If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.

Ringo48:If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.

bluefox3681:Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.

You do realize that there's an entire spectrum of possible actions between "Do nothing and never do nothing" and "Public humiliation", do you not? Do you realize that one of these things is considered a human rights violation?

But please, don't let the facts get in the way of your haughty, imaginary strawman.

EdgeRunner:Congrats, kid. Thanks to your mom, you just pre-flunked every job interview in town.

/"Hey, that's the sandwich board kid. Don't waste money on a drug screening, just go to the next candidate."

Because all interviewers google all applicants before hiring them.

I used to do hiring for a company I used to work at. My rule of thumb was if someone had a police record from when they were a minor, and it was only a one time offense, I'd still consider them for the job. The only thing that was an instant no go was felons. Even if they were 13 when convicted and it was a one time offense, I could not hire them. This won't keep him from getting hired on at Jack in the Box or Wal-Mart. Hell, even if he was googled by an employer 15 years from now and this was found and between then and now he graduated from high school and then college and got his Bachelors then this story wouldn't cause him to fail his interview.

When I was in elementary school I had a teacher that made a tail out of yarn and made me wear it for being a "tattle tail." I told on some kid that was stealing from another kid. It was pretty humiliating, and I sure learned my lesson.

/snitches get stitches//this was like 25 years ago so they didn't call in the 5-0 on the other kid

TuteTibiImperes:bluefox3681: Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.

Or, you know, she could have just grounded him, taken away the cell phone, PS3/Xbox/Wii, and computer, and made him come straight home after school for a week or two with no free time allowed to be spent with friends.

I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.

Maybe that was the point.

A little humiliation from one's parents is easier to get through than what cops would do to him. The punishment sends a clear message that he is not being careful enough, an if he doesn't shap up, he'll end up in real trouble.

pedrop357:What's the harm? Listening to the pro-legalization crowd, occasional marijuana usage doesn't cause any long term damage. Why punish him at all?

1. It may be less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes, true...but it's still currently illegal2. Even if it wasn't, 13-year olds are typically ill-equipped to do anything in moderation3. See 14. As long as the kid lives in the parents' house for free, parents set the rules, this mom is not okay with marijuana use, end of story5. See 1

I don't give a shiate about this low-budget press-seeking Kardashian or her Doobie Brother son but if I ever have kids they will be wearing sandwich boards and wander around in fenced in corral...because I had to change a diaper ONCE!

rustik:When I was in elementary school I had a teacher that made a tail out of yarn and made me wear it for being a "tattle tail." I told on some kid that was stealing from another kid. It was pretty humiliating, and I sure learned my lesson.

Stealing money from someone else is not the same as doing drugs: one violates the rights of others, and one is (except in certain cases) self-harm. While we have the right to decide what to do with our own persons, violating the rights of others should never be acceptable. Society is behooved when people speak out or act against those who violate the rights of others. Your teacher was idiotic and tried to teach you an idiotic lesson.

My step mom did shiat like this... I have not spoken with her in 10 years (outside of work) because of her "tough love"- We work in the same place, but her pot smoking step-son makes about double her salary as a server admin. AND that pisses her off too.

davidphogan:Ringo48: If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.

There's no way this druggie kid is going to aspire to anything other than low-level food service positions, or possibly janitorial work.

MixedNut:When I was in the first grade my mopther caught me lying about something and put a sign around my neck saying "Don't trust me I am a liar'" and sent me off to school. Needless to say I did not want to go to school like that but she forced me to leave. I walked to the end of the driveway and stood there in tears for a while till mom figured I had had learned a lesson and called me back, took off the sign and sent me to school. Yes I learned a lesson and was very careful about the telling the truth from that day on. Of course I have lied since then, everyone lies, but usually only to people who were a-holes and didn't deserve the truth.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.

This^

This times a million. Farking teenagers. As for mine, I've already told him if he gets arrested, he better like jail because I'm not bailing him out. I don't care what your opinion is about marijuana (and mine are very liberal), teenagers should not be getting high. They already make enough bad decisions without throwing in weed, booze or anything else that alters the mind.

truthseeker2083:Or you can see that most of the legalize crowd call for it to be legal for adults over the age of 18. Which this kid isn't.

