Re: "a continuous Jewish presence for the past 3000 plus years"

"The Roman, Ottomans and the British never held elections." Look again, Matt, I never said elections. "Election" being a formal and organized process of electing somebody to something. I said "electorate", those people qualified to vote and elect somebody IF and WHEN there's election. The Arabs living in the Mandate after 1922 were so qualified. However, the self-interested British only allowed the people to vote in plebiscites for monarchs the Brits had nominated.

"At the Cairo Conference of 1921, the British set the parameters for Iraqi political life that were to continue until the 1958 revolution; they chose Faisal as Iraq's first King; they established an indigenous Iraqi army; and they proposed a new treaty. To confirm Faisal as Iraq's first monarch, a one-question plebiscite was carefully arranged that had a return of 96 percent in his favor. The British saw in Faisal a leader who possessed sufficient nationalist and Islamic credentials to have broad appeal, but who also was vulnerable enough to remain dependent on their support."

And as for you previous contention that oil was unknown to the region until 1933, look at this:

"Before the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the British- controlled Turkish Petroleum Company (TPC) had held concessionary rights to the Mosul wilayah. Under the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement--an agreement in 1916 between Britain and France that delineated future control of the Middle East--the area would have fallen under French influence. In 1919, however, the French relinquished their claims to Mosul under the terms of the Long- Berenger Agreement. The 1919 agreement granted the French a 25 percent share in the TPC as compensation."

"Beginning in 1923, British and Iraqi negotiators held acrimonious discussions over the new oil concession. The major obstacle was Iraq's insistence on a 20 percent equity participation in the company; this figure had been included in the original TPC concession to the Turks and had been agreed upon at San Remo for the Iraqis. In the end, despite strong nationalist sentiments against the concession agreement, the Iraqi negotiators acquiesced to it. The League of Nations was soon to vote on the disposition of Mosul, and the Iraqis feared that, without British support, Iraq would lose the area to Turkey. In March 1925, an agreement was concluded that contained none of the Iraqi demands. The TPC, now renamed the Iraq Petroleum Company (IPC), was granted a concession for a period of seventy-five years."

You remember "Heisenberg's Certainty Principle?" If one of your neighbors has oil underneath his country, you can be almost certain there's oil under yours.

"you could look at the long list of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners"

Why would I do that? All I have to do is turn on cable tv and somewhere on the 250 channels there is a Jewish talking head reciting them. Like the Jewish prayer for the dead until the body is buried, someone in some language is receiting the names of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners. In perpetuity or the sun becomes a red giant. Which ever comes first.

@Matt: "Where were you graduated from, Matt?

Dog Obedience School?

The British Mandate of Palestine ended "In September 1947." When the British government announced that the Mandate for Palestine would end at midnight on 14 May 1948. The lame duck period from September 1947 to May 1948 was just used to move England's office furniture onto the HMS Dunkirk in the hopes it could make it back to Jolly Old. The roly poly British Diplomats stumbled aboard with their pencil sharpeners and souvenir hookahs. More importantly, in this lame duck period of 9 months, the Israelis would be armed to the teeth for the War that every one but you knew was going to happen. A War that would establish Israel as the rich, white man's toe hold on land close enough to their oil rich puppet Arab Kings, Princes and Sheiks.

Don't even bother to reply to this but fetch the newspaper at the end of the driveway. Good boy. Roll over and I'll give you a bone. :o)

Matt Bryant: "Local Dupe spouts absolute male genetalia.

@Matt: " It just goes to show that stellar intelligence does not equate to being smart.

How would you know as you are neither?

Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Stephen Hawking to Travel to Iran for International High School Physics Competition

Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking, best known for his work in cosmology and quantum physics, will attend the annual International Physics Olympiad, a brain-to-brain competition among the top physics high school students of 86 countries. The competition will be held this year in Isfahan, Iran, July 13 - 22.

Students from every continent gather each year to test their knowledge on advanced physics and also to experience the cultures of the countries they visit. This year's Olympiad exemplifies the flow of free scientific exchange between countries. In previous years, students have visited China, Spain and South Korea, where they spent time visiting the families of the local students. The host country often also offers cultural events for these future scientists. The competition will be held at Iran's prestigious Isfahan University of Technology.

The United States Physics Olympiad students will travel to the University of Maryland in June to prepare for the international competition. After a week of lectures, labs and exams, five students will be selected to the traveling team. The students will also experience the nearby attractions of the nation's capital and visit their Senators and Representatives to encourage Congress to support physics.

