By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!!

By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!!Tye-Dye pt2

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!!

Oh come on. They are extremely cr@p but definitely better than the Skates.

[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!![/p][/quote]Oh come on. They are extremely cr@p but definitely better than the Skates.Clever Dick

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!!

Oh come on. They are extremely cr@p but definitely better than the Skates.

Fair point CD and I do stand corrected, on reflection there is nothing more shlte than that charity thieving rabble.

[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!![/p][/quote]Oh come on. They are extremely cr@p but definitely better than the Skates.[/p][/quote]Fair point CD and I do stand corrected, on reflection there is nothing more shlte than that charity thieving rabble.Tye-Dye pt2

Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations

Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relationsupwherewebelong

I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.

With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.

Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.

I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.
With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.
Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.Confucious

I've witnessed a game between two Spanish teams, of this level, and it is no better than non league football in the UK, and not the top leagues either.

As said above, you can only beat what is put in front of you and we did.

The real work and first real test of progress comes, when we get to Austria.

I'd have been disappointed, had we scored fewer than 8, TBH.
I've witnessed a game between two Spanish teams, of this level, and it is no better than non league football in the UK, and not the top leagues either.
As said above, you can only beat what is put in front of you and we did.
The real work and first real test of progress comes, when we get to Austria.Costa Baz

Can't blame the club it was instant on Twitter. Racing back to hotel to get it all on official site.
The club are doing really well with modern technology and keeping everyone informed up to the second!
Join Twitter - you never know you may learn something!! :-)

Can't blame the club it was instant on Twitter. Racing back to hotel to get it all on official site.
The club are doing really well with modern technology and keeping everyone informed up to the second!
Join Twitter - you never know you may learn something!! :-)St.Yorkie

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The official site has a link to it's twitter account where there was a commentary.
This was arranged by the clubs media department and is available free of charge.
Too easy to knock the club, it only takes a few minutes to locate this info.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The official site has a link to it's twitter account where there was a commentary.
This was arranged by the clubs media department and is available free of charge.
Too easy to knock the club, it only takes a few minutes to locate this info.dadofmy3sons

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.Costa Baz

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.upwherewebelong

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

How do the pigeons get back here that quick?

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]How do the pigeons get back here that quick?Confucious

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.OSPREYSAINT

Guly scored a hat trick
Our first in the new shirt
All you Guly haters
Your gonna be eating dirt

When you see him playing
Alongside all the rest
The time will come for you to see
That Guly is the best

Will he be a starter
Or be an impact sub
We'll play our new formation wth Guly at the hub

Guly scored a hat trick
Our first in the new shirt
All you Guly haters
Your gonna be eating dirt
When you see him playing
Alongside all the rest
The time will come for you to see
That Guly is the best
Will he be a starter
Or be an impact sub
We'll play our new formation wth Guly at the hubSaintsayer II

it is a funny post, although Lambert hasn't scored many in recent games. Shows why we need a new striker to A) relieve pressure b) be another avenue for goals as Lambert does go through spells where he doesn't score. It is the only aspect of his game that I feel he could improve on which is consistency

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]it is a funny post, although Lambert hasn't scored many in recent games. Shows why we need a new striker to A) relieve pressure b) be another avenue for goals as Lambert does go through spells where he doesn't score. It is the only aspect of his game that I feel he could improve on which is consistencyupwherewebelong

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

How do the pigeons get back here that quick?

Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.

[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]How do the pigeons get back here that quick?[/p][/quote]Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.st1halo

You have to be able to find at least some humour in everything to get through this life. My missus even lets me giggle during sex - so long as I'm not pointing when I do it.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]You have to be able to find at least some humour in everything to get through this life. My missus even lets me giggle during sex - so long as I'm not pointing when I do it.Confucious

On the official site.
PUBLISHED
"23:30 18th July 2013
by Jim Lucas in Peralada
The Saints media team are with the squad for their training camps in Spain and Austria, and they will be blogging throughout the trip to fill you in on all the behind-the-scenes goings on."

Like the PR department of most Premier league clubs, ours are with the team.
How many Echo journalists went out there?

On the official site.
PUBLISHED
"23:30 18th July 2013
by Jim Lucas in Peralada
The Saints media team are with the squad for their training camps in Spain and Austria, and they will be blogging throughout the trip to fill you in on all the behind-the-scenes goings on."
Like the PR department of most Premier league clubs, ours are with the team.
How many Echo journalists went out there?dadofmy3sons

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.

No you clearly weren't wasting your time - and in my opinion you should relax and don't get so frustrated and angry when people criticise your beloved club which in your eyes can do no wrong. I always go to the OS first as when we played Llagostera the OS had a live feed on the site and a match report very soon after the game so I was puzzled the same didn't happen today. As I don't really use Twitter I had no idea they were focussing on that today. But fair play if the club were using Twitter.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.[/p][/quote]No you clearly weren't wasting your time - and in my opinion you should relax and don't get so frustrated and angry when people criticise your beloved club which in your eyes can do no wrong. I always go to the OS first as when we played Llagostera the OS had a live feed on the site and a match report very soon after the game so I was puzzled the same didn't happen today. As I don't really use Twitter I had no idea they were focussing on that today. But fair play if the club were using Twitter.upwherewebelong

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

How do the pigeons get back here that quick?

Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.

Ah right mate - ta.

I always presumed there were German pigeons which flew up to intercept our flyboys.

The Chinese People's Army use parrots which, if they get lost, can ask the way.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]How do the pigeons get back here that quick?[/p][/quote]Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.[/p][/quote]Ah right mate - ta.
I always presumed there were German pigeons which flew up to intercept our flyboys.
The Chinese People's Army use parrots which, if they get lost, can ask the way.Confucious

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

How do the pigeons get back here that quick?

Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.

Ah right mate - ta.

I always presumed there were German pigeons which flew up to intercept our flyboys.

The Chinese People's Army use parrots which, if they get lost, can ask the way.

They must be female parrots. No male ones would ask directions

[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]How do the pigeons get back here that quick?[/p][/quote]Come on Connie, keep up. They can obviously make good time now they don't have the d4mn jerries shooting at 'em.[/p][/quote]Ah right mate - ta.
I always presumed there were German pigeons which flew up to intercept our flyboys.
The Chinese People's Army use parrots which, if they get lost, can ask the way.[/p][/quote]They must be female parrots. No male ones would ask directionsst1halo

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

if you bothered to read the entire preview on the official site you'd have known the commentary was being live updated via the saints twitter account, its an open page so no need to register..

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]if you bothered to read the entire preview on the official site you'd have known the commentary was being live updated via the saints twitter account, its an open page so no need to register..Ohfancythat

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::business-guru

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .slugger

nice to see us get a few goals today, yes it was only a training game against a side that we should expect to beat but scoring goals can become a `habit` for players so its good to see. the real test starts in Austria where we play some quality opposition, not too worried if we lose the games as MP will be looking at other things anyway.

nice to see us get a few goals today, yes it was only a training game against a side that we should expect to beat but scoring goals can become a `habit` for players so its good to see. the real test starts in Austria where we play some quality opposition, not too worried if we lose the games as MP will be looking at other things anyway.el caballo santos101

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....business-guru

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .slugger

Some of u lot need to get a grip! 8-0 against a league 2 team in spain in a friendly and still moaning! So I guess u expect us to beat teams like Shrewsbury 12-0 in Carling cup. Do teams like Man Utd beat league 2 teams 8-0 in competitions???

Some of u lot need to get a grip! 8-0 against a league 2 team in spain in a friendly and still moaning! So I guess u expect us to beat teams like Shrewsbury 12-0 in Carling cup. Do teams like Man Utd beat league 2 teams 8-0 in competitions???nuttysaint

You have to be able to find at least some humour in everything to get through this life. My missus even lets me giggle during sex - so long as I'm not pointing when I do it.

Is tha a long giggle or a short one?

[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]You have to be able to find at least some humour in everything to get through this life. My missus even lets me giggle during sex - so long as I'm not pointing when I do it.[/p][/quote]Is tha a long giggle or a short one?DisplacedFan

nuttysaint wrote:
Some of u lot need to get a grip! 8-0 against a league 2 team in spain in a friendly and still moaning! So I guess u expect us to beat teams like Shrewsbury 12-0 in Carling cup. Do teams like Man Utd beat league 2 teams 8-0 in competitions???

In a nutshell .

[quote][p][bold]nuttysaint[/bold] wrote:
Some of u lot need to get a grip! 8-0 against a league 2 team in spain in a friendly and still moaning! So I guess u expect us to beat teams like Shrewsbury 12-0 in Carling cup. Do teams like Man Utd beat league 2 teams 8-0 in competitions???[/p][/quote]In a nutshell .slugger

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .[/p][/quote]I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...business-guru

christ it must soon be the end of the world guly the striker scores 3 knock me over with a feather........... or have i had to many sherbets well done all saints fan on tour and guly ............

christ it must soon be the end of the world guly the striker scores 3 knock me over with a feather........... or have i had to many sherbets well done all saints fan on tour and guly ............insane saint

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

I like the sound of that last sentence........

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]I like the sound of that last sentence........OSPREYSAINT

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.

We have been saying it for a long time, they don't appear to appreciate our thirst for anything Saints, instant results from the other teams, U18's and U21's these are important to me. Quicker on line updates are needed on all games, even friendlies, I hate twitter because for some reason people feel the need to continuously retweet old news which clogs the site up with dross, what is that all about? If it is the quickest way to get the news I have to tolerate it.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.[/p][/quote]We have been saying it for a long time, they don't appear to appreciate our thirst for anything Saints, instant results from the other teams, U18's and U21's these are important to me. Quicker on line updates are needed on all games, even friendlies, I hate twitter because for some reason people feel the need to continuously retweet old news which clogs the site up with dross, what is that all about? If it is the quickest way to get the news I have to tolerate it.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...

Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said !

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .[/p][/quote]I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...[/p][/quote]Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said !slugger

Confucious wrote:
I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.

With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.

Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.

Don't forget the additional advantage offered by the new shirt, a spare hankie on each sleeve!

[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.
With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.
Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the additional advantage offered by the new shirt, a spare hankie on each sleeve!miltonarcher

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

The club had updates on twitter.

ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.

If you don't want to use Twitter, then like tonight, you may miss out.

I don't normally use it, but did tonight, so that I might keep up to date.

I would suggest you need better PR.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]The club had updates on twitter.[/p][/quote]ok, so what they had updates on twitter, what if people don't or won't use twitter ? then surely it wouldn't take to long to put the report on the official site. I stand by my comment that we need a better pr department.[/p][/quote]If you don't want to use Twitter, then like tonight, you may miss out.
I don't normally use it, but did tonight, so that I might keep up to date.
I would suggest you need better PR.Costa Baz

upwherewebelong wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public &amp; media relations

Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.

