Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Why So Many Shootings?

An early Tuesday gun battle on the North Side is part of a sudden, unexplained rise in police-involved shootings in recent weeks, authorities said.

Tom Byrne, the Chicago Police Department’s chief of detectives, said he can’t explain the spike — which is happening in a year in which police-involved shootings have been trending downward.

But he said the shootings are a demonstration of aggressive policing.

Really? Aggressive policing? Waitress? Whatever the Chief is having, we'll take a double.

Surprisingly, someone else touches on what we believe to be part of the reason:

[some guy], president of the Fraternal Order of Police, said he thinks criminals have become bolder because of a continuing police manpower shortage.

“They have no respect for authority and will pull a gun out to keep themselves out of prison,” [some guy] said.

Since the end of August, officers have shot six people in Chicago, police said.

There are a combination of factors contributing directly to an increase in flying lead, manpower being but the most obvious of them. The recent tendencies to toss any-and-every cop under the bus for the sake of political expediency, the overly political prosecution of cases long since closed and/or forgotten, and the resultant increase of weapon movement due to the listed factors (i.e. police are actually less aggressive) means more guns on the street, more shots fired at opponents, more police literally stumbling into gun fights that normally wouldn't be occurring.

Byrne's supposition is ludicrous. The second theory has been espoused here for a couple of years now, far before of the tenure of the current occupant of the FOP office.

UPDATE: Once again, one month doesn't make a trend. McCompStat bragged about numbers trending down in July, then got buried in August, making July the aberration, not the trend.

You missed Byrnes best quote. He attributed the aggressive policing to "young officers". Meaning you old timers dont do shit. He kind of let the cat out of the bag with the departments thinking of get rid of the old timers.

Off topic - now that you mentioned "some guy", does anyone have a link to the infamous "letter" that was discussed on the Blog a while ago. I was waiting to hear about it at work but no one knew anything about it. Thanks, and no, im not a troll. Just want to see what the big deal was with the "letter"that concerning our union pres

All the police could ever really do is keep a lid on ghetto violence. With increased restrictions on how police are alowed to do that come less desireable results.Don't shoot film of the sausage factory operations if you want it to continue making sausage.

Agressive policing?? Seriously? Are you shitting me with this? We can't do anything out here without the department acting like we're stepping on our own dicks! You get thrown under the bus for ANYTHING! Sgt. Howard slaps a kid under the pod cam after getting spat on and he's looking at 5 years in prison. Don't for a minute tell me that shit like THAT doesn't have an affect on how people are policing now. Most of us have homes, families, and bills to pay. So in the age of shit bags hiring attorneys and slapping law suits on cops for doing their jobs is directly responsible for the police being LESS aggressive. The only ones that I see that are being very aggressive anymore are new guys who feel like they have something to prove. We were all there before, so I don't fault them, but they need to learn that this department won't do SHIT for you no matter how aggressive you are. If they use you as a pawn to save their own asses, they will. They'll fire you in a New York minute and throw you under the bus for politic's sake. So he can take this "more agressive policing" bull shit and ram it sideways. That is NOT why gun fights with the police are up. Not at all. More stories for the media. I've been hearing for years that the pendulum swings one way and then the other and I've been waiting nearly 10 years now for it to swing the other way and it ain't happenin'. Last one out, turn out the lights.

Tom Byrne is just another political hack who will tell you whatever the 5th floor wants told. None of these bosses today have any balls. None. Bewteen Daley and the Evil Raccoon they have destroyed a once great police dept. No matter what officers are going to protect their own lives. If the Thugs want to point those guns in our direction then we will respond as needed. Fuck this city. You should go home the same way you came to work. No one is going to take a slug for these asshole politicians.

Hey D"A@@" its called I want to go home to my family thats why were trained to eliminate a threat, and if the threat of a shit head pointing a gun and ready to kill you, officers will definately eliminate the threat so they can go home to their families!!!!

Less and less police on the street no matter what the Rahmster says means that there is less and less backup. So it is more likely criminals will act aggressively and offices will fire their weapons.

As Clint Eastwood (Inspector Harry Callahan SFPD) said, "Nothing wrong with shooting, as long as the right people get shot."

Note to SCC: Can you get and post that Motivational Poster that features McDufass in costume looking over his left shoulder. The caption reads something like,"BULLSHIT Telling everyone crime is down where there are more murders in Chicago than anywhere else in America." I saw a Xerox of it on a bulletin board and I'd like to get a really good copy.

Remember just a week or so ago either rahm or McCarthy were saying that shooting were down compared to last year? Well the trib finally comes out and states that we are actually 168 or so shootings more than last year. So these guys just flat out lie to the public. They have the data so it's not like they couldn't have know. They just Lie right to our face.

the ctu strike has taken all the media attention away from the shootings--- more interesting is a breaking news story that rahm is looking at closing between 80 and 120 schools on the south and west sides after the strike is over--- he wants more charter schools--- the manpower shortage on the cpd is shameful and directly correlates with more armed offenders challenging police...

