It just bothers me to no end, because if you can't make the right choices in life (where decisions affect YOU), then why should I believe that you will try hard and make the best choices to help the team?

I never saw Jerry Rice or Steve Young or Joe Montana do something stupid and make a poor life choice. When did Barry Sanders mess up and get arrested? Oh that's right, never.

And I'm just sitting around with 0 talent doing nothing. I'd gladly trade spots and give it my all 24/7 to help the team. Screw partying and drinking. Winning > all else. Nobody ever made it to the Hall of Fame by partying, smoking pot, and getting arrested. PSH!.... wasting it all away.... bothers me....

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May 29th, 2012, 3:13 pm

kdsberman

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Re: Nick Fairley Busted for Pot

49ers wrote:

It just bothers me to no end, because if you can't make the right choices in life (where decisions affect YOU), then why should I believe that you will try hard and make the best choices to help the team?

I never saw Jerry Rice or Steve Young or Joe Montana do something stupid and make a poor life choice. When did Barry Sanders mess up and get arrested? Oh that's right, never.

And I'm just sitting around with 0 talent doing nothing. I'd gladly trade spots and give it my all 24/7 to help the team. Screw partying and drinking. Winning > all else. Nobody ever made it to the Hall of Fame by partying, smoking pot, and getting arrested. PSH!.... wasting it all away.... bothers me....

Im a young guy, but even I know that this day and age its a real pathetic world.

It just bothers me to no end, because if you can't make the right choices in life (where decisions affect YOU), then why should I believe that you will try hard and make the best choices to help the team?

I never saw Jerry Rice or Steve Young or Joe Montana do something stupid and make a poor life choice. When did Barry Sanders mess up and get arrested? Oh that's right, never.

And I'm just sitting around with 0 talent doing nothing. I'd gladly trade spots and give it my all 24/7 to help the team. Screw partying and drinking. Winning > all else. Nobody ever made it to the Hall of Fame by partying, smoking pot, and getting arrested. PSH!.... wasting it all away.... bothers me....

Can't argue with that.

Seen alot of players just piss away their talent. The problem is you take a young guy, like 21-24 years of age, pay them more signing bonus money than most of us will earn in our lifetime, and expect them to make rational, mature decisions. And that's not to excuse them. These guys (like Fairley) made stupid decicions, and now they will pay for them. Hopefully Fairly and Leshoure will learn and move forward. We'll see.

Allen Park — The Lions did not make defensive tackle Nick Fairley or receiver Titus Young available to the media Tuesday. They were escorted off the practice field by team security personnel after both took part in the organized team activities.

But coach Jim Schwartz had plenty to say on the recent spate of off-field incidents that have plagued Fairley (two arrests in Mobile, Ala., in a month), Young (sucker-punching teammate Louis Delmas) and Mikel Leshoure (two arrests in southwest Michigan in February and March).

"What we have here is a case of a few guys tainting the reputations of a lot of others," he said. "The actions of a few have affected the reputations of not just the other guys on the team but the organization as a whole and obviously, that's not a good situation."

Schwartz was asked if the incidents have made him angry.

"I am a lot of things," he said. "Concerned, angry — a lot of different words. It's disappointing, also, when the story is not about guys like Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Brandon Pettigrew, Rob Sims — and I can list a whole lot more, the majority of the team. Unfortunately, situations like these we all take ownership when problems like these come to light."

Schwartz made it clear that the team wasn't giving up on the players, but they had a lot of work to do to get back in good graces.

"The issues we have here have involved young guys, guys coming off their rookie year," he said. "It's obviously a big concern that the problems have come up more than once with a couple of guys. You always approach this with the idea that guys will make mistakes and learn from them. It appears that a couple of guys haven't.

"It is a concern but they are still young and there is still a lot in front of them. We are hopeful that with the means at their disposal and the means at our disposal, they will eventually be able to put this behind them."

Young, who did not participate in the three OTAs last week, apologized to his offensive teammates and issued a statement before practice.

"My recent actions have not always been up to the standards the Lions expect or the standards that I expect from myself. I am truly sorry for those times when I didn't meet those standards," the statement read. "My absence from the practice facility and the OTAs last week was necessary for both myself and the team.

"The time away from the team afforded me the opportunity to reflect and come to the realization that by putting those incidents behind me I will be able to focus on becoming the best teammate and player that I can be."

He had a very productive practice on Tuesday, but Schwartz said he was far from out of the woods.

