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If you thought Manhunt 2 had reached the pinnacle of mature content in video games, you better guess again. The controversy-garnering title will be re-released on Direct2Drive next week for $29.99 -- only this time around, it's packing an AO rating. As those who lived through Mahuntgate surely remember, that was planned to be the original rating for the game, before the ESRB rolled up, and was all like "what? You want to stick shards of glass into another man's ear? No. No, sir."

Rockstar has remained mum about what the new rating will entail, but our guess is that it will incorporate more graphic forms of violence, and perhaps a few extra dirty words. We've contacted Rockstar to get more specific details on the mature-r content, and to find out when we can expect the Early Childhood version of the game to hit store shelves.

[Via Big Download]
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adults-onlyaodirect2drivedownloadmanhunt-2manhunt2ratingrockstarSat, 31 Oct 2009 13:30:00 -040011|19217683https://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/03/manhunt-2s-extra-scary-extra-late-uk-date/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/03/manhunt-2s-extra-scary-extra-late-uk-date/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/03/manhunt-2s-extra-scary-extra-late-uk-date/#commentsRockstar has taken a long-form approach to scaring people with Manhunt 2. They've waited very quietly, very still, until everyone in the UK forgot that it was there, and then they JUMPED OUT AND ANNOUNCED A RELEASE DATE! "BOO! Manhunt 2 is coming out on October 31!"

This version of Manhunt 2 is different from the one the US got, having been "heavily reworked" (as IGN describes it) in a desperate bid for BBFC approval. They got the right to release the game in December, but by then Halloween had already passed, and what's the point of releasing a horror game on any other date?

Remember all thecontroversy over Manhunt 2? Now it might be time to see what all the fuss was about, as Amazon has it marked down to $19.99 (for today only). Most people who've played the game would probably agree that it's not worth a purchase at full price, but at half its cost you might be a little bit tempted -- if you're a crazy homicidal murderer, that is, or wish to become one. After all, those are the only kind of people who play Manhunt 2, right?

Also, we think it's a bit of a strange choice for Amazon to offer as a deal. We wonder if they'll be getting an angry letter from Jack Thompson any time soon.

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amazondealdeal-of-the-daymanhunt-2manhunt2rockstarThu, 15 May 2008 16:00:00 -040011|1196120https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/28/dr-tanya-byron-explains-her-report-findings-stance-on-games/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/28/dr-tanya-byron-explains-her-report-findings-stance-on-games/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/28/dr-tanya-byron-explains-her-report-findings-stance-on-games/#commentsFollowing her report (which follows all of the Manhunt 2 ruckus), UK psychologist Dr. Tanya Byron sat down to discuss some things with Next-Gen. While we don't know much about her, what with us living across the pond and all, she does come off as kind of grounded and level-headed about all of this.

It seems that she's very much for adult content in games, just that the adult content in question should only be accessible by, you know, adults. "There's a huge moral debate around content in videogames," she says, "I'm very clear, that wasn't the remit of my review to pass judgment on that and I do believe that content for adults is content for adults. It should be rated that way."

She goes on further to add: "I can understand that gamers fear that there will be a 'you can't play these games anymore.' I've not said that, I'd never say that, and certainly if I heard people beginning to use my review to try and imply that I will be very quick to say that that was not and will not be a recommendation of mine."

While we're not resident of the UK, we're incredibly interested in where this is all going. Ratings improvements can be made worldwide, we're sure, and we'd like to see a world where it doesn't take an incredibly-long time to release a game because a bunch of uninformed people are too busy arguing about how it's going to train your kid to kill.
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bbfcbyronmanhunt2pegiratingsukFri, 28 Mar 2008 13:30:00 -040011|1151658https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/27/byron-calls-for-more-bbfc-action-ratings-system-overhaul/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/27/byron-calls-for-more-bbfc-action-ratings-system-overhaul/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/27/byron-calls-for-more-bbfc-action-ratings-system-overhaul/#commentsAs you all probably know, following the whole Manhunt 2 thing, noted psychologist in the country Dr. Tanya Byron was knee-deep in an investigation into the effects of games and internet media on children in the UK. Her verdict? The BBFC should have a bigger role in rating games (right now, they only intervene on games flagged with violent, sexual and criminal content).

Her solution involves a new 12+ classification, as well as the BBFC handling just about all duties involving rating games. But, as anticipated, she's also endorsed the PEGI system, as well. She hopes that the PEGI ratings can go on the back of the game's box, with the BBFC classification being displayed on the front.

This is all just the tip of the iceberg, however. Her report has lots more interesting information, so for the rest, head on over to Game Politics.

