iv)GUY de Dampierre (-1163). "Ansericus de Monteregio" donated property to
Pontigny, with the support of “--- uxor eiusdem Anserici”, by charter
dated 1145, witnessed by “Andreas de Baldament, Bernardus capellanus de
Monteregio, Guido de Dompetræ et Guido filius eius...Garnerius de Dompetræ...”[35]. Bishop of
Châlons 1163. The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the
succession and death in 1162 of “Guido episcopus”[36]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1163 that "Guido de Dampetra
frater Anserici, Guillelmi, Andree et Milonis virorum nobilium" was
elected "apud Cathalaunum", but that he died "ipsa die
qua erat in crastino consecrando"[37].

v)HELVIDE (-before May 1196).
The primary source which confirms her parentage and
marriage has not yet been identified. “Gaufridus dominus Jovisvillæ frater
Hugonis Brecensis” donated property to the priory of Saint-Jacques,
referring to “patris mei Gaufridi”, with the consent of “Helvide
uxoris mee et...Gaufridi et Roberti filiorum meorum”, by charter dated 1188[38]. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire de Joinville senechal de
Champagne" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt with the
consent of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his brothers Guillaume
archdeacon of Chalon, Robert and Simon by charter dated 1191[39]. “Gaufridus dominus Joniville senescallus Campanie”
confirmed previous donations to Sept-Fontaines abbey, for the soul of “felicis
memorie...matris mee”, by charter dated May 1196[40]. mGEOFFROY [IV] Seigneur de Joinville, son of
GEOFFROY [III] Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-Acre Aug 1190).

vi)AGNES (-after 1192). She is named as wife of Narjot [II] in the late 13th century
cartulary of Crisenon[41]. mNARJOT [II] Seigneur de Toucy, son of ITIER [III] Seigneur de Toucy & his wife Elisabeth --- (-1192).

b)EUDES (-after 1136). The primary source which
confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.

c)daughter . The primary
source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. mGEOFFROY, son of ---. Chevalier.

GUILLAUME [I] de Dampierre, son of GUY [I] Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Helvide de Baudémont (-after 1173). "Guido de Dampetra…et uxor eius…Elvidis et filii Anserici et Guillelmus"
approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to
the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[43]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order)
"Anserici, Guilelmi, Andree et Milonis" as brothers of "Guido de Dampetra" Bishop of Châlons[44]. Seigneur de Dampierre, de Saint-Dizier et de Moeslain. "Simon
dominus Belfortis" confirmed donations to Chapelle-aux-Planches, in
the presence of "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis...domini Wilermi
domini de Dampetra et Milonis de Planceii", by charter dated 1152,
witnessed by “...Wilermus dominus de Dampetra et Heleidis mater eius...”[45]. Henry I Comte de Champagne confirmed the donation made by “Hugo
Morellus...” to Toussaint-en-l’Ile with the consent of “domini Willermi
fratrumque suorum Andree et Milonis d Domno Petro matrisque sue domine Heluidis”
by charter dated 1152[46]. “Gulielmus de Moeslain” confirmed the donation to Avigny made
by “Guido pater meus de Dampetra et Helwidis mater mea” with the consent
of “fratrum meorum Andree et Milonis” by charter dated 1165[47]. Connétable de Champagne [1170]. [The Feoda Campanie
dated [1172] includes “…dominus de Pogi…Guillelmus li vallez de Domnipetra…”
in De Ronasco[48]. The
term “li vallez” suggests that this may not refer to Guillaume [I]
Seigneur de Dampierre, although no source has yet been identified which
confirms that the latter was knighted.] Guillaume de
Dampierre donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin de Huiron, with the
consent of his wife and children, by charter dated 1173[49].

m [firstly] (separated before
1172) as her first husband, ERMENGARDE,
daughter of --- (-after [Jul] 1190). Her first marriage is indicated by the charter dated Feb 1211 (O.S.)
under which “Gui de Dampierre frère dudit Dreu” guaranteed the loyalty
of “Dreu de Mello le jeune”[50]. It is also suggested by the charter dated 1172 under which "Drogo de Melloto et Ermengardis uxor mea" founded
Vieupou priory, with the consent of “domini Guidonis de Dampetra et domini
Milonis fratris sui et Guillelmi filii nostri”[51]. If this first marriage is correct, Ermengarde must have separated
from her first husband, assuming that the charters quoted here are correctly
dated. She married [secondly] ([1172]) as his second wife, Dreux [I] de Mello. “Drogo de Merloto”
donated property from "Mintriaci" {Nitry, canton Noyers, arr.
Tonnerre, Yonne} to La Charité-sur-Loire, for the soul of “fratris mei
Roberti et Vuillelmi ibidem sepultorum”, with the consent of "domino
Vuillelmo de Merloto…et uxore mea Ermengardi", by charter dated 1177[52]. "Droco de Merlo" donated vines “apud Irenci”
to Pontigny, with the consent of “uxoris mee Ermenjardis...et filii mei
Guillelmi”, by charter dated [Jul] 1190[53]. Ermengarde’s second marriage is also indicated by the charter
dated Dec 1223 under which “Willelmus dominus de Dampetra” swore
allegiance to Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne, naming [her sons by this second
marriage] “...dominum Willelmum, dominum Droconem de Merloto avunculos
meos...”[54].

[m secondly
---. Assuming that Guillaume’s marriage to Ermengarde is correctly shown
above, he must have married again after separating from her: Guillaume de Dampierre donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin
de Huiron, with the consent of his wife and children, by charter dated 1173[55]. This assumes that the relevant charters are dated correctly.]

Guillaume [I] &
his [first] wife had five children:

1.GUY [II] de Dampierre (-18 Jan 1216). The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines refers to the daughter of "sororem regis Francorum imperatricem" marrying "Nargaldo de Toceio, Guidonis de Dampetro consobrinus"[56]. He succeeded his father in [1161] as Seigneur de Dampierre. Connétable de Champagne [1170]. “Gui sire de Dampierre” donated
produce from “sa vigne de Moëlain...ses moulins de S. Dizier” to
Cheminon, with the consent of “Milon frère du donateur”, by charter
dated 1189[57]. Seigneur de Bourbon [before 1196], de iure uxoris. Seigneur de Montluçon 1202. “Gui de Dampierre frère dudit Dreu” guaranteed the loyalty of
“Dreu de Mello le jeune” by charter dated Feb 1211 (O.S.)[58]. “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis
nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne
was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio
uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by
charter dated Nov 1211[59].
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1216 of "Guido de Dampetra"[60].
The necrology of Saint-Etienne, Troyes records the death "18 Jan"
of "Guido dominus Dompetre"[61]. m (before 1196) as her second husband, MATHILDE de Bourbon,
divorced wife of GAUCHER [IV] de Vienne Seigneur de Salins, daughter of ARCHAMBAUD de Bourbon & his wife Alix de Bourgogne [Capet] ([1164/69]-18 Jun 1228). The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Beatrice filia Erchenbaldi de Borbon" as wife of "Guido de Dampetra",
specifying that they had three sons and three daughters[62]. Guy [II] & his wife had [eight] children:

b)PHILIPPA [Mathilde] (-1223). Philippe
II King of France confirmed the conditions of the proposed marriages between "Guigue fils du comte de Forez, et une fille de Guy de
Dampierre" and "Archambaud, fils de Guy de Dampierre, et
Guigone, fille dudit comte de Forez" by charter dated [10 Apr 1205/1
Apr 1206][65].
The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. La
Mure dates this marriage to "environ 1216"[66]. As noted above, the political difficulties involving the Forez,
Bourbon-Dampierre, and Auvergne families must have resulted in the earlier
betrothal to Philippa [Mathilde] being terminated but later revived. The
primary source which confirms the actual marriage has not yet been identified.
One possibility is that two different daughters of Guy [II] Seigneur de Dampierre
were involved, which would explain the different names used in secondary
sources. m (Betrothed [1205/06]), [1216] as his first wife, GUY [IV]
Comte de Forez, son of GUY [III] Comte de Lyon et de Forez [Albon] & his second wife Alix --- (-Castallaneta 29 Oct 1241).

c)GUILLAUME [II] de Dampierre (after 1196-3 Sep 1231). The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "primogenitus Erchenbaldus…secundus Guilelmus de Moyelen et de Dampetra…tertius Guido" as the three sons of "Guido de Dampetra", specifying that Guillaume married "Margaretam
comitisse Flandrie quem Burchardus clericus de Avennis rapuerat"[67]. He succeeded as Seigneur de Dampierre.
“Guillelmus dominus de Dampetra…ligius homo domini comitis
Campanie” agreed peace terms with “dominum Theobaldum comitem Campanie”
by charter dated 31 Dec 1223, which names “dominum Archembaudum fratrem
meum, J. comitem de Carnoto, Matheum fratrem suum, dominum Guillelmum, dominum
Drogonem de Merloto, avunculos meos, dominum Gobertum de Asperomonte”[68]. m ([18 Aug/15 Nov] 1223) as her second husband, MARGUERITE
de Flandre, separated wife of BOUCHARD d'Avesnes,
daughter of BAUDOUIN IX Count of Flanders [BAUDOUIN VI Comte de Hainaut] &
his wife Marie de Champagne (2 Jun 1202-10 Feb 1280). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Iohannam et Margaretam" as the
two daughters of "Balduinus"[69]. The Chronica
Monasterii Sancti Bertini records that "secunda
filia Margareta" was born after her parents left on their travels[70]. On the other hand, according to Villehardouin Comtesse Marie stayed behind when her
husband left on Crusade, gave birth, and afterwards left for Acre where she
died[71]. After her father's death, she was sent to Paris with her sister on
the orders of Philippe II King of France[72]. Matthew Paris names Bouchard as first husband of Marguerite in
his description of the background to the war in Flanders in 1254[73]. Her first marriage was arranged by King Philippe II, her husband being a noble from Hainaut whose family had long supported French interests.
Her first husband demanded a share of his late father-in-law's inheritance and,
after complaining to Pope Innocent III, the marriage was annulled by the Fourth
Lateran Council of 1215 as Bouchard d'Avesnes had previously taken holy
orders. The couple remained together until Bouchard was captured by his
sister-in-law Ctss Jeanne in 1219. He was released two years later on
condition he separate from his wife[74]. The Iohannis de Thilrode Chronicon
records the marriage of "Marghareta" and "Willelmo de Dampetra"[75]. Matthew Paris names Guillaume as second husband of Marguerite in his
description of the background to the war in Flanders in 1254[76]. The Annales Blandinienses
record the succession in 1244 of "Margareta soror eius [=Iohanna
comitissa}"[77]. She succeeded her sister in 1244 as MARGUERITE II Ctss of
Flanders and Ctss de Hainaut,
both her husbands having died. Her children by her first marriage claimed
their inheritance, but Louis IX King of France ruled in 1246 that Hainaut
should be given to the Avesnes children and Flanders to the Dampierre children[78]. She abdicated 29 Dec 1278 in favour of her son Guy de Dampierre. The Necrologio Sanctæ Waldetrudis records the
death "IV Id Feb" of "Margarete Flandrie
et Hanonie…comitisse"[79].

d)GUY [III] de Dampierre (-22 Mar 1275). The
Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "primogenitus
Erchenbaldus…secundus Guilelmus de Moyelen et de Dampetra…tertius Guido" as the three sons of "Guido de Dampetra", specifying
that "Guido adhuc erat infantulus"[80]. Minor in 1215. Seigneur de Saint-Just et de Janzas. “Gui de Dampierre seigneur de
Saint-Just”, having bequeathed “son grand camaïeu qui avait appartenu à
Henri de Neuilly son neveu” under his testament, declared that the bequest
would only take effect if Henri predeceased him, by charter dated 22 Apr 1272[81]. The necrology of Saint-Etienne, Troyes records the death "22
Mar" of "Guido de Dampetra dominus Sancti Justi" and
records the memory of "Guidonis de Dampetra domini Sancti Justi"
on "30 Jun"[82],
the latter assumed to be the date of his donation to the church.

e)MARIEde Dampierre(-[13 May] before 1237). A charter dated 1213
records an agreement between the abbess of Beaumont-les-Tours and "Herveus
Virsionensis dominus" concerning the priory of Mentouz, referring to
his earlier donation made with the consent of "Maria uxor mea et
Aenorda mater mea domina de Firmitate Humbaldi" and naming "Mathildis
que fuit conjux mea"[83].
"M. domina Virsonii" named "Archembaldum de Borbonio
fratrem meum" as pledge relating to the property of "domino
Herveo de Virsonio quondam marito meo" by charter dated 10 Sep 1219[84]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and second
marriage has not yet been identified. "Henricus Soliaci et Virsionis
dominus" donated property to the priory of Menetou-sur-Cher, with the
consent of "Marie uxoris mee et Willielmi filii eius heredis Virsionensis",
by charter dated Jun 1231[85]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “III Id Mai”
of “Henricus dominus Soliaci et Virsionis et M. uxor eius”[86]. It is not known whether this entry commemorates the death of
Marie or her husband. m firstly ([1210]) as his second wife, HERVE [II] Seigneur de Vierzon, son of
HERVE [I] Seigneur de Vierzon & his wife Eléonore de la Ferté-Imbaud
(-1221). m secondly ([1221]) HENRI [I] de Sully, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV]
Seigneur de Sully [Blois-Champagne] & his [first/second/third] wife ---
(-11 Aug after 1248).

f)JEANNE . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been
identified.

g)MARGUERITE . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been
identified.

h)[--- . Assuming that “neveu”, in the
charter dated 22 Apr 1272 quoted below, can be interpreted in its strict sense
of nephew, one of the parents of Henri de Neuilly was the sibling of Guy [III]
de Dampierre Seigneur de Saint-Just. This person was presumably one of the
other siblings named above. It is possible that “neveu” was used in a
more extended sense, as could be the case with its Latin equivalent “nepos”. m ---. One child:]

i)HENRI de Neuilly (-after 22 Apr 1272). “Gui de Dampierre
seigneur de Saint-Just”, having bequeathed “son grand camaïeu qui avait
appartenu à Henri de Neuilly son neveu” under his testament, declared that
the bequest would only take effect if Henri predeceased him, by charter dated
22 Apr 1272[87].

The primary sources which confirm the
parentage and marriages of the members of this family have not yet been
identified, unless otherwise stated below.

JEAN de Dampierre,
son of GUILLAUME [II] Seigneur de Dampierre & his wife Marguerite II Ctss
of Flanders and Hainaut (-1258). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Guillelmum Guodnem et
Iohannem" as the three sons of "Guillelmo domino de Dampetra [et] Margaretæ", specifying that "primo mortuo sine liberis
in tornramento apud Trasegnies"[101]. Matthew Paris specifies that his parents had "two
others" when he records the parentage of his brother Guillaume, but does
not name the other children[102].
The Annales Blandinienses name "Iohannde Dampetra"
as brother of Guy Count of Flanders, when recording the liberation of the two
brothers from captivity in Holland[103]. He succeeded his father in 1231 as Seigneur
de Dampierre-sur-l'Aube, de Sompuis et de Saint-Dizier, Vicomte de Troyes and Connétable de Champagne. He was captured at the battle of West-Capelle 4
Jul 1253 by his half-brother Jean d'Avesnes Comte de Hainaut, released in early
1257. In Jun 1256 he recognised that the officer of Connétable de Champagne
was not hereditary[104]. The date of his death is indicated by a charter of the king
naming, “monsieur de Dampierre et de S. Dizier”,
which records that [his wife] “madame Lore suer du duc de Lorraine”
retook property “pour raison de douaire” in 1258[105].

m (9 Mar 1250) as her first marriage, LAURE de Lorraine, daughter of
MATHIEU II Duke of Lorraine & his wife Catherine de Limbourg
([1234/37]-after 3 May 1288). Her birth date range is
estimated from her having given birth to her first known child in [1251/53]. Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by a charter of the
king, naming “monsieur de Dampierre et de S. Dizier”,
which records that “madame Lore suer du duc de Lorraine” retook property
“pour raison de douaire” in 1258[106]. She married secondly (after 29 Mar 1266) Guillaume
de Vergy Seigneur de Mirebeau et d'Autrey, sénéchal de
Bourgogne. Her second marriage is confirmed by a charter dated Feb 1267 under
which “Guillaume de Vergy seneschal de Bourgoine
et...Lore dame de Dampierre femme doudit seneschal” notified Thibaut Comte
de Champagne, King of Navarre of their agreement transferring “le chastel de
S. Disier” to the countess of Flanders[107]. Jean Seigneur de Dampierre et de
Saint-Dizier donated property to Saint-Dizier abbey, for the soul of “Jean
son père jadis seigneur de Dampierre et de S.-Dizier”, at the request of “sa
mère Lore et de sa...grand’mère Marguerite comtesse de Flandre et de Haynaut”,
by charter dated 1273[108].

