Friday, December 14, 2012

The Roman Agent In Gujarat

He conquered many lands and kingdoms but Julius Caesar was at his wits end on how to deal with the Gauls. The little village of Asterix and others simply refused to
surrender to the Roman emperor and were impossible to defeat in battle. One of
Caesar’s ‘wiseguys’ suggested that they should sow anarchy and
disharmony among the Gauls. Inject the citizens of Gaul with so much poison,
internal conflict and hatred that they die fighting among themselves. They
found a man who could do the job. Enter Tortuous Convolvulus (TC). Caesar wanted to test him but he needed no proof as
the agent immediately had his senators fighting, gossiping and speaking ill of
the emperor himself. Now this guy TC was so devious that once, when thrown to
lions in a circus, he made the lions fight among themselves and kill each
other. So you know what talent we are talking about. Take a look at his pic. TC
oozes cunning and deceit from head to toe, doesn’t he?

So Caesar sends TC to Gaul to divide and destroy them. On the way he
has all the members on his ship fighting each other too. When pirates are about
to attack his ship he even sets the pirates fighting among each other by claiming he paid gold to one of them for not being attacked. TC
manages to create havoc in the Gaul village but they eventually realise his
scheme and turn the tables on him. They plot and prove to the Romans that TC is
a traitor and had fooled their army. TC is sent back to Rome for punishment. It
is suspected, though, that with his cunning and deceit TC would have escaped
punishment.

Unfortunately, good old Caesar didn’t have Indian TV media in his time. He
wouldn’t have needed a TC then. All he would have had to do was ask a couple of
Indian news channels and their celebrities to land in Gaul before a battle and
they would have done the job better than TC. You know, like our own Romans have
media channels doing the job for them. We have this little state called Gujarat
which is troublesome, is headed by a man with some magic potion, who defies the
empire at every turn. So every time there’s an election battle around, our own
TCs land in Gujarat to divide people. In particular, their chosen target for
the divisive agenda is the Muslim community. The topic? Of course, the 2002
riots. Even if Muslims have moved on our media morons will never let them
forget and will keep re-opening old wounds.

A little bit of history is in order. Let’s take Ahmedabad for example.
The city is divided into East and West for reference by the Sabarmati River. Till the mid-1980s the
western parts of Ahmedabad were undeveloped, had sparse population. Hindus and Muslims lived
alongside each other in the eastern part but Hindus slowly started migrating to
the western parts in huge numbers. Does Sagarika
Ghose or Barkha Dutt ever
explain why? It was riot-fatigue that made Hindus move to the
western parts and, of course, better housing. Most Hindus in Ahmedabad do feel
that they received a raw deal in all the communal riots till then under
Congress rule. Groups of Muslims also shifted to the western parts. A few are
concentrated in a middle class area called Paldi while low income groups huddled up in one of the largest
ghettos called Juhapura. Hindus
practically used to refer to Juhapura as Pakistan. There is a historical animosity that wasn’t brought about by Narendra
Modi. This historical animosity did come under a series of Congress govts. Will Sagarika and Barkha tell you that?
No! The MSM folks seem to have discovered Muslims in Ahmedabad and Gujarat only
since 2002. I need not add that in all their shows they conveniently forget
that 2002 wouldn’t have happened if the Godhra
train burning hadn’t happened.

Tragedies can be man-made and natural. Have Muslims moved on from the
earthquake (which claimed over 20000 lives and much destruction of property) of
2001? Have they moved on from 2002? Has Gujarat moved on from both? The answer
is YES! There may be a few families that may still be suffering the pain and
that need not be only from Muslims. So what makes people like Barkha Dutt rush
to Gujarat and frequently keep injecting a sense of permanent “victimhood” in Muslims? This is not
just in Gujarat but they do it across India. If Muslims keep falling for this
propaganda they may risk the danger of pushing themselves further into
victimhood. Barkha was in Juhapura
to talk to rickshaw drivers and others on their conditions but she doesn’t tell
you the full story. She sexes up her report with incomplete stories. Take a look at this map below.

On the right you can see Paldi. Most private buses to Saurashtra region
(Rajkot, Bhavnagar etc) start from Paldi. Till 2002 the route (in black)
through Juhapura to the Sarkhej highway, onward to Rajkot, is the route they
use to follow. Post-Godhra 2002 all these buses take the longer route (marked in red)
to avoid passing through Juhapura which Barkha so devotedly covers on her trip.
Wonder why? My route-marking may not
be the exact roads but shows the direction very accurately. Bus operators were
willing to go through a longer route as against taking risks. Can Barkha explain why? Now, since the
red route has become quite established, it’s not just Hindu bus operators but
Muslim operators also follow that route. Truth is, for a long time Hindus have
avoided going through the route past Juhapura unless absolutely necessary.
Things are different now. There is no fear and most people drive past Juhapura.
This was the same fear and fatigue that drove most Hindus from the eastern
parts of Ahmedabad to the western parts. Juhapura is just one example that I’m
giving. There are many other stories that the Tortuous Convolvuluses in the
media aren’t going to tell. The post is not about history but only refers to
what Barkha touched upon in her show.

