By fenian

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They have cured hiv before, by taking t-cells from people "immune" to hiv and using them it was an enormously expensive procedure, and it was thought that if they could somehow cheaply engineer such t-cells they could probably cure hiv.

Well the research has progressed very well, and now they have tested live t-cells in live mice and it has worked as suspected, the t-cells start to be produced in your body once introduced and start to wage war on the hiv, and as this happens your immune system returns to normal, so no ordinary bugs like the cold can kill you.

Other researches have made muscles produce t-cells to combat HIV, the hiv virus ignores muscle tissue and attacks your immune system, not knowing your muscles are now the immune system it knocks them back.

all things added up, hiv in the developed world will probably be gone in our life times.

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Warren's ban has also been a great step forward in the fight against HIV

Just kidding, mate :( see you when we see you.

when was he banned?

n what for?

jesus, its like a playschool in here, people telling on others over silly crap!

i thought the report feature was supposed to be used when someone made comments that were highly offensive, like somone ripping their religion t shreds, of racist comments, or threatening to publicly rape animals.

not because someone has a grudge against folk and uses it as a pathetic way to get one up, because they are not whitty enough to s,lag, them and win!

oh and on topic, they are trying to produce it cheaply so that they can sell it cheaply enought that most folk can buy it, but not so cheap as they wont make a tidy profit!

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Pin-Pin-Ire wrote:Talking about someone else's ban, is a banable offence as far as I am aware. I have the utmost good faith in the mods when it comes to bans, so it's best not to question their judgement :Thumbs:

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Pin-Pin-Ire wrote:Talking about someone else's ban, is a banable offence as far as I am aware. I have the utmost good faith in the mods when it comes to bans, so it's best not to question their judgement :Thumbs:

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Pin-Pin-Ire wrote:Talking about someone else's ban, is a banable offence as far as I am aware. I have the utmost good faith in the mods when it comes to bans, so it's best not to question their judgement :Thumbs:

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I wonder if that Scottish bloke was involved in this, he was diagnosed with HIV/Aids and restested etc came back positive. Only a few months later his immune system kicked serious butt and annihilated the entire infection, he initially refused to help in the research but eventually came around.

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ProjectVRD wrote:I wonder if that Scottish bloke was involved in this, he was diagnosed with HIV/Aids and restested etc came back positive. Only a few months later his immune system kicked serious butt and annihilated the entire infection, he initially refused to help in the research but eventually came around.

They know how that works, up to 30% of white people have a gene that helps them fight against HIV, it may not cure all 30% of the people but it will at least give them symptoms that are less.

1% of white people, have the gene twice, they got it from mum and dad, if you have the gene twice youre totally immune to hiv you cant catch it. (there are actually a lot of immune people).

This research actually goes back to someone who had HIV and leukemia, They were missing the gene, but they cured him by giving him a t-cell bone marrow transplant from someone who is immune. His hiv went away.

The reason this cure isnt used, is you need someone with a bone marrow match, you need someone immune and willing to transplant, and the operation carries a very very high risk of death for the person with HIV or indeed anyone getting the operation, 1/3 of people die.

When the guy was cured, they thought maybe if they engineered t-cells and just introduced them tot he body it would have the same sort of effect, and this research is showing that it does indeed.

The operation happened in germany, so I assume it wasnt the scottish person, but was a german who was immune.

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xElfenLied_US wrote:Too many cures, too many births, not enough deaths. Given 50 years and we'll be well on our way to running out of fuels.

That's exactly what I start thinking when I read these things, won't just be fuels though, it'll be everything, more people just always begats more people plus.

By the time that happens there will almost certainly be alternatives that are enviromentally friendly, there are lots of people out there that are already thinking of concepts and ideas for the future.

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Pin-Pin-Ire wrote:I can see this sadly being misused. Those in the Western World will probably get it easily but when it comes to third world countries, it will only be given to countries that have leaders backed by the west. Those countries that need it, and don't have a western backed government, will probably get little or no vaccine. :(

I hope that this is not the case, so I guess we will have to wait and see.

It certainly is less likely to reach people in African countries when there are AIDs-deniers amongst the top politicians.

We imagine South Africa as a more modern country, but their President was denying AIDs only 10 years ago - probably costing more than 300,000 deaths.