North Korea warns that US is within range of its missile

Such North Korean threats are for the purpose of getting AID. Aid that it desperately needs given that the majority of it's resourses are used for
the Military.

North Korea is not under any illusions that it can take on the current U.S. Military...but it will say so time and again as a way to show it's people
it's Leaders are strong...strong enough to destroy any possible public uprising.

The North could do considerable short term damage to the South given Seoul's proximity to the DMZ and North Korean Artilary...still...this would be
VERY short lived as fixed emplacements are a testament to the Norths Military stupidity of planning.

The North could rapidly invade with numerous troops but U.S. Military plans call for a rapid response of USAF saturation bombing as well as New
Non-Nuclear EMP's that would be air dropped rendering all North Korean Mechanised Forces innert.

North Korea could have fuel for 48 nuclear weapons by 2015 North Korea will have been able to build as many as 48 nuclear weapons by 2015 unless
the international community is able to make sanctions already imposed on the regime work.

Deterrence? Not really, I'm sure the US military could easily pound them to oblivion before they even had an opportunity to react. IF North Korea
launched missiles at us it'd be THEIR end, not ours.

True. But remember its the US that is saying it is this reason precisely why that they are engaged in disarming the DPRK leadership. "They could
potentially hit the Western United States" is the argument used by the Americans for pursuing a leadership change in NK and to counter Chinese
influence.

The Chinese are aware that control of the Northern peninsula means access to China, the Chinese obviously, will not let this happen.

Besides if they really are led by a crazy zealot in Kim Jong-un he could always use short range missiles or a manual detonation and wipe out the
entire peninsula before the US have a chance to react. Killing many US marines stationed in South Korea and ensuring M.A.D. or mutually assured
destruction... Oh and starting a new WW.

A bleak, last resort stand but its like if Hitler achieved the nuke in WW2 (which he was very close, they did build the worlds first reactor) would
Hitler have used it on the Allies encroaching on Berlin as a last resort and last stand?

I think if he had the means to do so, he might've. Glad he did not but that is the entire point of using nuclear weapons as a deterrence.

If Hitler had them pre- D-Day there would've been less likely an allied invasion based on the premise that Hitler had a nuke. The allies would've
completely postponed the invasion or thought of a new approach. Having nukes, especially short range the most rudimentary launch capability, can alter
the geopolitical and military game in a theater of war in the flash of an instant.

My by how the slightest change in events, the entire course of world history can be influenced. Incredible.
The main reason DPRK uses them as they do, is because of a nuclear deterrence, counter invasion strategy.

You're right, saying if they use them they will be pounded by US forces. Which is why I doubt they ever will use it. Remember though, half the game
in this arena is sabre rattling and threats. Its been going on before I was born and will probably continue after I'm gone.

The looming threat of brutal force is sometimes worse than the use of force or at least makes it worse. It keeps the enemy guessing as to its true
intentions and makes them come up with more creative ways to undermine the nuclear strategies of target countries (like Iran and the whole Stuxnet,
Flame fiasco)
Its the only thing that keeps the military in control of NK. I believe so anyway

Originally posted by WormwoodSquirm
Interesting. The Axis of evil speech, remember that? Iraq, Iran and NK. Iraq is finished, Iran is surrounded and the NK are about to get it.
That speech was written by the ppl in control not by Bush. They placed it in his speech so it would be no surprise who the enemies of the powers that
be are and when they get a head stomping. This is their long term plan and no matter who is President I dont think they will be dumping that plan. It
appears they are full steam ahead to rid the world of these so called "evil doers".
Edit to add: Also aren't these the only countries left on the planet other than Cuba without a Rothschild controlled central banking system?
Hmmm

edit on 27-2-2013 by WormwoodSquirm because: (no reason given)

Those of us old enough to remember, know this all started when the poster boy for the left was in office. Bill (cigar boy) Clinton.

I think it was reported that Iranian scientists were at the previous NK tests as well.

Something that's not really talked about (but I think is very important) is that NK and Iran will almost certainly have come up with a plan for if
one of them is attacked. If NK is attacked then Iran will do something highly provocative (test a nuke, for example) so that the US has to divert its
attention - and possible military resources - to another location. If Iran gets bombed then NK might shell a disputed Island or launch a missile
towards Japan. It would be very hard for the US to fight both, and even more of a worry would be each area collapsing into a regional war.

