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I am in Temecula also but more outside of town, past the wineries and up in the hills off Anza Road. Where are you in Temecula and what digital stations are you able to pull in? I haven't bothered with an OTA antenna since antennaweb said the only digital I would have access to is PBS San Bernardino.

I too have moved my rca indoor antenna to my Sony and split the signal to both the TV and the 622. The TV receives the signal just fine. Let us know how the attennuator works. If it does then I am onboard in getting one as well.Can you let us know where you got the attenuator from?Did the engineer say if the reduction in signal strength will affect the ota channels?

My 622 will nor recognize DTV channel 19.1 out of Monroe Louisiana but my mistubishi tv has no problems with it. When scaning for channels on 622 it tries to lock in on 19 but will not do. My TV tuner has no problems with this channel and never pixalates on this channel. I have never gotten the 622 to lock in on this channel so I can't tell you the signal strength but tv has no problems with it. This is the only channel that does this. This channels frequency assignment is 19.Also the 622 locks up EVERYTIME I scan and save a change on OTA.

A FOX engineer here in Tallahassee says he's identified the problem and is working on the solution.

Hello I have discovered a problem many of you already know of and have. The Dish 622 box will lockup/drop out when receiving WTLH Fox49's feed. You probably don't have a problem with your antenna if you receive the other stations without problems.

The problem is on our end and involves timing (pcr). The microwave should not be the problem can't blame it anymore have to find something else. I am working on it with help from Dish. More as I can.

My fingers are crossed. Hopefully he can get connected with the folks in Austin. Or, if anybody on this board has any suggestions regarding "timing (pcr)", please speak up.

I am in Temecula also but more outside of town, past the wineries and up in the hills off Anza Road. Where are you in Temecula and what digital stations are you able to pull in? I haven't bothered with an OTA antenna since antennaweb said the only digital I would have access to is PBS San Bernardino.

I tried antenna web today, and no stations show up for me... they did a few weeks ago, so I dunno whats up with that site.

Anyways....

The antenna I have is the winegard HD-9095 with an AP-4700 pre-ampThe OTA gives signals stengths on a scale of 0-100I can get CBS usually with signals in the 90s FOX, NBC, ABC are in the 70-80's. I never bothered trying to get any other stations.This antenna is on the highest point of roof, and is on a 10 foot mast, so it's pretty high up.

I actually just orded an AP-4800 preamp, so I will update you next week, if this preamp works better. This is a higher gain pre-amp. Sometimes, during bad weather, the OTA signals drop to the 60's, so I amp hoping that this will help just a little.

Glad to see this issue is getting some renewed attention. Maybe it'll even get fixed before 24 starts up!

I have my antenna hooked to both my TV and my 622 via a splitter that attenuates 3.5 dB, and have been noticing the dropouts for some time. On a lark, I tried removing the splitter, but noticed no chance to the KTBC reception performance. I also tried leaving the splitter in and connecting another attenuator to the back of the antenna (the same attenuator that ships with the receiver that you connect to TV2 coax if you're using it to drive a TV directly ... I'm pretty sure it's 3 dB). My KTBC signal dropped out entirely ... I'm guessing it was attenuated too much at that point.

I tried contacting KTBC but got nowhere. It sounds like someone has an open line with the KTBC engineer ... please stay on them with this, your fellow Austinites appreciate it!

I tried antenna web today, and no stations show up for me... they did a few weeks ago, so I dunno whats up with that site.

Anyways....

The antenna I have is the winegard HD-9095 with an AP-4700 pre-ampThe OTA gives signals stengths on a scale of 0-100I can get CBS usually with signals in the 90s FOX, NBC, ABC are in the 70-80's. I never bothered trying to get any other stations.This antenna is on the highest point of roof, and is on a 10 foot mast, so it's pretty high up.

I actually just orded an AP-4800 preamp, so I will update you next week, if this preamp works better. This is a higher gain pre-amp. Sometimes, during bad weather, the OTA signals drop to the 60's, so I amp hoping that this will help just a little.

Personally I think it's a problem with Fox's transmitters not synching perfectly with the 622. The 622 freaks and can't handle it. This seemed to get worse AFTER the last update was downloaded.

Oh, well. I'm going to be out of the country for a year or so. Was trying to get it fixed before I left so the girlfriend wouldn't have to deal with it. Maybe they will fix it before I get back. Thanks to everyone for all their input.

I tried both a 6dB and 10dB antennuator and can confirm this does not work. I have ViP 622, KTBC here in Austin, a roof-mounted CM-4228 antenna and good quality cabling. The problem started after KTBC made an "exciter upgrade" on their tower here in Austin. I can't post a link yet as I'm under 5 posts but find the 'Austin, TX' thread in the "Local HDTV Info and Reception" sub-forum under HDTV forum on AVSForum.com.

EDIT: These last few posts about the Talla Engineer seem like the first breakthrough in the chronic issue. I'll post something on AVSForum and point folks there to this thread to see if the poster there with the KTBC Engineer's ear can get him in touch with the Talla WTLH Engineer.

