The Patriots acquired Marsh from the Seattle Seahawks for fifth- and seventh-round picks last September but then waived him in November. Marsh told the Chronicle that he asked to be cut after the Patriots were using him as a "coverage" linebacker instead of having him rush the passer.

"I confronted (Patriots coach Bill Belichick) about all the things that were going on," Marsh told the paper. "I won't get into detail, but it was B.S. things they were doing. I just wasn't a fan. And so I, basically, without asking to get cut, I kind of asked to get cut. ... I had confidence that I would have an opportunity elsewhere and I would take advantage of it."

The Patriots acquired Marsh from the Seattle Seahawks for fifth- and seventh-round picks last September but then waived him in November. Marsh told the Chronicle that he asked to be cut after the Patriots were using him as a "coverage" linebacker instead of having him rush the passer.

"I confronted (Patriots coach Bill Belichick) about all the things that were going on," Marsh told the paper. "I won't get into detail, but it was B.S. things they were doing. I just wasn't a fan. And so I, basically, without asking to get cut, I kind of asked to get cut. ... I had confidence that I would have an opportunity elsewhere and I would take advantage of it."

When Marsh was drafted in 2014, Dan Quinn was still Seattle’s DC and one who backed Marsh’s talent, but Quinn left to become the Atlanta Falcons head coach. While Marsh did say that he enjoyed the culture of the Seahawks organization, but feels like then-defensive coordinator Kris Richard held him back from earning more opportunities to contribute on Seattle’s defensive line.

“I was kind of left with a coach who it was almost like he was almost fighting to keep me off the field,” Marsh said. “I had to really fight and scratch and claw for any opportunities I had.

While I don't expect expect anyone to replace Coach Dan Quinn, I am happy to see someone connected to the front seven at defensive coordinator to balance Coach Pete Carroll's defensive backfield history.

The Patriots acquired Marsh from the Seattle Seahawks for fifth- and seventh-round picks last September but then waived him in November. Marsh told the Chronicle that he asked to be cut after the Patriots were using him as a "coverage" linebacker instead of having him rush the passer.

"I confronted (Patriots coach Bill Belichick) about all the things that were going on," Marsh told the paper. "I won't get into detail, but it was B.S. things they were doing. I just wasn't a fan. And so I, basically, without asking to get cut, I kind of asked to get cut. ... I had confidence that I would have an opportunity elsewhere and I would take advantage of it."

No idea why Belichick was foolish enough to use Marsh in that way. He was awful in coverage.

No idea why Bellicheat was foolish enough to trade for him....

Exactly. Some of the things Belicheat does is quite puzzling. I'm happy he took Marsh off the Seahawks because he probably would have been cut. So they received something for a player that didn't have any value to begin with.

Maybe if Marsh had shown that he was a good pass rusher, he would have been used that way and probably would still be a Seahawk. Seems like a bitter dude who likes to blame circumstances and others rather than look at his own self.

Yeah. Marsh had chances in Seattle and didn't take advantage. Marsh and Coleman are a couple examples that people ignore in those regular assertions that BB wins every trade. Patriot defenses have overachieved based heavily on how inflexible other teams are, but it's been awhile since they truly had a very goo defense.

NINEster wrote:Playing for 3 teams in one year indicates to me the guy is seen as having talent and just in need of the right situation.

He's been in two of the best situations in the NFL, working with two of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I don't think situation has been his issue. I don't think coaches believe that either. Especially the 49ers, who signed him to play in a system he already was mediocre in.

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Going from Surf Board University to the Seahawks he has had a pretty relaxed environment, going to the Pats with a East coast mentality and a Brady / Belichick leadership so to speak may have been a complete culture shock, they are much more cut throat and all about business compared to our we have a business but fun also, Crank up the toons and practice to hits of the 70's today atmosphere. He should have hung out with Gronk a lot more if he wanted fun.

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NINEster wrote:Playing for 3 teams in one year indicates to me the guy is seen as having talent and just in need of the right situation.

