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Once again religion has too much control over policies. We can send troops overseas to fight a war that is no more than a personal vendetta but if a 17 year old takes a picture of her self in her boy shorts it's a serious crime. I can kill a man and be out in 5 years on good behavior but if I were to rob a bank (touch the governments money) I'm facing a minimum of 20 to 30. Religion (fantasy) > morals I guess.

Also before people get on my *ss about that just because I choose not to accept any religion does not mean I'm a terrible person. Just because I stated my opinion doesn't mean I want you to agree with it. I wish for people to come up with their own opinions based on their own knowledge. Not because someone said something but rather because you took the time to actually do some reading and research.

Religion is stupid. That's a given. But, so is passing a bill passing some unreasonable law on regular citizens as well as a completely unmanageable system. If every person the bill covered were to do as the bill required, the amount of reports would be countless and completely unmanageable. Thus, to save America, if this bill is passed, the only hope is spam. Erroneous requests cannot be punished because you can be punished for negligence, so post every single instance of an offensive word or image...

Religion doesn't control government because religion in essence was created by the government during a time of rebellion. This concept is called mythology. JFK was pretty much assassinated for being a catholic and caused fear in certain individuals because a Catholic you are supposed to do as the Pope says...people feared this. Both religion and government fear each other but they still have a huge influence on decisions on both sides.

the banking and war industries use the government to control the people. religion is just one of the politicians' tools to distract people from realizing how little say we actually have. and anyone who thinks there is anything at all christian about our government, including its elected officials, understands nothing at all about christ or christianity. now back to your regularly scheduled funny.

What I heard was this applied to unprotected networks, like the public internet access found at libraries or maybe even a coffee shop or something. If it gets passed and the sh*t hits the fan, simply make sure your wireless network at home has a passkey that's 128bit WEP encrypted and you should be fine. I'm almost positive senate won't pass this. BTW, cpcpcp.ytmnd is exactly what they are talking about. If you saw a site like that at the library and it was caught by an employee, she would legally have to report it.

I like how nerds on the internet believe that they are independent thinkers. "No, no, the media doesn't tell me what to think." Then someone writes an exaggerated, fearmongering article about something the government and everyone believes it. Perhaps it would be better if half the internet kept their mouths shut and actually read the bill in question before jerking themselves off in a fit of angry rage. Some might find that the actual, non-demonized version might be somewhat sensible.

so every person who has made a stephanie site including meself is pretty much screwed. doesn't matter. the idea behind this bill is control more than apprehension. they know it's unmanageable they would never go for someone based on this solely it's more likely that they would use this law if they were gunning for you already and it just provides them easy ammo.

This has nothing to do with Religion dumbass, I hate it when poeple just attack sh*t to sound high and mighty whenever given the chance. Laws are set for a reason, and if you DON'T like it then learn more, get into your local government and do something about it. Instead of being some misinformed, punkass, lowlife, megalomanic, self-absorbed, self-righteous prick.

Bah. That guy says religion is stupid and it's a given. Totally unnecessary. Especially since it has nothing at all to do with the topic. Religion, fantasy? Pah. Where do these kids come from? Oh yeah, MTV.

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You're an obvious dumbass. You seem to love to spit out circumstantial nonsense. What if a drunk runs into your call and you kill him? DO you deserve life? F*ck no, you'll be charged with Manslaughter and serve less time. As for robbing a bank, its federally insured so YOU don't take the loss, dumbass. And any robbery with the mere mention of "Gun" automatically gets you 5 years. F*ckin tool.

DungionM, I couldn't agree more. This site had nothing to do with religion but the troubled users of ytmnd's anti-religion defense mechanisms engaged and they started bashing religion. I find it very intriguing how people do that. It bears the same exact signs as someone that is insecure about something. It's going to be very very interesting to see where our society is at when we're in our 50's.

Kiddy porn's always been illegal, politicians just love cranking up the fines on it - they never put any of these bills they pass into tangible use, they just do it to create an illusion of being "TOUGH ON CRIME" and "working hard to PROTECT AMERICA'S CHILDREN" because "CHILDREN are our TOP PRIORITY!" even if bills like this are meaningless and impossible to enforce.

