Miley Cyrus On New Music: ‘I Want Something That Feels Black’

In case you were wondering, the line above was spewed by former Disney belle/current Ratchet Pop purveyor Miley Cyrus– revealed this week by the writers behind her new single ‘Planet IV‘.

Want to know why this comment has so many up in arms?

We’ve got the full story below…

In a conveniently timed interview with Vibe, Planet IV went some way to explain how the single ‘We Can’t Stop’ came to be, and what Miley asked for when enlisting them to create it.

The writing duo revealed:

“When you listen to the Miley Cyrus record that we did, it’s not ratchet but it definitely has a lot of Urban feel to it. “She was like, ‘I want Urban. I just want something that just feels Black.”

Unfortunately for them, repeating the last line of that conversation has seen many question what the ‘Hannah Montana’ meant by ‘something that feels black’, with some hinting- ourselves included- that Ms.Cyrus was not on the hunt for something ‘Black’ but for something stereotypical.

It’s such a shame that in an age where the likes of Beyonce, Rihanna and Emeli Sande have gone so far in pushing the diversity that can be found in ‘Black’ music, the likes of Miley and her seemingly ignorant writers confuse ‘Black’ music with Urban culture.

For, in showcasing the true extent of her musical knowledge, Cyrus’ ‘Black’ request and subsequent use of ebonics, drug references and ‘Hey hey Shante’ lingo is both distasteful and a little disturbing.

Perhaps, if she’d taken the time to educate herself, she’d have known that ‘Urban/Ratchet’ is not synonymous with Black culture- and that race should never be used to define the genre of music an act makes.

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So popping your ass and drinking in clubs and acting like a fool is BLACK? See, this is what they see us as. I can’t. And this has nothing to do with other White artist doing Urban music, just HER saying that.

That’s cuz Mike Will initially wrote it or made it with Rihanna in mind but she didn’t take it. So yeah…but it looks like the fans love it. I don’t think it’s anything special but it might get her noticeability with the black crowd so *shrug*

the same kind of ignorance the majority of this site’s audience spews when they claim Nicki Minaj went with a ‘white’ sound in regards to her pop music.

As usual, the black community will jump on the race card and be quick to criticize an unintentionally offensive comment, yet when the shoe is on the other foot, black people have NO problem feeding into prejudice and stero-type.

“As usual, the black community will jump on the race card and be quick to criticize an unintentionally offensive comment, yet when the shoe is on the other foot, black people have NO problem feeding into prejudice and stero-type”?

Do you even realize that you just contradicted yourself? You just said that black people as a whole think and do in such a manner that you just described. Realize that any generalization of that nature is beyond ignorant. Please analyze your statement next time before you post such nonsense.

AshwardJune 14, 2013

Where’s the contradiction? Maybe YOU need to ‘analyze’ your statements.

I wasn’t criticizing black people for making generalisations – nor Miley. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the comments on this site.

I make generalisations all the time – as does everybody else. Its a core aspect of social psychology and instinctual. My issue was with people claiming to be above or upset about a throwaway comment when they will be guilty of the same thing on the next post.

Don’t try and act smart and read in to things – it doesn’t work for you.

TouchéJune 14, 2013

In your own words: ” the same kind of ignorance the majority of this site’s audience spews when they claim Nicki Minaj went with a ‘white’ sound in regards to her pop music”.

You called the audience ignorant even though your own comment was completely ignorant; this is the contradiction.

“I wasn’t criticizing black people for making generalisations – nor Miley. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the comments on this site”?

That’s not what I was addressing to you darling. I said YOU were the one making generalizations about blacks by saying that as usual the black community acts in the manner in which you had described. That was beyond stupid to say.

“I make generalisations all the time – as does everybody else. Its a core aspect of social psychology and instinctual”?

Wrong. Generalizations in the context you used was inaccurate. Try again.

“My issue was with people claiming to be above or upset about a throwaway comment when they will be guilty of the same thing on the next post”?

Firstly, most of the people who commented on here weren’t “upset”, they just mainly called her ignorant or claimed it wasn’t a big deal. Anyway, I understand what you were trying to address but I don’t understand why you had to say that “as usual the black community…”. It’s not just black people on this site who comment. There are other races who comment on this site even on posts with Niki minaj where they talk about “white washing” so why didn’t you target them as well?

“Don’t try and act smart and read in to things – it doesn’t work for you.”

You might want to take your own advice because you honestly made yourself look completely irrational.

WTFJune 14, 2013

why is it unintentional when ur too daff to be able to tell the difference between the black community and individuals who happen upon this garbage site and see ur lack of tack on front street? for instance,i’m not a community,im just one person who finds this type of reverse psychology purile. why is it ok to characterize a whole segment of society? from over here,its not cute at all. exactly the underlying problem with miss cyrus’s uncool comment. of course its going p*** off any black person not content to appear to be a walking cliche. think about it?

*Twisted Face* …B****.. As much as I like Miley, I’ll smack the s*** out of her for that. Being “Black” ain’t easy and that’s what pisses us off when we see White people trying to play the part.. White people acting “black” has never been cool to me because black people don’t “Act” a certain way. It’s more to us than being loud and fried chicken.

I agree with Sam and a lot of other comments on here but who do you think wrote and produced the song? More than likely a black person. Black people feed into the stereotype just as much as it’s believed. Especially if money’s involved(i.e. television, movies, music etc)…#Truth

WTF? that is pure and simple racist reactionary garbage. this thread is about miley montana. not all f****** black people.whom it is obvious u know nothing about. be very quiet indeed switch. all “black people”, i assure u are not feeding into ur rediculous observations. where do u waste of good air come from? and why do u think u have something worth saying? u miss thang,make miley look like a nobel laureate.

