Hello Friends, Is anyone using OMB with a Drum VSTi?

I wonder if anyone has any experience using OMB with a Vsti such as Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts? I personally used OMB with SGM180 soundfont and the

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, Sep 6, 2007

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I wonder if anyone has any experience using OMB with a Vsti such as
Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts?

I personally used OMB with SGM180 soundfont and the quality is
outstanding. I just wondered if anyone out there has achieved better
quality such as hardware arranger level, like the Tyros or Korg PA
series....Right now with the Soundfont the level I am getting is not
there yet as of now. BUt i am getting close. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Musikman

Rikki King

Hi Musikman, it s really just a case of getting the best sounding fonts. I have about 6 or 8 different GM soundfont banks. A mix of commercial & free soundfont

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, Sep 7, 2007

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Hi Musikman,
it's really just a case of getting the best sounding fonts.
I have about 6 or 8 different GM soundfont banks.
A mix of commercial & free soundfont banks.
Haven't found the perfect bank yet. Some the banks the piano's are
good , the guitars are bad,the strings are good the brass may be bad.
The commercial ones may not neccasarily sound better than the freebies.
Also discovered size does not always make a particular font sound
better. Discovered that with some of the piano's. I downloaded some
free piano's I'd found. One of them was nearly 200mb's just by itself.
It just didn't sound right in the mix , when mixed with other
instruments in an omb style.
The beauty of the sound font system is that you can mix n match them
via librarians or soundfont editors.

I actually now have a little psr1500 which I use for general arranger
playing.

I still also use my clavinova which I prefer to use with OMB &
soundfonts/& or my sd2 sound module.

>
> I wonder if anyone has any experience using OMB with a Vsti such as
> Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts?
>
> I personally used OMB with SGM180 soundfont and the quality is
> outstanding. I just wondered if anyone out there has achieved better
> quality such as hardware arranger level, like the Tyros or Korg PA
> series....Right now with the Soundfont the level I am getting is not
> there yet as of now. BUt i am getting close. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Musikman
>

musikman4christ

Hello Rikki, THanks for your response. I am so happy that you are always around. You are always so helpful and friendly. Its nice to have people like you in

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, Sep 8, 2007

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Hello Rikki,

THanks for your response. I am so happy that you are always around.
You are always so helpful and friendly. Its nice to have people like
you in this forum.
I am actually right now just using my Korg Trinity sounds with OMB. I
find that the effects on the Trinity make the drums sound huge and
nice. I am mostly very interested in drums and Bass, as the other
tracks like strings, piano and guitars, I am going to record myself.
Well, the electric guitar and Bass mostly.
But OMB really shines with the drums because I can call in Fills at
the push of a button. Thats where its at. Realtime recording.

By the way, this is a bit off topic, is there a limit on how many
fills one can program in OMB?

>
> Hi Musikman,
> it's really just a case of getting the best sounding fonts.
> I have about 6 or 8 different GM soundfont banks.
> A mix of commercial & free soundfont banks.
> Haven't found the perfect bank yet. Some the banks the piano's are
> good , the guitars are bad,the strings are good the brass may be bad.
> The commercial ones may not neccasarily sound better than the freebies.
> Also discovered size does not always make a particular font sound
> better. Discovered that with some of the piano's. I downloaded some
> free piano's I'd found. One of them was nearly 200mb's just by itself.
> It just didn't sound right in the mix , when mixed with other
> instruments in an omb style.
> The beauty of the sound font system is that you can mix n match them
> via librarians or soundfont editors.
>
> I actually now have a little psr1500 which I use for general arranger
> playing.
>
> I still also use my clavinova which I prefer to use with OMB &
> soundfonts/& or my sd2 sound module.
>
> best wishes
> Rikki
>
>
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "musikman4christ"
> <musikman4christ@> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if anyone has any experience using OMB with a Vsti such as
> > Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts?
> >
> > I personally used OMB with SGM180 soundfont and the quality is
> > outstanding. I just wondered if anyone out there has achieved better
> > quality such as hardware arranger level, like the Tyros or Korg PA
> > series....Right now with the Soundfont the level I am getting is not
> > there yet as of now. BUt i am getting close. Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Musikman
> >
>

