Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater

The only other thing I could've wished for, is that the Giants beat them by 1 instead of 4, so the safety would've been the difference.

I would say the safety made the difference. It gave the giants 2 points, the ball, and then the drove down field for 7. So that one mistake by Brady took points from the pats by not being able to drive down field and gave the giants a 9 point advantage.

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

The safety gave Brady one less drive to work with, and one more drive was all he needed. I think it's safe to say the safety made a huge difference, it set a bad tone for the Pats for the entire game.

Also, I think the Pats focused too much on turnovers and not enough on tackling. Too many times I saw Giants players rumbling for a few extra yards, and sometimes a 1st, while the Pats players tried to strip the ball instead of making a good tackle. Tackle first, only strip if you have the tackle in hand or the ball is easy to knock out.

Don't get me wrong, I giggled like a school girl reading the Yahoo article on how upset Tom Brady was after the game, but I think the Pats beat themselves more than the Giants beat the Pats. Tons of missed opportunities.

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by Rammed

Would have liked this officiating crew back when we played the cheatriots.

Amen to that. When Brady was called for the safety, it took me back to the final drive in SB 36 where an obvious grounding wasn't called on him, keeping the drive alive and setting up the FG that was like a shot through the heart. Oh what could have been if there was an officiating crew that called a fair game.

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by Rammed

Would have liked this officiating crew back when we played the cheatriots. They made it a hell of a game, great calls only 9 flags I think.

Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike

Amen to that. When Brady was called for the safety, it took me back to the final drive in SB 36 where an obvious grounding wasn't called on him, keeping the drive alive and setting up the FG that was like a shot through the heart. Oh what could have been if there was an officiating crew that called a fair game.

WOW!! While I thought the Safety call was a good omen, it was about the only thing the officials did that was in the Giants' favor. The second quarter OL holding that took away a first down in scoring position, and eventually resulted in a punt, that then provided just enough time for a cheatroits score, was one of the most lame OL Holding calls in the playoffs. While it could have been holding, it also could have been a DL that fell from getting himself off balance. It was also a WHOLE LOT LESS holding than what the cheatroits got away with on the 20 yd pass from the 15 that started the drive that resulted from the bogus/ticky-tack OL holding. There were also at least 3 blatant pass interference that would have extended Giants' drives that weren't called. There was also a hit out of bounds (barely, but callable) that you could see the CB cautiously looking around, expacting the flag to be thrown.

I am VERY GRATEFUL that the officials called that penalty, as they have let the cheats get away with that more than I core to count, but they were far from fair.

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by gap

WOW!! While I thought the Safety call was a good omen, it was about the only thing the officials did that was in the Giants' favor. The second quarter OL holding that took away a first down in scoring position, and eventually resulted in a punt, that then provided just enough time for a cheatroits score, was one of the most lame OL Holding calls in the playoffs. While it could have been holding, it also could have been a DL that fell from getting himself off balance. It was also a WHOLE LOT LESS holding than what the cheatroits got away with on the 20 yd pass from the 15 that started the drive that resulted from the bogus/ticky-tack OL holding. There were also at least 3 blatant pass interference that would have extended Giants' drives that weren't called. There was also a hit out of bounds (barely, but callable) that you could see the CB cautiously looking around, expacting the flag to be thrown.

I am VERY GRATEFUL that the officials called that penalty, as they have let the cheats get away with that more than I core to count, but they were far from fair.

gap

I guess we just see things differently. I saw a well officiated game, with a few close calls, like the holding call you yourself said "while it could have been holding".

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by sjacksonrules

I would say the safety made the difference. It gave the giants 2 points, the ball, and then the drove down field for 7. So that one mistake by Brady took points from the pats by not being able to drive down field and gave the giants a 9 point advantage.

There's no guarantee they would have scored on that possession, but I'd also note that if not for the safety, they only would have needed a field goal at the end. If all they needed was to move the ball 50-60 yards in the final minute and then kick a FG, their odds of success would have been much higher than when they needed the full 80 yards and the TD.

Re: Whats the next best thing thing to a Rams win?

Originally Posted by Goldenfleece

There's no guarantee they would have scored on that possession, but I'd also note that if not for the safety, they only would have needed a field goal at the end. If all they needed was to move the ball 50-60 yards in the final minute and then kick a FG, their odds of success would have been much higher than when they needed the full 80 yards and the TD.

While I agree that the Safety was as important as any other score in this game; without it the G-Men would have kicked the extra point instead of going for two. That would have made a point spread of three (without the Safety) instead of two. It is my understanding that going for two was only to run more time off of the clock. I can see no other benefit to going for two in the scenario.