I love going out to eat here in Texas. We have a ridiculously high selection of restaurants to choose from so I have the luxury of most time being able to eat at a place I've never eaten before.

That being said I must say the chatter I've picked up through the last month or so have been in one word... INSANE!

Everyone and I mean EVERYONE is talking about how they can't stand what our government has become. Yes Obama is a big part of it but it's more than that now. They say it's the entire system practically!

Today I overheard a big group of people talking about the newly signed UN treaty banning guns. They were talking about what they would do if someone ever came to take theirs away and it wasn't pretty...

I just want to say this now... NO one is going to accept that here...

This leads me to wonder... Is this planned?... I can't imagine our government wouldn't know the reaction of the people if they were to try and do a gun ban...

This makes me curious that what if they are trying on purpose to piss the country off into a violent confrontation? I honestly don't know what the benefit of that would be but they can't surely be so stupid to think that half the country would rather die than lose their defensive tools?

I don't really know a solution to either side but I'm telling this chatter is not just small talk. These people are dead serious about this and everyone is getting grouped up on the same idea. I heard many heres heres in response to this groups conversation. Remember I usually go to a new restaurant everytime so it's not the same people I'm hearing this from it seems to be everyone around here.

Has anyone else heard from the general population talk like this?

Quoting: XSlyOneX

Must just be places like texas. In california, all you'll hear is deballed men squirm in fear around their manly women in their company.

Everyone here is asking for a TRUE DEMOCRACY. Not a system that needs a congress/house/senate to vote on decision but a state democracy voted on by the people of THE STATE for decisions. Different places different styles different needs. They say the Feds need to step away and give people back the power they were supposed to have at the start of this country. The technology for this exists today. We are all so networked now that it would be so easy to convert to this style.

Let the people decide whats best and if we go down then we know who's fault it is.

43% of our population voted for Obama so I really wish you people would just stop painting Texas with such a broad stroke, 25 million people with diverse ideas and interest, we don't fit into your fucking pigeon hole so just shut up about my state already.

Yes, everything about the United States was and is supposed to be entirely voluntary. For example, that's why there were no income taxes. States could secede peacefully at any time. And you were supposed to actually be allowed to OWN property. That's why there were no property taxes.

43% of our population voted for Obama so I really wish you people would just stop painting Texas with such a broad stroke, 25 million people with diverse ideas and interest, we don't fit into your fucking pigeon hole so just shut up about my state already.

I'm from Texas. I'd say a lot of them are also not even American citizens.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791

There is that.

Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

this is still the state of Sam Rayburn , Jim Wright, Ann Richards, Lloyd Bentsen and some dude name Lyndon Baines Johnson, I guess it were them there imported Yankees who put those folks in power to huh? derrrr..when I was a kid this was a firm democratic state so you little closet fag Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity fan boys can suck my "libtard" dick, I don't take shit from you little redneck punks, never have, never will, that just ain't the way I was raised by my parents who cried the day JFK died while you fascist fucks would have been celebrating.

If u hand over your guns there is no way in hell your going to survive the collapse.....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425

don't die for nothing. what you going to do when 15 trained guys in battle gear show up at your front door demanding your weapons? what about the children? want them to get the randy weaver or waco treatment? better to live to fight another day.

Yes, everything about the United States was and is supposed to be entirely voluntary. For example, that's why there were no income taxes. States could secede peacefully at any time. And you were supposed to actually be allowed to OWN property. That's why there were no property taxes.

It has all been usurped by criminals now. The Republic is dead.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791

Correct.

:yes:

Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

that's a no shitter. work all your live to pay off your home only to have it taken from you at gunpoint in a bad economy. it's immoral.

I'm from Texas. I'd say a lot of them are also not even American citizens.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791

There is that.

Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

this is still the state of Sam Rayburn , Jim Wright, Ann Richards, Lloyd Bentsen and some dude name Lyndon Baines Johnson, I guess it were them there imported Yankees who put those folks in power to huh? derrrr..when I was a kid this was a firm democratic state so you little closet fag Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity fan boys can suck my "libtard" dick, I don't take shit from you little redneck punks, never have, never will, that just ain't the way I was raised by my parents who cried the day JFK died while you fascist fucks would have been celebrating.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27515407

Look up liberal fascism. That's you. You're not that bright as you think you are.

this is still the state of Sam Rayburn , Jim Wright, Ann Richards, Lloyd Bentsen and some dude name Lyndon Baines Johnson, I guess it were them there imported Yankees who put those folks in power to huh? derrrr..when I was a kid this was a firm democratic state so you little closet fag Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity fan boys can suck my "libtard" dick, I don't take shit from you little redneck punks, never have, never will, that just ain't the way I was raised by my parents who cried the day JFK died while you fascist fucks would have been celebrating.

I love going out to eat here in Texas. We have a ridiculously high selection of restaurants to choose from so I have the luxury of most time being able to eat at a place I've never eaten before.

That being said I must say the chatter I've picked up through the last month or so have been in one word... INSANE!

Everyone and I mean EVERYONE is talking about how they can't stand what our government has become. Yes Obama is a big part of it but it's more than that now. They say it's the entire system practically!

Today I overheard a big group of people talking about the newly signed UN treaty banning guns. They were talking about what they would do if someone ever came to take theirs away and it wasn't pretty...

I just want to say this now... NO one is going to accept that here...

This leads me to wonder... Is this planned?... I can't imagine our government wouldn't know the reaction of the people if they were to try and do a gun ban...

This makes me curious that what if they are trying on purpose to piss the country off into a violent confrontation? I honestly don't know what the benefit of that would be but they can't surely be so stupid to think that half the country would rather die than lose their defensive tools?

I don't really know a solution to either side but I'm telling this chatter is not just small talk. These people are dead serious about this and everyone is getting grouped up on the same idea. I heard many heres heres in response to this groups conversation. Remember I usually go to a new restaurant everytime so it's not the same people I'm hearing this from it seems to be everyone around here.

I work at the Police dept in KY. I can tell you this, they won't take them without a fight. I don't know a single soul including myself that don't have stockpiles hidden thruoghout the city. I am part of the local NRA and the members are dead serious about anything that involves banning of arms. So if you come to KY UN prepare for a fight.

I love going out to eat here in Texas. We have a ridiculously high selection of restaurants to choose from so I have the luxury of most time being able to eat at a place I've never eaten before.

That being said I must say the chatter I've picked up through the last month or so have been in one word... INSANE!

Everyone and I mean EVERYONE is talking about how they can't stand what our government has become. Yes Obama is a big part of it but it's more than that now. They say it's the entire system practically!

Today I overheard a big group of people talking about the newly signed UN treaty banning guns. They were talking about what they would do if someone ever came to take theirs away and it wasn't pretty...

I just want to say this now... NO one is going to accept that here...

This leads me to wonder... Is this planned?... I can't imagine our government wouldn't know the reaction of the people if they were to try and do a gun ban...

This makes me curious that what if they are trying on purpose to piss the country off into a violent confrontation? I honestly don't know what the benefit of that would be but they can't surely be so stupid to think that half the country would rather die than lose their defensive tools?

I don't really know a solution to either side but I'm telling this chatter is not just small talk. These people are dead serious about this and everyone is getting grouped up on the same idea. I heard many heres heres in response to this groups conversation. Remember I usually go to a new restaurant everytime so it's not the same people I'm hearing this from it seems to be everyone around here.

Has anyone else heard from the general population talk like this?

Quoting: XSlyOneX

seriously, nobody cares about Texas but Texaslet them secede

people are paranoid and intolerant

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27590487

Texas will be the new Capitol of the newly formed United States of America. I wil stand by my brothers.

So any others States having chatter like this? I would expect it from the South but anyone from Northern States that have noticed this topic brought up constantly?

