Last month Nephilim theorist L. A. Marzulli expressed his anger that an unnamed researcher with an upcoming cable TV series on Bible giants allegedly failed to give Marzulli credit for uncovering a photograph of a supposed 8-foot giant from Catalina Island in California. Thanks to a press release from A+E Networks we now know that the researcher is Jim Vieira, who along with his brother Bill has been given a new History Channel series, Search for the Lost Giants, which will debut in the first week of November as part of History’s multi-network fringe history extravaganza. The same week will see the debut of the second season of Secrets of Oak Island on History and the return of America Unearthed on H2.

Jim Vieira is well known to regular readers of my blog as a longtime “giant” researcher who combs old newspaper accounts for evidence of oversized ancient humans. He also became briefly famous when the TED organization pulled his TEDx talk on giants because of its failure to meet the minimum qualifications for scientific evidence. (On the History Channel, this is likely a selling point.) Last year Vieira referred to me as “an individual on a crusade to save the world from bad science” and as a “troll” in an August 2, 2013, Facebook post blasting my evaluation of his claims about giant skeletons. At the time Vieira claimed that unlike me, whom he accused of profiting from debunking, he was a trustworthy source of information about giants because he was not paid to investigate giant claims:

I have no agenda and have not made a nickel from any of this. To the contrary, I have had to pay a fair amount of money to release many of these newspaper accounts from the dustbin of history.

Now he is being paid, so I guess that claim is no longer operative. Search for the Lost Giants is produced by Left/Right Productions, a company best known for producing Frontline documentaries for PBS as well as the Showtime adaptation of This American Life. According to A+E Networks, Vieira’s new series is modeled on its lead-in, Curse of Oak Island, and will similarly see two brothers investigating their eccentric view on ancient mysteries without finding any hard evidence to prove anything weird actually happened. We know this because the press release describes the series without mentioning the discovery of any actual giants, and had the two Vieira brothers actually found one, that would have been the lead in the press release. Here’s the network’s official description of the show:

The bible says, “There were giants in the earth in those days.” In SEARCH FOR THE LOST GIANTS, brothers Bill and Jim Viera set off on a nationwide quest for the truth. Several years ago, these hard-working stonemasons stumbled upon something in the Massachusetts woods that would change their lives forever: the brothers found a set of ancient stone structures and tunnels that could be the clue to a lost civilization. Further research led them to dozens of published accounts of giant bones and skeletons, some of which were found in similar structures across the country. These stone structures could be the clue to a lost civilization of giants that has never been mentioned in the history books. According to articles from the turn of the 20th century and various town histories, many of the remains were those of 9-12 feet (sic) tall humanoids, with double rows of teeth. But none of the reported skeletons can be found in any museum. If a race of giants once existed, where is the evidence today?

It’s a bit disheartening that we now have individual researchers who specialize in specific sizes of giants: The Vieiras go after 9-12-foot-tall giants, while Greg Little prefers them 6’6” to 8’5”. It is also a bit shocking that History forgot that its own Ancient Aliens and In Search of Aliens have both gone to museums where (actually normal-sized) skeletons alleged to be those of giants were displayed for the cameras. But what is more disturbing to me is the way such a very short passage from Genesis—verses 6:1-4—has become a programming strategy for History and the central focus for so very much of fringe history. Think about how much programming they get out of this brief passage, which in its entirety reads:

