I wasn't as big of a fan of the plastic army guys but in my younger years I played with cowboys and indians.

I actually don't have ANY friends that play any form of table top games other than 1-2 TCG's so I never got to have all the fun that i've noticed in the shops.

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I never played 40k, though I have friends who still do, and I'm passably familiar with the general concepts of the game. I did play Battletech (not Mechwarrior) for many years, and if I had money to throw at something like that, and people to play it with, I'd likely pick it up again.

I played the "old" warhammer, never 40k.Altho i pretty much only painted and custom made models, never really played much, only thing we did were like scenarios or whatever they were called, as they only took an hour or two, rather than 2 evenings, but for that i had like 5times the army i needed xDGreat fun painting, gameplay was always so exciting in the beginning of a game, but got boring quickly for me atleast.

I played 40k for a while, generally playing Eldar (3rd & 4th Edition). The huge cost kind of puts you off, and probably the best way I got into it, was I was working part time at a game store and could buy the models at a discount. I stopped playing after, while at a store, I was stacking my foam and getting ready to my models back into it, to back into the transport, as some guy with a big backpack, swept all the foam and models right onto the floor making a giant cracked disjointed mess (Several hundreds worth of models/tanks). I hadn’t had the heart to put it back together and repair it since.

The capacity for huge battles was always interesting, and I like fielding units of specialists, which is what drew me to Eldar. Also the amusement of Falcons and Scorpion Squads with Farseers rerolling saves was hysterical watching them grind squads to a halt.

I have recently been looking at the Warmachine models a bit. I like the models, the smaller skirmish sizes seem easier to deal with, and it seems like a much smaller investment. The Privateer Press guys also put on a pretty good booth every year at Gen Con. I also like the setting a lot better.

Yeah, Warmahordes is a much lower investment of time and money. A lot of people I know are switching from 40k to that just because you can spend less than half of what you have to for a 40k army and still be competitive.

I don't get it though - people talk about the "high cost of playing" but there's really not much of a cost beyond the initial outlay. You can spend $5-600 and get a decent army, then why buy more? And if you do, why not buy it slowly, like $40 here and there instead of all at once.

Boggles the mind.

There's a guy in my gaming group that has a 3d printer. It cost him $23k. He probably could've bought everything in the model line for his army (he plays Tau) and had thousands left over for that price.

- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.- A Sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the hell is going on.- A demolitions specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.

5-600$ for a decent army is pretty damn much imo for a small hobby, sure if you are going to play it for years to come, it for sure is going to be well worth it.Then paint/spray, pencils, modification tools and books etc adds up to even more.Its one of those hobbies you have to invest a bit in when you start, then if you keep at it its obviously going to be worthwhile.

Most elite units can run about 5 per model, 10 for a champion, so about 55. You can have up to three.

Heavy Support , is usually between 40 and 60 depending on what you are using (Dreads are on the lower scale, high end tanks like Landraiders are on the upper). You can have up to three.

“Fast” units can run about 5 per model or 10 for a champion; OR 40-60 for the squad depending on if it’s individual units, or if it’s a squad of vehicles, like bikers. You can have up to three.

HQ units can be between 20 and 50 just by themselves, including retinue. You can have up to two.

If you are doing bare minimum of 2 Infantry and an HQ, sure it’ll be cheap (And by cheap, you’re looking about US$150 for rules, and units). But if you’re trying to put together your army, or want to do anything or change it up some (Use an extra elite, bring an extra Heavy Support, play around with Fast, etc) these all cost money, and a lot of it. Worse, is that some units to get a ‘full’ unit you may need multiple boxed sets. It can add up to a lot of money. US$500-600 is a lot to frontload for a hobby that isn’t even close to ready to play yet, since you are supposed to paint and mod them all (WYSIWYG) before they even are placed on the table. And it’s hard to justify ‘little’ purchases of US$40-50 to start with when you can’t come close to actually playing with them yet and all you’re doing is buying them to paint until some point in the future.

Worse, is when codex or core rules change completely redoing things with the game. Units that used to be terrible might suddenly become extremely potent, or vice versa nullifying all the work you had just done. Hell some armies might just be completely eliminated (Several Eldar craftworlds like Ulthwe or Biel Tan, some marine chapters or Chaos including the ever popular Iron Warriors, etc) meaning that your army doesn’t even exist anymore.

Actually, you can get the boxed starter set for $90 and get 2 HQs and 4 troop choices, plus the core rulebook. Then another $50 for the two codexes (up to $60 actually - the books are $25 or $30, depending on the army).

If you don't want to get the starter set, you're looking at $70 for the core rulebook alone.

- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.- A Sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the hell is going on.- A demolitions specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.

Luckily enough for me, I actually worked for GW at the time and in the UK we could order figures direct from the warehouse by weight rather than anything else. Needless to say, stored somewhere in my parents attic back in the UK are several thousand metal figures >.<

Don't know anyone atm who plays Warmachine or Hordes but both are fun games, currently I've been playing a ton of Malifaux. Like Warmahordes it's small scale, often 5-6 figures a side (though expandable up to 10-15) and has some really good rules (it uses a deck of cards instead of dice and has some very interesting and fun mechanics dealing with this) and great scenarios. Other than the rules you can get starter boxes with a hero and their minions (all you need to play the basic game, which is more than enough to start) for $40 or less usually.

"Based in an alternate Earth, Malifaux uses gothic, steampunk, Victorian horror with a dose of the wild west to inject fun and depth into the magical lawlessness of a world rife with monsters, necropunks, man-machine hybrids, gunslingers, and power-hungry politicos."

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Bretonnian Second edition 5k points -My army was HUGE, was able to get Bretonnian knight at 1€ and bowmen @30cents each...I remember showing up on a tornament and outshot a Wood Elf. 99archers (i think it was after third edition)We used to do 10/15k side battles that took most(10+hours) of the day...

Tyranids - (dunno which edition)- After pain(t) (spray black+spray whitewash) and glue for an excruciating 2hours... i found upon arriving at the store that 99% of my carnifex(5€each)+Hyve Tyrants had dismantled on the trip and that i didn't have the energy to put them together.(I one in the few Tyranid players in the world that did more that 1 match and have a 100% Overwelming victories ration)

P.S. i only played twice with my nids P.P.S. My Bretonnian lost most of it's collor but still it's pretty

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I had a friend back in high school that played Tyranid, went to tournaments ALL the time. Won a few of em actually! I kinda lived out my 40k days vicariously through him haha. Was always too broke to play myself. Lucky son of a bitch, both his parents were upper management at Boeing, so they'd buy him sets like every week.