While they are both just 1-2, the Kansas City Chiefs and the Oakland Raiders have been among the cleanest teams in the NFL through the first three weeks of the season.

The Chiefs are tied for the fewest penalties in the NFL with 12 and lead the league in least penalty yardage at 98. The Raiders are fourth in the NFL with 14 penalties and second at 102 penalty yards.

While the Chiefs’ discipline is impressive, the news here is what Oakland is doing. It has long been the league’s least-disciplined team -- and last season set NFL records for penalties and penalty yardages

Discipline was Job One for new coach Dennis Allen and he is succeeding in that area. Kudos to both Allen and Kansas City coach Romeo Crennel for instilling discipline in their teams. That’s a good sign for the future for both clubs.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/48985/chiefs-raiders-avoiding-yellow

Mojo Jojo

09-27-2012, 08:51 AM

Or this shows how bad the replacement refs were.

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 08:53 AM

Or this shows how bad the replacement refs were.

I am wondering the same thing... But hey, I knew the Raiders changed when Big Ben went to the line and started barking to try to get us to jump offsides...

We didn't jump or even flinch so something has changed in Oakland, we always fall for that shit like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football

morphius

09-27-2012, 08:54 AM

Or this shows how bad the replacement refs were.
Or shows how biased the regular refs are...

Hog's Gone Fishin

09-27-2012, 08:56 AM

Raiders and Chiefs have just gotten away with more.

FAX

09-27-2012, 08:57 AM

Or shows how biased the regular refs are...

This, I fear, is closest to the truth.

FAX

CoMoChief

09-27-2012, 08:58 AM

The Chiefs got away with A LOT in last week's game.

Don't expect that to happen very much. Because last week was laughable to be honest.

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 08:58 AM

I just want it back like the good old days when our hard fought games mean something more than bragging rights for a week on a message board..

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 08:59 AM

I wonder if any of those replacement refs took any bribes this season? I mean... Who would know ?

FAX

09-27-2012, 09:07 AM

I just want it back like the good old days when our hard fought games mean something more than bragging rights for a week on a message board..

Although I shudder with revulsion at the concept of conceding a point to a sickeningly abhorrent and mephitically repugnant Faider fan whose hygienic habits are undoubtedly similar to those of the nauseatingly loathsome humpback hairy frog ... I agree.

FAX

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 09:09 AM

Although I shudder with revulsion at the concept of conceding a point to a sickeningly abhorrent and mephitically repugnant Faider fan whose hygienic habits are undoubtedly similar to those of the nauseatingly loathsome humpback hairy frog ... I agree.

FAX

Reported

L.A. Chieffan

09-27-2012, 09:10 AM

Except for Routt, that guy has more flags than the U.N..

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 09:11 AM

Except for Routt, that guy has more flags than the U.N..

When he played for us but hey, your mileage may vary.

FAX

09-27-2012, 09:13 AM

Except for Routt, that guy has more flags than the U.N..

He's actually been playing some pretty good ball, though. I've been a little surprised. I mean, considering the fact that we're 1 and 2 with two blowouts and our only win was against a hapless team with no coach and who would have defeated us soundly had we not been phenomenally lucky and the replacement refs had followed the rules.

FAX

L.A. Chieffan

09-27-2012, 09:15 AM

Nope nope I heard right here for months that Routt sucks. He sucks.

Rausch

09-27-2012, 09:18 AM

Nope nope I heard right here for months that Routt sucks. He sucks.

He did.

Of course here we actually make a point of avoiding penalties (not something the Raiders care about) and only had a respectably-healthy Flowers last week.

So far he's been the Juvie' kid who's making it in the private school.

I'm not sold yet...

CoMoChief

09-27-2012, 09:20 AM

I wonder if any of those replacement refs took any bribes this season? I mean... Who would know ?

Good point....we know nothing about these guys....and they were so bad, that if anyone did do something like that, we'd have no way of knowing.

What was the spread on the MNF game?

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 09:21 AM

He's actually been playing some pretty good ball, though. I've been a little surprised. I mean, considering the fact that we're 1 and 2 with two blowouts and our only win was against a hapless team with no coach and who would have defeated us soundly had we not been phenomenally lucky and the replacement refs had followed the rules.

FAX

I am not gonna bash him on a chiefs forum, the guy has his moments and there is no doubt he is a quality athlete and if Al was still alive he would still be a Raider.

Raiders are chopping the hell out of players that don't fit what Reggie is trying to do here, just yesterday Barksdale was sent packing and we picked up Andre Carter

I am not gonna bash him on a chiefs forum, the guy has his moments and there is no doubt he is a quality athlete and if Al was still alive he would still be a Raider.

Raiders are chopping the hell out of players that don't fit what Reggie is trying to do here, just yesterday Barksdale was sent packing and we picked up Andre Carter

I don't see why you wouldn't bash him, Mr. R8ers. Chiefs fans haven't exactly been reluctant to point out the failings of our own players. As you can see, there is trouble in river city.

As for Routt, personally I know absolutely nothing about him other than what I learned on this board which was, essentially, that he drew a ton of flags while he was with the Faid. So, if you have insight or an opinion, I hope you'll share it with the group.

Oh, and just what exactly is it that Reggie is trying to do there? Other than bring in a hair stylist to give Mark a makeover.

FAX

Detoxing

09-27-2012, 10:01 AM

I wonder if any of those replacement refs took any bribes this season? I mean... Who would know ?

Not from the Chiefs they didn't. Clark is too cheap.

