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In a post last year there was talk about running hoosiers,maybe that is the way to go,or we spend lots of money trying different tires, just thought I would throw that out there, any help would be very appreciated thanks........

Hoosier Tires are not the way to go. This division is set for rookies and lower end racers. Hoosiers are $85 per tire. Champiros are what some of the top running A cars are running that dont have any more Sumos.

Brad, the hoosier WOULD be the way to go if people would realize it's only a slight investment for a tire that lasts much longer. People see it as a race tire and FREAK so it won't be welcome at Spartan. Once you race on it this summer at SMS you'll understand it's pros far outweigh the cons.

Maurice, I haven't raced on the T4 but my sister did put a set on her VW Bug. They wern't nearly as soft as the HTR200 on the durometer (I don't remember how far off but it was very noticeable) I can't say anything about their on track performance but would probably buy a set to at least try.

Kdog, last year Wayne Beckner was running the Champiro GT and they didn't seem to affect his times. Other drivers were using them and liked them very much. I had a few drivers tell me without being shaved they did not last nearly as long and were prone to chunking on the RF. The Sumo would do the same thing to me without being shaved, others never had a problem.

My father and I were lucky enough to have enough Sumos to last the season last year. Had we ran out I would have ran the Champiro GT after seeing how well Wayne ran on them!!_________________Metz Racing #79
Team Beacon
Never Dead Racing
2010 and 2011 Pony stock Track Champion
15.23 Fastest FWD lap ever at Spartan on fun night.
15.872 Fastest pony stock lap during the season.

Thanks for the info, coming from 5yrs in quarter midgets and 3yrs in mini cup I have no info on dot tires,we have only ran racing tires,,,,just makes sence hoosiers $85 dot tire $50-$60 plus having them shaved ...... Next ? Iam in bay city no one here shaves tires,where can I get them done? Thanks...

I can help you out with the tire shaving._________________Metz Racing #79
Team Beacon
Never Dead Racing
2010 and 2011 Pony stock Track Champion
15.23 Fastest FWD lap ever at Spartan on fun night.
15.872 Fastest pony stock lap during the season.

sorry to bring this back up,,, 4 different stores the cheapest price I can find on the Champiro GT is $64.00 then to have them shaved, So I called my hoosier guy (that I have used for 5 years) he said the hoosier 790 tires are $80.00 and they will last a lot longer... so from a entry level stand point (pony stock) it would be more cost efficient to run the hoosier, after all this is a RACE CAR they should run racing tires, and leave the DOT tires for the streets, just my opinion but rules are rules so I will pay more for a less grade tire and replace them more often, oh well we are looking forward to a great and fun year...

The idea behind keeping DOT tires is not so much that they are better or worse than switching over to a 790 tire but the fact that it will still keep the class better for the guy who wants to race but can't afford $320+ for a set of racing tires.

The guy with no money can put cheap old used tires on his car and still race. He doesn't care because he runs in the back anyway.

The more backmarkers there are, the better off the class will be. 20 extra backmarkers makes for a pretty darn good C main. And they will all have a lot of fun and race well together.

The class has been picking up quite well over the past couple of seasons. Switch to a racing tire and it will fade away in one season.

Put the old KCar on a racing tire and the Neons won't stand a chance. The car with the most torque off the corner will be the winner.

You should pick up the old girl and come out to SMS with it!! It would be fun to see it with someone who knows how to tune and drive it!_________________Metz Racing #79
Team Beacon
Never Dead Racing
2010 and 2011 Pony stock Track Champion
15.23 Fastest FWD lap ever at Spartan on fun night.
15.872 Fastest pony stock lap during the season.