Spurs Fans Attacked In Lyon This Evening

Deeply unpleasant news breaking on Twitter initially anyway that Spurs fans drinking in The Smoking Dog public house in Lyon have been attacked, Lyon fans identified.

At this stage the extent of the situation is unknown but numerous on the scene eyewitnesses are confirming that chairs were thrown through a window of the bar. Unconfirmed reports of bottles and chairs being thrown at fans. Ambulances are now in attendance.

A french woman @Lestartelettes who describes herself as a Community Manager has just Tweeted that ‘100 masked hooligans’ were under her window at Lyon St Paul at The Smoking Dog.

Yeah, totally agree, we have 50, or so, hooded attackers besiege Weatherspoons every lunchtime, screaming ‘kill the Jews’ . Just heard AD, say, on TalkSport, we should show respect when playing in Europe and not sing the Y word. Respect? To who?

I see Harry Kane has just joined Leicester on loan. Given the scant numbers in attack, I can only assume this means AVB has very little confidence in him. Although he has signed a new 4 year deal, though that may be to protect his value when we sell him to a championship club. Still, it would seem that there would be some possibility of him getting some minutes between now and the end of the season so it is a bit of an odd one.

I have to go to work.Im recording the game.Will also try to check in hereb occasionally.
Lets keep the killings down especially between our lot.Who needs the other clubs or countries when we cant even talk civilly.

Wot you want to smash my fucking head in??? WOT????? Fuck you!! Take that for a start mate…and he had the auudacity to say…

About 4 years ago I was caught short for a place to watch a Tottenham game,The game had already started and I had to settle for the nearest pub in Kings Cross.When I got in the whole pub was full of EDL members,crosses of St George everywhere,I got a shock but settled down to watch the game with one ear listening to the chat around me.I left that pub happy with a Spurs victory,but even happier at standard of idiot who joined these things.
These people should not be Feared or built up in any way,they are thugs who want to belong,even if its a cause they haven’t got a clue about.I would love it if some yids gave them a good hiding,but then again I am a bit of a dinosaur.

Last night I watch a wild film about the Capuchin monkey’s that had worked out how to open nuts using the force and weight of stones. Incomparison to the EDL types ,I could watch nut cracking all day long.

Thought I’d share the goodies from Darlington 1883 (their new name since administration etc.)

They are now in the Northern EBAC League – a demotion of five divisions – but still have crowds big enough to set records in the non-league era.

Darlington Football Club
Saturday Morning From 10 am Breakfast in a Bun will be available from the catering units and inside the bar area. All will consist of 2 slices of bacon, 2 sausages, egg, black pudding, mushrooms, beans or tomatoes and a scoop of home made chips all served in a tray for £5! Lunch time special in the bar area will be sweet and sour Chicken and chips.

Don’t you just love it.

Here’s the link to the league. We just beat Spennymoor who are in more cup competitions than you can shake a stick at.
Games in hand?
Pah.

Enfield breaks my heart-as a little kid, I just about recall them and Spurs both winning their respetive cups in 1967 and proudly parading them-also went to see ETFC at the lane playing Barnsley in front of a massive crowd although they lost great night and support from the Spurs for their little neighbours

It would seem that we are entering a new age of Fascist exstreamisum – some time back, a mate in counter terrorism told me that one day soon, it is believed that a serious attempt will be made to seriously harm fans at the Lane. Think about it. The outside world beleive that THFC is a Jewish enclave! Soon, I beleive, we at the lane will face a ban on the use of the word Yid. They’ll dress it up as provocation or, in its self, racist. We’ll be asked to shrink away into the shadows, like we never existed, forced to live under the anti semantics rock,, hoping that one day, everybody forgets about us ever uttering the name YID.

I’m not Jewish, and I believe, that if that day comes, and it will – we can do one of two things

1. agree not to call ourselves Yids, and in turn bow to anti semantic behaviour. ‘ Sorry mr storm trooper,(tap, tap, tap,) but no nasty little yids here, (tap, tap, tap) promise, if I see one though, I’ll be straight on the blower (tap)’

2 . Fight tooth & nail, and stand, side by side with those Yids who are Yids, and who are once a again being targeted by Nazis.