Rikki King

Hi Musikman Musiclab drum tools is quite an interesting one. I tried the demo version a year or so ago, but at that stage OMB didn t support vst s & dxi s. you

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, Sep 8, 2007

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Hi Musikman
Musiclab drum tools is quite an interesting one. I tried the demo
version a year or so ago, but at that stage OMB didn't support vst's &
dxi's.
you can really only try it once for 20 days or so, then it won't work
anymore.http://www.musiclab.com/products/dtpd_info.htm

Fills as far as I've worked out, you can have 4.

If you wanted to create extra fills, you can actually use the
import/export part or track functions in OMB to build up a bit of a
library.
ie you may have a basic style you like ie the intro's , endings &
variations, but you'd like the same style with a different set of
fills, all you do is create a set of additional fills & export them
( ie save them),
then you do a clone of your style, delete the fills & import (load) the
other set.

Great way to mix n match any of the style parts, or tracks.

I'm currently building up a bit of a library of drum tracks using omb
import /export track function.

I find that a lot of EMC converted styles for my psr1500 don't sound
too great.
So what I actually do is replace a poorly converted drum track with a
drum track from one of my psr styles.

>
> Hello Rikki,
>
>
> By the way, this is a bit off topic, is there a limit on how many
> fills one can program in OMB?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Musikman
>
> > > Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts?
> > >
>

musikman4christ

Rikki, thanks again for your nice response. I have found that SGM180 soundfount sounds pretty good once its in an Ableton Live Midi track. I applied some of

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, Sep 18, 2007

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Rikki, thanks again for your nice response.

I have found that SGM180 soundfount sounds pretty good once its in
an Ableton Live Midi track. I applied some of the compressor, and
nice audio effects in Live to it and the sound has improved
drastically. Specially for the drums.

What I did was to use Midi yoke and have OMB send the output of midi
track 10 to Ableton which is hosting SFZ, the soundfont player,
which of course is using the SGM180 soundfont bank. I really liked
the quality and the ability to not have to use an external hardware
sound generator. I am doing some more trials as to figure out which
setup uses the least amount of CPU.

I only wish I could find another soundfont to be able to surpass the
quality of the SGM180.

Now, Rikki, I got an idea. You know I own a Korg Trinity V3, which
has some awsome sounding drumkits. Is there a way to turn each sound
that is placed on each key of the keyboard into a soundfont? If I
could do this, then that would really rock big time, cause not only
would it be in GM but the sound quality would be truly impressive.
You know, I have the Trinity Keyboard hooked up via digital output
using 48khz resolution. I could even do the soundfont at 24 bits or
even 32 bits but that would create huge files. Let me know if you
think this could be possible.

>
> Hi Musikman
> Musiclab drum tools is quite an interesting one. I tried the demo
> version a year or so ago, but at that stage OMB didn't support

vst's &

> dxi's.
> you can really only try it once for 20 days or so, then it won't

work

> anymore.
> http://www.musiclab.com/products/dtpd_info.htm
>
> Fills as far as I've worked out, you can have 4.
>
> If you wanted to create extra fills, you can actually use the
> import/export part or track functions in OMB to build up a bit of

a

> library.
> ie you may have a basic style you like ie the intro's , endings &
> variations, but you'd like the same style with a different set of
> fills, all you do is create a set of additional fills & export

them

> ( ie save them),
> then you do a clone of your style, delete the fills & import

(load) the

> other set.
>
> Great way to mix n match any of the style parts, or tracks.
>
> I'm currently building up a bit of a library of drum tracks using

Hi Musikman, not quite sure how your Trinity works. The only sample conversion software that I m aware of that converts Trinity samples is Chicken Systems.

