Okay, I think you guys already know..Seems like with new scrolls, Square has hidden these but good.

The usual suspects have been checked, npc wise. I even checked a few places that don't normally sell high level scrolls but do sell scrolls. So these drop from something, we don't know what yet tho. OR maybe from a very oddball npc that never sold scrolls before.

If you find one of these new scrolls, please post here with proof (Screenshot, etc) so maybe we can help each other. Without further ado, here's the list. I will update this soon as I can once we find out where these come from!

There's new trials in gustav tunnel. I bet they drop from new, higher level skeletons if they were added. Though I'm betting comet will be dropped by the HKC fights. Just calling it now.

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Yeah speculation is the new scrolls drop from Void watch or NMs, so good luck hunting NMs now, and Voidwatch pfft it's going to be a nightmare to these scrolls now.

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I'm pretty sure these scrolls don't drop in GoV. It seems they're rewards from the new high level battlefields only. HKCNMs, the new WoE fluxes and probably voidwatch T5+ appear to be the only source, so these are going to be a pain to get for a while.

Edited, Sep 20th 2011 12:48pm by Melphina

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When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.

True. I'm just trying to document it so maybe we can get friends and get our spells, if worst comes to worst. As for me, not leveling blm beyond 90 until I know where these come from; we got some good spells this update.

Also it seems like they drop from new Voidwatch battles too, so I'll add that as well. However since the guy on BG didn't put up a screen, it's unconfirmed until I see one.

Maybe if enough do that they'll become easier? Give it time guys. give it time. And keep looking. I said that BCs weren't the only place to get those scrolls..I suspected Square put them in more than one spot.

Funny how all the new scrolls seem to drop from all the new battlefields, eh? NEEDS MOAR CONFIRMATION OR I WONT UPDATE

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MACC is a joke, any job with access to mage gear can hit close the MACC cap on legion mobs, which is why my BRD/RDM can land slow/para/blind despite having only 150 skill (from /RDM.)

As a minor heads up - don't flip out too much if you're doing WoE and see the word "scroll" in your chest... the tier 5s and -jas that dropped in abyssea also drop in them :( So far aeroja and fire and blizz 5 - bah.

WoE, while fun, is a horrible way to get new scrolls. Yeah, they're free, but I've done 20+ runs and haven't gotten a single new scroll. In fact, I've been in a mostly/completely full alli for those 20 runs, and have seen one Temper and one Comet drop total. That's like 300 loot pools of evidence.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2011 7:05am by tertoonetwothreefour

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I've been running it on both characters - WHM curebombs a bit and then I play the SMN - level and a half's worth of exp on both of them and still nada. Going to have coins to start making WoE weapons at this rate though.

Thunder V also drops from Flux 9. One of my close friends got it whilst we were both there. And Ere I </3 you for being so lucky with WoE. I've done 15 or so runs and not seen a thing so far.

Yeah, I realize even my **** poor luck (which has gotten worse since then, with no new anything) is above average. If you were on Sylph I'd mail you the scroll - I'm prolly shutting down the account tomorrow over this. I just don't have the patience to not enjoy my fun mage jobs for 6 months.

Erica; you may be jumping the gun. On Quetz, Holy 2 finaly went below a mil, and the other scrolls are slowly starting to come down in price.

As of right now the only new new spell I have is for whm; Curaga V (that's saved our neck in Aby already). I put my foot down and am not leveling blm until I can get the scrolls, either by buying off AH (I can easily pump out a million and a half gil a week if I push it) or by getting them other ways. Until I can (and also until I can get my paws on a wizzan grip but that's not a spell).. BLM stays 90.

Actually in all honesty, I empathise with Ere. It's the first time in years I've just not wanted to play. I hate feeling 'gimp'. This update has crapped all over BLM especially. Right now I have 4 staves which need upgrading with 40 geodes each. I have been saving but the prices on the bloody things are going up and up. I also need 6m gil worth of scrolls at today's prices. I did get Comet but I've been taking two accounts into WoE the past week and have Eld in there since the update and I just can't get them.

If Voidwatch doesn't help tonight, I think I may just take a break from it all. It feels like such a backwards step. I'm being actively penalised for being a mage right now.

I symphatize. I never did any magian staves for blm and right now I'm glad I didn't...

Right now, been holding blm at 90 because of this. Been doing both voidwatch with my shell (So far, only trash drops) and WoE when I got time, not to mention just pumping out gil and working on a crafting mule. (I got 3.9 mil atm; prolly will have 4 mil after I do another gil-crafting run)

At least on quetz, the spells are starting to come down in price; I figure if they don't go down much more I'll end up buying them. But yeah. Square proly did not realize and prolly is dense as a post, but this update really told mages to "do this or make gil to buy these spells, or gtfo lolololol"

Luckily we kept all geodes and stored them on a mule. Yesterday I was able to update my Varuna's, Yama's, and Indra's. I am short on Agni's because we gave a bunch to my brother~in~lawish to finish his STR polearm. I didn't realize they were going to release the +3 dmg staves so quickly. Oh well, stocking up now and the LS knows who needs em for trials!

