What I want is party chat back. I have my .... set to "friends only" and even with that, the MS default game chat channel is horrible. Can't hear .... most of the time and this with headphones and independent volume controls. With party chat I could hear my friends fine... Now I understand why they took it out for game modes like S&D, et al because it was all too easy to give tips to friends after you'd died... but for games like plain vanilla Team Death Match with your unlimited respawns every 2 seconds I really don't see why it's such a big deal. And if they can implement it with a sledgehammer is it not possible to implement it with a scalpel? Say you're in party chat with 6 people, another friend signs on and ends up on the opposite team (again in TDM) if the other friend ends up in your lobby on the opposite team just have the thing mute him automatically until the match ends.

....ing IW, you know I love them and I loathe them at the same time. They took a great game (COD4) and found little ways to .... with it and now we get this MW2. I like the game and I WANT to like the game a lot more but it's soooooooooooo ....ing frustrating with this laggy ass bull...., the ....ing hit detection that's gone South like a duck in winter and the match making that's just horrendous.

You ever been on the IW forums? It's fanboi central (to be expected I guess) but jesus h finger banging christ, if you so much as *suggest* that IW change anything at all you're flamed into oblivion. And I really think that IW drank their own kool-aid with this ...., seriously, they had 2 ....ing years to develop the game and we get a recycled COD2 map in the default map pack? We get host migration finally and so far as I can tell it works pretty well, but for ....s sake, still no accurate host/location/ping match ups???? They take out party chat for damn near every game type???

Sorry, rant over, no I won't stop playing and no I won't stop bitching about the little things in the game that piss me the .... off, but thanks for asking.

I've been reading everywere that the game is extremely short, godamnit, MW was short but ppl have been saying that this one is even shorter... godamn Infinity Ward for that, probably I'll buy it today anyway, I want to play.

I've been reading everywere that the game is extremely short, godamnit, MW was short but ppl have been saying that this one is even shorter... godamn Infinity Ward for that, probably I'll buy it today anyway, I want to play.

Dude it epic as ..... You won't be disapointed if you enjoy a good storyline. Just in case this will ruin it for anybody what made it really cool for me was that

someone invades the United States and Washington D.C. becomes a battleground.

Scar, they play because mommy n' daddy need a cheap babysitter... better to let them spend their time showing off their uber l33t skillZ and running their mouths constantly than to, you know, actually spend some quality time RAISING them and teaching them not to be total ....wads.

Well let me ask this then, is it any different if the parent plays WITH their kid? My friend has a son and wife and all three of them (and the rest of us in our little clan) play together. COD4 and now MW2, nightly. If my friends' sons grades slip, he can't play. If he gets out of line online he can't play. Otherwise he's on there damn near everyday, along with mom and dad. Yes mom actually plays COD4 & MW2. Granted he's 16 (not the games required 18) but his little brother (age 12) also plays as well, again with the same rules applied.

I think I get where you're coming from, my comment was in that vain and was aimed at any parent that just plops their kid in front of the tv (or game) and walks away is ...., that I agree with completely. But when I see my friend and his family (and extended family) playing nightly, and the way his kids act in and out of the game, I can't help but envy him. His kids are well mannered, they do good in school, they get out and exercise and they find time to game and hold it all together. That to me is pretty damned cool. Now I realize that that's probably a HUGE exception to the rule, but it's still good to see that not all youngsters are zeros on the fast track to nowhere and not all parents who let their kids game (or at least game WITH THEM) are negligent.

Was busting out the wesleys earlier and popping some *serious* cross map face busters much to the anger of the other team.

Also caught a small clan of javellin users with their proverbial pants down (mid shot) and mauled them.

And another glorious one of getting shot into last stand on a balcony (with 2 foot wall) with double magnum handguns. And then proceeding to fire through the wall (blind) and kill 3 guys in the sniper ruins on the other side.

How's it worse? On one hand you've got the parent that lets their kid play completely unattended, a game that's labled as being for 18+ y/o, acting like turds, etc. On the other you've got a kid thats playing WITH their parent, acting responsibly, playing responsibly. How's that worse? I'm talking straight up MP here, not co-op or single player. Personally, I don't know where they derive the ratings for these games. If it's for violence which I'd guess it is, how is this cartoon violence any different or worse than the .... you see on the nightly news?

Kids are exposed to far worse just reading a newspaper or browsing the web. If it's one thing all of us should know (especially with kids) is that if you try to keep them from it, you'll only drive them closer to it. Like liquor/drinking age analogy, why is it that places with a low or no drinking age have less issues with teenage and adult alcoholism? Seems to me they learned that drinking age is a stupid idea and the more kids are exposed to that sort of thing, the more they can learn to responsibly control themselves.

I for one don't think games need maturity ratings, at least as far as violent content is concerned. I think it comes down to how the kids act, in and out of the game and how they are as young adults. I don't think my friend is being irresponsible with his kids at all but again, that's just my opinion.

How's it worse? On one hand you've got the parent that lets their kid play completely unattended, a game that's labled as being for 18+ y/o, acting like turds, etc. On the other you've got a kid thats playing WITH their parent, acting responsibly, playing responsibly. How's that worse? I'm talking straight up MP here, not co-op or single player. Personally, I don't know where they derive the ratings for these games. If it's for violence which I'd guess it is, how is this cartoon violence any different or worse than the .... you see on the nightly news?

Kids are exposed to far worse just reading a newspaper or browsing the web. If it's one thing all of us should know (especially with kids) is that if you try to keep them from it, you'll only drive them closer to it. Like liquor/drinking age analogy, why is it that places with a low or no drinking age have less issues with teenage and adult alcoholism? Seems to me they learned that drinking age is a stupid idea and the more kids are exposed to that sort of thing, the more they can learn to responsibly control themselves.

I for one don't think games need maturity ratings, at least as far as violent content is concerned. I think it comes down to how the kids act, in and out of the game and how they are as young adults. I don't think my friend is being irresponsible with his kids at all but again, that's just my opinion.

Like I said, it's 18 for a reason, given the brand by people who do it for a living. It wouldn't be 18 if it didn't include content that's not suitable for kids. Gaming is adult entertainment, kids shouldn't be pissing all over it, it kills it.

What happened to Jeff? Funny how he dropped off the radar now that the entire Western world disagrees with his right wing bull.....

Scar, if you're talking about your average run of the mill tween' playing this game because they're annoying as all .... then yes, I agree, arguments aside I think they ought to be doing something else with their time (like playing in traffic).

Now if you're talking about them not being allowed to play the game solely because the game publisher slaps an 18+ sticker on it because of something you, them, or anyone for that matter deems "innappropriate for kids" then I would take issue with that and say it should be up left to the discretion of the parents first, kids second, government/game publisher last.