(1) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, (2) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. (3) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. (4) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Ancient Aliens wouldn’t exist without it. The sons of God, in their later adaptation as the Watchers from the Book of Enoch are the central actors in the ancient astronaut theory, particularly after Zecharia Sitchin identified them with the Anunnaki of Mesopotamian myth. They also govern Giorgio Tsoukalos’s vision of the past on In Search of Aliens. The later interpretation of the story from the Hellenistic period and after, in which the sons of God were rationalized as the sacred godly bloodline of Seth (e.g. Josephus, Antiquities 1.68-72; Africanus in Syncellus, Chronicle 19-20; John Cassian, Collectiones 8.21, etc.), ancestor of Jesus (Luke 3:23-38 with Africanus in Syncellus, Chronicle 19-20), is also the progenitor of the Holy Bloodline theory beloved of America Unearthed, which posits a parallel narrative where quasi-divine Templar descendants of Jesus similarly impregnated mortal native women in order to create a special ruling class who were the mighty men of the Middle Ages, including such luminaries as Quetzalcoatl. The parallels, some unintentional, are striking, but inherent in a belief in a sacred bloodline. And this is just the History Channel and its sister station H2. This doesn’t even count other networks’ shows on similar topics, the Christian conspiracy network that sees the Nephilim as a genetic impurity (a reverse Holy Bloodline) in hybridized modern humans, or the cornucopia of books and websites dedicated to tracing the history of the Watchers, be they rendered as fallen angels or demons (Nephilim theorists and creationists), extraterrestrials (ancient astronaut theorists), or a secret prehistoric cult (Andrew Collins, Graham Hancock, etc.). They are exceptionally malleable creatures. The giants, though, are an odd lot, too. The press release specifies that the giants have double rows of teeth, and for a long time I thought this was just a weird affectation of nineteenth century writers trying to make their giants stand out: twice the height and twice the teeth! The trope of the double row of teeth was well enough known that the nineteenth century satire The Parable of the Giants made mention of the giants’ unusual dentition. But it seems that this trait has been expected of giants since the earliest of days. In the early modern manuscripts known as the Book of Howth preserved by Sir George Carew, a sixteenth century English admiral and member of Parliament, we read of the exact same thing in a fragment of discussion on the reality of Bible giants: “Another giant’s body was found to be 20 foot in length and having a double row of teeth” (folio 147). The whole passage, the original author of which is unknown but attributed to the Book of Howth, is interesting enough that I’ve added it to my Library with numerous annotations as the first entry in what I guess will become a section on giants. You’ll note that most of the giants mentioned in it are almost certainly misidentified Ice Age mammals’ bones. Not, too, that there is ample European precedent for the nineteenth century American giant stories, suggesting (since we know the European ones were a combination of myth and misidentification) that the Americans were importing European lore and modeling their hoaxes and expectations on earlier precedents, a fairly clear parallel to other nineteenth century efforts to Europeanize the American landscape. If pressed to guess, I would say that the double teeth trope goes back to dental problem that did not have an easy solution before modern dentistry. According to Thomas Berdmore, writing in the Treatise on the Disorders and Deformities of the Teeth and Gums (1768), it was not entirely uncommon in his era for the milk teeth (baby teeth) to remain fixed in place even when adult teeth came in over them “and this is the true cause of odd supernumerary Teeth, or double rows.” It stands to reason that such a condition occurred often enough to be noticeable in earlier centuries as well. King Louis XIII of France reportedly had such a deformity, as did one of Columbus’s sons. Pliny the Elder records the existence of the phenomenon in his Natural History: “Timarchus, the son of Nicocles the Paphian, had a double row of teeth in his jaws” (11.63), and his nineteenth century translators, John Bostock and H. T. Riley, noted that the condition was “not uncommon” in their day. Today we call the dental condition hyperdontia, and it most typically involves individual or rows of extra adult teeth forming in the human mouth. Given that in the Middle Ages any deformity was considered a prodigy, and evidence of either divine favor or demonic influence, it is only natural that the evil giants, sons of the fallen angels, would be possessed of this diabolical trait in the mythic imagination. At any rate, the examples above demonstrate that skulls with double rows of teeth are not prima facie evidence of giants since they reflect known and not uncommon dental conditions, conditions undoubtedly more common in the Middle Ages when there was a smaller population and less genetic diversity, leading to greater incidence of such abnormalities. On the other hand, it also proves that reports of skulls with double rows of teeth are not prima facie false, since such a characteristic can and does occur in otherwise normal human beings. If many oversized skeletons really were found in Native American burial mounds (not a certainty at all), and they really were more likely to have genetic abnormalities like hyperdontia, this sounds a lot like we’re looking at cases where individuals with genetic conditions leading to rapid or excessive growth were given special burials, rather than looking at members of a lost supernatural race of Bible giants.I’m glad, though, that now I have enough information to better understand the strange case of the double row of teeth, which may now safely be excised from the diagnostic criteria of giants as some supernatural or nonhuman trait.

And there's evidence of evolution? Galileo was forbid from advocating heliocentrism (round earth) He was tried, then found "vehemently suspect of heresy" was forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. Why not encourage any efforts at investigation into the truth? We all might learn something!

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AJ

11/29/2014 02:54:59 pm

Evolution... You ever seen a dog? The "evolved" from one species of wolf, hence "Evolution". You science deniers are amazing.

JustinG

3/21/2015 05:43:38 pm

Evolution and breeding are two completely different things.

Justin G

3/21/2015 05:50:17 pm

and don't for the Smithsonian has recently (last few years) admitted they were ordered to acquire and hide things that did or doesn't agree with mainstream science. They were also ordered during Manifest Destiny to destroy and/or bury ALL history that pre-dated European arrival.

Ever read about the Sucahannocks in pa. Wwwspanishhill sayre pa on Murry's farm in a bural mound 68 skelitons were uncovered average size was 7 ft. Many Much Larger. Their is much wr don't. Know or. That has been lost in time but what they teach us as our history is far from the truth. Just cus you don't. See it doesn't mean it aint true

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John M. Garrigan

7/10/2015 07:13:48 am

Looks like this article was written by a psychology major.

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666

10/6/2014 04:17:12 am

>>>Genesis—verses 6:1-4

The Jews were a nomadic tribe always on the receiving end. Because they wandered and never settled there never was any time to develop a pantheon of gods - hence monotheism became fossilized into the social strata of their existence by the time they did become settled.

