Wednesday, 8 February 2017

Massive sinkhole that swallowed 215 million gallons of radioactive water drained into the aquifer system which supplies drinking water to millions of Americans

Photo AP

A sinkhole in Florida has swallowed 215 million
gallons of radioactive water, leaving residents fearing to shower.

The sinkhole is now in the process of
getting filled in.

A massive sinkhole at a Florida fertilizer
plant that swallowed more than 200 million gallons of radioactive water is now
in the process of being filled.

The toxic sinkhole that opened up at the
Mosaic's New Wales plant in Mulberry, Florida, is being sealed by a concrete
mixture.

Photo The Weather Channel

Video taken from WFTS-TV's helicopter last
week showed a built-up ring around the hole as crews have begun pumping the
mixture inside.

The sinkhole, which measures 45 feet in
diameter and is 300 feet deep, opened up beneath a pile of waste material at
Mosaic, the world's largest supplier of phosphate.

The Daily Mail reported a storage pond
containing 215 million gallons of radioactive water sat atop the waste mineral
pile and drained into the aquifer system, which supplies drinking water to
millions of residents.

Aquifers are vast, underground systems of
porous rocks that hold water and allow it to move through the holes within the
rock.

Since then, workers and contractors have
been trying to figure out the best way to stabilize and fill the hole.

The Floridian aquifer, one of the highest
producing in the world, is the principal source of groundwater for most of the
state, and extends into southern Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina.

75 comments:

Water is not radioactive. The only isotope that can be made from O16 in water is N16. N16 has a half life of 7.5 seconds. Contamination in the water can be radioactive, but a simple carbon filter will remove that.

I do this for a living. People panic when they hear radiation. You get more smoking in a year then I have from over a decade of reactor plant operations.

Water is water is water. It's what's in it that can be bad. Depending on the isotope, the actual element can be worse then the radiation.

BTW, you get radiation eating a banana, or anything else high in potassium. You get more from the sun in a year then I have in a decade of operations. The ground is radioactive. Fly cross country and you get a good amount. Look up the numbers.

As for Fukushima? Melted fuel is a solid. Great deal of difference between contaminated water and a large chunk of radioactive metal.

This is a message to Shaun Williams. I am an international specialist and expert witness on the biological effects of nuclear weapons, radiological weapons, and exotic weapons. I was trained by one of the last Manhattan Project scientists who made the hydrogen bomb work for the US govt. You obviously do not know anything about radiation, you have no training, and no knowledge of anything you have made statements about in this comment section. Tritium is radioactive hydrogen and when attacked to oxygen it makes radioactive water. Natural and man-made radioactive isotopes are contaminants in nearly all drinking water globally from depleted uranium wars used widely since they were introduced by Israel in 1973 in the Arab-Israeli war (Yom Kippur war) - Kissinger gave it to the Israelis to use for the first time on the battlefield. The US has also introduced fission products from nuclear bombs, mini-nukes, neutron bombs, and the Ukraine has been targeting the Novorussia eastern Ukraine population with nuclear warhead missiles causing nuclear bomb detonations in the city of Donetsk equivalent to 20 kt. Your comparison of radiation to a banana is straight out of the Health Physics Soc. that is a global institution set up in the US by the nuclear establishment to lie about radiation and cover up the biological damage from exposure to even very low levels. There is not safe level of radiation no matter how low the amount is. One atom of uranium, under the right conditions, can cause cancer. You are a troll, you don't have any knowledge of radiation, and you have no business or right to deceive the public just because you want to get a paycheck for lying. People's lives matter.

Methinks, you sir, are full of shit as a young crow. In regards to your self proculation of greatness, on the Internet, no one knows tour a dog. I'm an Internationally Trained Bullshit Detector, and you just pegged the meter.

Thank you Leuren... I've seen a lot of comments like his on articles like this and you're right, he's a troll... although I have little scientific knowledge re things radioactive, you do pick up a little lay knowledge trying to understand the different reports and research papers published since chernobyl... Your comment has the solid ring of credible facts whereas shaun's comment has the rather more tinny ring of 'alternative facts'...

Leuren, tinfoil much? I never claimed to be an expert. I am simply a well trained operator with nearly 2 decades of operational experience.

