We shouldnt get Insulted when Andhras call us Taliban, the worst thing Taliban did was stoning to death hundreds of innocent women, Andhras did much more worst things, they Cursed an entire generation of Nalgonda people to live as Cripples, Even if a nuclear bomb had dropped in Nalgonda it couldnt have caused as Much misery as Flouride causes to lakhs of nalgonda people, They Turned Telangana in to a Desert ,resulting in Servitude , Indebtness and Ultimately forcing Telangana farmers to commit sucicides, Andhra police extrajudicial killings and torture thousands of telangana people, they Caused lakhs of Telangana Youth to be Unemployed and live in shame, They almost suceeded in subjugating the Telangana Culture and language, the list goes on and On, Andhras are worse than Animals.

Assumption1: TG state will became safe heaven for Naxals.Assumption2: TG state will have major religious conflicts.Assumption3: TG state formation will disintegrate India.Assumption4: TG state will became safe heaven for Jihadi groups.Assumption5: BJP will became stronger in TG state................You said well man.... Nobody can you help if you continue to make assumptions.

Is destroying Sanjeeva Reddy statue same as destroying statues f Sri Krishna Devaraya, Annamaayya etc? I remember u compared their statues to destruction of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein. A society which destroys or supports destruction of CULTURAL icons (not political or those unrelated to the issue) is doomed to destroy the society they live in.

The only pathetic way u can justify ur actions is by comparing this incident with ANY statue destruction. So, why destroy Pothana Annamayya statues instead of YSR, Hitech City, Shamshabad airport that ARE symbols of united AP?

"What if we destroy a statue not because of who it represents but who constructed it?"

U must be wrecked in ur mind. Statues are built to commemorate their contribution to society. It does NOT and should NOT matter who builds or installs them. France gifted the statue of Liberty to US, British govt has installed Gandhi statue in UK... do these statues represent the PEOPLE WHO INSTALLED THEM OR THE IDEAS THEY REPRESENT?

Finally, no justice system in the world justifies this argument:U can commit a murder but should not be arrested because there is atleast one person in the country who commited the murder but did not get caught.

Ur argument to destroy the devotional poets statues is similar. No one should blame u because Andhras destroyed some statue.

Why did we distroyed Annamayya statue on Tankbund and why didn't we destroyed same Annamayya's status in Telangana movements one of the heart city Siddipet?

[YSR, Hitech City, Shamshabad airport that ARE symbols of united AP? ]

If Hitech City, Shamshabad airport are symbols of United AP, then what about Charminar, Golkonda etc? Symbols of Telangana? Are you talking with your sense? Didn't your own people claiming that statues represents the telugu history/greatness, when did the telugu history/greatness meaning changed to 'United AP'?

We dont think Hitec City/airport etc are symbols of Seemandra supremacy. All above constructions were built because they were needed. As Owise said, we dont need statues on Tankbund to show SA supremacy. Thanks to YSR, he removed NTR's name from Int' Airport, by the way when YSR removed the NTR's name no one bothered about Telugu Pride.

[It does NOT and should NOT matter who builds or installs them. ]

Not every one thinks like you, for example, we didn't destroyed Annamayya statue in Siddipet, and many of Alluri statues in several places.

[France gifted the statue of Liberty to US, British govt has installed Gandhi statue in UK.]

France gifted the statue to USA, and statues belongs to American may be in France, same applies to British. Can you show me a Telangana@ statue in SA region? British accepted Gandhi statue, but we didn't forced on them like how you forced your statues on us.

Do you know how many places Telugu Talli statues are installed in AP?

[Ur argument to destroy the devotional poets statues is similar. No one should blame u because Andhras destroyed some statue. ]

Any one can blame us, but you are not fit to blame us, because your history itself starts from voilent agitations, separatist movements, destroying famous statues and hating other region people (history proves the kosta reacted violently when ever seema or uttarandra gets something good from govt. like iron factory or state capital etc).

Atleast taliban is better than you, they express there hatred. But you, .... you hate telangana and yet say you love them. whole humanity is shame on you.

If anything it is more Inflammotory, No one gives a Rats ass about some 1000 year old historic figure, No one even clearly knows if Devaraya was a Telugu or Kannindiga, Much less andhra or telanganite.

Where as Sanjeeva reddy was like a "cultural icon" for telangana people much like "Ambedkar" or "Che guevera" or "gandhi". So no one gives a Shit about figure mentioned only in some textbooks.

Think about how Andhras would have reacted to Destroying all(you destroyed all the statues of Sanjevve reddy in Andhra) the YSR and NTR statues in Hyderabad.

@kiran,the first flourosis case in ap was reported in prakasam district.proof http://www.fluorosisinandhra.org/fluorosisinap_page.htm

it is also prevailant in anantapur district even now.

"They Turned Telangana in to a Desert ,resulting in Servitude , Indebtness and Ultimately forcing Telangana farmers to commit sucicides,"

is it entire telangana or parts of mahboobnagar and nalogonda districts?because karimnagar is the 2nd or 3rd lrgetst rice producing district in ap.miryalguda in nalgonda is one of the top 5 market yards in aphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miryalgudaenamamula market yard in warangal is one of the largest in asia itself

"they Caused lakhs of Telangana Youth to be Unemployed and live in shame,"

as if there is no unemployment in seemandhra districts

"Andhra police extrajudicial killings and torture thousands of telangana people,"in the current phase of telangana agiataion, NOT A SINGLE person died in police firings.and regarding lock up deaths, they occur throughout the state.in the same way, hundred, if not thousands of andhra police were killed by naxalites who,incidentally are from all the 3 regions of the state

if i remeember correctly the current phase of telangana agitation started when supreme court gave a ruling on october 9th 2009 that hyd is a free zone for recruitment of SIs. I RECOLLECT KCR SAYING "IVALLA HYD ANTAARU REPU NIZAMABAD ANTARU, TARVATHA TELANGANA MOTHHAM FREE ZONE ANTARU"

enduku antaaru andi, hyd is a free zone because article 14f of presedential order keeps out of its purview certain posts, one of it being hyd city police because it was covered by hyd police act gievn by the nizam. certain people said that since nizam was gone, that act shd also be removed but, at the same time, the same people keep quoting mulki rules.

the day b4 his fasting, i.e. on november 28 2009, kcr adressed a press gathering where he told in detail various factors why he was going for fast.it was at that time thet he spoke about water, land grabbing, etc.before that he would only tell about that judgement.even the (in)famous bhago jago statement was made in that context.what happend after that is now history.without going into the merits and demerits of the division of ap, i would like to ask "is it fair to divide a state purely based on a legal issue i.e. article 14f of presedential order"of course, my doubt is too late now i believe

If Naxals had Set Up a special armed Unit just for the cause of Telangana iam sure tens of thousands will readily Join it, Donno why havent still given the Call to Arms. This could turnaround the tables for Naxals, but i guess their CC is still composed of mainly Andhras interested only in Selfenrichment.

[without going into the merits and demerits of the division of ap, i would like to ask "is it fair to divide a state purely based on a legal issue i.e. article 14f of presedential order"of course, my doubt is too late now i believe]

If you look into APs history, seemandra@ asked for division in 1972 purely based on a legal issue i.e. mulki rules.

If you put that a side, who told you that we are asking our state just because we dont like 14f? May be our movement changed the gears when KCR went to fasting for 14f or what ever.

[enduku antaaru andi, hyd is a free zone because article 14f of presedential order keeps out of its purview certain posts,]

Majority of SA leaders accepted that 14f is a mistake in presidential order and that needs to be corrected. 14f is nothing but bringing more non local SA people into HYD. Ofcource few of your leaders didn't agree with this saying every one should have right to work in HYD because it is capital. Such statements sounds really great but entirely stupid, misleading. We had hundreds of discussion about it before.

Why did coastal andhra people destroy Sanjeeva Reddy's staue in 1966? This has nothing to do with the reason behind the agitation (steel plant). They hated him because of the "capital enmity" and his role in the Sribagh pact. They treated him as an enemy because he stood for his region.