You missed Byrnes best quote. He attributed the aggressive policing to "young officers". Meaning you old timers dont do shit. He kind of let the cat out of the bag with the departments thinking of get rid of the old timers.

Fine by me. I've got over 20 years now. Buy me out. Let all the young ones "run and gun".

Just let me know in advance when and where the 10-1 functions for all the young and stupid, eh.....I mean enthusiastic coppers are being held.

Being aggressive in this current political climate is suicide. We are nothing but political sacrificial lambs being lead to the slaughter everytime some generational link card holder cries police brutality.

Off topic - now that you mentioned "some guy", does anyone have a link to the infamous "letter" that was discussed on the Blog a while ago. I was waiting to hear about it at work but no one knew anything about it. Thanks, and no, im not a troll. Just want to see what the big deal was with the "letter"that concerning our union pres

Near end of teacher's protest yesterday a protest organizer approaches the 001st Dist XO and asks if there is anything to the texts that they've been getting from the media stating that CPD has buses lined up ready for mass arrests. XO informs him that CPD has no plans for mass arrests and we don't want to arrest CPS teachers. Further investigation reveals the CTA buses were lined up waiting for traffic to be opened. This is the media we deal with.

I cant understand why people never blame the courts, judges and asa s as part of the blame. How many times do you catch these shitbags on the street with guns drugs, stealing, robbing, hot cars ect ect. And they are out on parole or probation for the exact same thing you cAught them dirty on. Put these gang banging, shit bags, drains on society in jail where they belong. No fucking "deals" that let them back on the street. I hate this city and department beacuse everybody knows the answers to the questions, but nobody has the balls to say it!!

The problem is that Li'l Tommy is so far removed from the reality of policing that he believes that shit. He's allowed his precious Detective Bureau to be decimated, not even able to make the time tested argument that THE MORE CRIMINALS ARRESTED, THE LESS FUTURE CRIME THERE'LL BE! Hence, low clearance rates = more crime.

I'm in Patrol, but if you think we have it bad, look at the dicks - absolutely overwhelmed with work.

You missed Byrnes best quote. He attributed the aggressive policing to "young officers". Meaning you old timers dont do shit. He kind of let the cat out of the bag with the departments thinking of get rid of the old timers.

9/12/2012 12:11:00 AM

What young officers? The lowest seniority in many districts is like 5 years or more. The department actually has to hire people for there to be young officers.

Off Topic:Hey President Mike Shields, I listened to your words of wisdom at the teachers rally yesterday.Please STOP referring to the Chicago Public School Teachers as fucking hero's.Yesterday was a day intended for the remembrance of those real hero's who died on Sept 11th.Stop grandstanding and next time you speak at an event, step aside after your comments and get out of the camera view.You went to a Catholic School for your education, so as they said during NATO "remember your training"

Looks like "Good Guy" Tom Bryne is trying to catch up to McJacass in the stupid comment category.

Fuck Bryne. Much like the rest of these bosses, he part of the problem, and brings nothing to the table when it comes to making the d unit a better place. The consummate yes man.

That's the problem with current CPD boss demographics. All too young to retire, therefore they must continue to be the jizz gogglers that they are. " Yes Boss" " Good idea Boss"

There's nobody left that is truly KMA that will tell Mcwifebeater that all his strategies and initiatives are bullshit. A bunch of bootlickers and ass kissers who don't deserve, or should get, our respect.

That is of course until McFuckstick leaves and all those ass kissers tell the rank and file how much of a jag he was and that they didn't agree with him and fought him on everything. They can go suck it.

You missed Byrnes best quote. He attributed the aggressive policing to "young officers". Meaning you old timers dont do shit. He kind of let the cat out of the bag with the departments thinking of get rid of the old timers.

9/12/2012 12:11:00 AM

Byrne is fucking idiot for saying that young, aggressive officer shit. Defense and civil attorneys will turn that into young, inexperienced, scared(white man in ghetto), and over aggressive(looking for something that isnt there). Byrne just took Rham/Gerry's talking point and turned into a gameplan for shithead's lawyer.

The underclass is growing therefore expect more violent crime in the future. We keep on running away and they keep following us. I was at 26th and California they other day and cannot believe the level of activity. It seems that the criminal population continues to grow and keep pace with the growth in the underclass. We keep feeding them(EBT cards) and housing them (section 8 vouchers) and they will continue to increase in population size. One day this madness will stop when America goes broke.

I said it on a previous post, why these coppers who work the southside and west side get out of their cars to make contact with these thugs is beyond me. The city and county asa are looking for a copper to charge for a unjustifiable homicide! Just answer your radio assignments, scratch out a report, and drive by and wave at everything else. Put yourself in a position where you have to pull that trigger and you will see how fast you start looking, feeling , and being treated as a offender by this city and county.

