No one hates metal elitism more than I do. I hate every band that is a trademark of tough guy metal elitism. I love bands less metal than Muse (which is saying a lot), but this band is NOT metal at all, and we've moved set lists out of the main forum if they weren't actually metal before. This shouldn't be an exception.

No one hates metal elitism more than I do. I hate every band that is a trademark of tough guy metal elitism. I love bands less metal than Muse (which is saying a lot), but this band is NOT metal at all, and we've moved set lists out of the main forum if they weren't actually metal before. This shouldn't be an exception.

I like Muse, too. While certainly not metal, they're WAY heavier than Coldplay, The Killers, or any other "pop" band. It's true.

Not unless the dozen + songs I've suffered through were incredibly, incredibly misleading. Maybe a bit, but not WAY heavier. I actually probably like them less. I have heard few bands that annoy the piss out of me like they do - but for as much as they do, it still doesn't approach the degree to which a lot of their fans piss me off by trying to tote them around like a "Prog" band, which kinda makes me want to vomit a little. Bunch of music elitists dressing up the simplistic if you ask me.

The only song I've heard the remotely suggests otherwise. And it was the first I heard, which is why I didn't hate them from the beginning. But then the more I heard, the more a huge WTF came to mind.

Look - I'm not saying Muse are horrible and no one should like them - everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just think the band is VERY mispresented, probably much more by their own fanbase than themselves. I'm just kinda getting tired of hearing about them.

Oh yes, and Threshold did a pretty awesome cover of Supermassive Black Hole, that actually sounds remotely like Prog Metal - fun, but still kinda gay.