Have you ever wondered how to pet a cat? You're in luck because Renee recently learned the first lesson of cat petting: Don't rub their eyes for them (they don't like that). She also shares the best negotiation tactic for getting a cat: guilt. That's right, a 13-year-old girl wore down her father's steadfast objections to a family cat with what she has dubbed a "Wall of Sorrow."

Cuteness Pawdcast producer and cat expert, Alexis Preston, takes the hot seat to tell us all about her dog-like cats, Clem and Maud. Alexis calls them "gateway cats" because they have the perfect disposition to convert dog people into cat people. And she's right; both Renee and Allegra were won over immediately. I mean, look at these buddies! Who wouldn't be?

If you like what you're listening to, check out our episode on the opulent lives of pets, featuring writer and comedian Matt Moore who shares his slightly troubling passion for pugs — an obsession with an origin story that you need to hear to believe. Trust us; it's weird, and Matt Moore is delightful.

This concludes the final episode of the Cuteness Pawdcast. A huge shout out to you, the listener. You're the best! Thank you for streaming the podcast and remember: pet people are the best people!