Fox News states that four weapons have been recovered. They cite the shooter as having a .223 rifle, which is what the M16, M4 and AR-15 takes. A parent talking said his child described hearing "falling cans."

I know that eventually this will proabbly degrade into a shouting match about gun control in general. But before that happens I got to wonder. It's one thing to have a huge arsenal, assault rifles, ammo, and magazines that can hold ungodly amounts of ammunition.

What happens inside a persons mind or soul that makes going into an elementary school and using ANY level of fire power on kids sound like anything close to something to do? How the Hell does this end up sounding like anything other then an atrocity in the mind of the shooter? It's one thing to have a gun, or any weapon, and using it in self defense or comision of a crime against other ARMED persons.

I don't think any sane person will ever be capable of answering that question. Whatever it is that drives their insanity, the immediate availability of guns enables them, and 'semi-'automatic weapons take the death toll to the max - not much mass-murdering going on with slow to operate hunting rifles.

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I don't think any sane person will ever be capable of answering that question. Whatever it is that drives their insanity, the immediate availability of guns enables them, and 'semi-'automatic weapons take the death toll to the max - not much mass-murdering going on with slow to operate hunting rifles.

Speaking of craziness - notice how the south is considerably more gun violent?

it happened in connecticut, not the south.

yeah, i don't think you can answer that question. clearly, the guy was insane, no sane person would do that. we will always have crazies in our society. stricter punishment clearly wouldn't help in this case.

I don't think any sane person will ever be capable of answering that question. Whatever it is that drives their insanity, the immediate availability of guns enables them, and 'semi-'automatic weapons take the death toll to the max - not much mass-murdering going on with slow to operate hunting rifles.

Speaking of craziness - notice how the south is considerably more gun violent?

it happened in connecticut, not the south.

yeah, i don't think you can answer that question. clearly, the guy was insane, no sane person would do that. we will always have crazies in our society. stricter punishment clearly wouldn't help in this case.

I don't think any sane person will ever be capable of answering that question. Whatever it is that drives their insanity, the immediate availability of guns enables them, and 'semi-'automatic weapons take the death toll to the max - not much mass-murdering going on with slow to operate hunting rifles.

Speaking of craziness - notice how the south is considerably more gun violent?

I'm going to avoid the gun debate on this as that's going to be handled by so many people over the next several days. I don't exactly disagree with the idea of banning civilian ownership of assault weapons or high cap. magazines myself. though I worry about the idea of a day when we end up needing our own western spring in Europe and the US.

Speaking of craziness - notice how the south is considerably more gun violent?

this happened in connecticut, which leans closer to gun control than gun rights. the movie theatre massacre happened in colorado, which is also in the same boat.

when was the last massacre in florida, utah, vermont, or alaska (states with the most pro-gun rights)? the worst you'll probably find is the 1986 miami shootout when 2 serial bank robbers went toe to toe with the FBI and lost. everything else is at best, general violence.

a lot of the stats from these studies don't add up. a basic public records request will show you that FL CCW holders commit less crime than your average police officer.

the mass shootings list is funny. it excludes a lot of asian and middle east massacres.

it also focuses only on mass shootings, as if stopping all shootings will magically stop all mass violence... because no one in history has ever used home-made explosives in the oklahoma city, atlanta, madrid, asia or the middle east. bombings happen in the middle east so often now that US news has stopped reporting most of them because those death tolls don't even get pageviews.

even as US gun laws have softened since the 1990s assault weapons ban expired, crime has continued to fall.

I'd rather punish crazy people than have my freedoms infringed upon. I wonder what the repercussions of this are.

Wait, what? Punish crazy people? For what? What about their rights to freedom-non-infringement? I don't think I'm getting the point your making right now...

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