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The Future Of Game

Like a doctor who takes a two-week seminar to refresh his skills, game guys must keep learning to keep their game as effective as possible. Always be approaching and always be experimenting. While the main principles of game will not change, the arena in which it’s played will. Different environments will cause different responses, and we must always look for improved counterattacks. That said, here’s where I see game going in the next twenty years.

Hot Girls Under 30 Will Be Impossible To Lock Down

Populations will continue to get fatter, decreasing the attractiveness of the species. The few remaining girls who aren’t obese will have a never-ending line of suitors at the door (not only betas but alphas as well). This puts her closer to living the Sex and the City dream. She will jump ship at the slightest trouble in a relationship, whereas before she might have been willing to work it out. To see this phenomenon in action today, look at any beautiful girl between ages 19-23. Locking her up for more than a couple months is nothing short of extraordinary. In the future that age range will expand into the upper 20s and maybe even lower 30s. All beautiful women will be the most advanced and cuntish of players, and all that game will be able to do is squeeze in a couple bangs until she moves on to the next one.

Flaking Will Reach Epidemic Proportions

Western culture is teaching youth to glance upon the field and carefully analyze all available options before making a decision, or simply not make a decision at all. Therefore dates scheduled more than a day in advance will be rare. There will be no concept of keeping your word, being honorable, showing up, or acting respectful. Everyone will be looking out for their own. Whereas for night game in the past you had to make out with a girl to decrease the chances she’ll flake, today you have to fuck her. That’s right—to get a first date you have to already have had the one-night stand with her. This is the only way I’ve found that decreases flaking to an acceptable level in even today’s climate. If I only made out with the girl, or god forbid didn’t even kiss her, the odds I will see her again are far from assured. The dirty truth of game is how often flaking occurs, and it will happen at such a frustrating level that I’m certain more men will turn into homosexuals or resort to sex dolls because of it. This feature alone will cut the game careers short of many men who simply can’t handle the frustration and rejection. You’ll have to really want it to succeed.

The Definition Of Monogamy Will Loosen

You know how some people call themselves flex-vegetarians, meaning they are meat-eaters but like to pretend they are vegetarians? Beautiful women will have flex-monogamous relationships. In relationships they will cheat and stray regularly, as our culture will by then have perfectly taught youth the art of rationalization. “You don’t have to accept your current situation!” “Do what you like!” “You’re a unique snowflake!” “You don’t deserve to be uncomfortable!” She’ll cheat on strange men without a condom and not feel any remorse, and if you dump her she won’t care because she’ll do the same with the next guy in line (they’ll be several).

Game Plus Fame Will Be More Important Than Anything

It doesn’t have to be national fame, but you must be known for something with a reputation that precedes you. You must have a YouTube channel with millions of views. You must be a proprietor of a hipster butcher shop. You must be a popular writer, artist, or musician. You must be nightclub promoter or DJ. You must be a competitive skateboarder. Your must be the notorious editor of a cupcake newsletter. In a culture where a million people are “famous,” you’ll have to work your ass off for scraps if you’re not. Nurture your own style and niche and then leverage that to get pussy. Game will always have its use, but game plus fame will be the qualities that tomorrow’s Casanova possess. Otherwise you’ll be approaching all day and night to fuck a 6 who stops calling you after a couple bangs. You must have the complete package to get the hottest girls, with game being only the first ability of a multi-level game warrior. Guys without game will simply not get laid, not even with ugly girls.

The main factors driving the change is feminism and the uglification of the species. If you want to fuck average girls, game alone will get you there, but it will be increasingly difficult to fuck and keep attractive women since their numbers will be too low. Game and something else will be needed. The climate of the future will make it tough for a handsome man with a nice, middle-class job to land a pretty girl. Of course it will happen, as those girls will settle down eventually in their 30s, but the majority of men will not be successful at it. This future is inevitable unless the obesity epidemic peaks within the next five years and feminism is eradicated.

It will take quite some time for every country in the world to be infected with the Western disease. Therefore the beta men who didn’t resort to homosexuality or sex dolls will dabble in mail order brides to fulfill their evolutionary destiny. Want to be a millionaire? Get in one of these industries: gay marriage planning, sex doll importing/exporting, international matchmaking, or manufacturing of special ambulances with cranes to hoist fat people. God bless America.

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I think I might go and live Malta, Israel or somewhere in Scandinavia. They all speak English, but as a foreigner going places (I’m set to be fast-tracked through the ranks in medicine, exam grades permitting), I’ll be like a status king.

Game alone is not enough, you forgot to mention looks as they are quite important.
a women will not sleep with a man these days if she thinks she is better looking than him unless he has game/confidence + important fame/status/money

have you seen the reality show dating in the dark ?
you gotta see it , it proves that in these days of “equality” looks are very important to women, even to fat women, just check out the show.

mr. pilkington

Dude, that was depressing, I was waiting for the part where sky net becomes self aware and men are plugged into machines to fuel the engine of the feminist industrial complex. Fuck that shit I’m going to Mars.

http://sectorlv.wordpress.com Culdcept

All those points are quite valid and already progressing at an all too fast rate in the US. 20 years is generous. Your second point about flaking is pretty much true now. Fortunately we have a little more time in other countries so we can go somewhere else for now.