@sujaion one hand u said few weeks ago that telanganaites shd be proud of bringing down the statues.but,now u said andhraites did the same thing 45 yrs ago.so wats wrong if we do it now?did the incident on tank bund happen because YOU wanted it or because u wanted to follow the footsteps of people who did the same thing long ago?

if i scold kcr, many of his "fans" here are getting offended.so i have deiceded to stop abusing him

I am not sure when you have started to read comments on this blog, but for many months now, many Samaikhyandhra proponents kept 'abusing' and 'insulting' KCR on this forum. Those comments are still available. And not many people from Telangana protested on such 'abuses' and 'insults'.

Having said that, I am OK with commenters criticizing or ridiculing anyone but 'abuses' and 'swear words' are not entertained.

"if i scold kcr, many of his "fans" here are getting offended.so i have deiceded to stop abusing him"

You can scold KCR to your heart's content. We will hand over KCR and his entire family to you if you want. You will be free to do what you like with them (make them ministers in your state, jail or even kill them).

Will you and the rest of andhras end your opposition to Telangana and cooperate in forming our state then?

[You can scold KCR to your heart's content. We will hand over KCR and his entire family to you if you want. You will be free to do what you like with them (make them ministers in your state, jail or even kill them). ]

Well said Jai. I and many of us expressed the same feeling in this blog but it seems like those expressions all fallen into there deaf ears, they want to hear only if some one wants to defend KCR.

Actually they are confused, they hate TG people, but they show all there frustration on KCR/Kodandaram but not on TG people because they want to put a fake 'We love TG' face infront of the world.

@green star,i cant speak on behalf of the people of my region like the gr8 sujai gaaru but individually i dont have any enemity whatsoever with the ordinary person of your region though he desires to be seperate.but however, i do definetely have a problem with kcr for abusing my region day in out.not just in recent times but right from the day he set up trs.if i start recolleting the statements he made now, maybe it will take 10 pages.im sure such incident were never made when any of the 14 states were made after independence.im sure safety of settlers was never an issue when any of the new states was formde after independence.had he toured seemandhra regions once in few months atleast, after he set up his party and assured the people therethat they have nothing to worry even after the state seperates, things might have been totally different now.you might say, he is not the only person representing telangana but chidambaram made the statement on december 9th only to break his fast.wether you accept or not, its a fact.and hence naturally, seemandhraites had their own worries wether this man would even allow us to live in hyderabad.

u had talked about elections some time back as to why we voted for parties wich promised telangana.when people voted for congress-trs alliance in 2004, , at that time the very fmous bhago jago statemenet was not made.andhra vidya samsdhalani nishedisthaam, statement was not made.hence, people voted against mahakootami in 2009.in fact bhago jaago was made even after 2009 elections.so naturally people pulled up parties here.no doubt parties were also responsible for the sudden u turn.100% valladi kooda mistake.i neevr denied thatbut then, kcr spoke about people of seemandhra in a much much more worse way and it is our BIRTHRIGHT as well as DUTY to hate him.

[i dont have any enemity whatsoever with the ordinary person of your region though he desires to be seperate.]

Well, your statement will put some weight if you ever question your own people for there past mistakes and why they are calling TG people as anti-nationals for TG people asking democratic and constitutional right.

[i do definetely have a problem with kcr for abusing my region day in out.not just in recent times but right from the day he set up trs.]

We feel the same ...actually more and more about your region for abusing our region in disguise of AP state not only just in recent times but right from the day we were merged.

[if i start recolleting the statements he made now, maybe it will take 10 pages.]

You too can start your region mistakes right from denying DCM post for TG after the Gentlemen Agreement.

[im sure such incident were never made when any of the 14 states were made after independence.]

At the same time in our Indian history no other region never back-stabbed other region (I am talking about how you people had no problem for pro-T parties and voted, later you took U turn)

[im sure safety of settlers was never an issue when any of the new states was formde after independence.]

You should say the same thing to your people.

[had he toured seemandhra regions once in few months atleast, after he set up his party and assured the people therethat they have nothing to worry even after the state seperates, things might have been totally different now.]

Who is he to assure your people on behalf of our people? Did we ever gave him enough majority in voting so that he can talk on behalf of us? But anyway, when your region put a mask of United Andhra, as per the any logic exists in current world tells you that it is your region needs to convince us about why we need not separated. If your region take out the fake United mask and start expressing your concerns, well some one from TG or all TG people may start assuring you, KCR may tour around you region to assure on his party behalf like how you wanted.

[you might say, he is not the only person representing telangana but chidambaram made the statement on december 9th only to break his fast.]

So, you have a problem with Chidambaram, not with KCR or TG people. By the way he answered in such way because your leaders always questioned him about why he has to make hasty statement in the night, why cant we wait till morning.

[wether you accept or not, its a fact.and hence naturally, seemandhraites had their own worries wether this man would even allow us to live in hyderabad. ]

I am surprised, your region never (or very less) talked about your problems after the de-merge, but your region always wants to show a imaginary picture about how TG will ruin itself after the de-merge with several side effects like naxals, terrorism etc. Some of your leaders went such extend that they are okey for separation if HYD made UT? How will your problems(what ever) will solve if HYD made UT? are they out of there mind?

[i cant speak on behalf of the people of my region like the gr8 sujai gaaru]

And... we running out of patience to debate with each and individuals who starts from square one again and again.

[when people voted for congress-trs alliance in 2004, , at that time the very fmous bhago jago statemenet was not made.]

Well, you want to reject whole TG people based on one TG leader who TG people are rejected several times? isn't looks stupid? I know why you want to highlight 'bhago jago', you want some reason to reject us, thats all. Can you provide me a video link where he gave that famous 'bhago jago' statement? I would like you and I to know on what context he used that statement. As SKC explained, your media successfully twisted his statement and showed completely different meaning to that. I am asking again, can you show me a video link for that? Do you know on what context he used that statement?

[hence, people voted against mahakootami in 2009.]

Are you saying Congress is against the TG? Do you know what percentage of votes your region gave to mahakootami vs congress, I guess it was very narrow margin.

[in fact bhago jaago was made even after 2009 elections.so naturally people pulled up parties here.]

If we apply your logic, we would have declared war on Pakistan several times because the PAK based groups attacked India several times.

@jai,u said that you would hand over kcr and his family to us. 10 yrs nundi idigo adigo annappudu, lagadapatini i love u annappudu, vaadi sontha office mundu ravindra naikni shirt chimpi kottinchinappudu, anthendukandi monnatiki monna 3 mlas meeda elanti charyalu teesukoleka poyinappudu, wat could u do to him???ok, if u really hand him over to us, first of all i would kneel and bow my head to u.after that surely ill teach him a lesson he would never ever forget but then,that would only make him a sort of martyr.raj news would telecast a news titled "telangana kosam andhrollatho thannulu tinna nayakudu".i dont want that to happen.

@green star"Well, your statement will put some weight if you ever question your own people for there past mistakes and why they are calling TG people as anti-nationals for TG people asking democratic and constitutional right."

i convinced many of my friends

"You too can start your region mistakes right from denying DCM post for TG after the Gentlemen Agreement."i dont deny that

"when your region put a mask of United Andhra, as per the any logic exists in current world tells you that it is your region needs to convince us about why we need not separated"

im talking about the 2004-09 days days when kcr would abuse us day in and out.

"I am surprised, your region never (or very less) talked about your problems after the de-merge, but your region always wants to show a imaginary picture about how TG will ruin itself after the de-merge with several side effects like naxals, terrorism etc. Some of your leaders went such extend that they are okey for separation if HYD made UT? How will your problems(what ever) will solve if HYD made UT? are they out of there mind? "

100% agree with you

"TG, Kavuri, Lagadapati etc. It seems your region has no problems with these leaders."did i ever praise them?in fact just today i was saying to my father that tg venkatesh matches kcr in madness.

"Are you saying Congress is against the TG? Do you know what percentage of votes your region gave to mahakootami vs congress, I guess it was very narrow margin. "narrow or more, but in terms of number of seats congress was way ahead of tdp in seemandhra reason being ysr instigating the people that they would have to lead a 2nd grade life if maha kootami came to power.i 100% condemn his statements but then, it was kcr who gave him that chance as he would talk bad about us.

"If your region take out the fake United mask and start expressing your concerns, well some one from TG or all TG people may start assuring you, KCR may tour around you region to assure on his party behalf like how you wanted. "hope that day comes soon.

