ON the day of the ruling I went to Hobby Lobby, and I asked some employees what they thought. They said they were all celebrating the victory of religious freedom! The employees saw it as a VICTORY for their rights!!! For ALL OF OUR RIGHTS!!!!

You know why?

People who want to work at Hobby Lobby want to work there because they share the values of the owners! There are religious signs all over the place. It is a very Christian place. Top to bottom.

I don’t share the Hobby Lobby owners religion, but I share their values, and they have good products, and a 40% off coupon everyday.

So your argument is that despite the availability of safe and easy contraception people should forgo sex.
Tlaloc on July 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

So your argument is that despite the availability of safe and easy (and cheap) contraception that someone else is already willing to cover in their corporate insurance plan, because there are 4 abortion drugs they don’t want to cover, all contraception is being banned for all women by the Republicans.

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Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:24:11 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=345559#comment-8277397Long time lurker, first time poster… I actually signed up during one of the last open registrations, but never posted until now. :)

Last week, after the SCOTUS decision, an ex-sorta girlfriend (I guess you could call her that–we went out a few times) shared the “Not My Boss’s Business” post from Planned Parenthood. She claims to be a big Pro-Lifer. But lately she’s had quite a bit to say about how great it is that O’care now pays for her contraception. (She’s married to another guy now, but I really don’t care to hear about their bedroom activities.)

Normally I stay out of the political threads on social media, choosing to observe from afar with the occasional “Like.” But, since I knew she considers herself Pro-Life, I wanted to make sure she was aware which side she was aligning herself with on this issue. I, along with another friend, tried to explain that abortifacients, not contraceptives as a whole, were the issue in this case & that Hobby Lobby wasn’t at all trying to keep anyone from getting their contraceptives. But one of her lib friends came along behind us with the typical leftist extremism & hyperbole. (My favorite was, “Gluttony is a sin, so are they going to stop covering obese people?”) So I doubt that our efforts to explain the issue convinced her of anything.

As much as I would like to believe that the GOP could win more young women if we treated them as intelligent beings, I’m afraid that realistically, my friend is pretty representative of the millenial LIVs who are persuaded with the left’s fear-mongering. And it’s a shame–she should be an easy vote for our side.

But on a personal note, I’m sure glad we didn’t end up together. I’m looking for a woman who thinks with her mind, not her lady parts.

(FTR, there are a lot of reasons I’m glad we didn’t end up together. This was just the latest example.)

No, the argument is that women should pull their big girl panties up, and pay for themselves. If you cannot pay $9 a month at target for BCP, then you can’t afford sex. If you can’t afford sex(or a baby) then the best thing to do is to forego sex. Despite all those teenage boys, NO ONE has died because they didn’t have sex.

So your argument is that despite the availability of safe and easy contraception people should forgo sex. And you think that not only will you be successful in stopping a core natural function that is programmed into our very DNA but that your argument will be popular and lead to electoral gains at the ballot box.

If one is judged by their enemies I’ve just been horribly insulted.

Tlaloc on July 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM

No, the argument is that women should pull their big girl panties up, and pay for themselves. If you cannot pay $9 a month at target for BCP, then you can’t afford sex. If you can’t afford sex(or a baby) then the best thing to do is to forego sex. Despite all those teenage boys, NO ONE has died because they didn’t have sex.

What healthcare? I’m a full-time student. I can’t afford healthcare right now.

Yours is a weak argument, Tlaloc. My point wasn’t about women not getting healthcare…it was about priorities. Do you really enjoy living your life knowing that, politically speaking, you’re reduced to nothing but an object to serve the purpose of sex? Seriously?

Women deserve better than that, but many females put themselves in that position by adhering to these roles that society puts upon us..including the one that has been propagated by the Feminist Movement for the past 5 decades that says women don’t have what it takes to handle responsibilities.

To me, that’s holding a low standard for women. I think we’re capable of more than that.

Maybe you could role model for women by giving up some of your own health care first. You know, just to be consistent.

Tlaloc on July 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM

Not a problem. My last two health plans offered extremely limited dental benefits, and none of them in the last several years covered my contact lenses.

