Does anyone care to give a step by step guide for getting into Asian Friend Finder or some other websites?

I'm sure its on the forum, but probably in little bits and pieces that would take us non-web savvy types a long time to piece together.

Perhaps one of the bro's who is expert in this area could write us a FAQ?

Jimbo

Vicky888

07-15-06, 04:03

Dear friend,

Based on my limited experience, Yahoo messenger is a very nifty tool. Try to get into Philippines chat rooms and chat with as many gals as possible. if they like you (which is not difficult provided u look passable) they shall give u their phone no:, contacts, and heck-even get naked. Off course, all of them hope you will come PI and spend some time (and money) on them. Which is perfectly fine by many of us for the GFE it provides. One word of caution: Don't spend online gifts or money without meeting them. Not worth it.

Good luck and happy hunting.

If some other experienced bros would be willing to share Ids of good 'available' gals, that'd be amazing.

Also, I dont know abt other sites AFF etc. Some pls elaborate.

Cheers

Holton Cowboy

07-15-06, 07:45

Does anyone care to give a step by step guide for getting into Asian Friend Finder or some other websites?

I'm sure its on the forum, but probably in little bits and pieces that would take us non-web savvy types a long time to piece together.

Perhaps one of the bro's who is expert in this area could write us a FAQ?

JimboSure just copy and paste this in your URL

www.asianfriendfinder.com

or

www.filipinofriendfinder.com

Now isn't that easy?? Filipino Friend Finder is the better one if you're looking for a Filipina only but both will have them.

Vicky888

07-16-06, 04:32

Hi holton,

Both these websites have paid subscription right?

Are there any other web sites or other methods if I dont want a paid subscription?

Thx

Eaglestar

07-17-06, 03:31

I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE or some times just http://asiafind.com.

This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.

I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.

Happy to answer further questions from anyone.

ES

J Boy

07-17-06, 14:08

I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE or some times just http://asiafind.com.

This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.

I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.

Happy to answer further questions from anyone.

ES

How do you use it? I can't even read profiles there.

Vicky888

07-17-06, 17:25

Hey ES,

Registered with this site. But the prob is the same. I can view other ppls profile but cant contact them until i "upgrade" to premium membership. Did u also pay up at least once earlier. Or am i missing some trick ?

Thx

I live in Shanghai and find it very difficult to access Asia Friend Finder, however there is an other URL that will access the same site successfully for me. It is http://asiafind.com/p/page.cgi?pid=p45128&site=ffz&ANON_CONFIRM=TRUE or some times just http://asiafind.com.

This is a free site but "premium" memberships are available. I do not use the premium memberships.

I have successfully used this site for over 3 years.

Happy to answer further questions from anyone.

ES

Nightrider1

07-18-06, 14:10

Yes Vicky888,

Thats the GREAT marketing of the internet dating sites. Sure you can join for free but you can't chat with anyone or contact them unless you PAY for the membership. The poor filipinas are all standard non-paying members and the only way to contact a standard member is for you to be a paid member. Pretty smart of the sites the way they hook you into joining for free and then make you pay to contact anyone. That being said I think they are still well worth the memebership. Lots of the girls have profile pics and as the Phil is sooo hot most are dressed in shorts or nice little outfits that show tummies and legs. Poor mans playboy, ha ha ha.

Zladdi

07-19-06, 16:50

Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(

http://www.babecam.info
or www.asianbabecams.com

I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)

Does anybody meet one of them there?

Hobby Knob

07-19-06, 22:58

Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(

http://www.babecam.info
or www.asianbabecams.com

I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)

Does anybody meet one of them there?Yes you can. I have, but it took quite a bit of investment before I saw her overthere. Had a great time. She fell in love. I do like her, but not ready to give up the freedom yet.

Others have agreed to meet, but I'm not sure they would have. Most I have befriended finally admit to it being a job and have "real" lifes outside ABC. (meaning, there mom isn't really sick or the father of her baby isn't really dead or an addict.) two common stories on ABC.

Its best to play the field when you are there. Much cheaper and less emotions involved.

Eaglestar

07-20-06, 02:36

Hey ES,

Registered with this site. But the prob is the same. I can view other ppls profile but cant contact them until i "upgrade" to premium membership. Did u also pay up at least once earlier. Or am i missing some trick ?

Thx

Yes, at one point I was a premium member but now just standard. I can send up to 10 messages in any given 24 hour period. I don't know if being a former premium member allows me to do this or not.

Sometimes if you are send to the page to upgrade if you click on "home" it will open the profile of the woman you want to contact and you can send a message.

Alternatively, I sometimes just open the instant messaging service and wait for some lovely to contact me there while I am doing other things on the net. Actually I am doing that now. If I am interested, I quickly switch to Yahoo or MSN messenger. Kinda like fishing. Throw the baited line in and wait for a bite. I have been told that any women who register a regular members but post one or maybe more photos are automatically upgraded to Silver status and that allows them to contact anyone.

I continue to have success there. See my post in the photo section about the chubby Shanghaiese married lady I nailed a few days ago.

Another tactic I use is to open the messenger service (not the HTML version), check the location by looking at the miles or km distance from me and page someone who lives in Shanghai or nearby I am interested in to chat. More work but I have had some success with this.

ES

Blink157

07-20-06, 07:12

Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(

http://www.babecam.info
or www.asianbabecams.com

I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)

Does anybody meet one of them there?

Hi,
as you said , most of them just there for the money and looking for a bf who support them, The gud ones have several bf who sent them money, plus their income in chats, plus gifts. They willing to meet you if they smell money, lol.

Some are just looking for a bf who take them out of the country and marry them, but they will also go for the big fish. Some made pretty gud gf (my gf is from this site and Im ok with her, she takes care of my business)

In general speaking, all this gurls are lookin for support and if you back in your own country, you have to support them and that can be also quite costly.

My advise is, before goin to PI chat some gurls up and see how they react, exchange ym id and try to meet them up for dinner, cinema, etc. and see how things work out. I feel not comfortable to take bargurls out for dinner, etc...cause I have a gf over there and mostly its not to interesting to have conversation to a bargurl after the deed is done, Its fun to talk to them in the bar and have a party, but when the party is over, thre isnt much left to say. In pinoy places its different, I had 2 gurls from there to be my gf. Im not judging them and I respect them, but Im always for a gud mix once I go to PI. Maybe Im gettin older (LOL)but Im not that kind of guy havin different gurls evry night (in BKK had different gurls during day lol).
I suggest a gud mix, so I chat gurls up before I go PI, then I have the bars, malls and lastly my gf. :)

Happy hunting!!

Man In Japan

07-21-06, 01:57

Here is some good reading about the scams at the friendfinder websites, they are all connected despite the name. http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search!&q5=friend+finder&Search=Search

As for meeting girls I agree that Yahoo chat is a great way to do it, I have met several girls this way. I hang-out in the Japan chat rooms and just wait for one of them to contact me. There are a lot of Filipina here thinking they will get some rich Japanese guy, people still think that all Japanese have money, definitely not true.

Also I know some guys that have hooked-up with the asianbabecam girls and the results were mixed. Yes he got laid but, he had to work a little harder and pay a little more than he would if she was a regular bargirl.

Steve74

07-21-06, 16:44

Are there any experiances with that abc girls? I found not so much with the search here :(

http://www.babecam.info
or www.asianbabecams.com

I mean it is a great business for them. But they not looking for relationship :)

Does anybody meet one of them there?I've used abc in the past when I was suffering from severe filipina withdrawal but I don't think its a great way to actually meet girls when you're visiting. For most of them its just their job and they want to make money, not meet old (usually fat & unattractive) foreign guys. They may say the want to meet you, but that's usually cause they want to get you to spend more money for private webcam sessions. There was one girls on there named wendy that suckered me in for a little while claiming she lived in angeles and wanted to meet me. Of course, she also hit me up for money with the sick father story so I didn't really believe her, but she was gorgeous & had an incredible body so i played along for a while. I don't think she's on there anymore, but I haven't looked at abc in a while. Anyway, if you just want to chat or get a private show, abc is fine, but if you want to meet a girl, just go to the philippines and hit the bars. Its much easier and cheaper that way.

Buko Max

08-04-06, 14:49

I mean it is a great business for them.
On the contrary, most abc girls don't make much money. Only the top models earn enough money to make it worth their time. Out of the $1.99 USD per minute the website charges, the models only get $0.20 per minute. There is also a start up fee they must pay back for the PC and internet connection.

One of the women I know shares her PC with two other models one of which is a ladyboy. She claims the bakla makes more money than the other two put together, a sad situation all around.

Dragon Slayer

08-13-06, 18:05

Pals,

I was wondering about abc. I spend a lot of time chasing lovely, young women in China and Hong Kong (chinese NOT filipinas here). abc means American Born Chinese. Anyway asian babe cam w___e is ok. To be honsest, I have found these women to be a total waste of time/money. They view us as naieve and stupid. They would do absolutely nothing without receiving payment. I have met several women in normal chat sites that ask for money just like the cyber tramps. In most instances when I refuse to send them money I never hear from them again.

There are a few in different parts of the Philippines, including Davao, my top "playground" for meeting asian pussy, that are "hanging tough". They realize that I will be returning soon and I am interested in meeting them. Thinking me to be the typical dumb fuck they encounter on the net (most cannot believe we are anything but stupid/naieve), they are anticipating a significant outlay of funds from me to them when we meet. They are in for a rude awakening.

First, I do believe that we "pay for it one way or another". But I do NOT pay without first getting the play. So, no fuckee the Slayer, no fucking money for the cyber tramp. It will not be the first time some little s__t showed up at my Hotel with "expectations the size of Alaska", only to sadly depart soon after empty handed. They either fuck me first and often or they can go fuck themselves.

One of these, a 22 y/o near Davao City (this region is full of cyber pros as it is very poor), is on cam for 2-4 hours every day, mostly in the morning Phil Time. I am working then in my Firm. I have the net open as I need it for my work and can see who comes on/offline while I am working. I have viewed her cam many times. She offers to go into a private room for $$ upfront. Gave me her phone number and after chatting with her about ten times I decided to call her one evening. I forgot to mention, she claims to be madly in love with me (my wallet is more like it). When I phoned her she asked first if I was Biil and then if I was Mike. Did not seem to understand when she answered and I said, Rose, hi this is ___ in _______.

The same can be said for the girl whose photo I listed in Davao a month ago. Miss Monroe is also near Davao. She works in a net cafe. Three nights ago she pulled up her blouse and bra and showed me her lovely tits on cam. She also offered to go to a private room and be totally nude. But she needed money up front. Not later or a promise, Money. Like Rose, she is 22 and she also claims to have a "deep love" for me. She also wants to stay with me in Davao and like Rose above, promises to fuck me all the time.

Next week we will see. Personally, I am not getting an erection on the expecttion of events. Nor am I compiling a wad of $20 bills or P1000 notes for them. Over the last five years that the internet has become "big time" in Asia, I have had little success with this kind of woman. The regular ladies I meet on the internet or elsewhere. The ones who never ask for money are the ones who I know will treat me good. The others can have their fill of the thousands of men who fall for their nonsense.

Dragon Slayer

Blink157

08-14-06, 08:08

Hi to all,
read post of DS and have to agree also.
Those gurls go for the bigger money, the more pretty , the more money, you have to spent some more money on them then u can score.

Im here in AC now and dated 3 gurls, one showed up in my hotel room in Manila, she worked pinoy club before, so you can screw her for bigger money.

The other gurl is hiding, cause she is afraid of bum2 (LOL).

The other gurl I met 2 times, she is also very pretty, if I score I post my experience with her in here.

Bargurls arent my taste, Im kinda chosy, but I have to admit now there are so many gurls here and not much tourist so its a great time for hunt, if they ask to much money for the deed , or just money upfront, forget them and move on.

Like my friend says, who live a long time allready in PI, all the gurls here are pretty, but u have to find out how pretty she is inside.......

Mattrick, read ur post, gurls earning between 10 and 20 pesos a minute, some studio bosses have quota , some not, the stunners earn gud money in chat, plus money from their boyfriends. when they in town, they meet for shopping etc...if the gurl likes you, more can happen.

Good money is 10 000 p a week or more...

Happy hunting!!!

Hobby Knob

08-14-06, 18:45

Hi to all,

I read post of DS and have to agree also.

Those gurls go for the bigger money, the more pretty , the more money, you have to spent some more money on them then you can score.

Im here in AC now and dated 3 gurls, one showed up in my hotel room in Manila, she worked pinoy club before, so you can screw her for bigger money.

The other gurl is hiding, cause she is afraid of bum2 (LOL).

The other gurl I met 2 times, she is also very pretty, if I score I post my experience with her in here.

Bargurls arent my taste, Im kinda chosy, but I have to admit now there are so many gurls here and not much tourist so its a great time for hunt, if they ask to much money for the deed , or just money upfront, forget them and move on.

Like my friend says, who live a long time allready in PI, all the gurls here are pretty, but you have to find out how pretty she is inside.

Mattrick, read your post, gurls earning between 10 and 20 pesos a minute, some studio bosses have quota , some not, the stunners earn gud money in chat, plus money from their boyfriends. when they in town, they meet for shopping etc. If the gurl likes you, more can happen.

Good money is 10 000 p a week or more.

Happy hunting!!!

The girl I met from ABC claimed to be making between 20k to 30 K a week from ABC. She was a more popular girl until she quit in feb. She now works only a little bit from her house, but her take is better. She changed her name to start "a new". She had too many "BF's" under her old name.

I managed to meet her twice. What an amazing time. Total GFE.

She did "fall in love" so she said. I had a great time with her, but... I'm not ready to go for just one pinay when I'm in the PI. Plus, she's too expensive. I don't pay her for the deed, but all the shopping and food when i'm there plus the "emergencies" when I'm not. It's just not worth it. I'm sure I'm not the only "Joe" supporting her (or was I should say)

Next trip, I'm going without "plans" and she what comes up! and maybe at the end, I'll surprise her and show up at her door. LOL

Bloveld

08-15-06, 04:14

Well I like the honesty of ABC. We all know its about the money. None of this lifetime partner BS.

But to make 30 K would mean 20 hours in a private chat at the 25 PHP per minute that I have been told they make.

Well I have spent a fair bit of time chatting to and checking out what I believe to be the hottest gals there, and I think that they would be very lucky to spend more than 40 minutes out of 8 hours in private chat.

Then again I might be looking at the wrong ones, it seems incredible how some of the less comely gals could make any money at all.

Anyway I have a bit of fun chatting to them. And if I can get off my lazy ass an visit Manila then I would certainly be lining up a couple to pay my respects.

Steve

Hobby Knob

08-15-06, 07:08

Well I like the honesty of ABC. We all know its about the money. None of this lifetime partner BS.

But to make 30 K would mean 20 hours in a private chat at the 25 PHP per minute that I have been told they make.

Well I have spent a fair bit of time chatting to and checking out what I believe to be the hottest gals there, and I think that they would be very lucky to spend more than 40 minutes out of 8 hours in private chat.

Then again I might be looking at the wrong ones, it seems incredible how some of the less comely gals could make any money at all.

Anyway I have a bit of fun chatting to them. And if I can get off my lazy ass an visit Manila then I would certainly be lining up a couple to pay my respects.

SteveYeah, some of them I wonder why they are working at all. The girl I was talking about was in Pvt almost all of the time. We would just chat on YM. she'd let me watch while she'd fuck with some other guy who thought she was his GF.

Spam Hog

08-16-06, 13:57

gentlemen:

Just my 2 cents on this topic pay for play and the closely related cyber tramps the ilk of which one finds plying her trade ala freelance on yahoo or whatever. READ VERY CAREEFULLY what The Dragon slayer says re cyber sluts this is a VERY good acessment of matters and a good response.

This is no personal attack against anyone here, but guys, it takes two to tango. I hear a lot of complaints about the mercenary aspect of the girls but actually "we" are the ones who have created this situation with the eagerness of some of us out there who are ever so willing to part with money so easily in hopes of forming a "relationship" Remember THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR MOST FILIPINAS who have absolutely no way of making a living.

Most girls I know work these guys like a carnival tout works a sucker. Every time I go into a public internet (especailly those in Toril or Matina Davao) I see three of four girls working the chat lines with five or six guys backed up on the screen. You should hear the things they say about these guys and how they trade info and work one against the other sheeeeesh!!!!!

I know there is a certain type out there who gets off on talking dirty to a woman, have her show some skin and jerk off, if that is your thing, fine, I suppose it is cheaper than the phone sex one finds in many western countries but my point is that many guys who don't know any better go looking for serious relationships with these bimbos and end up sending them a lot of money, this screws things up for joe average who is looking for something more, now the girls expect it and they get together and brag and exaggerate how much money they make and try to outdo each other etc.

I know it isn;t going to stop but the least you all can do is get together and hold down the price a bit, remember, these girls network and have an info system that rivals any intel network the CIA and NSA combined can come upwith.

That said it is simply not necessary to meet girls via the internet to "score" should you be in the Philippines, remmeber, You are a precious comonodity here, a walking talking ATM machine with a dick. Dress decently, talk nice act like a gentleman even if you aren't, make eye contact and smile, strike up a conversation on anything, learn a few words of Tagalog or Visayan.

Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.

Spamhog

MeatMan

08-20-06, 19:34

Dear friend,

Based on my limited experience, Yahoo messenger is a very nifty tool. Try to get into Philippines chat rooms and chat with as many gals as possible. if they like you (which is not difficult provided u look passable) they shall give u their phone no:, contacts, and heck-even get naked. Off course, all of them hope you will come PI and spend some time (and money) on them. Which is perfectly fine by many of us for the GFE it provides. One word of caution: Don't spend online gifts or money without meeting them. Not worth it.

Good luck and happy hunting.

Cheers

Hell, most of the time, they'll come finding you instead of finding them, there all over the Yahoo chatrooms!:eek:

J Boy

08-21-06, 21:29

Hell, most of the time, they'll come finding you instead of finding them, there all over the Yahoo chatrooms!:eek:

I am not too computer savvy. I use yahoo messenger and yahoo groups but how do I get in the chat rooms and which ones are best for the Manila area?

X Man

08-22-06, 14:51

I had the same feeling. I searched for "yahoo chat" and got some links, went to PI chat. In the room someone was using huge letters to say, "Wnt grl to sk my dk".

Well, maybe there are good chat rooms and bad. I wish someone could elaborate.

To be honest, I increasingly feel like any contribution to this lisst is a waste of time. I get people insulting me or asking stupid questons. "what's her phone number???" Oh, of the 30+ girls I've posted here, which girl? Duh?

Martians

08-22-06, 15:10

Me and my mates find there are several types who use yahoo chat and easily the best types are English slapper freebies (we live here) and straightforward hookers in Asia. You can play them with no comeback. The amount of money some of them make and ask for is unreal.

As for Friendster, the Pinoys own it. Go to any country. I tried Gambia, Pinoys everywhere looking for true love with some sucker.

Pay for play is better. Fuck them and then pay them to leave. Hookers epxect that but ordinary slappers sometimes get offended with a few bob and a friendly slap on the arse.

J Boy

08-22-06, 16:24

I had the same feeling. I searched for "yahoo chat" and got some links, went to PI chat. In the room someone was using huge letters to say, "Wnt grl to sk my dk".

Well, maybe there are good chat rooms and bad. I wish someone could elaborate.

To be honest, I increasingly feel like any contribution to this lisst is a waste of time. I get people insulting me or asking stupid questons. "what's her phone number???" Oh, of the 30+ girls I've posted here, which girl? Duh?

Don't let it get you down X Man. Just remember loud mouths have more to spout off about than the regular guys but there are regular fuys here who appreciate good info and stories.

Martians

08-22-06, 16:43

X man: Soldier on. Web shopping is becoming more popular. And pussy shopping has always been popular. With good guys like you, we can all be more discerning shoppers.

Of course there are loads of pervs on the Net. Most of us will have been in SE Asian Internet cafes sititng beside chicks with guys jacking off on the screens in front of them. I pity the women but most of them see them as the sick fucks that they are. I have scored a few babes by commenting on the sick fucks. I offer them a dick to cry on.

Frankly though, I prefer straight p4p. But the Net is impossilble to ignrore. Anyway this post was just to back up J Boy and thank you for your efforts. From little acorns.

Surfer

08-22-06, 20:38

GREAT words of wisdom here from DS and SH. I particularly like this bit:

Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.

Spamhog

VERY clever sir. Shall try it (If I have any free time)

Frequent Flier

08-26-06, 23:43

gentlemen:

Just my 2 cents on this topic pay for play and the closely related cyber tramps the ilk of which one finds plying her trade ala freelance on yahoo or whatever. READ VERY CAREEFULLY what The Dragon slayer says re cyber sluts this is a VERY good acessment of matters and a good response.

This is no personal attack against anyone here, but guys, it takes two to tango. I hear a lot of complaints about the mercenary aspect of the girls but actually "we" are the ones who have created this situation with the eagerness of some of us out there who are ever so willing to part with money so easily in hopes of forming a "relationship" Remember THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR MOST FILIPINAS who have absolutely no way of making a living.

Most girls I know work these guys like a carnival tout works a sucker. Every time I go into a public internet (especailly those in Toril or Matina Davao) I see three of four girls working the chat lines with five or six guys backed up on the screen. You should hear the things they say about these guys and how they trade info and work one against the other sheeeeesh!!!!!

I know there is a certain type out there who gets off on talking dirty to a woman, have her show some skin and jerk off, if that is your thing, fine, I suppose it is cheaper than the phone sex one finds in many western countries but my point is that many guys who don't know any better go looking for serious relationships with these bimbos and end up sending them a lot of money, this screws things up for joe average who is looking for something more, now the girls expect it and they get together and brag and exaggerate how much money they make and try to outdo each other etc.

I know it isn;t going to stop but the least you all can do is get together and hold down the price a bit, remember, these girls network and have an info system that rivals any intel network the CIA and NSA combined can come upwith.

That said it is simply not necessary to meet girls via the internet to "score" should you be in the Philippines, remmeber, You are a precious comonodity here, a walking talking ATM machine with a dick. Dress decently, talk nice act like a gentleman even if you aren't, make eye contact and smile, strike up a conversation on anything, learn a few words of Tagalog or Visayan.

Try one of the Spamhogs tried and true methods, decend upon a local internet filled with cuties, hover about like a predatory bird, a find yon maid who is working the chat lines, obtain said damsels email, sing on and go to work. When she asks where you are....right next to you my dear, do you want to stay in this cafe and chat or have lunch/dinner etc with me...look over and smile... works like a charm.

Spamhog

All very true Mr. Hog.

Not that you needed my confirmation, just thought I would add my 2 peso. I had this one girl in yahoo chat, in the Mindanao section for everyone's reference. This one girl almost immediately hit me for chat and within about 1 minute was asking me if I wanted to see her naked? I said of course, she then proceeded to ask for the money. I explained that I could not trust that I would get to see her if I sent money first, she gave in and proceeded to give a me pretty good show. Nice tits and nipples. Of course I said I was going to send the money, which I never did..sorry guys for being an ass and ruining it for the next guy.

The next time I logged on Yahoo messenger I had about 10 girls who had sent me IM's. This girl must have told them she had a winner before she realized that I did not send money. I chatted with some of the girls over the next week or so and they all wanted to do cam sex for money in the cafe they were in. Very open about it and they all started the negotiating at 100 US dollars, but quickly went down to accepting 40 US dollars. I never did take them up on the offer though.

