On Jan 5, 1:05 pm, António Marques <antonio...@sapo.pt> wrote:>> And your approach is like the former, not the latter. Like the former, your> starting point is a model of how the language should be (those 3-letter> things, those 'L-forms are comparatives', those 'permutations yield related> meanings'...), and then you try to get from that to the actually observed> data (modern languages). It's a top-down approach.>> The fact that you start from 'simple elements' and combine them according to> some 'possibilities' doesn't make it one iota 'bottom-up'. FYI,> 'programming' is also starting from simple elements and combining them> according to some possibilities.

Cellular automata, for example John Horton Conway'sGame of Life, and neural networks are bottom upwhile their implementations and simulations on traditionalvon Neuman computers are top down. The terms 'top down'and 'bottom up' name just the prevailing directions.And don't you spread false quotes of what I said !My third law of Magdalenian from the spring of 2006states that S-words are comparative forms of D-words,comparative as in good better. For example DAI meansprotected area, consider Daidalos, the mythical first Greekarchitect, French dais 'canopy', English dais 'lectern',then Greek tektos and German Dach 'roof'. DAI is givenas tectiformes, roughly rectangular patterns, in cave art.Now the comparative form of DAI, a D-word, is the S-wordSAI meaning life, existence, namely those who live inthe protected areas, indicated by dots, and lines and fieldsof dots, in cave art. Walls of Neolithic houses in Switzerlandwere decorated with red dots that say much as: May thishouse be blessed with life, may it see many healthy children ...Trefoils in the Harappan civilization had the meaning of life,health, and offspring, while assembled trefoils, for exampleon the well known bust of the king from Mohenjo-daro, andthe red trefoils on a lingam stand, have the same meaningof life, health, and offspring, covering the Paleolithic meaningof SAI for life.

The clear, present and continuing danger posed to Westerncivilization by the worldwide Islamist terror network cannot beovercome while the American, European and other freedom-lovingpeoples are neither mobilized nor steeled for the sacrifices ahead.Islamic terrorists fly jet...

Islamic terrorists fly jet airliner into one of the World TradeCenter towers in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. Photo: AP

No serious observer minimizes the perils. The attack carried out inNovember at Fort Hood by Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born Muslim,showed the fatal consequences of not intercepting "ticking bombs."And the arrests of Najibullah Zazi, David Headley and five youngPakistani-Americans last year in separate plots against Americairrefutably established that homegrown jihadists are a threat -- justas they are in the UK, Germany and Spain.

While Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab failed to blow up Northwest Flight253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, this attempted mass murder wasonly the latest proof that an Islamist terror network, with bases inAfrica, Arabia and South Asia, cells just about everywhere else, anda noxious presence on the Internet, sees itself in a relentless stateof war with the West.

A RECENT New York Times editorial concluded: "Afghanistan, Pakistan,Yemen? Americans have a right to feel weary. But the [Abdulmutallab]plot is a warning of why it's so important to head off full chaos inYemen. The last thing the world needs is another haven for al-Qaida."

Indeed. But if Americans are "weary" at this stage of the conflict,it is partly because their leaders -- and media -- have not properlyframed the nature of the threat.

Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a "waron terror," nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of"violent extremists" -- and no European leader -- has had the courageto say that the enemy is global jihad.

The only way Westerners can connect the dots -- between, say, thedevastating attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman near thePakistani border in Afghanistan (which claimed the lives of sevenseasoned CIA anti-terror operatives), and the attempted ax-murder ofa cartoonist in the Danish city of Aarhus over the weekend -- is fortheir leaders to plainly say who the enemy is, what they want, andwhat is at stake if they succeed.

That US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's first reactionto the attack aboard Northwest Flight 253 was to think that it wasunconnected to a larger plot, testifies to how hard it will be tochange mind-sets. Even Obama's first reaction was that Abdulmutallabappeared to be an "isolated extremist."

Yet compared to most other world leaders, Obama is positivelyChurchillian. He has articulated the right goal: "To disrupt, todismantle, and defeat the extremists who threaten us...anywhere wherethey are planning attacks..."

He's got the metaphysics right: "Evil does exist in the world."Furthermore, he fully understands the amorphous nature of the enemy,declaring that the "war" is against "a far-reaching network."

