Monday, June 10, 2013

The below treatise on the Logie surname was sent to me years ago. I don’t know the authors name but thank them for their work collecting this information about the Logie surname and some of the early day ancestors of the family.

Various Spellings used within the same family:- Logy, Loge, Loggy, Loggie, Logie, there is also some evidence to suggest that the name Logue may also apply to some descendants- it must be remembered that in these earlier times names were written as they appeared phonetically to the writer, even within my own family four different spellings were used at the first four christenings of the children of one of my ancestors, even in one case the child spelt one way and the father a different way, bear in mind this was even with the same person writing down the details.

1260- Sir Malisius de Logy “the Steward of Stratherne” Ragman’s Roll John of Logy (under age) Wauter de Logy of Fife 1296- Malise de Loghis - committed to Gloucester Castle-(son of Sir Malisius de Logy) Sir John Logy- executed Phillip de Logy- appears as charter witness in Dundee record of Payment to Phillip de Logy, Burgess of Dundee Charter by Murdock, Earl of Mentieth to Robert Logie of the lands of Broculli in Fife. Note:- Robert was a son of Malise de Logy and apparently a brother of Sir John of Logy who was executed, Murdock, Earl of Mentieth had a sister who married Malise, Earl of Strathearn.

David ll Married Margaret Logie, widow of Sir John of Logie. The Lands of Annandale given in seisin to John of Logie, son of the Queen of Scotland by David ll . These were not the lands originally held by Sir John of Logy. An extract from The Scots Peerage by Sir James Balfour Paul, LLD., Lord Lyon King of Arms, reads- “In 1823 the lands of Strathgartney were granted to Sir John Menteith who had married a niece of Robert l. These lands had previously belonged to Sir John Logie and were taken away from him by forfeiture in 1320.” The lands of Strathgartney lie along the north bank of Loch Katrine.

John Hay of Tullibody, marquis of Tweedale, paid 100 marks to John Logy for the marriage of his daughter Margaret Logie. Extract from the Red Book of Menteith, Vol 1 pp 148/149

The lands of Annandale given in seisin to John of Logie, son of the Queen of Scotland by David ll, the extract from Bain’s Index reads-“Dec.16,1366, on that day the King of Scotland, Sir Archibald Douglas, and other Lords of Scotland came to Annandale and gave seisin of it to John de Logie, son of the Queen of Scotland”.

These were not the lands originally held by Sir John of Logy, of the Soulis conspiracy. An extract from The Scots Peerage by Sir James Balfour Paul, LLD,. Lord Lyon King of Arms, reads-“In 1323 the lands of Strathgartney were granted to Sir John Monteith who had married a niece of Robert l. These lands had previously belonged to Sir John Logie and were taken away from him by forfeiture in 1320”. The lands of Strathgartney lie along the North bank of Loch Katrine.

A dispute having arisen between the Earl of Fife and Menteith and Menteith and John of Logy, in which the lands called in question the right of the Earl to the possession of the lands of Logy and Strathgartney, the matter was referred to the arbitration of Andrew Mercer, lord of Meiklour. These lands had belong to Sir John Logy who was executed for taking part in the conspiracy of William Soulis against King Robert the Bruce, while his estates were forfeited to the crown,. The lands of Logy seem to have been given to the Earl of Douglas, while those of Strathgartney were bestowed on Sir John of Menteith and Elene of Mar, his spouse.

Notwithstanding the possession of Strathgartney by Sir John of Menteith, David ll issued a precept for infefting John of Logy, the son of the late Sir John of Logy, in these lands, but afterwards, on being informed by his council of the reasons for Sir John’s forfeiture he recalled the infeftment and restored Strathgartney to Sir John of Menteith. Not long after the King’s marriage to Margaret of Logy, John of Logy received from him the lands of Logy by a new grant. How they, with the lands of Strathgartney came to be in possession of Sir Robert Stewart, does not appear but that they were, is evident from the indenture of arbitration drawn up at the instance of Andrew Mercer. The Lord of Meiklour after hearing the parties adjudged that the lands belonged to John of Logy, and the Earl, having agreed to abide by the decision of the arbiter, at once transferred the lands to him with due formalities. The agreement and decision was made known to King Robert ll, and affirmed in the presence of the Court by the Earl of Fife and Menteith and John of Logy, and when the men of Strathgartney were inclined to demur to the claims made upon them by their new Lord.

The Earl of Fife and Menteith wrote to them, that although he had previously prohibited them from obeying John of Logy, their Lord, before the latter had made good his claims to the lands, they should now serve as their lawful Lord. This arrangement between the Earl of Fife and Menteith and John of Logy was sacredly kept by both parties, it is interesting to note that John of Logy was chamberlain to the Duke of Rothesay while he was Earl of Carrick”

Duncan Logy released from Norwich prison John of Logy released from Colchester prison

Alexander Logy admitted Burgess of Aberdeen

Thomas Hay of Logie, who was slain at Flodden with his brother on September 9, 1513, married in 1493 Margaret Logie, heiress of Logiealmond in Perthshire, of which lands he had a charter upon his resignation, and precept from King James lV for infefting him and her in the barony on October 4, 1493. She survived him and married Robert Murray. By her first marriage Margaret had a son George, who became 7th Earl of Errol, and a daughter, Beatrix, who married Walter Bonar of Keltie.

NOTE:- Margaret Logie was the daughter of John Logie of Logiealmond and Euphemia Boyd. Euphemia was the daughter of Alexander Boyd, Earl of Kilmarnock at that time. It would appear that this was a marriage of cousins as in 1368 a Thomas Hay of Tullibody married Margaret Logie—see entry under that date. The Hay family thus gained these lands previously owned by that branch of the Logie family.

It should be noted that at this time in Scotland heritable property passed to the eldest child irrespective of sex and that therefore when the eldest child was a female the lands would pass to her and then to her husband and children.