Re: 10 Dior Exclusives this Fall

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Oh yeah baby? Well, let's see how high you're gonna fling your hat when the 10 frags turn out to be as vapid as Dior Higher/Higher Energy
Dior IS respectable indeed but they made those horrid Higher frags LOL

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Agreeing with both, but I say FORTUNATELY. DiamondFlame is totally right - the LAST thing we want is another D&G Anthology. Those things were purely mass market fragrances - both in fragrance and in fact they are "non-exclusifs".

The fact that these Dior frags are being held back behind the boutique counter implies that they would die on the department-store counter or Aisle 1 at Sephora. "D&G" is Dolce and Gabbana's valid effort to appeal to the mass market - it was never intended for the high-end luxury market and the serious fragrance fan. It sure looks like this is.

Now I have to say - releasing ten too quickly is a BAD sign. However, it depends on the history. If this has been in the works for a while, or if these represent stuff that never made the final cut because the mass appeal was judged to be lacking, they could be excellent frags. Personally, I find the Tom Ford private collection to be a little too carbon-copy, but at a very high level of quality. And the Chanel collection is respectable. I'm willing to entertain the idea that these could be great frags..... but I'll let my nose be the final judge.

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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto

Agreeing with both, but I say FORTUNATELY. DiamondFlame is totally right - the LAST thing we want is another D&G Anthology. Those things were purely mass market fragrances - both in fragrance and in fact they are "non-exclusifs".

The fact that these Dior frags are being held back behind the boutique counter implies that they would die on the department-store counter or Aisle 1 at Sephora. "D&G" is Dolce and Gabbana's valid effort to appeal to the mass market - it was never intended for the high-end luxury market and the serious fragrance fan. It sure looks like this is.

Now I have to say - releasing ten too quickly is a BAD sign. However, it depends on the history. If this has been in the works for a while, or if these represent stuff that never made the final cut because the mass appeal was judged to be lacking, they could be excellent frags. Personally, I find the Tom Ford private collection to be a little too carbon-copy, but at a very high level of quality. And the Chanel collection is respectable. I'm willing to entertain the idea that these could be great frags..... but I'll let my nose be the final judge.

I agree, hopefully they'll be similar in quality to Tom Ford's private blends, but who knows? I'm looking forward to trying them, especially the leather oud.

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This trend of releases new fragrances en masse is disturbing. We have groups of six, ten, twelve, and perhaps more.

I wish these companies would concentrate on releasing one really good fragrance every couple of years or so rather than releasing batches of mediocre ones all at once.

But who knows? Most of these might prove to be pretty good, but I have my doubts!

Couldn't agree more. What's next? Instant luxury fragrance company with an entire lineup? It makes me wonder how much thought went into the things. The actual pedigree of the scents tells the real story. Many of the greatest scents (like Egoiste, for a recently divulged example) have a substantial history as ideas or differently named fragrances, often in search of the right time and form to be expressed. When you hear the story from the perfumer, there is some gravitas. Some investment. But when I hear about a sudden egg-carton dozen of scents, I'm suspicious that they appeared when somebody said something like (just for instance) "give me four soft feminine musks, centered on the word 'white'!". Really? If that's the case, then is each one only worth one quarter of a quasi-classic at best? How seriously are we supposed to take the work? Look at the Hermès Jardin series. Simultaneously brilliant and flawed, they do have something which we all value here, and which we will gladly pay for. They're REAL.

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I wanted so badly to try Eau Noire. Then my stepdad who likes fragrances, but is content with $4 bottles of anything, finds my sample on the table and uses it. I found it empty in the car. I was so upset.. still am. I got to get a glimpse of it the day I got it but nothing after that Instead of getting a fragrance for winter I had my mom get me samples from TPC, and this was one of them. Someday I hope to be able to try it again.. not sure if I will though. Hopefully I'll be able to try a couple of these if I can. There's no way in hell I'll be able to get to a boutique except if I plan a whole day to NYC.

“Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other.”
Karl, age 5

Re: 10 Dior Exclusives this Fall

I hope they carry them over here - there's only one Dior flagship carrying the four others (Cologne Blanche etc) and they are sort of tucked away - clearly not a high priority item.

I am a little wary of ready made 'collections' but at least with Dior there's a precedent and they are incorporating three of the four existing exclusives into this line. Look forward to finding out just how well conceived the collection turns out to be, how long it has been in the works, who got roped in to create them etc.

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Well the notes for the new Cologne Royale are clearly not the same as Cologne Blanche so that leaves CB flapping out in the wind - I wonder if it's going to go? I've tried it a couple of times and it resembles Histoires de Parfum 1725 a bit, which I like. Might revisit and pick one up. Cologne Royale and Granville look like pretty trad hale and hearty masculines . . .

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I wasn't that blown away by their exclusive line right now actually. I liked Eau Blanche and Bois D'Argent, but not enough to pay whatever they're asking for to get them. I admit that Leather Oud intrigued me, so let's just say that I'm cautiously optimistic about them...

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More info about the Cologne Collection:http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...er_p.html#more
As some basenoters suspected, dior is adding more scents to their cologne collection. The Vetiver and Leather Oud are the ones that sound more appealing to me. I just hope that they do the cologne collection in smaller sizes - 75 or 50ml would be great - and with spray. I hate having to decant my Bois d'Argent and my Cologne Blanche everytime i want to wear them...

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And Octavian has already rumoured about this collection at the beginning of the year on his blog 1000fragrances. It seems that his font was a great one - since he announced that dior would launch a hypnotic poison flanker too.

