1. We didn’t choose to be lesbian. We didn’t have to get some surgery or hormone treatment.
2. There’s nothing wrong with lesbianism while there is something wrong with pretending to be another gender when you can never truly be it.

To demand rights and respect for one non-normative group and then show so little respect for another, disrespecting them so much… How sad that your assumed openmindedness only reaches as far as your nose is long.

Gender is female and male, it’s the gender you were assigned. No matter what you do nothing can change that.I don’t mind androgyny or crossdressing, but mutilating your body because you feel a certain way and are so depressed you can’t be happy unless you attempt to change it is wrong.

I demand rights and respect for homosexuals and bisexuals because
1. We didn’t choose to be this way
2. We’re not harming our bodies by being homosexual and bisexual
3. There’s nothing wrong with being homosexual or bisexual
4. I’m not pretending to be lesbian, while Miss Canada contestant Jenna for example is pretending to be a woman

I don’t think you understand gender. There is a difference between gender and sex. Sex is physical, gender is social. Certain traits are female or male, yet they are not created by chromosones.
No one chooses to be trans either. It’s not a bit of fun, it’s a long, expensive, hard process.
Please refrain from your bigotry in future, it lets us all down.

But yes, they choose to go out and get an operation and hormones, they choose to lie about their gender on their license etc.
They make the choice to insult their natural gender- it’s a very horrible thing to do

Wow, I’m always surprised how the LGB can turn against the T so harshly.
We transwomen are women. We are not pretending and I seriously wonder why you harbour such hatred towards us; “disgusting”, really?
We are not lying about our Gender we are simply being honest about it. We don’t choose this any more than a lesbian chooses to be attracted to women.
Yes some of us work to change our physical Sex, but that is completely secondary to our identities. There have been transgender people far longer than there have been surgeries or hormones.
Some of us hide the fact that we are transgender but others of us announce it proudly, Jenna didn’t hide her past and this is the reaction she gets?
And please, there is a big distinction between Gender and Sex; figure it out.

1. You’re not women. You have the male body and male DNA originally, that makes you male
2. You choose to get the hormones and operation, while I don’t choose to be attracted to women
3. If there were transpeople long before surgeries and hormones that goes to show they were fine without them
4. You’re lying by changing your real gender to your “new” gender on your license, etc
5. Yes, it’s disgusting to attempt to change your real gender, and it’s also sad. You should be happy with your real gender

For goodness sake, Lumi, that’s EXACTLY what the Christian fundies say when claiming the moral high ground for themselves. Don’t you realise that you’re as bad as they are. Worse, even. Because you KNOW what it’s like to be picked on for what you are, but you are happy to be so viciously nasty to transgender people. You are WRONG, And by acting like this you’re losing the respect of people on this site who would support you in all other repects.

“No it’s not, because being homophobic is being against something that’s not wrong and isn’t a choice, while being transphobic is being against something that’s wrong and a choice”

Who elected you to set the boundaries of what is right and wrong? I have never seen such a cear definition of a bigot. You are absolutely disgusting and so is everyone who uses such a short measure of compassion as that.

I’m a feminist and I don’t see why women would want to compete in any pageants. It’s basically saying “You have to wear lots of makeup and get a lot of work done to be pretty”. I also don’t find the beauty pageant women to be attractive (the majority of the time), give me an athlete with some curves any day haha!

Ignore the stupid, bigoted lesbian in the corner, she not only shows a lack of knowledge of trans issues, but also an unwillingness to learn.
She has made up her mind, now let us cast her off to the religious fundies who will clearly understand that she didn’t choose to be a lesbian, and will certainly not persecute her for it.

“We want to give credit where credit is due, and the decision to include transgender women in our beauty competitions is a result of our ongoing discussions with GLAAD and not Jenna’s legal representation, which if anything, delayed the process.”

What a crock. They would have done NOTHING if she hadn’t consulted a lawyer. And I still don’t trust that snake Donald Trump.

I still don’t trust Donald Trump as far as I can throw him (he’s homophobic as well as bigoted towards trans people), but at least something has been done about this injustice. Jenna sounds like a really sweet lady and it was completely unfair discrimination against her. It’s great that GLAAD stepped in to help her. I personally don’t see what’s so good about pageants like this, but if women want to do them then I’m not gonna stop them. That’s what feminism is supposed to be about, right? Besides ending misogyny and sexism, of course. I thought it was about giving everybody who identifies as a woman (and that INCLUDES transgender women!) the choice to do whatever they want in life without being hindered or oppressed?
Oh, and speaking of feminism, Lumi Bast, just go back to the transphobic second-wave radfem group you so obviously belong to.

I knew the transphobes would be out in force over this article. What should be a positive story about the acceptance of transwomen has turned into a hatefest yet again. The really strange thing I find is that these transphobes are obsessed over transwomen…they can’t resist sharing their bigotry anytime there is an article about transwomen, especially a positive one.

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