1/29 So basically, we can bomb the shit out of whoever we like, whenever
we like, about whatever stupid reason we make up, and everybody just
has to like it? America RULES!
\_ "Because we have nuclear weapons". -D. Leary
\_ "We've got the bomb!"
\_ "Somebody set up us the bomb!" -0wing
\_ "We get signal" -- operator
\_ hey, we live in the U.S., a democracy. the man making the calls
was elected (fairly or not), and there's not anything you can do
about it except hope he gets beaten in November.
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1/29 Ideal ingredients for the perfect Manhattan?
\_ "what have I done to deserve this flat, flavourless manhattan?"
\_ Good bourbon for starters. Jack Daniel's and Jim Beam are not good.
see webtender: http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/1641
\_ Obviously no Jack or Jim. I had one last night with Johnny
Walker black that turned out good, and I'd imagine Maker's
Mark would taste great as well. Not sure if there's much
difference between varieties of bitters or vermouth, though,
which is sort of why I asked. Any other whiskey drinkers
on the motd? --op
\_ Johnny Walker is Scotch, which is quite different from bourbon.
My Fav. Bourbons are Wild Turkey 101, Booker's, Knob Creek
and Maker's Mark. MM is mildest, and KC is most full-bodied.
\_ Basil Hayden's. Very tasty. Slight cherry nose. Very
smooth. Though I wouldn't mix it.
\_ I'm a big fan of Maker's Mark or Jameson, depending on my
mood.
\_ Some of the more expensive Wild Turkeys are pretty good
(rare breed and kentucky spirit), they're probably between
MM and KC in body.
\_ I believe Manhattan's were originally made with rye whiskey,
but bourbon (which is lighter-bodied) is now the standard.
Lots of choices, do a google group search for various brands.
\_ Yah. Manhatten is the whiskey (of all varieties) answer to the
martini.

1/29 The Beneficiaries of Saddam's Oil Vouchers: The List of 270
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA16004
\_ Look Shirac is not on that list. I wonder if the Washington Times
will print a retraction and apology.
\_ Look the article does not state Chirac was a beneficiary.
\_ Where? I looked under France and he's not there. Also,
one of the end notes suggests that the list may not
all be deals that were carried out, but that were
proposed. Russia appears to be the big beneficiary.
\_ It's just moony propoganda. None of it is true.

1/27 Does anyone have any recommendations for a reliable and not too
expensive small claims process server who'll serve someone living
in san jose? Thanks.
\_ Check out the constable. Most counties have them, and they
will serve papers for a small fee.
\_ Usually the sheriff will do this for next to nothing and sometimes
the judge will let you get that from the defendant too.

1/26 Poll, who is the ugliest leader (former or now):
Sadam Hussein:
Noriega: .
\_ You know you've got problems when your nickname is "pineapple"
Bush: .
Golda Meir: .
\_ you are not going to sleep with any of them. why care?
\_ Once you put Noriega on a list like this only the psychotic hateful
people will mark anyone else. A real poll would be "ugliest
leader other than Noriega".
\_ Why is he so bad? What about Gorbachev? Kim Jong Il?
\_ Deng Xiaoping is arguably one of the ugliest leader in the 20th
century, but nevertheless he is highly regarded. You can't judge
a book by its cover.

1/27 Al Franken is a violent supporter of free speech but only if you
agree with him. http://nypost.com/news/nationalnews/16692.htm
\_ Dude, he body-slammed a Lyndon Larouche supporter. Even Mother
Teresa could understand that urge.
\_ "I'm neutral in this race but I'm for freedom of speech, which
means people should be able to assemble and speak without being
shouted down." He's not neutral (big fat liar), but I agree with
his sentiment. But I don't agree with assault and battery.
\_ He body-slammed a Lyndon Larouche supporter. Now I understand
that, in general, assault and battery is a bad thing, and Al
should certainly do his time/fine for it, but, hey, let's
not pretend that we all haven't been tempted from time to
time to take down a rowdy ditto-head, an aggro deaniac, or
a belligerent Fox News-caster.

