Trouble logging in?If you can't remember your password or are having trouble logging in, you will have to reset your password. If you have trouble resetting your password (for example, if you lost access to the original email address), please do not start posting with a new account, as this is against the forum rules. If you create a temporary account, please contact us right away via Forum Support, and send us any information you can about your original account, such as the account name and any email address that may have been associated with it.

The way I see it, it seems the Pleiades Saints searched, and worked out a partial solution to fulfilling that goal. With more resources (magic, and numbers of Puella Magis) and the luxury of time to work out a solution. Plus, if indeed, Nico is an Incubator, and Jyubey has helped a great deal, Incubator assistance. After all, I shudder to think how much energy the Incubators have harvested from Kazumi's grief seed.

If somehow, Witches could be stopped from rampaging and reverted back to to some semblance of humanity and sentience, that'd likely be considered a significant triumph for the Incubators. It'll be far easier to convince a Puella Magi to witch out, if retaining your sentience and sanity was possible and doable even then.

Kazumi Magica isn't Lighter and Softer. It's more horrific than the anime itself, since it explores the "unconventional" manipulation of Soul Gems and Grief Cubes in detail. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pleiades Saints turned out to be Incubator Guinea Pigs.

That's what Ive been saying, what Kyuubei said on ch 5 i think "Do you think things will go well this time pleadies?"

That single phrase might mean that this is all Kyuubei's plan, and that he's just experimenting with the pleadies, while they think they are "fooling" the magical girl system. In reality, they might just been the guinea pigs for Kyuubei's entropy plan.

Nico explains that Saki is using her magic to massively slow down her life functions and prevent herself from becoming a witch. Mirai runs up to Saki through the lightning pillar and hugs her. Saki starts to bleed from her face.

Saki's life-function speed magic is usually signaled by thunderbolts, which is why she's surrounded by lightning right now.

There is a brief flashback of Saki and Mirai talking in a park. Saki asks her why a nice person like her doesn't have any friends. Mirai says it's because she uses the pronoun "boku" and everyone thinks she's weird for it. Saki says that it's not weird at all— in fact, she herself used "boku" when she was little, until her dad told her to cut it out. She also says that Mirai reminds her of herself when she was younger.

Despite her best efforts, Saki runs out of stamina and turns into a witch. Mirai makes no attempt to attack it, stands there, and gets Mami'd.

Nico shouts "Connect!", wraps the witch up in a giant chain, and slams it against the ground. (I dunno if this kills it or not but it gets it out of the picture for the rest of the chapter.) She then turns to the shocked Umika and Kaoru and begins to explain who she is.

Kazumi is awake in Nico's backpack-tube, so she hears this too. Also she's like banging on the glass and stuff.

Nico Kanna's name was originally Kanna Hijiri. Kanna's wish was to create a duplicate of herself. This duplicate would have never been involved in the accident that killed her friends, and would have a happy life with her family— sort of like a living what-if scenario. She didn't wish that the incident never happened, because she didn't want to just erase her own guilt over it, but she still wanted to see what her life could have been like. Kanna gave her own name to the duplicate, and took the name "Nico Kanna".

Kanna Hijiri had a perfectly normal life, until she witnessed Nico and the rest of the Pleiades fighting Yuuri's witch. Juubey met with her soon after, and told her what she was. Kanna was enraged that her life and memories were fabricated by Nico, and contracted with Juubey. Her wish was to be able to "connect" with the Pleiades without them realizing it, and use their knowledge and abilities to take revenge against them.

Kanna created the Evil Nuts by "connecting" Umika and Nico's abilities; they use Umika's magic to analyze their victim's grief, then Nico's magic to turn them into a witch based on that grief. She distributed them to Airi and the Soujus, and sent them out to attack the Pleiades. Aside from Yuuri trying to kidnap Kazumi and turning into a witch, the plan was going pretty well, but now that Kazumi has become unstable, things have gone downhill.

Umika asks Kanna why she's trying to take Kazumi. Kanna answers that Kazumi, and all the other girls in the Freezer, are important for her plans. Artifical magical girls like Kanna and Kazumi aren't real humans, and Kanna wants very badly to be real. Her goal is to wipe out mankind with the help of the girls in the Freezer— and then, once all the real people are gone, the artifical magical girls that are left will be the new "real" people. Also, Kanna is a little bit crazy.

Kanna refers to the artifical magical girls as "Hyades" as the half-sisters of the Pleiades who'll take over from humanity.

The chapter ends as Kanna transforms and prepares to attack the Pleiades.
Also, her magical girl outfit is significantly different from Nico's. We never actually saw Nico transform outside of flashbacks after chapter 9, too.

A worthy story in the Madoka Magica Universe! This really deserves a One Cour anime, or at least an OAV Series! Madoka Magica is just the surface, and Kazumi Magica is a perfect exemplar of all the off-screen nastiness merely hinted at in the original anime itself.

