Ugly All the Way Down

You know who's really ugly? Whoopi Goldberg. I just happened to see a short clip of the View and I don't remember her being quite that ugly. She looks like she's partially bald and what's left of her stringy, matted hair gives her an uncanny resemblance to the alien in the 'Predator' movies.

Goldberg was never a beauty, but years ago, when she was playing Guinan on ST:TNG, she wasn't bad looking. I mean, she was attractive enough that Ted Danson bedded her. So what happened?

It is my belief that progressive politics makes you ugly. That is, more consistently you adhere to progressive ideology, which by its very nature is anti-reality, anti-beauty, and anti-life, the uglier you get. Because, in engineering terms, human beings were never designed to function the way progressivism demands. Even though we have a great deal of built-in resiliency, nevertheless the more progressive you are, the more out-of-tolerance your whole self is operating, and if you keep it up, eventually you're going to get deformations, malfunctions and breakdowns, whether moral, intellectual, spiritual, or even physical.

The ugliness and deformation starts on the inside, and as the years go by, it eventually works its way to the outside.

I believe that SJWs and crybullies, as an aggregate, have a greater inclination toward depression and other forms of mental illness than conservatives do. Not that conservatives are free of mental illness, but the more firmly you believe in your heart and mind that there are 83 genders, the higher the probability that you have either Zoloft, Xanax or Risperdal in your medicine cabinet.

The progressive starts out with "the personal is political". Great googly moogly, how f*ed up is that? If there's no distinction between the two, there's no stopping you from believing that your personal preferences and idiosyncrasies should be national policy. Again, how f*ed up is that?

Here's a comment from the book thread I thought was interesting:

I'm noticing more and more, when I'm out and about in a large crowd, that there are more "Pat's" in the world these days, if you know what I mean.

People whose gender cannot be easily determined from a first or even a second look. And none of these people are hotties, either male or female. Lots and lots of out of shape, saggy and baggy, young to old folks. And the expressions on their faces are not happy or joyful now that they have what they want. They just look...sad, with a bit of what-are-you-lookin-at thrown in.

Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (EBwPV)

Does anybody here really believe that Trigglypuff is happy and well-adjusted?

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I've never been comfortable talking about the unattractiveness of others. I'm no Adonis. But I think you are in to something. Some people, almost always progressives in my experience, have a truly unappealing nature about them. It comes from inside. It is visceral and it's real.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:42 PM (0tfLf)

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There is a theory ( mine of course) that hate in a person is like the ring of power in LotR and what it did to Gollum.

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 20, 2017 01:38 PM (6jaju)

Sure sign: that pinched mouth facial expression even when not directly confronting someone... it just screams "I have no personal relationship with God and am miserable All. THE. TIME. because I don't like myself."

Also... I find it really odd that people's whole lives are shattered because of Trump.

Anecdotally, I work with a lot of lower income black guys at my part time job. I have NEVER heard them complain about politics or Trump. In fact, they rarely talked about Obama. I would say that generally, they are more reality based than the Gen X and Millennials I work with.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 01:44 PM (aT+Bx)

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The progressive starts out with "the personal is political". ......If there's no distinction between the two, there's no stopping you from believing that your personal preferences and idiosyncrasies should be national policy.
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Bullseye.

But next time use the correct pronouns when addressing me because every nuance of my personality must be publicly acknowledged and celebrated.
OR ELSE.

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Diogenes , yeah I try to avoid,that also, but sometimes I dislike someones attitude so much I respond cattily, like with Micchelle o. and I will add because I was Supposed to adulate her made it tougher to shush

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 01:44 PM (FKrah)

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which by its very nature is anti-reality, anti-beauty, and anti-life, the uglier you get---That's pretty close to something I read in a book about demonic possession a few years back, FWIW.

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Envy, dissatisfaction, anger, offense, and outrage can be disfiguring over time. I know someone whose wife was once beautiful, but despite "haveing work done" and perfect complexion, looks at best well dressed plain. She looks at all times as though she has bit on a lemon and smelled a fart. Every smile looks insincere and forced. I know her life had been a disappointment, and she tales a good game but she is mad all the time. Its spoiled what once was a very pretty face.

Milo had a theory about this. The continual anger and aggression led to increased testosterone levels, which noticeably affected the facial features.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 01:46 PM (/qEW2)

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Sure sign: that pinched mouth facial expression even when not directly
confronting someone... it just screams "I have no personal relationship
with God and am miserable All. THE. TIME. because I don't like myself."--

I have a female co-worker in her mid fifties that is that person.

I do think that somewhere inside, she's a decent person. I've seen it on occasion.

But she's so angry about things, and so demanding and miserable that she actively drives people away from her. She wants to find a nice guy, and she's attractive enough, but it's impossible with her anger issues. What she needs is therapy and medication. Well, outside of the self medicating she does with weed.

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No fair using Whoopi. As you say she was never a typical beauty, although in STNG she looked pretty good, seemed to have a confidence in herself. Ashley Judd would be a better example although I'm not going to chase down a picture to see if the petulant, whiny attitude has done its damage yet.

41That's pretty close to something I read in a book about demonic possession a few years back, FWIW.

Posted by: Methos at August 20, 2017 01:45 PM (XQvuQ)

The demonic possession concept sure does explain a lot of what's going on these days, and I think the soul and physical body are inextricably interdependent so...

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:48 PM (gwPgz)

42The progressive starts out with "the personal is political". Great googly moogly, how f*ed up is that? If there's no distinction between the two, there's no stopping you from believing that your personal preferences and idiosyncrasies should be national policy. Again, how f*ed up is that?

And it goes both ways. Our person preferences could represent thought crimes, and our personal choices could represent injustices.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 01:49 PM (/qEW2)

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maybe we should avoid low hanging fruit, but maybe that's a small part of aces charm.

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 01:49 PM (FKrah)

4420 Sure sign: that pinched mouth facial expression even when not directly confronting someone… it just screams “I have no personal relationship with God and am miserable All. THE. TIME. because I don’t like myself.”
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:43 PM (FTXAT)

I refrained from saying that but I agree.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 20, 2017 01:49 PM (nvMvs)

45I think these people, mostly women, are indulging in 'ugly acceptance'.
They just stop trying to look nice, work out, etc. I see it a lot with
committed lesbians.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (3OIiX)

Ok... you just made Lyle Lovett's Glory of Love pop into my head:

Honey, put on some makeupAnd pile up your hairand at least try to do somethingwith what you got leftYou can tell me you love meTo put off my bluesBut what do you doWhen it quits being newshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVMML5y5u1U

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:49 PM (FTXAT)

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I assume whoopee has issues as she is actually proud that she did her service to PP ideals

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 01:50 PM (FKrah)

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Sure sign: that pinched mouth facial expression even when not directly confronting someone... it just screams "I have no personal relationship with God and am miserable All. THE. TIME. because I don't like myself."
Posted by: redbanza
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That's my SD.

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As for depression, I am 57 years old and have battled depression and
panic attacks since age 24. There are times when the struggle has been
unbearable.

I believe that liberals and conservatives struggle with mental
illnesses like depression in different ways. Liberals tend to let
depression define them, just as they let sexuality define them.

Conservatives treat depression as a disease to be battled, not as some badge to be proud of.--

I've had depression issues for about a decade or so, and have been off medication for about a year or so.

There were only a few people who knew I was depressed because I told them. As for everyone else, they had no clue.

Did not define me.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 01:52 PM (aT+Bx)

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i was upstate NY over the weekend; a friend of my hostesses' daughter came over to say hi in a store and i swear it was a Pat sighting. dopey shorts, day glo sneakers, short butch haircut, baggy shirt. Showed us a picture of her with her girlfriend. the kid was about 15. I don't get the connection between lesbian and chunky and unattractive.I mean, women have eyes, too, and are visual creatures...

Posted by: vivi at August 20, 2017 01:52 PM (11H2y)

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A dyspeptic look? Got one at work, always looks like she is annoyed. She is also the one who believes that since the military prescribes Viagra that they should have transgenders in the ranks also.

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As i have pointed out, i have seen some, though well dressed and made up, the bitter unhappy soul shines through. I really think the "demonic possession" theory and the "i really hate myself and anyone not as unhappy as me" theories are close to truth.

Somehow no make up nor pretty outfit can hide that hateful, ugly selfish, self pitying personality

6941 The demonic possession concept sure does explain a lot of what’s going on these days, and I think the soul and physical body are inextricably interdependent so…
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:48 PM (gwPgz)

Yet another place I wasn’t planning to go, because this isn’t a Christian blog.

Demonic possession is extremely rare, but demonic oppression is probably more common than I would like to admit.

Demons are certainly active on the left.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 20, 2017 01:57 PM (nvMvs)

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I will enjoy a crusty croissant and a sliver of Brie in honor of Jerry Lewis.

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The fundamental unhappiness of leftists stems from a lack of this simple concept:

"Lord grant me the courage to change the things I can change, the serenity to accept the things I can't change and the wisdom to know the difference."

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 01:58 PM (wPiJc)

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BTW, the idea of the personal being the political is especially well articulated by Mussolini in his repeated insistence that there is nothing spiritual or human outside the state. It is the very essence of totalitarianism, a word which he coined.

I have always considered it a pity that Mussolini's works are ignored. He was a far more important thinker than Hitler.

But then, it just wouldn't do for anyone to see how very close contemporary leftism is to real Fascism.

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I don't get the connection between lesbian and chunky and unattractive.---

Men are visual creatures.

Chunky and unattractive women do not want to work hard enough, or have the personality to overcome chunky and unattractive. So they can't get a guy.

So they go lesbian.

What I don't understand is attractive lesbians with fat and unattractive lesbian partners.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 01:59 PM (aT+Bx)

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If xe isn't happy it's because you're insufficiently
accepting, so work harder to appease every one of xer tantrums. If
they continue it's all your fault.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 01:55 PM (QlXV5)

It has been my contention for a while that such individuals have never grown beyond the id stage that defines toddlerhood.

As PJ O'Rourke said, the freedom such people want is a toddler's freedom to put things in their mouth with no consequences and not the adult freedom where rights come with the responsibility to deal with the consequences of your choices.

