Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Trump right to ask Questions about Obama's Birth Certificate

Middle-class Americans want to know why it is you need a long form Birth Certificate for Little League, for a Passport, and to get hired on many Jobs, but not for the Presidency of the United States?

by Wayne Allyn Root

I have spent the past few years predicting economic Armageddon on TV and radio shows across America. I have predicted the collapse of the dollar, the decline of the economy, the dangers of the debt and the Fed, and the incredible rise of gold and silver. All these predictions have been "on the money" while the liberal media has scoffed, rolled their eyes, and called me a fool. Monday's downgrade of the U.S. economy by Standard & Poor's should be a wake-up call to everyone, even the media. America is in deep trouble. Economic Armageddon is fast approaching. The media need only look in the mirror to find the fool.

This brings up two important questions. Why is the media blind to the economic disaster befalling America? And, what does this have to do with Donald Trump and the place of Obama's birth?

The answer to the first question is the national media is populated by Ivy League elites- extremely biased, "Lucky Sperm Club" leftists who drink the socialist-flavored Kool Aid. Few have ever started a business, made a payroll, or created a job. They know nothing about economics, or what is happening to small business owners on Main Street.

The answer to the second question has everything to do with the media's dislike, denigration and lack of understanding about the meteoric rise of Donald Trump's Presidential prospects. They look down upon businessmen such as Trump. The reality is they are jealous of his success and chutzpah. Obama the community organizer is more their kind of guy. The liberal media elites who idolize Obama are angry when Trump questions where Obama was born. They consider this kind of question a joke. They believe no one could possibly care. They are clueless to the fact that real people, without liberal-elite agendas, are actually concerned about Obama's background. But Donald Trump has figured that out.

We've allowed a man to become President of the United States without a long-form Birth Certificate

You see "The Donald" is a businessman. He knows what his customer wants...and he is giving it to them. The media elites do not care or understand what their customers want. You think Katie Couric understood her customers? If she did, she would not be looking for a job right now. Donald Trump is interested in being hired, while Katie has just been fired for losing millions of viewers. That is the difference between a smart businessman and a leftist media elitist who thinks she knows it all.

Trump has brilliantly brought up an issue that millions of Americans are pondering. Main Street Americans are rightfully concerned to learn that it is impossible to get a passport in America without a long form birth certificate, yet we've allowed a man to become President without the same document. Real Americans are incredulous that it is impossible to land any corporate executive job without a detailed background check, yet we know virtually nothing about our President's background. Real Americans have open and transparent college records, while we have elected a President who has sealed his college records. Real Americans suspect that where there is smoke, there might be fire.

You can not get a job at Microsoft, or Charles Schwab, or Bank of America without a stringent background check and proof of citizenship. Many reasonably ask why it is easier to get a job in Congress or the White House. Asking Obama to prove his background does not make you extreme, or crazy, or a lunatic. It does not even make you a "birther." It just means you expect that all candidates for higher office should produce proof of citizenship and detailed records concerning their background. That is just common sense.

Do I personally believe Obama was born in a foreign country? I have no idea. I am not a birther, but I do believe there might be something damaging hidden in his college, if not his birth records. Why do I think that? Because Obama acts suspiciously. Because he hires armies of lawyers to keep his records sealed. I also believe all Americans have a right to ask the question of the man who commands our army and our economy. Ironically, the more Obama refuses to produce the proof, and the more millions of dollars he spends on legal maneuvering to hide that proof, the more concerned Americans become. Obama is the one stoking the fire, not Trump.

Each day Obama refuses to release the Birth Certificate, Trump gains in credibility

Now that it is not nutcases, conspiracy theorists, or extreme right wingers asking, but rather a credible American CEO, celebrity, and billionaire, wouldn't you think Obama would produce the long form birth certificate, if it exists? If Trump is a charlatan...if Trump is exploiting a slanderous lie...then why exactly is Obama not destroying Trump's political career by producing the birth certificate? It is so easy and simple- show it and the circus ends instantly. Trump's gamble would turn into the biggest losing bet in modern political history. So Mr. President, why aren't you shaming him? Where's the beef?

Funny how the "crazy people" seem more credible every day, while the guy in the White House appears more and more as if he has something to hide. Every day Obama refuses to answer, Trump appears more credible and more Presidential...while Obama comes across more like the charlatan.

The media elites have missed the boat once again. They have refused to cover the biggest story of the year- one their customers want to hear about. They are blinded by their bias and one-sided leftist agenda. Just as they have been blinded to the damage Obama's socialist agenda has done to the economy. They are in denial. But it is just bad business to ignore the interests of your customers.

And maybe, just maybe, the businessman and self-promoter extraordinaire who understands his customers, is actually a modern day Houdini. If Trump is proven right, he will have pulled the White House out of his hat and made Obama disappear. That could yet prove to be the most amazing magic act of all-time.

Editor's note - Wayne Root is a former sports oddsmaker from Las Vegas. He was the 2008 Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate, and is currently Chairman of the Libertarian Congressional Elect Committee (lp.org). He was also a former college classmate of Barack Obama at Harvard.