The missing link is naming the enemy. Only then will he be able totalk frankly about how hard -- and necessary -- it is to findtrustworthy Muslim allies.

The murdered CIA agents were likely betrayed by Afghans they trusted.Al-Qaida in Yemen was revived partly when terrorists were freed in aprison break, possibly orchestrated by renegade elements of theYemeni secret police.

EVEN IF Western leaders did mobilize their societies, the struggleagainst the Islamist menace would remain wearying. This is an enemythat is often embedded among civilians and enforces allegiance bybeheading those it suspects of disloyalty. Citizens need to knowthis, to understand why innocent children are sometimes accidentallykilled in military operations conducted by allied forces.

Obama needs to tell Americans and Europeans willing to listen that,though the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists,pretty much all terrorists are Muslim, hence the need for profiling.

An overstretched army, supported by a weary home front, against anill-defined enemy, does not offer a viable strategy for success.Better to tell people that the enemy is radical Islam, which wants tospread its religion using the sword, and that defeat would mean anend to Western values of pluralism, minority rights and democracy.

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Pagan religions all over the world have used icons or symbols torepresent abstract and intangible objects. The fanciful gallery ofmythological deities in Biblical stories, Arabian Nights, and TheCanterbury Tales are collections of human imagination. Blowing ofstrong wind would normally be indicated through waving trees, flyingof lighter objects and rising of dust. Similarly super human power ofgods and goddesses has been suggested through four arms, heads, andother such embellishments. In this connection Hindu history has muchmore to offer to the world as a piece of art and literature.

One of the most remarkable features of Hindu history is that unlikeother faiths, it is not confined to any area and time, but historicalcharacters have imprints left over the entire universe. There areseveral descriptions related to inter-planetary movements of not onlyof gods and goddesses, but also of sages and mortal beings. The gods,goddesses and many of the sages are timeless and ever lasting. Theyappear and disappear, are clad in glittering costumes, are powerfuland resourceful to grant boons and can inflict destruction throughcurse as well. Every God possesses weapons to destroy the evil, aswell as flowers to shower blessings.

Hindus laid greater importance on the preservation of environmentalso. Animals and useful plants such as Peepal, Beil, Tulsi, andBanyan were associated with various gods and goddesses; to be loved,nurtured, and even worshiped. Sources of water, mountains and otherelements of nature are also respected as gods and goddesses. Animalswere also included in history thereby recognizing their right to co-exist with others. Even Pig and snakes, hated in other faiths find arespectable place in Hindu history, since no one is under rated. Manyanimals are associated with Gods as carriers. Some animals were giventhe status of Gods and goddesses to impress that Omnipresence of theAlmighty.

Every religion has drawn its own concept of heaven and hell that arecomparable to the prevailing of the religion originated. IslamicHeaven is cool, shady and has plenty of water sources fruit grow andnymphs are on duty to serve the believers. There Hell is alwaysburning hot with lot many apparatus of torture in motion to punishthe non believers and worshipers of idols. On the contrary BiblicalHeaven has Sun shine, and their hell is full of Ice. All thereligions have placed heaven above and Hell below. The administrationof heavenly sites is in the hands of Devas, Angles, Nymphs, Hoors andApasras who are well versed in the art of dressing up, dancing andmusic. Like wise in Hinduism pious people reside in Swarga andsinners in Narka irresective of their being believers or non-believers. The only difference is that Narka residents have chancesof relocating themselves in Swarga with good deeds done when they arereborn. Propagators of religion not believing in re-birth have nooption of relocating even if they atoned later and desired to do somegood.

Though Hindus believe in one God, but view the same God in threedifferent modes while in action and that is known as the Trinity ofSupreme God:

Brahm is the Creator God. He is traditionally depicted with fourheads, faces and arms. Each head recites one of the four Vedas. Thehands hold a water-pot used in creating life, a string of rosarybeads used to keep track of the Universe's time, the text of theVedas, and a lotus flower. He is the husband of goddess Saraswati.His mount is Hamsa (Swan). Brahm only occasionally interferes in theaffairs of the gods, and even more rarely in mortal affairs. He isgenerally painted old, probably to signify that creativity, wisdom,and experience without resources and power is like an old andhelpless person.