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Fenelon noted the other day that Lena D. is not objectively ugly, if you merely focus on her face only when wearing makeup. I'll concede that for the sake of argument.

When Vogue published an airbrushed, primped photo of DWS all made up and coiffed and with her ass slimmed by photoshop, she didn't objectively look half-bad. She *chooses* to wear mayo encrusted hair as her normal look.

Really, Hillary too, under the same conditions. Hell, some supermodels ain't all that when the makeup and glamor wear is off. And with botox and plastic surgery, wusi*not*wyg. A guy in South Korea sued his wife for false advertising as she had extensive face work done prior to them meeting. The baby, was, well, ugly. Looked like the unmodded mom.

Kinda funny, that one. Surface perceptions are just the start of how we view people.

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 20, 2017 02:01 PM (6jaju)

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Reminds me of an old Murphy's Law poster from my high school days - one of the "laws" on there was "Beauty is only skin deep...but ugly goes to the bone."

Posted by: BetaPhi at August 20, 2017 02:01 PM (R7JzZ)

86The fundamental unhappiness of leftists stems from a lack of this simple concept:

"Lord grant me the courage to change the things I can change, the serenity to accept the things I can't change and the wisdom to know the difference."

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 01:58 PM (wPiJc)

Absolutely. Serenity prayer. Part of the 12 step program. Step #9 is most important, though.

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We have an anorexic liberal at work. So very much not the TrigglyPuff syndrome and one of her few pleasures in life seems to be wearing the stylish clothes that look good only on that matchstick body type. But she is mostly unhappy and sees patriarchy, good old boys club etc where it does not exist; plus laments that her mom is not the typical 50s mom who cooks and talks mostly about her kids' accomplishments (she doesn't phrase it like that of course but it comes down to it)

Posted by: PaleRider at August 20, 2017 02:02 PM (8qFZP)

90Speaking of Ugly, that "comedian" Dick Gregory is now also mortadella.

I'm not sure how both Jerry Lewis and Dick Gregory cna be both be "comedians" when one was just an unfunny left-wing racist dooshbag.

I don't fully understand it, but it's common enough to be a cliche or a trope. Girly-girl and bull dyke.

Part of it, most women don't really know how to get another woman off. Might be a confidence thing. But bull dykes? They know what they want and how to get it. So you get a pretty girl who kinda-sorta thinks she might be gay, but none of her friends can do more than kiss and stuff. Then she meets an aggressive bull dyke who has male mannerisms and confidence and she makes her cum like nobody else ever has before.

And then there's the whole bonding over the forbidden part.

Yes, I think about this way too much. I dated too many lesbians and bi chicks. Way, way too many. I'm an idiot.

110As for depression, I am 57 years old and have battled depression and panic attacks since age 24. There are times when the struggle has been unbearable.

Try going on a bender. Alcohol fatigue leaves your mind so numb, there's not really any room to be depressed or anxious.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 02:09 PM (/qEW2)

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Yeah, I've always thought that conservatives (the "happy warriors") were better looking. We don't rely on others to make us happy, we just do it ourselves.

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 20, 2017 02:09 PM (XKZwp)

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I think these people, mostly women, are indulging in 'ugly acceptance'.
They just stop trying to look nice, work out, etc. I see it a lot with
committed lesbians.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (3OIiX)

Ok... you just made Lyle Lovett's Glory of Love pop into my head:

Honey, put on some makeup
And pile up your hair
and at least try to do something
with what you got left
You can tell me you love me
To put off my blues
But what do you do
When it quits being news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVMML5y5u1U
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:49 PM (FTXAT)

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I'm not oil planing myself so I don't really like talking about peoples looks negatively, but the old bromide is true which goes something like this "If you bring a smiling visage to the glass that's what you'll see." I think that's used in one of the Anne of Green Gables Books (Anne of Windy Poplars) where she's a teacher and there's a bitter unattractive teacher-Katherine-whom she works with. When she opens herself to life (with Anne's urging) and becomes interested in people she becomes more attractive. Probably also the more one concentrates on the blessings in on's life-or the things you're grateful for the more attractive you become. It doesn't mean you'll turn into swan physically speaking. It means you'll more likely radiate some warmth and joy which always improves one's appearance. The Anne of Green Gables series always emphasize the importance of attitude and so are a very good series for girls to read IMO.

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Part of it, most women don't really know how to get another woman off. Might be a confidence thing. But bull dykes? They know what they want and how to get it. So you get a pretty girl who kinda-sorta thinks she might be gay, but none of her friends can do more than kiss and stuff. Then she meets an aggressive bull dyke who has male mannerisms and confidence and she makes her cum like nobody else ever has before.

And then there's the whole bonding over the forbidden part.

Yes, I think about this way too much. I dated too many lesbians and bi chicks. Way, way too many. I'm an idiot.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 02:06 PM (3OIiX)

Friend of mine has a lesbian daughter. I remember watching he grow up--she was a cute little red headed little girl.
She has blossomed into a beautiful young lady. But her "husband" looks like a fat , stupid ,greasy ,ugly GUY, the type that if she was an ACTUAL guy would never pull in a chick as hot as this red-headed smoke show.
I can't get my mind around this.

Everybody from Homicide: Life on the Streets gets a lifetime pass from me.

They could elect Andre Braugher president of BLM and I'd go, "Eh, he's alright."

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 20, 2017 02:14 PM (4bKiB)

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Plus people with morals are targeted specifically. My 16 year old daughter who is determined to only have sex when she's married is ignored by some of the boys and mocked by the some of the girls. It's tough.

One of these things is not like the others
Posted by: Huh? at August 20, 2017 02:11 PM (OFO6c)

One's an antidepressant, one's an anti-anxiety medication, as the other's an anti-psychotic.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (0mRoj)

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I was watching daily Richard Belzer's late afternoon show around late 80's which was a live show, and saw when the wrestler knocked him out, a commercial break ended he was delirious and they cut right back to commercial. When that ended the producer was there and ended the show.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 02:16 PM (pPKG5)

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As for depression, I am 57 years old and have battled depression and panic attacks since age 24. There are times when the struggle has been unbearable

I have had it too, but it hasn't been really bad for a few years. I'm coming into depressive period now I think, but I'm trying to ward if off now with St John's Wort and Same-E and taking extra Vitamin D and being out in the sunshine. They have a new treatment which involves magnetic waves "shot into your brain" Don't know the technical name, and I'm explaining it really poorly but it's supposed to help a lot if one can afford the treatments

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 02:16 PM (iVOAv)

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I'm not oil planing myself so I don't really like
talking about peoples looks negatively, but the old bromide is true
which goes something like this "If you bring a smiling visage to the
glass that's what you'll see." I think that's used in one of the Anne
of Green Gables Books (Anne of Windy Poplars) where she's a teacher and
there's a bitter unattractive teacher-Katherine-whom she works with.
When she opens herself to life (with Anne's urging) and becomes
interested in people she becomes more attractive. Probably also the more
one concentrates on the blessings in on's life-or the things you're
grateful for the more attractive you become. It doesn't mean you'll
turn into swan physically speaking. It means you'll more likely radiate
some warmth and joy which always improves one's appearance. The Anne of
Green Gables series always emphasize the importance of attitude and so
are a very good series for girls to read IMO.

I couldn't agree more. Not funny at all. Just a jagoff with a microphone spewing garbage.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 02:16 PM (auHtY)

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Friend of mine has a lesbian daughter. I remember watching he grow up--she was a cute little red headed little girl.
She has blossomed into a beautiful young lady. But her "husband" looks like a fat , stupid ,greasy ,ugly GUY, the type that if she was an ACTUAL guy would never pull in a chick as hot as this red-headed smoke show.
I can't get my mind around this.
Posted by: Bill Cosby at August 20, 2017 02:13 PM (7uYFy)

Uff da. Sorry man. Hopefully she'll wake up at some point. That does happen sometimes. Girls drift from one side to the other, lots easier than guys do.

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Mrs. Clinger and I were at Krogers the other day doing some grocery shopping. I spotted what I will call a "male" wearing a touch of eyeliner, skinny boy jeans (black) with a black and white striped shirt.

I had my "grouchy old man" look going on, but this human? looked as if his pet rock just died.

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"Lord grant me the courage to change the things I can change, the serenity to accept the things I can't change and the wisdom to know the difference."

"Lord grant me the courage to change the things I can change, the serenity to accept the things I can't change and the wisdom to hide the bodies".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2017 02:17 PM (56iwG)

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Have to say that I despise 'hair band' politicians. Think about the 80s and the forgettable 'hair bands' and we seem to have waaaay too many in the (R) party (have Marco's hair plugs made his life better?). Instead of Bette Davis Eyes they have Political Hair.

That said, think about some Downs Syndrome people who are not conventionally attractive, but the love and kindness of their souls shine through.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 02:17 PM (MIKMs)

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My ding dong neighbor thinks a flagged pin represents our property line. I just showed him if true, his house is encroaching on my property. Stupid idiot.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 02:18 PM (PUmDY)

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If you are a nice person that can negate physical attributes. It's the inner uglyness that overwhelms what's on the outside.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2017 02:18 PM (P8ayj)

145"My 16 year old daughter who is determined to only have sex when she's
married is ignored by some of the boys and mocked by the some of the
girls. It's tough."

Choices have consequences. Good that she learns now.

Posted by: Huh? at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (OFO6c)

And the consequences of your daughter's choice are, other than mockery from some of her peers, very good.

'Police say Heyer was killed when a rally attendee, James A. Fields, 20, drove his sports car into a crowd of counter-protesters '

That was a sports car? And we are supposed to believe these people?

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2017 02:14 PM (P8ayj)

A Charger is more of a muscle car, but yeah. And I still can't get a straight answer. Did Fields plow his car into a "crowd" or the back of another car? I would think that big . heavy muscle car ,if aimed at and plowed into a crowd would cause a lot more death and destruction than he did.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 02:18 PM (7uYFy)

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deniro's name was Rupert something, can't believe it escapes me now

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"One's an antidepressant, one's an anti-anxiety medication, as the other's an anti-psychotic.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (0mRoj)"

Over simplified in the extreme, but close.

No, two of them you can get from a GP just by dispalying symptoms and asking.

Risperdal, you really have to have a problem, based on numerous tests, and it is for real dangerous.

