If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966

This is typical Chad. Always the goofball and always seeking attention. Guess what, Chad? This is a courtroom and you are facing time in jail. Time to grow up and act like an adult... or face jail. I applaud the judge. This is not about a 15 yard penalty or a fine by Goodell. Court (CRIMINAL COURT) is serious stuff. Chad has A.D.D. or is just stupid. And being stupid in court might get you more than a 15 yard penalty. But in his not so smart fashion he figured a plea deal between his attorney and the prosecutor was a done deal and he could do something CUTE. Wrong! He will have some time to grow up. And hopefully he will mature and learn not to assault other people while sitting in jail.

BTW... I used to be a huge Chad fan. No agenda against him. But stupid is as stupid does.

Such a poor choice of words.

"Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by redsfandan

I agree that it should be cut it down to 10 days or even just 1 day. Yeah, it's important to take things seriously when you're in court. He slipped up and jumped the gun. Does that really call for 30 days? Was he really trying to disrespect the judge? It didn't look like it to me. And while he wasn't in a suit it's not like he was in sweats either. If he's in jail for more than a week it'll be a mistake. Say what you want about Chad but I bet there's alot of people that deserve his spot in jail more than he does for slapping his lawyers butt.

Justice should be blind. It shouldn't matter if you wear an Armani suit or a short sleeve shirt. The judge should be able to see past that. Now if you want to talk about juries and how a well dressed defendant does as opposed to a scrub that is a different story.

I wonder if this judge would have had a problem if Chad patted his attorney on his back. If this judge felt strongly enough that Chad's actions were inappropriate she could have held him in contempt of court. She did not and went on a power trip which is scary when you consider there are other people whose livelihoods may be based upon her decisions.

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by redsfandan

I agree that it should be cut it down to 10 days or even just 1 day. Yeah, it's important to take things seriously when you're in court. He slipped up and jumped the gun. Does that really call for 30 days? Was he really trying to disrespect the judge? It didn't look like it to me. And while he wasn't in a suit it's not like he was in sweats either. If he's in jail for more than a week it'll be a mistake. Say what you want about Chad but I bet there's alot of people that deserve his spot in jail more than he does for slapping his lawyers butt.

My whole problem is that disrespect shouldn't be punishable by law, except for in the cases where you are warned you will be held in contempt and then continue. That clearly didn't happen here. He didn't say or do anything directed toward the judge.

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by dougdirt

My whole problem is that disrespect shouldn't be punishable by law, except for in the cases where you are warned you will be held in contempt and then continue. That clearly didn't happen here. He didn't say or do anything directed toward the judge.

But that court is run by that judge, That judge has all the jurisdiction in that room. And, as Chad discoverd, that judge has the right to determine the punishment for violation of probation. Make no mistake that Chad's attorney warned him over-n-over to be careful and do not do anything "cute". We all know how Chad is and so does any semi-intelligent attorney. Chad, in his infinite wisdom, thought it was a done deal and decided to be cute. The judge thought he was making a mockery of the whole thing (court, domestic violence, probation violation) and decided Chad was not getting it.

Say Chad calls his attorney a super mother-****** (in the positive street way of saying it). Not towards the judge, but still making a mockery of a serious thing (criminal court, domestic violence, probation violation). Same sort of thing, right?

Court does not have rules like some sports where you get a warning. And this was not contempt of court that landed him in jail (do not confuse the matter). HE VIOLATED PROBATION and that is punishable in this case by up to 1 year in jail. He oughta be thankful that his stupidity only got him 30 days.

I like to think that he will be released early (good behavior, etc). I also hope he has learned from all of this. Be very careful of who you marry. Never get yourself in a position to be charged with domestic violence. Never VIOLATE PROBATION. Never act the fool in any judge's court. He will probably land another reality show b/c of all this and end up rich(er)... ain't modern TV great lol?

Likes:

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by dougdirt

My whole problem is that disrespect shouldn't be punishable by law, except for in the cases where you are warned you will be held in contempt and then continue. That clearly didn't happen here. He didn't say or do anything directed toward the judge.

That judge was totally out of line. There was giggling in her courtroom. The horror of it all. 30 days in jail for some giggling? Does anyone think that punishment fit the "crime"?

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

I honestly think that was a BS move by a rookie judge trying to make a name for herself.

