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Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by Zato

Sorry but you do. Its symbolic why you need both to gain the 3rd power. When are people going to realize that most of Uchiha's abilities are related to Japanese mythology??? What did Itachi say about Izanagi? He said that Izanami and Izanagi are a matching pair. Susanoo is the 3rd child of Izanagi and Izanami. Amateratsu is the 1st child and Tsukuyomi is the 2nd. I swear people on NB can be some of the slowest people ever. Something that directly related and people try to say otherwise is just sad... Susanoo, Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi are matching pairs just like Izanagi and Izanami! They are directly related to each other, just like the story of Susanoo and him defeating the 8 headed serpent(Orochimaru)...

Tobi him self states that he wanted Sasuke because a sharigan that can gain even the Susanoo is a rarity. This means that there are special requirements outside of just gaining the MS to gain Susanoo. Which are obviously Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi. Danzo states to Sasuke that even though Sasuke has the same powers as Itachi, he was no where near on his level.

izanagi is only for those who posses senju and uchiha cells together... it was originally use by sage of six paths... thats why the ones who can performs it , the sage of six paths, danzo, obito.... this is the proof

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by BudakPurba

izanagi is only for those who posses senju and uchiha cells together... it was originally use by sage of six paths... thats why the ones who can performs it , the sage of six paths, danzo, obito.... this is the proof

Sorry but no. What Tobi was saying is that he could manipulate the time length of Izanagi because he had Hashirama's DNA/powers. This is why he said Danzo couldn't replicate what he did because he couldn't control Hashirama's powers. Izanagi does not need Hashirama's powers UNLESS you are a non-Uchiha. This is why Danzo had access to that ability.

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by KidGamer65

Sorry Kishimoto wrote the Databook which says you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu for Susanoo...so you must be saying Kishi's words are rubbish then.

And even then Tobi still needs 2 MS eyes, what's funny is that you are completely blind and fail to see the fact that he 1 MS and 1 Rinnegan...show me scans of Obito having 2 MS then i'll take you seriously.

Madara's eyes are the same because the EMS pattern is the same so that's a fail on your part.

Do you know how MS is activated? You have to kill the one closest to you...Obito has no one close to him anymore so he can't just activate any of those eyes and make them become MS...another fail on your part.

I know he has 2 Sharingan genius...he only has on Mangekyo Sharingan.

Yeah, he used Izanagi with Sharingan, not Rinnegan.

Might want to do some more research before making yourself look like a fool.

the books is back dated... now kishi is making story not totally basis in the past facts.. u can see now that there a some facts that different from the previous chapter... same with the kakashi MS awaken.. it show that it was awaken when they are young but...kakashi only show it when fighting madara... so the facts that MS awaken when kakashi killed rin is just a new made ...

and then if really needs to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi to activate susanoo.. does sasuke shows u that he uses amaterasu and tsukuyomi first then activate susanoo... NO!!! he just use the susanoo... the questions here is not just does Obito has susanoo or not... it also does Obito has tsukuyomi and amaterasu or not? ... Madara also uses susano without using the tsukuyomi and amaterasu.. u cant just say that he cant susanoo or amaterasu or tsukuyomi because u didnt see he using it yet...

ok the rinnegan... how to awake rinnegan? .. tells me... from MS > rinnegan... so who eyes is it.. Madara? .. it only a pair which given to young nagato... so how about the rest Pain.. who eyes is it... 6 pairs.. i doubtly that madara gives them all... its obito ho has to do the awakening the sharingan eyes...

he not using the MS in both of his eyes because he needs to control the bijuu ... so he use one MS and one rinnegan... and that rinngean is needed to control edo mazo...

he has a lot of sharingan collections... maybe there are a few in his possession is already in MS mode... because he never worried about internal darkness... Why?.. because he already has the internal MS... thats why he didnt bother his eyes with kakashi...

it is obvious to not gaining the highest power before starting the war... Obito must realise that to gain Ms in important before start the war... its stupid to let kakashi wondering aroung with his eyes... unless it was not IMPORTANT!!!

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by BudakPurba

the books is back dated... now kishi is making story not totally basis in the past facts.. u can see now that there a some facts that different from the previous chapter... same with the kakashi MS awaken.. it show that it was awaken when they are young but...kakashi only show it when fighting madara... so the facts that MS awaken when kakashi killed rin is just a new made ...

and then if really needs to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi to activate susanoo.. does sasuke shows u that he uses amaterasu and tsukuyomi first then activate susanoo... NO!!! he just use the susanoo... the questions here is not just does Obito has susanoo or not... it also does Obito has tsukuyomi and amaterasu or not? ... Madara also uses susano without using the tsukuyomi and amaterasu.. u cant just say that he cant susanoo or amaterasu or tsukuyomi because u didnt see he using it yet...

ok the rinnegan... how to awake rinnegan? .. tells me... from MS > rinnegan... so who eyes is it.. Madara? .. it only a pair which given to young nagato... so how about the rest Pain.. who eyes is it... 6 pairs.. i doubtly that madara gives them all... its obito ho has to do the awakening the sharingan eyes...

he not using the MS in both of his eyes because he needs to control the bijuu ... so he use one MS and one rinnegan... and that rinngean is needed to control edo mazo...

he has a lot of sharingan collections... maybe there are a few in his possession is already in MS mode... because he never worried about internal darkness... Why?.. because he already has the internal MS... thats why he didnt bother his eyes with kakashi...

it is obvious to not gaining the highest power before starting the war... Obito must realise that to gain Ms in important before start the war... its stupid to let kakashi wondering aroung with his eyes... unless it was not IMPORTANT!!!