Interestingly, look at the title of both Barkha’s and Sagarika’s shows.
Both talk about a “Muslim narrative”.
That they are identical shouldn’t be any surprise at all. The headlines could
have made a happily married couple out of both channels.Their only agenda was to
somehow smear Narendra Modi just around the elections. Try and whip up some
anti-Modi sentiments through Muslims and hope Caesar is happy. While harping on
no Muslim being given an election ticket by the BJP someone on NDTV asked Nidhi Razdan why Omar Abdullah hasn’t given any
tickets to Hindus. No answer! The same agents never talk about the pogrom
or systematic ethnic cleansing that happened in Kashmir. In Gujarat, Muslims now live peacefully, many who left
have also returned. There is no
returning for Hindus who were driven out of Kashmir. No govt or media
speaks for them. This is one of the reasons Narendra Modi has become an icon
for Hindus. Caesar’s agents don’t seem to get this simple fact or happily
choose to live in denial.

Most things that Barkha discussed on her show are worth the trash can.
On December 11 she gently brought up the ‘Muslim’ agenda by asking if
development is significant if there is “no
justice”. This is as much a lie as any you can get from agents.
Gujarat 2002 is probably the only communal riots where many have been convicted
and punished. Increasingly, even BJP
supporters wonder why people like Nirmala Sitharaman and others even appear on
her agenda-driven shows. Any Muslim who
mentions Modi favourably or appears with him is permanently tarred by the media,
the Congress and by the NGO criminals who have made a killing with the riots
story.

While harping on Irfan Pathan’s
appearance on stage with Narendra Modi, Barkha couldn’t conceal her anguish.
Even Sunetra Chaudhury of NDTV couldn’t conceal her contempt for this event in
her tweets. So what riles up these folks? Even way back in 2007 when India won
the T-20 world cup Narendra Modi’s govt had awarded 5 lakhs to the
Pathan brothers. Modi applauds achievements of any Gujarati quite frequently.
He lauds Sunita Williams, the Pathans and even those not from Gujarat. The
media doesn’t seem to have any problems with Bollywood actors campaigning for
Modi, so why a problem with Irfan Pathan? Are
they suggesting he’s a Muslim first and not Indian first? And a successful
cricketer? Muslims must guard against such clever spin. Caesar’s agents may
not like it because all they want is that Narendra Modi be hanged sent to
prison or at least apologise since they have already stuck the “convict badge” on him. Programs by the Barkhas and their tweets and other communication aren’t those of
journalists. They sound more and more like electioneering lobbyists and people
are able to see through their messages now. This is what bothers them.

Then Barkha sits around wondering why her tweets and comments are
questioned even by those who are blocked by her. That is laughable and can only
come from a moron who doesn’t really know how twitter works or how public
figures will always be assessed by people. By her stupid logic she should know
that Narendra Modi has practically blocked her long back. He doesn’t give any
interviews to her or any of the celebs from NDTV and yet she keeps hovering
over 2002 and chasing Narendra Modi. Doesn’t she get his message? Actually, the
more Barkha rants against Modi the more he seems to get popular and she doesn’t
even get that. Real question is not whether Muslims have moved on from 2002. It is whether Barkha has moved on from 2002,
from Radiagate. It’s whether she has
moved on from the ‘Shoddy Journalism’
episode. It is whether she has moved on from the Chaitanya Kunte episode.

As clever as Tortuous Convolvulus was, he failed to destroy the spirit
and unity of the Gauls or their fierce defence of their little village against
the Romans. The Roman agents from Delhi keep turning up in Gujarat as a regular
ritual before every election. And yes, they do go back severely exposed and
feeling stupid like TC. Convolvulus was clever and deceitful enough to escape
the lions but I wonder if our Roman
agents can escape the lions from Gujarat.

118 comments:

Hello ranvir please make your presence felt across India and expose the filthy lies of this english media who are spreading venom among communities, and as for narendra modi they have done character assassination of the poor guy in front of Indian people, but by the grace of God he has survived so far and only grown in stature by the blessings and love of the people of Gujarat and now many people outside Gujarat admire him, please advertise your website more and more and help India make a better place to live by bringing Modi to national politics, cause only he can put all the congress and gandhi's in their right place, the way they looting and cheating the country, India needs narendra modi.

I think Ravinar is doing his bit and may be all of us are doing our bit in propagating these blog articles to our friends... We can only wish more and more people start boycotting MSM and turn to SM...

We can popularize ravinar and his works simply be mentioning the term mediacrooks in every blog that we post. It will help the new online users to realize the term and expose these journalists as they are.

Excellent. I so wish you were more popular. Unfortunately, these RS, SG. BD, SV, VM, PR etc only hvae gained prominence in MSM. I wonder why. only Arnab Goswami and Rajat Sharma maybe exceptions. Even people like Arati Jayrath and Kumar Ketkar are so frequently allowed to voice their vile against Modi. Is it coincidence. Or is it just that, only if you have leftish anti Modi argument, you get a seat on CNN IBN and NDTV. I think its BJPs and Vajpayee Govt failure that they could not make much impact on this important medium in their tenure in Govt.

I sincerely look forward to see some action from Mr. Modi and I hope he does not disappoint I would really like to see him go after these people. Sonia ji included. Let them all rush for Visa's and get out of the country for at least 5 years..for their own safety.

great article.....u see debates on Ram Janmabhoomi issue, d wretched Godhra issue every day almost, making a victim out of muslims (whereas d truth is they r d main culprits) but u never see any talkshow on d issues of ethnic cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir or d forcible conversions done by christians n muslims....whr is d fucking media then

What an article!!! I have no doubt this blog will have millions of views before 2014 general elections and have widespread impact on online readers and indirectly on many other.

