As disappointing as this loss was, I can't help but be excited for the future. I've never been a big draft guy until these last 2 seasons. Seeing what this FO can do with unheralded players is ridiculous. Plus an entire offseason for Wagner, Wilson, Irvin, Sweezy, Smith, Scruggs and Guy? That's just crazy...I for one am very excited for this offseason.

Leading up to the draft may be my favorite football time of the year. There's just something about the scouting, etc. The draft is an absolutely magical day for me, probably my favorite day of the year.

Here's to hoping we get Ansah or Hopkins!

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I was really excited, but the recent emerging issues on the D-line the last two weeks worry me a lot, and kind of ruin the fun. This is a great draft to grab a TE/WR in the late 1st. It's not a great draft to grab DL without a massive trade up. And I think we can safely say that isn't happening.

I pray we get Melton/Starks and that Osi/Clemons have at least one more year in the tank. I don't see a quick fix for what ails us in this draft.

kearly wrote:I was really excited, but the recent emerging issues on the D-line the last two weeks worry me a lot, and kind of ruin the fun. This is a great draft to grab a TE/WR in the late 1st. It's not a great draft to grab DL without a massive trade up. And I think we can safely say that isn't happening.

I pray we get Melton/Starks and that Osi/Clemons have at least one more year in the tank. I don't see a quick fix for what ails us in this draft.

Sutton screwed us by going back to ASU! He was going to be a perfect addition.

Can't wait to watch a draft where I'm not stressing about quarterbacks.

I also am curious to see how the media handles Seattle's draft this year. Say Seattle makes a bunch of unconventional picks that don't line up with consensus draft boards.....do these guys have the balls to lambaste our draft again if it goes against their groupthink knowing how unbelievably wrong they turned out to be the last time? My guess is they don't have any balls but'll do it anyways.

kearly wrote:I was really excited, but the recent emerging issues on the D-line the last two weeks worry me a lot, and kind of ruin the fun. This is a great draft to grab a TE/WR in the late 1st. It's not a great draft to grab DL without a massive trade up. And I think we can safely say that isn't happening.

I pray we get Melton/Starks and that Osi/Clemons have at least one more year in the tank. I don't see a quick fix for what ails us in this draft.

All I know is, I became a believer in .Net the last draft. I remember around this time last year, someone posted up highlights of RW. Never following college ball, I had no idea how good he was. After watching the clips, I was sold.

Another poster (actually several posters) talked up and posted clips of Turbin and I was sold (sounds like I'm an easy sell).

Anyways before the draft, I posted on FB, "two players I really hope we draft are Russell Wilson and Robert Turbin". I looked like a damn genius to everyone.lol.

You guys definitely know your stuff though, and I've learned a lot more on here the past year about football, then my previous 15 years combined.

hawksfan515 wrote:Hopefully our run D problems are because of Red's plantar fasciatis.

It's a growing list of worries for me:

-The Red Bryant role has yet to be fully acquitted in 3 seasons, and it was a massive failure down the stretch in 2012.

-Plantar Fasciatis tends to be persistent. I know, I've had to deal with it myself.

-Clemons ACL and age (32 next season)

-Irvin is not the answer at LEO

Basically, for Seattle's D-line to rebound next year, you'd need Bryant to heal his foot, play at a higher level than we've yet to see, Clemons would need to pull an AP type ACL recovery, and/or Irvin would have to turn a multi-dimensional player (which is I think the least likely of all these scenarios). That's incredibly unrealistic.

IMO, 3/4 of our line needs to be upgraded (Irvin is just fine as a situational player). Otherwise, things could actually get worse. And considering how atrocious our D-line was over the last 10 games (near dead last in run defense and pass rush), that's saying something. I am hoping for a real sense of urgency from our FO regarding the D-line this offseason.

hawksfan515 wrote:Hopefully our run D problems are because of Red's plantar fasciatis.

It's a growing list of worries for me:

-The Red Bryant role has yet to be fully acquitted in 3 seasons, and it was a massive failure down the stretch in 2012.

-Plantar Fasciatis tends to be persistent. I know, I've had to deal with it myself.

-Clemons ACL and age (32 next season)

-Irvin is not the answer at LEO

Basically, for Seattle's D-line to rebound next year, you'd need Bryant to heal his foot, play at a higher level than we've yet to see, Clemons would need to pull an AP type ACL recovery, and/or Irvin would have to turn a multi-dimensional player (which is I think the least likely of all these scenarios). That's incredibly unrealistic.

IMO, 3/4 of our line needs to be upgraded (Irvin is just fine as a situational player). Otherwise, things could actually get worse. And considering how atrocious our D-line was over the last 10 games (near dead last in run defense and pass rush), that's saying something. I am hoping for a real sense of urgency from our FO regarding the D-line this offseason.

Spot on and I truly think after yesterday PC& JS will be on the same page.

Yeah we definitely need some improvement on our defensive line, I think the Red Bryant experiment needs to end I would understand playing big Red there if we got a true stonewall defender and were first in run d but we are not. We made Turner look good and I watched him play the Saints twice this year (brothers a Saints fan there D is awful) and he didn't look anywhere near that good against them. The trade off in pass rush for run defense simply isn't worth it. I for one hope we pick up a conventional DE to play opposite Clem.

On another note was sad to hear Jared Abbrederis is staying for his senior year, we need to put a few more weapons around RW to help him develop further and transform this into a truly potent offense.

I would make an argument about Irvin. I am not sure what that argument should be other then I am sure Pete knew in many ways, Irvin is a project. Pete and Irvin have more history between them then just this year and I suspect there is ability in him that Pete knows how to get out of him.

Red Bryant, super special teams guy... and maybe there is more to the line then just that he hasn't been the same, but hasn't been and I think the unconventional nature of him out there has been exposed. Yet one nasty addition to the line, that special 3 tech guy, and who knows at this point.

I am excited about the draft though because I can't imagine guessing who these guys (John and Pete) will have on the big board.

Pretty excited, I'm sure we'll be drafting someone that plays at East Coast Butt-Crack U who tears the league up his rookie season and Kiper/McShay poopoo all over us.

Game changing defensive player is needed at the 1st or 2nd level of the defense (either a LB with speed and size to blitz and cover in addition to DE or speedy interior DT rusher). Perhaps a big play WR or TE and another offensive guard that could play tackle if needed as well(sometimes, you just outscore them to win).