Unlike the usual ones by a bum, this one is by one of the best trainers in the world. Eddie Futch taught him that **** so that's good too. People should remember it is good to learn about these moves even if you do not think they will fit in with your style!

yea... when you do a fade or roll in an orthodox stance, you are in better position to throw a right then a left. a fade or roll coming out of a high-low defense (right hand up, left hand down) is almost like slipping right. you don't throw left hooks after you slip right...

i mean roy jones could do it in his prime because he was so fast that he could open up his left hook without consequence. for ordinary humans it isn't advisable.

you could come back with a left hook after that uppercut though

slickwalt210

11-16-2008, 06:03 PM

these are pro moves, not for amateurs without a lot of experience. in order to perfect this move you must sit in the "pocket" which as freddie stated is dangerous and very few fighters can do that. james toney and floyd mayweather perfected that move, but they would fire the right hand to the head. you have to have great upper body movement to sit in the pocket and do moves like that, it's not for every one....

ironmike2008

11-16-2008, 06:16 PM

nice, ill have a look later.

there is another guy on utube, a trainer, who did an excellent tutorial on how to execute the left hook. since i followed that my left hook is much harder and technically better.

this is the guy

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6ed7-_VSQHI

what u think/know of him chavez?

Smokin'J

11-16-2008, 06:24 PM

yea... when you do a fade or roll in an orthodox stance, you are in better position to throw a right then a left. a fade or roll coming out of a high-low defense (right hand up, left hand down) is almost like slipping right. you don't throw left hooks after you slip right...

i mean roy jones could do it in his prime because he was so fast that he could open up his left hook without consequence. for ordinary humans it isn't advisable.

you could come back with a left hook after that uppercut though

http://pimpandhost.com/media/simple/22438/9778f1d15f09.gif

peewee1460

11-16-2008, 06:45 PM

when i say replace the uppercut with a left hook, i mean throw a left hook to the body as you roll the punch. because the way freddie says to catch that punch would carry a left hook through its natural pattern

JulioCesaChavez

11-16-2008, 06:52 PM

nice, ill have a look later.

there is another guy on utube, a trainer, who did an excellent tutorial on how to execute the left hook. since i followed that my left hook is much harder and technically better.

this is the guy

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6ed7-_VSQHI

what u think/know of him chavez?Not seen much of that guy or heard of him, but that channel does have lots of useful instructional clips by other trainers. they are good for increasing knowledge, but nothing replaces a top trainer at the end of the day. From what I seen of that guy he talks sense but at the end of the day you need someone who can coach to look at your mistakes fromthe outside and tell you what to do.

TRANSWARP

11-16-2008, 06:55 PM

I used to watch tuts, but when I joined a boxing gym, the trainer made me do things differently.

What ido

JulioCesaChavez

11-16-2008, 07:24 PM

Listen to your coach if you rate him (if not find a new one) and learn about toher styles and techniques on top. If there is anything you like, a good coach would not mind you adding it if it works for ya. Even stuff you cannot add to your style needs to be learned because you must know your enemy!

Equilibrium

11-16-2008, 07:58 PM

I posted the link to that youtube channel recently, really good stuff in there. Most of it is pretty basic but you never know what you might learn.

JulioCesaChavez

11-18-2008, 10:17 PM

Alot of it is basic, but it will be handy for people who keep posting on here about not being able to go to a gym. I still think they should move to a town and not cry about a lack of ameneities in middel of nowhere, or deal with the fact that they will probably have to marry a sheep. No gyal, no gym and no clubs. What the **** do people do so far out in the country? I would never live anywhere in rural America. Other countries they can get to a city in 20-30 mins.

ironmike2008

11-19-2008, 11:54 AM

That Roach video is pretty sick. I pulled it off in sparring and felt pretty damn good. Suckered him in like a biatch.

ironmike2008

11-19-2008, 11:55 AM

Alot of it is basic, but it will be handy for people who keep posting on here about not being able to go to a gym. I still think they should move to a town and not cry about a lack of ameneities in middel of nowhere, or deal with the fact that they will probably have to marry a sheep. No gyal, no gym and no clubs. What the **** do people do so far out in the country? I would never live anywhere in rural America. Other countries they can get to a city in 20-30 mins.

LMfaooooooooooooo

JulioCesaChavez

11-19-2008, 08:08 PM

LMfaooooooooooooo
You know what i mean! them tools are alwyas coming on here making new threads about how they can train in a barn full of sheep.That Roach video is pretty sick. I pulled it off in sparring and felt pretty damn good. Suckered him in like a biatch.

yep, it works like a treat everytime in the gym. Most people have no idea what they are doing. Try this one too if they throw a jab first instead when you put your left hand down:

Slip the jab so you go to their left/your right. Side step if necessary and throw a straight right or right hook to their rib cage depending on your distance.

That one works a treat too Vs most bums. You can also do it by using a parry and throwing the right hand straight from there but I don't like to do that because even if you do it fast you can't really throw a full force right hand. It's not possible to take the punch through it's full trajectory unless of course you **** your right hand back which will waste time!

Trainers who preach it think they are clever but I don't think they are. It's much better and more natural to use the slip and right hand, and also if you make them miss punches it will sap their energy more. When I use a parry, I hit back with a jab or left hook.

JulioCesaChavez

11-19-2008, 08:16 PM

Here is another one by the Roachman. Goes through fundamentals of the stance and gives more info and more educated views than other tutorial vids. The chunky bird is inquisitive and she helps out too! She is fugly. I would

I thought she had very womanly bits for a beast. There is something about this fugly bird that is giving me an erection. She is ****ing naasty!
Look at her bunnies staying firm when she lifts her arms:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=63nDNWJAPc0

ironmike2008

11-20-2008, 09:13 AM

Here is another one by the Roachman. Goes through fundamentals of the stance and gives more info and more educated views than other tutorial vids. The chunky bird is inquisitive and she helps out too! She is fugly. I would

hahah i would probably shag her too in all honesty. but these roach videos are good, at least I know the info he is giving is all good an useful.

ironmike2008

11-20-2008, 09:37 AM

actually that ***** is ****in hideous lol

anonymousboxing

11-20-2008, 10:05 AM

Unlike the usual ones by a bum, this one is by one of the best trainers in the world. Eddie Futch taught him that **** so that's good too. People should remember it is good to learn about these moves even if you do not think they will fit in with your style!

julio,
Does freddy Roach sell this stuff on dvd or is it something you can only find on you tube?

actually that ***** is ****in hideous lolAbsolutely ****ing disgusting but I don't know why for some reason I think i probably would. She probably hasn't had it for years and would be ideal for a bit of charity work.

julio,
Does freddy Roach sell this stuff on dvd or is it something you can only find on you tube?

No idea. It doesn't look like something he's done for DVD as it is very informal. Roach does not seem that type of guty, and he's kinda too big fish for it. Plus he did say something at somepoint about helping people out, unless you;re gonna beat his guys arse down!

I think it would be muich better to learn under tuteledge of a good coach, with youtube vids as a supplement. You can only learn so much from tapes, and it's funny how you understand it better after you have been coached! Also, a trainer can see where you are not doing the things that you should and can correct you more efficiently than you would do by yourself. These video's are a good substitute for all these guys who keep posting I live in a barn 50 miles away from town. Everyone else should get to the gym IMO