Yes, I’m White and I know that I may treading on ‘wet concrete’ here but, I’m going to be a realist for one minute because I’m not stupid:

That is why there is a certain aspects of the White music industry and, overall, media that I despise. It’s funny how they can “miraculously” transform behavior deemed and construed “inappropriate, hood, ratchet”, performed by a Black person, by mainstream American standards, etc… into something “adorable.” when performed by White people.

This is nothing more than attempt to “affirm” her street credibilty and gain a Black fanbase for sales but once her mangerial team are tired of this faux- persona she’s putting forward, they will soon retire her from the ‘urban’ scene and re-market her back into the ‘All-American’ Pop Girl that she once was.

It’d be different if she actually had a genuine interest, and passion, in ‘Black/Urban’ music [Robin Thicke, Jon B, Average White Band] but many of them don’t and truly have no connection to it, other than for popularity causes. – ala: Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake etc.

Every non-Black person wants a piece of ‘Black Culture’ but they don’t actually want to be ‘Black’ or associate themselves with the race in ‘that way’.

are u trying to sound like dumb ass to the tenth power? now here this a few thousanr clowns that actually give a flying toaster strudel what miley manuge has to say weather over a screwdriver,or “ratchet” track . there is no ubiquitous black community.no one size fits all uber archetype that we all slavishly adhere to. no matter what ur synaps boiling, so called social mediated brain farts wish to convey. got it.figure out how to not be utterly clueless and yet smug nonetheless. and make a darkie smile,TODAY.

Her father is a country one hit wonder. She couldn’t have less of an urban connection if she tried. You’re right the b**** is rich, but the b**** is also irrelevant and wants more hits. She is currently in limbo, no Disney audience and no adult audience which is why she wants to appeal to an “urban” audience.

You want black b****?
Try spending hundreds of years in shackles, decades of being attacked for being black by white people AND your own race.
I never want to have a us and them approach to white people, but my ancestors didn’t go through what they went through just so some idiot teeny bopper can make stupid statements like this and think it’s cute. It’s not.

This isn’t about white people making r&b and selling more because they’re white, it’s about idiot people of all races taking the worst parts of a CULTURE and painting the whole race with that brush.

If you want the kind of BLACK you’re looking for, go to your nearest hood, twerk there and see how friendly BLACK people can be.

This is without one doubt,the best possible comment on this thread. i admitted got waaay too heated from seeing how buttarded the young and the shameless of this train wreck of a society blow snot bubbles with their typing fingers. that takes talent but so does crocodile hunting……aint seen sreve erwin ij a while. where he go yo? …..(smirk)…..way to go .

This b**** is suffering an identity crisis and its sad. She doesn’t know who she wants to be. First she was pop, then she desperately tried to be hardcore with the rock look but that flopped. So now she’s trying desperately hard to be accepted by urban audiences and its going to back fire. I knew her career was dead after Can’t Be Sold flopped harder than Bionic but now its officially dead.

Ultimate death @ a Britney stan coning for vocals. O love Britney but let’s be real, Selena can sing better than both of them. She has a better range than both as seen here with her flawless high register

MusicJune 13, 2013

@Selenator Selena has no range/emotion/ability/etc and she can’t perform. Hence the billboard awards. Chile sit.

SelenatorJune 13, 2013

She has more than Miley as the video I just posted proves. And how can you judge someone’s vocal capacity based off one performance were the focuse clearly wasn’t on vocals. Look up her acoustic charity concert and fall back.

Oh please, you accepted the whole white person wants to be black persona with Xtina, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, JLo…etc, why is it so bad when Miley jumps on the band wagon.

You let Justin Timberlake pop open Janet’s nipple and throw her under the bus and still proceeded to buy his comeback album. Someone gave this song to. Miley and I’m willing to bet that someone is black.

@Selenator
Excuse me but your comment is so ignorant, Latinos are not race, they can be White, Blacks, Asian, Arabs ect, ect…their language does not make them non White, are you kidding me.

Xtina – has European descent, she’s white, her skin color and features speak for itself.

J.Lo’s parents are Puerto Rican of Spanish descent, J.Lo could pass for a Mediterranean woman, the majority of Spanish people, Italians and Portuguese have Olive skin which is still White, of course they are other white people from Germany, Sweden ect, ect…but that doesn’t make people from the mediterranean less white than them, The White race is as versatile as the black race, lots of different tones from one who looks almost like an Albino from one who looks very tan.

Shakira is Latina with Arabic descent.

Ricky Martin is Puerto Rican and White.

Cristina Saralegui is Cuban and White.

Charity Goyco is Dominican and White.

Latinos are an ethnic group not a race.

I can’t believe there are people in AMERICA who doesn’t know this yet, i mean c’mon.

SelenatorJune 13, 2013

@Suicide
What the actual f*** are talking about?
1. I never called them Latina, and I know what the word means
2. White refers is another word for Caucasian. It has nothing to do with skin color. Demi, Selena, Ariana, Christina A, and plenty of others look white but aren’t.
3. Christina’s more is white but her father was Hispanic. She’s just as whit as she is Hispanic. She can be as pale as a ghost but that wouldn’t make her white.
4. Many Spaniards look white but are not classified as apart of the “white race” you speak of.
5. Shakira is Columbian

Suicide BlondeJune 13, 2013

@Selenator
Many Spaniards look white but are not classified as apart of the “white race” you speak of.

Girl bye, so i guess, light skinned people like Beyonce and Rihanna are not considered blacks.

SelenatorJune 14, 2013

@Suicide
Are you really this stupid or are you trolling? Refer back to #2 where I said skin color doesn’t dictate the race of a person. Rihanna and Beyonce aren’t black because their skin tone. They are black because of their parents are black. Selena can be the color of Kelly Rowland but it wouldn’t make her black since her parents are both Mexican Americans.

From what Im seeing is you clearly have no idea what black or white means. Black usually=African or African-American where as White usually=Caucasian. No f****** person from Spain would ever call themselves white or Caucasian. You are a f****** idiot and confused white man if you think so.

