Some models in some hot countries do have the fan so there should be a warning about that.

I read that bit about not cleaning the cooling fan, and though at first I found it a bit confusing, I concluded that it was merely a poor translation of German and all they were really saying was "cleaning the cooling fan is NOT APPLICABLE to this model". I can't imagine that it would be possible to just "add" a fan to this model as there is no provision for one in the interior design and no vents in the case.

Am I wrong about that? Which countries have the fan?

look in the pictures below, the casing includes a hole for the fan to sit in.

It seems Nav 13X has been cancelled (no mention on netbooknvigator.com as of today)...

The screen of my Q40 is doing worse and worse (very considerable cracks; it fell a few times.) I'm wondering whether to fish for a "new" one on ebay, or wait another 6 months hoping someone will finally introduce something fanless and at least 11"...

Does anyone have any reliable information on laptops with fans but sporting a 100% reliable silent mode? My computing power needs are modest - 6 years old Q40 is good enough for me.

The new Chromebooks announced today are both fanless and use an SSD for storage, so completely silent. Won't be for everyone because they only run ChromeOS, but great option as a second computer mostly for web browsing.

The new Chromebooks announced today are both fanless and use an SSD for storage, so completely silent. Won't be for everyone because they only run ChromeOS, but great option as a second computer mostly for web browsing.

Might be a good choice for someone who wants an appliance-like device and knows nothing about computers. If it really runs as cool as they say, and is silent, that would be great. Just wondering how they are able to make a $250 laptop.

(edit: The secret sauce is ARM. That is why this thing can be fanless)

Does anyone know what GMail is like on a Chromebook? Is there a separate app/client for GMail, or does it just bring up the regular GMail website? Do Chromebooks have all the same Google ads in GMail and elsewhere that the Chrome web browser for PC has?

Just wonder if there are any news on completely silent notebooks/ultrabooks (~13-14 inch screen) with an Intel chipset, good performance (need not be state of the art), good battery time, USB2 and Win7/Win8 software?

For my purposes it needs be an Intel chipset as they appear to be more reliable in terms of recording sound ...

I currently have a Sony Vaio from their professional series and besides being a superb computer - as such - it's like being close to a "machine" most of the time. The fan is on most of the time and compared with other laptops it's actually noisy IMHO. So I'm really interested in finding a laptop with Intel processor, good performance etc. that is as silent as can be!

Does anyone know what GMail is like on a Chromebook? Is there a separate app/client for GMail, or does it just bring up the regular GMail website? Do Chromebooks have all the same Google ads in GMail and elsewhere that the Chrome web browser for PC has?

I've had my samsung chromebook for a few months now, and I have to say that I pretty much love it.

As far as apps go, its Chrome and the Chrome Web Store, you can largely duplicate the experience on any system that can run Chrome, What you can't duplicate is the combination of light weight, silent operation, long battery life, and snappy performance, and you can't come anywhere close at this price point.

I don't even carry my old laptop any more (HP DM1z) unless I have a specific need (virtual machines is what gets me).

With that said, here are the downsides:. Many apps are only useful when you have an internet connection.. Media playback is limited to a few formats (but h264 in an .avi is fine). Dealing with multiple email accounts is not great, you pretty much need to run a webmail tab for each one, which doesn't really work if you have more than one account on a server.. A 720p webcam would have been nice

There are a few other Chromebook models out there, but they're just cheap x86 laptops with all of the faults of cheap x86 laptops. The ARM model is truly different.

I've had my samsung chromebook for a few months now, and I have to say that I pretty much love it.

Which model do you have? The ARM model?

squash wrote:

As far as apps go, its Chrome and the Chrome Web Store, you can largely duplicate the experience on any system that can run Chrome.

OK. I have been trying this out by using Chrome web browser on a PC. I just don't like Gmail. At all. I don't like the web client. If there was a different client you could run that would make a difference.

Have you tried the "Gmail Offline" web app for Chrome? Because, in my opinion, that is a much nicer eMail client for Gmail. I wish I could use it instead of the regular Gmail web client all the time.However, I don't want the offline feature - I prefer to have all the mail stored on the server the way it normally is with IMAP.

squash wrote:

Dealing with multiple email accounts is not great, you pretty much need to run a webmail tab for each one, which doesn't really work if you have more than one account on a server.

Yeah, for that reason, it wouldn't work for me at all. But for someone with just a single eMail account it could be perfect.

squash wrote:

There are a few other Chromebook models out there, but they're just cheap x86 laptops with all of the faults of cheap x86 laptops. The ARM model is truly different.

I have seen non-free webmail apps that claim to support multiple accounts, such as xandmail, but I don't have any experience with them.

I've discovered a (somewhat hidden) feature in the lastest version of the Fastmail.fm webmail. It allows you to be simultaneously logged into multiple Fastmail accounts (free and paid) using the same browser on the same computer.

The way it works is, you log in to one account, leaving the "keep me logged in" checkbox UNchecked. Then return to the Fastmail homepage (https://www.fastmail.fm/) and you are now presented with the option of logging into additional accounts - complete with a fancy little animation of the log in box which does a 3D spin around to reveal the "secret" feature.

Unfortunately you wouldn't even know the feature exists because there is no provision for switching between logged in accounts from within the mail client. You need to manually go to Fastmail homepage (https://www.fastmail.fm/) to access the account-switching functionality. Also, if you click the "keep me logged in" checkbox upon logging into the first account, the feature is completely unavailable.

Very interesting. Full HD display with wide viewing angles, no fans, & SSD all seem good to me. An overall favorable assessment from Brad Linder.

Core i5 / i7 with no active cooling is bound to generate some heat. But the hybrid design puts all the heat generating components behind the screen and away from the keyboard area, so that shouldn't cause any usability issues (unless one is using it in tablet mode with the keyboard detached).

Although Spectre looks quite promising, it still doesn't beat my current Dell X1 (I used to have Samsung Q40 but I downgraded - I have to say Dell X1 is somewhat more sturdy) in the only two categories I care about: 1) is it fanless and has screen >12"? (well, it's a draw , 2) how much does it weight? At 4.5 pounds Spectre would be ~50% heavier.

On the other hand, probably batter life will be better, but I'd trade some battery life for smaller weight any time of day.

I have a bad feeling it's HDD only, given they cheap end of the market they are shooting for.

I'm sure you're probably right about that. From the photo of the bottom of the notebook, it appears one could possibly open it and swap the HDD for an SSD, though depending on the internal design, that can be a chore.

11 inch, it is pretty much tablet with a keyboard.I would love to get at least 15'' fanless laptop (preferably 17). Easy to do for designer, as large case fits larger heatsinks. But they are just refusing to make units like that.If you pick office type of dell 17'' notebooks, with really low tdp haswell i3 or worse, without dedicated graphic card. What they do is, fit really small heatsink in this large 17'' case, and put conventional turbine there. Probably it is little bit cheaper.It seems that very few people really care if laptop if fanless, can't find better explanation.

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