Did you mean to actually give a firm 2012 date in your statement, by the way?

I thought you lot were keeping an 'open mind' about such things...

2012 is the "most probable" time frame - and I say that based on sources other than ZetaTalk. If ZetaTalk was the "only" source of Pole Shift speculation, I wouldn't be nearly as supportive as I am - in fact, I'd probably even be a "debunker". (Imagine that!)

Did you mean to actually give a firm 2012 date in your statement, by the way?

I thought you lot were keeping an 'open mind' about such things...

2012 is the "most probable" time frame - and I say that based on sources other than ZetaTalk. If ZetaTalk was the "only" source of Pole Shift speculation, I wouldn't be nearly as supportive as I am - in fact, I'd probably even be a "debunker". (Imagine that!)

Then why are you 'max' on the Zetas?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

The name was chosen in the "beginning" - when my enthusiasm was MUCH greater. However, the "debunker wars" have exposed weaknesses in BOTH camps, and I am not beneath saying that there are "problems" with ZetaTalk - which I have acknowledged along the way. My "extremism" is only a DIRECT response the extremism of the debunker camp - who deny the possibility of "any" future pole shift - not just a "PX" instigated one (for which I have indeed lost some "enthusiasm"). Still, the alarm Nancy is sounding I think is IMPORTANT and should not be dismissed "wholesale" - as the debunkers invite everyone to do through ANY means available.

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

The only 'means' we employ in denying Nancy's ludicrous claims, Max, are reason, logic, and facts.

That's why we win every argument. And why the bunkers always lose.

Quoting: Returner 997

That's not even REMOTELY true - and you know it!!!

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

Show me ONE argument the bunkers have one. One instance in which Nancy was PROVEN to be correct when she said something that conflicted with science. Just one.

Go ahead.

Make my day.

Quoting: Returner 997

That would require of you TWO admissions:

1) That Nancy was "Right" about anything.2) That your "precious" SCIENCE was in fact wrong about anything. (With said error being successfully demonstrated by anyone other than another PEER-REVIEWED "scientist")

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

you know they say nut jobs come in all shapes in sizes but you mam come in whale size. quit digging up bullshit on the internet and don't quit your day job because " planet x " ain't&#65279; coming near our solar system any time soon so quit yapping your nut bag trash on youtube K ?

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

you know they say nut jobs come in all shapes in sizes but you mam come in whale size. quit digging up bullshit on the internet and don't quit your day job because " planet x " ain't&#65279; coming near our solar system any time soon so quit yapping your nut bag trash on youtube K ?

Nancy, I believe is probably her worst own enemy. I mean after all these years of failure the woman carries on as if she was never ever wrong in her predictions. Most folk are not as stupid and gullible as her few followers here and at places like the Poleshit Ningy. Even originating on the internet has a shelf life and zetatalk's use by date expired in 2003.

Ms LIEDer just keeps putting a new "date" label every year on a stale and rotting product.

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Volcanic eruptions in the Caribbean and Iceland are nothing new. Show us how these eruptions are different than previous ones. Present evidence that "Planet X" is responsible for them. If you can't then:

Volcanic eruptions in the Caribbean and Iceland are nothing new. Show us how these eruptions are different than previous ones. Present evidence that "Planet X" is responsible for them. If you can't then:

Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Well. it is a little odd is it not? Nancy predicts volcanic eruptions exactly where there are active volcanoes. Who didn't?

Well. it is a little odd is it not? Nancy predicts volcanic eruptions exactly where there are active volcanoes. Who didn't?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 924782

Now wait for it. Little zetacultie, the Melfster, will be along soon to add his pathetic spin to the rather obvious.....Nancy has never ever CORRECTLY predicted anything UNIQUE. for example Ms LIEDer's "list" of "weather and natural events" related predictions from the past are nothing more than generalizations of what occurs naturally and frequently on our planet. The assertion that her fantasy rogue planet is the cause of any type of "weather or naturally occurring" related event on our planet is quickly debunked. When one goes back over history and details previous decades and decades of such "weather and natural occurring" events then one can only conclude that Ms LIEDer's rogue planet has ALWAYS been parked besides our sun since at least recorded history. Such is sadly the pathetic "logic" of one, Nancy LIEDer.

