The real question is does the quran, the foundation of Islamic practice and belief, promote this kind of violence.

In other words, can a muslim find justification in his or her, so called " holy book " for what took place to this British Soldier.

I am baffled that anyone who reads this book, does not see that this un-holy book, allows for this hermeneutical interpretation, hence allows for this type of muslim or follower.

The truth is, these two murderers,can be considered legitimate followers of islam and the quran.And who has the authority to say otherwise.

It's founder, muhammed, left no authorized, collected book.He left no Interpretation for this book.He left no rightful successor following his death.He left no schools of Islamic Jurisprudence.

Reality is these two were muslims,and could be called purists or orthodox in practice!

Supported and backed by certain Imams and Islamic leaders, across the globe, and is supported under certain schools of what is called, Sharia or Islamic Law.Not to mention practiced and authorized by Islam's founder Muhammed, his favorite wife Aisha, and his original followers.

I think it is rather dishonest and disingenuous, for a muslim to read these following verses in their book and not accept that jihad and violence, such as committed against this British soldier, can actually be justified and even authorized in the quran!

Quran 5:33 The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

Quran 8:12 (Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."

Why are we surprised when the mainstream media does everything within its power to protect Islam?

A cult created by the Prince of this world? Don't forget that our so-called leaders also serve and even worship this being behind closed doors. Why do you think the ten rulers in the Book of Revelation willingly give their authority to the Anti-Christ to launch one final attack on Israel and kill all the Jews. None of our so-called leaders are Christian, many are in Secret Societies that serve the "Cause" and want to bring about "The Great Plan". Who controls the media, politics, education system and so on in America? Is it not Satan and his human agents?

There is something very sinister going on here. This certainly transcends "political correctness". The elites aren't fools. The difference between them and Muslims is that they willingly worship Satan while Muslims think they worship the God of the Bible but in reality worship the Devil. Finally, google "Albert Pike's three dreams". Islam is being used for far more sinister ends.

Anjem is a sick sick man! What's weird is that he fails to realize that he has to abide by the Law of the Land and not by what he believes in. And regarding the other bearded guy, he said that Islam is not all about jihad etc etc and that he condemns Lee's killing....well news flash Mr. Imam, jihad and acts of terrorism IS a part of your religion!! You CAN NOT neglect or exclude bits and pieces of ur Qur'an. Either you believe in the whole book or you don't. Its as simple as that. I think its about time that ALL of the Christian nations open their eyes and recognize their enemies start taking Islam VERY seriously!

We laugh in their faces while our hearts curse the, I was watching the news yesterday and I saw Anjem Choudry saying that he knew the guy that did that and that he was a peaceful and calm guy, I couldn't understand what he was trying to prove but I bet that he was screaming within his heart "Allahu akbar" as many Muslims did! People it's time to call things for what they are, Islam is not a religion it's a bloodthirsty ideology and must be eradicated before it destroys humanity, and saying that protecting the peaceful Muslims will help to end the problems, that is a trash talk, the problem is with Islam and not muslims, what I am trying to say is that this "peaceful Muslims" one day they will end up being what the criticize as bad Muslims of course when they realise what Islam teaches!

Yea nice one BBC get three muslims on the show to get them to condemn the attack. That will work out brilliantly. Unless of course they are deceiving you. How about next time you get at least one person who has no bias on the subject someone like David Wood here? Please come to the UK more often David despite claims that we are in stage 2 jihad if you come to the northeast of England You could stand in the middle of Newcastle city centre and give your presentation on what we all need to know about islam and not a single Muslim would dare stop you. My government may try to stop free speech but the northeast people won't stop the truth being heard. Truth be told we are getting sick of our government lying to us.

The appeasement of Muslims will destroy journalism, one career at a time.

It is a sad day for the press when journalists and reporters believe that they cannot report accurately what their sources tell them. Unfortunately, Nick Robinson's apology now places everything he reports in serious question because his journalism will now be seen as nothing more than politically correct spin.

He would have been better served to stand by his reporting of the accuracy of a statement made by a source than to apologize for having reported it. If the BBC fired him for refusing to apologize, at least he would have maintained his integrity which is a reporter's sole stock-in-trade. I'm afraid that this act of political correctness will be the beginning of the end of Mr. Robinson's career.

