What is Cancer? What causes it? Is it curable?

Uranium is plentiful in our soil. If you are a gardener, I believe you have a higher risk of getting cancer than smoking.

Actually, uranium is very rarely found in soil. The abundance of Uranium (as U-235) in the earth's crust is only 2.7 milligrams per kilogram.
Aluminum, for example has an abundance of 30,000 times as much. Because it is found primarily in sedementary rock, it is seldom found at the surface.
Of much more significance is the radon gas emitted by uranium oxide ores.

It could be curable, but our method now is just nuking the entire building to get some bad guys out and hoping the good guys out weight the damage
done to the build and hopefully rebuild it.

So what you say is nuke the body with chemo radiation to kill one cancer and create another cancer while at the same time seeking more effective ways
of ridding cancer? Supporting big pharma I don't get you.

Actually, thats a good anology. The treatment for "cancer" kills all living things. Sure they try to "target" the tumor but really what
they are doing with their toxins is killing you to the point of dying and then relenting, hoping that "treatment" kills the cancer but leaves you
just barely alive to heal. Its a science of toxicity to fight a revolution of the body against itself. Horrific from any perspective.

Personally, I wonder how I am not dead of it many moons ago. I smoked tobacco and other nasties most of my life. I bathed in trichloroflouro computer
degreaser for years in the industry. I have lived under bridges, dove in dumpsters and eaten a poor diet, not always by choice.

(quickly makes distinction this is not a boast of pride)

So tell me... why do some get cancer and die so quickly so young and deserving of a chance at life?

I would reserve an opinion on whether or not it can cure cancer. Obviously if you take vitamin C hoping it would cure your cancer than yes I will
agree with you completly. However some cancers are caused by cells not recieving the kill signal and start growing as tumors and I believe that cells
in a acidic enviornment find it hard to get that signal to die. If you can get the blood ph back to an alkaline state the cells might along with vit C
may start dying off and removing the cancer altogether.

And heres an scientific abstract of VIt C as a cure for some cancers.Link

Actually the link you provided, according to their methods, its In vitro... they did it outside the body.. it will not exactly work like that inside
the body.

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Yes but taking normal Vit C orally the body only absorbs a small amount of Vit C. For Vit C to be effective you have to make the body be able to
absorb more Vit C. Lipsomal Vit C gives a high degree of absorbtion

Cancer,..............
What if cancer was nothing more than a figment or a manipulation of your imagination? What if been simply told you have cancer is the catalyst? What
if the symptoms are nothing more than the effects of the treatments, what if, what if what if,. Yeah a lot of them but why? What is the source or the
reason?

Well, The Cancer Act of 1939 prohibits anyone disclosing known cures, ( or is that just my interpritation)
Who benefits financially because of cancer? The Pharma companies.
How do they profit?
Because the medication they give may infact be making everything worse, worsening your symptoms perhaps or one cancelling out the other.

Same goes for dentists which i believe are part of the neurological illnesses via mercury poisoning. How many of you have went to the dentist for a
check up and required fillings when you believed you had no problems beforehand? Did the dentist insist on fillings or xrays?
Mercury.

I will share more if asked but hey its my opinion.
Its also my opinion that most of the living things on Earth require sunlight,..........yet we as a species are told to cover up or plaster ourselves
with sunscreens.
My belief is that sunlight increases our immune system and that we are designed in such a way that our DNA naturally repairs us all but what we
consume or apply may indeed be causing the problems. Dig deep enough and it all boils down to money.

I studied it for five years and it seems through that said study that a few main virus's are a contributor to the cause of this disease above. Stress
is also a leading cause of illness and disease.

We have cancerous cells and or harmful cells within our bodies, however our bodies are constantly battling for us day in and day out. When our bodies
immune systems are low fighting virus's or stress, sometimes the cancerous cell can get by the fighter cells and grow enough to be cancerous and
mature. Once they are mature they have a mind of their own and run the show.

