An ISIS claiming an American hostage was killed in Syria. They`re saying she died in a Jordanian airstrike, buried underneath the rubble of a building. But the U.S. has not been able to confirm any of this information. There is zero proof.

A Jordanian official calling it quote "illogical and highly skeptical."

Earlier today the hostage`s family released her name and these photos of her. Kayla Mueller is a 26-year-old aid worker from Arizona. She dedicates her life to others. ISIS kidnapped her in 2013 while she worked at a doctors without borders hospital in Syria.

One senior defense official telling NBC News the entire intelligence community is working to gather the facts. U.N. ambassador Susan Rice says the U.S. is obviously concerned.

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SUSAN RICE, U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: We do not at the present have any evidence to corroborate ISIL`s claims but obviously will keep reviewing the information at hand.

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SHARPTON: Joining me now is Michael Sheehan, and -- joining me now is Keir Simmons.

Keir, a Jordanian official called this a PR stunt. And another called it illogical. We know they are masters of propaganda. What are you hearing?

KIER SIMMONS, NBC NEWS FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT: Reporter: That`s right. Al, in fact, they call it criminal propaganda and they are saying, the basic thing they are saying, they don`t know whether this ISIS claim is true or not. After all, we are talking about Raqqa, a stronghold of ISIS in Syria. Really difficult to authenticate it.

But what the Jordanians are saying is why would you trust a group that beheads innocent people on camera, that execute a Jordanian pilot by setting him on fire alive? Why would you trust them when to claim that she had been killed, it seems, very convenient for them to be able to claim that with no one able to say whether it`s true or not.

SHARPTON: Now, this comes after a Jordanian pilot was burned to death by is, as you mentioned.

SIMMONS: Right.

SHARPTON: The Jordanian sing said they will fight until they run out of fuel and bullets. How does that play into this situation?

SIMMONS: That`s absolutely right. King Abdullah saying they will go after ISIS wherever they are, and it is an incredible turn of events before the news tonight. Because what we saw today before that was thousands of Jordanians on the streets supporting this offensive against ISIS, and that was just a few days since the father of that pilot had questioned why Jordan was involved in this fight, saying it isn`t this country`s fight to have.

So what happened with the pilot appears to have swung public opinion here in Jordan, at least for the time being, and in a really important way and changed the dynamics. Again, though, ISIS with this announcement appears to be trying to shift public opinion once again, both in this region and perhaps even in the U.S.

SHARPTON: Well, great reporting. Thank you so much, Keir Simmons. Thank you for your reporting this evening.

SIMMONS: You bet.

SHARPTON: Joining me now are Michael Sheehan, former head of special operations at the Pentagon, and Hardin Lang, an ISIS expert from the center of American progress. Thank you both for being here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good to be here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My pleasure.

SHARPTON: Michael, there`s no proof either way here. How do we verify this? I mean what can they do?

MICHAEL SHEEHAN, COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: Well, it`s going to be difficult for us to verify it. But the history of ISIS normally when they verify someone`s dead they`ll show the body or the killing. And I think this -- I`m very skeptical in this case that they`ve actually, that this bombing run killed this woman. She may be already dead as was the case with the Jordanian pilot. They were negotiating when he was already dead or perhaps still holding her. But I`m very, very skeptical, this very convenient claim that this Jordanian bombing raid killed this very innocent young aid work.

SHARPTON: Why so skeptical, Michael? Why?

SHEEHAN: Very skeptical.

SHARPTON: Why?

SHEEHAN: Because it`s just convenient. They`re trying to blame the Jordanians for killing of this young woman they had kidnapped over a year and a half, who was an innocent aid worker, trying to shift the blame to this Jordanian bombing and it`s just -- it`s just not working. That type of propaganda just not working. And even if they did kill her by this bombing raid, they`re still responsible for holding her hostage, an innocent aid worker. So I`m just got not buying it.

SHARPTON: Hardin, what intelligence did we have about the hostage?

HARDIN LANG, CENTER OF AMERICAN PROGRESS: We have been pretty thin so far in terms of what kind of information is out there in the open source. The type of intelligence we`ve got about the hostage.

