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Shortly after 9/11, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith began coordinating Pentagon planning for an invasion of Iraq. The challenge facing Feith, the No. 3 civilian in the Defense Department, was to establish a policy rationale for the attack. At the same time, Feith’s ideological cohorts in the Pentagon began planning to take the administration’s “global war on terrorism,” not only to Baghdad, but also to Damascus and Tehran.

In August it was revealed that one of Feith’s Middle East policy wonks, Lawrence Franklin, shared classified documents—including a draft National Security Presidential Directive formulated in Feith’s office that outlines a more aggressive U.S. national security strategy regarding Iran—with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and Israeli officials. The FBI is investigating the document transfer as a case of espionage.

This spy scandal raises two concerns for U.S. diplomats and foreign policy experts from across the political spectrum. One, that U.S. Middle East policy is being directed by neoconservative ideologues variously employed, coordinated or sanctioned by Feith’s Pentagon office. And two, that U.S. Middle East policy is too closely aligned with that of Israeli hardliners close to U.S. neoconservatives.

Feith is joined in reshaping a U.S. foreign Middle East policy—one that mirrors or complements the policies of the hardliners in Israel—by a web of neoconservative policy institutes, pressure groups and think tanks. These include the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), Center for Security Policy (CSP) and the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA)—all groups with which Feith has been or still is closely associated.

First Iraq, now Iran

In the months after 9/11, rather than relying on the CIA, State Department or the Pentagon’s own Defense Intelligence Agency for intelligence about Iraq’s ties to international terrorists and its development of weapons of mass destruction, neoconservatives in the Pentagon set up a special intelligence shop called the Office of Special Plans (OSP). The founders, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Feith, are fervent advocates of a regional restructuring in the Middle East that includes regime change in Iran, Syria and, ultimately, Saudi Arabia.

Not having its own intelligence-gathering infrastructure, Feith’s office relied on fabricated information supplied by Ahmed Chalabi, an Iraqi expatriate who led the Iraqi National Congress (INC). In 1998, Chalabi’s group was funded by the Iraq Liberation Act, a congressional initiative that was backed by neoconservative institutions such as AIPAC, CSP, Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

At the same time that Chalabi and other INC militants were visiting Feith’s office, so were Israeli officials, including generals, according to Lt. Col Karen Kwiakowski, who formerly worked in the Near East and South Asia office under Feith’s supervision. Like the neoconservatives in the United States, Israeli hardliners believe that Israel’s long-term security can best be ensured by a radical makeover of Middle East politics enforced by the superior military power of the United States and Israel.

It now appears that Feith’s Office of Policy, which was creating dubious intelligence rationales for the Iraq war, was also establishing a covert national security strategy for regime change in Iran—most likely through a combination of preemptive military strikes (either by the United States or Israel) and support for a coalition of Iranian dissidents.

Covert operators

This covert operation is now the subject of an FBI espionage investigation and inquiries by the House Judiciary Committee and Select Senate Intelligence Committee—inquiries that have been postponed until after the election.

Without notifying the State Department or the CIA, Feith’s office has been involved in back channel operations that have included a series of secret meetings in Washington, Rome and Paris over the last three years. These meetings have brought together Office of Policy officials and consultants (Franklin, Harold Rhode and Michael Ledeen), an expatriate Iranian arms dealer (Manichur Ghorbanifar), AIPAC lobbyists, Ahmed Chalabi, and Italian and Israeli intelligence officers, among others.

Franklin, an Iran expert who was pulled into Feith’s policy shop from the Defense Intelligence Agency, met repeatedly with Naor Gilon, the head of the political department at the Israeli embassy in Washington. According to U.S. intelligence officials, during one of those meetings, Franklin offered to hand over the National Security Presidential Directive on Iran. For more than two years, an FBI counterintelligence operation has been monitoring Washington meetings between AIPAC, Franklin and Israeli officials. Investigators suspect that the draft security document was passed to Israel through an intermediary, likely AIPAC.

Franklin, who is known to be close to militant Iranian and Iranian-American dissidents, is the common link to another series of meetings in Rome and Paris involving Ledeen (an American Enterprise Institute scholar who was a special consultant to Feith), Harold Rhode (a cohort of Ledeen’s from the Iran-Contra days, who is currently employed by Feith to prepare regime-change strategy plans for Middle Eastern countries on the neoconservatives’ hit list), and Ghorbanifar (an arms dealer who claims to speak for the Iranian opposition). These meetings addressed, among other things, strategies for organizing Iranians who would be willing to cooperate with a U.S.-spearheaded regime change agenda for Iran.

Echoes of Iran-Contra

This cast of characters indicates that U.S. Middle East policy involves covert and illegal operations that resemble the Iran-Contra operations in the ’80s. Not only are the neoconservatives once again the leading actors, these new covert operations involve at least two Iran-Contra conspirators: Ledeen, who has repeatedly complained that the Bush administration has let its regime-change plans for Iran and Syria “gather mold in the bowels of the bureaucracy”; and Ghorbanifar, who the CIA considers a “serial fabricator” with whom the agency prohibits its agents from having any association

During the Iran-Contra operation, Israel served as a conduit for U.S. arms sales to Iran. The proceeds went largely to fund the Nicaraguan Contras despite a congressional ban on military support to the counterrevolutionaries. This time around, however, the apparent aim of these back channel dealings is to move U.S.-Iran relations beyond the reach of State Department diplomats and into the domain of the Pentagon ideologues. Ledeen, the neoconservative point man in the Iran regime-change campaign, wrote in the National Review Online that too many U.S. government officials “prefer to schmooze with the mullahs” rather than promote “democratic revolution in Iran.”

In early 2002, Leeden, along with Morris Amitay, a former AIPAC executive director as well as a CSP adviser, founded the Coalition for Democracy in Iran (CDI) to build congressional and administration support for Iran regime change. AIPAC and CDI helped ensure passage of recent House and Senate resolutions that condemn Iran, call for tighter sanctions and express support for Iranian dissidents.

The CDI includes members of key neoconservative policy institutes and think tanks, including Raymond Tanter of the Washington Institute for Near East Affairs (WINEA)—an off-shoot of AIPAC—and Frank Gaffney, president of CSP. In the ’90s, Feith served as the board chairman of CSP, whose slogan is “peace through strength,” and where Woolsey currently serves as co-chairman of the advisory committee. Other neoconservative organizations represented in the coalition by more than one member include AEI and Freedom House.

Rob Sobhani, an Iranian-American, who like Ledeen and other neoconservatives is a friend of the Shah’s son Reza Pahlavi, is also a CDI member. CDI expresses the common neoconservative position that constructive engagement with the Iranian government—even with the democratic reformists—is merely appeasement. Instead, the United States should proceed immediately to a regime change strategy working closely with the “Iranian people.” Representatives of the Iranian people that could be the front men for a regime change strategy, according to the neoconservatives, include, the Shah’s son, Reza Pahlavi (who has also cultivated close ties with the Likud Party in Israel), the Iraq-based guerrilla group Mujahadin-E Khalq (MEK), and expatriate arms dealer Ghorbanifar.

The CDI’s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on “the future of Iran,” sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute’s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney’s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Uri Lubrani of Israel’s Ministry of Defense. Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: “Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.”

JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled “Time to Focus on Iran—The Mother of Modern Terrorism,” Ledeen declared, “The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.”

JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA’s first executive director and was JINSA’s “Godfather,” according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI’s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA’s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.

Like other neoconservatives, Feith sees Israel and the United States sharing common national-security concerns in the Middle East. In 1996, Feith was a member of a study team organized by IASPS and led by Richard Perle that also included representatives from JINSA, the AIPAC-related WINEA, and Meyrav and David Wurmser.

The resulting report, A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, advised Israeli Prime Minister-elect Benjamin Netanyahu to “work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize and roll back” regional threats, to help overthrow Saddam Hussein, and to strike Syrian military targets in Lebanon and possibly in Syria proper. It recommended that Israel forge a foreign and domestic policy based on a “new intellectual foundation” that “provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism.”

Ideology alone does not explain Feith’s close connections to Israel. His old law firm Feith & Zell, which has an office in Israel, specialized in representing arms dealers and missile defense contractors. The firm has boasted of its role in facilitating technology transfers between U.S. and Israel military contractors.

Zionism runs deep

Feith’s right-wing Zionism typifies neoconservatism. The Pentagon’s advocacy of an invasion of Iraq and, more recently, its hard-line postures with respect to Iran and Syria, must be considered in light of the Zionist convictions and Likud Party connections of those shaping the administration’s Middle East policy.

Through the early ’70s anti-totalitarianism was the core political tenet that united neoconservatives and their forerunners. In this Manichean political worldview, the forces of good and democracy led by the United States were under constant threat by the forces of evil as embodied in communism and fascism. At home, the “present danger” came in the form of appeasers, pro-détente advocates, isolationists and peace activists who shied away from direct and preemptive military confrontation with the totalitarian empire builders.

Although the early neoconservatives were largely Jewish, most were not Zionists. In the ’50s and through most of the ’60s, neocons such as Irving Kristol—widely known as the father of neoconservatism—regarded Israel more as a key Cold War ally than as the biblically ordained homeland of God’s chosen people.

