I'm guessing mainly fleet sales, as you can get any trim with that now as well.

those could be canadian prices..

Yes, they are. And you US guys thought your trucks were overpriced, HA. Especially with the dollar at nearly 1:1!

TXNSLighting

03-16-2010, 11:25 PM

After seeing Canadian prices, i think our prices are fine! ha!

Duffster

03-16-2010, 11:26 PM

who do they think are going to be able to afford these things?

I think I have heard that every year for the last 30+ years. ;)

unkownfl

03-16-2010, 11:32 PM

35-50 grand isn't bad hell if you buy one you should be making twice that to begin with. Any HD truck should be making you money not you making money to pay for it.

360ci

03-16-2010, 11:49 PM

Fully loaded F350 lariat diesel will run over $70K loaded here in Canada. Estimate an average income of $100K per owner for each new truck, for a mid level to base model trim and a few options. A gas crew cab short box 4x4 XLT here runs almost $50K with a few options...before tax, delivery, licence, etc. So expect to pay close to $65K when it's all said and done. Tack on another $11K for the diesel that required Urea injection (NO THANKS) and I'd be half way to owning my Florida property at around $75K.

Hyundai cars that can be had in the US for just under $10K, are $14K here with the same options - or lack there of. Us Canadians can't win. Not to mention fuel runs about $4/gal for 87 octane and $4.45/gal for 91 octane for a US gallon of 3.78L. So, we get raped more ways than one.

unkownfl

03-17-2010, 12:08 AM

But you have socialized medicine thats what every Liberal **** here wants. I feel your pain. My family's from Nova Scotia talk about crazy prices. Its even more out there in the sticks. I guess 18% sales tax will get you medical coverage you have to wait in line for and everyone over consumes so you have to wait for heart surgery in a 6 month line.

PS I never had to pay MSRP for any Ford always got like 20% off MSRP with z plan thank god someone in the family dedicated there life to working for the man so I can get a discount.

Gravel Rat

03-17-2010, 01:20 AM

All Canadians walk like they have been riding a horse for a couple days that is from getting reamed good on the prices we have to pay.

Trucks are freaking dirt cheap in the USA. The Ford dealer in my area has 3 F-350 crew cab srw 4x4 diesel trucks they are 65-68-69,000 dollars. A F-150 4x4 is 48,000 that is for a loaded one they are even close to 52,000 for a F-150.

360ci

03-17-2010, 03:33 PM

Trucks are freaking dirt cheap in the USA. The Ford dealer in my area has 3 F-350 crew cab srw 4x4 diesel trucks they are 65-68-69,000 dollars. A F-150 4x4 is 48,000 that is for a loaded one they are even close to 52,000 for a F-150.

The Yanks don't know how good they have it!: F150 Platinum crew cab 4x4 starts at $56,799. Add the max trailer tow package ($1000) plus nav/dvd ($2600) and 13% tax (Ontario) and without any more options that alone is $68250 plus delivery and license by the way. For a LOADED F150. On the other end, a BASE rwd reg cab long box starts at $24,999, XLT base for $28,999...still steep for something with roll up windows and bench seat.

unkownfl

03-17-2010, 04:32 PM

Your minimum wage in Canada is what almost 10 dollars per hours compared to 5.15 in Georgia

AI Inc

03-17-2010, 04:50 PM

Hyundai cars that can be had in the US for just under $10K, are $14K here with the same options - or lack there of. Us Canadians can't win. Not to mention fuel runs about $4/gal for 87 octane and $4.45/gal for 91 octane for a US gallon of 3.78L. So, we get raped more ways than one.

But you have healthcare.

doubleedge

03-17-2010, 05:04 PM

But you have healthcare.

At those prices, is it worth it?

360ci

03-17-2010, 06:05 PM

Min wage will be $10.25 in July for standard hourly workers, restaurant servers and some other jobs get much less, as it's on a different pay scale, but a high min wage will make the economy suffer. Local store owners will fire staff, or cut hours in which case staff will try to find jobs elsewhere else to get more hours, just to pay the bills. Five years ago min wage here was $6.85. Keep in mind that servers get a MUCH LOWER minimum wage than standard hourly workers, even now. Most basic labour jobs pay $11-12 anyway for those desperate to work. All those jobs do is make you want to get a better job. Twenty years ago, they would've paid close to $20/hr for that kind of work, but manufacturing has changed a lot since then. The thing that hurts more is that companies that pay $11/hr now, won't increase staff wages to compensate for the min wage hike - of course that is to be expected as it lowers cost for the employer.

