topic Re: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbi in Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1635740#M40771
ThanksWed, 05 Sep 2018 21:24:40 GMTOnly1was2018-09-05T21:24:40ZHow to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396594#M14929
<P>&nbsp;</P><P><U><STRONG><FONT size="5">Update to the latest firmware</FONT></STRONG></U></P><P>This has been working well with&nbsp;older firmware, but it's prudent to keep it up to date.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><OL><LI>Visit&nbsp;<A href="http://192.168.1.1/adv_index.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/adv_index.htm</A></LI><LI>Click Administration &gt; Firmware Update, then click Update All.</LI></OL><P>Orbi firmware&nbsp;2.0.0.74 is the latest&nbsp;version at the time of this writing (October 16, 2017).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><U><STRONG>Step 1: Sign in to your Orbi using&nbsp;telnet</STRONG></U></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><OL><LI>Enable Telnet&nbsp;on&nbsp;<A href="http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm</A></LI><LI>Enter the following command in Terminal on your Mac (or the command line on your Windows PC):<PRE>telnet 192.168.1.1</PRE></LI><LI>Sign in&nbsp;to the <FONT face="andale mono,times">admin</FONT> account using your Orbi administrative password.</LI></OL><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><U><STRONG>Step 2: Check your SSIDs using telnet</STRONG></U></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>After you've signed in to your Orbi using telnet, enter the following two commands and press Return after each one:</P><OL><LI><PRE>config get wl_ssid
config get wla_ssid</PRE></LI></OL><P>The output&nbsp;will be the same until you change <FONT face="andale mono,times">wla_ssid</FONT>&nbsp;in the next section. If they're already different, you can stop here. You already have separate SSIDs for your 2.4 GHz (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wl_ssid</FONT>) and 5 GHz (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wla_ssid</FONT>) networks.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><U><STRONG><FONT size="5">Step 3: Set a separate SSID for your 5 GHz network</FONT></STRONG></U></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>While you're still signed in to your Orbi using telnet:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><OL><LI>Enter the following commands and press&nbsp;Return after each one. (Replace&nbsp;<FONT face="andale mono,times">"NAME OF YOUR 5GHZ NETWORK"</FONT> with&nbsp;the actual name you want to use for the SSID of your 5 GHz network. Don't omit the quotes.)<PRE>config set wla_ssid="NAME YOUR 5GHZ NETWORK"
config commit</PRE></LI><LI>To&nbsp;confirm that the&nbsp;SSID of your 5 GHz network (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wla_ssid</FONT>) has been set correctly, and that it's different than the SSID of your 2.4 GHz network (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wl_ssid</FONT>), enter the following commands and press Return after each one:&nbsp;<PRE>config get wl_ssid
config get wla_ssid</PRE><P>The output should now be different. You now have separate SSIDs for your 2.4 GHz (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wl_ssid</FONT>) and 5 GHz <FONT face="andale mono,times">(wla_ssid</FONT>) networks.</P></LI><LI>Enter the following&nbsp;command&nbsp;and press Return:<PRE>reboot</PRE></LI></OL><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><U><STRONG>Step 4: Disable telnet</STRONG></U></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>After your Orbi&nbsp;has&nbsp;restarted, disable telnet on <A href="http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm</A></P><P><FONT size="7">_____</FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The above procedure works great for me and many others. It has been working across multiple firmware updates with no problems. My only hope is that this post gets Netgear to consider adding a simple way to change the SSID for the 5 GHz network to the GUI. This is way too complicated for folks who are non-technical, and mucking around with the Orbi using telnet can really break things if someone doesn't know what they are doing. <STRONG>Shame on Netgear for not making this a simple, editable text field in the Wireless Network configuration.</STRONG></P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:34:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396594#M14929khad2017-10-16T18:34:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396636#M14933
<P>By implementing this backdoor technique, will the router show a GUI version of separated SSID networks?</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:53:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396636#M14933DG19802017-10-16T18:53:16ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396649#M14934
<P><LI-USER uid="493318"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The <STRONG>Advanced</STRONG> GUI reflects the different SSIDs because&nbsp;it's just pulling them from the same values that are set using telnet (<FONT face="andale mono,times">wl_ssid</FONT> and <FONT face="andale mono,times">wla_ssid</FONT>).<BR /><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2017-10-16 at 11.57.15 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/20699i430815AC0DD72DCD/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="Screen Shot 2017-10-16 at 11.57.15 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2017-10-16 at 11.57.15 AM.png" /></span></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The <STRONG>Basic</STRONG> GUI only&nbsp;has a field for the one SSID, so there isn't a place to show both SSIDs.&nbsp;It appears to be displaying the value of <FONT face="andale mono,times">wl_ssid</FONT> (the 2.4 GHz network)</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:59:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396649#M14934khad2017-10-16T18:59:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396687#M14935
<P>I see.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In the event something goes wrong or, if I want to revert back to original settings, what is the procedure for that?</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 19:17:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396687#M14935DG19802017-10-16T19:17:51ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396726#M14936
<P><LI-USER uid="493318"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There isn't really a lot that can go wrong.&nbsp;The 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks&nbsp;require separate SSIDs in order to function. Netgear just doesn't&nbsp;provide a way to change them separately in&nbsp;the GUI.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>To&nbsp;use the same SSID for both networks&nbsp;(the default), set the SSID in the GUI. You'll be back exactly where you started.</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 19:38:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396726#M14936khad2017-10-16T19:38:59ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396961#M14948
<P>this is why telnet should have been disabled as to prevent users changing what is a main part and main issue of the orbi workings , you completly mis understand how the orbi works and thus basically kill its main process to get separate ssid.s</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 21:37:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396961#M14948peteytesting2017-10-16T21:37:11ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396997#M14953
<P><LI-USER uid="351052"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'll say this much more nicely than you did.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I don't misunderstand how the Orbi is <EM>supposed</EM> to work. It's <EM>designed</EM> so that devices switch seamlessly between the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks.&nbsp;The problem is that, in practice, the Orbi&nbsp;constantly dropped connections as I moved around my home.&nbsp;I was ready to&nbsp;return the whole&nbsp;thing.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The only thing that got me to keep it was enabling a separate 5 GHz network and <EM>only</EM> connecting to that. This has been a rock solid solution to my problem. Not a single dropped connection for months ever since I made the change.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Everyone's&nbsp;situation is different, but in my home, this has made the Orbi go from erractic and a piece of garbage to the most reliable&nbsp;connection I've ever&nbsp;had. Everyone's experience may be different depending on many factors such as&nbsp;the layout of their home and the devices they are connecting. (I have a couple devices that only work on 2.4 GHz, for example, and those still connect to the 2.4 GHz&nbsp;network.)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Oh, and telnet <EM>is</EM> disabled by default. That's why the first step is&nbsp;enabling it, and the last step is disabling it again.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Have a great rest of your week.</P>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 21:55:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396997#M14953khad2017-10-16T21:55:00ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397258#M14967
<P>I couldn't have phrased it better myself.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks for your help.</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 02:15:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397258#M14967DG19802017-10-17T02:15:24ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397344#M14970
<P>It's my pleasure. I&nbsp;wished it was this&nbsp;easy to find this information when I needed. I thought I'd pay it forward.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Cheers!</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 05:35:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397344#M14970khad2017-10-17T05:35:11ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397415#M14975
<P>i will ask for it to be removed in the next release as its a fool errand to do as above , this thread should also be removed as its just not helpful to the noob user who does this then complains it doesnt work right</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:44:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397415#M14975peteytesting2017-10-17T08:44:50ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397463#M14978
