I'm shocked. I can't say I really liked the guy, but he was making or trying to make some good decisions. He was against the Lisbon Treaty, and
stuff like that. Got a lot of sympathy from me thanks to that.

It's really devastating, the amount of people crucial to the country died. And I agree - why so many people on one plane? Perhaps because we had only
one government plane and an old one?

I don't know. There's footage of the crash site on Polish TV. Gotta tell a friend to record it.

I don't believe in coincidences. I've seen too much in my life to believe in them.

No way the entire ANTI-RUSSIAN POLISH GOVERNMENT is killed in a RUSSIAN plane accident IN RUSSIA, the SAME MONTH that they deploy AN ANTI-MISSILE
SHIELD ON RUSSIA'S BORDER, which RUSSIA SEES AS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT.

I mean, HOW MANY TIMES THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENED IN HISTORY? None that's what.

Sorry but this kind of coincidence, no way in hell.

I believe it was an assassination. Call me a kook, anti-Russian I don't care. As smart and cunning as Putin is, I'm sure he's capable of it.

What will probably happen : In the medias, for the public : it was an accident.
On the terrain : More troops, more military deals, more NATO activities in Europe. More support for Georgia Saakasvilli.

The big factor in this is BREZINSKI. Guess what.

Brezinski is POLISH. He's an Obama ADVISOR. HE HATES RUSSIA WITH ALL HIS GUTS.

Originally posted by harrytuttle
Why did the Poles have so many important people on one plane. It's never a good idea, considering politicians have many enemies.

Unfortunately many of polish politicians until now thought that they are bullet prove super heroes. Not long ago Lech Kaczynski was ruining with
Georgian president somewhere on the Russian border during the war. Polish politician are crazy to flay by old Russian planes which remembers deep
soviet times and should be withdrawer 20 years ago. 5 years ago polish prime minister Leszek Miller crashed in helicopter and survived. They didn't
do anything to give better safety for polish politicians. On the beginning in early nineties they didn't withdraw that planes because there was no
money for the new one but the time has changed. No one in fact understand why the old planes were still being repaired despite it was more expansive
than buying new one.

It is good news for Russians because everybody expected that sooner or later one of the government aeroplanes would fall and made a mes killing
president ore prime minister. Flying by this plane was great recklessness.

The Polish government will hold an extraordinary meeting later on Saturday, the government press office said in a statement, after the aircraft
carrying the Polish president crashed in Smolensk and reports said there were no survivors.

The central bank governor was also on the plane, which Russian news agencies said had 132 people on board.

So since the central bank guy is dead, will Polish treasuries bonds be hit? That could bring uncertainty to the Polish economy, and since they are
already on the brink of bankruptcy...

It is really a shame that both Kaczynski brothers are dead as i understand.
I am not polish , but as i see things they did great things for Poland , the economic growth is visible , the stood up against the anti missile
shields against the US and didn't give up until they got what they wanted for their people , they stood up against the Lisbon treaty.

I believe that most leaders are corrupt and are drawn in obscure activities , but some of them are also thinking at the people they represent and i
believe that the Kaczynski brothers were that kind of leaders.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions of blaming the russians of anyone else for that matter. We will see if this was an accident or not just by following
the repercussions of this event . If this was all just a script for a new war you can blame the ones who will declare the war or one of their alies
.

If not it's just a tragic event and i am truly sorry because polish people lost a great leader and europe lost a great model.

My honest first thoughts where that as he was anti-Lisbon that may have had something to do with it.. If the UK went down an anti-Lisbon route, I'm
guessing the UK would have had firm support from Poland.

Anyway, this reminds me of the Hamas made for TV assasination.. like that assasination, something just isn't right and just doesn't add up in my
mind.

To blame Russia appears TOO obvious.. tho somethimes the obvious is also the truth.. OH well.. I don't know, just wanted to add my speculation..

I believe this was an assassination, especially considering what others have mentioned including the missile shield and anti-Russia feelings this
president and others had.

The dense fog and clipping trees - is that confirmable? Because I know that they wouldn't want to blatently broadcast any conspiracy theories until
they have evidence?

*shrugs*

Time will tell I guess.

It sounds like someone altered the altimeter reading. It would have had to be gradual, perhaps while they were descending so that the pilot and
co-pilot would not notice. I wonder if that could be done remotely?

After its first attempt to land, the plane made a turn and scraped the tree tops after which it crashed and caught fire. The fire was put out
immediately by the Russian rescue services, yet the final is tragic.

The Polish media confirmed that besides President Kaczinsky and his wife, there were also Ministers and the director of the National Institute of
National Remembrance on board. The list of passengers had not been confirmed yet, but it is certain that it refers to President Kaczinsky, his wife
and other prominent figures and ministers

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