It was...a poor choice to illustrate the point.

Posted by: Huh? at August 20, 2017 02:19 PM (OFO6c)

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Mrs. Clinger and I were at Krogers the other day doing some grocery shopping. I spotted what I will call a "male" wearing a touch of eyeliner, skinny boy jeans (black) with a black and white striped shirt.

I had my "grouchy old man" look going on, but this human? looked as if his pet rock just died.

He just realized nobody was buying his schtick.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2017 02:19 PM (56iwG)

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Friend of mine has a lesbian daughter. I remember watching he grow up--she was a cute little red headed little girl.
She has blossomed into a beautiful young lady. But her "husband" looks like a fat , stupid ,greasy ,ugly GUY, the type that if she was an ACTUAL guy would never pull in a chick as hot as this red-headed smoke show.
I can't get my mind around this.

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This is the enigma of a lot of lesbian fems. They're attractive enough to have an actual male, but for a partner they choose a woman who looks and acts like a guy (and usually, a really ugly one).

She's ugly, mostly, because of the ugliness that come out of her mouth. I could never understand how Sarah or Sandra Bernhart could get on my TV.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 02:19 PM (qAKlO)

She's only ugly from the neck up. If you mute/bag her, she's kinda hot.

159I don't get the connection between lesbian and chunky and unattractive.I mean, women have eyes, too, and are visual creatures...
Posted by: vivi at August 20, 2017 01:52 PM (11H2y)

My theory is that unattractiveness is a sign of mental illness. You don't have to be a supermodel, but happy, well-adjusted people will generally make the effort to wear properly fitting clothes that make them look nice, groom themselves, and watch their health. When people stop doing this, it's a sign of underlying issues. The lesbian connection is, IMHO, that a lot of these behaviors (including lesbian relationships) are because they want to avoid addressing their underlying issues.

It's also why progressives turn out so ugly. Progressivism doesn't make them unattractive, they're unattractive because they have other mental issues that also draw them to progressivism.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 20, 2017 02:23 PM (Tnhbr)

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Also, our initial perceptions of people and their mood/attitude is also influenced by the shape of their mouth and face. The Mooch is a classic example of resting bitch face, though she's got the chops to back it up.

Down in the mouth is a phrase used to describe someone who looks or sounds despondent or melancholy.

A very good friend of mine has a 'happy face'; he always looks like he is slightly smiling, and ready to burst into a shit eating grin. But I've been drunk with him many times, and he has his share + of melancholy.

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 20, 2017 02:23 PM (6jaju)

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I can remember thinking Janeane Garofalo was hot in the 1990s, and when finding pictures of her from back then...she was.

Left-wing hatred certainly does drain people like the Dark Side consumes the Sith.

Posted by: S at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM (poT2p)

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My ding dong neighbor thinks a flagged pin represents our property line.
I just showed him if true, his house is encroaching on my property.
Stupid idiot.=====

Some of my neighbors believe that their tax assessment means that they will get more for their property when they sell. OMG, I just can't believe the ignorance.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM (MIKMs)

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This is the enigma of a lot of lesbian fems. They're attractive enough to have an actual male, but for a partner they choose a woman who looks and acts like a guy (and usually, a really ugly one).

If this is what they want, why not find a genuine guy?
Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman at August 20, 2017 02:20 PM (c8EhQ)

This is indeed a mystery. They "hate" men, but pleasure each other by strapping on ( an often over-sized) replica of the very "thing" that makes a man a "man."
Wtf?
Gay guts don't wrap a replica of a vagina around their waists and fuck THAT.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)

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"My 16 year old daughter who is determined to only have sex when she's
married is ignored by some of the boys and mocked by the some of the
girls. It's tough."

Choices have consequences. Good that she learns now.

Posted by: Huh? at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (OFO6c)

And the consequences of your daughter's choice are, other than mockery from some of her peers, very good.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 02:18 PM (FTXAT)

I dunno. It's a high risk/high reward choice. I can't endorse celibacy before marriage, worked disastrously in my case.

I think she'd be better off finding a guy who treats her nicely and then rocking his socks off, using birth control. But I may be biased.

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>>>I never thought Billy Crystal, Robin Williams, and whoopi were funny after the year 1985.

I will respectfully disagree about Billy Crystal. But Robin Williams and Whoopi? Absolutely. Robin William's act devolved into two bits: his manic southern preacher or his manic Russian. I don't recall Whoopi ever being funny to begin with.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 20, 2017 02:25 PM (ppaKI)

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164 This is the enigma of a lot of lesbian fems. They're attractive enough to have an actual male, but for a partner they choose a woman who looks and acts like a guy (and usually, a really ugly one).

If this is what they want, why not find a genuine guy?
Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman at August 20, 2017 02:20 PM (c8EhQ)

This is indeed a mystery. They "hate" men, but pleasure each other by strapping on ( an often over-sized) replica of the very "thing" that makes a man a "man."
Wtf?
Gay guts don't wrap a replica of a vagina around their waists and fuck THAT.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)

Not too many lesbians are into strap ons. Mostly tongue and finger play. It's more common with bi chicks.

181
Speaking of left-wing politics making you ugly and crazy, I present to the court Jim Carrey and David Letterman.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ppaKI)

182Martin Short used to do a very funny Jerry Lewis impersonation on SCTV. There was one a spoof movie of Ingmar Bergman directing Jerry Lewis - Scenes from an Idiot's Marriage. All this serious talk at a dinner table and Jerry starts squirting seltzer on people. Oh Lady!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 02:32 PM (auHtY)

183
If this is what they want, why not find a genuine guy?
Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman at August 20, 2017 02:20 PM (c8EhQ)=====

Boys and men are icky and violent. Most of these poor little girls have been trained to think and believe that male=bad.

Aesthetically, Western Culture itself has always celebrated female beauty more than male, so there is a ready-made excuse. Have no idea what to think about the more, errr, unattractive females. The only committed pair I know very well are both attractive.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

184
My cousin is a hard-core lefty. She's also gained a bunch of weight as she's aged, and now is ugly and bitter. Hell, she turned on my sister after sis started to move to the right on gun control.

Cousin is also an alcoholic and a heavy smoker.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 20, 2017 02:34 PM (Tnhbr)

185
Boys and men are icky and violent. Most of these poor little girls have been trained to think and believe that male=bad.

Yet the most severe domestic violence injuries tend to appear with lesbian couples, so I understand.

Vermont Attorney General T.J. Donovan said his office has concluded an investigation into the invoices and billing practices of Dr. Jonathan Gruber, an economic consultant who contracted with the state to provide policy expertise, research and economic modeling for Vermont's abandoned single-payer healthcare system.

<snip>

Donovan said Thursday his office and Gruber reached an agreement to settle the state's potential legal claim that Gruber submitted false claims to the state under Vermont's Civil False Claims Act. Donovan said his office concluded that Gruber's conduct violated the Vermont Civil False Claims Act.

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 20, 2017 02:34 PM (6jaju)

187
181 Speaking of left-wing politics making you ugly and crazy, I present to the court Jim Carrey and David Letterman.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ppaKI)
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Letterman looks like he's 5 minutes away from the "writing a manifesto in a cabin" stage of lefty lunacy.

193
123 Plus people with morals are targeted specifically. My 16 year old daughter who is determined to only have sex when she's married is ignored by some of the boys and mocked by the some of the girls. It's tough.
Posted by: Jmel at August 20, 2017 02:14 PM (ZIfYC)
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Even if you want to date for several months, to actually ---oh, I dunno --- love and trust someone before physical intimacy, it's a problem today.

Back in the olden days, we might say that any man who won't wait for sex isn't worth a damn. But today that's not true. They aren't cads; they're just....human.

195Some of my neighbors believe that their tax assessment means that they will get more for their property when they sell. OMG, I just can't believe the ignorance.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM

They tried to sell a local tax increase by saying more money would make the schools better and better schools would increase property values which would lead to more money when the property owner sold.

The ballot issue failed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 02:36 PM (IqV8l)

196Yet the most severe domestic violence injuries tend to appear with lesbian couples, so I understand.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 02:34 PM (0mRoj)

Don't hold your breath waiting for a study to be published on domestic violence in same-sex couples.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 02:37 PM (q2ydF)

197
Even if you want to date for several months, to actually ---oh, I dunno --- love and trust someone before physical intimacy, it's a problem today.

Back in the olden days, we might say that any man who won't wait for sex isn't worth a damn. But today that's not true. They aren't cads; they're just....human.

198Don't hold your breath waiting for a study to be published on domestic violence in same-sex couples.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 02:37 PM (q2ydF)

We don't need no stinkin' statistics on unpossible events!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 02:38 PM (gwPgz)

199110 As for depression, I am 57 years old and have battled depression and panic attacks since age 24. There are times when the struggle has been unbearable.

Try going on a bender. Alcohol fatigue leaves your mind so numb, there’s not really any room to be depressed or anxious.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 02:09 PM (/qEW2)

I tried that for several years. It only made things worse.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 20, 2017 02:39 PM (nvMvs)

200
The progressive starts out with "the personal is political".
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Folks probably get tired of me posting this, but here it is a again, from a scene in Doctor Zhivago:

"Understand this: as the military struggle draws to a close, the political struggle intensifies. In the hour of victory, the military will have served its purpose - and all men will be judged POLITICALLY - regardless of their military record!"

That was the interview I was thinking of and would never knew prior to that his politics or that Jerry was a huge fan of Reagan.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 02:40 PM (auHtY)

203
I see now pro-Kaepernick protesters are calling for a boycott of the NFL.

Goodell has handled this masterfully, drawing boycotts of the league from both sides of the issue.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 20, 2017 02:40 PM (nNKHW)

204
Martin Short made Clifford and Bad Luck much funnier than the material.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (PUmDY)

205
Not too many lesbians are into strap ons. Mostly tongue and finger play. It's more common with bi chicks.
--Mark Andrew Edwards

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I can't decide if I want to know how you know this.

Was there a survey? A study?

No. Don't answer me.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (tOHeO)

206
"I'm noticing more and more, when I'm out and about in a large crowd, that
there are more "Pat's" in the world these days, if you know what I
mean.

