Well, it's about farking time the Brits grew their balls back and did something about this type of bureaucratic bullsh*ttery! I feel like flying to the UK just to give this traffic warden a beatdown myself.

utah dude:cirby: I'd take a less-violent approach. I'd take a photo of the guy writing the ticket, get his name off of the ticket, print up a whole lot of posters and flyers, and make sure that everyone in town knew exactly what sort of person they are. Especially including his family and neighbors. And his boss. And the judge.

rainbow colored flyers and a parade we get it. you're a pansy.

shame is a great approach. My neighbors and i shamed a SoCal Edison tech who came to turn the power off of a woman who had been spending the past two months in the hospital with her dying husband. He left without incident or shutting off her power. But yea, according to the internet tough guy club, we probably should have beat the snot out of him and lawyered-up. Or better yet, admitted we served true justice and payed thousands in fines and damages like real men.

The stupidity of the traffic warden was the cause of all the subsequent bother. Any magistrate with an ounce of intelligence would dismiss the complaint and advise the traffic warden to use better judgement in the future.

Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.Male announcer: [later] The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.Male announcer: The red zone has always been for loading and unloading of passengers. There's never stopping in a white zone.Female announcer: Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for stopping!Male announcer: Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shiat again.[Later]Male announcer: There's just no stopping in a white zone.Female announcer: Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.Male announcer: It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there's no danger involved.

I guess you think you're... you know, like an authority figure, with that stupid farkin' uniform, huh buddy? King clip-on-tie there, big farkin' man, huh? You know these are the limits of your life, man!

had98c:Zik-Zak: FTA: But the official replied, "I'm just doing my job" and carried on.

Really? The Nuremberg defense, really?

Because writing people tickets is in the same ballpark as genocide.

If you think people who write parking tickets (and most cops, and predatory tow truck drivers) would have any problems with throwing the switch to turn on the gas chambers then you are naive. They have no problems hurting other people if they get a paycheck. But they are too cowardly to hurt people without a badge, or bureaucracy or a "policy" to shield them from any personal responsibility.

doglover:mr_a: I do not support violence, especially against law enforcement and public officials.

But in this case, I might make an exception. What an ass.

I also do not condone violence against LEOs as policy. However, policy is not enough for every situation. Sometimes, force major strikes and you have to fall back to a good moral compass and the character to do what's right.

In this case, good. The traffic warden is lucky to be alive. Not because of the assault, but because anyone so butt farking stupid that they tried to ticket a man putting his wife in a hearse on her funeral day should have long ago killed himself by gross negligence, like bringing the hair dryer into the bathtub to save time.

I have nothing but disgust for the warden and the council's lack of an apology.

This clown wasn't a LEO. He's a traffic warden, i.e. meter maid, i.e. tax collector. He should have his ass beat for simply existing.

EdNortonsTwin:Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

Just another Heartland Weirdass:EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

If only there was a three digit number to call for professionals trained in the art of prehospital emergency medicine, who are also trained in transporting the sick and injured and come with a vehicle that can be exempt from most traffic laws when certain exterior lights are turned on. Damn, someone should invent that service.

Just another Heartland Weirdass:EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

I wouldn't be getting a ticket. I'd be going to jail or being let off.

Simply, you call comm center and tell them "hey, I'm the vehicle being followed by X, can you patch me through to X" and politely explain that you're not stopping until you get to the hospital or there's an ambulance waiting for you.

/works pretty well//they will try and get you to wait for an ambulance at a location, but that's a bad plan because they won't dispatch until you stop.

JPINFV:Just another Heartland Weirdass: EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

If only there was a three digit number to call for professionals trained in the art of prehospital emergency medicine, who are also trained in transporting the sick and injured and come with a vehicle that can be exempt from most traffic laws when certain exterior lights are turned on. Damn, someone should invent that service.

JPINFV:Just another Heartland Weirdass: EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

If only there was a three digit number to call for professionals trained in the art of prehospital emergency medicine, who are also trained in transporting the sick and injured and come with a vehicle that can be exempt from most traffic laws when certain exterior lights are turned on. Damn, someone should invent that service.

The existence of a magic number that can instantly resolve all medical problems is not the issue. I was pointing out that judges wont automatically toss a douchy ticket.

No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

Goimir:Just another Heartland Weirdass: EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

I wouldn't be getting a ticket. I'd be going to jail or being let off.