The biggest factor in all this is obesity. Without the epidemic of fat acceptance, all this wouldn’t be as much of a problem since there would simply be more girls to go around.

It’s already happening. When I dabbled in the game a few years ago before getting into a relationship, it was just different out there. I found that girls didn’t flake as much and were more approachable. The other issue is that online dating and sites like facebook makes every girl think she is a celebrity. When she’s getting hit up online by about 20 dudes a day, she can do whatever she wants.

Roosh, you have a point. But in general when making predictions about future scenarios it is human nature to extrapolate recent trends indefinitely. In reality the world doesn’t quite work that way.

As the founder of sociology at Harvard – Pitrim Sorokin – observed, we humans are flawed and always take a good idea to perfection and then beyond, neglecting other aspects of life. Then the music changes and we see a new trend emerging.

The logical consequence of nascent trends emerging from the present social and economic situation are the following.

- the obesity trend climaxes and then starts to reverse itself as food prices continue their rise, and slowly start to make large portions unaffordable. it is interesting that this trend (which had been building for a while) really went ballistic in the 1990s as corn prices hit and stayed at very depressed levels. Raw food prices in the 1970s were 5x higher than today’s levels, and I suspect we are heading back there.
- the relative value of the provider male vs the cad starts to bottom out. the man who has a steady job will start to become like gold in the very tough and uncertain economic climate we have ahead. note that women are disproportionately employed by the state. at some point government spending will have to collapse in real terms, one way or the other. this reduces economic opportunities available to women, raising the importance of the provider.
- reduction in spending on police, prisons etc will see a reversal in the trend away from violence in society observed by akinokure (of dusk in autumn). as inflation picks up we will see an increase in violence, again making the role of protector more important. women won’t be able to take the state as protector for granted any longer.
- growth in the future will come much more from traditionalist regions involved in agriculture, mining, engineering. the unemployment rate in S Dakota is below 5%, and Iowa is similar. so prestige will shift from the coastal elites towards old fashioned americans in the heartland. the shiny Sex and the City lifestyle as something to aspire to is over.

There is more to say, but perhaps these observations may be relevant.

http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

Yeah, this is all 100% true.

The “Game Plus Fame” thing is very interesting, I have touched on the subject before.

Has anyone stopped and thought about the increase in “celebrities” over the last 10 years? Its mindnumbing. Celebrity was the #1 drug of last decade.

I think you missed one aspect of the future: Increase in American Prostitutes. I have a theory that most girls in America will form into prostitutes in some shape or form the way we are headed.

Which might not be a bad thing. If we can figure out a way to export our American Prostitutes/Women, we might be able to get our economy back on track.

Also, we will have to start exporting drugs for that to happen, but that’s neither here nor there.

Roosh, I think your predictions are very skewed because you are not taking into account what will happen when the terrorists win. Here is a different perspective of el future:

When the terrorists win, due to the greedy,fat, weak, complacent populace (who refuse to work on the betterment of this country by using restraint and self-discipline), the good ol’ U.S.A. will have Sharia law.

Women will be wearing burkas and being stoned to death for behaving as they do now. Game will be fruitless because all coupling will be arranged by an Imam since parenting here no longer exists. Men who don’t want to/know how to fight (which is almost everyone not in a military/paramilitary organization) will be put to work as indentured servants like those little Filipino and Indian dudes in Dubai and Saudi Arabia. Desk jockeys/internet junkies will be obsolete, Elhamdulillah الحمد لله.

The only real men left will be fighting and getting blown up, just as they are now, in the military, fighting the Taliban and getting blown to pieces by roadside bombs/IED’s. Then their buddies get too pick up the pieces so the enemy doesn’t use them for propaganda purposes and go nuts in the process. Maybe the Israeli army will step up and save us, but I highly doubt since they are only interested in Israel.
Now THAT’S a bleak future.

klasik

Gloom and doom much?

I don’t understand why you think women will become less attractive, but men won’t?

And what about the exiting new developments in porn? The first 3D porn flicks are coming out this year, within 20 years you’ll be able to have virtual sex anyway. Women will now have to compete with technology.

Carl Sagan

did you happen to write this post with a tin foil hat on?

Still a funny post though.

http://raliv.wordpress.com Raliv

“Has anyone stopped and thought about the increase in “celebrities” over the last 10 years? Its mindnumbing. Celebrity was the #1 drug of last decade.” – G Manifesto

I have thought about this several times in the past few months particularly. It seems as though anyone can be a celebrity; no talent is required. I have no desire to whore myself out to the great satan of hollywood.

All I want in life is a lot of books, a lot of booze, and a lot of cunt. (I forget who wrote this)

Most of these predictions make perfect sense, except #1. Current research shows hotter women tend to have fewer total partners. Maybe already promiscuous women will act like this, but normal women, when the market is skewed in their favor, will just start demanding more signs of commitment before putting out.

Mike

I am 33, and I’ve noticed a masculinity shortage in the 25-and-under age group. They have been brain washed into believing that men and women are the same; that gender has been socially constructed; and that being a man is bad. When not brainwashed, they are drugged with Adderall. Also, environmental estrogens (plastics) are everywhere: Thus, testosterone levels are lower.

For a man who is “traditionally male,” these *are* the salad days. These should be the best days of our lives. We have basically no competition from younger guys.