"You don't want to say, 'We'll see,' but it's going to be a work in progress," he said. "There are certain criteria for him to be able to come out and practice. He had an outstanding day of practice, but that doesn't erase the incident that has occurred and it doesn't change the process we have for him to stay in good shape with the team and his teammates."

Missing the practice on Tuesday were linebackers Stephen Tulloch (knee) and Doug Hogue (elbow), safety Amari Spievey (undisclosed injury) and defensive end Cliff Avril (unsigned). Delmas left practice after 11 on 11 drills after he rolled his ankle. Schwartz said he didn't think the injury was serious.

Nobody ever made it to the Hall of Fame by partying, smoking pot, and getting arrested. PSH!.... wasting it all away.... bothers me....

See Joe Namath, Lawrence Taylor, heck it's downright probable that Ray Lewis was involved in killing someone.....the list goes on and on....but I get what you are saying and DO agree with you.

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May 30th, 2012, 12:09 pm

m2karateman

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Re: Nick Fairley Busted for Pot

49ers wrote:

It just bothers me to no end, because if you can't make the right choices in life (where decisions affect YOU), then why should I believe that you will try hard and make the best choices to help the team?

I never saw Jerry Rice or Steve Young or Joe Montana do something stupid and make a poor life choice. When did Barry Sanders mess up and get arrested? Oh that's right, never.

And I'm just sitting around with 0 talent doing nothing. I'd gladly trade spots and give it my all 24/7 to help the team. Screw partying and drinking. Winning > all else. Nobody ever made it to the Hall of Fame by partying, smoking pot, and getting arrested. PSH!.... wasting it all away.... bothers me....

This sentiment can be used across a number of different occupations. There are always people who have a great deal of talent who just throw it all away for foolish reasons. People who are gifted artists that just stop drawing/painting/sculpting for whatever reason. Actors who major league screw up, although Hollywood is far more forgiving than professional sports (see Robert Downey Jr.), police officers getting busted for committing crimes, politicians, etc. Most of these people are making good money, and are performing jobs many dream of having to one degree or another.

I will never understand the mindset of a person who seemingly has the world by the short hairs, but wants even more. I don't care what your background is, from the ghetto or from the crystal palace, once you are in a position to make good money doing something most people dream of, it's time to change your lifestyle for the better. Whether it be kicking drugs, changing friends, telling your family to get lost (if that's what has to happen), or settling down to just having one girlfriend (not fathering 10 kids with 8 women), being in that position calls for a big dose of maturity and common sense.

And while I understand that these guys are still very young, most of us had much more common sense than what they are showing at that age.

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May 30th, 2012, 2:49 pm

WarEr4Christ

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Joined: October 26th, 2005, 11:48 pmPosts: 3039Location: Elkhart, In.

Re: Nick Fairley Busted for Pot

Since you called the tune M2K I'd like to chime in with my own two step.

I'm saddend by those in Hollywood, and or Professional Sports and Media that try to influence Mr. and Mrs. Struggling America to jump on board with some cause they are passionate about.

I guarantee you, and mark my words, if I had the upteen millions, I would not go on National T.V. and ask the audience to do x,y,z. I would write the check for the amount requested, and then ask Mr. and Mrs. America to consider giving what they can, over and above.

The media in all forms shows people living it up for themselves, meanwhile the people spending the money that goes into their pockets via cd'd, movies, dvd's and apparel, get nothing.

Just saw Anderson Cooper asking for people to support a matching cause of up to 1 million dollars for something, and I asked myself, why doesn't he just write the check. Drives me insane!

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May 30th, 2012, 3:45 pm

WarEr4Christ

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Joined: October 26th, 2005, 11:48 pmPosts: 3039Location: Elkhart, In.

Re: Nick Fairley Busted for Pot

BTW, wasn't it Nate who wrote the check to replace the stolen football gear for a Detroit High School last year? And we want HIM to hit the road because of WHY?

_________________2 Chronicles 10:14, "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

May 30th, 2012, 3:46 pm

wjb21ndtown

Re: Nick Fairley Busted for Pot

WarEr4Christ wrote:

BTW, wasn't it Nate who wrote the check to replace the stolen football gear for a Detroit High School last year? And we want HIM to hit the road because of WHY?

No, that was Suh and Best, but that's besides the point.

Again, you don't over-pay someone by millions of dollars because they provide $20k worth of charity to a nearby school.

I understand your point but it was on topic, I was discussing CHARACTER, and happened to use an incident out of politics that applied to describe it, and showed the contrast.

but again, it went back to character which is the underlying issue with the men who are acting out of flawed thinking.just sayin....

_________________2 Chronicles 10:14, "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."