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Height does matter on the outside. That's the advantage receivers have over corners. So even if a corner is right on the receiver, guys like Nicks, Fitzgerald, etc can outreach and out muscle the corner for the ball. Jernigan isn't going to do that. There is a rare breed of undersized receivers that can work on the outside - guys like Desean Jackson who are ridiculously fast and can get open by just running by their corner. Jernigan is not that type of athlete. He's more quick than fast. He was drafted to replace Steve Smith in the slot before Cruz broke out. That's the position he played in college. I hope he can make an impact on special teams as a returner, but he struck me as a guy that was afraid of contact last year, so I don't even know how well that will work out. Unless Cruz gets injured *knock on wood* I don't see how he makes a difference. Hopefully I am wrong._________________

scar988 wrote:

I'm of the belief the best QB in NY right now (July 2017) is Geno Smith.

Idk...I think it gets overblown. There are plenty of receivers who play on the outside that are not the biggest or tallest. Antonio Brown is 5'10 186 also and has no problem playing out wide. When Jernigan came out he was compared to players like D-Jax, Percy Harvin and Steve Smith (Car). Corners are not the biggest guys either although I agree it's an advantage to be a bigger physical receiver...but quickness has a lot to do with beating jams and Jerrel definitely has that as well as speed. Guys in the slot get pressed on occasion also.

Jernigan is competing for the #3 role, it's different than playing out-wide in two receiver sets where the top #1 or #2 corners are always on you. Nicks and Cruz are always going to command the stronger defenders while the number three will likely get the third maybe fourth corner. Cruz can play out or in the slot...Steve Smith could play same when he was here too. Jernigan should as well and in three receiver sets the Giants can use all kinds of formations because they can all line up anywhere.

I just don't think it's a stretch is all and I may be a little biased to the guy because people who read the pre-draft forums last year know I was high on Jernigan. I actually thought he'd end up in New England and blow up with Brady and the Pats. Watching him at Troy I knew he was versatile enough to play in any style offense and be a weapon if teams utilized his skill set.

I think what's going to happen is that instead of changing up the offense to facilitate Jernigan, they are going to plug Rueben Randle into Manningham's role and stick to the gameplan. Randle is a big, physical target and once he hits his stride he can run by defenders as well. I think he can fill that role perfectly and can make defenses pay for cheating with Cruz and Nicks. Once he's comfortable, we will have our three receivers and Jernigan will become an afterthought. Just my personal opinion._________________

scar988 wrote:

I'm of the belief the best QB in NY right now (July 2017) is Geno Smith.

New York Giants’ Eli Manning on Jerrel Jernigan: “I’m Seeing Some Flashes of Brilliance”

Eli Manning:

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"I’m seeing some flashes of brilliance and some good things," Manning said. "Now it’s continuing to learn. Very familiar with the offense. Consistency, understanding all the ins and outs of it. That just comes with more repetition, more practice, preseason games. All those things will be very helpful."

I think what's going to happen is that instead of changing up the offense to facilitate Jernigan, they are going to plug Rueben Randle into Manningham's role and stick to the gameplan. Randle is a big, physical target and once he hits his stride he can run by defenders as well. I think he can fill that role perfectly and can make defenses pay for cheating with Cruz and Nicks. Once he's comfortable, we will have our three receivers and Jernigan will become an afterthought. Just my personal opinion.

Either Jernigan or Randle and I wouldn't be disappointed. I like em both but I feel Jernigan just gets a bad rap and I am indeed a fan of his so that comes with the territory. The guy is capable of a lot and I feel it's my duty to inform , remind and defend.

Brilliance? I hope so. But I think Eli, and the Giants as a whole, have become a bit liberal with their praise this offseason.

I'm skeptical of any extremely tall, or extremely short receiver tearing it up in training camp. Sinorice Moss was an Albany MVP every year during his stay here. And Ramses Barden has drawn rave reviews in training camp since his rookie season. Brandon London was another tall receiver that gave us false hope in the offseason. But once the real bullets start flying and corners get their hands on these guys, they seem to disappear._________________

scar988 wrote:

I'm of the belief the best QB in NY right now (July 2017) is Geno Smith.

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

You know what.....show them Acgotts curse list and see what they say.

We lost the following from the season before:

To injury

Starting LT
Starting CB
Starting MLB

To Free agency

Starting TE
Starting WR

we still came back to win......

As far as I am concerned, the doubters will always be doubters. We heard the same crap the last time we beat the Pats.

Just take comfort in the fact that we have the Lombardi Trophy and 31 other fan bases done and that is all that matter.

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

I guess the 2000 Giants squad beats the 2007 and 2011 ones then._________________

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

Yea I know it kind of annoys me too until I realize that those teams get the coveted title of being paper champions while we get to bask in the glorious light of the lombardi trophy.

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

Yea I know it kind of annoys me too until I realize that those teams get the coveted title of being paper champions while we get to bask in the glorious light of the lombardi trophy.

Seriously. Keep celebrating regular season wins. The Giants will keep winning when it matters.

I dont think anything ticks me off more than hearing "The Giants weren't the best team in the league last year" Then they point to the record of teams like the Packers and the 9ers. The whole point of the regular season is to set your team up for the postseason. The best team is the team that wins the Super Bowl. Period.

You know what.....show them Acgotts curse list and see what they say.

We lost the following from the season before:

To injury

Starting LT
Starting CB
Starting MLB

To Free agency

Starting TE
Starting WR

we still came back to win......

As far as I am concerned, the doubters will always be doubters. We heard the same crap the last time we beat the Pats.

Just take comfort in the fact that we have the Lombardi Trophy and 31 other fan bases done and that is all that matter.

If we stay relatively healthy this year it's gonna be a really good year I think. And I'm a pretty pessimistic fan