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, Sep 18, 2007

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Hi Musikman,
not quite sure how your Trinity works.
The only sample conversion software that I'm aware of that converts
Trinity samples is Chicken Systems.
Whether or not the free version will do it or not, I don't know.
I'll give you the link anyway.

Would also depend whether the drum kit sounds are actual samples that
can be converted, or whether they internal sounds.
If not, the only other way would be to sample them yourself as a wav
file & convert to soundfont format.

Heaps of work involved & unless you know what you're doing, I think
you'd have negligable results.

I tried converting a set of gm giga samples to soundfont format using
a sample convertor, some worked ok , most were fairly awful.

Might actually be easier to replace the drum sounds you don't like
in the sgm180 font with ones that you do using an editor.

I was fairly involved with soundfonts last year. I still use them,
but currently I probably use my keyboards more. I've stopped
experimenting to the same degree as I used to.

Might be worth checking some of the old Synthzone posts, I used to
prattle on a fair bit about fonts etc, the same enthusiasm for fonts
wasn't really shared by others so the chatter sort of died away.

Rather than bore others that may not be interested in soundfonts, I
moderate the software arranger forum at synthzonehttp://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum43/HTML/000023.html
if I can be of any help , happy to do so, though I'll probably need
to get my thinking cap back on haa haa.

>
> Now, Rikki, I got an idea. You know I own a Korg Trinity V3, which
> has some awsome sounding drumkits. Is there a way to turn each

sound

> that is placed on each key of the keyboard into a soundfont? If I
> could do this, then that would really rock big time, cause not only
> would it be in GM but the sound quality would be truly impressive.
> You know, I have the Trinity Keyboard hooked up via digital output
> using 48khz resolution. I could even do the soundfont at 24 bits or
> even 32 bits but that would create huge files. Let me know if you
> think this could be possible.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Musikman
>

Claude Veziau

Hi Musikman, There s plenty of help on how to create soundfonts and even a few software (free and not free) to compile them. You could try for example Vienna

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Hi Musikman,

There's plenty of help on
how to create soundfonts and even a few software (free and not free) to compile
them. You could try for example Vienna Sound Font Studio developped by Creative,
I don't have the link but just do an internet search with the above words as
keywords and you'll easily find it, it's free and they have very good tutorials
included in the progam download package. And there are many good forums on
making sound fonts. Try www.syntfont.com
for starters and see what's up.

I have found that
SGM180 soundfount sounds pretty good once its in an Ableton Live Midi
track. I applied some of the compressor, and nice audio effects in Live to
it and the sound has improved drastically. Specially for the drums.

What I did was to use Midi yoke and have OMB send the output of midi
track 10 to Ableton which is hosting SFZ, the soundfont player, which
of course is using the SGM180 soundfont bank. I really liked the quality
and the ability to not have to use an external hardware sound generator. I
am doing some more trials as to figure out which setup uses the least
amount of CPU.

I only wish I could find another soundfont to be able to
surpass the quality of the SGM180.

Now, Rikki, I got an idea. You
know I own a Korg Trinity V3, which has some awsome sounding drumkits. Is
there a way to turn each sound that is placed on each key of the keyboard
into a soundfont? If I could do this, then that would really rock big
time, cause not only would it be in GM but the sound quality would be
truly impressive. You know, I have the Trinity Keyboard hooked up via
digital output using 48khz resolution. I could even do the soundfont at 24
bits or even 32 bits but that would create huge files. Let me know if you
think this could be possible.