So, I’m paying for the health care I actually need out of my own pocket, while I am required to carry coverage for maternity care and substance abuse (just the thing for a non-drinking, non-smoking man about town).

So now that the consistent part is out of the way, am I free to purchase something I actually need? Or did you just present this because you assumed no person could have an honest disagreement with ACA?

We’re going into second and third generation of females who have been led down the garden path on the matter of their sexual “rights”. Yet being an American isn’t only about ‘rights”…it’s also about responsibilities.

Women are capable of meeting the challenges of those responsibilities….very much so capable of it, as a matter of fact. And our nation would be better for it by far if more women would ask it of themselves to look at their responsibilities as a higher priority than their “rights”.

lineholder on July 8, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Maybe you could role model for women by giving up some of your own health care first. You know, just to be consistent.

The only time in recorded history that abstinence didn’t work was Mother Mary.

ConstantineXI on July 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM

So your argument is that despite the availability of safe and easy contraception people should forgo sex. And you think that not only will you be successful in stopping a core natural function that is programmed into our very DNA but that your argument will be popular and lead to electoral gains at the ballot box.

Why should women and young men have to pay for old men’s erectile dysfunction pills? Yet there they are, covered under most health plans. The double standard is so boring at this point.

libfreeordie on July 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Ok, so the goal is “access”, yes? That’s the word used, and the goal.

SO we should follow the lead of people pushing for easier and more ACCESS… LA Governor Bobby Jindal in 2012, and more recently CO Senate Candidate Cory Gardner who are following the recommendation of The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists made in 2012.

Can you find me a LIBERAL who is an elected politician or running for office who promotes this? Both of those two are Republicans… weird, aren’t they the ones you’re certain oppose “access”?

Or is moving this to OTC status not going to affect “access” and the doctor’s visit is required.

Yes, I know your lobbyist giving you kickbacks from the Pharmacological and Doctor groups are pushing to keep the doctor visit required… but that limits ACCESS doesn’t it?

I can find a third (Gabriel Gomez, candidate for the special US Senate election in MA in 2013) but he’s a Republican too.

Can you find me three Democrats elected or running for office who are for this as well; or are they only for “access” when they keep access more complicated, costly, and time consuming?

Weird that your side is supposed for “access” but isn’t willing to support the most obvious, clear, and useful method to increase access.

Why it’s almost like the point of this isn’t really access at all for liberals. Why is that?

A nice way of describing complete morons who are just begging to be exploited as nothing more than a reproductive organ.
Hey Prog babes – if you want to be considered SOLELY as a uterus, please go right ahead. That’s how these Progs view you, a means to an end. But it’s all on YOU!

In the meantime, 44 states allow gender-based abortions = the REAL #WarOnWomen. So where is the outrage?
Hypocrites all…

You may see future Conservatives in that. All I see are young people (particularly females) who have bought into the misleading lies propagated by the left about sexual freedoms and liberties, and the “rights” they should be entitled to.

We’re going into second and third generation of females who have been led down the garden path on the matter of their sexual “rights”. Yet being an American isn’t only about ‘rights”…it’s also about responsibilities.

Women are capable of meeting the challenges of those responsibilities….very much so capable of it, as a matter of fact. And our nation would be better for it by far if more women would ask it of themselves to look at their responsibilities as a higher priority than their “rights”.

Access to birth control, up to and including abortion, is the sine qua non of a quality life, and women get that./blockquote>

Birth control is not abortion. Anyone who is remotely honest can understand the distinction. The two cannot, and will not be all lumped together, ever.

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Tue, 08 Jul 2014 18:02:12 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=345559#comment-8276516I have a headache…and by God it is my right as an American to have a FREE ASPIRIN, so you Conservative, TEA Bag dirtbags need to all toss in a couple of bucks so I can go down the street to the local CVS and get me some free aspirin!

On 2nd thought, I need something stronger. Everybody toss in a $5 so I can get some pot for my headache…and I mean the GOOD stuff, not that stem/twig-stuff the federal government hands out. You guys should be FORCED to buy me some gonja! (rolling my eyes…you KNOW that is coming!)