11th Gen Corolla (Hornet): An Unlucky Affair

Introducing Corolla GLi 1.3 (Super ECT)
Asalamoalikum respected PakWheel members and guests. Alhamdolillah, Allah has blessed me with this brand new car after I let Viper go to its next handler and keeper, after a very satisfying experience of a little over four years. With blessing from Allah (S.W) and friends like you, I hope to make this is a no-nonsense, extremely informative and enjoyable thread just like Viper. This cannot be possible without your support, appreciation, critique, guidance, sharing and participation. So hop in, like and subscribe.

And yes, with all my heart and integrity I will honestly tell you reasons for non-satisfaction. Do not expect any cover ups or sugar coating. Plain and simple truth. This will be in a review form and I wish more people read it and learn a lesson.

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BOL for sale.

GLI 1.3 Auto is still a hot cake with a turn around time from the dealer ship of around 4 months.

hope your car sells fast and quick with "OWN" money . No offense to any one this is expected brothers.

Well this was expected when you switch infact downgrade from Viper and get a GLi AT
90 % of the ppl who dispose off their 8th gen civics have 2 main reasons
Either they are tired of their manual tranny civics or they want to maintain their status since Reborn is an old car now
9th gen Civic beats it in terms of comfort fuel avg and interior layout but still 8th gen is better than 9th gen in most aspects
Same goes for Corolla vs 8th gen civic
I think it would have been much better if you had searched for a clean 2012 VTi Oriel Prosmatec 8th gen civic since manual transmission was the main problem in your case
But still , you have kept new corolla too and the car can fetch easily above control price the best thing about GLi
You can get a better car now
I know what you are missing
Driving pleasure
If you really need driving pleasure go for 8th gen civic again in auto transmission or try to get some thing imported now Honda Vezel if you have that budget because Local Honda City Corolla or 9th Gen Civic all are plain n boring if you have kept a legendary car like 8th gen civic in terms of pleasure and feel behind the wheel
May ALLAH PAK bless you

Sir I need that gear knob
For how much can i get it
Achi si price bata dein 25 percent depreciation k saath
Haha

I have posted this before but posting again to help you in choosing your variant in Corolla.

1.Altis 1.6 has alloys, nav ready infotainment system, Hi Grade fabric seats as mentioned on indus website (Please see),Extra two color Super White and Bronze Mica if you want to opt that and above all dual VVTI 1598cc bigger Engine. you can get after market alloys, infotainment system in the price range of 90k (125k-90k= 35k) but you cant replace 1.3 engine to 1.6 engine in 35k. Price difference between 1.3 Gli A/T and 1.6 Altis A/T is 125k.

2.It has dual VVTI engine as compared to Single VVTI engine in GLI A/T. As coated by our brother @ausbii

A. The engine on the 1.6 is not just bigger, it's newer and more efficient both in terms of fuel consumption and power output. NZ-FE(1.3)VVTI series vs ZR-FE(1.6)Dual VVTI.

B. The transmission on both is 4 speed super ECT but it's not the same. The 1.6 has an Aisin Warner (one of the worlds top transmission manufacturer) A341E original japanese transmission. The 1.3 has a toyota U341e which to the best of my Knowledge is from Thailand. The A341E is much smoother and more reliable. Also to consider is that the u341e is designed for 1.5l engines, not 1.3. It has a first gear ratio almost 1.5 times that of the first in manual gli and a second gear ratio equal to what would be a 2.75 gear of the manual while the third is equal to the fourth on the manual. That is why the 1.3 gli AT is significantly slow off the mark as compared to the gli manual. AT is always slightly slower than manual but the difference is quite significant here. The same specs go to the advantage of the 1.6 as the more powerful engine utilizes the lager gear ratios for a more rapid off the mark acceleration and even slightly better fuel economy than the competitions slower 5 speed with a 100cc smaller engine.

3.I do not believe that 1.3 Gli is an underpowered car . Many pakwheeler friends are satisfied with their power (you can see @fouadbakht bhai and @aliusman420 bhai thread . I didn't drive 1.3 Gli A/T 11 gen but i thing 1.6 drive will be more joyful as compared to 1.3 drive due to their gear ratio.

almost all auto transmissions (talking about 3-5 speed ones) have longer gear ratios than their manual counter parts for same engines and cars. i.e. a car that red lines its 2nd gear at 80 kph, its auto version would do above 100 in 2nd gear.

@Thinking I have gone this road. But did it only with low beams because had hid in high beam.
Few months later HID burned off and I replaced them with stock toyota bulbs.. few months later narvas burned off as well. And when you switch you see a placebo effect that its better but when you switch back you know... it was not.

Come on bhai jaan shukar karay Allah ka.. why such a dramatic thread title it gives a feeling your car was stolen or something.

Secondly civic owners will never fall in love with a corolla no matter what.

Sorry Sir
But I dont agree
I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
Both are equally good family sedans
After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
And will always lead in sales because of this factor
Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
Just like fouad bhai said
Civic is in his DNA

Sorry Sir
But I dont agree
I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
Both are equally good family sedans
After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
And will always lead in sales because of this factor
Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
Just like fouad bhai said
Civic is in his DNA

Bro I agree with you in every sense but plz consider his car is 1.3 Gli and your is 1.6 Altis (huge differece

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Sorry Sir
But I dont agree
I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
Both are equally good family sedans
After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
And will always lead in sales because of this factor
Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
Just like fouad bhai said
Civic is in his DNA

For a family sedan,Axio or Premio are much better than over priced Gli. Or you can always get a hatch for family.