The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

* I parted ways with David Reed after he bounced around from the bottom of one depth chart to the bottom of another for a few years. I'm hoping that Williams or Boyce will fare better. I'm not optimistic about Jenkins, but at least he's not Baldwin.

TE
Anthony Fasano
Julius Thomas (Broncos)
Demetrius Harris

* I like the idea of converting a college basketball player to TE. In the meantime, I have a couple of serviceable to good vets.

Here's how my draft looked after the first year. I had a strong first round pick but then my draft nose dives pretty quickly in terms of first year production. Several players suffered injuries (or were drafted with injuries) and I have hope that some of them will bounce back and turn into nice players. Some of them look like pure busts.

1.13 (13) - Sheldon Richardson DT (Jets)

Finished as PFF's 5th rated 3-4 DE. Had 4 sacks and was a wall against the run. Lost a couple votes to Star Lotulelei on his way to winning DROY award. Not the biggest hole on my team, but despite losing Tyson Jackson this off-season it has become a strength. Grade: A

2.07 (39) - Cornellius Carradine DE (49ers)

Carradine spent his first season on injury lists and making no impact. Given the quality players ahead of him on the depth chart, he's likely to be a role player in 2014. If this pick is going to pan out, it's probably going to be another year away. For now... Grade: F

3.01 (63) - Terrance Williams WR (Cowboys)

Williams had a decent rookie season starting 8 games and catching 44 passes for 736 yards and 5 touchdowns. This was a huge hole for my team so that production was welcome. With a chance to go into the upcoming season as Dallas' #2 WR, we're hoping for a good sophomore season. Grade: B-

3.10 (72) - Terron Armstead OT (Saints)

Armstead started 2 games as a rookie and looks likely to take over as the Saints' starting LT this year. Not much rookie production for a 3rd round pick. Grade: D

3.34 (96) - Knile Davis RB

Davis rushed for 242 yards and 4 TDs in limited action behind Jamaal Charles. He had a pretty good game going in the playoffs after Charles went down with a concussion, but then then he broke. His injury riddled history has me very concerned. Grade: D+

4.02 (99) - Josh Boyce WR (Patriots)

Boyce was drafted with a toe injury so he got off to a slow start his rookie season. He started 3 games but only caught 9 passes for 121 yards. Grade: D+

5.01 (134) - Sanders Commings CB

Missed almost the entire season with injuries. Grade: F

5.08 (141) - Oday Aboushi OT (Jets)

Aboushi didn't see the field and will have an uphill battle for playing time in 2014 as far as I can tell. Grade: F

6.02 (170) - Ryan Swope WR (retired)

Retired. Grade: F

6.36 (204) - Vince Williams LB (Steelers)

Williams started 11 games as a rookie which seems like a win for a 6th rounder. Grade: B

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Early returns not good. Only played about 50% of offensive snaps and didn't crack 500 yards. Did show some flashes of the crazy athletic ability that got me to pick him, but also dropped too many passes. Possible McCluster-type, which would be disastrous as a high first round pick. Grade: D+

2-38: Geno Smith, QB (Jets)

Coming along quite nicely. Played all 16 games his rookie year. Struggled at times but finished relatively strong. I'll take it for a second round pick when my team is searching for it's franchise QB. Grade: B-

3-63: Travis Kelce, TE (Chiefs)

So far appears to be more fragile than Moeaki. Grade: F

3-96: Tyler Wilson, QB (Raiders)

Sweet merciful mother. Grade: F

5-134: Jesse Williams, DT (Seahawks)

Training Camp IR. Grade: F

6-170: John Boyett, S (Colts)

This is the guy who had the great story last September where he told cops, "You can't arrest me; I'm a Colts player" and then got cut right after. Naturally he is now a Denver Bronco, albeit as a practice squad player. Grade: F

6-204: Jordan Poyer, CB (Eagles)

Like Rainman said, he's still in the league and produced some as a rookie. I'll take the same grade: B-

Finished as PFF's 5th rated 3-4 DE. Had 4 sacks and was a wall against the run. Lost a couple votes to Star Lotulelei on his way to winning DROY award. Not the biggest hole on my team, but despite losing Tyson Jackson this off-season it has become a strength. Grade: A

Nice pick. I was a Star guy the whole way and never considered Richardson.

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Early returns not good. Only played about 50% of offensive snaps and didn't crack 500 yards. Did show some flashes of the crazy athletic ability that got me to pick him, but also dropped too many passes. Possible McCluster-type, which would be disastrous as a high first round pick. Grade: D+

2-38: Geno Smith, QB (Jets)

Coming along quite nicely. Played all 16 games his rookie year. Struggled at times but finished relatively strong. I'll take it for a second round pick when my team is searching for it's franchise QB. Grade: B-

3-63: Travis Kelce, TE (Chiefs)

So far appears to be more fragile than Moeaki. Grade: F

3-96: Tyler Wilson, QB (Raiders)

Sweet merciful mother. Grade: F

5-134: Jesse Williams, DT (Seahawks)

Training Camp IR. Grade: F

6-170: John Boyett, S (Colts)

This is the guy who had the great story last September where he told cops, "You can't arrest me; I'm a Colts player" and then got cut right after. Naturally he is now a Denver Bronco, albeit as a practice squad player. Grade: F

6-204: Jordan Poyer, CB (Eagles)

Like Rainman said, he's still in the league and produced some as a rookie. I'll take the same grade: B-

On the bright side, that draft would have scored an A++ with the ChiefsPlanet intelligentsia on the day after the draft.

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De: more youth than chiefs with selvie added
DT: stronger than chiefs with Cam Thomas
OLB bout the same as chiefs
ILB : stronger with spikes and DJ
Cb: same as chiefs
S: weaker cause no SS kendrick lewis

overall stronger than the chiefs in certain areas draft needs in no order TE, RT, qb, RB WR unlike the chiefs i'm good at DT.