“It’s hard [to see the Giants win again]. They’re too close to home. But you’ve got to give it to them,” defensive end Trent Cole said Tuesday via Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Trent Cole said Tuesday the Eagles were “inches” away from being a “dominant, dominant” team. He said teams are “going to be worried about playing us” in 2012.

This sounds like wishful thinking, but Cole has a point. Philly outscored their opponents by 68 points last year. (The Giants were outscored in the regular season.) Only two teams were in the top ten of scoring offense and defense: Houston and Philadelphia. Teams should be worried about Philly next year.

Those numbers speak to the fact that the Eagles underachieved last year. But the pieces are in place to be a contending team.

Of course, that will only make it more frustrating if Philadelphia watches another Super Bowl parade in other city next year.

And with all that being said, they still only beat one team with a winning record. Delusions of being better than they actually are plague this franchise from top to bottom, and until we get that sorted, we can plan on continuing to see parades in other cities.

eaglesnoles05 says:Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

Duh. Either you hate the eagles and think they suck, or you realize that they aren’t really that far off. 38 turnovers make alot of things look worse than they are, I don’t care what team you are.

The allpro team would be 8-8 (or worse) with 38 turnovers. But would the allpro team be so careless? Nope. Tightenup that ball control, birds. Wins will follow.

In retrospect, it’s not hard to see why they Eagles struggled. Many new faces, new coaches…and unrealistic expectations. The Giants are a hardnosed team….that cover the basics well…running the ball, solid D-line with the philosophy of getting to the QB with mostly the front four…a solid offensive line…plus very good players in the “skill position.” They have a true “team” approach. The Eagle philosophy of west coast offensive is a great hindrance to them going forward. And, as much I liked Jim Johnson’s style…You live and die by the blitz. Great QB’s make mincemeat out of blitzing teams. I like what the Eagle defense was jelling into at the end of the season. I don’t like Andy Reid’s offense, and until they begin to make running the ball a priority (so the O-Line can establish the line of scrimmage in an offensive way), the Eagles will not win a Super Bowl. Shady McCoy is a GREAT running back…use him. People say that the NFL is passing league. I disagree. As long as you have running backs, then balance is always the way to winning.

Yap yap yap. Do we really have to endure another offseason of hearing about how great the Eagles are? Give me a break. They were the Dream Team last year and look what happened. Why don’t we at least wait until they make the playoffs until we start ranting and raving about this unproven team. And let’s not forget, Vick is another year older. I think this team is going to be in dire need of a QB soon. To top it all off, their number 1 receiver is on his way out to free agency. But, congrats to the Eagles, for officially being offseason superstars.

I didn’t think we’d see an Eagles story until they crown themselves Super Bowl Champions this August. Maybe the Eagles should stop talking and focus a little more on playing the game. They might find those ‘inches’ that they’ve been searching for.

How about you look up the eagles stats over the andy reid era and you will notice that they are in the top ten 10 out of 13 years but they can not beat the top 2 or 3 teams in the league because of andy reid. I will say one thing…
They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007

No Trent Cole, the opportunity was blown. Next year will be a completely different team. We’ll lose certain players and who knows about the players we’ll gain? Maybe going .500 in the NFC East wont be good enough in 2012.

realitypolice says:Feb 8, 2012 12:28 PM

Teams that meet Philly in the regular season should be worried.

Any team they may meet in the playoffs (if they get there) does not need to worry quite so much.

I just wonder how much the new rules affect that. I mean, he rebuilt the team basically in 1 year when he first got here. He has a lot more talent now.

I think it’s too easy to play what-if’s about it, but they were 5-1 in the division last year. The problem with that is Castillo basically only beat the teams he knew (Spagnuolo, the division, and the BAL D system). I mean, he knew DAL’s defensive talent better than Rob did.

Also, another point that gets unmentioned is their schedule last year was rough. 4 of their first 6 were on the road.

If the Eagles can stop the turnovers they will be a great contender next year. I hope that Vick works on that this offseason so he can stop those turnovers, if that doesn’t happen then this team will not win a SB with Vick as their QB

It also helps that they came in 3rd place in the NFC East and will be playing much weaker competition this season. Iggles may have a better record but it will only be so because they will have the dregs of the NFL on their schedule

mad55555 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM
I will say one thing…
They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007
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Whatever helps you get through the day, buddy. How about “Lombardi Trophy – Giants Owned, 2 of the Last 4 Years”?

