If you've been thinking about heading to New York City's Museum of Modern Art with the intention of using your selfie stick to grab a shot alongside Pollock's One: Number 31, 1950, forget it – articulated monopods are now banned.

If you've been thinking about heading to New York City's Museum of Modern Art with the intention of using your selfie stick to grab a shot alongside Pollock's One: Number 31, 1950, forget it – articulated monopods are now banned.

By Christopher Elliott

All Ed Lawrence wanted was a little rest.

He was on an overnight flight from San Francisco to Boston, which offered him six hours of sleep, at best. And he figured everyone else would want some peace and quiet on what's traditionally called the "red-eye" flight.

He was wrong.

Two toddlers seated near to him decided it was playtime, and their rookie parents and other passengers indulged the young passengers. Lawrence, a frequent flier who works for a technology firm in the Boston area, didn't sleep a wink.

"I wonder if kids should be on a red-eye flight," he says.

His question comes at an interesting time. It seems two airlines agree with him, at least partially.

Malaysia Airlines (www.malaysiaairlines.com) this summer introduced a no-kids section some aircraft flying between Kuala Lumpur and London. And another Malaysian airline, AirAsia X (www.airasia.com), announced it would create a "quiet zone" in the first eight rows of the economy section of some aircraft starting early next year. Both moves seem designed to let passengers sleep on overnight flights.

Some parents might argue -- and I might be inclined to agree with them -- that a red-eye flight is the perfect place for young kids. As long as they sleep. I've made many cross-country flights with my three kids when they were younger, and I preferred the overnight flight because there was a reasonably good chance we'd all get some rest.

But my kids slept, and when they didn't, they behaved. The ones Lawrence flew with did neither.

"It was a disaster," he says.

Lawrence paid an additional $79 for an aisle seat with extra legroom. He sat next to Dad, in the middle seat, and one of the toddlers, seated in the window seat for takeoff and landing. Mom was a few rows back with the second child.

"During the first couple of hours, they had to get up a few times to see Mommy or to go to the restroom," he says. "Sometimes Mommy came and stood right next to me. The parents passed the kids over me a few times."

Meanwhile, Lawrence was beyond exhausted. He'd been up since 6 a.m. that day, had put in a full day of work, and just wanted a few hours of shut-eye before he landed.

"Finally, around four hours into the six-hour flight, both kids start screaming non-stop," he says.

Lawrence turned to the father.

"I want to try to get some sleep," he told him.

"What do you want me to do?" Dad replied.

"Your problem shouldn't be my problem," said an agitated Lawrence.

Other passengers were unsympathetic to Lawrence. One of them suggested he was the real whiner, which made a bad situation even worse.

I feel for both Lawrence and the father, who was probably equally sleep-deprived.

But the experience raises some interesting questions: Are there passengers that should either be denied boarding or limited to certain flights? Who has more rights on a flight -- the crying baby or the tired passenger?

I don't know how to answer either of those questions. They may be unanswerable.

Lawrence says his flight was one of those times. "There clearly was no solution to a bad situation," he told me.

Unfortunately, crewmembers often must mediate passenger disputes like this, and they shouldn't have to do that. The rules should be clear, and everyone should understand them.

Obviously, some families with young kids don't belong on an overnight flight. But how am I supposed to know it's my family?

Christopher Elliott is the author of "Scammed: How to Save Your Money and Find Better Service in a World of Schemes, Swindles, and Shady Deals" (Wiley). He's also the ombudsman for National Geographic Traveler magazine and the co-founder of the Consumer Travel Alliance, a nonprofit organization that advocates for travelers. Read more tips on his blog, elliott.org or e-mail him at chris@elliott.org. Christopher Elliott receives a great deal of reader mail, and though he answers them as quickly as possible, your story may not be published for several months because of a backlog of cases.)

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