So I think at this stage it`s probably better not to speculate on what kind of Intel we did or did not have, but only to note that the U.S. and Jordan would have been sharing whatever they did have up to the minute before, during, after the bombing raid.

So I don`t think that`s the issue there. But I would like to underscore what Mike just said. I mean, to me, this feels very much like a Hail Marry on the part of ISIS to try to create a bit of tension between the U.S. and Jordan after the major misstep of burning the Jordanian pilot alive and the kind of impact does hurt on their credibility on the streets of Jordan. So my sense here is they`re stumbling.

SHARPTON: Will other nations become defiant like King Abdullah has in Jordan in your opinion, Hardin?

LANG: What they`ve done in Jordan no doubt will reverberate beyond the borders of Jordan. This pushes back very against the narrative that ISIS putting out there, that they`re sort of fighting on the behalf of Sunni, and burning a Jordanian Sunni Arab pilot to death isn`t playing well anywhere in the region.

SHARPTON: What do you think, Michael? Will other nations become defiant like King Abdullah has?

SHEEHAN: Well, unfortunately, we have seen a few kind of back away a little bit worrying that they may get some of their pilots captured.

But I can tell you this, Reverend Al. The U.S. air force is going to continue bombing, and bombing the crap out of ISIS. And this, although, they cannot win with an air campaign as everyone has spoken. ISIS will suffer. If they try to master troops, we will be bomb them. IF they try to conduct training areas, we will bomb them. If they have safe areas, we bomb them. If they communicate, we`ll hear them and bomb them. No, we can`t defeat them with an air campaign, but we can really damage them and make them pay.

LANG: Well, we`ve seen a pretty big impact on the Iraqi side of the border. Michael`s right again here that when this bombing has maximum impact. When it`s paired with partners on the ground. So what we began to see is a bit of rollback on the Iraqi side where we are working with the Kurdish Peshmerga. And there was some Iraqis security forces which is slowly being stood back up after the summer`s offensive.

So the combination of air and land in Iraq there has made a big difference. On the Syrian side of the border, air power alone really -- I mean, it`s disruptive and it keeps them off balance. But it`s not changing the strategic or tactical momentum.

SHARPTON: Michael, you mentioned about Kayla, the hostage here that allegedly has been killed according to ISIS. She started working for aid group in the border of Turkey and Syria in 2012. In August of 2013, she was taken captive in Syria, leaving a doctors without borders hospital and May 2014 was the first time her family was contacted to prove Kayla was alive. What kind of intelligence did we have about her before today?

SHEEHAN: Well, at one point it seems now we`re hearing reporting we did think we knew where he location was, Reverend Al, and a special operations forces launched an attack to try to rescue her. But it appears we arrived a little late and she`d been moved to another location.

It`s very difficult to find someone like this. They`re probably moving her from place to place. And right now, we`re not even sure she`s alive. Although at the time we launched that attack a while back, we did have evidence she was alive. Hopefully she still is alive and we`ll be able to bring her to safety but it`s going to be very difficult.

SHARPTON: Hardin, the information that is unfolding, we have U.N. ambassador Susan Rice discuss the U.S. plan ton handling is today. Listen?

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RICE: To degrade and ultimately defeat ISIL, we`ve assembled a broad coalition that is confronting this scourge from all angles, from training Iraqi security forces and supporting the moderate Syrian opposition to encourage in political reforms in Iraq that foster greater inclusion.

With the world united in condemnation of its horrific executions, ISIL should know their barbarism only fortifies the world`s collective resolve.

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SHARPTON: Where is this fight going, Hardin? I mean, are we getting closer to troops on the ground?

LANG: I hope we`re not. I think the sense is here, and I think it pretty much cuts against the DNA of this administration to look at putting troops into a combat role here. Obviously, that doesn`t apply to special operators. Because we are going to hear a lot about what they`re doing or not doing. But the senses here, I mean in Iraq, again, we`re beginning to make some progress. I think the national security adviser made a really good point, though, about needing to keep pace, having the politics keep pace with what we`re doing on the ground militarily. The Sunni outreach in Iraq needs to continue beyond just a bit of appointment of the new secretary of defense over there in Sunni.

SHARPTON: Michael Sheehan and Hardin Lang, thank you both for your time this evening.

