Well I'm a ectomorph so what I get all pissy about is how hard it is to gain bulk when all I keep getting is more ton and cut. Damn body morph!!! Na I kid I am proud to be a ecto morph for sure! But still... Ha

Yep, 1-2lbs a week - while gaining muscle - is totally possible, if one were to put in the effort with a smart plan. Problem is..most magazines mainly give misinformation to slow you down, making you buy their tied-in supplements. And most people do weak workouts, or use the cal in vs. cal out rule, and never loose much because its a slightly flawed concept when you can still be in a deficit and gain/remain fat, if your food sources/%'s aren't tweeked properly.

Also, no such thing as an ectomorph, only an under-eater seriously, the bodytype thing is a massive myth. But this is the costume thread..so I'll go into this elsewhere

Somatotyping is a theory from a psychologist in the 1950s..he tested about 46 thousand untrained subjects. If I left a ''ecto'' in a room with a TV and a years supply of cake vs. his identical twin, who id leave a weight set and a years supply of chicken...who would still be an ecto after? Neither lol. One would look like he was always fat, one would look like he was on roids. Some gain easier, some need more food to do so, and some aren't lifting right.

What weight are you, Hurley? Technically, all this talk is Bane-related

Well they're opposing concepts. To lose fat requires a calorie deficit, but to add muscle requires you eat like a pig to support your body's repair cycle after all the heavy weight training.

THIS

Unfortunately it's pretty true for the most part. Browse the bodybuilding forums, natural (and otherwise) and the general consensus as well as my own experience is that you can do only one or the other EFFECTIVELY. Yes, you can burn some fat while being overall anabolic in say a few months time, or build some muscle while cutting but the results will not be worth the time and effort.

For the best results and less frustration, focus on one goal; bulking or cutting. I've spent years in the gym trying to do both with mediocre result. Finally did a full cutting cycle last year, and dropped from 220 to 160lbs. Been bulking since April this year and strength and size have gone up.

tl;dr You can build muscle and lose fat with meh results, or you can chose one goal and get solid, definite results.

Yep, 1-2lbs a week - while gaining muscle - is totally possible, if one were to put in the effort with a smart plan.

i didn't see this, till after i posted but i may disagree or at least add note on this. If you notice the programs like p90x or individuals that claim they built muscle while losing fat; they don't really build as much muscle as someone eating and lifting big. I do think you can build some muscle, but you will never get BIG unless you take in more calories and protein over time, i.e clean bulking or dirty bulking. But it's all about where you're at on the spectrum and which goal is more relevant, at the moment losing fat or building muscle.

I'm just speaking from my own experience and research but what you said about under eaters and sources of food is 100% dead on. Calories-in vs calories-out is the most basic idea, and a good place to start but you need to pay attention to macros; fats, proteins, and carbs in order to increase muscle and strength. I've been working out and doing martial arts for 8 years, but aiming for a Bane body is what got me reading into this and has gotten me my best results

..is something I rarely listen to when fitness is involved. Look at how most people look on bodybuilding forums...surprisingly small for a bodybuilding site, right? If I listened to the general consensus from most places, id be doing a boring body-part split and boring cardio, mixed with a chicken and broccoli diet. While I totally get what you're saying, and do partly agree, for most of the goals on here..a bulking diet isn't needed. Sure, more calories are, but nothing massive. Plus, clean bulks work much better than fat ones. I know i'll say this again and nobody will listen lol - fasting + long walks + heavy/frequent lifting + lots of good food/nice cheats = bigger and leaner/funner and quicker. Just came home from doing 10 sets of singles of rack Zercher squats with 320kg and a nice fullbody speed-circuit, all fasted, now eating some pure lovely 100% breast chicken nuggets! But i'll shh now

no, jonny you pretty much hit the nail on the head. it just requires alot of work and commitment; or at least more than you see from the average gym goer. so i just don't want people reading at a glance and thinking "if he's doing it, i can build muscle and lose fat easy".
What have your overall goals been for this project? I'm still working on getting those insane Tom Hardy traps lol

no, jonny you pretty much hit the nail on the head. it just requires alot of work and commitment; or at least more than you see from the average gym goer. so i just don't want people reading at a glance and thinking "if he's doing it, i can build muscle and lose fat easy".
What have your overall goals been for this project? I'm still working on getting those insane Tom Hardy traps lol

Oh no, not easily. Its simple, but not easy! Gotta work very hard. For this..to go from about 15% to about 7% or so..just been so busy I haven't been able to get my morning walks in for quite some time. Just weighed myself and its 299lbs lol...never hit 300 traps, as iv said before..rack power-shrugs and powercleans!

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Jonny my body weight is 182 last I checked. And body fat roughly 11 percent. And get this my goal is to get to 195 And see if I like the results of that. Who knows though. Ha

In earlier posts you say how you struggle to gain more, and that you take in 2800 calories a day..at your weight, that's pretty much 15 calories per lb of bodyweight - maintenance level - so that may be why its taking awhile you should try at least 3200 calories, imo.

What is the general consensus on how to make the mask yourself? I don't think I am going to mess around with latex, I've never really worked with clay either...Is their a simpler way to go about it? I have ideas for the little things like the fabric, foam, straws and what not...I've been browsing the thread and found a few youtube videos but seems like everyone is going 110% movie quality or spending hundreds on one someone else made. I'd like to make this a fun little project and want mine to look nice but it doesn't need to look like Tom Hardy himself sold it to me off his head lol. Any advice would be great, thanks!

Have you gotten this material in hand yet and does it look like a close enough match? i had initially ordered some tan cordura which is too dark, and got a sample of pale khaki which seems close but not what i want. So i just want to get confirmation about this

Have you gotten this material in hand yet and does it look like a close enough match? i had initially ordered some tan cordura which is too dark, and got a sample of pale khaki which seems close but not what i want. So i just want to get confirmation about this

I got it today, and it's a bit more green than it appears in the picture on eBay. It's not perfect, but I think it'll do for the outer vest. I ordered tan cordura literally right before seeing this post. It's for the belt. I hope it's not too dark.

wait, i was looking at the coyote cordura i have... lol, my bad. the tan i didn't like too much cause it seems a bit olive whereas in the pics i've seen his belt is more like a desert tan. i got mine here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300782345269 could work i suppose. i just hate trying to match color via internet

wait, i was looking at the coyote cordura i have... lol, my bad. the tan i didn't like too much cause it seems a bit olive whereas in the pics i've seen his belt is more like a desert tan. i got mine here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300782345269 could work i suppose. i just hate trying to match color via internet

That's the tan cordura I just bought. I agree, though, color matching on the internet is no good.