1/27 My brother Brad is a painter, and he has a show called `Reality Check'
opening tonight from 5-7 (Tuesday) at the Diego Rivera Gallery in the
San Francisco Art Institute located at 800 Chestnut Street. Check it
out. The show runs through January 31. -dans
\_ My brother Edward is a psychopath, and he is in prison for murder
and he is allowed to have visitors (on the other side of this huge
piece of plastic material and only with armed guards present)
every other Sunday between 1:00 and 1:30. Go visit him! He's in
for 4 life sentences.
\_ I had some faith in humanity this morning when I woke up,
you just made it go away, thank you.
\_ Thank you! Thank you! The next show is tomorrow morning and
every morning until the curtains close!
\_ I just bought a 3200 sq feet room in LA, how much does he charge
to paint the house? Thanks.
\_ How many people live there?

1/26 Anybody have stone tiles in your backyard? I'm thinking of putting
them in. There's cement covering most of the backyard already around
the pool. Would contractors remove the existing cement before
putting in tiles? How was your put in? Thin layer of cement and
then the tile? I'm thinking maybe they can put the tile over the
existing cement, however, some parts have cracks and the surface is
a bit uneven. Thanks.
\_ Home owners are evil. When the market drops you'll be begging
your landlord to take you back! Villain!

1/23 I'm trying to track down and/or minimize the number of fax calls
to my number. I've used Selective Call Blocking and have blocked
about 8 numbers so far and it worked for a few months but lately
I've been getting calls from Private Callers. What are some other
options I have? Is Call Trace useful when you don't know who is
calling you? Thanks.
\_ Block private callers. Why should anyone need to anonymously fax
you?

1/23 We need more of these people - they do the jobs americans wont
Queens Rapists
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1063528/posts
\_ They have rights, too, ya know. Is this really any different
than foreign diplomats who rack up and ignore hundreds of
parking tickets?

1/22 From "last" on a linux box:
reboot system boot 2.4.20-24.9 Wed Jan 21 04:18 (1+11:23)
Does the "system" where the tty(e.g. pts/1) usualy is mean that this was
a cntrl-alt-delete job or is there other possibilites?
\_ it's "system boot", not "system" and "boot". you get the same message
if you just run 'reboot'.
\_ ok, so i'd get this message regardless of the way the system was
rebooted (short of pulling the plug)? There was noone on the box
at the time, so that is why I am assuming a cntrl-alt-delete.

1/20 Man, Nancy Pelosi is weird looking. She has this wide-eyed, crazed
stare when she speaks, and an unnatural manner. I wish she wasn't
the minority leader.
\_ She was reading off the teleprompter. Everyone looks freaked out
when they do that. When she speaks extemporaneously, she's much
more effective. This isn't, of course, to say that she has been
effective at all... --scotsman
\_ Do people think Clark looks even more this way?
\_ Looks like a fish..
\_ That's why you should never get plastic surgery.
\_ So how come three threads criticizing that idiotic campaign
stump, I mean, SOTU address, got censored, and this dumb thread
stays?
\_ No criticism of Our Great Heroic Leader will be tolerated.

1/19 Just curious. Can you use BSE as an assassination tool? Can you
somehow inject it into meat and give it to say, Bin Laden or N Korean
people?
\_ If you want to wait 20+ years to kill them, sure.
\_ If you know the person who feeds food to the person of interest,
you must be able to get to that person yourself.

1/16 Has anyone else been prompted to read the warped-looking word
when trying to send messages from yahoo?
\_ No, only when signing up for an account.
\_ Once, but only once.
\_ I did a few days ago for a few times, but not anymore.

1/14 A note on "hear hear": it was born from parliamentary proceedings,
where a speaker's supporters would exclaim "hear hear", ie, "hear him,
hear him".
\_ drives me fucking crazy when people use "here here" instead. grr.
\_ uh, language changes over time. deal, frenchy.
\_ Then why not "listen listen"?
\_ There's actually subtle differences in meaning there that would
take a bit of explaining. Basically, "hear" implies more than
just having listened. You can listen without understanding, or
without hearing for that matter. Similar to looking/seeing.
\_ More white imperial racism

1/13 Can anyone recommend a good introductory book on fuzzy sets/logic?
\_ "Fuzzy theory is wrong, wrong, and pernicious.
What we need is more logical thinking, not less.
The danger of fuzzy logic is that it will encourage
the sort of imprecise thinking that has brought us
so much trouble. Fuzzy logic is the cocaine of science."
-William Kahan
\_ any book will do. but once you read the book, read some papers
that explain why fuzzy logic is an inconsistent calculus of belief.
-ali

1/11 A New Year and time to finally clean up my place.
Am looking for suggestions for one of those storage places
North Oakland area. Rent a space for $20-40/month???
Any tips/suggestions? Price? what to look for?
24-hour access? Also looking for suggestions on plastic boxes to
store stuff in (books, clothes, junk). I am thinking of using
something semi-waterproof in case the storage room gets wet.
At least something better than old empty xerox-paper cardboard boxes
\_ If you're going to the trouble of cleaning up, why would you keep
the stuff and even worse pay to store it? What are the odds you'll
*ever* look at any of it ever again?

