So, picking up the discussion of showrooming and buying from merchants abroad (some of whom mark the value down so as to avoid customs fees), I learned something interesting today. At least some credit card price protection schemes only require you to prove that the thing you bought is available at a lower price---the other price doesn't have to be domestic or denominated in dollars. So, in theory, you should be able to buy something at the brick-and-mortar shop whose salespeople helped you out and where you tried on whatever, and then go to your CC company and say, see, I coulda got it cheaper over here, and get a rebate. You'd still have to pay taxes and there might be a limit on how much of a rebate you can get, and it would probably be helpful if the non-VAT price is displayed, but it seems like it ought to work.

how heavily have you worn them though and do you use the included insole? from what I can tell the lined tornadoes don't have a structured heel cup which can result in issues down the line depending on the softness of the leather, etc.

how heavily have you worn them though and do you use the included insole? from what I can tell the lined tornadoes don't have a structured heel cup which can result in issues down the line depending on the softness of the leather, etc.

My first pair I still wear hard, could be the only boot I wear for a week then give it a break. I do use the insole provided as well. That heel slouch I saw on pre 2010 models. Also my versions are all horse. The slouch probably happens on kangaroo which is a slouchy leather. I don't think bison would have that issue.

If you want I can post a pic of my sbuc-ptc and other than regular wear and tear I haven't had an issue. FYI I have a pic of them in the CCP thread, first few pages.

My first pair I still wear hard, could be the only boot I wear for a week then give it a break. I do use the insole provided as well. That heel slouch I saw on pre 2010 models. Also my versions are all horse. The slouch probably happens on kangaroo which is a slouchy leather. I don't think bison would have that issue.

If you want I can post a pic of my sbuc-ptc and other than regular wear and tear I haven't had an issue. FYI I have a pic of them in the CCP thread, first few pages.

fair enough, my LUC pair is getting a bit of an indentation in the heel despite been horse. my bison pair is holding up fine (a few hundred wears in, and I usually walk at least 5-6 miles a day). my kanga derbies are fine, the leather is actually quite rigid however they do have a structured heel cup.

I'm careful about rain and snow but otherwise I wear everything hard. Condition leather every couple of months, replace vibram as needed and no worries otherwise. I walk 3-4 miles a day and wear pretty much everything in my collection as daily rotation. I wore one pair of my dual zips for nearly 3 contiguous days at a festival last year.

fair enough, my LUC pair is getting a bit of an indentation in the heel despite been horse. my bison pair is holding up fine (a few hundred wears in, and I usually walk at least 5-6 miles a day). my kanga derbies are fine, the leather is actually quite rigid however they do have a structured heel cup.

Well I haven't worn my LUC hard yet but time will tell.

@psydle and I seem to do the same thing, wear hard, clean and condition occasionally although I've been cleaning less cuz I haven't been having time.