First, I think the New Warriors coverage has been great in Initiative, where characters are still on track.

But IMO the New New Warriors book is mixed. Its not a book thats gonna last im afraid.

Bandit was always a loser in my opinion. I found the notion of his existence cheesy and forced to start, and he also had an enormously bad 90s appearence. I always hated him, and I DONT like that he is the new NT, frankly i thought it would have been cooler if it was midnights' fire.

This New Warriors book wasnt built for fans of the old books..so in that way , along with the skottie young debacle it is a slap in the face to the old warriors fans. This book also seems slow and dragging. Now that said, as a fan of the old books I like the new series...as long as you understand its just NOT warriors stuff.Its somthing new and different, yet in some ways only average.

--Previous Message-- : I have to admit, I seriously considered : dumping Marvel when I first got wind of : their plans to do a superhuman civil war. : Then, when I heard that they were going to : kill the New Warriors to kick it off, I was : even more intent on doing so. : : Then, I read Civil War. And, despite its : problems, I rather liked it. : : But, to my surprise, I absolutely LOVE the : attention to detail they're giving the : Warriors in its aftermath: : Aegis (Trey Jason Rollins): He disappeared : after Volume II, and we next saw him in the : X-Factor tie-in to Civil War, where he was : on the run from SHIELD “cape-killer” troops. : : Bandit (Donyell Taylor): All he ever wanted : was the life he felt fate had denied him, a : life he thought his half-brother Dwayne had : stolen. In another instance of great : character development, he finally has : everything he wanted ... he's taken Dwayne's : life as his own. The Taylor name, the Taylor : Foundation, his own personal fortune and his : half-brother’s home --- it's all his now. : And did anyone else catch the wedding band : on his finger? : : Bolt (Christopher Bradley): I have to admit, : I like the way Marvel brought him into the : Weapon X series. When he discovered his : mentor, Maverick, had been killed by the : Weapon X program, he had Cable and Domino : train him so that he could become Maverick : II and avenge his mentor. As the new : Maverick, he was later killed by Weapon X’s : star hitman, Weapon Zero --- who was : secretly the original Maverick! Oh, the : irony! : : Dagger (Tandy Bowen): Hasn’t been seen : since the Civil War, but I keep hearing Joe : Quesada lamenting that he has yet to see the : perfect “Cloak & Dagger” pitch. : Hopefully, someone will find it in time to : add it to the current Warriors boom. : : Darkhawk (Christopher Powell): I don’t read : Loners, but, from what I’ve heard, : Darkhawk’s been undergoing some problems. I : LOVE it when writers put characters through : hell, but ONLY if the purpose is to : strengthen the character. I just may pick up : Loners just to see what’s going on. : : Debrii (Deborah Fields): Introduced during : the Warrior’s third volume, she vanished : until Civil War. We’re seeing little bits of : her in the Initiative; hopefully, we’ll see : some character development soon. : : Firestar (Angelica Jones): A key player in : the first volume of the Warriors, and later : in the Avengers, I was sorry to see Angelica : quit the superhero gig. I would LOVE to see : how her decision has affected her life. On : the other hand, according to the X-Men : books, mutants are automatically registered. : So perhaps we’ll be seeing her as part of : the Initiative… : : Hindsight (Carlton LaFroyge): The former : Hindsight Lad became a valued member of the : Warriors in their first volume. Then, he was : ignored in the second and third volumes. : Given his history, his shocking return in : the She-Hulk tie-in to Civil War made : perfect sense in its context, and moved the : story of the team and its legacy forward. : And his scorched earth campaign against the : team, DestroyAllWarriors.com, was brilliant. : : Justice (Vance Astrovik): A mainstay of the : original team, and a good solid player in : the Avengers, it’s great to see him working : with the Initiative as a counselor. I’m : curious where they’re going to take Vance, : because he