<P>This thread sounds to me like its configuring the Orbi to workaround deficiencies in the client? Whilst I accpet its great to do so and if the user cannot swap out the client settings/firmware then it is their only recourse but yes this is definitely something you dont want a noob to do!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Or maybe (more)&nbsp;likely its a router/satellite positioning issue. If the 5G is not penetrating as far as the 2.4 you could have a lot of roaming as you move around the house and the client is switching back and forth between bands/devices and dropping intermittently briefly. It is wifi, it is never going to be perfect! There could be other (better) ways to fix the issue</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I know as I speak from experience as I always used to use separate SSID until my last Netgear Beta test (not Orbi - I just went out and bought an Orbi becasue I was so pleased with modern wifi devices compared to previously)&nbsp; where I ended up doing a lot of work and understanding the issues involved....I now only use a single SSID around my house as it just plain works and I can use ios wifi calling everywhere with no dropouts (not possible with multiple SSID). Never will I go back to multiple SSIDs!!! I did see some of these dropout issues I mentioned above and they were down to signal and positioning of the router or extender or whatever.</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:16:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1397463#M14978martinhj2017-10-17T10:16:00ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1398198#M15004
<P>I just want to calrify that I DO NOT work for Netgear. I was lucky enough to receive a Netgear wifi product for Beta testing free of charge. Prior to the beta test I was working on I always used separate SSID for 2.4 and 5 and always had dropout problems with wifi calling on iOS etc. I had numerous problems previously&nbsp;but the device I was testing actually opened my eyes to modern wifi devices...What I was using was NOT that old but I took the plunge and bought an Orbi WITH MY OWN MONEY and I dont regret it one bit. Test a device for free and go out and spend £300 on an Orbi as a result. I was not in profit but I was certainly happy! Single SSID in my opinion is the way to go....let the AP and clients work out what to use. My home wifi network is the most solid it has ever been. I have removed powerline devices and put stuff back on the wifi....Well done Netgear!&nbsp;</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:20:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1398198#M15004martinhj2017-10-17T20:20:03ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1398249#M15007
<P>That's fantastic,&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="11260"></LI-USER>! I'm really glad that a single SSID works well for you.&nbsp;It's great that you have that option. I'm glad I also had&nbsp;the option to get things working well for me (despite having to work much harder to make it happen). <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Choice is a good thing. 👍</P>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 21:02:55 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1398249#M15007khad2017-10-17T21:02:55ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399460#M15066
<P>&nbsp;It is indeed.....my point, perhaps not clear was that I wouldnt like a noob to go down this route and do al lthis simply becasue they had poorly sited units or another issue that doing this masks their real issue and they live with a substandard wifi product by configuration not design thats all.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In my situation I bought the Orbi on the back of the single SSID roaming and coverage it gave. My house is not huge but it is trcky with lot sof strange brick walls.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Previously u ised multiple SSID and repeaters etc and only when i went to the single SSID solution (prior to Orbi - which gave me the perfect excuse to get one) could I get perfect wifi calling over iOS around my home. I rely on wifi calling having poor mobile/cell reception. Previously I had separate SSID but under those circumstances the phone wil lcling on to its wifi for dear life until it cant any more then switch to the next one in its list.....with single SSID it will start the roaming onto another AP with same name as soon as the signal drops to -70dbM and make the decision on what to do...so location can be key...I actually had issues with a repeater which meant my calls sometimes dropped in this situation because I suspect that the phone was in a zone were it was roaming backwards and forwards between the two because it could never quite decide. moving the repeater solved the issue. In all cases the repeater location was reported as ideal.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>This is just one example of issues solved by Orbi in my case. Netgear spent a lot of time making this work and it works for a lot of people but obviously not all.....then in my opinion I would say its down to either your clients or your location of the Orbi's themselves.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Of course we all get to a point where life really must go on and we cant be bothered to mess around with something that is meant to make life easier, not more difficult :-)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm glad it works and you have a solution.....if ever you get bored, or even after a few firmware updates it could be worth trying again!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Out of&nbsp; personal interest what sort of devices did you have that were dropping all the time?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 06:24:57 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399460#M15066martinhj2017-10-19T06:24:57ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399471#M15068
<P>Just run-of-the-mill Macs, iPads, and iPhones. Mostly noticed the problem on the Macs where it's&nbsp;easier to diagnose. For some reason, the Orbi would let them connect&nbsp;at 2.4 GHz even though (as evidenced by many, many months of 5 GHz-only use) they are 5 GHz capable.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm tempted to give the single SSID another go at some point, but I'm not sure my wife will let me. We both work from home, but she has more critical meetings on a daily basis. The terrible performance of the Orbi when using a single SSID&nbsp;was affecting her work.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If it's any consolation, I think the fact that this&nbsp;requires telnet (which isn't even&nbsp;included in the latest version of macOS [High Sierra]) will probably keep most&nbsp;folks from attempting it. It's kind of self-selecting in that way. If you know enough to&nbsp;install and use telnet, you&nbsp;are probably fine to try using separate SSIDs. Like I said earlier, worst case, you just use the standard GUI to set a single SSID, and you're back exactly where you started from. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>There's a&nbsp;pretty good article over at Network Computing that explains why band steering isn't&nbsp;a&nbsp;magic solution&nbsp;for all people in all cirumcstances:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="5"><STRONG><A href="https://www.networkcomputing.com/wireless-infrastructure/4-wifi-band-steering-myths/1861851560" target="_self">4 Wi-Fi Band Steering Myths</A></STRONG></FONT></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><FONT size="3"><STRONG>Band steering&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;part of&nbsp;any standard</STRONG>, so every vendor implements it differently. Band steering <STRONG>assumes coverage is roughly equal</STRONG>, but&nbsp;</FONT><SPAN>coverage is quite different on both bands in my environment. In such a situation, it's best to avoid using band steering.&nbsp;</SPAN>Perhaps most relevant in my situation, the <STRONG>steering threshold for the Orbi does not seem to be&nbsp;optimized</STRONG> for my environment. I don't know of a way to configure it. And frankly,&nbsp;I am getting along very well with my "100% 5 GHz" band steering for months now.&nbsp;<img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /></P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:00:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399471#M15068khad2017-10-19T07:00:09ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399522#M15071
<P>Thanks for the help!! Can it be that the telnet command is no longer available under Mac OS High Sierra?</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:30:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399522#M15071Bobacker2017-10-19T09:30:03ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399655#M15077
<P>Interesting article cheers!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Yes I would say that my 2.4 and 5 probably both overlap so would explain my lack of issues.....and they overlap with the Orbi whereas they didnt with my old AP and extender......so probably comes back to Orbi works for me and maybe you need an extra satellite....but that costs and makes it rather expensive so your solution would also be my solution <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>wrt to 5G devices coinnecting to 2.4G I have also noticed that sometimes but then it happens on an old laptop so the speed limitation of 2.4 over 5 is not of any concern so I never worry. but yes I have seen it happen too.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:46:37 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399655#M15077martinhj2017-10-19T14:46:37ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399779#M15093
<P><LI-USER uid="448272"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It's true. <A href="https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/79056" target="_self">Apple removed telnet from High Sierra.</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If you have Homebrew installed, you can run this command to install telnet:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>brew install telnet</PRE><P>I use Homebrew for&nbsp;other purposes, so I&nbsp;already had it installed.&nbsp;To&nbsp;install Homebrew, run this&nbsp;command (copied directly from&nbsp;the <A href="https://brew.sh" target="_self">Homebrew</A> website):</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"</PRE><P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:29:14 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399779#M15093khad2017-10-19T17:29:14ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399914#M15108
<P><SPAN>Tried this today on the RBK40 with most recent FW v2.0.0.56. All applied ok in Telnet and new SSIDs assinged ... reboot and still remains under one SSID. I know this has been tested successfully on the RBK50 but would've thought the RBK40 would also allow this chage.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Anyone else had any luck?</SPAN></P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:59:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399914#M15108shifty892017-10-19T20:59:48ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399925#M15110
<P>1. You have to look on the advanged page to see two SSIDs<BR />2. The latest is v2.0.0.74</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:05:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399925#M15110OrbiPhilip2017-10-19T21:05:17ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399932#M15111
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="425206"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>1. You have to look on the advanged page to see two SSIDs<BR />2. The latest is v2.0.0.74</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Thanks for the reply....<BR /><BR /></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Yes I can see the 2 SSIDs (Although it hasnt picked up the SSID name change for the 5ghz channel in that UI) but this is the RBK40 and not the slightly more powerful RBk50. The most updated RBK40 firmware is <SPAN>V2.0.0.56, unless v2.0.0.74 is available as a BETA for this router but doesnt seem to be.</SPAN></P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:09:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399932#M15111shifty892017-10-19T21:09:06ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399956#M15112
