Chapter 59

Chapter 59 Raw is out!!!!!!! The file is so heavy though so I'm still downloading T__T Hurry up Internet!!!!!!

Lily Baskerville

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:48 pm

I'm on the same side here TOTBut I've seen the chapter cover. So interesting Leo.

Lacie

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:55 pm

Spoiler:

ELLIOT T_T

Yura seems...very dead.Gil being badass.Memories and stuff.But most importantly ELLIOT!! If I see it correctly then Jack/Oz is killing him...

EDIT Now I read that Vincent asks Elliot wheter he wants to be killed by him or by Oz and Elliot says none of them so he probably kills himself to be free from Humpty Dumpty...appearantly Humpty vanishes so it's more likely that he killed himself...at least Oz didn't kill him but still...

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Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:08 pm

Lacie, put your post in spoiler ^^;;;;;;

Lily Baskerville

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:06 pm

Spoiler:

U...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I can translate some of the scenes though >.>Although I prefer to base on the scenes while posting this TOT

Elliot...did he...actually kill himself?! NOOOO TOTIsla Yura is dead, presumably.The last scenes of the chapter made me cry. WHY OF ALL CHARACTERS?! D:

But the covers are so cute~

*yawn*Spoilers, beware.

Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:07 pm

Lol XD XD

Lily Baskerville

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:13 pm

So shall we...er, no maybe not until the English scans are out. XDDDI was planning to start a discussion with you guys. XD

Seems like the sealing stone is broken. x.x If Elli's death (if it really happened) was for nothing I'll be soo pissed. Ans also, it didn't look like he died to me, I feel like he was thrown into the abyss. But I've beem wrong before. Following a certain logic it wouldn't be interesting at all to kill him right now, since every author's objective is to attract the readers attention leaving an open gap about Elliot's death would be better.At the end we see Oz with a drop of blood (probably Elliot's blood) on the palm of his hand, it looks as thogh he "dissappeared' (why I think he was thrown into the abyss) So we'll probably have to wait for the next chapter to know more details. I hope the translation clears things up.Also, if Elliot's dead.... HOW COULD LEO DO NOTHING? I hoped Leo would be an important part in Elli's death if it really had to happen, but you barely see him in this last chapter. T.T I'm so sad now.

Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:05 pm

^^

Spoiler:

The thing in Oz's hand is not Elliot's blood. Oz was in a different room from Elliot. He was going to attack a black Humpty Dumpty. At the same time, Elliot said to Humpty Dumpty that he rejected it, presumably broke the contract (is it possible??). Oz destroyed the black HD (or the black HD disappeared because of the broken contract) ~> the thing in his hand was a piece of the black HD, but because all the HDs were connected to Elliot so somehow, Oz could feel a bit of Elliot in it.

Ugh, I'm not making any sense at the moment. My head is kinda fuzzy, can't really think straight...

Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:17 pm

Oh....

Spoiler:

Vincent was asking Elliot something along the line of "Do you want Oz to kill you?" (I know this is not the exact words ^^;;. If all the HDs were destroyed, Elliot would die. So that probably means Vincent was asking Elliot if he wants to die by letting Oz destroying all the HDs, but Elliot refused and (somehow) ended it himself.We can see the Oz=Jack, Leo=Glen, Elliot=Lacie quite clearly in here but I wonder if their relationships are the same... There's quite a strong bond between Oz & Elliot ~ So I'm wondering if there's anything between Jack and Lacie ~~~~~~ Oh well...

Gizele12

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:25 pm

I just wish Elliot didn't have to die.

Xerxes BreakAdmin of Pandora

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:01 pm

woah this chapter was sure a shock O_O

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Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:04 pm

Yeah, but it's not unexpected either...

Gilbert Nightray

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:39 pm

...god....excuse me while i shed a few tears. ;A; -cries-

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Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:54 pm

*hugs Gilbert* There there....

Gilbert Nightray

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:00 am

@Leo:

LOL thnx. xD

Though if anything ever happens to Gil, I will straight up lose it. xD

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Reim Lunettes

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:37 am

Before this chapter came out, I had a seed of an idea to write a fic where Elliot and Oz fall into Abyss together...have adventures, strengthen their friendship, etc. Now I am wondering if I shall have to shelve the idea as an impossibility.

Spoiler:

From what I have been able to read of the translation, and from what I'd heard others saying about it, it seems as if Elliot has attempted to severe his connection to Humpty Dumpty. Does that automatically kill him, because he is so connected to the chain at this late date? I wonder what happens to the orphans then...do they die as well? Will Humpty Dumpty die, too, or go back to Abyss? Could Humpty make a contract with someone else? Is it possible Elliot isn't really dead and just went to Abyss?

What was the meaning of Elliot stabbing his own hand? You can't really kill yourself that way, so was there some symbolic meaning? I know Raven is bound to Gil's hand...is Humpty bound the same way?

Now if Elliot can negate his connection to Humpty, could Leo (through similar willpower) negate his connection to Glen's soul?

