Very different signature - the CK100 rolls off in the bass region and has pretty bright "audio-technica" treble, as well as forward mids. The SD-2 has extended bass, the mids are not at all forward, and the treble is a little relaxed.

Thanks. How much darker is the treble of the SD-2 compared to the CK100? I've kind of got accustomed to that sort of treble energy.

Considering the Fidelio S2 is going for 94$ would you prefer the Onkyos at the same price range? The fidelios are less "fun" I presume?

No; yes. The Onkyos have a few things going for them but they are not at the level of the Philips or the RE-400 or the GR07 when it comes to fidelity. They're more competition for the RBH EP1 I reviewed the other day - fun and consumer-friendly, but with room to grow on the fidelity side. Best thing about them is probably the presentation, which is spacious, open, and airy. They can easily give the GR07 or Fidelio S2 a run for the money there.

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Thanks. How much darker is the treble of the SD-2 compared to the CK100? I've kind of got accustomed to that sort of treble energy.

Don't know how to quantify it really other than to say it's noticeably darker.

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can i add r-50 and gr01 in the list

thanks :)

All of these earphones you're looking at have similar bass quantity. The GR01 is the best of the bunch but there's a very good chance it still won't have enough bass for you - it only has a few dB on the B2. If you found the B2 to have no bass you might be better off with a hybrid design like the T-Peos H-100 or Dunu DN-1000.

I'm looking to get a new pair of dynamic driver IEMs. I'm looking to spend ~$50-100 and am hoping to find something that has the roughly same sound as my Phonak PFE 111's (grey filter. Although I'd be happier if Phonak made a dark grey one). Right now I'm looking towards the Audio-Technica IM50 or the Vsonic VSD3 when they get released. I'll be primarily listening on my Fiio X3 so I need something that'll play well with it's warm sig. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I'm looking to get a new pair of dynamic driver IEMs. I'm looking to spend ~$50-100 and am hoping to find something that has the roughly same sound as my Phonak PFE 111's (grey filter. Although I'd be happier if Phonak made a dark grey one). Right now I'm looking towards the Audio-Technica IM50 or the Vsonic VSD3 when they get released. I'll be primarily listening on my Fiio X3 so I need something that'll play well with it's warm sig. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers.

The Phonaks are BA-based and are still very competitive, especially if you're only looking at dynamic earphones with a similar sound signature. Can't comment on the IM50 or VSD3, though.

All of these earphones you're looking at have similar bass quantity. The GR01 is the best of the bunch but there's a very good chance it still won't have enough bass for you - it only has a few dB on the B2. If you found the B2 to have no bass you might be better off with a hybrid design like the T-Peos H-100 or Dunu DN-1000

do you think h-100 will have same clarity of B2?

between vc1000 and b2, which one do you think have better clarity and detail ? or is it on the same level?

i will pair vc1000 with fiio e11 to boost the bass if it has same clarity as b2, coz vc1000 is much cheaper in indonesia.

The Phonaks are BA-based and are still very competitive, especially if you're only looking at dynamic earphones with a similar sound signature. Can't comment on the IM50 or VSD3, though.

Thanks, you're doing some excellent work here.

I'm very happy with the 111s, but since they're now discontinued I want to get a secondary pair for when I'm out and about (I'd really hate to freeze them to death). I figured I'd look at a dynamic mostly to get a different sound, but with a similar sig. Although maybe if I can find a cheap pair of 012s I might get 'em and use one of my spare greys with them. Also I kinda want a new toy for the new year. Still if you could offer some suggestions for under $100 that might pair well with the X3 I'll check em out.