Object was very large; oval shaped like windows sort of egg shaped; not bright but dim; silver metalic; hovered over us and you could hear a humming like sound police official told us to get out or be arrested before we saw this thing not more than a few feet above; it was night time but very visible and clear enough to describe what I saw.

The first time was also in the Bronx daylight; something going around so fast; many lights got to scared; ran behind the roof door and looked out again about 3 or 4 minutes; the object was gone. year it happened was 1974