OT, as long as democrats are in charge of our local and federal government we are not safe. Our Embacies get attacked and our government apologize to the attackers. Why appologize for our freedom of religion and speech. Fuck it lets light some mourning candles and release some balloons . What a pussy country we have become.

Wow gary lied again. Was in two districts today and both commanders offices were filled to the brim with full duty po's. So much for all admin officers would be on the street like you said sunday night.

Does anyone really think that hiring more police is the magic potion to all of society's problems? It's not. Yes, it might make you feel better knowing that your assist car is manned and reasonably close. However, as has been stated here ad nauseum, you could put a copper on every corner of certain neighborhoods and it would not make a bit of difference. And the people in the neighborhoods not affected (yet), are more worried about property taxes, other city services, and losing their jobs, rather than increasing the city's pension debt. So don't expect any major hiring anytime soon. Unfortunately, nobody gives a shit. Something's got to give.

What message is being sent to criminals when:— there's a sitting Mayor and Supt in denial— the City reduces police manpower— bogus faith based leaders blame police for the conditions of their community — the Cook Co States Atty doesn't prosecute — the Cook Co Judges with their revolving door policies grant leniency— the Cook Co Board President says too many certain people are being arrested. — the Govenor grants early releases or pardons convicts

This City has 50 elected sock monkeys sitting around part time, and can't come up with a solution to the crime problem, why do we need them?

a guy i worked with once used to be a sheriff down south in new mexicotake about being stretched thinhe was nearly the only law on the border his area was nearly ninty(90) square miles of border by himself(not sure if his 'yahoo's" were worse then our yahoo's up herei'm not sure how many blocks a officers has to watch in chicagobut obviously going in anywhere day or night by themselves would be scary so i can understand why there might be what seems a "shoot first" and ask later" type of incident happeningalso it will problatey be attributated to a young officers rather then a mature experinced officeras aggressive? well when you see 5 yahoo's on a corner and you know it'sa drug area naturelly you want to ask what's going on(beat officers know who lives where on the block and who don't)beside isn't there an ordinance staying no 5 people gathering on the block

Where else but the World-Class city of Chicago would your elected officials add the teachers pension benefits to their wage increase demands to make their wage demands look inflated and unreasonable!?

World-Class baby!

I mean really..

It's not like the city is funding the pensions anyways, right? So what difference does it make.

Hey, we'll give you a 20% increase in wages. We'll put it all in the pension fund for you, and then we just won't pay it! How ya like that?

We're not that far from it.

We'll point at those golden handcuff pension benefits year after year for 20..30..40 years and when it comes time to cash in -- welp, we can't afford that! Sorry bad day for you hah-ha. But did you see our $55 mil. Maggie Daley park though or been out on our $140,000 per mile bike paths? So cool yes?

The Teachers 3%, 2%, 2%, 2% wage increase comes out to about 9% over FOUR years and the city is saying 16% which is still kind of funny math if they are saying the difference of 7% is all pensions. Look at it this way. For every $9 dollar increase in gross wages the city is implying that there is an additional $7 in benefits cost?

Hell by comparison, health care expenses are rising 9% per year for at least the last five years. After four years that's a 41% increase!

How about anyone with a savings account or investment account where the Feds took away their "time value of money" in bonds by manipulating the interest rates with the "quantitative easing" krap.

If your financial planning counted on the historical 5% interest rate of return for example now you're getting 1.75% on a ten year bond, sometimes less. THAT'S A HUGE WAGE CUT, an income cut plain and simple.

Just look at the size of it percentage wise compared to what the teachers union is asking for.

Quantitative easing. Yeah it sounds so not offensive. How could you not like something that is easing eh? The media focuses you on all the benefits to the people that want to borrow more money and spend beyond their means but punishes every single saver doing the right thing by taking away their interest income. But let's not look at that from a saver's perspective. No, no-no. This helps business hahaha..

How much did Illinois raise the State Income Tax by? 66%, right? Not over four years in one year.

How about Chicago gasoline prices and CTA and Metra fare increases? The license plate and city sticker fees? The water and sewer bill increases.

Yeah think about it. The transfer of wealth continues. $144 million to Obama's campaign fund to buy advertising to promote propaganda and what do we gain from that propaganda?

OT ... Heard that President Shields is attempting to dump two long time board members out of the FOP. Their sin? They "released" the "confidential memo" sent by President Shield's former secretary to former FOP elected personnel. That's the same memo that was on SCC and had been floating around the Department for weeks. Now, Shields wants to get rid of these two board members who have always had our guy's backs and replace them with his own people. This would be a true travesty if we let it happen.

OT only 61 police officers have signed up to retire in 2013 , 55 and free heaLTH CARE .

Will FOP demand rahm the ballerina pay police officers pension ?How about demand that city of chicago pay their part of cpd pension and money owed to pension before they ask for any increase in our contributions or reduction in benefits for current and future retirees .

