They gots some angry, bitter, jealous fans over there at the queefsplanet! It's kind of pathetic when your only joy is hoping for a rival team to lose. I love it!

This place would have been livid had KC won.

KC coaching staff is dumb. 14 pt lead, you don't pound the rock and take it to the depleted DL with JC and Davis was just stupid. Expecting our WR's to catch the ball often enough to keep a lead when we haven't done it all year was asking too much.

Especially when you have Manning in a game where the weather was not a factor. Manning is going to get his yards against our safeties, who do not know how to help the CB's over the top.

Enjoy your win, you earned it. KC has plenty of things to work on and correct for a possible 3rd meeting. Did Denver learn enough on the things that they didn't connect on to have something else for KC or has KC seen enough to possibly correct in a cold Jan. game , of which revenge will be a motivational & driving force ?

Ask yourself that question, would you want KC a 3rd time in the cold or Indy /& or Cincy in Denver?

KC coaching staff is dumb. 14 pt lead, you don't pound the rock and take it to the depleted DL with JC and Davis was just stupid. Expecting our WR's to catch the ball often enough to keep a lead when we haven't done it all year was asking too much.

This is where I think you're wrong. Playing balls-out and throwing downfield, even with the fourteen points, was the only way they were going to win. You saw what happened in the second half, right?

KC coaching staff is dumb. 14 pt lead, you don't pound the rock and take it to the depleted DL with JC and Davis was just stupid. Expecting our WR's to catch the ball often enough to keep a lead when we haven't done it all year was asking too much.

Especially when you have Manning in a game where the weather was not a factor. Manning is going to get his yards against our safeties, who do not know how to help the CB's over the top.

Enjoy your win, you earned it. KC has plenty of things to work on and correct for a possible 3rd meeting. Did Denver learn enough on the things that they didn't connect on to have something else for KC or has KC seen enough to possibly correct in a cold Jan. game , of which revenge will be a motivational & driving force ?

Ask yourself that question, would you want KC a 3rd time in the cold or Indy /& or Cincy in Denver?

Its irrelevant which of those teams come to Denver this year. With a little bit of luck we should be getting healthier in the final weeks of the season and with a two week break to rest up all the starters before a two game slug fest at our house before a possible two week break before the big game.

First things first, but we know KC so well now. Even in your place you could hardly touch Manning with Barry only getting to him twice after the pass was thrown. No way you have any more success rushing him in Denver, you've tried every trick in your book and having Houston there today in KC still wouldn't have changed a thing! You guys have 2 sacks in the last what 6 games .. or is it 4 games .. whatever ... you've lost your mojo and both Denver and SD has shown the NFL world that?

KC is certainly improved over previous years without question, but that 9-0 streak was at least three games more wins from shear luck of schedule and back up QBs than the reality of your team accurately reflects.

KC is still likely two years away from a really competitive team and by then a good number of your expensive first round picks after so many decrepit seasons past will be moving on to greener pastures! You wont be able to afford all the talent you have now.

Anyway, in the here and now this season we'd be more than happy playing KC another time at Mile High. You definitely wont benefit from the big home crowd and the absolutely must win atmosphere of Arrowhead to get that early jump on us, courtesy of not only a very good early drive by your team but two gifts in the form of an uncharacteristic screw-ball kick off return coverage allowing a record 108 yard kick return for 7 when at least 5 Broncos should have tackled the kick returner well on KCs side of the 50, plus the Manning flutter ball INT on our 20 setting up an easy score.

That was about it for you guys, until the last gasp and well executed TD drive to make it mildly more interesting at the end,but there was still little danger of Denver blowing this game.

Broncos had your number all the second half and had you happened to have scored on that last Chiefs drive Denver would have marched down for a winning FG if not a TD to run out the clock, the way our Offense was pushing your D around from mid way through the 2nd quarter onward.

KC has reason to be happy, but you really didn't imagine your team was really going to jump from 2-14 to World Champs did you? This league is rarely so forgiving and accommodating to fairy tale stories, it typically takes a few years of hard knocks climbing the ladder and a couple bitter loses in the playoffs to season a team to go all the way. So get in line and continue paying your dues and maybe one day KC will make it back to the SB before the sun goes Nova!

OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Honestly you guys had a lot go your way. You got the turnovers. The return. Several starters injured. Even a starter who practiced all week and got sick right before the flight. The Chiefs had the table set.

I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Even at the end of the game, Reid used his timeouts well and you finally forced a punt. Given your situation missing players, you had more than a fair shot. It was a game you had to win too.

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

The Chiefs are a 8-8 or 9-7 that got incredibly lucky facing basically a backup QB every week, barely winning. Now they're playing starters and they've been exposed.

You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

no. Having an NFL starting caliber, healthy QB not in an uncharacteristic slump is what it takes to beat the Chiefs. You have lost each and every game you have played vs teams meeting the above criteria.

OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.

I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!

You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.

I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!

You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

no. Having an NFL starting caliber, healthy QB not in an uncharacteristic slump is what it takes to beat the Chiefs. You have lost each and every game you have played vs teams meeting the above criteria.

OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.

I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!

You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

Didn't read

Except for the "jelling" part. I caught that after posting. If you want to call a 3 game losing streak gelling, than feel free to do so. We will just continue to laugh at you.

OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.

I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!

You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

I saw the bold part and laughed.

You call a 3 game losing streak giving up 103 (76 of them AT HOME, plus the 1000 yards of O) jelling?

There is a reason Reid did not push the ball down field early in the year, it is because his QB is inconsistent downfield and his receivers cannot catch the ball. You guys need a ton of talent and your limited in the draft without that 2nd round pick this year. kFc is going to have to draft in the mid 20's and after paying Bowe $56 mill to drop more passes than he catches kFc is going to be hard pressed to land any big FA's this year. Plus they will not be able to draft a QB to develop for the future. At best case Reid trades down out of the 1st for 2 2nd round picks but will he find a couple WR's and TE as well as OL depth, CB (you know now that Coopers days are numbered) and some Safety depth. All while playing a tougher schedule next year.

There is a reason Manning didn't even visit, he saw the talent pool and kept listening to Elway talk.