No you clearly weren't wasting your time - and in my opinion you should relax and don't get so frustrated and angry when people criticise your beloved club which in your eyes can do no wrong. I always go to the OS first as when we played Llagostera the OS had a live feed on the site and a match report very soon after the game so I was puzzled the same didn't happen today. As I don't really use Twitter I had no idea they were focussing on that today. But fair play if the club were using Twitter.

I suspect if the opposition had been more important there would have been coverage, I still feel the PR department are out of touch when it comes to informing us on the happenings at St. Marys, it is one of few areas where I am not comfortable with our progress to higher and better things, they need us on board, not a remote nuisance to be tolerated coz they cough up some loot.

[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote:
Daily Echo - thank you for the report you are doing better than the official site which has nothing about the game at all. The club really does need to improve its publicity and public & media relations[/p][/quote]Was I wasting my time putting updates on the other thread? If I can get updates, anyone can, it's not rocket science.[/p][/quote]No you clearly weren't wasting your time - and in my opinion you should relax and don't get so frustrated and angry when people criticise your beloved club which in your eyes can do no wrong. I always go to the OS first as when we played Llagostera the OS had a live feed on the site and a match report very soon after the game so I was puzzled the same didn't happen today. As I don't really use Twitter I had no idea they were focussing on that today. But fair play if the club were using Twitter.[/p][/quote]I suspect if the opposition had been more important there would have been coverage, I still feel the PR department are out of touch when it comes to informing us on the happenings at St. Marys, it is one of few areas where I am not comfortable with our progress to higher and better things, they need us on board, not a remote nuisance to be tolerated coz they cough up some loot.OSPREYSAINT

Confucious wrote:
I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.

With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.

Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.

Don't forget the additional advantage offered by the new shirt, a spare hankie on each sleeve!

Don't knock the shirts, two games two wins, that's 100% success rate.

[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote:
I can see Mauricio's faith in Guly paying off big time this season as he shows his class, becomes a Saints legend and makes all the naysayers eat their words and their boos.
With the brilliant new shirt (only £50 but worth £200) and Guly's name on the back I am really going to look the business in the Kingsland.
Pure gold - just like my terrific new shirt badge.[/p][/quote]Don't forget the additional advantage offered by the new shirt, a spare hankie on each sleeve![/p][/quote]Don't knock the shirts, two games two wins, that's 100% success rate.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...

Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said !

and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .[/p][/quote]I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...[/p][/quote]Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said ![/p][/quote]and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)business-guru

Guly is a skilful player, no doubt about it, but its his total game which is the problem. It's no good battling hard to win the ball if all you are going to do is pass it straight back to the opposition. Too many times he has done this and we won't get away with it in the PL. Sort that problem out and he can add to the squad. Otherwise he is a liability.

As for 8-nil, lower league sides may be easier and know that they are likely to get beat, but not many of them let a team put 8 past them. Well done to the two sides in each half. Glad you're taking the preparation seriously.

Guly is a skilful player, no doubt about it, but its his total game which is the problem. It's no good battling hard to win the ball if all you are going to do is pass it straight back to the opposition. Too many times he has done this and we won't get away with it in the PL. Sort that problem out and he can add to the squad. Otherwise he is a liability.
As for 8-nil, lower league sides may be easier and know that they are likely to get beat, but not many of them let a team put 8 past them. Well done to the two sides in each half. Glad you're taking the preparation seriously.Chris1991

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...

Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said !

and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)

In all honesty , I think last years home shirt was our best yet , this years will grow on me .

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .[/p][/quote]I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...[/p][/quote]Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said ![/p][/quote]and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)[/p][/quote]In all honesty , I think last years home shirt was our best yet , this years will grow on me .slugger

Chris1991 wrote:
Guly is a skilful player, no doubt about it, but its his total game which is the problem. It's no good battling hard to win the ball if all you are going to do is pass it straight back to the opposition. Too many times he has done this and we won't get away with it in the PL. Sort that problem out and he can add to the squad. Otherwise he is a liability.

As for 8-nil, lower league sides may be easier and know that they are likely to get beat, but not many of them let a team put 8 past them. Well done to the two sides in each half. Glad you're taking the preparation seriously.

I saw two of his games for cesena and he was a different player... he had less responsibility to wall-pass, give and go and play with his back to goal and more opportunity to pull off players on wide runs and create havoc. Part of the problem was the hit-n-rush off div1/champ but also the general pace of the game is much different. I still think he can be an asset for us and with my new bestest mate Wanyama steaming up the middle , maybe MP will use Guly in a role he was more suited to back in his Cesena days....

[quote][p][bold]Chris1991[/bold] wrote:
Guly is a skilful player, no doubt about it, but its his total game which is the problem. It's no good battling hard to win the ball if all you are going to do is pass it straight back to the opposition. Too many times he has done this and we won't get away with it in the PL. Sort that problem out and he can add to the squad. Otherwise he is a liability.
As for 8-nil, lower league sides may be easier and know that they are likely to get beat, but not many of them let a team put 8 past them. Well done to the two sides in each half. Glad you're taking the preparation seriously.[/p][/quote]I saw two of his games for cesena and he was a different player... he had less responsibility to wall-pass, give and go and play with his back to goal and more opportunity to pull off players on wide runs and create havoc. Part of the problem was the hit-n-rush off div1/champ but also the general pace of the game is much different. I still think he can be an asset for us and with my new bestest mate Wanyama steaming up the middle , maybe MP will use Guly in a role he was more suited to back in his Cesena days....business-guru

slugger wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?

don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::

Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did &quot;wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .

loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....

I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .

I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...

Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said !

and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)

In all honesty , I think last years home shirt was our best yet , this years will grow on me .

while we are being honest I thought last years home shirt was dire when it was released... now I think it is a classic. The best shirt for years.... I may mellow over the new home shirt but I really just keep thinking Arsenal when I see it. I reckon the 3rd shirt will be a hit , the training kit will sell by the bucket loads and overall Adidas will come up trumps.... I have seen the generic away shirt in the flash and its ok, would not buy it but its ok.... but I will defo get the training shirt for sloping around in at home,,,

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Nice one Saints , and in particular Guly ..... I for one support our whole team ...... Are 3 consecutive managers wrong ?[/p][/quote]don't get carried away... this was a training match... Nigel's use of Guly was suspect, so not wrong as you put it but he looked a round peg in a square hole too often. MP may get much more out of him,,,, but not even the mighty Guly will read too much into 3 goals against allotment farmers and sheep herders. I do have a feeling we will see more of our lanky and talented friend this coming season tho. Let the Guru bashing begin ::::::::::::[/p][/quote]Sorry , I cannot see the relevance of your reply , where did "wrong as you put it" appear in my comment ......... And Guly was playing along all of our other players and happened to be the one who got a hat-trick in 9 minutes , my comment was about my theory (not fact) that 3 consecutive managers probably (certainly) know twice as much as any of us .[/p][/quote]loads of people saw Guly play badly under Nigel, coming on late , too cold, not enough time to get into games... He was not necessarily "wrong" or "right" about Guly, but many saw him not getting the best out of him... You state the obvious in one sense, professional managers know more than "any of us" ,, except obviously mark Hughes, and about 50 others who have been sacked for not spotting the obvious that 1000s of fans already knew. Its called "wood for the trees" syndrome. Guly has been a "marmite" player true, but those that booed him are just ignorant about the game. He often looked like he needed better service and players around him and if he continues to look like that this season, then he may well just be one of those "luxury" players.... I think not.... I think he will play a bigger role this season....[/p][/quote]I agree mostly with this..... except that I doubt very much that 3 consecutive premiership managers "fail to see the wood for the trees" ..... It doesn't make any sense in my view .[/p][/quote]I don't think 3 do/did... Pards had him sussed, MP probably does... I just thought Nigel did not know what to do with him and I got the feeling he was never the player he should have been during that period. I was often torn watching him in the championship season, his football skills were sublime and his timing and off-the-ball play were second to none but I just could not see any fruits from the training ground and I got the feeling Guly was given too much freedom and not enough framework to work in.... I also heard NA interviewed on sky and he was asked about Guly and AL some of his comments I thought were odd.... still water under the bridge... I think Guly will feature more this season and hope the brain dead that booed him have since found another club to plague...[/p][/quote]Well , at least we agree on one thing , well said ![/p][/quote]and we both like the training kit dont we !? ;0)[/p][/quote]In all honesty , I think last years home shirt was our best yet , this years will grow on me .[/p][/quote]while we are being honest I thought last years home shirt was dire when it was released... now I think it is a classic. The best shirt for years.... I may mellow over the new home shirt but I really just keep thinking Arsenal when I see it. I reckon the 3rd shirt will be a hit , the training kit will sell by the bucket loads and overall Adidas will come up trumps.... I have seen the generic away shirt in the flash and its ok, would not buy it but its ok.... but I will defo get the training shirt for sloping around in at home,,,business-guru

Clever Dick wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly!

woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..

[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly![/p][/quote]woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..FindAndDestroy

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..FindAndDestroy

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....

[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..[/p][/quote]he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....business-guru

Clever Dick wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly!

woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..

it might have been something more sarcastic than what he wrote here, look past what is written an see the joke that's there

[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly![/p][/quote]woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..[/p][/quote]it might have been something more sarcastic than what he wrote here, look past what is written an see the joke that's thereel caballo santos101

A great start to the warm up to the new campaign. I'd still like to see one more signing, someone who brings goals from the middle, or wide or up top. Think that would strengthen us more than any other position might. Looking back on great teams they had lots of players getting on the score sheet as opposed to good teams that relied too much on one or two players scoring.

Although obviously tonight they all had a go!

A great start to the warm up to the new campaign. I'd still like to see one more signing, someone who brings goals from the middle, or wide or up top. Think that would strengthen us more than any other position might. Looking back on great teams they had lots of players getting on the score sheet as opposed to good teams that relied too much on one or two players scoring.
Although obviously tonight they all had a go!Seedhouse the Unrepentant

feet on the ground I recall a bit of advice from Pards in the early days.. No point in lining up easy games to thrash hapless opposition.. you really learn nothing from that sort of game.
This is a 4th div outfit of part timers but the lads had fun apparently played at decent pace and better oppos are on the way.. all good in my book.

Laugh though as our U21s just beat Toons 2-0

Also laugh as the os has a pic of a smiling happy looking Gaston arriving at training camp in Spain.

COYR

feet on the ground I recall a bit of advice from Pards in the early days.. No point in lining up easy games to thrash hapless opposition.. you really learn nothing from that sort of game.
This is a 4th div outfit of part timers but the lads had fun apparently played at decent pace and better oppos are on the way.. all good in my book.
Laugh though as our U21s just beat Toons 2-0
Also laugh as the os has a pic of a smiling happy looking Gaston arriving at training camp in Spain.
COYRTirau Dan

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....

