The lapdog media's recent birther bashing week may have temporarily lessened the clamor for Obama's Birth Certificate, but the media doesn't understand the scorn of the American people. We don't aprreciate being treated like idiots.

The media also doesn't realize that Obama's attempts to literally seal his entire life literally from the day he was born is what has fueled the all the research, theories and innuendos that have come out. That is what intelligent people are forced to do when seeking answers with incomplete information.

I am not certain that Obama's actual birth certificate will prove he was or wasn't born in the United States, but what I know with 100% certainty is that there is something on that document that he does not want America to know, and that it will lead to further questions, the answers to to which he doesn't want us to know either.

So let's focus on not just the BC, but on the whole web of secrecy surrounding Obama's life, of which the BC is the first small piece of a much larger puzzle.

What gave birth to the birthers? Not hatred, prejudice or even political alignment necessarily, but rather a sealed life of a man who refuses to let the light of day shine on his past.

I think we'd be surprised at how many Americans would really like to know what information is behind all those seals. I've asked a prominent pollster to poll the American public about there desire to have Obama release not just the BC, but medical records, academnic records, etc. Would you please do the same? (Polling websites all have "Contact Us" links.)

We are not to blame for asking questions, Obama is to blame for withholding answers.

With every passing day that he continues to stonewall, the passion of the American people for openess and honesty will only grow. We will not be stifled.

The long form BC will only tell the American people one part of his qualification as a “Natural Born Citzen”. It will not contain where his father and mother were born or if they were citizens of the United States of America or not.

Original birth certificate  Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license  Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license  Not released
Soetoro adoption records  Not released
Besuki School application  Released
Punahou School records  Not released
Selective Service Registration  Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records  Not released
Passport (Pakistan)  Not released
Columbia College records  Not released
Columbia thesis  Not released
Harvard College records  Not released
Harvard Law Review articles  None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate  None
Medical records  Not released
Illinois State Senate records  None
Illinois State Senate schedule  Lost
Law practice client list  Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles  None

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posted on 07/29/2009 10:54:02 AM PDT
by webschooner
(First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandh)

The problem, which I’m sure he knows, is that if he comes up with a birth certificate, it better match all other information about him. College records, passports, Selective Service, etc. One mistake and he’s done. He would have to cover up his whole life.

"I am not certain that Obama's actual birth certificate will prove he was or wasn't born in the United States, but what I know with 100% certainty is that there is something on that document that he does not want America to know, and that it will lead to further questions, the answers to to which he doesn't want us to know either.

So let's focus on not just the BC, but on the whole web of secrecy surrounding Obama's life, of which the BC is the first small piece of a much larger puzzle."

BUMP!!

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posted on 07/29/2009 10:57:07 AM PDT
by STARWISE
(The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)

This could be right in a broader sense. Obama, or his advisors, do not want an objective time line laid out for his life that could show some really embarrassing things. By pooh-poohing the birth, he pooh-poohs the past.

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posted on 07/29/2009 10:57:49 AM PDT
by HiTech RedNeck
(The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)

“So let’s focus on not just the BC, but on the whole web of secrecy surrounding Obama’s life, of which the BC is the first small piece of a much larger puzzle.”

The BC isn’t the only document he is hiding - see:

OBAMA: THROWING PAPUA UNDER THE BUS
By An American Expat in Southeast Asia  Larry Martin

“In an article entitled  A Forgotten Cause, Peter Tatchell sheds light on the plight of the West Papuans, many of whom are Christians and have suffered under Indonesias brutal policy of ethnic and religious persecution. The untold story though is how the Obama campaign would sell out the West Papuans in a desperate attempt to protect Obamas presidential bid.”

Well, upon the release of the perfectly forged long-form birth certificate, the force would be taken out of the “birther” movement. Therefore, interest in the other records would be relegated to a fringe audience. Or at least, this is how I imagine he outlines his strategy.

Funny thing. With all the "confirmations and re-confirmations" this week that obama's manger was in Hawaii and all the attendant bashing of the "conspiracy nuts" who just won't see reason -- I've gone from being ambivalent about where he was born to being pretty damn sure the dude was born overseas and his momma had the birth registered later in Hawaii. I wonder how typical this reaction may be.

