We don't know that they have a save it for a sequel attitude. Look at batman begins, they chose the villains they thought were best for the story, and didn't pay attention to previous movies. I'm sure they were doing the same when writing this.

And this is all aside from the fact that Zod is just terribly boring from a visual standpoint, compared to most of Superman's rogues.

Unless Snyder uses the Russian's red mask and cape look, which is doubtful.

well who's to say they'll be limited by the comic visuals? of course you must make Superman look like Superman, but General Zod doesn't have a definitive look. i'm sure the concept artists will have a field day and go crazy with his duds. it just depends on the route Snyder wants to go with Zod's look.

if the rumor about Ursa is true, then it's pretty clear they've changed her into a blonde. it's pretty obvious to me they're not sticking to the previous films or comics as far as villain visuals are concerned.

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worked for Nolan's Batman. worked for Spider-Man 2. worked for Iron Man 2.

just calm down. no one's saying we don't wanna see some awesome action. we're just saying that we want them to have some rich material for a possible sequel.

None of those felt compromised for the sake of sequels. You know the type of movie I'm talking about, the ones that pull their punches deliberately. See also: GI Joe: Rise of Cobra. Who cares about their rise? I just want to see Cobra Commander & Destro in full character; we may not even see a sequel.

I'm not saying this will be the case with Superman. Just that I hope it's not.

thing is though, we're not the target audience (the general populace). the target audience most likely don't even remember General Zod from Superman 2. if they do then they barely remember...

Yeah and Superman Returns wasn't received that well in terms of box office returns even though it wasn't a bad movie per say but not the movie to start a new SM trilogy.

So i'd say the GA and some of the fans are pretty much in line on this. I'm willing to bet if they had to pick between Zod and Brainiac or at least a movie including both which could work the would totally pick Brainiac or the latter. Brainiac might reveal himself more towards the end and escapes but Zod is defeated.

No reason the film can't have one large villain conspiring with Zod and gang and then realized they were being used by Brainiac as well or something along those lines.

Anyway we'll see as more news is revealed. Also to anyone saying (Not you Dorky) there should hold out on the action thats defintely not the way to go. This needs several more and the most any Superman movie has had. Using other Superman clones basically seems a little underwhelming. Another major flaw of Returns. The audience wants a fresh story with very good action sequences not several different moments of awe acts of Supes. No reason why both couldn't be combined with the level of VFX/CGI progression.

This WB last shot at keeping Superman right? Either go big or go home in this case. Just my two cents.

We'll see though as we learn more there's probably more to this anyway

None of those felt compromised for the sake of sequels. You know the type of movie I'm talking about, the ones that pull their punches deliberately. See also: GI Joe: Rise of Cobra. Who cares about their rise? I just want to see Cobra Commander & Destro in full character; we may not even see a sequel.

I'm not saying this will be the case with Superman. Just that I hope it's not.

I don't know man, the equation I'm seeing heavily suggests we're in for a treat. Superman versus Ursa, Non, and Zod in Metropolis, with all their powers coming into play. With SNYDER behind the camera? Gotta be honest with you, the potential there absolutely obliterates every known comic book action scene known to date. Put together.

Lex as the baddie would be cutting us short. I see this as a solid play at starting off the ground running, while still leaving plenty of fire for the end.

I don't know man, the equation I'm seeing heavily suggests we're in for a treat. Superman versus Ursa, Non, and Zod in Metropolis, with all their powers coming into play. With SNYDER behind the camera? Gotta be honest with you, the potential there absolutely obliterates every known comic book action scene known to date. Put together.

Thats kinda how my trilogy would be...First movie lex makes metallo in attemping to out do superman, fails...next movie lex tries to clone him and it mutates into doomsday and they kill each other...last movie lex clones again with more advanced tech and gets it right, but then it decomposes and becomes bizarro.

I know that a lot of people are disappointed, but as a non-comics reader not lamenting the villains we won't see (because I'm confident we'll see Brainiac in the sequel if not this one), I'm psyched at the prospect of a modern day non-Donner version of Zod. Well, I have to admit, I'm mainly just psyched that Supes could finally get into a Super-brawl with the villain.

I don't care if he's an easy pick, I still love the idea of Gerard Butler for the role. I think Viggo Mortensen could also be good, but he's about as likely to do it as Daniel Day-Lewis I'd imagine. And it's too bad Fassbender's Magneto (and I still want him to be Green Arrow), because he'd be excellent.

But you want some outside-the-box options? Here are a few (some more outside-the-box than others):

-Vincent Cassel (I wanted him for Brainiac, but someone else suggested he'd make a better Zod, and I liked the sound of it)

-Rufus Sewell (it would be Tristan + Isolde reunion! But honestly, I think he'd be a bit boring)

-Sean Bean

-Kevin McKidd

-Javier Bardem

-Josh Brolin

-Eric Bana

-Jon Hamm (yep, you read that right. For the irony!)

-James Purefoy

I'm not particularly rooting for any of them, just throwing out names so we're not just debating "Butler vs. No Butler."

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Crap, crap, megacrap. There's so much Superman material to bring to the screen, I don't understand why they would choose to rehash one of the only two major villains that have already been done. It makes absolutely no sense.

It seems like, after Superman Returns, the very last thing they'd want to do is another rehash. Do something new, goddammit.

Crap, crap, megacrap. There's so much Superman material to bring to the screen, I don't understand why they would choose to rehash one of the only two major villains that have already been done. It makes absolutely no sense.

It seems like, after Superman Returns, the very last thing they'd want to do is another rehash. Do something new, goddammit.

Completely agree.

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God, I hope that Zod and Ursa are prisoners of the evil..BRAINIAC! They'll be portrayed
as heroes and victims and then turn on Kal-el in the sequel!

Ralph Fiennes was one of the first ones that came to mind for me as well, and he could've been great, but I think he's playing a villain a little too often these days (especially if he's doing so in the next Bond).

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