Has Our Government Become Tyrannical?

Thomas Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776), the third President of the United States (1801–1809), and and founder of the University of Virginia, once said the following… “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

Let’s have a look at tyranny and compare with what’s going on today…

Government tyranny is an unrestrained exercise of power, an oppressive and despotic abuse of authority, unjustly severe, burdensome and difficult to bear, and weighs heavily on the senses or spirit of man.

It could be said that unless restrained, ALL governments devolve to tyranny.

A democracy needs informed citizens if it is to thrive, or ultimately survive.

When Adolf Hitler was building up the Nazi movement in the 1920s, leading up to his taking power in the 1930s, he deliberately sought to activate people who did not normally pay much attention to politics. Such people were a valuable addition to his political base, since they were particularly susceptible to Hitler’s rhetoric and had far less basis for questioning his assumptions or his conclusions.

“Useful idiots” was the term apparently coined by Lenin to describe similarly unthinking supporters of his dictatorship in the Soviet Union.

When a largely uninformed populace can be easily led, controlled and manipulated, it opens the gates for tyranny to walk right through.

Tyranny In Stages

A tyranny does not just ‘happen’. It evolves in stages.

First, the people are dumbed-down and stripped of individualism by the state and their proxies and accomplices in the school systems, the media, and social programs and policies which breed dependence – enabling the easy manipulation of the people at large by their ‘shaped’ thought processes, their dependence and their subsequent lack of clear judgement and critical thinking.

Second, the state identifies those who are not complying to the dumbing-down process – those who remain independent and critical self-thinkers who ‘dare’ to speak out, who organize, and who question the state. Lists are created. A police state develops.

Third, the state through it’s media and propaganda proxies – publicize, demonize, label, and penalize those who engage in anti-government anti-state thoughts, speech, or behaviour so that the public at large will be deterred or feel threatened – silenced in effect.

Fourth, the state takes forceful action, prosecution and incarceration against those who are resisting the tyranny.

What is a Police State?

A police state is a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens’ activities.

Sound familiar? Can you say “NSA”? DHS?

It is fairly plain to see (if you are breathing), that our individual liberties have been substantially trampled upon during recent years.

NSA compromise of Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, and Skype via PRISM. It is unclear as to the the acceptance and/or willing involvement of the companies themselves.

This one government agency can apparently do the following:

It can track numbers of both parties on a phone call, location, time and duration.

It can hack Chinese phones and text messages.

It can set up fake internet cafes.

It can spy on foreign leaders’ cell phones.

It can tap underwater fiber-optic cables.

It can track communication within media organizations.

It can hack into the UN video conferencing system.

It can track bank transactions.

It can monitor text messages.

It can access your email, chat, and web browsing history.

It can map your social networks.

It can access your smartphone app data.

It is trying to get into secret networks like Tor, diverting users to less secure channels.

It can go undercover within embassies to have closer access to foreign networks.

It can set up listening posts on the roofs of buildings to monitor communications in a city.

It can set up a fake LinkedIn.

It can track the reservations at hotels.

It can intercept the talking points for Ban Ki-moon’s meeting with Obama.

It can crack cellphone encryption codes.

It can hack computers that aren’t connected to the internet using radio waves.

It can intercept phone calls by setting up fake base stations.

It can remotely access a computer by setting up a fake wireless connection.

It can install fake SIM cards to then control a cell phone.

It can fake a USB thumb drive that’s actually a monitoring device.

It can crack all types of computer encryption and is building more of this capability.

It can go into online games and monitor communication.

It can intercept communications between aircraft and airports.

It can physically intercept deliveries, open packages, and make changes to devices.

It can tap into links between Google and Yahoo data centers to collect email and other.

Then there are government agents that will do the following:

Search your body / property at airports if the agent is TSA.
Search your body / property at NFL games if the agent is Homeland Security.
Search your vehicle if you look ‘suspicious’ on an Interstate road if the agent is TSA.

