so, you make a ytmnd, noone really likes it, so you go and make a new username and then donate money to the site? You're a failure zer0hue. And to the person asking, it says "Hive minded individuals-".

yeah, IMO you guys chose a bad name. "hive-minded individuals" has a certain meaning, and it's not usually a term people use to refer to themselves in a positive way. You guys seem smart enough to know what the term usually means and how it will be perceived, so yeah it's a bad name. Sorry if I'm spoiling your mystery

People keep saying that "HIVEMINDEDINDIVIDUALS" refers to the ytmnd populace. However, this account is named HiveMindedIndividuals. Saying that it is not referring to itself is akin to saying that a guy named Ted running around screaming, "TED TED TED TED TED" is calling everyone around him Ted. "That bastard just called me Ted, I'm going to f*cking kill him." Maybe I'm just thinking rationally, though. Either way, you're a f*cking Ted.

^ "People keep saying that "HIVEMINDEDINDIVIDUALS" refers to the ytmnd populace. However, this account is named HiveMindedIndividuals. Saying that it is not referring to itself is akin to saying that a guy named Ted running around screaming, "TED TED TED TED TED" is calling everyone around him Ted." ... the site title is also named "TED." When there are so many TED'S around, people are going to start thinking their name is TED too.

George Foreman has like 9 sons named George. When he says George, he could be talking about any of hi 9 sons or himself, but I don't ever get confused into thinking that I am George. That's just silly. I'm Ted.

Y'kno, I didn't really get what this was all about, and I didn't bother trying. Just watched it long enough to tell what the letters in the center spelled. I assumed it was just some random sh*t put together, with no real purpose or point.

ART SITES MAKE ME SO MAD. I WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING AGAINST A WALL. AND I WANT THE WALL TO BREAK. AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO STOP MAKING ART SITES. I AM SO ANGRY. GOD, I'M ANGRY. AHHHHH. WHY WON'T THEY STOP? THESE SITES ARE RUINING MY LIFE. I CAN'T EVEN GO OUTSIDE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY ART SITES IN HERE. THEY MAKE ME SO ANGRY I JUST WANT TO BREAK THINGS. AND I WANT THE WALL TO BREAK. BREAK I TELL YOU BREAK. SO ANGRY.

Insanity: put 2 and 2 together. The image and sound source came from another YTMND- the creator of THAT YTMND donated to this one- 10 dollars to be exact. Does that not give you a clue as to who likely posted. Shiratski: No, certainly it is not. But then again, Deviantart doesn't let you use sound either. AoC: Don't think of it as a repost- think of it as a showcase.

THIS SITE SUCKS OH MY GOD KILL IT IT'S SO BAD LET'S VOTE 1 UNTIL IT GETS UNSPONSORED DUE TO LOW VOTES OMG IT IS SO STOLEN FROM THE PLACE THAT IT LINKS TO THAT I NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEN HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THIS SITE OMG LET'S LEAVE COMMENTS THAT MAKE US LOOK RETARDED ON THIS SITE WHEN THINGS CHANGE AND EVERYTHING WE SAY BECOMES IRRELEVENT.

Okay, here's an idea. Maybe it's a new fad. The fad in itself being people who can't think for themselves. What better way to not think for yourself than to post the exact same thing? The whole fad consists of every single ytmnd user to make a ytmnd of this exact same thing and post the origins from the ytmnd you took them from. Sounds like genious to me...

Yes we all emulate ROY4L. In fact, anyone who doesn't make fad related YTMNDs emulates ROY4L. Also, the unfunnyness is the quality I, personally, aim for. I figure that a moving animation is much more unfunny and boring than a pure black background. I was actually hoping that would be an obvious joke, but people LOVE to see sh*tty blank webpages with assorted obvious and overused jokes about blind people or black people. Pitiful.

1'd for Dr-L337ing the site. Sponsorship is not renting space on the main page, sponsoring is so that people can sponsor a YTMND they think new people to the site should see or they are so good they need permanent front page status. It's not a place for you to make a YTMND and change it whenever you want.

hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks. hiveminded garbage.

