"FFS go away" I think you said, just because you got somebody challenging your opinions.

Originally Posted by Mikleran

People are arguing with me over a fact. That's all i disagreed with..

For Gods sake what is your problem?

No problem kid. People are not arguing with you over a fact. The facts are, SONY has 25% on-line attach rate vs 50% for Microsoft. Nobody is dismissing that at all. However, where people like myself are challenging you is in your assumption that because it is free, SONY should have a higher percentage on-line. We've given reasons why that might not be the case, and all you do in response is call people fanboys.

Originally Posted by Mikleran

FFS I am comparing two games. I couldn't give a sh!t about which console they are on; some of the building textures in F1 look abysmal at best...

You seem to think that any comparrison between two games across platforms is aimed at having a dig at a console? Get real..

There you go again, getting all aggrevated and swearing. I think nothing of the sort. What I think is a comparison of an F1 game with 22 cars on track is a slightly unfair comparison to a game with only a handful of cars on track, regardless of what console it is on.

"FFS go away" I think you said, just because you got somebody challenging your opinions.

They aren't challenging opinion at all. They are being fanboyish and saying 'oh PGR3 is on the 360 so let's get the best looking PS3 game out so far and compare it against it'

I couldn't care if GT-HD looks better than PGR3. In reality, the textures in F1 aren't as good as they should be. That was my point; that is all i cared about in that thread. Is that enough for you?

No problem kid. People are not arguing with you over a fact. The facts are, SONY has 25% on-line attach rate vs 50% for Microsoft. Nobody is dismissing that at all.

Yes they quite clearly were. Read the entire first page of this thread again.

However, where people like myself are challenging you is in your assumption that because it is free, SONY should have a higher percentage on-line. We've given reasons why that might not be the case, and all you do in response is call people fanboys.

I am calling people fanboys because firstly they were refusing to accept the 360 could possibly have had 50% of it's consoles online first, and secondly that it's a higher percentage than the PS3 currently has. I have challenged someones reasoning as to 'not everyone has wi-fi/ethernet' with a perfectly valid point that holds to both the 360 and the PS3.

What I think is a comparison of an F1 game with 22 cars on track is a slightly unfair comparison to a game with only a handful of cars on track, regardless of what console it is on.

There is absolutely no reason why the textures on some of those buildings are so bad. For God's sake just accept that.

It would have been a thread all about how good Sony is and how amazing their product is once again.

Without 360-owners on this site and people who don't think that the PS3 is up there with God this site would become an absolute joke.

More like we would have talked about when the numbers will increase.

I personally am not wowed by the numbers and Im a pretty big PS3 fan.

Those 360 owners do a pretty good at trolling and derailing threads in the ps3 section.

Im thankful for opposing viewpoints on this forum and Im not saying all xbox fans troll.. But the majority of them "contribute" how PS3 is for teh suxxors and it will fail , 24/7.

If all PS3 fans here do nothing but overhype the PS3 and sony like you say they do, then all Xbox fans do is bash the ps3 constantly in the most hypocritical way possible, and deny any flaws the 360 might have.

I can imagine how the HUGE SUCCESS line in the thread title ticked you off, but dont take it so seriously, no one else is.

It would have been a thread all about how good Sony is and how amazing their product is once again.

Without 360-owners on this site and people who don't think that the PS3 is up there with God this site would become an absolute joke.

Yes, what would we do without the endless threads about how Developers hate the PS3 and how analysts think a QRio will jump out of the PS3s case and blow themselves up in our livingrooms?...

Those Time articles are very enriching to our lives. In fact, I will start to thank the next person who posts a Bill Gates interview or a Shane Kim interview lambasting the PS3 for not being designed in Redmond Washington. Thank you XBox fans everywhere, your righteous indignation shall not fall on deaf ears..

The surest sign that you are on the right side of a debate is when you find yourself against those who are stuck in the past because they have no future.

When will you fanboys ever learn? This forum is getting worse and worse with people now even unwilling to accept valid comparrisons between two games or the % of people connected to the internet.

This thread is a great example of how you fanboys are just a disgrace to the gaming community.

What? There's someone who's just bought a $600 and can't afford a simple $20 USB adapter for their PC to get online? (Yes i looked that up on the internet.. before you guys start 'oh you can't do that, it's never that cheap... Here.)

