There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Old Man Winter:exick: Book 3 is by far the most kickass of the series, so this shocks me not.

What he said.

Seriously? Huh. Book 3 is where I stopped reading the series since it started to pull a Wheel of Time. "We've had two books to create a large group of primary characters, but for this book we're going to focus on this whole other group of secondary characters! Woohoo!" Sure, it was well written and had some great scenes, but I dropped the WoT for the same reason - book after book where new character after new character is introduced while old characters and main characters were pushed aside. Also didn't help that there was a what, 5 year lag between books 3 and 4? Has book 5 come out yet? *does a quick Wiki search, finds that yes indeed book 5 came out... 6 years after book 4.*

/Once the series is done, I'll pick it up again and read it start to finish.

Because of all ya'lls over-enthusiastic gushing over book three in a thread last week, I read book three this weekend and I'm glad I did. I got a good feel for his writing style and was able to pretty much pick up where season two left off. Oddly enough, afterwards I didn't really feel compelled to continue and was just as happy reading plot summaries on wiki for 4 and 5.

big_pth:There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

big_pth:There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Looks like TRW is going to be episode nine actually, according to the episode titles.

Given that 1-9 was Ned getting whacked and 2-9 was Blackwater, this makes sense.

Techhell:Old Man Winter: exick: Book 3 is by far the most kickass of the series, so this shocks me not.

What he said.

Seriously? Huh. Book 3 is where I stopped reading the series since it started to pull a Wheel of Time. "We've had two books to create a large group of primary characters, but for this book we're going to focus on this whole other group of secondary characters! Woohoo!" Sure, it was well written and had some great scenes, but I dropped the WoT for the same reason - book after book where new character after new character is introduced while old characters and main characters were pushed aside. Also didn't help that there was a what, 5 year lag between books 3 and 4? Has book 5 come out yet? *does a quick Wiki search, finds that yes indeed book 5 came out... 6 years after book 4.*

/Once the series is done, I'll pick it up again and read it start to finish.

For WOT, pick it back up at Book 11 (though continue to skip Egwene). 11's where a whole bunch of plot points get resolved, and then 12 and 13 build up to 14.

Techhell:Old Man Winter: exick: Book 3 is by far the most kickass of the series, so this shocks me not.

What he said.

Seriously? Huh. Book 3 is where I stopped reading the series since it started to pull a Wheel of Time. "We've had two books to create a large group of primary characters, but for this book we're going to focus on this whole other group of secondary characters! Woohoo!" Sure, it was well written and had some great scenes, but I dropped the WoT for the same reason - book after book where new character after new character is introduced while old characters and main characters were pushed aside. Also didn't help that there was a what, 5 year lag between books 3 and 4? Has book 5 come out yet? *does a quick Wiki search, finds that yes indeed book 5 came out... 6 years after book 4.*

/Once the series is done, I'll pick it up again and read it start to finish.

Are you sure you're not talking about book 4? From what I remember book 3 focused on the already established primary characters for the most part.

God Is My Co-Pirate:big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Given that there are a lot of people who haven't read the book, I'm calling for "hints only." Bolded is perfect. Those who have read the books know exactly what he's talking about, those who wanting to be spoiled can Google, and those who haven't are still clueless.

Echidnaguy:big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Looks like TRW is going to be episode nine actually, according to the episode titles.

Given that 1-9 was Ned getting whacked and 2-9 was Blackwater, this makes sense.

Zarquon's Flat Tire:meyerkev: For WOT, pick it back up at Book 11 (though continue to skip Elayne and Nyneave and Perrin until 13 (and even then, he's iffy)). 11's where a whole bunch of plot points get resolved, and then 12 and 13 build up to 14.

Techhell:Old Man Winter: exick: Book 3 is by far the most kickass of the series, so this shocks me not.

What he said.

