Vikings offensive strength is our Defensive weakness. I am extremely curious about what we are going to do to even try to contain Percy Harvin and Adrian Peterson because those two are more than enough to completely tear apart the defense I saw today. Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner will be almost useless in coverage because the rest of the passes will be going to the Tight ends. #4 Offense or not, what I saw today was truly embarrassing for the defense. Christian Ponder is not as crappy of a quarterback as people are making him out to be, especially with our lack of pass rush. I have a bad feeling that we are going to have to score more than 24 points to win.

I just don't agree that the Vikes will be tough. We'll be at home after a rough 0-2 road trip, looking to recover and hit someone hard in the face. The Viking's D is not very good, and their offense is beatable. Ponder is not as good as you think. He makes poor decisions and leans heavily on a still fumble-prone Peterson to open things up for him. We'll win big. I promise.

Football is not a matter of life and death. It's much more important than that. ~ Bill Shankley

Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

the ditch wrote:Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

the ditch wrote:Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

We haven't taken away short routes all year.

Yeah...this team is just head scratching sometimes but that's why I'm expecting them to come out and put the hurt on the Vikings because they always manage to surprise me.

Its the NFL every team can beat you having said that I feel Seattle can beat Minny at home. I truly believe some of the the issues on 3rd and long is a lack of pass rush. This gets better at home with pass rush getting better at home. I'm just not concerned with the Vikes after seeing what Tampa did to them running it. Seattle is getting better offensively but ran the ball only 19 times today. That should not not happen need to be more balanced than that and play action will get even better.

the ditch wrote:Ponder is not a good quarterback, his yards are misleading. He currently holds one of the worst yards per attempt in the league, his 6.65 YPA puts him 26th. He also has thrown 171 of his 262 attempts below 9 yards ahead of the line of scrimmage. He is one of the worst deep ball throwers in the league with his deep ball pass accuracy percentage of 33%, there's only 3 quarterbacks with a worse accuracy percentage. PFF claims that there are only 2 quarterbacks who are worse passers than Ponder.

He makes his plays throwing the ball short and the receivers are getting the yards, even then he can mess that up, if we take away the short routes and make him throw long we will have a good chance of getting turnovers.

The Vikings defense is much better than the crappy Detroit lions defense we faced today. I have no idea where people are getting the idea that we will win comfortably. I never said Ponder was an elite QB, but I think he is a pretty damn good game manager and will be happy to do dinks and dunks all day if we give it to him.

Ponder can be an efficient QB when he gets in a rhythm, but he can also be counted on for a few mind-blowingly dumb decisions per game that our defense should be able to capitalize on. Playing at home and getting Jason Jones (and maybe Walter Thurmond) back in the lineup will help our pass rush and make Ponder uncomfortable. He's nowhere near Brady/Stafford's ability to piece together repeated long drives.

Largent80 wrote:We were on the way to crushing Detroit yesterday up 17-7. Then the road defense showed up in the form of zone, which promptly gave up that rainbow TD.

That defense is nowhere near the Clink.

Passing attack is starting to gel.

We be crushin' them.

I hope you're right, but I'm not seeing it the same way. We struggle against the small, fast-twitch receivers and Harvin might be the most dangerous. I think Ponder will have a rough time with our crowd though.

I also have the feeling we are going to crush Minnesota. Ponder is playing scared and a trip to Seattle is not a cure for that. Minnesota's D has also been shredded by the run the last two weeks. Bottom line is we arent the same team at home as we are on the road.

"Thus the "nagging" comment. They are bound to come up with an answer eventually..."

One would hope, but I haven't seen evidence of that yet. It's the same things beating us, to some degreee.

We've seen progression on the offensive side. We've seen regression on the defensive side. Our road defense was good in AZ, good in CAR, decent in STL. Then we got beat by the run in SF, which is supposed to be our strongest point. Then, our vaunted secondary gets shredded on the road in Detroit, when they've struggled against everyone but TEN all year, and our pass rush is non existent.

That's why people are on this board wanting to see a complete game. In the games our defense has dominated, our offense has given away by turnovers and bone headed penalties. Yesterday, our offense did enough to win, but our defense gave it away.

I gotta admit, the Vikes are my 2nd team, due to some good friends that are die-hards. Ponder can get hot, but typically is a Chad Pennington type. I'm afraid of Adrian. Bobby Wagner has some holes to fill, and he'd better do it better than he did against SF. I think Marshawn goes off this week. 150+. Seahawks 20-17.

"So between my friends and I we have been at every home game to date this year, and we have all been plotting the offensive plays called. " ------Anthony!

I think its crazy to act like this game is an easy win. Either the defense, offense, or both could pull one of their disappearing acts we have been seeing all year. Peterson will probably be able to run it up the gut pretty effectively, and you have to think Harvin will be able to get open across the middle. The Vikes have a good defense too. The Hawks are a decent team that can win at home, but they are not good enough to say that any game is a sure win.