FELIX: Jews are dumb. They were given the psalms, most of which are mini-road maps to realizing the Divine. What do they do? They follow the evil writings of the Talmud. Their plan for world domination is coming apart at the seams. They may be able to fool the animal masses in the West, but living in Asia, I can tell you the general populace are waking up to evil shenanigans of the Jews and their proxy states.

FRANKLIN RYCKAERT: You write: “They were given the psalms, most of which are mini-road maps to realizing the Divine.” Are you sure? I remember, after having read all the psalms, how disgusted I was by the contents, the hatred and the revengefulness. As an example, here is the one but last psalm, psalm 149 :

1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

7 To execute VENGEANCE upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

Roadmap to the Divine?

UNGENIUS: Franklin, I agree. How can a book, the Old Testament, full of death, destruction, selfishness, and devoid of love be a road to the Divine which contradicts what Jesus taught? Obviously, it can’t be as advertised, the Divine Word of God.

I view the Bible this way. The Old Testament is the “how not to do” book. The Gospels are the “how to do” book. Most of the rest of the New Testament is how to mix the Old Testament with the Gospels to form a confusing mess.

Once I started concentrating on the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels without consideration for the rest of the “Book,” real truth and solutions became much easier to see and understand. The more I ponder the Gospels, the more simple the message becomes.

FELIX: Franklin, I did use the words “most” in speaking of the psalms. May I suggest you read psalms 15, 19, 23, 24 and 91. There is nothing in those psalms inimicable to Christianity. In fact psalm 15 is very specific in adjuring one not to put one’s money out to usury nor to take reward against the innocent. Something the majority of Christians would be advised to follow. Psalm 91, if one adheres to its injunctions, one would indeed reach the divine. Please remember the words used by Satan when he tempted Jesus are from psalm 91. As you are familiar with it? I won’t insult your intelligence by a direct quote.

FRANKLIN RYCKAERT: Felix, Since I am an inveterate enemy of the Old Testament, I’ll give you a detailed answer.

PSALM 15:

This psalm does indeed make the impression of having real moral contents.

Verse 3 : “He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.”

Verse 5 : “He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent.”

But I have to remind you that in the O.T. with “neighbour” or “brother” only fellow-Israelites are meant. Deuteronomy 23 : 19-20 is unambiguous in this respect :

“…Thou shalt not lend upon usury TO THY BROTHER; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury. UNTO A STRANGER thou mayest lend upon usury; BUT NOT TO THY BROTHER thou shalt lend upon usury.”

A similar dual morality in slavery can be found in Leviticus 25 : 39-46. Judaism has a consistent DUAL MORALITY : do good to your fellow-Jews, but do bad to strangers. Roman historian Tacitus wrote this about the Jews :

“…and other reasons for their increasing wealth may be found in their stubborn loyalty and ready benevolence towards brother Jews. But the rest of the world they confront with the hatred reserved for enemies…”

http://www.livius.org/source-content/tacitus-on-the-jews/

Whenever you read moral exhortations in Jewish texts, remember those are meant only for fellow Jews. This is true for the O.T., the Talmud, Maimonides and all other writings of the rabbis.

PSALM 19

This psalm has great literary merit. There is nothing immoral in it. However its implicit cosmology is the well known optic illusion of a flat earth, covered by “the heavens” in which of course “God” resides.

PSALM 23

Again this psalm has great literary merit. There is little immoral in it, except for the passage : “… Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies…”, which suggests tribal favoritism.

PSALM 24

This psalm has great literary merit. Its first verse is definitely beautiful :

“…The earth is the LORD’s, and the fulness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein.”

But when the next verse says : “…For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods…” we are reminded of the faulty Biblical cosmology : “…The universe of the ancient Israelites was made up of a flat disc-shaped earth floating on water, heaven above, underworld below…”

Furthermore, the Sky-God of this faulty cosmology, is at the same time Israel’s war-God : “The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

This indicates the long development the Jewish God has made in the course of his history and the contradictions in maintaining his different forms at the same time.

PSALM 91

This is a psalm describing the protection “the most High” gives to those who take refuge in him. Since this God is entirely illusory we are not very impressed. Besides, he is again described as a war-God favouring his chosen people and punishing its enemies : ” 7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.”

Well, if this is the “best” the O.T. (or only the book of psalms) has to offer, it is not very much. A dual tribal morality and a faulty cosmology, with here and there some literary merit.

SPQR: Franklin, you write: “Judaism has a consistent DUAL MORALITY : do good to your fellow-Jews, but do bad to strangers.”

It’s only a dual morality if you assume all moral system are universal. I wouldn’t consider Judaism to be an actual religion. It’s more of a tribal doctrine on how to be successful parasites.

SEYMOUR ZAK: As a secular Jew and militant atheist, I have no wish to defend the Old Testament here. My words would be utterly wasted on the antisemitic rabble who throng this evil site and who hate the Old Testament for all the wrong reasons, i.e. they hate it only because it is a product of the Jewish mind. They hate it only because Jews wrote it. In other words, the identical text would have been regarded as a sacred work of consummate genius if it had been produced by gentiles! If White supremacists had been nominated as the Chosen people, no problem! They would have just loved it then!

Silly idiots.

With the single exception of Lasha Darkmoon who has written a long article in defense of the Old Testament (see here), no one on this site has had the sensitivity or the acumen to appreciate the sublime literary merits and moral profundity of the Old Testament.

The fact that Jesus Christ, whom many of you hold in high honor, constantly quoted from the Old Testament and even did so in his dying moments — Eli, eli, lama sabachthani—is conveniently forgotten by many of you purblind popinjays.

Let’s see what Lasha Darkmoon has to say about the Old Testament, even though this woman evokes in me (I confess) sentiments of the deepest revulsion and detestation:

Jesus quotes from the Old Testament constantly, including from the Psalms of David. His last words on the cross—Eli, eli, lama sabachthani? Lord, lord, why hast thou forsaken me?—is a quote from the Psalms of David.

Think, please think: would the last words of a dying man be a quote from a book he hated?(Emphasis in the original)

Christianity is built on the foundation of the Judaism of the Old Testament, by which I mean the sum total of the collective wisdom of countless generations of Jewish thought. For who can deny that Solomon was wise or that King David and Isaiah and Job had delved into the heart of things and plumbed the depths of the human condition? Cut away this rich foundation of Jewish thought and the whole building that is Christianity collapses.

Judaism is the dark root, Christianity the flower.

Finally, I wish to state this: the Old Testament is NOT the Talmud in embryo. The Talmud is seen by many good Jews as a heretical text which stands the Old Testament on its head — a deviation, contradiction and rejection of the Old Testament.

FRANKLIN RYCKAERT: Of 3 of the 5 psalms I criticized I said that they have (great) literary merit. For the rest I criticized them because of their contents, and not because they have been written by a certain tribe I don’t like.

It is naive to believe that all 150 psalms have been composed by king David himself. At most some of them were produced by poets at his court. The rest is a compilation of later compositions.

King David himself was a scoundrel, like most O.T. figures.
For a treatment of this despicable character, go to : King David, The Criminal at :

“…Meditating on the life of David must give great help to each Christian reader in sustaining the faith. While David is spoken of by God as obeying all the statutes and keeping all the commandments, we are astonished to find that murder, theft, lying, adultery, rape, treason, and treachery are among the crimes which he can be charged with…”

“…David was a liar. David was merciless. David was a thief. David was a murderer of hundreds of people including women and children. David was a traitor. David was a polygamist. David was an adulterer with the wife of Uriah. David raped the wife of Nabal. David was a coward. David was wicked. Yet, notwithstanding all these things, David was a man after God’s own heart…”

Jesus grew up in a Jewish environment, without the benefit of an education in Greek culture, the highest culture at that time. Hence Jesus was handicapped by a limited cultural framework of reference. Jewish scripture and Jewish culture was all he had. We feel this drawback to this day. It would be better for us had he been born a Greek, but then he could not have fulfilled his mission to the Jews, which was to intill some real morals and real spirituality in this criminal and materialistic people.

Seymour Zak: Thank you for your kind speech and the many valid points you make. I have benefited much from this discussion.

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Is this rehash of a rehash of a rehash absolutely necessary? We now run the risk of “Fr. John” showing up once again to recite to us every jot, jittle, tit, and tittle, every detail of the exploits of the Sons of Dodo [ Judges ; 10 ] .

And the ‘whitechrist” was away for so long. Spare us Oh Lord, from really long , drawn-out, never-ending holy & righteous sermons. The key to a successful sermon is brevity. As brief as possible, if at all possible. thx.

Plus, every time “Fr. John” shows up, I get thrown back into Spamblinka. It’s not easy being a “reprobate” “takfiri”.

Gilby : Only those who concur with me, Mega-Uber-Southern-Founding-Stock-Wasp, and my good friend and boon companion the jew-supremacist Zak, on religious matters and all other matters, will be invited to my garden party this shitonthepot shalom Saturday at my home Twelve Oaks….. nah nah… nah nah…

Gilbert, I could not agree more with you my mate! “The rest of the comments are intellectual babble by those who have no understanding.” …. There are too may arty-farty, pedantic, English Literature trained (the Jewish academic way) intellectual charlatans on this site. Their combined voluminous, art-farty, verbal gymnastics amounts to exactly NOTHING! They make me sick! …. So much of what lobro, etc, scribe out could be condensed down to one sentence , without all the eloquent, pretentious word-smithery involved. And lobro you admitted such pretentious finery attracts a certain sort of sheila! You can have your type my man! …. I can skim their comments in 3 seconds, as they say nothing! …. Lasha and Ellie are typical examples! … Learn to write and communicate with the masses you prima-donna, exhibitionists! …. I have more intelligence, empathy and understanding than all of you, as does Gilbert and Norbert! …. I did not read the crap in the article, as Gilbert is correct. … And get rid of the mentally ill Ellie for good, as she is a disgrace!

@ Max
Thanks for the compliment! I enjoy your methodology and analysis of articles as well. Also in most cases I agree with you. But differences among equals is unimportant, it is the thought that counts. And for everybody else, I love being a Jesus FREAK , for I know with his help, he and I will defeat the sons of the Devil/ Synagogue of Satan. That is the most important thing for all of us! Thanks, Norbert.

“…Meditating on the life of David must give great help to each Christian reader in sustaining the faith. While David is spoken of by God as obeying all the statutes and keeping all the commandments, we are astonished to find that murder, theft, lying, adultery, rape, treason, and treachery are among the crimes which he can be charged with…”

With many, even hundreds, of wives and concubines owned by many men, including David…. ‘adultery’ would not be the same then as today.

Adultery comes from the word, adulterate, which means to ‘make impure.’

‘Adultery’ was making the blood-lines ‘impure’…. by ‘tribe-mixing.’
Today we would call it ‘miscegenation.’ Race-Mixing.

Seymour Zak : Americans are pretty much golems by now so we should have an outright jew supremacist for president of the USA. I mean 91% of Americans are all for it. How golem-ish does it get! They need the right kind of direction. Adam Kadmon 4 President of the USA!!!!

Gilby : Thank God I finally found my missing glove, now I got my hand-made, silk, monographed just for me precious gloves back, the gloves my dear grandmother bought me as a birthday gift in Florence during our Grand Tour. A gentleman never goes out in public without his dear hand-made, silk, monographed gloves. Why I remember Michelangelo’s Statue of David in Florence, a magnificent work of art of a genius! David was a Jew, remember. And so I know now a jew for president is what us NON jews desperately need to save our beloved nation. I know that’s true ’cause I don’t care for the damn Yankees in Washington and I am “jew-wise”. I read and I contribute to the “jew-wise” “alternative” media all the time, and I saw Michelangelo’s jew statue of David the jew in Florence when my precious grandmother took me to Europe on my Grand Tour. The first time I had ever left my beloved Twelve Oaks to go abroad.

Ingrid : TROJ is a takfiri.

TROJ : I will go to Mecca and Medina and say my mea culpas, but first I got to walk my dog around the block, his morning walk.

