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Manga/Anime films particularly Ghost In The Shell. For years friends have been trying to get me into them with Ghost In The Shell being the one they kept touting. In the end I caved in and regretted doing so after only ten minutes of watching the film. Also seen chunks of Spirited Away which bored me to tears:D

It probably doesn't help that manga/anime films just don't appeal to me so I have a biased view on them

Most of the above mentioned are good if not great films! But if I am playing devil's advocate any film Eddy Murphy has been in since Coming To America, and I do not like Jim Jarmusch's films and I do not like Ingmar Bergman's movies either! But I can see that they are classics! How about Salo?! That "film" is awful! I do not like any movie dealing with cannabalism either! I do not understand what all the fuss about them is!

David Blackwell wrote: Blair Witch Project is c**p. I loved the sequel though. I thought Othello (Orson Welles version) was too long. I'll take Citizen Kane or Touch of Evil any day. I would love to see extended versions of some Welles films cut to shreds.I think Im the only one who really likes "The Blair Witch Project". I must have watched it over 100 times over the year I was in third grade, literally. Every day I'd wake up, I would get dressed and put it on. Ah, the memories.

Blair Witch Project is c**p. I loved the sequel though. I thought Othello (Orson Welles version) was too long. I'll take Citizen Kane or Touch of Evil any day. I would love to see extended versions of some Welles films cut to shreds.

Gunsprout wrote: Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: I will get blasted for this, but "Pulp Fiction". Not awful, but not the brilliant film everyone makes it out to be.

Oooh... Quentin Tarantino films in general. Don't get me wrong, they quite easily fill in a couple of hours but they really are not the "Gods gift to cinema" that a lot of people make them out to be...

Well, I just saw "Reservoir Dogs" and I loved it. Better than all his other efforts that's for sure. Not "God's gift" as you say, but a very good movie.

"Sideways". Not awful per say, but just not that great. I just didn't connect with the characters at all. They were losers with no sympathetic qualities at all.

Every time Pacino spoke I wanted to throttle him. I know the guy overacts, but it dorve me crazy. I think if it had just been some movie I happened to be catching on TV I might've thought it was all right, but seeing that it was an Oscar nominated film I was a bit nonplussed. I honestly don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings with it, but I figure if my feelings weren't hurt with the mentions of 2001, LOTR, TCM, and Finding Nemo the rest of us will be Ok.

R2 United Kingdom - (Universal Pictures) - "R-rated" version, and hence is still missing: The complete reveal of the Oriental dildo, which lasts 4 seconds longer. When Max and Nicki first get together, Max picks up a needle from the floor and traces it along Nicki's legs and torso. When Max pulls the needle from Nicki's left ear, four seconds showing the needle sliding out of the lobe and being held clear are cut. Max pushing the needle into Nicki's right ear amounts to about 2 seconds of delete video. The view of Max and Nicki making love on the floor of the torture chamber is longer by about 5 seconds. The shot of Max's second executive murder runs for 23 frames in the PAL version and 48 frames in the NTSC version, amounting to 1 second of missing film. The shot of Barry Convex's face splitting open is more lingering, as are some of the other points of view. An additional close up of Barry's open chest, with the jagged ends of ribs clearly visible, amounts to 3 seconds.

The director's cut (available in the US on VHS and DVD) contains the following additional footage:Spoiler During the "Samurai Dreams" scene, a dildo, only partly shown in the "R" rated version, is fully visible.

The first shot of videodrome in Harlan's workroom runs longer. The next scene in Harlan's workroom shows a different, and more graphic take of videodrome broadcast.

The scene in which Max pierces Nicki's ear has been extended.

The shot of Max shooting his second partner is slightly longer.

Barry Convex's death goes another shot.

Sorry if this isn't what you meant, I figured since it said available in US that it wasn't in UK (R1 and R2). I personally haven't seen the film (yet) so I cannot pass judgment.

Citizen Kane for being an average movie that every critic MUST say is THE best movie ever. Talk about everyone jumping on the band wagon. Why? For fear of not being taken seriously as a film critic perhaps? I suspect so. Pity as there is a much more deserving best movie of all time made in the same era, The Maltese Falcon. Not a frame wasted, Perfect. The best of film noir.

Gunsprout wrote: Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: I will get blasted for this, but "Pulp Fiction". Not awful, but not the brilliant film everyone makes it out to be.

