I know you cant really judge a finished product on a very small demo, but FFS, they been developing this game for years and I dont think it looks as impressive as Forza 3 (and thats not a 360 fanboy talking because I own both consoles and would love GT5 to rock)

I've only played the games because they were pretty. I've never been fond of their gameplay. I played the same map in GT2 when I was little over and over until I bought every upgrade for the Viper and painted it blue. XD

U say this like uve yet to play because u cant use the wheel... i think its best to reserve judgment until you play the game.. unless blind fanboyism is ur thing

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Like I said, IM not a fanboy for either console. But its really disappointing to think that a lot of people have waited ages for this game and it doesnt look like its going to be everything we hoped for.

The gameplay on the finished game may be better than whats displayed in the demo, but the visuals are nothing special...........and these cant be changed at this stage of the games development!

I just gone done trying out 3 laps in the stock car, physics felt dead on, the car looked great, I'm not sure what your griping about. The track and the side of the track look like absolute ass cheeks, but it's pretty obvious this is a test track, GT3 on PS2 had better looking tracks than this, if you really think thats going to be in the final copy, your crazy. I'm going to be playing this like crazy, must win 370Z.

I just gone done trying out 3 laps in the stock car, physics felt dead on, the car looked great, I'm not sure what your griping about. The track and the side of the track look like absolute ass cheeks, but it's pretty obvious this is a test track, GT3 on PS2 had better looking tracks than this, if you really think thats going to be in the final copy, your crazy. I'm going to be playing this like crazy, must win 370Z.

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I know THIS isnt the final game, but usually, demos are meant to 'wow' us (ie I just played through the PS3 demo of Dantes Inferno and Im dying to get my hands on the finished game now!). This demo has just confirmed to me that GT5 is too little too late.

This may be a test track, but visually it should look as good as one of the tracks that will end up in the finished game? Why release a demo that includes a track that has very low quality visuals? To put people off?

Ive played every single GT title (apart from that crap on the PSP) so I am a GT fan, but I cant help feeling that theyve left it too late to release GT5 and its going to have a tough time competing with the likes of Forza.

Blind Sony fanboyism (if thats a word) will be THE only reason anyone is impressed with this demo!

I really really want to be wrong about GT5 because I love driving sims

This isn't a demo of Gran turismo 5. Its a time trial with the new physics for the GT academy to get their candidates. So basically you can use the following to judge the final game:

graphics
physics

The graphics looked the same as prologue and i think they look fantastic not sure what other game out there looks significantly better. Forza 3 basically comes down to opinion. For what ive seen the cars in gt5p look better, but forza has more detail into the background.

There could be a real GT5 demo in the future to give a better understanding of the game. As this doesn't have the damage model nor upgrades.

I cant say i was impressed with the track background, but other tracks like the one they've had demoing in the various games shows has a nice background. The thing i was impressed with was the physics. They are definately improved. No worries im sure the final game will be a nicely finished product when it eventually comes out.

I know THIS isnt the final game, but usually, demos are meant to 'wow' us (ie I just played through the PS3 demo of Dantes Inferno and Im dying to get my hands on the finished game now!). This demo has just confirmed to me that GT5 is too little too late.

This may be a test track, but visually it should look as good as one of the tracks that will end up in the finished game? Why release a demo that includes a track that has very low quality visuals? To put people off?

Ive played every single GT title (apart from that crap on the PSP) so I am a GT fan, but I cant help feeling that theyve left it too late to release GT5 and its going to have a tough time competing with the likes of Forza.

Blind Sony fanboyism (if thats a word) will be THE only reason anyone is impressed with this demo!

I really really want to be wrong about GT5 because I love driving sims

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See here's what I'm fine with, not liking the demo, but what doesn't make any sense is you know that that track isn't a final product, and yet you seem to be placing that on saying the game will be bad when it releases? This is a contest, it maybe called a demo, but it's a promotion to show off physics accuracy. But hey if all your looking for is graphics to determine how great a DRIVING SIMULATOR is, then you might feel that Burnout is the best driving simulator around.

I would say that anyone stepping into this demo looking for stellar graphics over realistic gameplay, just isn't a true racing sim fan. If it looked amazing, but the cars handled like they were n super glue would you be happier? I just want to remind you, GT5 Prologue, the tracks didn't look like the one in the demo.

So if your unhappy with the choice of detail on the demo's track fine, but when you know that that isn't going to be so scarcely detailed when the game comes out, then you say you think it's going to be bad when it releases

Also just to get it out of the way sense you want to call on fanboyism, but also want to step back and separate yourself from fanboys, you had a 360 design as your avatar for a long time and have posted in numerous threads favoring 360, everyone has a favorite system, who cares.

well, i've never gottin' in on one of these discussions, so nows a good time to start.

My brother-in-law has a Wii, the new PS3, a lappy, and board games. When we go over to their house, we play all of 'em. I never got into the Wii, i just don't like the controllers. This past Sunday, we cracked open GTV, and i played for hundreds of laps...

...but my fav was Grand Prix 2. Had the wheel and everything. I couldn't believe the detail of the game. Not necessarily the graphics, but the physics, changing the car around, the telemetry, the analysis you could do.

Playing GTV gave me such a rush, I am seriously going to start racing again, BUT, on my PC.

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So, I guess I need to play the demo, not just Prologue. I didn't know Prologue was different from the next GT5 to come out.

Can't exactly remember the names of the courses, but i raced on the mountain track in a lotus, on suzuka east (lotus and honda integra).

Does a racing sim like GP2 exsist? when i go home for christmas, i'm gonna find the disks and try to run it.