Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Carson came from a prostyle at USC. He called audibles, had a playbook and played under center quite a bit.

It really is a much different scenario. Not to mention that team had talent on offense.

I'd be much more inclined to think about it with Manziel if we had Gordon or really any decent WR options. I'm happy sparing him a complete crap season that could damage him physically and mentally._________________
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Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Carson came from a prostyle at USC. He called audibles, had a playbook and played under center quite a bit.

It really is a much different scenario. Not to mention that team had talent on offense.

I'd be much more inclined to think about it with Manziel if we had Gordon or really any decent WR options. I'm happy sparing him a complete crap season that could damage him physically and mentally.

And he was a 4 year starter....(started twoards the end of his freshman season)....Maniziel was in High-school 3 years ago...

3years ago he was a redshirt

played in 2013
played in 2012
Redshirt in 2011

I stand corrected....as he enrolled early at Tex A&M....usually a football player enrolls in the Summer or the Fall of that year....but you are correct...JF enrolled in January...I missed it....let me correct...3 years and 1 month past...he was a Sr. in High School

Also another interesting fact.....Johhny only played QB full time... 2 years in HS also...I still stick to the main point, I was trying to make....by the time he made it the Pro's Carson Palmer had been a starting QB for 8 years....4 in a pro style offense......Johnny Football had been a starting QB for 4 years total with 0 years in a Pro Style offense......just saying...there is a huge difference in experience/preparation levels. _________________-A team is built through the Draft.

Not bowing to public pressure to play the No. 1 overall pick, Lewis named Kitna the starter and stuck with him through a rough beginning to the 2003 season. The Bengals finished 8-8 with Palmer, a future Pro Bowler, never taking a snap.

"To look back on it maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but the football team in the circumstance they were in couldn't afford to lose games because the quarterback was a rookie even as talented as Carson was," the coach said Tuesday.

Carson came from a prostyle at USC. He called audibles, had a playbook and played under center quite a bit.

It really is a much different scenario. Not to mention that team had talent on offense.

I'd be much more inclined to think about it with Manziel if we had Gordon or really any decent WR options. I'm happy sparing him a complete crap season that could damage him physically and mentally.

+1

I'm sure you guys are tired of hearing this, but next season is going to be better. 2 top ten picks, Gordon coming back and Manziel with a year to learn the playbook. Johnny is only a redshirt sophmore. It will be a few years until he starts dipping into his potential as a pocket passer.

Manziel isn't anywhere near ready, which is pretty much expected IMO. He is only 21 and only played 2 years in college running a basic offense. I think the ability is there but the mental aspects and skills, such as looking off safeties, etc., aren't. Again, I'm fine with that.

I don't think he needs to sit for any certain amount of time but rather until he's ready. By ready I mean he know the playbook inside and out, feels comfortable running the offense, looks sharp in practice and simply outperforms Hoyer in practice routinely, be that 3 weeks or the whole season.

Also, you can always move on from Hoyer to Manziel but it's difficult to go back to Hoyer once Manziel gets the nod._________________