Historically, the US has done well at the International Olympiad: from 1986 to 2005, the United States Teams have brought home 26 gold, 20 silver, and 26 bronze medals; and 11 honorable mentions.

Hawking will likely address the students at the competition, and many of them already know him as a strong role model for accomplishments in physics. The hosts of the competition will provide more information on Hawking's visit as it becomes available.

The US team is sponsored by the American Association of Physics Teachers, the American Institute of Physics, the American Physical Society and many other scientific organizations and technology corporations."

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM 86 COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES. I WOULDN'T SURPRISED IF SOME 16 YEAR OLD LIMEYS WERE THERE.

Anyone who believes Mona Charen's spewmation, is doubledumb.

I suppose you still won't say when the geologists and petroleum analysts proclaimed the Holy English Mandate barren of oil. But Matt, look.

"Oil exploration in Israel began in 1953. Until 1991 a total of 263 exploration wells and 122 development wells were drilled, 3 oil fields and 5 gas fields were discovered, and 4 noncommercial oil discoveries and 1 noncommercial gas discovery were made. Proven in-place reserves amount to 70 million barrels of oil equivalent (MMBOE). Exploration focused on six main plays: Syrian Arc anticlines; Mesozoic platform-edge, structural-stratigraphic traps; the Dead Sea graben; Early Mesozoic structures; Saqiye Group biogenic gas; and Hula Group biogenic gas. The more significant discoveries are associated with the first two plays. Ninety percent of the proven reserves were discovered by the first 71 wildcats, which constitute 27 percent of all wildcats drilled to date. During this phase of exploration, the average success was 7 percent, and the average discovery rate was 0.88 MMBOE per wildcat. Most of the following 192 wildcats were dry holes. If, as experts claim, significant reserves are still undiscovered, previous exploration must be deemed inefficient. The quantitative model of the discovery process also leads to such an assessment."

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01782276

Does Mrs Bryant (mother or wife) know exactly how full of bologna you are?

Israel's bereftness may be known now. But when would google have known that MP were devoid of oil, if google were around before 1933?

Do you think T E Lawrence communicated that information in a letter to his boyfriend before oil was found in Arabia in 1933? ('Archie dearest, I miss you so terribly much. By the bye, there is no oil in Mandate Palestine. Pity. We could have been on Easy Street instead of Queer Street...') Or did M King Hubbert make that finding in 1943 after hiring on with Shell Oil?

Re: Titus Flavius Josephus also called Joseph ben Matityahu,....

"".....you'll find oodles and oodles of petroleum...."

As for oil, there was none in Mandate Palestine. But I don't expect you to actually know facts like that."

Facts like what, Bubbeleh? When was it determined that there was no oil in MP? On the sixth day of creation as told in Genesis? In 1920 when the Brits took the Mandate? In 1933 when prospectors found the largest oil deposits in the Milky Way in nearby Arabia? In 1947 when the Brits gave up the Mandate?

Just because you recently read on google that there was no oil in MP, doesn't mean that that information was carved in runic inscriptions on the horizontal slabs at Stonehenge or soon will be translated from the Dead Sea Scrolls. :o)

"There was no sovereign nation in place in the West Bank or East Jerusalem areas outside the area declared as Israel in 1948."

Was this not the fault of the English and their Mandate of Control after the WWI? England itself was responsible for the political condition the Arabs found themselves from after the first world war to 1948.

And if you roll back the carpet of greed and avarice the English were so comfortable reclining on, you'll find oodles and oodles of petroleum.

Oh, am I being to honest? The English would never fuck up another people for their own profit or riches.

Re: @Matt Bryant " liebensraum (land for expansion)"

BTW, what's the difference between: "Israeli settlements in the occupied territories (commonly referred to as simply Israeli settlements) are the Jewish civilian communities built on lands occupied by Israel during the 1967 Six-Day War. Such settlements currently exist in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights." What is the difference between that and LEBENSRAUM?

Hitler's first objectives of lebensraum were the seizure of Austria and Czechoslovakia to protect Germany's eastern and southern flanks.

He is extremely armed (knuckle dragger) but not too dangerous. He was last seen running down the street, wearing a cowl with his little pointy face and bug eyes exposed. If you see him call 1-800- Delusions of Grandeur.

standard Internet attack pieces.... which are predictable and very easy to debunk.

