It probably was but Gibbs is so in love with Brunell that he benched the guy for his man. If he didn't bench Ramsey he would be here now as our starter but instead Gibbs crushed the guys igo and ruined him as a QB.

SAY WHAT U WILL ABOUT GIBBS CRUSHING POOR LITTLE OL' PATRICk RAMSEYS EGO...HE'S A WANNA BE GUNSLINGER .WITH NO MOBILITY,THAT MAKES BAD DECISIONS... id rather have mark any day over wamsey...glad he is no longer here. Although i believe if Steve Sspurrier had protected him just a little he would have progressed more than he has..sorry just tryin to be honest

can we all just get along and drop the ramsey stuff finally? whats it been almost 2 yrs now....

It probably was but Gibbs is so in love with Brunell that he benched the guy for his man. If he didn't bench Ramsey he would be here now as our starter but instead Gibbs crushed the guys igo and ruined him as a QB.

Got that right! And once again rather than give a young QB a chance, we will continue with Brunell and go no were significant, so that next season we can all have the same argument again, WE CAN'T LET MARK GO BECAUSE WE HAVE NO EXPERIENCED QB BEHIND CAMPBELL! We should already have an experienced younger QB behind Campbell but we have been married to a washed up, overpaid loser in Brunell, we just had to have Collins as well last season who is absolutly pathetic, which also detracted from a younger talent learning as a backup.

This notion that we are in trouble if we let Brunell go is a joke, the fact is we are in trouble until we let him go! Sooner or later Gibbs has to cut the cord with this guy and realize that there are people on this planet who can play QB besides his beloved Brunell. If Campbell goes down, all of a sudden Brunell is going to lead us to the promised land? He's proven otherwise, I would much rather have an inexperienced QB in there who has the possiblity of becoming a winner, rather than a proven loser like Brunell. Brunell has had more than his fair share of opportunities to lead this team and has been horrible, time to move on!

I guarantee you that Brunell would be far better than any other QB we have on the current depth chart should JC get hurt. To say otherwise is just incorrect. I really think he'd be fine and able to maintain whatever JC started, assuming JC starts something good. The jury is still out.

None too Bright??? I know he wasnt a good qb but dont say he wasnt bright he had 2 majors dont remember exactly what they were but im sure you have to be in order to do that

I assume you meant 2 degrees, not majors.
To me, a football player in a large NCAA school getting a degree doesn't float with me too well. Sure some are legit, but more often than not these players have communication or kinesiology as a major, and a lot of grades are given to them because of their role as a vital football player and the amount of time that requires. Again, not all do that, but you never know who does.

I assume you meant 2 degrees, not majors.
To me, a football player in a large NCAA school getting a degree doesn't float with me too well. Sure some are legit, but more often than not these players have communication or kinesiology as a major, and a lot of grades are given to them because of their role as a vital football player and the amount of time that requires. Again, not all do that, but you never know who does.

He was also named to the Conference USA Commissioner's honor roll 5 times.

When it came to school he was no joke, Tulane is a good school too.

His football IQ might be lacking, but off the field he seems pretty sharp.

And I can guarantee you that every teacher I had at Tulane put more pressure on football players to perform. I had 2 classes that had football players in them while I was there and in one class I witnessed a teacher rant against football players missing class for any reason relating to football because they "aren't going to the NFL." At the very least the football players were held to the same standard as the rest of us.

I knew a couple guys on the team, they certainly didn't get a free pass. And, on that note, they were all pretty damn bright. If you're recruited by TU you have to have the grades to go there. It doesn't have a reputation for being the "Harvard of the South" for no reason.

Finally, from personal experience, I have no idea how Pat double majored. I was killing myself trying to keep up with 12 credits there. I came away with great grades, but I worked as hard as I ever have for those A's. That school is hard as hell, to double major without being an athlete is crazy, I don't see how he did it.