An Ohio State spokesperson has confirmed that Terrelle Pryor will have surgery today to stabilize a ligament in his foot, injured Tuesday night in the Sugar Bowl.

This thread might be an appropriate forum for apologies and retractions from those posters so predisposed to hating on the Buckeye quarterback, that they filled this forum with baseless and defamatory slurs on the 21-yr old college student in recent days...either implying, or claiming outright that he was either faking the injury entirely, or exaggerating the pain he was in, or playing the injury up needlessly to garner sympathy with the fan base, or only pretending to require the assistance of teammates to help him walk to the awards podium to receive his MVP Award.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

He still shoulda been in the locker room if it was that severe and I still am not a fan of him personally. He seems to handle everything the wrong way

I do hope his surgery is successful and that the kid gets healthy. As I said before, as a college QB he is tremendous and Dan (as he has repeatedly and rightfully reminded me) is right in that kids mature at different points in life. Hoping TP's day comes before it costs him more than it has.

Same here. Did not think it was anything more than a low-grade sprain. Not sure that I did anything more than read others and nod according to their posts but I'll throw my hat in the apology line.

I won't apologize for my feelings toward Pryor as a player and "student" at OSU. I still stand by ever ounce of that.

Playing here is the closest thing to heaven. Really, I mean it's amazing to be in a place where the fans truly cherish their football team and stick behind them win or lose. We players love them, too. I feel a sense of accomplishment playing here, we are a special breed of football players with a great opportunity." ~ tOSU LB Brian Rolle

peeker643 wrote:He still shoulda been in the locker room if it was that severe [...] He seems to handle everything the wrong way.

Or...since he's not a doctor, and had no way of knowing how serious it was, maybe instead he could have just erred on the side of caution, and because of the pain, asked some teammates to help him get to the podium, so he wouldn't put any weight on it unnecessarily....oh, wait...he did that...and got ripped here for it.

Not trying to be a dick (it's involuntary). Your apology seemed gracious and sincere.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

exiledbuckeye wrote:Not sure why people "owe" apologies on a message board that Terrelle Pryor and his teammates are never, ever going to read.

Maybe suggesting an acknowledgment that the accusations seem to have been baseless and unfair would have been a better way to put it. It goes to credibility on the message board long term. Gnome sane?

Nobody "owes" anybody anything. I didn't use that word.

Allowing instantaneous reaction, or even "soon after" reactions to news and sports events on a message board means that these things will happen. Otherwise you'd have to lock down the forums for several days following anything to allow users time to reflect and gather their thoughts before thoughtfully posting. Not going to happen, and in my opinion the credibility of the message board is not affected at all by that. There are enough regular posters who post good information that make this a credible site worth visiting.

(FWIW, I put "owe" in quotes precisely because you didn't use it. I know that's weird. Sorry.)

exiledbuckeye wrote:Not sure why people "owe" apologies on a message board that Terrelle Pryor and his teammates are never, ever going to read.

Maybe suggesting an acknowledgment that the accusations seem to have been baseless and unfair would have been a better way to put it. It goes to credibility on the message board long term. Gnome sane?

Nobody "owes" anybody anything. I didn't use that word.

Allowing instantaneous reaction, or even "soon after" reactions to news and sports events on a message board means that these things will happen. Otherwise you'd have to lock down the forums for several days following anything to allow users time to reflect and gather their thoughts before thoughtfully posting. Not going to happen, and in my opinion the credibility of the message board is not affected at all by that. There are enough regular posters who post good information that make this a credible site worth visiting.

(FWIW, I put "owe" in quotes precisely because you didn't use it. I know that's weird. Sorry.)

All quite true. No argument.

All the more reason to be accountable for what you've said when the facts do come out.

Edit: I didn't mean anything about the credibility of the message board as a message board...it is what it is. I was talking about the credibility of individual posters going forward, in the eyes of their fellow-posters.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

All the more reason to be accountable for what you've said when the facts do come out.

Edit: I didn't mean anything about the credibility of the message board as a message board...it is what it is. I was talking about the credibility of individual posters going forward, in the eyes of their fellow-posters.

Looks like I misread "credibility on the message board" as "credibility of the message board," which changes what (I thought) you said significantly.

pup wrote:Still not sure why it took so long for him to decide he needed taped up and forced Bauserman to take a snap.

Ever have an injury that hurt a lot worse two (or 10...or 20) minutes after it happened than it did at the moment it happened? I have.

When (if) you played football, was it up to the player himself to decide when, or if, he would get treated by the trainer?...or whether or not he would sit out a play? Because that's often not the way it works in college football at this level.

(Since you double-posted this, I assumed you really wanted someone to respond.)

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

You guys should take a second between blowing each other to remember I think the kid is a punk-ass piece of shit whether he dies in surgery or whether everything turns out just okey-dokey for TPeezy2 or whatever the eff he calls himself and he wins a Heisman and Nat'l Championship. That's admittedly the basis of my initial comments and I stand by every word of it.

And mark these words that there'll be an official 'Apologize to Peeker' thread when said immature a-hole brings more investigators/sanctions/suspensions/vacated wins/etc down the road.

