I heard of peoplesaying that f2p are losers and only people who payed for the game is awsome but what I found out is there some f2ps who suck and some p2p who suck. My friend( he sighned a contract) sucks a lot, he first went on tf2 and bought the whole uber ubdate everything was uncraftable, when me and him play together he dies horribly then goes rage heavy, he also sucks at trading another friend( He sighned a contract) scammed him off his fancy dress uniform and he thinks a dirty Desert Maruder can get him a Diamond Botkiller minigun. So yeah, there was an f2p in a server he made head shots every time i went out of spawn ( I knew he was f2p cause the sever seperates them) he beat me in every class exept for spy. Please post any comments

Lol, I was way better than a lot of P2P when I was F2P, I became premium recently, so people are quite surprised at my skill and knowledge about the game when they see my backpack only has like 2.66 Refined. I was always on top of the leaderboard and people started raging at me because they hated being killed by a girl with no hats.

Lol, I was way better than a lot of P2P when I was F2P, I became premium recently, so people are quite surprised at my skill and knowledge about the game when they see my backpack only has like 2.66 Refined. I was always on top of the leaderboard and people started raging at me because they hated being killed by a girl with no hats.

- Your friendly Steam pal, Frosty

wait a minet i know you, your the one who was on the "ban the person above you" game.

It all has to do with how skilled someone is, and the only reason Free to Play tend to be less skilled is because anyone with a significant amount of hours will want the additional space to have a good amount of weapons in their backpack. Free to Play or Premium has no direct effect on skill; time and effort does, and the only reason Free to Play tend to lack it is because they themselves are generally newer.

Anyone whining about Free to Play might as well whine about Premiums who don't take the game seriously, anyone who uses ineffective weapons, anyone who doesn't try their hardest and anyone who doesn't coordinate to the maximum, and many Premiums are guilty of one or more of the above actions.

Seriously, there's a point where people just sling insults out pointlessly to damage others, or demean a certain population for no reason; if someone does that I fail to see how their opinion should matter to any intelligent person, much less when all they do is insult or view themselves as superior because they paid fifty cents for a weapon from the store.

I mean i People who are F2P are Crazy and noobs but i guess there fine to me i guess -_- i mean i started to play TF2 day after F2P happend and i mean by that i was paid the game then TF2 Free to Play Started... Then Mounths Every ♥♥♥♥ing person that had F2P end of there name i was ♥♥♥♥ing confused all a sudden this F2P started to say F2PS ARE SO MUSH BETTER.i think thats how F2Ps and P2P started the war ;_;

Valve should create training courses for all of the classes instead of four, and then make those courses mandatory for new players. Then they have to play a certain amount of offline practice before acutally starting.

In my opinion, using "F2P" as an insult is fast getting outdated for the mentioned reason:You don't hafta be F2P to suck.

Likewise, you dond't hafta be P2P to rock.

I've helped four F2Pers recently; one upped my Professor Speks rank 'cause I did such a good job, I gave a Premium upgrade to another, helped a third with achievements so he unlocked some weapons to help him out, and I'm still guiding the fourth to this day. He's getting better.

Valve should create training courses for all of the classes instead of four, and then make those courses mandatory for new players. Then they have to play a certain amount of offline practice before acutally starting.

They should make sure that any player must beat the bot before playing with people. I find most F2P are worse that bot.

They should make sure that any player must beat the bot before playing with people. I find most F2P are worse that bot.

Bots are incredibly easy to demolish; making it required to beat them is useless, because the only thing they have going for them is a ludicrous aim-bot that makes engagements with hitscan weapons difficult on higher difficulties. Heck, Demomen don't even use their Stickies, unlocks aren't available for bots, many weapon tactics such as Rocket Jumping aren't used...

Forcing them to play against bots is a poor strategy; a mandatory tutorial for each class is one thing, but making them fight bots is a bad idea. Once you start to get used to how bots function, it becomes harder to adjust to how random players can be; Spies, in particular, are easily rooted out by players, but are annoying for bots to root out because of how stupid they are.