But you have healthcare.

Sometimes, it's worth paying for heathcare instead of waiting at a hospital. Things are ran very poorly, but at least things do get done, providing you don't die in the waiting room with the ambulance attendants shaking you to stay awake if it's severe enough. As much as it does work for what it is, it's a terrible system. A lot of hospitals don't stay within their budgets of course. Top hospital admins set their own salary at half a million or so a year, so you can see how that alone can get things out of hand. Public service is going out of control. There was talk not to long ago about some hospitals opening up to be privately funded.

To give you a QUICK example of what our system is like, each hospital is free to set it's own rules, public relations, staff, as long as they stay within their allotted budget. So, you get delivered to the ER by ambulance due to a pinched nerve that's causing a riot of other problems and the pain is excruciating. There are 4 people in the ER, sitting, waiting, nothing seems to be the matter with them as they had merely walked in. Eight hours later, two new ambulance attendants watch you while you sit in the portable bed and are trying to control you. Then, another patient walks into the ER, is signed in, treated at triage and asked to take a seat. THEN your name is called to enter a room and see a physician. Why the long wait? Besides being normal for all hospitals, this one in particular made it "policy" that they had to have a "minimum" of four patients in the ER at any given time. Even the on call doctor is looking for things to do but he can't see anyone in the ER as they have to have a minimum capacity. True story by the way. Yes, I have many more that are both better and worse than that one.

At those prices, is it worth it?

I'll have to say no. If we limited the immigrants that are allowed into the country each year, which would really (yes, I'm serious) make the roads safer, I wouldn't feel the need to spend so much for say a personal vehicle.

As a work vehicle though, we don't have a choice in the matter. I buy a truck for capability, and it should be able to function as a family daily driver should it be called for. I won't buy a top of the line truck, as it's not worth it as they have features that I'll never use. People shouldn't need cameras to help them make lane changes, if that's the case they shouldn't even have a license. A mid level F150 crew cab XLT would be the one I'd take, even with tax would touch the $36K mark here with current incentives, not to mention 13% sales tax, license and delivery. The only option missing on the F150 is a solid front front axle! F250, again I'd buy it for capability only but as far as safety goes, I'd be more concerned as a pedestrian these days than driving even a small car and getting into an accident.

AI Inc

03-17-2010, 06:07 PM

I think the gentleman meant is the healthcare worth it with those taxes.

unkownfl

03-17-2010, 06:11 PM

Yeah health care up there is a joke unless you have American insurance coverage from the military. :waving:

360ci

03-17-2010, 06:26 PM

I think the gentleman meant is the healthcare worth it with those taxes.

No. Ontario will soon combine GST and PST tax (federal and provincial) on everything we buy, not only consumable products which for the most part are tax exempt. Fuel, groceries, and all other consumable products, will be 8% higher come July 1st. Buying a used vehicle, you'll also have to pay two taxes on, just just one. New vehicles both taxes are standard. It's gonna be a mess.

albhb3

03-19-2010, 01:12 AM

cant we all agree were all F'ed in the end

360ci

03-19-2010, 03:53 PM

cant we all agree were all F'ed in the end

That's too easy. Especially since we all got F'ed in the beginning, we just find ways to argue about how to get F'ed in the end. Either way, we're all F'ed.

Duffster

03-19-2010, 04:55 PM

That's too easy. Especially since we all got F'ed in the beginning, we just find ways to argue about how to get F'ed in the end. Either way, we're all F'ed.

F that!

:laugh:

Jamie James

03-20-2010, 09:48 PM

I have had so many problems with my 6 litre ford,,,,,,, Im looking at GMC or Chev for now on...............................Final:canadaflag:

TXNSLighting

03-21-2010, 01:04 PM

I have had so many problems with my 6 litre ford,,,,,,, Im looking at GMC or Chev for now on...............................Final:canadaflag:

Thats your own fault for buying a 04...

OrganicsMaine

03-30-2010, 05:47 PM

Everybody that voted for the idiot we refer to as Mr. President raise your hand:hammerhead:

360ci

03-30-2010, 06:59 PM

Everybody that voted for the idiot we refer to as Mr. President raise your hand:hammerhead:

OBAMA? Sorry, I no longer hold part US citizenship. Canadian only.

TXNSLighting

03-30-2010, 09:29 PM

I vote impeachment...

360ci

03-30-2010, 09:52 PM

I vote impeachment...

Sure, why not, he's already put the country so far in debt what's it matter now?