The US invented this - so called - Axis of Evil, and now indeed NK and Iran are plotting together.

This is nothing more than provocation for the west and s.korea to launch the critical attack FIIRST

Whomever launches first will lose humankind best opinions and will lose in the propaganda war of hearts and minds. Baby Kim and his handlers had
underestimated the intelligence of the free world. They and their dependent chess player apostate leader Khameni aint the only ones who can play
chess. Many more of mankind do.

But make no mistake - the insane folks in N.Korea WILL ATTACK, even if it means using false flag incidents. Thus the free world best be VERY cautious
and vigilant over such incidents, but to INVESTIGATE first before firing. In our modern world of computers and satellites, such investigations take
only minutes if not seconds before the need to fire in defense.

And MAY the usually STUPID UN and Human Rights Council NOT be fooled into supporting N.Korea with such false falg incidents by N.Korea.

N.Korea is deep sh*t now, with starvation and worse, upon the military which the insane leaders rely on to stay in power. When even the military
starves, it is good bye to Baby Kim and gang.

Sit back, relax and wait for the fireworks, and standby some spare cash, if any, to help the civilians, whom are the ones whom will suffer in any
conflict, on ALL sides.

South Korea is an independent sovereign nation and a member of the UN whom observes the rule of law. S.Korea stands on it own and had succeeded,
benefitted politically economically with the rest of world's adherence to the rule of law in our civilised world of higher species.

States such as China, Russia, Iran , and N.Korea cares nothing for rule of law, except whatever law that the dictator mouth on the morning upon waking
up.

Bitch is a term use for female dogs, and dogs are domesticated, an unthinking and incapable of rationality lower species. Using it upon the leaders of
the tyrannical world such as N.Korea or Iran is an insult to dogs.

Countries like China, Russia, Iran, N.Korea ruled by their leaders are not 'bitches', just simply wild barbaric beasts that needs to be tamed and
taught so that they may live in peace with the rest of world and respect the rule of international law, or their own citizens whom are only our fellow
human brothers and sisters enmassed, will teach it to them.

Originally posted by Soloprotocol
North Korea will need to ask their mummies first..ie..China...and i dont think China will take to kindly to firing a Nuke at 1/3rd of there own
property...
North Korea is China's Bitch as south Korea is America's .....

Supposedly they're (china) the ones who leaked the information about the
tests to the interested parties (West, EU etc etc)

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
South Korea is an independent sovereign nation and a member of the UN whom observes the rule of law. S.Korea stands on it own and had succeeded,
benefitted politically economically with the rest of world's adherence to the rule of law in our civilised world of higher species.

States such as China, Russia, Iran , and N.Korea cares nothing for rule of law, except whatever law that the dictator mouth on the morning upon waking
up.

Bitch is a term use for female dogs, and dogs are domesticated, an unthinking and incapable of rationality lower species. Using it upon the leaders of
the tyrannical world such as N.Korea or Iran is an insult to dogs.

Countries like China, Russia, Iran, N.Korea ruled by their leaders are not 'bitches', just simply wild barbaric beasts that needs to be tamed and
taught so that they may live in peace with the rest of world and respect the rule of international law, or their own citizens whom are only our fellow
human brothers and sisters enmassed, will teach it to them.

Well...

That certainly is one OPINION. Does not make it any truer than mine however. I pretty much disagree with every single word in that post which is new
for me.

SEOUL, Feb. 28 (Yonhap) -- North Korea ratcheted up warnings on Thursday as South Korea is set to hold annual joint military drills with the
United States next month.

The Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) dispatch which is monitored in Seoul said that "the black cloud of a nuclear war is coming," and warned any
provocations against the North will lead to the self-destruction of the aggressor.

Seems NK is making threats to nations that are threats to it, don't see anything wrong here, its letting them know that you try something and I will
launch nukes. Don't really know how nukes work when shot at, but shooting them down on their way to the US will cause some issues with the
countries/islands near by.

I would like to point out that as a country away from any danger the US likes to purposely put itself in danger. I guess you have to actually go
somewhere were they can touch you so you can claim freedoms threatened.

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