JHern wrote:I like shallower rim discs, such as the Classic Roc, XD, Clutch, Buzzz, Wasp, Squall, etc.. All this talk makes me want to pick up both a Volt and a Schock.

Volt and Shock do have 1mm shallower rim than classic Roc. How shallow do you want to go? 1,1cm that Volt and Shock have is pretty common tho. Lots of drivers with the same depth (TD, Assassin, Leopard, Beast, Halo and dozens of others).

I think it is more the combination of wing width and depth that throws many people off. This past off season I have bagged a Leopard, Mamba, AMP, and Bolt. They are all the same depth according to the PDGA sheet, but they feel shallower as the rim gets wider. oddly the AMP feels just as shallow as the Mamba even though the wing is narrower. The Bolt almost feels too shallow but I can still get monster drives with it (needs a lot of lateral space). It may be that 19mm is the point at which an 11mm rim depth becomes awkward.

OMG you guys actually did the collaboration stamp?!!?!?!?!?!?!? the nWo has indeed begun...

EDIT: to avoid gushing I will just say that you and ZAM are both very skilled artists and I admire and appreciate both of your respective works. SB your stuff reminds me of the comics I read as a teenager.

pask2155 wrote:So the shock is supposed to be more stable then the volt right? Why does inbound show it with less hss?

What is true? Is it more stable or less?

According to our data sources (one of which is the MVP tester data), the Shock has more high speed turn than the Volt, but more low speed fade. Based on those throwers in the know, it's supposed to be fairly similar to an EL and somewhere between these: