(skip to 0:18)this has got to be fake considering WWE (and in this case, any company's) stance on what get released by their employees... but if this is somehow real, this Brad Maddox guy gets mad props

Thumbs up show all the way. Good storytelling. Lots of good wrestling up and down the show with clean finishes and the main event was solid with the finish meant to build the issues between Hogan, Ray and Aries, so you can give them a pass on the DQ. Hulk Hogan and Brooke Hogan were way better tonight than any other time I can remember them on Impact. You can see they are slowly building lots of possible/eventual reveals and the pacing was great, far superior to Raw of late. If you haven't been watching Impact, now is a great time to start.

of course I couldnt watch tonight (sick baby) but from the recap it does sound muy buen

• If this year ends without John Cena winning a championship, it will mark the first calendar year since 2003 that Cena hasn't held a championship.

• If CM Punk remains WWE Champion through December 31st, he will become the first man to hold the title for a full calendar year since Hulk Hogan. (Hogan's first WWE Championship reign, which lasted from 1984 to 1988, saw him hold the title through all of 1985, 1986, and 1987.)

Wow

shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

Wow indeed. They may not exactly be firing on all cylinders with their booking and angles, but it's commendable that they've avoided having Cena dominating the championship scene (a few title shots is fine, he is still a top draw for them after all) and gone old school with Punk's reign, in an era where short, multiple reigns have become commonplace.

antonio cesaro continues to impress me. i love his creative ways of getting his uppercut into the match plus he's a great performer all-around. if you dont watch wwe regularly, you need to watch this guy

WWE will be releasing another Bret Hart DVD next year. The current title is Bret “Hit Man” Hart: The Dungeon Collection and the set is expected out in March 2013.

Speaking of Hart, he’s been working on a sequel to his critically acclaimed autobiography, My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling. Topics addressed will be his life since his last book and reconciling with WWE.

I'll be picking up both once they've available. His last book was a great read, a great insight into the business.

Andrew wrote:I keep up with the results and news, but it's difficult to sit down and watch the shows.

Add that with the constant negativity and some internet stuff, it's hard to even watch a PPV. I was I can be like that botchamania guy and can just enjoy stuff by liking someone and hating whoever he is feuding with.

shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

I was watching "Impact" this week, and it had Aces & Eights partying with hot girls. D-Von was receiving a lapdance, the A & 8 leader stuck money down a girl's top, and it showed one girl giving the other a lapdance (HLA).

Later that night, both Velvet Sky and Brooke Hogan came down to the ring, showing a lot of cleavage (thank you!).

It got me thinking. All I ever read about on this site is people bitching and moaning about wanting the "Attitude Era" back. Apparently, people don't watch WWE now, because it is PG. Linda McMahon's Senate campaign has made sure "Attitude" won't be back in WWE for a long time.

TNA should go for rauch, controversy, and violence. Use blood constantly on PPV, make the Knockouts Division strong by having Bra-&-Panties matches and Knockouts Hardcore Matches. ODB should get the KO title, and act like a female "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.

Use the cage more, use tables often. I would use this Bully Ray-Hogan tension as the start of things. Bully should become champion, and be a defiant rebel, who does things his own way, while Hogan tries to pull him back into line.

There should be storylines which are very controversial, and haven't been done since the "Attitude Era", or ECW. Have the "Attitude Era" return, and its new home is TNA. TNA should try to beat WWE at its own game.

I think that this is the best way to compete with WWE, who are appealing to PG TV. TNA should be more R-rated TV, and give the wrestling fans things that WWE won't anymore.

Unless Dixie Carter is running for the Senate, there is no reason for TNA to not go down this path. At least they may capture the disillusioned WWE fans, who won't watch WWE anymore, but did when "Attitude" was alive.

1. TNA needs cursing - you must've missed 2010 and 2011 TNA. You were probably taking a piss when Angle went on a curse fiesta on Hogan and threatened he'd call up Vince "right now". Or maybe you should watch more carefully during Pay-Per-Views when either Roode or Aries would squirt out the occasional "fuck" or "shit" on TV. Not to mention that Scott Steiner was on their roster. End of story.

2. They need more beer-drinking - if you mean literally, say hello to James Storm. Since this dude split with Bobby Roode, beer bottles have been flying around the Impact Barn Zone. If you mean attitude wise, again, watch James Storm. He's your beer drinker type. Or Bully Ray or Kid Kash. When Stone Cold was around he was one of the few "beer drinker" type badasses. That's how it's supposed to be. Otherwise it's overkill.

3. Bra and Panties matches - they don't have those but they really don't need them. Why? It's not 1998, son! The Internet is FULL of porn. All kinds. Naked chicks are literally 3-4 clicks away. There's nothing controversial about showing a woman in her bikini these days. It would be if she was naked with a dildo up her ass and none of it was censored.

4. Controversial Storylines - All I'll say is this: AJ Styles was accused of banging Dixie Carter but they were protecting a pregnan crack whore who tried to prove that AJ is the father of her crack baby.

Not enough?