A good friend of mine who is 40, and in great shape, is still in the game.

If you have a nice body (which you can maintain into your 50s), wear sunscreen (especially if you’re white), get Botox, color your hair, and do some of the other bullshit beauty rituals of a woman….You will be killing it into your 40s.

The future is bright.

Mormon Preacher

It’s normal that hot chicks choose guys who have something to offer, be it good looks, money/status, Casanova level game or a combination of all. It has always been like that in all times and places.

It’s not normal for men, who are visual creatures, to like obese feminists with short hair cuts. So who’s gonna fuck them? Not me. Never did, never will.

Feminism is a western disease. And western women are, on average, uglier and less feminine than other races. That’s just how it is and always has been. If you don’t like that, go elsewhere.

#11
“And what about the exiting new developments in porn? The first 3D porn flicks ”
Exciting? Porn is crap and a waste of time if you really think about it. Just like video games. Visual heroin.

http://beirutstreethotties.wordpress.com Nestorius

What about legal and cheap prostitution?
Isn’t that the solution?

Do you think that this large number of males who are not getting laid will keep supporting their situation?

Meh, I agree with the fame one and the flaking, I saw a NBA bball player bust his ass the other day to take a “7″ home.

and lol @ comment number 15, where the hell do you live? going out now the field is competitive as ever, 40 year old guys where i’m from either got the hottest chicks(due to game/status etc) or their the beta’s hitting on Asians buying them drinks left and right, and still going home to wank of after!

The young guys got more game then any of the previous generations cause we have access to the “meta-game” something previous generations haven’t had. The Meta-game allows you to access game anywhere in the world for example You can go online, and instantly find blog’s/forums/videos on youtube etc, On how to game and learn game, on top of that you can learn games from other players/pua’s or just hire a game expert like roosh for his services (20 years ago this wasn’t available, and it was the 90′s!!)

Honestly if your a “vet” in your 40′s your suppose to be “killing” it just of status alone by then, most guys I see in the field older, are no threat to me in the field!

Oof, this looks depressing. On the plus side, there’s a chance that our culture’s obsession with beauty might result in more lipo and boob jobs, thus slightly countervailing the effects of more obesity.

We should all try to move to Eastern Europe where the girls are hot and live the glamorous life of American expats. As a bonus we can use Who Lies More as much as possible without fear of being found out.

“However if you got tight game and know how to dress you can overcome this”

This is true, but here’s how I look at fashion: Your body is the canvass.

The Mona Lisa on a paper bag wouldn’t have been a masterpiece.

Too many guys buy into the game stuff, looking for short cuts. They neglect the canvass.

Firepower

All these theories will indeed become manifest.

Sadder yet, even the youngest Players reading this will turn 40 well before it all degrades further.

West LA

Great stuff Roosh. Interesting and funny.
“You must be the notorious editor of a cupcake newsletter.” ha ha

One thing that will definitely happen in the next 20 years is that all of us will get older (if we’re lucky), and we will change, maybe in some ways we didn’t anticipate.
We will change in what we want, what we are willing to pay or sacrifice to get it, and what we find tolerable or not.

An older friend of mine told me that as he got older, he saw his old drive to get women like it had been a brain fever that used to run his life for him, but now it was cooling down, and this change was partly a relief for him. It made him feel freer. He seemed to be enjoying more clarity & inner peace.

As I get older, I want to see how legitimately young I can remain, hopefully succeeding in defying common assumptions about the limitations of the older years, without being one of those pathetic guys who make us all cringe to see them, looking delusional about their age and what they can still swing.
One part of this attempt will be taking great care of my body, in every way. I’ve been doing that since I was 15, and it has been well worth it.

Snoeperd

Did you take some pointers from Roissy about how to write about the current state of things in the relational market?

It does definitely work though, you’re having more comments quicker already!

http://themodernsavage.com/ Matt Savage

The Polyamorous lifestyle seems to also be picking up steam and could see it eventually replacing monogamous marriages. Just the other night I met a cute girl in an open relationship who basically bangs whoever she wants, so long as she goes home to the boyfriend.

Also, what about the sexbot revolution? How does that play into your predictions?

6) Difficult and globalized economy leading to more acceptance of prostitution, including “grey area” mistress type stuff.

Although @10 again, state jobs won’t disappear in this environment, laissez fair capitalism, already somewhat mythical at this point anyway, will. State intervention could produce either international, green-economics-technocratic social democracy, or sadly more likely right now, neo-fascism with huge military spending, corporate/govt consolidation, racism as law, FEMA “emergency” camps, and lots more low-level state jobs in exchange for stale govt. cheese, since the fascist mindset hates to “give anything away for free.”

9) Popular “art,” broadly defined (but principally music, fashion, film) done to get laid more than to get paid.

10) Stranger to stranger hook-ups less common / necessary when even somewhat attractive women can have their own stable of “friends with benefits” attractive guys to choose from and keep “in orbit” or even as part of a social circle. (Applies more in the west.)

Thoughts?

PS – I don’t see more fat acceptance in our culture, just maybe less shock about the large number of fat people. I also feel like playing devil’s advocate a bit with your “feminism this, feminism that” stuff… I kinda know what you’re talking about (bitchiness and unrealistic worldviews based on unearned privilige, right?), but using a more general definition of feminism, increased freedom and opportunity for women, doesn’t necessarily make hooking up harder or more painful, compare say, Sweden to Afghanistan.

