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Friday, June 27, 2014

Keiko Kitagawa to be turned into the scapegoat if KimuTaku's HERO flops? (TouSpo)

1: 声なき声に力を ★＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:05:38.32 ID:???0.net

Actress Keiko Kitagawa (27) will be appearing as the heroine in Fuji TV's new Monday-9 drama HERO which will start on July 14.Takako Matsu previously played the role of the leading lady in HERO, where Takuya Kimura (41) plays an unorthodox prosecutor, in both the 2001 series and the 2007 movie, but passes on the title to Kitagawa this time around."Kimura and Kitagawa have already been together in a Monday-9 drama 4 years ago, in Tsuki no Koibito, so they're already familiar with each other. Kitagawa said that she didn't watch too much TV 13 years ago because she was busy with her high school entrance exam studies, but watched HERO religiously. She's actually happy to be part of this production." - (Fuji TV staff)But there are also some concerns about this, as her previous project Akumu-chan The Mu-vie was a huge flop."One of the biggest reasons for this is that it got crushed by the mega hit Frozen. Despite all the efforts they put into promoting the movie by casting Momoioro Clover and making Keiko Kitagawa join them in a time-exclusive unit "Kimo-Kuro Z", the movie still didn't do too well. Though you still cannot deny that Frozen had a hand in the results, Kitagawa has now been branded as 'an actress who cannot make people come see her at the movie house'." - (movie industry insider)Kitagawa has already emerged into a star from her generation of young actresses, and is said that she potentially has 8.3% of ratings with her. But she was at 10.5% a year ago, so there's also this feeling that she's already past her prime."Actually, other TV networks and competing agencies are kinda hoping that Kitagawa brings with her that 'bad luck' of her flopped movie when she does HERO." - (showbiz production representative)And it is also said that this drama with KimuTaku will have bearing on Kitagawa's future."Even Kimutaku, Mr. Ratings himself, hasn't been able to get the numbers recently. His drama Ando Lloyd on TBS last year averaged 12.78%. This is a remake of a mega hit drama, so the passing mark will be about 18%." And if this drama flops, there's the danger that Kitagawa will be turned into the scapegoat."They say that this is the reason why Takako Matsu turned down the role, but it's not a rarity where they blame the actress when KimuTaku and other Johnny's talents dramas have bad ratings. When this doesn't do well, we can already see how people will start saying 'If only Matsu played the role instead...'. Kitagawa's actually been placed in a pretty tight spot."Will they be able to produce a hit that has the ability to do away with all these doubts and concerns? People will now switch focus to Kitagawa's acting, as well as the drama's ratings.

売れっ子だからだろ。こんな泥船に乗っても仕方ない。 Precisely because she's hot property right now. It won't help her career at all even if she boards this sinking ship.

123 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:47:02.03 ID:xrjYWr8N0.net

>>16

キムタクと身長が釣り合わないからNG。 No good since her height doesn't match well next to KimuTaku.

19 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:12:24.11 ID:gN1TU1t50.net

阿部ちゃんは出るの？ Will Abe-chan be in this?

24 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:13:41.72 ID:GWs7xXzw0.net

>>19

出ないNo he won't

20 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:12:35.36 ID:naznteMq0.net

一回り以上年下の女を相手役にするのはもう痛いぞキムタク Hey KimuTaku, having a leading lady that's over a decade younger than you is pitiful

22 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:13:31.04 ID:6TemFOAp0.net

北川はそんなのいいからセラムン20周年にもっと便乗しようず
キムタクとかほっといてさKitagawa shouldn't bother doing this, she should ride the Sailor Moon 20th anniversary bandwagon a bit more and just leave KimuTaku therehttp://trendosamurai.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_590/trendosamurai/ph_05_01-4602a.jpg

26 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:14:12.15 ID:xuslx50ni.net

キムも路線変更して渋いおっさん役とかやればいいのに。
４０超えてアイドルは無いわ。Kimu should change his path and start doing dandy old man roles.
No to idols over 40.

