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well I worked late last night got home around 9 i think?
it was also bout 35*.

so i got up early, about 45* and raining hard but WTF?
I went up to the hilltop 16.3 miles in exactly one hour dried off a little and had a grilled chicken breast and then back in less than 1 hour .
average speed 16.9 mph.
I feel great not tired at all and never really breathed hard!
I am not sore anywhere YET!
I am off tomorrow and it is supposed to be dry and sunny.
I will do it again in the morning without the sleet and rain and get back to you!
I dont have a pump, tool kit, water bottle, but bag, helment, gloves, cycling shoes, goggles etccc.
hands were pretty cold going back down the hill maybe 40-50 mph not sure??
the support I am getting from all my socalled buddies telling me i am too fat to ride a bike is really inspiring!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for the support Doug!
more than I am getting in Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go Fronk.....glad to hear it.......we all need to step up the exercise at this stage in our life....use it or lose it.....
You'll get bored with the road soon and start looking for skinnies on trails soon buddy.....

i hope if i ride every day i will lose a few lbs and then I look forward to the skinnies~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart

Way to go Fronk.....glad to hear it.......we all need to step up the exercise at this stage in our life....use it or lose it.....
You'll get bored with the road soon and start looking for skinnies on trails soon buddy.....

i hope if i ride every day i will lose a few lbs and then I look forward to the skinnies~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Originally Posted by Doug Lockhart

Way to go Fronk.....glad to hear it.......we all need to step up the exercise at this stage in our life....use it or lose it.....
You'll get bored with the road soon and start looking for skinnies on trails soon buddy.....

'Morning Bret and everyone. Ray, no choice.. Brother in law's getting married and it'd be kinda dumb to fly overseas just for a weekend. Finally got my high school transcripts so I can apply for 787. Fingers crossed

Make sure you have the required high school courses as well. I know a few guys Ive been talking to have been saying that they wont look at people without them. You can get them through ILC. Just bang them out over a few weekends. ILC courses are actually recognized Ontario high school credits.

If Im not mistaken youve got a couple miles more on the odometer than I do, so this might be jibberish. I was in grade 10 when they did away with grade 13 and ran the final year as some abbreviation. Basically it says you need any grade 12 English and math (at any skill level). But you do need an advanced chem and physics (these became electives after grade 10 and were only offered at the college and up level-considering the basic level for the compulsary courses started at "everyday life" aka. kids who dont care and will work at McDs the rest of their lives).

You might already have the prerequisites and this post might not help at all, but, Im hearing that a lot of guys are getting turned down by 787 because they dont have the high school courses they need. Im lucky I got in when I did though-I was the only guy in my grade 12 chem class. 17 year old me can justify the mark I got LOL.

Also was your pre-trade course a 2 year one? Thats another big thing Im hearing is stopping a lot of potential applicants. However, I think its more to keep the Himark guys out.

Make sure you have the required high school courses as well. I know a few guys Ive been talking to have been saying that they wont look at people without them. You can get them through ILC. Just bang them out over a few weekends. ILC courses are actually recognized Ontario high school credits.

If Im not mistaken youve got a couple miles more on the odometer than I do, so this might be jibberish. I was in grade 10 when they did away with grade 13 and ran the final year as some abbreviation. Basically it says you need any grade 12 English and math (at any skill level). But you do need an advanced chem and physics (these became electives after grade 10 and were only offered at the college and up level-considering the basic level for the compulsary courses started at "everyday life" aka. kids who dont care and will work at McDs the rest of their lives).

You might already have the prerequisites and this post might not help at all, but, Im hearing that a lot of guys are getting turned down by 787 because they dont have the high school courses they need. Im lucky I got in when I did though-I was the only guy in my grade 12 chem class. 17 year old me can justify the mark I got LOL.

Also was your pre-trade course a 2 year one? Thats another big thing Im hearing is stopping a lot of potential applicants. However, I think its more to keep the Himark guys out.

Don't matter to you guys anyway.....all your princess, whiney, snivelly, self absorbed teachers are gonna continue to throw their grade school temper tantrums and "NOT TEACH" 'cause they haven't had their bums wiped enough times/day !!!!
God, I can't believe that they call themselves 'professionals' when not only do they only work \|/800hrs/yr but they don't bring ANY tools to the job AND they have NEVER had to get a parent to 'sign off' on their work.
That province'll be bankrupt by spring.......too much Obamanomics goin' on there MR and Ray....