Personally, I believe that every inquiry into an event or number of police involved shootings should automatically include the present number (stats) of people shot and/or killed to date.Those numbers speak for themselves. When all those numbers are taken into account, police who patrol those areas 24/7 who get involved are actually low, less than 1%.The reporters should be asked WHY he/she is not concerned about the 'individual' cases of people shooting/killing one another in over 500 cases in the city. Yet they question cases when the legitimately armed police must defend themselves from these same people. Every response by a boss or Camden in a police involved shooting should include citing the overall shooting numbers along with the lack of CPD manpower in their answers.

12:46am. I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU 1000%. I came on in 1970 when the Police had control of the BEAST and we were backed by the Department and MOST of the higher ups. Where it changed I am totaly lost for an answer. Your post should be on the front page of the SCUM TIMES for all to read. Peace Brother.

Limited CPD;More people are poor than ever;People are frustrated at most every level;andDaley, Madigan, every gov we've had over the past 30 years, and Rahm suck since they have caused the poverty and frustration

Anonymous said...Tom Byrne is just another political hack who will tell you whatever the 5th floor wants told. None of these bosses today have any balls. None. Bewteen Daley and the Evil Raccoon they have destroyed a once great police dept. No matter what officers are going to protect their own lives. If the Thugs want to point those guns in our direction then we will respond as needed. Fuck this city. You should go home the same way you came to work. No one is going to take a slug for these asshole politicians.

Another opinion is that people are getting back into a corner.The American Dream is being taken back by corrupt politicians and cronies looting the coffers.As jobs disappear and hope drifts away, folks get pissed off. Their pissed that their jobs are vanishing, that the few that are working are seeing their money isn’t going to make the rent or the car payment. That gas prices have taken front seat and their dentist will be put on hold for another year. You see corrupt politicians over and over again and they seem to get a sense that it doesn't make a difference to bust their ass anymore.....Unfortunately some view us as being part of the government, that’s scary. They can just read this blog and you can realize that we are not. This blog has more integrity then all of the lame media outlets combined, and that’s a fact.

Another shot in 024 last night, 2 shot in 020 last week. Heard an info report that was read to us in roll call which stated one of the cease fire scamming thugs who is getting paid $3K/mo. by our wonderful city (who according to rahm, has no money for things like police, teachers, firefighters, etc.) is involved in narcotics sales in area of Lawrence/sheridan where there is territory dispute, and in company of the suspected offender in 2 separate shooting incidents. Outrageous how this hack mayor and his cronies approved spending the city's money on these gang banging thugs who are now getting subsidized by the government to sell dope and degrade communities even further.

Anonymous said...Off topic - now that you mentioned "some guy", does anyone have a link to the infamous "letter" that was discussed on the Blog a while ago. I was waiting to hear about it at work but no one knew anything about it. Thanks, and no, im not a troll. Just want to see what the big deal was with the "letter"that concerning our union pres

9/12/2012 12:29:00 AM I agree. This letter was supposed to so "wide spread" but to this day not one person in my unit has seen it any most never even heard of the incident.

McCarthy's insiders have just been asked by City Hall to come up with a Police Officer evaluation. It's bare bones will include medical time off, compensatory time off, arrests, citations (ANOVs and movers), and a "productivity grade" by the unit's commanding officer.

Much of this data was collected under Weis' evaluation program, so the new task for McCarthy is to determine how much each factor weighs in the evaluation.

This new program will be part of the upcomming contract. The city will propose to beef up the evaluation language that already existed in the contract, but was never enforced.

Is merit pay in our future? Probably not. But, the city will use poor evaluations as a means to discipline (ie. suspend) officers, which has the same effect of reducing pay for substandard performance, rather than increasing pay for excellence.

The city will not back down to the teachers union on evaluations. This will encompass every city service, including firemen.

Hold judges accountable. No one cares about authority anymore. And as long as judges aren't sending messages with long prison times for shooting at officers, it will continue. What do they have to worry about. They should all be charged with attempted murder. Maybe these criminals would think twice about firing. But that's assuming they have brains. And if you're shooting at cops, you don't have any.

Off the shooting topic..Just watched the mayor give a press confrence about the strike..He kept comparing Bostons teachers pay/contract to Chicago..Hope we can use that argurment with NYPD compared to CPD.. he prob wont go for that tho..

After reading this comment this morning I am just peeved. Police get shoved under the bus for just about anything these days. What really hurts is when the statement comes from one of your own. Without going into a thirty page rant about why there are so many shootings, I recommend a book that was written by Terrance Howard. Terrance was a patrolman for 24 years with the Chicago Police Department. He was in patrol in 005, 021, and was a tactical guy, an FTO, and acting desk sgt. There is credibility here in his book and although I was leery at first about what he had to say, after reading it I couldn't have said it better myself. The books title is THIS GUNS FOR HIRE ( A look inside the mind of a street cop ) by Terrance Howard. The author talks about everything from JACK DANIELS to JAZZ, from ROOKIES to VETERANS, and RACE RELATIONS to GANGBANGERS. After reading this book, now the public may know why there are more shootings these days. An item of interest is that CITY HALL and 35th street are absolutely fuming that this book was published. After reading the book, it is nothing more then the TRUTH about the job of a Chicago Police Officer on the streets of Chicago. Maybe that's why CITY HALL is fuming.

