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If I understand it, Version 4.1 is now compatible with Kaspersky? do I need to worry about exclusions?. I want the secondary protection of malwarebytes if at all possible. I caught a fileless malware from visiting a website the other day, and although Kasperky stopped it while in memory, I still wasted time as kaspersky used advanced processes to disinfect the computer. Then I had to reset my Chrome account to stop popups. Kaspersky worked well but I was a little irritated it allowed the exploit onto the machine to begin with.

Unless or until Malwarebytes and Kaspersky reach an agreement on compatibility, I have learned to just go with Kaspersky. I have several long term licenses available for malwarebytes and two of them are used on my daughters' apple computers. The others simply will lie inactive. I use windows though and I just don't think anything can beat Kaspersky for overall solid protection. I still use Malwarebytes free to scan but it never finds anything because I assume Kaspersky lets nothing in. I would love to use Malwarebytes as secondary protection, but if they are not compatible they are not compatible, so that is the way it goes I guess.

Thank you Exile. Can you keep us updated when there is compatibility again? For now, I am just going to go with Kaspersky, but would still prefer Malwarebytes too, not only as secondary, but because I noticed it warned about about and blocked exploits from some web pages that Kaspersky seemed to miss, or at least Malwarebytes detected the exploits first..
Thanks.

Same thing just happened to me. I uninstalled malwarebytes this time. No matter what I did in the past, no matter what exclusions I put in, Malwarebytes still was blocking kaspersky in some of its applications. They both seemed to be working okay anyway, and would like to continue using Malwarebytes...but not if somehow it impairs the performance of Kaspersky.

I have used every possible exclusion, but no matter what I have done I have to accept Kaspersky and Malwarebytes are not compatible per the attached screenshot. So my question is with Malwarebytes services being blocked by Kaspersky, is Malwarebytes doing me any good? All of the modules are green and appear to be functioning, and malwarebytes has blocked malicious websites on my computer. So what am I losing? If Malwarebytes is being blocked from doing its primary job, maybe I should simply remove it from my computer and live with Kaspersky by itself? I liked the secondary backup of malwarebytes....but if it can't do its job because it is blocked what is the point? I still use malwarebytes as primary on our apple computers which my daughters have. Any opinions?

The answer really comes down to what you want to protect imho. My daughters use only Malwarebytes on their macs...and that likely is good enough. But I would never rely solely on malwarebytes on my windows computer...why? because I use my computer for work and not only would downtime cost me money, but would make available confidential information for my clients. I can't and won't take that chance..so I use malwarebytes for secondary protection and rely on what I believe is the best security out there...kaspersky, with 30 levels of protection..far better than windows defender as far as I am concerned. Kaspersky also finds and eliminates most email malicious links which malwarebytes does not check. I.e., the issue is what is your risk if your security is breached. If it is simply a matter of having to reinstall your operating system, may not be that much of a big deal. If it is a matter of downtime and loss of confidential info...much bigger deal. I learned my lesson years ago when I relied only on Symantec endpoint, and then did not update the virus engine as the years went by, only updating the signature database.......penny wise pound foolish...that cost me a lot. Never again.

Exile, I will say one thing with the caveat that I know Kaspersky is a much larger company with far many more "experts" on its programming staff...but having been using it for years now....I never recall a time when an update caused a problem with my computer. Once a year I upload the new program, always flawlessly...other than that it updates itself behind the scenes. Just saying. Last January the issue with Malwarebytes is old news now, but caused quite a problem at the time, and then there was a small blip what, a month ago or so on some Win 7 computers?
There is nothing that hurts Malwarebytes reputation more than defective updates....seems to me Malwarebytes, even if it means a slower updating schedule, should do more testing on various platforms before actually releasing anything...........I still use Malwarebytes as secondary protection and put it on my daughters' macs as primary protection, so I am happy with the program...but I see where the OP is coming from.

