Re: American made subs?

I choose to buy a American sub, if you dont like I could care less! I am not going to buy a Chinese made sub for the same price I can buy a American made sub. Someone on here stated that Sundown builds there subs in China so they could sell a quality sub so cheap, that is B.S.!!!!!! Even Jacob of Sundown stated that IA builds good equipment, guess what the Lethal Injection is the same price as the SA12, it has a 3" voice coil instead of a 2.5" and on ever forum I have been on the majority of the people say it is a hands down better sub, and it is made in America for the same money!!!!!! Obviously IA can build a quality sub here in America that is actually better, empoloyeeing Americans that pay taxes, how can they do that and still make a profit???

Oh and while I am here, Jacob, maybe you need to reread my post that I made on facebook that you deleted. I did ask a question. I said I heard you guys build your subs in China, is this true? I got no response so I later came back and made a second comment, I said it must be true I havnt heard from you, therfor I wont be buying your equipment.
It must be a sore subject with you, I asked Kicker the same thing on there facebook page and at least I got a honest answer and didnt get blocked.

Re: American made subs?

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

I choose to buy a American sub, if you dont like I could care less! I am not going to buy a Chinese made sub for the same price I can buy a American made sub. Someone on here stated that Sundown builds there subs in China so they could sell a quality sub so cheap, that is B.S.!!!!!! Even Jacob of Sundown stated that IA builds good equipment, guess what the Lethal Injection is the same price as the SA12, it has a 3" voice coil instead of a 2.5" and on ever forum I have been on the majority of the people say it is a hands down better sub, and it is made in America for the same money!!!!!! Obviously IA can build a quality sub here in America that is actually better, empoloyeeing Americans that pay taxes, how can they do that and still make a profit???

Oh and while I am here, Jacob, maybe you need to reread my post that I made on facebook that you deleted. I did ask a question. I said I heard you guys build your subs in China, is this true? I got no response so I later came back and made a second comment, I said it must be true I havnt heard from you, therfor I wont be buying your equipment.
It must be a sore subject with you, I asked Kicker the same thing on there facebook page and at least I got a honest answer and didnt get blocked.

BUY AMERICAN!!!!

Just because it's made in china doesn't mean it's cheap.

And the Lethal injection is NOT the same price as the SA, it cost about $60 more

Also Sundown audio is located HERE in America employeeing people who pay taxes. I was unaware that using chinese parts automatically meant that you were from China.

Re: American made subs?

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

I choose to buy a American sub, if you dont like I could care less! I am not going to buy a Chinese made sub for the same price I can buy a American made sub. Someone on here stated that Sundown builds there subs in China so they could sell a quality sub so cheap, that is B.S.!!!!!! Even Jacob of Sundown stated that IA builds good equipment, guess what the Lethal Injection is the same price as the SA12, it has a 3" voice coil instead of a 2.5" and on ever forum I have been on the majority of the people say it is a hands down better sub, and it is made in America for the same money!!!!!! Obviously IA can build a quality sub here in America that is actually better, empoloyeeing Americans that pay taxes, how can they do that and still make a profit???

Oh and while I am here, Jacob, maybe you need to reread my post that I made on facebook that you deleted. I did ask a question. I said I heard you guys build your subs in China, is this true? I got no response so I later came back and made a second comment, I said it must be true I havnt heard from you, therfor I wont be buying your equipment.
It must be a sore subject with you, I asked Kicker the same thing on there facebook page and at least I got a honest answer and didnt get blocked.

BUY AMERICAN!!!!

OMFG Man, just give it up. YOU ARE MAKING AN *** OF YOURSELF AND YOUR RETARDED DUMB STATEMENTS.

Re: American made subs?

And he clearly missed the part where Jacob said he doubled his American workforce in the past year.
If you weren't being such an ass about it, people wouldn't be giving you a hard time. But you come on brand new to a large forum, and come out blazing, and spew some of the most ignorant and jaded shit possible.
I know you're gonna say you don't care what anyone else thinks; and that's fine, because the feeling is mutual. But I just wanted to explain how you did everything possible wrong.