The almost 2000 police officers we're short is a huge part of the crime problem in Chicago, the other - our broken judicial system in Crook County. Slap on the hand for your crime and youre back on the street to do it all over again. Its a joke and a real shame.

A comment was made in passing that CPD doesn't seem to have the number of killers in the ranks as once upon a time.

(Shoot these motherfuckers harder!)

The guys with a half dozen, a dozen or more justifiable killings under their belts...

We won't name names in the modern era but legends like Frank Pape and Sylvester "Two-Gun Pete" Washington come to mind...

Anyway...

This stuff is cyclical.

We remember a string of justified killings by The Police sometime in the late 80's...

There was so much ink spilled and the wind-up dentures on local network news clacked furiously about how shit heads being serially dispatched to their deserving doom was indicative of a PROBLEM with The Police.

9/12/2012 12:46:00 AMWell said sir. For 31 years I watched the the pendulum swing for one side to the other, while trying to keep my sanity in check. All I cant tell you is to ride it out. It will evenually turn back the other way, when the liberals start becoming the victims.

Aggressive young guys? Whats your definition of young? 38? The average age on my tact team is 39!Note to Byrne and the city, you have to HIRE to get young aggressive guys, or increase our lifespans to 100+ years.

off topic: Hey Old man, good move last night. Guess you made some friends taking care of them. Too bad it's the dogs you take care of for some reason. Your the best, glad your out there for us and have our back Lol. What a joke you have become...

Off topic but relevant, we better pay attention to the situation in Egypt and Libya. The Embassies and staffs have been attacked in the last 2 days and people have died. Seeing as this is the hometown off that guy in the White House I'd hope Mass Transit has its head on straight. This stuff is always related. We are a huge target.

off topic: Hey enjoy your rdo's thanks again for last night. Nice move, the rest of us were just so happy with your power choices. Should they stay or should they go Lol. What goes around comes around, and your kind of a joke. As they say you bought these dogs,Enjoy... Be safe everyone

"Prosecutors say a Highland Park teen inhaled computer dust cleaner immediately before she allegedly drove onto a sidewalk and plowed into a family on Labor Day, killing a 5-year-old girl."

"Carly Rousso, 18, has been charged with one count of reckless homicide and four counts of aggravated driving under the influence of an intoxicating compound in connection with the crash, the Lake County State's Attorney's office announced today.

"She faces a maximum of 26 years in prison if convicted of all the charges, said Assistant State’s Attorney Ken LaRue.

"Rousso surrendered this morning in an appearance before Lake County Circuit Court Judge Raymond Collins, who set her bail at $500,000, according to the news release. She was being booked into the Lake County Jail this afternoon..."

"Heard an info report that was read to us in roll call which stated one of the CeaseFire scamming thugs who is getting paid $3K/mo. by our wonderful city...is involved in narcotics sales in area of Lawrence/Sheridan where there is territory dispute, and in company of the suspected offender in 2 separate shooting incidents.

"Outrageous how this hack mayor and his cronies approved spending the city's money on these gang banging thugs who are now getting subsidized by the government to sell dope and degrade communities even further."

--9/12/2012 10:42:00 AM

There it is.

Oh -- since this CeaseFire "interrupter" is on the public payroll, surely we are entitled to a FULL NAME?

Anonymous said...You missed Byrnes best quote. He attributed the aggressive policing to "young officers". Meaning you old timers dont do shit. He kind of let the cat out of the bag with the departments thinking of get rid of the old timers.

9/12/2012 12:11:00 AM

Hardly. Byrne was implying that the "young officers" don't have the smarts to defuse a situation without using deadly force.

"Crime jumped once they tore down the projects. They scattered those savages throughout the city, whereas they competed with the other residents for a piece of the drug trade."

--9/12/2012 07:58:00 AM

There it is. Also half-assed "lock up the leaders for headlines" initiatives splintered the gangs and now the shorties are bangin each other and anyone else...didn't read the box. "BE CAREFUL! RANGE 1 1/2 MILES!"

...and the suburban chiefs are banding together as the heroin shows up farther and farther out...

Didn't some small "militia" somewhere just get classified as a "terrorist organization" which greatly increased sanctions available for dealing with it? Not the first time someone asked "Why is this not applied to huge organized street gangs?"

...like people with the affiliation tattooed right across their forehead. Big mystery?

There was a wave of "auto title loan" places too, that moved through in like a couple of years and are now gone. There was one right in the middle of Foster/Central/NW Hwy intersection, bright yellow awnings lit up from the inside, it probably caused accidents. "Payday loan," cockroach businesses.

