First of all i should start by saying that my account is VAC banned. This account is not mine, but it is my older brothers that moved to college. I havn't ever hacked but apparently he had and so I'm banned :/ I was going to suggest that after a certain amount of days after the VAC ban, depending on how serious the offense was, should be able to play on VAC servers again. Thanks, Joker

depending on how serious the offense was, should be able to play on VAC servers again.

VAC bans only for cheats, what other offenses can there be?

And all cheaters deserve to be banned permanently, should always think through of what they're doing before doing it.

i think the OP was vac ban to judge wether someone uses wallhack or aimbot or something else as if it makes any difference what kind of cheat you use, maybe in the mind of the OP there are levels of cheating i on the other hand cant really see the difference.. i mean.. does it matter that he uses wh or aimbot, i still lose either way right? maybe the OP should learn about mp gaming ethics before attempting to cheat :)

Im vac banned, I came home one day to play cs:s like 4 years ago and had a message saying they banned me for hacks. I have never cheated on a steam game. period.

I would love to be able to play VAC games again, but if they cant remove my ban when I have done nothing wrong I dont care to spend my money on theyre games. Damn shame too since Xbox has made a killing these last few years.

Im vac banned, I came home one day to play cs:s like 4 years ago and had a message saying they banned me for hacks. I have never cheated on a steam game. period.

I would love to be able to play VAC games again, but if they cant remove my ban when I have done nothing wrong I dont care to spend my money on theyre games. Damn shame too since Xbox has made a killing these last few years.

Thanks Valve/VAC/Whoever banned me, I truely appreciate it.....

And the Steam community really appreciate the VAC system for banning cheaters and help keeping fair games for us all

It doesn't matter HOW you cheat. You are ruining fun for other players. It's something like making a street party in the middle of the night -- you are ruining the night for everyone in the neighborhood.

Im vac banned, I came home one day to play cs:s like 4 years ago and had a message saying they banned me for hacks. I have never cheated on a steam game. period.

I would love to be able to play VAC games again, but if they cant remove my ban when I have done nothing wrong I dont care to spend my money on theyre games. Damn shame too since Xbox has made a killing these last few years.

Thanks Valve/VAC/Whoever banned me, I truely appreciate it.....

And the Steam community really appreciate the VAC system for banning cheaters and help keeping fair games for us all :D:

Im serious when i say i dont cheat. I was banned years ago for being on a cs:s surf server when a hacker joined the server they banned me. no clue why but thats the only explanation i can come up with.

And the Steam community really appreciate the VAC system for banning cheaters and help keeping fair games for us all

Im serious when i say i dont cheat. I was banned years ago for being on a cs:s surf server when a hacker joined the server they banned me. no clue why but thats the only explanation i can come up with.

Oh I'm serious too. But there is so many ways you could get banned, beside it could be that you cheated a couple of days before you joined a server (VAC bans are delayed)

Anyway maybe it wasen't you that cheated, but someonw who had access to your account cheated

Im the only one who uses my personal steam account. I know i had nothing on my personal computer bannable.

and unless they consider diablo 2(a non steam game) vac bannable i dont think a simple dual loader could harm anything. I have no reason to cheat, so the fact that im truely banned for no reason is ♥♥♥♥ed. I just get tossed around in the system if i try to get answers.

Steam is no better than microsoft when it comes to help they just let the phone ring and turn off the ringer. If it wasnt for the fact i need steam to play some of my non vac games, i wouldnt even bother anymore.

Im the only one who uses my personal steam account. I know i had nothing on my personal computer bannable.

and unless they consider diablo 2(a non steam game) vac bannable i dont think a simple dual loader could harm anything. I have no reason to cheat, so the fact that im truely banned for no reason is ♥♥♥♥ed. I just get tossed around in the system if i try to get answers.

Steam is no better than microsoft when it comes to help they just let the phone ring and turn off the ringer. If it wasnt for the fact i need steam to play some of my non vac games, i wouldnt even bother anymore.

you need to go read up on how vac ban works because u are clearly under the assumption that its a person that banned you.

vac ban detects different signature used in different cheats / hacks they come from when u modify the exe or the .dll so something u had on your pc matched the signature of a cheat.

also vac bans are delayed to avoid cheat/hacks getting updated as soon as they are getting busted by vac ban..