Any luck with the attenuator? I'm curious because I'll try it also if it works for you.

Well I tried putting a splitter in-line that has a 3db drop but no luck.He called me back yesterday and said he will send a 3db pad to me soon to see if this helps. I take it he wants the ota signal to be lower than 90, right now with the splitter in-line it is still 95. He said after putting the attenuator in-line we should let the receiver reprogram the locals in. I will let you know if this works..BTW, the signal meter on these receivers are for reference only and not any actual measurement of any kind, just there to help you aim an antenna.

I find it funny that the satellite signal is 110%. Ever tried to fill a glass 110%?

I actually just orded an AP-4800 preamp, so I will update you next week, if this preamp works better. This is a higher gain pre-amp. Sometimes, during bad weather, the OTA signals drop to the 60's, so I amp hoping that this will help just a little.

****UPDATE******

The "upgraded pre-amp" only caused more problems. I actually removed the pre-amp and connected the antenna straight to the receiver and it works flawlessly.

So no pre-amp needed (for my setup) turns out the preamp was overloading the signal

I live in Warrior, Alabama very hilly terrain and have had the 622 for about a month now. I have markets to the north and south of me. My preffered market is to the south and on my Hitachi with OTA tuner I get all channels with few dropouts unless bad weather but has trouble with the market to the north. But the 622 is just the opposite. Can't get Fox affiliate to the south at all but I get the market to the north with frequent dropouts unless perfect weather conditions. I have struggled greatly with this and tonight noticed there was a fair amount of heat on the 622. I raised it up about an inch hoping to improve cooling then started my ritual of trying to "fine tune my locals". I have a confidence level of about 1 out of 100 because the weather conditions are ideal tonight but my locals are 100% better so far. I still can't get FOX to the south but everything else is much more stable singnal levels only varying 3 or 4 points instead of 20 or more. I can only say I have my fingers crossed.

This problem with Fox may be more widespread than in the markets mentioned here so far. I live in the mountains of VA, have an attic mounted CM Stealthtenna and received all locals except Fox.

Most of the networks, including Fox, broadcast from a mountain top 7 miles to my west, ABC and WWCW are 24 miles east. My strongest signals have always been the eastern ones even though my antenna is pointed west, which means I'm probably being overshot somewhat by the closer networks. My 622 has never reported any signal from the Fox tower.

I do have one question. Does anyone know a what point the 622 locks on to a signal? My old receiver (Voom) would show whatever the signal strength it was getting and report "Locked On" or "Not Locked". The 622 shows zero on Fox but I can't help but wonder if in fact it's getting some signal, just not strong enough to lock.

I'm about to move my antenna outside which involves some very serious effort and am thinking it would be bad if my Fox signal was only a very few points below the 622's lock on point and all I really need to do is probe in my attic for a spot where I can get Fox. It's one thing to have zero signal, and another to have 49 and only need 50 to lock on.

Oh well I am fairly certain that the heat was not the trouble. I still have a much more stable signal but I am experiencing a few more drop outs tonight than last night even though I still have good weather. I do get the FOX affiliate to the north with the 622 so I'm not sure that it can be blamed on FOX...

Any luck with the attenuator? I'm curious because I'll try it also if it works for you.

I went out and purchased my own attenuator and that did not fix anything. I called Dish and talked to tech support and they claim they have never heard of this problem but would start a trouble ticket...I understand the locals will be in HD on the Sat sometime this year and that might be the only fix for this. As for now I don't watch fox anymore. I would switch to Directv but the upgrade fee for the 622 was a non refundable $200. If Dish or fox7 would call each other the problem might get resolved.

I just called 'em too ... interestingly enough the lady I talked to (really nice BTW) said she had an entry in the system for it. It wasn't helpful at all (contact the station, check antennaweb.org, etc.) but it seems like they're aware of it now.

I added my voice to yours, so maybe if enough people do that they'll be more driven to solve the problem (especially if other markets are seeing the same thing).

I went out and purchased my own attenuator and that did not fix anything. I called Dish and talked to tech support and they claim they have never heard of this problem but would start a trouble ticket...I understand the locals will be in HD on the Sat sometime this year and that might be the only fix for this. As for now I don't watch fox anymore. I would switch to Directv but the upgrade fee for the 622 was a non refundable $200. If Dish or fox7 would call each other the problem might get resolved.

Same here. Takes exactly 60 seconds then everything goes dark. I have to pull the plug & wait for it to boot up again, but everything is fine after that. Is annoying though.

When it does this just hold the power button down for approx 10 seconds and it will go thru a soft reboot. No need to unplug. Every once in a while after I reboot the TV and receiver handshake does not work. When this happens I just change my tv from HDMI TO INPUT 1 THEN BACK TO HDMI.

I'm experiencing the same thing with FOX in the Tri Cities area of Washington state.

I'm showing good signal strength but my receiver will not lock onto the signal. My VIP211 in another room is having the same problem. Those in my area with a D* tuner aren't having the same issue, so I think it's a E* problem.