Jean & his wife
had two children:

1.JEAN de Dampierre
([1251/53][109]-before 11
Nov 1307). He succeeded his father in 1258
as Seigneur de Dampierre, de Sompuis, d'Eclaron, de Saint-Dizier, de
Bailleul et de l'Ecluse, Vicomte de Troyes (until 1270). Jean
Seigneur de Dampierre et de Saint-Dizier donated property to Saint-Dizier
abbey, for the soul of “Jean son père jadis seigneur de Dampierre et de
S.-Dizier”, at the request of “sa mère Lore et de sa...grand’mère Marguerite
comtesse de Flandre et de Haynaut”, by charter dated 1273[110]. “Jean sire de Dampierre et de
Saint-Dizier” donated rights to Huiron monastery dated 1302, in the
presence of “...Guillaume de Dampierre fils de Jean...”[111]. mISABELLE
de Brienne, daughter of [ALPHONSE de
Brienne dit d’Acre Comte d'Eu & his wife Marie de Lusignan Ctss d’Eu] (-[Dec 1302/11 Nov 1307]). The Chronique des comtes d’Eu, written in 1390, names "Ysabeau
de Dompierre...Marguerite de Touars" as the two daughters of "Jehan
fils du dit Alphons" and his wife "Bietrix de Saint Pol, fille
au conte de Saint Pol", adding that Yolande married "au
seigneur de Puiligny et seigneur de Dompierre en la rivière de Somme assez près
d’Abbeville en Pontieu"[112]. There are
considerable chronological difficulties if Isabelle and Marguerite were
daughters of Jean [II] Comte d’Eu. In the case of Marguerite, she is recorded
as the wife of Vicomte Guy [II] in a charter dated 25 Jul 1278, while the birth
of the wife of Comte Jean [II] is estimated to [1254][113]. Not enough is known about the chronology of Isabelle to be certain
that the same problem exists, but it is likely that she was born not more than
ten years or so later than her husband. It appears more likely that the two
were daughters of Jean’s father Alphonse. Jean & his wife had [four] children:

i)JEAN de Saint-Dizier
(-[1367/73]). A charter dated 1407
names “Ioannes de Sancto Desiderio” as the son of “defunctus Ioannes
de Donnapetra miles dominus de Vangionerivo et de Sancto Desiderio” and his
wife “Alipdi de Auffemonte filia…quondam marescalli Franciæ nuncupati de
Nigella”[137].
Seigneur de Saint-Dizier et de Vignory. m (before 1334) MARIE de Bar-Pierrepont,
daughter of ERARD de Bar Seigneur de Pierrepont & his wife Isabelle de Lorraine (-after 1380). A charter dated 1407 records that “Ioannes de Sancto
Desiderio”, son of “defunctus Ioannes de Donnapetra miles dominus de
Vangionerivo et de Sancto Desiderio” and his wife, married “Maria de
Barro” and had “defunctum Edouardum”[138]. Jean & his wife had one child:

(a)EDOUARD de Saint-Dizier (-13 Aug 1401). A charter
dated 1407 records that “Ioannes de Sancto Desiderio”, son of “defunctus
Ioannes de Donnapetra miles dominus de Vangionerivo et de Sancto Desiderio”
and his wife, married “Maria de Barro” and had “defunctum Edouardum”[139]. Seigneur de Saint-Dizier, de Vignory et
de Veuilly. A charter dated 26 Sep 1402 records a claim by “Yolant de Bar
et Ysabel de Bar” against “Monsieur Iean de Vergy chevalier et sa femme,
Messire Ferry de Chardoines, I. de Saint-Dizier sa femme, Ieanne et Ysabel de
la Haute Ribaupierre”, the former stating that “Messire Erart de
Bar...[et] Ysabel de Loreinne” had “Thibaut et Marie de Bar”, that
Thibaut married “Ieanne de Namur” and had “Yoland et Ysabel de Bar”
while Marie married “Messire Iean de Saint Disier le iuene” and had “Messire
Edouart de Saint Disier” whose wife “Dame Ieanne de Vienne”
remarried “un grand seigneur de Vergy”[140]. After Edouard died, his succession was disputed between his
widow, his mother’s nieces, the descendants of his paternal great-aunt
Isabelle, and his second cousin Jeanne de Saint-Dizier. m as her second/third
husband, JEANNE de Vienne,
widow [firstly] of JEAN Seigneur de Rougemont,
[maybe widow secondly of SIMON de Grandson,] daughter of HENRI de Vienne Seigneur de Mirebel & his first
wife Marguerite de Bauffremont (-[1411/8 Oct 1412]). The primary source which
confirms her first marriage has not been identified, although the fact of the
first marriage and that she had children by her first husband are indicated by
the testament of her brother Gauthier. The question of her possible second
marriage is discussed in the document BURGUNDY COUNTY NOBILITY. The testament of “Gauthier de Vienne
[seigneur de Mirebel]”, dated “Feb 1399 (O.S.)” [date should be 1390?], named
as his heir “Gauthier de Vienne fils de feu Jean de Vienne son frère”
with “[les] enfants de Jeanne sa sœur dame de Saint-Dizier...” as
substitutes[141].
She married thirdly/fourthly ([Aug 1401/26 Sep 1402])
as his second wife, Jean de Vergy Seigneur de Fouvent et de Champlitte. Her [second/third] marriage is confirmed and her
[third/fourth] marriage indicated by the following document: a charter dated 26
Sep 1402 records a claim by “Yolant de Bar et Ysabel de Bar” against “Monsieur
Iean de Vergy chevalier et sa femme, Messire Ferry de Chardoines, I. de
Saint-Dizier sa femme, Ieanne et Ysabel de la Haute Ribaupierre”, the
former recording the descent of “Messire Edouart de Saint Disier” whose
wife “Dame Ieanne de Vienne” remarried “un grand seigneur de Vergy”[142]. Letters dated 1411 record the claim by “Isabellis de Barro
domina d’Arques et Ioanna domina Castrivillani heredem se dicens defunctæ
Ysabellis de Barro dominæ quondam de Granceio et d’Ancerville” against “Ioannam
de Vienna ad presens Ioannis de Vergeio militis et antea defuncti Eduardi
quondam domini de Sancto Desiderio uxorem”[143]. She presumably died before 8 Oct 1412, the date of her last
husband’s testament in which she is not named.

ii)ISABELLE de Saint-Dizier
(-13 Jan 1371). The
primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been
identified. It is assumed that she died childless and no descendants of hers
were involved in the litigation which followed the death of her nephew Edouard
de Saint-Dizier. Dame de Montemois 1362. m
firstlyJEAN le Mercier, son
of ---. m secondlyJEAN de Châtillon
Seigneur de Gandelus et de Dury, son of JEAN de Châtillon
Seigneur de Châtillon, de Gandelus, de Troissy et de Marigny & his first
wife Eléonore de Roye Dame de la Ferté en Ponthieu (-after 15 Dec 1377).

iii)JEANNE de Saint-Dizier . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has
not been identified. It is assumed that she died childless and no descendants
of hers were involved in the litigation which followed the death of her nephew
Edouard de Saint-Dizier. mJEAN le Mercier Seigneur de Noviant-au-Pré, son
of ---.

e)JEANNE de Saint-Dizier
(-[22 Jul/2 Dec] 1343). “Jean de Saint-Dizier, Robert son frère et Jeanne sa sœur”
transferred “tous leurs droits dans l’héritage d’Etienne [de Salins] leur
aïeul...les châteaux de Saint-Laurent-la-Roche, d’Augisey, de Sainte-Agnès,
d’Aluise et de Valempoulières” to “Etienne et Guillaume leurs autres
frères” by charter dated 1317[145]. Dame de La Sarraz. It is assumed that she died childless and no descendants of hers
were involved in the litigation which followed the death of her great-nephew
Edouard de Saint-Dizier. m
firstly (before 1324) HUGONIN
de Villars de Varair, son of ---. m
secondlyAYMON de Montferrand
Seigneur de La Sarraz, son of --- (-before 1342).

f)ISABELLE de Saint-Dizier (-before 1368). Dame d'Urville, d'Humbrecourt, de Rouvres et de Montenot. A charter dated 26 Sep 1402
records a claim by “Yolant de Bar et Ysabel de Bar” against “Monsieur
Iean de Vergy chevalier et sa femme, Messire Ferry de Chardoines, I. de
Saint-Dizier sa femme, Ieanne et Ysabel de la Haute Ribaupierre”, the
latter stating that Guillaume de Dampierre, son of “Messire Iean de
Dampierre...seigneur de Saint Disier”, married “Ieanne de Chalon fille
Estienne de Chalon Seigneur de Vignorry”, whose children were “Iean et
Ysabeau” of whom Jean married “Aliz d’Aufemont” while Isabelle
succeeded “à la terre de Vignorry” and married “Hue de Blancmont”[146]. mAME de Blâmont
Seigneur de Deneuvre, son of HENRI [I] Seigneur de Blâmont [Salm] & his
wife Kunigunde von Leiningen (-after Sep 1324).

Guillaume & his second wife had one child:

g)GEOFFROY de Saint-Dizier (-killed in battle Poitiers 19 Sep 1356). His parentage is
confirmed by the following document: a document dated 18 Aug 1408 records a
claim made by “Ioannam de Altarapinepetra dominam de Migneariis relictam
defuncti Folmerii de Guerolezek scutiferi et Ysabellim de Altarapinepetra
dominam de Portu eius sororem relictam defuncti Guillelmi de Vergeio quondam
militis, se gerentes heredes...defuncti Edouardi quondam domini...de
Vangione-rivo” against “Reginam”, reciting that “defunctus
quondam Guillelmus de Domnapetra miles ex sua uxore...de Asperomonte” had “duos
liberos...Ioannem [incorrect, see 1317 charter quoted above] et
Gaufredum”, the latter being father of “Henricum...dominus de Rupe”
who was father of “Ioanna uxor...Ferrici [de Chardoigne]”[147]. His mother’s identity is indicated more
precisely by the following document: a charter dated 21 Dec 1346 records that, after the death of “Joffroit
d’Aspremont chevalier signeur de Kieurechin” his heirs in Quiévrain were “freres
et soers...Henri...eveske de Vredun, medame Mehaut de Lalaing se sereur, madame
Alliennor d’Aspremont dame de Fontaines leur soer et monsigneur Joffroit de
Saint Disier chevalier”[148].
Seigneur de Roche-sur-Marne, de iure uxoris. mISABELLE de Châtillon Dame de Roche-sur-Marne,
daughter of --- (-after 1366). Geoffroy & his wife
had four children:

i)HENRI de Saint-Dizier (-[25]
Dec 1376). His
parentage is confirmed by the following document: a document dated 18 Aug 1408
records a claim made by “Ioannam de Altarapinepetra dominam de Migneariis
relictam defuncti Folmerii de Guerolezek scutiferi et Ysabellim de
Altarapinepetra dominam de Portu eius sororem relictam defuncti Guillelmi de
Vergeio quondam militis, se gerentes heredes...defuncti Edouardi quondam
domini...de Vangione-rivo” against “Reginam”, reciting that “defunctus
quondam Guillelmus de Domnapetra miles ex sua uxore...de Asperomonte” had “duos
liberos...Ioannem [incorrect, see 1317 charter quoted above] et
Gaufredum”, the latter being father of “Henricum...dominus de Rupe”
who was father of “Ioanna uxor...Ferrici [de Chardoigne]”[149]. Seigneur de Roche-sur-Marne. Seigneur de la Fauche, de
iure uxoris. m (1366) as her first husband, MARGUERITE
de Joinville Dame de la Fauche, daughter of OGIER de Joinville
Seigneur d'Effincourt & his wife Marguerite de Beaupré (1329-after 1410).
She married secondly ([1377]) as his second wife, Eudes Seigneur de Savoisy.
Documents dated Sep 1381 record that “Messire
Renaut de Mello et sa femme, auparavant femme de Messire Hue de Grand”
claimed against “Messire Eudes de Savoisy et Marguerite de Dongeux sa femme
fille de feu Messire Oger de Dongeux Seigneur de la Fauche, et Madame Ieanne de
S. Disier fille de ladite Marguerite et de feu Henry de Saint Disier son
premier mary...ores veuve de feu Guillaume de Grançon”, noting that her
[Jeanne’s] father died 1376 “environ Noel” and that her husband had died
“il n y a pas trois sepmaines”[150]. A register dated 12 May 1397 records that “Ogerus de Dongeux
miles” bought some properties and died leaving “Margareta uxore Henrici
de Rupe militis dicti de Sancto Desiderio eius filia” who married secondly
“Odone de Savoisiaco” as his heir[151]. A register dated 1407 records that “Margareta de Dougeux
domina de la Fauche” married firstly “defuncto Henrico domino de Rupibus
milite”, by whom she had “Ioanna domina de Rupibus uxor Ferrici de
Chardoigne militis”, and secondly “Odone cum Savoisiaco milite”[152]. She married thirdly Crescent de Flévy. Henri & his wife had one
child:

The following reconstruction of this family
is an outline which shows selected family members only, mainly for hyperlinking
to other families studied in Medieval Lands. The information has not
been verified against primary source documentation, unless otherwise stated.

3.HUGUES de Châtillon (-[1382/90]). "Iehan
de Chasteillon sire de Dampierre” and “Hue de Chasteillon son frere”
reached agreement about “la succession de feu Iean de Chastillon iadis
Seigneur de Dampierre leur pere, comme de nostre…Marie Dame de Rollancourt”
by charter dated Dec 1363[167].
Seigneur de Sompuis. Seigneur de Dampierre et de Rollaincourt. Duchesne records his
imprisonment by the English in 1369 with his stepson[168]. Duchesne records presence at the siege of Gent in 1381 and at
Rosebecq in 1382[169].
Hugues was deceasedin 1390 when his wife is recorded, as cited below. m (before 12 Jan 1363) as her second husband, AGNES de Sechelles, widow of JEAN [I] Tirell Seigneur de Poix,
daughter of MATHIEU de Sechelles & his wife --- (-after 1390). Her family
origin and two marriages are confirmed by a parliamentary decision dated 12 Jan
1362 (O.S.?) which records that "Hugonis de Castellione domini de
Sompuis et de Sommereux mariti Agnetis de Sechelles relictæ defuncti Ioannis
Tirelli domini de Pisis quondam militis” was “ballum...liberorum uxoris
suæ ac defuncti prædictorum”[170]. Duchesne records that Agnes de Séchelles claimed her dower from
her son Jacques in 1390[171].
Hugues & his wife had [three] children[172].

i)JACQUES de Châtillon (-after 1446). Duchesne records his parentage and his mention in 1413[176]. Seigneur de Dampierre, de Sompuis et de Rollaincourt. Grand Pannetier de France. Duchesne records his death soon after 1446[177]. m ([1413/14]) as her third husband, JEANNE Flotte Dame de Revel
et de Montcresson, widow firstly of ANTOINE d’Auvergneand secondly of FRANÇOIS d’Aubichecourt Seigneur
de Montcresson lez Montargis, daughter
of ANTOINE Flotte & his wife --- (-14 Feb 1431). Duchesne records her parentage and third marriage while her
father-in-law was still living, as well as her earlier two marriages[178]. Duchesne records a judgment dated 6 Mar 1452 under which she was
ordered to pay a debt relating to her first marriage[179]. She appointed André de Chauvigny as her
heir[180].

ii)VALERAN de Châtillon (-after 1471). Duchesne records his
parentage[181].
Seigneur de Beauval. He succeeded his brother as Seigneur de Dampierre, de Sompuis et de
Rollaincourt. mJEANNE de Saveuse, daughter of BON de Savoise
& his wife Catherine de Boubers (-after 1498). Duchesne
records her parentage, marriage, and some details about her ancestry, as well
as noting that she was still living 1498[182]. Waléran & his wife had two children:

(1)MARGUERITE de Châtillon. Duchesne
records her parentage and marriage, and names the couple’s descendants[183]. Dame de Dampierre, de Sompuis et de Rollaincourt. mPHILIPPE de Lannoy Seigneur de Willerval,
son of GILBERT [II] de Lannoy Seigneur de Willerval & his wife Marie van
Gistel.

(2)BARBE de Châtillon (-before 1509). Duchesne records her parentage and marriage, and names the couple’s
descendants[184].
Dame de Beauval. m
(1479) as his first wife, JEAN [II] de Soissons Seigneur de Moreuil et de Poix, son
of VALERAN de Soissons Seigneur de Moreuil & his wife ---.

b)[JEAN de Châtillon dit
Floridas (-after 1405). Duchesne records his mention in “un
Arrest” date 1405 with “Jean de Chastillon son fils naturel” and suggests
that he may have been the brother of Jacques de Châtillon[191].]

4.MARGUERITE de Châtillon. Duchesne records her parentage and marriage[193]. mJEAN [II] Tirell Seigneur de Poix et de
Mareuil, son of JEAN [I] Tirell Seigneur de Poix et de Mareuil & his second
wife Agnes de Séchelles (-1382).

Etienne, earliest
known ancestor of the Seigneurs de Joinville {Haute-Marne}, is recorded in the
early 11th century. According to the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines,
he was from Vaux, near the abbey of Saint-Urbain[194], the village of Vaux-sur-Saint-Urbain being located about six
kilometres south of Joinville, adjacent to Saint-Urbain Maconcourt, near the Marne river. Etienne’s parentage is unknown. Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that Etienne started building the first castle of Joinville with the help of his father-in-law and
that he was "comes Ioviniaci"[195], although no other sources have been found which corroborate that
he bore this title. It is possible that the reference results from confusion
between the names "Joinville" and "Joigny" {Yonne}, the
latter being located south-west of Troyes near Auxerre. Contemporary charters
refer to Etienne's castle by the names "novum castellum" and
"Junci-villa" (see below). The wording of Alberic’s Chronicle
suggests that Etienne de Vaux was the vassal of Engelbert de Brienne. By the
mid-12th century, the seigneurs de Joinville had acquired a position of
considerable power among the nobility of the county of Champagne, demonstrated
by the appointment of Guillaume [III] Seigneur de Joinville as Sénéchal de
Champagne in [1153][196],
an office which remained hereditary within his family for several generations.

1.ETIENNE de Vaux, son of --- (-[after 1027]).
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Stephano…de Vallibus
iuxta abbatiam Sancti Urbani", specifying that he was a supporter of
Engelbert de Brienne in the war of Boulogne, became "comes Ioviniaci"
by right of his wife after the death of his mother-in-law (although no record
has been found that Etienne bore the title comte de Joigny, it being probable
that this reference results from confusion between the names Joigny and
Joinville), and started building the first castle of Joinville with the help of
his father-in-law[197].
Seigneur de Joinville. He acquired the avouerie of the abbey of
Saint-Urbain[198].
Hermann Bishop of Toul threatened "Stephano Novi-Castelli domino"
with excommunication, for having invaded property of the monks of Saint-Blin at
Augéville, by letter dated 1018[199]. Robert II King of France required "miles Stephanus de
Junci-villa" to restore property to the abbey of Montiérender, by charter
dated 15 May 1027[200].
m (before 1027) --- de Brienne,
daughter of ENGELBERT [II] de Brienne & his second wife Alix de Sens. The
Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the only daughter of "comes
de Brena super Albam Engelbertus" & his [second] wife as wife of
"Stephano…de Vallibus"[201]. Dudon abbot of Montiérender granted benefits to “Stephano de
Juncivilla”, noting that “Engelbertus comes Breonensis...sororem”
married “supra memorato Stephano”, by undated charter[202]. Delaborde dates this charter to before 15 May 1027[203], presumably because of the charter of that date quoted above. Etienne & his wife had one child:

a)GEOFFROY [I] de Joinville (-[1080]). "Gozfridus de novo castello"
donated property to Montiérender by charter dated [1061/62 or before] in which
he names "pater suus Stephanus"[204]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridum"
as son of "Stephano…de Vallibus", specifying that he was
"comes Ioviniaci et secundus dominus Ioneville"[205]. Seigneur de Joinville. “Gaufridus miles” confirmed
“ecclesiam beatæ Mariæ de villa...Wasciacus” by undated charter,
subscribed by “Gaufridi qui hoc donum dedit, Blanchie uxoris eius, Gofridi
filii eorum, Rainardi filii eorum...”[206]. Brunon abbé de Montiérender declared that "Geoffroy de
Novo Castello", having demanded the return of some churches taken by
his father, was granted the church of Dommartin for life, by charter dated to
[1050/80][207].
mBLANCHE de Reynel,
daughter of ARNOUL Comte de Reynel & his wife --- de Fouvent. Her origin,
as mother of "domno abbate Stephano", is deduced from the
Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de Dijon which names Etienne's parents as "patre
Joffredo…consul [qui] a patre et avo consulibus originem duxit" and
"matre…Arnulfi…consulis de Risnel filia, matrem habens…consulis Gerardi de Fonvenz filiam"[208].
“Gaufridus miles” confirmed “ecclesiam beatæ Mariæ de
villa...Wasciacus” by undated charter, subscribed by “Gaufridi qui hoc
donum dedit, Blanchie uxoris eius, Gofridi filii eorum, Rainardi filii eorum...”[209]. Pibon Bishop of Toul recalls donations made to Saint-Mansuy,
among others those by "Arnoul chanoine de Verdun et Blanche dame de
Joinville", with the consent of their heirs "Etienne clerc, le
comte Renard et Roger son jeune frère", by charter dated 29 May 1103[210], which suggests that Blanche survived her son Geoffroy [II]
Seigneur de Joinville (Renard and Roger, maybe also Etienne, being his sons).
Geoffroy [I] & his wife had four children:

i)HILDUIN de Joinville (-killed in battle Boulogne ----). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Holdoinum"
as the brother of "Iovevillam Gaufridus secundus, tertius…eiusdem loci domnus",
specifying that he was killed young in the war against Boulogne (near
Joinville) leaving three children[211]. m ---. The name of
Hilduin's wife is not known. Hilduin & his wife had three children:

(a)GAUTHIER de Joinville . The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherum…et Wicherum…et Hescelinam
domnam de Mulleio" as the three children of "Holdoinum",
specifying that the two sons died childless[212]. A charter dated 1124 records the settlement of a dispute between
the abbeys of Montiérender and Bollancourt concerning a donation of land “à
Longeville”, donated by “Aiseline fille d’Hilduin de Neuilly, femme
de...Guy d’Aigremont, Vautier et Witier ses frères” for the soul of “feu
Witier fils dudit Hilduin”[213].