Posted by: Boots"

Know lots of Hispanics through my wife and go to lots of their parties and event. There is absolutely none of this gender confusion among them, men act like men, women act like women and aren't the east bit apologetic about any of it. of it. Indeed they are barely aware of the cultural war sweeping the country and would never tolerate the latest liberal fads. They are not the target of this BS, it is only White People that are being beaten down like this. Very refreshing to be around since, even though it is a sad to know they are our replacements.

John Kennedy Toole's "A Confederacy of Dunces" has an episode with two lesbians beating the shit out of each other. A book from which no movie will ever be made. Thank God.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (WhQ8B)

208Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation-That's the treatment for depression a which I couldn't recall the name for.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 02:22 PM (iVOAv)

I've seen them use that on an Aspy type guy with interesting results. YouTube search 'Ingenuous Minds Asperger Savant' for about a 21 minute video.
or...
http://www.autismkey.com/the-ingenious-mind-of-john-e-robison/

They pretend to be nice, God fearing, patriotic, and of good cheer but only insomuch as they can tell other people what to do and how to live.

The real side comes out when you tell them to shut their pie holes and mind their own business.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (5VlCp)

210
"And I still can't get a straight answer. Did Fields plow his car into a 'crowd' or the back of another car?"

Both, really. A possible interpretation of events:

It looks like Fields was expecting for people to safely scatter out of the way of his oncoming vehicle. That's the way it had worked for him further up the street. There's photo evidence of people doing this.

Thing is, up the street, the density of people on foot was low.

Further down the street, at the intersection, the density of people on foot went way up. There was a huge crowded bolus of counterdemonstrators that had just flowed around the corner. Surrounding two cars and preventing them from moving.

Fields didn't realize what he was driving into. He couldn't see the stopped cars beyond the people in front of him, and he also didn't realize that the crowd there became much more dense beyond its outer rows.

So suddenly, instead of people running and jumping out of the way of his car, as previously, Fields now had people *trying* to get out of the way of his car but unable to do so because there wasn't enough room for them to move quickly.

Also, those deeper in the crowd simply might not have seen him coming, with their own sight lines blocked by those in the outer layers of the crowd.

Fields panic brakes (again backed up by photo evidence) but too late.

His car runs into a couple of those people who couldn't move or didn't see it coming, and then hits the back of one of the stopped cars at the intersection. Starting the chain reaction billard-table collision that killed Heather Heyer.

His car is physically attacked at once, and Fields reverses to get away from those attackers, running over several more people as he does so.

Note that there's a purported eyewitness who says that Fields, after the initial collision with crowd and car, reversed and then "went in again". There's absolutely no evidence to support this claim. There's continuous post-impact video showing otherwise. But it's being repeated nevertheless.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 02:42 PM (ujwCG)

211Letterman looks like he's 5 minutes away from the "writing a manifesto in a cabin" stage of lefty lunacy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

At least Kzxxfyzyxdssski was a genuine intellect. Letterman went to Ball State, where he apparently studied TV and radio. Sounds rigorous.

214
John Kennedy Toole's "A Confederacy of Dunces" has an episode with two lesbians beating the shit out of each other. A book from which no movie will ever be made. Thank God.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (WhQ8B)

Well it has Confederacy in the title so it must be racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 02:43 PM (auHtY)

215
I know that is not always possible to choose to have a great day, but I think it helps to try.
Posted by: Picric at August 20, 2017 02:39 PM (uvAuw)
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Yes it does. You do have control over how you react to the day given you, and being pleasant to others makes them deeply suspicious and that makes me smile even brighter.

225
David Thompson, whom incidentally I spotted in the comments section a couple of days ago, has discovered an article in The Atlantic that proves beyond a doubt we haven't reached peak stupidity yet.

The solar system is racist. The path of the eclipse totality is nearly barren of blacks, you see.

As Dave Barry sez, I am not making this up.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8rlhc8z

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 20, 2017 02:48 PM (6jaju)

226216
Garofalo used to be fairly vocal during the W years and the early T
party. I'm frankly a bit amazed she has so far been invisible (the best I
can tell) during the Trump administration.

228That doesn't include ignorant Dumb People, who are the most useless and dangerous people in the world.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 02:46 PM (qAKlO)

I prefer the Hammerstein-Equord classification. Most dangerous: stupid and industrious.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 02:49 PM (cSPtn)

229You mean like "Ignorance is bliss" and all that? Yep. I totally think that.

I have read that intelligent people tend to be more pessimistic because they analyze things to the point of seeing potential problems.

I'm not sure that I have read any studies correlating intelligence to depression.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 20, 2017 02:49 PM (nNKHW)

230216 Garofolo used to be fairly vocal during the W years and the early T party. I'm frankly a bit amazed she has so far been invisible (the best I can tell) during the Trump administration.

Ms. Garofolo suffers from advanced syphilis.

Posted by: J. Garofolo Doctor at August 20, 2017 02:49 PM (mcI77)

231
Probably already mentioned, but RS McCain is so good at documenting/deconstructing the mental illness and its associated outer ugliness of feminism, which goes for progressiveism as well.

He'll do a feminist instagram search and will invariably find a young gal who has embraced feminism, and her before pictures are sweet and cute, and her after feminism pics are just ugliness, like you can't *not* show how corrupted you've become from the inside out.

232If this is what they want, why not find a genuine guy?
Posted by: Eric Stratton

Never really known a lesbian, but I'd guess although physically similar to a guy, and though sporting a dildo, there is still something qualitatively different about their personalities from a real man. You know the stereotypes about different demographics of women: asians are docile, hispanics are "hot blooded", africans are aggressive. These characteristics can be a turn off/on for certain people, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were some subtle difference between real men and bulldykes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 02:49 PM (/qEW2)

233remember the movie with young Jerry Lewis trying to become a policeman?

I agree with you. Depression and panic attacks are an integral part of my personality. They are just as much a part of me as the fact that I have two arms and two legs.

However, much of the battle is spiritual. I am a man who has depression and panic attacks, not some sort of depressed being who happens to be a man.

I’m sure you know that many, many great figures throughout history have suffered from depression or worse. Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln would not have been the men they were without depression.

249I have read that intelligent people tend to be more pessimistic
because they analyze things to the point of seeing potential problems.

I've taken to a spreadsheet model for making important decisions by listing all the pluses and minuses of making that decision one way or the other and assigning 'weights' to each and every variable involved.

Then, in the end, thrown my hands up in the air when the final score is really *too* close to call. If it's that close - then I do nothing.

So, I'm not pessimistic or optimistic afterwards. Or depressed. The science is settled.

252Look at it this way: Who's going to enjoy the sandwich more, the guy who saw the dirty grubby cook make it, or the guy who didn't?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 02:53 PM (qAKlO)
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I remember MAD Magazine had a piece on dieting while dining out:

"Always enter a Chinese restaurant through the kitchen."

Which reminds me of a really awful Nat Lamp cartoon. In the alley behind a Chinese restaurant, a guy is kneeling next to a hobo, placing a big bowl next to the bum's mouth. "Hey, tell Wang we can put Hot Sour Soup back on the menu!"

265
252
Look at it this way: Who's going to enjoy the sandwich more, the guy who saw the dirty grubby cook make it, or the guy who didn't?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 02:53 PM (qAKlO)

273
Saw somewhere that Kraperdinck is going to have a display in the "African-American" history museum (Smithsonian) - specifically due to his stupid protests. And specifically linked to his BLM support.

Savor that for a bit.

A hate group with lots of blood on its hands (to the extent incitement = blood on hands) - in fact perhaps with the fresh blood of two FL cops, just yesterday - will be noted and highlighted in a Smithsonian museum.

But don't worry - concealing and destroying and distorting and demonizing real history, and celebrating criminals and racists and idiots, is not a sign of a civic culture with a gigantic impulse towards totalitarian degradation.

276
I just had an encounter with a Pat, female I think. I was driving behind another death-spewing, evil internal combustion engine powered vehicle who slowed on a narrow two lane black top to pass and avoid killing Fatty Patty saving the Erf by riding a bicycle. The evil driver was rewarded for his concern by being flipped off by Fatty Patty. When I passed it, I got the same. I guess we're all supposed to live life at 10 mph.

307I can still deadlift over 400lbs with no belt, no wraps, with a double-over hand grip. I'm still a Force to be reckoned with.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 03:16 PM (qAKlO)
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You're a lesbian?!

Pauline Kael, the late New Yorker movie critic, wasn't much impressed with Streep. Wrote something once about how she was too "studied" and that one could never remember or envision her physical body--it didn't seem connected to her somehow.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at August 20, 2017 03:20 PM (LQLeS)

311
This is the enigma of a lot of lesbian fems. They're
attractive enough to have an actual male, but for a partner they choose
a woman who looks and acts like a guy (and usually, a really ugly one).

This is indeed a mystery. They "hate" men, but pleasure each other
by strapping on ( an often over-sized) replica of the very "thing" that
makes a man a "man."

Wtf?

Gay guts don't wrap a replica of a vagina around their waists and fuck THAT.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)

Most of the lesbians I know or know of have been abused and are afraid of guys.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 03:20 PM (FTXAT)

312
i love "Crippled Inside." "Imagine" however, has become the call to worship in the Atheist Church of the Zombie Apocolypse.

leftards, for short.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 03:20 PM (5O20Y)

313
I just had an encounter with a Pat, female I think. I was driving behind another death-spewing, evil internal combustion engine powered vehicle who slowed on a narrow two lane black top to pass and avoid killing Fatty Patty saving the Erf by riding a bicycle. The evil driver was rewarded for his concern by being flipped off by Fatty Patty. When I passed it, I got the same. I guess we're all supposed to live life at 10 mph.

315
Most of the fat, deliberately unattractive lesbians I've known made a conscious lifestyle choice due to having been sexually abused as a child. They want to erase themselves from the eye of men. And to a large degree that's true. Men ignore fat unattractive women. Safety.

318
SNL today could never do the Pat skits--they'd be considered transphobic.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at August 20, 2017 03:22 PM (LQLeS)

319
"Saw somewhere that Kraperdinck is going to have a display in the 'African-American' history museum (Smithsonian)"

The Smithsonian succumbed to the left's "long march through the institutions" many years ago now.

