Altura, you will be interested in knowing that your Gov Perry was in Arkansas yesterday giving speeches at Lincoln Day dinners for the GOP. He is a humorous speaker and very easy to listen to. Gave a good talk about economic issues and energy in particular. Said any of the candidates who ran with him would be better than Obama as President. No disparaging attitude or words against the GOP or any individual. We went to the dinner specifically to hear him and were not disappointed. He urged support for taking back the senate and adding to the house etc. The voters at our table all support and will vote for, dare I mention, Mitt Romney. No caveats. Ages were us the oldest and a mid twenties newly wed couple, a single mid twenties lad and a mid forty lady and a mid forty couple. All educated and originally from different states so they still have connections to family and friends in various parts of the country. I mention all of this as I was mentally noting the various aspects of the voting for the coming election. I mostly listened and was glad to hear conversation that was upbeat. Quite interesting was the single woman who was an activist in the democrat party until several years ago and said she turned in her creds at some function because she realized that after a lifetime of being a democrat she had concluded she no longer had anything significant in common with the party that has turned totally socialist.Also interesting were the youngest three who support Ron Paul for his bringing attention to the constitution etc. and they will vote for him in the primary but for Mitt Romney in the general. Their feeling was that Paul is not the best choice for CIC. Since all of the individuals at our table had never met I was struck at how common our thinking was on the political situation and the necessity for voting Obama out asap.

It’ll also change when the Republican party when Ron Paul legalize dope/no war go home to the Democrat party. Also when some didn’t want late members to our caucus vote, I had that done with it all feeling, but I am staying to take over the Republican Party as a grass roots TEA Party movement, though I sometimes find myself to the right of them, I have time and God willing, can outwit any moderate/liberal thinkers.

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posted on 04/15/2012 10:29:07 AM PDT
by Son House
(The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)

Just be prepared for an economic freeze by summer 2013, say 2015 if it’s Romney, being he also doesn’t understand it’s take a Conservative Economic solution to get the economy moving, obsolete government benefits and the risk/reward of keeping what you work for as the freedoms coming from our US Constitution should permit and protect.

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posted on 04/15/2012 10:36:55 AM PDT
by Son House
(The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)

Fantastic find, AB. And these guys (AP and the drive-bys) are supposed to be the “attention to details” guys. What ever happened to the basic “WHO, what, where, when” questions that used to taught in the first semester of journalism school? Those four questions have been replaced by one: how can I write something that will further my organization’s propaganda agenda?

I’m praying our Romney haters live in states where it won’t make any difference. I appreciate their sentiments, but we’ll have to change the party from within the halls of Congress, or concede to socialism. One more progressive on the court and we’re screwed for the rest of our lifetimes.

I know of no one who’s left the TEA Party. With Obie’s abysmal record, and transparent desperation, we should clean house like ‘10.

It’s also occurred to me that Rick and Newt were more vunerable to Obie’s tactics. He has traditionally eliminated his competition with dirt. In the state legislature (Bobby Weed I believe), in the Senate (Jack Ryan). He didn’t quite eliminate Hillary, as much as beat her, but he had to use racism and white guilt to do it. The race card won’t work a second time, not with Eric Holder and Sharpton on the front pages creating race wars. It won’t be tolerated.

Whereas, Mitt and Ann look squeaky clean. They’ll be hard to eliminate. It’s not a good criteria for choosing candidates, I admit, but it’ll be reality and a positive if Romney is the nominee. TAGLINE

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posted on 04/15/2012 11:49:01 AM PDT
by chiller
(Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)

Mitt has been singing a conservative song on the campaign trail in the last week AFTER Newt/Rick basically conceded, which has surprised me.

He’s sounding strong and good, to my ear. I can’t see how or why Romney would back track.

Yes, I worry about him somewhat—more than I would with Rick or Newt—but since he’s now targeting Obie, I like what I’m hearing. Many here expect him to move moderately to the middle, but I haven’t heard it yet. As Rush has said, Romney will need to be dragged to the right, but I think he can be, and will be. The reality is he may be our nominee. TAGLINE

And Ann Romney is a secret weapon not to be overlooked. Everytime Moosshhel opens her mouth sshhe’ll be trumped by Ann, in sshhhpades

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posted on 04/15/2012 11:56:45 AM PDT
by chiller
(Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)

Rush BETTER straighten it out because he had s maintained all ali that anyone, even Mickey Mouse or Elmer Fudd, could beat The One. His point was to convince the GOPe to fairly allow a conservative to emerge. But he also covered any of the candidates. Well, Mr. Fudd it seems to be, so get movin’ Rushbo.

Building on the Tea Party structure and membership makes sense, but it has an indelible stigma of being “racist”. Peoples ask me, “Aren’t they racists?” with no idea what charges lie behind that. Very effective job by media and Dems. Then, no one wants to be a part of a racist organization [e.g. Boy Scouts shrunk over the homophobia label], especially when Janet Napolitano is ready to put them on a watch or no fly list along with veterans, Christians etc. It is a mess. The libs had to pick another name “progressive” because we did a good job beating up on the L word.

