Several team sources are claiming the Jets want a first- and second-round pick for Revis, which is astronomical payment considering Revis -- while one of the best players in all of football -- is coming off knee surgery and will want a hefty contract.

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

"We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider

That would potentially be an awesome defensive backfield made all the more dangerous if we were to acquire the needed pass rush.

A monster young DT able to push the pocket and some extra depth for the edge and suddenly our D would be even more deadly for opponents than it presently is. No more need for soft zone coverage.

Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to completely take the final step. That was done and the final step was taken. The OLine still needs work.

1. Revis is not injury prone. He missed 14 games this year. Before that, in 5 years, he missed 3 games.

2. Revis will not get traded for a QB. If you think otherwise, you're a fool.

3. Revis > Deion. Stop with the Deion love. He was fast and the defense had more leeway to slap WRs around. Deion wouldn't be All-Pro in todays NFL. He isn't physical enough. He'd be lucky to make a Pro Bowl.

some people are just delusional.. and he had the leeway to slap WR's around, yet he wasn't physical enough to make the Pro bowl now.. interesting take..

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Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

Hah, I was just about to lay out this exact Madden scenario!

This cannot be a legit rumor though, can it? That would be absolutely insane. What happens when Sherm needs his second contract and Revis is on the team? You guys know Sherm wants to get paid, and he is not going to take much, if any less than what Revis is getting. Are we going to use a third of the cap on 2 CBs? Doesn't make sense...

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

No Browner wouldn't play in the slot, but Kam isn't moving either. No reason at all to move pro bowl caliber players out of position.Sherman and Revis would play outside in our base package, with Revis sliding inside for our nickel package (making room for Browner).

We would still need to identify a weak side linebacker who can rush the passer and not be a liability against the run (this or DE should be our first round pick). Henry Melton could still be a target in addition.

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

"We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider

John Schneider admitted last year if Mark Barron was availible they would have selected him and tried to move Kam to Will..... Kam was a Pro Bowler.

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

"We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider

John Schneider admitted last year if Mark Barron was availible they would have selected him and tried to move Kam to Will..... Kam was a Pro Bowler.

Revis and Sherman on the outside.... seriously that is terrifying to think about.Granted Revis to my knowledge has never played extensively press coverage, but if they want him I trust they believe they can do it.

Browner moves to SS.

Kam moves to Will.

I don't know if that would work, but if they are really interested I assume that would be the plan. Browner IMO would be a liablity in the slot, as it would take away his greatest strenght.

Hah, I was just about to lay out this exact Madden scenario!

This cannot be a legit rumor though, can it? That would be absolutely insane. What happens when Sherm needs his second contract and Revis is on the team? You guys know Sherm wants to get paid, and he is not going to take much, if any less than what Revis is getting. Are we going to use a third of the cap on 2 CBs? Doesn't make sense...

We can figure that out next year, but keeping Sherman would be my preference. If Revis doesn't play like a 15 million dollar player than the decision is even easier. If he does play like a 15 million dollar player than our Super Bowl victory will be the biggest thing in Seattle sports history. If we can't afford him or he decides to walk we will have a 3rd round compensatory pick and a superbowl. Good enough for me.

bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.

I highly doubt Flynn is apart of the deal. The Jets are over the cap. and already have 12+ Million invested in the position. And 7 million, and that team has 19 million in a position that doesn't have a clear starter. Their GM is a cap specialist no way he includes Flynn. It doesn't make $$$ sense.

bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.

I highly doubt Flynn is apart of the deal. The Jets are over the cap. and already have 12+ Million invested in the position. And 7 million, and that team has 19 million in a position that doesn't have a clear starter. Their GM is a cap specialist no way he includes Flynn. It doesn't make $$$ sense.

You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).

I think i've made it pretty clear in MANY threads what i feel about moving players to new positions when they play at a pro-bowl or all-pro level at their current position.

I think many who think otherwise have a have a cake and eat it too mentality. You like Browner and Kam, but don't want to lose them if a player that is arguably better comes along and insist that the best solution is to have them switch positions. This isn't Madden. They are not going to have the same physical attributes at the new position. New position, new skill set. You have every right to suggest it, but i have every right to counter it.