I'm really proud of Elliot's strength of character and insistence on following his own inclinations. Though I was surprised he didn't seem to be thinking at all of the people he'd leave behind who would miss him, mainly Leo.

And those final pages were sooo sad...

Lily Baskerville

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:47 am

Spoiler:

Now it eases me to think that Elliot might have been sent into the Abyss after breaking the contract. Elliot stabbing his left hand might be a sign that he actually broke the contract between him and the HD. When he stabbed his hand, the HD Oz was facing disappeared, so maybe, Elliot didn't die after all. He must have been sent into the Abyss.

I agree on the fact that Oz=Jack, Leo=Glen and Elliot=Lacie. The connection and the relationship between the three are so strong that you can never distinguish them anymore, especially Oz and Elliot. Does this really mean that Jack and Lacie had something in before? I'm quoting Leo-san from his post above BTW.

This chapter is far most the saddest of them all. Elliot presumably dead or sent into the Abyss or just completely unconscious because of the pain he recieved when accidentally summoning the Humpty Dumpty... I actually raged when I saw the last pages Oz saying something related to Elliot, and afterwards I cried when I saw the sword on the ground and a pool of blood was surrounding it.

I had feared that Elliot might be dead but we need the next chapter AND the translations for chapter 59 so we can clear everything up. Hopefully we won'e be waiting long. ^^

Long post is long, I had gathered my thoughts and speculations since last night before I went to sleep, and here they are. I'm okay now, so don't worry about me~

Leo

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:22 am

The translation text is now up in mangafox forum discussion. Things should be a lot clearer then.

@Lily: I tried to gather my thoughts as well but this morning when I woke up, my head was just so empty... *sighs*

Spoiler:

According to the translation, Vincent said that for a Chain, getting rejected by its contractor is equal to death. Also, Elliot's seal is already 3/4 full, if he rejects HD, that is equal to a double suicide with the Chain, and Elliot did just that. So we can assume that he's dead. About his body, I'm not sure if it's still there or if it's been taken to the Abyss (We only see the sword and the puddle of blood after all). Well, Oz and Leo are not gonna be happy to find out about Elliot's situation. (Ugh, Leo fainted so easily, what a weakling. He wasn't even conscious to witness Elliot's "last" moment.)Reim-san, you really made so many good points. I wonder why Leo didn't appear in his final thoughts...

Oz starts freaking out and saying stuff like "Jack killed him" "I killed him" and stuff. strangely enough, everyone else was SHOCKED that Yura is dead. Doug ends up going for the sealing stone, as does Vincent. Before Vincent attempts to shoot the sealing stone, he says "Im sorry Jack." But then Gil comes in to save the day as usual! Break being as smart as he is, tells Gil that Vincent is in league with the Baskervilles. Then, in the next part. Oz is like "Its the same. the same, the same the same!" "the killing, the death, the slaughter, I...I...!" (unsure on those death words.) "Oz""Alice?!"Then of course, Oz repeats her name, and the scene from Sabrie shows up. the stone breaks, a weird light is emitted, and then everyone can hear it. then, Gil clenches his hand and says "Why?! Why is this happening again?!"

Vincent then proceeds to tell Gilbert about Yura. Yura wanted the power of the Abyss, and to do that he had to create flashbacks from the tragedy itself. I dont know what Vincent says to set Gilbert off, but it had to do with the power of the chains (presumably the currently active ones close to Oz)

in this scene, perhaps Vincent is telling Doug to snatch up Lotti and Lily. When Lotti starts talking/thinking, she mentions Glen. perhaps this happened in Sabrie as well?

.....n-now...for the sad part....

Spoiler:

Leo says " What was....that weird feeling just now...?""Elliot!"Then Elliot tells Leo not to come near him. and of course, because leo is blown back, and got /hurt/ Humpty Dumpty--who is supposed to preserve "Glens" body/soul/whatever saw this as bad and started to eliminate the threat. (buuuut it looks like its eating Elliots face xD)At this point, Elliot believes that he is sleeping. i think he's saying that he's fine with that, but then he questions the fact that he's /sleeping/. "The suffering...the sadness....yet, i cannot forget this...."Then he hears something about "open your eyes..."

I-i'll finish the rest tomorrow...im really tired..

Jack

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Subject: Re: Chapter 59 Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:10 am

I admit that chapter was sad D= i just read the translations and wow ;-; now i get why your all sad Kyra ;A; i felt like crying but i didn't, its not like i was trying to hold it in or anything like that owo;on another note I was really Happy that Gil popped up again 8D *shot*

Breaking the Sealing Stone would result in a possible occurence of the Tragedy of Sablier...or should I say, re-enactment oAo And Vincent was forced to turn against Oz and the others by attempting to destroy the seal...Good 'ol Vincent. Well, he was in league with the Baskervilles anyway. XD

Lastly..

Elliot: "By the way, I...Humpty Dumpty, I reject you."

Good choice of killing it but you...

And after reading the scans, like Leo told me earlier in the chatbox, I felt nothing.