“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

Wednesday, May 15, 2013

Israeli Defense Forces have ushered in a new era of fighting dirty. Experimenting with scent-based crowd control since 2004, David Ben Harosh, head of technological development for the Israeli police, has refined a concoction of noxious rot and sewage which can be fired from a water cannon.

At the end of this first video pay attention to the smug little bastard from the IDF talk about the ingredients, “household ingredients as well”. He is very pleased with himself and his participation in the humiliation and degradation of Palestinian people. Such tactics would not be tolerated in the US or any other civilized European country.

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"Skunk" is a malodorant, non-lethal weapon used for crowd control by the Israeli Defense Forces. Deriving its name from the animal of the same name, "Skunk" is dispersed as a form of mist, fired from a water cannon, which leaves a terrible odor of rot or sewage on whatever it touches. It does not wash off easily and is said to linger on clothes for up to five years.[1] First attempts at developing a scent-based form of crowd control began in Israel in 2004; Skunk was first used for crowd control in September 2008.

According to David Ben Harosh, head of technological development for the Israeli police, the recipe is based entirely on natural organic ingredients, including yeast and baking powder, does not include any harmful materials, and may even be ingested without causing harm. The inventors plan to market Skunk to other forces worldwide. The development of Skunk followed numerous accusations against Israeli forces that they often employ disproportionate force in clashes with Palestinian protestors (e.g. using rubber bullets or tear gas), which has led them to seek new, non-lethal but effective methods of crowd control.wiki

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http://www.skunk-skunk.com/

Advertised as "eco-friendly" by the developer.

........>>>>Until now, forces used rubber bullets, tear gas and shock grenades in order to disperse crowds who burned tires and threw stones at soldiers.<<<<

New Israeli Stink Bomb Provides Safe Way to Disperse Protesters

By Matthew Harwood

10/09/2008 - Israeli defense scientists have designed a crowd control device that can effectively disperse protesters or rioters without causing any bodily harm. It's known as the Skunk.

In early August, the foul-smelling concoction was used by Israeli Border Guards to quell a demonstration protesting the construction of a separation fence in the West Bank village of Naalin. The Skunk had its intended effect, according to The Jerusalem Post. Once the stench enveloped the protesters, they fled the scene for a shower.

One journalist, Wyre Davies, of the BBC, described Skunk like this:

Imagine the worst, most foul thing you have ever smelled. An overpowering mix of rotting meat, old socks that haven't been washed for weeks - topped off with the pungent waft of an open sewer.

Imagine being covered in the stuff as it is liberally sprayed from a water cannon.

Then imagine not being able to get rid of the stench for at least three days, no matter how often you try to scrub yourself clean.

The beauty of Skunk - if beauty is the right word - is that it is said to be completely organic.

According to the BBC, Skunk does not contain illegal chemicals or proscribed substances—just yeast, baking powder, and other "secret" ingredients.

Superintendent David Ben Harosh told Davies that the putrid brew was safe enough to drink. Davies declined the offer.

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Should be used on Occupy Wall Street protesters. Give them a taste of their own breath.

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So, the Israelis are condemned for using a harmless means of crowd control.

"Moderate" "Palestinian" official: "I swear that if we had a nuke, we'd have used it this very morning"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/palestinian-official-i-swear-that-if-we-had-a-nuke-wed-have-used-it-this-very-morning.htmlNote that these are "moderate" PA officials -- members of Abbas's government -- the one that Obama tells the Israelis is a true partner for peace. "Senior PA official praises murderer and another official swears: 'If we had a nuke, we'd have used it this very morning,'" by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik for Palestinian Media Watch, May 8:

>>Two senior Palestinian Authority officials praised the use of violence against Israel last week. Senior PA official Sultan Abu Al-Einein expressed his open support for the murderer who killed Evyatar Borovsky, an Israeli who was stabbed to death by Palestinian terrorist Salam Al-Zaghal while he was waiting for a ride.

Abu Al-Einein, who was until recently an advisor holding the rank of minister to PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and who was subsequently appointed Head of the Palestinian Council for NGO Affairs by Abbas, honored the murderer:

"We salute the heroic fighter, the self-sacrificing Salam Al-Zaghal."