Vick is going to have his first off season since 06, and he has a much better work ethic than he had back then. The players they signed last summer will also have a proper off season. Defense started to click at the end of the season and Todd Bowles won’t misuse the corner backs like that other bozo did. I think they are due for a monster year.

It’s all on Vick. Can he stay healthy? Will he put in the work? Can he be consistent? And perhaps, most important of all, can he be clutch? If the Giants proved anything this year, it’s that regular season performance becomes irrelevant once you’re in the playoffs. If they get in as a 9-7 team, anything can happen. But do you trust Vick to pull an Eli? I don’t.

The eagles might have ownes the GIANTS, but we own FOUR SUPER BOWN TROPHIES. Crash eagles crash, on the way to defeat after defeat.

jenniferxxx says:Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM

The Eagles do great in the NFC East. Their teams are always ‘purpose built’ for that above all else. But unfortunately they shoot their bolt there every season. That’s their priority … not the post season and certainly not Superbowls.

Duh. Either you hate the eagles and think they suck, or you realize that they aren’t really that far off. 38 turnovers make alot of things look worse than they are, I don’t care what team you are.
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This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

ps. Can you post your trophy case on craigslist already? Ours is overflowing and we can put yours to good use.

yep the division was called the NFC least in early OCT. and yet it produced another SB winner. sure I”m an Eagle fan but we did go 5-1 in the division and Gmen fans know that it is always a war when we play. I have a lot of respect for the Giants, none for the girls! if you know FB and your not an Eagle fan you should think it will be a tough game if your playing against us next year, that’s a no brainer. just look at what Vegas has already for odds. first the Pats are the fav to win next year , followed by the Steelers and Eagles tied for second fav to win it all next year. follow the money if you don’t know!

ammarradhi says:
Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM
He better get used to it, the Giants are young enough team to win 3 or 4 more super bowls in the next few years.

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LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.

teejayp says:Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM

It also helps that they came in 3rd place in the NFC East and will be playing much weaker competition this season. Iggles may have a better record but it will only be so because they will have the dregs of the NFL on their schedule

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The Eagles finished in 2nd and will play a pretty tough schedule,

sdffa11 says:Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM

trent cole is one of my favorite eagles but he and the team needs to drop the “we’re so talented” attitude.

if the eagles were so talented, they would have won more than 8 games. if they were so talented, they wouldnt have started 1-4 and blown all those late game leads.

to trent and all the eagles, stop acting like you’re so damn good. prove it on the field if you want the respect of other teams.

yes, Vick’s new and improved work ethic was on full display this past season when the Eagles players only set up off-season workouts after the media started complaining about the lack of, and then after a day or so he quit showing up, then the rest of the team followed suit……..some work ethic

miked9278 says:Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM

They padded their stats with the last 4 games of the season. They beat a floundering jets team, bad miami team which lost its starting qb and lt, dallas backups, and a pathetic redskins team that had the bags packed up for the offseason. This is exactly what plagued them last year. They wanted to tell everyone how good they were instead of proving it. Shut up and train throughout the offseason and earn your respect. This is by far the most un-likeable eagles team ever.

hardoguy says:Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM

I think Vick’s durability issues will always haunt Philly. Everyone knows he’s one hit away from being out for 3-4 games at a clip.

Explosive? You bet. Too much hype? Always.

drbob117 says:Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM

If Trent Cole wants to know why the Eagles stink, all he has to do is turn around and look at the back 7. Their errors, plus those of the offense, which either scores or commits a costly turnover on nearly every possession (P Chaz Henry didn’t get much work), doomed the Eagles. Maybe next year, the Eagles will have S and LB’s that can play, and they’ll stop making crazy mistakes on offense, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m a diehard Eagles fan, but you know the old saying…fool me once, shame on you; fool me 14 times, shame on me.

“The four teams in the NFC East have won 12 coming Super Bowls following the Giants’ win on Sunday.”
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Am I the only one who cannot understand this sentence no matter how many times I read it?

Is he trying to say that the NFC East teams have claimed they will win the next 12 upcoming Super Bowls?

Ok, I’m done trying to figure it out, my brain is hurting.

rexadelphia8 says:Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM

Giants got there bc of the eagles beating Dallas , that’s the only reason

delshofner says:Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM

Teams and especially their fans have got to stop playing their “football” on paper, and in the off-season. I’m looking at you WAS, DAL and PHI.

It’s played on the field, in real games, and mostly in the Play-Offs. So stop with the talk of “we’re really better than who won”. Who won is who won. You are what the Lombardi Trophy says you are, to paraphrase a Tuna.

