Raiders geared up for Colts, er, Broncos

When the Raiders look at the Denver Broncos these days, they feel as if they are looking at old the Indianapolis Colts.
Quarterback Peyton Manning is playing himself, with linebackers Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil playing the roles of Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis.
The Raiders admit that it really doesn’t matter how much time anyone has to prepare for Manning. He’s going to be a handful, no matter what. Game-planning for Miller and Dumervil isn’t any easier, especially on a short week.
“Yeah, they’re pretty good, man,” Raiders right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said. “They’re kind of like the old Indy. Peyton’s older, with a Mathis and Freeney type of deal.
“Von can rush, he can drop back and cover, and Elvis does a good job coming off the edge, too. They do well in their scheme. They do very good at what they do. So, pass blocking those guys is going to be key.”
Miller and Dumervil combined for 23 of the Broncos 38 sacks the first 12 games. Barnes and left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer figure to see the dynamic duo most often, though left guard Cooper Carlisle said the Broncos do some things to free up their best playmakers.
“They’re both a handful,” Carlisle said, “and they both kind of present different problems.”
To that end, Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said it’s incumbent upon him to devise ways to help keep Dumervil and Miller from teeing off on quarterback Carson Palmer. The best way is to keep in extra blockers.
“The more things you can show them, the more it helps,” Carlisle said. “At the same time, there’s times where you’re going to have to do it on your own.”

– Running backs coach Kelly Skipper said running back Darren McFadden looked sharp in practice Tuesday.
“You could see him cutting, you could see him bursting off the foot,” Skipper said. “You wouldn’t have noticed today that he had been injured.”
Skipper’s glowing report is consistent with coach Dennis Allen’s expectation of McFadden playing Thursday night for the time in five games.
For his part, McFadden said he is awaiting word from the team’s athletic trainers on whether his high-ankle sprain is healed well enough for him to play in a game.
“As long as they say I’m good to go, I’m going to sign off on it,” McFadden said.

– Safeties Matt Giordano and Mike Mitchell passed the league-mandated tests for players that suffer concussions. Therefore, they are cleared to play Thursday night.
Backup cornerback and punt returner Phillip Adams missed practice as a result of the concussion he suffered against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, the same game in which Giordano and Mitchell were concussed. He is questionable for the Broncos game.

– Knapp assumed the lead role at practice Tuesday as Allen remains in Texas, where Allen’s father Grady passed away Monday night.
Allen is expected to rejoin the Raiders on Wednesday night and coach his team against the Broncos.
Allen spent last season as the Broncos defensive coordinator, working under coach John Fox. During that time, Fox and the other Broncos coaches and players got a chance to meet Grady Allen.
Fox said Allen’s father’s passing puts things in perspective, with football taking its proper place in the background. He added that he texted Allen to pass along his condolences and to let him know he is thinking about him during this trying time.
“Well, No. 1, first and foremost is, he’s in the right place,” Fox said. “Sometimes we get a little caught up in what we do for a living and those types of things. But if that was something he would have asked me, I would have said you need to be with your family.”

– Defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring) missed practice once again. It seems almost certain that he won’t play Thursday night after missing the past four games.
Wide receiver Juron Criner (shoulder), tight end Brandon Myers (shoulder) and Barnes (triceps) were added to the injury report. All three were limited in practice Tuesday.

– The Raiders signed fullback/running back Jamize Olawale from the Dallas Cowboys practice squad and placed him on their 53-man roster.
Olawale fills the void on the active roster created by the two-game suspension of middle linebacker Rolando McClain, who is eligible to return Dec. 10.
Olawale is an undrafted rookie out of North Texas. He played for De La Salle High School his sophomore season before transferring to Long Beach Poly.

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gruden has ties to green bay
grudens up all night watching game film, mark davis is up all night…

Al_is_theraiders

i just hope DA is on his way out…

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

ok im getting juiced can allen now!!!!!!!!

ghost motion reverse action with TP6!!!!!

welcome to the wave of the future

Priesttj12

I woud take David Shaw over Gruden he worked on Gruden’s staff here. David knows us he was schooled here and he understads where the game is going. Gruden IMO is still stuck on Bill Walsh’s system and is a pure WCO alumni. He will never veer to far from that system and he believes QB’s show ONLY throw the football ask Gannon. He shackled Gannon to a larger degree everything is predicated on the checkdown and 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Raider fans who know football and really know Gruden understand this the rest of the Raider fans are just Gruden cult members.

