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In this episode Hillary and Nic find themselves marooned on a planet of endless war with the Kai and a hefty heap of war trauma. To win this battle we strategize accounting for a fantastic performance by Nana Visitor, charge into sudden and seemingly meaningless death, then to slow and clearly meaningless technobabble, and even meet on the field of combat over the success or failure of Kira's character arc. All this while saying a sad farewell to an important recurring character.

In this episode, Hillary and Nic continue talking to Academy Award winner Doug Drexler. In this part we get to hear him discuss his time working in makeup on The Next Generation, the transition to CG, and of course the incredible effort gone into recreating original series sets and models for the episode Trials and Tribble-ations.

In this episode Hillary and Nic take a break from talking about specific episodes to talk to Academy Award winner Doug Drexler who has worked on the franchise in makeup, scenic art, vfx and so much more. In this first part of a two part interview he talks about his youth spent watching Star Trek, how he started working in makeup and of course, how he came to work on The Next Generation and eventually Deep Space Nine. Make sure to tune in next week for the second half!

Hillary and Nic enter the Vortex this week and watch from a safe distance as Odo's capacity to trust is tested to the limits by a mysterious newcomer. We navigate through some spectacular visuals, orbit some fantastic performances and probe whether or not Croden works as a character. All this and more in this weeks Deep Space Now.