Lobro : Yeah, TROJ walks his dog with a jew woman friend in his neighborhood.

Ingrid : That’s what I mean, TROJ is a “takfiri”.

TROJ : I’m getting confused here. Help!!!

Fr. John : There’s no help for those who have been eternally anathema-ized-sitteth upon.

If I thought TROJ were takfiri, I would have nothing more to do with him, but I like TROJ, mainly because he loves his dog.. takfiris probably don`t have dogs, just as well, they would probably hang them on the merest whim, such as eating in the street during ramadan..

Śrīla Prabhupāda: Yes, that’s right. They are not really interested in religion. It is simply show-bottle. If you do not follow the regulative principles, then where is your religion?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife”—but who is following this?

Journalist: Very few.

Śrīla Prabhupāda: So how can they say they’re religious? And without religion, human society is animal society.

Journalist: All right, but let me ask you this. How does your interpretation differ from the basic Judeo-Christian ethic of the Ten Commandments?

Śrīla Prabhupāda: There is no difference. But as I have told you, none of them are strictly following the Ten Commandments. So I simply say, “Please follow God’s commandments.” That is my message.
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Disciple: Srila Prabhupada is asking you, When did this civilization actually accept the teachings of Christ?

Carol: When have they? Overall, never at all. Only in small pockets. Overall, never.

Srila Prabhupada: Then why are you claiming that you are Christian? For instance, you are wearing a crucifix. You Westerners often keep or wear a crucifix, yet that sign actually means that you killed Christ. The crucufix is the symbol that you so-called followers of Christ killed Christ. Many, many people in the priestly order carry the cruifix. The crucifix is the sign that Lord Jesus Christ was killed. Is it not?

Carol: It is, but that symbol is also used to signify his triumph, or resurrection.

Srila Prabhupada: [Warily:] Maybe. [Laughter.] But mainly, that symbol shows how you killed Lord Jesus Christ. That is the sign. That reminds you that you killed your spiritual master. You accuse the Jewish people–”They killed him”–but you also killed him, and you are still killing. Although, of course, you like to call yourselves Christian.Therefore, I want to know‑‑you are a learned scholar‑‑since when did you start abiding by the order of Lord Jesus Christ? That is my question. Since when?

Two thousand years have passed, but to date you have not been able to not accept the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ. And you are all claiming that you are Christian. But since when did you accept Christianity? That is my question. Because as far as I can see, you have disobeyed the order of Christ. So, now that two thousand years have passed, when did you accept?

A tradition of the Church which our fathers have inherited, was the adoption of the words “cross” and “crucify”.

These words are nowhere to be found in the Greek of the New Testament. These words are mistranslations, a “later rendering”, of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. Vine’s Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says, “STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake … Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pole, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two-beamed cross.

The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea (Babylon), and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name) … By the middle of the 3rd century A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith.

In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most frequent form, with the cross piece lowered, was adopted .

Dr. Bullinger, in the Companion Bible, appx. 162, states, “crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian Sun-god … It should be stated that Constantine was a Sun-god worshipper … The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.”

None of this can make sense without appreciating that there were judaizers among the early Christians. A quick google search of “judaizers” will put you on the right track. I will provide a partial quote from gotquestions.org’s answer to the question “(W)ho were the Judaizers?”:

“In the early church, those who taught a combination of God’s grace and human effort were called “Judiazers.” The word Judaizer comes from a Greek verb meaning “to live according to Jewish customs.” The word appears in Galatians 2:14 where Paul describes how he confronted Peter for forcing Gentile Christians to Judaize.

A Judiazer taught that, in order for a Christian to truly be right with God, he must conform to the Mosaic Law. Circumcision, especially, was promoted as necessary for salvation. Gentiles had to become Jewish proselytes first, and then they could come to Christ. The doctrine of the Judiazers was a mixture of grace (through Christ) and works (through the keeping of the Law).” (Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org Judaizers.html#ixzz3e5QmnIID).

The quote is ended. Now back to the Pelican.

Not only were there judaizers, but the judaizers clearly won the battle – a battle that did not subside until well after Constantine. And judaizers, among other things, are likely to want to do things like place the Old Testament alongside the New in the Christian Bible.

Really, you can’t understand this debate without first understanding the victorious battle waged by the judaizers. And the losing battle waged on the other side by the Marcionites and others. Bishop Marcion’s followers were ascendant from circa 120-300 A.D. There is no excuse for not becoming educated about this since Amazon has several books on it. I recommend starting with “Marcion, The Gospel of the Alien God”, by Adolf Harnack. Then proceed to “The First New Testament, Marcion’s Scriptural Canon, by Jason D. BeDuhn. Those two books might well be more than enough, depending upon your goals. Among other things, you will learn:

1) Marcion wrote the book “The Antitheses”, the sole purpose of which was to juxtapose the sayings of Yawheh and Jesus for the sole purpose of highlighting their incompatibility;
2) Marcion’s Canon (his New Testament) was the first new testament ever put forth on this earth. It consists of two parts, the Apostolikon and the Evangelion.

The Apostolikon contains the writings of The Apostle (as in the reliable, trustworthy and nonjudaizing apostle) Paul. More specifically, it contains ten Epistles, each preceded by a short prologue. All the prologues are interesting and here is the one out of DeBuhn accompanying the Letter to the Galatians to whet your appetite for some research:

“Galatians are Greeks. These accepted the true teaching first from the Emissary,
but after his departure were tempted by false emissaries to turn to the Law and
to circumcision. The Emissary recalls these people to the trust of truth, writing
to them from Ephesus.”

The Evangelion is the Gospel story which bears some semblance to portions of Luke.

Writings were wild and wooly in those days, and the judaizers apparently thronged in to emend things with judaizing notions (that Yawheh was Jesus’ father, that Jesus was the jewish Messiah, that the Law still applied, etc. etc. etc.) And Marcion is alleged to have emended documents to restore them to their original states, so it was a bit of a “food fight”;

3) Jesus’ father is the true and merciful God, the God of forgiveness, love, light and beauty. He intruded into this creation to liberate us from the clutches of the Demiurge. This alien God sent his Son even into the nether regions of hell to liberate souls; and

4) The demiurge is not Satan (by most accounts) but rather a lesser god. It is said by some that Yawheh is the God of the 2nd heaven and Jesus’ father the God of the 3rd.

2 things are required: get the historical facts straight and get the thinking straight.
neither are easy but i am bothered when people don’t even bother trying.
and then they proclaim themselves jew-wise and jew-fighters.
yeah right.

The God who created this world Is not the God Jesus spoke of. Jesus doesn’t want you to worship him he want’s you to be like him. We are to love and help each other as well as the creatures that dwell here. The fallen ones rule this realm with the help of there lackey’s weather they be Jews, Wasps , Muslims, Catholics or Heathens. We have to love and trust the Universe if we want to ascend to a higher plane. Jesus said there are many rooms in the house of the lord so mind how you go or you will end up in a basement flat. The time has come to choose a side choose wisely that’s what Yoda said. The Jews are there own worst enemy ” when the blind lead the blind we all end up dead in a ditch. May the blue always protect you.

If you had a clue to who is who and the purpose of the Israelites and the deeds that those to be destroyed have committed you would have a different opinion or you would be in rebellion to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob ! What will the clay talk back to the potter ? The Jews are condemned throughout the entire Bible starting in Genesis 3:15 and to Revelation 22 ! They are not the people you think they are and the proof is in the Bible and in secular sources ! Wake up and look around the evidence is everywhere ! ! !

Who, in their right mind, would CARE about those horrible 69 books of the Bible and its so-called derivation in 1,600 years of Arab, mythical, trumped-up “history”? … And then the failed merchant, the Arab, Muhammad, had surrealistic “visions” and GOD dictated the Koran to him! CRAP!… So now we have over 3,000 years of fake Arab “history” dictating to us how we should live our lives and stage continuous wars, in which we die honorable deaths, only to be taken up to Heaven where we might meet 1,000 lustful, frustrated virgins…. The ONLY thing that is worth a cracker in this idiots’ book, loosely called THE BIBLE, is the bit about a bloke called Jesus who defied the corrupt establishment and told us that telling the TRUTH is the highest priority in LIFE. … Hence, I tell you all the REAL skeletal TRUTHS, minus all the crap! …. But I know Lasha and Monte juz lerv all the pedantic crap! …. Time for me to steer towards more honest sites!

Steer clear Max ! Steer your vehicle here or elsewhere as you or anyone else on this planet can not change this course that the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob has set ! If you do not understand the Bible ( WORD of the living God ) then you were not chosen to understand ! At least not at this time . I will tell you again those who are called Jews are not who everyone thinks they are ! The evidence is in the Bible, on your t.v., movies,history books and all around you, if you will open your eyes and SEE ! I am 57 years old and I figured it out at 27 years of age, even thou I thought so at about 18 ! I DID NOT READ THE BIBLE THROUGH UNTIL I WAS 47 ! Open your heart ,mind, ears and eyes ! If I had the time I would explain , but I doubt you would believe ! Jesus said if they believe not Moses and the Prophets neither will they believe one arose from the dead ! HONESTLY , CAN YOU NAME ANOTHER BOOK THAT IS AS ACCURATE AS THE BIBLE ? 100%

The judaizers (a.k.a. “ebionites” or “conversos”) finally won the war against the true Christian Faith after of many centuries of deceit and infiltration, and after many centuries of falsely yet successfully passing themselves off as “Christian.” It stands as a tribute to their almost super-human level of devotion to the task of usurping and perverting and interpolating their own corrosive passages directly into the heart of the Christian part of the Bible (a.k.a. The New Testament). By subverting the Christian Faith, the judaizers laid the groundwork for the eventual mass murder of the German civilian population, which came about as a direct consequence, not of one but of TWO jewish-instigated “world wars.” And that goes without even mentioning all of the subsequent massacres (masquerading as “wars”) that were (and are) pleasing – not only to the international jewish nation, but also to their legion of sycophantic toadies.

SAVE THE GOYIM
History has finally ended and the astute Yids have outfoxed the goyim. The Chinks were contenders for the throne, but the yellow skin elites jumped ship for California pussy. Yiddishia`s queen will be an alpha cum lover and the king will be a Coprophilia worshipper. Synagogues, Churches, and Mosques will be outlawed, erotic pleasures will take place only in houses made of dung.

I’d like to turn that question on its head by asking YOU to define the values of the OT lovers.

Do you believe that someone can be “transformed” or improved in some discernible way when they believe in exterminating the “other” in accordance with the dictates of “yahweh-adonoi elohaynu” a.k.a. The Anti-Christ ??

BTW …. if you think that I’m trying to put you on the spot or on the defensive you are absolutely correct.

The Conspiracy of Man. The story of Yeshu’s mission to fulfill or complete Mosaic law. Chapter four is a rewrite of the book of Genesis. While the chapter is complete, it has yet to be fully published due to editing requirements. I post each sub chapter as editing is completed. Take a read, this is the manner in which the stories would have likely been imparted to Temple initiates.

Opening to the book

Secrets of the Temple

The Twilight Zone of Reality – To Serve Man

Over forty years ago there was a Twilight Zone episode titled: “To Serve Man.” It is an eerie story about an alien race known as Kanamits. The alien beings travel to earth ostensibly to assist the human race in reaching a higher state of existence. The Kanamit exude an angel-like presence. Dressed in long, flowing, robes with a high, domed, head they seem beneficent, yet their sunken, sinister, eyes seem to belie a hidden agenda. When a Kanamit alien addresses the UN assembly telepathically, with honeyed words he promises the Kanamits come as friends.

During his address, the Kanamit representative notes how the earth is plagued by both natural and unnatural calamities and that they only wish to help resolve these problems. They offer a new power source, an end to famine, and a force field to be used as a defense shield. The Kanamit states, “We wish only that you simply trust us.” Departing the UN, the Kanamit leaves a slim book behind.

A cryptologist for the U.S. government is assigned to translate the book, which turns out to be a most difficult task. While discussing the difficulty of the translation with several army generals, his assistant rushes into the room with news that the title of the book has been deciphered. The title reads, “To Serve Man.”

