Expel Malema - ANC prosecutors

Cape Town - ANC prosecutors recommended that Julius Malema be expelled from the party, it was reported on Friday.

Both EWN and SABC News reported the information regarding the ANCYL president following the Johannesburg hearing into Malema’s 5-year suspension from the ANC which apparently went on until midnight.

Malema, his spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, league secretary general Sandiso Magaqa, treasurer general Pule Mabe and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi were found guilty in November of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party, partly for making comments about regime change in Botswana.

Malema, who was found to have compared President Jacob Zuma unfavourably to his predecessor, Thabo Mbeki, was suspended for five years. Shivambu, who insulted a journalist, was suspended for three years.

Magaqa, who was found to have made derogatory and potentially defamatory statements about Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba, received an 18-month suspension, suspended for three years, on condition he apologise within five days of receiving the penalty or appealing against it.

On February 4, the ANC's appeals committee announced it had dismissed attempts by Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa and the others to have the guilty verdicts against them overturned.

On Wednesday, a defiant youth league said that only those in the ANCYL could remove Malema from his position.

Comments

Elle-Black - 2012-02-17 08:55

I wonder where tis will end,its better than a soapie though.

Johan - 2012-02-17 09:06

A good soapie, yes. Much more realistic than the story about the criminal who became a president, while his partner in crime went to jail, who then ended up on his deathbed, and then became a golfer.

Willie - 2012-02-17 09:13

Get over this crap and move on

TSR01 - 2012-02-17 09:20

Better than a soapie, but dirtier than a shower - and a fishy smell of corruption which just won't go away. :)

Mike - 2012-02-17 09:35

First it was excel Malemmer, now it is expel Malemmer!
Can the anc please make up their minds so we can conclude this issue?

Alan - 2012-02-17 09:41

@ Elle .. Better than a soapie you say. The final episode will be when Juju has to use "Soapie on a Ropie' in the shower so that Big Bubba can't get him if he drops the soap. Whaahaa - just see how quickly the Hawks and SARS are gonna swoop after he is finally booted.

Fred - 2012-02-17 09:54

The disappointing thing is the most important charge, that of hate speech and inciting violence in our country, is not included in the outcome. The verdict was very self-centered, narcissistic really, of the ANC, less focused on the good of the country.

Makatikamusona - 2012-02-17 10:05

Fact of the Matter is that young black south Africans don't care about Malema being corrupt, as long as he raises important issues. And for as long we have white minority disrespecting the black government, blatantly refusing to discuss the nationalization of mines, land redistribution, the black south African stills struggle to penetrate and dominate the SA economy, we will continue to need the likes of Malemas' to raise these important issues, irrespective of whether they enrich themselves while doing it

Nkulekweni - 2012-02-17 10:23

Wow Makatika I think you make a good point. However is it too much to expect that there can be someone rising from the youth ranks...not necessarily ANCYL ranks who can speak about the unfinished struggle and also speak against corruption and nepotism; a person who will not occupy the position of leadership primarilty to enrich himself and who now and then when he remembers/sobers up use his whisky infused brain to spout revolutionary rhetoric to the masses. Are we that devoid of leadership as your comment suggests? Where are the Steve Biko's of our time?

FlowingRivers - 2012-02-17 10:24

MY MESSAGE TO THE ANC LEADERS...........NEVER DO WHAT YOUR ENEMY WANTS YOU TO DO.............................!

Mary-Ann - 2012-02-17 10:30

@ makatika: On the contrary, through my line of work I have spoken to a large number of young black men recently (in their 20's) who are all against Malema because he acts in self interest. As one said: "He is meant to represent the black youth, but he mis-represents me". And another young black man is making plans to emmigrate because he sees no future in the country when the ANCYL grow into the country's leadership. Malema's followers are a far smaller minority than we think.

