Cross-wind, tight set-up, hen pheasants in thick bermuda after a duck go-bird....a recipe for trouble. Hunts, handles & switching can result with some p/u's.

11-16-2012, 12:07 PM

FOM

88 did it....

11-16-2012, 12:07 PM

2tall

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff evans

2Tall, this is a common marking concept called an inverted triple. This is a tough, tough test. You have a flier long stand up with a short retired hen pheasant. The fall lands darn near inline with the long stand up flier guns. when the dog is approaching the short retired all he see's is the flier guns, I haven't met a dog that didn't want that flier apposed to the dead, it takes alot of training and a good dog. They'll run right over the top of that shirt retired with no conscious. Does this test show great marking? I'll reserve my comment... Happy has attempted this test a few hundred times, his success ratio is very low though:):)

Thank you and understood! It is the same configuration as what we did, but I don't remember if we ever did this exact order. I can see how the flier would wipe out that short retired! I will say our success ratio was low as well. But what a great training set up, and good to see a real life example of what the "ultimate" execution of the set up is!:cool:

11-16-2012, 12:14 PM

FOM

89 did it...

11-16-2012, 12:18 PM

Paul "Happy" Gilmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff evans

2Tall, this is a common marking concept called an inverted triple. This is a tough, tough test. You have a flier long stand up with a short retired hen pheasant. The fall lands darn near inline with the long stand up flier guns. when the dog is approaching the short retired all he see's is the flier guns, I haven't met a dog that didn't want that flier apposed to the dead, it takes alot of training and a good dog. They'll run right over the top of that shirt retired with no conscious. Does this test show great marking? I'll reserve my comment... Happy has attempted this test a few hundred times, his success ratio is very low though:):)

I let the dog gets the old dead birds. I like to eat the fresh ones first. Never gonna break me of that habit and I've done it a thousand times not just a hundred...lol..

11-16-2012, 12:19 PM

FOM

92 handle...

11-16-2012, 12:23 PM

ReedCreek

...a triple in a hay field.....

......Go pick up 3 birds....

....looks like our training set up....

ah, ha....not quite so simple apparently...easier said than done....

11-16-2012, 12:28 PM

FOM

93 handle....

11-16-2012, 12:31 PM

Gerard Rozas

So we are going into Friday afternoon and they have done 1 (0ne) watermark. And most of the dogs ran around the water to that.

11-16-2012, 12:37 PM

Granddaddy

What makes this common and already difficult set-up especially difficult is thick bermuda cover using hen pheasants after a duck retrieve. That combo causes hunts and results in dogs losing prospective & confidence in their hunt. And with a cross-wind, the later dogs have an even more difficult time with the flyer with features blowing. Tough & will get tougher still unless handlers find a way to put odds in their favor.