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Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

Originally Posted by Pehu

There seems to be some pretty serious memory issues for Ryzen setups at the moment? At least some (probably many) reports of people being unable to run memory stable past 2400Mhz. I'm probably going to built a smallish Ryzen system based on the Ryzen 5 1600X, which I think is a good compromise, with high clocks out of the box and more cores than Socket 1151 Intel counterparts. Want some more info about the memory issues though.

To put it simply, AMD gurantees nothing over ddr4-2666 speeds. Depending on DIMMs and density, you could be running as lows as 2133. Any speed above that is not guaranteed, and backed only by the mobo maker.

Furthermore XMP profiles for Intel don't seem to work, so people are having to set timings maually.

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

I am intending to go for:

1800x
x370 Taichi
GPU not decided yet, 580, Fury (like the PCWorld watercooled Ryzen review), 1080, but now I am reading about the new Vega...
2 x 8Gb RAM,
SSD of some description
watercooling, if possible, "off the shelf", the PCWorld review used 240 Predator that apparently is not available to buy.
Ultra Wide monitor 3440 x 1440

But I have yet to buy any of it, and I will be doing a lot of reading and asking questions as I build. I am also quite concerned about the amount of power this thing will need, upwards of 300W . oh dear.

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

Originally Posted by mr_raider

To put it simply, AMD gurantees nothing over ddr4-2666 speeds. Depending on DIMMs and density, you could be running as lows as 2133. Any speed above that is not guaranteed, and backed only by the mobo maker.

Furthermore XMP profiles for Intel don't seem to work, so people are having to set timings maually.

Seems to make sense, and this to me is valuable information. To me, it makes sense because as many of us know, AMD is not the same as Intel. There is an ever increasing gap in the way their chips use system memory. It has been this way ever since the company began designing their own cpu and collaborating to engineer the motherboards for them. I'm not sure of the best way to put it, but I have always said that AMD tends to use system memory more aggressively, and this attempt to use it as process efficiently as possible manifests itself through design and manufacturing deficiencies of system memory. What Im saying is, we'll have to wait for the improvements from both sides of the fence, ram module manufacturers, and AMD to start seeing tweak wiggle room. It's more an indication of the fundamentally radical new design than it is a company that sucks at CPU manufacturing. We've seen this quite a few times I think.

...Does anybody else feel like Congress simply bailed themselves out? Isn't that what they really mean by a bailout?

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

Regarding memory timings and Ryzen, a lot has changed over the past several months in terms of BIOS maturity. Since Gigabyte's June BIOS release I've been able to run Geil EVO X 3200 @ 3200 Mhz & Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 @ 2933 Mhz (there is no multiplier for 3000) on both the Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 and GA-AX370-Gaming 5 boards without problems.

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

I don't plan on building a pc until memory and video card prices stop being insanely high. If they dont, then I wont. I'll find old parts and put them together if the one I have dies. It's not AMD's fault, but that's where I stand for the foreseeable future. But hey always enjoy hearing people's experiences...

...Does anybody else feel like Congress simply bailed themselves out? Isn't that what they really mean by a bailout?

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

I'm starting to think about a new build at some point, but just not sure which way I will go, be it Intel or AMD. Have a SATA M.2 SSD on a PCI Express SATA M.2 card that I boot from, but kinda thinking about an upgrade to a board with M.2 slot for my boot drive.

The motherboard looks good, and even has two M.2 slots on it for M.2 SSD's.

Don't post much anymore here, have too many things going on with life.

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

Originally Posted by Nightowl224

I'm starting to think about a new build at some point, but just not sure which way I will go, be it Intel or AMD. Have a SATA M.2 SSD on a PCI Express SATA M.2 card that I boot from, but kinda thinking about an upgrade to a board with M.2 slot for my boot drive.

The motherboard looks good, and even has two M.2 slots on it for M.2 SSD's.

Don't post much anymore here, have too many things going on with life.

well hello !
For Me I found that my board troubles on my Z270 began with a bios update that was supposed to fix the specture security flaw ( or however its spelled ) I just could not get the board to run right until I downgraded the to a older , non patched bios and troubles went bye bye That kinda soured Me to intel . So AMD here I come . Shame as the 7600K is no slouch
I see hardly anyone posting here , shame …

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

On the flip side, my 5 year old Core i7 4770 still runs everything out there just fine, which on that side of things I'm thinking about upgrading to 32GB's of DDR3 1600 ram, replacing all platter HD's with SSD's, and getting a 34inch WQHD monitor. That's what make it tough to do an upgrade, do I stick with my system which is running things great to this day, or do an upgrade. My built my current system to last quite awhile.

Re: Ryzen - What is your planned build?

Originally Posted by Nightowl224

On the flip side, my 5 year old Core i7 4770 still runs everything out there just fine, which on that side of things I'm thinking about upgrading to 32GB's of DDR3 1600 ram, replacing all platter HD's with SSD's, and getting a 34inch WQHD monitor. That's what make it tough to do an upgrade, do I stick with my system which is running things great to this day, or do an upgrade. My built my current system to last quite awhile.

Yes you will notice a way better system upgrading those hard drives , what I like on these newer systems is the M.2 drives , wow they rock curenlty running a Samsung 960 250mb MVME drive and geez this thing is fast , nice not to have any SATA cables exceptmy optical drive .
I pushed the button on a AMD 2600X this morning got a killer deal at 185 shipped ! and wouldn't you know it . now my intel system is stable once I downgraded the bios to a non patched Spectre bios and from what I am reading even the newest intel cpu's still have that security flawhttps://techreport.com/news/33874/in...-gen-core-cpus
anyway with or with out the security issue it will be nice NOT to have integrated graphics on my cpu that I will never use .
I am getting my motherboard from new egg nice to have one about a mile away