SHEEHAN: Thank you.

LANG: Thank you.

SHARPTON: Straight ahead, President Obama on the road touting a big day for jobs and the economy.

Plus, jurors in the Aaron Hernandez murder trial tour his home, and hear a bizarre joke in court today. Please, stay with us.

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SHARPTON: Republicans say President Obama is a job killer. But the facts say he`s overseen the best run of job growth in American history. Who do the American people trust on this? That`s next.

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SHARPTON: Now to developing economic news, and the immense pressure on Republicans to finally abandon some tired talking points. Today a strong new jobs report extending the historic record of success under President Obama. We`ve now had 59 straight months of private sector job growth. The longest streak on record.

2014 was the best year for job growth in 15 years. The last three months have been the best run in 17 years, and the country has added over 200,000 jobs in each of the last 12 months. The best run in 20 years.

It`s great news for American families, and bad news for Republicans stuck on false talking points about how the president`s policies are supposedly destroying jobs.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- and all of these job-killing regulations that have become prolific in this administration.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obamacare which has become such a job killer in our economy.

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SHARPTON: They`ve been repeating these claims for year, and it`s time to retire them once and for all.

Today President Obama was in Indiana where he talked about the country`s recovery from the devastating Bush recession, and the need to move forward.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The reason we`ve gotten out of this recession over the last six years, is in part, I`m going to brag a little bit. We made some good decisions. We have made the decision to save the auto industry. We made the decision to stabilize the financial system.

We made a bunch of decisions to do infrastructure spending.

America is poised for another good year. Indianapolis is poised for another good year, as long as Washington works to keep this progress going.

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SHARPTON: Joining me now are Jared Bernstein and Jonathan Capehart. Thank you both for being here.

JARED BERNSTEIN, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you, Rev.

JONATHAN CAPEHART, OPINION WRITER, THE WASHINGTON POST: Thank, Rev.

SHARPTON: Jared, on this specific idea the president is pushing right now that can continue and expand this economic progress.

BERNSTEIN: Right. Well, I was listening to your introduction, I was reminded of that old movie where has someone said, paraphrasing, that word "job killer" I don`t think it means what you think it means. Right?

The president is recognizing that in part because of policies that he has his fingerprints all over. The Federal Reserve has been helpful, of course, that we`ve achieved a steady GDP growth and that economic recovery has reliably and clearly reached the job market.

Over the past three months, we created over 300,000 jobs. You go back a year, that same metric would be 200,000. So not only we are creating jobs, we are doing so at a faster pace. If you look at the recent policy agenda that the president is talking about in his budget, whether it is infrastructure, whether it is help with child care, second earned deduction, expanding the earned income credit, these are ideas that are designed to help more of that growth reach more people. And that`s a critical piece of this that he would like to work on.

It is very important as he suggested that Congress not screw up the momentum we have, but I also would like to see them aspire to do more on this reconnection front.

SHARPTON: Well, and it`s been done basically create jobs in the private sector, not the public sector. If the Congress would pass public sector legislation in terms of infrastructure or something, we would see even more jobs and in areas that still have double-digit unemployment, like African-Americans and the like?

BERNSTEIN: Yes, certainly. And I think that`s, again, you`re thinking about it the same way the president is and I am, which is, we definitely have a recovery that`s reaching the job market. I think that`s unquestionable at this point. So now we have to start looking at outstanding problems. Things that still need work. The inequality story. The fact that certain groups still face high unemployment rates. Wages aren`t growing quickly. Those kind of things.

SHARPTON: Jonathan, what`s harder for the GOP? To concede the president was right on the economy or keep straight face while attack the economic record he has?

CAPEHART: It`s harder for them to concede.

Look, no matter how good the news is, there are certain folks in the Republican caucus who are so irrational, that they can`t conceivably give the president any kind of credit for what he`s been able to accomplish, and the good jobs numbers that came out today.

You know, I recall when President Bush was president, every time there was a good jobs report, every time there was a good piece of economic news, it was proof that president`s policies were working.