Don't matter to you guys anyway.....all your princess, whiney, snivelly, self absorbed teachers are gonna continue to throw their grade school temper tantrums and "NOT TEACH" 'cause they haven't had their bums wiped enough times/day !!!!
God, I can't believe that they call themselves 'professionals' when not only do they only work \|/800hrs/yr but they don't bring ANY tools to the job AND they have NEVER had to get a parent to 'sign off' on their work.
That province'll be bankrupt by spring.......too much Obamanomics goin' on there MR and Ray....

I hear ya Doug. And the teachers say they are doing for the kids too, which I think is a load of pure b/s! The ones who are going to suffer the worst is the grade 8's and grade 12's who should be getting ready for their next level of education. At this rate, those kids will be lucky if they can find a summer school spot to make up any classes that they will fail because of all the days the teachers walked out.

A local radio show here had a day where they were talking about this in the morning. They were getting their usual audience of young tradesmen (its an FM new rock channel) saying the exact same thing-suck it up buttercup. Then they had teachers calling in saying the usual "were doing this for the kids, we dont want to do this, the Ontario Government is making us do this." This was usually followed with "we have been ordered by our Union not to doing anything extracurricular or hold parent teacher meetings outside the usual hours because we will be fired if we do."

Then a teacher who actually had a set called in. Hes a young guy who pretty much said the ones behind this are the old farts with only a couple years left before they retire. They just want more money so they can buy their new Benz (because here in Ontario if you dont have a Benz, Audi, or BMW at the very least you are nothing but scum and should worship the ground those people walk on. And only drive in the truck lanes because your car will not do 150 in the far left lane).

Sad thing is it isnt just the teachers. Its everyone here. Spending beyond their means. Everyone needs a high end car. Developers pillaging the land and putting in seas of town homes which they will sell anyone. This all sounds really familiar. I think a first world country actually went into a major economic downturn because of it. Ah well.

Me and the girlfriend have talked about heading out to her home province where the things I call mountains are actually mow hills. Then again when you were born and raised in a concrete jungle, I guess the land forms around Kelowna can be quite intimidating. You wouldnt happen to need a rooftop guy in a few years would you. LOL.

I hear ya Doug. And the teachers say they are doing for the kids too, which I think is a load of pure b/s! The ones who are going to suffer the worst is the grade 8's and grade 12's who should be getting ready for their next level of education. At this rate, those kids will be lucky if they can find a summer school spot to make up any classes that they will fail because of all the days the teachers walked out.

A local radio show here had a day where they were talking about this in the morning. They were getting their usual audience of young tradesmen (its an FM new rock channel) saying the exact same thing-suck it up buttercup. Then they had teachers calling in saying the usual "were doing this for the kids, we dont want to do this, the Ontario Government is making us do this." This was usually followed with "we have been ordered by our Union not to doing anything extracurricular or hold parent teacher meetings outside the usual hours because we will be fired if we do."

Then a teacher who actually had a set called in. Hes a young guy who pretty much said the ones behind this are the old farts with only a couple years left before they retire. They just want more money so they can buy their new Benz (because here in Ontario if you dont have a Benz, Audi, or BMW at the very least you are nothing but scum and should worship the ground those people walk on. And only drive in the truck lanes because your car will not do 150 in the far left lane).

Sad thing is it isnt just the teachers. Its everyone here. Spending beyond their means. Everyone needs a high end car. Developers pillaging the land and putting in seas of town homes which they will sell anyone. This all sounds really familiar. I think a first world country actually went into a major economic downturn because of it. Ah well.

Me and the girlfriend have talked about heading out to her home province where the things I call mountains are actually mow hills. Then again when you were born and raised in a concrete jungle, I guess the land forms around Kelowna can be quite intimidating. You wouldnt happen to need a rooftop guy in a few years would you. LOL.

Hey Ray,
You are right on the money there buddy.
"We are doing TO, er, I mean for your kids" They are without a doubt the worst self indulgent group of people that live on the planet WAY OUT OF reality. They think they are the only group that has any worth on the planet and that everyone else are beneath them and uneducated, like their students.
Have you ever worked for any.....? Wow, they work in an industry where they refuse to give FSA exams (so that parents [their bosses] and the administration have a baseline) to assess their level of competency and then when you work for them they pick EVERYTHING to death and then short you on the pay.....because you forgot to take your shoes off once and likely got pine needles on the floor. They are a complete joke and the beauty of it is they will eventually 'kill their HUGE pension funds' as the pigs at the trough ruin it for the latter...it'll be justice Ray, but it will be up to you and my daughters to tell them to go $@!^ yourself for a government bailout.....you over ate at the pig's trough at the front of your career you need to even the balance sheet.