“That’s a pretty significant jump in the unemployment rate when we’ve been into the recovery this long,” said Harry Davis, the chief economist for the North Carolina Bankers Association and an Appalachian State University banking professor.”

“Since the U.S. fell into recession in Dec. 2007, North Carolina has lost 248,000 nonfarm jobs. Manufacturers have slashed 95,500 workers since that time, while construction companies cut 65,800.

Those two sectors shed 2,100 positions in December, but the month’s biggest loser was the 2,600 jobs cut by leisure and hospitality services like hotels and entertainment companies.

That’s no surprise with consumers worried about their incomes cutting back on luxuries, Davis said. More losses at leisure companies can be expected this year, he said.”

Alex Jones (infowars.com) has an amazing
interview today with an actor from the
Lone Gunmen. He says the FBI and NASA actually
approached the producer with plots and
scripts for the show.

If you recall, Lone Gunmen had an episode of
terrorists crashing planes into the twin towers
BEFORE 9/11!!
Please share this info with everyone, our system
is totally corrupted and poisened from within.

Also check out Kevin Trudeau, a Bilderburger
with his own radio show, who is actually a good
guy trying to block the NWO. He has an
excellent radio show as well.

For Ky………….
Civilian labor force statistics include non-military workers and unemployed Kentuckians who are actively seeking work.
They do not include unemployed Kentuckians who have not looked for employment within the past four weeks.

(Now why would unemployed Kentuckians not look for employment for 4 weeks???
Because it’s expensive and may mean the difference in feeding your family or buying gas??)

Benaiah – you asked downstairs if a “shoebox” was mentioned in 0blahblah’s autobiography. Yes. I never read the book but have seen the passage numerous times over the last couple of years. He mentions that when he was young he found a shoebox that had all of his records in it including his birth certificate and vaccination records.

Yes, everyone else, I find no value in sharing such a “fictional” tale unless there wasn’t something to it. What that might be? Who knows.

It would be stunning though if some innocent soul happened upon a shoebox filled w/0’s personal records and followed the steps Mr Russell outlined in his tale.

How sad though that all of his records were kept in a shoebox to begin with. Honestly, what kind of parents did this man have?

He found the shoebox as a child. A child wouldn’t put it somewhere for safe keeping for ever and ever; he would look at what’s in there, and return everything to the box.

Who has that box???

Unfortunately, we already know what kind of parents he had. You wonder why he’s a narcissist? He was rejected and shuttled around all his life and now in adulthood, is doing everything he possibly can to ‘be somebody.’ He *is* somebody now, but I’m afraid that history will look upon him harshly; not the kind of notoriety he was craving, I’m sure.

I heard an interesting comment on the radio about the “greed jobs” that are being touted as having been created – freudian slip…should be “green jobs.” While that may be true, we must all remember the number of regular jobs that were lost to create that one green job.

Just something to keep in mind when hearing these bogus stats and proclamations are being thrown around.

I”m sure Barky has read the Koran, and he may have read just a little bit of the Bible, however, what he’s read shows that he surely doesn’t understand it and looked stuff up to see the meaning of the terms. He still thinks that Yahweh had slaves, and Yahweh is against slavery, period. Having a hired servant is fine. But not a slave. If he had taken the time to look stuff up, he would have figured it all out. The only reason that I bring this up is, is that once he was remarking upon it in one of his little speeches to some group, how the Bible thinks it’s okay to have slaves. Heck, why does he think that the Israelites, who were slaves in Egypt and under oppression, were led out of Egypt?

Oh, and I wish to add this, whoever works for anyone in any way, shape or form, is a hired servant. It could be a company, it could be a fieldworker, a ranch worker, even someone self-employed. And you’re to treat your hired servant like you would want to be treated, not as a slave and oppress them.

Google obama talking on a you tube video about even the military can’t understand the sermon on the mount and a house divided against itself will not stand. He’s using the usa to divide itself against one another. He knows full full well what he is doing. The muslim faith allows to lie to obtain a objective. He has lied every step of the way and now the dust has settled and people have caught on who were zoombies befroe.look at obama girl. He will make a big mistake soon and that will be his undoing

I heard an interesting comment on the radio about the “greed jobs” that are being touted as having been created – freudian slip…should be “green jobs.” While that may be true, we must all remember the number of regular jobs that were lost to create that one green job.

Just something to keep in mind when hearing these bogus stats and proclamations are being thrown around.
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You speaking of all those coal mines he seeks to close//????

Heck, why does he think that the Israelites, who were slaves in Egypt and under oppression, were led out of Egypt?
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If he begins getting notions to go near huge bodies of water, uh–oh…he might have a God complex and try to part the sea!!! Yikes!!

Sue K and JustMe – there are so many interesting details in Mr. Russell’s story.

1. He has a photo at the top of the post of a “Kinney’s” Shoebox. Now, why would he do that if it’s not “THE” shoebox?

2. Then he mentions “Destiny Lane” I’ve tried to learn if there is a Destiny Lane in LA and can’t find a good listing of streets. I’m still hunting.