Well, if that`s the case under President George W. Bush, then it certainly should be the case under President Obama, especially since when we came into office the economic hell he inherited and had to stave off to save the national economy, but the global economy at the same -- also. And now here we are six years later having the best economic recovery we`ve had in a very long time, great jobs numbers. Gas prices are still -- they`re inching back up, but still low. Unemployment ticked back up. But Jared can correct me, it could be that more people are getting into the job markets looking for jobs and they`ll find them.

SHARPTON: Well, also in addition to that, Jared, one of the headlines from today`s jobs report that I struck -- struck my eye was the average hourly wages are up a half a cent -- a half of a percent, rather. It`s the biggest monthly gain for hourly wages in six years. How do we keep wages going that way?

BERNSTEIN: Well, I think the answer that that question is that we stay on this accelerated track in terms of improved job growth. People coming back into the labor market and finding more work.

Now, if you look year over year, which is the way I like to measure these wage trends, wages are up 2.2 percent. That`s kind of around where they`ve been. But as Jonathan mentioned, inflation now and because of this energy price spike, it`s the (INAUDIBLE) inflation has been growing at less than one percent. So we now have achieved real hourly wage growth.

In order for this recovery to reach some of the folks we talking about before, who had really, it really hasn`t reached enough yet, we have to remain steady at the helm. Congress can`t get into -- I mean, this fiscal cliff or debt default deals or highway trust fund screw-ups. We`ve got to keep tightening the job market because we`re not at full employment yet but moving in that direction.

SHARPTON: But Jonathan, isn`t that part of the real story that with all of the obstruction, the president has been able to deliver every month over and over and over again to where now he`s set a record, and he`s done this facing a head wind not a back wind that is pushing it along?

CAPEHART: Right. It speaks to the president`s skill. I remember for the last six years we`ve been talking about, or at least here in the Washington bubble, all of this talk about how the president is hapless. How the president can`t seem to work with Congress. How the president isn`t getting anything done. How the president is being thwarted in every direction to do anything about the economy. Why won`t he focus on jobs? Why won`t he focus on the financial health of the American people?

Well, we`re now seeing that once again we have a president who is a long-ball player and doesn`t get distracted by the cacophony of the everyday news cycle. He is focused on achieving the goal and the goal is being achieved.

SHARPTON: Jared Bernstein and Jonathan Capehart, thank you for your time. Have a good weekend.

BERNSTEIN: You too, Rev.

CAPEHART: Thanks, Rev. You, too.

SHARPTON: Still ahead a bizarre joke in the Aaron Hernandez murder trial. The judge was -- not amused.

Also, our special interview with the president`s former body man, Reggie Love.

But first -- what do Rand Paul, Pete Carroll and Left Shaw have in common? They are coming up in Rev. Al`s report card, next.

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ANNOUNCER: It`s time now for Reserved Al`s weekly report card.

SHARPTON: Let`s get to it. It was a huge controversy in the midst of a measles outbreak, Senator Rand Paul questioned vaccines.

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SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: I`ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. I`m not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. I think they`re a good thing.

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SHARPTON: Then came the damage control, saying he`s not sure if he`s different from the president on vaccines, and tweeting a picture getting a booster shot. Senator Paul gets a double F for flip-flop for his double-talk on vaccines.

Next up, super bowl grades. I struggled how degrades Seahawks coach Pete Carroll thought would be a WCE, for worst call ever, but then this happened.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you allowed yourself to have that one moment lying in bed where the tears flowed, where you`re smiling at me, but I mean it. Has there been that moment?

PETER CARROLL, SEAHAWKS HEAD COACH: That happened at that 4:05 mark.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tuesday morning?

CARROLL: Yes. That`s what I do as a break where I allowed, you know, allowed all of the rush of it to hit.

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SHARPTON: Now, he should have run the ball. But he gets an A for admirable for speaking up and admitting he cried.

But the highest grade of the week, it goes to this guy. Katy Perry`s dancing left shark. He may not have had the moves right at the super bowl, but he sure danced into our hearts. The left shark gets an A-plus for a great performance.

AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST, "POLITICS NATION": Time for the "Justice Files." Joining me now our legal analyst Eric Guster and Seema Iyer. Thank you both for being here.

SEEMA IYER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Thanks, Rev.

ERIC GUSTER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Thanks for having us.

