Sprint to be first in U.S. with Samsung Galaxy S II, called the Samsung Epic Touch 4G

Information received by SprintFeed suggests that the Samsung Galaxy S II, the most awaited non-Apple smartphone in the U.S. for some time, will launch first on Sprint. Previous rumors had the phone making its debut on Verizon. At Sprint, the sizzling hot handset will be known as the Samsung Epic Touch 4G. The Samsung Epic 4G was the carrier's second 4G enabled handset and the first 4G model to offer a side sliding QWERTY keyboard. With "Touch" as the part of the new phone's moniker that differentiates it from the prior model, there will be no physical QWERTY on the Epic Touch 4G.

The information also mentioned to expect the phone to launch on September 9th. While that is a Friday, and Sprint usually launches phones on Sunday, that would have meant a launch on the 10 year anniversary of the 9/11 terror attack which would certainly explain the Friday release. As far as T-Mobile is concerned, as we reported, leaked information is pointing to an October 26th launch of its Samsung Galaxy S II variant named the Samsung Hercules.

Unless other information is received that changes things, it looks like Sprint customers will have first crack at the smartphone that has been on everyone's mind now for months. Those with Sprint accounts better start collecting loose change now because September 9th will be upon us before you know it.

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1.Chethan Murthy (unregistered)

Samsung Galaxy S II is a Extraordinary Phone with more specification but Its Processor is 0.2 lower than LG so I think that is the only back step it has but all other features are great. It will be at the top for more than 5 years.

the only galaxy2 benchmarks that exist with it clocked at 1.0ghz are pre production and non optimized. There was a huge jump when they optimized the core which is why quadrands are now in excess of 3300 out of the box.
The extra .2ghz doesnt make that big of a difference in benchmarks. Keep it to production models. :)

IF it were an even 1:1 ratio of clockspeed to benchmarks (which is definately not), the difference between 1000mhz and 1200mhz is 16%. On a 1:1 ratio that would make the exynos around 2772 on quadrant. And again, thats not how it actually happens in real life, but just for demonstration purposes.

for a real life example imma clock up my hummingbird processor and compare the 2.. ill use the difference between 1gh and 1.2 ghz on the exynos (since its the upgrade of the hummingbird it should be "similar")

HB @ 1ghz = 1736
HB @ 1.2ghz = 1867
difference = 7.01%

Ex @ 1.2ghz = 3359
- difference = 7% (235)
ex @ 1.0ghz = ~3124

so if the results are similar in actual % increase/decrease, the exynos should run about 3124 on quadrants at 1ghz.

OMAP quadrant (according to PA) = 2467

Omap @1ghz - Exynos @1ghz in %
2467/3124 -1 =.2103

The exynos is approx 21% stronger at the same clock speed.

That still obliterates everyone, even the OMAP (which would be my second choice if i couldnt get an exynos).

The Tegra2, snapdragon, and OMAP all run very close to eachother.. the only stand out performance is the Exynos.

also look at Smartbench 2011. i'm using it more since everybody brings up that Quadrant isn't optimized for Dual-Core Handsets and apparently it is so i ran a test and my productivity index was 2923, respectable score in Smartbench then i scroll down and find a stock Galaxy S II at 1.2GHz running the same version of Android as the Droid 3 and it's productivity index is 3861 then you subtract 16% of that because of it's higher clocked speed and that brings it to 3243. not really that much better than my Droid 3 and then surprisingly it says my gaming index is higher at 2458 vs. 2244 but i dunno what that means and i don't really care but it means something i guess. xD

okay, i'll take your word on the pre-production Galaxy S II scores. you really did your math here and if you're coming to the conclusion that a Galaxy S II with an Exynos is 21% BETTER than the Droid 3 with an OMAP4430 then i'll accept that but also realize that Quadrant scores GPU as well where Samsung has ALWAYS been consistently better with in the mobile space so really Exynos isn't really THAT much FASTER than an OMAP4 and even though it probably is slightly you still have to factor in the better scores from the Exynos from it's GPU. my Droid 3 averages out at around 2500 on Quadrant and give that a 16% bump and that brings it up to 2900 and again that's with half the RAM. the only device with an OMAP4 and a Gigabyte of RAM is the Blackberry Playbook and there's no Quadrant on that so i'm just saying wait for the playing field to even out, like when the Droid Bionic comes out and factor in everything, especially when it comes to Quadrant.

the 16% was just the difference between 1ghz and 1.2 ghz clock speeds.

the average difference in quadrant that I found using my hummingbird enhanced galaxy1, was actually about 7% difference, and thats what I was basing my math off of. :)

if you do it at the 7% i based my numbers off of, it puts it at 3591 on smartbench 2011 @ 1ghz. for the SGS2.

I used quadrants because everyone is more familiar with that app. Smartbench is supposed to be slightly more accurate though.

The best thing u can do is look at a quadrant/smartbench/whatever where they break down every category in the total score. The hummingbirds and exynos fly past everyone in the graphics power department.. they always have. They lose it a bit on the i/o marks (which has always been a snapdragon strongpoint) which actually means little in real world performance.

Its sad that when you break it down like that, the hummingbird scores higher than the DC snapdragon in nearly every category except i/o computation.

so, if you were calculating Pi all day, then that i/o score would be important. If you want to play great games and have a smooth OS, graphix are obviously more important.

