On the Academy - "speculation is encouraged"
Speculation is defined as : the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

I think it is important to understand the "context" of what is meant by "speculation is encouraged". As you will appreciate, the academy & flight safety section is all about encouraging flight safety and although accidents / incidents are reported and various details about these accidents / incidents will obviously emerge.

In the early days, we were then flooded with well meaning individuals who tried their very best to suppress any further information emerging, often requesting that all wait until CAA reports are released, etc..etc... before discussing things further, etc...

As you will appreciate, no learning will get done on that basis (as reports often take several month before being released) and the ideal time to help folks learn is to expose them to the reality of these unfortunate events and the possible causes (hence the "speculation is encouraged" scenario).

So the ideal is for avcomers to talk about what the potential causes are and what actions could avoid them - even if the discussion does not pivot strictly to the absolutes in each accident case - the thought provoking discussion emanating is what is expected to make many avcomers safer pilots by being exposed to this type of discussion. There are many highly experienced aviators and aeronautical engineers who often add invaluable input, etc...

The "speculation should be encouraged" was therefore never intended as a license to gossip or spread rumours, etc...etc...

Due to defamatory liability, it is therefore imperative that if one is going to make statements about a person or company, then ones facts need to be correct with backup evidence in case one finds oneself challenged legally - which is a very different scenario from an example as below:-

"In the case of a B1900, typical approach speed would be XY Knots and if flown below that speed, one could expect the outcome to be ABC because of DEF....and if the pilot 's actions were HIJ, then a possibly contributing factors would be KLM"...

The example above illustrates that speculation is focussed on trying to understand cause and effect and not trying to do a witch hunt and place blame.

So the acid test in the case of this active topic - it's not about an accident or incident (with any intterest in avitation safety) - it's a breaking story on real time events happening to an airline company - so speculation is not encouraged in context in this case, only facts - and if avcomers present these facts, they need to have supporting evidence (like newspaper articles, documents, etc..) If one wants to post an "opinion", then is should be stated as such, but remember that this forum like any other is considered a community "soap box" and if you are going to make statements that are not correct or based on poor information and defamatory, they could indeed land you in hot water.....

Steve Onions

"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

Sorry, Jon - but where does it state that she is "Sitting on the ground between the pilots"?

I may be wrong but the #idonthaveaseat says enough...
But like I said, I am not familiar so please educate me on normal pax who do not have a seat?
I'm not trying to cause drama but if this has anything todo with what CAA is trying to prevent then it means alot.

Sorry, Jon - but where does it state that she is "Sitting on the ground between the pilots"?

I may be wrong but the #idonthaveaseat says enough...
But like I said, I am not familiar so please educate me on normal pax who do not have a seat?
I'm not trying to cause drama but if this has anything todo with what CAA is trying to prevent then it means alot.

Sorry, Jon - but where does it state that she is "Sitting on the ground between the pilots"?

I may be wrong but the #idonthaveaseat says enough...
But like I said, I am not familiar so please educate me on normal pax who do not have a seat?
I'm not trying to cause drama but if this has anything todo with what CAA is trying to prevent then it means alot.

Is there another jumpseat available on these flights for pax?

Jon

Yes, you are 100% correct, Jon - you "may" be wrong.

Fair enough, that's why I said I was just asking. Old age and not educated on Dash Jump seats might have the best of me....