Aww.. Typo, can anybody change 663 - 463. It is very much appreciated. ^^ BF help... Ooops.. NVM did figure it out myself.
I guess there is no way to edit the Title of the thread, I thought I've change it already, seems like it just change the title above.

Anyway so Naruto is a descendant of the 1st and Sasuke is the descendant of Madara, history repeats itself indeed, but I think its time that Naruto will change that;I guess in a matter of time, If not then there is no point of creating Naruto Manga as NARUTO. Got it?

09-04-2009, 02:28 AM

Bledge

Woooh I didn't think it would come out Thursday. Good news :)

Once again, it's difficult to say what is true or invented by Madara in his speech.
One can say he's only telling a myth and manipulates it to fit the current events. But it's shonen.

I'm afraid of the hole in the chest of Juugo, there.

The shadow was MS genjutsu of Sasuke, and no Kuybi :D

09-04-2009, 02:31 AM

The Witcher

Nice chapter overall, and I have a lot to say about it.

1)Once again, a major event/legend of the ninja world has become linked to the Uchiha and Senju. This just too unrealistic; first the main villain arose from the rivalry, then all the Bijuu apparently belonged to Senju, and now we learn that even the Great Sage was an ancestor of the Uchiha and Senju and the reason for Sasuke's hatred. Everything that happened between Naruto and Sasuke was purely due to their own choices, why cheapen that with this 'destined to be rivals' crap?

2)'I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you.' Maybe it's just the translation, but I find this line to imply something deeper than it seems. Could Naruto be a descendant of the Senju through his father(Minato's mother??)?

3)The Raikage's toast. One of his lackeys is down and the other is marked for death(Suigetsu wants his sword). And Sasuke's got no more reason to continue this fight now that he's established his 'hatred path' or whatever. If he doesn't go down with this Chidori, it'll be the Mangekyou for him.

4)Looks like Kishi realized he'd made his 'Sasuke chakra monster' too similar to the Kyuubi and changed its appearance. But I feel the whole Monster-shadow- background thing to emphasize a character's anger/insanity is too overdone.

There are only two things that puzzle me.

A)Were the two brothers the Rokudo's sons or were they simply chosen by him to carry on his legacy and blessed with his powers? The text isn't clear on that regard. And if they were his sons, why did the elder brother clearly have a Sharingan when he supposedly inherited Rokudo's eyes?

B)Sasuke's genjutsu seemed to be a regular Sharingan thing but did anyone notice he was covering his eye in the next panel? Could this is what that 'exploit fearful hearts' MS jutsu really looks like?

Any opinions here?

09-04-2009, 02:38 AM

black flash

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Originally Posted by s*h*i*n*t*a

Anyway so Naruto is a descendant of the 1st and Sasuke is the descendant of Madara, history repeats itself indeed, but I think its time that Naruto will change that;I guess in a matter of time, If not then there is no point of creating Naruto Manga as NARUTO. Got it?

Naruto isn't a descendant of the 1st he just has the "Will Of Fire" passed down from the 1st.
Naruto is definitely getting interesting and the fight between Naruto & Sasuke is gonna be epic.

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Originally Posted by The Witcher

4)Looks like Kishi realized he'd made his 'Sasuke chakra monster' too similar to the Kyuubi and changed its appearance. But I feel the whole Monster-shadow- background thing to emphasize a character's anger/insanity is too overdone.

I dont think Kishi realized anything many people including myself said that it doesn't look like and is not the kyuubi from the beginning, now that it's seen up close and from another angle it is clear that it is not the Kyuubi. Sometimes people just see what they wanna see.

09-04-2009, 02:45 AM

R3dKnight

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Originally Posted by The Witcher

1)Once again, a major event/legend of the ninja world has become linked to the Uchiha and Senju. This just too unrealistic; first the main villain arose from the rivalry, then all the Bijuu apparently belonged to Senju, and now we learn that even the Great Sage was an ancestor of the Uchiha and Senju and the reason for Sasuke's hatred. Everything that happened between Naruto and Sasuke was purely due to their own choices, why cheapen that with this 'destined to be rivals' crap?

lol.

as the same with Konoha ruling all over the other ninja villages in terms of Ninja Skills and expert
now it's the Uchiha and Senju who ruled the ancient Ninja History
Konoha also had the first astronauts and stuff if you don't know XD

09-04-2009, 03:21 AM

Bledge

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Originally Posted by The Witcher

Nice chapter overall, and I have a lot to say about it.

