There is a guild on my server that caters to exactly this crowd of players. They have a 25m group and two 10m groups, each of which raids two nights a week. The groups vary between 1/14 HC and 12/14 Reg; I've pugged with them a couple times, and in all three groups non-cloak members outnumber cloaked ones.

Now, if the complaint is that at this point one can't just jump right into heroic raiding, fine, but it's silly to take months off from raiding and then bitch that heroic guilds won't make room. If one is really a hardcore raider, one wouldn't have taken time off before the standard 9-month lull between xpacs. Taking several months off from WoW is often a very good idea, but when I've done it, I've been well aware that I'll probably be rejoining a raid group that is a bit below my skill level for that tier.

So...ONE guild...on ONE server..hardly a representation of raiding guilds as a whole

You know Garrosh's Throne room is the final raid setting for SoO right? That doesn't change the fact that he was flying towards Warlords of Draenor. He flies through a portal and that's the first thing you see following it, the WoD title.

If I wasn't already sure you had some sort of brain damage, I'd hit you with a bat.

trying to level in Tanaris at level 61 sure is tiresome and makes you want to boost right away

Haha. These are the idiots that need the 90 boost, am I right? Players who think being in a zone 20 levels lower than them is helpful. Get ready for the new wave of 90s that you have to teach in all your LFG runs. "What's taunt?" "How do I accept the quest?" "What does LOS mean?" Oh, the good times are a comin.

Haha. These are the idiots that need the 90 boost, am I right? Players who think being in a zone 20 levels lower than them is helpful. Get ready for the new wave of 90s that you have to teach in all your LFG runs. "What's taunt?" "How do I accept the quest?" "What does LOS mean?" Oh, the good times are a comin.

Haha. These are the idiots that need the 90 boost, am I right? Players who think being in a zone 20 levels lower than them is helpful. Get ready for the new wave of 90s that you have to teach in all your LFG runs. "What's taunt?" "How do I accept the quest?" "What does LOS mean?" Oh, the good times are a comin.

There are times where I would take a whole group like this over the clowns at the start of the next expansion who will pull whole rooms because they're doing it now and will think they can then. One group can and will get better; the other is too dumb to help. You decide.

I have watched this like 4 times now. Gives me a smile every time, when I read comments on people trying to come up with a reason to why this poor Gnome is in a desert.. Guys, its a freakin desert. Do you see a sign that says Uldum, Tanaris or whatever? :P No. You see sand, a palm tree and a mailbox. That could be many different places.

Nope. They've said it a bunch of times lately. They said it in response to redesigning Silvermoon, sub races for remodel, and racial looking garrisons lately. The reason you see so many users openly mocking them constantly about it isn't just make believe, it's based on Blizzard comments and people getting sick of them using that excuse. I enjoy the mockery, I chuckle to myself every time I see it.

and yet, those examples you picked are the weakest since they all are wasted development time (I would actually love racial garrisons, but 13 THIRTEEN different building types per race is absurd, also sub races, awesome idea, but still so much more important things than them)