Old Mexico Lives Onhttp://www.businessinsider.com/old-mexico-lives-on-2014-2/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:49:41 -0400The Economisthttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eebf01ecad040c7cc77f7chahahaSun, 02 Feb 2014 16:56:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eebf01ecad040c7cc77f7c
you forgot the war they also started (and LOST) with Canada in 1812, you know where the president ran away when the capital was raided and the White house torched, leaving his wife to rescue precious objects from the fire. seems the US has always has to attack somebody to increase their territory.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee7b2deab8ea4a6993d002DevalSun, 02 Feb 2014 12:06:53 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee7b2deab8ea4a6993d002
U.S. immigration only looks different from Canada's because in the U.S. there is a longer history of mass migration waves stemming back to the late 1600s. Canada's immigration history is just as long, but it has a higher concentration of recent immigrants, due to 20th century immigration-friendly policies and a lower base population. So Canada also has a higher overall percentage of recent immigrants, which makes it feel different. What you call "Canadian multiculturalism" is largely just a product of having a large recent immigrant population. Give it another 50-100 years, and your "multicultural" picture will look a little different. These are two different national immigration stories that can't be directly compared, qualitatively speaking.
Furthermore, the Canadian national picture is changing rapidly as the western, oil-rich provinces now exert a greater voice in national policies. The old "liberal," "environmental" Canada is now a thing of the past, as western conservatives are showing more muscle. Even the Anglo-French divide has receded in importance as the "east-west" divide turns more and more into an American-style "red-blue" problem.
As for the U.S. (now replying to others on this thread), we don't exactly have "strong national unity." What we have is a certain ethnic unity (all ethnicities are equally dedicated to a certain sense of national cohesion), but also growing political divisiveness. It's not inconceivable that the red-blue divide will lead to actual successions in the future, for places like Texas. It's an open question what the craziness of the red-blue thing will lead to in the future, since it only appears to be getting stronger every year. It's bizarre (because red-blue is in most regards a fabricated difference), but real.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee77cd6da811fc06698e35JimmineySun, 02 Feb 2014 11:52:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee77cd6da811fc06698e35
"Too much nonsense to reply to"--you gave a title to your own post.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee681e69bedda846698e39Dr GonzoSun, 02 Feb 2014 10:45:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee681e69bedda846698e39
The yanks didn't have UN authorization for the second Iraq War.
Putin worked with German chancellor Schroeder and French President Chirac to veto the UN vote, that led to Rumsfeld calling Germany and France "old Europe" in a press conference the next day, I also remember a line calling the French "cheese eating surrender monkeys". The US went into Iraq without UN permission, paid the price for it, and fled like some previously mentioned "surrender monkeys".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee3b6e69bedda718698e38Alreten1Sun, 02 Feb 2014 07:34:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ee3b6e69bedda718698e38
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More nonsense. We had every right to be in South Vietnam once invited and to reply in kind to aggression from the north. We had a mutual defense treaty with Kuwait which was invaded first (and U.N. authorization both wars -- even if some of them regretted voting for it the second go around).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edf2ea69beddfc4110414cFrank BeekmanSun, 02 Feb 2014 02:25:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edf2ea69beddfc4110414c
Too much nonsense to reply to really. Around here they make $9-14/hr as agricultural laborers and are hardly slaves.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ede3df69bedd100d10414aartful dodgerSun, 02 Feb 2014 01:21:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ede3df69bedd100d10414a
The Mexicans living in 'Old Mexico' today are almost nothing like the 'Rancheros', or the Mexicans who had been living in the area when it became United States territory. First off, the land was hardly populated at all. Second, most mexicans who have come here in the past 30 years all come from the impoverished southern/more indigenous parts of Mexico-- the rancheros were largely Spanish/European in origin and wealthy land owners. Many Mexicans in LA don't even speak Spanish, they speak indigenous languages like Mixtec and others that pre-date the appearance of the Spanish in Mexico.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edda5c6bb3f74e264ad89dJimmineySun, 02 Feb 2014 00:40:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edda5c6bb3f74e264ad89d
Sounds like you call bull on every statistical fact. What I just wrote is pure scientific fact about the racial make-up of the Mexican population. Every encyclopedia entry and every census report will give you the same information.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edcf6eeab8ea3c64104144ianeassonrogerscomSat, 01 Feb 2014 23:54:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edcf6eeab8ea3c64104144
English Canadians (and the federal government), do not merely respect Quebec culture, they bow down to it.