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="495845"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR />this is the RBK40 and not the slightly more powerful RBk50. The most updated RBK40 firmware is <SPAN>V2.0.0.56, unless v2.0.0.74 is available as a BETA for this router but doesnt seem to be.</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>My apologies, I did not notice that detai. The OP mentione 2.0.0.74, so I am unsure of if that is a requirement for this mod.</P>Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:39:52 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399956#M15112OrbiPhilip2017-10-19T21:39:52ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399961#M15113
I have been using separate SSIDs since version 1.x, so that isn’t likely to be the culprit.<BR /><BR />However, I have zero experience with the RBK40. Sorry I can’t help more with that.Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:46:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399961#M15113khad2017-10-19T21:46:18ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1400363#M15144
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="446309"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />I have been using separate SSIDs since version 1.x, so that isn’t likely to be the culprit.<BR /><BR />However, I have zero experience with the RBK40. Sorry I can’t help more with that.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>No problem and thanks for the reply, thank you also for providing us a solution to dual SSID <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For any one interested i just managed to get this to work on the RBK40 <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Essentially before running the steps to rename and assign the SSIDs in the OP run this:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Telnet to the RBK40 and run the below:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>1)config set wl_ssid="$id_set" </SPAN></P><P><SPAN>2)config set wla_ssid="$id_set"</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>3)config commit </SPAN></P><P><SPAN>4)reboot</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>From that point I applied the config and rebooted. Logged into the UI and noticed the 2.4ghz channel had changed (back to a default name) and the 5ghz had maintained my original SSID (Check the Advanced WIFI settings dashboard). Great all the devices were now on the 5ghz band. I wanted to change the 2.4ghz band from the default name, back into telnet and renamed that using the steps above in the OP:</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><UL><LI>1) Login to<SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN><A href="http://192.168.1.1/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://192.168.1.1</A></LI><LI>2) Go to<SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN><A href="http://192.168.1.1/debug.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://192.168.1.1/debug.html</A><SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN>and check "Enable Telnet"</LI><LI>3) Use a Telnet client to connect to 192.168.1.1. On macOs you can open a terminal and write "telnet 192.168.1.1"</LI><LI>4) Once telnet'd on the Orbi router, run the following commands:</LI><LI>5) config set wl_ssid="Your 2.4Ghz SSID Name"</LI><LI>6) config commit</LI><LI>7) reboot</LI></UL><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Hopefully it helps anyone else facing the same issue with the RBK40 Latest FW 2.0.0.56</SPAN></P>Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:18:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1400363#M15144shifty892017-10-20T14:18:10ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1400620#M15148
That’s great! I’m glad that did the trick for you. I am scratching my head a bit as to what exactly is different in your steps. It appears that you are using the exact same commands.<BR /><BR />If I am reading your steps correctly, it looks like you set both SSIDs the first time, rebooted the router, and then set the 2.4 GHz SSID again.<BR /><BR />Whatever the magic incantation, I’m just glad it works. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /><BR /><BR />It does work doesn’t it? Keep us posted on how it was before with a single SSID and whether or not separate ones actually improve anything for you.Fri, 20 Oct 2017 16:35:42 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1400620#M15148khad2017-10-20T16:35:42ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1402532#M15256
<P>Yes it works<img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />!&nbsp; also everything was fine speed / coverage wise but I just preffered my devices to be on 5ghz for the throughput.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Essentially yes like you said followed your steps to the letter but seemed to have to default the 2.4ghz SSID back reboot and then do it again like you mentioned, the only additonal commands i used were:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>1)config set wl_ssid="$id_set"</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>2)config set wla_ssid="$id_set"</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Happy it works now either way <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:02:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1402532#M15256shifty892017-10-22T20:02:24ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1403240#M15275
<P>Fantastic!&nbsp;That's great news. I figured if my post could help even one other person it would be worth it.&nbsp;<img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P>Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:20:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1403240#M15275khad2017-10-23T16:20:16ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424536#M15994
<P>I'm running the latest FW, V 2.0.0.74, and for some reason the "debug.htm" page won't come up.&nbsp; I've tried starting from both logged-in and logged out states, following links, entering by hand . . .nothing but a spinning symbol.&nbsp; I've left it for many minutes and no debug page.</P><P>So no ability to turn on telnet.&nbsp; Tried to telnet in anyway, and as you might expect, no can do.</P><P>Any ideas?&nbsp; It looks like this feature (debug.htm page) has been tried on this FW version and is working - just not for me :-((</P><P>I've tried both wired and wireless connections into the Router AND the Satellite with no luck.</P><P>Writing here because I'm trying to use the instructions to set up separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5GHz.</P><P>Thanks.</P>Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:08:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424536#M15994Rich_DM2017-11-14T08:08:21ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424537#M15995
<P>Are you able to&nbsp;connect to the Basic configuration page at&nbsp;<A href="http://192.168.1.1/index.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/index.htm</A> and the Advanced configuration page at&nbsp;<A href="http://192.168.1.1/adv_index.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/adv_index.htm</A> ?</P>Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:15:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424537#M15995khad2017-11-14T08:15:34ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424754#M16004
<P>Yes, both are working fine.&nbsp; Just retried, everything the same.</P><P>Later today I'll try refreshing the FW, see if that helps.</P><P>Thanks for this set of instructions, btw.&nbsp; Flexibility that should be part of the base product.</P>Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:30:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1424754#M16004Rich_DM2017-11-14T14:30:20ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1425681#M16024
<P>Still works on 2.0.0.76. Try another browser or another computer.</P>
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<P><A href="http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm" target="_blank">http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm</A></P>Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:39:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1425681#M16024st_shaw2017-11-15T00:39:13ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1426730#M16063
<P>st_shaw, changing the browser did the trick!&nbsp; Switched to IE from Firefox and was able to get the /debug.htm page to show.&nbsp; I was able to rename the 5GHz network, and got my Epson ET-3600 printer to attach to the 2.4G.&nbsp; Reinitialized a couple devices to the 5G, and so far, everything is running happily on the separated networks.</P><P>Thanks so much to both you and khad!</P>Thu, 16 Nov 2017 07:53:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1426730#M16063Rich_DM2017-11-16T07:53:49ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1426760#M16065
<P>Fantastic! Thanks for letting us know that did the trick. Have a great rest of your week. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />&nbsp;</P>Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:53:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1426760#M16065khad2017-11-16T08:53:04ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430103#M16140
<P>Can someone that has successfully followed step one of this post clarify/post a photo of what your phone looks like within the WIFI settings?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Does your phone see two different WIFI network names, one for the 2.4 GHz and one for the 5.0 GHz?&nbsp;&nbsp;And pending which one you want to use for that device, you select accordingly?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Since I did not see any instructions of entering your password, I assume you have the same password for both?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It seems like the steps that started this post separated the SSIDs but I am not clear of how your devices take advantage or see these two different SSIDs on a device like an iPhone, or if they have the same or different passwords.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Like others, I have a device that can only run on 2.4 GHz.&nbsp; I am trying to get a SSID that it can be dedicated to and this post seems to be getting me in that right direction, but not sure what I would expect to see on any device trying to connect to this modified system.&nbsp; Photos/clarity would be appreciated.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 05:14:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430103#M16140Shooter712017-11-19T05:14:47ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430107#M16142
<P><LI-USER uid="513388"></LI-USER>&nbsp;If your device is 2.4G capable only, then it will only connect to 2.4 GHz. &nbsp;There is no need to set a separate SSID. &nbsp;You would only need to do that if your device is one of the very few that cannot operate properly with systems like Orbi that broadcast the same SSID on both 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 05:24:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430107#M16142st_shaw2017-11-19T05:24:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430111#M16144