3. Then he mentions items found in the shoebox. Obama never said pictures, right? Just the birth certificate and his vaccination records. Nothing about childhood photos. Does anyone have a copy of Dreams and look up this passage? If so, could you print the passage verbatim? thanks.

4. He mentions SSS – “sources inside the Selective Service System have provided FOX with a letter dated June 2 1980, stating that he, Barack Hussein Obama, was not a citizen and therefore not required to register with them. This was in reply to an earlier letter sent to him by the SSS.”

– Lastly, he says the individual’s name who “found it” would be known worldwide and the next breath that he’s in a safe undisclosed location in the Carribbean with the box and all her items.

And why would an individual who is a conservative tell such an odd “teasing” story? Not sure what his motivation would be unless he’s trying to tell us something but can’t yet.

Very odd yet the story makes total sense. Why not find a shoebox hidden in an attic and sell it along with all of the other crap past renters left behind. Makes perfect sense to me. I’d do the same thing – could care less what they left behind.

And there is something about the innocence of it all. A yard sale! I can absolutely believe that a young stoned man who was reckless and irresponsible could leave such valuables behind. It’s not unfathomable.

In two years, I’ve never come upon such a tale. Thus, I go back to the photo of the shoebox on a foundation with a white tablecloth covering the tabletop. Why show the shoebox unless this was the shoebox holding his records? This guy is sending a message.

I don’t want to say it b/c I’ve seen so many things and falsely believed so many times over the last two years that evidence proving his lack of citizenship has finally been unearthed, but I don’t think this is a hoax. My gut tells me that this may very well be the real thing.

But I refuse to get my hopes up. Instead, I find the tale curious that has enough facts in it that it may well be true.

Texas gubernatorial debates tonight. Medina of ZERO property taxes & send rangers to border is up against very DC-establishment do nothings, Perry & hutchison. She’s showing signs of life in the polls…it’ll be real cool if nurse/country-girl no-nonsense type wins….FEAR OF GOD in RHICONS!

JJ – I get what you are saying and more than agree with your observation.

BUT that doesn’t render one not to offer empathy for someone who had inept, selfish and distant parents. And yes, a lot of kids who have experienced trauma spend their lives either in jail or self medicating or in mental health centers. Their entire “self” was so destroyed by their upbringing that they can’t reclaim or rebuild it.

Sue K works with such people everyday.

You insult all of us who recognize the fact that a broken and screwed up family breeds broken souls. This doesn’t mean they don’t get a pass. It only means those of us who choose to learn their familiar history empathize with the child.

Thankfully my mother and father provided us six kids the basics, but they weren’t there for me. They were too busy making a living to keep the roof over our heads, feeding us, keeping our home clean and trying to have a relationship at the same time.

Depending on the development stage at which a child is abandoned, abused or rejected from the only ones they know and trust can lead to severe emotional and mental challenges. Why do you think kids have make belive friends? Why do you think some have split personalities? Why do you think they self medicate?

Empathy is something more could embrace. It doesn’t mean when offering compassion that we excuse or dismiss it. All it means is we who offer it or show it have a deeper understanding of the fragility of children’s psyches.

Wow Benaiah! I am most impressed. You’ve got great research skills. How the heck did you find this? Since you know your way around, help me find a Destiny Lane in the Occidental area. I’d love to know if such a lane exists? If so, then how close to the College? walkable? short bus ride?

“In the 1930s, Kinney’s was one of the first shoe companies to use sports figures to sponsor footwear. C.O. Anderson had played professional basketball after he graduated with an engineering degree in the early 1920s with the New York Knights. He had played against the New York Celtics and his competition’s center was Joe Lapchick.”

“Anderson had asked Lapchick to devise a list for specifications for basketball sneakers and to endorse the finished product. The result was a phenomenal increase in sales. Several hundred thousand “Joes” sneakers were sold each year in Kinney Shoes stores as late as 1965.”

d2i // January 29, 2010 at 7:27 pm
4. He mentions SSS – “sources inside the Selective Service System have provided FOX with a letter dated June 2 1980, stating that he, Barack Hussein Obama, was not a citizen and therefore not required to register with them. This was in reply to an earlier letter sent to him by the SSS.”
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I wish this was for real and maybe it is but there are errors with the Selective service scenario. I’m into genealogy and I’ve seen many WWI and WWII draft cards and not only were 18 year old American male citizens required to register but alien males had to register too.

On MARCH 29, 1975, President Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Following, on JULY 2, 1980, President Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960.

Here are the current requirements. Note that aliens must register also.

WHO MUST REGISTER NOW?-
Does every young man have to register when he turns 18? Just about!

http://www.sss.gov/must.htm
Almost all male U.S. citizens regardless of where they live, and male immigrant aliens residing in the U.S., are required to be registered with Selective Service if they are at least 18 years old but are not yet 26 years old. Men who are 26 years old and older are too old to register.

venice – yes, something around this period of his life triggered his need to learn more about the man listed as “father” on his birth certificate. This period of his life is when he started his familial journey.