Simply, you call comm center and tell them "hey, I'm the vehicle being followed by X, can you patch me through to X" and politely explain that you're not stopping until you get to the hospital or there's an ambulance waiting for you.

/works pretty well//they will try and get you to wait for an ambulance at a location, but that's a bad plan because they won't dispatch until you stop.

Where were you when his wife was dying you selfish prick? Her blood is on your hands. Monster.

No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

False. You can choose to ignore traffic laws regardless of where you live. You may suffer some consequences though. Sersly are you retarded?

No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

English Common Law holds, and much precident exists that laws may be violated with reduced or no consequence in cases to save life, limb, and valuable property. So actually, it kind of does.

Fun fact: an ambulance, by law, is not permitted to run a red light or to speed. So when one of your loved ones is being transported, please inform the driver that you wish them to obey all traffic laws as they apply to normal situations.

Red light cameras can do this too. In a funeral procession through a traffic light intersection with a police escort? No problem if the light is green, otherwise there's a ticket for you in the mail. And for you. And for you. And for you. So many violations just show the need for the camera.

EdNortonsTwin:utah dude: cirby: I'd take a less-violent approach. I'd take a photo of the guy writing the ticket, get his name off of the ticket, print up a whole lot of posters and flyers, and make sure that everyone in town knew exactly what sort of person they are. Especially including his family and neighbors. And his boss. And the judge.

rainbow colored flyers and a parade we get it. you're a pansy.

shame is a great approach. My neighbors and i shamed a SoCal Edison tech who came to turn the power off of a woman who had been spending the past two months in the hospital with her dying husband. He left without incident or shutting off her power. But yea, according to the internet tough guy club, we probably should have beat the snot out of him and lawyered-up. Or better yet, admitted we served true justice and payed thousands in fines and damages like real men.

or just quietly turned the power back on with gloves on, off camera. seriously, do you regularly wear a sequined dress?

No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

cirby:When you take the public shaming route, he's the one who has to explain his actions to everyone.

no, you get slapped with slander and libel and end up spending $5000 in lawyers fees anyway. this is where a quick punch to billy douchebag's face with noone watching is an appropriate feedback mechanism. pay the ticket anyway, at least his nose bled on his public works poloshirt.

A TRAFFIC warden who tried to ticket mourners' cars before a funeral has claimed he was assaulted by the dead woman's grieving husband.Relatives of cancer victim Rena Page, 64, had briefly parked four cars on a single yellow line outside her home in Hunstanton, Norfolk, as they waited for the gran's cortege to move off.

Rena's husband of 48 years, Mac, 66, told the warden: "That's my wife in that hearse, what are you doing?" But the official replied, "I'm just doing my job" and carried on.The family have now been told he reported gardener Mac to the council and police for assault. Son Matthew, 39, said: "I cannot believe someone could be so insensitive."West Norfolk Council said no tickets had been issued - but refused to apologise.

Zik-Zak:FTA: But the official replied, "I'm just doing my job" and carried on.

Really? The Nuremberg defense, really?

The concept of the "Nuremberg Defense" can only be invoked if the order being followed and used as an excuse is unlawful according to either the international laws of War if the party is a signatory to the Geneva Convention (As Nazi Germany was), or if the party is following a blatantly unlawful order given that service's military code.

But, you just compared genocide and waging aggressive war to writing a traffic ticket.

Btw im not just arguing semantics. The criminal justice system is utterly and irrevocably premised on people choosing to ignore the law. While some will forever smugly sneer that those who transgress deserve whatever they get and more, those of us who live in a place I like to call the real world are capable of considering both facts and circumstances. Of being logical and compassionate.

Just another Heartland Weirdass:EdNortonsTwin: Cool, now they can spend even more time and money defending themselves for assault, rather than just getting a judge to throw out the ticket.

False. I Was once in court with a guywho received a ticket for speeding his dying wife to the hospital. She died. The man produced her death certificate in court. Judge gave him the same "deal" everyone else got. No deal.

Thats one omnipotent judge if he can enforce tickets accross the pond.

utah dude:EdNortonsTwin: utah dude: cirby: I'd take a less-violent approach. I'd take a photo of the guy writing the ticket, get his name off of the ticket, print up a whole lot of posters and flyers, and make sure that everyone in town knew exactly what sort of person they are. Especially including his family and neighbors. And his boss. And the judge.

rainbow colored flyers and a parade we get it. you're a pansy.

shame is a great approach. My neighbors and i shamed a SoCal Edison tech who came to turn the power off of a woman who had been spending the past two months in the hospital with her dying husband. He left without incident or shutting off her power. But yea, according to the internet tough guy club, we probably should have beat the snot out of him and lawyered-up. Or better yet, admitted we served true justice and payed thousands in fines and damages like real men.

or just quietly turned the power back on with gloves on, off camera. seriously, do you regularly wear a sequined dress?