55 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:21:26.76 ID:1ENNEQRC0.net

>>26

そんな事出来たらもうやってるだろ。
何をやってもアレしか出来ないんだよ。木村は。 He would've probably done so if he could.
But Kimura can only do the same thing in whatever he does.

27 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:14:16.54 ID:oAmPTaP/0.net

heroは面白いHero is good

30 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:14:55.63 ID:0fmqJCqY0.net

キムタコがコケてるだろ
そもそもレリゴーとのやりとりがおもろいドラマなのにアホだわ KimuTako's the one who's been flopping.
This drama was fun because of the exchanges between KimuTaku and Rerigo- *(Let It Go---Matsu). Are they stupid?

31 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:15:09.83 ID:PdwRjoC00.net

もうキムタクドラマを見ないと職場で話題に困る時代でもないし、
とっつぁんアイドル見る必要もないしな We're not in an era where we would have trouble relating to conversations at work even if we don't watch KimuTaku's drama, so there's no need to watch daddy idols

33 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:15:27.32 ID:6TemFOAp0.net

キムタクはまた今年も自分があげる側の立場で父の日CMやるの？と思ったらもう父の日終わってたはI was thinking "So will KimuTaku once again be the one who will give the present this year in the Father's Day commercial?" But then I realized that Father's Day has just passed.http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M0mGEzqrNUM/T9xLC4TzZTI/AAAAAAAAK9M/H_a4wIJZo5M/s1600/

35 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:15:59.57 ID:yVY6ZNLt0.net

それは無いわ、どう見ても戦犯はキムタクとフジテレビだろ しかしフジは今旬の松とテルマの阿部を使わないとはセンス無いな Nah, KimuTaku and Fuji Tv will definitely be at fault no matter how you see it. But Fuji really has no sense since they're not using the in-demand Matsu and Abe from Thermae.

65 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:25:13.58 ID:tzNoNzoy0.net

>>35

泥船に乗るのを断られてるだけだろThey just declined to board a sinking ship

37 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:16:52.38 ID:TTZeaoW9O.net

キムタクのせいに出来ない時点で終わってる It's over for them the moment they can't even put the blame on KimuTaku

まあ誰でもHEROなら取るよ あのクオリティーが再現できたらだけどHERO will get the ratings regardless of who's cast.
That's if they can recreate it with the same quality.http://blogs.c.yimg.jp/res/blog-2c-17/makodono0304/folder/661124/93/36401993/img_1?1189325972

42 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:17:25.68 ID:bazuaJa8O.net

ドン滑りはないだろうけど可もなく不可もなくって感じで終わるだろう I don't think that it'll be a major bomb, but I guess that it will just be so-so

45 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:18:52.37 ID:O3lxNA13O.net

コケても「フジだから」で片付くので北川サイドとしても問題ない Even if it flops, people can just say "because it's from Fuji" so no problems for Kitagawa's side

キムタクの視聴率が良かったのって、華麗なる一族あたりが最後？
その後は右肩下がりだっけね。
キムタクドラマは数字が良いとキムタクの功績になり 数字が悪いと共演者と脚本のせいにされんだよなぁ。
キムタク以外の出演、スタッフには旨味がないな。 Was Karei naru ichizoku the last KimuTaku drama that had good ratings?
Then it just went on a decline from there, right?
If KimuTaku's drama ratings are good, it's thanks to KimuTaku.
But if the ratings are bad, the co-stars and the screenplay take the stick.
There's just nothing good out of this for the cast and the staff, everyone except KimuTaku.

52 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:19:58.18 ID:AhkOCH9E0.net

落ち目のフジで１０％取れたら上出来だろ If this gets about 10% from the waning Fuji then you can call it a success

57 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:22:11.84 ID:x+Q2AxWH0.net

前はなんとも思わなかったけど美人ではあるな
スリムなのにボディラインがいい曲線I never really thought anything about her in the past, but she really is pretty.
She's slim, but she's got nice curves on her body line.http://up.gc-img.net/post_img_web/2014/01/be5e49e19f4785c10f02845bd3c46d5e_57.jpeg

60 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:23:26.50 ID:/WX2C41tO.net

松たけ子に逃げられてる時点で終わりだろ。
だいたい破天荒っていうか非常識なだけだが、若いうちはまだいいけど、いつまで経ってもそんなだと現実のキムタクそのまんまで萎えるわ。
ついでに北川と吉高と桐谷はもう見たくない。The moment Takako Matsu avoided this already signalled doom for this.
That eccentric and absurd character was good while he was young, but it's so unappealing if the current KimuTaku would still portray it that way.
And another thing, I don't want to see Kitagawa, Yoshitaka, and Kiritani anymore.