SHARPTON: We start with the Aaron Hernandez murder trial. The former football star had plead not guilty in the death of Odin Lloyd who was dating the sister of his fiancee. Today, jurors toured Hernandez home where the defense was ordered to remove religious images and sports memorabilia. From the days that he was with the Patriots, prosecutors say these were added after the crime. And what they claim was an attempt to sway the jury.

Seem, would jurors really view Hernandez better because they see football jerseys or religious images? I mean, does that sort of thing work?

IYER: Rev, wouldn`t you? Seeing him at the football hero that he was. Seeing pictures of Jesus and Mary just appropriately placed. That`s going to give him more of an heir of likability and of course it`s going to sway the jurors. The jurors need to see Aaron Hernandez as someone`s son, as someone`s teammate, as someone that they can fall in love with.

GUSTER: Yes. And someone who wouldn`t hurt anyone. And that`s why a lot of defendants, you see them carry bibles into the courtroom trying to influence the jury and judge.

IYER: Well, that`s because the defense tells them to.

GUSTER: No, absolutely not.

SHARPTON: Well, let me ask you this, Eric. This week we also saw the judge warn the victim`s mother not to cry on the witness stand while looking at photos of her dead son. Listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: To retain control of your emotions and not to cry while you`re looking at any photo that may be shown to you. Do you understand that?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Yes, ma`am.

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SHARPTON: I mean, telling a grieving mother, Eric, that she can`t show emotion on the stand. Is that a reasonable request?

GUSTER: It`s a tough request. Because what the judge is trying to do is make sure that any emotional reference does not influence the jury. Because sometimes people get very emotional which this is an emotional case. Her son is --

SHARPTON: You`re looking at pictures of your son.

GUSTER: Yes. And it`s a very emotional case. And that`s why the judge is trying to make sure that Aaron Hernandez gets a fair trial and doesn`t have any room for appeal.

IYER: However, Eric and I were fighting about this in the make-up room because that infringes upon testimony, that is the judge telling a witness how to testify. Crying on the stand, Rev, is equivalent a certain type of testimony. For instance, in the transcript, if a witness can`t enunciate their words, the reporter would say, sobbing or crying and --

GUSTER: But judge would tell them to eliminate any emotional reference.

IYER: Oh, come on! And it works?

GUSTER: Yes. You cannot allow emotion to taint your verdict.

SHARPTON: Now I see what all that screaming I was hearing in the makeup room. Let me ask you something else, Seema. Yesterday while examining a witness Hernandez`s lawyer actually made a joke in court about the deflate-gate football scandal. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: One of the things you receive specialized training in is tire deflation, tire deflation devices. Right?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: A certain kind of tire deflation device, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Okay. Did you ever receive training in football deflation devices?

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SHARPON: I mean, the judge later reprimanded the lawyer and he apologized but what was he thinking?

IYER: No, Rev. I think it`s completely appropriate to bring some levity even in the most serious cases. I cannot stand judges whose don`t let me make jokes. Rev, you know I like to make jokes, you know, I`m very funny and you know I like to do my shtick in front of the jury.

GUSTER: But Rev, as a defense lawyer, you`re dealing with the murder trial, you`re trying to lighten the mood as much as you can because it`s so somber. You have a mother crying and --

SHARPTON: So that`s part of an attorney`s strategy?

GUSTER: Absolutely. It`s a very serious case. Everyone knows that, but you want to lighten the mood as much as can you, because the matter is so serious about a man being killed and you want the jury to have a lighter sense of what`s going on, and to pay attention to the testimony, not all the emotion.

SHARPTON: All right. Let me switch gears here. The 15 minutes of fame for a left shark may be coming to a close. At least if Katy Perry`s lawyers have anything to say about it. Left shark rose to instant internet fame during the Super Bowl half time show for being out of sync and at times creating his own choreography during the Katy Perry performance. Now someone, not the guy inside the shark suit, has made a 3D printable left shark figurine, and Katy`s lawyers are not happy. They sent a letter to the sculptor demanding he cease and desist, claiming they own the rights to left shark. Now the sculptor has launch ad GoFundMe page to raise legal funds to fight the case. Seema, can Katy Perry really claim the copyright to left shark?

