YEONCHEON, South Korea, Jan. 31 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's defense minister on Thursday ordered an early development and deployment of
long-range ballistic missiles that can hit all parts of North Korea.

The first two underground Nuclear Tests were "uneventful", other than immediate UN meetings and sanctions. Maybe 3rd time will be enough for SK and
US to act? They blatantly test weapons, with assistance of IRan and Russia.. And all this talk about the IRanian Programme, eh? I guess
containment is better in this situation.

Where does Kim Jong-un think he's going with it. It's obvious they don't have the resources and they threaten many countries (Specifically the US)
with nuclear threats, war, etc. To get hands out for his people.

Yet it seems no one is biting and playing into it. I don't think they will get far at all.

However I think they will make an attempt to do something. Kim Jong-un doesn't care and this may be a last failed attempt at something.

Martial law? If the wars he wants was justified he wouldn't have to put people into a position where they have no rights to say anything or do
anything.

He's basically forcing them to play along for his own selfish greed. If it was justified then he wouldn't have to do so and people would fight for
the cause.

Kinda like that last punch you throw before you're down for "The count"

I am hoping the war alert is merely defensive in nature, but call out the guard and stack some ammo by the slit in the wall..... I think this test is
crucial to NKs and Irans developing weapons.....I believe both are trying to fit missiles with nukes.....(ie make pysically smaller warheads...)
I have a feeling the only thing stopping Iran is assembly......

The North would have nothing to gain with testing it! Don't they want to ever unite with the south again? So they are just gonna agaisnt thier best
wishes and stay divided? And than what? Declare war and flatten the southern cities with artillery and quite possibly a nuke? Ya there is a real
smart approach to unification. With war they must understand will come further attrition as their enemy plays all cards and no doubt has the means
to deliver with many surgical options on starving out the leaders if thats the case.

Knowing how terrorists work, hiding behind civilians that is. Are these test bunkers below popluated areas? Maybe that is why there has been no
destruction yet. Who wants innocent lives on their hands? Certainly not America and it's allies when it comes to China's allies.

Are we looking at the North Korean version of George W. Bush, in Kim Jong-un? Is this a man who will push a war on the world just to make his dead
father proud? Or is he a man who needs to go to extremes in order to get out from under his father's shadow and make his own legacy?

I think we need to beware, when this Kim Jong pushes the party line established by his father, we don't know how serious he is about living up to
that legacy or worse, outdoing it. It worked for GWB.

It is apparent that our technology surpasses them by a hundred years. Not only can we blow up their nukes the second they launch, but these people are
making themselves look pretty weak when such a small powerless country (in much need of help and assistance) is threatening the super military of the
world. I feel bad and embarrassed for them. They seem really out of touch, these days people are trying to forgive one-another for their mistakes and
forget racism and culture, and simply unite together and work together. Not this guy, he has an agenda to appear like he is a hard-ass. He must be a
really short guy who demands respect?

Originally posted by MidnightTide
This is a tactic of North Korea - they spend all their money on their military and "threaten" the west and its allies when they need food.

Indeed - they have been using the same MO for going on 50 years now.

When they get dangerously close to starvation they rattle the saber a little and like Pavlov's dog we start slobbering all over ourselves to give
them aid...

There are more ways to win a battle than with weapons. They have been winning this particular battle for years.

Our compassion is our own undoing in many situations and this one is no different. We "feel" for the innocent people in N. Korea knowing that they
are being systematically starved so they can maintain a large standing Army so we send them aid, which they will never see. The ruling class will
take their cut off the top of everything, give the rest to the Army, stage a few photo ops of them "distributing" the aid and we won't hear from
them again until they rattle the saber. We will slobber all over ourselves to send them aid again.

If we'd have left them to their own devices years ago the people in N. Korea would have taken the regime out if for no other reason than necessity.
However, I am of the opinion we don't want the regime to go away because we need a boogeyman in the region to justify all the military hardware.

I can really think of no logical or strategic reason to make one's enemy comfortable in their opposition by sending them aid.

It's weird these replies, regarding KJU as some sort of amateur in nuclear war. An amateur with a weapon is still dangerous; no civilization
required to lob bombs at something. It's true, you can't have your warhead and detonate it too, so if he tests this, it may be the last test he
gets to see, ever. Just wondering: how many posters here have managed to brainwash enough people to assemble a nuclear warhead for you and then hype
them up enough to prepare to launch it?

The crazy talk isn't even over because that country could test this on anything. And which nations are his peer support? We sent people over to
tell him to think twice, but there must be other nations bringing their people to NK to suggest which military bases to hit. Ah, there's the
conspiracy.

So this country threat is possibly a red herring to other national threats and news. Because none of us armchair politicians can send anybody over to
verify that NK are doing what the news says, and we know that our MSM lies to us to suit the highest bidder's agenda, how can we know for sure?

I hope KJU uses some sense and lobs the bomb at the nation suggesting he launch it. What if they put that thing into a volcano, just to see what it
would do, wouldn't that be interesting?

The first two underground Nuclear Tests were "uneventful", other than immediate UN meetings and sanctions. Maybe 3rd time will be enough for SK and US
to act? They blatantly test weapons, with assistance of IRan and Russia.. And all this talk about the IRanian Programme, eh? I guess containment
is better in this situation.

However, I never heard words this direct used for War on either side.

Where have you been? Kim Jong-un uses the the specific word "war" all the time! Also, have you forgotten that
China's been caught supplying the DPRK with missle vehicles
(that's only the resource we know about) ignoring UN sanctions against NK? So, you have Iran, Russia, and China... you really think the US will act?

You really think SK is going to act without the US?

This is what's happening:

Originally posted by stirling
I am hoping the war alert is merely defensive in nature, but call out the guard and stack some ammo by the slit in the wall..... I think this test is
crucial to NKs and Irans developing weapons.....I believe both are trying to fit missiles with nukes.....(ie make pysically smaller warheads...)
I have a feeling the only thing stopping Iran is assembly......

I have a feeling their going to blow their own selves up with these nukes. All their launch devices seem to fall back down on them or into the sea.
I had hopes Kim Jong Un would take a path towards peace and maybe even unification, But with unification he might loose his leadership and
totality.
If he were smart.......................... oh well, he's not so it's moot anyway ...

Originally posted by samlf3rd
It is apparent that our technology surpasses them by a hundred years. Not only can we blow up their nukes the second they launch, but these people are
making themselves look pretty weak when such a small powerless country (in much need of help and assistance) is threatening the super military of the
world. I feel bad and embarrassed for them. They seem really out of touch, these days people are trying to forgive one-another for their mistakes and
forget racism and culture, and simply unite together and work together. Not this guy, he has an agenda to appear like he is a hard-ass. He must be a
really short guy who demands respect?

They have the right friends... Their prowess is based in the knowledge that they can proceed and the US will do nothing. That's what happens
when you sell your country to the highest bidder!

We know that China would back North Korea in a war, at least most likely, but we also know that Russia has bad blood with China, and therefore North
Korea by the transitive property. If war broke out with China and the US, I would be willing to bet that Russia would want to settle some old
territory disputes that they have with China. That would be good for those fighting against China. I would think that China would help NK with their
weapons programs much more than Russia would, and in fact I have never seen proof that Russia was offering assistance to NK with anything as serious
as nuclear technology. That is not to say it has not happened, I just have not seen proof of such.

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