As the story progresses, United Nations delegates are seen watching a film of several tests given to the Kanamit representative. These are essentially lie detector tests that prove the Kanamit are making truthful statements and the Kanamit repeats his motive of coming to earth only to offer help.

In time earth’s deserts became gardens, the armies are disbanded and the countries of the world offer their thanks for the Kanamit’s assistance. The Kanamits propose that the people of earth begin reciporical visits to their planet to see how the Kanamits achieve their wonders and before long people are standing in line to board Kanamit spaceships. Before boarding the Kanamit ships the human travelers are weighed and chat about the upcoming space voyage events as if embarking on a grand vacation.

The cryptologist and his assistant discuss recent events and note that there are no more codes to decipher, that nearly 2000 Kanamits are now on earth, and how easily man decides to go off to a strange planet. In fact, they are both on a waiting list to go. Although the cryptologist has long since given up on deciphering the book, his assistant states that she is still working on it and getting close to a translation.

Finally the cryptologist has his number called and begins boarding the spaceship, but as he is ascending the steps, his assistant rushes up and tries to push through the crowd while yelling desperately to get his attention. As the assistant is held back by the Kanamits she screams, “Don’t get on the ship! The book – To Serve Man – IT’S A COOKBOOK!”

This website is about a similar book that comes from ancient times. Like the Kanamit’s book, the Bible seemingly promises great things for mankind, but has a much different meaning when properly deciphered. Like the Kanamit’s book, the Old Testament is in fact a cookbook, a book of recipes explaining how to use criminal techniques to extract wealth and power from other peoples and nations.

The esoteric language in which the Bible is written effectively hides the true agenda of the book and like the people who board the spaceships embracing the Kanamit’s message without understanding the true motive, the Bible is embraced by people around the world as their salvation without properly decoding the meaning. Ironically those who most strongly profess their belief in this book and claim salvation from it, often know little or nothing of its history, nor anything of the people who wrote it.

This is the story not of the Kanamits, but of the kohanim; the Temple priests with long flowing robes who promised great things from their god, but only delivered misery and suffering via their bloody sacrificial system. The Conspiracy of Man is the story of Yeshu’s mission to bring down the kohanim (priests) onerously oppressive sacrificial system and their Mikdash (Temple).

Notes to the reader

The premise of this story is quite simple, but like other historical incidents, and Jewish historical incidents in particular, it is long and convoluted. One might say – the devil is in the details. Christian mythology holds that Jesus, Yeshu, popped out of nowhere to save mankind from sin, but that is absurd. Yeshu was a man whose story is framed in a very real time and a place and it’s the background of that time and place that tells the real story.

Far from being a deity who dropped by to save everyone from their sins, Yeshu was a man on a mission. A son of man literally bred for his mission. Like other notable men in history his story begins long before his birth. To understand this story one must relive those times and think like those people. One must understand their motivations, which are not unlike the motivations of other historical figures. This story takes one into those times where people lived within the same physical constraints we know today.

Magic and mysticism have at best a minimal place in history and the few who today have witnessed the type commonly claimed in the Bible are largely dismissed as delusional. Yeshu’s story has very little magic and mysticism. It is the story of a real man, in a real place, at a real time, addressing a very real problem.

A group of jewish men were standing in the court of Confucius, ruminating in silence on the problem of how to mass exterminate the goyim, when all of a sudden one of their number finally spoke up.

It was the voice of the great jewish sage, Maimonides or “Rambam.”

“With all due respect, sir,” the great jewish sage began. “The jews are gods chosen people, and we are absolutely sick and tired of being persecuted. Am I making myself clear ?? Now please be kind enough to tell us why you insist on persecuting us, and more specifically, I was hoping that you could tell us why you hate our laws and our sacred torah and the Old Testament, which is the foundation of all morality ?”

Confucius sat there rubbing his chin for a brief moment.

“Let me see,” he said. “Why do I object to the Old Testament ?? I object to the Old Testament for the same reason that most normal citizens object to the idea of rape and pillage and mass murder.”

Franklin,
I was going to reply to you on the previous thread. Please accept my apologies for the delay as I have been extremely busy.
Firstly, the Psalms were probably written over many centuries, as you said, including the times before the Kingdom of Judah. The Psalms I mentioned are allegorical and should not be taken literally e.g. Psalm 24. “Lift up your heads, O Ye gates and be ye lift up ye everlasting doors: and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.”
Remember the religions of the Hebrews and Christians are oriental and orientals love using allegory. Take the Bhagavad Gita, a literal reading of that would indicate Krishna encouraging Arjuna to go out and slay all the Pandavas. However it is an allegory for the battle of one”s soul and how to free oneself. In other words the Pandavas are one’s own inner enemies and like all our vices and defilements, one is reluctant to give them up. So read the Psalms I mentioned allegorically, as one would read the Gita, and one will find they make a lot of spiritual sense. Of course one must ignore all the barbaric claptrap that comprises most of the OT.
As I have already mentioned, I am a Buddhist and follow the Theravada school. Therefore I believe in rebirth as did the Christianity for its first 500 years, before the teaching was banned by the Emperor Justinian. I have posted links in previous threads about this matter. So as a Buddhist I believe, if one PRACTISED and MEDITATED DAILY on the Psalms I mentioned, or the Sermon on the Mount, one would achieve Stream Entry, Sotapatti-magga in Pali. This means one will achieve Nibbana in 7 births. Remember spiritual realisation is beyond words which is why most of the great teachings use allegory to attempt to explain what is essentially ineffable. So when one becomes a Sotapanna, stream winner, things happen automatically. As Christians say, God is the driver.

Buddhist meditation is not meditation on words of texts, no matter as how “sacred” they may be considered. Buddhist meditation is a kind of transcendental attention for which an expedient such as concentration on the breath may be used. The Buddha reached all his transcendental stages by concentrating on the breath (ānapānasati). Texts, words, concepts, all belong to the realm of the intellect which is exactly what has to be transcended. Reading beautiful texts may indeed be inspiring (like listening to beautiful music) but it cannot give liberation.

For a Theosophical understanding of the stages of liberation, go to : The First Principles of Theosophy.pdf, by Jinarajadasa : Chapter XV, The Path of Discipleship (pages 277-294) The stages sotāpanna, sakadāgāmi, anāgāmi, arhat and asekha are on page 286.

Franklin
I realise Buddhist meditation is not about words. I do practice Anapanasiti, daily. However, someone who is not a Buddhist can use the Psalms, prayers or mantras as a first step on the path to enlightenment and achieve a favourable rebirth. I have also studied Vipassana, or awareness meditation, but unless one has an excellent teacher, it can lead to psychosis. In fact, the Bangkok papers occasionally report on such matters. I was very lucky as I had a very good meditation master who regularly brought me “down to earth” by continually exhorting me about the dangers of spiritual pride and to not seek to use any of the psychic powers that accrue from such practices.
Regards to you, too. BTW, I type on a tablet so I apologise for not using proper puctuation for the Pali.

it means that Old Testamentarians are a happy, well adjusted bunch and the rest of us are losers and for this we will have our little ones dashed against rocks by the Real, not Counterfeit jews.

Or maybe the Counterfeit ones will join in the fun, not too sure …
either way, Old T has some nice passages, like about Bambi and the butterflies, or the romantic ones about some Jewess’s bazookas, why focus on the violent stuff unless Ye Be He-Man Who Shirks Not From Duty By Rivers Of Babylon?

“Happy is he who takes their little ones and dashes them against the stones.”

I agree with you absolutely that this quote from the Psalms is a bad thing to say. Quite shocking. By no stretch of the imagination can it be described as an “allegory”. I would describe it simply as a DEFECT and argue that it ought not to be said.

Unlike certain illogical and extremely anti-Semitic people on this website — I’m not referring to you, Carlos, so relax! — people who believe that anything produced by a Jew has to be evil, and who therefore condemn the entire Old Testament root and branch, I would argue that a beautiful garden ought not to be destroyed because of a few poisonous weeds within it.

If the OT were full of evil passages like this on every page, like a wild garden overrun with weeds, destroying the whole garden and starting again from scratch might indeed be a good idea. But there is no evil in the Book of Ecclesiastes. There is no evil in the Book of Job. So anyone who advocates the destruction of these noble books and many others like them, books replete with wisdom and beauty, is quite simply a fanatic.

He may be a highly intelligent person, but like so many intelligent people he nevertheless has a few screws loose.

If you have a potentially cancerous mole on you leg, you have the mole removed. Excised. That is the moderate approach, advised by all physicians. This wouldn’t be enough for a fanatic though. He would demand the amputation of the entire leg.

Anyone who attempts to rubbish the entire Old Testament on the strength of its admitted defects, its “cancerous moles”, has to be a fanatic in the same way.

Nothing written and translated through so many cultures should ever be taken as fact. Nothing written even in medieval times has much worth based on present culture norms and values. Word meanings are nearly useless. Allegory is misconstrued and totally worthless.

‘Gay’ ain’t ‘happy’ no more. And ‘happy’ ain’t ‘gay’ to English Speaking People today.

That’s an interesting and difficult verse. I came to a rather reasonable answer from Swedenborg. Stones are truths, Jesus said speaking of himself – upon this rock I will build my church. Dashing little ones against a stone is driving them to see truths (sorry can’t quote Swedenborg word for word but it’s close)

First let me say that I am not an Old Testament hater. I do not hate books. I just find some books are not worth my attention because there is nothing to be learned from them or they are intentionally misleading. I concluded that the Old Testament is one of those books after I researched the the teachings of Jesus in the four Gospels. As one of my friends says occasionally, if what was going on in the Old Testament was the right thing to do, Jesus would have called for a great party in celebration of what had occurred. But, he did just the opposite.

I believe that God is an absolute, not because of the stories in the Old Testament, but because of what Jesus taught and demonstrated about the love of God. I also believe what the Apostle John said about God being love, so I also believe that love is an absolute as well.

I believe that Jesus is the absolute Son of God because he walked the walk of what he taught. I believe that Jesus was always with God and that Jesus, being also known as the Word, actually created everything as God directed per the Apostle John.

I believe that the first Two Commandments according to Jesus, are the law and the prophets as he said, the First Commandment of “Love God with all your heart, soul, etc.” and the Second Commandment of “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” The Second Commandment is not in the original Ten in Exodus. You can’t go wrong practicing these Commandments so they would be absolute as well.

I believe the Word is absolute. I believe that God gave us access to the power of the Word, verbal commands with faith, to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out devils, and control the physical world. I have personally witnessed healing and have done some myself. I have three friends that have raised the dead with very qualified medical witnesses. I control the physical world on a regular basis for my protection and the protection of those around me. I am not bragging, quite the contrary. All I do is make the commands and Jesus does the work. If I can use it, anyone can. I am not special and certainly not “chosen.”

I believe that life after death is an absolute as Jesus demonstrated. That does not mean that everyone has a pleasant experience after death.

None of the absolutes, truths, I have mentioned can be learned from the Old Testament, but they can all be learned from the teachings of Jesus in the four Gospels. When Jesus said that he was the way, the truth, and the life, he was very serious and addressing the solution to all problems.

This might be more than you wanted to know. I was as brief as I could be.

