Al Qaeda warns Iran to 'Stop spreading 9-11 Conspiracy Theories'

and you truthers amaze me with your ability to take circumstantial evidence and believe its direct evidence. you have zero, absolute zero, proof of
explosives in tower 7 or a missle hitting the pentagon. zero. yet we have pieces of the plane and demonstrations showing the weakness of the steel in
those buildings. thats what amazes me.

Here, your argument dies. Show us evidence that is not circumstantial for either side of the coin. The problem is that the official story is a
collection of circumstantial evidence which presents a potential interpretation of it all as an absolute fact. If there is no real evidence (say for
example it has been melted down and turned into a freaking aircraft carrier) then the official story is up for debate. Don't argue by saying "I
looked at the stuff and it's solid." Argue by saying "Here is the evidence which proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the official story is
factual and solid."

Without that evidence, the debate will continue. Without an independent investigation, we will be arguing for more decades.

I just hope that one day, if the truth comes out and it's "9/11 was a False Flag Operation", then it is not shrugged off as a part of the past. It
needs to explode. People need to be burned at the stake for it. Rooted out of whatever comfy defense contract they are wallowing in at the time, and
spit-roasted for the world to see... then disposed of "in accordance to Muslim custom."

Very good post and certainly an angle which the OSers tend to ignore. If the "truthers" and "Osers" (always a polarity isn't it?) both want an
independent investigation (both for opposite reasons) then why haven't we received one?

Originally posted by stirling
The queda boys are loathe to give up thier most famous caper hey?
Its pretty obviousthat they are not going to admit they didnt do it....Its just too big of a propaganda victory, as well as an operational one.
In serious reflection on the issue, i have come to the colclusion that it was a US operation at some point.

Whether or not the US had a hand in 9/11 (by negligence or direct activity) it is silly to suggest that al quaeda would have a greater propaganda
advantage by "falsely" claiming they were responsible, when compared to the propaganda advantage of demonstrating the US is capable of attacking its
own citizens.

Originally posted by bacci0909
Did he ever say it was in the commission? It's what the government and MSM have been shoving down our throats since day 1. Why would we want to read
the commission? Even an OS'er wouldn't want to read it. It was DENOUNCED AS WORTHLESS AND TAMPERED WITH BY 6 OF THE 10 COMMISSIONERS. Don't know
about you, but I don't like those odds..

A) Yes, he did say it was in the 9/11 commisison report. He claimed it was the "Official Story" and the "Official Story" is the 9/11 commission
report. Everything else is speculative. Mp personal opinion is that Mohammed Atta was a sociopath and he was using al Qaida to hurt as many people
as possibleas much as al Qaida was using him. The [censored] didn't even care that he was murdering other muslims.

B) You're embellishing. Lee Hamilton is on record as saying it was a first draft and it almost certainly contained information that would be
disproven as time goes by. Their statements referred entirely to collected details such as Mohammed Atta's girlfriend, who testified at the time
that he ate pork and behaved like a party animal, but it was subsequently discovered she was making everything up. The commission report still
confirms it was an actual terrorist attack and not ONE of the commissioners even remotely entertain your conspiracy theories.

C) If you genuinely believe the 9/11 report is "a pack of lies" then it becomes your responsibility to read the thing to know exactly what the lies
are. Your coming here saying the "commission report is a pack of lies" before going on to describe some Wile E. Coyote cartoon version that the
9/11 commission report never said only makes you look uninformed and ignorant. It's like doing a book report on a book you never read.

And stop your crock.. it has nothing to do with "these damned fool conspiracy web sites".. we don't need anybody to tell us what we saw,
like OS'ers do, we know what we saw wasn't right. As for al Qaeda, you can find out everything you need to know about their true origins without
visiting any "conspiracy web sites".