On a whim, declare an American citizen an “enemy combatant”, and:
Detain without charge, in secret.
Deny legal representation.
Deny the right to question his detention.
Be shipped to a foreign country for interrogation, in secret.
Be tortured, in secret.
Be tried by a military tribunal, in secret.
NOT be granted access to the secret evidence against him.
Convicted based on that secret evidence.

The government spy agencies also apparently input all sources of social media, human intelligence reports, biometrics, signal intelligence from any related sources including geo-location tracking/monitoring/cell-phones, IP-location, voice, electronic signature bread crumbs, etc., and cyber (internet) data — for the purpose of determining “patterns of life”. “De‐Anonymization of Large Data Sets to Detect/Match Behaviors and Patterns”

They are “Continuously & Always Correlating All Data into the Entity Database” and use cross-intelligence correlation to determine…

-people who are or have been in the same place at the same time

-and/or in a location that may be ‘important’ (or flagged?)

-people tagged as having shared a location with someone else

-people classified to have relationships with others at various points

The IRS has apparently recently assembled a $350 million high-tech tool ‘Neural Network’ which they use as a massive automated parallel computer system that can analyze data from different networks to find irregularities, “suspicious” activities, or unusual behavior patterns.

They sort and screen data in 32,000 categories of metadata and 1 million unique “attributes” while the system “learns” across “neural” networks.

They can quietly create a DNA-like code to understand the economic behavior of any individual.

They, via a Presidential executive order (EO) has “the authority to seize private facilities when necessary, effectively shutting down or limiting civilian communications.”

I could go on and on and on… (feel free to add your input)

It is clear to most Americans that we have devolved into living under a very corrupt government – corruption permeating all branches and all levels. Those who enter the halls of government who remain uninfluenced and uncorrupted are quickly ostracized and demonized – powerless to create effective change for the good of Americans, especially given the main-stream media being in bed with the corrupt system at large.

Is it beyond the point of repair? Are we too far gone?

Does the government fear the people? Or do the people fear the government?
The answer will reveal whether we are already under tyrannical control.

“Freedom is not bestowed upon by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.” -Benjamin Franklin.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Lord Acton.

We have already lost it. Sadly peaceful change is doubtful as elections are rigged and will remain in this corrupt state as long as the Obamamedia equates anti voter fraud measures with racism. The gibsmedats or “useless idiots” numbers are poised to outnumber the producers, and are content to demand more benefits from the shrinking numbers of their benefactors.

Divisions between gender, race, class, and age are designed to keep the rabble more discontented with each other rather than with the government which proclaims to benevolently provide one with their fair share and safety; oh, and an Obamaphone.

Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. – John Adams

This is what comes to forefront for me. By allowing the removal of God from all aspects of life in the public square, it is no surprise we arrive where we are today. I believe that we must re-establish our connection with The God whom our founding fathers spoke of – the One from whom our rights are derived.

Exactly. Too many people have this odd notion that the Founders intended a government ruled by religion. In fact it was the exact opposite that is true. The Founders were very clear and specific when they declared that there should be a separation between chruch and State. Our current issues are a reflection of our leaders not following the original intent of the Constitution.

To snow and eh. You are exactly what the article describes as dumbed down subjects. The constitution doesnt say ,” separation of church and state”. It prevents the state from restricting religion in any way. Your posts are against what the founders said and were quoted in the article. You cant have freedom and liberty when the citizens are immoral. The government will follow the lead of the people whether moral or immoral.

Seems that the ship is listing too far over. The gash in her hull has ripped all the way down her port side and she’s taking on water fast, though the lovely music is still playing up on deck. All must be well.

