All aboard the hypetrain, because Fallout 4 may be coming to your library soon.

For anybody who doesn't already know http://thesurvivor2299.com/ is a (probable) viral marketing thing for fallout 4 (or some other fallout game, but it would probably be 4). Multiple morse code files have been found and hint to a larger story. All of that can be found here.

You're talking about a open world Bethesda game, crashing and bugs are as much a part of the experience as stealing everything that isn't nailed down

It seemed to be missing from Skyrim

Interestingly enough I've put more time into Skyrim than Oblivion and Fallout 3 combined

Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:50 pm

Nonsequitorian

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Re: Fallout 4 Hype

I don't know what you're talking about, Skyrim was not a piece of bug free gold. I would have it crash at random moments all the time and stealing everything was about as important as walking.

Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:46 pm

Duh102

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Re: Fallout 4 Hype

A lot of FONV and FO3's crashes could be fixed with mods. You could also make them far worse with mods but that's another story. I didn't have any problem with Skyrim until I started modding it up, myself. Maybe it just hated your graphics card?

Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:30 pm

TheLastBanana

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Re: Fallout 4 Hype

It didn't crash as much as other recent Bethesda games, but it was definitely still buggy. That's kind of inevitable in games with such huge worlds, though. There are so many different combinations of states to keep track of that some of them are inevitably not going to be very well-tested.

I don't know what you're talking about, Skyrim was not a piece of bug free gold. I would have it crash at random moments all the time and stealing everything was about as important as walking.

It was crash-free for me, I've honestly never have it crash even with mods installed, liberal use of console commands and play sessions of hours on end.

I didn't say it was bug free in my original post but I can see how that would be implied by my reply to p3lbox. It gave me a few bugs, sure. I had trouble getting one of the objectives in the Dawnguard questline to progress, I couldn't get the Alchemy Lab upgrade in Whiterun to work properly, there was the infamous reverse dragon flight, a few sound glitches, but nothing gamebreaking, unfixable by console, or that wasn't patched pretty quickly.

Duh102 wrote:

A lot of FONV and FO3's crashes could be fixed with mods. Maybe it just hated your graphics card?

Yeah I tried one or two of these mods and as far as I could tell they didn't really have much effect. Seeing as Oblivion, FO3 and FONV are on the same engine, it might indeed just hate my graphics card.

TheLastBanana wrote:

That's kind of inevitable in games with such huge worlds, though.

Definitely true, I suppose they could always put more time into QA and debugging, and beta testers always seem to be pretty adept at finding bugs, but I wouldn't expect any large open world game to be bug-free.

Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:00 am

TheLastBanana

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Re: Fallout 4 Hype

My favourite weird behaviour in Skyrim (not really a bug, I guess, but they probably should have noticed it in QA) was one of the random events.

I came across a fortress and decided to take a look inside. I was playing a stealth character, so naturally I was sneaking in quietly. I had gone completely undetected, and I was sidling along a wall in the courtyard. Suddenly, the air was filled with the shouts of angered guards. Confused, I spun around trying to figure out who had seen me, and sure enough, nobody had. But why the shouting?

Down at the other end of the courtyard was a man with several arrows sticking out of his limbs, running at me, much to my bewilderment, full-tilt. By some miracle, none of the guards had caught up to him by the time he got to me. He frantically told me to hold onto his mace for him, then took off as fast as he came, leading the attention of the guards back away from me. Baffled, but breathing a sigh of relief, I continued toward a nearby tower, thinking that this must have been a one-off event, and that I would be able to continue my fortress raid in peace.

I was wrong.

A few minutes later, I was climbing the circular stairwell of the aforementioned tower when the shouting started again. Before I could get to a better position, another bedraggled fellow full of arrows had appeared behind me.

He wearily (and, might I add, awkwardly, considering he was staring up at me from several feet down the stairs and having his legs slowly but surely hacked off by an aggravated guard) asked me if I had seen anyone with a mace. I said yes. The guard said he never should have come here and stabbed him in the shin.

He asked if perhaps that was his mace, gesturing at my left hand. I said yeah. The guard said he was going to kill him and slashed at his ankle.

He asked if by any chance I could give him back his mace. I said sure. The guard repeated himself about the never coming here and gave the shin another shot since his target still hadn't even flinched.

I handed the man his mace. Looking a little flush, he politely thanked me, handed me a small bag of gold, turned around and promptly died. While his corpse clumsily bumped down the stairwell, I was left with the unpleasant business of killing the guard he had led to me. At least he looked quite satisfied to have finally killed a man who appeared to be, at least for the duration of our conversation, nigh-on invincible.

I gave the man a proper burial, which is to say I took everything he owned and sold it for pennies on the dollar, leaving his naked body to rot in a strange fortress. The presumed thief of his mace was never seen again.

Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:48 am

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Re: Fallout 4 Hype

^Evidence that Skyrim's bugs only added to the experience. I'm sure everyone has stories of weird AI behaviour or old ladies inexplicably floating off into space.

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