The also much-needed "XenialDog Maintenance Thread" I opened was removed by someone.

Well, contrary to any alternative 'claims', all DebianDogs were community projects (so that includes XenialDog). But DD is based on Debian live and the other on Ubuntu live; there are many differences between these two live systems, so if only a DebianDog Project Maintenance thread was allowed on this forum there would be no suitable place for us maintaining XenialDog. I have personal work involved in both of these distributions and this is supposed to be an open-source forum allowing developers the resource to work on their projects.

I have no further interest in any arguments between Fred and Toni, but I use the operating systems I work on (and also my created_for_Puppy/DD/XenialDog bash/C/gtkdialog-based applications) and object to being prevented from working separately on XenialDog-related issues on this forum. As I say, all dogs are community projects; no-one can ask for that work to be locked or deleted without agreement from the other contributors.

Am currently trying to separate out DD and XenialDog projects for obvious reasons but the lockout/deletion actions being taken by this forum are hindering that process and thus threatening further development - that is a misuse of forum moderator control power, which acts against the opensource community model.

Most of all of our work is released to the community under Open Source licenses - the only cost charged to the community (and forum) is that we be granted free access to develop our work. That has been denied - the open source community license terms thus become invalid (certainly morally) and all parts of our work may cease to be open-source since existing understood terms and conditions have been broken/invalidated._________________SomeOfMyWork with links:
dCoreDogweX, scrox, Precord, Premote, fokSyfEyeR, xhippo-mod, flite_hts_pet

As I say, all dogs are community projects; no-one can ask for that work to be locked or deleted without agreement from the other contributors.

I don't like to feel guilty for locking your and others work, William.
I asked ttuuxxx to reopen all locked threads started by me.
When he do it I will bring them up by quoting your post here.
Let the community decide what to do with these threads. I think opening new and new threads for the same project doesn't help anyone.
But you know very well all DebianDog, MintPup, XenialDog projects are non-free product and you know the reason for this. You brought this problem up pointing to unlicensed scripts I can't modify without Fred's permission. You can't turn them into community projects as long as this problem (unlicensed scripts inside) exists.
Still I'm glad you can see yours and others work in Fred's scripts today. You were smart enough to add your name as contributor in DD scripts. I and others were not that smart at that time

But you know very well all DebianDog, MintPup, XenialDog projects are non-free product and you know the reason for this. You brought this problem up pointing to unlicensed scripts I can't modify without Fred's permission. You can't turn them into community projects as long as this problem (unlicensed scripts inside) exists.
Still I'm glad you can see yours and others work in Fred's scripts today. You were smart enough to add your name as contributor in DD scripts. I and others were not that smart at that time

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Do what you want as a community. My part ends with opening the threads.

A quick question: presumed all the obstacles (license, etc.,) have been resolved/eliminated - how long would it take you to get back to business and deploy DebianDog Stretch JWM/Rox in coordination with Fred and his choice - Openbox/Pcmanfm or whatever it is?

You`re not the only one .Had similar problems with download.....somewhere in the middle of the download the process ended ......took me 4,5 or 6 ( can`t exactly remember) new trials to get my download to finish...have no explanation.....my web-browser is Palemoon .....maybe has something to do with it .....but not sure .
Did not report it ...because i finally got my Iso...so did not further think about .

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