Grumpy Cat:Grumpy Cat: My husband's daughter has been missing since 1999. This story just brings up all your worst fears. But it makes you wonder if she's still alive. We haven't a clue.

/not so cool story

I'm sure she's on all the sites. A local NYC newscast did a piece on her a few months back after another big case of someone missing returned. It just brings it all up. Especially with Mother's Day coming up. Her mother still doesn't handle it well. Obviously.

I hope your husband (and all involved) gets the closure he desperately needs. Whether happy or sad, closure is an important thing. I know words on the internet aren't worth much, but I'm sorry for your situation. Best of luck.

ReverendJasen:FTA: "It's a good possibility one of them is [the father]," Tomba said.

Are they stupid? Unless she gave birth to a reincarnated female Jesus, it's approximately a 100% possibility one of these three cocksuckers is the father. She didn't leave captivity for 10 years.

I think the point that they're making is that at this time it is difficult to know for sure if these three particular scumbags are the only scumbags who had contact with these girls. I'm sure they're aware of the horrifying possibility that these three scumbags actually allowed others to rape these girls.

Just an awful, awful story, with so many truly horrifying details and possibilities.

Donnchadha:How long before somebody slow shout talks to her like she's a caveman.

"HELLO! WELCOME. TO. AMERICA. WE. LOOKING. FOR. YOU. LONG. TIME."

No problem, she'll become a lawyer:

"When I see a solar eclipse, like the one I went to last year in Hawaii, I think 'Oh no! Is the moon eating the sun?' I don't know. Because I grew up in a basement in Cleveland--that's the way I think. But one thing I do know is that my client is due compensation for the pain and suffering caused by his neighbor's violation of the terms of the HOA agreement with that basketball hoop over the garage."

HatMadeOfAss:Grumpy Cat: Grumpy Cat: My husband's daughter has been missing since 1999. This story just brings up all your worst fears. But it makes you wonder if she's still alive. We haven't a clue.

/not so cool story

I'm sure she's on all the sites. A local NYC newscast did a piece on her a few months back after another big case of someone missing returned. It just brings it all up. Especially with Mother's Day coming up. Her mother still doesn't handle it well. Obviously.

I hope your husband (and all involved) gets the closure he desperately needs. Whether happy or sad, closure is an important thing. I know words on the internet aren't worth much, but I'm sorry for your situation. Best of luck.

Thank you. It's been a sad journey for them. I hope closure comes soon. And I appreciate your kind words.

MelGoesOnTour:I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

Yes, I wonder what on earth could possibly deter these women from just walking away whistling. I am sure the threats of torture and death of not only them, but perhaps even the little girl were never taken seriously. Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

"Tomba said investigators were working to determine if the girl had ever left the house, but said she likely would have gone unnoticed by police who were not looking for a child."

They apparently weren't looking for the teens/adults much either.

"On Monday evening, Berry began screaming from behind the locked front door of the home where she and the other women were being held. Neighbors heard her and held kick open the door and then called police, ending what one FBI agent called the women's "nightmare. " "

I'm really curious about the conditions these women were held in. Was it a locked, sound-proof bunker where they were never allowed to leave? Was it a fairly normal house, but the women feared for their lives about trying to escape? Was at least one of the brothers always present, 24 hours a day, every day?... It's fascinating that it took this long for one of captives to shout for help, so there must have been some sort of barrier, whether physical or mental.

I'd give it a few days/weeks before stating that so confidently...and that's if you don't even consider early reports that this little girl is just one of multiple babies that were conceived in this hell hole.

I think this is something you should bring up to your congressman. I think it would be quite suitable for a lot of these farktards to be dropped off in the hills of NK. No one is going to ask for them to be released. Ever.

CNN earlier aired some footage from a local affiliate of Amanda's first phone call to her grandmother. They were in grandma's living room and obviously had her permission but I doubt they had Amanda's. You could hear every word both sides said. I found it really disgusting to invade on such a private moment..

I really wish you guys would get behind the convention of warning us when there's a farking auto-playing add on these links. I'd like to keep this job that I pretend I'm doing while reading Fark all day.

MelGoesOnTour:I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

Turns out that a decade of torture, rape, threats, mental conditioning, might change how you see the world and what you think you can do.

