we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

This has to be my favorite post from you Chris. Thank you.

you jacked this up jordan thats my quote. and how outta shape do you have to be to sweat enough having fun to drench your sheets and wash them every week? i'm picturing two obese whales going at it with sweat pouring everywhere right now.

we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

This has to be my favorite post from you Chris. Thank you.

you jacked this up jordan thats my quote. and how outta shape do you have to be to sweat enough having fun to drench your sheets and wash them every week? i'm picturing two obese whales going at it with sweat pouring everywhere right now.

You know there's a difference between zero sweat and drenched sheets/pouring sweat right? And there are other fluids that may be involved as well.

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we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

This has to be my favorite post from you Chris. Thank you.

That wasn't my post, I responded to that post ;)

I suck at this. Sorry. I don't have a favorite from you, now. However, the other screen is currently playing Guardians of the Galaxy. Had I been wrong (which I was, apparently), I now want to (and probably will) call you carlord from here on out. Also, I hate this thread, but I like the idea of you (pretty sure we'd fight IRL, and then hug or something after I won ;P).

I think you might be doing something wrong... Does your family consist of 8 large men by any chance?

Yup, and there's even a schedule. Two kids per day for the first three days, parents' whites on thursday, parents' darks on friday, towels on Saturday, and it's not unusual to have another load of some sort during the week. I agree with the others that towels don't need to be washed every week, but DW doesn't agree, and since she's in charge of the laundry...

we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

We do about 4 loads a week for 4. Boys sheets need to be changed because they wet the bed or the pullup leaks.

And, well, I'm a middle-aged woman. I sweat.

Add in my workout gear, and the towels. After a week, the towels smell musty and gross.

are you cleaning yourself in the shower prior to using it or using it as a mop to clean up the otherly bodily fluids left on the bed? if the latter i'd wash it probably after one use. otherwise i hang towels after showering and have no issue with musty smell in a week.

When I was raising my kids there were 5 of us and we had about 10 loads of laundry/week. Now with just 2 of us we do probably 4 loads/week. I actually am shocked at the people that do not wash towels/sheets on a regular basis. Ugh!!!!

When I was raising my kids there were 5 of us and we had about 10 loads of laundry/week. Now with just 2 of us we do probably 4 loads/week. I actually am shocked at the people that do not wash towels/sheets on a regular basis. Ugh!!!!

Do you people have tiny tiny washing machines? I wash everything on a regular basis, but not a frequent basis. When I was single, 14 t-shirts, 14 pairs of underwear, 14 pairs of socks, and 1 pair of jeans would fit in the washing machine with 1 towel and 1 set of sheets (just the fitted and flat sheets, plus pillow case). That's .5 loads per person per week and I'd usually still have room left in the machine... could stretch longer if I owned more socks.

When I was raising my kids there were 5 of us and we had about 10 loads of laundry/week. Now with just 2 of us we do probably 4 loads/week. I actually am shocked at the people that do not wash towels/sheets on a regular basis. Ugh!!!!

Do you people have tiny tiny washing machines? I wash everything on a regular basis, but not a frequent basis. When I was single, 14 t-shirts, 14 pairs of underwear, 14 pairs of socks, and 1 pair of jeans would fit in the washing machine with 1 towel and 1 set of sheets (just the fitted and flat sheets, plus pillow case). That's .5 loads per person per week and I'd usually still have room left in the machine... could stretch longer if I owned more socks.

P.S. I only occasionally wet the bed so maybe that's the difference?

We also operate at about .5 loads per person per week, and we're large adults. That includes towels and sheets. I have to think each kid would need substantially less. When I was a kid we had 'nice clothes' and 'play clothes'. This way neither set needs to get washed after every use. The nice clothes stay clean enough for multiple wears, and the play clothes look like hell because who cares.

And for those who will say "oh ya, but for $0.32 cents a week I'm not going to have my family looking dirty", it's about more than money. Unless you like doing laundry, you should try to minimize the horrible chore, no?

When I was raising my kids there were 5 of us and we had about 10 loads of laundry/week. Now with just 2 of us we do probably 4 loads/week. I actually am shocked at the people that do not wash towels/sheets on a regular basis. Ugh!!!!

Do you people have tiny tiny washing machines? I wash everything on a regular basis, but not a frequent basis. When I was single, 14 t-shirts, 14 pairs of underwear, 14 pairs of socks, and 1 pair of jeans would fit in the washing machine with 1 towel and 1 set of sheets (just the fitted and flat sheets, plus pillow case). That's .5 loads per person per week and I'd usually still have room left in the machine... could stretch longer if I owned more socks.

P.S. I only occasionally wet the bed so maybe that's the difference?

I guess I just wear a lot more clothing! I have workout gear, which is usually washed after one wear (unless it's restorative yoga). I work out a lot. I also wash my sheets once a week (read into that what you will). We also use a lot of rags for cleaning. We're the weirdos who wash the table AND counters every day (make your jokes now). I also use cloth napkins because I'm fancy. But I have to wash them a lot because I'm a barbarian when I'm hungry.