1/11 *YEAH* This is so cool:
http://www.bushin30seconds.org
\_ I really enjoy the frenzied paroxysms of dementia
leftists and communists suffer as their party goes
down in flames. Thanks for the entertainment...
oh, and free mumia and end racism.
\_ Free Mumia!... with the purchase of any Mumia of
equal or greater value!
\_ that's so fucking funny! thanks!
\_ Thanks for the hyperbole.
\_ I saw nothing hyperbolic about it. Care to explain?
\_ Is it really that hard to format your posts properly?
\_ I can't wait for some of these spots to air in October.

1/9 For SSL certs, what's the least expensive per/year Certificate
Authority that is default "trusted" by all the major browsers.
\_ Thawte
\_ #f. Thawte is now owned by the Verisign cabal and charges
ridiculous prices. http://Freessl.com.
\_ freessl's wildcard cert is still expensive.
\_ Who sells cheap wildcard certs these days?
\_ Yes, that is my question. -op
\_ It's more reliable than the lower tier ones, though.
\_ Thanks, freessl looks good. Have you used them?

1/5 Another fucking fascist who needs to stfu and get her face punched in.
http://sfgate.com/columnists/nelson
\_ look, i *like* trolls, and I even liked this one...the first time.
why not find a new troll, instead of re-posting the same one
with a new tag line?
\_ you seem...very angry.
\_ While I generally disagree with her you've made her point for her.

1/2 Your application, That movie, Wicked screensaver, Details.
Over two thousand emails in one day. what was the name of that virus?
Has it returned?
\_ i also received about one thousand starting Dec 31, addressed from
www-owner. is this also the case with you? -jwang
\_ the ones I got were addressed to www@csua. which I am on.

12/29 Hey psb: i thought they have "sweet lassi" and sour lassi. So how do
you know if the sour lassi is spoiled? Buttermilk tastes pretty sour
by default. I usually get the non-mango sweet lassi and it's fine.
\- because it has that tangy "bacteria crawling on my
tongue" taste. --psb
\_ Not to mention the salty lassi.
\_ I like the saucy lassi.
\_ Mmm, zzpicy lassi
\- because it has that tangy "bacteria crawling on my
tongue" taste. --psb
\_ Them are pretty big bacteria! Eight Legged FREAKS!

12/29 Any helpful used snowboard equipment stores in Berkeley? I know a
great one in Fremont(The Station), but don't have time to drive down
there.
\_ no, we're too busy judging people's entire culture by cross
referencing their food preferences with their skin color.
\_ Go back to your Cool Ranch Doritos and Coca Cola you
pasty-faced geek ;-)
\_ Some of us don't drink coke or eat doritos. Way too old for
that kid shit now. Gotta take care if we're going to be
around to hijack your bank account to fund our retirements.

12/23 DEATH TO THE COMMUNIST TURD COUNTERS!!! UPHOLD THE GLORIOUS BANNER OF
RPN CALCULATORS!!!
\_ You get the motd blue ribbon award for nerdiest tongue in cheek
post for 2003. Congratulations for sneaking that one in at the
last second. Let's hear it for our late entry winner!

12/20 Fremont 9th most desirable place to live?
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/7538860.htm
\_ As someone who lived there for far too long, that's
really disturbing... --scotsman
\_ Note that the list comprises towns with demographics
similar to the typical Money reader. It's kind of odd
that Fremont is so high since not all of Fremont is
upper-middle class.
\_ I dunno.. what's bad about it?
\_ look at the criteria used. So many other "better" places in the
bay area don't qualify.

12/20 Someone posted a resume pointer in the motd last week, looking for
a kernel job with storage management expertise. drop me email if
still interested: charmer@csua.berkeley.edu --charmer
\_ or just email jwm.

12/18 Anybody here have a beowulf cluster? What do you use to manage it?
If anything.. (such as software updates, remote installs, etc.)
\_ I have two. Systemimager to install. Manage like any other
workstations.

