>ここしばらく登場していないのが不気味です。流子に飽きたらもういいんだろうか。>ヌーディストビーチとぶつかったらどうなるのかが、気になります。>The irregularity on the plot, Harume Nui, has been mysteriously missing for a while. It's eerie. Did she really get tired of Ryuuko? What would happen if she clashed with Nudist Beach?

I'm coming for you Ryuuko-chan~, and this time your guardian angel Satsuki won't be able to protect you.

>>101103247
Nonon would have much more of an impact on Satsuki, she has known Nonon since she was a baby. She's probably the closest thing to family she has that she associates with on a regular basis, she just isn't very good at showing her affection.

>>101103356
I'd like to find out how they met and who Nonon's parents are, something like their friendship is obviously set up by their parents. In their kindergarten flashback Nonon had already mentioned that she had known Satsuki forever.

>Nui said she she wants to push Satsuki to her limit>Ragyo was in silent agreement>Best way to do so would be to push Satsuki into berserker territory>Satsuki's too cool and collected to ever snap over personal issues like Ryuuko did>The closest thing would be to attack her ambition/order, which means the Devas>Nonon is the closest Deva to Satsuki

>Nui is going to sabotage Junketsu, kill Nonon, and watch the fireworks

>>101103356
I liked a lot the scene between Satsuki and Nonon in the last episode. We needed more personal interaction between the two. I say this in a non-shipping way
Doge also needs more personal scenes

>>101104830
Ryuuko's has gotten the shit kicked out of her or fought to close wins or draws all series long, she's got to kick someones shit in eventually and it won't be the final boss or Satsuki(Ryuuko will win their final fight but it'll go back and forth). That basically leaves Nui.

A fight with Nui won't be satisfying unless it's Mako who fights her. Seriously, Nui fights by using still frames, and she moves in a very disjointed manner. Ryuuko going full budget mode and screaming wouldn't make for a fun battle.

>>101106021>>101105870>Sensei reveals secrets to Ryuuko>Just as he's about to reveal the biggest secret of all, Nui shows up >She's there to finish off Nudist Beach since Satsuki was too boring to finish the job herself>Fighting starts, Sensei gets it right in the nipple beams>Touching moment between him and Tsumugu before he dies>Tsumugu unleashes all of his new training on Nui and manages to wound her, making her retreat in a rage

>>101107514
on both occasions when ryuuko fought nui so far, she was weakened by an emotion: rage in the first fight, and fear in the second
this episode has gone to large lengths to stress that she's gotten over those now, and on top of that has become stronger, and can fight satsuki to a draw, whom nui was afraid of

Except for the part where she wasn't. Every time they've had a stand-off, she's taunted and mocked Satsuki first. It's part of her game.

If Nui just outright attacks her, that's no fun. The point is to make her so upset or angry that she just lashes out and attacks Nui. That's how Nui wins. Nui doesn't fear Satsuki at all, she'd curbstomp Ryuuko and she'd stomp Satsuki just the same. She wants to have fun, and the most fun is in making Satsuki fall off her high horse all on her own.

>>101108312>I know you don't actually think this
all we've seen so far is her taking her opponents by surprise or exploiting their unstable emotional state
sure, she can block ryuuko's attacks with a single hand, but so can satsuki, and gamagoori doesn't even need to

>>101108506
This. I want a slice of life episode where everyone sits down in the Makanshoku family household and has a tea party and talks about their various deep psychological issues. And I want them all to be in pajamas. Or nude, either is cool

>>101108842
His size is a direct indicator of his presence. He's a fucking hard person to ignore, both physically and mentally. At least, that's what I take from it. Also it just represents how he seems to tower over others.

>>101108598
Wasn't one of the more major hypocritical things people are blaming Satsuki for actually said by Monkey?

Also people are blaming Satsuki for destroying Osaka but that was Takarada's doing, he pushed the fight out there and destroyed it himself because he said he could just rebuild it later. That wasn't his home or possessions, though.

Nui's entire shtick is being extremely agile and impossible to catch. If Satsuki went berserk, she'd lose the advantage of thinking and would be easy pickings. Not to mention, Satsuki would probably have to shitslap her own Devas when they tried to intervene and save her.

