Maybe I should've started this topic in the Shack. I've been to London, I have West Country family in Old Blighty, and I love her very much, but the idea of a London NFL team just seems like a horrible mistake. Does anyone really want this, or is it a debacle by the league? Are they really considering a new team in London? And expanding the schedule to 18 games?

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

I'd be okay with it. The flight time from NYC to London is 6.2 hours NYC to Seattle is 4.3 hours. I think the NFL would like to get a European League eventually and they have to start somewhere. BTW, I was in Brittany, France this spring and they're playing American football there. I know some colleges in Scotland do as well.

Sgt. Largent wrote:I'd like to see a team in Mexico City before London.

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

I agree with that. A Mexico City team would be far better. I don't want to expand the league, though. Maybe a relo.

Sgt. Largent wrote:I'd like to see a team in Mexico City before London.

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

It's funny because I see a few UK guys that really know the game and take it to a levelthat I never thought possible from outside the U.S ..I have been watching since I was 7but these guys knowledge of the game blows mine away.I have to figure if they had a team it would have plenty of good football minds running it and supporting it.However the distance is not ideal..I wish NFL Europe had worked out years ago.I think they should try that again.We would have another feeder system to the NFL.

The NFL might be trying to expand internationally, but I'm not sure they are all that interested in it, other than annual "events" they can go to. We tried to get them interested a few years back. Granted, it was AA ball but in the end Europeans wouldn't support a full season league. I wonder why they would keep trying.

American football is never going to supplant Soccer as their main sport.

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Sgt. Largent wrote:I'd like to see a team in Mexico City before London.

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

It's funny because I see a few UK guys that really know the game and take it to a levelthat I never thought possible from outside the U.S ..I have been watching since I was 7but these guys knowledge of the game blows mine away.I have to figure if they had a team it would have plenty of good football minds running it and supporting it.However the distance is not ideal..I wish NFL Europe had worked out years ago.I think they should try that again.We would have another feeder system to the NFL.

If NFL Europe is a separate league, sounds great, like the CFL that Warren Moon was disgustingly forced to go through. Your friends sound great. Do they riot for their specific NFL teams?

Sgt. Largent wrote:I'd like to see a team in Mexico City before London.

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

It's funny because I see a few UK guys that really know the game and take it to a levelthat I never thought possible from outside the U.S ..I have been watching since I was 7but these guys knowledge of the game blows mine away.I have to figure if they had a team it would have plenty of good football minds running it and supporting it.However the distance is not ideal..I wish NFL Europe had worked out years ago.I think they should try that again.We would have another feeder system to the NFL.

My sample size is small, maybe I am underestimating the appetite for the NFL in the UK. I really have no idea other than what my handful of buddies tell me.

They enjoy the NFL, it's kind of a late night sports thing to watch.........but like others have said it'll never supplant soccer.

I get the NFL wanting to broaden their market interest, I just think Mexico and even Canada before the UK makes more sense to me interest wise and logistically.

Sgt. Largent wrote:I'd like to see a team in Mexico City before London.

Mexico seems to have a bigger appetite, as well as cultural ties to the southern US as far as rooting interest of teams like the Cowboys, Raiders, Texans, etc. more than England does.

Logistically it's a nightmare for all 31 teams that'd have to travel to London every year or every four years to play whatever team the NFL sticks there...........and other than ex-pats living in England, does the UK even care about the NFL?

I have English friends, and other than making a party out of watching the Super Bowl, very few of them give a rat's ass about the NFL.

It's funny because I see a few UK guys that really know the game and take it to a levelthat I never thought possible from outside the U.S ..I have been watching since I was 7but these guys knowledge of the game blows mine away.I have to figure if they had a team it would have plenty of good football minds running it and supporting it.However the distance is not ideal..I wish NFL Europe had worked out years ago.I think they should try that again.We would have another feeder system to the NFL.

There was a 4some of brits at the jax game last year. They seemed up on the game as well.

For me.....no. I think they like what we are doing just playing a few games over there for the pleasure of it. Go all out and have a team there...naw. I dont even think they would like it as the joy would wear off quickly. I shall ask a friend of a different team what he thinks, too.

Probably wouldn't supplant soccer nor does it need to. We have baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer, golf and football as televised sports in the US. Europe's population could support american football to the degree that we support soccer or hockey for example.

When countries can contribute their own players to the teams people will be even more enthusiastic.

Playing sports with and vs. foreign competitors is a great way to enhance diplomacy and world peace. The more people from around the world commingle the better. Perhaps we'll see each other as neighbors, just like the folks down the street.

TreeRon wrote:Probably wouldn't supplant soccer nor does it need to. We have baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer, golf and football as televised sports in the US. Europe's population could support american football to the degree that we support soccer or hockey for example.

When countries can contribute their own players to the teams people will be even more enthusiastic.

Playing sports with and vs. foreign competitors is a great way to enhance diplomacy and world peace. The more people from around the world commingle the better. Perhaps we'll see each other as neighbors, just like the folks down the street.

Having a league there and South America / Mexico as well as Canada that all have the same basic rules and then playoffs and a World Bowl would be great in about 25 years when everyone gets better. It would be like the Olympics in Basketball for a while where nobody could touch the US until they adopted a bit of our style and not so by the book play.

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Believe it or not but most European countries actually have American Football leagues, albeit very small but they enjoy the sport. So do the Japanese, they have a hard time understanding the game though.

TreeRon wrote:I'd be okay with it. The flight time from NYC to London is 6.2 hours NYC to Seattle is 4.3 hours. I think the NFL would like to get a European League eventually and they have to start somewhere. BTW, I was in Brittany, France this spring and they're playing American football there. I know some colleges in Scotland do as well.

How fast is that jet traveling fro NYC to Seattle? 4.3 hours? Maybe in a cartoon. 6 hours is more like it.

TreeRon wrote:I'd be okay with it. The flight time from NYC to London is 6.2 hours NYC to Seattle is 4.3 hours. I think the NFL would like to get a European League eventually and they have to start somewhere. BTW, I was in Brittany, France this spring and they're playing American football there. I know some colleges in Scotland do as well.

How fast is that jet traveling fro NYC to Seattle? 4.3 hours? Maybe in a cartoon. 6 hours is more like it.

It would be a team with no avenue to acquire talented free agents. Too much of a competitive disadvantage, and I think a team there would perpetually suck.

What highly touted FA or budding star entering his second contract is going to want to:

1. Live in England half the year with its cost of living. 2. Live in England half the year with a culture very different than they are accustomed to. 3.Pay taxes higher than they would have to in the US (guessing...no research)4. Travel to the USA 8 times a year or have to spend a substantial time on the road in a hotel to play multiple games consecutively in the states.

They wouldn’t be able to keep or get anyone. It mught actually hurt the product in the UK long term.

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It would be a logistical nightmare. At the moment the international games are scheduled mid season with a bye week for the teams afterwards. How would it work if the London team got home field advantage in the play offs?