Readers' Letters

Fluoridation is ‘money down the drain’

BILL Edmunds’ letter “Fluoridation scheme dead in the water” (December 28), reported that another inquiry in Cumbria has been started to prove fluoridation is safe and effective.

This new scheme will cost £1,549,347. What a waste of public money, along with that already wasted in Southampton.

If the authorities really cared about teeth they would provide a better dental service. More adult teeth are lost from gum disease than tooth decay, yet some areas have no NHS periodontist (gum specialist) and there can be long waiting lists to see one, during which time teeth can be lost.

It can cost well over £100 a visit to see a private periodontist, which is too expensive for many people. So they may lose their teeth – and fluoridation cannot help gum disease. But officials are quite happy to spend millions on trying to force fluoridation through.

Fluoridation is wasteful and expensive as only one per cent of the water supply is used for drinking. Most water is used by industry and for washing and toilet flushing etc.

For every £100 spent on fluoridation less than one per cent of it reaches children’s teeth, so it's literally money down the drain.

If only the authorities would spend the fluoridation money on gum specialists, good dentistry and dental education for children in schools.

Linesman- water fluoridation is a horse that deserves a fatal flogging. It is not effective and not safe. Apparently, you think inertia is a good reason to continue a policy. "It's what me mum and dad did, so it's good enough for me, eh?"

Linesman- water fluoridation is a horse that deserves a fatal flogging. It is not effective and not safe. Apparently, you think inertia is a good reason to continue a policy. "It's what me mum and dad did, so it's good enough for me, eh?"trickytanzanian

trickytanzanian wrote:
Linesman- water fluoridation is a horse that deserves a fatal flogging. It is not effective and not safe. Apparently, you think inertia is a good reason to continue a policy. &quot;It's what me mum and dad did, so it's good enough for me, eh?"

With the best will in the world, don't you think this subject was done to death last year?

Be honest. What real knowledge have you got on the subject?

[quote][p][bold]trickytanzanian[/bold] wrote:
Linesman- water fluoridation is a horse that deserves a fatal flogging. It is not effective and not safe. Apparently, you think inertia is a good reason to continue a policy. "It's what me mum and dad did, so it's good enough for me, eh?"[/p][/quote]With the best will in the world, don't you think this subject was done to death last year?
Be honest. What real knowledge have you got on the subject?Linesman

Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:

A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.

G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.

JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c
om/content/92/4/376

"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."

Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:
A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.
G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.
JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c
om/content/92/4/376
"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."
Featherstone JDB (1999) Prevention and reversal of dental caries: role of low level fluoride. Community Dent Oral Epidemiol 27 (quoted text from abstract, discussion at pp. 31-40).
Pubmed link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.
nih.gov/pubmed/10086
924trickytanzanian

trickytanzanian wrote:
Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:

A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.

G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.

JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c

om/content/92/4/376

&quot;The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."

So you have to go to Australia - half-way round the world - to come up with that.

I prefer to rely on the Midlands experience of more than half a century of fluoridation, which does not appear to have caused the mass-poisoning that some of the anti-brigade have forecast, and has had a beneficial effect on the teeth of those living in the area.

To my mind, that speaks louder than laboratory tests and statistics collected, over a comparatively short period, by persons possibly employed by a group with a different agenda.

[quote][p][bold]trickytanzanian[/bold] wrote:
Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:
A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.
G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.
JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c
om/content/92/4/376
"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."
Featherstone JDB (1999) Prevention and reversal of dental caries: role of low level fluoride. Community Dent Oral Epidemiol 27 (quoted text from abstract, discussion at pp. 31-40).
Pubmed link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.
nih.gov/pubmed/10086
924[/p][/quote]So you have to go to Australia - half-way round the world - to come up with that.
I prefer to rely on the Midlands experience of more than half a century of fluoridation, which does not appear to have caused the mass-poisoning that some of the anti-brigade have forecast, and has had a beneficial effect on the teeth of those living in the area.
To my mind, that speaks louder than laboratory tests and statistics collected, over a comparatively short period, by persons possibly employed by a group with a different agenda.Linesman

trickytanzanian wrote:
Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:

A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.

G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.

JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c

om/content/92/4/376

&quot;The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."

So you have to go to Australia - half-way round the world - to come up with that.

I prefer to rely on the Midlands experience of more than half a century of fluoridation, which does not appear to have caused the mass-poisoning that some of the anti-brigade have forecast, and has had a beneficial effect on the teeth of those living in the area.

To my mind, that speaks louder than laboratory tests and statistics collected, over a comparatively short period, by persons possibly employed by a group with a different agenda.

Yet fluoride is a class 6 toxin with little to no benefit to the human body, ingesting it, will over time, cause vitrification of the pineal gland and also over time, will cause dental and skeletal fluorosis, not to mention that the fluoride sources to be used will contain slicon, another highly toxic substance and it will contain sodium, meaning that someone who drinks fluoridated water, may have a higher sodium intake than someone not drinking fluoridated water.

[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]trickytanzanian[/bold] wrote:
Linesman- undoubtedly with the best will, I can answer any questions you have on the subject. But for a sampling of the scientific evidence available, read the following:
A large Australian study from last year found a 10-11% decrease in cavities attributable to water fluoridation. It reduced an average child's cavities from around 0.6 to around 0.5.
G.D. Slade, et al., Effects of Fluoridated Drinking Water on Dental Caries in Australian Adults, Journal of Dental Research, revised March 18, 2013.
JDR link to online version: http://jdr.sagepub.c
om/content/92/4/376
"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention. The effect of systemically ingested fluoride on caries is minimal."
Featherstone JDB (1999) Prevention and reversal of dental caries: role of low level fluoride. Community Dent Oral Epidemiol 27 (quoted text from abstract, discussion at pp. 31-40).
Pubmed link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.
nih.gov/pubmed/10086
924[/p][/quote]So you have to go to Australia - half-way round the world - to come up with that.
I prefer to rely on the Midlands experience of more than half a century of fluoridation, which does not appear to have caused the mass-poisoning that some of the anti-brigade have forecast, and has had a beneficial effect on the teeth of those living in the area.
To my mind, that speaks louder than laboratory tests and statistics collected, over a comparatively short period, by persons possibly employed by a group with a different agenda.[/p][/quote]Yet fluoride is a class 6 toxin with little to no benefit to the human body, ingesting it, will over time, cause vitrification of the pineal gland and also over time, will cause dental and skeletal fluorosis, not to mention that the fluoride sources to be used will contain slicon, another highly toxic substance and it will contain sodium, meaning that someone who drinks fluoridated water, may have a higher sodium intake than someone not drinking fluoridated water.Ginger_cyclist