Sometimes I feel that the COBRA Commandos (or something this that) should be deployed in Kashmir too. As these folks are trained to move in the forest for more than a week at a stretch, track the terrorists and eliminate them. Jihadi scum camp out and train in the forests all the time before they hide out in the villages/towns.

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Sometimes I feel that the COBRA Commandos (or something this that) should be deployed in Kashmir too. As these folks are trained to move in the forest for more than a week at a stretch, track the terrorists and eliminate them. Jihadi scum camp out and train in the forests all the time before they hide out in the villages/towns.

And you think special units deployed in Kashmir are not? The threat that J&K faces is from scum crossing borders and marrying and settling with local people over 5 decades. They are outsiders and need external force to be dealt with.

Sometimes I feel that the COBRA Commandos (or something this that) should be deployed in Kashmir too. As these folks are trained to move in the forest for more than a week at a stretch, track the terrorists and eliminate them. Jihadi scum camp out and train in the forests all the time before they hide out in the villages/towns.

And you think special units deployed in Kashmir are not? The threat that J&K faces is from scum crossing borders and marrying and settling with local people over 5 decades. They are outsiders and need external force to be dealt with.

External scum eventually draw locals and they all need to be trained! Haven't you seen the hundreds of pics/videos of the local scum training/sleeping/'frolicking' in the forests?

RR is not trained to carry a weeks supply of food and live in the forest.
Para SF are trained to survive for long periods in the wilderness, but they are not normally deployed as a mission to comb jungles/mountains for 7-10 day periods. They go in with specific intelligence for a short mission.
Cobra commandos essential job deployment involves combing jungles/mountains for 7-10 days at a stretch, track , ambush the scum & eliminate them.

RR/SF sometimes do comb jungles to pursue fleeing jihadis ...but only for a less than 24 hours!

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External scum eventually draw locals and they all need to be trained! Haven't you seen the hundreds of pics/videos of the local scum training/sleeping/'frolicking' in the forests?

RR is not trained to carry a weeks supply of food and live in the forest.
Para SF are trained to survive for long periods in the wilderness, but they are not normally deployed as a mission to comb jungles/mountains for 7-10 day periods. They go in with specific intelligence for a short mission.
Cobra commandos essential job deployment involves combing jungles/mountains for 7-10 days at a stretch, track , ambush the scum & eliminate them.

RR/SF sometimes do comb jungles to pursue fleeing jihadis ...but only for a less than 24 hours!

RR does not need to deploy for weeks in jungle to find the hideouts. In Kashmir the forces use a lot more tech and extremely high level of surveillance. There are multiple levels of security in J&K - Army and BSF at LOC, CRPF and RR in the valley.

Anyhow, almost every combat infantry group of IA can sustain itself in a long petrol. RR is one fine one at that.

Btw, CRPF has its own special ops teams in the valley. They have much better heads there who can assess what they need or do not. The jungle warfare at the evergreen thick forests of central India is not same as the cold mountainous jungles of J&K and hence, the training and expertise is not completely interchangeable. The terrain is different and they would be needed to give familiarisation training by some other units to perform at their best.

4 Para SF and 9 Para SF maintain a presence in J&K permanently for such occurance any how.

That's a nonsensical argument. It's lazy to not go into the merits of a suggestion but assume the status quo is great!
The tactics in J&K were not set in stone 30 years ago. They've constantly been evolved over time. If/When Cobras are finally deployed in J&K, the ignorant chatter boxes will then say that it's a great move!!
NSG wasn't used in J&K earlier but now in use. For crying out loud, there wasn't even RR at one point in time - until the need for specialized training was deemed necessary to deal with COIN/CT!
Cobras are pretty new (operational for less than a decade). Their strength and role has grown from anti-naxal to anti-insurgency. It's just a matter of time (after having adequately grown to meet the anti-naxal ops and north east issues) that they might raise a unit to deploy in J&K for their specialized skill!

The jungle warfare at the evergreen thick forests of central India is not same as the cold mountainous jungles of J&K and hence, the training and expertise is not completely interchangeable. The terrain is different and they would be needed to give familiarisation training by some other units to perform at their best.

Cobras are deployed in the cold/rainy North East too (not just Central India). The rainforests of the northeast are more taxing to comb than that of J&K! Also, the jihadi scum don't train/languish in the icy cold mountains in the winter - they do so in the spring/summer.
The Cobras were originally trained/deployed in Central India, but they were easily repurposed for North east states where the hills/jungles are different.
J&K jungles are not rainforest & as such easier to traverse! But surely, they have to make some modifications to their tactics given the difference in vegetation & possibly the tactics of the jihadis!