[Via Joystiq]
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bbfcbyronmanhunt2pegirockstarukThu, 27 Mar 2008 12:00:00 -040011|1150606https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/british-mp-continues-fight-against-manhunt-2/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/british-mp-continues-fight-against-manhunt-2/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/british-mp-continues-fight-against-manhunt-2/#commentsYou'd think the BBFC's official unbanning of an edited version of Manhunt 2 would officially end the battle over the game's release. You'd be wrong though, as Kent Online reports that Kent MP Julian Brazier is working to introduce a "public appeals process" to overturn BBFC decisions, like the one that paved the way for Manhunt 2's release.

Brazier's Private Members Bill to reform the BBFC was discussed and eventually stopped in Parliament late last month, but that hasn't stopped Brazier from trying to revive its political chances. Brazier insists that the eventual decision to release Manhunt 2 "shows once again that the BBFC and its appeals system do not meet the concerns of the public" and that "the public wants a significant tightening up in this vital area." Earlier this month, Brazier accompanied Gordon Brown in a meeting with Giselle Pakeerah, a mother who believes the original Manhunt contributed to her son's murder.
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actionbbfcbritainbritishcontroversyculturekentlawlegalmanhunt 2manhunt2mpnintendo wiiparliamentps2rockstarsony playstation 2wiiThu, 20 Mar 2008 22:00:00 -040011|1145045https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/many-call-for-bbfc-to-step-aside-from-games-following-manhunt-2/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/many-call-for-bbfc-to-step-aside-from-games-following-manhunt-2/https://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/20/many-call-for-bbfc-to-step-aside-from-games-following-manhunt-2/#comments

Many folks think the ratings board should discontinue its work with video games, as they voice concerns over the decision to allow Manhunt 2 to be sold in the country. They feel the games classification process in the UK has some major issues. Many are even expecting the report of Dr. Tanya Byron, one of the country's most popular psychologists, to support a different ratings institution when she releases it later this month.

Darren Waters, editor of BBC News' technology index, rips apart the BBFC, stating "The grudging nature of the BBFC's statement, that it now has "no alternative" but to grant the title a certificate, coupled with the fact the body went to the High Court, twice rejected the game itself and tried to overturn the original judgment of the VAC leaves the organization with its credibility bruised."

Others have come through to voice their concerns, as well. General consensus seems to be that the new classification system will fall squarely on the shoulders of PEGI (Pan European Game Information), another games classification system that is completely voluntary on the part of the game developers.

Well, for those of you in the UK who wanted to enjoy the murder sim latest game from Rockstar, your time will come. Even with all of the fussabout the gamegoing down in the UK, the BBFC's decision to ban the game in the country has somehow been overturned by the VAC (Video Appeals Committee), who have decided to affix an age 18 certificate to the title (meaning you have to be that old to purchase it).

Although we've really heard nothing but bad things about Manhunt 2, surely some of you in the UK are happy to hear about this new state of affairs involving the game? Not like it matters, because thanks to the Freeloader, you could have just imported the game from North America.

The Video Appeals Committee has stood its ground regarding the release of the censored version of Manhunt 2, stating that it depicts no greater violence than any other release in Britain bearing an 18 certificate. The British Board of Film Classifications has finally seen the light, so it seems, and recognizes that the title will indeed land on shelves without further interruption.

No word yet on when Manhunt 2 will finally be released in the UK, or if anyone still cares about last year's controversial game.
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actionbbfcculturemanhuntmanhunt-2manhunt2nintendo wiips2rockstarsony playstation 2wiiFri, 14 Mar 2008 10:40:00 -040011|1140150https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/17/and-the-manhunt-2-saga-continues/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/17/and-the-manhunt-2-saga-continues/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/17/and-the-manhunt-2-saga-continues/#commentsAlthough Rockstar won the appeal to get the controversial Manhunt 2rated in the UK, the battle is far from over. The BBFC is now challenging the verdict by applying for a judicial review of the Video Appeals Committee's decision. The BBFC is adamant about its course of action, stating, "The VAC judgment, if allowed to stand, would have fundamental implications with regard to all the Board's decisions, including those turning upon questions of unacceptable levels of violence." Won't someone think of the children?

The BBFC is also trying to have the VAC's decision suspended, so that the Board doesn't have to rate the game until after the judicial review.

While it seems no one cares about playing Manhunt 2 anymore, the final outcome is certain to have repercussions for rating games (in the UK, at least) in the future.

