"...there's little things like on a song like "Always/Never" on the album [Lifeblood], Nick actually started playing some slap bass which would've been heresy for us, you know from age 15 onwards, but I could say no, keep doing that, that's really good. And I could see the ongoing battle in his head, he was thinking no it sounds like fucking Cameo or it sounds like Level 42. And I'd be like, no, it sounds like "Ashes To Ashes" by David Bowie. If it's cool, if we're cool, it'll be cool."