(b)WICHERde Joinville (-before 1124).
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherum…et Wicherum…et Hescelinam domnam de Mulleio" as the three children of "Holdoinum", specifying
that the two sons died childless[214]. Seigneur de Nully. A charter dated 1124 records the settlement
of a dispute between the abbeys of Montiérender and Bollancourt concerning a
donation of land “à Longeville”, donated by “Aiseline fille d’Hilduin
de Neuilly, femme de...Guy d’Aigremont, Vautier et Witier ses frères” for
the soul of “feu Witier fils dudit Hilduin”[215].

(c)HESCELINE de Joinville. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
names "Galtherum…et Wicherum…et Hescelinam domnam de Mulleio"
as the three children of "Holdoinum", naming "de Aeromonte…Guido, Fulconis filius de Sarcellis" as husband of
Hesceline and their son "Werricum patrem Galteri de Mulleio"[216]. A charter dated 1124 records the settlement of a dispute between
the abbeys of Montiérender and Bollancourt concerning a donation of land “à
Longeville”, donated by “Aiseline fille d’Hilduin de Neuilly, femme
de...Guy d’Aigremont, Vautier et Witier ses frères” for the soul of “feu
Witier fils dudit Hilduin”[217]. Heiress of Nully. mGUY
d'Aigremont, son of FOULQUES de Sarcelles & his wife ---
(-after 1140).

ii)GEOFFROY [II] de Joinville (-before
1101). The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus filius eius [=Gaufridi II domnus Ioveville et comes Ioviniaci]" when recording in 1080 that he succeeded on
the death of his father[218].
Seigneur de Joinville.

iv)ETIENNE de Joinville . His origin is deduced from the Chronicle of Saint-Bénigne de
Dijon which names the parents of "domno abbate Stephano" as
"patre Joffredo…consul [qui] a patre et avo consulibus originem duxit"
and "matre…Arnulfi…consulis de Risnel filia, matrem habens…consulis Gerardi de Fonvenz filiam"[220].
Abbot of Bèze. Pibon Bishop of Toul recalls donations made to Saint-Mansuy,
among others those by "Arnoul chanoine de Verdun et Blanche dame de Joinville", with the consent of their heirs "Etienne clerc, le comte Renard et Roger son jeune frère", by charter dated
29 May 1103[221].
This charter suggests that Etienne survived his older brother Geoffroy [II].

GEOFFROY [II] de Joinville,
son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Blanche de Reynel
(-before 1101). “Gaufridus miles”
confirmed “ecclesiam beatæ Mariæ de villa...Wasciacus” by undated
charter, subscribed by “Gaufridi qui hoc donum dedit, Blanchie uxoris eius,
Gofridi filii eorum, Rainardi filii eorum...”[222]. "Geoffroy senex sire de Joinville", with the
consent of "Geoffroy son fils et de Hodierne sa bru", donated
property to the church of Vaucouleurs, by charter dated to [1070/80][223]. Seigneur de Joinville. The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus filius eius [=Gaufridi II domnus Ioveville et comes Ioviniaci]" when recording in 1080 that he succeeded on
the death of his father[224].
Dudon abbé de Montiérender declared that he summoned "Goffrido iuniore,
Junville domino…advocati…Blesensis" to Meaux, that the latter was
unable to present himself because of the captivity of "filii sui
Stephani", and that Geoffroy had therefore agreed with the abbey to
hold his avouerie on the same terms as "son aïeul Etienne", by
charter dated to [1088][225].
"Gaufredus de Junccivilla" is named in a charter dated
to [1089/90]/1093] which records that "defuncto filius eius Gaufredus"
donated property to the abbey of Molesme, subscribed by "Warnerio gener
eius"[226].

m (before 1080) HODIERNE de Courtenay,
daughter of JOSCELIN [I] Seigneur de Courtenay & his first wife Isabelle de Montlhéry. Hodierne is named as the daughter of Joscelin
[I] and his first wife in Burke’s Peerage, and wife of Geoffroy de
Joinville, but the primary source on which it is based has not yet been
identified[227].
The Historia of Monk Aimon records the mother of
Guy and Renard de Joigny as the only child of Joscelin by his first wife, which
suggests that Hodierne must have been born from her father’s second marriage[228]. "Geoffroy senex sire de Joinville", with the
consent of "Geoffroy son fils et de Hodierne sa bru", donated property
to the church of Vaucouleurs, by charter dated to [1070/80][229].

Geoffroy [II] & his wife had five
children:

1.ETIENNE de Joinville
(-after [1088]). Dudon abbé de Montiérender declared that he summoned "Goffrido
iuniore, Junville domino…advocati…Blesensis" to Meaux, that the latter
was unable to present himself because of the captivity of "filii sui
Stephani", and that Geoffroy had therefore agreed with the abbey to
hold his avouerie on the same terms as "son aïeul Etienne", by
charter dated to [1088][230].
The circumstances surrounding the captivity of Etienne are not known. However,
the fact of his being taken captive suggests that he was of some importance in
the family, possibly even his father's oldest son, although this is not
certain.

2.RAINARDde Joinville (-after 29 May
1103). The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Renardum…comes Ioviniaci…et Rogerum Ioveville domnum" as the two sons of "Iovevillam Gaufridus
secundus, tertius…eiusdem loci domnus"[231]. Seigneur de Joinville. Pibon Bishop of Toul recalls
donations made to Saint-Mansuy, among others those by "Arnoul chanoine
de Verdun et Blanche dame de Joinville", with the consent of their
heirs "Etienne clerc, le comte Renard et Roger son jeune frère",
by charter dated 29 May 1103[232]. According
to Europäische Stammtafeln[233], Renard and his brother Roger were sons of Geoffroy [I] Seigneur de
Joinville. However, this looks chronologically unlikely in light of the dates
attributed to Roger's descendants. The speculation could be based on a
misinterpretation of the 1103 charter, on the assumption that "Etienne clerc, le comte Renard et Roger son jeune frère" were all three
brothers.

3.ROGERde Joinville (-1137 or after). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
names "Renardum…comes Ioviniaci…et Rogerum Ioveville domnum"
as the two sons of "Iovevillam Gaufridus secundus,
tertius…eiusdem loci domnus"[234]. Pibon Bishop of Toul recalls donations made to Saint-Mansuy,
among others those by "Arnoul chanoine de Verdun et Blanche dame de Joinville", with the consent of their heirs "Etienne clerc, le comte Renard et Roger son jeune frère", by charter dated
29 May 1103[235].
Seigneur de Joinville. "Roger seigneur de Joinville et
Geoffroy son fils", with the consent of "Audiard femme de Roger", renounced rights over the abbey of Saint-Urbain by charter dated
1132[236].
"Roger de Joinville, sa femme et Geoffroy leur fils"
witnessed a charter dated 1137 under which Geoffroy Bishop of Châlons confirmed
the foundation of the commanderie du Temple, at Ruetz by "Haton de Hatoncourt"[237].
mALDEARDE de Vignory,
daughter of GUY [III] Seigneur de Vignory & his wife Beatrix de Bourgogne [Capet] (-1137 or after). The Chronicle
of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Rogerus de Iovevilla Gaufridi filius" as "Guidonis sororem de
Vangionis rivo"[238].
"Roger seigneur de Joinville et Geoffroy son fils",
with the consent of "Audiard femme de Roger", renounced rights
over the abbey of Saint-Urbain by charter dated 1132[239]. "Roger de Joinville, sa femme et Geoffroy leur
fils" witnessed a charter dated 1137 under which Geoffroy Bishop of
Châlons confirmed the foundation of the commanderie du Temple, at Ruetz by
"Haton de Hatoncourt"[240]. Roger & his wife had [six] children:

a)GUILLAUMEde Joinville (-[before 1132]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis
Guillelmi" as son of "Rogerum Ioveville domnum"[241]. His absence from his father's charter dated 1132 suggests that Guillaume may have died before that date.

i)GEOFFROY [IV] de Joinville (-Acre Aug 1190). "Geoffroy de Joinville", with the consent of "Félicité sa femme, de Geoffroy son
fils, d'Audiard sa mère, de Gui archidiacre de Langres et de Robert, ses frères, ainsi que de sa sœur N", founded a priory for women at Val d'Osne, responsible to the abbaye de Molesmes, by charter dated to [1140/46][257]. Seigneur de Joinville.

iii)GERTRUDEde Joinville (-1181 or after).
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Gaufridum, Vaslerum et Gertrudem"
as children of "Gaufridum Grossum" & his wife,
specifying that Gertrude was mother of "comitis Hugonis Wandanimontis"[259]. "Gaufridus Jovisville dominus, comitis
Henrici senescaldus" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by
charter dated 1157 in which he names "pater meus Rogerus…Felicitate
uxore mea et filio meo Gaufrido, filia quoque Gertrude"[260]. The bishop of Toul confirmed the act by which "Geoffroy
seigneur de Joinville", with the agreement of "Geoffroy son
fils et de la comtesse de Vaudémont sa fille", founded the abbey of
Ecurey, by charter dated 1168[261]. Pierre Bishop of Toul confirmed the
donation of “le lieu de Tontigny auparavant appartenant à l’héritage de
Morivlle...” made to Flabémont by “conte Gerard de Vauldemont”, with
the consent of “Gertrude sa femme et de Hugues son filz et autres leurs
héritiers...et de Odon son frère archidiacre” by charter dated 1172[262]. m as his first wife, GERARD [II] Comte de Vaudémont, son of
HUGUES [I] Comte de Vaudémont & his wife Aigeline de Bourgogne (-1188, bur Morimond).

iv)GUILLEMETTE de Joinville . A charter dated to before 1204 requested the comte de Champagne to regularise the appointment of "Guillemette de Joinville, tante
de Geoffroy de Joinville" as abbess of Avenay[263]. Abbess of Avenay 1176/1204.

d)GUYde Joinville (-1190). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
names (in order) "Gaufridum Grossum Robertum et Guidonem
episcopum Cathalaunensem et Beatricem comitissam de Grandiprato" as
children of "Rogerus de Iovevilla Gaufridi filius"
& his wife[267].
Archdeacon at Langres [1145]. "Geoffroy de Joinville",
with the consent of "Félicité sa femme, de Geoffroy son fils, d'Audiard
sa mère, de Gui archidiacre de Langres et de Robert, ses frères, ainsi que de
sa sœur N", founded a priory for women at Val d'Osne, responsible to
the abbaye de Molesmes, by charter dated to [1140/46][268]. Bishop of
Châlons 1164. The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the
succession in 1164 of “Guido episcopus”[269]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the election
in 1163 of "Guido de Iovevilla frater Gaufridi filius
Rogeri" as Bishop of Châlons[270]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in 1163 that "alter Guido de
Iovevilla frater Gaufridi filius Rogeri" was elected "apud Cathalaunum"
and held office for 28 years[271].
The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1190 of “Guido
episcopus Catalaunensis”[272].
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines records in 1190 the death of "episcopus Cathalaunensis
Guido" and the election of “in episcopum Rotrocus de Pertico regis
Francorum consobrinus”[273].

e)[daughter . "Geoffroy de Joinville", with the consent of "Félicité sa femme, de Geoffroy son
fils, d'Audiard sa mère, de Gui archidiacre de Langres et de Robert, ses frères, ainsi que de sa sœur N", founded a priory for women at Val d'Osne, responsible to the abbaye de Molesmes, by charter dated to [1140/46][274]. It is not known whether this daughter was the same person as
Beatrix who is named below.]

f)BEATRIXde Joinville. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Gaufridum Grossum Robertum et Guidonem episcopum Cathalaunensem et Beatricem
comitissam de Grandiprato" as children of "Rogerus de Iovevilla Gaufridi filius" & his wife[275]. No other source has been identified which records Beatrix as the
wife of a Comte de Grandpré. If Alberic is correct, the chronology suggests
that Beatrix’s husband was Henri [II] Comte de Grandpré, possibly as his first
wife. [m as his [first] wife, HENRI [II] Comte de Grandpré, son of HENRI
[I] Comte de Grandpré et de Porcien & his wife
Ermentrude de Joux [Grandson] (-[1188/90], bur Foigny).]

4.HAWISE de Joinville (-after 1141). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
names "Hadewidem de Asperomonte" as the daughter of
"Iovevillam Gaufridus secundus, tertius…eiusdem loci
domnus"[276].
She was co-founder of the abbey of Riéval in 1141[277]. Henri Bishop of Toul confirmed the donation of property “Romundicuria”
to Riéval made by “Petro de Brisseio et a Leucharde de Umplona filiisque et
filiabus eius et a domina Hadewide de Asperomonte filiisque eius” by
charter dated 9 Mar 1141 (O.S.?)[278]. “Leucharde de Umplona” and her sons and daughters have not
otherwise been identified, but presumably she and Hawide d’Aspremont held the
property donated jointly with Pierre de Brixey, presumably by inheritance maybe
through the Reynel family from whom both Hawide and Pierre de Brixey were
descended. mGOBERT [III] Seigneur d'Aspremont,
son of THIERRY de Briey Seigneur d'Aspremont et de Rouvres & his wife
Hadwige d'Aspremont (-before 1141).

5.daughter . m
(before [1089/93]) WARNER, son of ---.
"Gaufredus de Junccivilla" is named in a charter dated
to [1089/90]/1093] which records that "defuncto filius eius Gaufredus"
donated property to the abbey of Molesme, subscribed by "Warnerio gener
eius"[279].

GEOFFROY [IV] de Joinville,
son of GEOFFROY [III] Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-Acre Aug 1190). "Geoffroy de Joinville", with the consent of "Félicité sa femme, de Geoffroy son fils, d'Audiard sa mère, de Gui archidiacre de Langres et de Robert, ses frères, ainsi que de sa sœur N", founded a priory for women at Val d'Osne, responsible to the abbaye de Molesmes, by charter dated to [1140/46][280]. "Gaufridus Jovisville dominus, comitis
Henrici senescaldus" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by
charter dated 1157 in which he names "pater meus Rogerus…Felicitate
uxore mea et filio meo Gaufrido, filia quoque Gertrude"[281]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Gaufridum, Vaslerum et
Gertrudem" as children of "Gaufridum Grossum"
& his wife[282]. The
bishop of Toul confirmed the act by which "Geoffroy seigneur de Joinville", with the agreement of "Geoffroy son fils et de la
comtesse de Vaudémont sa fille", founded the abbey of Ecurey, by
charter dated 1168[283].
"Simon Seigneur de Beaufort" donated property to the
abbey of Andecy by charter dated 1182 subscribed by "Geoffroy Seigneur de Joinville son frère, Pierre chapelain du Sire de Broyes également son frère"[284]. Seigneur de Joinville. “Gaufridus dominus Jonisvalle
frater Hugonis domini Brec.” donated “vineam...ad Mucei” to
Saint-Urbain monastery, for the anniversary of “patris mei Gaufridi”, by
charter dated 1188[285].
“Gaufridus dominus Jovisvillæ frater Hugonis Brecensis” donated property
to the priory of Saint-Jacques, referring to “patris mei Gaufridi”, with
the consent of “Helvide uxoris mee et...Gaufridi et Roberti filiorum meorum”,
by charter dated 1188[286].
“Gaufridus Joniville dominus frater Hugonis Brecensis” confirmed
previous donations to Joinville Saint-Laurent and, with “Heluydis uxor mea et
Gaufridus filius meus et alii filii mei”, agreed not to build another
chapel at the castle by charter dated 1188[287]. “Gaufridus Jonville dominus” confirmed the use of property
near Vaucouleurs to Evaux abbey by charter dated 1189[288]. The date of his death is confirmed by the charter dated 1190 of
his son Geoffroy [V] and his death at the siege of Acre confirmed by his son’s
the charter dated 1192 (see below).

mHELVIDE de Dampierre,
daughter of GUY [I] de Dampierre Seigneur de Dampierre,
de Saint-Dizier et de Moeslain, Vicomte de Troyes
& his wife Helvide de
Baudémont (-before May 1196). “Gaufridus dominus
Jovisvillæ frater Hugonis Brecensis” donated property to the priory of
Saint-Jacques, referring to “patris mei Gaufridi”, with the consent of “Helvide
uxoris mee et...Gaufridi et Roberti filiorum meorum”, by charter dated 1188[289]. “Gaufridus Joniville dominus frater Hugonis Brecensis”
confirmed previous donations to Joinville Saint-Laurent and, with “Heluydis
uxor mea et Gaufridus filius meus et alii filii mei”, agreed not to build
another chapel at the castle by charter dated 1188[290]. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire de Joinville senechal de
Champagne" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt with the consent
of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his brothers Guillaume archdeacon of
Chalons, Robert and Simon by charter dated 1191[291]. His death at that time is confirmed by the charter of his son
Geoffroy [V] dated 1191 (see below). “Gaufridus dominus Joniville
senescallus Campanie” confirmed previous donations to Sept-Fontaines abbey,
for the soul of “felicis memorie...matris mee”, by charter dated May
1196[292].

Geoffroy [IV] & his wife had seven
children:

1.GEOFFROY [V] de Joinville (-[Acre]
[1203/04]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus,
Robertus, Symon et Guido milites et Guilelmus clericus" as five
brothers "apud Ionevillam", recording that "Gaufridus
maior natu cognomento Trullardus" joined the Crusade and died overseas[293]. “Gaufridus dominus Jovisvillæ frater Hugonis Brecensis”
donated property to the priory of Saint-Jacques, referring to “patris mei
Gaufridi”, with the consent of “Helvide uxoris mee et...Gaufridi et
Roberti filiorum meorum”, by charter dated 1188[294]. “Gaufridus Joniville dominus frater Hugonis Brecensis”
confirmed previous donations to Joinville Saint-Laurent and, with “Heluydis
uxor mea et Gaufridus filius meus et alii filii mei”, agreed not to build
another chapel at the castle by charter dated 1188[295]. Seigneur de Joinville. “Gaufridus dominus Joniville et
Helvis mater mea” donated “domum Dei...Joniville” to the chapter of
Joinville Saint-Laurent by charter dated 1190[296]. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire de Joinville senechal de
Champagne" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt with the
consent of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his brothers Guillaume
archdeacon of Chalons, Robert and Simon by charter dated 1191[297]. “Gaufridus Joniville dominus” notified that “Gaufridus
pater noster, in obsidione Anconensi ultra mare contra Saladinum principem
Turcorum facta defunctus” had renounced “gistum de Landevilla” in
favour of Saint-Urbain by charter dated 1192[298]. Sénéchal de Champagne. “Gaufridus dominus Joniville
senescallus Campanie” confirmed previous donations to Sept-Fontaines abbey,
for the soul of “felicis memorie...matris mee”, by charter dated May
1196[299].
Villehardouin names "Geoffroy de Joinville, Seneschal of Champagne, and his brother Robert" among those who joined the Fourth Crusade in
1199[300].
“Gaufridus de Ioinvilla Campaniæ senescallus” offered guarantees to
Blanche comtesse de Champagne relating to property which her husband had
granted to “consanguineo meo Eustachio de Conflans” and which she had
returned to “Guidoni de Plaisseto fratri eiusdem Eustachii”, and “Maria
uxor præfati Eustachii et Guido frater eius” confirmed, by charter dated
Aug 1201[301].
"Gaufridus dominus Joinville senescalcus Campanie" donated
land for the monastery at Mathons by charter dated 1201[302]. The date and place of his death are confirmed by the charter of
his brother Simon dated 1204 (see below).