Makatikamusona - 2012-02-17 10:47

@Andrew thus what I just said, until white south African change their mentality of about the government and black people in particular, they youth would just now care how it is done.
@Nkulekweni well I hear what you saying but those like Biko's still need to raise out of their conform zone and start leading the way, but they might change their approach when faced with the defiant white people.
@Mary-Ann if you say Malema does not have bigger support I would give you homework to go find out how many provinces do support Malema and think he represented their resolutions very well

Bibi - 2012-02-17 10:51

@MAKATIKA: nothing, nothing justifies fraud and corruption. It also won't stop when all apartheid evils are eradicated and you know as well as the rest of the world that the poor will stay poor. It is the downfall of many African (independant for 50+ years) countries. I do not know if you have travelled beyond Southern Africa, but most of these countries are being 'held' together by foreign AID and investments or being duped into new colonies of the Chinese.

Zulumfana - 2012-02-17 10:52

Makatina I beg to differ. Just ask 10 youth person in your area, you will be shocked by their responses. Its time you let go of your hero Malema as we are slowly lowering his coffin...he only cares about enriching himself and his crew.

Zulumfana - 2012-02-17 10:58

Dear Cde Makita
Malema is a noticable expired product in a shelf waiting for disposal....consider him gone and at this moment the ANC is serching for a safest landfill to acertain that he never resurfaces in 'OUR ECONOMIC FREEDOM OF OUR LIFE TIME."
He is devisive and racist catalst in a making...RIP
Yours cde Common Sense should prevail

J-Man - 2012-02-17 11:29

@ makatika: "don't care about Malema being corrupt" - exactly...and you say this like you are proud of it? He represents YOU, the Youth? So this is you role model? Ok.
2) "white minority disrespecting the black government, blatantly refusing to discuss the nationalization of mines" - Its not the "white minority" you idiot, the ANC GOVERNMENT said NUMEROUS times...wait...waaaiitt for it....: ITS NOT ANC POLICY! I hope you got it this time....No? Figured.
Seriously? Your "comments" and "arguments" are a joke. At least state the facts when you try to argue on here.

Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 11:29

Makatika it's just not the "whities" I am a black man and I too have no respect for our current government.Look at what is happening and ask yourself this.Who in their right mind would respect a government that happens to make headlines almost every day for corruption?Who would respect thieves who consistently rob the very country that they claim to serve?I in mt right mind most certainly do NOT respect our government. An average South African struggles to secure a job with a qualification yet we have unqualified cadres who are in charge of big positions and a president who does not even have a matric certificate.

Newsreader - 2012-02-17 12:04

Lelo.... We need more people like you get onto the network and start building a realistic campaign to end the gravy train government. White people will never achieve this, its only the sensible likes as yourself that can make a differance.

Bibi - 2012-02-17 12:06

@MAKATIKA: Do you really think that the money will trickle down to the poor with all of Malema's plans. Or will the black diamonds just enrich themselves further.
One other thing: the average white person will support any transparent and just government regardless of the colour. As law abiding, tax paying and voting citizens we have the right to criticise the government of the day be it pink or blue. That is not racism. Just remember the the government from the top down are only civil servants - there to serve ALL of us.

Mbulelo - 2012-02-17 12:27

Newsreader I sincerely believe that it should not be like that though, white people are just as much South African citizens as black and any other race in this country.In fact in my mind we are ultimately one race..THE HUMAN RACE.Yes apartheid affected us but the truth is,not every "whitie" was involved.I know a good number of white brothers and sisters who actually supported the fight for liberation but are conveniently forgotten when some narrow minded people defend their corrupt comrades!We all know the country's past, however I do strongly feel that we as a nation of South Africans need to focus on building our beloved country where there will be no whites,blacks,indians or coloreds...but just SOUTH AFRICANS who have equal rights to express views that are FOR the country's progress.

Thandiwe - 2012-02-17 12:52

@Makatika: How is it white people disrespecting the ANCYL policies? THE ANC ARE EXPELLING HIM - there are people of all races in the ANC. I have not met a professional of any colour who supports nationalization!
If nationalization is introduced legally (buying out companies), it will bankrupt the country and send the national debt way beyond Greece's level.
If nationalization is introduced illegally (legalizing government mine grabs), then South Africa will be kicked out of the World Trade Organization, removed from the U.N. Security council and South Africa will become one of the poorest countries in the world. Anyone with talent will leave the country (like me - I have a Master's in Mechanical engineering). There would be no point staying where skills are squandered.... Wake up!!