Quoting: XSlyOneX

Up here in the Mitten I haven't heard anything quite so blunt or obvious as what's been talked about thus far in this thread, however I hear milder things along the same line almost daily.The other day at Meijer I saw an elderly couple with two shopping carts filled ALL the way up with canned foods, discussing how long it would last, where they would keep it all, whether they should continue getting more while they can, etc.I also live in a somewhat wealthy, suburban area, so I'm sure talk is much more subdued here. If I went to some hole-in-the-wall bars or restaurants about 30 miles in any direction from here, I'm sure I would find the conversation a bit more..."aggressive"...

I'm from Texas. I'd say a lot of them are also not even American citizens.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791

There is that.

Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

this is still the state of Sam Rayburn , Jim Wright, Ann Richards, Lloyd Bentsen and some dude name Lyndon Baines Johnson, I guess it were them there imported Yankees who put those folks in power to huh? derrrr..when I was a kid this was a firm democratic state so you little closet fag Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity fan boys can suck my "libtard" dick, I don't take shit from you little redneck punks, never have, never will, that just ain't the way I was raised by my parents who cried the day JFK died while you fascist fucks would have been celebrating.

If u hand over your guns there is no way in hell your going to survive the collapse.....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531425

don't die for nothing. what you going to do when 15 trained guys in battle gear show up at your front door demanding your weapons? what about the children? want them to get the randy weaver or waco treatment? better to live to fight another day.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10885887

You think its better to live?In a nazi-like America?

I'd rather take a bullet than live like a scared bunny rabbit.

I'm old enough to remember when most people would die for their country because it was worth dying for.

Lets just say that I'd take that bullit for Jesus.He's REALLY worth dying for.

I live just east of Rockwall Tx. I decided to check in with the local gun store and see how the steel targets worked out for them.(I built a target tree for them a few months back) There were about 20 people in the store and this was about 11:00 AM Monday morning. I talked with the owners son and he said they were selling guns as fast as they were getting them in.

I work at the Police dept in KY. I can tell you this, they won't take them without a fight. I don't know a single soul including myself that don't have stockpiles hidden thruoghout the city. I am part of the local NRA and the members are dead serious about anything that involves banning of arms. So if you come to KY UN prepare for a fight.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25221044

I'm hearing the same thing from Police also. Personally I think any restrictions will be grandfathered in. Ban any new weapons from being produced and limit the magazine capacity just like in 1994.

In the south people need their guns because there is a lot of distance between houses and towns. You have to shoot at wild dogs and wolves, snakes, yard trespassers, burglars, zombie crackheads, runaway tractors... the list goes on and on. No gun, no control. Police aren't going to arrive with a weapon in time. And there is no hunting without guns.

I overheard some guys talking about how the illegal immigrants sure know how to clean out a pecan grove.

If there are going to be unmanned drones with laser tracking and guns above our heads, we need guns below. Or DEWs. Otherwise we will have to resort to slingshots and develop biohazardous snot and blood -- hicks have chew and hepatitis -- to survive.

I work at the Police dept in KY. I can tell you this, they won't take them without a fight. I don't know a single soul including myself that don't have stockpiles hidden thruoghout the city. I am part of the local NRA and the members are dead serious about anything that involves banning of arms. So if you come to KY UN prepare for a fight.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25221044

I'm hearing the same thing from Police also. Personally I think any restrictions will be grandfathered in. Ban any new weapons from being produced and limit the magazine capacity just like in 1994.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28625676

Won't be accepted this time everyone knows it is a gateway to confiscation. Just like Ofucker likes to say, " My way or the highway!" so listen up all you libtards, we are not gonna take your crap anymore! It stops here, it stops now, and if you don't like it bring your ass on down to the street. We are done feeding you! We are done listening to you! And we are taking OUR country back! So just sit back and use your pen because it won't stop what's comming! Sleep tight and good night!

