Just inside the door of my bus (MC-8), on the hinge (right) side there is a vertical grab handle, we always called them oh $#!% handles (curious to see how the word gets changed so as not to offend) to help people climb up into the bus.Has anyone removed one? What's involved? I wouldn't be tearing out that front radiator would I?

For this matter, the one on top of the dash, is that one any easier to get at?

Dave, why do you want to take them out? I don't have the one on the dash but do have the one by the door,...comes in handy sometimes when my back goes out. With your back problems you might want to keep it.

ED, I have a lighted one of the same length that I wanted to substitute. We often forget that vertical one inside the door is there so I thought lighting it and tying it in with the doorstep lighting would help. This new one is exactly or nearly exactly the same length so I think it should be a fairly easy swap...IF I can get the old one out. I climbed in under the spare tire area...everywhere but I can't see the mounts.

Get this! I picked up a lighted one for outside like we were discussing and that you have...........and promptly lost it. Michelle thinks she mistook the box and threw it away!!!

RJ is right about the access panels in front of the defroster core. I don't have a small door on the dash on my 5A as far as i know,......it is carpeted and i don't want to tear it off to see. You should be able to get to the back of them without too much problem. Too bad about tossing the other one.

I wish I had one on my 4106. Three weeks ago my wife was getting into our 4106 and lost her balance, with nothing on the dash to grab she fell backwards out of the bus. Lucky she only cut her arm very bad but it will be months before she is completely healed.

I built a small group of removable shelves right there out of oak. I can take it out and remove those 2 bolts and have to take out the bar. I put it back on after I covered the dash with vinyl but made it so I could still open the little door by the hinge. Also got a SS handicap rail 32" X 1-1/4" thick long and put it on the length of the door at an angle for getting in.Dave5Cs