dang, now that you say it, i could totally imagine daydream on isn't anything

duovamp

10-21-2012, 09:42 PM

Half the songs on Zeitgeist are Sum-41 rip offs.

Butt Pope

10-21-2012, 09:54 PM

Tear garden is a ripoff of somebody farting in a coffee can.

he/she/it

10-21-2012, 10:54 PM

Half the songs on Zeitgeist are Sum-41 rip offs.

Twitter that to the man.

Shallowed

10-22-2012, 12:08 AM

any song in particular or just the style?

Probably "Lose My Breath"

Radiofred

10-22-2012, 12:06 PM

Ted Nugent - Stranglehold

opera de nuit

10-22-2012, 12:40 PM

Probably "Lose My Breath"

or similarly, 'i can see it (but i can't feel it)'

New Art Rioter

10-22-2012, 03:13 PM

Translucent = Galaxie 500

terrence

10-22-2012, 07:57 PM

This is one of the clearest rip-offs I've ever heard.. Does this song remind anyone of a particular Siamese Dream single? I'm about 99% sure Corgan was quoted in an interview talking about this song being a copycat

Some people claim Cherub ripped-off Bytor and the Snowdog, but I've never been able to hear it.

slunken

10-22-2012, 11:39 PM

nobody has mentioned the pre-chorus "last night i turned around" from wound and cheap trick's "surrender"

slunken

10-22-2012, 11:42 PM

also landslide, dancing in the moonlight

houseofglass11

10-22-2012, 11:51 PM

Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2UU62UcP_BA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

reprise85

10-23-2012, 12:07 AM

wow that rush one

Reyngel

10-23-2012, 12:24 AM

Years back I asked Billy if 'Wound' was directly influenced by U2's 'Where the Streets Have No Name.' He took a step forward and said, "Whoa... I didn't think anyone would ever notice that. It was, good job." But as I was about to ask a follow-up question, someone else jumped in to ask him stuff.

So, Wound.

Reyngel

10-23-2012, 12:25 AM

nobody has mentioned the pre-chorus "last night i turned around" from wound and cheap trick's "surrender"

See my above post. Wound is actually a copy of U2's Where the Streets Have No Name, at least musically.

slunken

10-23-2012, 02:42 PM

okay i'll buy that but

the "last night i turned around" line that was added post-arising has also been confirmed as being ripped off of cheaptricks surrender

Rairun

10-23-2012, 05:26 PM

The melody in wound is also pretty similar to "If You Could Read My Mind" by Gordon Lightfoot.

Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2UU62UcP_BA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

dronestar

11-03-2012, 08:30 PM

Also, ^^^ this.

Shocking.

Araneae

11-03-2012, 08:51 PM

Someone posted a thread about this song similarity before, scorpions darklady and tarantula.

emilem

11-04-2012, 05:00 AM

Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

he was indeed quite inspired by neu back then considering he tried to emulate hallogallo in starla as well

New Art Rioter

11-04-2012, 09:53 AM

Wow, that Neu song, yes completely!

pale_princess

11-04-2012, 11:24 AM

i thought when i was a teenager the opening riff of celebrity skin was bill's passive-aggressive way of getting back at collective soul. it doesn't sound unlike gel.

terrence

11-09-2012, 04:24 PM

Bill ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4

Couldn't be more obvious.

Yeah. Talk about a cross between Cherub Rock and Starla...

lucca

11-09-2012, 07:43 PM

INXS - Just Keep Walking chorus sounds similar to the Zero riff... listen at 0:30

Admittedly I'm late to the party, but I've seen a lot of posts reflecting on the similarities between "1979" and The Frogs' "Pleasure".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRto3kmtQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8BcubKDbE0

While that might (possibly) be up for debate, an obvious song that Billy ripped off lyrically is "We're An American Band" by Grand Funk Railroad with "Cash Car Star". Billy literally ripped the song off word for word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiBHfXnbyXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9KVcLCUek

What are some other Pumpkins songs where Billy obviously ripped off another song/artist?

Shallowed

03-22-2015, 11:54 PM

That's not ripping off, it's a reference. Artists do it all the time.

Off the top of my head, there's Pink Floyd's Let There Be More Light - "For there revealed in glowing robes was Lucy in the sky"

Shallowed

03-22-2015, 11:54 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=songs+that+quote+other+songs

NovaFritz

03-23-2015, 12:03 AM

In Corgan's celebration of Rush, he mentions ripping off parts of this song for Cherub Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UU62UcP_BA&spfreload=10

NovaFritz

03-23-2015, 12:17 AM

Also, the grunting at the end of Hairspray Queen. Billy is cribbin' the other scribe.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hWNjQD7FNXQ

I actually don't think Billy ripped it off intentionally, because it's actually just an ascending major scale. Sounds cool tho.

dodoz

03-23-2015, 08:04 AM

Duran Duran's "Hungry like the Wolf" in "Suffer".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX0PjxaEkLE&t=43s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHURp8xSK8&t=15s

FoolofaTook

03-23-2015, 09:31 AM

the main riff of toase is blatantly from the red hot chili peppers' all around the world we can make time rompin and a stompin cuz im in my prime

dodoz

03-23-2015, 12:59 PM

Billy said he wrote "Daydream", trying to write a song like My Bloody Valentine.

