Another news article related to Patriot Act

Jun 22 - Even as the government increasingly comes under fire from civil libertarians for using Patriot Act provisions to seek personal
information without probable cause, some lawmakers are working to expand those powers.

In recent months, signs of public outrage have begun to surface over the FBI’s use of National Security Letters (NSLs) to secretly demand information
from business and public agencies about their clientele. Under one of the most controversial section of the USA PATRIOT Act, third party record
holders who receive NSLs requesting information about their patrons are forbidden from telling anyone about the Letter.

Yea, how can you automatically assume that everything in the Patriot Act is just and even effective just because it is poses as a bill to prevent
terrorism? It seems that there need to be some changes within the FBI, CIA, DMV, and other government offices before they start hounding public and
private businesses for information. This stuff is extremely sketchy and I believe it is only a matter of time before this blows up in our (the
peoples) face even more than it already has.

The government is using "Terrorism" to promote easy access to your private information without having to go before the courts to obtain it. It
violates our constitional rights and you can't even publicly challenge it. To top that off we still have law makers that want to increase the power
of the ACT. Unbelievable

Apparently the American Library Association plans to do a survey of a thousand libraries to see how often Federal Agents have used the Patriot Act to
secretly obtain the records of library patrons. Library's plan survey

Now isn't this a violation of the Patriot Act it's self? The association does state further in the article that they will be careful to avoid
identifying any libraries that respond to avoid violating the Patriot Act. But doesn't just disclosing the information put you in violation?

The ACLU is challenging the ACT and has had to file the complaint "sealed" in court for fear of the complaint it's self being a violation of the
Patroit Act.

The ACLU filed the complaint under seal, for fear that doing otherwise itself would be a Patriot Act violation. And indeed, Judge Victor Marrero
subsequently ruled that not only the complaint, but also everything in the case must be kept under seal.

Whenever I tell people how bad the Patriot Act is they say "well you're not a terrorist, so unless you do something bad you have nothing to worry
about." Well I'm worried about the fact that the government HAS that ability even if they're not gonna use it on me anytime soon. If the
government wanted to they could fabricate some reason that I'm a criminal and come after me, and the Patriot Act just makes it easier.

My uncle is Lebanese, but he's not first generation and he used to work for the state, writing and editing budgets and so he traveled around
frequently having meetings here and there...Right after the attacks, when they were detaining any "arab looking" people boarding flights, etc. he
was stopped in almost every airport he went to until things began to die down - His skin tone is very light for middle eastern descent, he has a
Masters degree in psychology and he's a very well respected man amongst his peers...

Does the government care to stope and look at these things? No...they still use your skin color to make flase judgments, waisitng people's time and
depriving them of their freedoms...it's incredible what lengths our government will go to.

For now it's the Aye-Rabs. Next who knows. In Hitler's Germany, he was rounding up homosexuals in the 30's and placing them in concentration camps.
They were the first to be executed.

Basically, anyone the government deems as their personal enemy (dissidents, CHristians, homosexuals) will be designated as terrorists. If we do not
put a stop to this now, it will only get worse. And by then, there will be no stopping it.

Everyone - with the exception of the most wealthy elite - are in danger! Take that to the bank.

EastCoastKid, you made me think... There is a trend in the ACLU to make Christians seem evil, and they're trying to take away our ability to
practice our religion. What happens if this is because of the government, and some day we ARE labeled as terrorists? I truly hope we never have to
face such a thing...

Originally posted by Faisca
EastCoastKid, you made me think... There is a trend in the ACLU to make Christians seem evil, and they're trying to take away our ability to
practice our religion. What happens if this is because of the government, and some day we ARE labeled as terrorists? I truly hope we never have to
face such a thing...

I think that you will eventually face such a threat. I've read many articles about how those in Power over the United
States wish to get rid of the "Patriots" and "Christians", those who wish to protect America.

Originally posted by Faisca
EastCoastKid, you made me think... There is a trend in the ACLU to make Christians seem evil, and they're trying to take away our ability to
practice our religion. What happens if this is because of the government, and some day we ARE labeled as terrorists? I truly hope we never have to
face such a thing...

I truly believe that day is coming. If you read the scriptures on the end times, one can only come to that conclusion. I don't think it's so much
coming from the ACLU, per se. It comes more from those who only claim to know God, in all positions of power. (False Prophets) They are all around
us.

I believe that after the rapture (bear with me for a moment, non-believers) occurs, the witch hunt will begin in earnest for those who have come to
their senses and accept Christ as their savior. According to the scriptures, they will pay the ultimate price in martyrdom.

Originally posted by Faisca
Well I guess all I can do right now is keep praying that the Patriot Act 2 doesnt get passed, and that the Patriot Act goes away... =/ Probably
won't happen though.

Faisca, you can do more! Keep praying, but also call and write your congressmen, senators and any media outlets that you can. Make as many people
aware of what is really going on and what we face in the future. Be a PATRIOT! And FEAR NOT!

Originally posted by IMMORTAL
I think that you will eventually face such a threat. I've read many articles about how those in Power over the United States wish to get rid of the
"Patriots" and "Christians", those who wish to protect America.

Aren't the people pushing the Patriot Act and it's agenda Christians? Ashcroft? Bush? Maybe they are apart of a cabal to begin the end of days. That
would explain some really irrational foreign and domestic decisions. They are trying to bring in the apocolypse, to hurry Christ's return.

And I'd just like to let you know that I have actually done some of the advice you gave me in regards to the Patriot Act. I wrote an entire article
about it for my school newspaper, hopefully I opened up some eyes and minds across campus. I plan on writing something for my local newspaper also.
So we'll see, every little bit helps.

If not... Well when the crap goes down the government can send their boys after me, but they'll have to find me in the tons of acres I have behind
my house and they probably won't end up taking me alive... So martyrdom here I come, I guess...

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