Seriously? Huh. Book 3 is where I stopped reading the series since it started to pull a Wheel of Time. "We've had two books to create a large group of primary characters, but for this book we're going to focus on this whole other group of secondary characters! Woohoo!" Sure, it was well written and had some great scenes, but I dropped the WoT for the same reason - book after book where new character after new character is introduced while old characters and main characters were pushed aside. Also didn't help that there was a what, 5 year lag between books 3 and 4? Has book 5 come out yet? *does a quick Wiki search, finds that yes indeed book 5 came out... 6 years after book 4.*

/Once the series is done, I'll pick it up again and read it start to finish.

Then you should read the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. 10 excellent books(same size as WoT or ASoIaF) in about a decade. Series done, complete.

Techhell:Old Man Winter: exick: Book 3 is by far the most kickass of the series, so this shocks me not.

What he said.

Seriously? Huh. Book 3 is where I stopped reading the series since it started to pull a Wheel of Time. "We've had two books to create a large group of primary characters, but for this book we're going to focus on this whole other group of secondary characters! Woohoo!" Sure, it was well written and had some great scenes, but I dropped the WoT for the same reason - book after book where new character after new character is introduced while old characters and main characters were pushed aside. Also didn't help that there was a what, 5 year lag between books 3 and 4? Has book 5 come out yet? *does a quick Wiki search, finds that yes indeed book 5 came out... 6 years after book 4.*

/Once the series is done, I'll pick it up again and read it start to finish.

Martin regularly writes himself into corners and then struggles to figure out what to do with the characters that are languishing. It's a lot easier to simply create new characters and storylines.

meyerkev:God Is My Co-Pirate: big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Given that there are a lot of people who haven't read the book, I'm calling for "hints only." Bolded is perfect. Those who have read the books know exactly what he's talking about, those who wanting to be spoiled can Google, and those who haven't are still clueless.

fark off.

I'm not waiting 20 years for Captain 'buggered deadline' to finish his series so I can talk about it in a thread on the internet. The books have been out for years and years yet some how its ok for Mr. neckbeard butt farker to wander into a thread and biatch that i spoiled it?

If you havent read game of thrones yet and you don't want it to be spoiled and you are reading a game of thrones thread on the internet at this moment just go mangle your genitals with power tools now. Nobody needs people like you in the world. Honest to god anyone wandering in here while still wanting the surprise that comes with first time reading i suggest you go have an enema of molten lead. Do it now.

Echidnaguy:big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Looks like TRW is going to be episode nine actually, according to the episode titles.

Given that 1-9 was Ned getting whacked and 2-9 was Blackwater, this makes sense.

TRW will blow people's minds if they haven't read the books. I was shocked.

The book doesn't goes into how Robb and Jeyne met, except in recollection. He just suddenly shows up with her like she was war booty or something. I think the writers made a call that this made Robb look impulsive, selfish and unsympathetic, which is what they don't want given what happens to him shortly afterwards.

mikefinch:meyerkev: God Is My Co-Pirate: big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Given that there are a lot of people who haven't read the book, I'm calling for "hints only." Bolded is perfect. Those who have read the books know exactly what he's talking about, those who wanting to be spoiled can Google, and those who haven't are still clueless.

fark off.

I'm not waiting 20 years for Captain 'buggered deadline' to finish his series so I can talk about it in a thread on the internet. The books have been out for years and years yet some how its ok for Mr. neckbeard butt farker to wander into a thread and biatch that i spoiled it?

If you havent read game of thrones yet and you don't want it to be spoiled and you are reading a game of thrones thread on the internet at this moment just go mangle your genitals with power tools now. Nobody needs people like you in the world. Honest to god anyone wandering in here while still wanting the surprise that comes with first time reading i suggest you go have an enema of molten lead. Do it now.

Is this the season Jon Snow knows something? Cause I'm down for that. I read all these books as one big novel on my kindle so I have no idea what is in which book. All I know is for about 100 pages Jon Snow has a really awesome road trip with his young eager redhead traveling companion. I would mind see some of that in HD.

Jon Snow is one of the few people that has some actual happiness in GoT. It's not longed lived and doesn't end well, but for a few hundred pages life doesn't suck.

