This makes you no better than the evil assholes we've been trying to defeat. In my opinion, of course.

It's hard to break through to brainwashed people yet very easy to spoon feed what appeals to them. In many if not most cases, there's a shot off mechanism built-in that needs to be massaged around. I favor Rand's approach to using the foreign aid debate to get one's foot in the door in regards to making the discussion of a more reasonable foreign policy palatable. If that lack of full transparency and bold truthbombs upsets your stomach, I'm truly sorry for that. Ron's going to proceed forward in the way he knows best and Rand will take his road which will likely end up on Ron's trail when it's all said and done.

Yes, trying to persuade someonelying to people for the right reasons puts you on par with those who do for the wrong reasons.

Fixed your post, for accuracy with regard to the argument I was making.

Edit to add: before someone comes along and gets their panties in a bunch, I AM NOT accusing Rand of lying about anything. This is the path at least one of his supporters in this thread wants him to take of which I am being critical.

Fixed your post, for accuracy with regard to the argument I was making.

Edit to add: before someone comes along and gets their panties in a bunch, I AM NOT accusing Rand of lying about anything. This is the path at least one of his supporters in this thread wants him to take of which I am being critical.

You don't have to lie in politics, you can bend the truth and you can keep quiet about some of your true intentions.

Obama is a socialist who believes in higher taxes and grabbing guns but he doesn't go around saying it explicitly.

We believe in abolishing the Fed and the Income tax but we dont have to make it a central theme of our campaigns.

We can talk about other things like Jobs and the Economy without mentioning it and then whence in power work to undermine the Fed and the IRS.

That way we sound eminently reasonable to the typical dumb voter who can't comprehend complex liberty positions and in return we get their vote to attain power and carry out what we believe in and what we couldn't properly make them understand.

If you want to waste campaigns trying to explain everything to voters then you'll burn through money and lose a lot of races.

It was my doing, everyone. I work in the Rainbow Factory, and I decided to shower Rand with a gift.

The line to start thanking me starts at the door.

Originally Posted by FrankRep

Kelly Thomas did this to himself.

Murder Time Fun Time.

"Maybe you'll fly someday, or maybe you won't. You're all kinds of awesome anyway." - Rainbow Dash"The state is a gun. It is not a flag. It is not trumpets. It is not a song. The state is force." - Stefan Molyneux "Now you see my fists? ...They are getting ready to fuck you up." - Manny Ramos

At first, I thought people were trying to be funny when talking about "using" this to an "advantage", because it makes reference to a meme. I read this thread hoping for jokes and banter. I think most people would laugh if this was "used", thinking one is trying to be funny at first... then realize they're being serious and become unamused.

At first, I thought people were trying to be funny when about "using" this to an "advantage", because it makes reference to a meme. I read this thread hoping for jokes and banter. I think most people would laugh if this was "used", thinking one is trying to be funny at first... then realize they're being serious and become unamused.

Come on, Yieu, turn that frown upside down. Have a Double Rainbow Fudge Popsicle, it'll cool those nerves down and make you forget about those little nasties trying to use my precious rainbows for their own nefarious political purposes.

Originally Posted by FrankRep

Kelly Thomas did this to himself.

Murder Time Fun Time.

"Maybe you'll fly someday, or maybe you won't. You're all kinds of awesome anyway." - Rainbow Dash"The state is a gun. It is not a flag. It is not trumpets. It is not a song. The state is force." - Stefan Molyneux "Now you see my fists? ...They are getting ready to fuck you up." - Manny Ramos

Despite a belief to the contrary evangelicals aren't 60 IQ retards who you can just show a video to and that makes them to decide who to vote for.

Put it this way: If Obama saw a double rainbow would you change your views or your vote. Of course not. And you'd be offended and/or laugh if someone wanted to change your politics because of a rainbow.

One of my complaints of people on this forum is they perceive anyone who is not a Ron Paul fan to be a disinfo agent or retarded. The world isn't that simple.

Ron Paul: "For those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do."

Put it this way: If Obama saw a double rainbow would you change your views or your vote. Of course not. And you'd be offended and/or laugh if someone wanted to change your politics because of a rainbow.

If you were a religious democrat you might see it differently than if you were a religious Republican. It is just a nice thing that happened, and a rainbow is a sign of hope. But the whole subject is being over-analyzed at this point.

The world isn't that simple.

True, intelligence and discernment are two different things. There are many things that can affect the discernment of an intelligent person.

I have a problem with steering the naive or uninformed by use of imaginary things that are known to the driver to have an effect on those naive or uninformed. It is not unlike steering elections by giving out phones and then allowing the poor to think the phones are free and from Obama, because someone has to pay for them and it ain't Obama.

I have a problem with steering the naive or uninformed by use of imaginary things that are known to the driver to have an effect on those naive or uninformed. It is not unlike steering elections by giving out phones and then allowing the poor to think the phones are free and from Obama, because someone has to pay for them and it ain't Obama.

I don't think that it will steer anyone. Rand's reaction to it just showed a part of him that people might identfy with. That's all. It's about likeability.

It doesn't appear as if Rand visited Bethlehem or the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the holiest place in the world. Next time, I hope he visits the place where Christ rose from the dead. I tell you, that will be the first place I visit if I make it to Jerusalem.

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