Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on June 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

With Hannity Wednesday, Rubio explained that he once favored border security before legalization. “When I initially got involved in this effort in December of last year, I initially said let’s make sure everything, including that first step, is conditioned on the border and all these other things,” Rubio said. “Here’s the problem with that: Let’s say that it takes four years to do the border plan. What do we do with the millions of people that are here illegally in the meantime? Do we just ignore them?”

“Second,” Rubio said, “we need funding to pay for all these border improvements, and the way you get it is from the fines that these folks are going to have to pay.”

Hannity seemed skeptical. “Why wouldn’t it be better to just secure the border first totally and then move forward with dealing with the 11 million people or so that are in the country illegally?”

“That’s how I felt at the beginning, too,” Rubio answered, “The problem I encountered is what do I do in the meantime — ”

On Wednesday, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, who has supported forms of immigration reform since he was a House staffer in the 1990s, declared that he would “debate anybody” who calls the current bipartisan effort “amnesty.”

“Earned legalization is not amnesty,” Ryan said during a forum on immigration sponsored by the National Association of Manufacturers. “I will debate anybody who tries to suggest that these ideas that are moving through Congress are amnesty. They’re not. Amnesty is wiping the slate clean and not paying any penalty for having done something wrong.”

Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

“That,” Ryan said, “is not amnesty.”

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“The bill is an amnesty proposal dressed up in feel-good ‘pathway to citizenship’ rhetoric,” Heritage marketing vice president Genevieve Wood said. The Heritage Foundation’s $100,000 campaign is designed to “cut through the spin and show the proposal for what it really is—a rehashed version of the 1986 reforms that proved to be an abysmal failure,” she continued.

“The pro-amnesty crowd is trying every trick in the deceptive marketing handbook—from re-branding ‘amnesty’ as a ‘pathway to citizenship,’ to the old bait-and-switch of promising strong security and delivering nothing but amnesty instead,” Wood added. “We’re trying to shine some light on what the bill really does, so the American people won’t be fooled again as we were in 1986.”

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Senate Republicans don’t believe President Obama will enforce the bill’s border-security provisions–and they don’t want to let millions of illegal immigrants begin working their way toward citizenship until they see the president is serious about locking down the borders. That’s why they want those immigrants’ eligibility for citizenship to be contingent, or “triggered,” on the U.S. Border Patrol meeting benchmarks.

But Democrats don’t think Republicans will play fair when it comes to such a trigger. They fear Republicans will hold out for a trigger and then vote against the bill anyway. Or set benchmarks for a trigger that can’t be reached. Or establish a trigger but then deny the Border Patrol the funding it needs to meet the benchmarks…

Graham, something of a Democrat-whisperer for conservatives, may understand better than anyone the strength of the other party’s paranoia. “Here’s the problem for our Democratic colleagues,” he said Tuesday. “If you say 90 percent operational control of the border, it wouldn’t be hard to envision a Republican-controlled wing of the Congress where they undercut the ability to get to 90 percent through lack of funding.”…

Republicans are beginning to condition their support for the whole immigration package on Democrats’ agreement to include Cornyn’s amendment.

“If it goes down, the whole thing’s in jeopardy. If the Cornyn amendment passes, [reform] has a much better chance of getting across the finish line,” said a top GOP aide, adding that the provision is important because of Cornyn’s leadership position and credibility as a Republican up for reelection next year in a border state.

“If you’re worried about dialing down conservative blowback, you probably would want to be able to show, here’s how you used your vote and your leverage to improve the bill,” said one aide to a swing-state Republican. “Use the leverage you have, secure some changes to the bill, then once the bill is strengthened some, come out and say, ‘Given these changes, I now feel comfortable supporting this legislation.'”…

Republicans who are moving toward backing the bill are holding tele-town hall meetings and drafting opinion pieces explaining their votes, several aides said, in an effort to lay the groundwork for casting a vote that could disappoint some on the conservative right. Strategists say it’s important for Republicans concerned about their right flank to be able to point to efforts to strengthen border security and other provisions of the bill — a tactic the Senate Republican aide called “prepping the market.” It’s also important to find a few supportive conservative activists on the border enforcement-first side who can be available for media interviews in the wake of any announcement…

Schumer’s main fear is that jamming through a bill with only limited Republican support will embolden GOP opponents of immigration reform in both chambers into derailing the legislation he’s painstakingly worked to produce. And he’s vowing not to unravel the core of the bill as he negotiates with Republicans over the next three weeks of floor debate…

“No one wants to undo the core agreement, but some on the left apparently think we should reject any further Republican amendments and simply dare them to vote against the bill,” said a source close to Schumer. “That would be like spiking the football before we are even in the red zone.”…

A wise Latina, A.J. Delgado, recently explained on Mediaite.com why amnesty won’t win Republicans the Hispanic vote — even if they get credit for it. Her very first argument was: “Latinos will resent the added competition for jobs.”

