David: When you first encountered a partial body, by that point, you said you had seen some arms and hands. Had you seen other limbs besides arms or hands?

Emery: No.

Yes, Yes, I saw pieces of like, a face, pieces . . .

David: Oh, really?

Emery: . . . of skin, maybe small fingers. It looked like some sort of appendages, some like, phalanges, maybe toes, feet, parts of, like, legs, very small parts though, cross-section parts, that were cut in a way that you would have to have a very special instrument to, you know, transect these particles of these tissues.

David: Hm.

Emery: The tissue particles I got were always cut in very specific ways. So when we got these tissues, we'd just, you know, of course, start right into, you know, we always had a job what we were going to do with this piece of tissue.

And then later came full bodies and torsos, maybe with or without a head, or a full arm, or other things, even genitalia – all sorts of different things. Yeah.

David: Now, did you have any particularly different surgical equipment? Like did you use a normal scalpel, or was there something unusual about that?

Emery: Yeah, there was normal surgical equipment that we'd normally use, but there was also other devices they had that were more advanced than the stuff that we had at that time.

There were more high-powered lasers and electrocautery devices that we'd normally use in surgery, but on a different level, using different types, I think, of frequencies.

There was one, also, it was like a sonic knife. And later on, that knife did come out to the civilian usage. But I was not familiar with that in modern civilian usage. And when I say “civilian”, also I mean “military” - just normal military hospitals were not using harmonic scalpels at that point.

And my first use of a harmonic scalpel was actually in that program.

David: All right. I want to ask you a question that we might think is dumb, but some people will take very seriously.

Emery: Sure.

David: You're handling exobiology.

Emery: Right.

David: And there's a lot of people out there that think that there are shapeshifting biological beings that can instantly morph from one form to another.

Some people have said that they think the world's elite are shapeshifting Reptilians.

Emery: That's right.

David: Did you encounter any shapeshifting biological matter?

Emery: I think I did. These transdimensional beings, when they get to that level, they are actually a level of consciousness that's beyond . . . like billions of years from now. They get to that light body form, and you can be whatever you want and go to any dimension to help out and do whatever.

But I believe that one of them died here in a 3D shape that . . . how we found him was kind of like a translucent blob, like a jellyfish, but longer. And I think, since it had light with it, I think it might have been one of these very higher-dimensional beings that was, maybe, in the mode of shifting.

Or maybe they had some way of capturing this type of energetic form. Like, you know, somehow encapsulating it, and then bringing it in.

It did give off light, but it didn't give off any type of frequency that we could pick up.

David: So it was approximately like an oval, like a human-type of shape, but just in a very general sense?

Emery: Yeah, it kind of looked like a cookie cutter – like you make those cookie-cutter doughboys at Christmas – but very bulbous, and round, and very liquidy.

David: How tall was it?

Emery: The one I was on was about 6' tall.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah.

David: But did it have any differentiated features that you could identify with the autopsy?

Emery: That was the problem. Those pieces of equipment they gave me to utilize to take the specimens did not work, because the tissue was fluid.

David: Oh.

Emery: So we were just using syringes, basic syringes, and needles, and special suction devices. And we were sucking just very small amounts of different parts of the body.

And I don't know where this being . . . that was my own conclusion, by the way. I don't know where this being came from, or how it even got there.

Later on, I learned more about extraterrestrials, and that's how I put two and two together.

And, of course, you know, transdimensional travel with extraterrestrials, and how they do it, and so forth.

David: So I would assume this had some sort of thicker membrane to hold the fluid in.

Emery: Yeah, it did. It was about a centimeter thick. And it reminded me of a very thick Jell-O. And when you cut it, it had a glow to it – when you cut it.

David: Inside?

Emery: Yeah, kind of like a cyalume light stick glow.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. And then it would just go away. And then that's when they said, “No more cutting. Start using needles and suction,” - very, very sharp suction devices we have that are very, very small, like 30-gauge suction devices, like 30-gauge-needle-type suction devices. And we were taking VERY small amounts of different parts of the body.