Located and built are two differnt things, they are made in China with Chinese parts.
IA might use some Chinese parts but they are built here.

Bro quit while ur ahead .. Cool you wanna buy american made subs .. Even know there china parts ..
Don't start bashing Sa cause then u just look like a tool bro .. There solid *** woofers same with ia same
With alot of other compaines built both places .. Bottom line you have no idea what your talking about and your reasoning is completely retarted .. I can whip up a bullshitt computer for ya are u gunna sell your bad asss china one to use it ??

Re: American made subs?

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

I choose to buy a American sub, if you dont like I could care less! I am not going to buy a Chinese made sub for the same price I can buy a American made sub.

Your "savings" is coming from somewhere. Odds are very good that if you're paying the same money for a woofer assembled in America the company is saving that 20$ or whatever on the quality of parts, warranty service. or SOMEWHERE. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

Someone on here stated that Sundown builds there subs in China so they could sell a quality sub so cheap, that is B.S.!!!!!!

The ENTRY LEVEL subs are built in China. The higher end ones use American made coils and are assembled in North Carolina.

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

Even Jacob of Sundown stated that IA builds good equipment, guess what the Lethal Injection is the same price as the SA12, it has a 3" voice coil instead of a 2.5" and on ever forum I have been on the majority of the people say it is a hands down better sub,

That's because it is a fine product and Jacob is the sort of guy that doesn't badmouth anybody. Also, someone calling one of those "hands down" better than the other sounds a bit dishonest. I'd say they're comparable. Just because one has a 3" coil vs. 2.5" coil means little when we're talking about a 600-800W sub. In fact you may find that the lighter 2.5" coil is more efficient if you're not pushing it into compression. There's a reason not every woofer has the most massive coil possible (and it isn't entirely cost)

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

and it is made in America for the same money!!!!!! Obviously IA can build a quality sub here in America that is actually better, empoloyeeing Americans that pay taxes, how can they do that and still make a profit???

Seems like your mind is made up, buy the IA if you believe that the extra 15-20$ in cost (assuming half of that is taxes and insurance for the employee) to have ALL CHINESE parts assembled by some slob making 10$ an hour is really going to save the country. Trust and believe that IA is making money and the profit margin on either product is the same for each company.

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

Oh and while I am here, Jacob, maybe you need to reread my post that I made on facebook that you deleted. I did ask a question. I said I heard you guys build your subs in China, is this true? I got no response so I later came back and made a second comment, I said it must be true I havnt heard from you, therfor I wont be buying your equipment.
It must be a sore subject with you, I asked Kicker the same thing on there facebook page and at least I got a honest answer and didnt get blocked.

You are a proven troll and came into this whole "debate" with a big chip on your shoulder. You're the sort of person with whom I wouldn't want to associate my business either. You posted clearly looking to start a confrontation, the post was removed to avoid confrontation. Seems like a wise move from where I sit.

Originally Posted by Reinhardt

BUY AMERICAN!!!!

Except for amps and probably 90% of the stuff in your house and half the food in your refrigerator. Get a grip. Your anger is very misdirected and you need to start reading a lot of books to figure out what really happened. The fact is the only real lucrative "manufacturing" left in USA apart from war machines is McDonalds (the government considers that manufacturing to help their statistics) and being a welfare mother/brood sow where you manufacture illigitimate babies to make a great income with an all inclusive benefits package. As I said, buy a cheap Chinese made sub and spend some money at a local farm or restaurant, or even go get a haircut or something that actually puts some cash into the pocket of one of your neighbors.

Located and built are two differnt things, they are made in China with Chinese parts.
IA might use some Chinese parts but they are built here.

They most likely use ALL Chinese parts on their entry level lines. The 15$ price difference is likely the cost of labor it takes to assemble the parts here. As I said, you could buy the Sundown and spend the extra 15$ at a local farmers market and put more money into a productive American's pocket when you consider of the "cost" to the consumer that you pay for labor the actual laborer sees less than half.