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But that's the same as Yuuji turning bad in shakugan no shana. I also think of that before but when I heard news about the latest shakugan no shana I had doubts it would lead into that too despite me liking to see index and mikoto vs touma.

But that's the same as Yuuji turning bad in shakugan no shana. I also think of that before but when I heard news about the latest shakugan no shana I had doubts it would lead into that too despite me liking to see index and mikoto vs touma.

No, but the opposite did happen once. Mikoto once tried to electrocute them for making Touma smash face-first into Itsuwa's chest (The scene is too hilarious, so I'll wait for the actual translations go up on Baka-Tsuki before comment further ). This is in Vol16 Ch1, so everyone start praying for Teh Ping to get there soon

Another thing that annoys me of such "hero" characters, they dash into any situation head first and somehow comes out ahead every damn time.

If Touma is going to turn antihero, he is going to need a major 180 degree attitude change, that guy is about as wholesome "guaranteed to get into heaven" as you can get.

what i like about him which i have mentioned a few pages back in this forum is that he isnt a little bitch like some people who have harems. Like in that samurai show that came out. His sense of justice actually gets better(like it grows on you).

what i like about him which i have mentioned a few pages back in this forum is that he isnt a little bitch like some people who have harems. Like in that samurai show that came out. His sense of justice actually gets better(like it grows on you).

Also, have you read the novels?

Sadly no. Everything I know is from the anime and wikis.

Morally perfect "Superman" (literal Superman; Sups is practically the modern standard for the trope) heroes have kind of worn thin on me.

At least Mitoko has her moments of doubt and regret... Well, that and she is cute. ^.^

PS: anti-heros don't necessarily have to be 24/7 emo. A little mess-up-ness like Batman goes a long way.

I will agree that the anime doesn't really do good justice to his character, because he's not the type of person who talks unless its against an enemy, so you never quite get him. I suggest reading the LN.

It, being the original source, gives Touma a lot more depth I believe.