Exhibit A: the grossly historically inaccurate and flatly insulting original display of the _Enola Gay_ at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum.

The one which blamed anti-Asian racism for Americans nuking Hiroshima. Without any mention of that, y'know, little Pearl Harbor business preceding.

Nor anything about the colossal number of Asians living in other Asian countries who Imperial Japan had invaded, economically expropriated, starved, raped, exiled, worked to death, forced into sex slavery, used for bayonet practice, and so forth.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 03:22 PM (ujwCG)

320I believe that SJWs and crybullies, as an aggregate, have a greater inclination toward depression and other forms of mental illness than conservatives do.

Got here late, but I'm just throwing this out there. Could drug abuse play a role in this? I don't mean occasionally smoking a joint. Take a twenty five year old "activist", who still lives at his parents' home, rather than working enough to have his own place, is he more likely to abuse drugs? People who abuse drugs age poorly.

"Canada is an open and welcoming society. But let me be clear. We are also a country of laws. Entering Canada irregularly is not an advantage. There are rigorous customs and immigration rules that will be followed."

"Irregular entry", I guess, is the even dumber Canadian euphemism for "undocumented," the idiotic American euphemism for "illegal".

Why, I'm half expecting to see the Economist run a crude, slanderous, Der Sturmer-like cartoon on their cover of Trudeau as a racist rabblerouser.

I'm with you on Lewis Black. I've found funny moments from The Beltz and Richard Lewis. I think Richard just needs therapy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Have any of you seen recent pictures of David Letterman? Yikes!

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 20, 2017 03:26 PM (+lVUW)

323
Grammie, thank you. They want to erase themselves from the eye of men. And to a large degree that's true. Men ignore fat unattractive women. Safety.

i wrote a short story over 20 years ago with a beautiful young woman as the protagonist, whose main focus was her beauty and the enhancement of it. She was attacked by a strange man, and the last image of the story is her reflected face, beautiful but afraid.

331
Yes, torque, I lived in DC at the time. And only the intervention of Greatest Generation folks, rightly outraged at the distortion and lies of the original exhibit, saved the day.

How much the racist barbarian totalitarians (WTF is this "left" nonsense, anyway?) have advanced, or how much conditions have evolved to their advantage, was illustrated by the (still unbelievable) outrage of blocking Honor Flight octogenarians from the WWII memorial during the ridiculous "shutdown" kabuki.

That Obama and his band of idiot arsonists could get away with this, politically - that virtually nobody even raised an objection - still makes it hard to believe something like Trump is possible. And with the Confederate monument/memorial jihad, we're seeing that erasing and distorting history is still a top priority of the barbarians.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 03:29 PM (cJDvr)

332Have any of you seen recent pictures of David Letterman? Yikes!
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 20, 2017 03:26 PM

334
I've long said that a woman's beauty is advertising for her heart. Actual hearts are rather rare on the left- so what you see is what you get. On team Goebbels all I see is a lot of Virtue signaling, and a lot of Attitude - all pretending to be emotion. When the body figures out there is no heart to advertise; the Ugly shows up like a rooting herd of Feral Hogs.

338Most of the fat, deliberately unattractive lesbians I've known made a conscious lifestyle choice due to having been sexually abused as a child. They want to erase themselves from the eye of men. And to a large degree that's true. Men ignore fat unattractive women. Safety.

Posted by: grammie winger

Most children/teens abused by men become homosexual (Milo, Mr. Sulu, Ellen Degeneres, etc.). Although much rarer, it would be interesting to see a study on how the sexuality of minor victims of female abusers is affected.

348
Irregular entrantsPosted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 03:27 PM (IqV8l)--- an accurate description of the sex life of married men...

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 20, 2017 03:35 PM (HbNSs)

349
Can't believe I used to like David Letterman.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 03:29 PM (3OIiX)

--I thought he was funny in the late '80s/early '90s. No coincidence that he was not very political back then.

Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2017 03:36 PM (GsAUU)

350315 Most of the fat, deliberately unattractive lesbians I've known made a conscious lifestyle choice due to having been sexually abused as a child. They want to erase themselves from the eye of men. And to a large degree that's true. Men ignore fat unattractive women. Safety.

Posted by: grammie winger

I've known 3 lesbians. I don't know anything about sexual abuse, but regarding their appearance?
They wear what a friend of mine refers to as "the uniform".
They are overweight. They have shapeless haircuts and their hair is an uninteresting shade of brown.
They wear loose-fitting, shapeless docker type pants, cotton, button down shirts, and sensible shoes. They wear no make-up. It really does look like they want to be unattractive to men.

The gay men that I know, on the other hand, fit the Seinfeld description. They aren't as flamboyant as the people you see in the media. They dress very nicely and are well groomed.

I suspect that, generally, there is a difference in why men are gay, and women are gay.

352
Most children/teens abused by men become homosexual (Milo, Mr. Sulu, Ellen Degeneres, etc.). Although much rarer, it would be interesting to see a study on how the sexuality of minor victims of female abusers is affected.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 03:32 PM (/qEW2)

--Don't forget Chastity Bono.

At one point I was sorry for her, but she's made a flaming shitbag of her life the last few years.

Yes, I think this is the clearest evidence that he didn't drive into the crowd *in order* to run people down.

Also: an Antifa guy with a flag/bat steps out and hits his car in the back bumper, right before he plows into the crowd. How fast could he have been going at that point? I figure Fields must have come almost to a stop, for it to have been possible for the guy to step out and whack him. And then he probably guns it after the guy hits his car.

Finally: I couldn't find it to link, but somebody has that photo showing him with his brake lights on, but they've captioned it something like "Fields accelerates toward a crowd of protestors."

*sigh*

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 20, 2017 03:41 PM (4bKiB)

354
I suspect that, generally, there is a difference in why men are gay, and women are gay.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 20, 2017 03:36 PM (+lVUW)

- In the bio that recently came out about Johnny Carson, it's claimed that one of Carson's requirements of Letterman, in order to get the 12:30 slot after the Tonight Show, is that Letterman *had* to avoid politics on his show.

- I've also read that privately, Cher is completely broken up about Chastity, and was *against* him/her changing genders. But Cher can't say that publicly, because she's all about being super-liberal-PC. Frankly I think she deserves the aggravation, as Cher's turned out to be only slightly less hateful than Rosie O'Donnell lately (and btw I think Rosie is extremely bitter today about being all but forgotten by the same public that used to love her).

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 03:44 PM (eMKNe)

359
Research shows us all the really hawt lesbians hang out in spas giving massages.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 03:44 PM (Sfs6o)

360? My grandparents had an entire barn, floor to loft, stuffed with firewood

365
"If it feels good, do it" isn't a recipe for a long, healthy life...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 03:47 PM (MINbv)

366
352 Most children/teens abused by men become homosexual (Milo, Mr. Sulu, Ellen Degeneres, etc.). Although much rarer, it would be interesting to see a study on how the sexuality of minor victims of female abusers is affected.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 03:32 PM (/qEW2)

A LOT of gay guys I knew from my Theater days were molested young.

I didn't get to know most of the lesbians I knew well enough to get into personal histories. I will say most of the sexually active girls I knew were 'sexualized' young. Early teens. Even split between the ones who were out doing and those who were 'done to'.

I'd be interested in that kind of study too. There's a window of sexual experimentation. Too early and it seems to warp you, too late....also warps you.

367
361 We all need to dress to the nines tomorrow and exude Hordechismo/-a like sexual pulsars. It's the eclipse!

It might immanentize the Hotpocalypse.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 03:45 PM (QGoUX)

I'll settle for the return of the Elder Gods to destroy all that lives on the earth.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 03:48 PM (0mRoj)

368
"For in much wisdom is much grief,
And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.". Book of Ecclesiastes 1:18

Posted by: T Bone, Mr. T Bone at August 20, 2017 03:49 PM (6OUBL)

369
- I've also read that privately, Cher is completely
broken up about Chastity, and was *against* him/her changing genders.
But Cher can't say that publicly, because she's all about being
super-liberal-PC. Frankly I think she deserves the aggravation, as
Cher's turned out to be only slightly less hateful than Rosie O'Donnell
lately (and btw I think Rosie is extremely bitter today about being all
but forgotten by the same public that used to love her).

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 03:44 PM (eMKNe)

Also, Cher let a lesbian friend abuse her daughter and then dismissed her daughter's upset.

374
319 - If we had a GOP worth a damn, there would be an effort to defund the Smithsonian over this kind of thing. Even a modest budget cut would no doubt send enough of a message to produce a course correction. But Republicans apparently are content to pay for a war on coservative values.

Chastity will probably cash in bigly with a book about his/her famous parents, once they're both gone. I think I've already heard that Chas considers father Sonny to have been by far the most loving one.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 03:51 PM (eMKNe)

379
Think Whoopie looks like the Predator now, just wait 'til she smiles.

Sure he made some stink bombs and his telethon was a pain in the ass and Dean Martin carried him when they were a team, but I always liked him.

"Hardly Working" was a documentary he did about the average federal employee. Way ahead of it's time.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 03:52 PM (5VlCp)

383
Although much rarer, it would be interesting to see a study on how the sexuality of minor victims of female abusers is affected.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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That's the story of my SD - molested by females when about 6-7.

Chastity will probably cash in bigly with a book about his/her
famous parents, once they're both gone. I think I've already heard that
Chas considers father Sonny to have been by far the most loving one.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 03:51 PM (eMKNe)

Chastity already wrote a memoir and confesses that her mom's lesbian friend "Joan" (pseudonym used in the book to protect the guilty) "seduced" her when she was 11. When Cher found out about it, her reported response was that it was "a good life experience" for her daughter. Cher did nothing after that to remove this grown pervert from her child's life but let the abuse continue.

393
>>>A LOT of gay guys I knew from my Theater days were molested young.

Males who were molested as boys/teens who later become gay always reminds me of a Carole Burnett skit. Quasimodo (Korman) kidnaps Burnett and takes her into the belltower. All the time she is screaming in terror. But then he puts her under the bell and starts ringing it. Her rescuers arrive, but when they remove her from under the bell, she has all the same mannerisms as Quasimodo. As a kid, I found it a bit disturbing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 03:58 PM (/qEW2)

394Go to Harbor Freight for that 10mm doo-hickey!
Posted by: I See Dead People

Then go back next week and buy another one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 03:59 PM (IqV8l)

395
Tammy Bruce has talked about lesbians preying on young teen girls as one element (among others) that can influence sexual development.

