@fuji
, srs question. How were your lifts, relative to bw, before you started on the celltech? Had you hit a hard plateau or something? Just curious.

Squatted mid 300s, deadlifted 455, but I only benched like 200ish at 180 or so. Yeah I was bored and I hadn't progressed in a while.

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Originally Posted by Evolve

This doesn't make sense. If anything, back needs more variety than chest. Think about how many muscles comprise the back vs. chest: back is lats, traps, infraspinatus, teres major, rhomboids, rear delts, serratus... and that's not even counting the neck and lower back muscles. Chest, on the other hand, is just pecs.

Think about all the different back movements.... vertical vs. horizontal, close grip vs. wide grip, in between, straight-arm, etc. At least twice as many as chest movements.

Fuji, you're the stereotypical idiot who has no clue what they're talking about, and got on the gear way before reaching anything close to your natural potential. I have no respect for you, and you contribute nothing to this thread. You're also very weak considering you're on dat der pasta. Go back to studying your special ed coursework.

Dat russlement, my special ed coursework not that I do coursework because I'm quant as fuck has me getting paid $1.6k a week for my summer job and I'll get into whatever masters I want. I don't really consider a low 500s deadlift to be that weak, but ok. Why so angry lately? What do you contribute? Whilst I'm not strictly a powerlifter my goals are fairly powerlifting based hence why I squat so often.

Squatted mid 300s, deadlifted 455, but I only benched like 200ish at 180 or so. Yeah I was bored and I hadn't progressed in a while.
Dat russlement, my special ed coursework not that I do coursework because I'm quant as fuck has me getting paid $1.6k a week for my summer job and I'll get into whatever masters I want. I don't really consider a low 500s deadlift to be that weak, but ok. Why so angry lately? What do you contribute? Whilst I'm not strictly a powerlifter my goals are fairly powerlifting based hence why I squat so often.

I don't even know what this means. But keep doin' what yo' doin. And gettin that "degree" with all the time and meds you need for tests. There's a reason my ancestors did what they did...

This doesn't make sense. If anything, back needs more variety than chest. Think about how many muscles comprise the back vs. chest: back is lats, traps, infraspinatus, teres major, rhomboids, rear delts, serratus... and that's not even counting the neck and lower back muscles. Chest, on the other hand, is just pecs.

Think about all the different back movements.... vertical vs. horizontal, close grip vs. wide grip, in between, straight-arm, etc. At least twice as many as chest movements.

Fuji, you're the stereotypical idiot who has no clue what they're talking about, and got on the gear way before reaching anything close to your natural potential. I have no respect for you, and you contribute nothing to this thread. You're also very weak considering you're on dat der pasta. Go back to studying your special ed coursework.

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First of all, chill the fuck out.

Second of all, you hit most of your back muscles with a good selection of compound movements. Any kind of pulling you do hits your lats, and different kinds hit your rear delts, lower traps, rhomboids etc. The little RC muscles do need some iso work but not a ton. Traps get hit with deadlifts and any kind of shoulder press. So you don't need to do a hundred movements to build a strong back. I didn't.

Third of all some people have naturally strong backs and don't need to do a ton of volume on them to grow. I haven't deadlifted in months and I could walk into the gym now, warm up and pull 4 plates for 2-3 reps no problem. I was hitting 7x145 on dumbbell rows.

I think the idiot is someone who doesn't realize simple shit, like different people have different natural strengths and goals. And the person who shouldn't be respected is the person who uses that lack of understanding to be disrespectful. JMOEdited by Cool The Kid - 6/18/14 at 4:48am

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