Best
regards,

Musikman

--- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
"Rikki King" <rikkisbears@ ...> wrote:>> Hi
Musikman> Musiclab drum tools is quite an interesting one. I tried the
demo > version a year or so ago, but at that stage OMB didn't support
vst's & > dxi's. > you can really only try it once for
20 days or so, then it won't work > anymore.> http://www.musiclab .com/products/ dtpd_info. htm>
> Fills as far as I've worked out, you can have 4.> > If
you wanted to create extra fills, you can actually use the >
import/export part or track functions in OMB to build up a bit of a
> library.> ie you may have a basic style you like ie the
intro's , endings & > variations, but you'd like the same style
with a different set of > fills, all you do is create a set of
additional fills & export them > ( ie save them),> then
you do a clone of your style, delete the fills & import (load) the
> other set.> > Great way to mix n match any of the style
parts, or tracks.> > I'm currently building up a bit of a
library of drum tracks using omb > import /export track
function.> > I find that a lot of EMC converted styles for my
psr1500 don't sound > too great.> So what I actually do is
replace a poorly converted drum track with a > drum track from one
of my psr styles. > > Amazing the uses for omb.> >
best wishes> rikki> > --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com,
"musikman4christ" > <musikman4christ@ > wrote:>
>> > Hello Rikki,> > > > > > By the
way, this is a bit off topic, is there a limit on how many> > fills
one can program in OMB?> > > > > > Best
regards,> > Musikman> > > > > > Jamstix,
EZdrummer or even soundfonts?> > > > >
>>

Hi, sorry for butting in, if I m not mistaken, to use Creative s Vienna you actually have to have a creative soundcard like Audigy or Soundblaster Live etc

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Hi,
sorry for butting in,
if I'm not mistaken, to use Creative's "Vienna" you actually have to
have a creative soundcard like Audigy or Soundblaster Live etc
installed??
My new laptop came with a software version of Audigy already
installed, it loads fonts directly & Vienna works with it..

Claude, thanks for the reminder on Synthfont, Kenneth has his own
version of "Viena" different program, but is also a soundfont editor,
and it doesn't require a Creative soundcard.http://www.synthfont.com/
I used to always get the 2 programs confused.

Hi Rikki, joining this posting, not butting in at all. You re right on the button, Creative s Vienna needs to have one of their product installed which I

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Hi Rikki, joining this
posting, not butting in at all. You're right on the button, Creative's Vienna
needs to have one of their product installed which I assumed Musikman has, if
he/she can work with sound fonts, either that or Steven Rundt's excellent
Synthfont program which can play sound fonts (without even a soundcard
installed) (I wonder how we can hear the results though!) and also has its own
version of soundfont creator called Viena (only one "n").

I haven't tried to make
soundfonts yet as there are so many very good freebies all over the web and I'm
quite content with the few thousand I've downloaded to date. www.sf2midi.com is one very good site for free
soundfonts. Others are listed on Steven's links page and yet thousands of other
downloads can be found by simply putting "soundfonts" as a search word in google
search. And I'm not even about to mention what can be found on a peer-to-peer
files sharing network ;-)...

Musikman could just try out
some very "live" drum banks and forget about making them from scratch, in the
excitement.

Thanks friends for the responses. I appreciate all the ideas and input. You know, I think I give up the idea of making soundfonts. I think Im just going to

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Thanks friends for the responses. I appreciate all the ideas and input.

You know, I think I give up the idea of making soundfonts. I think Im
just going to try the ones that are for free at the link Claude gave us.
Otherwise, im just going to continue using the SGM180 on and apply good
effects to the drums in Ableton live.

I just wonder what you meant by "live" drums?

Rikki King

Hi Claude, I think what Rundt meant, was you don t need a Creative soundcard installed. Synthfont was a great way of using soundfonts on laptops, which

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Hi Claude,
I think what Rundt meant, was you don't need a Creative soundcard
installed.
Synthfont was a great way of using soundfonts on laptops, which
normally don't come with creative soundcards.

I used to have to use a fairly complicated software setup up to run
them , eventually creative brought out the audigy nx2 usb card which
simplified things.

My newer dell laptop actually has some sort of audigy software pre
installed. Only problem is the latency is too high to use it
successfully with omb in realtime, so I'm back to the prior software
setup I used to use.

