Sometimes pictures really are worth a thousand words; that’s why no comment is needed for these photos we found online

We found this link online, which we feel says all that needs to be said about this subject and the roster of pretenders calling themselves candidates for the Republican nomination for leader of the free world.

We also found this photo of Bobby, Josh, and Rush Limbaugh’s little brother, David. Duggar’s tweet with this photo referred to Bobby Jindal and David Limbaugh as “two great Americans.” BOBBY, JOSH AND RUSH’S LITTLE BROTHER

We feel no further comments are necessary. After all, some pictures really are worth a thousand words.

In case some of you have been out of touch lately, this should fill in the blanks.

Those stupid choices were crimes against children that bordered on incest. Amusing how some can find God’s forgiveness selectively but just can’t seem to find that same forgiveness when it goes against their agenda.

@Ramsey: and don’t forget that at least the father knew of the sexual abuse.

A 2006 police report, which was obtained by In Touch before its destruction, indicates that family patriarch Jim Bob Duggar knew as early as 2002 that Josh Duggar — who was 14 at the time — was accused of sexually abusing an underage girl. The teen was ultimately accused of inappropriately touching five underage girls, some of whom were his sisters, between 2002 and 2003.

“So glad I’m not being judged by the world for stupid choices I made as a teenager…”

Me, too, Elizabeth, and that is the saddest part of this whole thing – This isn’t about the FRC, candidates for POTUS, or even about hypocrisy at the highest levels of politics and organized religion. It is about an emotionally troubled and young teenager.

I don’t know any more about the Duggars and these incidents than I read at the links. Based on what is reported, the kid had psycho-sexual problems exhibited by inappropriately, and apparently obsessively touching female children. His victims are reported to have forgiven him and, unless something else comes out about this, he would appear to have overcome the problems and there are no indications his victims were permanently scarred.

I would ask everybody on here: If he had been your 13-14 year old child and his behavior was limited to what is reported here, would you have reported him to the police? Could there possibly have been a positive outcome for anybody involved? I would, on the other hand, have tried to get him some actual help with his problems.

People seem all-too-willing to forgive much worse misbehavior by adult politicians and religious figures. They apparently accept the hypocrisy they exhibit as a fact of life.

Duggar was not being hypocritical. He was being a troubled kid. If you consider his behavior as an adult to be hypocritical, ask yourself if and when, in his position, you would have told a story of a period in your troubled youth that could actually scar everybody involved forever?

Oh, I don’t really know your mind; I was making a general statement much the same as you did. But I assume you consider it just fine that Josh lumped all gays together to “judge” them for their “child molesting ways” while wrapping himself in the flag and hiding behind a Bible. (Open the link below and read the story; it seems obvious that you have not done so.)

Not only did he commit these crimes but then for years he went about condemning others’ lifestyles while concealing his heinous acts—until caught, of course, and then he, like so many before him (Clinton, Vitter, Livingston, Swaggart, Jim Bakker, et al) is the very picture of contrition and remorse.

Yes, I do judge people who show themselves to be the worst kind of hypocrite.

Perhaps the same agenda that condemns all those on food stamps as deadbeats even as the Wall Street traders rob us blind and corporations continue to send jobs overseas. Maybe even the same agenda that believes people can live on $7.25 an hour and that we do not need to raise the minimum wage. You could even be among those that believe the poor do not need health insurance and that they should get off their backsides and go to work—never mind that they are working at minimum wage and cannot afford health insurance.

You may even subscribe to the idea that all Islamics are evil and that the Mexicans are taking over our country. You could even be that person I saw at the post office on Columbus Day who blamed Obama because it was a holiday and the post office was closed. Never mind that Columbus Day has been a holiday since Moby Dick was a guppy.

It occurred to me that, were one of these fundamentalist Christians to win, they might appoint Duggar (or someone worse) to some high post in the new administration. Wonder how that might turn out? Maybe kinda like Cheney and Rummy though they were not of the same ilk they were plenty bad enough.

I wonder what Daddy Jim Bob would have done if Josh had a fondness for young BOYS? Thankfully, it was only his sisters and other little girls. Boys will be boys. (And I am totally being sarcastic for those who need to have this explained.)

This kid obviously has a problem and needs help. This isn’t a Republican or Democrat issue that needs to be politicized. I had no idea who this kid was before last week but yet the left holds him up to speak for the whole Christian community. He doesn’t.

I’m probably the last person that would ever speak a kind word about Jindal, but taking a photo with someone shouldn’t force you to atone for their sins. It’s a picture. If this is the standard you want to hold politicians to, then we have just entered a new shameless era of journalism.

I was reluctant to post this but after reading some of Josh Duggar’s quotes in which he painted all gays with the same broad pedophile brush even as he continued to conceal his own transgressions, it struck me as a little more than a kid with a problem. Instead, he came across as deceitful and more than a little two-faced and I feel that Jindal is just as hypocritical. If I’m guilty of yellow journalism, so be it. But after all the ones who have gone before him down that same path–Swaggart, Vitter, Weiner and others too numerous to mention, I just couldn’t look the other way and say, “Oh well, he was just a boy at the time…” He was old enough to know it was wrong and then for him to try to take the high moral ground was just a little over the top.