David: What would you say the viscosity of the liquid was inside? Was it like water, or was it more like a thick syrup, or . . .

Emery: Yeah, it was like a clear maple syrup.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yes. And there was parts inside that you could see that were giving off light – pink and purple and yellow.

But it looked like they had shapes, because this is a translucent being, but it's like you're looking into a clear Jell-O. So it's distorted – what that was.

But they would not let us take any samples of the colored liquid.

David: Wow!

Emery: Maybe someone else did, because it was so compartmentalized.

A lot of beings . . . A lot of different technicians had different things they did. And I wasn't that advanced at that time. So I did very simple things.

David: I think probably one of the hardest things for people watching this is going to be, “Come on, man!”

Emery: Yeah.

David: “You didn't try to ask anybody a question about what these things are, or where they came from?”

Emery: No, no. I signed a very big briefing document, and I knew what I was kind of getting into. I thought I was going to be actually doing just cadaver work on soldiers, but it wasn't.

When I got in there, it started escalating. And then I knew how serious it was.

And I have also heard of stories, whether they were true or not, of people talking after hours and things. And, you know, they'd go missing really quickly.

David: Wow!

Emery: So it was a very high turnover rate for technicians there, for clinical specialists, that were doing this type of work.

So I was really good at keeping secrets and keeping my mouth shut. And it got me really far. It was frustrating to a point, but I was so intrigued, and it was so, you know . . . I was just so enthralled with it.

I actually kind of got obsessed with going to work and wanting to know more and more and more, because I was coming up with my own conclusions.

And then I just started studying it on my own, which, there was really nothing out there at that time for that kind of extreme . . .

David: Did they monitor your usage of like a library card or Internet or . . .

Emery: Everything that I had was completely under full surveillance, 24/7. That was part of the deal, too.

And anyone that was with me would always be . . . not . . . they wouldn't TELL them, but anyone, my friends or anything. So it was hard to have friends and relationships.

Even up to this day, it's very hard for me to have anyone close to me, because I'm afraid for them to . . . you know, something would happen to them, because I've basically lost everyone so far.

David: That's right. And very soon after you lost all your stuff is when the brakes went out on my car.

Emery: That's right.

David: So.

Emery: I remember that.

David: All right. One of the things that I think we should cover here is the awesome size of the facility that you were working in, because we kind of got into that with the colored lines before.

Emery: Oh, right.

David: But if you personally are saying that you . . . Well, again, tell us how many different unique species did you appear to have seen?

Emery: Well, I'll say “specimens”, because I count my specimens as a species. Whether it was a real extraterrestrial, or it was something grown in a lab, or if it was just a disinformation piece of tissue they would throw out every now and then to technicians, which is very common in case something happens, so you won't be credible.

David: Right.

Emery: And so I would say a little bit over 3,000. And don't forget, you could do up to 10 to 20 examinations in one day if you were just doing very small harvesting biopsies of small tissue, just for DNA alone.

David: Oh, wow.

Emery: And then you might have one that would last you a week of analyzing, and collecting specimens, and giving reports to specific individuals.

And sometimes there would be more than one person that would come in and observe you, and say, “No, do this,” or “Do that,” instead of using the speaker phone head system for some reason. I don't know.

David: What would be the first thing that you would see when you pick up your folder?

Emery: It basically had basic stuff on it, like time, date, your room, you know, a “Red 12”, what they want you to exactly transect: “Just pull out the nerve,” “Just pull out the muscle,” “Just take this amount of tissue,” “Just draw up this amount of cc's of this liquid from this part of the body”.

It was very definitive of exactly what you were going to do.

And time was . . . They were really big on time and performance. So you would go in there, and you would not know what your second one would be on that pad. So you wouldn't know until you completed your first one.

David: So you might only have, let's say, 60 minutes to work on one cadaver?

Emery: They don't give you time.

David: Oh.

Emery: You do what you do. But the faster that you do these things, and the more proficient that you are at it, they like you. You know, of course, I'm moving more samples than anyone else.

So . . . And I was used to harvesting human tissue, anyway, with harvest transplants and stuff. So it was very easy for me to fall into this category and do these procedures.