Thank you, Arch Stanton, that is basically what I say in the above short comment! Arch: “It is the story of a real man, in a real place, at a real time, addressing a very real problem.” …. Yeah, and I’ll say it a million times: The real baddies have won; as the truthsayer, Melvin, truly states: “History has finally ended and the astute Yids have outfoxed the Goyim.” ….. YESHU HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM IN 2,000 YEARS; in fact it is much worse!!!!! …. OUTFOXED! …. SHYLOCKED YOU ALL! ….Hail the VICTORIOUS JEWS! …. (THE YID/JEWISH POWER OVER THE PLANET, VIA MONEY AND GOLD, IS THE PROBLEM!!!!)
Yeah, the Gentiles exist as slaves in 2015 AD! As I said 2 posts ago, most Goyim just lerv the Jewish, master people’s POWER! …. Arch Stanton makes one of the most relevant points I have read on Darkmoon, so get it into your artsy-fartsy, airy, faery-brained heads: “The Conspiracy of Man is the story of Yeshu’s mission to bring down the kohanim (priests) onerously oppressive sacrificial system and their Mikdash (Temple).” … Obviously, so far, Yeshu has FAILED as the evil JEWS hold sway everywhere, even with ISIL and most of the merchant, Muhammad’s lame-brained followers! …. And what’s more, MOST Goyim just lerv the feral, virus-infested, ass-hole Jews! …. Malachi 4: 5 – the second last entry in the Old Testament: “I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.” …. Yeah, it’s going to be a “dreadful day” for all the Jewish scum and the 95% plus of pseudo-Christians and Muslims who inadvertently support them! …. I think the dreadful day will commence the proceedings of the great extermination pogrom when all the bad of heart and mind get thrown in the dreaded “lake of fire.” I.e. Huge ovens/incinerators! … I will be helping them in, with a smile on my face! >>> I might even collect the gold from their pussies and teeth, etc! … IT IS TIME FOR THE FEW CHRISTIANS LEFT TO START THE FIGHT-BACK IN EARNEST, USING ANY TACTICS YOU LIKE! … The Jews have seen to it that there are no longer any rule books! …. Oh yeah, our “real problem”? We are being culled, poisoned, turned into slaves/paupers, having our white asses kicked, robbed, raped and abused in every way possible by George Soros and his Illuminati-Jewish comrades in arms! And, basically, we DO NOTHING! ….At least I have destroyed Jewish business “associates” and always cuff any Jew I see over the ears! Plus I abuse Melvin’s cum-bucket, Jewish whores in the lobbies and in hotel bedrooms!

Similarly, in Old Testament the term ‘God’s grace’ has also a meaning totally different from the one we commonly imagine, associating “grace” with the Greco-Roman statues of Three Graces of Charm, of Beauty and of Creativity. For Bible writers, including Saul from Tarsus, later on known under noble Roman name of Paul, “men in god’s grace” were these ones – including S/P/aul himself – which by cheating, false accusations and even secret murders, robbed others from their good names and undeniable achievements: Jacob come to the Grace of God once he extorted family heritage from his elder brother Esau, while Moses become highly appreciated by LORD once his folk, prior to Exodus, successfully despoiled Egyptians from their sacral vessels and cloths. The self-appointed apostle S/P/aul in all evidence until now remains in “god’s grace ”. This thanks to his skillful arrangement of the stoning of Christian leader Stephen, and than demanding even greater talent, an imposition of himself at the vacant post of a leader of “Hellenizing” fraction of Christian community. Seeing activities of S/P/aul in this “Luciferic” manner, the abundant in his “Letters” invocations to Love and Morality turn into ordinary, :god blessed” deceptions practiced in ‘Three Thousand Years War for Subjugation of Gentiles’. In one phrase of his “Letter to Romans” 11: 6, S/P/aul honestly admits that he is “one of these seven thousand which didn’t bowed the knee to Baal”. And “Baal” for this pious Israelite was all the Greco-Roman philosophy dominant at that time in Jerusalem too. In particular there was hated the lacking of personified god Aristotelism and “godless” Epicureism. Both these Athenian “heresies” become suppressed for more than thousand years by Christian clergy marching in footsteps of its benefactor S/P/aul..

Thanks to ‘mission to Gentiles’ of this Wandering Kuppler (to say it euphemistically) of GoG”, the virus of idea of Earth total domination passed into minds of Christians, especially Protestant ones, which started the glorious Industrial Revolution. Following the Judeo-Christian “straight road” of greedy imitators, Charles Darwin become a “pleasant in eyes of God” naturalist, for he has robbed Lamarck from the primacy in elaborating Theory of Evolution, thus completely perverting its initial understanding; later on Albert Einstein become famous once he stripped both Italian Olinto di Pretto and Frenchmen Henri Poincaré from primacy in establishing of a formula m =mc2, Einstein even got a Nobel Prize of Peace for his undeniable contribution to the elaboration of American Atomic Bomb – a device which so splendidly helped USA to become the global Super Power.”

Magnus Dux Polonorum
June 26, 2015 at 11:38 am
“In his view, Paul/Saul was the main judaizer of the NT.”

Paul was among the principle emancipators of the gentiles. In his Epistles, Paul actually placed the gentiles on an even keel with the jews. No doubt the jews have always hated Paul with a burning passion, because he took away their special “chosen” status. The true judaizers are mostly anonymous figures whose names are mostly unknown to all except for the most erudite.

Pardon me the frankness, but it just seems to me, you haven’t given this enough thought.
Has the question ever occured to you, why the most ardent, combatant anti-Christian (anti-Gentile) Pharisee – Saul/Paul – suddently, of of the blue, simply overnight, becomes the very opposite? Either his devotion to Pharisaism was very superficial (which we know from history it was not – it was like killing Gentiles/Christians was his life-passion), OR — his “conversion” was only ostensible, a fake, and he remained a crypto-Jew (“marrano”) so he could then hijack Christianity and distort it, so as to make it suit the Judaics’ agenda.

May I therefore ask, what was so unappropriate about my comment that it had to be censored?
P.S. It would be very kind of “Monitor” if he let the given commenator know, when his/her comment is being blocked, so the latter does not have to worry. Thank you.

It is not the monitor’s job to discuss why a comment is deleted. He doesn’t have time for endless postmortems. Sometimes a comment is deleted unfairly because the monitor is human and is being needlessly fussy. Or because the commenter has annoyed the monitor on a previous occasion.

The use of the word “censorship” is itself offensive. It is a derogatory term that suggests we are suppressing important information. We don’t do that. We are trying to restrict the activities of trolls, time wasters, and egomaniacal attention seekers like TheRealOriginalJoe. Swatting a mosquito is not “censorship”. It’s getting rid of a dangerous pest.

Deuteronomy 7:1-6 would be appropriate for Bohemian Grove, would it not? Unless, of course you were a Satanist. Even the fooled could see how The Law would apply to such an abomination. I have to agree with Gilbert on this one. No use wasting words on those in the nursery.

I view the article as an infantile cry against God, Who the blind cannot find any delight in.

To those, such as Melvin P. and Max B. (truly anti-Semite buddies); your days are numbered, but an eternity in hell-fire will have no end.

Maybe we don’t hate the Old Testament. Maybe it just puts us to sleep. Ever consider that? I mean, it does make for some of the most boring reading you can find. That can’t be denied. Well, I guess it could be denied, but only by Harold Camping and Fr. John ; And Camping kicked the bucket a few years back, and Fr. John ascended into heaven soon after he retired his sermon blog. Sure, Lasha likes some parts of the OT. She likes Solomon. That’s cause she dreams of being a sexy, hot babe putting on an exotic belly-dancing show for big shots surrounded by glitz, that’s all. She wants to be glamorous, like most of the girls next door dream of being glamour dames in Hollywood.

Anyone who can figure out who is who amongst the Middle Eastern tribes of 5,000 years ago — more power to you. Good for you. As for us average Americans, it’s enough work trying to figure out who is who amongst the Middle Eastern tribes today in real time, let alone trying to figure and sort out the habirus of 5,000 years ago. It’s a bit much.

The WHO IS WHO is the same today as it was back then and will never change ! Genesis 3:15 starts it off and continues throughout HIS – story in the Bible ! The enmity that the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob put between these 2 people is what is going on in this world and is all that matters ! All others are judged on their interaction with these 2 peoples ! Their is not , nor could their ever be anything such as Judeo – Christian ! That is why the evil ones are winning the battle as they have most believing that they are the people of the book , but are imposter’s !The Bible states that the children of darkness are smarter than the children of light ! Luke 16:8 Read the ( UNCONDITIONAL PROMISES ) written in the old testament that you hate and see who has fulfilled these promises to a T and you will know who the children of light are ! ( NO THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE ALL DOING RIGHT ) Look at the countries that are being over run by third world immigrants and you have a start in the here and now ! Are third world countries targeted for mass immigration ? I think not ! Spiritually the children of darkness are split in 2 main groups of Jews and Jesuits ! ( yes a million sub groups I know ) Many of the children of light have joined the other side for their own greed ! The ONLY thing that could change anything would be to take back our money , obey the Ten Commandments and obey the 4th Commandment of true Sabbath worship in all OUR countries ! ( it is the only Commandment where God says he will have RESPECT unto man ) Other than that ( and only a delay ) the only way this evil can be stopped is by the return of Jesus the Christ and Son of the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob !

the following is the excerpt from The Essene Gospel of Peace III (translated from Aramaic by purcell weaver and edmond Szekely) and because it abhors killing can be safely skipped by the lantern jawed adherents of Old Testament (do not question the Law, just obey blindly, this is the essence of militant virtue that rabbis always insist on, eg, the Destruction of Amalek).

i find the following words exceptionally powerful because in “thou shall not kill”, this Essene Teacher extends them to slaughter of animals and consumption of their flesh (HOMER, this one is for you)

Jesus answered: “Be it so according to your faith,” and he sat down among them, saying:

“It was said to them of old time, ‘Honour thy Heavenly Father and thy Earthly Mother, and do their commandments, that thy days may be long upon the earth.’ And next afterward was given this commandment, ‘Thou shalt not kill,’ for life is given to all by God, and that which God has given, let not man take away. For I tell you truly, from one Mother proceeds all that lives upon the earth. Therefore, he who kills, kills his brother. And from him will the Earthly Mother turn away, and will pluck from him her quickening breasts. And he will be shunned by her angels, and Satan will have his dwelling in his body. And the flesh of slain beasts in his body will become his own tomb. For I tell you truly, he who kills, kills himself, and whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death. For in his blood every drop of their blood turns to poison; in his breath their breath to stink; in his flesh their flesh to boils; in his bones their bones to chalk; in his bowels their bowels to decay; in his eyes their eyes to scales; in his ears their ears to waxy issue. And their death will become his death. For only in the service of your Heavenly Father are your debts of seven years forgiven in seven clays. But Satan forgives you nothing and you must pay him for all. ‘Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot; burning for burning, wound for wound; life for life, death for death.’ For the wages of sin is death. Kill not; neither eat the flesh of your innocent prey, lest you become the slaves of Satan.

tough going, eh, torahcites?
what are the 7 laws compared to the sole law of compassion?

in the above quote is his entire ministry, this is the New And Only Testament.

“But for a human being that violence should be committed only as much as necessary” : Thanks for this HP, I hate being made to feel guilty for eating, and I agree with those who say that every living thing is prescious. All forms of life are little miracles, which should be a source of wonder..

re. god, and jesus, I`m not an unbeliever, I just was never able to work out what to believe, have trouble believing things I cannot see, or hear, but, regarding jesus, I find it pretty amazing, that someone so humble, has retained so many followers for so many years..

Yes, Pat. The OT has been MERCHANDIZED by those upon whom will descend the wrath of God. Consider Jesus’ words at Matthew 23:13-15. His repeated exclamation is ‘hypocrites!’ against those ‘scribes and Pharisees’ (who have used and twisted the whole Bible!) who have misled people. As it once was, it now is – and will continue in that sequence until understanding is achieved by whomever the ‘remnant’ is a designation.

The Old Testament is (besides being an accounting of Israel) a pretty much comprehensive description of the highs and lows of human activity, contrasted to the divinity of the Creator. Through Isaiah, He, Himself, portrays our incomplete ability to UNDERSTAND – and that, itself, should give us pause to reflect. (see Isaiah 55:7-13)

Worldwide, we all have the same Creator in common. Worldwide, we all have many differences – and will achieve Heaven or Hell as a result of the free will He affords us.

Micah 6:8 reads ‘He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?’

That is not so much to ask from One without Whose assent you could not even draw another breath; AND, I believe it is understandable, from Orient to Occident.

Were there no ‘Creator’, there would be no ‘Deceiver’. Even Satan (the deceiver) is told to be a creation of God. The thing about being ‘God’ is that He can do whatever-the-hell He wants. We CAN’T. (Does that piss you off, Pat?? 🙁 ) (It certainly troubled ol’ Satan!)