Makatikamusona - 2012-02-17 14:33

@Thandiwe You got it wrong there, I would never permanently leave South Africa for any country in the world, and I have Masters in Computer Engineering. See you wrong

gauchet1 - 2012-02-19 09:37

Eat cake my young LION, your meat is finished

Stan - 2012-02-17 08:55

Yes, he must be expelled. Him and his marching band of idiots who support him. AT first I thought it was just rebellion, this is not rebellion... it is a declaration of war...

lebo.lathane - 2012-02-17 09:31

Mara this bunch really have their heads way up their tushies neh! But I don't expect any less from people who once threatened to close down Twitter! It's all getting funnier by the day...methinks far from war Stan..they've way overestimated their might...that much is clear.

Sean - 2012-02-17 10:17

@lebo.lathane - I like your comment !

Angus - 2012-02-17 08:58

I pity humanity on planet Africa if this is the cream of the black leadership crop. Eish.....it is utterly pitiful!

Stan - 2012-02-17 09:24

and you had to bring race into it.

jurgen.eksteen - 2012-02-17 09:52

... cream of the froth.

Herman - 2012-02-17 09:57

Well stan, you always bring race into it, who made you chief in charge?
I however agree, there just isn't any real leaders in the anc and geuss what almost all are black

Kobus - 2012-02-17 08:58

Yes PLEASE and PERMANENTLY!

Kobus - 2012-02-17 08:58

And whilst you are at it, disband the ANCYL also thank you :)

Kobus - 2012-02-17 09:41

One more thing, appoint a commission of enquiry to establish exactly who owns what refering to how much land (or rather little) is still owned by white people. And to also establish the TRUE history of this country and not just ANC propaganda.

sardick.davids - 2012-02-17 08:58

Hallelujah...

Gigo - 2012-02-17 09:05

Hallelujah what?

Philip - 2012-02-17 09:13

Hallelujah...Malema is a Tosser!

E=MC2 - 2012-02-17 09:26

Sqanja - read the headline of the article & then think about how stupid your question actually is

Bryan - 2012-02-17 09:37

@Sganja... You been eating the dog biscuits again bru...Really WTF??

Gigo - 2012-02-17 09:54

Lol Bryan, you again?

Gigo - 2012-02-17 09:55

Come and join me, I'm going to mini skirt march in JHB. Can't wait to see those legs..

Yes Sganja..Me again:-) Here to give you your daily dose of reality! The march is a bit far out of town for me but I'll be watching out for you on the news wearing your Juju mask...

Gigo - 2012-02-17 10:23

Lol, Cheers Bryan later. i Will be at the back thou wearing Ancwl t-shirt

Kent - 2012-02-17 13:26

@Sganja ANCWT= ANC Wet T-shirt?

David - 2012-02-17 08:59

Ta ta Juju! Now you can go do what little boys do whilst they are herding. Don't forget your gumboots.

elsabe.wessels1 - 2012-02-17 09:01

Finally! Completely agree that he should be expelled. He should learn to show respect for his elders.

Peter - 2012-02-17 09:09

@elsabe: He should not only show respect to his elders but to everyone more intelligent than he is - which is 99.99% of the population.

VoiceOfReason - 2012-02-17 10:41

There is only one problem with that Peter, my egg sandwich is more intelligent than him so where do we draw the line?
Oh and it's also much nicer and does more good than he does.

Max - 2012-02-17 09:02

The ANC is going to pull a 180 on us with this Malema issue. "In the spirit of true reconcilliation and the fact that we do not cut off difficult members but rehabilitate them, we are welcoming our comrade back in our midst". Mark my words.