IYER: No. She cannot. And this is bullying. And there`s no other way to say it. The man who`s making these 3D objects, he doesn`t know, or maybe doesn`t have the money to hire a lawyer to tell them that he`s not violating any copyright infringement laws?

SHARPTON: You agree, Eric?

GUSTER: I totally agree. This is a big law firm trying to pick on the little guy. Shame on them for doing that. And they should be sanctioned for that because they didn`t have a copyright to this. So, how can you tell someone to cease and desist if you don`t have the copyright to this left shark?

IYER: Because it`s not part of the artist`s work. Right? The work is actually the --

GUSTER: The music and the --

IYER: The music and the show that she put on. But it`s like a costume. A costume is not able to be copyrighted.

SHARPTON: And certainly what the shark did, left shark did they didn`t even know they were going to do. That wasn`t choreographed.

IYER: Right. They`re not copyrightable either.

GUSTER: Yes, they didn`t know. It became famous by mistake and now they`re trying to, Katy Perry and her folks trying to take advantage of it.

IYER: I think she`s jealous.

GUSTER: Left shark and Missy Elliot.

IYER: Yes.

SHARPTON: All right. I`m going to have to leave it there. Eric Guster and Seema Iyer, thank you both for your time and have a good weekend.

IYER: Thanks, Rev.

GUSTER: Thank you.

SHARPTON: Be sure to watch Seema on "The Docket" on shift by MSNBC.

Coming up, Mike Huckabee`s footloose past. How he turned his old opposition to dancing into a new attack on the president.

And the so-called chief of stuff. Reggie Love was by the President`s side for five years. Tonight he tells all from the President`s trash talk to a Jay-Z encounter at the White House. Stay with us.

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SHARPTON: Time now for "Conversation Nation." Joining us tonight, HuffPost Live host Alyona Minkovski. Senior editor of Mic.com Liz Plank and political editor for "Roll Call" Shira Center. Thank you all for being here tonight.

ALYONA MINKOVSKI, HUFFPOST LIVE HOST: Thanks, Rev.

LIZ PLANK, MIC.COM SENIOR EDITOR: Thank you, Rev.

SHARPTON: First up, Mike Huckabee is getting a lot of 2016 attention, and BuzzFeed dug up this blast from the past in high school. Huckabee wrote in a newspaper column, quote, "I strongly recommend that Christian teens stay away from dancing." No dancing? Where do I know that from?

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So people thought it was a little corny, but not really a story. But Huckabee responded by saying, other candidates use drugs as teenagers, and he couldn`t resist throwing this in.

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MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: I mean I just had to say, is this really controversial? I`d much rather defend this than I had to say, yes, I used to regularly be part of the choom gang. Just bizarre.

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SHARPTON: The choom gang is what President Obama and his friends called themselves in high school when they smoked marijuana. Shira, is this how Republicans get traction? They go after the President?

SHIRA CENTER, POLITICAL EDITOR "ROLL CALL": I do think that is generally how republicans running in the primary for president are getting traction these days. But it`s pretty clear Mike Huckabee is not angling for any kind of youth vote here or really any vote under the age of 65. He is solely trying to compete for the old white votes, Christian vote in the south and if that`s his m.o., you know, that`s what he`ll going to do. More power to him.

SHARPTON: Shira?

PLANK: Well, I think what this shows is that Mike Huckabee is, I mean, profoundly uncool, and you know, to your point, he`s not going to be reaching the youth vote. He`s not going to be reaching millennials. But millennials are profoundly important to the future of the Republican Party. They`re going to be an important demographic to reach for the 2016 race. So this is not only not reaching -- I think even donors who are looking at him talking about Beyonce or bacon or dance parties, he`s going to have to talk about issue, policies. What is he going to be doing in 2016 if he`s running other than banning everything that`s like cool?

SHARPTON: And this is after the Beyonce fiasco as well, Alyona?

