Starcraft 2 players club

I sold out. Actually plunked $60 of my hard-earned money on this. Nevermind I sucked at the original. I saw too many alpha and beta vidreps on youtube to resist. Installing the game as we speak. Anyone else test out the game? How is it? Who knows, we might even form a team here.

It seems the Protoss have all the good units. If they were so strong how did they lose Aiur to the Zerg? The Zerg could have conquered their sector but Kerrigan held back for some reason. Terrans as usual fighting themselves.

I'll get around to picking it up sooner rather than later. I don't give a hoot about the story mode, I just want to get a few reps in with Terran and a good feel for their new units (and change my tactics to deal with the loss of several units like the firebat and medic) before I take it to Battle.net and start owning everyone in sight.

The game comes with a 7 hour playing trial you can give to a friend. I'll probably spend this weekend trying to get familiar with the Terran units. Maybe dabble with Protoss, but I almost refuse to play Zerg.

I can't even run the game. I keep getting BSOD. The only hiccup I can guess is it's having problems with my video card. Strange since I heard of people using the nVidia GeForce GT 240 without problems. I downloaded the latest directx patches and the latest video driver. ARGH! My card is 512MB of DDR5 memory for crying out loud.

I emailed Blizzard. I guess I can tweak settings under dxdiag and the hardware acceleration. Hope that works or else I'll need to buy another video card. Hope not since I just spent $90 on this one.

I can't even run the game. I keep getting BSOD. The only hiccup I can guess is it's having problems with my video card. Strange since I heard of people using the nVidia GeForce GT 240 without problems. I downloaded the latest directx patches and the latest video driver. ARGH!

I think I would have been able to run it, but my laptops gfx card bit the dust. Don't think I'm getting a new computer any time soon either. I loved Starcraft and Warcraft so SC2 was very high on my want to play list, good refreshing change from all the cookie cutter fps games out.

Oh soy, if you've been playing on bnet, what division were you placed into. A lot of guys from another forum I frequent are diamond and are actually playing former wc3 pros. It's pretty amusing.

According to one link, you're out of luck if you have the following cards:

Blizzard lists the most common cards that will not be able to run StarCraft II. They are NVIDIA GeForce 6150, 6200, 7150, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9300 and ATI Radeon Xpress 200, 1150, 1250, X1050, 8500-9600, X300-600.

I'll get around to picking it up sooner rather than later. I don't give a hoot about the story mode, I just want to get a few reps in with Terran and a good feel for their new units (and change my tactics to deal with the loss of several units like the firebat and medic) before I take it to Battle.net and start owning everyone in sight.

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The reaper replaces the firebat. From what I've seen, the medivac isn't that impressive. Though it's likely less micro to heal the units. The medivac basically combines the medic and drop ship.

I'm surprised my PC could run City of heroes. This game must be taxing for you guys

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Took 3 hours for me to get SC 2 up and running. The install took me about 45 minutes. I was tweaking my directx and video card acceleration to deal with the BSODs. Researched online to confirm my video card could run the game. Then took an educated guess that my old sound card was crashing it (it didn't crash it during the installation though). Now it's running off the integrated sound card. I'm just messing with the tutorials. The game runs fine on my dual-core Athlon II 2.8GHz at least in the tutorial stages.

Took 3 hours for me to get SC 2 up and running. The install took me about 45 minutes. I was tweaking my directx and video card acceleration to deal with the BSODs. Researched online to confirm my video card could run the game. Then took an educated guess that my old sound card was crashing it (it didn't crash it during the installation though). Now it's running off the integrated sound card. I'm just messing with the tutorials. The game runs fine on my dual-core Athlon II 2.8GHz at least in the tutorial stages.

I currently can't afford the game, even though I'd gladly buy it. A friend of mine is in the same position, so what happens if we buy one copy together? Is it against the ten holy commandments of Blizzard?

I currently can't afford the game, even though I'd gladly buy it. A friend of mine is in the same position, so what happens if we buy one copy together? Is it against the ten holy commandments of Blizzard?