Oooh... Quentin Tarantino films in general. Don't get me wrong, they quite easily fill in a couple of hours but they really are not the "Gods gift to cinema" that a lot of people make them out to be... i have to agree...but also have to add that "Jackie Brown" and "4 Rooms" are realy good films....but i don't realy get this Tarantion-movement in world cinema..and would never rank PF in my top 100 films :/

Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: I will get blasted for this, but "Pulp Fiction". Not awful, but not the brilliant film everyone makes it out to be.

Oooh... Quentin Tarantino films in general. Don't get me wrong, they quite easily fill in a couple of hours but they really are not the "Gods gift to cinema" that a lot of people make them out to be...

They're apparently doing that for the North American DVDs as well... Stating that "Grindhouse" is the experience, PT and DP are the movies. Bullocks to that I say. Just wait and there'll be a deluxe set by X-Mas.

Maybe we just have to wait for an extended edition of Grindhouse - aren't they thinking of releasing the movies in some countries as 2 seperate movies? To do this they must extend the running time. Mind you, extending a movie certianly does not mean it is guarrenteed to be better...

Jonathan Bennett wrote: Grindhouse. Planet Terror and the fake trailers were pure genius, but Death Proof was mostly a complete bore(besides say, the last 25 minutes or so). Maybe I went a little overboard. Grindhouse isn't an awful movie, but it's an incredibly overrated one.

Gabe Powers wrote: I actually thought Death Proof was better than Planet Terror, but not nearly as good as Kill Bill.

Well no, Kill Bill is a much better movie. I laughed more with Planet Terror, it was more fun. When Death Proof started, it just died, then slowly came back to half of what it was, then bang! Back! Planet Terror is more of a spoof of the old films than it is one itself I found. Whereas Death Proof was one itself. And Death Proof is slowly growing on me.

Stubby, did you ever see Rushmore or Life Aquatic? Pretty much the same thing as Royal Tannenbaums, but I'm curious as to if you just don't like Wes Anderson's style or if you just didn't like that particular flick.

I ended up watching Seventh Seal with the 'expert' commentary track, and it helped me to enjoy myself a bit more. I think Hour of the Wolf was a better Bergman flick, but I've still not seen Wild Strawberries or Virgin Spring.

Have not checked out Rushmore as of yet and maybe I should based on some various comments on this board. Life Aquatic was not on my list too watch which probably had more to do with my feeling that Lost in Translation was over-hyped. So I'm not gonna write off Wes Anderson yet. If I saw Seventh Seal 50 years ago I probably would have been blown away by it. Same as someone just now seeing 2001 :A Space Odyssey or Citizen Kane and not understanding what the fuss was all about. You would have no context to the innovations these films achieved after decades of other director's copying Welles, Bergman and Kubricks style. I recall fragrance commercials on TV that were a take-off to the Seventh Seal. I did enjoy Wid Strawberrys

Gabe Powers wrote: Rushmore is one of my all time favs. In a weird way I actually kind of like other people not like it because that makes it mine .

I'll agree profusely with Pulp Fiction. I think it's about 1/3 a good film, but the rest never did it for me. I'm a much bigger fan of Tarantino's visuals than his dialogue (I also don't really like Reservoir Dogs). I also think he's grown as a filmmaker, as Jackie Brown and Kill Bill are my favourites of his. Death Proof was a small step down, but still pretty good.

Agreed about Rushmore, it's one of my faves too, I can really identify with Max (except for the whole I'm in love with my teacher thing). And to tell you the truth, none of my friends like any movie I like, so all my faves are special

My main problem with Pulp Fiction is that it was supposed to be witty... Ummm, ok... Them talking about Royales with cheese is wit? I get it, that's how people talk in real life, but still. I can appreciate his dialogue, because it reveals a lot about the characters as they say it. My friend and I agreed on this during Death Proof. But what I think it is is because people think it's "cool", and yes, it is cool, but that's it. So, it's hip to call it cool. The mid-nineties, gotta love 'em.

I plan on watching PF again, along with RD and JB (never saw those two before and a second viewing of DP coming very soon). I watched Kill Bill in one sitting. It was pretty good. But it felt more like a rip-off than homage. But a very good film. I don't really care about seeing an uncensored version, because I think the Crazy 88 sequence was better in black and white. Four Rooms was funny, I liked that one (The Man From Hollywood) as much as The Misbehavours (Rodriguez's contribution).