We must have GOD in what our nation does , if not we are lost , because our nation was founded on religion being one of its cornerstones . As for the tyranny yes it is here , I feel that there will be something of magnitude in the not too distant future that will cause the people to insurrection against the government that has taken advantage of the power given to it by the people , and that has also taken unconstitutional power on its own whim , without any permission from the people . I can’t tell ya’ll what kind of problem or situation could cause this insurrection , but we could sit and debate about it until whatever it is comes about , I do have a feeling that if the gun control bill had passed into law last year ,that we would have already been in the fight , there were just too many folks out there ready for the fight , as what would have happened would have been forced firearm registration , and that would have caused a fight that the communists in the Senate don’t understand would have happened because the mainstream US tax paying citizens are not the type of folks to have the government telling them how to live or what to do , and our backs are almost against the wall and what do people do when they are in a situation such as this they come out fighting , I know that is what I would do ! I feel that this situation with the Bundy’s in Nevada is not over as far as the BLM is concerned , Federal agencies cannot take this kind of setback by the common people , it makes them feel they look weak , and lose the control that they have , something will happen to these folks down the road when all of the backers have left , the government does not nor never has played fair , all they know is to use power and force to control , to me that means tyranny . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .

To which God are you referring? Your God? My God? Some other person’s God?

“… because our nation was founded on religion being one of its cornerstones.”

Actually, no. The nation was founded on the freedom of being able to practice whatever religion you want as long as you’re not hurting anyone else. There’s a reason that church and state were separated when this country was founded. It was because the founders, nearly all of which were religious, knew that it shouldn’t be a factor in steering our government.

Now, if you want to claim that our culture of morality has declined drastically, I’d agree. And I know that for many people, their morality comes from their religion. However, I am not religious and don’t need a support group to tell me what is right and what is wrong. I think my moral compass works just fine, but the great thing is that, because of the freedom enjoyed in this country, you can be moral in your own way and I can be moral in mine.

I pray for it ALL to unravel very soon. There wont be anything as fun like watching millions of those that are unprepared crying and dying pushing the buttons on their smartphones seeking assistance that isnt coming.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Come On Lord Make it Happen , PLEASE !!!!!!

Nailed it. The leading cause of decline in this country is not a poor economy, or this policy or that policy. It’s because there’s a disease called apathy that has infected 99% of Americans. Those in power use it as their most powerful weapon.

Not to move things off topic but people have been misinformed about the separation of church and state for years. The founding fathers meant to keep government out of the CHURCH not the other way around. Just look at the supreme court it is covered in religion on the walls. They used to hold church services at the capitol. Understand that is the reason for the Bill of Rights and Constitution it is based off of biblical principles. Look at the letters and writings of the founding fathers do your own research. I’m not telling you that you are going to hell if your not religious. But learn for yourself what our fathers intended not what drivel has been fed to us.

I’m not forcing religion upon anyone but don’t accept the way the government has tried to twist the meanings of the founding fathers writings. It wasn’t until a supreme court decision last century that “changed” the interpretation of separation of church and state. The farther we drift from religion as a people the less meaning the morals taught by religion have. This process of stripping our rights and changing our government isn’t new it’s been going on for many years and is just now reaching the climax.

It’s beyond the point of no return now on so many levels. The house of cards will come crashing down it’s just a matter of when and who will rebuild it and in what way.

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
-Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Mrs. Samuel H. Smith, August, 6, 1816

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
– George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
-John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

“Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”
-John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88)

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
-James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
-James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical
Endowments

I’ve got a book full of various writings as well. But I will summarize as to the intent of the first amendment was to prevent the federal government from limiting, restricting, regulating or interfering with public religious practices. It was to prevent the federal government from creating a federal establishment of a national denomination and choosing one denomination over another. Even at the time of the founding fathers there were many christian sects.

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In George Washington’s inaugural address to a joint session of Congress Washington declared:

It would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect….No people con be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency…We ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious (favorable) smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and the right which Heaven itself has ordained.

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Ben Franklin addressing George Washington, President of the Convention, on June 28,1787.

…In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarrce able to distinguish it when presented to us, how has it happened, sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights, to illuminate our understanding? In the beginning of the contest with Great Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine protection. Our prayers, sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending Providence in our favor. To that kind Providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have now forgotten that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?