Eric,If I'm wrong, I'll send you a gift certificate or something. No one has alleged that what he has produced is a forgery. There has been no evidence produced to bolster this shit. Only endless imagination and speculation.

I love seeing Trump spearhead this. He is eminently disposable if it is all fluff. Then again, I have doubts if O would be cast out of office, even if he is Kenyan. It would, somehow, take our courts longer to do their job than it would for the election to take place. Would this be a new Kenyan marathon record of some sort?

The question is, where would you sit post O is Kenyan? Would you recommend simply leaving him in office?

No, it's not, you piece of garbage. A birth certificate is required to obtain a driver's license, so when it comes to a task more important like serving as President of the United States, no certificate of live birth is acceptable enough.

This birther shit is just stupid, and racist.

Finally, garbage, you say something I expect you to say (some of your comments in the last few days left me wondering if I was in some kind of bizarro LR!). Your claim is nothing more than the usual regurgitated tripe spouted off by rabid anti-birthers like yourself (you know, the type that absurdly think Sarah Palin is a birther, too).

Whatever. It's fine to raise the issue and let eople decide for themselves. But raising the issue most definitely does not make someone presidential material- especially someone who has said he supports universal healthcare.

And if nothing comes of it- and it's proven Obama really was born here- and all of this ends up distracting from what are far more important issues- I assume you'll be the first to post a picture with egg on your face, Dondero.

Personally, I don't get it anyway. There's no contention his mother was an American citizen. And there's no contention his grandparents, who raised him, wereAmerican citizens. As far as I'm concerned, that meets constitutional muster anyway. If he were truly a foreign citizen raised by foreign parents, I'd be more concerned. What needs to be destroyed is not Obama's eligibility, but his wrong economic and social planning ides for the country. If we can't win on the merits, we have won nothing at all.

No, it's not, you piece of garbage. A birth certificate is required to obtain a driver's license, so when it comes to a task more important like serving as President of the United States, no certificate of live birth is acceptable enough.

If you had any clue how to read, you would realize that Obama's certificate says "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding". The evidence is right there. Anyone who thinks this certificate is some type of forgery is a clueless moron and a kook.

This birther shit is racist because it is derived from the idea that a black man with an Islamic sounding name can't possibly be an American citizen, let alone born in America. That you call me "garbage" has absolutely no bearing on who I am, and yes, I am proud to be an anti-birther because I will not ever consider stupidity to be the truth.

The certificate of live birth simply serves as evidence that Obama was born, but it still wouldn't be accepted if one were to seek a driver's license, so why is it acceptable enough for a presidential candidate?

I call you garbage, garbage, because of your past comments about women on this site. Only a piece of garbage would seriously say such comments.

I suspect we will soon be hearing calls for impeachment from some. If Obama is found to be a non-US citizen, he has violated the laws of our country thrice over - illegal entry, forgery and fraudulant documents, and lying to election officials nationwide.

It's not anti-black, it's anti-foreigner in the Oval office. There's a national security interest at stake here.

I also mentioned that his Islamic name is another big reason why you birthers exist. I know you don't hate all blacks, and I know that Allen West is your favorite congressman.

But I highly doubt that you would like him if his name was Abdul Wasim, and if part of his childhood was spent in a Muslim country. That is the heart of the bigotry of birthers like you. And besides Obama's relentless spending, he is not a national security threat to our country. Get real.

I suspect we will soon be hearing calls for impeachment from some. If Obama is found to be a non-US citizen, he has violated the laws of our country thrice over - illegal entry, forgery and fraudulant documents, and lying to election officials nationwide.

"why do you think someone like Wayne Root is willing to stake his credibility"

You can't "stake" something you've got nothing of.

"Wayne wouldn't touch this issue with a 10-foot pole months or even weeks ago."

Bullshit. He floated a trial balloon on it last year, agreeing to "testify" live at a birther "trial" in New York, then claiming he'd backed out when people point out the batshit insanity of the whole idea, then allegedly going ahead and "testifying" by Internet video.

So Lofo, are you actually saying that we Americans should have no hatred for the very people that murdered 3,000 of our fellow countrymen?

If that's your position you are truly, truly fucked in the head.

People like you should be strippened of their United States Citizenship. If that's your position you are beyond fucked up, and beyond a threat to this country, and a downright terrorist dick sucking mother fucker.

"Real Americans suspect that where there is smoke, there might be fire." Where there's smoke, there are mirrors. That's how the Left plays it. Smoke 'n mirrors.

No lofo, you are garbage because you are... human garbage. You are garbage that promotes the slavery and vicious sexual assault against another human being - who piled on and denied even the woman's humanity. You are very sick, lofo - you need help.

Yep, and it's not a bunch of fringe kooks breaking it either. I wonder what he doesn't want us to see? Racial background? Parentage? Place of birth? Whatever it is, there's something on there that's worth fighting to the mat for for this asshole.

And considering that Michele Obama, Obama himself, his grandmother and several high-ranking people in Kenya have flat-out SAID he was born there, maybe that's all it is. I mean he wasn't shy about talking about the country of his birth before the "birthers" started picking up the news and trying to spread it, why'd he clam up all of a sudden?