Like I said before, the omap is no slouch. Im in no way dissing it, because it is the 2nd best dual core CPU out right now by a decent margin. The exynos however is in a class all by itself. Especially when you add in the great battery life the thing gets.

oh yeah, i know. i'm agreeing with you. i'm just saying the Exynos being in it's own league is exaggerated as far as the OMAP goes as for the rest? yeah, it is in a higher league than Nvidia's and Qualcomm's SoC but get an OMAP in the right conditions and it can theoretically put out some Exynos league scores. just clock it as high, put it in a Galaxy S II, include more RAM, that kind of stuff. oh and btw the Samsung Hercules in the link you gave isn't powered by an Exynos.

its still unconfirmed what its powered by. But there is no way that its a dual core snapdragon at 1.2ghz like originally rumored because they run 1900-2200 on quadrant at 1.2ghz. The only chipset that I know of that can hit 3300 on quadrant stock is the Exynos.
educated guess makes me happy to think its an exynos for that reason.

Something that always gets left out, and it makes a huge difference in the overall score, is the screen resolution. The adreno 220 that's on the snapdragon actually scores quite high, but it appears it's lower than some of these other chips, because the screen resolution. I wish the GSII had a resolution of 960x540 so we could see how the 2 really compare. I do know the tegra 2 scored lower on nenamark than the snapdragon, when put on a higher res phone.

actually, when they tested the tegra 2 with the same setup on multiple phones where the resolution was the only real difference, it made no real impact on scores.
you really think a dual core SoC cant handle a few extra polygons? lol. theres nothing on the market that can push any of them to their full extent. most all lag is software based.

Snapdragon APQ8060 is the factory name for the S3, which is found in the HP touchpad, Sensation, Evo 3D and others.

That article on the hercules is just regurgitating all previous rumors into one article. none of the specs are "official" or confirmed other than the 4.5 inch screen. And none of the other phones running a 1.2ghz Snapdragon APQ8060 come anywhere near 3300, much less 2500 in quadrant benchmarks.

If there is a DC snapdragon S3 chip inside the hercules and it runs those quads without any trickery right out of the box, ill buy u lunch.

well there's different S3 processors it seems. i know the designation for the one in the EVO 3D and the Sensation is the MSM8660 and the APQ8060 is a different S3 chip set that's in the Touchpad. it doesn't appear to be that different but why would someone start a rumor that a Galaxy S II is running the same processor that's in the Touchpad? it doesn't make any sense. i think there's some dark magic at work on the Galaxy S II...

especially since in another article on the site, it was detailing how the HP touchpad engineers were complaining about how weak the hardware was on the tablet and how they were limited in scope because of it.. There is no way thats the same chip in the hercules getting those quadrants.. lol.

I think the only real changes between the S3 chips in the phones in the tablets is the Adreno core.. i could be wrong about that, but thats all that pops into mind.

there is nothing wrong with tegra2 (i love how people get all butthurt about their chipsets), but the exynos is still the better chip. like it or not, there is a hierarchy with the dual core chips, just like there is with everything else.

snapdragon < tegra2 < omap < exynos.

tegra2 was the first dual core out. first is great, but first is never the strongest. Nvidia is rushing to get the Kal El chip out because they know they are behind right now with the tegra2 (and the kal el is freakin sweet).

54.John Smith (unregistered)

Omap>S3>Exynos>Tegra2

You are not comparing an up-to-date-processor from Qualcomm. Snapdragon= S1, Scorpion= S2 and the later models are called what they are, so it's not really surprising that the processor in the HTC HD2 or an old Acer is the worst.

yeah, i pretty much agree with remixfa here. we do disagree sometimes about the finer differences because he does get a little swept off his feet by the Exynos but i assure you he knows what he's talking about.

nah, im just a big tech geek. like most tech geeks i want the biggest bang for my buck. in the single core arena, that was the hummingbird and the best screen was super amoled... so i bought me a galaxyS.
in the dual core arena the best processor is exynos and the best screens are super amoled+.. and soon super amoled HD if the Nexus Prime rumors are true. So samsung is keeping me in their corner because they have the best tech.

Who knows, if those quad core Nvidia Kal El chips come out shortly after the nexus prime or sgs2 launch, i might hold off for that. The power increase in those chips are supposed to be substantial.

5 years? It won't be on top for 5 months, have you not seen the cell phone market the past 2 years? It doesn't matter how good the hardware is, Samsung's software (touch wiz, etc) is still utterly horrendous. The Epic was crippled by it and I'd rather not HAVE to root my phone just for it to live up to expectations. American carriers also cripple phones with their God-awful proprietary software, and rooted ROMs will always come with issues. This probably will be the fastest phone on the market for awhile, but after the issues I had with my original Epic (rooted or not), I think I'll stick with my Photon (I am fully aware of Moto's horrible software too, but it only cost me $49.99, so I'll work with having to root a phone for that cheap) :)

the biggest issue with the original galaxyS phones is that in samsung's "wisdom" they decided it was a good idea to run an RFS file system instead of EXT4 which is insanely faster and more stable (which is what gingerbread is based on).

I tell anyone with a galaxyS that they need to root it and rom it since 95% of the roms out there automatically fix that issue now.

Now that they hired Cyanogen and MIUI to their software teams, I have good faith that stupid things like that will be in the past.

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