Equal Rights? Really I'm a divorce female without kids. I can't get hardly any federal aide for school because I don't qualify as I make too much working a pt retail job & becuz I don't have kids. I don't get any extra tax breaks, and I make too much for an debt card as a single & forget about help with housing.So tell me again about how gays are the ONLY lifestyles discrimated against in this country?

Equal Rights? Really I'm a divorce female without kids. I can't get hardly any federal aide for school because I don't qualify as I make too much working a pt retail job & becuz I don't have kids. I don't get any extra tax breaks, and I make too much for an debt card as a single & forget about help with housing.So tell me again about how gays are the ONLY lifestyles discrimated against in this country?

Also, your "plight" (cough) has nothing to do with civil rights for a segment of our population.

And "I can't get hardly..."? I don't think you're ready for college if you haven't yet mastered the English language.

Equal Rights? Really I'm a divorce female without kids. I can't get hardly any federal aide for school because I don't qualify as I make too much working a pt retail job & becuz I don't have kids. I don't get any extra tax breaks, and I make too much for an debt card as a single & forget about help with housing.So tell me again about how gays are the ONLY lifestyles discrimated against in this country?

I don't understand what you are saying. How are you being discriminated against? If a divorced male who made over a certain threshhold wanted to go to school, he wouldn't get aid either.

<quoted text>Also, your "plight" (cough) has nothing to do with civil rights for a segment of our population.And "I can't get hardly..."? I don't think you're ready for college if you haven't yet mastered the English language.

Heh - I almost said something about working on her english and writing schools before attempting college, but I took it out. But I guess now I am adding it.

Gee, I am in the same boat you are. Except I am a male. But I am not looking for a free handout, meal ticket and education.Why do you thing you deserve any of that?

rings90 wrote:

Equal Rights? Really I'm a divorce female without kids. I can't get hardly any federal aide for school because I don't qualify as I make too much working a pt retail job & becuz I don't have kids. I don't get any extra tax breaks, and I make too much for an debt card as a single & forget about help with housing.So tell me again about how gays are the ONLY lifestyles discrimated against in this country?

Her point is, if you have a job and make an effort, you don't qualify for Jack. If you don't work and pump out kids, you get free food, free housing, free education, it's like you're rewarded for being a lazy@ss. The way the system is set up, you're encouraged NOT to get a job and try to better yourself. People who have jobs and kids, and even those without kids, are struggling just as much to try to squeak by, yet no help is available for them. Instead the focus is on gay marriage and amnesty and drivers licenses for illegals and giving them a free education. Hello? Priorities.

In most states, you can fire someone simply for being gay, regardless of how they do their job.

In most states, you can be fired for no reason at all. If your boss really wants you gone, and NEEDS a valid reason, he'll find one. Suppose in your Utopia a law is passed that won't allow a gay man to be fired for being gay. Fine, he'll be fired for using the last of the creamer in the breakroom. There are ways around everything. And gay people are not getting fired, nor evicted, simply for being gay. I don't know where you're hearing this from, but it's not happening.

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

You're wrong about gay people being denied visitation in the hospital. WRong.

I have visited many people in the hospital. A few I wasn't even related to. I have never been asked at the sign in desk if I was gay. How would they even know? And I know of NO instance where someone walked into a hospital wanting to visit someone, said they were gay, and were denied access. Again, this is something that's not happening. Might want to get your news from a more valid resource.

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

And as I said, gay peopl are denied the right to marry the person theY LOVE. You don't get to define who they should marry.

*I* don't decide, unfortunately, but the government does, and always has. A man is not allowed to marry his sister, no matter how much he loves her. A man is not allowed to marry his cat, or car, or horse, or a pair of sisters. I suppose you believe all rules on marriage should be tossed out the window and anyone can marry whatever, whoever, or how many of ever they want?

This is why this issue isn't going away anytime soon. I don't want to waste my time because I know you'll never understand the other side, but you should acknowledge that look, people have different beliefs than you. And it does no good to belittle them because of it. Your views are no more superior than mine.

And I disagree that if gay marriage is ever recognized in all 50 states, the gays will shut up and stop their parades. They will never shut up, no matter what they get, they will always want something more.

And if you were such an advocate of unequal treatment against a group of people, how come I haven't heard you say anything about the IRS unfairly targeting conservative groups? This is the same agency that will be in charge of enforcing Obamacare. Should we be concerned?

Her point is, if you have a job and make an effort, you don't qualify for Jack. If you don't work and pump out kids, you get free food, free housing, free education, it's like you're rewarded for being a lazy@ss. The way the system is set up, you're encouraged NOT to get a job and try to better yourself. People who have jobs and kids, and even those without kids, are struggling just as much to try to squeak by, yet no help is available for them. Instead the focus is on gay marriage and amnesty and drivers licenses for illegals and giving them a free education. Hello? Priorities.

Thank You that is EXACTLY my point.

When your told by a friend who is a CPA that you would get a bigger refund if you could cut your hours at work, there's something very WRONG with the system.

Apologies for my awful English, I was trying to get it posted before I got called into a meeting.

I don't think I'm ENTITLED for ANYTHING. I have worked very hard, have 13 years of being employed by some of the areas media businesses. Unfortunately it seems employers want people to have more of an educational background than I have.

Its hard to pay for food gas insurance and college courses on less than $10 per hour. And due to the divorce my credit score is too low to get a loan in this economic climate.