Jonah – appreciate your link and info BUT what if 0blahblah is not a citizen but believed he was applied for SSS as a complete foreigner? What if he isn’t an American citizen but was lead to believe he was b/c that’s what his mother told him.

Effectively, you have a young man that believes he is a US citizen, learns via the material in the shoebox he wasn’t applicable, but pretends that information doesn’t exist. Leave his past and records behind believing he’s setting on a whole new journey (excuse my language, but I could imagine a young man who believed he was an American learns he isn’t and says, at least to himself, F that, I am an American period even though legally he is not b/c his mom screwed up).

What this passage is saying is this “I’m an American and am fulfilling my legal duty to apply for SSS, and SSS’s response was, sir, you are not an American, thus, no need to apply.

It says he’s not even a citizen of the US; meaning any law that governs citizenship does not apply to him b/c he’s not a citizen. Can’t be if he was born in Kenya – moved to Hawaii – then to Indonesia. Remember, Indonesia did not have a reciprocol citizenship agreement w/the US at the time 0 lived there w/his mom and Lolo.

Indonesia at that time was under marshall law or the equivalent of marshall law at that. Thus, any citizen from any country seeking to live in Indoneseia in the early sixties or seventies had to renounce citizenship of their natural born country to live in the state and to receive any state benefit such as an education.

Re: Obot Brownshirts. Confused about D@Verg being on the list. I agree with the Supreme Court ruling like D@Verg and I’m no obot. How do we know who is and who isn’t? And are we sure this person was an Obot? How was this conclusion reached?

If that is when he began his search for his “father”, then clearly the info had been withheld from him for many years. That’s speaks volumes about his relationship with his mother. In what direction? Only he could say.

I don’t guess anyone heard me. Regardless, did you tell on your blog what your surprise is to Glenn Beck about BO? If you did, then I missed it as I was busy working. If I missed it, can anyone, CW, or anyone else please direct me to the subject?

Please understand that I am not trying to excuse his behavior rather, figure out why he behaves the way he does.

I’m merely interested in learning what the trigger was to kick in that blatant narcissism and delusions of grandeur that he seems to have on a regular basis.

You’re right-far worse things have happened to people who have come from less than exemplary backgrounds but something causes some to pull themselves up by the bootstraps (just look at Lloyd Marcus), while others fall by the wayside. I truly don’t know what causes each behavior.

I think it’s safe to say that his mother was ‘loose’ and his father was absent. We see every day some of the effects of an absent parent, especially the fathers. We also see kids who never got any attention go entirely the opposite way; they make themselves known, whether it’s in a positive or negative way.

I’m not in the psychiatric field, but have the chance to observe every day so to me, why Barky is the way he is intrigues me. Again, not excusing it at all rather, trying to understand it.

All I can say in observing Barky for well over a year is that it must be a living hell being him; I wouldn’t wanna live that way.

Those two candidates Perry and Hutchison are a team of economic tricksters, who’ll sell the state of Tx. to the highest bidder, and are hell bent on globalizing the state, and ripping up the Constitution.

Wasn’t daverg on the blog just the other day saying that he had been busy with his life and just popped in to say hello? I think he also said he had business matters to attend to and would be back on the blog after a period of time.

Please stop sending the cold air down…it’s a blistering 12 degrees right now and we’ve had enough! I went out a while ago and my eyelashes froze :).

Regarding the box with the alleged B.C. contained therein. Just a theory, but perhaps when he saw that B.C., his race was listed as ‘White’ or ‘Caucasian.’ That may be when he disavowed that part of him.

I find it odd that that he’s 50% Caucasian, 8% Black, and 42% Arab; we’ve never heard about the Arab part and rarely hear about the Caucasian part, only the Black part and he identifies himself as Black.

Regarding the box with the alleged B.C. contained therein. Just a theory, but perhaps when he saw that B.C., his race was listed as ‘White’ or ‘Caucasian.’ That may be when he disavowed that part of him.

I find it odd that that he’s 50% Caucasian, 8% Black, and 42% Arab; we’ve never heard about the Arab part and rarely hear about the Caucasian part, only the Black part and he identifies himself as Black.

I think we’d all like to see what was in that shoebox….
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The guys at Hillbuzz think his race is listed as Arab, and his religion as Muslim or Islam. According to his lawyer, it’s something ‘embarrassing’.

d2i – your intuition is a powerful thing, and I think you might be on to something. It’s the fact that is appears on ObamaFile that has me intrigued. That’s a pretty reliable site for factual information.

If the original story came out on 1/25, we’re on Day 5, and the events are exactly as laid out.

Until the biological father is identified (and that’s a big if), those racial divisions are artificial. It is based on the assumption that Obama Sr. was his biological father, which I very much doubt. Many countries in Africa divide along several several racial lines, Arab being one of the most prevalent, hence Obama Sr. I find it astounding that this man’s identity is still in question.