David: Did they tell you what surgical instruments to use? Did they have that much of a protocol, or did you have some freedom?

Emery: Well, I pretty much have access to anything. There was a few times I went on the intercom and said, you know, “Hey, I need this.” “I need a number 11 blade,” or “I need a rongeur of this size.” It depends what it was.

But most everything is in that room that you could get from the wall. And if not, they would put it through, and you would get it, like, immediately, within a couple of minutes.

David: In the late 1990s, this alleged alien autopsy film came out – the Santilli autopsy film. I assume you've seen that.

Emery: I've heard about it. I didn't follow much up on it. I remember at the time, I did review it. Yeah.

David: Now one of the weird things about that film is that the . . . and there's debate to this day, and mythology, as to whether it's real or whether it was a very skillful fraud, but one of the weird things is that they peel this black thing off the eye, . . .

Emery: Oh, yeah, I saw that.

David: . . . and then the eyes are like looking up into the head underneath.

Emery: Absolutely. Yeah. A lot of the extraterrestrials that I've actually seen, their skulls and heads and stuff always had film over them, unless it was already taken off by somebody else.

David: Really?

Emery: And it wasn't always black and green like you hear in the stories. It could be many different colors. I've seen violet. I've seen pink. I've seen . . . but that film is always there.

David: Really!

Emery: There's always some sort of film or cap over the eye. And it kind of like conforms to the exact . . . whatever eye shape it is, whether you have a diamond eye, or a trapezoidal eye, or a hexagon eye, or a round eye. They're not always round, by the way.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it's just right over there. And I'm not sure. I always thought that's how we back-reverse-engineered night vision and infrared, is through the reverse-engineering of these ETs that they found, way back when, in the Navy.

And I remember hearing some generals talk about how they took these films off, and those were light-gathering and also light-suppressing films that were not biological, by the way.

David: Was there like a “Google Glass” component to it, like a heads-up display with information that you see?

Emery: No. I'm sure that most of these beings, if they were here, they have already telepathic . . . everything is projected into their consciousness and brain.

David: Hm.

Emery: So I'm pretty certain they wouldn't have any cool helmets, or chairs, or anything like that they sit down in. It doesn't exist.

When I see these craft people show on TV, on a couple of shows I saw, they're like showing these cockpits, and all these buttons.

David: Right.

Emery: And I'm like, wow, they have no idea.

David: Did you find evidence of beings with hardware, like technology hardware in their bodies?

Emery: Yeah, yeah.

David: And what types of hardware?

Emery: Yeah, not just even hardware, but also on the outside of the bodies, which is really neat, such as things that come out of their head to their mouth and nose, from the back of the head.

I found many types of – which would show up on X-ray – cylinders inside the body. But I was never allowed to take one out or to touch it. I don't know what it was used for, but they were always cylindrical, like capsules, like that you take with vitamins.

David: Like that size.

Emery: Like that kind of size. And they could be . . . I mean, no, that shape, . . .

David: Oh.

Emery: . . . but many different sizes.

David: Hm.

Emery: And sometimes in many different places of the body.

And I don't know if that was put in there by us, or that's just something that they use for their . . . to help communicate with us or something.

I had a feeling that it was more of an adapting process for the body to maybe survive in this atmosphere. And it could have been a field, too, to protect the body.

There's many extraterrestrials that have fields around the body. You can't . . . It's very thin, and it's very small. You can't see it, but it's so thin. It's microscopic. But it's there, and it protects the whole body from this atmosphere.

David: Hm.

Emery: And I think these other devices that we see coming out of the ears or the head, that come around over the mouth and nose, probably has to do with atmospheric breathing and communication.

David: Hm.

Emery: My belief, anyway.

David: The reason why I ask that is that you described them seeming to be downloaded with information. You said that they wouldn't need a heads-up display on these little things that cover their eyes.

So is that some sort of wet-wired technological interface with their consciousness?