Good luck and have fun

FF

Spam Hog

08-27-06, 11:32

One should not feel bad and one bears no ill onus for getting a cyber freebie
off the web cammers . Actually it is the other way around IMHO, I dont like seeing the unwitting western male being played for a sucker, that is the main reason I post my drivel about cyber sluts as a caution. You would be suprised how many guys fall for the cyber babe routine.

So If F.F.or any of the other brethern get a free show once in a while good.
The girls DO trade info on hot "clinets", who pays what to see what. (and who doesn;t pay!). Also you can reverse the bitches and use several different Yahoo alias just like they do. Sometimes they steal the guys info from each other. I seen a few interesting cat fights in cyber cafes over this one...amusing!. But remember the girls LOVE to exaggerate how much money they get so that is why the "$100 routine".

I think elsewhere I mentioned CB, Im always down on that place reason is that is where you find a lot of the TV's plying their trade. I could tell of five or six incidents in Davao alone. One Byot was using pix from a former Miss Philippines, had some poor schmuck all ready to come to Davao and marry "it". There is a famous Byot who works the guys out of General Santos.
Always beware of some fishy dame who is web camera shy and uses the name "rose" as "her" handle. Apparently the byots have some sort of code worked out using this name. Sweetrose, babyrose etc.

And it isn;t just the byots either, I hope the web master has no problem with me puting this out but the infamous Judy Altraca was said to have amased a fotune (she has houses in Davao) off the Web cam, to CB's credit they banned her and published her info as a warning but a lot of the girls took a cue from her after hearing of all the fabulous riches she obtained by deluding love sick men.

These are just a few of the "horror stories" I know of (Factual), I'm sure most guys on this board could probably tell the same.

So gentlemen as the wise man once said;

Caveat Emphor!

Regards

Spamhog

Starchild2012

08-28-06, 14:40

from where i come I treasure the girls even if i get cheated....:)..here in my place..its like taliban censored life..and im talking about india..no pussies no freebies..its soo frustatiing to make a girl friend here and no pussy till i get married and that too arranged :(

philiphine is a paradise for me..even with cheating :D..ateast we have options..with all its negativities...it still a hot f u c kng place for fu ck ...I love it..it just takes me five minutes to pick a girl in cebu from a cafe...Initially...i used to surf around the net from home...now i just lurk the cafe and pick the most hot looking girl...

its soo easy...just stalk around by evening in cafes and spot a girl.... wait for her to come out and follow her ..mostly girl who come out of cafe does not have any work..they come out when the money gets over...they are waiting for some other thing but nothing really to do....just go and talk to her and she is yours...

just be a mindless moron in philiphines...i just love the fact that..i had to use so little of my brain to get a girl here..its like learning ABCD again..

really...we require 1/10th of our useless brain to score here and i love the fact that here women are mostly innocent and very open to a stranger or tourist....they are just ready to do everything in five minutes...not just sex..but be a really good friend ...they are simply the greatest women in the world....hats off to philipino women...

with all the positive i see here...I don't care if i get cheated 100 times....cos i had the worse days back home, where women use there heads more than their feminity and are selfish to the core....even if u pay them ..they do not give good service...

the women here are just after your money if u feel cheated...but if you give them money...u will never ever be disappointed..they will fuck u in turns...

i wish i could live and die in philiphines...fucking a virgin each day...:)

im just envy you guys for living and fucking in the philiphines...:D

Klon15

09-03-06, 19:11

I would like your comments on the following:

I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.

Thanks for your time

K

Frequent Flier

09-04-06, 06:43

I would like your comments on the following:

I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.

Thanks for your time

K

I say it all depends on the situation. What are your intentions? Do you see her as a guaranteed piece of A**, so hope to bring her in to have some sexual fun as many times as possible? If so then do not send her any money and save it for Manila as there will be plenty of fish in the sea for you to have fun with.

Is the she the one? Has she asked for money yet? If so then forget her. If not then consider some other options. You can buy here the ticket online and she can pick up the ticket and fly. No refunds, so if she doesn't show then you lose but she gains nothing. If you offer to buy the ticket so she can pick it up at the airport and she says this is a problem for her, then dump her as she only plans to keep you money.

How far from Manila does she live? Is a bus ride more than a day for her? If not then send her enough for a bus ride. Much less money invested this way.

FF

Harvey WB

09-04-06, 15:01

I flew a girl from MNL to Cebu for a weekend in 2000, as I missed meeting her (took 17 days for a postcard to go from Makati to Sta Mesa about 6 miles away, LOL) and I wasn't going back to MNL before flying home. Put her up in her own room, total cost about $100, but we got to meet, we're still friends today and she's met my wife. What the He**, why not, if the $$$ isn't an issue.

Andresb

09-04-06, 15:18

It is nice to see a success story. I flew over to Manila to meet my future wife but God was kind enought that I saw her pic with her philippino boyfriend in friendster so I did not make that mistake. What a little ****!

Congratulations

I flew a girl from MNL to Cebu for a weekend in 2000, as I missed meeting her (took 17 days for a postcard to go from Makati to Sta Mesa (about 6 miles away, LOL) and I wasn't going back to MNL before flying home. Put her up in her own room, total cost about $100, but we got to meet, we're still friends today and she's met my wife. What the He**, why not, if the $$$ isn't an issue.

Andresb

09-04-06, 15:19

Look her up in friendster or myspace.com by name or email before you commit. The Philippinas I have met so far (4), have been cheaters.

I would like your comments on the following:

I have been chatting with a filipina for some time. Now I have to go to Manila, work related. She is not from manila, and I mentioned it to her. Now she wants to meet me, but, ofcourse, she has no money. Is it advisable to by her a, non-refundable, plane-ticket. Should I concider it a 1400pp high-risk investment or just say no.

Thanks for your time

K

Klon15

09-04-06, 16:20

Thank you all for your coments, they were very helpfull.

K

Mayntain

09-05-06, 04:28

I recall most guys saying when they sign up for CB,they get hundreds of emails from filipno girls. So I said what the hell.I'll give it a try also. So I sign up,and immediately I started recieveing emails from women interested in getting to know me. But I did not pay the fee and sign up,but the emails kept coming for a few days. And then they tailed off to nothing.I started wondering could some of these girls be on their payroll somehow? Nah, maybe im just paranoid!

X Man

09-05-06, 11:06

I have met and bonked women I met at CB. I've even gotten a bit serious with a few. Some that I have either met or somehow confirmed...law school student, real estate agent, call center employee, factory workers, etc...

Sometimes they have as many as 250 women in the chat room a time. There may be some scammers and *****s in the mix, but I try not to discriminate agains women of low character. In fact, I rather enjoy them.

I used CB for quite a while and the number of contacts was overwhelming. I had to stop! I also calculate that I could have saved money if I had never subscribed and just paid bar fines.

As for Maytain, you may not be getting so many contacts now because you havent been ONLINE at the site. Log into the site and those 250 ladies see you online...they check out your profile...they send you the smiles. Unfortunately, you can't make contact if you haven't paid.

X

Proliberalist

09-05-06, 12:29

For the uninitiated,

Gents can you please clarify what the CB stand for?

I must be slow.

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Manfest

09-05-06, 16:39

For the uninitiated,

Gents can you please clarify what the CB stand for?CB = Cherry Blossoms

It is a well established marriage website.

Hobby Knob

09-06-06, 05:10

Decided to try out Cherry Blossoms just as an experiment. Not gonna join.

Its been 30 minutes and I have two e-mails from 2 different girls but the message is exactly the same.Word for Word.

"Hi ***** I saw your profile and I wanted to send you a smile and a note ....."

What a Joke!

Finrod

09-06-06, 05:32

I don't see any mention of this site so I thought I'd say something about it. This is one of those sites where you have to pay, then the girls can contact you and chat you up. When I was in Makati for several weeks, that's how I met most of the girls I was with. They charge GBP 15.99 for one month, but for the quantity I met, I thought it was worth it. You don't need to search, the girls will find you when you log in. They will readily give you their yahoo chat name and their mobile numbers. You can pick and choose from there. The search and chat facilities are acceptable. It's possible to find yourself chatting with too many girls at once. As I was already in Makati at the time, I would screen them based on location, as in, would I get to meet them or not.

There are girls only looking for marriage and girls only looking for p4p but pretending otherwise. And everything in between. You just have to sound them out during the chat. Warning, there are a few guys posing as women here, but not that many. They don't look as realistic as they do in Thailand, but forewarned is forearmed.

The bad news is that if banging and leaving is your thing, this might not be good especially if you are a "pogi" gentleman who treats them well since the girls will often fall in love with you and your wallet, then get real clingy and jealous. If that bothers you, you should stick to the p4p scene.

Harvey WB

09-06-06, 11:46

That's probably just how "Smile" works, limited to a canned message.

CB used to be free for men, met a lot of nice people there in Chat, the real place to meet in CB.

CB is free to ladies, including Chat.

Surfer

09-06-06, 13:17

a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).

X Man

09-06-06, 14:01

Hmmm, since we were talking about Cherry blossom, I thought cb would be obvious. Sorry

Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.

There is another site one of the ladies told me about. EuroAsia or asiaeuro...something like that.

Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.

I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.

X

Finrod

09-06-06, 16:48

Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.

Yes, many of the girls who contacted me by chat or email were from Mindanao. Cagayan de Oro, Ozamis City, Davao, Cotabato, etc., were typical cities listed in their profiles. I didn't spend much time with them as I was not headed that way on this trip. But maybe next time? You will also find a lot of girls from Cebu as well. I did go there and meet some of them.

Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.

I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.

X
Since I am no longer paid at FH, I am hiding my profile there. Since I won't be back in the Phils for a long while, that might work as far as appearing fresh when I do reappear in preparation for my return. On the other hand, if someone here points me to a better site, I can go that way instead.

X makes a very good point here about the girls being registered in more than one place. It's practically all free to them so of course they will. We who have to spend money usually need to be choosier. So I'm glad this thread is available to discuss our results.

Surfer

09-07-06, 00:04

Some overlap perhaps, but I think the majority are on only one site (plus new ones join all the time). Only issue with Xman's idea is that on CB it states the date you created your profile AND the last time you updated it. Agreed there are VERY few on CB from Luzon, somewhat surprising as there is so much more web access but not surprising in that they have other ways to meet foreigners that are lacking in the bundoks (a Tagalog word that made its way into English lexicon as opposed to the MUCH more common adoption of English words by Tagalog).

Hobby Knob

09-09-06, 17:34

a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).Guess you're right. I don't know the site since I've never used it before.

20 e-mails so far, but I have to say I'm not impressed with the quality of talent.

I get much better just winging it over there.

HenryV

09-10-06, 17:02

As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.

Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.

The results were as follows:

Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.

It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.

Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.

Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.

It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.

Finrod

09-11-06, 07:49

Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.

My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).

I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.

So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.

X Man

09-11-06, 12:19

Billpsu broke it down to one lady per city, but I would suggest one lady per day...and keep those other email addresses and phone numbers. Some of the luckiest encounters I had were with ones rather low on the list...but were willing to meet within hours of my message...and spread their legs a few hours after that!

I would suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman you'll be meeting other women, and I also suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman she's the only one. Keep your cards close to your chest, know when to fold and when to hold....

As for the lady who just wanted to "sleep". Hmmm, risky, but go for it. You'll be in the same bed and light touching / kissing would be expected. But respect her wishes and cut things off FIRST...before she does. Very important...stop the action before she stops the action. In the morning (if she holds out that long), she may have new respect for you....not to mention a whole night of foreplay.

I did this one night. I quickly agreed to her concerns about sex (not having it). I presented the attitude that I could care less if I had sex with her (this attidue is easy to present when in SEA). I used the process in the above paragraph. By turning off the pressure before she did, I was always able to notch it up a bit each time for the next "round" of intimacy. Before the night was over I had my tongue halfway up her honey hatch and got her to "lick" some lollipop. I earned her trust by keeping my promise. Intercourse didn't occur.

The next day I took another risk. I agreed to go two hours out of town to her family reunion (holiday season)...at which time she unexpectedly asked her father if she could "accompany" me.

We had a fun two days on Bohol, with her father's permission. Intercourse occurred whenever I had the slightest urge! What a good girl! She has a regular job...not a pro by any means.

***If you have limited time, as Bilpsu had, these strategies are probably not for you. I also had limited time, but have been to the Philippines enough times that I wanted some different expericences.

As for Billpsu's Davao girl, I had something similar happen in Cebu. She was stunning, but actually cancelled the date after I was already at the meeting place. Heart breaking!

X

As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.

Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.

The results were as follows:

Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.

It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.

Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.

Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.

It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.

X Man

09-11-06, 12:42

Good stuff from Finrod.

My policy is that the first meeting should be in a coffee shop or food court at the mall. It's cheap, and non threatening for everyon. DO NOT let her think for a minute that she owns you or can control you. If she suggests some expensive seafood restaurant, refuse. Duh, that's common sense for Western women as well. Do not be a desperate wussy! (no offense to anyone intended....)

Good for Finrod, but I did NOT have good luck scheduling more than one a day. This may be simply because I'm too good hearted. On two occasions, I met a really hot girl in the afternoon, but then excused myself to meet the evening girl. It didn't seem right to me to cancel the evening date, although hindsight tells me I should have. If I do this again, I will try to have a good excuse set up beforehand so as not to give intended target a perceived rejection. Or maybe I should just be cold blooded and cancel the evening date.

And if you are so lucky as to be able to schedule repeat visits to PI, by all means keep the phone numbers, keep in touch.

Patience is sometimes very rewarding.

X

Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.

My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).

I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.

So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.

X Man

09-11-06, 15:13

This one strikes me as odd. First, she is 5'5 and only 100 lb. I know that sounds anorexic to some of you, but it's what I like. But look at the pictrue!

The only way this lady is 100lb is if she's 4'11.

She also writes TWICE that "love is blind". Well, us happily divorced guys know what this means, but I think she's trying to say "any old ugly git will do".

Or maybe the person writing the profile isn't the person in the picture. Who knows.

x

X Man

09-11-06, 15:28

All indications are that this one is for real. She no longer posts this picture...has toned things down a bit for obvious reasons.

Now rolls with the Makati movers and shakers..... Chatted a bit with her and she's obviously intelligent. Never met her though, so this post may be worth the paper it's printed on.

NOTE* I'm really sorry to insult 95% of you with this most OBVIOUS warning, but please, PLEASE, if you know this woman, there is no need to post her name here.

NO names please! If you want to gossip, send me pm.

x

Finrod

09-11-06, 19:49

When I had a girl meet me for coffee or drinks, I would say something like "we'll have something to drink and see how it goes", implying that the date was a short one.

Whether or not I was doing two dates in a day, I always implied to the girl that I had a time limit because I had other plans later. You're under no obligation to say what they are if she asks. Answer the question with a joke or bust on her for asking. She doesn't own you or control you. And remember if you didn't have any plans later, you can always "ditch" them if things look good with her. If you had chemistry with the girl on the afternoon date, best thing to do is give her the gift of missing you.

Most of my dates knew I was meeting other girls, I made no effort to hide that. Most of the time, they understood even if they didn't like it, but some did show a jealous streak. If some girl does try to control you, no need to put up with that no matter how hot she is, there are more where she's from.

Of course all this requires time and patience. If that is in short supply with you, then you may be better off doing p4p. Plenty of places reported in the other threads.

X-man, good luck with that girl in your last post.

Titmouse

09-14-06, 13:31

Doh! I just opened this folder for the first time. I've posted three pre-reports under General Info on my preparation and plans for the trip to the Philippines that begins tonight!

I've been using Cherry Blossoms with great success -- at least online. We shall see. There are always fall backs. Anyway, if you're interested, check out my preliminary reports on General Info under Titmouse.

I'm no longer a paying memeber at CB, but I still have many contacts, phone numbers and pictures .... it's overwhelming.

X

Hobby Knob

09-22-06, 08:36

I had an old friend of mine tell me that her studio was busted today and it was on the news. I wont say what part of manila it was in for their protection.

Anybody see this? I'll watch the abs-cbn news in the morning.

Mahku

09-22-06, 18:58

Cherry Blossoms has been a gold mine of pussy for me in almost all parts of the Philippines, and continues to be so here in Jakarta.

It's true that there are lots of scammers and gold diggers. When I find out I just drop them, period. There are plenty of good ones. Even the ones who say they only want marriage will often settle for serial monogamy. I'm always honest about the fact that I'm meeting other girls, and it never seems to hinder me in my mission. I've found that it does pay to have several girls, ideally at least 3, in each town that you visit. That way if some girls don't work out or stand you up you will have backups.

ToroRojo

09-23-06, 15:40

I have been e-mailed by an old friend from ABC who says she now works at jasminewild.com but I have been unable to pull up this site.

Has anyone heard of this? Maybe she spelled it wrong?

Thanks

Hobby Knob

09-23-06, 16:30

I have been e-mailed by an old friend from ABC who says she now works at jasminewild.com but I have been unable to pull up this site.

Has anyone heard of this? Maybe she spelled it wrong?

ThanksTry jasminelive.com

Spam Hog

09-24-06, 10:56

I think I've mentioned this one before, dont see a lot of response from you guys on this one but it is LOADED with PI kitties looking to chat, cyber sex etc. Lots of hookers working this one. a few regular girls looking to snag a foreigner BF/Husband and bored young ladies who like watching guys jerk off for money. I knew two girls who were working this site in CDO and one girl in Davao. All were cyber sexing and would meet and do the wild thing fo the right price.

You have to register at the site and you have to pay to be able to email the girls direct but some publish their cell number and get away with it. Go to "other ocuntries" click on phils, click on catagory (women looking for men)
about three thousand listings grouped regionally.

Spamhog

Buko Max

09-27-06, 09:40

Sounds like it is worth a try. Since adultfriend finder is affiliated with asiafriend finder and also filipinofriend finder, can you access the same data base of women? I've heard some discouraging feedback with AFF from other posters. But I suppose there are always pitfalls with these types of websites.

X Man

09-27-06, 16:23

"im just looking for a husband who can give me and my child a good life. im just searching for real love and a real respondible husband"

I'm no longer a paying member at cb, but I would be a little hesitatnt about a woman who needs a respondible man.

X

Panchax57

09-28-06, 19:17

I am planning to go to Gensan over the holidays. Its just amazing the number of girls i have met, who, after a little sweet talk, even on the first chat, who are willing to bare their bodies, to show your the goods, AND I NEVER ASKED FOR SUCH A SHOW, EVER.

However, who am I to complain?

Try getting that in the good ole USA!

X Man

09-29-06, 13:47

Congrats on your first post Panchax. I don't think anyone has done a review of GSC lately, so it'll be interesting to hear about that. I don't know how long you have, but GSC isn't far from Davao. It's a pretty cool place. Check out the Davao thread ... if you haven't already. I will be in Davao around Jan 1, so send me a pm with your email address or Philippines phone number and maybe we can hook up, drink cold beverages, and share stories.

What chat rooms are you referring to? Just Yahoo? X

I am planning to go to Gensan over the holidays. Its just amazing the number of girls i have met, who, after a little sweet talk, even on the first chat, who are willing to bare their bodies,
!

Panchax57

09-29-06, 15:42

Congrats on your first post Panchax. I don't think anyone has done a review of GSC lately, so it'll be interesting to hear about that. I don't know how long you have, but GSC isn't far from Davao. It's a pretty cool place. Check out the Davao thread ... if you haven't already. I will be in Davao around Jan 1, so send me a pm with your email address or Philippines phone number and maybe we can hook up, drink cold beverages, and share stories.

What chat rooms are you referring to? Just Yahoo? XThanks X Man!

Yes, first time poster, long time lurker.

I am traving to Gensan for a sort of business trip, as i am in the Fish Supply Industry, and also to see two old friends, from NY, who reside in Gensan, both in the same line of work there.

This will my very first time in Phils, as i have mostly traveled to only HK in the past.

I have chatted with a number of ladies, looking for some female company while in Gensan, mostly thru both the Philipine chatrooms and regular Yahoo Romace chat. Some have been outstanding chat mates, while others seem just to be looking for a sugar daddy (I.E. Westener)

I will send you a pm soon, as i would love to share a drink, swap some stories with you, as well as perhaps get some pointers as a first time visiter to the Philipines

Hobby Knob

09-30-06, 07:09

OK, I know about CB and ABC and I use Yahoo to chat with friends I know but...

Where do you go to "Meet" girls in Yahoo chat. I went to asian connections but didnt get too far.

Buko Max

09-30-06, 23:59

Where do you go to "Meet" girls in Yahoo chat. I went to asian connections but didnt get too far.
Hello HK,

Thats not a stupid question because it really is not evident.
While in YM click on messenger. In the drop down menu click on yahoo chat.
Then click 'join a room'. The yahoo chat menu should appear.
In the categories menu, DOUBLE click on regional (the sub menu comes up).
Click on Philippines and you have 8 rooms to pick from.

Panchax57

10-02-06, 00:00

I have had just as much luck using Yahoo Romace chat, as well as Philipines Yahoo chat.

Two things that i have discovered, that may be of some help and/or interest.

The girls in Philipine Chatrooms tend to be much younger, if that is your kind of thing, but most wont tend to IM you first, as the older ladies in regular Romace chatrooms, have been know to do ( at least, thats been my observation in the past ).

Also, take into account the time zone difference. If you are looking for ladies from the far east, lets say you are chatting at 5 pm EST, most of these ladies will be in slumberland, as it will be 5 am in the Phils.

I have have my best luck chatting with filipinas at 4 am, till maybe lunchtime, EST

Spam Hog

10-04-06, 08:21

I have had just as much luck using Yahoo Romace chat, as well as Philipines Yahoo chat.

Two things that i have discovered, that may be of some help and/or interest.

The girls in Philipine Chatrooms tend to be much younger, if that is your kind of thing, but most wont tend to IM you first, as the older ladies in regular Romace chatrooms, have been know to do ( at least, thats been my observation in the past ).

Also, take into account the time zone difference. If you are looking for ladies from the far east, lets say you are chatting at 5 pm EST, most of these ladies will be in slumberland, as it will be 5 am in the Phils.

I have have my best luck chatting with filipinas at 4 am, till maybe lunchtime, EST

Pan:

Just a few things, you mention going to gen San regarding the fish business
(I would assume tuna as that is THE big industry there) Used to live in Davao and traveled to Gen San a few times. I drove it by car but best way is to get there by bus,(Unless you got one of the smaller airlines like asian spirit that may be flying there) just be careful and travel during the day. You will undoubtedly go thru Digos. Reason I mention both places as to my knowledge there are a LOT of kitties in those places seeking western BF/Husband etc. Those places get almost NO western male tourists so U are a novelty . Any time I went to GS or Digos I was SWAMPED with flirty, friendly, young lovelies who wanted to be the next Mrs Spamhog.

A word of caution, I know of a network of Byots, some who dress as TV's and are working the chat lines in GS and DIGOS. The most infamous being one who uses the online handle as something rose something (example sweetrose, babyRose etc) Confirm you identities online!

PS lots of Japanese go to GS and buy tuna direct for the sushi trade, they have their own network of course, but I always saw them accompanied by a gaggle of girls.

Good luck you in for a treat!