"How many times your region questioned your leaders for this mess? Atleast we were even kicked few butts for not standing well on there word. "

so u mean i shd catch hold of chiranjeevi and chandu naidu and thrash them up???as i said before, i am NOT AGAINST seperate telangana.in fact there are benefits for us also if we get seperate seemandhra.but im only opposing the manner in which hatred is being propogated on both sides since the last 5-6 yrs.u are only saying about few comments like naxalites and drunkards but just go to discussion forum and see, wat sort of filthy languiage is being used there.unfortunately, majority of the abusers are your region people.sad but its a fact

[so u mean i shd catch hold of chiranjeevi and chandu naidu and thrash them up???]

You you two options, either you can trash your leaders or stay keep quite so that separation process go smooth and benefits both.

[but im only opposing the manner in which hatred is being propogated on both sides since the last 5-6 yrs.]

as long as you blame only TG, your discussion go no where.

[u are only saying about few comments like naxalites and drunkards but just go to discussion forum and see, wat sort of filthy languiage is being used there.unfortunately, majority of the abusers are your region people.sad but its a fact ]

Unfortunately, I and many of my friends in this blog see completely different picture. On any neutral ground where comments are applicable (like rediff news) it is SA fanboys who spreading more hatred. Isn't I mentioned many times(with links) before saying it is seemandra fanboys who use filthy language and call us with names in many discussion boards?

I am still open for your counter argument if you can provide any links from neutral sites. Not from blogs/sites which are maintained by either pro-T or anti-T persons.

[did i ever praise them?]

We too dont praise KCR, good or bad he is the reason now our movement attracted national(international) eye. And we give him the credit for this.

[narrow or more, but in terms of number of seats congress was way ahead of tdp in seemandhra reason being ysr instigating the people that they would have to lead a 2nd grade life if maha kootami came to power.i 100% condemn his statements but then, it was kcr who gave him that chance as he would talk bad about us.]

I am not talking about seats, I am talking about how much percentage of people voted for pro-T parties. Isn't that percentage of people represents they are okey for separation? YSR has switched sides once the polls are completed in T regions, so....do you want to say even he showed his double tongue you still want to trust this monster and vote him hoping he will stand on the word which he gave it to you(keeping state united) and also hoping he will not switch the sides again and will not stand on his another word which he gave it to TG people. Could you please stop this foolish argument? You are insulting your IQ yourself.

You and every one knows that in previous assembly elections your region people were not serious about T formation, they thought that will never going to happen. So you didn't cared if it is pro or anti T parties and you feel ashamed to accept this mistake.

[hope that day comes soon.]It is already tooo late, you already made a region who dont like you anymore(even the end results or united or divided). You are suffocated and killed the 'Telugu Unity'. Forcefully keeping us in one state will not give you the 'Telugu Unity', that unity feeling should come from heart. I still dont understand why your region people dont understand such simple logic.

[if u really hand him over to us, first of all i would kneel and bow my head to u.]

Such leaders are on both sides, if you think KCR is too far to reach, you have your own leaders, reachable, teach them a lesson..... well after that you deserve to demand to handover KCR.

KCR just made statements, you may think they are filthy. Such statements may feel you bad, you may forget them after some time.

At the same time there are many leaders in your region, who really looted our region/people in many ways, jobs, water, etc etc. Some of your leader's partiality actions hit the many lives in our region which can not be healed by time. What kind of punishment do you propose them.

[Please do not ask for proof again and again, many JACs etc in TG reacted negatively to KCR's "I love you" to Rajagopal] ]

I dont need proofs for that, I do not know what you are arguing here. Any way, as nenusaitam argument, he/she is asking why no one question KCR regarding few incidents including this 'i love you', as per your argument many of us questioned KCR, so nothing to argue here.

As I told before not every one took the same interpretation for KCRs dialogs(like jago bago, i love you etc), many of us question him who ever differ with his statements. (conveniently this was never happened in SA ....for there leaders taking pro-t stand in there assembly elections). And I too dont agree with KCR in many issues, yet I dont completely reject him. Do I agree to consider KCR to lead my movement? hell NO.

I am curious what T vaadis will say about self-rule and atma gauravam when KCR becomes CM (or de facto ruler) and his kids become ministers since he is actually an Andhraite. I know that for the larger goal of T this is a small sacrifice. But then, all SA haters will have to life forever with the fact that they were redeemed by an Andhraite.

I thought everyone knows about his origin. his relatives still live in Vizianagaram, near bobbili. they have relationships with him. he used to visit them once in a while. i don't think he has ever denied his origin.

the state getting split or not doesnt make me as much sad as the dent caused on the image of brand hyderabad.okappudu biryani city with charminar as symbol.tarvatha hitech city with cyber towers as logo.mari ippudu????my brother was saying that if telangana seperates, bonalu would become the mascot of hyderabad.i would be very much happy if it happens, but unfortunately today, a burning bus or a broken statue is becoming the brand image of the gr8 city

[I thought everyone knows about his origin. his relatives still live in Vizianagaram, near bobbili. they have relationships with him. he used to visit them once in a while. i don't think he has ever denied his origin. ]

What every one know is 'the propaganda spread by SA', on what basis you conceder some one belongs to SA or TG? As per my view(others may not agree), who ever living in TG when Hyderabad state was merged into Indian Union belongs to TG, and who ever migrated to TG(after the merge) and wants to claim as TG people(as per law) can also considered as TG people. My relatives are in Vijayawada, it doesnt mean my origins are from Vijayawada.

I dont mind if my region is ruled by a SA leader as long as the ruler dont show the regional partiality, unfortunately so far all(or more) SA rulers showed there extreme regionalism and we dont accept it anymore.

[the state getting split or not doesnt make me as much sad as the dent caused on the image of brand hyderabad.okappudu biryani city with charminar as symbol.tarvatha hitech city with cyber towers as logo.mari ippudu????]

This is exactly the problem with SA, they want to wipe of every history belongs to Telangana, they successfully wiped the telangana history and made the SA history as whole Telugu people's history.

Hello sir, if you go out of AP not many people recognize HiTech city, no one knows about it, they put blank face if you talk about HiTech city because many dont know where it is. But many people(including other countries) recognize the Hyderabad by biriyani or charminar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjCMelis9oU

[but unfortunately today, a burning bus or a broken statue is becoming the brand image of the gr8 city]This wouldn't have happened if SA stands on there word, what right do you have to ask us to calm down when your leaders are the reason for this destruction? How many are remembered when SA destroyed the statue in 1960s? Same thing happens for this incident too after couple of years.

i just gave the example of hitech city and charminar to give an example of changing times.no offence meant

"But many people(including other countries) recognize the Hyderabad by biriyani or charminar."

thats exactly wat im saying.its much better to be associated with biryani rather than being branded as a city of violence.

"what right do you have to ask us to calm down when your leaders are the reason for this destruction?"

many leaders of my region like lagadapati, subbiramireddy,etc have huge amounts of properties in hyderabad.if u attack them, im sure it will be of much benefit to your udyamam.and also, people of my region wont bothr as much as the statues as a bungalow of lagadapati or jagan doesnt make the same impact to us as the statue of annamacharya or nnannayya

Yes, if *all of you* withdraw all opposition to Telangana and cooperate in the formation of our state.

"wat could u do to him???"

Why are you so concerned? Let us sign the "gentlemen's agreement" trading (or ransoming) KCR for Telangana state.

"raj news would telecast a news"

No, remember all channels would only show "Telangana state formed".

KCR is a symbol to andh(r)a guys. They find it easy to shower abuse on Telangana people and ridicule us by claiming "we are only against KCR". If you are really sincere in your opposition to loose tongue/hate speech, you should equally criticize SA guyss tirade against our people & culture.

"the state getting split or not doesnt make me as much sad as the dent caused on the image of brand hyderabad"

I think you should read CII submittal to SKC. Industry is not concerned about division but peace & security. There have been only 4 bandh days in the last 5 years: lower even than Chennai. In fact, the bomb blasts & faction murders have dented the city reputation more.

"okappudu biryani city with charminar as symbol.tarvatha hitech city with cyber towers as logo.mari ippudu????"

Charminar will always remain the symbol of this city. Does anyone identify Chennai with Tidel?

