In Response to Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : Our Cavs troll is going to rub it in that they have the better PG than the Cs. Point well made. PudPosted by puddinpuddin

I am not rubbing it in at all. Irving has yet to prove he can stay healthy and Rondo is clearly the better defensive player. Don't get me wrong, I am happy, the Cavs who were starless have picked up on one.

In Response to Re: Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : I am not rubbing it in at all. Irving has yet to prove he can stay healthy and Rondo is clearly the better defensive player. Don't get me wrong, I am happy, the Cavs who were starless have picked up on one. Posted by cavaliersfan

you're definitely not a troll. the posts of yours that I've read have been fair minded and you're welcome here as another teams fan who likes to discuss, as far as I'm concerned.

In Response to Re: Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : I am not rubbing it in at all. Irving has yet to prove he can stay healthy and Rondo is clearly the better defensive player. Don't get me wrong, I am happy, the Cavs who were starless have picked up on one. Posted by cavaliersfan

That's my point... you wouldn't do it in a million years nor would any other Cavs fan.

You are deliriously happy as well you should be for having a rising star, a real McCoy.

" Our Cavs troll is going to rub it in that they have the better PG than the Cs. Point well made. Pud"

Actually:

1. You're the one rubbing it in as you have done twice during this thread. You absolutely revel in pointing out to other Cs fans other point guards that are better than Rondo or who you think are better than Rondo, and you would definitely prize an unproven rookie over a point guard who has been on a championship and a finals team, that's how you roll.. It's a scab you just love to pick and don't deny it.

2. You're much more trolllike than Cavs fan who has been a good posted here for a long time once he got over Lebron.

Per Chris Forsberg today re Rondo: "He is shooting 42 percent from 16-to-23 feet this season, which is virtually a career high. What's more, league average for PGs from that range is 39 percent. Rondo shoots 40 percent from 10-to-15 feet, but attempts less than a shot per game there this season." Posted by Mployee8

But then of course the eyes can see and tell us he can't shoot effectively at all from the outside. When has Rondo won a game with a shot from ten feet or more. He may shot slightly better but it does not stop other teams from laying off him at key points in games and making getting open for Pierce and Ray twice as hard.

Per Chris Forsberg today re Rondo: "He is shooting 42 percent from 16-to-23 feet this season, which is virtually a career high. What's more, league average for PGs from that range is 39 percent. Rondo shoots 40 percent from 10-to-15 feet, but attempts less than a shot per game there this season." Posted by Mployee8

I think certain aspects of Rajon Rondo's shooting have improved plus he can really guard quick players out on the perimeter. Rondo is still the better player. Will Kyrie ever be good at guarding quick players out on the perimeter. Maybe yes, Maybe no. Also Rondo has a passion to win. It was not good that he threw the ball at the official. But the foul that occured before the incident was ridiculous. The refs deserved to be shown up. No doubt the more appropriate way to handle the situation would have been for Danny to protest that play after the game. But in the heat of the moment the incident happened and nobody got hurt.

In Response to Re: Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : I think certain aspects of Rajon Rondo's shooting have improved plus he can really guard quick players out on the perimeter. Rondo is still the better player. Will Kyrie ever be good at guarding quick players out on the perimeter. Maybe yes, Maybe no. Also Rondo has a passion to win. It was not good that he threw the ball at the official. But the foul that occured before the incident was ridiculous. The refs deserved to be shown up. No doubt the more appropriate way to handle the situation would have been for Danny to protest that play after the game. But in the heat of the moment the incident happened and nobody got hurt. Posted by cavaliersfan

Rondo's still better than a 19 year old kid who's played 40 games combined in college and NBA?

In Response to Re: Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : That's my point... you wouldn't do it in a million years nor would any other Cavs fan. You are deliriously happy as well you should be for having a rising star, a real McCoy. You are rubbing it in simply because you can! A high-maintenance PG, Rondo is always trouble as you well know. We are green with envy. Congrats! PudPosted by puddinpuddin

I have never seen Cavsfan be rude to anyone. Always had good things to say about our team. Not sure where your coming from.

In Response to Re: Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : I have never seen Cavsfan be rude to anyone. Always had good things to say about our team. Not sure where your coming from.Posted by OneOnOne

One can be a troll without being rude.

I am always suspicious of fans from other teams who have things to say about issues very divisive at BDC.

Pud, hopefully the Celts will enjoy good health and make a strong finish. I want to root for the old geezers to go as far as they can in the Playoffs. I am no Spring chicken myself. Even if the Cavs could make the Playoffs, I don't expect them to get real far. Why can't somebody root for more than one team if they are respectful about the way they do it. Pud, you should temper your realism with positivity not negativity. Good vibrations, Mon! Maybe you could start listening to Reggae music.

In Response to Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : Irving is not only the best player on your team right now, but for the future as well. Why would you, or any Cavs fan, want that trade?Posted by soups

To say just that... that they wouldn't.

That's apparently the point of the thread... that and defending the latest misadventures of R9R if that makes any sense.

In Response to Theoretical Trade: Rondo For Kyrie Irving : Irving is not only the best player on your team right now, but for the future as well. Why would you, or any Cavs fan, want that trade?Posted by soups

Yes, Clevelanders would like to see how good Kyrie Irving could become but there is no guarantee he will as good as Rondo. Playing good defense requires lateral as well as moving backward quickness. Its not just adhereing closely to some great coaches defensive system. Some players are just not physically capable of playing great defense. Rondo is a proven offensive and defensive quality player. Believe me, if he came to Cleveland I would be happy to root for him. I just wanted to start a controversial thread. A lot of the threads going on right now have to do with fixing the Celtics so they can go on to competing for the Championship. I admit this thread does not conform to that mode but I meant no harm.