After the 1967 Six Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War, the Jewish neoconservatives embraced their Judaic roots and incorporated Zionism into their worldview. Anti-totalitarianism remains a core neoconservative foreign policy principle. Since the end of the Cold War, neoconservatism has focused on the Muslim world and to a lesser extent China—but is now tied to the ideological and political imperatives of right-wing Zionism.

Feith’s own Zionism is rooted in his family. In 1997, the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) honored Dalck Feith and his son Douglas at its annual dinner, describing the Feiths as “noted Jewish philanthropists and pro-Israel activists.” The father was awarded the group’s special Centennial Award “for his lifetime of service to Israel and the Jewish people,” while Douglas received the “prestigious Louis D. Brandeis Award.”

Dalck Feith was a militant in Betar, a Zionist youth movement founded in Riga, Lativia in 1923, by Ze’ev Jabotinsky, an admirer of Mussolini. Betar, whose members spouted militaristic slogans modeled after fascistic movements, was associated with the Revisionist Movement, which evolved in Poland to become the Herut Party, the forerunner of the Likud Party.

In 1999, Douglas Feith contributed an essay to a book titled The Dangers of a Palestinian State, published by the ZOA. That same year, Feith spoke to a 150-member ZOA lobbying mission to Congress that called for “U.S. action against Palestinian Arab killers of Americans” and for moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The ZOA lobbying group also criticized the Clinton administration for its “refusal to criticize illegal Palestinian Arab construction in Jerusalem and the territories, which is far more extensive than Israeli construction there.”

In addition to his close ties with the right-wing ZOA, before assuming his current position at the Pentagon Feith co-founded One Jerusalem, a group whose objective is “saving a united Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.” Other cofounders of this Jerusalem-based organization are David Steinmann, chairman of JINSA, board member of the CSP and chairman of the executive committee of the Middle East Forum; Dore Gold, a top adviser to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon; and Natan Sharansky, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora Affairs and current chairman of One Jerusalem.

One Jerusalem actively courts the involvement of Christian Zionists. In May 2003, One Jerusalem hosted the Interfaith Zionist Summit in Washington, DC, that brought together Christian Zionists such as Gary Bauer of American Values and Roberta Combs of the Christian Coalition with Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum and Mort Klein of the ZOA.

Dual agendas

The Israeli government and AIPAC have denied that they engaged in any criminal operations involving classified Pentagon documents about Iran. Sharansky said, “There are absolutely no attempts to involve any member of the Jewish community and any general American citizens to spy for Israel against the United States.” He observed that the investigation of the Pentagon’s Office of Policy staff most likely stemmed from an inter-agency rivalry within the U.S. government.

For his part, Ledeen told Newsweek that the espionage allegations against Franklin, his close friend, were “nonsensical.” Ledeen and other neoconservatives see the investigations as instigated by the State Department and the CIA to undermine the credibility of neoconservatives and to obstruct their Middle East restructuring agenda, particularly regime change in Iran.

Given the depth of congressional bipartisan support for Israel and close ties with right-wing Israeli lobbying groups like AIPAC, it’s unlikely that the investigations will provide the much-needed public scrutiny of the dual and complementary agendas that unite U.S. and Israeli hardliners. Feith’s policymaking fiefdom inside and outside of government continues to drive U.S. policy in the Middle East with no evidence that these radical policies are increasing the national security and welfare of either the United States or Israel.

Iran rumbles

Meanwhile tensions with Iran deepen—which suits the Iran war party just fine. “Stability,” Michael Ledeen once said, “gives me the heebee jeebies.”

On September 21, Iran’s President Mohammed Khatami warned that Iran may withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty if Washington and the International Atomic Energy Commission demand that the country desist from plans to enrich uranium. The Iranian government says that it has no plans to develop nuclear weapons, and international inspectors have not determined otherwise. However, if Iran does proceed with its plans to enrich nearly 40 tons of uranium, which it says will be used to generate electricity, it is commonly acknowledged that in a few years it could produce several nuclear bombs.

But it’s not only the possibility that Iran could emerge as the Middle East’s second nuclear power that worries the United States and Israel. At the same time that Washington was demanding that the Iranian case be sent to the Security Council, the Iranian army was test-firing its long-range (810 miles) missile—a demonstration of its commitment to an effective deterrent capacity.

From the point of view of the Middle East restructurers, Iran represents an increasing threat to regional stability. Not only does it already have long-range missiles, and might be developing nuclear weapons, its close ties with the Shiite majority in Iraq do not bode well for the type of political and economic restructuring the Bush administration planned for Iraq. Moreover, neoconservatives and Israelis have long complained that Iran backs the Hezbollah militias in Lebanon and is fueling the Shiite rebels in Iraq.

Effectively, Washington has already declared war on Iran. Being named by President Bush as part of the “Axis of Evil” triad targeted in the global war on terrorism and the new U.S. strategy of preemptive war has made Iran increasingly nervous.

Iran—itself a victim of a 1953 British and U.S.-engineered regime change that installed the Shah—has seen the United States implement regime change in Iraq to its west and Afghanistan to its east. Moreover, the U.S. government has for the first time solidly allied itself with the military hardliners in Israel—the region’s only nation with nuclear warheads and one of the few nations that has refused to sign the nonproliferation treaty.

Back in 1996, Feith was busy representing the armament industries in Israel and the United States while at the same time preparing a policy briefing for the Israeli government. In A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, Feith et al. recommended “a new vision for the U.S.-Israeli partnership … based on a shared philosophy of peace through strength”—a “clean break” policy that is currently being dually implemented by the Bush and Sharon administrations. The next demonstration of strength may well be with Iran.

Hi , what is going on in the world ? is really the next step iran ? USA will have war with iran and they will kill people in their life ? or their goal is to give freedome ? I really thinking about that ! is it like world war 2 ?or it will be good things for iranian people who are in lots of sadness ? they are really smart and good why they have to die ? they can be good person and good people but their government is bad ! is usa going to change the government ?
Caroline.........Posted by Caroline on 2005-02-14 03:11:16

Now, Mr. Cheney-- a four time myocardial infarct
victim with a cardiac ejection fraction of 38%-- has
nothing to lose. Having been caged away by Bush, he
thought he could revive the neocon Mideast enterprise
my encouraging Israel to "nuke" Iran. But he must have
failed to note a new book that appeared in Israel, a
product of the military-academic establishment: FROM
TERROR TO NUCLEAR BOMBS, by Ephraim Kam, avowing
Iran's defensive motives and reassuring that it's not
likely to engage in first-strike. To appreciate this
book, one must keep in mind that it was not God in a
burning bush searing in a map on the Shin Bet office
wall where the IDF assassination teams should hit to
kill HAMAS leaders or how to poison Arafat. The only
other way was for the Palestinian Authority's PLO
leaders to have guided and assisted the killers. I am
reliably told that this was indeed the case. The
reason is simple: the Palestinians and Israelis have
begun to think of the next generation instead of
fixation on the last of the 1940s that went through
the Holocaust and the Nakkba. So, a blood soiled but
nevertheless alive dove of peace has indeed taken
flight.
Let us recall that Khomeini sought union between
Sun'nis and Shi'ites against the secularists. In
response, the Saudis sought to insulate the Sunnis,
promoting Wahhabism, but it failed. Because binLadin's
shot at America and the terror visited on Europe have
no point other than attention seeking. Slowly, they
get what they wish for: attention in the form of
arrest, pharmaco-torture and extermination. This puts
the ball back in Iran's court: state terror through
"what if" hypothesizing on the part of Islam's foes.
But the mullahs were smart; they waited until we
exhausted ourselves in Iraq only to realize that
without our help Saddam could never have produced
WMDs. Now Iran plays games like North Korea and
dyspneic Cheney is shouting: "kill, kill, kill," but
no one is listening (except for Imus and his
listeners). Alas, Israel is not listening. The
following argument made by Kam makes clear why:
http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/sa/v7n3p2Kam.html.
It is rather typical of Cheney's one cylinder mental
motor that he misreads the new Israeli determination
to try the peace route. And, of course, he also
misread Bush's gradual ability to learn; after all,
even worms eventually operantly learn through aversive
conditioning!
Bush might indeed be smart enough to realize that the
Iranians realize that once they have nukes they have
to behave because they are now in the same "M.A.D."
relationship with their nuclear neighbors as the US
was with the USSR during the Cold War. So it is not
far fetched to expect Iran to join the mini-nukes club
with China, India, Pakistan, Israel, England, France
and North Korea. All these guys know that if they
misbehave-- given their instant "fry capacity"-- they
will now be taken very seriously. And THAT is why
Israel will not try to save the predictive "scoop"
career of our great reporter, Seymour Hersh by making
his prediction come true. To do so is to invite
instant and unstoppable retaliation!
In 2000 the neocons provided GW Bush the seed money
that he could not obtain for his presidential
primaries campaign from the Republican corporate
establishment. Cheney worked out for him a symbiosis
with the neocons. In return, taking on Rumsfeld (the
desperate: I'll do anything to become president
geriatric to who the neocons promised the presidency
if Bush screws up) and loading the Pentagon with
neocons freaks and Israeli operatives, Bush sold his
soul-- or whatever else he has between his ears-- for
a couple of millions $$$ campaign money. But now, he
needs them no more-- Mephistopheles has been cheated
again-- and, despite the current Cheney-Rumsfeld
attempted coup, Bush will seek to undo the first term
mess he made in the Middle East. He is like Nixon,
realizing that the commitment in Asia was making us
unable to act in the Mideast, but in reverse.
Sharon, in turn, realizes that becoming the Nixon of
the Mideast and making peace will get him far, far
further than relying on Mars, the god of war and the
neocons-- he gradually learned what Netanyahu realized
when he read Perle et.al.'s crazy "A New Beginning."
God works in mysterious ways. Hence, we may see
something to smile about where we saw despair. All we
academics need to do now is to set aside our thirst
for revenge on Bush and try and help him and Condi NOT
make a mess of what may truly be a miracle--the
miracle of M.A.D. nuclear deterrence as in the Cold
War!Posted by Daniel E. Teodoru on 2005-01-31 15:37:40

