When Scalfari asked the pope to elaborate, he explained that God is universal, and Catholicism is merely a way of worshipping him.

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The pope added that Vatican view neglects the rest of the world, and that the church should return to being a community of God’s people, priests, pastors and bishops who care for souls.

This is not the first time Pope Francis has admitted to more liberal opinions than his predecessors. Since his inauguration he has encouraged atheists to let God forgive them, and condemned the church for fixating on issues like homosexuality and contraception.

“We have to find a new balance,” he said. “Otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards.”