Venice, the whole story is in question, and it depends on what you read.

I’m not sure about Stanley Ann, either. I’m not sure about his birthday. I am sure that every story and press release that’s come out thus far is a lie. Something has to give because stories will start to contradict each other very soon. The fabrications can’t keep up for an indefinite period of time.

There is always the possibility that the truth may be something we’ve never even considered…

SueK @ 9:10 pm
For some odd reason Chicago has a strange history with shoe boxes.http://www.tommcmahon.net/2005/12/paul_powell_the.html
Paul Powell: The Illinois Democrat Who Died With $800,000 In His Shoebox
The famous Paul Powell shoebox was actually more than one box, and not all were shoeboxes. There were also metal boxes, briefcases, and envelopes. This treasure trove—roughly $800,000 in cash—was discovered two days after he died, when Powell’s staff and his estate executor gathered his belongings from the hotel room and storage area. The other, less famous findings included 49 cases of whiskey, 14 transistor radios, and two cases of creamed corn. This guy was prepared; for what, I don’t know.

Ticktock: Kittycat, Haven’t seen or heard anything about the “surpise for GB”. Am looking forward to whatever it is!

Yeah, I saw CW talking about it, but I haven’t noticed that he’s said anything about it, plus I’ve been tied up on editing for my work. Then when I’d come back here to read, maybe I just missed it. So if I did, I’ll go back and look to see what it was.

I’ve heard about BO’s Arab part for a long time, which is something that Andy Martin studied about. Apparently, he’s not really that much black. It’s more Arab, if Andy is right. But regardless, if his mama was 1/2 white, he’s still got that 1/2 white. Simply amazing, isn’t it?

Like who the heck even cares what color he is “but him”? He’s only using that mess anyway to push what he wants to do. He’s the real one against colors of people, not us.

Think about it this way – if 0blahblah was told for years he was an American and he related everything he knew to America, then his decision to part from mom and abusive dad and live with grandma and grandpa…coming stateside, he felt like he was at home where he would be safe. After all it was America.

Yet the time he was living in Indonesia was during a major crisis. Thus, they locked down their borders to outsiders. For him to live there and receive state benefits he had to become an Indonesian. That was the law at that time – if he moved there before turning five w/an Indonesian citizen then he automatically became an Indonesian; if he moved there after the age of five his Indonesian father HAD to adopt him. Either way, his prior citizenship status to any other country was renounced. Period. Like it or not.

He could not attend public school and receive an education unless he was an Indonesian citizen. Thus, his mother being the loon she was, likely didn’t understand the very real consequences of her relocating her son to Indonesia nor what it truly meant to renounce his US citizenship b/c she likely believed in her heart of hearts that her new hub, Lolo, was the one. Therefore, she had this choice – stay stateside w/o her hub OR move to his homeland, renounce the families US citizenship b/c it didn’t matter anymore. They were all going to live happily ever after w/Lolo in Indonesia.

However, Barry was likely abused by dear dad or mom was and he couldn’t live in that environment. So, he thought he was coming home to his homeland when he left Indonesia to live with his grandparents; who by the way were as screwed up as his mother.

No one bothered to tell him that his mother gave up his and her American citizenship when she relocated to Indonesia. Yet, in fact he may have never had it or at a minimum was a dual. But no one told him the truth.

So one day, while he’s at Occidental he opens a “Kinney’s” shoebox grandma gave him and learned his true identity. Who is father was and where his real roots layed. This was the trigger.
Without question. To believe you are one person and then learn you’re another is about as traumatic as it gets.

Curious. Where in the book Dreams does he discover the material in the shoebox? Half way through? If so, a true biographer would have used this “shoebox” info as a pivot point half way through the autobiography.

The Dunham’s may have used his Indonesian citizenship as a means to get him into Occidental more as a ruse to defraud to get him reduced tuition as a foreign student than an American who’d have to pay the full freight. The decision to defraud was probably more about available resources than trying to hoodwink…just a hunch.

The word that comes to mind about the shoebox story is “ordinary”. How ordinary is it for a LL to empty out a house full of junk to sell in a yard sale? How ordinary is it that the LL could care less what the crappola was b/c he’d lived w/it for twenty+ years. How ordinary is it that one is drawn to a curious item at a yard sale?

Actually, Obama’s whole life seems to be nothing but a work of fiction.

If you’d like to see something from a different point of view, watch the two short videos below which, even though they start slowly, contain a wealth of factual data – more than we’ve seen from Obama.

In fact in the second video a famous senator is quoted speaking about someone that sounds for all the world like “Our Boy” and really strikes a chord.

Only thing is the senator was the Roman baned Cicero speaking in 42 BC – but the message is still very directed and pertinent for all of us:

I don’t think having a particular religion listed would be a cause for embarrassment. What would be embarrassing would be having a parent who is/or was a criminal or outlaw or notorious in some way, or being conceived as a product of rape or incest, or not having a father listed because he was unknown because the mother had multiple partners, or not having the parents were listed because the child was taken from someone else. That’s something many people wouldn’t talk about. I would look in that direction.