Emery: Yeah, I think a lot of them have advanced to this consciousness-assisted technology that they either implanted into themselves, or, just because of them growing over millions of years and forming into these amazing beings, have developed ways and sciences that we cannot even understand or comprehend, because we wouldn't understand the science, because the science doesn't exist yet.

It would all be there already inside the being.

We're talking about beings that have obviously traveled billions of light years, or thousands of light years, to get here. So they have mastered this travel across the universe, and maybe even transdimensionally.

So it would only be well-suited to believe or think that – and that's just my hypothesis, by the way – that they would have this technology already ensued in them.

David: If we have this wet-wire interface, could there be, in certain cases, a sort of booby-trap effect where that would self-destruct the body so that it couldn't be identified? Do you think that was ever happening?

Emery: What I do believe in, what I have heard second-hand from being in the projects, is: a lot of these beings that came to the planet were actually clones of their own – the 3D ones that were actually maybe captured – were actually clones of their own. They were like programmed life form beings.

So they clone them, they program them . . .

David: They clone themselves, like their own body?

Emery: Right. They clone themselves, or they'll clone a similar being from them. And they'll . . . Programmed Life Form. We call them PLFs.

And these PLFs are . . . They're half cybernetic and they're half organic. And so they can move very fluid, like a person. You would not even know.

And when they crash or whatever, sometimes ETs actually want to crash their vehicles here to help upgrade us so they [humans] can reverse-engineer the stuff. And the bodies they find are actually just these PLFs that maybe last a week or up to a year with no sustenance.

But they found that out the hard way. When they were capturing these – and most of them were dead when they crashed – and they were putting them in alcohol or formaldehyde, and the body would instantly just dissolve.

Because it's not like something we would catch here and put in our lab, an animal, or a human hand, or a brain, or something that has a very strong tissue, collagen structure. It was made up of a synthetic structure.

So they started using saline and special types of water and plasmas.

David: On the 50-year anniversary of the Roswell crash in 1997, Colonel Philip Corso came out with the book, “The Day After Roswell”.

And one of the testimonies that he had in that book was that the original Roswell beings . . . our government was very confused, because they basically had, like, a tube that went from the esophagus to the anus. And there was really no . . .

Emery: Exactly.

David: . . . digestive system.

Emery: Right.

David: So how does that relate to this PLF thing?

Emery: That's exactly what a PLF would look like. The design of that – and I have worked on clones and PLFs before . . . There is no digestive tract or anything, but they're somehow able to have an electrical charge in them that is sustained for a while, that helps the muscles, and their bodies, and also transmit data to whoever sent them.

And they don't need . . . I mean, I don't know what that tube is for, but I know exactly what he was talking about, because we've seen these tubes.

And maybe they have something that they have to take, because we've seen multiple tubes that go off of this tube – like a tree -

David: Oh! Really?

Emery: . . . a branch. Yeah. But it doesn't go anywhere. It just goes into this spongy tissue, which is made up of muscle, and just tendons and stuff.

And also incorporated with that is a type of metal, and other info-, exo-, not an exoskeleton, but an inner skeleton that keeps these beings, I guess, alive for the mission.

And I think each one of those are made for every different mission they have, whether it's crashing into the ocean and giving us some stuff, or carrying out . . . collecting lavender in a field or something.

David: The material, genetically, that makes a PLF, is that grown, or does it have to be actually taken from another being? How do you get the material, the biological material?

Emery: Unlike here, where we grow stuff on Earth, like beings and clones and hybrids, extraterrestrials actually formed this through harmonics and frequency and sound.

So they can make anything, cells, or synthetic cells, which I'm pretty certain they're synthetic, through some of the stuff that I've collected.

And, by the way, I've never got to see an actual synthetic cell under a microscope, or an electron microscope. but just from debriefings I have been on and things that I've seen with my physical eyes, I can tell the tissue was not real tissue, but it was operational tissue.

Just like today, they have pieces of synthetic things they can put in your body to replace a tendon or help strengthen a vessel. You know, we put vessels in all the time.

David: Just to be clear, though, if you're saying it's a synthetic cell, it would still have amino acids and proteins . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . consistent with life.