As you mentioned there's a brilliant assortment of soundfonts available
for free, plus there's some very good commercial ones.

I've literally got giga bytes of them, though most of mine are
commercial.

Apart from my normal free & commercial gm banks,
I also found a company that actually has created fonts from
Korg M1 Synth
Triton Orchestral Bank
Matrix Synth
and a couple of Ambient Synth banks,( reminds me a bit of the
Wavestation sounds)
They're not madly expensive either. Far cheaper than buying the
original synths. haa haa

best wishes
Rikki

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, Claude Veziau <cveziau@...>
wrote:
either that or Steven Rundt's excellent Synthfont program which can
play sound fonts (without even a soundcard installed) (I wonder how we
can hear the results though!) and also has its own version of soundfont
creator called Viena (only one "n").

Rikki King

Hi Musikman, I think making them would really not be worth the effort. Could still be worth your while checking out the Viena editor or a soundfont

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Hi Musikman,
I think making them would really not be worth the effort.

Could still be worth your while checking out the " Viena" editor or a
soundfont librarian so that you could build up a personalized
soundfont bank, or maybe even edit the sgm 180 drums to suit.

One of my soundfont banks actually has a brilliant drumset in the way
it's been mapped. Some of the gm drum banks I find are really
difficult to work out how they've created them. This particular one
is so simple to work out, I can just replace the original sample with
a drum sample from one of the other fonts, I can slowly build up a
custom drum font replacing samples as I go . For instance, some of
the brush swish samples are really awful, if I come across a better
one, I just replace the existing.

Maybe that s it Rikki. Well I still use synthfont very much to play and render my song to wave as individual tracks. I find it faster and as efficient as

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, Sep 19, 2007

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Maybe that's it
Rikki.

Well I still use synthfont
very much to play and render my song to wave as individual tracks. I find
it faster and as efficient as anything else I've encountered to date. Then
I open each wave in Adobe audition multitrack to do the mix and mixdown to
stereo wav.

I aslo use mastering
programs to polish everything up before burning to CD.

I know what you mean about
latency on a portable, I tried many setups and even XP tweaks to keep the PC as
dedicated as possible. The best USB interface I found is the Tascam US122 which
gives a latency of about 24ms, pretty good with soundfonts but no way with VST
instruments. A good program with low latency is Tascam's Giga studio 3.0 with
the setback of having to limit the number of instruments because of the CPU
instability, I would need a second HD installed but no way you can do that in a
portable and USB hard drives just aren't fast enough for music
purposes.

My most stable machine
remains my trusty ol' Windows98SE equipped with Audigy 2ZS soundcard. I
never have any latency trouble nor even audio glitches with this PC some would
call a dinosaur. Still, on 1 GB of ram and 1400 ghz, I only experience midi
latency on a few VSTis and then this is almost negligible. Too bad most newer
sound libraries are no longer supporting 98... they make a mint with me, same
thing with audio and midi software, I'm stuck with the old versions. Playing
live with OMB on this PC is so stable you would believe it. XGworks gives
me all the midi editing power I need.

I even tried XP on a
desktop PC and didn't like it because of all the so-called "services" eating up
si much CPU makes it almost unusable as such with music, unless you do a clean
XP installation and devote the PC exclusively to being a DAW, removing all the
unnecessary baubles such as internet, screen savers, firewalls,
etc.

This is my next major move,
to have a computer only for music purposes and nothing else. But I'll have it
built customised for my needs.

