Lehner should be higher without question. He's at least an 8.0C. After all he has accomplished at such a young age, putting him below "NHL starter" for career potential is almost libellous.

Stone should be an 8.0D, IMO. Top line potential, very low chance of it happening. A a comparable, take a guy like Sven Baertschi. Sven is only a five months younger than Stone and has very comparable development curve. Sven gets props for putting up points in the NHL, but Stone shouldn't be punished for having an injury. Both were putting up similar points in the AHL and both played the same number of games last year. Despite the similarities, Sven Baertschi is a 8.0 B prospect. Stone won't likely become a top line player, but the potential for him to be one is there, and I think that potential should be recognized.

I don't really fins anyone else too bad. Sure, Zibanejad could be higher, but he hasn't shown in any league the ability to overwhelm opponents. All he's shown is the ability to, one day, be a good 2nd liner who can play on the top line. I thought Wiercioch was still a little high, 7.0C would be alright with me. Gryba should have gotten a 6.5B, IMO. He's shown more than O'Brien has, IMO.

Pageau should have gotten a 7.0D, IMO. Very high potential, very low chance of success. JOB should have gotten a 6.5C, he could be out of the NHL by next year. He's not a safe bet to be a long term NHLer.

The funniest part is that if you click on the Team Ranking tab, the Sens were rated 2nd overall last year and they had this to say about the goaltending:

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Although Lehner is one of the top goaltending prospects in the world, after him the Senators lack depth in net.

And yet.....7.5 C!!!!!!!!

To think that I joined HF back in 04 precisely because at the time this was pretty much the only place you could get any accurate prospect info of any kind....and now 7.5 C.....it would be nice if the author had the guts to put his name on this...just to give credit where credit is due.

The funniest part is that if you click on the Team Ranking tab, the Sens were rated 2nd overall last year and they had this to say about the goaltending:

And yet.....7.5 C!!!!!!!!

To think that I joined HF back in 04 precisely because at the time this was pretty much the only place you could get any accurate prospect info of any kind....and now 7.5 C.....it would be nice if the author had the guts to put his name on this...just to give credit where credit is due.

They are written and given by armchair GM's, similar to all of us, and not every team has a writer. Many times it is like picking someone at random from this board, and asking them to write and grade Dallas' prospects.

In saying that, the only grades I "REALLY" have a problem with are Lehner and JGP.

The Calgary Flames have three forwards in camp, Mark Jankowski, Sean Monahan and Emile Poirier, while the Montreal Canadiens have goalie Zachary Fucale and forward Charles Hudon. The Vancouver Canucks have forwards Hunter Shinkaruk and Brendan Gaunce.

The funniest part is that if you click on the Team Ranking tab, the Sens were rated 2nd overall last year and they had this to say about the goaltending:

And yet.....7.5 C!!!!!!!!

To think that I joined HF back in 04 precisely because at the time this was pretty much the only place you could get any accurate prospect info of any kind....and now 7.5 C.....it would be nice if the author had the guts to put his name on this...just to give credit where credit is due.

The Calgary Flames have three forwards in camp, Mark Jankowski, Sean Monahan and Emile Poirier, while the Montreal Canadiens have goalie Zachary Fucale and forward Charles Hudon. The Vancouver Canucks have forwards Hunter Shinkaruk and Brendan Gaunce.

Biases aside, where do you guys see Pageau this year and the future? Trying to decide if for fantasy purposes, if he is worth it or if he'll be put into more of a defensive role, and not be. I like his stats so far in the NHL, and he's only 20, but where are Sen fans on him? And where is the Sens organization on him?