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Just to set things straight, there are many variants of Assault Rifles, and the UN uses them all depending on the availability of resupply at their location, and the compatibility with the TSFs.

Also, while the Japanese Type-87 did have a variant for precision shooting, by removing the 120mm cannon and including a longer barrel and scope, it is not a true sniper cannon. There have been no details released about other countries having a precision or marksman variant of their assault cannon, including the US AMWS-21. They have sufficient accuracy and range for the purpose, and can be fired with precision in semi-auto mode as per what Stella did in the show. There is the Squad Support Gun used in the European Union, but its more like an MG or large caliber cannon.

That's what the Wiki says. It's apparently better balanced than the AMWS-21, as the weight of the magazines for the 36mm and 120mm are on top, which should help to reduce recoil, as well as the 36mm magazine being more or less centered, as opposed to the AMWS-21, where the weight of the magazine is to the rear of the rifle.

Mind you, this is all conjecture, based on lots and lots of reading.

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~Speaking my mind, even when it costs me~One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine.

I read an a model article from Hobby Japan in complementary with a particular TSFIA chapter, stating that the Type-00C was a candidate to be the Imperial Army next mainstay unit. However, was it already rejected even before entering the evaluation stages in which the Gekkou and the Shiranui 2nd competed?

In terms of performance, I would say the newly commissioned Type-04 should be almost the same as the Type-00C, with better maintainability and production cost.

Just watching "World War Z" and I realized there are a lot of similar of BETA to Zombie. Most noticable are:
1. They are all recycled human corpses.
2. Quantity-tactic.
3. Very hard to kill.
Also, I came to this conclusion that Semi-Automatic (short bursts) is much more useful than Full-Automatic. I mean that TSF squads often find themself surrounded and cut off from the supply. The BETA would also need much more precisive shots to be taken down, which could be easier archived with Semi-Automatic. And not to mention the posibility of overheat.

Just watching "World War Z" and I realized there are a lot of similar of BETA to Zombie. Most noticable are:
1. They are all recycled human corpses.
2. Quantity-tactic.
3. Very hard to kill.
Also, I came to this conclusion that Semi-Automatic (short bursts) is much more useful than Full-Automatic. I mean that TSF squads often find themself surrounded and cut off from the supply. The BETA would also need much more precisive shots to be taken down, which could be easier archived with Semi-Automatic. And not to mention the posibility of overheat.

This is (mostly) not accurate, both from the viewpoint of mainstay Alternative VNs, and the expanded material. Please read them more carefully.

...But who am I kidding, I will answer each point separately, just in case.

1.) I will keep saying this until people are sick of it - BETA are not zombies in the Hollywood sense. They. ARE. NOT. Please go back and redo your science classes.

The important part is to remember that BETA are machines, they are not life in the common sense of the word. Of course, that's a bit hypocrtical, because as high-level biology will tell you, we are machines, and pretty damn perfect - the difference is that we are self-aware, and made of "fleshy" bits. In fact, advanced computer technology that we have created was specifically based upon our nervous system and brain, it's just that we used silicon and metals in their construction, not flesh.

Now, BETA are machines - they refer to themselves as machines in the first place. The difference is that they have been made using flesh and biology. Now, the Creators posses incredibly advanced technology - including the (implied) existence of tech that allows matter conversion. In short, with enough energy, it is possible to break down any source of matter into its basic particles. In case of BETA, the materials they collect - natural resources (coal, oil, gems etc.), trees, human corpses etc., are all taken and broken down into carbon mass. With this kind of carbon "sludge", the BETA can do pretty much anything with it. They can use it to build a nuclear submarine, or create more BETA. BETA are not explicitly made out of people - but we are numerous, and if given a chance, a BETA worker will haul our corpse back to Hive to be dissolved. An average BETA trooper would most likely be made out of composition of wood, rocks and several people - except that they would all be first broken down into carbon, and the remade into the whatever material BETA are made from.

It's high level theoretical physics, but it has been worked on, irl.

By contrast, zombies explicitly multiply by infecting other people. You can't make a zombie out of a plant. You can make a laser-class BETA out of a forest though.

2)It's hard to speak of tactics when zombies lack anything besides their most basic instinct to murder all life.

While individual BETA are not explicitly "smart" by human standards, on strategical level, they're actually quite capable. They managed to outmaneuver and outgun two world empires; destroyed almost entire industrial capacity of planet Earth, and systematically destroyed almost every human city across Eurasia.

Keep also in mind, that BETA Superior is capable of actually outthinking humans, as Battle for Yokohama shows, where UN troops are almost completely owned by BETA tactics.

Thinking that BETA are dumb animals is exactly what Superior wants you to do, and mankind has been pretty much dancing in the palm of its tentacles.

