a thin and effeminate man with a soft-sounding voice that sounds almost exactly like the "Mr. New Castrati" voice used by Rush Limbaugh on his program. In fact, Silver could easily be the poster child for the New Castrati in both image and sound.

His voice sounds like the voices of teenage boys who were ordered to be castrated by priests and popes, therefore, 4+4=9?

Seriously, GOP, you're just coming down off the rape high; do you really, really want to drag the long written history of conservative religious organizations surgically altering children to make them sound more pleasing? How 'bout you just go play with the vaginal ultrasound probe for the night and think it over, m'kay?

Not only is the Right flailing, so is the regular media - if they just reported "Yeah, Obama is pretty much going to win a second term" nobody would bother watching any more. I'm sure stuff like this will get as much currency as possible until after November 6th. They're not so much in favor of liberals as they are in favor of as many people watching/reading as possible. A close race is more interesting and more newsworthy. They've practically been falling through their own a-holes waiting for an October Surprise so that they could spend 24 hours a day analyzing it.

Osomatic:They've practically been falling through their own a-holes waiting for an October Surprise so that they could spend 24 hours a day analyzing it.

I've noticed that too.

themindiswatching:log_jammin: I have a feeling we will never hear anything else about "UnSkewedPolls.com" after November.

UnskewedPolls was always right. It's just that the damn liberal voter fraud was too great to overcome or something.

/awaits statisticals

Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

That said, about 48% of the country is going to wake up the next day angry, I guess. We're all being lied to, at least a little bit. Some of us are being lied to about how "both sides are the same so why bother voting." And there are many, many other lies.

My goal is to be one of the people in power lying to you and yours and enjoying the fruits of my lies, which include gout-inducing foods and nubile maidens. Mostly the maidens.

log_jammin:Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

It's a baffling phenomenon to me; the people who can successfully lie to themselves. In my experience there is a correlation between those people and early life religious indoctrination.

Everyone lies to themselves to an extent, but not like this. The right has made it into an art form.

Don't like what the polls say? well head over to unskewedpolls.com where we skew the polls to make you feel better.what's that? read an article with facts that make your opinion illogical and wrong? well just dismiss it as "biased" and go on with what you were doing!Oh..The Harvard educated president who worked his way up in life to become exactly what the American dream is supposed to be about, has a few minor beliefs that you disagree with? that's too bad. well just call him a socialist and/or Nazi so you can ignore whatever he says!

Yesterday, my boss said, "Judy, we're just like the people in 'What's the Matter With Kansas.; By supporting the Democratic party, we're going against our own self-interests. Why is that?" Then he said, "Because we care about our country, not ourselves." I think I need a raise. He's not paying me enough to place me up there with him.

MorrisBird:Yesterday, my boss said, "Judy, we're just like the people in 'What's the Matter With Kansas.; By supporting the Democratic party, we're going against our own self-interests. Why is that?" Then he said, "Because we care about our country, not ourselves." I think I need a raise. He's not paying me enough to place me up there with him.

Frederick:log_jammin: Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

It's a baffling phenomenon to me; the people who can successfully lie to themselves. In my experience there is a correlation between those people and early life religious indoctrination.

You may have something there, but... what about people who get no religious indoctrination? We've been raising our child as, basically, "nothing." We're not religious, but we don't say religious people are bad. We tell him that it's up to him what to believe without telling him what we (his mom and I) believe, which is, well, nothing. When he came back from his pre-school filled with ideas about God, we said "well, that's what some people believe." I like to think we're raising him to create his own beliefs, but... sometimes I wonder. We've also tried to show him and talk to him about what science says, without being dogmatic about it. I fear we may have been a bit dogmatic about stuff like psychics and astrology, though. But I feel okay about that, really. That stuff is just stupid - I don't think anybody would consider us to be "indoctrinating" him if we warned him off of false advertising, for instance. Still, we've done our very best to be hands-off with religion.

And I guess I wonder... this is a *really* smart kid, but one who has been actually diagnosed with at least mild ADD or ADHD... what is he going to end up believing? I wish I knew. We tried so hard to just leave it open but I'm not sure we succeeded.

MorrisBird:Osomatic: And I guess I wonder... this is a *really* smart kid, but one who has been actually diagnosed with at least mild ADD or ADHD... what is he going to end up believing?

With any luck, he won't believe in pop psychology. Your baby is fine. Medicine, especially psychological, is mostly shamanism.

That's fine, though my wondering was mostly about religion. And I'm going to disagree with you about medicine, at least as it is practiced in the place where I work: We do evidence-based medicine. Things that work are kept, things that don't are chucked.

Osomatic:Frederick: log_jammin: Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

It's a baffling phenomenon to me; the people who can successfully lie to themselves. In my experience there is a correlation between those people and early life religious indoctrination.

You may have something there, but... what about people who get no religious indoctrination? We've been raising our child as, basically, "nothing." We're not religious, but we don't say religious people are bad. We tell him that it's up to him what to believe without telling him what we (his mom and I) believe, which is, well, nothing. When he came back from his pre-school filled with ideas about God, we said "well, that's what some people believe." I like to think we're raising him to create his own beliefs, but... sometimes I wonder. We've also tried to show him and talk to him about what science says, without being dogmatic about it. I fear we may have been a bit dogmatic about stuff like psychics and astrology, though. But I feel okay about that, really. That stuff is just stupid - I don't think anybody would consider us to be "indoctrinating" him if we warned him off of false advertising, for instance. Still, we've done our very best to be hands-off with religion.