But rich businessmen don’t care. Big Republican donors — and their campaign consultants — just want to make money. They don’t care about Hispanics, and they certainly don’t care what happens to the country. If the country is hurt, I don’t care, as long as I am doing better!This is the very definition of treason.

Hispanic voters are a small portion of the electorate. They don’t want amnesty, and they’re hopeless Democrats. So Republicans have decided the path to victory is to flood the country with lots more of them!

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Suicidal Republicans have supported illegal alien amnesties dating back to the Reagan era. They have paid a steep, lasting price. As bankrupt, multiculti-wracked California goes, so goes the nation. The progs’ plan has always been to exploit the massive population of illegal aliens to redraw the political map and secure a permanent ruling majority.

Now, in the wake of nonstop D.C. corruption eruptions, SchMcGRubio and Company want us to trust them with a thousand new pages of phony triggers, left-wing slush-fund spending and make-believe assimilation gestures.

Trust them? Hell, no. There’s only one course for citizens who believe in upholding the Constitution and protecting the American dream: Stop them.

The Muslim Lawyers Association (MLA) in Johannesburg has submitted a 600-plus page document to the Office of the National Director of Public Prosecution calling for the arrest and prosecution of President Barack Obama when he visits South Africa later this month.

The submitted document calls for authorities to “arrest Obama when he visits.” The group says Obama has ordered drone strikes that killed innocent civilians, warranting a formal investigation.

“The complaint, dubbed the ‘Obama Docket’ encourages South Africa to take seriously its domestic and international obligations and to act against International War Criminals lest they consider South Africa a safe haven and travel here freely with impunity,” the Muslim group announced in a press release.

Obama, who is scheduled to visit South Africa on June 29, can technically be prosecuted under the Rome Statute, which gives the country authority to prosecute a war criminal on its territory. Though even the Muslim Lawyers Association has to know the odds of the president of the United States being arrested and prosecuted overseas are infinitely small.

The MLA describes itself as “a professional, apolitical and a non-profit making body which is committed towards creating a community free of injustices as expounded by the Holy Quraan and the practice (Sunnah) of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).”

Jack Hillmeyer, a spokesman at the U.S. Embassy in South Africa said the embassy had “no comment.”

Meanwhile, “National Prosecuting Authority spokesman Bulelwa Makeke said the office had received the docket and was studying it,” according to Times LIVE in Johannesburg.

This morning on the Senate floor, Gang of Eight member Senator John McCain declared that the Gang’s immigration bill needed to pass in order to remove a “very huge stain on the conscience of the United States of America.”

What stain? Is Insane attempting to compare illegal immigration to slavery?

I may be 100%, completely, whackobirdish off-base here, but I’m pretty sure – and correct me if I’m wrong – no American slaves ever broke the law with the intention of becoming slaves. The overwhelming majority of criminaliens intentionally broke immigration laws to become criminaliens.

I am done with Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. Have you guys seen the pro-amnesty commercials on Fox
News they’re running featuring Rubio and telling people the “conservative” thing to do is to support amnesty?

The problem Rubio has with border security first is that amnesty must be accomplished as soon as possible. The feelings of betrayal among the republican voting block must not be strong enough to keep them home on election day.

He doesn’t know it yet, but if he votes this amnesty into law, he’ll never be President and the republicans will lose the House in 2014.

The act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.

If criminaliens are not prosecuted for the laws that they have already broken and the government is going to wipe the slate clean so that they can go on to ‘earn legalisation,’ THAT’S AMNESTY.

When a government declares a tax amnesty, it allows taxpayers, who are delinquent or have failed to file (crimes) to escape prosecution or further fines & penalties provided the outstanding monies due and owing are paid.

I am done with Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. Have you guys seen the pro-amnesty commercials on Fox
News they’re running featuring Rubio and telling people the “conservative” thing to do is to support amnesty?

bluegill on June 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Those are ads from Mark Zuckerberg’s group. While I am definitely not defending either Rubio or Paul, Zuckerberg’s group doesn’t have to get their permission to use those public statements.