“...but rather a sealed life of a man who refuses to let the light of day shine on his past. “

i
Suspicion Lyrics
Artist(Band):Elvis Presley

(Words & music: Doc Pomus / Mort Shuman)

Every time you kiss me Im still not certain that you love me,
Every time you hold me Im still not certain that you care
Though you keep on saying you really, really, really love me
Do you speak the same words to someone else when Im not there.

Every time you call me and tell me we should meet tomorrow
I cant help but think that youre meeting someone else tonight,
Why should our romance just keep on causing me such sorrow?
Why am I so doubtful whenever youre out of sight?

Darling, if you love me, I beg you wait a little longer,
Wait until I drive all these foolish fears out of my mind,
How I hope and pray that our love will keep on growing stronger,
Maybe Im suspicious cause true love is so hard to find.

RC2, Precisely and that is why he is knit in his own web of deceit. Should he release a BC that might not match others that may have been used school admission, etc., he is screwed. Also, I believe that the question for Janet Okumba is “is each item of information on the COLB identical to the information on the COLB?” I think he’ll have a problem there!

Let’s just make this statement to the media: We are the AMERICAN PUBLIC and this will be over when WE SAY ITS OVER!!!!

"We need to drop this and drop Sarah because the mainstream media will use this against us to make us look bad." The "conservatives" and RINOs who want to give Hussein a pass could easily substitute Sarah with the BC. we get 'bad press" because of her. The truth is Obam and his troops at the liberal newspapers and network TV & cable news will attack anything that threatens him.

I still can’t figure how a candidate for a major polical party got the nomination and got innagurated with ALL his records sealed. Who the hell was minding the store? Where the hell was McCain? This could have been a HUGE issue back then. If I was running against such a person, I would have made it a daily rant, “What are you hiding?”.
Maybe that ought to become our rant. Not only, where’s the birth certificate, but also what are you hiding?

Satin Doll. HUIGE BUMP! That is an amazing article and provides yet another piece to an ever-growing puzzle, I recommend everyone read it. You’ll have to scroll down several articles on the left to find it.

It’s been speculated here on FR that the main thing to be concealed is his PARENTAGE. That is, I suppose, who is cited as the father in any documents, and whether the parents were married.
While I can’t agree that this small issue by itself would be anywhere near enough to justify the huge efforts undertaken by teams of lawyers to subvert all challenges to Obama’s Birth Issue, it seems that there’s an interconnected web of dubious “missing information”, or , rather , information that ‘should’ be missing, and is therefore being concealed, hidden, denied access to, in many different areas: e.g. : health and doctor records,
university documents relating to scholarships, attendance, and student grants or aid, passport information,and so on.
If virtually ALL of the ‘life history’ and ‘curriculum vitae’ records are SO hard to access, there MUST BE A VERY GOOD REASON FOR IT. It’s THAT that forms the question that’s gotta be asked, and the challenge that has to be made. As it is, all this stalling, and obfuscation, and lip service that’s paid now and then , ‘officially’ (Robert Gibbs) and ‘unofficially’, (Bill O’Reilly, and yes, even Mark Levin, by omission and impatience) to the
Birther issue being already resolved and laid to rest, only makes the project harder to bring to a head. Yes, I read the National Review piece a day or two ago, that characterized the Birther movement as looking for “a magic bullet”, and have to agree with it: that does NOT however , negate or discredit all the logically pertinent issues about just what is going on with Obama’s lawyers and the considerable effort to conceal EVERYTHING about Obama, and his lineage. So far, there has been but ONE piece of actual writing that’s been given us, bearing his name, a standard college student piece called “Breaking the War Mentality” from some Columbia University student magazine, The Sundial, from ‘83 . It bears the name “Barack Obama”, and may or may not have been penned by him.(For all I knew , it may have been ghost-written by Bill Ayers, as “DREAMS FROM MY FATHER” seems to have been.)
It is VERY dull, and bears the pawprints of academic amateurism all over it.This, the very FIRST ‘early’ piece of writing to surface, only surfaced about a month or so ago, which I found very curious, considering how much of an issue has been made for a year or more as to just who BO actually is, and how this “HIGH IQ” individual seems to have no ‘paper trail’ besides two very carefully crafted ‘passports’ into Significance, these self-memorializing “biographies”, waaaaaayyyyyyy premature, that still were accepted as the
‘fait accompli’ of someone who could and, hey,why not, SHOULD be President.