1. Breakdown of the family unit due to welfare. Kids run wild at an early age.

2. Gangs popping up to replace the family unit for many kids.

3. Dope being so prevalent (and guns to cause you can't ban something and my magic it just disappears from the streets. Call supply and demand. This kind of goes back to Al Capone, you know, that Chicago guy.

4. Stupid gun laws that keep good people from defending themselves (and open the door for bad guys to use them!)

The problem is that Li'l Tommy is so far removed from the reality of policing that he believes that shit. He's allowed his precious Detective Bureau to be decimated, not even able to make the time tested argument that THE MORE CRIMINALS ARRESTED, THE LESS FUTURE CRIME THERE'LL BE! Hence, low clearance rates = more crime.

I'm in Patrol, but if you think we have it bad, look at the dicks - absolutely overwhelmed with work.

Hey goof do you know how much overtime those dicks are making? I would love to be overwhelmed making all that easy money!!!

Anonymous said...the ctu strike has taken all the media attention away from the shootings--- more interesting is a breaking news story that rahm is looking at closing between 80 and 120 schools on the south and west sides after the strike is over--- he wants more charter schools--- the manpower shortage on the cpd is shameful and directly correlates with more armed offenders challenging police...

9/12/2012 07:42:00 AM

Well, I heard Brizard and the rest of the administrators are going to donate their raises (that they voted for themselves) for the next 3 years to 'the children.' It's all for the children.

I said it on a previous post, why these coppers who work the southside and west side get out of their cars to make contact with these thugs is beyond me. The city and county asa are looking for a copper to charge for a unjustifiable homicide! Just answer your radio assignments, scratch out a report, and drive by and wave at everything else. Put yourself in a position where you have to pull that trigger and you will see how fast you start looking, feeling , and being treated as a offender by this city and county.

9/12/2012 09:37:00 AM

Over 21 years on the job here and I have a bit of an issue with this. I could care less if you hate this shitty backwater city and it's alleged leaders. Do your fuckin' job! Have a bit of pride when you put on those blues. You want to watch movies all night? Fine, but I better see your ass come when the shit hits the fan. If not, I will find you and beat you like the cock suckin' piece of shit you are. I care less what you think of me and the others that go out every day and do what needs to be done. Sit your dog ass in the hole with the rest of the whining cry babies. Your ass better be there when a copper needs help. I fucking hate this new guy, whining bullshit attitude! Jagoffs like you make this job shitty, not the bosses!

Phil Collins - 011th District 1st watch. Come get some if you have some balls ya' pussy.

I came on in 1970 when the Police had control of the BEAST and we were backed by the Department and MOST of the higher ups. Where it changed I am totaly lost for an answer. Your post should be on the front page of the SCUM TIMES for all to read. Peace Brother.

9/12/2012 10:12:00 AM

when the 'higher ups' figured out that they could buy votes, and breed future voters, with taxpayer money.

15 shot in the last 24 hours1 each in 005, 006, 015, 019, 024, 0252 in 0043 in 0074 in 009

9/12/2012 12:21:00 AM

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The cylinders on the guns go round and round....all threw this town.

The bullets in the guns go clack clack clack... All through chitroitAnd the bodies on the corner go plop plop plop. All through chitroit. Garry driving the bus says crime is down crime is down all through the city.

Off topic: My Wife is on the Executive Board for the CTU and just received news that marching striker's vehicles are being vandalized! Please get this message out to anyone concerned .You know that Rahm does not give a Rat's ass about anyone but himself!The "Media" won't print these Facts! They are in his "pocket".

Sgt Howard, good guy that he is and who I believe got fucked over by the ASA office, testified that he hit a handcuffed guy who was "about to spit" on him. He should have gotten disciplined, but not charged. But I don't think he should be used as an example of anything, good or bad. Except as an example of YOU ARE ALWAYS ON CAMERA.

Take a look at that link from capitolfax.com if you want to see how the media is spinning the Teacher wage story.

The link is comparing several different sources some are comparing average wages to median wages. Others are comparing avg. mean wages to avgs.

These people are not comparing Apples to Apples. They're hoping to slip one in pass people. Average wages and average median wages are not the same thing. Oh but they both have the word average in so for the open mouth breathers they'll just buy it all hah-haha.

He also points out that the often quoted 16% raise that's been proposed doesn't apply to all the teachers because there's a sliding scale depending on the number of years experience.

It's a good read. It'll open your eyes if you think that you're getting the straight dope from the main stream media.

Off topic, but we need to pay attention to our fellow union workers who may need our help/support in there strike situation, we are next in line with our contract. I know we are divided with management officers who can't walk straight, since there so far up managements ass, but we have been taught a lesson in unity and standing up to rahm. Where's our union in organizing support for teachers???