Okay, comment away.

straightken

Oh and I forgot to mention:

11) The Backlash (especially in more traditional countries) against the effects of all these more or less inevitable forces, especially as the first generation of women to “enjoy” them gets older and isn’t able to satisfy their deep instincts to raise a traditional family.

straightken

Hey last thing, a tiny bit off topic but… with all the dudes hating on fat chicks (not sure if that includes cute-faced slightly-chubbies, who I am in favor of), I just wanted to get this off my chest…

Anybody else who has spent a long time overseas, like Latin America for example, can you agree with me that women their have more feminine faces and that US women (along with I’d say a lot of Indian and Middle Eastern women) have less feminine features (including man-jaws) that make them look a bit trannyish?

It’s weird because even comparing US Latinas or US black women with S. American Latinas (including S. American black latinas), I see a huge difference, it’s something that seems to happen within a generation even, is it diet and lifestyle or is it the manifestation of some deeper pyschological shit? (Or am I just nuts?)

The only time I’m a tiny bit grateful for this is with Asian American chicks… Asians from Asia are a bit too little girl looking for me, so the slight “maturation” they go through growing up here seems to turn me on a bit more…

Thoughts?

tomtud

Perhaps hot women will become rarer as the population grows. More less desirable compared to the hotties, just purely based on population growth.

The behaviour of women I would strictly blame on 2 things. Mothers and men. For instance, a mother will tell her daughter, don’t marry a man like your dad, he doesn’t cook, clean etc. (I’m generalizing, but I’m speaking from my experience). 2ndly, men are to be blamed. They allow women to flake on them, cock block without telling the female WTF???? giver her too much attention and place women on pedistals !

The future of gaming girls through cold contacts (clubs etc) will get harder yes.. But, I think this makes social proof status much more important. As well, meeting these girls through social circles will be much more important. The guys from my experience who have the hottest broads, have met these women through friends or in their social circle. A cold contact pick up in a club, I still to this day haven’t seen anybody with a hottie that lasts.

Anonymous

I agree somewhat, though I also think that there’s a chance the center falls out on femenism and things begin to revert back to the way they were in the 50′s, the way things should be.

A major world war, a major civil war, widespread disease or poverty, a bloody MRA revolution…who knows how it could happen.

T

“Game alone is not enough, you forgot to mention looks as they are quite important.
a women will not sleep with a man these days if she thinks she is better looking than him unless he has game/confidence + important fame/status/money”

Yeah, this is partially true.

If you don’t have something to make up for a serious looks differential (air-tight game, money, status, fame, or something else), then you are shit out of luck.

I usually encounter this when I decide to bat way “out of my league”: I can tell right away that the super hot chick has resistance to the idea of even talking to me, let alone giving me her number (LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

T

“The future of gaming girls through cold contacts (clubs etc) will get harder yes.. But, I think this makes social proof status much more important. As well, meeting these girls through social circles will be much more important. The guys from my experience who have the hottest broads, have met these women through friends or in their social circle. A cold contact pick up in a club, I still to this day haven’t seen anybody with a hottie that lasts.”

The problem with social circle game is this: it is usually tough to get into a social circle that has hot chicks.

For instance, in college the frat guys had the best looking girls.

…but getting into a decent frat was a pain in the ass (dealing with hazing, bs from the “brothers”, etc.).

DaveG

Utterly hilarious!

And, to some extent, sadly true…

http://sjones84.blogspot.com/ Solo

@ straightken aka number 44

I spend a long time in Germany, and honestly facial german chicks gotta be some of the ugliest chicks. The chicks that were hot weren’t even from germany,

Mike
I’m still curious what scene you go too, you still haven’t answered my question.

Interesting analysis. I agree with the importance of fame. I strongly disagree with the idea that more people are “turning” into homosexuals.

speakeasy

I think there’s a lot of truth here, esp with regards to flaking. I’m seeing it already. 10 years ago, if I got a girls number in a bar after some conversation, a date was as sure as the sunrise. And they actually called back when you left a message. These days, I can do the same, and she won’t call back, and half the time I can’t get her to reply to more than a few texts messages until it fizzles out.

As for obesity, well consider that men are getting obese right alongside the women, so many of these fat men will just end up with fat women. I’m not sure that really effects us normal weight guys when you run the numbers. That means the value of guys who stay in shape and work out will also go up along with women who do the same so why would our relative value to each other change?

Anonymous

Scandinavia. They all speak English, but as a foreigner going places (I’m set to be fast-tracked through the ranks in medicine, exam grades permitting), I’ll be like a status king.

lol, why?

speakeasy

Another point I was just thinking, maybe things will go full circle and we’ll end up back to where they were in past. Our grandparents didn’t meet through pickups in bars and clubs. Most of them met through social connections. Mutual friends, introductions, church, etc. As it becomes more and more difficult to meet women in cold approach situations, I think there’s a good chance that it will go back to the way it was where the only way to meet a girl that won’t flake on you is through your social network.