Wow all I had to do was read like 3 sentences and know this was a fail post. Sasuke used Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu on Killer Bee...

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by BudakPurba

the books is back dated... now kishi is making story not totally basis in the past facts.. u can see now that there a some facts that different from the previous chapter... same with the kakashi MS awaken.. it show that it was awaken when they are young but...kakashi only show it when fighting madara... so the facts that MS awaken when kakashi killed rin is just a new made ...

and then if really needs to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi to activate susanoo.. does sasuke shows u that he uses amaterasu and tsukuyomi first then activate susanoo... NO!!! he just use the susanoo... the questions here is not just does Obito has susanoo or not... it also does Obito has tsukuyomi and amaterasu or not? ... Madara also uses susano without using the tsukuyomi and amaterasu.. u cant just say that he cant susanoo or amaterasu or tsukuyomi because u didnt see he using it yet...

Databook wasn't outdated when Sasuke got MS...which was a year after it came out. Madara hasn't shown his MS abilities so you can't talk about those for now, Sasuke used Tsukuyomi against Bee and Danzo. Obito has Kamui in his eye not Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. You can only have 1 technique in your eye.

ok the rinnegan... how to awake rinnegan? .. tells me... from MS > rinnegan... so who eyes is it.. Madara? .. it only a pair which given to young nagato... so how about the rest Pain.. who eyes is it... 6 pairs.. i doubtly that madara gives them all... its obito ho has to do the awakening the sharingan eyes...

Exactly genius.....Obito can't use the Sharingan abilities with Rinnegan because he didn't awaken it..Madara did.

he not using the MS in both of his eyes because he needs to control the bijuu ... so he use one MS and one rinnegan... and that rinngean is needed to control edo mazo...

Exactly...that mean he can't use Susanoo...he has no MS in both eyes, he only has one...Kakashi has the other one.

he has a lot of sharingan collections... maybe there are a few in his possession is already in MS mode... because he never worried about internal darkness... Why?.. because he already has the internal MS... thats why he didnt bother his eyes with kakashi..

Now you're making shit up...Obito has 1 MS not EMS.

it

is obvious to not gaining the highest power before starting the war... Obito must realise that to gain Ms in important before start the war... its stupid to let kakashi wondering aroung with his eyes... unless it was not IMPORTANT!!!

Im gonna say this one last time...show me scans that show Obito having more than one MS....oh wait you can't cause he doesn't.

there is only one MS tech in each eye...Obito has Kamui and you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to use Susanoo.

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Rules of having a Susano.
:noc:
1. You need 2 sharingan
2. You must unlock MS
3. You must unlock Amaterasu.
Probably Tobi didnt want a susano, he has collection of sharingans and and make it a MS.. Maybe he just cant.
:shrug:

Re: Obito's Susano'o

it was never stated that you need both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to awaken Susano. Once Ms has been awaken great jutsu are developed in each eye and the third power of the MS is the susano, therefore Obito will need his other eye but not Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Originally Posted by stoneboy

it was never stated that you need both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to awaken Susano. Once Ms has been awaken great jutsu are developed in each eye and the third power of the MS is the susano, therefore Obito will need his other eye but not Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi

Re: Obito's Susano'o

So according to the databook you need both the amaterasu and tsukuyomi to activate susanoo. With respect to Kishimoto's database I would somewhat agree/disagree. So far Madara has yet to use amaterasu but still used Susanoo and a weaker version of tsukuyomi like a ms genjutsu that doesn't manipulate time and space. Sasuke also has a weaker ms genjutsu but stronger amaterasu since he can use blaze release thus creating his Susanoo. Tsukuyomi is a unique ability that so far only Itachi has but a regular amaterasu creating his susanoo. I find that so far 2 ms are required for Susanoo. However tsukuyomi is not required but a form of it like the ms genjutsu would be enough in your definition. Amaterasu has not been proven 100% required until Madara can use it. To conclude whether Obito can or cannot use Susanoo so far, no he can't because he doesn't have 2 ms and has yet to use amaterasu let alone using ms genjutsu. So until future plot changes in the manga Obito cannot use Susanoo.

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Maybe some of you are being idiots on purpose, idk, but seriously....you don't need Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi for Susanoo. All you need is two sharingan MS eye balls....and Obito doesn't , simple as that. So please stop being idiots and saying he needs Tsuku and Amat first, that just show's how little you even know.

Re: Obito's Susano'o

Proof again that you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to use Susano'o. Please start researching before making crazy posts. Obito will need to awaken both abilities to use Susano'o. Also, it is possible to have more than one technique per eye, because sasuke has both Tsukuyomi and Blaze Release in his right eye.