Yes, and look for a PM. The rib and bead appear solid to a one eyed shooter instead of semi transparent but you have to hold a lower gun over the trap house or else your barrel will block your on/shoulder eye from seeing the target leave the house. I'm sure Bill will chime in with his XDSolution gadget but even he has admitted to me that you cannot hold a high gun with the gadget.

If you are not going to be aware of that big long black thing in front of your eyeball, (the barrel) you might as well shoot from the hip. It's in your vision and your brain takes it into account, not matter how much you think you can tell it to ignore that big long black thing in front of your eyeball. There is a relationship there, whether you want to admit it or not. Even when you steer a car, you do it in relationship to the feedback you are getting from your vision. Mark

For me I know its there but it is so vaguely. As such I use the absolute smallest front n mid beads I can find. Yes I can be consistent/effective with no beads. But the holes ate there and I don't want to waste them.

I reference the beads for the purpose of assuring my gun mount is correct. When calling for the bird my eyes are well above the barrel looking for my target. Once I have visually acquired the target my reaction is to shoot, the target breaks. If by chance, and it occasionally happens, I reference my beads in relation to the target, it's a miss.

I notice no one is answering my last question. How do you determine when to stop your gun going back to a hard left on 3, 4, or 5? If you're right handed, chances are you cheat your hold to the right of the center line.

What if a face wind picks up? How do you determine how high to swing or when to stop your swing and execute the shot? Now, you may have to shoot above the bird, or even covering it?