I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

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Apart from moral conduct, all that man thinks himself able to do in order to become acceptable to God is mere superstition and religious folly. - Immanuel Kant

I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

Can an ex-Orthodox Christian still receive communion? If they can't, then that sounds like a "consequence" to me.

I suppose it depends on a number of factors, including what is meant by "ex-Orthodox". Are we talking about someone who just stops going for a year and then shows up on Easter? In that case I don't know. If we're talking about someone that specifically makes a decision to leave the Church, then I would hope they'd have enough integrity to go through a process of reconciliation, though I don't know how individual priests might handle it.

Can an ex-Orthodox Christian still receive communion? If they can't, then that sounds like a "consequence" to me.

I suppose it depends on a number of factors, including what is meant by "ex-Orthodox". Are we talking about someone who just stops going for a year and then shows up on Easter? In that case I don't know. If we're talking about someone that specifically makes a decision to leave the Church, then I would hope they'd have enough integrity to go through a process of reconciliation, though I don't know how individual priests might handle it.

I was thinking of the latter. (For the former I would tend to say lapsed rather than ex.)

Not trying to change the subject, but I recall one or more ex-Catholic posters who still expected to be allowed to receive communion from Catholic ministers (I don't recall what thread this was on, or even whether it was on OCnet or a different forum).

I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

Depends on where you are "looking" from.

What is there we do in this life that is "without consequence"?

This personal back-and-forth between you two is what I had in mind when I posted my "Knock it off!" warning a few posts ago. Any more of this, and you'll both receive a Green Dot for driving this thread off topic.

I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

I genuinely don't get it. You're told that only people who consciously reject Orthodoxy are heretics or apostates (a la reply 702) but then when you use those terms in that context to make a theological point you're somehow still using them wrong. Weird how that works.

On topic: looks like Orthodoxy is pretty open to reuniting if you can now leave her without consequence.

Depends on where you are "looking" from.

What is there we do in this life that is "without consequence"?

This personal back-and-forth between you two is what I had in mind when I posted my "Knock it off!" warning a few posts ago. Any more of this, and you'll both receive a Green Dot for driving this thread off topic.

Yeah you're right; both sides screwed up big time. Either way, those events did sort of set the schism in stone though. I remember reading that prior to these events, most people were not even aware of the schism.