<P><LI-USER uid="513388"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In most cases,&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="381580"></LI-USER>&nbsp;is correct. You shouldn't need to have separate SSIDs because Orbi has band steering. Devices that aren't 5 GHz capable should connect automatically at&nbsp;2.4 GHz. And devices that are 5 GHz capable should connect at&nbsp;5 GHz and benefit from the&nbsp;greater bandwidth 5 GHz affords.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>However, if you want to&nbsp;set up separate SSID&nbsp;to troubleshoot an issue you're having, you can follow the steps&nbsp;in my&nbsp;original post. The steps do not change&nbsp;any passwords. Both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks&nbsp;will both use the same password you were using&nbsp;before you set separate SSIDs.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You will see both SSIDs&nbsp;in the&nbsp;list of avialable networks on your device(s).&nbsp;Make sure to "forget" the network that you don't want to connect to anymore, so the device doesn't fall back to the other SSID.&nbsp;Then connect&nbsp;to the one you&nbsp;want to use.</P>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 05:33:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430111#M16144khad2017-11-19T05:33:45ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430113#M16145
<P>Thank you Khad and st_Shaw,&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am having trouble having a 2.4 Ghz device (Green Mountain Grill) connect to my WiFi and the online instructions state that I need to connect it do only the 2.4 Ghz frequency when running&nbsp;on a dual band&nbsp;router so that is why I was trying to seperate my SSID.&nbsp; Since I was not able to get it to connect to my own WIFI, I assumed it was not smart enough to select the needed frequency.</P>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 05:41:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430113#M16145Shooter712017-11-19T05:41:26ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430114#M16146
<P><LI-USER uid="513388"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>In your case the device should connect to the Orbi at 2.4 GHz even without going through all the&nbsp;hassle to create separate SSIDs. I have a couple smart outlets that are the same, and they&nbsp;correctly connected at 2.4 GHz even before I had separate SSIDs.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Creating separate SSIDs is really a last resort (or a troubleshooting step). In my case,&nbsp;everything works better for me now, but most folks are better off&nbsp;just using band steering. It's a lot easier. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 05:45:15 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1430114#M16146khad2017-11-19T05:45:15ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1440082#M16477
<P><LI-USER uid="446309"></LI-USER>&nbsp;I did everything using telnet. Worked great. I now have one 5ghz SSID and one 2.4ghz SSID, but I also have my old SSID showing? And when I connect to 5ghz it seems to only connect to the Orbi Router. It never switches to the Sat. When I get far away from the router (and stand near the sat), the Wifi just drops dead. Other devices that still uses the old SSID (both 5 and 2.5GHz) seem to work fine and are connected to the Sat when they are near it.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Am I missing something?</P>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 21:36:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1440082#M16477qken13372017-11-27T21:36:51ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1446939#M16860
<P>I am experiencing the same issue. I've created two SSID's as the document describes. The problem is the satelite only connects at 2.4g. I was reading elsewhere that several people are complaining about this same issues (using just the single SSID).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It's nice to connect via 5g - but performance drops around the satelite.</P>Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:27:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1446939#M16860notraces2017-12-04T19:27:09ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447408#M16879
<P>Unfortunately, I'm not sure what's going on in those&nbsp;cases. I haven't seen that behavior in my own setup.&nbsp;Everything is&nbsp;working as expected here. Sorry I can't offer any solutions, but I wanted to make sure to note my data point.</P>Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:17:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447408#M16879khad2017-12-04T23:17:56ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447504#M16884
I spoke too soon. The satelite switched to 5g a few minutes after I sent the message. So far so good. Thanks!Tue, 05 Dec 2017 02:13:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447504#M16884notraces2017-12-05T02:13:45ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447508#M16885
<P>That's great news,&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="525478"></LI-USER>!&nbsp;Glad it's working well for you now. Thanks for the update. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 02:21:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447508#M16885khad2017-12-05T02:21:28ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447666#M16901
<P>I changed my 5G SSID to something else by following the procedures listed above but I had to do an extra step... I didn't&nbsp;see anyone else mention that they had to repeat the process for each of the satellites. I could be missing&nbsp;where it is mentioned but I had to repeat the process and telnet into the satellite to switch the SSID on it too. It wasn't&nbsp;an automatic change on the satellite once I changed it on the router. I verified this with the "wifi analyzer" android app and could still see the original SSID and the new one on 5G even after rebooting both router and satellite and waiting a&nbsp;few minutes. Once I manually repeated the telnet changes into the satellite I can now see the 5G being broadcast from router and satellite using the new SSID.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I updated to the latest BETA firmware today, version&nbsp;V2.0.0.76, so I am not sure if that is why I had to repeat the process but then again I could just be having a "doh!!" kind of moment and I missed where it was mentioned.</P>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:27:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1447666#M16901PeteyPablo802017-12-05T09:27:24ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1452602#M17274
<P>THANK YOU for posting this answer! It solved my problem.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN class=""><EM><STRONG>peteytesting</STRONG></EM>, you're being closed-minded to not realize that there are many scenarios in which haivng a single SSID for both networks works for everyone. Case in point: I had purchase a few WiFi power switches, and they could ONLY be set up when both the switches (which are only 2.4Ghz) and the smartphone are on the same WiFi network. Well guess what? Neither Android nor iOS devices offer the ability to specify which frequency to connect on. You pick the WiFi SSID, and that's it - so my devices were always connecting to the 5 Ghz network! I tried silly things like going out into my driveway so it would drop to the 2.4 Ghz network, but that still didn't allow me to set up the switches.</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN class="">I made the telnet change to break apart the two networks into individual SSIDs, and presto, I could set up the WiFi switches. Netgear is foolish to not allow users to configure it this way if they need it.</SPAN></P>Sun, 10 Dec 2017 03:45:07 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1452602#M17274jasondunn2017-12-10T03:45:07ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1454407#M17431
<P><LI-USER uid="141350"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That's fantastic.&nbsp;Every time someone else&nbsp;tells a story of how it helped them, I'm even happier that I posted it. Have a lovely holiday!</P>Tue, 12 Dec 2017 01:15:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1454407#M17431khad2017-12-12T01:15:47ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1459662#M17878
When I try "config get wla_ssid" I get no response. Not even a wifi name. How do I know the right current tag for "wla_ssid"?Sun, 17 Dec 2017 16:25:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1459662#M17878Chrissnn2017-12-17T16:25:51ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1465663#M18592
<P>I would also like to join and thank you for this article. I've checked the topic many-many weeks ago before i've purchased the device 4 days ago, and like the others mentioned here, it was also important for me as well, to keep the 5GHz capable devices on the 5GHz radio to keep the best performance possible all the time, while unfortunately i still have to provide connection for some 2.4 capable old devices.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Changed the 2.4GHz SSID immediately when started to configure the router and the sat and i'm extremely satisfied with the coverage and the speed and i've already dismissed my old setup what needed 4 devices for the 5GHz and 2 for the 2.4GHz connections... i've already been through having the same SSID for the two bands with my old setup and it didn't work out well and&nbsp;a fast speedtest before changing it on the Orbi have proven the same.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Now i have 2 devices instead of 6, serving the same coverage with at least double bandwidth (haven't tested LAN throughput yet, just used speedtest.net) and by now&nbsp;i could just get rid of&nbsp;all the cables and the UPSs for the old APs, but i keep them for other purposes.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Having this option was one of the main reasons (one of the others&nbsp;was the extreme performance i've read about in tons of articles) that i've decided to buy AC2200.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:36:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1465663#M18592DzS2017-12-23T13:36:35ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1465928#M18613
<P>Doing this as a first step without even trying the device as it was meant to work is a very bad idea, setting yourself up for problems with an unsupported configuration (meaning they can make changes that could affect it any time without you having any right to complain).&nbsp;</P><P>I've previously run with seperate networks but now have everything under a single SSID and everything works as it should. I get great connectivity even way down to my neighbors house so I don't have to worry when roaming devices anywhere.&nbsp;</P><P>It's great that someone found a way to do this from a personal satisfaction perspective, but it's a fools errand.</P>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 17:33:55 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1465928#M18613aaz2017-12-23T17:33:55ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466073#M18628