God is smarter than all of us. He is the ‘Way’, the ‘Tao’. How we find Peace is to seek Him. Jesus came to show us. It has been spelled-out to us in many languages and religions – but most of us are just dumb cattle who need to be prodded (often with a shock stick!).

A few years after Darwin’s theory of evolution was published, some Confederate soldiers were sitting around camp discussing it… One of them was ogling its truths. Another said it HAD to be hogwash, because, he KNEW that Marse Robert ‘WEREN’T NO ANIMAL!!’. 🙂

This is spot on. It would not hurt for us to consider why our Lord would refer to us as sheep. I have heard that if you put a stick in front of a lamb he will jump over it. And then every other sheep that will follow will also jump at that point even after you have removed the stick.

Why we hate crypto jews. Greece, Alexis has Caved – Tax Hikes, Pension Cuts, the Whole Jew Deal. I guess everyone knew he would cave soon enough. But the media portrayed for a minute there, he was opposing the IMF et al.

Reuters:

” Greece’s leftwing government expressed confidence on Tuesday that parliament would approve a debt deal with lenders, despite an angry reaction from some of its own lawmakers who accused it of caving in to pressure for more austerity.

Concessions offered by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, including hikes to tax and PENSION contributions, garnered a cautious welcome from euro zone leaders but triggered a furious reaction from some leftists in the ruling Syriza party.

One lawmaker said the deal was tantamount to a “tombstone” for Greece, after repeated rounds of austerity during five years of crisis. Deputy parliament speaker and Syriza lawmaker Alexis Mitropoulos said the concessions were “not in line with the principles of the left” and would cause “social carnage”.

Take a look at the picture at the bottom of the article. All in it together.

Historical evidence points to Constantine as the one who had the major share in uniting Sun-worship and the Messianic Faith. Constantine’s famous vision of “the cross superimposed on the sun”, in the year 312, is usually cited. Writers, ignorant of the fact that the cross was not to be found in the New Testament Scriptures, put much emphasis on this vision as the onset of the so-called “conversion” of Constantine. But, unless Constantine had been misguided by the Gnostic Manichean half-Christians, who indeed used the cross in their hybrid religion, this vision of the cross superimposed on the sun could only be the same old cosmic religion, the astrological religion of Babylon. The fact remains: that which Constantine saw, is nowhere to be found in Scripture.

Greeks are living on the reservation just like Brits, Aussies and Americans….. etc.

Those who understand the ins, and outs, of the Greek crisis, have all said that the Greeks should cut their losses, and walk away from the whole EU circus. I haven`t been holding my breath, just kept hoping these were good guys, with the best interests of their people at heart. It is sad to think that they are just another bunch of power hungry yahoos..

Check your Spam folder. I sent in a comment this morning under this OT thread. It’s languishing. It doesn’t deserve to languish in obscurity as I made some legitimate points. Nor did I bad-mouth any darkmooner, not really. I came close but I didn’t follow thru. No darkmooners were harmed in typing my post that now languishes in spam obscurity.

How come no one, and I do mean NO ONE, how come no one ever corrects the online Nazis when the online Nazis label Christianity the “jew on a stick” religion? Nazis always call Christianity the “jew on a stick” religion, not once in all the years I’ve been reading the “jew wise” media has anyone, and I do mean NO ONE, how come NO ONE ever corrects the online Nazis when they falsely and mendaciously label Christianity the “jew on a stick” religion.

Hey Pat, do you plan to go to all the Nazi websites in the “jew wise” media and correct the online Nazis all the time they erroneously, mendaciously, in great falsity, label Christianity the “jew on a stick” religion? How about starting with Chechar, Pat? That would be a good starting point to disseminate and inculcate your religious history lesson. What are you going to label Christianity now, now that you gave us your religious history lesson, Christianity is the “jew on the sun” religion? Go tell it to Chechar. He has more patience than I do, kinda, kinda-sorta.

Posted on Aangirfan ‘Evangelicals… Mossad’ today.
How about: ‘Through the praise of children and infants you have established a stronghold against your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger.’ Ps 8:2.
The God you don’t believe in and hate – the image portrayed – we get and of course neither believe in, or would follow. The OT (and the new), read through Jesus on the alternate, shares common ground with all who fight and stand against all we truly hate and must defeat.
Progressive revelation (for God) and in an OT context we can barely imagine, if not understood, makes it easy to pop at this God-claim. I couldn’t be happier at the harder they come attacks. It’s all gist for the mill. Thank you, Mark.

I don’t care if you flush my post about “lobro + long sentence+ dark side of the moon” post down the toilet. I do care and I do want to see my ” Maybe we don’t hate the OT, maybe it just puts us to sleep” post on the commentary board. Plus, I want my reply to Pat to be up on the commentary board. “Christianity is the jew-on-the-sun religion” comment/post in reply to Pat. I think I wrote another post today, but I can’t remember. In that case, it wasn’t very important and I don’t care if you flush it down the toilet. I want my reply to Pat up on the commentary board, and my “OT maybe puts us to sleep” post on the commentary board.

Uncle will put the posts I sent him today on the commentary board right after Uncle is finished sucking bagels out the jew troll assholes like Phil, lobro, Pat, Max from Oz, Gilby, et. al.. Which means it’s going to be real long time, possibly & probably never, my posts will most likely not be appearing on the commentary board. How Uncle LERVS to suck bagels outta jew butthole. That’s cause Uncle is a fuckin’ jew hebe also.

I don’t put polatnick in the jew troll category exactly, that’s because at least polatnick is honest about being a jew, unlike all the DM jews pretending to be “NON jews” , jew hebe Uncle is sucking bagels out their jew assholes.

who is the head head mechanic on duty tonight over there, we have a situation with unit labeled “joe”, warranty expired so we are on our own.
a blown gasket and oil leaking pretty seriously, i smell burning insulation.
dialing nine-one-one, i repeat, dialing nine-one-one … nynj-ony-unygh …

$119 for THAT!?
i don’t think so, even if ellie offers to buy it for me.
a brazilian jew teaches math at canadian university … how shrewd.
can’t figure out if he is a real jew or a counterfeit one, need to ask the resident expert.
i guess he is a prime jew.
and selling the world’s most boring book for $119.

potalnick would burst with pride, maybe work in some torah and sell it to kabbalah/OT wannabes, never short of these.

anyway, looks like uncle toby recalled joe back to the shop for some emergency repairs, he’ll be lurching around aimlessly for couple of days, giant bandaid covering the burnt out part of the head until the replacement lid and rivets arrive by ups.

Posting as ALEX LINDER (I’ve been listening to him for the past few days and I believe he is right about Christianity being incompatible with White Nationalism… and by extrapolation, it is also incompatible with any other racial forms of Nationalism, i.e., Chinese Nationalism, though I was raised a Christian. If you are on Team Christian then you are on Team Jew is Linder’s implacable position in a nutshell.)

“All Christians ever do is to degrade the intellectual level of whatever he’s participating in because idiots love bandying about Bible verses. Like I said, it’s a turd dipped in chocolate, a Semitic turd… and then the Anglo White man wrote it up in pretty language so that it has a meritorious appeal of good poetry in a lot of places. But at its heart it is dark turd; it came out of a kike.” — Alex Linder

JUSTICE FOR CHINESE
Moses and Jesus have been entangled for centuries. They are both celebrated hero`s and are always mentioned in Synagogues and Churches. My Yiddish speaking ancestors never worshipped Moses. They survived by selling family bibles with a golden cross on its cover. My grandparent and five children entered the US through Ellis island. They continued their family bible selling business and posed as devout worshippers of Jesus. When short of cash I knock on doors saying: Bless the Lord, before attempting to sell a fancy Christian Bible.

You speak the truth. I know the story well. Yids mock Christians at every chance and even make Academy Award motion pictures about it. In 1960, the epitome of the American male, Burt Lancaster, was deliberately miscast as the bible-thumping Charlatan. He even had to learn how to sing for the part, which made him effeminate, though with Lancaster everything he did was hyper-masculine. It was not his best role. The joos wanted to kill 2 birds with one stone in “Elmer Gantry.” They love mocking goyim. Evil Jews!

There are a lot of extremely virulent Anti Christians in the “jew-wise” media. They hate Christianity — don’t want anything to do with it. Heap tons of scorn and disdain on any Christian that comes around. They call Christianity the “jew-on-the-stick” religion, some claim Christianity was stolen from pagan gods and pagan religions, etc. etc.. Yet, very same extremely virulent Anti Christians in the “jew-wise” media NEVER NEVER NEVER hassle “Brother” Nathanael Kapner the Christian priest, not even in the least bit. Never hassle him, always welcome him when he comes around, encourage us to listen to every word the Christian priest says, encourage us to watch all of his videos, encourage us to revere “Brother” Nathanael Kapner. Yet, the jew was never even baptized into the Christian faith — let alone is he a Christian priest : the jew pretends to be something he’s NOT, yet the very same virulently ANTI Christian types in the “jew-wise” media are constantly encouraging us to revere their “Brother” Nathanael Kapner.

That virulently ANTI Christian types who are also virulently ANTI Jew types [ for the most part ] constantly encourage us to revere a jew who pretends to be a Christian, not just a Christian layman mind you, but a “Christian” “priest” — which is called LYING, jew LYING, Jew mendacity, jew poseur, all the things that the Anti Christians and Anti Jew types are supposedly so savvy and alert to, Jew LIARS and Jew LYING — they make such a big stink about themselves being able to spot Jew lying and jew trolls a mile away, yet they encourage us to revere a jew who pretends to be a Christian. They hate both Jews and Christians, but simultaneously encourage us to revere a Jew pretending to be a Christian : This is all so wrong and all so convoluted and all so cognitive dissonant and all so reeks of jew head games, it’s a total assault on logic, a true head game if there ever was a head game.

@TheRealOriginalJoe:
The problem with Bro Nat is that he is like Controlled Opposition. He tells you jews are evil and responsible for the mess, and because he is now an Orthodox Christian, we should unite behind Putin who is probably a pretend Orthodox Christian (cryto-jew) because like Bro Nat, Putin represents good vs. the evil West or evil jews. Thus Bro Nat tells the truth (partly), but he fails to tell you that jews are also behind and control Putin as well. If you make a comment that exposes more truth than Bro Nat is willing to reveal, your comment is not posted for viewing. I learned this myself when I hammered him with where and who as jews were involved in many areas. Because I gave more info than Bro Nat was willing to state, my comment was never posted for view. The only saving grace about Bro Nat is that he asks for donations all the time, whereas Alex Jones gets paid to dis and mis inform to fear-monger with the truth. Thanks, Norbert

You wrote “The Torah would defeat the enemy.” You would be correct if you could roll the Torah up very tightly and convince the enemy not to resist as you beat them to death with it.

If the Torah was a solution, Jesus’ message would have simply been to “see the Torah.” That is not what he did. The Torah is not what he taught.

Since you seem to be obsessed with the Torah being a solution and real jews versus counterfeit jews, you might want to start a new kind of synagogue for only real jews. All you would have to do is find some real jews to attend which would not be easy. Read the first two or three chapters of Isaiah to find out the characteristic of the real jews, the tribe of Judah, at the time of Isaiah. Amazingly, you would discover that they have the same nasty characteristics as the counterfeit jews of today. No way to tell them apart so there is no solution with real jews and a new synagogue would be empty.

No, Jesus was not a real jew. Jesus was the Son of God, the great I AM, before Abraham as he said. There were no jews before Abraham or even before Jacob. In the Gospels he was referred to as the son of David, a jew, to which Jesus asked them how that could be since David called him Lord. There is a lot of other scriptural evidence that says Jesus was not a real jew, but it requires a little research and rational thought.

Apparently, you have a problem with my posts by referring to me as Disingenuous because I am dedicated to the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels and am attempting, with some success, to do what Jesus told us to do, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out devils, and control the non-living physical world. It appears that you think that I am lying. Is it because you are not having any success at doing what Jesus said to do so you think that those that do are deceitful? Since doing these things are not in the Torah you cherish above all else, I guess I understand your position. As long as you hold to your obsession with the Torah over the Gospels, I am glad that we disagree.

