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Jim Jordan: The outgoing chair of the Republican Study Committee confronted Boehner last year during the debt ceiling debate, when he and outside conservative groups pushed for the “Cut, Cap, and Balance” plan that passed the House. Boehner quashed Jordan’s effort–which, in fairness, had no chance of passage in the Senate–and Jordan has shown little interest since then in challenging the leadership openly on policy or politics. The fact that Jordan, like Boehner, is from Ohio also makes a challenge for the gavel less likely.

Whomsoever it is, assuming it is someone new; I hope that they can cry as well…because nothing says “Speaker of the US House of Representatives” like a weeping man (or woman).

Seriously the new Speaker, again if there is one, needs to do a couple of things:
1) Agree on one specific set of figures, the last arguments involved Boehner not reducing spending AT ALL, but by his accounting it did. It made him look duplicitous and weak. As an example, use U3 or U6 consistently to provide a yard stick to measure yourself by.
2) Talk to Limbaugh/Beck/Levin 1-2 times per month. You caNOT rely on the the NYT, LAT, ChiTrib, Strib and the like to ge your message out, especially to your base.
3) Get the RNC to hire a marketing firm…you’ve got to shape those 30 Second Sound Bites. You may not be able to beat Obama and the NYT, but you need to seem to be able to hold your own…
4) Lastly, stop acting frightened and acting like that the Democrats are right in their charges. “Oh we’re worried about income inequality, too.” When you start defensive, you just start even further behind in the race. BELIEVE IN YOURSELVES AND YOUR PARTY!

I’m a “moderate” to some extent, I realize that it took the New Left 36 years to take over the Democrats, it’ll take a while for the Right to do so to the GOP, BUT I am tired of “pragmatists” and “Compromisers”!

Pragmatism and compromise are the means of politics, not the ENDS, in and of themselves!

It takes generations to “Crush your enemies, to see them flee before you and hear the lamentation of their women.” But do we have to act like COMPROMISE is just the best thing, what we should always strive for?

We should strive for victory, and accept little ones, day-by-day…not just trying to split the difference with our opponents.

Anyone saying Bachman is a retard and should go live under a rock. You simply do not get the game being played, and Bachman is not capable on the merit, nor capable on the messaging and marketing to the country. Stop filling up this site with more hot gas. Thank you.

If the far right takes over, it’ll be a generation at least before we win another national election.

blue13326 on December 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Fine then, that’s a deal. At least in 2032 or so we’ll be thoroughly equipped to return this country into something that works. We tried playing nice, and all that earned us is a loss and the guaranteed entrenchment of Obamacare.

Now is the time to fight. Play this as a blood sport – the left has since at least 2006. Go hard right and yield nothing. Don’t give in on low taxes. Don’t give in on low spending. And FFS quit yielding the message to the anti-Christians and the feminists!

Either the magnitude of the difference between the parties will be great enough to show the American people there is another way than this dismal status quo, or the morons have truly taken over and ours is a lost generation anyway. Better to win in ’32 with a real party than to win lose narrowly again in ’16 with the weaksauce politics we’re playing now.

With that said Boehner or who ever the heck is the next House leader could learn one thing from Trump….learn to work the media to your own ends even if they don’t like you. Our side is going to have to learn to how to not fear the MSM and must learn how to manipulate the media. The MSM is filled with idiots who will fall for anything…

Ryan isn’t going to run unless Boehner fails the first ballot. Unlike some who run with an R after their name, Ryan is a real Republican and loyal to his party. He isn’t one of those “true conservative” RINOS who claim they are “conservative first, Republicans second”.

Boehner isn’t the problem here. The Senate Democrats and some jackasses in the House who CALL themselves Republicans but keep handing the Democrats victory after victory even though they call themselves “conservatives” are the problem.

A lot of these names are fun to think of but Sarah Palin, awesome as she is, can’t be speaker unless she runs for congress. Even if she did and won, handing the speakership to a freshman is unlikely to happen.

A lot of these names are fun to think of but Sarah Palin, awesome as she is, can’t be speaker unless she runs for congress. Even if she did and won, handing the speakership to a freshman is unlikely to happen.

All of you with some dream candidate, most from outside the house, West, Palin, Newt, Bachmann, etc…

I would advise not getting your hopes up to high.

Not only are they not realistic, they’re not really even good ideas politically. And regardless of whether by law the speaker doesn’t have to be an elected rep, it’s NEVER happened before, ever. Won’t happen. If you can find a bookie on it? Bet the farm that it won’t.

You’ll thank me later. Cease the endless self-flagellation that is the hope that suddenly, despite all the odds and evidence, the Republican party is going to turn and embrace AM style “conservatism” as its stardard.

They need you for votes and support, but those that use and have used you for such recognize, or at LEAST accept the general consensus, that despite their need for you and their willingness to play theater for you, the folks you ACTUALLY want, the things you ACTUALLY want, and the delivery you ACTUALLY want are terrible ideas for anyone who ever seeks to win elections with enough frequency to possess some semblance of power and capability.

Conservatives are just pawns to them. People tried to tell you after 2008 that the parties new found interest in your and your principles was fake and you were being used. But you guys mostly just shouted those folks down.

Learned anything yet? How long will you do the same thing over and over again expecting different results?

Nobody expects Palin, West or Gingrich to become Speaker. We’re just dreaming because it’s the only way people can even imagine the GOP having any guts. It’s like fan-fiction. No, we expect another lifer politician with questionable conservative credentials, only concerned about his political career.