Abu Al-Einein also praised the murderer and his killing with the words:

"He insisted on defending his honor, so he went against the settler and killed him. Blessings to the breast that nursed Salam Al-Zaghal."

The audience applauded and whistled at this statement.

Last week, Palestinian Media Watch reported that only hours after the murder, the administrator of Fatah's official Facebook page glorified Al-Zaghal as a "hero."

Another senior PA official, Jibril Rajoub, also praised the use of violence against Israel. During an interview on a Lebanese TV channel, the host referred to "the negotiations game" with Israel, and Rajoub expressed the view that negotiations are held because the Palestinians lack military strength:

"I swear that if we had a nuke, we'd have used it this very morning."

Jibril Rajoub is the Deputy Secretary of the Fatah Central Committee and Chairman of the PA Olympic Committee. The interview was broadcast on the Lebanese Al-Mayadeen TV channel and also published on Rajoub's Facebook page on May 2, 2013.

Senior PA officials often state that avoiding violent confrontation or war with Israel is only temporarily, due to the PA's inability to take on such a conflict. They claim that negotiations with Israel are the right course of action for now, because conditions are not right for violence.<<

IDF boys and girls should be required not to wear face shields.What chance do innocent Palis have to inflict injuries w/rocks if this is not the case.

Like those white folk beat to shit by the black folk:The guy suffered a blown-out eye socket as well as a broken nose, conconcussion, etc.Wife and daughter also beat to shit. ...wife unconcious forget about the daughter.

When police were questioned about why all three defendants were not charged with felony second degree battery, Stubbs responded, "Because you have to have disfigurement for a second-degree battery charge, and only one victim had disfigurement and he was attacked by the one suspect that we booked."

However, Louisiana law defines second-degree battery as "bodily injury which involves unconsciousness, extreme physical pain or protracted and obvious disfigurement."

The victim suffered "a broken eye socket, broken nose, and several lacerations to the face," and his wife was knocked unconscious.

"I feel that's racist," said Henderson.

As to why officers only charged one suspect with second-degree battery, police said under former Police Chief Dewayne White, officers were told to take all offenders to prison. Towards the end of his term, the policy changed and officers were told to use discretion. That's the policy in place now.

As to whether this falls under a hate crime, police said early reports show it does not meet the statute but remains under investigation.

All three defendants, Dickerson, Bessye and Simmons, have had run-ins with the law prior to Sunday's incident.

"Check out the latest critism of Barack Obama's Selma, Al. speech yesterday where he credited the 1965 marchers with empowering his black father and white mother to marry.

Turns out he was born in 1961.

....he credited the "Bloody Sunday" civil rights marchers of 1965 with the fact that his parents -- a black African father and white Kansas mother -- were empowered to fall in love and got married.

"They looked at each other and they decided, 'We know that in the world, as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child, but something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Ala.!"

Obama was born in 1961; the Selma march was four years later. Obama said later that he meant to credit the entire civil rights movement with his parents' union, not just the Bloody Sunday marchers."

JERUSALEM, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Israel's Iron Dome interceptions of Palestinian rockets during eight days of Gaza fighting cost $25 million to $30 million, the government said on Thursday, arguing the U.S.-backed system was well worth the money.

"Were Iron Dome traded on the (Tel Aviv) stock exchange or Nasdaq, it would have multiplied its share value several times over," Civil Defence Minister Avi Dichter told Israel Radio in an interview where he outlined the system's outlay.

Using radar-guided interceptor missiles, Israel's five truck-towed Iron Dome batteries shot down 421 of some 1,500 rockets launched from the Gaza Strip between Nov. 14 and Wednesday's Egyptian-brokered truce, the military said.

It put Iron Dome's success rate at 90 percent. To lower costs, the system engages only rockets that threaten populated areas, though it often fires two interceptor missiles at once.

Blackmun’s reasoning may have turned on the fact that automatic dialing was a relatively new development in 1979. Previously, telephone users had to tell a human operator which number they wished to reach, making it plausible to regard the phone company as an active participant in the phone-dialing process, but a mere passive conduit in transmitting the phone call itself.

