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"lack of motivation" will be as bad as "vitor is wrong for wanting to fight anderson, a fellow brazillian". the blackhouse gym fighters are lucky i don't "have the motivation" to travel across the US to punch each and every one of them in the face. having said that, i would particularly enjoy punching ed soars in the face til his eyeballs pop out 12 or so inches as in a scooby doo cartoon.

I guess what the OP is saying is if Anderson loses does it really mean he isn't a better fighter than Vitor?

Would a 'prime' Anderson Silva win this fight?

I can sort of see the point but of course it wouldn't be an 'excuse'. The question to me is legacy. If Anderson loses, I can see him retiring at MW or retiring altogether, but I couldn't say his legacy wouldn't be that of the greatest MW of all time just because he lost one fight later in his career.

let's not forget how easy belfort wrestled lidell (who has much better tdd than andy) to the floor several times, if belfort chooses to take that approach for this fight. belfort also has better bjj than silva, though i doubt he'll choose or even need to use it.

I honestly don't agree that Vitor has better bjj. Anderson has subbed high quality ground fighters. Much higher quality than the opponent's Vitor has subbed. Anderson's body type is designed to be dangerous off of his back - long, lanky, and strong. He can utilize elbows and up kicks effectively as well as threaten with credible submission attempts.

Well I think we just need to agree to disagree on our analysis of this particular match up. We'll see come fight night anyway.

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"lack of motivation" will be an even worse/more irrelevant excuse than "he was too old".

Being old and past your prime is irrelevant to competing in MMA.

Yeah, O.K.

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Originally Posted by pacmantyson

"lack of motivation" will be as bad as "vitor is wrong for wanting to fight anderson, a fellow brazillian". the blackhouse gym fighters are lucky i don't "have the motivation" to travel across the US to punch each and every one of them in the face. having said that, i would particularly enjoy punching ed soars in the face til his eyeballs pop out 12 or so inches as in a scooby doo cartoon.

Yes. Lucky. I'm sure they are lucky a keyboard warrior doesn't show them what for!

I don't see myself making any excuses if Anderson loses. He was getting his A** handed to him in his last fight and I readily admitted that he was definitely going to lose that fight, until he miraclously pulled out the last minute submission. Vitor can easily win this fight, but I don't see it happening.

"lack of motivation" will be as bad as "vitor is wrong for wanting to fight anderson, a fellow brazillian". the blackhouse gym fighters are lucky i don't "have the motivation" to travel across the US to punch each and every one of them in the face. having said that, i would particularly enjoy punching ed soars in the face til his eyeballs pop out 12 or so inches as in a scooby doo cartoon.

I really don't understand your reasons for such confidence in Belfort. What has he done lately? It's true he is on a 5 fight win streak, but honestly the calibre of fighters he has faced in those five fights is laughable. The only notable win is Franklin, which was a good one, but before that he beat Lindland and Terry Martin, both of whom exist only to get knocked out. The two wins before that were no names.

Before that, he was on a 2-5 run, with both of those wins against no names, and 5 losses against every decent fighter he faced.

Befort has a chance, he has good hands, but I see no reason at all to think he will win this fight.

Anderson Silva is not Matt Lindland or Terry Martin, and Belfort is going to find out what the difference is on the 5th.

Im tired of hereing all the excuses as to why he put lame fights VS Grappler's and the stupid theories about not KO'ing Brazilians even though he has knocked 3 out already and how "HE SUPPOSEDLY LET" Sonnen take him down to try for a sub, no if he loses he lost because the other guy was better on the night and deserved to win.

You know this is one of those fights where it doesn't matter who wins or loses. What these two do after this fight will have a much bigger influence on me (and likely everyone else) over who wins or loses.

If Anderson beats Belfort and then Belfort goes on to stay in the MW top ten then it's a good fight. If Belfort loses this fight and then loses many other fights and is cut from the UFC then it will just be another can Silva fought to pad his record.