Well I havent been to motorco for punk shows because I never hear about any. A few here and there. Im not a street punk oi only punk rock fan. I guess you dont know me well. wasnt trying to hurt anyone's feelings I was just speaking from what I see. Not JUST DTS. All the punk bands I know locally have seen this. Its a reality. But Im glad motorco can get that many people out. Can you tell me the punk bands that draw these people on a weeknight? Also, we have never played motorco because maybe people like you misperceive me as a scene shit talker when all I have tried to do is be nice to everyone and help make things better. Its unfair that you know who I am but you hide behind a fake scene name. Lets talk. Who are you. You think you know me?

This SHOULD be an Indy pick. Both bands are GREAT! Real punk, real rock. Instead Indy gives an Indy pick to an open mic jam. Thats just shitty! DTS has been rocking hard for over 4 years now...the ONLY viable punk band in Durham. Give these guys some credit where it is due. I saw Ill Bill just signed on with Time Again. A heavy weight in the punk rock world. Indy doesnt know good punk if it hit them in the face. Maybe it should! DONT DELETE THIS YOU CENSORING PIGS! Let and allow people to have an opinion!

This SHOULD be an Indy pick. Both bands are GREAT! Real punk, real rock. Instead Indy gives an Indy pick to an open mic jam. Thats just shitty! DTS has been rocking hard for over 4 years now...the ONLY viable punk band in Durham. Give these guys some credit where it is due. I saw Ill Bill just signed on with Time Again. A heavy weight in the punk rock world. Indy doesnt know good punk if it hit them in the face. Maybe it should!

Haha. Obviously that was a teenager. They are right about the 5-10 people shows...like in Durham. That's all ANY local punk band will draw around here. Fact! That's just how large the punk scene is around here. They don't mention our 200 plus person shows. Atlanta, Charlotte, etc. Also, only one of us is 40+. People can have their opinions. I'm unfazed. P.S., I was probably doing this before the author of that comment was even born.
~ILL BILL~

Thanks for the mention Terror. I am the singer/bass player from Dead To Society (Bill) and I agree with you, never heard of these bands (except Double Negative). I also feel punk is NOT dead. I became part of the local scene in 1986 and I have watched the scene grow and reduce but never die. My band feels overlooked many times by local media. It's dead to you because you dont recognize it, write about it, or promote it. Instead you write about bands we will rarely if ever see. I feel there is a viable local scene in the triangle area we just never get mentioned. It's always Indy bands and Granola music getting all the glory. Without punk Indy wouldn't even exist! Indy...DIY...thats the root of punk rock. It may be dead in your eyes but Ive been here in this scene since 1986 and I aint leaving until I die! Im proud of our small scene. We have some great people around here and some damn good punk bands. I should add the we haven't been completely overlooked as Indy has written two great reviews of our two albums. Even though they were very short reviews and no promotion for our CD release shows and hardly ever Indy picked....I guess we have at least been mentioned and Im thankful for that. I also feel Indy and other local media outlets could do a hell of a lot more for our local punk bands as far as publicity. I keep reading about the same old bands time and time again. Boring! Well Dead To Society is on the verge of making some serious waves, even if we have to take some very serious steps (recording in Hollywood California on our own budget) to get there. Dead To Society is here for the long run so recognize us or not we will be here. Punk It Up!!! ~ILL BILL~