I'm looking forward to and dreading this season at the same time. TRW nearly made me stop reading the series completely, I was just so devastated. But then, of course, the wedding after that made up for everything. I've read that part many, many times now.

God Is My Co-Pirate:Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Here's my personal spoiler guide:

Threads about the Show: No spoilers about stuff that hasn't aired yet. Once it's aired, discuss. Optional: spoiler warning for the first week or so. I even try to avoid saying stuff like "Can't Wait till X fights Y!" since it tells people that X and Y are not in danger, at least until they meet.

The book doesn't goes into how Robb and Jeyne met, except in recollection. He just suddenly shows up with her like she was war booty or something. I think the writers made a call that this made Robb look impulsive, selfish and unsympathetic, which is what they don't want given what happens to him shortly afterwards.

I still think they could have written it better. Robb married Jeyne to protect her honor, something in line with his character. The change in the tv series makes it seem like he was just some young horny kid who let his dick do all the talking. And it ultimately underscores Tywin's role in all of it unless they still tie that together.

My other issues with season 2 were the underscoring of Tyrion's role in he battle, Catlyn letting Jamie go for no reason, and Arya's role in her escape reduced.

mikefinch:meyerkev: God Is My Co-Pirate: big_pth: There are several scenes parts of ASOS that SHOULD be jaw dropping. The Plaza of Pride. The duel between a dog and a lightning lord, the duel between a stubborn wench and a man in chains, the snake vaulting the mountain. the king of giants in a tunnel of ice. And of course, what should be the final scene of season 4.

Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Given that there are a lot of people who haven't read the book, I'm calling for "hints only." Bolded is perfect. Those who have read the books know exactly what he's talking about, those who wanting to be spoiled can Google, and those who haven't are still clueless.

fark off.

I'm not waiting 20 years for Captain 'buggered deadline' to finish his series so I can talk about it in a thread on the internet. The books have been out for years and years yet some how its ok for Mr. neckbeard butt farker to wander into a thread and biatch that i spoiled it?

If you havent read game of thrones yet and you don't want it to be spoiled and you are reading a game of thrones thread on the internet at this moment just go mangle your genitals with power tools now. Nobody needs people like you in the world. Honest to god anyone wandering in here while still wanting the surprise that comes with first time reading i suggest you go have an enema of molten lead. Do it now.

Here's the rub - this thread is about GoT the TV series, not GoT the book series. Therefore things from the books that would spoil the TV series should be left out of discussion. Go start a thread about the books if you want to spoil other stuff.

The Stealth Hippopotamus:Is this the season Jon Snow knows something? Cause I'm down for that. I read all these books as one big novel on my kindle so I have no idea what is in which book. All I know is for about 100 pages Jon Snow has a really awesome road trip with his young eager redhead traveling companion. I would mind see some of that in HD.

Jon Snow is one of the few people that has some actual happiness in GoT. It's not longed lived and doesn't end well, but for a few hundred pages life doesn't suck.

After finishing all the current books, I imagine that something like this went through George RR Martin's head:

"Jon loves Ygritte and so he might have been truly happy. Not one couple in a century has that chance, no matter what the story books say. And so I think no man in a century will suffer as greatly as he will."

jocutus:God Is My Co-Pirate: Can we get a ruling on spoilers since the book has been out for, what, 12 years now? I guess better safe than sorry. I'm looking forward to the black amethysts and pigeon pie myself. Don't know if that'll be in this season.

Here's my personal spoiler guide:

Threads about the Show: No spoilers about stuff that hasn't aired yet. Once it's aired, discuss. Optional: spoiler warning for the first week or so. I even try to avoid saying stuff like "Can't Wait till X fights Y!" since it tells people that X and Y are not in danger, at least until they meet.

Threads about the Books: Anything goes.

It's common courtesy.

I already saw the first episode of Season 3 at a special event put on by HBO. Free screening, free food, and free iPhone cases w/ the standards of all the main houses.

The few spoilers I'll give: The first episode isn't that exciting. It's basically everyone waking up and trying to recover from the finale.