No what? No they aren't fake? No they aren't building on a stripped down NT kernel? I know it's hard to type more than one word but give it a try, people might actually be able to understand you.

Well, so much of your statement was just plain incorrect it was pretty all-encompassing to just say no. But since you insist, here we go:

Yeah, those pictures are embarrassingly fake. The only real pictures I know of right now are of MinWin running (the ASCII startup screen someone asked about earlier). The reason for that is they've stripped the NT kernel to the bone and have it running in text only mode without a GUI. They are going to build from that instead of on top of the previous version like they've been doing for years. That should get rid of a lot of legacy garbage, security problems and other bloat. I'm looking forward to it myself, but I really doubt there's much more to see right now. The user interface is usually the last thing that gets completed.

Yes, the pictures are laughably fake.Yes, the only real pictures (I've seen anyway) have been from MinWin.No to the rest.MinWin is an effort to "Analyze the dependencies and carve out the lowest, smallest core component of Windows, that would be a standalone, testable slice of Windows, and that--analyzing the dependencies, cutting the lines, the cycles, from MinWin to higher level components, making sure that MinWin doesn't depend on anything else, that it's totally self-contained. It can be built separately from the rest of Windows and run independently."They aren't scrapping IE, explorer, the DWM or any of what has been Windows NT for the past 15 years. They are just refactoring windows to make it easier to service, , which is what the bulk of your paragraph was about.

I didn't mean to say they were scrapping IE, Explorer and all that. Of course not, I just meant they were going back to the basics and starting fresh. Obviously IE, the Explorer shell and other programs will be added back. Hopefully rewritten versions of a lot of it but I'm sure plenty of stuff in Vista will be updated and ported over. This gives them a chance to get rid of tons of legacy code though, a lot of backwards compatibility junk that has been holding Windows back and causing problems.

I didn't mean to say they were scrapping IE, Explorer and all that. Of course not, I just meant they were going back to the basics and starting fresh. Obviously IE, the Explorer shell and other programs will be added back. Hopefully rewritten versions of a lot of it but I'm sure plenty of stuff in Vista will be updated and ported over. This gives them a chance to get rid of tons of legacy code though, a lot of backwards compatibility junk that has been holding Windows back and causing problems.

Most likely not. Microsoft cherishes compatibility, which is a key reason they will be a reason a 32-bit version of Windows 7 Client.

Why this image is fake:Look at the far right(in all programs):It says "MSN Messenger 12"The fact that MSN messenger no longer is available but re-branded with the word "Windows Live Messenger"And WLM is still currently in private beta as WLM9! How does it jump to 12?PS:It has the Mac version of WLM Icon

And btw, OSbeta is not really a valid source for such things. They have plenty fake and made screenshots on their site. In most of the cases those are Photoshoped or made out of late builds of Longhorn.

Originally posted on the 17th and you're trying to crack a fail joke now? Little late I think.

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Everyone already pointed out that stuff already. Anyone who has ever used Longhorn would know what they were really looking at there.

Hi, Sorry about that.I am new here and I haven't had time to look at all the posts. I thought that if I posted it then I would be the first without anyone else running away with my thoughts Thanks anyway

Why this image is fake:Look at the far right(in all programs):It says "MSN Messenger 12"The fact that MSN messenger no longer is available but re-branded with the word "Windows Live Messenger"And WLM is still currently in private beta as WLM9! How does it jump to 12?PS:It has the Mac version of WLM Icon

Most likely not. Microsoft cherishes compatibility, which is a key reason they will be a reason a 32-bit version of Windows 7 Client.

I figured that's more of a hardware compatibility thing, since there are still so many 32-bit computers out there. I'm really hoping they'll clean up a lot of the legacy software clutter though, maybe do backwards compatibility for old programs with virtualization.