Proton safety poster shown at Sales Carnival, Melaka

This interesting poster was displayed at the recent Proton Sales Carnival in Melaka last weekend, where the national carmaker also unveiled the new Suprima S Super Premium variant. Take it how you will, but a real world incident is perhaps the best way to showcase the safety of a car – a Proton Preve in this case.

The poster explains that the vehicle is believed to have rolled over in the high speed incident, hence the caved-in roof. The photographic evidence shows that the car’s side structure remained largely intact, enough that the doors could be opened for the driver (the lady standing next to the engine) to come out without difficulty.

As for the much-talked-about detached engine, Proton stated that the phenomenon occurred by design, especially in such a heavy frontal collision. If needed, the heavy motor would drop down the engine bay to avoid being pushed back into the passenger cell.

The two models under Proton’s new Super Value line-up, meanwhile, are more affordable than before without compromising safety. The Saga SV is ASEAN NCAP three-star rated, and comes with two airbags and a host of other improvements. The same goes to the newer Persona SV, which features dual front airbags, all-wheel disc brakes, ABS and EBD.

Preferring to drive cars rather than desks, Hafriz Shah ditched his suit and tie to join the ranks of Malaysia’s motoring hacks. A car’s technical brilliance is completely lost on him, appreciating character-making quirks more. When not writing this ego trip of a bio, he’s usually off driving about aimlessly, preferably in a car with the right combination of three foot pedals and six gears.

Id say good move by proton these days, putting priority on safety in their recent cars. I dont know bout others, but ill definitely have an eye on safety when im goin for my next cars, last time for me it wasnt such a big deciding factor.

So we’ll go with quality first. Without quality safety might be compromised as well. Power windows fail to work, doors don’t unlock, engine catching fire, transmission/electrical failure while cruising on highway, airbag popping out for no reason.

I’ll gladly take a 4 star car which can assure the above don’t happen than this 5 star car with the risk of these failures.

Toyota had to recall millions of cars due to power window failure. And in the case of Toyota the car could start to BURN. Kind of more serious, isn’t it? Any car has quality issues. As long as they fix them that’s fine with me. The airbag popping out issue was fixed long ago. Should I bash Toyota for brake failures? Stuck accelerators? Those were far more recent problems…

That’s because Low Buidget ignorant people like you do not know engine mounting are build in such a way to avoid engine to intrude firewall & kill the driver & passenger, can’t blame you you are on low budget car which doesn’t have such features…lol

This is earlier quote (as reported by Paultan) “Proton said that the engine detached itself from the vehicle by design”. So DETACHED-vs-DROP DOWN mean the same Proton? If yes, than all Preve should’ve been recalled. If no, than people who gave the statement should’ve been f***d.

Volvo employs a totally different concept for the issues of frontal intrusion crashes.
The engine and gearbox itself is design to act as an absorbing material and a barrier to prevent intrusion through the firewall and into the safety cage. The gearbox is often extremely compact and mounted on the left side of the engine to assure this. This is exactly why all Volvos starting with the 850 onward are front wheel drive with the engine mounted in the transverse position. Another example to quote is how Volvo is able to maintain a similar safety performance for the smaller S40 which has a very compact engine bay as compared with its bigger siblings. This is achieved by redesigning the engine to partially integrate the gearbox with the engine block to be extremely compact.
Volvo were prepared to opt for a slightly understeer diving characteristic which as a consequence lead to a non-trilling driving experience when compared to BMW for example because of a safety aspect that they wanted to achieve. This is exactly why most car writers says that Volvos do not have a fun driving and handling experience.
But what is to be said is that unlike some other car manufacturers who build front wheel drive cars due to cost savings, cheaper manufacturing option, Volvo did this because of safety.

And for those who want to bash this statement what I mean is that in order for Volvo to have a solid absorbing block Volvo needed to remount the engine transverse. To ensure that the gearbox did not act as a projectile into the cabin area the gearbox had to be mounted on one side. Hence because of this arrangement the car had to be front wheel drive.

In order to better improve the driving characteristics, Volvo introduced TRACS and the Haldex AWD system in its 850.

This is because one of the limiting factors of a front wheel drive car is that it becomes very difficult to handle beyond 250BHP.

