I got of that from wikipedia but it does not mention how the different races of aboriginies came to settle different parts of Australia - as you
would expect since it isnt PC to point out other cultures' faults. That was something I heard talked about on ABC radio a few decades ago. I have one
of those memories.

That stuff sounds interesting, I live in a fairly dry part, I wonder if it would grow here? I bet it tastes like dried wombat puke or soemthing though
(not that I would know).

I think its quite a common plant in the desert, but only a certain strain is any good.. Supposedly that strain is kept secret by the elders.. lol

I agree with you that the aboriginals were no angels. They're often thought of as living in a kind of Eden before white man arrived, however there was
infighting, wars and no doubt rape and murder. Only thing they didn't have was small pox, measles, alcohol etc... But i'd swap constant state of war
for some booze... dunno about the small pox though.
When we think about the past injustices, we should remember that at the time, the default rule applied - might was right. Sure.. we can look back in
hind sight and see that bad things happened.. however if the white man never came to aust, the natives still would have had their wars and
conflict.

Still, I do feel sorry for their plight.. but every culture and race has suffered injustice in the last 500 years. Jews? check.. Chinese? check (opium
wars? cultural revolution?), Blacks? Check(apartheid, slavery), English? check (reformation, 100 years war, ww1, ww2).......
Everyone has been hurt in the past..

EDIT:
I think you're right about how the tribes became distributed as they did.. wtf else would people choose to live in the middle of the desert unless
they were forced to by a powerful invader?

A balanced view is all that I ask. S**t happens, it is important that we do what we can to help them move on and live a fulfilling life. Of course
what we are doing now will probably be seen as wrong in 50 years, just like stealing thier children was seen as the right thing to do 50 years ago.
However I am encouraged, most people claiming Aboriginal identity I have come across in the past few years seem to be integrating in to modern
Australia.

Breaks my heart reading this thread. Racists who don't even know they are racists. Bigoted dim wits who think they are being politically correct.
Slim excuses which remember only half of history.

For the record this land was occupied by tribes for 40,000 years before white man arrived to live in this country. Those settlers did not adopt the
laws and customs of the owners of this land. They did not try to assimilate with the existing culture. They declared
Terra Nullius which means"Land belonging to no-one" and systematically killed the inhabitants
and stole their land.

The misguided lies about the stolen generation, and the ongoing racist intervention in the Northern Territory are very much history written by the
winner. The truth is these measures were taken to "educate the savages". Even today, the subjects of these interventions are virtual prisoners,
unable to spend their "government vouchers" is any thing but state approved shops, which over charge and under provide, trapping more generations in
poverty.

And the land that they legally own (There has been no treaty in this country - we are all on stolen land) makes big companies like Woodside, and BP
Billions of dollars.

Even now there is a plan to destroy sacred rock art on the Burrup, which is up to 20,000 years old, in order to build the worlds largest gas hub.
Destroy sacred aboriginal sites which are older than the last ice age and which depict animals long extinct here? How can they get away with it?
Because the locals were thrown off their land, raped, beaten killed or subjugated by the white fella.

I would urge readers from all around the world to discover what is really going on here. It is a national disgrace.

So drop the crap about people coming here and assimilating. Drop the crap about aboriginal people blending in to your young society. Perhaps they want
to be true to their culture and tradition? A culture and tradition white Australia has tried to destroy from day one!

So drop the crap about people coming here and assimilating. Drop the crap about aboriginal people blending in to your young society. Perhaps
they want to be true to their culture and tradition? A culture and tradition white Australia has tried to destroy from day one!

True to their culture? Raping children in their designated communities is their culture? seriously?

There is more negative news coming out of designated aboriginal communities than positive, and blaming the "white-man" is just looking for a
scapegoat and not admitting the faults that aboriginal culture has from within.

There is nothing more "white-man" can do towards the aboriginal people.....if there is short of leaving australia which is unrealistic, please
explain?

Always was, always will be Aboriginal land!!!!

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. The reality is slightly different.

Australia is what it is now...yes, many have migrated here and "ASSIMILATED' into Australian society from many various background, such a Danny
Nalliah from Sri Lanka.

"We are one and we are many, and from all the lands on earth we come....." as the song goes....

it doesnt say, "we are one, and we are many, and we'll change your country into our own when we come...."

Thats what the arguement is about.....we dont care what religion or race you are, as long as you "fit in" into a Modern Australian Society

As much as i hate what our ancestors did to the indigenous population of this country i dont think there is any way our current population could ever
correct it or make up for it in any meaningful way.

So its really now up to us all to work at getting along without stepping on each others toes.

Again as much as i hate what our ancestors did in the past its also past emigration of other cultures and races that have made this country great and
diverse and interesting to be a part of.

I think we have a lot to learn from the indigenous population and need to show them a lot more respect.
But i think the indigenous population also need to move on from the past accept the current situation and try to benefit from it while keeping their
culture alive.

Religion is fine as long as its not seeking to destroy other religions or established cultures.
I think any extremists of any religion calling for the destruction of any culture or society should be very quickly remove from Australia as
extremism is no better than cancer and needs to be excised.

As far as emigration is concerned....we have a crapload of land that no one not even the indigenous population use so why not let them in and start
building cities further inland?
Apart from the what happened to the indigenous population emigration has been nothing but a good thing for this country.