DEBUNK THIS, SIR

"A Juridical Examination of the Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty

NAVAL LAW REVIEW VOL. 36 WINTER 1986

Lieutenant Commander Walter L. Jacobsen, JA GC, USN"

usslibertyinquiry.com/law/jacobsen.pdf

"Not only are you reaching for the bottled Israel-bashing sauce, this one you've already tried and been soundly shown up on!" said Matt Bryant.

You call that debunking Lt Com Jacobsen? This is the second time I've brought up the Jacobsen inquiry. The first time the topic was closed before you could worm your way out of an answer. This time we get the laughable answer above. (ha ha)

Where did your debunking appear, Sir? In the Kibbutznik Farmer's Almanack?

Where the reader is told to use the magazine as toilet paper after a week of wrong predictions?

I weep for your world class stupidity. Unless you are old enough for dementia, in which case I weep for that.

Philistines were a completely separate ethnic group to the people that later became the Arabs

"your definition of clever being a whole lot lower in cleverness than the.... norm"

Hey, I guess that's why I enjoy carrying on with you so much. Your cleverness is a lot lower than I think it is. You are so full of male bovine manure, when you're on the streets, everybody is afraid there's going to be another zeppelin attack.

" I would also have to point out I post verifiable facts and leave the lies, myths and hyperbole to you and your ilk"

Matt, did you know that when you lie like that there's a twinkle in your eye and the corners of your mouth turn up in a stifled smile?. In poker they call it a 'tell'.

I remember our back and forth about the USS Liberty and how you said the IDF thought the embattled ship was Egyptian and then tried to sink it. I said the Israelis knew it was American.. So then I posted this and proved how full of it you and Israel are:

"A Juridical Examination of the Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty

NAVAL LAW REVIEW VOL. 36 WINTER 1986

Lieutenant Commander Walter L. Jacobsen, JA GC, USN"

Later that day you were seen crossing the Waterloo Bridge and were captured on a cell phone camera looking like the screaming woman in Edvard Munch's masterpiece, Det Skrik (The Scream.) Enjoy.http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/graphics/icons/comment/coffee_keyboard_32.png

Re: "Here there be Philistines."

"Here there be Philistines." (A play on the markings on old maps. And a play on the name, Palestinians, from an ancient people who lived close by the deed holding Hebrews. I hope I don't have to explain all my jokes to you from now on.)

Admit it, Matt, you haven't come up with as clever a line as that since you've been posting here. In all likelihood since you were born.

All you do is submit the same old ad hominum crap reply after reply after reply after etc.

I see your replies to those who also don't cave in to your bullying and, yep, they get the same old put downs.

OTOH, I suppose a lot of us wouldn't have as much fun here if we couldn't laugh at you. :oD

Re: Local Dupe Matt Bryant Is this joke anti-Semitic?

Re: Matt Bryant, Kibbutznik.

How come when I mention the meds you're on, my comment gets rejected? While you can post about my meds all day long and improperly borrow a line from mine? ("Seriously, whatever meds you're taking, they are obviously not working.") I wrote that about YOU just the other day. It was rejected.

I'm not going to take you to the Hague or anything, but how do you expect me to take you seriously when you're just a wannabe Oxbridge plagiarizer?

"please don't waste any more bandwidth." Duh. That's all the internet is is wasted bandwith.

Have you ever heard of FaceBook? Of course, you have. You're there more than you're here.

Re: Matt Bryant Is this joke anti-Semitic?

"The only cow in a small town in Poland stopped giving milk. The people did some research and found that they could buy a cow from Moscow for 2000 rubles, or one from Minsk for 1000 rubles. Being frugal, they bought the cow from Minsk.

The cow was wonderful. It produced lots of milk all the time, and the people were amazed and very happy. They decided to acquire a bull to mate with the cow and produce more cows like it. Then they would never have to worry about the milk supply again.

They bought the bull and put it in the pasture with their beloved cow.

However, whenever the bull came close to the cow, the cow would move away. No matter what approach the bull tried, the cow would move away from the bull and he could not succeed in his quest. The people were very upset and decided to ask the rabbi, who was very wise, what to do. They told the rabbi what was happening; "Whenever the bull approaches our cow, she moves away. If he approached from the back , she moves forward. When he approaches her from the front, she backs off. An approach from the side and she just walks away to the other side." The rabbi thought about this for a minute and asked, "Did you buy this cow from Minsk?" The people were dumbfounded. They had never mentioned where they have gotten the cow. "You are truly wise rabbi. How did you know we got the cow from Minsk?"

Re: Matt Bryant, Kibbutznik.

