ok sorry to be so "off-topic" on the current conversation but I saw something rather disturbing on Gizmos signature!

[DarkNessX]: hey Gizmo Does linux come with a shell?

someone tell me that was not a serious question!

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The use of "hacker" to mean "security breaker" is a confusion on the part of the mass media. We hackers refuse to recognize that meaning, and continue using the word to mean, "Someone who loves to program and enjoys being clever about it."--------------------"Its not a bug, its a feature" (Epic Games)