Spamhog

Surfer

10-04-06, 21:03

I saw VERY few in Jakarta on Cherryblossoms (Mahku must be more diligent in his search than I am). TONS in the PRC, but I am not really into Chinese girls. Quite a few from Peru, surprisingly. There are some from Colombia but TERRIBLE quaslity; if Latin America is your aim cybercupido.com blows doors on these others (ALL the afdultfriendfinder sites are ripoffs from every report I have heard-until SpamHog's positive one below) but you must communicate in Spanish (you can cheat by using freetranslation.com).

But 90% of the girls on CB are in the PI.

The big surprise from my 90 days on CB was meeting a 30Yo non pro in Thailand who calls me virtually every day (since I gave her my cell number). I will go spend a week with her December before spending Xmas with my honeyko in Mindanao.

Never had any need for the yahoo chatrooms, though some CB girls ask you to meet them there (I drop them when they suggest that). By avoiding AFF and yahoo, I think you reduce the % of girls who are pros and scammers.

Martians

10-04-06, 23:49

I have fucked several women from yahoo chat. I also find the scammers a great source of information and many of them now know that. I play them along too and I have got great leads from them.

There must be entire cafes devoted to scamming. I have c2cd two girls in the same cafe and heard them compare notes with everyone in the room. Spend a few hours on c2c and you will see plenty of Pinoy women parading themselves like so many pieces of mutton.

One recent babe was so fast off the mark looking for money she shocked me. I like to time how quickly they take to mention Western Union and similar services.
I also try to phone their cell phones to establish trust before stringing them along some more.

Spamhog mentions some backward places in Mindanao. They are long ways to go for a bit of pussy and a fight with Japanese tuna hunters. Of course one would be an oddity there as, wtf would anyone want to go there for? It is not that free pussy in in short supply.

I regard the cafes as cheap entertainment for many of the ladies with a bit of upside of roping in a sucker. Good luck to them I say.

Finally, a bit of good internet news. I lived in Latin America many years ago and I had a very pretty maid who had a little baby when I left. Her sister contacted me by email today. Now what a strange world it is when the poorest of the poor can track you down over the Internet.

X Man

10-06-06, 16:29

One thing that is often seen as a problem is the chaperone. Some of the ladies will ask, “Can I bring a friend/cousin/sister?” You will find guys who say they would absolutely refuse. On a second date (assuming time is limited as it is with me) I tend to agree. But, there are some good reasons to go along with the chaperone idea.

First, the chaperone may be hotter than the target (the chat friend). This creates a dilemma of course, but there is a solution. It’s called a camera. Take pictures and then offer to send the pictures. Get all their email addresses. While they’re writing, ask for the phone number too. Of course this would work best when target is off in the CR. If things don’t work out with target…well, you know what to do. Sorry to state the obvious, but this would probably work better with “friends of target” rather than “sister of target”. For me, I make repeat visits, so I’m not targeting the friend the next night ~ although, I’m sure it has been done.

Second, the chaperone may be the only way target is able to meet you. Ha, ha, if you’re still reading this far, I saved the best for last. You might thing someone who needs a chaperone is over protected, so not worth your time…right? Duh. In every chaperone situation that I’ve had, the chaperone was older, wiser, more experienced, and was in no way interfering with the romance, other than the fact that she was THERE. In many cases, the chaperone was pushing (emotionally or verbally or physically) the target toward me.

scenario A: Target and chaperone “friend” came down from Bulacan to Manila. Target was very attractive, but super shy. Friend was about 5 foot, 80lb despite pumping out a kid. I like them slim, but she was almost anorexic. Chaperone was good fun talking to, and I would have loved to get rid of the target and play with the munchkin. The target was annoying the hell out of me. She couldn’t talk…one word answers to questions. We all ended up in my room after dinner, but things weren’t going well. I excused myself and went to LA café. Target sends texts…seemed to be the only way she could communicate. I ignored. I came back to the room quite late, but I was rewarded for my nonchalance...I got a good screw out of the target. The chaperone respectfully pretended to be asleep during the entire episode.

Bizarlly, I wake up a few hours later and both are dressed and ready to leave (about 6:30). Chaperone has to run her sari sari store. I ask target to stay (morning hard on) but no, she wants to go with chaperone. Chaperone drops her phone at this time and it no longer works. She’s been trying to call somebody who owes her money at the sari sari store. I’m still disoriented, still with some stinky on my dinky…I begin to wonder if I’m in a David Lynch movie.

Chaperone emailed me several months later to say she wanted to spend some time with me. Last I heard the chaperone is in Saudi Arabia and the target is working in a coffee shop in Angeles.

In this scenario, there is no way I would have laid this girl if the chaperone had not cooperated. The target basically did what the chaperone told her to do.

Mahku

10-07-06, 04:37

I saw VERY few in Jakarta on Cherryblossoms (Mahku must be more diligent in his search than I am). TONS in the PRC, but I am not really into Chinese girls. Quite a few from Peru, surprisingly. There are some from Colombia but TERRIBLE quaslity; if Latin America is your aim cybercupido.com blows doors on these others (ALL the afdultfriendfinder sites are ripoffs from every report I have heard-until SpamHog's positive one below) but you must communicate in Spanish (you can cheat by using freetranslation.com).

You're right that the number of Indonesian girls in CB is small. I guess I just got lucky, especially the one Muslim girl who seems to get extra horny in Ramadan. CB worked out fairly well in China, and was a smashing success in the Philippines.

Thanks for the tip on cybercupido. My 2 months in South America starts on Oct. 25th. I'm not expecting much from there in CB, just one Peruvian girl who actually isn't a member there anymore.

About chaperones, I agree with X Man that they need not be a hindrance to your plans. Remember, the average Filipina is super jealous and even best friends can be competitive about landing guys. If the target sees sparks between the chaperone and you, she may be motivated to 'do things' to help her chances of keeping you. Just make sure that second and subsequent dates are one to one.

Maybe anyone here who is thinking of sending chatgirl money or thinks a chat girl may really love them can post the screenname here.

That way, if anybody else has the same "girl friend" they can PM the details to each other.

Spam Hog

11-02-06, 12:10

Blink, read your report. I'll spare you my opinion but......

Maybe anyone here who is thinking of sending chatgirl money or thinks a chat girl may really love them can post the screenname here.

That way, if anybody else has the same "girl friend" they can PM the details to each other.

Gentlemen prehaps there should be a thread devoted to PROVEN scammers etc. where they are outed, a thread to prevent both newbie and "old hands" alike. What is Admins position on such a thing and not just on the Phils board, I know Thailand is LOADED with 'em.

Spamhog

X Man

11-02-06, 13:14

Spamhog, your suggestion was one of the things I had in mind when I asked for this thread. I can't see any reason why anyone would object, although guys should have ample proof before posting a name or handle.

I'd like to see blink give us a name because the girl in the pics looks familiar...black hair, brown eyes...

Also, I have a suggestion on how you might respond to scammers. Don't let them know that YOU know. If you acuse them of scamming then they are getting feedback and they will likely change (improve) their tactics. I've had some pretty lame attempts...and I can only suspect there is someone in the background saying, "well, you should tell him....". I just had a really hot one today tell me about her family losing her house in last month's typhoon. I simply said, "I'm so sorry to hear that."...and then a few lines later, "Oh, I have to go now....".

And, on the plus side, a scammer tends to be on the weak side when it comes to morals and ethics. These might be EXACTLY the kind you might want to meet for a one night stand.

X

Gentlemen prehaps there should be a thread devoted to PROVEN scammers etc. where they are outed, a thread to prevent both newbie and "old hands" alike. What is Admins position on such a thing and not just on the Phils board, I know Thailand is LOADED with 'em.

Spamhog

Blink157

11-03-06, 09:39

Hi guys,
LOL Xmen ok. the name of the scam beauty is Karen Diaz , she is on acm online as sweetbaby and on streammate drewlover (but not active an more)

I saw her not online lately, perhaps she didnt pay the bill or get banned from acm cause I told them bout the scam or its just here pregnancy..who knows.

If you want to post a list of scammers you can post all the gurls name on chat site here cause they all lie....so we should concentrate on the real con artists.
A threat with scammers isnt a bad idea, like scammers and runners also in the p4p business. Some guys might be suprised how many true loves his "honeyko" has.

Happy hunting!!

B.

Cebu Local

11-03-06, 16:48

I was changing money buying Hong Kong Dollars and RMB for my coming China trip at the Money Changer.When a group of 88 Internet Cafe Girls arrived to change their Dollars into pesos.This was at the Money Changer infront of Matrix.I saw 3 of the girls changing between 100-200 Dollars ,Their earnings from last night when a Girl walked in Changing 480 Dollars.I asked her Many customers????Madami Ka bang Guest??She Answered Sa Tapatan 3 tanga na Boyfriend sa Internet na Nagpapadala ng pera or Honestly 3 Stupid Internet Boyfriends Who sent her Money for Web Cam Shows etc.Yes Folks beware of these Scammers.She proceeded to tell me that she could out earn the other working girls by Conning suckers on the Internet.Cavaet Emptor

Cebu Local

11-03-06, 23:36

Later that day,I bumped into the Internet Scammer Girl at the Mini Stop and She greeted me as MR Real Name,I asked her How she knew and She told me that the Money Changer told her that I was one of her better customer and was a regular buyer of Chinese currency.I was intrigued by how She scammed people,So I bought her Dinner at Shinjuku Ramen House and asked her how she worked her boyfriends,Turned out she worked in a Burgos Bar and did the Internet thing to boost her income.So She had 2 real boyfriends,A Filipino and an Aussie as well as 15 Internet friends who sent her money regularly.She sometimes chats with 3 guys at the same time.We had a laugh on how gullible some people are,She has a Fake Death Certificate Which she has used to make her Aunt "die" over 40 times,500 pesos in Recto for the Fake Certificate and over 3,000 dollars in Victims money.I shall be in touch with her to continue my research.Looks 7-8 Conning skills 9+

Asian Explorer

11-05-06, 23:26

Guys,

Just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated Filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). I travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. I know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. I'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.

I know this is a little of the purpose of ISG, but thought someone might have some ideas.

J Boy

11-06-06, 03:27

Guys,

Just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated Filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). I travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. I know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. I'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.

I know this is a little of the purpose of ISG, but thought someone might have some ideas.

You won't meet those girls through mongers - or not very often anyway. Get to know some married expats in the town where you want to look. Once they accept you as a good guy and serious they will introduce you to more woman than you can keep up with. You will meet more well educated pinays in Makati and Ortegas than in other parts of the city.

Spam Hog

11-06-06, 06:08

guys,

just curious if any of you have found a good way to meet well educated filipina professional (doctors and lawyers, not the other kind of pro!). i travel there about once a month, but am not able to form a social network that would allow me to meet these kind of "regular" girls. i know some girls of this type would be looking for a foreigner. i'd honestly be interested in a serious relationship.

i know this is a little of the purpose of isg, but thought someone might have some ideas.

most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status. there are exceptions however.

i know of several instances where "widowed" or "marriage annulled" (divorced)
ladies of stature have turned to foreigners. it seems that many filipina actresses also seek foreigner "boyfriends" from what the tabloids say.

the previous advice you received concerning getting to know professionals through association with other professionals, likely other expats is probably your best course. yes manila with its "old money" families probably has a plethora of professional ladies, but don't forget the "queen of the south" cebu, lots of "old money" here and spanish mestiza's are some of the best looking women in the world.

it helps to be catholic, professional and well to do yourself.

spamhog

Asian Explorer

11-07-06, 06:50

Spam Hog, J Boy,

Good points. I'm not an expert on Filipino culture, but have been hanging around it for a while. I know you're right about monied/upper class girls. Seems like, from what I've seen though, that there are a fair number of Filipina doctors who come from middle class backgrounds. Doctors in the Philippines don't make a lot, so it would seem there'd be some girls of this sort out there looking for options.

Spam Hog

11-07-06, 11:55

Spam Hog, J Boy,

Good points. I'm not an expert on Filipino culture, but have been hanging around it for a while. I know you're right about monied/upper class girls. Seems like, from what I've seen though, that there are a fair number of Filipina doctors who come from middle class backgrounds. Doctors in the Philippines don't make a lot, so it would seem there'd be some girls of this sort out there looking for options.

understand that the PI has NO shortage on decent upstanding and educated women, they dont have to be from the "upper class" or doctors, lawyers or consumate professional business women to be what I think you are looking for. Most doctors in the Pi dont make that much, there are an overwhelming number of lady dentists in the PI also, they can be considered upper strata financially.

I believe your chances which such ladies to be better, however, accept the fact that most will be older, perhaps forties or so, perhaps widowed and with children.

good luck

Spamhog

Harvey WB

11-07-06, 14:58

I've met many and believe that I married the best one for me. She is a farm girl from Ilocos, good family, was an OFW in Sing. and HK. There were others, former mayor's daughter on Negros, one from Romblon, a few in Davao and a couple from Cebu, all who were "ladies" and had an abundance of "class", despite some humble backgrounds.

I met a few from "money" also, but I think their expectations were different than mine.

Side Issue: Cebu Marriott had a beautiful 5'6" or so, early thirties MD on call, saw her on each trip for allergies. She used to work out in the gym, I was overinvolved at the time so didn't avail of a friend's offer for a "social introduction". She did have that "distant attitude" though, LOL. (Maybe word of my G/F (beautiful 22 YO, looked 16 though) and "Thursday Night Takeout" had gotten around, LOL.)

Surfer

11-07-06, 19:40

sh wrote:

most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status.

maybe i have been lucky because i am a lawyer (although i hate being called "attorney" by most everybody so i do not volunteer that information except where advantageous to do so), but i have found upper class women in manila very receptive to having a foreigner as a bf. actually, quite often upper class folks want to introduce me to unmarried female friends, relatives etc.

sh lives in cebu, and thus likely knows better than me, but in my experience many upper class filipinas prefer foreign bfs to pinoys as it has more cachet (quite unlike in thailand-if sh's post was about upper class thais i would wholeheartedly agree, but imho filipinas and indonesians do not seem to suffer from that stigma.

Asian Explorer

11-08-06, 08:21

Guys,

Thanks for the replies. Appreciate the discussion.

X Man

11-21-06, 15:57

This is what she wrote:

hi im looking of a loving caring responsible man and he willing to except me and my family.im a loving person and caing girl i love to read novel like reader digest.

???what strikes me as strange is this woman is 36 and (reportedly) has no children.

What does she mean "accept me and my family"?

Me thinks she is being way too honest.....

so, check her out at CB C00633523

X Man

11-21-06, 16:05

The second hottest woman I found at CB was apparently a businesswoman out of Digos, but working all over Mindanao. She's very sweet, very patient, but she's likely a scammer.

I never gave here a cent, but I would have loved to meet her.

Love ya Charry.

Mahku

11-24-06, 15:05

Would that be ID number 088002 X Man? I´ve chatted with her some also. I never got the vibe that she was doing any kind of scamming, but I never had the chance to meet in person. Digos is just far enough from Davao to be a pain. When I was around in July and August she seemed to be hooked up with a guy. And when there´s already enough in Davao to keep a guy busy why bother shipping them in from elsewhere? Anyway, if she is a scammer than her act is very, very good. She doesn´t make any neophyte mistakes.

I haven´t seen the other one. But I would be very suspicious about her photo being recent or even of the same girl.

DavidR123

11-26-06, 11:37

well, i agree with the, " it helps to be catholic, professional and well-to-do yourself" part, but in my experience, even upper-class, educated filipinas are very interested in foreigner bfs. every time i go to the doctor, bank, attorney, other offices, meet rich filipinos at nice restos, parties, etc, i am always asked are you married, would you like to meet so-and-so in the office or a relative, etc. there is a well-to-do widow who lives in my condo building who always invites me to visit her rest house, go shopping in singapore with her, etc. (her treat!) and she is easily old enough to be my mother! so, there may be a class system, but i don't think it descriminates against foreigners as a rule.

most women of that status are not interested in foreigners, remember there is a class system in this country and most "professional" filipinas, who are from the well to do class will not stoop to association with a foreigner. such a woman, educated, successful, from a good family and most of all "monied" will have her choice of pinoy swains of a peer status. there are exceptions however.

i know of several instances where "widowed" or "marriage annulled" (divorced)
ladies of stature have turned to foreigners. it seems that many filipina actresses also seek foreigner "boyfriends" from what the tabloids say.

the previous advice you received concerning getting to know professionals through association with other professionals, likely other expats is probably your best course. yes manila with its "old money" families probably has a plethora of professional ladies, but don't forget the "queen of the south" cebu, lots of "old money" here and spanish mestiza's are some of the best looking women in the world.

it helps to be catholic, professional and well to do yourself.

spamhog

X Man

11-27-06, 09:45

Yes, she's either very good or she was taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of me. As far as I know she got hurt by some guy and she's been a little jaded since then. Told me she wanted a vibrator for Christmas. That really surpised me.

charry.: so seriously, are u gonna let me borrow something from u?
charry.: u can collect it back when u visit?
X: Up to you.
charry.: i really need it
X: OK
charry.: but i understand if u cant
X: What is your problem and what makes you think I can "collect it back"?
charry.: because i have my word... it will be a big help to me if u can
charry.: and i should keep the people who helped me... thats why i will do what i promise just to prove i am real
charry.: and maybe i can borrow again if i can get your trust and if i can already prove
X: What do you want to borrow?
charry.: cash
X: Well, getting late for me. Thanks for the chat. Good night.
charry.: ok
charry.: have a nice evening

Would that be ID number X Man? I´ve chatted with her some also. I never got the vibe that she was doing any kind of scamming, but I never had the chance to meet in person. Digos is just far enough from Davao to be a pain. When I was around in July and August she seemed to be hooked up with a guy. And when there´s already enough in Davao to keep a guy busy why bother shipping them in from elsewhere? Anyway, if she is a scammer than her act is very, very good. She doesn´t make any neophyte mistakes.

I haven´t seen the other one. But I would be very suspicious about her photo being recent or even of the same girl.

DavidR123

11-28-06, 10:59

It AMAZES me that guys send money to a girl they've never met. I know girls, ones that I would even call "good" girls who see no moral problem with lying to guys over the internet for money. Girls who would NEVER try that bola bola with me, or any guy they met in person, yet, over the internet, it's ok somehow. It's Philippine morality. That and ANYthing can be justified in the name of survival.

Just don't send money to internet chicks. Even if they are good girls, they won't respect you if you do it and will always see you as a Moneyko. Generousity has serious diminishing returns here. If you give too freely it will cause you problems. They will respect you declining (in a face-saving way) and have more respect for you if you aren't a doormat!

Yes, she's either very good or she was taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of me. As far as I know she got hurt by some guy and she's been a little jaded since then. Told me she wanted a vibrator for Christmas. That really surpised me.

charry.: so seriously, are u gonna let me borrow something from u?
charry.: u can collect it back when u visit?
X: Up to you.
charry.: i really need it
X: OK
charry.: but i understand if u cant
X: What is your problem and what makes you think I can "collect it back"?
charry.: because i have my word... it will be a big help to me if u can
charry.: and i should keep the people who helped me... thats why i will do what i promise just to prove i am real
charry.: and maybe i can borrow again if i can get your trust and if i can already prove
X: What do you want to borrow?
charry.: cash
X: Well, getting late for me. Thanks for the chat. Good night.
charry.: ok
charry.: have a nice evening

X Man

12-01-06, 16:09

Well, thanks for the sermon. Now, could you please post something more useful than common sense?

Or, maybe tell us about these "good girls" who scam people on the Internet. What's good about them?

X

It AMAZES me that guys send money to a girl they've never met. !

DavidR123

12-03-06, 13:30

X Man,

Unfortunately, this is not common sense to everyone or they wouldn't be sending money to girls from the net all the time. I think it's a good idea to pass along the knowledge I have gained from living here and learning the culture...that sending money doesn't earn respect, it only makes you a target. I really don't think that is common knowledge at least, if not common sense.

Well, thanks for the sermon. Now, could you please post something more useful than common sense?

Or, maybe tell us about these "good girls" who scam people on the Internet. What's good about them?

X

Aventino68

12-05-06, 03:02

I have been a lurker here for a while so I'll throw in my penny's worth about them. I joined CB and looked at about 600 women, narrowed it down to about 40 and am chatting with one who I met who I hook up with when in Manila. Casual GF type for now. This is from what most of the girls have told me and I have learned:

1) you have to be able to get them on cam, about 30% of the photo's are fake so I don't care how good she looks, you have to get her on cam. If you're weeding through the photo's and she doesn't have any that aren't casual/spontaneous (her with her friends or her out for dinner) then chances are the photo's are fake since they've come from a magazine and magazines don't print casual photo's of whoever she is pretending to be.

2) they need to be able to get to wherever you fly to i.e. they need to be within a 5 hour bus ride of your hotel ( on average 5 hrs in a bus is about 300 pesos each way/ 6 USD)

3) yep there are some lovely girls in some parts of the Philippines but have a look at where you can safely visit. I don't live there but I go to Manila often, cities like Gen Santos, Zamboanga and plenty of places on Mindanao are a little risky for gwapos from abroad. There are a heap of nice girls from there but even your embassy will tell you it can be risky. Obviously if you have lived in the Philippines for years it is a different story.

4) She needs to be doing something or have some financial assistance from home so you can have normal conversation with her that doesn't end up in "when will you send money"?

5) she needs to be happy to pick and choose, a few of the hotties weren't interested or were too busy weeding through their replies. If you don't get a response keep looking. Remember that some girls get 80 to 100 replies in a day so even though you might be what she is after she may have to search through 2 or 300 replies to find you if she hasn't checked her emails daily so finding the right guy doesn't always happen.

6) they are usually pretty shy to start with, that's just their culture, so put up with the one word replies in conversation. it should get better the next time you chat and if it doesn't then move on.

Just my opinion though.

X Man

12-12-06, 13:40

You're right, and I'm sorry for being so harsh.

These guys who get scammed probably need more than your message to mend their ways...make a brick upside the head??? Love is blind I suppose.

But, if you got even one guy to think twice, then your post was worthwile.

X

X Man,

Unfortunately, this is not common sense to everyone or they wouldn't be sending money to girls from the net all the time. I think it's a good idea to pass along the knowledge I have gained from living here and learning the culture...that sending money doesn't earn respect, it only makes you a target. I really don't think that is common knowledge at least, if not common sense.

Firedawg

12-21-06, 20:28

OK I have got to chime in here. I meet a lot of people from the PI in Yahoo, My space, and hot or not. I mostly just bull shit with them but I have defiantly found a few that are way out there and just looking for a quick buck. For senior members I will send pictures of the worst of them. She tried real hard to play me like a fiddle but thank god I saw through her. Beware of Shelly she is a snake in the grass for sure. Like I said Senior members I’ll be more than happy to forward pictures to.

DavidR123

12-26-06, 13:41

Why not just post her photo on the board? Seems like a good public service to me!

OK I have got to chime in here. I meet a lot of people from the PI in Yahoo, My space, and hot or not. I mostly just bull shit with them but I have defiantly found a few that are way out there and just looking for a quick buck. For senior members I will send pictures of the worst of them. She tried real hard to play me like a fiddle but thank god I saw through her. Beware of Shelly she is a snake in the grass for sure. Like I said Senior members I’ll be more than happy to forward pictures to.