WTFJune 14, 2013

u might not know many but those are spanish words. spain is in europe. full stop. that said,puerto ricans routinely switch between white and not white whenever it suits them. go fig.

Bey FanJune 13, 2013

It was her comment…. it was inappropriate because she stereotyped what “black” feels like.

You cannot blame her. She’s not from the street so whatever she knows or learn she learned it from
The white media who always write like they know about black culture. Hollywood life site always making up Rihanna and Chris stories.their so call source is supposed to be black.if you look how they write in ebonics its sickening

Bad examples boo! J Lo is a Puerto Rican from the Bronx, was a freaking fly girl on “In Living Color,” appeared in a Janet video, grew up on Spanish and R&B music….her FIRST music video got A LOT of play on BET so ummm yeah she had a liiiittle more credibility than Miley.

And Christina was heavily influenced by R&B and soul music…

Education does not equal sellout in the black community. A sell out is someone who gets a little bit of money/power and forgets where the f*** they came from, so I don’t wanna hear that.

Not to mention Christina AGUILERA is half Hispanic. Not some country spoon fed white girl

MsThing485June 13, 2013

When were you born, in 1998? Plenty of people did actually complain when Christina and JLo went through their “I wanna be black” phase. But I guess if you were only a toddler when “I’m Real” came out, you probably don’t remember that.

Miley’s doing this because her ‘Hannah Montana’ shtick is played out and she desperately needs a new image and gimmick to sell herself, which makes her a fake. If Miley had always been into black music, this wouldn’t be an issue…and she’d probably have more sense than to use the phrase “I want something that feels black.” But she wasn’t looking for something “black” when she croaked out that wack ass “Party In the U.S.A,” was she? She’s a phony. I know that being phony is par for the course in the music industry, but she should learn to camouflage it better.

I think she’s trying to do what Xtina did with the Stripped era but when Christina did she seemed genuine and she made a great album. Miley just comes off fake and trashy. This comment disappoints me almost as much as the songwriters who wrote it.

She wants to make urban music what’s the big deal??? You people should be happy she putting that type of music back to the mainstream maybe your R&B flops can get shine now that miley is bringing r&b & urban music back Rihanna tried n failed.

firstly,bath salts are not for smoking. and that is not a hamhock, u just ate. stay away from little kids,a THING as stupid as u appear will lower a young and impressionable IQ on sight. do it for that babies!

Death @ you pulling out the Hannah Montanna receipts. Where were those fans when Can’t Be Sold was released? Didn’t the first single debut similarly to We Can’t Stop? It will probably have the same fate: early peak then quick fall off the charts. Its already falling down on iTunes. Unlike Miley, Selena’s singles have longevity. CAGI will enjoy a long time in the Top 10 and on the overall chart. Love You Like A Love Song almost lasted on Billboard for a year.

lolaxJune 13, 2013

we cant stop was #1 on itunes without any promotion or music video selina with all her promotion never reach the top 1 #floplena #still #flopping

Ariana went to #1 on iTunes longer than Miley and look where her song is compared to Selena’s. #1 on iTunes is irrelevant unless you can hold it. Like I said, WCS is falling down iTunes already while CAGI moved up. Longevity>> quick peaks. And please, CAGI was released early with the same amount of promo as WCS because it leaked. Keep trying with these excuses.

Bey FanJune 13, 2013

What feels black??? Does she mean music like Beyonce or Rihanna…. or music like mary j or Anita baker…. perhaps she means music like prince or MJ….Ella and Bille???

Ohhh Miley…. I have no problem is she wants to do urban/hip hop/soul/jazz/blues music. But statements like that make you sound ignorant …. and anyone defending her statement is just as ignorant.

I don’t care for MC but give her a break She’s still young and broke off from her Disney ways and has found a new crowd and has probably said that due to her new found “happiness ” without giving it much thought.

What an ignorant little b****! No she’s not broke the girl is 120 million dollars rich! It’s never ok to make statements like that, Even people make them more than often…The only thing statements like that do is keep stereotypes alive so please don’t give that an OK, and a slap on the b***! I think she should have educated herself more than the average people, Just because she has a higher platform, and is a public figure! WTF is black music though? When people say stuff like that it just restricts people from enjoying the music they love, it shouldn’t have a color on it, it should just be about the music! I hate generalizations like that!

I use to like her, but yeah you know the rest! So this h** twerks, and think IT’S A BLACK THING? huh…No silly b**** it’s a ratchet thing, and ratchet knows no such thing as color! I’m utterly disgusted by this h**………* Throws rob at her, and points to a tree*

This is a time when my name is more than strong enough for simple b****** like this h**! Being black does not equate being ratchet, Ghetto, or ignorant as Miley seems to think! When some black folks choose to make rachet gutter ignorant music it’s because they are ignorant themselves, and embrace that life, Not because THEY ARE BLACK! A few blacks don’t speak for the entire black community which is why her statement is even more ignorant! When Pink did ” There you go” she wasn’t making BLACK MUSIC, she was making URBAN MUSIC! When Enimenm became a big time rapper he wasn’t making BLACK MUSIC, he was making URBAN MUSIC! Not every black listens to HIP HOP, or R&B, and to think other wise simply takes away from the individualism, and groups a race as a collective bunch, Which black have fought so hard to be judged off of merits not skin color! MILEY YOU ARE AN IGNORANT C***! Grow up!

“black” in the entertainment industry is everything associated with the lyrics of her single.

so Black = Big butts ? in the club ? doing drugs and getting dumb ? being uneducated and “Bout that life” ?

to the entertainment industry : YES.

this is the new stereotype in process.

Sad but true , again, black people are the ones to blame , you let them play you that way, now it became cool/trendy to do anything that “feels black” .
Usually i don’t talk “racism” , but it is obvious you guys , it is like watching a “punk’d” episode.

well,at least u didnt say ratchet. i would slap the life ever living force out of any one of u wanks if i could actually see u mutter that shhh. i truly think it would improve our collective gene pool. let it die,…dead.

