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Nature must have designed the structure of the real visible Universe and made it apparent to every real creature that would ever exist. The real Universe must consist of only one single unified visible infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light. All speculation about the complex behavior of invisible quantum particles am unnatural.

"Yet the mathematics of Hawking radiation is very clear on this point: the quantum state of any one radiation particle is random, and carries no useful information."

The problem is not with the math, but with the misinterpretation of what the math means. A random state DOES contain information. In fact, a random sequence has the highest possible density of information. Problem solved.

"Physicists had to accept that this ’uncertainty principle’ wasn’t just a practical limitation of their measuring apparatus, but a fundamental limitation on the kinds of questions they could ask experimentally."

The uncertainty principle is identical to saying that every measurement must contain >= one bit of information. If you have failed to extract at least one bit of information from a measarement, then you have failed to perform anything worthy of being called a measurement.

I think you are quite correct in that. I've been musing on a scenario of an electron - positron annihilation event and while it can be seen physically as an instant in which there only exists opposite charge, it also must be reckoned that all the associated spin measurement characteristics must also come into chirality anti-alignment for the opposites to physically merge into that instantaneous transmutation from mass to energy.

I recently came across this quote from Dirac (who first predicted the existence of the positron), in connection with a reading and discussion course I am going to be leading this spring, based on the Quantum Theory selections in the book "What's the Matter - Readings in Physics" (https://store.greatbooks.org/colleges-book-groups/what-s-the-matter-readings-in-physics.html) from the Great Books Foundation:

“The important thing about electrons and protons is not what they are but how they behave, how they move. I can describe the situation by comparing it to the game of chess. In chess, we have various chessmen, kings, knights, pawns and so on. If you ask what a chessman is, the answer would be that it is a piece of wood, or a piece of ivory, or perhaps just a sign written on paper, or anything whatever. It does not matter. Each chessman has a characteristic way of moving and this is all that matters about it.” P.A.M. Dirac

I agree. Quantum Physics only describes how things are observed to behave, not what they are, or why they exhibit such behaviors; that is what information is all about - the behavior of measurements of things, rather than either the things per se or their behaviors. There are "things", "behaviors of things" and "measurements of behaviors of things" and they are all different. Physics has confused them. Here are some additional thoughts on the subject, that I have been putting together, for the above mentioned course: What Went Wrong with the “interpretation” of Quantum Theory?

Robert, I like the quote from Dirac.I also really like your, quote: " There are "things", "behaviors of things" and "measurements of behaviors of things" and they are all different. " That is an important point.

Things exist independently of observation of them. I think there are the "chessmen" when not looking. They can behave independently of observation.

Description of the behaviour requires some viewpoint, or co-ordinate grid or relational information in addition to the existing thing, Such as orientation and direction of movement relative to something else. using the analogy, the describer of the chessmen's behaviour needs the chessboard.

Measurement of the behaviour of the existing thing itself requires some kind of interaction with it and so is not independent of the process. The measurement is in part due to the apparatus and/or protocol used to obtain it.

INVISIBLE quanta cannot possibly “describe” any INVISIBLE abstract thing. Each VISIBLE real thing has a real VISIBLE surface. This am because Nature has only ever produced one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am eternally illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

INVISIBLE “Things” cannot possibly exist independently of observation of them. I think there are the "chessmen" when not looking.” They can behave independently of observation.” You cannot think of any real visible chess piece unless you have actually once seen part of the visible surface of a real visible chess piece. The real visible surfaces of chess pieces can be manufactured in an infinite number of sizes and styles. Chess masters can indeed play chess games while blindfolded, but they only produce finite notational information concerning their mentally “played”.games. I am not disputing the fact that the physicists have recently produced a vast amount of finite information concerning invisible abstractions, I only insist that the real VISIBLE surface of the earth was evident for over a million years before man ever set foot on it, therefore, all finite information has nothing to do with VISIBLE REALITY.

I have long suspected that the user name 'joe fisher' is a pseudonym for a long known Fin Fisher exploitation app that was originally engineered by the U.S. NSA for hacking into state and non-state adversaries decades ago, but lisenced world-wide to government proxies of that era whom no longer are aligned with U.S. policies. It operates by a network of ever evolving decoy servers which are all but invisible to legitimate tracking, such as the computer science lab at the University of Toronto. For the record 'joe' an email giving the parallelized base of: Lambda/alpha | h/-8pi which I sent to a personal contact on 12/6/17 was not received, and immediately upon my sending a follow-up to that contact the email containing that expression disappeared from my email sent list. And Lee, you are ripping off the most politically powerful family in the English speaking world. I am a bloodline Russell grandson. jrc

Black hole singularities represent the boundary of what is knowable classically. However, in the determinate geodesics of general relativity, there is no sense to any determinate and therefore knowable paths inside of a black hole.

This article proposes that the many possible paths of a particle at an event horizon are just a result of purely classical chaos. It is just the exponentially large number of paths that preclude knowing what is a fundamentally determinate and therefore knowable particle path.

