Hockey Widow wrote:I remember him saying the deciding factor was playing with his brother. BB allegedly knew this when he signed Rob two years, or whatever it was, earlier. BB was touted as a genius for signing Rob with the master plan to lure Scott when he became UFA. Have no idea if it's true but it helps make a legend.

Many of us at Old Central were saying our Canucks should go after Rob as a way of eventually luring Scott.

For a long time.

(Scott had stated a few times that he wanted to play with Rob one day).

Hockey Widow wrote:I remember him saying the deciding factor was playing with his brother. BB allegedly knew this when he signed Rob two years, or whatever it was, earlier. BB was touted as a genius for signing Rob with the master plan to lure Scott when he became UFA. Have no idea if it's true but it helps make a legend.

One hell of a legend, Burkie was running the Canucks when the Ducks signed the lesser Niedermayer.

Anaheim traded for Rob when Burke was the GM here.

Burke overpaid Rob ($2M per x 4 years in$40M cap world) as an RFA when he was nothing more than a grinder at that stage of his career.

That signing seemed crazy at the time and there probably was a method to the madness

*Edit* Rob Neidermayer type draft picks are exactly why you don't "tank" to rebuild. Had a solid pro career but certainly should not be a top 5 pick

dbr wrote:Whose biggest acquisitions came from assets Mike Keenan had acquired, who was just building with the blocks Pat Quinn had brought in. All hail Jack Gordon!

Burke, the same guy who went into Anaheim, signed Selanne, traded for Pronger, Niedermeyer, Beauchemin etc, and then wins the Stanley Cup. [/quote]

Let me see if I've got this right.

Burke signed Selanne, to a hometown discount, what credit does he get for that? Selanne would have signed anyways. Chris Pronger's wife wanted out of Edmonton so Burke brought them to Anaheim, good trade but he's lucky it fell in his lap and that he had assets (like Lupul) that the Oilers wanted. Scott Niedermayer, everyone knew where he was going to sign. Burke is supposed to get credit for getting hired by a franchise that already had been playing Rob Niedermayer for two seasons? He brought in Beauchemin, big deal, I should hope you'd be able to get a player that good in return for a marquee forward like Sergei Fedorov.

There was no "Hometown Discount" for Selanne. You seem to forget, Selanne looked done when Burke signed him. There was very little interest in him. Only after his signing did he start playing his best hockey in year. Selanne was such a bust in Colorado teams thought he was done.

In what world was Fedorov "Marquee"? He had a horrible contract and was already past-his-prime. Burke was desperate to rid himself of that deal. To save 6 million on a 39 million cap was an incredible deal. AND get Beauchemin? One of the best cap saving deals ever. There's no cup alone without it.

Just because Pronger wanted out, does not mean it was so easy to get him. He somehow convinced Lowe to take Lupul instead of Perry. He had to give Lowe the best deal.

He used Rob to help him get Scott. He still got Scott signed for less than other teams offered.

The best prospect/ player in the world not playing in the NHL - Evgeny Kuznetsov is on his way to the Capitals

Lets rewind to Kuznetsovs draft year - 2010. When it came time for the Canucks to draft - 25th overallI, Gillis and his goofs didn't like what was available so they sent that pick, Bernier and Grabner to Florida for the great Keith Ballard. These are 4 of the 6 players who went from 25th pick to 30th:

- Kuznetsov - Charlie Coyle- Emerson Etem- Brock Nelson

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

You're normally so credible, one of us is definitely missing something though. I'm not totally convinced it isn't me but Rob played for Anaheim during Burke's second-last season here..

Yes - look what I posted again. Rob was with Anaheim when Burke was here i.e. in Vancouver., When Rob became RFA, Burke as Anaheim GM, threw a large contract (at the time) at a guy who'd be lucky to crack 20 points.