Lol Mikey is hilarious and y’all black people on this sight commenting feeling hurt by she wants something more black taking it out of context and reaching like she’s disrespecting y’all. Come on you guys do it to yourselves. Like somebody mentioned look at bet enough said..black people do it to themselves and rappers do it to their own people.

Yeah because black rappers and people on tv represent every black person in America. Black people are like clones and what one does, we all do right? 1% of population of black people in hollywood speak for/represent all of us right? Last time I checked BET was own by white people. Just because a few black celebrities approve of this s*** don’t mean we all do and I can’t stop the 1% of people that do. So If my individual self is offended I have every right to be. How is her saying she wants to do some black, urban, hood songs taken out of context? Please enlighten me? Because all you’ve done so far is generalize an entire race of people based off of the media.

the people u see on BET (not bet) are makijg personal choices. they are not doing anything to me personally. dumb stoopid other than blacks are the ones taking things out of context and getting the cow by the ass. yet u always seem to think whatever u want to do or say towards the “black community” is fair game. we cant call u on ur idiot mind spew because that would make spoil sports? who gives a frazier crane what u think? clearly u dont even have the depth to see why this is offensive. its not a figment of my imagination. ur a dumb a***,and so i miley kangaroo. get all the way the @$%* out of here! WTF.

Fake thug persona?? Hmm, that sounds familiar. I really don’t want to see any Rihanna fans talking about that when the woman literally has a new image every year. Miley aint the only one with an identity crisis. Chile…ch

You guys that read these blog’s get your info. from a third party, this statement wasn’t even given to thatgrapejuice from Miley but from somebody else. Chill out kids, it’s only Music. For us to be concerned about what hannah montana is doing is ridiculous when there are so many other injustices in our world right now. If you wanna stand up for something stand up.

Please! Just put a sock in it. Who are ya to tell her how to live her life, if she wants to cross over into another audience, then let her.

“YOU PEOPLE” take everything out of contact, you always blame somebody for you guys mistakes. Don’t blame Miley cause she is rich and living life. Then ya wanna go on and on and call her a flop, cause she said something ya did not agree with or like.. WHAT!!!

Her song is NOT a flop thank you though, her loyal fans shot that song straight up the iTunes Charts the day it was release! So ya have NO SAY IN MILEY CYRUS MUSIC AT ALL!!!!

Miley was ALWAYS rebellious even as a Disney Star, she was never like the other clean cut Disney Stars such as Selena, Hilary and Demi (except her rehab stint). She was always getting into trouble and acting like a real teenager. So this natural progression for her.

Miley was caught smoking bong while she still had a disney contract for godssakes.

Please! Just put a sock in it. Who are ya to tell her how to live her life, if she wants to cross over into another audience, then let her.

“YOU PEOPLE” take everything out of contact, you always blame somebody for you guys mistakes. Don’t blame Miley cause she is rich and living life. Then ya wanna go on and on and call her a flop, cause she said something ya did not agree with or like.. WHAT!!!

Her song is NOT a flop thank you though, her loyal fans shot that song straight up the iTunes Charts the day it was release! So ya have NO SAY IN MILEY CYRUS MUSIC AT ALL!!!!

Please! Just put a sock in it. Who are ya to tell her how to live her life, if she wants to cross over into another audience, then let her.

“YOU PEOPLE” take everything out of contact, you always blame somebody for you guys mistakes. Don’t blame Miley cause she is rich and living life. Then ya wanna go on and on and call her a flop, cause she said something ya did not agree with or like.. WHAT!!!

Her song is NOT a flop thank you though, her loyal fans shot that song straight up the iTunes Charts the day it was release! So ya have NO SAY IN MILEY CYRUS MUSIC AT ALL!!!!

I’m sorry that you’re stupid. If she had of said she wanted it urban, hood, street, night club or hip hop, that would’ve been fine. But she said Black, as in the whole race. Parties I go to people don’t do that, so am I’m not black? What? Her being a teen star (Brandy, Raven), going to the Oscars (Aaliyah, Janet, Beyoncé) and having a some what film career isn’t Black? Why when this chic is shaking her ass is considered Black? I’ll let you think about that.

Please! Just put a sock in it. Who are ya to tell her how to live her life, if she wants to cross over into another audience, then let her.

“YOU PEOPLE” take everything out of contact, you always blame somebody for you guys mistakes. Don’t blame Miley cause she is rich and living life. Then ya wanna go on and on and call her a flop, cause she said something ya did not agree with or like.. WHAT!!!

Her song is NOT a flop thank you though, her loyal fans shot that song straight up the iTunes Charts the day it was release! So ya have NO SAY IN MILEY CYRUS MUSIC AT ALL!!!!

I’m sorry that you’re stupid. If she had of said she wanted it urban, hood, street, night club or hip hop, that would’ve been fine. But she said Black, as in the whole race. Parties I go to people don’t do that, so am I’m not black? What? Her being a teen star (Brandy, Raven), going to the Oscars (Aaliyah, Janet, Beyoncé) and having a some what film career isn’t Black? Why when this chic is shaking her ass is considered Black? I’ll let you think about that.

it urban, hood, street, night club or hip hop, that would’ve been fine. But she said Black, as in the whole race. Parties I go to people don’t do that, so am I’m not black? What? Her being a teen star (Brandy, Raven), going to the Oscars (Aaliyah, Janet, Beyoncé) and having a some what film career isn’t Black? Why when this chic is shaking her ass is considered Black? I’ll let you think about that.

People are on here complaining. But for what? Cause Miley wanted to TWERT at a juicy j concert, or is it because she is white and she wants to do more urban music.

Miley Cyrus is a sweet person believe me. Miley is not racist, commenters on here are blowing things up. You guys love to point fingers at a innocent little suburban white girl who is just trying to live her life.