Seriouslym, its a PS3 forum, your a troll you never say anything Positive about PS3 so why are you here?

It would have been a thread all about how good Sony is and how amazing their product is once again.

Without 360-owners on this site and people who don't think that the PS3 is up there with God this site would become an absolute joke.

Excuse me? Last time I checked these were the "PS3 Forums". If you want to get all heavy into Xbox 360, why not head over to Team Xbox? I'm not asking you to agree with me, but I am asking you to stop trolling and just respect the views of other members a bit more.

I honestly, truthfully do not care one bit about the relative numbers, or how textures look, or whatever. I made my decision to get a PS3 a long time ago, mainly for the games, but also for the other media and hardware functionality it offers. I'm as balanced as they come in terms of where they sit on the fence, and am no "fanboy" as you put it.

Oh, and you might want to get that signature sorted out - the image is in violation of the rules and standards.

It would have been a thread all about how good Sony is and how amazing their product is once again.

Without 360-owners on this site and people who don't think that the PS3 is up there with God this site would become an absolute joke.

I'd rather it be a joke than listening to you spewing BS everywhere. It's like a bunch of PS3 fans get together for a party, and some ******* down the street comes in and crashes our party uninvited while being a complete idiot, ruining everyone's fun.

Yeah... thanks alot

"and I mean If he doesn't like you after he sees this, then you're just gonna have to go back home and put some more make up on."

I think it's more appropriate to say it's off to a very, very good start. I'll be checking back on it's success when the system launches in Europe and more games come out that take advantage of the PSN.

Someone says something negative about the PS3; they're a troll. Someone dislikes a part of the graphics of a PS3 game; they're a troll.

You all need to get a life. If this place was just total PS3 fanboys like the vast majority of you who have posted in here i would still come here just to laugh at your retardness.

Get a life. Seriously. Someone who says something bad about the PS3/ compares it to something better in another game/service is not a troll.

Jees.

Seriouslym, its a PS3 forum, your a troll you never say anything Positive about PS3 so why are you here?

You've been on the forum for a whole 11 days. You don't know me. Just because i don't think that the PS3 is God it does not make me a troll at all. Look at my post history FFS; positive in Oblivion Dev thread; positive in Motorstorm Threads; etc etc. in my last dozen posts.

Just because i am not a PS3 fanboy i am not a troll.

Originally Posted by EvoLutioNight

Just wondering has Mikleran played F1? or have a Ps3 for that matter

What region am i from? What region is everyone else in that thread who i was arguing with from? Oh wait Europe! None of us have played either...

I might have known it wouldn't have been good enough for you! First you bring PGR3 into a SONY F1 game thread, and now Microsoft and Xbox live into this...

At this moment in time, the comparison is a little unfair. Most early adopters who picked up an Xbox 360 will have already had an Xbox, and quite likely, a Live account - a service that had been going for a long time prior to the Xbox 360. When you add onto the fact that SONYs previous "network" offering was rather lame, I'd say 25% is a damned good figure as people start to explore SONYs offering. At least there's a good chance that the majority of that 25% will be playing games online because they don't have to pay, unlike with Live. I know I will be playing games online with the PS3, but I wouldn't pay for live.

Dont quote me but:

- Playstation had more people on their PS2 online than LIVE did.
- 50% of people didn't own a Xbox before buying a 360 (Aquanox's thread)

++ Some people may jsut have a PS3 for Blu-Ray player and not care about gaming so that could lead to low numbers
(taken from rants at AVS forum)

I'd be more interested to see how many people have downloaded the paid content.

Why are you always so negative about the ps3 Aleman ?
There are not much worth at the momnent for download, so you know stats are gonna be bad.
Maybe you could give it a little rest and just enjoy what (very little up to now) it has to offer ?

hmm

i have my wi fi hooked up and a strong signal
but the bottom line the playstation networks lags on most games i have played its hard even getting a game started, then when you did its glitchy

either the network(playstation /ea sports network doesnt have the bandwith) or we are already reaching the limits of high speed cable broad band.

heck on some games even not online it seems as if the ps3 is working hard to render the images, then i hear its only using 30 percent of its power?

i dont know i have had a 360 played it for a while sold it
bought a 60gig ps3 and like it for what it offers, but lets be honest besides getting the blue ray and wi-fi its not really any better from what i can see as a 360
and im guessing live is better as far as lag?

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