Gerhard - 2012-02-17 09:09

I hope not but it has been done before....

david.baker.sa - 2012-02-17 09:11

I would never say never but I think his 5 year suspension will stand. It gives the ANC the opportunity to lift te suspension in say 2 years time after he is seen to clean up his act (or not)
The reason why it has to stand
* The statements that the YL would help unseat the government in a neighbouring, democratic and peaceful country (Botswana). The SA govt cannot afford to let down its neighbours.
* The constant anti-Zuma comments. Whilst I dont think this is an expulsion or even a suspension offense the case above gives them the opportunity to clean house.
* Also the rules are clear. No discussion of swapping out leaders yet. Its an internal rule and if people dont want to comply, they can do it outside the ANC
* The YL have not handled the case maturely or shown any respect to their parent.
* If this is not enough, what will be enough?
We must be careful that we look at this from an ANC perspective. Its what serves their interests that is relevant.

AyGeewils - 2012-02-17 09:56

I somehow believe its gone too far for that now - politically speaking - Zuma has too much too loose - everything in fact. Its a huge risk for JZ but he has no option - Malema is crazy enough to ferment civil war to get what he wants - that could be the flip side of expulsion. If this was 16th century Europe - Juju would be headless by now - his rhetoric is nothing but treason!

Deon - 2012-02-17 14:03

Only if pigs can fly, no he is gone. The only question is for a while or permanently. The only group that will miss him apart from the YL is the DA. His stupid remarks etc. made them grow tremendously.

Richard - 2012-02-17 09:02

Who????

JayJohnsonS - 2012-02-17 09:03

i wish there was a delete button in life. actually i would ctrl+alt+ delete Julias.

Tell me Sganja, what exactly is it about this ape that you admire so much?? His intellect? Yeah... right. His work ethic? Bwaaa haaa haaa!!! Or his impeccable, high moral standards? LOL!!! Please, I'm dying to know what it is about this idiot that you admire so much.

David - 2012-02-17 09:34

Can someone please tell me how a man who is older than 30 can be put in charge of a YOUTH LEAGUE. Should it not be someone who is younger than 21. Please note i am just asking a question.

karen.glautier - 2012-02-17 09:52

@David, in another article it was stated that the YL is not about age, but is used as a type of feeder system. Therefore according to the imput from a member of the YL it is decided whether he is "promoted" into the league itself. Something along those lines.... :-)

karen.glautier - 2012-02-17 09:57

@david, the article - ANCYL must follow orders, mantashe says.

David - 2012-02-17 10:12

Thank You @karen.glautier. I will look into it.

acsteyn - 2012-02-17 09:06

malema does not deserve capital letters. he is first of all arrogant, then begins to apologise and then becomes threatning and then cries like a baby kivking and screaming to be allowed to come home. the only place whee he could pull the strings or so he thought. who will bow down to him now? who will listen to his ranting on like a rabid potcupine with no spines.

Paula - 2012-02-17 09:06

Yebo .....Spin Spin Spin .....Yebo

Jenipher - 2012-02-17 09:07

If the mother body sais you are no longer part of the ANC (Malema and his cronies) - how can the 'child' ie. ANCYL say that only they are allowed to expel members. ANCYL is a derivative of the ANC!!! If the ANCYL doesnt like the ANC's authority then they should break away and form their own league minus the ANC's support and influence.

Gerhard - 2012-02-17 09:11

And minus all that cash.

Alisha - 2012-02-17 09:42

Careful what you wish for. It will bite us all in the a$$.

Jenipher - 2012-02-17 09:57

A country run by fear is not the answer!

Johan - 2012-02-17 09:08

The ANC is too weakwilled to expell Malema

ben.nel2 - 2012-02-17 09:09

He is a big one to expel. Can I recommend some Black Forest tea, a high fibre diet, an apple and a couple of cigarettes?

