I'm not a fan of President Obama but this direct threat to our country and the family of the President makes my blood boil. Someone in Tehran needs to put a muzzle on this guy before he gets himself killed.

The problem with President Obama is that he believes in his vision of the world. He cannot differentiate between the world he believes exists and the one that actually exists. Additionally, the lines between realities and lies fed to Americans often are blurred in that part of the world.

Uh-huh. The problem may be that you don't know WTF you are talking about.

Damn. Another ism fails in practical application. I was so hoping this was the one that could be applied to everything under the sun.

No, this works in practical application on this issue, including the broader ME. There is no threat to us, this has nothing to do with our national security or our credibility. Nada. It's hawkish progressivism....the same kind that destroyed federalism in the US using the noble lie and quest to right wrongs. Reagan would not support any of this per his points in his autobio, which Laura Ingraham pointed out last night was well.

No, this works in practical application on this issue, including the broader ME. There is no threat to us, this has nothing to do with our national security or our credibility. Nada. It's hawkish progressivism....the same kind that destroyed federalism in the US using the noble lie and quest to right wrongs. Reagan would not support any of this per his points in his autobio, which Laura Ingraham pointed out last night was well.

I won't try to guess what a long-dead president might or might not do today. Leaving that to you, I wonder how you can say that there is no threat to us when the entire reason for this thread is for us to discuss a very direct and extraordinarily disgusting threat to the families of elected, appointed and voluntary U.S. officials. No threat? Really? How are you able to turn off your ears and eyes so effectively in favor of ideological dogma?

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I won't try to guess what a long-dead president might or might not do today. Leaving that to you, I wonder how you can say that there is no threat to us when the entire reason for this thread is for us to discuss a very direct and extraordinarily disgusting threat to the families of elected, appointed and voluntary U.S. officials. No threat? Really? How are you able to turn off your ears and eyes so effectively in favor of ideological dogma?

The threat is inexcusable. Wouldn't bother me if they took that guy out.

I'm not a fan of President Obama but this direct threat to our country and the family of the President makes my blood boil. Someone in Tehran needs to put a muzzle on this guy before he gets himself killed.

why don't you go over there and fix it because my tax money and my gov't does not need to fix this shit. thx

Either way, it's a huge breach with libertarianism the basis of which is the non-aggression doctrine. You sound a bit left-progressive-hawk on FP listo. Just an observation.

No, it's not. Meaningfully threatening to kidnap and kill our citizens is an act of aggression. Meaningfully threatening to kidnap and kill our President is an act of war. Non-aggression doctrine does not dictate that you roll over and wait for someone to kill you. It simply dictates that you don't initiate aggression. There is nothing inherently leftist, or progressive, or hawkish about responding to aggression.

No, this works in practical application on this issue, including the broader ME. There is no threat to us, this has nothing to do with our national security or our credibility. Nada. It's hawkish progressivism....the same kind that destroyed federalism in the US using the noble lie and quest to right wrongs. Reagan would not support any of this per his points in his autobio, which Laura Ingraham pointed out last night was well.

It depends on the situation. These incidents are exactly why we have an "intelligence community." If some nut with a camera and a mic is yelling, 'Death to America!" then we don't take that as a meaningful threat. If a political/religious/social leader with access to/control of a covert tactical network releases a mission statement outlining specific threats to our elected officials, then we investigate it and determine the legitimacy of the threat. If that threat can be determined as legitimate then we are justified in using assassination.

It depends on the situation. These incidents are exactly why we have an "intelligence community." If some nut with a camera and a mic is yelling, 'Death to America!" then we don't take that as a meaningful threat. If a political/religious/social leader with access to/control of a covert tactical network releases a mission statement outlining specific threats to our elected officials, then we investigate it and determine the legitimacy of the threat. If that threat can be determined as legitimate then we are justified in using assassination.