Blame Daley,J-CowardMc Shithead, Ipra, IAD and last but not least Rahm "Not-man-y'all." They gave the keys to the city to the Gangbangers and pleaded "just don't kill us all." Now they are trying to kill us all. The teachers union makes MIkey look like an dipered amature,they know what a backdoor layoff is and resist to be evaluated on if "boo boo the fool" passes a test or not. Learn from this, you idiots on Washington street who let it's membership and the safety of the city get plundered by the above rats.GFY.

Looks like "Good Guy" Tom Bryne is trying to catch up to McJacass in the stupid comment category.

Fuck Bryne. Much like the rest of these bosses, he part of the problem, and brings nothing to the table when it comes to making the d unit a better place. The consummate yes man.

That's the problem with current CPD boss demographics. All too young to retire, therefore they must continue to be the jizz gogglers that they are. " Yes Boss" " Good idea Boss"

There's nobody left that is truly KMA that will tell Mcwifebeater that all his strategies and initiatives are bullshit. A bunch of bootlickers and ass kissers who don't deserve, or should get, our respect.

That is of course until McFuckstick leaves and all those ass kissers tell the rank and file how much of a jag he was and that they didn't agree with him and fought him on everything. They can go suck it.

This job blows.

Here here. Excellent comments. Couldn't agree with you more.

I'm glad Little Tommy B is getting outed. He has done absolutely nothing for the D unit. He just sits in the chair and collects the check and lets the FK above him and the FK below him run the show. Big pussy.

Hey goof do you know how much overtime those dicks are making? I would love to be overwhelmed making all that easy money!!!

9/12/2012 06:47:00 PM

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It's not all about the money. And it certainly isn't 'easy money.' As a det., I'm at the end of my rope. Every day is overtime. I want to spend time with my family. We have been saddled with doing the impossible.

Instead of responding with such hatred and preconceived notions, why not stop to think of the boat we ALL are in?

I'm hammered every single day. I get 10+ cases on my days off. I get process jobs 3-4 days, + court, plus having to deal with 30+ cases per week.

It's ridiculous. I don't know how much longer I can take it. I'm seriously about to crack. I don't even get to eat during the day, and I am always, always, behind. I have sgts. on my back, citizens screaming at me, and no time to deal with anything.

My stomach is constantly in knots and I am so overwhelmed and I know there is no way out of the hole.

You still stand by your statement? It's not all about the money, son. It's about health and well-being, and balance.

I think I'll sign up for the wellness thing--they can see what my blood pressure is.

Think before you speak. The world doesn't revolve around your point of view.

Phil Collins - 011th District 1st watch. Come get some if you have some balls ya' pussy.

I agree with you to a point. I do believe your coworkers will assist you when you are getting your ass handed to you but I think you are either a little crazy or selffish to be workin mids in 11 with 21 yoj. I have only a little less time than you and I know that I'm not a young buck anymore. It was a tough pill to swallow but I accepted It before I got my ass handed to me by one of these young thugs. Don't get me wrong I am in great shape for a 48yo man but not on the same level as the young thug from the south or west side. Unfortunately I advise you to swallow that same pill before your immediate and extended family is mourning your loss. This is not a knock on you just a reality check! Stay safe!

This guy Byrne shouldn't be talkin about anyone being aggressive. Never heard Anyone talk about Byrne being a Ball of Fire... Isn't he a politically-connected North Side Cop? Did he ever work the south or west side, or was he a career "Downtown Cop" ?

Maria Maher, former chief of dick's is un-retiring and taking back her old job. Flores is going up to Dep. Chief of Dicks.

This came from the hall to McC. They want someone who will get the dicks to start clearing the open cases ASAP. Both of these two have a proven record while in the "D" unit. They will not be putting up with the crying anymore.

There was talk of demoting dick's who will not produce. In a week or so a list of the bottom feeders will be sent to her and off they go back to a beat car in a S/Side district.

to the wheel gun copper who needs his sack polished--- go to cicero and ohio and ask for an old whore nicknamed "snaggletooth"--- she'll make your change purse look like it just got a carnuba wax job at the car wash for the price of a sunday paper....

Maria Maher, former chief of dick's is un-retiring and taking back her old job. Flores is going up to Dep. Chief of Dicks.

This came from the hall to McC. They want someone who will get the dicks to start clearing the open cases ASAP. Both of these two have a proven record while in the "D" unit. They will not be putting up with the crying anymore.

First of all this tom Byrne is not lil tommy byrne that is now head of streets /san..second Maria Maher was a useless political hack herself.Merit everything and a backstabber.She had lil det. experience and was made chief of Det.Don t know why she would come bak to this $h!thole since she s head of security for the judges...one phone call after another..