Additionally, it's important to note that humans have trouble anticipating BETA strategies; and it most likely works both ways. It's possible that BETA are expert strategists...but their strategies might not work against something as incomprehensible to them as human mind. (Note that when BETA inadvertently learn in M-L: A how humans think, the human forces pretty much start get massacred).

3)BETAs are harder to kill - most zombies are killed by headshots, leaving the question of how good of a shot you are (most soldiers are trained to actually aim at the corpus, because accurately aiming automatic rifles is not easy, especially at a relatively small target like head).

BETA do not accurately reassemble humans, and thus can sustain injuries in an area that would otherwise kill humans. For example, Grappler-class "head" is in fact only a sensor module; blowing it up won't instantly kill Grappler like it would kill zombies.

4.)Because of the above, precise fire with BETA is not exactly worth much. Especially since most BETA strains are quite big anyway, you don't have to be accurate to damage them anyway, or because their toughness would mean that you wouldn't do more damage then by just punching them full of holes.

Semi-automatic fire may be good for dedicated sniper units (which are rare), but they are useless in frontal combat, when you need the maximum volume of fire to stop the BETA. Taking a few potshots at them won't be enough- you need a literal wall of fire to even slow them down - which is why almost every TSF weapon is some sort of automatic firearm.

Additionally, barrels can be replaced. US machine gunners did it all the way back during WW2 when dealing with massed Japanese assaults. Barrels too hot to fire? Change it. Sure, it's a lapse in fire, but so is changing of a magazine.

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Let the world fear us all.
It's just means to an end.
Our salvation lies in the Father's sins.

This is (mostly) not accurate, both from the viewpoint of mainstay Alternative VNs, and the expanded material. Please read them more carefully.

...But who am I kidding, I will answer each point separately, just in case.

1.) I will keep saying this until people are sick of it - BETA are not zombies in the Hollywood sense. They. ARE. NOT. Please go back and redo your science classes.

The important part is to remember that BETA are machines, they are not life in the common sense of the word. Of course, that's a bit hypocrtical, because as high-level biology will tell you, we are machines, and pretty damn perfect - the difference is that we are self-aware, and made of "fleshy" bits. In fact, advanced computer technology that we have created was specifically based upon our nervous system and brain, it's just that we used silicon and metals in their construction, not flesh.

Now, BETA are machines - they refer to themselves as machines in the first place. The difference is that they have been made using flesh and biology. Now, the Creators posses incredibly advanced technology - including the (implied) existence of tech that allows matter conversion. In short, with enough energy, it is possible to break down any source of matter into its basic particles. In case of BETA, the materials they collect - natural resources (coal, oil, gems etc.), trees, human corpses etc., are all taken and broken down into carbon mass. With this kind of carbon "sludge", the BETA can do pretty much anything with it. They can use it to build a nuclear submarine, or create more BETA. BETA are not explicitly made out of people - but we are numerous, and if given a chance, a BETA worker will haul our corpse back to Hive to be dissolved. An average BETA trooper would most likely be made out of composition of wood, rocks and several people - except that they would all be first broken down into carbon, and the remade into the whatever material BETA are made from.

It's high level theoretical physics, but it has been worked on, irl.

By contrast, zombies explicitly multiply by infecting other people. You can't make a zombie out of a plant. You can make a laser-class BETA out of a forest though.

2)It's hard to speak of tactics when zombies lack anything besides their most basic instinct to murder all life.

While individual BETA are not explicitly "smart" by human standards, on strategical level, they're actually quite capable. They managed to outmaneuver and outgun two world empires; destroyed almost entire industrial capacity of planet Earth, and systematically destroyed almost every human city across Eurasia.

Keep also in mind, that BETA Superior is capable of actually outthinking humans, as Battle for Yokohama shows, where UN troops are almost completely owned by BETA tactics.

Thinking that BETA are dumb animals is exactly what Superior wants you to do, and mankind has been pretty much dancing in the palm of its tentacles.

Additionally, it's important to note that humans have trouble anticipating BETA strategies; and it most likely works both ways. It's possible that BETA are expert strategists...but their strategies might not work against something as incomprehensible to them as human mind. (Note that when BETA inadvertently learn in M-L: A how humans think, the human forces pretty much start get massacred).

3)BETAs are harder to kill - most zombies are killed by headshots, leaving the question of how good of a shot you are (most soldiers are trained to actually aim at the corpus, because accurately aiming automatic rifles is not easy, especially at a relatively small target like head).

BETA do not accurately reassemble humans, and thus can sustain injuries in an area that would otherwise kill humans. For example, Grappler-class "head" is in fact only a sensor module; blowing it up won't instantly kill Grappler like it would kill zombies.

