Like what? I need energy due to being 50 and I work my butt off all day as a.welder. I don't want be be stemmed out and can't sleep when I get home from the gym. I tried friction by vpx and was up all night. Any advice would be great thanks

Like what? I need energy due to being 50 and I work my butt off all day as a.welder. I don't want be be stemmed out and can't sleep when I get home from the gym. I tried friction by vpx and was up all night. Any advice would be great thanks

Friction is probably the most dangerous pre workout of them all. No wonder you were up all night lol.

Like what? I need energy due to being 50 and I work my butt off all day as a.welder. I don't want be be stemmed out and can't sleep when I get home from the gym. I tried friction by vpx and was up all night. Any advice would be great thanks

A serving of Game day (half scoop) is 200mg of caffeine, so if you decide to pick it up I wouldn't suggest a full scoop.

Have you ever considered checking out a stim free pre like Body Octane or Hemavol and then add in your own stim (ie 100mg or 200mg caffeine tabs).

Never thought about that option. But it does sound good. I could tweak it to best fit my needs. I read about condense today also any thoughts on it. Also if it went the mix my own route which on would be the best

Never thought about that option. But it does sound good. I could tweak it to best fit my needs. I read about condense today also any thoughts on it. Also if it went the mix my own route which on would be the best

I cannot comment on Condense. I've never looked at the profile, or could I even tell you who makes it.

That's the good thing about stim free pre's you just add whatever you feel like you need. I would just check out both profiles and see what you think looks best to suit your needs. Both taste pretty delicious too. lol