I didn't think Death Proof was that bad. Planet Terror was more fun and got to the point right away. Death Proof was slow, and yeah, the first third was pretty boring (dialogue again), but the second and third parts were awesome Spoiler with them beating the Hell out of him at the end the icing on the cake. It wouldn't have been had "THE END" had not just appeared when they started cheering. Although the chase scenes were awesome. And this batch of girls were likeable, so it was better and redeemed itself, otherwise I wouldn't have liked it at all.

Rushmore is one of my all time favs. In a weird way I actually kind of like other people not like it because that makes it mine .

I'll agree profusely with Pulp Fiction. I think it's about 1/3 a good film, but the rest never did it for me. I'm a much bigger fan of Tarantino's visuals than his dialogue (I also don't really like Reservoir Dogs). I also think he's grown as a filmmaker, as Jackie Brown and Kill Bill are my favourites of his. Death Proof was a small step down, but still pretty good.

IMO, Rushmore was great, not the best movie I've ever seen, but it lived up to its hype. The Life Aquatic was the first Anderson film I saw, and it was probably the better film I checked out on DVD last year.

I will get blasted for this, but "Pulp Fiction". Not awful, but not the brilliant film everyone makes it out to be.

I've stayed out of the thread until now, but I think something needs to be said. Basically, £ukasz D, you have Gabe to thank for your continued presence on the site. I was going to ban you for insulting a contributor without any provocation, but he rose above it.

However, I'll make this clear once again: we don't tolerate personal attacks on our contributors. As Gabe said, none of us have problems with you disagreeing with our opinions, but we do have a big problem with you calling us idiots or s**tty writers. When it comes to the genres he's interested in, I doubt you'll find a more knowledgeable and passionate writer than Gabe, and he always gives it 100% even if he's not that interested in the film he's reviewing (such as all of the generic Asian horror stuff he gets stuck with).

You seem to be completely incapable of differentiating between Gabe's opinion and his ability to analyse any given film. You've offered no real explanation for your attack, and you brought politics into a discussion about movies for absolutely no reason whatsoever. As it stands, Gabe's a far better ambassador for the USA than you are for Poland, and the only s**tty thing around here is your attitude.

I agree on The Ring. I didn't really like the original either. Didn't scare me.

Stubby, did you ever see Rushmore or Life Aquatic? Pretty much the same thing as Royal Tannenbaums, but I'm curious as to if you just don't like Wes Anderson's style or if you just didn't like that particular flick.

I ended up watching Seventh Seal with the 'expert' commentary track, and it helped me to enjoy myself a bit more. I think Hour of the Wolf was a better Bergman flick, but I've still not seen Wild Strawberries or Virgin Spring.

Blimey, there are so many but most of the really overrated ones have already been mentioned so I'll add:

The Ring The Exorcist

If they've already been mentioned then I apologise, I kind of glanced over a lot of stuff due to Gabe and £ukaszD's argument...

Oh, and in regards to LOTR - My god, if I go to hell it will consist of sitting through all of the extended editions of these films... although I appreciate that they are loved by many and have no problem what-so-ever with that (just so as I don't get shouted at or offend anyone... :0) )

I could not understand "Jarhead" or "Walk The Line". I stopped watching halfway through both. Also, I was expecting better from "The Weather Man", since I'm a HUGE fan of Nicolas Cage. I'm sure there's more. Can't think of one right now.

I'd have to say Forrest Gump. I've never understod the appeal of this movie. There are some good performances but the story is awful. The main character just stumbles and bumbles through important places and events throughout the 60's. I also didn't see what he saw in his girlfriend character, can't remember the character or actress' name. I just recall her being a very unlikable character who treated him badly.

I was about to say something in the regard it is how you say it - for example you could always say "I thought that 'X' was blah blah blah" and leave it at that rather than say "You are an idiot because I think that....."

You know, I probably have a lot more awful things to say about my country than you could ever know.

Yet I notice that the political stuff, the sure fire 'make me mad' stuff was the only part of my post you seem to have responded to. Is that because it's compleatly besides the point and you realize you don't have anything to add or say for yourself. You're so self centered that you think that all of Poland is behind you because some random American is calling you out for giving him a hard time.