The British Board of Film Classification is drawing a line in the sand when it comes to Manhunt 2. The BBFC is going to the next level and seeking judicial review after the Video Appeals Committee overturned the BBFC's decision to reject giving Manhunt 2 a classification -- essentially creating a de facto ban.

The BBFC believes that overturning their original decision, which was essentially not to make a rating decision on Manhunt 2, will have "fundamental implications with regard to all the Board's decisions." According to the BBFC statement, the Video Appeals Committee decision undermines its power to judge "unacceptable levels of violence." Manhunt 2 now waits in limbo again as the BBFC attempts to overturn the VAC's decision.
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bbfcbritish-board-film-classificationculturemanhunt2nintendo wiips2sony playstation 2vacwiiMon, 17 Dec 2007 11:00:00 -050011|1064657https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/rockstar-fights-manhunt-2-ban-in-uk-wins-for-now/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/rockstar-fights-manhunt-2-ban-in-uk-wins-for-now/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/rockstar-fights-manhunt-2-ban-in-uk-wins-for-now/#commentsYou may remember that Rockstar appealed the BBFC's decision to refuse to rate Manhunt 2. Well, things seem to be finally going Rockstar's way, for once, as the Video Appeals Committee ruled in favor of the publisher by four votes to three.

So, does this mean that this whole fiasco is over and Manhunt 2 will finally get its 18 rating? Not exactly. The BBFC can still take the case to the High Court in order to try to keep the ban on the game.

Whether you care about Manhunt 2 or not, we've already seen how the decision to ban the title in the UK has affected other games. At least this appeal is a step in the right direction regarding video game censorship.
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appealbbfccensorcensorshipmanhunt-2manhunt2rockstarMon, 10 Dec 2007 16:00:00 -050011|1059149https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/manhunt-2-one-step-closer-to-british-unbanning/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/manhunt-2-one-step-closer-to-british-unbanning/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/10/manhunt-2-one-step-closer-to-british-unbanning/#commentsIn America, it was quite the saga getting Manhunt 2 from AO-rated, system-excluded game an eventual, mediocreM-rated release. In Great Britain, though, the battle to get the game released continues to this day, though it is moving in Rockstar's direction.

GamesIndustry.biz is reporting that Rockstar has won its appeal of the BBFC's decision to refuse the game classification by a four to three vote. The game's not out of the woods yet, though -- the BBFC could still continue to defend it decision through further appeal to the High Court. "We won't make a decision until we've seen the full printed judgement," a BBFC spokesperson told GI.biz.
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actionaobbfccontroversyculturemmanhuntmanhunt-2manhunt2nintendo wiips2ratingsrockstarsony playstation 2violencewiiMon, 10 Dec 2007 15:00:00 -050011|1059358https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/bbfc-no-definitive-connection-between-games-and-violence/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/bbfc-no-definitive-connection-between-games-and-violence/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/27/bbfc-no-definitive-connection-between-games-and-violence/#comments

With all of the appeal going on right now, the BBFC has admitted that there isn't any definitive evidence linking violence and video games together. In accepting that there isn't enough out there to prove a link between the two, they have said that they believe more research is needed to determine if the possibility between the two being related exists. So, it isn't a final determination, by any means.

At yesterday's appeal hearing, BBFC spokesperson Andrew Caldecott stated "The board's position is that there is insufficient evidence to prove, as a fact, there is a causal connection between violent games and behavioural harm." Caldecott goes on further to say "It's a perfectly fair point, and one which we accept, but it's not by any means a complete answer to the question the [Video Appeals Committee] has to decide."

Caldecott further explains that the lack of a definitive link isn't enough to rule out the possibility of one, saying "The research certainly achieves the objective of establishing that research does not demonstrate that there is a causal link. But what it certainly does not establish is that there isn't." No matter how you look at, this is definitely an argument that isn't going to go away for quite some time.
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bbfcesrbmanhunt2rockstarukTue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:00 -050011|1049188https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/26/rockstar-begins-their-british-appeal/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/26/rockstar-begins-their-british-appeal/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/26/rockstar-begins-their-british-appeal/#commentsToday begins the official start of Rockstar's appeal to the BBFC decision to provide Manhunt 2 with no rating, effectively banning the game in the country. GamesIndustry.biz is on-hand to provide the blow-by-blow for us, with Geoffrey Robertson representing Rockstar. Robertson thinks the BBFC is "simply ignorant of the gaming experience." Robertson went on to say that "There's no evidence that playing interactive videogames leads to a propensity to act them out in real life. We wonder why Manhunt 2 has been singled out for special treatment."