Actually in all honesty, I empathise with Ere. It's the first time in years I've just not wanted to play. I hate feeling 'gimp'. This update has crapped all over BLM especially. Right now I have 4 staves which need upgrading with 40 geodes each. I have been saving but the prices on the bloody things are going up and up. I also need 6m gil worth of scrolls at today's prices. I did get Comet but I've been taking two accounts into WoE the past week and have Eld in there since the update and I just can't get them.

If Voidwatch doesn't help tonight, I think I may just take a break from it all. It feels like such a backwards step. I'm being actively penalised for being a mage right now.

I'm in the same boat as well needing all of the scrolls that were added in this last update. Thus far I'm somewhere around 0/25 from WoE. I wouldn't be so upset about this if other jobs had to jump through similar hoops for getting their new JA's and such. Even though it sucks we really have precious few options other than persevering through these events or purchasing them. Personally I refuse to purchase any of these at their inflated prices. I waited out Raise III and Erase back in their days of rampant price gouging, I'll do the same for these as well.

S-E raised the bar on character progression big time this update and blm was given a LOT of upgrades to play with. I have mixed feelings about it because on one hand the upgrades are mostly actionable and very expensive, but on the other hand I'm glad there ARE upgrades. This update had one of the most numerous bags of goodies for blm in a long time. Aside from Manawell we got

I separated that with the the auctionable items on the top, staves, and the more situational and/or challenging items. The only item in that list which is rare/ex is the Cesso Sash (aside from staves), and some of those are quite nice. My thief on the other hand got + 3 ToTM daggers which are a vastly lamer upgrade from +2 than a staff. Kila +3 got +2 base damage and ONE point of base stat over the +2, and fusetto got screwed even harder with two base D increase (thats it) for the low cost of 100 Devious Dies. I can also use the kikias's cape in an aeolian build. Aside from that the only thing which interested me was the cosuscanti and the Fajin Boots which are both rare drops from the same t3 Zilart path Voidwatch fight (kirin version 2). In comparison my thief's toys are fewer and a royal pain in the *** to get whereas my blm upgrades simply require gil. I actually ENJOY farming gil and there are a lot of ways to get some easy gil playing casually and battling mush mobs (like farming some basic NM triggers or converting cruor and gold box items into gil). It's not that it's hard to farm gil, just that a lot of people would rather do events instead. In retrospect I've felt a lot more character progression on my blm since this past update than I have on my thief.

Edited, Oct 6th 2011 8:25pm by Melphina

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Some of the gear you listed has drawbacks that make me at them; I proly won't upgrade with the ones with nasty side effects

The only item I listed with negative side effects is the Saevus Pendant. While earthcry, nefer and kiksias' are situational other than inventory -1 there is no downside to using them in their appropriate builds. Obviously the spells and casso sash are pure upgrades as well. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that Ombre Tathlum doesn't have MaB on it whereas witchstone does? The rule of 2 Int > 1 Mab > 1 Int puts Ombre tathlum ahead of witchstone so even if it isn't stronger it's at best a wash in damage. The draw for me is the +2 conserve MP to proc my af set a little more often and even one or two procs every few hundred nukes is enough to put ombre ahead of witchstone. The difference between Goetia Chain and Saevus Pendant is a loss of 7 magic accuracy for a gain of 7 INT (damage) --> 9 MaB (damage) and I don't know about you but that's a tradeoff I'm more than willing to make. In the worst case scenario I could macro in Goetia for resists but in 98+% of cases I'll be using the Saevus.

Like I said, if you have gil or are willing to farm gil your mages can get some darn nice stuff just by running to the auction house. Voidwatch has TERRIBLE drop rates and organizing the runs is a pain in the ***. I want the Coruscanti + Fajin boots badly but I'm not even TRYING to get them atm because they drop from a very difficult tier 3 Zilart path Voidwatch battle and the drop rate with capped lights is similar to salvage drop rates (soul crushing). It doesn't feel worth my time atm because just getting access to the battle takes a while and it's really hard. I'm not in a linkshell capable of running Voidwatch properly and my playtime is too limited to obligate myself to one at this time. Almost all of the melee stuff this update was disappointing (1500 plates, voidwatch mobs that never drop, and pitiful gains on ToTM melee weapons +3 for the price you have to pay (all imitation empyrean weapon +3 trials have a RETARDED cost to benefit ratio, and elemental path isn't much better). I'm of the mindset that there was no good reason for s-e to make the new scrolls drop rate this low other than to impose artificial difficulty and add a level of uber rarity to them, but at the same time they managed to make most of the melee goodies worse upgrades and most of them can't be bought directly off the auction house. So yeah, I like my blms stuff better this time.

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 6:48pm by Melphina

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That pendant you mentioned has one I don't like, and also the Romanus Cape; that addle could mess up your spell casting timing (and let's just say I don't try to use extended macros; I started on the ps2, and like to be able to switch back and forth seamlessly if I must. Tho blm takes up a full set!)

I didn't notice the addle effect on the cape when I originally looked at it. In that light I agree the cape isn't that hot unless you have some good spellcast going on (I don't either) so I'll stick with searing cape for now. But my nuking magic accuracy is capped on anything in abbysea or lower levels leaving Voidwatch as the only place I could see resist issues on a regular basis. 9 MaB is quite a lot nicer than 7 INT so I'll definitely be using the pendant in a majority of situations.

Edited, Oct 12th 2011 1:49am by Melphina

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