You said, “Since you seem to be obsessed with the Torah being a solution and real jews versus counterfeit jews, you might want to start a new kind of synagogue for only real jews.”

More rudeness and sarcasm from one who is following The Way?! I seek no synagogue, or church building for that matter. I’ve been pointing out the necessity of knowing them; defeating THEM. They are counterfeits. They are Babylonian Satan worshippers. Get it?

You said, “Jesus was not a real jew.”

Yes and no. The body he used was a racial jew (Judahite). He / The Being was not from Abraham or even from the planet Earth. He came to earth from heaven where Father RULES.

What makes you disingenuous is your attitude towards The Torah / The Old Testament because The Way of The Lord includes both (the Old and New). Jesus followed BOTH. He observed the Sabbaths, The Passover, The Feast of Weeks and Feast of Tabernacles. He did not do so because He was a Jew. He said He did ONLY The Will of The Father. So, The Will of The Father must be that those Days are honored. Explained in The Old Testament. Reading portions of The Bible then discarding other portions is a bad idea.

Jesus said, “A NEW COMMANDMENT I GIVE YOU”. John 13:34. The second New Commandment is found in Matthew 7:1. Judgment belongs to God and His Judgements by which men are to be judged are His Judgements and written in The Torah / The Law, to which Jesus has told us to refer. STOP making things up and being so “Disingenuous”. If you would actually take a look at The Laws, you would find The Law is in EXACT opposition to what counterfeit-jews / banksters are doing to steal money / resources from the people. It protects from THEM.

To LD – if you lack control of the site, then why is it called ‘Darkmoon’? If someone else is pulling the strings, why hide behind you; a woman? Why allow them? Shame on them.

Dear New Song,

You are welcome to express your views here, but please try and understand that your ideological opponents — i.e. the commenters you regard as “evil” and wish to see banned — have an equal right to express their views. It so happens that Lasha Darkmoon, like yourself, likes and approves of the Old Testament. But she feels very strongly that the Old Testament haters on this site (such as Lobro and Franklin Ryckaert) should be given a free platform to express their views without being vilified as “evil.” At the most, assuming that you and Lasha are right about the OT, the OT haters are misguided. And you need to try harder to convert them to your viewpoint.

You ask why this site is named after Lasha Darkmoon if she lacks control of the site. Well, the simple reason for this is that the site was initially a poetry site devoted exclusively to the publication of Lasha’s poems. It was therefore fitting that the domain name chosen for the site should contain the name “Darkmoon.” It was only later on, and very gradually, that the site morphed into a full-fledged political forum. It follows that the views of all the disparate writers are their own views and that Lasha Darkmoon cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be held responsible for views expressed here by John Kaminski (for example) who happens to be anti-Christian as well as a seasoned Old Testament basher.

Lasha is now simply a contributor to this site, no more. She has no editorial control. Nor does she wish for such control. Her own past articles and poems have actually been deleted without consulting her. Her powers are zero. That’s what she wants: zero power. She believes that power corrupts.

You are also wrong to believe that Admin, or those who “pull the strings” behind this site, are “evil” for allowing Kaminski and Franklin Ryckaert and Lobro to speak their minds here without censorship. If we banned all the commenters you disapprove off, dear New Song, we would end up with no commenters at all — except your good self!

The 60 million Bible Belt Whites are against abortion, porn, and other Jewish causes in America but they are the biggest group of Israel supporters in the country because of their obsession with the Old Testament

You’re mistaken on that note. Their foolish tendencies are cultivated by WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING, such as the likes of John Hagee, Jerry Swaggart, et.al. (who are VERY good ‘preachers’, btw), who, themselves, were indoctrinated through the same channels which brought to fame the C.I. Scofield bible. (It is so pervasive that if one tries to point out the fallacies of the Scofield
footnotes, addressing die-hard Southern Baptists, it is almost
taken as blasphemy.) It was easier to target fine, naive sheep, than to target the more sophisticated elements of the body politic.

‘Dumbing down’ became a tactic in the churches even before it became a tactic in formal education systems (especially integrated, public schools).

Just like Flannery O’Connor wrote in her short story Temple of the Holy Ghost, I will paraphrase, yet put it in quotes, because I’m lazy.

“He wants to be a preacher in the Assembly of God because those guys don’t need to know nuthin!”.

There is another riotously funny moment when two boys start serenading a couple of Catholic school girls by playing some hillbilly music about having a friend in Jesus. The girls respond by singing Tantum Ergo Sacramentum. The Southern bible thumpers retort back that these girls must be singing some kind of Jew song.

It reminds me of one time when I sent a truck into a metals dealer in Greensboro, North Carolina, to pick up a load of stainless to go to Chicago. The metal dealer was a Jew. It was on a Friday, and when the old boy (from Alabama) pulled up onto the scales to get loaded, the old fellow (named ‘Seymour’) told my driver that he was sorry, but the yard was CLOSED for his grandson’s bar mitzva day. The driver asked him ‘What kind of goddam Hong Kong holiday is THAT??!’ 🙂 🙂
(Seymour called me and told me NEVER to send that driver there, again.)

In the last eleven months which I have, unlike any other before me or after me, troubled this site with my ineffable presence and cutting remarks, one theme and one theme alone has been uttered by you, namely, how the evil Jews and their minions have embarked on a mission to defeat, enslave, brutalize, and kill man, and this for no other purpose than to defeat man’s intelligence, so as to turn him into nations of slaves and soulless nothingses, et cetera, et cetera…

Now, my question(s) to you Madame, is this: Would you be so kind please – I know, kindness is something that is immensely difficult for you! – but, would you be so kind please as to enlighten your comatose readers about the methods and the means which YOUR RELIGION, Christianity, used in order to establish itself as the supreme religion on just about every part of the globe? Did not Christianity cut off the heads of every person who could so much as think in order to remove any and all intellectual opposition to its nefarious aims? Did not the beautiful Hypatia, whose unaffected charm, gorgeous beauty, high wisdom and warm gaiety suffer the cruellest death by having her bones scraped with sharp oyster shells by the demonic priests of your neo-Judaic religion? And what about the other, trillion other unbelievers, who refused to surrender their aeons-old gods and goddesses – how did they fare, eh? Was their end more bad than good or more good than bad? And who exactly employed a numberless army of book burners, and temple raisers, and skull breakers, and bone crushers, so as to better fortify this new so-called religion of yours, which has as much in common with the noble German race and the white man in general as has a porcupine with a white dove, or a Japanese sake with Turkish delight? Who brought daily into the lives of the noble pagan Europeans the dreaded and dreadful acts of Auto da Fe? And for what purpose? Who silenced the beautiful voices of our Poets? Who killed our myths? Which religion rendered Aristotle dead for upwards of fifteen-hundred years? Who gagged and banished Plato for an equally long period? To what religion does Eusebius, the black cur, belong? that hideous Judeo demonic pious fraudster, whose admitted lying and flying legends to this very day mesmerize and befool upwards of two billion hopeless living Christian corpses with his ‘’true’’ stories so fantastic, with his forgeries so glaring, that not to believe them is to pronounce oneself very certifiably mad? And which of your popes – come now, Madame Darkmoon, we know that ignorance and modesty has never become you! – which of your popes have we on record as saying that, ‘’Even though Christ never so much as lived nor reigned, still, we intend to make him not only the one who was most worthy of life but Emperor, too?! And the name of your Christian saint – do you know it, ma chere Madame? – his name, do you know who said that, ‘’Faith in Christ, like leprosy, can easily be caught by anyone who so much as comes into contact with it?’’ And if indeed Christianity is noble, and high, and good, why would a saint of its very religion – oh, evil Jews! – invoke the analogy of a disease and not of love in order to make a point? Which true Christian, before dying, described Christianity and its priests as a, ‘’race of filthy monkeys, whom man ought to refuse to call men and religion?’’ And who and how ‘’discovered’’ the tomb of your dear old Saint Ambrose? and what afterwards was said of him by one of your very priests of Christianity? Who killed, Madame? Who burned? Who raped? Who despoiled? Who raized? Who cut? Who pillaged? Who imprisoned? Who drowned? And who banished countless thousand trillions of good human beings simply and solely on account of their refusal to be SUBJECTED to the laws and the precepts of this strange new faith blazing its way out of the dead scorched lands of the evil, Judeo evil Jews? YOUR RELIGION, MADAME DARKMOON, – and I shall spare you the effort of having to answer all those questions of mine – your religion, Christianity, the religion of death and not of life!

You complain here about the evil Jews – though you could never quite bring yourself to utter loudly this truth in the way only I did [some women are weaker than women, they say!] – utterly impervious to the fact that the modus operandi which your beautiful Christian religion used to usurp the place of the former pagan gods of Europe is EXACTLY THE SAME as that which the evil Judeo globalists and the Illuminati are using today, where all other gods and beliefs must disappear before them, where anyone who so much as criticises them is silenced and put away, and where even a different way of thinking suffices to get a man hauled before the courts of the neo-Inquisitors of today that is the ADL, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera…

It was fine for your Judaic religion to triumph over all the ancient others, was it? Well, what’s your problem, then? Why can’t a new religion take the place of the old one, and this time burn YOUR churches, scorch YOUR new testament (sic), crush the dead bones of YOUR Christian saints and martyrs? Why can’t the name of Jesus Christ be held in the same reverence as was that of Serapis by the psychopathic Christian monks, and priests, and ultimately the entire nations of Christian believers? And why is Christian vandalism permitted against others but not that of the others against Christianity?

What’s the matter, Madame Darkmoon: too many questions for you? Rather apt, I should say, as from the moment I first thought about you, the very first thing that struck me was the fact that you yourself raise more questions than you provide answers; and whatever gorgeous delicacies and fine refinements you once possessed in my eyes, no longer move me, just like a fine dish no longer moves the man who has lost his appetite, or a Giorgionne landscape makes an impression to him who can no longer see.

In repressing my articles and not being willing to see the truth, you have behaved precisely like your Christian forefathers, who ejaculated their Judeo demonic sperm at the pleasure of seeing the truths of others suppressed. You are no fighter, Madame Darkmoon, no fighter at all! At best, you are one of those tragic figures one sees in a melancholy Racine play, (Racine was a French Playwright!), worn out with other and deeper cares and infirmities of life, and who finds this terrestrial life of hers altogether inexpressibly sorrowful, whilst carefully maintaining an aura of mystery, and greatness, and benevolence, and charm. You mesmerise! Oh, how you mesmerise! Only, keep working at it; as, to quote your criminal Eusebius, ‘’ This believer of our faith, is he not like a weeping child? And if he is, ought we not to gather him in our arms and mould him like a mother moulds his son?’’

You are a child-slave to a Judaic religion that has enslaved and brutalized man for the better part of two millennia, Lasha Darkreality, and, as such, YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY AND MENTALLY FORBIDDEN to speak out against those who now wish to impose their will on you.

TO LASHA DARKMOON: “In repressing my articles and not being willing to see the truth, you have behaved precisely like your Christian forefathers…”

Give it a rest, Ellie. Lasha has not “repressed” your articles. She has no editorial control over what gets published on this website. She has no power to publish your articles here, even if she wished to do so. You overestimate her influence. I am the site’s sole editor and I have rejected your articles as unsuitable for this website. It’s as simple as that.

We do not publish UNSOLICITED ARTICLES any longer. We used to do so, but we have stopped doing that. The only unsolicited material we are prepared to publish are COMMENTS that have already appeared on this website and which we feel deserve extra exposure as feature articles.

In regard to your unpublished articles, I wish you good luck and I urge you to do what most other professional writers would do in your situation: submit these articles of yours to other websites with less exacting standards. You will certainly find a home for them elsewhere if you try hard enough.

