You keep talking about shootings in a general sense and all I've ever referred to is extreme situations like this. This fucking blows. In extreme situations like this, stricter gun laws aren't really going to prevent anything. Aurora, Colombine, etc. The long, drawn out, premeditated murders. Your shootings based on an emotional overreaction and heat of the moment type murder? Arguable, sure. These? These people are going to procure the weaponry necessary to carry it out.

bk said:

I used to beat off alot, and fail all my classes

Insight said:

I figured he's a phony but I was secretly hoping to get pounded by someone famous.

These situations happen significantly less in countries where there are strict gun laws. I mean, I can remember 2 shootings in American that made the news in the UK this year alone, I can't remember a single story about a shooting in the UK since 2010.

These are intentional homicides, so maybe that's why some values are different...

Data points aren't very clear, maybe you confused Austria with another one

Whops I did....south africa lol (that makes sense)

Sykeasaurus, on 21 November 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

You keep talking about shootings in a general sense and all I've ever referred to is extreme situations like this. This fucking blows. In extreme situations like this, stricter gun laws aren't really going to prevent anything. Aurora, Colombine, etc. The long, drawn out, premeditated murders. Your shootings based on an emotional overreaction and heat of the moment type murder? Arguable, sure. These? These people are going to procure the weaponry necessary to carry it out.

It does fucking blow that you can't see the benefit of stricter gun laws in a nation that has some of the highest firearm-related death rate in the world. Go back to the initial post of mine you quoted, do you disagree with the points I brought up there?

More checks and bounds means a higher rate of these people getting caught before proceeding with their plan or entirely being unable to procure a firearm (resorting to more archaic methods=less damaging). Not to mention that the damage associated with some of those passions crimes would be lowered as well.

Damage control.

You should need a reason for having a firearm not just "because its mah 'murrica right"

Shootings are more rare in countries with less guns. What's the point of stating this?

Look, all you have to do to convince these Americans that they need stricter gun laws is to post statistics from countries who have such laws. Show how crime rates and homicide rates dropped. Even better would be to take 2 or more developed countries in the same region. Show how the countries with the stricter laws and fewer guns have a lower crime/homicide rate.

It does fucking blow that you can't see the benefit of stricter gun laws in a nation that has some of the highest firearm-related death rate in the world. Go back to the initial post of mine you quoted, do you disagree with the points I brought up there?

More checks and bounds means a higher rate of these people getting caught before proceeding with their plan or entirely being unable to procure a firearm (resorting to more archaic methods=less damaging). Not to mention that the damage associated with some of those passions crimes would be lowered as well.

Damage control.

You should need a reason for having a firearm not just "because its mah 'murrica right"

Sweet, you're back on firearm related death when I've never argued that general sense.

bk said:

I used to beat off alot, and fail all my classes

Insight said:

I figured he's a phony but I was secretly hoping to get pounded by someone famous.