We already know for a *fact* that he has committed social security fraud, and that he lied under oath when taking the IL state bar exam; those would both be causes for impeachment. The birth certificate issue isn't about impeachment; it's simple disqualification. If he wasn't born here, that's that - there wouldn't, or at least shouldn't, be any fanfare or need of impeachment proceedings. He could just tip the fuck out the door.

What sexual assault did someone support??? I always miss these things.

Chuck, I understand your feelings, but the COLB in Hawaii is specifically only given to people residing abroad. Which makes it doubly screwed up. I didn't even see the point of discussing this issue before very recently because what good is it going to do? He'll never leave anyway, any more than Clinton did. And the press and his lackeys aren't ever going to acknowledge the truth of it, even if it does turn out to be a foreign birth is actually the truth.

Then you start remembering and watching the old video of Michele saying "Barack's home country of Kenya" and Barry himself telling a group of students that he was foreign-born, and then onstage saying "So what, my approval ratings are still high in the country of my birth!" (referring to bad ratings here) - and reviewing the bulk of the evidence, and its pretty clear SOMETHING is being hidden. And if nothing is, then that STILL makes them liars, since they used to openly acknowledge his alleged Kenyan birth. Which is something one would want to know, if the president and his wife concocted an elaborate lie to present him one way in the past and switched it so he could be president.

So...yeah, this isn't just wackos anymore or conspiracy theorists, there is much to be suspicious of in this instance. At the very least.

Tom, what is so bat-shit insane about demanding that public servants - all of them, including the former president-elect - cough-up their bona fides?

Root is correct: "Birther" syndrome is distinct from the public's duty to vet it's public servants. It's bat-shit insane to conflate them.

For a dude who loves to draw clear distinctions, this one is right in your turf. One would think that your position would be:A) That the 'birther' assumption is nuts;B) That the public's duty to vet it's servants must be upheld; andC) Eric is going to be the one shown to be wrong.

Me? My position is:A) The birther assumptions are nuts;B) The public's duty to vet it's servants must be upheld; and C) That it seems more and more likely every day that the nutters will be proven to have been correct all along on at least one of their speculations. Remember, with the left, truth is much weirder than fiction.

I never saw that it was in the DNC's interest to risk promoting a false or non-vetted candidate. I had always assumed that Dean had run a clean primary, such as clean is in Demo terms. Then...

then the Hillary camp raised questions. They pointed-out that the guy with the middle finger was spending money to block publication of his BC, his school records, his passport data - everything.

The whole thing stinks on ice - and all we get is the middle finger in defiance of the Won's duty to show his bona fides.

Well stated Ran. (Except it's "its", not "it's" in "my position part B" and "for a dude" part B.)

What kills me is that Obama absolutely PRESENTED himself as a foreign-born person before his presidential run, and now we're insane for even bringing it up. BUT HE DID! So did Moo-chelle! FFS, why are we supposed to IGNORE that?? Ok, so let's assume he WAS born in Hawaii (even though the governor who promised to lay these questions to rest "can't find" the certificate and has had to just fade into the background) - THAT MEANS HE LIED BEFORE. So...that's not an issue? That he PRESENTED himself as a foreign-born citizen, and NOW he's saying he's not?

Whatever it is he's hiding, it's something he's guarding quite jealously. Whether it turns out to be a foreign birth or not, there is SOMETHING he's hiding, if only the fact that they lied before. And why lie about something like THAT?

"Tom, what is so bat-shit insane about demanding that public servants - all of them, including the former president-elect - cough-up their bona fides?"

Nothing at all.

Obama released his birth certificate in 2007.

That birth certificate is corroborated 100% by every iota of available evidence.

Every known fact supports the contention that he was born in Hawaii and that his mother was an American.

Despite four years of "birther" bellyaching and grandstanding, so much as a crumb of evidence to the contrary of either of those contentions has yet to emerge.

Either one of those facts is sufficient to make him a "natural-born citizen" and therefore constitutionally eligible on that point to serve as POTUS.

It's also a settled point of law. The ultimate judges of the Constitution's meaning and application are the Constitutions ordainers and establishers, a/k/a "we the people," and a majority of them delivered their verdict on the matter by electing the guy.

Do people have the right to demand that he divulge anything they want divulged? Yes they do.

Are people entitled to take his refusal to divulge, e.g. his college records, as evidence that he's not the guy they should vote for? Absolutely.

Are Republicans making their party look batshit insane by quibbling about a document released four years ago and corroborated 100% by every piece of available evidence? Yes they are. And I support them in doing so 100%.

Quoth Dondero:

"There's an AP article that specifically calls him a 'Kenyan.' That one has not been scrubbed and is easily accessed."

Yes, it is -- but you apparently think no one will bother, since if they do they will discover it says no such thing.

The only evidence that supports Obama having been sold as "Kenyan-born" is your recollections, which are legendary for their tendency to support whatever you're saying ... and to prove false under scrutiny.