Yes, I get the immaturity and not holding it against a kid. But hey, that's Time to Grow Up knocking and you can answer the door any second now TPeezy.

Oh.....And no, 'blowing each other' isn't meant in the literal terms lest there be any confusion or sore feelings.

You guys should take a second between blowing each other to remember I think the kid is a punk-ass piece of shit whether he dies in surgery or whether everything turns out just okey-dokey for TPeezy2 or whatever the eff he calls himself. That's admittedly the basis of my initial comments and I stand by every word of it.

And mark these words that there'll be an official 'Apologize to Peeker' thread when said immature a-hole brings more investigators/sanctions/suspensions/vacated wins/etc down the road.

Oh.....And no, 'blowing each other' isn't meant in the literal terms lest there be any confusion or sore feelings.

You guys should take a second between blowing each other to remember I think the kid is a punk-ass piece of shit whether he dies in surgery or whether everything turns out just okey-dokey for TPeezy2 or whatever the eff he calls himself. That's admittedly the basis of my initial comments and I stand by every word of it.

And mark these words that there'll be an official 'Apologize to Peeker' thread when said immature a-hole brings more investigators/sanctions/suspensions/vacated wins/etc down the road.

Oh.....And no, 'blowing each other' isn't meant in the literal terms lest there be any confusion or sore feelings.

pup wrote:Still not sure why it took so long for him to decide he needed taped up and forced Bauserman to take a snap.

Ever have an injury that hurt a lot worse two (or 10...or 20) minutes after it happened than it did at the moment it happened? I have.

When (if) you played football, was it up to the player himself to decide when, or if, he would get treated by the trainer?...or whether or not he would sit out a play? Because that's often not the way it works in college football at this level.

(Since you double-posted this, I assumed you really wanted someone to respond.)

So you want me to believe, Tressel told him there is no time to get taped right now, waited 15 seconds and then told him go see the trainer?

Quit it. Please.

About injuries hurting more over time, again. Quit being a puss. If you can walk to the trainers table with NO help, jump up on it, you could have taken a snap and handed a ball off. Pryor limping is a larger threat for Arkansas to be concerned with than Bauserman. Of course, he might not be the "hero" he is today.

Probably no point in listing the injuries I (and a lot of folks that are probably on these boards) have played with. Especially in a moment like that. Shit, stayed in mens softball games with injuries as bad as this. For a bowl game? Better be a stretcher involved. Of course, I am not a me first prima donna.

You guys should take a second between blowing each other to remember I think the kid is a punk-ass piece of shit whether he dies in surgery or whether everything turns out just okey-dokey for TPeezy2 or whatever the eff he calls himself and he wins a Heisman and Nat'l Championship. That's admittedly the basis of my initial comments and I stand by every word of it.

And mark these words that there'll be an official 'Apologize to Peeker' thread when said immature a-hole brings more investigators/sanctions/suspensions/vacated wins/etc down the road.

Yes, I get the immaturity and not holding it against a kid. But hey, that's Time to Grow Up knocking and you can answer the door any second now TPeezy.

Oh.....And no, 'blowing each other' isn't meant in the literal terms lest there be any confusion or sore feelings.

But carry on with the circle jerk.

Now I'm done.....I hope.

So....I reread the thread quickly to try and identify the holier than thou circle jerk you are referring you and can't.

Can you point some of it out?

Last edited by JCoz on Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

pup wrote:Still not sure why it took so long for him to decide he needed taped up and forced Bauserman to take a snap.

Ever have an injury that hurt a lot worse two (or 10...or 20) minutes after it happened than it did at the moment it happened? I have.

When (if) you played football, was it up to the player himself to decide when, or if, he would get treated by the trainer?...or whether or not he would sit out a play? Because that's often not the way it works in college football at this level.

(Since you double-posted this, I assumed you really wanted someone to respond.)

So you want me to believe, Tressel told him there is no time to get taped right now, waited 15 seconds and then told him go see the trainer?

Quit it. Please.

About injuries hurting more over time, again. Quit being a puss. If you can walk to the trainers table with NO help, jump up on it, you could have taken a snap and handed a ball off. Pryor limping is a larger threat for Arkansas to be concerned with than Bauserman. Of course, he might not be the "hero" he is today.

Probably no point in listing the injuries I (and a lot of folks that are probably on these boards) have played with. Especially in a moment like that. Shit, stayed in mens softball games with injuries as bad as this. For a bowl game? Better be a stretcher involved. Of course, I am not a me first prima donna.

Is anyone actually calling Pryor a "hero"? Seriously, lots of exaggeration all over this deal....I haven't thought myself nor seen one single article painting him as some sort of Kirk Gibson or Willis Reed.

Beanie was alot more of a wuss/primadonna that Pryor ever will be when it comes to pain IMO.

But Beanie was a more likable guy.

I get the backlash as Pryor reminds alot of Ohioans a bit too much of THoA right now.

Course even THoA probably would have known which of his teammates made the game winning interception .

It is what it is, he isn't the first or last athlete that I don't identify with.

