Our Captain Stays…So Lets Get Behind Him!!

Lets face it, no matter what our thoughts were about Cesc throughout this whole saga-whether they were good or bad, there’s not one Arsenal fan I don’t know who isn’t relieved to hear Cesc is staying..

He’s one of the worlds best players, he’s only just entering his prime years and he’s our captain.. Arsenal need to keep their best players not sell them and we’ve managed to do it. Cesc is a valuable part of our future and even with the pull of Barca hes remained an Arsenal player. It’s a victory in its own right..

His statement wasnt exactly music to my ears but at least it was very honest and he just told us what we all know already. A lot of us may be still mad with Cesc for whats happened over the summer, but he wears the Arsenal shirt once again this season and if we want to challenge for the title we need our captain to perform, an unhappy Cesc is no good to our chances so we have to support him..

Wenger proved this summer he had Barca by the balls and it looks like that wont change until either;

A… Barca offer a ridiculous amount (which they wont because they are skint)

OR

B… if the Arsenal fans turn against him making him request a transfer and force Wenger’s hand..

If we are all honest none of us want Cesc to leave, so lets show him..He says he respects the Arsenal fans. He respects us because we adore him, lets not change that. Don’t let the media get into your minds, they will now use this to try destabilise us and turn us against him, but we can’t let that happen..

Cesc may even want to stay if we start to win some trophies and lets face facts, if we want to win something we need Cesc..

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good post jj. he is here for now, so let us just see how this shakes out. i think just about all of us are disappointed with some aspects of that statement, but it is what it is – a response to arsene’s call for cesc “clarify”. he has committed for this season only, so let’s now focus on the actual season and worry about the off-season when it happens.

hiya jj. what do you think? a rather underwhelming end to a frustrating summer? at least he did not try and pretend he wants to be here long term. this allows us to at least move on for new and concentrate on the season – i am with arsene on this one – i do not think cesc will be a problem, i think he will be able to put everything to the side and worry about barca after this season.

i agree, jj. i am sure that barcelona will come in for him again, and cesc may well want to transfer. whatever happens, i want it to be on terms acceptable to arsenal fc. i think we stood up for ourselves well this summer so hopefully fc barcelona – and any other “big” club for that matter – got the message that we won’t sell our most prized assets just because someone is batting eyelids at them. i’ll worry about that in may. for now, it is on to august 15th at anfield.

I don’t feel as though we owe him anything,Arsene wont be around for another season after this one so it doesn’t matter to him weather Fabregas leaves or not next season anyway, perhaps they will both end up in Barcelona together.

He has 5 years left on his contract and if he puts in another good season again, his valuation will skyrocket (which is all the more reason why we need trophies this year). If he wins silverware, his value will skyrocket beyond the means of Farcelona, who are near bankrupt anyway.
Cheer him on this year, it won’t necessarily be his last 😀

I think we should try to understand why he want to leave? Just look at what going on With Arsenal football wise, Time and time again we are getting weaker with players sold and never replaced.

Right we need one more striker, CB, Goalie, DM and the list go on and on. Yet with all these going on at end of every season Wenger come out and promises to sort out defensive problem. Yet we are now almost few three weeks away for transfer window to shut guess what nothing.

It almost impossible for Arsenal to sign any player in short notice, So guys it over we are goner drop more points and for first time drop out of top four. The good news is Wenger would be fired at the end of it.

I hate these man so much that I am seriously thinking of jumping ship to support another team. At least all these waiting for them to do something would disappear. But I am hoping we blow very early and he sent packing back screaming to France. Au Revoir senile old man.

