The Fox News Channel’s program Fox and Friends had Ezra Dolezal on the show Tuesday. Ezra is the younger brother of Rachel Dolezal, the former leader of the NAACP Spokane chapter.

Although born to Caucasian parents, Ms. Dolezal told Matt Lauer on NBC’s TodayTuesday that she identified as black. “As much as this discussion has somewhat been at my expense recently, and in a very sort of viciously inhumane way come out of the woodwork, the discussion is really about what it is to be human,” Ms. Dolezal said. “I hope that that can drive at the core of definitions of race, ethnicity, culture, self determination, personal agency and, ultimately, empowerment.”

But Ezra, who told the Fox and Friends hosts that he had not seen his sister since 2012, expressed a vastly different viewpoint after being asked by co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck what the one thing he could say to her would be. “Honesty is a really important characteristic and she should just be honest with everybody about everything,” Ezra said. “And also to not be so angry towards the family. I mean, she’s got some really built up anger against the family for some really confusing reasons.”

Despite the estrangement, he said he still loves her. Co-host Steve Doocy then asked Ezra: “Is that when she told you, ‘Don’t blow my cover?’”–referring to the last time they saw each other.

“Yes,” Ezra immediately responded, explaining that it happened when he and his younger brother were visiting Rachel while she was living in Coeur D’Alene, Idaho. “She was basically telling me not to tell anybody over there about her family or Montana or her real parents,” Ezra said. “Like she was even saying that her dad was over in there in Coeur D’Alene with her.”

Doocy pointed out that Rachel would show a photo of the black “father” with her. “Well I never saw a picture until now,” admitted Ezra. “I didn’t really know who it was she was talking about,” telling the panel it was a person Rachel used to work with while living in Idaho.

I was kinda surprised about that because I didn’t actually know who it was until this past week that she was trying to pass him off as her real father.

Ezra brushed aside claims made by his sister that “any man can be a father; not every man can be a dad.”

“Well she changed her original statement, her original statement was actually her father,” Ezra pointed out. “It’s one thing to say ‘He’s your father figure,’ but saying someone is your biological father. That’s two different things.”

There’s multiple people that can be father figures, but I don’t know really why she would say that.