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Funny thing about Quebec. By law, you are not allowed to have office meetings in English, or hallway/water-cooler conversations at your work place in English or you face a fine. No sending emails in English. This is on the books but has NEVER been enforced, because Montreal is an international city, and most international companies with offices here maintain an English-speaking workplace. Basically, you can't make people speak French if you want foreign investment... English being the international language. Now we're all worried they are going to enforce mandatory French language on all businesses. They've already come in and made us change all our keyboards to French!

On top of this, they might actually succeed in ceding from Canada. They are super socialist. I get paid in CAD, and my savings from this job are in CAD... so... that could suck if they nationalize the banks. Be like Cuba all over again. Maybe another civil war (similar to the October Crisis of 1970).

I haven't looked at the numbers, but Montreal is an international business hub and there are natural resources in Northern Quebec as well as the shipping industry. On the other hand there is some pretty awful corruption (mob connections to government), and some extreme socialism (although, not as bad as some places in Europe).

So extreme socialism is much better than living under obamacare...... I'm calling bullshit

Functional socialism > non-functional socialism. Because at least you get the services you pay for. Norway, which was even more socialist... you can at least see where the money is going. Some socialist countries are really nice places to live, others aren't. This is something that is really absent from the discussion in US politics. Everyone seems focused on the abstract concept of whether socialism is philosophically moral. Nobody seems to focus on the practicality, on whether or not people get what their taxes presumably pay for.

Obamacare "socialism" is literally a direct payout to private insurance companies. Just like the wallstreet bailouts are handouts to private banks, and the auto-bailouts are handouts to unions. Taxpayers aren't seeing their money do anything at all for them. This seems far worse to me than the Canadian socialist model that gives everybody free healthcare, because at least if you get free healthcare your money is doing something that could possibly benefit you. Also note that Obamacare is far more expensive than free universal healthcare, which is really awful/wasteful.

I don't like socialism, but if I have to live in a socialist country I would rather live in one where the government actually tries to provide services to the people who pay for it.