Thanks folks...I do have advanced disinfection technology enabled in Kaspersky as well as rootkit scan and safe money. I am unwilling to turn any of these off...I use Safe Money all of the time, and not sure what advanced disinfection technology does, not a clear description on the web, but if it works on memory processes and prevents malware from taking hold, it is obviously important.
Interestingly, I went to this site to test malwarebytes web protection, ip block notification, http://iptest.malwarebytes.org and that seems to work on my computer too...see below...
So bottom line, I will keep using Kaspersky as my primary defense with all protections enabled and will keep using malwarebytes as secondary protection. Not sure what I am losing due to the Kaspersky blocks, but with its different layers, it must be doing something. It is a lifetime license I use, so its not costing me anything at this point. Thanks for your advice.

Really, If every computer user on the planet knows this, why don't the experts at malwarebytes know this?
Thank you exile, but I have to assume that HIPS is part of Kaspersky's "system watcher" and sure it can be turned off...but best as I can tell there is no way to exclude anything...anyway, that is the part of the program that protects malicious activity, like Ransomware, from infecting your computer ..stops it cold and rolls back the damages...so I guess I will continue using both and not worry about whatever Kaspersky is blocking. I know that Malwarebytes still works because it has prevented exploits in the past and has blocked me going to malicious websites...so I may not get full functionality out of it...but at least I get some...

The only detail I can come up with using Kaspersky is the attached. I have no idea if or how to figure out what role the firewall is playing....I suspect that Kaspersky will block memory processes no matter what is excluded due to the danger they pose..but I am speculating there.....

No matter what I have done exclusion wise, Kaspersky always blocks malwarebyte services on my win7 pro computer...attached are my exclusions and kaspersky report...if anybody has any suggestions... thanks. Otherwise, this has been going on forever, and I assume Kaspersky will continue blocking memory processes and Malwarebytes will still do what it is supposed to do in the background.

By the way, I do use Malwarebytes business anti exploit on the server and malwarebytes premium on the desktops as secondary protection. I feel comfortable that between the two programs...we will have no problems regardless of what the staff opens in email or not.

Thanks...interesting article and I will go with just Malwarebytes on the macs...but not on my windows computers.....The article says Windows defender is good enough supplanted with Malwarebytes...and that "But the best protection is layers and good habits:.......They can talk about good habits all they want...but I have an office with several staff members who will open up malicious but innocent looking email items no matter how much training they have. Before Kaspersky (sans malwarebytes), I used Symantec and before Symantec free AV programs...and managed to get infected no matter what program I was using. In one case, my secretary, even with Symantec End Point, managed to infect her computer so badly, it was being used as some sort of botnet to store hundreds of viruses....the infection made it over to our server and trashed the server too...never made it to my computer from the server though because Kaspersky cut off the network before any harm could be done. that was it...all computers in the office used Kaspersky Internet Security (or Kaspersky small office...same thing...as Kaspersky Total Security). Even with Kaspersky, my staff has opened up packed files and dropbox phishing mail that was not detected initially, but was stopped in its tracks by Kaspersky and then the damage rolled back. So this is the way I see it....the downtime from an infection can cost thousands of dollars...the investment in a top quality program like Kaspersky backed up by malwarebytes is a relatively minimal cost and other than the malwarebytes fiasco last January...my computers having been running smoothly since I adapted Kaspersky paid version a few years back....I do not trust Windows Defender to be as good as Kaspersky....the only other program I might consider for my windows computers would be Bitdefender...but since nothing has penetrated our computers since adapting Kaspersky backed up by malwarebytes...for windows that is what I am sticking with. I am not taking the chance of being hit with Ransomware etc...which I have no doubt Kaspersky has prevented several times in the last few years.