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No...but 1 CD Key doesn't work for 2 accounts. One of you guys would have to be logged out for the other player to be able to play. Also, since the new SC2 requires you to have internet for either Single Player or Multiplayer you wouldn't be able to play on the Local Area Network.

No...but 1 CD Key doesn't work for 2 accounts. One of you guys would have to be logged out for the other player to be able to play. Also, since the new SC2 requires you to have internet for either Single Player or Multiplayer you wouldn't be able to play on the Local Area Network.

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Basically, 1 license key is directly connected to your battle.net id. When the game is run, it asks you for your battle.net username/password. So if you have an id that is linked to a copy to SC2, then you can sign in to anybody's computer running SC2 with your own id. Sort of like email. But yeah Blizzard checks your copy of the game even if you are playing single player.

I've heard rumblings that Blizzard may include a network play patch to appease the big game networks in S. Korea. That and the hackers will find some way to make a private network possible.

I've been playing wc3 and counter-strike for a good 10 years, still to me the two best games of their genre ever made

I played a lot of beta, having not ever played broodwar, I got trashed on a lot. I did manage to get a even record by the time it ended though. I didn't try the most recent beta, and I still haven't installed it yet.

I've been playing wc3 and counter-strike for a good 10 years, still to me the two best games of their genre ever made

I played a lot of beta, having not ever played broodwar, I got trashed on a lot. I did manage to get a even record by the time it ended though. I didn't try the most recent beta, and I still haven't installed it yet.

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What race do you play? If it's Zerg, Brood War made no difference and SC2 just made it a worse race. Protoss? You keep your Dark Templars and non-AoE Corsair equivalent that's slightly rigged as well.

I played Starcraft 1 > Starcraft 2: Brood War > Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne > World of Warcraft > Quit WoW for a more strategic game: Guild Wars > Starcraft 2 (still playing Guild Wars though since Guild Wars 2 is coming out soon).

How did I get led on to all those games? The advertisements on Battle.net at the top. Damn you advertisements! I was so young at the time and I fell for easy adverts so easily.

If any of you guys can share our names on Battle.net I would be happy to play with you all and practice.

No...but 1 CD Key doesn't work for 2 accounts. One of you guys would have to be logged out for the other player to be able to play. Also, since the new SC2 requires you to have internet for either Single Player or Multiplayer you wouldn't be able to play on the Local Area Network.

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Thanks GetBetterer and soyizgood, I knew about the battle.net ID issue but wasn't sure if Blizzard actually allows different users to use it. So there is hope after all

Really? I'm a Zerg guy, and I see a ton of Zergs out there. It is the hardest (and best) race to master.

Plus, M/M/M is not best against Zerg. Mech. is, and Terran Mech. is the only build that requires me to get Roaches, other races it's Zerglings and Hydralisks with Infestors only. Against Terran Mech. I have to add a dash of roaches with either Glial Reconstitution (if they bring a detector) or Tunneling Claws (if they don't bring detectors).

The protoss have all the good stuff. Mothership, carriers, colossus, void rays, dark templar, high templar, stalker, sentry, archon, etc.

The zerg didn't get anything eye-popping for SC 2. Roaches are good, but they don't have the lurker or defiler anymore. Infestor is a bit overrated. Baneling I guess is okay but probably better early to mid game. Changeling is a stupid add-on. The queen is rather weak.

Terran got marauder (sloooow), thor (even slower), viking (maybe an upgrade over wraith but not particularly devastating), banshee (can only attack ground units), reaper (firebat replacement and is weak unless you stock up on them). Still has battlecruiser at least.

Hmm, judging from your comments I'm guessing you aren't too familiar with the current SC2 builds and such. Many of the protoss units you say are "cool" aren't actually being used much because they aren't viable for strategies right now. Not that they're not powerful but they just don't fit in with how protoss has to play right now.