I fully understand why Cesc saw no future or hope with Arsenal. It simple and it their for all to see. Cheers

I dont like Fabregas, but i will get behind him as long as he’s wearing an Arsenal jersey. And I know he is important to the team. Just hope that he can really do what he’s promised: concentrate + give 100% to Arsenal

for me personally,i think CESC,is playing a game that only him will live to regret.
there is only so much a man can take when pushed against the wall.a lot of people are happy likewise myself but am not sure anymore how i feel about the whole cesc issue.
cesc statement wasn’t the best of statements ,it is like he was forced to stay but i have one message for cesc…
YOU CANNOT BREAK THE HANDS THAT HAVE FED YOU FOR THE PAST 7YRS.
True we have not won a trophy,cos wenger instead of buying ready made palyers ,he stuck with you and your fellows ..personally i wish wenger will stop signing spanish players ,they will never be loyal or trust worhty.i have lost my respect for cesc and his camp,even though my thoughts don’t matter but it is what it is.
saying who wouldn’t want to join barca,..that is the most pathetic statement i have ever read,..
adebayor,flamini,hleb,etc,,,,now cesc …
wenger when will all these stop,we have been ridiculed,ys we have now some rubbish statment of his half pint commitment.
forgive me gooners ,but i will never respect cesc or feel the same like before…and I HOPE HE GOES.
OR SHOULD I SAY I HOPE BARCA FIND OR BORROW MORE MONEY TO BUY HIM…WE DON’T NEED PLAYERS WHO THINK THEY ARE MORE INTELIGENT THAN WNEGER OR CLUB.
You can fool everyone cesc but not me.i used to have a cesc jersey but it is already burnt.IT IS EITHER YOU ARE A GOONER OR YOU ARE NOT.NO MAYBE’S.

Good post. Where have you & Rico been for the last few days? Missed you 🙂

Yes, we’ve got to get behind Cesc now he’s been let down by his ‘compatriots’. He just loves football so will do his best for us as he said.

Yes, he would rather be back in Spain & who could really blame him. Here, AW has let him down by not bringing in the quality/passion/commitment that we need to push on & WIN major honours. IMHO he has been extremely patient awaiting these recruits but has been so dejected by the game when he broke his leg yet others were just ‘collecting their paycheck’.

In the circumstances all we can do is back him in his dilemma & continue barracking AW to give him the support & defense (GK especially included) that he deserves & we all know has been needed for a few seasons now!

Cesc is a great player, no question about that, he is staying for another year or probably more, good for arsenal, but what is not good for arsenal is if we retain him as captain he does not deserve such a honour and we will be sending the wrong message to Cesc and the other players, we will make better players than him and Arsenal will still be here after he is long gone
I had already formed a new team without Cesc and i am sure many others have done so to.
Right now the emphasis should be on finding a defender or two and that is getting much harder with everyone starting to get cup tied

good article.
1.the team is built around cesc, so obviously, him leaving wud have been terrible, in the sense that we wud have lost the focal point of our team.
2.we now know how bad he wants to leave. now wenger will prepare the team for the a future without cesc.
3.fabregas is worth a minimum of 50 mil. so y shud we sell for any less? we’ll sell when the price is met.
4.cesc is not to be blamed. he has solid reasons for wanting to leave. he has been reasonable in the sense that he did not force a transfer request. he’s still very respectful of arsenal, wenger and the fans.
so, let’s just hope cesc brings his best, hope that we buy that fucking goalkeeper and CB that we need so desperately.

Hola! Good one, JJ. I read Cesc’s (Yay, I can refer to him by name again! No more “YKW”!) full statement, and almost took offense at his reference to “their decision”, almost as if to say, “If left up to me, I would be in Camp Nou.”, but realized that we shouldn’t cavil over trifles, because he is, after all, staying.

@7masters,
“I’m seriously considering jumping ship to support another team.” What a truly legendary comment!
A lot of you need to go back to school and learn to write English properly. You’re a disgrace to Arsenal and English people.

Cesc is not bigger than the club, we are THE ARSENAL for f**k sake!!! Never used that sort of language on here before, that how p***d off i am with the whole saga. So now Cesc is doing us a favour? Give me a break!

i understand your pointbut wheres he going to go…barca are skint and even admtted they offered no more then 30mil for him.barca are the only team we are going to lose him to but to lose him for 30mil would be criminal..

id rather keep him, support him and see where it goes..

he wants the transfer, the same as ronaldo wanted his transfer, but fergie made him stay and got full whack in the end..im afraid barca will have to do the same because 30mil is an insult for a player of cescs calibre

thing is this geezer was given a whopping pay rise, back dated for 2 years and on a long term contract no one forced him to sign. And now every player would like to play for Barcelona after he has pocketed to money. He is Socio, his grand father is a member, blah, blah, blah…
He has shown us no respect and no loyalty.