I have lived, sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth – that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the Sacred Writings , that “except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that built it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shal succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel: we shall be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and byword down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing governments by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.

I therefore beg leave to move – that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings be on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate that service.

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Courts of today only publish Jefferson’s eight-word separation phrase, however the Supreme Court in 1878 Reynolds v. United States case published a lengthy section from Jefferson’s letter then concluded:

Coming as it does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it (Jefferson’s letter) may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the Amendment thus secured. Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere (religious) opinion, but was left free to reach actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order.

That Court then succinctly summarized Jefferson’s intent for “separation of church and state”

The rightful purposes of the civil government are for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order. In this…is found the true distinction between what properly belongs to the church and what to the State.

That Court, therefore, and others (for example, Commonwealth v. Nesbit and Lindenmuller v. The People), identified actions into which – if perpetrated in the name of religion – the government did have legitimate reason to intrude. Those activities included human sacrifice, polygamy, bigamy, concubinage, incest, infanticide, parricide, advocation and promotion of immorality etc..

Such acts, even if perpetrated in the name of religion, would be stopped by the government since, as the Court had explained, they were “subversive of good order”. However, the government was never to interfere with traditional religious practices outlined in “The Books of the Law and Gospel”

The current application of the “separation of church and state” metaphor actually represents a relatively recent concept rather than the enforcement of a long standing constitutional principle. This is demonstrated by the fact that the separation idiom appeared in only two cases in the Supreme Court’s first 150 years; yet over the past 50 years, it has been cited in seemingly countless numbers of court decisions. The phrase became the contemporary standard for judiciary policy in 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education. when the court announced:

The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.

Following this declaration, the Supreme Court – and numerous lower courts began striking down religious activities and expressions that had been constitutional for the previous 150 years.

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However, no matter how the Founding Fathers felt about the separation of church and state or the many other amendments that have been trampled – matters little.

Like I stated earlier this house of cards is going to come crashing down in the near future.

This has been a socialist state for many years and we do have a tyrannical government and they are getting geared up with military equipment, and of course the over 800 FEMA camps and millions of plastic caskets that can hold several people depending on their size, and not to leave out the great number of GUILLOTINES that they had made special for us, but the best I can remember is the only reason to have them is to cut the heads off of people. Our politicians are aware of these things but reluctant to inform the people. Firstly they are CORRUPT WITH NO BACK BONE AND/OR THREATENED BUT THAT SHOULDN’T bother them IF THEY ARE A TRUE PATRIOT, be real men, I wouldn’t think our own military would support tyranny after we the people have supported them 100% percent. There is one thing for sure, a soldier doesn’t have to follow an order if it isn’t within the guidelines of our constitution, but if the government is still bent on controlling American people it will become a blood bath and send us into a third world country and at the same time be most vulnerable for attack from several nations, and I feel that they are sitting back laughing and saying to themselves the land of the free and the home of the brave and we will be the first nation to fall, but may god send a terrible wrath on those pagans. Glen Beck told the truth and got fired for it, THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION DESPITE WHAT OBAMA SAYS AND HE IS OUT TO DESTROY IT, X DISABLED VIETNAM VET, may GOD BLESS AMERICA IN THE MOST DESPERATE TIME OF NEED and hope they care for us as we have cared for them.

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government and provide new guards for their future security.”

My neighbor wants to cut my hair. She must first pay “homage” or “tribute” to the government. She graduated from the government school but here, she must turn to the government to get a “license”, that is, to pay homage. Then, when she does cut my hair, Government gets its share of the money I give her. Of course, she paid tribute on the scissors she bought, as well as the gas used to get to the store, and the car, well, its used so she paid taxes on it, and then she pays the government, once per year, to let her drive it. The fuel has its homage, too.