I encourage readers to share every single blog-posts on twitter and facebook, also learn the facts mentioned here, discuss it in your friend circle. I am talking this from my experience with these blog since last few months. If you provide the facts and argue correctly it does changes peoples opinions.

A voice of sanity in this vile deluge of inspired hate and paid character assassination! Though the nation has got over BabriMasjid , Gujarat riots and 1984 Delhi riots these sick carrion feeders are still peddling their message of hate and divisiveness!

I have watched B.D's program and quite surprised to hear the word :perfect photo op" when Irfan Pathan went to meet Modi. This moron doesn't know what photo op is. A perfect example for that would be an aspiring politician sweeping the municipality roads, bathing a child in the slum houses, eating and sleeping in dalit houses (what Rahul Dumb Gandhi does). Stupid Burkha doesn't get the basic fact that it is Irfan Pathan who went to meet Modi but not Modi meeting Irfan.

If Modi does Sadbhavana -- then it is a Mission Prime Minister Operation.If Modi doesn't wear skull cap --- then he is not treating Muslims equally.If Irfan Pathan meets Modi---Then that is a perfect photo op by Modi.

Basically, what I understood is she either has a personal animosity toward Modi or she must a congress agent, who find's fault in whatever Modi does. She must choose one.

These TC will beg the day BJP spokepersons stop sitting in front of their camera. Modi has shown that. He uses them wisely. Barkha cannot step near. Rajdeep is shown his position. Shahid could go near only to burn his hands. Gadkari could not get that. He thought sitting in front of Shreenivasan will explain him. it did not improve the matter.As per Dharma of ruler, after setting his own state in order he is supposed to go on victory march. something like Rajasooya Yajna. it become imperative of Modi to take this march.

Oh dear u r making me addict of this. In all sense u r a "baap" of journalism n blogging. Burkhda dutt is afraid she may lost her commission in appoint in ministers as UPA may not repeat ever. Sagarika -ghost shud better take care of her ageing husband ;)

This is absolutely spot on especially about the Ahmedabad situation. I used to live there up to right before the riots, and have passed through Juhapura on a bus before Modi became CM,on a tension-filled Friday evening barely two hours before actual stabbings started. We still remember with a chill running down our spines how the hordes had gathered on both sides of the highway, itching for a Go.

Thanks to Narendra Modi and NDTV, i have seen the face of back seat driver AHmed Patel. Without them, i would never have known how he looks like.

ANd to promote him, two journo from the NDTV hindi counterpart were deployed. One is Manoranjan and another i don't know. I have never seen such sycophants in my life. are they idiot, or they think Junta are morons. Their sweat and panting exclusive of AHmed patel was ridiculous.

They put the work exactly in the mouth of Patel and Junta whom they were interviewing.

When in recent news laundry interview of Ravish Kumar, he refereed to some Hindi journo who are 'some setting baaz'. Now I know some of them.

Media khap panjayat headed by Vir Shangvi passed the judgement Modi is mass murderer and awarded lifelong lie tortures from media.The secularism and unity is in stake as many media,politicians concentrate on vote bank ,no one wants to speak of equality,bringing people together.

!! more power to your wit and your writing .. :) we the people need to have your kind of *honest commentators* ..instead we are having those hopeless TV debates and ridiculous anchors and analysts/commentators... let alone the expertise , they don't use common sense even ...who happens to be either this side or that side...

Fair assessment of state of media in country. It's not only about Gujarat and Modi. Going by culture of BREAKING NEWS and negative news coverage, one could believe there is nothing positive happening in our country.

what these numnuts fail to understand is that the more they have tried to malign modi over the years, the more popular and stronger he has become. My ultimate wet dream is to watch Barkha and the Sardesai News Network cover Modi's victory speech in a few days from now!!

Though It may be out of the scope of this blog, I suggest you to take a detour and put the actual (sorry...factual)insider story of the Gujarat communal scenario, its past and present, that the MSM will never share. It could be named something like " Gujarat Factual Narrative - What the BAR & Their Council Don't Tell You."

Completely agree...Similar exercise needs to be done in UP(9 communal riots this year alone) , Assam , Hyderabad.I think what BJP or any nationalist organization has to do this simple trick, to begin with......Get few spy cameras installed surrounding all mosques and other ghettos and record the happenings there. When riots break out , Im sure this will provide valuable evidence....

reading you is an absolute treat. there's hardly a sentence where one can have a disagreement. and yes, the more modi is pulled down the stronger he gets. he is like a bomb, higher the pressure of confinement of the explosive, the more deadly the effect is. i really hate people who don't learn their lessons, barkhas and sagarikas are few such people.

As usual Brilliant Ravinar! It is high time that we PT's start a News Channel with ur leadership just to expose these liars...It's ok for me if all English News Channels want to campaign directly for Congress..I can take that, but spreading lies to divide two communities is anti-national..These traitors should be hanged for that..that is the least punishment these morons should recieve...Again, Congratulation on ur 400th Post here...Wishing for many more...