The rest of today's proceedings went as one would imagine, with Rockstar pleading their case and the BBFC intently paying attention. We'll bring you more as the story develops.

Official proceedings began today for Rockstar's appeal to the British Board of Film Classification, regarding their refusal to rate the Wii version of Manhunt 2, effectively barring the game from release in the UK. GamesIndustry.biz provides coverage of the appeal. Geoffrey Robertson, representing Rockstar Games, opened the proceedings with his statement, claiming that the BBFC are "ignorant of the gaming experience," and might as well be called "the British Board of Videogame Censors."

Robertston further accused the Video Appeals Committee of having never even played video games, to which one panel member reportedly responded that some of them actually had (to which we say: only some of them?). Robertson argued that the BBFC is more concerned with their own image than anything else.

Rockstar has clearly come out with fists flying for the appeal. It remains to be seen if the aggressive strategy will prove effective in allowing the lackluster Manhunt 2 to find its way to British Wii's.
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bbfcmanhuntmanhunt-2manhunt2nintendo wiipoliticsrockstarukviolencewiiMon, 26 Nov 2007 12:30:00 -050011|1048010https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/21/when-senators-attack-politicians-target-esrb-and-wii/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/21/when-senators-attack-politicians-target-esrb-and-wii/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/21/when-senators-attack-politicians-target-esrb-and-wii/#comments

Some high-profile U.S. Senators, including Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Joe Lieberman (ID-CT), have made attacking the ESRB their new pet project. The cause of this controversy is, of course, Manhunt 2. You may recall that Rockstar was forced to revise the game in order to remove the "Adults Only" rating given to it by the ESRB. These tactics may have worked in the U.S., but the British Board of Film Classification was unimpressed and still refused to issue a rating for the title.

The Senators are pretty ticked off at the ESRB for not being as censor vicious as the BBFC. But the ramifications of the Senators' attack on the ESRB go deeper than Manhunt 2, and may affect the video game industry in general if the ESRB is put under the "thorough review" that they are demanding.

Of course, they don't acknowledge the fact that children shouldn't be playing Manhunt 2 at all, since the game was given a "Mature" rating by the ESRB, and one of the few ways they can even play the game is with parental permission. If children playing mature games is really their concern, perhaps the Senators should be putting parents under review, and not the ESRB. Those old enough to play violent games can differentiate between using waggle and using real weapons, making separate Wii ratings unnecessary.

At times like these, we really yearn for Stephen Colbert to make a political comeback.
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bbfcesrbhillary-clintonjoe-liebermanmanhunt-2manhunt2politicsrockstartake-twowiimoteWed, 21 Nov 2007 12:45:00 -050011|1044799https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/12/what-they-play-keeps-parents-in-the-loop/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/12/what-they-play-keeps-parents-in-the-loop/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/12/what-they-play-keeps-parents-in-the-loop/#comments

When 1UP group mastermind John Davison and executive vice president of the Game Group, Ira Becker, bailed out of Ziff Davis Media in August, it was with the intention of starting up a new family entertainment website geared towards parents. "What They Play" is now accessible via the magnificent power of the internets and, as the succinct name suggests, aims to inform parents what interactive filth their kids are currently rolling their brains in. With an online video game glossary (or "videogame," as they seemingly prefer) and explanation of the ESRB rating system, the site aims to demystify some of the game industry's intricacies and back-of-the-box descriptors to an audience less versed in our M-rated 60fps FPS world.

Most helpful is an objective analysis of a given game's activities, violent content and colorful language, presented in a concise and straightforward manner. You won't find reviews here, only a desire to better equip parents for deciding whether their kids should be playing Zack & Wiki or Manhunt 2.

It's a little late for Halloween, but you can always pick up this promotional Manhunt 2costume on eBay for next year. What's a better costume than "doctor who got some blood on him, and also a video game logo for some reason?" Nothing, that's what. Of course, you can only do that if society doesn't collapse due to the "easily accessible" uncensored violent content in Manhunt 2 turning every child in America into a thoughtless murderer. You'd better hope that all children don't turn into bloodthirsty maniacs, for the sake of Halloween parties.

Wow, that's the second time this week that looking at Manhunt stuff turned our thoughts to the end of society. Maybe there is something to all the protesting.

This bundle of Manhunt 2promo stuff is the perfect gift for the Manhunt 2 fan in your life. Alternatively, it's a reminder that the game existed, in case, say, we enter a 1984-type scenario in which an oppressive government attempts to write the game out of history. Of course, then, having this stuff would probably just get you shot. Then, it's the perfect gift for the person you'd like to be shot by a hypothetical evil government.

