I like RRR's suggestion. A nautical theme to our hierarchy (if indeed a hierarchy is needed) makes more sense given our Piratical emphasis. Bishops are chess pieces and Cardinals are birds. I'm not sure what a Pope is other than I hear they come on ropes at times.

Renaming the ranks already implied is fine with me, but the suggestions seem like....."kidish" if you know what I mean. We are not copying the Roman Catholic Church because it is the only church with a actual hierarchy. The only church that has close to a hierarchy is the Mormon Church and even they way they chose their Prophet (who is actually the President but that's not the point) is very loose. So what I am trying to say is that I support the current rank names and the way they are arranged and earned. I am still open to ideas though.

1. The power to call a Council of Olive Garden and discuss current issues of the church, since I am assuming the Council of Olive Garden is the highest governing power along with Bobby Henderson our prophet. (This might be what you talked about in your first power the pope, but I am not sure about their papacy ending, could you please explain that more)

2. I have more I am just tired because I am writing this late at night (late for me), so I will do that later.

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Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:Aside from the complete lack of hierarchy that already exists, and the very flimsy nature of our religion in the first place...

I don't think any of the proposals that have to do with being on the forum would properly represent the entirety of our religion. There are Pastafarians who don't do much of anything online. There are reddit Pastafarians, Facebook Pastafarians, YouTube Pastafarians...

Anything that relies solely on how active someone is here or whether or not they are a forum member means that we ignore the rest of our brethren-in-sauce.

And even if we did decide to have a hierarchy, why must it mimic Christianity?

We don't need a Pope. We need an Admiral!

Proposed Hypothetical Hierarchy:

The Holies

The Flying Spaghetti Monster (hallowed be His sauce)Prophet Bobby Henderson (the Quill of the FSM)

Captain (In charge of single Ship. Can also make new ranks specific to their Ship.)First Mate (For larger Ships, 2nd in command.)Bosun (Also for larger Ships. In charge of ensigns, swabbies, and cabin persons)Ensign (Experienced minister/monister)

MinisterMonisterSaucemeisterReverendPirateCaptain (even if you don't have any crew... but for each crew, there can only be one Captain)

Sure,Triple R, I except the nautical theme to the hierarchy, but really what I am wanting out of all this discussion is that; for me anyways is to have a way to have something to strive for so I can continually be active in these forms, and this may help others[IDK] to stay in and comment in and have fun at the forms.

I am not trying to break the first or the sixth IRRYDs.

But I like talking on these forums, I also talked quite frequently at the NATION STATES: the North Pacific forums almost daily.But I'm just trying to find a way to keep me interested(and maybe other people interested into talking in the forums.)

Because for me, anyways, if I am not continually interested with new topics or if a topic becomes "the land of the regulars"( those who come in, tout their wisdom, whether it be helpful or not, comes in and says their piece and that will usually shut up the newbie and they'll be gone.)

I'm just trying to think up of another way to maybe try to keep a few more newbies and maybe just take them from uncooked pasta to maybe just maybe your rank. I probably will make it to one of the higher ranks because I have actually set a goal for something that I have written to be put into the Loose Canon.

But like I said before( and no matter what they're called.)( and I don't know how this website gets paid for) once it is all said and done, the leftovers from the sales (to keep this place goin' for the next year,) will be sent to charity.

Speed Demos Archive just did a charity event where they raise over $440,000 in a week of playing games for the Prevent Cancer Foundation. So why can't we just do that here. With something else. but if this website is already paid for by something else then all the money that would be made by this could be sent to charity.

But before I ramble on and on I shall end it here and say this.Thank you for your inputs and maybe future input.and MAY THE PASTA BE WITH YOU, ALWAYS.RAmen

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I have to say I am very impressed and I would love for this system to be implemented. I know one of the major factors of Pastafarianism is not being like other religions, but looking forwards and when our Prophet joins his Noodliness....how will Pastafarianism survive?

For the heirarchy, I know that at least in the Coast Guard, the #1 guy is called the Commandant, so that might be a special title for the highest Admiral.

The real question is what these officials would do, or talk about, or who they would be talking on behalf of... I think we would need more organization of local pastafarian groups (ships), which then band together (fleets), and build geographic/organizational hierarchy naturally that way.

Also, I'd like to point out that the Council of Olive Garden isn't connected to our Prophet, it's more a self-appointed group of people who work on the collection and dissemination of the Loose Canon. I don't think we have much authority beyond the Loose Canon, which isn't even the end-all be-all of Pastafarian literature or scripture.

daftbeaker wrote:But if I stop bugging you I'll have to go back to arguing with Qwerty about whether beauty is truth and precisely what we both mean by 'purple'

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I suggest that when and if the Prophet dies, that he or she be replaced by the Admiral and another Admiral is elected, or we could not. Just putting it out there. Also, I agree with the person above me. We should have an organization of Pastafaraian groups, also we should somehow implement the Council of Olive Garden into this hierarchy.

Zac Reaves wrote:I suggest that when and if the Prophet dies, that he or she be replaced by the Admiral and another Admiral is elected, or we could not. Just putting it out there. Also, I agree with the person above me. We should have an organization of Pastafaraian groups, also we should somehow implement the Council of Olive Garden into this hierarchy.

Hey, long time no see, but anyways to the point in question. I've put this on a semi-indefinite hold. Until it either gets an approval by Bobby or gets accepted by pastafarians en masse. but go ahead and read on what has happened since the last time you were here. I am not trying to stop any discussion about it, but right now there is a big wall. That big wall is both a mass agreement with this, and Bobby showing up here. (Only once in a "purple" Moon.)

but on an other note go ahead and check out the link below. Don't worry it is still within the forums themselves.

Qwertyuiopasd wrote:Attention all Pastafarians! The Council of Olive Garden is seeking submissions to be canonized into the Second Edition of the Loose Canon. If you have any inspiration, revelation, long-lost and recently translated scripture, please contact us! Submissions may be emailed to [email protected], or posted in any of the appropriate threads, and you may PM Platypus Enthusiast, DaveL, Qwertyuiopasd, The Dark Noodle, or Dechujoh64 with any questions, concerns, or comments...Be sure to let us know if you have something to submit, or that you plan to write (er, that is, transcribe), as the deadline is September the 30th. And despair not if you miss the deadline, as the Canon will never truly be finished, there’s always the next edition.

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