Technological progress has rendered this distinction increasingly dubious. For example, cell phone companies now keep records about the locations of their customers’ phones. The government has argued that this “non-content” information should be available without a warrant. Yet such records amount to a detailed record of everywhere the phone’s owner has been in the past month; a much more intrusive form of surveillance than a list of the phone numbers a customer has dialed.

The third party doctrine also suggests that the users of cloud e-mail providers don’t even enjoy Fourth Amendment protections in the contents of their messages, since those have been voluntarily shared with third parties such as Google and Microsoft. One appeals court has ruled that a warrant is required, but so far most other courts have not followed that precedent.

Journalists get a bit of a special deal here. The government has established special policies to guard against inappropriate surveillance of reporters. Before an FBI agent can seek a journalist’s call records, they must get special approval from the attorney general. But that’s merely a Justice Department policy, not a constitutional requirement. The policy could be changed in the future, and the lack of independent oversight makes abuses more likely.

The rest of the country doesn’t get even the modest procedural protection the government affords to journalists. The FBI likely didn’t need a warrant to obtain e-mail records that led to the identification of Paula Broadwell as the mistress of Gen. David Petraeus last year. Police officers have become increasingly aggressive in seeking records about the locations of suspects’ cell phones.

Merely adding more safeguards for journalists’ call records won’t fix the underlying problem. As more and more information about us is held by third parties, the court’s cramped interpretation of the Fourth Amendment leaves ordinary Americans with less and less privacy. People may or may not have expected the numbers they dialed to be private in 1979. But they certainly consider the contents of their Gmail accounts and the locations of the cell phones to be private information today.

Much better to be sprayed w/that horror weapon than the contents of a Mexican Space Shuttle.

A portable enclosed toilet often found at construction sites.

I wouldn't be cought dead using a mexican space shuttle.

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smurf balls

This term reflects the compound act of two poor decisions. 1) Using a Port-a-John (Job Johnny, Johnny on the Spot, et al.) 2) Grinding out a depth charge into the murky abyss. For when you choose to do both you are likely to emerge from the compact bowel booth with a set of smurf balls, as your testicles are splashed with a coating of azure hued ass water.

Dubbs insisted on using the Job Johnny and he was rewarded with a pair of smurf balls for his stupidity.

The Internal Revenue Service asked tea party groups to see donor rolls.

It asked for printouts of Facebook posts.

Acting IRS Commissioner dodges questions

Latest on POLITICORove: IRS did what Dems wanted

Angst over net surveillance on Hill

And it asked what books people were reading.

A POLITICO review of documents from 11 tea party and conservative groups that the IRS scrutinized in 2012 shows the agency wanted to know everything — in some cases, it even seemed curious what members were thinking. The review included interviews with groups or their representatives from Hawaii, New Mexico, Ohio, Texas and elsewhere.

The long-awaited report Treasury Department inspector general report released Tuesday says the agency itself decided some of its questions to conservative groups were way over the line – especially the one about donors.

While it is true that the IRS seems to have crossed the Rubicon, the problem is structural, more than it is political.

Why have the IRS empowered to "look" at political groups?

“What has been missed in the outrage is the recognition that this problem arose from much deeper sources than the poor judgment or possible partisan bias of a handful of IRS employees,” says Lloyd Mayer, a law professor at the University of Notre Dame, in an e-mail. “Congress has given the IRS the difficult task of applying an incredibly vague definition of political activity and an uncertain standard for how much political activity tax-exempt social welfare organizations may engage in.”

Social-welfare organizations should not be allowed to engage in politics. But the SCOTUS disagrees.

The only other option, for Congress, to remove tax exempt status from social welfare organizations.

(Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said on Tuesday he had ordered the FBI to open a criminal probe in a growing scandal over the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative political groups for extra tax scrutiny.

Holder's announcement came about four hours before an inspector general's report on the IRS portrayed the tax agency as plagued by disarray and "insufficient oversight" during its struggles to review the cases of hundreds of advocacy groups that claimed they should be tax exempt.

The audit, which drew some backlash from IRS officials, also underscored what the agency had acknowledged last Friday: that the IRS had used "inappropriate criteria" for evaluating tax-exempt groups, in part by singling out scores of conservative Tea Party and "Patriot" organizations for increased scrutiny.

The report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration sharply criticized the way the IRS had screened the conservative groups, citing poor management and processing delays. The report suggested that such practices could damage public confidence in the agency.

