Edit: Recently broke up with my girlfriend. This is now my mission.
Next mission is converting a lesbian to the dark side of the sexual force (me), and solidifing the theroy that most girls are bisexual.

I have tried the totally silent approach in the past, but dropped it because of lack of references on the internet of other people doing the same. I remember I basically approaching a girl standing on her own ner the bar, saying nothing, just eye contact, maybe some smiling here and there. She first was like WTF but then she started qualifying herself and saying "my friends left me alone" and stuff like that. Soon it got to that point where I should have moved things forward by probably going for the make out but this thing was so out my reality that I somwat didn't push thru it. I was astounded by how this went but as I said I didn't dig deeper in this king of approach because of lack of references.

When guys in the community talk about signposts what do they mean? I think Tyler mentioned that word signposts in Bluperint as well. I've never understood that expresion. Does it mean when you notice you've made some progress? What do you mean by "signpost" Jove? Thanks n Goodluck.

Jove wrote:

I totally get you. I don't think Tyler was saying that the exercise necessarily leads to the moon he describes. It's just a sign post. I'm not sure I'm 100% clearly communicating here, but oh well.

On another note. I kind of thought that, what if when we're stuck on plateaus is because we keep punching AT the wall (because we don't know better) and when we punch THROUGH is when we finally break them plateaus

Manwhore wrote:

Actually, this is EXACTLY why I expressed some misgivings about this "technique". It's punching AT the wall, not thru the wall.. focusing on a reaction vs the bigger picture

Jove wrote:

I just realized a while ago that at 1:14 he was talking about 'sign posts' in his own way.

Manwhore wrote:

Jove why don't you fill us in on that. I've yet to read Bruce Lee's book I'm probably a retard for not having done so. Is it Tao of Jeet Kun Do you're talking about

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Haze~ wrote:

lol I imagine in 2 years time, Owen's next epiphany is how he just walked up and stuck his dick in the girl. Like, "Yeah! This is the next level! You are enough. Conversation is just social conditioning!"

Ontopic:

Tried it twice, one time I had nice physical contact with a girl but she wouldn't let me make out with her. She wasn't isolated by me by the way and it was in the center of a very open place where everyone walks by.

WIth another girl, she was laughing but then she didn't understand it and I wierded her out a bit. Then I said something and ejected lol, I didn't want to come across as some weirdo :/

LOL well I dunno who has the best game, but on THAT PARTICULAR night Tyler > GOD :)

Seriously it was fucken amazing. I was walking up on 6 foot models, pulling them out of the group for the makeout with barely a word out of my mouth, doods wouldn't say shit because they were too astounded and even guys whose GF's I stole would give me PROPS for it before taking them back. All sorts of insanity and I was doing it CALMLY and EFFORTLESSLY, was probably the most fun nights of my life (particularly the last one).

Fucken bizarre night, but to me it just shows what's possible when the stars line up correctly.

I'd attribute it to 1) ended it with main chick (not baby momma but one who was big to me) so gives you that sort of MANIC euphoric energy where your brain combats the sadness with a massive surge of endorphins, 2) had James the Hugh Jackman twin Aussie with me who is like the biggest natural I've met so far and his vibe was rubbing off on me, 3) going out non stop for weeks at a time in Miami, 4) having Nick's entrepreneur posse from his Xavii event with a huge $4000 table off to the back so they'd all pump my state and get psyched as I was doing this shit, and 5) the killer exercise that just brought it all home.

So it shows what's possible when you have certain things just going in your favour.

But just like a "satori experience" these things tend to hit hard at first and then dull down. So I've come back down from cloud 9 and just sort of in regular pimp mode now. Although I haven't really gone out for a proper night since the Monday and Tuesday were more just me doing my standard "hit it for a few minutes and go home" to stay sharp type deal.

Overall I think the exercise is absolutely outstanding for guys at a similar level to me and definitely worth playing with. I'll post videos about it at some point in the future. I found that it really helped me to understand the core of what the game is really all about. IME many of these epiphanies seem to come in circles, where you "get it" and then come back to it again and again but on deeper levels. Something like "act through your own intentions" have a surface level meaning at first, then deeper, then like CORE LEVEL deep after a while. It's pretty crazy how it works, I really love the whole journey aspect of it.

Lastly I guess I'd say I was most psyched because I've always found that my "best night" right now tends to become my "average night" in 6 months. I can't imagine a life where that becomes AVERAGE to me in six months so maybe it'll take a year or two, I dunno. But it really dangles a carrot in front of my face to GO FURTHER as Jed McKenna would say. :) Just keep hammering at it and realize that the time you put into the artform it will give back to you when you've earned it. :)

Tyler

Seriously though, regardless of what tyler said about game here, theres something to learn from the way he responded... he wasnt like NOOO IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD FUCK YOUR SHIT... he just like well anythings possible, heres some facts about reality that really have nothing to do with changing how i feel about what you said.

It's actually the same idea as that quote you have on your profile[=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, 'Bitstream Vera Sans', sans-serif]

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Let's say you're in this foggy area and the matrix is somewhere, you want to find it, feel it, experience it, etc. NO ONE can tell you exactly where it is, but what they can do is give you pointers. So now, you still don't know where the matrix is, but you have an 'idea' of what direction it might be. That's the sign post. It gives you an idea of where it might be, "It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that [the moon's] heavenly glory!" So, when you see a sign post, you don't concentrate on the sign post, you start walking in the direction you interpret it points, so you can 'find' the matrix.

champ wrote:

When guys in the community talk about signposts what do they mean? I think Tyler mentioned that word signposts in Bluperint as well. I've never understood that expresion. Does it mean when you notice you've made some progress? What do you mean by "signpost" Jove? Thanks n Goodluck.

Jove wrote:

I totally get you. I don't think Tyler was saying that the exercise necessarily leads to the moon he describes. It's just a sign post. I'm not sure I'm 100% clearly communicating here, but oh well.

On another note. I kind of thought that, what if when we're stuck on plateaus is because we keep punching AT the wall (because we don't know better) and when we punch THROUGH is when we finally break them plateaus

Manwhore wrote:

Actually, this is EXACTLY why I expressed some misgivings about this "technique". It's punching AT the wall, not thru the wall.. focusing on a reaction vs the bigger picture

Jove wrote:

I just realized a while ago that at 1:14 he was talking about 'sign posts' in his own way.

Manwhore wrote:

Jove why don't you fill us in on that. I've yet to read Bruce Lee's book I'm probably a retard for not having done so. Is it Tao of Jeet Kun Do you're talking about