93 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:32:58.37 ID:Mk/U9VG6i.net

>>60

桐谷は出るドラマ全部コケてるからほっといたら消えると思う
吉高は朝ドラヒットしてるしまだまだ出るだろうね All dramas Kiritani's been in have been bombing so I think she'll eventually disappear even if you just let her be. Yoshitaka's morning drama is a hit so I think she'll be having more exposure moving forward.

62 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:24:00.25 ID:D2i0v/0Q0.net

悪夢ちゃん未だ普通に上映しているからはコケてないだろ。
北川と松を比べるより、木村人気の今と昔を比較するだろ。Akumu-chan's still running in cinemas so you can't really call that a flop. And instead of comparing between Kitagawa and Matsu, I think it makes more sense to compare Kimura's popularity then and now.http://auction.thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_aucitem/image3/224/10040224/0330/img0250348756079.jpg

64 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:24:46.07 ID:i3kcZPtD0.net

松たか子がダメなら前回でた綾瀬はるかでよかったのに If Takako Matsu was a no-go then they should've just cast Haruka Ayase who was already there in the previous one

66 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:25:24.72 ID:7N6PBQoq0.net

もう松たか子は、連ドラなんて出ないステイタスだってことだよ It just means that Takako Matsu has achieved a status where she doesn't even have to appear in serial dramas anymore

85 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:30:03.23 ID:GWs7xXzw0.net

>>66

連ドラ出演じゃないけど、１話完結の7月から始まるオヤジの背中に出る She'll be in Oyaji no Senaka which will begin in June. It's not a serial drama as it will just be a story per episode.

79 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:28:35.57 ID:I6t6Sw6ZO.net

松いないとかマジでつまらなそうだな オファー断られたか It looks seriously boring without Matsu.
Did she really decline the offer?

数字が取れないからHEROっていう看板に頼るんだろ？
木村でも北川でもない、制作側の責任だろ And now they come back to rely on the HERO brand just because they've been struggling to get ratings. It's neither Kimura's nor Kitagawa's fault, it's all the producer's responsibility.

71 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:26:11.29 ID:dqseBVq7O.net

北川景子いいよな、写真集買ったわ まあ、このドラマは見ないけど Keiko Kitagawa sure is fine, I bought her photo book.
Well, I won't be watching this drama though.

72 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:26:21.40 ID:w21igMKd0.net

木村まだ月９出てるのかｗ がんばるなぁｗ Wow, Kimura will still be in a Monday-9? w
He's sure hanging in there, huh w

94 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:33:21.41 ID:hDs//QBE0.net

キムタクがどーこーとか、そんなの以前に、月曜日のそんな時間にのんびりテレビ見る時間がある時代じゃないんだよ。
みんなその時間は働いている。バブルの時のように給料が上がるような残業じゃない。潰れないための残業だよ。
会社がつぶれたら次がない、サービス残業だろうとなんだろうと、給料が出るなら働くよ。そんな時代にあほなドラマ作ってんなボケ。 It's not a matter of casting KimuTaku or not, it's just that we're not in an era where people can just sit back, relax, and watch TV on a Monday night anymore. Everyone works at that time. And it's not overtime work so you can have more money like during the bubble economy. They're doing overtime these days so the company won't go bankrupt. Whether people are in the services industry or whatever, people will work as long as there's pay, since there will be no more tomorrow if the company closes. So don't go making dramas at times like these, jerks!

73 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:26:23.99 ID:gk34bupG0.net

昔の第一回見てキムタクが優秀というより警察があまりに馬鹿だったのであきれてみなくなった I remember watching the first episode of the old series and realizing that it wasn't KimuTaku who's good but more like the police were too stupid. I just stopped after that.