Meh, a public defender only has to do what is in the best interest of their client. They don't have to like their client, they don't even have to try to get him out of punishment. The best interest of these guys is to spend life in a mental ward. Showing they are insane shouldn't be hard.

al-Mundane:I really wish you guys would get behind the convention of warning us when there's a farking auto-playing add on these links. I'd like to keep this job that I pretend I'm doing while reading Fark all day.

Sorry that we are making your laziness and slacking off at work more difficult.

99.998er:MelGoesOnTour: I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

Yes, I wonder what on earth could possibly deter these women from just walking away whistling. I am sure the threats of torture and death of not only them, but perhaps even the little girl were never taken seriously. Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

Semantics. It's the same reason we call POWs survivors. Physical death isn't the only kind of situation one survives from. Mental abuse and torture can be harrowing situations, and those that escape can rightfully say they survived.

Sir Mirriam and Mr. Weber perhaps have explained it best:

sur·vived sur·viv·ing

intransitive verb1: to remain alive or in existence : live on2: to continue to function or prosper

transitive verb1: to remain alive after the death of <he is survived by his wife>2: to continue to exist or live after <survived the earthquake>3: to continue to function or prosper despite : <they survived many hardships>

99.998er:MelGoesOnTour: I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

Yes, I wonder what on earth could possibly deter these women from just walking away whistling. I am sure the threats of torture and death of not only them, but perhaps even the little girl were never taken seriously. Then of course there is the Stockholm Syndrome, but I am sure that in just 10 years it would not have time to settle in with them. But you are right, something doesn't ring up. I am guessing they enjoyed being beaten and raped.

HatMadeOfAss:Grumpy Cat: Grumpy Cat: My husband's daughter has been missing since 1999. This story just brings up all your worst fears. But it makes you wonder if she's still alive. We haven't a clue.

/not so cool story

I'm sure she's on all the sites. A local NYC newscast did a piece on her a few months back after another big case of someone missing returned. It just brings it all up. Especially with Mother's Day coming up. Her mother still doesn't handle it well. Obviously.

I hope your husband (and all involved) gets the closure he desperately needs. Whether happy or sad, closure is an important thing. I know words on the internet aren't worth much, but I'm sorry for your situation. Best of luck.

He should visit a psychic, I hear this woman has a knack for it, and a great track record:

al-Mundane:I really wish you guys would get behind the convention of warning us when there's a farking auto-playing add on these links. I'd like to keep this job that I pretend I'm doing while reading Fark all day.

I don't always read fark at work, but when I do, I use my smart phone. with the farking volume turned off.

MindStalker:Endive Wombat: I would not want to be their public defender.

Meh, a public defender only has to do what is in the best interest of their client. They don't have to like their client, they don't even have to try to get him out of punishment. The best interest of these guys is to spend life in a mental ward. Showing they are insane shouldn't be hard.

I have serious doubts that they could establish an insanity defense for someone who engaged in his crime -- and kept it hidden -- for more than a decade. These guys were evil, not insane. I'd be absolutely shocked if they could successfully plead insanity.

I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

I too have read about chains and ropes, but I also read in an article that one of the women was let out from time to time. I understand there might have been some mental manipulation or fear of revenge, but I have to agree, there are a few things that don't wrap up all nice and tidy.

Seriously? Look up Stockholm Syndrome. Get back to us once you've informed yourself.

Semantics. It's the same reason we call POWs survivors. Physical death isn't the only kind of situation one survives from. Mental abuse and torture can be harrowing situations, and those that escape can rightfully say they survived.

Sir Mirriam and Mr. Weber perhaps have explained it best:

sur·vived sur·viv·ing

intransitive verb1: to remain alive or in existence : live on2: to continue to function or prosper

transitive verb1: to remain alive after the death of <he is survived by his wife>2: to continue to exist or live after <survived the earthquake>3: to continue to function or prosper despite : <they survived many hardships>

Once you've had a sex slave in your basement for a few months, you can't just let her go. She would run to the cops and you would be thrown in jail. So once you're tired of her, your only choices are killing her or keeping her there for 10+ years. These guys did the honorable thing and even got the first one some company so she wouldn't be lonely.

starbuckisagirl:CNN earlier aired some footage from a local affiliate of Amanda's first phone call to her grandmother. They were in grandma's living room and obviously had her permission but I doubt they had Amanda's. You could hear every word both sides said. I found it really disgusting to invade on such a private moment..

