I remember reading another story like that, a dogs owner died when the dog was 2, and for 16 years that dog went to the pub where his owner brought him, ate a steak they gave him, and went to his owners grave and sat there, only to do it again the next day. When the dog died, they buried him next to his owner and named the graveyard after him.

Wow... if you check out the review section a lot of people I am bashing the episode because it was sad. Reminds me of my roomate who hated anything where a. Bad things happened to the main characters b. Characters change.

This episode, to me, showed what Futurama has and The Simpsons has lost... heart. The Simpsons has lately been nothing more than an endless stream of surreal wackiness, crude single-entendres, and pointless celebrity cameos (at least the ones on Futurama don't seem so obligatory).

I don't think The Simpsons, even in its heydey, got THIS dark, though. But for this series, it works.

I loved it. There's flaws, and you knew ahead of time Seymour wasn't coming back. But damn, it makes you wish he had. I was excited to see Nibbler's shadow and eye in the episode, shows there's Nibblonian involvement in Fry's being around.

Favorite quotes and parts -

"Let this abomination unto the Lord begin!"

Leela preparing to rip off the top half of her leotard - you get quite a peek. Teeheehee, I'm a cartoon ogling pervert.

Leela kicking Amy's butt was funny as well as provocative. You just know Leela is loving it, with the animosity between her and Amy.

Zoidberg bursting out of the box and getting smacked was great.

Bender came out and said "THAT'S why the call me Bender the magnificent!" which tied in nicely with earlier when he told Fry "Naw, that's not why they call me bender the magnificent".

Right after that, I got a real laugh from "Hey, where'd everybody go?"

The music and dancing early on were excellent, and Leela's book about the tribal rituals of the Bronx or whatever was a nice little joke to add.

And everything the professor said was great, more or less.

And the dog thing hit close to my heart... I've got two black labs, and one is 10 years old, with inoperable cancer. She'll be dead in a few months, we're pretty sure. Which is a real shame, I love my dogs.

Seymour's story can be taken to have other meanings too - that Fry is an alright guy. His family was a bunch of louts, but he was still kind to the dog and earned its undying love.

Still, it's so sad. The dog pined away over 12 years, waiting for Fry..... and then fry threw it away without ever knowing, trying to do the mature thing (and probably trying to spare Bender's emotions too).

I remember reading another story like that, a dogs owner died when the dog was 2, and for 16 years that dog went to the pub where his owner brought him, ate a steak they gave him, and went to his owners grave and sat there, only to do it again the next day. When the dog died, they buried him next to his owner and named the graveyard after him.

I 've heard of another similar story about a street dog Patrasche, and his owner Nello, in the city of Antwerp (Belgium). They even made a movie of it. Here

Edit: moral of the story: there must be dozens of similar stories out there.------------------Don't look a gift whore in the mouth.

Um, haven't seen this brought up yet: was anyone else expecting to see Seymour get flash-fossilized at the end of the episode? You know, thus explaining how he made it to y3kn in the first place? He can't just lay down and die of old age - HE WAS FLASH FOSSILIZED! (If this comes up again in any of the remaining episodes, don't tell me about it. I'll wait for it.)

I love the cloning table gag: the setup that the table is going to ascend to the sky, ala Young Frankenstein, and then of course we descend to the lava pit instead. Nice.

The moral of the story is us idiots who didn't tape the show like they should have will have to wait to see that wrasslin match between Leela and Amy when it shows up on Cartoon Network. Cause god forbid us Region 1 Types could get some sort of DVD Set...errrs....That match reminded me of the first season Farscape Ep between Eryn and an alien woman who's name escapes me....

I enjoyed that episode a lot. Especially the scene with Nibbler's eye and the shadows (which I didn't recognize at first) got me on the edge of the seat.

Regarding the scene with Amy and Leela wrestling, I thought it was intentional that they were integrated into the plot without any reason- actually, that is what made it so funny. To me, It seemed like a parody of shows which integrate sex without any necessity. Especially since their explanation regarding the reason for their wrestling was so ridiculous.

After all, the animations of two half-naked cartoon characters can hardly work as a turn on, now, could they? (Well, admittedly, it did work for me, but it probably wouldn't for your average non-geeky, healthy viewer. )

Originally posted by impact:what's with the edit button? I don't see much mistakes in either post... in fact, I don't see any...

We like to avoid needless double-posts. If you didn't know that already.

I don't have any strong feelings about this ep. I think Fry did the right thing by opting not to clone the dog. If those last scenes hadn't been shown, a majority would most likely agree. Hindsight is always 20/20 and we got to see what Fry didn't. If I were in Fry's place, I would have done the same thing. Also the dog died at the age of 15. He couldn't have lived much longer if he was an exact clone. Also, I don't think that it would have been quite the same, regardless of having the same memories.

Plus, he would have memories of his own death. It's one thing to have been frozen, quite another to realize you had already died.