I think you will also see people turning more to online dating/speed dating and that sort of thing. For women, it will be about trying to find a guy with all the perfect stats, and most the guys on there will be desperate. If you are a guy with great stats but maybe don’t have the network or game, online dating sites might be good for you. If you’re average Joe, forget it. Even average girls will be picky as hell on dating sites. These dating sites will be huge cockfests, even more than they are now.

Matt

The ever expanding field your looking for is called Bariatrics

Bariatrics hoist = fat cunt hoist

It makes it easer for business meetings, stops the sniggers which would ensue if your talking about fat cunts!

TG

” the obesity trend climaxes and then starts to reverse itself as food prices continue their rise, and slowly start to make large portions unaffordable”

Obesity in our country has way more to do with what’s in our food than it does with how much we consume…these two intersect when you consider additives like High fructose corn syrup program you to not feel full…

Anonymous

Somebody’s been watching Night at the Roxbury again!!

http://sjones84.blogspot.com/ Solo

I just read it again, in terms of the flaking that you gonna have to bone her to get a second date. It doesn’t matter if you pipe her down like a champ or not, not to brag or toot my horn, but the last women I hooked up with on the field, I boned her for a good hour she even admitted to me later that she was “sore for days”. The way she was yelling during the “pipage” you woulda thought I was Kobe in the hotel room with that lil…

well you get my point

Getting a date with her has been virtually impossible(she is to busy, yadda yadda, ya), and this is a trend not just with her but other women as well. I firmly believe that, now even with “average” women you have to put the “full court press” on in terms of game(not just the “hawt” chicks), you can’t ever slack. This has made the game mundane and cumbersome for me, because these days I don’t feel like putting any sort of effort unto the game at all (yeah I’m lazy)

Making out doesn’t mean shit, Roosh is right, this is something that was so over-glorified by the Pua’s that it’s ridiculous. I could make out with three women a night, and maybe one of them will turn into a bang. But one women? forget about it, making out to women in the field is like shaking your hand. It’s no big deal.

My only suggestion is to try to escalate that night, if she flakes after don’t take it personal, why would you wanna be a white knight, when you piped her down the first night anyway?(unless u wanna keep trying to pipe her?)

the most scary part of this article is that roosh is only half right,this already applies to all woman especially sub par and ugly

http://neointhegame.wordpress.com Neo

I think that guys also have a hand in increasing average and fat girls sense of self to epic proportions. I walk around and see relatively good looking guys with girls who are huge. I know at some point all of us has banged a troll, but there is no reason for any guy to do it consistently. If all of mankind would unite and stop hooking up with fatties we wouldn’t have the problem of overweight woman thinking they are hot.

@Solo not sure i would agree with you on german chicks, certainly wouldn’t call them facially ugly, although it’s true a significant amount of german women dress similarly and have a generic look which is i would say somewhat plain, as opposed to ugly (but still ahead of what’s considered ‘plain’ in many other european countries)
plus they tend to stay in shape and eat more healthily more than other western/central european nationalities
plus they’re more cultured and interesting than the average western/central european
and coming from a s£xually liberated society, they usually know what they’re doing in the bedroom
that’s a pretty good package overall!

Mark

“Whereas for night game in the past you had to make out with a girl to decrease the chances she’ll flake, today you have to fuck her.”

That just goes against that Buyers Remorse theory in the MM.

Shouldnt the girls ASL be highest ( and with it, the odds of flaking ) in the morning after you fuck her after just meeting her?

So which is it?

Living Dead Bachelor

Anon 3 hit the nail on the head

Living Dead Bachelor

I also like what Neo has to say. I find myself in a similar predicament. When you step out of game for a while (for relationship purposes) and then step back in, you notice the change. In the last 3 years (since I was last single), there is a massive difference.

I also think it has a little to do with the mainstream nature of so-called “PUA’s”. This stuff is everywhere now and women probably read it more than men…I imagine it makes them bitter and they reflect that in their behaviour.

The decision to leave the US and become an ex-pat continues to look better and better.

Anonymous

This is the scene in NJ right now. I know plenty of women over 30 still partying. They just get men to buy them drinks and coke in exchange for sex while they keep fishing for the millionaire to marry.

Women are a depreciating commodity and should be treated as such until they prove themselves otherwise.

El Gingo Loco

Interesting points. In certain respects this future has already arrived. I’m that handsome guy with a decent, middle-class job that Roosh is talking about, and I’m here to tell you that without game I would be dead in the water.

But I can’t agree with all the predications. A lot of discussions of what the world will be like as game culture (and the female response to it) matures are predicated on the assumption that all men will learn game and come to be reasonably competent. But that’s not what will happen. The combination of charm, verbal skill, social intelligence, titanium balls, and sheer determination that makes a great gamesman has got to be pretty rare. When the dust settles there won’t be that many talented game guys, which means that things won’t be as bad as the scenario in the first prediction because girls won’t be able to get that spoiled. True alphas (whether natural or game-made; in the end there’s no difference) will always be a luxury for all but the very hottest girls.

It’s also interesting to see different people’s views of the role that looks will play. On the one hand, my (reasonably) good looks weren’t enough for me to get quality girls when I didn’t have game. On the other hand, I definitely think that they give me more room for error when I’m hitting on a cute girl. On the other other hand, I think that if my game were tighter girls would be charmed by me, almost regardless of what I looked like. Game is about getting women to want what you want (sex and love) instead of what they want (superficial attention and validation from a bevy of high-value suitors) so by definition what they want isn’t the be-all and end-all. There are very few girls, even extremely attractive ones, who can’t be seduced by an average-looking guy with tight game. But getting your game to that point takes work.

