Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

The Dismemberment Plan closing the Gobi does makes sense programming-wise, but those poor guys are going to have like 100 people in that tent. Darkside could still hold their own against Skrillex, PTS, Fatboy, etc. And technically, they're just as much/if not more of a "guitar-band" that Sleigh Bells.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

I took another shot at the set times, starting with the original Clashfinder and mixing a few things up a bit. I'm not sure on the protocol/etiquette for adding another public Clashfinder for 2014, so it's set as private right now - I'm just copying the image below. If you want access PM me, or if it's in good form and people are interested I can set it to public.

Friday
- Replacements switch with AFI and are now closing the Outdoor. This moves Girl Talk up one spot on the main. Like him or hate him I think Girl Talk on the main stage as a dance party warmup to The Knife and OutKast makes the most sense.
- Jagwar Ma moved way later on the Outdoor. They're not playing before 3pm.
- Ellie Goulding closing the Gobi. She's one of the few acts on the bill whose fan base (skewing much younger) might have limited interest in OutKast.
- A$AP Ferg and Aloe Blacc moved to back-to-back spots on the Outdoor.

Saturday
- Nas and Pharell moved to main stage. With all the guests he'll actually have, and the inevitable Daft Punk rumors, I think Pharell ought to be on the main. Nas makes sense before him around sunset.
- Queens of the Stone Age closing the Outdoor. This makes sense as a complement to all the electronic music that's playing otherwise (Skrillex, Pet Shop Boys, Fat Boy Slim).
- Lorde now second on the Outdoor, against Muse. They probably have some crossover but I actually think this is a pretty painless conflict.
- Pet Shop Boys closing the Mojave in spite of their Facebook post, FBS closing the Sahara. This just makes more sense to me.
- RL Grime moved back in the Sahara. He's a bigger name than GTA and Galantis, especially for the SoCal-heavy Coachella crowd.

Sunday
- Calvin Harris gets a longer set and moves back a spot to avoid a conflict with Arcade fire. Alesso closes down the Sahara with Duck Sauce leading into Calvin Harris.
- Chance the Rapper moves to a later spot on the Outdoor (versus an earlier on the main). He has a significant and devoted fan base but this just feels like a show that will play better on a more reasonably-sized stage.

Olof, I understand that as Oni Ayhun, you only perform at events where there is gender parity on the lineup. Will you extend that to the Knife's bookings?
Olof: "With my solo project, I've been using the approach that I only perform at nights or festivals that have no more than 50% people who identify as men. Now that we go on tour with the Knife, we are on a completely different level. We have gone about it a bit differently. We've asked for statistics and figures on this and last year's representation of men and women onstage, and together we can kind of get a picture of how things are. What we will do with that, we haven't really decided. We do take it into consideration, but we haven't been that strict — I mean, if we were to use that policy as I did before, we wouldn't play at one single festival. That's what happened with my solo project, I could only do single nights where there were three or four artists, and I could be part of selecting the other ones. At festivals, the average is around like 80/20, sometimes worse, sometimes a bit better."

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by Boourns

which is why I endured that 2 Chainz bedlam, of course.

Tell me you were the guy on the rail (obviously waiting for Natasha) who shielded his face in abject misery and disgust when the crowd camera zoomed by the front row. Checked it out with a friend before leaving to see the end of Ben Howard, and that was my favorite moment of the whole shitshow.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by travelfan

Tell me you were the guy on the rail (obviously waiting for Natasha) who shielded his face in abject misery and disgust when the crowd camera zoomed by the front row. Checked it out with a friend before leaving to see the end of Ben Howard, and that was my favorite moment of the whole shitshow.

I wasn't quite at the rail. I had been waiting since the band before Savages, but here that isn't nearly early enough.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by acasey0

why would flostradomus be in the mojave

•Counterprogramming to Calvin Harris. Need to have some hip hop/trap to close it out.
•Flosstradamus has a history of a darker stage show in terms of lighting so they wouldn't necessarily need the sahara set-up.
•modeselektor, dj shadow,gaslamp killer, Flying Lotus have all played sets outside of the sahara.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by Ferris Wheeler

•Counterprogramming to Calvin Harris. Need to have some hip hop/trap to close it out.
•Flosstradamus has a history of a darker stage show in terms of lighting so they wouldn't necessarily need the sahara set-up.
•modeselektor, dj shadow,gaslamp killer, Flying Lotus have all played sets outside of the sahara.

You do realize that not all electronic music needs to get played in the Sahara, right? And that Flosstradamus has far less in common with acts like Modeselektor, DJ Shadow and FlyLo than with the general shit that goes in the Sahara?

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by Larry Farnsworth

You do realize that not all electronic music needs to get played in the Sahara, right? And that Flosstradamus has far less in common with acts like Modeselektor, DJ Shadow and FlyLo than with the general shit that goes in the Sahara?

Trap vs House
Flosstradamus vs Calvin
Those are not largely overlapping crowds.

I'm just saying that there's a history of electronic sets with a hip hop influence outside of the sahara. Modeselektor obviously is not the best example but DJ shadow and FlyLo are.

And I would normally put flosstradamus in the sahara but calvin, alesso and duck sauce can't exist outside of the sahara aside from calvin on outdoor theater but I don't think that's going to happen because he's a perfect sahara closer and definitely fits in the sahara if he's up against flosstradamus.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

To play devil's advocate, TNGHT and Infected Mushroom were out of the Sahara last year. Sub Focus closed the Mojave in 2012 too, against Radiohead. So it's not always just the critically acclaimed EDM acts that play outside of the Sahara. I'm not saying throw Flosstradamus outside the Sahara based purely on the possibility of it happening, but it's not completely out of the ordinary for some of the heavier, hip-hop leaning, or more aggressive stuff to be out of the Sahara, even with a large setup.

If there is enough room in the Sahara for him, that's still probably the best place though.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Flosstradamus will be in the sahara. They are the epitome of sahara bro music. Plus no other stage has speakers necessary to handle them. TNGHT in the Gobi was a shit show because there wasn't enough bass to handle their sound. Flosstradamus anywhere but Sahara would be worthless.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

Originally Posted by Ferris Wheeler

Trap vs House
Flosstradamus vs Calvin
Those are not largely overlapping crowds.

lol@u. I believe those are both within the spectrum of "Im rolling face and don't care about music whatsoever". Trap and cheese-house are very closely related. Hyped up for no apparent reason, except for the above, and shit in every technicality.

Re: 2014 Set Times Prediction Thread??

I sense the dance acts could be placed a lot differently, and seeing as I comfortable calling that my area of expertise as it's sort of what pays the bills, I'll offer my two cents here (times provided for Yuma, not for Sahara but Sahara in order I imagine):