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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't bills have to originate in the house?

If that's the case, doesn't it make sense that Obama wouldn't present an actual "Bill" but a framework of what he is likely to accept from congress?

Bingo! But no fair you are using reason and logic. Evidently, not everyone has that capacity.

Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

Democrats helped craft it and agreed to rate cuts in exchange for an elimination of many loopholes and deductions.

Actually, as I work for a 501(c)(3), this could be damaging to my career since deductions for charitable donations will be decreased. But I'm willing to take a hit if it means keeping our economy from collapsing a second time.

Democrats helped craft it and agreed to rate cuts in exchange for an elimination of many loopholes and deductions.

Actually, as I work for a 501(c)(3), this could be damaging to my career since deductions for charitable donations will be decreased. But I'm willing to take a hit if it means keeping our economy from collapsing a second time.

"At the White House moments ago, President Obama threw his support behind the efforts of a bi-partisan group of senators known as the "Gang of Six" who are crafting their own budget-reduction plan that includes spending cuts and revenue increases.

It is "broadly consistent with the approach that I've urged," Obama said.

As for the negotiations he's been involved in with Republican leaders from Congress, the president said there has been "some progress" in recent days, but that "we're now in the 11th hour" before a deal needs to be reached in order to give lawmakers time to pass a package before the Aug. 2 deadline when the government's "debt ceiling" expires.

Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

"At the White House moments ago, President Obama threw his support behind the efforts of a bi-partisan group of senators known as the "Gang of Six" who are crafting their own budget-reduction plan that includes spending cuts and revenue increases.

It is "broadly consistent with the approach that I've urged," Obama said.

As for the negotiations he's been involved in with Republican leaders from Congress, the president said there has been "some progress" in recent days, but that "we're now in the 11th hour" before a deal needs to be reached in order to give lawmakers time to pass a package before the Aug. 2 deadline when the government's "debt ceiling" expires.