You people have gotten religion and science all mixed up, the way the bible describes the creation myth is the way people thought back then, before they even had all the scientific information we have now.

then again… the bible uses a heck of a whole lot of metaphors that can easily be applied in science. :)

This is typical Western thinking. “Everyone is a savage except us! we made the world as it is!!! Blargh!!!”

No one claims to have made the world but the bigot, yours truly, Jesus Christ.

Please note that the pirates in Somalia are making a freakishly large ammount of money with little risk to their own lives? they have freakin RPGs and machine guns, and can easily over-power any unarmed cargo ship out there and don’t need to fire a shot.

They only make that absurd amount of money because people are stupid enough to pay the ransom.

Yes,and if the United States wanted to Invade china, that problem would not be a problem.

False, China has one of the largest populations in the world, and near the top amount of trained troops. An American invasion of China would allow China to heavily defend their country by concentrating their troops in their homeland, where they know the lay of the land.

Don’t edit your posts… it’s annoying…

anyhow, about china…

Cannon fodder and banzai rush-attacks. the united states has something called Nukes also… so.. :3

Aaaaaaand they pay the ransom becasue the only other alternatives is military action, or letting innocent people die.

If you can’t take military action, then let them die, because I find 40 million to be a drastic amount to part with to save a few lives.

Seriously, though… cargo ships are 99% of the time unarmed. we are talking about tankers here with NO GUNS, and at MOST an ILLEGAL pistol on board.

I sense some potential changes to be made, wink wink.

No. I mean culture. Western civilization as we know it has always thought of itself as the creator of the modern world. the seam engine was actually first invented in china. gunpowder, everything in one form of another that did not run off of electricity was first made in the east.

Also, would you have 15 innocents die, get bad publicity, and pay millions in damage control, or kill several pirates and look good?

You should. Let us try to arm this ships! that’s what I said in my first post!

This is typical Western thinking. “Everyone is a savage except us! we made the world as it is!!! Blargh!!!”

No one claims to have made the world but the bigot, yours truly, Jesus Christ.

Please note that the pirates in Somalia are making a freakishly large ammount of money with little risk to their own lives? they have freakin RPGs and machine guns, and can easily over-power any unarmed cargo ship out there and don’t need to fire a shot.

They only make that absurd amount of money because people are stupid enough to pay the ransom.

And so does islam, and every major culture out there. your point?

Aaaaaaand they pay the ransom becasue the only other alternatives is military action, or letting innocent people die.

While it is easy in some ways, they risk their life every day. Every single kidnap attempt could end up with their entire ship sunk. And note that not everyone is about to pay you to spare one measly live.

Seriously, though… cargo ships are 99% of the time unarmed. we are talking about tankers here with NO GUNS, and at MOST an ILLEGAL pistol on board.

you call THAT risking their lives?

you are aware 3 somali pirates died

3 navy snipers… on a destroyer I think it was… they were on a different ship

While it is easy in some ways, they risk their life every day. Every single kidnap attempt could end up with their entire ship sunk. And note that not everyone is about to pay you to spare one measly live.

Seriously, though… cargo ships are 99% of the time unarmed. we are talking about tankers here with NO GUNS, and at MOST an ILLEGAL pistol on board.

This is typical Western thinking. “Everyone is a savage except us! we made the world as it is!!! Blargh!!!”

By western, meaning the United States AND Europe as a whole.

Please note that the pirates in Somalia are making a freakishly large ammount of money with little risk to their own lives? they have freakin RPGs and machine guns, and can easily over-power any unarmed cargo ship out there and don’t need to fire a shot.

Teach them that piracy does not pay if you come across a ship of the united states.

You sound like exactly like the stereotype of an ignorant American.

Thing is, pirates are pirates because it is easy. make it difficult, and life will always find a way.

Being a pirate is…easy? You are sadly mistaken…

First off, would you attack an unarmed french ship, or a heavily armed american ship? your choice.

Also, being a pirate IS easy. compared to a lot of other things.

If you had the choice to make 40 million dollars a week by stealing cargo, holding the unarmed crew ransom,and so on. would you take it? It is easy money, that 40 million dollars… that is… compared to making that 40 million legitimately

Yeah yeah… why don’t we show them it is easier to farm for a living then steal.

And the statistics are debatable. billions lost in cargo alone. If I was wrong about ransoms, switch the word ransom with cargo, and you got an economic crisis on your hands. :D

well maybe, if the amount of cargo totals up to billions the i’d agree, any sources on this though?