4.)Because of the above, precise fire with BETA is not exactly worth much. Especially since most BETA strains are quite big anyway, you don't have to be accurate to damage them anyway, or because their toughness would mean that you wouldn't do more damage then by just punching them full of holes.

Semi-automatic fire may be good for dedicated sniper units (which are rare), but they are useless in frontal combat, when you need the maximum volume of fire to stop the BETA. Taking a few potshots at them won't be enough- you need a literal wall of fire to even slow them down - which is why almost every TSF weapon is some sort of automatic firearm.

Additionally, barrels can be replaced. US machine gunners did it all the way back during WW2 when dealing with massed Japanese assaults. Barrels too hot to fire? Change it. Sure, it's a lapse in fire, but so is changing of a magazine.

Well, "Quantity Tactic" doesn't necessary mean the BETA are stupid! It could be even a praise! - I mean one mind controlling and dominating the battlefield, with Petabytes of Data running through it? That is no less of a miracle!

Also, I just mean that BETA and Zombie don't feel pain like human. Even shredded to piece, they will just keep marching!

And the "Semi-Automatic" thing, well, don't you remember BETA is very hard to hit? And never liking the idea of wasting ammunition for that!

Fair enough, they don't feel pain. Or at least, the pain as we define it.

BETAs are not hard to hit, at least, as long as you have a halfway decent fire-control system. In fact, quite the opposite, individual BETAs are hopelessly outclassed in mid-ranged combat (laserhax notwithstanding). They are mostly slow and unmanuverable, while those that are fast (Tank-class), are still easy to kill if you manage to keep them at range. Their very numbers work also against them - a single BETA wave will have so many creatures in it, that even if you miss, you'll hit something else anyway.

Also, ammunition is less of a concern for a TSF (Which is a standard for almost every military sci-fi ever); an average TSF is supposed to carry a dozen or so of magazines, each which has 2000 36mm caseless rounds. And several 6-shot 120mm magazines.

The problem is that this ammo will run out anyway at some point. Burst/Semi-automatic fire will only delay the inevitable, or may even hasten it, as the BETA will overrun the troops that are not firing enough bullets.

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Let the world fear us all.
It's just means to an end.
Our salvation lies in the Father's sins.

How the fuck does one not know this? I thought it was well established..

Imo, the biggest plot hole in Muv-luv is the economy.
I know it's the end of the world and everyone is geared for war...But think about it.

TSF's are much more complex and eat equal or even more fuel then a normal jet. We can expect a TSF to cost at least 100 million dollars.
Now, how the fuck are they spamming so many TSF's? Theirs the whole 7 minute thing, which means shitloads of recruits in TSF's die. That's billions of fucking dollars!!!

Now, the BETA can easily destroy a 100 million dollar+ TSF in 1 swoop. I don't see how producing TSF's could ever be economically feasible. It's not only logistically impossible to economically support, but if you factor in the fuel, and how fast the TSF's uses it, that even adds more cost.

This is addition to the multiple goverment projects such as Alternative 1, 2, 3 etc, or XG-70, Prominence, etc. How the fuck are they funding all this? Even if they sold war bonds to every single person on earth they wouldn't have enough money.

How the fuck does one not know this? I thought it was well established..

Imo, the biggest plot hole in Muv-luv is the economy.
I know it's the end of the world and everyone is geared for war...But think about it.

TSF's are much more complex and eat equal or even more fuel then a normal jet. We can expect a TSF to cost at least 100 million dollars.
Now, how the fuck are they spamming so many TSF's? Theirs the whole 7 minute thing, which means shitloads of recruits in TSF's die. That's billions of fucking dollars!!!

Now, the BETA can easily destroy a 100 million dollar+ TSF in 1 swoop. I don't see how producing TSF's could ever be economically feasible. It's not only logistically impossible to economically support, but if you factor in the fuel, and how fast the TSF's uses it, that even adds more cost.

This is addition to the multiple goverment projects such as Alternative 1, 2, 3 etc, or XG-70, Prominence, etc. How the fuck are they funding all this? Even if they sold war bonds to every single person on earth they wouldn't have enough money.

Ah, it's one of the most illogical thing in Real Robot, and I expect it wouldn't be answered in a foreseeable future! Even something as small as Knightmare Frame still need many resources to produce.

Ah, it's one of the most illogical thing in Real Robot, and I expect it wouldn't be answered in a foreseeable future! Even something as small as Knightmare Frame still need many resources to produce.

Yes. Just look at how big a truck or plane has to be just to move around TSF parts of a whole fucking TSF. I bet they eat gas like bitch!

Thinking about it..fuel is the main issue of Muv-luv. Not food.

China, Russia, and the Middle East are all overrun with BETA.
How are we supplying our TSF's with adequate fuel, simply from North America and Africa? We should run by the year 2000 in Muv-luv, realistically speaking