My other neighbor was arrested. She cut hair without paying homage. She then was fined $100 for cutting my hair without government approval, though she was very good at it. She did not pay the fine, but protested. She was sentenced to 10 days in jail and $500 fine. She refused to submit and was forcefully taken away, by men with lethal weapons.

From cradle to grave, the government is “an opinion with a gun” to back it up. Currently, all things Muslim, in spite of its violent mandate (in writing) and its subjugation of women and freedom, is in vogue. Moderate Muslims are like reluctant Nazis….a myth.

What percentage of our income do we really pay the government?
Salary.
Clothes
Fuel
and now our Cesar wants to tax the internet and will keep “hate blogs” off the net. Once the government gets its hands on the internet, the freedom is gone.

Islam is the only religion that mandates conquest by violence. This, itself, should be illegal.

The separation of church and state is so government cannot interfere with the free practice of religion.
Islam is not simply a religion of historical violence; many tyrants have used religion as an excuse for war. Islam, itself, means “order” and is the only major religion that teaches conquest and coercion.

We need to outlaw Islam as against the constitution.

Our war for independence was against tyranny. It was not a “revolution.” France shows us what a “revolution” was. Our forefathers were involved in an armed resistance movement. The Brits called it the “War of the Presbyterians” as Christian ministers not only encouraged members to resist the tyranny (the King refused to stop Parliament from taxing us, making it impossible to provide for our families…with a tax rate WELL below today’s), and even fought, as clergy, with weapons.

We are headed towards another civil war and it may be the Mohammedans that unite Democrats and Republicans as Islam hates not only Jews and Christians, but women and freedom.

Christianity advocates violence too: Read the old testament. Sometimes violence is necessary in life.

The US government is the worst tyranny the wold has ever encountered. No society was ever so harshly ruled by a police state. This should be obvious. The US has over 100,000 criminal laws, 75,000 pages of tax law and endless code, statute and ordinance. Breach any ” one ” and you could be killed by militarized police because you made them afraid. Nazi Germany was not even so bad, so long as you were not Jewish.

The internet is being heavily censored and people are being banned for expressing any opinion contrary to the US government. The government is using sites like discus and others to monitor and censor. Beware.

Badger,
I will have to respectfully disagree with your view of the US government being the worst tyranny the world has ever encountered. Not only do I believe that it is not the worst ever; I don’t believe it’s the worst out there at this moment. In fact, I’m VERY glad that I am a U.S. citizen, and not living in most of the other places in the world. Are there flaws in our country and in our government? Absolutely. What you describe above, though, is not the U.S. I see every day. Do bad things happen? Yes, but rarely enough so that it is news when people find out about it, and not just the day-to-day activities that everyone finds acceptable and normal.

If Trump loses America will fall to Communism. Obama escalated the globalist agenda to destroy the West. His shadow policy maker is Nazi George Soros. Soros also controls Clinton and dictated policy to Clinton when she was inept Secretary of State.
The Republican Congress is traitorous, not opposing Obama’s dictator mandates and gleefully giving Obama what ever he wants. Paul Ryan literally kisses Obama’s arse.
Congress wants to suspend Due Process. Obama is trying to federalize local police forces.
Obama should have been impeached when he used the IRS to go after and punish Conservative groups and people. Congress letting Obama run amok and trash America, her Constitution, and label all who will not accept Communism as tertorists and dangerous is tyranny!

Twitter, Google, Facebook and You Tube, the media are all helping to stamp out our freedoms. Turning Internet control over to Communists is tyranny! Everything Obama has done has violated laws and the Constitution, and Congress has been complicit.

Western Europe is close to Totalitarian Communism and America is not far behind.
Freedom loving American citizens are labeled terrorists, Christians and Whites are labeled dangerous, Whites are being discriminated against throughout the West, colleges are attacking conservative students and shutting them down, Conservatives and gun owners are labeled terrorists, nationalism and populism is being labeled Nazism, and the list is long.

We need a person with leadership skills to organize American citizens who are opposed to what the government is doing. It is imperative.