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Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

How would a ship sailing to Gaza winf up in Israeli territorial waters?

Go look at a map...

Originally Posted by washunut

Are you saying that no blockade is legal, and that JFK was a criminal, stopping the Soviets bringing missles to Cuba?

No, I am saying Israel's blockade of Gaza is illegal because:
- it does not distinguish between civilian and military
- the damage to the civilian population is excessive in relation to the direct military advtange gained
- the blockade is not effective in reducing militants' capabilities to launch rockets in Israel

And do you think JFK banned chocolate, shoes, coriander, ginger, jam, potato chips, fresh meat, dried fruit, etc. from Cuba? Can you tell me what direct military advantage is gained from banning those items? That is why the blockade is illegal and will always be illegal until Israel revises the terms of that blockade.http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/Hidd...trip060510.pdf

Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

Originally Posted by Degreez

Go look at a map...

No, I am saying Israel's blockade of Gaza is illegal because:
- it does not distinguish between civilian and military
- the damage to the civilian population is excessive in relation to the direct military advtange gained
- the blockade is not effective in reducing militants' capabilities to launch rockets in Israel

And do you think JFK banned chocolate, shoes, coriander, ginger, jam, potato chips, fresh meat, dried fruit, etc. from Cuba? Can you tell me what direct military advantage is gained from banning those items? That is why the blockade is illegal and will always be illegal until Israel revises the terms of that blockade.http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/Hidd...trip060510.pdf

How can you distinguish between a civilian and a soldier when the civilian is a suicide bomber. Remember the Wooden Horse Of Troy?

Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

Is Gisha.org a legitimate source?

(It's supported by George Soros to the tune of 200k/year.)

It could, of course, be left-wing and legit. Is it?

Gisha expresses sorrow at reports that dozens of civilians have been killed or injured during the Israeli military's interception of boats bound for the Gaza Strip, carrying humanitarian assistance and hundreds of foreign and Israeli activists, including elected representatives...

It would be better for all concerned – Israel, Palestinian residents of Gaza, and those seeking to visit Gaza – if Israel would allow the regular and free passage of people, raw materials for industry, building materials, and export goods in and out of Gaza, subject only to concrete, individual security checks.

Re: Flotilla passengers: Go back to Auschwitz

How can you distinguish between a civilian and a soldier when the civilian is a suicide bomber. Remember the Wooden Horse Of Troy?

So Israel is forced, through no fault of their own, to treat all citizens of Gaza like insane and vicious enemy combatants.
Got it.

Well, you know what? It is their fault. They should move if that's how they feel.
Personally, I'm sick of Israel whining and systematically oppressing everyone around them because they're Islamic and when it comes to Islamics "Israel can't tell the difference between a civilian and a suicide bomber".
I'm tired of them justifying atrocities with this crappy excuse.
I have no sympathy.
In that case, they should've established their "homeland" elsewhere besides smack-dab in the middle of the Islamic world.