Billy Ibrox

12-27-06, 14:17

Ah love yahoo chat. It is great free entertainment. Some of my favourites have included:

• no money for food, only fae Internet.
• Friends in background.
• Pick me up in a car at rural airport. And award me an OBE (one behind the ear)
• Live in Pampanga or Angeles
• Live in Muslim area
• Offer sex almost immediately
• Previous foreign bf/husband. Where did ye meet him lassie?
• Pauses in replying/sending me someone else’s reply.
• Lived outside of Philippines (= hooker)
• Web cam/scam shows: $40 an hour quotes. Needed to feed family. This adds up to a lot of money if done once a day. This is a sure high priced scam.
• Permanent web or sms cell phone connection to yahoo
• Ripped photos with the logo still on them
• Tell tale tatts on good girls
• Asking me to forward money on any pretext. The weakest have included a deposit for rent for our love pad.
• Stock answers
• No surprise when lift mah kilt (joke)
• Use of bar girl slang.
• Used to walking on cam, like a performing monkey. Other monkeys doing the walk in the background.
• Give out a +63 # without thinking, so they’ve done it countless times before.
• Hookers who go to church

Firedawg

12-27-06, 18:00

Why not just post her photo on the board? Seems like a good public service to me!OK here she is, she is trouble.

Billy Ibrox

12-27-06, 18:40

I'm watching a cam **** give a performance right now to some other **** who's paying for it. If these tarts had brains they's be fucking dangeorus. She likes Pink and Greenday, two punk bands so I spun some shit on that. She fed me a lot of bull and here she is doing al kinds of shit for some other wanker. She's a nice kid but admits she has to cater to "weirdos" (her word) to pay the bills. She gets fuck all but kind words out of ae this Jock.

She doesnae know ah'm watching. There's no bulge in ma hkilt. I just find the whole fucking thing hilarious.

Ye spend 2 hours on yahoo and ye get 10 dates and a life full of bs. If we take any of it serious, yer mental.

Another intersting one is to ask them to go skin to skin. They all agree on no condoms. Go figure.

DavidR123

12-30-06, 19:49

I have a friend who seems to be getting taken to the cleaners by this one. I'm wondering if anyone else has any experience with her.

HenryV

12-31-06, 00:23

Was corresponding last year with this one until she asked for money. I got a little snippy and so did s/he. Eventually it reached the point where s/he called me - out of the clear blue sky - "redneck trash."

Anyone guy who sends money to these bandits deserves all he gets.

OK here she is, she is trouble.

Buko Max

12-31-06, 02:15

I have a friend who seems to be getting taken to the cleaners by this one.
Hey David,

Which website or chat room did your friend meet the scammer in question?

FireWalker

01-14-07, 11:28

OK here she is, she is trouble.

I think I know that girl, but her name isn't Shelly. Has a child by a friend of mine. I'd have to see more pics to be sure. I've got some if you want to see them, but I'd have to go private, in case it is not her.

X Man

02-04-07, 07:58

this dialog originated on the davao thread and i moved it here: h = henderson and m = mahku

henderson asks some great questions. i hope some of you others can also give us your modus operandi.

h***i used those places nearly every day, but all i ever saw were kids (mostly boys playing games on the net). was it because i went during the day when the regular girls were working or were they the wrong internet places as they were all geared towards game playing?

yes, some internet cafes cater to different crowds. i was in one place in manila and the girl next to me was flashing her tits. i got her contact info as soon as she finished. unfortunately, she used such foul language in our conversation that i was immediately turned off. personally, i haven't picked up any girls in net cafes. when you guys post, please recommend a good net cafe. hmmm, not that i said that i have to dig through my notes and find the name of the place i was using in manila.

h***like you both say, there’s a very high percentage of girls from mindanao on websites like asianeuro and filipinaheart and they do look very gfe.

there also seem to be a lot at cherry blossom.

h***but how do you line up several girls from the same city and see them all? if you don’t like one after the first day isn’t it hard to get rid of her? remember you’ve already built up a relationship with her on the net so she now feels she’s your gf. and if she meets you at the airport then even more so. she will also know your hotel etc. and in a small place (like cdo) she or her friends are going to see you when you go the discos/clubs at night hunting after you've dumped her.

i don't know how mahku does it, but i would not let a girl pick me up at the airport. you are creating too much expectation. i tend to keep it friendly online and stay a bit vague about my arrival. sometimes this backfires as they might have made other plans, or they don't remember me. you should try to have several contact numbers for each city. anyway, i set up a meeting, often at the mall. i often go to the food court because it's relaxed and inexpensive. she may have brought along a chaperone or two, so i don't plan on an expensive restaurant for the first date. we eat and chat. do some light touch testing. if she's hot, but quiet, go see a movie. if you want to bail out, say you have other plans. tell her you're going to meet a friend. as long as you haven't created too much expectation, this shouldn't create any drama.

i chatted with one lady who got serious online with a guy. she traveled from tagum to davao to meet him at the airport. she had told her family and friends about this. as she's waiting at the airport, the guy calls and says he met a nice woman in manila, so cancelled the davao trip. wow, what a jerk.

oh, one more thing about the mall is they might start hinting about you buying something. that's probably a bad sign, but i keep thinking of it as an investment. so far been low returns for me. last time, the lady and her friend were looking at some underwear. i told her i'd buy them for her as long as she modelled them for me later. she didn't agree, nor disagree, so i shelled out about 300 pesos. she insisted on bringing the friend to the next meeting so i gave up...had other women to keep me busy.

anyway, creating expectation may speed things up for you, but can also create some unwanted drama if you decide you'd prefer to call the next number on your list. my modus operandi has resulted in about 40% success rate - often in the first 24 hours.

m***also, i don't know how assertive you were when you were out hunting but you really do have to make your move. the girls are shy (meaning regular girls, not bargirls). they may make eye contact but the rest is up to you. if you see a chance don't let the moment pass.

yes, mahku -- the jedi master of picking up ladies! i print my own business cards with my phone number. once i had a quick chat with a girl who worked at a jewelry counter in the mall. i gave her my card and left when a customer came up. she texted me about ten minutes later and we had dinner together that night. she still sends me email sometimes.

also, think up some lines and be ready to use them. they don't have to be super clever, just something to get a conversation started. then off to a coffee shop or something.

h***you know, i was never sure of how forward i could be without running the risk of causing offence in a strict catholic country. and the trouble is that they are all smiley and friendly all the time so i didn’t know whether that was a come on or them just being polite. after all. the guys are also very friendly and smiley and i’m sure that wasn’t come ons.

well, once you meet her, do the touch test! start with a handshake, later a light touch on the shoulder. if there aren't too many other people around, hold her hand. when you tease her does she hit you? good sign. when you get in a taxi, does she scoot all the way over to the other side? bad sign. of course if there is any resistance, scale back or give up.

h***you’re right there, mahku, the beginning of the week was completely dead in davao.

holidays can be bad too. the first time i went to davao was on mayday.

x

Mahku

02-04-07, 10:43

The business card thing is a good idea. It's especially useful for the girls working in shops. I've heard of guys being kicked out of SM by security because they were hitting on the girls. To avoid this just say a quick hello, chat a couple of minutes and then hand over the card. More often than not you'll get a reply within hours. Be careful about handing out too many if you're not prepared to be talking and texting on the phone all the time.

Member #2001

02-08-07, 02:22

i met this girl on one of those dating websites. as most of you know the scam that goes like this. i am so and so and i live in so and so. my mother use to beat me, and my step father use to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me, so i ran away from the local village and walked to a bigger city where i live now. well i am not really living because i am homeless and live in the park near the sea. she also says that she gets up early to go door to door and tries to get people to give her clothes to wash. funny thing is i always see her online at all hours of the day and night. also she says she washes in the local river. she has even threatened suicide. anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. yea right! she says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. i hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.

anyway she sent me these pictures and so now i am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.

so if she is so broke why is she always online? does she look homeless and starving in these pictures? lol! she also bugs me for money and says things like; i am getting kicked out of where i live, and can you help me please i am starving. it’s always the same story. oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. it looks like they did a good job too. guess she is not as broke as she claims.

she really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. what do you think? maybe she should be gangbanged?

X Man

02-08-07, 07:34

Just want to confirm - are you sure those are her pictures? I mean, have you chatted with her on cam?

X

Yella Man

02-08-07, 09:45

X,

I like the brick upside the head thingy! Some guys will still wake afterwards, wipe the blood off, bandage their heads and contact their Honeyko's online to send more money. I just don't understand guys like that. I stay completely away from the chat scene unless it's a girl I have met previously, and even then I'm weary of chatting them up because the chat will eventually lead to money (most, but not all girls). It's just a big waste of time if you ask me. Why guys try to set themselves up in advance beats the hell outta me. Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter. IT'S JUST TOO DAMN EASY!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

You're right, and I'm sorry for being so harsh.

These guys who get scammed probably need more than your message to mend their ways...make a brick upside the head??? Love is blind I suppose.

But, if you got even one guy to think twice, then your post was worthwile.

X

X Man

02-08-07, 09:51

But I'm shy.

Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter.

X Man

02-08-07, 10:01

Yella man says online chat is a waste of time. I disagree. See pic.

X

Pete The Beat

02-08-07, 12:21

So she's trying to hit on you for money! Big deal. She's desperate and the foreign guys have the money - thats the name of the game - if you don't ask, you don't receive! Up to you - if you don't like it just say NO! Call her bluff and tell her you don't believe her and if she asks you for money again you'll find another honey ko!

But suggesting she should be gangbanged? No woman deserves that no matter what she has done!

Come off it - just move on to the next one!!

Cheers,

Pete

Bob Aero

02-08-07, 13:22

These pictures of this girl have been floating around the internet for a while. I first saw them at least 2 years ago. So anybody could have sent them. Keep ignoring.

I. Anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. Yea right! She says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. I hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.

Anyway she sent me these pictures and so now I am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.

Oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. It looks like they did a good job too. Guess she is not as broke as she claims.

She really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. What do you think? Maybe she should be gangbanged?

FreebieFan

02-08-07, 19:29

Don't be fooled by this chick. Shes on face party. Myspace and tag world with same pics. No idea who she is but she states she from Phils, or Malaysia or Indo. Depending on space and time. Definately not someone whos poor. Keep looking. If it looks like a scam and smells like a scam. Well you know the rest.

Member #2001

02-08-07, 20:55

Just want to confirm - are you sure those are her pictures? I mean, have you chatted with her on cam?

XIU am not exactly sure. These are the pictures that she sent me and one of them was on the dating site, so you maybe right about the pictures not being her own. To me they look authentic though. Guess it really does not matter though

Yella Man

02-08-07, 23:57

You can be shy, deaf, mute, and in a wheel chair and still stumble into pussy in the Philippines! :-)

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

But I'm shy.

Member #2001

02-09-07, 02:46

I know this girl is out for the money. The only question I have is how and when I will screw her over and believe me it can be done. Maybe she will even go to jail. Its all up to me. I am not a vindictave person, however there are others that are and it might save them some greif if I do this.

Ok I got suckered in to 50 dollars but it might be 50 dollars well spend if I can stop others from giving her money. It was the last time BTW.

Here is a link to screw others that make this type of behaivior like a bussiness.

http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm

You have to scroll done maybe a bit but the information is all there

X Man

02-09-07, 04:01

Give us the email and someone can try to get her on webcam.

X

Member #2001

02-09-07, 04:12

I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.

I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.

I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?

You can use webcam recorder program. Just google for it and it works ok.

I'm heading to Dubai next week and plan on having serious fun;) called my last girl there a real A lister from Ukrain, met her in premier and we plan on meeting. Last time she reluctantly agreed on 700 but it was really great. We made it like 5 times in that night. Will try same price again:p.

Now really concerned about afternoon fun reading the reports about jocky's and TGIT. But I remember an old post about a place where u can find iranians or women in abaya as they say but don't recall the name.

Anyway any update on LE activity. Is it still ok to walk with the girl or go to her home?

Also what is the hottest place to go as a nightspot? Is Zince still ok?

I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.

I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.

I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?

Thanks

Amadeuss

02-09-07, 06:59

..to really get the whole story out from girls -- be it on cherryblossoms or from any other chat site.

i was working 2 months and many many hours now on girls from cagayan de oro and towns in the vicinity as iligan and gingoog. at high times i had more then 10 on my chat and perhaps 100 in the contact list.

more then 80% of the girls are useless for a monger like me:

- either they are the few real well-protected girls and only allowed to jump in the hay after you marry them (although i popped one last time at daytime..because daytime it is ok to be in the hotel, but not at night -- figure..)
- or..and thats the majority, they are only in westernunion remittances. they tell you heaps of stories. just cut them short and say: "look hon, if you wanna meet the man of your life then borrow whatever you need and come to xxx-place at that time. if you there, i'll pay back."

once that gal will tell you, that you don't understand their problem, just get them off your list. only a waste of time.

the orgasnisational problem now is to make them feel that they are the only one. all of them would like to pick me up at the airport. i told 3 of them a much later arrival time, but got all their cell numbers. only one got the right time. will see if she's there. then will text the others..

also told the others that i don't know which hotel i go to stay. only once no 1 is setteld, then i will "invite" no 2 and so on. we'll see how it will work out.

keep you posted, mates....

ohh..the screen shots are from gals offering a free peep but the asking for 50$-- lol...

Too Jaded

02-16-07, 10:33

I have had nothing but success with FH. As some of you may have seen, I have a non-pro that tolerates my mongering, and a semi-pro bisexual that is just sooo fun. I met both on FH. I have many back-burnered I know I can count on.

So some have asked me how to 'play the game'. I am not an expert, but this is what I have learned, much of which has been confirmed by my resident female bisexual wingman.

In the beginning I was lost and confused. I figured all chicks were cruising for hubbies or boyfriends. It was actually my 'wingman' that explained it to me, and she was right.

There are four types of girls on FH:

1. Prostititutes
2. Scammers
3. Girls looking for a guy that be their bf or husband to take care of their families
4. Girls looking for short time boyfriends and give them support money (they do not see this as prostitution, although for you and me it is the same)

Numbers three and four are typically interchangeable though, so a girl looking for a husband will settle for a short time boyfriend with an ATM card depending on the situation, and of course #4 would jump on any foreigner who offered her marriage.

Once you have some practice, figuring these things out will be easy. #1 is easy to spot, and I find that #2 is as well. When it doubt, throw it out, there are PLENTY of chicks on FH.

Number 4 hopes that she can seduce you into #3, but if not she has a foreigner take her places and give her money, and also we do things in bed no Pinoy ever would. Both can be identified by the phrase "GOD FEARING". This does not mean she is celibate, trust me.

Number 1 can easily be found by searching for religion "None" or "Other".

Number 2 will act enamored immediately, and then lay a lot of sadness on you, or send you a link to a webcam, yada yada. Only use Yahoo webcam, and make them wave hello.

Be honest. In my profile I explicitly state that I travel to Phils on occassion and am looking for 'casual romance', or 'someone to go out to dinner and have fun'. When they ask me what I am looking for I tell them, politely, the absolute truth. Some bail, but all the better for me, I do not want to put a lot of time or effort getting the pants off, and I can move on the next. But almost every time they still IMd me, acting mahia'en but wanting me to visit. As long as your are polite and not too dirty, they will dig your honesty.

You can have sex with virtually any of the above, even the scammers if you play your cards right. Just play the game, meet them, take them shopping, and give them some cash for their college fund. My non-pro even says 'Thank you Daddy' when I buy her shit. It is cool, I am a 30-something sugar daddy, and she actually shows me respect by being frugal with my money, she is a great bargain hunter... I sent her out to Glorietta to buy clothes before our Palawan trip with 5000P, and she came back with new shoes, a jacket, a swimsuit, pants, a suitcase, and other stuff, along with 3500P in change. She brought me back my change!!!!

YMMV, as I am in my 30s, and these girls find my light skin and hair attractive. But if you be polite, be masculine, and be honest, you will find at least ONE gem with a little time and effort.

Good luck,

2J

Silly Fool

02-16-07, 12:13

X,

I like the brick upside the head thingy! Some guys will still wake afterwards, wipe the blood off, bandage their heads and contact their Honeyko's online to send more money. I just don't understand guys like that. I stay completely away from the chat scene unless it's a girl I have met previously, and even then I'm weary of chatting them up because the chat will eventually lead to money (most, but not all girls). It's just a big waste of time if you ask me. Why guys try to set themselves up in advance beats the hell outta me. Hell, you can be into pussy as soon as you deplane if you make eye contact and chat the girls up at the airport, convenience store, mall, coffee shop, or anyplace else for that matter. It's just too damn easy!

Always on the Quest

Yella ManYour damn right , Yella . Fuck chat rooms, fuck Cherry blossoms-get out there and dance with them. If youve got two left feet, then makem smile with your sense of humour. Get amongst it. You wont regret a thing.

Silly Fool

02-16-07, 12:28

Too Jaded,

Whats FH stand for and more importantly whats it cost?

X Man

02-16-07, 13:52

This is an excellent post. Lots of good info here. I especially liked that he provided his age/physical details to give ISG'ers some kind comparative guage.

I think I'd add a fifth category. I've met some middle class ladies who were mostly curious or simply attracted to the exotic foreign man. You get this in Japan as well -- although not nearly as much as you did ten years ago. (hmmm, maybe it's cause I'm ten years older, balder, chubbier......).

Back to the Phil., certain women are online ALL the time. Well, they may have some sugar daddy funding them and they stay online thinking they'll find another gold mine. On the other hand, she may work in an office where she has online access. I've met a few who had their own businesses. One in Mindanao, had her own Net cafe and she was absolutely maniac as soon as I touched her tit.

I have had nothing but success with FH. As some of you may have seen, I have a non-pro that tolerates my mongering, and a semi-pro bisexual that is just sooo fun. I met both on FH. I have many back-burnered I know I can count on.

So some have asked me how to 'play the game'. I am not an expert, but this is what I have learned, much of which has been confirmed by my resident female bisexual wingman.

In the beginning I was lost and confused. I figured all chicks were cruising for hubbies or boyfriends. It was actually my 'wingman' that explained it to me, and she was right.

There are four types of girls on FH:

1. Prostititutes
2. Scammers
3. Girls looking for a guy that be their bf or husband to take care of their families
4. Girls looking for short time boyfriends and give them support money (they do not see this as prostitution, although for you and me it is the same)

Numbers three and four are typically interchangeable though, so a girl looking for a husband will settle for a short time boyfriend with an ATM card depending on the situation, and of course #4 would jump on any foreigner who offered her marriage.

Once you have some practice, figuring these things out will be easy. #1 is easy to spot, and I find that #2 is as well. When it doubt, throw it out, there are PLENTY of chicks on FH.

Number 4 hopes that she can seduce you into #3, but if not she has a foreigner take her places and give her money, and also we do things in bed no Pinoy ever would. Both can be identified by the phrase "GOD FEARING". This does not mean she is celibate, trust me.

Number 1 can easily be found by searching for religion "None" or "Other".

Number 2 will act enamored immediately, and then lay a lot of sadness on you, or send you a link to a webcam, yada yada. Only use Yahoo webcam, and make them wave hello.

Be honest. In my profile I explicitly state that I travel to Phils on occassion and am looking for 'casual romance', or 'someone to go out to dinner and have fun'. When they ask me what I am looking for I tell them, politely, the absolute truth. Some bail, but all the better for me, I do not want to put a lot of time or effort getting the pants off, and I can move on the next. But almost every time they still IMd me, acting mahia'en but wanting me to visit. As long as your are polite and not too dirty, they will dig your honesty.

You can have sex with virtually any of the above, even the scammers if you play your cards right. Just play the game, meet them, take them shopping, and give them some cash for their college fund. My non-pro even says 'Thank you Daddy' when I buy her shit. It is cool, I am a 30-something sugar daddy, and she actually shows me respect by being frugal with my money, she is a great bargain hunter... I sent her out to Glorietta to buy clothes before our Palawan trip with 5000P, and she came back with new shoes, a jacket, a swimsuit, pants, a suitcase, and other stuff, along with 3500P in change. She brought me back my change!!!!

YMMV, as I am in my 30s, and these girls find my light skin and hair attractive. But if you be polite, be masculine, and be honest, you will find at least ONE gem with a little time and effort.

Good luck,

2J

Too Jaded

02-16-07, 14:46

I think I'd add a fifth category. I've met some middle class ladies who were mostly curious or simply attracted to the exotic foreign man. You are absolutely right, brother. I had one of those on my 'back burner', a 40-something in great shape that likes Jazz and wanted to try some sort of tantric sex thing. She started to be a little bossy with me though, and I am not looking for the mother type, nor do I have the time or stamina for such an endeavor!

Thanks for calling that out, it is an important group!

2J

Finrod

02-16-07, 18:00

I did not break it down like Too Jaded. But I had similar success to him on FH. Of course it helped that I was staying several weeks in Manila at the time.

As I had very little time to travel outside of Manila, I restricted my chats and searches to those who were in Manila and immediate vicinity, and could pay their own way to see me. I know I left a lot of cute honeys elsewhere in the country on the table. Maybe next time I'll find those. If they were only looking for husbands or had the scammer sound about them, I screened that out quickly. So I met a fair number of girls for ST and spent a few pesos taking them out for coffee, lunch or dinner. For that "helping her family" thing in the morning, I rarely gave more than 1000p which was usually accepted with a smile and "when will I see you again?" To which you say, I'll think about it. With a smile.

Be clean, well groomed, polite and honest. Bring a gentle sense of humor. Have them teach you a few words of Tagalog. The girls you meet after all the screening will generally accept the honesty even if they don't quite like it because they are so used to deception and games being played on them.

FH is based in the UK so they charge in pounds. I think it was 15.95 gbp last year. A tad expensive at today's exchange rate, but look on the bright side: you only need to sign up for one, maybe two months at the most, prior to and during your visit.

Too Jaded

02-16-07, 18:19

Whats FH stand for and more importantly whats it cost?

No worries, brother. I was confused too when I first started seeing all these acronyms tossed about. FH=filipinaheart dot com

Have fun! The cost is minimal, I forget how much but it is on the site.

