Yes. 20 year olds aren't as good at basketball in general as 26 year olds.

As I said, it would be neat to see him develop, but if we could get back Rondo in exchange + Ray Allen + shed Ben Gordon and all that we have to do in exchange is swap draft picks, I'm feeling pretty good about it.

The Boston fans would wonder how they got so hosed and Joe Dumars would regain his reputation as a trading shark.

I'd have a tough time turning down any deal that didn't involve Greg Monroe if it meant Ben Gordon's salary would be coming off the books and a better contract situation was coming in. Ex-UConn Huskies have killed the Pistons from a salary/value stanpoint the last couple years and IMO account for the 3 biggest mistakes of Joe's GM career. 1. Ben Gordon 2. Charlie Rubbish 3. The re-signing of Richard Hamilton

Why do you think that? After the way Joe signed him this summer, I actually would be very surprised if he trades Prince. I hope he does, but I don't think it'll happen.

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The season has not went the way JD figured ( I doubt he thought we would be 12-26 now? ) and I doubt it has went the way Gores had hoped - Unless he is happy being dead last in the league in attendance.

So somekind of mid-large trade is warranted and I would be surprised if he was not getting pressure from the top to shake things up a bit too.

Moving on. Here's a rumor from another blog, BUT this guy says he's been talking to people close to the Lakers.

I am hearing that, if no other deal can be made before the deadline, the team will look to swing a smaller trade for a point guard in the 11th hour. Two names the Lakers are closely monitoring are Will Bynum of the Detroit Pistons and A.J. Price of the Indiana Pacers. Bynum particularly is a favorite of Mitch Kupchak’s for his explosiveness and ability to create shots for others.

The season has not went the way JD figured ( I doubt he thought we would be 12-26 now? ) and I doubt it has went the way Gores had hoped - Unless he is happy being dead last in the league in attendance.

So somekind of mid-large trade is warranted and I would be surprised if he was not getting pressure from the top to shake things up a bit too.

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I don't think there are too many objective, knowledgeable people that are surprised that the Pistons record is this bad. I'm sure Dumars and Gores saw this coming. Why do you think there is more focus on the halftime shows than the actual games?

There are certainly some upsides to Will Bynums games, but I can't see this trade as anything other than a very short term trade to rest Fisher's legs.

Bynum's game relies entirely on his explosiveness, but he is a scorer, not a distributor. I don't believe the Lakers would be willing to gamble on this guy. He is a total defensive liability, and has a very high usage rate compared to his results.

I don't think there are too many objective, knowledgeable people that are surprised that the Pistons record is this bad. I'm sure Dumars and Gores saw this coming. Why do you think there is more focus on the halftime shows than the actual games?

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I don't know. Won 32 games last year amongst all the drama. Better coach, new rookie PG and player improvement should have equated to a better winning pct? Just about everyone but Monroe is off this season.

There are certainly some upsides to Will Bynums games, but I can't see this trade as anything other than a very short term trade to rest Fisher's legs.

Bynum's game relies entirely on his explosiveness, but he is a scorer, not a distributor. I don't believe the Lakers would be willing to gamble on this guy. He is a total defensive liability, and has a very high usage rate compared to his results.

Very revealing quote from Joe on MLive today. Just read between the lines and there is no doubt that there is possibly a chance that a trade might go down if certain things fall into place in the right way.

“It's really just conversations. All of these guys who run teams, they know what they are trying to get. They know what's important to them. You know what's important to you. You're just trying to line that up, line it up and see if there's a connection there, see if we have a fit here. And if you don't, you keep talking and see, try to massage it. And at a certain point, you get to the point where it's either there or it's not, because you're not going to do anything that's going to be detrimental for you, and you don't suspect the other team is going to do that, either. So that's what ends up happening. It's just trying to line up what's important for both teams, and if it somehow matches up, you might have something.”

Very revealing quote from Joe on MLive today. Just read between the lines and there is no doubt that there is possibly a chance that a trade might go down if certain things fall into place in the right way.

Q: When someone asks what's important for you, what are your two or three bullet points that you give them?A: “I don't want to get too specific here, for MLive to lay out all my game plan. Listen, to be honest with you, I would say this, in the vaguest terms I can, we tell teams that we're building, we're building for the future, and we're not going to do anything to jeopardize our future, we're not going to do anything to tie our hands going forward. So with that being the basis, teams understand kind of what's available, and what's not, when you say that.”

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When does Joe intend to implement this action plan? Is he starting now? ...at the trade deadline? Is this new line of thinking something he plans to unveil during the off-season? ...Three years from now?

I'm totally looking forward to Joe moving full speed ahead with the process of living by these "vague terms". This should lead to a complete transformation of the Pistons roster, replacing no less than 8 players with younger, more versitle guys, signed to intelligent contracts that allow Joe to capitalize on opportunities to improve the team. This is gonna be awesome when he rolls it out!

When does Joe intend to implement this action plan? Is he starting now? ...at the trade deadline? Is this new line of thinking something he plans to unveil during the off-season? ...Three years from now?

I'm totally looking forward to Joe moving full speed ahead with the process of living by these "vague terms". This should lead to a complete transformation of the Pistons roster, replacing no less than 8 players with younger, more versitle guys, signed to intelligent contracts that allow Joe to capitalize on opportunities to improve the team. This is gonna be awesome when he rolls it out!

Go Joe!!! Go Pistons!!!

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Easy, man. It's all quiet there. The most tradeable veteran -ass(et) is Tay. And speakin of Tay - dumars is in no hurry anyway . Of course, you really can't expect from team GM: "we're sucking next two years anyway - til certain contracts either will expire or will be traded." Yes, miracle could happen annd somebody takes either BG or CV for instance next year, but do not count on it.

I think when you become a GM......you're issued a book of appropriate quotes to be used during interviews. JD has used most of them during the last 4 years. I'd rather he'd say, "I've got 8 losers and they're up for grabs".