Although there were strains on Monotheism, as outlined in the Bible where there was even a Jewish Goddess at one period.

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666

10/6/2014 04:19:16 am

postscript - the Nephilim were the oppressors of the Jews. Be it the Egyptians, the Philistines, the Babylonians, the Seleucids, the Romans, etc

do you want to find lots of giants go to smithoian
also go to www.mtblanco.com
kent hoven

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EP

10/6/2014 05:17:54 am

"the TED organization pulled his TEDx talk on giants because of its failure to meet the minimum qualifications for scientific evidence."

I had no idea one there is such a thing as minimum qualifications for gving a TEDx talk...

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Matt Mc

10/6/2014 06:07:06 am

yeah it was strange when it happened. It was well played on Veira's part since he claimed it was part of the conspiracy to suppress his theories. I have always been entertained by these theories that have the safe "conspiracy" way out, cracks me up.

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Islander

10/23/2014 06:30:07 pm

There is evidence of ancient civilizations in the Eastern South Pacific Islands. On Guam, Saipan and Tinian. Interesting illustrations and photos of megalithic stones. Nan Madal in Phonpei is another one. The interesting of these are the latte stone quarry sites and Taga's House in Tinian. If you Google the images of Taga's House, you can see the scale of these stones. compared to the reliefs of latte stones in the Borbor Pyramid in Indonesia depicting latte stones as the support structures for family dwellings, Taga's house would house enormous giants in comparison. Wonder why anyone hasn't correlated this information or publicly disseminated the history.

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Uncle Ron

10/6/2014 11:12:14 am

The question "...none of the reported skeletons can be found in any museum. If a race of giants once existed, where is the evidence today?" is the perfect set up for a conspiracy claim. Of course nobody wants to hear that the "reported skeletons" are all hokum.

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Steve in SoDak

10/6/2014 11:18:31 am

I was just thinking back fondly to the days of my relative youth when I could turn on the History Channel and see a documentary on WWII, the Vietnam War, Ancient China, or even Greek Mythology. I really miss those days

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EP

10/6/2014 03:34:35 pm

That's what the Internetz be for.

TV is for hicks and old people. Who take AU and Biblical Giants seriously...

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Steve in SoDak

10/6/2014 03:56:58 pm

my internet is so spotty all I have is basic cable (30 channels) I actually can't watch any of the before mentioned shows unless there is a marathon on History channel, but the reviews by Jason let me know I'm not really missing anything except a headache from the inside screaming at the stupidity of the shows I can't watch.

Duke of URL

10/7/2014 04:40:02 am

A-fragging-HEM! As a "hick" (born on a farm, raised/retired in Nebraska) and an "old people" (67), I resent that remark. Personally, I'ven't even owned a TV since about 2003, getting my information/entertainment via the intertubes!

I totally agree with Rob of SoDak. Sick to death of Pawn Stars Repeats &Kounting Cars repeats.

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Shane C

10/6/2014 11:39:48 am

"In SEARCH FOR THE LOST GIANTS, brothers Bill and Jim Viera set off on a nationwide quest for the TRUTH"

Almost every time a conspiracy theorist speaks, they say they are looking for the truth; but they never say they looking for the facts.
It reminds me of that line from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade:
"Archeology is the search for facts, not truth. If you want truth, go to the philosophy class down the hall."

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EP

10/6/2014 12:23:35 pm

Clearly Indiana Jones knows nothing about philosophy :)

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Zach

10/6/2014 01:07:48 pm

@ Shane C

It's interesting you bring Indiana Jones up since he's the character these fringe figures all want to be. In yet, that line was said by him when he was in a classroom with his students where he was a professor at a university. These Viera brothers better not go and claim to be the "the real life Indiana jones", since they are part of this group that yells "Conspiracy!," when academics call their bullshit out. Especially with this giant nonsense, which is really getting annoying, and honestly is completely boring. And yet, that same character they all play dress up as, who they wish to be, is a fucking academic. H2 needs to be a bit more honest that they only try to appeal to the racist right wing, and anti-intellectual demographic.

666

10/6/2014 01:28:49 pm

>>>knows nothing about philosophy

Not another subjective fabrication
Homo Sapiens superfluous baggage

666

10/6/2014 01:34:45 pm

>>>appeal to the racist right wing

Umm, only skeptics with distorted views of fringe beliefs can see that.
Fringe believers aren't really politicians.
Yes, there are a few right wingers in existence, the operative word being "few" - and that does not include people like EvD who do not want to start the Fourth Reich
I have to come to these fringe believers' side about this matter, because it's all wrong.
When EvD says spacemen from another world started civilisation on Planet Earth he is no more being "racist" than the person who claims the Jews are responsible for creating the Messiah - and there's nothing more fascist than the belief in a Supreme Being claiming he's the Son of God.

That's 100% correct - someone can possess all those attributes and not be a right-wing racist.

