This is a double leg. For lack of a better term it could be called a TBC, version 2.

I don't know how to say it any better....

Hee, sorry Peach. Either I'm confused by what you're saying, or I disagree with you....

We just watched the end of Leg 2, right? Leg 1 ended on Shelley Beach...right?

At the starting line, Phil said, "The first team to check into the Pit Stop at the end of this first leg of the race will win the Express Pass". The clue given the teams after the sailing task said "Make your way to the Pit Stop" and " the last team to check in may be eliminated". Phil introduced Shelley Beach on camera as the Pit Stop. The chyron said "Pit Stop". Gary & Mallory arrived first and received the Express Pass. How could that not be the Pit Stop and therefore the end of the leg??

As I saw it, the episode was "To be Continued" not the leg. The leg ended on Shelley Beach when teams checked in. There was just no "Mandatory Rest Period", the second leg began immediately.

If that's the case, I don't understand why the last team to check in didn't receive a penalty, regardless of who that team is. No, I dont believe TPTB changed things to save the Cowboys. I just think it was bad planning and a missed opportunity.

They knew that there would be a team facing the Automatic U-turn in this leg. Giving a (deserved) Speed Bump to the last team to check in on Leg 1 would have at least given more of a chance for the U-Turn team to survive and would have added another element of suspense. Or, at the very least, I would have expected them to include a regular U-Turn so that there was the possibility of 2 teams facing it. 2 teams dealing with penalties adds much more drama, and since a penalty was in order, I dont understand why it was done the way it was.

I just went to look back at the picture of the Wiki page I took back in November 25, 2010. The results someone updated then were almost entirely correct, with the exception of Margie & Luke and Kisha & Jen switching places at the end of Leg 1.

I just went to look back at the picture of the Wiki page I took back in November 25, 2010. The results someone updated then were almost entirely correct, with the exception of Margie & Luke and Kisha & Jen switching places at the end of Leg 1.

While I would like to think the first two episodes this season are an uberleg, I'm siding with the two legs with no rest period interpretation.

Why?

First Phil said there were 12 legs before he released the teams in Palm Springs.

Second, the clue directing teams to Shelly Beach made reference to a pit stop and that the last team to arrive may be eliminated.

Third, the Express Pass was award at the end of this leg, as it was at the end of the first leg of TAR 17.

The only difference is that there was no rest period between legs 1 and 2.

So while these first two legs emulated an uberleg to the extent that we're debating the issue, I still think that unless we find there are to be 13 episodes and 13 hours, then the 12 legs cover 12 episodes and 12 hours (as reported by The Futon Critic).

The other thing to keep in mind is that WRP has all but abandoned a standard rest period or 24 hour multiples. We've increasingly had odd-length rest periods, and increasingly, we don't even get told what the departure times are for particular legs. So given that, two legs with no rest period inbetween, as opposed to an uberleg, was due to happen. (You will note teams weren't even given money amounts for these first two legs, or at least I never heard any amounts or saw any teams with US dollars at any point in either Palm Springs or on Shelly Beach.

(I will note that Masem, who does the primary editing of the Wikipedia pages on TAR has changed their assessment and are now treating Shelley Beach as the end of the first leg, and Broken Hill as the end of the second.)

One other point on the TBC -- we had a similar issue during TARAS in Poland, where some teams began the next leg before the trailing teams completed the first leg in Poland. I think that may be the most pertinent precedent for how these two episodes were edited.

Peach. I don't doubt that the 12 episodes was reported here first, but TFC relies on materials released by the networks in their listings for all of the programs, both broadcast and cable, currently on air; I referenced them because they rely on industry sources, and I viewed it as a confirmation.

At the moment, they're showing 12 episodes, with the final two episodes being back to back on May 8th. I'm not aware that anyone else has shown that tidbit of information. And if CBS changes their plans, I suspect they'll know there as soon as anyone.

Leg 1 was a double-length leg shown over the course of two episodes, with only one Roadblock and one Detour. The Express Pass was awarded to the team who came in first at the midpoint, rather than at the first Pit Stop.

Sorry ugot, I don't really get what the problem is. Tammy and Victor used their knowledge of Chinese to assist them in TAR14. Other teams have known other languages and used them. I don't think that being able to understand the other teams is a right the racers have.

I will attempt here to guesstimate the timing of each transportation task or DETOUR around greater Broken Hill. I am letting the chips fall where they may and not trying to make a case for how a 8 hour stop can easily be accomplished (although that may be my conclusion) before train depature at 1830. We start with the arrival of those flights at 0755 and 0820. One key piece of information is where the clubhouse of the rugby team Magpies (it says "football league" but this is Australian rules rugby to my eyes). I have them at Warnock St. adjacent to Memorial Oval off Williams St. where Central "Football" League games are played.

Get self-drive car 5 minutesSelf-drive 7km north to Broken Hill central business district 7 minutesGet directions from locals for road to Living Desert 5 to 10 minutesSelf-drive 11km to Living Desert 11 minutesSpirit World DETOUR (note - with overlap we know this must take at least 25 minutes) 30 to 40 minutesNatural World DETOUR (Amanda/Kris only, although it appeared to be much quicker than Spirit World) 10 minutesSelf-drive back to Magpies dressing room on /warnock St.south side of Barrier Highway slightly east of Gypsum St. 11km 11 minutesDon kangaroo costumes 5 minutesFind out what and where Bismuth and Mercury St. intersection is and hop there, 3000 feet away 15 to 25 minutes Self-drive to pit stop at Junction Mine, Menindee St. (goes along east side of central business district)- quickest route is Gympsum St. South to Silver City Highway east to Iodide St. north one block, pick up Barrier Highway on southeast side of CBD going east, to south on Menindee St. I estimate 3 miles and 10 minutes for the quickest, double that for slower teams 10 to 20 minutes

That gives a range of 99 to 134 minutes. When added to the plane arrivals, that gives pit stop arrival of 934am to 1054am. Add in a pit stop of up to 11 hours and maybe 5 minutes after pit stop release to get to train station and teams can easily make the 1830 train.

I will attempt here to guesstimate the timing of each transportation task or DETOUR around greater Broken Hill. I am letting the chips fall where they may and not trying to make a case for how a 8 hour stop can easily be accomplished (although that may be my conclusion) before train depature at 1830. We start with the arrival of those flights at 0755 and 0820. One key piece of information is where the clubhouse of the rugby team Magpies (it says "football league" but this is Australian rules rugby to my eyes). I have them at Warnock St. adjacent to Memorial Oval off Williams St. where Central "Football" League games are played.

Spirit World DETOUR (note - with overlap we know this must take at least 25 minutes) 30 to 40 minutesNatural World DETOUR (Amanda/Kris only, although it appeared to be much quicker than Spirit World) 10 minutes

This agrees with my thinking when I was watching the show. I was sure most of the teams would go for the Natural World as it looked much quicker although putting the paint in your mouth and spraying it was potentially disgusting. How long could it take to spit paint around a few stencils? I was really surprised when everyone went after the Spirit World detour as it looked much fussier. Judging by the teams that didn't copy it right the first time and didn't dance on the painting at first, it was.