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="461655"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P><P>It's great that someone found a way to do this from a personal satisfaction perspective, but it's a fools errand.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>A fool's errand? Really?&nbsp;Do you understand that this telnet method is the <EM><STRONG>only</STRONG></EM> way myself and others could get our devices to work? You're making ignorant comments and ignoring reality. NetGear is&nbsp;the foolish one&nbsp;for not giving customers a way to add devices such as 2.4Ghz smart switches that can only be set up via an app running on a 5ghz capable-device that <EM><STRONG>must</STRONG></EM> be on the 2.4 Ghz network. I looked for 5ghz-based smart switches and couldn't find any.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I would prefer to not have to alter the router and leave it the way NetGear designed it, but I didn't have an option.</P>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 19:59:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466073#M18628jasondunn2017-12-23T19:59:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466270#M18652
<P>Not sure what you mean, I haven't had any problems with smart switches - even with a few very old Wemo devices and cameras.</P>Sat, 23 Dec 2017 23:00:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466270#M18652aaz2017-12-23T23:00:50ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466411#M18688
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="461655"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>Not sure what you mean, I haven't had any problems with smart switches - even with a few very old Wemo devices and cameras.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Every smart switch I've seen lately only works on the 2.4 Ghz network, and requires a device (iOS or Android) also on the same 2.4 Ghz network, to set it up via an app. In my case, the app couldn't find the smart switch because my device was on the 5Ghz network - which doesn't make much sense to me because it's the same subnet and IP address block. But it simply wouldn't finish setting up properly until I forced my phone onto the 2.4 Ghz network. I was going to return the switches and try a different brand, but I couldn't find any that supported 5 Ghz frequencies.</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 04:15:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466411#M18688jasondunn2017-12-24T04:15:11ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466415#M18691
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="141350"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />
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<P>Not sure what you mean, I haven't had any problems with smart switches - even with a few very old Wemo devices and cameras.</P>
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<P>Every smart switch I've seen lately only works on the 2.4 Ghz network, and requires a device (iOS or Android) also on the same 2.4 Ghz network, to set it up via an app. In my case, the app couldn't find the smart switch because my device was on the 5Ghz network - which doesn't make much sense to me because it's the same subnet and IP address block. But it simply wouldn't finish setting up properly until I forced my phone onto the 2.4 Ghz network. I was going to return the switches and try a different brand, but I couldn't find any that supported 5 Ghz frequencies.</P>
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<P>The only switch I've ever used is an Iris Smart Switch. For initial setup your phone connects directly to the switch&nbsp;via an ad-hoc WiFi network. &nbsp;After that, you control the switch with the app on your phone. There are no&nbsp;issues with a single SSID, the switch being on 2.4 and your phone being on 5 GHz.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 04:21:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466415#M18691st_shaw2017-12-24T04:21:28ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466416#M18692
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="381580"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The only switch I've ever used is an Iris Smart Switch. For initial setup your phone connects directly to the switch&nbsp;via an ad-hoc WiFi network. &nbsp;After that, you control the switch with the app on your phone. There are no&nbsp;issues with a single SSID, the switch being on 2.4 and your phone being on 5 GHz.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The brand I was using was Ottim and it definitely wasn't doing an ad-hoc network - you can tell because you can see the phone/tablet swtich networks. It was seeking the switch on the 2.4 Ghz network for sure. I wish the switches I bought worked the way the Iris switches do. :-)</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 04:26:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466416#M18692jasondunn2017-12-24T04:26:04ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466451#M18706
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="141350"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="381580"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The only switch I've ever used is an Iris Smart Switch. For initial setup your phone connects directly to the switch&nbsp;via an ad-hoc WiFi network. &nbsp;After that, you control the switch with the app on your phone. There are no&nbsp;issues with a single SSID, the switch being on 2.4 and your phone being on 5 GHz.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The brand I was using was Ottim and it definitely wasn't doing an ad-hoc network - you can tell because you can see the phone/tablet swtich networks. It was seeking the switch on the 2.4 Ghz network for sure. I wish the switches I bought worked the way the Iris switches do. :-)</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Pretty sure this is the one&nbsp;<A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ28vi1FXhI" target="_self">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ28vi1FXhI</A></P><P>It seems to do what all other switches do for setup, the phone app connects to the switch via 2.4 Ghz network and connects to your wifi from the setup app. Not sure why that would not work if your router has both a 2.4 and a 5 Ghz network on the same SSID, but if that is the case - it's definitly the fault of the switch and software.&nbsp;</P><P>It works seamlessly with my Wemo, old netgear camera, old dlink camera, Swann camera, Woods outdoor switch, Lutron, etc....</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 06:28:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466451#M18706aaz2017-12-24T06:28:48ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466510#M18727
<P>Of course it would be better to have this option on the web interface, but it is available via telnet, so it is supported... not for everyone... those who don’t need it, won’t change it until they get in a situation when they need it or they could buy an other product.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Still better than in some cases for other products when it is not even possible to have anything changed other way then the web interface.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For the trolls: i bought the product because i was able to change this setting and because of its other parameters it seemed suitable for my need. Like it or not, i’ve changed it, because i knew what i’m doing. I don’t really get why people keep trying to force their opinon on others just because some of us is happy with this solution... seems like it really hurts them. It is not a must, who doesn’t know what he’s doing and afraid of screwing an expensive device, should not do this, that’s all.&nbsp;</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 11:38:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466510#M18727DzS2017-12-24T11:38:54ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466578#M18737
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="461655"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR />Pretty sure this is the one&nbsp;<A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ28vi1FXhI" target="_self">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ28vi1FXhI</A></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It seems to do what all other switches do for setup, the phone app connects to the switch via 2.4 Ghz network and connects to your wifi from the setup app. Not sure why that would not work if your router has both a 2.4 and a 5 Ghz network on the same SSID, but if that is the case - it's definitly the fault of the switch and software.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Same company, same app, different product (it's a wall plug) - but the setup with my phone on the 5 Ghz band and the wall plug on the 2.4 Ghz band simply wouldn't finish. I spent an hour fighting with it but as soon as I forced my phone to the 2.4 Ghz band, the setup worked the first time. I don't dispute at all that the switch/software is at fault here - but NetGear should allow users some sort of option to work with devices like this that expect everything to be on the same band.</P>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:49:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1466578#M18737jasondunn2017-12-24T14:49:20ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1467933#M18873
<P>Interesting discussion. How does one <U>Telnet to an Orbi Satellite</U>? I haven't opened my Orbi Three-Pack yet and would like to know this before doing so.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For me it's a deal breaker not to be able to have separate 2.4ghz and 5ghz SSIDs. I like to force high demanding bandwidth devices like Apple TV, Satellite Receivers, Computers, Video cameras etc to 5ghz to use the&nbsp;240mbps internet speeds I have available that 2.4ghz can't come close too. Lesser demanding devices&nbsp;like home automation switches, smart thermostats, smart smoke alarms, lights, etc. can comfortable live at 2.4ghz. My current Netgear R7000 has the capability to combine both 2.4 and 5 into a single SSID. Tried that and found that due to the better range of 2.4, devices attach to 2.4 and&nbsp;never switch to 5ghz even when standing next to the router.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I hope Netgear is listening and adds a separate SSID&nbsp;option in a future fireware release.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 26 Dec 2017 18:32:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1467933#M18873spas2017-12-26T18:32:26ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468859#M19158
Does this method create separate SSIDs on both router and satellites? In other words, does it create 4 separate SSIDs or 2 SSIDs that work on both router and satellite?Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:39:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468859#M19158thenighthawk2017-12-27T17:39:21ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468862#M19159