Say, did you know that Lena Dunham's little sister is a lesbian?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 03:59 PM (0jtPF)

396
393 >>>A LOT of gay guys I knew from my Theater days were molested young.

Males who were molested as boys/teens who later become gay always reminds me of a Carole Burnett skit. Quasimodo (Korman) kidnaps Burnett and takes her into the belltower. All the time she is screaming in terror. But then he puts her under the bell and starts ringing it. Her rescuers arrive, but when they remove her from under the bell, she has all the same mannerisms as Quasimodo. As a kid, I found it a bit disturbing.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 03:58 PM (/qEW2)

398
368 "For in much wisdom is much grief,
And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.". Book of Ecclesiastes 1:18
Posted by: T Bone, Mr. T Bone at August 20, 2017 03:49 PM (6OUBL)

--Ecclesiastes: One of the finest pieces of literature ever written.

Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2017 04:00 PM (GsAUU)

399
I've given up on special lubes "white grease".
I use chain lube, about three dollars a spray can. It's the kind for linked chain, not chain saw. It seems to last much longer and is much more resistant to environmental conditions.

429
Now that the Smart People are concerned almost exclusively about judging and being judged based on what people look like and desperately want to appear to be, I have zero problems judging people based on their appearances.
Want to tuck your penis between your legs, try to swish when you walk, and insist that you're a chick based solely on stereotypes of women?

Fine. I'm ramping up my situational awareness any and every time ANY black person enters the gas station, bank, library, etc. because of those same reasons.

430
428 CBD is putting his Taco Bell haul into a Dean and DeLucca bag for the trip home through Hipsterville.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 04:15 PM (QGoUX)

431At the time she came out as lesbian, it was reported that she told Sonny, a republican, first. She was more concerned about telling Cher.

Posted by: nerdygirl

I'd guess her trust in Cher was broken at that point. "She was supposed to protect me ... there's no point in confiding anything in her".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 04:18 PM (/qEW2)

432
428 CBD is putting his Taco Bell haul into a Dean and DeLucca bag for the trip home through Hipsterville.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 04:15 PM (QGoUX)

Taco Bell is fine as long as he eats it ironically.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:18 PM (0mRoj)

433
Speaking of the ugly that God does not like: http://tinyurl.com/y9j6tz6o

"antifascist" protesters were throwing urine filled bottles and rocks at the police. And trying their best to get their hand on the free speech folks that the police spent hours trying to get out of the riot zone.

435
431 At the time she came out as lesbian, it was reported that she told Sonny, a republican, first. She was more concerned about telling Cher.

Posted by: nerdygirl

I'd guess her trust in Cher was broken at that point. "She was supposed to protect me ... there's no point in confiding anything in her".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 04:18 PM (/qEW2)

Man. That makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Betraying your own kid to a predator. Jesus.

"antifascist" protesters were throwing urine filled bottles and rocks at the police. And trying their best to get their hand on the free speech folks that the police spent hours trying to get out of the riot zone.

None of this made the local Fake News. Instead, my local Fake News spun the whole day as counter-protesters standing up to hate.

437
432 428 CBD is putting his Taco Bell haul into a Dean and DeLucca bag for the trip home through Hipsterville.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 04:15 PM (QGoUX)

Taco Bell is fine as long as he eats it ironically.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:18 PM (0mRoj)

Taco Bell would be considered fine dining if they ever brought back the Bell Burger. My go to when I was a kid.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 04:19 PM (LuKE7)

438
There are a number of articles on the internet on same sex domestic violence. Here's one:

442
How much tork are you putting on this socket or are you trying to remove a nut thats stuck?

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 04:21 PM (pPKG5)

443
"antifascist" protesters were throwing urine
filled bottles and rocks at the police. And trying their best to get
their hand on the free speech folks that the police spent hours trying
to get out of the riot zone.

None of this made the local Fake News. Instead, my local Fake News spun the whole day as counter-protesters standing up to hate.

447
Would gladly eat taco bell if I had any confidence in the people making the food. Have to find one with some well-raised happy high school kids working there. Not one with a bunch of career employees.

450
antifascist" protesters were throwing urine filled bottles and rocks at the police. And trying their best to get their hand on the free speech folks that the police spent hours trying to get out of the riot zone.

None of this made the local Fake News. Instead, my local Fake News spun the whole day as counter-protesters standing up to hate.

-
Bill Mahr twats that the right form militias while the left form drum circles.

451
446
Is this the sister she (Dunham) molested?
Posted by: gNewt at August 20, 2017 04:26 PM (uoaXf)
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Yes.
But as Steve and Cold Bear (#445) points out, their parents were so creepy that you'd expect some kind of deviancy anyway.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 04:30 PM (0jtPF)

452
When I was in college Taco John's was always preferred over Taco Bell. But either was good enough when you were good 'n" drunk.

You should always get the soft shells because they are easier on the way back up.

455
I should comment here more often, but I still read everyday because I enjoy gems like these that make my dog wonder what the fuck is wrong with me:

"I lick women..."

ROTFLMAO! Me too!

Posted by: Afroman at August 20, 2017 04:31 PM (xLcDl)

456
We just got a new one near-ish me. Wish they were open on Sundays so I could get some chicken and biscuits before work today.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 04:30 PM (3OIiX)
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I think you need to make up for it by going twice tomorrow. You can always blame it on the eclipse.

Yep. Went to one a week or so ago. The girl was going to hand me a bag with some fries in it when the bag tore. She tossed the fries got a new bag and put new fries in the bag completely unprompted. Heck, I would have been happy with a new bag.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:32 PM (0wem/)

458
456 We just got a new one near-ish me. Wish they were open on Sundays so I could get some chicken and biscuits before work today.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 04:30 PM (3OIiX)
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I think you need to make up for it by going twice tomorrow. You can always blame it on the eclipse.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 04:31 PM (UoSKV)

Yes, the trauma of losing the sun may require two milkshakes tomorrow.

467
"For in much wisdom is much grief,
And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.". Book of Ecclesiastes 1:18Posted by: T Bone, Mr. T Bone at August 20, 2017 03:49 PM (6OUBL)--- ignorance is bliss, and i'm surrounded by happy people. Book Of redc1c4 #148267

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 20, 2017 04:36 PM (HbNSs)

468
Breitbart has some interesting articles, but it's not even worth it to read the comments. I tried today-again-Over 10,0000 comments on one article?! I read about 100. The trolls come out in force there-"Trump has betrayed us" Cruz was always the better choice. I'm convinced that a lot of these people are leftists trying to sow dissension. Uggh1

The real side comes out when you tell them to shut their pie holes and mind their own business.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 02:41 PM (5VlCp)

That's one of Mrs. Cop's sisters and her husband. Both of those sets of in-laws have been rocked back on their heels when I quite bluntly tell them to fvkc off when they try to pull their Lefty crap into family gatherings.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 04:37 PM (5Yee7)

471
Unchained Melody was a hit long before the Righteous Bros. By a blind singer named Al Hibbler if I recall.Posted by: middyfeek at August 20, 2017 04:34 PM (ykVjl)---sounds like a Nazi to me... off with his head!

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 04:34 PM (UoSKV)
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I put together a cookbook once.
It's a much tougher job than it would seem.
Bigly!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 04:38 PM (0jtPF)

474
Taco Bell would be considered fine dining if they ever brought back the Bell Burger. My go to when I was a kid.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 04:19 PM (LuKE7) .On a related note: the oldest Del Taco (the one on 1st St in Barstow) still serves the Bun Taco. In fact, they still have all the original menu items.

476
I know a number of happy liberals. They are not extreme leftists, They are liberals. The difference may be that all of them are people of religious faith. They are not throwing feces, urine and rocks ad cops and free speech activists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 04:38 PM (iVOAv)

477
463 It's coming, Eris, slowly, but it's coming. I'm the holdup by the way, not Weasel. It's just a lot to go through. Plus, I get hungry when I work on it. It's the strangest thing.

487
468 Breitbart has some interesting articles, but it's not even worth it to read the comments......
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 04:36 PM (iVOAv)
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Agreed.
Same might be said for Weasel Zippers.

The only place where I regularly read the comments (other than here) is Belmont Club.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 04:42 PM (0jtPF)

488
Breitbart has some interesting articles, but it's
not even worth it to read the comments. I tried today-again-Over 10,0000
comments on one article?! I read about 100. The trolls come out in
force there-"Trump has betrayed us" Cruz was always the better choice.
I'm convinced that a lot of these people are leftists trying to sow
dissension. Uggh1

499
Y5, no matter how carefully I choose my words here, I can never not do something that someone will pounce on.
Posted by: bluebell at August

Well, it is not you, it is your audience. Some people are just sitting around looking for the smallest mistake or error to pounce upon. Hard working with people like that.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:47 PM (0wem/)

500I know a number of happy liberals. They are not extreme leftists, They are liberals. The difference may be that all of them are people of religious faith. They are not throwing feces, urine and rocks ad cops and free speech activists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

There's another difference. Luke reads very 'liberal'. But it never suggests that people try to implement a kind of Communist regime over all of Judea. Its principles are always exhortations aimed at the individual. Even in the communalism in Acts there is nothing coercive about it. As long as your friends dedicate their time and resources to causes they feel passionate about, more power to them.

For what is basically a very basic menu drive through, the staff there are consistently the nicest and most pleasant people I've ever encountered in a fast food joint!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (gwPgz)

506Y5, no matter how carefully I choose my words here, I can never not do something that someone will pounce on.Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 04:45 PM

Be like a New York Yankees fan, my friend.

Posted by: zombie Bruce Lee at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (DMUuz)

507
'Breitbart has some interesting articles, but it's not even worth it to read the comments. I tried today-again-Over 10,0000 comments on one article?! I read about 100. The trolls come out in force there'

Is there another conservative site with good intelligent comment sections? I'm down to just this one at the moment.

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (XsVWn)

508Y5, no matter how carefully I choose my words here, I can never not do something that someone will pounce on.
Posted by: bluebell

WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!?!?!?!?!?!?