"It seems that some Muslims using liberal media are repeating the same script they go to, in order to justify when Muslims practice Islam on the Kuffar like what happened in Woolwich a few days ago. Below is one such attempt I have seen re-posted on a Muslim blog.

“While nothing can justify the savage killing in Woolwich yesterday of a man since confirmed to have been a serving British soldier, it should not be hard to explain why the murder happened. . . . It should by now be self-evident that by attacking Muslims overseas, you will occasionally spawn twisted and, as we saw yesterday, even murderous hatred at home. We need to recognise that, given the continued role our government has chosen to play in the US imperial project in the Middle East, we are lucky that these attacks are so few and far between.”

If you encounter Muslims repeating this tired old excuse I have re worded it and flipped the script on them. Please feel free to copy and paste as necessary.

“While nothing can justify the savage attacks on mosques over the last few days by men since confirmed to be members of the EDL, it should not be hard to explain why these attacks have occurred. . . . It should by now be self-evident that by Muslims either blowing up buses or hacking to death British soldiers on British soil, you will occasionally spawn twisted and, as we seen over the past few days, even violent hatred at home. We need to recognize that, given the continued role that some British Muslim citizens have chosen to play in the seditious traitorous Jihadi attacks on British soil, we are lucky that these attacks are so few and far between.”

I respect anjem for his honesty unlike the deceptive so called peaceful muslims that will lure the west into a false sense of security. that aside, those who are in Christ, let us pray that God will grant repentance to anjem, that he may use his zeal to God's glory rather than Satan

This host is such a disgraceful woman. She strongly wants to believe that islam does not condone what we saw in the videos. One would expect that a decent and intelligent interviewer will try and find out what is responsible for this cowardly act. Only recently BBC was threatened with violence if they air a documentary critical of islam and its prophet by so called moderate and radical alike- these same cowards trying to whitewash islam immediately cancelled the broadcast. A kindergarten question that anybody would ask is - is there anything in the quran or islam that justifies this horrendous act? That would have been a more sensible question, rather than listening to two people lying copiously about islam. If these two really feel bad about what happened then their morality and sense of judgement is superior to mohammeds and should immediately leave the religion of "peace"Anlem choudry is the only one telling the truth here.

I was listening to the dividing line and Dr. White made a profound statement.

After the horror and disgust over this man, his hands still wet with blood, and his diatribe for imagined slights against muslims because he fails to see casualties of war as anything other than personal (thanks to the koran) we needed to see something else.

Saul also stood bloodied in christian blood of Stephen as he held the coats of those stoning the first martyr of christianity.

This man is a reflection of depravity in all men and it is only the goodness of God that restrains us.

We should remember that as well and pray God save him and that his conscious us not so seared he can't be brought to repentance.

"“These people claimed they killed the soldier in the name of protecting others from UK foreign policy. But if what they claim is true, they have acted no differently from the crimes they claim they wish to see stopped.”"

So it is a crime for British soldiers to defend British citizens.

It never ceases to amaze me that when ever Muslims try to make Islam look good they make it look that much worse?

"Perhaps there is some British Legal Expert who can inform us as to the discrepancy between “racially aggravated assault” and “terrorism”. The scales seem to be quite unequal in dealing with incidents of these sort."

There even whining about it being labeled as terrorism. Simply amazing

I am startled by this statement by bloodyHands:"You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? You think politicians are going to die? No, it’s going to be the average guy, like you and your children. So get rid of them.""Busting our guns?!" I think the mosques need to be raided, searched. This is a major threat. This is razzia. For centuries it was successfully used on the islamic frontiers to wear down the populace.

Blogguy said, ""Busting our guns?!" I think the mosques need to be raided, searched. This is a major threat. This is razzia. For centuries it was successfully used on the islamic frontiers to wear down the populace."

Problem is, the camel's nose is already in the tent. Joining the other camels already there.

I guess you could start deporting muslims, I personally would love to see Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco be forced to take back all the ingrates that moved to this country.

The people would know why it was though they'd scream racism and get their ugly mugs in front of every camera they could find.

They couldn't fund terrorism because they'd have to figure out how to deal with all the displaced muslims now applying for government aid, living on top of each other.

Although something tells me they be petitioning the US for more money as 'compensation for muslims slights' and our stupid administration would pay it with interest.

No, there's not an answer to this aside from preaching the gospel and praying God will open hearts and minds or super restrain the evil he's already holding back.

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