Hiphop is not just a black thing, everybody can rap Asians, Spanish, Latinos, you guys think you own that? Well.. You got another thing coming. cause white people are the main ones buying rap music. So please have a seat!

Leave Miley alone! She ain’t here to hurt anybody. You guys just need to chill

Aint none of u my pals,so i dont feel any pressure to conform to anybodies liptrip. as a first generation hip hop(er) i have to give yet another junior high reverse psychologist the gas face. hip hop is in fact black music (as is most musics created in america) the fact that rich capitalist come into everything we make simply to entertain ourselves and ruin it for the very people who was given a voice by it cannot be simply trivialized.i aint having that shyt. the profit motive and the clueless middle americans (i am being pc….on purpose) who bandwagon everything we do in order to be “cool” can in fact eat a [email protected]#k. i think its high time a few ruggedly built individuals call it how it is. white hangers on ruin every culture they have stolen with their suburban bank accounts. do not presume to dictate to people who invent the culture what is what. im well aware who buys records.but the real for real was never about record sales. its about staying credible with ur core,ur base. grimey street wise no BS taken afro americans and their latin counterparts are the core audience of true hiphop. f*** what u heard. and if u can concur with real talk,f*** what u think as well. stop playing.

if u have not learned to call a spade a spade,because ur a simple minded mongo who insist on being knee jerk ,that is ur problem. i am only responding to these things because i dont see many who are capable of context(or a non ironic sense of humor). u urself made a epistimologically absolute statement about a entire racial sub group.but cannot see why someone who just happens to of that group may call u out,at the least. ur a waste of typing. but at least now u know it. 🙂

Who said the girl was RACIST ?!?!?!? SMH Yal, going too far now. ITs a big difference between not liking a comment and calling her racist. Some of yal on here wasnt even looking her way until she changed her appearance and put this song out so stfu.

I see some very good points in the comment section except to the people accusing others of “crying out racism”. Let me just say that no one really cares if she wants to more “urban” sounding music like Hip hop, R&B (etc.). The problem is that she basically referred to it as “black music”. No one is saying that she is a racist but they are saying that she is ignorant for the comment which is true.

No it’s not. How can those genres be “black music” if :
1) Other races make music in the genre
2) Other races listen to it
3) Black people produce music in other genres of music like Pop
4) If not all black people listen to.
You need to realize that “black” is a general word therefore to describe music as “black” in this sense is completely inaccurate.

RachJune 13, 2013

@Touche But I think people describe it that way because of its association and origins. Especially R&B aka ‘Rhythm & Blues’, The Blues being song sung by slaves. And then turned into R&B by African Americans. So in a sense yes it is black music technically as it originated from them but in the present day there are no restrictions or boundaries to the type of music any race makes.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@Rach, Wrong, doesn’t matter if it was created by black people. It is NOT called “black music”. To say a particular genre is “black or even white (etc.)” music is to imply that it is only made by black or white people (etc.) and that they are the only group who listens to it. Terms like Black are too broad to describe such a subject which is why it’s false.

RachJune 13, 2013

But when people say that, I’m sure majority of them know that it is not only black people that listen to, make or produce that music. In Western Society you cant avoid R&B/Hip-Hop music so I’m sure most know this. They say it based on association. Years back, it was only black people that made R&B music, the fact they created it does matter because its the reason its associated with the culture. Its like saying Pizza is Italian food. Which it is, but not only Italian people make it and eat it (that was the best example I could think of off the top of my head lol)

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@Rach, “But when people say that, I’m sure majority of them know that it is not only black people that listen to, make or produce that music”?
I don’t care if even Jesus Christ himself knows that it’s not only black people who listen to it. It’s politically incorrect and that’s it. You can try and justify it all you want with your personal opinion but “black” is too general of a term to use for a label such as that. Black doesn’t just refer to African Americans. It refers to Black South Americans, Europeans, Asians, Africans (etc.); which is essentially why the title “black music” can not be correct whatsoever.

“Years back, it was only black people that made R&B music”? And how exactly do you know that for certain? You have no idea what independent/ underground music artists of all races have done so you can’t blatantly say that.

“the fact they created it does matter because its the reason its associated with the culture”?
And? Just because it’s associated with our culture does not mean that it needs to be incorrectly labeled. If it’s R&B than it’s called R&B, if it’s Hip hop than it’s called Hip hop, if it’s Blues than it’s called Blues, if it’s Funk than it’s called Funk (etc.).

Now like I said before, you can try to justify it with your opinion all you want to but the fact still remains that it’s politically incorrect and there’s nothing more to it.

RachJune 13, 2013

@Touche I never said it was right though I actually agree with your original point I’m just looking at it from a different standpoint the way many people see it general whether its right or not. And as a black person myself I don’t get offended. R&B music is associated with black people for a reason and its not a bad thing. A politically perfect way of seeing/saying everything is unrealistic. People don’t look into that much depth. And when people say ‘R&B’ is a black genre I understand why. There’s no need to get defensive we are on the same page but in this world nothings ever going to be perfect, its about looking at the bigger picture. There are worse things being a said.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

“I never said it was right though I actually agree with your original point I’m just looking at it from a different standpoint the way many people see it general whether its right or not”?
And that’s the problem with society, there are too many generalizations going around like nobody’s business.

“R&B music is associated with black people for a reason and its not a bad thing”? No, it’s only associated with us African Americans and you are right it’s not a bad thing but it is a bad thing when people say it’s “black people music”.

“A politically perfect way of seeing/saying everything is unrealistic” I never said nor implied that it was perfect but in this case, what I stated to you was the truth which too many people don’t know which is why there is a problem.

“People don’t look into that much depth.
That’s for sure.

“And when people say ‘R&B’ is a black genre I understand why. There’s no need to get defensive we are on the same page but in this world nothings ever going to be perfect, its about looking at the bigger picture. There are worse things being a said.”