So you try to tell me the same thing I told you, then you decide that this skirmish among two film fans actually has something to do with world politics? This has nothing to do with where either of us live, this has to do with you starting s**t after I, and all the other writers, administrators, editors, and readers have been nothing but patient with your consistantly rude persona. If broad, random politics is your only response than this conversation is over.

u know what...i don't even bother talking to u...and to be honest i don't give a damn what u think...and belive me..u don't want me to tell u what i think about your country - but just check what almost Entire world thinks about it- u'll see. And pleas...u throw at me that i sayed that abou POL and Israel....your country my friend tells us all every single day that force and war are the only solutions..and if we don't agree with it, it means we are against u.

and as for Lazenby..what i meant was that, although i liked him, he was bashed all over by most fans..so this is why non-english actor should not play Bond - to big risk.

Ah, here he is again. You do realize you're telling me to do exactly what I already told you to do, right? Did you read those things I posted a few lines back about not judging people based on their opinions? Did you forget that you called me 'low' and refered to my writing as 's**tty'? Was that a different £ukasz D that was telling me I was wrong to think the way I did, because it seems like this new £ukasz D is feeling a little defensive about his opinions about now.

I never, ever told you to think a certain way. I never told you your opinion was wrong. I asked you not to insult me, I called you out on a childish attitude. Stop trying to play a martyr, you aren't the one under attack. Or at least you weren't until you crossed the line and made it personal.

Are you going to answer my other question, or are you just going to ignore it and whine about my supposed attack on your freedom of thought? Nobody is telling you you have to like me or my opinion, or what I write, what I'm telling you is that we are grown-ups here having a discussion, and we don't have patients for people that can't stand judgements that don't gel with their own.

Oh, and try to remember not to play politics, if I remember correctly you're the one that said we should 'let them (the PLO and Israel) fight and kill each other to the last one-maybe this is the only way to peace in this region', and almost got banned for cracking a joke about an Iranian reader being a car bomber. You can't whine about the United States telling the world what to think after parroting their most right-wing rhetoric.

Wait, are you contraditing yourself again? Didn't you say: "and with Lazenby we've learned that any other non-british actor just don't work." My God man, make up your mind.

Rodrigo Giust wrote:Quote: "From Russia With Love" is excellent, come on. "Goldfinger" is overrated, but still quite good. The rest... Not so much... Watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that one is awesome. Yes, I forgot about "From Russia..." I don´t think it was excellent but I did enjoyed it. I agree with you on "Goldfinger", I said "What is so good about this?". "Dr. No" was awfully bad. I did watch "On her majesty´s..." and I did like that one. I think Goldfinger is one of the bether Bonds..but i agree it is probably most dark and sirious of all Bonds. As for Dr. No - i like it, although it's not the best of Connery's Bonds. "On Her...." is very good...i wish Lazenby played Bond more than one time

Quote: "From Russia With Love" is excellent, come on. "Goldfinger" is overrated, but still quite good. The rest... Not so much... Watch "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", that one is awesome. Yes, I forgot about "From Russia..." I don´t think it was excellent but I did enjoyed it. I agree with you on "Goldfinger", I said "What is so good about this?". "Dr. No" was awfully bad. I did watch "On her majesty´s..." and I did like that one.

See, Full Metal Jacket, great example. This is why I started this. And Chairiots of Fire is another great example, though I think its charm has declined for the general public as well over the last few years.

Nothing BUT good can come of this. I can think of at least 3 instances just from memory where £ukasz D has been outright rude and vicious when it comes to the opinions of others. Not only that, but nearly every other statement he makes is insulting an entire group of people. And then the other half is full of such hypocrisy it's past the point of annoying, it's aggrivating. Everything Gabe says is 100% true and I'm glad someone with much better writing skills is now willing to call him out on it.

Full Metal Jacket. Not a bad movie at all, but the 1st half is so much better than the second it's nearly criminal.

No, your problem is you don't understand criticism. I must have dreamed all those times you told me a wrote good reviews, how's about you tell me what's specifically wrong with my writting, but try not to include anything about your opinion or mine. Give me some examples of my 'lack of style', or maybe you could tell me something constructive about my overall structure. Maybe you think my deconstruction is somehow off in a few cases. Could I have perhaps used incorrect grammer? Maybe my contextualization was off, can I have a few examples of that?