We fight Cancer in different ways. Some of us partake in fun runs. Others wear ribbons and shave our heads, wheras, some study mutations daily and others use scaples. There you go. The word fight, explored just for you snivelspur.

There is no immediate danger, there was an incident that should be handled delicately. To storm in guns blazing would only instigate further attacks on our supporters. Some of which are vulnerable people.

One extreme or another? Have you ever traveled abroad with Spurs? Clearly not, most times it’s a laugh, other’s it’s an on edge, strange feeling of waiting for it all to kick off and you really need your wits about you-it’s not a simple case of dealing with a few idiots-as in Seville, it was the police and authorities who caused the problem as it was in Milan-and these had nothing to do with our Yid connections-it was the simple fact we were English and Londoners-nothing else!

You called me a pacifist in light of my non-violent alternative. I’d say that was going form one extreme to another. FYI I have traveled abroad for Spurs just not in a mob. I take my nephew to games and my priority is to return him home safely. Not rise to obnoxious piss-heads who think football is a good reason to smack each-other about.

I was referring to pacifism historically Brizz, and it doesn’t work-If you research any social history, eventually it always comes down to a pitched battle-Cable Street being a good example or more recently the NF marches as already mentioned.

Ghandi and Martin Luther King spring to mind but thats without really looking.
Anyway this is getting off topic I’m not trying to promote unrelenting pacifism. I’m just saying that any retaliation towards last nights mob would only fuel the fire. these guys obviously have nothing worthwhile in their lives otherwise they’d be spending their time doing something else. If we get dragged down with them we risk marring our season with violence and I just don’t see the point. Their idiots, we’re not. More fool them. Lets play football.

There’s the problem, they’ll see it as worthwhile Brizz, they’ll see themselves as protectors of their race, their way of life, avengers of past ignominious defeats etc, all of which is a by-product of idle hands and a poor education-sad yet true

I just feel that the only real victim last night was the poor bar owner trying to make a living. This is a problem for Lyon and it’s police. Not us. When they come banging on the doors in North London then we can have our say. But otherwise there is no immediate danger. And we have very little recourse other than to move on and concentrate on our own affairs.

3 hurt though, all I’m saying is if someone is trying to give me a hiding, I’m not going to wait for the police to turn up before hitting back-there was no back door in that cafe-nowhere to go-so what else can you do but to stand your ground?

This is the first season I’ve not traveled abroad watching the lads play,part of me is missing it all-but I have no belief in this league nor really care too much about the outcome to be honest RonWol-It’s a hinderance and will become even more so should we progress tonight

There’s the rub-If you could assure me they’ll be no injuries and back log of fixtures. That the club will be financially rewarded for their efforts and the football reward would be more than just a repeat performance next season-I too would be up for it-the fact of the matter is it won’t

Lets put this one away and discuss again.We could always use the people of this site to fill in
AVB I think is using Brad tonite and so its not beyond him to mix in some of the kids too
so far we are ok.
I wouldnt play Bale all night by the way

sorry I didnt mean nit use Bale at all this game.I meant not use Bale the whole game.Still I think there is a line we should be careful of not crossing and that is wearing our players out.
Still would like to go forward though

Football is a sport. With it comes unconciousness wrapped with ignorance. The use of the word Jew is misleading as it does not represent certain parts of Judeism. Its the Ashkenazi Jews one has to watch out for. Their domination of the planet continues through their programming of mankind. The Red Symphony is at work.

2-1 to the Lillywhites, because they play in the colour white sometimes, or Lillygreys tonight.

Diabolical crap!Jews have been blamed for being poor,rich,candlestick makers and bakers and cab drivers and owners of corporations and leaders of the Bolshevik revolution.From all over the political spectrum left right and centre.
Yes we were prominient in civil rights in South Africa and Misssissipi and look now we got shit from the Peter Herberts of this world and on the business strong we are reltively strong not becaiuse of collusion but because of competition.
I take great offence to that remark.
Tell me is Abramovich and Levy in collusion and are they communists?