2J

Spam Hog

02-18-07, 08:42

first before adding my well known psuedo intellectual horses ass philisophy allow me to hail, as our new king of mongers, toojaded, his pix of bisexual gf is what it is all about. (pauses in typing and bows three times & continues).

catagorizing filipinas (or any other women for that matter) in four or fives types may cover it for some of you, but i would point out rather than conjecture that there are many sub catagories within those types as well as varying age ranges which sometimes changes things as well as geographic location (cultural background).

sometimes the distincting between catagories gets blurred, lotta grey area as to what a prostitute is & her true motivation are, yeah i know money, money. but some are scammers and will rip you off and some will give you a gfe, some are trying to meet the man of their dreams, poor gal is dillussional imho. same for the girlfriend catagory. as i used to tell 'em when i was single...define girlfreind...(or boyfriend).

a lot has been said about internet scammers, i preach and teach on that one quite a bit. once again, there are sub catagories, take the exptreme "pure" scammer such as the infamous judy altraca, who worked the cb website under various alais and bilked how many guys out of how many thousands of dollars. she and her (filipino) husband are very rich and own houses and businesses in davao, butuan and other places thanks to so many suckers so eager to part with their money over her bs. basically judy (and her ilk) are not interested in meeting "mr right" but in it soley for the money.

how do we truly classify the girl who gets on the net and offers to show her 32 b's and hairless slit or offers to "talk dirty" for money while some guy jerks off? i dont see her as a scammer, sorry, in many western countries such thing is a legitimate business, 1-900 etc. the big difference is with the phils version, you get to see the girl and you have the option to send her money for her services (thats exactly what she is providing) and if you are in the phils, very likely you can meet her and do all the nasty things you were chatting about. in the us you are likely talking to a fat, overweight mom with a sexy voice, whom you will never see, it's all a big unattainable fantasy. so again i ask you, which is the scammer?

somewhere in the middle is that little harlot who gets on yahoo and asks guy after guy for money coz mom is sick and the water buffalo is lame. they do this coz some idiot always falls for it and sends them money. whose fault is that? our's???? or hers??? you can be sure that this girl will meet you, probably rock your world and if things go right, she will likely become your gf (once again see above regarding gf) while you are here. yes she wants to marry you, why not? what is her alternative? marry a filipino jeepney driver and live in a tin roof shack the rest of her life? the books are full of guys who marry girls under the same circumstances. some of 'em work out beleive it or not.

the honest ones (much like the one that too jaded hooked into) will tell you up front what they are all about, and they will tell you that they are doing the same thing you are doing, checking things out, having fun until the right one comes along, and if he don't well...if she is your thing, bingo! if not, get another one.

now i been hearing fh bandied about alot. well since xmas, the spamhog and his mrs have been hard at work, assisting several female relatives, friends etc by puting their profiles on fh. now so far this is five ladies, all **** 24, all are either students or employed or "nice girls" (two are virgins) none of whom have ever been near the internet before and none have any expereince with foreigners. two more should be added in the near future, one is 27, a former mistress to rich chinese filipino, (but never a 'working girl) the other over 30 and a clerk in a store, a degree in marketing.

the point is there are varying degree's and cross sections of women here, many of them turn to the internet as a place to find man of their dreams, i think a lot of them are going to be disappointed, judging from what is on "our" end fellas.

case in point, my 23 yo neice, first time on web cam and yahoo chat over the weekend, trying to find a "nice guy" first asshole she gets is some clown from uk, asks her if he comes to phils will she sleep with him, later asks if she "sucks". class act.

I've read SH's post twice and he doesn't make any direct comments about CB.
From an earlier post, SF had some problem with a girl in Mindanao and wasn't happy with how CB handeled the problem. Unfortuanately, he hasn't given us any details.

Anyone who reads this board would know that you don't send money to these gals. There is a clear warning on the CB web site as well. And as for the problem, does SF expect someone from CB to go to Mindanao and slap the woman.

Several people, including me, have described success with online women right here on this thread. If anyone has a different opinion, at least explain why.

i met this girl on one of those dating websites. as most of you know the scam that goes like this. i am so and so and i live in so and so. my mother use to beat me, and my step father use to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me, so i ran away from the local village and walked to a bigger city where i live now. well i am not really living because i am homeless and live in the park near the sea. she also says that she gets up early to go door to door and tries to get people to give her clothes to wash. funny thing is i always see her online at all hours of the day and night. also she says she washes in the local river. she has even threatened suicide. anyway she is always asking me to give her money for all her problems. yea right! she says she has no phone number and no address and bla, bla, bla. i hit the ignore button and that is the end of that.

anyway she sent me these pictures and so now i am sharing them with you all for your viewing pleasure.

so if she is so broke why is she always online? does she look homeless and starving in these pictures? lol! she also bugs me for money and says things like; i am getting kicked out of where i live, and can you help me please i am starving. it’s always the same story. oh and yea, she said she had these professionaly done. it looks like they did a good job too. guess she is not as broke as she claims.

she really looks like she could be a good fuck, in the ass that is. what do you think? maybe she should be gangbanged?yeah. i had a run in with this person. said she lived in cagayan de oro. i had copies of all the photos that #2001 posted.

she's was and is yesterday's news.

dd

Spam Hog

02-19-07, 09:51

I've read SH's post twice and he doesn't make any direct comments about CB.
From an earlier post, SF had some problem with a girl in Mindanao and wasn't happy with how CB handeled the problem. Unfortuanately, he hasn't given us any details.

Anyone who reads this board would know that you don't send money to these gals. There is a clear warning on the CB web site as well. And as for the problem, does SF expect someone from CB to go to Mindanao and slap the woman.

Several people, including me, have described success with online women right here on this thread. If anyone has a different opinion, at least explain why.

X

Okay Xman I will repeat, I say repeat as if you go back and look through various threads I knock cherry blossoms quite a bit in various posts.

Xman you know my background and some of the things I have done in private consulting work, well one of them was background for various clients on prospective fiances, integrity checks etc when I was connected with a licensed PI agency in the phils, ( I NO LONGER DO THIS so fellas please dont ask.) If you look hard enough you will see one of my old ads on this website.

Anyhow, those investigative expereinces are what I draw on to some degree in citing many of the issues and facts that I do among these threads.
I would estimate that out of perhaps 120 cases, a great portion of them involved guys wanting to come to the Phils to meet some chickie they found on the internet. Hands down, FH and CB were the two most often cited sources for the budding romance.

I'm estimating here as I dont have immediate access to records (which the company doesn't keep for client anonimity) but lets say 40 cases were from CB. from the Davao, CDO and CEBU region and environs.

Of those 40 cases, I would say 90% turned sour, ie, the girl was an out and out scammer which I usually easily proved, married or with a live in partner or an undesirable who could not have qualified for a fiance/spousal visas (prostitute or criminal record) at least TEN cases it wasn't a female at all but a network of TV's who posted pictures of Filipina actresses or former beauty queens.

There are some real winners, I mention Judy Altraca in my post you quote, she has many alias and uses pictures of her friends etc, but every once in awhile she pops up on CB where she has been banned, outed and warned about. Judy and her husband still rake it in.

There is another girl in Butuan, can't remember her full name but the first is Carlotta something, REAL BIG TITS which she likes to show to sucker guys in, she is married and has bilked dozens of guys, her only source of income for her and her rugby sniffing boyfriend/pimp.

Then there was the poor sap who "barfined" some little tramp from Davao from Angeles city, paid the bar like five hundred US for her contract, bought her a $300 buck cell phone and a plane ticket to Davao to wait for a fiance visa. She came back to Davao, signed up on CB (Where she had been before under a different name) and went to work on the Inet scamming guys for money. She also went back to live with her P100 wage a day jeepney driver while sending former sap love notes on that phone he bought her.

FH fared better, but it has its share of scammers and 'ne'r do wells', CB has been around for awhile and I think better known, maybe this is why they get a greater portion of the "Penpals from hell".

Anyhow, I have wanted to start a thread on scams, schemes, naming names and all to act as a clearing house for some of this material, I can't as I'm such a cheap bastard not a paying memeber. So if someone else who IS would, please do

Bottom line I HATE SEEING GUYS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF!!!!!

Regards

Spamhog

X Man

02-19-07, 10:56

Thanks SH -- interesting stuff.

I'm not trying to dispute your findings, but it sounds as if your former clients were planning to marry someone. Had they met the ladies and had they been to the Philippines to meet their ladies? Is it possible they asked for the investigation because their suspicions had already been raised?

I ask because my experiences seem to be quite different. That may simply because my style and goals are different.

In the last two years I've met over 20 CB ladies and become intimate with about 40% -- usually in the first 48 hours. My goal isn't marriage, but I am unmarried and would consider it if the right lady came along. So, I'm happy with CB. Have some asked for money? Of course.... One of my successes, Ruby in Davao (on the Euro site last time I checked) was a wonderful lay. I met her in the afternoon and had her panties off that same afternoon. After I was back "home", she made up all kinds of ridiculous shit...including pregnancy. We still chat sometime and if I go to Davao I know a girl who knows how to get her knickers off real quick.

Another quick lay told me that she was a waitress when we met. I played it like a newbie. Umm, turns out she was a waitress on Burgos. Great tits. How much you guys pay for Burgos girls? I gave her 500 for taxi fare -- and later...I would have given her another 500 just to get her to stop texting me every 10 minutes. (are the newer phones able to hold more messages -- I max out at less than 50 messages)

So, this is a web site which is about having sex with women. I think the online sites are a great source, especially if you want something a little different than the usual bar scene.

If you want to marry some girl, I guess you should sit down and have a cup of coffee with SH. He's obviously a gold mine of information.

BTW, SH, when I asked Jackson for this thread "chat rooms and pen pals", my idea was to share notes on the "chat" ladies both good and bad -- specific notes. Obviously the regulars in the net cafes are sharing notes about us!

I hope the guy who goes by the handle "silly fool" will give us some detail about his experiences.

X

Spam Hog

02-21-07, 15:19

You are right X man, MOST of these guys were someone looking for A WIFE.
A majority of them had NEVER been to the Phils (or any other country) before or had experience with foreign women. You are DOUBLY correct when you say that these "girls" had done something or acted in a way to raise suspicion. HOWEVER, in almost every case, there was a sustaining relationship, one that had been ongoing for sometime be it online or whatever. Also, I can tell you that a number of cases involved guys who HAD been to the Phils and were not dummies, a few were expereinced mongers. They wanted to make sure that their wife, GF or fiance was being a good girl COZ THEY KNEW THE DEAL. However, in these situations the RESULTS MIGHT SUPRISE YOU.

A lot of the ladies WERE being good little girls, there is a strong tendancy for filipina's when they find "Mr Right" to be the loyal faithful Filipina of legend.
BUT, IF THEY WERE SCAMMERS or came from a fishy background (read bar girls) that is usually the ones that screwed a filipino BF or worked the internet putting on boob shows for money etc. As I have said before and say again, you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl.

Also, it may interest you to know that NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMERS ask guys for money, the worst ones get you emotionally involved, you come to the PI and they get you FOR THE BIG ONE. You bring a $1500 diamond and give it to her, presents, treat her like a queen, give her $500 for passport fees etc all that crap, next thing you know shes gone out the door back to her husband/BF who have a good time with your money and already setting up the next sucker, you're out three grand plus plane fare or whatever.

ALWAYS remember that the ultimate goal of a majority of the Ladies on those websites IS GETTING MARRIED OR GETTING IN A SUSTAINED RELATIONSHIP, EVEN THE SCAMMERS Of course the ladies you met on CB or whatever dropped their panties. These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).

At some point in your relationship with a filipina, she is gonna ask for money, gifts if not directly to drop hints. The scammers of course just ask anyone, but the "good" ones, the ones you meet in person etc they are testing you, seeing how generous you are and in some cases how sincere you are about them. Understand that they equate feeling to some degree with taking care of them. Remember this is a Catholic society WHERE THE MAN IS THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD, YOU are expected to demonstrate your love by making sure your loved ones are taken care of, provided for. Me Tarzan, you Jane, I catch fish, you cook and clean 'em.

Anyhow, if your goal is to meet women online, set things up for your visit and sample flower after flower of course CB and FH and others are an excellent sources, just beware of which ones to avoid and what games they play.

regards

Spamhog

Too Jaded

02-21-07, 15:56

ALWAYS remember that the ultimate goal of a majority of the Ladies on those websites IS GETTING MARRIED OR GETTING IN A SUSTAINED RELATIONSHIP, EVEN THE SCAMMERS Of course the ladies you met on CB or whatever dropped their panties. These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).

At some point in your relationship with a filipina, she is gonna ask for money, gifts if not directly to drop hints.

I am not in any way as experienced as you two titans in the ways of the Philippines as my only experience hitherto has been with Pinays working overseas. You guys are right in that I over-generalized in my last post on the topic, but it was meant to be an unqualified guide rather than a detailed expose.

In my limited experience I concur with you guys have said. There seems to be a tiered system of what the girls are looking for... with the provincial girls seeming to hold a bit more to the 'good girl' image while the urban girls are more progressive. Of course they would ideally love to find that rich, handsome kano. But in the interim these girls will get what they can.

If a guy wants to start a serious romance, there are those who are indeed looking for the Big Walmart in the Sky (an spinoff of an old military motto). Furthermore, if that guy allows himself to be suckered, there are unscrupulous ladies that will take advantage. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Before my arrival I was not offensive, but I was honest that I was looking for a vacation and some casual romance. When asked to elaborate I explained fully. I found that even most of the nice provincial girls still invited me to visit whatever island they are living. There was a caveat that they would not promise me anything, which I took to mean "Take me on an unaffordable vacation and wine me, dine me, seduce me, and help me pay for my tuition/rent/clothes/cell phone/et cetera".

Of course, they will try and take it to the next level. My non-pro student and I get along very well. Rather than accept my offer to buy her a cheap laptop computer (total cost: $500USD for two weeks of fun, + hotel and cheap airfare) she pragmatically said that she would rather have money for her 'college fund'. That equated to $300USD, but she felt that the laptop was too much and the liquidity of cash was more valuable to her. She showed me respect many times by being frugal with the miscellaneous cash I gave her and giving back what she did not spend. She took VERY good care of me in every way imaginable, and I know she was always mostly honest with me. Then she started with the subtle hints of what a great girlfriend she can be, and how she hopes I will not forget her, and will stay in contact with her, then that I would come back and see her again. In other words, she would be interested in a LTR. Meanwhile she gives me enough room to come up to AC to monger (with my assurances to practice safe sex) so as not to scare me off. This same experience extends, albeit to a lesser degree, with my resident female bisexual wingman I posted about in the Makati thread.

My guess is that almost any relationship from FH, save with the most notorious scammer or working girl such as you mentioned (and I hope I am not overestimating my abilities when I say I could sniff them out anyway), would work out roughly the same. There is a basic human ladder of needs, and these girls will take as much as you are willing to offer so long as you show respect and honesty, and do not act too scummy by inviting her up to the room as a trio of bargirls are walking out.

If I am wrong, I've been incredibly lucky despite my ignorance.

Thanks for the insight, brothers.

2J

X Man

02-22-07, 01:43

Oh, I'm not so easy....

BTW, I plan a short Manila / AC trip at the end of March. Let me know if you are in the neighborhood. I'd love to go down to the Visayans, but will probably give it a miss this time. I haven't been to AC in about two years.

X

These girls are NOT stupid, they know if they ingratiate you with their favors THERE is a chance they can get you thinkling about coming back or at least THINKING about the ring. (from what you have been saying it might be working eh?).

Spamhog

Akarshan

03-03-07, 22:48

I would, but I dont think jackson would let me give out email addresses. I have an idea though.

I would also like to know if there is anyway to find an IP address from a chat room like yahoo or some other chat programs. If I had her ISP I could have the authorities track her down and for they might do something about it.

I have girls webcam me sometimes and I want to know if there are any easy to use programs out there that would let me save the stream from the webcam. I would like to save a webcam stream to my hard drive. Anybody got any ideas about how to do this?

ThanksLog in with www.meebo.com using your yahoo id and password, when the messenger loads in the browser, right click on her id and you will get her ISP if she is active.

Thanks

X Man

03-05-07, 11:49

I have used CB. Just before a trip I get a three month subscription. To be honest, the amount of data is overwhelming. I have several hundred chat records / pics, etc. I often move the girls (or they move me) to Yahoo Messenger, where I have differnt files. HOW DO YOU KEEP track of all these women? I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like to throw things away.

The other big site is FilipinaHeart. I met a girl today who said she is on a Cebu-specific site. I can't remember the name.

SO, what is your filing system and what service do you use?

X

X Man

03-06-07, 07:39

At this moment -- 2:30 pm Philippine time, Cherry blossom is having a major glitch. Checking you "in" file will get you random post form different people -- inclucing guys. Some pretty lame guys out there I might add. I guess they feel the same about me.

The problem is, you might be giving personal contact info to a lady and now the whole world can check it out.

Anyone with an active CB subscription, please pm me. Maybe we can get a free year subscription with this kind of screw up?

X Man

Mahku

03-08-07, 10:51

Duh, I done screwed up.

Over time I've been getting these invitations from various girls to join Friendster. I had always just deleted them without taking any actions. But a few months ago I finally gave in and started an account. I logged in a couple of times and then pretty much forgot about it.

The problem is this. On everyone's home page in Friendster they show a friends list, all of the people that one has added as a friend on Friendster, complete with photo and the ability to message them. Every now and then one of my lady friends invited me to add her as a friend and I did so without thinking much about it. I hadn't logged in to friendster for months, but a dozen friends were visible to anyone who looked at my page there. And anyone's page can be found by simply typing in their yahoo or hotmail address in the search function.

Well, last week the inevitable happened. One of these friends took it upon herself to start messaging the other friends in my list, asking how she knew me and what we did together. And from there the shit did hit the fan. Soon messages were flying in and between 3 different continents using about 5 languages, full of all of the dirty details. The thing that united all of them was what they thought of Mahku.

Now mind you, I never made a commitment to any one lady or promised anyone to be my one and only. But Filipina (or Latina or Chinese) jealousy knows no bounds. It's still enough to infuriate a girl if she gets concrete information about what I'm doint with other girls.

Luckily, my relationships with most of these women had already run their course. I had already seen and done most of them a couple of times so I will be more likely to move on to newer contacts anyway. But it's still a good lesson learned. If I do see any of these friendster girls again I'll have to take anti-Bobbiting measures.

I haven't seen any way to make my Friendster friends list invisible to other viewers. I think I'll just have to junk my account.

Good luck to all out there and monger carefully.

Surfer

03-08-07, 19:14

IMHO you really need to be careful to MINIMIZE the number of those types of sites you belong to and be careful not to post much identifying info. Thanks for the warning (I have always rejected invites to join Friendster).

Seems like they have helped you make a fresh start (:

Girlfinder

03-08-07, 22:46

Duh, I done screwed up.
.. I had already seen and done most of them a couple of times so I will be more likely to move on to newer contacts anyway. .
Oh shit Mahku. But what smart trix did you use to do them really? Much work to meet them, and was just one meeting enough?

Thanks for any advice here!

GF

Mahku

03-09-07, 12:16

Yes Trim I tried looking into the settings but I couldn't find a way to let people see my profile AND block the friend list. I could block access to my profile but then there's not point in even being there. I think I'll just junk the whole thing. I think I'll just do like Surfer, refuse all add requests and not be in any site that I'm not paying good attention to.

Girlfinder, no smart tricks since I'm neither smart nor tricky. I just be myself and am always honest with the girls about how I'm travelling around and meeting lots of them. Most of the time it works and except for this friendster episode I don't get in any trouble.

Jambo

03-12-07, 04:12

Mahku, Friendster can be used to your advantage also. There was a chick I chatted with long term. She had big tits and a bunch of her "school" friends showing on her Friendster page. Very nice and sociable girl. Arm candy. Never asked for $ but always mentioned some need she was collecting for, like graduation $ or whatever. But the one time we met it was "no sex". haha. I was going to ignore my instincts and consider a relationship, until i re-checked her Friendster page, and saw pics of a handsome pinoy holding her.

Maybe I will hit up some of the cute friends she has on her list. Anyway I have found a fairly cute girl who is an orphan. She says, "I wan't to help my family". I say, "who is in your family?". She says, "My auntie and lolo (grandad)." Only two? I think. Deal! (but what are the odds it will remain only two with the hands out?)

Panman

03-13-07, 12:04

Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.

She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000

Pute Nut

03-13-07, 12:54

Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.

She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000

Looks like she should have spent a little more time studying and less time chatting..

But thanks for the warning. Now I will immediately stop sending money for yearbooks to filipinas I've never met :D

Member #2001

03-13-07, 18:55

Profile name is Mels Ann and number is 642515. I made myself sound naive and new to PI and she started asking for money for her college graduation yearbook during the second time we chatted. Value needed was somewhere around 12 thousand pesos but told me I could send what I could. Kept repeating the whole "I love you", "I want you to meet my family", "hope I'm not a burden to you" bullshit. Once again, never send money to anyone you never met, no matter how sweet and convincing they look.

She gave me the following information for western union:
NAME; JADELYN PLASAVAS
ADD: 009 SAMPAGUITA STREET,MATINA.DAVAO CITY PHILIPPINES 8000

there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.

Tomdickharry

03-14-07, 04:37

there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.
Usually, the good looking model types are generally scammers. Good looks sells and they got u hook line and sinker!

Teddy Bear 99

03-14-07, 08:49

That's probably not her real picture either. Did you get to see her on a webcam? The photos are professional like from a magazine.

Panman

03-14-07, 10:20

That's probably not her real picture either. Did you get to see her on a webcam? The photos are professional like from a magazine.

No, didn't see her on cam, said she didn't have it. Yes, I noticed that too about the photos, but hey, didn't hurt to try.

there is a website that will tell you what to do if you are scammed or thing you are being scamed. It has a lot of useful information http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm#scammed. I hope this will you and help everyone on this board.

Quite amazing some of those stories, and to think there are people that fall for these tricks from someone they never met in person. Thanks for the link.

Panman

03-20-07, 21:04

Man falls in love in chat room with married woman using actress pictures.

http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSSIN3861520070320

X Man

03-27-07, 17:58

I'm always surprised at all the negativity about online gals. Let me take a wild guess...the guy who sent $45k to some 30ish Singaporean housewife was not on the ISG board, nor was he in sort of any reality that I know of. DUH!

I've reported in the past that I've had 40% success with online women when meeting them, usually within the first day.

Ouch, my last trip will really push down that number. I think it was one out of seven.

Caveats:

1) this trip was MLA / AC rather than my usual Visayans / Mindanao.
2) I had some unusual situations that pushed down numbers (2 cherry girls).

One girl was hot and a follow up meeting looked very promising. Then she asked for "help" for her family and I dropped her. There was another who in the throes of passion, as I had my hand on her crotch, and ....felt the pad, said, "You came at an unlucky time". She elaborated,,,,she had started bleeding that day. Sure enough, she suggested a meeting five days later, but I was already busy. Can I say 2 out of seven if the there was an offer?

Another was cherry but said, "I hope I'm not cherry next time you come". I'm pretty sure she has a very generous sugar daddy and she wants to keep her promise to him....and I don't doubt she'll keep her offer to me. This may be a number I'll take back later. SHe showed up for our date wearing a polka dot mini dress with a plunging neckline. At 5 7, and plenty of bosom she was a complete show stopper. I never had to worry about crossing the street....all vehicles and males and most females slowed down for look. At 18 she already knew her power... and seemed to appreciate the fact that I just laughed at what she was doing. Later she said, "even if I wasn't cherry, you couldn't do me because I'm on my period." The she raised her hemline to show me her crotch. She's playing a very dangerous game.

And there was the other cherry college girl who turned out to be 17. The web sites require the ladies to be 18, so she lied to be on the site. OF COURSE, I did not touch her, didn't try. She was an extremely intelligent young lady and plans to offer her most valuable "gift" to the man she marries. That would be a very luck man indeed.

****Warning: Besides the lady mentioned, I met an AC bar girl 19, who has been in the biz for 3 years! She said she borrowed the ID of her cousin in order to work in a bar. If you have any doubts, don't!

Then there was the call center girl, living in Makati, from Negros, who spent most of our time at Hard Rock Cafe sending text messages. I was glad to get rid of her, even though she was hot. One of the cutest girls, from Pampanga, had worked at ABCam. Once we started necking she suddenly asked for help for her family. How much? She quotes something exorbitant...and out the door she went.

