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= Of course, Baba says the child Jagadeesh explains better than Mama and Baba. After reading Murli, doing dharan, he writes/prepares magazine. Because he has read scriptures. He is good in English. This is called as regard. Students should have regard for one another. Even Baba keeps regard. So- follow Father. .....

So- It says with very high probability that Baba is pointing to JAGADEESH Bhai. But unfortunately PBKs failed to understand this Murli point and believe Mr. Dixit is above Mama and Baba.

Murli point also says- do not become miyaa mittu. But see- how PBKs belive that Brahma Baba and Mama are smaller than PBKs!

Anyhow- it is drama.

Dear PBKs,

There is still time. So- please check once again.
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In fact, I was also confused by the Murli point. But later when I got other Murli points, I got satisfaction. Great thanks to Baba

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Om Shanti. If ShivBaba Himself wants to refine His statements He has a right to do that. But the above Murli point does not give BKs the right to make additions or cuttings or changes in Murlis. If anyone does that or supports that then it proves that he/she considers himself or herself to be greater than ShivBaba.

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arjun wrote:Om Shanti. The above member can throw away all the old Murlis if he thinks they are useless.

I had been to Madhuban and was told from a Bk brother. He told that he knows a BK brother whose lowkik age is around 60 yrs, and had seen Brahma Baba in Sakar. He was BK from that time itself.

He told me what he heard from that senior brother. It was - ShivBaba himself had told Brahma baba to burn old Murlis- saying- "Dear child- since it was necessary to tell you details about proces of creation, I have spoken all these. In future, other children will not be able to digest this. So burn these Murlis."

Baba says in the Murlis frequently that Indians have undergone degradation due to hearsay (Bharatwasiyon ne suni-sunayi baton se durgati payi hai). The above member is free to burn Murlis on hearsay.

Is this not a proof of the above Member thinking himself to be greater than ShivBaba? The other day he and his friend sachkhand were arguing that mbbhat does not mean that ShivBaba is a liar and that I am twisting his words. Now mbbhat thinks that Murlis can be thrown away, Murlis can be burnt. What more proof is needed to believe that the above member considers himself to be greater than ShivBaba?

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arjun wrote:Is this not a proof of the above Member thinking himself to be greater than ShivBaba?

Once again I need to say- baath ko nahin pakdo, bhaavnaa ko pakdo.

Just think- this is a forum where free discussions are to go. If you suppress such questions or thinkings, that means one is not ready to churn properly. Also- you know how Mr. Dixit questioned BKWSU. But why your response is like this here?

When PBKs belive Dada Lekhraj is Ravan, Hiranyakashyap, number one false Guru, etc, etc, - is this not a proof that they consider themselves higher than ShivBaba?

Dear Soul,

It is said- talk to the issue and not personal things. But it seems that when one cannot reply, then he will do so. It is up to you.

Also- Baba has given rights to judge- baba says- I speak. You judge whether I am right or not.

It is foolishness to comment- mbbhat believee himself greater than ShivBaba. In that case- I have no place here to discuss! Than I am neither Bk nor pbk. I am trying to find as well as explain the movements of ShivBaba according to my capacity.

And you are jumping to conclusion- both personally as well as about knowledge! All the best.

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= I am teaching to souls. (I) will take the souls with me. None else can say like this. No one has that authority/power. OF COURSE, LET (SOME) MAY CALL THEMSELVES AS BRAHMA OR BRAHMAKUMARS. LET THEM COPY SOME OF THE KNOWLEDGE FROM HERE. But it will not run. True is true…...

Baba is predicting that in future some may copy from BKWSU and try to take/wear titles of BKs on them. Is Baba pointing to PBKs as false BKs here?

mbbhat Bhai, Om Shanti and welcome back to the forum.
In the Murli that you have pointed out Baba has said that someone may call themselves Brahma or Brahmakumaris, but in case of Advance Party (AIVV), Baba Virendra Dev Dixit has nowhere claimed that he is Brahma. And even if PBKs claim, they say he is going to be revealed as Prajapita Brahma in the end and not as just Brahma. And we don't call ourselves Brahmakumaris (BKs); we call ourselves Prajapita Brahmakumar Kumaris (PBKs). And we call ourselves PBKs based on the directions given in the Murlis. So, I don't think the above Murli point applies either to Baba Virendra Dev Dixit or to the PBKs. I think you will have to search for the fake Brahma and fake BKs somewhere else.
OGS,
Arjun

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When did these Lakshmi-Narayan(Ram-Sita) rule? Neither in Kaliyug nor in Satyug(which is ruled by Radhe-Krishna). Heaven(Ramraj) is established(begins) in the Confluence Age. Others cannot think so deeply. People(PBKs) do not require so much elaboration. [Mu 16.11.71]

Do PBKs have the original Hindi words of this Murli point? Is it posted here in the forum? [I have got a Murli point which is similar to this. It is scanned and put here. read from the fourth line. The date is 14-11-76 which is almost 5 years gap, hence most probably should be the same one what PBKs address.

Now- the Murli point says that the LN kingdom is established in Confluence Age. It is not said that they(LN) ruled in Confluence Age. I do not know how PBKs say- LN ruled in Confluence Age. So- it would be better if PBKs post a scanned copy here of what they claim.

SM 14-11-76(1)= When the Kingdom of LN was established? (it is) neither in Kaliyug, nor in Satyug. The establishment of heaven occurs in Confluence Age itself/only. The intellect of others do not go so far. People do not know so much details.