Wonderful. So what we are having here from V/M fans: respect to some tabloid press, bullying non-native English speaker's grammar skills (are they even serious? ) and advocating for giving non-V/M uber the Badge of Honour "Banned for bashing Skate Canada!"

Carry on.

Then some people get upset when nationalism is brought up. Or feel disappointed that not so many non-NA posters are around. They are not around because they read posts like that and don't want to posts.

I've been lurking for the last few months and it's been some time since I posted something, but just wanted to add my two cents on this: Shaming non-native speakers for what is perceived as "not perfect" English, even if what they are writing is perfectly understandable, is not cool IMO. Shaming people for spelling mistakes etc. is not cool in general IMO.

About the two Carmens: I liked both. I very much enjoyed C/L's more linear, traditional approach. Don't agree that it's only "skin deep" (as I've read somewhere else on this board), it's restrained but to the point IMO. V/M's approach is interesting and has them finally (finally, finally!!!) go away from their fixation on "lovey dovey" stuff (no, i don't agree with the people who say all their FDs in the last years were totally different and anybody who can't see that is just an ignorant peasant...apart from "Pink Floyd" and to some degree the Latin FD they didn't venture enough out of their comfort zone for me). It did look a bit rough around the edges technically (?), though I'm no expert on that. And there seemed to be too much posing, something which I also found problematic in Krylova/Ovsiannikov's Carmen. I think the much too open and much too posing-heavy middle part Linichuk choreographed actually may have played a role in costing them Olympic gold medal chances.