Baloney! Simply look at the "how I first started doubting the official story" thread and we can see right away it's chock full of "I saw Loose
Change", "I saw fahrenheit 9/11", "I looked at AE911truth", "I listened to Alex Jones", etc etc etc. If you're trying to claim it wasn't
some consoiracy monger or another running one of those damned fool conspiracy web sites that first put the idea into your head there was some sinister
secret conspiracy afoot, you will be lying. There are too many false claims the conspiracy people are passing around...

-the hijackers were all illiterate cavemen
-some of the hijackers are still alive
-all the bomb dogs were pulled from the WTC before the attack
-the fires melted the steel
-no interceptors were scrambled
-no plane wreckage or bodies were ever found at the Pentagon
-there were no fires in WTC 7

...for this to be simply some mass psychosis. Someone is deliberately inventing this bad information and spreading them around for an agenda that has
nothing to do with 9/11 research.

Which brings me to the same question I asked earlier... if you hate 'these damn conspiracy sites' so much, why are you on one?

(sigh) okay, one more time...ATS isn't a conspiracy website. It's a conspiracy discussion forum where everyone on all sides of the discussion can
come and have their say in complete freedom. If this were a genuine conspiracy web site they'd be pushing an in-house conspiracy to the point of
outright censorship, and most of us who don't go along with it would be banned in short order. I know this becuase I was banned from the Loose
Change forum only after two weeks. Heck, anyone posting "no plane" claims were banned instantly.

Oh, btw...in case you guys didn't know...some terrorist organizations actually LIKE everyone to know it was them who did terrorist attacks... It gives
a message of "don't mess with us" or "we can do it again."

For terrorist groups taking credit for their terrorist attacks is their resume...

Normal people put in their resume legitimate work histories. For terrorist groups the terrorist attacks they carried is their resume...and they don't
like other people taking credit for what they actually did.

Originally posted by Thutmose
There is no 911 inside job. Al Queda fully takes credit for it. Yet when they do, people STILL don't believe it, strait from the terrorists mouth.
How irrational can you get?

Have you ever seen a terrorist? or are you just talking about the poor goat herder they chose to show on t.v. and say this is the "evil man"

Originally posted by Thutmose
There is no 911 inside job. Al Queda fully takes credit for it. Yet when they do, people STILL don't believe it, strait from the terrorists mouth.
How irrational can you get?

Have you ever seen a terrorist? or are you just talking about the poor goat herder they chose to show on t.v. and say this is the "evil man"

Some of the responses in this thread are highly illustrative of just how diseased conspiracy think can become. Al Qaeda claims responsibility for
9-11? Why, they must be run/funded/created/receive orders from CIA! Those that disagree? "Dis-Info" agents!

Real science, real research incorporates new learning. Theories evolve over time. 9-11 conspiracies NEVER deviate from the predetermined conclusion.
When confronted with evidence contrary to the already determined conclusion, CT'ers simply go further and further down the rabbit hole never realizing
how absurd & twisted their 'theory' (read abject speculation) has become.

Then again, this is the same forum that entertains space beam weapons, "dopler" sound effect generators, hush-a-boom mini nukes, seismic generators,
holographic airplanes, thermite, super thermite, military grade thermite, nano thermite, thermite spheres (otherwise known as paint chips), remote
controlled planes, planes with bombs attached, no planes at all, faked phone calls to loved ones from the airplanes, every news outlet in existence
being "in on it" and on and on and on and on...........

Originally posted by SlightlyAbovePar
Some of the responses in this thread are highly illustrative of just how diseased conspiracy think can become. Al Qaeda claims responsibility for
9-11? Why, they must be run/funded/created/receive orders from CIA! Those that disagree? "Dis-Info" agents!

Real science, real research incorporates new learning. Theories evolve over time. 9-11 conspiracies NEVER deviate from the predetermined conclusion.
When confronted with evidence contrary to the already determined conclusion, CT'ers simply go further and further down the rabbit hole never
realizing how absurd & twisted their 'theory' (read abject speculation) has become.