Vishnu is known as preserver. He is usually depicted as a four-armedhumanoid with blue skin, often sitting or resting on a lotus floweror relaxing on Sheshnag bed with Lakshami (goddess of wealth) inattendance, indicating a person possessing everything of ultimateluxury. His mount is Garuda. He is identified with his Avatars(Incarnations) to re-establish orderliness in the World.

Shiv is the destroyer. Shiv is represented as immersed in deepmeditation, on Mount Kailash. However, even though he representsdestruction, he is viewed as a positive force, the Destroyer of Evil.His vahan (mount) is 'Nandi', the Bull. He is usually represented bythe symbol of Shiv ling. His consort is 'Parvati', a goddess whocomes in many different forms, one of whom is Kaali, the goddess ofdeath. As Nataraj Shiv is the Lord of the Dance, and also symbolizesthe dance of the Universe, with all its delicately balanced heavenlybodies and natural laws which complement and balance each other. Heis also symbolized as doing his great dance of destruction, calledTaandava signifying praleya -- the doom's day, implying totaldissolution of the universe.

All the three reflections are in fact one God performing threedifferent functions of creation, preservation and finally destructionsame way as a human can be son to the parents, husband to the wife,and parent of his children. All the three separate functions areperformed by the same person but the person is viewed differently byhis parents, wife and children. The concept of Trinity wraps initself the 'Theory of division of power' that was propounded byMontesquieu of France, much later. Supreme God is personified intothe Trinity of Brahm Vishnu and Shiv. While Brahm, Vishnu and Shivfunction within their respective areas of creativity, preservation,and destruction respectively and do not trespass or interfere in tothe field of each other's. They consult each other whenever there isany crisis in the universe. Thus 'Government of the Universe'reflects 'division of power' as well as 'interdependence' thatMontesquieu preached to the political thinkers of the west inninteenth century.

Hindu supreme Gods are not confined to any geopgraphical place andperiod. They neither have any beginning or any ending. They areuniversal.

Chand K Sharma

End of forwarded message from Chand K Sharma

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti

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== 2 of 3 ==Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 11:15 am From: Franz Gnaedinger

On Jan 6, 8:36 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:> On Jan 6, 8:19 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:>>>> > That false doctor who calls himself Jai Maharaj is again> > trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began> > his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group> > around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of> > the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong> > calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya> > ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just> > a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers> > creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and> > sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj> > sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda> > for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of> > the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche> > among those people he apparently believes are especially> > prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding> > target of his astrological enterprise.>> Repeating my message because that false doctor Jai Maharaj> is spamming sci.lang at an increasing rate.

Surat - In its offensive against conversion of tribals toChristianity, Maharashtra-based Shree Sampraday sect claimed to havereconverted 1,747 people back to Hinduism in Surat on Monday. Ashadow has, however, been cast on the event with Surat districtmagistrate taking note of the organisers' failure to seek permissionfor reconversion as stipulated in the Gujarat Freedom of ReligionAct, 2003.

The camp to reconvert tribals, who had embraced Christianity was heldin the city for the first time and nearly 5,000 people fromMaharashtra and Gujarat participated in the ceremony.

About 10 priests chanted mantras at a 'havan' around which sat thosewilling to get back to Hinduism. The participants were given'gurumantra' and 'janaiv' (sacred thread) to mark their reconversion.The event started around 10 am and continued till late in theevening.

Saints from different parts of the country also took part in theevent. The platform was freely used by saints to attack some minorityreligions. A large number of tribal participants came to the venuefrom Dangs, Valsad, Navsari and Maharashtra's Thane and Nandurbardistricts.

"We organised the event in Surat to promote Hinduism in urban areas.We have a series of events planned in the near future to hold suchreconversion camps in urban areas of Gujarat. In January, events areplanned in Vadodara and Silvassa," said Yashwant More, secretary ofSurat District Seva Samiti of Shree Sampraday. Reacting to the eventSurat district collector A J Shah said: "As per law, prior permissionis required for religious conversion.

However, I have not received any application for conversion orreconversion. In fact I don't know about the event." However, Moresaid: "We don't know about any such law and hence we have not takenany permission from the district magistrate. Though we got anaffidavit notarised informing about the 1,747 people gettingreconverted to Hinduism."

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