If Hannity was a real man he would have kicked Rubio right in the ass. Marco Wormio says one thing to one audience and the opposite to another and then lies even more to try to worm out of it. He is a pathological liar and not to be believed ever again on anything. I think he is Obama’s brother from another mother.

Amigos – comrades – muchachos – friends, we are gathered here as an edifice of the great glory that is now vanishing and the intuitive feeling, based on the assumption as Mencken once said, “He who underestimates the American public will never go broke.” This is merely a small indication to behold and to perceive that which has gone way into the behind and to that which might project .. I mean go forward … out of the mouth … i mean .. the future…we’ve got to rip up the constitution so we can rip down those outdated borders! This is the main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t yet know.

Clearly today we must all be aware that political expediency and latino ethnicity takes precedence over rule of law and constitutional procedure. However you say – WTF ! – what does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two-faced … I mean a bi-faced … I mean a bi-polar … I mean a bi-lingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication, but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially all the Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! And through all this Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have attained, and have created for themselves serenity, and it is only their cognitive dissonance that is keeping them alive in their mindless absurdity.

Senors y Senoritas, Ladies and Gentlemen. The time will come when a first world
America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority latino nation , then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that badly especially when the booze runs out …

And the completely unbiased and bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the grand prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself and repeatedly … that he could change perceptions by calling his plan for knocking down those pesky borders EARNESTY …in other words, he could have been more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow first world existence. God damn!

Marco Rubio’s . EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – is a small contribuion to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 450 of them … million live in the United States and Mexico which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the RNC … I mean the DNC and it’s subsidiary the RNC, the organization for the $1,000 in affirmative action latino scholarships they’ve given out…tonight they took in over $4,000,000, but they do have expenses for their consultants you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, and I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidenta of la Raza Mexiamerica and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh and Drone Commander of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and again, thank you. …

Do I wish I’d voted for Crist. He would have done the same thing as Rubio has done, but Crist would never have been able to go under some fake conservative persona and he would have been ripped to shreds by pundits.

They are trying to mask amnesty in tough talk to make the bill look appealing to conservatives. And, seeing how many of you have lept like lemmings to defend and worship the traitor Snowden because you were told it was the thing to do, I wouldn’t be surprised if many fell for this crap.

Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

The act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.

If criminaliens are not prosecuted for the laws that they have already broken and the government is going to wipe the slate clean so that they can go on to ‘earn legalisation,’ THAT’S AMNESTY.

Resist We Much on June 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Sorry, RWM, but legalizing illegals is not amnesty. Amnesty would be letting them off for the crimes they have committed (as you wrote) but they would have to leave the nation. The amnesty would be that they wouldn’t be punished for having invaded – which should be that they can never return to this nation. Ever. Not for any reason.

If we just deported them but let them return on legal visas just like anyone else, that would be amnesty. But Rubio and the gang of traitors are proposing going far, far beyond amnesty. They are proposing to give the illegals that which they tried to steal – legal residence in the nation and legal work permits, here. That is beyond amnesty. That is aiding and abetting. An analogy would be a car thief. Amnesty would be to just let him return the car and walk away. But the gang of traitors are proposing that he gets to keep the car he stole. They are, at that point, accessories to the crime.

But, the gang of traitors isn’t finished. They don’t just want to let the car thief legally own the car he stole, but they have determined that the thief’s name must no be put on the title to the house of the people he stole the car from. This is even beyond the gang of traitors being accessories to the car theft. This is the gang of traitors committing a new crime (stealing ownership in the house of the car owners and giving it to the car thief) that is far beyond the original crime committed. THIS is what the gang of traitors and the treasonous little worm Rubio are doing. They are so far beyond amnesty territory that they are well and truly on TREASON ground.

This is not amnesty in any way, shape or form. It’s so far worse that it is a whole new level of crime – thought up, promoted and supported by the gang of traitors. They should all be tried for treason and have the book thrown at them.

I don’t think you are into metal or I would
dedicate a tune for you.
Made me think of the rot. Down with the Sickness.

hmmmm…point on Crist taken…
I dunno. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him…regardless.
I see where you’re coming from tho. sigh…
Like my vote for McCain…It wasn’t for him but against barry..only way I could do it without spitting up bile.
Palin helped ease my nausea.

