I'm kind of amazed that, after about 6 years, we're still under 5,000 dead in Iraq. Just going by casualty rates, that would make the Iraq War the most successful war in American history.

In WW2 alone, there were over 416,000 US military soldiers killed and that war was far from being a failure for the United States.

J.B.

04-24-2009, 06:26 PM

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/facepalm.jpg

You're almost 30...

also... what school did you go to to get your degree in engineering?

I'm almost 27 actually, not 30, and what does that have to with this thread being gay?

I went to the Conservatory of Recording Arts and Sciences in Tempe AZ, but again what does have to do with this thread? :laugh:

If I may ask, what is this thread supposed to suggest? That Conservatives do not care about the men and women who have died serving our country? Or is it just a lame attempt at taking a shot at people who did not support Obama?

NateR

04-24-2009, 06:28 PM

Or is it just a lame attempt at taking a shot at people who did not support Obama?

DING! DING! DING! DING! What do we have for him, Johnny!?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Crisco

04-24-2009, 06:32 PM

DING! DING! DING! DING! What do we have for him, Johnny!?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE WIN GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

J.B.

04-24-2009, 06:32 PM

DING! DING! DING! DING! What do we have for him, Johnny!?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I think this is what he would get on the Price is Right :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

rearnakedchoke

04-24-2009, 06:54 PM

Man, Obama is great ... maybe they should change the law so that a president can serve more than 2 terms ... the USA is finally looking up these days ...

mikthehick

04-24-2009, 07:17 PM

I don't understand....

How does putting the country in trillions of dollars of debt FIX anything???

And not I'm not a Clinton, Obama, OR Bush fan. I voted for Ron Paul.

J.B.

04-24-2009, 07:25 PM

I don't understand....

How does putting the country in trillions of dollars of debt FIX anything???

And not I'm not a Clinton, Obama, OR Bush fan. I voted for Ron Paul.

Well, simply put, it's not really about "fixing" anything, it's about moving forward with a political agenda that was already drawn out LONG before the election ever happened.

A side note on Ron Paul, while I think that the guy has some good ideas, and I think he means well, he really is a bit out of touch with reality. He wants to cut out money completely in areas where it's just not fundamentally sound and his ideas on foreign policy might work on another planet, but not on this one.

TheConcretekid

04-24-2009, 07:27 PM

I'm almost 27 actually, not 30, and what does that have to with this thread being gay?
27 is almost 30 and the allusion to your age was a remark on the maturity of your comment... and that when you and NateR (and whoever responded with that "Your Mom" comment) have no come back or rational argument you immediately resort to (horrifically sophomoric) insults.... unless that wasn't an insult and you were rewarding my post for being an exultant and/or jubilant one...

I went to the Conservatory of Recording Arts and Sciences in Tempe AZ, but again what does have to do with this thread? :laugh:
Maybe I was just curious. I am always fascinated by and interested in the criteria and level of merit required for persons to call themselves engineers.

If I may ask, what is this thread supposed to suggest? That Conservatives do not care about the men and women who have died serving our country? Or is it just a lame attempt at taking a shot at people who did not support Obama?

I understand that it may have been a lot to read, so I'll remove the distracting pictures and repeat the point:

Moral of the story: Money is the most important issue to neocons.

I'm kind of amazed that, after about 6 years, we're still under 5,000 dead in Iraq.
:scared0011:
Amazed isn't the world I would use.

And those 5,000 died for what reason....
No WMD
No ties to Al Qaeda
Terrorism only existed in Iraq after we went in there
The world hates and distrusts us
Bin Laden still alive
etc

Crisco

04-24-2009, 07:31 PM

:scared0011:
Amazed isn't the world I would use.

And those 5,000 died for what reason....
No WMD
No ties to Al Qaeda
Terrorism only existed in Iraq after we went in there
The world hates and distrusts us
Bin Laden still alive
etc

I said your mom and awaited your response to demonstrate how much a smug tight ass you are, completely devoid of any sense of humor.