I think it's that song he used as a reference point. They are both very different though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAS9uY3-Fx8

Jelly Blossom

03-23-2015, 01:44 PM

That's not ripping off, it's a reference. Artists do it all the time.

Off the top of my head, there's Pink Floyd's Let There Be More Light - "For there revealed in glowing robes was Lucy in the sky"

If Billy had simply used the song title like Pink Floyd did with their Beatle reference then you might have an argument here, but instead Billy takes, line by line mind you, lyrics directly from GFR's "We're An American Band".

Quite frankly, Don Brewer would have a strong case in court against Billy if the song were to ever be commercially released.

Grox

03-23-2015, 01:56 PM

If Billy had simply used the song title like Pink Floyd did with their Beatle reference then you might have an argument here, but instead Billy takes, line by line mind you, lyrics directly from GFR's "We're An American Band".

Quite frankly, Don Brewer would have a strong case in court against Billy if the song were to ever be commercially released.

dude, it's a parody, cash car star is sung from the perspective of the Glass character or whatever, the reference and its reasons for being there are obvious. GFR are exactly the type of broad, obnoxious rock band that the song and the MACHINA concept (barf) are all about

Jelly Blossom

03-23-2015, 02:49 PM

dude, it's a parody, cash car star is sung from the perspective of the Glass character or whatever, the reference and its reasons for being there are obvious. GFR are exactly the type of broad, obnoxious rock band that the song and the MACHINA concept (barf) are all about

I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Shallowed

03-23-2015, 05:27 PM

What, the words "Lucy in the sky" don't appear in the lyrics of "Lucy in the sky with diamonds"?

Did you not realise that that's the only example of this occurring either? Did you read any of those links in that Google search?

Grox

03-23-2015, 07:12 PM

bill references the beatles in Today - "I wanna turn you on"

dodoz

03-23-2015, 07:20 PM

WILLIAM said he stole the riff of "Quiet" to some band...I don't know who.

Queen ? He said there was some Queen on that album, and it's a bit Brian May-esque...I wouldn't know which song though, if it's Queen at all.

slunken

03-24-2015, 11:31 AM

I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Songs that quote other songs are very common.

And no it's not parody either

slunken

03-24-2015, 11:34 AM

http://www.amiright.com/real/songartist/

Mals Marola

03-24-2015, 03:27 PM

bill references the beatles in Today - "I wanna turn you on"

ok this is ridiculous

might as well say he was paying homage to them when he sang "HELLO, goodbye, YOU KNOW you made us cry" in Shame

not every matching word is a reference or rip off, lol

Grox

03-24-2015, 04:43 PM

ok this is ridiculous

might as well say he was paying homage to them when he sang "HELLO, goodbye, YOU KNOW you made us cry" in Shame

not every matching word is a reference or rip off, lol

melody is similar in both examples, positive the references passed thru bills head when he wrote both today and shame

houseofglass11

03-24-2015, 05:08 PM

WILLIAM said he stole the riff of "Quiet" to some band...I don't know who.

Bill was a big fan of Bad Brains and this song has a riff that is similar (though more complex than "Quiet") and a similar drum intro:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NlEEEVhK9aI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

dreams of glass

03-24-2015, 05:11 PM

Bill was a big fan of Bad Brains and this song has a riff that is similar (though more complex than "Quiet") and a similar drum intro:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NlEEEVhK9aI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

haha, wow, I like the BB song better than Quiet

Shallowed

03-24-2015, 08:42 PM

positive the references passed thru bills head when he wrote both today and shame

No, you're not positive, you've just imagined a scenario and then assumed it must be true.

Eulogy

03-24-2015, 09:17 PM

I'm not buying the parody theory. It's word for word. It's a ripoff.

Are you 12 or just very dim

Jelly Blossom

03-25-2015, 01:14 AM

Are you 12 or just very dim

Is there really a need for this?

Quite frankly the fact that you would even post something like this doesn't even dignify a response.

dreams of glass

03-25-2015, 01:32 AM

Welcome to Netphoria

Jelly Blossom

03-25-2015, 01:50 AM

Welcome to Netphoria

Unfortunately. :-(

dreams of glass

03-31-2015, 01:22 AM

Billy himself said he ripped off the intro to Cherub Rock from By-Tor and the Snow Dog by Rush, listen at the 3:54 mark:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2UU62UcP_BA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>