Look, if you've ever been to Auschwitz or the Schindler Museum or seen the empty square in the Kazimierz quarter, you'd know that the memorials are not just about shedding tears for the victims. They are there to show what led up to the atrocities. How and why they happened. They are about Kristalnacht, the ghetto, the Germans and Poles turning in their Jewish neighbours.It's not politics, it's about inhumanity and trying to ensure it doesn't happen again. It looks like both of you could start an argument with yourselves in a locked room. So don't lecture me, just go back to the playground.

If you had read my original post you would perhaps realise why I feel so strongly about this I knew one person who was one of the first troops into Belson, and a polish guy I worked with for several years who escaped from a Russian camp which were no better than the German ones.

'kin hell ,we can't even have a chat about a terrible episode amongst ourselves without starting to get nasty,what about if it was only from something as simple as that that started all the fucking problems in the first place,chill out lads.

If you had any genuine respect or humility or a desire not to start an argument mtread you would have just kept quiet and left it alone ages ago instead of trying to continually have the last word.It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.It would appear that no human tragedy is off limits to you two for you to attempt what was accurately described as political point scoring.Just leave it man, have some respect.

If you had any genuine respect or humility or a desire not to start an argument mtread you would have just kept quiet and left it alone ages ago instead of trying to continually have the last word.It's not always just about you you know and your desire to portray yourself as some sort of self righteous defender of what you deem to be the truth.It would appear that no human tragedy is off limits to you two for you to attempt what was accurately described as political point scoring.Just leave it man, have some respect.

It's probably quite sad that I'm interested in, visit and read about all these things.

It's funny how war crimes were quickly forgotten after the war in exchange for knowledge and technology.For example, It was the German's that put America on the moon. Surprisingly, I didn't see much reference to that when we visited the Kennedy space centre... but it was all technology derived from the development of the V2 missile, the work of Von Braun and the slave labour camps responsible for building them. I've visited these and they are all equally sick.

It's easy to be hypocritical with all these things. I remember hearing some American lady at Auschwitz saying, "How can a nation stand by and let this happen...people held and tortured, without trial or human rights?!". I asked her if she had heard of Guantanamo Bay? Is it really different? We all choose to ignore it, pretend it isn't there, because it suits our interests.

The technology maybe,,but do you honestly believe anyone went to the moon,THE MOON,the foccin' moon in 1969,no way,not a chance,never happened and probably never will,the biggest con in history. not you Bretty,the lying U.S.A.