2.ROBERTde Joinville (-Apulia [before 1203]). The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus, Robertus, Symon et Guido milites et Guilelmus clericus" as five brothers "apud Ionevillam",
recording that that Robert pursued Gauthier de Brienne into Apulia where he
died in [1205][303].
“Gaufridus dominus Jovisvillæ frater Hugonis Brecensis” donated property
to the priory of Saint-Jacques, referring to “patris mei Gaufridi”, with
the consent of “Helvide uxoris mee et...Gaufridi et Roberti filiorum meorum”,
by charter dated 1188[304].
Seigneur de Sailly. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire de Joinville senechal
de Champagne" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt with the
consent of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his brothers Guillaume
archdeacon of Chalons, Robert and Simon by charter dated 1191[305]. Villehardouin names "Geoffroy de Joinville,
Seneschal of Champagne, and his brother Robert" among those who joined
the Fourth Crusade in 1199[306].
The primary source which confirms the date and place of his death has not been
identified. Assuming that Robert was his father’s second son, as indicated by
Alberic, he presumably predeceased his older brother Geoffroy as there is not
record of Robert succeeding to or claiming the seigneurie de Joinville.

3.GUILLAUMEde Joinville (-Saint-Fleur 6 Nov 1226, bur Saint-Fleur). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
names "Gaufridus, Robertus, Symon et Guido milites et Guilelmus
clericus" as five brothers "apud Ionevillam",
recording that Guillaume became "Cathalauensis archidyaconus"[307]. Archdeacon at Chalons 1191. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire
de Joinville senechal de Champagne" donated property to the abbey of
Boulancourt with the consent of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his
brothers Guillaume archdeacon of Chalons, Robert and Simon by charter dated
1191[308].
Bishop of Langres 1208. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
records the death in 1208 of “episcopus Robertus Lingonensis qui post
Hilduinum prefuit” and the succession of “Guilelmus de Iovevilla”[309]. Archbishop of Reims
1219. The Chronicle of Alberic
de Trois-Fontaines records the installation “V Id Jun” 1219 of “Guilelmus
episcopus Lingonensis frater Symonis de Iovevilla” as archbishop of Reims and the succession of “Hugo...filius Anserici de Monteregali” as bishop of
Langres[310].
The Annales Sancti Nicasii Remenses record the death in 1218 of "Albricus
Remensis archiepiscopus" and the succession of "Guillelmus de
Iomvilla"[311].
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines records the death “apud Sanctum Florum...Non Nov” 1226
of “archiepiscopus Guilelmus Remensis” and his burial “cum monachis
in cemiterio”[312].
The Annales Sancti Nicasii Remenses record the death in 1226 of "domnus
Guillelmus de Iomvilla Remensis archiepiscopus"[313].

5.FELICITEde Joinville (-1240 or
after). "Geoffroy
seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne", with the consent of
"ses frères Robert, Guillaume et Simon, et de sa sœur Félicité",
confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Crête, by charter dated 1195[315]. Her presence in this charter suggests that she was probably older
than her brothers Guy and André who are not named in it. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been
identified. “Henricus de Fouvenz...Agnes uxor dicti Henrici de Fouvenz”
confirmed that “dominus Petrus de Borlenmont” donated property to the
churches of Frebecourt and Bourlemont, with the consent of “Felicitatis
uxoris sue et Symonis fratris sui...domino Symone de Joinvilla”, by charter
dated 1211[316].
The Feoda Campanie dated [1222/43] includes “...Felicitas
domina de Borlemont…” in Feoda Varia[317]. m ([1200]) PIERRE [III] Seigneur de
Bourlémont, son of SIMON [II] Seigneur de Bourlémont & his
wife Agnes de Broyes (-[1225/27]).

6.GUYde Joinville (-after Feb [1249]). The
Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus, Robertus,
Symon et Guido milites et Guilelmus clericus" as five brothers "apud
Ionevillam", recording that Guy became "domnus de Salleio"[318]. Seigneur de Sailly. “Symon dominus Jonville senescallus
Campanie” consented to “frater meus Guido dominus Salliaci" holding
"villam…Donjues" from "domino meo Theobaldo comite
Campanie" by charter dated Jun 1215[319]. "Gui s. de Sailly" donated “le fief de
Poissons, qu’il avait acheté à Hugues de Fronville” to the monks of
Saint-Urbain by charter dated Feb 1248 (O.S.?)[320]. m [firstly] AGNES,
daughter of --- (-[1220/21]). "Gui de Joinville s. de Sailly"
donated property to Ecurey, for the souls of himself “sa femme Agnès, de son
père Geoffroy et de sa mère Héluis”, by charter dated Apr 1220[321]. The wording of this extract, linking his wife’s soul to his own,
suggests that she was alive at the date of the donation. [m secondly (before 1221) [PETRONILLE] de Chappes
dame de Jully-sur-Sarce et de Champlost, daughter of GUY de Chappes & his
wife Pétronille de Brienne. The sources quoted below indicate the family
origin of the wife of Guy de Joinville Seigneur de Sailly, but there is doubt
about whether he married once or twice. Père Anselme states that "Guy
de Joinville Seigneur de Sailly" married "Peronnelle de
Chappes dame de Juilly et de Chanlot", daughter of “Guy de Chappes”,
but does not cite the primary source on which he bases this information[322]. Père Anselme’s statement appears to represent the only mention of
this name. Guy’s unnamed wife is indicated in the following two charters.
Firstly, "Gui de Sailly et Eudes Ragot son beau-frère"
consented to the countess Blanche’s restoration of rights “que Gui de
Chappes avait supprimés dans la forêt de Foolz” by charter dated Dec 1221[323]. Secondly, "Gui de Sailly" swore homage to
Blanche Ctss de Champagne “du fief de Jully-sur-Sarce qui lui était échu du
fait de sa femme” by charter dated 1221[324]. If Anselme incorrectly recorded the name Pétronille, it is
possible that both these documents refer to Guy’s [first] wife Agnes who, in
line with Anselme’s statement, could have been the daughter of Guy de
Chappes.] Guy & his wife had [five] children:

a)[MARGUERITE
(-after Jul 1259). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not
been identified. The two charters quoted below show that Marguerite was the
sister of Robert de Joinville Seigneur de Sailly. There are two possibilities:
either she was his full sister, married to “--- de Beaumont”, or she was his
uterine sister born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of their
mother to “--- de Beaumont”. "Robert d. de Sailly" declared
himself vassal “du seigneur de Joinville por Sailly” and other
properties between Montéclair and Saint-Dizier, except land held by “sa sœur
Marguerite de Beaumont...à Bettoncourt”, by charter dated Jun 1256[325]. "Jean s. de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne"
notified that “son cousin Robert de Sailly” declared that “Marguerite
de Beaumont sa sœur” had donated “à Benoîtevaux ce qu’elle avait à
Bettoncourt” by charter dated Jul 1259[326]. m --- de Beaumont, son of ---.]

b)ROBERT de Joinville (-before Dec 1269, bur Ecurey). Seigneur de Sailly. "Robert
de Joinville s. de Sailly" notified a donation “au Val d’Osne”
made by “Hugues d’Effincourt” by charter dated Jul 1254[327]. "Jean s. de Joinville" declared that “Robert
de Joinville s. de Sailly et Aufélis sa femme” had granted freedoms to “leurs
hommes de Sailly” by charter dated Feb 1259 (O.S.?)[328]. "Robert de Joinville s. de Sailly" exchanged
serfs with Saint-Urbain by charter dated May 1265[329]. "Jean s. de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne"
declared that on his deathbed “Robert de Sailly” had donated produce
from a mill at Pincelay to Ecurey where he would be buried, with the consent of
“Aufélis sa femme et de Gui son fils”, by charter dated Dec 1269[330]. mAUFELIS, daughter of ---. "Jean s. de
Joinville" declared that “Robert de Joinville s. de Sailly et
Aufélis sa femme” had freed “leurs hommes de Sailly” by charter
dated Feb 1259 (O.S.?)[331].
Père Anselme states that “Auneix“, wife of Robert de Joinville Seigneur
de Sailly, made her testament in 1278 (no source citation)[332]. Robert & his wife had three children:

i)GUY de Sailly (-after Aug 1304). "Jean
s. de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne" declared that on his deathbed “Robert
de Sailly” had donated produce from a mill at Pincelay to Ecurey where he
would be buried, with the consent of “Aufélis sa femme et de Gui son fils”,
by charter dated Dec 1269[333].
Seigneur de Sailly. Père Anselme states that “Guy de Joinville seigneur de
Sailly“ donated “vingt sols de rente” to Ecurey, with the consent of
“sa femme Marguerite”, by charter dated 1274 (no source citation)[334]. “Guis de Jenville sires de Sailley...cum Marguerite ma feme
qui fut feme mon signor Phelippe de Chaunerei” sold “Meleir“ to
Thibaut Comte de Bar by charter dated 29 Oct 1287[335]. "Guy de Joinville s. de Sailly" donated property
at Bure to “Aubry de Fouchières” by charter dated Aug 1304[336]. m (before 1274) as her
second husband, MARGUERITE d’Oiselay,
widow of PHILIPPE Seigneur de Chavirey,
daughter of ETIENNE [I] Seigneur d’Oiselay & his wife Clémence de Faucogney
(-after 29 Oct 1287). Her parentage and two marriages
are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[337].Faget de Casteljau names her “Marguerite d’Oiselay” when
recording the charter dated 29 Oct 1287, quoted below[338]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been
identified. Père Anselme states that “Guy de Joinville seigneur de Sailly“
donated “vingt sols de rente” to Ecurey, with the consent of “sa
femme Marguerite”, by charter dated 1274 (no source citation)[339]. Her two marriages are confirmed by the
following document: “Guis de Jenville sires de
Sailley...cum Marguerite ma feme qui fut feme mon signor Phelippe de Chaunerei”
sold “Meleir“ to Thibaut Comte de Bar by charter dated 29 Oct 1287[340]. Guy & his wife had [one child]:

(a)[ALIX
(-27 Oct 1311, bur Morimond).
Dame de Sailly. Père Anselme names “Alix de Joinville dame de Sailly” as
daughter of “Guy de Joinville seigneur de Sailly“, adding that she
married “Renaud ou Renard de Choiseul seigneur de Bourbonne” (no source
citation)[341].
The primary source which confirms this parentage has not been identified,
although if it is correct that her daughter’s son succeeded as Seigneur de
Sailly (see CHOISEUL), it is likely that Père Anselme was right. The letter
dated 4 Feb 1661, recording epitaphs then in the church of Morimond, includes “Alix
Dame de Sully [error for Sailly?] et de Borbonne et ses fils
Jehans” who died “1311 la vigile de Saint Simon et Saint Jude”[342]. m as his first wife, RAYNARD
de Choiseul Seigneur de Bourbonne, son
of JEAN [I] Seigneur de Choiseul & his [first] wife Bartholomette [Alix]
d’Aigremont (-after 20 Apr 1334, bur Morimond).]

ii)BEATRIX de Sailly (-after 11 May 1271). Nun at Foissy. "Alix de Sailly
prieure de Foissy-lès-Troyes" declared that “Jean s. de Joinville
sénéchal de Champagne” had donated revenue to “sa cousine Béatrix de
Sailly religieuse à Foissy fille de Robert de Sailly frère d’Alix” by
charter dated 11 May 1271[343].

d)GUILLAUME de Joinville (-after 21 May 1290). The
primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. Père
Anselme names him “Guillaume de Joinville seigneur de Juilly, fils de Guy de
Joinville seigneur de Sailly“, without mentioning the primary source on
which he bases this information[351]. Seigneur de Jully. “Messires Guillaumes sires de Julli, le
vidame de Chaalons, messires Gautiers de Joinville…Jehan de Joinville et
Ansiaus de Traignel” acted as guarantors for “Jehan de Chapes escuier”
in a court action dated [21 May] 1290[352]. mMARIE de Tanlay,
daughter of ROBERT de Courtenay Seigneur de Tanlay & his wife Marguerite de
Ravières (-after 1276). Père Anselme names her as wife of “Guillaume de
Joinville seigneur de Juilly, fils de Guy de Joinville seigneur de Sailly“,
adding that the couple were living together in 1276 (no source citation)[353]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has
not been identified. Guillaume & his wife had one child:

i)JEAN de Joinville (-after Jul 1321). The
primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. Seigneur
de Jully. "Jean de Joinville s. de Jully" donated “un
courtil sis à Troyes près la petite Tannerie” to “une bourgeoisie de
Troyes, comme à celle à qui nous sommes tenu en plus grant chose” by
charter dated Jul 1321[354].
m --- de Conflans,
daughter of EUSTACHE de Conflans Seigneur de Moreuil & his wife --- de
Soissons. The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in [1350], records
that “Eustasses, fils du connestable” and his wife “la fille le comte
de Soissons” had “grande lignée de fils et filles”, but that of all
the daughters only one was married, “au seigneur de Jully”[355]. If that is correct, the chronology suggests that her husband was
Jean de Joinville Seigneur de Jully.

e)ALIX de Joinville (-after 11 May 1271). Prioress of Foissy. "Alix de Sailly
prieure de Foissy-lès-Troyes" declared that “Jean s. de Joinville
sénéchal de Champagne” had donated revenue to “sa cousine Béatrix de
Sailly religieuse à Foissy fille de Robert de Sailly frère d’Alix” by
charter dated 11 May 1271[357].

SIMON
de Joinville, son of GEOFFROY [IV] Seigneur de Joinville & his wife
Helvide de Dampierre (-May 1233). The
Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridus, Robertus,
Symon et Guido milites et Guilelmus clericus" as five brothers "apud
Ionevillam", recording that Simon obtained Joinville[359]. "Geofroi V Trouillard Sire de Joinville senechal de
Champagne" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt with the
consent of his mother Helvide de Dampierre and his brothers Guillaume
archdeacon of Chalons, Robert and Simon by charter dated 1191[360]. Seigneur de Joinville. “Symon Joniville dominus”
donated rights “in passagio et in venta Joniville” to Joinville
Saint-Laurent, for the anniversary of “fratris mei Gaufridi bone memorie”
who died “apud Acram”, by charter dated 1204[361]. "Simon de Joinville" confirmed his
father's previous donations to the monastery at Mathons by charter dated 1206[362]. “Simon miles...dominus de Joinville” donated “patronatum
ecclesiæ de Faverchinis” to Floreffe, with the consent of “uxoris meæ
Ermengardis filiæ domini Johannis de Monte Claro”, by charter dated 20 Jun
1210[363].
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that Erard de Brienne
captured the castle of Joinville from Simon in early 1216[364]. Seneschal of Champagne. “Symon dominus Joviville senescallus
Campanie” renounced claims “super riveria de Blesa” in favour of
Montiérender abbey by charter dated 1214[365]. “Symon dominus Joniville et senescallus Campanie”
renounced rights in favour of Ecurey abbey by charter dated 1218[366]. Disputes between Simon de Joinville and the count of Champagne
were settled by agreement dated 7 Jun 1218, under which Simon pledged to help
Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne and his mother Ctss Blanche against Erard de
Brienne, in return for recognition of his hereditary right to the sénéchaussée
de Champagne[367].
“Symon dominus Jovisville seneschallus Campanie” swore homage to “comes
Barri” for property “apud Buincuriam et Robancuriam et Bures et
Baincuriam et Germaium et Juvigneis” by charter dated 21 Dec 1221[368]. “Symon dominus Joniville senescallus Campanie”
acknowledged holding “castrum de Marnai” as a fief from Hugues Duke of
Burgundy, with the consent of “Beatricis uxoris mee”, by charter dated
late-Sep 1230[369].
“Symon dominus Joniville seneschallus Campanie” donated property to Joinville
Saint-Laurent for his own anniversary by charter dated Feb 1232 (O.S.)[370]. The year of his death is set by the charter of his widow dated
1233 in which he is named as deceased (see below).

m secondly (before 1224) as her second husband, BEATRIX d'Auxonne,
divorced wife of AIMON [II] Seigneur de Faucigny, daughter
of ETIENNE [III] Comte d'Auxonne [Bourgogne-Comté] & his wife Beatrix de
Chalon (-11 Apr 1260, bur La Charité). Her first and
second marriages are indicated by the testament of her daughter "Agnetis
dominæ Fuciniaci", dated 9 Aug 1268, which made bequests to "dominæ
Beatrici dominæ de Thoria et Villario sorori suæ et filiis suis…Simoni de
Joinville dom. de Jaiz fratri suo"[377]. Her parentage is indicated by the charter
dated Jul 1225 under which "Simon seigneur de Joinville,
sénéchal de Champagne" reached an agreement with "Jean de Chalon son beau-frère", by charter dated Jul 1225[378]. It is confirmed by the charter dated 1227 under which "Simon de Joinville, comme mari de Béatrix, fille d'Etienne comte d'Auxonne et
de Béatrix comtesse de Chalon" swore homage to the duke of Burgundy for the château de Marnay[379].
Dame de Marnay. "Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "sa femme
Béatrix", by charter dated 1224[380]. “Beatrix de Joinville senechalesse de Champagne et...Hues
chevaliers de Fronville” judged a dispute involving Evaux abbey which was
to be settled by “nostre sire Simon de bonne mémoire ça en ariers sire de
Joinville” by charter dated 1233[381]. "Beatrix dame de Joinville executrice
testamentaire de Simon sire de Joinville son mari mort l'année précédente"
donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt by charter dated Feb 1235[382]. “Jehans cuens de Bourgoingne et sires de Salins” confirmed
the donation to the abbey of la Charité made by “Beatris ma suer dame de
Marnay” and by “Simon son fil seignour de Jays” by charter dated Dec
1255[383].
The necrology of the abbey of La Charité records the death “XIII Kal Apr” 1260 of “Beatricis filiæ comitis Stephani
in conventu dominæ de Mernay”[384].

2.ISABELLEde Joinville (-1268 or after).
"Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne"
donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "sa femme Ermengart,
de son fils Geoffroy, de ses filles Isabelle et Béatrix", by charter
dated 1216[390].
Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1235 under which "Simon sire de Clefmont" declared that his "beau-père Simon de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" granted dowry to "sa fille Elisabeth", by charter dated 1235[391].
"Elisabeth domina de Montcleir" sold property in Clervaux to
"consanguineo meo domino Symoni de Spanheim" by charter dated
1240[392].
"Elisabeth, veuve de Simon de Clefmont" donated
property to Ecurey, with the consent of her children, for the soul of "son
frère Geoffroy, enterré en cette abbaye", by charter dated 1242[393]. m (before 1229) SIMON [IV] Seigneur de Clefmont, son of SIMON [III] Seigneur de Clefmont & his wife Beatrix de
Champlitte (-Oct 1238).

3.BEATRIXde Joinville (-before May 1249).
"Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne"
donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "sa femme Ermengart,
de son fils Geoffroy, de ses filles Isabelle et Béatrix", by charter
dated 1216[394].
Her marriage is indicated by the charter dated 5 Feb 1258 under which "Jean de Thorote châtelain de Noyon et Anseau de Traînel maréchal de Champagne"
declared that "Hugues chevalier vidame de Châlons et Gui de Clefmont chevalier" wished to maintain the agreement dated 1249 and requested
"leur oncle sénéchal de Champagne…" to seal the act[395]. mGUERMOND
Vidame de Châlons, son of --- (-after Feb 1233).

5.GEOFFROYde Joinville (-Trim 21 Oct
1314). "Jean seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne", with the advice of
"Béatrix, sa mère", confirmed donations of property to
Boulancourt by "Simon son père, de Geoffroy son oncle"
and promised support to the abbey if "Geoffroy, seigneur de Vaucouleurs,
son frère" troubled their possession, by charter dated Jul 1241[397]. Seigneur de Vaucouleurs.