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Is FOPEN radar used? If not how do you see the jihadi scum hiding in a jungle.
What you're doing is ignorant 'hand waving'. They use 'technology' is non-specific and a useless statement!

Cobra Commandos are part of CRPF!!

Current long patrol in Kashmir does not involve 7-10 days!!
Also, the patrols are confined to LOC. There's no regular combing operations in the hinterland jungles

That's their QRT team that can engage with jihadis when encountered in villages/towns.
What I am talking about is combing the jungles!

That's a nonsensical argument. It's lazy to not go into the merits of a suggestion but assume the status quo is great!
The tactics in J&K were not set in stone 30 years ago. They've constantly been evolved over time. If/When Cobras are finally deployed in J&K, the ignorant chatter boxes will then say that it's a great move!!
NSG wasn't used in J&K earlier but now in use. For crying out loud, there wasn't even RR at one point in time - until the need for specialized training was deemed necessary to deal with COIN/CT!
Cobras are pretty new (operational for less than a decade). Their strength and role has grown from anti-naxal to anti-insurgency. It's just a matter of time (after having adequately grown to meet the anti-naxal ops and north east issues) that they might raise a unit to deploy in J&K for their specialized skill!

Cobras are deployed in the cold/rainy North East too (not just Central India). The rainforests of the northeast are more taxing to comb than that of J&K! Also, the jihadi scum don't train/languish in the icy cold mountains in the winter - they do so in the spring/summer.
The Cobras were originally trained/deployed in Central India, but they were easily repurposed for North east states where the hills/jungles are different.
J&K jungles are not rainforest & as such easier to traverse! But surely, they have to make some modifications to their tactics given the difference in vegetation & possibly the tactics of the jihadis!

As I've mentioned several times already, Para SF are not deployed for combing the hinterland jungles!

...and you don't think much!
What is your point?
A Cobra commando inducted into RR to be trained in urban warfare in order to perform what RR does in Kashmir. What's that got to do with my primary point?
My point is that the extended jungle patrols are required in Kashmir (to deny the Jihadi scum space to train, regroup & hide)....and Cobra commandos are uniquely suited for this purpose!

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...and you don't think much!
What is your point?
A Cobra commando inducted into RR to be trained in urban warfare in order to perform what RR does in Kashmir. What's that got to do with my primary point?
My point is that the extended jungle patrols are required in Kashmir (to deny the Jihadi scum space to train, regroup & hide)....and Cobra commandos are uniquely suited for this purpose!

You seriously are a bothersome person. This commando specifically told how the terrain and climate is different in J&K from where he operated. How he gets terrain familiarisation training in Corps training school.

Also, did you miss the whole corps training school. What was it doing there?

You seriously are a bothersome person. This commando specifically told how the terrain and climate is different in J&K from where he operated. How he gets terrain familiarisation training in Corps training school.

Also, did you miss the whole corps training school. What was it doing there?

Did you miss reading my previous posts?
I already acknowledged that there will need to be a short time spent in terrain-acclimitization! (even though the focus in RR training is urban warfare). That doesn't mean Cobras will be useless in J&K jungles! Commandos (including Para SF) are fit for varied terrains to start with.

You still haven't figured out Cobras' unique quality AND what kind of ops are uniquely missing in J&K! You're exaggerating a non-existential obstacle!
Naxals, North East rebels, Jihadis all have similar MO - hide and train in the jungle! Unless that swamp is denied to them, they will breed and grow stronger!

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Did you miss reading my previous posts?
I already acknowledged that there will need to be a short time spent in terrain-acclimitization! (even though the focus in RR training is urban warfare). That doesn't mean Cobras will be useless in J&K jungles! Commandos (including Para SF) are fit for varied terrains to start with.

You still haven't figured out Cobras' unique quality AND what kind of ops are uniquely missing in J&K! You're exaggerating a non-existential obstacle!
Naxals, North East rebels, Jihadis all have similar MO - hide and train in the jungle! Unless that swamp is denied to them, they will breed and grow stronger!

Oh, I sure would. You aint worth my time. You are too intelligent to be any good. Apparently you know more than Indian security services who brainstromed to set up the most effective CI corps in the world in form of RR.