Are The "Trump Tapes" Fake or Not!?

The pee-pee tape apparently is real, and our boys have it. Proving it's real, however, in a sea of Kremlin-made fakes is going to be tough.
They very well could be using some of the technology already mentioned, but it seems some of the fakes are really bad...

As many as a dozen intelligence services worldwide, on four continents, are in possession of some sort of “Trump tape” featuring sexual
escapades of a controversial nature; in some cases, the women involved appear to be underage. Some of these tapes have been shared with the
Mueller investigation.

One Western intelligence agency with a solid professional reputation is in possession of an unpleasant Trump tape that they assess “with high
confidence” is bona fide, i.e. exactly what it appears to be. They obtained the tape from a trusted source who plausibly had access to it. Over
the decades, Trump has traveled widely—including to Russia more than once—and thereby exposed himself to surreptitious filming in numerous
countries.

However, here’s the rub: Many of the “Trump tapes” floating around in spy circles worldwide cannot be verified, while some of them are
obvious fakes. The Western spy agency that’s holding a Trump tape they’re pretty sure is real has also been approached two other times with
tapes that were less solid—and one of them was transparently fake.

So intelligence agencies have been approached by people trying to push fake tapes on them, obvious fakes at that.

It’s obvious to savvy Western counterspies that someone is spreading fake Trump tapes—not all of them high quality—to muddy the waters. The
obvious suspect, of course, is the Kremlin. Since the Russians know all about President Trump’s decades of personal antics, including what
kompromat exists on him, they appear to be pushing dubious and unverifiable tapes, some of them obviously fake, to create chaos and
confusion.

Right up Russia's M.O. since even back to the Cold War days. Create and sow chaos and disorder covertly:

A half-century ago, the Kremlin dispatched multiple dangles and even a fake KGB defector to Washington to confuse American counterspies and, above
all, to protect their real moles in our nation’s capital. It worked like a charm. The resulting confusion birthed Angleton’s vaunted
“wilderness of mirrors,” and eventually it drove that brilliant and seasoned counterspy over the edge, never to return.

Okay, your proof is? Or are you a sheeple for the media? There is no tape, face it you are being lied to. This is dangerous, this could be done to
Democrats in office too. Don't you see this rises above politics!?

Still you don't have proof to back up your grandiose claim. I'm betting that video NEVER surfaces. It doesn't exist or Hillary or George Soros would
have released it, instead of losing Billions in the campaign. Anyway. lets stay on topic and discuss the impact of this technology for both parties.
Maybe this technology was already used in the recent election?

I'm registered IND and didn't vote in the last pres election. Not a die hard Trump supporter but I always support the active POTUS to a degree, and
wish the best for and from them. I also call b.s. when I see or hear it.

In your opinion what has Trump done to warrant impeachment other than piss a bunch of people off?

You cannot impeach someone because you don't like them or disagree with them, and surely not because they legally exercised right to free speech.

Yes, it could, but so far manipulating a man's face at a desk isn't the same thing as putting his face on a body in a hotel room.

There are other ways to verify the authenticity of a tape. Every camera leaves behind forensic information, similar to EXIF data for still digital
photos.

Also, you could authenticate a video with other means, from the article:

After all, with multiple fakes out there, any bona fide tape would require not just rock-solid technical authentication, but also firming up the
exact place and date of the incident, plus confirmation from the girl(s) caught on camera too.

You ought to follow Seth Abramson on twitter...

The picture about what happened around the date/time the videos were supposedly shot is coming into better focus. If we can verify the people, place,
date/time of when the video was shot, complete with witnesses willing to talk about what happened, we can pretty much conclude that the tape is
real:

The 'Raw Story' has been written ambiguously.
You'll notice how the mention of fakes and forgeries are not Homogeneously linked to anything that any secret service tape they might actually
have, when the tale mentions, these tapes 'these tapes' is just a premise that bad tapes exist, and it could just as well be Barney Rubble
who is being talked about.

The only thing of any import, is that there is a mention of at least one tape that is genuine..that somebody has...whoever that is, while it is not a
pee pee tape.
So, in a nutshell, the secret services 'copies' could all be genuine...since they are given as copies.

Plus there is the inclusion that Schindler is 'highly skeptical of the Steele dossier mention later on in the tale, as all the western spies are in
regard to a pee pee tape, yet we know how weird people some can be, so there is no precedent to be skeptical.

The reality is that the Steele Dossier has been confirmed in many of the areas it covers, so it really doesn't matter or need, any salacious addendum
anyway.
The only thing to consider is if the dossier was meant to be publicised when it was..without any Pee Pee tape.
You can see how it works, you could argue about that to infinity. Best idea, is to ask Schindler what he did say.

Still you don't have proof to back up your grandiose claim. I'm betting that video NEVER surfaces. It doesn't exist or Hillary or George Soros would
have released it, instead of losing Billions in the campaign. Anyway. lets stay on topic and discuss the impact of this technology for both parties.
Maybe this technology was already used in the recent election?

Do you honestly think that the CIA and MI6 are somehow controlled by Soros and Clinton? Because if so, that's kind of funny )))

You still haven't shown any evidence to back up your claims. I've shown evidence by videos and links to back up my point.

What you've posted are two videos people have already seen (VoCo is a few years old, the other video thing even older and has been mentioned on ATS
before) and some obviously fake videos thrown at as red herrings.

FYI, Adobe VoCo isn't available to anyone, it's an internal project and hasn't even been released as a beta to anyone outside the development lab. It
was shown to boost investor confidence in Adobe's ability to innovate.

I think readers will see that I've shown more evidence in this thread than you, and I'm not even the one who raised the topic in the first place! )))

This content community relies on user-generated content from our member contributors. The opinions of our members are not those of site ownership who maintains strict editorial agnosticism and simply provides a collaborative venue for free expression.