I am not getting defensive in any way, I am simply correcting people who knowingly spread their ignorance for their own personal agenda. Also, I am addressing this issue because just like so many others issues, without confrontation there will never be a solution. It will just be ignored which will do nothing for society.

RachJune 13, 2013

‘I am simply correcting people who knowingly spread their ignorance for their own personal agenda. Also, I am addressing this issue because just like so many others issues, without confrontation there will never be a solution’

Ok but I don’t see what’s bad about certain genres of music (Jazz, R&B, Hip-Hop etc) being celebrated as just ‘black’ music anyway (not what Miley said). Its something black people have to their name (metaphorically speaking) I see it as more of a good generalization than bad. Like I said before, there are much worse things being said/ much worse generalizations being made.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@ Rach, I respect your opinion. I say we agree to disagree.

RachJune 13, 2013

Same to you. At least I actually had a diplomatic conversation with someone which is rare on this blog lol.

F*** Your Swag, I’m Dope.June 13, 2013

Um…R&B, Hip Hop, Jazz, Gospel IS “black music.” There’s nothing wrong or incorrect with acknowledging that. Stop trying to play dumb and be forcibly PC. It was only 20 years ago that the R&B/Hip Songs chart on Billboard was called THE BLACK SINGLES chart. To deny that certain types of music has roots in, and is heavily representative of, a specific cultures/ethnicities/demographics of people is foolish and ignorant.

Furthermore, June is nationally recognized as “Black Music Month.” Google it and see what comes up.

You are just full of Ignorance like most of the idiots on this post. What part of “Black is a general term” does your illiterate self not understand? You can NOT label music with a broad term that refers to people of African decent in all parts of the world. It was “African Americans” who created that music not other black people from around the world so your point remains invalid.

WTFJune 15, 2013

tell the truth,and shame the devil! ..right on!

ratedxxx(my favs stays on))June 13, 2013

I’m tired of people crying racism for every little damn thing…

where’s the racism when your fav is wearing long blond weave, lighting their skin, so on….

so what if she want’s to record black music….s*** do you know how many times Caucasian stole our music and trying to pass it as their own..cough adele, amy, joss..so on…and they make millions…

wft is up with miley , i don’t even like that song we cant stop , it was reported that she would be doing song country and hip-hop , well , we cant stop don’t sound like country and hip-hop , bring back the country , pop, miley please

My dear God, what did i say, it’s is true just look at this site, blacks are so mean and judgemental with their own people.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@ Suicide Blonde, “it’s is true just look at this site, blacks are so mean and judgemental with their own people”? So your p*** poor evaluation of us is based off of a few random people on the internet? How shallow of you.

COLTONJune 13, 2013

Okay.

So……

On blogs such as ‘Pop crush, ABC Daily, The Wire, Idolator, Radar Online, Perez etc… Whites aren’t bashing their own people too.

I.understood your point, but it sounded generalistic and ignorant as hell.

Not every Black person is going to love every Black person.

Just like not every white person loves another white person.

COLTONJune 13, 2013

@Touche…

Exactly.

I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.

America was built on stereotypes and racial generalisations… So… Every Black in America (African American) is the same… Every Black Caribbean person is the same, every Black native African person is the same.

WHATEVER…

Suicide BlondeJune 13, 2013

@Colton
@Touché
I still think they make such a big deal out of everything, not only in this site, I know many people of color and they have less acceptance in regards many things, they are more traditional than whites IMO, not all of them though.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@ Colton, Agreed.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

@ Suicide Blonde, “not all of them though” And that’s what you should have said in the first place, that some of us blacks or people of other races act like that. That way you wouldn’t have been generalizing.

There’s enough air in your head to inspire a cyclone. Seriously, were you born dumb or did somebody drop you on your head. And, yeah, I guess I am being judgmental when I say that you are an idiot, who I suspect is missing a gene. Shut up.

put beyonce where? oh you mean that I should include her in the people who gets bashed?

there’s a reason why her name wasnt included on my lists..because her stans are the main ones to bash all those people I put down…..bash keri hilson 24/7 because made a song, she never name names though, but you stans stay on her twitter,facebook, ect…calling her all types of name, wishing death on her….

what bashing does beyonce get? saying shes a fraud, that she steals other people s***, that her whole career is based of swagger jacking other folks….thats not bashing when we have the receipts to prove it.

RachJune 13, 2013

But you are talking about ‘black people’ in general being judgemental not individual stan bases. Firstly Beyoncé, is not responsible for her stans actions and secondly you are talking about being judgemental when you are doing exactly the same thing by putting everyone in the same box. What bashing does Beyoncé get? Um let me think of most recent people going IN on her childs hair and how she dresses her child, and just what she does with her child point blank perios. Just about everything Beyoncé does gets over analysed and judged and not just in her career sweety from her personal life to her looks don’t play dumb like that. That’s like me saying what bashing does Rihanna get? Being called lazy, a druggie, not having sufficient ability on stage, slutty? Well I have receipts to prove that too. You just sound incredibly biased what goes for one, should apply to the other.

ratedxxx(my favs stays on))June 13, 2013

@Rach…….yes I partly blame beyonce for her dumb stans , she called her self king..she made a songs about basic b****** to bow down to her…..she told to beehive to go after the wasps..

she gives her stans alot of ammo to go attack other stan base….calling people wasps come on

of course everything beyonce does in her life is going to get judge, why because she tries to portray this, I’m better than everybody else, I write all my songs,make all my decision..so when people catch her in a lie..of course they are going to tear her ass apart….

you stans and beyonce need to start taking responsibility for her actions…maybe if she didnt try to portray herself as this miss perfect..nobody would give to f*** about her ass..

and the majority of the attacks she gets has to do with her lies..lets keep it real..