Ellie, like many on this site in the commentary section practice linguistic masturbation and give themselves a psychological orgasm ! They like the preachers of today just love to hear themselves speak albeit in the printed format here ! Christianity did not run the crusades, the Catholic church did which is like saying Judeo-Christian , they are the opposite ends of the magnet ! I will keep saying it till I have no breath those who are called Jews are NOT the people of the book but , are the enemies of the people of the book ! They are Kenites, Edomites and Cannanites , mixed with every other people on this planet ! If you hate the old testament you would hate the new also because they are one and the same ! They should not be called a testament either for that would be the words of someone deceased and my King , Savior and God is alive ! What needs to be done is to try to open the eyes of people as to WHO is WHO and let the chips fall where they may ! Everything else may be of interest at times but is of secondary importance at best ! Those who espouse that we love all on this planet will only get more of what is already happening ! To oppose evil without opposing those who commit the evil is shadow boxing , in which the opponent never is knocked out !

“Blood and Guts” the bottom line in the OT debate. IF the thought of killing mothers and their babies and running them through with swords and bayonets doesn’t bother you & IF you have no real objections to the ongoing spectacle of mass murder by military invasion & IF the Old Testament-based ritual of dropping “willy peter” on top of cringing goyim doesn’t bother you & IF you believe that a special group of murderers was “chosen” by the Creator of the Universe for the expressed purpose of killing “undesirables” who are squatting on land that the jewish god gave to the descendants of Abraham, and IF the Old Testament doesn’t bother you very much & IF you can discern “goodness” in mountains of dead and rotting corpses, then it follows that you could be someone who is genetically predisposed toward being a psychopath and a “reptilian.”

Just please do us all a favor and refrain from calling yourself a “Christian.”

I suspect that even the most virulent defender of the Old Testament would object to the thought of being on the receiving end of the bombs. It shows a definite lack of imagination on your part if you cannot envision the “shoe being on the foot.” If you’re unable to envision this dreaded possibility – that at some point in the future you may find yourself on the receiving end of the “Standard Old Testament Treatment” – then maybe you aren’t so genetically superior after all.

I’d like to know how it’s possible that someone can express their support for the Old Testament while simultaneously expressing opposition to the ongoing mass murder of the Palestinians and the Syrians and the Iraqis, etc. You keep saying that the “jews” aren’t really jews and that the “jews” of today are imposters. The State of Israel was created on the ideological foundation of the Old Testament, which you support …. It then becomes a matter of heredity and genetics rather than being a simple matter of what’s “right and wrong.” So your position is fundamentally immoral because you’re left with no other choice but to support the jews and their ongoing atrocities PROVIDING that the jews are capable of proving that they are the real genetic descendants of the “chosen” barbarians.

GIVEN THAT YOU’RE UNABLE TO DEFEND THE OLD TESTAMENT ON RATIONAL GROUNDS, IT LEAVES YOU WITH NO OTHER RECOURSE BUT TO DEFEND THAT PERVERTED VOLUME BY DISMISSING AND/OR BY PIDGEONHOLING ITS CRITICS. NEED I REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS PARTICULAR TACTIC WAS TAKEN RIGHT FROM THE PAGES OF THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE OF B’NAI BRITH ??

“SHALOM TOBY. GIVEN THAT YOU’RE UNABLE TO DEFEND THE OLD TESTAMENT ON RATIONAL GROUNDS, IT LEAVES YOU WITH NO OTHER RECOURSE BUT TO DEFEND THAT PERVERTED VOLUME BY DISMISSING AND/OR BY PIDGEONHOLING ITS CRITICS. NEED I REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS PARTICULAR TACTIC WAS TAKEN RIGHT FROM THE PAGES OF THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE OF B’NAI BRITH ??

May I ask why you are posting on this website since you appear to have nothing pleasant to say about it or its administrators? Do you have some sort of personality defect? If so, let me know and I will put a block on your future posts.

The fact that you are prepared to accuse me of being in league with the Anti-Defamation League and B’Nai B’rith tells me all I need to know about you.

The least you can do, you sonofabitch, is to be polite. There are many people on this site who happen to hate the Old Testament, including our best posters Lobro and Franklin Ryckaert. Learn from them the simple art of courtesy if you have sufficient intelligence to learn anything. If you cannot learn from them how to behave respectfully toward your hosts on this website, begone!

Save the Goyim contributes nothing to this website and should be blocked from all future posting. He deserves fifty lashes for his insolence.

I’m willing to bet he is one of those pseudo-intellectuals who sports a grizzly beard and thinks he can prove his superiority in discourse by dissing Admin and sneering at everyone who holds a contrary opinion.

i don’t hate old testament, because hate burns calories and i am not on a weightloss diet or anything like that.
i merely despise o/t in a serene, unhurried way, which lets me conserve energy for more deserving endeavors, such as cracking chinese fortune cookies to pick up god’s messages.

for example, most days i know the difference between msm and msg, which by itself guarantees me spot in the major leagues of the deep thinkers – more deep than shallow … hey ellie, stick around, a slightly buzzed lobro is still miles better company than the powdered wigs at the occidental observah.
me and joe will serenade you nightly, what would you like to hear, maybe i heard it in the grapevine, how about that one?
no, then how about mujeres de mayari … or happy, happy, joy, joy from ren and stimpy cartoons?
yes, more deep than shallow although shallow may have got an undeserved bad press by the usual hypocrites who open the weighty new york times and flip back to the sports pages as soon as no one is looking.

anyway, i am deathly bored by the north american mindset and cognitive patterns and would be bereaved by your departure as well as phil’s, because i have become a philophile, right or wrong, he nudges me into a thinking mode, which is no mean feat nowadays.

@ Max , Gilbert and Pat
Darkmooners:
I have been away because the Matrix/System caught up with me and am hospitalized due to my correct but unconventional thinking, like most Darkmooners. I am on a weekend pass which allows me to be home over the weekend, but must return to the hospital Sunday night.
The OT is the history of man and from the origins of the Universe to Adam/Eve to Noah and then to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. At this point it is the story of the Hebrews or Israelites. It is through these people, whether “chosen” or not, that the story/history continues to the time just before Jesus’s birth, God as flesh/mortal man. To me despite God’s plan, the Hebrews/Israelites went through a human struggle of pleasing God or disobeying God because of free will and SIN. Thus when the Israelites honored/worshipped God/Yahwah, they prospered and could defeat their more numerous and larger in stature, enemies. When they disobeyed and worshipped foreign gods, they lost their wealth, lost battles to their enemies and were even held captive as slaves under their neighbours’ control. The OT shows us that even when man makes a mistake, God can use it for your good and make you a whole and complete person that prospers under God. In the OT all great prophets were also weak, rebellious, and even did things against God like Jonah and the great fish allegory. The OT also shows us that Moses’ version of what would eventually be called Judaism was only about the first 5 books of the Bible , the Pentateuch, and the Ten Commandments, Mosaic law and what the judges that came after Moses decided would be the law. This is the basic Judaism, which would be called the TORAH. Another permissable addition would be NOAHIDE law ( precepts of God given to Noah). These two together would be what Judaism should be but then because the Israelites wanted an earthly king instead of God, the Israelites got what they deserved and sometimes got a good king and sometimes got a BAD king. Under a good king the Israelites were OK, but still forgot God. Under a BAD king, they regretted their choice and asked for their true God to return them to prosperity. When the Israelites turned to God, all things were better for them. I know that the OT has many killings committed by both sides, Israelites vs. neighbouring enemies, but if God asks it be done, it is only when the Israelites obey God that they prosper. Worship God, the Hebrews prospers in all aspects. The other factor in the OT that makes the Israelites disobey God, besides bad kings, is the fact that the High Priest/Rabbinical class decided that the rites, rituals, and traditions they developed, though supposedly as a tribute to God, was really just a tribute to themselves, as men of higher standing along with the king in their tribe, but actually turned all those extra rites, rituals, and traditions into a business for themselves to gain wealth in their own eyes. This would be stated as Traditions of Men not the Natural Laws of God. It was this business aspect of the High Priest/ Rabbinical Class/Sanhedrin/Sadduccees/Pharisees judaic religion that Jesus objected to that he turned over the tables of those moneychangers in the temple. The Rabbinical class got all their new ways of worship from Babylon from what Nimrod started and is classified as Babylonian Mysticism from the time of the Judeans’ Babylonian Captivity. It was only Daniel and his 3 friends plus the prophets who had books written in their name, that did not follow this new version of judaica that would be called the Talmud and the Kabbalah. These 2 aspects of the bad judaism is what makes Judaism under the Talmud an Occultic/Satanic deadly religion against the Goyim. So its would be wise to say beware of the Hebrews/Israelites/Jjews, because they are not your friend. Unfortunately most jews have not learned about the evil that their religion has in it and they will only change when Jesus Christ comes in defense of a remnant of them, the jews (1/3rd). This 1/3rd accepts Jesus as the Messiah/Meschiach, and the others will not and will perish/die.
Even Christianity, but mainly, Catholicism, has the same roots as Judaism under the guise of Babylonian Mysticism. Todays Vatican/Pope/Catholicism is the great Whore that rides the Beast. The OT is a section of the Bible that is heavily into animal sacrifices as a way of worshipping and praising God. But when Jesus came and was crucified, his death put an end to the sacrificial system practiced by jews. Then when the Antichrist comes and the Jews/Israel accept him as their Messiah, the sacrificial system will be started up again. However, this Antichrist will call an end to it, because he states that he is god and only an image of him will be worshipped. If you do not bow down to this Antichrist and his image in the Temple in jerusalem, you will be killed. Have no fear for if you go against this Antichrist, to the point of your own death, you will been in heaven and not hell. These are the points that make the OT important in our lives. The OT also has proper diet ideas that lead to a better, longer life. From these points you do not have to love the OT, though I wish you would, but at least appreciate it for all the wisdom it possesses. If you follow the wisdom it contains, I am sure your life will be better. Thus there is value to the OT even if you find it offensive. So get over it and use it to benefit yourself and others. Even if it is only by changing
your diet. At least that is a good start. Thanks, Norbert.

I’m neither obsessed with The Torah nor with distinguishing the difference between jews and counterfeit-jews (however each are necessary to know if you want to defeat THEM).

I’ve presented links with many of my comments which provide facts, and are not guesses, that support my argument. Do you want to defeat THEM or not? It seems like ‘not’ here.

My argument is not about free-speech, nor about the authenticity of The Bible. It is about defeating an enemy that many on here call “jews”, but they are not “jews”. That it is hard for you to comprehend, is understandable; but what is not acceptable is all this resistance.

A good explanation New Song! … Yeah, I know modern people we call “JEWS” are counterfeit ass-holes, as you say. …. Look at the evil, self-proclaimed “JEWS” such as Bibi Netanyahu, Janet Yellen, Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, Gene Symons, Gerry Seinfeld, Annie Sprinkle and Sarah Silverstein! etc, etc….
The English nomenclature JEW came into common use much later than the man, Jesus’s, conflicts with the Iewe’s of the Temple – Iewes who were just part of the whole Judaic scene of the so-called Holy Lands. Consider the huge differences between a Temple-attached Judaist and such as Jesus and his Nazarenes and Ignatius (scroll writer) of the Essenes!
I guess we are really talking about the Israelites who supposedly, on YHWH’s orders, invaded and colonised the lands of Canaan or Philestia. These were NOT Iewes or Jews, which are derivatives of the word Judaea (of Jesus’s time) as distinct from the people of the much earlier Kingdom of Judah.
Of course the Israelite-Arab people (Semites speaking the Semitic language known as Hebrew) were dispersed all over the Middle East and the known world.
To repeat, the IEWES/JEWS we speak about were Jesus’s adversaries and killers, whom their desert god had “turned his face away from”, and in today’s world are the ass-hole, Zionist-Marxists whom, as my mate Mel Gibson said, “are causing all the wars.” These bastards also have most of the gold and money and this buys ’em POWER! The ass-holes!!!!!
Those holding the loving spirit of Jesus’s true Israelites now number less than 5,000 persons on this planet, a short list which commences with yours truly, Master Max Bilney, sitting at number one. …. I hate The Pharisaic-Jews of today and yesteryear! … I want them exterminated soon!