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posted on 07/29/2009 11:19:54 AM PDT
by supremedoctrine
(Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)

Obama won his Senate race by having his opponent’s (Jack Ryan) divorce records unsealed. The divorce records showed that the opponent had taken his wife to some swingers clubs and the opponent pulled out of the race because of fear of the damage done to his 8 (ish) year old child.

His wife was the very pretty Jeri Ryan who played “Seven of Nine” in Star Trek Next Generation.

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posted on 07/29/2009 11:21:58 AM PDT
by autumnraine
(You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)

Let’s also remember the ARMY of investigators that descended upon Alaska hell-bent to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin. As long as it’s a conservative under the microscope, guilty until proven guilty is the order of the day! The nuts that were saying that Sarah wasn’t Trig’s mother were the original BIRTHERS!

The B.C. is a decoy and smoke screen that press secretary Giddy is using masterfully to distract the gullible press corp from the real deal you are mentioning, an exceptional tactic of hiding the real person of PINO. Brokaw and Charlie Rose said before the election that THEY didn't know who Barry really was!

Gibby is having a blast here, he is making them look foolish in the same way Rummy did with his "clients" at press conferences. Gibby is only interested in keeping the press corps's attention span on the B.C.!!

If the other real damaging and swept under the floor (sealed) records and the unquestionable fact that the father, Obama Sr. was a British Subject is shot right open, the house of cards will come crashing down. That is why we have a Constitutional crisis of unheard consequences on hand!!!

“Frank Marshal Davis is the real father of Barack Obama and the reason for the coverup of the birth certificate.”

(at the link below, photographs show Obama’s young mother was intimate with her father’s communist friend Frank Marshall Davis—shown nude at his apartment-—I now believe she became pregnant by him at 17—they used Obama Sr as a coverup))

Obama conceals his records because he is identity may not be legal? what father is listed on his birth certificate? What name? What does this mean to his presidency? Is this the reason Obama’s name is linked to multiple social security numbers including a 119 ear old man in Connecticut?

His identity is more confused than ever. Just think of it. The man that is shaping our country is a man of many faces, which one is real?

Journalist (and attorney) Andy Martin says that Frank Marshal Davis is the real father of Barack Obama and the reason for the coverup of the birth certificate.

I can add that photos show Sen. Obama more physically resembles Franklin Marshall Davis than he does Barack Obama Senior from Kenya.

That would make Obama a US born citizen, but one involved in a marital scandal and whose real name is not on either the birth certificate or his filing papers for being on the presidential ballot in all 57 er 50 states.

If that is true, that could be fought in both state and the federal Supreme Courts, getting Obamas name removed from ballots in a few key states and some lesser populated ones as well.

This story is like a soap opera on steroids and LSD.

Andy Martin speculates that Obama is going to Hawaii to squelch a deathbead confession by his grandmother, as she knows the truth (which may well be stranger than fiction).

Who here really believed Obama was going to Hawaii this week out of concern for his grandma? Whereas hardcore Obama voters couldnt care less what the truth is, this could lose Obama a lot of voter support. Mr. Martins latest post - and link - appear below.

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 22, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin told a Honolulu news conference today that after an intense international investigation he is convinced that Barack Obama, Junior, the presidential candidate is really the son of Obamas controversial mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

Mendacious adults switched Obama at birth. That is why he has refused to allow access to the original or vault birth certificate, Martin told a Honolulu news conference.

We believe the original certificate did not list a father. Barack Obama became the father as a result of an agreement between Ann Dunham, Frank Marshall Davis and Barack Obama, Sr.

Davis was already married to a White Woman. He did not need a nonmarital child by a second one.

Ann probably refused to have what was then called a back alley abortion. Davis may have felt that Obama would face less stigma with an African background than a Negro one.

The civil rights revolution, of course, turned that gambit upside down. In discovering and understanding what happened we cannot forget we are dealing with events in 1961, not 2008.

The irony in all of this is that Obama once stated he did not want his daughters to be victimized with a child. And he is alive because his mother took the contrary view.

Barack Obama has known this since adulthood, and the shock of this discovery still reverberates in his psyche.

Ironically, what I have to say today dilutes the Muslim theory that has propagated. Davis was not a Muslim.

