Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., is working with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on a new bill that raises the minimum age to buy assault rifles such as an AR-15 to 21 years old, he said Wednesday. “A kid too young buy a handgun should be too young to buy an #AR15. Working with @SenFeinstein on a bipartisan bill that will raise the minimum purchase age for non-military buyers from 18 to 21 - the same age you currently have to be to purchase a handgun,” Flake tweeted. (Tweet) Under federal law, the minimum age to buy a handgun is 21, and the

Removing the military styling does nothing to change the fact that a semi-automatic rifle can be fired rapidly, even with a wooden stock, no bayonet lug, no flash hider.

Do the "Indy Pace Car" paint, logos, wings, hood scoops and wide tires make a car into a real racing car? No. They are just styling. Same for "semi-auto assault rifles" - they are not assault rifles, just ordinary rifles with military styling features.

Mitch and Ryan put him up to it. Romney will step up and endorse it and MCCain and Graham will Co sponsor it. However it will not pass because Democrats don’t want it to pass. They want it to be a campaign issue. No talk of providing grants to states for school districts to implement new school safety and security systems such as armed guards and other options. No way, we can’t do that!

Well then expect new lines of semi-automatic rifles to come out lacking the scary looking stuff along with the scary stuff upgrade kits sold primarily as 21st birthday gifts. I´m going to trademark SSU-21.

The voting age should be 30. I´ll budge down to 21 for those in the armed forces. Some of the reasons 18 to 20 year olds are perfect for turning into soldiers are the exact reasons they shouldn´t vote.

ps: This is not an either/or circumstance… We can and should have armed guards at school and better mental health screening, and peer programs, and an end to the ridiculous Obama-era rules that allow a black and Hispanic kids to get “do-overs” and no criminal record for crimes that white and Asian kids would get a record for (which is why this psycho Cruz slipped through the cracks; his adoptive last name). And we can also have an array other gun training for all kids and productive and other defense of technologies as well. And we can and should have a conversation about the debasement and video violence of our national culture. We should do ALL of this.

And this specific thing is definitely the right thing to do. We don’t let kids rent cars until they’re 25 and 25-year-olds can still be on their parents health insurance. Life comes in stages and the frontal cortex is not developed, particularly in young men, until they’re in their mid 20s. Mental illness and suicidal/homicidal tendencies would more likely have “shown” to authorities by Cruz’ 20s ... and this HORRIBLE atrocity could have neen avoided.

As for enlisting in the military… There are batteries of psychological tests to enlist and mentor support in the military in case someone is having violent thoughts of harming them self or harming others. So the obvious answer is: if you wish to enlist in the military at 18 and go through the training and psychological testing — and pass — you will exempt from the rule anyone else has to be 21 or 23 or 25 to have rifles with such easily changed large magazines and such little recoil.

After all, read recently most don´t consider themselves an "adult" until they are 24 anyhow. If that´s the case, then why should those 18, 19 and 20 year-old be voting for tax increases and making adult decisions if they themselves don´t consider themselves an adult?

There is no way that a bill will pass Congress listing just one model of rifle like an AR-15. In order to raise the age to buy such a rifle that the Democrats define as being an "Assault Rifle" because of it resembles in outward appearance true assault rifles used by the military, they will have to raise up the age to buy all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. As the AR-15 rifle and its knockoffs are the most popular rifles in America today, they mechanically function just about like every other modern semi-automatic rifle in America today.

The term "AR-15" is a trade mark of the Colt´s Manufacturing Company that manufactured and sold the original and now improved AR-15 rifle. Today there are probably a hundred knock-offs of the AR-15, that are not called AR-15´s, some that do not even look like the AR-15, that are being manufactured by different firearms manufacturers. So if Congress were to pass a law that only affected the Colt manufactured AR-15 rifle, the only rifle called an AR-15, and not all other firearms that functionally operate similar to the Colt AR-15, the bill Congress passes would probably be challenged as an unconstitutional bill of attainer against the Colt Manufacturing Company. Who actually knows, at this juncture, if the Florida shooter even used an actual AR-15 or some yet unidentified knock off.br>What the Democrats and some wimpy Republicans like Flake really want is to effectively ban all modern firearms that are being sold in America today. So if they can´t get enough political cover from the Republicans to do that, look for whatever inferior bill they actually propose to contain enough poison pills to keep the bill from being passed by Congress or to keep Trump from signing it, so the Democrats can keep using gun control as an issue on into the future.

And raise the minimum age for free speech, foruth amendment rights, fifth amanedment rights to 21 as well. It is important that we limited the freeoms that the Constitution specifically said the gooberment can´t limit to advance a police controlled state

Many rifles function just like the AR-15 which is NOT an assault weapon. If the AR is blocked people would just buy a different rifle. Then they would want those banned.

Meanwhile, it doesn´t fix the problem because it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUN! The AR-15 has been sold for over 50 years. The only reason it pops up in mass shootings is that it is a popular rifle, especially after the ban in 1994 - 2004.

