Hello all, I am lucky enough to have purchased a 2000 Camry CNG. I couldn't be happier. However, I'm worried my insurance company won't give me fair market value in case I need to make a claim in the future. I paid $11,000 for her and as we all know, a gasoline powered Camry is worth about $8,500. Does anybody know of any Car and Driver reports or Motorweek reports which list the original price of such vehicles. I don't think my insurance company realizes how much these are worth. KBB and Edmunds don't even know they exist. :confused::confused:

Green GX

05-15-2008, 09:18 AM

Hello all, I am lucky enough to have purchased a 2000 Camry CNG. I couldn't be happier. However, I'm worried my insurance company won't give me fair market value in case I need to make a claim in the future. I paid $11,000 for her and as we all know, a gasoline powered Camry is worth about $8,500. Does anybody know of any Car and Driver reports or Motorweek reports which list the original price of such vehicles. I don't think my insurance company realizes how much these are worth. KBB and Edmunds don't even know they exist. :confused::confused:

One way of documenting current prices would be to find out what other CNG Camry's are selling for on e-bay or other web sites. A lot of web sites tell whether a car is available or "sold." Contact the seller to find out what they sold for. That would probably give you more data points than the Ins. Co. has.

Educate the insurance company by telling them times have changed, gasoline Camry's are a thing of the past, CNG is the wave of the future. ;) How could they argue against that?

Bill

ch4

05-15-2008, 02:46 PM

Found this for a gov fleet

http://www.aqmd.gov/hb/2001/010513a.html

"... Cost ($24,986 per vehicle, including sales tax)"
Prob. a low-ball since they wanted seven...

gringostar

05-17-2008, 01:53 PM

One way of documenting current prices would be to find out what other CNG Camry's are selling for on e-bay or other web sites. A lot of web sites tell whether a car is available or "sold." Contact the seller to find out what they sold for. That would probably give you more data points than the Ins. Co. has.

Educate the insurance company by telling them times have changed, gasoline Camry's are a thing of the past, CNG is the wave of the future. ;) How could they argue against that?

Bill

Problem is, I've only seen one Toyota CNG camry on Ebay in the last year. It was a "buy it now" of $15,999 and nobody 'bought it now.' The problem is the same, there are literally almost none to compare it with. Only having one or two doesn't really constitute proof of fair market value. However, I did recently write to Toyota in Torrance, CA, with the same question. I suppose if anybody knows, they'll know. Thanks for everybody's input.

Techie

05-20-2008, 10:44 PM

I did not know they made a CNG Camry. Is this a conversion or a Toyota OEM?

John Mitton

05-20-2008, 10:54 PM

Toyota OEM, made in Japan. They provided 150 of them in 2000 and another 150 in 2001 to a few fleets in Southern California. SCI provided them with a huge 19 x 40 inch 11+ gge tank for the trunk, which required Toyota to actually do some re-engineering on where they put the suspension system :D But the result is a great range (compare with the Civic GX having an 18 x 35 inch 8.5gge tank)!

Toyota also produces a CNG vehicle for the Japan market. It is a boxy-looking sedan called the "Probox" powered by a 1.5 liter dedicated CNG engine which sells around 500 units per year.

Techie

05-20-2008, 11:05 PM

Toyota OEM, made in Japan. They provided 150 of them in 2000 and another 150 in 2001 to a few fleets in Southern California. SCI provided them with a huge 19 x 40 inch 11+ gge tank for the trunk, which required Toyota to actually do some re-engineering on where they put the suspension system :D But the result is a great range (compare with the Civic GX having an 18 x 35 inch 8.5gge tank)!

Toyota also produces a CNG vehicle for the Japan market. It is a boxy-looking sedan called the "Probox" powered by a 1.5 liter dedicated CNG engine which sells around 500 units per year.

You are very lucky to get one of those. I have never seen one. I am just entertaining of converting one, but parts are so hard to get....

gringostar

05-22-2008, 08:04 PM

You are very lucky to get one of those. I have never seen one. I am just entertaining of converting one, but parts are so hard to get....
I read the same thing you did. In fact, I found a car magazine with the same specs and it included the original sales price of the 2000 CNG. Problem is, I can't find that link anymore.

CNG MOTORS

05-22-2008, 08:12 PM

I've sold 5 of these. Have your insurance co. call me. I get these calls all the time from insurance companies who insure you bad Utah drivers that wreck your CNG vehicles. I'll put it on the money, but it's definately worth more than $8500

moore101

05-23-2008, 03:12 PM

Welcome to the rare Camry club! There are at least two other members on this site that have CNG Camrys'. Feel free to post any questions you have about your car. I plan on keeping mine till the wheels fall off and am currently upgrading it from a fleet special. 16" OEM toyota wheels and tires, upgraded interior and going to add a moonroof shortly.

If you live in so cal there is going to be a car show that us CNG guys will have our own spot and I plan on going.

http://www.cngchat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289&highlight=thunder

gringostar

05-24-2008, 09:06 PM

Welcome to the rare Camry club! There are at least two other members on this site that have CNG Camrys'. Feel free to post any questions you have about your car. I plan on keeping mine till the wheels fall off and am currently upgrading it from a fleet special. 16" OEM toyota wheels and tires, upgraded interior and going to add a moonroof shortly.

If you live in so cal there is going to be a car show that us CNG guys will have our own spot and I plan on going.

http://www.cngchat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289&highlight=thunder

Hi, Thank you. So, what do you about insurance and fair market value? My insurance tells me that if there is a claim, they will base the claim on FMV. What did you tell your insurance? As you know, only 300 were made. I'm in Long Beach. I may see you at the show. :-:

moore101

05-24-2008, 11:50 PM

I am not sure what my ins company will do or what the car is valued at. I will check next week and find out for sure.

Xray

06-03-2008, 08:17 AM

Here Here
I believe the CNG Camry was considered an experimental car. My insurance co. could not find the V.I.N. It didn`t exist. They did insure it but you all make a good point about the cars insured value.
I too will drive my Camry till the wheels fall off

gringostar

06-09-2008, 06:02 PM

Hi,

I wrote to Toyota and got it! The original sales price was $22,680 while the gasoline-version base model was $18,318.

jetboatjohnny

07-25-2008, 05:34 PM

This morning at the Anaheim station a 2000 Camry pulled in to fuel, and I told the guy about our site. He asked about my fuel capacity, and I told him about 6gge, and then told him the tank expires in 2014 (his 2015) and he had no clue!

gringostar

08-05-2008, 10:42 AM

This morning at the Anaheim station a 2000 Camry pulled in to fuel, and I told the guy about our site. He asked about my fuel capacity, and I told him about 6gge, and then told him the tank expires in 2014 (his 2015) and he had no clue!

I purposely ran my Toyota out and then filled it up with 9.4 gge. The tank is huge. The fuel gage is faulty.

jetboatjohnny

08-05-2008, 12:25 PM

The capacity is supposed to be 11 GGE right?
Can you tell me what the water volume is on your tank?