There is no real up or down in space, I guess he was referring to the magnetic north and south poles. I believe he is speaking of a polar shift (the
geographical south pole is the magnetic north and the geographical north pole is the magnetic south)

There is no real up or down in space, I guess he was referring to the magnetic north and south poles. I believe he is speaking of a polar shift (the
geographical south pole is the magnetic north and the geographical north pole is the magnetic south)

Yes he was speaking of north and south magnetic poles of our planet when lined up and compared to the other planets as being upside down. But I could
have misunderstood his statement. It did intrigue me to search more.

I realize there is no up or down in space at least in conventional science seeing basically the firmament is like a giant ball container of which all
the whole known universe is inside of. Supposedly the darkness beyond the stars are the sides of the firmament.

It rotates in the opposite direction. This could be used as an argument that Venus is upside-down.

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I did not know that! Interesting, I would have thought we rotated in random directions, I didn't know there was a uniform way to spin

I have two models one of Heliocentric (solar centered) and one of Geocentric (earth centered) and when you rotate these models both show Venus in a
kind of looping back and then around again rotation.

I realize not all planets have a North and South Poles however he did mention that in his study from the data collected from earth and voyager and our
satellites, all the planets do have a standard rotation around the sun Except the earth. That is if the way I understand what he was saying is that
heliosphere (sun) and all the other planets as one unit, are rotating around the Geosphere (earth).

swanne
We don't know... the problem is, not all planets have magnetic poles. Mars and Venus, for instance, are planets with no magnetic fields.

You are right about not all planets having magnetic poles, but there is not a single planet or natural satellite that doesn't have some form of
magnetic field. Even our moon has a measurable magnetic field, it is not caused by the process of geodynamo in that case, but said to be entirely
crustal in origin.

No I found that site in my search but it is not what he was talking about. that is another argument all together.

He concluded in saying that geocentric and heliocentric views can not be proven from any point on earth or any point not only in the heliocentric
system but in the entire universe because all points including the voyager space craft are all Moving. In order to truly get a accurate observation
one would have to place a vehicle in space and prove that it is completely STILL in order to then proceed to calculate which view is correct.

How does one put something in space and then know for a fact it is completely still in space if everything is moving?

ChesterJohn
I recently heard a professor of Physics say, "that in relation to all other planets in our solar system the earth is upside down."

I tried to google this but was unable to verify the statement.

Does anyone agree with this and if so where can I find confirmation of this upside down earth?

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Where is the "Geocentric Ideology" mentioned in the title?

Ah, it is several posts down

He concluded in saying that geocentric and heliocentric views can not be proven from any point on earth or any point not only in the heliocentric
system but in the entire universe because all points including the voyager space craft are all Moving.

You sure he wasn't talking about solar systems in the universe? I disagree with his conclusion anyway, but...

ChesterJohn
I recently heard a professor of Physics say, "that in relation to all other planets in our solar system the earth is upside down."

I tried to google this but was unable to verify the statement.

Does anyone agree with this and if so where can I find confirmation of this upside down earth?

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Where is the "Geocentric Ideology" mentioned in the title?

The upside down earth was made by a Professor of Astrophysics who has been discussing Heliocentric and Geocentric views and in understanding there
relationship to the universe.

I cannot find physical support for his statement of an upside down earth but according to him if I understood him correctly it has to do with these
views of the earths current position in either of these systems of thought.

Are you saying that all points are not moving?

Is your conclusion that there is a stable and still spot in the solar system or the Universe?

Are you saying that all points are not moving? Is your conclusion that there is a stable and still spot in the solar system or the Universe?

Nope. I don't remember even insinuating that.

But orbits and rotation of galaxies and gravity helps a lot in the whole geocentric/heliocentric idea.

If you disagree with his conclusion then you must have one of your own. I asked the questions to establish your conclusion or thought of which now
you admit you are not insinuating any answers for those questions.

So what is your idea on this whole thing.

I think that is what helio and geo centricity is all about what rotates around what and how. The why in science is not as simple as many dont agree
but all do agree the earth seems to be rotating. Gravity is caused by the rotation of the mantel around the core in the earth that is a proven fact
because the ground is stable and still.

Supporters of Geocentricity do have problem in that many believe the earth itself is not moving. the mantel moves and the atmosphere moves and that
caused by solar rays and waves of different type.

Over all it is hard to prove that either system of thought is correct unless an absolute spot of absolute stillness can be established for scientific
observation. Once done then one will be proven true and the other false the problem is our models are still from our point of view and neither one
can be proven true or false because both cause the same effects as observed from earth.

So like I said a true paradox. At least until and absolute still location can be truly established (meaning a verifiable absolute lack of any
movement of the location used for scientific observation).

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