MINKOVSKI: That`s right. I think Mike Huckabee has a little bit of foot and mouth disease, not only this flat shame Beyonce but as Liz pointed out there, he compared gay marriage to cussing, and then said that it was like making Jews serve up bacon-wrapped shrimp. So, clearly he`s just trying to deflect at this point, right? Because he`s just getting a bad wrap or things that he said in the past. But I personally don`t think what we need to focus on, things that people wrote or said or thought or believed in high school so much. We all go through phases, we all change our minds. Mike Huckabee`s beliefs and his beliefs that are anti-woman and anti-reproductive health and anti-LGBT community are what`s much more damaging today.

SHARPTON: I agree with that. Now to Harvard University. Banning professors for having sexual or romantic relationships with undergraduates. Several of the schools including Yale and the University of Connecticut are doing the same. Liz, it`s 2015. Why are we only seeing this ban now?

PLANK: Look, I think a lot of people thought that this ban already existed.

SHARPTON: Yes.

PLANK: I`m very glad that it`s being implemented. Directly and officially. But as a person who has spent time in academia I can tell you -- I mean, I don`t know a single woman who hasn`t been or experienced some form of sexual harassment. Some form of, these romantic relationships are not always consensual and there`s a lot of power dynamics happening, right? When you`re under and working under a supervisor it`s very difficult for you to maybe refuse these advances that make you uncomfortable. And actually, seven out of ten women who have worked in academia have experienced some form of it. And it`s often coming from supervisors. It`s often coming from people who are in position of power. So we really need to address this power dynamic, especially with undergraduate students.

SHARPTON: Let me go to you, Alyona.

MINKOVSKI: I disagree more just that a ban is the right way to go about things. It`s kind of like putting an band-aid on an issue or just trying to sweep it under the rug. If the problem is sexual harassments and the way that you have people trying to exploit their power and use it over younger people, or those that are, you know, they are professor or two, then you should actually address the culture. You should talk about that instead of just banning it. Not to mention, you know, who knows what might happen on college campuses? These are also people who are adults. Not everybody who`s an undergraduate is 17 or 18 years old and they should be able to make their own choices about consensual relationships.

SHARPTON: But that bringing the question Shira, does it have to be a policy?

CENTER: Well, does it have to be a policy? I think it probably should be written down, at least for the university`s own protection, right? That this is not something they condone or that should be in any cases committed. But look, if I remember correctly in undergraduate years, you know, professors are one case but I think the ban also addresses relationships between teaching assistants and graduate assistants with students and those people really work much more closely with students on the whole. And I think that protection is probably more important in the end.

SHARPTON: Yes, but I think the point is that it`s only now a policy and we`ve seen so much down through the years. All right. Let me leave it there, Alyona and Liz and Shira. Thank you for joining "Conversation Nation" tonight. Have a great weekend.

MINKOVSKI: You, too Rev.

PLANK: Thank you.

CENTER: Thanks.

SHARPTON: We`ll be right back with President Obama`s former body man, Reggie Love.

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SHARPTON: For years Reggie Love was President Obama`s body man. Perhaps the only person in history whose basketball skills were mocked in the Rose Garden.

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PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: I play with Reggie now, and when he`s on my team, I say to Reggie, was playing coach said, "don`t shoot." And when he`s on my team I say to Reggie, "don`t shoot." So things haven`t changed that much.

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SHARPTON: I talked to Reggie about his years at the President`s side, next.

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SHARPTON: They call him the body man, the person closest to the President. The President`s personal aide is a witness to history in the making. And for five years Reggie Love had the privilege of being one of the closest people to the president. Every single day. From Senator Obama`s 2008 campaign to his first years in the White House. The self-described chief of stuff said he was the President`s deejay, travel agent, messenger, punching bag, alarm clock, vending machine and his surrogate son.

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OBAMA: There are times where I`m not so calm. Reggie Love knows. My wife knows.

OBAMA: He is the guy who makes sure I`m in the right place at the right time. He hands me stuff right before I need it because otherwise I lose it. Yes. He is all-around great guy.

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SHARPTON: New memoir titled "Power Forward: My Presidential Education." He`s giving us a glimpse and to what it`s like to be one of the few to serve a president so closely.

Joining me now is Reggie Love. Reggie, thank you for being here.

REGGIE LOVE, AUTHOR, "POWER FORWARD": Reverend Sharpton, thank you for having me and thank you for that very generous introduction. I really appreciate that.