For zerg and terran, well blings are good and the queen is probably the most important part of zerg right now. Her macro mechanic is just too good when used correctly. All the terran units you mentioned are seeing a lot of use in diamond level play

I also watched a few replays recently, and it seems a lot of terrans use ghosts against protoss. When I was playing this was just getting into use, I remember seeing a thread on teamliquid about it and back then it looked viable but I see it's a must now

Ahh, you frequent TL. That is very good okusa, especially if you want to improve. I haven't even played SC2 yet, my laptop gpu bit the dust and replacing it wouldn't make sense. However I've done enough watching/reading to understand some of the current metagame. Ghost EMP is invaluable against protoss, it can really cripple protoss units when used effectively.

Btw if you've been playing online, what division were you placed into? I'm also assume you're playing as terran. If you can micro decently enough try some reaper harass against protoss. If the toss didn't go early stalkers you can really do some damage to probes and structures. Good harass should crush people in lower divisions, obviously the better guys can deal with it.

Hmm, judging from your comments I'm guessing you aren't too familiar with the current SC2 builds and such. Many of the protoss units you say are "cool" aren't actually being used much because they aren't viable for strategies right now. Not that they're not powerful but they just don't fit in with how protoss has to play right now.

For zerg and terran, well blings are good and the queen is probably the most important part of zerg right now. Her macro mechanic is just too good when used correctly. All the terran units you mentioned are seeing a lot of use in diamond level play

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I'm no expert on build orders, hence I suck. I just figured out how to build a battlecruiser if that tells you how much I have to learn. It seems I'm comfortable using marines, marauders, thors, siege tanks, banshees, and vikings. I'll need practice using hunter seeker missiles, but I'll see if I can mix in some battlecruisers. I'm a slow starter in that I build up basic defenses at my natural expansion before advancing. I do that in case my main force is wiped out.

I played my first novice multiplayer match. If I knew how much of a noob this guy was I could have won this 15 minutes sooner. A noob playing protoss is just bad. He said he had not played starcraft in months, but his tacical errors were so noob-like. I rammed him when I realized he had limited air. He had a couple of phoenixes and void rays which I took out easily. And he only had a handful of melee forces. He didn't even break his own rocks, so he never scouted my area. He probably played SC 1 more than I did. Thors and siege tanks kick butt!

From the videos I saw, the queen is of limited value for defense and spawning larvae. I've seen replays of players having 4-5 queens and still lose. Zerg is probably the funnest to play, but it requires a bit of micro. The protoss seems to be a more defensive race at first and then unleashes it fury in the late game. The moment the protoss put together 7-8 carriers the game is over.

If it took you that long to figure out the guy was a noob then I'm guessing you didn't scout him out. Scouting your opponents base is very important, also important to sometimes keep a worker by the watch towers. Knowing where his army is placed around the map is very very useful. Regarding the queen, from what I'm hearing on the korean ladder Zerg is "overpowered" at the moment while on euro/american scene it's completely different. The sole reason is the spawn larvae mechanic, koreans are amazing and understand when to use it for most advantage.

Oh and most games aren't getting to late game for stuff like carriers. Sure if you played a noob you could roflstomp with carriers but rushing is probably more effective. Although I agree protoss is sometimes forced on the defensive, especially against reaper harass. It can be tough for them to deal with it.

If it took you that long to figure out the guy was a noob then I'm guessing you didn't scout him out. Scouting your opponents base is very important, also important to sometimes keep a worker by the watch towers. Knowing where his army is placed around the map is very very useful. Regarding the queen, from what I'm hearing on the korean ladder Zerg is "overpowered" at the moment while on euro/american scene it's completely different. The sole reason is the spawn larvae mechanic, koreans are amazing and understand when to use it for most advantage.

Oh and most games aren't getting to late game for stuff like carriers. Sure if you played a noob you could roflstomp with carriers but rushing is probably more effective. Although I agree protoss is sometimes forced on the defensive, especially against reaper harass. It can be tough for them to deal with it.