I'm a big guy, and I do about a load a week for me. Would be / should be more if I worked out more. DW does about a load a week for her. Then there are the kids. Then the bath towels weekly, the pool/beach towels when we go, the sheets monthly, the dog towels sometimes. And most of our clothes don't get washed after every wearing (underwear, socks, and workout clothes do).

That adds up to 7 to 9 loads of laundry a week and keeps us smelling good and looking presentable, but not coiffed. This seems completely reasonable to me.

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I have two teenage boys who both do sports. Believe me when I say that we need to do at least one load per kid per week. The kid who does cross country is soaked from head to toe after a run, and he runs every day. He can't let his clothes sit in the hamper for too long because they stink up his room. Having kids also means the kitchen table is not a great option, so yeah I will wash the sheets.

My gas bill was under $12 last month for a gas dryer, gas cook top, and gas water heater

Actually, the land where my dryer sits cost me about $1900 to purchase. So that guy does have a point. In 30 years, I hope that I can sell that land for about $4k though.

That money you spent for your dryer space could have been worth $3k after 10 years. Shame on you for putting your FIRE at risk for a luxury.

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Hi S,

Thank you for your advice. I recently sold two of my bicycles because they also took up a lot of space. I guess I could have hung them so they would not need to occupy $2500 worth of space.

I do still have two bicycles though, so for a while I had purchased land for $5000 to store four bicycles. I am still new to this site and learning though. I would hang my current bicycle but my 1% selective OCD does not allow for me to suspend it upside down or vertical. It must be stored sitting on the floor with minimal amounts of anything touching it.

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The "/s" was not his initials, but him indicating that he was closing a sarcasm tag. :)

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Of course you could find more expensive places if you tried, but the restaurant/take-out prices here are not that bad.

Good answer, I was going to say that while I imagine Manhattan will have higher prices than nearly the rest of the country, I'm sure you can find lunch for under $10 if you look. If nothing else there has to be a hot dog stand within walking distance of some of the office buildings.

Haha, reminds me of Heidelberg. There si a cable train (?) up to the castle. The fare was 1,50€ up+down. You could buy a Bratwurst for 3€ about 30m away fromt he lower station. About 100m away from the upper station, near the castle, about 300m air distance fron the first Bratwurst, here it would cost you 5,00€.I didnt buy it btw.

The boss called together all the low-level managers today and gave us the "lots of things are changing over the next few months/years, have a good attitude and maybe some of us won't get fired" talk. (He wasn't being mean or threatening, just trying to be honest.)

I was thinking how great it is to know that if I get volunteered for something that doesn't work with how I want to live my life, I have FU money and the ability to live modestly. I can ditch if things get too tough and find something else. I know a lot of my peers and even the managers above us aren't in that situation.

we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

We do about 4 loads a week for 4. Boys sheets need to be changed because they wet the bed or the pullup leaks.

And, well, I'm a middle-aged woman. I sweat.

Add in my workout gear, and the towels. After a week, the towels smell musty and gross.

are you cleaning yourself in the shower prior to using it or using it as a mop to clean up the otherly bodily fluids left on the bed? if the latter i'd wash it probably after one use. otherwise i hang towels after showering and have no issue with musty smell in a week.

The "/s" was not his initials, but him indicating that he was closing a sarcasm tag. :)

Hi )

I don't think people should sign off with obscure internet symbols.

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All internet symbols are obscure until they're used enough to be recognizable. "LOL," for example, was something that was quite obscure 20 years ago, as was ":)"

/s is common enough that I recognized it, and by him/her using it, it makes it more common and widespread. You should feel lucky to have learned it now, grandpa, so you can be hip and with it when you see it next.

Your rant is against language/communication evolving, which... good luck with that. ;)

(To be clear: Not understanding it: A-OK. Ranting against it? A bit silly, IMO. But my ranting about your ranting is just as silly, I suppose, as people ranting against communication changing is as common as communication changing. So I recognize my own silliness as well. :) )

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The "/s" was not his initials, but him indicating that he was closing a sarcasm tag. :)

Hi )

I don't think people should sign off with obscure internet symbols.

/rant

All internet symbols are obscure until they're used enough to be recognizable. "LOL," for example, was something that was quite obscure 20 years ago, as was ":)"

/s is common enough that I recognized it, and by him/her using it, it makes it more common and widespread. You should feel lucky to have learned it now, grandpa, so you can be hip and with it when you see it next.

Your rant is against language/communication evolving, which... good luck with that. ;)

(To be clear: Not understanding it: A-OK. Ranting against it? A bit silly, IMO. But my ranting about your ranting is just as silly, I suppose, as people ranting against communication changing is as common as communication changing. So I recognize my own silliness as well. :) )

We are two former teachers who accumulated a bunch of real estate, retired at 29, and now travel the world full time with a kid.If you want to know more about me, or how we did that, or see lots of pictures, this Business Insider profile tells our story pretty well.We (occasionally) blog at AdventuringAlong.com.You can also read my forum "Journal."

