At least theEnglish's evaluations are remembered. That's not a shot, its a good thing.

I didn't see the game, but it won't surprise me if he struggles initially. I think he'd be fine with a more established pro coach. At least intially thatll hurt him. Eventually he'll surpass his athletic ability, ala a Penninington, Krieg, Kitna, Fiedler, etc.

CALIHAWK1 wrote:Actually you and I have gone roumd and round on him since his junior year. Looking bad (in garbage time) and being behind Foles (who you trashed) on the depth chart are two different things.

I don't remember going round and round with anyone on Barkley. I remember liking him a ton, and still do. If he fails in the NFL then I'll lose zero sleep.

pehawk wrote:At least theEnglish's evaluations are remembered. That's not a shot, its a good thing.

I didn't see the game, but it won't surprise me if he struggles initially. I think he'd be fine with a more established pro coach. At least intially thatll hurt him. Eventually he'll surpass his athletic ability, ala a Penninington, Krieg, Kitna, Fiedler, etc.

That was an odd team for him.

Yeah, but Vick and Foles looked really good in the game. Philly is going to put up points, to bad their d is going to give up a bunch also.

pehawk wrote:At least theEnglish's evaluations are remembered. That's not a shot, its a good thing.

I didn't see the game, but it won't surprise me if he struggles initially. I think he'd be fine with a more established pro coach. At least intially thatll hurt him. Eventually he'll surpass his athletic ability, ala a Penninington, Krieg, Kitna, Fiedler, etc.

That was an odd team for him.

Yeah, but Vick and Foles looked really good in the game. Philly is going to put up points, to bad their d is going to give up a bunch also.

Look at it this way; how would Kitna do in Chip's system? Pennington? Matt Flynn?

I disagree with kearly. While there's been regime changes in Philly, I'm sure the thought of "investing" in QB's, like short term bonds, is the motive. It's what Andy and friends did; convert 2-5th round QB's into 1st, 2nd's, CB's, anything.

pehawk wrote:Look at it this way; how would Kitna do in Chip's system? Pennington? Matt Flynn?

I disagree with kearly. While there's been regime changes in Philly, I'm sure the thought of "investing" in QB's, like short term bonds, is the motive. It's what Andy and friends did; convert 2-5th round QB's into 1st, 2nd's, CB's, anything.

All we know from these first preseason games is tjack is the ultimate back up and barkley should jump off a cliff. These games have no game planning at all, with a bunch of random players mashed together. According to the average .net poster rational Whitehurst should be a HOF QB.

cockeyhawk wrote:All we know from these first preseason games is tjack is the ultimate back up and barkley should jump off a cliff. These games have no game planning at all, with a bunch of random players mashed together. According to the average .net poster rational Whitehurst should be a HOF QB.

With his 0 TD's and 2 INT's right? According to Niner's fans, Kaep is the greatest QB ever for leading a "perfect drive" against an elite defense on its first drive. And the only thing that matters is the 1st team.

cockeyhawk wrote:All we know from these first preseason games is tjack is the ultimate back up and barkley should jump off a cliff. These games have no game planning at all, with a bunch of random players mashed together. According to the average .net poster rational Whitehurst should be a HOF QB.