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A few general notes regarding DL C+:

On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).

The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.

The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.

Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.

Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.

dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seatsNOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.

Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.

Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.

IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.

Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable.

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

I intentionally booked weekend flights hoping to avoid business travel. FC frequently goes unsold on the shuttle hops so I've got a little hope for an upgrade on the flights to get from WNY to LGA. And I intentionally routed through LGA instead of ATL to hopefully improve my chances there. I've been lurking on FT for a while and I tried to pick flights that gave me a little better shot. I know it's still a long shot, but it's a numbers game.

It's also my flights to/from FL for vacation, so regardless of whether we get upgraded I know it's going to be a pleasant trip and a fun way to start of the Christmas/Winter holiday season.

$$ paid for EC seats is lost if upgraded. Delta clearly definines this in their T&C.

And Elite status is usually posted withing 24 hours of the qualifying flight. Not just on saturdays (that was years ago..) So whenever your account is credited with MQM/MQS that put you over the FO threshold your account will be FO. Right away you should login and select your preferred seats for all upcoming flights (unless you've already paid for EC).

Once your status shows FO then you will qualify for discount EC seats though not before. You will not qualify for FO benefits until your account reflects FO. You'll know when your elite status is updated simply by logging in to your account and checking your membership (general member vs Silver Medallion).

I have no information to offer on the EC sale though so I'm not sure.

Happy Monday! and welcome to FT!!

I took a flight on the last Friday of October and the miles posted Sunday morning but my status didn't change. It changed Sunday evening. FOs get free EC at check-in, and when I was an FO I was never unable to get an EC seat at check-in when I wanted one.

If I paid for EC (I don't I get it free because of PM status) and I got upgraded, I would be absolutely frickin delighted. Even if the T&C did not specifically say so, no way would I expect a refund and I don't see how anyone would reasonably expect one even in their wildest dreams.

If I paid for EC (I don't I get it free because of PM status) and I got upgraded, I would be absolutely frickin delighted. Even if the T&C did not specifically say so, no way would I expect a refund and I don't see how anyone would reasonably expect one even in their wildest dreams.

I agree but some might argue for short domestic flights that FC isn't very valuable. As I see it, if a FO pays for EC in advance, it's mainly purchasing a guarantee that one's seat will be no worse than EC. The person could also turn down the upgrade to keep the EC seat that has been paid for.

I would not read anything into seatmaps a month out. If you do manage an upgrade it will be because the business travellers that would normally be upgraded are not so likely to be flying that day.

While still not exact, the better metric to determine your upgrade chances is to look at the number of premium/EC seats already selected and compare that to the number of open F seats. If most of the premium and EC seats are available, that's a decent (but still nowhere near guaranteed) sign there aren't many Medallions on the route and you have a better shot at an upgrade. If the Premium and EC seats are filled up it usually means there are a lot of Medallions on the flight and getting an upgrade is going to be pretty tough. Again, not scientific. Late bookings, IROPs during the day, last minute changes and cancellations, SDCs, etc. all play a factor as well.

I agree but some might argue for short domestic flights that FC isn't very valuable. As I see it, if a FO pays for EC in advance, it's mainly purchasing a guarantee that one's seat will be no worse than EC. The person could also turn down the upgrade to keep the EC seat that has been paid for.

This is an interesting thought. While I didn't read the FAQ, I did have at least a mildly similar experience last week. First off, I'm back to cattle status as I got laid off last year and while re-employed now haven't traveled too much, so went from Gold to base member. That said, I recently paid for Exit row seating when checking in for a flight that was overbooked. I volunteered to bump, got placed on another flight in FC, and was all the happier for it. In fact, I hadn't even thought about the Exit row charge, but when I checked my statement the other day I noticed Delta had refunded it. Not sure if the same thoughts would apply with an upgrade (clearly not exit charges as even FO could reserve exit row at booking for free, but...), but it was nice to see the gesture.

For now, EC seats are atuo refunded if you are not seated in those seats when the fligt is closed out.

Interesting as this SOP seems to be much more generous than the rules state for EC. Maybe it's easier and less costly to refund everyone automatically than to document why the passenger did not ride in the EC seat that had been reserved.

If I paid for EC (I don't I get it free because of PM status) and I got upgraded, I would be absolutely frickin delighted. Even if the T&C did not specifically say so, no way would I expect a refund and I don't see how anyone would reasonably expect one even in their wildest dreams.

I agree with you Gralistair in principle. However I didn't include the nitty gritty details; on one flight they split the seats for my wife and I after an equipment change (MD-88 to A320) and now to get 2 seats next to one another it looked like I needed to grab EC. As was since pointed out, once I cross FO next week I can log in and move us to preferred seating confirmed next to one another. We're both under <5'6", legroom is a bit unnecessary for the two of us so it's not something I pay for unless I need to get off the plane in a hurry (mtg, tight connection, etc).

I also don't feel like calling to try to get the seats moved since I can deal with it myself in a week (or don't mind paying a small amount if I could get the 50% + 50% discount on the EC seats) rather than spending 15 minutes on the phone for the umpteenth time with delta this month. With the Sandy and Nor'easter weather issues earlier this month, I've taken enough of their time (and spent enough of my cell phone minutes).

On the US domestic leg from LAS to JFK, I flew on a B738. EC seat was 10F.

I have never ever experienced such an uncomfortable seat on a flight in any of my travels

Had I saved my money and had seated myself in regular Y seats, it would have been far more enjoyable than the EC product that I paid Delta to experience

I have emailed their customer relations people, and as I live in Europe I received a reply from KLM in Amsterdam, which added insult to injury. It was a condescending attitude that did not recognise any of the issues I raised

Since then, I have sourced an email address for the CEO of Delta and have already forwarded him a copy of my complaint .. I wonder will I even hear from his office

To say, that I have a feeling of been gouged by Delta on their EC product is an understatement

Finally, if anyone is thinking of purchasing the EC product on a B7378 of Delta... avoid ANY of the bulkhead seats

If anyone would like a copy of my email of complaint outlining every detail, please just PM me with your email and I will send you a copy