Love the giants hate. Keep bringing as I come down off cloud 9 from that awesome super bowl parade yesterday. Eagles fans know what that super bowl parade is all about… Oh… Wait. Keep winning your preseason superbowls ( which apparently starts immediately now ) and I’ll keep going to our parades. Hopefully Vick watched the puppy bowl so he could start his recruiting process.

ham1 says:Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM

“if Philadelphia watches another Super Bowl parade in other city next year.” ????

If ? Guaranteed they will be watching again.

BTW its good to see mad555 come out in the offseason. Wasnt there all year when the egirls kept nose diving. Couldnt be found. Now its the offseason and time to ramp up those bejabbers for somemore false bravado huh egirl?

“LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.
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Every conceivable break? Did you watch the Packers game and notice all the bad calls? Did they not draw Rodgers AND Brady? What breaks did they get when they beat the Packers by 17 points? Did they not lead the league in games missed by starters (68)? Did you notice that they had 10 players on injured reserve? Oh yeah, and they had the hardest schedule in the league.

I mean seriously is that not poetic justice? Eagles players and fans run their mouths about their supremacy before a game is played (especially after they sign Steve Smith) and in the end the Giants win Lombardi trophy #4.

Can you Eagles fans fully appreciate how damn hilarious that is?

edelmanfanclub says:Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM

Im worried hes gonna judo flip one of our guys that block him.

eaglesfanalways says:Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM

I team with the most talent isn’t always the one that wins the Super Bowl…I think any time a lesser team (like the Giants) can win a championship is a reflection on the quality of the character of the organization and the team. That being said, what can I take from the fact that the Eagles have been favored in 4 out of the 5 championship games they have played in, but only came away with one win. By the way, Vick is not good enough to lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl win – it was an idiotic move on the Eagles part to sign him. Good for selling tickets and jerseys, bad for winning a title.

Teams should be worried about the Texans, not the damn Eagles. The giants and cowboys always have, and always will own them. Google it.

drewzducks says:Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM

Hey gcsuk…agree with you about G-Men…better team won…as a Pats fan I’d much rather go 9-7 every year and win the big one than have another 16-0 or 13-3 season but crumble when it counts most…however I think the Steelers, Saints and Packers would disagree with your 2 out of 4 statement

LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.
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Granted, the comment you are responding to is very poorly phrased/slightly delusional, but those 2 ‘miracle runs’ resulted in Lombardi’s. Doesn’t matter how you cut, who or what was lucky, etc. Call it what you want, but be sure to look at the scoreboard while you run your mouth. This years ‘miracle run’ happened after they couldn’t catch a break all year. They did without a starting CB (Thomas), MLB (Goff), LT (Beatty), KR (Hixon), and possible starter at SLB (Sintim). So factoring in those guys returning from injuries and our young guys getting better, it is not inconceivable to say that the Giants COULD win another Super Bowl or two in the next few years. So could the Seahawks for that matter. The only sure thing is that it won’t be the Eagles.

I know the only thing you egirls fans can hang your collective hat on is that you have the most talented team. I don’t understand how you guys still think you’re the most talented team. Assamuah and drc were highly overrated. You have no linebackers or safeties. D-line is solid but not as dominant as the giants line. DeSean is a girl, o-line is garbage outside of peters and the only people on this squad worth talking about are McCoy Maclin and celek. Vick is the most overrated and overhyped POS in the nfl.

mad5555 says…
They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007

Every conceivable break? Did you watch the Packers game and notice all the bad calls? Did they not draw Rodgers AND Brady? What breaks did they get when they beat the Packers by 17 points? Did they not lead the league in games missed by starters (68)? Did you notice that they had 10 players on injured reserve? Oh yeah, and they had the hardest schedule in the league.

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Yup, I watched the Packers game, and i saw ONE bad call. I also saw Aaron Rodgers miss wide open WRs for TDs, I saw the Giants recover all 3 fumbles, I saw GB drop about 10 balls, and I saw the Giants complete a Hail Mary TD.

Then I watched the Giants beat the 49ers because Ted Ginn was hurt and his backup handed them 10 points in the 4th quarter and OT. Again, the Giants recovered 3 fumbles and got the benefit of a questionable call (Bradshaw fumble) that would have virtually ended the game.

Then I watched them beat the Patriots because Wes Welker dropped a pass. Also because they recovered 2 more huge fumbles. And Gronk was hurt which most likely affected the long INT pass AND the Hail Mary.