BTW, a 20kt detonation would have made the international news. This is regardless of where the detonation was. No non-test detonations have been reported since 1945. If you wish to refute this claim, please provide references like I have.

So, Vickie, any information provided with references is alternative fact if you don't agree with it? Congratulations, you are part of the problem in this country today. I have use references to back up my claims and you poo poo it due to disagreement with your world view? A common quote attributed to the great Mark Twain was "It is better for the world to think you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Feel free to get into a intellectual argument on an issue, but be ready to back up what you say with references and other resources. This is why scientific papers have a bibliography at the end.

BTW, here is link to the Wikipedia article on Tritium. Notice how the US limits how much can be in drinking water is less then a tenth of the WHO limit? There is a reason for that. Also take a look at the biological health effects section.

Water containing radioactive pollutants, it seems. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/29/495936718/giant-sinkhole-at-florida-plant-leaks-polluted-water-into-state-aquifer according to an article on Forbes.com 'Mosaic's phosphate fertilizer plant was storing its "gypsum stack" containing sulfate, gypsum, sodium and radioactive phosphogypsum in a pond nearby the plant.'

People: See Dr. Ernest Sternglass' research on radiation after WW2. He did extensive studies on medical radiation, etc, etc. etc. His thoughts were it is dangerous even in very low doses.professor of radiation physics at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

Accident? Just like building fukishma on a fault line? Dakota pipeline drilling? Trump now president, seems all a bit sus to me...Seems like its done on purpose...feeling so sorry for all those in America right now...feeling for you all ......

Fukushima wasn't built on a fault line, the entire coast is adjacent to a fault line. Not may options. It wasn't the quake that did it in, it was the stupid backup generators that were at or below sea level and were flooded by the tsunami. If they had been built on the hill we wouldn't be talking about this.

Maybe the Nuclear Reactors that used special filtration system to filter out toxic metals singularly can offer up tips to free us from the toxic burdens? Maybe, you hink they would tell us what filters are good for specific particles?

Thank you Leuren!!!! The Pacific Ocean is a catastrophe in large part thanks to Fukushima, but let's not forget that is where the military dispose of their radioactive waste!! No live Orca births since Fukushima, aquatic life dying by the thousands each day, living creatures bleeding out, malformed and unbelievable tumors.... and scientists have the audacity to scratch their head saying they can't explain it!! If anyone believes there is no danger, wait about 15 years (or less) when the accumulative effects catch up to you ;) - If you believe there is no danger, you are researching in the wrong places!!!

LOL Carbon filters???? Seriously!! They can't even clean the waste coming out of our tap water!!! They capture a lot for sure but any test will show that the water you drink after filtering it is still NOT healthy

Carbon filters can be part of an effective filter system as well as anion and cation beads.Such filters are routinely used to purify radioactive water prior to discharge from nuclear plants.People that are paranoid of any radiation....RUN RUN RUN!GAMMA rays are going through you right now!Background radiation!!Run run run!

Yep, unless it is tritium, the carbon filter removes the radioparticles in water. Most radioparticles are ionic so an ionic filter can make the carbon more effective. ANYTHING that purifies water can remove radioactivity. It is not the water that is radioactive, it is what is in it that is.

And yes, heavy water that contains tritium is radioactive pure water. However as I stated, and referenced in the wiki article, actually being exposed to it is negligible in normal quantities. Since some people on here don't like Wikipedia, here is a reference link from an actual university.

What a waste of time, energy and bad spelling. I especially enjoyed the error where the respondent meant attached but typed attacked. If his credentials are valid his education lacks the proper use of English and spelling. I kept reading all the comments in hopes that I could learn something. As usual I learned that many people enjoy scamming other people. Whatever.

I could correct your grammar right now. However I'll just point out, his english was good enough to get the point across. If that's all you can nitpick at, then I guess we have less problems then we thought.

