updated 08:55 am EDT, Tue October 16, 2007

Leopard up for pre-order

After a brief downtime on Tuesday, the Apple Store has been put back online with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, which is now available for pre-order. The latest version of the core Mac operating system costs $129 for a single user or $199 in a "family pack," and should ship October 26th; customers who pre-order now will receive free shipping. The software introduces a number of new features to the Mac OS, among them Time Machine file recovery, stacked Dock icons, and the integration of Cover Flow into the Finder system browser. Users can also divide their desktop into separate "Spaces," and run Boot Camp without a separate download. An Intel or PowerPC G4 Mac is required, with a minimum of a 867MHz processor, 512MB of RAM, and a DVD drive.

Oh yeah

Education Pricing

It used to be $69 now it is $116. Not much of an education discount with Apple products these days. I guess we are lucky to even have a discount since most companies don't offer any kind of edu. discount to begin with.

It is my understanding...

...that the packaging contains chinchilla fur and fetus material. The disc itself is made from PVC's and whale meat. The circle of the disc incorporates symbolism that makes people want to pray in public schools while at the same time the X on the front is a throwback to Jim Crow laws.
This means someone other than Greenpeace is finally going to be offended. Thank Buddah!

come on MacNn

This is the best you can do on Leopard features?

The software introduces a number of new features to the Mac OS, among them Time Machine file recovery, stacked Dock icons, and the integration of Cover Flow into the Finder system browser. Users can also divide their desktop into separate "Spaces," and run Boot Camp without a separate download.

OMG, STACKED dock icons! Now, for those who loathe the dock, more to loathe about it!

And CoverFlow in the Finder! Yes! Because we spend all our time in the Finder wanting to search for a file, know exactly what it looks like! Great for all those papers that have the same title page!

And, get this! You can run Boot Camp WITHOUT A SEPARATE DOWNLOAD! Now that's a feature worth paying for! Me, I've been holding off on this boot camp stuff because the whole separate download just confused me! (Of course, this "feature" isn't really a "feature" since you can't get Boot Camp any other way).

My big question on Spaces is whether you can separate different windows of an app to different "spaces" (so I can have 3 browser windows in one space, but open another one in another space), or is it App-specific.

re: testudo's bootcamp

Arrive Oct 26, not Ship

The Apple web store says, in more than one place, "TO ARRIVE ON OCT 26TH", so it'll ship a fews before that. That's why I ordered mine from the store rather than drive to the nearest Apple sore (which isn't very near at all).

Testudo

I have been reading the comments on MacNN for a while now ( close to a year ), i have not posted a reply before now, but you... You have inspired me to write, i mean, can you really be this dense, you are a hater, yet you never seem to give a specific reason as to why you hate the mac platform, is it because you cant afford one and yet secretly you crave them? I cannot fathom your logic nor your reasons.

You are ignorant and obviously biased, are you on pay from some Big Software company that makes an OS?

le me just say to you, I despise your point of view, i loathe your comments and i wish you never came to this forum ever again.

Unfortunately i cant do nothing about you, or your views. I will try my best to ignore your inflammatory comments and go back to skipping over anything that comes from you.

Irojas.....

$69 price still there

I just preordered Leopard for $69 via the institutional store. The discount is still there, but more discounts seem to be smaller for individual orders. This was an order for university-owned computers, though.

re:institution

psdenno

iChat

I for one am glad to see that the iChat screen sharing has returned. It was gone from the description for awhile there. This is going to make supporting my family and friends so much easier (well, I'm hopeful anyway).

re: lrojas

that's because testudo was dropped as a baby. he claims to own a g5 yet constantly bashes apple and its users. he claims to present points-of-view from the other side yet he only does it to present apple in a negative way.

like one poster said, testudo is a constant contrarian. the best way to handle nitwits like him is to ignore him. and if you can't do that, just reply with some nonsensical comment (give him a taste of his own medicine).

Trying to...

...get back on topic.

Now thta you can preorder Leopard, i have a question, i plan on being on Orlando during the week of octuber 28 - November 4, would you suggest i preorder the box or try my luck at the stores in Orlando ?