I know someone who discovered her birth certificate was different than the day she was told she was born (it was hidden away). This was all to cover up a pregnancy that began out-of-wedlock. She was furious because she had not been told the truth (early 60’s btw)…but, she was not embarrassed by it. Her mother was clearly embarrassed and that’s why it was hidden. But, the daughter is not embarrassed today.

Getting back to O, his birth situation must still be embarrassing for him. And, that’s the important thing about it because, whatever it is, it warrants (in his mind) spending millions not allowing the birth certificate to be seen.

OK. So, what could STILL be embarrassing to him today about his birth that was embarrassing to him back then when he discovered it? Country where born? Yes, because it’s a legal issue. Parent(s) yes, if they fit the circumstances in paragraph one. Or, it could even be a combination of the country issue and the parentage issue. I’m guessing it’s a combination of both. Could he even have married someone he is closely related to?

Yup, Caucasian and Arab, it is. That’s been written about quite a bit.

I think I know his angle: Claim Black and he can use the race to his advantage any time, and so can his cult followers. Notice that every time you read a criticism of him, out pop his minions calling everyone ‘racist.’ I don’t think that’d happen with either the Caucasian half, or the Arab part.

It’s *very* convenient for him to claim ‘Black.’

Also, please see CW’s response to you about the Beck information at 9:02PM.

Sorry if this sounds hard hearted, but in this day and age, I simply don’t see the “embarrassment theory”…it has to be something much bigger. There’s most likely some embarrassing things in there, but I don’t believe THOSE are the reasons for hiding it all.

I know someone a generation older than me…so the age of O’s parent’s. Had a messy childhood. Abandoned by father, eventually adopted by his grandparents. He spent his life hiding it all. As an adult, he became a power monger and had much resentment towards women. I had always thought, “gee, he must’ve been sooo abused to behave this way.”

It wasn’t until much later that I found out that in reality, he was actually quite pampered and spoiled in his chldhool…and by women…the women who took him in and cared for him.

So apparently some of the trauma made him not thinks straigh and he acted out with control issues and women issues.

Personally, I think the hiding just makes it worse…it can be what drives the insanity. That generation I might give a little leway to. But O’s generation? No excuse for his behavior…NONE. He needs to grow up.

“The Dunham’s may have used his Indonesian citizenship as a means to get him into Occidental more as a ruse to defraud to get him reduced tuition as a foreign student than an American who’d have to pay the full freight. The decision to defraud was probably more about available resources than trying to hoodwink…just a hunch”

After re reading this passage of mine, I think I’ve stated it wrong and that my hunch on this is also wrong.

I think this – he needed and wanted to go abroad to go to college – you know, get away from the crazies – so, he chose California and Occidental. His chances of being accepted as a foreign aid student was as close to a guarantee as great grades. He’s already admitted he was a stoner in High School so his grades were average at best. But as a foreign aid student guaranteed likely acceptance.

ticktock – it may be because you’re thinking rationally about “embarrassment”. These are not rational people, these are evil liars.

Think about it. 5 or 6 years after 9/11, would Americans elect a man of Arab descent who is Muslim? If that is the truth of his birth certificate, and it got out, ‘embarrassing’ would be putting it mildly.

I’m not trying to stir up a new theory. Rather, I found it interesting on Hillbuzz, and it makes as much sense as anything right now.

I still say it is something that was embarrassing back then AND continues to be embarrassing today. Otherwise, why did he discover it in a shoe box. The parent (s) had something to hide, something that couldn’t be told to little Steve.

thanks for the conversation CWer’s. fascinating. ordinary. normal. are all words that come to mind. i hope foundit is enjoying his/her safe hideaway in the Caribbean. Hopefully it’s warmer there than here – and if there is any truth to this story, my glass is raised and cheering your serendipity.

Why are blacks absolved of NOT BEING Republicans yet Republicans are VILIFIED for not having enough blacks in their ranks As If Republicans Should Go Force Blacks to Join Up.

Show me ONE instance of a black that got turned away from being a Republican. There is NONE…but there are MANY instances of Lieberals demonizing blacks fro not being Lieberal enough and sahming them into the plantation especially when they won’t vote for Lieberals.

It is a free country (for now) and people join whatever party they want. Blacks are welcome to join the Republican Party anytime they want. Why Don’t They? Because they are herded into the Lieberal Plantation and the slavemaster shame them into NEVER leaving.

Scott coming worcester tomorrow . Ah the sweet sound. When i shake his hand and say congratulations Senator. Good Luck down in the DC cesspool. No i wont say that. But i would like to play him and his daughter in basketball. My son and i are no slouches on the court

As a Protest for Taxation Without Representation we will withold our taxes for each day that they won’t Senator Brown.
So far it’s been 10 days therefore when your taxes are due you write a letter and an accoutning of Taxes Witheld as a Protest for Taxation Without Representation. Then you Decuct from your Yearly Taxes Due in this amount :

Take Tax Due Divide by 365 then multiply that amount by days Brown doesn’t get seated and Deduct that amount from ToTax Due. Mail in the rest with your note that you are Not Paying Taxes for the Days that You had no Representation.

