Midnight Ravers would this song have gotten Robert Nesta Marley &quot;protested&quot;? What about the cover the original cover of the record Confrontation showing Rasta on the back of a White Horse driving a Joust through the heart of a Dragon wearing a &quot;Pope Hat&quot;...sorry don't know what thing is called. Not trying to start contreversy just more so wondering how the most &quot;marketable&quot; name in the history of reggae would be recived today in the &quot;marketplace&quot;http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318161#msg-318161
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NinjaSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:56:49 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318350#msg-318350Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318350#msg-318350

Personally, I always took it to mean Vanity or Riches were the "dressings" and the "confusion" was Desire and Greed (All tools of the Babylon System). The 10,000 Chariots/Riders who cover their faces are the righteous who have no need to be recognized or individualized in the midst of a "Musical Stampede" "Where EVERYONE is doing their thing"
While Bob certainly had strong beliefs, I think what made him so accepted was his ability to appeal to universal struggles and not FORCING others to see things his way or believe what he believed. Probably why the choice was made to literally tone done the "Confrontation" LP cover. Bob had his faults and in the midst of today's "YouTube Comment" mentality I'm sure he would be criticized for something.

Given that you choose the topic for this thread Ninja, perhaps you can enlighten me as to what portion of Midnight Ravers would have gotten RNM protested if not the line that goes "you can't tell the woman from the man cause they are dressed in the same pollution"......]]>DanielSNWMF Phorum 2015Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:27:43 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318263#msg-318263Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318263#msg-318263
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nahikurootsSNWMF Phorum 2015Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:37:41 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318259#msg-318259Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318259#msg-318259

QuoteHe felt the same way Capleton does about of lot of these issues.

Please show me a scintilla of evidence that Bob Marley felt that gays should be "String dem up and hang dem up alive", or where bob stated that gays "mi shot up" or that bob stated gays "fi get killed."

It seems to me that some posters here are not seeing the distinstinction between believing that homosexuality is 'wrong' in the eyes of some people (ie. the church and many rastas including Bob no doubt) and advocating violence against homosexuals......]]>DanielSNWMF Phorum 2015Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:38:23 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318255#msg-318255Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318255#msg-318255
2) It is meant to be Babylon...Rasta the Catholic Church with Mystery Bablyon the Plauge of Nations.

"Can't tell the woman from the man....they are dressed in the same pollution. There minds are confused with confusion so to their problem seems there's never no solution"

If this aint the club then I don't know what he is talking about. I guess my point is no one should confuse that fact that Bob was a Rasta Man. He felt the same way Capleton does about of lot of these issues. The difference is that (IMO) the music he made was free of that message and was/is for everyone.]]>NinjaSNWMF Phorum 2015Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:54:24 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318194#msg-318194Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318194#msg-318194

QuoteJ_72
...or some people have to work and can't respond right away, geeze.

Is Marley talking about hanging gay people from trees or shooting them in the head? No. Another attempt to justify murder music.

I have expressed all my opinions in this post, so I am TRULY done. The horse has been beaten, has died, and needs to be buried.

Just want to make sure, was this a gay horse?? Cuz if so you just wrote a lil hate speech equal to or greater than capletons]]>iriebartoSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:30:04 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318180#msg-318180Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318180#msg-318180
iriebartoSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:21:40 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318179#msg-318179Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318179#msg-318179

QuoteJ_72
...or some people have to work and can't respond right away, geeze.

Is Marley talking about hanging gay people from trees or shooting them in the head? No. Another attempt to justify murder music. And no, I don't agree with bombing a church, shooting a sheriff, or hatred against Catholics . Unlike many on this forum, no artist or music is so important to me that I would sacrifice my principles so I can listen to music.

Peace

PS Just to be clear- I have already said a few times I support an artist's right to sing hate music. I support your right to listen to that music. I also support the right of the gay community to stand up for their rights as well and use economic and political pressure as tools of protest. I also support my rights to keep fighting for equality for humanity, whether on this forum, at a parade, not supporting these artists with my money, voting or just talking to people.

I have expressed all my opinions in this post, so I am TRULY done. The horse has been beaten, has died, and needs to be buried.

Quick question first.
How many tunes does an artist have to record with "hate lyrics" for ALL of his music to be considered "hate music"?
Or is it even one offensive line or verse that makes that artist a "hate artist"?]]>Original RuffNeck Sol JahSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:14:42 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318177#msg-318177Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318177#msg-318177
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trust..]]>bigveinSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:02:51 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318174#msg-318174Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318174#msg-318174
]]>Original RuffNeck Sol JahSNWMF Phorum 2015Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:01:16 +0000http://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318173#msg-318173Re: Midnight Ravershttp://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,318161,318173#msg-318173
Is Marley talking about hanging gay people from trees or shooting them in the head? No. Another attempt to justify murder music. And no, I don't agree with bombing a church, shooting a sheriff, or hatred against Catholics . Unlike many on this forum, no artist or music is so important to me that I would sacrifice my principles so I can listen to music.

Peace

PS Just to be clear- I have already said a few times I support an artist's right to sing hate music. I support your right to listen to that music. I also support the right of the gay community to stand up for their rights as well and use economic and political pressure as tools of protest. I also support my rights to keep fighting for equality for humanity, whether on this forum, at a parade, not supporting these artists with my money, voting or just talking to people.