Emery: Right.

David: It's not like it's made out of plastic.

Emery: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's more of a hybrid of synthetic and real organisms, but it's not one or the other. Because from what – this is second-hand – what I heard, they didn't have mitochondria in them, and they didn't have DNA, but the cell did operate the way it was supposed to operate.

David: Weird.

Emery: Yes, very weird.

David: If there's no mitochondria, how does it have energy?

Emery: Yeah, good question. That's science that I wouldn't even know about yet.

David: Right.

Emery: But that is something that's asked.

David: Can they culture, like, a small sample of tissue, and then make a lot more, and then use that to grow one of these . . .

Emery: I believe, personally, that's what they're trying to do with all these samples. I wasn't in on that.

David: Oh.

Emery: I do not know. I've heard that . . . Of course, most of the samples are not just tested. They are trying to learn how to hybridize these cells with human cells, and trying to grow things in the lab by mixing these cells together, is what they're trying to do.

And I didn't find that out 'til way later down the road, by the way. So THAT I do know.

David: If there are synthetic aspects to the cell, what would be something that we might identify? Would we find molecules? Would we find alloys? Is there metals in the cell?

What kind of things might be unusual?

Emery: Well, the unusual things that I've heard after this . . . and this is not me seeing the cell.

David: Okay.

Emery: Just so you know, I've seen briefings on my folder. I went through many things where they had pictures of these cells, but I did not see this. I did not personally see the cell.

David: Okay.

Emery: They had many different shapes. And they had . . . A lot of them were geometric, which is weird, because . . .

Emery: Or maybe they're a concave disk, like a red blood cell, which is a very unique design. But these cells were more of a lattice. So they formed shapes, and they formed honeycombs and different things, and they definitely had an electrical output to them. And where that came from, I don't know.

So they kind of ran off, I think, their own field of the energy of the Earth for a certain amount of time.

And maybe that tube was used to put certain elements in to help with the electrical part of the body, because those were all temporary – the ones that were found here.

But I'm sure they have ones that last a lifetime.

David: I'm trying to help the skeptics along here, just in terms of . . . You know, a healthy skeptic, I think, would ask healthy skeptical questions.

Emery: Right.

David: We seem to view biological material, clone material, as being rare, valuable, hard to make. And you're talking about beings that are like plastic bags.

Emery: Right.

David: Like one week and they're done.

Emery: Oh, no. Yeah. Yes.

David: So how could these genetic materials be so abundant that they would be that disposable?

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding.

Emery: Oh, that's easy. I mean, number one, these beings, I'm telling you, they can make anything they want. They don't need our gold. They don't need our sperm or our eggs.

David: Right.

Emery: I mean, that's something they could do on their own.

David: Right.

Emery: They don't need to come here. If anything, they're trying to preserve us. But they don't need . . . They're trying to preserve this DNA at THIS time, maybe.

But getting back to your question, is that right now, even in OUR projects, right now we have the ability to 3D print any organ in your body that you need. A lung? No problem. A heart? No problem – with your DNA, using your cells from the tissue from the broken or dead organ, or from another part of the body.

David: Wow!

Emery: Because enfolded in the DNA is actually every part of your body.

David: Right, of course.

Emery: And that's what's so cool. And when you open the DNA up, I can say, “Oh, here's Dave's heart”, put it in the computer, and now the printer will print your heart. And now we can do a heart transplant with your own heart, but we'll give you one a little bit younger and stronger. And we'll juice it up.

David: I want to toss in something that my insider, Jacob, said to me once, which was that we are currently believing that neurological tissue cannot be regrown. And, yet, he had reports of people who had been through catastrophic spinal cord injuries, and that even if the nerve fibers had completely gone dead, and rotted, and been reabsorbed by the body, that they could put this thing at the base of the spinal cord in the neck, and that the nerves would just grow back into the body, and the person would get all their function back.

Emery: Absolutely true. And even on a medieval way, like with a system they created with stem cells, harvesting them from fat and bone marrow and blood, we have had amazing experiences with quadriplegics and people who have had really bad spinal cord injuries come back.