The fact that a minority of Quebecois want to secede has to do with politics, not culture.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edcc4a69beddcb3f104146TwinpinesmallSat, 01 Feb 2014 23:40:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edcc4a69beddcb3f104146
I must concur with wtbirds92.
Now, I'll admit, with a great deal of elbow grease—and a very limited federal government—multiculturalism can not only fly, but soar! In Switzerland, for instance, there are 4 national languages, each spoken in a different part of the country, yet national unity, there, is among the strongest of Earth!
What Canada (and other places, such as Belgium) has, however, is BICULTURALISM. And, just like in Belgium, national unity seems constantly threatened, in Canada, because of it. For better or for worse, America remains strongly united, just like Switzerland, but, unlike them, not because of multiculturalism, but because of a single, all-encompassing way of life.
Unlike some of my conservative friends, I'm all for increasing immigration to America. Heck, as long as immigrants be willing to learn to speak English, publicly observe our Christian holidays, and contribute to our society, let the WHOLE WORLD come here!
Multiculturalism works great in Switzerland, but here in America, it's too late for that. And biculturalism simply doesn't work—anywhere.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edc9566da81169671f97c9TwinpinesmallSat, 01 Feb 2014 23:28:06 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edc9566da81169671f97c9
My good man, Hispanics, right now, constitute 35% of both Texas and California, and 45% of New Mexico.
I dare you to go up to ANY ONE OF THEM, and ask him whether he'd like his state to become part of Mexico, or remain part of America, and see what HE tells you!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edc6a16bb3f750734ad899wtbirds92Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:16:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edc6a16bb3f750734ad899
I guess that explains why Quebec wants to secede from Canada because English Canadians respect French Canadian culture?!!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edbe506da811ac361f97cbRed gypsySat, 01 Feb 2014 22:41:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edbe506da811ac361f97cb
Have to cry bullsh*t on that one numbnutz.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edb339eab8eaf96c10414aRobert123Sat, 01 Feb 2014 21:53:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edb339eab8eaf96c10414a
There are actually people of Mexican decent who dream of the grand, old Mexico - before the "Gringos stole their land". They call it Aztlan.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edaf6a6da81183761f97ccianeassonrogerscomSat, 01 Feb 2014 21:37:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52edaf6a6da81183761f97cc
Ah, the "Melting Pot" ideology, that most Americans support. Everyone must become an "American"!
But what is an American? In fact, yourculture is an amalgam of the many cultures of the many immigrants that have arrived in the last three centuries or so. It is not a fixed gift of god or nature, but a dynamic entity. Those like you that believe any new immigrant must totally give up their culture and instead 100% adopt the American culture of the moment are deluded.
Many other countries (e.g., my own, Canada) have a very different (and I think, more realistic) approach to culture, called multiculturalism. Under it, while you accept a few basic values of your new country, you do not give up the culture of the country you came from. In fact, your new country actively supports through policies and money the culture that you came from.