Their intent was to terrorise and provoke. Fortunately the chaps in the bar knew better than to run out into the street where they would of not only had their heads caved in, but the headlines would look a lot different. The whole world wouldn’t be looking at innocent supporters being bullied. they’d see two tribes brawling in the streets.

I understand that the ordeal has made you angry. It’s made us all angry.
But an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. There is a bigger picture, if you chose to see it.

Ok lets cool it guys.No point in briging tribalism to this site.The West Stand vrs the East Stand or the Shelf against the rest.
We all come from different experiences.Lets try and have a better understanding of whats happing and then ATTACK!

He’s been continuously abusive and condescending from the word go. Insisting that the information that he has is gospel and we simply must act. My only point was that we don’t have a clear and concise understanding of the situation. To me, it’s football and all the ugly that come with it. If we start sounding off as supporters we’ll only facilitate the drama even more.

Strong and bitter words are the sign of a weak cause.
You’re so full of hatred that the prospect of having a civilised discussion with you seems impossible. However….
I don’t agree that there is any fight to be had wether it’s fist fighting neo-nazis in the street or standing for the word Yid. All I see is people getting riled up about a bunch of idiots smashing up a pub And some black lawyer trying to gain publicity out of the word Yid. There is no immediate threat to our supporters, our club or anything. It’s hysteria. Nothing else. To clarify, my comments as a whole reflect the sentiments of your original post and I perceive you to be ‘making a mountain out of a mole hill’. A paranoid delusional who provides 2 equally pathetic solutions to a non-existent dilemma.
I’ll leave it to the Jewish community to decide wether the word ‘Yid’ is acceptable;e. And I shall leave it to the authorities to deal with the yobs in Europe.

I’m not trying to justify this type of behavior at all as it’s sickening to see. But i do think that our idiotic fans known as the ‘yid army’, invite these types of incidents to occur. That’s twice now that we’ve been attacked the night before a euro game, co incidence ? :Angry:

A section of our fans called the yid army, not the majority. I’m just saying that reputations proceed teams & we have a known naughty element. Do you not find it weird that we’ve been done over twice this season alone ? As for the have a chat with yourself, well this is a blog isn’t it chirpy, what makes you the be all ?

We’ve been known as the Yid Army for over 30 years, in recent months a certain Peter Herbert has been for whatever reason, making threats in the media and highlighting the fact we have a large jewish following. Right wing groups are to blame for both attacks on our supporters, and both attacks were pre planned. Coincidence?

Yeah, i know our history J R. I also couldn’t give a rats ass about that Herbert spouting off about what we call ourselves, he’s a nobody. I have no doubt that the attacks we’re planned, that is plainly obvious. What i’m saying is that our firm (the yid army) have a big reputation in the UK & abroad. My point is that reputations proceed & this might be the cause of these 2 incidents. Not everything comes down to religion. :Tired:

Harts, the single biggest cause for this is David Baddiel, anyone else is merely a wagon jumper mate-Baddiel’s desire for publicity is a disgrace, but unfortunately this has now made us a target across Europe for any right wing loon as they just don’t get it?

Baddiel or Herbert, it doesn’t really matter, they have both used the YID campaign for their own self publicity. It is as you say, these publicity campaigns that has once again made our fans a target to the far right and each and every attack strengthens their hatred and awareness through the media.

For me, this is a social issue that spans decades. And whenever we visit these areas in Europe with a fascist undercurrent that goes undeterred our fans are attacked. This is a massive problem in Europe. How long until someone is killed?

Well,someone has been killed during a bar fight in 1984-there were numerous brawls,fights etc in the 70’s and 80’s-and never once was the term Yid or anything like that the cause-it was football fans having a ruck-nothing else.

Communication has changed Essex. The political thing will stay marginalized for the most part.But if the economies of the more southern part of Europe get worse than extremes will come in more as they have always done.Thats when these things matter and sometimes its too late.
But for now yes,its a fringe lot with a few hangers on only

Early 80’s RonWol, how much more of a depression could you want? It’s a new fashion-the in vogue thing to do, much like Jenas-everyone needs to someone or something to hate-It’s really strange for me, having a complete hatred of any organized religion, getting battered and having to defend myself and my club for it’s ‘supposed’ religious connections-Fcking Hell The Arsenal and Chelsea are far more Jewish than Spurs , No?