Volvo realized that long ago. It’s one of the reasons why they moved to a predominantly FWD platform because they wanted the engine to totally separate from the car in the event of a major accident. On a RWD car, it’s a bit trickier to implement because there’s still a tough prop shaft connecting the engine to the rear diff housing.

The Saga was already a big improvement over the Iswara and Wira, the Exora should be a 4 star car, and the Preve/Suprima are 5 star cars. The Saga is about to be replaced, I expect the GSC to get 5 stars as well.

Safety?I don’t think so.PREVE?Or take all Proton models.I did see the pictures of PREVE where the engine came off and landed on the road on FB recently.
Proton is the worst invention for MALAYSIA.
Proton existence has deprived many of owning luxury cars.No point talking about automotive when ppl have junk crap cars.Nothing so great about owning a proton.The uselss gov is milking the rakyats money out of selling this crappy proton.Think family safety?DONT EVEN THINK OF GETTING NEAR A PROTON.ITS DESEASE CAR.

well disease like you maybe..talking crap all day long. you are way worst than proton. talking without studying the facts. Proton nowadays are different from the past. well maybe there are still problematic proton but hey..other brands also got problems what?

You talk as if you understand the tax system and how to price a car. In reality it won’t work as you say, the economy of the other countries aren’t the same as us. There’re always reasons and factors why the other places price the cars cheaper.
Simply put it ths way, if gov unable to earn revenue from “A”, then they’ll try to earn this deficit from “B”. In the end, rakyat still susah.
Agree though we really need a better public transport system, that’s why there’s the new MRT. Improving the public transport always take ages.

What for do you need a luxury car? And cronies are (one of) the reasons why cars are so expensive in Malaysia. Besides, it’s a huge income for the government, that they can spend on helping you. Healthcare and what not. If they didn’t have this high car tax (on ALL cars), they would have to raise other taxes. Higher sales tax on all goods, higher income tax, no fuel subsidies but highly taxed fuels, … And don’t even think about 9 year loans. You might get a 3 year loan if you’re lucky, so in the end you’ll be driving the same cheap cars as before.

The AP system really needs to go though, it doesn’t benefit Malaysians at all, except for a few lucky ones with good connections.

Nandakumar, why u such a narrow minded, before u pull a trigger, have you learn anywhere how to shoot? Same goes here, Don’t u know about the safety feature? which comes to a priority? LIFE or ur CAR??? Wake up. Please google first before u talk. If u doesn’t know what u r talking about. So better be silence.

Safety?.. Yes.. But everyday I go to work I never thought to ramp somebody.. Or even scratch my cars, I always try follow the rules & speed limits.. Everybody knows how it feels driving at 80kmp in any modern cars today.. Even a Kancil.. Please la.. It’s 21st century dy.. & the issues nowadays are.. Green technology.. Efficient engines.. Low FC etc… Go to hell la proton.. Campro for decade dy.. No much improvements..

Have you ever wondered why a car crash is called an “accident” and it rarely involves both parties driving aggressively? It just takes one idiot to make an accident, the other party can be totally law-abiding and yet lose his/her life.

So you think people who get in the accident, they intentionally want to ramp their car? Hello.. malang tak berbau. Its for safety precaution. Even if you drive as skema as hell, if other driver recklessly hit you, you also involved into that accident.

I just pray that your car have the safety technology when you need one. Or maybe you are so skilled that accidents will not happen to you? Even F1 drivers get into accidents, so maybe you are more skilled than them?

Hey!!! today is NAP announcement, any updates?
Btw Proton ahead of Volvo? You must be kidding Bro. Every manufacture has it own design. You haven’t see how Volvo safety equipment “DON’T shame” on others.

Proton is bullshitting again. The caved in roof should not be due to rollover. Pls note that the driver’s door and side mirror are undamaged/unscratched. Do you think the plastic side mirror is strong enough to survive the impact of rollover several times?If an automotive company like proton can make such a stupid commend, imagine what they would consider when designing the car. The impact on the left side of the car is more likely the cause of the the caved in roof.The left A pillar is visibly slanted inwards towards the driver. Rollover will most likely cause flattened roof, not like this.

I take it you haven’t watched any crash investigation documentaries before nor seen how a vehicle gets thrown about when they roll over? Since when do vehicles roll over neatly like a rolling pin??

In a rollover, the vehicle will be thrown about because a normal passenger sedan’s width is more than the height. All sides of the vehicle will not experience the same amount of contact with the ground, the car will in fact be “bouncing” as it rolls.