So, not much luck with the online girls this time around.

I did manage to spend two nights with a travel agent I met. One of the tightest little holes I've had in a long time....

X Man

Bumbo

04-14-07, 05:28

Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.

X Man

04-14-07, 16:04

She offers a service for money, so I wouldn't call that a scam. But, what you are suggesting sounds like a scam - well you already said it was...

If she simply asked for "help" then I guess you could define help in your own way.

My advice is find a better way to spend your time.

X

Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.

TeenieWeenie

04-16-07, 02:28

Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.

First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.

After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!

I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.

X Man

04-16-07, 14:33

Thanks for swallowing a bit of pride and sending that. Please send us more of HER information. We'd love to see some of those pics you have.

My advice is pretend to stay on friendly terms with her. Then meet her in the Philippines. After all, you could get at least get one night of sex as a reward for your generosity. Then change hotels.... Later, after you've safely exited the Philippines, send her a message about the STD you have.

I've done some incredibly stupid things in my life, but somehow I haven't donated excessive amounts to women -- other than my ex. As for bar girls....

When I was still a teen, 20+ years ago, I had the uncommonly good fortune of finding my naive ass doing R&R in Subic Bay courtesy of the USN. I remember two of my shipmates (friends) spending money and lavishing gifts on one particular go-go girl in order to win her affections. She (and her friends) were quite good at keeping the friction low and the income high. I was dating one of the friends, and I remember wondering how these two guys could be so friggin "stupid" (to quote TeenieW).

And if you think AC is incredible....you should have seen Subic in it's heyday. One thing that was different was that in many of the bigger bars they had dance floors (for customers and the bar girls) and sometimes very good live bands. I wish we had more of that in AC so that some of us fat asses could lose some weight. I still remember one night dancing to B-52's ...rock lobster...."down, down, down..."

And since AC bars don't have a dance floor for customers (with a few exceptions) please don't get up on the stage. Customers go there to look at the ladies...not your drunken ass.

I guess this message has wandered all over the place...sorry.

X Man

Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.

First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.

After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!

I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.

Bees11

04-16-07, 16:44

Just wondering if anyone has had any experiences with answering ads on either of these two sites?

I joined face-pic.com awhile ago and before a recent trip to the Philippines I sent messages to several of the gals profiled on the site. I got a couple of replies of which one was legitimate and the lady I met was the same as the one photographed on the profile. It was a good experience and I ended up in the cot with her for free.

However the second gal who I corresponded with was not the same person whose photograph appeared on the profile. I should have known something was up because right from the get go her conversation was about me joining up to see her on a webcam site. Eventually she agreed to meet me despite me not joining up and immediately it was obvious the gal was definitely not the same hot lady pictured on the profile. It was a very short meeting!!!

My question is to whether any mongers have joined the fling.com site and have had luck meeting the same gals pictured? The are some beautiful gals listed and some look Philippina while others look more western. I am just wondering as to this is a scam like Friendfinder where you pay a joining fee and don't actually get to meet any of the members or just webcam gals touting for business like on face-pic or maybe true life gals looking for sex, a BF or husband?

Cany anyone help me out as I was considering taking out a 7 day trial membership for $9.95 just to see if could meet some of these local Philippino gals?

Spam Hog

04-17-07, 10:27

Please don't send money to a girl you have never met in person.

First of all, if a girl you have never met asks you for money, she is a scammer. Even if you have established a "relationship" with her. Case in point: I had a 6 month, almost daily web-cam chat with a young lady who in the end dumped me. (I found out she had been lying by checking her friendster, so friendster is good for something. Just don't put too many personal details on it.) We had cyber-sex a few times, but never actually met.

After the first few months I thought I knew her well, so I started sending her gifts and money. STUPID ME!! Cost me $800 in the end, for a few stupid online jerk-off sessions. And she never got completely naked!

I certainly hope all you guys here are savy enough not to even consider sending money to these online girls.

It takes a big man to admit something like this and for the benefit of others, hoping they dont make the same mistake. We should not judge TW too harshly as such vixens are very good at that sort of chicanery, that is the WORST type of scammer, the one who gets guys emotionally involved then bang-Zoom.

I think if we were all honest we would admit some of the foolish things we have done for pussy and how even the most expereinced of us got hoodwinked, happens all the time.

Bees11, this sounds like "pros" at work here, naturally they are gonna post pix of the most beautiful girls they can find to attrach clientele. I've mentioned this one before and in my mongering past had some good luck with it. www.adultfreindfinder.com, some of the girls were pro's, semi pro's, web cam cyber sex girls, some were just horney little vixens.

You have to pay to join it if you want to contact the girls directly

Good luck

Spamhog

Mahku

04-26-07, 05:55

A chat I just had with a girl in Yahoo Messenger. She can be found in Cherry Blossoms, ID #274493.

MJB: i hope i can go back to manila for work

Mahku: ok, that would be nice...we could meet there

MJB: yes but i want to go back there as soon as i have my fare

MJB: can you help my dear

Mahku: maybe some day if you're my wife

MJB: can you help me dear til you will come gere

Mahku: How many guys do you ask for this....dear?

MJB: no i only ask for you

Mahku: oh ok, well how much do you need? Is a million dollars enough?

MJB: no its not

MJB: i just need 2500 pesos its 50$

MJB: in your money

Mahku: oh ok then let's make it 2 million, you may need to buy a few drinks and snacks along the way

Mahku: OK, just as soon as I have 2 million dollars I'll send it to you...just be patient ok?

MJB: okay

Mahku: OK then, I'll go now....I have to go out and start looking for $2 million

MJB: i see take care

Mahku: yes you too, see you next time for the next chat

Mahku: maybe by then I'll even have $3 million for you

X Man

04-26-07, 09:36

Mahku, she only wants $50 - but since you offerred to double it, send her $100. Then send me the remaining $1,999,900. I'll build a beachside mansion and you can stay there anytime.

Strangely, she hasn't been online at CB since March 3. Not the typical scammer MO.

I played along with one a while back. She insisted that I send airfare rather than ferry fare. She's probably still waiting at Western Union.

The dull ones are easy to suss out. The good ones are patient and pull a lot of heart strings -- those are the ones you have to be wary about.

Spamhog....can you recommend a detective in PI? A friend of a friend is looking for one.

X Man

A chat I just had with a girl in Yahoo Messenger. She can be found in Cherry Blossoms, ID #274493.

Bees11

04-30-07, 02:35

I decided to give Fling.com a go and I took out a 7 day trial membership for the $9.95 to see if I could hook up with some high quality looking gals on my many trips to the Philippines who posted their profiles on the site.

After mailing to about 50 profiles that I thought might have potential, of the 30 replies I received, I think I only isolated only 3 gals that were either looking for a foreign boyfriend/husband or were happy to accept a p4p situation for sex. I was lucky enough to get the phones numbers off these 3 gals and I will attempt to see them on my next trip and go from there.

As I originally thought when I first looked at the site, the greater majority of the replies I received to my inital mail were only a front for gals looking webcam sex customers. Now while there is nothing wrong with that if you like that sort of thing, but cyber sex is not really my go as I prefer the flesh on flesh experience more!!!

Most of the gals' profiles indicated that they were looking for a b/f, but after some friendly chatting online with them, they were soon on the front foot asking me to sign up to their webcam link.

Also I have great doubts about the majority of the photos used by the girls on their profile. After surveying many profiles from several different countries, the same hot, sexy photos keep popping up many times over, obviously stolen, cut and pasted from other profiles.

My advice would be to avoid this site especially those looking to take out a 2-3 months Gold or Silver membership in the hope of finding even a legitimate 4p4 gal as you most likely to be disappointed.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

X Man

04-30-07, 13:24

Thanks for the post bees11,

How on earth do you ascertain wether the girls want boyfriend or p4p in only 7 days???

I've used CHerry Blossom and (despite what some others have said) found it rare to get the scammer / cam girl. As for p4p, I've never had it offerred, although some have indicated their willingness to travel with me. Is that how you determine p4p?

One of the first CB girls I had turned out to be a cam girl, but chatted with me when she didn't have a customer. She told me about her site once or twice, but I never paid a peso. She spent many hours chatting with me. She was on Negros, but I just found out she's in Manila.

I told her, "don't go to LA cafe". She quickly replied, "do you know that place?".

Says she's never been there, but I suspect the word is out all over Manila. If you want to meet a guapo man with money, go to LA cafe.

X Man

I decided to give Fling.com a go and I took out a 7 day trial membership for the $9.95 to see if I could hook up with some high quality looking gals on my many trips to the Philippines who posted their profiles on the site.

After mailing to about 50 profiles that I thought might have potential, of the 30 replies I received, I think I only isolated only 3 gals that were either looking for a foreign boyfriend/husband or were happy to accept a p4p situation for sex. I was lucky enough to get the phones numbers off these 3 gals and I will attempt to see them on my next trip and go from there.

As I originally thought when I first looked at the site, the greater majority of the replies I received to my inital mail were only a front for gals looking webcam sex customers. Now while there is nothing wrong with that if you like that sort of thing, but cyber sex is not really my go as I prefer the flesh on flesh experience more!!!

Most of the gals' profiles indicated that they were looking for a b/f, but after some friendly chatting online with them, they were soon on the front foot asking me to sign up to their webcam link.

Also I have great doubts about the majority of the photos used by the girls on their profile. After surveying many profiles from several different countries, the same hot, sexy photos keep popping up many times over, obviously stolen, cut and pasted from other profiles.

My advice would be to avoid this site especially those looking to take out a 2-3 months Gold or Silver membership in the hope of finding even a legitimate 4p4 gal as you most likely to be disappointed.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

FireWalker

05-01-07, 13:05

Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.

My take on the dating sites is basically this:

I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.

I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO

X Man

05-01-07, 15:58

Hmmm, interesting comment about the "good girls". I've met a few that fit your profile. At least one has had her skinny ass photos on the ISG message boards. A very lame attempt to get money....about the same time her "fiance" emailed me since she forwarded my photos (of her) to him with my email attached. Duh.

Your advice is good, but I assume you don't REALLY want to get "involved" with a bar girl either....am I right? I've met some good ones at CB. Also met a Burgos bar girl who pretended she was something else. She was fun and I spend a lot less that a Burgos bar fine. I hated the alligator tears though.

I wish CB would put the naughty ones in a seperate "red flag" place - let's call it pergatory. I'll chat with them. I'm always happy to meet women of low morals.

FireWalker, as for reporting the dodgy ones at CB, has it ever crossed your mind that you're teaching them how to get better at their game? Just let them be.

Good point about "good at the Internet". If they are online everyday, why is that?

Some have jobs ... I had a great time with a travel agent on my last visit...she even got me a discount on the hotel. I gave her the savings and told her to buy herself a gift.

Another bullshitted me saying she was in a computer course and working on her project. Yea right. Then her profile said engaged and she got a bit haughty. That fell thru (as they often do) and now she's online again all times of the day and night -- despite "graduating" from her computer course.

One of my first chat friends was a cam girl in Negros. Now she's in MLA. Damn, hope I can meet her in July.

Thanks for the post FW.

X Man

Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.

My take on the dating sites is basically this:

I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.

I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO

TeenieWeenie

05-02-07, 02:28

Guys.

If you are using adultfriendfinder.com in Philippines, maybe it is okay, but it has HORRIBLE reviews as a way to find women in the USA. Then again, finding pussy in the USA is frequently a frustrating experieince.

I totally agree with the comments that a girl skilled in internet usage is one to avoid. Think about it. Where did she get that knowledge? What is she using it for?

If you are willing to weed through the obvious scammers, and get burned once or twice, then I do think CB is a good way to meet filipinas. Not as good as going to the islands, of course, but not all of us can do that. Just remember this: not only will a "good" girl not ask for money, she will NOT accept it if you offer it.

But. Why are we discussing finding "good girls" on this forum?

Spam Hog

05-02-07, 04:09

Cherry Blossoms is one of the few sites where the girls will get booted off for asking for money and the like. That may be why you haven't run into a scammer yet. I have reported some of these girls and they were gone in short order there.

My take on the dating sites is basically this:

I don't think it is a good way to meet girls. Even the "good girls" or so they say, know the scammers. The scammers may even be a relative of theirs. (As I have experienced). These scammers whisper in their ear and counsel them on how to "handle" you and what to say.

I find that if a girl is good at the internet that is not the type of girl you want to get in any way involved with. I have found that bargirls ,who don't usually have the time to become good at the internet, have more integrity than the "good girl" internet girls. IMHO

I've seen a lot of relationships over here, some that work, some that don;t work and some that kinda work, of the ones that OVERWHELMING DONT WORK the bar girls lead the pack.

As a crusty old master Sergeant told me a LOOOOONNNNGGGGG time ago:

"You can take the girl outta the bar, but you can NEVER take the bar outta the girl."

I can't begin to count the number of poor fools who failed trying to prove that statement wrong... they all thought things would be different with their particular one or they would be the exception to the rule.

FYI, Bar Girls DO work the internet, in many cases they have a better command of the English language than their provincial or college educated sisters. Any girl who solicits you for money on the Inet is a hustler, they make a business out of it, there are different degrees, there are the girls who
are serious about finding "Mr Right" and until he comes along will try and get money from anybody dumb enough to send it, then there are the "pros" who work it for money soley and will put on Tit shows or talk dirty in a sort of cyber ***** mentality, it beats working in a bar for some slave driver Mama san and an enterprising 'Ho can always supplement her income.

Yes their are "good" girls on the internet, I've seen more sucessful relationships that originated on a chat line than I have as a result of a bar fine.

Good luck

Spamhog

Gaijin Gigolo

05-02-07, 07:57

I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! So far, I haven't come across any from Singapore or Indonesia yet though. And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)

I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Thailand so we'll see how it goes.

The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.

Anybody else using camfrog?

Gaijin Gigolo

05-02-07, 08:07

Man falls in love in chat room with married woman using actress pictures.

http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSSIN3861520070320

Good god what an idiot. Anybody got this guy's contact info? I have a bridge in Arizona I need to sell him....

Gaijin Gigolo

05-02-07, 08:10

Every time I use to go to xmatch.com go to chat room you always see the gals from phili try to spam you if you want to watch them in private for $$ that you can send her money by westerunion, I wonder has anybody tried this con on the gal and say ok I send you money after she gives you info, you give her the phony westernunion number. After you get so called private show when you done watching and log off yahoo messenger when she goes to westerunion to get money SURPRISE! There is no money and the number is a phony. That will teach her to spam on adult chats sites! I was thinking of trying that and use the webcam capture to record the session.

LOL! Brilliant!

Bilbo Baggins

05-02-07, 14:13

I use camfrog I go into the chat rooms and click on videos thats about all I can do it gets pretty boring I haven't found what you have. Its hard to chat sometimes you mostly get ignored. Excuse my ignorance how do you get to chat one on one?

X Man

05-02-07, 16:21

Damn SH, I didn't know you were a poet.

On a slightly different vein, I once read somewhere that sex is the most honest of interpersonal relationships. This makes sense to me.

When you have dinner with someone, there are all kinds of posturing. You have to worry about getting something stuck in your teeth, should we go dutch, etc....but with sex, you make odd animal kinds of noise, swap bodily fluids, pussy farts, whatever...

I suppose this is true if two people actually like each other, or even if they are exchange money for sex. But if someone is using sex to manipulate you, then I guess it isn't so honest. I'll have to think about this one some more.

Bar girls. Money for adult fun ... so uncomplicated. Add love to the equation and you get grief.

I'm completely sober, but not sure if I'm making any sense. What do the rest of you think? Is sex the most honest of interpersonal relationships?

SH, let me know when you publish your book of bar girl poetry. I want an autographed copy.

X Man

I've seen more sucessful relationships
that originated on a chat line
than I have as a result of a bar fine.

Spamhog

Gaijin Gigolo

05-02-07, 18:56

I use camfrog I go into the chat rooms and click on videos thats about all I can do it gets pretty boring I haven't found what you have. Its hard to chat sometimes you mostly get ignored. Excuse my ignorance how do you get to chat one on one?

Chatting in the chat room rarely works...like you said, you mostly get ignored because of so many other people chatting. But once you click on a video, there's a little orange bubble at the top right above the video box...click that and you can send a private message, if the girl doesn't have private messaging disabled. Granted, it is hit or miss to some degree, but no more than Yahoo or any other chat room. What's worked for me is to just chit chat a bit and get to know the girl first...too many guys on there jump right into "hey, show us your boobs/ass/legs/whatever" and get nowhere. Good luck mate...

Island Hump

05-06-07, 07:11

This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).

Spam Hog

05-07-07, 04:22

This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).

I would have to say that most of the guys on the board are 30+, most like age 40 and a few naughty old bastards like myself in their mid fifties and plus. I suppose a profile of guys we see on the board and in The Phils sampling the ladies might be older westerners fed up (Divorced) with western women, have the FINANCIAL means to come to the Phils and whoop it up, many retired (as I am) or Gettin' close.

I do see younger guys here, lots are divers, a few European back packer types etc. But they can score as well or even better than the older, more monied counterpart as most Filipina like younger men.

I first became a convert to the ASIAN PERSUASIAN when I was an 18 year old grunt serving in Vietnam, haven't been able to shake it since.

Good luck

Spamhog

X Man

05-08-07, 15:45

Only 22. Yea, forget about it. These girls will want nothing to do with you. You guys fk all night and pay too little.

SH, my first Asian love was the shy Chinese immigrant who waited at the same bus top as me in first year hs. She was one of only a few Asians in the whole hs of 2000. She was super exotic and also super shy - as I was. Duh.

Just a few years later I made my way to Subic Bay courtesy of the same employer as SH, only I was called a swabbie rather than a grunt. Only 19.

IsleHump, the girls would have nothing to do with me when I was 19. They really like the older guys. I recommend you go to Pattaya.

X Man

This is Officially and UnOfficially my first quote , and I have to say this forum is awesome. I will be sending my $20 bucks soon. My quote/question/comment is that I noticed (no offence to anybody) that majority of the Members here are 30+yr old. Is the Pleasure of being entertained by lovely exotic flipno ladies a mid aged man fantasy only. I'm early 22yrs old and started my quest to find the perfect hump in the perfect hotel for the perfect donation when I was 18. I'm guessing most the guys my age are in South Korea with the Drinky Girls during there military tours there (where I was intorduced to the lovely Flipno).

Neon Noodle

05-09-07, 21:22

I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! So far, I haven't come across any from Singapore or Indonesia yet though. And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)

I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Thailand so we'll see how it goes.

The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.

Anybody else using camfrog?I use CamFrog, and was going to mention it also. Your right some of the rooms get packed and it is hard to get a word in,, or as in the Thai rooms its mostly in Thai language save for the beggers, but I think the Thai server has cracked down on the women getting naked there.. I found it worth while to look into the smaller rooms where its not as fast. I talk with a few Filipinas there and they seem cool so far and looking for whatever really.

Some of the women "showing" on there are pre-recorded videos, not all, but have seen alot. You can also tell whos watching you, which tell a person ur intrested. The Pro version is like $50,, I haven't sprung for it yet though,, but bigger vid screen and mutiple ones would be nice. U can also tell what room ur contacts are in.

The Fling site that someone mentioned before is mostly women from North America that are real, most filipinas there are bots, or porn cammers. I only know of a few that are normal so to say. I got a free account there,,but I'd never pay for it thats for sure.

Also would like to mention Webdate.com , its a little better than Fling site, more of a normal dating site, it might even be free I think,, not sure about that. They have a webcam chat rooms as well and more regular filipinas there, than Fling. I have been a member there for years,, and before it was heavy with Flips,,lol.

Finally a filipina that I know in Manila always said internet girls are not the best,,but most in cafes if not all are scammers or just plain old bad news. The ones with home internet access are better choice if your looking to meet a "Good girl". She claims to be a good girl, and after chatting regularly for over 6 months she never asked for a dime, so maybe she is.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Blink157

05-17-07, 12:01

hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.

those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.

cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.

anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.

happy hunting!!!!

blink

Hobby Knob

05-19-07, 02:58

is this a friend you know in person, or someone whom you met online?

i would be careful, i have heard many sad stories to get "mabait" guys to "help them"

not saying this is the case here, but i have heard it all before.

hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.

those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.

cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.

anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.

happy hunting!!!!

blink

Crypton

05-19-07, 04:11

I have been using Camfrog also but not for picking up women - mostly for voyeurism. As pointed out, the most popular rooms are so busy with beggars that you cant get a word in edgewise. Plus the women are exhibitionists mostly - they are not looking to hook up. I also find that SE and E Asian woman don't show as much as white chicks. I tend to stick to NA or UK rooms. Here you can see couples having sex live on cam. After a week of using the non pro version, I sprung for the pro verison ($54). It's good in that you can watch mutiple (up to 100) cams at once. But full screen is not something I would count on. The resoltuion on most of these cams is so low that when you turn them into a big window they are pixelated to the point of being useless. Sociologically, I am amazed how easy it is to get women to strip - with just a bucch of seemingly sincere compliments.But I guess this is no news considering what happens at Mardi Gras.

Chhers.

Spam Hog

05-20-07, 04:24

hello to all,
off the topic a bit. i got informed by a fren of mine about a nbi raid in angeles city, which had happen somedays ago.

those are so called "studios", apartments equipped with a pc and gurls go online on various sites there tomake money.

cops, politicians look at it like a new source of geting money out of this by doing raids, threads etc. its quite famou snow to make money with this.

anyway, i also get t know that one of the model was raped by an nbi officer, i have his name and his cp number. the gurl he raped was brought to a hotel room, after that she was send to jail for 5 days. she released now, i wanted to help her, send her first for check up to hospital , but because it was allrady 5 days ago they tod her to go to dswd, some social worker organisation for helping gurls etc ( i also got to know she is 17 so he raped a minor!!).
now this guy has balls, he was calling and txting her again when he was nearbye, guess this guys think they can do evrything. im so angry and pissed and i realy wanted to help this gurl very quick and get this motherf...er into jail.
so if any of you guys have advise and have suggestion on this, please pm me. i like to help her and i like to see this human garbage brought to justice.

happy hunting!!!!

blink

let me give you some advice that may save your life: dont get involved in this!!!!!

you have no idea of the complexities of the situation. right now, election time in the pi, all of this is politically related, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. if the nbi or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for any type of transgression. there is a lot of talk nowadays about "protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "cyber sex dens" etc, fred lim, the notorious former mayor of manila is running again and showing pix on tv of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.

this filipina might be able to go to some organization like gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of your involvement in it.

if she is working the cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. dont get involved in it, you have no standing at all and if "they" think she is the gf of a foreigner they will smell money and you make her situation worse.

find another one, plenty of 'em.

spamhog

OldLoad

05-20-07, 06:24

Hi Guy!

Spam hog is right! Keep away run away!

I lived in and did business in PH for 3 years. Do not get tagged by the NBI.

If you get tagged by the NBI. It can get back to you, even if you are just an innocent.

If this NBI guy is bad enough the locals will lose him. But every "story" has a story.

Let me give you some advice that may save your life: DONT GET INVOLVED IN THIS!!!!!