I dont know why Union Govt. bother to correct mistakes the SKC report when the total report itself wrong. Such mistakes only prove how less study SKC have done on the issue and regions. I dont doubt if SKC is collecting information from people in SA and thinking they are in Telangana and conclude many of TG people are against the separation.

Quote:"i just gave the example of hitech city and charminar to give an example of changing times."

Times may have changed, but HYD is not recognized by Hitech city, you guys working hard to make few of the new constructions as icons of history and wiping the old, if you are succeeded, after one of two generations you will start telling your children that you built the hyderabad city from the scratch. (it is already happening).

Quote:"its much better to be associated with biryani rather than being branded as a city of violence."

What violence are you talking about? Do you know the meaning of violence? Can you show me few of the incidents(related to TG movement) which rocked the country?

Quote:"many leaders of my region like lagadapati, subbiramireddy,etc have huge amounts of properties in hyderabad.if u attack them, im sure it will be of much benefit to your udyamam."

Interesting suggestion, but HOW does it help our udyamam? dont you think such incidents will help your regions false propogonda about there is not security for settlers?

Quote:"and also, people of my region wont bothr as much as the statues as a bungalow of lagadapati or jagan doesnt make the same impact to us as the statue of annamacharya or nnannayya"

This shows how much less value you give to a living person compared to statues. You encourage us to attack and destroy a living person and you don't feel bad about it. If you don't like lagadapati or Jagan, why dont you guys start such attacking his properties to show your anger towards them and call us to do the same?

Quote:"u say that hyderabad is the heart of telangana.but the recent vandalism makes me think if its the right way to take care of such an important organ"

Dont you know how penicillin works?

Dont try to picture few minor incidents in TG movement as world ending signs. Such destruction happened in many other movements/situations so far it , like students movements for scholarships, doctors movement for there security or salary hike or when some useless leader get killed by a opponent or certain section of people asking for reservations, or a unknown website writes a conspiracy story about YSR's death .... you name it.. in many agitation(or in single incidents) many of such vandalism happened, no one cared about it. But... interestingly... if the matters comes to TG movement, if some one from TG broke a window, you SA region cries like there limbs have been cut off. Please stop your fake acting, it is getting bored...dont start everyday with your cry.

By the way our movement didn't dent the brand Hyderabad. Several of state govt. statements proved it that the business is growing well even though the movement is running at peak. Rest of the country knows that they are not the target by TG movement. And none of SA business are also not attacked so far. But still you want to wear 'Indian Gobels' costume, and you want people to believe your scary imaginary stories so that it will help your cause.

As HC judge expressed(about a Journalist who was ditched by media when his equipment was destroyed and he was manhandled by police in OU), SA cares only to highlight and talk about the incidents happened by TG activists.

By the way you still didnt come up with few links to show me where TG people are spreading more hatred than SA on neutral webs.

many leaders of my region like lagadapati, subbiramireddy,etc have huge amounts of properties in hyderabad.if u attack them, im sure it will be of much benefit to your udyamam.and also, people of my region wont bothr as much as the statues as a bungalow of lagadapati or jagan doesnt make the same impact to us as the statue of annamacharya or nnannayya

let them reply to that. it will be interesting. you raised a pertinent and a pointy point.

I dont know why Union Govt. bother to correct mistakes the SKC report when the total report itself wrong. Such mistakes only prove how less study SKC have done on the issue and regions. I dont doubt if SKC is collecting information from people in SA and thinking they are in Telangana and conclude many of TG people are against the separation.

It happens everywhere. Show me one union report that does not have this kind of minor corrections.

I replied it couple of hours ago, looks like my post was lost some where. Writing again....

[i just gave the example of hitech city and charminar to give an example of changing times.no offence meant]

You dont mean offense, because you people dont think it was an offense. First you start with small publicity like this saying Hitech city or airport are the icons of HYD, after one or two generations you modify the history in such a way that they are the icons, and you teach your next generations that you built the HYD from the scratch. This is same way how it happened so far, you made your SA history as total telugu people's history by wiping the Telangana history(including from text books).

[thats exactly wat im saying.its much better to be associated with biryani rather than being branded as a city of violence.]

What violence are you talking about? Did any one remembered the violence happened when Andhra state was formed? Did any one branded SA with violence for that? How does these incidents bigger than the Tsundur/Karamchedu? or blasts in HYD? or the destruction happened after some unknown website writes a conspiracy story about YSR's death? or Seema faction blasts/kills in HYD? or destruction in the state after Ranga killed?

Rest of the country knows that if there is a problem in HYD, that will be only to SA!! Non AP people all feel safe in HYD, so far no attacks on SA people or there properties. But SA did there false propaganda successfully and now SA feels they are not safe in TG.

[many leaders of my region like lagadapati, subbiramireddy,etc have huge amounts of properties in hyderabad.if u attack them, im sure it will be of much benefit to your udyamam.]

Didn't you guys cry foul every day and night fearing attacks on your people/properties? Didn't you guys gave this reason for objecting TG formation? Who said attacks on SA properties will benefit our movement?

[and also, people of my region wont bothr as much as the statues as a bungalow of lagadapati or jagan doesnt make the same impact to us as the statue of annamacharya or nnannayya]

This shows how much value you give to a living person compared to a statue. You dont care if a living person attacked physically but you feel like your limbs have been cut off if some one destroy one of those statues. What kind of person are you?

[u say that hyderabad is the heart of telangana.but the recent vandalism makes me think if its the right way to take care of such an important organ]

AP state govt made several statements about how HYD business was increased in 2010 compared to 2009, isn't that statement proves HYD is not dented with peak telangana movement, but unfortunately you want to put all such official statements into your deaf ear and always repeats SA Gandhi Lagapati's Bagavatgeeta. You became a SA version of Gobels.

"many leaders of my region like lagadapati, subbiramireddy,etc have huge amounts of properties in hyderabad.if u attack them, im sure it will be of much benefit to your udyamam.and also, people of my region wont bothr as much as the statues as a bungalow of lagadapati or jagan doesnt make the same impact to us as the statue of annamacharya or nnannayya"

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"let them reply to that. it will be interesting. you raised a pertinent and a pointy point."

You are either mistaken or mischievous. Remember the lolli raised by andha guys when lawyers protested against Kavuri? What about the "attack" on jackal pundit?

On the other hand, there is hardly any whimper when andha guys attack each other. There was near zero press coverage when JCD was gheraoed by Raghuveera supporters or when Rajashekhar was attacked by Chiranjeevi fans. Even the uncivilized YSV-Gali fighting *inside* the assembly was promptly wrapped up.

It is clear that the andha guys and their media reserve strong language (taliban, murder of democracy etc.) only if Telanganas are involved irrespective of anything we do.

@green star and jai,"Didn't you guys cry foul every day and night fearing attacks on your people/properties? "

95%(or even more) of settlers in telangana are poor and midle class people.they fear threat their lifes/properties and NOT the atack on few filthy rich people whose names i mentioned.

"By the way, you still haven't provided me links where TG people are spreading more hatred than SA people on neutral webs. I am still waiting...."go to youtube and saerch at random for any 10 links related to telangana movement.just go thrpugh the comments section of those videos.ull find wat sort of filthy language is being used.one smalle xamplego to youtube and type for "kcr hitler" video.its purely a satirical one.but the comments there are of the most abusive ones.

@jai,i think cii submittal to skc came BEFORE jan 6th 2011 when skc submitted its report.after that nascom president himself expressed concerns about the law and order situation in the state.after that, i think cii ap chapter held an all party meeting to raise their apprehensions.and regarding my region people abusing you, i condemned them many times.kindly go through my comments in this and previous articles.

Within a few days of releasing the English version of SKC report, the Union govt has released a Telugu version of it. While the English version is now infamous for the scores of factual errors, language bias, faulty methodology, contradictory findings and recommendations, it turns out that the Telugu translation is worse.

Thank god Anna hazare is now leading the campaign against the corruption, If "progressive forces" like him dont tap the Public anger against corruption, there is a danger that India will have its own Right wing anti-establishment (tea party like) agents Gaining power. Now people like Baba ramdev and JP of Loksatta have to look elsewhere.