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539981"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />Does this method create separate SSIDs on both router and satellites? In other words, does it create 4 separate SSIDs or 2 SSIDs that work on both router and satellite?<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Great question: I have no idea. I'd presume yes - as the satellite is essentially a repeater of the existing networks - but I can't think of how to test that theory out...&nbsp;<img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /></P>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:41:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468862#M19159jasondunn2017-12-27T17:41:25ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468871#M19160
It creates 2 unique ssids. Each device broadcast on both SSIDs. if you look at it with a wireless analyzer you will see four entries, two devices, two SSIDsWed, 27 Dec 2017 17:51:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1468871#M19160OrbiPhilip2017-12-27T17:51:18ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469006#M19176
<P>How about just giving us the ability to assign a specific MAC address to a specific primary Ghz with the other as a fallback. &nbsp; I guess this would override the algorithm internally if present. &nbsp;</P>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:13:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469006#M19176Boomerang32017-12-27T20:13:48ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469009#M19178
<P>How about just giving us the ability to assign 5Gz as primary at the MAC level. &nbsp;If we add a MAC address for IP, let us assign 5GHz as primary.</P>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:17:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469009#M19178Boomerang32017-12-27T20:17:11ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469081#M19193
So, I believe separating SSIDs should also work on RBK30 model? It's the model with the wall pluggable satellite.Wed, 27 Dec 2017 21:22:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469081#M19193thenighthawk2017-12-27T21:22:20ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469103#M19198
<P>most devices allow you to set the 5 gig connection as the primary or first connection</P>
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<P>this is why its not a great idea to change how the orbi works as in doing so you remove once of its primary features and thats band steering and ap steering , so the orbi will not be working as designed</P>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 21:31:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469103#M19198peteytesting2017-12-27T21:31:10ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469128#M19201
<P>and ... to your point, I'm experiencing that with my iPhone 6 as I type. &nbsp;It's finally picking up the 5GHz channel automatically and the speed tests reflect that.</P>Wed, 27 Dec 2017 21:41:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469128#M19201Boomerang32017-12-27T21:41:33ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469922#M19284
<P>In addition to seperating the SSID for the network, are we able to seperate the guest network SSID as well (2.4Ghz and 5Ghz guest bands)? If so how is this done?</P>Thu, 28 Dec 2017 17:09:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1469922#M19284slickman9492017-12-28T17:09:06ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1470983#M19397
<P>Does not seem to work anymore in firmware&nbsp;<SPAN>V2.1.1.12</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>This update removed my seperate named ssid bands, and there seem to be no way (yet) to correct thant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>grr..</SPAN></P>Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:01:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1470983#M19397Szerby2017-12-29T15:01:13ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1471355#M19424
I really appreciate your telnet instructions. I was trying to set up a Fitbit Aria and could never get it to hook the 2.4G while the 5G was on the same SSID. I did the SSID split, got the Aria connected and then reverted to the single SSID again as I haven’t had any of the disconnection issues others have mentioned. I like the ability to split the SSIDs and think it should be in the normal control panel - unless my GED doesn’t give me enough information to know that the Orbi really needs a single SSID for proper operation <img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" />Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:10:40 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1471355#M19424mc_nOtgear2017-12-29T20:10:40ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476174#M19857
<P>Rebooting&nbsp;your&nbsp;Orbi disables telnet.&nbsp; At least it did on mine.</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:28:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476174#M19857cmgreenman2018-01-03T15:28:05ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476187#M19858
<P>I'm curious what you consider to be working properly.&nbsp; I bought my Orbi and expected it to work as advertised.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have numerous 5Ghz capable devices from all different manuafcutrers and NONE of them are able to connect to the 5GHz band PERIOD.&nbsp; My Galaxy Note 5 won't, my wife's Galaxy S8 wont.&nbsp; My Roku Stick won't, My Roku TVs won't, My Raspberry Pi with 5ghz adapter won't, my Nexus 7 Tablet won't (shall I keep going?).&nbsp; the Orbi is SUPPOSED to move 5Ghz capable devices to the 5Ghz band but IT DOESN'T.&nbsp; That to ME is the definition of not working properly and that is using the DEFAULT configuration using the SAME SSID on both bands.&nbsp; &nbsp; Seriously, I can post a full&nbsp;screenshot of my attached devices page and point out every 5ghz capable device showing that they all connect at 2.4.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>As a result of EVERYTHING connecting on the overcrowded, slower wireless network, constantly have trouble with devices falling off the network, buffering,and general overall slowness.&nbsp; I have tried site surveys, changing channels, moving the devices closer, moving the Orbi, etc...&nbsp; nothing helps.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>CHANGING THE SSID WORKS!!!!!&nbsp; I don't care if you don't think so, the fact is it DOES work and it makes my network a lot more stable and usable.&nbsp; &nbsp;My 5Ghz devices connect at 5Ghz and roam seamlessly from router to satellite,&nbsp; My 2.4Ghz band nolonger has to stream 4K content to my Roku TVs so it's more usable.&nbsp; The fact is, this fix works and should be incorporated into the ADVANCED section of the Orbi config rather than having to workaround it using telnet.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:39:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476187#M19858cmgreenman2018-01-03T15:39:04ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476188#M19859
<P>I'm glad it works for you however I can put my phone right next to my Orbi and I still get pushed onto 2.4Ghz.&nbsp; It's not a limitation of the client firmware or a positioning issue.&nbsp; At least not in my case.&nbsp; &nbsp; Separating the SSIDs IMPROVED my network speeds and eliminated dropouts completely.&nbsp; I also use phone over wifi and since making this change, I too have perfectly stable service.</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:43:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476188#M19859cmgreenman2018-01-03T15:43:29ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476219#M19866
<P>I can see why you would have dropouts.&nbsp; I lived in a brick house when I lived in England.&nbsp; My issue was running cables though.&nbsp; Wifi hadn't really come out yet (mid 90s).&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm curious.&nbsp; When you look at your connected devices page, how many are connecting to 5ghz versus 2.4?&nbsp; In my neighborhood, 2.4Ghz is trash.&nbsp; everyone under the sun has at least 2 APs (usually router and extender) and the band is saturated.&nbsp; 5 GHz is wide open.&nbsp; I've run signal checks in various places (haven't done a heat map yet but plan to) and I get similar readings for 2.4 and 5 but everything always connects to 2.4 no matter what I do.&nbsp; For me setting separate SSIDs (an option that has always been available until buying the Orbi) fixed my issues.</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:06:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476219#M19866cmgreenman2018-01-03T16:06:59ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476752#M19926
<P><LI-USER uid="539205"></LI-USER>&nbsp; In order to telnet to your satellite you must first get it's IP address from the Attached Devices tab.&nbsp; Then do the same procedure as on the router but using the Satellite's IP address.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:06:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476752#M19926cmgreenman2018-01-03T23:06:59ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476757#M19929
<P>Anyone tried or knows the telnet commands to disable 2.4GHz completely?&nbsp; I have absolutely no use for it in my environment and would like to just disable it.</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:13:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476757#M19929JMU19982018-01-03T23:13:43ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476761#M19931
<P><LI-USER uid="539981"></LI-USER>&nbsp; Yes you end with a 2.4ghz ssid and a different 5ghz ssid on the router.&nbsp; Once you telnet to your satellites and perform the same procedure on them, they will all have the same 2.4ghz ssid and the same (but different) 5Ghz ssid as on your router.&nbsp; Scanning my network I see 2 mac addresses advertising my 2.4Gz ssid on channel 9 and 2 DIFFERENT mac addresses advertising my 5Ghz ssid on channel 48.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>BTW I hate that they have such a limited set of 5Ghz frequencies available.&nbsp; I tend to use 149 a lot as that is the only 5Ghz channel my phone will use for it's hotspot.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:16:37 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476761#M19931cmgreenman2018-01-03T23:16:37ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476810#M19935
<P>Why would one want to telnet the satellite?&nbsp; What am I missing here?&nbsp;</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:48:14 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476810#M19935thenighthawk2018-01-03T23:48:14ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476822#M19936
<P><LI-USER uid="544879"></LI-USER></P><P>Thanks. So, if I telet satellite and separate SSIDs then I end up with 4 SSIDs? That's the reason why I returned Amplifi HD because when I separated SSIDs on Amplifi HD, I ended up with 4 SSIDs (two from router and two from satellite).&nbsp; My Orbi is arriving on Friday and would really like to know this prior to unboxing it.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:58:14 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476822#M19936thenighthawk2018-01-03T23:58:14ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476845#M19940
<P>Just follow the&nbsp;instructions in my original post. You'll end up with&nbsp;one 5 GHz SSID that&nbsp;works across both router and satellite and another SSID for the 2.4 GHz network that works across both router and satellite.</P>Thu, 04 Jan 2018 00:23:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1476845#M19940khad2018-01-04T00:23:34ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1477340#M20001
