So I challenge this buRgger and all other buRggers trying to give a facade to a potential RM12. 5billion loss as "loose" change because they live a high life whilecitizen Joe and Jane try tocope from a base of maybe RM800-RM1,500 a month -- for hawkers, labouers and factory operators -- to the luckier ones at RM5,000-RM15,000 for the Excutives.