@green staryou people only keep saying everyday that "seemandhra pettubadi daarulaara khabaddar" so im suggesting that instead of targetting public proerty or the common man(like giving threats that sankranthiki ooruku vellina vallani ranivvam), y dont ui hit where it hurts-that is the REAL oppisition to ur target

you people only keep saying everyday that "seemandhra pettubadi daarulaara khabaddar" so im suggesting that instead of targetting public proerty or the common man(like giving threats that sankranthiki ooruku vellina vallani ranivvam), y dont ui hit where it hurts-that is the REAL oppisition to ur target

Again well said nenusaitham.

Jai replied by deflecting the issue and comparing it to incidents which are largely personal in nature.

When they can destroy statues which have no life and whom they do not blame, why don't they attack leaders they actually blame.

Their real target seems to be the common people really. In this blog itself there are people who desire to "kick out" people and occupy their houses and take their properties. This is just a maoist movement in the disguise of a statehood movement and claiming a city which does not belong to them.

Jealousy and envy and maoist fundamentals are what drive this agitation.

are you saying.... it is only TG using filthy language or it is TG who use more filthy language than SA?

i mean it is tg people who use filthy language MORE than SA.one more small example.search for "open heart with rk@ktr" in youtube.there one seemandhra guy just passed a sarcastic comment on ktr which was a very casual one.u see for urself wat foul mouthed reply he got from a tg person

Mittal of Nasscom appealed to agitators to spare 24X7 BPO's from the bandhs (and they did so). His other concern was to do with uncertainty (which arose due to andha opposition).

None of the andhra guys I know are scared for their life or property. Their only concern is that their relal estate value can depreciate. I tell them this is a part of normal investment risk. Denying the aspirations of crores just to protect Subbarao's (and a few thousands like him) plot price is absolute nonsense.

The orchestrated chorus that ordinary andhras are not safe is a creation of the plutocrats supported by TRP hungry media. JCD, Kavuri, Nannapaneni & co. keep harping on this to create a fear psychosis among ordinary andhra people.

Thank you for your advice to attack Kavuri, Lagadapati etc. We are not in favor of using this tactic but can not rule it out if the situation so warrants. But remember every such incident (however minor it may be) will be used by andha "dealers" & media to drum up their cacophony.

So, you agree that your people are not saints, then you have no right to advise or point others. It doesnt matter if you steal Rs.100 or Rs100 crores, you will be called as thief.

I dont know why you dont understand a simple thing of living a moral life, you have no moral right to point fingers at some one when you do/did the same thing in your life(more or less, doesn't matter)

You tried to picture us to whole country as 'Anti Nationals' or 'Talibans', there is no equal or bigger filthy word than those to use on entire region.

Majority of businesses in T are owned by Marwadis, Gujjus and Punjus. Why do you guys call only SA Business owners as 'dopididarulu'.Can anyone here give specific examples of such dopidi by businessmen from SA.

Also I keep seeing the use of the word 'capitalist' as if it is a disease. So are we to assume that all those who are writing that way are actually parasites ( Communists)

As for maoist influence on T movement....Sambasividu was a naxalite, Gaddar was also a naxalite, Chukka ramiah was a courier for them.....all these people killed thousands of Telangana people and now want to fight for them !!Don't we know the extent of the maoist ideology. Are we all so naive that we don't understand the various methods they adopt.Are some people like Jai , Warangal etc really assuming that the state is dumb not to understand the various strategies and tactics that the maoists adopt.

Sujai said "What if we destroy a statue not because of who it represents but who constructed it?"

"Those who accept this must also agree with me when I say "Every Telanganite whom Andhra doctor helped deliver in a maternity must be destroyed""

Sada, you are confused here. The answer to "who constructed it?" in the case of the statues is "andha colonial rulers & their crony plutocrats", not "ordinary andhra peoole". We have nothing against ordinary people including doctors.

"Those who accept this must also agree with me when I say "Every Telanganite whom Andhra doctor helped deliver in a maternity must be destroyed"

that is where the the main difference lies,you give more importance to lifeless statues than life and living people!!!...

"comparing destroying statues to killing new born babies"...i wonder what a culture you are from...certainly not from telangana culture..i wonder what even those great people for whom those statues were built for,if alive still, would have saids about your ABOVE COMMENTS..

Where are the statues of PV Narasimha Rao in Delhi? So lets march to Delhi and destroy all North Indian leader statues as South Indian elites have not got blah blah blah.

This nonsense is meaningless. It is just a bunch of guys who can't excel who have ganged up and under maoist ideology cry and want to cheat and take over what others have created. As if crony capitalism is not there in the country at a national level - so if it is that you are against fight it.

Jai and warangal and others just mix up multiple subjects and want to appear as if they are making a point while they don't realize that the whole India does not care because there is no point in it.

@warangalkaloji and dasaradhi were alive when the statues were built.kuli kutub shah vigraham undakapovachu kaani taneeshah vigraham undi.i agree that komaram bheem's statues should have been there.but then, there were several telangana leaders in tdp at that time including kcr.why did they not raise that issue then?and u talked about "maa " and "mee".apart from sri sri and gurram jashua, all other statues whom u destroyed existed at a time when the concept of "andhra" and "telangana" did not exist.one small examples-tikkana who was from nellore was the poet in the court of ganapathideva who ruled entire telugu region from your town orugallu.in fact, most of them died before 1956 when the state of ap was formed.but the, there are gandhi and ambedkar statues in every town of India.neither tg nor sa people consider them as "gujarathis" and "maharashtrians" respectively

but one thing for which i CAN NEVER forgive the person who commited it(not ALL TG PEOPLE) is the destruction of the statue of annamacharya who was thre greatest devotee of lord Venkateswara.next time when u go to a temple and bow befor Lord Venkateswara's idol, please remember that a person from your region insulted him by breaking his devotee's statue

Quote:"Those who accept this must also agree with me when I say "Every Telanganite whom Andhra doctor helped deliver in a maternity must be destroyed""

I will tell you how stupid your statement sounds.

SA says, all telugu speaking people must be in one state, so we should merge Ballari etc telugu speaking areas into AP, recently I heard there are many telugu speaking people in Andaman, USA etc, we should forcefully bring all telugu speaking people all over the world and leave them in AP. we should either make HYD as another state(because majority people speaking non-telugu)or force all non-telugu speaking people to leave the city. We can make AP as a virtual jail so that no non telugu people will come into AP and no telugu speaking people will leave AP.

Quote:"The Indian version of Gobels is the whole lies narrative built by Telanaganas which was busted by the SKC. This proves how shameless you people are wanting to rob other people's wealth and hard work."

Hehehahee... now every one knows who prepared the report for SKC.

Courts bombed your asses when you try to crush us by coloring us with Naxal picture,

and again courts kicked your butts very badly when you tried to crush us again with SKC report (that report is not even useful to wipe our a**)

History is well recorded your looting with GO36, GO610, Girglani report and Bhargava report. Isn't enough to prove you as Indian version of Gobels. Actually we can forget the word Gobels and call as SA's if some one acting like Gobels. just like how we decided to use SriKrishnas instead of Tugluqus.

As for maoist influence on T movement....Sambasividu was a naxalite, Gaddar was also a naxalite, Chukka ramiah was a courier for them.....all these people killed thousands of Telangana people and now want to fight for them !!Don't we know the extent of the maoist ideology. Are we all so naive that we don't understand the various methods they adopt.Are some people like Jai , Warangal etc really assuming that the state is dumb not to understand the various strategies and tactics that the maoists adopt.

Do you abandon your United Andhra crap if Naxal start supporting your cause? If they supported, there must be a bad reason, isn't it?

Naxal support and fight for equal law, so you fight for un-equal law. You do exactly opposite to what ever Naxal do.

If that happens, it is easy for us to request Naxal to show there fake support for United Andhra, and that makes our job easy when you dumbs just do opposite to Naxal actions.

Isn't the major Naxal incidents happened in SA? Isn't major clashes(religious or caste) happened in SA? Isn't faction killings is specialization of SA?

Quote:"apart from sri sri and gurram jashua, all other statues whom u destroyed existed at a time when the concept of "andhra" and "telangana" did not exist.one small examples-tikkana who was from nellore was the poet in the court of ganapathideva who ruled entire telugu region from your town orugallu."