I have a friend in New York who has a similar background. He moved to Israel in the 70's and raised his lovely family there. They all returned in the 90's. Now he has a successful online public relations business. All of his friends are convinced he is Mossad. Do you remember someone like him when you were being trained by the Mossad?

Is it true that Yitzhak Shamir personally gave you a tour of Dimona? Cool.

Never "been a country called Palestine and never a people called Palestinians."

Palestinian comes from the word Philistine (a people living in Canaan before Joshua and his interlopers barged in, according to the Holy Word in the Holy Bible), just as England is derived from Angeln (where the Angles came from). You do remember the Angles, Jutes, and Saxons?

Re: This must be the punishment you meant, Matt.

This must be the punishment you meant, Matt.

""IDF soldier convicted" and you'll get hits for a number of cases where Israeli soldiers have been convicted by Israeli courts for illegally killing, wounding or endangering Palestinians." And for taking a dump on city streets. On the sabbath, yet.

HAARETZ

"An Israeli soldier who exposed his buttocks to Palestinians while on patrol in the West Bank city of Hebron on Saturday was sentenced to 20 days in army prison.

The incident occurred during routine activities by Kfir Brigade troops. In the midst of a verbal exchange between three soldiers and a number of Palestinians, one of the soldiers pulled down his pants and exposed his behind to the group of Palestinians.

The soldiers themselves reported the incident to their company commander, an Israel Defense Forces source said. After a disciplinary hearing the offender was sent to army prison for 20 days.

The IDF Spokesman's Office said on Sunday, "Yesterday an incident occurred in which an IDF soldier failed in his behavior and acted in a manner inconsistent with IDF values. The incident was reported to commanders who dealt with the matter."

In 2008 three Kfir Brigade soldiers were filmed exposing their buttocks to a Palestinian farmer near Hebron and flashing the "V" for victory hand gesture at Palestinian bystanders. The soldiers were sentenced to 21 days in prison and suspended from operational military service."

When it comes to punishing IDF soldiers for wounding or killing Palestinians the IDF court is often AWOL. When it comes to punishing IDF soldiers for holding their hairy, pimply asses up for public ridicule, the IDF court makes Singapore look like the Christmas Islands. B:- (B is for buttocks. I assume you're familiar with those other little things)

With every misbegotten comment, Matt Bryant looks more like Pavlov's dog..

and I don't mean his drooling caused by his early stage dementia. I mean the ill-tempered personal attacks which vary inversely with his meaningless arguments.

MB)"The Israelis have the tech and capability to sweep into the West Bank and Gaza and kill or evict every single Fakeistinian there"

ME) "It wouldn't be because the global boycott of Israeli products wouldn't happen because of economic pressure"

MB)"a new boycott would make zero difference."

ME) The Guardian reports:"The Co-operative Group has become the first major European supermarket group to end trade with companies that export produce from illegal Israeli settlements.

The UK's fifth biggest food retailer and its largest mutual business, the Co-op took the step as an extension of its existing policy which had been not to source produce from illegal settlements that have been built on Palestinian territories in the West bank." It took the boycott by the West 70 years to change Russia.

Oh,you expected a boycott to bankrupt Israel overnight? Nope.

"when they (members of the IDF) break those laws they are tried and convicted." Matt did your nose get longer when you wrote that? Send me a pix of your nose with a swallow perched on it. Please.

"Israel, as a sovereign state, has the right under international law to self-defence."

THE REALITY OF THAT, DUDEFACE, IS THAT SELF-DEFENSE IS IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF THE AGGRESSOR.

Hope your drooling stops soon. It should when the full fledged dementia sets in. :-!

"is a deliberate attempt at the murder of Israeli civilians"

1) Believe it or not, attempted murder and murder are two different crimes. But apparently not for Matt Bryant and the IDF. Matt could argue that attempted murder is the more heinous of the two crimes.

2) " the IDF has the capability to sweep into the West Bank and Gaza and kill or evict every single Fakeistinian there, yet they do not" It wouldn't be because the global boycott of Israeli products would cause the rabbis to change Psalm 137? " By the waters of Babylon, there we sat down and wept, when we remembered our prophets?"

3) "why do the Fakeistinians carry on with their stupid rocket attacks? It's right there in '1984'. You shoud probably reread it. "That what they really value is the idea they can terrorise Israeli civilians?" Yup.

Oz has spoken.

And you too, Matt, have not been paying attention. (Why should I pay attention, if you don't?)

"I've posted several times that I'm not religious." I know you're not religious. It's worth noting how many atheists, after getting seriously ill, hop on the bandwagon. The frailty of old age pushes people who are afraid to die into the bosom of God.