yes I have notice her daughter gets make fun of…I don’t agree with it.. …

RachJune 14, 2013

So then when other stans wish death on a baby and go in on Ciara it doesn’t compare? Tha ts ridiculous they are individuals NOT all stans are the same. I am a Beyoncé stan and couldn’t give two f**** about Keri s don’t be JUDGEMENTAL.. Your dislike for Beyoncé is whats getting the way Im sorry. I don’t see you saying the same for Gaga and her Little Monsters when they attacked Kelly Osborne. ALL Stans have delusional out of control people. And I dont hold the stars responsible. And obviously I know everything Beyoncé does is there to be judged, just like all the other people you listed. And many of the things Rihanna gets bashed for is bought on herself. You are contradicting yourself. The fact remains Beyonce also gets BASHED just as much if not more than all of them in general. I don’t see Beyoncé a someone who thinks she better than everyone just because she metaphorically makes ego songs and uses the word ‘king’. Its all part of her stage persona. You NVER hear anyone who has ever encountered her say she is stuck up or thinks she better than anyone. In fact they say shes the opposite. People take music and acts too literally that’s all it is. You just don’t like Beyoncé (which of course is allowed) but its making you biased to whats real. What goes for one, applies to the other. Like I said before.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

B*******. I don’t where you get that info from but that is utter nonsense. You do not know every black person in the world to able to make such a statement like that. Besides, “calling out racism” on people is not synonymous with some random black people over the internet “bashing” black artists for their looks, music, (etc.). You and your ignorance can have several seats.

did you see me say every black person on the planet are judgmental and can be hypocrites….NO…

and of course I haven’t met every black people on the planet…how dumb are you to even make that statement

if you could comprehend words , you would see I said if you go on black blogs, never said every black blogs,

you need personal help obviously, jumping on somebody’s d*** for their opinions, that can be proven….my statements are based on facts…facts that blacks are very judgemental to other blacks..never said every black person feels that way

it’s not my damn fault you are so insecure with your self….I see you are the type to be the first one to yell racism..basically you just proved my point

you just proved that blacks are so quick to attack other blacks..you called me ignorant, for making a true statement..instead of taking your time to comprehend my statement or even do research,

TouchéJune 13, 2013

You are just full of s***. “did you see me say every black person on the planet are judgmental and can be hypocrites….NO…?”?

In your own ignorant words “It is true, black are more judgmental to our own race than other races, and sometimes the worst hypocrites…” “Blacks” is a BROAD term you dumbfuck. You can’t say that you were referring to some of them when you use terms like that and especially when you didn’t even use any other word to indicate that you were stating or implying that “some” of them do that.

“and of course I haven’t met every black people on the planet…how dumb are you to even make that statement”? No duh, I just said you haven’t met every black person on the planet you stupid b****. Why don’t you learn how to read before “attempting” to cleverly respond back.

“if you could comprehend words , you would see I said if you go on black blogs, never said every black blogs”?

And if you could comprehend the English language (Which obviously you can’t), than you would have realized that you gave no clear indication with the words of your statement that it was referring to only “some”.

“you need personal help obviously, jumping on somebody’s d*** for their opinions, that can be proven….my statements are based on facts…facts that blacks are very judgemental to other blacks..never said every black person feels that way”?

Honey, this is a COMMENT SECTION.Therefore I can respond to whoever I please including your stupid self. Your statements are based on the “facts” that come out of your ass lol? No wonder. You have no idea if it’s even “blacks” commenting on those “black blogs” because it’s either anonymous or because it’s the f****** INTERNET (which you clearly don’t understand), people can lie about their identity you idiot.

“you just proved that blacks are so quick to attack other blacks..you called me ignorant, for making a true statement..instead of taking your time to comprehend my statement or even do research”?

And how do you know that I am black? Have you met me in person? Oh that’s right you haven’t, I could be a f****** Asian for all you know. The only thing you proved is your ignorance which a lot of people on this website reveal every single day.

ratedxxx(my favs stays on))June 13, 2013

its not my fault you took my words personally….if I say that blacks are judgmental to other blacks, GUESS WHAT ITS MY F****** OPINION..an opinion that you just keep proving..

you can’t even have a normal conversation without the name calling….proving to white people that black are f****** ghetto as hell..

I couldnt give two f**** if you were white black asian…but you are giving black people bad names by the name calling…

the ironic thing is…thats why I cant stop laughing…..you trying to prove that not all black people are judgmental and hypocrites, and yet you called me how many names?

good job…..ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahh…..

TouchéJune 13, 2013

“its not my fault you took my words personally….if I say that blacks are judgmental to other blacks, GUESS WHAT ITS MY F****** OPINION..an opinion that you just keep proving..”?

Providing you with insight on the real world is not taking it personally. Also you’re right , these are “your opinions”; so there was no reason for why you had called them “facts” in your previous comment you hypocrite.

“you can’t even have a normal conversation without the name calling….proving to white people that black are f****** ghetto as hell..”

Idiot, had you read some of my previous comments to other people on this post, you would have seen that I didn’t curse or “name call”. You do realize that some white people as well as some people of other races also curse so I guess that makes them “ghetto” too by your retarded logic. Besides, “Name calling” or “Cursing” is not even synonymous with “Ghetto”, please educate yourself.

“I couldnt give two f**** if you were white black asian…but you are giving black people bad names by the name calling…”?

Can you really be this stupid? I do not represent anyone but myself just like everyone else does to themselves. I do not have an obligation or responsibility for anyone but myself just like everyone else does to themselves; so I can’t give “black people a bad name” lol. You definitely are a mentally disturbed human being.

“the ironic thing is…thats why I cant stop laughing…..you trying to prove that not all black people are judgmental and hypocrites, and yet you called me how many names?”?

Honey, do you even realize that you just described yourself? Your own illogical and generalizing comments about “black people” are also hypocritical and judgmental so why would you stupidly point that out in my comments as a defense? I mean how can a person not realize when they contradict themselves lol.

