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The offense being run next year won't be philosophically different at all. Carthon will be the 3rd OC Kelly has worked under since joining the team. He has excelled under the past two. How Romeo described the offense, Kelly said it would be perfect for him, and he wants to play in it.

Does it matter?
This season is the rebuilding season anyway. No way no how are we getting to the playoffs. If Holcombe plays like crap, it actually is better for us. We might get a better look at Harris and McCown, and we'd most likely draft higher next year. Then, with next year's draft class of OT's predicted to be LOADED, we'd get a solid franchise OT._________________The Brownie: The best logo for the Cleveland Browns, EVER!

Let me correct myself. It will be philosophically different, because they are actually going to have an identity. Which will be running the ball. The signing of New Orleans' running backs coach should make a huge difference. With the Saints, he coached 5 consecutive 1000 yard backs, a franchise record. He knows how to use Terelle Smith, so that in and of itself should make Browns fans giddy with excitement.

Yeah and it ticks me off that we use Terrelle Smith in one game... and look what happened... We had 2 100 yard rushers in that game... against PHILADELPHIA, but it's awfully smart of Butch Davis to not use him anymore in the year...

I don't know about that last one, but I'd expect Romeo to clear house of all those who don't get with the program. The new coaches on the staff are a huge upgrade from the previous group. The O-line and RB coaches alone have me thinking 1200+ for Suggs (if he stays healthy).

^ and Robo isn't even making the calls this year, as WR coach.
I really am inclined to believe that the Browns will go 6-10, somewhere around there, with a mediocre QB. Good back, better line, better D, less time on field for D (meaning less injuries on D and ST) all will happen this year; I believe. Hell, we could start Mike Pawlowski (Former XFL QB w/ the Demons and current AFL QB) and win a few.
I'm already excited about 2006.

Confidence in a Cleveland sports team....
haven't felt this... ever_________________The Brownie: The best logo for the Cleveland Browns, EVER!

I think we will draft a DE. But it won't be to play with his hand down. Most of the LBs on New England's defense played DE in college. We will be looking for pass-rushing tweeners to play OLB. The Patriots have 10 linebackers on the roster. We have 7 (I think), and that's not considering that some may be cut due to not fitting the system. There is speculation about switching Courtney Brown to OLB (in the Derrick Thomas mold). If that is how they think he can be effective than I'm all for it, but that still doesn't rule out drafting a college DE to switch to OLB.

Andra Davis, Kevin Bentley, Chaun Thompson, Ben Taylor, Barry Gardner, Eric Westmooreland, Warrick Holdman, Brant Boyer, Mason Unck - 9. Most, if not all, of those guys will stay around (Unck is good on special teams, Boyer would be the first to go).
And if you're arguing that we'll move Spears to LB, then that's essentialy drafting a LB, so there._________________The Brownie: The best logo for the Cleveland Browns, EVER!

Bentley and Taylor are both restricted free agents. Eric Westmoreland and Warrick Holdman are unrestricted free agents. Brant Boyer, however, will be around until he retires. So actual signed linebackers on the roster actually are: Davis Thompson Gardner Boyer Unck. 5.

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Most, if not all, of those guys will stay around (Unck is good on special teams, Boyer would be the first to go).
And if you're arguing that we'll move Spears to LB, then that's essentialy drafting a LB, so there

I am in no way arguing anything about Spears. Moving a 300 pound guy to linebacker is not a good idea. The only type of player that we would draft to play the line is a big NT. Spears won't help us that much. Shawne Merriman, Demarcus Ware, Justin Tuck....now any one of those would make a huge difference on this D.

But you're right, essentially we'd be drafting a LB with any of those. But they were DEs in college. So that is why you can't say we're not going to draft a DE.

You could make the playoffs. Crennell will make sure that team is
prepared and physical.
He will also make sure these guys don't make the kind of
mistakes that kill themselves and you'll see a team that
plays 4 quarters and never stops fighting no matter the lack of big
names they field.

^the browns won't make the playoffs this year behind Kelly Holcombe or a rookie QB.
Crennel and co. will make strides, though.
Rebuilding a team takes time, it is not going to happen in one offseason._________________The Brownie: The best logo for the Cleveland Browns, EVER!

Davis sucked way more than eggs. The new staff will make a huge difference. But talking playoffs is a bit presumptuous. Savage and Crennel both asked for patience turning this thing around. The organization had to be completely rebuilt in one off-season, so don't expect immediate results. It may take one or two years for this team to completely buy into the system, and to get all the necessary players (and weed out the unnecessary) to run it right.

The Browns will not start the season with Holcomb or a rookie QB. Rohan Davey, Chris Simms, or Billy Volek are the only trade rumors I've heard of. I'm sure there's more young backups with strong arms being looked at.