And Shannon, it's the U.S. that supports Bin Laden... read a book.Posted by Korosh on 2005-01-11 21:11:28

Bush is a fool, and every fundamentalist in the world is a fool as well. For every single bomb that is dropped, for every person that is killed in the middle east, more terrorists are inevitably created. How do we keep safe here? Create an economically self-sufficient democracy in the U.S., by utilizing people of ALL races that are already here. Then our monies can be used to provide positive reinforcement where it is needed around the world. That will facilitate internal revolutions that will change governmental structures. Yes, it sounds idealistic, but it is not that difficult to tie off the loose ends of that philosophy.Posted by Korosh on 2005-01-11 20:58:43

axis of evil now- US,UK and Isreal.Posted by jai singh on 2004-12-07 00:52:23

I just wanted to let some of you US-haters know that even though the majority (51%) of people like Bush, that still leaves 49% of people who utterly hate him...like myself. I'm not saying Kerry would have been good...but after living with four years of the devil ruling (AKA Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice...) I wanted to give Kerry a shot.
A lot of smart people over here, who are globally aware and do hate US policy, are working to expose Bush's money tricks...because that is what his policy has been about...his own money.Posted by Ruby Star on 2004-11-29 17:01:34

Nobody speaks for me, be he/she a neocon Jew or an unquestioning advocate of Israel. There is no such thing as the "Jewish Community" but a diverse group of people sharing a cultural but neither religious nor political background. I am as shocked as anybody at the policies advocated by the Feiths, Ledeens, Perles, et al and do not excuse them on the basis of their being Jews. The fact of their serving as advisors of or liaison to any foreign government, particularly the racist government of Sharon and the Likud party is enough to disqualify them from serving our government. Imagine if officials had advised the South Africans on how to conquer Africa! The interests of the American people come first, and those interests do not include pre-emptive wars and the uniting of the whole world against us. If a war seems attractive, how about a real war on poverty, ignorance, disease, and the environment trashers?.Posted by Sol Cohen on 2004-11-29 07:58:56

By blue I mean that my state voted Kerry.
I've spent a lot of time trying to find the financial statistics of Iraq and Afghanistan. Whether or not the people in those countries wanted "liberating" it is VERY clear that Bush and Cheney (and the others in the administration) are getting rich off of Americans and Iraqis (and Afghanis). Haliburton, Dick Cheney's "former" company won ALL Iraq construction rights. The construction plan, in littler words, was given to one of the wealthiest countries in the US RATHER than several businesses or Iraqis. Furthermore, DICK CHENEY IS STILL ON THE HALIBURTON PAYROLL!!! The Carlyle group, where Georgie W was once a partner, also conducts business in Iraq, and you won't be surprised...the Carlyle group is currently in charge of all Iraqi oil. GEORGE W. BUSH IS STILL ON THE CARLYL GROUP PAYROLL!!! Ironic, or are they just robbing us blind!????
Perhaps people don't realize that middle class Americans are literally putting money into millionaire's pockets...so for all of you who think Bush is a "good Christian" you really need to check your moral standards...Bush takes way more than he gives.Posted by Ruby Star on 2004-11-17 16:30:36

Wow.... Shannon u are one stupid fuel tossing idiot. i dont care about sympathy! I dont believe terroism is the best way. Also IRAN IS A PLACE! AS A PLACE IT DOESNT MEAN THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE THERE SHOULD SUFFER. DUE TO PEOPLE LIKE Shannon WHICH DONT WANT TO DECIDE WHICH IS PEACEFUL OR TERRIOST! LOOK INTO THE MIRROR AND SHOUT EVIL TO UR SELF! EVIL SHOULDNT ME A LABEL USED but people like you like to use it? Terror? right er lets say u send missiles blowing up civilians, driving tanks down there roads. oooh that doesnt bring terror! that makes they see the flowers and dancing monkeys! maybe u should pick up and a gun and kill urself if u dont like terrorism. Armys are a weapon of terror. An bomber uses bombs to kill people. killing people causes terror. So what the diffance between a bomb which is with the carrier than the bombs used to drop on to places? Iran shouldnt be next! The as u call them 'terroists' should be next. Think of this! They are people, they travel, they walk on land. If they walked on to lets say America, should u blow up america as they walked accross the lands? Should u kill the hotel manger for seriving them? Should u kill the president for letting anyone into the country? Should u just go back into time and blow up earth? Seems like thats what u want to do shannon. Blow up the earth. since it never gonna be peaceful! Anyway there were terroist in Ireland. Americans were once terriosts to people of native americans. Maybe u didnt take in your history. But there always been terror in some what. Anyway everyone should be happy since America anit gonna be a super-power forever!Posted by Dave on 2004-11-16 10:53:23

Hey Ruby Star,
look at the political map...it was not just the South that won bush the election...and what about Ohio?
You are an idiot..
We know where Bush stands, unlike Kerry the flip flopper....tired of hearing that? Well I am tired of Kerrys BS and all the IDIOT LIBERALS who believe his shit.
He was a traitor...and Bush is a president in the middle of a war WE DID NOT START, you asshole. We were attacked and ANY nation state that supports any terrorism is a valid and legitimate target.
Thats the facts..Posted by Shannon on 2004-11-16 09:45:47

You need to wake up and get into the REAL world. IRAN should be next as they support terrorism and Bin Laden. They have nukes and only an idiot can not see what will happen if left unchecked. It amazes me how stupid you people are.
To the comment by Simon "bomb Israel"...I ask WTF? Is Israel sending suicide cowards to kill civilians? NO. Israel should wipe out Palestine forever. I have NO sympathy for people who support the killing of civilians. So Simon you are a complete dumbass. If it were up to you, you and the rest of the sheep would be speaking arabic. Stand up for what is right or get out of the USA's way.......like it or not we were attacked and we will destroy anyone who stands in our way..... All nations and rouge states who support terrorism be warned you are next.Posted by Shannon on 2004-11-16 09:28:38

It is very evident that the majority of Americans are inherently ignorant. How could we possibly elect an assassin to a second term? George W. Bush took all the southern states, where the number one issue was gay marriage. Many (confederates) believe that not letting homosexuals get married or have civil rights is more important than foreign relations, healthcare, education, the deficit/economy (the US deficit is now $680,000,000,000, over half a trillion dollars), and other important issues such as Iraq. Bush used fear tactics to make people believe that the only way to combat "terrorists" was to use violence, or as Bush calls it "democracy." Although Bush got 50% of the vote in this election the other 50% do not agree with him. Please don't hate educated humanitarians for our evil President's deeds. If you recall, he stole the 2000 election and only won this time because of fear.
I pray for peace. I am not a Christian.Posted by Ruby Star on 2004-11-03 14:44:09

It is very evident that the majority of Americans are inherently ignorant. How could we possibly elect an assassin to a second term? George W. Bush took all the southern states, where the number one issue was gay marriage. Many (confederates) believe that not letting homosexuals get married or have civil rights is more important than foreign relations, healthcare, education, the deficit/economy (the US deficit is now $680,000,000,000, over half a trillion dollars), and other important issues such as Iraq. Bush used fear tactics to make people believe that the only way to combat "terrorists" was to use violence, or as Bush calls it "democracy." Although Bush got 50% of the vote in this election the other 50% do not agree with him. Please don't hate educated humanitarians for our evil President's deeds. If you recall, he stole the 2000 election and only won this time because of fear.I pray for peace. I am not a Christian.