So, you didn't understand why we destroyed the statues. We didn't destroyed the statues because the statue persons belongs to SA, we destroyed it because you installed those to show your supremacy, we rejected your idea of installing, but you forcefully installed under police protection. If we destroyed them because they belongs to SA, we would have destroyed many other statues of Nannayya, Alluri etc statues around the TG region.

Quote:"but then, there were several telangana leaders in tdp at that time including kcr.why did they not raise that issue then?"

If you and your leaders want United Andhra, why didn't they objected the parties support for Telangana formation before going to state assembly elections or when all party meeting conducted by Rosaiah when Chidambaram asked for there decision on the issue before Dec-9th 2009 night?

Quote:"next time when u go to a temple and bow befor Lord Venkateswara's idol, please remember that a person from your region insulted him by breaking his devotee's statue"

'God' means the one who knows every thing. God understands that we are not against to his devotees. Actually he may curse you for using him to show your supremacy on a region.

Any way you cant scare us any more with Gods fear. If such thing exists, Christiyanity/Muslim religions have been wiped out from face of earth by now.

Quote:"but one thing for which i CAN NEVER forgive the person who commited it(not ALL TG PEOPLE) is the destruction of the statue"As I said before, you give more value to a lifeless statue than a living human. That shows what kind of human are you.

They do not act like colonial masters. Most andha guys have trouble reconciling to the fact that Marwaris (r, not d) are not here to loot"

Explain what you mean. And please spend 2-3 days in Adilabad or Nizamabad town, talk to local people there and post your experiences here. I will turn into a true-blue T vaadi openly if you continue to have such good opinions about marwa(d)is.

I will turn into a true-blue T vaadi openly if you continue to have such good opinions about marwa(d)is.

We don't want you to become a T-vaadi. It will add no value to us have some Seemandhras becoming T-vaadis. When Telangana is formed we want to tell our future generations who the traitors are why such traitors were always there in our history - either it is during Indian Independence or Telangana Movement.

When Telangana is formed we want to tell our future generations who the traitors are why such traitors were always there in our history - either it is during Indian Independence or Telangana Movement.

And may we know who those traitors were during the Indian Independence. Please name one. Of course please don't name the Nizam and the few patela vellama dora Telanganas who opposed the merger in to the Indian Union.

Looks like you have no idea of the Independence Indian movement as it was foreign to you. You neither understand the concept of freedom and the value of democracy as it came to you without any hard work. Take some effort and understand that democracy is governance through representation and for the past so many years you had your representatives.

@green starhow many times shd i say that i abuse your region people who indulge in vandalism and leaders who instaigate them but NOT others.but when u abuse SA people, u scold the entire community as such.u are speaking about "u" turn on december 10th 2009, but much before that, i havebeen seeing for the past 5 yrs in many discussin forums, whenever a seemandhra guy says his opinion about why the state shd not be bifurcated, ur region guys bouse him in the filthiest of language.the very fisrst word that they type is a "maa behen ka gaali".u talkd about supremacy.im sure nobody forcd u to do a 'sashtaanga namaskaaram" to those statues.then where does the question of supremacy,dominance and opresson arise from???

in my opinion, the entire samaikayandhra versus telangana is nothing but a battle of supremacy between the elite class of seemandra and the neo-rich and upcoming elite of telangana.sadly, both groups are using the common people against each other.the upcoming elite of telangana consist of the people like ktr, DS's son, etc most of whom are 2nd generation highly educated people.they want to fight against the seemandhra contractors, real estate dealers, etc and replace their monoploy with a new telangana dominance whil SA business class still want to maintain their position at all costs.unfortunately the comon man on both sides shd relaise this and remain united . wether the state remains one or not, people shd not be divided.i would sum it up with a comment made by a srikakulam person during HMTVs dasha disha last yr-"kalisi undaali ane vaadu mothha nene dochukuntaa antunnadu.vidipovali ane vaadu nee pranthannu nuvvu dochuko na pranthanni nenu dochukunta antunnadu"

when someone from my region makes a mistake, i did condemn him.go through my previous posts.eg: punna rao, rajamundry skit, calling ur demand as anti national,etc.i condemned all of them.but when someone from ur region made a mistake, u never criticised them

iam from adilabad-to be more specific from bellampalli(town)ashoknagar(area)...no one in my whole town never opposes to marwaris or call them looters..infact we even have seemandhra doctors,officers working here in singareni(coal company)...marwaris are here in huge number(bcoz we are very near to maharashtra state)...they do their own buisness(gold,pawn)..they never participate in elections nor they give a shit about politics...they form their own colonies build their temples....they dont loot anything,they are dedicated to their own business...and are very honest on their own standards...

neither do we hate all seemandhra people here..there isnt a single incident of voilence against them...and they dont care if telangana is formed or not..they just come out of homes and watch the rallies and all forms of agitation here...

we say this time and again...you can live your life anywhere in AP OR whole INDIA,its your constitutional right...as long as you dont try to pull our legs with this jignotic linguistic dominance...or rhetorical "regionalism"...

we are fighting for SELF RULE,EXISTENCE OF OUR CULTURE(about which i can talk volumes as i hail from small town full of telangana culture)...so i request you all SA brothers to stop listening to rumours(as if you are going to be kicked ou of here) and help this division be merely geographical and not a division in between people...

when people of telangana anonymously wished for a seperate state...atlast when govt announced a way for a telangana state...you came up with a banner of "samaikyandra"

BROTHER is it not against the wish of the people you are arguingfor a united state??

IS NOT THIS A "MISTAKE" ON YOUR PART....if u could condemn all the mistakes of your friends and when you are so honest and genuine why dont you condemn this whole act of "samaikyandra"...i would request you brother please sum up your opinions that made you ask for samaikyandra in your nxt post....we will discuss about that..

Lanco hills is not built on stolen wakf land. the govt auctioned the land and that company bid higher than all other companies and bought it.

The land was a jagir. We all believe that all land of nizam time is people's land. courts have judged time and again that jagirdar's did not own the land allotted to them as jagirs, but were only custodians.Anyway, jagirs were abolished. the jagirdar then gave away that land (govt land) to the dargah. the HC has already given a judgement that the land is not wakf land but govt land. the wakf case now in the papers is for a different argument. also the dispute is not just with lancvo, it invloves, infosys, microsoft, wipro, emaar, isb etc.

Show me one fertilizer/pesticide dealer in Adilabad town who does not:

Marwadis are the biggest curse of the district. Sitting in a town near the coal mine you may not face it, but every day every hour the farmers of the distrcit are being victimised. here's how:

The fertilizer and pesticide dealers are mostly marwadis. they sell products in black. they hoard the products.

they contract to buy the cotton etc from the farmers at low prices by advancing fertilizer and pesticides (at a premuim !!). after the crop comes, they take the crop and pay after 3-6 months without interest. ALL the marwadis have a 'union' and refuse to do business in the normal way. they have the entire trade in their grip. the poor farmers are wilting both ways - in inputs and output.the politicians - cong or TRS are in the hands of these marwadis. not a single leader has ever raised his voice against these atrocities. infact it is an SA owned company Nagarjuna Agro that tried to break this stranglehold, but had to withdraw due to the complete opposition from the marwadis supported by the local leaders. this company tried to sell pesticides at mrp and agreed to buy the cotton by paying in advance. had the local leaders done some good to their people the farmers of the district would not be in this misery.

Heard it before from your Andhra media, Marathis , Marwadis, tamils are all looting Telangana while Andhras are selflessly developing Telangana, am I right?

Why draw any inference that is not in context at all?What POK said is well known methods of Marwaaris. You may want to call it looting. Fine! But how can deduce that POK said "Andhras are selflessly developing Telangana"?It is most T-vaadis who say only Andhras are looting TG and rest all are great friends.

ok dude i agree,marwaaris sell fertilizers,they have unions...now whats the point you are trying to make out???

so marwaris are biggest biggest looters and they are more dangerous to telangana than andhra crony capitalists????

by the way what are trying to prove by backing lagadapati's lanco hills and andhra companies?? and you say you are from telangana!!!!! "

I think you are not reading all the posts but commenting. The reference to marwadis came up in response to a post about SA capitalists. I mentioned that the Marwadis virtually squeeze the blood of TELANGANA farmers in Adilabad, yet people like Jai seem to like them.

