I recently had an idea, where I'd make a baton-pass team that passed +6 speed and +6 of attack or special attack (as well as a few other things) to a Pokemon that's commonly seen by competitive players to be extremely weak, like magikarp or budew . Obviously there's a catch, and that's that the Pokemon has to be able to sweep, even under +6 boosts on speed and the offensive stat. I tried it once with magikarp, and once i managed to get +6 attack to it, it did 35% damage to Cresselia with bounce . I'll build the baton-pass team around the receiver I decided on. Anyone have any ideas who I can pass to as a joke but also to sweep the opponent's team?

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goldeen's a good idea, coz of how smash bros ridiculed it by giving it splash. maybe not focus sash, flail, coz of priority moves, but goldeen has about base 60 attack and speed, so at +6 attack and speed it can sweep with waterfall. thanks!

btw, any other suggestions would be welcome, in case goldeen fails

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Well, Goldeen worked quite well the only time that I used it successfully (i suck w/ baton pass teams). But it failed to OHKO Jirachi with Waterfall after +6 the second time, and it has considerably higher attack than Bidoof, so Bidoof wouldn't be that good. I'll try it out, anyway, thanks. Azurill only has slightly higher attack than Goldeen after Huge Power, but it has much worse moves (aside from STAB Return) and choice ain't too good for baton pass receivers. But I'll test it out in case I turn out to be full of sh**.

As a personal idea, what about Bagon? It has higher attack than Goldeen, STAB in Dragon Claw and Outrage, and has Fire Fang to get rid of that bloody Jirachi. Then there's also Cranidos, who has 125 base attack, and some good moves. Only problem is Cranidos doesn't give me as much satisfaction as sweeping OU with a Goldeen. Finally I thought of Meditite, which reaches 392 attack with Pure Power, only 13 less than Salamence, and can smash them with Brick Break, Psycho Cut, Ice Punch and Thunderpunch. What d'ya think?

(whatever u think, i'm trying them all out)

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I'm gonna try Bidoof and Azurill soon. Krabby already has a good reputation as a high attack LC poke, so it won't be very mocking sweeping with it. I'm definitely trying Trapinch, it has 100 base attack. Bagon failed (couldn't OHKO Bronzong), and it just didn't feel good enough sweeping with Cranidos and Meditite. I'll try special pokemon after physical ones, because i've already got a decent attack and speed passing team. As soon as my receiver can OHKO all of OU and BL, its going to the Rating Center

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why not try out the baby pokemon
i laugh at the though of a cleffa or igglybuff sweeping most of a team
pichu and riolu have already proven themselves so leave them alone
ninjask if it can live could be a great tonpasser gaining speed and your choice of move easy 3 speed and 6 attack if he lives for 3 turns

why not try out the baby pokemon
i laugh at the though of a cleffa or igglybuff sweeping most of a team
pichu and riolu have already proven themselves so leave them alone
ninjask if it can live could be a great tonpasser gaining speed and your choice of move easy 3 speed and 6 attack if he lives for 3 turns

Guts Tyrogue sounds fun, I'm trying that once I manage to succeed in setting up Trapinch. Most of the previous ones didn't have enough firepower. Spkeaing of Pichu, would a Light Ball Pikachu work? Light Ball also doubles Attack, and I could also annoy the opponent further by saying "pikachu iz da bestest poke evar!!!!1!11one1!!" but im worried that without focus sash, i'll have to use a substitute to stop it getting killed the moment it gets in. Any ideas for a subsitute passer? Right now I've got Vaporeon and Drifblim on my mind.

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Okay, a problem since I started with Goldeen has been priority moves, which makes substitute a must. Right now I have an Aero lead, Umbreon, Gliscor, Scizor, Jirachi and the receiver. Jirachi isn't part of the chain, it's a back-up sweeper that takes a few attack boosts after my receiver dies and then sweeps with scarf Iron Head. Should I replace the Aerodactyl or the Jirachi for Vaporeon?

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