Posted by Ruby Star on 2004-11-03 14:44:09

Its Set! If bush wins then Iran will have war. War means death! Death to people who are in my family! I have family in Iran. Why is it that america can drag people into war which are not needed! Bush will go into war with most of the middle east? Will GB join in? Well yes we are closly connected with them! Israel wants power? Yea probly. Should we blow them up? No bombing them means fueling the fire? Unless you can hit them HARD and FAST. Blowing up Bush and most of his cabnet! And also the isreal government. We dont need to damage people who didnt cause war? Does soldiers follow orders? YES!Posted by Dave on 2004-11-03 03:25:09

Not all Americans support Bush, in fact many people think he is an idiot. Before we went into Iraq his approval rating was below 45%. Alot of people disagreed with him. In fact, a lot of Americans hate him just as much as you hate us. Please don't blame regular people for this idiot's actions.
Even though they say democracy is great, the people ARE NOT given a voice in government...our officials are put into power by big businesses and corporations that regular people cannot control. Granted we have more money than anyone else, but 90% of that money is owned by 10% of the people. Please pray that John Kerry is elected and can try to repair some of this mess. Peace to you allPosted by Ruby on 2004-10-23 09:32:26

GOOD. I hope Iran is next. And than I hope all you wing nuts explode. Cripes out loud.Posted by MM on 2004-10-16 11:22:52

all i know is i dont want to be drafted for something that is not my fight its the year of my 20th b day and that is the first people they pick and i'm poor so they would pick me first so thats what i have to say about thatPosted by jeremy butler on 2004-10-15 11:47:33

Please abolish all religions in the world. promote humanity. Religion is a blind belief of mad people. all religions are shitt and have flaws in them. so lets remove religion and forward humanity. this will stop all wars, control population, make people sensible. Lets work together for a better earth.Posted by sumank on 2004-10-14 22:31:15

Hello,
I have included some information (well website addresses that are of interest).
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video.htm
http://www.lunaville.com/blogging/
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story637.html
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/default.htm
http://www.mindspring.eu.com/
By the way...it is important to remember, that even though it has become fashionable to hear everyone talking about the U.S.A being the 'number one rogue state'....
...please do not forget that their is a particularly vicious colonialist state called Britain. England ceased to be a great power after World War Two, and had already been in decline prior to that period. However, the malice of the ruling elite (or indeed the people in this country) has not diminished since the era of colonialism. Remember also, the U.S.A fought Britain TWICE for its survival, and America learned it's 'trade' primarily for the evil British Empire which preceded it.Posted by Zaid on 2004-10-13 13:36:50

We only need Libertation of USA forces to free Iran. We are 70 million hostages in Iran. We need freedom as well.!Please free us as soon as possible. We look skys every day to see liberation planes over sky of Iran. !Iranian we do not have balls to over throw government of Iran. Only we need Mr Bush to show some more balls to free 70 million hostages as well.Posted by yazdi on 2004-10-10 14:21:15

Tom Barry´s article on Iran is nothing but the kind of garbage that arrogant, cultural imperialists westerners regurgitate to feed their own warped need for self-loathing. You guys figure, if you kept yourself nice and guilty sounding that you´ll be able to continue living in denial.
As an Iranian woman, activist, writer AND daughter of 75 year old Iranian journalist Siamak Pourzand who is currently a political prisoner in the hellacious prisons of the Islamic Republic of Mullahs, I suggest you stop speaking for us less and hearing from us more.
Do you really want to know WHY the world hates Americans so much? Because Americans willfully remain ignorant and are damn rude about it too...This article is a perfect example of you exercising your pomposity.Posted by Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi on 2004-10-07 13:25:05

Tom Barry´s article on Iran is nothing but the kind of garbage that arrogant, cultural imperialists westerners regurgitate to feed their own warped need for self-loathing. You guys figure, if you kept yourself nice and guilty sounding that you´ll be able to continue living in denial.

As an Iranian woman, activist, writer AND daughter of 75 year old Iranian journalist Siamak Pourzand who is currently a political prisoner in the hellacious prisons of the Islamic Republic of Mullahs, I suggest you stop speaking for us less and hearing from us more.

Do you really want to know WHY the world hates Americans so much? Because Americans willfully remain ignorant and are damn rude about it too...This article is a perfect example of you exercising your pomposity.

Posted by Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi on 2004-10-07 13:25:05

Tom Barry´s article on Iran is nothing but the kind of garbage that arrogant, cultural imperialists westerners regurgitate to feed their own warped need for self-loathing. You guys figure, if you kept yourself nice and guilty sounding that you´ll be able to continue living in denial.

As an Iranian woman, activist, writer AND daughter of 75 year old Iranian journalist Siamak Pourzand who is currently a political prisoner in the hellacious prisons of the Islamic Republic of Mullahs, I suggest you stop speaking for us less and hearing from us more.

Do you really want to know WHY the world hates Americans so much? Because Americans willfully remain ignorant and are damn rude about it too...This article is a perfect example of you exercising your pomposity.

Posted by Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi on 2004-10-07 13:25:05

The Zionist component of Washington policy-including a staggering array of key figures, and pressure groups-is so artfully obscured by the media as to be embarrasingly obvious. The problem with any legitimate criticism of Jewish power, and its undeniable strategies, and manipulations within our government is the resort to a blanket defense under the old stand-bye "anti-semitism". Lets take a minute and examine this worn-out line of defense...to the extent that we can isolate a specifically prejudicial political influence, operating out of an aggressive ethnocentrism, this influence not only invites legitimate criticism, but indeed deserves it...the noted Jewish state, and its remarkably unified supporters are the logical instigators of renewed anti-semitism...it is hardly an irrational prejudice, and its justifications are entirely defensible. Israel-by its actions-both regional, and here in the United States-is a ruthles, self-serving rogue-state that now poses a global threat in its all consuming ambitions. One need not engage in racist caricaturs to legitimately indict the tightly organized domestic support system for this monstous little state...Posted by Peter Robbins on 2004-10-06 07:01:56

When Jiang Zemin made a pact with Syria and Iran, it was recognized that Bush NWO policy allowed pre-emptive military intrusions against countries having oil but no nuclear weapons. Thus, Bush moved forward against Venezuela and Iraq. SenderBerl interpreted that if Bush could not even succeed in Venezuela then how could anyone in government pretend to believe that he could proceed successfully against Iraq. http://www.senderberl.com/
The bottom line is that by November 19, 2003, SenderBerl provided the formal assessment that a decision was made within a now divided NWO group that Bush could not be allowed to win in November 2004 because he did not accomplish his mission: controlling Iraq, Syria and Iran and consequently his remaining in office for a second term compromised the NWO agenda. This agenda is willing to take two steps forward and then one step back to consolidate when necessary. However, Bush and his oil cabal were unwilling to relinquish what they had tasted: control of Iraqi oil (second largest global reserves) and thus resisted acknowledging that since Bush failed in the full scope of his mission, that the agenda had to take a step back and allow another more accommodating NWO leader to take the reigns of power (Kerry).Posted by Azadi on 2004-10-03 11:03:27

http://www.senderberl.com/
When Jiang Zemin made a pact with Syria and Iran, it was recognized that Bush NWO policy allowed pre-emptive military intrusions against countries having oil but no nuclear weapons. Thus, Bush moved forward against Venezuela and Iraq. SenderBerl interpreted that if Bush could not even succeed in Venezuela then how could anyone in government pretend to believe that he could proceed successfully against Iraq.
The bottom line is that by November 19, 2003, SenderBerl provided the formal assessment that a decision was made within a now divided NWO group that Bush could not be allowed to win in November 2004 because he did not accomplish his mission: controlling Iraq, Syria and Iran and consequently his remaining in office for a second term compromised the NWO agenda. This agenda is willing to take two steps forward and then one step back to consolidate when necessary. However, Bush and his oil cabal were unwilling to relinquish what they had tasted: control of Iraqi oil (second largest global reserves) and thus resisted acknowledging that since Bush failed in the full scope of his mission, that the agenda had to take a step back and allow another more accommodating NWO leader to take the reigns of power (Kerry
SenderBerl's perspective was proven true in February 2004 when Bush appeared for a one hour TAPED interview on Meet the Press. His performance was horrid and the evidence was clear that the NWO leadership had given instructions to undermine him. This is what we noted at the time:
When we proffered on November 19, 2003, that the Democratic nominee would be the next President, knowing that Dean therefore had to be undermined, we could not have known how openly and evident they were going to be about it. It all started, as far as proving out point, on Feb 8th when Karl Rove did not yank the Meet the Press interview after the first fifteen minutes of the President's performance. Then came the 9-11 Commission posturing, with Condy Rice in the limelight, next came the position of supporting outsourcing of jobs, gay marriage, followed by Alan Greenspan on compromising Social Security. Now the ad campaign.
WASHINGTON, March 8 (UPI) -- Is Karl Rove the new Joe Trippi of U.S. politics: a supposed genius who turns out to be just a disastrously unrealistic dreamer when the real campaign starts? It's starting to look that way. Even Democratic Party insiders and Kerry campaign strategists have been bewildered at the passive silence and blundering slowness of the massive Republican Attack Machine to crank up and start countering their own powerful and highly effective blasts***Posted by Azadi Iran has nukes already? on 2004-10-03 10:50:26

