I'm on a low budget. I ordered a bunch of biners from here: carabinerkeychains.com/blank-c... 16 for racking and 24 more, 12 of which have the nylon strap, for my quickdraws. Probably saved a couple hundred bucks! I recommend checking them out. Havent climbed on them yet... we'll see how it goes

It will probably go well. With all the weight you saved, 5.13 should be warm up.

I'm on a low budget. I ordered a bunch of biners from here: carabinerkeychains.com/blank-c... 16 for racking and 24 more, 12 of which have the nylon strap, for my quickdraws. Probably saved a couple hundred bucks! I recommend checking them out. Havent climbed on them yet... we'll see how it goes

Get a couple of those nifty camo biners to use on permadraws. Who can argue ethics of leaving draws up when you can't see them even when you're climbing a route!?