Since you are of good faith and made claims, I would like to see proof that we have been getting "like 25 000 off of Patreon for months", that our mod was indeed based on stolen code ?

It isn't a community mod, it is our mod, I don't see you crying about SKSE (or any other mod for that matter) not allowing forks or not allowing people to sell their work, so why are you here doing this ? If you are unhappy don't use the mod, or heck since you are a programmer make an online mod and distribute it however you like. You don't get to dictate what people do with their work.

On behalf of the Skyrim Together team, we wish to direct an apology to Ian and his team behind SKSE. We have confirmed the use of protected code and as such have removed any and all dependencies, associated content, or related code per their request. We will be reconstructing anything that was made possible by the use of SKSE code of considered in violation.

There is no excuse as to why this code has remained in the codebase for this longand was distributed without credit or acknowledgement. Going forward we will do our utmost best to respect the SKSE team and their work and ensure the license request is maintained in the long run.

Another comment was made on this sub by user Lonogan1 stating the following:

The closed beta ended a while ago and the devs are currently working on fixing all of the bugs found during the beta, removing some legacy code from SKSE that had failed to be removed earlier in development when they had been told by SKSE that they couldn’t have the licenses for their code...

I understand that from a software developer perspective it can take time to remove foundational code from your codebase. But then you still have the betas anyway using the stolen code ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But furthermore in that same thread user DubbethTheSecond asks why you guys are not allowed to use the SKSE codebase, where Nightlark192 clarifies:

More specifically, the main ST dev broke the license agreement for SKSE by modifying and distributing a copy of SKSE after being told not to. Even though SKSE source code is available, the license is not open source in the "do whatever you want" way that most people associate with open source. The SKSE website also specifically says not to distribute a copy without asking first and getting an exception from the SKSE devs.

This claim was never disputed by anyone on this sub. Including developers. So really, if you had just done what you were supposed to when working with SKSE from the start, all of this could have been avoided. You could have avoided a massive shitstorm, but here we are!

I guess asking for forgiveness rather than permission isn't always the best policy after all.

Notice how we earned more than 25 000 just one month and not "for months" ? It didn't drop because of SKSE at all, it dropped because the beta ended and people who pledged for beta access just removed the pledge.

Regarding the comments made by people not affiliated with the team, they are both wrong, the code was legacy, included by the build system because "**.cpp" but not used as we have been working with Skyrim SE way before SKSE64 was available so it's basically impossible to claim that we were based on it since it wasn't available while we were working on the mod. I never distributed a modified copy of SKSE, they were just mad for some reason that I didn't want my code to be open-source while their code isn't open source and never asked other SKSE plugins to be open-source before.

Still threatening the entire comunity for the mistake of a few is not the right way to go about this. I dont mean to sound as harsh as i did, but when you have such a large comunity that you are inderectly in charge of. Some professionalism is expected.

No, we are making this for pleasure, to learn things, because we think it's a cool project. We are not making this to start throwing lawsuits around, if that were to happen it would not be a side project anymore.

In this scenario a company already has the server. All removing the files from public access would do is make it more difficult to use Skyrim Together for free. Unless you happen to have a local copy of the server and client you’d be forced to use this hypothetical paid service.

Because we spent 8 years making a mod so we can take people to court. Especially international law suits, take years, costs tens of thousands, we are not a law firm, we are just making this for pleasure.

You are correct, every time we change something on the main branch (that can mean a direct code push or a merge from another branch) an automated build happens and if everything builds correctly it becomes the latest version and that is why you download.

It takes ~10 minutes for the whole project to be built and released so it doesn't make much sense to only run it at night especially with a team on different timezones where the concept of night makes little sense ^^

It's in the rules, don't tag me or get banned. We wrote specifically that we would not provide support for this as it isn't designed to be playable, just here to test for hardcore people. Also the discord server has 85 000 members, do you think it's reasonable that every single person on the server gets private one on one support from us ? Grow up.