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Here’s a front view of the car, it does have some paint flaking off the top of it, the clear coat, and the headlights are yellow, it’s going to need a really good cleaning, my son in low can fix the paint problem.

Here’s a picture of the back

The only real body damage I saw was the rust spot on the trunk lid, and a small dent in the front fender, a Job my son in law can fix

It also has this little problem with the rear window side trim, it looks like the rubber is shot and the trim is coming off, need to fix that

Here’s the clear coat fading

I was really concerned about the interior having 280,000 miles on it, then I saw the seat covers and figured the seats were completely shot;

But when I pulled the seat covers back, the seats were perfect underneath:

The stereo is gone, but the dash isn’t torn up, so I should be able to give it a clean replacement:

The carpet is also perfect under the floor mats:

The only problem I found with the interior was the lack of sun visors, both sides are missing:

I really like the aftermarket wheels, there’s no curb rash on them, with a little cleanup, they should look really good:

I got the car started tonight, it runs great, I let it idle for about an hour, no over heating , nice and quiet, and runs very smoothly.

it acts like the clutch is gone, you can shift through all the gears while running but it won't move, I noticed a slight RPM drop when in gear, the clutch peddel will go all the way to the floor and stays there unless you give it a good swift thump, then it will pop back up to the top.

Interesting. I'm betting there's some real nasty carnage inside that transmission. The fact that it was popping out of gears..... this is not a common issue with the AWD 5MT's so I'm sure it's totally blowed up inside. Drain the gear oil - I bet there's a whole party pack of little metal favors in there.

Interesting. I'm betting there's some real nasty carnage inside that transmission. The fact that it was popping out of gears..... this is not a common issue with the AWD 5MT's so I'm sure it's totally blowed up inside. Drain the gear oil - I bet there's a whole party pack of little metal favors in there.

GD

I'm thinking it's gonna be a blown tranny, I need to collect parts like a cutch and tranny and we'll be talking, I also found a reciept in the paper work for a new clutch and resurfaced flywheel about 100,000 miles ago, so I'm thinking that if the fly wheel has already been resurfaced once, I'm probably gonna want a new one when we pull replace the tranny and clutch.

My initial reaction is that it is possibly just a completely wasted clutch. I hear what appears to be the "clutch trash" being blendered up by the hub and springs of the destroyed disc. Of course that just means we are replacing the clutch which we knew anyhow. A proper examination of the transmission is needed to pass judgement on it's viability since it can't be driven.

We shall see and I'll hold off actual diagnosis till I get it apart but that's my 5 minute examination.

OR Chip Foose and the Overhaulin' team is reworking your car right now! Don't forget to act surprised when they return a subaru brz to your driveway.Damn I wish I lived in the PNW with a GD close by.

hahaha, yes, I admit it, knowing GD and having him live close by has it's benefits.

As far as that tranny is concerned, there was something wrong with 4th gear to begin with, it wouldn't stay in gear so the people I got it from would just skip right on past it and go straight into 5th gear from third.

so at the least, the tranny needs to be looked at or repaired or something so it will stay in 4th gear.

I enjoyed reading again all the posts up to the present on the dialogue of your Subie tranny & clutch. With clutch and tranny repair, it sounds like your "new" car will be back on the road soon...........enjoy!!

I enjoyed reading again all the posts up to the present on the dialogue of your Subie tranny & clutch. With clutch and tranny repair, it sounds like your "new" car will be back on the road soon...........enjoy!!

I'm guessing it will be on the road in a week or two, it's going to need some other work like seals, timing belt, hoses and such, but that can wait a little bit, it will be nice just to have it drivable.

I also just got a 1978 4x4 chevy truck that GD is gonna get to work on, 70,000 original miles, straight, no rust, one owner, but it's been sitting for a few years and needs a good tune up and cleaning.

tonight after work, I stopped by GD's shop and picked up the Legacy, and drove it home.

for something that's been sitting dead in the water for the last 3 years, it sure drove nice tonight.

with expired tags,(the last registration ended in 2010) I was really looking over my shoulder on my way home but never did get stopped by the police.

It's about an 8 mile drive from GD's shop to my house, but I live out in the sticks, so the travel is mostly dark country back roads.

for the first time I really got a chance to see what the difference is between a Loyale and a Legacy ...all I can say is WOW! the power difference is enormous, it just feels like a lot more car then the Loyale.

when you hit the throttle on the Legacy, you got power right now, no waiting, or hesitating about it, you hit the throttle and you know your going somewhere, unlike the loyale that's often passed up by joggers along side the road, and the mountain bike rider on his trusty TREK that just rode right on past me going up that hill.

with that Loyale, it's under powered enough that sometimes I have really felt that it would help if I started flintstoning it by punching a couple of holes through the floor boards and getting my feet down there to help push it up the hills

I still like the body style of the Loyale, and the simplicity of the machine, but I can now see why the Legacy has such a loyal following.

beins how we just got it running, the car is still dirty filthy, and needs a lot of serious cleaning, but after driving it tonight, I look forward to getting it registered and licensed and being able to use it, for a spare car, that Legacy is a good choice

I am still going to enjoy the Loyale, and it certainly has it place in my life, but whoa, this Legacy is gonna be a whole lotta fun.

This car has been running great since GD fixed the clutch and transmission; it had a half tank of 3 year old gas in it that I’ve been working on running out of it. I can’t really drive it yet because I haven’t switched over the title or gotten it registered and the license expired in 2010, so I’ve only been able to make short trips around the property with it which equals out to be a little more then ¼ mile per loop around the property.

My plan is to put some seafoam treated fuel in the tank once I run out the old gas that’s in there now, so far, I’ve gotten it from a half tank down to an eighth tank

I had a day off work and a chance to stay home so I decided to do a little cleaning on the legacy