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Savage Model 19..?

Savage Model 19..?

I am not sure but I think NRA .22? It looks like an 03 Springfield, adjustable aperture rear sights, stocked to within 3 1/2 inches from muzzle, bent bolt, grasping grooves, flat metal swivels located under forestock and buttstock, SN#21232, mag holds five rounds, has release tab underneath..says SAVAGE SPORTER. Beautiful ding free walnut stock..butt plate is steel with horizontal grooves and oval Savage logo at bottom. Also has the hole in front of trigger guard for adjusting trigger pull. Cocks on closing. Made in Utica, NY. Only stamping other than the Utica and patent dates is 22 long rifle. Searches reveal some confusion on what this is..Model 1919, Model 19NRA...it's a real nice example..snagged it at the flea market!!

Not completely sure, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that these were purely commercial, not used as a military trainer, but often sold that way. And they certainly look the part. Dead ringer for a 1903 if I remember. I have seen several on the auctions. Can't find one right now, but I think they are usually about $250 +/- in decent condition. Post a pic for us when you get a chance.

That would be it...mine does not have a Lyman sight..just the adjustable peep....very well made .22. I made the mistake of revealing this score to TexRaid...and noe he is doing his best to talk me out of it..but HoosierDaddy ALWAYS gets first dibs!!!

They were designed to capitalize on the growing public fascination with the shooting sports in America after WW1. They filled a need for a nice inexpensive target rifle and would appeal to returning doughboys with its military style.

Anyone know where I can find an original (No.6 NRA) front sight for an early Savage 1919 NRA? Mine is the pre-'33 full-stocked version as shown in the pics
posted by Larry above, but it came to me with a Redfield globe sight instead of the original tall undercut Patridge blade. I could also use an original front
sling swivel, as the one on mine is an obvious replacement. Numrich wasn't any help and I have a call into Garry Fellers, but would rather rely on your
experience if you know of a good source.

Several years ago I ran across a thread with photos of a very strange and unheard of Savage marked rifle some fellow had aquired. It was in .303 British and
used a Enfield ten shot magazine but had nothing in common with any military rifle I'd ever seen though its stock was in a military style not unlike that
of the model 19 rifles shown here.

Near as I can remember it had front locking lugs and a straight cylinder receiver. The firing pin sleeve was almost entirely enclosed at the rear of the
receiver much like the early Savage sporting rifles.

The gun was missing its trigger guard, but was otherwise complete. Not sure if it had no serial numer or a very low one, if placed like the number of my 23B
the serial number would be nearly or completely covered by the stock.

Possibly a one off experimental rifle or more likely a custom built gun using a action I'm unfamilar with modified to take the Enfield mag and perhaps a
stock from a model 19.

I not seen any further news on that rifle and its origin.

There were a number of attempts to design a super light .303 rifle for the British, I've seen photos of several of the known prototypes. The rifle that
finally entered production for a short while was a No.5 action fitted with a very slim 23 inch barrel and with action strap removed and modified to fit a one
piece stock. The engineered wood of the stocks apparently didn't hold up to moisture and those rifles were withdrawn and issued to Canadian animal control
and constables.

I remember a local store had one in unissued condition for sale for $35 back in the late 50's or early 60's, I think Sears imported them.

One entry in the light rifle design competition used a highly modified P14 action and resembled the Savage marked rifle I mentioned.

With the long standing connection between Savage and the British its not unlikely that they worked up a rifle design or two for them.
The mystery rifle looked as if it would have been relatively cheap to manufacture and perhaps stronger than the Enfield.

Anyway thats a lot of speculation based on very little in the way of evidence.