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Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

i dont know if it has been touched on but what a very solid game by hansbrough. really good role player off the bench. I would really not like to see us lose him. i dont know what he expects to be paid but the cat is a winner. and gives it all. he played solid tonight.

The Heat guarded him with small forwards. That basically turns him back into College Hansbrough. Most nights, he can't just force his will in the post like that. I'd still look for something else in the offseason at backup 4, if possible. Taller, longer, more athletic (someone who can finish better). Basically another Lou-for-Ian type of upgrade.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

The Heat guarded him with small forwards. That basically turns him back into College Hansbrough. Most nights, he can't just force his will in the post like that. I'd still look for something else in the offseason at backup 4, if possible. Taller, longer, more athletic (someone who can finish better). Basically another Lou-for-Ian type of upgrade.

Birdman Chris Anderson gaurded him i know some in this game and he is a PF. I do not like the Birdman on the Heat. I dont disagree with you, I would like an upgrade in some respects as well but at the right price I would be happy to have Tyler return. You know what your going to get with Hansbrough. He is sort of a barmometer player in that no matter if were up/down 20 or even he is going to play as hard as any player on the court.

the Heat fans per the links given were hating on Hansbrough with a certain level of respect. He is a guy like Noah other teams do not want to face. Its same reason Bulls wanted Hansbrough and we selected him right before. Imagine a Hansbrough/Noah frontline.

No doubt Noah is the better player, but as a role player off the bench Hansbrough servers a very good role. Hansbrough beats players up and in a 7 game playoff series it will have an effect on teams.

is there a better PF combo in the Eastern Conference than Mr. BAMF West and Hansbrough? I would not want to be the opposing teams PF to face those two 48 minutes a game.

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Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

I thought West was just a man's man tonight. Tangled it up with the Heat, and was just on fire from everywhere. He's the one guy on that court that even LeBron and Wade are afraid to punk.

It's no secret that we just really match up well against the Heat. If you add Mahinmi and Lance to last year's group, we now match up even better with George's progression. I thought a bunch of people played very well. Hibbert still hasn't found his scoring stroke, but the scary part is that we haven't needed it him to yet so far. Even scarier is this was without Danny Granger.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

He is a guy like Noah other teams do not want to face. Its same reason Bulls wanted Hansbrough and we selected him right before. Imagine a Hansbrough/Noah frontline.

No doubt Noah is the better player, but as a role player off the bench Hansbrough servers a very good role. Hansbrough beats players up and in a 7 game playoff series it will have an effect on teams.

is there a better PF combo in the Eastern Conference than Mr. BAMF West and Hansbrough? I would not want to be the opposing teams PF to face those two 48 minutes a game.

Hans gets lot of hate around here, and I've never been able to figure out why. Is he a starting PF? no. But he's one of the best back-up PFs in the league. I always like to compare him to Taj Gibson, whom people always seem to love. Hans has a better PER, better true shooting percentage, and a better rebounding rate (and better consistent effort). I'd rather have Hans than Taj, and the stats back me up. Other would disagree, probably the Vinz dude who hates everything Pacers, but Hans is not a weak point on this team.

Now finding options at point guard, that's important.

As for the game last night, hells yeah. I love beating the Heat as it seems like a victory against the NBA system (and refs) and because I just HATE Wade. I always hoped last year we'd stick in Fez just to destroy Wade.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

Hans gets lot of hate around here, and I've never been able to figure out why. Is he a starting PF? no. But he's one of the best back-up PFs in the league. I always like to compare him to Taj Gibson, whom people always seem to love. Hans has a better PER, better true shooting percentage, and a better rebounding rate (and better consistent effort). I'd rather have Hans than Taj, and the stats back me up. Other would disagree, probably the Vinz dude who hates everything Pacers, but Hans is not a weak point on this team.

Now finding options at point guard, that's important.

