Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

(10-08-2017 08:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

(10-08-2017 08:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

What is the origin of this rivalry?

I really can't tell you. Many North Texas fans do not even view it as a rivalry. It seems fans and players have different reasons for their hate of the other's university. The writing above only summarizes some of the areas of contention between us.

(10-08-2017 08:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

(10-08-2017 08:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

(10-08-2017 08:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: Many UTSA fans Hate North Texas, and we don't care much for them either. Maybe the loss to Southern Miss will keep some from trash talking the week, but I have a feeling the self restraint will quickly pass, and most will be at each other throats by Saturday. Here is a quick rundown of the History of Hate for those wondering just how we got to this point...

2012- UTSA joins the WAC (In the months leading up to the invitation, myself and maybe a few other North Texas fans frequented the WAC board and expressed our displeasure at the addition.=USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Later in 2012- It was announced that UTSA would be joining C-USA for the 2013 season (Myself, a few other UNT fans, and some UTEP fans expressed our displeasure about this addition = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2013- UTSA@North Texas, San Antonio came to Denton and squeaked out a victory (21-13) over our very good HOD Bowl championship team. (This loss kept UNT for the C-USA title game, and it has been perceived that UTSA fans generally annoyed the UNT fans and were not very respectful of our stadium = North Texas fans didn't appreciate this)

2015- In a season of unprecedented losses, and under the guidance of an interim head coach, North Texas earned our only victory of the season by topping an almost equally miserable UTSA team 30-23 in Denton.(After pointing out our terrible loss to Portland State for a large portion of the season, North Texas fans were quick to point out that UTSA had now become the only team to lose to our team = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

2016- Leading up to this game at the Alamodome, players on both sides openly expressed their dislike for each other. North Texas lost the game. ( "allegedly" at some point North Texas players pissed on the UTSA field. North Texas went on to recieve a Heart of Dallas Bowl invitation despite a 5-7 record, while UTSA (6-6) was sent to New Mexico. = USTA fans didn't appreciate this)

Which bring us to the 2017 addition of this clash of Good (North Texas) vs. Evil (UTSA).

Well, the lack of respect went both ways in 2013 though. Some of ours were disrespectful toward yours, but some of yours were disrespectful toward ours as well, and our team. Also, our team reacted inappropriately to the fans heckling them behind our bench. Shouldn't happen, I know.

You left out 2014 btw. We won 34-27.

And it's UTSA. It's really not difficult; just one letter more than UNT.

(10-08-2017 11:04 PM)DarrellEW Wrote: UTSA was invited to C-USA, despite not "earning it" by being a mediocre football team for 100 years like North Texas Community College = NTCC fans didn't appreciate this

UTSA has an alum who owns a bunch of Yum! brand franchises (including KFC) and frequently runs giveaways for UTSA tickets = NTCC fans didn't appreciate this for some reason

North Texas AD Wren Baker recently referred to UTSA as a community college, presumably after applying for UTSA's AD job and never getting a call back = UTSA didn't appreciate this