I have difficulties to heal as a Restoration Druid

Post by Lea986

Hello guys. I've got some issues with healing. I just hoped that my hps is so low because of my low gear, but in time I'd collected some lfr gears and realize that maybe I can't heal as a resto. I'm Leâ from Burning Legion, and my hps is like 35k if I push myself in fight. In lfr, some druids whose stats are equal or less than me are making more hps than me. I've got my 3 lifebloom on tank, casting rejuv on me and open a swiftmend where more injured people stands - all when it's not in cd-, casting wild growth and spamming nourish etc. But I can't hit more than it and I have difficulties in raids or lfr's because of that. I had help immediately and I don't know what to do. :(((

Post by Mike

Your enchants. gems and reforging seem good, glyphs and talents also.

It may just be a case that this far in the expansion, everyone has good gear, and you are doing raid finder with geared people, as well as geared healers. It may be just that the better geared healers are taking the heals before you can.

What you can do is if you have a damage meter (Skada or Recount) is to check the Overhealing Done tab and see how many of your heals were actually wasted compared to the other healers.

As for swiftmend, I know using it on yourself means you know where its going to land. but most of the time its just best to use it on any melee player (easy if you have class coloured raid frames showing), so that the burst heal from Swiftmend isnt wasted on yourself and you dont waste time running in and out of melee range.

Post by Lea986

I'm not playing WoW for so long, and I had think that maybe the reason is me. A resto druid, whose gears just same as me kicked my heal and be more than me. And I'm so sad about this situation, I'm reading web-sites and checking other good druids armories that I've known. Trying to reach their stats but it is so hard to reach with my lfr gears as you see. Is it really necessary to use addons like HealBot. Just 5 of 4 people says that I should have learn that addon, it makes you more sufficient in game. But there is a situation like this, I can't run with my keybord. I'm using my mouse to run and healing with keyboard - so if I have to play with that addons, I should change my whole playing style and it's so difficult to learn an opposite style that I'm using.

And one last question, my hps level is level because of my gear you think. I'd make that hps level a personal problem, and I have to find the reason :/ Thanks again!

Post by Karlzone

First of all you should use pretty much get rid of nourish. It is close to useless, as it heals for basically nothing while also costing mana. Let your hots or healing rains cover those small amounts of damage. If there is more than small amounts of damage you wouldn't be using nourish anyways.

I think the big thing here is that you are not predicting damage well, not reacting fast enough or using too few rejuves.Rejuv is all this is about. If the tank is taking any amount of damage a rejuvenation on him is good.If there is a big hit (protector explosion on elegon) incomming you put up a few rejuves. DO NOT OVERDO IT. Play smartly with your mana. Your goal is to be at exactly 0 mana when the fight ends but not a second sooner. This is when you know that you utilized as many rejuves as you possibly could.Getting used to fight/reseaching is a big one as well. Knowing when to delay a swiftmend or and get a wild growth ready is great as well. Knowing which people will take damage. Knowing which people to NOT put a swiftmend on.A lot of this comes with practise as well once you get used to watching your healbot AND your screen. You can spot those hunters staying outside the raid, and think that he will definitely want a rejuv (on a fight like tsulong), but definitely NOT want a swiftmend.

Post by ziva1991

I got the same problem with my druid. My ilvl is 483 or so and my noob priest with ilvl 458 got more healing done then the druid. So my druid gos in sleep mode and i go back to priest healz. :D

Post by arthuuur

OK.

1) Use your cooldowns more. Tranquility can be used at minimum twice in every fight as can Incarnation (Tree). On 14 minute long fights like Grand Empress you can get 4 tranqs and 4 trees off no bother. Cooldowns are mana efficient, the more you use them, the more mana you will have. (I pop ironbark / tranq / tree etc. etc. on trash all the time just because I get into the habit of using all the tools available.)

2) Innervate more. You should use it on cooldown basically. Pop it as soon as you get to 75% mana and then on cooldown after that. Ask moonkins and ferals to give you theirs as well, ask priests to make a yell macro for hymn of hope and pop your innervate after they use their hymn! That will give you extra mana! Use a potion of focus as well.

3) Rejuv more. Don't bother with nourish, just spam rejuv like crazy. Rejuv goes on everyone. If you need to cast something, cast a regrowth (or a NS healing touch!) -- one of the things about Rejuv is that it has an instant heal associated with it, if you want to boost your meters and you know you have no mana issues you can use it to heal snipe those pesky disc priests.

4) Glyph Regrowth, Wild Growth and Lifebloom. By using all your OoC procs on regrowth you can be sure of applying a living seed to your targets.

5) Make macros! If you have herbalism, macro in your lifeblood to wild growth or something. macro trinkets to swiftmend, etc. etc. NS+HT. Natures Vigil+Tranq or Tree etc etc.

Post by Mike

Ask moonkins and ferals to give you theirs as well

Ferals won't give out Innervate as it only gives the target player ~6000mana, which is not worth going out of form and losing DPS. Although personally I do do that but only after I have finished casting a Tranq.

And the above points are very well and obvious. The main thing about a healer is DO NOT WASTE HEALS. As I mentioned earlier, keep track of your "Overhealing Done" and make sure you havent wasted heals. Ofcourse its not completely avoidable, but you should not end a fight with 20 million overhealing done for example...

And If you want to be #1 on the healing meters, you main thing will be to snag the heals before anyone else does, which goes well with predicting damage and when the best time is to heal.