Hi Claude, actually if I use my Audiophile with Brainspawn Forte/ Live Synth pro software etc to host my soundfonts, I don t appear have a latency problem. I

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, Sep 20, 2007

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Hi Claude,
actually if I use my Audiophile with Brainspawn Forte/ Live Synth pro
software etc to host my soundfonts, I don't appear have a latency
problem. I can quite comfortably have a mix of keyboard & soundfont
tracks playing style parts. On the other hand using the internal card
with the pre loaded Audigy software, the delay is very noticeable,
(totally unuseable) which was rather dissapointing.
I don't think I'll be rushing out to buy a cpu hungry sample player.

best wishes
Rikki

p.s.
i still use xgworks also, but I'm also using Powertracks 12.
Has a great new function that splits a drum track into seperate
tracks ie 1 drum type per track. Great for editing.
I think I may have mentioned gn midi did it, now, so does PT12.

Hi Rikki, I do have Forte and Ultimate plugsound plug ins and standalones but I don t like most of their sounds (my personal taste, I guess) so I do a lot of

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, Sep 21, 2007

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Hi Rikki,

I do have Forte and
Ultimate plugsound plug ins and standalones but I don't like most of their
sounds (my personal taste, I guess) so I do a lot of mix n' match and make my
own banks with Soundfont Librarian and I like to play live and sequence in real
time. As a pianist (some would say 'piano player'), the best piano sound I found
was and is the Sonic Implants SB piano soundfont, though I've tried some of the
best so-called pro pianos. I have my sights on getting the True piano plug in
and standalone from 4Front, I got the demo andwill give it a shot. The video
demo on their site blasted me.

Actually I bought gn midi
when it first came out and still use it and update it. Also Powertarcks was my
very first sequencing program and I still have PT10 but almost don't use it
anymore because of the hassle it is to handle piano roll editing, XGWorks
does that so much easier, I find.

In any case, all this is a
matter of preference, as long as we make music the way we like it, who cares
which software we use? (grin)

Hi Claude,actually if I use my Audiophile with Brainspawn Forte/ Live
Synth pro software etc to host my soundfonts, I don't appear have a
latency problem. I can quite comfortably have a mix of keyboard &
soundfont tracks playing style parts. On the other hand using the internal
card with the pre loaded Audigy software, the delay is very noticeable,
(totally unuseable) which was rather dissapointing.I don't think I'll
be rushing out to buy a cpu hungry sample player.

best
wishesRikki

p.s.i still use xgworks also, but I'm also using
Powertracks 12.Has a great new function that splits a drum track into
seperate tracks ie 1 drum type per track. Great for editing.I think I
may have mentioned gn midi did it, now, so does PT12.

Hi Claude , are we referring to the same Forte ( Brainspawn ) it s a vst/dxi etc host, doesn t actually have sounds? I tried the True Piano demo when it

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, Sep 21, 2007

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Hi Claude ,
are we referring to the same "Forte" ( Brainspawn ) it's a vst/dxi
etc host, doesn't actually have sounds?

I tried the True Piano demo when it first came out, beautiful piano.
Even worked flawlessly with my laptop/audiophile card ie no
detectable latency. Only reason I didn't buy it ,I have a top of the
range Clavinova ( CLP, no styles). When I played the True Piano demo
thru the clavinova 's sound system I could barely tell the difference
as to which one I was playing. Pretty amazing a $6,000 AUD Clavinova
against a $200 AUD piece of software. Could have saved myself a
fortune haa haa.

I have Sonic Implants GM Font or are you referring to a dedicated
piano font?
Amazingly for style piano parts my favourite is the sgm128 piano.
Very small, pretty bland but it works well in arpeggiated psr piano
styles.

>
> Hi Rikki,
>
> I do have Forte and Ultimate plugsound plug ins and standalones but

I don't like most of their sounds (my personal taste, I guess) so I
do a lot of mix n' match and make my own banks with Soundfont
Librarian and I like to play live and sequence in real time. As a
pianist (some would say 'piano player'), the best piano sound I found
was and is the Sonic Implants SB piano soundfont, though I've tried
some of the best so-called pro pianos. I have my sights on getting
the True piano plug in and standalone from 4Front, I got the demo
andwill give it a shot. The video demo on their site blasted me.

