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Re: Sam I Am?

Say we do it, Sam retires very soon, it doesn't bring us under the cap to attract another quality pg

Actually, it would.

That is, we would be under the luxury tax cap. (Very few teams are below the cap, which is ~$55 mil. The lux tax threshold is ~$69 mil. Someone will be able to report on the actual amount better than I.

Pacers current salaries for this year is $66.8 mil and next year would be $68.7 mil with Harrison and Tinsley, but without Rush, Graham, and Owens, according to hoopshype. I believe we can sign players to the minimum to fill the roster and it doesn't count. I am not quite sure about this.

However, if Tinsley is traded for Cassell, whose contract expires and possibly wouldn't be resigned for next year, then that frees up Tins' $6.8 mil. Harrison probably won't be back so that frees his $2.0 mil qualifying offer amount. So that's $8.8 mil there to fill 5 spots (Harrison, Tins, Graham, Owens, and Rush) - sign 4 to a min and that's about $4.8 mil for a quality point guard. Plus, we can sign someone for the 5 mil exception.

Re: Sam I Am?

However, if Tinsley is traded for Cassell, whose contract expires and possibly wouldn't be resigned for next year, then that frees up Tins' $6.8 mil. Harrison probably won't be back so that frees his $2.0 mil qualifying offer amount. So that's $8.8 mil there to fill 5 spots (Harrison, Tins, Graham, Owens, and Rush) - sign 4 to a min and that's about $4.8 mil for a quality point guard. Plus, we can sign someone for the 5 mil exception.

Even still $8.8 mil isn't a lot to throw at 5 players. If Kareem keep s playing like he is he will command more than the min and he will probably deserve it. The you need room to sign your draft pick (assuming you are keeping them)

I still dont see how this will make the Pacers any better. We trade a point guard for another point guard who will come off the books at the end of season leaving us with Diener as our only point guard on the roster.

Re: Sam I Am?

With as many PGs that will be FAs and the chance of playing time in Indy, we won't have a problem finding someone willing to play for a small amount and short contract, much like Diener's situation last summer.

And we'll be in a good spot in the draft to get a player like Collison.

Re: Sam I Am?

We wouldn't have $8.8M to throw at anyone. If you're not under the cap, all you get is the MLE, worth around 6 million, which is also usable by a lot of teams that are in a position to contend. All of those "good" PGs will sign there first, and we'd get whatever's left.

And we only get to use it once, there wouldn't be any "$4.8 mil for a quality point guard. Plus, we can sign someone for the 5 mil exception." It doesn't work like that. Now, if we were actually $4.8 mil below the cap, then yes, we could sign someone, but we're not.

Just some perspective when discussing this. Hey, on the bright side, if we had got Kwame Brown or another huge expiring for JO, we'd be right there, likely.