Doesn't necessarily warrant the irrationality you can see going on in some circles/conversations.

Allow me to apologize in advance to Peeker and Pup and JB and the rest of the Pryor-haters...because we all know Pryor will do something in the future they can point to as evidence that he remains a "punk-ass piece of shit". That will surely be a satisfying day for them.

(You call a college kid is a "punk-ass piece of shit"...and out of the other side of your mouth, criticize someone else for being sanctimonious? Got it.)

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

danwismar wrote:Allow me to apologize in advance to Peeker and Pup and JB and the rest of the Pryor-haters...because we all know Pryor will do something in the future they can point to as evidence that he remains an irredeemable douchebag. That will surely be a satisfying day for all of them.

Thank you. I accept your apology.

Now I'm completely finished with this thread.

Enjoy the weekend fellas.

PS- Does 'immaturity' end when a jail sentence begins? Or can that card still be played? Is there an actual drop dead age of maturity? Just wondering when 'Kids will be kids' stops and 'What a douchebag' begins so I don't have to say anything that will bring Buckeye Nation down upon me like the right hand of God.

danwismar wrote:Allow me to apologize in advance to Peeker and Pup and JB and the rest of the Pryor-haters...because we all know Pryor will do something in the future they can point to as evidence that he remains a "punk-ass piece of shit". That will surely be a satisfying day for them.

(You call a college kid is a "punk-ass piece of shit"...and out of the other side of your mouth, criticize someone else for being sanctimonious? Got it.)

Dang it. Quit editing while I'm responding.

Yeah, 'Punk-ass piece of shit' is too strong where a college kid is concerned. I blame it on the drugs and the past week in general. Frustrating. Drop the 'Piece of Shit' part. You are correct.

But at some point, and apparently you know better than I when that is, a kid needs to mature. He's had multiple opportunities to do and as the face of the program should have enough self awareness to do so.

But he hasn't. Still. At least not that I've seen (and that includes his priorities and his 'show' Tuesday night). And I stand by the statement he will bring more drama/shame whatever.

Lastly, I believe those who steadfastly refuse to require accountability from a kid who's been entitled and spoon fed his entire athletic career feed into the reasons that keep him from actually maturing and becoming accountable. Why should he? People protect and shield him from it with 'kids will be kids', 'immaturity', 'judge not...'

Just how I feel about it Dan. I expect more from a young man who's been handed all he's been handed. Sorry if that upsets you.

And yeah, I can get loose in the corners with my words describing it. Doesn't change the bottom line feeling on the matter.

Just wanted everyone to know, that while Pryor was unable to answer the bell for that snap, I once played a regular season coed volleyball match with a bloody sock. Hell, people were ready to award Schilling the purple heart for that same thing.

And I said MATCH, not GAME.

People aren't arbitrarilly jumping on Pryor over this. Simply a reaction to how the guy has carried himself. Everyone rolled their eyes at Pryor just like they did when LBJ got his head band bumpied off.

I stand by my statements in the other thread. Pryor was hurt but to the point that he needed the hman crutches after the game. I recall him standing on the podium w/o the assistance of said crutches and leaning back with arms raised to the sky. If he was as hurt that he needed help, it would be difficult to maintain your balance if you were hurt as bad as he made it out to be. I won't go as far as calling him Paul Pierce in the '08 Finals. I just think injury+ great performance= on camera apology that Buckeye fans would accept and forget the pawning of articles for coin. As I also said, Jack Youngblood played the entire '79 playoffs on a broken leg. I never recall him being assisted walking off the field.

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

leadpipe wrote:Just wanted everyone to know, that while Pryor was unable to answer the bell for that snap, I once played a regular season coed volleyball match with a bloody sock. Hell, people were ready to award Schilling the purple heart for that same thing.

And I said MATCH, not GAME.

People aren't arbitrarilly jumping on Pryor over this. Simply a reaction to how the guy has carried himself. Everyone rolled their eyes at Pryor just like they did when LBJ got his head band bumpied off.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If Cam Heyward had gone this route I'd have had a different reaction than Pryor taking it for sure. Past history affects future performance and all that.

Athletes always grow up and out of their entitlement stages into productive human beings. Look at the NBA. Just let him be. We owe it to him to wait for it because he plays ball at the school we root for.

Just didn't realize it was mandatory to like him.

I could come to your party if I wanted. Even if you don't invite me I could show up. And dollars to donuts that if I bring a bottle of Wild Turkey I'd be allowed to stay.

I just want you to know that I think Peeker is a douchebag and probably got his brains scrambled a bit last weekend. Personally, I think TP is an awesome dude. People should just leave him alone. He's suffered enough.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:And no, Peek, there will not be "bobbing for TPeezy's knob", or whatever dumb joke you were thinking of. (Acutally on second thought, that's a pretty good joke).

Yes, that is actually a very good joke.

Oh wait, you didn't think...no...did you think I said all of those things just to get invited to your bouncy castle birthday party? No. Honestly, it never crossed my mind. Really. But if I were to be invited, I have a case of Zima in my trunk as we speak.