If you are at the point where you are guilty beyond a doubt of a crime that warrants the death penalty then no, i dont think so. Not only do you have no regard for other humans, you are a danger to society..not to mention draining the system of hundreds of dollars a day sitting in prison your whole life.

Im NOT saying i agree with them getting the death penalty for their crime. As i said Indos laws are outdated.

However, i am 10000% pro death penalty for serial killers, serial rapists, pedophiles and the likes.

We aren't talking about paedophiles, we are talking about drug runners, they are world's apart, its like comparing apples and oranges.

Never the less they are criminals all the same! The bali 9 got themselves mixed up with dodgy people to begin with and it's noone else's fault but their own. They were drug mules, everyone knows the consequences of doing this in countries such as bali. Signs are everywhere at the airport and there is much publicity about it. Do the crime, do the time and except the punishment whatever that may be. Our government shouldn't intervene in other countries laws. I do think that they took too long in giving these 2 the death penalty though, it shouldn't drag out so long when it's decided.

Debate thread for discussing the death penalty and the Bali 9

So for the people that believe in the 'do the crime do the time' philosophy no matter what, is there a line to draw somewhere?

Do we agree with being stoned to death for committing adultery or being raped, or having a hand cut off for stealing, or a state-assigned number of lashes for blasphemy? What about jail for sodomy? And just say 'well, that's the punishment in that country, so...meh'?

I don't know how to say this without putting my foot in it. So I'm just going to blurt it out.

I think having the death penalty is a sign of how socially (/intellectually) backwards a place is. The death penalty generally exists where a vast portion of the population has very little/poor education.

Where there is little ability to exercise higher level reasoning and emotional intelligence, animalistic stances such as the death penalty will appeal to the masses.

So for the people that believe in the 'do the crime do the time' philosophy no matter what, is there a line to draw somewhere?

Do we agree with being stoned to death for committing adultery or being raped, or having a hand cut off for stealing, or a state-assigned number of lashes for blasphemy? What about jail for sodomy? And just say 'well, that's the punishment in that country, so...meh'?

Of course there is a line. Just because i believe "well, thats the punishment in that country" doesnt mean i agree with it, just that those are the rules and theres nothing we can do to change it besides avoid ending up in that position.

So for the people that believe in the 'do the crime do the time' philosophy no matter what, is there a line to draw somewhere?

Do we agree with being stoned to death for committing adultery or being raped, or having a hand cut off for stealing, or a state-assigned number of lashes for blasphemy? What about jail for sodomy? And just say 'well, that's the punishment in that country, so...meh'?

I believe in 'do the crime, do the time' unless the 'time' is totally f@rked!

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