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Ryne Sandberg wants answers and believes that he can handle the truth -- so long as he knows what it is.

For the fourth time this season, rule 7.13 governing catcher/runner collisions went against the Phillies, causing its mild-mannered manager to get thrown out of the game -- a 6-5 loss to the Cincinnati Reds on Saturday (see Instant Replay) -- for the first time in his current capacity and the second time of his baseball career.

With the Phillies trailing 6-3 in the top of the sixth inning, Marlon Byrd was thrown out at home plate after trying to score on a two-out double by Domonic Brown.

"My argument was the catcher (Devin Mesoraco) blocked the plate before he had the ball," Sandberg said. "Byrd almost twisted his ankle with indecision. It has gone against us three times with different scenarios. Everyone wants to know what the rule is."

The play would have made the score 6-4 if it was reversed after the crew chief, Tom Hallion, asked for a review of rule 7.13. The 2:21 review prevented the Phillies from bringing the tying run to the plate, and it proved costly.

"I can't give you an educated response because I don't know what the rule is," Byrd said. "I was waiting for a lane. I was going to slide outside and get my hand in."

Byrd hit one of three home runs for the Phillies, who outhit the Reds 11-6. Carlos Ruiz led off the sixth with his second homer of the season, and Jimmy Rollins hit a two-run shot in the seventh, his eighth homer of the season and second in two days.

That turned out to be the more successful route to home plate.

Roberto Hernandez struggled with his command and the Reds' running game.

He allowed four hits, including Tom's River, New Jersey, native Todd Frazier's 13th homer of the season, but it was the three walks, one hit batter and three stolen bases that set the table for the Reds' four runs.

"He had 80 pitches and was having trouble with their running game," Sandberg said.

After Ben Revere bunted Brown and Cesar Hernandez to second and third in the top of the fifth inning, Sandberg sent John Mayberry Jr. to the plate to hit for Hernandez. Reds starter Alfredo Simon struck him out swinging.

The Reds gave Simon a 1-0 lead in the first without getting a hit off Hernandez.

Billy Hamilton walked and stole second. He took third on a ground ball to Rollins at short and scored on a sacrifice fly by Jay Bruce.

Byrd hit his ninth home run of the season off Simon with Ryan Howard on base to lift the Phillies to a brief lead in the second frame.

Frazier's home run tied the game in the bottom of the inning.

Frazier singled, his second of three hits, to open the fourth for Cincinnati. Zack Cozart doubled Frazier home and scored on a single by Ramon Santiago.

Bruce hit his third home run of the year off Ethan Martin with a man on first before the Phillies mounted their stunted rally.

Howard followed Ruiz's homer with a one-out single in the sixth. Byrd then grounded into a fielder's choice.

When Brown doubled deep to the gap in right center, Byrd knew he was heading home. The speedy Hamilton got to it quickly and threw a strike to Brandon Phillips, who wheeled and threw to Mesoraco. Home plate umpire Chris Guccione signaled an out after a mild collision.

The teams waited for the review and Sandberg registered a complaint. Hallion threw him out.

"There was some language," Sandberg admitted. "They said that New York made the decision."

Rollins hit his second home run of the series with Hernandez on to make it a one-run game in the seventh. Ruiz worked a walk. The Reds brought lefthander Manny Parra to the mound to pitch to Chase Utley.

Utley hit a ball nearly to the same spot Brown hit his double. Hamilton repeated his part but this time Phillips' throw was up the line. Mesoraco grabbed it in enough time to tag Ruiz as he passed.

"That was a good play by Mesoraco," Sanberg said.

The Phillies were shut down by Jonathan Broxton and Aroldis Chapman on one hit over the final two frames.

Chapman struck Rollins out to earn his eighth save.

The Phillies announced after the game that Mike Adams will be placed on the disabled list and the contract of Ken Giles will be selected from Triple A Lehigh Valley (see story). Adams has inflammation in his right shoulder.

"It was plaguing me for a little while," Adams said. "I felt it a little in my last outing in New York. I asked for a couple days off. I will have an injection to see if it clears up and see the doctor on Monday."