Max , the WORD says – Do not think more highly of oneself than ye ought to ! Jesus says in the parable ( wheat and tares ) leave them alone till the harvest ! Luke 19:14 they say they do not want him to rule over them , but Luke 19:27 tells when justice is served – Bring those that would not have me rule over them and slay them at my feet ! We must wait for the King ! For now it is about educating those who do not know where the troubles of this world come from !

Another outrageous provocation from Ellie, I am sorry, I can’t resist the temptation, it’s not the Christian things to do, but she insists on using French history to attack Christianity in her own inverted simplify version of history.

Come one Ellie, why don’t you leave Lasha alone, Mr montecristo is right.
I know you have loved her too much not to feel any hatred for her. But a noble heart cannot suspect in others, the pettiness and malice that it has never felt.
Look at Rousseau and Voltaire, disturbing parallel, one of many.
“God of the Jews, you prevail!”
It has been a while, in France, where you pretend to live my poor Andromaque, mon baccalauréat de Français pardi, open your windows. But I am not sure it’s the same God than Esther and Mordechai. Laissez moi creuser la question jusqu’à la racine, in a synthetic way.
Blame this german Frank named Clovis for Jesus, this German “race” you know, invoking the Jewish God of his devoted wife Clotilde at the battle of Tolbiac, so that he would have the strength to defeat the Alamans and their worship of the heathen gods, before he was baptized on Christmas day by Saint Remigius. 1300 years later, the sacrifice of the sixteenth Clovis by a bunch of freemasons, la contre église under Jewish/German sponsorship, would end the sacred notarial deed, la triple donation of Joan who judaized the Brits, that made the King of France the earthy intermediary, it’s also in the Talmud, of the real spiritual King of France, not other than Jesus the Jew, who was indeed a Jew, until he wasn’t, like Clovis! That’s what I learn in catechism anyway, but maybe it’s a Jewish lie, I have to say the Jews hate this version and it doesn’t sound very Jewish to me, especially from Rouen where I write this, the city of Corneille, of the Hundred Spires. Since 1789, where Revolution replaced Revelation, I make it simple for you, Christianity has been replaced by Laicity, a bastard version of it, like the Republic has aped from day one every symbol of the old monarchy, like Marianne ,represented now by a femen on the stamps, for Holy Mary, the cult of the supreme Being for God, the civil baptism, the civil wedding… how ridiculous when you think about it.
But it didn’t really worked, since we need a little transcendence, so now in history class, it’s Shoah mandatory catechism for everybody, as Laicité is just a disguised of Nohaism, the new global religion for Goy, with the Jews playing the part of the defrocked monks with their Holy Talmud, trying to spy on us, so that we won’t blaspheme the Holy shoah, the ape version of Christianity for Jews, who must convert everybody, the bloody proselytes, with their temples, saints, prophets like Wiesel… 6 months in jail for me, “why mister judge I am saying good things about the Jew God?” You can blaspheme Christianity, like this Golgotha Picnic theater piece where actors throw excrements on Jesus, but an insinuation about Judaism and you are fired of Charlie Hebdo, who went really far with the Holy Father in the total indifference, since Catholics pretty much didn’t care.
Scoop 1, Globalism is Talmudic, with the complete devotion of the Church since Vatican II and Nostra Aetate, who claimed that the Jews are our big brothers. Yes, they were, until they weren’t. “Oremus et pro perfidis Judaeis” was only suppressed from Catholic liturgy in 1959, after JC, Joe do you copy? Pat?
Scoop 2, Jesus is the Messiah announces in the OT. I am just guessing here.
But maybe I read it backwards, and Bismarck who did all he could to finally dechristianized France and italy by installing the Republic with “son petit ami” Thiers was here to save us from “a time immemorial” Jewish conspiracy, like Adolf.
So tell me Ellie, what are you doing in France, the eldest daughter of the Catholic Church if it’s the eldest daughter of the Synagogue, for you.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound to me from my national perspective? Don’t worry Lobro, if she is indeed an aristocrat, une précieuse ridicule, she has been trained from birth to suffer shame without batting an eyelid. Thank you for your answer, very Pascalien or rousseauiste, nice contrast between form and substance, like a morbid Goya in my living room.
I know aristocrats don’t read the Gospels anymore, too unconfortable, but you should check if my version might not be right, as all the fine French gentlemen you quote abound in my direction. I have proofs! but the rats ate it, or hide it between another story, a new Golgotha, a simpler negative version for gullible people. Why would the evil jews do that? J’en appelle à ta raison pure. I know you like Kant, the toothless Rousseau, who said that the Evangile is the most sublime Book ever, the only one you need, liberal Voltaire didn’t like that, just like BHL, his ape Talmudic version, usurer, slaver, faussaire and expert in intimidation, disturbing parallel when you consider the unrivalled level of Voltaire anti-Semitism, maybe another mimetic rivalries between the NEW aristocraty of money, like Max and the board of the Fed.
Maybe Rousseau was right since everybody persecuted him, that’s why I like him Ellie, a roturier despised by the Arch Alliance of liberal reason and institutionalized social controlling faith, like the Shoah now, to protect money. He was persecuted in the name of Jesus, check the Gospels, because he tried to reconcile reason and faith, but I know it doesn’t make sense to you. By the way, I don’t mind the Virgin of Orleans by Voltaire, this guy had skilled, but France was still a Catholic country. We are not puritan bigots, look where did it lead the brits. And Sade was not crazy, he just pushed the Enlightenment logic to the extreme, look at us now, la pornocratie, Proudhon was right, this blasmephous anti-Semite, according to current faith standard, and this perverse elitist overbidding pedophilia. Libertins were not perverse Ellie, come on.
Rousseau, who was clearly not a Paragon of Virtue, how boring and useless he would have been, was a pedophile, jee, it’s a cheap shot below the waist. From all the elevating things you could have said about Rousseau or else, you chose the ad hominen attack and completely out of context. If anything, i thought you would have mentioned the embarassing abandon of his children or the fact that he was a gigolo or homophobic or that his work leads straight to Staline, i heard all the calumnies about this man. Strangely, I have never heard anyone claiming about his pedophiliac character, that he might have developed in Venice when he was 31, the city of vice for obvious reasons, in a time of libertinism intellectual and sexual debauchery amongst the European aristocrats/clergymen with orgies, flagellations, debauchery of minor/pederasty like in the case of Rousseau and more good stuffs, the century of Sade. Those were common practices due to the nex fascination for Greece and ancient Rome where all the sexual activities, when the free man is active, used to be considered as normal and “the passivity a crime for the man of free birth”, like Sénèque said, “sabré ou etre sabré”.
Was Cicero a submitted passive criminal? Did he take it in the butthole by Tiro? He wouldn’t like that ad hominen attack. And now, in France you have ex ministers like Mitterrand or Lang making confessions about their pederasty holidays in Thailand or Casablanca, I am sure you know more morbid stories, in the total indifference while you are blaming Rousseau for being tempted par l’Air de Venise in the 17th by bastard teenage singers and confessing it bravely with his name in a book.
“Hélas! mon plus constant bonheur fut en songe. Son accomplissement fut presque à l’instant suivi du réveil. »
I also believe they had their way with them, but I am not sure he made an habit out of it, unlike so many well respected aristocrats of this time. Do you want me to name them all? There might be a few Clovis amongst them.
Are you a puritan Ellie, like those Christians protestant you hate so much? Too much virtue can be criminal, as Racine said , and can drive you mad. This is where puritanism and repression have leaded us, look at poor Cicero and Octavius the puritan. And the perverse Anglo American establishment with their OT loving puritan Protestantism. Was Henry Tudor a pedophile?
Have you ever wondered why the Jews have chosen Amsterdam, England and USA for their Talmudic global Universal Republic and have supported any heresies undermining the trinity to arrive to Christian Zionism? They clearly not chose France, Spain or Italy for the manpower.

Since I have your attention Ellie maybe you could give me your opinion about this apology of money under the precept of Talmud made by BHL.
“Au rebours du préjugé, l’argent ne corrompt pas ou, en tout cas, pas forcément, mais peut élever l’humanité ! À l’inverse de ce que nous répètent, tous les matins, les altermondialistes et autres antilibéraux, l’argent n’est pas nécessairement barbare mais peut avoir une fonction civilisatrice ! […] C’est cet outil très spécial qui a pour propriétés, nous dit toujours le Talmud, la banalité, la neutralité, la convertibilité et la sécabilité – et qui s’appelle, donc, l’argent. Contre le Talion, l’argent. Pour casser la machine à tuer, l’argent. Chalem (payer) pour réinstituer chalom (la paix) – telle est la dernière fonction éthique de l’argent. Là encore, l’argent ne produit pas la barbarie, il la contient, l’évite et, à la lettre, l’économise. ”
I won’t translate it, sorry it’s late and saturday night you know, but what’s wrong with that, the pagan Babylonian faith of your ancestors, you should embrace it if you want to find happiness, it’s very practical for unhappy lords or rich people, or so I am told. I would also advise you to move from France as a puritan radical self-hating Jewess fan of Hitler must be feeling very lonely, I hear Frankfurt is not so bad, where they still worship both the drunken Jewish pagan god, Adolf, and money. On ne peut pas avoir le beurre et l’argent du beurre, another weak quote, but German and Jews need simple things.
You see, each time when I end up your post, the only thing I remember, except for the quality of your style and historical references, is “Money is the only worthy idol” and “Evil Jews”.
That’s the BHL rhetoric, and with all the anti-Christian rhetoric, I confess I made a bad dream last night. So I have to ask you Jewllie, are you a smelly Rabbi?

I am embarassed now and will go confess myself tomorrow for the bad words I’ve just said, but I am sure you were expecting them, since you might be a little sado masochist yourself.
I have 100 choices, maybe place du vieux marché, where everything went wrong for England. That’s the problem with the Brits and the evil corrupted clergyman Abbé Cauchon, they should have confessed for Joan, all this repression of guilt, is not healthy. It makes me think to an interesting essay about Max Plague, I think I have found the patient zero in 1642, it might be a Bilney for all I know, I will lead the inquisition for a vaccine, starting with this Cromwell puritan dude
You should reread the Confesssions and the Gospels, leave Rosenberg and Gobineau for a minute. And the Nouvelle Héloise, of course.
“Je vous remercie de vos livres; mais je ne lis plus ceux que j’entends, et il est trop tard pour apprendre à lire ceux que je n’entends pas. Je suis pourtant moins ignorant que vous ne m’accusez de l’être. Le vrai livre de la nature est pour moi le coeur des hommes, et la preuve que j’y sais lire est dans mon amitié pour vous.”
Julie wasn’t a Jew, i don’t buy that, but a nice Christian girl.
Because the pagan faith of my ancestors, let me see, par Toutatis, that’s confusing, the celtic sky is falling on my head, or maybe it’s Odin, the loving pagan god of my Viking northmen ancestor, or Mercure, or Dis Pater according to Jules Cesar. I will stick with Jesus, for a little transcendence and keep close my pagano helleno gallo roman heritage, just to piss of the Jews and their old pagan Babylonian God, the same than you, the money that devours the world, call him Moloch, like Blanqui. Au pied Moloch!

But you are right about one thing, I am just a verbal troubadour, nothing more and my team is France, we just don’t see it the same way. Try the Mont Saint Michel, for some fresh air, or a nice pelerinage to Lourdes maybe.

It’s late, kick off time at 10 and baptism in the afternoon, I need my resting sleep. 2000 thousand words, oulala, sorry about that.

In summation, Phil, money IS the great civilizer. The CORRUPTION of it (money) is the great misdeed by which all suffer (or by which some realize very temporary satisfaction). The wise Paul admonished Timothy of its pitfalls @1Timothy 6:10. He warned against ‘vain babblings and oppositions of science’ @1 Timothy 6:20. Since the Byzantine Empire, most of mankind has suffered, in one way or another, from ‘love of money’ (leading to perversity of acquisition), or ‘vain babblings’… Read The Book. Seek understanding. It’s ALL there, mon ami.