ATF to Outlaw Shotguns

I don't understand what peoples problems are.
What they don't want us to have guns because it's not our job to protect ourselves it's the cops jobs.

Bull, last I checked every year there are cases of police brutality.
Not to mention there was an appeals court decision a few years ago that said "cops are not legally required to protect and serve if such protection
can put their lives in danger".
There was a big stink a cop drove by an assault several times until the crowd disbanded then went in to help the person was either dead or severely
crippled I can't remember.
The family sued, and on appeal the cops/city won.
The judge said in their ruling that it's not appropriate to expect a cop, firefighter or any other public servant to put themselves in danger to
protect or save a citizen.

WTF!
So if the anti-gun lobby is saying cops are supposed to protect us and the courts say not the cops then who?

Ugh! I can't wait till all the gun lobby people finally run out of stupid ideas.

Those have been outlawed for some time already, so they aren't the targets. I'd imagine a shotgun like mine is the target. It's been referred to as
a "room broom", and some of my more imaginative friends refer to it as my "reloadable claymore". it was purpose built for combat - several
thousand USMC issues of it can't be wrong!

It was very nice of you to solicit comments on your new proposed rule in reference to shotguns. Since you asked, here's my comment, in writing -
"Molon labe". Whatever you decide concerning your silly-assed rules trying to justify your silly-assed job, that comment is all I really have for
you.

surely banning shotguns will be a stupid task as i bet theres more of them in the USA than there is blades of grass so i'd hate to be an ATF
guy having to knock on doors and ask for them unless you have a very good package that will look after your family after your death

It’s actually quite easy. They pass the ban and institute HARSH penalties for anyone caught in possession of the prohibited weapons. Then they offer
a grace period for people to turn them in. Many law abiding citizens will do so for fear of 10 years imprisonment (or whatever the penalty). They will
also watch who is purchasing ammo for those types of weapons so they can track down the holdouts.

Yes, that is the sort of bureaucratic logic they employ in taking such decisions, but there are certain flaws in that logic. if someone is willing to
throw down and put their life on the line in defense of their rights, a measly 10 year sentence on a maybe isn't going to budge them much... they
don't plan on living long enough to serve that time.

Watching for ammo purchases for ammo that will only work in banned guns is a fools errand and a gimme job. If they guns are banned, why continue to
sell the ammo? When you know the answer to that, it's but a short jump to the decision to not BUY that ammo - rely on prior stock instead, or, well,
you know, some of the other methods available for the care and feeding of firearms.

This is a massive statement to make. Guns work with mechanisms, and mechanisms are prone to be faulty from time to time. I know of a incident in which
a man had his rifle leaned up standing in the leg well of his car as he drove - hit a ditch in the dirt road and blew his face off.

I'm against guns in civilian hands, mainly because I know how unintelligent and quick to anger the majority are...and this is before we take into
account egos, drugs, alcohol and other reason-impairment.

This is a massive statement to make. Guns work with mechanisms, and mechanisms are prone to be faulty from time to time. I know of a incident in which
a man had his rifle leaned up standing in the leg well of his car as he drove - hit a ditch in the dirt road and blew his face off.

I stand by what I said.

Carrying a rifle in such a manner IS negligence. He paid the price for carelessness.

I'm against guns in civilian hands, mainly because I know how unintelligent and quick to anger the majority are...and this is before we take into
account egos, drugs, alcohol and other reason-impairment.

It really doesn't matter in the long run what you are against, or what I am for. The Bill of rights doesn't take the vagaries of our individual
opinions into account, with the exception that you are not required by it to own a firearm, and I am guaranteed by it the chance to own one.

Originally posted by Revealation
I hope they ban all guns. Give all the LEGAL gun owners a reason to buy ILLEGAL and FULLy Automatic weapons. Makes sense right?

Don't see the logic of the moronic, self serving, manipulative, manmade laws they continue to pass. I thought they all had ivy league educations.
Don''t they realize that the more they push, take and try to control people, the worse people are gonna react?

The purpose of this study is to establish criteria that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives (ATF) will use to determine the importability of certain shotguns under the
provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA).

The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) generally prohibits the importation of firearms into the
United States. 1 However, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 925(d), the GCA creates four narrow
categories of firearms that the Attorney General must authorize for importation. Under one such
category, subsection 925(d)(3), the Attorney General shall approve applications for importation
when the firearms are generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to
sporting purposes (the “sporting purposes test”).

etc.

So some classes of shotguns can't be imported......but presumably can still be purchased if made in the good ol' USA.

so nope - no actual outlawing of shotguns at all - what a bugger huh??!!

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