Ravinar! Ravinar!! Ravinar!!! as screamed by Ms. Shobha dey :) My friend, You are giving words to My decade long extreme anguish/frustrations. May Mother Jagadamba bless you with her fire power. as far as NaMo goes, we Indian lost Sardar Patel already and could not allow him to become PM but We must not repeat that mistake now. Bharat Mata ki jay

Nice one Ravi! I hope you had seen the youtube video of P Sainath in which he spoke about Montek Singh Ahluwalia's lies & his crazy expenses during his trips to the USA. I wonder why none in the MSM takes up this issue. You can see the same here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OOw9mcI7FU

Godhra has a history of communal violence. In 1980, five members of a Sindhi family were burnt alive at Muslim-dominated Signalfalia. Old timers say Muslims wanted them to vacate their house and leave. In 1990, four Hindu teachers of Saifia Madarsa in Vorwad area of Godhra town were killed by Muslims (source Rediffmail). Only violence against Muslims stay in memory for decades. Death of Hindus do not matter as they are hate mongers

great again. but the problem is if one is not awrae of the context he is quoting it may not as enjoyable as it would be if one knows it.This particular write becomes more enjoyable when one has read Asterix comics and knows the characters there. I am a fan of Asterix comics and the charaters in real life of this write up can be easily related. For example Cacofonix. The blog has become a an addiction of epidemic proportions.It is not even an hour since it was published I am waiting for the next.

In Mid 90's when cable tv became big and NDTV was a pioneer in 24 hour news. I used to relate this woman Barka Dutt to Christina Amanapour of CNN. In the past 7 years, Barka Dutt has become real stupid. No comparision to Amanapour. By history, it was always the Muslims who started the riots and Godhra train fire pushed the Hindus to the edge. Under Rajiv gandhi's rule it was okay for his supporters to get angry at his mother's death and kill Sikhs at their wish and these so called journalists are okay with that kind of instant violence whereas even after 10 years, they keep digging the 10 year old spur of the moment action.

godhra has even pre partition history of communal violenceMorarji deasai was SDM of area in his brief ICS career..and town was under curfew or something like many months in british period once upon a timeMSM does not mention that during bardoli satyagrah after no rent campaign Biritish used Muslims to acquire land and property of peasants and sell them off cheaply...

On eve of 2009 election,burka conducted series of interviews with nitish kumar to create modi phobia in his mind and managed to succeed in it.As ravinar points out oftenly,she is not a journalist,but a propagandist for gandhi family.

BJP should Boycott NDTV (first) and release a press statement, that it's congress mouthpiece, or something like they derecognise NDTV as a fair media.. That will turn out to be a good political move, and works like an indirect campaign against MSM.

People should be clear well before 2014 elections, the game that's being played by MSM.

What I mean is.. BJP should take an official stance, then MSM views will boil down to the congress views.. That will keep these NDTV etc, in a perplexed stance..

I agree BJP should boycott these paid agents of falsehood. But I think BJP IS BEING BLACKMAILED by these guys else they would have protested by now. So they have some secrets which they want to hide. I remember watching a debate on NDTV where Chandan Mitra was asked only 1 question in 45 minutes and he did not even complain about that. This shows they have some hidden agenda behind appearing on these channels.

I can understand Congress has bought over the entire media clan but more baffling is BJP silence on this (and they are silent since 2004 onward when the process on pro congress started full scale). I don't think BJP deserves any sympathy.. actually they need to answer.

Your comments are welcome. However, I notice that you frequently use the comments section to promote some search about you or some site. Maybe once/twice is fine, but I'm seeing this often. Please avoid using the comments section for advertisements.

I wonder why not a single Muslim spoke in support of your post although I see so many people applauding your post but not a single Muslim.Reading your post it seems that you don't believe Modi should apologise,being a the CM when such mass murders took place(let it be Hindus or Muslims)don't you think Modi as the CM should at least say sorry that he couldn't control the situation.All the development that has occurred in his reign is all superficial the farmers there are still in bad situation building malls and bringing MNC's does not help the lower sections of the society it just brings more inequality and disparity among the different sections of society.You are blinded by your religion.Gujarat stand as the biggest paradox to the notion of "unity in diversity" in our country.Our country although a secular one has failed to include the minorities in our development process not only in Gujarat but everywhere and that shames me as an Indian.A democracy which cannot serve the minorities is nothing but hollow from inside out.And most of the people from majority will agree with you than with me but the ugly truth is poor is getting poorer and rich is getting richer and the minorities(the Muslims especially),they don't even exist.

what else can be expected from Bengalis, yet another crap from yet another Bengali. Constitution is same for everyone, laws are same for everyone, exception is India where we have different civil laws for diff religions.You need to wake up from Coma, look at your pathetic state which is a nothing more than a pile of shit, thanks to Numb head Bengalis that for 2 decades they voted left and not they are voting to Mamta. With all it's negatives Gujarat is India's top state and If you consider Gujarat as a country than it has 21st biggest GDP in world. You are the first egg head Bengali who is talking about Malls in Gujarat as nobody talk about mall not even Modi. In Gujarat ppl talk Modi and they than talk 24 hours 3 phase electricity, surfaced roads , clean water , green energy, industries and agriculture growth rate, which is highest in india. Again a sick minded bengali is against MNC and industries, please go to your filthy state Bengal and leave rest of Indians alone coz we want development and we want industries.Minorities are not just muslim. we have sikhs,parsis, Jains and other who are better placed than Majority population. 21 crore muslims seems minority to you? lol again a fat head Bengali. Poor is getting poor and rich is getting rich, what this has to do with Muslims? why in this world we have Pumpkin head Bengalis....

