i kept it pretty simple and relatively inexpensive. it's nothing special or crazy or show quality, just a simple, but powerful, good sounding 2-way active front stage with a sub.

-for the HU i have a Pioneer 880PRS.

-i'm running the PG RSD65CS's upfront. mids in the stock door locations and the tweeters flush mounted in the factory kick panels on-axis.

-for a sub i am using a single Dayton Reference H.O. ten. it is in a strange looking but highly effective ported enclosure. it is in .7 cubic ft NET, tuned to 30hz using a 3" round port with a flare on each end. half of the 24" long port is tucked away inside the enclosure but the whole 24" could not fit inside so the other half is external. may look a bit odd but it sounds way better than it looks. function over form is the way i see it, but it doesn't look THAT bad IMO.

-for power i am running DD (Digital Designs) amplifiers. i have an S4 for the front comps, and a C2a bridged for the sub. the S4 for those who don't know about it, does 200x2 AND 100x2. a 4 channel with staggered outputs. so 200 per RSD mid, and 100 per RSD tweeter. the C2a can do 620 watts at 4 ohms bridged to the sub.

-for rca's i am using the knukoncepts krystal kable. power wire is whatever 4 gauge power wire has been in my last 3 cars (from a Rockford kit if i remember right). speaker wire is plain old radio shack 16 and 18 gauge.

-also the doors are deadened and sealed using Elemental Designs Edead V1SE2. i might continue to deaden more of the car but i find the doors to be most important.

ok on with the pictures.....

first i will share a couple pictures of the car itself, since i also care about how the exterior looks. :-)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2497.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2543.jpg

ok onto the system pics...
the HU
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2597.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2600.jpg

the big 3, sorry for the dirtyness under the hood.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2334.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2326.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2318.jpg

stuckinok

04-25-2008, 10:15 PM

I likes

clean never goes out of style

rollerdj

04-25-2008, 10:15 PM

lookin good. teh dj give two tumbs up. :)

tcguy85

04-25-2008, 10:21 PM

thanks dudes! :)

tez4life

04-26-2008, 02:38 AM

Nice clean simple install. It sounds good, thats the main thing.

I have been checking out your install since you first posted up a review of the PG RSDs and have been very impressed. Very nice, sir.

Goindef154

04-26-2008, 05:26 AM

Looks good man, like the car too.

tcguy85

04-26-2008, 08:36 AM

thanks guys. i finally feel that i'm pretty much done. unless i blow a mid or tweet everything will stay as is for a while. i might do some more deadening sometime but other than that i think i'm good for a while.

bigbangtheory

04-26-2008, 08:44 AM

Perfect, wouldn't change a thing.

MikeyB

04-26-2008, 02:28 PM

**** and clean! Me likes :D

Dozy_production

04-26-2008, 02:34 PM

edit: what kind of foam material did you use on your inner door panel?

tcguy85

04-26-2008, 08:36 PM

edit: what kind of foam material did you use on your inner door panel?

on the plastic door card i used some Edead v1se2, some expanding foam, and then filled all the empty cavities with polyfil (the white stuff you see). the doors make absolutely zero noise at all. no rattles, no buzzes, they are dead!

Powers

04-26-2008, 08:50 PM

I looked at getting a tC, but figured I wouldn't keep it for long, so I got the E. :)

BrianChia

04-26-2008, 08:59 PM

Install looks great. I see you upgraded the box.

Great choice of subwoofer too. :)

pd8731

04-26-2008, 09:03 PM

I am looking at getting a tC. Could you do me a huge favor?

Take the max square dimensions of the trunk? Like the absolute max a perfectly square box would fit.

Please.

DejaWiz

04-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Very nice man!

tcguy85

04-26-2008, 11:11 PM

I am looking at getting a tC. Could you do me a huge favor?

Take the max square dimensions of the trunk? Like the absolute max a perfectly square box would fit.

