This thread will explain a very valid point and has nothing to do with quickscoping whatsoever, I could not care less about how annoying or OP it can be because that is NOT the problem. Allow me to elaborate, it is a very large percentage of the people who are "quickscopers" or "trickshotters" who irritate me and the the very large call of duty community in a unique way which is their attitude.

Hold on to those thoughts before you say any CoD player can be abusive or a troll or just irritating I will say you are right they can be, the point is that over 50% of these quickscopers are so obsessed with sniping that they will call you all the names under the sun just because you used for example a type 25. Don't get me started on the worst offenders oh wait I already have here we go, trickshotters you know those people who spin around who will scream at you if you dare shoot them and it is not just the children who can be annoying I have met many adults who set a horrible example by shouting and and constant abuse if you do not snipe.

My question is who on earth do these quickscoper/trickshotters think they are? Some sort of Nazi-party which must exterminate the disgust of people who do not snipe I mean come on! This post is no disrespect to people who snipe there are many good players and respectful players out there but this part of the call of duty community (quickscoper/trickshotters) are setting a bad example to all gamers I do not care if you have a rocket launcher which shoots nukes on call of duty (ok that was slightly exaggerated) I just want ONE game where a sniper has not threatened me or apparently "did my mother" is that too much too ask?

The thing with trash talkers is they try to get inside your mind. Trash talking is a psychological weapon. A mad player is a gamer who isn't performing at his best. They obviously succeeded in their mission to annoy you. Let them be. Mute them and never ever let them get in your head.

Quickscopers are annoying to me because they get put on my team, and then it's only me and maybe 1 other person who have to try and carry them. If you want to quickscope, either run with a team, or go to FFA.

Quickscopers are annoying to me because they get put on my team, and then it's only me and maybe 1 other person who have to try and carry them. If you want to quickscope, either run with a team, or go to FFA.

I assume im going to have to carry everyone on my team. QS are not the only players who end up having to be carried.

Quickscopers are annoying to me because they get put on my team, and then it's only me and maybe 1 other person who have to try and carry them. If you want to quickscope, either run with a team, or go to FFA.

I assume im going to have to carry everyone on my team. QS are not the only players who end up having to be carried.

But they quickscopers add more weight to your backpack than someone who's actually trying to shoot enemies with their gun.

I disagree. There are just as many players who die repeatedly trying to use an AR or SMG as there are Quickscopers. I know its arrogant and cocky, but in my opinion most players are not very good at all. One of the issues that the CoD community has, is the fact that most pay attention to what the opposing player is doing/using. Oh they have an acog attached, or they are using the AN-94, or they have light weight. To be honest such info is not all that important. Yea knowing what weapon they are using will help you figure out how to counter it. But thats where the community tends to drop the ball. they tend to blame that weapon for their death rather then the skill of the player who used it.

In every CoD game you have certain weapons that are considered noobish. Like in CoD4 it was the M16. After a while I started asking people who were complaining what weapon they would prefer me to use while stomping them into the ground. This typically shuts them up.

QS dont add anymore weight then any other player who is playing poorly. I dont even check what weapons/perks my own team is using.

It's not cocky at all. Most people in this game aren't good. Some of them are new to CoD, and some of them just suck. It just seems like a noob would have an easier time killing someone with an assault rifle, SMG, or shotgun, than missing most of his shots trying to quickscope for his youtube Faze montage. If someone is trying to capture a flag, would he do better fending of enemies with his LSAT, or by 360 quickscoping?

The point i was trying to make is that you dont have an issue with Quickscoping or even 360 quickscoping. The issue you have is players messing around and not properly helping out the team, just as a knife or C4 only player would.

Im a quickscoper/trickshotter and i cant stand it when other quickscopers yell at someone just because they got killed with a non sniper. The only thing that i would get pissed over is if someone is camping behind a riot shield with and LMG, which is probably the most OP thing to do.

Most people will tell you not to trust the kill cams. I just started using Sniper Rifles yesterday, and they are most definitely the easiest guns in the game to use. And most of the kills I was getting with QS'ing were misses. And I'm talking about not even close, but yet I was still awarded with a kill.