Citizen here - to 07:29, thank you and f you cry baby's who don't want to do your job, you act like no one else has it tough on their jobs. Some of us are trying to make a difference without crying about our problems at work. WE ALL DEAL WITH ASS HOLES AND HYPOCRISY ON OUR DIFFERENT JOBS. I am totally pro police and feel you are under valued, but that is no reason to not do what you are paid to. What if you needed help and your fellow police just drove by and waved, think it won't happen to you? You think Phil Collins needs to chill well I think you need to grow a pair, and as a citizen I say to you go back to Shaumburg, our city doesnt take care of its own, but you are just as slimy when you won't protect us because you scared to shoot that gun due to back lash. Now put the bullet back in your pocket Barney Fife...

Maria Maher, former chief of dick's is un-retiring and taking back her old job. Flores is going up to Dep. Chief of Dicks.

This came from the hall to McC. They want someone who will get the dicks to start clearing the open cases ASAP. Both of these two have a proven record while in the "D" unit. They will not be putting up with the crying anymore.

There was talk of demoting dick's who will not produce. In a week or so a list of the bottom feeders will be sent to her and off they go back to a beat car in a S/Side district.

It's not all about the money. And it certainly isn't 'easy money.' As a det., I'm at the end of my rope. Every day is overtime. I want to spend time with my family. We have been saddled with doing the impossible.

Instead of responding with such hatred and preconceived notions, why not stop to think of the boat we ALL are in?

I'm hammered every single day. I get 10+ cases on my days off. I get process jobs 3-4 days, + court, plus having to deal with 30+ cases per week.

It's ridiculous. I don't know how much longer I can take it. I'm seriously about to crack. I don't even get to eat during the day, and I am always, always, behind. I have sgts. on my back, citizens screaming at me, and no time to deal with anything.

My stomach is constantly in knots and I am so overwhelmed and I know there is no way out of the hole.

You still stand by your statement? It's not all about the money, son. It's about health and well-being, and balance.

I think I'll sign up for the wellness thing--they can see what my blood pressure is.

Think before you speak. The world doesn't revolve around your point of view.

9/12/2012 11:15:00 PM

You're kind of making me glad I've been sitting on the list for 8 years with a number under 270. The money would be nice but I sometimes wonder if it's worth it. Apparently it isn't.

Over 21 years on the job here and I have a bit of an issue with this. I could care less if you hate this shitty backwater city and it's alleged leaders. Do your fuckin' job! Have a bit of pride when you put on those blues. You want to watch movies all night? Fine, but I better see your ass come when the shit hits the fan. If not, I will find you and beat you like the cock suckin' piece of shit you are. I care less what you think of me and the others that go out every day and do what needs to be done. Sit your dog ass in the hole with the rest of the whining cry babies. Your ass better be there when a copper needs help. I fucking hate this new guy, whining bullshit attitude! Jagoffs like you make this job shitty, not the bosses!

Phil Collins - 011th District 1st watch. Come get some if you have some balls ya' pussy.

Assuming this is a legit post and not some jag bag trying to start sh**, Keep up the good work Officer.

Am I crazy or is it that you hardly ever see anyone say anything like this on here? Why is the prevailing thought to 'take it easy' or 'put the blinders on'?

Not the biggest fan of my Superiors but what does that have to do with being proactive and doing your job? What happened to work ethic?

"...Why do the cops on the south and west side get out of the car to make contact with these people?...

If this isn't done, you have the the bad guys feeling like they are empowered and can do whatever they want. Look at Lakeview. The bad guys run roughshod over that area with very little opposition. They are now taking that attitutde to the north side "homeland" as recent events have show.

Stop the bad guys. Engage them. Make them uncomfortable. Make them feel unwelcome. Make them feel like the shit that they are.

"Am I crazy or is it that you hardly ever see anyone say anything like this on here? Why is the prevailing thought to 'take it easy' or 'put the blinders on'?

Not the biggest fan of my Superiors but what does that have to do with being proactive and doing your job? What happened to work ethic?

9/13/2012 02:07:00 PM"

While we're @ it, what ever happened to lead by example?

There was a time you got called in the WC's office& you were asked what happened,nowadays it's what did you do? Commonsense& decency has been replaced by incompetence, malfeasance & stupidity.So you know what you can do w/ you work ethic,Champ...

I said it on a previous post, why these coppers who work the southside and west side get out of their cars to make contact with these thugs is beyond me. The city and county asa are looking for a copper to charge for a unjustifiable homicide! Just answer your radio assignments, scratch out a report, and drive by and wave at everything else. Put yourself in a position where you have to pull that trigger and you will see how fast you start looking, feeling , and being treated as a offender by this city and county.

9/12/2012 09:37:00 AM

Do your job. Not stopping these goofs is what emboldens them. It's a matter of public and officer safety. The guy you stop today MAY stop before trying to shoot a policemen. Not doing anything assures he won't.

Remember when a commander had at least a gold star and a gold bar or two on his coat slave. He didn't have to worry about drinking the coolaid or toeing the company line. He could quit at any moment.Now Hilliard comes alongside, starts promoting kids on the job to exempts and boom you have an entire exempt staff by the Scott hairs for the next 15 years or more.Genius.