tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post7726224956682109891..comments2018-02-18T07:53:49.089-05:00Comments on Muddy Colors: Say it Loud.... I'm Black and I'm Proud!Mike Jacksonnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-76049849142778631772012-01-05T10:30:52.809-05:002012-01-05T10:30:52.809-05:00Dan, this is exactly the kind of advice I&#39;ve b...Dan, this is exactly the kind of advice I&#39;ve been giving to fellow artists. Black has a beauty and richness all it&#39;s own that so many artists tend to avoid, when it can give art more depth and life. So many sources teach not to use black, and they tend to give the impression that black is plain &quot;bad&quot;. Used properly, the results black can give could be stunning. Thanks for the post!Grace Penningtonhttp://www.gracepennington.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-48629059860185824502012-01-04T09:09:28.494-05:002012-01-04T09:09:28.494-05:00I have also found black to be beautiful. I use pri...I have also found black to be beautiful. I use primarily acrylics now and have discovered Golden&#39;s Carbon Black.<br /><br />In the past when I have mixed black I always got darker versions of a color whether in oil or acrylic. Carbon black has some magic voodoo that creates beautiful new colors as I mix it with specific fluid acrylic colors. I&#39;m sure there is a real exlpanation but I prefer magic.<br /><br />It may be a good thing to teach black avoidance in the beginning, much like Payne&#39;s grey in watercolors, but when one knows it&#39;s secrets black has magic.billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02616075975131350091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-90321650841090157282012-01-03T20:44:44.244-05:002012-01-03T20:44:44.244-05:00@ David-- Yep, I think I meant not so much that th...@ David-- Yep, I think I meant not so much that the black is overall cool or warm, but that it&#39;s properties shift based on transparency. More on that in this reply to Dan:<br /><br />@Dan-- And that&#39;s why I&#39;m intelectually stumped by this specific set of properties you describe for ivory black. I&#39;ve witnessed it firsthand (and your examples illustrate it beautifully), I accept it, and yet my brain doesn&#39;t really make sense of it. Here&#39;s a color that, by your own admission, behaves like a dark desaturated blue in other color mixes. So then you add white, and theoretically it should desaturate... shift from blue towards grey, which I think of as a warming shift, not a cooling one... So why then does the same value grey appear warmer as a transparent black than a grey mixed with white? Like I said, I always attributed it to white being naturally somewhat cool (I sneak yellow into my &quot;hot&quot; whites all the time) but that doesn&#39;t always hold true for white in other mixes.... Clearly I&#39;m overthinking it, but I like to analyze this type of stuff, so I find this a fascinating exercise.Ben Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106377129678198024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-44605326615307276112012-01-03T12:59:02.805-05:002012-01-03T12:59:02.805-05:00@Ben: I do tend to think of white as a cool color,...@Ben: I do tend to think of white as a cool color, but technically it&#39;s not. It tends to desaturate rather than cool, which are not always the same. Consider mixing white with blue. It will not get cooler, just paler.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070424854827757881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-54571270488741720152012-01-03T10:40:45.716-05:002012-01-03T10:40:45.716-05:00I had no idea about the differences that come abou...I had no idea about the differences that come about through mixing vs layering :) we need an article like this for white and pthalo blue next!Mike Burns - mrburns928@aol.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05920666313293023286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-87883480455989260972012-01-03T10:14:40.801-05:002012-01-03T10:14:40.801-05:00@Ben: I think it&#39;s more about relationships. T...@Ben: I think it&#39;s more about relationships. The &quot;A&quot; section is cooler than the &quot;B&quot; section, so &quot;B&quot; looks warm. In the link I put a warm glaze over the &quot;A&quot; section to make the &quot;B&quot; section look cool even though it isn&#39;t changed from the original.<br /><br />http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/black3v.jpg/David Yanchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09497249729385913415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-40156470660429145262012-01-03T08:01:24.590-05:002012-01-03T08:01:24.590-05:00When this post title popped up in my news feed, my...When this post title popped up in my news feed, my first thought was &quot;Dan&#39;s one of the whitest people I know.&quot; But then I got Mos Def stuck in my head so I didn&#39;t dwell on it.<br /><br />Great post, by the way. I&#39;m intellectually curious about the temp shift you show with ivory black, though. I always attributed it to the white being cool. I&#39;m not sure I can wrap my brain around why a cool black produces a warm grey when transparently applied. Have you noticed other colors shift temperature based on transparency? Is the warm shift in ivory black only when glazed over white? Or does it shift when glazed over another color as well?Ben Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106377129678198024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3366873976923917872.post-18512829524876972352012-01-03T05:25:44.802-05:002012-01-03T05:25:44.802-05:00Lovely examples, really makes the difference as ap...Lovely examples, really makes the difference as apparent as day/night. Personally I prefer Payne&#39;s Grey over any &#39;pure&#39; black but the results are not that far apart.<br /><br />Thanks!Nicohttp://nanoreply@blogger.com