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Honesty - parallels? - The topic of honesty (more accurately, lack thereof) has been prevalent in recent political posts - for good reason. Everyone would like to see more openness and honesty from the candidates.
That sounds similar to one of the most common complaints among swingers.
Here's the question - Does anyone think that a person could win the SURVIVOR TV game on a platform of "honesty"?
Personally, I think it highly unlikely.
Honesty in politics? Honesty in swinging? Honesty in game playing?
Any chance?

Just in case it mysteriously disappears - - A cut and paste from another forum
"Posted By: GOODSKICOUPLE Posted on:
Oct 24, 2007 - 5:16 pm
Update for the Swingular Membership: Excuse the long post.
Good Evening Swingers,
NTAKTAGF legal counsel has informed us today that no communication has been heard from Swingular management by 1400 EST, Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007.
Sadly, the speech of a few Swingular members (and some suspected computer shenanigans), as well as the support of that speech by Swingular management has changed Swingular forever. The innocuous place on the internet that Swingular has enjoyed since its inception is now altered. The authorities are being notified.
If the legal action by the State of Florida materializes, it will have to be documented in every annual report that the parent company files. These reports are public documents available to anyone that desires to examine them. This will likely hinder the ability of Swingular to obtain capital, since such jeopardy must be disclosed.
It remains to be seen if the possibility of investigation by the Florida Secretary of State, the Florida U.S. Attorney, or the Internet Task Group will affect the numbers of current members that wish to remain or the inflow of new subscribers.
Today VanCott, Bagley, Cornwall and McCarthy began the process to officially request assistance from the Florida Secretary of State. This will take a little time. The gears of large institutions turn slowly .
To give the members an idea how serious this matter is, VBCM will encourage the Florida General Counsel to pierce the corporate veil. If successful, the executive officers of the company will be held PERSONALY liable for the conduct of the members that decided it would be good business to take the company on its present course. It will be dark times if this occurs.
In a sense, without the knowledge of the membership or maybe even management, the ship has been pointed toward the rocks by a mere handful of people.
If you are curious about these things, VBCM confidently predicted that no communication would be heard from Swingular management. They simply waited, sharpening their tools until they could be used.
While we believe this matter can still be resolved, we are positive that some of it is now irrevocable. How much further it goes, is now up to the general membership and the management. We encourage management to give VBCM a call.
2 hours ago preliminary official correspondence departed Utah via overnight courier to Lynn Hearn, Florida Secretary of State, Chief General Counsel. "

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - So many beautiful people in Utah... come down to Florida...one of the SWING states...LOL

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - This has always been a tough controversy. Religion, swinging. I am agnostic and my GF was LDS. Her family is hardcore LDS still and pushed the faith on their daughter (my GF) and her kids even. They preach that they want their whole family in the religion cuz they need to know "right from wrong". I asked the kids (8 & 6 yrs old) what they learn in church.. seems to me all they learn about is how great their "savior" is, how he loves us, and we can look to him, and family is a "unit".. they dont seem to learn anythign about right and wrong. Yet.. her parents try to preach to me that their religion teaches them right from wrong and that their "right & wrong" is the correct one. They are also very controlling, judgemental, pushy, 2-faced, and negative in every aspect... OMG! is this what u learn in church and how family is supposed to be?? They found out we swing, and told me its adultry and we're cheating and its immoral.. OK, umm.. we;re not married and what we do is 100% consentual... funny, but seems like the more LDS we meet, the more seem to be JACK mormons. so why are LDS swinging or why are swingers in religions that condem it? is it just for the prestige and status of being in the church and to shut the family up??
Ok, #1, I hate ppl who follow a faith and feel theirs is the correct one so much that they push it on everyone and judge other beliefs as the wrong ones rather then understanding tolerance and the fact that there is no such thing as right or wrong... only opinion and difference... what works for you may not work for me.
#2, I hate hypocrates. ppl who preach about how much they follow their religion, go to church and lie in front of everyone there about how much they follow the rules and how the church has saved them.. Then, behind closed doors, they go against everything they believe in. Then they preach about how much they follow their churches rules and its "right & wrong" is the ultimate. Those ppl are called liars and 2-facers..
#3, Kids should be taught "Right & Wrong" from their parents, not a group of ppl that i described in examples #1 & #2. WTF do they know?? Kids should also be introduced to church by their own choice and when they are old enuf to understand it.
[b]In my opinion, If you wanna swing, then it doesnt seem like u really believe in ur church's beliefs... why are u in it? If u believe ur church's teachings above all.. then why are you swinging?[/b]
[b]I have nuthing against either, but I think its best to pick a side. Thats why I dont follow any religion.. I dont believe in any of them... too many hypocrates, liars, 2-facers, judgemental, stuck-ups... people who are willing to bend and cheat their own rules, morals and beliefs behind closed doors and especially when its to their benefit...[/b]

(Utah) Sinful’s “Support Kat’s Breast’s” Fundraiser - Saturday Jun 16, 2018 @ 9:00 PM @ SKY SLC - [quote=FukDoll]anybody know...
do swingers usually do the sky on saturdays?
and do many swingers attend?[/quote]
We were really hoping to go but Father's Day activities for an elderly father whose health isn't good looks like they will prevent us from attending. There IS, however, an event listing on the homepage and it looks like a LOT of really hot, sexy couples will be attending. And the fact that it's for a good cause makes it a no-brainer for anyone who wants to do something fun and meet a lot of sexy people tonight. [em]Emo_54[/em]
Edit: Just looked at the listing. It's at the top of the Local Events listings on the homepage and it says 67 attending. It also lists quite a few of the profiles of those attending and they are freakin' HOT! [em]Emo_12[/em]

Button up rumor - Curious - God that sucks! One nice place for SLC swingers to hang out now it's closed.
Where is everyone going to go now?

shameless commercialism - Where do we let people know what we have to offer? - We actually saw a website just for swingers to advertise their business. I wish I could remember the name of it. We got it from a link on someones profile a while back. Very good idea.

Certified Single Males Program - A new program that benefits respectable single men - I could see a little "course" on swingers ettiquete (sp?) but I think ALL men should take it...My experience has been that men with a girlfriend or wife are far more likely to break "the rules" so to say...
BUT I also think in lieu of that, maybe a system where couples can "ceritfy" the single men as being genuine and real, PLUS the course, the course may be one seal, the certified as cool another....
Who knows...Something should be done to make it a little easier for them...

SANDPETE SWINGERS - Just created a Sandpete Swingers group - What? Great, now we have to drive all the way to Sanpete county just to see you two. Haha. Hope to see you around S & S!

Unanswered emails - Why do people not take the time to respond? - Well we have to agree with everything \"CHAMMY-FL\" wrote ..we too find ourselves busy in life with working out,working,running 2 of our own forum boards as well..so we only seem to answer e-mails from cpls that strike us right away...when we have time we will then go through cpls profiles and pictures.
We are not hardcore swingers(which means we do not need to be in the lifestyle every weekend)
Hope this helps everyone
xoxoxox
Jodi & Luke:)