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There was one play that really stood out for me watching Amir Williams. I think it was in the second half, he had a blocked shot, the entire osu team went racing up the court on the fast break but they couldn't get to the rim and had to pass it back out to the top of the key........AND THEN Williams made it back up the court. There were several buckeye fans around me booing him and calling him lazy. He should have dominated Morgan and Horford, but they never went inside to him.

What it really comes down, to the offensive game of our Mc Donalds AA never developed. Scott, Thompson and Williams.

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Sam Thompson was not a McDonald's All-American. And none of those three guys were in the top-30 in their high school class. Scott and Williams only made the team because there appeared to be a scarcity of better prospects at their positions.

Sam Thompson was not a McDonald's All-American. And none of those three guys were in the top-30 in their high school class. Scott and Williams only made the team because there appeared to be a scarcity of better prospects at their positions.

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DZ83CK: I do hear what you are saying but it does not excuse the fact that Amir was ranked as the 5th rated Center (scout) coming out of HS and after 3 years he has shown minimal progress. You expect more development after 3 years than that. He shows glimpses of adequate post moves and power dunks........when he is 2 feet from the basket and unguarded. He also shows glimpses of the dominant shot blocker he could be......when he isn't being lazy and out of position. And then he shows all the other negatives......you guys have all watched his play this year so far so I won't pile on.

I take the comments about Craft, but the lackadaisical attitude of Williams in palpable. Constantly out of position. That silly foul on the errant three-point attempt late in the game. Very disappointing play that is determined by attitude, not ability.

DZ83CK: I do hear what you are saying but it does not excuse the fact that Amir was ranked as the 5th rated Center (scout) coming out of HS and after 3 years he has shown minimal progress. You expect more development after 3 years than that. He shows glimpses of adequate post moves and power dunks........when he is 2 feet from the basket and unguarded. He also shows glimpses of the dominant shot blocker he could be......when he isn't being lazy and out of position. And then he shows all the other negatives......you guys have all watched his play this year so far so I won't pile on.

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Maybe the coach shouldn't let a slacker on the court. Because you just described a slacker to a tee.

This is a great observation. OSU was playing pretty good defense on UM in the half court set, except for a handful of times in the second half where Walton got by Scott and dished to Horford or Morgan for an easy bucket. UM was missing shots, and this game is a W (even with the atrocious 3-20 from three point land) if the rebounding is better. UM got way too many second chance points.

Sam Thompson was not a McDonald's All-American. And none of those three guys were in the top-30 in their high school class. Scott and Williams only made the team because there appeared to be a scarcity of better prospects at their positions.

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That sounds like recruiting misses from a class everyone was crowing about...

There was one play that really stood out for me watching Amir Williams. I think it was in the second half, he had a blocked shot, the entire osu team went racing up the court on the fast break but they couldn't get to the rim and had to pass it back out to the top of the key........AND THEN Williams made it back up the court. There were several buckeye fans around me booing him and calling him lazy. He should have dominated Morgan and Horford, but they never went inside to him.

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1) Why are you in this thread? Go away.
2) Williams has hands of stone and his footwork and court awareness is horrendous. He doesn't have the skill set for this team to play inside out offensively. If you knew basketball, you'd see and know this.
3) Refer to #1.

There was one play that really stood out for me watching Amir Williams. I think it was in the second half, he had a blocked shot, the entire osu team went racing up the court on the fast break but they couldn't get to the rim and had to pass it back out to the top of the key........AND THEN Williams made it back up the court. There were several buckeye fans around me booing him and calling him lazy. He should have dominated Morgan and Horford, but they never went inside to him.

1) Why are you in this thread? Go away.
2) Williams has hands of stone and his footwork and court awareness is horrendous. He doesn't have the skill set for this team to play inside out offensively. If you knew basketball, you'd see and know this.
3) Refer to #1.

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Well I guess Thad does not know basketball since he recruited him, which I do not believe. The bigger issue is Craft, in today's game you need a point guard who can score. Michigan dared Craft to shoot the ball all night, he did once and he air balled it. Get a point guard who can score then teams would not be doubling down on Amir all night.

Well I guess Thad does not know basketball since he recruited him, which I do not believe. The bigger issue is Craft, in today's game you need a point guard who can score. Michigan dared Craft to shoot the ball all night, he did once and he air balled it. Get a point guard who can score then teams would not be doubling down on Amir all night.

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Craft is, and always has been, limited as a shooter. It doesn't take John Wooden (although apparently it takes someone with a bit more basketball knowledge than you have) to know that he more than makes up for it on the defensive end (he more than held his own against Stauskas, to whom he was giving up 4 to 5 inches in height) and he's great at getting to the basket (as he showed against your team last night).

Amir's problems have nothing to do with Craft--they are pretty accurately summed up by Bill Lucas' post above and by reference to a lack of fundamentals.

There was one play that really stood out for me watching Amir Williams. I think it was in the second half, he had a blocked shot, the entire osu team went racing up the court on the fast break but they couldn't get to the rim and had to pass it back out to the top of the key........AND THEN Williams made it back up the court. There were several buckeye fans around me booing him and calling him lazy. He should have dominated Morgan and Horford, but they never went inside to him.

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You're really attempting to support your argument by referencing what idiot fans were yelling from the cheap seats in the upper deck last night?

Craft is, and always has been, limited as a shooter. It doesn't take John Wooden (although apparently it takes someone with a bit more basketball knowledge than you have) to know that he more than makes up for it on the defensive end (he more than held his own against Stauskas, to whom he was giving up 4 to 5 inches in height) and he's great at getting to the basket (as he showed against your team last night).

Amir's problems have nothing to do with Craft--they are pretty accurately summed up by Bill Lucas' post above and by reference to a lack of fundamentals.

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So Thad recruits players with lacking fundamentals? OSU who has developed some really good college big men, but cannot develop Amir?

Stauskas had 15 on just nine shots, I'll take that from Nick.
Start knocking down some three's and watch how good Amir becomes. My son and I watch OSU every time they play for the sole purpose of watching Craft play defense, but the Game has changed the last 4 years. If you cannot score as a point guard, you're team is going to have a tough time.

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