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Ok, perhaps something isn't made clear in the link from the scented salamander. They mention that there will be 10 fragrances comprising this collection. Three of them are already existing (Ambre Nuit, Bois d'Argent and Eau Noire), and then they go on to mention the remaining 7 releases. Why isn't Cologne Blanche included in this collection? Is it discontinued, just a mistake, or is it considered part of another collection? Either way, I will NEVER turn down the opportunity to try a new vetiver scent.

Edit: If I had continued reading, I would have noticed they mention how they are trying to verify whether or not Cologne Royale is a new fragrance or a renamed Cologne Blanche. I'd have to imagine it being the latter, otherwise I'm very confused.

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I'm looking forward to trying New Look, but then I'm Mr. Tuberose, so I would. I look forward to any niche-y tuberose.

The rest don't really pique my interest. Mitzah could be great but I am totally oversupplied with orientals that do those notes wonderfully, so there will need to be something else to it to grab my attention. Granville is "fresh, aromatic and sharp" and without further notes that tells me almost nothing. The cologne I'm fine forgetting about. Milly's description of a delicate musk isn't my style ( hey, enough with this white musk trend - give me some skank! ) The vetiver probably uses the coffee note I can't stand ( I'm picturing New Haarlem with vetiver instead of patch ). The ad copy for Leather Oud just screams BIRCH TAR, BIRCH TAR, BIRCH TAR so I feel safe stearing well away ( not that I mind birch tar in small doses ).

I honestly don't mind the line-by-the-batch releases, I just wish the genres were less predictable. There WILL be an amber; there WILL be a vetiver; there WILL be a gourmand; there WILL be an oud. Shake things up a little and it'll draw more attention for folks like Basenoters, at least I think so.

New collection by Christian Dior!!!

I have got an info about new exclusive La Collection Couturier Parfumeur Christian Dior.
Ten fragrances in Collection, with 3 masculines that we are knew before (Eau Noire, Ambre Nuit, Bois d`Argent), and three new masculines (Cologne Royale, Vetiver and Leather Oud).
Also some feminines: New Look 1947, Mitzah, Granville, Milly-La-Foret.

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I'm interested in Granville which seems like what would be a "classic" men's cologne and Milly-la-Forêt, since i'm just hoping it's not another boring version of soft "purple flowers" with the regular white musk base that's so common nowadays in women's scents.

of course as i mentioned i wanna smell the leather oud and can i say that a man can never have enough Vetiver? i certainly can't!

Okay, a little less intrigued by New Look ( pink pepper seems to be the top-note autotune of late ), but suddenly much more interested in Mitzah and Milly, and will give Leather Oud a try ( clove and cardamon have lured me in ).

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I`m going to try all, but made my bets on Granville, Vetiver (even if it sounds like Jo Malone Black Vetiver Coffee), and Leather Oud. And lesser amount on Cologne Royale, as I detect some note similarities with new Eau Sauvage Concentree (that of black bottle, the cologne I like so much, but sure is more affordable).

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Wow, this is really exciting news! The three new men's offerings sound like they're built around classic themes, but I'm always open to a new leather and a new vetiver. The women's sound a little more abstract, Mitzah? Sounds like a mitzvah.

Re: New collection by Christian Dior!!!

Originally Posted by Kevin Guyer

Wow, this is really exciting news! The three new men's offerings sound like they're built around classic themes, but I'm always open to a new leather and a new vetiver. The women's sound a little more abstract, Mitzah? Sounds like a mitzvah.

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Originally Posted by moon_fish

I have got an info about new exclusive La Collection Couturier Parfumeur Christian Dior.
Ten fragrances in Collection, with 3 masculines that we are knew before (Eau Noire, Ambre Nuit, Bois d`Argent), and three new masculines (Cologne Royale, Vetiver and Leather Oud).
Also some feminines: New Look 1947, Mitzah, Granville, Milly-La-Foret.

Sorry, guys, no time to translate the text properly. Later I`d make it, maybe.
And if you fancy Cologne Blanche by Dior Colognes - you better store up, cause it looks like it`ll be discontinued.

Don`t know why, but i always had the impression that cologne blanche was the one from the line that didn`t sell well. It seems to be the weakest of the 4 available right now. My bottle will last ages, though, since I have one from the 250ml version...

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I managed to get a 125 ml bottle of Eau Noire yesterday. The SA told me the current EDT concentration would be discontinued and replaced by EDP starting today. I suspect the EDP version of Eau Noire is part of the new line of the 10 exclusives. More surprisingly the SA explained me that they were (yesterday) immediately removing all former EDT bottles from their stock (Eau Noire, Bois d'Argent and Cologne Blanche) and would not sell the remaining stock. She made it very clear that yesterday was my last opportunity to buy the EDT. I am no longer in Paris to check this but I will report back in 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Chassagne Montrachet

I managed to get a 125 ml bottle of Eau Noire yesterday. The SA told me the current EDT concentration would be discontinued and replaced by EDP starting today. I suspect the EDP version of Eau Noire is part of the new line of the 10 exclusives.

Can you confirm that all these will be in EDP concentration? If it wasn't for the strikes and not being aware they were already released in France, I would have investigated them a couple of days ago.

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Originally Posted by DULLAH

I know, I frowned upon that name LOL

Mitzah was named for Mitzah Bricard who was Dior's muse and quite the unique and "interesting" lady of her time. The scent sounds as if it will embody her wild/animal-like spirit. It is the only one that sounds interesting to me, possibly the Milly-la-Foret also.

I just do not understand why these companies cannot just create one or two "amazing" fragrances a year, or better yet every other year, instead of "collections" that are exclusive to the boutiques.