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In trying to establish separation my question is: there appears to be a slight hill side that dogs would need to hold in order to not drop behind the gun station; the trained dog would hold the hill; however another dog, not so well trained, may not hold the hill and might end up behind the gun station and loop around to get the bird – still showing excellent natural marking ability. My question is how you would mark a dog that fell off the hillside went behind the gun and hooked to the bird as opposed to one that took a straight line directly to the bird - both could be displaying natural marking ability? Would the slight hook be an issue in separating the dogs? .

Terrain changes too, could be a barrier. Not to much of an angle but I think some.

Also, if we're looking at it from our height, at a dog's level it could look like it's landing the hill down there. Could have some dogs hunt short there.

Last edited by Howard N; 02-04-2012 at 05:48 PM.

Howard NiemiYou really gotta be careful about how high a pedestal you put your method, your accomplishments, your dog on. There's usually someone who's done more, somewhere. And they may have used a different method than you did! Chris Atkinson 2013