The criteria used to target the conservative groups "gives the appearance that the IRS is not impartial in conducting its mission,"

Advocacy groups, given the SCOTUS ruling, should no longer be tax exempt.

... of hundreds of advocacy groups that claimed they should be tax exempt.

Not a one of them.Advocacy groups are people, too.They should be taxed, accordingly, at the same rates that individual unmarried people are taxed.FICA, MediCare and Income tax rates, combined.

Bunk wants to tax food kitchens, church retreat lands, parish bake sales, free pastoral counseling, bed and breakfast for the homeless, free clothing for cold created by social circles, and probably his own mother's knitting needles and the products given to the poor therefrom.

>>>>That this digital document is a forgery has been proved beyond question. Various experts have proved its fakery on different levels:

• Photoshop author and instructor Mara Zebest (along with other researchers) has shown how this digital fake was constructed in Photoshop from digital snippets of images. (My favorite: Photoshop reveals that the Alvin T. Onaka rubber-stamp image was scaled 24% and rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise before being added to the fake.)

• Typographer Paul Irey has demonstrated that typefaces from at least three different typewriters were used in constructing this fraud.

• The only official government investigation of this fake, by Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigators, concluded that the digital Obama "birth certificate" is definitely a forgery (along with Obama's draft card).

• I have shown how the supposedly typed letters in the forgery fail to line up vertically, as they must in a genuine typed document, and how the mother's signature, "Stanley Ann Dunham Obama," was composed of three different handwritten images, each made with a different pen. (To see my research, look for "Nick Chase" in the archives by author on the American Thinker website, and the articles will pop up.)

So the conclusions of the experts are definitive: it's a forgery. If you have not yet recognized this truth, then you are waiting for acceptance -- for a lot of people to agree with you -- so you won't be attacked as a raving lunatic should you dare to bring up the subject.<<<<

The only bullying I see here is yours. The only person that I know that has continually promoted mass murder is you. The most mentally unstable past comments have been your rants to attack Mecca with nuclear weapons. You continually salt the comment section with your charges as to who is anti-semitic. I know why you do it.

ExamplesMade by Northrop Grumman:On March 18, 2009 Northrop Grumman announced that its engineers in Redondo Beach had successfully built and tested an electric laser capable of producing a 100-kilowatt ray of light, powerful enough to destroy cruise missiles, artillery, rockets and mortar rounds.[12] An electric laser is theoretically capable, according to Brian Strickland, manager for the United States Army's Joint High Power Solid State Laser program, of being mounted in an aircraft, ship, or vehicle because it requires much less space for its supporting equipment than a chemical laser.[13]On April 6, 2011, the U.S. Navy successfully tested a laser gun, manufactured by Northrop Grumman, that was mounted on the former USS Paul Foster, which is currently used as the navy's test ship. When engaged during the test that occurred off the coast of Central California in the Pacific Ocean test range, the laser gun was documented as having "a destructive effect on a high-speed cruising target," said Chief of Naval Research Admiral Nevin Carr.[14] While classified, the range of the laser gun is attributed to miles, not yards.Northrop Grumman has announced the availability of a high-energy solid-state laser weapon system that they call FIRESTRIKE, introduced on 13 November 2008. The system is modular, using 15 kW modules that can be combined to provide various levels of power.On 19 July 2010 an anti-aircraft laser described as the Laser Close-In Weapon System was unveiled at the Farnborough Airshow.[15]The Zeus laser weapon is the first laser and the first energy weapon of any type to be used on a battlefield. It is used for neutralizing mines and unexploded ordnance.Laser Area Defense System.The Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser (MIRACL) is an experimental U.S. Navy deuterium fluoride laser and was tested against an Air Force satellite in 1997.In 2011, the U.S. Navy began to test the Maritime Laser Demonstrator (MLD), a laser for use aboard its warships.[16][17]In 2013 the U.S. began field testing a directed energy weapon it calls the Laser Weapon System.[18]Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response, or PHaSR, is a non-lethal hand-held weapon developed by the United States Air Force [19] Its purpose is to "dazzle" or stun a target. It was developed by Air Force's Directed Energy Directorate.Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) is a weaponized deuterium fluoride laser developed in a joint research project by Israel and the U.S. It is designed to shoot down aircraft and missiles. See also National missile defense.The U.S. Air Force's Airborne Laser, or Advanced Tactical Laser, is a plan to mount a CO2 gas laser or COIL chemical laser on a modified Boeing 747 to shoot down missiles.[20][21]Portable Efficient Laser Testbed (PELT)[22]Laser AirCraft CounterMeasures (ACCM)Boeing’s Airborne Laser, a chemical laser which has been mounted in a 747 jet, is reported to be able to destroy incoming missiles by heating and warping the thin pressurized skins typical of such missiles.[23]

