American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI

Ok, I don't even know what to think of this one. Looks like a bunch of Christians walk into a predominately Muslim festival, if I am understanding
this right, and well...watch for yourself what happens.

They get stoned, egged, bottled, and cursed at by American Muslims. The police, outnumbered by a lot, are put in the position of having to escort the
Christian group out. Even though they aren't the ones throwing the stuff!

So what is right here? Who is right here? The video guy makes some excellent points like "They can't give us two officers to protect us, but they
sure can get 14 to lead us out!"

But I figured this one might provide an interesting conversation piece for the political madness forum- cause this is madness, if nothing else. Both
sides have a right, but the police must make decisions based on manpower... Bizarre.

If a Christian group was crashing a Muslim festival, they obviously had some point of contention and expected backlash. They also seemed to expect
the police to protect them. Why?

Natural consequences, if I throw trash in your yard, you have every right to kick it back in mine, and if it escalates and you kick my ass..... fine.
That is what happens to people when they pick fights, eventually they get their ass kicked.

Originally posted by DoctorMobius
What do you expect from dark skinned people. It's how they respond, try and call me racist or try to prove me wrong. Either way you lose....

Really? You think it would be difficult to prove violence is not specific to dark-skinned people? I'm pretty sure I could pull out about a 1000
stories proving you wrong.

I'll tell you a quick one from my little hometown area here. Happened in the 1950's when a young black boy made the egregious error of giving a
birthday card to a little white girl in his class. The father of the white girl found the card, and him and a group of upstanding citizens proceeded
to take the boy, tie his hands and feet, march him to a bluff over the Suwanee River, and subdue his mother and father and made them watch as the boy
was forced to jump into the river. He of course drowned and died, because he told a white girl happy birthday. This was not that long ago.

But I suppose it was still his fault somehow for being dark-skinned?

I'm probably one of the most open people on ATS about race, and I'll admit my racist tendencies in a second, because I believe we all have them, but
what you said is just ludicrous.

If I'm having a celebration for some reason, and someone ideologically opposed to me wants to come and crash it and ruin my good time, I'm going to
toss some stuff at them too! The Christians obviously showed up there to pick a fight, and they got one, and then they cried to the police for
protection. Stupid.

If Muhammad taught his followers that jiahd was second only to believing in Allah, that non Muslims should be humbled and submit to Islam and he
himself stated he would fight until everyone admitted there was no god but Allah (he in fact conquered the Arabian peninsula before he died with
armies of up to 12,000 men), in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?

Right to peaceably assemble? Silly me, I forgot that right doesn't extend to Christians anymore.

Our definitions of "peacably" are probably drastically different. Holding hateful signs and shouting through a megaphone are not peaceful in my
opinion, and neither is a group of people intent on disrupting another group of people.

The rights guaranteed in the Constitution came at a time when people had personal responsibility and common sense. The peaceable assembly they had in
mind were religious gatherings, chambers of commerce, educational groups, etc. The oppression they were trying to avoid was the oppression of
knowledge and religion. They would never have approved of something like this chaotic scene. They would have agreed that the idiots deserved to be
pummeled with stones. At the time of the Constitution people still dueled with pistols! You think this level of disrespect would have been
tolerated? Hell no!

Text Tensions flared Friday evening at the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn as members of some Christian missionary groups —
including one called the Bible Believers — taunted Arab Americans with a pig’s head and signs that promoted hatred of Islam.“You’re gonna burn
in hell,” one missionary shouted at a group of young Arab-American boys listening to him speak on Warren Avenue, where the festival takes
place.

Some of the signs the missionaries held read: "Islam is a religion of blood and murder" and "Muhammad (Islam's prophet) is a ... liar, false
prophet, murderer, child molesting pervert

If this is the same group, and I'm sure it is, They werent there just for fun, they had a cause. They were spouting hate. They were carrying a
freakin' pigs head! Do they deserved to be stoned?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Wow, has a single one of you even watched the whole video yet?

:shk:

Oh. Boi.

Hey, I watched the first 3 minutes!! Well, actually I watched about 30 seconds, then skipped ahead to the megaphone bit, then skipped ahead to some
cute little brown girl screaming at them to just go home, and then skipped to a group of guys talking about either leaving or kicking their ass, and
then I saw some stuff get thrown, but all in all it was about 3 minutes.

BS and you know it. If I stand in front of your house, in the street, with a legal permit, and I shout hateful things at you. You should kick my
ass. You have every right to kick my ass. The law might say otherwise, but you and I are men, and we know better. If you did kick my ass, and my
brother and friends show up to defend me, and you tell them what happened, they will say that I deserved it, and they will drag my sorry ass home.
There is "legal" and there is "right" and I tend to follow what is right and let the legalities take care of themselves.

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