Jeff Jarrett and Karen Angle used Kurt Angle's kids as leverage in a storyline. Not too bad, except that Karen Angle is Kurt's ex-wife and them kids you saw were Kurt's ACTUAL children and that was probably the situation in real life - Kurt not seeing them all the time and Jeff being their new 'daddy'.

Fact is, TNA's been controversial and edgy and whatnot for 3 years now. If not more. You had tons of blood with Flair and Abyss around, you have Attitude with Aries, Bully, Storm, Roode and even Daniels. You have sexy, dirty stuff with the women now and then. You have controversial storylines.

In the end, it's done what? Absolutely nothing. And no, not because people are "over" the Attitude Era. They're not. It's because the landscape of modern Television has changed. Back in the 90's you didn't have a lot of cursing, blood and sex on TV. Wrestling did and it was different. THAT'S why it was successful. Not because it was blood and boobs, but because blood and boobs were DIFFERENT.

Showing blood and boobs now will do nothing. I can switch over to Breaking Bad and see all the blood and gore I want. If I'm not satisfied I can watch the Walking Dead and damn near puke with a fucking smile on my face. If I want boobs I can find porn on the Internet or just switch to the Disney channel, plenty of whores there. Controversy? One of the aforementioned shows should do.

TNA is in a slump not because they're not doing enough "edgy" stuff, but because the scale of their content does not allow them to increase the edginess. Let's fucking face it, no one likes kid shit, PG crap and basically WWE's bullshit. People want edgy, they want new, they want unique and they want shocking. Look at the top shows on TV and you'll know what I mean. Add to that a good dialogue, stories, production and you got yourself a hit TV show in 2012.

Wrestling can't do that. At the end of the day it's a TV show with its own boundaries. If writers had people killed on TV it wouldn't make sense. If they had SUPER edgy storylines it wouldn't make sense because of wrestling's inherent cheesiness. If they had boobs it wouldn't work.

Essentially, wrestling is one-upped in those departments by modern Television and that's a fact. Until wrestling finds a way to produce content that comes close or AT LEAST matches the different qualities of the top shows on TV, both WWE and TNA can forget about getting out of the respectives slumps they are in. People want good Television, regardless of genre. Wrestling is not providing it, thus wrestling is dying.

I see wrestling as this delusional macho dude who walks around pointing at the tattoo on his triceps, saying "fuck" a lot and acting like a rebel. What this fella doesn't realize is that THIS behavior was edgy and rebellious in the 90's and before that. Elvis Presley shaking his hips in the 50's was considered dirty to the point where Ed Sullivan would shoot him only fromt he waist up. What wrestling's trying to do is shake its hips in 2012, think it's rebellious and sexual, while every other musician out there is performing half naked, licking marmallade off some chick's firm tits while they're both on fire.

The other thing is that 'attitude' for the sake of 'attitude' is just pointless. The whole "Use blood constantly on PPV" thing is completely moronic, because it ceases to mean anything.

TNA need to get their shit together production-wise. There was an out-of-sync backstage segment a while back, Angle's entrance cut off Chavo this week, and there were a couple of other instances of things playing when they shouldn't the week before. I wish they'd stop the Hardy's Internal Monologue spots, too; they're just absurd.

LMFAO. Look at all these grown ass men discussing WWE. WWE is for little kids who are going to grow up to be bitch niggas. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

jk though. Ive heard they are making the programming edgier again. I havent watched it in a long time but may tune in if it isnt silly as fuck anymore. Perhaps superstars who are good actors would also help. I dont really feel like they know how to sell emotions very well.

Triple H was a wonderful asshole villian. Mick Foley was an amazing "genuine good guy". Stone cold was the perfect unpredictable angry guy and so on

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my favorite was the double suplex onto the ladder by ryback, except that one dude oversold it but it was still nice. the two-man superplex off the top was something you don't see very often. don't recall if i've ever seen that before

Qballer wrote:antonio cesaro continues to impress me. i love his creative ways of getting his uppercut into the match plus he's a great performer all-around. if you dont watch wwe regularly, you need to watch this guy

koberulz wrote:Or you could just get the KoW ROH DVD and not have to put up with the other shit WWE insists on serving up.

Those belts have been treated a little better lately, though they're still largely overlooked. I think acknowledging him as the NXT Champion would be more about establishing his backstory though, while giving some more attention to their developmental system on the major shows.

I've heard the promo between Rock and Punk was awesome, so I'm going to catch RAW when it airs here tonight. With The Rock pretty much being a full-time performer up until Wrestlemania, it's piqued my interest.

I went on and checked that segment. Good piece of promo from both guys. Rock was typical Rock, and Punk just killed it. Nicely done. I still hope though, that Punk retains at the Rumble and have Rock face him again at WrestleMania after Rock goes on and work on a regular schedule for three months.

I think you have to have Rock go over at the Rumble then "pass the torch" at Wrestlemania. Since he's going to be full-time through Wrestlemania, it's not going to devalue the belt. Plus, it's The Rock; it's not like putting the title on David Arquette.