does NOT like Gauntlet. He seems : more sure of himself than we’ve seen in : years. I can’t wait to see how they develop : his character. : : Kymaera (Namorita Prentiss): Yes, she’s : dead, but her death led to Namor’s current : difficulties in his miniseries! And her : mother’s not too happy with humanity either, : as shown in The Incredible Hulk tie-ins to : World War Hulk! : : Microbe (Zachary Smith Jr.): Well, his death : has been confirmed, which is a pity. I : think, with a bit more development, he could : have been interesting. As it is, his : character was merely tragic in all that lost : potential. : : Night Thrasher (Dwayne Michael Taylor): Who : IS the Night Thrasher currently leading the : New Warriors? Could Dwayne have survived : Stamford? What is the connection between : Thrash and King T’Challa of Wakanda? Is it : Dwayne in the armor, or is he behind the : scenes, pulling the strings? I love a good : mystery! : : Nova (Richard Rider): I was mad when I heard : that Nova would miss out on Civil War. Then : I found out about Annihilation. Now, we’ve : got a new ongoing series, and a sequel to : Annihilation! And let’s face it: This new : ongoing is better than Nova’s had in years! : : Rage (Elvin Daryl Haliday): I like seeing : Elvin in the Initiative. It should be : interesting to see how his anger over losing : Dwayne (and the Warriors’ name being : tainted) is handled over the long term. : Also, I love the characterization! Rage and : Justice go at it, and they reveal something : that I'd nearly forgotten --- although they : were both members of the Warriors, they : never really served TOGETHER. After all, : Vance was in jail when Elvin joined, and : Elvin left the team shortly after Vance was : released. Attention to details like that is : why I’m still with this new, revitalized : Marvel. : : Scarlet Spider (Benjamin Reilly): This : clone of Peter Parker died just after the : end of the Warriors’ first volume, but his : name is still around, as shown in the covert : ops team featured in Avengers, the : Initiative. : : Silhouette (Silhouette Chord): That ring on : Bandit’s finger has me wondering if Sil : married him. I hope not. Still, it was great : seeing her in Civil War and the Iron Man : tie-in. Also, Silhouette is rumored to be : showing up soon, possibly in New Warriors! : : Slapstick (Stephen Harmon): I’d been : wondering when he joined the Warriors. : Having assumed that it occurred, but wasn’t : shown, between volumes one and two or two : and three. But it turns out that, along with : the Warriors, fought someone called Doctor : Yesterday in 1994’s Marvel Comics Presents : #159-163. So, perhaps he did join the team : later, and we just never saw it? In any : event, Civil War and the Initiative have : brought this loony-tunes-type psychopath out : to play. : : Speedball (Robert Justin Baldwin): They've : put Robbie Baldwin through a meat-grinder, : all but ensuring that, whoever he is when he : comes out of it, he'll be a MUCH stronger : character. AND, as Penance, he's got his own : limited series, as well as being a : Thunderbolts regular. : : Timeslip (Rina Patel): Not seen on panel : since the Civil War, she WAS on the cover to : Avengers: The Initiative #1, giving rise to : speculation that she might show up in that : title. : : Turbo I (Michiko “Mickey” Musashi ) and : Turbo II (Michael Brent Jeffries): Jeffries’ : death is still spurring Mickey on in her : drive to be a hero. And Mickey is a main : character in the Loners, which will : (hopefully) get an ongoing series someday : soon. : UltraGirl (Susannah “Susie” Sherman): Her : character is finally be used, having : re-appeared in She-Hulk, Civil War, and now : the Initiative. And as an added bonus, she : and Vance have apparently given in to the : attraction they felt WAAAAAAY back in the : UltraGirl limited series (which happened : between Warriors volumes 1 and 2). : : Zero-G (Alexander Power): The former : Powerhouse is rumored to be appearing soon : in The Initiative. Hopefully, we might also : find out what’s been going on with Power : Pack in continuity, even while Alex’s sister : is busy with the Loners. : : So, what do you other Warriors fans think? : Has Marvel been good to us in recent years? : :