Originally posted by nothingwrong
They declared Terra Nullius which means"Land belonging to no-one" and systematically killed
the inhabitants and stole their land.

There was no systematic killing of Aborigines in the whole of Australia. Yes massacres did occur but that was far from a systematic genocide.

Originally posted by nothingwrong
A culture and tradition white Australia has tried to destroy from day one!

I havent seen anyone trying to destroy Aboriginal culture for at least 40 years or more. What about land rights? Mabo? The Hindmarsh bridge? Kakadu?
Employing thousands of aboriginies in the parks and wildlife industry?ATSIC? National Sorry Day? AbStudy? Aboriginal cultural centers, just last
weekend I saw aboriginal rock art that had been caged in, and was accesible by a boardwalk to PRESERVE it. It was whites who voted to give aboriginies
the vote.

In many instances quite the opposite is true, they have gone too far in trying to preserve the fragmented pieces of aboriginal culture. The aboriginal
group who have been given oversight of the Barmah State Forest are the wrong mob, they came from further north, I heard this from someone who was
there! Stop living in the past, it is 2013 now. The Koori religion has been hijacked by new-agers and they emphasizing their agenda in it. Most people
who identify themsleves as aboriginies have not been taught thier culture by thier elders but by white anthropologists. In case you haven't heard
before, you cant change the past but you can change the future.

Originally posted by nothingwrong
Always was, always will be Aboriginal land!!!!

It was, but most of isnt now, get over it, this country is a great place to live and you can have a very good and prosperous life here if you want to,
not just you but anyone who adopts it as their country. You can even live in the traditional way with the added benefit of free modern health care if
you want.

I assume you're calling me a racist. Nice. Since when was being 'politically correct' something we should be worried about on this forum?

The plight of the Aboriginals has little to do with the issues at hand. By your reasoning, because this country was founded on injustice, the people
of this nation are never allowed to criticize the influx of a minority group which seeks to subvert the current laws and democratic system?

If anything, the plight of the aboriginals - their failure to fend of a hostile culture which led to the destruction of their culture and way of life
show us what can happen should we fail to fend of a hostile culture.
I'd love to see the Aboriginals get any native title rights under sharia.

According to your rational... Americans's can never object to being enslaved because they were once the enslavers ?
lol.

Its clear that the Australians who have posted here are aware of the history of aboriginals and that it was horrible - But guess what? Horrible things
happen.

You're the only person who thinks they are 'politically correct' on this thread. But you are just ignorant.

Not once has any person said anything here that could be considered racist or bigotry.

just in reply, the "theory" of a "european" pre maori race has been debunked, and is only kept alive by fringe elements.

maori/polynesians arrived via migratory waves. prior to "maori" proper NZ was inhabited by mori ori, best understood as protomaori, who were most
certainly (due to being pacifist) beaten, farmed and eaten (in a nut shell) (mitochondrial DNA suggest origins to aboriginals in Hainan and Taiwan.
(not chineese)

NZ experienced the Taupo eruption which pretty much incinerated any people prior to 26,500 years ago, since then there are archeological pieces of
interest, but nothing that points to an occupation or settlement post Taupo.

as to the OP

Australia is in a precarious position, not only must it resist indonesia to its immediate north with 300 million muslims, it must also resist
sinocization.

i welcom this mans party, it sounds realistic, and inclusive, he sets the example, if you with to be here, you must assimilate. great stuff.

I wasn't expecting this level of racism and bullcrap when I inocently entered this thread, initially intrigued simply by the mention of my
motherland. Never have I seen such uncivilised bickering by my countrymen. Well, thats a lie. I'm in a sea of homophobia and racism. And it reeks of
piss.

I put my ear to the ground not a moment ago and Australia spoke to me. It said "I do not believe in Christ, Muhammed, Budda or Hawkman. I don't
believe in treating anyone differently based on microscopic genetic differences that express themselves superficially on your skin. I won't stop you
marrying who you want. Please stop digging out so much coal, I'm sure it's not healthy for you either"

This might be slightly off topic but with all tha talk about the first australians,here's a question.
Does or has anyone seen NITV , it's deadly

That is a new tv station over here, National Indigenous TV.
It was introduced by the united nations , i think it was Ban ki Moon ( lol probably spelt that wrong)
anyway the head of the UN gave a brief introduction which was sort of strange and new.
1%

Who owned england? Who owned Europe? Invasion has happened to all people, aboriginals were just the latest to experience it. The world belongs to
everyone who is born upon it. The universe belongs to all beings. People were treated wrongly, people still are.. of many races. That is no good, but
who is anyone to say 'you have no right to a place on this earth'

Originally posted by twisted-timothy
I put my ear to the ground not a moment ago and Australia spoke to me. It said "I do not believe in Christ, Muhammed, Budda or Hawkman. I don't
believe in treating anyone differently based on microscopic genetic differences that express themselves superficially on your skin. I won't stop you
marrying who you want. Please stop digging out so much coal, I'm sure it's not healthy for you either"

Seriously? You heard the ground say this to you? Cause I'm getting conflicting messages then... maybe all the psychiatiric drugs getting into the eco
system has had some bad effect on it.

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