ADNAN OKTAR: Now this Joel and.. Of course I am not referring to Joel alone but to people who think like him, as there are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of people like Joel, who are mistaken. Look, let me explain again based on Bediuzzaman Said Nursi's opinions on the subject in order to eliminate that error. I'm continuing. "It is even recorded," says Bediuzzaman "in authentic traditions of the Prophet (saas)," in true hadiths, "that at the end of time, the truly pious among the Christians," Christians, truly devout ones as there are also dishonest and insincere religious people, "will unite with the People of the Qur'an," they will ally themselves with Muslims. What are Christians doing? They are forging an alliance with Muslims. What does alliance mean? Striving shoulder to shoulder, together as brothers and friends. Against what? Against the antichrist. Are the Christians the antichrist here, or are they opposed to the antichrist? They are opposed to the antichrist. Who are they striving against? Against the antichrist. Who? Muslims and Christians together. "... and fight their common enemy, irreligion," the antichrist that is. "And at this time, too, the people of religion," all true believers "and the people of truth," in other words including the director of religious affairs, and all true sincere Muslims seeking the truth, "need to unite sincerely not only with their fellow believers," not only with Muslims, he says, "and own brothers," uniting sincerely with one's brothers, for example with the people in the same country, and acting together, in a sincere manner. "... but also with the truly pious and spiritual ones among the Christians." Look, with the truly pious and spiritual Christians, that is Christian priests and men of religion, devout Christians. Look, I am coming to the most important point here. "... temporarily from the discussion and debate of points of difference," not debating about belief in the trinity or other matters, but regarding them as brothers just as they are, friends in the cause. "... in order to combat their joint enemy--aggressive atheism," in other words the antichrist. "They need that", says Bediuzzaman. He says that Christians and Muslims must act together. That is why those who try to set Christians and Muslims against one another are making a grave error. That is very wrong. The truth is what Bediuzzaman says, as also clearly set out in the hadiths. Because even if they believe in the trinity, they still say they believe in the One Allah. This stems from misinterpretation of the trinity. Instead of saying he [Jesus Christ] is a manifestation of Allah, they describe him as if he were God Himself, as if he were really the son of Allah. But this is really in the sense of a manifestation. If they say it in the sense of a manifestation, that puts an end to it and there is no problem.