from the Asia Times online Jun 26, 2003
Veteran neo-con advisor moves on Iran
By Jim Lobe
WASHINGTON - When The Washington Post published a list of the people whom Karl Rove, President George W Bush's closest advisor, regularly consults for advice outside the administration, foreign policy veterans were shocked when Michael Ledeen popped up as the only full-time international affairs analyst.
. . .
"When I saw that, I couldn't believe it," said one retired senior diplomat. "But then again, with this administration, it seemed frighteningly plausible."
. . .
Michael A Ledeen, resident scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where he works closely with the better-known former chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle, has been a fixture of Washington's neo-conservative community for more than 20 years.
. . .
Along with Morris Amitay, a former top lobbyist for the most powerful pro-Israel lobby in Washington, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Ledeen has already co-founded a new group, called the Coalition for Democracy in Iran (CDI), which is pressing Congress to approve a pending bill that would, among other things, provide some US$50 million in aid to both exile groups and opposition forces in Iran.
. . .
Ledeen has been no less prolific in his organizational work, although, besides AEI - where he works with fellow foreign policy neo-cons Perle, former United Nations ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Joshua Muravchik and Reuel Marc Gerecht - his main institutional forum over the past 25 years has been the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs (JINSA), an activist group that promotes a strategic alliance between the United States and Israel.
He has also served on the board of the US Committee for a Free Lebanon and has taken an organizing role in CDI. His co-founder there, Amitay, also works for JINSA.
He is also close to key figures in the administration, particularly Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, Douglas Feith, whose pro-Likud politics he largely shares; Vice President Dick Cheney's powerful chief of staff, I Lewis Libby; and Elliott Abrams, the director for the Near East on the National Security Council. To that list can now apparently be added Rove, who is as close to Bush as it is possible to get.
Throughout his career, Ledeen has insisted that war and violence are integral parts of human nature and derided the notion that peace can be negotiated between two nations. He was a fierce opponent of the Oslo peace process. "I don't know of a case in history where peace has been accomplished in any way other than one side winning a war [and] imposing terms on the other side," he said two years ago.Posted by John Mitchell on 2004-10-02 09:44:34

After Iraq comes Iran. For sure if W. Bush has another four years to play with all those guns. And no, Iran will not be able to stop it, but afterwards you get a guerilla war that is a tenfold of what we are seeing in Iraq.
Then some facts:
One guy said something about Iranian airforce being able to win against the IAF and bomb Israeli facilities. Forget about it. They don't stand a chance.
In the past there were times that the Arab countries had superior weaponry ('48, 56,' 67 and '73) and the lost because of bad training and unskilled pilots. Now they don't even have superior weapons anymore. Face it: Israel can hit anything within range of their F16's and F18's and they probably will make it back unscratched. Just be thankfull they don't have F111 or something similar.
If we talk about chemical warfare, then Israel is the only country without a history of that. Egypt used it on Saudi Arabia in 1964 when defending Yemen. Iraq and Iran used it against each other. Syria is using it RIGHT NOW in Darfur. So, I think it is pretty logical that the Israel provides his people with protection against those weapons.
Btw, the US is the only country in the world that used both Chemicals and Nukes against civilians....
On democracy, openess and other things. To my knowledge, you can virtually go anywhere in Jerusalem as Christian, Jew or Muslim. You can visit any holy place you want, except those 300 Jewish/Christian places destroyed by Jordan in 1948.
On the other hand, for a non-Muslim to come even at 100 kms of Mekka means a certain death. It is simply NOT allowed. Strange, since Abraham set his first steps there meaning it is a sacred place also for Christians and Jews... at least, I would say so.
In Israel, I can ask for warrecords from 1948 or from 1967 or 1973. I can read 'm, copy them and quote them. Israelis use the international 30-years rule: after 30 years, everything is declassified. In surrounding countries NOTHING can be read or looked into. It is forbidden to even ask about those records.
About Palestian territorries: the problem here is that Palestinians sell their property to the one that offers the most money. In most cases this appears to be a jew, so a jew BUYS the house in the Westbank or Eastern Jerusalem. That is the big problem of 'm all: the Palestinians are sellling their rights and then start complaining on how the Jews enter their zone.... don't sell your stuff then, buddy!
Bush says he is the better commander in chief, because he has a clear opinion on things. Well, so did Hitler. He even wrote it down in 1925 ....
About myself: I'm a non-believer from Holland, but I do a lot of research on things and therefore come in places and meet people. People call me a liberal, so I'm very keen on my own freedom and have an enormous ammount of respect for the freedom of my fellow human being.Posted by rudy on 2004-10-01 08:47:53

If people are today comparing Iraq to Vietnam, just wait until the battle front is in Iran. Unlike Saddam's Iraq, whose power the allies worked to erode ever since 1991, Iran has plenty of firepower at its disposal and a large population who will fight like mad against a US-led invasion. The deaths tolls both civilian and military will make those of Iraq and maybe even Vietnam seem moderate by comparison. And the added "benefit" will be generations of young jihadists ready to back al-Qaeda with their weapons and lives. Of course, the "benefit" will go to the religious perverts who hope to create a sharia-based caliphate stretching across Asia. Multiply the features of Taliban-ruled Afghanistan by 100, and ask yourself if invading a potent Islamic revolutionary state will make such an outcome less or more likely. It's bitterly ironic that the most totalitarian movement since the days of Mao and Stalin is being nourished by people who carry out their agendas in the name of "freedom". The neocon ideologues may think of Osama as their enemy, but in fact he never had better friends, because even if they catch or kill him, their actions even now are helping to bring his terrible vision to reality. How much more so if they widen their illegitimate war?Posted by Kuya on 2004-09-30 23:43:57

For all of you naive enthusiasts. Get the magnifying glass. You don't need no microscope!
Examine the american flag with that glass. What you will see that stars on that star-spangled thing are actually tiny 6-pointed "Dovid mogens"
America IS Israel, and a part of Global World Israel. America is BODY and feeding grounds, and mother's womb for that world entity. State of Israel proper is its head, and iron fists. World jewry is its brains, and mouth.
What is good for Israel is good for America, and, therefore, for the rest of the world. Not the other way around.
About my presidential preferences:
1. If W reselected - we will have 4 more years of disasters, catastrophes, falling apart, and then we will be reborn from shamblees new, sane, and redefined (catarsys). Examples - Empirial failures and new countries born 1848, 1918, 1945
2. If JFK chosen - we will have a complete disarray, and a confusion, and a paralysis of power with pro-Bush voters blocking his moves, anti-Bush voters indifferent, or hostile to his moves, and anti-Israeli population of America being hostile toward his heavy pro-Israel agenda.
Which gives :
Weak, impotent, corrupt government of JFK versus reckless, brazenly self-confident, and brainless government of W. Which choice would I prefer - to live under powerless decay and corruption of one, or to live to see the end of the republic under the other? Tough choice.Posted by goerge on 2004-09-30 22:49:31

The question is how we can stop these people to further harm us.
Also the connection and collaboration of neocons with terrorist groups like MEK makes them as good as terrorist it self.Posted by Koorosh Arfaian on 2004-09-30 20:58:38

I am absolutley sick of this shit about saying that Kerry is going to be any better than Bush b/c he is not!! Kerry still wants corporate welfare! Kerry will not make health care available for all Americans! Kerry will not end the illegal war in Iraq!! Kerry supported the PATRIOT ACT!!!! Kerry will not end the large number of US jobs going overseas, for his corporate masters will never let him! Kerry showed his belief that reinstituting the draft might be a good idea!!! Kerry does not support a living wage for all Americans!!! Kerry’s platform hardly mentions education or womens rights!!!
Come on people I am a loyal reader of this site and I am sick of the bullshit! Why do so many of us follow Kerry blindly?? We know that Ralph Nader holds our beliefs and is the true candidate. We know that Ralph Nader is the anti-war candidate! We know that Ralph Nader is the womens rights candidate! We know that Ralph Nader is the peoples candidate!
I will never put my hope behind a corporate whore like Kerry and I wish that you dont either!
Whether Nader in 04 or Nader in 08 or Nader in 2012 or 2016 or 2020 he will eventually change this country and we must stand behind him!
Nader is the only chance we have leftPosted by Richard on 2004-09-30 20:35:58

USA is police state, Iran is a police state. Revolutionary guards kidnap you or kill you.USA we have violent police which are facist in nature as well.We have Khamanaie is facist and fentatical, we have Mr Bush fentatical and fascist. There is no difference between Iran and USA. Both nations have no freedom and if you talk you will be go to gutanumo bay or in Iran go to Evin prision.Facism is Fascism wheather is done by Ayatoolah or Bush.Regime change in USA and Iran is a must.Whether world war III is coming soon and global facisim we have yet to witness.Bush and Ayatoolahs are good friends of each other like uncle Saddam. Bush Loves Saddam and Ayatoolahs .Democracy is gone from face of world. Can you send Mr Bush in to World court for crime against humanity ? NO , Can you take Ayatoolahs to world court for crime against humanity ? NO ...SO Americans are stupid in politics and theier lives got worst worst and unemployment is high in both USA and Iran.What is solution. I predict a Civil War for USA and Iran soon by 2005? Solution is to tkae country back? Iranian will get thier country back and Americans will take country back , no more Mexicans in USA which took most of jobs from Americans.No more Afghanis in Iran so the jobs go back to Iranians.http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd66.htmhttp://www.debka.com/ http://www.rense.com ,
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com visit truth is out there.Posted by Violet on 2004-09-30 14:01:48

If we attack iran, we will have to start the draft up to get people to go. It won't take long for americans to get tired of war. The war we are in now cost a billion dollars a week, and kills 1200 american soldiers every year and a half. How much is iran going to cost.Posted by v.p. on 2004-09-30 12:34:26