Just like we are supposed to be Bolsheviks or leaders of business etc all of us we are also candle stick makers and fish friiers (not me)
Yes there are many Arse and Chelsea Jewish fans. But somehowm it stuck to us.

I was referring to th likes of Abramovic,Dein, and many of the Goon hierarchy-which is funny hearing the Chelsea and Goon fans having a pop at us for being Jewish-for without Jews running their clubs they’d be nothing-they’ve benefited considerably-whereas we’ve just taken all the crap

No Ron, I’m not saying we invite it at all, just that reputations proceed sometimes. The British are known to love a scrap & most of the big clubs have firms that travel to European away games. Not implying that those poor buggers in that pub were looking for trouble, just that they were English.

We all have our experiences.There are the firms and by their nature they invite (and at times get invited) the national front type oraganizations to join them. Violence works for them.
In general maybe most are kids looking for some fun but that only is part of the story.
For every Jew and anyone else that has know this in the political sense and has suffered at any level from this would know what it can lead to. Our experiences add into the pot of the way we see it.
So yes it can be just a bunch of yobs going out for a fight for the purpose of it or it can be more structured with political fascist intentions.

On the quation of them being targeted because they are English.
When was the last time that football supporters were attacked because they are English?
Yes this could be but in both cases they were using anti semetic language.
They knew what the word Yids meant.
In Rome they were not just from Lazio,they were from Roma too.Fascist elements.Thats political,not football

It seems the Front National have been very active in the Lyon area for Decades, Lyon has a Jewish population of approx 35,000 and suffers many forms of attack from personal to property.
This begs the question as to why Tottenham Supporters were not given intellegence as to the areas to avoid and the areas deemed safe around the City of Lyon.
Can’t see it doing tourism in the area any favours.

Clearly from this mornings reports of Nazi salutes and chants this is an Antisemetic group, hard to believe that 70 years after the WW2 atrocities such a group can still exist, and in France. UEFA/FIFA can’t do anything about such groups but warn visiting supporters of their existance and to avoid certain areas. Sad to think Tottenham supporters are deemed as viable targets due to their Jewish connections. Another sad day for Sport.

It would be wrong to hold Lyon FC responsible for Right Wing Anti Semetic Groupings who have been active in the area. They are not Football Fans just deluded but dangerous Anarchists, Society must deal with them robustly and swiftly.
To sanction Lyon FC for last nights events would be like sanctioning Tottenham Hotspur for the London Riots of 2011.

When I was growing up we used to call men who had a predilection for other men ringers,I dont think ronwol has given any cause on these blogs to be asked if hes a ringer ,if thats what you mean?say no more nudge nudge wink wink

I am totally confused.One day there is a language we all use and its all pretty well the same even though sometimes our views are not and the next everyone makes up their own words,made up in the last 24 hours. Ringers were always:

a) What we starts goorbells going

b) Someone inserted into a team that looks and plays like Messi even though he has the name Smith on his back

The Catholic Church blamed the Jews for the death of Christ and recinded/apologised for this only in 1964. It is very likely that this contributed significantly to their (jews) attempted destruction. The Catholic church stood by and watched the slaughter without saying boo, even honouring Hitler on his birthday every year. It is not disputed that Hiltler was a Catholic and Mein Kampf is littered with religious terminology.

The Catholic influence in Spain, Italy, Germany and France over the last 200 years has wrought strife across Europe, as well as raping our children they have brought their religious genocide to our doors time and time again.

If and when I get to know you better I can give you some insight into life in Vichy during that period, as I’ve got lot’s of rellies from my mums side who lived around Lyon during that period, pretty eye opening stuff.
As a little kid, I recall asking my mum about Churchill for a school project, and she flew into a proper hissy fit-whereas my dad, thought him OK. Found out years later that her cousin was killed by the British Navy when Churchill ordered the French fleet to be destroyed rather than it fall into Nazi hands. Nothing was black and white then anymore than it is now.