It was a real live example how a well off family can become ‘poor’ in just two generations. The grandparents were upper-class, the father becomes a gynecologist and should have remained upper-class but his shopping addiction is holding him in middle class (for now, since he is still working and making good money, once he retires I am afraid it is going to be a different story) and she is making a middle class wage but has upper class taste but doesn’t realize that without the support of her mother who is also middle class she would have ended up poor …

I know someone with similar issue. Grandparents started poor, pulled themselves up to a comfortable retirement & leaving money when they died. Parents started lower middle class, ended up lower upper class. They have their issues, mostly mental/emotional, but money wise they've got plenty.

Daughter? Has tastes, expectations of what she was raised with. Worked at a law firm doing admin work $14/hr for 6 years. Law firm started having trouble, people jumping ship all over, despite being told that job searching was a good idea, she stayed there, got transferred into another dept that needed people. Not a good fit, so fired. Then spent 6 MONTHS not really job searching, living off savings & unemployment. Then got a part time, minimum wage manual labor job. Also in here her car was totaled (freak storm flooded the parking lot & the car), so she bought a brand new 2016 Prius. In cash.

She has the option to move back in with her parents, but for mental & emotional health reasons, that is a really bad idea. I'm not sure when she'll wake up to reality, but she spends more than I do and I make 4x what she does. She's headed for a hard crash.

And I'm convinced you're messing with me. My dryer probably cost $400 like 8 years ago and is still going strong. Dryer sheets? They're what, $2.99 for a box of 500? And space? Seriously? Part of the beauty of a dryer is that I don't have space to air dry everything I, my wife, and my kid wear in a given week. Takes up far more space than the 9sq ft my dryer does.

Seriously, you're fucking with me right?

Why do you even use dryer sheets?

Reduces static cling.

And softens cloths. And makes them smell nice. They help to keep stains out of your cloths.

And reduces lint on clothing in the dryer process.

They can also cause rashes, allergic reactions, and similar issues for the poor sufferers among us. Me included. Dryer sheets are NOT part of my routine, neither is fabric softener.

We inherited some bounty sheets from a friend who loved. We don't use dryer sheets so left it in the garage. My wife eventually says "something smells really bad in the garage" I'm like "it's probably those dryer sheets they smell very powerful." She says no but fast forward... Yeah it was the sheets. They smell like a toxic waste dump. I have sensitive skin so avoid products like that. If you like it, go for it the price is insignificant.

We inherited some bounty sheets from a friend who loved. We don't use dryer sheets so left it in the garage. My wife eventually says "something smells really bad in the garage" I'm like "it's probably those dryer sheets they smell very powerful." She says no but fast forward... Yeah it was the sheets. They smell like a toxic waste dump. I have sensitive skin so avoid products like that. If you like it, go for it the price is insignificant.

I know they sell those sheets in scents like "fresh linen" and "outdoor fresh," but I've never come across the "toxic waste dump" variety.

So, after adding some more foam tot his thread (like it needed any more .. The orange and black box are overflowing already with foam .. :-) I do have an overheard/witnessed at work story to share with you.

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It was a real live example how a well off family can become ‘poor’ in just two generations. The grandparents were upper-class, the father becomes a gynecologist and should have remained upper-class but his shopping addiction is holding him in middle class (for now, since he is still working and making good money, once he retires I am afraid it is going to be a different story) and she is making a middle class wage but has upper class taste but doesn’t realize that without the support of her mother who is also middle class she would have ended up poor …

This kind of occurred with my family. No one was rather rich, but my great grandfather owned over a 1000 acres in rancho seco, CA. My grandmother sold it off for a million and began a gambling addiction. Thankfully there's social security, because at least 90% of that money's been burnt up.

The "/s" was not his initials, but him indicating that he was closing a sarcasm tag. :)

Hi )

I don't think people should sign off with obscure internet symbols.

/rant

All internet symbols are obscure until they're used enough to be recognizable. "LOL," for example, was something that was quite obscure 20 years ago, as was ":)"

/s is common enough that I recognized it, and by him/her using it, it makes it more common and widespread. You should feel lucky to have learned it now, grandpa, so you can be hip and with it when you see it next.

Your rant is against language/communication evolving, which... good luck with that. ;)

(To be clear: Not understanding it: A-OK. Ranting against it? A bit silly, IMO. But my ranting about your ranting is just as silly, I suppose, as people ranting against communication changing is as common as communication changing. So I recognize my own silliness as well. :) )

The "/s" was not his initials, but him indicating that he was closing a sarcasm tag. :)

now that my joke seems to have run its course by causing a lot of responses ...

I knew he was being sarcastic :) That's why I responded with a more formal written response taking in a joke about the cost of ownership on the land in which my bikes stood (a joke taken from people talking about how dryers take up valuable space)

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we do towels once a month maybe every 3 weeks and do sheets i dont even know once every two months if that. i'm not doing alot of running in my sleep so i dont really sweat in bed.

In the summer here we do alot of laundry. Two changes of clothes per day b/c of the heat and sweating. One set for work, come home, change and active evening hours... Towels might need washing once or twice a week. The nose knows.