This is the salary cap era. If you want to be good long term, you are going to need to mix and match what your team can excel at.

As an example We choose to have big physical corners, which means we are at risk when we play a burner WR. Whenever we do, someone will suggest moving ET to CB. No, you don't. You pick and choose your poison, and do your best to limit your vulnerabilities. We have an All-Pro safety in ET. That means he's the best, at safety.

A lot of players contracts are coming due, and many are due a big payday. We can't keep everyone we like.

I think i've made it pretty clear in MANY threads what i feel about moving players to new positions when they play at a pro-bowl or all-pro level at their current position.

I think many who think otherwise have a have a cake and eat it too mentality. You like Browner and Kam, but don't want to lose them if a player that is arguably better comes along and insist that the best solution is to have them switch positions. This isn't Madden. They are not going to have the same physical attributes at the new position. New position, new skill set. You have every right to suggest it, but i have every right to counter it.

This is the salary cap era. If you want to be good long term, you are going to need to mix and match what your team can excel at.

As an example We choose to have big physical corners, which means we are at risk when we play a burner WR. Whenever we do, someone will suggest moving ET to CB. No, you don't. You pick and choose your poison, and do your best to limit your vulnerabilities. We have an All-Pro safety in ET. That means he's the best, at safety.

A lot of players contracts are coming due, and many are due a big payday. We can't keep everyone we like.

Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.

SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.

The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.

SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.

The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap

You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).

Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?

SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.

The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap

You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).

Cutting Sanchez does nothing. They're stuck with his salary no matter what. They can cut Bart Scott + Calvin Pace and free up $17M .. but still.. you've subtracted 3 key guys from a defense that isn't getting any better. They wouldn't take on Flynn at that salary.

Idzik is going to want to build the Jets up similar to how PC/JS have built this team up - via the draft. They will want picks for Revis if he's moved.. guaranteed.

joeshaney wrote:You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).

Then it shows base salary of $4.5 million and misc bonus of $6.2 so potential cap hit removed is almost $11 million. So that is a $6 millino saving if they get Flynn

Personally I think someone picks up Tebow of waiver or with a 7th rounder. I would be interested in a trade of Jets Tebow and 7th rounder for a 7th rounder lol - not sure if that is allowed. All to remove the cap hit

Now Tebow is only $4 million cap hit if he stays on roster with $2.5 for 2013 - not sure what part of that is guaranteed

Regardless of their salary situation and how much in qb spot. They are not starting Sanchez next year, they are not starting Tebow next year. They need a qb.........

Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?

He's not available.

Of course Detroit that has cap issue wouldn't want to move a person underperforming his contract who is stuck in controversy every week........

1) I am not going to say this is impossible, but it is very, very unrealistic. Salary and compensation (ie the 2 greatest factors) do not play in our favor. Yes, we have nice cap room, but we are also looking at some huge deals in the near future for our young corps (ET, RW, Sherm, etc). Likewise, you know that one (1) team will offer up something ridiculous, and that team most definitely will not be the Seahawks (see: history of PC/JS). We value our picks and losing a bunch of them is not the MO of this staff, and certainly not for a position of strength on this team (whether that is sheer talent or scheme manipulation).

2) Even if Revis is a luxury (to an extent) you never, ever turn your back on making your team better. Think of it this way...would you trade James Carpenter (and I really like Carpenter) for Darrelle Revis right now? The resounding answer should be "well no sh!t Sherlock." In essence (granted hindsight), this is a possible scenario trading Revis for a 1st rounder. Now, you could obviously "miss" the chance of drafting a great player, at the same time. The point is, you know what you are getting with Revis, even if he is coming off of an injury. ACL, like Tommy John (which I've had) is so advanced nowadays, that it takes an (anti) miracle to not come back from it. Is it a luxury? Sure it is. But, you are also talking about a player who drastically changes what you can do on defense.

All I am trying to illustrate, is that even though this is a highly improbable scenario, it does in fact make sense from a strictly "make your team better" point of view. I think Browner is a terrific CB, but he's not Revis. And like I said, further enhancing a strength, is never a bad thing, as long as it doesn't completely jeopardize and weaken a weakness.

Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?

He's not available.

Of course Detroit that has cap issue wouldn't want to move a person underperforming his contract who is stuck in controversy every week........