(CNN) - The drive for a tough federal gun control law has hit a political roadblock. But that's not silencing Joe Biden and Mike Bloomberg.

The loquacious vice president and the outspoken New York mayor on Thursday touted what they term the "importance of passing common sense legislation to reduce gun violence," including the need for a stiff background check system for all gun sales.

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Any law that includes a national registry for gun owners is a non-starter.

March 21, 2013 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |

Rick McDaniel

More like.......dictators trying to take away your Constitutional RIGHTS!

March 21, 2013 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |

Tea Party Thomas

Common sense should tell Biden that in America we have the right to bear arms to protect us from the government.

March 21, 2013 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |

Samuel Tassone

I am of no party affiliation but I consider myself an independent conservative. This gun ban legislation has turned political as people like Harry Reid has gone against his previous beliefs and has no backbone. I think there is a reasonable and simple solution to this problem that shouldn't affect most people. I think that the shape of the guns should not be considered but limit the magazine size to 8 or 10 rounds. Background checks is a no-brainer on all gun exchanges whether commercial or personal. Turn in all illegal magazines [maybe for cash]. Mandatory minium 5 years prison for anyone caught with an illegal gun regardless of age. If anybody thinks they can protect themselves in this day and age from the US Government or even the local police are dreaming. Do we need to show pictures of victims to bring people to their senses. A concerned citizen, Sam Tassone Cicero,NY

March 21, 2013 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |

sonny chapman

The Second Amendment doesn't stand alone. The Non-Gun Owners of this Country have rights too !

March 21, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |

pissed off mom

i will bet if those children in newtown who were killed were the children of the politicians or the nra upper crust something would be done! rip poor forgotten babies!

March 21, 2013 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |

The GOP need to pack up and leave

Common sense laws?

Okay.

1. Always do background checks. The state should offer them for free for private sales. You make a phone call and get an answer. For law-abiding citizens, this is fine. For criminals, they're not going to get their name on any type of gun-owner's database.

2. You have to pass a driving test to get a license to drive? Maybe you should have to pass a safety test and a shooting test to get a license to own a gun AFTER you've passed a background check. For criminals, it wouldn't matter because they'll steal guns or buy them in sneaky ways so they can own a gun without having to get a license or take a test.

The truth is that we can pass all the laws we want, common sense or otherwise, but it won't matter to the bad guys. They'll get guns and they'll use them. Most of the time, gun violence is perpetrated by bad guys. Yes, there are times when we've got lone shooters who do untold damage with automatic weapons. We've had post office shootings, school shootings, theater shootings, a guy with a rifle in a bell tower - we could go on all day. The truth of the matter is that they can pass all the gun laws in the world. If someone wants a gun and wants to use it, they will no matter what the law.

March 21, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |

Rudy NYC

Rick McDaniel wrote:

More like.......dictators trying to take away your Constitutional RIGHTS!
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I know that common sense legislation might mean that a lot of good old boys may no longer be able to buy more guns because they have minor criminal offenses, like DUI and domestic violence on their records, but that's just too bad. No one complains about taking away the right to vote from criminals, so stop the complailnts about doing the same for guns.

March 21, 2013 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |

Fair is Fair

sonny chapman

The Second Amendment doesn't stand alone. The Non-Gun Owners of this Country have rights too !
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The second ammendment provides the right to legal ownership of arms. Period.

In the mantra of "Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one" and "Don't like abortion? Don't have one.", I say "Don't like guns? Don't own one".

March 21, 2013 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |

B.

Any country that murders 30, 000 people a year has got a serious problem!

Most, if not all gun freaks have to have a their "compensator" to convince themselves that they are verily what they think they are..

What we also lack is a Congress that backs up what Most Americans want which is a stop to the madness of out of control Gun Mania plaguing us all. Never in our history have we experienced such a gutless Congress on the Republican side!

March 21, 2013 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |

rs

Yup, here it is. The "pro-life" party is sticking up for the rights of lunatics to kill our kids with military grade weapons. Something seem strange about that to you?

Maybe not, they also stand up for the rights of rapists to reproduce witth their wacko zygote rights bills.

The Republicans are a lost cause!

March 21, 2013 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |

rs

The second ammendment provides the right to legal ownership of arms. Period.
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Wrong, as usual. Every Right in the Bill of Rights comes with exceptions and limitations. There are NO absolute rights.

March 21, 2013 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |

Rudy NYC

Fair is Fair wrote:

In the mantra of "Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one" and "Don't like abortion? Don't have one.", I say "Don't like guns? Don't own one".
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"Don't want criminals and terrorists easily obtaining guns. Gotta stop 'em." And if that means DUI-prone Bubba can no longer buy guns until he gets an "okay" from a judge, then so be it. The same goes for the wife beaters, too.

March 21, 2013 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |

Malory Archer

The GOP need to pack up and leave

If so-called "law-abiding citizens" were more responsible with their weapons, they wouldn't fall into the hands of criminals.

March 21, 2013 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |

Malory Archer

Fair is Fair

In the mantra of "Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one" and "Don't like abortion? Don't have one.", I say "Don't like guns? Don't own one".

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Your post is a prime example of a false equivalence. For starters, NOBODY is trying to take away your guns. Secondly, neither a gay couple getting married, or a woman choosing to make a very personal and tragic choice in no way affects YOU. Unfettered access to all and sundry of weaponry is a threat to EVERYONE! The college student who shot himself in Orlando the other day had TWO fully loaded 120-round clips, among other bags of goodies that he planned to use. Had his roommate been 5 minutes later in arriving, that monster would have had time to empty BOTH.

March 21, 2013 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |

Rudy NYC

Fair is Fair wrote:

The second ammendment provides the right to legal ownership of arms. Period.
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I agree. The keyword here is "legal." Some folks should not have that right. Period. "Down goes Frazier!"

March 21, 2013 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |

john

The term "common sense" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the target audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothe their message in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person. For example, a propaganda leaflet may make an argument on a macroeconomic issue, such as unemployment insurance benefits, using everyday terms: "given that the country has little money during this recession, we should stop paying unemployment benefits to those who do not work, because that is like maxing out all your credit cards during a tight period, when you should be tightening your belt." A common example of this type of propaganda is a political figure like Joe Biden, in a backyard or shop doing daily routine things. This image appeals to the common person.
The Vice President and the liberal media are trying to use this term to infer that if you don't support their gun control measures, you don't have common sense. It is a technique that has been used by dictators throughout the ages.

March 21, 2013 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |

JeffersonLives

rs said there are exceptions to the bill of rights and limitations.....hmmm.. that's odd I just read through them and didn't find many exceptions...what I found is a whole lot of restraints on the Federal government from infringing on individual rights.

Pack it up gungrabbers...you lost

March 21, 2013 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |

Al-NY,NY

Malory Archer

If so-called "law-abiding citizens" were more responsible with their weapons, they wouldn't fall into the hands of criminals.
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How many of these "criminal wackos" that go on shooting sprees got their guns from irresponsible pa and ma Bubba and Billie Jean not securing them?

March 21, 2013 01:35 pm at 1:35 pm |

rs

Jefferson Lives-
Ever hear of the Supreme Court?

March 21, 2013 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |

rs

Al-NY,NY

Malory Archer

If so-called "law-abiding citizens" were more responsible with their weapons, they wouldn't fall into the hands of criminals.
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How many of these "criminal wackos" that go on shooting sprees got their guns from irresponsible pa and ma Bubba and Billie Jean not securing them?
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The Connecticut primary schools shooter for one. Next question, please.