sizwe - 2012-02-17 09:15

Juju, hamba kahle and foot-cheque

brionyl.french - 2012-02-17 09:22

Expell them all

E=MC2 - 2012-02-17 09:25

relevance factor - 2
entertainment factor - 10! :-)

karen.glautier - 2012-02-17 10:51

You're having fun aren't you :-) lolol

Collen Masetla - 2012-02-17 09:33

I always wished for political solution after i realised that they want second term and because they knew who can stop them, then they had to remove him. It would have helped even for reducing divisions but now ANC will be uncontrollable.
NOW IF HE GETS EXPELLED, I WISH WISH AND WISH THAT HE FORM A PARTY WITH MBEKI WITH NATIONALISATION AND LAND ISSUE BEING THEIR MAIN THINGS TO ARCHIEVE THEN THE REST WILL FOLLOW. I BET WE WILL BE THE RULING PARTY IF NOT THE MAIN OPPOSITION WITH HUGE INFLUENCE. ALL THE POOR AND THE UNEMPLOYED WILL BE FOR US.
FIRST TIME IN HISTORY I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR MY ANC IF MALEMA IS EXPELLED...ANC IS NOW PRO-RICH FOR PLEASING THE WEST WITH OUR WEALTH IN MINES RATHER NATIONALISE TO BE PRO-POOR.

Kobus - 2012-02-17 09:44

ag please, its time to put Mbeki to rest also. For good!

Roi Strong Sibambo - 2012-02-17 09:56

dude no one is bigger than the party, you cant show defience to your mother can you now and there was not going to be a political solution malema was becoming a liability to the party and he could not read the political situation well, you always back the winning horse, and let me tell you one thing if you dnt vote anc your vote doesnt count. Lol

Annelise - 2012-02-17 09:58

Well Collen Masetla. If the poor and unemployed is your members, funding at election time will be your first problem to solve. Good luck with that. See, think things through before you speak so your ignorance does not show. Now apply that same thinking (thinking something through before you act) the next time you comment or vote in the next election!

Collen Masetla - 2012-02-17 10:44

Funding elections will never be a problem... even small political parties have companies to fund them.

Mtizozo - 2012-02-17 11:19

No need to include mbeki in this nonses, he will die anc. him and zuma are intelectual leaders, see how they shurt up the media.

desertratbkf - 2012-02-17 11:41

You know Collen, if you had one more brain cell, you'd bark! Give the dog a bone!

Anette - 2012-02-17 12:39

Please!!!!!! Invest in a dictionary first. Then maybe your comments will make sense. Not to mention your grammer........

Charles - 2012-02-17 13:10

ARCHIEVE ???

Alisha - 2012-02-17 09:35

Expelling him will be a double edged sword. Yes, he will go quiet on the ANCYL front, bringing some temporary relief to the ANC propper, but WILL quickly regroup his armies to start their own youth party in the coming months. Malema will rise to power rapidly as the underdog under his own flag. Whether we like it or not, the youth of SA love the underdog status Malema enjoys, and it allows him limitless negative-attention seeking opportunities that resonate with a growing rebellious and ill disciplined youth who are desperate for jobs and a vehicle to release their pent up anger against the elders who they feel have forgotten them while enrishing themselves. The establishment of the SA youth Party (SAYP) will decimate ANC voter numbers, as the youth represents almost 68% of the black ANC vote. Expelling him will only serve to detonate the foundations of the ANC, bringing about a massive implosion in the coming months and years. By suspending him or ejecting him from the ANC will be suicidal for the ANC, and they know it. Politics won't stop Julius Malema and his band of merry young men. The only way the ANC could remove Malema from public life would be to have him prosecuted for corruption and tender fraud in Limpopo, plus tax evasion, but we all know that isn't going to happen. Leave SA now while you can and while the Rand still has some worth.

Terry - 2012-02-17 10:02

Don't think so Alisha - the ANC might do a lot of dumb things, but they are not going to let juju become a free agent. First they will suspend him, then the Hawks and SARS are going to grill his ass and keep him so occupied over the next 5 years trying to keep his sorry ass out of jail, and by the time they finish with him, the world will have gone past him. He might make a comeback in 10-15 years time, but by then the current leadership won't care - they are only interested in the next 5 years for their own selfish reasons.

sizwe - 2012-02-17 10:12

I scheme Alisha is talking out the wrong hole... On top of that she fails to understand that Malema's power was given to him by the ANC. They made him and they are busy breaking him. The chap schemed he was bigger than the organization and they have shown him he's not.
As a political analyst Alisha gets 15%... Which is a failing mark, but you can leave SA now if you want to no one will stop you