Post by arthuuur

Mike's correct, some stuff just takes experience and practice and often with druids knowledge of the specific fight mechanics.

Pre-cast heals. Back in the old days we used to spen 80% of our time pre-casting and then moving or jumping to stop the heal. This was because health pools and mana pools were smaller and heals were relative larger and more costly. So one way of effectively healing was to cancel a cast if the player either had got another heal from someone else or didnt need the entirety of a big heal.Pre-casting also has advantages in that if you are good you can time it so the heal hits in a sub-GCD timeframe.

People often say healing is all about ABC - "always be casting" - to a certain degree it's true, you just have to be willing to stop the heal and start recasting it or switch to a different tool depending on how the situation changes.

TBH though in MoP its a bit of a return to Wrath style healing. Mana is an almost meaningless commodity these days if you get into the habit of doing basic mana management stuff. There are very few fights in which mana presents a problem, normally if you're OOM'ing on progress fights it the DPS which are "doing it wrong" and if you're finishing the fights with mana left over you should probably be doing more healing. Often Blizz like to make fights with big high number burn phases at the end, think Elegon, Beth'Tilac etc. etc. one way of getting big numbers is to conserve mana by playing efficiently so you can enter these burn phases with more mana than you need then play less efficiently than you would normally do to boost your HPS.

The other big thing is using a mouseover raid frame like Vuhdo, Healbot, Grid+clique etc. Stick it right in the middle of your screen with very simple keybinds and it will improve both your healing stats and your general awareness. Some healers tend to get caught "tunnelling" on intense fights by keeping the raid frame central you dont have to look as far away from your raid frame as you do when it's way off to the side.

Post by arthuuur

As for overhealing, the vast majority of druid overhealing is done from Rejuv, hopefully our new mushroom mechanic will help with this issue.

As an aside overhealing is only a problem if you don't have mana. If you have enough mana to complete content while having high overhealing stats then it doesnt matter.

Post by Roull15

I'm not playing WoW for so long, and I had think that maybe the reason is me. A resto druid, whose gears just same as me kicked my heal and be more than me. And I'm so sad about this situation, I'm reading web-sites and checking other good druids armories that I've known. Trying to reach their stats but it is so hard to reach with my lfr gears as you see. Is it really necessary to use addons like HealBot. Just 5 of 4 people says that I should have learn that addon, it makes you more sufficient in game. But there is a situation like this, I can't run with my keybord. I'm using my mouse to run and healing with keyboard - so if I have to play with that addons, I should change my whole playing style and it's so difficult to learn an opposite style that I'm using.

And one last question, my hps level is level because of my gear you think. I'd make that hps level a personal problem, and I have to find the reason :/ Thanks again!

maybe you could try with the mouseover macros if you have a hard time or not fast enough

Post by Iskiab

From what you wrote I think I know what the issue is. You should be using swiftmend on cooldown, every time it's up. With hot healing you generally want your hots to be up before damage hits.

Post by ignis86

maybe you could try with the mouseover macros if you have a hard time or not fast enough

This. I started using MoM {mouse-over macros} a while ago for healing (along with grid back then but standard blizz raid frames now) and greatly increased my output.

i use this for all my heals

#showtooltip/cast Rejuvenation; Rejuvenation; Rejuvenation

you can mouse-over their frame or them in the game itself. Using MoM makes it faster since you aren't taking a click to target, simply over over and hit the key you bind the macro to.

Post by Shatteredsword

rejuvs man... it's all about the rejuvs

swiftmend and wild growth are on a cd, so even if you use them on cd there is a limit to the hps they can pull off. It is insane how much healing our rejuvs do in this expansion. The amount of healing done by rejuvs in a fight versus any other heal is WAAAY larger, no other class has this big of a disparity.

Overhealing... with absorbs rockin the meters nowadays we overheal alot inevitably, essentially all classes have some form of compensation for their overhealing except for us (mushrooms helps a bit but doesnt solve it). Just dont throw a rejuv on someone who isnt taking dmg or doesnt have any incoming dmg... tanks, for example, should usually have a rejuv on them, you're going to overheal but that's ok

personally i prefer healing in 10 man with my druid. It just feels better imho. we've got scaling issues with 25 man and rejuving a 25 man group can be daunting and confusing for beginners.

Post by Nightwolfe

The other big thing is using a mouseover raid frame like Vuhdo, Healbot, Grid+clique etc. Stick it right in the middle of your screen with very simple keybinds and it will improve both your healing stats and your general awareness. Some healers tend to get caught "tunnelling" on intense fights by keeping the raid frame central you dont have to look as far away from your raid frame as you do when it's way off to the side.

I agree with almost all the advice you've gave on this topic but the most unforgiving mechanics in current content seem too be on the floor, if my healers say things like 'I was looking at my vuhdo' or 'I couldnt see the stuff on the floor because my vuhdo was in the way' I find it completely 100% unforgivable. Obscuring the Area utilised by your character will only result in these things, I'd highly urge you never too place things centrally.

Hope this Saves a wipe or 10.

Post by ignis86

I Place my frames dead center right over the action bars, hasn't ever caused a problem. Anyone who has an issue with that should learn to be turning their camera more.

Post by Nightwolfe

'Right in the middle of your screen' and 'Just above your action bars' are 2 completely different places. As for turning your camera that's entirely dependant on whether you play zoomed in/out, the elevation of your camera and the encounter. Personally when healing/ranged i prefer a zoomed out overhead view at max camera distance. prefer a nice close up as melee/tank though.

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