I disagree. Chad got what he deserved. He was there on a domestic abuse charge and he slaps his lawyer on the butt? That shows you he wasn't taking this seriously at all. He's always been an idiot, and obviously he still hasn't matured a bit.

"I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

Likes:

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by texasdave

That judge was totally out of line. There was giggling in her courtroom. The horror of it all. 30 days in jail for some giggling? Does anyone think that punishment fit the "crime"?

I absolutely do. If he was there on a traffic violation, I might agree with you. But he was there on a much more serious charge. This isn't anything to laugh about or take lightly. I have a lot more respect for that judge than I have for Chad Johnson.

"I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

Likes:

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

I don't know. That looked like a pretty fancy courtroom, so maybe they have plenty of space at their jail. The courts I've worked in just don't have the jail space to waste for a judge to decide to send someone to jail for 30 days instead of other sanctions over a butt slap. Even the most hardcore judges I know would have just had him taken into custody, cuffed, and made to sit in the courtroom through the rest of the day's proceedings to put a scare in them. Actual jail time is reserved for those with bad records and those who repeatedly get hit with contempts for consistently failing to follow court orders. I have a feeling the judge was making an example of Chad and wouldn't have done the same if it was some nameless nobody with a relatively minimal record and is otherwise a productive member of society.

Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.

Likes:

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by New York Red

I disagree. Chad got what he deserved. He was there on a domestic abuse charge and he slaps his lawyer on the butt? That shows you he wasn't taking this seriously at all. He's always been an idiot, and obviously he still hasn't matured a bit.

I also "liked" the comment NYR was rebutting concerning the judge making a name for herself. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Chad is certainly a fool and always has been. He just matched up w/ someone who's ego is as large as his this time. Even if he has to do the entire 30 he'll not learn. A month in timeout won't hurt him.

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted.

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by New York Red

I absolutely do. If he was there on a traffic violation, I might agree with you. But he was there on a much more serious charge. This isn't anything to laugh about or take lightly. I have a lot more respect for that judge than I have for Chad Johnson.

In fairness to Chad, he wasn't giggling. He didn't break a smile. He was stoic in the video clip I saw

Re: Ochocinco goes from probation to 30 days in jail after attorney butt slap...

Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966

But that court is run by that judge, That judge has all the jurisdiction in that room. And, as Chad discoverd, that judge has the right to determine the punishment for violation of probation. Make no mistake that Chad's attorney warned him over-n-over to be careful and do not do anything "cute". We all know how Chad is and so does any semi-intelligent attorney. Chad, in his infinite wisdom, thought it was a done deal and decided to be cute. The judge thought he was making a mockery of the whole thing (court, domestic violence, probation violation) and decided Chad was not getting it.

That is my point though. Judges shouldn't just be able to do what they want. Slapping someone on the butt, who isn't taking it as a sexual harassment type of situation, is not against the law. It shouldn't warrant jail time. It shouldn't warrant anything because it is not against the law to do it. The judge then took that action and decided that what she and the prosecutor had previously agreed on for his punishment for the crime he did commit was not good enough. Sorry, but your not-breaking-the-law actions shouldn't change that. This judge, and plenty of other judges go too far in their power trips with things like this.

Say Chad calls his attorney a super mother-****** (in the positive street way of saying it). Not towards the judge, but still making a mockery of a serious thing (criminal court, domestic violence, probation violation). Same sort of thing, right?

Saying that to your lawyer is not making a mockery of any of those things because it has nothing to do with those things.

Court does not have rules like some sports where you get a warning. And this was not contempt of court that landed him in jail (do not confuse the matter). HE VIOLATED PROBATION and that is punishable in this case by up to 1 year in jail. He oughta be thankful that his stupidity only got him 30 days.

The thing that landed him in jail was the slap of the butt of the lawyer. Before that, the judge and prosecutor were on board with his plea deal and it didn't have jail time included. The judge then changed it because Chad slapped his lawyer on the butt. It is a power trip, pure and simple. Being stupid shouldn't get you in jail if being stupid isn't breaking the law. Chad whatever his last name is, in this instance that led to the jail time, didn't break the law. The laws that he did break were agreed upon for him to "serve his time" outside of jail in other ways as service to the community. It was the butt slap that got him in jail and that isn't against the law.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most
importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball