tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post170193806658161719..comments2020-06-06T19:15:06.887+01:00Comments on David Lindsay: Sovereign Integrity?David Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-26388455710308821912013-09-08T21:38:44.876+01:002013-09-08T21:38:44.876+01:00Very evidently, I do. And you know that I do. For ...Very evidently, I do. And you know that I do. For that matter, Roger Helmer knows that I do.<br /><br />But whereas ALEC may be, just about, within the acceptable bounds of his former party, is it really within those of his present party?<br /><br />No one else in it seems to think so, since no one else in it is also in an organisation which uses the European Parliament to enact legislation designed by corporate America to be enacted in identical form by every American state legislature.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-10830980782742138352013-09-08T21:24:26.809+01:002013-09-08T21:24:26.809+01:00And yet it is happening
No, it isn&#39;t. And yo...<i>And yet it is happening</i><br /><br />No, it isn&#39;t. And you haven&#39;t a clue what the hell you&#39;re talking about.Andrew Shakespearenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-47185709688213120262013-09-08T21:19:43.577+01:002013-09-08T21:19:43.577+01:00The idea that people could order a state legislatu...<i>The idea that people could order a state legislature to pass this or that legislation goes against the whole point of state legislatures</i><br /><br />Quite.<br /><br />And yet it is happening.<br /><br />With these people using the European Parliament as an American state legislature for the purpose.<br /><br />Effectively relegating the United Kingdom to an American county.<br /><br />Please spell my name correctly. This site is not &quot;edited&quot; by Damian Thompson.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-78120590302911680632013-09-08T21:05:21.574+01:002013-09-08T21:05:21.574+01:00“It is a body of State Legislators who undertake t...“<i>It is a body of State Legislators who undertake to ensure that their respective states all adopt identical legislation drafted by that body’s corporate backers.</i>”<br /><br />I have lost patience with your blog right there, on the fifth paragraph. You see, unlike you, Mr Lindsey, I have actually lived in the United States, for four years. And quite frankly, the idea that any state — any state at all — would meekly rubber stamp some bill just because they’ve been instructed to by some group that nobody elected, consisting of people who, for the most part, aren’t from the state, or who aren’t even American, is simply absurd.<br /><br />The idea that people could order a state legislature to pass this or that legislation goes against the whole point of state legislatures, which is that the states can adapt to local issues and maintain an individuality; a very necessary provision in uniting a country of 300 million across ten time zones, and one of the big reasons why the EU will never succeed in imposing a political union on us all.<br /><br />Occasionally, the federal government does try to muscle in on the states’ rights. It is almost always universally resented. It’s rather like the Westminster government saying to Wales, “I know we gave you power to grant free prescriptions, but we’re going to intervene to stop you doing so.” The reaction would, inevitably, be, “Get stuffed.”<br /><br />You mentioned “laughable,” Mr Lindsay? That proposition alone is so laughable, I’ve lost all interest. You&#39;re talking bollocks.Andrew Shakespearenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-20514305606096728692013-09-07T00:03:32.995+01:002013-09-07T00:03:32.995+01:00If you really are Roger Helmer (Blogger originally...If you really are Roger Helmer (Blogger originally sent the comment to Spam), or even if you are not, how can using the European Parliament to enact legislation drafted for American State Legislatures by American-based transnational corporations be an expression of the principle of national sovereignty?<br /><br />Jefferson believed so strongly in families that he had two at once, a white one and a black one.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-36619506037350079722013-08-27T02:28:14.587+01:002013-08-27T02:28:14.587+01:00Something like that, yes, now that you mention it....Something like that, yes, now that you mention it.<br /><br />But it couldn&#39;t name ALEC, because then they would just pull some kind of trick. It would have to be cleverer than that.<br /><br />Could be done, though. And therefore should be done.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-79188656549691380122013-08-27T02:20:43.037+01:002013-08-27T02:20:43.037+01:00In your scheme for &quot;the disapplication in the...In your scheme for &quot;the disapplication in the United Kingdom of anything passed by the European Parliament but not by the majority of those MEPs certified as politically acceptable by one or more seat-taking members of the House of Commons&quot; would there be a further specific ban on members of ALEC even if one or more MPs, e.g. Liam Fox, wanted them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-86351846059443011842013-08-26T07:27:28.531+01:002013-08-26T07:27:28.531+01:00Maybe you should try to find out a little about AL...Maybe you should try to find out a little about ALEC before you sound off, David. ALEC is dedicated to Jeffersonian principles, which explicitly include not only free markets and limited government, but also &quot;family and nation&quot;. I am proud to be associated with ALEC. Feel free to mention my name. ROGER HELMER MEP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-18265304121926651312013-08-25T21:09:24.947+01:002013-08-25T21:09:24.947+01:00And, according to rather a high-powered email just...And, according to rather a high-powered email just received, Iris Evans, Minister of International and Intergovernmental Relations for Alberta. But again, that is unclear.<br /><br />And ALEC&#39;s ties with Liam Fox seem to have been cut, although it is quite outrageous that he was in the Cabinet if he ever had them. In any case, the links that are the real problem with him are his ones to Israel.<br /><br />That still leaves the overwhelming majority of ALEC&#39;s &quot;International&quot; members in the European Parliament, mostly for the ECR and predominantly for the British Conservative Party.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-64461075270759975002013-08-25T20:58:07.944+01:002013-08-25T20:58:07.944+01:00There is also a possibility that Jordanian MP Reem...There is also a possibility that Jordanian MP Reem Badran, head of investment development for the Arab League, is a member of ALEC.<br /><br />But you would be right, she is not as clearly so as the people you refer to. Interesting that there is no apparent suggestion of anyone from ALEC in the Knesset.<br /><br />This post is what proper journalism looks like. Thank you so much for it. Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com