That's a relief!!!n lol

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..[/p][/quote]he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....[/p][/quote]That's a relief!!!n lolFindAndDestroy

Clever Dick wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly!

woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..

it might have been something more sarcastic than what he wrote here, look past what is written an see the joke that's there

oh, i see...well in that case i blame the heat, anyone going down Bournemouth beach? i would appreciate a lift... i need cooling

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly![/p][/quote]woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..[/p][/quote]it might have been something more sarcastic than what he wrote here, look past what is written an see the joke that's there[/p][/quote]oh, i see...well in that case i blame the heat, anyone going down Bournemouth beach? i would appreciate a lift... i need coolingFindAndDestroy

I know Spanish football well after 12 years in the country, Palamos is in Catalonia, boasts a population of 15,000. What is the point in friendlies like this. Pick 11 blokes in a park and you'll get the same level of competition. Do Prado is irrelevant, he will play no part in the future of the club. Does anybody know a right back by the way.

I know Spanish football well after 12 years in the country, Palamos is in Catalonia, boasts a population of 15,000. What is the point in friendlies like this. Pick 11 blokes in a park and you'll get the same level of competition. Do Prado is irrelevant, he will play no part in the future of the club. Does anybody know a right back by the way.Crispinmumbles

Que te follen! Good reply though you made us all laugh here...Demasiadas fiestas estamos hoy de tranquileo en casa...and the liver and wallets hurting ...and its not even july yet! adios

Que te follen! Good reply though you made us all laugh here...Demasiadas fiestas estamos hoy de tranquileo en casa...and the liver and wallets hurting ...and its not even july yet! adiospompey in spain

pompey in spain wrote:
Que te follen! Good reply though you made us all laugh here...Demasiadas fiestas estamos hoy de tranquileo en casa...and the liver and wallets hurting ...and its not even july yet! adios

Tye-Dye pt2 wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!!

Look at how bradford turned over arsenal last year, I know bradford are better than palamos but 8-0 against any team is a very good result, you still have to play very well.

[quote][p][bold]Tye-Dye pt2[/bold] wrote:
By all accounts fantastic displays first and second half, but to be fair the opposition would be akin to playing the skates...i.e extremely cr@p! Much harder opposition in Austria to come but a great start, imagine the scenario if Banega joins? UTMS!!!![/p][/quote]Look at how bradford turned over arsenal last year, I know bradford are better than palamos but 8-0 against any team is a very good result, you still have to play very well.CharlieGeorgesMissingFinger

Clever Dick wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly!

woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..

Sarcasm at work again.

[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly![/p][/quote]woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..[/p][/quote]Sarcasm at work again.DisplacedFan

Guly is an enigma. Forget the goals in this game. Wasn't it in the championship he scored like 10 goals in the early part of the season? Then didn't he get injured or something? and everything has gone wrong since.
Never understood the nastiness towards Guly, from a section of fans, who turn on a player when what he needs is for them to get behind him.
I agree he is frustrating at times and there are times when he has been brilliant.
Just as we have had fans on here castigating Chelsea fans for their treatment of Benitez, some of those fans sit on the terraces and do the same to Guly and Fox. Its like scoring an own goal, cos you destroy a player's confidence.
Sure we all write on here and have our moans and groans about players but when Saturday comes and those players step on the pitch we should back them 100%.

No I am not predicting him to be a revelation this season but he is still a good player to have in the squad.
The player deserves a little more respect than he gets. Whilst some treat him as a joke, his ten goals are part of the reason we are in the premiership.
Now you can blame that on Guly

Guly is an enigma. Forget the goals in this game. Wasn't it in the championship he scored like 10 goals in the early part of the season? Then didn't he get injured or something? and everything has gone wrong since.
Never understood the nastiness towards Guly, from a section of fans, who turn on a player when what he needs is for them to get behind him.
I agree he is frustrating at times and there are times when he has been brilliant.
Just as we have had fans on here castigating Chelsea fans for their treatment of Benitez, some of those fans sit on the terraces and do the same to Guly and Fox. Its like scoring an own goal, cos you destroy a player's confidence.
Sure we all write on here and have our moans and groans about players but when Saturday comes and those players step on the pitch we should back them 100%.
No I am not predicting him to be a revelation this season but he is still a good player to have in the squad.
The player deserves a little more respect than he gets. Whilst some treat him as a joke, his ten goals are part of the reason we are in the premiership.
Now you can blame that on Gulymilton road

pompey in spain wrote:
good god! are you lot proud of that? btw have you seen our new white away strip???? classy init...proper shirt...proper fans ...proper club...nuff said

Yes, No, not interested and finally sssshhhh

[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote:
good god! are you lot proud of that? btw have you seen our new white away strip???? classy init...proper shirt...proper fans ...proper club...nuff said[/p][/quote]Yes, No, not interested and finally sssshhhhSee You When The Fog Clears

Clever Dick wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly!

woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..

Hee hee. I see the sense of humour bypass operation went well..

[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
That's just typical of Guly. We should have won that game 10-0 and he should have had 5. I definitely blame Guly![/p][/quote]woow, 8-0 still not enough for you?and despite his 3 goals, you still blame him...your expectation is beyond comprehension mate, i wonder what you would have said if we had lost..[/p][/quote]Hee hee. I see the sense of humour bypass operation went well..Clever Dick

Good so Guly proved that he is capable of putting in a great performance again.
I want to see much more consistency from him before I get off his back.

He's got the talent, I just want to see it every time he gets on the pitch, not one match in four.

Good so Guly proved that he is capable of putting in a great performance again.
I want to see much more consistency from him before I get off his back.
He's got the talent, I just want to see it every time he gets on the pitch, not one match in four.Stroppy_gramps

Just watched the highlights on Saints Player. Interviews with Morgan and Jordan Turnbull too. Gallery of photos. Twitter updates during the game. Photo of Gaston arriving at hotel too. No pleasing some people. Good coverage in my opinion. Well done to the PR Team!

Just watched the highlights on Saints Player. Interviews with Morgan and Jordan Turnbull too. Gallery of photos. Twitter updates during the game. Photo of Gaston arriving at hotel too. No pleasing some people. Good coverage in my opinion. Well done to the PR Team!Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Good so Guly proved that he is capable of putting in a great performance again.
I want to see much more consistency from him before I get off his back.

He's got the talent, I just want to see it every time he gets on the pitch, not one match in four.

I '' WOULD LOVE '' (In Kevin Keegan Stiley) Guly to have a great season to stuff a rather large middle finger up the Boo Boy !! ............

[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote:
Good so Guly proved that he is capable of putting in a great performance again.
I want to see much more consistency from him before I get off his back.
He's got the talent, I just want to see it every time he gets on the pitch, not one match in four.[/p][/quote]I '' WOULD LOVE '' (In Kevin Keegan Stiley) Guly to have a great season to stuff a rather large middle finger up the Boo Boy !! ............Buddy SFC

It was said with tongue firmly in cheek, it is irony, taking the mick out of the constant moaners on here, never, ever, take me seriously, it can damage your health.

[quote][p][bold]marc281[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous comment[/p][/quote]It was said with tongue firmly in cheek, it is irony, taking the mick out of the constant moaners on here, never, ever, take me seriously, it can damage your health.OSPREYSAINT

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Just watched the highlights on Saints Player. Interviews with Morgan and Jordan Turnbull too. Gallery of photos. Twitter updates during the game. Photo of Gaston arriving at hotel too. No pleasing some people. Good coverage in my opinion. Well done to the PR Team!

Nice interview with Guly on OS too. He makes some interesting comments. He admits he made some mistakes and thanks the players for supporting him. We need to support him too this season not get on his back so bl00dy quick!

I'm looking forward to being better this year, because last year I made some mistakes so I apologise to everyone.

"This year is going to be very important for me and for the Club. I'm looking forward to the season very much.

"I want to show everyone what I can do for the team and for Southampton Football Club so I am working hard. It's going to be a very interesting year for us.

[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
Just watched the highlights on Saints Player. Interviews with Morgan and Jordan Turnbull too. Gallery of photos. Twitter updates during the game. Photo of Gaston arriving at hotel too. No pleasing some people. Good coverage in my opinion. Well done to the PR Team![/p][/quote]Nice interview with Guly on OS too. He makes some interesting comments. He admits he made some mistakes and thanks the players for supporting him. We need to support him too this season not get on his back so bl00dy quick!
I'm looking forward to being better this year, because last year I made some mistakes so I apologise to everyone.
"This year is going to be very important for me and for the Club. I'm looking forward to the season very much.
"I want to show everyone what I can do for the team and for Southampton Football Club so I am working hard. It's going to be a very interesting year for us.Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....

Good for you, now try it yourself!

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..[/p][/quote]he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....[/p][/quote]Good for you, now try it yourself!OSPREYSAINT

Typical ugly can score in friendly but any pressure and we all know what happens.frustrating as he can look quite good in the middle of the pitch but something just goes missing when he gets near goal. Although nice finish for the own goal against the gunners leaving him on minus one for last season !

Typical ugly can score in friendly but any pressure and we all know what happens.frustrating as he can look quite good in the middle of the pitch but something just goes missing when he gets near goal. Although nice finish for the own goal against the gunners leaving him on minus one for last season !wellow saint

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?

inter may of tabled a 12m bid?

He arrived at team hotel yesterday. Photo on Saints twitter account

[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?
inter may of tabled a 12m bid?[/p][/quote]He arrived at team hotel yesterday. Photo on Saints twitter accountCpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

Interesting rumours that contact has been made re Banega again. Then Banega is quoted :

“I am grateful that I have had so much affection, so many chances and it is time to return it in style on the pitch,” Banega told VCFPlay, his club's official TV channel.

“I am proud to be a part of Valencia. I have spent a while here, I know the place very well and it really leaves a mark on you.

“There’s a style, it marks you for life. You become one of them.

“I face this season with the same enthusiasm and ambition as previous ones. I am proud to be one of the oldest here at 25.

“With the squad that we have here, we deserve to win a title.”

He doesn't actually say he is staying but, its close to it. Would love him to come to Saints but looking unlikely. I know people say we have enough midfielders but this guy can play upfront or attacking midfield too. He is genuine quality and would suit the way Poch wants us to play.

Interesting rumours that contact has been made re Banega again. Then Banega is quoted :
“I am grateful that I have had so much affection, so many chances and it is time to return it in style on the pitch,” Banega told VCFPlay, his club's official TV channel.
“I am proud to be a part of Valencia. I have spent a while here, I know the place very well and it really leaves a mark on you.
“There’s a style, it marks you for life. You become one of them.
“I face this season with the same enthusiasm and ambition as previous ones. I am proud to be one of the oldest here at 25.
“With the squad that we have here, we deserve to win a title.”
He doesn't actually say he is staying but, its close to it. Would love him to come to Saints but looking unlikely. I know people say we have enough midfielders but this guy can play upfront or attacking midfield too. He is genuine quality and would suit the way Poch wants us to play.Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

last word should be "sites", sorry.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]last word should be "sites", sorry.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

last word should be &quot;sites", sorry.

Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]last word should be "sites", sorry.[/p][/quote]Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

last word should be &quot;sites", sorry.

Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)

Oy, oy oy, and now you're accusing him of being overweight!

[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]last word should be "sites", sorry.[/p][/quote]Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)[/p][/quote]Oy, oy oy, and now you're accusing him of being overweight!Rising_Son

I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to BrazilChunky62

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?

inter may of tabled a 12m bid?

Gaston joined he squad yesterday, but it was too late for him to play the game.

[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?
inter may of tabled a 12m bid?[/p][/quote]Gaston joined he squad yesterday, but it was too late for him to play the game.Baddesley Bill

Saint 2701 wrote:
Guly will be a big player for us this season, mark my words.

He's a confidence player and this hattrick would have done him a world of good.

Ole ole ole ole, guly, guly.

Was Guly wearing the captains armband ?

[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote:
Guly will be a big player for us this season, mark my words.
He's a confidence player and this hattrick would have done him a world of good.
Ole ole ole ole, guly, guly.[/p][/quote]Was Guly wearing the captains armband ?Stnana

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

Even worse than Chala, Bliedelis, Forecast and Pulis?

[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]Even worse than Chala, Bliedelis, Forecast and Pulis?Rising_Son

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

Even worse than Chala, Bliedelis, Forecast and Pulis?

Blimey, I've been watching saints for 45 years too. It's amazing how people see things differently.

[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]Even worse than Chala, Bliedelis, Forecast and Pulis?[/p][/quote]Blimey, I've been watching saints for 45 years too. It's amazing how people see things differently.Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

Is that the same Fonte that the fans voted player of the season a couple of years back?

[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]Is that the same Fonte that the fans voted player of the season a couple of years back?Seedhouse the Unrepentant

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]nah nah nah nah nah you smell! (sticks tongue out and pulls funny face)
;0)el caballo santos101

so Guly scores a hatrick dons the armband and the fans actully did what the song sez and invaded the pitch when guly scored!! Had a smoke last night and when i read Guly had scored a hatrick i rang my dealer up and asked wtf was in this stuff!! great result lads and well done guly no blame for this one sir!!

so Guly scores a hatrick dons the armband and the fans actully did what the song sez and invaded the pitch when guly scored!! Had a smoke last night and when i read Guly had scored a hatrick i rang my dealer up and asked wtf was in this stuff!! great result lads and well done guly no blame for this one sir!!Northam Block 40

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STIDst1halo

Saint 2701 wrote:
Guly will be a big player for us this season, mark my words.

He's a confidence player and this hattrick would have done him a world of good.

Ole ole ole ole, guly, guly.

Yep, 3 goals in nine minutes is impressive. Especially considering he only had ten mnutes in which to do it before the half time break was over and the teams came back out.

Lol.
Lmao
pmsl
:-)
(just in case)

STID

[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote:
Guly will be a big player for us this season, mark my words.
He's a confidence player and this hattrick would have done him a world of good.
Ole ole ole ole, guly, guly.[/p][/quote]Yep, 3 goals in nine minutes is impressive. Especially considering he only had ten mnutes in which to do it before the half time break was over and the teams came back out.
Lol.
Lmao
pmsl
:-)
(just in case)
STIDst1halo

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals

If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.

[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals
If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.John Shuttleworth

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

See what I mean.
Where would we be without humour like this?

STID

[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]See what I mean.
Where would we be without humour like this?
STIDst1halo

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0)

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ]business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like

The new shirt is selling worse than last year's

NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations

Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players

And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"

Keep squealing like a pig, boy!

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like
The new shirt is selling worse than last year's
NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations
Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players
And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"
Keep squealing like a pig, boy!John Shuttleworth

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like

The new shirt is selling worse than last year's

NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations

Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players

And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"

Keep squealing like a pig, boy!

knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....

[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like
The new shirt is selling worse than last year's
NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations
Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players
And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"
Keep squealing like a pig, boy![/p][/quote]knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....business-guru

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals

If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But &quot;2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.

I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?

[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals
If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.[/p][/quote]I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?business-guru

Northam Block 40 wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....

It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.

[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....[/p][/quote]It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.business-guru

Northam Block 40 wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....

It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.

oh for sure completely agree just wish good old woy could see Lambo for the complete forward he is!!

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....[/p][/quote]It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.[/p][/quote]oh for sure completely agree just wish good old woy could see Lambo for the complete forward he is!!Northam Block 40

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals

If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But &quot;2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.

I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?

You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.

See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals
If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.[/p][/quote]I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?[/p][/quote]You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.
See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.John Shuttleworth

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STIDst1halo

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.business-guru

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals

If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But &quot;2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.

I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?

You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.

See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.

you are just a cut-n-paste kn0b. well bravo... you have worked out how to use a few keys on a computer... now all you have to do is learn how to do it correctly LOL.....

[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals
If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.[/p][/quote]I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?[/p][/quote]You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.
See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.[/p][/quote]you are just a cut-n-paste kn0b. well bravo... you have worked out how to use a few keys on a computer... now all you have to do is learn how to do it correctly LOL.....business-guru

Northam Block 40 wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....

It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.

oh for sure completely agree just wish good old woy could see Lambo for the complete forward he is!!

when woy was in charge of Switzerland he ignored one the countries highest goal scorers and also one of their most creative midfielders... he has a track record of being blinkered at a national level. The England set up is rubbish anyway....At times its as if the red tops pick the team....

[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....[/p][/quote]It ok,, Shuttlecock probably has him down for 15 goals this season already !! LOL !! seriously though, kn0bs aside, Sir Rickie's contribution moved away from goal scoring to much much more.... It was a shame that others did not step up to the plate and give us more than a few points form the last 18, but I am sure that will be fixed.[/p][/quote]oh for sure completely agree just wish good old woy could see Lambo for the complete forward he is!![/p][/quote]when woy was in charge of Switzerland he ignored one the countries highest goal scorers and also one of their most creative midfielders... he has a track record of being blinkered at a national level. The England set up is rubbish anyway....At times its as if the red tops pick the team....business-guru

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?

inter may of tabled a 12m bid?

Gaston joined he squad yesterday, but it was too late for him to play the game.

cheers BB I was worried :-)

[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote:
is Gaston not back with the squad yet?
inter may of tabled a 12m bid?[/p][/quote]Gaston joined he squad yesterday, but it was too late for him to play the game.[/p][/quote]cheers BB I was worried :-)worried of n e hampshire

Chunky62 wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil

2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals

If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But &quot;2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.

I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?

You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.

See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.

you are just a cut-n-paste kn0b. well bravo... you have worked out how to use a few keys on a computer... now all you have to do is learn how to do it correctly LOL.....

You're squealin' like a pig, boy.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Chunky62[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Guly scoring 3 goals does not mean he is staying,in 45 years of following saints,behind Fonte he is probably the 2nd worse player to ever don a saints shirt,the best thing that could happen is to get him a one way ticket to Brazil[/p][/quote]2011/12 - 11 Goals
2012/13 - 11 Goals
If you were claiming his form's been poor since he was moved from being a striker (about the time his goalscoring stopped) it might make sense. But "2nd worse player EVER" in 45 years? Barmy.[/p][/quote]I am a fan of Guly but you are a bit of a kn0b if you think he scored 11 goals last season !?[/p][/quote]You're right - wrong seasons in the list. should have been 10/11 and 11/12.
See what I did there? It's called acknowledging a mistake in my FACTS. Give a go. Oh no, I forgot, you just make them up.[/p][/quote]you are just a cut-n-paste kn0b. well bravo... you have worked out how to use a few keys on a computer... now all you have to do is learn how to do it correctly LOL.....[/p][/quote]You're squealin' like a pig, boy.John Shuttleworth

I find the comedy on here to be top level, if it wasn't for the resident comedians on here it would get rather dull! what we do without theboooooorer and guru amongst others telling jokes about their support for saints and things they know. i often find myself doubled over in laughter at some of their jokes.
then when they get heckled they react like professional comedians and throw abuse at the hecklers.

cue the `unwitty` response............
......

I find the comedy on here to be top level, if it wasn't for the resident comedians on here it would get rather dull! what we do without theboooooorer and guru amongst others telling jokes about their support for saints and things they know. i often find myself doubled over in laughter at some of their jokes.
then when they get heckled they react like professional comedians and throw abuse at the hecklers.
cue the `unwitty` response............
......el caballo santos101

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STIDst1halo

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]Oh i'm sorry, i read that again and nearly fell off my sun lounger!!
Well done OSPREYSAINT!!
Top comedian this fella!!!
Look out for him next time on Britain's Got Talent!StevieSteve

Like the first warm-up match, we can't read too much into the score or the opposition - neither matter much right now.

However, well done Guly; that has to be a confidence booster. He had a tough time last year, some of it self inflicted, but it would be great for everyone (even his doubters) if he turned in some top-drawer performances next season.

In terms of the match, what interests me more than the score is the 4 young players who got a run out - Chambers, Isgrove, Stephens and Turnbull. It's all good experience and part of their development.

Meanwhile, does anyone know why Mayuka was missing? niggle? Injury?

Like the first warm-up match, we can't read too much into the score or the opposition - neither matter much right now.
However, well done Guly; that has to be a confidence booster. He had a tough time last year, some of it self inflicted, but it would be great for everyone (even his doubters) if he turned in some top-drawer performances next season.
In terms of the match, what interests me more than the score is the 4 young players who got a run out - Chambers, Isgrove, Stephens and Turnbull. It's all good experience and part of their development.
Meanwhile, does anyone know why Mayuka was missing? niggle? Injury?Strasbourg Saint

well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talk

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Sky Sports: Reports emanating from Italy claim Southampton are preparing another move to try and sign Pablo Daniel Osvaldo from Roma.[/p][/quote]well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talkel caballo santos101

well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talk

The Giallorossi camp at Riscone di Brunico has been beset by problems, as ultras repeatedly staged protests and held up insulting banners.

Today there were two particularly vicious banners targeted at the team and in particular at unsettled striker Osvaldo.

‘Osvaldo is a coward,’ read one, while the other referred to the Coppa Italia Final defeat to Lazio in May. ‘26-5-13: Nothing will go unpunished.”

Hmmm.... He's going to want to leave i'm sure but, do we want someone who's not got any other options??