DeuceWed May 15, 09:47:00 AM EDTThe only bullying I see here is yours. The only person that I know that has continually promoted mass murder is you. The most mentally unstable past comments have been your rants to attack Mecca with nuclear weapons. You continually salt the comment section with your charges as to who is anti-semitic. I know why you do it.

The nazis did destroy synagogues and Jewish places of worship, did they not?:

What is "Occupation"Sun Aug 28, 10:10:00 AM EDTquirk:

The only way we could have helped them out more was by dropping one of WiO's nukes.-----

Please do not misrepresent my advocation of selection targeting of nuking the black rock of mecca.

I do not advocate the "nuking" of islamic populations at this time. The USA has actually done that very thing to Japanese (something I did support after the fact).

The USSR and the USA very strategy was based on using nukes on civilian populations.

So do not "label" me with your comments about nukes trying to make what I say pejorative.

I advocate the military of some unnamed nation, taking out the Ka'aba with some sort of permanence. Use of a precison nuke, a high energy laser from space or kidnapping the rock and sending it into the sun all have merit.

The reason for such a wanton lust for destruction?

I advocate the only cure for the islamic mind is forced evolution.

By destroying one of the 5 pillars of Islam it will force them to re-think that "islam and it's ways" are undefeatable. And that "reformation" must occur..

The elimination of one of the 5 pillars is such an act.

Now before you get your panties in a wad and query? How would like that to happen to you?I'd point you to the destruction of the Temple, 2 times...

Have you ever heard of the "temple"?

the real ONE...

not the fake copies that adorn the landscapes of the planet.. (sorry greek orthodox)

I advocate the military of some unnamed nation, taking out the Ka'aba with some sort of permanence. Use of a precison nuke, a high energy laser from space or kidnapping the rock and sending it into the sun all have merit.

It is understandable that such sentiments could reflect nazi-like thinking. I especially found this comment telling:

I do not advocate the “nuking” of islamic populations at this time. …….

These are all your sentiments and ideas. They are a window to your mind and your dark heart. They tell about what you are. You go on.

I advocate the military of some unnamed nation, taking out the Ka'aba with some sort of permanence. Use of a precison nuke, a high energy laser from space or kidnapping the rock and sending it into the sun all have merit.

The reason for such a wanton lust for destruction?

I advocate the only cure for the islamic mind is forced evolution.

By destroying one of the 5 pillars of Islam it will force them to re-think that "islam and it's ways" are undefeatable. And that “reformation” must occur..

Your sentiments differ little from the inquisition and forced conversion. You will reform them with nuclear fire instead of burning at the stake. New technology. Scream to the rafters about imagined anti-semites but look into the mirror if you can stand it.

Your sentiments differ little from the inquisition and forced conversion. You will reform them with nuclear fire instead of burning at the stake. New technology. Scream to the rafters about imagined anti-semites but look into the mirror if you can stand it.

You pathetic emotional vacuous runt.

you say: You will reform them with nuclear fire instead of burning at the stake.

How I advocate the killing of a rock, you claim I advocate mass murder, you are WRONG

Destroying a rock by nuke or laser is the same as the "inquisition and forced conversion"? You are getting dumber by the day

I think the IDF should consider an extract of bacon grease to use. It wouldn't cause such a *stink* with the supporters of the Pawns of Palestine.And it has the added benefit of pissing off the muslims.

WiO says some things some would argue should be taken down, some inaccurate and some libelous some that offend me more for being, well, let's be nice, felony 'silly'.

And, it's Deuce's blog so he can do as he will.

However, one thing pops out this morning.

I don't know what WiO said that was taken down.

