Anyone else think the shot of Phasma and the troopers walking through the debris is after the hangar explosion with Poe and BB-8? Could mirror "Imperial Troops have entered the base......" from Empire.

Anyone else think the shot of Phasma and the troopers walking through the debris is after the hangar explosion with Poe and BB-8? Could mirror "Imperial Troops have entered the base......" from Empire.

I think that by the end of Ep 9 that the Jedi will evolve into something else. The Jedi code will be perceived in holding back their development. This means more like the EU so attachment is allowed, embracing their emotions, etc.

I think that by the end of Ep 9 that the Jedi will evolve into something else. The Jedi code will be perceived in holding back their development. This means more like the EU so attachment is allowed, embracing their emotions, etc.

They rejected GL ideas for the new trilogy and they have begun to bring in characters from the EU. It's like when Gene Roddenberry died, Paramount felt they had the right to leave Gene's vision behind. When George accepted $4bil for LFL, Disney now believe they have the right to develop the SW universe into what will make it the most money including disregarding the mythology.

They rejected GL ideas for the new trilogy and they have begun to bring in characters from the EU. It's like when Gene Roddenberry died, Paramount felt they had the right to leave Gene's vision behind. When George accepted $4bil for LFL, Disney now believe they have the right to develop the SW universe into what will make it the most money including disregarding the mythology.

I suspect that the basic evolution of the Force has George's approval.

They may have re-written his story outline but that doesn't mean they diregarded everything. The story has had a basic outline for over 40 years. I doubt Kathleen Kennedy is so foolish as to toss ALL of George's ideas out.

In essence, I think story elements will be/have been altered, but the underlying foundation will remain.

It's also worth mentioning that the EU was sanctioned by George. I'm surprised so many believe that those elements in the EU being mentioned did not have George's approval. Also, Qui-Gon was definitely a Lucas creation and he clearly thought the Jedi code was wrong. Finally, Yoda seemed to have many doubt in ROTS.

No, I still have faith that we are getting a version of George's vision. Maybe not HIS version but A version.

Even if they rejected GL's ideas they had 4.05 billion reasons they could and can, but they only altered it some.

And the mythology isn't being messed with it seems they're going back to a beginning with the journal of the whills. Yoda, Obi Wan and the council didn't have it right so to speak. They became arrogant and lost their way. Luke is finding the real balance

Anyone else think the shot of Phasma and the troopers walking through the debris is after the hangar explosion with Poe and BB-8? Could mirror "Imperial Troops have entered the base......" from Empire.

Yes, it appears to be the same (or similar) hangar.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The scene with the "skimmers" heading towards the AT-AT's was another one I thought ESB without the snow. I really do hope they don't do an almost copy of it

Anyone else think the shot of Phasma and the troopers walking through the debris is after the hangar explosion with Poe and BB-8? Could mirror "Imperial Troops have entered the base......" from Empire.

Yes, it appears to be the same (or similar) hangar.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The scene with the "skimmers" heading towards the AT-AT's was another one I thought ESB without the snow. I really do hope they don't do an almost copy of it

I was just looking at the trailer again. I don't think anyone's mentioned the books in this thread. If so, and this has already been addressed, well: Never mind. If not, then...

Might those books be the Journal of the Whills?

Yes, that is likely (at least some other Jedi literature lost to time).

Indeed, but that's rather a large field, no doubt. Ye gads, that could include Obi-Wan Kenobi's recipe for blue milkshakes!

But the thing about the Whills is, they predate the original film. I.e, they have been part of the earliest phase of Lucas's work on Star Wars. The Journal of the Whills was even quoted in the Prologue to Alan Dean Foster's 1976 novelization (ugly word) of A New Hope and in his (ugh) novelization of The Force Awakens (a verse identified as Journal of the Whills 7:477 appears as an epigraph). And they've made it into the films with Rogue One, so...

Maybe it's the right time, right place, for the Whills to get their cinematic due?

I agree just dropping this character in and saying he's a "dark Jedi" would confuse the casual viewer, but if it does turn out that he's Ezra....which isn't ruled out yet, that would be a great "bridge" from pre OT to ST.
Pun intended.

Explain to me what's the difference between any other trilogy? Or any other movie for that matter. Not every movie gets a full arc from beginning to finish and it changes as it goes. GL did not have the story written out from ANH to ROTJ. Oh, sure he had lots of things he wrote but it wasn't until several drafts some things came about. Because he did not know when he wrote ANH Luke and Leia was siblings and many other things. Or the PT either except for knowing he would turn. It is absolutely no different. So the backlash is pretty hypocritical.

It amazes me how the internet reacts. If it's similar to the OT it gets slammed. They say they are creating new stories and it's"omg they're making it up as they go along." Fickle as hell people are.

I gotta say the EU had some fans spoiled rotten and most of it was silly.

So we are made to believe that the Lucas Film Story Group doesn't have a master plan for not only the ST but the animated shows, comics, novels and every other form of media. I call Bravo Sierra. I see how the threads of connectivity are being inter woven between the PT / TCW/ SWR/ Rogue One/OT....so this ST Lucasfilm is just wingin' it? Okaaaay .

So the "who is Snoke?" Subject is making it's rounds around the interwebs again, and this guy Mike Zeroh is claiming the website comic book.com suggests.....based on a Lego figure that Snoke might be blind and if he is Snoke could be.................Kanaan Jarrus https://youtu.be/mGrhzr2AS7w

So the "who is Snoke?" Subject is making it's rounds around the interwebs again, and this guy Mike Zeroh is claiming the website comic book.com suggests.....based on a Lego figure that Snoke might be blind and if he is Snoke could be.................Kanaan Jarrus https://youtu.be/mGrhzr2AS7w