And so with the neural stuff, we CAN grow any cell. There is not a cell we can't grow. That's fake. That's false what they want you to believe. And that's what's the truth.

David: Do you believe, as other types of insiders have said, that there is a negative aspect to our planet at this time that is seeking to reduce population dramatically?

Emery: I do believe that. And you can see it every day. It's not hard.

I hate to call out corporation names, but, you know, and things that are going on everywhere with politics, because I try to stay neutral.

David: Right.

Emery: But yes. I mean, you can just look around and see. It'd be so easy to do. I mean, if there was just no electric [electricity] for a couple of days, and I'm diabetic, and I can't get to a Walgreens for my insulin shot. You know how many people in the world have that.

David: Right.

Emery: So, I mean, these little things that you don't really think about. It would look so harmless that all these people died, but, you know, if it was an intentional way to do it.

David: So what I'm getting at here is, if you're saying that any part of the body could be grown, I assume that would also mean if somebody loses their arm, you could grow another arm for them in a vat or something and attach it, right?

Emery: Oh, it's beyond that. If I have just a few of your DNA that's not completely destroyed – it's not completely dead – we can actually just take that DNA and make your whole body back, because it enfolds within it all the consciousness things that you have endured through this lifetime like a hard drive. And you're still you.

And we can grow that – your whole body.

David: Would there have to be some sort of biologically-based broth, or something, that you have to feed these cells with in order to get them to grow?

Emery: Yeah. It's protein, amino acid based – the very basis of life. All of the things that you hear about is what it's full of. And the computer knows when to add collagen, when to add osteocytes and osteoclasts, and all these different cells in the body to help reform it.

And sometimes there is a glitch in the printer, and some things happen, but it immediately puts the cells in there to fix it, which is amazing.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And these are huge vats that, you know, . . . You can basically regrow yourself, if needed.

David: We have just a couple minutes left, but one of the things I wanted to cover is, in previous episodes, you talked about seeing what may have been a 10' tall Reptilian in custody.

Emery: Yes.

David: But then you very – I would almost say flippantly - “Oh, yeah, it could've just been something we grew.” Like it's no big deal.

Emery: It's no big deal. We can grow . . .

David: How did you get to the point of knowing that that could have been done?

Emery: Because that's why I went into the regenerative part and started learning a little bit more about what they were doing with growing cells and growing things.

David: “They” who?

Emery: The labs.

David: Okay.

Emery: We'll call them the labs. And what they were trying to do, like I said, is also make fake extraterrestrials, . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . to make . . . just have them in their back pocket just in case, to make them look good, bad, evil, or happy, or healthy, or scary, or good-looking, whatever they wanted to do. And they did. They're very successful with it.

So that's why I said, when I saw this being, this species or whatever, maybe . . . I don't know where that came from. I can't tell you.

I could say that I believe it was real. And it was smelly and breathy. You know, it breathed.

But that's where PLFs come in, too. So programmed life forms are the same thing: are grown species that are programmed to do certain things, certain jobs.

David: Without naming anyone specifically, I have a story about one of our former presidents, and this idea that they can be cloned, and that you might be seeing someone who looks exactly the same, but it could be a totally different biological form than the one that's the real one.

Are you aware of that?

Emery: Yes, I am.

David: Okay. So is there some problem with the clone in terms of, like, if you had a conversation with it, does it have the same memories? Is it aware that it's a clone?

Emery: No.

David: Or does it think it's the same person?

Emery: It's not like I was telling you earlier when we take your DNA and make you. It's . . . We take partial parts of your DNA, make you as a clone without the consciousness part of it. So we . . . It's programmed into you. We program the memories into you.

You might think you had a family, and that you knew that you took this job to look like this president. Up to date, all the way back.

They could even make more clones to be put with you to make you think you have a family, or you would just think. Or maybe they just need you for one job.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: Wow! This is really intense.

That's all the time we have in this episode of Cosmic Disclosure. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with Emery Smith, exposing the truth about very advanced genetic programs involving extraterrestrial biology.

Thanks for watching.

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