I mean with all of the current evidence I understand why people would think its fake now, but I don't get why you would use that as the basis of your reasoning. Sure that's how it was in the past, but it doesn't mean that's how it will continue in the future. Especially given the promise that we won't see another year long raid tier. Seeing a 5.5 or 5.6 with some build up lore to the next expansion is totally plausible.

You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

Seriously?

You might want to watch the burdens of Shoahao, Blizzard seems VERY interested in tying the MoP storyline to the legion.

Also none of what you're saying makes any sense.

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"Don't discuss religion or politics at the dinner table."

No, it makes much more sense to discuss it with complete strangers shrouded in the anonymity of the internet.

You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

Seriously?

Yes seriously. While the horde are deciding a new leader and the alliance is heading back to their places via boats(which could take weeks if not more) Lord Kazzak will appear once again and starts summoning the legion... we kill him and his minions and then head through the portal he created to the next expansion... and this all happens in 5.5 What is problem ?

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No they aren't. The Burdens of Shaohao was about what happened thousands of years ago during the Sundering, and how the emperor protected Pandaria from it.

We already knew about the Sundering. We already knew that the emperor separated Pandaria from the rest of the world. The video just showed us how it happened, and how it tied to the Sha.

Yeah and how it's related to the fact that the mists dissipated right before the legion would attack in order to allow the pandaren to join the battle after they mastered their emotions like Shaohao did, and also allow other races to come and learn those lessons just in time for Legion attack.

You're talking about two different things here. That logo you posted indicates the start of an entirely new storyline, not an extension of lore from MoP, or the aftermath of the SoO. It is not an epilogue to MoP, it is the beginning of a legion invasion. That doesn't make sense if Blizzard's goal is to have a fitting conclusion to the MoP storyline, or to expand MoP's lore. Its very fitting if Blizzard's goal is to start a new storyline, and a new expansion, which they don't do until the new expansion is near release.

I mean, following 5.4 there won't even be a Horde warchief, and we still have to deal with the aftermath of our actions in Pandaria. Now you're saying while we're sorting all of that out, its going to start raining infernals?

Seriously?

I'm now pretty swamped with evidence of this logo not being real but I have to say, YOUR reasoning is WAY off. Seriously? You think green logo and name Skysunder means we'll just jump on boats and leave Pandaria to go fight the Legion? No. Of course we are going to get a new warchief and of course we will tie some loose ends, but that doesn't mean we couldn't have a pre-expansion event with some infernals tearing up the sky and falling down all around the Azeroth - local defense would be needed, some quest chain perhaps and at the end of the chain - an ingame video of the main Antagonist saying "Hi." making his threat or whatever - that's what I call a proper introduction to a new story, which would develop more with 6.0 and on. It would be suprising, effective, strong and people would love Blizzard for doing that - I'd suggest you open your mind a little bit more, it seems you have no fantasy at all.

It has a black background because it's a VFX test and would be composed on top of the trailer once that was available. They're not going to edit the trailer video in the same composition (or even file I'd guess) as the title. My biggest doubt is that the flame effect is horizontally mirrored. Whether that's because it's a legit early pass/proof or lazy part of a fake, who knows.

It's more damning that whoever caught it didn't take a video of it. Who doesn't have a phone/camera that can record video in this day and age? 'Skysunder PTR Information' tab also seems a bit forced. They'd have no reason to collect together PTR notes online at this sort of stage; much more likely they have internal document(s) used to track changes.

Ease of sharing around the office/etc, rather than telling people the location on the network storage (which complicates things if anyone is out of the office and needs to review work). I've uploaded videos/images to (private) services before to share with colleagues for similar reasons.

True. They could have a patch leading up to the 6.0 world event, but "Skysunder" doesn't suggest that.

Easy sharing inside office? LOL u think Blizzard can't share without third party inside office? I work as IT (not in Blizzard) but belive me it's possible without third party.

What he thinks is that there's some kind of rule that if a new threat pops up it HAS to be a new expansion. It can't be a mini patch. He's going by the old patch pattern, which makes sense, but that doesn't prove anything. Could Blizzard introduce a 5.5 patch before the new expansion that re-ignites the Legion threat.... absolutely. There's nothing stopping them from doing that.

"Don't discuss religion or politics at the dinner table."

No, it makes much more sense to discuss it with complete strangers shrouded in the anonymity of the internet.

What he thinks is that there's some kind of rule that if a new threat pops up it HAS to be a new expansion. It can't be a mini patch. He's going by the old patch pattern, which makes sense, but that doesn't prove anything. Could Blizzard introduce a 5.5 patch before the new expansion that re-ignites the Legion threat.... absolutely. There's nothing stopping them from doing that.

Dude, the sky raining infernals IS a new expansion, because it has nothing to do with the Pandaria storyline.

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Originally Posted by Skorpionss

Yes seriously. While the horde are deciding a new leader and the alliance is heading back to their places via boats(which could take weeks if not more) Lord Kazzak will appear once again and starts summoning the legion... we kill him and his minions and then head through the portal he created to the next expansion... and this all happens in 5.5 What is problem ?

Horde and Alliance forces still in Pandaria.

Repercussion from the destruction of the Vale.

Possible deaths of major Alliance and Horde characters we still don't know about.

A leaderless, divided Horde.

The Alliance deciding what to do while they're occupying Ogrimmar.

Thrall, Chen, and Vol'Jin's actions following the Seige.

Anduin's possible role in Alliance/Horde reconciliation.

But let's forget all that, because some fanboys need their legion expansion to start early.

Yeah and how it's related to the fact that the mists dissipated right before the legion would attack in order to allow the pandaren to join the battle after they mastered their emotions like Shaohao did, and also allow other races to come and learn those lessons just in time for Legion attack.

Which shows no indication of having actually happened. We'd need a patch AFTER 5.4 showing that. You know, a PROPER epilogue to 5.4 and the entire expansion.

The 5.5 youtube leak is fake, the TDB Gamescom Trailer is fake, TDB's trademark may be fake but isn't confirmed to be fake, and the next expansion is Corgis Unleashed.

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