I will continue to support any player that puts on the shirt but man, Cesc irks me right now!

Barcelona who are widely regarded as currently the best team on the planet in both footballing terms and the likelihood to win games. To play with the friends he grew up with. Who over the last few years have decorated their trophy cabinets with the medals all footballers dream of (forget medals actually, let’s go with occassions). To play for the club he supported as a boy. To play for the club his father supported as a boy. To live and perform on the highest stage in the surroundings of his beautiful home town. To live and work amongst the family he left behind to become the player he is.

It’s a catch 22. I’ve never wanted players at our club that didn’t want to be there but at the same time we need him to keep alive our very slim hopes of winning something. His statement is ominous but then again Gerrard was a hairs breadth from leaving the scousers but changed his mind. Only Wenger investing in a new keeper and center half that are fit for purpose and then winning something will perhaps change Cesc’s mind.

I propose that Arsenal fans World wide post letters once a week for the next four weeks to UEFA & FIFA complaining about Barcelona FC’s ‘tapping up’ of Cesc Fabregas. Also post a letter just once to Arsenal FC requesting that they formally complain to UEFA & FIFA. I have drawn up 3 template letters that I will email to willing participants. All you need to do is type in your own Name & Address before printing off & posting. Momentum will be boosted by you forwarding the email to every one of your Arsenal FC fan family & friends, encouraging them to participate.
Please see …. http://www.goonerettesonline.co.uk/452/other/an-overview-of-the-cesc-saga-time-for-the-fans-to-bite-back/#more-452
The aim of repetitive letters is to create an Admin headache for UEFA & FIFA with thousands of letters received from all over the world & display the strength of feeling from Arsenal FC fans. The purpose of the single letter to Arsenal FC is again to display the strength of feeling from us fans.
My email address for this campaign from where I will email you the letter templates is …….. ArsenalFansHateBarcelonaFC@gmail.com

There are some unrealistic, even borderline moronic, supporters at Arsenal. We have more box to box midfielders than any team in the world. What we don’t have are defensive sitters and/or cloggers. We want to out football Barca not out clog Inter. We are still young and learning to keep shape when defending is the last skill to learn. Keep watching moaners-all will be revealed!

I agree with JJ now that Cesc is here we should get behind him, no matter how we feel. I have always said that he should not be captain after the summer saga, but Wenger and players are happy to keep him on so I guess thats the end of it.

@RA, yep I think that goes back to JJ’s point that we should’nt do anything that would make a bad situation worse, and taking away the armband could do just thata, we can’t expect everyone to take losing the armband as well as Gallas did!!!!

alright, thanks. yanks and sox this weekend, always a big one. boston has to try and haul themselves back in this – they won last night, but need to win at least two this weekend. goes from bad to worse for the mets – another late lead blown, another ugly loss. they are now under .500 (54-55 on the season) for the first time since may. continuing on their descent down the long slope they have been on the past month.

ra, mets still have not recovered from adam wainwright’s 0-2 curveball to carlos beltran in game seven of the 2006 national league championship series. that pitch ended their season, where a hit would probably have put them in the world series – a series they would have had a good chance of winning. several core players were on the field that day and the franchise itself has still not recovered.

they are definitely playing with a defeatist “here we go again” outlook right now – most are trying too hard and making bad decisions in the field and at the plate. by the time the team snaps out of it and starts winning again, it will be too late and they will be out of contention. jerry will take the fall and be sacked at the end of the season, but nothing will change as long as the wilpons own the team.

perhaps it is odd how i can be so optimistic about the arsenal, yet so doom and gloom about my hometown baseball team, but it is there for all to see.