Korf you bring up another point without even actually mentioning it. Laws cover who they want it to cover. When anyone of any race shoots up middle to upper class it's a big deal. When whiteboy A shoots blackguy (vice versa) B in the ghetto it is no longer a hate crime, it's just a statistic. F*cking human rights have gone out the window. We live in a world where a kid can get tazed for asking John Kerry a question. Last time I checked this country was built on standing up and asking questions.

This country was built on the Constitution, which is open to interpretation, unfortunately. If our constitution can be "interpreteted" to allow torture, slavery, wars without support from Congress, etc. then the only place to place blame is on the present people interpreting their "duty" however they damn please.

Also, this is not a law that is intended to target any specific person, necessarily. It's like the speed limits on California freeways: Every single car on the road at some point is speeding along with everyone next to them because the law is unreasonable, but the cops can pull people over at will and enforce their law "to save lives". This is the same thing here... a child in a "lascivious pose", come on. Who is going to a.) think twice about what a lascivious pose is and b.) figure out where to report it.

You're talking out of your ass. When anyone shoots anyone the news picks what stories to tell. It doesnt matter what race they are, just what rating they bring in. Please learn your facts before you state your opinion.

So like if I see an image accidently and then go like wtf now I have to report this crap? Then once I report it they will be like wtf were you doing looking at this picture? I'll say it was an accident and tell them if it wasn't I wouldn't have reported. Then they'll send feds to canvas my hardrive and they won't find any pedo porn but they'll find illegal games and music and then I get screwed by lawsuits from those people and will lose all of my money. Then when I become a homeless person I'll have to...

fight for scraps of food so I'll get in shape so I can fight other bums for food and booze. At that point I will have gone a bit crazy and will accidently attack a shabby looking dude with a cheeseburger because I thought he was a bum and those bum fighting rules apply but he wouldn't be a bum and I'll go to prison for assault. At this point I'll be fed but I'll have to fend off prison f*gs and my bum fighting skills might not be enough so I'll have to learn even more advanced fighting techniques to defend

my anus. I'll probably start to fit in but then some dude probably won't leave me alone and I'll have to shank him and hopefully I will get away with it. Once I leave the prison having earned the nickname "The Professor", I won't know how to integrate back into society and will fall into a life of crime with some contacts I got introduced to in prison. I'll end up probably doing hits or gun running for some criminal organization and might settle into a life of crime. A rival crime organization might try to

take us down though and I will run if I see that the organization is going to fall because I will have made plenty of enemies at the point and will need to run. I'll flee the country with what little money I could gather together without taking notice and will go to Europe. Unfortunately because of our government the money will have the worth of toilet paper and I will have to get a crappy low paying job where a bunch of Euro trash call me a "yank". Eventually I'll hit one of those bastards and then I'll go

to a European prison until they realize my passport is fake and then they'll deport me to the US where I will be charged for faking identification and for being a hitman and gun runner. I'll make a deal that I'll rat on the rival crime organization as long as I am set free and put under witness protection. However the day before the trial I'll go to an ice cream stand to get crunch bar and the dude who is giving me the ice cream will actually be a hitman and he will shoot me and kill me because my witness

protection dude had to take a piss (probably was bribed). Then I'll be dead all because of this retarded law where I wasn't actually guilty of looking at freaking pedo porn! But then it will turn out that I had piece of metal under my shirt like in Back to the Future III or that Clint Eastwood Movie. Then I will probably punch Biff a bunch of times until he gets covered in manure. He will probably be like, "Manure, I Hate Manure," but in reality he loves it. Biff will later join Hare Krishna after reading a

pamphlet given to him at the Denver International Airport. After eating my Crunch Bar, which is delicious, I will probably move back in with my parents. My dad will be retired and my mother has a heart condition. Because of my criminal record, I will probably only be able to get minimum wage jobs after renouncing my life of crime. One day I will be working at McDonalds and my boss will be riding me all day to make Happy Meals faster, and I will fashion a shiv out of a plastic knife just like in prison and

jab her in the eye. We will be the only two people working that night, as it is 3 AM, i stuff her body in the Freezer and catch a greyhound bus to Mexico. In the scenic location of Ciudad Juárez, I will probably get really drunk and spend the last of my savings and money i stole from Mcdonalds on cheap aging Mexican hookers. These will truly be the happiest days of my life

thanks for the heads up. from a political standpoint, however, the House passing a bill doesn't mean sh*t. they pass bills like a crack addict working through an ounce of rock, I wouldn't worry about this actually getting signed into law...