In 2011 riots in a corner of London it took more than 10,000 officers to control the situation.You expect a state Govt to control the riots spread across different parts of Gujarat in no time eh?

I think you haven't gone thru this link yet http://kiranasis.blogspot.com/2011/09/godhra-train-burning-yet-another-rewind.html

Why go that far,in Aug.2012 Assam riots,CONgress ruling state.Did they stopped it without any casualties that too from illegal immigrants?Shouldn't you ask the central Govt,MaunMohan Singh,SoniaG and our own Amul Baby RahulG to apologise.

Before 2002 for more than 100 years there isn't a month gone without a curfew in Gujarat due to communal tensions or some other incidences.In last 10 years how many times curfew was enforced?

Maybe you are not aware of this,Gujarat is semi-arid and arid region.Water is scarce and in 10 years despite the hurdles Gujarat Govt was able to meet if not all more than some farmers requirements(On this point some one from Gujarat might want to correct me).You can't make everyone happy.May be in next 10 years the remaining are covered.

You talk about minorities.Who are minorities?Aren't they getting the same equal rights as the so called majorities.Tell me who is minority in J&K,more than 400,000 Hindus were driven out of J&k.We too wonder why Muslims haven't spoken about this.Shouldn't the Central Govt apologise and send them back with dignity and honor.

What about the 1984 state sponsored pogrom of sikhs.Those who were commandeered are still sitting in the parliament.They still waiting for justice.Did the CONgress apologise?

Most points in your comment are short on truth. However, let me respond on just one that you've made. You said:

"I wonder why not a single Muslim spoke in support of your post although I see so many people applauding your post but not a single Muslim".

Thats a good question. Can you answer it? That is as absurd as Qs by media on why no ticket for Muslims. Why no muslim in comments? Let's see, maybe muslims still dont use internet or dont read. Who is to blame? You? Now that is hypothetical but you need to wake up.

I write, I DONT decide who reads and who comments. I dont go around asking Hindus, Muslims and Christians to read and comment. Do you realise how absurd your question is now? Frankly, you sound like Barkha Dutt yourself.

When it comes to Modi , nothing short of perfection is expectation. Whereas dumbasses like rahulG , who spents probably 9 months outside of India , who doesn't even hold a degree , who has zilch knowledge about India past or present , gets called as a National leader....

Muslims are not commenting here , because most of them dont like to accept the bitter truth..When Conress and MSM is working overtime to go the extra mile for Muslims why would they care to comment here...Even otherwise tehy are busy attending Madrasas or reproducing like bunnies

@DrunkenDuck what is this about bengalis and bengal??Means why you generalising that every bong thinks the way I think.And how do you know where I belong to? Is it necessary for a bong to live in bengal only.And bengal continues to be in a bad condition but that has nothing to do with what I am saying here.I don't know how you picturise this country.Really don't have words for you,you are amazing.Lets not talk about bengal and its filth,it has a lot of reasons for the condition it is in now.I am not against MNCs or industrialisation but it shouldn't be at the cost of the poor

Well my generalization for bengalis came after years of watching them on Television as journalist, in print media as reporters, in JNU as professors, as supporters of Maoists, as supporter of communists, as anti development, pro strikes...this filth is in there genes.After years of observation I find every celebrated bengali as below avg IQ, confused and completely non analytical.

Not every industry and MNC have negative impact on poor, it depends on policies.Anyways this phenomenon is global and in Gujarat it is very negligible for example, Farmer's land is not acquired on dirt prices unlike in haryana where Robert V has acquired forest land, hospital land, hotel land by manipulating govt policies.

it is a sad commentary on part our so called liberal hindus who wants to be called secular. the best way for these morons are bash hindus and question their hindu agenda which is anti muslim. a hindu can never be communal but nobody question the muslims on thier communal agenda why only hindus have to prove thier secular credential why not the minorities i think being majority hindu can be sin in only this country. In keral the name of the party is muslim leagur its top leeaders dont light lamps , changes names of govt building from Ganga to Grace media and congress shout from roof tops saying they are secular. i think we hindus deserve this because we have not understood what is the greatness of this nation India is secular because of the majority.

First thing, i cannot understand whether this article is about praising Modi or about Barkha bashing. Moreover, this article just asks a few questions without trying to answer as if they are rhetorics. Like it asks about Kashmiri Pandits. The writer simply does not have an idea as to how many of them have already returned. Moreover how many mass graves/crematoriums of Hindus have been found in Gujrat as opposed to the numbers of mass Muslim graves found in Kashmir because of AFSPA. If Govt. of India was so apathetic towards Hindus, as the author has claimed, there would have been AFSPA in Gujarat for last 10 years. I see APCO is doing an excellent job. And @DrunckenDuck, after reading your comment, I cannot but applause your outstanding sense of giving yourself an apt name. Do you always remain in that state or sometimes, like when writing comments? "Gujarat is India's top state". Since when and in which parameter? In no parameter starting from industrial to agricultural to HDI to FDI, in none of the parameters, it is at the top. And believe it or not, in certain parameters, it is worse than even the BIMARU states of India. Anyway, I do not want to explain to someone whose name indicates the state in which he is in. Happy staying in the same state as your name suggests.