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Sky Sports: Reports emanating from Italy claim Southampton are preparing another move to try and sign Pablo Daniel Osvaldo from Roma.[/p][/quote]well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talk[/p][/quote]Here's a bit of Daily Echo reporting :) from football-italia.net
"Protests continue at Roma’s pre-season training, warning the team ‘will not go unpunished’ and calling Pablo Daniel Osvaldo “a coward.”
The Giallorossi camp at Riscone di Brunico has been beset by problems, as ultras repeatedly staged protests and held up insulting banners.
Today there were two particularly vicious banners targeted at the team and in particular at unsettled striker Osvaldo.
‘Osvaldo is a coward,’ read one, while the other referred to the Coppa Italia Final defeat to Lazio in May. ‘26-5-13: Nothing will go unpunished.”
Hmmm.... He's going to want to leave i'm sure but, do we want someone who's not got any other options??StevieSteve

Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.

Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.lowe esteem

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Like the first warm-up match, we can't read too much into the score or the opposition - neither matter much right now.

However, well done Guly; that has to be a confidence booster. He had a tough time last year, some of it self inflicted, but it would be great for everyone (even his doubters) if he turned in some top-drawer performances next season.

In terms of the match, what interests me more than the score is the 4 young players who got a run out - Chambers, Isgrove, Stephens and Turnbull. It's all good experience and part of their development.

Meanwhile, does anyone know why Mayuka was missing? niggle? Injury?

Mayuka is carrying a knock.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Like the first warm-up match, we can't read too much into the score or the opposition - neither matter much right now.
However, well done Guly; that has to be a confidence booster. He had a tough time last year, some of it self inflicted, but it would be great for everyone (even his doubters) if he turned in some top-drawer performances next season.
In terms of the match, what interests me more than the score is the 4 young players who got a run out - Chambers, Isgrove, Stephens and Turnbull. It's all good experience and part of their development.
Meanwhile, does anyone know why Mayuka was missing? niggle? Injury?[/p][/quote]Mayuka is carrying a knock.Baddesley Bill

lowe esteem wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.

love it

[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.[/p][/quote]love itCpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

Always consider the source: Guly was purchased cheaply and easily from Cesena, a Serie B outfit who happened to get promoted to the Serie A that season, with Guly playing very much a bit part. Cesena went back to Serie B. Saints moved on and up, and really should have helped Guly find his level...go to Reading, or stay here on the bench at best. We need to sign Osvaldo to score the goals that move us up the Prem.

Always consider the source: Guly was purchased cheaply and easily from Cesena, a Serie B outfit who happened to get promoted to the Serie A that season, with Guly playing very much a bit part. Cesena went back to Serie B. Saints moved on and up, and really should have helped Guly find his level...go to Reading, or stay here on the bench at best. We need to sign Osvaldo to score the goals that move us up the Prem.batesieboy

lowe esteem wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.

love it

.... and me.

[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.[/p][/quote]love it[/p][/quote].... and me.Strasbourg Saint

lowe esteem wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.

"Hark! I hear a knocking at the south entry. Retire to your chamber thou overweight, sweating, anal ,gobshite. A little water will clean you of your deed."

Next time they come to stay, I think I'll incorporate that into a story for my sister's grandkids. "Mr Mole and the overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite."

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote:
Well, I think Guly always plays well for someone carrying so many overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite experts on his back most games. We would not have got promoted without his input, goals and versatility(work it out-don't rely on me to qualify this with the propagandist word 'Fact').
Presume only the clear-sighted 'loyals' are in Spain.
Looking forward to watching and cheering all my team in the RED (and white) kit for hire soon.[/p][/quote]love it[/p][/quote].... and me.[/p][/quote]Agreed top notch comment.
A few choice words there borrowed from Macbeth unless I'm mistaken ie Lady Macbeth in Act 2 Scene 2:
"Hark! I hear a knocking at the south entry. Retire to your chamber thou overweight, sweating, anal ,gobshite. A little water will clean you of your deed."
Next time they come to stay, I think I'll incorporate that into a story for my sister's grandkids. "Mr Mole and the overweight, sweating, anal, gobshite."Confucious

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

last word should be &quot;sites", sorry.

Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)

Oy, oy oy, and now you're accusing him of being overweight!

I resemble that remark! Had another day out in the sun if you are wondering why I haven't been boring the pants off of you.

[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]last word should be "sites", sorry.[/p][/quote]Come on Osprey, lighten up! :)[/p][/quote]Oy, oy oy, and now you're accusing him of being overweight![/p][/quote]I resemble that remark! Had another day out in the sun if you are wondering why I haven't been boring the pants off of you.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

As I said before you could try it, an then you may not so much derision?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]As I said before you could try it, an then you may not so much derision?OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like

The new shirt is selling worse than last year's

NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations

Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players

And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"

Keep squealing like a pig, boy!

knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....

So it was easy to WUM but why do you bother?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like
The new shirt is selling worse than last year's
NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations
Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players
And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"
Keep squealing like a pig, boy![/p][/quote]knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....[/p][/quote]So it was easy to WUM but why do you bother?OSPREYSAINT

[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]Oh i'm sorry, i read that again and nearly fell off my sun lounger!!
Well done OSPREYSAINT!!
Top comedian this fella!!!
Look out for him next time on Britain's Got Talent![/p][/quote]No talent, just a very strange sense of humour :o)OSPREYSAINT

el caballo santos101 wrote:
I find the comedy on here to be top level, if it wasn't for the resident comedians on here it would get rather dull! what we do without theboooooorer and guru amongst others telling jokes about their support for saints and things they know. i often find myself doubled over in laughter at some of their jokes.
then when they get heckled they react like professional comedians and throw abuse at the hecklers.

cue the `unwitty` response............

......

'unwitty', anything to oblige.

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
I find the comedy on here to be top level, if it wasn't for the resident comedians on here it would get rather dull! what we do without theboooooorer and guru amongst others telling jokes about their support for saints and things they know. i often find myself doubled over in laughter at some of their jokes.
then when they get heckled they react like professional comedians and throw abuse at the hecklers.
cue the `unwitty` response............
......[/p][/quote]'unwitty', anything to oblige.OSPREYSAINT

Northam Block 40 wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....

Had RL still been on the pitch 2nd half he would have buried the Penalty, sadly he had to leave it to his apprentice JRod to do the job, showing that he has learned from The Master..

[quote][p][bold]Northam Block 40[/bold] wrote:
and dont be worried that Rickie didnt score i mean when was the last time he scored in preseason?? SRL saves the goals for when it matters.....[/p][/quote]Had RL still been on the pitch 2nd half he would have buried the Penalty, sadly he had to leave it to his apprentice JRod to do the job, showing that he has learned from The Master..OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

As I said before you could try it, an then you may not so much derision?

Missing letter and word round, no prizes for guessing what they should be! = 'd' and 'get' in case you were that bothered.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]As I said before you could try it, an then you may not so much derision?[/p][/quote]Missing letter and word round, no prizes for guessing what they should be! = 'd' and 'get' in case you were that bothered.OSPREYSAINT

well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talk

The Giallorossi camp at Riscone di Brunico has been beset by problems, as ultras repeatedly staged protests and held up insulting banners.

Today there were two particularly vicious banners targeted at the team and in particular at unsettled striker Osvaldo.

‘Osvaldo is a coward,’ read one, while the other referred to the Coppa Italia Final defeat to Lazio in May. ‘26-5-13: Nothing will go unpunished.”

Hmmm.... He's going to want to leave i'm sure but, do we want someone who's not got any other options??

I tried researching this lad, he seems to have a bit of an ego problem, would his skills outweigh his attitude, could we educate him? Is he worth the hassle? NC will decide I guess.

[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Sky Sports: Reports emanating from Italy claim Southampton are preparing another move to try and sign Pablo Daniel Osvaldo from Roma.[/p][/quote]well we know roma want shot of him so doing a deal with them shouldn't be a problem, so I guess its up to Osvaldo himself.
is he the right type of player for us? he has had some `attitude` problems at roma in the past, would he bring that attitude here or would MP know how to handle him.
again this could just be paper talk[/p][/quote]Here's a bit of Daily Echo reporting :) from football-italia.net
"Protests continue at Roma’s pre-season training, warning the team ‘will not go unpunished’ and calling Pablo Daniel Osvaldo “a coward.”
The Giallorossi camp at Riscone di Brunico has been beset by problems, as ultras repeatedly staged protests and held up insulting banners.
Today there were two particularly vicious banners targeted at the team and in particular at unsettled striker Osvaldo.
‘Osvaldo is a coward,’ read one, while the other referred to the Coppa Italia Final defeat to Lazio in May. ‘26-5-13: Nothing will go unpunished.”
Hmmm.... He's going to want to leave i'm sure but, do we want someone who's not got any other options??[/p][/quote]I tried researching this lad, he seems to have a bit of an ego problem, would his skills outweigh his attitude, could we educate him? Is he worth the hassle? NC will decide I guess.OSPREYSAINT

That's what you call any side who beats our fishy neighbours. Maybe now they are in league 2 we should stop calling them skates. Minnows might suit better.

[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote:
Heroic minnow killers hahaha[/p][/quote]Who are you talking about....Charlton?[/p][/quote]That's what you call any side who beats our fishy neighbours. Maybe now they are in league 2 we should stop calling them skates. Minnows might suit better.Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....

But he was posting in the dark days of Div one where were you?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..[/p][/quote]he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....[/p][/quote]But he was posting in the dark days of Div one where were you?leosaint

it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..

he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....

But he was posting in the dark days of Div one where were you?

posting under this I.D. since 2010 and my old Baron I.D. before that , a lot longer than him.

[quote][p][bold]leosaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]FindAndDestroy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]it's a team work, some defend and provide, and others score, you are being a bit harsh on lambos and wanyama, these are warm up games, players are careful, they cant give everything just yet, we don't want any injuries before the season start, do we?just take it easy, all our players are proven qualities, this is not the time to criticized, lets just wait for the season..[/p][/quote]he is not criticising... he thinks he is funny and ironic.... you are supposed to belly laugh and congratulate him on his wit and devastating sense of humour....[/p][/quote]But he was posting in the dark days of Div one where were you?[/p][/quote]posting under this I.D. since 2010 and my old Baron I.D. before that , a lot longer than him.business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like

The new shirt is selling worse than last year's

NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations

Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players

And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"

Keep squealing like a pig, boy!

knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....

So it was easy to WUM but why do you bother?

because he is an ar5ehole who called me liar....

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Shuttleworth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Aww, poor Guru, started being sensible and posting like a normal humanoid but it seems he's still upset about people asking him to back up the mad statements he makes, like
The new shirt is selling worse than last year's
NC mishandled the Adidas negotiations
Saints have a contract that is unique in the whole Premier League for the restrictions it places on players
And apparently it's up to everyone else to disprove his made up "facts"
Keep squealing like a pig, boy![/p][/quote]knew that would smoke out the stick !! LOL !! that was like fishing in a paddling pool full of fish !! LOL !! you just can't help yourself can you , your newest most bestest way of inflating your ego !! enjoy.....[/p][/quote]So it was easy to WUM but why do you bother?[/p][/quote]because he is an ar5ehole who called me liar....business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .slugger

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

I am not actually against the policy of a Player having to get Permission from the Club to represent them, as in the past some players have misbehaved and brought the Club into disrepute. I have no doubt if a Player asked if he could represent the Club, the answer would be either yes with our blessing, or no, please do not as we have a good reason why you should not. Is that unreasonable?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]I am not actually against the policy of a Player having to get Permission from the Club to represent them, as in the past some players have misbehaved and brought the Club into disrepute. I have no doubt if a Player asked if he could represent the Club, the answer would be either yes with our blessing, or no, please do not as we have a good reason why you should not. Is that unreasonable?OSPREYSAINT

Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .slugger

lambo83 wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...

Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.

[quote][p][bold]lambo83[/bold] wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...[/p][/quote]Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.OSPREYSAINT

lambo83 wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...

Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.

You can get 66/1 from BetVictor or a miserly 40/1 from Skybet if you think he might be the one. Gerardo Martino ranges from 8/11, 5/4, 13/8 or 11/10 favourite, and I have never heard of him.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lambo83[/bold] wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...[/p][/quote]Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.[/p][/quote]You can get 66/1 from BetVictor or a miserly 40/1 from Skybet if you think he might be the one. Gerardo Martino ranges from 8/11, 5/4, 13/8 or 11/10 favourite, and I have never heard of him.OSPREYSAINT

lambo83 wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...

Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.

You can get 66/1 from BetVictor or a miserly 40/1 from Skybet if you think he might be the one. Gerardo Martino ranges from 8/11, 5/4, 13/8 or 11/10 favourite, and I have never heard of him.

I fancy a little fiver on that, it's probably nonsense, but we'll see.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lambo83[/bold] wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...[/p][/quote]Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.[/p][/quote]You can get 66/1 from BetVictor or a miserly 40/1 from Skybet if you think he might be the one. Gerardo Martino ranges from 8/11, 5/4, 13/8 or 11/10 favourite, and I have never heard of him.[/p][/quote]I fancy a little fiver on that, it's probably nonsense, but we'll see.lambo83

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

again I disagree with this statement because 2 kids teams that I have friends at had players at their presentation evenings at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to you and in your situation but I was involved in kids league footy for several years until recently, I still know and talk to people involved though, and every time the club was asked if a player could do a presentation evening the answer was always yes.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]again I disagree with this statement because 2 kids teams that I have friends at had players at their presentation evenings at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to you and in your situation but I was involved in kids league footy for several years until recently, I still know and talk to people involved though, and every time the club was asked if a player could do a presentation evening the answer was always yes.el caballo santos101

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

again I disagree with this statement because 2 kids teams that I have friends at had players at their presentation evenings at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to you and in your situation but I was involved in kids league footy for several years until recently, I still know and talk to people involved though, and every time the club was asked if a player could do a presentation evening the answer was always yes.

you may disagree but its a fact. They may well have had players at their events.... but that had to be sanctioned through "proper channels". The fact remains in other clubs the club does "not need to be asked" if the player is on their own time and is not representing the club. At most other clubs the only time the club "has to be asked" is if its during the playing season and the time slot(s) involved fall under what some clubs refer to as "controlled time" , ie time during the season when players agree to certain work/rest patterns, food intake etc etc etc.

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]again I disagree with this statement because 2 kids teams that I have friends at had players at their presentation evenings at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to you and in your situation but I was involved in kids league footy for several years until recently, I still know and talk to people involved though, and every time the club was asked if a player could do a presentation evening the answer was always yes.[/p][/quote]you may disagree but its a fact. They may well have had players at their events.... but that had to be sanctioned through "proper channels". The fact remains in other clubs the club does "not need to be asked" if the player is on their own time and is not representing the club. At most other clubs the only time the club "has to be asked" is if its during the playing season and the time slot(s) involved fall under what some clubs refer to as "controlled time" , ie time during the season when players agree to certain work/rest patterns, food intake etc etc etc.business-guru

lambo83 wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...

Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.

which language are you referring to Castillian spanish, Latin spanish, Catalan or Occitan? ;0)

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lambo83[/bold] wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...[/p][/quote]Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.[/p][/quote]which language are you referring to Castillian spanish, Latin spanish, Catalan or Occitan? ;0)business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.business-guru

lambo83 wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...

Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.

which language are you referring to Castillian spanish, Latin spanish, Catalan or Occitan? ;0)

Spanish.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lambo83[/bold] wrote:
Make of this what you will, but I heard that Barca want to talk to Pochettino...[/p][/quote]Well at least they speak the same language, they probably want his opinion about the qualities of The Chosen One.[/p][/quote]which language are you referring to Castillian spanish, Latin spanish, Catalan or Occitan? ;0)[/p][/quote]Spanish.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.business-guru

Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.

Either way, you might as well change the record.

So....who's going to West Brom?

I think I'm experiencing de ja vue....
Guru...are you always this repetitive?
Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.
Either way, you might as well change the record.
So....who's going to West Brom?Baddesley Bill

Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.

Either way, you might as well change the record.

So....who's going to West Brom?

only when idiots ask the same questions. I don't feel stongly about it. I could not give a monkeys. I was just pointing out that Personal terms at SFC may cause issues with signing players. Its not hard to understand.

[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote:
I think I'm experiencing de ja vue....
Guru...are you always this repetitive?
Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.
Either way, you might as well change the record.
So....who's going to West Brom?[/p][/quote]only when idiots ask the same questions. I don't feel stongly about it. I could not give a monkeys. I was just pointing out that Personal terms at SFC may cause issues with signing players. Its not hard to understand.business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!OSPREYSAINT

Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.

Either way, you might as well change the record.

So....who's going to West Brom?

only when idiots ask the same questions. I don't feel stongly about it. I could not give a monkeys. I was just pointing out that Personal terms at SFC may cause issues with signing players. Its not hard to understand.

idiots? Why are they idiots when all they want is simple answers to simple questions. The real idiot is the one making malicious gossip, but not backing it up with detail, all that is just a WUM designed to annoy, and of course succeeding.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote:
I think I'm experiencing de ja vue....
Guru...are you always this repetitive?
Please face facts, this issue you feel so strongly about will not change. Personally, I don't see it as a major issue at all.
Either way, you might as well change the record.
So....who's going to West Brom?[/p][/quote]only when idiots ask the same questions. I don't feel stongly about it. I could not give a monkeys. I was just pointing out that Personal terms at SFC may cause issues with signing players. Its not hard to understand.[/p][/quote]idiots? Why are they idiots when all they want is simple answers to simple questions. The real idiot is the one making malicious gossip, but not backing it up with detail, all that is just a WUM designed to annoy, and of course succeeding.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .slugger

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

London bookies had us to be relegated last year, they aren't always correct, but they are very often right. You don't see many poor bookies, but they do make poor judgements at time when they haven't got all the details they need to make their assessment of the odds.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]London bookies had us to be relegated last year, they aren't always correct, but they are very often right. You don't see many poor bookies, but they do make poor judgements at time when they haven't got all the details they need to make their assessment of the odds.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

I accept the point too, if a Player signs for us, despite some personal restrictions, it means they have bought into the dream, I have no time for a player if his ego is bigger than the Club, Southampton is the name, no room for other outside Commercial perks which could interfere. IN MY OPINION. :o | that's my serious face.

[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]I accept the point too, if a Player signs for us, despite some personal restrictions, it means they have bought into the dream, I have no time for a player if his ego is bigger than the Club, Southampton is the name, no room for other outside Commercial perks which could interfere. IN MY OPINION. :o | that's my serious face.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.[/p][/quote]"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??

OK pedant I wish! There may be others.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.[/p][/quote]"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??[/p][/quote]OK pedant I wish! There may be others.OSPREYSAINT

I reckon Bale will go if Rooney can escape... its all fits nicely. Higuian I think was being targetted by Arsenal but will they cough up the readies....

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Only 1/2 offered for Bale to move to United, can't get a price quoted on the Higuian move, I'll keep looking.
Cherries (sn) 0 Real 6 FT[/p][/quote]I reckon Bale will go if Rooney can escape... its all fits nicely. Higuian I think was being targetted by Arsenal but will they cough up the readies....business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??

OK pedant I wish! There may be others.

Gaston's agent has the same problem... he spoke to an Italian news agency this weekend about Inter's interest and said "we think" the slubs have spoken.... when pressed he admitted he mean't he thought and that he had not actually spoken to either Saints or Inter.... so , that story just sounds to me the agent is maybe looking to put a pool in and needs a few quid...

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[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.[/p][/quote]"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??[/p][/quote]OK pedant I wish! There may be others.[/p][/quote]Gaston's agent has the same problem... he spoke to an Italian news agency this weekend about Inter's interest and said "we think" the slubs have spoken.... when pressed he admitted he mean't he thought and that he had not actually spoken to either Saints or Inter.... so , that story just sounds to me the agent is maybe looking to put a pool in and needs a few quid...business-guru

business-guru wrote:
Can answer the question.... to those whose business it is. Internet Service Provider problems often get in the way in Napoli... its very hit and miss...

Can but won't and you ruined the joke, kindly leave the stage.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
Can answer the question.... to those whose business it is. Internet Service Provider problems often get in the way in Napoli... its very hit and miss...[/p][/quote]Can but won't and you ruined the joke, kindly leave the stage.OSPREYSAINT

No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STIDst1halo

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

he works for Napoli F.C.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?[/p][/quote]he works for Napoli F.C.business-guru

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Meta? Don't know that one.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Meta? Don't know that one.OSPREYSAINT

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.OSPREYSAINT

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

he works for Napoli F.C.

Tea boy?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?[/p][/quote]he works for Napoli F.C.[/p][/quote]Tea boy?OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??

I am bored with this. There is no need for anyone to prove themselves right or anyone else to prove others wrong wrong. It just becomes a 'p!ssing contest. I can't even be bothered to read all the threads anymore. If BG want to tells us he knows things that is up to him. If people chose to disbelieve him then that is fine. Its just this constant bickering gets on my t!ts. No offence intended. Maybe its because its Sunday night, I've had too many Bacardi and Coke's and I have to work tomorrow but, I'm bored. Hurry up and sign someone else and roll on next season...

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[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.[/p][/quote]"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??[/p][/quote]I am bored with this. There is no need for anyone to prove themselves right or anyone else to prove others wrong wrong. It just becomes a 'p!ssing contest. I can't even be bothered to read all the threads anymore. If BG want to tells us he knows things that is up to him. If people chose to disbelieve him then that is fine. Its just this constant bickering gets on my t!ts. No offence intended. Maybe its because its Sunday night, I've had too many Bacardi and Coke's and I have to work tomorrow but, I'm bored. Hurry up and sign someone else and roll on next season...Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?business-guru

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

.

Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

he works for Napoli F.C.