JEAN
de Joinville, son of SIMON Seigneur de Joinville & his second wife Beatrix d'Auxonne [Bourgogne-Comté] ([1224/25]-24 Dec 1317, bur Saint-Laurent de Joinville). His birth date is estimated from his
explaining his absence from the battle of Taillebourg in 1242 “car je
n’avoie onques lors hauberc vestu” (indicating that he was not yet a
knight)[420],
bearing his mind his betrothal in 1230. His parentage is confirmed by a
charter dated Dec 1255 in which “Symons de Jenvile sires de Jay” names “mes
frères Jehans signour de Jenvile, senechaz de Campaigne et Joffroy de Jenvile
signor de Vauquelour”[421].
Seigneur de Joinville. “Jehans sires de
Joinville seneschaus de Champaigne” confirmed the donation of revenue “de
Syrefontaine” made to Mureau by “signours Thomas chevalier de
Braz...signour Perron son freire” and “Joffroi mon freire signour de
Vaucolor” by charter dated Aug 1255[422]. "Jean de Joinville",
with the consent of "sa femme Alix et de ses fils Geoffroy et Jean",
sold "la grange de Bailly..." to Ecurey abbey, by charter
dated 19 Oct 1266[423].
Historian of Louis IX King of France. The necrology of Joinville Saint-Laurent
records the deaths 11 Jul of "dominus Johannes dominus de Joinvilla
uxores eius et liberi ipsorum" and 24 Dec of "dominus Johannes
dominus de Joinvilla et domina Aelidis eius uxor domina de Rinello"
and their donations[424].
Considering the charter dated 15 Nov 1317 in which his son Anseau is described
as seigneur de Reynel (see below), the second date is to be preferred. The
year of Jean’s death is set by Anseau’s charter dated Jun 1318 in which he is
called seigneur de Joinville.

m firstly (Betrothed 11 Aug 1230, [1245]) ALIX de Grandpré,
daughter of HENRI [IV] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Marie de Garlande
(-before 1261, bur Benoîtevaux). "Simon seigneur de Joinville,
sénéchal de Champagne" declared that Thibaut IV Comte de Champagne had letters relating to the proposed marriage between "Jean, fils
de Simon et de Béatrix, fille d'Etienne comte d'Auxonne" and "Alix,
fille de Marie comtesse de Grandpré", by charter dated 11 Aug 1230[425]. Given Jean de Joinville’s estimated date of birth, it is unlikely
that this marriage took place before the mid-1340s. Barthélemy
records her burial “dans l’abbaye de Benoîtevaux”[426].

m secondly (before May 1262) ALIX de Reynel,
daughter of GAUTHIER Seigneur de Reynel & his wife --- (-before 1288).
"Jean de Joinville", with the consent of "sa
femme Alix de Reynel", confirmed donations made by "son
beau-père Gautier de Reynel" to Benoîtevaux, by charter dated May 1262[427]. "Jean de Joinville", with the consent of
"sa femme Alix et de ses fils Geoffroy et Jean", sold "la
grange de Bailly..." to Ecurey abbey, by charter dated 19 Oct 1266[428]. Her date of death is established by the charter dated 1288 under
which [her son] "Jean de Joinville s. de Reynel" reached
agreement with “son père Jean s. de Joinville” concerning “la terre
de Reynel qui lui était échu par la mort de sa mère”[429].

a)GEOFFROY [II] de Joinville (-Brindisi
1297). Charles II King of Naples
[Anjou-Capet] declared having paid "Geoffroy de Joinville et à ses
frères, fils et héritiers de feu Geoffroy de Joinville" for the
purchase of "la terre de S. Vinnemer près Lezinnes au comté de Tonnerre"
made by his father King Charles I, on condition that they paid a debt of the
late king owing to "Pierre Hose de la Forêt", by charter dated
11 Dec 1290[439].
Signore d’Alife [1291/92]. "Jean
de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne" declared having relinquished
revenue “sur la maison de Sommermont”, which he had granted to the “seigneur
de Briquenay lorsque celui-ci était parti pour la Pouille”, to “ses
petit-fils Jean de Joinville s. de Venafro maréchal de Sicile et Guillaume tous
deux fils de feu Geoffroy s. de Nanteuil et de Briquenay, ainsi qu’aux enfants
d’un autre Geoffroy leur frère”, with the consent of “ses fils Jean de
Joinville s. d’Ancerville, Anseau s. de Reynel chevaliers, André de Joinville
s. de Bonney écuyer”, by charter dated 9 Jun 1304[440]. m as her first husband, PHILIPPA
de Beaumont, daughter of PIERRE Seigneur de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais
Conte di Montescaglioso e Alba & his second wife Filippa di Ceccano
([1271/72]-after 1317). The primary sources which confirm her parentage and
two marriages have not been identified. She married secondly Renaud [II] Comte de Dammartin.

c)GUILLAUME de Joinville (-before Dec 1314). "Jean
de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne" declared having relinquished
revenue “sur la maison de Sommermont”, which he had granted to the “seigneur
de Briquenay lorsque celui-ci était parti pour la Pouille”, to “ses
petit-fils Jean de Joinville s. de Venafro maréchal de Sicile et Guillaume tous
deux fils de feu Geoffroy s. de Nanteuil et de Briquenay, ainsi qu’aux enfants
d’un autre Geoffroy leur frère”, with the consent of “ses fils Jean de
Joinville s. d’Ancerville, Anseau s. de Reynel chevaliers, André de Joinville
s. de Bonney écuyer”, by charter dated 9 Jun 1304[445]. Seigneur de Briquenay. "Jean Trouillard de Joinville
maréchal de Sicile et Guillaume de Joinville chevalier son frère" divided
their territories by charter dated 8 Sep 1307[446]. "Guillaume de Joinville s. de Briquenay" was
named as guarantor under a charter of Gaucher de Châtillon Comte de Porcien charter
dated Sep 1312[447].
m (before 1310) BEATRIX de Brienne Dame de Venisy et de Turny, daughter of ERARD de Brienne Seigneur de Ramerupt et de Venisy &
his wife --- (-after 1314). The primary source which confirms her parentage
and marriage has not been identified. Guillaume & his wife had one child:

i)ALIX de Joinville (-after 13 Feb [1356/57]). Pope John XXII granted indulgence to "Iohanni nato Iohannis
comitis de Saraponte militi" and “nobili mulieri Aelydi eius uxori
Met. dioc.”, dated 16 Apr 1331[448]. The primary source which confirms her
parentage has not been identified. However, it is indicated by her inheritance
of Briquenay (from her supposed father) and Venisy (from her supposed mother).
Dame de Venisy, de Chailley et de Briquenay. A charter dated 28 Apr 1348
records a dispute between "les Hospitaliers de Coulours" and “Alix
de Joinville dame de Venizy et de Briquenay”[449]. "Alix de Joinville dame de Venizy et de Briquenay"
appointed “son fils Simon de Sarrebrück s. de Commercy” as her proxy to
negotiate a settlement with “les Hospitaliers de Coulours” by charter
dated 30 Dec 1348[450].
This document shows that her son Simon had already reached the age of majority,
so must have been at least 18 years old. If that is correct, the charter dated
16 Apr 1331 quoted above must refer to Johann’s wife Alix de Joinville. Dumont
records that, after the death of her oldest son Simon, his mother and his
brothers founded the “Chapelle de la Vente” by charter dated 13 Feb 1356
(O.S.?) in accordance with his last wishes[451]. m (before 16 Apr 1331) JOHANN von Saarbrücken
Seigneur de Commercy, son of JOHANN [I] Graf
von Saarbrücken [Commercy] & his first wife Mathilde d'Aspremont (-1344).

3.MARGUERITEde Joinville (-before 24 Dec
1306). "Jean s. de
Joinville" donated property to Saint-Laurent for the anniversary of “feu
sa fille Marguerite dame de Charny” by charter dated 24 Dec 1306[457]. "Jean s. de Joinville" approved the donation to
Joinville Saint-Laurent made by “André de Joinville s. de Bonney” for
the souls of “sa mère Alix de Reynel, de son frère Gautier s. de Beaupré et
de sa sœur Marguerite dame de Charny” by charter dated 7 May 1309[458]. This document, linked to Alix de Reynel, suggests that Marguerite
was born from her father’s second marriage. mDREUX Seigneur
de Charny, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Charny & his wife ---
(-after 1272).

4.JEANde Joinville (-2 Mar 1301, bur église de
Donjeux). Seigneur de Reynel. "Jean de Joinville s. de Reynel"
reached agreement with “son père Jean s. de Joinville” concerning “la
terre de Reynel qui lui était échu par la mort de sa mère” by charter dated
1288[459]. "Jean s. de Joinville" exchanged property “à
Manois pour le profit de ses enfants Jean baron de Reynel et Ansel s. de
Rimacourt” by charter dated 1299[460]. The necrology of Saint-Laurent de Joinville records the death 2
Mar of Jean de Joinville Seigneur de Reynel[461]. The year of his death is set by the charter dated May 1301 in
which his brother Anseau is named as Seigneur de Reynel (see below).

5.ANSEAUde Joinville (-3 Jan
[1342/43], bur Saint-Laurent de Joinville).
The contract of marriage between Jean d’Arcis and Alix de Joinville is dated 3
May 1300 and names "son père…ses deux frères Jean sire d’Ancerville et
Ansel sire de Rimaucourt"[462]. Seigneur de Rimaucourt. "Jean s. de Joinville"
exchanged property “à Manois pour le profit de ses enfants Jean baron de
Reynel et Ansel s. de Rimacourt” by charter dated 1299[463]. The contract of marriage between Jean d’Arcis and Alix de
Joinville is dated 3 May 1300 and names "son père…ses deux frères Jean
sire d’Ancerville et Ansel sire de Rimaucourt"[464]. Seigneur de Reynel: "André de Joinville écuyer s. de
Bonney" acknowledged holding Bonney “en fief de son frère Anseau de
Joinville s. de Reynel” by charter dated May 1301[465]. "Jean de Joinville sénéchal de Champagne"
declared having relinquished revenue “sur la maison de Sommermont”,
which he had granted to the “seigneur de Briquenay lorsque celui-ci était
parti pour la Pouille”, to “ses petit-fils Jean de Joinville s. de
Venafro maréchal de Sicile et Guillaume tous deux fils de feu Geoffroy s. de
Nanteuil et de Briquenay, ainsi qu’aux enfants d’un autre Geoffroy leur frère”,
with the consent of “ses fils Jean de Joinville s. d’Ancerville, Anseau s.
de Reynel chevaliers, André de Joinville s. de Bonney écuyer”, by charter
dated 9 Jun 1304[466].
A charter dated 11 Jun 1308 records that "Jean s. de Joinville"
renounced rights “sur la garde de S. Urbain”, with the consent of “ses
fils Anseau de Joinville s. de Reynel et André de Joinville s. de Beaupré”[467]. A charter dated 15 Nov 1317 names "Anseau de Joinville s.
de Reynel" as an arbitrator in the dispute between Philippe V King of
France and Eudes Duke of Burgundy[468]. He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Joinville.
Philippe V King of France names "Anseau s. de Joinville", when
changing his revenue, by charter dated Jun 1318[469]. The charter dated 10 Jan 1344 quoted below shows that Anseau was
deceased. m firstly (before 24 Jul
1302) LAURETTE
von Saarbrücken, daughter of SIMON [III] de Commercy Graf von
Saarbrücken & his second wife Mathilde --- (-before 1323). Her parentage
and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 24 Jul 1302 under which “Ancel
de Joinville chevalier seigneur de Reynel” named “monseigneur Jean de
Commercy son serourge fils de...Simon comte de Sarrebruck” as guarantor to
Ferry Duke of Lorraine[470].
"Anseau de Joinville et Laure de Sarrebrück sa femme" founded
a chapel at Montiers-sur-Saulx which they donated to Ecurey abbey by charter
dated 1315[471].
m secondly (before 5 Jul 1323) MARGUERITE
de Vaudémont, daughter of HENRI [III] Comte de Vaudémont &
his wife Isabelle de Lorraine (-before 26 Dec 1334). Edouard Comte de Bar
declared himself prepared to repurchase "la terre de Bleurville",
donated by “Henri comte de Vaudémont” to “sa fille Marguerite” on
her marriage to “Anseau s. de Joinville”, by charter dated 5 Jul 1323[472]. "Anseau s. de Joinville et de Reynel sénéchal de
Champagne" donated property which he and “sa défunte femme Marguerite
de Vaudémont” had bought at Joinville to Saint-Laurent de Joinville, where
he also founded an anniversary for her, by charter dated 26 Dec 1334[473]. Anseau & his first wife had one child:

b)HENRIde Joinville ([1327]-[6 Jun/4 Jul] 1365). Seigneur de Joinville. The Parlement of Paris ordered "Henri de Joinville"
to pay "à sa sœur Jeanne comtesse de Joigny veuve d’Aubert de Hangest"
the sum due “au jour de la rédaction du contrat de mariage de Jeanne avec
Aubert de Hangest seigneur de Genlis...daté du 20 novembre 1335” from the
succession of “Anseau de Joinville” by charter dated 10 Jan 1344[477]. Sénéchal de Champagne. Comte de Vaudémont: "Henri comte
de Vaudémont" and “Henri s. de Joinville et de Reynel sénéchal de
Champagne” agreed the conditions for the transfer of “[le] comté de
Vaudémont” to the latter by charter dated 30 Aug 1347[478]. Philippe Duke of Burgundy gave a mandate for payment in favour of
"s. de Pailly gruyer de Champagne de Brie", sent “au comte
de Vaudémont...”, by charter dated 6 Jun 1365[479]. Charles V King of France referred to "feu comte de
Vaudémont" in a document dated 4 Jul 1365[480]. m (Betrothed Aug 1344,
contact 19 May 1353) MARIE de Luxembourg,
daughter of JEAN de Luxembourg Seigneur de Ligny &
his first wife Alix de Flandre ([1331/35]-[8 Dec 1376/3 Jul 1381]). "Iehan de Lucembourc chastellain de Lille et sires de
Roussy...et feu Aalips de Flandres" confirmed obligations under the
contract for the marriage of “nostre ainsnée fille la dame de Joinville
comtesse de Vaudemont” by charter dated Mar 1348[481]. "Jean de Luxembourg châtelain de Lille et Henri s. de
Joinville comte de Vaudémont" agreed the payment of the promised dowry
under the marriage contract agreed between Henri and “Marie de Luxembourg
fille dudit châtelain” by charter dated 19 May 1353[482]. "Waleran de Luxembourg s. de Ligny et Jean de Luxembourg
son fils" agreed with “Henri s. de Joinville comte de Vaudémont”
the payment of the dowry of “Marie de Luxembourg...conformément aux termes
du traité de mariage conclu en août 1344” which should have been paid three
years earlier, by charter dated 25 May 1353[483]. "Jean comte de Salm" sold “les terres de Mussy,
Mathons et Morancourt” to “Marie de Luxembourg comtesse de Vaudémont”
by charter dated 28 Dec 1376[484].
She died before 3 Jun 1380, the date of the charter of her daughters in which
she is named as deceased (see below). Mistress (1):
---. The name of Henri's mistress is not known. Henri & his wife had four
children:

i)ANSEAU de Joinville (-young). Père Anselme
names “Henry et Ancel de Joinville, morts jeunes“ as the sons of Henri
de Joinville Comte de Vaudémont and his wife, without mentioning the primary
source on which he bases this information[485]. If it is correct, and in light of the probable birth date of
their sister Marguerite, it is likely that one of these sons was their parents’
oldest child.

ii)MARGUERITEde Joinville([1356]-28 Apr 1417, bur Joinville). Considering the date
of her first marriage, it is unlikely that Marguerite was born later than
[1356], although it should also be borne in mind that she had children by her
third husband whom she married in 1393. Dame de Joinville. Ctss de Vaudémont.
Her first marriage is dated from a charter dated “le lundi devant Pasques
flories” [5 Apr] 1367 (O.S./N.S.?) under which “Jehan de Bourgoingne
monsigneur signeur de Montaguy et de Joinville...conte de Wadémont” excused
“les hommes de la terre de Ruels, appartenant aux religieux de l’hôpital
saint Jehan de Jhérusalem” the obligation to guard Joinville castle[486]. A charter dated 5 Jul 1381 records that "Pierre comte de
Genève et Marguerite de Joinville comtesse de Vaudémont sa femme" and
“Thiébaut de Neufchâtel et d’Alix de Joinville sa femme” agreed 3 Jun
1380 the division “des meubles de feu Marie de Luxembourg mère desdites
Marguerite et Alix”[487].
The testament of "Marguerite comtesse de Genève et de Vaudémont dame de
Joinville", dated 25 Jun 1387, appointed “sa sœur Alix dame de
Neufchâtel” as her heir and bequeathed “la moitié des terres de
Morancourt, Mussy et Mathons, partageables avec Alix” to “Jean bâtard de
Vaudémont son frère”[488].
A charter dated 24 Jun 1392 records that "le pape Clément VII...come
comte de Genève" referred the dispute with “Marguerite de Joinville
veuve de Joinville”, concerning her dower, to arbitration[489]. “Ferry de Lorraine Cte de Vaudemont, Sgr de Joinville, Hue
d’Amboise Sgr de Chaumont-sur-Loire et Jac. de Hens Sgr de Ténorgues”, all
having rights “à la succession de feu Mre Jn de Joinville Sgr de Doulevant à
cause de leurs femmes”, reached agreement concerning land which “feu
Henry Cte de Vaudemont sire de Joinville” had assigned to “feu Jn de
Joinville” by charter dated 17 May 1394[490]. "Ferry de Lorraine et Marguerite de Joinville comte et
comtesse de Vaudémont, Antoine de Lorraine leur fils aîné, Jean bâtard de
Vaudémont" adhered to “l’institution de la confrérie de N. D. de
Sion” by charter dated 26 Dec 1396[491]. "Marguerite de Joinville comtesse de Vaudémont"
transferred rights “à Arnancourt” to “sa cousine Marguerite de
Joinville dame de Chaumont-sur-Loire” by charter dated 2 Jul 1416[492]. m firstly (before 5 Apr
1367) as his second wife, JEAN de Bourgogne Seigneur
de Montaigu, son of HENRI de Bourgogne [Capet] Seigneur de Montaigu & his second wife Isabelle de Thoire (-6 Dec 1373). m secondly (contract 2 May 1374) PIERRE Comte de Genève, son of AMEDEE III Comte de Genève &
his wife Mathilde de Boulogne [Auvergne] (-Avignon [24 Mar/24 Jun] 1392). m thirdly ([4 Jun/19
Jul] 1393) FERRY de Lorraine Seigneur de
Rumigny, son of JEAN I Duke of Lorraine & his wife Sophie von Württemberg ([1370]-killed in battle Agincourt 25 Oct
1415, bur Joinville).

iii)HENRI de Joinville (-young). Père Anselme names
“Henry et Ancel de Joinville, morts jeunes“ as the sons of Henri de
Joinville Comte de Vaudémont and his wife, without mentioning the primary
source on which he bases this information[493]. If it is correct, and in light of the probable marriage date of
their sister Alix which suggests that she was several younger than their sister
Marguerite, it is likely that one of these sons was their parents’ third
child.

c)ISABELLEde Joinville (-before [1355]). Her
parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 5 Jun 1348 under
which “Henrici domini de Ioinvilla militis” claimed “partagii
bonorum...defuncti Anselmi domini de Ioinville dictorum militis et Ysabellis
patris” from “Ioannem de Vergeio armigerum et Ysabellim de Ioinvilla
eius uxorem dictique militis sororem”[500]. m (before 5 Jun 1348) as
his first wife, JEAN de Vergy, son of GUILLAUME de Vergy Seigneur de Mirebeau & his first
wife Isabelle de Choiseul (-[1370]). Seigneur de Mirebeau after 1360.