oh cummon mr chatterjee..i see why u cannot decide what this article or as a matter of fact other previous articles are all about. first u need to get out of this JNU student mentality of yours. i will tell you how many kashmiri pandits have reurned? less than 125 families still are in the kashmir. after 1989. after 22 years.and left wing persons like you would not even want that. and why would AFSPA would be there in gujarat? since 10 years i havnt heard any riot happening there.on the other hand i have heard deganga riots(2010 i guess), assam riots, and riots in UP(they are so frequent that papers have stopped publishing news relating to them). and mass muslim graves and mass hindu graves?? dude, you need to get a brain transplant as i can see when god was giving brain you were in a CPI rally.and what drunkenduck has said, it is truth and nothing but the truth(except derogatory terms regarding bengalis).but the problem lies in the fact that you leftists or pseudoseculars believe that any part of a leader to unite people, not appeasing an particular community or taking proud in good governence is a moron and should not exist on this planet. specially when the leader is from BJP which according to your IQ i am sure should not exist. also i am 100% sure your fav news anchors are sagarika ghose and barkha dutt because their views and low IQ matches with yours.now instead of commenting here like idiot, go out for a walk,cool yourself, ponder over your lack of intelligence. have some phuchka. and dhondu...just chill.

@Santnu Chatterjee: Oh god one more Bengali today with a peanut size brain. First of First its DrunkenDuck and not DrunkenMe, but what more one can expect from a swollen head Bengali.

Not a single Kashmiri Pandit was ever rehabilitated back to Kashmir, time for a fact, Kashmiri Pandits are largest group of internal refugee in the world.

Till now there is not a single mass grave in Kashmir valley attributed to alleged atrocities committed under AFSPA. Gujarat don't have AFSPA imposed.

Gujarat below BEMARU on certain parameters, yet again a rumor by a Numb head Bengali, your aunty Sagarika gave you this information? or its by some filthy minded prof from JNU?

Typical Bengali mind of analyzing facts, Gujarat may not be no 1 in some parameters but overall it is top state in India. You can google, you can also read reports of commissions and ministries under UPA, they all agree Gujarat is top.

Only state which is not top is Bengal.You Bengalis have made Bengal a filth of India, and you ppl talk about Gujarat, what a irony. Bengal is a dirty pit of filth, poverty, lawlessness, maoists and what not. We can see lots of Bengalis migrating in diff parts of India and creating lawlessness and filth, thanks to Bengali genes.

compare taxes Bengal pays with what Gujarat pays to Central govt and FYI per capita of Bengal is less than National Average.

You are nothing Mr Chuterjee but a filthy Bengali mind trained by sleeveless Aunty Sagarika or some scum in JNU.

Don't blame the Bengalis. They had the unfortunate experience of being brought up in the Marxist filth , same as us in Kerala. You should see some of the arguments against FDI by the same idiots. For eg, a CPM MLA( and 'tall' leader) in Kerala recently said : Muslims in Kerala run most of the Kirana shops. Hence FDI in retail is anti-secular.

Don't you think you should be sympathizing with the Bengalis ( and malayalees) , for living up with this shit everyday :) ?

Hi,Just yesterday I had a bet with my friends—that Barkha Dutt will give a platform to Pakistani Minister Malik to throw muck on India. She has always given a platform to Kashmiri separatists to get their lies across .

She shrewdly allowed him to talk about Babri Masjid— just ONE SINGLE MOSQUE in which no prayers have been conducted since it was made centuries ago.

Is one Babri mosque, made with same stones from the destroyed Ram temple and on the same foundation, counterbalancing more than 1000 ancient Hindu temples broken in Pakistan after 1947?

Hah, I see the typical fascist point "With us or against us". As i can understand from your name callings, one thing is certain, you really do not have any arguments against what i said. That is why you had to guess, low IQ, student of JNU, i was in CPI when God was giving brains, dhodu, CONgressi and what not. Tell you what really enjoyed them. BTW, when was it last time you checked your IQ? And how much do you know about my IQ? If Kashmiri Pandits do not want to return, it is entirely their personal freedom to choose. And when was the last time you heard of a communal riot in Kashmir? The reason why there has been no further riot in Gujarat is that the ethnic cleansing has been complete.You are right, for people with such great IQ level the only way of arguing is to resort to name calling you have displayed here, it is only normal that you will say that @DrunckenDuck has said truth and nothing but the truth. Ok, good for everyone. I do not have any intention of taking a frog out of a well. And @Umesh, you can google for the data.

About your assertion about hindus in kashmir vis-a-vis muslims in gujarat. It is a no-brainer really. I can tell you this with authority because I am very very closely associated with J&K. I don't know if you have been ever made homeless at the point of gun. If you had been, I would love to know if you would've exercised your personal freedom of choice in returning back. I don't know if you know what has happened to the properties from where pundits were evacuated. You don't understand that kind of pain, you can't even visualise it, all you can do is give an option to exercise their choice and write detached comments.

You want to know about communal riots in Kashmir? They happen almost everyday. Yes everyday. Only difference now is that only the dogs are fighting amongst themselves as to who will get the bigger chunk of meat. There are going to be bigger riots in very near future in J&K. You know why these riots will happen? They will happen because of the way the demography of Jammu region is being changed. Muslims are being provided with low cost real estate on areas bordering Jammu region. They have already multiplied and have turned into ghettos. The resources remain limited. It is for you to draw the conclusion what will happen.

