UK: Muslim prisoner plotted to behead guard, but move to special unit would breach his rights

“A jailed jihadi was put in segregation for plotting to behead prison guards – but a judge has ruled that the move breached his human rights.”

There in a nutshell is the problem with contemporary Britain, and the deep crisis it faces of its own doing.

“Nadir Syed, 24, was placed in isolation at the top-security Woodhill jail after he led other Muslim inmates in chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ (‘God is Great’), banging on cell doors and threatening to decapitate warders.”

“Allah akbar” doesn’t mean “God is great.” It means “Allah is greater” — greater than your god, your government, anything. It is a declaration of supremacism often accompanied by an act of violence that the perpetrators understand to be a manifestation of the divine wrath.

“Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal that staff were warned not to be left alone with him to ‘prevent the risk of hostage-taking’, while Syed had also claimed he would ‘radicalise the whole unit’ in another prison.”

Imagine the damage this man is causing, and the havoc he is sowing for Britain in the future. Yet still they remain above all solicitous of what they perceive to be his human rights. They mustn’t appear to be “Islamophobic,” of course.

“Allahu Akbar, let’s behead a screw: Blood-curdling cry issued by a Muslim extremist who plotted to murder a warder… but he won’t be moved to a new ‘jihadi jail’ unit because that would infringe his human rights!,” by Omar Wahid and Martin Beckford, The Mail on Sunday, April 22, 2017 (thanks to Inexion):

A jailed jihadi was put in segregation for plotting to behead prison guards – but a judge has ruled that the move breached his human rights.

Nadir Syed, 24, was placed in isolation at the top-security Woodhill jail after he led other Muslim inmates in chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ (‘God is Great’), banging on cell doors and threatening to decapitate warders.

Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal that staff were warned not to be left alone with him to ‘prevent the risk of hostage-taking’, while Syed had also claimed he would ‘radicalise the whole unit’ in another prison.

But Syed, serving a life sentence for planning to behead a poppy-seller in a Lee Rigby-style attack, successfully sued the Ministry of Justice after he was placed in a unit by himself.

The astonishing revelation comes just two days after the Government announced a flagship policy to tackle radicalisation behind bars, with special ‘prisons within prisons’ being set up this summer to hold the most dangerous extremists.

Ministers are taking the drastic step amid growing concern that hundreds of vulnerable inmates are at risk of having their minds warped by extremists and being turned into terrorists when they are released.

Last night Philip Davies, the Tory MP for Shipley who sits on the Justice Select Committee, said: ‘It’s all right for the judge respecting the human rights of the prisoner, but what about the human rights of the prison staff he was threatening to behead? The reason why so many people have lost faith in the justice system is because you get ridiculous decisions like that.’

He added: ‘I welcome the new separation centres for extremist prisoners because they often target other, more vulnerable prisoners and radicalise them. But there is a risk that extremist inmates will launch legal action against the new jails on human rights grounds, and a judge might rule in their favour and undermine the whole thing.’

Syed, from Hounslow, West London, is serving life for plotting to behead a poppy-seller on Remembrance Sunday with a 12in kitchen knife, inspired by the killing of Fusilier Lee Rigby on the streets of London four years ago. When he was sentenced to a minimum of 15 years last year, Syed was told he may never be released to protect the public.

But chillingly, he remains intent on carrying out a beheading, even while locked up in Britain’s most secure institutions.

According to court documents, the authorities claim that while he was on remand before his trial began, Syed had ‘commented that, if he were convicted (as he was in December 2015), he would carry out the act that he was in prison for (that is, the act of preparing for an act of terrorism by acquiring a knife in order to kill, and behead, a person)’.

Just weeks after he was found guilty of preparation of terrorist acts, he was heard making murderous threats at Category A Woodhill jail in Buckinghamshire. ‘On the morning of January 7, 2016, there were reports that the claimant was part of a group of prisoners who were hitting cell doors, stating that officers oppressed Muslims, shouting Allahu Akbar and uttering threats of beheading,’ according to the High Court judgment.

When a guard entered Syed’s cell, the prisoner said that if officers ‘violated one [Muslim] brother, they violate all’, making more threats to behead prison staff all morning.

He then tried to get one particular officer to come into his cell, which the judge concluded was ‘an aggressive act and, indeed, reflects the same kind of hostility that had led to the act resulting in his conviction’. Syed was put in a segregation cell shortly afterwards, and weeks later was placed in a secure wing called the Central Managing Challenging Behaviour Unit (CMCBSU), because of the threat he posed to guards, and because of the fear that he was inciting other inmates to attack warders.