You sir... Are garbage.

and for the record the world hates us and always will hate us.

We are white, Christian and rich.

You must be out of your fing mind if you think the world is ever going to not hate us.

TheConcretekid

04-24-2009, 07:37 PM

You sir... Are garbage.

Nice

and for the record the world hates us and always will hate us.

We are white, Christian and rich.

You must be out of your fing mind if you think the world is ever going to not hate us.

No the world hates us because we think we're the world police and we know whats best for everyone, and we exploit those who are weaker, poorer or depend on us.

Ironically, another reason the world hates us is because we think the world hates us because we are white, Christian and rich.

Imagine if the tables were turned (http://www.mattbors.com/archives/513.html).

Crisco

04-24-2009, 07:43 PM

Nice

No the world hates us because we think we're the world police and we know whats best for everyone, and we exploit those who are weaker, poorer or depend on us.

Imagine if the tables were turned (http://www.mattbors.com/archives/513.html).

Power imposes will.

How do you think Islam was spread? By the fing sword drenched in the blood of all those who didn't want to believe in their false faith.

They are just pissed that they can't beat us and have to do what we say. The world has always been that way and it always will. If they had the ability too they would be ruling the world a lot worse then we would.

In the history of the world the most powerful country ALWAYS had a hand in the affairs of other nations.

Get over it.

J.B.

04-24-2009, 07:50 PM

27 is NOT almost 30. When Lebron James scores 27 points in a basketball game, do they say 27 or almost 30? Sure, 27 is closer to 30 than 26 is, but who cares? The thread is still gay.
Now quit making me feel old. I got enough problems.

I got your remark, and if you find my response to be "immature", then I do apologize but I could really care less. Seeing as how you came on here and posted a thread that has NO rational argument in it to begin with, the response was not only merited, but 100% factual.

In short... this thread = gay, lame, stupid, mindless, etc... However you want to take it, this thread serves no other purpose but for you to try and make some ridiculous point you magically came to on your own, which in itself is nothing more than a sweeping generalization and has ZERO substance.

Your argument is "money is the most important issue to neocons". Please enlighten us as to the flawless logic you are using to come to this conclusion. Rather than reciting a laundry list of bulls**t talking points about the Iraq war, all of which have been argued on here until we were all blue in the face... Why not explain to all of us here on the forum how it is that YOU have come to a conclusion that money is more important to "neocons" than the lives of our American soldiers?

This is a pretty typical move of people who have a certain ideological mindset locked in their brains. You try and cut and paste ideas together in your head in order to attack those that you disagree with, even if the two topics are COMPLETELY UNRELATED. Do yourself a favor, stop drinking the kool-aid, it's been spiked with drugs by the media to get you to keep watching. :wink:

J.B.

04-25-2009, 12:19 AM

Imagine if the tables were turned (http://www.mattbors.com/archives/513.html).

So, let's be clear.

Do you believe that Sarah Palin is an extremist comparable to members of Al' Qaeda?

Buzzard

04-25-2009, 01:24 AM

I said your mom and awaited your response to demonstrate how much a smug tight ass you are, completely devoid of any sense of humor.

You sir... Are garbage.

and for the record the world hates us and always will hate us.

We are white, Christian and rich.

You must be out of your fing mind if you think the world is ever going to not hate us.

Wow Crisco, two in one day. Apologize to one and throw the insults at another. Nice bypass of the cuss filter again. And to think that you wonder where my moral code comes from.

Crisco

04-27-2009, 01:14 PM

Wow Crisco, two in one day. Apologize to one and throw the insults at another. Nice bypass of the cuss filter again. And to think that you wonder where my moral code comes from.

Witty.

Show me in the bible where saying Fing is against the moral code and I'll happily stop doing it.

Your a smug person and I don't care for you. You think your better then everyone.

News flash Buzzy your crap like the rest of us.