Nonon wasn't fighting anyone, she was sent to destroy the HQ before the deal was even talked about. You can hate her for destroying the HQ, but she never once said she wasn't going to do it, all Ryuuko was talking about were the battles going on on the battleground.

>>101109479
Satsuki is not the nicest person, she has her moments sometimes but it's not like she's secretly a big old pussy cat. That wasn't cheap, it was just ruthless, Satsuki can be ruthless and she's not always going to play entirely nice.

If you're expecting her to turn out like Ryuuko eventually that's never going to happen, but she might get a little softer than she is right now.

It was there and she took it to use it to her advantage. What's she going to do, just let the pieces blow away in the wind? Ryuuko can come and take it back if she wanted it back and she did just that.

I guess that isn't something Ryuuko would have done, but Ryuuko isn't like Satsuki, that's the whole point, they're rivals with different ways of thinking and ideals.

>>101109642
She's a dictator that needs to be taken down, even if she's going up against her mother we have a lot of evidence that she won't be much of an improvement. She's on record as quoting The fucking Party for crying out loud!

15 felt like it went out of it's way to say "Oh you're expecting the traditional, rival is showen to not be that bad "twist" that's all the rage? Nope she's a bitch."

Ruthless is what she does always. No mercy. You get what you earn. Ruthless is ruining all of Osaka, because hey, they resisted, they entered combat, not her problem.

But going back against her CORE principle, that is you get what you earn, that's being a hypocrite
You can be ruthless and maintain integrity
Instead she just played reapolitik, and that makes her a regular shitty totalitarian, and not a leader you'd follow into hell
This my issue

I think that Kill La Kill's main flaw is that I don't feel for any of the characters. It's too over the top for me to even sympathize for anyone when there are parts that are clearly trying to make us do so.

>>101110040>She could have collected everything and placed it near her

Why would she do that for? She took it, probably knowing Ryuuko would attempt to take it back eventually but figured she would be able to hold on to the pieces long enough where it could aid her in her conquest and took one final piece for herself she would not be able to transform until she was almost finished what she was doing anyways.

Satsuki's philosophy is that if you can manage to take something and use it to your advantage you should do it even if it may not be the nicest thing to do in every case. that's why she though Ryuuko should keep Bakuzan even if she might have gotten it through cheap means and not exactly a feat of skill(she just sprayed in her blood in her face). Ryuuko giving Bakuzan back signifies that Ryuuko does not share Satsuki's philosophy.

>>101110429
Ryuuko and Senketsu gambled and won. It was the one moment where things did not go according to plan with Ryuuko. It was a brilliant use of an old sand-in-the-eyes tactic that Satsuki didn't anticipate. I think it also makes Satsuki more likable insofar as she's tough and smart, but not 100% perfect.

Also, even Satsuki commended Ryuuko's valor while also saying she wouldn't fall for the same trick twice. Nonon blowing up the NB HQ allowed her to save some of her pride by finishing her mission despite that one part not going exactly as planned.

Hopefully just one more, the obligatory Deva death.
Then Satsuki destroys her.

And then, after Rangyo is brought down, Ryuuko tracks her down.
She puts on her happy face again, but Ryuuko starts acting cold and Satsuki like, which reminds her of how she was wrecked badly, and makes her angry again
And then Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood plays as Ryuuko finishes her off in a samurai duel style finish

I'm a bit frustrated about the lack of news on Satsuki from Trigger.
They already said that the second half will involve Ryuuko fighting back, and her growing up.
They also said the second ED will involve Mako.
Now they heavily hint Nui will show up again soon.

However, the one character who has hardly been developed, despite being the other MC (as said by Trigger's own staff), is Satsuki.
She remains pretty much the same character from day one.
Sure, we've learned a few bits about her, and we've seen she isn't as stone cold as it would have seemed seemed at the very beginning, but she still hasn't developed, even a bit.

I'm also a bit disappointed at the lack of meaningful interaction amongst the Devas, and between the Devas and Satsuki. For some reason I had hoped they'd show some casual interaction between them, in order to expand a bit more on them.