I think you know me well enough from previous posts that i rarely look at anything in plain and simple black and white, especially historical ‘facts’. The collaboration mentioned above for example can be countered by the thousands of French who were in the Resistance, a fact a lot of people who use terms like ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ choose to forget.

Not at all Billy, I just know the area quite well and it’s history through real life and circumstances-My Dad who for all intents and purposes was Irish,fought in the last war with the RCAF, yet his old man was a fervent nationalist. All I’m saying it’s a strange world and many merely go with the flow for fear of retribution.

+ the 3 divisions of french troops who held off 10 wehrmacht divisions while the entire BEF was offloading at Dunkirk, + the French action in north Africa (Bir haakim) which saved Monty’s bacon and guaranteed success at El Alamein.

Churchill was a a great orator but casually murdered thousands at Gallipoli at Mers el Kebir by his orders.

Thanks Essexian-A piece of History that showed him up as the chancer he was-
There was a brilliant documentary recently on BBC on how he conned the Americans that the war in North Africa be kept on so that British interests there would survive. He also insisted that the invasion of Europe should go through Sicily rather than (the most logical choice) through France. Again countless people died needlessly as a result. Even the Germans when they eventually surrendered said that it was ridiculous planning!

On a serious note. The world was his oyster wasn’t it? No doubting that he has suffered in ways that most may never, but still he was the golden boy of athletics. A status reflected in every possible way.

Yurp, i concur, and the MSM are are going to rinse this story for all it’s worth- until another major scandal breaks like the British Government putting Lithium into the water supply, or something……………

Anti-depressants for children?
Drugging an entire population (without their consent) with an antipsychotic agent?
Then again, i’m on the tube most days during rush hour and when you look at the carriage full of miserable zombies………then again overtly cheerful happy people freak me out more……………i’m confused (too much lithium- or not enough?).

Far Right extremists who think it’s fine to attack a club with a Jewish connection, this is the 21st Century, what will Blatter do to cover up this savage attack, ban Spurs from European Competition to stop the attacks ?

@Chris Radnedge: A dozen masked men attack pub Spurs fans drinking in in Lyon. Am in it now. There are a couple of guys with minor injuries
: Spurs fans threw tables and chairs back through pub windows to get the masked attackers away who were trying to get into the packed pub : Pub bow boarded up. We’re now just waiting inside for police to come and make it safe

I’ve heard of Fado from a buddy of mine (who watches games there quite often). I haven’t been there yet.
I occasionally go to the George (George & Dragon pub) in Fremont. And sometimes to “Atlantic Crossing” pub maybe? Don’t recall the exact name. I heard the “Market Arms” pub is pretty decent. You ever been?

I have seen most/ all of Vinnie Jones films, and although he may never win an Oscar, one has to admire the fact that he has managed to carve out a reasonably successful 2nd career.
Like Dyer, and in fact, like his former footballing self he is pretty one dimensional, although I would argue that his acting career is what he will ultimately be remembered for. If you exclude him reminding Gazza that he had cojones!

I can assure you it’s nothing to do with antisemitism-It’s anti English, same as everywhere else around Europe. We had it in Spain (police) and a little in Eindhoven and both times in Milan in recent times..mind you, it’s small beer compared to the eighties to be honest

The vast majority of football hooligan firms on the continent are run/made up of far right wing knuckleheads. If you’re English and in France then you’re a dirty foreigner and fair game, just as if you were jewish, black, brown, gay, muslim, buddhist…………

Just to give you some perspective on the subject.I put into Google search
‘British fans attacked in Europe’
I looked through 10 pages of Google results and there was 2 or so about Lyon and the rest apart from one about Poland/Russian fans clashing then went to the 14th page there was one about Heysel.

OMG! My cousin is over there with his mates.
What is going on lately with fans from other countries out to hurt us.
The game against Panathiakos ,my cousing and 4 of his mates were set on by 20 of them. with Paul his mate having his arm fractured, but still managed to see the game after having his arm set in plaster.
Just text them, and hoping they will get back to me that they are all ok.