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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

I don't follow college much, but it seems this draft is lacking in Offensive playmakers.

It seems in general to be a draft without a lot of high profile guys in it. I am correct in this opinion?

This generally seems right to me. I'd say there are a ton of B- players, particularly at the positions we most need to deal with (ILB and DL). Seems like the type of draft where the Ravens could excel, especially with 11 picks.

I will go maybe against the grain a little bit (against the majority perhaps) and say we'll do some type of package to either move up in the Second or get another Second or Third in this draft. Don't see anyone in the First we'd move up for, though maybe we'd ,move up 5-6 slots to grab a Hankins, or Elam, if it's getting late in the round and we want, for example, to jump a New England or SF to one of these guys.

I don't know that we need to sign 11 rookies, or that we'd want to even if we needed that many players to fill out the roster.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by NC Raven

This generally seems right to me. I'd say there are a ton of B- players, particularly at the positions we most need to deal with (ILB and DL). Seems like the type of draft where the Ravens could excel, especially with 11 picks.

I will go maybe against the grain a little bit (against the majority perhaps) and say we'll do some type of package to either move up in the Second or get another Second or Third in this draft. Don't see anyone in the First we'd move up for, though maybe we'd ,move up 5-6 slots to grab a Hankins, or Elam, if it's getting late in the round and we want, for example, to jump a New England or SF to one of these guys.

I don't know that we need to sign 11 rookies, or that we'd want to even if we needed that many players to fill out the roster.

With all of the first round LT's seemingly out of reach, I agree. In my last "mock draftish" thing I posted on the scout board, I had us trading up in rounds 2 and 3. I really think this is a draft to be aggressive, as we have so many picks it's not worth nitpicking on value when there is a desired player on the board. Just reach up and grab him.

Here it is...
My new favorite four round mock that came to mind this morning would be.

Te'o at 32
Trade up in the 2nd for Tavon Austin
Trade up in the thrid for potential LT Quessenberry from San Jose.
and then just ffor giggles, Tyrann Mathieu and TE Michael Williams from Bama with our two comp 4ths.

Other comp picks to be used on a Punter, FB and a NT. And probably a safety in there somewhere, though the Honey Badger may fit in there as well. Or perhaps Corey Gaham moves with the acquisition of Honey Badger. Honey Badger and Webb inside in the dime would be shweeeeeet....

I've see all I need to see from Kevin Minter…Instincts, burst, explosive striker, sorts through the trash, great effort. I'm in. #Draft

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks

RT @matt_miz: very good fit for Ravens, no? > When I scouted there, we focused on speed, toughness and instincts. Minter checks all 3 boxes

Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.

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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by jonboy79

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Trade up in the 2nd for Tavon Austin

If we still had Cam, I would think he wouldn't know how to use a player like this. But now with Caldwell...my interest is peaked. He would certainly add a new wrinkle to our offense. Local boy, dream come true.

Problem is he kind of overlaps with Jacoby for returns and Rice for screens. But I guess that could be a good problem to have. Austin looks made for the Patriots.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by bt12483

If we still had Cam, I would think he wouldn't know how to use a player like this. But now with Caldwell...my interest is peaked. He would certainly add a new wrinkle to our offense. Local boy, dream come true.

Problem is he kind of overlaps with Jacoby for returns and Rice for screens. But I guess that could be a good problem to have.

as much as I like Jacoby, if we are able to draft Austin, then he becomes a bit expensive and superflous... maybe not quite expendable. I guess that's my way of sayingthat if the FO chooses Boldin over Jacoby in a one or the other scenario AND they draft Austin, then I would be happy withthe sum total.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Daniel Jeremiah loves Minter, says when he was scouting here they focus on 3 things with LB's 1. speed 2. toughness 3. instincts and Minter fits the bill. Talks about the Florida game being essentially a Minter highlight reel, which it was, he was tremendous in that game.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

They have Deonte Thompson and the draft to find developmental return guys who could become outside WRs. I don't think Jacoby Jones survives the off-season as a Raven.

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Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by NC Raven

This generally seems right to me. I'd say there are a ton of B- players, particularly at the positions we most need to deal with (ILB and DL). Seems like the type of draft where the Ravens could excel, especially with 11 picks.

I will go maybe against the grain a little bit (against the majority perhaps) and say we'll do some type of package to either move up in the Second or get another Second or Third in this draft. Don't see anyone in the First we'd move up for, though maybe we'd ,move up 5-6 slots to grab a Hankins, or Elam, if it's getting late in the round and we want, for example, to jump a New England or SF to one of these guys.

I don't know that we need to sign 11 rookies, or that we'd want to even if we needed that many players to fill out the roster.

Pretty much agreed with most of this. NO WAY WE TAKE 11 PLAYERS. 11 players is moves wasted and a bunch of cuts. Quality over quanity.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Ozzie made it clear that they will not pass up a good offensive prospect if he is there. By some of the logic here, Ray Rice would not have been taken in the second round and Benard Pierce would not have been taken in the third.

Re: New draft/FA/offseason thread

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Eddie Lacy?

Hey.....you never know.

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