A part of me thinks yes its cruel so should be banned but another part says no as a total ban on hunting with dogs I feel would be a bad thing as I see no problem with ratting or hunting rabbits so I voted no.

A great many people who oppose fox-hunting will find excuses for ritual slaughter, obviously not those on here - both from the masses and from the left - I'm sure you can find the like on Urban75 where I have seen posters boasting of being hunt sabatoers - they will not touch this issue with a bargepole - most will either accept the false reassurances that it is painless and humane or they will claim that our own slaughter methods are just as bad. The thing with fox-hunting is that it allows them also to give vent to their anti-British hatred, it allows them to imagine themselves engaged in a class struggle, waging war on a monied elite. Turning their attention to the sordid backyard gore of the paki community will not provide the same (illusory) affirmation of belief.

Actually, I pretty much agree with you there. However, just because some posers latch on to what they see as a trendy cause, and avoid similar issues that are not so trendy, why should people go against what they feel is right because of that? Surely that is being issue-selective just like the wannabe revolutionaries of Urban75?

I had some city daytripper moaning at me once for killing the mackerel I caught in the harbour. The best way to do this is to stick your finger in their mouths and snap the top of their heads back. It is a lot quicker and more humane than leaving them to die slowly out of water. But you try telling that to an animal rights activist. Acording to these buffoons angling should be abolished alltogether because it is cruel to fish, I ask you! People have been catching fish to eat for thousands of years, and they want to abolish it because the poor little fishy wishy might suffer pain!

The day they ban fishing will be the day they have to arrest me for breaking the ban. Which I will do immediately.

Me, too. I must say though that I eat what I catch. Unless, of course, it's too small.

I just love sea fishing. The amount of winter nights I have spent on Deal Pier near Dover, baiting hooks with freezing fingers. I don't know what it is about the sport, but it gives one an inner calm. Its the cold fresh air, the noise of the waves, and the sight of the sun rising over the sea in the morning. Its a white mans escape from reality. I'll never stop.

Not quite, but you used Urban75 as an argument against the banning of fox hunting. That could be construed as you suggesting that we wouldn't want to be associated with them so we should be pro-hunting. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

A great many people who oppose fox-hunting will find excuses for ritual slaughter...The thing with fox-hunting is that it allows them also to give vent to their anti-British hatred, it allows them to imagine themselves engaged in a class struggle, waging war on a monied elite.

This is all a bit remindful of an old The Avengers episode from about 1966. John Steed and Emma Peel were both taking part in a fox hunt and rather bizzarely in the middle of the hunt a young man and woman showed up protesting with signs. The two protestors even managed to follow the hunting party but their efforts were to no avail. It strikes me as being one of the earlier examples of those we deal with attempting to abuse what should be simple straight forward entertainment by sticking a rather blatant political message to it. Of course nowadays that's common with television.

I have to agree that the anti fox-hunting (for the most part-and particularly from the rad-libs) is in actuallity a part of the de-constructing process against Great Britain. We have the same here in the states with people fighting hunters. It has far less to do with concern for animals and much more to do with another attack on something that is a part of many Americans' identity.

Not quite, but you used Urban75 as an argument against the banning of fox hunting. That could be construed as you suggesting that we wouldn't want to be associated with them so we should be pro-hunting. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

No, it wasn't what I meant and I wasn't actually arguing against the banning of fox hunting - although my own feelings on the issue are somewhat mixed, I think both sides have valid arguments and in the balance I would tend to let it be. I am rather more concerned about the industrial scale cruelty that takes place under the name of ritual slaughter and factory farming - the sheer scale of these ought to have given them priority over foxhunting, which is tiny in comparison. Nature and the wild should be respected but domesticated animals, which we have taken into our care, ought to require of us an especially high level of responsibility. I am sure many of those who campaign for animal rights are equally concerned about these things, but they need to be wary of being manipulated into chasing after the weekend pursuits of White Britons rather than focussing on what is a much larger scale cruelty but is the interest of Jews (and muslims) - ritual slaughter - and industry fatcats (Jews among them no doubt) - the food industry & supermarket chains who have an interest in factory farming to keep supplies plentiful and prices low. There was always a good chance of achieving success in a ban on foxhunting, so that may explain why it came to the fore - the scent of victory - but it has also been very useful to those who have a vested interest in other areas to have people's attention diverted from those areas by an issue which sees White Britons fighting against White Britons over the eradication of White British traditions.