CHAIR —Some information was provided at a prehearing briefing, and I believe that Mr Harper wishes to table material on the matter. Mr Harper —I table, for the information of the committee, some information about the expected cost bands for a number of our capital projects. CHAIR —Thank you. We

CHAIR —I declare open this meeting of the Senate Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Legislation Committee. We will first consider the particulars of proposed expenditure for the Department of Defence and then mid-evening the Department of Veterans' Affairs. I welcome Senator Ian Macdonald, the minister representing the Minister for Defence,

CHAIR —We now move to the particulars of proposed expenditure for the Department of Defence, and I welcome again Senator Newman and officers of the Department of Defence. The committee has before it a list of topics nominated by senators for consideration by the Department of Defence at these supplementary

Senator HOGG —Chair, could I just ask a point of clarification—I think Mr Corey would be the best to help me. There are a number of sections at the back of this booklet under the heading `Department of Defence, section 4, supplementary information'. Mr Corey —Have you got a page,

Senator QUIRKE —In written answers provided to the committee following the last hearing, there was an outline of the number of unauthorised discharges of weapons by ADF personnel in East Timor. Can you tell me how many of those or what proportion were accidental and how many were deliberate? Air

Senator QUIRKE —Thank you very much, Chairman. Air, land and maritime HQs are to be co-located with the headquarters of the Australian Theatre; is that correct? Air Vice Marshal Treloar —That is correct, Senator. Senator QUIRKE —Where is the new facility likely to be and when will that decision be

ACTING CHAIR (Senator Ferris) —I declare open this meeting of the Senate Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Legislation Committee. I welcome back the Minister, Senator Newman, and officers of the Department of Defence. The committee will return to consideration of the particulars of proposed expenditure for the Department of Defence