The issue of people under 21 (which is the usual age in any proposal) is what's kept me from giving more support to legalization groups.

Here we have people telling us (and I agree) that marijuana is less harmful then tobacco or alcohol, is not addictive, is not a gateway drug, effectively has no lethal dose, etc. AND they tell us the drug war (either as a whole or as it pertains to marijuana) is abusive, counterproductive, corrosive to a free society, expensive and needlessly wasteful of resources (police power, court time, money, etc.), THEN they propose to remove most or all of those onerous things from adults and leave them intact as applied to young people.

Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

All the legalization movement largely seems to do is say is "Leave us adults alone, and spend your time going after them (teenagers)" which is cowardly and immoral on its face and outright cruel when considering that the types of policies left intact to be aimed at those young people are the same ones attacked as unjust when aimed at adults.

The day one of these attempts to legalize marijuana succeeds will be a sorry day for middle and high school students. All those drug war resources aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to spend more time tossing lockers and running drug dogs through schools, the labs that used to drug test adults will have a lot more free time to test chess club members and you can bet that "random" drug testing will become even more accessible in terms of time and money. The worst part is, they'll find more. Not just because they're looking more, but because marijuana will become even more accessible due to the ease of adults in obtaining it.

You can claim conspiracy if you want, but I've yet to see a single drug legalization proposal that does anything to ease the burden of drug prohibition on young people, that calls for a 'stand down' in terms of resources, or does anything to ensure that young people won't get two to three times more drug war aimed solely at them.

As long as the drug legalization movement keeps pushing "adults only" proposals that either actively push more burden on or fail to protect from burden shifting towards young people, then I unfortunately and sadly hope that they fail. Until people realize that this kind of crap is intolerable and immoral no matter who it's aimed at, then I support the shiatty status quo where everyone gets farked somewhat equally.

davidphogan:Ringo48: If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.

Drug use isn't even illegal. Possession of it is. Furthermore, the FBI probably wouldn't care.

NetOwl:I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.

Maybe that was the point.

A little humiliation from one's parents is easier to get through than what cops would do to him. The punishment sends a clear message that he is not being careful enough, an if he doesn't shap up, he'll end up in real trouble.

To me, it illustrates that the worst thing that can and will happen if you smoke pot is that you'll get caught. If he doesn't stop, "he'll end up in real trouble" not because marijuana will fark you up or make you crash your car or jump off a building, but because someone more powerful than Mom and Dad will catch you.

The parent is another exhibit in the long line of things called "What's wrong with the South". Also acceptable are "Why we can't have nice things in the South" and "A family tree spared by William T. Sherman".

pedrop357:truthseeker2083: Or you can see that most of the legalize crowd call for it to be legal for adults over the age of 18. Which this kid isn't.

The issue of people under 21 (which is the usual age in any proposal) is what's kept me from giving more support to legalization groups.

Here we have people telling us (and I agree) that marijuana is less harmful then tobacco or alcohol, is not addictive, is not a gateway drug, effectively has no lethal dose, etc. AND they tell us the drug war (either as a whole or as it pertains to marijuana) is abusive, counterproductive, corrosive to a free society, expensive and needlessly wasteful of resources (police power, court time, money, etc.), THEN they propose to remove most or all of those onerous things from adults and leave them intact as applied to young people.

Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

All the legalization movement largely seems to do is say is "Leave us adults alone, and spend your time going after them (teenagers)" which is cowardly and immoral on its face and outright cruel when considering that the types of policies left intact to be aimed at those young people are the same ones attacked as unjust when aimed at adults.

The day one of these attempts to legalize marijuana succeeds will be a sorry day for middle and high school students. All those drug war resources aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to spend more time tossing lockers and running drug dogs through schools, the labs that used to drug test adults will have a lot more free time to test chess club members and you can bet that "random" drug testing will become even more accessible in terms of time and money. The worst part is, they'll find more. Not jus ...

One thing at a time. Remind me again of the life long criminal record you see for a kid caught smoking a cigarette. I know it will probably be worse than that, but lets have one step at a time. Its the attitude of "if we can't do it perfect, lets never do it" that slows this down. When have you ever seen anything implemented properly the first go round? That is why you work toward change, then improve it.