Alisha - 2012-02-17 10:48

@ s1zwe. Yes indeed the ANC (Jacob Zuma) did give Malema power a few years ago, BUT his sustained power is now coming from his own constituency and own brand of shock-value politics. This, the ANC can't take away from him by either suspending him or ejecting him. As long as joblessness, poverty and lack of education dominate the black South African youth experience, he will have a support base. Investigations against him will be deflected as a 'persecution' campaign, and his followers will buy into it. Many of us said Jacob Zuma would never be our president a few years back when he was facing multiple corruption charges, labelled an adulterer, and alleged rapist with no concern for HIV. Look where he stands today.

trix.duvenage - 2012-02-17 15:59

To leave the country would be stupid. To guard your own doorstep will be sounder advice. But I dont think he will get away with his fraud and corruption re tenders. If someone like Boesak had to stand trail for his part in the corruption a few years back and if Selebe had to bend his knees to the greater power of court and legislation I think we might just get rid of this rat in a better way than to get the ANC to demolish him.

sidney.gilroy - 2012-02-17 09:42

Get a comfortable seat and some popcorn - this s$%#t is about to get heavy. What you will be seeing is the COLLAPSE of the ANC infront of your very eyes.

Roi Strong Sibambo - 2012-02-17 09:46

dont you think you are misreading the situation here and being over dramatic. When pigs fly will the ANC collapse

sidney.gilroy - 2012-02-17 09:52

I give the ANC a max of 5 - 10 years of rule left Roi. It has become a cancerous, in-effective cest pit of nepotism, corruption and human rights abuse. It is NOT the ANC of Mandela anymore. It has no other future than that of implossion and demise. The people of South Africa deserve better. We deserve a multi-party government who does not make a mockery of the constitution that was paid for with blood.

Brad.Kopping - 2012-02-17 10:17

Roi Strong pigs are flying, do not remember Malema FLYING to maritius last year in that barney tuxedo xD looked so ridiculous!!

stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-02-17 10:23

I don't think the ANC will just collapse, but a split is not impossible. Now that would we great, maybe we will get some people to take note and start working to build this country instead of breaking it down. And the DA can put in some more effort to strengthen their support base. Maybe we can have a real democracy...

barabus2012 - 2012-02-19 09:34

@sidney - i agree. Its going to be a bumpy ride, especially if you take the comments by juju's followers in this forum.
Unfortunately, history repeats itself in africa. Colonialism, liberation, degredation of rule of law and infrastructure, political upheaval (where we are coming to now), civil war and in some cases rebirth. Hopefully this trend skips us as i'd like to think we are a little smarter than the northern states, but comments from juju's followers paint a different picture.
As for the anc collapsing, a simple universal principle, a house divided against itself WILL fall.
Its just a matter of time... just a matter of time

capetownphotographer - 2012-02-17 09:46

Without Malema, politics would be boring indeed, Economic Freedom in My Time...

funile.gwele - 2012-02-17 09:46

its about time let him go

Khomotso - 2012-02-17 09:47

Malema must just go. Im tired of hearing about him

Phillip - 2012-02-17 10:34

Khomotso Motso Makwela seems to support this POWER MONGERING Zuma,Mantashe Malema is our President untill 2014 we dont care about Hanekom,Cyril Ramaphosa finding.We as ANCYL we need leadership change we are tired of uncondomised Zuma.

Johan - 2012-02-17 09:47

Bye bye JuJu

Barbara - 2012-02-17 09:48

And so Malema builds his next career and his legacy ... being the martyr in his fight for the poor ... and everybody continues to fall for it!

jurgen.eksteen - 2012-02-17 09:51

80% of this article is cut & paste from the previous 10 articles.

Tammy - 2012-02-17 09:51

onkruid vergaan nie - ongelukkig

Roy - 2012-02-17 09:55

Agree 100% with the prosecutors and after this has been done then the Hawks,SARS and the Police must go after him and punish him to the fullest
for all he has stolen.