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (eMKNe)

509
For what is basically a very basic menu drive through, the staff there are consistently the nicest and most pleasant people I've ever encountered in a fast food joint!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August

yep

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:50 PM (0wem/)

510
I know this is sacrilege but my last 2 trips to Chick Fila have not been great...

And we will now find out if CBD is hanging around because he will not be able to let that go by.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 04:42 PM (DAcPP)
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Oh, and that event we were discussing yesterday?

Never been done before.
So... World Record!

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)

514Meh, on the blog continuum Breitbart is closer to InfoWars than it is to the HQ.

HotAir is closer to Huffpo than it is to the HQ.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:44 PM (0wem/)

I'd interpret that as AoSHQ is a singularity on the web!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 04:51 PM (gwPgz)

515So are we still doing phrasing? Is it even breathing hard?
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:43 PM (0wem/)
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I was gonna go there, but knew others would grab the low-hanging fruit for me.

516
As people are deciding whether they will take down statues (The GA doofus from VA wants statues of Lee to come down. Duke University in NC has already done so, I believe) I was reminded of this quote by Robert E. Lee, He was once asked his opinion of a fellow officer who was widely known as one of Lee's greatest detractors. The General responded that he thought the man a very fine officer. "But, General," his questioner asked, quite perplexed, "I guess you don't know what's he been saying about you." "Oh, yes, I do," replied Lee. "But I was asked my opinion of him, not his opinion of me."

Used it this morning in a sermon on praying for and loving our enemies

The old saw "money can't buy you happiness, but with money you can choose your own misery" has more than an ounce of truth to it.

I've always thought that the most important advantage of money is choice. It opens up multiple options in life. The most soul-destroying part of being poor is the thought that you can't pull yourself out of the death spiral because you only have a small number of options, all of which are oriented towards survival rather than building a better life.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 20, 2017 04:53 PM (iFZVz)

521
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:43 PM (0wem/)
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I was gonna go there, but knew others would grab the low-hanging fruit for me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August

Well a gentleman never makes a lady pick her own fruit wherever it is.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:53 PM (0wem/)

522
Hotair for the most part to me is links to Leftist sites, I do occasionally see what their up to.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 04:53 PM (pPKG5)

523
More appropriate for the food thread but the chicken Caesar wrap at Tim Hortons is mighty tasty.

529
464 Same trip to Chick-Fil-A two guys from the Five Guys next door walked in, in their uniforms, to order lunch.

Pretty sure the three guys back at their store were not happy about this.
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 04:34 PM (0wem/)

--I've seen Carl's Jr. employees at a Taco Bell a few times.

I guess one can get sick of even free food after a while.

Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2017 04:54 PM (GsAUU)

530
Remember that twilight zone episode where the snobby family was waiting for the rich uncle to kick off, but the old dude made them wear masks, and when they took them off their faces were disfigured and reflected their inner self?

Yeah, that's leftists, but they are such high degree assholes they don't need the fucking mask to bring out the inner ugly.

We got a platter of nugs for my sister's baby shower, and frankly, they tasted/felt like they were made the day before or something.

But, the 2nd to last time I went, one of my pieces of chicken was just plain nasty. Black/blue on the inside. Blech.

Last time I went, my wait was 20 minutes, and by the time I got my food....the chicken was dry.

But, I've always loved them so much, I keep going back, hoping for the best.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (smD62)

535Is there another conservative site with good intelligent comment sections? I'm down to just this one at the moment.
Posted by: phineas gage at Augusof
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Ricochet is good. There is a modest fee to be a full member but there is a nice cadre of regulars there.

536
Ugh. Speaking of warped...I go to the grocery store and immediately feel uncomfortable and anxious upon stepping inside. All I want to do is leave as quickly as possible. Maybe I'm becoming mildly agoraphobic. The other thing, I saw a couple of attractive young ladies while I was there, and felt torment and despair. What the fuck is wrong with me? God dammit, I hate being me. I hate being alive.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (0mRoj)

537Is there another conservative site with good intelligent comment sections? I'm down to just this one at the moment.

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (XsVWn)

There must be some out there*, but I figure why waste time looking when you've found the HQ?

*Before one of my computer drive crashes, I had an unbelievable bookmarks list of pretty decent sites, but none of them seem that appealing when I go back to check them, so I just have a basic speed dial setup now.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (gwPgz)

538
i mentioned over on The_Donald last night that Twitter threads were a lot like the Usenet threads of old, except for the 140 character poasting limit.

lots of idiots to bat around and annoy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (HbNSs)

539
535
Is there another conservative site with good intelligent comment sections? I'm down to just this one at the moment.
Posted by: phineas gage at Augusof
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Ricochet is good. There is a modest fee to be a full member but there is a nice cadre of regulars there.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (QGoUX)

540
I was reminded of this quote by Robert E. Lee, He was once asked his opinion of a fellow officer who was widely known as one of Lee's greatest detractors. The General responded that he thought the man a very fine officer. "But, General," his questioner asked, quite perplexed, "I guess you don't know what's he been saying about you." "Oh, yes, I do," replied Lee. "But I was asked my opinion of him, not his opinion of me."

-
Quite apart from any military glory, Lee was a great man (although I doubt he would agree). It sickens me to see these little weasels denigrate him.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 04:54 PM (DAcPP)
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Thanks! Unfortunately they only recognize the aggregate 2 day scores so there is no recognition for a single match. The international committee doesn't even track the single match scores as far as I know, so there isn't any big award.

I think it's all timing. If you were poor for a good time and then became upper middle class through hard work or good fortune , chances are the money makes a difference in your happiness. If you were born into riches , having no money doesn't make a difference either way.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 04:58 PM (LuKE7)

547
Anonosaurus, Lee understood that just because someone else chooses to tumble down the rathole of hate, you don't have to follow them down there.

It's a lesson I know I have to learn, but geez it's hard.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2017 04:59 PM (eMKNe)

548Is there another conservative site with good intelligent comment sections? I'm down to just this one at the moment.

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 04:49 PM (XsVWn)

Nope.

MAYBE Insty......... but, nope.

In fact, there really isn't a comment section in the whole internet that's as smart as the HQ.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 20, 2017 04:59 PM (iFZVz)

549
536 Ugh. Speaking of warped...I go to the grocery store and immediately feel uncomfortable and anxious upon stepping inside. All I want to do is leave as quickly as possible. Maybe I'm becoming mildly agoraphobic. The other thing, I saw a couple of attractive young ladies while I was there, and felt torment and despair. What the fuck is wrong with me? God dammit, I hate being me. I hate being alive.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (0mRoj)

I know what you mean, about the torment and despair part at least.

Fake it. Grin like you didn't give a shit about anything, walk up to them and say 'hey' to them both. Start with that, no expectations, just say 'hey'.

552
Richard Fernandez at Pajamas Media is very good. His commenters are very good but the overall quality of his commenters is declining. The good commenters really provide thoughtful insightful comments. No sex or snark.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 20, 2017 05:00 PM (0wem/)

553
I enjoyed the book 'Confederacy of Dunces' immensely. Made me laugh out loud numerous times. It was published 11 years after the author committed suicide, and it won the Pulitzer for fiction in 1981. The author's mother sent her dead son's typewritten manuscript to writer Walker Percy and asked him to read it and help get it published; Percy was not able to put down the manuscript.Sadly, I have given copies of the book (I've loaned mine a few times) to others I thought might enjoy it, and it was rejected most of the time with comments about how loathsome it was.After these many years, I look around to see that none of the persons who rejected that novel are now within my small circle of close and trusted friends....As Walker Percy wrote in the book's forward, the novel is a commedia, and a Falstaffian commedia at that.Incredibly detailed and nuanced characters; my personal favorite was Jones, the gloriously unenthusiastic janitor at the Night O' Joy bar/strip joint. Best lines from a bealeagured black character since Mammy in the movie version of 'Gone With the Wind.'

Posted by: JustGotHere at August 20, 2017 05:00 PM (NG5TO)

554
Should have read---having money (not having no money. That would suck for a formerly rich person )

ISIS has claimed responsibility for a terror attack on Wednesday in Barcelona that involved a jihadist plowing his van into crowds of tourists, killing at least 13 and injuring over 100.

Throughout Spain and the rest of the West, mobs took to the streets denouncing Islamic supremacy, shaming Spain for its 700-year rule at the hands of Muslims, and demanding the removal of Spain's countless public monuments devoted to honoring Islamic history.

Just kidding. The only acceptable protest in the West these days involves open self-flagellating displays of cultural and demographic suicide.

Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2017 05:01 PM (GsAUU)

556
Insomniac, I can understand that about seeing a woman you're REALLY attracted to, and realizing you have no chance with her.

558
541 ... Weasel, Screw the awards. You know what the team accomplished and so do they. What an extraordinary achievement. Congrats!

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 05:03 PM (V+03K)

559
I have $42 in loose change and a somewhat decently stocked liquor cabinet. First one to get down here and shoot me gets it all. Trash bags are in the pantry, cleaning supplies are under the kitchen sink.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 05:03 PM (0mRoj)

560
" For me, the depression seems to be part of my personality.
I'm wondering if it has to do with intelligence. Heightened
awareness is part of a gifted IQ, which means perspicacity of the
entire system, which includes a lot of bad.

oooo baby baby it's a wide world.

Posted by: booknlass

interesting ... important, I think, to separate real (clinical?) depression from awareness and staying in reality.

I could have stayed in several places (over the years, life choices) to just have a good time, all was well. Choosing to "fight the good fight", so to speak, may mean less time just enjoying the opera, or drinking with friends at every festival every weekend, or whatever simple pleasure Americans deserve to simply enjoy, without worries that the NWO will soon crash their 401K, or imported third worlders will soon crash that retirement plan.

But the few that choose the good fight, face the evils head on and indeed there is reason for some sorrow at what is sold off by the evil ones ... but that makes the "good fight" fully worthy. Maybe it is the intelligent that see this battle and engage more fully, but the "average deplorable" seems capable of winning on the cultural war level and engaging as in a contest.

Fighting with honor (General Lee comparisons?) is important, and trust in some higher power to in the end be the judge ... seems like a good dynamic.