The set contains: a T-shirt, a DVD, two fake hospital identification bracelets, a Wiimote strap, a fake hospital memo, a poster, a ubiquitous Rockstar sticker, and a flimsy connection to gaming controversy that we'll take as an invitation to link to this Night Trap video again.

Rumors have been circulating for a while that Target, prompted by the discovery of Manhunt 2's hidden dirty, dirty filthy content on the PSP version of the game, had pulled the title from its shelves. Now, GameSpot has received the official word that, indeed, those hunting (get it?) for a hyper-violent, hyper-mediocre action-stealth game will have to look for a store without red ring decor.

Is this maybe, just maybe, more a move to avoid a media firestorm than an actual concern about keeping young'ns from buying objectionable material at Target? ... We have no idea why you'd think that.
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actionbanningmanhunt2nintendo wiips2pspsony playstation 2sony psptargetwiiWed, 07 Nov 2007 10:59:00 -050011|1032750https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/04/rumor-manhunt-2-being-pulled-from-target-stores/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/04/rumor-manhunt-2-being-pulled-from-target-stores/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/04/rumor-manhunt-2-being-pulled-from-target-stores/#comments

This has yet to be confirmed, but some Target insiders are claiming that the retailer will not be selling copies of Manhunt 2, the controversialRockstar game. The rumor was started by a Target employee at the Evil Avatar forums, and was later supported at GoNintendo by an electronics specialist at the retail chain.

Adding further basis to the rumor, Target's website states that the PSP version of Manhunt 2 is not available in stores, although it can be purchased online. The PS2 and Wii versions are not even listed on the site.

If this rumor turns out to be true, it won't be good news for Rockstar, especially if other retailers follow suit. As of now, though, these rumblings apply to Target stores only.
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actionhorrormanhunt-2manhunt2rockstarstealthtake-twotargetSun, 04 Nov 2007 20:00:00 -050011|1029902https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/esrb-statement-about-manhunt-2-hacks-and-controversy/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/esrb-statement-about-manhunt-2-hacks-and-controversy/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/esrb-statement-about-manhunt-2-hacks-and-controversy/#comments

The ESRB recently held an investigation regarding Manhunt 2 and the hack that makes the censored material available -- we've placed the corresponding release and Q&A after the break. ESRB president Patricia Vance makes it clear that unauthorized hacking of the code does not constitute a need to reissue the rating, and that parents should be vigilant of what their kids are downloading from the internet in order to modify or remove "controls the industry has so diligently put in place for their own protection."

Vance better watch her back, parents don't like being told to do their job -- that's how wars with Canada get started.
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cultureesrbmanhuntmanhunt-2manhunt2nintendo wiips2psprockstarsony playstation 2sony pspstatementwiiFri, 02 Nov 2007 17:58:00 -040011|1028350https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/wrup-double-dose-edition/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/wrup-double-dose-edition/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/wrup-double-dose-edition/#commentsTwo very high profile games released this week, in both Manhunt 2and Battalion Wars 2. While we have yet to give the former a try, we've been all over the latter thanks to Nintendo. The game is, seriously, very good. You don't need our review to know that (it's coming as soon as possible!). So, if we had to suggest one game to pick up this week, it would definitely be that.

Of course, who are we to say what you should play? Have something else in mind? Please, do share.

Update: Oh, and let's not forget Guitar Hero III. Guess it's a triple does week. Damn this holiday season and its tons of releases.
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bwiimanhunt2Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:00:00 -040011|1027996https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/rockstar-fails-to-give-credit-where-credit-is-due/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/rockstar-fails-to-give-credit-where-credit-is-due/https://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/02/rockstar-fails-to-give-credit-where-credit-is-due/#commentsWith the recent release of Manhunt 2, and all the controversy surrounding it, the Rockstar Vienna studios that had to close their doors while working on the title (which you may remember was downgraded from AO to M) is a bit ticked off right now. Turns out, Rockstar omitted the entire team of over 50 folks who worked hard on the game from its end credits.

And now, ex-producer Jurie Horneman is fuming. He has a plan to fix the situation, however, and "intends to correct an inaccuracy in the game's credits, namely the over 55 missing Rockstar Vienna employees who worked on the game from January 2004 until the studio was closed down on May 11th 2006." He further documents his disdain for Rockstar by adding "I am disappointed and outraged that Rockstar Games tries to pretend that Rockstar Vienna and the work we did on Manhunt 2 never happened - the work of over 50 people, who put years of their lives into the project, trying to make the best game they could. I am proud to have been a part of that team."
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