I'm not annoyed by the fact that their QS'ing, I'm annoyed by the fact their ONLY QS'ing. Isn't there more to sniping than QS'ing? Snipers that are in wars, are defending, are hit-man, and etc. They all stay in the shadows, ADS, and shoot but today in this game, whenever someone snipes like that, the QS'ers and others rage at them saying "LEARN TO QS'ING NOOBTUBER".

I'm not annoyed by the fact that their QS'ing, I'm annoyed by the fact their ONLY QS'ing. Isn't there more to sniping than QS'ing? Snipers that are in wars, are defending, are hit-man, and etc. They all stay in the shadows, ADS, and shoot but today in this game, whenever someone snipes like that, the QS'ers and others rage at them saying "LEARN TO QS'ING NOOBTUBER".

thats part of the communities problem in my opinion. Everyone is so fixed on how snipers are used in real life. The thing is, CoD is supposed to be about the best of the best. The most epic Hollywood action hero of all time. Your not playing a regular soldier your playing super rambo. You are playing as that one guy in a million who can QS constantly. In real life our soldiers dont run around tossing C4 at the enemy, they dont dolphin dive, they dont charge strait at the enemy solo and then drop shot them.

Yes, I agree but you have to know that there is not going to be many people who are in favor of all sides. I'm that part of the community who thinks you can play like real life or QS but I just hate it when I get **** because I'm playing like I'm in real life.

I'm not annoyed by the fact that their QS'ing, I'm annoyed by the fact their ONLY QS'ing.

This annoys me, for a different reason.

A lot of times when somebody is using a sniper, they only QS with it, even if the enemy is far away. Theyd rather miss a bunch of shots and then die than stay scoped in for even a second. Ive seen several rounds of SnD lost because of this.

my point was that its the same thing. Its someone wanting to challenge themselves more. Its no dif then challenging yourself to go knife only or C4 only. Yea your probably going to die more, but thats part of the challenge

Ah, I see now. However, the difference is that I know my capabilities, for example I wouldn't try to get a long range kill with the pistol- rather, id move closer. But these guys don't even bother with that, they just stand and shoot at a distance at which they are unable to kill anyone at.

hes right though. This topic has been beaten to death. resurrected and beaten to death all over again. and hes right about the fact that this thread is basically just spam since there are a billion other threads on the same thing. and regardless of his attitude, his post is on topic

Ive said it once and I will say it again, The people who constantly complain about QS are only hurting themselves.

I've been on these forums long enough to see Drew's first post. When he started posting, he was not as tolerant on others' playstyles as he is now. He even drafted a Face-off Code of Conduct wherein he prohibits the use of Bouncing Betties and Claymores or anything that he considers to give someone an unfair edge. Yes, we ganged up on him to straighten him up, me included.

Sorry, Drew. We have to straighten you up back then.

Nowadays, Drew is more like an enforcer of the forum rules and CoC. I don't think he's a bully, just evolved and enlightened.

Please be aware that I was not speaking about anyone in particular in the linked post.

Drew wrote a discussion about TDM a while back which I really thought was one of the best threads on TDM.

That said. I believe new posters here ought to be given a little leeway. If they're chased out of here, we lose having the potential of adding new thinking members. It is my observation that the more a member stays and reads, the more he/she will adapt to the likes and dislikes of the rest of the forum community.

I used to be an adminstrator at a car enthuisast forum, this is a real issue.

Wasn't telling you to do anything, only suggesting. Take the suggestion, or don't.

You don't get to tell me what to do. I'll discuss the topic when I feel I have something constructive to say. And I'll be sure to avoid any whining about a topic which I don't desire to read or discuss.

My question is who on earth do these quickscoper/trickshotters think they are??

I always laugh with a smirk when I come across a QSer who thinks he's special because he QS's. I have even a bigger smirk when I kill him and he exclaims shock over the mic. Apparently, some of these guys think, I guess because of the potential OHK, that they're invincible.

One suggestion, if you use ARs, equip Stock and/or Lightwieght. For me, Stock is sufficient.