"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. Thomas Jefferson

(all handguns are in Chi-town) was taken by the police and is now in some cop's gun collection?

The most corrupt city in the USA is hardly "swinging our way"!

Morton's, Lawry's or Ruth Chris's?

then again i did use the word leaning, and not "swinging" in order to not imply that the "perceived" momentum was significant.

my point was more related to the police going against Daley's wishes....

i have heard of what you mentioned happening through similar shady methods, and do not doubt that it occurs at all.

but i'd also be surprised if someone hasn't all ready retained McDonalds attorney for him (the home defender)too.

hell yeah we're the most corrupt city in the USA, we gotta be good at something other than avoiding a world series pennant-

if it was up to me, this is where the police should really use "dont ask, dont tell.", -on fellow law abiding gun owners

the police that do that kind of crap, like confiscating personal property under the table for themselves, those are the ones with the lack of character that will agree to "try" and confiscate peoples weapons when and if that day ever comes.

Now that he is unarmed and on the gang bangers radar his trip to heaven may come quickly.

i would tend to think someone willing to ignore the ordnance to begin with, would not follow it after saving his own life because he ignored it in the first place, but you raise a valid point -that any hardcore criminal would consider returning to commit some act of vengeance.

i wonder if the victim's(young dead bad guy) parents will try to file a wrongful death civil suit too, that would create an interesting neighborhood dynamic.