Re: trying to

Now thta you can preorder Leopard, i have a question, i plan on being on Orlando during the week of octuber 28 - November 4, would you suggest i preorder the box or try my luck at the stores in Orlando ?

If you want to make sure you get it by the 28th, I'd stick to getting it in orlando. You can never be sure when Apple gets their stuff to their customers. Sometimes its a day or two early, sometimes a day or two late.

johnnyfive

you really are an idiot, or a sociopathic liar, or both. your g5 won't be able to run bootcamp. it never could and it never will.

Where did I say I was installing Bootcamp on a G5?

that's because testudo was dropped as a baby. he claims to own a g5 yet constantly bashes apple and its users. he claims to present points-of-view from the other side yet he only does it to present apple in a negative way.

Actually, I own a G5, iBook G3, MacBook Pro (which I CAN install Boot Camp on, in case you're wondering), Beige G3, PMac 7100, a IIsi, a Classic II, a Classic, a MacSE30 (custom painted black), a FatMac 512, and an original 128K (with signatures on the inside of the case). So, for some reason, I feel I have a reason to be here.

As for points of view from the other side, keep in mind that 99% of the posts here just slurp Apple without regard to any actual logic or reason (you know the type, "Someone's suing Apple? They should all be killed!" kind of posts). So the other side would generally be negative towards apple, wouldn't it?

And all of this, BTW, has been said because I was criticizing MacNN's choices for exciting new features Leopard will bring us.

Testudo

May i suggest that, based on my own perspective, what most people complain about your posts is that you come across the PC Users that want to smear any kind of news from Apple, and although i don't drink the Jobs cool-aid i firmly believe that apple is a better offering than any of the alternatives. Now if you could express your point of views without coming across as confrontational, perhaps your opinions would be considered more valid.

way to go!

Re: come on Macnn

[quote]OMG, STACKED dock icons! Now, for those who loathe the dock, more to loathe about it![/quote]

perhaps, but for the 90% that find the Dock useful, this is one of the best new features. It makes accessing the content of a folder in the Dock so much quicker (it pops up instantly, no more delay as the content is read like it is now when you right-click a folder in the Dock)

[quote]And CoverFlow in the Finder! Yes! Because we spend all our time in the Finder wanting to search for a file, know exactly what it looks like! Great for all those papers that have the same title page![/quote]

Different task can require different methods. Browsing a folder with a bunch of images and movie clips is quite nice with the cover-flow mode. It's a bit gimmicky, but most users will find the occasional use for it.

[quote]And, get this! You can run Boot Camp WITHOUT A SEPARATE DOWNLOAD! Now that's a feature worth paying for! Me, I've been holding off on this boot camp stuff because the whole separate download just confused me! (Of course, this "feature" isn't really a "feature" since you can't get Boot Camp any other way).[/quote]

Get this! You can now run Boot Camp WITHOUT SHUTTING DOWN YOUR MAC!
Select restart in Windows, and your Mac is put into a hibernating state while you are in Windows. Restart to OS X and everything is as you left it.
Not downloadable, but could be useful, no?

[quote]My big question on Spaces is whether you can separate different windows of an app to different "spaces" (so I can have 3 browser windows in one space, but open another one in another space), or is it App-specific.[/quote]

You can bring up the spaces screen and drag any window to any space from there, so what you want is perfectly feasible.
Personally, I've always found any kind of virtual desktop solution to interfere with my workflow. This is one of the new features I won't be using, but I think Apple has done a good job in creating a simple yet flexible solution here.

$109 at Amazon! Free Ship

re boot camp

that should've read 'without shutting down OS X' (The Mac puts OS X in save sleep/hibernate mode, then restarts into Windows. When you restart from Windows, it's like waking up your Mac, with everything running as you left it)

This was a feature present in earlier versions, and described on Apple's own website, but it seems to have disappeared, allegedly over concerns of accessing the Mac drive from Windows (OS X would have no way of knowing about this)

sorry for the confusion, hopefully Apple can find a way to make this feature work at some point.