Nice work, BTW, Ian! I've been following this thread for some time and I really like what you've put together (and I've seen a LOT of these in my time!) Would you be agreeable to allowing me to put these on my Ship Schematics Database at some point?

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Absolutely! I didn't know you were still looking for new designs!

A bonus for you guys...alternate load outs (profile view only though):

Also i think your all forgetting that in the ep the Saratoga was in Phaser Like beams were coming out of those long pods which makes me think the Saratoga was a Normal Miranda then refitted with those pods later in its life.

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Actually, the phasers were coming out of the lower planetary sensor dome, as seen here:

Nice work, BTW, Ian! I've been following this thread for some time and I really like what you've put together (and I've seen a LOT of these in my time!) Would you be agreeable to allowing me to put these on my Ship Schematics Database at some point?

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Absolutely! I didn't know you were still looking for new designs!

A bonus for you guys...alternate load outs (profile view only though):

The USS Samuel B Roberts [NCC-2413] is christened after the destroyer escort of the same name which fought in the Battle of Samar for the 20th century United States Navy during Earth's World War II.

The ship and crew were part of a task force assigned to protect the flank of ships landing American amphibious forces during the Battle of Leyte. Communication errors resulted in the task force being cut off from reinforcements and facing a far superior opposing force of battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Despite being heavily outgunned, the Roberts threw itself at the enemy vessels, scoring multiple hits at extremely close range and remaining engaged for over an hour before finally being sunk. The shipbecame known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship".

Well armed, fast, and known for both reliability and ease of maintenance, the Roberts-class destroyers are popular with their crews. Ironically, the most ardent enthusiasts are Andorians, who seem drawn to the "romance" of the class-ship's story, and a large number of the 70 Roberts-class hulls serve in units of the so-called "Blue Fleet".

Also i think your all forgetting that in the ep the Saratoga was in Phaser Like beams were coming out of those long pods which makes me think the Saratoga was a Normal Miranda then refitted with those pods later in its life.

Click to expand...

Actually, the phasers were coming out of the lower planetary sensor dome, as seen here:

Also i think your all forgetting that in the ep the Saratoga was in Phaser Like beams were coming out of those long pods which makes me think the Saratoga was a Normal Miranda then refitted with those pods later in its life.

Click to expand...

Actually, the phasers were coming out of the lower planetary sensor dome, as seen here:

The USS Samuel B Roberts [NCC-2413] is christened after the destroyer escort of the same name which fought in the Battle of Samar for the 20th century United States Navy during Earth's World War II.

The ship and crew were part of a task force assigned to protect the flank of ships landing American amphibious forces during the Battle of Leyte. Communication errors resulted in the task force being cut off from reinforcements and facing a far superior opposing force of battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Despite being heavily outgunned, the Roberts threw itself at the enemy vessels, scoring multiple hits at extremely close range and remaining engaged for over an hour before finally being sunk. The shipbecame known as "the destroyer escort that fought like a battleship".

Well armed, fast, and known for both reliability and ease of maintenance, the Roberts-class destroyers are popular with their crews. Ironically, the most ardent enthusiasts are Andorians, who seem drawn to the "romance" of the class-ship's story, and a large number of the 70 Roberts-class hulls serve in units of the so-called "Blue Fleet".

That squished secondary hull you turned into a smaller pod ( a small NX-01 refit look) looks nice. It might be good to try to squish your Valhalla super saucer and stretch it out (smaller scale) but keep the nacelles at full size and see how that works out...

The saucer cut-outs on the octagonal saucer I liked to might make for some nice weapon ports, though they might have to be squished to fit too.

If so, go to the one with all the nacelle pylons on it (Toolkits Freebies 8) and select the profile view of the "mini secondary" in the lower right corner. Open a new window with just that part. Paste it in the new window. Now go to Resize Image (or the equivalent in whatever program you are using) and reduce the height of the hull 50% but leave the length the same as it already is.

Now paint out all the now squished windows and the segment-lines on the shuttlebay doors. Isolate the shuttlebay doors with a mask (Magic Wand in PdN) and use a linear gradient fill from left to right (the lightest part should end up on the far right).

Now go back to Vance's page 8 and Isolate and copy the airlock door on the un"squished" mini-hull. Go to your "squished" hull and put it where you want it to go.

To do the front, go back to page 8 and copy the front view of the mini-hull. Paste it into it's own window and again reduce the height ONLY by 50%

The top view is the easiest. Select the mini-hull top view and paste into new window. DO NOT ALTER either width or height. Paint out the connection lines on the shuttle bay door. Mask off the doors with Magic Wand as on the side view. Now use a CONE gradient fill with the center starting underneath the aft formation light above the shuttle bay (the little round feature) and go from left to right (again, the lightest part of the fill should be to the right).

If you want to add a sensor dome to the UNDERside of the squished hull, just take a 2 pixel curved line and start at the left end of the undercut and connect the other end to the little "lip" underneath the shuttlebay. Tweak the curve until you get the shape you want. Mask off the interior as you did the shuttlebay doors and use LINEAR gradient to fill going left to right.