Comments on: Who do we like for President? Not a damn one of these clownshttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072
The oldest political news site on the InternetSun, 02 Aug 2015 05:00:36 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.3By: Lillibet Hunthttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-206375
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:39:42 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-206375Sandy, I agree we need to get the Republicans and Democrats working together. I fear the solution runs deeper though. We need to change the effect of money, limiting funds given for campaigns rather than expanding the definition of “person” to allow ever more money into the system.

Both parties are playing toward the fringes, while Americans are firmly in the middle. Those that want government run by law, not men, are out of luck. Government runs on the money of men. (“Men” being used in a gender free, sexual preference free manner.) The fringes are now defined and controlled by which money runs what.

At this point, while the Supreme Court decides things based on political preference and not precedent, we’ve got no chance to change a thing in 2012.

When Congress, along with the Judiciary, decide things based on special interests that favor corporate interests, we have fascism by fiat. Executive orders round out this rule, also by fiat, and favoring the money interests. Over all, the Federal Reserve runs what is left to manipulate, based solely on banker and corporate desires.

Citizens, who are the ones paying the bills as individual humans, have no chance in such a system, nor do their numbers matter. All that matters is money.

Our only hope is campaign reform. Unless money and politics are separated, our systems will continually fail and nothing will change for the better.

People with a firmly held belief who are confronted with facts contradictory against such generally return to that belief even more strongly than they held it before.

This has been studied, with carefully-designed double-blinding, and it’s what people do.

We’d probably get a much happier government if the bonobos selected our officials.

J.

]]>By: Jonhttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205606
Sun, 17 Jun 2012 05:57:34 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205606Which is why wrecking public education is so high on their priority list. Them School Board elections have paid off, in a big way. Ignorance is Strength – to those who’ve done much to keep everyone else that way.

Write wacky ‘zero tolerance’ regulations. Enforce completely implausible punishments for trivial offenses. Make the rules so complicated and involved that everyone’s guilty of some infraction somewhere, and then slaughter those you don’t like.

Sue when your kiddie gets any grade less than “Stellar!!”. Sue for them not teaching things, then sue again when they teach something you either don’t like or don’t understand.

Sue to push your religion into science, then sue again when it gets pushed out.

Eviscerate the textbooks (while accepting bribes from publishers). Make them so equivocal that they’re useless. Give them a trivial rewrite every couple of years so the district has to buy an entire set of new ones.

And sue, sue, and sue again until everyone from the principal to the janitor is petrified with lawsuit fear.

Then cut taxes, cut funding, bust up the unions, impose giant and inflexible regimes of standard testing and punish those who deviate.

Lock schools down like prisons. Raid them with SWAT teams. Let the infrastructure rot in the name of ‘excessive government spending’. Squash independence, and home-school your kids anyhow.

Oh, and then sue for tax dollars, those few that remain, so you can have a ‘voucher’, aka public money, funneled to private institutions, mostly including yourself and those who believe in the same number and type of God(s) you do.

It’s not a bad strategy, actually. It worked. In the same sort of way that firebombing Tokyo in 1945 “worked”.

There’s a pet peeve. You’d almost think I had school-age children here.

J.

]]>By: glennk1949http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205557
Sun, 17 Jun 2012 02:44:14 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205557If we didn’t have the Senate ( a manifestly undemocratic body) I would agree were a democracy of sorts, but as long as we have the Roman Senate crafted onto the Parliament were less of a democracy then England even with a King/Queen.
]]>By: Tony Magazinehttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205417
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:39:05 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205417Corrected Comments:

Hello Mr. Thompson,

People just do not get it when you tell the truth and facts to them. It does not make a bit of difference what political, religious, ethnicity, or gender affiliation
one aligns themselves.

Just because you call things the way they are is a strength not a weakness. You are old, and, wise enough to call them as you see them. I am a retired military person and like you I am beyond being polite when it comes telling the truth and facts.

By the way, I have been a non-partisan registered vote for decades. You take care.

]]>By: davidhttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205415
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:30:45 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205415we are living in a failed society. realize it.
]]>By: Sandy Pricehttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205392
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:42:21 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205392Lil, it may be up to us to start fixing the problem. From my point of view, it should start by working to reform the Republican Party to get with the program and start working for instead of against the Democrats. If the Democrats sat down and came up with 25 new programs it would simply trigger the Republicans into fighting the programs. I think we know the problem sits on racism and that would make it 4-times harder to expose it.

My living all my life in California has made it impossible for me to recognize the attitude that I discovered in Arizona and now even back in California. I live in the center of a retirement community that is quite openly anti gays and racism is very apparent. Hell, I was only gone 12 years and can’t believe what I’m hearing. Sure, my area is filled with gays but in my small golf park it is not an accepted life style. Why?

I’ve got to stop thinking about this which is exagerated by it being an election year.

]]>By: Lillibet Hunthttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205372
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:10:27 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205372Doug, you’ve nailed it again. NONE of the above is my choice, and NONE ain’t on the ballot. NONE should be on the ballot, because without that candidate, voting makes no sense whatsoever.

We’ve allowed corporations to run our country, while ideologues complained too much regulation is the problem, that George W. Bush wasn’t enough of a regulation free sort of politician. Claims that a pure market would have avoided all the problems caused by those hundred$ of Trillion$ of credit default swaps and related financial shenanigans are hollow. The bad acts of banksters brought the world to its knees with bankers the last guys standing. And those dollar donors are funding and running politicians — on both sides of the party divide that is barely a wrinkle in the carpeted halls of government.

We’ve suffered a studied and carefully executed plan of Constitution shredding, aided and abetted by a cadre of justices that seem to believe a paper entity is the equivalent of a living breathing being. The paper “person” is entitled to all the rights the living breathing beings are not entitled to, under the various iterations of military funding bills and safety promoting acts that regulate speech, assembly and approved thoughts.

Candidates are pandering using money that comes from unidentified sources as they promote whatever the money wants. Without the money, they don’t keep or get their jobs.

Money, or more accurately the love of it, is truly the root of the present day political evils, including government run for the few at the expense of the many. Money sets social policy, determines environmental regulation, develops educational standards, makes industry and finance function in any of the myriad possible ways functioning can occur. Money determines wars and money determines peace.

Ideology combined with money gets crusades or cooperation, defines honesty or graft in society, provides a framework for health care providers and patients alike. Money determines how controlling a society will be over its inhabitants, and determines the course of government in the community of nations.

We are thus back to elections, which are referendums on who has what money to obtain which office. None of the current crop deserve a single vote, yet unless and until we achieve transparent control over campaign finance, we’ll get officeholders with the best funding winning the day for any of a myriad of special interests. Sadly, money is not a good indicator of smarts or ethics, nor is it an inverse measure of sycophancy toward the fountainhead of funds by candidates.

This promises to be another election season of disappointment, brought to us all by funding sources we’ll never know about until the next term is well underway, if at all. All together now, say thank you to the folks that brought us Citizens United and legalized purchase and sale of elections.

Stupidity is congenital. Ignorance, on the other hand, is most often self-inflicted.

In a culture where who gets to be the next NFL Super Bowl Champion or who will win the next go-around of America’s Got Talent is now FAR more popular fare among the masses than who we decide to elect to govern us, we are simply “reaping what we, ourselves, have sown”.

And THAT, I believe, is a FAR more apt explanation for the “silly circus” you are now describing.

]]>By: Sandy Pricehttp://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/44072/comment-page-1#comment-205289
Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:26:26 +0000http://www.capitolhillblue.com/?p=44072#comment-205289You are probably right and the government is functioning only for the safety net of the American people. There should be no restrictions on what the government can do and let the money come from China.

On Morning Joe this morning some of the charts were discussed and only 30% of the people are concerned with equality of all Americans. That right there throws me under the bus. I noticed that a group of Evangelicals have finally come up with a final plan to force their own equality standards and will take over how others will be taken care of. Again this throws me under the holy bus and I will never be recognized as being worthy of living in America.

Well, we could not locate any leadership for even the illusion of equality. Americans are comfortable with their white Christian supremacy and cannot step away from this culture for any reason.

It will be interesting to see what a President Romney will do when the Evangelicals finally put him in the White House. They checked their hats in the door this morning and are ready to take over the government. They despise Mormons.

Anyone here ever try to live under the authority of the Mormon Priesthood and the Prophet? Would you all be comfortable with the rejection of African Americans and the Gay community? Somehow I think many are uncomfortable with them living in your neighborhoods anyway.

The concept of equality among Americans is simple and the only safe way for any of us to survive as individuals. But 30% is not enough to make it happen.

How will this bigotry ever end? Of course when Romney is installed into the White House, he will take on Islam and the final war to end all wars will be declared and America will be blasted off the map. Why would anyone even bother to stop it?

It will come down to the words of the Prophet who is committed to his church to destroy all who are not baptised as Mormons.