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LOL... And if the Bible was written on the Iberian Peninsula Christians would be praying to "Hey-Soos"

But reality gave us "Jesus" & and reality also gave us the abomination that was the <32 game tenure of Rex Ryan the Bills HC. Also love how he rallied the team last season only to be fired before Black Monday.

And let me not even get into how the D was firing on hopeful cylinders under Schwartz and took a nose dive into the rubble under Rex. ANY Bills fan will tell you that.

And of course him allowing his idiot brother to run amuck up there.

Man please... Run that game on someone with a brain deficiency, or a Hackenberg believer lol

that D was awesome, w/ a chance to actually get in the race they gave up 26 pts to an awful raiders offense in the loss that ended any slim hopes they had.

2008 was bad and Tannenbaum was exposed as a shill once Eric the Great Talent evaluator was canned.

The all-time draft of 2006 included Kellen Clemens, Anthony Schlegel, and Eric Smith in the second and third rounds. The 2007 all-time draft had a total of four players, only one of which would be all-timey, while another was solid. That's it.

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The all-time draft of 2006 included Kellen Clemens, Anthony Schlegel, and Eric Smith in the second and third rounds. The 2007 all-time draft had a total of four players, only one of which would be all-timey, while another was solid. That's it.

Many people wanted to draft Reggie Bush w/ our 1st pick, we took a guy who was as good or better(pre injury) in Leon Washington in the 4th rd.

Drew Coleman was also a contributor

That was a really good draft and the beginnings of our title run teams.

If he didn't generally suck after that, I might think he was almost halfway decent. And that's not bothering to counter the best you can do with the rest of that draft. 2008-2010 was three straight years of drafting embarrassment.

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If he didn't generally suck after that, I might think he was almost halfway decent. And that's not bothering to counter the best you can do with the rest of that draft. 2008-2010 was three straight years of drafting embarrassment.

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If he didn't generally suck after that, I might think he was almost halfway decent. And that's not bothering to counter the best you can do with the rest of that draft. 2008-2010 was three straight years of drafting embarrassment.

the next season he drafted 2 all pros including a future Hall of famer.

he traded away most of the picks from 2009 and 2010 BUT did get key title game run contributors in sanchez, Greene, Slasuon in 2009. 2010 was bad but remember we gave up picks fro Braylon, Holmes, Cro- all key contributors.

Yes, but Ryan, Edwards and Bowles all subcontracted out the offense. Which is not how things are done in the NFL unless you want to suck.Instead we have had a a HC of the defense. Bowles' hiring an odl hack like Chan Gailey was the first clue that he wasn't going to get involved in that part of the team.There are a lot of bright smart young offensvie coaches out there in the NFL and college. Bowles instead brought in a 3 yards and a could of dust old guy who was out of football.

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Yes, but Ryan, Edwards and Bowles all subcontracted out the offense. Which is not how things are done in the NFL unless you want to suck.Instead we have had a a HC of the defense. Bowles' hiring an odl hack like Chan Gailey was the first clue that he wasn't going to get involved in that part of the team.There are a lot of bright smart young offensvie coaches out there in the NFL and college. Bowles instead brought in a 3 yards and a could of dust old guy who was out of football.

I mean, the simpler answer is that Belichick, Parcells, and Carroll are all really smart and Herm and Rex were unquestionably stupid. Bowles doesn't strike me as stupid, but he certainly doesn't seem for to lead an organization--too soft, too complacent, too non-confrontational.

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Buttfumble is still the best QB the Jets have drafted in the last 16 years, since Chad. And we have drafted the most QBs over that time in the NFL. Let that sink in. We passed on the likes of Brady and Wilson when we had more than enough scouts wanting to draft them.

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1. Inability to draft long term talent. We continue to be extremely thin due to constant quick-failed draft picks in every round.

2. Inability to draft a QB or develop a QB. We continue to select QB's poorly, regardless of what round, and then fail to develop them in any way.

3. Inability to hire a Head Coach worth investing "consistency" in. Our Coaches were fired for good cause. We have yet to find one worth holding steady for 6-8+ years on.

4. Inconsistency of System. Too many and too often changes in Coaching style, too many changes too often in offensive/defensive systems.

5. An obsession with the Patriots that blinds us to long term goals with short term stupidity.

This is brilliant.

I actually think that, at the current moment, Woody may realize this and is trying to correct this with Mac and Bowles. My questions are:

Does Woody have the fortitude and conviction to stick with a long term plan?

Are Macc and Bowles the guys to invest consistency in?

Do they need a different/better organization-even if the guys are right, do they need more of them?

In the end, I stick to my prior position-if Woody was really going to do things differently, he would have extended MaccBowles, or fired them. He was not going to eat 2 years of contract-Woody hates that.

Maybe they had that meeting this week-Woody: "Ok, I get it. You don't need to win this year. Please don't start McCown. Just play solid defense and develop the young QBs and you get 2018."