ra, tb is an excellent young team. they have great pitching, exciting young players. they are really giving the yanks a run in the al east – most thought it would be the yanks and boston this year, but the sox have really fallen away. tampa has a team that can win the world series this year – not saying that will happen, they still have to get through the yanks, but they have the players to win.

hiya jj. ra, when they are pitching, hitting and fielding, they play well and generally win. but when things grown wrong, it mushrooms on them, as you imply. jerry is hugely unpopular with most mets fans, i have no problem with him – he is a good guy in a difficult spot (kept around to deflect criticism from the wilpons and eventually take the fall for this season). he make plenty of head-scratching decisions from the dugout, but no manager is infallible. jerry is also a bit like arsene in that he protects the players, sometimes too much. sometimes players deserve to be thrown under the bus – david wright deserved it for going 0-16 from the cleanup spot in atlanta earlier this week, parnell and feliciano deserved it for allowing the first seven philadelphia hitters to reach base in the eighth inning while trying to protect a 2-1 lead. jerry will be gone at the end of the season, omar will stay on and jeff wilpon will make all the decisions – in other words nothing will change.

jj, i grew up as a baseball fan, a big mets fan growing up in the bronx (yankee territory). other than arsenal, who i developed an affinity for while living in peterboro in the mid-90s, i support new york teams: giants football, knicks basketball, rangers hockey and of course mets baseball. i’ll always be a new yorker, no matter where i currently reside.

ra, i think it is necessary sometimes. i think arsene – just like jerry manuel – lets players get too comfortable. i am not a denilson hater – not a huge fan, but not a hater either – but he should have been thrown under the bus for the 1-3 versus man united. just an example, but i think are several instances where arsenal players could have been called out for mistakes. i am not saying arsene should make this a habit – he will run the risk of losing the players – but i believe there are instances where public accountability has it’s benefits. specifically where contstant support and encouragement fail to alter a negative pattern of play or behaviour.

As I say, I have been on two or three other sites lately, one of them Arsenal Arsenal which is v. good. I am currently switching back and forwards with another site as we speak, but it’s not quite the same as the daily dose of AR/Rico.

Call her and tell her to move her arse, we are all suffering withdrawal symptoms! 🙂

I have seen some of your evening posts, and seen my friend Oliver chatting to you, but if I am awake between 11 p.m. to 2 a.m. I have been out boozing. Luckily I have managed not to comment in that state! 🙂

ra, i think a little balance for arsene will go a long way. constant shielding of players gives the impression – rightly or wrongly – that there is no accountability. when players not doing the business continue to keep there first team places, that only fuels the no accountability perception. if arsene wants to make these players men, they need to face the music when required – when tv loses his man because he is too far upfield and an opposition goal results, he needs to take responsbility for that snd answer questions about it.

i love arsene, but a lot of things about him frustrate me – this is probably the biggest proverbial “bee in my bonnet” regarding him. the whole world sees a certain vassiriki “abou” diaby sleepwalk through entire games in centre midfield, yet arsene either blithely glosses over it or does not mention it. if we want diaby to become the player he should be, consistently dominant and focused, then put him up to face the music. if you treat your players like babies, guess how they will play?

jj baseball is still officially “america’s pastime”. make no mistake, nfl football is far and away the biggest show in town here. the next nfl season kicks off in just over a month and training camp is already dominating the airwaves. if you live in a city where the baseball and (real) football teams are medicore – like i do with the nationals and dc united here in washington – then talk invetiably turns to the redskins, even though they are still in training camp. i truly live in enemy country, as the redskins and my ny giants are bitter rivals. go big blue!

Oliver I agree 100% as has been mentioned over and over fans will never get on the back of a player who gives 100% regardless of ability, its the players who turn in lackluster performances week after week who get the ire of the fans, the comparison of the fans reactions to the Cesc transfer and the Greedybayor one is a case in point.