According to the English dictionary, “Ghetto” isn’t even a adjective you r*****. It’s a noun that describes a place. Please go back to school because you are deeply embarrassing yourself. Lastly, once again myself as single person does not represent a whole group, it’s clear your ignorance will take you nowhere in life. I suggest you personally learn how to actually think and research properly because parroting false information will do nothing for you.

TouchéJune 13, 2013

*an Adjective

WTFJune 15, 2013

now yall just sound like blog full of rupauls on GHB. im done with this. not even sure how i got here. ….kack.

RealJune 13, 2013

Fool. Let TMZ do a story about Miley and see how nice the comments from those presumably white readers will be. Being black and supportive doesn’t mean that blindly waving pompoms at anything any black person does, just because. Just like everyone else, black people celebrates who and what they find acceptable, and naysays who and what they don’t. Period.

fool..yea proving the point I made..blacks are judgmental towards black… you couldnt make your point without calling somebody a fool….

how hard is it to comprehend words…..the point I was making was…the same people who claims we need to support our black women/men..are the same ones on a ciara, keri, mariah, kelly so forth, tearing these women down….

its one thing if you don’t like their music or personality, but attacking them, wishing death threats, praying for their fall down..come on

I never said every black person has to support every other black person….I don’t..if you are putting garbage music, garbage clothing/perfume out..hell no I’m not going to support your ass

RachJune 13, 2013

It was ignorant of her to say and I just hope shes not uneducated in the variety of music black people make. But not racist. People throw that word around too loosely. Unfortunately that kind of a persona and behaviour is a huge stereotype for black people in todays music. Lets not act like we have never stereotyped before. My issue with Miley is why exactly. Being a try hard is not cute.

Haha, it’s out of this world, i remember when it came out, God i’m such an old hag.

dustinJune 13, 2013

people are some fools let me tell you. sam, you aren’t right for revving people up on hot button issues like racism and prejudice just for f***** hits. miley has firmly ensconced herself in a group of BLACK artists (f*** the urban b******* cause its irrelevant). if she meant any harm by what she said, do you really think those people (like snoop, pharrell etc) would be coming to bat for her OVER AND OVER AGAIN? i think not.

sam should really just go pick apart some rihanna performance to b**** about or jerk off to another pic of rita ora and calvin harris (his favorite passtime).

When willythis b**** get her own identity? First she was a Britney clone now she wants to be Rihanna. She flopped in pop and she thinks urban will take her? LOLOL!! Selena is better anyways. She pays homeage to Britney unlike Miley who just steals.

I’ll give Miley a pass because the girl is young and is still trying to find herself. Keep in mind that Miley was part of a Disney Corp marketing machine that obviously tried to make her out as Miss PERFECT because, well, she was a big CASH COW.

That said, I (like many other people) did not know who Miley really was outside the marketing dollars at Disney Corp, she might have been all hood to begin with or maybe feels more comfortable taking this route. She is young, free of the Disney faux and can finally determine herself as an artist musically and image wise. Maybe this is who she is, or who she wants to become, to early to tell.

like I said where’s the racism when a black person tries to be white by lighting their skin tone, wearing blond wigs…putting contact lenses in their eyes so on..
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Are you somebody of the Black race? If so, what ethnicity are you? African-American? A Black Caribbean/West-Indian of African descent? A Native Black African from a country within the continent of Africa?

Do you even know what racism means?

By all means, @RatedXXX, I understand what you’re saying completely but a part of you must be feeling some sort of sensitivity to this topic?

If a Black (African-American) person, such as, Ravwn Symone for instance were to say “I want something that feels White? I want to do Folk music”, there would have just as big as an uproar from both Black AND White people alike, and that is the issue here.

But you’re correct to an extent – if we (as a Race) are going to harbour on ignorant ‘racial generalizations’ such as these, we won’t get anywhere.

I really don’t think it’s a big problem with what she said.There has been way worse said about blacks.
I respect others opinions and they are indeed entitled to them, however we make it easy for whites or other races to make generalized statements when it comes to our culture.
Turn on the radio right now and go to an urban station, if it isn’t a bunch of rap music spewing the usual: big booty,S**,Popping mollies or other drugs or terrible singers with no substance behind the lyrics WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU EXPECT!
Blacks make Jazz,Pop,Fusion Jazz,Gospel,Christian,etc you wouldn’t know it today by what is considered music these days. This has got to be the worse era of MUSIC IN THE HISTORY OF MUSIC.

Yeah whatever its not PC but people are overreacting. I’m sure most of you know exactly what she meant though that’s the kiii of it all. There are much more pressing issues going on regarding race and generalizations that people should channel their agitation into. This is not it. But Miley is really just embarrassing herself at the moment. I just cant with her antics.

Miley never said that!! if you listen to the REAL interview rather than believing someone whose job it is write negatively about people who just want to make music then you’ll see that YOU are all the ignorant ones. Miley did say she wants to make urban music, but she never said “black”. its quite rude to twist peoples words around…. Obviously you have nothing better to do with your time so you bash other people. This is literally the dumbest article I’ve ever read lol

i love u guys but i dont agree with this article. planet iv is not the duo behind the We Cant Stop song. Mike Will Made it was not made with Miley in mind, therefore when she said ” i want something black” this song wasnt the product. The song is a hit, and so her, being smart, decided to record it. If youre going to use these words against her, you need to first, examine the product of the planet iv duo’s work on mileys album , and see if it is stereotypical or not.

Personally I think that Miley Cyrus should start f****** as much big black c*** as she can and be really slutty about it too. I think she’s look really f****** horny with her p**** all bare and a thick black c*** stretching her out. My hope would be that all her young female fans would follow suit and start spreading their legs for as many big black c**** as possible. There isn’t anything that feels as good as sinking into a white girls p**** that’s been well broken in for big black c****. All you girls out there, shave those hot little slits and go find yourself a different big black c*** every night for the next month. Miley Cyrus is telling you too.