"Mexican military chopper crosses the border, shoots at agents"---News Tuscon

It sounds like Mexico needs some freedom. When they start doing things like this then it's time to line our borders with the military and stop it.
The US should retaliate immediately. This is an act of aggression and an act of war.

Gosh, i agree with all your sentiments (on this and many other subjects, actually). Coordinated invasion indeed---all I can think about is how the
healthcare system is already (was created?) in shambles, and now there is a HUGE influx of people who WILL need to use it, no maybe about it. Then I
think about all those poor kids being thrown to the dogs of the child welfare system (although so far, it looks like they're allowed to be pretty
much autonomous...)

You're spot-on with the unemployment numbers comment---every time they announce some new statistic re: unemployment I assume its just flat-out
horsesh!#...Between EBT, Obamacare (for lack of better word, I understand it's not just him), childcare (DSHS pays for childcare for EBT/WIC
families)....the numbers will read "success" but the reality we will see will be "Welfare Nation". It's a lot of people for systems that are
already over-used.

[Re: the "overused" comment. Based on personal experience, using EBT and WIC while pregnant/nursing. Its a sham to put you in the govt's pocket
and poison you (why can't poor kids drink organic formula, WIC?). And, it DOES motivate you to continue using the system after you're in. Can't
tell you how much money I'd make a month if only I popped out another 2 kids and maybe was an illegal resident.]

That's the good thing about this simple idea ... the desert crossings aren't the streets of America. They are just the desert crossings. The
military would have to build some barracks and other type buildings for the troops to come through. But when the troops are in the field there
aren't a whole lotta' buildings. It's mostly training mode.

The military is getting paid anyways and they have to train anyways.
So bring 'em home and put 'em on our borders ... in the desert crossings.

Cloward and Piven’s article is focused on forcing the Democratic Party, which in 1966 controlled the presidency and both houses of the
United States Congress, to take federal action to help the poor. They stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare “would produce
bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments” that would “deepen existing divisions among
elements in the big-city Democratic coalition: the remaining white middle class, the working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor. To
avoid a further weakening of that historic coalition, a national Democratic administration would be constrained to advance a federal solution to
poverty that would override local welfare failures, local class and racial conflicts and local revenue dilemmas.

originally posted by: Wookiep
It makes perfect sense, which is why it will never happen.

Seriously and sadly true.

When I was stationed at Fort Hood, the artillery units would be in the field training and everyone would know it. When those live fire exercises were
going on ... the whole town of Killeen shook. And those troops were probably 20 miles out. Imagine live fire exercises in the desert crossings. No
one would go through there.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT. These people are being places into empty housing on military bases (# homeless veterans, right?), on converted elderly care homes
(# old people, right?). It's not even that we can't take care of our own, its sadly and simply that we DON'T/WILL NOT. Hubby was army for a
while---lots of usable empty houses on every base, but thousands of homeless veterans (and more on the way). Stunning.

originally posted by: Fylgje
It sounds like Mexico needs some freedom. When they start doing things like this then it's time to line our borders with the military and stop it.
The US should retaliate immediately. This is an act of aggression and an act of war.

Act of war? Far from an act of war when no one was hurt or killed.
I do love that you started you post with Mexico needs some freedom, we all know that is US going to war 101 right there.

The Vigilante justice system (method?) has been approved by the Mexican government.

So what kind of people might be leaving that country specifically? Criminals, he says. People who may be trying to avoid justice in their home
country. Obviously it's not everyone, but just like the cases of MRSA and chicken pox and staph and whatnot, its a huge factor to consider. A
safety issue, some may say.

And we know dead people tend to vote right.
Cause you know those undocumented voters are just lined up at the polls. It's not like they usually don't like to give out their personal
information cause of fear of getting deported.

And we know dead people tend to vote right.
Cause you know those undocumented voters are just lined up at the polls. It's not like they usually don't like to give out their personal
information cause of fear of getting deported.

a reply to: neo96
Thing is .... bring in tens of millions of illegals and then give them all amnesty. Then they become citizens and voters. So yes, the illegals have
serious future potential as a voting block for someone ....

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: neo96
Thing is .... bring in tens of millions of illegals and then give them all amnesty. Then they become citizens and voters. So yes, the illegals have
serious future potential as a voting block for someone ....

a VERY valid point, thanks. These are not the times to take things at face value. Wise words; could've been anybody who can afford a paintjob for
their aircraft [ie any military].

This is why fully automated sam sites will work.
If anyone gets through, it will be fully known there is subterfuge and somewhere a hole needs to be ...plugged.
Computers show no favorites, just don't be in the area and you will be safe!
The whole south border should be a no fly zone to match the constitutional free area.

a reply to: jrflipjr
That marine broke the law of a sovereign nation and deserves what he should get.
But we know due to crooked dealings he will be home soon.
I know I don't appreciate foreigners coming to the US and breaking laws, I imagine foreign countries would feel the same.

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