6.GAUTHIERde Joinville (-before 11 Jun
1308). Seigneur de Beaupré. "Jean s. de Joinville" approved
the donation to Joinville Saint-Laurent made by “André de Joinville s. de
Bonney” for the souls of “sa mère Alix de Reynel, de son frère Gautier
s. de Beaupré et de sa sœur Marguerite dame de Charny” by charter dated 7
May 1309[501].
The date of his death is established by the charter dated 11 Jun 1308 which
names his brother André as Seigneur de Beaupré (see below).

This section illustrates the difficulty of
maintaining a strict geographical split of families in the later medieval
period when various seigneuries in different locations were inherited or
purchased by the same families. Vaucouleurs is located in the present-day
French département of Meuse, arrondissement Commercy, canton Vaucouleurs and so
should be grouped with other nobility in the duchy of Lorraine. Méry-sur-Seine
lies about 20 kilometres west of Arcis-sur-Aube in the département of
Aube, arrondissement Nogent-sur-Seine, canton Méry-sur-Seine, a
location within the county of Bar-sur-Seine in medieval times and about 150
kilometres west of Vaucouleurs. Doulevant, now called Doulevant-le-Château, is
about 15 kilometres west of Joinville and 25 kilometres east of Brienne, in the
département of Marne, arrondissement Saint-Dizier, canton
Doulevant-le-Château. In addition, one branch of this Joinville family lived
in England. To avoid problems associated with this diversity of locations, the
following Joinville branch is shown immediately after the main Joinville
family.

GEOFFROY de Joinville, son of SIMON Seigneur de Joinville & his second wife Beatrix
d'Auxonne [Bourgogne-Comté] (-Trim 21 Oct 1314). "Jean seigneur de
Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne", with the advice of "Béatrix,
sa mère", confirmed donations of property to Boulancourt by "Simon
son père, de Geoffroy son oncle" and promised support to the abbey if
"Geoffroy, seigneur de Vaucouleurs, son frère" troubled their
possession, by charter dated Jul 1241[511]. Seigneur de Vaucouleurs. His parentage is confirmed by a
charter dated Dec 1255 in which “Symons de Jenvile sires de Jay” names “mes
frères Jehans signour de Jenvile, senechaz de Campaigne et Joffroy de Jenvile
signor de Vauquelour”[512].
“Jehans sires de Joinville seneschaus de Champaigne”
confirmed the donation of revenue “de Syrefontaine” made to Mureau by “signours
Thomas chevalier de Braz...signour Perron son freire” and “Joffroi mon
freire signour de Vaucolor” by charter dated Aug 1255[513]. “Gaufridus de Genvyle dominus de Vaucolour
miles et Matildis de Lacy filia Gileberti Lacy uxor eius” donated property
to Dore Abbey by undated charter, witnessed by “Johanne de Vaucolour milite…”[514]. An order dated 16 Jan 1283 records "recognizance by
Geofferey de Geneville, Matilda his wife and Peter their eldest son"
to "William de Valence" for the commission of lands of “Maurice
FitzGerald in Ireland, deceased” and for the marriage of “Gerald son and
heir of the said Maurice, under age, and in custody of the said William”[515]. "Geoffroy seigner de Vaucouleurs" divided his
territories with “Gautier son fils aîné”, with the consent of “Mahaut
sa femme et de ses autres enfants...Simon, Nicolas, Pierre, Guillaume et Jeanne
comtesse de Salmes”, by charter dated 1294[516].

m (1252 before 12 Aug) as her second husband, MATILDA de Lacy,
widow of PIERRE de Genève,
daughter of GILBERT de Lacy of Ewyas Lacy, Herefordshire & his wife Isabel
--- (1230 or before-Apr 1303). Matthew Paris names "Matildam elegantem
filiam Walteri de Lasey in Hybernia" as wife of "Petrus de
Geneure natione Provincialis…" when recording her husband's death iin
1249[517].
A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey
names “Matildis” as second daughter and heiress of “Gilbertus de Lacy”,
son of “Walterus de Lacy”, adding that she married “Galfridi de
Geneville”, and also lists their descendants[518]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Margeria
et Matilda" as the daughters and co-heiresses of "Gilberto de
Lacy" and his wife, adding that Matilda married "Gaufrido de
Genyvile"[519].
Henry III King of England granted "Geoffroy de Joinville et Mahaut de Lacy sa femme"
rights in the land of Meath held by "Gautier de Lacy, grand-père de
Mahaut" by charter dated 8 Aug 1252[520]. “Gaufridus de Genvyle dominus de Vaucolour miles et Matildis
de Lacy filia Gileberti Lacy uxor eius” donated property to Dore Abbey by
undated charter, witnessed by “Johanne de Vaucolour milite…”[521]. An order dated 16 Jan 1283 records "recognizance by
Geofferey de Geneville, Matilda his wife and Peter their eldest son"
to "William de Valence" for the commission of lands of “Maurice
FitzGerald in Ireland, deceased” and for the marriage of “Gerald son and
heir of the said Maurice, under age, and in custody of the said William”[522]. "Geoffroy seigner de Vaucouleurs" divided his
territories with “Gautier son fils aîné”, with the consent of “Mahaut
sa femme et de ses autres enfants...Simon, Nicolas, Pierre, Guillaume et Jeanne
comtesse de Salmes”, by charter dated 1294[523].

Geoffroy & his wife had [eleven]
children:

1.GEOFFROY de Joinville (-before 16 Jan 1283). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey,
Monmouthshire names "Gaufrido Genyvile" as the son and heir of
"Gaufrido de Genyvyle" and his wife "Matilda Lacy"[524]. If this is correct and Geoffroy existed, he must have died before
16 Jan 1283, the date of the charter quoted below in which his brother Pierre
is named as his parents’ oldest son.

2.PIERRE de Joinville (-before 8 Jun 1292). The
Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Petro de Genyvile"
as brother of "Gaufrido Genyvile", son and heir of "Gaufrido
de Genyvyle" and his wife "Matilda Lacy"[525]. An order dated 16 Jan 1283 records "recognizance by
Geofferey de Geneville, Matilda his wife and Peter their eldest son"
to "William de Valence" for the commission of lands of “Maurice
FitzGerald in Ireland, deceased” and for the marriage of “Gerald son and
heir of the said Maurice, under age, and in custody of the said William”[526]. Of Ludlow Shropshire and Walterstone co Hereford. Lord of Stanton Lacy. m (after 1280) as her second husband,
JEANNE de Lusignan, widow
of BERNARD AIZ [IV] Seigneur d'Albret,
daughter of HUGUES [XIII] Comte de la Marche et d'Angoulême, Seigneur de
Lusignan & his wife Jeanne de Fougères (-before 18 Apr 1323, bur Abbaye de
Valence). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records that "Petro
de Genyvile" married "Johannam filiam --- comitis Marchiæ"[527]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet
been identified. She and her sister Isabelle, as joint heiresses of the
county of la Marche, agreed in May 1309 to transfer the county to Philippe IV
"le Bel" King of France, when it was united with the royal domains.
Philippe IV King of France granted "castra…de Choec et de Payrac"
to "Johanne de Marchia, sorori germane Guidonis quondam comitis
Marchie et Engolisme", by charter dated Aug 1310, which names "Guidonis de Marchia, patrui ipsius Johanne"[528]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records that "Petro
de Genyvile" married "Johannam filiam --- comitis Marchiæ"[529]. Pierre & his wife had three children:

a)JOAN de Genevile(2 Feb 1286-19 Oct 1356). The Chronicle of Tintern
Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Joannam, Matildam et Beatricem" as
the children of "Petro de Genyvile" and his wife, adding that
Jeanne married "Rogero de Mortuomari primo comiti Marchiæ"[530]. A manuscript narrating the foundation of Wigmore Abbey records
that “Rogerum primum comitem” married “dominæ Johannæ filiæ domini
Petri de Genyville, filii domini Galfridi de Genyville, domini de Trym”[531]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of
Lanthony Abbey names “Johannæ, Matildi et Beatrici” as the children of “Petro
Genevyle”, adding that “Johanna” married “domino Rogero de
Mortuomari”[532].
m
(before 6 Oct 1306) ROGER [V] de Mortimer Lord Mortimer, son of EDMUND [I] de Mortimer Lord Mortimer & his wife Margaret de Fiennes (25 Apr or 3 May 1287-executed Tyburn, London 29 Nov 1330, bur Shrewsbury, Church of the Grey Friars). He was created Earl of
March in 1328.

b)MATILDA de Genevile . The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Joannam,
Matildam et Beatricem" as the children of "Petro de Genyvile"
and his wife, adding that the two younger daughters became nuns "apud
Acornbury"[533].
A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey
names “Johannæ, Matildi et Beatrici” as the children of “Petro
Genevyle”[534].

c)BEATRIX de Genevile . The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Joannam,
Matildam et Beatricem" as the children of "Petro de Genyvile"
and his wife, adding that the two younger daughters became nuns "apud
Acornbury"[535].
A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey
names “Johannæ, Matildi et Beatrici” as the children of “Petro
Genevyle”[536].

3.GAUTHIER de Joinville ([1255/65]-killed in battle la Bassée, near Wendin, Flanders [late
1303]). "Geoffroy seigner de Vaucouleurs" divided his
territories with “Gautier son fils aîné”, with the consent of “Mahaut
sa femme et de ses autres enfants...Simon, Nicolas, Pierre, Guillaume et Jeanne
comtesse de Salmes”, by charter dated 1294[537]. Seigneur de Vaucouleurs. “Gautiers de Joinville sires
de Vauquelour et...Isabiaus de Cereix dame de Vauquelour sa feme” confirmed
the grant of freedoms to Vaucouleurs made by “nostre...père...signour
Joffroy de Joinville premier signour de Vauquelour” by charter dated Sep
1298[538].
An anonymous chronicle of Flanders records that “sire Liebaut de Baufremont,
sire Hubert de Beaujeu et le sire de Vaucoulour” left Tournay to attack “l’église
de le Bassée”, and that the “seigneur de Vaucouleur et de Wendin”
was killed, dated to [late 1303] from the context[539]. mISABELLE de Cirey, daughter of --- (-after 26 Aug
1326). “Gautiers de Joinville sires de Vauquelour et...Isabiaus de Cereix
dame de Vauquelour sa feme” confirmed the grant of freedoms to Vaucouleurs
made by “nostre...père...signour Joffroy de Joinville premier signour de
Vauquelour” by charter dated Sep 1298[540]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been
identified. "Héluis, femme de Gérard de Prégny" acknowledged
that she was “femme de corps d’Isabeau de Cirey dame de Vaucouleurs et
d’Aulnay-le-Châtel” by charter dated 26 Aug 1326[541]. Gauthier & his wife had [three] children:

i)AME de Joinville ([1305/30]-after 23 Apr 1380). His parentage is confirmed by the
charter dated 23 Apr 1380 quoted below, although this document does not confirm
specifically that his mother was Marguerite de Plancy. Seigneur de Lachy. Seigneur de Méry-sur-Seine et d’Aulnay-le-Châtel, co-seigneur de
Pouan: a charter dated 1 Aug 1367 records an agreement between “Henri de
Poitiers évêque de Poitiers, Amé de Joinville seigneur de Méry-sur-Seine et
d’Aunay-le-Châtel, co-seigneurs de Pouan” and “Jeanne de Sully dame de
Plancy et de Viâpres” fixing the limits of the seigneurie of Pouan and
Viâpres[547].
"Amé de Joinville s. de Méry-sur-Seine",
in his name and in the names of “Jean de Joinville chevalier et Jean de
Joinville écuyer ses cousins germains”, sold rights “du buisson de
Hautefeuille, dans la châtellenie de Crécy-en-Brie” to the king by charter
dated 30 Aug 1364[548].
Duchesne records seeing a charter dated 1371 under which “Amé de Joinville
chevalier seigneur de Mery sur Seine et d’Estrelles” swore homage to the
bishop of Troyes for “la mesme terre d’Estrelles”[549]. "Jean Goujon, demeurant à Méry" declared having
sold revenue to “Amé de Joinville chevalier s. de Méry et d’Aulnay-le-Châtel”
by charter dated 18 May 1376[550].
"Renaut d’Ay chevalier et Jeanne sa femme" issued a charter
dated 30 Apr 1379 in respect of their sale of property at “Villeneuve-lès-Vertus”
to “Amé de Joinville chevalier s. de Méry et d’Aulnay-le-Châtel”[551]. “Monsieur Ayme de Janville chevallier seigneur de
Annoy-le-Chastel” sold “les ville et chatellenye de Méry-sur-Seine”
to the king, inherited from “Messire Jehan de Janville père du dit messire
Ayme”, reserving rights granted by “le dit feu messire Jehan et feue
Madame Marguerite de Plancy sa femme” to “feue madame Lore leur fille,
sœur dudit vendeur”, by charter dated 23 Apr 1380[552]. m ---. The name of Amé’s
wife is not known. Amé & his wife had [five] children (some secondary
sources suggest that “Simone de Méry/Merrey”, wife of Charles de Poitiers
Seigneur de Saint-Vallier, was related to the Joinville seigneurs de
Méry-sur-Seine but, as pointed out in the document PROVENCE, there are
indications that Simone was descended from Gauthier Seigneur de Merry
{département Haute-Marne, arrondissement Chaumont, canton Poissons} and his
wife Hélisende d’Arcis-sur-Aube):

(a)JEAN de Joinville (-before Dec 1379). Seigneur de Lachy. Père Anselme names “Jean de Joinville seigneur de Lachy“ as
son of Amé de Joinville[553].
Delaborde comments that he was "mort sans doute avant son père”[554]. No indication has been found of the primary source in which he is
named. He must have died before his brother-in-law was recorded as holding
Lachy some time in 1379 (see below).

(b)MARGUERITE de Joinville (-after 2 Jul 1416).
Père Anselme records that “Marguerite de Joinville dame de Méry“ swore
to the king that she had inherited one third of Lachy after the death of her
father Amé by charter dated 1378 (presumably misdated as her father is named in
the charter dated 30 Apr 1379 quoted above)[555]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the record of “Eudes
chevalier Seigneur de Culans” holding “la terre située au parc de Lachy”
from the king in 1379[556].
Her two marriages are confirmed by a charter dated 9 Sep 1383 recording an
agreement between "Hugues d’Amboise s. de Chaumont et de S. Vrain
chevalier, chambellan du roi et Marguerite de Joinville sa femme veuve d’Eudes
s. de Culan...ayant la garde d’Annor dame de Culant fille de Marguerite et
d’Eudes" and “Guichard de Culan chevaler” concerning the
inheritance of “feu Gilbert dernier seigneur de Culan, frère de ladite Annor”[557]. "Marguerite de Joinville comtesse de Vaudémont"
transferred rights “à Arnancourt” to “sa cousine Marguerite de
Joinville dame de Chaumont-sur-Loire” by charter dated 2 Jul 1416[558]. The dating of this document indicates that Marguerite must have
been divorced from her second husband, who is recorded in 1394 with another
wife Isabelle who was co-heiress of Jean de Joinville Seigneur de Doulevant
(see below), but continued to be called “dame de Chaumont-sur-Loire”. No
record has been found of the death of Marguerite. m
firstly (before 1379) as his second wife, EUDES Seigneur de Culant, son of JEAN [II] Seigneur de Culant & his wife Agnes de Sancerre
(-1380). m secondly
([9 Sep/12 Dec] 1383, divorced before 17 May 1394) as his second wife, HUGUES
[II] d'Amboise Seigneur
de Chaumont-sur-Loire et de Saint-Verain,
son of JEAN d’Amboise Seigneur de Chaumont-sur-Loire et de Saint-Vérain &
his wife Jeanne de Beaumont(-[1
Jul 1404/21 May 1406], bur Roches).

(c)[two daughters . If Père Anselme is correct as
noted above in stating that their supposed sister Marguerite inherited one
third of Lachy, it is likely that the other two thirds of the property was held
by two other co-heiresses, presumably Marguerite’s sisters. If that is
correct, no indication has been found of their identities.]

ii)LORE de Joinville (-before 23 Apr 1380). Her parentage is confirmed by the charter
dated 23 Apr 1380 quoted below. Europäische Stammtafeln names “Lore de
Joinville dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” as mother of “Marie d’Arcelles
dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” who married firstly Jean [III] Seigneur de
Commercy and secondly Charles de Châtillon[559]. No indication has been found of the primary source on which this
information is based. Her part ownership of Méry-sur-Seine is traced to the
following document: “Monsieur Ayme de Janville chevallier seigneur de
Annoy-le-Chastel” sold “les ville et chatellenye de Méry-sur-Seine”
to the king, inherited from “Messire Jehan de Janville père du dit messire
Ayme”, reserving rights granted by “le dit feu messire Jehan et feue
Madame Marguerite de Plancy sa femme” to “feue madame Lore leur fille,
sœur dudit vendeur”, by charter dated 23 Apr 1380[560]. m --- d’Arcelles, son of ---. Lore & her husband
had one child:

(a)MARIE [Isabelle] d’Arcelles(-after 1387). Europäische Stammtafeln names
“Lore de Joinville dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” as mother of “Marie
d’Arcelles dame de Méry-sur-Seine [en partie]” who married firstly Jean [III]
Seigneur de Commercy and secondly Charles de Châtillon[561]. No indication has been found of the primary source on which this
information is based. Duchesne records that Charles de Châtillon swore homage
to Pierre Bishop of Troyes for “la terre d’Estrelles, ou Straelles, à cause
d’Ysabeau son espouse”, in the presence of “Guillaume du Plaissier et de
Dreux de Mello, chevaliers”, by charter dated 1387[562]. The explanation for the names Isabelle/Marie has not been found.
Duchesne then records seeing a charter dated 1371 under which “Amé de
Joinville chevalier seigneur de Mery sur Seine et d’Estrelles” swore homage
to the bishop of Troyes for “la mesme terre d’Estrelles” and suggests
that Marie/Isabelle “d’Arcelles” could have been his daughter, assuming that
“Arcelles” and “Estrelles” refer to the same place[563]. m firstly (27 Mar 1358) JEAN [III] Seigneur de Commercy
et de Venisy, son of JEAN [II] Seigneur de Commercy [Saarbrücken] & his
wife Alix de Joinville (-after 28 Apr 1384). m
secondly [as his second wife,] CHARLES de Châtillon Seigneur
de Châtillon, son of JEAN de Châtillon Seigneur de la Ferté & his [second
wife Isabelle de Montmorency] (-1401).

b)ERARD de Joinville (-before Aug 1359). "Anseau
s. de Joinville et de Reynel sénéchal de Champagne" gave property “à
Maconcourt” to “son cousin Erard de Vaucouleurs” who sold it to
Saint-Urbain, by charter dated 14 Sep 1322[564]. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been
identified, but this charter, read together with the charter dated 2 Sep 1331
(quoted above) which names his presumed older brother Jean as Seigneur de
Vaucouleurs, as well as the chronology of the family, suggests that Erard was
Jean’s younger brother. Seigneur de Doulevant. "Erard de Joinville s.
de Doulevant bailli de Vitry" sealed a charter dated 30 Dec 1344 which
records an agreement between “la veuve de Nicolas de Salm” and
Boulancourt abbey regarding “la Neuve-Grange”[565]. The charter dated 30 Aug 1364 which names his supposed son and
grandson as “cousins germains” of Amé de Joinville Seigneur de
Méry-sur-Seine, quoted below, suggests that Erard de Joinville Seigneur de
Doulevant was the same person as Erard brother of Jean de Joinville Seigneur de
Vaucouleurs. On the other hand, the charter dated 6 Aug 1346 quoted below,
which names the “neveu” of Erard de Joinville bailly de Vitry,
introduces some doubt as the chronology does not appear to support Erard de
Joinville-Vaucouleurs having a brother who had a grandson of military age at
that date. That assumes that “neveu” in the document in question can be
interpreted in its strict sense of nephew, which is not necessarily
inevitable.

c)[--- de Joinville
. Provided that “neveu” in the document quoted below can be interpreted
in its strict sense of nephew, the father of Anseau de Joinville was the
brother of Erard de Joinville Seigneur de Doulevant. This appears unlikely to
be correct from a chronological point of view. Another possibility is that “Anseau”
in this document was an error for “Amé”, although the apparent
chronological problem would remain.] m
---. One child:

i)[ANSEAU de Joinville
(-after 6 Aug 1346). "Erard de Joinville chevalier bailli de Vitry"
listed his men-at-arms, including “Anseau de Joinville son neveu et Jean de
Joinville fils de ce dernier”, by charter dated 6 Aug 1346[566]. m ---. The name of
Anseau’s wife is not known. Anseau & his wife had one child:]

5.[JEAN de Joinville
(-after Jul 1315). "Nicolas de Joinville s. de Miglionico" divided
the inheritance of “feu son père Geoffroy de Joinville s. de Vaucouleurs”
with “Jean s. de Vaucouleurs son frère aîné”, receiving “Morancourt,
la Neuville-à-Mathons, Mussey, Magneux et Montigny-aux-Ormes”, by charter
dated Jul 1315[569].
Jean is not named in the charter dated 1294 which names the other sons of
Geoffroy de Joinville Seigneur de Vaucouleurs. It is possible therefore that “Jean”
in the charter dated Jul 1315 was an error for “Simon”, or that “son
frère aîné” should be “fils de son frère aîné”.]