>

musikman f

Hi Rikki, I have been using OMB 10.0 lately and while now my PC can handle more tracks and stuff, when I try to import tracks in OMB in the style editor OMB

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, Dec 1, 2010

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Hi Rikki,

I have been using OMB 10.0 lately and while now my PC can handle more tracks and stuff, when I try to import tracks in OMB in the style editor OMB crashes to desktop. Completely. No matter how many times I try or if I use other styles, it crashes all the time as I try to import a track from another style. Does this happen to you?

Thanks,

Musikman

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, Claude Veziau <cveziau@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Musikman,
>
> There's plenty of help on how to create soundfonts and even a few software (free and not free) to compile them. You could try for example Vienna Sound Font Studio developped by Creative, I don't have the link but just do an internet search with the above words as keywords and you'll easily find it, it's free and they have very good tutorials included in the progam download package. And there are many good forums on making sound fonts. Try www.syntfont.com for starters and see what's up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Claude Veziau
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De : musikman4christ
> À : onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Envoyé : 18 septembre, 2007 19:29
> Objet : [onemanbandgroup] Re: Hello Friends, Is anyone using OMB with a Drum VSTi?
>
>
> Rikki, thanks again for your nice response.
>
> I have found that SGM180 soundfount sounds pretty good once its in
> an Ableton Live Midi track. I applied some of the compressor, and
> nice audio effects in Live to it and the sound has improved
> drastically. Specially for the drums.
>
> What I did was to use Midi yoke and have OMB send the output of midi
> track 10 to Ableton which is hosting SFZ, the soundfont player,
> which of course is using the SGM180 soundfont bank. I really liked
> the quality and the ability to not have to use an external hardware
> sound generator. I am doing some more trials as to figure out which
> setup uses the least amount of CPU.
>
> I only wish I could find another soundfont to be able to surpass the
> quality of the SGM180.
>
> Now, Rikki, I got an idea. You know I own a Korg Trinity V3, which
> has some awsome sounding drumkits. Is there a way to turn each sound
> that is placed on each key of the keyboard into a soundfont? If I
> could do this, then that would really rock big time, cause not only
> would it be in GM but the sound quality would be truly impressive.
> You know, I have the Trinity Keyboard hooked up via digital output
> using 48khz resolution. I could even do the soundfont at 24 bits or
> even 32 bits but that would create huge files. Let me know if you
> think this could be possible.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Musikman
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Rikki King"
> <rikkisbears@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Musikman
> > Musiclab drum tools is quite an interesting one. I tried the demo
> > version a year or so ago, but at that stage OMB didn't support
> vst's &
> > dxi's.
> > you can really only try it once for 20 days or so, then it won't
> work
> > anymore.
> > http://www.musiclab.com/products/dtpd_info.htm
> >
> > Fills as far as I've worked out, you can have 4.
> >
> > If you wanted to create extra fills, you can actually use the
> > import/export part or track functions in OMB to build up a bit of
> a
> > library.
> > ie you may have a basic style you like ie the intro's , endings &
> > variations, but you'd like the same style with a different set of
> > fills, all you do is create a set of additional fills & export
> them
> > ( ie save them),
> > then you do a clone of your style, delete the fills & import
> (load) the
> > other set.
> >
> > Great way to mix n match any of the style parts, or tracks.
> >
> > I'm currently building up a bit of a library of drum tracks using
> omb
> > import /export track function.
> >
> > I find that a lot of EMC converted styles for my psr1500 don't
> sound
> > too great.
> > So what I actually do is replace a poorly converted drum track
> with a
> > drum track from one of my psr styles.
> >
> > Amazing the uses for omb.
> >
> > best wishes
> > rikki
> >
> > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "musikman4christ"
> > <musikman4christ@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rikki,
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, this is a bit off topic, is there a limit on how many
> > > fills one can program in OMB?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Musikman
> > >
> > > > > Jamstix, EZdrummer or even soundfonts?
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
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