I honestly hope it's more than just Texas... We will not win without others joining the cause of upholding our Constitution!

Quoting: XSlyOneX

Arizona will be a bloodbath. Sheriff Joe just got approved for his sheriff's to carry full auto. I LOVE my guns and always have and will. from when I was a kid I slept with loaded rifles and shotguns under my bed. And I mean from when I was a baby.

But sheriff's carrying full auto in an urban area does not sit well with me at all. My Viet Nam vet friends all told about how they changed to only the A men on the A teams carrying fully automatic. I think AR-14's, not sure, and all the other soldiers (was that when they went to AR-15's?) could only use three round bursts and single fire. Unless they were using 30 and 50 cal subs.

The guys would lose it and spray everywhere, waste all their ammo and lose a lot of allies and other US soldiers with friendly fire.

Maybe the Sheriff's dept. here is a part of the plan? I know there's a lot of "Joe" supporters here, but he's done a lot of questionable things (costing the county more than 60 million in court costs and law suits so far, more to come)

Is there any other EO's out there using full auto, NOT SWAT, I mean just on patrol?

Quoting: Captain Spaulding 28677753

You are ignoring the fact Arizona is a war zone.

Quoting: Desert Fox

You know, it might well be. It's definitely not where I'm at (temporarily), in the NW burbs of Phoenix.

I grew up in Chicago in the 60's and 70's, and lived in east Los Angeles, Silverlake/Echo Park, then across the tracks from Compton, then two blocks from Electric Ave on the west side and those WERE WAR ZONES. And I never really had a problem. In E LA the crips on my side of the street were at war with the crips across the street. But they left us completely alone for some reason.

I heard a lot of drive by's in those days. And I still like the west side of LA more than here. A LOT more. Venice, Santa Monica, fun all the time. Here, boring, but police with full auto? It just feels weird.

I honestly hope it's more than just Texas... We will not win without others joining the cause of upholding our Constitution!

Quoting: XSlyOneX

Arizona will be a bloodbath. Sheriff Joe just got approved for his sheriff's to carry full auto. I LOVE my guns and always have and will. from when I was a kid I slept with loaded rifles and shotguns under my bed. And I mean from when I was a baby.

But sheriff's carrying full auto in an urban area does not sit well with me at all. My Viet Nam vet friends all told about how they changed to only the A men on the A teams carrying fully automatic. I think AR-14's, not sure, and all the other soldiers (was that when they went to AR-15's?) could only use three round bursts and single fire. Unless they were using 30 and 50 cal subs.

The guys would lose it and spray everywhere, waste all their ammo and lose a lot of allies and other US soldiers with friendly fire.

Maybe the Sheriff's dept. here is a part of the plan? I know there's a lot of "Joe" supporters here, but he's done a lot of questionable things (costing the county more than 60 million in court costs and law suits so far, more to come)

Is there any other EO's out there using full auto, NOT SWAT, I mean just on patrol?

Quoting: Captain Spaulding 28677753

You are ignoring the fact Arizona is a war zone.

Quoting: Desert Fox

You know, it might well be. It's definitely not where I'm at (temporarily), in the NW burbs of Phoenix.

I grew up in Chicago in the 60's and 70's, and lived in east Los Angeles, Silverlake/Echo Park, then across the tracks from Compton, then two blocks from Electric Ave on the west side and those WERE WAR ZONES. And I never really had a problem. In E LA the crips on my side of the street were at war with the crips across the street. But they left us completely alone for some reason.

I heard a lot of drive by's in those days. And I still like the west side of LA more than here. A LOT more. Venice, Santa Monica, fun all the time. Here, boring, but police with full auto? It just feels weird.

Quoting: Captain Spaulding 28677753

Full auto in the hands of cops and leg soldiers is a joke. It is not a threat and actually causes them to deplete thier ammo post haste. Simply put they don't have the training or environment for automatic fire to be effective.