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... I ... we'll see ... a conquest discounts as the holidays ... approach ... is often and more portly how you get what let's talk to Mr Joe White he's writes the Eyes on the road that's a column for us here and Wall Street Journal Joe ... if any new car I should be looking at some of these if I had the cache County were the makers who are doing this ... so let's go on the last time ... the ... race is the Number one of us so that it was a caresses us ... are busy BMW and Mercedes are ... leading the pack they got really deserve last weekend with their prices ... on holiday Pushes ... and they are they are Chris is pretty ... good looking deals try to get you ... to get to the bottom of their hearts against the ... ideas yet he she shot rounds of the forty so I really pollster in this case because of these companies ... are really with either she ... she you and all the euro in it or ... grab ... from the other guy you deals to put you in their hearts so ... I'm trying not to say the end of the euro on life and Mercedes are howling they're going to be more likely to give me a sweet deal cuz they're trying to convert me from one of the maker to be in love with with them ... absolutely ... absolutely and you only do try not to Wichita to get up ... they have ... as much as seven hundred and fifty dollars of additional money that they that they can get you ... to tendencies to to get out there out in five cities were were were ... were persons I like that ... some of the most easily work here drive ... left rebrand target this ... year you might get you get the money to drive a new Chevrolet as they just want to and there are ... now ... people might say look you know I'm going to be and that the customer I'm a loyal Mercedes customer ... what they can do for me they keep me in the fall that one that will kind of change in times of change are they throwing out the people that to stay with them ... well ... they're glad you asked that question the Tuesday dealers have ... been answered yes they're they're offering cash ... there are cache roughly the same amount of what I understand is under thirty dollars or so but there's something else Mercedes and BMW open bets you are ... an ace up with sales of Mercedes C class you come back any say well you know I have four months ago in five months ago the sleaze ... of love these deals but limited to ... the dealers ... when it was a you what to do this I hear every bite ... the speech of a new car and that something that again it's not ... so random is that they are doing pretty aggressively the season ... new cars in particular here but what about people who say they may want to ... opt into a certified pre owned vehicle was saying BMW Mercedes and this is often a way for people who may not have the cash to buy these new cars even with these discounts the sort of debt barefoot into the luxury market can you see any deals ... with the certified pre owned cars ... the all eyes are on the Korean cars is that they don't know this is this ... year's go inside ... but there ... are ... there are three deals and hit a bases loaded walk ... in years while those for three or four years of hard ... to produce ... now it's coming back on the ... market are getting back in the market while people buy electric cars ... and and and they they they think that they pushing out they can grab hold of great people and houses to them and their friends for years time so they're there for demoted its citizens in this is the lawless ... one last quick question for you why are the German monthly auto makers devoting so much time energy in particular ... to the U S market right now ... well because there are European market ... our list this year where there is for the chance that ... anyone for the luxury brands is pretty slack euro ... in China which is the booming market up sales also slowed down so the of the ... various lists this a lot more to ship cars that were going to China ... for use in your ... at the beginning of your production of the United States is that that that knit and sew up on supplies are super rich guys are going to get somewhat better get ... a ticket for us and perhaps is that they're all wheel drive three Series just ensure aspires to be a much better supplied over the next ... several weeks ... and are able to make it with that are alright why ... if I've gone ... on to read more about that I get a ... pretty good Dion Luxury vehicle mine in the Pursell Journal can thank the cast your mind right ...