Shane Sullivan

10/6/2014 04:26:30 pm

666, you know that wanting to start the Fourth Reich is not an actual prerequisite to being a racist, right? A person can display a great deal of racial bias without having any sympathy for Nazi Germany.

Mark L

10/7/2014 01:08:08 am

666, if you could point out any left-wingers around the Ancient Aliens crew, I'd be interested.

EP

10/7/2014 05:06:21 am

@ Mark L

Giorgio Tsoukalos, for one :P

James

11/4/2014 02:59:29 pm

How the hell would you know? Do you Jim? Bill? Do you know if they are honest, smart, hard working? No. You're just anonymous face on the internet trying to appear intelligent by using ad hominem attack upon a topic you have never seriously researched. If you having something to add besides more of the same moronic drivel, do so. Otherwise stfu.

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Only Me

10/6/2014 01:46:07 pm

The only person capable of spouting more uneducated bullshit than the fringe believers is 666.

Like a typical AA theorist, EvD is his patron saint.

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Zach

10/6/2014 01:56:48 pm

Only Me, you really need to stop ignoring 666/Rev. Phil/ Steve St Clair. I know that ignoring this troll isn't gonna stop him/ her but feeding them just makes it worse. I've dealt with people like this on various boards, and it took me a while to learn that ignoring them is the best thing to do. They share the same quirks, and grammar, and even similar rhetoric that a lot of these people use. They just want to get a rise out if you, that's it.

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666

10/6/2014 02:01:19 pm

>>ignoring this troll

Yeah, EvD is "Racist".
That's enlightenment

Zach

10/6/2014 02:04:47 pm

Edit -- *start* ignoring

666

10/6/2014 02:10:03 pm

>>>Edit -- *start* ignoring

Not really a sceptic, just a critic of anything that does not involve the Bible.

EP

10/6/2014 03:36:29 pm

@ Zach

I must disagree, unfortunately. I believe 666 is really deranged.

666

10/6/2014 01:59:39 pm

I am the world's biggest basher of Fringe Beliefs and Pseudo-Babble.

Even today, pretenders to various thrones of the world are supported by the Clergy,

In case some people HAVE NOT NOTICED - Monarchs are crowned by Bishops or Archbishops - and the Monarchy is Cognate with Religion.

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An Over-Educated Grunt

10/6/2014 02:04:52 pm

Ah yes, perfect neutrality strikes again!

666

10/6/2014 02:08:05 pm

>>>Ah yes, perfect neutrality strikes again!

Ah yes, coming to the defence of religion again
"I don't believe in the Bible" bogus hokum

An Over-Educated Grunt

10/6/2014 02:15:19 pm

More like coming to the defense of "not being a self-righteous asshole." Your stance is, at best, imperfectly neutral, and you claim to have all the answers. That by itself puts you more in the "church and von Däniken" camp than me.

666

10/6/2014 02:25:58 pm

EvD is not a racist, he adheres to the ancient astronaut religion = spiritual crutch - deficiency of homo sapiens

I belong to none of those things.

I therefore cannot endorse your distorted evaluation

An Over-Educated Grunt

10/6/2014 02:28:16 pm

Thank goodness. The day you endorse a position of mine is the day I abandon it.

666

10/6/2014 02:35:48 pm

>>>the day I abandon it.

You demonstrate time and time again that you have a lot to learn about basic common sense

666

10/6/2014 02:04:36 pm

>>>uneducated bullshit

There's nothing, absolutely nothing in the whole entire world, more Racist than the idea of the Incarnate Son of God - it has controlled whole empires, emperors and led the most violent butcheries of men, women and children in the name of Crusades - ISLAMIC STATE is the closest thing to Medieval Papacy going.

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Only Me

10/6/2014 02:28:27 pm

"There's nothing, absolutely nothing in the whole entire world, more Racist than the idea of the Incarnate Son of God"

Nothing except an AAT trying to defend his racist patron saint.

It's funny you want to talk about butchery in the name of the Crusades, but your answer to every believer in subjects not related to your beloved EvD was to line them up in front of a firing squad.

I cannot accept your summary. You have all the hallmarks of a fringe believer:

1) Mainstream scholarship is flawed, wrong, agenda-driven, etc.
2) You are the only one with all the answers
3) You attack religion in general, Christianity specifically
4) You disavow obvious racist ideology
5) You resort to personal insults anytime you're challenged

Have fun in dreamland.

Greg Little

10/6/2014 03:24:44 pm

Where have I ever said or written that 8.5 foot giants were found or preferred?

Not much for rhetorical language are you, Greg? "Prefer" is a facetious rhetorical description of your published conclusions. You said you have found no evidence for giants over 8.5-9 feet tall, which therefore places your work in opposition to Viera's efforts to find giants above 9 feet.

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Greg Little

10/7/2014 01:04:51 am

The tallest that I verified was 7.5 ft. There were about 25 found in archaeological excavations that were from 6.6 to 7.5. But I don't want to confuse you and your mindless minions with facts.