Thing is, pirates are pirates because it is easy. make it difficult, and life will always find a way.

Teach them that piracy does not pay if you come across a ship of the united states. Arm the ships! give every man a shotgun and you will have a very quick drop in hijacked American ships. Second amendment, baby! Learn to love it!

But they are only turning to piracy BECAUSE of us, stopping them fishing, dumping nuclear waste etc. As I said watch the video I posted.

Thankfully I’m not american and don’t live in a nation that has a childlike obsession for guns.

Look, Americans so not dump their nuclear waste in Somalia. that’s other countries.

Second, Americans do not fish in Somalia. Other countries do.

Thirdly, our obsession with guns has scared every country out there from attacking us on our home soil in frontal attacks. not to mention there is virtually no piracy in American waters. :D

Alright, I believe in God, and I can comfortably believe in evolution. why?

God created life as we know it how? why, by starting small and working his way up!

Also, didn’t the genome project uncover the interesting fact that we all came from one specific woman? correct me if I am wrong…

Now, the Theory of evolution is just a theory, and it cannot be considered fact just yet.

You cannot disprove the validity of the bible, as you cannot disprove the validity of evolution. If god does not exist, it would not matter. The Bible has a lot of stuff called: Moral/ethical codes such as “DO NOTKILL, DO NOTSTEAL, ETC.” these things are valuable and agreed upon by every major culture out there. universal things.

Also, the Bible is a very useful historical record. Anyone who knows history (truly in-depth) understands the value of the bible as a record of “who was where and when they got there.” every battle played out in the bible has tactics that can easily be applied in modern combat, and shows the kind of mind-set that those people had back when it was written.

It’s an amazing thing, the Bible. Christians all over have one of the most valuable historical texts in their possessions.

And Even if the story of Adam and Eve is not true, that doesn’t change the fact that it teaches a few very clear morals. “Do not give into temptation, becasue sometimes things are not as good as they at first appear to be” “Be honest” “take responsibility for your own actions and not try to push the blame on someone else”

Those stories are quite universal, as just about every culture has at least one of each.

So… after this rant, I can conclude that religion, science, whathaveyou has no real conflict, because even when one is disproved to a point, they are no less valuable.

Scientific theories are disproved every day, but that only makes science better with time. :D

Yeah yeah… why don’t we show them it is easier to farm for a living then steal.

And the statistics are debatable. billions lost in cargo alone. If I was wrong about ransoms, switch the word ransom with cargo, and you got an economic crisis on your hands. :D

Thing is, pirates are pirates because it is easy. make it difficult, and life will always find a way.

Teach them that piracy does not pay if you come across a ship of the united states. Arm the ships! give every man a shotgun and you will have a very quick drop in hijacked American ships. Second amendment, baby! Learn to love it!

I believe in God, and I believe that there is life out there. Maybe not intelligent, but a dog is intelligent, so… whatever floats your boat, then…

the universe was made by God for man to explore. it is statistically impossible not to come across another planet that supports life, and why would my caring/loving god make a universe of nothing but wasteland planets? Why not toss in a 5 star resort in along with the unforgiving cold?

Personally, I find that science is a very good way of understanding what God created for all of us. Where we can go, where we should not go, everything has a function. We have fun playing in this massive infinite sandbox that is the universe, and when we die, we look back and say: “That was fun! It kinda hurt when I burnt to death in that star, but it was worth it!”

You know, piracy is not a new problem, and Somalia is not a new problem.

The United States has been paying ransoms for well over 100 years. With the exception of Teddy, and some other presidents, and a few select incidents…

thing is, dozens of ships are hijacked off the coast of Somalia every month. just about every single one of them are unarmed. the ones that are armed are usually armed with things such as handgun (note the lack of the plural s) catch my drift?

unarmed merchant vessels + pirates = easy picking for pirates and billions of dollars down the toilet every year.

The only way pirates can be dealt with, is through military force/action. the only other way is to pay them tribute every year, and hope they stay honest with you and not attack your ships… which means that your ships will be attacked anyways and the money you gave them is now not yours.

Pirates do what they do because it is EASY.

Even savages do not attack ships with boom sticks of such large size and power that they not dare approach it. remember that American cruiser attacked by pirates a while ago? The United States held back and tried their best NOT to sink the ship… becasue slaughter is bad publicity.

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