Shirley - 2012-02-17 09:57

oH GET ON WITH IT ALREADY! Just post the guy to the sahara desert and be done!

Malose - 2012-02-17 09:58

Rather we stop discussing individuals and discuss the issue of nationalization. this is a very crucial issue that needs open minds, not some racist afrikaaner mentality. I know a lot of white would rather see JUJU go down because through him the ANCYL speaks thier economic concerns

Brad.Kopping - 2012-02-17 10:23

before malema creeped into the media SA was literally doing fine, there was no racism in the news and everything was going grand...but as soon as malema showed up and started inciting hatrid and division this country has gotten really racist really fast.

Alisha - 2012-02-17 11:08

Ummm. No. South Africans as a majority have not been having a grand old time. Have you been to a township recently and seen the poverty, hunger and despair? Yes, it has gone well for the whites and other minorities because they started off in the new South Africa with a major financial and education advantage and the press has suppressed the real life experiences of the marginalised majority. In fact, things have got worse in townships since 2004. Every single day there are service delivery protests somewhere in SA. In fact, there is more social mobilisation against and defiance against the State now than there was during the height of apartheid. We on a time bomb that can't be defused by suspension or expulsion of a few chaps. It's not a matter if 'if' but 'when?'. The question is, are you ready? Have you made provisions to escape harm's way? Will you fight, or will you flee?

Anette - 2012-02-17 12:48

@Alisha. Just because your skin colour was/is white, does not mean you started off with a major financial or education advantage. What have you done to improve any of the poverty stricken people? Oh and by the way, I will fight for what I had to work for I worked 2 jobs, and studied at the same time. I paid for my own studies. (My parents did not have the means to do it for me). Worked and saved to be able to buy my own house, and so on. Please do take your best shot.

Alisha - 2012-02-17 13:03

@ Anette. I'm coloured, not white by the way. Firstly, your education prior to 1994 so much more advanced than what was offered to the Bantu schools and even the Coloured and Indian schools. A disproportionate allocation of skilled teachers, resources and school facilities was reserved for white people. Nobody denies that. Secondly, because of the fact that the vast majority of formal businesses (shops, farms, etc), and public service job reservation was for white people, they naturally had more financial resources in 1994, when the government changed. This too, is an undisputed fact. The problem we face today is that the then government shielded most of the white citizens from the other side of the fence or railway tracks as you may put it. It covered up and banned publication of the human struggles faced by black communities, lied to you that all was well in the land, and kept you in a cosy cocoon. Sadly that legacy still persists today.

Charles - 2012-02-17 14:08

@Alisha. Yes. Education gives a person a HUGE advantage in life. I was lucky, had it very easy, I admit (but still had to read those books, no one wrote my exams for me). Then why has the goverment not made education a TOP priority from 1994? (especially for the previously disadvantaged?)

barabus2012 - 2012-02-19 09:52

@malose - could you please explain how you see nationalisation will benefit you or any of your relatives / friends?
Nationalise any part of SA and it will go the way of zimbabwe.
What makes you think SA is any different?

Nigel - 2012-02-17 09:58

gadaffi was exactly the same, just as power hungry & delusional.. imperialist this, west that. The only difference between Gadaffi & Malema is that Gadaffi had power, & Malema is what? ..... "leader" of a youth league, still in nap pies.

Phumi - 2012-02-17 10:00

Leadership come and go in the ANC and they are decided up on and elected by the membreship. No one has a right to expel anyone exept if they have he support of the branches. This issue of Malema must be taken down to the branches and let them decide if he is expelled or not. It is time we stop this dillyderling and get on with the real programmes that are pressing. The issue of land redistribution and the transformation of the economy will not go away just because of Malema! The current sitting leadership is selling out to the media and white monopoly capital by wanting to remove Malema. The proud history of our movement shows that we have no dustbin for comrades like what cdre Matthews Phosa said! This thing of expulsion is a foreign tendency to the ANC that must be rejected by all!

Gigo - 2012-02-17 10:15

Amandla!!!