Incredible. All of the world’s problems can be traced to Islamist or Jew or country (USA).
It’s not about power games being played at unimaginable levels as you type on your computer in your little section of the world diagnosing the problems of a troubled humanity across the globe.
Imagine that! The entire world’s problems identified with a few keystrokes.
News flash! Hitler had “successfully contained” the “Jewish Threat” to Germany and he still lost the war. By the rational of some of you useless sacks of water, Hitler should have won the war because Germany for all intents and purposes was “Jew Free”. He was not victorious because he was striving for power. Now, we have the Fourth Reich. The power structure of America. If America falls (Americans still have a chance to save their country, but the window of opportunity is quickly closing) the power structure will simply move to another country and the problems will start all over again.
Nothing but a few rowdy sheep here at this place. Sheep,thinking they are wolves, posting on an internet website. Self proclaimed "Activists."
If the west falls, they will take everyone they can with them. It’ll be a long, long way to the ground. That’s reality my friends.
Who’s going to listen to the bitching when there’s no power to turn on your PC? When there’s not enough food to survive? When there is no warmth for the winter?
If you’ve got a problem with the way things are going do something about it. The author used his journalist skills to write an article and bring it to everyone's attention. Now it’s your turn. Become involved in YOUR community.
Otherwise your words are just hollow bleating from a wannabe wolf.
Off to the slaughterhouse you go, little sheep.
First, let's see your arm.
You need your number tattoo.Posted by Just Another Human on 2004-09-30 10:08:43

I have one question. Where are we going to get the soldiers to perform this task? If articles you have printed in "In Our Times" are true, then where are we going to get the soldiers to do this?
On top of that, our equipment is not as invincible as we have boasted about.
We better do some thinking on this matter.Posted by Herbert Keltsch on 2004-09-30 09:02:17

ps. i think its high time we bombed the fuck out of israel. saddam violates one or two UN resolutions and his country is bombed into the stonage with, now, 410+ tonnes of DU bombs..... and israel violates 40+ resolutions and the west gives them billions of dollars and military equipment every year??!?! WTF...
2 greatest "rogue states": USA & IsraelPosted by Simon on 2004-09-30 08:51:08

man... you people suck. all of you!
fistly, none of you have the right to criticise islam as a political ideology. it has existed as such for 1400 years. read some history people....the only time jews, christians and muslims have lived together in relative peace in the middle east, yes, including palestine was under islamic law.
secondly, who the hell are any of you people to accuse fledgling nations of anything?! what was america doing after its first 100 years or so? exterminating the american indians, fighting a civil war over slavery... etc.. you think a country that has had 400 years to sort out its problems after countless f@#$ups and attrocities, has the right to accuse a fledgling nation of 60-100 years of anything? what hypocrisy!
thirdly, take a look at what you're saying people. go invade iraq/iran/wherever.. give them democracy. LOOK AT YOUR OWN COUNTRIES! what the hell is the difference between bush and kerry? 4/5ths of f@#$ all! thats what! they'd both take your country to war, both get your sons and daughters killed, both put your country further in debt, both foster a culture of corporate war profiteering, both give away billions of dollars of tax payers money to israel: an ethnic cleansing racist apartheid state, in violation of 40+ UN resolutions, that is currently being run by a man who the supreme court of israel found "personally responsible" for the sabra and shatila massacres. AND BUSH CALLS SHARON A "MAN OF PEACE". PFFT!
i mean, i could talk about the way the war in iraq has totally destablised the country. the way that close to an estimated 40,000 iraqi's have died. if you thought september 11 was bad .. you know nothing. 3000 out of 300,000,000 isnt much compared to 40,000 out of 28,000,000. who is the greater terrorist? not only was the iraq war in violation of the UN charter, every reason that it was undertaken was a lie. a lie that has resulted in nothing short of a massacre. first it was WMD, then alqueda, then to remove saddam. everytime one of their lies got proven they just flip the script to some other Bulls!@#.
AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DICTATE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD HOW WE SHOULD RUN OUR COUNTRIES AND OUR LIVES?!
you're kidding me!
what you people fail to understand that democracy is an ILLUSION. the party that isnt in power bitches and moans about what is going on and what the incumbants are doing because its THEIR JOB TO, not because they REALLY disagree! 9 times out of 10 they'd do the same thing themselves if they were in the same position! all the US presidency is, is an elected emperor-ship.
seriously, before you deluded lamers start whinging about states in the middle east or islam or this or that... shut the HELL up and fix your own problems in(side) your own country and stop messing in other people lives and countries. i've never seen bigger hypocrites than the USA government. maybe if you werent proping up oppressive regimes and bombing people and stealing different nations oil at pittance prices because of your regional puppet dictators.... you wouldnt have terrorists trying to blow you up! maybe if you werent posting your troops on foreign soils in places where the entire nation dont want you there (including iraq.. check them polls).... you wouldnt have terrorists trying to blow you up! MAYBE if israel and the US between them werent responsible for the deaths of millions of arabs, noth christians and muslims.. you wouldnt have people trying to blow you up!
stop being such hypocritical tyrants and everyone would get along a lot better.
GO TO HELL USA! (for the record, my nation of birth can go to hell for joining you on a similar path)Posted by Simon on 2004-09-30 08:41:00

Dan:
Everytime America invades a country, ostensibly to introduce democracy, they leaves a right- wing dictatorship. The reality does not reflect your good intentions.
twainPosted by twain on 2004-09-30 05:31:09

"I am alarmed at the anti-Semitic character of many of the comments elicited by my article. Certainly the dual agendas of the right-wing U.S. and Israel governments need to be closely consideded in any examination of Middle East affairs." .......
Tom Barry.
Hey Tom post up the letter that the ADL sent you that would be better reading.Posted by Kolin Evans on 2004-09-30 02:20:19

Shalom. What is the problem with having Jews rule the world? This is the way it should be. Jews are more intelligent than any other denomination. Christ was a Jew, all christians are desendent of Judaism. Kneel down before the Jewish Zionist God.
Throughout history various races, religions and nations have 'ruled the world'. Eventually they all went down the shitter in some way or another. If Zionists ever rule the world, it won't last for long. Jews are more intelligent than any other denomination?: well, maybe that is true considering that they've been able to hang onto a dusty hunk of land in the middle east for 60 years, all the while fooling Americans into giving them charity and political support at the expense of its own reputation. Oh and Christ.. yeah he was a Jew.. but umm.. have you seen 'Passion of the Christ' yet?. Judaism has hardly accepted Jesus Christ, certainly not as their messiah.
Kneel down before the Jewish Zionist God. - I don't think it necessary to respond to that, it being such a stupid ass comment. Shalom!Posted by Adrian on 2004-09-29 22:24:28

I have been watching these developments carefully for a while and certain developments make me suspicious.
1. All the talk about Israel or the United States preempting Iran’s secret nuclear program seems a little more than back door diplomacy through the UN. Especially on the back of major intelligence failures in Iraq. Could this be a forewarning for the 1000 or so Russian nuclear scientist and construction workers to leave Iran? The idea would be to create as much fuss as possible using CNN, the UN and other NWO forums to scare them out. Although Israel would probably strike at night to avoided mass casualties.
2. They sale of long range F-16 or F-18 fighters to Israel. Of which they have received 100 or so with a couple hundred more on the way. All with the range ability to hit at Iran. Along with 500 2 ton bunker busting bomb and a couple of thousand additional bunker busting bombs. What’s all that for. O! And by the way the United States tax payer is flipping the bill again.
3. The Smoking Gun! Israel in the last 6 months or so has raised the possibility that there only nuclear reactor could have a melt down for any number of reasons. Well this has come to be a concern of Arab countries close to Israel and they have put monitoring devices on there border to detect radiation. Also Israel has supplied anti radiation pills to its population surrounding it's reactor.(100 Mile radius or so) Well this all seems a little funky to me because surely Israel one of the most advanced Countries in the world should be able to manage one stinking reactor shouldn't they? We have 20 or so here in Canada some really old located in high population area's they don't give us any pills.
So what's up with that? Well my guess is Israel is going to strike at Iran and they know that there is a possibility that Iran may be capable of destroying Israel's reactor. Most of Israel population is already geared up for Chemical and biological warfare because of Iraq. I guess Egypt and the rest of the Arab countries have already figured this out .Egypt could evacuate some of its population near Israel's border if need be. Or maybe even Gaza could become contaminated to such a degree that the Palestinians would have to flee to the Sinai. Hum! Maybe that’s the plan!
God help us all if this happens. This could be a major miscalculation by the Zionist and the Neocons.
Prediction $145 a barrel by next summer. You see this could open the door for the total destruction or major disruption of Mideast oil.
I'm talking Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Kingdoms here as possible revenge by Iran against the West.
As Iran will most certainly invade Iraq and the whole gulf region. Ancient Persia Reunited against the Zionists. What Arab countries are left to oppose them?
With Iran and Syria already fighting a proxy war against the United States and Israel it’s only a matter of time before it all blows up. With nothing left to lose the Arab’s may decided to drain the blood (Oil) from the West.Posted by Nick on 2004-09-29 20:00:39

People always says America should do something about bad goverment all around the world, i agree with that.
But what I see happening in the middle east is partly for oil and Israel. What america should do is be more even handed. they should Invade all nation that don't allow freedom, free speech. bet they would be greeted as libertors.Posted by dan on 2004-09-29 18:44:56