I have been using windows forever...and I use Malwarebytes premium on top of Kaspersky. Kaspersky provides firewall, mail scans, etc. protection and lets nothing through...and Malwarebytes I consider secondary protection just in case something gets by Kaspersky. And it has come in handly blocking rogue websites and exploits before detected by Kaspersky.
My daughters use Mac and have done so without any sort of malware protection. Recently I installed malwarebytes premium on their computers and it did, on a scan, detect four malware threats and quarantined them on my daughter's college computer, which she has been using for three years now. Not sure what the malware was, one of the threats had gibberish letters..
Which brings up the question.....is Malwarebytes for mac enough...I know mac has its own security superior to that of windows...and is not targeted like windows is, but lately I have been reading that mac is becoming more of a target. Also reading that malwarebytes for mac is lacking since it does not have a firewall and does not prevent phishing. I don't know if the issue about phishing is accurate, but I do know kaspersky on my windows computers has regularly prevented phishing...which lately seems to be very sophisticated...fake dropbox emails, fake shareone emails etc...and Kaspersky blocks these sites or prevents malicious downloads. I have some extra kaspersky licenses lying around, but don't want to activate them yet and waste them on the Mac if not necessary.
Opinions? Thanks.

Just in case this helps...something I noticed about my computer.... I have a Win 7 64 Pro myself...no freezes at all.
I just looked at my Kaspersky Report which I do once a week or so, and Kaspersky routinely blocks Malwarebytes from using memory processes...even though I have excluded Malwarebytes in Kaspersky and exlcuded kaspersky in Malwarebytes settings.
Perhaps therefore the memory processes which are not allowed to operate on my computer have something to do with this Freezing.
Just speculating here....but could be I suppose.

FWIW, I use Windows 7 Pro on my computer. I did not use my computer the last ten days of December, being on vacation, but upon returning in early January, I did not and have not noticed any Freezing problems, and I use my computer a lot. I did however notice some other issues...programs not working properly, etc, not able to access the web using I.E., error notices, etc. I used the software at Tweak.com to reset everything....and so far the computer seems to be working fine. I also ran an SFC /scannow scan and a have some corrupt and non-repairable files, and per Tweak.com, I also have a number of corrupt package files....still as long as the Computer works, I will avoid reinstalling Pro. I have no idea whether malwarebytes had anything to do with this...it keeps on working along with Kaspersky in the background.

Digmorcrusher....it depends which site you download it from. Some of the sites load it up with malware...I think the cleanest sites is the majorgeeks site.
Ghost....my malwarebytes blocked the backdoors.....so that no additional software could be downloaded to the computer....what Kaspersky did was to stop the malware in its tracks while it was starting to make changes to my registry entries, etc., eliminated the malware and rolled back all of the changes....so they worked in Unison. Of course if I didn't have malwarebytes, perhaps kaspersky would have blocked the backdoors itself. But I am not willing to experiment and find out :-)

Just for what it is worth, these imgburn download websites are all over the place..and i noticed the downloads are sometimes larger..sometimes smaller, depending on the website offering the download...the larger ones containing more malware. I have read the cleanest down load is on majorgeeks...but there is some sort of malware even in its download.
I leave it to you guys to decide if the many sites with this program should be flagged or not.....but its pretty bad when you can download a packed program that malwarebytes and antiviruses do not detect until you start installing and unpacking....and then find yourself possibly infested with all sorts of malware. I didn't even know malware in packed files was impervious to detection until I read about it after my near death experience :-)

I downloaded imgburn which I heard is a great program for burning ISOs from disks, ran both Kaspersky and Malwarebytes scans of the installation file and both scans indicated clean. Then executed the installation. After being unpacked...Kaspersky flagged as malicious, deleted the program and rolled back due to the damage caused by the malware. Malwarebytes at the same time blocked several websites the malware was apparently attempting to open some backdoors.
I feel stupid...not having uploaded to virus total like I usually do a file before executing...which after the fact was flagged by something like 27 or so virus engines out of 60..with all kinds of nasty malware names.
The point is this...imgburn may be a good product, but many download sites pack it with all kinds of adware, trojans, malware and who knows what else. So be careful from where you download your programs.
Still, between Kaspersky and Malwarebytes working in unison...the malware was stopped dead in its tracks, other websites blocked, the malware deleted and damage to files and registry entries rolled back.
The moral...Malwarebytes is a great program but still better to utilize in combination with another top ranked anti-virus protection. And any beware suspect programs run through total virus...when they are packed...the viruses cannot be detected until executed.