Kanna Hijiri had a perfectly normal life, until she witnessed Nico and the rest of the Pleiades fighting Yuuri's witch. Juubey met with her soon after, and told her what she was. Kanna was enraged that her life and memories were fabricated by Nico, and contracted with Juubey

So my wild guess is that...

Spoiler for guessing:

As fake nico can duplicate the pleadies powers, he might have used Umika's power to once again re-write Juubey's memories so that he only acts as if he didn't know.

I noticed something major, besides the apparent proximity of Taurus and Gemini to the Pleiades cluster there is a major patter you get from putting every magical girl/witch in chronological order of contribution to the story.

Spoiler:

===Mami Tomoe/Candeloro - Capricorn===
Positive Traits

:• Practical and prudent (Get's the job done)
:• Ambitious and disciplined (Kick ass senpai)
:• Patient and careful (We all know what happens when she loses it)
:• Humorous and reserved (She is so cute yet she can't connect)

Capricorn Likes: hot, simple food, antiques, history, duties and responsibilities (Magica girl and mentor to the point of insanity), not being pressured by others, having plenty of unconditional love (Invitation with no exit), lots of personal privacy (Awesome appartment), new books, and expensive gemstones (Flashy as an angel Mami-san).

Capricorn Dislikes: untidiness and disorder of all kinds, being teased (Damn, Tiro Finale it's not funny Kyoko!), surprises (Sup Charlotte?), new ideas (Magical girl are witches my ass!), loneliness (OH YEAH!), being made to feel useless or incompetent (Relying to much on Kaname-san makes me witch out), and being embarrassed in public.

===Kyoko Sakura/Ophelia - Aquarius===
Positive Traits

:• Friendly and humanitarian (True self)
:• Honest and loyal (Same as above)
:• Original and inventive (Cool and funny)
:• Independent and intellectual (Independent is an understatement)

Aquarius Likes: fame and recognition (I am awesome biatch!), personal privacy (Nothing I do is of your business), rainbows, dreams, magic, change for its own sake, eccentricity, surprises, and living within their means despite the many temptations which constantly surround them every waking moment (Oh, come on! Those last are her true self with a nail in the head).

Aquarius Dislikes: emotion and intimacy (Everyone I love dies), people who show off (Especially Sayaka), being taken for granted (Fought Sayaka and Homura), being pinned down, violence and fighting (Inverted for sour armor but straight for true self), and senseless or purposeless extravagance of any sort (SAYAKA!!!). (Also, let's not forget she drowned in death)

===Hungrige Pumpe - Pisces===
Positive Traits

:• Imaginative and sensitive
:• Compassionate and kind
:• Selfless and unworldly (Is there a self on a colony of jellyfish?)
:• Intuitive and sympathetic

Negative Traits

:• Escapist and idealistic (Breaks into familiars and regenerates like a balloon)
:• Secretive and vague (Ancient sea)
:• Weak-willed and easily led (I am a bunch of people)

:• Changeable and moody
:• Overemotional and touchy
:• Clinging and unable to let go (Guilty as a curse)

Cancer Likes: hobbies, romance, children, parties, home and country (Shoot people in USA).

Cancer Dislikes: failure, opposition (Can't stand being judged and destroy's everyone on sight), aggravating situations, being told what to do and being given advice...whether good or bad.

===Satomi Usagi/????? - Leo===
Positive Traits
:• Generous and warmhearted (Wants to take care of all poor animals)
:• Creative and enthusiastic (Miss sunshine)
:• Broad-minded and expansive
:• Faithful and loving (Sickening sweet when on a good mood)

Negative Traits
:• Pompous and patronizing (Glomps things on a marshmallow hell)
:• Bossy and interfering (Mind control magic and off rails much?)
:• Dogmatic and intolerant (Kazumi is a dirty witch who must die!)

Virgo Dislikes: squalor, uncertainty, health hazards, sloppy workers and anything deemed to be sordid (Thinks of Kazumi as a witch in human clothing). (Also, she got chomped before turning into a witch and died pure)

:• Jealous and resentful (I am not a real person and will kill humanity to be one!)
:• Compulsive and obsessive (That is also an understatement)
:• Secretive and obstinate (Trolled everyone behind the shadows)

Scorpio Likes: strenuous activity, the unraveling of mysteries, winning at any cost (Destruction of humanity much?), being acknowledged the undisputed champion of anything (Will be real when all else dies), and the comfort of their own homes (Her good life was a lie).

Scorpio Dislikes:being analyzed, being asked personal questions, new acquaintance, and having to trust a stranger with anything that they consider important enough to keep secure.

===Conclusion===
This leaves us with two signs left, Ophiuchus and Sagittarius.

I think that those will be respectively Kazumi and Madoka meaning that this series will be revealed as a prequel of sorts.