What do you know about AFSPA to even talk about it? Do you know the conditions under which AFSPA can be imposed? You think mass graves in Kashmir are a result of AFSPA? Try and live in that 'paradise on earth' turned into hell; for a year and find out what really goes on rather than making statements based upon what media feeds you. I am saying this because I have experienced it, much more than you can imagine.

The way you throw around words like ethnic cleansing, I don't think you know and understand the true meaning of such words. In fact, some more famous people have used similar words: 'mass murderer' and 'maut ka saudagar'.We know where those people come from, so there's no point discussing that. I know where you come from on that account.

Regarding data about whatever Gujarat is. You have drawn your conclusions, I have drawn mine and so has anybody else. Our views need not match. The results of election will show veracity of data and we will know who has been fooled.

Maybe you get daily dose of news from Mainstream Media(MSM) i.e. TV(NDTV,CNNIBN,TimesNow,etc.),Print Media and and their websites.The credibility of MSM is very low.For instance recently Tehelka.com accused Mr.Modi of Rs 20,000cr scam.The same was parroted my Mr.Kejriwal and categorically said he got it from Sanjiv Bhatt.This was proven wrong within 2 hours after Tehelka's expose by mere 2 tweets from a gentlemen from the twitter.And later in detail by Centerright.in and firstpost.in

If you go to this site http://ioretradingindia.blogspot.com you will get first hand experience of MSM's behaviour.

You asked "And when was the last time you heard of a communal riot in Kashmir?".The reason is simple attacking Muslim is breaking news and Muslim attacking Hindu is not even a news.Let me give you a best example.Recently in Hyderabad in old city Muslims went on a rampage and burned some vehicles and 144 section was imposed.It was aired all over the regional channels have you heard anything about it in National Channels?

In Mumbai Muslims went on a rampage and even pissed and desecrated Amar Jawan smaarak.How many times was it aired in National Channels?And when it came to arrest these culprits the administration said they will arrest after their festival(maybe Ramzan I think).

Now look at the case of Kanchi Kamakoti Peetadhipathi Jayendra Saraswathi.He was arrested on the day of Deepawali on murder charges and locked him up in jail.He's not an ordinary person to put him in jail.You put a person like Jayendra Saraswathi in house arrest or in govt. bungalow till further orders just like the administration did with Bukhari(special Guest house for this guy).At the end Supreme Court had given a tight slap to the police on their shoddy investigation wrt Saraswathi ji.Don't you see the discrimination.

Without hearing other sides view you came to conclusion Mr.Modi is guilty.If so how come SIT which is monitored by Supreme court gave clean chit to Mr.Modi?

You call Gujarat riots as ethnic cleansing.You should read this:http://kiranasis.blogspot.com/2011/09/godhra-train-burning-yet-another-rewind.htmlIf it is ethnic cleansing then how come more than 250 Hindus died?

Read this too:http://folks.co.in/blog/2012/08/17/modi-and-the-mahatma-who-was-more-guilty/

From where does this gadhaas come from really. ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Gujarat, may be he is the vir sanghvi "mass murderer type" and so he calls ethnic cleansing. Just as others pointed out here when riots happen under pseudo secular governments and when muslims instigate riots like recently in hyderabad or mumbai, the media remains silent. But I think this chatterjee doesn't know that west bengal is right now infiltrated by bangladeshi muslims in such numbers that they now represent 27% of the population and very early will kick all the hindu bengalis from the eastern districts (it is already happening) and but still due to their brainwashing from CPI's elements they remain in delusion. what a pathetic idiots these are.

Percentage of Muslims in Gujarat 10%, percentage of Hindus in Kashmir <4% and you talk about ethnic cleansing of Muslims? Again Kashmiri Pandits who are Hindus are world's largest internal refugee and that too in a country where majority is Hindu.

Pandits never returned to Kashmir as no one guarantee them Security and safety.

There is nothing left for riots in kashmir like in all Muslim majority countries as there is no one left to kill, murder and torture or rape.

I don't know you are a filthy bengali head or as usual a Muslim with a Bengali name but one thing is sure, your IQ level is comparable to Sagarika aunty's. Why don't you and Sagarika meet and enlighten each other with your discoveries?

Dear Mr. Random number, if MSM cannot be believed, whom am i supposed to believe? A few fanatics like people who write here hiding their names behind hieroglyphics? And Mr. Hidetaga, why waste your fabulous stock of abuses on an "useless" person like me when you do not have anything to say other than abusing me? Al beit, i am surprised to see that even half witted japanese have started working with Kashmiri Brahmins. As far as Mr. Sharma is concerned, frankly i do not have first hand experience in kashmir, but have closely seen the situation of Muslims and Hindus in ahmedabad, as has been stated in the above blog. The state is totally absent in places like Juhapura, no sanitation, roads arre pathetic, not even traffic lights are there in four point crossing as opposed to the stated bus routes.

It's a free country, Muslims like (Kashmiri Pandits/Ethnic Assamse/Nepalese/Tibetens) can move to more muslim friendly neighborhoods (doesn't necessarily have to in India too), though they could try UP or Bihar. I hear Assam is very accommodating.

If Juhapura is such a dump hole and is ignored by the State, then sane people move where there will be opportunities without discrimination.

