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Disagreed. This type of loss is not what was needed. A loss is one thing, but a loss like this is unnecessary. You have to wonder what the players are thinking about the quality of guys and coaches. Gameplan was bad and is never adjusted. What do the players think about the coaching at times when we don't adjust and continue to get piss pounded?

This team is lifeless from an emotional standpoint and gutless from a physicality standpoint. That starts at the top.

Probably the same way the Houston Texans felt after playing the Packers.

we've had plenty losses to spark better play. we could've lost that game in detroit and we'd be sitting here at 6-5. that win streak was masked a little by inferior opponents (exception: Houston). dare i say this is all due to injuries?

It's clear this team cannot beat top opponents with all the injuries right now. When everyone comes back it'll be better, but the OL is not going to change for the rest of the year. They gotta coach em' up or scour that waiver wire. Jared Allen and Peppers have to be salivating to play that OL.

I think it shows that our oline is terrible without Bulaga. We need a left tackle badly and a young starting center. Our pass rush is still terrible. The good thing we have going for us is that we started 6 rookies and 1st year players on D. This is good playing time and experience for these young guys and in a year or two our d will hopefully be like the Ravens D a few years ago. We need Oline help badly!!!!

i am not pushing for MM to be fired. let's be clear. but i think that Andy Reed is out of a job we should at least look at Reed or Bill Cowher is he decides he wants to coach again. with coach Mike we will always see a power passing game that ignores the run. i rage against the crap ZBS Green Bay runs. does Aaron have to be IR'ed before we dump it? we will see undisciplined play more than we should. how many times can a guy say we need to follow thru with fundamentals? we will live and die on Rodgers back. can Mike change? sure i guess but his history tells us it's not likely.

i am not pushing for MM to be fired. let's be clear. but i think that Andy Reed is out of a job we should at least look at Reed or Bill Cowher is he decides he wants to coach again. with coach Mike we will always see a power passing game that ignores the run. i rage against the crap ZBS Green Bay runs. does Aaron have to be IR'ed before we dump it? we will see undisciplined play more than we should. how many times can a guy say we need to follow thru with fundamentals? we will live and die on Rodgers back. can Mike change? sure i guess but his history tells us it's not likely.

Cowher has been out of the game for to long IMO. Andy Reed and MM are very similar so i don't see any changes with him as HC, plus i don't feel like his heart is in it anymore. MM hasn't been a huge run guy but he has been running the ball more as of late. It's funny cause when we pound the ball people complain that we are running it too much. I do agree we need to be more creative with our RB unit and maybe if we upgraded our OC that could possibly change.

totally disagree with you on the running back situation as far as GB and Philly. Philly lives on a power RB and a one that can catch. we live on one that blocks well, remember Jackson? a great blocking RB. he could not gain a yard to save his life but in 3'rd down he blocked. i would rather have a RB that got that first down. Cohwer is a leader of men. if there is one flaw of coach Mike he does not know how to lead. he kinda's.

totally disagree with you on the running back situation as far as GB and Philly. Philly lives on a power RB and a one that can catch. we live on one that blocks well, remember Jackson? a great blocking RB. he could not gain a yard to save his life but in 3'rd down he blocked. i would rather have a RB that got that first down. Cohwer is a leader of men. if there is one flaw of coach Mike he does not know how to lead. he kinda's.

lol then why doesn't he use McCoy like he should? He has used to run it a lot more but he was always a passing first kind of guy. You are right about Cowher but there is a lot more to being a HC then just being a leader of men. I just think he is past his prime as HC but that's just my opinion.

Cowher has been out of the game for to long IMO. Andy Reed and MM are very similar so i don't see any changes with him as HC, plus i don't feel like his heart is in it anymore. MM hasn't been a huge run guy but he has been running the ball more as of late. It's funny cause when we pound the ball people complain that we are running it too much. I do agree we need to be more creative with our RB unit and maybe if we upgraded our OC that could possibly change.

So you want to fire Clements?

Originally Posted by alabastertubby

can you imagine with the guys we have if TT drafted a power RB that could catch how much better we could be? say we lose Jennings and Finley it totally changes our play
calling.

How many power backs are good at catching the ball out of the backfield? They are far and few between my friend. In fact, I can't even think of any of the top of my head.