10.[CATHERINE de
Joinville (-after 1 Jan 1315). Prioress of Acornbury. Gilbert de
Reigate rector of Bridge Solars church granted an annual pension from his
church to the nunnery of Acornbury and “Catherine de Geynville prioress”
by charter dated 1 Jan 1315[576].
Considering that the Vaucouleurs family was the only Joinville branch recorded
in England, it is likely that Catherine was the daughter of Geoffroy de
Joinville Seigneur de Vaucouleurs or the daughter of one of his sons.]

11.[--- de Joinville. An order dated 16 Jan 1283
records "recognizance by Geofferey de Geneville, Matilda his wife and
Peter their eldest son" to "William de Valence" for
the commission of lands of “Maurice FitzGerald in Ireland, deceased” and
for the marriage of “Gerald son and heir of the said Maurice, under age, and
in custody of the said William”[577]. The Complete Peerage, assuming that Gerald’s marriage was
arranged with the daughter of Geoffroy de Joinville as a result of this
agreement and that the marriage took place, and calls her “as is commonly
stated, Joan”[578].
No primary source is cited which confirms that this information is correct.
Geoffroy de Joinville is recorded elsewhere with a daughter named “Jeanne” who
married Johann [I] Graf von Salm (see above). Unless this was Jeanne’s second
marriage, it is likely that the daughter who was betrothed to or married Gerald
FitzMaurice bore another name. [Betrothed/m] (after 16 Jan 1283) GERALD FitzMaurice Baron of
Offaly, son of MAURICE FitzGerald Baron of Offaly & his wife
[first/second] wife [---/Agnes de Valence] (-1287).]

ERARD de Joinville, son of GAUTHIER de Joinville Seigneur de Vaucouleurs & his
wife Isabelle de Cirey (-before Aug 1359).
"Anseau s. de Joinville et de Reynel sénéchal de Champagne"
gave property “à Maconcourt” to “son cousin Erard de Vaucouleurs”
who sold it to Saint-Urbain, by charter dated 14 Sep 1322[579]. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been
identified, but this charter, read together with the charter dated 2 Sep 1331
(quoted above) which names his presumed older brother Jean as Seigneur de
Vaucouleurs, as well as the chronology of the family, suggests that Erard was
Jean’s younger brother. Seigneur de Doulevant. The charter dated 30 Aug 1364
which names his supposed son and grandson as “cousins germains” of Amé
de Joinville Seigneur de Méry-sur-Seine, quoted below, suggests that Erard de
Joinville Seigneur de Doulevant was the same person as Erard brother of Jean de
Joinville Seigneur de Vaucouleurs. On the other hand, the charter dated 6 Aug
1346 quoted below, which names the “neveu” of Erard de Joinville bailly
de Vitry, introduces some doubt as the chronology does not appear to support
Erard de Joinville-Vaucouleurs having a brother who had a grandson of military
age at that date. That assumes that “neveu” in the document in question
can be interpreted in its strict sense of nephew, which is not necessarily
inevitable. "Erard de Joinville s. de Doulevant bailli de Vitry"
sealed a charter dated 30 Dec 1344 which records an agreement between “la
veuve de Nicolas de Salm” and Boulancourt abbey regarding “la
Neuve-Grange”[580].
"Erard de Joinville chevalier bailli de Vitry" listed his
men-at-arms, including “Anseau de Joinville son neveu et Jean de Joinville
fils de ce dernier”, by charter dated 6 Aug 1346[581]. "Erard de Joinville chevalier bailli de Chaumont"
referred to a dispute between “Hugues et Aubertin de Chatonrupt” by
charter dated 2 Mar 1352[582].
"Erard de Joinville bailli de Chaumont" witnessed the marriage
contract of “Henri de Joinville comte de Vaudémont” dated 19 May 1353[583]. He was presumably deceased in Aug 1359 when his son Jean was
named as Seigneur de Doulevant (see below).

m ---. The primary source which confirms the name of Erard’s wife
has not been identified.

Erard & his wife had one child:

1.JEAN de Joinville (-after 1359). Seigneur de Doulevant et de Villiers-aux-Chênes. "Jean
de Joinville s. de Doulevant-le-Château et de Villiers-aux-Chênes, fils d’Erard
de J. seigneur desdits lieux, bailli de Chaumont" granted rights “aux
habitants desdits lieux”, with the consent “du comte de Vaudémont s. de
Joinville”, dated 4 Apr 1358[584]. "Jean de Joinville s. de Doulevant et de
Villiers-aux-Chênes" reached agreement “avec ses hommes”, with
the consent of “Henri comte de Vaudémont”, by charter dated Aug 1359[585]. ["Amé de Joinville s. de Méry-sur-Seine", in his
name and in the names of “Jean de Joinville chevalier et Jean de Joinville
écuyer ses cousins germains”, sold rights “du buisson de Hautefeuille,
dans la châtellenie de Crécy-en-Brie” to the king by charter dated 30 Aug
1364[586].]
m ---. The primary source which
confirms the name of Jean’s wife has not been identified. Jean & his wife
had two children:

a)JEAN de Joinville ([after 1346]-[18 Jan 1390/17 May 1394]). The primary source which
confirms his parentage has not been identified but it is suggested by the
following document. His suggested birth date is indicated by the same document
indicating that he had not been knighted at the time. ["Amé de
Joinville s. de Méry-sur-Seine", in his name and in the names of “Jean
de Joinville chevalier et Jean de Joinville écuyer ses cousins germains”,
sold rights “du buisson de Hautefeuille, dans la châtellenie de
Crécy-en-Brie” to the king by charter dated 30 Aug 1364[587].] Seigneur de Doulevant et de Villiers-aux-Chênes. "Jean
de Joinville s. de Doulevant et de Villiers-aux-Chênes" swore homage “au
comte de Genève et de Vaudémont” for “[le] château de Joinville, de
Doulevant, Villiers-aux-Chênes, Baudricourt, Charmes-la-Petite, Osne et
Arnancourt” by charter dated 18 Jan 1390[588]. “Ferry de Lorraine Cte de Vaudemont, Sgr de Joinville, Hue
d’Amboise Sgr de Chaumont-sur-Loire et Jac. de Hens Sgr de Ténorgues”, all
having rights “à la succession de feu Mre Jn de Joinville Sgr de Doulevant à
cause de leurs femmes”, reached agreement concerning land which “feu
Henry Cte de Vaudemont sire de Joinville” had assigned to “feu Jn de
Joinville” by charter dated 17 May 1394[589]. Hereditary rights of Ferry de Lorraine in the succession are not
obvious. Presumably his wife had residuary rights from the arrangement
involving her father Henri de Joinville Comte de Vaudémont.

b)--- de Joinville
. His relationship with Jean de Joinville Seigneur de Doulevant who died [18
Jan 1390/17 May 1394] is confirmed by the charter dated 30 Jul 1395 quoted
below which names the latter as uncle of this person’s two daughters. m ---. Two children:

ii)JEANNE de Joinville. “Ferry de Lorraine
Cte de Vaudemont, Sgr de Joinville, Hue d’Amboise Sgr de Chaumont-sur-Loire et
Jac. de Hens Sgr de Ténorgues”, all having rights “à la succession de
feu Mre Jn de Joinville Sgr de Doulevant à cause de leurs femmes”, reached
agreement concerning land which “feu Henry Cte de Vaudemont sire de
Joinville” had assigned to “feu Jn de Joinville” by charter dated 17
May 1394[593].
Dame de Doulevant. "Jacques de Hans et Jeanne de Joinville sa femme
seigneur et dame de Doulevant" acknowledged to “Ferry de Lorraine
et à Marguerite de Joinville comte et comtesse de Vaudémont” receipt of
money “sur la halle de Joinville” by charter dated 30 Jul 1395[594]. Her first marriage is indicated by the charter dated under which
[her sons] “Jean et Pierre de Saulx“ swore homage to Charles VI King of
France for their lands and those of “leur mère Jeanne de Joinville” by
charter dated 8 Mar 1399[595],
read together with the charter dated 8 Jan 1425 under which [her grandsons] “Jehan de Saulx sieur de Doulevant le Chastel et
Amé de Saulx son frère” granted
annual revenue to “Henry d’Orlye” who had lent the ransom for “dame
Marye de Rosay leur mère” who had been imprisoned by “Eustache de
Vernancourt”[596].
m firstlyGUILLAUME
de Saulx Seigneur d’Epense, Cernon et de Bouconville, son of ---. m secondly (before 17 May 1394) JACQUES [III] de Hans Seigneur de Thénorgues,
son of HENRI [II] Seigneur de Hans [Grandpré] & his wife Beatrix de
Commercy (-after 20 May 1437).

The seigneurie de
Ramerupt was located west of the town of Arcis-sur-Aube, north-east of Troyes, in the present-day French département of Aube. Seigneurs de Ramerupt are
recorded in primary sources from the mid-10th century to the early 12th, after
which the seigneurie passed by marriage to a younger branch of the family of
the comtes de Brienne. The early seigneurs de Ramerupt were studied by Arbois
de Jubainville in the mid-19th century (his article includes several
inaccuracies relating to the family relationships)[597] and Moranvillé in the early 20th century[598].

Two siblings:

1.HILDUIN [I] (-before 956). Comte [de Montdidier]. Philippe
I King of France donated the village of Bagneux to the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés
in exchange for Combs by charter dated 1061, which recounts that "Hugonis
ducis…magnus" [Hugues "le Grand"] had granted Combs to
"Hilduino…comiti de Monte qui vocatur Desiderius", who died
before his benefactor (i.e. before 956), and that Henri I King of France had
regranted Combs to "Manasses nepos supradicti Hilduini comitis"
just as "suus avunculus Hilduinus" had held it, noting that
"Odo comes filius prefati Manassetis" now claimed the property
as held by "avunculus patris eius Hilduinus"[599].

2.brother/sister . On the basis of the charter
dated 1061 which is quoted above, there are two possible identities for this
brother/sister. If a brother, he was the husband of Hersende Dame de Ramerupt,
mother of Hilduin [II] who is shown below. If a sister, she was Hersende
herself. If the word "avunculus" in the document is given its
strict interpretation of maternal uncle, the latter possibility would be
correct. However, such relationship terms are not consistently used in their
strict linguistic sense in medieval documents. In any case, from a
chronological point of view, the term must indicate great-uncle in the 1061
document.

1.--- . Arbois de Jubainville states that the
name of Hersende’s husband is not known, adding that "on suppose sans
preuve que c’était Hilduin comte de Ponthieu"[600]. As noted above, one possibility is that the husband of Hersende
was the brother of Hilduin [I] who is shown above. mHERSENDE Dame de Ramerupt, daughter of
---. The Historia S. Balsemii records that "la comtesse…Hersende"
transported the relics of St Baussenge from the priory of Saint-Pierre
d’Arcis-sur-Aube to "son château de Ramerupt dans une église bâtie à
ses frais, sous l’invocation de Notre-Dame"[601]. As noted above, one possibility is that Hersende was the sister
of Hilduin [I] who is shown above. Two children:

a)HILDUIN [II] (-after [992/93]). The Historia S. Balsemii and the Historia
S. Bercharii name "Hilduin comte d’Arcis" as the son of
"la comtesse…Hersende"[602]. Comte d’Arcis-sur-Aube. The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de Ramerut…Hilduinus"
as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that
they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[603]. The reference to "Ganalo" has not been
deciphered. Seigneur de Ramerupt. The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines records in [992/93] that "Adzo [abbas…Dervensis
monasterii]" [Adzon abbé de Montiérender] died "in
peregratione transmarina", adding that he had taken with him "comitem
Hilduinum de Arceis"[604].

b)MANASSES (-991). The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de
Ramerut…Hilduinus" as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[605]. Bishop of
Troyes 970.

Two brothers, presumably great-nephews of
Hilduin [I] who is shown above if the 1061 charter noted above is interpreted
correctly, maybe sons of Hilduin [II] Seigneur de Ramerupt:

1.HILDUIN [III] (-after 1032).
Arbois de Jubainville names Hilduin [II] and adds that "on peut
supposer que cet Hilduin était fils" of Hilduin [I], implying that
there is no primary source which confirms that they were father and son[606]. Comte [de Montdidier]. Seigneur de Ramerupt.
Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes"
to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses
comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini,
Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de
Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…"[607].

2.MANASSES (-killed in battle Ornel, near Etain 15 Dec 1037, bur Verdun St
Vanne). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de
Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduino
comiti de Ramerut"[608].
This passage names both "comes de Dommartin" and "Manasses
cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduini comiti de
Ramerut". As shown by the charter dated 4 Feb 1031 which is quoted
below, "Hilduini comitis" had a brother and a son named
Manassès. A sensible interpretation of the Genealogiæ is therefore that
"comes de Dammartin" (named Manassès) was the brother of
Hilduin [II] and "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" his son.
This speculation appears to be confirmed by the charter dated 1061, under which
Philippe I King of France donated the village of Bagneux to the abbey of
Saint-Germain-des-Prés in exchange for Combs, which recounts that "Hugonis
ducis…magnus" [Hugues "le Grand"] had granted Combs to
"Hilduino…comiti de Monte qui vocatur Desiderius", who died
before his benefactor (i.e. before 956), and that Henri I King of France had
regranted Combs to "Manasses nepos supradicti Hilduini comitis"
just as "suus avunculus Hilduinus" had held it, noting that
"Odo comes filius prefati Manassetis" now claimed the property
as held by "avunculus patris eius Hilduinus"[609]. Comte de Dammartin-en-Goële.
Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes"
to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses
comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini,
Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de
Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…"[610].]

m ---. The name of Hilduin's wife is not known. A suggestion about
the family connections of Hilduin’s wife is provided by the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "comes Suessionis et comes
de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina"
as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui
fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias"
as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam
dicti Helduini"[614].
It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soissons descended from
the family of the dukes of Normandy. The only way in which the Genealogiæ
could make sense is if "fratres" can be interpreted as
including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has been observed and
confirmed as correct in other cases). If that is correct, it is possible that
Hilduin’s wife married, as her second husband, Renaud Comte de Soissons,
although that hypothesis would seem chronologically difficult unless Hilduin’s
widow was Renaud’s second wife. As discussed elsewhere in the present
document, it is likely that the wife of Renaud Comte de Soissons was ---, niece of
Guy Archbishop of Reims, daughter of ---. This affiliation is suggested by one
version of the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio)
which names “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus”[615]. The latter refers to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bishop
of Cambrai, who was the grandson of Renaud Comte de Soissons, and the former to
Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassès
“le Chauve” Vidame de Reims (see above). It appears
unlikely that the family connection was through the Normandy family of Renaud’s
son-in-law Guillaume “Busac” d’Eu. On the other hand, the connection may have
been through the previous generation, asssuming that “avunculus” in the
source in question can be interpreted loosely. This hypothesis would also
provide an explanation for the introduction of the name Manassès into the
family of the comtes de Soissons.

Hilduin [III] & his wife had [three]
children:

1.MANASSES (-after 4 Feb 1031). Robert II King of France confirmed the
donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter
dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis
fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco,
Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de
Caprosa…"[616].
same person as...?MANASSES
“Calva-asina” ). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de
Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduino
comiti de Ramerut", specifying that Manassès married (as her second
husband) "prefatus comes Helduinus predicti Ebali uxorem dictam
Beatricem, sororum videlicet suam"[617]. Some creative interpretation of this passage is necessary to make
sense of it, including the hypotheses that the wife of Hilduin [III] married
the comte de Soissons As her second husband (see above), and that the comte de
Dammartin was related more remotely (as discussed more in PARIS REGION
NOBILITY). If these hypotheses are incorrect, it would be uncertain that
Manassès “Calva-asina” was the same person as the son of Hilduin [III] who is
named in the charter dated 4 Feb 1031 which is quoted above. m ([1021]) as her second husband, BEATRIX de Hainaut,
widow of EBLES [I] Comte de Roucy, daughter of
REGINAR IV Comte de Hainaut & his wife Hedwige de France. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Beatricem"
daughter of "Hadevidem…comitissam Hainonensium", specifying
that she married "Ebalus de Roceio, cuius frater fuit Lebaldus de Malla et soror Iveta comitissa de Roitest" and later "Manasses cui
agnomen Calva-asina"[618]. Manassès & his wife had three children:

a)MANASSES (-1085). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Manassem"
as the son of Beatrix by her second marriage, recording in a later passage his
election as archbishop of Reims in 1070 “per annos 16”[619]. Archbishop of Reims
1070. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Manassem Remensem archiepiscopum et Guidonem de Novo-castello et Adelidem abbatissam…de Sancto Iohanne" children of "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina"
& his wife Beatrix[620].
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1085 of "Manasse" and the
election of “Raynaldus” as archbishop of Reims[621]. [The necrology of the church of Reims records the death "XIV
Kal Oct" of "domnus Manasses...Remensis archiepiscopus"
and his donations of “iv altaria, unum de Monte S. Petri, alterum de
Miliaco, tertium de Taxeio, quartum de Novavilla”[622]. It is not known whether this entry relates to Archbishop Manassès
[I] or Manassès [II].]

mADELAIDE de Roucy,
daughter of EBLES Comte de Roucy & his wife Beatrix de Hainaut
([1015/20]-1062). The
Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem"
as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his
wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de
Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[631]. The Genealogiæ
Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et
Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda
filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[632]. The Histoire
de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the
election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et
thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes
Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum
archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et
Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi, septemque
filias...”[633]. Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of
Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was
the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see above in the present
document)[634]. However,
he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was
the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date
and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060].