to a European prison until they realize my passport is fake and then they'll deport me to the US where I will be charged for faking identification and for being a hitman and gun runner. I'll make a deal that I'll rat on the rival crime organization as long as I am set free and put under witness protection. However the day before the trial I'll go to an ice cream stand to get crunch bar and the dude who is giving me the ice cream will actually be a hitman and he will shoot me and kill me because my witness

to a European prison until they realize my passport is fake and then they'll deport me to the US where I will be charged for faking identification and for being a hitman and gun runner. I'll make a deal that I'll rat on the rival crime organization as long as I am set free and put under witness protection. However the day before the trial I'll go to an ice cream stand to get crunch bar and the dude who is giving me the ice cream will actually be a hitman and he will shoot me and kill me because my witness

protection dude had to take a piss (probably was bribed). Then I'll be dead all because of this retarded law where I wasn't actually guilty of looking at freaking pedo porn! But then it will turn out that I had piece of metal under my shirt like in Back to the Future III or that Clint Eastwood Movie. Then I will probably punch Biff a bunch of times until he gets covered in manure. He will probably be like, "Manure, I Hate Manure," but in reality he loves it. Biff will later join Hare Krishna after reading a

LOL, government having nothing to do trying to find ways to boss people around.
LOL, all pictures of facebook and myspace=30k fine.
Now theres a line between whats ok and child porn, thats true, but overkill is not the solution.

RANT: This won't accomplish a damn thing. True, the internet is an irredeemably evil, obscene, and hateful form of media, but kids learn 90% of their obscene thoughts from their f*cking parents, and NOT the internet. What's next? Should we fine a mother for breastfeeding simply because she's showing an underaged individual her breasts? with this type of overprotective mentality, I could actually see that happening in the near future. Kids are gonna see tits eventually, and there is no stopping this.

Remember when they ruled napster as illegal, and anyone pirating music was immediately busted and fined? They're going to enforce this like they enforce every other internet law there is; every now and then they bust someone relatively innocent and make sure it gets media exposure.

There isn't much variance in innocence one someone passes the threshold of deliberately posting underage pornography, but people being convicted for things like fully clothed people in sultry poses or even a site owner unknowingly hosting something is the equivalent of the 12 year old girl on the news busted for downloading songs. But this site was pacarded so f*ck it and 5.

yeah its all teleco's lobbying wing's objective to wipe out free public wifi. that's it. i doubt it will be enforced at all, or we'll undoubtedly get a major supreme court ruling on it, probably saying that its a gross invasion of civil liberty and privacy.

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Basically all this does is increase the penalty for an already existing law. Try reading the actual bill rather than what some dipsh*t from an opinion blog feeds you.
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c1106UFKi3::

f) Protection of Privacy- Nothing in this section shall be construed to require an electronic communication service provider or a remote computing service provider to--
`(1) monitor any user, subscriber, or customer of that provider;
`(2) monitor the content of any communication of any person described in paragraph (1); or
`(3) affirmatively seek facts or circumstances described in subsection (a)(2).

Also. I don't get where you are finding that depictions such as Hentai etc will be considered covered under this. The bill covers child pornography only. The Supreme Court several years ago ruled that animations depicting underage sex were not considered child pornography and were protected expression. So not sure where anyone is getting this idea.

Religion is the internets magik word, the second you say it, 5 people have already posted their personal opinion before you can refresh to see your comment.
Saying the word religion in a topic has a 99.9% chance of derailing the whole discussion in any forum.
Its the equivalent of saying the word N*gga as a white guy in the ghetto, before you can finish saying it you have 5 black guys behind you ready to beat and shoot you in the face.

This bill wont do jack sh*t, it simply adds "stiffer" fines as a feel good measure to an existing law. The law is completely inneffective and useless, completely unusable and simply a means of convincing 'the masses' "hey, look voters, we're doing a great job protecting kids" even though it's all in vain.

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