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some might remember me complaining about the lack of X1950Pro AGP (realto) support on the 8.41 driver series, making it segfault etc, which was ok, it wasn't a supported card. The 'crappy' thing was that the only driver that DID work was the 8.34.4 one, and only with a secret special trick at that.

I was getting corruptions on 2d surfaces (ff etc) and 3d didn't work or work highly corrupted (this actually even on 8.42 in ut2004). Setting my AGP-Gart from 128mb to 256 fixed that for the 8.34, and changing it to 512mb fixed it on the 8.42 driver. (the card is a 512mb model, i temp had a 256 model where coincidently i could go to/from 64mb -> 128 -> 256)

Back to now, I tried using the 8.42.3 driver and got horrible performance, I mentioned it in the big 'the baby is born' thread but that got quickly lost, with 1 comment wether I was having AIGLX/composite issues (i have both disabled). I can play et (not qw) at 20 - 90FPS but it's never smooth. It feels choppy, looks choppy and i got some minor texture corruption on the minimap and map.

So instead of mindlessly complaining, I put back my old old 9500Pro AGP thatI borrowed my brother (his own was being RMAed) and I tried that one out with 8.42.3

I now get what all the fuss is about. I get smooth 90FPS without a hiss in ET, it looks smooth, it feels smooth.

In WoW (wine -opengl) i got marginal performance on the X1950Pro, 5 - 10FPS where 'normal' for busy areas and i've seen anything from 3 fps to 60fps depending on the area. (small narrow buildings/hallways got me up, busy large area's where .. grinding to halt almost) but avg. would be i say anything between 10 - 25fps.

With the 9500 i'm gettin 25 - 100fps, with 100 more then the 25. Yeah, weird huh

It seems to me, there's an issue somewhere with the AGP thing still. Since it's the same system/settings, and only video card swapped, I can either be hardware, or driver related, not kernel etc, and the hardware works. (the card is fine in, *sigh* windos)

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I got the same error, and not-so-satisfying performance (a little better than 8.40.4)
don't know what's the meaning of that frickin error
and by the end of the week I can tell:
on gutsy 7.10 I couldn't get 3d acceleration (famous MESA crap)
and on PCLinuxOS 2007 8.42.3 is some kind of working; 3d acceleration, performance didn't leaped from 8.40.4 as they promised, when I log out PC hangs (reset baby!) and when I try to pick the screensaver tab on KDE (right click on desktop), the window closes itself.

there are slight speed improvements on X-Moto (now playable), Nexuiz, and in some games. on OpenArena I had to migrate to Gnome because when I try to change system settings in OpenArena on KDE, the thing crashes.
GL-117 has better performance(no more low-fps warnings!), but when I move the target with the mouse, the whole thing freezes for a second or more so It takes me a minutes just to start a game.
Miss my 9800 PRO

conclusion: as I said before ATI made their great products useless. go green!!

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I got the same error, and not-so-satisfying performance (a little better than 8.40.4)
don't know what's the meaning of that frickin error
and by the end of the week I can tell:
on gutsy 7.10 I couldn't get 3d acceleration (famous MESA crap)
and on PCLinuxOS 2007 8.42.3 is some kind of working; 3d acceleration, performance didn't leaped from 8.40.4 as they promised, when I log out PC hangs (reset baby!) and when I try to pick the screensaver tab on KDE (right click on desktop), the window closes itself.

there are slight speed improvements on X-Moto (now playable), Nexuiz, and in some games. on OpenArena I had to migrate to Gnome because when I try to change system settings in OpenArena on KDE, the thing crashes.
GL-117 has better performance(no more low-fps warnings!), but when I move the target with the mouse, the whole thing freezes for a second or more so It takes me a minutes just to start a game.
Miss my 9800 PRO

conclusion: as I said before ATI made their great products useless. go green!!

I had also corruption on screen, which are fixed now.
compiz has a problem with windows manager. If I use instead beryl, all is fine. I tested OpenGL Performance with Quake4... compare to 8.40.4 it's turbo bust!

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I've at least managed to sort the black/blank 3D. Setting AGP Aperture to 256MB or higher sorts it. I see my card gets detected as a 256MB card where its actually 512MB, I wonder if that's the problem?