He effectively banned any type of weapons carry outside of the home. Considering he is aware of the court cases pending and completed, it's entirely possible he forsees these carry laws being moot at some point. More ammunition to approve concealed carry.

The California Legislature and Governor have now violated the 2A...we have NO LEGAL way to bear arms without the conscent of the government.

I will use this as my Good Cause Statement.

Even the California Constitution Article 1. Section 1. states our Inalieable Rights as Citizens and the legislature has removed and made illegal oour unlawful EVERY TOOL of self defense.

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CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have
inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and
liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing
and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

Let's face it...CA Legislators are nothing more than modern day gangsters who skim off the top, are above the laws they pass for others and by their regular suspension of Assembly and Senate Rules have Absolutely NO RESPECT or Regard for Rules that govern them or the Rule of Law.

Thank you Governor Brown...I am now going to vote against every incumbant in the Democratic party.

It's all well and good to argue that this was strategic, but I don't think so.

I just don't see how this helps us with getting "carry". The "carry" cases which are likely to get to SCOTUS are already well up there in the pipeline and if you file suit in this case you'll be way behind the curve on getting "carry" approvingly ruled by SCOTUS.

I understand that the argument then becomes a state one. Well, I don't see how this helps us at the state level, either.

There is a good chance that the SCOTUS ruling will say something like "the states must allow you to bear a firearm immediately ready for confrontation in all non-sensitive areas". They may not specify that you must be able to carry your choice of a long gun or a handgun. So the state could still allow CCW while banning long gun carry.

The best explanation for this enactment is that JB is not a solid pro-RKBA kind of guy who is willing to take political risk for the freedom of his subjects.

This is not a huge surprise. But it is disappointing after a largely decent record on the part of JB last year.

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CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Not qualified to give any legal opinion so pay attention at your own risk.

Well to be fair there are quite a few place in Cal that are pretty much shall issue.

If your safety is that much of a concern you can vacate those areas as residences. Besides the changes in legal code there is the very good chance that those bastions of no-carry will be not very pleasant places to be in the near future anyways... by that I mean more than they are right now.

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...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

Herpes is better than HIV. The better analogy here would be neurosyphilis and HIV. That better describes the situation we have here in CA with respect to our choice in politicians.

__________________"What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?""The cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites."
-Anton Scalia, Supreme Court Justice

If you are a lawyer, involved in one of the miriad of lawsuits that are pending a decision in some other pending lawsuit, then you are "winning". If you're a California gun owner then you're being royally screwed.

I understand locked in a trunk is ok. My flintlocks are too long to go in the trunk and nobody makes lockable cases that long either. I gather I can take it between home and hunting grounds in the back seat but where else?

Gov. Brown may not be a 2nd amendment supporters dream come true. But he is our best option since Wilson.

He is also probably our best over all governor since Wilson.

Really, really think about that before anyone breaks out the recall rhetoric

I say that as someone who can count on one hand the number of times I have voted democrat and still have lots of fingers left.

oh really. he wants to raise taxes again. despises prop 13, hasn't been 2a friendly at all. signed high speed rail even though people don't want it anymore. the state is completely borke. he is beholden to unions. where is the positive with him.

oh really. he wants to raise taxes again. despises prop 13, hasn't been 2a friendly at all. signed high speed rail even though people don't want it anymore. the state is completely borke. he is beholden to unions. where is the positive with him.

Wait second, i posted this before! i saw all the vetos!! I tend not to delete my posts out of fairness.

"(c) When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."

Does this only apply if the firearm is not being transported in a motor vehicle?

Yes, you are quoting an exemption. The crime itself only applies when the firearm is being carried outside a vehicle.

PC 26400. (a) A person is guilty of carrying an unloaded firearm
that is not a handgun in an incorporated city or city and county when
that person carries upon his or her person an unloaded firearm that
is not a handgun outside a vehicle while in the incorporated city or
city and county.

When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."

What is the definition of "encased" ??
What are the allowed materials for this encasement ?
Can it be fabric ? Can it be "see-thru" ?

When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."

What is the definition of "encased" ??
What are the allowed materials for this encasement ?
Can it be fabric ? Can it be "see-thru" ?

This is the language from the bill:

PC 16505. For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400)
of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is "encased" when that firearm isenclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of
containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled,
tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

The entire CA Legislative Body is an ultra knee-jerk reactionary group of self-styled modern day Pharaohs who insist on ruling over us "peasants" and every aspect of our lives with their word and opinions becoming Law of the Land, Nevermind the Constitution and it's protections and checks and balances, Nevermind that we as citizens have rights from the ultimate legal authority (Constitution), Nevermind that they are "Representative" of us and our votes and ideals (at this point, I don't whether to laugh or scream).

__________________In Glock We Trust.

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Originally Posted by jeep7081

My wife sleeps better knowing we have a zombie killer... Saiga AK47! Although my neighbor with his AR has restless nights.

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Originally Posted by AleksandreCz

Thank god the Federal Government is there to protect us from the Federal Government

I've learned from previous attempts at constructive discourse that you are either uninterested or incapable of articulating an educated or reasonable response to concerns from California citizens, so I will spare us both the effort and tell you plainly that your scare tactics with AB 1527 and pandering to the film industry shows that you are a large part of the schizophrenic politics that have destroyed California. Rather than solve real problems you instead create mythical boogeymen posing phantom threats to your make believe victims. Take pride in the fact that your congressional district has some of the worst schools in the United States and pat yourself on the back for ignoring that problem and pursuing fantasy problems in their stead. The children thank you for your priorities!