I try to be a grownup in my thinking. I also try not to be an overly emotional, loud-mouthed, profane jerk like so many on the Left are; it really hurts to see this happen on OUR side....

Bottom line is I cannot pick the nominee. I can vote for someone I believe would be the best—or not the worst—of the candidates. In my state primary I voted for Gingrich, would have voted for Herman Cain, but he was out by the time we had the vote, and really WANTED to vote for Sarah Palin but she never ran. In the end, Rick Santorum won my state.

Now it appears that the millions like me who have voted have chosen not who I wanted or voted for but rather Mitt Romney. What am I to make of this? The bottom line is he is winning more votes than the others. Despite all the rhetoric here he is winning.

So, I have several choices here. I can vote for him in November, or Obama, or a third party candidate not yet on the ballot. Or I could not vote at all or not vote for in the presidential race.

I intend to vote for the anybody but Obama (the Republican ticket).

I will not let others dictate my vote. I don't mind if they argue with me about it, but all I ask is they keep it clean and avoid the ad hominem and attacks on otherwise decent FReepers. The fact that the most powerful person here can say “FU” to a de facto FRiend because they would do as I just stated is tragic.

But I do recognize this is not my house and it is apparent that we are all here on the owner's hospitality. If tht is enforced over this elections—either going with the owner or you're zotted—then my 14 years of community here might well come to an end. I will not leave. I can be thrown out so if you don'r see me posting the thread anymore you'll know what happened!

Seems to me the only ones to win such a fight is the Left and the democrats.

Just be prepared for an economic freeze by summer 2013, say 2015 if its Romney

I am... I am.

To avoid it in any case, it will require radical amputation surgery of government spending, a boom in the economy, radical reform of the draconian regulatory systems, huge shrinking of the fat gov't payrolls and stuffed bureaucracies, and a major personnel housecleaning in the District of Corruption.

I don't see any of these happening under a compromiser like Romney. He is unlikely to take on all the establishment head-on. He'll just try and keep The Same Old Game going.

As Romney often says so flatteringly about 0bama, "He's a nice guy, but he's just out of his league!"

Dittos, Romney...

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posted on 04/15/2012 1:00:25 PM PDT
by Gritty
(Republics fall when the wise are banished because they dare to be honest - Justice Joseph Story)

Hey, Pat. I very much agree with you about A’rot and Valjar and the Hilary Rosen skank. I can't remember where I read A’Rot’s background, but he's a red diaper baby from day one totally on board the idealogy express.

Supposedly he is a loving family man, an extremely driven hard worker and very bright and organized. Plouffe works with him and has for a very long time and is also not stupid.

Too bad they care NOTHING for anyone else’s welfare or families or our country as originally founded including our history of incredible success WRT prosperity for anyone willing to work for it and our unprecedented personal freedom.

That they DO share with ValJar, but she is no where near as bright as they are though she is shrewd and deeply established in the filth of Chicago politics, opportunism and thuggery. That would include the others you named even the ones not from Chicago.

ROTFL about Carney saying he doesn't know which Hilary Rosen was a frequent visitor to the WH. I hadn't heard that, but it reminded me of John Huang back in the Clinton regime when they didn't know which John Huang anyone was referring to... Hysterical! Remember the SNL skit about which J. Huang was which. The first one was xxx (something bland) and the other one killed Vince Foster. Of course, JH was never even suspected of that, but it made me laugh till it hurt.

I also agree with your earlier post on the party. I'm working hard in my local party which has a lot of very good conservatives and sadly plenty of the other type. I'm in Arizona so I have a better shot at people like us taking over more of the party except that John McCain is still a huge force in the state. It's depressing, but we have a chance.

If we get Romney and he turns lefty (as I expect he will unless we LOAD the houses of Congress with TEA people), and if the Congress lets him do that, I'm third party at that time. I think it would finish us off to go third party right now, but we better start at the first sign of one partyism so we have a couple/few years to get established.

I'd be delighted if somehow Newt manages to prevail or if Romney is smart and honest enough to do what he promised. I have little hope for the latter except for the degree of betrayal, but I'd love to be surprised and will readily acknowledge it if that becomes the case.

Geithner is about out of bones. All he had today was more class warfare wrapped up in this necessary spending and that minute cut with a vow to never ever take away the lefts ability to buy votes by actually cutting the budget. Once again it was all Bush’s fault even though the Congress was all left since 2006 when things started the really going down.I guess being a leftist means never having to say you are sorry.Even a mental midget could take these guys out. They have absolutely nada to run on.

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posted on 04/15/2012 3:55:46 PM PDT
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)

Rush is playing the cycle very very carefully.He remains my spiritual leader and so far has done a stellar job, IMHO.
There is never a day he does not reinterpret what lies the left has thrown against the wall over the past few hours.

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posted on 04/15/2012 3:57:30 PM PDT
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)

To create yet another diversion for the sheeple. It’s like BHO et al via their media servants keep as many balls in the air as possible - to hyptnotize the mindless so they won’t notice what the guy off to the side of the stage is doing.

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