Mzwandile - 2012-02-17 10:16

Well said Phumi. I was getting bored about all these stupid comments. Comrade Albie Sachs said when he came from exile,that leaders come and go as you put it. That we should not be obsessed about Mandela forever. Lets discuss the real issues and not people. Lastly they can fire Malema now but come Mangaung the branches will bring him back. This leadership is worse than the Mbeki leadership

Mike - 2012-02-17 15:28

Phumi for president,well said comrade.The bloggers here do not represent the majority of this country.

barabus2012 - 2012-02-19 10:20

To all three of you @phumi @sganja @mike.
Why dont you guys just come out and say it. 'WE WANT FREE BUSINESSES AND WE WANT FREE LAND'
Stop this political rhetoric of land distribution and economic transformation. You want land... go out and buy it. You want to be part of this economy, get a job or start your own business.
All you people want is the short cut to wealth and prosperity.
No where have i ever read you guys mention the word 'work'. All it ever is handouts and give me to what i am allegedly entitled too.
This is the real worl children. Work at it or be left out. Simple

Wisani - 2012-02-17 10:02

so theose prosecutors are taking a decision on behalf of the masses? wow

Tshepo Ship Sekepe - 2012-02-17 10:06

He used to say “I will KILL for Zuma” few years down the line the same Zuma wants to shred him. And we not are stupid, the charges are valid and you committed them. You are paying for your dirty, volatile and non-strategy politics.

Nick - 2012-02-17 10:07

@Phumi, what you seem to forget is the the people who want to expel Malema have been elected by ANC members and therefore represent their constituents.

Cosmas - 2012-02-17 10:08

So did Malema ever think that he was always right all along, eish, this guy is such an embarassment to himself an his followers. And as they say: "A person who does not know, does not know that he does not know"

Rebaone - 2012-02-17 10:08

The ANC is still busy failing us as they are not prepared to give the young blood a chance to speak for them as they are trying to silence them raise their voice.

Thandi - 2012-02-17 10:15

Love it - let them all fight amongst themselves and do as much damage as possible to the ANCorruption.

What would be great, is if someone could take Malema's major comments over the past few years and put them in sequence... that would be hilarious!!
We could then see how confused the guy really is!!

djsmuts - 2012-02-17 10:24

and then what? who's to say there isn't another Malema (or 100) waiting in the wings? he/she could be worse...
It all makes me want to drink early in the moring

william - 2012-02-17 10:36

if the defiant youth league say only they can remove Prick Face Malema
then let it be so,keep the twit!!!BUT DONT LET ALL OF US BE BOMBARDED
BY HIS CRAP AND SEE HIS FAT FACE ON OUT T.Vs ANYMORE!!!!!

Zulumfana - 2012-02-17 10:38

Malema is a noticable expired product in a shelf waiting for disposal....consider him gone and at this moment the ANC is serching for a safest landfill to acertain that he never resurfaces in 'OUR ECONOMIC FREEDOM OF OUR LIFE TIME."
He is devisive and racist catalst in a making...RIP

VoiceOfReason - 2012-02-17 10:45

I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen, then when the sh1t hits the fan and he's arrested by the Hawks and SARS and thrown in to prison the ANC will just say, he's not one of ours.
Then he'll collapse get medical parole and become deputy president under JZ's 2nd term to make up for all the money he wasn't able to steal during his 3 days in prison.

nthathanem - 2012-02-17 10:47

Ag tog poor boy.

Christina - 2012-02-17 10:49

just when youre there - depot him as well.

djsmuts - 2012-02-17 10:52

join us next week for another episode of The Black and the Beautiful

Julie - 2012-02-17 11:19

What are some people smoking????? I know ignorance is bliss but some of the comments some people write they are so unattached from the "real world". For all the "comrades" out there take your head out your butt and look at the bigger picture. I will bow down and kiss your feet the day you are living in a house worth millions in Sandown, drive a fancy car, and can wine and dine to your hearts content. Dream..dream..dream. Malema doesnt give a "rats ass" about you or the "youth"