Show me ONE argument the bunkers have one. One instance in which Nancy was PROVEN to be correct when she said something that conflicted with science. Just one.

Go ahead.

Make my day.

That would require of you TWO admissions:

1) That Nancy was "Right" about anything.2) That your "precious" SCIENCE was in fact wrong about anything. (With said error being successfully demonstrated by anyone other than another PEER-REVIEWED "scientist")

Volcanic eruptions in the Caribbean and Iceland are nothing new. Show us how these eruptions are different than previous ones. Present evidence that "Planet X" is responsible for them. If you can't then:

Well. it is a little odd is it not? Nancy predicts volcanic eruptions exactly where there are active volcanoes. Who didn't?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 924782

One of the most destructive volcanic eruptions in the history of Iceland began in the early morning of January 23, 1973, near the Nation's premier fishing port, the town of Vestmannaeyjar, on Heimaey, the only inhabited isle in the Vestmannaeyjar volcanic archipelago. This 28-page booklet discusses the impact of the 1973 volcanic eruption of Eldfell on the island of Heimaey. Before the eruption was over, approximately one-third of the town of Vestmannaeyjer had been obliterated, but, more importantly, the potential damage probably was reduced by the spraying of seawater onto the advancing lava f!ows, causing them to be slowed, stopped, or diverted from the undamaged portion of the town. -- Williams and Moore

Well. it is a little odd is it not? Nancy predicts volcanic eruptions exactly where there are active volcanoes. Who didn't?

Now wait for it. Little zetacultie, the Melfster, will be along soon to add his pathetic spin to the rather obvious.....Nancy has never ever CORRECTLY predicted anything UNIQUE. for example Ms LIEDer's "list" of "weather and natural events" related predictions from the past are nothing more than generalizations of what occurs naturally and frequently on our planet. The assertion that her fantasy rogue planet is the cause of any type of "weather or naturally occurring" related event on our planet is quickly debunked. When one goes back over history and details previous decades and decades of such "weather and natural occurring" events then one can only conclude that Ms LIEDer's rogue planet has ALWAYS been parked besides our sun since at least recorded history. Such is sadly the pathetic "logic" of one, Nancy LIEDer.

Quoting: The Lone Ranger

The wise "observer" will consider the ENTIRE BODY of work, rather than bits and pieces.

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

The wise "observer" will consider the ENTIRE BODY of work, rather than bits and pieces.

Then it would be very embarrassing to list all the many timesshe has claimed that 2012 is too far out in the future andthat the "pole shift" would happen before then, right?

Quoting: DrPostman

It's *NOT* 2012 yet!

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

And when 2012 rolls around, MaxiMelf, what excuse will you use to keep being Nancy's lapdog?

Will you say:

"I meant 2015""Nancy was using an old calendar and the real date is 2021""The Zetas used their Massively Overclocked Cosmic Computer to roll back time, and it's 1987 again, pardon me while I put on these parachute pants""Planet X came and wreaked havoc on the Earth and you are all dead ha ha ha ha ha."

By the way, your Volar persona has turned into a nasty little bitch. I suggest you retire it. It's doing far more harm than good for your 'cause.'

And when 2012 rolls around, MaxiMelf, what excuse will you use to keep being Nancy's lapdog?

Will you say:

"I meant 2015""Nancy was using an old calendar and the real date is 2021""The Zetas used their Massively Overclocked Cosmic Computer to roll back time, and it's 1987 again, pardon me while I put on these parachute pants""Planet X came and wreaked havoc on the Earth and you are all dead ha ha ha ha ha."

By the way, your Volar persona has turned into a nasty little bitch. I suggest you retire it. It's doing far more harm than good for your 'cause.'

Quoting: Returner 997

I am not Volar.

The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.