drnooo: I dont get all the talk about how brilliant the mate is. There was at least another after black queen takes the bishop, right starting with white withdrawing his bishop in discovery, one one move for black, then rook takes with check and mate. Not as pretty, but pretty fast. Also the knight sac is so forcing after that, that yep, it looks like a Morphy game, but then everybody always complains that Morphy was always never playing real masters except Andersen and a few others, so here too Carlsen is playing way under his class. He struts his real stuff in his famous game against Shirov early on, etc. Each to his own, for sure, but he is much much much more impressive against the super grandmasters.

SirChrislov: I hate to see a game end so soon with black's rooks still immobilized, just sittin' far away in the corner like two dumb old elephants. What do you need your heavy artillery for if you're not going to use it?

Black's play in this game was just UGLY. He deserves a kick in the Groenn.

Moondoll: <Chessmensch: I agree with <percyblakeney>. What was Groenn thinking with 16..b6?> Fritz11 agrees also giving b6 a ?? and indicates the more natural "0-0 'saving the game'" would have been more prudent.

alayo: I propose to name the final mating pattern: Carlsen's Mate! A combined effort between the rook at f7, the pawn at d4, the enemy bishop (only a bishop - any other piece would have defended the king) blocking the king at d6 and the queen (or bishop for that matter) delivering mate from c4.

I agree, although such a statement might get you branded a heretic, around here. If you look at the competition Morphy faced, none are thought of as high level players except for Adolph Anderssen. Most are not even thought of as strong GMs, compared to today's players. Then, take a look at the murderers row Carlsen faced at the Tal Memorial, and at Linares.

funkymihir: WELL i think comparing modern grandmasters to morphy and capablanca is not correct as morphy did not have engines and 2nds to help them analyse so carlsen gets a lot better through thorough coaching

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