And the going rate for an old D man who never played well defensively in his own zone, who was signed to make good 1st passes to his forwards on the break-out and move the puck well on the power play, who failed at both is 5 million per seaon?

LOL at the DESPERATE attempt to simply sum it up as “Wrong System”
Who are you? Ray Shero himself trying to convince me that I should pay Martin 14 million over the next 3 years?

And please don’t reply, you are ill-equipped to debate this with me

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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:05:55 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79423two more thoughts (in terms of being on the pens) WRONG and SYSTEM. Moreover, that’s the going rate for DEF.
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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:52:59 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79420I have two thoughts
Over and Paid
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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:27:14 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79413Well, there’s THAT. (Bruins fan here, all to familiar with his defensive prowess). But, he does make a good power play even better- so combining him with a quality stay at home d-man to help cover for him could be a gamble worth taking. I’m thinking back to the late-’90s Avalanche and the combination of Sandis Ozolinsh (playing as Wideman here) and Jon Klemm (as his security blanket)- if Ozolinsh jumped into the play, often it produced points. And if he did something stupid, Klemm covered him.
]]>By: rtrmusichttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2012/06/11/with-lidstrom-and-stuart-gone-detroit-is-going-to-need-some-help-on-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-79411
Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:21:16 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79411The Pens are trying to trade Paul Martin and Z. Michalek. Any thoughts on them?
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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:06:01 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79407Even with his glaring defensive liabilities?
]]>By: govtminionhttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2012/06/11/with-lidstrom-and-stuart-gone-detroit-is-going-to-need-some-help-on-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-79406
Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:05:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=713067#comment-79406Wideman is actually in interesting suggestion. Not a bad idea.
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