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Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by Kandahar

Because bullying other students affects their ability to learn.

Because stuff that students do off-campus can impact their own or other students' ability to learn.

Many things people do might affect them at their workplace or school, but that doesn't make it any of the businesses or schools concern. The school day starts and ends and that is where their reach lies. If it floods into the school that is one thing, but if the school has to reach into the kids private life that is another. Simply affecting how kids learn is too broad and what you ask for with Internet guidance is too reaching outside of the school

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by joko104

On another thread it has been brought up that some schools are taking punitive actions students they discover use the "N" word on the Internet. If young people should be punished for using racist or bigoted words, obviously adults should.

Should racist and bigoted words and expressions be outlawed?

Words themselves cannot be outlawed yet if a citizens is using those words to incite violence, criminal activity, harm, harass or create injustice to other citizens it can be against the law. i would say it needs to be considered on a case by case basis.

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

This is another one of those "not only no, but hell no" questions.

"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."-C G Jung

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by joko104

On another thread it has been brought up that some schools are taking punitive actions students they discover use the "N" word on the Internet. If young people should be punished for using racist or bigoted words, obviously adults should.

Should racist and bigoted words and expressions be outlawed?

of course not. schools that do that should be hit with 42 USC S 1983 civil lawsuits for the deprivation of constitutional rights under the color of state law.

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by rocket88

The real issue here is that people don't want to be called out for what they say. Nowheree in the
Constitution are you guaranteed no consequences for your free speech.

If someone punches you in the face for merely using a term they don't like they will go to jail and you should sue them. If my son were to tell a joke and some adult took offense and punched him I would kill the adult and I doubt I would be charged

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by joko104

On another thread it has been brought up that some schools are taking punitive actions students they discover use the "N" word on the Internet. If young people should be punished for using racist or bigoted words, obviously adults should.

Should racist and bigoted words and expressions be outlawed?

Your comparison is a fail.

Adults would be "punished" if they agreed to a Code of Conduct at work, as an example. And that'd be up to and including firing. Policemen and firemen routinely sign Code of Conduct agreements for their actions on and off the job. If your boss called you a nigger, I'd venture to guess his ass would be grass like...immediately. Adults could be fired sans contract for using "nigger" at work. Adults would be thrown out of the library book club for calling someone a kike. Adults are punished.

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by rocket88

The real issue here is that people don't want to be called out for what they say. Nowheree in the
Constitution are you guaranteed no consequences for your free speech.

Yep, you issue it you own it where speech is concerned. I have no problem with hateful words being punished socially, but legally no freakin' way, rights are too important to just hand back and even words we don't like must be protected. That said if a racist got punched in the face for calling the wrong guy the N word I won't shed a tear.

Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

Re: Criminalize racist and bigoted words?

Originally Posted by Dion

Words themselves cannot be outlawed yet if a citizens is using those words to incite violence, criminal activity, harm, harass or create injustice to other citizens it can be against the law. i would say it needs to be considered on a case by case basis.

If someone corners a person using slurs and threatening language it becomes fighting words, the potential victim has every right to fight back or stop that agression against them. Speech has a very precise circle of protection, hate speech with no other harm but to cause anger is protected, hate speech that seeks to induce harm through various degrees of violence, introduces a public endangerment or defamation may be restricted.

Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.