There is a really strange aspect of our society where anyone who is a victim of a tragedy is fair game to have their most private and painful moments made available for public consumption and rubber-necking without second thought, and it's really odd to me. It really struck me during the Boston bombing how people had no qualms looking the mangled bodies of victims. And I'm not talking about people driven by reptilian minds in the dark recesses of teh intrawebbings, but the friggin Associated Press releasing photos of people in the most tragic, destructive and painful moments of their lives. People got all up in a tizzy about 4Chan or Reddit invading privacy by posting photos of the crowd before the bombing looking for possible suspects, but had absolutely no qualms with analyzing the look on an innocent victim's victims face at the moment he realized his legs were blown off.

I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

I too have read about chains and ropes, but I also read in an article that one of the women was let out from time to time. I understand there might have been some mental manipulation or fear of revenge, but I have to agree, there are a few things that don't wrap up all nice and tidy.

Seriously? Look up Stockholm Syndrome. Get back to us once you've informed yourself.

I know exactly what Stockholm Syndrome is. There is no reason to assume I lack this knowledge because I am not ready to accept only one side of the story being fed to us by the media when the police have released few details.Gather information,think for yourself and then make a conclusion before jumping to them.

orclover:The kids are farked. The kidnap victims are farked. The only people not farked is the kidnappers because they will serve less time in jail than their victims. They should be on the court house porch being burned at the stake.

starbuckisagirl:CNN earlier aired some footage from a local affiliate of Amanda's first phone call to her grandmother. They were in grandma's living room and obviously had her permission but I doubt they had Amanda's. You could hear every word both sides said. I found it really disgusting to invade on such a private moment..

I agree. On the drive to work this AM one of the stations started playing the phone call. I immediately changed it due to disgust.

Theaetetus:orclover: The kids are farked. The kidnap victims are farked. The only people not farked is the kidnappers because they will serve less time in jail than their victims. They should be on the court house porch being burned at the stake.

InmanRoshi:starbuckisagirl: CNN earlier aired some footage from a local affiliate of Amanda's first phone call to her grandmother. They were in grandma's living room and obviously had her permission but I doubt they had Amanda's. You could hear every word both sides said. I found it really disgusting to invade on such a private moment..

There is a really strange aspect of our society where anyone who is a victim of a tragedy is fair game to have their most private and painful moments made available for public consumption and rubber-necking without second thought, and it's really odd to me. It really struck me during the Boston bombing how people had no qualms looking the mangled bodies of victims. And I'm not talking about people driven by reptilian minds in the dark recesses of teh intrawebbings, but the friggin Associated Press releasing photos of people in the most tragic, destructive and painful moments of their lives. People got all up in a tizzy about 4Chan or Reddit invading privacy by posting photos of the crowd before the bombing looking for possible suspects, but had absolutely no qualms with analyzing the look on an innocent victim's victims face at the moment he realized his legs were blown off.

I'm so glad these folks were rescued. But, well, I'm finding it difficult to believe that, unless they were in chains, three adult females could not figure out a way to get away from that place over time. Something doesn't ring up.

I too have read about chains and ropes, but I also read in an article that one of the women was let out from time to time. I understand there might have been some mental manipulation or fear of revenge, but I have to agree, there are a few things that don't wrap up all nice and tidy.

In a remarkably coincidental speech given one week ago, before these women were found, Elizabeth Smart discussed why some human trafficking victims don't run:Smart said she "felt so dirty and so filthy" after she was raped by her captor, and she understands why someone wouldn't run "because of that alone."

Smart spoke at a Johns Hopkins human trafficking forum, saying she was raised in a religious household and recalled a school teacher who spoke once about abstinence and compared sex to chewing gum.

"I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm that chewed up piece of gum, nobody re-chews a piece of gum, you throw it away.' And that's how easy it is to feel like you know longer have worth, you know longer have value," Smart said. "Why would it even be worth screaming out? Why would it even make a difference if you are rescued? Your life still has no value."