12/17 Is the line "Long time no see." really common English? I've use it so
many times writing to my Asian friends and now I've confused myself.
Thx. --- Asian
\_ Yes, it's common English. My Chinese teacher always guessed that
it was a direct translation of "chang shi bu jian" that made
its way into the mainstream of American English back in the 19th
century. She had no proof of that though, it was just a guess.
\_ Use that phrase when you actually see people, not when you write
to them.
\_ It's a colloquialism, like "What's up?"
\_ To be used with friends. Don't use it with others such as your
manager at work, for example. Not a good career move. :-)
\_ common phrase. must have come from the asian community and
adopted by others. Am I biting on a troll?
\_ I wondered about that too. My guess would be that it is a
direct translation of "hao jiu bu jian" (using commie
romanization here). However I see many white guys using the
phrase too.

12/16 someone in motd was looking for a kernel developer/storage management
job. if you're not hired, can you drop me email at craig@veritas.com
or charmer@csua.berkeley.edu? --charmer
\_ rest of thread deleted for leemness. give jwm a job.
\_ why are some people so narcissitic? --suave
\_ It's a form of stupidity. --hypercritical
\_ hey, his last name is "Harmer", and his first initial is C.
what's wrong with that --great_speller
\_ you're telling me his dad didn't plan out the great login
coincidence when he named his son? --tinfoilhatguy
\_ does this mean that "dim@csua" has low self esteem? --bait
\_ This entire thread is so lame, that words fail me. --troll
\_ Helping someone find a job is lame???

12/13 What are some of the great samurai movies out there (with subtitle)
with visually pleasing fighting scenes?
\_ Ran, by Kurosawa. -- ilyas
\_ The Seven Samurai, also Kurosawa, of course. -John
\_ Sanjuro, you guessed it, Kurosawa -scotsman
\_ I want to see many heads cut off. Kurosawa show that?
\_ You are an idiot.

12/12 http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
Can everybody go through this and post which one best fits you?
I know we have quite a few of that are an exact match. For example,
we have a grammarian and psb is of course a profundus maximus.
I'm an atheist and imposter most of the time. Let's count ourselves!
atheist: .
imposter: .
Eagle Scout:.
slut: .
Evil Clown: .
Grammarian: ..
Troll: ...
its all bullshit and only applies to usenet:.

12/10 Why do people write numbers in digits with parentheses after writing
them in English? For example: "I have two (2) apples."
\_ maybe it makes it easier for someone who is skimming a document
to pick out the numbers from the text--just a guess. It seems like
i've mostly seen this in government documents, where the signal
to noise ratio tends to be low.
\_ Redundancy is good? Help search engines?
\_ People do that?!
\_ I do it to reduce the chance the reader won't mess up my order.
\_ Same here. As in, "The Titanic needs forty (40) lifeboats."
\_ Maybe the redundancy helps to prevent ambiguity.

12/9 What's the least cromulent word you've heard used seriously?
\_ No definitions found for "cromulent"
\_ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cromulent
\_ A Cromulent? Is that like what you get when a Klingon and
a Romulan copulate?
\_ I still hate "orientate" and all its tenses and conjugations.
\_ It's a shame it's been around for 150 years. I hate it too.
\_ "nuculer"
\_ "gormandise"

12/9 In regards to the googlebombing thread right below. What sort of
caching is google doing, such that different people could get
different results for the same search done at (nearly) the same time?
\_ Eh, given google's political leanings, I guess all this is done
with google's full knowledge (and perhaps some help from specific
employees).
\_ alright, mr. conspiracy theorist.
\_ In the cloakroom! With the wrench!

12/9 Sodans who have a spouse/so with children from previous marriage(s),
please comment on positive/negative experience. Ok tnx.
\_ are you seriously going to take the motd's opinion on this!?!?!!!!
it's a little too big of a question to not discuss in person with
people you trust.

12/9 Another campaign promise broken by the Gropenator:
http://csua.org/u/576
\_ It's a good thing you included an article which does NOT
get to the 2nd part of the announcement, that he'll let an
independent investigation do its job.

12/8 How do I shrink a knit cotton sweater? Should I wash it hot or dry it
hot or just dry it for a long time?
\_ Cotton shrinks a little the first couple times its washed. I think
you need to dry it hot. If it's been washed a number of times,
it won't shrink anymore.
\_ This is an old sweater that's just gotten somewhat stretched out.
Does that make a difference?
\_ If it's been washed a number of times, it has already shrunk
all it's going to shrink.