And I guess I wonder... this is a *really* smart kid, but one who has been actually diagnosed with at least mild ADD or ADHD... what is he going to end up believing? I wish I knew. We tried so hard to just leave it open but I'm not sure we succeeded.

When as a kid I began to question obvious flaws in the Christian bible and other seemingly bright kids around me were not, I made note of it. I never understood how they could reconcile logical flaws with religious dogma.

I was raised in a similar environment to your son. Both my parents grew up in the church and then had a falling out (mother = Italian Catholic / father = German Lutheran). Religion was always by my choice only. I attended a Christian bible school by choice, and quit going by my choice. I attended mass sometimes and youth group because I liked the kids who went to that church. Ultimately I chose to eschew religion and I claim agnostic.

But I can tell you there are cons to being agnostic or religiously void. I feel I am by nature a spiritual person, and I never found a satisfactory outlet for that spirituality. And the older I get the more I feel like I'm missing that outlet.

"He claims to have been highly accurate in predicting the 2008 election results, and perhaps he was. But it's highly unlikely his current methods and projections will have the level of accuracy unless he changes then quite a lot between now and election day. The race has shifted profoundly in favor of Mitt Romney while Nate Sillver is still projecting an Obama win. Unless he changes that, the credibility he earned in 2008 will be greatly diminished after this years election."

Until the gay guy alters reality to show us what we want to hear, he's wrong.

For how much the right accuses the left of ignoring facts in favor of emotion there is no group on earth who more vigorously eschews solid evidence in favor of "it can't be that way because I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel in my heart of Jesus 'n' Reagan blessed hearts that it just ain't so" than the modern GOP.

For more evidence look at the debate over Voter ID. No matter how many studies are done saying in-person voter fraud is about as prevalent of sightings of Amelia Earhart giving Bigfoot an Albanian Otter Squat on the hood of Elvis' UFO the response from the GOP shills is "I *KNOW* voter fraud is happening! Didn't you see those black guys dressed up in camo??"

I was having trouble getting my girlfriend out of bed this morning so she can make me breakfast. When I read this, I laughed loud enough to wake her up. And, in a few moments now, I will be eating delicious pancakes and bacon.

Mr. Coffee Nerves:No matter how many studies are done saying in-person voter fraud is about as prevalent of sightings of Amelia Earhart giving Bigfoot an Albanian Otter Squat on the hood of Elvis' UFO the response from the GOP shills is "I *KNOW* voter fraud is happening!

Paris1127:Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter how many studies are done saying in-person voter fraud is about as prevalent of sightings of Amelia Earhart giving Bigfoot an Albanian Otter Squat on the hood of Elvis' UFO the response from the GOP shills is "I *KNOW* voter fraud is happening!

While many conservatives look to former Clinton political consultant Dick Morris to understand the polls and political surveys on the elections, or even a site like UnSkewedPolls.com, those on the left look to New York Times blogger Nate Silver

Cross out "conservatives" and write in "morons".Cross out "those on the left" and write in "those who are not".

Yeah. If Obama wins, they'll wake up the next day angry at the world but will never consider the possibility they were lied to and lied to them selves. I don't get how people go through life like that.

That said, about 48% of the country is going to wake up the next day angry, I guess. We're all being lied to, at least a little bit. Some of us are being lied to about how "both sides are the same so why bother voting." And there are many, many other lies.

Basically this. November 7 is going to be absolutely unbearable for half this country. We just dont know which half.

UnSkewed Polls guy can't be trusted because he's a blob of pus and serves greasy pork sandwiches in dirty ashtrays.

I sometimes entertain the possibility that he truly believes his method is more correct, and is just a fantastically crappy statistician, who incidentally is a blob of pus. Then I realize that nobody is that stupid.

The reality is that he's just an evil shill, serving the intellectual equivalent of greasy pork sandwiches in dirty ashtrays at the direction of his Republican masters.

All this guy (and most of the media really) is doing is setting lots of people up for a huge fall.

There are people I know that had pretty much given up on Romney before the debates. They were ready to accept that they had an awful candidate and were in for another four years of the usurper. Now, I believe that riots and other forms of violence are an actual possibility when reality comes crashing down upon them around 9:30 PM on election night. And nothing changed other than the media wanting to make it look like a horse-race.

And if and when the violence comes, they will all be right there reporting it and wondering how such a terrible thing could happen.

Osomatic:Not only is the Right flailing, so is the regular media - if they just reported "Yeah, Obama is pretty much going to win a second term" nobody would bother watching any more. I'm sure stuff like this will get as much currency as possible until after November 6th. They're not so much in favor of liberals as they are in favor of as many people watching/reading as possible. A close race is more interesting and more newsworthy. They've practically been falling through their own a-holes waiting for an October Surprise so that they could spend 24 hours a day analyzing it.

its not just a close race, I listen to POTUS radio a lot (Politics Of The United States for the People Of The United States for people who dont pay attention to XM) a reasonably unbiased station over all and they werent just going with it was a close race but they were going over the gallup poll and talking to people on the ground reporting what they saw as a genuine swell of support for Mitt Romney, and were openly questioning whether Obama should try and fight it out or make some kind of grand last stand on his principles because he knew he was going to be beat and wanted to try and frame his legacy.

this was just a day or two mind, so after all the mitt-mentum had died out in the polls.