Emma Way Court Update Liveish

just read the bbc report, WTF is the prosector on about!!! FFS a routine hit and run, just one of those F***ing things!!!!!! I am even more pissed off that the bloke who is meant to argue she should be punished obviously doesn’t give a ****

Must be knocking on 30 years back now,we had a motorist on the wrong side of the road who had a head on with a motorbike.
He was killed and the motorist was freed as “she had suffered enough with the guilt”.
So today is nothing new.

On reading the BBC report it sounds like his word versus hers on whether she came across the road and hit him or he came across the road and hit her. Given cars and bikes take slightly different lines through tight bends I can see the two parties holding different views. I doubt you’d ever prove which version was correct.
In that situation, there is doubt and the benefit goes does it not with the defence.

She appear to have been done for what was provable, not what she may well have done. But that’s how the law works in a fair society.

My own views on what I think she did and what she should be made to do are worthless (though they do involve her being “encouraged” to ride round London passing road safety leaflets to HGV / bus drivers – apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan).

Can we put away pitchforks? I’m the last to excuse drivers hitting cyclists, but looking at the twitter stream it seems it was one person’s word against another’s and the magistrates were obliged to use reasonable doubt. I’m not sure an awful lot has gone wrong in that courtroom.

As mentioned above, it has halted her career, which is a more severe sanction than most people get. If only she was intelligent enough to understand that the tweet isn’t the important bit.

but looking at the twitter stream it seems it was one person’s word against another’s

2:1 there was atleast one other cyclist present, dunno whether they are discounted as not independent.

As mentioned above, it has halted her career

and seemingly gotten her a tv deal so not a total loss for her.

If she’d said sorry yeah I agree put the pitchforks away and let’s start looking at the legal system which appears to be broken, as it is tweeting about it still seems to be what she is sorry for and presumably she still thinks it’s the cyclists fault, bit annoying that.

…Can we put away pitchforks? I’m the last to excuse drivers hitting cyclists, but looking at the twitter stream it seems it was one person’s word against another’s and the magistrates were obliged to use reasonable doubt. I’m not sure an awful lot has gone wrong in that courtroom.

My thoughts exactly.

There was no proof either way, so there was no way she was going to found guilty.

I don’t believe the other cyclist saw the collision. To be honest from all I read about this before I was only ever expecting her to be convicted for failure to stop, so we should be grateful that the system is at least working properly this time.

If only she was intelligent enough to understand that the tweet isn’t the important bit.

+1

Not at all condoning her actions but I can’t help but feel if she had the intelligence to put her hands up and admit she was in the wrong from the outset, and acknowledge she should have stopped, then the subsequent media storm could have been averted. But then I suppose that would mean her admitting guilt, and she dimly thinks she has done no wrong.

Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier. I have right of way – he doesn’t even pay road tax! #Bloodycyclists.

That’s entirely consistent with someone who thought they were on the correct side of the road. No less stupid, but what if she is correct? The only person I have heard say she wasn’t on her side is the cyclist she hit or perhaps hit her. If he had crossed the centre as he went into the corner would you look at the event differently? (clearly she should have stopped in any case).

“I have right of way” might mean “I was on my side what was he doing on the side where I have right of way?”.
Only you’d never get that on a tweet.

That’s entirely consistent with someone who thought they were on the correct side of the road

hmm sounds to me like someone who believes cyclists shouldn’t be on the road at all. Haven’t read her stating he was on the wrong side of the road, (but her tweet kinda has me disinclined to believe her anyway) if he was then yes that changes things.

DONK – as I understand it in court she claimed to be on the correct side of the road, they collided, ergo she is effectively claiming he was on the wrong side of the road.
One on one as the other cyclist would not have been in a position to see properly, so it is a possibility.
The cyclist hit of course has a somewhat different view.