Except to me, it does, as it's what made her what I assume was Trigger's take on a fair dictator
I guess I just had different expectations of her than what they're going for
She's still a good character
I just ain't calling her Lady Satsuki anymore

>>101111334>tfw when Nui could have just been an obsessed Ryuuko fangirl who heard of her exploits and was interested>tfw she could have spent all her time raiding Ryuuko's panties and jumping out of frame when caught>tfw her and Mako could have cracked pervy schemes at Ryuuko's expense

>>101111317
Considering how popular that faggot is I think many people would drop the show in that case. I am not sure if this would be a good idea to kill him off when he is just about to get even closer to the protag side. I wouldn't wonder if this actually happens though.
Fuck Nui, I hope Mako gets her upgraded uniform or something and saves him.

>>101111250>it's what made her what I assume was Trigger's take on a fair dictator
Whilst she's noble in many ways, her system isn't necessarily fair.
Things like the No-Late day, or allowing the strong to abuse the weak is in no way fair in any civilised society.

If you want a fair absolute ruler then see Reinhard von Lohengramm (although, he was a monarch and not a dictator - however, the comparison works considering how horrible the monarchs used to be before he rose to power).

Perhaps, she has good reasons to have built up this type of society. However, considering Trigger are the ones doing this anime, I doubt it, as they seem to be fairly anti-system.

>>101111841
No she was her current age, she was going to see her father as after long last he had finally contacted her, but she wasn't able to say much to him because he was near death and had just been attacked.

>>101111707>Considering how popular that faggot is I think many people would drop the show in that case.
They killed Kamina and Kittan in TTGL. I don't think they care if a character is too popular. They aren't Sunrise.

However, so far in the story, no one has died (other than maybe that spy from EP1 and Isshin who died before the story started). According to Trigger, the second half of the anime will be a roller-coaster compared to the first half, so perhaps we'll see some deaths. However, for some reason, I don't think they'll be killing anyone.

>>101111927>Episode 4 is only pseudo canon.
EP4 is still part of the anime, so no matter who worked on it, it's still full canon.

>And any other time people were being punished for violating rules.
The rules still don't prevent the strong to prey upon the weak.
Remember the human experiments done by the biology club (and this didn't happen in EP4).

>>101111955
Satsuki and Ryuuko will definitely team up but I doubt Nui will turn "good". Unless she is actually a sentient uniform who got out of control. In that case she would probably be reverted to her regular uniform state and then worn by someone in order to kill the person who created her...Ragyou

>>101112103>abuse the rule breakers*
But that's incorrect. I already mentioned the No-Late day and the Biology Club performing human experiments.

>>101112205>The fact that Mako conveniently forgets ever seeing Senketsu move around and stuff like that...seems unlikely.
Mako also forgot Satsuki had said her name before. So, that's either a fault on Trigger's side, or Mako is just forgetful.

>No late day wasn't a big deal, the entire area is Kiryuuin private property, they can do what they like on it.
So, no fatalities means there was no abuse for you? Or is the lack of fatalities a justification for something like No-Late day?
Also, them being in Kiryuuin's land doesn't justify the abuse. If anything, you're admitting there was abuse, but then trying to justify it by saying it happened on land owned by Satsuki.

She differs to the Deva's better judgment most of the time
She's a guns and butter general for sure
So chances are she's okay with it
Besides she respects Ryuuko and even Mako anyway. They're not pigs to her

>>101112376>But that's incorrect. I already mentioned the No-Late day and the Biology Club performing human experiments.

>No-Late day

Tardiness is not acceptable anon. Having a day where everyone has to struggle to reach school reminds them of the importance of punctuality

>>101112462
What if they can't easily reallocate? Based on EP14, by Sanageyama's words, it'd seem Japan is in a rather bad economic shape.
So, it's either Honnouji or nothing.

Also, again, what's the point of something as No-Late day? There's simply no way to justify something like that.

>>101112487>Having a day where everyone has to struggle to reach school reminds them of the importance of punctuality
How about simply expelling or giving some due punishment to those who are late?
There's no need for all the brutality.

>Who's to say they weren't captured rule breakers?
Like Mako?

Oh, let's also not forget how Mako was used as bait in EP1, and the punishment by the Tennis Club on EP2.

