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A Mac attack

The Komets and Lumberjacks had a huge melee at the end of the first period Saturday night. First, there was a fight between the Komets' Lincoln Kaleigh Schrock and the Lumberjacks' John DiPace after an incident started when Muskegon's Tom Galvin slashed Brad MacMillan and MacMillan responded with a shove to the face. Both of them received roughing penalties, and MacMillan celebrated on his way to the penalty box as usual.

That must have ticked off the Lumberjacks because of the next faceoff, Muskegon's Robin Big Snake jumped Komets center Colin Chaulk and Jason Lawmaster jumped Konstantin Shafranov. Big Snake was eventually taken to the penalty box, but not after he tried several times to break away from the linesmen. Then MacMillan came out of the penalty box to jump Lawmaster after he, MacMillan, shoved a linesman out of the way. Then as MacMillan was skating to the penalty box, Big Snake came out of the penalty box but did not fight MacMillan.

According to Rule 70.4, leaving the penalty bench is subject to a 10-game suspension.

Komets may try to argue that Lawmaster was the actual instigator, but I don't see that working.

MacMillan should also be suject to a 10-game suspension for abuse of official under rule 41.3. Big Snake could be subject to the same suspensions.

Ironically, this was the night when IHL Vice President of Hockey Operations Brad Jones delivered the 2009-2010 league rule books. He said they are both suspended indefinitely pending a league ruling which will likely come Monday.

I think they should both sit for 20 games. The league absolutely has to protect its officials.

Comments

Brandon

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:20pm

I can tell you with complete confidence that the Muskegon coach sent those players out there to beat down our players knowing none of the guys on the ice were our "brawlers" I watched him tell Big Snake who to attack from my seat right next to their bench!!! That was so Bush league. Stay tuned for a pic of Bouchards shiner courtesy of Brad MacMillan!!!

Hit Somebody!!!

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:43pm

Ok, I am trying to collect my thoughts here to make a good post.....

I don't blame Brad MacMillan for coming out to protect his teammates. It might be techniquely wrong...but how does anyone allow Big Snake and LawMaster to do what they did? And for Muskegon's coach to send out the Goons to go after Chaulk and Shafronov like he did, the Coach deserves a beat-down and a vacation as well. MacMillan took a slash on the previous play from behind, and a scrum occurred in which Bouchard was in the middle of it and probably opened his stupid trap and got Brad going. Shrock and Dipace, they fought, but Dipace is known as being a dirty player at times that will drop the mitts, so those 2 really don't factor into the 2nd altercation in my book. And MacMillan throwing punches at Bouchard....MacMillan got a roughing penalty only on that play....he didn't continue to pound Bouchard while he was on the ground.

Big Snake and Lawmaster were sent out to injure both of our players. And I am surprised that there weren't more FuryJacks trying to fight our guys on that shift.

Mac throwing down the Linesman was wrong and unfortunate, but Lawmaster got what he deserved, a severe beating.....and I wish there would have been a way that Mac could have dragged Big Fake onto the ice and drubbed him too.

In summary, I think Mac did what he had to do, will he get suspended....yes. Big Snake and Lawmaster need whipped, and Coach Kromm should get several games suspension as well and he needs a butt kicking too.

I know what I say is going to be unpopular, so be it. I said instantly, Mac will get 20 games suspension....several people heard me say it. And I bet that is what he gets....Lawmaster, Big Fake, and Kromm deserve the same suspension as what Mac gets.....or this whole thing is BS.

BAM24

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:46pm

I have no problem with what Mac did; it was necessary at the time. I don't think Mac meant to hit the linesman. It was a glancing blow as he was heading toward Lawmaster. My problem is with the officials. Why were the fights not broken up once they hit the ice? They allowed their goons to pound on Shaf and Chaulk for awhile. I thought Musky's bush league play left with Ramsay, but this coach seems worse. I think Mac deserves a suspension but so do Little Snake and Lawmaster. What is the precedence for a coach suspension considering what happened? It was a planned hit on our skill guys. I hope we get revenge next time we hit the ice. Good game K's!

JungleMonkey

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:46pm

Good for MacMillan. I respect what he did. He shouldn't apologize. Next time somebody should jump Todd Robinson.

I just wish you could have all seen Mike Franke shaking Big Snake's hand after the game. Its a moment I won't soon forget.

Bigjohn

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:54pm

JungleMonkey,Please elaberate

Are you saying Micheal Franke shook BigSnakes hand after the game?
Ummm...Why????

JungleMonkey

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:57pm

I don't know why.. Big Snake came out of the lockerroom to go to the bus.. stopped to talk to Blake. Mike Franke walked up and shook his hand and exchanged a few words like old friends..

Blake Sebring

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 9:59pm

I shook his hand, too. Big whip. Michael had stepped in to make sure nothing happened to increase the situation as the Muskegon players were walking to the bus, and as I was interviewing Robin, Michael walked out to explain to Robin that the reason he did it was for the Lumberjacks' safety. Then Robin said he appreciated it, stuck his hand out and they shook. It was more a professional courtesy thing, not necessarily something done out of respect.

Blake Sebring

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:10pm

Of course, if I hadn't been standing there, I'd have said it was because Michael was thanking Robin for selling a few thousand more tickets for the next dozen Fort Wayne-Muskegon games. LOL.

Dschebig

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:10pm

I don't know if Larry announced it or not but Big Snake received 2 game misconducts. 1 for being the aggressor plus 1 for leaving the box. Lawmaster's game was for being the aggressor. That is why Shafranov didn't get a penalty nor did Chaulker. Mac's game misconduct was for leaving the box. My guess is Bouchard will ride all the they to Muskegon with ice or a steak on his left eye. DiPace got his lunch handed to him by Schrock from where I set. 21 minor penalties the referee must think this is the NHL. He could have called more and in some situations he should have. He should have let some of those he called go. I'm just glad no players left the bench that would have been 10 games for Al and the player who left the bench not a good thing.