12/7 In KDE3, how can I get it so that when I double-click in the
upper left corner of the window, the window closes (like in
MS Windows). Right now it doesn't close it, rather it just
opens up the menu associated with that little button).

12/5 Torture, thy name is Internet (with some help from a mad Frenchman)
http://static.hugi.is/video/fyndin/maestro-1.wmv
Worksafe. I will not be held responsible if you loop this near
colleagues with sharp objects, however.
\_ He did popcorn! Mmmm... mod4win.

12/5 I don't understand the motivation for invasions by Attila (the Hun).
Why can't he settle down, create art/culture, and live comfortably?
\_ It's that wife Helga.
\_ Chicks dig guys on elephants.
\_ i think he prefered a horse. you might be thinkin Hannibal.
\_ I ate his liver with some fava beans, and a nice chianti.
\_ Why do you hate America? Our invasion was perfectly justifi...oh...
never mind.
\_ How about Alexander the Great? He honestly believed it was his
destiny to conquer the world. Not rule... CONQUER.

12/3 What is the most bad ass heavy metal band ever?
\_ Slayer
\_ Dude, Slayer are pussies. Try the first Napalm Death album.
\_ Napalm Death is better musically, but there's nothing
"bad ass" about them.
\_ dISEMBOWELMENT
\_ Iron Maiden. Yeah, there are bigger bad-asses, but everyone
followed in Maiden's footsteps.
\_ King Diamond. Of course, are you asking Heavy Metal proper or
does death metal count (e.g. Cannibal Corpse)?

12/2 texperts please help! I'm using the book documentclass, and for some
reason the first chapter has the words "list of figures" printed at the
top of each page as if that were the name of the chapter (which it
isn't) what could have caused this? I've used both \chapter
and \mainmatter before the pages where I'm seeing the problem.
thanks.

12/2 I'm using godaddy as my registrar and they don't serve subdomains for
free. What do people here use for their nameservers?
\_ My own machine as a hidden primary, and http://secondary.com (now
UltraDNS) as the public primaries.

12/2 Anyone here play FFXI? If so, what server are you on?
Titan: .
\_ Is that any good? -- MMORPG fan
\_ I like it, and am really hooked on it. But I've never played
any of the other MMORPGs except for Ragnarok Online for a short
time. And that doesn't really count. You're better off reading
online forums for reviews than from me, since I have nothing to
compare to. -op
\_ How about FFX-2? --sky
\_ My roomate has rented X-2. He says it plays like an expansion
pack for FFX, is light on story, repetitive, and not fun.
I's also like to give a shout-out for FFTA.

12/1 When was the last time you skipped?
\_ about a week. seeing extended family gave me less cause to
skip then work before stupid "vacation."
\_ skipped what?
\_ Um... skipped. instead of walking...
\_ Couple of weeks ago. You need to feed me a lot of coffee...

12/1 Can someone tell me the name of the actress for the character Dao Ming
Fung in Meteor Garden in Ch26 a while ago? Thanks.
\_ Bad Taiwanese Actors
\_ I wasted way too much time searching to come to the conclusion that
fansites do not know her name.

12/1 \_ you seem to be implying that there's some
sort of punishment here for gay people.
hetero anal sex fetishists are just as
unhealthy in terms of likelihood of
spreading disease.
\_ Just for completeness, anal sex isn't really a "fetish"
\_ Ok, you're right. -!op who made the poo comment
\_ sure it is, if you really really like it and always
want to have anal sex instead of anything else.
notice i'm not talking here about your typical
"let's try it this way" sort of guy. -op
\_ Is hot gay sex a fetish?
\_ However, receptive anal sex occurs with both partners. In a
straight couple the woman has a higher risk for infection and if
she has e.g. HIV then in a later relationship it is unlikely for
her to transmit it to a male partner. Not so for homosexual men.
\_ I'm going to go out on a limb here: How do you know that
all homosexual men are in reciprocal anal sex relationships?
Some guys like to give but not receive and some the other
way around.

11/26 Looking for Santa/Elf/Angle porns, what are some good ones?
\_ acute or obtuse?
\_ I would classify this troll as both
acute and obtuse.
\_ My God. Why are some people so fucking stupid and lame?
\_ My God. Why are some people so prone to fall for obvious
trolling?
\_ But see, the troll is so obviously lame.
\_ But then why even respond to it? See, maybe this troll
isn't so lame, because the very depth of his lameness
has resulted in four responses already.