You are attacking me. You are directly commenting to me, it's an attack. Is this all you can do to defend yourself, continue to insult my taste? That's it? I already told you that I don't care what you think. I know you think you're the center of the universe, but the rest of us have our own thoughts. I'm not going to defend my taste to someone who doesn't even understand to concept of other people.

I'm not pissed off, I'm hoping to open your eyes. Apprently it didn't work. I'm happy to know that you obsess over my opinions enough to regularly take the time out of your day to tell everyone about it, but honestly it's pretty sad. You always try to suck up after a piss-fit, so I know you love me.

Seriously though, the whole point of this particular thread was to open discussion about popular film. When the first two people mentioned three of my favoirite films, I took it. I didn't call them names, I didn't try to attack their work, I was an adult about it and tried to continue the discussion. You immediately threw a little hissy fit and tried to insult me. Poor baby. Really I feel bad. Honestly. You're a real grown-up capable of grown-up discussion.

You think that it's your right to be a rude son of a b***h every time I post a review? I've tried to be patient with your xenophobic, close-minded ass, but now you're directly insulting me based on my taste and opinion. I don't give a s**t how old you actually are, you act like a 5 year old. We all know that someone who actually spent money on a copy of Serving Sara has the right to think his opinion counts for s**t, but what else is particularly s**tty about my reviews? Do you even read them? I have a strong feeling you don't based on the random things you post at the bottom of the page.

While I understand you think you're special, I can't understand why you think it's OK to insult me. I don't give a f**k if you don't like the same things as me. Really, your opinion on film matter about as much as a cricket's, especially if you're completely incapable of having a discussion about it without namecalling or insults. You are entitled to hate movies others like, but you are not entitled to be a b*****d to others, especially when they haven't done anything to outwordly attack you.

Learn to seperate your tastes in entertainment and the worth of another human being. I think Head of State, Bad Boys, Johnny English, Perfect Storm, Tomb Raider, Larger Then Life, Meet the Parents, Nutty Professor 2, Notting Hill, Rat Race, Spy Game, The Whole Nine Yards, and Blood Work are all s**t, but I never judged you as a person based on this, I judge you based on the mean spirited and pissed off things you always have to say.

Cheddar J. Cheese wrote: I must ask this one question: Why then, if they bored you to death, why would you jump at the chance to buy the Extended Editions for 25 quid? Why would you [want to] buy movies that bore you? Longer versions I might add.

goat boy wrote: The Lord Of The Rings trilogy for chucking out any relevance towards the book in exchange for another brainless action packed flick.

Uh huh...

£ukasz D wrote: oo Gabe..u are starting to supprise me even more....and i thought u couldn't go any lower after some of your latest s****-reviews...but i see u can.

As for me, i'd say LOTR- i just don't dig it..i don't even know why, but this film bore me to death.

You don't really have to insult his reviews you know, they're very well written and he reviews movies he likes (or at least mostly a genre he enjoys). You can disagree with them, but don't insult the reviews themselves.

I must ask this one question: Why then, if they bored you to death, why would you jump at the chance to buy the Extended Editions for 25 quid? Why would you [want to] buy movies that bore you? Longer versions I might add. And also, if you didn't like the first one, why would you watch the next two? (They are all pretty much able to stand on their own, just the new characters can get a little confusing)

£ukasz D wrote on 25th November 2006 20:56: yamiiguy wrote: Well went into Virgin Megastores today and they had the 12 disc EE boxset for £24.99 so I picked it up. BARGAIN if I say so myself i'd buy it right away for that price..here at my place you can't buy it for less then Ł68,50

Anything with mel gibson or tom cruise in it. Any Star Wars prequel and the Lord Of The Rings trilogy for chucking out any relevance towards the book in exchange for another brainless action packed flick. King Kong remake and Titanic for the directors over indulgence and god awful scripts, actors ect ect. By the way is it just me or is this over reliance on CGI to make a movie getting worse and worse.

i saw apocalypse now a couple of months ago...not what i expected. i guess some of these movies need to be seen in the era they came out. so here goes...let the hate mail begin...i saw the godfather movies a couple of years ago...and i just could not get into them. lastly...the harry potter movies and the lord of the rings movies. i never read any of the books...so i based watching them on word of mouth. recap: apocalypse now, the godfather movies, harry potter movies, lord of the rings movies.