ghakhiz (869)""""

c.BUKHARI (810-870)""""

(he gathered some of the earliest tradition of Islam quoted the Quran itself to support his belief in the text of the Bible Sura 3:72,78)

d.Al-Mas'udi (956)""""

e.Abu Ali Husain Bin Sina(1037)"""

f.AL-GHAZZALI (1111)""""

(probably the greatest Muslim scholar he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings)

g.Ibn-Khaldun (1406)"""""" he lived after Ibn-Khazem but did not accept his teachings but rather believed the earlier Islamic teachers.)

h.Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan, founder of the AligarhCollege "In the opinion of us Mohammedans it is not proved that corruption (tahrif-i-lafzi)...was practiced."

i.Fakhruddin Razi, on the authority of Ibn
Abbas, a nephew of Muhammed,

In conclusion, I leave you with this very well known scripture
in the Islamic world ………

Deut. 18:18-20: “A prophet I shall raise up for them from
the midst of their brothers, like you [like Moses]; and I shall indeed put my
words in his mouth, and he will certainly speak to them all that I shall
command him. And it must occur that the man who will not listen to my words
that he will speak in my name, I shall myself require
an account from him. However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name
a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name
of other gods, that prophet must die.” (Compare Jeremiah 14:14;
28:11, 15.)

Jesus said: “I have
come in the name of my Father.” (John 5:43)

**Matthew 6: 9 “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our
Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

What name? The most widely known and accepted name of God
threw out the world.

Psalms 83:18 says, that people may know that you, whose name
is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over ALL
the earth.

Geneses 22:14 And Abraham began to call the name of that
place Je·ho´vah-ji´reh. This is why it is customarily said today: “In the mountain of Jehovah it will be provided

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However Jesus said: “He that speaks of his own originality
is seeking his own glory.”—John 7:18

“If you doubt what we have revealed to you, ask those who have read the Scriptures before you.” (Sura 10, Yunis [Jonah], verse 94) & (Surah Al ‘Imran: 84-85)

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