80 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:28:37.51 ID:r/GuUgmL0.net

なんで北川が戦犯扱い？
主役は木村なんだから木村の責任だろ Why will Kitagawa be the scapegoat?
Kimura's the lead so it has to be his responsibility.

83 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:29:26.78 ID:UrcwXnEE0.net

やっぱチョマテヨも老けたな
というドラマになるだろう I'm guessing that this will be a drama where we'll all say "Cho mateyo has really gotten old"

89 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:31:58.70 ID:CetLTUk30.net

正直、安堂ロイドは面白すぎた
視聴率など気にせず、股やってほしいｗｗ I honestly thought Ando Lloyd was fun.
I hope they do that again without giving a crap about ratings.

90 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:32:20.93 ID:OpSNk09O0.net

そういえば織田裕二も女優を戦犯扱いしてから見かけなくなったよね Come to think of it, I haven't been seeing Yuji Oda anymore after her leading lady was deemed the scapegoat

95 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:33:27.21 ID:zh6dCAFR0.net

二番煎じ三番煎じのフジテレビ FujiTV, station of rehashes and three-hashes

99 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:36:14.87 ID:C+ZOA+XfO.net

ええええ！！
何で松たかこじゃないの？！
価値ないじゃん！
北川は嫌いじゃないけど Ehhhhh!!
No Takako Matsu!?
Then this is worthless!
Not that I hate Kiatagawa, though.

109 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:40:12.45 ID:iJUHFtEA0.net

コケたらキムタクのせいだけど 北川景子も元々数字持ってない It'll be KimuTaku's fault if it flops, but Keiko Kitagawa never really brings in ratings in the first place

115 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:43:05.27 ID:lbwi/oXjI.net

北川景子の料理屋の時代劇は面白かったな。美人
ヒーローはどうだろうね。初回と最終回が１８％でその他が１５％って感じかな 主題歌が気になるね。Keiko Kitagawa's period flick set in the restaurant was good. She was really pretty there.
I wonder how HERO will turn out. I'm guessing 18% for the first episode and the finale, then everything else will hover around 15%. I'm also curious about the theme song.http://panda-press.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_f31/panda-press/c0046316_20572140.jpg

118 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:43:57.57 ID:ScvggzMO0.net

フジテレビは数字の責任を個人に押しつけるのが好きだな そうじゃなくて社員が無能でセンスもないからだよ Fuji loves to pin all the responsibility on specific individuals for the ratings. That's not how it is, it's all because their employees are talentless and have zero sense.

128 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:48:53.05 ID:kkalvGtD0.net

北川景子は割と賢い子だから何となく旬を過ぎても生き残りそうな気がする Keiko Kitagawa's pretty clever, so I get the feeling that she'll survive in the industry even if she's past her prime

130 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:50:03.42 ID:W3HqnEwI0.net

キムタクと北川だと身長はいいけど顔のサイズ大丈夫？
横に並べるの？KimuTaku and Kitagawa may be a good fit height-wise, but what about the size of their faces? Will they be put together side by side?

131 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:50:17.67 ID:Scv7IShZ0.net

やはり事務所の力関係なんだろうか
川口春奈だって鈴木砂羽とダブル主演だったはずなのに
低視聴率になった全部の責任は川口にあるような報道だったもんね I guess it's really about the strength of one's agency backing him up.
Even in Haruna Kawaguchi's case, she was the co-lead (in Otto no Kanojo) together with Sawa Suzuki, but all the reports pointed to Haruna Kawaguchi and pinned all the blame on her.

悪くても13～14％
良くて18％くらいでしょ。
無難にまとまり、これ以降の
続編無しって感じじゃね Worst case 13~14%
18% tops, probably.
I think it'll be acceptable, but will have no more sequels in the future.

