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So KQET is available in HD for the Monterey DMA, but the station it is a repeater for, KQED, is not available in HD here in the San Francisco Bay Area DMA. Somehow I knew I'd get screwed by PBS.

The stations are licensed separately ... is KQET an exact copy (same on screen logos etc) or separately produced? (The websites are separate and the digital signals are different.)

Carrying WQET gives DISH another 100% HD market (KMCE does not have a HD signal as far as I can tell). Carrying WQED doesn't.

Of course it's personal to me! Why would you think otherwise?

Yep. They checked your account information and said "that's phrelin's market - don't carry the PBS". I kind of feel the same way about my market's PBS and CW at times ... so close to 100% carriage and yet so far away.

So KQET is available in HD for the Monterey DMA, but the station it is a repeater for, KQED, is not available in HD here in the San Francisco Bay Area DMA. Somehow I knew I'd get screwed by PBS.

Of course it's personal to me! Why would you think otherwise?

Maybe you should look at purchasing a local channels only package from your cable company or from DirectTV. I think probably either of those would get you KQED in HD. That could be a supplement to your Dish subscription. I think Dish has fallen behind on HD in the San Francisco market.

The stations are licensed separately ... is KQET an exact copy (same on screen logos etc) or separately produced? (The websites are separate and the digital signals are different.)

Supposedly after the merger of KQED and KTEH in 2007, KQET switched programming sources from KTEH to KQED and KQED's programming is just "simulcast" on KQET. However, I assume they do whatever the minimum would be required to maintain the appearance of a separate broadcast station to protect the asset value.

Since my mother died in 2005, we haven't spent any time in the Monterey Bay area so I don't know. I'd guess they don't produce any special programming. Maybe someone who lives in the Watsonville area would know.

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Supposedly after the merger of KQED and KTEH in 2007, KQET switched programming sources from KTEH to KQED and KQED's programming is just "simulcast" on KQET. However, I assume they do whatever the minimum would be required to maintain the appearance of a separate broadcast station to protect the asset value.

Since my mother died in 2005, we haven't spent any time in the Monterey Bay area so I don't know. I'd guess they don't produce any special programming. Maybe someone who lives in the Watsonville area would know.

I have been in Monterey recently and watched their programming. Their schedule does match KQED at all times that I watched. I could toggle between KQET and KQED on the tv I was watching. KQET even had the KQED logo on their program in the lower right corner.

Their website states that they have an office at Cal State Monterey Bay. Their subchannel is listed as a mirror of KTEH. Check out kqet.com.

In Monterey, KQED, KQET, and KTEH are all widely viewed, although only KQET is carried by Dish. KQED and KTEH are carried on cable. Also, in the 1960s and 1970s both KTEH and KQED had translator facilities serving Monterey. The translator stations were located on Mt. Toro.

I could toggle between KQET and KQED on the tv I was watching. KQET even had the KQED logo on their program in the lower right corner.

The spotbeam KQET is on (129° 13s32) should be large enough to cover KQED's market ... my thought is that DISH could use the same feed to provide that PBS to both markets. As long as there was no difference in the feeds I don't see where any law would prevent DISH from using the same feed twice. Although that would require creative thinking on DISH's part.

James, First my apologies if this has already been answered but is there a Rule for short markets in regards to HD? DN has my locals for south Miss. and we use NOLA or Mobile,Al (depending on location) to complete the market. Dish obviously carries NOLA Channels in HD but I only get them in SD?... Is this because they are *SV?? I can easily get the 3 Miss stations in HD via OTA but NOLA is a stretch for antenna-(Before DN had any of my locals I tried several different antennas and could never get NOLA on OTA that was reliable) I know Dtv offers complete market in HD using same channels so maybe its coming....

James, First my apologies if this has already been answered but is there a Rule for short markets in regards to HD? DN has my locals for south Miss. and we use NOLA or Mobile,Al (depending on location) to complete the market. Dish obviously carries NOLA Channels in HD but I only get them in SD?... Is this because they are *SV??

DISH is using those channels to fill in for two networks that are not available via affiliates in your market. Since your in market affiliates are not carried in HD, DISH doesn't import HD channels.

I don't see any law preventing DISH from carrying those out of market channels in HD but there isn't one requiring it either. It is a simple business decision. If they would have chosen the HD feeds we'd be reading posts questioning why out of market stations were in HD and in market stations were not.

DISH is using those channels to fill in for two networks that are not available via affiliates in your market. Since your in market affiliates are not carried in HD, DISH doesn't import HD channels.

I don't see any law preventing DISH from carrying those out of market channels in HD but there isn't one requiring it either. It is a simple business decision. If they would have chosen the HD feeds we'd be reading posts questioning why out of market stations were in HD and in market stations were not.

Very True...I was just hoping i could get the Local channels avail in HD like any other channel in my pkg. thanks to you and scooper for the info.

is no longer PBS, but an independent non-profit now (this is also incorrect on Dish website, but this is an interesting one because it was the biggest LA PBS when Dish was doing the PBS HD adds). So, it got added.

Interestingly, Dish network is missing KMEX in HD on their website even though they offer it. Not sure why.