Two observations I've noticed here. Leuren and Shaun Williams have opposing ideas. I've noticed Williams is just trying to ease everyone and calm them down. Making them think radiation is a normal part of every day life. That's some straight government propaganda pushing if I ever saw it. Leuren knowns facts that not even our mainstream media will cover. Also in defense of Leuren against Williams who is probably a government troll; Williams stated that if there was a 20kt explosion the media would have covered it. Really?! Maybe Williams you should understand, we don't trust you, we don't trust the media, and we especially don't trust our government. Oh and Tin Foil would only enhance the signal, so stop using Mocking Bird slang to destroy peoples views of each other.

That's fine if you don't trust me. I care not. This is why I backed up all my information with references. Do the research, form your own opinions. An educated person is a much calmer and understanding person. People fear what they do not understand. Understand it and you will not fear it. I understand radiation. I do not fear it.

BTW, trolls just make allegations, they do not backup with external references. I have backed up everything I said with references.

Science is all about references. You cannot claim something is "fact" or "truth" without some way to back it up. Scientific papers ALL have a bibliography at the end. No paper in the scientific community without it will go anywhere and the writer will be labeled a kook.

For your information, Hiroshima was approximately a 15kt yield. 20kt detonations would be reported SOMEWHERE! A google search for novarussia nuclear yields nothing applicable, books and tv shows only. Links to PBS, and amazon.

I am so tired of the acceptable amounts in water bullshit. it is bullshit lies. Anyone that spreads those lies are just lying to themselves. And ya go ahead and say my spelling sucks, my grammar sucks take away from the real truth is all this crap in our bodies and water and air is poison. One of these days, you or someone you love will die from all the acceptable bullshit. Yes im angry im very f###cking angry. And im angry at you those who do this for a living, trying to convince free thinking people that you somehow know more because you believe the lies of some government agency that does not give a fat rats ass for us.

You're right Dan, the Pacific is radioactive. So are you, your wife, your dog, your house, your plants.....EVERYTHING IS RADIOACTIVE TO A DEGREE! OMG PANIC!. It's called natural background radiation. I urge you to educate yourself. I think I am done here. I have been called a troll by uneducated people who cannot back up their claims. I have been called a government plant.

Idiots.

Simply because you disagree with the information presented does not make it false. BTW this same argument can be made against "climate deniers"

And HEEEEERE we go.... the politics creeps in. I don't know jack about radiation, but I do know that globalism is the end game plan for EVERYONE that campaigned against Trump, Democrat AND Republican, and that becomes more obvious every day. Trump may not be the "savior" of America, but I have no doubt he will hinder and severely slow down your globalist agenda.

Background radiation at flying altitude has also increased 12% in the last few years. Check spaceweather dot com and see their "Earth Sky Calculus" numbers. I have measured radiation at flying altitudes myself since 2009. I stopped flying in 2014.

This plot displays radiation measurements not only in the stratosphere, but also at aviation altitudes. Dose rates are expessed as multiples of sea level. For instance, we see that boarding a plane that flies at 25,000 feet exposes passengers to dose rates ~10x higher than sea level. At 40,000 feet, the multiplier is closer to 50x. These measurements are made by our usual cosmic ray payload as it passes through aviation altitudes en route to the stratosphere over California.

What is this all about? Approximately once a week, Spaceweather.com and the students of Earth to Sky Calculus fly space weather balloons to the stratosphere over California. These balloons are equipped with radiation sensors that detect cosmic rays, a surprisingly "down to Earth" form of space weather. Cosmic rays can seed clouds, trigger lightning, and penetrate commercial airplanes. Furthermore, there are studies ( #1, #2, #3, #4) linking cosmic rays with cardiac arrhythmias and sudden cardiac death in the general population. Our latest measurements show that cosmic rays are intensifying, with an increase of more than 12% since 2015:

Folks, if there was anything in the water highly radioactive, it wouldn't have been in some pond that could turn into a sinkhole. I didn't catch what the isotopes are, BUT if you have all the minerals you need in your body, you probably won't absorb the isotopes you ingest.

I see there are some people claiming to be "Experts" and saying that 20kt nukes are being used in eastern Ukraine - that's laughable. As for myself, I worked at Chernobyl in the mid to late 90s and think the best advise for people who are worried is to get all your minerals from supplements. Every isotope has a stable counterpart and if you don't need the mineral any isotopes will pass through your system and not be used in cell construction or metabolism.