It´s like pointing out that GM or Toyota cars are used most often as robbery getaway cars and wanting to ban them to reduce robberies without noting that these brands are the most sold cars and that robberies have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAR BRAND or the car at all.

Liberals are always looking to get their noses under the tent, looking to eliminate guns completely.

So you are willing to let an 18 year old enlist in the military, train him to use a REAL battle weapon (not an AR-15 which is NOT an "assault rifle") accept that he or she may DIE in defense of YOUR comfortable freedom - and he is ONLY a Second Class citizen whose constitutional rights you have chosen to deny him when he is HOME ON LEAVE?

BTW No. 18, AR-15 is no more a trademark any more, than is Kleenex. Everyone uses it and it denotes a platform and operating system. I assure you it will not be limited to Colt.

By the way, Colt is NOT the original manufacturer, nor did they originate the name. Eugene Stoner designed the firearm which was produced by ArmaLite Industries. And it was the 15th iteration of his design efforts. Hence ARmalite-15. The company was sold in the 60s - several times.

Flake chose an ideal partner in Dianne (Call Me Senator!) Feinstein. She probably looks at firearms like they were spiders crawling on her arm. Any congress critter who votes for a bill like this is looking at the end of his term as the end of his career.

Poster #24 is right. I met the original designers of the Armalite (M-16) rifle well before it became a military issue "assault" rifle back in 1962 at the Association of the US Army Convention at Washington, DC. At the time the basic issue rifle for the army was the M-14 rifle that could be set up to fire either semi automatically or fully automatic. Most were set up to fire semi automatically for the sake of accuracy and to save ammunition. At the time I believe their company was called Armalite and the rifle was then called the Armalite rifle. They had a display there and were still trying to sell the rifle to the US Army. I believe the problem for Armalite was that they did not have the funds or the manufacturing facilities to mass produce that rifle if the army did order it, Colt did.

What is an assault rifle? Those scary looking things with black plastic stocks you see the SWAT teams waving around? A M-1A (M-14 semi-auto copy made by Springfield) with a wooden stock looks like an old-fashioned rifle - but it fires a .308 bullet, a lot more power than your regular AR-type gun in .223, which is the AR´s usual caliber. Heck, you can get an old Remington Woodsmaster, a semi-auto deer rifle from the 1950s that shoots the same .30-06 round that carried the U.S. through WWII, and you can get 10 round magazines for those. MUCH more power than a standard AR-type in .223. Or, if you like the .223 round, you can get a Ruger Mini-14, which is a scaled-down version of the military M-14, which shoots the .223 round, for which you can get a 30 round magazine. Every bit as deadly, just as big a magazine as the AR, but in a nice, old fashioned wooden stock. Of course, you CAN get the black or tan plastic stock in aftermarket, which is lighter, and make it scary-looking if you want. And if you want volume of shots vs. power, you can get the Ruger 10/22, which shoots a .22 LR round, which comes with a standard 10 round mag, but you can find 100 round magazines for those. You can even find the aftermarket stock to make it look scary! So what are you going say they can´t buy? Personally, I´ve got no problem with raising the rifle-buying age, but if you allow them to start limiting, you know they won´t STOP there.

And thumbs up to the C-141, too. I rode those from Charleston to Rhine-Main, or Madrid a number of times space-A in the early 70s. Got to spend some time in the cockpit chatting with the crews, too. All good folks, good memories of a fine old bird.

I use to agree with you #5, but things have changed. The newer generations have become snowflakes with little knowledge of the real world and have a serious lack of maturity for their age. While an 18 to 21 yr old today may have a strong physical presence, they often lack intelligence to handle things that require discipline and common sense.

Just a fairly long-time Lucianner weighing in: I´m a gun owner and a gun advocate and an NRA member, and I really have no problem with prohibiting firearms sales until one is 21. Also get rid of schools as gun-free zones (aka targets). And for the cherry on top, maybe begin to recognize again the importance of Dad in his son´s upbringing.

On a related note, I see that the amorphous, made-up political term ´assault weapon´ is being abandoned by the grabbers and their "news" outlet mouthpieces. Going ever more flagrantly mendacious, they have apparently decided to label scary-looking semi-autos as outright "assault rifles", a term which actually has a specific meaning which does not include semi-auto only rifles. They don´t care any more, they are just going to call them "assault rifles" and "machine guns" anyway, evidently.

Anti gun politicians want to raise the age for a civilian person to be a qualified firearms purchaser to 21 years of age, while a person can enlist in the military at age 17 and be qualified to carry and operate some of the most deadly firearms in the world, including real assault rifles. While some Democrat college professors are now calling for the voting age to be lowered to the age of 16 so that very impressionable and know nothing teenagers who don’t have a clue about how the world turns, and who are being influenced by leftist teachers and popular teen culture can vote. Don’t think everything these days is about securing a political edge, think again!

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