Oh, but wait a minute, you might "offend" Muslims if you were to teach the Bible in schools.(Sarcasm) Trust me, I'm all for children learning the Bible, but I don't think the liberal minded teachers in America will have it! The Bible is like kryptonite to them. Besides, then they will say you are forcing children to be religious which is cutting into their freedom of choice. If parents want their children to learn the Bible they can read it together with them at home. That's what my Dad did.

<quoted text>I call BS! Lol. Such a popular "story" that has existed ALL THIS TIME.. I am HAPPY and content and will spend ETERNITY in heaven. Will continue to tell people about my RESCUE and be peaceful. Good luck to u sir and God bless

Other stories have lasted longer and been just as popular albeit in other than middle eastern and European areas... The Chinese story of man and the religious views were written about, documented and taught for millennium before the Jewish/Christian story line.... Before that several civilizations came and went with completely different belief systems... You can tell anyone anything you like and I reserve the right to call such belief Delusional...

<quoted text>Whether viruses alive or not it's totally irrelevant. We are talking about a human being. You guys talk about evidence all the time, we have all the evidence we need to know that fetus will become human being if not aborted or miscarried.

do whut wrote:

<quoted text>No please explain how science tells us that this unborn child will not become a born child. Please explain to me how science tells us that this organism is not living.

_Ummm_ wrote:

<quoted text>Define human. And define living. Both must be very clear before you go jumping down that rabbit hole.

I was serious. You need to define both of these things. At the least, define "human" and define what "living" is for a human (since I know you cannot define life in general). Why do ignore this?Once your parameters are clear, perhaps somebody would be able to respond to you.

<quoted text>A man who flatters his neighbor spreads a net for his feet.

As much as I enjoy reading the ambiguous pearls that grace the bumper stickers one sees when driving, especially through the Deep South and some parts of Kentucky, I find them valuable as a source of humor, not building blocks of a comprehensive, integrated Weltanschauung. As fate would have it, I enjoy one-liners the most: WWJD? Nurses do it better. Dont come aknockin when this vans a rocking. The Bible says it, I believe it and thats that.

<quoted text>Just as our Lord did not forbid us from discerning the character of fools, the Book of Proverbs commends this assessment as a necessity for those who would be wise. Several reasons are given for the need to discern between those who are fools and those who are wise.1. TO ASSOCIATE WITH FOOLS IS BOTH UNWISE AND UNPLEASANT. To some degree folly is contagious, and association with a fool tends to diminish our ability to discern truth from error and wisdom from folly.Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge (14:7).He cuts off his own feet, and drinks violence Who sends a message by the hand of a fool (26:6).Proverbs offers hope to parents that foolishness can be cured if detected early and disciplined diligently.4. FOOLS MUST BE DEALT WITH DIFFERENTLY THAN THOSE WHO ARE WISE. We cannot deal with all men in the same way. Our response to people must be based on the kind of character they have demonstrated.He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself, And he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself. Do not reprove a scoffer, lest he hate you, Reprove a wise man, and he will love you (9:7-8).Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him. Answer a fool as his folly deserves, Lest he be wise in his own eyes (26:4-5).These considerations necessitate discerning the character of others and, in particular, that of a fool. Not only will we be able to see foolishness in others as a result of our study in Proverbs, we will also see a greater measure of it in ourselves. May God enable us to be honest with ourselves, to confess our foolishness, 2 and to forsake it as sinful and destructive, both to ourselves and to others.Characteristics of A FoolIt is much easier to identify a fool in terms of what he is not than in terms of what he is. Notice the following characteristics of the fool as the Book of Proverbs describes him.1. THE FOOL IS UNRIGHTEOUS. The fool hates what is holy, righteous, and good, and he loves evil.Desire realized is sweet to the soul, But it is an abomination to fools to depart from evil (13:19).Doing wickedness is like sport to a fool; And so is wisdom to a man of understanding (10:23).Fools mock at sin, But among the upright there is good will (14:9).2. THE FOOL IS UNWISE. Throughout Proverbs the fool is the counterpart of the wise. Wisdom is contrasted with folly. The fool does not possess wisdom, cannot obtain wisdom, and would not obtain it if he could.THE FOOL DOES NOT POSSESS WISDOM;

According to the definition of a fool you posted, it does not show atheists as fools other than not observing what YOU claim as holy. What is holy is arbitrary. What is sin is arbitrary and subjective. I can make claim you are a fool and the claim is just as subjective as yours. Just pointing the consistently vague ideas in the bible.

do whut wrote, "<quoted text>No please explain how science tells us that this unborn child will not become a born child. Please explain to me how science tells us that this organism is not living. "

_Ummm_ wrote, "<quoted text>Define human. And define living. Both must be very clear before you go jumping down that rabbit hole."

I was serious. You need to define both of these things. At the least, define "human" and define what "living" is for a human (since I know you cannot define life in general). Why do ignore this?Once your parameters are clear, perhaps somebody would be able to respond to you.

A living organism = life. Even if you consider a fetus a parasite, fleas and ticks are still living things.

Why do you try to separate a human from a potential human. Do you consider an infant a potential adult? Or a living thing?

<quoted text>Once birthed, sure. That is a viable solution. So is adoption. So is the family raising the child.Just because a person doesn't want a child doesn't mean they have the right to murder the child, whether born or unborn.

The controversy is, should a woman be forced to carry the fetus. The government feels they cannot be forced to carry.

<quoted text>I explained what happens to the unborn. They still need a physical body, even if they are so righteous that they do not need to be tested.

Many abortions are due to potential health problems if the mother, so if you force the mother to carry and bear, you could be forcing the death if the mother. Keep I'm mind this woman might already have children she is trying to raise. So you are potentially jeopardizing the well being of her other children.

<quoted text>According to the definition of a fool you posted, it does not show atheists as fools other than not observing what YOU claim as holy. What is holy is arbitrary. What is sin is arbitrary and subjective.I can make claim you are a fool and the claim is just as subjective as yours.Just pointing the consistently vague ideas in the bible.

In your rush to judgement,along with Chrome and Hummm,you assumed that I was referring to Atheists.I am calling the judgement of all 3 of you into question..Obviously,for whatever reason,you felt that what I posted applied to you,as Atheists.....Did you not read this part"These considerations necessitate discerning the character of others and, in particular, that of a fool. Not only will we be able to see foolishness in others as a result of our study in

Proverbs, we will also see a greater measure of it in ourselves. May God enable us to be honest with ourselves, to confess our foolishness, 2 and to forsake it as sinful and destructive, both to ourselves and to others.

<quoted text>The controversy is, should a woman be forced to carry the fetus. The government feels they cannot be forced to carry.

Why does the government care if a man punches a woman in the stomach and causes her to lose the child? It seems the will of the mother is the only variable. In that case, what is the difference between a woman deciding in month 6 of a pregnancy that she doesn't want a kid vs. deciding she doesn't want her 6 month old child?

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