Please.

i can tell you that you can fit a 40" wide box in there. thats about max width. height if you wanna use the cargo cover to hide it is i think 14". no really sure how deep of a box you can use. if i had to guess i'd say you could do 40x14x maybe 18".

tcguy85

04-26-2008, 11:14 PM

Very nice man!

thanks! i'm proud of myself. it took a while to get where it is though. :)

tcguy85

05-01-2008, 11:02 PM

man, i just got a new CD yesterday. i just got done auditioning it in the car and words can't describe how much i love this whole setup. sounds so good, gets so loud and stays crystal clear. i think i finally got the hang of this tuning thing. lol. :)

tcguy85

05-12-2008, 08:13 PM

new pics... tinted the windows on her :)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2978.jpg

i seriously don't know if i'm going to do anything else to it. i need to start a new hobby. i might buy a supermoto bike.

speedfreak28

05-12-2008, 08:42 PM

that wings terrible, too fast and furious,

tcguy85

05-12-2008, 08:42 PM

http://www.auroramotorsport.co.uk/shop/images/Venom.jpg

sometin like that atleast/

not my style. that screams rice to me.

silvercookie

05-12-2008, 08:42 PM

not that color tho.

silvercookie

05-12-2008, 08:44 PM

not my style. that screams rice to me.

but you have the power to back it up so its not really ricer.

i think of ricer as cars that have so much crap on them to look fast but go slow.

if you have a car that looks riced but can pull mid 12's i consider that racing upgrades not looks upgrades.

tcguy85

05-12-2008, 08:45 PM

nah i'm good with the car as is. like i was saying i want to get back on a bike again. so time to start saving for that.

speedfreak28

05-12-2008, 08:45 PM

what about that wing would help performance?

innsanes

05-12-2008, 08:48 PM

I like the simple setup, i think there was a guy that did the wrap around port like you did on the HO on DIYMA forum. Could be you. I was wondering if you have the plans and what port angles to get it to wrap around. Looks clean. Keep up the good work

silvercookie

05-12-2008, 08:48 PM

i didnt say it would just saying. lol i have no idea wtf im talking about.

tc i heard yamaha is claiming to have the fastest sport bike around now.

as far as im concerned honda cbr xx is in the top 3 fastest. with the hayabusa coming in first as of now. not sure about the r1 never really read up about it

tcguy85

05-12-2008, 08:55 PM

I like the simple setup, i think there was a guy that did the wrap around port like you did on the HO on DIYMA forum. Could be you. I was wondering if you have the plans and what port angles to get it to wrap around. Looks clean. Keep up the good work

i am on diyma so it might have been me. chad also did it with the same sub but did i lil differently.

i don't really have plans. i bought the sealed box off ebay and bought some of the port tubing and 90 degree angled pieces and plotted the length out using winisd.

idk if this helps ya... http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1907.jpg

tcguy85

05-12-2008, 08:56 PM

i didnt say it would just saying. lol i have no idea wtf im talking about.

tc i heard yamaha is claiming to have the fastest sport bike around now.

as far as im concerned honda cbr xx is in the top 3 fastest. with the hayabusa coming in first as of now. not sure about the r1 never really read up about it

well i sell KTM's at my job so i'm thinking a 690 supermoto. i had a Kawi 636 and it was fun and all but i wanna try a supermoto.

tcguy85

08-31-2008, 09:49 PM

well got the bike i wanted, totaled it, and now am back to the car. :-)

i got new mids, and got new tweeters and mounted the tweeters in my pillars.

ID OEM's and Seas neo's with the aluminum domes.

pretty sweet combo! :)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3536.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3537.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3541.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3542.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3418.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3417.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3420.jpg

oh, and i got an RTA. here is a chart of the FR response at the headrest.

i had the spare set of already cut up kick panels so i have decided to make a set of pods for them for the kicks. i have been not so happy with my tweeters in my pillars. thats one of reasons why i never really finished them. i liked the extra stage height but i could never tame them. they always seemed to overpower the mids even though the level on them was pretty low and they were crossed pretty high.

i'm not going to jump to any conclusions quite yet, but so far just after a couple hours, the seas tweeters seem to sound much much better down in the kicks. i moved the crossover point down to 2.5k/24db as well (instead of 4k/12db), a spot i tried when in the pillars and only made things worse, now sounds great with them mounted down in the kicks.

i have them aimed somewhat (kinda roughly so far) on-axis. i slightly enlarged the holes that i already had in my kicks, stuck the pvc couplers in and quickly hot glued them at what i had guessed would be close to on-axis. the left side needs to point a bit more to the left, the right side needs to point a tiny bit more to the right and also up a bit as well. but it was pretty close for a quick guess.