Well, Mako consorts with a known rule breaker Ryuuko, so natural the various clubs are against her
Also keep in mind, all those happened before Satsuki's purge using the Fight Club and then the battle royale

KILL la KILL production report
The story is heating up! Ryuko and Nudist Beach is finally on a full on battle with Satsuki and Honnouji Academy! It has been a while since they last dueled. I believe episode 3 was the last time Ryuko and Satsuki had a conflict. According to the plot meeting, many stage performers call the cliff hanger scene "The end of the first act." If KILL la KILL were to be a play, episode 15 would apply to the end of the first act. I have also made a comment to Mr. Nakashima that excluding Mako and Nonon, all of the characters that support Ryuko and Satsuki are men! Mr. Nakashima says that he has intentionally positioned the male characters to assist the female lead. He says that situation is very similar to the first work he and Mr. Imaishi worked as a pair, Re: Cutey Honey. Male characters supporting a struggling female lead, Mr. Nakashima sure is a gentleman!
Putting that aside, I hope you all enjoy the second act of KILL la KILL!

>>101113071>Well, Mako consorts with a known rule breaker Ryuuko, so natural the various clubs are against her
Ryuuko wasn't a rule breaker at that point, I think.
Satsuki had already given a free pass to fight everyone, and then get her answers if she managed to beat everyone.
Mako shouldn't be involved, because Ryuuko is involved.

>Also keep in mind, all those happened before Satsuki's purge using the Fight Club and then the battle royale
The purge was used to take out weak elements, not necessarily the unfair ones.

>>101113122>Surprise evaluations come at almost every walk of life.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure No-Late day had a specific day.
I also don't see ow you can compare unneeded brutality to a test used to see if you've been studying without being told to do it.

>Remember that's Kiryuuin private property as well, they are free to decide who gets to stay there and how.
Then they can just kick people out if they don't want them there.
Ownership of a place doesn't mean you get to put people's well-being at stake.

I don't really see why you guys keep trying to justify Satsuki on this.
She does have some amazingly qualities as both a leader and as a person, but the abuse that happens under her system is a critical flaw, and there's hardly any justification for it (as of yet).

>>101113485>unneeded brutality
Pfft, shit wasn't that hard at all. I could have done that. The physics of that world isn't the same as here. As long as you're not a coward and have the willpower you would have finished. Notice that the school wasn't deserted afterwards?

This week's episode was action heavy, wasn't it? Not to mention that the episode went on and showed off all of the Elite Four's new regalia. The episode packed more content than usual and I must say it was very, very difficult to limit myself with the keyframes this week. I did my best to make it under 10 frames though! Starting off is Nonon! It appears Bloomers are respected oversea as well, but what about Jitome (scorning look) expression?>jitome
so that's how it's called baka, baka

>>101113931
I think if she was straight Chaotic Evil she would have killed Ryuuko in their fights. Instead she's just doing what she's been doing for entertainment and on whims without regard for being good or bad.

>>101114013
All good points. I had the no late day come first to mind where she was adamant about trying to get to school on time. But with all that taken into consideration, yeah. I'd say Neutral Good.

So here's an interesting hypothesis I thought of during Ragyo's speech about clothing being sin. What if Nui, who is the Grand Couturier for Revocs, which means she is essentially in charge of clothing production, is actually the biblical Eve, cursed to continue on in existence for all eternity.

Out of the new regalia, my personal favorite is Sanageyama's Blade regalia! The visual design here really got me. I'm a sucker for Mr. Koyama's design, but I feel like he really out did himself this time. That radiating green light is really awesome. Putting that aside, I initially thought that the new regalia would be introduced individually. I was pretty surprised when I found out that was not the case, and it looks like it's picking up even more momentum in the upcoming episodes.

>>101113927
Ryuuko doesn't work as SCSA.
Even if Ryuuko started her whole thing with revenge, she was always a really nice girl and slightly heroic. Whereas Austin was just the an independent son of a bitch, who hardly had any friends, gave two shits about little to nothing and just did as he pleased.

In that regard, Cena works perfectly for Ryuuko, since he's the type of guy who always has the odds against him and always overcomes them. He's a good guy, but never trying to be especially heroic. And despite being a good guy, is generally doing things that are supposed to be badass.
He always ultimately wins in the end, which should also apply to Ryuuko.
The only difference is that Ryuuko - being a cartoon - can put amazing performances, whereas Cena is one of the worst performers in the WWE (but most people don't care about ring performance, so who cares, right?).