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On this map, rocks separated each other. The only way I was able to scout him was by air. I suppose I could have used a scan, but the fact he didn't even destroy his rocks told me he wasn't prepared for my forces. I looked at the replay and OMG he was not on top of things. He played using a laptop, but I'm going to assume he used an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. His main ground forces were a handful of zealots, sentrys, and a few stalkers. He built 4 phoenixes and a few photon cannons.

The map allowed each side to build 2 natural expansions while protected by the rocks. When I saw that he foolishly didn't even build a nexus for his natural expansion I knew I had him. Instead of putting a nexus, he put a pylon! I came in with 2 thors, two banshees, 2 siege tanks, a few vikings, 2 medivacs, a good 10+ marauders and a few marines. I forgot to pull my 3rd thor and another banshee into the action, but it didn't matter.

I haven't played but I heard Zerg is like Terran in BW: very powerful, but you really need the high APM/skill, they are on the difficult side. Meanwhile, Terran is supposed to be relatively easy (MMM, easy reaper harass, and such). Koreans are wrecking with zerg though lol.

I was a Zerg in BW, but it does seem Zerg is going to need more creativity/skill this time around since Zerg units seem even more underwhelming this time around and the queens add some additional macro needed.

The unit composition needed to break down the MMM deathball is crazy, you need so many kinds of units, and then good army organization to break it down.

All recording programs are expensive, but you only need to buy them once. Otherwise, you can only record with poor quality, or for a short time if you get the legal, free version.
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Don't mention TL, those admins & mods never read through an entire post or even thread. They need to get better mods.

soy, I understand you're completely new and I will soon be able to help you. You don't need a recording program for us to see your replays, if you're trying to do that.

I'm a Korean and yes, Zerg is seen as OP if you can handle the APM requirements. Reasons:

1. vs. Terran - We can easily Fast Expand and still have a good army. Lots of people complain about Terran mech. but Zerglings & Hydralisks with a good surround do the job.

Ahh, you frequent TL. That is very good okusa, especially if you want to improve. I haven't even played SC2 yet, my laptop gpu bit the dust and replacing it wouldn't make sense. However I've done enough watching/reading to understand some of the current metagame. Ghost EMP is invaluable against protoss, it can really cripple protoss units when used effectively.

Btw if you've been playing online, what division were you placed into? I'm also assume you're playing as terran. If you can micro decently enough try some reaper harass against protoss. If the toss didn't go early stalkers you can really do some damage to probes and structures. Good harass should crush people in lower divisions, obviously the better guys can deal with it.

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I haven't installed it yet, but before I stopped playing the first beta I just hit gold league back when plat was highest. I am not good at all, I just think I used better strategies that I basically stole from top players. My micro is decent as I played a lot of wc3 in my day, and my scouting is also decent. But, I don't have the timing or macro that good players have, basically I can control my army good but when it comes to controlling my army, buildings, expos, and scouting I lack that skill very much. I'm an fps player, it's much easier for me

I probably won't even play much sc2 to be honest, I still love to play counter-strike and it's still going strong on the international scene so there's no hurry for me to play rts

I finally defeated the AI in medium mode. Granted it was TvT but a small step in the right direction. I still need to try to do drops (that and actually buy Medivacs), but my Thor-Marine-Marauder-Siege Tank-Banshee combo worked. I still am a bit defensive but at least I did well to fortify my expanded zone, ambushed the AI that was attacking me, then went from defense to offense. I don't really see any point in getting helion unless it's for early harassment. The Viking is just a waste if the enemy hasn't built up air.

I'm just starting to learn.....and I'm wondering why it takes so long to build up your forces (minerals, vespene gas get used up too quickly, too many supply depots needed). More fighting and less building would be nice. Maybe Im doing something wrong...

I went and got this at midnight lol. Been playing it a decent amount. It's fun. I like it a lot. The original is my favorite game of all-time. Definitely a great game.

I always play random, but Zerg is definitely my best race, followed by Protoss, and then Terran; much like in the original. I love the Zerg. Can't really stand Terran, but whenever I play games, I always want/like to be well-rounded with all races/characters.