Even with radiation, the matured cancer cell/cells are able to play hide and seek elsewhere in the body.

Chemotherapy also harms the bodies fighters and is not a valuable cure either.

Healthy diet and meditation is awesome for helping our bodies fight. As we age, its easier for the harmful cells to get by the fighters so as we age
its even more crucial we try and take care of our immune system.

I would have went into details about it being using as a energy source for the cell but it was not my main point.

The point i was arguing is that it cures HIV and Cancer like many like to spout, which it does not, i could say the same thing about normal water.
That it helps with curing Cancer.

Vitamin C does not directly do anything to HIV virus or Cancer cell, there for saying Vitamin C cures HIV and Cancer is a incorrect information.

I have nothing against Vitamin C, it me its just another chemical structure. Because i criticize such things does not mean im automatically a pro "big
pharma", whatever that scary word is.

I really take exception to your post. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. You really should read the medical data and get educated
before you post your GARBAGE!

FACT: High Dose Vitamin C KILLS Cancer Cells

I have tons of medical studies to PROVE it, but I'll give you this one:

Given the new knowledge of the clinical pharmacology profile of parenteral ascorbate, the next steps were to determine whether and how
pharmacologic ascorbate could selectively kill cancer cells. To mimic clinical pharmacology, cancer and normal cells were incubated for 1 h in cell
culture media containing pharmacologic ascorbate concentrations ranging from 0 to 20 mmol/L. Of the normal cells tested, none were affected by 20
mmol/L ascorbate. In contrast, more than three-quarters of the 43 cancer lines tested showed sensitivity of ≤10 mmol/L, defined as the effective
ascorbate concentrations for killing 50% of a cancer cell type (EC50) (60, 64). Addition of the enzyme catalase to the cell culture media, which
catalyzes decomposition of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to oxygen and water, ameliorated the cytotoxicity of pharmacologic ascorbate. Based on these and
other in vitro experiments, the killing of cancer cells was proposed to be mediated by H2O2 formation, which in the presence of reduced transition
metal catalysts is classically thought to produce the highly reactive hydroxyl radical (OH·) species. This is commonly referred to as Fenton
chemistry, where ferrous iron (Fe2+) is oxidized by H2O2 to yield ferric iron (Fe3+) and OH·

Compared with controls, pharmacologic ascorbate decreased growth of established tumors by ~50%, which included models for ovarian, glioblastoma
(brain), and pancreatic cancer. In situ instrumentation showed that parenteral administration of pharmacologic ascorbate resulted in steady-state
formation of H2O2 within the interstitial fluid of both normal tissues and tumors, where concentrations approaching 200 μmol/L were detected

The effects of pharmacologic ascorbate on tumor growth in animals have now been confirmed in many laboratories, using the following models:
hepatoma, pancreatic cancer, colon cancer, sarcoma, leukemia, prostate cancer, and mesothelioma (62, 66–71). In these studies, ascorbate
doses were the same or

Preliminary clinical evidence is that massive doses of ascorbate (50-200 grams per 24 hours) can suppress the symptoms of the disease and can
markedly reduce the tendency for secondary infections. In combination with usual treatments for the secondary infections, large doses of ascorbate
will often produce a clinical remission which shows every evidence of being prolonged if treatment is continued.

Ascorbate deficiency is common in HIV-positive patients and is associated with impaired detoxification of sulfamethoxazole-nitroso, the suspected
proximate toxin in sulfonamide hypersensitivity. Patients taking daily ascorbate supplements (500-1000 mg) achieved high plasma ascorbate
concentrations and did not show this detoxification defect. Ascorbate deficiency (or supplementation) was not associated with changes in glutathione
or cysteine concentrations. These data suggest that ascorbate deficiency, independent of thiol status, may be an important determinant of impaired
drug detoxification in HIV infection

So tell me... why do some get cancer and die so quickly so young and deserving of a chance at life?

You are echoing the sentiments of the OP, thanks. Getting people to question, and use their minds, is often a tough task to accomplish.