I do know what was left up. Rat throws his shit around daily, calling people Nazi, talking of past quotes, offering no evidence, offering no posts, offering no context, offering mainly bullshit, yet he is not taken down.

And, WiO, in case you missed the 'insult' (not libel) to you in my statement regarding rat droppings due to it's lack of bluntless, let me go further.

You're suggestion regarding nuking the rock is to say the least bizarre. If you had any understanding of history, you would know that it wouldn't accomplish the goal you set for it, in fact, it would likely exaccerbate the problem. If you had any humanity, you would realize it would accomplish nothing while resulting in the loss of life.

Above, trying to be nice, I used the euphemism felony 'silly'; however, in the case of the rock, your idea is felony stupid, divorced from all measures of reality, in a word, nutz.

While, since Reagan the United States has been dismantling its' nuclear weapon stockpile, not adding to it.

Another piece of Goebbels like misinformation being propagated and then spread by the quot.

It is not building thousands, it has dismantled thousands.

As of September 2009 it possessed 5,113 warheads operationally deployed, in active reserve, or held in inactive storage. This figure compares to a peak of 31,225 total warheads in 1967 and 22,217 in 1989, and does not include "several thousand" warheads that have been retired and scheduled for dismantlement

Again, quot tells the world the US is building nuclear weapons, when the reality is that the US is dismantling nuclear weapons.

Lie, deceit and misinformation, quot's stock and trade.

The lasing of the Mecca was a later development to the plot line, an option added to his attack planning after the primary nuclear option was vilified as both evil and mass murder.

As of early 2013, the United States has continued to reduce its nuclear stockpile, and retirement alone has accounted for a dip of over 250 warheads since last year. Of the total stockpile of approximately 4,650 warheads, an estimated 2,150 warheads are deployed. http://bos.sagepub.com/content/69/2/77

desert ratWed May 15, 12:57:00 PM EDTWhile, since Reagan the United States has been dismantling its' nuclear weapon stockpile, not adding to it.Another piece of Goebbels like misinformation being propagated and then spread by the quot.It is not building thousands, it has dismantled thousands.

Again, quot tells the world the US is building nuclear weapons, when the reality is that the US is dismantling nuclear weapons.More data points indicating that quot has lied to US, again.Those Israeli ....Makin' shit up as they go along.

Now here is what i SAID:

I still say nuking of islamic populations AT THIS TIME is not a solution. AMerican and many nations have nukes to destroy populations but choose NOT AT THIS TIME to use them.

If I reflect nazi-like thinking then America does too, for BUILDING thousands of nukes.

Notice I said "If I reflect nazi-like thinking then America does too, for BUILDING thousands of nukes", notice that has nothing to do with my point.

Just a twist of a word and out of context, a lie by any other words....

The point was and is, America has built and maintains, thousands of nukes and has USED nukes and if I advocated the using of said nuke was nazi like, then America, living up to the same standard and those thrust onto me are as guilty of Nazi-like mentality.

I doubt i I'd kill you, either.You'd have to come find me.You'll never do it.

I know the "O"riginal story. Saw the video of Mrs "O"riginal posted on the Candy store's web site. A hansom woman in the way Bathsheba was described by the Naked Archeologist, "thick necked".Th boys, seated outside the store, all dressed in their Storm Trooper Jr blue shirts.

Did not want you dead then, don't want you dead now.

It is more fun to watch you patterned responses.

Your ESL writing skills and slippery grasp of English is humorous, as well.

Or quot's become a tad under the weather, a victim of Dissociative Identity Disorder, and making it even worse, writing styles indicate that at least one of the personalities suffers from schizophrenia.

Ahem, I would myself advocate nuking the rock, if I thought it would work, for the children of the whole world. I am with WiO there.

I am for freedom of religion, but not for freedom to oppress, which is what Islam is, a demand for a freedom to oppress.

However, I am not convinced it would work, so I am with Quirk there. Might really piss them off, make things worse.

I believe WiO has not advocated mass killings here. He has not advocated nuking Riyad, Saudi Arabia forinstance. He is advocating nuking an inanimate object, a rock, the idea being that the destruction of a main symbol would collapse the 'religion'.

If it would actually do that it seems to me it would be a small price to pay.

