What a great last 24 hours eh. Your beloved LIEDer gets smacked down for her stupidity in regards to planet Mercury going missing in the heavens above. Then we welcome aboard to our glorious debunker thread a genuine fenceSITTER and one who does not have to continually lie and pretend to be as you have done for ages now, Melfy. And the third part of the current trifecta of debunker victories is just about to be realised.....500 GLP pages.

Remember, Melfy, at making predictions. You stated that our glorious debunker thread would never reach 500 pages.

and lovin it!!

Life Is But A Dream!!Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."------------------------------------Disclaimer:

DON'T​ BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!!

I feel like you do this, perhaps, partly for kicks and to raise ire: but I feel you go too far, here. I believe you owe JWD an apology.

Because he keeps coming back and challenging the debunkers. Funny too.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 949546

What about Debunkers that continue to challenge Nancy? Do you appreciate them similarly? Why not?

Screen Memories...

Quoting: Zetamax

ZM -- your quote doesn't seem to support your claim: Supposed visitations by aliens does not equate to looking for the constellations to be in the right place, and it would indicate the aliens were merely controlling the minds of every inhabitant of Earth, which I would argue goes against their supposed non-interference directives. And, again, if you are looking at 'Screen Memories' to be the explanation, then it should be perfect. There should be no anomalies whatsoever, yet Nancy claims there are on a near-daily basis. If the minds are being manipulated, then so is choice and free will.

Therefore, your claim is without merit, and unprovable. However, we CAN show the Earth is not halted by the proper positions of the stars. Therefore, Nancy is wrong.

Do you have any PHYSICAL or DIRECT EVIDENCE that the Earth is halted in orbit? If not, why do you believe it is? Simply on Nancy's say-so?

Zetatalk has never been successfully debunked. If it had been, I wouldn't be a FENCE SITTER!!

I am on the fence regarding scientific evidence as well - otherwise, I wouldn't be a fence sitter either ...

Quoting: Zetamax

Splendid.

Please SPECIFICALLY point out what evidence would "successfully debunk" Zetatalk for you (your goalposts, as it were) and would, therefore, get you off the fence. If there is none, your phrase above is meaningless and disingenuous.

I thought Nancy preaches free will and choice. If this is so then how can there be any "traitors" in this situation. If one believes her and then for whatever reason no longer believes her, especially if it is due to that person finding something or seeing something that totally changes his mind and he wasn't forced into it then ESPECIALLY he can't be called a traitor. He didn't betray anyone or anything, except you apparently.

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

I went for a wander down memory lane and popped in at 400, 300, 200 and 100and I found this little gem from our favourite bansock...(he just seems to love `banning' people and `closing' threads- shame it's only in his rapidly unraveling sockmind that he could do it)

Thought I'd record it here for all to see before he tries to go in and edit it, and also to remind him (and us- for laughters sake) just how much of a `fence shitter' he is...

Because anyone who actually `sitting on the fence' and has doubts about Zetababbles website's accuracy would start a thread called

This thread is LONG overdue. Please use it to express your appreciation for all the hard work and sacrifice that Nancy Lieder and her friends and fans have endured in order to bring the incredibly important and profound message of the Zetas to mankind. Feel free as well to share how Nancy and the Zeta's messages have changed your life for the BETTER. Nancy works hard as evidenced by her marathon attendance and contributions to the SOHO thread New Years day. She was a voice of reason and deliberation, and did more to steer the thread toward a "conservative" understanding than anyone else. With nearly 4000 pages of Zetatalk.com, Troubled Times, her Newsletter and now Videos, few people I know work as hard as Nancy - and NONE for NO PAY and a MOUNTAIN of abuse.

So in response to this generous outpouring, I want to be the first in this dedicated thread to say:

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

You are correct, Op. Many people have noticed that during the past week something is wrong with our lean, and it is not the tinsy bit NASA or whomever is claiming the Earth's tilt or rotation has changed. We are leaning somewhat to the left, as one looks toward the Sun from the northern hemisphere during the day. Leaning, I might add AWAY from Nibiru, ala Planet X.

Polaris Az 358 53 23 Alt 53 39 37

Alderamin Az 346 23 45Alt 27 58 44

That's a 12 degree displacement Az wise, and a 26 degree Altitute wise. Those on the payroll who have the assignment of claiming all is normal will scream otherwise, and tell you that you are incompetent. Let them rot in hell where they deserve to go. YOU believe your own eyes. This, from LA, just recently. You are not alone!

Los AngelesMarch 4I always use Orion as center. In LA tonight it shifted horizontally to right of center from last night. Way out of position from last night. Usually stars rise in east set in west, tonight they seem to be going from south to north (a N Pole lean to the left at night)

I waded back into GLP with another questions about eccentricity of orbits. There was a comment on one of the many GLP threads about what the heck is that coming in from the right on COR2 on Stereo Ahead, about how HIGH the object was above the Sun. If the Zetas are hinting that things will not be so normal in appearance, simulated by benign aliens, etc, then I want to know if this time has started! Here's what I posted. Amid all the filth heaved my way, there may be an intelligent answer.

hint: you're not that important, brainiac! "your questions" are never worth answering.

Still haven't seen that life-changing invention The CommonHater ... hmmmm, wonder what happened to it? (((shaking head))))

Quoting: User # 78/68

The only party claiming some "life-changing invention" is you, but then you are a known LYING SACK OF RANCID PARROT DROPPINGS, and a PAID SHILL for a FAILED CULT run by a HATE FILLED, DELUSIONAL, SENILE OLD WOMAN.

So, show where anyone but you mentions life changing invention.

Oh right, you can't, it is just another LIE you made up.

Your fear is growing, luser, your lies are growing, your cult, on the other hand, has failed.

hint: you're not that important, brainiac! "your questions" are never worth answering.

Quoting: User # 78/68

Liar. Neither of you are capable of answering his questions.

Still haven't seen that life-changing invention The CommonHater ... hmmmm, wonder what happened to it? (((shaking head))))

Quoting: User # 78/58

Still haven't seen you prove any of your claims. Hmmm, wonder when that will ever happen? (shaking head). Oh, and are you going to stand by your word and admit Nancy is wrong when "Planet X" fails to show up before 2012? Considering you're Canadian and Free Store has already shown us how much one's Canadian Word is worth, I suspect you'll just continue shilling as you have been.

This latest thread offering from The LIEDer is very disturbing indeed......that is if you are one of her loyal followers.

Nancy appears to be "cracking" bigtime under the strain of continual failure. Seriously I am not surprised to see Ms LIEDer behaving in this increasingly strange way. 15 odd years of pushing a failed doomsday cult with no results of success was eventually going to take its toll. Add to this the increasing pressure on Ms LIEDer due to the glorious success of our wonderful debunker thread and its position on GLP as a Top 20 Most Popular Thread and the woman was bound to crack sooner or later.

It was bizarre the way Nancy shrieked her way through this latest VENUS OUT OF PLACE routine, and in the end said, what, nevermind?? Or like Astronut said: "I MEANT to do that!" Just when you think she can't loose it anymore, she DOES!