Sorry about all the typos on prior post BUT I think you are all smart enough to decipher my hurried mistake riddled comment.

Also those that have a Refund do your calculation and add the amount to the tottal Refund.
Example: Take you total Tax Liability (doesn’t include your refund which is an overpayment and deductions etc.) divide my 365 days and then multiply by how many days Senator Brown wasn’t seated (so far 10 days) then ADD this amount to your Refund and add a Note Explaining your accounting and the Reason for this Adjustment is Taxation Without representation for the number of days that Scott Brown our Duly Elected Senator wasn’t Seated by Negligence of the Ruling Party.

SueK @ 10:00 pm
Strange isn’t it my mother’s parents-immigrants from Austria and Germany met on the boat-Ellis Island folks-I never met my mothers parents. They found money after they passed away within months of each other, one expected-one not. I think it was due to the inflation problems in Germany after WW1-Something to do with a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
Gold of some kind I think. Freaked out will do that to you.

Katie @ 10:21 pm
I have thought of this many times myself. America gets attacked on 9/11. Saudi’s, terrorists etc. US goes to war, our soldiers are killed. Everybody at airports shoes off well you know the drill. What is the first thing we do, with our major defense plan. Elect a Muslim and/or someone who’s background we have no idea what the heck it is. Documented that is. The documents are sealed, and in a free society you’re not even allowed to talk about them. Is that a smart plan or what? When you think about it, it is mind boggling STUPID. Usually when people err, they err on the side of caution. Not the geniuses that run our country.

Katie, I agree with what you’re saying. I was thinking that I just don’t see the point in someone covering up personal behaviors in one’s family over “embarrassment” in today’s day and age.

We definitely agree that he’s hiding something! He’s hiding alot no doubt about it. And I think they’re lies that have gone on so long that in his mind there was no “setting it all straight” in his run for Prez. Lies always snowball into something much bigger…just like we all teach our kids. :)

Whatever his reasons and whatever he’s hiding…it’s big. It’s just the “personal behavior” issues with the adults in his family(which really has nothing to do with a child)don’t seem like they’d be the focal point in the cover up to me. Then again, I could see him covering up D’s in school just out of embarrassment(for him personally), but you’re right, these aren’t “normal” people we’re talking about. The rest of us would get it out there and be done with it.

My comments are really to the conversation in general and nothing in particular you said. :) Just throwin’ stuff out there.

Interesting thought for the night. The shoebox discussion made me wonder why o goes by “II” and not Jr. From several google searches the answer is consistant:

Dear Dr. Dave and Dr. Dee,

When do you use Jr. after a name as opposed to the II or III?

Signed,

Curious

Dear Curious,

The designation of Sr. or Jr. to distinguish between father and son with all the exact same names (first, middle, & last), can be replaced by the Roman numerals, I and II, respectively, when the grandson has the exact same names. The grandson will then have a III after his name. The grandfather and father can continue to use Sr. and Jr., respectively, or the numerals.

However, using the II (not Jr.) often means a man does not have his father’s name, but another relative such as his grandfather or uncle.

Royalty or other ceremonial title would always have the I or II, rather than Sr. or Jr. to designate the line.

You guys, I had read that Michelle Obama made a comment that her girls’ doctor said they needed to lose some weight. Don’t know bout’ you, but that just gets my blood boiling. First of all, I think it’s just another lie. I don’t think any doc said that. Secondly, how could any mother say such a thing to anyone much less the entire nation?

Girls are so sensetive about their weight these days and then to take perfectly normal weight girls and make a comment like that is just so wrong…I just can’t express it adamantly enough! Something is wrong with these people! Those poor girls.

Oh yeah, the same article said that earlier(freerepublic)…maybe in the campaign the Zero made reference that one of the girls was getting pudgy. What the heck! What kind of parents would say such things!

The Quran? Ya, he’s read that one.
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Hey SueK, ha, ha, that’s right, he read the Quran.
What a fraud. He has the audacity to claim that he was a Constitutional Law Professor. What an irony – he exposed himself. He could only fool the country for so long. Rev. Manning, here is your proof – his degrees were bought!

Sue, you have a wonderful day with the new addition, Abby Ann, to your home sweet home.

“You seem to have a Whole lot of enemies, at least in your own mind, a partial list would include Fox news, Insurance Companies, Banks
Oil Companies, the Special Interests, the Supreme Court, Republicans, Talk Show hosts, Executives, Anyone or Any Business earning more thn 250 thousand dollars a year, Mortgage companies, Credit Card Companies and the list
goes on and on, you have the longest enemies list of anyone I’ve ever known. These people are not your enemies, they are Americans, they are a part of this country, they are part of what makes this nation work, you are not.