Equal Rights? Really I'm a divorce female without kids. I can't get hardly any federal aide for school because I don't qualify as I make too much working a pt retail job & becuz I don't have kids. I don't get any extra tax breaks, and I make too much for an debt card as a single & forget about help with housing.So tell me again about how gays are the ONLY lifestyles discrimated against in this country?

rings90 wrote:

<quoted text>Thank You that is EXACTLY my point.When your told by a friend who is a CPA that you would get a bigger refund if you could cut your hours at work, there's something very WRONG with the system.Apologies for my awful English, I was trying to get it posted before I got called into a meeting.I don't think I'm ENTITLED for ANYTHING. I have worked very hard, have 13 years of being employed by some of the areas media businesses. Unfortunately it seems employers want people to have more of an educational background than I have.Its hard to pay for food gas insurance and college courses on less than $10 per hour. And due to the divorce my credit score is too low to get a loan in this economicclimate.

So just to make sure I'm following along at home and not getting lost, since you feel that you are discriminated against because of your socio-economic situation, and that people who work less that you are able to get handouts from the government whereas you are not, that means that gays, many of whom could easily fall into the same socio-economic demographic as you(single, no kids, works part time) and have the same opinions about it that you do, should not complain about being denied rights that you currently have. Does that about sum it up? Until we fix the problem that affects you personally, F everyone else's problems?

Where you gonna go next? To a cancer forum and tell them to stop bitching about THEIR too cause YOU can't get aid?

I have visited many people in the hospital. A few I wasn't even related to. I have never been asked at the sign in desk if I was gay. How would they even know? And I know of NO instance where someone walked into a hospital wanting to visit someone, said they were gay, and were denied access. Again, this is something that's not happening. Might want to get your news from a more valid resource.

many hospitals had rules restricting visitation to JUST family. But that's changing. Thank President Obama.

LW2: I know you ladies got all sorts of "rules" that must be followed, but I don't see any problem with someone getting invited to the bachelorette party and not the wedding. I've BEEN to a bachelor party for a dude I barely knew. Wasn't invited to the wedding. Didn't care. Never occurred to me. I had a dude at MY bachelor party. I don't remember his name or who at the party he was friends with. To my way of thinking, a bachelor(ette) party is a night for good clean debauchery. Booze. Strip club. Everyone in attendance paying their own way. So unless it was someone I despised, I see no problem with a few extras just along for the good time. I'm sure the maid of honor can spring for one extra penis straw for a non-wedding guest.

Pell grants are availiable to anyone,More grants are availiable to women than menreducing your hours now for wages you have already earned will only lead to a lesser refund next year.Sorry 90, not buying it. Yeah, there are handout to those who do not deserve it, but thinking yourself deserving of the same is improper. Those people will never take advantage of what they were given anyway, and will always be a drain until the spigot is shut off.

Media business? before I jump right into the gutter with that one, could you elaborate?

rings90 wrote:

<quoted text>Thank You that is EXACTLY my point.When your told by a friend who is a CPA that you would get a bigger refund if you could cut your hours at work, there's something very WRONG with the system.Apologies for my awful English, I was trying to get it posted before I got called into a meeting.I don't think I'm ENTITLED for ANYTHING. I have worked very hard, have 13 years of being employed by some of the areas media businesses. Unfortunately it seems employers want people to have more of an educational background than I have.Its hard to pay for food gas insurance and college courses on less than $10 per hour. And due to the divorce my credit score is too low to get a loan in this economicclimate.

Try this analogy.I was born and remain a Jew, but I am not very Jewish.

If someone asks or the subject comes up, I readily acknowledge my heritage but I don't run around saying Oy Vey or dissuading people from eating cheeseburgers because it mixes meat and dairy. My husbands family has always known my background, but we don't talk about it and I don't light Sabbath candles when we go to visit.

It is whom I am but I have no desire to flaunt my Jewishness, although I have been known to foist homemade matzo balls on people.

It is much the same, Red. I have no idea if my MIL is comfortable or unconfortable with my heritage. The subject does not come up.As far as I am concnerned, same with being Gay.

many hospitals had rules restricting visitation to JUST family. But that's changing.

Personally, I have never been aware of any such hospital. Ever.

You ready to thank Obama for our economy, taxes, and deficit? And lashing out at the GOP for trying to get to the bottom of the Benghazi fiasco which left four Americans dead?

(And just to keep things in perspective, the Boston bombings killed THREE people. That's all over the news. FOUR were killed in Benghazi and you're hard-pressed to hear anything about it. What liberal media?)

I feel for those of us who want to do better & have the desire to do so it seems harder for us to get any aid compared to some others. In don't care what your bedroom preferences are I personally think white straight males have way less opportunity today than in years past due to affirmative action.

I'm not a supporter of gays using the word marriage due to my religious beliefs. I do however have NO problem with civil ceremonies the couples being granted tax benefits, and the same rights a heterosexual spousal couple has in times of illness and if they choose to have children.

The media businesses I worked for were the the 2 top radio companies in this area for a total of 3 years and for the local CBS TV station for 10. The CBS station was owned & ran by CBS inc. I was working in the Media Library, Master Control, Promotions Marketing departments at the station. The CBS station stole me away from the radio stations to be the Promotional Coordinator. Yes part of my job was calling people & telling them won TV's & Concert tickets.

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