Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we're going to do with marriage when we get there.

It's a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. (This statement is met with very loud applause.)

"...a theory that many supporters of traditional marriage have speculated about for years: The push for gay marriage has less to do with the right to marry-- it is about diminishing and eventually destroying the institution of marriage and redefining the "traditional family".

I actually don't know how I feel about gay marriage. I've gone back and forth about it. I've always told myself that if two (same sex) people want to stand together in front of God and everybody and vow to only love each other and be faithful to only each other...then I would much rather that happen than people getting married because of a baby or because they have the same favorite color and then call it quits over their first fight.

All of my gay friends who are getting married just want the same benefits that other couples already enjoy. There's no goal to "redefine" marriage, it's simply applying the correct social definition to marriage. When to atheists get married, it does nothing to the religious definition of marriage, so why would two gay people getting married change the religious definition?

I think it's more likely that there is a small group of people who have this intention of derailing marriage and are using the gay and lesbian population to do the work for them. Similar to what happened to the feminists and abortion.

I think it's more likely that there is a small group of people who have this intention of derailing marriage and are using the gay and lesbian population to do the work for them. Similar to what happened to the feminists and abortion.

Yes! This is what I am trying to say. Thank you Rusty. Most gays are just wanting to live their lives in peace. The small, vocal, powerful homosexual agenda people are the ones to worry about. They DO have a bigger agenda than marriage. They say it, why don't people believe it? These are LIBERALS, people. They don't do anything without a larger agenda! Liberals in power are dangerous people.

I never stated that this agenda is the one every gay person follows or wants. Obviously that would not be true. Look at this board as an example. We all have certain beliefs in common, but others we differ greatlly.

There's also a small group of people who are still hell bent in denying blacks basic rights, who think of them as second class citizens. Should we start worrying about those people taking over and taking rights away from non-whites? No? Well why not, if a small fringe group apparently has enough power to fundementally change our society?

If you judge those seeking equal marriage rights by the extremes, can I judge all Christians based on the Westboro Baptist Church. I realize that it does not describe all Christians, but it is certainly a vocal group of Christians.