If Obama had told the truth at some point in his life, instead of living endlessly with the lies that were imposed on him by the adults in his life, we would have avoided a great deal of confusion. I, for one, have deep compassion for Mr. Obama. He is not the first person in history to be caught up in this kind of family fraud.

The disclosure by the two women in his life that he was not the son of his father also explains why he manifests such extreme ambivalence to both his mother and grandmother. He is angry because he was cheated of his real father.

Obama was robbed of his birthright of being the son of civil rights royalty, and of a father with whom he was completely simpatico.

He could have grown up the son of Frank Marshall Davis, civil rights pioneer and activist, cutting-edge journalist, poet and man of letters. Mr. Davis was an extraordinary man in a dark period of this nations history, the pre-dawn of the civil rights era.

Obama has probably suspended his campaign and is flying to Honolulu because he is deathly afraid his grandmother may make a dying declaration and blow the whistle on his family fraud. Dying people often blurt out the truth.

The true facts of Obamas parentage also reflect why there has been so much tension and alienation, as well as genuine love, in Obamas relationship with his grandmother.

There has been a great deal of confusion and misconception about Frank Marshall Davis. A brief history lesson is essential to understanding the bizarre facts of Obamas provenance.

During the 1920s and 30s many Negros (African-Americans) became communists because the Soviet Union and the Communist Party USA promised to end racial segregation and Jim Crow laws in the United States.

The Democratic Party, of course, was the powerful force behind segregation and Jim Crow. So it is a twist of fate that the same party that oppressed Blacks has now nominated one for president.

Madelyn Dunham is the last surviving person who knows the truth about the switch. That is why as we closed in on Dunham, Obama went ballistic, cancelled his campaign and came to Hawaii to head us off.

I actually carry an official, certified pocket-sized birth certificate on me at all times [Andy shows a copy to media]. But this is NOT my birth certificate. The original certificate is held in the City Clerks vault in Middletown, Connecticut. That is what has come to be known as the vault copy.

Likewise, the document that Obama has plastered over the Internet is NOT his original birth certificate or even a copy of his original certificate. It is a computer generated facsimile of an official record and nothing more.

The original certificate was either handwritten or typewritten, not computer-generated in 1961. No one has ever seen that original certificate except the people that are working so hard to keep it hidden from the American people.

I am asking Judge Ayabe to impound the value certificate and have the court hold it for safekeeping.

By the time Barack Obama learned who he was, it was too late to change his identity. He was who he was, so he continued the ruse of being the son of an African herder, which was yet another lie.

Dreams From My Father bears no connection to dreams from Barack Obama; there were none. It was Frank Marshall Davis who communicated his dreams to his secret son.

There is a simple way for Obama to resolve this controversy: he can either admit the truth of these facts and order the immediate release of his vault certificate; or he can submit to a DNA test.

We can conduct a Maury Povich-style DNA test to determine filiation between Obama and his brothers, one of whom blogs at BarackObama.com.

In closing, I can only say that we used the fictional Hawaii Five-O as our dramatic template for this investigative operation. We could have as easily used the great, real-life Hawaii detective Chang Apana as our polestar. He was featured in yesterdays newspaper.

As for Mr. Obama, all I can say is Bookem Danno. Case solved. Barack Obama the presidential candidate is the son of Frank Marshall Davis. Martin stated.

I bear Mr. Obama no ill will and no animus. I have only been a faithful servant of the search for truth, and I believe we finally know the secret truths about who Barack Obama really is: the son of Frank Marshall Davis.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I recently decided to oppose Barack Obamas election and became Executive Director of The Stop Obama Coalition, http://StopObamaCoalition.com. By default, I became the national leader of the anti-Obama movement.

I am not acting as either a Democrat or Republican. I have had no contact whatsoever with the McCain Campaign. I am not a member of any political organization.

I don’t recall if he was directly involved in it, but the media went to work on his behalf against the Democratic fronrunner, Blair Hull, and the GOP nominee, Jack Ryan. In Ryan’s case, the Chicago Tribune successfully sued to have his sealed divorce documents unsealed and released. The rest is history.

That and that when Keyes was running against him, he mentioned in a debate that he wasn’t even eligible to be President or something like that and Obama said “That doesn’t matter, I’m not running for President.”

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posted on 07/29/2009 11:38:28 AM PDT
by autumnraine
(You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)

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