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Clint Knapp

10/7/2014 03:31:46 am

Facts? How about the fact there's nothing particularly anomalous about 6'6" (not the same thing as 6.6, which would be roughly 6'7.2") people? Certainly nothing 'giant'. I refer you to the entire history of the NBA and professional wrestling.

Your search for giants is a search for tall people, and you can't even find the ones that are running around the world in full public view today- so why should we expect you to find anything of historical significance?

Perhaps you expect your readership still buys into that old myth that people in the past were shorter, in the face of all evidence to the contrary? I suppose that would make them, and you, the "mindless minions" you speak of, wouldn't it?

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EP

10/7/2014 05:05:37 am

Dr. Little, could you tell us more about the sperm-collecting UFO demons, please?

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JJ

12/2/2014 03:34:37 pm

I am curious. I have great-uncles who were over seven feet tall. They were tall but not giants at that height. There is a family condition, Marfans. What are some differences between giants and just really tall people?

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Duke of URL

10/7/2014 04:32:48 am

The bible says, “There were giants in the earth in those days.” -- I checked with an anthropologist friend and he told me that, according to dug-up skeletons and other physical evidence such as furniture, the average man's height in the Middle East (that being where the bible was written) 3000-3500 years ago (that being when the bible originated) was 5 feet 4 inches... So... A 6-foot tall man would have been thought a giant. Wonder what they'd've thought of the NBA players, many being way over 7 feet tall?

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greg little

10/7/2014 10:27:06 am

It's in that book ep. It's like saying colavito is a UFO writer who believes in ancient aliens. Oh wait he has written about UFOs and ancient aliens. Oh wait you have too. Proof you both believe in UFOs and are therefore nutters. And I see you also write about sperm collecting demons. I can't spend more time on you wackjob true believers.

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Only Me

10/7/2014 11:08:10 am

Is this the REAL Greg Little, or some asshole trying to get cheap kicks?

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An Over-Educated Grunt

10/7/2014 11:19:23 am

Feels like an asshole. Not a lot of Greg Little's writing samples here on the page from which to draw, but it lacks his "fist," to use the old term.

EP

10/7/2014 01:23:32 pm

So Dr. Gregory Little never believed in or seriously considered the possibility of sperm-collecting UFO demons? Because I'm pretty sure he did at least once...

My father retired from Army Corp Engineers and they worked making highway system after IIWW along side private contractors. In the mid west they found dozens of giant bones underneath old Indian burial grounds. They were all sent to Museum in Washington and this is cross documented in several Corps journals...reality check, these respected museums all lost these bones and records - because they went against (their version of truth) So, who can you trust?

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Ruth Griffin

10/13/2014 03:25:46 am

Jason, I don't see the insult in the comment: "an individual on a crusade to save the world from bad science”. Sadly, there's enough of it to keep you busy for decades to come.

finally some1 is going 2 get 2 the bottom of this even abe Lincoln talked about them this race of giants that took like billion pounds of copper from the copper mines in mich and made copper tools and armor they have found them allover the world and I cant wait til your show comes out also theres a story that when they were making 119 from Harlan to Cumberland ky there was a cave buried with them but they closed it up and theres rocks with strange writing on them and there not American indian they have books with these writings in ky and come across some scones in the mountains but never messed with them just hope no1 interferes with you all especially Smithsonian good luck

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Duke of URL

10/27/2014 12:16:39 pm

alan garlic -
finally some1 is going 2 get 2 the bottom of this even abe Lincoln talked about them

Wow. I thought you banned 666...

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jason daniels

11/4/2014 02:36:59 pm

Just search red haired giants of the south west. Those skulls were shown on ancient aliens. They were found in a cave after ranchers dug out some 20 ft of bat quano and they are right now in a non descript cabinet in a local museum and can be viewed on request

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T.V

11/20/2014 12:29:38 am

I've watched the series about the red haired giants of the south west and they have tested the DNA. It proves that it is not completely human. Why is it so hard for people to believe in Giants, Aliens, Anunnaki, etc. But yet they totally believe in something they have never seen before like God, Mohammed, Alla etc.

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Lanny

11/7/2014 12:35:21 pm

I found a book called Horn indains.They found a burial site near erie pa. of a least 12 Indians with horns and 8 foot long.I do not know what was done with there bones.

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Lanny

11/7/2014 12:54:06 pm

That writing on stone i think it is white mans Interpretation of indians talking.