<P>So once the SSID's/bands are separated, whichever is joined will never automatically switch over, for example in case the 2G signal is stronger than the 5G signal? So this effectively disables band steering but maintains seamless automatic handoff between router and satellites?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Is there a solution when you want only a few clients to always stick to a particular band/SSID? (but allow the others to switch according to how the system normally works)</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks.</P>Thu, 04 Jan 2018 14:14:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1477340#M20001joshuaad2018-01-04T14:14:53ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1477576#M20034
<P>Thanks <A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/544879" target="_blank">cmgreenman</A> for the tip. I came across a free (limited functioning) wifi analysis tool for MAC/Windows called NETSPOT, It’s great for detecting WiFi networks and contains with helpful information, e.g. signal strength, SSIDs, MAC addresses, etc. Attached is a screen shot from my network scan this morning. I hope you’ll find this helpful.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Included in the screen shot are:&nbsp;</P><P>My existing R700 router with 3 SSIDs:<BR />&nbsp;1) 5ghz – NETGEAR695,<BR />&nbsp;2) 2.4ghz – NETGEAR69, and<BR />&nbsp;3) Guest Network – NETGEAR69-Guest and</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>A recently installed ORBI with 2 Satellites&nbsp;- after splitting the SSIDs:<BR />&nbsp;1) 5ghz – APN2 and<BR />&nbsp;2) 2.4ghz – APN.</P><P>Please pay no attention to the other clutter.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The screen shot is from a Macbook Pro sitting next to both routers. The graph is showing the 5ghz (APN2) network S/N Ratio.</P><P>The ORBI Router’s MAC address is 80:02:8e:96:BF:11 (static MAC address on the bottom label). After splitting the SSIDS, the ORBI is apparently changing the 8th Octet to define the different frequency bands, keeping the 1st through 7th Octets the same. The 8th Octet defines the 2.4 and 5ghz bands/node.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>ORBI Router</P><P>APN = 2.4ghz -&nbsp;80:02:8E:96:BF:11 (static)</P><P>APN2 = 5ghz -&nbsp;&nbsp;<SPAN>80:02:8E:96:BF:13</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>Satellite #1</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>APN = 2.4ghz -&nbsp;80:02:8E:9C:64:29 (static)</SPAN></P><P>APN2 = 5ghz -&nbsp;&nbsp;<SPAN>80:02:8E:9C:64:2B</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>Satellite #2</SPAN></P><P><SPAN>APN = 2.4ghz -&nbsp;80:02:8E:9C:02:4F&nbsp;(static)</SPAN></P><P>APN2 = 5ghz -&nbsp;&nbsp;<SPAN>80:02:8E:9C:02:51</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Great thread…</P>Thu, 04 Jan 2018 16:34:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1477576#M20034spas2018-01-04T16:34:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481767#M20643
<P><LI-USER uid="446309"></LI-USER></P><P>I got my Orbi RBK30 tonight and just finished setting it up.&nbsp; The setup was a breeze.&nbsp; The only issue I ran into was updating firmware.&nbsp; I had to manually update firmware because the online feature wouldn't detect any new firmware.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>After separating SSIDs as mentioned by&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="446309"></LI-USER>&nbsp;in his original post, everything's working great.&nbsp; See the attached screenshot.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next challenge now is how do I configure my 5GHz SSID to use "wifi-AC" only and for 2.4GHz SSID to use "wifi-n" only?&nbsp; &nbsp;Can anybody offer some assistance with this?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks a lot in advance.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="2018-01-09_1-32-37.png" style="width: 999px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23169iF7309B46D99A7B77/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="2018-01-09_1-32-37.png" alt="2018-01-09_1-32-37.png" /></span></P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 06:48:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481767#M20643thenighthawk2018-01-09T06:48:34ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481805#M20645
<P>So I am trying to understand why people would want to do this? Out of the 24 devices on my network 10 are connected to 5 Ghz band and 14 that are better on 2.4 are on the 2.4.</P><P>I don't have any dropout. Everything is working including roaming.&nbsp; Isn't the point of having a device like this so you don't have to micro manage your network and worry about small details. Not understanding the need to seperate out the bands. I am on firmware 2.1.2.16 so that may have something to do with it, but the point is this is working as it should. I don't see any problem.</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 08:32:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481805#M20645aaz2018-01-09T08:32:08ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481808#M20646
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539981"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>&nbsp;</P>@..<P>&nbsp;</P><P>The next challenge now is how do I configure my 5GHz SSID to use "wifi-AC" only and for 2.4GHz SSID to use "wifi-n" only?&nbsp; &nbsp;..</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Do you think by doing this that you will increase the speed of your devices, or what is the purpose? Why?&nbsp;</P><P>I think doing something like this just sets you up down the line for a whacky time when you start having issues.</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 08:37:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481808#M20646aaz2018-01-09T08:37:49ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481993#M20656
Awesome. I'm glad you don't have any problems. I have 28 devices connected of which slightly under half are 5fhz capable but every single device was getting steered to 2.4 GHz. Ever try to stream 4k on 2 devices over 2.4 GHz? Doesn't work well.<BR /><BR />Splitting the SSID put me in control of the band steering. Works much better now.Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:34:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1481993#M20656cmgreenman2018-01-09T13:34:00ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482244#M20680
<P><LI-USER uid="461655"></LI-USER>,<BR /><BR />The short answer is that if things are working well for you, there is no reason to change anything. Things were not working well for me, so I found a solution that works.<BR /><BR />I discussed this more in my posts #7 and #15 earlier in this thread:<BR /><BR /><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396997#M14953" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396997#M14953</A><BR /><BR /><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399471#M15068" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1399471#M15068</A><BR /><BR />Not everyone has the same situation. That's why choice is good. People for whom a single SSID works already have that choice. People for whom it does not work sort of have a choice if they are comfortable with telnet.<BR /><BR />I live in one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in one of the largest cities in the US. It's just one tall apartment building after another. They're right next to each other.<BR /><BR />As I'm sure you know, 2.4 GHz is much more crowded and much more prone to interference. For whatever reason, the Orbi would&nbsp;switch 5 GHz-capable devices to 2.4 GHz even when they are in the same room for hours and hours.<BR /><BR />My wife and I work from home and rely on our Internet connection all day every day. We can't afford downtime in the middle of important work calls. I was sort of resigning myself to the fact that I had to turn Wi-Fi off and on multiple times each day, but she rightly said that that was completley unacceptable — especially since we had just spent hundreds of dollars on the Orbi system.<BR /><BR />I finally found out how to set up separate SSIDs, so my primary devices will only connect to the 5 GHz network. (A couple IoT devices connect to the 2.4 GHz network, and that's fine for them.)<BR /><BR />After setting up separate SSIDs, the Orbi has been rock solid for me in my home.<BR /><BR />Everyone has a different situation, and I think it's rather presumptive for someone to tell me that the solution that works for me shouldn't work or isn't the right solution.<BR /><BR />If using a single SSID works for you, that's awesome! That's the way the Orbi works out of the box, so you have a much easier time with the Orbi than I did. I'm genuinely happy for you. I wish my experience was like that. I'm kind of jealous. <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /><BR /><BR />Why some folks can't seem to be equally as happy that others found a way to make the Orbi rock solid in <STRONG>their own environments</STRONG> perplexes me.</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:03:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482244#M20680khad2018-01-09T18:03:05ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482285#M20685
<P>Ok, all of you sound like experts and what you were saying sounds like Greek. &nbsp;Bottom line, is there an easy way to create a seperate SSID for 5 GHZ and 2.4 GHZ?</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:57:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482285#M20685mahjr2018-01-09T18:57:26ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482292#M20686
<P><LI-USER uid="549178"></LI-USER>,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The only way to have separate SSIDs at this time is to follow the steps in my original post:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396594#M14929" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1396594#M14929</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>For whatever reason, Netgear doesn't provide a simple, editable text field in the Wireless Network configuration. (I really wish they did.) At this time, you'll need to use telnet. If you're not comofrtable with that, you should probably ask&nbsp;a friend who is.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:07:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482292#M20686khad2018-01-09T19:07:24ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482346#M20690
<P>When I tried "config get wla_ssid" I didn't get a&nbsp;response. Not even a wifi name. Nevertheless I changed the name to a 5GHZ network. Now I do get a response with config get wla_ssid, but the 5GHZ SSID isn't showing up when I scan for networks. Any ideas?</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:00:39 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482346#M20690Chrissnn2018-01-09T20:00:39ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482354#M20693
