yes if you are a convicted scammer, i dont think you have any business trying to be the face of bitcoins. Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole.

those willing to defend a scammer are just as bad as the scammer themselves. if you refuse to see that, then thats on you.

I am not coming to the defense of SA, but the only way to get trolled is to let yourself be trolled. Several of the goons have resorted to trolling (Yes, some of them are just trolls.) as a last resort, after participating in the community here and seeing that fraudulence and unprofessionalism occurs, most of the time without ramification. What most of them have to say is based on real concern and should be taken into consideration (in silence, you don't have to press reply!) and meditated on, EVEN IF THEY ARE JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE TO TROLL YOU.

Do your own due diligence before entering into ANY sort of obligation, not just financial contracts. Acting in this accord is not only beneficial to us as a Bitcoin community, it is beneficial to yourself as a human being, businessperson, or whatever. Be aware, be constantly vigilant!

yes if you are a convicted scammer, i dont think you have any business trying to be the face of bitcoins.

those willing to defend a scammer are just as bad as the scammer themselves.

nobody is defending him ... SA is not a "jury" I hate to inform you. Let him have his day in court and leave it at that instead we have children coming on this board posting the same crap over and over how is a "fucking scammer" blah,blah

yeah, b/c its just mortgage fraud.....who the fuck cares about that right? he scammed 74 people according to the judgement. 74.

but thats ok b/c he didnt use btc?

a scammer is a scammer no matter what currency you are using at the time.

Nobody is saying its ok but you are proving my point . I guess nobody can have a late payment on a credit card ( that is money ) , been sent to jail before , been cited with several parketing tickets and deal with bitcoins? You have to have a clean record in order to use bitcoins because SA says so are you are labeled.

Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole.

If a thief finds a new calling in life where they can help people, instead of continuing to hurt them like they used to, and you take that away from them, the ONLY thing you will accomplish is making that thief desperate enough to return to hurting others. If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

Off topic, but, was just following the SA thread and saw something interesting, decided this was the best way to get a message back over there, without paying $10.

@goons looking at Bitcoins for Charity, check again. There's an easter egg somewhere there, too. (Also, a disclaimer, we are not a charity and do not accept Bitcoins or cash on behalf of anyone. We only list charities that accept Bitcoins on their own behalf. What Devian666 did is exactly what we do.)

Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole.

If a thief finds a new calling in life where they can help people, instead of continuing to hurt them like they used to, and you take that away from them, the ONLY thing you will accomplish is making that thief desperate enough to return to hurting others. If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

Uhh, yes. Bruce Wagner will only be a sleezy, law-breaking mortgage bitcoin scammer because he found a new calling, but then decided after being harassed on the internet it's time to rape and pillage. Yes. Yes, you're right. Bruce is a wonderful man turned bad by hell-borne internetspeak. God save his soul. Maybe you should donate a few BTC to help him on his righteous way?

Please give me your money, because I am a shameless libertarian elite who deserves your money more than you do: 9Hkao8U82WWDp6SQGn4k7ad9gT1LWeL5s3

If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

An interview show that's constantly hyping dodgy shit like mybitcoin turns out to not be so harmless to a lot of people. I agree with you that if all that happened was that he hosted a show and everyone who cared was well-informed about his shaky past, then nobody would trust a word that he said and he'd be harmless. But in order for everyone to know that, you have to stop pretending that he doesn't deserve the bad public image he's getting, or you're part of the problem.

Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

Hosting a harmless show sure kept the Bakkers and Peter Popoff out of trouble! Oh wait...

And honestly, a lot of us want Bruce's show back, scammer or not. It's just not the same with him gone! Who else will tell us that Bitcoins are going up up up when MtG:OX tells us to invest in the Power 9?