He's been in two of the best situations in the NFL, working with two of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I don't think situation has been his issue. I don't think coaches believe that either. Especially the 49ers, who signed him to play in a system he already was mediocre in.

Just because Avril, Bennett, and Clark are ahead of you doesn't mean you're mediocre.

NINEster wrote:Playing for 3 teams in one year indicates to me the guy is seen as having talent and just in need of the right situation.

He's been in two of the best situations in the NFL, working with two of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I don't think situation has been his issue. I don't think coaches believe that either. Especially the 49ers, who signed him to play in a system he already was mediocre in.

Just because Avril, Bennett, and Clark are ahead of you doesn't mean you're mediocre.

And if NE was using him as a coverage LB, then that's on them....

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Nope. Marsh is a role player/special teams player at best and I think that may be a bit generous. Just because he’s wearin’ your favorite color of laundry doesn’t make him good. Honestly was never impressed with him here in Seattle, seriously underwhelming play and he had the knack for boneheaded penalty’s at the wrong time, but hey.... if you think he’s good, don’t let me rain on your parade.

Reading the tea leaves it sounds like he was mostly pissed off that the Patriots asked him to do things that weren't just rushing the passer. Belichick is a jerk, and dropping into coverage sometimes isn't "fun" or something.

He also goes back and forth on taking jabs at the Seahawks (saying he liked it there, but didn't think he got enough opportunity), and says that he thinks if he gets his shot he can be a hall of famer.

Basically the guy just sounds entitled and delusional. I'm rooting for him to break out and actually contribute because he's now on the team I root for, but he comes off like kind of a tool.

chris98251 wrote:Most great players force opportunity to happen because they are great. When a chance come to play they stand out and make the Coaches have to let them stay on the field because of their play.

Yep, take the choice out of the coaches hands by stellar play on the field. Unfortunately, sometimes some coaches are the last to recongnize talent of said individuals. Some coaches are “size queens” and you see them go with size over talent or athleticism due to “conventional thinking” or other biases (see a player’s reputation) over a more talented but maybe smaller in stature player.

You see it all of the time in highschool sports, even baseball. If said player keeps playing at a high level The coaches usually figure it out but sometimes it takes half a season to do so.

Call me crazy but I’d take athleticism and high sports IQ over size any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Many coaches missed on Jose Altuve and Russell Wilson, 2 of the best at their sports.

chris98251 wrote:Most great players force opportunity to happen because they are great. When a chance come to play they stand out and make the Coaches have to let them stay on the field because of their play.

Yep, take the choice out of the coaches hands by stellar play on the field. Unfortunately, sometimes some coaches are the last to recongnize talent of said individuals. Some coaches are “size queens” and you see them go with size over talent or athleticism due to “conventional thinking” or other biases (see a player’s reputation) over a more talented but maybe smaller in stature player.

You see it all of the time in highschool sports, even baseball. If said player keeps playing at a high level The coaches usually figure it out but sometimes it takes half a season to do so.

Call me crazy but I’d take athleticism and high sports IQ over size any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Many coaches missed on Jose Altuve and Russell Wilson, 2 of the best at their sports.

I agree with you but I don't think the coaches have a chance to recognize so they look at college ball as the players opportunity. In today's NFL it's 'win now, cuz if you haven't shown it yet I don't have time to sit around and wait for it'.

NINEster wrote:Playing for 3 teams in one year indicates to me the guy is seen as having talent and just in need of the right situation.

He's been in two of the best situations in the NFL, working with two of the best defensive minds in the NFL. I don't think situation has been his issue. I don't think coaches believe that either. Especially the 49ers, who signed him to play in a system he already was mediocre in.

They did that because they didn't have anything remotely close to a Leo on the roster, and he was available. They added Attaochu, and are going to give Eli Harold a chance to play on the end during nickle situations, but basically, all their pass rushers were interior pass rushers, so they took a flier on him.

And, unsurprisingly, he did pretty good compared to the garbage they had at the position at the time.

Sports Hernia wrote:Mayfield has grown on me a bit, but I disagree with him here.

If an employer fires/terminates me, why do I owe them any sort of “loyalty”?