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Russell L. Strunk

11/7/2014 04:30:13 pm

I along with a good friend dug one up in 1991 7'3" roughly

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amthony

11/9/2014 06:51:50 am

I have a giant tooth from the falls of the Ohio contact me need to give it to whom ever needs evidence to show as soon as find it at my dads in storage will send u a picture no it is big jaw tooth from a giant human

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Anthony

11/9/2014 07:10:45 am

I have great ideal if I had funding I would explore the waters below the falls of the Ohio an show there is evidence to show there's giants that live there I believe there is underwater caverns an caves never been attempted to discovered when the river is down in the summer an less current that's best time to search around near sand island been on the river fishing all my life. I would search for lost treasure lost in wreckage below falls of Ohio many ships have sunk an never been recovered I like to be part of a team to recover this mission thanks for listening

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phil garcia

11/11/2014 10:19:43 pm

Back in the 60s i remember reading a news paper article down in baja ca. The article said many giant bones were found in a cave in central baja .. wonder if theyve hurd about them bones...

Corn island by the falls of Ohio had giant burial sites an mounds but now submerged under water. Why cover up an hide such findings we need to uncover what was lost but not forgotten call me here in Louisville will be glad to talk to the Vieira brothers.5023565993

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Robert Mallernee

11/18/2014 02:44:41 pm

Hello , I read about a battle site outside of wichita ks in the Redlands of the Choctaw natiin found in the 1800s, it had 3000 skeletons per mile for 10 miles plus, dwarf n giant skeletons, we're gound, but just like in mounds, around kansas city the bones ended up in Smithsonian I hear.but people n native indians, kept bones that were dwarf n giant in size or so I hear from old people n folklorists .try there

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jose

11/19/2014 04:44:44 am

I think your problem is that you wish you would be doing this instead of Jim. Reading your "debunking" text above, this is what tells me.
Dont you realize that major discoveries start with programs such as these? How many people will actually come forward or do their own dig based on that...It is awesome that the television is bringing out those things...because YOU know that a lot of history is hidden under the carpet because of the mainstream historians.
In regards to the ancient aliens theories, there are a lot of facts still unexplained...so what I just said above is true for that as well.

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Michael LaMoore

11/19/2014 05:44:03 am

im from r.i. but am living in mo., there is a huge hill of a mound up the street a piece its said to be an indian gravesite I have a theory that the mound is covering a giant skeleton.

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T.V

11/20/2014 12:21:01 am

There is a Giant Foot Print 200 Million Yrs Old in south Africa if anyone wants to view it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuxw-nZoJw You'd be surprised the things the government has hidden. look at the people who found evidence of mermaids. All their findings and the corps were taken away from them. All the tests they ran taken away never to be heard of again. the Government hides and lies about everything. They claim it's not to make people panic. People need to open up their minds to new things. There are so many things in life we still don't understand and probably never will.

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Anthony

11/21/2014 01:16:03 am

If Jim wants the credit for another show the falls of Ohio is the place to go research sand island, there plenty evidence on the island that has not been dugup.When summer gets here an the river is the lowest an the upper dam shut off that be the time to look.Come to Louisville kentucky an start looking this could be another show for finding giants

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Ray

11/23/2014 06:17:36 am

We live among giants in our time .look at our pro athletes. Wichita State signed a oung man 18-19 years old 6'7" 290 les. Explain that!

I have information on the close whereabouts of a giant that lived on the Halifax and Northampton Co. border on the Roanoke River that was found in the late 1800's when they built the Weldon to Wilmington railroad.You can call me at 252- 533- 9209. I have collected native american artifacts for over 50 years and know the area the grave (mound ) was found. Said the giant had the femur the size of a horse.

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KBR

11/24/2014 12:00:04 am

Why is this a mystery? Giantism is a known condition still extant.No reason to believe that it did not exist in ancient times. In ancient times, persons with such a condition would likely be seen as either demon-like or god-like because they were so different. Or they might be sought as warriors because they were frighteningly large. Perhaps such giants as could be found were buried together by some ancient tribes. Perhaps persons with familial giantism stuck together because they were either outcasts or constantly challenged by young warriors out to prove themselves: as such they might find living hard, and myths might be made about them in their own times. In any case, any finding of one or several giant skeletons proves
only that giantism existed then, not necessarily a "race of giants."
There are many photos online of such persons: I must assume these persons will be or have been buried. Today, persons with giantism usually have their growth stopped via treatments or tumor removals. How large might they have grown in past days before treatments were available? Yes there were giants, and there still are, but that is proven, and is considered a medical condition. Some have been in the film industry. Finding a grave or special tomb of one or several from ancient times would mean only that giantism-sufferers were seen as different either special or evil by the culture that buried them.
No doubt there are many such current graves in the circus-
community areas, where circus performers live when not on tour, in FL, perhaps in "giant land": maybe in some future time someone will dig up some grave-sites there and be convinced of a "race of
giants?" Look at the facts folks.

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rick

12/6/2014 02:13:42 pm

They are trying to discover a "race" of giants not just an isolated case of giantism.

