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I can. My family plan is over $50/mo cheaper with Sprint *and* I have unlimited data to each of the 3 iPhones on my plan.

Yes, I switched from Verizon to Sprint for those exact reasons.

+1. Three 4s phones on Sprint because of the ability to share an unlimited data plan. If the monthly rates on data phones go any higher everyone in the family will get a cricket phone and learn to live with it.

Then don't go to college at WVU in Morgantown WV/ We were driving through there this weekend. AT&T had 4-5 bars of "4G", Verizon iPad was Searching.....

In a big college town. Really?

Did some some real world experience with the Maps app, and I can officially say it sucks. Horrible. Couldn't find businesses in a major city. Horrible, just horrible. Can't wait for a Google Maps app. The web interface is better, but not what we had.

West Virginia has typically been a pretty weak state for Verizon, though that will be changing. I believe LTE towers were installed on the roof of Hotel Morgan. I think the issues previously was spectrum in the area. I'm not sure if Morgantown is part of it, but last month, Verizon got FCC approval for a major spectrum purchase from other companies.

West Virginia has typically been a pretty weak state for Verizon, though that will be changing.

Yeah, to gain access to the state they bought Alltel's assets here, but were definately late to the game. But they get to claim LTE coverage in Charleston because they have ONE tower downtown lit up. Really? One tower constitutes a market?

Yeah, to gain access to the state they bought Alltel's assets here, but were definately late to the game. But they get to claim LTE coverage in Charleston because they have ONE tower downtown lit up. Really? One tower constitutes are market?

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Edit: This post hes been rendered moot (not mute) for all relavent intents and purposes.

Yeah, even the article he posted said that other phones on Verizon and Sprint can do it, though of course it depends on the area. If you're not connected to an LTE network on Verizon, then a phone that is capable of it, can't do them simultaneously.

This is actually not completely correct (slightly OT I know but I wanted to clarify). There are a select few phones (Thunderbolt, Rezound and GS3 are 3 that I know of) that CAN do simultaneous V&D on Verizon's CDMA/EVDO network. I don't know of an Android LTE device that won't do SV&D in an LTE coverage zone.

Yeah, to gain access to the state they bought Alltel's assets here, but were definately late to the game. But they get to claim LTE coverage in Charleston because they have ONE tower downtown lit up. Really? One tower constitutes are market?

Hopefully cheap cables come soon, I'm always being asked for cables, for an "emergency" and never know if I'll get it back.

At least ones that can charge.

Did you read the article I posted? No cheapies...

"No matter the wizardry inside, Bradstock doesn't see any cut-rate Lightning alternatives being useful in the near future: as it's unlikely that anyone outside of Cupertino knows how the authentication works at this stage, clone cables may amount to little more than heaps of metal and plastic."

"No matter the wizardry inside, Bradstock doesn't see any cut-rate Lightning alternatives being useful in the near future: as it's unlikely that anyone outside of Cupertino knows how the authentication works at this stage, clone cables may amount to little more than heaps of metal and plastic."

Right, but it sounded like it was mostly the data. For my purposes, I don't care about that. I just want a cheap cable that is safe to use for charging purposes.

Right, but it sounded like it was mostly the data. For my purposes, I don't care about that. I just want a cheap cable that is safe to use for charging purposes.

Sounds to me like the connector, with the authentication chip, determines what contacts are for charging based on how you've inserted the cable. Not sure how you can do a cheap cable without the chip with that being the case.

For example say pins 1 and 2 are for charging and 7 and 8 are for data. You then unplug and plug back in reversed now what were 7 and 8 are 1 and 2 and what were 1 and 2 are now 7 and 8. If that chip isn't there to determine you've flipped the connector you could be sending power where you should be sending data. Not a good thing.

So does the iphone not do simultaneous voice and data?? I'm unsure after skimming the posts.
Or does it depend on the carrier and/or LTE availability?

Anyway, I've been rocking my HTC Rezound on Verizon LTE for a year here in OKC and couldn't do without simultaneous voice and data, use it all the time.
(Peruse the show times while arranging a date, view the radar while talking to the kiddo at work to warn him of weather alerts, check incoming emails for that important message while talking, etc.)
There is a drawback at this time though, Verizon uses the old 1x system for voice and the quality is lacking.
Maybe it'll get better when Verizon switches to VOIP over LTE sometime in the future.