Reg Lanco....why are you singling out one company? The company did not commit a crime. It is the govt that auctioned the land to various companies and developers. All of them are involved in the case now.

Being a Telanganite does not mean you have to be a dumb moron and accept whatever someone says. I consider the settlers from Rajasthan - Lambadas to be the biggest looters of Telangana. They have 'stolen' most of the jobs that should have gone to Telangana people.

I will continue to back any capitalist as long as he does the business as per law - whether he is from SA or T or somewhere else does not matter.

Now what's your problem? You want all of us to toe your line just because we are Telanganites. Sorry. We will do what we think is good for the larger society.

I mentioned that the Marwadis virtually squeeze the blood of TELANGANA farmers in Adilabad, yet people like Jai seem to like them.

First, you don’t believe you are a Telangana person. You may be living in Telangana but your sympathies and allegiance is towards Seemandhra – that could be because you migrated from Seemandhra to Telangana or born to Seemandhra parents.

Second, we are not ready to fight against Marwadis. You seem to be interested in doing it. Please go ahead and start a campaign against Marwadis. Since you know so much about Telangana I am quite sure you will know how much support you will receive from Telangana people in your fight.

I consider the settlers from Rajasthan - Lambadas to be the biggest looters of Telangana. They have 'stolen' most of the jobs that should have gone to Telangana people.

We believe you are one of those Seemandhra person’s posing as Telangana person trying to subvert our movement by creating new enemies. We don’t believe Lambadadas are the biggest looters of Telangana. Since you believe it, we encourage you to take up the cause and fight for the cause. Please do not direct us (Telanganas) on where and how we should be fighting because when you urge us we find your exhortations insincere and clearly devious.

most of the time, u people keep complaining of seemandhra capitalists and their monopolu,what if tommorow a new telangana monoploy is formed is it ok with you???for example kcr travels instead of kesineni, some narasimha jr.college instaead of narayana, komatireddy brothers instead of jc/rs brothers,sujai infotech instead of sathyam, etcif tommorow, these people carry out the same kind of "manipulating the government" in the form of gettinjg illegal licences, hundreds of acres of land for throw away prices, etc, is it ok with you???

I am responding to your post. But we will leave this topic after this.

I am not from Seemandhra posing as a Telanganite. I don't have to. If I were, I would post as a seemandhraite like many others do.I don't know if my origins some 500years ago are from SA. We don't have a genealogy going back so far. The velamas of Telangana claim to have migrated from Bihar during Chandragupta Maurya's time. Are they not Telanganites.

I belong to Mahaboobnagar. I have been refusing to be called as a 'Telanganite' as per the definition of some of you because I don't emphatize with people from Karimnagar or Warangal. They are as alien to me as is a Gunturite. I have exponded the differences many times in the past. To me the concept of Telangana is incorrect.

My idea of looting by Marwaris or lambadas may not be acceptable to you. So be it. I have my experiences and I will continue to go with my beliefs. I am not asking you to join me in a fight against them. Your blog is not the forum for that.

On your part you cannot arrogate to yourself the status of representing all the people of T. There are many of us who think differently.

At no point on your blog have I opposed your right to desire a T. As a participant in your blog I have opposed some statements made by many people. It was in response to such comments that the talk of Marwadis/lambadas has come. I have not asked you to join in the fight against them.

because you, being a telanganaite who has mograted t bengalooru are of the opinion that seemandhraites are the cause of all your region's problems and hence they should be kicked out.so , if the same logic is applied on you by someone else.then wat would be your reply?

"It is not OK with us. If they do illegal practices, we will protest against our own government "

then why dont u fight against the capitalistic policies of INDIAN GOVERNMENT.not of a.p. or future t.g.

Quote:"how many times shd i say that i abuse your region people who indulge in vandalism and leaders who instaigate them but NOT others."

Oh. yeah, you can abuse us from past five decades, and you can abuse us in internet with filthy language, but we should not do the same to you... wait a minute, what I understand from your argument is, if you use five filthy words then we allowed to us five or less filthy words against you, is that you are talking? The people talking in the internet are individuals, there are no moral rules about how to behave. All I can understand is, you can feel very bad about some of our filthy language because you think we use more than you. But you didnt get a question that why are you behaving like us in the first place when you want to point your fingers towards us. Did you guys ever apologize to use for breaking agreements, stealing jobs/funds in the past? What right do you have to expect us to behave nice with you? Atleast we have some proofs when we call you looters, but what proofs do you have when you call us drunkers? Talibans? and Anti-nationals?

Every one knows how frequently you guys use filthy words in your daily conversations each other in your area. Telangana telugu is some what better than yours using such words in regular conversation.

Quote:"im sure nobody forcd u to do a 'sashtaanga namaskaaram" to those statues.then where does the question of supremacy,dominance and opresson arise from???"

The question of supremacy, dominance and oppressor arises when you showed your regionalism when you forcefully installed the statues despite many objections from Telangana.

And finally, please stop your argument about showing our bad when you already scored thousands of points in that 'bad' category.

That means you accept that your SA gang looted TG so far. Now you fear that the new gang from TG start looting TG if state is separated.

This is the stupidest argument so far. If you think the SA gang looted the TG so far, why dont you people start punishing them, instead of spreading venom on TG for asking separation?

And about upcoming TG gang loots the TG in future, its all speculation, could be turn out true or false, but based on that speculation why do you want to reject TG peoples demand and allow to continue SA gangs looting in TG?

Quote:"but when someone from ur region made a mistake, u never criticised them"

Because we dont see them as wrong. They all looks no mistakes to us after you people back stabbed us by taking U turn on Telangana separation decision and never apologized. We used to criticize them before when you showed your true colors. (after Dec-09, 2009 )

Quote:"I consider the settlers from Rajasthan - Lambadas to be the biggest looters of Telangana. They have 'stolen' most of the jobs that should have gone to Telangana people."

They(settlers from Rajasthan - Lambadas) migrated to AP/TG, and may grab a govt job after getting there rightful legal local status as per law, unfortunately this law wasnt followed by SA where they get down the bus to HYD/TG first time in there life and grab a govt job by using a fake local certificate or by breaking the law(with the help of some one in higher position in that dept who hails from SA). If that wasnt happened in real world, then there would be no GO36 or GO610.

Quote:"because you, being a telanganaite who has mograted t bengalooru are of the opinion that seemandhraites are the cause of all your region's problems and hence they should be kicked out."

Now you showing your true colors, we never said SA should be kicked out, is this how you want to spread your venom? we only said they should be kicked out from the ruling the TG, this happens only if our region forms a new state.

go through my previous statements.did i,anywhere say that i am against seperate t???if u say that whatever telanganba people do is right and whatever seemandhra people do is wrong, then thers little i can do about it

you are talking about go 601, in june 1996, the very same kcr gave a detailed specch in ap assembly against the zonal sysytem.he said that surplus staff can be used anywhere in the statehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrzg-g4__5M

pity u dont consider his recent statements in support of the same system as a "u turn"

"we only said they should be kicked out from the ruling the TG,"so when an idiot says that sankranthiki ooru vellina vallani tirigi ranivvam, he means ONLY the ruling class.ok fine.thanks for enlightening me.the same fellow(pidamarthi ravi) on december 16th 2010 at trs mahagarjana warangal said that kcr okka maata chepthe memu okka seemandrudini kooda telanganalo undakunda chestaam.so okka seemandhrudu kooda means only ruling class wont be there in telangana.fine.thanks for opening my eyes.i onle saw a scene in hyderabad where the word "andhra" was blackened from the name of a small "andhra meals" mess but "british" library, "punjabi" dhaba, "karachi" bakery, bank of "america" names were very much intact. u say seemandhrites can do "anything else" other than ruling tg.pity u dont include even the freedom to name a small hotel as per ur wishes in the list of "anything else"hats off to your open and broad mindedness.

Quote:"go through my previous statements.did i,anywhere say that i am against seperate t???"

So, what do you mean actually by posting that srikakulam guy's golden conclusion on the Telangana movement? When you insulted TG people by saying there movement is nothing but following bunch of leaders, who trying to get a chance to loot telangana.... I assume you are against the Telangana formation.