As opposed to on-camera with bolt cutters?

Do you regularly come to Fark to live out your cross-dressing fantasies? Ah, you're from the land of magic-underwear. Nevermind.

EdNortonsTwin:utah dude: cirby: I'd take a less-violent approach. I'd take a photo of the guy writing the ticket, get his name off of the ticket, print up a whole lot of posters and flyers, and make sure that everyone in town knew exactly what sort of person they are. Especially including his family and neighbors. And his boss. And the judge.

rainbow colored flyers and a parade we get it. you're a pansy.

shame is a great approach. My neighbors and i shamed a SoCal Edison tech who came to turn the power off of a woman who had been spending the past two months in the hospital with her dying husband. He left without incident or shutting off her power. But yea, according to the internet tough guy club, we probably should have beat the snot out of him and lawyered-up. Or better yet, admitted we served true justice and payed thousands in fines and damages like real men.

The crucial distinction here is whether the electric company tech knew in advance what the woman's circumstances were.

Showing up to do your job, learning for the first time that the lady is in a horribly rough patch of life, exercising judgement, and leaving -- I'd hardly call that "shaming", and I would never cheer for abuse. Good on ya, mate.

Showing up to do your job, having already observed that a freaking funeral is in process, and proceeding to be an unredeemable jackass while hiding behind "only doing my job" -- yeah, that deserves shaming, and a broken nose. Ideally a public beheading as a lesson to other needlessly cruel civil servants.

Goimir:Fun fact: an ambulance, by law, is not permitted to run a red light or to speed. So when one of your loved ones is being transported, please inform the driver that you wish them to obey all traffic laws as they apply to normal situations.

Fun fact... in California an authorized emergency vehicle facing a forward facing steady red light and sounding a siren as necessary is exempt from the speed limit and red lights, as well as essentially the rest of the vehicle code in terms of rules of the road, provided it is done with due regard. Ambulances in California are one type of authorized emergency vehicle. California Vehicle Code section 21055-21056.

No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

False. You can choose to ignore traffic laws regardless of where you live. You may suffer some consequences though. Sersly are you retarded?

Sure... and I can choose to ignore laws against murder too. That doesn't mean I have a leg to stand on to complain about the consequences of said action when I have to face them.

Lady Indica:Guy just lost his wife of 48 years, and their cars are briefly stopped in a yellow zone while they're waiting for the hearse and procession to pass to follow. I dunno, on the east coast where I'm from funeral processions get a lot of leeway

The one time you don't need to be anywhere in a hurry, and they let you run every red light in town...

Fun fact: an ambulance, by law, is not permitted to run a red light or to speed. So when one of your loved ones is being transported, please inform the driver that you wish them to obey all traffic laws as they apply to normal situations.

Fun Fact: You have no clue what you're talking about, or how utterly wrong you are about the speed limit, or right of way at traffic lights when running red lights and sirens.

JPINFV:No... but I also don't live in the middle of nowhere. As such, response times for full time career paramedics is less than 10 minutes from placing the call to 911. Just because you choose to live someplace remote doesn't mean you also get to choose to ignore the traffic laws.

jaylectricity:Why would they have parked the hearse in a no parking zone?

When someone dies in the UK, undertakers collect the body and take it back to base where it is kept (embalming is very rare) and in due course placed in the coffin. If there are surviving relatives in the house of the deceased, and particularly if there is a widow/widower, the hearse will go to the house on the day of the funeral along with any hired cars and the cortege will assemble there for the journey to the church, grave or crematorium. Very few undertakers have facilities to conduct funerals in-house.

It is therefore very common for a procession of two to ten or more vehicles to assemble, briefly, outside the house. Any traffic warden worth his salt will know that, and to attempt to ticket the cars would be seen as spectacularly insensitive. Even if parking is restricted, other motorists will treat a cortege will respect and tolerance. In Scotland it was and in many places still is seen as a mark of disrespect to overtake a cortege, and I have seen the entire M8 motorway in Glasgow reduce voluntarily to one lane of moving traffic behind a hearse.