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For the most part I think whoever WINS the cup deserves to win it. The Avs winning didn't bother me so much as the Devils losing. If they Avs win this year I'll think it's lame. Buying a team is lame. A bought team is not worth rooting for in my book...not that there's anything wrong with anyone else doing so... I'd think it was cool if teh Devils became ALL-STAR and won teh cup...but you can't get attached to mercenary players -- they're guns for hire...and that doesn't make for long term enjoyment -- then you love a sweater and a rink is all...that's sad.

I'm happy a great defenseman finally got his name on the cup -- but I also thought it was kind of pathetic -- blame Boston Blame Bourke -- it still doesn't change the fact that I pitied him hoisting it. And teh Avs retiring his number ... well it's in keeping with the whole buying a team line of thought --- nahhh - it's bullsh!t plain and simple that's turn hangin from your rafters even i can't polish my Avalanche fan friend...

For the most part I think whoever WINS the cup deserves to win it. The Avs winning didn't bother me so much as the Devils losing. If they Avs win this year I'll think it's lame. Buying a team is lame. A bought team is not worth rooting for in my book...not that there's anything wrong with anyone else doing so... I'd think it was cool if teh Devils became ALL-STAR and won teh cup...but you can't get attached to mercenary players -- they're guns for hire...and that doesn't make for long term enjoyment -- then you love a sweater and a rink is all...that's sad.

I'm happy a great defenseman finally got his name on the cup -- but I also thought it was kind of pathetic -- blame Boston Blame Bourke -- it still doesn't change the fact that I pitied him hoisting it. And teh Avs retiring his number ... well it's in keeping with the whole buying a team line of thought --- nahhh - it's bullsh!t plain and simple that's a turd hangin from your rafters that even i can't polish my Avalanche fan friend...

BTW, when did the Avalanche BUY a CUP???? Making trades and re-signing players for their market value isn't buying a Cup....

SAD???? You guys have a team that rarely sells out during the regular season and almost moved to Nashville a few years ago....

[quote]I've NEVER once spoken for Bruins fans....[quote]Dew, backoff, don't speak on what you know nothing of....any disgruntled fan from another team thinks thats what happened, softens the blow from having to hear what a great team it was all the time....just because the Bruins are dedicated to losing doesn't mean Ray had to be, F*CK LOYALTY, especially when the Bruins broke their loyalty to Ray first....[/quote][/quote]

sounded to me like you were.

[quote]Never disputed that, but there was no way he was trading Ray to a confrence rival.[/quote]That's BS, never stopped Harry from trading Wesley to one of our Biggest rivals, the Whalers, or Oates to Washington, Harry sent the players where he could get the best deal.

[quote]The B's broke their loyalty to Ray, when he was re-signed, and he agreed to a contract that would keep him with the B's, PAST his eligibility for free agency, on Harrys word that they'd make a drive for the Cup.

I don't think any team buys a championship. Every title team will have some core guys they built it around. Go ahead and look at the rosters of these teams. You usually have some drafted guys or even guys you got through compensation (Stevens) that turned your team into a powerhouse. Without Stevens, the Devils may never have won those Cups. Scott Stevens is the guy who each Cup was built around. Defense. But Stevens has to be considered a Devil first. He's been there a long time and he's done so much to make them a great franchise. This example can be made with the '94 Rangers and for most of the 90's, they dominated the regular season. But without Messier, they wouldn't have won their Cup and been as strong for that 6-7 year period.

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"The greatest trick Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

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well, I always enjoy a healthy debate, but I'm really sick of having to set the Bourque Saga straight.

People who were Devs fans experienced the opposite of Bruins fans:

the Devs were once called a "mickey mouse" organization and were at one point a laughingstock. Now, they are one of the most competitive, fiscally responsible teams in the NHL, who have one 3 stanley cups in 9 years. They are a dynasty.

The Bruins, on the other hand, were a once great team, fueled by a long history and players like Orr, Bucyk, Espo, Shore...

Now, they are a mockery of an original Six team, more so than the Rangers, with poor drafts, inadequate player development, and even more dispicable FA signings (anyone seen Andrei "the Empty Tank" Kovalenko or Paul Coffey around lately?), including Jacobs ordering O'connell to outbid any team for the services of one Martin LaPointe, just to piss off Mike Illitch. (if you want the history on that, a few years ago, Illitch confronted Jacobs and told him he was a disgrace to the league, and a cheap SOB)

That's BS, never stopped Harry from trading Wesley to one of our Biggest rivals, the Whalers, or Oates to Washington, Harry sent the players where he could get the best deal.

They're no where near the player or fan favorite Ray was....

You know how we feel? Really? Highly doubtful. And don't think that Ray doesn't feel empty about his ring, because he's said repeatedly to the media here that although he is happy he won, he would have RATHER DONE IT AS A BRUIN, and that is his only regret.

He might have RATHER done it as a BRUIN, but he still apprciates it all the more just having it....

Hmm, when was this that Harry said they'd make a drive for the cup.. Last time I heard those words out of Harry's mouth it was like 1979 when Ray started. Ray knew, as did every player whose played here in the past 15 years, as did the fans, that the organization was NOT interested in winning a cup. Ray has repeatedly said that in 90 they were missing one key ingredient, and always were, and that the B's management was too damned cheap to get it. Jacobs does not care about winning a cup, only selling hope, and the only reason he even slightly invested in this team back then was to convince the city to help fund the Fleet center. So, no offense here, but you're talking out your arse on this one. Ray had many opportunities to leave, he chose to stay, and then tried to play the lack of dedication card.

It all happened when he signed Ray for 6 years at age 28 or 29 I believe it was....you don't have to tell me the Bruins management sucks, the whole NHL already has seen it....

No, it was a slap in the face to Bruins management, and a mockery to the NHL.

The Bruins slapped Ray in the face, you expected something less?

I will agree to disagree with you on this.

Of course you will, your a bitter disgruntled Devils fan....your team got beat that year, you have NO EXCUSES....PATRICK ROY let in 1 goal combined in games 6 and 7, he GAVE the Devils a chance to win it, but they choked in game 6 and didn't show up for game 7....

Leeds, you know that was the first attack I have made in a long time. It is far from my style. I would invite you to prove me wrong on this one.

The difference between my attacks and your attacks is that I back up my statements. I justified what I said before that "attack" well. But you singled that small line out from the rest. Great.

Meanwhile, you attack in your signature, a new attack every month. There's no back up. You attack in posts and expect everyone to agree with you. When someone asks you to back it up, you say nothing. When someone disagrees, you call them an idiot. And when someone uses facts to prove you are wrong, you don't even care to respond.

I wouldn't call what I said to PatrickRoy33 much of an attack, especially when it was responding to "F*CK LOYALTY," a disgraceful thing for a hockey fan to say. Here's an attack. You like to see what you want to see and ignore everything else. It goes for everything you post here, whether it's sports or politics. You deem everything you agree with as truth and deem anybody that disagrees, even if they substantiate their opinion, idiots. You're close-minded about everything.

You want an attack? Half of your posts are attacks. At least the few I make are backed up with facts and opinions. Please prove me wrong and post a couple of the attacks I have made... I've backed up my arguments and refrain from personal attacks... you attack without any back-up... you're a hypocrite, just open your mind up for ten seconds, realize you're not God, and deal with it.