It seems like whenever Muse release a pop single, it's "the band has sold out!" Well, a lot of people can get dragged in by hearing one of their pop songs, then digging into their catalog. I mean, hell, found them through American Idol, and they quickly became my favorite band as soon as I listened to Absolution and Origin of Symmetry.

It seems like whenever Muse release a pop single, it's "the band has sold out!" Well, a lot of people can get dragged in by hearing one of their pop songs, then digging into their catalog. I mean, hell, found them through American Idol, and they quickly became my favorite band as soon as I listened to Absolution and Origin of Symmetry.

It seems like whenever Muse release a pop single, it's "the band has sold out!" Well, a lot of people can get dragged in by hearing one of their pop songs, then digging into their catalog. I mean, hell, found them through American Idol, and they quickly became my favorite band as soon as I listened to Absolution and Origin of Symmetry.

Same. First song I heard was SMBH on FIFA. Then TIRO and Uprising. And then around the time Drones came out I listened to that and decided to look into them more. Started from the beginning with showbiz, OoS, etc... I'd say I'm a pretty big fan now (not as much as most of y'all but still) and I only got into them because of their "pop" songs.

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And no one thinks they are to blame
Why can't we see
That when we bleed we bleed the same?

No. Just... no.
If it must come down to this, then I prefer to keep shamelessly 80s-influenced Muse, thank you.

Why? At least Radiohead are still writing genuinely interesting music, not just trend hopping like Matt.

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Originally Posted by blubb0r

- new album influenced by "burning man festival", many songs with EBM elements and Hiphop beats

Ah shit.

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Hell, in my honest opinion he is the best lyricist alive.

Not trying to be that guy, but no. As lurker said, the likes of Kendrick, Nick Cave and Darnielle could speak circles around him. Not that it matters, since in the case of Matt his lyrics are so bad that all other comparisons are immediately pointless.

The problem is Dig Down is literally Madness redux. Right down to the chord progression and vocal style. Madness itself was a George Michael "Faith" ripoff. Welcome back to 1987!

Wait wait wait...as a longtime fan of George, I never heard "Faith" in Madness! Why do you think so? But, as I first heard "Dig down" it was clear to hear the part from "Freedom" in it: "Freedom,freedom,freedom you gotta give for what you take!" in Dig down it is "dig down, dig down, dig down and find Faith!" also the "gospel" part reminded me of George Michael and his eycellent backing singers. Cause he's recently died, it may be a reason for me to dislike the song, and to know George's Freedom is way better.
There is an interview with one of the Sex Pistols, he asked Matt about the George Michael reference in the song, and Matt said "Always love a bit of George. Yeah, He's always find his way in somewhere."

It's quite sad in retrospect that SMBH probably felt like a big 'fuck you and goodbye' to the Muse of OOS and Absolution (and was treated as such by a lot of fans) at the time, but as Muse pop-ish chart material goes, it's far heavier (and a far better song) than most of what has come since. It's still their most accomplished crossover song imho.

EDIT: oh, and Turner's lyrics are a bit overrated, and AM is MASSIVELY overrated - a third of the album is just the same song played at different speeds with tiny melody variations (One for the Road, Knee Socks, Arabella, WYOCMWYH)

Why? At least Radiohead are still writing genuinely interesting music, not just trend hopping like Muse.

Because I don't want to hear that goddamn claim that "Muse copied Radiohead1!1!" anymore. They moved their first step by getting panned on this baseless evidence with Showbiz. It would be like overshadowing them again.
I prefer them to stay on separate dimensions, and that's it. Muse as a more viable band that like to play around some pop influences, and Radiohead as a perfect example of a band that are successful whilst experimenting properly a lot.
And... "trend hopping"? They would make music like Imagine Dragons and such if they were doing that.