Rank these defensemen in terms of career/peak value

All of these d-men have one thing in common - they played for the Vancouver Canucks at one point. I want to try to get some insight as to who was considered the best - not during their stint with Vancouver, but overall.

All of these d-men have one thing in common - they played for the Vancouver Canucks at one point. I want to try to get some insight as to who was considered the best - not during their stint with Vancouver, but overall.

I had to actually look it up for Schneider, I honestly don't remember him playing a few games in 2010 for the Canucks at all.

Anyway........

Reinhart
Schneider
Babych
Ohlund
Brown

Schneider was just a very dependable defenseman who I always thought was smart with the puck and sort of underrated when it comes to these lists. Never felt Jovanovski peaked the way he should have and always liked Jeff Brown's game in his career.

I'd be interested in hearing more about Babych, Lidster, and Snepsts since I know these are all notable players (never heard of Lidster though) but they all played before my time.

Btw other dmen that played 400+ games for Vancouver whom you didn't mention, Dennis Kearns, Garth Butcher, Dana Murzyn, and Rick Lanz. Those ones were also before what I remember though I've read that Murzyn was a fairly good dman.

I have noticed that drafting has been remarkably better in the last dozen years or so in the early rounds.

I'm not entirely sure why this is either off the top of my head but there doesn't seem to be as many chronically lousy management groups and organizations that go on year after year doing a really poor job, comparatively speaking. I know the CHL has really gotten better managed and organized than in the past as well.

Top 5
Babych based on peak...Had wieght problems and was wildly inconsistent defensively but for his short two year peak in wpg/hfd best here.

Reinhart...a personal favorite because of his finesse style and gets the nod on Babych for career but not peak and not range of talents.

Now it gets tough
Lidster very solid underatted d man.....One of Keenan's corp later. Others on this list were flashier but he was solid.

Schneider...Peak he might be the second best d on this list. By my own logic, he should be in front of Lidster but he hung on too long......He was quite a good d with MTL and useful other places but did not age well.

Willie Mitchell solid underrated d man who can play both ways.

I like Babych in my top 5 but there is no way that his peak is any better than Paul Reinhart's 3 year run from 81-83. Paul was the PP QB type that so many teams coveted.

His playoff record is also quite a bit better than Baybch as well even when teams are considered.

Top 5
Babych based on peak...Had wieght problems and was wildly inconsistent defensively but for his short two year peak in wpg/hfd best here.

Reinhart...a personal favorite because of his finesse style and gets the nod on Babych for career but not peak and not range of talents.

for me it's just the opposite. peak has to go to reinhart, but his short career makes babych the best career.

at his absolute peak, reinhart got hart votes.

and, to give a little context about babych from what's been said above, you really have to divide his career in two halves: the first half of his career he was a very good but not quite elite offensive defenseman who was questionable in his own end. he wasn't housley bad, or even say jovanovski bad, but with his size and talent, you wanted more. after he hurt his wrist and missed almost an entire year, he goes to the canucks as a salvage project and completely reinvents himself as a steady-as-hell second pairing guy on the canucks' shutdown pairing with gerald diduck.

but this is a really tough thread, because these are such different players and with such different career arcs. and they all have gaps in their games/careers. peak, i'd go:

reinhart
schneider
babych
lumme
ohlund

career:

babych
schneider
ohlund
jovanovski
lumme

schneider was completely one-dimensional until late in his career, but he was for a brief spell (with detroit and at the very end of his LA tenure) an excellent two-way guy.

jeff brown was always completely one-dimensional, but what a talent on the PP.

ohlund, mitchell, and hamhuis have all been at their very best one of the top five guys in the league defensively. ohlund had the fullest career, though hamhuis obviously has a lot of hockey ahead of him.

jovo isn't as good as people thought he was, but isn't as bad as people now say he was. an adventure in his own end, especially on the break out, but easily a number one defenseman in the league in his prime and he's played forever.

lidster was not nearly as good as the numbers make him look. if he's a top pair guy on your team (which he was on the canucks for years), you're going to be a last place team. think: a poor man's dave ellett. lumme also was a second tier offensive defenseman, but a huge huge huge upgrade on lidster.

salo was really underrated at his best, but because he was always an injury waiting to happen, you can't really put his peak that high. a healthy peak salo, if you could guarantee that he'd play 70+ games season-in, season-out for three years would probably make my top five. maybe as high as #3.

snepsts was a solid defensive guy, who brought nothing offensively. but he wasn't an elite defensive guy, unlike ohlund, mitchell, hamhuis, or even peak salo. a quality #3 or 4. better than lidster, but behind most if not all of the others.

You asked career/peak...find it funny most have just listed one list.
For peak Sami Salo must be in top five for everyone. One of the best pointman Nucks have ever had.
And Jyrki Lumme was awesome for many years. I think there is an anti-fenno conspirazy here.