tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post2207206067959983160..comments2014-09-03T23:08:05.570-04:00Comments on Her Bad Mother: A Modest ProposalHer Bad Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-49608076425186092332008-04-10T00:14:00.000-04:002008-04-10T00:14:00.000-04:00"everytime someone goes in to buy an SUV, they are..."everytime someone goes in to buy an SUV, they are sterilized and forced to drive a hybrid instead?"<BR/>Heh. There's a thought.<BR/>As the eldest of four kids, at age 31, I'm pretty glad to have grown up in a 'big' family--and <B>really</B> glad that we're all fairly eco-conscious. (at minimum, we recycle and drive vehicles that are at least 20mpg. I compost and drive a 30/38 car.)<BR/><BR/>I've seen people claiming that having kids is a direct contradiction of eco-consciousness before, and it is so ridiculous!<BR/>If 'green' folks don't have kids, how are there going to be any kids that know to be green?<BR/><BR/>Plus, there was that article in the last year or so about how, even after rebellion, kids tend to follow the political beliefs of their parents. So, clearly, we need conscious people to breed! :DAl_Palhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10260615221471924302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-20407578545309011882007-07-31T16:56:00.000-04:002007-07-31T16:56:00.000-04:00You know what i say? i say that this is a good ide...You know what i say? i say that this is a good idea and NO, i really don't care if anyone disagrees with me because This is FACT. This is reality. Im serious. If people would just wake up from their own world and stop being so selfish, then maybe, just MAYBE, people would stop "predicting" that the world is going to end. I don't care if i sound absurd. Im just saying, if you Wish to have children, then please, help our Earth, and just have one. At least one. Please. No, im not be hypocritical about this, im trying to say if people take it easy and have just one child, think about it- The world wouldn't be so populated. Human beings have children everyday. It isn't some kind of crime to have children. Just have one. Why don't people try HEAR Earth's warning instead of being selfish. Agree, Disagree. <BR/>I could really care less. I just wanted MY opinion heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-22974674006824510462007-07-04T13:04:00.000-04:002007-07-04T13:04:00.000-04:00KBAB - choosing to not have children doesn't make ...KBAB - choosing to not have children doesn't make anyone crazy. Preaching the child-free life as morally superior is, however - to my mind - ethically suspect and intellectually unsound. I don't begrudge anyone the choice to not have children - so long as they don't insist that I should be begrudged *my* choice.<BR/><BR/>We do best for the earth by leaving a light footprint. We can do that with children, or without.Her Bad Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-92124370535704321642007-07-04T12:45:00.000-04:002007-07-04T12:45:00.000-04:00I get the satire.I'm just tired of getting lumped ...I get the satire.<BR/><BR/>I'm just tired of getting lumped into a group of "crazies" because I choose not to have children. Everyone who chooses not to have children does so deliberately and for a variety of reasons. While I think my husband and I would have some pretty kickass offspring that could definitely make the world a better place, that doesn't override my reasons for being childfree. <BR/><BR/>That doesn't make me crazy or an extremist. Just making a choice.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I get frustrated when I see people that have 3, 4, 8 kids trailing them. But I don't know their life. Selfish people exist. Some choose to reproduce and others don't. Not everyone who is childfree takes island-hopping jet vacations or drives a Hummer. I don't have a car, I recycle, I reduce my consumption by not buying anything new that I can find used... and I'm sure some people with kids do the same.KBABhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13545902890959118689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-22454609590309335142007-07-01T22:16:00.000-04:002007-07-01T22:16:00.000-04:00I like you, Bad! I was thinking Logan's Run before...I like you, Bad! I was thinking Logan's Run before I even got to your paragraph on it. (We named our son Logan after that movie!) <BR/><BR/>Great post, only a fool would not recognize your satirical ability.Shannonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12115868919422169439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-11886263774196184272007-06-29T22:55:00.000-04:002007-06-29T22:55:00.000-04:00Oh my god, Brava! brava!Oh my god, Brava! brava!Rebeccahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11582796689281835066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-47705712346630403712007-06-29T10:57:00.000-04:002007-06-29T10:57:00.000-04:00I have wanted to write a post on this for weeks, b...I have wanted to write a post on this for weeks, but knew from me