you think anyone gives kareem or magic more or less cred for their rings in LA

its about total rings as a legend. as long as you got a fmvp and a season mvp.

that's a really specific criteria in order for it to be all about it.....
MJ and Kobe should be crying in their sleep then, they must have gotten more help than anybody for their rings because being lead dog is irrelevant and they would have won with their team anyways.