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I have asked, but not seen an answer, what important games will we miss due to Pac12's rights to some games? (And, yes, games are important, unimportant, or middling within their own context.)

We cannot really know that. Each week, the networks divide up the games that will be played three weeks out. The PAC 12 network gets to go first every third or fourth week, so there is a chance that one or two more important games will be missed. There is also a chance that no important games will be played on the week that the PAC 12 network goes first, so there might not be any important games that will be missed.

So far, the USC-Stanford game is the most important game that we have missed. The only PAC 12 game I really care about at this time is USC-Oregon, but we do not yet know who will broadcast that one. Depending on what happens during the intervening weeks, by the time that game comes around, I might not care about it, either.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

Wait till that Lakers Channel debuts...It'll be MADNESS if D* holds their ground and doesn't carry it..With all the new players they got in the off-season. WOW..!!

Here in NYC if it wasn't for Jeremy Lin when he was on the Knicks...there was a standoff with MSG & Time Warner..I remember my bar was PACKED for each game during the TWC blackout viewing my screens that have D*. Lin made both sides come to terms, that and public outcry was a disaster for TWC..

Dwight Howard/ Steve NASH ..blacked out in LA markets!!...lets see how that ship of political correctness sails for D* subs out there..if it happens..1st with PAC-12 channel absence then LAKERS channel>> ouch

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

If every team or league starts its own network and D picks it up in the end I do not see how I will be able to pay the bill. It’s getting to high now. Back to HD Talk.

They should introduce premium sports packages. Not like NFL or MLB, but like HBO. $10 a month for a "college sports package". Then it doesn't matter if every league starts their own networks, as long as there IS bandwidth (as that is a factor) people can then choose whether they want to pay for it.

It's not going to happen of course... but it would be nice to see sports as a completely different category, instead of some sports in Choice, other sports in Sports package, and yet again others in the Spanish package.

They should include ESPN 1/2 and your local major league RSN's in Choice, and every other sports network in a sports tier. Kind of like it was on analog cable, the channels under 100.

Then, have a "basic" sports package for $10 which would have stations like ESPN News, NBC Sports Network, Universal Sports, Speed, Outdoor Network, and others.... then a "college" sports package for $10 that includes PAC12, BIG10, CBS College, ESPN-U, and potentially networks like the Longhorn Network if it is ever carried. An additional $10 will get you a "regionals" sports package for the remaining regional RSN's for their non-major league programming.

Then make it a package deal: "Pay 2, Get 3", so for $20 you get all three, and all sports possible. More expensive than the current sports package at $15, but this idea moves sports from Choice packages, and includes PAC12 and potentially room for other league/team networks.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

Probably 06:00 AM Wednesday morning, like they normally do with launches.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

If every team or league starts its own network and D picks it up in the end I do not see how I will be able to pay the bill. It’s getting to high now. Back to HD Talk.

NY Cable companies (I didn't have satellite back then) all have had quarrels with the 2 most recent sports networks...YES in 2002 and SNY in 2006.. MSG is the oldest of the bunch (launched 1969) its been around YEARS with little dispute.CableVision/Optimum the most notorious of the bunch..lets call them the E* of Cable disputes..Currently they're in dispute with Tribune..meaning no WPIX Channel 11..no CW for CableVision subs..

I anticipate a spike in patrons on Thursday, when NFL Networks coverage has the NY Giants Game... Won't be on NFL Network locally for us but re-routed to a local channel..and that channel is in dispute in the Bronx (closest to the bar).

so I agree..more sports networks...more disputes..MSG Networks the most recent of the NY RSN's to have an issue last year during the Jeremy Lin run on TWC..

NY Cable companies (I didn't have satellite back then) all have had quarrels with the 2 most recent sports networks...YES in 2002 and SNY in 2006.. MSG is the oldest of the bunch its been around YEARS with little dispute.CableVision/Optimum the most notorious of the bunch..lets call them the E* of Cable disputes..

so I agree..more sports networks...more disputes..MSG Networks the most recent of the NY RSN's to have an issue last year during the Jeremy Lin run..with none other than CableVision..

We know one thing for sure:

There will be disputes between those who provide television, and those who carry television as a service to the public.

Doesn't matter if it is sports or not, disputes there will be. Switching providers doesn't really help all that much, as other carriers have different disputes. You can switch to Dish for PAC12 and more Basic HD, but you'll have to give up AMC.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

Only as it applies to Dish/PAC 12 deal. Any discussion of PAC 12, or any other HD channel, coming to DRIECTV will take place here. As always anticipation discussion of HD channels belongs here.

Mike

It's fine by me.... but why is a separate topic allowed on the discussion on TWC Sportsnet Los Angeles coming to DirecTV? Or beIN, or Longhorn Network? You yourself know how active these topics have been (okay, Longhorn not so much....) and it doesn't seem like a good idea to pile it up in this topic.

At least with the separate topics the regular HD anticipation talk about DIY, ION, etc wouldn't fall away unnoticed because of people discussing sports channels. The heat will be turned up quite a bit as the NBA Season nears and the channels from TWC haven't been added yet.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.

No one knows. Could theoretically happen any day as it is still in test.... but no one really knows when it will be live.

[Disclaimer] The definition of "soon" is based solely on DirecTV's interpretation of the word, and all similarities with dictionary definitions of the word "soon" are purely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a time frame that will come to pass within a reasonable amount of time.