My wife and I have Windows computers. My daughters have Macs.......they have been going without any virus protection. . .. I though macs were pretty much impervious to virus problems....having a much more secure operating system than Windows. Anyway.....I put malwarebytes premium on my duaghter's Mac Probook because she was concerned and it quarantined four different malwares........Not sure what they were... at least one of them had a bunch of nonsensical numbers and letters...so we deleted from the system and now she is using Malwarebytes Premium. So the age old question....is Malwarebytes for Mac enough.
Parenthetically, on my Windows computers, I run Kaspersky and Malwarebytes premiums....too much bad experience with viruses and malware in the past...requiring several reinstalls over the years and my business being down for days at a time. Never again. Thanks.

I have windows 7 pro on my computer and don't even notice malwarebytes is working in the background unless it notifies me it blocked an exploit or a website....it scans at 3 A.M so that doesn't bother me either. I don't understand why so many people have so many differences with the impact of this program. I do know that if a program constantly gave me annoying messages....and there was no way to prevent, I would uninstall the program...problem solved. Ever since the January debacle, I have turned off automatic component updates...just to be sure there is no repeat...but other than that one horrid time, malwarebytes seems to be working flawlessly on my computer.

Its really a risk based analysis...if something gets by malwarebytes and you lose what is on your hard drive, how much pain will it cause you? Important docs and photos? Do you have everyhing backed up? I don't think there is any protection that is absolutely fool proof, but having Malwarebytes AND a major anti-virus program probably makes things about as foolproof as you can get them. Me, I use a paid major antivirus (Kaspersky internet security) and malwarebytes. Over the years, I have had too much down time after having gotten viruses. On my office computers, I used to rely on Symantec Endpoint...until a secretary somehow clicked on a link (apparently) and opened a door to her computer which led to the server......cost me much time and money and in the end, we still lost some important documents. Never again...and honestly, since installing Kaspersky and malwarebytes Premium, a few years now....nothing has successfully attacked our computers. And I will never run a program that does not scan email.....we run Kaspersky email on each computer at the hightest level.....and it is always blocking malicious links. Recently a sec opened what she thought was a dropbox doc from a local business entity. Kaspersky blocked cold whatever malware was trying to get on the system, which I surmize was some sort of Ransomware? Would malwarebytes also have blocked? probably...but why take the chance.

Well Ram, I get where you are coming from...two things though...
I have not had any problems with Malwarebytes since the January episode where it trashed my computer hard drive, requiring replacement. I was not happy about that and Malwarebytes and I did resolve the issue through a somewhat amicable resolution not requiring Malwarebytes to come up with any cash....... no big deal....point is you and others may have had problems but not all of us. All of my modules have been and are working since January. I have never had to disable anything on Malwarebytes.
Still, I would be much more concerned if Malwarebytes was my only protection but its not... I rely primarily on Kaspersky, especially for my office computer, where no matter how much I try to caution my secretaries, they still click on dangerous links. But Kaspersky mail scanner has caught most of those and those that got by the mail scanner were tagged by other Kaspersky modules.
And then there is Malwarebytes. Its there just in case...also it has blocked a few exploits and has blocked quite a few rogue websites not flagged by Kaspersky.
I still would not rely on Malwarebytes for primary protection, not compared to programs like Kaspersky, but I feel more secure having malwarebytes running in the background and plan to use it indefinitely...so long as another January never occurs.