"AND AS MUCH AS SOME HAVE DISCOUNTED THE Wii U ALREADY AND THINK THE NEW LAUNCHES OF THE CONSOLES FROM SONY AND MICROSOFT WILL MAKE THE Wii U IRRELEVANT, Raines knows better than to count Nintendo out. "This industry has a lot of cynicism and people love to say stuff isn't going to work, but we think the Wii U is a real console that's been disappointing for a couple months,..."

Anyway this article is a good read, most of the things Raines says is right and true, we still haven't heard anything about the next Xbox though and I am starting to think other people know more about the Xbox than MS itself does lool :P, I believe by E3 every gamer will have their choice on what console to get

EDIT: @nukeitall and @WrAiTh_Sp3cTr3 I do not know why you are unhappy, I was saying how that particular point that Raines said was a burn, not the entire quote. I do believe that once Nintendo start rolling out IP's, they will sell more, that is just the way Nintendo are.

No Microsoft does not need to start giving info on the next xbox, E3 is coming so why would they not want to wait and show all then when the world is watching? Only the obsessed impatient gamers care anyway, most folks just enjoy playing games now and will get excited when somethings announced.

@ husomcreally now MS is paying gamestop....really? that's the best you can come up with?

reality check: if MS is rumored to stop used game sales. it will only hurt gamestop and no amount of money givin from MS will stop the decline in their business.which is to sell "used games" and is MS decides to stop used games. do you really think sony wouldn't be far behind since they also lose money from use games.

"And as much as some have discounted the Wii U already and think the launches of new consoles from Sony and Microsoft will make Wii U irrelevant, Raines knows better than to count Nintendo out. "This industry has a lot of cynicism and people love to say stuff isn't going to work, but we think the Wii U is a real console that's been disappointing for a couple months, but we think there's more there when the first-party titles come out. Nintendo's got a few up their sleeve," he said."

Remember 3DS and it's slow start? What is it doing now?

Nintendo has been in this for the longest time, so I wouldn't under-estimate them.

"And as much as some have discounted the Wii U already and think the launches of new consoles from Sony and Microsoft will make Wii U irrelevant, Raines knows better than to count Nintendo out. "This industry has a lot of cynicism and people love to say stuff isn't going to work, but we think the Wii U is a real console that's been disappointing for a couple months, but we think there's more there when the first-party titles come out. Nintendo's got a few up their sleeve," he said.

"We've been spending a lot of time with Microsoft, but we have to let them take the lead on this, but it will be a very hot, compelling device. They are doing some really cool stuff, and I'm eager to hear them start their announcements because I think the world is going to stand up and take notice," Raines commented."

I think this is pretty interesting. "The world will stay up and take notice" seems like they have something pretty big on their hands.

lol you should reed what this same ceo has to say about the wiiu as he is so excited for it he craps his pants?? lol according to him the wii-u is a real next-gen console. sure it is. but can it do nexgen graphics??

My guess is similar, but more economically priced hardware (similar enough to run the same games), and a focus instead going on bundling kinect with every system and pushing for the device to be an entertainment hub. Expect a big focus on media, not just games.

-Sanzaru is already working on a new project for Sony. -Nihilistic im glad they almost got destroyed. -Superbot has themselves to blame Sony advertised the hell out of PSASBR but alot of stuff was missing polish. -Lightbox should have made Warhawk 2 wasnt impressed by Starhawks RTS stuff. -Jaffe leaving eat sleep play days before twisted metal shipped, didnt help nor did trying to run the studio from home help.

Or he could just say nothing, wait for MS announcement/reveal, see the feedback, then comment. Why is it so hard to believe that the next xbox might be amazing? You know if the next xbox is on par or even slightly better spec wise then the PS4, doesn't mean it will be better in the long run. It's clear E3 is the big day and until then, just wait to see it before you write them off.

sure M$ could have something great and i'm not worried at all about whatever the outcome might be of the next generation. (really could care less)

i'm just saying that what this guys says is just comical kinda like Micheal patcher, total nonsensical. its just funny how people cling to his every word while it's obvious he over dramatizing. come on the world will stop, and stand up to look at what M$ has for a next-gen console?? really?? it's funny come on..

Considering all the negativity surrounding the next xbox from websites that are simply guessing and looking at these "leaked documents" which could have been easily made up, one positive thing comes up for the next xbox from someone who probably has talked to microsoft about the next xbox and seen it and you want to cast it aside??

Well...they are in one of the top positions to have actual information about the next xbox, considering their significant hand in the distribution of video gaming hardware and software....so, I wouldn't completely dismiss them.

As long as they don't insult me to my face again like they have the past two generations by charging $60 for basic P2P online connectivity and applications such as Facebook and Netflix that are free on every single device besides Xbox consoles. The other features are great and as an overall service XBL is fantastic, but the entry barrier being $60 to use P2P technology? how in the world...?

That, as well as hardware reliability and their casual gamer focus are my only other priority issues that would get in the way of a purchase from me. Bring the games too Microsoft, cause I know you will!

