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Lets see... 3.31 ERA overall, 134 ERA+. On his OWN TEAM you have Jhoulys Chacin who has a better ERA+ (144) and has thrown more innings (183 1/3 vs 165 2/3). He is having a fine year, but Cy Young? No.

Yeah. De la Rosa has had a terrific season that deserves recognition, and is a great story in that he's coming back from missing a year and a half after TJ surgery. But unfortunately, the only manner in which these conversations tend to take place is in the context of postseason awards.

The front end of the Rockies rotation, with de la Rosa, Chacin and Chatwood, is in very good shape. Too bad they can't find a fifth starter who would be a decent AAA pitcher.

I came in here to make the same point as #1. Good season, not even the best one on his own team.

Also, man, the Rockies must have it rough to have 2 ace pitching seasons and still not even sniff the playoffs. Heck, they've gotten average SP from Nicasio (95 ERA+) and Chatwood has been excellent in about 100 innings. And on top of that they've scored the 2nd most runs in the NL. Yeesh.

Yeah. De la Rosa has had a terrific season that deserves recognition, and is a great story in that he's coming back from missing a year and a half after TJ surgery.

Agreed. If you go into this article with the thought that there's no way he's better than Kershaw so the entire premise of this article is stupid you're missing the point. The point is that he's having a very good year and not a lot of people probably know about it. I sure didn't.

The point is that he's having a very good year and not a lot of people probably know about it. I sure didn't.

If that was the point, then he should have said that. Instead, he said something really stupid -- so stupid that the point he presumably intended to make got lost in the shuffle. And criticizing him for it is fair game.

It's possible to praise somebody's performance without going off your rocker and claiming they should win the Cy Young or MVP.

I think Ringolsby covers the Rockies or something and just wants to give a shout out here. He's not advocating actually giving him the award, just to acknowledge he might be worthy of some down ballot votes.

Thumbs up on the platypus, vaginas and the way a sunset's light shimmers off the water when the wind picks up just enough to crest the waves on the ocean. Keep up the good work!

As I've said in other threads, I totally get why people peg stuff to awards discussions. That said, I supposed you'd be a lot less open to criticism if you said something more like:

"Hey, I bet you wouldn't have guessed in a million years that X guy could show up on some ballots for Y award. But we're down to a couple weeks left in the season and he's got a pretty reasonable case for being in the pack. Sure he's not as good as A or B or C, but he's not actually all that far behind. That's pretty impressive!"

But yeah, the generous assumption is that people basically mean this when they write columns like this.

Gomes has basically supplanted Santana as the starting Catcher. I wonder when they will move Santana out from catcher permanently.

Another way to go would be to trade high on Gomes. A bit bold perhaps, especially since Santana has always seemed like more of a DH than a catcher. The emergence of Gomes seems to fit in nearly. But perhaps a team out there is squinting enough to see a middle-class man's Buster Posey.

I would hold onto both of them, mix & match with C and 1B - maybe they can both play 160 games if you juggle it properly.

Yeah I suppose it's not a "problem" as it stands now. Kind of like the Twins flipping Mauer and Doumit between C and DH. Except with a much better version of Doumit. It's not like relegating Giambi to the bench is hurting the team.

My, how times have changed. If someone had put up numbers like this a decade ago at Coors, I might have agreed that the performance was transcendant...mainly because absolutely no one could put up numbers like that at Coors Field a decade ago when the park was in full effect.

Greg Maddux had a career ERA of 5.19 at Coors, and he was the most extreme groundball pitcher in the league, the one least likely to be hurt by the park. It was almost impossible BITD to get consistently good pitching there.

I guess the humidor has really changed things more than I thought if pitchers can put up these kind of numbers nowadays.

I guess the humidor has really changed things more than I thought if pitchers can put up these kind of numbers nowadays.

The humidor has changed things, but not that much. Coors Field is still the best hitters' park in captivity, by a wide margin.

What has changed far more than the humidor effect is the league-wide run environment. Run scoring NL-wide and MLB-wide is nothing close to what it was 10 years ago, let alone at the 1999-2000 scoring peak. Run scoring in 2013 is well below the long-term historical norm; it's just about equivalent to the levels of the very early 1980s.