The_Judge37

152.Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
i just hope DA is on his way out…
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Yes, i think with all the Gruden hype, we’re losing sight of what’s important here.

Raiderbuck

Guys in all honesty I can’t be objective about this. I want something like this to happen so bad. In paragraph in a web column doesn’t cut it for me.

Gruden would trim Palmer’s pass attempts down to 35-40 a game instead of 55-60 and that would bring his INT total down from 16-20 a year to 8-10 and turn him into a game manager BUT would supply him with enough creativity on offense that he could audible into some amazing stuff not this vanilla we are seeing now.

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

I woud take David Shaw over Gruden he worked on Gruden’s staff here. David knows us he was schooled here and he understads where the game is going. Gruden IMO is still stuck on Bill Walsh’s system and is a pure WCO alumni. He will never veer to far from that system and he believes QB’s show ONLY throw the football ask Gannon. He shackled Gannon to a larger degree everything is predicated on the checkdown and 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Raider fans who know football and really know Gruden understand this the rest of the Raider fans are just Gruden cult members.
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i feel you priest

however remember gannon had a noodle arm and brown and rice were no longer burners they had to throw short to be effective.

Besides did you see gruden breaking down newton and rgIII

he gushed over the offenses im certain he will use something similar when it comes to pryor.

Im convinced this is one of the main reasons he wants to be here.

if its true

The_Judge37

If we don’t get Gruden, how about we just go coachless for a little while

RaiderDanny

Its the thought that counts!

Al_is_theraiders

lmao…it is exciting but i just need to hear DA is out first…

Priesttj12

Fifteen years ago Jon Gruden was cutting edge state of the art young bright coach. Now he is just a run of the mill disciplinarian with an outdated offense………..period

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders Silverandblack666

TP6 would be moved to WR or traded if Gruden came here. like the other poster said Gruden does not have patience for rookie mistakes.

http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Seymour Bush Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:03 pm

Jon Gruden is an absolute football junkie. Jon studies the game, and knows the history of x’s and o’s probably better than anyone. Seriously. He has this group called the FFCA, the “Fired Football Coaches Assn” where guys looking for jobs can go to his office in Tampa and watch tape. Jon might be one of the great football minds on Earth right now, but he really isn’t that much of a people person where he can break that down to others. Particularly players. And that’s where the problem begins.
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i think you are over looking something

PLAYERS WANT TO WIN

when gruden comes in with his lombardi in tow he gets instant respect.

All of the player watch mnf so they are confident he knows the game

big mack and gruden will blind you with the glare of thier super bowl jewelery player will buy in.

unlike allen
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Last time I looked, Dennis Allen has as many rings as Jon Gruden. And Allen arguably had more to do with his team winning than Gruden. The issue with Jon is players tire of him quickly. After winning it all, Jon didn’t even post a winning record the NEXT SEASON. That’s hard to do.

Now that being said, it seems like players here are getting tired of Dennis Allen. But those players seem to be guys like McLame that are about to find out the LEAGUE is tired of THEM.

M Lonetree

it’s all up to Mr Mark and Carol. if they want Jon it is done. Owners own. Reggie would just have to follow that lead.

boss01

I’ll take Gruden’s “outdated” offense and play calling over Knapp’s any day.

Al_is_theraiders

yeah that would save money for the salary cap sirens…

DJ Johnny

Even if this happening it’s very doubtful it would be announced today with the circumstances of DA’s tragedy.

He did say IT IS NOT A DONE DEAL but he has very strong indication Gruden is coming back to Oakland.

http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

I woud take David Shaw over Gruden
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So would I.

The_Judge37

162.Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Fifteen years ago Jon Gruden was cutting edge state of the art young bright coach. Now he is just a run of the mill disciplinarian with an outdated offense………..period
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Uhhh, you do realize Gruden ran a West Coast offense right? Same West Coast offense they run now except without the ZBS.