Besides the sad aspect of the ep, I quite enjoyed it. I didn't cry at the end. Instead I screamed at Fry for missing that delicious opportunity to observe Leela and Amy wrestling in sexy outfits. I also screamed at Fry's parents for being within 2 inches of their missing son and just walking away. I could have gone the rest of my life not knowing his parents had almost seen him and done nothing. Yes, I know there wouldn't be a show if they had, but that was just stupid.

Wonderful episode! How FOX in good conscience can cancel this marvelous show is beyond me. Have they ever tried to watch it? I can do nothing but agree with those who said that no show, not even the Simpsons in their prime, can combine humor and raw emotions this well.

Let's get the bad points out of the way first.

The extra shadow bothered me too. This is not AOI I, it's supposed to be exactly like in SP3K. But maybe it'll be explained in "The Why Of Fry", much like Nibbler's shadow in SP3K really wasn't explained until "The Day Earth Stood Stupid".

Although they're out of touch with reality, even Fry's parents should be able to see Fry in the cryogenics tube when they kneeled beside Seymore. Would've worked better if the cryogenics employee picked him up, and handed him to them.

Sadly Hermes is missing.

Now that my inner nitpicker has been satisfied onto the good parts:

Good story, and nicely woven together. The flashback scenes worked really well here as well.

Farnsie's fascination with dolemite was excellent. "By contrast; observe the lavas effect on this ice-swan. Offcourse that would've melted even at roomtemperature, I just wanted to get rid of it." "It's dolemite, baby!"

Good walkonparts of Scruffy, even Cubert was alright. I loved the toe-part for some reason.

Fry's dad was great. Talking about Y2K's prowling the streets, looking for innocent victims, transforming into SCUD-missiles and exploding riwers.

Bender and Zoidberg's parts was great. "You lived before you met me?" "Interesting, no the other thing; tedious."

Fry and Seymore. Good evolvement of Fry's character, he's actually doing the right thing. So sad. Although you gotta wonder why Seymore never came up before. At least he should've asked Michelle about him. Very good show, with a rather sad ending. Not tear-jerking like "Luck Of The Frysih" and "Leela's Homeplanet", but sad nonetheless. I've never liked dogs, so that might be why the ending didn't seem so emotionally to me. I liked the sad story, but couldn't relate to it.

Did I forget somebody? ::counts on fingers::

Voice from offscreen: "Psst, Leela and Amy.""They were in this episode?"Well, it looks like we've seen the first hints of the spiced up Futurama. May I just say, I like it!! Oh my, yes I did. Someone said it's probably a reference/joke about shows putting scenes like this in on the flimsiest of reasons, just listen to Leela's half-hearted explanation. Still it was a great scene. And ofcourse we always knew Leela could kick Amy's butt from here to Mars with one eye closed, and she did seem to enjoy it. How about that, little miss "Womansizes"? [/list]

Originally posted by Teral:Although they're out of touch with reality, even Fry's parents should be able to see Fry in the cryogenics tube when they kneeled beside Seymore. Would've worked better if the cryogenics employee picked him up, and handed him to them.

I always thought that the glass in Fry's cryogenic tube was covered with enough frost to obscure his face. After all, when Fry worked in the cryogenics chamber, he often had to wipe away the frost with his hand to see in. It could just be that the ice made it too difficult to see inside.

Originally posted by evan: I always thought that the glass in Fry's cryogenic tube was covered with enough frost to obscure his face. After all, when Fry worked in the cryogenics chamber, he often had to wipe away the frost with his hand to see in. It could just be that the ice made it too difficult to see inside.

Originally posted by impact: try watching leela almost ripping her suit off in slo-mo over and over and over...

Someone should do a wallpaper of that moment.

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Originally posted by impact:*cough* parallel universe theory would nicely explain that *cough*

Probably, but then Future Fry was missing his cowboy hat. I guess there is some sort of "Back To The Future" explanation to it all. Could be allright, as long as it's not a "Voyager" style explanation. ::Sideshow Bob shudder::

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Originally posted by evan:I always thought that the glass in Fry's cryogenic tube was covered with enough frost to obscure his face. After all, when Fry worked in the cryogenics chamber, he often had to wipe away the frost with his hand to see in. It could just be that the ice made it too difficult to see inside.

Still, Seymour could see Fry so his parents should be able to see his pants and shoes as well. It's nothing big, I just think it would've worked better the other way.

I thought it was a pretty good episode, but then again I haven't seen an episode I absolutely hated. I saw the Nibbler eye when I first saw it on tv and thought that was funny, I'll have to go back and find the shadows though. I think they do that scene over and over again though, there are things different from eachother in SP3K, AOI, and this episode.

I have to admit I was disappointed after seeing this episode. I was told it was great, but in the end, the writers had done nothing but scraping the bottom of the barrel of whatever material they had left from Luck of the Fryrish (which was the best episode ever). Come on, with the exception of the reference to Dolemite and the 2-hour yipping session, it was horrible. I rated it 1 (Bad).The whole Seymore-thing... I'm sure it was supposed to be all sad and emotionally charged, but from the moment they found Seymore, it was so "obvious" what would happen next. They didn't even try to make room for any surprises (in stark contrast to the Luck of the Fryrish). I was really disappointed in this episode.

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