<P>Check your main Orbi 'Advanced Home' page and verify the 5G is showing the name you want and the Broadcast Name is ON if desired. If it isn't you have to do the telnet again and get it in there (don't forget the reboot). If the correct name is showing in the main Orbi but not the satellites you will need to power cycle the satellites to get them to pick it up (at least that is what I had to do). Side note: If the Broadcast Name isn't on you can toggle that in Advanced, Advanced Setup, Wireless Settings. Good luck!</P>Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:07:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482354#M20693mc_nOtgear2018-01-09T20:07:53ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482571#M20713
<P>Thanks for the inital posting, great thread.&nbsp; I am coming from a Nighthawk and new Nighthawk extender that had amazing whole house coverage on the 5 Ghz band.&nbsp; With my 150/150 internet, I only get about 70/60 at 2.4 Ghz because the 2.4 Ghz band is soooo crowded in my area (next to some multi-family developments).&nbsp; Just put in Orbi because, well,&nbsp;they are more aesthetically pleasing (wifey), more so than the obsidian behemoths.&nbsp; Honestly, the Orbis seem like the same tech, even the extender ports/buttons are in the same spots&nbsp;on the satellite, but the Orbi is clearly meant for the non-prosumer, for example, Nighthawk has a WPS button, Orbi has a "Sync" button in the same spot.&nbsp; Instantly noticed the speed issue and attirbuted it to the 2.4 GHz issue because I knew the speeds I was getting on both bands.&nbsp; I have enablled the MMO and Beamforming per another thread, which seems to be holding for the moment, but I was a hair away from putting the&nbsp;Nighthawks back in place to blast out the signal until I saw this thread.&nbsp; I will try the seperate SSIDs if it falls back to 2.4 Ghz and report back.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I will say it not nicer than you.&nbsp; Anyone who thinks that a prosumer shouldn't be able to adjust the settings, like establishing 2 SSIDs, on their very, very expensive router needs to have their head examined. Orbi is designed to be a consumer friendly whole house solution, but to be a solution for everyone, it has to have flexibility.</P>Wed, 10 Jan 2018 01:22:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482571#M20713jenkinsat2018-01-10T01:22:29ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482625#M20718
Thank you so much! This have helped me tremendously! Am able to properly test my network and see how each band are operating! And I was! Able to see my data flow dipping on my 5 and extremely **bleep**! On 2.4 now I can adjust my channels according to adapt to my environment! 🙌🏽 Thank you a million this was something that was nagging me before cause I couldn’t test my data stream! 😩Wed, 10 Jan 2018 04:32:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482625#M20718Mgomez852018-01-10T04:32:29ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482919#M20738
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539981"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P><LI-USER uid="544879"></LI-USER></P><P>Thanks. So, if I telet satellite and separate SSIDs then I end up with 4 SSIDs? That's the reason why I returned Amplifi HD because when I separated SSIDs on Amplifi HD, I ended up with 4 SSIDs (two from router and two from satellite).&nbsp; My Orbi is arriving on Friday and would really like to know this prior to unboxing it.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><LI-USER uid="539981"></LI-USER>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Actually, if you do a wifi scan you will see that you will ALWAYS have 4 SSIDs.&nbsp; 2 from each router.&nbsp; They just all 4 happen to be set the same by default.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:32:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1482919#M20738cmgreenman2018-01-10T14:32:03ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1484683#M20959
<P>Hello, I have the latest Macbook Pro running Higher Sierra. I'm tryin to separate the SSID's on my Netgear Orbi system using the instructions you've given me.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>1. I've logged into the admin panel and enabled TELNET there. Great.</P><P>2. Now when I open Terminal and enter:</P><PRE>telnet 192.168.1.1&nbsp;</PRE><P>it shows me an error. See attached screenshot. So now I'm stuck? How do you get make the TELNET work in higher Sierra. What is th exact set of commands in Terminal please to allow me to then follow your instructions to separate the SSID's on the Orbi so my devices can only link to the 5Ghz channels all the time. Thank you!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:35:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1484683#M20959worldofshayan2018-01-12T16:35:25ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1484732#M20965
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="495820"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR />
<P>Hello, I have the latest Macbook Pro running Higher Sierra. I'm tryin to separate the SSID's on my Netgear Orbi system using the instructions you've given me.</P>
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<P>1. I've logged into the admin panel and enabled TELNET there. Great.</P>
<P>2. Now when I open Terminal and enter:</P>
<PRE>telnet 192.168.1.1&nbsp;</PRE>
<P>it shows me an error. See attached screenshot. So now I'm stuck? How do you get make the TELNET work in higher Sierra. What is th exact set of commands in Terminal please to allow me to then follow your instructions to separate the SSID's on the Orbi so my devices can only link to the 5Ghz channels all the time. Thank you!</P>
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<P>Apple removed telnet. &nbsp;</P>
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<P>Use "nc 192.168.1.1 23" instead</P>Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:25:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1484732#M20965st_shaw2018-01-12T17:25:45ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488742#M21565
<P>If this isn't working for anyone with satellites you need to telnet into those to do the same operation as on your Orbi router and again you won't be able to telnet into them until you Enable Telnet in the satellites.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Presuming you have already performed the correct operation for the main Orbi router do the following:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Go to your Attached Devices under the basic tab in your Orbi router admin to see what the ip addresses are for your satellites, usually 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Then log out of your router admin and log in to your satellites by&nbsp;going to&nbsp;their ip address in a browser:&nbsp;</P><PRE>http://192.168.1.2</PRE><P>Log in with same username and password as for your main router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Once logged in you may already see the new names you gave for your 2.4g and 5g SSIDs previously in the main router but that doesn't mean they are working correctly for your satellites yet.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Then go to&nbsp;</P><PRE>192.168.1.2/debug.htm</PRE><P>and tick Enable Telnet.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>After that you will be able to telnet into your satellites</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>telnet 192.168.1.2</PRE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Test to see if your satellite is using the new SSIDs</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>config get wl_ssid</PRE><P>and</P><PRE>config get wla_ssid</PRE><P>If you get an no response for one of the SSIDs then you know you need to set them.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>To set them you can perform the same operations as previously described (hit enter after each line):</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>config set wl_ssid="ENTER A NAME FOR 2.4G"
config set wla_ssid="ENTER A NAME FOR 5G"
config commit
reboot</PRE><P>Also remeber if you have RBK40 or RBR40 Orbi routers you'll need to again (just as you did for the main router) use the below&nbsp;work around before&nbsp;setting names for the SSIDs above.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><PRE>config set wl_ssid="$id_set"
config set wla_ssid="$id_set"
config commit
reboot</PRE><P>Repeat for each satellite.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Hope that helps.</P>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:32:14 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488742#M21565cannon3032018-01-17T23:32:14ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488747#M21566
<P>Hi</P><P>Thank you for this post, really useful!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>One question though - I am unable to connect to any of the 192.168.1.1 pages you direct me to so that I can enable telnet (telnet works on my laptop)&nbsp; - is there something else I need to turn on / off? As far as I know there are no parental controls or other things like that turned on.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Incidentally I have just updated to the latest firmware - v2.1.2.18. Is is possible that they have changed / blocked the IP address?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Any thoughts hugely appreciated. Thank you!</P>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:35:52 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488747#M21566NickSaund2018-01-17T23:35:52ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488753#M21570
<P>I'm using the same firmware and works for me but I'm on RBR40. Can you log in to your main router admin?</P>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:39:38 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488753#M21570cannon3032018-01-17T23:39:38ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488756#M21571
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="549331"></LI-USER> wrote:<BR /><P>Hi</P><P>Thank you for this post, really useful!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>One question though - I am unable to connect to any of the 192.168.1.1 pages you direct me to so that I can enable telnet (telnet works on my laptop)&nbsp; - is there something else I need to turn on / off? As far as I know there are no parental controls or other things like that turned on.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Incidentally I have just updated to the latest firmware - v2.1.2.18. Is is possible that they have changed / blocked the IP address?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Any thoughts hugely appreciated. Thank you!</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Are you able to log in to your router via:</P><PRE>http://orbilogin.net/</PRE>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:41:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488756#M21571cannon3032018-01-17T23:41:56ZRe: How to set a separate SSID for the 5 GHz network on your Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488776#M21574
<P>hi I did all of the steps, but the 5G network still doesn't show up even though I attached a 5G at the end</P><P>when I use iwconfig, it shows ath1 (the 5G) as&nbsp;ESSID:"NETGEAR_ORBI_hidden79"</P><P>I checked the settings, and the SSID is supposed to show</P><P>I have the RBR40, firmware&nbsp;<SPAN>V2.1.2.18</SPAN></P>Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:03:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/How-to-set-a-separate-SSID-for-the-5-GHz-network-on-your-Orbi/m-p/1488776#M21574sadioasjoidsa2018-01-18T00:03:46Z