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Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by bubbabgone

Nope ... Obama said not leaving 10K troops there would be an enormous mistake. Then in the blink of an eye he swore they'd all be gone. Not because he couldn't get an agreement but because it was politically pleasing to his base. I guess he wasn't serious about that enormous mistake comment. Circumstances hadn't changed that much to remove that enormity.

I think now would be a good time to remind anyone reading these things that Obama is a world class liar.
The most clever type of liar who is always aware of the audience and will say what they want to hear ... but ... will always include some language ... a word ... a phrase ... a reference that will provide him an out in front of a different audience.

So ... for a POTUS debate crowd he pulls out the 10K troops line to sound Presidential and contemplative.
In front of his media he reverses himself without dropping a stitch.

Lol, you do realize that any and every presidents name could be injected where you've placed Obama's name. Any way, it remains remarkable, your desperation that is, to deflect from Bush's HUGE failure in taking his phony "war on terror" to Iraq, a country that may take generations to recover, if it does.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by bubbabgone

Nope ... Obama said not leaving 10K troops there would be an enormous mistake. Then in the blink of an eye he swore they'd all be gone. Not because he couldn't get an agreement but because it was politically pleasing to his base. I guess he wasn't serious about that enormous mistake comment. Circumstances hadn't changed that much to remove that enormity.

I think now would be a good time to remind anyone reading these things that Obama is a world class liar.
The most clever type of liar who is always aware of the audience and will say what they want to hear ... but ... will always include some language ... a word ... a phrase ... a reference that will provide him an out in front of a different audience.

So ... for a POTUS debate crowd he pulls out the 10K troops line to sound Presidential and contemplative.
In front of his media he reverses himself without dropping a stitch.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There!
President Obama's speech formally declaring that the last 43,000 U.S. troops will leave Iraq by the end of the year was designed to mask an unpleasant truth: The troops aren't being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They're leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

you do realize that any and every presidents name could be injected where you've placed Obama's name.

Any way, it remains remarkable, your desperation that is, to deflect from Bush's HUGE failure in taking his phony "war on terror" to Iraq, a country that may take generations to recover, if it does.

HA! I knew you'd do the "they all do it" bit.
No, this guy is far and away the worst.
And the thing is, being the absolute balls-out ideologue that he is, he believes it's just a necessary tool in his arsenal.
You might even say he's a soci...opath (fooled ya, you thought I was gonna say socialist ... relax, yeah, he's both)

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by bubbabgone

HA! I knew you'd do the "they all do it" bit.
No, this guy is far and away the worst.
And the thing is, being the absolute balls-out ideologue that he is, he believes it's just a necessary tool in his arsenal.
You might even say he's a soci...opath (fooled ya, you thought I was gonna say socialist ... relax, yeah, he's both)

Unfortunately yeah, they do all do it and that's because partisans, much as yourself, allow their presidents to get away with it, no, cover it up, justify it, make excuses for it. A republican president once said that if the president does it, it's not illegal. We should want ALL presidents held accountable. Unfortunately though, the partisan left only thinks about that when there's a republican in the White House. Kind of like you only think about it when a democrat is in the White House.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

It's a sign of Mr. Obama's fecklessness that the U.S. has sat by and watched as this rump jihadist state cropped up in part of Iraq. Obama has encouraged this development by his ineffectual policies, just as his coolness toward Israel and warmth toward HAMAS's supporters encouraged Gaza to start the current hostilities. Obama is very cozy with both the Islamist government of Turkey and the government of Qatar, where the U.S. has important military bases.

His past coziness with anti-Semites here is also interesting. Of course I don't suggest Jeremiah Wright was one of these. Just from attending his sermons for twenty years, how could Mr. Obama possibly have known Wright was fast friends with the anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan--so much so that the two once travelled to Libya together to meet Moammar Khaddafi?

One of our so-called journalists might ask Mr. Obama if he's still close to his friend Rashid Khalidi, the former propagandist for Yasser Arafat and the PLO. In Chicago, the Obamas and Khalidis used to have dinner together and babysit each other's kids. When last heard from, Mr. and Mrs. Khalidi were trying to organize another "peace flotilla," with the support of various other leftists and the government of Turkey, to run Israel's blockade and bring supplies (of God knows what description) to the HAMAS government of Gaza. In an earlier attempt to do this, the peaceful types in the flotilla engaged in a deadly attack on Israeli forces who tried to inspect one of the ships.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Unfortunately yeah, they do all do it and that's because partisans, much as yourself, allow their presidents to get away with it, no, cover it up, justify it, make excuses for it. A republican president once said that if the president does it, it's not illegal. We should want ALL presidents held accountable. Unfortunately though, the partisan left only thinks about that when there's a republican in the White House. Kind of like you only think about it when a democrat is in the White House.

I think you may be coming around a bit.
In this case it really comes down to a matter of degree.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by matchlight

It's a sign of Mr. Obama's fecklessness that the U.S. has sat by and watched as this rump jihadist state cropped up in part of Iraq. Obama has encouraged this development by his ineffectual policies, just as his coolness toward Israel and warmth toward HAMAS's supporters encouraged Gaza to start the current hostilities. Obama is very cozy with both the Islamist government of Turkey and the government of Qatar, where the U.S. has important military bases.

His past coziness with anti-Semites here is also interesting. Of course I don't suggest Jeremiah Wright was one of these. Just from attending his sermons for twenty years, how could Mr. Obama possibly have known Wright was fast friends with the anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan--so much so that the two once travelled to Libya together to meet Moammar Khaddafi?

One of our so-called journalists might ask Mr. Obama if he's still close to his friend Rashid Khalidi, the former propagandist for Yasser Arafat and the PLO. In Chicago, the Obamas and Khalidis used to have dinner together and babysit each other's kids. When last heard from, Mr. and Mrs. Khalidi were trying to organize another "peace flotilla," with the support of various other leftists and the government of Turkey, to run Israel's blockade and bring supplies (of God knows what description) to the HAMAS government of Gaza. In an earlier attempt to do this, the peaceful types in the flotilla engaged in a deadly attack on Israeli forces who tried to inspect one of the ships.

It's amazing that anyone could have been elected with his background.
There are reasons for it ... for discussion in a different thread.

Re: US and Islamic State: ‘We did see this coming’

Originally Posted by matchlight

It's a sign of Mr. Obama's fecklessness that the U.S. has sat by and watched as this rump jihadist state cropped up in part of Iraq. Obama has encouraged this development by his ineffectual policies, just as his coolness toward Israel and warmth toward HAMAS's supporters encouraged Gaza to start the current hostilities. Obama is very cozy with both the Islamist government of Turkey and the government of Qatar, where the U.S. has important military bases.

His past coziness with anti-Semites here is also interesting. Of course I don't suggest Jeremiah Wright was one of these. Just from attending his sermons for twenty years, how could Mr. Obama possibly have known Wright was fast friends with the anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan--so much so that the two once travelled to Libya together to meet Moammar Khaddafi?

One of our so-called journalists might ask Mr. Obama if he's still close to his friend Rashid Khalidi, the former propagandist for Yasser Arafat and the PLO. In Chicago, the Obamas and Khalidis used to have dinner together and babysit each other's kids. When last heard from, Mr. and Mrs. Khalidi were trying to organize another "peace flotilla," with the support of various other leftists and the government of Turkey, to run Israel's blockade and bring supplies (of God knows what description) to the HAMAS government of Gaza. In an earlier attempt to do this, the peaceful types in the flotilla engaged in a deadly attack on Israeli forces who tried to inspect one of the ships.