Political Stalemate

Date posted - September 25, 2013

What is wrong with the so called leaders of this Country? If they can’t reach an agreement on a Spending Bill, they will continue receiving their wages, even though many other areas will be affected. Their wages should be the FIRST thing to stop until they reach some sort of an agreement. In the History of this country, there has never been so much dissent among the Parties. It seems any form of compromise between parties is sure death for the one crossing the party lines. It is time to clean up the mess and start over.

23 Responses to “Political Stalemate”

Rachel Maddow (and I know a lot of you don’t like her ) charted on a graph every time we had a recession, the parties got farther apart. It was most noticeable during the Great Depression, also noticeable during a few smaller recessions we’ve had since. And the most difficulties in getting things done were during these recessions and the Depression. So looking at her graph, once we get back on better footing in the economy, the parties will start to work better together. She says its because there is so much more at stake, and every party believes they would do it the best and the other party believes that also. I agree with her. Dr. Maddow has her Phd in Political Science.

Thanks. Lots of people, especially when they all think similar, begin to believe that others don’t want the same thing. We all want our country to be the best it can be. We all love this country. And we want the same things. But I start from a different spot than a conservative. That’s why the founding fathers set our government up the way they did. Neither is wrong. We are a balance. So I respect other’s viewpoints, just as I hope they respect mine. If we don’t have this balance, we start having the problems we are having now. The balance is what makes this country great.

The Federal government is 17 trillion in debt and one party want’s to trade in the Platinum Card for a new no limit Gold Pressed Latinum Card, all the while throwing out subsidies for the new ObamaRobertscare scam and licking their chops to start another war in Syria that we can’t afford.

The other party proved themselves to be just as bad with the massive spending and wars of the Bush administration, but at least back then we had Senator Barak Obama to stand up and say it was reckless and misguided to raise the debt ceiling (which was 8 trillion at the time) and that it showed a sign of leadership failure in the system to have to raise it.

In March 2006, then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., found the notion of raising the debt ceiling quite distasteful.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure,” he said. “It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

If according to Obama back then, It’s a sign of failure in leadership to raise the debt ceiling, then that should speak volumes of his leadership then today. And, why is it when it came time for those votes, as to whether or not to increase the debt limit, did he vote “present” instead of “no”, in 2007 and 2008?. Then go on to say in 2011 that raising the debt limit was the most imoprtant thing he ever did. And he, along with a few more of his democrat buddies, voted to goto war in Iraq. Why is it people seem to forget that. So, besides just talking, and looking like a leader, something he Obama seems to be good at, what is it again he stood up for?. I always thought that when you stand up for something you follow it thru.

A lot of the problem with America is there is barely a middle class left. Too many big companies paying little wages. I don’t think it matters what party is in office or who the person is. They don’t have control of anything its the big corporations. Too big to fail wasn’t right!

If we keep going this way we are going to have to start over before too long. If we can do it with out a civil war it might be fun in a sick kind of way. But to keep going like we are? 17 tril. in debt. obama wanting to hand out money like it grows on trees. That’s why he don’t want guns, the libs won’t have a chance in the next civil war. I don’t mean to sound so dark, but a change is going to come. I just don’t know what that change is.

Both political parties are totally to blame. The Dems have been in the give things away mode since JFK and the Reps are all for cutting taxes/gov’t spending unless it benefits me or mine. We probably will never be the same again in America because of this problem. Rich class is growing, poor class is growing and middle class is shrinking. We are well on our way to a European style socialist government/economy. The leadership in our country for the past 15-20 years has allowed this to happen and the electorate has allowed them to get us to this point of no return. Sad sad deal that my generation has allowed this to happen.

I agree, except for your “European-style socialist government.” There is actually quite wide variance in the amount of “socialism” in European countries, although nearly all believe and have instituted a health care system in which all have access to free and affordable health care. These systems have their problems as well, as no one has all the answers, but even with all our technological advances in medicine and the fact that we DO have the best trained doctors and advanced treatments in the world available, we STILL perform relatively poorly in this country on our overall health outcomes. Embarrassingly so, in fact. Now, it is easier for some of the smaller countries like Norway and Sweden to provide for all their citizens in a much more comprehensive way than the US does, since the populations are smaller and more homogenized. However, we can do better, and we must demand better. The Affordable Care Act was a step in the right direction, but it needs targeted improvement to the originally conservative and REPUBLICAN ideas implemented in this law. But, instead of improving the state of things, the government and representatives in it work to undermine the effectiveness of the law and have tantrums (votes) to repeal rather than do their job to figure out how to make it better. They sabotage the law and disseminate rumors and misinformation at every turn and then claim how “broken” it is. And we’re really surprised that our legislature can’t handle the money? After acting like spoiled children at every turn? The fun thing is that they will utterly fail at their job and threaten a shutdown, they’ll rail against unions and “entitlements,” but in the end no matter how utterly despicable they act and how inept they are, they will be “entitled” to set their own salaries like the most tyrannical of unions, and they will be “entitled” to their compensation despite the fact that their bungling will lead to the shutdown of the very government they are supposed to be managing.

I am just about ready to move as far north in Mn as I can and when this whole thing goes anymore farther south then I can step 1 step north an say look at those poor s,o.b’s there in the good old U.S.A.

Our country is so messed up that the UN is about to take over. The UN has been debating this for the past week. It’s because of our non-functioning government, high death rate, high poverty rate, insane criminal behavior, and lack of civil liberties. Part of me screams, “No! This is our land!” but the other part of me says, “You know, I think our government deserves a time out.”

Back in Walnut Grove….. If we couldn’t pay cash money for our appointment with Doc Baker – we either offered him a chicken or offered to pay him over time. Heck, the way it is today folks expect Doc Baker to give them a turkey dinner if they can’t pay.

Does anyone else find it scary that if a nation divided can not stand, and with the large influx of nationalites with a desire to see the US fail, a potential to be attacked from with in our own borders is a real possibility? Our government has reduced our military, is trying to take our own protection away and many protective programs. Add to that our nation has become the most divided since the last election, over titles of Republican or Democarat.(Yet we all are Americans.) We are weak on the inside by all our divisions, our government is broke and at war with itself, and we are supposed to be the world superpower? No wonder Putin laughs at our current situation and leaders. Is a civil war possible? Absolutely, but I am more scared of the hidden agenda of some within our borders. The solidarity of saying “I am an American” does not bring the same protection it used to. Before, it meant ‘ I have many standing with and behind me- don’t mess with us’. Now, all it means is ‘ I might have a few that agree with me, but I am mostly on my own’. Sad.

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