Calling All L.A. Wolverines For The New Beverly's July 4th RED DAWN Screening w/ Lea Thompson!

Hey, Harry Dean Stanton! What would you like us to do this July 4th?

Done.
Though the Cold War was settled almost twenty years ago when that pussy Gorbachev cried "Glasnost!", there's still nothing more American than fantasizing about (non-nuclear) combat toe-to-toe with the Russkies. So this Saturday night, once you're properly, patriotically swollen with meat and beer and beer, you need to get your ass down to The New Beverly Cinema for their midnight screening of John Milius's RED GODDAMN DAWN.
What's that? "RED DAWN again?" You shouldn't require extra incentive, but here goes: 1) The lovely Lea Thompson will be on hand for a pre-film Q&A (schedule permitting), 2) There may be other RED DAWN alumni in attendance as well, and 3) If that ain't good enough for ya, leave.
See you there.

Millius' RD is often looked at as jingoistic cheese, which I think was Milius' intent (at least the jingoism) but it also is a subversive endorsement of unconventional warfare, including the Vietcongs' tactics against the US and their rational for fighting us. Now I am not a NLF or a North Vietnamese Army apologist, but many of the reasons for why the Vietcong fought America, the tactics, and the motivation ("Because we live here") could have been said by Charlie. It also shows the hubris of a super-power against a much inferior, less sophisticated opponent (sound familiar?), and how show of force doesn't always work against guerillas fighting for their national pride. <p>
Maybe if the Russian Army in RED DAWN had listened to their Cuban version of General Petraeus they might have won.

Seriously. A death threat and some wiki info on Brain Caroll aka Buckethead. WTF does buckethead have to do with that. <P> "Onions here, and let's have a really good time." Oh yeah... Dun Dun Dun Dah Dun Dahhhh.

It was cheesey fun. People take shit to seriously, like some one was going to wacth Red Dawn and make some life altering choices. It was the height of the 80's cold war "let's kill the commies" mentality. As a kid watching it on TBS, i'm thinking Lea Thompson is hot and Patrick Swayze's kicking ass. Thats about as deep as it got with me.

She made duck fucking sexy. I'm not even sure the great Megan Fox could pull that off.<P>
Me, she could pull off. EVERY DAY. But not the duck fucking. That is Lea's, and Lea's alone. That hot, hot momma.

Relax, I'm a confessed Kool-Aid drinker, so what if I like to spike the metaphoric punch.
I don't know if Red Dawn was originally R or PG-13 rated, but I remember the liiiinnnnne of us they let in (ALL ages) here in poorindianatown back when it first came out in the mid 80s.

Funny how Back To The Future envisioned Thompson at age 47 as this frumpy, latex-swathed hag, but now that she IS 47...she still looks almost the same. Check out the documentaries on the Howard The Duck DVD (yes, I bought it...and the film isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be), and she still looks incredible. Must be an 80's thing, as most of the chicks I crushed on back then (like Elisabeth Shue) are still SMOKING hot.

It was actually very much in keeping with the time and how guerrilla forces operate. It was also less a statement about Vietnam and more of a statement about why it would not happen. Red Dawn represents a REAL scenario created by the Cubans, Nicaraguans, and even Soviets that considered how an invasion of the US southwest would go. Their conclusion was that the American citizens were too well armed.

Red Dawn is a great film that has some very good moments in it and deals with a serious subject in a way that I think struck a decent balance between action/adventure/fantasy and dead seriousness. But what some people might not think about, is that some of these themes were thought about by a lot of people back in the 80's during the whole "red scare". It was thought very possible that the big russian bear from the north might actually come down on us. The real possibility of nuclear war and who knows what else, was hanging over peoples heads (granted, some people thought about it more than others). But such themes were coming out in movies and such.The cold war was kinda at a peak. The last peak. Before the wall fell and the Soviet Union disappeared, there was a time period where it looked like it could really go crazy. A lot of movies at that time dealt with that pressure in different ways. There were some movies that suggested we should all just get along, and there were others that looked at what could happen if it all went to shit. A lot of us kids and teens, well, we tuned out a lot and buried our heads in music and other things. But even there stuff would come up. Who can forget the nuclear front cover and theme to the "Ultimate Sin" album by Ozzy Osbourne (even if the album itself may not one of his best - I still enjoy it). And there were others.
SO I guess my point is, I really hate seeing people bitch and moan about the supposed "silliness" of the film. Today, if the film was made, all they would have to do would be to replace the bad guys in the old Red Dawn with the kind of terrorism and Islamic takeover of america that I'm sure are on some people's minds. I generally don't like remakes, but THAT, I would probably go see. Besides, the spread of religion and religious extremism is something that is far harder to stop than political extremism. I mean, potentially, militant Islam (or any other militant religion theoretically that wants to impose a theocracy) can certainly become a greater threat in the long run than anything Hitler ever conceived of. When "god" is put into the equation, the world goes bonkers... That's the stuff that dark ages are made of...
"RUN TO THE HILLS, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!" - IRON MAIDEN

As a young boy in the 80's when I saw Red Dawn, I believed ever freaking moment of it... just the school scene at the beginning freaked me out. I would have followed the "older" kids of the wolverines to the ends of the earth. I was very into this movie as a kid. My heart sank and I was actually so nervous when the tracking device thing happens. That was so awful for them to have to face. I really bought into the whole thing.
So yeah maybe it's cheesy now, but there as a kid it really worked for me.