Now I've said many times I have no great love for Assange, but you keep on making snide, humorless comments about us. If you keep it up, expect some Jehovah's Witness jokes from me.

"your blind devotion to the equally disproven economic beliefs of Karl Marx" That was uncalled for. You know I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the communist party.

"Let Treasons be Trumps. And Trumps they were." Sorry, Matt, I couldn't find out anything in google about how US indictments for espionage trump an EAW for rape. You got a citation?

The irony about you and me and Assange is this: I think he is a dumbfuck for getting caught in a "honey trap" and you are so into how kosher Anna and Sofia are, we can't even agree about that. It's like an O. Henry story.

Re: Matt, I sincerely hope you do win the lottery.

"you mean to say is there is a heavily edited version, especially for sheeple consumption," Is that your prayer for this Sunday, Matt Bryant?

" would have been easier for the US to extradite A$$nut from the UK rather than Sweden. Did the US attempt to extradite A$$nut when he was under the control of the UK courts?" This is signature Matt Bryant blather. The US had not charged Assange when he was in England. They would have had to have an indictment before they could ask England to extradite him. And didn't Sweden already want him for questioning and get a EAW which put him into English custody? Wasn't Sweden first in line? Did you expect the US to butt into the queue?

You don't care about anything except getting Assange in the shower room with Bubba and proudly shout it from the roof tops. OTOH even though the US behaves exactly like Joe Stalin's Russia, they hate being seen doing so.

Matt, I sincerely hope you do win the lottery.

Because your brain has stopped working and very soon you are going to need another source of income.

"Justice Stefan Lindskog said there was, in the most extreme and extraordinary of cases, a chance the US could extradite A$$nut..."

"On 28 November 2010, WikiLeaks began releasing some of the 251,000 American diplomatic cables in their possession, of which over 53 percent are listed as unclassified, 40 percent are "Confidential" and just over six percent are classified "Secret".

What say you, Matt Bryant? Does the US consider the release of 6% of 251,000, secret documents, to be an "extreme and extraordinary" action worthy of an equal response?

"What was more interesting though, was the response of the panelists to Justice Lindskog’s speech, which was not covered in the live stream, nor was the Q&A from the audience. And fortunately, it was recorded and there is an audio recording on the Internet of the Q&A session.

And during that session Justice Lindskog was asked whether, despite his assertion that Sweden does not extradite on political or military grounds, whether Julian Assange could be extradited from Sweden to the US. And he admitted that yes, it was quite possible.

Robles: He said that, he said it was quite possible?

Kostakidis: Yes, it was quite possible. He was reminded that Sweden has extradited people extra-judicially. Two Egyptians were sent to Egypt, handed over to the CIA and tortured in Egypt, and that states do act extra-judicially, and Sweden in particular has acted extra-judicially. And he admitted that it was possible that Assange could be handed over to the US by Sweden.

The important issue that Julian Burnside raised in his response to Justice Lindskog, and Julian represents Julian Assange in Australia, was that Sweden has this temporary surrender agreement with the US, which means that if Julian were in Sweden and he would be in jail, he would be held without bail, the US could borrow him for another trial, and Sweden would hand him over. And again, when Justice Lindskog was asked about this, he refused to comment about it. So, it was very interesting that he has been very careful about this issue.

Re: Anna Ardin gives new meaning to the expression 'rim job.'

".... he could be extradited....." Put that zombie argument back in it's grave, it's been shot down so many times I'm surprised even you could be so desperate as to try wheeling it out again."

"Moreover, Justice Stefan Lindskog uttered the important statement (quoted in the beginning of this text) in answering a question during the panel, where he clearly admits that extradition to the US can be possible even outside the interpretation or use of the law. The risk for the extradition of Julian Assange to the US continues unabated."

"Finally – and to the best of my recall –Lindskog never talked about Sweden-US temporary surrender agreement, which is a risk to M. Assange that has been widely discussed in international condemnation of Sweden. Other aspects relevant to the above, and not touched upon by Justice Lindskog on the theme of political extraditions, are taken up in the referred the above referred Newsmill article “Mismanagement of the Assange case devastating to Sweden’s international reputation“.

"Minister Carl Bildt incorrectly claimed that the Sweden government couldn’t make a guarantee that Assange won't be extradited because the decision rests with the judiciary. This is now proven as flagrantly inaccurate. The final decision for approving an extradition rests with the government. The question that remains is, why the Swedish government persist in prolonging this case, whose deadlock could otherwise easily be ended"