Gary at SUSA said the fuse was huge on the ESO. Enough room to go ene-to-end. The only thing that might complicate it is placement of the servo tray. The wing joiner doesn't seem to be a problem since it's so high. At this point, I will most likely go look at them both and decide then since the 1512*** will work in either one. I'm certain there's more than enough room in the Backfire.

Or unless someone suggests a different/better option to consider.

2xTP 2250 4S fits easy he said...he didn't have 2 5S packs to try and they were very busy right now.

It will depend on when the bf was built. I have one of the original fuses and it was a huge pain to work with. I also have a more fuse and it has lots of room. I doubt SSUSA will not know before they receive them what its like, and without seeing them side by side it is very difficult to tell.

The original one was tail heavy, so you had to add TONS of weight to the nose. The new fuse has an elongated nose, but I'm still building it, so I am not sure how much weight it will need. Mine is 8s ice 100 and I added some caps.

Keep it light if you can, I am using 1415 motor, and recommend 14XX series if you can find them.

Yeah, but that was in order to accomodate the old fuse, I think larger may fit now. Honestly, do not order anything until it arrives. I screwed up big time with the bf before settling on my final setup. It was a 1512 1d, ive 200 3s 5500mah. Plane was awesome, but I lost it when a repaired wing saddle let go in flight. I liked that setup better for the weight, but like you, I am hesitant to go with another high amp setup... two new 180's had already burn ed in that plane before I went with the 200, and the 200 was from castle's original batch... which for the superstiious like me, think it was their best vintage.

Well...in retrospect...I guess I need to decide what plane I want and for what purpose before I can actually get anywhere or ask the proper questions. I did confuse some of my info that I based my original post/questions on...I should not be so tired when I post.

At this point I'm leaning more towards the new ESO-E that there is no info on as of yet.

I was rushing to try and figure out what motor I wanted to have Neu build to replace my trusty 1509/1.5D that I destoyed. Right now I will just stick with that since it seems to be one of the most versitile motors. And since I'm not looking for a ballistic Hotliner setup, it may just fit the bill...time will tell.

If I find something about the ESO that causes me to decide against it, I may very well consider the Backfire as an option. When Bob gets them in, I will compare these two planes side-by-side and decide then.