To Mr. Tom Barry. If you would please refer to my previous posting on your article, I would appreciate it greatly if you would tell me if you agree with my conclusions or not. Either way, your opinion would be greatly appreciated. I could use all of the educated input I can get before Election Day. The only thing I know right now is that Mr. Bush is not getting my vote. Thanks for a great, thought provoking article.Posted by Dr.D on 2004-09-29 16:20:12

I am alarmed at the anti-Semitic character of many of the comments elicited by my article. Certainly the dual agendas of the right-wing U.S. and Israel governments need to be closely consideded in any examination of Middle East affairs. Similarly, the close ties that many of the ideologues and strategists in the Bush administration have with the hardliners in Israel should be brought into the public debate. But this discussion also needs to note the following: the most politically powerful constituency for radical Zionism in this country are evangelical Christians; the small circle of neoconservatives, while largely right-wing Jews, also include prominent non-Jews such as William Bennett and James Woolsey; and that the highest officials in the Bush administration are such WASPy figures as Bush himself, Cheney, and Rumsfeld who represent a faction of the foreign policy elite that have opportunistically adopted neoconservative ideology, policy agendas, and delusions.
Any discussion of the new directions of U.S. foreign policy, particularly but not exclusively in the Middle East, must discuss the role of neocons, Zionism (of all stripes), and Israel. Unfortunately, outbursts of anti-Semitism skew such discussions in destructive ways,underscoring the neocon claims that all critiques of Israel and U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East emanate from deep wells of anti-Semitic political thought and emotion in this country.
It shouldn't need stating, but apparently it bears pointing out the obvious--that by no means do all Israelis or Jews support the militarist and imperialist ambitions of the Bush administration or the Likud party. Only among Biblical fundamentalists can "chosen people" ideologies--either U.S. Christian or Jewish--be assumed to form part of their core political outlook.Posted by Tom Barry on 2004-09-29 14:56:59

Shalom. What is the problem with having Jews rule the world? This is the way it should be. Jews are more intelligent than any other denomination. Christ was a Jew, all christians are desendent of Judaism. Kneel down before the Jewish Zionist God.
is that so? that explains why the jews have made israel such an economic powerhouse? this illegitimate state has violated more UN security council resolutions than any other country, kills innocent palestinians, occupies their territories, and then demands loyalty from them. how intelligent!! the political entity of zionism is bound to fail, and at the hands of none other than the arabs and muslims. sooner or later there will be another saladdin, and he will come after everyone who has ever harmed muslims. trust me, its not going to be pretty.Posted by daanish khan on 2004-09-29 14:19:34

The article and my pictures...
http://www.light-to-dark.com/cantata_evangelica.html
http://www.light-to-dark.com/neocon.html
...would have been great companions.
Regards,
StephenPosted by Stephen Pitt on 2004-09-29 10:01:03

Fellow citizens:
A few items for you to think about:
1 - read joe
http://www.joevialls.co.uk/
2 - read carol
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/
3 - read about Kerry's 'allegience' to zionistan
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/455102.html
4 - lookup what "am yisrael hai" means
5 - lookup masada and zionist cadets at mosada and what that 'oat of allegiance' means (or write to DNC and ask 'our' future president what it means!)
6 - watch it how "JFK" comes to life when talking about security of Israel
7 - Yes. On the Seventh day the Good Lord resteth. But, I suggest that it may be best for you to sit down and 'think'.Posted by NAC on 2004-09-29 09:50:48

Thank you for your expose. Judging from some of the posts, many of your readers share my sense of revulsion and horror at seeing our country get hijacked by a bunch of right wing Jews masquerading as "conservatives". If they felt so strong about Israel, maybe they should send their sons and daughters to fight in Iraq and whatever war the crazies like Feith and Wolfewicz and Libby and Pearle have planned next. But, of course--they're too smart for this--this is why they use our sons and daughters as proxies to advance their agenda without risking their own blood. As a former supporter of Israel, I am glad some courageous people like yourself and Patrick Buchanan and Scotter Ritter had the guts to expose this incredible conspiracy(I used to laugh at suggestions of a jewish conspiracy as something the crazies were obsessed with, but no more---I now realize that the Jewish conspiracy is the gravest danger to the American way of life this nation has faced in a long time). I don't think the neocons realize this, but by denying the presence of a jewish conspiracy and playing the anti-semitism card only confirms more and more the presence of this conspiracy.
WFPosted by WF on 2004-09-29 09:36:52

George Bush has divided America. The people who support Bush do not read deep into the misdealings, hidden agenda, lies and historical perspective from this current adminstration. Bush feeds his agenda thru sound bites. The Bush following is made up of Americans who watch the flash news and do not take the time to read how Bush has mismanaged the responsibility of the President. His greatest lie has cost over a 1,000 American soldiers and over 20,000 Iraq non-combants, including children. If Bush is a beliver in Jesus, Jesus would not order over (and counting)1,000 deaths. Bush has dishonored the Twin Towers deaths by running away from the true fight with Osama. The fight has shifted from terrorist to nation building, which has cost over $200 billion of tax paper money and a free pass for Osama. The Bush adminstration has pited Americans vs. Americans.Posted by Jake Luce on 2004-09-29 09:31:34

Check out this link:
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD79104
which shows Saudi attitudes toward Jews. The above posters would feel right at home in this totalitarian nation - except for the fact that they would kill you socialist moral relativists for your views on drugs, homosexuality, religion, etc.
When these Islamic fascist wild animals are done with the Jews they will come for you next - off with your heads!Posted by BRIAN on 2004-09-29 08:53:08

I say Hooray for the plans to attack the fascist-Islamic-terrorist state of Iran. The socialists who decried the Iraq operation in the war on terror used to point to Iran as a more suitable target for their known activities. Now, however, when their cries are possibly being answered, they pull a John Kerry (that's a demagogic flip-flop in contradiction of the facts they themselves purport). Explain to me why this nation, Syria, and the Palestinians should be excluded; this Catholic simply cannot accept the above refusal to call an enemy an enemy.Posted by BRIAN on 2004-09-29 08:37:59

I seriously doubt that Kerry would push forth truly damaging doctrines like this. When you look at his political history, you see a series of "blunders", where Kerry has stumbled into investigations (of CIA-sponsored drug trade in Nicaragua, for example) that he got politically beat-up for. If a man does something that will damage his political career and future bids for power, it can only be for the reason that he thinks that it is right.Posted by Jmc on 2004-09-29 06:41:04

what's all this fuss about the great america going into self-desruction for obeying israeli wishes? israel will finally control the whole mid-east and its resourses on the expense of those stupid stupid stupid americans who voted the wimp.
you don't believe me?
who would you think stop the u.s. neocons from realising the zionist dream for greater israel or world domination?
osama? he's the boogie man remember?
so let's just sit around and watch tv for the latest war movie broadcasted live and pray that we would still be alive to watch the epilogue.Posted by aen rabion on 2004-09-29 05:51:26

It's a simple matter of economic math that the current United States system is closer than ever to destruction, ( I know people have been saying this for years).
but consider this.
NEVER in it's history has the USA had so much economic competition, the list is growing:
1.Russia (thank you President Putin)
Petroleum prices are on the up, with Russia's economy getting an upward push from it's already recovering sate. Putin just needs to keep on the course of smashing down on the big corruption and helping the small business.(my hero)
2. China
Need I explain?
ok I will.
Massive is the only word I can think of, Industrial development, nationalization of energy resources, Hydro plans in works (all including car manufacture)Development on a scale that is total and impressive no matter from whom you are or from which race you descend.
Add this to the fact that there currency always being pegged undervalued to the US is shoring up the fact that they keep about 85% of all consumer exporting manufacturing for pretty much most of the world. (lay term... everything is made in china).
3. EU
now the official biggest market place out stepping the USA with it's expansion plans, they need organising and are probably the weakest but ironically with a great potential.
4. The pressure and drain of a protracted and expensive war. and wars, the psychology of expansion when pressured. (you have to respect that in many ways)
you see once the United States owned all of this Pie now they have to share. or get used to having less, neither of which they will choose. "so we get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it well, he gets it."
What I’m trying to say is as a grasp for final power we may all be looking down the barrel of another big war.
Because the USA increasingly has nothing to lose.
Think of itPosted by Kolin Evans on 2004-09-29 05:08:22

Dear Sir assalamoalaikum,
It,s not to kill all the enemies of Israel one by one but the problem is with the Muslim they are not united against state terrorism till we have our coward leaders but one day they have to unite.Syria and Iran to attack will good just to increase the misfortunes for the Americans.In short term we will be looser but on the end of the day Israelis wil have to pay.The war on terrorism i.e. Islam will increase and will dominate the world politics and could last almost 20-30 years because if you look the West made a problem with Eastern Europe almost 25 years and now they have a new and old enemy Islam.West changes it,s face according to marckets.Posted by ikramghouri on 2004-09-29 04:39:00