>>101114115>>101114112
This one is from last week. He completely removed it from the English translation. It says "Ryuuko is so cute when she is acting like a girl! The fact that she is trying to cover herself with the blanket makes it more arousing."

>>101114484
She acts tough because she is lonely and doesn't want to get hurt. People were probably afraid of her and she didn't get any friends until Mako. Since Mako's relationship with Ryuuko seems to be relevant enough for an ED I hope we get a flashback of how Ryuuko's childhood was.

>Hey, everyone! Welcome to the web preview!>What is Life Fiber?>What was Matoi Isshin's true objective?>Is there any reason to Nudist Beach's nudity?>And why is Mikisugi Aikurou naked?>Sorry, but I definitely can't tell!>Meanwhile, Satsuki and Ragyou head to the hot-springs together.>Just a normal mother-daughter bath, Kiryuuin Satsuki?!>Next time on Kill la Kill: "As a woman, I can't stand it"

>>101114971>I really wanted to share more keyframes from this episode (like Nonon's transformation) but I had to limit myself at some point, or I'll probably end up just posting the whole cut sequence. I've decided to go plain and simple with Ryuko and Satsuki's battle scene. People often overlook how lewd these scenes are due to the fast motion. Maybe the animators are trying to camouflage the lewdness with fast actions. (grins)

>>101114865
Because she made me scream 'WHY' for an entire episode. She's a really rancid person in terms of personality and that was the intention and despite how infuriating she can be, I can appreciate her for that.

And yeah, Junketsu does have that kind of look to him.
Sort of a combination between a skull and an Oni mask.

I really can't figure out what exactly it's supposed to look like, part of that is that Satsuki matches Junketsu ulike the contrast of Ryuuko and Senketsu.
That and Senketsu's just a big ol jaw with a bow tie for eyes.

>>101116204>>101116099>Satsuki and Junketsu don the school and turn into a giant mech>Nonon flying next to its head>Inu and Uzu chilling out on its shoulders>Gamagoori casually walking alongside it, a good 20 feet taller

>>101116275
Oh man.
Maybe I should stop watching this series and wait until someone tells me it has a actual happy end. My heart can't take any tragedy here. I usually enjoy such things, but not here. I like the characters too much I guess.

>>101116711
So those crazy anons were right who thought the whole KlK world is actually just a big delusional dream world of one of the characters?>>101116864
No but it says that Ryuuko is actually the only honest or direct person in the world. This excludes everyone else no matter who.

>>101116670
A KlK 2D fighter would kick ass. Being able to switch what level/form your character's uniform/Kamui is in on the fly while fighting with different strengths/weaknesses would be a cool gimmick. Plus the option for a shitton of extra costumes for everyone.

The whole a "Ryuuko is now joining the adult world" thing from the previous interview fits with the thing they said in the OtonaAnime interview; first half was high-school anime, second half is CLOTHING SCI-FI.

>>101117867>copious amounts of nipple beams
I can see the warnings on the startup now.
"Some effects in this game may cause seizures! Please do not look directly at the nipple beams, however fabulous they may be!"

Fragile and slow; but a healthy mix of ranged and melee attacks, as well as his crab-paste move makes him a serious threat in skilled hands. His grapple-game is on par with Gama's, and, in exchange for taking more damage from melee attacks, he's the only one immune to attacks which target Life Fibers; like Ryuko's Decapitation Mode attack, Nonon's musical disruption attacks, and Nui's general fuckery.

>>101118444
The lawful part should go without saying. His willful and gleeful torture of the no-star student body on No-chikoku day is what tipped it over the edge for me. Otherwise I'd be inclined towards Lawful Neutral.

Gama is more Lawful Neutral, I believe. I don't think he has really done anything that would make him truly fall towards the evil side. Granted he has done more "evil" than "good". Although I hesitate to say "evil" since he hasn't really shown actual malice. He was even willing to pick up Mako and Ryuuko and taken them home when the moped ran out of gas, saying it was his duty to help students in need.

>>101119004>I think he would be perfectly good if he wasn't Satsuki's underling.
I believe that too. His backflash alone shows what he was like before Satsuki. During that time he'd fall more onto the good side of the spectrum.