Gun Registration

I have heard one argument against gun registration being that if there was ever a takeover of the government, the bad guys would know which citizens to disarm. In VA, you don't have to register your firearms, but when you buy one, you still fill out a little form where you put your name and the weapon's serial #. Who has access to that? Also, if you have a concealed carry permit, is that pretty much like having a registered firearm?

I have heard one argument against gun registration being that if there was ever a takeover of the government, the bad guys would know which citizens to disarm. In VA, you don't have to register your firearms, but when you buy one, you still fill out a little form where you put your name and the weapon's serial #. Who has access to that? Also, if you have a concealed carry permit, is that pretty much like having a registered firearm?

The 4473 is what you are talking about and that stays with the gun shop. Now the logbook has to go to the ATF is a gun store gets their FFL taken away or goes out of business but I believe the 4473 gets shreded. On the CCP it just says you can carry you don't have to give them how many guns, what you carry, serial numbers, etc so not really. When I moved onto base in NC a few years back I had to register my guns. The actually looked at every gun I owned (10 at that time) and wrote down the serial numbers, model and calibre to every one. When I asked why they told "that way if we get a call to your house, we know to come in with a 9mm or an MP5.

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I'm wearing my tinfoil hat right now, but I believe that those 4473's may eventually be used to confiscate firearms.

The BATFE can enter a gun shop at any time and demand to see all the 4473's. They are free to take notes of any or every one. It's not much of a stretch to just take them under the "Patriot" Act or the pretense of domestic terrorism.

Tinfoil hat off now.

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I'm wearing my tinfoil hat right now, but I believe that those 4473's may eventually be used to confiscate firearms.

The BATFE can enter a gun shop at any time and demand to see all the 4473's. They are free to take notes of any or every one. It's not much of a stretch to just take them under the "Patriot" Act or the pretense of domestic terrorism.

The L.E. organizations have essentially become paramilitary. The "War on Terrorism" has changed the game. A nicety like a warrant has essentially been superseded by emergency powers.

__________________“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams

I'm wearing my tinfoil hat right now, but I believe that those 4473's may eventually be used to confiscate firearms.

Perhaps, but they are of limited use. The 4473 only documents the sale of a firearm from an FFL to an unlicensed individual. Unless the state has its own firearms registration system in place, the firearm gets lost in any subsequent private party sales.