"Sponsorship is not renting space on the main
page, sponsoring is so that people can sponsor a YTMND they think new
people to the site should see or they are so good they need permanent front
page status. It's not a place for you to make a YTMND and change it
whenever you want." Actually, it is. You can tell this because we did it. Sponsorhip is in fact renting space on the main page so that you can do whatever the hell we want with it, so long as max approves. Max approved. Next question.

"except they aren't renting, they are buying. it's a one time payment." We "bought" the space for a given period of time, which is to say that we rented it. Unless when you make a one time payment for use of a snowboard and bindings for a limited period of time when you go to the mountains you somehow think that this is buying. In most circles this is called renting.

"hiveminded garbage. whatever the message is no cares and this site sucks." That's awfully pretentious of you, thinking that there's a message here. I don't want you to vote for Cheney for president, and I don't want you to elect Jon Stewart, either. I don't want you to make lots of honey and sent it to max. No, I'm pretty sure this is a way for people to check out sites they wouldn't normally see. Maybe they'll even like the sites. If they don't, then at least we tried.

Think of this as our own up and coming, only without the algorithm or sh*tty sites. Or, think of it as something else that will make you happy. Think of it as a site dedicated solely to you, whoever you are, if that makes your ego feel good. I don't really care. If you think the sole purpose of this is to make your life miserable, then you're probably a bit paranoid. This is for your benefit and can't be of any cost to you that you didn't impose on yourself. It's aesthetics, not torture.

"We bought the space for a given period of time, which is to say that we rented it. Unless when you make a one time payment for use of a snowboard and bindings for a limited period of time when you go to the mountains you somehow think that this is buying. In most circles this is called renting." let's say you bought a car, oh wait, you just rented it for your lifetime. I said bought because so far these sponsored sites have been indefinite.

^ "Think of this as our own up and coming, only without the algorithm or sh*tty sites." ... do you think the sites on U&C right now are sh*tty, or do you think that in general the sites on U&C are sh*tty?

In a little while, these votes aren't going to mean anything anyways. When max is finished the new site creator/updater, your votes and views will reset each time you update the picture and sound. :/ The goal of this isn't popularity- it's exposure. God forbid that one slot on the recently sponsored be used for something other than quenching the thirsts of pedophiles, or that idiotic re-post of the Cosby Bebop (which I can already hardly stand).

"let's say you bought a car, oh wait, you just rented it for your
lifetime." Actually you still own it when you die. Ownership typically gets passed on to someone else who has a legal right to your estate. Honestly, it's not that difficult to understand the difference.

"... do you think the sites on U&C right now are sh*tty, or
do you think that in general the sites on U&C are sh*tty?" Quality control. Yes, there are always sh*tty sites on U&C if you take sh*tty to mean whatever it is I want it to mean which is typically how the word is used. I would typically use it to mean unoriginal and rehashed, and there's always plenty of that. Also, gimmick accounts. Can't argue with gimmick accounts. Yes, sh*t does get on U&C. No, max don't have time to fix everything.

^ "No, max don't have time to fix everything." ... sh*t that gets on U&C gets voted onto U&C. IOW, it doesn't suck to most voters. For all the thousands of sites made every day, those are the users' favorite new ones. How would max fix that?

Gimmick accounts. Also, 20% is all it takes to prevent something from making U&C. The downvoters wield all the power due to a slanted voting scheme. If 20% don't like something, it has no chance. That's not a fair system. Also, gimmick accounts. 20%. Gimmick accounts. 20%. Gimmick accounts. Fox News would consider this fair and balanced.

I'm pretty sure this is a way for people to check out sites
they wouldn't normally see. Maybe they'll even like the sites. If they
don't, then at least we tried.I'm pretty sure this is a way for people to check out sites
they wouldn't normally see. Maybe they'll even like the sites. If they
don't, then at least we tried. Try, not cry. Try.

^ "20%. Gimmick accounts." ... yo soy what would you do about gimmick accounts? ... re: downvoters have the power, I disagree. Only the top rated sited make U&C, and if you think the top ones don't get some downvotes you're kidding yourself. it takes 20% to keep something from making U&C, well even if that's true it takes 80% to make U&C. Those sites you don't like get that 80% from somewhere, is it gimmick upvoters? ...

... and the 20% figure is not right. Up & Coming isn't the sites with a score of 4 or better, it's the sites with the highest average votes. Ranked by the rating. The sites that the users vote the best are the ones that get there.