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T

11/25/2014 01:02:41 am

This is for the two Vieira brothers. Have you ever studied the Red Paint sites along the eastern seaboard? I have worked on many and there are some similarities. T

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Karon Williamson Morris

12/2/2014 06:33:55 am

If you notice all the "giant bones" get sent to the Smithsonian! That the real buriel ground for the GIANT SASQUATCH. The sasquatch ARE who the bones belong to and the Smithsonian don't want nobody to know they ARE the missing link because religious thinkers wouldn't like you calling giants bones "sasquatch bones"~because THAT might make them the missing link so they HIDE the damn bones of the Sasquatch!~NOT right to steal their bones and hide the FACT they exist either!~Those bones ARE sasquatch bones~stop calling them "giant bones" when they are the sasquatch bones! Connect the dots right!~They refuse to say sasquatch exist because their bones end up being called giant bones and they all VANISH over at the Smithsonian Sasquatch Burial Ground because they DO NOT want people thinking they are the "missing link" and prefer they disappear as GIANT bones!~Meanwhile the Sasquatch don't exist BECAUSE they can't find their bones~because the Smithsonian STEALS them all!!~everytime they ARE found!~They ARE the Sasquatch Bones of those people! Either stop sending them to the Smithsonian or leave their damn bones alone!~If you don't mind they DO NOT want their bones stolen and taken to Smithsonian they want the bones buried and left alone!~Thanks!

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kdaigle

12/2/2014 02:45:51 pm

Give it up.....all the bones and evidence has long been taken care of by these illuminated pricks......even by some miracle u found some ,the power structure would NEVER allow it disclosed to the people until it benefits there agenda....aka NWO

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kyle

12/2/2014 02:48:59 pm

U need to contact Steve quayle

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rraml

12/4/2014 02:51:40 am

Has anybdy ever thought that these skeletons might be yeti remains. People may have revered them and wanted to bury them with importance thinking they were some kind if god. Explains the large stature and cannibalistic nature

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Kerry

12/9/2014 03:26:41 pm

They should check out Clifford Thompson of Scandinavia, Wisconsin. He died in 1955 and was well beyond a normal-sized man.

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CR

12/9/2014 03:48:25 pm

This television program is just that "a program" to promote the Simulation & Simulacra of life today. If this tv program wanted this to be successful it would have involved most of the smartest illuminated researchers on this subject and brought to light that in Ohio there is the only known nephilim road in existence that runs 50-60 miles long called the "Hopewell Road". I have 2 books written by Fritz Zimmerman that are named:
1) Nephilim Chronicles
Fallen Angles In The Ohio Valley
2) Nephilim Chronicles
A Travel Guide To The Ancient Ruins In The Ohio Valley
and both books are an eye opener this type of research.....
There just isn't the presence of nephilim remains, but there sun dials and astrological earth works that cross over to numbers like 23.5 which is the tilt of the Earth, 666 which is a sacred number for secret societies, 555 which is the used for most obelisks spanning from Egypt to Washington D.C. Just having 2 brothers with an idea is great, but allowing faulty research without being illuminated about it is not how you get to the truth in this field. Let us keep in mind that there was a scientist overseeing the museum for 40 years who didn't like the talk of nephilim. This show is unbelievable to me because if they wanted the truth was to come out then the leading researchers in the field would be present making a scientific breakthrough, but this is what people running show biz wants.... a major part of society will not question the truth and think this tv program is real...... sad but true!!! Listen, Even in the best novels when crimes occur there is still a thread of evidence present and this is a thread that for some reason is highly secretive and begs the research for the truth. Was there the birth of gods, nephilim, dinosaurs and now humans? Why hide the shreds of evidence when there is a mountain of it? Too much stuff to point that there is something here to have 2 brothers with no background looking for it? Too strange!!!

The brothers who look for giants got lucky history channel picked up their shiw, giving them funds to go look.but instead of us giving them tips, maybe we should either make a website, chat group or something, n possibly pool our tools, knowledge, theories, maybe even split costs of looking for the stuff we kniw instead of offering it up to them for free.I have some ifo, tools and will to go look for things but it's hard to know geology, history, science, genealogy, and many of the other things needed to do something like this correctly so we won't be laughed out of the places we try to get things tested or get to write a story about it.it's just a thought but I doubt anyone would want to share their knowledge, time or anything else.times make it tough to trust.I get it.but wouldn't it be real.

Hey I appreciate the fact you read what I said and I watched a special "American unearthed on history" it showed after they spent 10 s of thousands of dollars and dug a foitball feild of dirt 59 ft down the rockwall in Texas is a natural land formation it's too bad .I'd like to see it sometime tho.I'll hit you up if I decide to head that way for sure.I want to get with people who want to go try and find the things we hear about in the areas where we live and try to get it done right and as professional as we can so people don't laugh or blow us off as jokesters.I'm in ks.the above article talks of the Giants and dwarf bodies ,30000 of the found in the late 1880s east of wichita ks in the Redlands of the Kiowa nation,300 body's per mile all in a, circle buried , one in 5he middle n rest surrounding him.arrows in each head.I'd like to go find out what happened, where, and I've heard from old timers, regular fam8ly kept bones from tgat , so I guess the big museums didn't get em all.I bet they didn't find all the bones either.ice heard about this off n ok n for 35yrs.maybe simeday.but Rockwall Texas sounds like a plan come summertime.I'll put ur n7mber in my cpu memory. Thanks for reading post tho.the article above blew my mind.it made me realize all the crazy stuff I've heard about for years maybe rwal