it would devolve into an unfunny, spittle-flinging rant. Thank you, thank you for doing it better. Jonathan Swift is standing up in his grave and saluting you.Veronica Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06387774344892567897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-72328486660134502572007-06-29T02:35:00.000-04:002007-06-29T02:35:00.000-04:00My first thought was same as Nancy's: "Each additi...My first thought was same as Nancy's: <BR/><I>"Each additional person consumes a huge amount of resources over their lifetime, especially if they live an energy-intensive lifestyle such as we enjoy here in Canada..." but his solution proposes reducing the PEOPLE and not the ENERGY-INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE. In other words, he arguably wants people to keep up their own selfish lifestyles while future generations (if there are to be any) must pay."</I><BR/>That is what got me. Ignorant.<BR/>The next bit 'o info I must agree with is what Mama Luxe said about large families being frugal, passing things down, instead of buying, buying buying, etc... yes, we are a large family, and we have to budget. We stay home most of the time. We do not have time for frivolous shopping, etc. We use organic cleaners, buy the organic food we can afford and grow our own in a large garden. We cloth diaper, breastfeed, home birth. We have goats we milk and actually are letting them mow the lawn - and weeds. We are by no means perfect, but we are not sucking the future out of the planet, either.<BR/>Having a large family is not what a lot of people think it is.<BR/>Oh - and VERY funny satire. Very funny.Jacque Dixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06955702010903885917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-50686287280330409202007-06-29T01:30:00.000-04:002007-06-29T01:30:00.000-04:00ummm..okay - so we dont have any more children. al...ummm..okay - so we dont have any more children. all of us. the whole world. we just stop having kids cold turkey so that we can save the earth. and then we'll all be dead and the earth will be safe for who?the mad mommahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14535453643548976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-14874926010943089672007-06-28T23:45:00.000-04:002007-06-28T23:45:00.000-04:00Gamey and tough to chew checking in to say hi.Good...Gamey and tough to chew checking in to say hi.<BR/><BR/>Good post and yes, I totally get the satire.Grannyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17283823157675990935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-16778775792326793162007-06-28T23:34:00.000-04:002007-06-28T23:34:00.000-04:00Love the post and the references.About large famil...Love the post and the references.<BR/><BR/>About large families--I would suspect many of them create less of an environmental problem (at least in the short term) than smaller families--because they HAVE to live thrifty and reuse, recycle, re-purpose (unless they are just mega rich).Mama Luxehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05888447703056321730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-64892896776835817652007-06-28T22:01:00.000-04:002007-06-28T22:01:00.000-04:00At one point in my life, I would have been all for...At one point in my life, I would have been all for offing anyone over 50. However, as that number starts to get closer and closer, I'll have to say, "let's all just go down together".Fairly Odd Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11974404093257620566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-14206651300645850902007-06-28T20:56:00.000-04:002007-06-28T20:56:00.000-04:00Duhh... totally posted this comment on the wrong p...Duhh... totally posted this comment on the wrong post (no your modest proposal did no make me cry :)eastcoastellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-6880912881273157512007-06-28T20:53:00.000-04:002007-06-28T20:53:00.000-04:00Ooh... you made me cry (in front of the in-laws no...Ooh... you made me cry (in front of the in-laws no less).<BR/><BR/>My own little girl is still at the clinging little monkey stage, but even now there are brief, very brief moments, where she already seems so independent. It seems to happen so fast.eastcoastellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-48350403586184006682007-06-28T14:58:00.000-04:002007-06-28T14:58:00.000-04:00I vote for just getting rid of all the rapists, ch...I vote for just getting rid of all the rapists, child abusers and murderers instead. How? I'm afraid I don't know the answer but I'd sure like to investigate sending them to the moon. They are what's a waste of space and resources, not our children.Chaos Controlhttp://chaoscontrol.