The part of the roof that caves in or deforms more will usually be the side that hits the ground first. Due to the initial deformation, subsequent rolls will not cause the roof to cave in uniformly and in fact, the deformed roof section from the initial roll will alter the roll characteristics. Ideally the sides of the roof should be more resilient to caving in, but at least in this case it didn’t totally crumple inwards as would a Myvi’s roof.

Agree with you that the car may bounce during a rollover but if the rollover happened a few times, why is it that the driver’s door is still not damaged? Are you saying that the car will bounce each time it reached the driver’s door?Pls provide a more logical explanation.

if i’m not mistaken the a-pillar and b-pillar structure are part of the reinforced safety structure (ress) which are made of super-strength hpf steels.. it explains why the roof caved in during roll over since the steels of roof structure is softer than those hpf steels.. maybe the objective is to protect the doors from deformed so that it can be open easily without the need of the rescuer to cut the pillars like most other accidents where the roof just totally collapsed..

are you referring to your vege spring roll?
Can’t you see in the picture that only 1 side of the pillars were pushed inwards and the other ones on the driver’s side looked unscratched?It is so obvious that you guys are making stupid commends and blindly supporting whatever proton claimed without analyzing the picture carefully. If the car was involved in a rollover, do you think that lady driver could still walk to the engine and stand beside it to have a look?Even if the car has a very safe structure, she would have been very dizzy after the rollover.Pls use your brain to think before making anymore stupid commends

low class proton supporters with no engineering knowledge to differentiate between facts and lies. That’s why they cannot accept the fact that proton is lying again and disliked the commend above.Don’t believe?Ask that lady driver what happened.Rolloever and spin are 2 different scenarios.Spinning a few rounds is more likely than rollover.

wow you might have interviewed the lady owner lah.. how is she? have u seen the car rollover? didnt you know that when the rollover occourd it could be a million ways possible? unless you are the all mighty then i rest my case lah. Coz malaysian nowadays talk only the talk..

you can’t even spell comment correctly..and somemore you want to teach Proton how to design/make cars? go back to school please…get your spelling correct, and after that come back here to comment…stupid !

Hmm. Not very comfortable at all about the promotion poster. It makes the entire incident seem frivolous, even more so with the rather lampooning captions. Might be the owner of the car gave her consent, but still…a somewhat crooked and dark kind of promotion.

Ok bosses let me explain this way before we overact.Im a supplier of parts to BMW,Toyota/Perodua,Honda and Proton..BMW,Toyota and Honda got stringent quality checking before we are allowed to sell the parts to them.Perodua on other hands is under UMW so they get the second best and guess what the quality peoples in Proton are forced to accept parts that are rejected by those companies even though they knew the parts will create problems..Now who is the cronies here?I understood cronies will protect National car but in this cases its the other way round…So sad actually Proton also not so bad causs.ive borrow from my overseas friends.Until this problems is solved i will still see rakyat will bash them like no tommorow.For those who think that compete with Europeans and Japanese’ was an easy feat then try built your own car.Korean already pass the test..Sooner is Chinese cause of their money power and they can even buy Volvo for their safety aspects,Japan engines for their reliability and Korean style of offering more gadgets at an affordable prices

I work at a chassis supplier for Honda, Proton and Perodua, and because of ONE misaligned small hole in a Proton/Honda part can make us go headache making months of experiments, reports, assembly line improvement, retraining those assemblers blablabla. Because of a TINY HOLE somewhat get senget by 0.5~1mm

Perodua on the other hand, makes very diligent defects analysis like mad japanese but what the hell they accept the parts anyway.

this kind of advertisement will bring negative effect or not? later suprima owner “think” their car is really safe and speeding more often ler! then we see more suprima speeding way beyond national speed and accident rate will increase or not?

is it our education system that some comments here are totally garbage or its jus that some ppl are born retarded…?? godness me , zero knowledge abt anyting bt talk with conviction….
wat is hapening ppl????

Good start from proton to explain and prove their car had a higher level of safety.
Go and buy others car if you think they can give you high protect when you drive over than 160kmh.Proton done it and proved every where.the car still had strong structer even accident with heavy vehicle.
other car like subaru had same safety feature with double cost.but proton maintain at reasonable price.

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