You do not have such a multicultural approach in the US, and I think you are much poorer off for it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda9b46da8118a601f97cdJimmineySat, 01 Feb 2014 21:13:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda9b46da8118a601f97cd
I see. So you're questioning the U.S. Census information reported by the Economist? I wonder what else brings out your inner truther...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda940eab8ea8c49104146JimmineySat, 01 Feb 2014 21:11:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda940eab8ea8c49104146
Yeah, but "the Mexicans" are complete racial mixtures of the prehispanic population and the Spaniards. 80 percent of the country is mestizo, and 10 percent are indigenous (only 10 percent are pure European). In the U.S. we annhilated our Indian population. Very few of us have any significant indian blood. Indigenous blood lives on in Mexicans.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda812eab8ea874a104144JimmineySat, 01 Feb 2014 21:06:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52eda812eab8ea874a104144
And without the Mexicans we'd have no stoves and televisions (Mexico makes 90 percent of our consumer appliances); without the Mexians our cars would be much more expensive (the share of Mexican manufacturing in the U.S. auto industry is growing exponentially, and Mexico will overtake Japan this year as the largest exporters of cars to the U.S.); without the Mexicans we'd have no restaurant industry to speak of (Mexicans make all the food in restaurant kitchens all over the country and have increasingly come to dominate the higher end of the chef population as well); without the Mexicans we'd have no one to pick fruit in our orchards (Mexicans slave away for almost no pay at this incredibly physically demanding task that unemployed Americans absolutely refuse to assume); and without Mexico we'd have no Baja, no Puerto Vallarta, no Cancun, no Cozumel, no Manzanillo to escape to during the Arctic vortex... Oh, and we would have no decent avocados, either (Mexico produces 90 percent of the good ones). In return, we villify Mexicans, pass laws against them, and refuse to grant legal status to Dreamer kids. Mexicans are our future, and I for one have no problem with them retaking the American west. Heck, I'll give them whatever else they want in this damn country. They'll manage it better than "we" are.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed9fa56da8113c351f97cebahahalolSat, 01 Feb 2014 20:30:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed9fa56da8113c351f97ce
I love how The Economist (TM) is treated like an academic source by some. This article shows how flawed this position is. While its better content than BI can reblog, and hence improves the site, its still journo garbage overall. Case in point this article.
The Economist (TM) is actually a very clever information brokerage operation - pay for the mag, get your data sold to everyone under the sun. Don't beliebe? Try subscribing and see what mail and email you start to receive.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed90446da811e1741f97c9nouseSat, 01 Feb 2014 19:24:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed90446da811e1741f97c9
this why we need to INTEGRATE foreigners and help them to ASSIMILATE rather than isolating cultures. Here in L.A many districts are segregated not by law...but by national origin like Glendale, East LA, Koreatown etc. The sooner we all can refer to ourselves as Americans and treat each other like equal humans the better..for everyone. Otherwise yes I wouldn't be surprised if there was eventually a blitzkrieg from "La Rasa".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed8f8469bedd5b53104146nouseSat, 01 Feb 2014 19:21:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed8f8469bedd5b53104146
because the right wing of America wants to have loose gun laws...which the cartels love... and they want continue the flawed war on drugs instead of helping addicts with what we know works...which the cartels love as well.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed822a69beddec23104144ZWSat, 01 Feb 2014 18:24:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed822a69beddec23104144
Please try and remember the "mexicans" stole the land from the natives first, so don't make them out to be victims herehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed81ff6da811f4311f97c7crusader70Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:23:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed81ff6da811f4311f97c7
"A short and one-sided war," which the U.S. started. As it did the ones with Spain, Vietnam and Iraq, all four with armed invasions on faked pretexts. Funny how that's never taught in American high school history classes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed7675eab8ea461a104146Name that comedian who said...Sat, 01 Feb 2014 17:34:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed7675eab8ea461a104146
"If Mexicans are such hard workers, why is Mexico a shithole?"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed732b6da811b0721f97c7In 2048 the 1848 borders will be backSat, 01 Feb 2014 17:20:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed732b6da811b0721f97c7
Not politically but culturally. All the states south of the 1848 border will have Spanish-speaking governors and Hispanics will be the ethnic majority.
By then, two generations from now, Mexico's economy will be larger than China's. Expect the unexpected.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed6385ecad044f294ad8a0Trevor MartinSat, 01 Feb 2014 16:13:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/52ed6385ecad044f294ad8a0
God bless Mexicans!
Without Mexican food we would just be eating corn mash, biscuits, and gravy in the U.S.