You didn't really contradict anything I said, so I have no idea why you directed that at me, or why your conclusion seems to be an attempt to contradict me. The Cubans were the ones who decided the Americans were too well armed. Guerrilla warfare is much easier to wage if you have tons of weapons and ammo. As for them using Russian equipment, they had to first acquire that stuff. And they did it by killing enemy soldiers with the guns they had.

...because, if I remember correctly, some of the invading troops parachuted out of commercial airliners. It's implausible because a bunch of kids with bows and arrows kill well-armed troops, it's silly because there are conventional tank battles taking place in America, but in China they just got nuked: so why not the States? It's silly because Russia & Cuba decide to team-up to launch a conventional invasion of America. Such realism!

The target didn't seem to make sense. What I've thought, even way back then was that if they had said it was Alaska and it was an oil grab, the story would have been more realistic. There were actually Soviet hardliners who called for such an invasion, stating that the area was rightfully theirs because the Seward Alaska Purchase was corrupt or invalid (actually they didn't know about the oil in 1867).
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I think an Alaska location would have more logistic sense too, making the numbers of invaders vs locals and isolation from reinforcements seem more realistic. Hell, they could have still shot in the same location.
<p> Boy am I pissing away some time on twenty year old bullshit here....
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Happy 4th to those in my country.

Don't forget - Mike Nelson (of MST3K fame) just release a rifftrax for this flick that he did with Joel McHale (of The Soup fame, *not* of McHale's Navy fame). Haven't watched it yet, but those are both funny guys.

Did you see the same movie we're talking about? Because I seem to remember the kids killing with guns and grenades rather than bows and arrows. What they did was called Guerilla Warfare and it is quite effective. Because they're kids means nothing. As they say in Lord of War --- "A gun in a 14-year-old's hands is just as deadly as a gun in an adult's hands." Then again, maybe I should apologize. I forgot we were talking about real life and not a movie that came out in the 80's. Perhaps you'd like a more realistic movie, such as Predator? Perhaps Frankenstein?

Watch the movie again. They clearly spell out the reasons for the invasion and why nuclear weapons were not used on U.S. targets.
I also neglected to mention how fucking great RON SUPERFLY O'NEAL is in this playing a Cuban colonel. "COO-BAH....SAHN SAHL-VA-DOR..."

...than in the USA. Yeah, THAT'S the new Red Dawn...and it will be all but guaranteed when the libs you retards voted into the senate pass the cap & trade bill. And Franken, a suckass comedian at best, is now the vote that will block the fillibuster. Goooooo Hollywood..no really, just go... and take your lame ass remakes with you - no talent orginality lacking mofos

yes, it's a reliable weapon, but the reason it became so popular was that it took almost no training to use it and more importantly in it's simple design, allowing for less industrialized nations (Egypt, etc.) to manufacturer it at a very large capacity. Which is why it's the weapon of choice around the world. Next time you see an AK (ha, chuckle), look at the stamp of orgin and I'll bet you $100,000 that is wasn't made in Russia/former USSR republics.

Powers Boothe was indeed a great Phillip Marlowe; in fact, I'd go so far as to say he was the BEST. Bogey, Dick Powell, Robert Mongomery, Mitchum, Elliot Gould -- Boothe somehow managed to have them all beat, whether through vitality (Bogey, Mitchum) or sheer coolness (all the rest). I really wish that show would pop up on A&E or something.

It was the first time it ever occurred to me that, even though I had paid my money, I wasn't actually chained to the seat, and I could use my freedom of choice to walk out of the theater and try to reclaim some of my life, rather than just sit zombie-like through a horrible movie.<p> It was a life-changing revelation, and the first of many movies that I have left half way through.<p>
God I hated Red Dawn.

From the killer crooked smile, to the perfectly proportioned body, down to what has to be some of the best legs in the business...Lea Thompson is in my top 10 of all time Faptastic babes. A real 3 tissue girl.</p><p>I'd love the chance to run my moist tongue up the backs of her insane gams...up too her perfect, no doubt still taught buttocks...and as she slowly bent forward and positioned her her soft milky thighs wide apart, work my mouth between her luscious perfumed ass cheeks into the hot dampness of her furnace like vagina...stopping just for a second, a hesitation really, to savor the fact I was eating the sticky sweet living sex directly from Marty McFlys mom.

You're obvious illiteracy makes your "dirty talk" absolutely sickening. If this was a letter to PENTHOUSE FORUM, there would be no way any spellling check program could make your sentences any more coherent.

Interestingly, in 1984, the closest parallel would have been the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. If Milius was making a statement about that conflict, it was right on. But it's so hard for me to see through his jingoism, I have difficulty thinking of him having much of a heart, let alone a big one.
But thank you for your comment. You've noticed something I missed, I guess.