Tea boy?

he does whatever job you think he does , so long as it makes you sleep better... You would make a total t1t of yourself though if you asked anyone at any Italian stadium if they were the "tea boy"... not well travelled I take it !!

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?[/p][/quote]he works for Napoli F.C.[/p][/quote]Tea boy?[/p][/quote]he does whatever job you think he does , so long as it makes you sleep better... You would make a total t1t of yourself though if you asked anyone at any Italian stadium if they were the "tea boy"... not well travelled I take it !!business-guru

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]Oh i'm sorry, i read that again and nearly fell off my sun lounger!!
Well done OSPREYSAINT!!
Top comedian this fella!!!
Look out for him next time on Britain's Got Talent![/p][/quote]No talent, just a very strange sense of humour :o)[/p][/quote]For once, I 100% agree with you!! ;)StevieSteve

so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.

on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.

so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.
on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.el caballo santos101

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.OSPREYSAINT

el caballo santos101 wrote:
so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.

on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.

He wipes hard drives using esp he says! Almost as believable as our friendly guru.

[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.
on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.[/p][/quote]He wipes hard drives using esp he says! Almost as believable as our friendly guru.OSPREYSAINT

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.

"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??

I am bored with this. There is no need for anyone to prove themselves right or anyone else to prove others wrong wrong. It just becomes a 'p!ssing contest. I can't even be bothered to read all the threads anymore. If BG want to tells us he knows things that is up to him. If people chose to disbelieve him then that is fine. Its just this constant bickering gets on my t!ts. No offence intended. Maybe its because its Sunday night, I've had too many Bacardi and Coke's and I have to work tomorrow but, I'm bored. Hurry up and sign someone else and roll on next season...

Sorry, my bad. Wish we had something different to discuss.

[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]We also wished you had never mentioned it, promise you won't do it again unless it appears on the OS, and we will let you off.[/p][/quote]"WE" !?!? you really do have some issues... LOL.... the dreaded split personality !! or have you promoted yourself to spokesperson of your forum gang ??[/p][/quote]I am bored with this. There is no need for anyone to prove themselves right or anyone else to prove others wrong wrong. It just becomes a 'p!ssing contest. I can't even be bothered to read all the threads anymore. If BG want to tells us he knows things that is up to him. If people chose to disbelieve him then that is fine. Its just this constant bickering gets on my t!ts. No offence intended. Maybe its because its Sunday night, I've had too many Bacardi and Coke's and I have to work tomorrow but, I'm bored. Hurry up and sign someone else and roll on next season...[/p][/quote]Sorry, my bad. Wish we had something different to discuss.OSPREYSAINT

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....business-guru

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

If you want a real boring thread check out the Rhino story in the News threads. guru and I barely got a word in edgeways!

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....[/p][/quote]If you want a real boring thread check out the Rhino story in the News threads. guru and I barely got a word in edgeways!OSPREYSAINT

[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Lambos drought continues, and Wanyama can't shoot straight, 4 misses in two games.[/p][/quote]**** off mate[/p][/quote]lol no sense of humour some people.[/p][/quote]Oh i'm sorry, i read that again and nearly fell off my sun lounger!!
Well done OSPREYSAINT!!
Top comedian this fella!!!
Look out for him next time on Britain's Got Talent![/p][/quote]No talent, just a very strange sense of humour :o)[/p][/quote]For once, I 100% agree with you!! ;)[/p][/quote]May the farce be with you :o]OSPREYSAINT

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

.. and it was free to view, no money back.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....[/p][/quote].. and it was free to view, no money back.OSPREYSAINT

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

.. and it was free to view, no money back.

when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch !

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....[/p][/quote].. and it was free to view, no money back.[/p][/quote]when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch !business-guru

el caballo santos101 wrote:
so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.

on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.

He wipes hard drives using esp he says! Almost as believable as our friendly guru.

I lost count of how many `agencies` he claims to have worked for. all that power and he `used it` to move a football to stop the jocks scoring against us. fine work and yet he hasn't been rewarded by the queen, downright disgrace.

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote:
so the cherries (silly name) fans paid £60 to watch their team get stuffed by the mighty real. some paid the money because its Madrid on the south coast. fools! if they had waited a couple of years they could come to sms to see them in a competitive game.
on a different note, did anyone else just watch the secret life of the bloke who moved the ball on the penalty spot for England in euro96? my god that man lives in some sort of dream world. he is good at evading questions though.[/p][/quote]He wipes hard drives using esp he says! Almost as believable as our friendly guru.[/p][/quote]I lost count of how many `agencies` he claims to have worked for. all that power and he `used it` to move a football to stop the jocks scoring against us. fine work and yet he hasn't been rewarded by the queen, downright disgrace.el caballo santos101

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

.. and it was free to view, no money back.

when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch !

Can't argue with that, pity they lost, that was careless.

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....[/p][/quote].. and it was free to view, no money back.[/p][/quote]when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch ![/p][/quote]Can't argue with that, pity they lost, that was careless.OSPREYSAINT

st1halo wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.

STID

I was not talking about you.

Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.

were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?

No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.

Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....

.. and it was free to view, no money back.

when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch !

Can't argue with that, pity they lost, that was careless.

we gave them 12 runs in the first few overs as our Wicky decided to keep right behind the stumps to medium-fast bowling for reasons no one could fathom. That and our batting was shocking as was the running between... Nice atmosphere though...Another mate of mine was playing live reggae music inbetween the stands after the game... top stuff...

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
No, no, no. Guru, Firstly, I'll thank you not to suggest that I'm a fuckn idiot as the original question came from me. I understand perfectly and it is you who have misunderstood. I didnt ask you about personal time of players or contract differences between Saints and Newcastle. I asked you SPECIFICALLY about IPRs which you state and have done again this evening, are big issues for players. IPR's have nothing to do with personal time and as I said before, having investigated this issue, cannot find one single example of a 'playing' footballer either having, requiring, or needing Intellectual Property Rights. It certainly isn't a major issue and is infact extremely rare if not non-existent.
STID[/p][/quote]I was not talking about you.[/p][/quote]Name names then, you haven't got a good record on that score.[/p][/quote]were you ever in a double act with Les Dawson ?[/p][/quote]No like you, strictly solo, best give it a rest the natives are getting restless. Nice having banter with you but it is getting mega boring for the other decent posters. PAX.[/p][/quote]Agreed.... tonight's useless sh1te was brought to you by Osprey, Guru and some Tourette's sufferer called shuttlec0ck or similar....thank you all for your attention..... sorry no encore....[/p][/quote].. and it was free to view, no money back.[/p][/quote]when the Umpires returned to the pitch at the Rose Bowl today for the second innings, they played the Star Wars Imperial star destroyer/death star music as they marched out. I think we sould play that at SMS as the teams trot out to the pitch ![/p][/quote]Can't argue with that, pity they lost, that was careless.[/p][/quote]we gave them 12 runs in the first few overs as our Wicky decided to keep right behind the stumps to medium-fast bowling for reasons no one could fathom. That and our batting was shocking as was the running between... Nice atmosphere though...Another mate of mine was playing live reggae music inbetween the stands after the game... top stuff...business-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Good that you call it the proper name The Rose Bowl, is that deliberate?

yep... its the Rose Bowl, I refuse to call it after a company that quoted me £300 more than the market rate (including corporate discount) to insure my Beema

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Good that you call it the proper name The Rose Bowl, is that deliberate?[/p][/quote]yep... its the Rose Bowl, I refuse to call it after a company that quoted me £300 more than the market rate (including corporate discount) to insure my Beemabusiness-guru

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Good that you call it the proper name The Rose Bowl, is that deliberate?

yep... its the Rose Bowl, I refuse to call it after a company that quoted me £300 more than the market rate (including corporate discount) to insure my Beema

Yes totally agree nothing but the Rose Bowl

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Good that you call it the proper name The Rose Bowl, is that deliberate?[/p][/quote]yep... its the Rose Bowl, I refuse to call it after a company that quoted me £300 more than the market rate (including corporate discount) to insure my Beema[/p][/quote]Yes totally agree nothing but the Rose BowlSimmo13

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

Sorry, don't like to see these unanswered questions floating around in the ether, so would suggest you purchase an Adidas shirt, nothing goes near them, even stripes. Failing that you could go and give it a bloodygood manual rub (again) thus increasing your chances of defective vision and judgement-oops too late!
Oh, by the way, were there any giant-killing acts over the weekend or did all the plankton and minnows lose?

[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]Sorry, don't like to see these unanswered questions floating around in the ether, so would suggest you purchase an Adidas shirt, nothing goes near them, even stripes. Failing that you could go and give it a bloodygood manual rub (again) thus increasing your chances of defective vision and judgement-oops too late!
Oh, by the way, were there any giant-killing acts over the weekend or did all the plankton and minnows lose?lowe esteem

All this talk and arguments about IPR. AS I understand it most clubs will pay their palyers for use of their Image rights.This is because if I recall Image Rights are not classed as income by HMRC and therefore they are a tax efficient way of paying players. So all of this will be taken into account when negotiating a players contract. Ricky Lambert's image rights would be much more than Guly's. Our friends at the other end of the M27 paid Sol Campbell more for his image rights than they could ever hope to make from selling shirts and memrobelia with his name or picture on. This was pure and simply tax avoidence.Not that it did poor old Sol any good because he didn't get paid and that is why he ended up being a creditor of PFC.

All this talk and arguments about IPR. AS I understand it most clubs will pay their palyers for use of their Image rights.This is because if I recall Image Rights are not classed as income by HMRC and therefore they are a tax efficient way of paying players. So all of this will be taken into account when negotiating a players contract. Ricky Lambert's image rights would be much more than Guly's. Our friends at the other end of the M27 paid Sol Campbell more for his image rights than they could ever hope to make from selling shirts and memrobelia with his name or picture on. This was pure and simply tax avoidence.Not that it did poor old Sol any good because he didn't get paid and that is why he ended up being a creditor of PFC.Redrobbo

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.

Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.

STID

the humour and the ever lasting quest for &quot;proof".... ;0)

Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!

:-)

STID

or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.

Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.

Just felt the need to set the record straight there.

STID

The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.

So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .

its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.

I take your point .

its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&amp;cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap

art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?

Sorry, don't like to see these unanswered questions floating around in the ether, so would suggest you purchase an Adidas shirt, nothing goes near them, even stripes. Failing that you could go and give it a bloodygood manual rub (again) thus increasing your chances of defective vision and judgement-oops too late!
Oh, by the way, were there any giant-killing acts over the weekend or did all the plankton and minnows lose?

Have you actually seen the new shirt close up? It definitely has stripes on it. Three white ones on each arm.