i used the Auto EQ & T/A to get my T/A numbers again, and since it ran the EQ part as well i figured i'd give it yet another shot. this time i was actually pretty happy with how it set it up. i listened for a little bit, then whipped out the RTA to get a quick flat baseline tune. the upper mid-range that showed a huge dip before isn't such a big dip anymore. it leveled it off somehow.

the teal line is the last scan i did with them in the pillars, the yellow line is the scan i just did with them in the kicks after very minimal tuning. i'm sure that from 8k on up will level out a bit once they are put perfectly on-axis.

tomorrow and over the weekend i will have them finished up. i need to aim them better first. i will make up a little MDF piece with a hole drilled in the middle to aim them with a laser pointer.

this job will be a lot easier of a job than trying to do the pillars. a little bit of body filler and some paint and she'll be all set and looking good.

miker

09-26-2008, 07:53 AM

I like your HU. :) It's so symmetrical

mlstrass

09-26-2008, 08:26 AM

tweeters that low drop the stage? Nice install and should sound good.

stuckinok

09-26-2008, 08:41 AM

looking good

jdc753

09-26-2008, 08:47 AM

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out for you. Mine are mounted in the sail panels and I also have them crossed high (4k) since they started to sound a bit worse going down from there. Definitely wondering how your stage height is with the tweets down low.

Which version of True RTA is that? And your using the $100 RTA setup Jorge wrote about correct? Gotta order that stuff up so I can be ready to do some serious tuning.

tcguy85

09-26-2008, 08:57 AM

tweeters that low drop the stage? Nice install and should sound good.

i had a different set of tweeters there in the past and stage height seemed kinda low.

are there ways around it? they shouldn't seem low when mounted there?

tcguy85

09-26-2008, 09:00 AM

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out for you. Mine are mounted in the sail panels and I also have them crossed high (4k) since they started to sound a bit worse going down from there. Definitely wondering how your stage height is with the tweets down low.

Which version of True RTA is that? And your using the $100 RTA setup Jorge wrote about correct? Gotta order that stuff up so I can be ready to do some serious tuning.

i had tweeters mounted in the same location before and it sounded nice but just lacked stage height. i'm gonna see what i can do about that now that these are much better tweeters. maybe it'll be different this time around.

it's level one. the 1/3rd octave. an yes it's the $100 rta setup, but it's more like $175 if you want at least the 1/3rd octave truerta and then you have to buy a usb cable if you don't already have the right one at your house. i still think its a great little investment.

jdc753

09-26-2008, 09:30 AM

i had tweeters mounted in the same location before and it sounded nice but just lacked stage height. i'm gonna see what i can do about that now that these are much better tweeters. maybe it'll be different this time around.

it's level one. the 1/3rd octave. an yes it's the $100 rta setup, but it's more like $175 if you want at least the 1/3rd octave truerta and then you have to buy a usb cable if you don't already have the right one at your house. i still think its a great little investment.

Sweet, thats what I was thinking about the RTA, I should have the USB cable and such just need to tack on the cost of the higher resolution software. Totally agree on the investment :greedy: Try and make more use of my TruckPuter as well too lol, laptop would probably be easier but would be cool to just have it right in-dash.

Best of luck on getting the stage height back, with them right on axis and the better tweets should work out pretty good for you.

king ranch

09-26-2008, 04:02 PM

so if you have a set of comps mounted in the kicks and another set of comps with a mid in each door and a tweet in each side of the pillars would that balance out the stage height

budahbuddy803

09-26-2008, 04:09 PM

i would imagine you would enjoy the tweeters a little bit higher. I have seen a bunch of installs with the tweets sitting all lonely down so low.

I love the car and the install/setup is extremely clean! I like what you have done, i just imagine the tweets would be a little nicer up in the A-pillars or at least in the door somewhere./

tcguy85

09-26-2008, 11:52 PM

tonight when i got home from work i got them aimed 100&#37; on axis. aimed them at the center of the drivers side headrest at ear level. sounds soooo nice! better than ever. amazing detail without overpowering the mids. sounds really smooth, yet still detailed up top.

to aim them i got a little creative with a laser pointer and a piece of mdf. i cut out a piece of mdf that would fit into the PVC fitting and then drilled a hole in the center of it and stuck the laser pointer into it. i then aimed them and took out the hot glue gun and went to town. the are rock solid!

just need to get some body filler or putty or something and blend them in, and then paint them up.

a few pics of them as of now. hopefully this weekend i'll get them lookin nice.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3600.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3599.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3597.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3598.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3605.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3606.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3608.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3607.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3618.jpg

bigbangtheory

09-27-2008, 07:59 AM

Man, I wish I had the time and well, ahh.........patience you have, lol! I would be so frustrated by now!