In the last 3 games, the Giants recovered EIGHT fumbles and lost ZERO.

In the last 2 super bowls, the Giants recovered FIVE fumbles and lost ZERO.

The Giants have won 7 of their last 11 playoff games on the last play/last minute of the game.

They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007
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Allow me to show you how this logic fails. It is basically: if A=B and B=C then A=C.

If Philly owns us since 07′, and we own 2 SB titles since 07′, then Phi must also own 2 SB titles since 07′. LOGIC FAIL. Class…does anyone know why? Please raise your hands!

wferg1121 says:Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM

@giantlucksucks:
Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

I rather have 2 miracle runs to WIN the superbowl than no runs at all. Every superbowl winning team needs a little luck, New England Tuck rule, FG/ dropped TD. Pittsburg, the Seattle game. The Giants convincingly beat Atlanta and Green Bay, despite bad calls that lead to scores for Green Bay. It’s not the Giants fault that Green Bay’s reciever decided not to show up or San Francisco returner decided this was the day he was going to fumble. The Giants showed up and played!

bleedgreen says:Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM

brahgothoes says: Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

And with all that being said, they still only beat one team with a winning record. Delusions of being better than they actually are plague this franchise from top to bottom, and until we get that sorted, we can plan on continuing to see parades in other cities.

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The Giants had the same schedule minus 2 teams, which the Giants lost both of those (GB and NO). The Eagles played CHI and ATL, and also lost both.

So the Eagles and Giants regular season was separated by 1 win. The Giants also only beat 1 team with a winning record this year. The Pats.

They will never achieve what they should with Vick at QB. He is fun to watch, but is not capable of getting them to championships.

dallassux says:Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM

@jajek2

This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

I don’t think there is any problem with what Cole said. Regardless if people believe he has a point or not, it is his opinion based on what he thinks his and his team’s chances would be. Everyone, at some point is asked this same question in the off season and answers it either politically correct or makes a statement like Cole did.

Every team, either based or not based on how they performed in the last season will say something to this effect. Bottom line is, it doesn’t really matter if at the end of the day, or more specifically, the end of next season, the Eagles are home once again, watching someone else play in the Super Bowl.

They will never achieve what they should with Vick at QB. He is fun to watch, but is not capable of getting them to championships.
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Vick, with a terrible work ethic, was good enough to carry a hopeless Falcons team to the NFC championship with just a fat tight end. Let’s not get carried away. He has the talent to win a SB, period. The problem is if can remain healthy.

pixelito says:Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM

The dominant teams from the regular season never win Championships anymore. The playoffs are a wild-card team tournament now. It’s almost better not to win the division and get the bye.

So let the Eagles talk about playoff appearances and regular season dominance, we’ll just keep brining home rings to NY.

You only saw ONE missed call in the Packers game? Then you, my friend, were not paying attention.

The Giants beat the 49ers because of Kyle Williams? False! Might their blanketing of the receivers had anything to do with it? Again, typical hater: isolate one or two variables, claim it was the sole reason for victory, ignore the winning team’s strong plays in the game, and then cough it up to luck.

The Patriots did not lose because of the Welker drop. Want to know why they lost? Because the offense choked. They averaged 32 PPG in the regular season…and only scored 17 in the Super Bowl. In 2007, they averaged 36 PPG, and only scored 14. You’re not going to give *any* credit to the defense? You’re just going to cough it up to luck? You also again failed to address the Giants injuries, but list Gronkowski’s as one of the reasons the Patriots lost. Hypocrite much?

As for the fumble recoveries: that’s because of situational awareness and, yes, a little luck. Did those balls defy the laws of physics and somehow magically bounce into the arms of a Giants player? Nope. The Pats could’ve recovered, and didn’t.

Speaking of winning Super Bowls on the last play, remember when the Patriots won by a field goal in all 3 of their wins? Vinatieri sealed it all 3 times. Cundiff misses a chip shot to send them to the big game this year. Were they also “lucky.”

Face it, you make your own luck. You can’t stand the Giants and the fact that they won a title. Again. It’s sad.

Seriously, dude? You’re a broken record. Then again, I’d be pissed too if my team NEVER won a Super Bowl, took a crappy OL coach and made him our DC, signed nearly every major FA on the market, and still couldn’t make the playoffs. Any team winning the Super Bowl has luck behind them. It’s why championships aren’t built on paper.

bleedgreen – The Giants beat more than 1 team with a winning record. They beat NE 2x, GB, ATL and SF…who are a combined 54-15. During the reg season, they beat mostly 8-8 teams (who would have been over .500 if the Giants lost to them). The only Patsies (n.p.i.) that they beat were Miami and St. Louis. They actually beat the Bills when the Bills were 4-1 and the media was talking about them being a potential playoff team. Looking at it a different way, out of the Giants 13 total wins, 10 came vs. teams .500 or better.

