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Harvest Ball - - The swingers in Price have a Harvest Ball? You Carbon County fuckers are KINKY! [em]Emo_84[/em]

where are the real people who want to swing - run into to many phonies - where the hell are all the real swingers at out there and how come it is so hard to find them
and where are the real down to earth ones who are not ken and barbie and looking for real people at.

To message first or not - Do you reach out first? - We respond to inquiries far more often then we make the first contact. When we were younger we got a lot more inquiries and we also made more first contacts . We used to play almost weekly, and sometimes two or three times a week. We attended more meet and greets too.
As we have aged we get fewer inquiries. We are probably not within the age parameters, that most swingers are looking for. We also have very little free time. So really it kind of works out. We have discovered that now that are kids are all grown and married etc., that almost all of our social time is family related. Its a good thing! What it has done is eliminate us from the hit most of the events crowd or the hang out twice every weekend crowd. We just can't live up to that. It's not out of obligation it's a choice. We spent far more energy and emotion as parents than we have in the swing scene. So for us spontaneity and flexibility are really key elements. We can't spend much time swinging, but we will make worth someone's time when we do hook up.
For us primetime swing time was at the point in life when the kids were old enough to not need a babysitter, they needed a lot of time to hang out with friends and needed a bit of autonomy too. We could go out, while they were out playing with their friends, and play with our friends. Now that they are all real adults, happy and successful, they want to hang out. We enjoy each others company, and for us family really is paramount.
We were not swingers when they were young. We really didn't have time for it. Now that our kids are adults, and are doing what we did with family, and we are involved and enjoying it, what and who fits in the lifestyle has changed up a bit. The search engine parameters, and most profiles don't address most of the deeper layers of compatibility. In the end, if you remain true to yourselves, and each other, you'll run into the right people, at the right times in your life.

Why is it so hard to meet people on here - - Lots of good feedback in the posts above. I would add that possibly it might be your expectations and maybe the way you present them. Yes swinging is fantasy but fantasy often isn't reality. Since you live in an (relatively) outlying area and can't/won't travel to the areas with a higher concentration of swingers and events then you should probably lower your expectations and/or requirements a little bit. I'm not saying to just bang a bunch of fugly peeps but I know a LOT of people whose expectations far exceed what they can realistically expect to find in a relatively small pool of people. The other thing I would add (not saying this is you guys) is that many peeps consciously or subconsciously look for reasons NOT to hook up. This person is a little too fat. Or too old. Or not quite cute enough. Or I really want a redhead. A million different reasons we've heard over the years. You should definitely look for what you want in play partners but if your requirements are too narrow it's much harder to find people to play with. Maybe as you screen people look for things you DO like about them rather than things you don't. If all else fails, hire a sitter and go to Ogden or Salt Lake to some meet and greets. That's probably the easiest, fastest way to meet a lot more people and hopefully connect with the type of people you're looking for. Hope this helps.
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Hot wife - - A short time back, we established a group in the group section in order to help couples that enjoy Hot Wife Play sort of cull the herd. Also, hot wife play, for a lot of swingers we know in Salt Lake is perhaps a bit different than it may be elsewhere. We were thinking this might be a way couples could meet and or introduce some of the single men they like, to other couples, and that single men could do the same for couples. Couples could also perhaps meet a few new couples, that might become playmates, in the process too. A bit of a mutual admiration society as it were. The group has not enjoyed much participation as of yet. But then again, we ourselves, have been really passive as of late. Perhaps, the requirements for admittance are a bit too steep for some, but we will stand by them. In the end everyone needs to do their own leg work and make their own choices. The group is as follows:
[i]Hot Wife Play in Salt Lake City
"Hot Wife" is often used synonymous with the term Cuckold, but it is NOT how most swinger couples view “Hot Wife Play” and not at all what this group is about. Hot Wife Play for most of the swingers we know in Salt Lake City, is where the husband feels he has the hottest woman in the world, and wants to share her, and the wife enjoys all the erotic attention his devotion and fantasy creates for her. When in the mood, swinger couples are not looking for a sexual replacement for the husband, but rather a sex life enhancement adventure to share that includes a single man. The single man lucky enough to be a part of this sort of thing must be very respectful. The stuff of fantasy! Not all men measure up. Our wives don't want to be with physically or emotionally mediocre men. Husbands don't want to watch their wives with mediocre men. Polite, respectful, attractive, intelligent and good humored single men can do well in the swing community.
Single men need to take the emphasis off of "Hot Wife" as a singular devotion or lifestyle for couples that say “yes” to single men and consider it more of a fantasy and a pleasure for couples to make a reality, when that is what they desire, and they can be part of that reality. Couples swing in other realms and often prefer couples hook ups most of the time. In other words, let's not consider it any more than what it is, a fantasy, and a possible reality that couples can use to hopefully enhance their relationship and single men can use to have sex with an incredibly passionate and orgasmic woman. Swinger couples, like us, sometimes wish to focus our attention on our hot wife's sexual fulfillment. She is so sexy that watching her in passion's full embrace, with another man can be extremely rewarding and erotic. As for me I watch until I can no longer wait to join in and ravish her.
When a woman is just so sexually hot, that she is a gift to the world, and her passions and her orgasms cross over into the realm of the sacred, then encouraging select gentlemen, to join in such divine worship of a hot wife's sexuality is a total fucking blast!! That is what this group is about!!
Additional tips for single men wishing to join the group :
Look good
Smell good
Have a sense of humor
Be respectful
Don't be pushy
Don't be whiny
Be patient
Be honest
Be healthy
Be confident
Be willing to host
This is a group specific to Hot Wife Play in and around Salt Lake City. You either have to live in or near Salt Lake City or be a frequent visitor.
[b]Single men must have a recommendation from a member couple. All members must be verified as "Real" or "VIP" before admittance into the group.[/b][/i]
Perhaps, if enough people join the group someone could set up a "by invitation" meet and greet, for the group members, at one of the event venues.

Anti-rant!!!! - What makes you go wild that you love?!? - The people and especially the parties. Most couples get boring and slow, would rather sit in their home and rot rather then have fun, party, and meet more energetic like minded perverts... like us. "Swingers" like to have fun, they are usually good conversation, and active. Not to mention a lot less stupid drama (except for the singular forums). Life is short, we intend to live it up. Hell if the Mormons were this much fun we would probably wear the jammies and try not to laugh out loud during seminary.
...and getting naked with your hot wives isn't half bad either.

swing parties information - Meet and Greet - Looking for a swingers club or private swingers party in the Chattanooga area whenever one will be happening. Any information would be greatly appreciated. You can leave me information on here or my own e-mail address at destinytw at hotmail dot com. Thanks, Tammy

Saturdays Vortex Party - - Just an idea. Even the wife and I have talked about this. When we first started in the L/S back in NC. We went to hotel Parties. Then a cpl from FL baught a house just for swinger parties. They didnt live there just opened it up on sat. for swingers. It was privite house so you didnt have to worry about cops and you could pretty much do as you like. We had a good time at the V but did not like the fact that on the dance floor there was a wall of guys just stairing you down. I know Ut has its own rules. Lets just get a house. :) for us all to meet.