For example I have never carried any sort of stove on a wall. I hate the idea of a fire and petro-chemical mix whilst i'm attached to the wall with nylon string! I just eat cold food. Burrito wraps are my fav, as they are pretty indestructible in the haulbag and aren't bulky.

On 21/06/2012 gfdonc wrote:>On 20/06/2012 Fish Boy wrote:>>Protrax and 1:1>>Yes and +1 for that suggestion as well, provided you're strong enough>(and/or heavy enough) and the bag isn't too heavy to haul 1:1.>>I had to haul 3:1 to Sickle on the Nose, after that it got easier and>I could haul 1:1 with some grunt (but it's so much faster the nett effort>it a lot less).>Bear in mind hauling to Sickle used 3 ropes tied together - an extra 10kg?>

The stretch in the ropes would have made that an epic!

I remember hauling to sickle with a 5 day pig being a pain but we did single rope hauls i think. Vague recollections of trying 1:3 but quickly went back to 1:1 and just did the usual cheats (pull up tensioned line with armsies, both climbers weight being used, etc)

Go light and fast is almost a religion in the US west coast climbing scene, whether its yosemite grade V's, high sierras, wind rivers, bugs. Remember oogling all the ultra light weight gear available in the climbing shops, not so much from it not being easily available in oz, more that we dont have many things big enough to justify their use!

We had several stoves on the ground but never brought it up the wall. There is no point in having to use a stove to hydrate a meal when you are carrying up all the water anyway. Just bring juicy pre-cooked food in tins!

On 21/06/2012 nmonteith wrote:>On 21/06/2012 Fish Boy wrote:>>You didn't have a stove at Baffin?>>There is no point in having to use a stove to hydrate a meal when you are>carrying up all the water anyway. Just bring juicy pre-cooked food in tins!

You eat em cold Neil?

That's like saying there's no point making love to a beautiful woman when your hand will do!

My Zion (145 L) haulbag is always full, and we attach the ledges underneith (not in the bag).

A 70L bag wouldn't fit very well with our style of wall climbing (Luxury).

If you're interested in observing the different haul configurations that teams use (2 bags side by side, 2 bags in line, flagging ledges vs packing them, poo tube dangling etc) take a peek at the rad picks that Tom Evans posts here each day while the Yosemite season is in full swing:

Bring a stove!!! Soo worth it! While yes neils right that you'll be so hungry anything will be nice. But a can of chilli will be the best meal of your life once heated! Jetboil have a hanging stove kit(fits reactors too), but sit just as well in your lap. Screw on burners are easy, get an old tangia pot, drill a hole in the middle so it sits between the cannister and burner. Bit of wire and voila, your portaledge gets a michelin star.

Cans/boil in the bag meals are best, as you would need to carry water for freezedried anyway. Im a firm believer in taking some more food. Those few kilos extra munchies make it so much more enjoyable, especially after a storm-fly hot-box...

A stove makes wall climbing a civilized pursuit. We got busted about to bivy at the base of the Trip and the rangers said, "We don't believe you're about to take a two burner propane stove and a lantern up El Cap." We smirked, "how do you think we're going to cook all this bacon and three dozen eggs?" and started jugging- in our Pooh and Tigger costumes.

On 23/06/2012 Singersmith wrote:>A stove makes wall climbing a civilized pursuit. We got busted about to>bivy at the base of the Trip and the rangers said, "We don't believe you're>about to take a two burner propane stove and a lantern up El Cap." We smirked,>"how do you think we're going to cook all this bacon and three dozen eggs?">and started jugging- in our Pooh and Tigger costumes.

Love it!
Re the Pooh and Tigger costumes; was that a special occasion, or just a random act of frivolity?
Any pics?