You have nothing to do and have had nothing to do with this Country’s greatness….And like a Bully you continue to threaten all of these people, the Supreme Court, Big Oil, Big Phamacueticals, Big Retail, Fox news, Talks show hosts, the list goes on. You threaten anybody who doesn’t agree with you try to intimidate them, you smear them.

LM // January 30, 2010 at 7:44 am
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According to the results of the FOX poll, it appears that Obama has hoodwinked the FOX viewers.
I do not trust him because he has a history of trickery and deceit. It is apparent to me that Obama is sucking up to the GOP because he realizes that they have the right to protest the unconstitutional process of the health care bill.

Why was the PRESIDENT’S STAFF involved in writing the Senate health care bill but duly elected Republican Senators were locked out of the process?

Every fifth grader knows the U.S. Constitution requires a separation of powers through the three branches of government, the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial. The Legislative Branch has the responsibility of making the laws. Would it be appropriate if a Supreme Court Justice took part in the process of writing a bill or intimidated a Senator to vote for the bill? Of course not! Then the present administration has overstepped their authority. This may have occurred in past administrations but for the sake of righteousness and adherence to the Constitution, it must stop NOW! The entire process of this bill was a violation of the Constitution and it should be thrown out.

Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Did any one notice that Steve/Barry gave us the finger again? This time he scratched his timple a couple of times. I did not watch him at the Republican meeting. We get anough of him shoved at us in tibets all through the day.

“We tried immigration. It’s hard. And we failed. We tried Social Security. It’s hard. And we failed. We tried health care. It’s really hard. And it looks like we’re going to have to start over again,” Graham somberly told a luncheon audience of energy and climate advocates on the Hill. “On the energy, climate change front, I don’t want to add that to the list. There is no reason in my mind that the Republican Party and the Democratic Party can’t come together.”

LM // January 30, 2010 at 8:52 am
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

All of a sudden magically they will hear the suit!
Talk about putting the squeeze on Obama. The assault just keeps marching on and you’re right, under everyone’s nose (well almost everyone)
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Don’t get excited. I believe that story is not true. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Take care, Zach

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Good morning, Zach,
You’re absolutely right about that so-called article……. If you go to the link, and read the “comments” , the “article in question” was originally an April Fool joke……….has made the rounds of the blogs for months now.l….also the date of this “article” was Jan. 22, 2010……. I do believe if “news” of this magnitude were to surface, it would definitely “go viral”……not “quietly” …………………..

Linda from NY @ 9:02 am
New Yorkers sissies? Of all the insults this administration committed this is one of the worst. 9/11-I didn’t see one sissy in the group, running into those buildings like all the people did and we all witnessed it.
The decision to bring the trial to New York, so beyond stupid it boggles the mind. New Yorkers suffered enough, unConstitutional, the expense, they should have left the terrorists where they were. Obama and his ego problems with Bush-insane.

The Soc Sec application rules were different back in the 60′ and ’70s.

Back then you applied in order to get a job so most didn’t apply until age of 16 or 17. Bo was born in 1961 so would have applied in late 70’s or whenever he got his fist job or maybe when he entered college. Anyone know if he had a job as a teenager?

Linda from NY @ 10:29 am
I would not trust Obama for one minute. I think the Republicans should hold their ground-Obama had a whole year to act “normal” he didn’t. I hope the Tea Party stays pure-just this crazy mix of Dems, Reps, Independents, Constitutionalists. The good people and ideas will come out. Look at Scott and all the others.

I just wanted to point out that aliens and others were required to register for Selective Service and and the date of the SSS letter in the shoe box, dated June 2, 1980 has a descrepancy because Selective Service registration was NOT in affect at that time. The letter is a fake. Can’t vouch for the rest of the contents of “the shoebox”.

Folks – this is a must see. It’s long and will take a couple of hours but I guarantee you any residual scales over your eyes, mind and heart will be gone…forever. Please watch it is critical. I’m begging you which I don’t do very often, but it is that critical.

After educating yourself spread the link far and wide – to everyone in your address book. Seriously, this explains so much of what we are confronted with today! So much!!!

Please pass this on to everyone you know….this is very important to watch today at 1:00 p.m. eastern time!!!!

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“The End of the Obama Administration”
Watch the video invitation and preview!

January 25, 2010 (LPAC)–On Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010, Lyndon LaRouche will address the nation and the world in a 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific webcast. LaRouche has just returned from Europe, where he promoted his Four Powers proposal for a United States alliance with Russia, China and India, to establish a new international credit system, and launch a global physical economic recovery.

LaRouche will address the Obama Administration’s efforts to impose murderous austerity upon the United States through a thoroughly unconstitutional national commission to impose cuts on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans benefits. This drive, if successful, would guarantee the destruction of the United States as we know it. Under Depression conditions, any efforts to impose austerity is a bottomless spiral to Hell.

The American people have spoken clearly, most recently in Massachusetts, that they want nothing of President Obama or anyone who would impose murderous policies. The question most clearly on the table, that LaRouche will address on Saturday is this: Will the American people rally behind a real alternative policy, to defeat the power of Wall Street and London, and start the nation and the world back on the track of a long-term economic recovery, based on the most advanced scientific and technological principles, implemented through collaboration among sovereign nation states?

