hubiestubert:At this point, the party leadership has decided to back the Idiot Brigade. And they will reap as they sow...

I'm not so sure. They've been trying to push back against them in recent weeks. I think the derp brigade is knowing this and fighting tooth and nail and cranking the rhetoric and threats to primary anyone, regardless of how conservative they claim, if they do anything anti-derper.

the civil war is still going on, and the establishment is trying to have their emancipation proclamation with this immigration reform bill to completely screw over the tea party

There are cracks in the ranks. Between immigration reform and marriage equality, it may split off sections who are going to be faced with either disenfranchising themselves essentially by supporting candidates who have ZERO chance at election, or supporting candidates that will simply ignore their DERP. Either way, the party will reform, but it's going to be a slow process.

Steele said the RNC's autopsy of the 2012 election does nothing to address the substantive reasons why the party fails to connect with minorities, highlighting voter identification laws championed by many Republicans, including Priebus, that disproportionately affect black voters.

Don't worry, Mr. Steele. Marco Rubio has assured everyone that they don't need any new ideas to reel in the Latino voters at the CPAC.

hubiestubert:tallguywithglasseson: Wow. Impressed he said that out loud. He is still a Republican, right?

There are cracks in the ranks. Between immigration reform and marriage equality, it may split off sections who are going to be faced with either disenfranchising themselves essentially by supporting candidates who have ZERO chance at election, or supporting candidates that will simply ignore their DERP. Either way, the party will reform, but it's going to be a slow process.

The irony is that they may just have redistricted themselves into a corner, which can't be fixed for another 8 years.

Soup4Bonnie:somedude210: since Marco Rubio is a nice cross-section of latino voters in America

What are you going to do? They just aren't cottoning to Ted Cruz.

cottoning?

It'd be nice if they actually tried to find a legitimate latino voice from the south west who wasn't cuban and has more standing then "tea derper who won the senate seat" that you have with both Cruz and Rubio

Update: Priebus declined to enage the point directly during an appearance on MSNBC later in the day, but noted - as he did earlier in the week - that the RNC was in financial disarray when Steele stepped down as chairman in 2011.

Oh, so you straitened things up? How has the party done under your stewardship Reince?

somedude210:hubiestubert: At this point, the party leadership has decided to back the Idiot Brigade. And they will reap as they sow...

I'm not so sure. They've been trying to push back against them in recent weeks. I think the derp brigade is knowing this and fighting tooth and nail and cranking the rhetoric and threats to primary anyone, regardless of how conservative they claim, if they do anything anti-derper.

the civil war is still going on, and the establishment is trying to have their emancipation proclamation with this immigration reform bill to completely screw over the tea party

CPAC decided to feature Sarah Palin and didn't even extend an invite to Christie, who is easily the most popular republican in America right now. If this is a civil war, I would say Richmond has been overrun, and Atlanta is burning.

somedude210:It'd be nice if they actually tried to find a legitimate latino voice from the south west who wasn't cuban and has more standing then "tea derper who won the senate seat" that you have with both Cruz and Rubio

It can be hard to find someone that has the broad appeal of an Alberto Gonzales.

Five studies on the Color-Blind Racial Attitudes Scale (CoBRAS) with over 1,100 observations provide initial reliability and validity data. Specifically, results from an exploratory factor analysis suggest a 3-factor solution:Unawareness of Racial Privilege, Institutional Discrimination, and Blatant Racial Issues. A confirmatory factor analysis suggests that the 3-factor model is a good fit of the data and is the best of the competing models. The CoBRAS was positively related to other indexes of racial attitudes as well as 2 measures of belief in a just world, indicating that greater endorsement of color-blind racial attitudes was related to greater levels of racial prejudice and a belief that society is just and fair. Self-reported CoBRAS attitudes were sensitive to diversity training. -- (doi:10.1037/0022-0167.47.1.59)