Neezar

04-27-2009, 07:47 PM

Witty.

Show me in the bible where saying Fing is against the moral code and I'll happily stop doing it.

Your a smug person and I don't care for you. You think your better then everyone.

News flash Buzzy your crap like the rest of us.

Cris, I used to feel the same way about this guy. I was angry about him coming around seemingly trying to make us doubt our beliefs, essentially poking holes in our faith. However, I have realized that he hasn't done that with one single person. It appears that he has only caused us to reinforce our beliefs and have us hold to them that much stronger.

I also started to wonder about the why of him coming here. I recognized him the other day. He has been coming here off and on for years. Anyway, as I was pondering over this a possibility occurred to me. He tries to appear so confidient and steady in his belief (or disbelief, if you prefer) yet he still keeps coming back here. Apparently something is compelling him to do so. He is still searching, still seeking, never content. Maybe he isn't so smug after all.

:)
Denise

Buzzard

04-27-2009, 08:11 PM

Witty.

Show me in the bible where saying Fing is against the moral code and I'll happily stop doing it.

Your a smug person and I don't care for you. You think your better then everyone.

News flash Buzzy your crap like the rest of us.

Here Crisco, read this link.

http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=224

Here are a couple passages that you may have missed too.

Ephesians 4:29 (New International Version)

29Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Luke 6:45 (King James Version)

45A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

You project your negative opinions upon me, perhaps it is you and not I who think they are better than everyone else. News flash back to you. I am not crap, nor do I think you are.

Enjoy your day.

Crisco

04-27-2009, 08:15 PM

Cris, I used to feel the same way about this guy. I was angry about him coming around seemingly trying to make us doubt our beliefs, essentially poking holes in our faith. However, I have realized that he hasn't done that with one single person. It appears that he has only caused us to reinforce our beliefs and have us hold to them that much stronger.

I also started to wonder about the why of him coming here. I recognized him the other day. He has been coming here off and on for years. Anyway, as I was pondering over this a possibility occurred to me. He tries to appear so confidient and steady in his belief (or disbelief, if you prefer) yet he still keeps coming back here. Apparently something is compelling him to do so. He is still searching, still seeking, never content. Maybe he isn't so smug after all.

:)
Denise

Nicely put.

Lots of wisdom to be found in that post and maybe something he didn't even realize about himself.

I learn a lot about myself everytime someone pushes my buttons and I realize I have a very macho personality and my first instinct when someone makes me angry is this feeling that I need to challenge them. To put myself in there and say F you buddy I'll put the stamp on you.

I'm still working and learning on the right way to handle things like that. I grew up in a neighborhood that was a lot like jail. If someone disrespected you or took something from you had to get it back as fast a possible.

Even though I get older I get stuck with a lot of the habbits I had as a youngster including my temper haha.

Crisco

04-27-2009, 08:23 PM

Here Crisco, read this link.

http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=224

Here are a couple passages that you may have missed too.

You project your negative opinions upon me, perhaps it is you and not I who think they are better than everyone else. News flash back to you. I am not crap, nor do I think you are.

Enjoy your day.

While it could be argued that the things I've said to you where not all ment in mean spirit.

I project my negative opinions on you because you represent the opposite of what I hold to be true. I being a fallen human being sometimes have difficulty communicating my feelings in the proper manner all the time.

I do not care for your opinions Buzzard and your stance on life and God make me fear for your soul and that of any children you might bring into the world because they wouldn't receive a guiding hand toward God. I know this all sounds silly to you.

Often my fear translates to anger and frustration because you are simply one of those people that in unreachable at this point in time and I fear I'll do even worse by you by pushing to hard and miscommunicating scaring you away for ever.

I said we are crap because in the eyes of God we are not good enough. We fall short everytime because of our very nature and origins.

As for concretekid, he and myself had a previous history that had very little to do with you at all so understand why I snapped at you because you failed to keep your nose out of it.