Hilduin [IV] & his wife had nine
children:

1.EBLES [II] de Ramerupt (-May
1103). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ebalus…de Roceio et Andreas de Ramerut et Arceis comites" as the two sons of "Hilduinus de Ramerut" & his wife Adelaide[635]. Comte de Roucy.

a)EBLESde Ramerupt (-21 Jun 1126). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ebalum Cathalaunensem episcopum et
Hugonem comitem de Hyspania et Oliverum et filias" as children of
"Andreas comes de Rameruth"[641]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. [Archdeacon at Laon 1103/04]. Bishop of Châlons
1121. The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1121
of “Willelmus episcopus” and the succession of “Ebalus”[642]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1121 of "Guilelmus…episcopus
Cathalaunensis" and the succession of "domnus Ebalus…filius
comitis Andree de Arceis…"[643]. "Ebalus…Cathalennensium episcopus cum post obitum patris
mei Andree comitis Ramerucensis" donated property to Marmoutier by
charter dated 1123[644].
The Annales Sancti Petri Catalaunensis record the death in 1126 of “Ebalus
episcopus”[645].
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
records the death in 1126 of "episcopus Ebalus Cathalaunensis"
and the succession of "quidam magister Albricus"[646].

d)ALIXde Ramerupt (-1143 or after). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis specifies that one daughter (unnamed, mentioned first) of "Andreas comes de Rameruth" married "Aerardo comiti Briennensi"[652]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Erardus…comes Brenensis"
as "unam filiarum comitis Andree de Archeis et de Ramerut" but
does not name her[653].
Dame de Ramerupt. mERARD [I] Comte de Brienne, son of GAUTHIER [I]
Comte de Brienne & his wife Eustachie Ctss de Bar-sur-Seine (-[1114/25],
bur Montier-en-Der).

3.BEATRIXde Ramerupt (-2 Sep after 1129). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis
Hilduini de Rameruth maior natu filia dicta Beatrix" as wife, also
incorrectly, of "Rotaldo comiti de Pertica"[655]. She is named as wife of Geoffroy Comte du Perche by Orderic
Vitalis, incorrectly saying that she was daughter of "the count of Rochefort"[656] and specifying in another passage that her son Rotrou was consanguineus
of Alfonso I King of Aragon[657].
The Chronicle of Alberic de
Trois-Fontaines names "Beatrix" as second daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy and incorrectly names her husband "Rotroldo comiti de Pertico"[658]. mGEOFFROY de Châteaudun,
son of ROTROU Vicomte de Châteaudun, Comte de Mortagne & his wife Adelise
de Bellême (-mid-Oct 1100, bur Nogent-le-Rotrou[659]). He succeeded his father in [1080] as Comte de Mortagne. He adopted the title Comte du Perche
after 1090.

4.MARGUERITE de Ramerupt. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "secundam filiam comitis Helduini de Rameruth dictam
Margaretam" as wife of "Hugo comes de Claro-monte"[660]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Margareta" as third daughter
of Hilduin Comte de Roucy and names her husband "comiti Hugonis de Claromonte Baluacensi"[661].
mHUGUES de Clermont
[en-Beauvaisis] dit de Mouchy, son of RENAUD Camerarius & his wife
Ermentrude --- (-after Nov 1099).

6.ADAde Ramerupt (-after 1121,
bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini
comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat" and
thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[664]. The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as
sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[665]. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted
rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et
coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum
meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by
charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ
Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis
suis Adam et Burchardo"[666]. She built the convent of Lessies with her third husband, where
she retired after his death and was buried[667]. m firstlyGEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise,
son of ---. m secondlyGAUTHIER Seigneur d’Ath, son
of ---. m thirdlyTHIERRY Seigneur d'Avesnes,
son of WEDRICUS "Ad-barbam" d'Avesnes & his wife --- (-[1106]).

9.FELICIEde Ramerupt ([1060]-3 May 1123[677],
bur Monastery of San Juan de la Peña). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines
refers to the first of the seven daughters of Count Hilduin as, inaccurately,
wife of "regi Galicie Sanctio" but does not name her[678]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis is somewhat
more precise in referring to, but still not naming, "septima
filia…Hilduini" as wife of "Sanctio regi Hispanie" by
whom she had "Hildefonsum regem et fratrem eius, qui ei successit in
regnum. Cuius filiam cum regni gubernaculis comes inclitus
Barcinonensis, qui paganos impugnare non desinit, duxit uxorem"[679].
The marriage of the king of Aragon to the daughter of a
relatively obscure nobleman in northern France seems surprising considering the
geographical distance and the absence of any other apparent connection between
the two families, but unless more information comes to light there is little alternative
but to treat these two sources at face value. The name of this daughter of
Comte Hilduin is indicated by the Monumenta Historiæ Tornacensis
which names [her son] "in Hispanum...regem Hildefonsum, Feliciæ
materteræ vestræ filium"[680]. The word “vestræ” in this document refers to Barthélemy
Bishop of Laon (died 1158), the son of Aelis de Ramerupt, another daughter of
Comte Hilduin [IV] (see above). The Crónica de San
Juan de la Peña records that King Sancho married "muller Doña
Felicia", but gives no indication of her family origin[681]. "Sancius rex Aragonensium…cum
filio meo Petro et uxore mea regina…Felicia" granted the monastery of
Sauve-Majeure, Gironde to the church of Pamplona by charter dated to [1086/94][682]. m (1076[683] or before)as his second wife,
SANCHO I King of Aragon
[SANCHO V King of Navarre], son of RAMIRO I King of Aragon & his first wife
Gerberge [Ermesenda] de Foix([1042/43]-Huesca
4 Jun 1094, bur Monastery of San Juan de la Peña).

ANDRE de Brienne, son of GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne & his his [first/second]
wife Humbeline de Baudément (-killed in battle Acre Oct 1189). "Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143,
subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue… Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"[684]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum
comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis"
as children of "Galterus comes"[685]. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie
Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris
Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by
charter dated 1147[686].
Seigneur de Ramerupt. "Andree fratris mee"
consented to the donation by "Erardus Brenensis comes"
recorded in the latter's charter dated 1166[687]. "Robertus de Mastoil" donated property to
Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 1166 witnessed by "Airaldus Brenensium comes, Eustacius et Andreas fratres eius, vicecomes Odo"[688]. "Johannes frater meus abbas Belliloci"
witnessed the donation of "Erardus Brenensium comes"
to Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 1186[689]. A charter dated to [25 Mar 1184/24 Mar 1185] records the
settlement of a dispute between the monks of Pontigny and "dominum
Andream de Venesiaco" relating to rights in the wood of Saint-Etienne[690]. "Andreas de Venesiaco" ratified an agreement
with Pontigny regarding the wood of Saint-Etienne, with the consent of "uxor
mea Aaliz et filius meus Gauterius", by charter dated [25 Mar 1184/24
Mar 1185][691].
He is named uncle of Gauthier de Brienne by William of Tyre (Continuator)[692]. "Andreas Ramerudi dominus" confirmed an
agreement between the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie and "Buiamundum"
by charter dated 1189, subscribed by "ipse dominus Andreas et Galterus
filius eius…"[693].
The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Andreas de Briena"
among those who died in Palestine in [1191][694]. He was killed in battle during the early stages of the siege of
Acre led by Guy de Lusignan King of Jerusalem[695].

m (before 1167) as her first husband, ADELAIS de Venisy
Dame de Venisy, daughter of ANSEAU de Venisy Seigneur de Venisy & his wife
Isabelle de Nangis [Capet] (-[20 Mar 1221/Nov 1222]). "Andreas de
Venesiaco" ratified an agreement with Pontigny regarding the wood of
Saint-Etienne, with the consent of "uxor mea Aaliz et filius meus
Gauterius", by charter dated [25 Mar 1184/24 Mar 1185][696]. "Garnerius de Triagnello" confirmed that "domna
A[aliz] consanguinea mea" had renounced rights over the wood of
Saint-Etienne in favour of Pontigny by charter dated [25 Mar 1184/24 Mar 1185][697]. Documents dated Jul 1213 and Aug 1213,
relating to the consanguinity between Erard de Brienne Seigneur de Ramerupt and
his wife Philippa of Jerusalem, records "rex Franciæ…Grossus rex
fratrem…Florium…filia Isabellis de Nangies…domina de Venisiaco",
adding that her daughter was "domina de Venisiaco, mater…[Erardum de
Rameruco] [Erardum de Brena]", another document in the series
clarifying that Isabelle was the mother of "Aalaidis dominæ
Venisiaci…mater…Erardi"[698]. She married secondly (1195 or before) as
his first wife, Gaucher de
Joigny Seigneur de Châteaurenard, sénéchal de Nevers. "Gaucherus
de Joviniaco et dominus de Rameruco" confirmed the donation to
Montiéramy made by “Andreas dominus de Rameruco cujus uxorem post eius
obitum desponsavi” by charter dated 1195[699]. “Dominus Gaucherus de Jovigniaco et domina Aelicia de
Venesiaco uxor eius et dominus Erardus de Brena ipsius Aelicie filius” confirmed
the donation made by “Milo de Pogiaco et Helisabeth uxor sua” to Sens
Maison-Dieu by charter dated Aug 1207[700]. “Gaucherus de Joviniaco dominus Venisiaci...et uxor mea A. et
filius eius E. de Brena” relinquished rights in the forest of Saint-Etienne in favour of Pontigny abbey by charter dated 1211[701].

2.ERARD de Brienne (-Aug [1245/46]). William of Tyre
(Continuator) names him as son of André de Brienne, when recording his marriage[704]. Seigneur de Ramerupt et de Venisy. “Erardus miles
filius Andree de Venesia” confirmed the donation to Pontigny made by “A.
matris mee” who chose her burial there, by charter dated May 1203[705]. “Gaucherus de Joviniaco dominus Venisiaci...et uxor mea A. et
filius eius E. de Brena” relinquished rights in the forest of Saint-Etienne in favour of Pontigny abbey by charter dated 1211[706]. He claimed the county of Champagne 1216/1221[707], by right of his second wife. "Erardo
[de Brenna] et Philippa, uxore eius" postponed appearance at a Papal
tribunal requested by "comitissam Campanie",
by charter dated [1220/21][708].
"Erardus de Brena Rameruci dominus"
acknowledged himself as "homo ligius comitis Barri Ducis"
except for "fidelitate domini mei comitis Campanie, comitis
Nyvernensis, comitis Brene et domini Garneri de Triangulo" by charter
dated Nov 1226[709].
"Erardus de Brena dominus Rameruci et Philippa
eius uxor" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of “filiis
nostris...Henrico milite et Erardo scutario et filiabus nostris Ioanna, Sibylla
et Aelide”, by charter dated Jan 1264 (misdated)[710]. m firstlyHELISENDE, daughter of --- (-1210 or after).
According to Europäische Stammtafeln[711], the first wife of Erard de Brienne was Helisende Ctss du Perche.
The only contemporary Ctss of Perche of this name was Helisende de Rethel, wife
of Thomas Comte du Perche. However, the death of the latter is recorded in
1217. No earlier marriage of his wife has been found, and in any case if she
had married Erard de Brienne as her first husband she could not then have been
described as "Ctss du Perche". m
secondly (15 Aug [1213/14]) PHILIPPA
of Jerusalem, daughter of HENRI de Champagne
King of Jerusalem & his wife Isabelle Queen of Jerusalem (1195/7-20 Dec 1250). The Chronicle of
Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Philippam" as younger
daughter of "comes Campaniensis Henricus" and his wife Isabelle, and her husband "Erardus de Ramerut", specifying that the
latter claimed the county of Champagne in her name[712]. William of Tyre (Continuator) names her and her father, when
recording her marriage[713].
A charter dated to [1212] records the agreement for the marriage between "Erardum Brennensem" and "Philippam…"[714]. The Chronicon of Robert canon of St Maria, Auxerre records
the marriage in 1214 of "Airardus de Rameruco" and
"Philippam filiam Henrici regis Iherosolimitani et comitis Trecensis"[715]. The Annales S.
Benigni Divisionensis record the marriage in 1216
of "filiam Henrici comitis Campanie" with "Airardus de Bregne"[716].
The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records the grant by "Erardus de Brena et Philippa uxor mea, Henrici…quondam comitis Trecensis filia"
dated 21 Mar 1217[717].
"Erardus de Brena dominus Rameruci et Philippa eius uxor"
donated property to Molesme, with the consent of “filiis nostris...Henrico
milite et Erardo scutario et filiabus nostris Ioanna, Sibylla et Aelide”,
by charter dated Jan 1264 (misdated)[718]. The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records the grant by "Philippa
domina Rameruci" for the soul of "maritus meus nobilis vir
Erardus de Brena dominus Rameruci" dated Friday before 24 Jun 1247[719]. Erard & his first wife had one child:

a)ANDRE de Brienne . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been
identified. 1211.

i)ERARD de Brienne (-1278 or after). Seigneur de Ramerupt et de
Venisy. A charter dated Oct 1270 records that "Erar
de Brene chevaliers sires de Venisy" confirmed a sale to Pontigny of
property “qui furent monseigneur Henri de brene qui fu peres au devant dit
Erart”[723].
The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records the confirmation by "Erardus de Brena miles dominus de Venesi et de Balneolis" of grants by
"Philippa quondam domina de Rameruco avia nostra", dated 30
May 1271, which also names "Erardus de Brena avus noster…maritus
dictæ Philippæ"[724].
m ---, daughter of --- & his wife
--- Dame de Cruzilles. The genealogy of the Conflans family, written in
[1350], records that the second wife of Hugues de Conflans maréchal de
Champagne was “la dame de Cruzilles”, who had three daughters “de son
premier seigneur” who married “monseigneur Erard de Brienne seigneur de
Venisy et de Baigniaulx...le seigneur d’Ouche et l’autre...hoirs de l’advoerie
de Therouenne...monseigneur Hue aisné fils dudit mareschal et de sa premiere
femme de Namteuil”[725].
Erard & his wife had one child:

(a)BEATRIX de Brienne (-after
1314). The primary source which
confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Dame de Venisy et de Turny. m (before 1310) GUILLAUME de Joinville
Seigneur de Briquenay, son of GEOFFROY de Joinville Seigneur de
Briquenay & his wife Mabile de Lezinnes (-before Dec 1314).

ii)HENRI de Brienne . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been
identified. 1266

d)MARIE de Brienne (-1251
or after). The Lignages d'Outremer name (in order) "Henrico, Gerardo, Maria, Margarita, Chielvis, Isabella e Joanna" as the seven children of "Girardo de Bregne" and his wife "Philippa, l'altra figlia di Henrico de Campagna"[728].
A manuscript history of the abbey of la Piété de Rameru records that Erard de
Brienne married three of his daughters, of whom "la premiere...Madame
Marie fu Dame de Nantuel...en l’Archeueschié de Rains"[729]. The testament of Gaucher Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, dated
1241, appointed as executors “...Gaucher d’Autrèche chevaliers, Alix dame de
Nanteuil sa mère et Marie de Brienne son épouse”[730]. The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not yet
been identified. m firstlyGAUCHER
de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse, son of GAUCHER [II]
de Châtillon Seigneur de Nanteuil-la-Fosse & his second wife Alix de
Béthune (-before May 1242). m secondly
as his first wife, HUGUES [I] de Conflans Seigneur de Conflans,
son of EUSTACHE [II] Seigneur de Conflans & his wife Helvide de Thourotte
(-after Aug 1271). Maréchal de Champagne.

e)MARGUERITE de Brienne (-Flines 1275, bur Flines).
The Lignages d'Outremer name (in order) "Henrico,
Gerardo, Maria, Margarita, Chielvis, Isabella e Joanna" as the seven
children of "Girardo de Bregne" and his wife "Philippa,
l'altra figlia di Henrico de Campagna"[731]. A manuscript history of the abbey of la Piété de Rameru records
that Erard de Brienne married three of his daughters, of whom "la
tierce...Madame Marguerite fu Dame de Beures en Flandres"[732]. She became a nun at Flines after her husband died[733]. A tomb at Saint-Genois records “Margriete femme Mosr Thiery de
Bevre fille Mosr De Briène...extraicte des rois de Chypres” and her death
in 1275[734].
mDIRK
van Beveren Châtelain de Dixmude, son of DIRK van Beveren &
his wife Isabelle --- ([1223/24]-after 1 Apr 1274).

f)HELOISE de Brienne . The Lignages d'Outremer name (in order) "Henrico, Gerardo, Maria, Margarita, Chielvis, Isabella e Joanna" as the seven children of "Girardo de Bregne" and his wife "Philippa, l'altra figlia di Henrico de Campagna"[735].

g)ISABELLE de Brienne (-[27 Aug 1274/Feb 1277]).
The Lignages d'Outremer name (in order) "Henrico,
Gerardo, Maria, Margarita, Chielvis, Isabella e Joanna" as the seven
children of "Girardo de Bregne" and his wife "Philippa,
l'altra figlia di Henrico de Campagna"[736]. A manuscript history of the abbey of la Piété de Rameru records
that Erard de Brienne married three of his daughters, of whom "la
seconde...Madame Ysabeaus fu comtesse de Grant-pré en Lorraine"[737]. Henri Comte de Grandpré and Isabelle his
wife donated property to the lepers at Royon by charter dated May 1237[738]. "Henricus comes Grandisprati,
jure hereditario nomine...domine Isabellis uxoris ipsius comitis sororis...Erardi
de Brena domini Rameruci" donated property "apud Nogentum
supra Ausum", sold to them by “dictus dominus Erardus”, to
Montiéramey by charter dated Apr 1250[739]. Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré committed to
obtain the consent of Isabelle to an agreement made by him, by charter dated 21
Aug 1274[740].
Henri [V] Comte de Grandpré approved a transaction made by “sa femme alors
défunte” to an agreement made by him, by charter dated Feb 1277[741]. m (before May 1237) HENRI [V] Comte de Grandpré, son of HENRI [IV] Comte de Grandpré & his wife Marie de Garlande (-1287 after 7 Apr).

i)SIBYLLE de Brienne . "Erardus de Brena dominus Rameruci et Philippa eius uxor"
donated property to Molesme, with the consent of “filiis nostris...Henrico
milite et Erardo scutario et filiabus nostris Ioanna, Sibylla et Aelide”,
by charter dated Jan 1264 (misdated)[749]. A manuscript history of the abbey of la Piété de Rameru, when
naming the daughters of Erard de Brienne, records "Damoisele Sebile qui
puis fu abbesse de ceans", the passage indicating that her appointment
took place after the death of her father[750]. Abbess of Ramerupt.

3.ELISABETH de Brienne (-after 1220). The primary
source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Dame de Saint-Valerian. Milon [VII] Seigneur de Noyers confirmed the donation made to Jard
abbey by [his sister-in-law] “Elisabeth de Brienne veuve de Miles seigneur
de Pogy” by charter dated 1220[753]. m (before 1201) MILON Seigneur de
Pougy, son of RENAUD de Pougy & his wife Oda --- (-before
1218).

4.AGNES de Brienne. The primary source which
confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Père Anselme names Agnes
as wife of Clarembaud Seigneur de Noyers[754], which appears impossible from a chronological point of view. “Milo dominus Noeriorum” confirmed the donation to Crisenon
abbey made by “Clarembaudus...pater meus”, with the consent of “Agnes
uxor mea, Milo filius meus et Elisabeth filia mea”, by charter dated Nov 1224[755]. mMILON [VII] Seigneur de Noyers,
son of CLAREMBAUD Seigneur de Noyers & his wife Ada --- ([after 1186]-after
[23 Mar 1231/11 Apr 1232]).

5.ADA de Brienne . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been
identified. 1190.

6.[GUY .
The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.
Master of the Order of Templars 1203/04[756].]