Rausch

09-27-2012, 10:02 AM

Not from the Chiefs they didn't. Clark is too cheap.

He's on the "down low."

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 10:04 AM

I don't see why you wouldn't bash him, Mr. R8ers. Chiefs fans haven't exactly been reluctant to point out the failings of our own players. As you can see, there is trouble in river city.

As for Routt, personally I know absolutely nothing about him other than what I learned on this board which was, essentially, that he drew a ton of flags while he was with the Faid. So, if you have insight or an opinion, I hope you'll share it with the group.

Oh, and just what exactly is it that Reggie is trying to do there? Other than bring in a hair stylist to give Mark a makeover.

FAX

We always raised hell that Routt was never in the right place and when he was in the right place he got excited and committed PI, We referred to him as Toast ... As I said, your results may vary and maybe your DC and DB coordinators can figure him out...

Mark and Chewbacca are not the most glamorous pair in the NFL and I will tell you right now Mark is 100% hands off, does not know anything about football but Reggie does and he is going to be the GM that will get quality from his picks, he will pick the way winning teams pick and that way is picking talent from the later rounds, finding those gems. It may take this team a couple of years but everything you remember about the Raiders, forget about it, even when they were good... Forget about it... 40 times are not the #1 thing anymore and there are no longer scholarships at Oakland, you will perform or you will be replaced.

A Salt Weapon

09-27-2012, 11:08 AM

Or shows how biased the regular refs are...

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mr. tegu

09-27-2012, 11:13 AM

Good point....we know nothing about these guys....and they were so bad, that if anyone did do something like that, we'd have no way of knowing.

What was the spread on the MNF game?

-3 Packers.

FAX

09-27-2012, 11:31 AM

We always raised hell that Routt was never in the right place and when he was in the right place he got excited and committed PI, We referred to him as Toast ... As I said, your results may vary and maybe your DC and DB coordinators can figure him out...

Mark and Chewbacca are not the most glamorous pair in the NFL and I will tell you right now Mark is 100% hands off, does not know anything about football but Reggie does and he is going to be the GM that will get quality from his picks, he will pick the way winning teams pick and that way is picking talent from the later rounds, finding those gems. It may take this team a couple of years but everything you remember about the Raiders, forget about it, even when they were good... Forget about it... 40 times are not the #1 thing anymore and there are no longer scholarships at Oakland, you will perform or you will be replaced.

Surprisingly, I'm actually reasonably happy that you guys are finally getting your act together (to the extent you do), Mr. R8ers. It would be sooooo nice to have both teams back among the league elite. We, the team of goodness and uprightness and fair play and sportsmanship and you, the team of cheating and fouls and representing all that is vile, vulgar, filthy, and fetid. Plus, we receive the additional benefit of watching you pulverize the goats and sandy eggo which helps us out.

It must have been like Bonanza in pads back then and it will be great to return to those thrilling days of yesteryear. Back to the glorious and sublime Sundays when the country watched good triumph over evil ... when good sent evil home humiliated with tears running down evil's face ... and good watched as evil call evil's mommy to complain because evil couldn't even win by cheating.

FAX

R8RFAN

09-27-2012, 11:56 AM

Surprisingly, I'm actually reasonably happy that you guys are finally getting your act together (to the extent you do), Mr. R8ers. It would be sooooo nice to have both teams back among the league elite. We, the team of goodness and uprightness and fair play and sportsmanship and you, the team of cheating and fouls and representing all that is vile, vulgar, filthy, and fetid. Plus, we receive the additional benefit of watching you pulverize the goats and sandy eggo which helps us out.

It must have been like Bonanza in pads back then and it will be great to return to those thrilling days of yesteryear. Back to the glorious and sublime Sundays when the country watched good triumph over evil ... when good sent evil home humiliated with tears running down evil's face ... and good watched as evil call evil's mommy to complain because evil couldn't even win by cheating.

FAX

I am this close to reporting your ass again.

Mr. Laz

09-27-2012, 12:03 PM

Or shows how biased the regular refs are....

HemiEd

09-27-2012, 12:05 PM

Or this shows how bad the replacement refs were.

thread over

whoman69

09-27-2012, 12:08 PM

If penalties actually had anything to do with winning this might mean something. Both teams are 1-2. Raiders were one of the most penalized teams when they were good and bad.

Flachief58

09-27-2012, 02:04 PM

It's a shame that the Chiefs seem to be avoiding the endzone as well. Fuck the gayders, they can rot in hell

Pasta Giant Meatball

09-27-2012, 02:43 PM

Or shows how biased the regular refs are...

THIS. It'll be back to normal this week though. Can't wait to get fucked.

Pasta Giant Meatball

09-27-2012, 02:44 PM

When he played for us but hey, your mileage may vary.

Routt's been a solid player in KC as I thought he'd be. He only got all those flags in Oakland because that was the Raider Way.

Jiu Jitsu Jon

09-28-2012, 10:39 PM

Routt's been a solid player in KC as I thought he'd be. He only got all those flags in Oakland because that was the Raider Way.

You're right, it WAS the Raider way, unfortunately. There's a new sheriff in town however, and he won't put up with that crap.

Ugly Duck

09-29-2012, 04:41 AM

Raiders are chopping the hell out of players that don't fit what Reggie is trying to do here, just yesterday Barksdale was sent packing and we picked up Andre Carter

Andre Carter ain't what he used to be. He only had 10 sacks last season. Thats less than Hali, but more than Dumberville. Still... he's damn good depth at DE for us.....