They are trying to mask amnesty in tough talk to make the bill look appealing to conservatives. And, seeing how many of you have lept like lemmings to defend and worship the traitor Snowden because you were told it was the thing to do, I wouldn’t be surprised if many fell for this crap.

This has to be stopped.

If this amnesty thing gets close to passing, bluegill goes nuclear.

nuclear, metaphorically speaking, of course.

bluegill on June 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

F*cktard, I disapproved of the same types of programmes when Bush was in the White House. I think Bradley Manning is, rightfully, being prosecuted. I don’t care about Edward Snowden. I understand that the NSA will not ‘take down Obama,’ as you foolishly, little girl, alleged. In fact, I have been advising people here forever that impeachment is a waste of time, especially as long as Harry Reid is the Majority Leader in the Senate.

Get this through your pathetic, empty head: NO ONE TOLD ME TO BECOME OUTRAGED ABOUT THE NSA. Unlike you, I don’t need other people to tell me what to think or how to act.

How about The Gangbang Eight for what they are trying to do to America?

Do I wish I’d voted for Crist. He would have done the same thing as Rubio has done, but Crist would never have been able to go under some fake conservative persona and he would have been ripped to shreds by pundits.

INC on June 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

And Levin, Limbaugh and Hannity would have helped rip him to shreds, instead of their clinging to his leg like love sick 12 year old girls who just can’t seem to get over their big crush on him even as he tries to burn the republic to the ground.

Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

Effing liar.
S.744 does not require illegal aliens to pay back taxes before getting legal status (RPIstatus). It only requires RPI applicants to pay back taxes “assessed” at the time of application. (Sec. 2101, p. 70)
S.744 allows DHS to waive multiple misdemeanor convictions when granting amnesty,so an alien with three or more misdemeanors still may be eligible for legal status (RPI status). (Sec. 2101, pp. 64-67)
S.744 also authorizes DHS to waive a broad array of unlawful behavior for the purpose of determining whether illegal aliens are admissible.

Why don’t these cretins actually read what’s in it. Oh that’s right, they’ve been bought and paid for by the cheap labor lobby and given in to blackmail by the RNC for campaign donations.

This morning on the Senate floor, Gang of Eight member Senator John McCain declared that the Gang’s immigration bill needed to pass in order to remove a “very huge stain on the conscience of the United States of America.”

The only stain I see is the one that McCain left on his chair….
Throw McCain & Rubio into Mexico and then lock the border down.
That will ease my “conscience”.

Let’s say that it takes four years to do the border plan. What do we do with the millions of people that are here illegally in the meantime? Do we just ignore them?”

This is such utter BS. As you amnesty pimps continually point out, we already have de facto amnesty. You and your fellow amnesty pimps in the federal government have been content to ignore illegal aliens for decades now. So why do we suddenly need to do something with illegals over the next four years?

Illegal aliens are not being persecuted, and they’re certainly not being deported. In fact, they’re being provided (illegally) with billions of dollars’ worth of food stamps and welfare; they also get billions of dollars’ worth of “free” medical care in our ER’s; and many illegal aliens even have jobs in the U.S. (which is more than a lot of Americans can say). So what exactly is the big urgency to do something now?

“Second,” Rubio said, “we need funding to pay for all these border improvements, and the way you get it is from the fines that these folks are going to have to pay.”

More BS. The “fine” is a little more than a thousand dollars, and your amnesty bill gives Janet Napolitano the authority to waive even that pittance for as many illegal aliens as she chooses (or even all of them, if she wants), on the ground that it would be a “financial hardship.”

The idea that millions of low-income illegal aliens are going to pony up billions of dollars to pay for border improvements is ludicrous in any event, and you know it Rubio.

If you’re really worried about where the money for the border improvements is going to come from (and we all know you’re not worried, because you have no intention of making border improvements in the first place), you could always delete the section of your amnesty bill that gives many millions of tax dollars to racist, anti-American “community” groups like La Raza. Or you could demand that Obama start enforcing current federal laws that prohibit illegal aliens from receiving taxpayer-funded benefits like food stamps and welfare (that alone would save us billions of dollars a year — more than enough to fund substantial border improvements).

But you’re not going to do any of those things, Rubio, because you’re a corrupt liar and fraud. And we all know it now.

Re these “fines”. Our new citizens will file 10 years of back tax returns, claiming zero income and ten dependent and receive a very sizable Earned Income Credit “refund” in the many thousands. Will the IRS go after them for fraud? Hardly. This will cost trillions.