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Last year, with all the, questionable goings on with forum-apps out there, on P8ntballer we decided to ditch tapatalk from our forum.

Despite having a responsive design, many of our users simply preferred browsing in an App format. As such we started working on our own app ran and controlled by ourselfs.

A few of you may already know this and some have asked about getting a copy of the App for their own forums. So im putting this thread simply to estimate the interest on if we were to have this developed in a more open format - that is either in a white-labelable version purchasable by the forum owners, or a more generic current style app where after installing an addon to your forum, the users can then add the forum to the app and access all the forums they take part in from it.

We have yet to work out pricing, or sustainability, but most likely a more generic-free type app would be supported via in-app adverts, most likely inserted after a first post, and a more white label version would be a subscription based service for the forum owner.

Here are some WIP screens, we are aiming to simplify things down considerably, get rid of a lot of useless fluff and get the apps made to encourage posting and interactions via a variety of methods.

One of the main things we want to do is ensure the app simply works between itself, and your forum, no 3rd party signups required, no copies of anything saved by us. We want to give people confidence to use the app knowing that their stuff, stays with them

That would be much appreciated. Our site is happy to pay for things that offer real improvement, but we only have tens of thousands of posts, so the numbers won't work out if the subscription is too high. At the same time, the world is definitely going mobile, so having an app could help us retain members.

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Ohh, would love to have a play with the P8ntballer one. Not seen anything about it.

I think it would be nice to have it as a 'XenForo' app that can be searched for and downloaded by a user from an app store allowing the user to log into all of the XenForo forums that they frequent and switch between them from the single app.

The standard 'XenForo' branded app could allow users to view any XenForoApp (XFA) enabled forum in a generic default XF skin using the app.

This could be free to the admin and free to the user, with in app ads being served and the revenue being split between XF and the forum admin.

This add supported free version would make an app option freely accessible to all admins and users. Making it free to install and utilise at a basic level removes barriers to install and encourages a high install rate among users, the key to getting those push notification from the website to their phone. Good for both admins and users.

If the user wishes to remove the ads on a particular forum, they make an in app payment to remove the ads.
This could be a single payment to remove them for a week, a month, a year or permanently.
Or a recurring payment to remove them weekly, monthly, or yearly.

The price of this could be set by the forum admin and the proceeds could be divided between the forum admin and XF. They could possibly also be tied to usergroup promotions to allow easier purchase of user upgrades.

EDIT: Alternatively an admin could perhaps pay XF a fee to remove them if they don't want to past the cost onto their users.

If an admin wants their forum to stand out in XFA and personalise it, they could pay XF reasonable 'skinning' fee to allow them to customise the look and feel of their forum when viewed in XFA. This could include logo, node icons, default avatar images, any standard image essentially, colour scheme etc.

In addition to all this, if the big gun forum admins wish to white label the entire app so they have their own dedicated listing in the app store and therefore icon on a users device then this could be a premium option. It would essentially always be the most current version of XFA with all the skinning options of the original XFA app, but not share access to other forums from within the custom app.

This would be great for sites that want to maintain a strong individual brand or say private companies that want their own professional looking app (and app listing) and have the money to do so.

Even if an admin purchases this premium white label option, it would be good if the users could still log into that site using the main XFA. This may be desirable for forum power users who frequent many sites, but don't want 10 different apps installed on their device.

Official XenForo addon support would most likely be added, once the initial posting and replying side was in a very good shape. 3rd party addon support however would be tricky, but I have some ideas. The downside is the 3rd party dev would need to pay to have their addons requested functionality added to the app. It most likely would also not be "core" app functionality, rather an option a user can then add when browsing that particular forums site in the app.

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To explain that last point, lets say @Brogan site Clip the Apex had the addon, Paul paid to have the following added and added some code extending the apps API to xenforo, so when opening up his forum it gives the user to option to see the featured threads as the first screen, rather than the forum list for example....

3 downsides immediately spring to mind.

1) Cost to Brogan
2) Maintaining compatibility with the App, new functionality in the addon would not work in the app until or even if they ever were added.
3) Exposing this to the app user. Would they want it as an option? Chosen by the forum admin? Mix of both?

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I think the important thing will be ensuring that XFA can walk before it can run and it gets the basics perfected and polished.

Primary focus on secure, reliable, fast and fluid interaction with a XF forum that utilises all user, moderator and admin functionality included with the core product.

Secondary focus on exactly the same as above, but with XMG.

Edit: Tertiary focus on the same, but with Resource Manager, sorry, forgot about that one

That's a quite a tall order in itself. Tapatalk have at least 6 people working on their product full time, and we've seen some of the difficulties they've encountered.

Perfect the basics before considering trying to integrate with 3rd party developers. Leave that functionality to when the user interacts with a site through a desktop browser. If they really want to browse a portal and just read articles, they can do that on the browser on their phone.

Most 3rd party add-ons aren't 'necessary' for every forum and if it becomes detrimental to the overall quality of the XFA and the experience for the user, it's not worth it.