Again my bravado got the best of me. Sorry.

Buzzard

04-28-2009, 12:57 AM

While it could be argued that the things I've said to you where not all ment in mean spirit.

I project my negative opinions on you because you represent the opposite of what I hold to be true. I being a fallen human being sometimes have difficulty communicating my feelings in the proper manner all the time.

I do not care for your opinions Buzzard and your stance on life and God make me fear for your soul and that of any children you might bring into the world because they wouldn't receive a guiding hand toward God. I know this all sounds silly to you.

Often my fear translates to anger and frustration because you are simply one of those people that in unreachable at this point in time and I fear I'll do even worse by you by pushing to hard and miscommunicating scaring you away for ever.

I said we are crap because in the eyes of God we are not good enough. We fall short everytime because of our very nature and origins.

As for concretekid, he and myself had a previous history that had very little to do with you at all so understand why I snapped at you because you failed to keep your nose out of it.

Again my bravado got the best of me. Sorry.

It's all good. I apologize if I have offended you, as it has not been my intent. Enjoy your evening.

atomdanger

04-28-2009, 10:08 PM

Agreed.:laugh:

I'm kind of amazed that, after about 6 years, we're still under 5,000 dead in Iraq. Just going by casualty rates, that would make the Iraq War the most successful war in American history.

In WW2 alone, there were over 416,000 US military soldiers killed and that war was far from being a failure for the United States.

For some reason I think we've forgotten thats its war.
not a tea party, but WAR.

people die, if people want a war with no deaths, well it isn't going to happen.
Maybe most people don't realize they really really shoot and kill one another in a real war,
or something??? I don't know.

I am certainly not happy that over 4K american soldiers are dead,
but that isn't too bad for a war that has lasted this long.

J.B.

04-28-2009, 11:25 PM

For some reason I think we've forgotten thats its war.
not a tea party, but WAR.

people die, if people want a war with no deaths, well it isn't going to happen.
Maybe most people don't realize they really really shoot and kill one another in a real war,
or something??? I don't know.

I am certainly not happy that over 4K american soldiers are dead,
but that isn't too bad for a war that has lasted this long.

They did not forget it's war, they just don't agree with the cause and don't see the bigger picture. I would have agreed with liberating Iraq from an evil dictator like Saddam even if 9/11 would have never happened. We should have finished the job the first time.

CAVEMAN

04-30-2009, 10:07 PM

I'm a little confused with Concrete Kids post. Is he trying to portray that Obama has fixed this economy just because the stock market has experienced a rally? If that is the case, he has no understanding of economics whatsoever!:laugh:

Crisco

04-30-2009, 10:20 PM

You know there is only one thing to say about this post.

Concrete kid hates America & freedom.

There I said it we were all thinking it.

ufcfan2

04-30-2009, 10:49 PM

I said your mom and awaited your response to demonstrate how much a smug tight ass you are, completely devoid of any sense of humor.

You sir... Are garbage.

and for the record the world hates us and always will hate us.

We are white, Christian and rich.
You must be out of your fing mind if you think the world is ever going to not hate us.
Umm, I'm not rich nor christian so u got 1/3 right :happydancing:
The world hates us but they also admire us to some degree,now I think a good portion of the world gave us some respect back with Obama election. How long that will last remains to be seen as its way too early to define his administration long term outcome. My opinion is we need to really work with Canada/Mexico to make this part of the world to flourish more. I mean Mexico needs some help, I guess we could invade them and rebuild them like we do with everyone else:Whistle:

I don't wanna go back into debating was it right/wrong going to war. Any loss of life is too much and tragic. I don't agree with the war in Iraq,but thought the war in Afghanastan is justified more so.

Neezar

05-01-2009, 05:52 PM

Umm, I'm not rich nor christian so u got 1/3 right :happydancing:
The world hates us but they also admire us to some degree,now I think a good portion of the world gave us some respect back with Obama election. ......