But it starts with the regarding of women as alien objects, with buttons to push and lines to say to, after which they'll swoon and have sex with you. It ends, after many failures, with a deep hatred of women and everything they represent.

Which is absolutely not the case with that subreddit. Are there dicks on seddit? Yup. Are there people who match that stereotypical douchebag pick up artists you see on tv that people tend to dislike? Yup. But there are douchebags on every subreddit and honestly so I didn't feel it was worth mentioning.

As for differences in goals. I didn't really mention goals in that subreddit, just that the advice they give is to be confident and work on making yourself more appealing to people instead of some secret code to seducing women. Regardless of if the sedditor is trying to find his future wife, or just wants to bang one million women in his lifetime, the subreddit still focuses on inner game.

It's funny this post exploded like it did because I'm not even active in seddit or anything close to a "pickup artist". I just subscribed to them about 3 years ago because I'm a huge nerd and was looking up ways to improve myself and they had a lot of good advice and all that inner game stuff doesn't just apply to meeting women but it really does help you with everyday social interactions with people.

I just feel the need to say something when I see it getting put down as the butt of some joke as if it is some seedy underbelly of reddit where perverts get together to talk about how to trick women into sleeping with them, because it really is a fairly civil place and honestly I find that, on average, they seem to have healthier views about women than the rest of reddit.