The interaction of a quantum particle with an event horizon is what results in Hawking radiation and also what results in firewalls and also eternally collapsing objects. Quantum phase has no meaning in the Oppenheimer dust of a classic black hole, but that does not stop very smart people from calculating things like Hawking radiation or firewalls or eco's and then endlessly arguing about them.

Good luck to Brown and Susskind. The complexity of the math of this topic will likely result in a perfectly acceptable and utterly opaque papers that even very smart people will argue about endlessly.

There really needs to be some kind of quantum gravity theory in place before anyone can ever make sense out of the quantum phase noise at an event horizon or any spacetime singularity. What these kinds of papers end up doing is simply showing that science does not yet have a way to handle quantum phase noise at spacetime singularities like black holes.

On December 7, 2017, I have emailed : “Dear Theoretical Physicist Adam Brown;

You wrote in the opening paragraph of a project Complexity, Black Holes, and Observers that you submitted to FQXi.org: “There are some (abstract) things that no single (abstract) observer can know, even in principle.

I know that the real VISIBLE Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light because no matter in which direction I look, I only see a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface. I find it doubtful that Nature would have given just this singular observational capability to only me, so I am confident that any real eye could only ever see a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface. I am confident that the real eyes of the real dinosaurs only ever saw a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface no matter in which direction they looked during their whole lifetime. As this happened over a million years before man appeared on the planet, I KNOW THAT ALL THE INFORMATION WRITTEN BY MAN CONCERNING INVISIBLE BLACK HOLES AM UTTERLY WRONG.

I know you are an ethical SCIENTIST. Please return the $37,500 you were Granted for your worthless project to the Foundational Questions Institute.

I failed to mention that although conventional chess game proficiency can be programmed into a computer and simultaneously played by some blindfolded Chess Masters, Grandmaster Fischer Chess games cannot be programmed into a computer, and no blindfolded game could ever be played. Bobby Fischer Chess allows the random first row placement of the eight major pieces at the commencement of each game.

1) "Let’s also say that you’ve ringed it with the ultimate sensor array, including enough telescopes, radio dishes, gravitational wave detectors, and the like to measure every quantum of energy emerging from the system.”

The world lines of these detectors is crucial. Detectors on timelike geodesics will not see the same phenomena as COINCIDENT detectors...

1) "Let’s also say that you’ve ringed it with the ultimate sensor array, including enough telescopes, radio dishes, gravitational wave detectors, and the like to measure every quantum of energy emerging from the system.”

The world lines of these detectors is crucial. Detectors on timelike geodesics will not see the same phenomena as COINCIDENT detectors on, e.g. static off-geodesic world lines at a fixed distance outside the black hole horizon because of the Unruh effect.

Of course Bob’s rocket engines will quit before Bob can adiabatically approach close to the horizon in a quasi-hovering manner.

On the other hand, Alice is freely falling on a radial geodesic into the black hole. Since her g = 0 she does not see any finite temperature T at all.

However, if Bob gets too close to the horizon and begins to burn up, Alice can catch on fire from Bob if she passes by him too closely.

2) "the monogamy of entanglement’ says that no particle can be entangled with more than one thing at a time.”

That is not precisely stated. Obviously, one can easily make N-particle entangled states. The “monogamy” seems to pertain to the measure of entanglement (of which there are several) of subsets N’ < N that decreases as N —> infinity. Said in other words, roughly, as we increase the number N of maximally entangled particles in a zero entropy pure state, the entropy of the mixed states of entangled subsets will increase (i.e. the degree of entanglement of these subsets will decrease).

Suppose we have a maximally entangled Bell pair state, e.g. the “singlet"

|A,B> = (1/srt2)[|A1>|B0> - |A0>|B1>]

This is a pure state whose von-Neumann pair entropy S(A,B) is zero.

The von-Neumann entropy S is only non-zero for mixed states with classical probabilities pi

S ~ sum over all i of pilogpi

If p1 = 1 all the others pi = 0 and log1 = 0 therefore S = 0.

Treating the entropy S as a necessary, though not sufficient, measure of entanglement we can say that any maximally entangled state must be pure with zero entropy, although not all pure states are even entangled.

To be more precise. Given a complete orthonormal set of base states |i> form the projection operators |i> = (1/sqrt2)[|A1>|B1>|C1> + |A0>|B0>|C0>]

It would be better to know first what carries information. Our living space transfers information between discrete objects that are embedded in this field via vibrations and deformations. The information generating objects and the perceiving object have no direct contact with each other. Two categories of super-tiny objects exist that are shock fronts which are triggered by point-like actuators. The one-dimensional super-tiny shock fronts carry a standard bit of energy. Combined at equidistant instants in strings that obey the Einstein-Planck relation E = h v, they implement the functionality of photons. Super-tiny spherical shock fronts integrate into the Green's function of the field. Locally, the volume of the Green's function deforms the field. Globally it extends the field. So temporarily, the spherical shock front owns an amount of mass. However, the deformation quickly fades away.