2 Q Now, Mr. Haney, in the time that you have known
3 Bob Minton -- well, when is the last time you saw Bob
4 Minton?

5 A Probably June or July of 2000 -- oh, I saw him
6 very briefly in 2001. I don't remember when. Just at the
7 trust one time, for like five minutes. That is it.

8 Q Why did you leave the Lisa McPherson Trust?

9 A It became obvious that we were not going to work
10 on helping people, that it was basically Bob's little group
11 of people who were going to picket and do their best to
12 irritate Scientology.

13 Q Did you ever observe what Teresa Summers did at
14 the trust?

15 A Yes.

16 Q What was that?

17 A Mmm, she -- she was the only person I would say
18 that was actually trying to help people. She -- people who
19 wanted to get refunds from Scientology, she would help them
20 coordinate their complaints and send them to the right
21 places, first to Scientology itself. She made sure they
22 filled out the forms right and everything.

23 And then, if Scientology didn't respond, she would
24 send those complaints to other agencies, both state and
25 federal, I believe.