December 02, 2010

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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the incoming House Budget Committee chairman, said he won't vote in favor of the recommendations of President Barack Obama's deficit panel.

Ryan said Thursday criticized the group's recommendations because they don't do enough to address the rising costs of health care.

He told reporters at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast that the panel's work does represent "adult conversation" finally taking place on addressing the national budget.

The 18-member panel, which will vote on the final recommendations on Friday, needs 14 members to support it in order to issue a formal recommendation to Congress and the White House. Seven members have said they'll vote for it so far, including Sens. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) and Kent Conrad (D-N.D.).

UPDATE: Another Republican member of the Bowles-Simpson deficit panel is rejecting the panel’s recommendations.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) said he’s leaning against voting for the plan because it “accelerates” the implementation of health care reform.

“I think Bowles and Simpson deserve a lot of credit for producing a plan. But I can make the argument, frankly I think they -- not necessarily intentionally -- but they have accelerated the arrival of Obamacare,” he said Thursday afternoon.

“I’m going to read though the rest of the plan. But I would say certainly I’m a lean no,” he added.

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Why is it so difficult to deal with these two subjects separate instead of politisizing both? Is that what they call GOP governence. Of course they are related. But one cannot outrule the other to solve both! Leave politics out of it and govern for the people, not for the millionaires in Congress!

It is class warfare! You can't call it any other way. Most Congressional senators and representative are covering their pockets instead of covering the countries budget! the club of 40 millionaires and billionaires are in favor in paying more taxes Including Gates and Buffet! Why not Congress? Mmmm!

If the point of the plan is to reduce the deficit. And the plan is implementing healthcare reform faster. Then wouldn't that be because the healthcare plan reduces the deficit? Because it does according to the CBO.

"Also, it's no accident that the requirements were set at 85 percent and 80 percent. Last December, the Congressional Budget Office issued a memo saying that if the requirements were set any higher than that, health insurers would have to be considered part of the federal budget -- driving up the cost estimate of ObamaCare. As the CBO put it, referencing proposals for even more stringent requirements, "this further expansion of the federal government's role in the health insurance market would make such insurance an essentially governmental program, so that all payments related to health insurance policies should be recorded as cash flows in the federal budget." At the time, the Cato Institute's Michael Cannon pointed to the memo as a "smoking gun," revealing that Democrats had deliberately hidden the true cost of ObamaCare by making sure the CBO wouldn't factor in the cost of the private sector mandates imposed by the legislation."
http://insureblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/obamacare-puts-squeeze-on-health.html

Posted By: Nolt all of us are Blind Followers | December 02, 2010 at 04:52 PM

"In reality, if you strip out all the gimmicks and budgetary games and rework the calculus, a wholly different picture emerges: The health care reform legislation would raise, not lower, federal deficits, by $562 billion."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/opinion/21holtz-eakin.html

And one from your OWN team..Don't forget, the argument to extend middle-class tax cuts is: Money in the pockets of consumers will recover the economy. So what heppens when the Cuts are used to pay skyrocketing premium costs?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/obamas-health-care-plan-p_n_502096.html

So after all the noise and meetings Ryan can't bring himself to vote for the recommendations that he will fight against anyway. Sounds like the only way is to use the roadmap which his party would not support either. Smells like another sell out and down the river goes the middle class.

Posted By: So after all the noise and meetings Ryan can't bring himself to vote for the recommendations that he | December 02, 2010 at 06:12 PM

Paul Ryan is no friend to the middle class.He is the henchman for the eliminination of Americas safety nets .More tax cuts for billionaires,unfunded wars and party loyalty instead of doing what is right for America.He was at the party during all of the Repub deficit spending, bailouts and now he pretends like he was not there.The media (fox) has adopted him and now it appears he works for them not middle America.Hey Paul, hows about giving up that unconstitutonal government health care you recieve and we pay for .Pensions are a thing of the past why do you deserve one?
We will give you a voucher.Hypocrite.

The lack of intellectual consistancy in the Republican party is immeasurably off the tracks.
None of these guys want to negotiate with pharma or permit a public option- but they want to contain health care costs.
Outlaw sickness and you will be a dictator.

Obamacare does not reduce the budget. We knew that the numbers they were giving the CBO to score were junk, smoke and mirrors. The CBO scores what it is given, not what is correct to begin with. Junk in...junk out, as they say. So unless it is repealed, we still have huge deficits with poorer care. It isn't fully implemented until 2012, and we are already seeing rates go up and patients being dropped. Ryan's position is responsible. He's not in favor of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic until the whole in the ship gets plugged.
The American people spoke, and the dems are back to politics as usual.

Hey common sense ..... If the implementation of "Obamacare" as you call it, or "commonsensecare" as I call it, is the reason for premiums rising and people being dropped, what was the reason for the same things happening the last ten years to an even extremer degree ???? Rates have been rising 20 to 40% yearly for the last several years, people were being dropped for years just because they got sick ..... Are you gonna blame that on "Obamacare" too ??? By the time it does COMPLETELY take effect, people are going to learn the truth about it as opposed to the "Republican, and Insurance conglomerates spin and lies" and it will be accepted (by actual thinking people) as better than sliced bread !!!

Ryan is a Republican, and DOESN"T want to address rising health care costs ..... Insurance companies (And all other corporate entities) should be allowed to make as much profit as is humanly possible, whether it be ethical or not ...... That my friend is the agenda and philosophy of the Republican Party !!!!!!!!!