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[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
Perhaps, now we are in the Premiership, humour should take a back seat, we should be discussing the merits, and pros and cons, dealing with facts and figures, opinions can be made, but it should be made clear that these are opinions and not facts, unless backed up with an authorative source. Any use of humour should be shown as such somehow, so that those that cannot recognise a joke, won't have to be embarrassed by posting rebukes having not realised that the original post was intended to amuse. This is where smileys and emoticons prove useful on other sights.[/p][/quote]Its the humour that makes this forum interesting Os. Confucious would have to stop posting for a start. The trouble is that these comments are like texts and can easily be misread. Smileys may help but even that is dependant on the readers interpretation. I posted a quip the other day to someone about happy clappers and put lol after it and he still took it seriously!
It would be extemely boring without the humour... how many times have I read .. I think we need cover for the right back, a centre back, an attacking midfielder and a striker.... jeez, so does everyone! So keep the humour in the front seat please.
STID[/p][/quote]the humour and the ever lasting quest for "proof".... ;0) [ see what I did there ][/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Although, of course, the quest could be obviated by the refraining from talking 'b0ll0ks'!
:-)
STID[/p][/quote]or by the fact that its impossible to prove many things in type.[/p][/quote]Far be it from me to give advice, and you are not obliged to take any, Guru. I always try to either substantiate or qualify what I post as these comments are permanent and if I can't, I don't. If it is too involved a process to list, then a source or link often suffices. Whilst sometimes I may be blunt, I am always respecful as we are all Saints fans here and have a common interest. (The exception being TB of course as in all this time I have not read a single solitary "supportive" comment from him).
For the record,I have nothing against you as you are a 'Saint' and I haven't asked for proof of anything other than a qualification of this IPR business you have mentioned as I find no mention anywhere in relation to footballers.
Just felt the need to set the record straight there.
STID[/p][/quote]The IPR issue is straight forward. Saints players are not allowed the freedom to represent themselves and others in other clubs are. This is a fact because I have been ( with my associated ) at the end of it.... The reason I used Newcastle as an example is because I know the family of an ex-saint who is involved with charities up there and hence I know, again, for a fact that players have more freedom than saints players. This just happens to be true..... I can't really help that....and the only way to prove it is ask a Saints player personally as we did to come and represent themselves in a personal capacity and they will be prevented from doing so when in similar circumstances others from other clubs would not.[/p][/quote]So what ? , the players sign a contract and know exactly where hey stand , nothing sinister from where i'm sat .[/p][/quote]its not sinister. but it could be an issue for a potential signing who wants control of his personal time out of season to follow commercial and social contacts.... IPR issues is a major cause of potential signings falling through.... People assume "failure to agree personal term" means wages, and if often does , but it also covers other issues to. Lots of spanish and Italian players for instance have much larger collateral income by a % than premier league players on the whole ( esp spanish ) and its possible their commercial commitments would not be compatible with SFC's requirement to control personal off-season time.[/p][/quote]I take your point .[/p][/quote]its not something I care about... I wished I had never mentioned it tbo,,, SFCs t&cs are obviously good enough for Love-will-tear-us-ap
art and VW.... True it was a pain-in-the-ar5e to have a commitment broken after an agreement was made but it was not the end of the world... anyway.... back to shirts.... I have a squashed bug mark on my favourite work shirt... what is the best product for using as a pre-soak to rid me of this ?[/p][/quote]Sorry, don't like to see these unanswered questions floating around in the ether, so would suggest you purchase an Adidas shirt, nothing goes near them, even stripes. Failing that you could go and give it a bloodygood manual rub (again) thus increasing your chances of defective vision and judgement-oops too late!
Oh, by the way, were there any giant-killing acts over the weekend or did all the plankton and minnows lose?[/p][/quote]Have you actually seen the new shirt close up? It definitely has stripes on it. Three white ones on each arm.OSPREYSAINT

Most Southampton Sunday League Teams, who play in the afternoon after the pubs chuck out and even those who play in the morning, with a hangover after the night before, would give Palamos a run for their money.
What is the point of MP pitting Saints against such dire opposition except to boost his win statistics - how can it possibly get Saints up to scratch to play Cardiff, yet alone Man U and Arseal?
MP has already shown the quality of his management skills by finishing, not third from last, not second from last but rock bottom with his previous club.
And replacing an unfairly sacked manager whose record during his last 12 games in charge was superior to MP's is another inspired signing by Mr Cortese just like Gaston, JR and the Norwegian Super Defender signed to bolster Saints this season, who was sold back to his old club Molde for half what NC paid without kicking a ball, plus of course the PR Director who lasted all of two weeks.
Watch out Saints fans, what goes around comes around, I think you're in for a bumpy ride this season -- the result of being run by an egotistical dictator.
Before anyone points out his successes --- even Hitler and Mussolini --- in their early days enjoyed great success -- but how did they end up?
What goes around comes around!

Most Southampton Sunday League Teams, who play in the afternoon after the pubs chuck out and even those who play in the morning, with a hangover after the night before, would give Palamos a run for their money.
What is the point of MP pitting Saints against such dire opposition except to boost his win statistics - how can it possibly get Saints up to scratch to play Cardiff, yet alone Man U and Arseal?
MP has already shown the quality of his management skills by finishing, not third from last, not second from last but rock bottom with his previous club.
And replacing an unfairly sacked manager whose record during his last 12 games in charge was superior to MP's is another inspired signing by Mr Cortese just like Gaston, JR and the Norwegian Super Defender signed to bolster Saints this season, who was sold back to his old club Molde for half what NC paid without kicking a ball, plus of course the PR Director who lasted all of two weeks.
Watch out Saints fans, what goes around comes around, I think you're in for a bumpy ride this season -- the result of being run by an egotistical dictator.
Before anyone points out his successes --- even Hitler and Mussolini --- in their early days enjoyed great success -- but how did they end up?
What goes around comes around!TEBOURBA

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

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Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

he works for Napoli F.C.

Tea boy?

Wasn't Rick Astley a tea boy at Stock, Aitken and Waternman before his 'talent' was uncovered? Didn't do him any harm, did it?

[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote:
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Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?[/p][/quote]he works for Napoli F.C.[/p][/quote]Tea boy?[/p][/quote]Wasn't Rick Astley a tea boy at Stock, Aitken and Waternman before his 'talent' was uncovered? Didn't do him any harm, did it?Beer Monster

slugger wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .

the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.

Elucidate, I am all ears.

nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.

Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid!

Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken &quot;not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.

Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.

LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..

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Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.

just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....

Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?

he works for Napoli F.C.

Tea boy?

Wasn't Rick Astley a tea boy at Stock, Aitken and Waternman before his 'talent' was uncovered? Didn't do him any harm, did it?

Absolutely, there is no disgrace in being a tea boy at all. Step one on the ladder.

[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote:
Truth is that any player invited to any function is invited because of their fame they've gained (unless invited by a personal friend) , if I controlled their contracts , I would also want a say n any representation .[/p][/quote]the instance I was referring to did indeed initiate from a personal friend and it was not involving any representation.[/p][/quote]Elucidate, I am all ears.[/p][/quote]nothing exciting. Personal friend of a Saints player arranged for him to attend a community event. It was out of season and in his own time. SFC prevented it from happening. EOS.[/p][/quote]Just name the player and the organisation then, not a secret surely?
Bournemouth 0 Real 4 Ronaldo 2 Khedira and Higuain, at least the stars have shown up and played, so have Real Madrid![/p][/quote]Name them for what purpose ? London bookie yesterday has taken "not an insignificant" amount on Bale being a Man United player by start of the season.[/p][/quote]Name the Player so that I can investigate why it all went wrong, I need the other details to verify the story.[/p][/quote]LOL... you have been watching too much "Murder-she-wrote"..
.[/p][/quote]Can't answer the question eh? Anyway real news is that Gonzalo Higuain may be playing his last game for Real Madrid tonight, Napoli have tabled a £30m bid for him. Hope ISP problems don't get in the way.[/p][/quote]just texted my buddy in Meta... he reckons Napoli won't pay the asking price for Gonzalo.... he will either stay put or go somewhere else for stupid money.... but then again what would he know....LOL....[/p][/quote]Your buddy could be right Arsenal have been asked to up their bid to £35m, big money, is he that good?[/p][/quote]he works for Napoli F.C.[/p][/quote]Tea boy?[/p][/quote]Wasn't Rick Astley a tea boy at Stock, Aitken and Waternman before his 'talent' was uncovered? Didn't do him any harm, did it?[/p][/quote]Absolutely, there is no disgrace in being a tea boy at all. Step one on the ladder.OSPREYSAINT

TEBOURBA wrote:
Most Southampton Sunday League Teams, who play in the afternoon after the pubs chuck out and even those who play in the morning, with a hangover after the night before, would give Palamos a run for their money.
What is the point of MP pitting Saints against such dire opposition except to boost his win statistics - how can it possibly get Saints up to scratch to play Cardiff, yet alone Man U and Arseal?
MP has already shown the quality of his management skills by finishing, not third from last, not second from last but rock bottom with his previous club.
And replacing an unfairly sacked manager whose record during his last 12 games in charge was superior to MP's is another inspired signing by Mr Cortese just like Gaston, JR and the Norwegian Super Defender signed to bolster Saints this season, who was sold back to his old club Molde for half what NC paid without kicking a ball, plus of course the PR Director who lasted all of two weeks.
Watch out Saints fans, what goes around comes around, I think you're in for a bumpy ride this season -- the result of being run by an egotistical dictator.
Before anyone points out his successes --- even Hitler and Mussolini --- in their early days enjoyed great success -- but how did they end up?
What goes around comes around!

You are either a first class hypocrite or mentally ill, did you not promise, not to do this again? Or is you OCD so bad that can no longer help yourself, seriously you need counselling before it is too late. Have you still not understood Godwins Law?

[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote:
Most Southampton Sunday League Teams, who play in the afternoon after the pubs chuck out and even those who play in the morning, with a hangover after the night before, would give Palamos a run for their money.
What is the point of MP pitting Saints against such dire opposition except to boost his win statistics - how can it possibly get Saints up to scratch to play Cardiff, yet alone Man U and Arseal?
MP has already shown the quality of his management skills by finishing, not third from last, not second from last but rock bottom with his previous club.
And replacing an unfairly sacked manager whose record during his last 12 games in charge was superior to MP's is another inspired signing by Mr Cortese just like Gaston, JR and the Norwegian Super Defender signed to bolster Saints this season, who was sold back to his old club Molde for half what NC paid without kicking a ball, plus of course the PR Director who lasted all of two weeks.
Watch out Saints fans, what goes around comes around, I think you're in for a bumpy ride this season -- the result of being run by an egotistical dictator.
Before anyone points out his successes --- even Hitler and Mussolini --- in their early days enjoyed great success -- but how did they end up?
What goes around comes around![/p][/quote]You are either a first class hypocrite or mentally ill, did you not promise, not to do this again? Or is you OCD so bad that can no longer help yourself, seriously you need counselling before it is too late. Have you still not understood Godwins Law?OSPREYSAINT