Not to bad, but I am sure they will look better once you get them all painted up and stuff. I commend you on you testing, testing and testing to see where they would sound the best to you. I could only imagine how good my set would sound if I was to mess around with that, but don't have an RTA to mess around with, nor the know how really.

Congrads again and enjoy. I do have a feeling you will be getting something else soon, or moving them again. Just a hunch. ;)

tcguy85

09-27-2008, 08:24 AM

Man, I wish I had the time and well, ahh.........patience you have, lol! I would be so frustrated by now!

Not to bad, but I am sure they will look better once you get them all painted up and stuff. I commend you on you testing, testing and testing to see where they would sound the best to you. I could only imagine how good my set would sound if I was to mess around with that, but don't have an RTA to mess around with, nor the know how really.

Congrads again and enjoy. I do have a feeling you will be getting something else soon, or moving them again. Just a hunch. ;)

why do ya say that?

tcguy85

09-27-2008, 08:29 AM

oh and one more picture that i forgot to post before.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3624.jpg

bigbangtheory

09-27-2008, 05:56 PM

You seem to be a big audio enthusiast and don't seem to be happy with something for too long, or like me, just like to try new stuff. You loved your RSD's so much and went with those, then weren't happy with those after a while and keep the tweets because you said you loved them so much. Then you were happy and wrote a review about that setup and then wanted a different tweeter and went the Sea's. Then put them up in the APillar and wrote a review how much you liked them there after getting them dialed in. Well now you are not happy with it and put them back down in the kicks.

Just saying, you like to try different stuff, I imagine you will want something different after a while. Nothing wrong with that, I am much the same way, which ***** when you have no bank, lol!

tcguy85

09-27-2008, 11:02 PM

You seem to be a big audio enthusiast and don't seem to be happy with something for too long, or like me, just like to try new stuff. You loved your RSD's so much and went with those, then weren't happy with those after a while and keep the tweets because you said you loved them so much. Then you were happy and wrote a review about that setup and then wanted a different tweeter and went the Sea's. Then put them up in the APillar and wrote a review how much you liked them there after getting them dialed in. Well now you are not happy with it and put them back down in the kicks.

Just saying, you like to try different stuff, I imagine you will want something different after a while. Nothing wrong with that, I am much the same way, which ***** when you have no bank, lol!

i gotcha. i keep saying that i'm done. but it never ends man.

i got no bank either. this cost me a dollar so far(the two pvc fittings). the last pillar project cost me maybe 20 bucks. i'm really not spending THAT much.

bigbangtheory

09-28-2008, 08:44 AM

Go to a shop and tell them to make some custom A-pillars for the tweets and tell me it don't cost much, lol!

Just be glad you have skillz to do the ish yourself. I do too, just don't have the time. :(

tcguy85

09-28-2008, 11:45 AM

Go to a shop and tell them to make some custom A-pillars for the tweets and tell me it don't cost much, lol!

Just be glad you have skillz to do the ish yourself. I do too, just don't have the time. :(

true dat.... true dat. :D

just got done re-sueding the pillars back to stock w/o the fugly pods. :)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3626.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3625.jpg

looks pretty pimp!

kidwolf909

09-28-2008, 11:54 AM

Looks good back in black man :)

I do wish I could hear your setup someday to see what I'm missing in my tC lol

tcguy85

09-28-2008, 12:00 PM

Looks good back in black man :)

I do wish I could hear your setup someday to see what I'm missing in my tC lol

thanks. i like it already.

come up to queens next Sunday for our meet. it's not THAT far from you. :D

tcguy85

10-04-2008, 11:34 PM

i just did some intense listening. sampled a lot of various material and everything sounded awesome!

the stage is wide, deep, and pretty high considering where things are mounted. sounds are dancing all over my dash and windshield. tonality also seems very realistic. sounds very smooth but with lots of authority when needed. i'm finally very happy with everything. i guess my last tuning session was pretty **** good!