BlueAngel, I hope you don’t mind, but this kind of stuff is interesting enough that it deserves its own “thread”.

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BlueAngel Wrote:

I'm here, JIMBO, alive, walking this planet, a survivor of MKULTRA/Project Monarch and for that I am THANKFUL!!!

Mind Control is a SUBJECT of great concern to me because it involves more than just "programming" a slave for some future mission.

When one thinks of mind control they usually equate it to a Manchurian Candidate. That does not even cover the spectrum of what is involved in their programs; particuarly Project Monarch, which is trauma-based.

I know that government conspiracies are real. I know that our government is corrupt. Both parties. So, if that was their goal for my future, I have no allegiance to either.

I have allegiance to my country. The America that should be!

Maybe people do lie to themselves to mask the reality that they lived, but as far as mind control victims are concerned most times the reality that they lived is so horrific that blocking it was the only way they survived.

THEY DO NOT REMEMBER and, therefore, are not lying to themselves or anyone else. They can have dozens of alters. Psychological warfare ensues.

Coupled with hypnosis, electricshock, drugs, sleep, water, food, sensory deprivation, etc., etc., etc., false memories implanted doesn't really allow all of the REAL memories and the entire picture to evolve once a victim/survivor is triggered into remembering their past abuse and incarceration in one of these programs.

Trauma too horrible for the mind to endure is FORGOTTEN. Compartmentalized. This, the only way for mind control victims to survive the abuse. The brain's self-defense.

I was replying to NOMAD about the "Whiz Kid" and just making some general remarks as to memories I have as a child that seemed to parallel his experience. I was interested in his story and the fact that he was institutionalized because he was a threat to THEM and not himself.

I'd ultimately LOVE to interview him.

JIMBO, I'm 48 years old...soon to be 49. I only uncovered this past life of mine about four years ago.

That, my friend, is the essence and depth of mind control. The victim is unaware for decades that they were sujected to such vicious manipulation, control and abuse.

When the memories surface, the question remains for those who are alive and were not killed or snuffed out in porn films. WHY?

I admire Henry's work. And, by the way, I say "Oh, Henry," like the candy bar.

I know that there are many more like him who have been working behind the scenes for decades to uncover this CULT.

I am open to feedback and any answers you may have are certainly welcome!!

InPeace,
BlueAngel

Wow,... that's pretty wild. I have read about MKULTRA before, sometimes articles written by survivors like yourself, but I never thought I was going to meet anyone that had gone through like what you just described. A lot of bizarre stuff happening in our world. I’m speechless,…

I am kind of tired now, but perhaps another time I’ll have the mental energy to continue…

Hello! I've been looking into this practice and its origins. I believe that Hitler had a vision of a super race based on two things: 1) The creation of breeders who had the sensual and mental hyperacuity that is found in victims of multigenerational abuse; 2) A "pure" gene pool in which these traits would be passed on and amplified. We've all heard about his experiments in eugenics, but this was just one part of the overall plan. He truly wanted to create a race of superhumans in order to dominate the world.

Hello again. I often wonder how much popular information is altered and how much is obfuscated. For instance, the popular account of the sessions in the hot cages involves kittens. Anyone familiar with the story will know what the significance of the kittens is. Kittens, however, arre not the only cute furry animals that are well-suited to small enclosures. Rabbits are also well-suited for this. And I have to wonder if the Hefner estate was not, at least at one time, a training ground for betas when they reached a suitable age. It would be a case of hiding in plain sight. The irrational desire to become a cute cuddly bunny in order to be loved and protected would have been fulfilled. Any thoughts on this?

Bouncer wrote:
Hello! I've been looking into this practice and its origins. I believe that Hitler had a vision of a super race based on two things: 1) The creation of breeders who had the sensual and mental hyperacuity that is found in victims of multigenerational abuse; 2) A "pure" gene pool in which these traits would be passed on and amplified. We've all heard about his experiments in eugenics, but this was just one part of the overall plan. He truly wanted to create a race of superhumans in order to dominate the world.

Well, I'm not that familiar with Hitler's experiments in eugenics; however, they are interested in children who come from families of multigenerational abuse. These children are predisposed to DID. These are the children they look for when recruiting for their mind control programs/experimentation. Or, father's of children who have TIES to the Mafia. Also interested in talented children who come from less fortunate circumstances whom they can rise up to fame and perhaps as is the case with Michael Jackson use them to further their agenda by luring the type of children to his ranch that visit there. Sick, poor, etc. Using them in pornography, etc.