As for the game last night, hells yeah. I love beating the Heat as it seems like a victory against the NBA system (and refs) and because I just HATE Wade. I always hoped last year we'd stick in Fez just to destroy Wade.

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Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

No one can tell me the Heat didn't care about this game as much as we did or that they didn't go for it like we did, 42 minutes from Lebron and 41 from Wade? That is 4 more minute than normal for Lebron and 7 minutes more than normal from Wade. Those are the playoff minutes. Heat wanted this game, they played for this game, they fought us much harder on the boards, and they still couldn't do it. They can act like it doesn't matter, and they can tell the media that all they want, but they played their playoff rotation and they still got their asses beat, and trust me in that locker room, they know it.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

If the Pacers had homecourt advantage throughout the playoffs, they'd probably win the title. Unfortunately, they have to play games on the road. But they might win 35-36 games at home this season.

I think that number is ridiculously high, but if we win 35-36 games and can claw close to .500 on the road, then we would be about 55-27 or so probably, that might be good enough for the one or the 2, it would also mean that we went HAM on the NBA down the stretch.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

We've appear to have taken step one toward making a legitimate claim to being deep playoff contenders (ECF/NBAF), which is to dominate your home floor.

However, I think the true legitimacy comes by complementing that with decent road success, and we haven't quite taken that step yet. We are not necessarily that far off, so it could happen. Maybe it doesn't even really coalesce until the playoffs.

But, if and whenever it happens, that's the only thing the will have me truly confident we are legit contenders.

Remember this team was the best road team in the East last year, can you get that mojo back with Danny's return? If so can you go 11-4 on the road to close out to get just over .500?

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

Is it crazy to suggest that we let Danny guard Wade when he comes back so Paul can stick to guarding LeBron? No one is suggesting Danny is a better defender than Paul at this point, are they?

No, but I think Lebron would have a harder time posting Danny up than he does posting PG up.

I think Danny will be a huge help on the road. The offensive help will be huge.

I thought Lance was terrible on offense for a lot of the game (Overdribbled, stupid passes, dumb shots - speaking of which, I hope he doesn't get in the habit of fadeaways), but his defense on Wade was fantastic. Enough so that we're definitely able to go small at times and have Danny on Bosh, PG on Lebron, and Lance on Wade. (Although, I feel like that gives up our advantage of being bigger...plus, this is the only team that I actively want to play Tyler against, but it's still an option.) And he's absolutely not afraid of playing against the Heat.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

The thing is, LeBron is still too strong for Danny, which means the 'advantage' of DG over PG in that case is relatively negligible now. So then you have to consider what else each of them does as defenders. Danny's a better shot blocker. But Paul seems to have superior instincts, quicker hands, and he is quicker/faster (which is just as important as being relatively 'strong enough' to guard LeBron; the ability to stay in front of him in the first place). Danny was a tad bit longer than PG, but since Paul added 1-2" of height, I think his arm wingspan might have stretched a bit with it. In any case, they're pretty similar in the length / size department now.

In general, when Danny's having a good defensive night, he strikes me as a very good defender. Paul strikes me as an elite defender.

Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

From Elias: David West scored 30 points on 12-for-15 shooting, while also grabbing seven rebounds and handing out five assists in the Pacers' 102-89 home win over the Heat. West is only the second Indiana player to post a 30-5-5 (points-rebounds-assists) line while shooting at least 80% from the field in an NBA game. Stephen Jackson (30-6-5, 80%) did that against the Warriors on Feb. 10, 2006.

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Re: Pacers/Heat Postgame Thread 2/1/13

"We're not worried about that," LeBron James said with a shrug. "We don't put too much into losing a game or winning a game, we want to get better from those games. We don't need victories versus top teams to prove what we're capable of doing. We don't need them. We'd love to have them, but we don't need them."

"I would love to win every game against all the top teams," Wade said. "Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. All you need to do during the regular season is work your game."

So, Wade and Lebron don't care about losing to the Pacers, yet they both played over 40 minute. Riiiiiiiight.