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02-27-2012 05:11 AM

Pedronimo

Thanks everybody...
I said him that I disagree with the deal because I don't trust him so much coz he was too focused on the money I would bring without prooving me that he's a good sailor with credentials or any reference.

So I'll just continue looking for a way to be an inexperienced crewmember with my boat on a boat at normal prices on Find a Crew

02-25-2012 04:48 PM

hellosailor

"The skipper don`t pay in, but he consume also."
Yes, well, if it was a straight deal you should bear in mind the skipper may not be paying but he's contributing the boat. That's how it works when you take friends sailing, they often take on some of the expenses because the owner is making the big ones.

But the deals you see to "share expenses" are something to look at very cautiously. If someone is advertising commercially and taking on strangers--that's commercial and they're trying to dodge the regulations requiring a commercial license, a captain's license, business license, often dodging insurance regulations as well.

If you are being told to pay, pay a sailing school or other BUSINESS that is not trying to play games with regulations. If they are trying to cheat...but of course, they're trying to cheat someone else, they'd never cheat on you, would they?

02-25-2012 04:35 PM

rgscpat

For that much money, I would expect a professional, licensed, captain who provides instruction, and a high level of service. I would expect references and testimonials.

Some captains give better value than others. Those who provide a good service and good instruction can deservedly earn their fees. Some others, though, might be a rip-off or might be taking advantage of inexperience. When you talk with a captain, does he seem very willing to talk about the passage, the boat, his credentials, and refer you to former crew members? Do you feel comfortable trusting your self and someone you care about deeply to be kept safe by the captain and would you feel comfortable being in an intimate, inescapable confinement with him?

This is just a charter by the bunk. If were to do that, I would expect to have no onboard responsibilities, including cooking or cleaning up after myself.

On the ther hand, if you're looking to ride for free as crew, expect that you will be the one cooking and cleaning for the rest, among much more.

02-25-2012 07:52 AM

jameswilson29

You are learning quickly about sail lovers...

02-25-2012 05:25 AM

Pedronimo

Rip off

Hi to every sail lover,

Thanks rgscpat you've summarized perfectly well my situation.
I'm currently looking for a boat on NAUTYCAL Find a Crew™ thanks to sailingfool.

I'm also experiencing a rip off. Because one guy on this website offer me to be inexperienced sailors on his boat with my girlfriend if and only if we pay a part of the maintenance of the boat 280 € per week per sailor + Money for the daily consume, diesel fuel, gas, fees and so on will be administrated by a crew member. (Circa € 120,-per crew member and week).
The skipper don`t pay in, but he consume also.

So 2 weeks for 2 people would be 280*4 + 120*4 = 1 600€
This is my first experience and I believe that's not fair

02-21-2012 08:39 PM

rgscpat

I think Pedro (the OP) is looking for an inexpensive way for him and his friend to go cruising. If they have some sort of on-the-water experience, are good at roughing it and open to new experiences, and don't have any lifestyle conflicts with their potential skippers, there could be some cruisers who would welcome them. Pedro and his girlfriend might have an even better chance of going cruising if they can go on some short sails to increase their sailing skills and gain some references. Also, if personalities or other aspects of the trip don't work out, the consequences are much less of a bother on a short trip.