The "leak" of the 'investigation' of the traitors who are spying on America and who are using forged documents to con the UN was done deliberately because Bush was having so much bad news that his numbers were collapsing.
Note how he has "surged" in the last three weeks, post this "leak" about the neo cons!
The owners of our major media, many of them are Jewish and pro Israel. They basically were told, you keep up the anti Bush coverage, we will put these neo cons in prison for life.
So, to protect these guys, the media turned on Kerry with a vengence. This is why the "Bush cheering crowds" are shown yet the much bigger crowds cheering Kerry are hidden from view.
This is why a flood of biased polls which basically poll only Republicans have been used to show Bush has "bounce".
This is why Dan Rather who famously supported Bush in the past, very heavily, was used as the conduit of a piece of forgery that Rove passed through the deluded man, Barnett (I KNOW BARNETT PERSONALLY) to smear those of us who have researched the Bush AWOL years, this was a set up to stop any investigations or questions about Bush's past crimes.
The Hubbert Oil Peak is just about here. We are caught in a trap of our own making. We have very little to sell to China which has been buying up our factories and raw materials. Even with us stripping our own country, we are running out of things the Chinese want to buy....except for oil.
If we control the sale of oil from the Middle East, we can recapture the dollars flowing in a vast tidal wave to China. The Chinese will turn around and buy oil from us!
The Chinese will let us bleed ourselves to death, trying to steal the profits from the oil in the Middle East.
I see WWIII and the Apocalypse rising out of this horrible battle for oil. Alas.Posted by Elaine Supkis on 2004-09-29 03:54:33

Americans have had 4 yrs. to see bush for what he is, and never in my life have I seen so many people be so dumb for so long. The tragedy of all this is our wonderful country going down the conservative toilette. Hitler said the bigger the lie the more people will belive it. The war on terror, what a joke. Why not have a war on lieing politicians, or a war on greed, or facisim? Regarding all this, bush will institute the draft go into Iran, Syria, and trigger a global conflict. God help America and all the world from this wretched piece of flesh.Posted by Larry Henry on 2004-09-29 03:47:01

Please remember that the objective is "A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" "Israel" not America. The question is if securing Israel requires weakening of America what will those pundits do. Take a guess - this is not a hypothetical question, it is real. Israel needs to weaken America (militarily and economically) for two reasons.
1- Israel needs the American Jewish population to immigrate to Israel to balance the demographic position against the Palestinian and to pursue it is dream of greater Israel.
2- Israel cannot take the steps to conquer the oil fields in the Arab gulf and control the world economy if America is strong. America needs to be weakened by get it involved in a war it can't win and will drawn it is resources (war in terror)
A lot of politician in the states knows these agendas but nobody is daring to challenge them. Too bad for America and the whole world.Posted by s s on 2004-09-29 03:04:30

thank you sir for this article.the pro israel neocons care only to serve israel by making America fight Israel's enemies.they dont care how many americans die or how much it cost.
the biggest threat to america is not alqaida,islam or anything like that.the biggest threat is israel and its espianoge and spy network in america which the neocons are a part of.Posted by ahmed on 2004-09-29 01:31:14

It is unfortunate that majority of beings on this planet must learn the hard way. Yes, Iran is next! Bush will win presidential election! There will be more liberators (you call them terrorists but I dont) attacks. Next years will bring more deaths, pain, suffering, children cries and huge amounts of money on private bank accounts.
I think the liberators should concentrate their efforts and firepower not on people (although their military power dont care), but on OIL infrastructure and reserves. Their black gold!
Then, when the western world is on their knees, those stupid people will maybe see the real reason of worldwide terrorism: GREED AND POVERTY!Posted by bringereroflight on 2004-09-29 01:18:26

We have DR Ahura Yazdi that promised to free iran on OCT 1st http://www.ahura.info/about/yazdi.html
Dr. Yazdi returns home on October 1, 2004 to celebrate the “Mehregan Festival” and is inviting all Iranians to go with him to remove the Terrorist Regime using Good Words, Good Thoughts and Good Deeds and to launch a Free, Open and Democratic referendum.
In 1979 when the Islamic regime got power in Iran a dark cloud covered the happiness of the Iranians and even the “Mehregan Festival” was taken away from them. It was a beginning of hate and terror, an end to love and happiness…
For 25 years the Iranians, whether in Iran or abroad, have been suffering under this Islamic regime. A regime that should never have existed!
It’s time to give Iran and its people back their freedom, their life and their happiness. The dark cloud that has been covering Iran for 25 years has to make place for sunshine and brightness!
There is no better way to achieve this goal than to free Iran by the Iranians themselves by using good words, good thoughts and good deeds. Iran will have its “Mehregan festival” back and an end will be made to the current dominant Islamic regime. This year on October 1st Iranians will not just celebrate “Mehregan festival” they will also celebrate the beginning of a new life!
A life of freedom, happiness and laughter!!
If Dr Yazdi unable to free Iran then we have no issues to attack Iran and Ayatoollahs for freedom of Iranians.We youths of Iran will support of that indeed.Posted by Reza Khan on 2004-09-29 00:18:59

Republi-Con Artist (def.) Someone in a particular political party who believes they can fool all the people all of the time...especially if a cowed news media aids and abets.
Neo-Con Artist (def.) A master-level Republi-Con Artist who seeks to "fool all the people all of the time" and pass it off as somehow helping the people...while at the same time the people are having their pockets picked. (see Serial Spinner, Master Magician, Karl Rove, Moriarty, every Neo-Con Artist mentioned in Tom Barry's superb "Is Iran Next?" article, entire list of Who's Who in the Republicon Party).
Republi-cancer (def) a near fatal disease associated with falling for the the Republi-Con Artist and Neo-Con Artist spin. Causes Brain Rot, medically speaking. Only known cure is "The Truth." WARNING: Republi-cancer is contagious and spreads rapidly if anti-toxin not administered immediately following exposure. Often leads to death and destruction. (see "Iran: Another Ground Zero," 9/11 report, Iraq War, AID's funding, Medicare, Halliburton, Oil Cartels, etc., etc.) (Note: a comprehensive list is available in 666-page appendix).Posted by Paul Sorrells on 2004-09-29 00:05:35

We need the word of truth in government brought out no matter which party it is against. This is the only real democracy but it is going down the drain as individuals can not elect the people that run this country. They are appointed by the people we do vote for and then they change what they say they stand for. Remember what Bush ran his political campaign on? Not like the position he has us in now, and what a mess we will be in for years. Even if things change drastically soon.Posted by Keith Bower on 2004-09-28 23:19:57

Is Iran Next ?
On another web site, which I visit, this same question was asked. It was close to a year ago and it was asked in the form of a poll. Four specific countries were listed and Iran and Syria place first and second. I had chosen Iran but I think much will depend on the wishes of Israel. Saudi Arabia sells a tremendous amount of crude oil to the US and in turn buys the bulk of their armament from this US; this should keep them safe, for the time being.
Since George 1 was the US delegate to the UN (working under Kissinger I believe) the US has weakened the UN to where it is now a shadow of what it should have been. Dating from the early seventies, the US has shown that with it's armament, allies are not really needed. George 11 has done whatever he wants or is told to by decision makers.
Prior to WW 2, Hermann Goerring said that it was very easy to make young men go to war and in this day and age, can anyone argue that point. Should the US need an excuse for invading Iran, there is always Lockerbie. The Jim Swire report makes it very clear why Iran destroyed Pan-Am 103 and also that George 1 knew.
Obviously I am not an American and some may label me "anti American"; this I am not. I am an old, retired truck driver who has come into close contact with far too many good, wholesome, helpful Americans to be remotely anti. For a short time, I did wonder about your voting habits. The British voted Thatcher into office for twelve? years and the Canadians gave lyin brian mulroney two majorities. Mulroney was somewhat like Reagan regarding deficits; both promised to balance the books. I believe that Reagan tripled the US deficit in his first term and mulroney doubled the Canadian deficit in three short years.
The polls regarding the Presidential race, are most disheartening and so is the slanted reporting by your three major networks. To-day I watched "ABC news". I was struck by the fact that Bush always appeared with a cheering crowd and Kerry was always seen talking with one or two people.
Yours is the only nation in the world which could bring world peace....please do it.
BTW...Your declaration of Independence, whether borrowed or stolen from Arbroath, is REALLY worth reading.
twain.Posted by twain on 2004-09-28 16:42:50

bottom line whether it be Kerry or Bush who wins in November...this will happen. The agenda put forth and the pressure being put on zion supporters within US congress and the senate will assure that any item moved in regards to Iran will pass. Check out Tom Delay's website and you'll know what I mean. Know of any other countries leaders that display two flags instead of one?
The US will continue to lose international face the more it sides with the record holder in ignoring security council requests.Posted by Brian on 2004-09-28 15:11:59

If George W. Bush wins in November, He will take it as a mandate to impose his evil neocon agenda on the rest of the middle east. His corporate and elitist buddies are salivating, and they don't care about casualties; theirs or ours. We can only hope and pray that he loses. With that said, we can only hope and pray that John Kerry hasn't already agreed to carry on this evil agenda if he wins. I can only hope that Ralph Nader can get his views and ideas across to the general public despite being cut off at the knees at every opportunity by the corporate duopoly. I don't wish to vote for the lesser of two evils. Evil is still evilPosted by Dr.D on 2004-09-28 15:01:45