You have no idea of the complexities of the situation. Right now, election time in the PI, ALL OF THIS IS POLITICALLY RELATED, that means the guy with the most money wins and does what he wants. If the NBI or the police are working for him, they do what they want and little recourse for ANY type of transgression. There is a lot of talk nowadays about "Protecting the public's morals" by raiding bars, shuting down "Cyber sex dens" etc, Fred Lim, the notorious Former mayor of Manila is running again and showing pix on TV of raids on bars he sponsored as part of his campaign.

This Filipina MIGHT be able to go to some organization like Gabriella or something and get their assistance, but that should be the extent of YOUR involvement in it.

If she is working the Cams she isn;t worht it anyhow, its a pity but that is the way it is, rememeber this is the 3rd world and crap like this is common place. DONT GET INVOLVED IN IT, YOU HAVE NO STANDING AT ALL AND IF "THEY" THINK SHE IS THE GF OF A FOREIGNER THEY WILL SMELL MONEY AND YOU MAKE HER SITUATION WORSE.

Find another one, plenty of 'em.

Spamhog

W B260

05-20-07, 10:54

LOL! Brilliant!Great idea, Bumbo!!! Can anyone share with us how a western union number looks like. How many digits, etc.? LOL!

Blink157

05-20-07, 11:40

Hi,

Thanks for the advise Spamhog and Hobbyknob.

I gave her info what to do and thats it for me. She told me she will think of it, but maybe she won't continue cause she fear for her lifeandher auntie who arrives from oversea told her also to stop this, so I'm out of this now.

I woud like to see this guy busted, but it ain't my war. These days its also hard to beliveand I guess I will stick to the rules, seeing is believing.

I'm back in July, maybe some of you guys will be around and we can have a few beers.

x: I have to go, thanks for the interesting chat.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i have boyfriend already
x: Wow, thanks for the intersting information.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: your welcome
Christine Butuan sweet girl: so plss dont send me any message
x: I didn't send you a message. You sent me a message. But, next time you send me a message, I promise not to respond....after all - you have a boyfriend!
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just replied your message

(I had sent a generic message to several ladies in my Mindanao ym list suggesting I might be soon taking an overseas trip.)

x: Why did you reply to my message if you don't want any messages? Are you having some mental ilness?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: i just reply coz i want you to know that im taken
x: By who?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who tried to chat with me
Christine Butuan sweet girl: somebody who ignore me before
x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines
x: Well, I wish you the best of luck. It seems like you have a guy you can depend on.
x: Does he speak spanish or any other Philippino language?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never
Christine Butuan sweet girl: dutch
x: Well, maybe you can introduce us. I'll be in Mindanao in July. WIll he be there the same time. I'll go to Davao and CDO.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: nope, im going to singapore to meet him
Christine Butuan sweet girl: who's US?
x: "us"...well, that means people of the usa. If he's dufch, I don't want to meet him. Thanks anyway.
x: How long will you stay in Singapore?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: one month
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes he is dutch
Christine Butuan sweet girl: why you dont like dutch people?? he is nice
x: I've met some nice dutch people.
x: How do you know he's nice. Have you met him face to face?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes
x: Where?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: in butuan
Christine Butuan sweet girl: last january
x: I asked you if he visited Philippines, and you said no.
Christine Butuan sweet girl: yes but not in july

????then I quote our exchange from earlier...

x: x: Has he ever been to the Philippines?
Christine Butuan sweet girl: never been to the philippines

????

Christine Butuan sweet girl: he just visit last january
x: You should write a book about your dream. It's always nice to read some good fiction.
x: Good luck Christine. I have to go now.
x: Remember, you have a boyfriend...so you shouldn't write me anymore.
x: Try to control yourself.

Thanks, x man. I was unaware of this thread. Most of the cam girls I've been falling for are on asianbabecams.com. I had assumed that most or all of them are bar girls.

I'm new at this, and I guess I'm just in awe of how sexy some of these girls are, perfect bodies, young, etc. and I just wondered whether I'll be able to connect with such honeys as these if I just show up and hit the bars.

Sure do appreciate your response and the insights on this thread.

Buko Max

06-08-07, 05:35

I once posted my email in my profile for many months on a pay for site by writing something like this: myid yafoo
Hello X Man,

Recently, I was perusing several websites in search of new talent trying to decide which websites I sould join. Going through some of the profiles, I spotted a few that tried that trick. One webcat even watermarked her email on one of her photos! Last week, I did find a 19 y.o. who blatantly put her email in her profile so I contacted her without hesitation because this week they pulled her plug.

X Man

06-08-07, 15:29

Mattrick, what sites are you using. Top secret?

Sometimes the ones who give contact data do it without realizing the rules. That may be the case with the one you mention. You may have an exclusive contact with someone who may be a bit fresh. Good luck. You never know with these girls at the "penpal" sites.

As for those who actually bend the rules, they might be a bit hard core. Nothing wrong with that if you recognize it up front. I've used CherryBlossom and I actually advised CB to create a "pergatory" section. Instead of excluding the rule benders, put them in pergatory. Some of us like the bad girls. Of course they ignored my advice.

X Man

Hello X Man,

Recently, I was perusing several websites in search of new talent trying to decide which websites I sould join. Going through some of the profiles, I spotted a few that tried that trick. One webcat even watermarked her email on one of her photos! Last week, I did find a 19 y.o. who blatantly put her email in her profile so I contacted her with out hesitation because this week they pulled her plug.

X Man

06-08-07, 15:42

Go ahead and set up a meeting, but don't tell them when you will arrive. Bar hop on the first night and then think about calling these girls the next day. (You do have their phone numbers, don't you?) If your dinner date doesn't go well, dump her and ....(the rest of the story).

If you are a newbie, they will fall all over themselves to get exclusive rights, which may or may not be good depending on the girl. Some girls will give you great gfe (and possibly fall in love with you), and others will try to steal from the golden goose.

Basically, you'd have to be a fuckwit not to have a good time in the Philippines.

Thanks, x man. I was unaware of this thread. Most of the cam girls I've been falling for are on asianbabecams.com. I had assumed that most or all of them are bar girls.

I'm new at this, and I guess I'm just in awe of how sexy some of these girls are, perfect bodies, young, etc. and I just wondered whether I'll be able to connect with such honeys as these if I just show up and hit the bars.

Sure do appreciate your response and the insights on this thread.

Amadeuss

06-09-07, 01:17

I am since 3 years playing that field on CB

Make it clear that you dun believe in cyberlove but need to meet her
Make it clear it is her to meet only and not the bunch of leeches ....aunties, friends...
Make it clear no money upfront but full payback when you meet.
Tell her she shall be ready to travel then with you immediately on vacation to a nice place..Boracaz, Camuigin, Bohol.....

That will drop the sheer number quickly down to a few, but good ones, worth to meet

Good luck

Buko Max

06-09-07, 01:23

Mattrick, what sites are you using. Top secret?

Sometimes the ones who give contact data do it without realizing the rules. That may be the case with the one you mention. You may have an exclusive contact with someone who may be a bit fresh. Good luck. You never know with these girls at the "penpal" sites.

As for those who actually bend the rules, they might be a bit hard core. Nothing wrong with that if you recognize it up front.
One of the websites I was looking at was asianeuro. You know as well as I that some of these girls are smart and know the ropes with these sites. In the case of the teenager, she knew what she was doing. Some websites charge a fee to the girls in order to retreive their messages. She was just trying to bypass the middleman. Thanks, I will keep you posted on my progress. PM me for more info.

X Man

06-09-07, 16:21

I'm sure Botak's rules work for Botak, but I would never do any of the things he mentions. The only one that makes sense to me is the first one, but I make that clear only if they are moving too quickly.

"I don't want to meet your family or friends"? Who would want to meet a person who said that? I wouldn't.

I suspect Botak is only doing p4p, and if that's your ideal, then follow his advice. But why join CB to find p4p? It doesn't make sense to me. Most on CB are regular girls and that is what attracts me.

X Man

I am since 3 years playing that field on CB

Make it clear that you dun believe in cyberlove but need to meet her
Make it clear it is her to meet only and not the bunch of leeches ....aunties, friends...
Make it clear no money upfront but full payback when you meet.
Tell her she shall be ready to travel then with you immediately on vacation to a nice place..Boracaz, Camuigin, Bohol.....

That will drop the sheer number quickly down to a few, but good ones, worth to meet

Good luck

Lobo Loco

06-10-07, 04:09

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?

I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).

If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.

DanTheMan

06-11-07, 02:38

Any one tried cebuanas.com for meeting women? HAd any success oiff here? PM or reply in forum. Either way is good

Thanks guys

Hobby Knob

06-11-07, 05:40

the cam girls I met in the phils were not as hot in person. (lots of makeup involved) They were still good looking, but not what I expected.

Don't worry, I've seen some MAJOR babes in the KTV's.

You won't have any problem and you won't have to settle.

Trust me.

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?

I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).

If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.

X Man

06-11-07, 13:51

Lobo, you will have time for both.

I've met some stunners just using the regular "penpal" services. Many of these girls will get on cam, but don't expect anything other than a chat. There are exceptions and it will usually be obvious when exceptions are forthcoming. My problem is I've never been able to meet even 10% of those I've been interested in. Oh, and secondary problem is less that 50% put out on the first meeting.

Good question about compensation. I think a lot depends on the girl. I'd say all expenses plus 1000 a day is reasonable.

As for ladies working in the bars, some guys pay a fee to the bar. You should be able to avoid that. I think if you bar fine a lady one night and then she misses work the next night, she gets fined. I would assume that if she goes to work the next night and then tells the boss that she has to go to province for a few days, you should be able to avoid any extra bar charges. I suppose the bar owners on this list are cursing me now.

I'll be looking forward to hearing how all this pans out. And how about some pics of these cam girls!

X Man

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Maybe one night in AC will show I don't need to bother with the webcam girls at all. Only thing that makes me wonder is that some of these cambabes are way hotter than most of the pics that mongers have posted here. Pics not representative?

I don't want to tie my hands with prearranged plans, but neither do I want to get there and find that I have got to settle for average pussy. In truth, the prospect of a GFE weekend with one of these babes excites me more than hustling sts from bj bars, but that's just me. There could be room for both ;o).

If one were to treat a "10" to a Boracay weekend ("dream vacation for these girls") what kind of money should change hands? I figure she should pitch in something :o for getting the high style deal, but I should recompense for lost income as well as persuade her to put up with me.

Khun Larry

06-11-07, 17:03

I have corresponded online only with some young ladies from these sites and hope to meet them if all goes as planned. There is no fee and email address can be readily exchanged. They appear to be non p4p sites.

Anyone with experience on these sites or similar sites or maybe myspace?

Lobo Loco

06-11-07, 18:36

I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.

Metro33777

06-11-07, 20:28

I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.These photos are from a sex chat line Streamate. If you actually go to the Philippines, they will meet with you. They will actually marry you. All of them want to better their lives. They are good looking babes for sure. I have actually called a couple of them and chatted with them.

FireWalker

06-11-07, 22:15

I have corresponded online only with some young ladies from these sites and hope to meet them if all goes as planned. There is no fee and email address can be readily exchanged. They appear to be non p4p sites.

Anyone with experience on these sites or similar sites or maybe myspace?

They will cost you more than P4P, how do you think they pay for internet time?

Xuehanyu

06-11-07, 22:33

I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.These girls are all available online but you have to register and pay a fee up front in return for time credits. It's more expensive than the real thing. All the girls are Philippinos.

Lobo Loco

06-12-07, 06:15

These photos are from a sex chat line Streamate.First I've heard of Streamate, but these sites are springing up daily. What is happening is that a "studio" (cams, computers, girls) sells the same feed to multiple sites. Now a girl is monitoring several sites at once as she sits there in her underwear. It accounts for the glazed look in the eyes.

These girls are all available online but you have to register and pay a fee up front in return for time credits. It's more expensive than the real thing.They are not free. It will actually cost you $1.00 - 2.00 a minute, and this can add up so fast that you spend more money this way than you would spend for real. Call it instant gratification.

Khun Larry

06-12-07, 06:57

I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.

I would put some money up that the last pic "isq1" is available

AsiaFloyd

06-12-07, 14:35

as i arrive back in the phils next week i paid for one month at AFF. A lot of them look like they could be current or ex bar enviornment.
Anyhow what surprised me is the high number that have comfirmed they are bi-sexual or bi-curious. surly in a general populace of say 1000 females in the 18-38 y.o. bracket i would think only 5-10% would openly admit having wet dreams between the legs about other females but on AFF in the philippines it seems to be running 30-40%. just a thought.
Maybe i should get a date with one and get her to bring her bisexual running mate with her.

Khun Larry

06-13-07, 07:25

They will cost you more than P4P, how do you think they pay for internet time?

Not sure.

Last girl I met online was a college grad engineer earning about $400 a month in Cebu. A cherry girl. She never seemed to need money and never asked in 2 years. She was a thrifty little cutie. When she hit 25 the desire to mary was too strong so we went our separate ways. Nice GF experience which I hope to be lucky enough to repeat

Buko Max

06-13-07, 12:10

They are not free. It will actually cost you $1.00 - 2.00 a minute, and this can add up so fast that you spend more money this way than you would spend for real. Call it instant gratification.
Yes your right and out of that $1.00 - $2.00 per minute, the girl only makes $0.20 per minute do to several layers of people including the website, webmaster, her boss, etc. Everybody gets their cut.

Blink157

06-16-07, 09:54

hi to all,
just reading the posts here about camgurls in those paid sites.
Most of this gurls wanted to have fun doing this. Some of them will never meet you, some will meet you only for shopping and dining with your friends, some of them you can screw and some are really lookin into serious relation (but who wants that?? not me LOL)

I have numerous contacts to those gurls, I mentioned that before, its because some of them work to me or with me, I prefer this term cause I think I treat them way better then they work for pinoy guys/gurls, cause after a while they pay late or dont pay at all :D

I don thave sex with them, unless they offer me, but when Im in the PI there are plenty of other options so if somebody thinks here I get those chicks for free, thats not the truth. Also, if you get to personal, they will ask and ask for money , cashadvance or other things...thats pinoy way :D

Here is what works for me. Even some of them work to me Im also intersted to met new gurls up and see where it goes. Before I fly to PI I chat them up, get their fone and ym id ( you have to spend some minutes in private ) and when Im not busy I leave them offline or txt them and see whats goin on. Its also nice to get to know some new gurls , have them with you watching a movie, treat them dinner.....
One thing, if they show up with friends, try to speak to ur loved ones alone. Most of the gurls have multiple boyfriends pinoys or/and foreigners and if they gona meet you alone, nobody should know that, so be descrete ;-)

One last thing,those gurls are more fun to chat then meeting them in person, but you can try and see I dont want to generalize all the gurls. Some of them making gud money. One of my top hosts makes 60 k pesos a month in chats, plus what guys sending her, so she is getting something like 100 000 p a month..tax free :D

Happy hunting!!!

Blink

Silly Fool

06-17-07, 12:54

Nearly got scammed by a so-called REAL chica by the name of Joy Miranda.
Went from good, virginal girl to sex mad , passport hungry raver in three or four emails. They dont take long to get down to business. FYI her pics looked stunning but i did think it was strange to get an email out of the blue from her.i forgot this is how ThaiLove Links and a few others operate. You have to pay the website a fee to reply to this woman who is supposedly interested in you. thats how they make their money without having to even remove their panties. My thanks to Freeman for his expert advice-theirs a real brotherhood happenig on this website.

Goingnow

06-18-07, 20:29

Is there anyone who surfs? If so, what spots would you recommend for surfing with some access to women?

FireWalker

06-19-07, 12:16

Not sure.

Last girl I met online was a college grad engineer earning about $400 a month in Cebu. A cherry girl. She never seemed to need money and never asked in 2 years. She was a thrifty little cutie. When she hit 25 the desire to mary was too strong so we went our separate ways. Nice GF experience which I hope to be lucky enough to repeat

Yes, there are are a few girls like that, but most of the sites are dominated now by scammers. It just isn't worth the time and energy to screen them out to find a nugget.

$400 a month is enough to support a couple families. That girl was making good money by Philippines standards.

It is easier to meet girls there, but there are so many guys sitting in their mothers basements sending these chicks money to flash there tits. The internet just isn't worth the time it entails anymore.

FireWalker

06-19-07, 12:19

I'm not saying all of these girls are available. But with a little effort, who knows.

There are tons of girls of this type all over the Phils. The only effort that means anything is going there.

Starchild2012

06-19-07, 20:16

there are so many guys sitting in their mothers basements sending these chicks money to flash there tits. The internet just isn't worth the time it entails anymore.

HAHAHA...You the man..buddy..this is soo true :)..when i was unemployed and had no means for pleasure i used to do that, in my parents home, desperatly..praying and kneeling to them to just show a piece of divinity..

I was soo damm there and felt the frustation and desperation of it all..no wonder guys would send ..50 , 100 dollars ..just to feel ..little relaxed and dream it all....i owe to them a great deal..even though i did not had the money to send..yet..compare to other women on chat room..they were VERY generous and showed...i tired hard to send them money to keep the divinity of seconds going..but even 100 USD in India is damm months salery...

I have come out of that hell of frusatation now..BUT i give everything to filipina women are the BEST...they get lot of flake..cos they are the only ones there, and even bother to chat with you..OTHER"S WILL NOT EVEN LOOK AT YOU WHEN YOU ARE DOWN....tell me how many american, european, south asians, indian, african, south american women were there with you, in times of your bad days.. NONE..

In terms of money versus giving..Filipina women would give more than your bucks worth every damm day for rest of your life.

And if you take the poor-girl quotient out, they are big hearted people and even with your money that you send..they won't use it to Hijack a plane or plant a bomb.but will spend on foods, clothes and loans..thats it.. they have a simple and normal living..

In Yahoo chat i did not find any scam women, even if they knew im from a third world country, unemployed, living with my parents..they still talked with me and were very friendly..its only 50 percent of the women who asks money..but if u tell them, your condition is same as them..they be will still be friend with me...to prove the point..over a period of two years..i have around 350 contacts of women in cebu alone from chat room in excel file :)..i had kept it keeping my hope alive that one day, i would come out of it and finally be there..

If you are getting the responses in the chat room in few hours of surfing...you could imagine..it will be 7th heaven when you reach cebu :D

Good luck guys..If your condition was like me..keep your heart..you will reach PH one day..lot of filipina women will be on your side in your bad times and when you reach here..you can say thank you..

If you have some means..and you know the girl is genuine..why not send the money or better go to PH and meet her..think about the good karma and the blessing you get in helping a women..who helped you in your frustating times.

Good Luck.

FireWalker

06-20-07, 01:40

The big problem is that you guys sending them money ruins the market for the guys going there.

It doesn't take that much to go there, just sacrifice some of the shit in your life. I was there 9 weeks last year. I only make 40-50K working about 30 hours a week. I don't own a car because it is a money sinkhole. I don't own expensive clothes because the only benefit derived is impressing other people.
Let go of materialism and it can give you greater freedom. When you die you can be proud of the car payments you made and Nike shoes you wore. I'll be proud of the hash I smoked after horseback riding in the Kashmir Himalyas.

You are right about Cebu girls. Awesome.

Amadeuss

06-20-07, 08:21

I'm sure Botak's rules work for Botak, but I would never do any of the things he mentions. The only one that makes sense to me is the first one, but I make that clear only if they are moving too quickly.

"I don't want to meet your family or friends"? Who would want to meet a person who said that? I wouldn't.

X Man

X-man, perhaps I should have explained it a bit more:

Once you tell the girl to pick you up at the airport (what most of them like to do..) they will show up with a clan: be it mom, sis, uncle, auntie...and then you have to spend up first before that leeches leave you alone - finally - with your honeyko. As it happened to me several times, I now have a different way: check in to the hotel and then text her with a Philipine cell number (buy Smart, Globe..for a week its cheap). Most of them will hurry to you. Some will bring a friend along..be it.

If I can not bed her at the second meet, I make a move. But in case you are really serious with the girl, why not inviting her parents for a dinner into your hotel? Still cheaper and much more impressive then paying for a party at their home.

The difficulties arise in the difference of culture: in the Phillippines you marry the whole clan and merge into their family. In our culture you start a new family and leave the clan behind. Some guys may like Pinoy style having a big clan attached to the honeyko...I don't! But I like the girls.....Cathy is waiting :-)

FireWalker

06-20-07, 22:42

Is there anyone who surfs? If so, what spots would you recommend for surfing with some access to women?

If a girl has a lot of time for internet, you are not only guy she is talking to. She may not be a scammer, but she certainly knows a few. She will pick up things from them. So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies. If you pick up girls there it is much easier in long run and less expensive. I have found bargirls with much more character than regular girls that "work" the internet.

Blink157

06-21-07, 05:08

Hi,
gurls are working on the internet for the money, instead of workin hard in the bar. They think they smarter and better then bargurls, they collect guys and they just f..k one guy in a month when he is in town.

The other chat gurls are from bars, most of them are ugly, no barfine and think they can make also money there and then number 3 are gurls who have sugar daddy and lookin for more money...

I just found out ,one of my gurl likes gurls also (same like me LOL), poor guys who send her money, she dont care bout them :D

Happy hunting!!!

Buko Max

06-26-07, 19:18

So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies.
Hello FW,

In my experiences, my regular chatmates don't ask for much. Of course I usually bring them some gifts and such. They are too shy to ask for money and many think it is improper. When I'm in town, they always ask if I'm going to meet up with someone else and I always tell then the truth: "Yes of course I will be meeting some of my other chatmates". Knowing that fact usually brings out the best in them and spurs competition. Anyway, here is a joke that a new chatmate sent to me, you can tell what is on her mind!

Buko Max

06-26-07, 19:38

So called "regular girls" are more expensive than bargirls. Lining up girls before you go means you have to cover a lot of lies.
Hello FW,

In my experiences, my regular chatmates don't ask for much. Of course I usually bring them some gifts and such. They are too shy to ask for money and many think it is improper. When I'm in town, they always ask if I'm going to meet up with someone else and I always tell then the truth: "Yes of course I will be meeting some of my other chatmates." Knowing that fact usually brings out the best in them and spurs competition. Anyway, here is a joke that a new chatmate sent to me, you can tell what is on her mind!

Two old ladies are outside their nursing home, having a drink and a smoke, when it starts to rain. One of the old ladies pulls out a condom, cuts off the end, puts it over her cigarette, and continues smoking. Maude: What in the hell is that? Mabel: A condom. This way my cigarette does not get wet. Maude: Where did you get it? Mabel: You can get them at any drugstore. The next day, Maude hobbles herself into the local drugstore and announces to the pharmacist that she wants a box of condoms. The pharmacist, obviously embarrassed, looks at her kind of strangely (she is after all, over 80 years of age), but very delicately asks what brand of condom she prefers. "Dosen't matter Sonny, as long as it fits on a Camel." The pharmacist fainted.

DanTheMan

06-29-07, 02:21

I started chatting with a filo girl yesterday through a dating website. She started talking all sexy and when we got to the cam, in Yahoo Messenger, she said to me if I send her US$100 she'll do a hot sexy show fr me, (fingering, etc). The $100 was for a "private room" at the internet cafe. She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.

Buko Max

06-29-07, 02:47

She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.
It's good you didn't take the bait because you can get the same kind of show for $1.99 USD per minute, if you are into that kind of thing. You might consider reporting her to that dating website administrator.

