Please handle a Glock-17 before you buy the 19. The 17 is worth it, believe me.

And you should get the Springfield in .45 The XDM 4.5 is also ideal for CC, one of the most accurate .45s---the felt-recoil on them is considerably low.

I alternate between the Glock 29SF sub-compact (10mm) and the XDM 4.5 Both guns are little beasts. I also had the 30SF (subcompact .45) for a while and I was much more accurate with the XDM.

Cheers. And Merry Christmas everyone.

I actually was much more attracted to the Glock 17 at first. I really feel in love with the shot and the feel in my hand. However, at the time, I didn't have any plans to CC. I'm a big guy, but the 17 still feels a bit to large to CC comfortably.

My only fear with buying a .45 is the cost of ammo for general shooting. I feel like if I'm going to be able to carry effectively, I need to put the time in at the range, and that's a lot cheaper with a 9mm than a .45.

My only fear with buying a .45 is the cost of ammo for general shooting. I feel like if I'm going to be able to carry effectively, I need to put the time in at the range, and that's a lot cheaper with a 9mm than a .45.

Get a .45 which has .22 kits available, shoot the .22 for training and general plinking and .45 everywhere else.

I actually was much more attracted to the Glock 17 at first. I really feel in love with the shot and the feel in my hand. However, at the time, I didn't have any plans to CC. I'm a big guy, but the 17 still feels a bit to large to CC comfortably.

My only fear with buying a .45 is the cost of ammo for general shooting. I feel like if I'm going to be able to carry effectively, I need to put the time in at the range, and that's a lot cheaper with a 9mm than a .45.

I'm with you, brother. That's why I'm getting a Getz MP5 clone. I plan to plank like there is no tomorrow.

The Glock 17 is a more balanced weapon. And its almost as concealable as a 19. The trade-off did not compensate for how accurate and how awesome the 17 shoots/feels. I love mine to death.

I wasn't much for Glocks. Now I own a 17, a 20, and a 29 .. lol And they are all keepers. I really love their sub-compacts and full-size line in 9mm and 10mm. I also had a Glock 26 subcompact (9mm.) But yeah, relaoding is the way to go, Wes. Its the only way I'll start shooting more 10mm without breaking the bank.

Edit: The 26 w/ Pearce grip extenders is a very effective and much more concealable weapon. When you try it at the shop ask them to show you one with the magazine grip-extenders. It makes a world of difference --- your pinky is not hanging off the frame anymore. I'm really not into the compacts. I say if its for CC, then go sub-compact and if its for home-defense and planking---go full-size. I love Glock's sub-compact line, though. I've shot Lugers, Sigs, Walthers, HKs, FNs, 1911s, etc, and I rank the Glocks at the very top in terms of accuracy and reliability, btw.

Thanks for the info, Eli! I've heard there is a range/shop about an hour away that for like $20 you can try every handgun they have in a specific caliber. I might go and shoot a few more .45s before I make a decision. Worst case scenario, I'll use all four of my permits :p

Haha---np, man. Definetly try the 4.5 (.45)XDM and compare it to its counterpart the G30SF sub-compact (.45ACP)...I'd tell ya to try the 10mm if you hand-loaded, but if its your first gun and you're buying ammo off the shelf then stick to 9mm, like you said.

Christmas party last night went better than expected. We spent $30 on a "white elephant" gift. We played a women vs men game and the company owner noticed I was helping our team win so he told me to lose the game, I did. There was a prize on the line and we had no clue what it was. He tells the women to come collect their prize and it was $100, so my wife got that. Next we had to open a box with a number on it that had candy or money in it. Most boxes had a hershey kiss or $20 bill, 1 box had $100 in it. I picked box #14 and insanely enough it had the $100 in it.

We left with $200, 2 bottles of wine, and 4 new wine glasses. I'm ready for next year

so i had a chance to buy a gen1 matrix with a prototype KAPP single trigger frame and a red bolt (pretty sure it was not a slam). had the old school type vert asa on it with a centerflag reg. no eyes. guy wanted 350$ for it plus a almost complete 1st gen matrix with a basic led frame. and the gen1 electronics, noid, etc.

the frame was pretty unique. was a single trigger design with a built in snatch grip. was pretty cool but i didnt think the setup was worth 350.

i figured the red bolt was 100, custom frame maybe 100, and 70 for the gen1 matrix parts guns.

idk the frame has me curious because its pretty awesome plus adding a red bolt to one of my guns would be awesome but 350...

the body is all titanium, no anno. the cut marks and colors are beautiful on it and i will not be annoing it.
but, one ashole machinist in the shop broke off a tap inside the solenoid mounting screw hole... so im waiting to get it repaired... and there is no end in sight of when the machine that can handle the repair will be availible. other than waiting for the sol screws to be repaired its all built and ready to go.

so i had a chance to buy a gen1 matrix with a prototype KAPP single trigger frame and a red bolt (pretty sure it was not a slam). had the old school type vert asa on it with a centerflag reg. no eyes. guy wanted 350$ for it plus a almost complete 1st gen matrix with a basic led frame. and the gen1 electronics, noid, etc.

the frame was pretty unique. was a single trigger design with a built in snatch grip. was pretty cool but i didnt think the setup was worth 350.

i figured the red bolt was 100, custom frame maybe 100, and 70 for the gen1 matrix parts guns.

idk the frame has me curious because its pretty awesome plus adding a red bolt to one of my guns would be awesome but 350...

but, one ashole machinist in the shop broke off a tap inside the solenoid mounting screw hole... so im waiting to get it repaired... and there is no end in sight of when the machine that can handle the repair will be availible.

I've removed broken screw stubs from those holes with hand tools or a drill press. The tap would be stuck in there tighter and is a much harder alloy to drill through, but I can't imagine it would take more than 5 minutes to fix for a skilled machinist with the right equipment.

And why have I not seen pics of this DM9? Sounds awesome. Though probably pretty heavy.

the body is all titanium, no anno. the cut marks and colors are beautiful on it and i will not be annoing it.
but, one ashole machinist in the shop broke off a tap inside the solenoid mounting screw hole... so im waiting to get it repaired... and there is no end in sight of when the machine that can handle the repair will be availible. other than waiting for the sol screws to be repaired its all built and ready to go.