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Everyone misses the old days except for those who were not here for it. I for one started majorly PvPing in RoI so I don't have much to look back on other than grouping with friends and having a good time. Those days are long gone and PvP will probably never be like that again. Leaderboards going down, KBs are pretty much every kill you get, Ranking is like nothing, and the list goes on. LOTRO PvP is over for me for the most part. I'm only really on if I'm extremely bored or if a friend asks me to.

As Volo mentioned the names you listed are mostly freeps and their creep alts. The pvp is dictated by when those who have their creep alts switch sides.

Enjoy the new "good" PvP.

The new pvp on nimrodel is a bunch of ranked op freeps killing greenies , lots of fun

i mean , the problem with nimrodel is that the same people make the difference in the balance , ROR : lots of creeps camping GV !! , U10 : most of that creeps flipped freepside and we had Grams Camps every day :/

You can see the same players that were playing OP spiders now playing their RK/Minstrel again

1. Doilan can 1 shot my creeps in grams with him swinging his weapons it in GV.
2. It's true what Volo said, most of those are veterans.
3. Toq is a bad influence we all know that. U_U
4. You can't say it's a grams - lugz fight because I have been on lately and the fights have been TA mostly, if not they are moving around the map depending on the freep raid leader. Last time i logged in was about 3 days ago and the only places we didn't fight where DG and AOP. We even fought in almost all the outpost.

But yea, if you only log when its a GV or Grams camp and switch to the side winning that's all your going to get. I've been only playing my warg over 2 months now, for the moors and each time it goes to a GV camp I log of and go deeding or to do something else until freeps re group and push back the map.

Props to those veterans that are leading raids on both sides.

But I have to agree with what people are saying, the KB deeds where the last straw. I stopped paying my VIP because I wasn't going to go to a moors where you have to be a raidbaby to do something. So I rather be on my warg hunting people who think they are safe in a raid.

I think that some of the action has been moved (somewhat) because of the stupid 'grams camp week' we had. Because let's face it, it was a Grams Camp. Yes, it moved to Lugz, but only as Kumitz proudly said in OOC, 'this how we make renown'. For the most part of the week, I'd log in, ask action, be at Grams.. ./yawn. I think by the time it was done, there were several of us that refused to take part in it, some would switch to creepside, I sat on the sideline. Others were still there blissfully under the impression of the constant rinse and repeat action (what I'd consider farming in a PvE sense) was PvP action.

Now, when there's a mention of moving to Grams, I try to take the group away from it. Granted, doesn't always work, can't always get people to understand of how to 'keep the creeps happy' in order to maintain somewhat action. I will say that PvP has been getting better slightly, people are going to QQ either side, it's going to be the nature of PvP, there will be a winner, there will be a loser (Unless you have a full on raid double KB, which case I'd pay good money to see that).

Oh as for GV Camps? Well... I do sometimes like them for a while since it's right next to our guaranteed rez so you can quickly get back to the fight. This doesn't stop my suicidal attempts, if I see something I can kill, I'm normally going in. (QQs at WL bubbles here)

Credits got to go to The Fallen guys who will switch sides trying to balance out the PvP, I'm sure there are others, but I just like targeting Shwasted's warg xD. I think that until people learn how to compensate for the current PvP imbalance (won't discuss this, as several more experience players have already expressed their views) by sort of working with the other side to maintain 'action' it will die. Yes, total domination may be your type of gameplay, but by doing so, you'll kill action. What if it flipped and you were on the other side? This is mainly for the Outposts, I personally don't give a &&&& about the renown buffs from the keeps. Yes, I may have recently since I was trying to push for R9 before I left for the summer when I knew I'd be playing less, but normally I don't really care.

As for the actual thread? I've run into Droi on the rare occasion thinking I've got a champ, how hard can a champ be? Hang on... where'd my morale go?

Thanks for saying everything i have been thinking u make some awsome points here and u may get some hate for it but screw them this needed to be said only problem i dont think its gonna help in any way but again tyvm ....btw thanks for the mention of kicking my &&&&&& bk warg's butt lmao

I think that some of the action has been moved (somewhat) because of the stupid 'grams camp week' we had. Because let's face it, it was a Grams Camp. Yes, it moved to Lugz, but only as Kumitz proudly said in OOC, 'this how we make renown'. For the most part of the week, I'd log in, ask action, be at Grams.. ./yawn. I think by the time it was done, there were several of us that refused to take part in it, some would switch to creepside, I sat on the sideline. Others were still there blissfully under the impression of the constant rinse and repeat action (what I'd consider farming in a PvE sense) was PvP action.

Now, when there's a mention of moving to Grams, I try to take the group away from it. Granted, doesn't always work, can't always get people to understand of how to 'keep the creeps happy' in order to maintain somewhat action. I will say that PvP has been getting better slightly, people are going to QQ either side, it's going to be the nature of PvP, there will be a winner, there will be a loser (Unless you have a full on raid double KB, which case I'd pay good money to see that).

Oh as for GV Camps? Well... I do sometimes like them for a while since it's right next to our guaranteed rez so you can quickly get back to the fight. This doesn't stop my suicidal attempts, if I see something I can kill, I'm normally going in. (QQs at WL bubbles here)

Credits got to go to The Fallen guys who will switch sides trying to balance out the PvP, I'm sure there are others, but I just like targeting Shwasted's warg xD. I think that until people learn how to compensate for the current PvP imbalance (won't discuss this, as several more experience players have already expressed their views) by sort of working with the other side to maintain 'action' it will die. Yes, total domination may be your type of gameplay, but by doing so, you'll kill action. What if it flipped and you were on the other side? This is mainly for the Outposts, I personally don't give a &&&& about the renown buffs from the keeps. Yes, I may have recently since I was trying to push for R9 before I left for the summer when I knew I'd be playing less, but normally I don't really care.

As for the actual thread? I've run into Droi on the rare occasion thinking I've got a champ, how hard can a champ be? Hang on... where'd my morale go?

You are a noob favir , :3 but you're right !!! that's why most of the time , the action on nimrodel sucks , there are a lot of people just looking for easy points