Doug1

Pretty much the whole post stems from the proposition that a higher and higher percentage of the population will be fatter, with the remaining not fat girls being rarer, and the really hot not fat ones rarer still.

This ignores the fact that almost as high a percentage of guys as girls is fat or obese. I believe it is as high or higher a percentage among American whites. This is likely to remain the same. As well in the under 30 crowd especially it’s mostly girls below HB 6′s who are fatties, though not entirely. Few 8′s and up though stay fat long at least before marriage and pumping out a kid. (Fatties are also far more common at lower SES levels.) All in all I don’t see the pool of hot under thirties drying up relative to the number of non fat men.

As well the obesity epidemic may well reverse. It’s become more widely know that sugar, wheat products, and carbs in general are the main problem.

As I said this whole gloomy post stems from the I think incorrect believe that the relative number of hot girls to alpha guys is going to shrink.

Doug1

T–

The problem with social circle game is this: it is usually tough to get into a social circle that has hot chicks.

For instance, in college the frat guys had the best looking girls.

…but getting into a decent frat was a pain in the ass (dealing with hazing, bs from the “brothers”, etc.).

Lord. Isn’t getting into a social circle with the best looking girls worth some initial “pain in the ass”?

nathan

I love prediction posts like this but I agree with some of the commenters who are saying that this isn’t the future but the present. You said it yourself Roosh, feminism has peaked!

Matt T

@Doug1:

Frats are desirable because they control access to alcohol and women. Among college-age girls, taking them out on dates is considered toolish, boring, and AFC, and usually women will refuse to do anything with you unless you have access to the frat scene.

You can join a frat. Or you know some frat brothers beforehand and you can get in without hazing, though this isn’t as reliable. If you go the second route, be sure to bring girls along to the frat with you. It shouldn’t be hard, just talk to them for a bit beforehand, be fun, don’t go into AFC interview mode, then say something like “Hey, I know some guys at Fiji, wanna go to their party?”.

Whereas asking them for a coffee date would immediately trigger rejection mechanisms, inviting them to a social occasion serves to DHV you since you appear sociable (you have to be since you know dudes in the frat).

Anonymous

I have no respect for girls. Absolutely none. Nobody else should either. I don’t care if the girls is hot as fuck. Treat her like the piece of shit she is. Girls have no use in the world other than being fucked. Literally none.

Guys who act like girls have any value besides serving as warm holes to be fucked and used are idiotic. From the day she is born, girls’ value is only going down down down. Guys’ value, if he is not a lazy dumbfuck is going up up up. Treat those worthless whores accordingly.

Anonymous

@42 straightken

Jesus man. Do you actually think / believe that stuff? wow..

the choice

its not feminism its hoe-ism

Anonymous

This kind of thinking is a direct result of living in DC for too long. There are plenty of black guys who are more than happy to service the fatties. The rest of us need to get out ASAP!

DrG

Agree with #78, black guys have no standards. Hopefully they can occupy the heffers for us.

T

“This kind of thinking is a direct result of living in DC for too long. There are plenty of black guys who are more than happy to service the fatties. The rest of us need to get out ASAP!”

I had someone tell me DC is full of fatties in flip flops.

Is this true?

How bad is DC?

Are there no college bars in DC where you can find young girls who aren’t fatties (yet)?

Anonymous

Why the hell would anyone live in DC? There is a reason why politics are called “Hollywood for ugly people.” Everyone involved in politics is uglier than shit. Move the hell out of DC.

Anonymous

WHORES THEY’RE ALL WHORES!!!!

Pierce

This is true in ATL, NYC, DC. Pretty much any US City except Southern CA or Miami.

Don’t act like NYC girls miss out on their daily dose of Desperate Housewives and Lil Wayne.

Gunslingergregi

Get your loot together and not much to worry about. 7 million millionaires in world out of 7 billion people. Billions of bitches all over world just waiting for my dick. Shit ain’t hard and there will be choices just make sure you got loot to take advantage of it then your gold. The competition for pussy is a joke. There is none. If you got balls and run on a bitch she won’t know what the fuck to do even with all the beta orbitors. Either that or you can buy them. Shit is easy. Think about how much competition there really is not fucking too much.

K-Man

“We should all try to move to Eastern Europe where the girls are hot and live the glamorous life of American expats.”

LMAO. Have you tried that? You are 20 years late, give or take. Check it out: cost of a hooker in Hungary 15-20 years ago: $20; Cost today – $200.
As an American, what skills do you bring to the table that will get you hired as an expat? I mean skills that the locals don’t have, and don’t forget they would cost the employer less than 30% of the salary you will likely request.

Now, Ukraine, Belarus, and countries like that, may be a much better option. However, not to live in as an expat (these jobs are very few and very competitive) but to go there, pick a girl, and bring her back home. Just don’t let her out of the house too much, as her newly-found American friends will quickly indoctrinize her.