A Prison Service assessment of him said: ‘Mr Syed has a lot of intelligence stating that he has intentions to take staff hostage and behead them. He is also documented inciting others to disruptive behaviour and at HMP Belmarsh took part in this in the segregation unit, at the time he was also calling out “this is jihad”, and he threatened to radicalise the whole unit. Mr Syed presents a risk to others, especially staff and should be treated as such at all times. Staff are not to be alone with him to prevent the risk of hostage-taking.’…

The MoJ also said far-Right extremists will be put in the special centres with the jihadis. A briefing note says: ‘Referral to a Separation Centre is non-discriminatory and may include Right-wing extremists or religious extremists.’

In other words, they’re going to try to get the “right-wing extremists” killed.

Benedict, in this instance you miss the point entirely. It’s the ‘judiciary ‘that are undermining common sense and the protection of the people against this insane infection called islam that is sweeping the UK. If you Brits allow these left wing judges to impact on your sovereign right of protection from this type of insidious violence, then you are truly lost as a nation.

The judiciary since the time of Tony Blair has become institutionally left wing and “progressive” and very much under the thumb of the EU and the Court of Human Rights. They love the doctrine of human rights which in the UK has become a sort of criminals charter.

JIhadists should be isolated from the regular population as if they have bubonic plague. Special jihadist colonies should be created in which jihadists are given the option of intensive deprogramming for the purpose of shortening their sentences. Once they pass a university degree in counterjihadology they will be sufficient deprogrammed so that they are barely Muslim if Muslim at all.

But how do you know which ones are active jihadis? Surely all Muslims must be assumed to be jihadis since Islamic supremacy is a major component of their ideology. And the track record of Muslims in western society is generally so appalling that there is a strong case for excluding the lot of them.

Special jihadist colonies should be created in which jihadists are given the option of intensive deprogramming for the purpose of shortening their sentences. Once they pass a university degree in counterjihadology they will be sufficient deprogrammed so that they are barely Muslim if Muslim at all.
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Really? What universities offer degrees in counterjihadology, and how successful are such programs?

Remember Taqiyya, Mortimer–how many of these pious Muslims would just say all the right things, then just return to Jihad as soon as they got out?

And a lesser issue, but still a salient one–at a time when our young people are struggling with mountainous student debt to attend college, we now have to give every Muslim a free university education?

In Australia, the law once protected the innocent and punished the guilty. It has been reversed a lot of the time. Violent criminals go free on bail. If you defend yourself against them you may well end up in court. The police tell us that we must rely on them to protect us. Anyone who plots to murder has forfeited his right to be treated like a normal human being. I do not believe that Jihadists can be deprogrammed. The west has this delusion that Muslims actually like democracy. Actually, no. The few Muslim democracies are turning back to rule by Muslim clerics. Even when a vote is permitted it is select, acceptable candidates who stand. We just saw the end of real democracy in Indonesia, Obama’s example of a moderate Muslim nation where everyone gets on so well. That was never true, but things took a turn for the worse with a Christian losing an election because he is a Christian, and no other reason.

British and EU Law, and even international refugee law, is based on the premise that they are governing a romper room of cute little kids, everyone plays nice, bullies just need a bit of time out, and tears must be avoided at any cost.

Yes, it is insane. The social consequences of this idiocy are mounting like an approaching Tsunami.
Sooner or later, that wave is going to reach the beach umbrellas of the governing elites.

The West’s problem is that it is so different from Islam, that it does not have the intellectual, spiritual, social or moral equipment to take Islam seriously as what Islam is. What Islam means by “human rights” is not what the West means. Islam makes no distinction between politics and religion – the West does. So the West keeps making the idiotic blunder of trying to treat Islam as though it were a Western doctrine – it is not. It is not an “Abrahamic” religion either, unless Mormonism is. The idiocy of treating Islam as a sort of non-Christian Arab Church of England is indescribable. The West’s myopia is akin to racialism – it does not take the “otherness” of Islam seriously.

why can one judge overrule the heads of the prison in deciding what needs to be done for their own security? Why can one judge force immigration deemed by the u.s. gov’t to be dangerous to the citizens? Why does one judge have so much power?

and i wonder what reasons were given to support the idea that separating a prison agitator from the group was against his human rights? What human rights are those?

Is there no way to get this human waste to be beheaded in a “prison fight”? Who doesn’t know prisoners fight all the time? Surely an inquiry later on to establish the circumstances leading to a fight shouldn’t be such a big deal.
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The human rights of the prison guards are just as important so how about they all strike if they are not protected by the establishment they sacrifice their lives for? These parasites are evil and a virus that spreads from cell to cell…that needs to stop..isolate the disease and it will kill itself off! Islam is an abomination to world ?acceptance of all races…these lot are feral wild dogs that need a ??

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