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Re: Gary Johnson

Exactly, I vote for the best candidate. Not the candidate who has a good chance of winning that I hate the least.

Too many Americans will only vote for candidates they think can win...which speaks volumes about them as voters and why one medicore/lousy POTUS after another gets elected.

Remember America, if you vote for a candidate that wins and he/she ends up sucking and hurting America...you are partly to blame.

Exactly. As it is at the moment, Corpgov's two ruling factions have decided that Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton will be the two final candidates. Already many, many sheeple are trying to justify their support for one or the other. In their minds those candidates are the only two who have a chance at winning. Not the two best, not the people who actually might upset status quo and move the nation forward, but rather the two who have "the best chance of winning". That is not democracy. Those voters have already given up on democracy.

I vote for the person who best represents what I'd like to see in America.

Somedays I stop and ask myself if it is going to be worth the effort of chewing through the restraints.

Re: Gary Johnson

I voted for Johnson in 2012 and would vote for him again. In 2012 with the two major parties I lost faith in one candidate and didn't trust the other. In fact I do not trust either of the two major parties to do what is right for America. They are only interested in doing what is good for their party and to heck with everything else.

This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

Re: Gary Johnson

Originally Posted by ModerateGOP

I actually like most of the other choices, much more than Johnson. The dark horse last time around was Obama and he came from out of left field and over took Clinton...A Clinton!!! But he didn't run as a Green Party, he didn't run as a "socialist" or a Black liberation theologist. He ran as a Democrat and did all the right things to get respect from his party and now they love him and defend him to death.

Good for him.

No Libertarian I know of has done that to date in regards to the GOP.

Why should they? They are part of an entirely seperate political party. The GOP thinks they own libertarianism...it's actually quite amusing. Too bad that's not the case.

Since we are somehow the only people who would actually listen to some of your crazy ideas.

Bull****. There's plenty of libertarians that try to work through the Democratic Party. I would know, cause I'm one of them.

We welcome you in

Lulz.

The mess in 2012 on a county level was horrendous. Ask Alaska, Iowa, and Maine. They have just recently finished cleaning up your messes and the damages you did to the state. In fact, Libertarians are dead set against party leadership and quickly throws them under the bus every chance they get. Follow Obama's model and you win elections. Follow the one you've been doing for years, and you lose.

Yet, you guys think someone MORE radical than Barack Obama will be the change that changes things??? Lolz.

Yeah, follow Obama's model: Promise a bunch of crap, flake out and go through with next to none of it, run things no differently than your predecessor.

Re: Gary Johnson

Originally Posted by Risky Thicket

Exactly. As it is at the moment, Corpgov's two ruling factions have decided that Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton will be the two final candidates. Already many, many sheeple are trying to justify their support for one or the other. In their minds those candidates are the only two who have a chance at winning. Not the two best, not the people who actually might upset status quo and move the nation forward, but rather the two who have "the best chance of winning". That is not democracy. Those voters have already given up on democracy.

I vote for the person who best represents what I'd like to see in America.

Everyone on this board is missing Gov. Walker flying under the radar--just as Priebus wants him to .

Re: Gary Johnson

Originally Posted by Cephus

Ultimately, politics *IS* a horse race. The only one who matters is the one who comes in first. Libertarians have been voting libertarian for more than 40 years and they're not performing any better today, and in some ways they are performing worse, than they did 40 years ago. Yet a lot of them keep saying that voting third party will make a difference. When? In another 40 years? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

And the overwhelming vast majority of the voting populace always picks one of the "Big 2". Boy, that sure works out, doesn't it?

Roy L. Fuchs: I'll tell you something. This country is going to the dogs.
You know, it used to be when you bought a politician, that son of a bitch stayed bought.

Re: Gary Johnson

Originally Posted by azgreg

1.)I get that, but if we use the excuse that a 3rd party candidate can never win and therefore fail to vote for one who is legitimately qualified then it will never happen. As it stands now the popularity of the 2 party system seems to be at a all time low so now is a great opportunity to showcase a 3rd party candidate.

i agree, i didnt say no one should vote for him i was just pointing out him winning is virtually impossible in 2016.
Unfortunately, while its sad, i dont think the people will make that change on voting on a president alone.

Originally Posted by RamFel

Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.

Originally Posted by Hicup

homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.

Re: Gary Johnson

Originally Posted by ModerateGOP

I actually like most of the other choices, much more than Johnson. The dark horse last time around was Obama and he came from out of left field and over took Clinton...A Clinton!!! But he didn't run as a Green Party, he didn't run as a "socialist" or a Black liberation theologist. He ran as a Democrat and did all the right things to get respect from his party and now they love him and defend him to death. No Libertarian I know of has done that to date in regards to the GOP. Since we are somehow the only people who would actually listen to some of your crazy ideas. We welcome you in and you stab us in the back, every time. The mess in 2012 on a county level was horrendous. Ask Alaska, Iowa, and Maine. They have just recently finished cleaning up your messes and the damages you did to the state. In fact, Libertarians are dead set against party leadership and quickly throws them under the bus every chance they get. Follow Obama's model and you win elections. Follow the one you've been doing for years, and you lose.

Yet, you guys think someone MORE radical than Barack Obama will be the change that changes things??? Lolz.

This post is interesting because you're praising Obama's tactics but the GOP has done everything to prevent what Obama had done.