hope shields is alright - IMO he was perhaps our best corner this year ... game might of been different with shields in ... that hyde drop would of been a game changer if he would of INTed that instead ... I digress ... we got lots of money but lots of people hitting FA - shields for one.

We better pray that we find a bunch of players that can play for minimum if we want to have a chance.

Why are teams like the 49ers, Seahawks passing us by. Because they have good QBs who are not getting paid. As long as we tie up so much of the cap in a few players we will never get to where we were before Rodgers and Clay got paid.

They also need to take care of Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson, who are both free agents after 2014. Still, there's no reason they should just boycott free agency. Brian Orakpo is wishful thinking, but there are other fish in the pond.

Packers have something like $84 million on the books for 2015, which if the salary cap is the same as the projected 2014 cap, that will leave the Packers with $40 million to play with to lock up Cobb and Nelson.

Why are teams like the 49ers, Seahawks passing us by. Because they have good QBs who are not getting paid. As long as we tie up so much of the cap in a few players we will never get to where we were before Rodgers and Clay got paid.

Russel Wilson is 19th on their cap hits at under 1 million. Sherman is 22nd at under 700k. Kaepernick and Reed are both under 1.7mil for the 49ers. They deserve the credit for their drafts and what they've built, but obviously the time to pay like the Packers have had to is soon coming.

Packers have something like $84 million on the books for 2015, which if the salary cap is the same as the projected 2014 cap, that will leave the Packers with $40 million to play with to lock up Cobb and Nelson.

The same treatment Clay Matthews got last year is the same treatment I'd give Cobb and Nelson. You don't want them to come close to free agency. I rather see the team get ahead than wait until the last second to re-sign two of their best players.

We better pray that we find a bunch of players that can play for minimum if we want to have a chance.

Why are teams like the 49ers, Seahawks passing us by. Because they have good QBs who are not getting paid. As long as we tie up so much of the cap in a few players we will never get to where we were before Rodgers and Clay got paid.

Denver has about the same amount of cap space tied up in Manning and Bailey.

I don't think that it's that bad, as long as the production warrants those contracts. It does when looking at Rodgers. Clay, as well, when he's healthy, which is always a big if with him.

Most teams do have a drop-off after that, though, going towars 5 million cap space or something. We have Tramon with a 9,5 million cap hit. Seems rather out of proportion right now.

That said, we still have the cap room to do some things. Might take care of some of our receivers and frontload their contracts, though. Seems like something Ted would do rather than make a splash in FA.

We better pray that we find a bunch of players that can play for minimum if we want to have a chance.

Why are teams like the 49ers, Seahawks passing us by. Because they have good QBs who are not getting paid. As long as we tie up so much of the cap in a few players we will never get to where we were before Rodgers and Clay got paid.

Those teams were better last year before we paid Rodgers/Matthews plus they both only took up less than 19m combined this year. Their time will come to pay their players. We are still in a better place than we would be without paying. Unless you think we can draft a top 5 QB every few years and let ours walk then complaining about it doesn't do any good.

We are hurting more at Safety and that is a position that requires some time for most players coming out of college. I would prefer to see Ted Thompson have an excellent draft that will help with the cap and go after a solid Safety in FA that will be an upgrade starting game 1.

The back end has to get better. Not one INT all year and very little support in the middle or deep routes has to stop.

Those teams were better last year before we paid Rodgers/Matthews plus they both only took up less than 19m combined this year. Their time will come to pay their players. We are still in a better place than we would be without paying. Unless you think we can draft a top 5 QB every few years and let ours walk then complaining about it doesn't do any good.

Well Rodgers was getting paid, he was not on a rookie contract. He was 7 or 8 million cap hit before his new deal. We never really were able to have him for cheap like Kap and Wilson are.

Not a knock on them for getting paid, just the reality of our situation. I had talking a couple years ago that our best chance for another SB was before Rodgers, Matthews and Raji at that time came due for contracts and that if we were ever going to make a splash in FA that would have been the time.

Now we are much more dependent on street FA, and rookie contract players.

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gbguy20 (9-Feb) : or get him to take a team friendly number now while promising him a massive marketing contract in retirement to make up for it

gbguy20 (9-Feb) : jimmy g set the record after 7 starts. you really think Rodgers value goes down? sign him now and make it cap friendly for the next 2 years. get him for 28.5 per now instead of 34 per year a year or 2

Zero2Cool (9-Feb) : He has multiple years left, he can wait until final year, like the process goes

Zero2Cool (9-Feb) : he didn't play like a Superstar vs Panthers, he doesn't deserve new deal.

Porforis (9-Feb) : This assumes Rodgers continues to play like a superstar and doesn't miss additional seasons, lowering his value entering the mid to tail end of his career.