Here is a good article about the debate over what to do about Sryia going on among Israelis. They are not - are they ever? - of one opinion.

The Lesser of Syria’s Evils

Top Israeli military and intelligence analysts are divided over which side to back in Syria’s civil war

By Jonathan Spyer|May 14, 2013 12:00 AM

>>>The civil war in Syria has led to a keen debate among the professional echelon tasked with advising policymakers in Israel. This debate has been reflected in a more subdued public conversation and occasionally in spectacular events—like the bombing of Syrian military sites around Damascus. So, what are the dividing lines in this Israeli debate? Does Israel back any side in the war in Syria? And what would be an optimal outcome from the Israeli point of view?.......

.....With the civil war showing no signs of ending any time soon, and the country separating into separate and hostile enclaves, it appears that a quiet strategy of ensuring a strong presence of non-Salafi, Western-supported fighters in the area of the Jordanian and Israeli borders is under way. It is likely that the low-level communication and the treatment of wounded Syrian rebels by Israel is part of this. There are currently no signs of Israel being drawn further into a more overt implementation of this strategy, and it is likely that neither Israel nor the rebels in question would want this.

Ultimately, Israeli policy on Syria derives from the familiar combination of limited political/diplomatic possibilities and military superiority. The deep-rooted rejection of the legitimacy of Israel’s existence is common to both sides of the Syrian civil war and is ubiquitous in the Arabic-speaking world and among the Iranian leadership. This rejection shapes and limits Israel’s options as an actor on the regional stage. Even with the leading Sunni states opposed to Iran, interaction and cooperation are necessarily covert and limited—and the growth of Sunni political Islam as a result of the “Arab spring” has only exacerbated this reality.

In such circumstances, Israeli options are reduced to the basic need to ensure the security of its citizens and deter enemies. It appears that Moshe Dayan’s famous dictum that “Israel has no foreign policy, only a defense policy” continues to hold, at least in Israel’s immediate neighborhood.<<<

There doesn't seem to be a hint anywhere is this article about any plot of the perfidious Jews mounting attacks in Syria so as to draw the United States into another mid-east war on their behalf, as some here have alleged.

Holder: I can’t remember when I recused myself from the AP investigation, and I know I didn’t do it in writing

posted at 2:41 pm on May 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sounds legit.

Twitter is blowing up over this right now. Stand by for updates.

Update: Gabe Malor asks an excellent question:

If there's no written record of recusal, who told DAG Cole that he was running the AP investigation?

Did Holder just sort of … “drift away” from this whole mess after his recusal? Remember, this was no ordinary investigation. Yesterday Holder himself called the leak in the AP case one of the most serious, if not the most serious, he’d ever seen. He must have recognized instantly that there was a chance that reporters’ phone records would be subpoenaed to get to the bottom of it, which would be politically explosive for the White House. And yet he never formally notified anyone that he was backing away, huh? At this point, Obama should fire him even if he’s telling the truth.

Update: Holder says he had to recuse himself because he was a “fact witness”:

The attorney general recused himself because he was interviewed as a “fact witness” — “a possessor of the information that was ultimately leaked” — meaning that he could theoretically have leaked the information about the thwarted terrorist attack that was the subject of the AP report.

If they were looking at Holder as a potential leaker, the leak must have come from very high up. That jibes with Holder’s rhetoric about the seriousness of the situation; they must be looking at someone at or near the cabinet level, potentially, as the AP’s source.

Wouldn’t the AG be a potential “fact witness” in lots of leak cases, though, given the sensitive info he’s privy to? Why recuse himself in this particular case?

Update: Dave Weigel points to this DOJ press release last summer in which Holder announced he was assigning attorneys to lead the leak investigation. That would have been the moment to announce his recusal, but there’s nothing in there about that.

Obvious question: Did he refuse to recuse himself publicly from an explosive national-security investigation because that would have made for particularly bad headlines five months before the election?

Magnificent Ronald and the Founding Fathers of al Qaeda

“These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.” — Ronald Reagan while introducing the Mujahideen leaders to media on the White house lawns (1985). During Reagan’s 8 years in power, the CIA secretly sent billions of dollars of military aid to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in a US-supported jihad against the Soviet Union. We repeated the insanity with ISIS against Syria.