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So, three days off the magnesium and bathroom trouble is back.. I am going to find a better way to absorb the magnesium? does any one have experience with getting the body to absorb Magnesium in any other form (-Milk of Magnesia?) I did so well on that but the sweetness is to much, there must be a pill or some other thing.. I am not getting it from the foods that have magnesium in it.

I use magnesium glycinate [KAL brand] as well as the cheap home made solution.

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, July 2, 2012, 3:09pm; Reply: 3

Magnesium does two things. First, it relaxes muscles, including the muscles that help you move your bowels. Secondly, extra magnesium in the GI tract draws water into the stools, making them looser and easier to move.

Magnesium that you absorb helps your muscles, along with lots of other good things in your body. But the less-well absorbed forms of magnesium have a stronger laxative effect, since more of the magnesium stays in the stools, drawing water into them and softening them. Too much can lead to watery stools. But "just the right amount" keeps things moving smoothly.

When you get adequate magnesium topically, stools also normalize, although I'm not sure of the exact way that works.

Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, July 2, 2012, 6:37pm; Reply: 4

I've been away from home for four days, These trips usually mess my system up big time. I took Natural vitality called Natural Calm. I'm sure it has some avoids but it really did help me on this trip.

Posted by: Eric, Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 7:33am; Reply: 5

I was reading in a few places that you can take Mg supps until your stools run, but you still may be deficient. Key is absorption. Wish I could give you a solution, but I'm still experimenting myself ;)

Posted by: Marc121, Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 7:39am; Reply: 6

Since I started my rice regimen again. I have a regular bowel movement every nigth. Seems it really had a connection.

Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 5:54pm; Reply: 7

.... what is interesting for me is that the magnesium rich pumpkin seeds are a food I CAN eat only 3-4 and be satisfied.. I wish all other foods gave me that full feeling.. ??) I wonder could I eat 2-3 seeds with chocolate and feel full after a smidgen? would be fun// :X I will try it.. seeds with all foods.. I will test it.. ;D

````AbstractPurpose of review: This review summarizes the evidence for benefits of magnesium on metabolic abnormalities, inflammatory parameters, and cardiovascular risk factors and related-potential mechanisms. Controversy due to contrasting results in the literature is also discussed.

Summary: There is strong biological plausibility for the direct impact of magnesium intake on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors, but in-vivo magnesium deficiency might play only a modest role. Reverse causality, the strong association between magnesium and other beneficial nutrients, or the possibility that people who choose magnesium-rich foods are more health-conscious may be confounding factors.````

Since I started my rice regimen again. I have a regular bowel movement every nigth. Seems it really had a connection.

Marc, is it brown or white rice that you are eating? Curious because I get white as a diamond in SWAMI but it does not have the bran in it like the brown rice, but perhaps the white will be fine for me as it is a diamond. Thanks. :)

I was reading in a few places that you can take Mg supps until your stools run, but you still may be deficient. Key is absorption. Wish I could give you a solution, but I'm still experimenting myself ;)

And some people can have a magnesium overload and never had a single loose stool! Veggie drinks are wonderful for "bathroom" issues - which I simply don't have.

Marc, is it brown or white rice that you are eating? Curious because I get white as a diamond in SWAMI but it does not have the bran in it like the brown rice, but perhaps the white will be fine for me as it is a diamond. Thanks. :)

Purpose of review: This review summarizes the evidence for benefits of magnesium on metabolic abnormalities, inflammatory parameters, and cardiovascular risk factors and related-potential mechanisms. Controversy due to contrasting results in the literature is also discussed.

Summary: There is strong biological plausibility for the direct impact of magnesium intake on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors, but in-vivo magnesium deficiency might play only a modest role. Reverse causality, the strong association between magnesium and other beneficial nutrients, or the possibility that people who choose magnesium-rich foods are more health-conscious may be confounding factors.

Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, July 5, 2012, 9:34am; Reply: 13

try getting your magnesium from food perhaps.

Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, July 5, 2012, 12:44pm; Reply: 14

difficult.. as most foods I eat have little or no magnesium.. YET interestingly, Pumkinseeds which are good for me, have the most magnesium, --- I only 'need' to eat so few to have enough..

IT is the only food I can see as acting in that 'satiety' way! It is so puzzleing for me to see that even a handful feels like to much.

I am now trying to eat them with other foods that would call for more .. trying to cut the other food desires for more..

Posted by: Spring, Thursday, July 5, 2012, 2:11pm; Reply: 15

I really wonder how many different versions of magnesium there really are! I just counted up and I am taking at least four myself!!?? This needs to be studied a lot more in my opinion.....

I will be buying some from Nap, in any form they have, as I trust them best.. at least there I have some security of knowing that it will be ABO cleared.

1) I have had days without much of a MUSCLE TENSION headache.. impressive!

and if this stuff is possibly able to divert the diabetes bad muscles effects, then I am most exited. I mean, they talk of prevention? Almost to good to be true. Yet, my results are stunning - from 6 hour headaches every day, to near zero.. ! and I have not changed anything other then taken Trehalose first, which afforded me to figure out that THE real cause was muscle spasms, originating in my neck. I have neither changed foods nor sleep patterns.

2) I do however think: I am sleeping more often between 1 and 6;AM without needing to get up every 90 minutes. Could it be????

I will be buying some from Nap, in any form they have, as I trust them best.. at least there I have some security of knowing that it will be ABO cleared.1) I have had days without much of a MUSCLE TENSION headache.. impressive! and if this stuff is possibly able to divert the diabetes bad muscles effects, then I am most exited. I mean, they talk of prevention? Almost to good to be true. Yet, my results are stunning - from 6 hour headaches every day, to near zero.. ! and I have not changed anything other then taken Trehalose first, which afforded me to figure out that THE real cause was muscle spasms, originating in my neck. I have neither changed foods nor sleep patterns.

2) I do however think: I am sleeping more often between 1 and 6;AM without needing to get up every 90 minutes. Could it be????

It is funny about the way TC works to get us thinking about things in a new light!! I have been giving my whole supplement regimen an overhaul!! The magnesium certainly sounds promising for you - so far so good!! (smile) I will be anxious to hear how this turns out for you and especially the diabetes angle!

Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, July 5, 2012, 4:30pm; Reply: 18

perhaps you don't need to be so specific but just encorpotrate some of the foods that are on swami and are higher in magnesium.

Indeed.. but here is what I eat..I am much less adventurous compared to you.. adding more of these things is unlikely.. yet even just focusing on some of these foods will be a plus..

Foods high in magnesium serving size magnesium mg

Beans, black 1 cup 120 a cup is way more

Seeds, pumpkin and squash 1 oz(142) 151 more doableSpinach, cooked 1 cup 157 to much for every day

Posted by: weekender, Friday, July 6, 2012, 12:49pm; Reply: 20

The best magnesium to take internally is magnesium bis-glycinate, sometimes called magnesium di-glycinate. It is absorbed into the cells via the amino acid pathways, not via the metal pathways. I use a powdered magnesium made by metagenics - but I think the formulation we get here in AUS is a bit different to what might be available for you. They have a good one with some glutamine in it as well which helps to repair the gut at the same time.

Topically you can get a magnesium chloride oil, a compounding chemist will usually be able to make it up for you, or get it in. I find it's useful if you want to give your gut a break, just rub on the skin over the general area you want to target (ie rub over your belly for helping your digestion).

In AUS we have a really big problem with magnesium deficiency. Farming practices have depleted our soils (particularly on East Coast of AUS) and the soil is really low in zinc and magnesium. Foods that are meant to be good sources of these minerals are often not high enough to supplement someone who is low. A lot of people SHOULD be supplementing both these minerals because it's almost impossible to always get enough from the diet.

Posted by: Goldie, Friday, July 6, 2012, 1:30pm; Reply: 21

Thank you.. I am currently getting a new Magnesium supply from NAP and will see how I react.. Thanks for the info..

so sorry about your soil.. it is the next crisis - after water shortages ..

The problem with getting magnesium from food is two-fold. First, is that it's hard to absorb magnesium from the GI tract- it's absorbed much more efficiently from the skin. Secondly, as weekender already mentioned, depleted soils mean that most foods don't have as much magnesium as they used to. I'm not sure if the USDA database takes into account modern, depleted soils, or if it's based on older information.

I know that for myself, adequate magnesium intake is a vital part of controlling fibromyalgia symptoms. I aim for an epsom salts bath every night and spraying my whole body with mag oil in the mornings, but it doesn't happen every day. Sometimes I'll do a foot soak instead of a whole bath at night.

Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, July 12, 2012, 6:08am; Reply: 23

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Ruth, Single Mother to a 17yo O- girl, a 16yo O- girl, and a 10yo B+ boy

I am sooo impressed by all you say.. so on all the time. Thanks for all your advise.