You guys forget that Shogun has the best Ground game in the ENTIRE division. If you watched him fight over in PRIDE or VTB he loves being on the ground, his sweeps are brutal, he can be mounted and in a second he is on top. He will not get subbed. He will submit Jones if he wants to get into a grappling match.

I'm just saying there's all sorts of shit i could be doing! I could watch a movie, play a video game, rub one out, read a book, learn a foreign language, etc.. But i'm still watching the assholes because i love them, and I hate myself

You guys forget that Shogun has the best Ground game in the ENTIRE division. If you watched him fight over in PRIDE or VTB he loves being on the ground, his sweeps are brutal, he can be mounted and in a second he is on top. He will not get subbed. He will submit Jones if he wants to get into a grappling match.

Bingo.

This is the thing. When a guy like Jones wins his first big fight, everyone is on his crotch.

I think that Jones will be a great fighter one day. But Shogun should walk through him.

I too am a big GSP fan but a fight against Silva may not be a wise decision. If GSP took a kick like the one Vitor took he'd still be sleeping.
I suppose if he schools Shields he may not have much choice. Just don't think he can get through 2 rounds with Silva.

Right. Jerm doesn't watch MMA that much because if he did, he'd know better. Shogun is a brutal stand up guy. If anything, Jones only chance is to get it to the ground and sub Shogun. Because I don't see him knocking Shogun out.

You know, Shogun fought Overeem twice and beat him twice, by a KO and TKO. Overeem is a pretty big guy, in the mold of a Jones. Jones has a 84 inch reach and Overeem has like 82 inch reach. That being said, Shogun has fought a guy in a mold like Jones.

As others have said, no way does Jones outstrike Shogun. he will get annihilated if he tries.

You know, Shogun fought Overeem twice and beat him twice, by a KO and TKO. Overeem is a pretty big guy, in the mold of a Jones. Jones has a 84 inch reach and Overeem has like 82 inch reach. That being said, Shogun has fought a guy in a mold like Jones.

As others have said, no way does Jones outstrike Shogun. he will get annihilated if he tries.

I appreciate everyone's opinion but I hardly compare Jones to Overrate. That horse eating roid pumping douche has lost to most of the top guys he's fought. He may be able to plow through Brett Rogers or Andrei Orlavsky but that's not much of a measuring stick.

Question for all of you picking Shogun? Is there another fighter besides Shogun at 205 that you would pick to beat Jones right now?

That's pretty darn subjective, but he's obviously a guy that can't be out wrestled. He has good submission skills and his striking is on the rise. He would have the toughest time with a good striker that has great takedown defense. This may not be a popular opinion but if he fought Machida he'd probably get a decision loss.

I appreciate everyone's opinion but I hardly compare Jones to Overrate. That horse eating roid pumping douche has lost to most of the top guys he's fought. He may be able to plow through Brett Rogers or Andrei Orlavsky but that's not much of a measuring stick.

Remember the skinny Overeem in Pride? Dude has some mean chokes in him.

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