Whatever DTWL, the fact is the NC has be polling as close the CO has been polling for a while, if you don't want to face the facts I'm sorry. Anyways I also believe NH and MI and NC all need to be grey.

Whatever DTWL, the fact is the NC has be polling as close the CO has been polling for a while, if you don't want to face the facts I'm sorry. Anyways I also believe NH and MI and NC all need to be grey.

Bullmoosee, I understand that and that is why I say alot, that NC is a toss-up right now or PA is lean Obama right now. But I just get sick of people say I'm a hack when I say NC is a toss-up right now.

Bullmoosee, I understand that and that is why I say alot, that NC is a toss-up right now or PA is lean Obama right now. But I just get sick of people say I'm a hack when I say NC is a toss-up right now.

the truth is that NC could go to obama but the Conventional Wisdom is that IF it were to go to Obama, Obama would have won the election by quite a bit. PA, MI, etc. could go to McCain and if only one were to do so, the election might still be close... in other words, it could put mccain over the top. So even if it's unlikely that Mccain win PA, if mccain can eke out victories in many of the true tossups, PA could put him over the top, making it a key battleground. NC, on the other hand is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to put Obama over the top.

So even if Obama's odds of winning NC were similar to MCCain's of winning PA, it's really still less of a true battleground and thus less likely to be called a swing state or a tossup.

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