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Our development branch for the next big release (i.e. what should become Solaris 12) is visible in our public hg repos on opensolaris.org, so you can see we've moved to Xorg 1.13 series and associated driver updates, and we're starting to look at Xorg 1.14, but have been waiting for the release candidates to begin before really working on it.

I never said that was the final version we'd be looking at for Solaris 12, just that we're continuing to track upstream releases, so any assumptions you've made about release dates are unfounded (and no, I can't tell you what the real schedule is, sorry).

Why bother with bringing KMS to something as meaningless and shitty as (Slow)laris when it's a lot more meaningful to help improve KMS on Linux. After all, crappy OS makers like BSD and Solaris will claim that their OS is for server just to explain their tiny usage share (even though it does not make sense). So they don't need modern graphics, that effort should go to Linux. it's for desktops, servers and everything else.

Oracle should actually stop solaris, sue Openindianan and Openillinois to make them stop and then concentrate on Oracle Linux.

Why bother with bringing KMS to something as meaningless and shitty as (Slow)laris when it's a lot more meaningful to help improve KMS on Linux....

I think that ZFS is still considerably more mature on Solaris/Illumos than on Linux and BSD and that is not about to change anytime soon. Moreover, I'm not sure if Linux is as advanced with tools such as dtrace, truss, crossbow etc.

If not for 3D, one good reason to use KMS is to make the GPUs run well with the system, particularly newer generation GPUs. Some GPUs need to be initialized by a KMS driver in order to activate their power management profile. When running such GPUs with standard VESA drivers, e.g. the cooling fan will run continuously at max speed.

But I guess that is less relevant when running a headless setup as might be desired for file servers and virtualized environments unless we want to take advantage of features such as OpenCL or CUDA.

I think that ZFS is still considerably more mature on Solaris/Illumos than on Linux and BSD and that is not about to change anytime soon. Moreover, I'm not sure if Linux is as advanced with tools such as dtrace, truss, crossbow etc.

If not for 3D, one good reason to use KMS is to make the GPUs run well with the system, particularly newer generation GPUs. Some GPUs need to be initialized by a KMS driver in order to activate their power management profile. When running such GPUs with standard VESA drivers, e.g. the cooling fan will run continuously at max speed.

But I guess that is less relevant when running a headless setup as might be desired for file servers and virtualized environments unless we want to take advantage of features such as OpenCL or CUDA.

There will always be differences, but ZFS support in Linux (particularly Gentoo Linux) is at parity with Illumos in many areas. The OS-independent ZFS code is basically the same at this point. The same is true for FreeBSD-CURRENT. There are many people happily using ZFS on each platform.

Why bother with bringing KMS to something as meaningless and shitty as (Slow)laris when it's a lot more meaningful to help improve KMS on Linux. After all, crappy OS makers like BSD and Solaris will claim that their OS is for server just to explain their tiny usage share (even though it does not make sense). So they don't need modern graphics, that effort should go to Linux. it's for desktops, servers and everything else.

Oracle should actually stop solaris, sue Openindianan and Openillinois to make them stop and then concentrate on Oracle Linux.

Moderators, please! you have to stop this poor loser (probably kraftman) once and for all! I'm getting tired of the same annoying and meaningless crap, and then people wasting their time replying to him (sorry for doing exactly that).
PLEASE, DO SOMETHING!

Moderators, please! you have to stop this poor loser (probably kraftman) once and for all! I'm getting tired of the same annoying and meaningless crap, and then people wasting their time replying to him (sorry for doing exactly that).
PLEASE, DO SOMETHING!

People have right for different opinion. You can add him to ignore list.