I think creating a SUPER RACE would be the opposite of those who were tortured during the Holocaust, etc.

To rid the world of the less desirables in that way would be more like it and only keep those who are of blood line would be to acheive the goal of their KIND dominating the world.

For instance, sending people to jail/prison for the least little infraction is a way to taint a person's record and do damage to their ability to succeed for the rest of their life.

Bouncer wrote:
Hello again. I often wonder how much popular information is altered and how much is obfuscated. For instance, the popular account of the sessions in the hot cages involves kittens. Anyone familiar with the story will know what the significance of the kittens is. Kittens, however, arre not the only cute furry animals that are well-suited to small enclosures. Rabbits are also well-suited for this. And I have to wonder if the Hefner estate was not, at least at one time, a training ground for betas when they reached a suitable age. It would be a case of hiding in plain sight. The irrational desire to become a cute cuddly bunny in order to be loved and protected would have been fulfilled. Any thoughts on this?

I'm not familiar with hot cages. But, that doesn't mean that if it is credible I wouldn't have a memory of it later.

However, children are caged for many reason and when they are let out by their abusers, they become their protectors.

Reverse psychology, I would assume!!

Training ground could have been at Hefner's estate. Hiding in plain sight that way would be perfect.

Breeding ground???

I don't really like to discuss the BETA programming, but it was used on me recently when I wandered into a dangerous area on the web.

This is why I am very protective about whom I speak with and what I say!!

Kittens and bunny rabbits are part of the BETA programming.

Interesting how someone from my past who is probably a mind control victim, too, was a Bunny at one of the Playboy clubs.

Blue Angel: I apologize for any unwanted associations which I might have stirred up. I can empathize with severe dissociation and other things, so I have a clue what the pain and fear are like. My pursuit is much more than recreation or "intellectual curiosity." That being said, if you want an account of hot-cage sessions (ala Josef Mengele) or "Tinkerbelle" programming, it is out there on the web. I will not elaborate because it is a sensitive subject and potentially upsetting. Thank you for your comments.
Later.

Bouncer wrote:
Blue Angel: I apologize for any unwanted associations which I might have stirred up. I can empathize with severe dissociation and other things, so I have a clue what the pain and fear are like. My pursuit is much more than recreation or "intellectual curiosity." That being said, if you want an account of hot-cage sessions (ala Josef Mengele) or "Tinkerbelle" programming, it is out there on the web. I will not elaborate because it is a sensitive subject and potentially upsetting. Thank you for your comments.
Later.

No problem Bouncer!! I've been going through some hard times the past couple of years due to my "awakening."

I have made PEACE with myself inasmuch as I realize I may never recover all of my memories and that this process may be with me for a very long time.

I have support so I am not alone in my struggle.

My goal is to ENLIGHTEN as much as possible with the knowledge I do possess. There is no other reason for me to have survived such grotesque abuse.

Anyway, the "Tinkerbelle" programming was something I was subjected to at Tinker Air Force Base. I would ask, "why do they call it Tinker AFB?" and, they would reply, "because we TINKER with your brain here and you're our little TINKERBELLE.

I don't know if Mengele had a hook arm, but one of the doctors did.

If you'd like to provide links regarding the Tinkerbelle programming and hot cages, I would appreciate it.

I haven't stumbled across that yet!!

I'm not sure what this means, but I'll throw it out there anyway.

At Bohemian Grove, I would ask, "why do they call it Bohemian Grove?" and they would reply because that's where it all started; in Bohemia, and I do remember some kind of mariachi band but they were called the "Bohemian's something or other."

I believe my programming also included that which would be used for "military intelligence."

Kaballah and one other?

I have come to this conclusion due to the SUICIDAL commands and psychological/physical ailments I endure upon remembering certain events/information.

In fact, most victims/survivors are programmed to KILL their therapist or anyone else they CONFIDE in!!

There are "gatekeepers" for sure who are protecting my VAULT!!! Never to be seen by the public were their words. Only those with credentials are allowed to open the vault and I was instructed to take the INFORMATION to my grave.

Once the gatekeepers move away, there are also other obstacles that have been put in place so that entry is not accessible unless my handlers from the past provide the codes, keys and triggers to open the safe/vault.

The "gatekeepers" man the area 24/7 just as in the military when protecting entry onto their bases, etc. They have orders never to move away from their post unless ordered by a superior!!