352 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 16:37:04.62 ID:tLWY03WG0.net

木村拓哉で1回も20％超えなかった連ドラは20年間で安堂ロイド1本 Ando Lloyd was the only drama in 20 years where KimuTaku never managed to get above 20% for even 1 episode

140 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:53:39.23 ID:D7NREn7/I.net

松自身は着実に女優として歳を重ねて貫禄も出てきた 老けただけで他は何も変わらないでキムタクのドジな後輩役なんて絵的にも無理あり過ぎ
彼女が出るならキムタクより優秀な検事になってなきゃおかしいから そりゃ出ないでしょ Matsu herself has earned considerable dignity as an actress along with her age.
Just the thought of someone like her still playing the role of KimuTaku's clumsy little kouhai is too much of a stretch.
If she were to be in the drama, it'd all be so weird if she wasn't a prosecutor who's much better than KimuTaku.
How could she be cast in these circumstances?

143 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:54:48.11 ID:22J/9Dju0.net

松たか子遠くへ行っちゃったな Takako Matsu has really become a distant figure

144 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:55:25.23 ID:kkalvGtD0.net

お松は映画主演クラスじゃないと勿体ない女優になってもうたしなあMatsu has turned into an actress where it'll be a waste unless she's the lead of a movie

155 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 13:59:49.04 ID:BGVY+XWu0.net

松たか子と阿部ちゃんは出てほしかったが
37の松と50の阿部ちゃんが前作のキャラを演じるのはきついよな I wanted Takako Matsu and Abe-chan to take part in this, but a 37-y/o and 50-y/o reprising their roles and retaining those personalities will be tough to watch

また長髪に茶色のジャンパー着て若者役やるつもりなのだろうかWill he still try to portray someone younger than his age, with long hair and that brown jumper?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HEKumd-svX0/T6EI_kRc3-I/AAAAAAAAJk8/9D8g3q_HL7E/s1600/1930134739.jpg

171 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 14:09:12.93 ID:oZRwgaMM0.net

映画でいいからキムタクはちゃんとした
悪役やれよKimuTaku should actually be portraying a proper villain, even in a movie

206 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 14:39:32.30 ID:OTjhXeYo0.net

HEROかぁ、悔しいが好きなんだよなぁ。しっかりと作れば平均11％くらいイクだろ
ちょっと今期ドラマが何気に中身が濃い良作がぽつんぽつんあったからなぁ
真面目にしっかり作れば良さげなんじゃね、ネームバリュあるし HERO, huh. Damn, I actually like this franchise. If they just put effort into this, I think it would at least get an average of 11%. There were quite a number of good dramas with rich plots this season. They should just do this diligently. It also has the name value to boot.

244 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 15:03:26.67 ID:9uI6YWvX0.net

阿部寛が出るなら見る I would've watched if Hiroshi Abe was in it

290 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 15:45:07.45 ID:IpPYAiv20.net

キムタクって20年で安堂ロイドだけ15％割ったけど 柴咲のせいになんてされずにキムタクだけ叩かれただけだった 阿部だろ
こけたらヒロインのせいにするのは Ando Lloyd was KimuTaku's only drama in 20 years which got below 15%, but Shibasaki was never blamed, and all the bashing was directed at KimuTaku.
It's actually Abe's camp who blames the heroine when he bombs.

316 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 16:06:00.50 ID:uUZKb9wo0.net

ヒットする訳ないだろうが大コケもしない
初回だけ15％超えるが後は13％付近のつまらない推移だろ I don't think it'll be a hit, but it won't be a massive flop either.
The first episode will probably get over 15%, then will teeter around 13%.

317 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 16:06:09.96 ID:lQR3roWQ0.net

松だけでなく、阿部ちゃん、大塚寧々、勝村、児玉さんもいない
見た目いい人いなくなって、演技派のおっさんばかり
犯人役によっぽどの人が出てこないと、絵面が悪い Not just Matsu, but there's no Abe-chan, Nene Ohtsuka, Katsumura nor Kodama-san.
There's no one who looks good, and it's all these old guys who are just good at acting.
It'll visually look bad unless there's a really good villain.http://ext.pimg.tw/taker/1194642074.jpg

174 ：名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／：2014/06/22(日) 14:10:19.29 ID:xuSmN61J0.net

放送前から戦犯さがしって面白いな I find it amusing how they're already looking for the scapegoat even before the drama starts