But seriously, I don't get how Microsoft can get away with charging for P2P technology and free apps - goes right against consumer standards. And their fans don't have the self-respect to say no to that. PC guys said no a few years back and much respect to them.

@ disagrees, I'd like a response, because I never seem to get one when I bring up this particular topic.

But the TV isn't charging me a yearly fee to view the satellite which I already am paying for. With XBL, you are paying for the internet and then the right to use the internet on your 360. And smart tv's these days don't charge you to use their Netflix and facebook apps. They are free as long as you have an internet connection.

So what did I ask for and what did I get? I asked for responses and I got one. The rest of you who disagreed proved you're loyalist sheep, willing to take that shaft deep for the sake of loyalism.

@ The guy with the Halo avatar:

Well done buddy, you've taken one of the stupidest justifications I've heard on this topic and repeated it. Luckily, the rest of the guys below you have common sense and integrity enough to admit the truth. Cable/satellite channels require a subscription because the provide content that isn't provided by your ISP, plus like others have said, Freeview exists.

Do you know what P2P functionality is and how it works? On the Xbox 360, to play online games you pay Microsoft 60 bucks and then to connect, more often than not, a person hosts the online game and they are the host, then people connect to play via that person's connection, so their console is basically the server. That is P2P and do you think it costs Microsoft to you to be able to do that? Because it doesn't. They've got the unknowing majority exactly where they want them, which is basically holding the online connection to games you have already spent $60 on for ransom.

And how on god's green earth can Microsoft get away with adding a pay-wall for free apps?? FREE APPS! Just how? Who are they paying off? Let me know why you people let Microsoft get away with such disgraceful consumer practices.

Most people seem not smart enough to realise and those that do know but decide to sweep it under the rug just proved that they don't stand up for their characters to say no to something that is beyond a joke.

Call this fanboyism all you want, but I want exposure on this because people are just ignoring it. I want to know how it's being ignored, I want people not to HAVE to pay for the privilege of playing games with their friends, and I want to own an Xbox console.

I see what ur saying but A) as a gamer, I already know I can expect to spend x amount of $ on my favorite hobby and B) I'm still using my LCD tv from 2008. F*** a smart t.v. What is ur response to gamers that say they prefer the 360 controller and all their friends are already on live? For the price of one game I can play online? Not a big deal to me. At the core of it, a t.v. is JUST a box until u hook it up to w.e cable service provider. To max it's use, I gotta subscribe. Right? LIVE bunches all ur apps in a clean, sleek fashion and from the get go that was their plan.

My systems are housed in a credenza, not on the floor, with ample air flow. This current generation just had terrible QC.

I'm just not that keen on jumping on the band wagon for Sony/Microsoft this time around as I was this generation.

I do have the Wii-U (1st day buy), and it just sits there collecting dust for now.

Microsoft is playing their hand close to the chest, and Sony didn't reveal much that has impressed me so far(lack of BC on the PSN is really killing it for me).

I think a lot of people are going to wait a bit and see what's coming before committing, since a lot of those kiddies now have jobs and other responsibilities now other than gaming due to this long generation.

I also keep my consoles unplugged till I use them (I miss the old power switch off the PHAT PS3), I've had to replace 3 PS3 slims PSU's for other people that always had them plugged in, so I ain't taking that risk :)

"We've been spending a lot of time with Microsoft, but we have to let them take the lead on this, but it will be a very hot, compelling device. They are doing some really cool stuff, and I'm eager to hear them start their announcements because I think the world is going to stand up and take notice," Raines commented.

I think the fact that he seems so positive toward it is great. That means the "720" most likely won't be blocking used games because that is a huge part of Gamestop's revenue. That's what I got out of it at least.

It was just an attempt at some Kinect humor. I was weak but Bathyj is known for putting a humorous spin on comments. That said, there is some truth to what K-Crawler said about the Sony fans on N4G. But what are you going to do. It is what it is. What I have learned is that most of the comments should just be ignored. Other readers see exactly what you do. In the end people with check the systems out and see what each will offer then buy the one that appeals to them based on that offering. Comments here do very little to sway anyone

Gamestop is responsible for distributing a large number of console hardware and games. Why would you doubt that microsoft or even sony (prior to when they announced the ps4) would have hesitated sharing useful info (for planning purposes and reshuffling or priorities) to gamestop and other major distributors and retailers?

And I'd think that all of the involved parties would have drawn up a legally binding agreement that would forbid anyone to spill the beans or else have severe penalties for anyone who did.

Don't even start this as a rumor. The original Chinese poster already said it was a April fools joke and trolled the neo gaf reposter. Besides it being fake should be obvious. The heat would be incredible for a console sized box.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr... Post # 235 is where the original posters post is translated. Read on to see how neo gaf was trolled by the Chinese forum this originated from. It was a April fools joke and a obvious one At that, but some people ate desperate to believe anything at this point. I'm a gamer that plays on everything from pc to every console. No bias. Just don't need anymore rumors. Especially dumb ones. Let's wait and see what Microsoft says and stop adding to the pool.