JungleMonkey

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:13pm

Who cares if he beat Colin Chaulks face in? As long as more seats get sold.

Bigjohn

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:27pm

Exactly JM. Other then the linesman getting pushed to the ground,Mac did the right thing. But Mac should have went over to Muskys bench and warn their HC that he will get even for his stupid call to attack 2 non-fighters. In a way,I was kinda wishing Ramsey was behind the bench. This game would have been more crazier then what is was. lol

Hit Somebody!!!

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:36pm

What sucks is the suspensions will make it that this thing won't get settled until Mac and Snake can go toe-to-toe on the ice.....in like 3 months. I say no suspensions, lets bring the 2 teams together this week sometime, and lets get it on.

BAM24

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:45pm

Anyone remember Di Pace beating on Shaf last year? This isn't the first time the FuryJack have done something like this. I don't think the pounding Schrock gave Di Pace had anything to do with what happened at the face off. I like that kid; we gotta keep him. I just wish Rodger would have put a beat down on someone too. Can't wait until Nov. 20th! Any chance we can get Bonneau "sent down" for a game?

Hit Somebody!!!

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:48pm

Maybe we could sign Fletcher for a one-game tryout that night???

JungleMonkey

Sat, 10/31/2009 - 10:55pm

As long as it fills the seats...

Alan

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 2:50am

Blake, you had better explain to JungleMonkey that you were just kidding about "sellinng more tickets."

JR

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 6:46am

So leave the box to protect that player for that one instance in the game get booted/suspended and now leave that same player or players vulnerable for more crap like that for the next 10-20 games... IMO, it was freaking stupid! You guys may say you dont blame Mac for what he did; but I will say that I do... The K's best fighter is now going to be warming a seat somewhere in the arena for a good long while protecting the beer and popcorn vendors...

G_Hockey

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 7:30am

Or JR you could see too of your best veterans out for 20 games because of injuries. They were trying to injure our two best players. They couldn't win in hockey so they tried to win in fighting. They were never in the hockey game. There is no room in hockey for what we saw Musky do last night.

JR

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 7:44am

You are assuming they went out there with the intentions of hurting our skill guys after Mac clocked one of thiers... Lets not jump to conclusions by saying they were out there trying to break an arm or something...geez. How many times have we seen Mac take a number and then get payback later on? Pretty much the entire time he's been here... I love that Mac was sticking up for his team mates; but do not like the way he chose to this time...

So G_Hockey, answer this, how is he going to protect our best veterans from the stands for the next 10-20 games??? 10 games = 600 minutes of game action that our best vets will be "defenseless" in your eyes (20 games = 1200 min.). Bottom line is that if Al pulls our best vets off the ice when Kromm sends his fighters in this never happens (he does have last change as home coach)....

JR

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 7:51am

Please answer this question... Was Mac swinging away and clocking Bouchard in the face an attempt to injure??? Or since he's OUR fighter was it just good plain wholesome hockey rough stuff???

big dave

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 8:59am

mac and bouchard was rough stuff. there was a multi player pile up (which bouchard went in to of his own free will) and it was pure coincidance that those 2 come out of it matched up. i really doubt that in that situation, players look to see who it is there are mached up with.

what happen after words was goon hockey / attempt to injure.

Dschebig

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 9:08am

JR-Mac was slashed in the back by Bouchard at the net. He turn around and took exception and punched Bouchard in the eye. Thus the really good looking shiner. It went down hill from there. I respect Mac for defending his teamates. But, it all went to far. I believe that there is room for straight up fighting in hockey. Gooning has no place. It is bad for the game, the families that attend and the children. There should never happen what happened during last nights game. Big Snake and Lawmaster came out with the intent to injure our players. Regardless who has the last change. Those aggressor penalties reflect that. The game misconducts were the right call. The the game misconducts for leaving the boxes were the correct call. Big Snake got two. His suspension should be longer than Mac's. Brad Jones wore out his pen taking notes. I just his judgement to make the correct call. For those who think Off-ice officials should have kept those guys in the boxes -- We are not allowed to touch the players. What volunteer is going to try and stop very strong men who are determined to do what they want?

JR

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 9:28am

Dennis, I understand and agree with your statements. I cant let Al off the hook though, evrybody in the coliseum knew what those guys were coming on the ice to do and Al left his best "defenseless" vets on the ice. He could have changed lines and avoided what happened next. I am sure he was trying to pull some penalties; but never would have thought that the end result would be Mac leaving the box.

JungleMonkey

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 11:40am

Agree with JR 100%... my wife knew what was coming... Sims has to be held accountable to an extent. Bouchard told Chaulk and everyone on the Komet bench it was coming. Seems like the Komets are always the victims, not the culprits.. I miss old school IHL. I miss Fletcher.

Hit Somebody!!!

Sun, 11/01/2009 - 11:52am

I too agree.....what was Al thinking letting our topline go out there when Big Snake was taking the face-off?

Earth to Big Al.....come in Big AL.

Now Brad has to serve a 20+ suspension because Al was napping?

I like Al as a coach and recruiter and as a person.....but where was his head in that situation.....You have to coach the game as to what the situation is.....and Kromm sent out his dogs.....why did we send out our Dead-Meat?

Why was Stayzer on the bench? Rodger can fight well. Thomas can drop them. Varone is a tough kid. MacMillan said Klempa is a solid kid who he wouldn't cross.....

Everyone in the arean knew what was going down....next time....give me Big Al's cell number and I will text him a clue with about 10 seconds to spare so he can protect his team.