If you want to assure the survival of your children and grandchildren, if you want to be an active participant in history, you will not want to miss LaRouche’s Jan. 30 webcast at 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific. Accessible, LIVE, at

Linda from NY @ 10:51 am
While you were going through your horror in New York, know that the entire country was thinking about you guys, praying-I remember all the firemen on street corners with people filling their boots with money. My neighbors brother was on the pile for months. Government-you treat New York bad, you treat us all bad. With you then, with you now.
Sissies? that is a new low even for them. I hope Giuliani decks them.( A hot headed Italian could do that in Chicago if they did-everybody clapped).

Thanks Michelle. We believed the whole nation was with us then…and we are still healing.

I cannot fathom the idea of trying those murderers in NYC…we have been through enough suffering! And…our cowardly reps wanted to go along with it, too! Probably for the kickbacks they would have received.

I am glad they have decided to move the trial, but I still think these murderers need a Military Tribunal…and need to receive the “ultimate” sentence for their crime…not be rewarded with American rights!

Thanks, Michelle…We will never forget even if the Fraud in the WH doesn’t give a damn!

LM…Looks like once again the FRAUD is fooling everyone….couldn’t believe the poll said yes by 84%……this is just another of his tactics to give you all the illusion that he is working with others…..now when the REpubs step up to say NO to these immoral and unconstitutional policies he will make the case that they are the party of NO……why did he allow press there…..he is not allowing the press in his meeting with George HW Bush today…..WHAT GIVES??? WHERE’S THE TRANSPARENCY????

And yes, a lot of kids who have experienced trauma spend their lives either in jail or self medicating or in mental health centers.
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And more kids who have experienced trauma don’t spend their lives either in jail or self medicating or in mental health centers than those that do.
Is all I’m saying.

Until the biological father is identified (and that’s a big if), those racial divisions are artificial. It is based on the assumption that Obama Sr. was his biological father, which I very much doubt. Many countries in Africa divide along several several racial lines, Arab being one of the most prevalent, hence Obama Sr. I find it astounding that this man’s identity is still in question.
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Are we the only two American citizens finding the story sketchy at best about his father being Obama???

His mother was a ‘promiscuous’ teen; however, I find the entire facts presented about his parentage ludicrous.

If the Grandaddy had CIA connections, maybe the Royal Families paid him muchom$$$$$ to raise him as American for the Final takeover.
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Now, that’s more believable than the story the lame brain media has concocted.

“Are we the only two American citizens finding the story sketchy at best about his father being Obama???”

Newp…how can anyone be sure who is father is and who his mother is…for that matter? We only know what he said in his “book of fiction” so what are we to believe? So…I think we still know too little about pp. Why did he have to “steal” an SS#? Why is he hiding his history?

Kidmon–well Maya should know. Btw, I said here some time ago that someone should track down Maya’s first husband (this is her second marriage). I bet he knows a thing or two about Steve!
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I think when your life has been a lie for most of it, that lie is being told to all involved, especially Maya’s husband to insure the lie remains intact as the truth!!

I’ve come to those conclusions with lots of issues re aka Obama………but lately, I sincerely believe the entire plan from day one didn’t include O, just anyone would have fit the mold…..but, him they chose and only after choosing the ‘black’ senator did the real problems occur regarding the NBC issue; maybe TPTB actually huddled and decided it would be easily ignored/handled if they controlled congress, media, and the courts.
I think this because maybe after the choice was made, his ‘blackness’ was easily aiding their plan in diverting the real objective of the plan, to destroy America’s economy.
Ya see???

Sounds like Mr. LaRouche thinks since 2006 Congress has had a huge hand in destroying our country……he mentions PeLOUSY and Barney Frank a lot…..and don’t forget…..since 2006 the Congress has been controlled by the DemoCRAPS with most of the public asleep…..only now are people protesting these immoral and corrupt bills…..at least the FRAUD has been good for one thing…..AWAKENING THE SLEEPING GIANT!!!!

I know noone is on this thread any longer, but I do believe as I said above, the entire program of the usurper is to destroy America and its economy with or without the congress….that is the objective.

I know noone is on this thread any longer, but I do believe as I said above, the entire program of the usurper is to destroy America and its economy with or without the congress….that is the objective.
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Yes…..that is his objective…..Rush has been saying this from the get go along with a few others….we are on to their game now and people are speaking out boldly…..we mustn’t stop!!!

Re: “Birther”Ridicule. I say bring it on. It won’t stop me from pursuing or talking about finding the truth. It’s apparent that most of us here are quite multi-tasked and are not stuck on only this one issue. We discuss all the issues and are working towards cleaning the mess up whether the NBC issue is proven or not. The last thing we should do is let ridicule silence us.

Personally, I do think the “other records” is where it’s all gonna come out…but it can’t hurt to hit em’ from all sides until something gives.