zikzak

radi0j0hn wrote:CMOS or no CMOS, I'm not sure why anybody would seriously think that a $60 camera with a pinhole-type aperture would work in low light..In a few years, when we have ISOs of a half million, it will be a different story.

The pinhole-type aperture isn't what's stopping it. Current smartphones have similarly tiny cameras that are surprisingly decent in low light right now. The problem with this camera is just that it's cheap.

When the description goes out of its way to say "*Action Shot Camera has been optimized for outdoor & daylight use. For best results indoors use in well lit areas," that's just code for "Don't expect this thing to work if you don't see the sun above you."

tesla33

Thank you. You'd think that in two pages of posts there would be at least a little discussion of the sound quality, especially as the description doesn't even make it clear that the thing has a microphone at all. I also have to wonder about how usable the video is, with no image stabilization...

renigade4x4

All the negativity.. I bought for my son a month back. He is 17 and he uses it for skateboarding and bmx riding videos. Between the flip video cam and this he likes this cam better. So if this is what you want it for a gift for a teenager its great!!
Happy trails
M

robejacobs

First off, you need to link things if you're talking about them. TargetToys"R"Us. Second, if you had bothered to read before you posted you'd notice that these are not the same product. Neither of them is HD, and neither of them comes with most of these accessories. Please only post price-comparisons with identical products, or at least note the differences.

leonshotme

This is a stupid ridiculous good deal!
At first I too thought it would've been for the SD model as the HD model is a fairly new product and woot normally sells the older model but nope! This is legit, plus it comes with all the add-ons they typically sell separately. Absolutely one of the best deals woot has had in some time if you ask me (wait till I receive the product and test it of course ha).

Maybe people won't confuse it for the SD one if you replace your wording from 'Hi-def' to 'HD'. Even the term 'Hi-Def' seems to be outdated this day in age hahaha.

xgoutx

gregbowman wrote:Bought one locally thinking it might actually be good enough - it wasn't, and I returned it the same day. But, for the price, it was worth the risk. Jakks Pacific doesn't really impress me as a whole, bottom line: this is a TOY, this is not a Swann or a GoPro - you'll be disappointed unless you're 13. But, if you have a 13 year old to buy for, this may be absolutely perfect, and you'll save a ton o' cash . . . they'll love it, and they'll love you for it. For THAT, it is good enough.

This is the first time HD has been made available anywhere - are you talking about the regular standard def version?

xgoutx

Dozer11 wrote:Yep. Even the new Go Pro 3 uses a CMOS sensor. It's how they can make it affordable for us we're-not-in-the-film-industry-so-we-don't-need-to-spend-thousands-yet-now-have-access-to-HD-video people. And CMOS usually uses less power, but that difference is changing with CCDs.

And all of these action sport cameras do poorly in low-light areas. Indoors is darker than most people think. Heck, a lot of video cameras, including phones have horrible to mediocre performance indoors.

pixelpadre

robejacobs wrote:First off, you need to link things if you're talking about them. TargetToys"R"Us. Second, if you had bothered to read before you posted you'd notice that these are not the same product. Neither of them is HD, and neither of them comes with most of these accessories. Please only post price-comparisons with identical products, or at least note the differences.

Yeah I figured I would get nailed on that minor differenc. When you're talking about a pinhole camera....don't dont even do down that road about HD. People who make REAL HD cameras would find it ludicrous that anyone could label a pinhole camera as HD.

robejacobs

pixelpadre wrote:Yeah I figured I would get nailed on that minor differenc. When you're talking about a pinhole camera....don't dont even do down that road about HD. People who make REAL HD cameras would find it ludicrous that anyone could label a pinhole camera as HD.

It isn't really a minor difference, the video quality is massively improved. Compared the Woot! blog video in the product description (exclusively the dogwalking parts, the others are obviously retouched) to this video of the SD model that I found on Youtube in five minutes of searching:

Beyond that, this also contains two accessories that are not in the package at Target or Toy"S"Us, the waterproof case and the viewfinder/playback unit, each of which appear to retail for a penny shy of $20. Seems like a good deal.

radi0j0hn

zikzak wrote:The pinhole-type aperture isn't what's stopping it. Current smartphones have similarly tiny cameras that are surprisingly decent in low light right now. The problem with this camera is just that it's cheap.

When the description goes out of its way to say "*Action Shot Camera has been optimized for outdoor & daylight use. For best results indoors use in well lit areas," that's just code for "Don't expect this thing to work if you don't see the sun above you."

KevinatWoot

I appreciate the real actual field test video; but please make it more "real actual field test" next time.

Dude walking a dog is cool, but there is so much more you could do with a video camera like this. Stop being lazy!

Do you really think people want to spend 60 bucks to take videos of them walking their dog? Give them ideas of how to use it like, strapping it to your car bumper. Or, use it like a Russian dash board camera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxHPJAONpE

I am sorry, but you guys have lack the creativity which made you successful. I'm sure you're making cash hand over fist, but don't you really need to be creative again.

You could have done a clown car parody. With either real people or the Woot monkeys. I am sorry, but you guy are writers, and not creatives.

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