<quoted text>I think this PC stuff re those names is ridiculous. Maybe all teams should have the name like the Scottsdale CC Artichokes. The CA farmers can then protest.

What irks me most is that people take great pride in their team and applaud it and revel in it....how is it bad to use when you're heralding it??? When did being associated with the name be a bad thing?And as someone who is 1/32 Cherokee, it's just stupid, lol.

<quoted text>I think this PC stuff re those names is ridiculous. Maybe all teams should have the name like the Scottsdale CC Artichokes. The CA farmers can then protest.

I'm surprised when this is a complaint by our American Indians....as their culture is dying off at a record pace....soon to only be seen in movies and/or relegated to being known as, "Casino-owner Americans"...lol....

I remember reading articles that said (and I forget which tribes or teams were involved) But basically they were for keeping the names. They did not find any offense and felt it promoted their heritage in a positive way.

This is probably a small group of Native Americans with a lawyer looking to make a name for themselves. Kinda like insisting braille be put on the keys of the ATM.

And before anybody gets all high and mighty about the blind needing it, let me ask you when have you EVER seen a blind person using an atm? I know blind folk and they always have a sighted person with them, always!

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<quoted text> I'm surprised when this is a complaint by our American Indians....as their culture is dying off at a record pace....soon to only be seen in movies and/or relegated to being known as, "Casino-owner Americans"...lol....

I remember reading articles that said (and I forget which tribes or teams were involved) But basically they were for keeping the names. They did not find any offense and felt it promoted their heritage in a positive way.This is probably a small group of Native Americans with a lawyer looking to make a name for themselves. Kinda like insisting braille be put on the keys of the ATM.And before anybody gets all high and mighty about the blind needing it, let me ask you when have you EVER seen a blind person using an atm? I know blind folk and they always have a sighted person with them, always!<quoted text>

I always wondered about the braille sign next to the elevator saying what floor it is. How will they know where the sign is so they can read the braille?

<quoted text>I always wondered about the braille sign next to the elevator saying what floor it is. How will they know where the sign is so they can read the braille?

Many blind people get a lot of training so they can be more mobile. They can be incredibly intuitive when it comes to getting around. When I worked at a county building the cafeteria cashier was blind and let me tell you he knew his paper money. People were honest also and told him the face amount.

They know about where the sign is and can then search it. That goes for the ATM. As far as I'm concerned the braille on an ATM is not interfering with my use so what's the big deal. Maybe Race hasn't seen anyone using that and neither have I, but I'm not in a big city environment on a daily basis so I'm going to assume that it is used from time to time.

I remember reading articles that said (and I forget which tribes or teams were involved) But basically they were for keeping the names. They did not find any offense and felt it promoted their heritage in a positive way.This is probably a small group of Native Americans with a lawyer looking to make a name for themselves. Kinda like insisting braille be put on the keys of the ATM.And before anybody gets all high and mighty about the blind needing it, let me ask you when have you EVER seen a blind person using an atm? I know blind folk and they always have a sighted person with them, always!<quoted text>

Yes, I have seen blind people use the ATM. But I do live in Chicago and the Lighthouse for the Blind is in the City and we have a blind person working where I work. The Lighthouse is an extremely reputable and helpful charity for the blind that teaches the blind among other things.

<quoted text>Many blind people get a lot of training so they can be more mobile. They can be incredibly intuitive when it comes to getting around. When I worked at a county building the cafeteria cashier was blind and let me tell you he knew his paper money. People were honest also and told him the face amount.They know about where the sign is and can then search it. That goes for the ATM. As far as I'm concerned the braille on an ATM is not interfering with my use so what's the big deal. Maybe Race hasn't seen anyone using that and neither have I, but I'm not in a big city environment on a daily basis so I'm going to assume that it is used from time to time.

Not that it bothers me in the least. But I always wondered because the elevator signs aren't always in the same place. Could be on the left, right straight ahead and across from teh elevator...

I remember reading articles that said (and I forget which tribes or teams were involved) But basically they were for keeping the names. They did not find any offense and felt it promoted their heritage in a positive way.This is probably a small group of Native Americans with a lawyer looking to make a name for themselves. Kinda like insisting braille be put on the keys of the ATM.And before anybody gets all high and mighty about the blind needing it, let me ask you when have you EVER seen a blind person using an atm? I know blind folk and they always have a sighted person with them, always!<quoted text>

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