originally posted by: TheJourney
Yea! You tell em! From now on, I want to know the religion of everyone who gets murdered! THAT is what matters. Christians getting murdered is a
travesty, compared to other religions. We should know the religions of murder victims! So we know how much to care!

ever since they left the roman catholic church and it's increasing in severity since the muslim brotherood incident in egypt. this is important to
know.

This is somewhat tangential remark, but Coptic Christians were never formally under Roman Catholic auspice.

Historically, the title "Pope" was first adopted by Pope Heraclas, the 13th Alexandrine Archbishop (232–249 AD), three centuries before it was
assumed by John I, the Roman Bishop (523–526), who ratified the Alexandrian computation of the date of Easter. Bestowing the title on Rome's
Pontiff did not strip it from Alexandria's, and the Roman Catholic Church recognizes this.[1] source

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

originally posted by: TheJourney
Yea! You tell em! From now on, I want to know the religion of everyone who gets murdered! THAT is what matters. Christians getting murdered is a
travesty, compared to other religions. We should know the religions of murder victims! So we know how much to care!

I'm worried about people getting killed. I'm worried about people getting killed by mentalists. The White House,
intentionally or not, in the act of leaving out the word "Christian", removed the power of statement from both the hands of ISIS, and the media
propaganda machine. And of course, the propaganda machine was quick to pounce upon this.

Cuz I tell you what, if I had read the White House statement prior to this thread, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid at its phrasing.

ISIS is killing everyone they can get their hands on. There is no pattern here. Making this all about Christians takes away from everyone else who is
being killed.

No pattern here?
We're talking about this recent atrocity...in this thread.
ISIS SAID it killed them precisely because they were Christians.
ISIS MADE this all about Christians...and has the audio and video to prove it!
How many times must that point be stated?
How does the fact that they're Christians take anything away from everyone else who is killed?!!
That's simply ludicrous!

does anyone remember protoplasmic traveller's thread "All Roads Lead to Rome", in which he said the vatican was preparing to toss their parishoners
under the bus for fulfillment of the end of the precessional age (end of the age of pisces, beginning of age of aquarius. for some stupid reason, the
end of the age must be precipitated by massive sacrifices of blood). how many of isis' victims have been roman catholic? anybody know?

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

Well yes, the public could protest, but i am sure that the USA knows what it is doing.

Obama is already attacking IS in Syria and Iraq, with some success. It would be good to see some action against IS in Egypt and Libya. That would have
to be done with the cooperation of the governments though. Libya is a mess, and that would likely turn to another horrible war, considering the state
of the country, if you can even call it that anymore...Egyptian groups would be marginally easier to deal with.

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

So now it's an impeachable offense to NOT invade
Egypt and extract revenge on a group that killed some Egyptians? Since when does killing a Christian somewhere in the world outside America fall under
America's jurisdiction?

As far as i know, most of their Christian victims have been Assyrian Christians. Wikipedia states that "the modern Assyrian Church of the East is not
in communion with any other churches, either Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, or Catholic."

Yea ok i think your plan of us sitting back and finger pointing is the best plan we could come up with.

Do you have a problem with the truth? Every time we invade nations or even get involved with nations in the ME we help to create groups like this.

You use double speak by saying people are getting involved.

That isn't double speak it is fact.

That is good they are getting involved but the real question is what overall effect is their involvment having on the growth of isis?

How much has ISIS grown since other nations in the ME has started fighting them? I'm sure your can link the stats.

You do not state truth by saying muslim extremist are not a threat to the usa.

You need to work on your reading skills I said ISIS isn't a threat to America so I didn't lie you are. But seeing how you want to drift from the
topic of the thread I'll play along. Yes Muslim extremist are a threat to America so are Christian extremist and Jewish extremist. According to the
FBI Muslims commit the fewest terrorist attacks against America but for some reason we hear about them the most why is that? It wouldn't be because
the so called "Evangelical Christians" that infects our congress wants America in the middle of a religious war?

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

So now it's an impeachable offense to NOT invade
Egypt and extract revenge on a group that killed some Egyptians? Since when does killing a Christian somewhere in the world outside America fall under
America's jurisdiction?

Not doing the will of the people would empower those who can find any number of impeachable offenses by this POTUS. The Benghazi treachery would
probably be enough if the will was there and it was calculated more gained politically than lost.

In order for Obama to hold on and not lose his legacy, he cannot allow the pendulum to swing the other way. That has probably more to do with ignoring
facts and downplaying events than calculating what the enemy reaction would be.

really? i'm not catholic but my suggestion would be to 1) get out of rome, 2) get out of europe, and 3) get out of egypt, if you're a christian of
any variety. i'd like to suggest that you come to america, but i don't think they want any more christians or white people here.

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

So if Obama starts sending people over there to fight I'm sure you are more than willing to join up and request to go to the front lines aren't you?
Give one logical reason as to why we shouldn't just let these nations deal with their own problems. How many Americans dying is acceptable fighting
ISIS?

There are an enormous amount of, basically psycopathic./ sociopathic people killing people in the middle east. Check.
This group's agenda is to start a race/ religious war. Check.
They want to create hatred and division by way of media. Check.
The only way to defeat them is by uniting against the common enemy. Check.

it's called accurate reporting. and it keeps them from covering up the identities of the victims.

The media has made it very clear that these victims were Coptic Christians.

The White House didn't call them Christians because doing so would play into the hands of IS, which used their deaths as a religious message and
threat to the West. By not calling the victims Christians, the White House effectively extinguished IS' hope of expanding religious tension and
conflict with their actions. The USA has rendered their religious threat ineffective.

In this instance, it is you and other Christians who are falling for IS' traps. They want you to get angry because of their religious persecution.
These murders are a horrible thing, but the best we can do is not play into the hands of IS, and instead mourn the passing of these innocent
victims.

The best thing we can do is have a public outcry for our POTUS Commander in Chief to go over there and wipe these enemies out, or get impeached out of
his office. The way he handled this was to cockblock it from happening, plain and simple.

So now it's an impeachable offense to NOT invade
Egypt and extract revenge on a group that killed some Egyptians? Since when does killing a Christian somewhere in the world outside America fall under
America's jurisdiction?

Not doing the will of the people would empower those who can find any number of impeachable offenses by this POTUS. The Benghazi treachery would
probably be enough if the will was there and it was calculated more gained politically than lost.

In order for Obama to hold on and not lose his legacy, he cannot allow the pendulum to swing the other way. That has probably more to do with ignoring
facts and downplaying events than calculating what the enemy reaction would be.

So because our corporate-controlled media outlets have whipped
the masses into an anti-Muslim frenzy, Obama must "obey the will of the people" and go invade other countries that have Muslims in them? Check.

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