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Tobi/Madara's Weakness

Now, as up untill now we've seen Tobi rasengan'd, slashed, amaterasu'd, exploded, and bugg'd. He hasn't been hurt by ANY of it. Now, I'm not sure if Kakashi (in the manga) said this, but Tobi's probably using a dimensional-sharingan thing. He's using the same thing as Kakashi's MS, only it's obviously much more advanced and etc. Tobi/Madara can't be killed by normal means, not even through amaterasu (or, presumtively, susano).

So what if Madara faced a blast from Kakashi's MS, sending him into another dimension. I'm nearly 100% sure that would at least hurt him.

It hasnt been confirmed that the first beat him. you dont even know what happened in that fight. more than likely madara let him win cuz madara's to good. I mean the first got killed by kakuza so how could i be weaker than him if im stronger thatn kakuza.

And if u say that kakuza didnt beat the 1st go to one of the mangas when kakuza fight konoha ninja like when he unleashes the five herarts thing. He says he killed the 1st.

This isnt about if Madara would win or not, it's about whether or not he could survive, say, his arm being shot into another dimension.

And, Sage, I'm assuming we should NOT get Madara over there started about this Because he DOES have a valid arguement, all of the Konoha ninjas could be under some ploy that the 1st beat madara as far as we know

Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha

when kakuza fight konoha ninja like when he unleashes the five herarts thing. He says he killed the 1st.

Though I'm sure you're right, it's a little hard to believe that a group of konoha ninja (plus naruto) beat the guy who killed the 1st (who was not necessarily in his prime)

We don't know they were fighting over control of Konoha. It's all qutie a bit sketchy, and we probably won't know the truth until next chapter, or the one after that, when Madara continues on about the founding of the leaf (he'll get to this fight eventually)

what else was there to fight about except domination. im pretty sure it wasnt just a friendly duel . I guess well have to wait then but i'm convinced maadara will twist the truth to get sasuke on his side for his own plans and thats why itachi wanted sasuke far away from maadara as possible.