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

what we do know is gruden IS still taking calls for gigs.

he spoke with Tennessee

http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

M Lonetree Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

it’s all up to Mr Mark and Carol. if they want Jon it is done. Owners own. Reggie would just have to follow that lead.
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Reggie would not follow their lead, Reggie would be out.

RaiderDanny

Who is THEM and who are THEY!- – Al Sharpton

MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
I woud take David Shaw over Gruden he worked on Gruden’s staff here. David knows us he was schooled here and he understads where the game is going. Gruden IMO is still stuck on Bill Walsh’s system and is a pure WCO alumni. He will never veer to far from that system and he believes QB’s show ONLY throw the football ask Gannon. He shackled Gannon to a larger degree everything is predicated on the checkdown and 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Raider fans who know football and really know Gruden understand this the rest of the Raider fans are just Gruden cult members.

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Like I said dude, don’t disagree, but the players will respect Gruden. Think they feel that way about Doogie Howser?

http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

The_Judge37 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

162.Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Fifteen years ago Jon Gruden was cutting edge state of the art young bright coach. Now he is just a run of the mill disciplinarian with an outdated offense………..period
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Uhhh, you do realize Gruden ran a West Coast offense right? Same West Coast offense they run now except without the ZBS.
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And the same WCO that 99% of you say you hate….

M Lonetree

Triple6,

if shanarat could learn new tricks with RG, and with Gruden having a new perspective, don’t you think Jon is intelligent enough to implement something different?

Raiderbuck

They will bring him in just for the ticket sales.

RaiderDanny

Gotta pain in my chest!

http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

Al_is_theraiders Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm

lmao…it is exciting but i just need to hear DA is out first…
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I don’t think he is going back you your Broncos.

M Lonetree

Seymour,

and if Reggie was out? so what?

Raiderbuck

What was the radio station in Chi town that Hub was on? What time did it happen? (about)

http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

Has anybody seen Gruden talking about the Raiders and a return, or are you people being played by Trolls?

What’d ya think?

DJ Johnny

I said this before but Arkush did not say Gruden was coming to be the new HC.

He said “prominent role” in the organization.

In fact the hosts were speculating for 20 mins. (appx) after Hub left as to what role Gruden would be holding down.

I woud take David Shaw over Gruden he worked on Gruden’s staff here. David knows us he was schooled here and he understads where the game is going. Gruden IMO is still stuck on Bill Walsh’s system and is a pure WCO alumni. He will never veer to far from that system and he believes QB’s show ONLY throw the football ask Gannon. He shackled Gannon to a larger degree everything is predicated on the checkdown and 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Raider fans who know football and really know Gruden understand this the rest of the Raider fans are just Gruden cult members.
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i feel you priest

however remember gannon had a noodle arm and brown and rice were no longer burners they had to throw short to be effective.

Besides did you see gruden breaking down newton and rgIII

he gushed over the offenses im certain he will use something similar when it comes to pryor.

Im convinced this is one of the main reasons he wants to be here.

if its true
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Mistic1 Trust me on this one I was as close to that situation as any fan could hope to be. He did NOT help Gannon it was the other way around I know most fans will chaffe at this but it is true. Gannon HATED Gruden and vice versa. Gannon and the offensive players blossomed when he LEFT. The offense exploded and Gannon won MVP and we went staright to the SB.

Quiet as kept Gruden cost us the Tuck Rule game more tha anything with his conservative approach. He is very abusive to young players. I know I was there they hated him especially Jerry Porter. He will come here all magnanemousand once he gets in he wil demand all the control Big Al refused to give him for his own good.

It took Bill Belichik and Tom Coughlin years to understand that approach doesn’t work the only way this works is if he changes and brings in a young coach to help him with his offense and his approach. I doubt he EVER allows that to happen.

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

bush allen has never been a head coach he won his ring as a position coach

gruden won as the hc

the team that gruden and bruce allen and davis sr built here was very good and went tot he superbowl the year gruden left.

It appears to me gruden had a hand in both superbowl teams that year.

gruden has a following here and his hire would sell tickets

this is entertainment business after all

Raiderbuck

Executive President of Football Operations?

DJ Johnny

Raiderbuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
What was the radio station in Chi town that Hub was on? What time did it happen? (about)
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WMAQ “The Score” AM 670.