Then again, this is the same forum that entertains space beam weapons, "dopler" sound effect generators, hush-a-boom mini nukes, seismic generators,
holographic airplanes, thermite, super thermite, military grade thermite, nano thermite, thermite spheres (otherwise known as paint chips), remote
controlled planes, planes with bombs attached, no planes at all, faked phone calls to loved ones from the airplanes, every news outlet in existence
being "in on it" and on and on and on and on...........

Seriously, get a grip. Or don't.

Life will move on without you.

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It's been 10 years and every day more people across the planet disbelieve the events as stated in the offical story. Also, stop making broad
generalizations about people called "truthers." People from all corners of life in the US and other countries believe the US government is hiding
information about 9/11: Elderly people, young people, war veterans and family members of people who died when the twin towers collapsed. Every day
more people question the official story provided by the government by a committee that was, "set up to fail."

You don't understand. Al'Qaeda is being used as a chess piece by TPTB. They are not going to admit anything, because there are still a good deal of
people who have no idea of what is going on, and will support endless wars and BS just because there's now al-ciada in tripoli... etc. The effort is
NOT to destabalize, the effort is to control. They do not want us up in arms, resisting their every move. They want us to bow down like jesters and
not even realize that the deck is rigged at the black jack table.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverseNormal people put in their resume legitimate work histories. For terrorist groups the terrorist
attacks they carried is their resume...and they don't like other people taking credit for what they actually did.

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Poor Al'Qaeda, they have been unemployed for 10 years

That's gonna hurt their chances of finding another "job".

"So, it says here you carried out the 9/11 attacks. What have you been up to since then?"

"Well....work has been really hard to come by, you know, what with the economy and the US invasion".

"Hmmm...so you are unemployed eh? Well, we are willing to give you benefits, but you'll have to work for them. Do you like Libya? I hear its warm
this time of year".

The USA owes osama a medal for helping to defeat the russians in the afghan. He was a good trusted family friend of the bushs. Which is why when 911
happened all the bin ladin family were flown safely back to the saudi. This was the next day when the hunt was on for bin ladin and all planes were
grounded in the USA. He was bushs heroin supplier. Weapons for heroin. Al cia da are now our good allies in Lybia

How does that spoon feed terror taste, cause you have eaten your fair share. No one has said that Al Qaeda doesn't exist, nor that it's members aren't
fundamentalists. But every "body" needs a head, and that head is directed by intelligence agencies. They were created by the CIA, funded by the CIA
and trained by the CIA. The concept is very simple, control both sides for the purpose of having a boogy man that plays right into your plans.

Correction:

The CIA helped fund the Mujaheddin. The Mujaheddin were the "freedom fighters" fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. They comprised mostly of many
different factions working together to fight the common enemy. Many were just Afghans that wanted to defeat the USSR, others were groups vying for
power, others were fighting for whatever reason. Either way, the group together consisted of many different people, groups, and ideologies. Yes,
elements of what would become AQ were in it as well. After the war, radical Islamists began their "anti-west" quest and began pushing their
radicalized version of Islam, with Sharia as law, and even worse. AQ members were with them. They broke off and created AQ. They began their jihad
against those that did not comply with their bastardized version of Islam, and began through terror, injecting their version into the populace. .

To say that the CIA is funding AQ right now, is a load of crap based on incredulity and ignorance of actual history. Did the CIA fund the Mujaheddin?
Yes. Were there elements in the Mujaheddin that became AQ? Yes. Does that mean the CIA funds and trains AQ? Nope. But in a mind twisted by
conspiracies behind every shadow and rustling leaf, the "5 degrees of separation" is good enough of a connection.

And after the Soviet-Afghan war they were hired by MPRI, whom has more 4 star generals under contract than the pentagon, so you need to rethink the
date of the break, assuming there has been one. Whenever the Pentagon needs to do operations bypassing the congress or public at large, it is being
outsourced to this private organisation. MPRI sent the manpower left from the Soviet Afghan war (and fresh recruits) to fight in Bosnia. 5 of the
alleged 911 terrorists fought in Bosnia.

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