Blink157

06-29-07, 09:44

I started chatting with a filo girl yesterday through a dating website. She started talking all sexy and when we got to the cam, in Yahoo Messenger, she said to me if I send her US$100 she'll do a hot sexy show fr me, (fingering, etc). The $100 was for a "private room" at the internet cafe. She actually showed me her tits, and she was half decent, but sniffing a scam I didnt take up on her offer. She wanted the money sent through Western UNion, and actually had the WU website up whilst i was talking to her.

Hi,
look my report what kind of gurls doin those things, when I view the att foto I would say in ur case its agurl who dont get barfined but thinks all foreigners are so desperate to pay anything LOL..

if you wana scam thse gurls, use xoom, cause u can cancel ur fund there lol and she will looks stupid :D.. I think WU not possible to do that.

happy hunting

Blink

PS I wouldnt even consider to pay 1,99 a min for this gurl..but thats just my taste

DanTheMan

06-29-07, 09:57

neither would I but i'd root hher if i was drunk a nd horny!!

cheers

dan

FireWalker

06-29-07, 10:14

neither would I but i'd root hher if i was drunk a nd horny!!

cheers

dan

From your typing it looks like you are already there!

Cheers to you Dan!

FireWalker

06-29-07, 10:19

Remember, you ruin the market for fucking when you give money to these sites.

For me, It does nothing for me seeing a naked babe if she is not right in front of me and there is nothing to prevent me from taking things into my own hands.

X Man

07-06-07, 14:18

Check out CB: Member Id: C00254836

I had to laugh at her profile. Says she's "honest".

I chatted with her, but she had no phone. I arranged to meet her at Greenbelt. She never showed. I had no way to call her.

When I emailed her, the response was, "I forgot".

Later, she changed her answer to "We made that arrangement over a month ago, of course I forgot". Actually, it had been four days earlier.

Then she said, "Well, you didn't contact me so I thought you didn't want to meet."

I find out later she's dissing me to at least one other ladies. This is one top notch loser.

X Man

Huis Wijn

07-16-07, 19:20

There is a free site to make contact with girls / women all over the world.

Many members from Philippines.. Thailand.. All ages etc.

URL:www.dateinasia.com

Enjoy!

Lookin

07-28-07, 06:28

I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.

Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.

Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

FireWalker

07-28-07, 14:11

I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.

Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.

Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

You need to go to Angeles City and get some experience first. You sound a little naive. These girls will eat you alive if you go visit them. They are getting money from guys or they wouldn't be on internet. How do you think they pay for it? Most of these girls don't have jobs and if they do, an hour of iinternet is 10% of what they make in a day. Do not send them money.

You should go to Angeles City, it is less expensive than these cam girls will be, trust me. You will get more attention than you ever dreamed there.
Quit saying "someday" and go, it is really affordable.

Blink157

07-28-07, 23:55

I am very new at the ISG. Can't even remember how I found it, but it has consumed many hours of my reading time in the past month. I may never get to all of it. The following info is more than likely all old hat to veterans here but for the real new members it may be of interest. My info is based on my experience as a short time member at asianeuro and mycams.

Anyway, I started with mycams.com and I met a Philipine lady in pvt and ended up with her yahoo address and spent much time chatting. I thought we were buds, even though I am past 60, she is 25 but oh so accepting and I relished our chats. Could not imagine getting that acceptance here in the USA A. One day she asked for permission to use my chat name and pass word in Mycams. Of course I did not give it. That was the day of my awakening with her, though I harbor no I'll will or anger toward her. It is just there way of ekeing out a meager living on a day to day. But still loving the young Asian lady's I recently joined asianeuro.com. Posted bio with pic and I was getting hits from Philipine girls as soon as I logged on. By the dozens. They were anywhere from 18 to 55 but mostly in there 20's. I thought I had found Heaven on earth, lots of IT & Nursing students and yes single moms. I have never had that kind of attention from hot young lady's in my entire life. Most get down to business right away. Within a very short time, they ask "are you here to find a life partner/marriage? " I have found that my answer to that one is of critical importance, lest I be dropped like a hot potato. It appears many of these lady's want the commitment from men, and especially any man other than Philipino. I guess those that I have met chatting, just want out. Some or most have no job and spend what little money they have trying to meet there ticket out of P. I. By renting time in internet cafes. I have also been bluntly approached about sending money because the washer is broken and that is how I earn money for my little girl and several other sad story's. I believe many of these storys are true but so hard to think I can really solve these problems for them. Yes I did send a few dollars via regular mail to the first love I met on Mycams. I figured I have donated to the Red Cross and other needy organizations, at least this money will go to somebody I am sure needs it as much as anybody. According to the USA Postal Reg's the Philipine govt. Considers it illegal to send currency via the mail but I hoped it was a small risk and it wasn't much (by our standards) anyway. I don't think the card, with enclosed cash, ever arrived at the address the young lady provided.

Anyway I still love the lovely young Asian lady's and the attention they give me, so I will be back at the meeting site for a few more hours today. Just maybe I will actually visit the P. I. Someday and will then have a few to enjoy a visit with. If I learn the game much better.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

hi,
excellent post. However some thing you should know.

I assume you should fly to PI to find out for urself how things run there. Enough posts in ISG. Members will help you with specific info if you do some homework before you ask here.

I have a little backfround info on chatsites, so if any special gurl you liek to have info, just PM me and I see if I can help.

In general you should know that those gurls work for a living, they either married, have chidlren ,work in bar before or have pinoy boyfriends. Or the worst thing is, they ex bargurls with pinoy boyfriends and a big greedy family,
Maybe you find a diamond in a rough, but be prepared for the worst scenario like I describe it here. They excellent to be ur online gf, givin you agud time, but in real its much different. Once you there and met up and know how it works, you will ask yourself why the hell I paid so much money, instead getting the real thing. So if you continue this, it can end only in one thing , financial support. if thats your thing, you free to do so.

Those gurls are not much educated, but they are "streetsmart" and they have allways somebody who show them the ropes. Believe me, like FW says before. If they smell your a rookie to this, they eat you alive.

if you really like to marry a girl you have to meet her first and get to know her family in person. If they are poor like rats and sh ehave a big family, prepare to pay all for them. Remember its more easy for them to ask you for money then to work.

You say your 60, so maybe you want to settle down. So why bring the gurl to the USA???Did you consider to move to Phils??Many info here and belive me many guys older ur age really enjoy here, they have filipina gf and/or wifes and expereince their secound honeymoon. Guys here will help you out with info.

Back to chatsites. if you allready close to some sweeties there, or you allready addicted to some, ask them those questions first and select, before you meet them up.
Where you from? what province?How big is ur family?what did you do before you start working here?what does ur parents do for a living?Kids?

if she is from pampanga just forget her, specialy from AC, no need to continue, you can meet her up but be sure she wants only money and support. They spoiled, cause they have to many foreigners there..you see once you there. I dont say you cant meet them or screw them, but be prepared to pay more for them as for others.

So, I hope I could get some more light into this topic. any comments or questions PM me or post here..

have to get my things packed Im flying next week back to Phils and see how things work out for me this time. Got many gurls on my "to do list" LOL

last not least. YOu need to find a gurl who likes you, realy likes you, to find out this, you ned to meet her up and see :D

Happy hunting!!

Blink

GoodEnough

07-29-07, 19:52

Nice post Lookin' and very honest. I would join the others who have encouraged you to come over here and have a look at the reality on the ground, rather than the willing suspension of disbelief that is the virtual kingdom. I'm not putting you down at all, just adding my words of caution to what others have said. This is an extremely poor country, and some young, pretty women have made separating men from their money, using the web, into an art form and, by local standards, a pretty lucrative career.

Here in Davao, where I live, it's not at all unusual to find ladies in the Internet Cafes chatting with four to five boyfriends or fiancees simultaneously. One girl explained to me her belief that most of the guys would never come over here, and so, by chatting to, and getting involved with several men at the same time, she was multiplying her odds that one of these guys would eventually actually come here, perhaps fall in love with her, and take her the hell out of here. If you think about it, this is not a bad business model.

This is not to imply that all the women on these sites are scam artistes. They are not and there a lots and lots of sincere, honest women here who are desperate to find a foreigner. The age difference is not, for most women, a factor. They seem to be more interested in finding someone who will treat them kindly (which leaves out most local men) and with the wherewithal to provide a better life than the one they're living.

Think about taking two or three weeks to visit the country and, if possible, make plans to visit two or three different cities and different islands. You'll find many of the expats here (including myself) willing to introduce you to "normal" women who have requested introductions to westerners. It is not a place where meeting women is difficult.

Lots of luck.

GE

Lookin

07-29-07, 23:48

FW, Blink and GE for your comments and advice about my brief experience with the Asian ladys on-line. Very kind of you to take the time and I have read them thoroughly. I live in the East and the farthest west I have been is
California. The more I read here and the more I hear from a few of the ladys at asianeuro there is a trip further West in my future.

Thanks again.

Lookin

Hobby Knob

07-30-07, 03:03

I too was a bit naive and believed a girl on ABC loved me a few years back. I had a trip set up to meet her. I then tried logging on with a different name and with a different ip address (they see those you know) and she used the same lines on my "new" personality as well. I think she even liked the "new guy" better than my original self.

Anyway, I went ahead with my trip, but I didnt see her. I'm so glad I didn't get locked down with just one girl. You will feel like a rock star over there. Just treat them nice.

oh, BTW, on a subsequent trip I txt her I was there and we met. In person all she had were sad stories and wanted money from me. I prolly could have done her, but was not interested.

just go, have fun and you may not want to go home! (Those cam girls are a money drain) avoid them unless you really don't mind spending the money without "real" return. I do understand why guys do it, but they should just take the plunge and go in person.

X Man

07-30-07, 17:10

Yes, I noticed the same thing about girls hedging their bets (as GE mentions below). And we should be doing the same thing! I've got so many phone numbers and email addresses that it's a logistical nightmare just trying to keep things organized. I don't blame them for doing the same thing. Before going to a location I make a message and then send it to my prime prospects - sometimes as many as 15 people. (*** see note below)

I always add my name and additional info so that they might somehow remember me. What irritates me is that some of them reply something like "hu u" and of course don't add their own name. If you ask them the same question they act insulted. "you txted me, why you ask" The problem is matching the replies with my list of names. On my last visit that included AC, MLA, Cebu and Davao, so sometimes I get a text and I have no idea who or where it's coming from.

Another problem I had. I text a girl. She texts back and says, "why you text me....you called me yesterday". Now I assume I called and talked to her so now I'm racking my brain to remember which one it was. Later it turns out I called and there was no response. So again, I don't know who it is.

I use Globe - what does it mean when you call and get only beeps? Is the phone just turned off?
Other times I call and get a message "...unattended or out of service".

*** I was a subscriber to Cherry Bl until March. So, in the course of four months I found that some of the phone numbers no longer worked. In a couple cases I then got online and sent an email, but the reply often arrived too late since I don't go online that often when I'm traveling. I missed a few very good prospects because of that, including one that said, "I have a car and could have taken you around..." Next time I will try to email /chat with prospects in advance to confirm phone numbers.

X man

Here in Davao, where I live, it's not at all unusual to find ladies in the Internet Cafes chatting with four to five boyfriends or fiancees simultaneously. One girl explained to me her belief that most of the guys would never come over here, and so, by chatting to, and getting involved with several men at the same time, she was multiplying her odds that one of these guys would eventually actually come here, perhaps fall in love with her, and take her the hell out of here. If you think about it, this is not a bad business model.

GE

Frequent Flier

07-30-07, 18:15

Of course we also have to look out for the ones using fake pics.
Check this girl out from CB#C00608752
Pictures attached here as well.

When I sent her a message and accused her of using fake pics here is what she replied with.

"Hey,
are you accusing me of using fake pictures...back off man...if you find me fake..that is not my problem...mover over.and wish you the best in luck! "

Doesn't even sound like a Filipina type of response. Well I told her I wasn't accusing her, that I knew they were fake. Of course no more messages from her.
She will ask for money or break some other rule soon enough and be kicked off the site.

To make sure you do not have a problem with fake girls or girls trying to fool you I suggest you tell them you have been to the Philippines many times before.
If you have never been to the Philippines you can gain enough information from this site to tell them you were in Makati and stayed at this hotel or that one. By doing this you are more likely to not get responses from the scam girls as they figure you know the deal. I actually state in my profile that I am tired of girls on CB with fake pics and trying to cheat guys. That cuts down alot as well. Personally I have never been scammed, but thought it would be practical to use it and I believe that it has helped weed out the fakes.

I have been there many times so I do know the deal. Helps alot when dealing on line setting up future meetings or if you are trying to meet a future mate.

FF

Amavida

07-30-07, 21:07

To be fair there a lot of ladies who say in their profiles "No playboy's" "No games" etc etc. It cut's both way's guy's.

I kinda admire the tenacity & drive of many of these young women to find someone - anyone - to get them the hell out'ta [insert county here] ...

I personally knew a couple of cousins of my wife who very computer illiterate & inexperienced, their bakla male cousin used to go online with their profiles & type lovey dovey messages to prospects in the hope of snagging a fish.

In return for 'helping' the girls he got his cheap jollies & a chance to ask a kickback if the girl scored, hehe. What a hoot. :)

Of course there are hard core scammers out there also.

Amavida

Spider916

07-31-07, 02:31

Guys,

I contacted a girl with a cute profile on a regular dating site. Turns out she's a camgirl.

Below you will find our conversation on a normal messenger program. I realy admire her tenacity and the part of she being from Canada. LOL

strato52: hello
Angel love Alonzo: hi
strato52: where are you from?
Angel love Alonzo: Canada babe...
Angel love Alonzo: 21 F Canada.. Angel
strato52: realy? i thought Philippines
Angel love Alonzo: yes babe...
Angel love Alonzo: but now im here in canada
strato52: lucky you
Angel love Alonzo: why babe?
Angel love Alonzo: lucky in what?
strato52: Beacuse it's nice? Well I will be in Manila next week
strato52: but in winter it's very cold I go skying to Canada every year
Angel love Alonzo: hahaha
Angel love Alonzo: cool
Angel love Alonzo: i like skying too
Angel love Alonzo: hope we cant get it on...
strato52: sure, would love to
Angel love Alonzo: hehehe
Angel love Alonzo: your cute huh
strato52: sure. all the girls like me
strato52: what about you?
Angel love Alonzo: well well
strato52: do you have a cam?
Angel love Alonzo: yup babe..
Angel love Alonzo: babe...
Angel love Alonzo: i want to be honest im a camgirl babe..
Angel love Alonzo: do you hate camgirls like me?
strato52: I guessed so
strato52: no,
strato52: I actualy think you girls are pretty clever
Angel love Alonzo: cool so you can see me now if you like babe...
Angel love Alonzo: i will give you my alternative link to see me in my site and my promocode so you can get in for free
strato52: hmm, why not?
strato52: so where are you? Phils?
Angel love Alonzo: im in makati city babe..
strato52: cool I am in city garden hotel honey. wanna meet?
Angel love Alonzo: lol
Angel love Alonzo: haha
Angel love Alonzo: yeah
strato52: ok
strato52: what's your phone?
Angel love Alonzo: cellphone? or landline?
strato52: cell
strato52: we can also have a drink at bronx first if u like
Angel love Alonzo: yes cool
Angel love Alonzo: ok i will give you my cell if you can sign sign up my link twice...
Angel love Alonzo: lol
Angel love Alonzo: deal?
strato52: Baby, I have a better deal
strato52: when we meet i give you a gift, so that you don't have 2 share the money with the owners of the studio and all the other guys that make money of you
Angel love Alonzo: what what?
strato52: deal sweetie?
strato52: I did that already with some of your collegues
strato52: they were happy
Angel love Alonzo: aww damn.......
Angel love Alonzo: did you canceled it?
strato52: never signed up. the other girls didn't wanna share the money with the owners LOL clever girls
Angel love Alonzo: what?
Angel love Alonzo: tell me babe...
Angel love Alonzo: did you signed up to them?
strato52: no, just chatted on yahoo, called them, had some party barhoppoing and paid them
strato52: you can have the same deal. I am generous. If not, I won't be angry, plenty of clever cute girls around in Makati
Angel love Alonzo: ok...
strato52: deal or no deal sweetie?
Angel love Alonzo: deal babe..
Angel love Alonzo: are you ready now?
strato52: always
Angel love Alonzo: great
Angel love Alonzo: LINK to her signup page
Angel love Alonzo: there is my link babe..
Angel love Alonzo: listen babe...
Angel love Alonzo: just fill up only the first page ok...
strato52: Baby, I won't sign up to anything where I need to use a credit card.
Angel love Alonzo: awww
Angel love Alonzo: you said its deal...
Angel love Alonzo:
strato52: no, my deal. Phone number and money that you don't have to share when we meet in Bronx or LA Cafe or whereever u like
Angel love Alonzo:
strato52: ok?
Angel love Alonzo: ok what babe?
strato52: My deal
Angel love Alonzo: LINK to her signup page
Angel love Alonzo: babe..
strato52: Forget it honey. I will NOT sign up. I wish you lots of success with your business. There is a sucker born everyday, I am just not one of them. if you change your mind, you can send me your cell. Otherwise, take good care Sweetie
Angel love Alonzo: babe...
Angel love Alonzo: just give me a vote in my site babe
strato52: sure give me any credit card number i can use
strato52: beacause I will never use mine
Angel love Alonzo: sorry babe i dont have
Angel love Alonzo: why you dont like yours babe
Angel love Alonzo: whats wrong?
strato52: no way I use it there
Angel love Alonzo: your IP address is recorded babe for security reason so you will not get fraud so its really safe and secured babe..
strato52: babe, stop asking. I won't just do it.
Angel love Alonzo: so what are you worry babe..
strato52: It's either my deal or no deal at all
strato52: your call honey
Angel love Alonzo: ok no deal at all
Angel love Alonzo: bye...
strato52: good luck

Spider916

07-31-07, 04:38

Here is another chat from a girl from a regular site. Short and to the point. LOL.

Just a hint guys, if any Philippina is calling you Babe or Honey in the first chats then she wants something more from you than just your love...

strato52: hello
glimmering nina: hi
glimmering nina: how are u?
strato52: I am good and you?
glimmering nina: not good
strato52: what happened?
glimmering nina: i dont have a money to pay my eletric bill bebe
strato52: that sounds hard
glimmering nina: yeah bebe
glimmering nina: can u help me bebe
strato52: maybe next week when we meet
glimmering nina: ahh i see
glimmering nina: but how can we communicate with out my computer bebe
strato52: just give me your cell
glimmering nina: how can we meet with out my computer bebe
glimmering nina: i dont have a cell phone bebe
strato52: Realy? you must be the first Philipina I met that doesn't
glimmering nina: ohh really?
strato52: right
strato52: so just give me the landline
glimmering nina: if ill give you my landline u will send me money for my eletric bill bebe?
strato52: no honey
glimmering nina: ahh i think u cant help me
strato52: I can. Meet me in LA café on monday
glimmering nina: where is that?
strato52: Makati
glimmering nina: kk
strato52: Why don't you give the cell of a friend?
strato52: ok, good luck for you then
strato52: There is a sucker born everyday, but I am not one of them.

Blink157

07-31-07, 13:29

why waste time with those gurls when you in PI....they wont meet you up. they workin on camsites, they focus on their job, you can tell them what you want, even you offer them 1 K US$ they wont accept LOL
if you want gurls from there, chat them up from ur own country

I got a nice link for you LOL (hope jackson wont delete it its not my website LOL or any other forum)

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/beggars/

Hope you not find ur name there :D

Anyway, if you wana met them up, chat them before, make sure u get their ym id or/and cp numbers. Sometimes you can score, sometimes not, depdn on ur looks and what you tell them. Dont tell them you do that with other gurls before. You tell them you just comin for them.

When Im in PI (this week :D), my ym status is on SMS when Im offline so I get all the offflines from my contacts and chat with them any time of the day and if Im not busy I meet up and check things out.

Remember, they can wait to meet you, dont wait for them. Time is money if you there only for a limited time.

happy hunting all

Blink

X Man

07-31-07, 20:52

Well I've said this before, but I recommend you DO NOT tell them that you realize they are trying to scam you. If they get caught out then they'll refine their technique and try again. (well, the smarter ones will).

Let them waste their time. Once you realize they are on the make, just tell them you have to go -- end of chat.

The person with the model pictures is a good example. The pictures look too good to be true, and now you've let him/her know that they are obvious. Now, a smart scammer will go over to FilipinaHeart, find some really cute pictures of a real woman and put them on the fake site.

I suppose Strato enjoys playing cat and mouse, but I still think it's best to avoid letting them know you know!

Nevertheless Strato, thanks for sharing.

X Man

Here is another chat from a girl from a regular site. Short and to the point. LOL.

Just a hint guys, if any Philippina is calling you Babe or Honey in the first chats then she wants something more from you than just your love...

SNIP

strato52: Why don't you give the cell of a friend?
strato52: ok, good luck for you then
strato52: There is a sucker born everyday, but I am not one of them.

Frequent Flier

07-31-07, 22:21

Well I've said this before, but I recommend you DO NOT tell them that you realize they are trying to scam you. If they get caught out then they'll refine their technique and try again. (well, the smarter ones will).

Let them waste their time. Once you realize they are on the make, just tell them you have to go -- end of chat.

The person with the model pictures is a good example. The pictures look too good to be true, and now you've let him/her know that they are obvious. Now, a smart scammer will go over to FilipinaHeart, find some really cute pictures of a real woman and put them on the fake site.

I suppose Strato enjoys playing cat and mouse, but I still think it's best to avoid letting them know you know!

Nevertheless Strato, thanks for sharing.

X Man

I'm not sure if you meant to imply that Filipina Heart does not have scammer, actually I'm sure you didn't, but that is how it reads. Obviously the same things are happening on FH.
The pictures I posted are without a doubt scanned pictures. Which means they most likely came from a magazine. Which is why I posted them. I know some regular girls scan pictures, but not from paper like a magazine. It is very easy to tell the difference if you just look for a minute or two.

My point is if you use the Internet date sites for either hook ups, dates or to really find a lady to marry, it is best to state in your profile that you know the ways of the Philippines. That you have been to the Philippines, even if you have not. You can tell a real girl you meet later the truth, she will understand. This way the scammers just leave you alone.
I found that when I did this on my profile the number of hits I was getting dropped dramatically. Could be a coincidence..who knows

Robbaf

08-01-07, 05:15

I found that when I did this on my profile the number of hits I was getting dropped dramatically. Could be a coincidence..who knows

I joined Date In Asia last week, thanks to Huis Wijn, and I state that I am in the Philippines and what I am looking for (long-term relationship wink wink) and I still got 300 messages. About 1 in 5 is a scammer, asking for money or wants to meet ASAP. I can come to your hotel right now! I ask if they want to have sex, thet say no just be my GF. I have to laugh at them and I tell them, WOW, that is way too fast to establish a lasting relationship.

I met one 28 year old from Leyte and she wanted to meet me in Manila (me buy ticket) after two messages and I told her no thanks because we just met and if it don't work out, we are stuck together three days. Her profile states god-fearing man, not looking for sex. I asked her where she would stay and she replied "with you..hehehe". She was gone faster then you can say barfine!

I love the Philippines. But I am sad, only 9 months left here and I have to return back to US.