Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:42:52 PM@markust That is a huge lie. Whatever makes you feel better about loosing I guess.You forgot to qualify your statement. It should have read, "According to propaganda from a bunch of lying left-wing Democrats, that is a huge lie."

Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:46:40 AMI will admit I was wrong in my statement, "They sued because there wasn't enough time." That was the ruling not why they sued. They sued because the laws would disenfranchise black, poor, elderly and student voters. They sued because the laws would disenfranchise a vast majority of Democrats in these four groups. They sued because one party was trying to win an election by limiting the other parties votes.

Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:36:08 AMFine, I'll bite. Show me one lawyer for the defense that is saying they are suing/or sued because the law is racist. The lawyer has to be involved in the case. They can not just be some random layer on a pundits show.

Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:50:22 AMmarkust: Shall I link to some TV interviews about the subject before the rulings? Or are you conceding the point that the charges against voter ID laws were racism, not time?

Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:37:28 AM"They sued saying it was racist. In all the TV interviews it was charges of racism, racism, ageism, racism, the poor, racism. Never once did I hear them say "it's not enough time".

I'm done with you. I'm not going to waste time on a liar. You know pretty soon you are going to have no one to argue against and you will only have your dishonesty and inability to admit you are wrong to blame.

Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:07:03 AMmarkust: They sued saying it was racist. In all the TV interviews it was charges of racism, racism, ageism, racism, the poor, racism. Never once did I hear them say "it's not enough time".

What the judges ruled and the charges were, were two different things.

Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:24:54 AMThey sued because there wasn't enough time. And in the two example I linked they won because there was not enough time. I would like to think that you are not this stupid.

Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:28:07 AMmarkust: It only takes a few minutes to get an ID, if you don't go during the busiest times of the day (noon and after 4pm). 6 months was more than enough time, but instead of readying their voters the DNC decided to turn it into an issue of race and sue in court.

Friday, October 12, 2012 11:40:40 PM"Voter fraud gave us Obamacare. Al Frankin's margin of victory was less than the number of felons who voted illegally in that election, and a poll showed that 90% of them voted Democrat. Franken went on to cast the deciding vote on Obamacare. Voter fraud really does matter, and don't let the cheating Democrats tell you differently."

That is a huge lie. Whatever makes you feel better about loosing I guess.

Friday, October 12, 2012 9:38:30 PMVoter fraud gave us Obamacare. Al Frankin's margin of victory was less than the number of felons who voted illegally in that election, and a poll showed that 90% of them voted Democrat. Franken went on to cast the deciding vote on Obamacare. Voter fraud really does matter, and don't let the cheating Democrats tell you differently.

If you can't get your $#!+ together enough to get a photo ID, you don't deserve a say as to who should win the election.

Friday, October 12, 2012 9:22:44 PM"Because you will have less ability to find proof of Voter ID "disenfranchisement" than you will voter fraud."

The courts halted South Carolina's voter ID law for the Nov election because there was no way everyone would be able to get an ID in time. Implementing the law so quickly would have disenfranchised some voters.

Friday, October 12, 2012 9:17:45 PM"Because you will have less ability to find proof of Voter ID "disenfranchisement" than you will voter fraud."

Florida's new law to end Sunday voting was thrown out because so many African American's would not be able to make it to the polls without their once a week ride they get to church - a day known as Souls to Polls.

Friday, October 12, 2012 9:05:36 PM"Because you will have less ability to find proof of Voter ID "disenfranchisement" than you will voter fraud."

The courts halted Pennsylvania's voter ID law for the Nov election because there was no way everyone would be able to get an ID in time. Implementing the law so quickly would have disenfranchised some voters.

Friday, October 12, 2012 8:38:03 PMmarkust: There have been more than just 'a couple' of people involved with voter fraud, over 50 cases in Texas alone, Hundreds nationwide.

Now some sites will quibble about those cases and state that some of those defendants got probation or supervision, that they weren't 'convicted' but that doesn't change the fact that they did commit the crime.

Friday, October 12, 2012 8:32:25 PMThere is nothing in that vid that shows the DEM operators encouraging voter fraud. The woman in the first conversation went in twice & repeatedly tried to get the operator to become accomplice - no dice. 'yes we can do it' is a slogan. That woman had to be escorted out of the office gently. Can I take forms for my friends & family? Yes you may. How is that a voter fraud? B U L L S H I T

Friday, October 12, 2012 4:00:17 PM"Republicans are pushing for this because liberal groups like ACORN have been caught committing vote fraud."

A couple ACORN registers were caught committing registration fraud not voter fraud. There is a huge difference. Very few cases of voter fraud turn out to be actual voter fraud. A lot of that has to do with it being a Federal offense.

I notice you are silent on the multiple links here that point to an RNC recommended group changing the registration info of Democratic voters they registered. Now that is voter fraud because these people would not have been able to vote if this problem had not been caught. Where is the Republican freak out on this?

Like I said I am fine with Voter ID laws if they are implemented over a couple year period so that everyone has a chance to get ID's. Pushing them so fast causes disenfranchisement. You know this is the case but you are playing ignorant. At least I hope it is an act.

Friday, October 12, 2012 3:22:47 PMmarkust: ...the majority of people affected by this will be Democrats.

Older people, as a voting block, generally vote conservative. Plus, the democrats are well enough organized to drive and or bus people to the polls if need be. Since they do that, it wouldn't be hard for them to get State IDs for those same people.

Republicans are pushing for this because liberal groups like ACORN have been caught committing vote fraud.

If people loose trust in our election system they will just quit voting, thinking their vote doesn't count.

Friday, October 12, 2012 2:55:42 PM[quote">I'm still confused why you think people think this is about racism when it also affects students, the poor and the elderly[/quote"> I don't think many people believe this, but I have seen the argument presented: Bill Maher Does.

Personally, I think the whole race thing has really gotten out of hand. The President is black; how racist (as a collective) can we be? I get incredibly irritated with people who read racism into a situation. In most cases, it wasn't because of your race; it was because you were being an ass.

That being said, I enjoy listening to people with different opinions explain their positions. In this way, I find that I am usually better prepared during more meaningful conversations.