So there nothing is stopping residents of Juhapura moving to "greener" pastures where they will find a better life...there are plenty of Congress led states that would welcome them with open arms for obvious reasons.

What I find strange, despite the 2002 riots the Muslim population in Gujarat has grown! there is hardly been a mass exodus. Contrary to the BS peddled in MSM of "minorities" (=Muslims) having no opportunities in Gujarat.

You must surely be Burqa Dutt herself...Choosing a Bengali name is more believable coz most Bengalis wont realize the impact of Muslim invasion from Bangladesh unless a bomb explodes underneath their ass....

Being a Kashmiri Pandit myself and also a victim of ethnic cleansing that took place in 1990,I would just like to set the record straight with reference to points raised against my community by Mr.Chaterjee. Kashmir ceased to be secular way back in the 14th century with the advent of Islam and it has only been turmoil and destruction since then barring a few decades of Sikh/dogra rule in the last century.This Islamic onslaught has continued unabated because Kashmir has been,for centuries,considered to be the fountainhead of the wider Hindu Civilization.For further details you can always read about the contribution of KPs to Indian culture,religion,medicine,literature etc etc.The fact that communal riots have been unheard of in Kashmir is attributable to the meek and docile nature of KPs and not to secular nature of Muslims.The persecution of our community has continued to be intense and shockingly overt even after 1947 under the patronage of the Abdhullas and the Muftis and the central Govt has always kept mum.We were always treated as the fifth columnists in the valley and dispensable by the Central Govt.In a very recent case, when some of the female members of our community,who have been employed in the State Govt. under the Prime minister's special recruitment drive for KPs,complained to Ms. Radha Kumar(the central Interlocutor)about the sexual harassment they were facing at the hands of their Muslim superiors in their offices.She told them to bear with it as they had to sacrifice this much for their jobs.NOW.I think she could be hauled over the coals and even sued for this statement.But again.she got away with it just bcoz the victims in this case are hapless Hindus and they have no Barkha Dutt to highlight their plight.Coming to Barkha Dutt,I would like to inform you with full responsibility that the large scale disturbances in the Kashmir Valley in 2010 were almost orchestrated by BD and her channel to a large extent and ironically everybody in Kashmir knows about it.I know this only bcoz I have been mapping the whole valley during the past two years and have collected hundreds of Pics and videos of the mass destruction/devastation that has been systematically going on under the patronage of the local Govt to wipe out all traces of hinduism from the valley.........As regards Gujrat and Modi,have you ever seen the media going to any state with a fine comb to pinpoint even 1% inadequacy in the achievements highlighted by any other state Govt.In other states ruled by the congress right since 1947,work still in progress is OK but in Gujrat even 1% backlog is scandalous. Frankly, I take it as a compliment to Mr. Modi.

Hey u ass lickers of Modi and a bunch of shit holes, who do not know how to wipe your ass clean after shitting. i think i had enough of abuses. See, i also have a healthy stock :D. Why do you consider me to be phattus like you guys who should hide their names. Why don't you take out your head from inside Modi and BJP's ass and open your eyes? I think Bihar is ruled by NDA ally and so is Karnataka. And you Mr. Kashmiri Brahmin, can you please take another part of human anatomy out of your mouth before trying to teach a Bengali what it means to be a refugee? You at least got a lot of quotas in educational institutions in Maharastra and other states, which we did not get even after losing our country after 1947 and 1971. What makes you think that a bengali Hindu cannot talk sense just because you Kashmiri Brahmins are a bunch of riot mongering scums? You come to Maharastra, get quotas and look down upon them, don't i know you people's attitude? But why am i telling you all these? You people are a bunch of born cowards as you do not have even the courage to write your names?

Hohoho it seems Mr.Chatterjee will be happy to live in Bangladesh.Why don't you go there.1/3rd of illegal Bangladeshi's are eating our resources,are you one of them?India is a country where many great persons sacrificed their lives and we don't know many of their names.And anonymity is one of many such things they practiced.

Regarding your question of believing MSM,the answer is simple there are many blogs likes mediacrooks.com and check for yourself.For example recently Rahul Gandhi said central Govt introduced 108 service.Have you seen how many of MSM's corrected it? It was not central govt but it was Satyam company introduced 108 services and collaborates with state and central govts.

Instead of fact checking you are retorting to name calling.And coming from the land of Swami Vivekananda it doesn't suit you.

Take away Narendra Modi and Barkha's life is a big zero. She does not have any other agenda. She is just like Pakistan (which solely exists on hate India obsession) - her career is nothing but hate Narendra Modi campaign/obsession. Not a journalist in any sense.

Hats of to Ravinar for bringing this truth to us, btw we all know ant bhala to sab bhala.No matter how much mediaPimps bash Modi,but their channels fighting with each other 2give maximum coverage 2 Modi.He is a real LION.according to times now and india today bjp is getting more than 130 seats.

I read this post quite late, i.e. after 3 months, but the content seems as fresh as ever because the propoganda machine has only gotten more strong post #SRCC and #wharton fiasco.

It was a great blog, and the the facts provided by you were quite good. Infact, the reasoning why Omar Abdullah hasn't given any tickets to hindus, so why shall be modi bounded to provide any to Muslims.Although, even that is unimportant now, since 22 muslims from BJP have won in the recently concluded elections.

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