Tom, I’m not going to speak for The (2nd) Real Bob, but I do see a distinction between what Duggar did as a kid and what he is (or was) doing now. Does he really believe the things he espouses now? I have no earthly idea and I really don’t care because, like TRB, I had honestly never really heard of him or his show before and I don’t care to hear of him again.

Are a significant number of politicians and televangelists hypocrites? Certainly, and there is clear documentation this is so. Does the FRC believe we should all agree with their platform? No doubt, and many of their adherents probably also believe some of us are going straight to hell when we die unless we repent of our current beliefs and get on their bandwagon.

I’m as fed up with this as you, so I can see why you’ve reached a “Network” point. It is truly maddening.

Hmmm, Can’t help but wonder what all this publicity will do to Jindal’s exploratory run for POTUS. What will he do if the FRC cancels his trip to Israel scheduled on Oct. 2015? One thing for sure is the LA State Police can reduce budget expenses if the trip is canceled.

It’s ok for the right to hold him up and laud his tv show as promoting good christian values but not the left as you refer to them (I prefer any rational person) to excoriate his hypocrisy and detest the currency politicians often seek hypocritically espousing family values? Vitter, but of course he’s been forgiven. Forgiveness is great, but it’s the hypocrisy that galls, where everyone ( who believes the nonsense) is made the butt of a sick pathetic lie. You won’t find a lot of Democrats promoting anti- LGBT agendas. Thus the visceral response when conservative ” Christians” like the fervently vocal, anti-“gay” Michigan pastor Matthew Makela was outed by his membership on Grinder, a gay dating website and forced to resign this month. Jindal is self- promoting 24/7 and thus should be judged by the public figures he’s photographed with, simply because it’s always an attempt to affiliate himself with someone he thinks can advance Jindal. If he wasn’t such a phony folks might be inclined to cut more slack. But to quote David Bowie BJ has ” never done anything out of the blue.” I don’t know where you’ve been “real bob” since the “Joe the plumber/ complete phony” days, and more recently U.S. Senator, chairman of the Environment and Public works committee and peerless panderer James Inhofe tossed a snowball on the Senate floor to disprove climate change but shamelessness in politics and news ( loosely used) as fabricated and enabled by Roger Ailes is De Riguer on the right. By the way “The Real Bob” your failure to respond with specific examples of the ” War on Christianity” in the good old USA was very conspicuous, and therefore might be seen by some as shameless and perhaps even cowardly.

No name calling, please. We all have a right to our opinions and LouisianaVoice welcomes all comments, pro and con and it our hope that the free exchange of ideas can take place without name calling. The Real Bob disagrees with me but he was never rude and not once did he disparage anyone–even the one (me) with whom he disagreed.

I understand and respect your request and will abide by it. I however understood you to be referenced as shameless which picqued ( sic) me. I believe your readership is growing, and ive been telling folks about it for years. I believe you have plenty of smart righteous folk writing in, in fact more than enough. So ss to avoid getting frustrated and crossing the line you rightly demand it’s best for both uf us I bid adieu. Keep up the good work Mr. Aswell!

Ramsey Lorre, it would be fun to meet you and to discuss Christianity with you. 🙂 I’ve been a Christian my entire, long life and was blessed to have had one of the finest Christian moms to have ever lived. She was born in 1912, grew up with the “old values”, and until her dying day, believed that all of us are born as we are meant to be…gay or straight. I happen to agree. So be very careful making assumptions. What Josh Dugger did was beyond horrible, and he is finally paying for it with public opinion of him. However, since I chose to believe in a God of forgiveness, I KNOW that he can be forgiven and can choose to live a life of goodness. ..just as I and millions of others have been forgiven. Praise God!

I understand and respect your position. At the same time, I have my own opinion and as I said, what he did was criminal and beyond despicable. And for him to stand before a television camera and condemn ANYONE, especially “child molesting” gays, is, in my opinion, unforgiveable.

elizabeth stetson – I too believe in a God of forgiveness, who will forgive any and every transgression if we are truly repentant (and only He knows our hearts). The earthly proof is whether the forgiven person “sins no more” in the vein in which s/he has asked for forgiveness. In other words, you can’t commit the same transgression over and over, ask for and be forgiven, and keep doing the same thing. At some point God and man realize that person’s insincerity. I am grateful for all He has forgiven me and try and fail daily to live as He commands. At least I try not to commit the same transgressions again and again. My personal philosophy is not to vest too much in any human – we all have feet of clay.

Graham, I hope you will reconsider commenting on LV. Your post was thoughtful and frustrations revealed and therein lies your humanness. This topic is far more sensitive than most believe and comments on popular sites are demonstrating strong emotions in bloggers everywhere.

Graham – agreeing with Tom and leekhoury – no need to leave LV. We are all passionate on this site and are generally respectful of others’ passionate comments. I am grateful that y’all have not shushed some of my own over-the-top comments.

Your comments are as valuable as anyone else’s. We are all better for the discourse. Hope to hear from you again soon.

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