SHARPTON: Well, you`ve had quite an amazing journey. When you became his body man there was no training for the job. How did you keep up with the President in those early days?

LOVE: You know, I`ve got to tell you, it was pretty tough, but it was also inspiring to see a guy who`s more than half my age, you know, work as tirelessly and as on as few hours of sleep as he did, but you know, I write in the book, I definitely made a lot of mistakes. I tried not to make the same mistakes twice, and he -- he was -- and he was good with me as I was sort of going through those learning curves. He would always say that you know, in 2007, we were -- we were building the plane, while it was speeding down the runway. Ready for takeoff.

SHARPTON: Wow. Now, you and the President form a bond over basketball. How did that start?

LOVE: I remember the first time, you know, I got an e-mail from the senator, and it was about four months into the campaign, and it was -- it was late at night. I look at it, and it`s -- it`s Tony Parker`s stat line. And I -- you know, I have a huge grin and I kind of write back quickly, you know, that`s pretty good, but I insert Chris Paul Staten line which was a little bit better that night. It was the first interaction I was really kind of, you know, not related to sort of the daily grind of the campaign. And you know, he`s an avid basketball player. So we also played a little ball.

SHARPTON: When you play, do you let the President win?

LOVE: No, man. You cannot -- I mean, the guy, he talks so much trash.

SHARPTON: Yes.

LOVE: I mean, if he does win, or when he does win, it is -- it`s a long week. You`ve got -- you`re itching to get back out there to try to, to get another game in.

SHARPTON: Wow. You know, I obviously have seen you on many occasions, and in my visits to the President on my civil rights work. Did you ever -- I`d see you in a lot of these things that were historic. Did you ever pinch yourself to say, am I really here? Am I really a part of this?

LOVE: I mean, every day. You know, I remember one day, you know -- I got to meet, like, great people all the time. Like yourself, Reverend Jesse Jackson. You know, I met Kofi Annan walking into the west wing. I really was just -- an endless amount of amazing experiences that were able to shape me and to grow me and to be totally honest, it`s quite humbling to see all of these great men and all of the things that they`ve been able to achieve and all the value that they`ve been able to create for their communities. You know, it made me and continues to make me want to stay engaged and active in the political process.

SHARPTON: Wow.

LOVE: And you know, and to figure out how to, you know, to continue to create value for as many people as possible.

SHARPTON: Reggie, let`s do some rapid fire questions.

LOVE: Okay.

SHARPTON: Best working at the White House?

LOVE: Air Force One.

SHARPTON: Best food at the White House.

LOVE: The 44 burger and the waffle fries.

SHARPTON: Ah. Coolest place you went with the President?

LOVE: Oh, man. Such a -- the pyramids in Cairo.

SHARPTON: Favorite celebrity you met.

LOVE: Now, that`s a no-brainer. That`s Jay-Z.

SHARPTON: Finally, the biggest lesson you learned from working with President Obama?

LOVE: That`s a hard one. I learned a lot of them, but I think the thing that I will always take away from him is his ability to empathize with other people. You know, I told -- I told the story about how he had given -- he`d written an anonymous check a couple of times to people who are just like down on their luck that he`d met throughout the campaign and never made a story of it. You know, and there were points in times where it wasn`t even sure if he was going to be the nominee let alone president and you know, even at that early stage in the game, you know, he was really focused on how he could you know, make things a little better for people who have it a little worse off than he did.

SHARPTON: Wow. Reggie Love, thank you for your time this evening. Again the book is called "Power Forward: My Presidential Education."

LOVE: Well, thank you for having me. You`re a good man. And I appreciate all of your hard work and service, man.

SHARPTON: Thank you, Reggie. Thank you so much.

LOVE: All right. Take care.

SHARPTON: And I appreciate the humble as well as even spread of Reggie Love. It reminds me of the President himself and a lot of his team. Not getting too hot. Not getting too cold. Good days don`t make them too intoxicated with glory and bad days does not make them too depressed. If you have people like Reggie Love by your side, that can keep their head, they can grow. Take someone under your wing. Help them grow like Reggie Love did under the President.

Thanks for watching. I`m Al Sharpton. Have a good weekend. "HARDBALL" starts right now.

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