Hub Arkush is the stations “Bears Expert”. He is also sideline reporter for MNF’s radio broadcasts and founder and president of Pro Football Weekly Tv Show.

162.Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Fifteen years ago Jon Gruden was cutting edge state of the art young bright coach. Now he is just a run of the mill disciplinarian with an outdated offense………..period
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Uhhh, you do realize Gruden ran a West Coast offense right? Same West Coast offense they run now except without the ZBS.
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And the same WCO that 99% of you say you hate….
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It’s Knapp we hate, ZBS second, WCO a distant 3rd

DJ Johnny

…this happened at appx. 5:20 CST which would be what….3:20 pst?

http://www.GodIsImaginary.com RaiderDuck

SMH

Once again, no NFL head coach since George Halas has returned to a former team and had a winning record.

I woud take David Shaw over Gruden he worked on Gruden’s staff here. David knows us he was schooled here and he understads where the game is going. Gruden IMO is still stuck on Bill Walsh’s system and is a pure WCO alumni. He will never veer to far from that system and he believes QB’s show ONLY throw the football ask Gannon. He shackled Gannon to a larger degree everything is predicated on the checkdown and 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Raider fans who know football and really know Gruden understand this the rest of the Raider fans are just Gruden cult members.
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i feel you priest

however remember gannon had a noodle arm and brown and rice were no longer burners they had to throw short to be effective.

Besides did you see gruden breaking down newton and rgIII

he gushed over the offenses im certain he will use something similar when it comes to pryor.

Im convinced this is one of the main reasons he wants to be here.

if its true
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Mistic1 Trust me on this one I was as close to that situation as any fan could hope to be. He did NOT help Gannon it was the other way around I know most fans will chaffe at this but it is true. Gannon HATED Gruden and vice versa. Gannon and the offensive players blossomed when he LEFT. The offense exploded and Gannon won MVP and we went staright to the SB.

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hmmmm

well priest, i will defer you were there you would know better than i would.

Interesting to note you are correct that callahans team put on an offensive show, better than what they did when gruden was here.

do you think he has learned anything since he has been away?

could he come back better?

has he been influenced by shanahan and rgIII, he and shanahan are boys

Priesttj12

You guys are yearning for something that is past it’s prime it’s time to move on and get the bets coaches available and stop chasing this false hope of a dream. It happened and it felt good but he’s the equivalent of a girl you once knew who’s aged and wrinkled and hair is falling out.She may still be a the same girl just not nearly as attractive as you think once she takes out the false teeth.

The_Judge37

182.KoolKell Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Has anybody seen Gruden talking about the Raiders and a return, or are you people being played by Trolls?

What’d ya think?
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Perhaps, but it has brightend the mood. So just have fun with it. As Raider fans, we shouldn’t have to be too prepared for disappointment.

jesusraiderjim

Like I said dude, don’t disagree, but the players will respect Gruden. Think they feel that way about Doogie Howser

Gruden would only return if he had control to eliminate the multitude of schizoid lamebrains from this site. (that is the only sticking point in the negotiations.)

ottocrat

Hey, I’ll say it: Gruden is coming back! There. It’s in print, on a blog! Therefore, it must be true. Maybe PFT can report on my bombshell too! Jeez, it’s like someone who’s in denial about an ex-girlfriend. SHE’S GONE, DUDE! SHE’S NOT COMING BACK!

RaiderDanny

We’ve been bamboozled,run amuk,lead astray!–Farakan

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

Priesttj12 Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

You guys are yearning for something that is past it’s prime it’s time to move on and get the bets coaches available and stop chasing this false hope of a dream. It happened and it felt good but he’s the equivalent of a girl you once knew who’s aged and wrinkled and hair is falling out.She may still be a the same girl just not nearly as attractive as you think once she takes out the false teeth.
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LMAO!!!!!

Raiderbuck

DJ Johnny Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Raiderbuck Says:
December 4th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
What was the radio station in Chi town that Hub was on? What time did it happen? (about)
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WMAQ “The Score” AM 670.

Hub Arkush is the stations “Bears Expert”. He is also sideline reporter for MNF’s radio broadcasts and founder and president of Pro Football Weekly Tv Show.
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