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I recommend asking on the European Delivery forum since you're doing ED. Also don't sweat the $$$ as much - $500 here or there on a $100K car is only 0.5%. Instead, focus on service and competency of your CA and dealer IMO.

I picked up my 750 Li at the Welt in late April. I "think" the deal was ok, considering dealers rarely discount new models. MSRP was about 97k. Got it with European Delivery for 88k (Northern California dealer from whom I've purchased cars in the past). The E/D experience was great. Didn't really drive the car around (I've done that before). But the Welt, the factory tour and the BMW Museum were all spectacular, as was Munich. Great city; amazing beer and beer gardens!

I have a new 750i (Sports package, virtually all options, black) with 600 miles and an engine malfunction warning and a badly missing engine. I have followed the EMF warnings here and will post as to my experience. My previous car was a CL55, and the comparisons between the two are interesting (to me): CL more torquey, raw; 750 more technical, better features, and more comfortable. With this failure (just an inconvenience, but annoying with less than 1K), I realize that I like, but do not love, the car.

Dealer here is strong (Grayson), and I have a good relationship with them through employee purchases and a prior 740. I will post fix details as they occur.

The issue was perhaps solved with a hard, power-off computer reboot. I have another thousand miles on the car and it is fine, although it still makes me think the underlying issue (software?) may still be out there.

Hayden,
A dealership is offering me 09 750 Li ED with every option except for night vision for $99,705 (MSRP $111,420). Compare to your deal i don't think i'm getting a good deal, am i? How do i bargain for lower price or if i'm leasing how do i get a good deal with low monthly payment.

These are all simply invoice prices + the dealer profit as stated. Theoretically you can do better since most members suggest you should only need to pay between $500- $1000 to the dealer, vs. my $1700.

The pricing I sent you is the best possible price, we do not sell the 7 Series for wholesale cost, we are only making $2k profit on the deal. Actually when we do a Euro Delivery it does come out of our allocation as well as an additional unit.

Also, I have alreay submitted the paperwork and the car has started production so I cannot change it. I was just emailed by the ED department and your confirmed delivery date is 9/5/09. They should be sending you a CC with it as well very soon.

$2k is a lot. So I assume they reduced the price by $925 to claim that the profit is only $2k?

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Actually when we do a Euro Delivery it does come out of our allocation as well as an additional unit.

I suspect that's a lie. I would ask one of the CA's on the board, or call BMW ED department to confirm that and also check on the "status" of your car to see if it indeed has already been produced. 800-932-0831. My guess is it has, since I have a 8/27 delivery and my car went into production last Friday.

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Also, I have alreay submitted the paperwork and the car has started production so I cannot change it.

They can change the price anytime they want before you sign the final purchase agreement. The PO you signed doesn't have pricing.

The dealership is saying that a Bulletin was recently issued for all ED cars to come out of their allotment. They won't show me the Bulleting but they claim that's why my order is coming from their allocation.

I just received my VIN and the tracking shows "Scheduled for Production" so now i need to gather all the information i need to get the best deal possible. I got really screwed on my first lease so i'm being extra, extra, extra careful and watchful this time.

Not sure if i should ask this question here but
how do i determine if i'm getting the correct percentage or Residual value?
How do i determine the money factor (MF) or the lease interest rate?
If i do Multiple Security Deposit (MSD) how do i ensure is refundable or return at lease end?
Since i'm a returning BMWFS customer i can skip the Security Deposit (SD) but what if the dealership insist on SD as requirement for the lease?
Lastly, what figure should i look for on the paperwork? the $99,705 ED that i'm being offered or the $111,420 MSRP?

I just received my VIN and the tracking shows "Scheduled for Production" so now i need to gather all the information i need to get the best deal possible.

Call the automated line at (800) 831-1117 to verify. Sometimes the website is not updated. If you are indeed "scheduled for production" that means it hasn't started yet, but I'm sure its just a matter of days for your delivery date.

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how do i determine if i'm getting the correct percentage or Residual value?

WOW! That's a lot of useful information you've given me. I had no clue about any of these stuff. No wonder I got screwed big time on my first and current lease.

I was just asked to come in and sign the PO and stuff. Is the PO different from the lease agreement?
Can I sign the PO now and then the lease agreement later?
I heard I can wait atleast two weeks prior to the delivery date before I sign the lease. Does that hold water or the dealership can insist I close everything now?

Thanks a bunch for all the information you have given me. I feel so empowered and educated now you have no idea.

I was just asked to come in and sign the PO and stuff. Is the PO different from the lease agreement?

The PO is just the European Delivery "Purchase Order". It is not the purchase agreement and has no pricing information on it. It simply verifies your car, color, options and pick-up date. You will need to sign that soon, and provide a deposit of between $500 - $1000.

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Can I sign the PO now and then the lease agreement later? I heard I can wait atleast two weeks prior to the delivery date before I sign the lease. Does that hold water or the dealership can insist I close everything now?

You don't want to sign the lease paperwork now, because that will start your lease now. Two weeks is ok, but I will be going in 7 days prior to pickup to sign the paperwork. That means I will be paying my lease for 7 days before I even have the car. (In addition to the weeks waiting for it to arrive back from Europe... although BMW will make 1 payment on your behalf) However, I do suggest you get your final settled pricing and figures in writing. That way you wont have to worry about anything changing between now and then.

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Thanks a bunch for all the information you have given me. I feel so empowered and educated now you have no idea.

Happy to help. Check out the European Delivery forum and wiki. They provide lots of great information.