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The junior Boies was my screener interviewer. A sharp and nice guy who apparently has a clear vision for the corporate practice. Agree with the previous post that they are looking for partner materials with business acumen. I also got the impression that they will give you real responsibilities as junior associates. Also interviewed with PW, an uninspiring firm with condescending pricks who get off giving people a hard time.

Anonymous User wrote:The junior Boies was my screener interviewer. A sharp and nice guy who apparently has a clear vision for the corporate practice. Agree with the previous post that they are looking for partner materials with business acumen. I also got the impression that they will give you real responsibilities as junior associates. Also interviewed with PW, an uninspiring firm with condescending pricks who get off giving people a hard time.

Anonymous User wrote:The junior Boies was my screener interviewer. A sharp and nice guy who apparently has a clear vision for the corporate practice. Agree with the previous post that they are looking for partner materials with business acumen. I also got the impression that they will give you real responsibilities as junior associates. Also interviewed with PW, an uninspiring firm with condescending pricks who get off giving people a hard time.

You know I don't fully get why/how the groupthink around some firms forms. It's probably entirely partner-to-partner and I'd totally believe that PW and Cleary are among the best in terms of overall culture, but I can totally see where someone would have the impression bolded above. My PW interviewer pushed me to "get political" when we were discussing a topic from my summer work that had a political aspect I didn't really want to discuss.

I thought I was the odd man out, but I know others who have had similar experiences. It was kinda disappointing considering I know some awesome people who will be starting soon at PW.

Anonymous User wrote:The junior Boies was my screener interviewer. A sharp and nice guy who apparently has a clear vision for the corporate practice. Agree with the previous post that they are looking for partner materials with business acumen. I also got the impression that they will give you real responsibilities as junior associates. Also interviewed with PW, an uninspiring firm with condescending pricks who get off giving people a hard time.

You know I don't fully get why/how the groupthink around some firms forms. It's probably entirely partner-to-partner and I'd totally believe that PW and Cleary are among the best in terms of overall culture, but I can totally see where someone would have the impression bolded above. My PW interviewer pushed me to "get political" when we were discussing a topic from my summer work that had a political aspect I didn't really want to discuss.

I thought I was the odd man out, but I know others who have had similar experiences. It was kinda disappointing considering I know some awesome people who will be starting soon at PW.

(that said the bolded was still pretty douchey)

Yeah, I mean anyone can get 5 meh-to-bad interviewers at a firm/office that size. Still, it's not like I think the places I had boring-ish callbacks at are "uninspiring" or whatever.

Come on, people are allowed to form opinions, and all opinions are biased in the sense that one can never collect the full set of data. Since OP here is asking for opinions from sources that probably talked to only a few people at a firm, I don't see why it is wrong/questionable to share some genuine, if subjective, impressions of a firm one had callback with. One has a right to feel some firm is more inspiring than others why the censure?

Anon from above:I mean if you add the average bonus from BSF plus the base salary over 5 years and compare that to Cravath. It's a pretty substantial difference (too lazy to do the math right now, but I'm guessing it could be a couple hundred thousand dollars). Losing out on that, because you have a hunch you might get more work at another V15 is debatable... but if you have hard data that there's not enough work to get a bonus, that's another thing and a much closer call.

There is a base salary bump, but IMO not worth it to work at a no name corporate practice. This isn't the Susman Godfrey of M&A law here. It's a legit no name practice. You won't just get more work at other firms, but you'll also work on more sophisticated deals with more sophisticated counterparties, and the experience and reputation definitely improves exits.

Anon from above:Ha. Well we can agree to disagree. I think as an associate that's not likely to make partner the extra money might come in handy. I loved this line, though: "This isn't the Susman Godfrey of M&A law here."

Anonymous User wrote:Anon from above:Ha. Well we can agree to disagree. I think as an associate that's not likely to make partner the extra money might come in handy. I loved this line, though: "This isn't the Susman Godfrey of M&A law here."

Isn't that short sighted? If you confident you're not going to make partner, best to maximize your chances at a good landing spot by choosing a firm that gives you that...

Anon from above:Yeah I suppose it could be. If there's a huge difference in exit opportunities, then definitely. But this is all conjecture and, all I'm saying money is real. ITE, taking a couple hundred thousand extra dollars (if that's the case here) is not the most myopic thing in the world.