A screen-grab from the video, above, says 1000 words. But in case you want the full video, here it is:

A few years ago, there was a report that SawStop was developing a $400 table saw equipped with their flesh detection and brake technologies. However, that has not yet materialized.

If what is shown above is a SawStop-equipped Festool table saw that’s nearly ready to be announced in the [European] market, I can all but guarantee that it won’t be anywhere near $400 USD. Festool makes some great tools, but that quality doesn’t come cheap.

It should not come as a surprise that Festool developed a table saw featuring SawStop tech. After all, when the acquisition was announced, it was very clear that Festool would be utilizing SawStop’s active injury mitigation technology.

Using Google Translate, the video description says:

Our trainers are currently preparing for the Construction Fair so that they can answer any questions about the innovative SawStop technology. Experience the machine live at the construction fair from 4 to 8 February.

Oh, there are so many questions, the first two being: 1) will it be available in the USA?, and 2) how much will it cost?

Most tool users know Festool but not TTS, and Festool is the only obvious brand that would be enhanced by the acquisition, and so I let myself be lazy about the distinction. I’ll add clarification soon, but the posts about the actual acquisiton have full details.

John.
I’m curious why you feel so strongly about the holding company being acknowledged as the SawStop acquirer?
I’m pretty sure almost no one in NA knows their name or much cares.
Should we for some good and interesting reason?
No. Really. I’m (we’re?) curious.
Thanks.

Yes, the lion’s share of Festool’s manufacturing is out of Germany; however, most SawStop saws and accessories are out of Taiwan. This would aid in a lower (by no means cheap, though) price point. I would guess we will see a variety of accessories (extended table, fence, attachable router table, outfeed support, etc.) right along side the launch. I’d give it another two years to hit the US market.

Another recent announcement by Festool/TTS (po-tay-toe, po-taw-toe) is that they acquired Shaper Origin. It will be interesting to see what that might yield down the road. I know the Shaper Origin might not be everyone’s cup of tea, however for those of us that jumped in and got one, it is nice to see a larger entity backing them up.

Wow I didn’t know that, thats pretty big news. But I guess it isn’t that strange seeing as how closely Shaper has been working with Festool even incorporating their spindles and tech in their Origin CNC:

Although still roughly based on the CMS table it isn’t going to be powered by a flipped tracksaw that iis nserted as the CMS was. The CMS allowed multiple tool drop ins like router etc. If it was still modular and could actually use one table and swap out saw like CMS…that would be awesome!

That table saw design looks completely bizarre to me, as do other European table and miter saws I’ve seen. For example, why are there fence mounts on all four sides of the saw? And why such a narrow cutting surface?

Any table saw which can’t rip a sheet of plywood in half is completely useless to me. I realize they don’t use 4×8 sheets across he pond, but don’t they use the metric equivalent of 5×5, like the imported baltic birch one can find in the US? In that case one would need at least a 30” ripping capacity.

I would presume that since their portfolio includes pretty good track saws that can easily do the plywood ripping function, they might feel that the table saw is more useful for ripping dimensional lumber, as shown in the video.

Nathan S is right, track saws are where it’s at for breaking down sheet goods, full stop. A full sheet of plywood on a table saw is dangerous, inaccurate, slower, and requires at least 128 square feet of space. If you’ve never tried one you owe it to yourself to give it a chance. My next move is to keep my old Sears radial arm saw, get rid of my table saw, and get a cordless track saw. That bit of kit and my mitre saw will fill all my needs for now.

I love my Kpex and other festool tools but a rebranded SawStop is not of interest. Honestly the crap saw stop was pulling with trying to standardize their technology and create lawsuits against other table saws so they could charge a premium for their patent. Not only that but Bosh came out with a better idea that doesn’t cost an arm and a finger 😉 to replace the parts (way more than 10% different) and they some how win a lawsuit. So no, if it’s saw stop or rebranded, I won’t buy that junk. I hope festool didn’t over pay those jerks.

Intellectual property is only protected untimely by patents. Under the doctrine of equivalents Bosch was easily clear of any infringement.
Their system is better and thus if Saw Stop cared how much it cost to reattach a finger they would have said yay for capitalism! But instead they trolled social media for lawsuits to try and standardize their idea which would force all major table saw companies to pay royalties for their idea. As we see today it didn’t work and when competition showed up within it’s legal rights, somehow ($$$), they won the case.
I get it, what I don’t get is why anybody would stop another company from helping improve the safety of tools and employees. But I get that too, greed.

I don’t know that the bosch system was better pre se I think it had a few issues too.

But I liked that they came out with something. I’d like some of the other companies to do the same and I’d like to see that applied to thinks like recip saws and maybe while difficult – hand held circular saws.

Anyway festool having one doesn’t surprise me – it costing a small fortune also doesn’t surprise me. Seeing them put it into something else would be a big deal.

Looks like the comparable Festool CS50 sells for between 1550-1860 pounds (how that may change with other currencies, I do not know). I’m guessing the $400 saw that was in-the-works a while back is still, in fact, in-the-works but might still be a good couple years out. I’d further guess that the $400 will be a basic contractor/jobsite-style saw in the line of the DeWalt DWE7480. A great, no-frills saw.

As an engineer and woodwork, I never understood the negative views from “haters ” of Sawstop/Mr. Gass…every nock on his tech and negative views seemed to come from individuals with child like reasoning and maturity levels…it’s truly wild to think, here we are in the 21 century and someone is attacked and vilified because he built the better mouse trap and, in a capitalistic society, he dares to make money and try to force and industry to modernize. There are hundreds of Ozario type cases working their way through the courts and virtually all have ruled against the manufacturers. In the end, logically, the courts are forced to rule that since the tech exists to eliminate serious injury, manufacturers are liable.
Now with Festool and Bosh incorporating flesh detection tech, the writing is on the wall for all the rest…include the tech or get penalized.