Among 342 white college students, we examined the effects of social dominance orientation (SDO), right-wing authoritarianism (RWA), and racial color-blindness on modern racism attitudes. Structural equation modeling was used to test the indirect effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism attitudes through color-blind racial attitudes. We found strong indirect effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism through racial color-blindness. We did not find support for an alternative model, in which we tested racial color-blindness as a moderator of the effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism. Findings suggest that highly dominant and authoritarian white students endorse color-blind racial attitudes, although likely for different reasons. In turn, this predicts their modern racism attitudes. These findings indicate racial color-blindness is important to address as part of anti-racism education. -- (doi:10.1080/00224545.2012.700966)

Pretending to be color-blind about opportunities neither justifies nor excuses color-blind indifference to outcomes; believing ethnic minorities will be blindly indifferent to the bigotry involved seems to fall somewhere between delusion and folly.

gilgigamesh:CPAC decided to feature Sarah Palin and didn't even extend an invite to Christie, who is easily the most popular republican in America right now. If this is a civil war, I would say Richmond has been overrun, and Atlanta is burning.

wait, I think we screwed up the metaphors. The tea derpers are playing the confederates, so if they're being focused on at CPAC, then I think they just fired on fort Sumner?

the rational, moderates of the party (Christie, Huntsman, et. al) are the northerners

somedude210:gilgigamesh: CPAC decided to feature Sarah Palin and didn't even extend an invite to Christie, who is easily the most popular republican in America right now. If this is a civil war, I would say Richmond has been overrun, and Atlanta is burning.

wait, I think we screwed up the metaphors. The tea derpers are playing the confederates, so if they're being focused on at CPAC, then I think they just fired on fort Sumner?

the rational, moderates of the party (Christie, Huntsman, et. al) are the northerners

abb3w:Five studies on the Color-Blind Racial Attitudes Scale (CoBRAS) with over 1,100 observations provide initial reliability and validity data. Specifically, results from an exploratory factor analysis suggest a 3-factor solution:Unawareness of Racial Privilege, Institutional Discrimination, and Blatant Racial Issues. A confirmatory factor analysis suggests that the 3-factor model is a good fit of the data and is the best of the competing models. The CoBRAS was positively related to other indexes of racial attitudes as well as 2 measures of belief in a just world, indicating that greater endorsement of color-blind racial attitudes was related to greater levels of racial prejudice and a belief that society is just and fair. Self-reported CoBRAS attitudes were sensitive to diversity training. -- (doi:10.1037/0022-0167.47.1.59)

Among 342 white college students, we examined the effects of social dominance orientation (SDO), right-wing authoritarianism (RWA), and racial color-blindness on modern racism attitudes. Structural equation modeling was used to test the indirect effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism attitudes through color-blind racial attitudes. We found strong indirect effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism through racial color-blindness. We did not find support for an alternative model, in which we tested racial color-blindness as a moderator of the effects of SDO and RWA on modern racism. Findings suggest that highly dominant and authoritarian white students endorse color-blind racial attitudes, although likely for different reasons. In turn, this predicts their modern racism attitudes. These findings indicate racial color-blindness is important to address as part of anti-racism education. -- (doi:10.1080/00224545.2012.700966)

Pretending to be color-blind about opportunities neither justifies nor excuses color-blind indifference to outcomes; believing ethnic minorities will be blindly indifferent to the bigotry involved seems to fall somewhere between delus ...

Mr. Steele:How about the constant targeting of African-Americans to keep them from voting? Things like cutting back voting hours in heavily black areas and expanding them in white areas? Or purging black voters (and only black voters) from the rolls just days or weeks before an election?

Not that I don't love you, but could you post links to these things as well as/instead of DOI? Easier than a DOI look-up (in spite of being incredibly easy), and even though most articles are behind some sort of paywall, even a link that only gives the abstract might get more people to read a little of this stuff.

cettin:SEM still needs some work before it becomes a verified approach...