Is cancer random?

That's tough to answer. I want to say it can't be fickle, but let's look at the overall cellular replication process.

Sometimes the cells divide properly, sometimes uncontrollably. Let's blame the genes in the DNA for that. Each gene is a copy from a previous
version, so there is SOMETHING that buggers the copying process. What? That's what we're rationalizing here.

(Fringe Reliquary: If the body is composed of cells, and the cells, molecules, and the molecules, atoms, and the atoms, electrons, protons, and
neutrons, which are then composed of quarks, how far back can we go before we dissolve into quantum foam? How does this factor in to the uncontrolled
growth of cells?)

Wow. Wish I had a better word for where this took my mind awandering, but am losing brain cells rapidly, and so lose track of my best vocabulary on a
regular, and usually most inconvenient timely basis.
Of eveything you wrote, which was fascinating, this really stunned me, with its implications, and even trying to ponder what this could mean. I'll
keep trying, though, and maybe have an epiphany while I'm at it. Here's hoping I'm still capable of those.
Great thread, and especially that question for consideration above.

We have cancerous cells and or harmful cells within our bodies, however our bodies are constantly battling for us day in and day out.

Excellent perspective to present. A virus is a cellular organism, quite harmful to our bodies, and our immune system functions 24/7. So very true.
It's when our immune system breaks down that we get colds, the flu, and diseases. In fact, our bodies are designed to fight off ANY foreign bodies,
whether respirated, ingested, or dermally absorbed. It tries to maintain a balance, and keep all systems functioning normally.

Case in point: When I got a vasectomy 4 years ago, I asked what happens to the sperm my body produces. I was told that my immune system sees the
sperm as foreign bodies, and absorbs them, and will build antibodies that deter sperm production.

Anti-bodies, therefore should play a vital role in this discussion, and how cancer overwhelms the natural system of antibodies our bodies produce.

Because I think there is no one answer to cancer, programmed into DNA, set off by a wound not healing and cellls becoming overzealous in repairing and
not stopping their supposed "repair" until they produce a new mass of cells with mixed messages, that just keep dividing and spreading, and then
instead of healing the initial wound, just take over normal functions where they aren't needed and start interfering on a terminal level.

Or, perhaps, it is a combination of programming in DNA, and the environmental exposures, and/or stress to the individual, that set off a kind of
cascade of reactions resulting in the disease. Or all combined. Perhaps it is parasitic infestation. Don't laugh. Totally possible. We are
programmed to believe in this country that we don't have and aren't susceptible to many parasites, like, say in more tropical less developed
countries. I find this doubtful. But I think tropical medicine research, which has the most information about this, isn't applied in this country
much. But parasitic infections are disease vectors, cause wounds within which do not heal without proper diagnoses and then treatment, and this
surely, would set off a cellular reaction to heal a wound, while the cellls never get the message to stop dividing, or keep dividing because they are
unable to heal the wound, because the wounds continue due to the parasitic infection still being present and feeding upon your body, as parasites do,
by definition.

There's a lot of money to be made in disease, in attempting to cure it, but not quite doing so. Doctors aren't the culprits. They are as
manipulated in the situation as we patients are. At least, from what I have seen. Research is becoming more common in regard to parasitic infection
and infestation in this country, though, and I think we will find eventually that they are far more prolific disease vectors of all kinds than we have
previously thought.

One reason a gene strand becomes altered is by radiation. Look at the gene strand as a sheet of music with a song on it. Shoot holes randomly through
the sheet and eventually you will hit some notes. Try and play that piece and there will be missing parts. The song still plays but the melody is
changed. If you copy that sheet, the same errors are passed on.

Any single cosmic ray, gamma ray or x-ray is enough to mutate a strand, there is no safe low dose. The potential to strike exactly the right part of
the gene in order to give rise to cancer is slim. That slim random chance is offset by the number of energetic particles zinging about 24/7 from every
direction and passing through the bazillion cell nucleuses that make up our bodies.

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