Gunslingergregi

Naaa man

Don’t work in the other countries get your shit together so that your job is just to fuck let the bithes you fuck do the work.

http://eveslibrary.wordpress.com/ V

Any men who think women want a stable of “friends with benifits” are projecting. Women may do this, but what is far more common is serially monagamy with sucessfully more and more alpha guys. Guys want polygamy girls want hypergamy. Girls would never be the one driving the friends with benifits scene.

Ideally a girl will find herself a player, get him to commit, betaize him and then move on to the next one. She won’t keep him around afterwards. Come on guys, know your own philosophy.

Why you have the bitch get you more woman can never be betaized and you will always be higher value.

Gunslingergregi

You can lock down a bich under 30 with a mcdonalds job who are you kidding?

How many decent looking ho’s have you seen working minimum wage jobs?

A fucking shitload right?

Come on man lets keep it real.

Gunslingergregi

I don’t need a college educated bitch I just need pussy that looks good.

Gunslingergregi

Hell in a pinch I don’t even need a bitch who looks all that good to live with just a bitch who knows how to work cook my meals feed me and clean up the mess I make while I do what the fuck I want.

Gunslingergregi

Oh yea and brings me her friends.

choichoi

yeah, i agree Hughmann, depressing shit. Especially as I’m reading the book, The Culture Code by Clotaire Paupaille which I would recommend to anyone here who wants to understand the dynamics of American and foreign culture.
“Nearly a third of French women are overweight, though that is still dramatically less than the 62% rate of overweight among adult women in America”, or even more disconcerting, that the American culture codes for seduction and sex are Manipulation (as viewed mainly by women) and Violence respectively (43). It seems like foreign women love when men express their attraction to them (ex: Italians). And sex? I need not mention the Brazilians. It’s sad that the women here have so many hangups

http://www.globaldatingrevolution.com Dan DeLa Cruz

Roosh, I think for the next 10 years or so, money and financial stability will get a lot more important, especially in the United States as the overall economy gets worse. So what I’d add is game + fame + money … although the money is implied with fame I guess, after game + fame, I think game + money (or financial stability) will also become much more important over the next decade.

I’m an eternal optimist… so obviously I’m going to disagree with a bit here.

I DO think the age at which people get more serious about dating and committing is rising into the late 20′s and early 30′s. But women have a biological ceiling on this. By the time they hit 30, they’re running out of time.

I think flaking is a product of culture and will continue to grow.

I think online dating is going to continue to grow.

And I agree with monogamy falling away. Although I don’t particularly think this is a bad thing.

I am pro-polyamory, open marriage and polygamy as long as the couple puts their cards on the table BEFORE they enter into a serious relationship.

To marry someone and 5 years and 2 kids later they announce that they want an “open marriage” … or worse, they get caught cheating and then say, “hey, don’t divorce me, let’s just have an open marriage!”…. NAW. That don’t work.

If you know in your gut that you are not the type to be satisfied with just one partner for the rest of your life – put your cards on the table and suggest an open relationship from the get-go.

I think we’ll see a snap back, as the next generation of 23 year olds settle down for fear of ending up a cougar. As opposed to hearing grandmoms talk about it, they’ll see it, and recoil in fear. However, this is bad for players as women have a tougher standard for marriage than for dating and sex. Enjoy the getting while it’s good. Today is as good as you’ve ever had it.

Shlippy

Roosh knows how to rile up his readers, no doubt. Only betas predict doom and gloom.

Joe

OMG.. yes about flaking. For awhile I thought it was just me, but all my other guy friends have same issue. It’s to the point where I need to book 3 dates for same night just to be sure I don’t end up alone! Ridiculous!

And while these 30-something average-looking American girls are canceling because “I’m soo tired from work” or some other bs excuse… I have not once had one of my hotter younger foreign girlfriends cancel.

Anonymous

Fact 1…only 10% of all marriages are happy.
Fact 2…59% of all marriages end in divorce.
Fact 3…Trying to find a hot looking lady who shares your values and interests is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Fact 4…If you are LUCKY ENOUGH to find your ideal combination don’t screw it up. You will probably never find it again. With all the literature available you can become an expert on lovemaking and if you treat your lady right you can have a high quality relationship for life.
Fact 5..Living a “Game” life is too damn much work. I have other things I want to do with my time.
Fact 6..who wants to bang a hot looking lady who doesn’t share your values or interests???? Not me. I have been with a lot of hot ladies who have personalities, attitudes, interests, and values that give me a limp dick.
Fact 7..I want to be in the 10% of the population that is happily married. I’ve got more important things to do with my time than play the “Game.”

Anonymous

I read this a few months ago when originally posted and kind of scoffed.

Now you are looking like a fucking prophet.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/ M. Simon

So I walk into a bar the other night. Not particularly well dressed. Somewhat unkempt. With the first mate.

I get the big tingle in the belly and then it goes away. Then after a while I notice two HOT women edging in my direction. OK. I strike up a conversation (nearly impossible at 120 dB). They like the band. My son is the drummer. They tell me they are mother and daughter, 40+ and 20+. BOTH coming on to me. So I converse for a while and then grab them both by the waist give them a nice hug (both at the same time) and it was time to leave. Could I have had them. Probably. But I’m not that interested. I’m 67. Moderately trim and LOTS of grey hair. My score is up there. But I’m no longer interested in scoring the way I was when I was younger.

A female wingman is the second best attractant – second only to very high levels of confidence. My mate encourages me to flirt heavily with other women. She says it makes her horny. Who am I to complain?