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Adam

5/9/2015 05:00:14 am

I watched Scott Wolter's investigation of Rockwall very closely. His entire premise that it is a natural formation rests on the magnetic orientation of the rocks. I would like to offer an alternative hypothesis...what if the wall was built before the Earth's magnetic field was very strong? And subsequently, the wall was magnetized in a uniform orientation. A clastic dike such as that claimed by many geologists would be hard to explain if it encloses a rectangular area, for example. Also, what of the arches, stairs, and other features reported in conjunction with the wall? It seems some studies with ground penetrating radar would be in order, to determine more of the structure.

Adam

5/9/2015 04:55:00 am

In response to the claim that no bones of giants reside in any museum, eyewitnesses claim to have seen an unusual skull in Winnemucca, Nevada, allegedly recovered from the Lovelock Cave. Other bones were sent to Berkeley. And of course there are probably hundreds if not thousands of skeletons residing in the Smithsonian, which has been busy suppressing evidence of giants for quite some time.

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Jim Kindle

8/2/2015 08:49:19 am

Not sure if you will ever read this but I have read all of Col James Churchward book on his 50 year investigation on Lemuriea a lost continent off of the west coast of the USA which perished over 10,000 years ago. Catalina Island very well could be part of Lemuria as is the Hawaian Islands. He mentioned in his research that the people of Lemuria was giants. I was surprised you had not mentioned Lemuria in your research. The Bible in the O.T. also states there were Giants on earth. I believe when things are told to be through history no matter what that there is a fact of reality behind it. Sure wish I could be with you as it is one of my great desires to reopen the past in some way. Keep up the good work.

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reuben horsman

9/14/2015 04:06:50 am

I do not know if U know of Josephus, he was a historian at the time of Jesus Christ, he confirmed much he was in the new testament of the Bible, any way, by chance, if U know of him U might check him out on Google, around the time of Jesus their was a dead giant on display in Jerusalem, he even gives account as the giant having a double set of teeth. One other, people do not know for about 2500 years the giants ruled, and everyone being scared called them gods, the names of a lot of Greek gods, were the name of these giants, here is one more, it is theory, but Goliath & his 4 brothers may have been from the seed of the Samson of the Bible, UM, I wonder if Goliath had double row of teeth, last one, look up King OG of Bashan, his bed was 12 feet long, Deut. 3-11,when the Israelites went into the land of Canaan, they encountered the Anakim, I will stop for now, Thanks

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Melinda

1/16/2016 02:08:54 am

Giants are not so hard to believe. They have found large humans all through history. Written records, bones. Go to Egypt. They have all kinds of records there. Their records show a pharaoh who was 11 feet tall. Humans as tall as 20 feet have been recorded. Nothing new here. Americans find it so hard to believe anything other than what the "main stream" tells them to believe. The History channel show literally demonized a man for digging up the Catalina Islands. They smeared this man's name for no reason. This is a lie. If you want to find out what has happened to all the human giant bones that were dug up in the 1800's here in America. Visit the Smithsonian, because there in lies the real CULPRIT. The Smithsonian curator in the 1920's had all the Giant Human bones destroyed and men like the Catalina man, Glitton, demonized. The Smithsonian hired people to destroy & desecrate places like the Catalina Islands and all over America in the 1920's and they set the course for what was taught in American colleges. The Smithsonian people are the real demons here. Shame on you History Channel for such garbage reporting and the 2 idiots they hired here. Who, I might add, are bought and paid for just like all the people in the show. There is NO curse of the Giant hunters only the curse you fall under if you go against the Smithsonian people.

I appreciate that we agree 10s giant bones, and any others ever found are at Smithsonian, Abraham Lincoln said a speech that includes we are standing where a giant native culture once lived n all across ed the usa there's more. I hate the fact our history is controlled n manipulated. But there's not much yo do, look at isis, they are destroying history systematically, strange, it's mostly total destruction, n they loot as if they are looking for something particular. Same stuff has happened thru all history, what would have happened to the world, how much farther would we be if the library at Alexandria wasn't destroyed,200 yrs of knowledge from all parts of the world tgat was much older gone, it's happened many times we don't know about, what do you think we are missing because of this, and the controlled history we learn?

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John Strang

5/10/2017 03:40:32 am

now watching vieira bros searching for giants. In the book "Sowers of Thunder" you will find a detailed account including the Tellegewi and Allagewi - american giants and the Ohio state records lists - all in the book.....pass it on...it includes the battles of the plains indians with them and the last remaining one being slain in California...also miners there dug one up...all in that same book....good hunting John

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