I think your point is also illustrated by the fact that our players continually acknowledging their mistakes time after time and promising to fix it but continue to make those very same miistakes, no one is holding them accountable thats why they can repeat them with impunity.

ra, see on the giants blogs once the season starts. i will probably be on big blue view for most of the time.

jj, montana and rice were one of kind, two of the greatest ever at their respective positions. niners success was also due to great players at other positions: ronnie lott (safety), john taylor (second wr), roger craig (rb). they will probably win the nfc west this year and are improving, but i doubt they will reach the montana-rice heights for a quite a while.

breezy, lack of ability is understandable, lack of effort is not. everybody has matches/days where they just don’t have it, but the greats never “mail it in”, that is what separates them from the others. those that have tons of talent but lack maturity and application are the ones that should be called out and should have supporters on their backs. ade comes specifically to mind during the 08-9 season – he had worked so hard during the previous seasons. sometimes looking awkward and ungainly, but always putting in an honest shift. then he got his head turned, then he got paid, and then he couldn’t be bothered anymore. i hold him up as an object lesson to younger players – do not go down this path.

a lot of it is arsene himself. if anyone suspects that he does not like to deal with difficult questions, i hold the shareholders q&a from a couple of seasons ago up as proof. players can say “oh, i know i have to do better”, etc all they like, but if performances do not improve, than something is clearly not working. if i say i am crap at my job and vow to improve that is one thing. if my boss tells the group (media) that i am crap and need to improve, that is something completely different. which do you think would motivate me to work harder?

look, last baseball analogy: three nights ago in atlanta, with the mets trailing late but trying to rally against braves, they put two runners on. 1b ike davis walks on four straight pitches. mets cleanup hitter, 3b david wright comes up. instead of taking pitches from a pitcher who is having problems finding the strike zone, he swings at the second pitch and grounds weakly out. threat, inning and game effectively over. in the postgame, wright talks of his struggles and says he must do better. the next game in philadelphia, he goes 1-4 and strands more runners on base in another loss. david is to be applauded for his honesty, but where is the accountability. instead of david saying these things, why isn’t his manager (jerry manuel) saying, david is one of many that is just not getting it done right now and it is hurting the team. harsh perhaps, but david cannot argue with that, because it is absolutely true. would a public comment from his manager help? nothing else has, so i think it is worth a try. and so should arsene, when the need arises.

sorry about the mets, but i felt that was a good way to try and prove my point.

no surprise there. this fixture is all about fab. and i do not read too much into arsene’s comments yesterday. it is not like he was going to bring his team to warsaw and then throw fab under the bus – it would be classic if he did, and merited in some ways, but he never will

steve wasn’t that young when niners signed him from tampa bay to back montana up. if i remember, he was already in his thirties when he finally won the starting job. at the end, he could still throw the ball well, but had lost much of the mobility that made him so effective and the team around him had deteriorated. like troy aikman with dallas, he started getting regular concussions from hard hits, and left at proabably the right time, if not a bit late.

hi mustang! as a giants fan, it goes without saying that i am not a fan of the dallas cowboys. but i am happy to give credit where credit is due and give grudging respect to the aikman/emmitt/irvin team of the 90’s. i do think his o-line at their peak was excellent – but once they deteriorated, so did aikman’s game, and by the end he was a sitting duck. plus he was never the most mobile of guys, unlike tony romo.

giants fan eh? Understand your “love” for the cowboys, but you are right the trinity were good. Can’t remember a trio that good perform consistently and that successful on the same roaster. What’s the news on plaxico?

plax is still in the clink. he has applied twice for work release and has been denied. he will not be coming back to the giants, i can assure you that. however, when he gets out, he will find some work, i have no doubt about that. when the giants released him pending his court date, the jets tried to get him. perhaps they will revisit. although they already have their own “problem” wr in braylon.

yeah, i think that cowboys team was one of a kind. jerry and jimmy have to thank minnesota for that – the vikings trade for herschel walker allowed dallas to stockpile all those draft picks and build a championship team from the ground up. perhaps arsene will not be able to achieve this with the current arsenal side, but his model is similar to dallas – integrate talented young players and grow them together in a championship team. for those who say it can never work, it did for dallas, albeit in a different sport/country.