I have to completely agree with Roosh.. my recent experiences confirm the fact that woman are getting *much* more picky.. even if they are fat cows.. it doesn’t bode well for game.. it seems that, in part due to game, woman are getting what they want most from guys.. ATTENTION!

I really think the feminists are going to have to conceed that shaming men for going to prostitutes is something society is going to have to tolerate or we could be looking at trouble in the future.

Ed

I should refrase that, shaming men for seeing sex workers will become a thing of the past and more will be done to make the sex industry less underground than it is currently.

Robert

It is true, it is all true. I have witnessed and gone through the hassle of finding a girl that settle for the average Joe. I have seen good looking guys with nothing get plain and good looking chicks. I have seen guys with money have it all taken from them by women. A Guy must work his ass off and be very good looking to keep a woman. All this just to get laid for one night. For what, 30 minutes to an hour tops! And I was freaked out by the 30 types of pussy which is also true. 26 of those pussies are used up and have gone bad. I spotted a few of those used ones before. But we must excuse the grannie pussy, that’s explainable, its old, age will do that to most old pussies.

Robert

I had to resort to websites and television just to see a pussy, I was the Guy with money that could get laid by the plain and adverage girl. Now I’m a adverage Guy with nothing, I’m on the hunt for cougar’s, so I can complain if their pussy is out of wack. Speaking of wack, do to this new dating trend I had to Wack myself and pretend it was a girl. I’m not ugly just adverage without money now. Cougars is my new solution if their interested.

Remo

I don’t think this future has a chance because it relies on the continued participation of an able and willing workforce. Feminism and go grrrl crap only succeeds in a place that has abundance enough to afford it. I don’t think this will fly in Great Depression II: violent edition. Roaring economies allow women to partake in whatever pretty little lies they want but *somebody* has to keep the lights on. In Russia you have alcoholic men who resemble 12 year meth heads walking around with blondes rating 8 or 9. As we flower into a full police state with no hope, no businesses, and no reason to do anything other than the bare minimum to get by the affirmative action these chicks rely on dries up. Who pays for it?

http://www.raulfelix.com Raul Felix

Good thing I am working on my game and working on becoming famous now.

Well it’s been like this for the last 5-10 years already. It might get even worse to he point where all men who is not simply a millionaire, celebrity or CEO will per default be cut off from the market. No discussion or doubt, if you don’t have status you will not even try.

Anonymous

I’ve noticed that the only girls that stick around are ones I got in bed (or nearly so) the first night. Also, the two LTR-worthy girls I’ve been with this year had just come out of their own LTRs when I met them. It’s like finding a parking space: you know it’s a seller’s market when you can only get one that JUST became free.

CCRoxtar

This article supports my theory that we humans, after having been a pair-bonding species for centuries, are gradually becoming a tournament species, i.e., a species in which a small percentage of the males sire all the offspring, while the rest are genetic dead ends. You know the phenomenon in China of “bare branches” (unmarried men who can’t find spouses/partners)? Well, the Western world has something similar now. The only difference is that in China, the women aren’t there, having been aborted, killed or abandoned as baby girls; whereas in the West the women are there, but are not interested. I’ve also heard of the 80/20 rule: in the business world, 80% of profits come from 20% of customers, & in the dating world, 80% of women find 20% of men attractive. As for me, I would at this point prefer a sex doll over a real woman. We guys are hard-wired for female companionship, but those of us who can’t find it, learn to make do. Being alone ain’t as bad in my 30s as it seemed in my teens & 20s.

Ron

It will become a slave state.

Claus

future of game sept. 2010 a vision
2013 reality in every fukn western society.

“Otherwise you’ll be approaching all day and night to fuck a 6 who stops calling you after a couple bangs”

hard words from a hard man^^

http://bigbadchinesemama Pookus

Roosh…I’m going to come out and openly say that I’m a white biggoted southern male.I would not want to live in D.C. simply due to the fact that is full of “Niggs”…if I’m not mistaken roughly around 60% or more?What a shame to know that our nation’s capital also happens to be one of the most viloent cities to call home!I grew up in Atlanta(lot’s of niggs there too…albeit 50% of the city)uh…I’m heading to the promise land…”Montana”…0.004% nigg(cold…but,I don’t give a fuck!)so Roosh how could you even attempt to live in Washington?

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I think there is only 1 solution: all guys should stop hitting on women. To be honest, I don’t even know why guys are hitting on women anyway. When I was around 12 to 14 years old girls were the ones hitting on boys. So how come that after that age everything gets flipped around ?

diego

Men should learn from women and only have sex with women above their league.

mike

help me

NotEvenRemotelyInterested

I think this article is a little tongue in cheek (some points are serious though)

A lot of women do want sex too and I don’t believe that will change (in fact, I predict the numbers of these desirable creatures will increase for various reasons).

Don’t be depressed by this article and use it as motivation to better yourself.

Joe Nameth

Wow, this is all true. I’ve noticed this happening myself. Been meaning to settle down for years, but none of the women I’ve dated seem interested in that (No, it’s not me, just the concept in general)
On the one hand I kind of get it, more ladies more fun right? But it feels kinda cheap, would love to find a real partner–and not someone in the “lifestyle” with six other men on the side.

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