3)The Raikage's toast. One of his lackeys is down and the other is marked for death(Suigetsu wants his sword). And Sasuke's got no more reason to continue this fight now that he's established his 'hatred path' or whatever. If he doesn't go down with this Chidori, it'll be the Mangekyou for him.

There are only two things that puzzle me.

A)Were the two brothers the Rokudo's sons or were they simply chosen by him to carry on his legacy and blessed with his powers? The text isn't clear on that regard. And if they were his sons, why did the elder brother clearly have a Sharingan when he supposedly inherited Rokudo's eyes?

B)Sasuke's genjutsu seemed to be a regular Sharingan thing but did anyone notice he was covering his eye in the next panel? Could this is what that 'exploit fearful hearts' MS jutsu really looks like?

Any opinions here?

3) I don't think Raikage's gonna die, at least on that battle.
Well, if he dies, we'll see a rematch between Killerbee and Sasuke ^^

A) I agree with you, it's not clear. Contrary to the spoiler BF gave us, where it was translated they were both sons of Rikudou Senin, it's not meant there. Still they are called "Brothers".
What are Japanese words there? Because I recall you can call "brother" or "sister" a close acquaintance with no blood ties ^^

B) That's what I assumed too. MS genjutsu since he feels eyes pain

09-04-2009, 03:57 AM

goldencalf

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Originally Posted by Madara

He chose it himself

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Originally Posted by Madara

He had no choice

Rotfl.

Also, i hate that destiny crap.
One of the big things in Part 1 was about how predestined fate is a bullshit, and how genius successors of ancient clans can be beaten by dropouts.
Conclusion was that everyone makes their own fate, through ones decissions and actions.

And now we got a fuckin child of prophecy and uchiha's destiny.

09-04-2009, 04:03 AM

ivanov_2020

sorry to say this... i know the first hokage no longer has any decendant (well except for yamato.... but he is only a wierd type clone) but could it possible that uzumaki clan is like a decendant of senjuu that just never been talk about (like a decendant from hashirama's bastardchild :p).... just spilling out my mind.....

another thing that i want to spill out.... imagin if itachi's crow comes out of naruto's eye now and turn into amaterasu then burn madara to death...then the only bad guy left is naruto world is sasuke

09-04-2009, 04:19 AM

kidistight

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Witcher

2)'I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you.' Maybe it's just the translation, but I find this line to imply something deeper than it seems. Could Naruto be a descendant of the Senju through his father(Minato's mother??)?

3)The Raikage's toast. One of his lackeys is down and the other is marked for death(Suigetsu wants his sword). And Sasuke's got no more reason to continue this fight now that he's established his 'hatred path' or whatever. If he doesn't go down with this Chidori, it'll be the Mangekyou for him.

A)Were the two brothers the Rokudo's sons or were they simply chosen by him to carry on his legacy and blessed with his powers? The text isn't clear on that regard. And if they were his sons, why did the elder brother clearly have a Sharingan when he supposedly inherited Rokudo's eyes?

B)Sasuke's genjutsu seemed to be a regular Sharingan thing but did anyone notice he was covering his eye in the next panel? Could this is what that 'exploit fearful hearts' MS jutsu really looks like?

Any opinions here?

So do you think that Minato is the daughter of the first? Do you think he will really loose to just Sasuke, since Suigetsu is tied up right now in a fight. I was also wondering if they were his son's or just some random ninja that became his students. I was wondering why he was covering his eye from just a simple genjutsu.

09-04-2009, 04:24 AM

camey

i pretty believe that madara see naruto as hashirama
not saying that naruto is hashirama's bloodline..

was it tsukuyomi?which eye that sasuke gain amaterasu from itachi?left right?then right is tsukuyomi..lol