This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

Now you dopey fans are running Melo and Amare out of town. Frauds! Get a clue
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Dallassux – You must have missed school the day they taught what “pot meet kettle” means. I agree that NY fans are fickle but that wasn’t my point. My point was that Eagles’ fans use a stat to spew hate on a player but then explain that exact same stat away as no big deal. That is hypocrisy not being fickle. Nice try though.

johntonioholmes – You’re right. My A=B=C logic doesn’t work. I was just having some fun with Eagles fans. As a Giants’ fan, I fully admit that the Eagles have owned us since Plax shot himself. Indeed, I can actually thank Eagles fans now for Miracle II. Without the Eagles’ crowning achievement as a franchise, we’d still have Dodge and not Weatherford who was a beast punter for us this year.

i doubt anyone else considers cullen jenkins and mike patterson average ded tackles. theyre only average compared to studs like ngata and wilfork but the eagles have better def tackles than 4/5 of the teams in the NFL.

gobigblue310 says:Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM

Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. Were world champs… Again. Trents trophy case is still empty. I’m sure next year Big Blue will be picked to finish behind at least Dallas and Philly… Again. We kinda like it that way. WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Figure a split with the other NFC East teams– that’s 3 losses. 3 more losses in the games against the AFC central. L’s to the Saints and maybe the Falcons. Split the rest. That’s 9 or 10 or even 11 losses.

LOL what on earth makes you think I’m an Eagles fan? I hate the Eagles.

haileli says:
Feb 8, 2012 2:11 PM
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No one, and I mean NO ONE has gotten as much luck in their favor as the Giants have in their last 3 SB runs. PERIOD.

haileli says:
Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM
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Oh yeah, and I forgot about the 3 passes Eli threw in the 49er game that SHOULD have been picked – 2 because BOTH dbacks ran into each other trying to pick it off, one that would have been a pick6 if Rogers head was turned around. Nobody throws bad passes off his back foot into double coverage like Eli Manning!

You cannot explain 8 fumbles to ZERO as anything but freak luck. Its a statistical improbability. Its nearly impossible. And they happened at the most oppurtune time for the Giants, in the 49ers game, and the Pats recovery on their own 10 yard line would likely have ended it.

You don’t think the 49ers had a strong game against NY? Dude, bottom line, if Ginn plays/Williams doesnt fumble TWICE, Giants lose the game.

Who was injured for the Giants in the SB that has nearly as much of an impact as Gronk? Or Ginn?

The Giants scored 19 points on offense and 6 of them were intentional. You think that’s overly amazing?

The Pats SB, the kicks broke ties. At worst, they were going to OT. Same with the Cundiff kick.

NY has gotten every perfect bounce at every perfect time to win games they otherwise would have lost.

Who was injured for the Giants in the SB that has nearly as much of an impact as Gronk? Or Ginn?
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@giantlucksacks – Here’s where you got greedy. Half of their defense is on IR.

Seriously though…As a long time Giants’ fan, I am aware that they have caught some bounces along the way. However, for every bounce they caught, I can name you an equal amount of bad luck that went the other way.

1) Landeta whiffing on punt in wind vs. the 85′ Bears in the Div. Rd. that basically flipped the game.

2) A 15-1 SF team losing to the Rams on purpose to keep us out of the playoffs in 88′

3) Flipper Anderson in 89′

4) Vikings in 97′ (losing after up 9 with 2 mins left…onsides kick)

5) SF in 02′ – No pass interference called on last second FG att.

6) 08′ Plax shooting hole in our destined repeat. Make no mistake, we would have repeated. Eagles beat NY in the playoffs because our no. 1 WR was a KR. Eagles admitted that no-Plax changed that game. Then, WE would have hosted AZ (who lost 2 weeks prior at NE by 40 pts) and have beaten Pitt (who we already beat that season IN PITT).

Yeah…these aren’t the type of in-game lucky bounces you speak of. Nonetheless, calling the Giants’ a lucky franchise is not wholly accurate.

The Eagles will throw a lot of money at free agents again in their attempt to buy a championship but as long as they have Reid and Vick they won’t have a chance. What Eagle fans do have to look forward to is 13 more years of Andy Reid.