Or ... Be all you can be ... even if that is not in the Army. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2017 05:04 PM (veVl1)

561Remember that twilight zone episode where the snobby family was waiting for the rich uncle to kick off, but the old dude made them wear masks, and when they took them off their faces were disfigured and reflected their inner self?

...

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division

Yes I do. And I think we need to accept the uncle's attitude. Everything he said to them was dripping with irony, because he knew and accepted the fact that they were hopeless.

For a minute there, I thought you might be talking about the dreaded backlash finally occurring, so glad to know all is well and proceeding according to plan!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 05:04 PM (gwPgz)

563Just kidding. The only acceptable protest in the West these days involves open self-flagellating displays of cultural and demographic suicide.

Posted by: logprof

You ... you ... *types* *deletes*

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 05:06 PM (/qEW2)

564Ugh. Speaking of warped...I go to the grocery store and immediately feel
uncomfortable and anxious upon stepping inside. All I want to do is
leave as quickly as possible. Maybe I'm becoming mildly agoraphobic. The
other thing, I saw a couple of attractive young ladies while I was
there, and felt torment and despair. What the fuck is wrong with me? God
dammit, I hate being me. I hate being alive.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM

It can be hard, when you don't understand and acknowledge the hidden forces at work in our lives and fortunes.

Fortunately, help is at hand.

Our friends at the Your Tango site have helpfully published an article entitled "Guys, Here's Why You Can't Get A Girlfriend, Based On Your Zodiac Sign"

Now I admit, I was, at first, puzzled, wondering what small rigid-inflatable boats apparently adorned with at least one sign had to do with lacking a girlfriend. However, it appears the context is other than that.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybqp5q3f

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2017 05:07 PM (DMUuz)

565558 541 ... Weasel, Screw the awards. You know what the team accomplished and so do they. What an extraordinary achievement. Congrats!
Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 05:03 PM (V+03K)
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Thanks JTB. We're all pretty excited about it.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 05:07 PM (Sfs6o)

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Thanks, I'll try Ricochet. HQ is my mainstay, but I like to browse around a bit--or at least I did, until Trump caused a complete meltdown of many sites.

Way back when I was at Polipundit (which used to be really good, btw) and later HotAir (you all know that story...).

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 05:07 PM (XsVWn)

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Also along the Pat lines are the black men (40 to 50) and the white women (50 to 65). White tennis shoes, check. Socks just under knees, yep. Jorts or other shorts just above knees, got it. Long what tee-shirt covering most of butt. ok.

Dear one if you hate being alive are having agoraphobia, you need to see somebody as soon as you can for meds and therapy, and if this sounds judgmental you know that I've been there. As for what's wrong with you-You have had a lot of very difficult things happen over a long period of time and so that is all affecting your view of yourself. Also, depression crushes one's self esteem. You've certainly been told any number of times that you are smart, caring and funny-and I imagine there are at least four other people who share your last name who feel that you are worthwhile as well as people IRL. You have mentioned friends before. Reach out to me. If you don't have my phone number, I will send it to you again

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 05:08 PM (iVOAv)

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568-meant "other" people IRL aside from the young people who share your last name.

I loved it too--it had a Dickens/OHenry/Cervantes feel to it in terms of the vivid characters.

Knowles descent into mental illness and eventual suicide is very sad. His overbearing mother perhaps played a part in that.

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 05:10 PM (XsVWn)

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Along that line, if you have never read 'Handling Sin' by Michael Malone, get yourself a copy.

Posted by: phineas gage at August 20, 2017 05:11 PM (XsVWn)

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Ugh. Speaking of warped...I go to the grocery store and immediately feel uncomfortable and anxious upon stepping inside. All I want to do is leave as quickly as possible. Maybe I'm becoming mildly agoraphobic. The other thing, I saw a couple of attractive young ladies while I was there, and felt torment and despair. What the fuck is wrong with me? God dammit, I hate being me. I hate being alive.

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A former secretary of mine got divorced when she discovered that her husband was banging anything he could get his hands on. She described to me her fee!ings of humiliation when out in public. She felt everyone knew she was the one being cheated on. Of course, it wasn't true that everyone knew or that everyone cared. Most people are just trying to get by. It is cold comfort but true that imagining that others are concerning themselves with the cut of your jib is a form of self involvement. There is a certain freedom in relying upon the apathy of strangers.

Been dabbling in "The Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius.
He made a fantastic point about how "now" is really the only point in your life when you can make a difference. The past is over and fixed in time for good or ill, the future is a veiled shadow impossible to see clearly (and may not exist for you personally), but NOW is the time you can actually chose to act with honor and do so, or you can be a progressive!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 05:11 PM (gwPgz)

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Now I admit, I was, at first, puzzled, wondering what small rigid-inflatable boats apparently adorned with at least one sign had to do with lacking a girlfriend. However, it appears the context is other than that.

Read the one for my birth sign. It doesn't really apply. But then again, I'm...a freak of nature I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 05:12 PM (0mRoj)

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Chastity already wrote a memoir and confesses that her mom's lesbian friend "Joan" (pseudonym used in the book to protect the guilty) "seduced" her when she was 11. When Cher found out about it, her reported response was that it was "a good life experience" for her daughter. Cher did nothing after that to remove this grown pervert from her child's life but let the abuse continue.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 03:57 PM (FTXAT)

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Speechless. Now I have pity for Chastity.

Cher, liked her voice & music & acting in the past. Had begun to like her more since seeing the Sonny & Cher Show...they've begun running it on TV. They bring Chastity on at end...so sweet.

But now. Kaboom. Ashes.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 20, 2017 05:15 PM (rhR3K)

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'"now" is really the only point in your life when you can make a difference.'

'Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?' --Tennesse Williams

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One of the few times Lee commented publicly on his military leadership concerned perhaps his greatest victory, Chancellorsville. The Confederates won a great victory despite being massively outnumbered by breaking a cardinal rule by splitting their forces in the face of a superior enemy. Stonewall Jackson led a flanking march and a flank attack on Hooker's right that created panic in the Army of the Potomac and in Hooker's mind. Jackson was mortally wounded by friendly fire immediately after the attack.

After the war, an article was written giving credit for the radical plan and victory to Jackson implying that he had acted without Lee's knowledge or permission. Lee wrote a rebuttal not to claim credit but to dispel the inference that Jackson was so poor a soldier as to act without or contrary to orders.

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"NOW is the time you can actually chose to act with honor and do so, or you can be a progressive!

Posted by: Hrothgar

yeah ... go with the (PC) flow is really not self reliance, free will ... good parents raise their kids on principle and build the child's independent will to make good choices, and to adjust after consequences.

PC is "join our tribe and we will crush the 'other' that fights us"

But much of life is indeed tribal .. not all bad, but be able/willing to join the freedom/liberty "causcus". Recognize liberty versus dogma. Western Civ' is a complicated thing, cuz being purely tribal is easy.

The left wants to paint the Trump thing as purely tribal racism, when it is really liberty seekers tired of the tribal left, tired of the "DC Cartel".

But in the end, we choose our tribes ... but "we morons" choose the tribe that believes in liberty ... the founders ... free choice.

Complicated business. The "Deceiver" has an imitation for every good thing. And a MSM to promote it, before the truth gets its pants on.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2017 05:37 PM (veVl1)

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Robert E. Lee, He was once asked his opinion of a fellow officer who was widely known as one of Lee's greatest detractors. The General responded that he thought the man a very fine officer.

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Could that have been James Longstreet? Both halves of the description seem to fit.

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549 536 Ugh. Speaking of warped...I go to the grocery store and immediately feel uncomfortable and anxious upon stepping inside. All I want to do is leave as quickly as possible. Maybe I'm becoming mildly agoraphobic. The other thing, I saw a couple of attractive young ladies while I was there, and felt torment and despair. What the fuck is wrong with me? God dammit, I hate being me. I hate being alive.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 04:56 PM (0mRoj)

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What is wrong with you? You sound depressed...maybe clinically. You need some medicine. The longer you go without, the worse it is gonna get. You are spiraling.

Be a best friend to yourself & get some medicine. It doesn't mean you will need to be on it forever, but at least give your brain a chance to recover from whatever awful things have happened to you.

This is your brain's cry for help. It can't disconnect from your body and take itself to the doctors. If I knew you, I'd come over & open a can of whoop ass on you. Luckily, you are safe. :-) I see people with knowledge reaching out to you.

Would you let a friend or relative be in the kind of pain you are in & do nothing to help? Then do the same for yourself.

I'm frightened for you... Please get help! Do you have friends you can contact? Remember nothing is ever that bad... Prayers ..

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2017 06:06 PM (O2RFr)

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Robert E. Lee, He was once asked his opinion of a
fellow officer who was widely known as one of Lee's greatest
detractors. The General responded that he thought the man a very fine
officer. "But, General," his questioner asked, quite perplexed, "I guess
you don't know what's he been saying about you." "Oh, yes, I do,"
replied Lee. "But I was asked my opinion of him, not his opinion of me."

Used it this morning in a sermon on praying for and loving our enemies

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 04:52 PM (iVOAv)

Robert E Lee was a fine gentleman.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 06:32 PM (FTXAT)

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In Laramie, WY at motel. All normal, no obvious crowds. We are still 100 miles south of zone of totality. So far so good.

Posted by: Lurker With Eyes Open at August 20, 2017 06:32 PM (ACzyj)

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I have $42 in loose change and a somewhat decently
stocked liquor cabinet. First one to get down here and shoot me gets it
all. Trash bags are in the pantry, cleaning supplies are under the
kitchen sink.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 05:03 PM (0mRoj)

{{{{{Insomniac}}}}} Late getting back from the store but please know we like you a lot here and would miss you if you were disposed of in trash bags (or any other way).

If you want a drinking buddy, I can have a tipple here and you can have one there... together.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 06:40 PM (FTXAT)

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neoneocon is my main read. Its AoS but calmer, a tad more thoughtful in the comments threads, and for us old farts. I come here for the thoughtful posts and the rambling, often hilarious comments. If anyone is offended, crawl into your safe place and suck your thumb.

Posted by: colfax mingo at August 20, 2017 07:13 PM (gkURX)

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BTW, I read everything before I commented which makes me an old fart.