From the pattern I have seen from the beginning of this project, I gather that beta releases are intended to make the game community driven. Without beta releases for playtesting how can they make the game "made by the community". They release beta, everyone plays and then gives feedback on the changes, more changes are made and then you end up with a finished product.

I too would have liked to see all the army books have new splits to make use of the new rules. Not sure why they did not do that. Hopefully the full book releases will come often enough. When the warriors book is released then we can all see what the new rules and format will be going forward.

I have a feeling that beta was "rushed" out a bit as the community was bitching for it.

Overall though, there are significant changes in the army books I've seen. Even from the rumors I know my rat army will look different.

_________________What is best in life?Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of thier women.

No more auto heavy armour on the characters, but the upgrade is so cheap (10-15pts) it seems odd to even bother separating them.

Mournfang are still Move 8 but can only march 14, which is fine because 16 was far to much.

LEADBELCHERS ARE QUICK TO FIRE. Feel the wrath of my boom sticks.

Ogre Giants Get impacts... only 1 but still... oh and their str dropped to 5... but they can take Iron Fists and Great Weapons... very odd. And the more you hurt it the more attacks it gets. PARRY GIANTS HERE I COME!

Overall Happy with the book and no crazy changes, wished for more armour options on the core but thats just me complaining

Not sure I agree. Ogres, more than pretty much any other army can scrunch together very well. Their units are usually 6 Dwarfs wide, which is impressive considering what they pack into a unit. Should have kept my Ogres.

Yeah, the Hellmaw has an interesting mechanic to be sure. I will be using my Vortex Beast as a Forsaken One first because I really want to try out the Iredeemable units. That and my army has very little infantry and what I do have is quite fast.

There are some things I love about the new book and other things not so much, but I want to try it all in practice before making any real judgements.