And, once again, giantslucksacks refuses to address anything that goes against him. You are a troll, plain and simple. You are so jealous of the Giants that your username revolves around them. I fully expect to see you whining and complaining on other Giants boards.

The Giants were lucky this year down the stretch when it came to recovering fumbles. Manning’s post season play was also pretty overated. He was top notch in the Super Bowl but was mediocre at best in the 2nd half vs. GB and SF. The scoring in the 2nd half of those games was pretty much gift wrapped due to turnovers in very good field position. There were a number of times where the Giants had very good field position (around midfield) and failed to score).

I don’t see why Giants fans are taking this so personally. I am a Packer fan and can recall the breaks they got last year. David Akers missing two easy FG in the playoffs. Rodgers having a mediocre game versus Chicago but being bailed out by the defense. Seriously how often is Sam Shields going to get 2 picks, a sack, and a forced fumble.

Going back further, the Giants Packers game in 2010 only became a blowout when Jacobs fumbled near the sideline and the ball magically stayed in bounds. NY burned their last challenge on it, lost, and then had to live with a bad call on an INT later when they were out of challenges.

Likewise the Packers were pretty mediocre against the Jets early in the year, but dropped passes and a couple controversial turnovers let them eek out a 9-0 win.

It doesn’t help that the press is extremely hot/cold about how players and teams perform. Much of that comes strictly from a lot of analysis being based on just the W/L record and a couple memorable plays in a game. In a win you’ll see a 20-40, 240 yard, 0 TD performance being credited in the press as “clutch”,”doing enough to win”, or “gritty”. Conversely you can see a 30-40, 350 yard, 3 TD game being called a choke by the QB after he loses a late fumble when he gets drilled by an unblocked man and throws an INT that is tipped by a WR and then picked.

lakedog19352 says:Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM

So what? My Cowboys lost 5 games they could have won, and won 4 games they could have lost. Now I ask you, are they inches away from being a dominant team or inches away from completely sucking?

My God, 3 days after the Super Bowl and Eagles players and fans are already crowning themselves champions of the upcoming year. Oh geez. I hope the Giants have their ring ceremony when the Dream Team comes to town.

I love this argument. “Eli only scored 19 points against the worst defense and didn’t light any one up in the playoffs”.

Here’s where Reid can learn a thing or two from Coughlin. You coach the game as the game unfolds. You don’t stick to your script if the game does not develop the way you thought it would. When TC saw that his defense was stout, he played to that strength. He played field position and didn’t take risks. If it was 3rd and 10, he didn’t immediately call a Madden play that would go for 20. If Eli saw that he could only get 5 yards, he took it, punted, trusted his defense and waited around until his opponent panicked. See Atlanta going for a million 4th downs, GB not running the ball, SF fumbling punts, Brady throwing deep hail maries to crippled tight ends.

As long as their is the Laurel and Hardy show “Laurie and Reid” we are doomed . One lies and the other one swears to it. Their linebackers especially Matthews and their safties STINK……FACT McDougle, Andrews, Grahm, Ist round flops. Future QB… Kevin Kolb….massive flop….Making two of the best corners in all football play out of their familiar roles……Jaun Castillo as Def. Coord….massive bad decesions. Letting all the good avail. def coord be signed by other teams….stubborn Reid as usual. Giants win 2 Super Bowls in FOUR YEARS…….THIS GETS DOWN TO A POOR OWNER WHO STATES AFTER ALL THAT “ANDY REID IS THE ONE TO TAKE US TO THE SUPER BOWL IN 2012″ To Trent Cole and Jeff Laurie…..Whatever your smoking send me some.

The AFC nor the road games are what’s plaguing the Eagles. It’s the home games. They lost to NYG, SF, CHI, AZ, and NE…..AT HOME!!!! That’s five of the 8 losses…and NYG, SF, CHI, and AZ they were still in the game with most of their leads in the 4th quarter…

…Most notably, the lead they had v. NYG was also in the 4th quarter, and is their lone loss in the division; which is the deciding factor why NYG made the playoffs and the Eagles are the tallest midget in the circus (best in their own division, but sucks enough to miss the playoffs).

listen to all these eagle haters, good god.. vick this vick that, i love hes one of the most disliked sports figure out there, hahaha good job vick, keep it going dude.. vicks dogpound in the house, roof roof, lol..

just a couple key pieces on defense and hello ring, believe that!!!!!!!!!!!!