Quote:"if u say that whatever telanganba people do is right and whatever seemandhra people do is wrong, then thers little i can do about it"

Your own words to you.... go through my previous statements.did i,anywhere say that what ever telangana people do is right? All I say is, you have no moral right to talk about our bad when your history(past and present) itself so much soaked with that same 'bad'.

You destroy the statues, but when we did the same you call it 'bad'. Your ministers manhandles few MLAs in assembly, but you became cry baby when one of our men do the same outside of assembly. When few of our leaders use abusive language against your region.. you call us we are uncivilized, but you think it is great when you call us Talibans, antinationals, drunkers. You get your own state by violence and say it was a great achievement, when we fight for same cause with much less and less violence you try to teach us the Gandhi path.

Double standards .......

You go and demand to put that Viveka Reddy in the jail, later you can talk about our 'bad' , Mr. Better among Bad.

"And please spend 2-3 days in Adilabad or Nizamabad town, talk to local people there and post your experiences here."

as i was born and brought up here in adilabad,i posted my experiences..moreover marwaris or lambaadis or gujarathis have nothing to do with telangana..they are well spread all over india..

"Reg Lanco....why are you singling out one company? The company did not commit a crime. It is the govt that auctioned the land to various companies and developers."

we are fighting against that same biased and corrupt govt..we want our own admistration..

"I will continue to back any capitalist as long as he does the business as per law - whether he is from SA or T or somewhere else does not matter."

"All of them are involved in the case now."

if all of them are invovled in crime.we should only point out the whole bunch ,but not lagadapaati alone!

WHY? JUSTIFY?

"I consider the settlers from Rajasthan - Lambadas to be the biggest looters of Telangana. They have 'stolen' most of the jobs that should have gone to Telangana people."

so did they occupy govt jobs in telangana? or do u find lambadas in satyam or wipro??

"I will continue to back any capitalist as long as he does the business as per law - whether he is from SA or T or somewhere else does not matter"

so you are backing those companies against whom cases have been filed..and they went according to law but still face cases..is that u r saying??

and you didnt know that the same law and many agreements have been broken against telangana??

"Now what's your problem? You want all of us to toe your line just because we are Telanganites."

did i say that??

"Sorry. We will do what we think is good for the larger society."

there is this NALLAMOTU CHAKRAVARTHY who says he hails from NIZAM TELANGANA he wrote "telugu roots" he strictly opposes telangana bcoz he loves telugu and wants telugu speaking people to remain united...he says its good for the "LARGER SOCIETY"..

A Hyderabad court on Friday ordered the police to register criminal cases against all members of the Justice Shri Krishna Commission, which had been constituted to look into the demand for a separate Telangana by the Centre.

A complaint had been filed at the Nampally court in Hyderbad, claiming that the eighth chapter of the commission's report aims at provoking communal sentiments. The government was accused of not making the controversial content of the chapter public.

According to sources, the 8th chapter advises the state government to 'manage' the media to curb the movement and warns that if it approves the formation of Telangana, the state could become a bastion for right-wing forces, Jihadi elements and Maoists.

The 8th chapter states that Telangana may become a hub for militant Hindutva forces, jihadi elements and the Naxal movement. The report goes on to warn that the All India Majlis-e Ittihad al-Muslimin may emerge as a strong party in Telangana and the new state may witness communal clashes.

Rehman, a resident of Hyderabad, had approached the court and claimed that the chapter would lead to communal tension in the state. He also sought action against the members of the committee under appropriate provisions of the Indian Penal Code.

The court, while hearing his plea, ordered the police to register criminal cases against all five members of the commission including Justice Shri Krishna.

A police official, whose jurisdiction the case falls under, said he would not be able to comment on the matter as they had not received a copy of the court's order.

Action would be taken in accordance with the law once they get the official order, he said.

[OMG..true face of Telanganites is now revealed in fully glory....Check out "Hyderabad a US visa fraud hub" at http://www.thehindu.com/news/the-india-cables/article1712443.ece?homepage=true ]

When the matters comes to violence or fraud or something bad in HYD you want to account it into Telangana, but when it comes to collected Taxes, where HYD belongs in bifurcation .. in such situations you want to account HYD into Andhra....

...that is called twisted tongues. I am sure those all fraud offices run by SA, ex., all major scams in AP involved with only SA leaders.

@jai,so u meen to say that telugu is synonymous with "andhramu"if i say the same thing u would pounce on me and ask "ante telangana vallu matladedhi telugu kaada?"one doubt i had since a long time,why is it that some of the famous telangana poets of middle ages like pothana and vemulavada bheema kavi wrote in "grandhikam" and not in telangana slang?where as those writers in the last 50-100 yrs like kaloji and dasaradhi wrote in the day to day spoken dialec

Telugu speakers in the former Hyderabad state called themselves andhras to distinguish from the non-Telugus. BTW they called the Telugus of Madras (today's andhras) as "toorpollu" (Easterners), not andhras.

Your doubt about grandhikam is not unique to Telugu alone. Nannaya's "first Telugu work" is almost totally Sanskrit with very little Telugu. Every classic literary woork across the world is in the "grandhikam" of the day.

Language evolves over time. Language as a factor of political unity has failed repeatedly.

Sebs & Croats speak nearly identical languages. Tito's attepmt to create an integrated language ("Serbo-Croat") and a country based on this failed miserably. This is also repeated in hundreds of other cases.

in the present telangana agitation, i can classify the people who are participating into 3 kinds:1.people like sujai, govt employees, politicians, lawyers, etc who represent the middle and upper middle class.they do what they are supposed to in terms of their profession and they get returns for it(profits for businessmen and salaries for employees)2.students and few sections of lower middle class, student's economic contribution towards the society is A BIG ZERO esp the ou students who are 30+ and yet shamelessly take scholarships, free hostel and mes food from the same govt which they fight against.they get MUCH MORE from the govt than what they desrve. students in terms of free acomodation and others in terms of free houses, pensions, ration cards,, etc.3.people who sincerely carry out their work and get much less from the society then what they ought to.especially farmers weavers and migrant labourers who are at the bottom most position financially.

in my opinion categories 1 and 2 HAVE NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to complain as they are either well of or are at the recieving end in govt schemes. but unfortunately they are in the forefront of the agitation. category 1 is using category 2 for their ambitions.students i fear are on the verge of becoming anti social elements like goondas and stone pelters.but category 3 is not being much vocal.telangana maha garjana, vidyarthi garjana, lawyerla meeting, brahmana sabha, etc etc but not a single public meeting of more than 1 lakh farmers of telangana agitation.

After Jagan Reddy's huge victory, do you think Telengana has again become very important for Congress? If Congress creates Telangana, it can claim credit for it and win in that region. Maybe TRS will merge with it. Otherwise it will lose in Telangana and also may be hugely reduced in the remaining of AP due to Jagan.

in the present telangana agitation, i can classify the people who are participating into 3 kinds: .........

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In current United Andhra movement there are two kinds of people participating.

1. Businessman who has vested interest in HYD. 2. And educated fools who believes HYD was always part of there Andhra state, they developed it from the scratch.

First category contains Seemandra Industrialists, media etc. They dont mind burning the entire state with there money when they think that if they spend some money today for United Andhra cause, they know they can profit 100 times to that by looting Telangana further.

It is waste of time to talk about the second category people.

They say whole SA is against the TG formation, among 5+ crore SA people, they cant even gather with 2k+ people to show there support towards United Andhra but always comes up with brainless theories about TG movement.

Sujai said "What if we destroy a statue not because of who it represents but who constructed it?"

It is a strange and irrational statement.It seems Sujai is a rational person under NTP (normal temp and pres) but turns irrational the moment he thinks of Telanagana!When some one talked about the motives behind Hussain's nude paintings of Hindu gods, Sujai said that those motives are subjective.But here he comes and ascertains the motive behind the tankbund statue demolition as if he knew it!By any chance did you do it Sujai? Another thing Sujai! Two wrongs never make a right and as a rational person you must have known it .Then why you took so much pain to write about Sanjeevareddy statue demolition?More over Sanjeevareddy was a politician and not an artiste of long gone era ! Another person commented that he would be concerned more about Sanjeevareddy than people who died long back..What a way to respect culture!

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