Hey!
Just a quick note that the structure weapon balance changes will reach Singularity within the next few hours (in contrast to the text in the blog itself). I’ll update this post as soon as this has happened.

Edit: Singularity has been updated and all part of these changes can be tested now.

Great stuff … but where is the most important improvement: Fix the Gunner role. A gunner does not need to be able to fuel or refit a structure. A gunner needs only to gun things down. With the ability to strip the entire fitting as well as take out all the fuel, the gunner role is far too powerful and thus not assigned to people as often as it should be.

Glad to see some increase to subcapital missiles. Currently, they’re a laughable joke in the smelliest dumpster, and the only people who bother to fit them are those in highsec. Here’s hoping it makes them a little more effective.

This is a huge nerf, across the board. Here is why:

If you leave your citadel fit anti-subcap, and they drop as little as a single carrier or dread on it during its vuln window to damage it, its anti-subcap fit is locked in for all 3 timers. You cannot refit to counter caps? So hostiles just bring captials on all 3 timers and easily kill your structure.

If you leave your citadel fit anti-cap, then hostiles just drop a sub-cap fleet on it during its vuln, damage it and its fit is locked in for all 3 timers.

Up until now, because the anti-subcap modules were so useless, mostly everyone (who was smart) choose to leave their citadels anti-cap fit and would just deal with sub-cap fleets on their cits with counter sub-cap fleets. If hostiles tried to escalate, then the citadel could help defend against the caps b/c it was anti-cap fit.

You want to nerf void bombs? Great.
Your counter-weight to this nerf is to simply buff the subcap missiles? This is an ineffective change.

My solution:

Do not prevent citadel fits from being changed while they are reinforced or repairing. Allow us to swap between cap or subcap launchers as we choose and maybe we can actually put your new sub-cap missiles to use and not have to rely on bombs.

As of right now, you can’t react to a reinforcment and you can’t change your strategy on the second and third reinforcment. Citadel fits can be ship scanned during a vuln period. People just scout them the week before, scan them, see what their fit is…wait a week and counter with the opposite.

Until this fundamental gameplay mechanic is fixed, NOTHING YOU DO to change sub-cap missiles or modules will have any effect.

This seems to imply a final energy neuted / second calculation. This seems factually wrong.

The ROF change alone will create a flat 50% energy neuted/s nerf. Is this quoted 25% number a reduction of the neut alpha per bomb? Which would then reduce the energy neuted/s to 62.5% of what it was previously.

This seems to imply a final energy neuted / second calculation. This seems factually wrong.

The ROF change alone will create a flat 50% energy neuted/s nerf. Is this quoted 25% number a reduction of the neut alpha per bomb? Which would then reduce the energy neuted/s to 62.5% of what it was previously.
Please clarify what the actual changes are.

don’t worry i’ll clarify for you because ccp not only have incompetence in the balance department but also communications

Yea, I see how they can get to that final number, but I just want them to confirm its not a mistake on their devblog. The language seems to indicate, perhaps intentionally, that void bombs are being significantly changed as promised but hahaha not really though.

I would also like to point out that language around dps bombs is also highly confusing on first glance. To get to a 25% dps increase, the alpha of all damage guided bombs has to be increased by 2.5x.

This is just stupid on all levels. Why is this not detailed in the dev blog?

I’d like to see the tackle toned down. you can’t have a 250km web or scram, that’s ridiculous. how about 10km instead, and reduce the web strength down to normal levels. I’d remove structure ECM because it’s horrible and unnecessary - if you guys can’t make ECM a reasonable game mechanic, don’t go around making more of it. I feel like citadels are just too strong vs single targets, I’d like them to be more anti-blob so I die less

guided bombs are silly, I’d like to see unguided bombs instead so the guy in control of the structure has to have a brain

With the number of citadels that are killed and the relative ease in taking them down are the weapons on Citadels really that overpowered? It would seem that these changes just make it even easier to kill them.

Improved Usability for Fueling Structures
The job of keeping your structure fueled can be a challenging one that is made more complicated by the fact that allowing a player to fuel a structure currently requires a huge amount of trust in that individual. In the August release, we are expanding the fueling ability in a secure way by allowing anyone with the “Assume Structure Control” access control list to place (but not remove) fuel in the structure fuel bay without requiring any corporate roles.

Thank you CCP for your never ending hard work on everyone’s favorite universe and for your struggles lately to properly adjust the way structures operate and affect the game. I’m very sure that all you hardworking CCP employees will keep doing your absolute best to find the proper play balance that is needed to keep the game from becoming boring or predictable or too easy. And to keep all the galaxies and stars and planets spinning around the way that they always should spin without exception (clock-wise and never ever counter-clockwise, haha.) Thanks to everyone involved for giving us the best game on the internet

The following is an article submitted to us by Erutor, a relative newbro flying cloaky ships with WiNGSPAN with dreams of huge NS fleets. Quoting him, “I also enjoy losing Stratioi in PvE sites trying to make my PvP fits work for PvE, and/or while...

tl;dr - The proposed changes are adequate, but not excellent. They may open the door for additional fleet compositions, but do not encourage more creative gameplay.