She now admits, however, that “Out Of The Woods,” addresses a troubled relationship. “This song is about the fragility and kind of breakable nature of some relationships. This was a relationship where I was kind of living day to day, wondering where it was going, if it was going to go anywhere, if it was going to end the next day,” she says. Swift goes on, “It was a relationship where you kind of never feel like you’re standing on solid ground.”

“That kind of a feeling brings on excitement but also extreme anxiety and kind of frantic feeling of wondering—endless questions,” says the songstress. “And this song sounds exactly like that frantic feeling of anxiety and questioning, but it stresses that even if a relationship is breakable and fragile and full of anxiety, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t worthwhile, exciting, beautiful and all the things that we look for.” The song, which Swift says is “one of her favorites,” was co-written with Jack Antonoff of fun.

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