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-46063733407616606092007-06-28T00:01:00.000-04:002007-06-28T00:01:00.000-04:00well there is always going to be some arse saying ...well there is always going to be some arse saying that we our over-populated and that we shouldn't have children.and people die and people are born its called a life cycle so those arses should just deal with it.LAVENDULAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-63028843022278393122007-06-27T23:57:00.000-04:002007-06-27T23:57:00.000-04:00Um, I made a similar comment at a dinner party onc...Um, I made a similar comment at a dinner party once and the whole room shut up and stared at me like I was Dr. Evil.aimee / greeblemonkeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16486438725653025356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-5064123642095581182007-06-27T23:55:00.000-04:002007-06-27T23:55:00.000-04:00ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha<BR/><BR/>wait... but then who will run all around the house looking for the kitty with my daughter, all while making "meow" sounds under his breath, if my 83 year old grandfather is gone?<BR/><BR/>Why don't we just kill the morons? Or... everytime someone goes in to buy an SUV, they are sterilized and forced to drive a hybrid instead?painted maypolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06446625015003854710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-10285532554697027082007-06-27T22:36:00.000-04:002007-06-27T22:36:00.000-04:00I definetly remember reading A Modest Proposal in ...I definetly remember reading A Modest Proposal in High School...who could forget it?! :(<BR/><BR/>My husband studied Ecology and Biology for his undergrad degree, and this was actually something that was very much important to him as we considered how/when/if to have children. And in considering (international) adoption, we considered the implications of bringing someone specifically into the most highly consumptive place in the world. <BR/><BR/>Of course, you're right - the answer is not to stop production, but to steward what we have much, much, much more appropriatly. I appreciate what you said about the mother's and children...good perspective...Catherinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07316677018586769316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-59908846241179817652007-06-27T22:33:00.000-04:002007-06-27T22:33:00.000-04:00I don't know how you could NOT get that this was s...I don't know how you could NOT get that this was satire, but then, some people have a sense-of-humour-ectomy done. <BR/><BR/>I thought this was hysterical. <BR/><BR/>And I couldn't comment on the previous post, but that Che shirt is hysterical. Where do you find these things?Major Bedheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17669161302510096751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-40357861277492680732007-06-27T20:40:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:40:00.000-04:00Gidge - no, of course we couldn't eat the seniors....Gidge - no, of course we couldn't eat the seniors. They'd be gamey, and tough to chew.Her Bad Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-856860783869655902007-06-27T19:58:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:58:00.000-04:00This all drives me nuts! Not you, those people wh...This all drives me nuts! Not you, those people who think we can't sustain the planet if we keep having kids. <BR/><BR/>I totally get your satire! Are there really people who wouldn't get this post? Weird.Christinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04662448292809451387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-21799424483029466052007-06-27T19:25:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:25:00.000-04:00To be serious for a moment, I love how he says "Ea...To be serious for a moment, I love how he says "Each additional person consumes a huge amount of resources over their lifetime, especially if they live an energy-intensive lifestyle such as we enjoy here in Canada..." but his solution proposes reducing the PEOPLE and not the ENERGY-INTENSIVE LIFESTYLE. In other words, he arguably wants people to keep up their own selfish lifestyles while future generations (if there are to be any) must pay.<BR/><BR/>I guess I'll be one of the first to go in the future, since treatment for my disease is costly and those deciders would probably realize I'm a burden to society. So it was nice knowing you, HBM.Nancyhttp://mommaamme.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-46738692874657128082007-06-27T19:07:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:07:00.000-04:00I'm just glad you didn't suggest we EAT the senior...I'm just glad you didn't suggest we EAT the seniors bcse I don't think they'd be so tasty.Gidgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14879734082487890329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-70547149302972230842007-06-27T14:17:00.000-04:002007-06-27T14:17:00.000-04:00tracysan: educated, socially conscious people can ...tracysan: educated, socially conscious people can also try to help the kids of Those Who Drive Hummers to become more socially conscious than their parents. I think it all comes down to where you would be most effective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com