/Stats bigot

Interesting. I'm looking to employ SEM to analyze results of a study I'm currently running. Could you elaborate a little on what you mean by your comment, as serious critique might make me hesitant to use a technique that isn't properly validated.

hubiestubert:tallguywithglasseson: Wow. Impressed he said that out loud. He is still a Republican, right?

There are cracks in the ranks. Between immigration reform and marriage equality, it may split off sections who are going to be faced with either disenfranchising themselves essentially by supporting candidates who have ZERO chance at election, or supporting candidates that will simply ignore their DERP. Either way, the party will reform, but it's going to be a slow process.

There's always the uniting force of tax cuts. It's how they solidified the party under Reagan, it's how they were able to undercut Clinton, it was the hallmark of the Bush (43) years, and it will be what reunites them.

They may lose on the social issues, but who are they gonna vote for? A Democrat?

unyon:hubiestubert: tallguywithglasseson: Wow. Impressed he said that out loud. He is still a Republican, right?

There are cracks in the ranks. Between immigration reform and marriage equality, it may split off sections who are going to be faced with either disenfranchising themselves essentially by supporting candidates who have ZERO chance at election, or supporting candidates that will simply ignore their DERP. Either way, the party will reform, but it's going to be a slow process.

The irony is that they may just have redistricted themselves into a corner, which can't be fixed for another 8 years.

Waitaminute, are you saying some swords cut BOTH ways?!?! And that trying to win a short-term battle at the cost of the long-term war might NOT be the best way to secure a party's future??!?!!

gilgigamesh:CPAC decided to feature Sarah Palin and didn't even extend an invite to Christie, who is easily the most popular republican in America right now. If this is a civil war, I would say Richmond has been overrun, and Atlanta is burning.

FTA: Today, the membership page for the caucus is defunct. The caucus hasn't met since July 2012; it has posted no news since July 2012. In the press, "Tea Party caucus" has become an offhand way to refer to conservatives. In her speech to CPAC, which included a typically Bachmann-ian error about how much TANF money is wasted on administration, Bachmann didn't mention "the Tea Party." But the new relaunch date for the Tea Party Caucus is April 15, and according to Bachmann's spokesman, "the main purpose of the Tea Party Caucus is to listen to Tea Party leaders and activists, not be a mouthpiece for the Tea Party."

Muta:gilgigamesh: CPAC decided to feature Sarah Palin and didn't even extend an invite to Christie, who is easily the most popular republican in America right now. If this is a civil war, I would say Richmond has been overrun, and Atlanta is burning.

This article argues that the Teaparty is dead.

FTA: Today, the membership page for the caucus is defunct. The caucus hasn't met since July 2012; it has posted no news since July 2012. In the press, "Tea Party caucus" has become an offhand way to refer to conservatives. In her speech to CPAC, which included a typically Bachmann-ian error about how much TANF money is wasted on administration, Bachmann didn't mention "the Tea Party." But the new relaunch date for the Tea Party Caucus is April 15, and according to Bachmann's spokesman, "the main purpose of the Tea Party Caucus is to listen to Tea Party leaders and activists, not be a mouthpiece for the Tea Party."

At the RNC's rollout of its 2012 post-mortem earlier this week, Priebus took a thinly veiled shot at Steele for leaving the RNC in financial shambles. Steele fired back by contrasting his track record with Priebus. "I won, and he didn't," Steele said.

LOL, he does have a point.

No matter how good a steward of cash Peibus might be, his cost/benefit ratio is shiat compared to Steele. In a game where the only thing that matters is winning, nobody is going to give a damn if you found more cost efficient vendors.

Lionel Mandrake:Update: Priebus declined to enage the point directly during an appearance on MSNBC later in the day, but noted - as he did earlier in the week - that the RNC was in financial disarray when Steele stepped down as chairman in 2011.

Oh, so you straitened things up? How has the party done under your stewardship Reince?

"Financial disarray" = Code word for "You didn't drink the Flavor-Aid! Now you'll be sent off to Siberia for reeducation!"