Actually 20% is a figure independent of anything else. If 20% of ytmnd happens to be narvists who do not vote on merit but use it as a tool to further their own selfish agendas then 20% can keep anything off the U&C. Period. No matter what it is. It just so happens that a certain type of person is more inclined to be a narvist, and if you don't believe this then you're living in a cave. There is a popular anti-intellectualism in our society and it clearly manifests itself here.

If you were to check the average intelligence level of a narvist voter you would see a statistically significant inverse relation between likelihood to be a narvist and intelligence. It's not surprising. Little kids vote this way by nature because they're highly irrational and have no concept of perspective or integrity.

I do live in a cave actually, but it has wi-fi. " If 20% of ytmnd happens to be narvists who do not vote on merit but use it as a tool to
further their own selfish agendas then 20% can keep anything off the U&C." ... so the 20% figure you're using is the number you came up with to represent the amount of people who don't vote what they really think a site deserves? ..."There is a popular anti-intellectualism in our society and it clearly manifests itself here." ... welcome to ytmnd.

and yes, 20% is not an exact figure but it just so happens that this is the average needed to keep something off. Regardless, 30% will guarantee something of never seeing the U&C given that it receives only 5's from everyone else (an unrealistic assumption) and this is clearly not representative of the population.

keep going. keep saying how much smarter you are than most of the other users here. do all of the other guys on your team feel the same way? ... btw, in case anyone thinks I'm trying to start sh*t... I guess I am. But Kork41 is one of my favorite site creators here, and I did donate to this site.

http://wiki.ytmnd.com/Weighted_Voting : Yes, it is realized as a problem. No, it is not easily solved and no, there will not be a solution reached by way of algorithm on a free site. Just not going to happen by way of algorithm. There are other ways. As a result of this unbalanced system, we are trying this method to let people view sites they wouldn't otherwise. By taking time to vote you hint at the likely probability that you don't understand the point of this exercise.

^ "By taking time to vote you hint at the likely probability that you don't understand the point of this exercise." ... so anyone that voted, what, a 3 or less doesn't understand the point? So if 20% vote ones (downvote), then how many percent vote 3 or less?

Taking what is said and extending it is never an honest thing to do. I said anyone who voted. This site doesn't need votes. It's here by way of donations, it is not meant to be voted on. It is merely a way of showing other sites. It is not to be acknowledged for anything other than a way of getting to something else. It is a means, not an end. For your own enjoyment. I'm not trying to start sh*t, I'm defending from libel. If only your position had the same integrity.

Call me whatever you want, just don't libel. Korf Kork Kock C*ck Frok Fork wtf do I care just don't say that I said something that I didn't and don't present assumptions, conjecture, and speculation as fact. I've speculated, but I don't need to speculate on the simple truths like a minority voting system and the intentions of this project (I know, I discussed them, I've read them, I am still an active part of them).

Oh, and if you're going to act like you're on a high horse because you've donated... I'd take an honest argumetn over a donation any day. Any day. You always have the right to say whatever you want, but donating doesn't make your arguments any more honest. This is here for your benefit and it is here because of a perception on our part of inquities in the current system. If this is a problem for you then you can talk about it, but don't make it out to be something it isn't.

"Oh, and if you're going to act like you're on a high horse because you've donated" ... I only said that so anyone besides you wouldn't think that I'm trying to pick a fight with you. I donated to this site because I want to see good sites by you and your team. I think other people would like them too. I did NOT donate to this site because I think you and your team are better than other people. Or smarter. Or more talented. My horse is high becasue he smkes weed, and that's his own business.

Also if you want to get into basic voting theory... the type of voting system affects the ranking of sites. Sites that are overly downvoted (overly upvoted isn't as influential because of the disparity between the rate required to make U&C and the value of the upvote... roughly 4 and exactly 5) would rank better in a binary voting system (pass/fail, thumb up/down etc.) than in the current system. Thus, to say that it is representative not only isn't true but shouldn't be true.

nice site, Ted. I like it. honestly. I just don't like seeing people get so angry about ytmnd. it seems like a waste of energy to me, and I want you to spend your time making sites instead. You're the man now, dog