UNLESS, Beanie takes a Quinn like stumble this year in the draft after we drafted Rey-Rey or Mays. Then I'd trade for him.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

reppination7 wrote:idk it depends, who do you want a runningback? or a cornerback? or a linebacker?

wells could fall far, if teams are scared cause of his injury situation with him

Toad McDouche from ESPN has us taking Malcom Jenkins at #5. FWIW

they also had the cavs talking kufos

good corner back would really help on the browns, what about the guy from USC the linebacker? i cant recall his name at the moment, or laurinitus, someone that can show our players how to tackle, cause we know they can both just lay people out

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

I wouldn't draft Wells, the guy cannot stay on the field in college. He is the most talented back in the draft, but he is fragile. I would put the over under on staff induced amputations with the Browns at 2.

Seriously, I question his ability to stay on the field in the NFL in the most physically abused position on the field. Not worth a first IMO.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

did he have mono before this years draft or is there another reason they used their 1st rounder on a qb? think there is going to be a qb competition next camp? I think not.

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

did he have mono before this years draft or is there another reason they used their 1st rounder on a qb? think there is going to be a qb competition next camp? I think not.

Because nobody uses a first round pick when they have another quarterback on their roster who is unproven, right?

You act like Flacco is lighting up the stat sheet. If Smith comes into camp and has a better camp than Flacco, I am sure there will be some in that org that back him. I believe a lot of Ravens were very pro Smith going into camp this year.

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

No.

There were just a ton that laughed at you when you said he didn't desrve the Heisman and wasn't a good college player.

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

did he have mono before this years draft or is there another reason they used their 1st rounder on a qb? think there is going to be a qb competition next camp? I think not.

You might want to think again. Flacco is not all that. Lets call him DA with a much better Defense. Smith gives you more options. It will be interesting next camp for the Ravens

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

did he have mono before this years draft or is there another reason they used their 1st rounder on a qb? think there is going to be a qb competition next camp? I think not.

You might want to think again. Flacco is not all that. Lets call him DA with a much better Defense. Smith gives you more options. It will be interesting next camp for the Ravens

Im not going to think about it again. I will go find this in August and September and you can review your opinions with out scarlet tinted shades on

Edit: Hard to judge college talent translating to the NFL when some of you guys are wearing these when you do it

Ziner wrote:I fucking hate that shithead. He honestly said we should take Troy Smith with our 3rd pick in 2007. If he was half as smart as he thought he was he would be paid big money by an NFL team///

that said... If we draft him I'm done with the Browns, seriously not a threat...

There were a ton of Ohio State fans that wanted us to take Troy Smith with the #3 pick prior to the BCS title game.

Now if he said that they should've taken him after that game then he's a complete idiot. I don't think anyone was saying that afterwards, but a lot of people were prior, including a couple of people that post here regularly.

Fans always say that shit... but an supposed expert shouldnt be that ridiculous. That is why I turn the channel everytime that jackass is on TV. If Troy Smith went 30/32 for 430 yards and 4 TDs he still shouldnt have gone higher than where he went. There is a reason a D1AA QB is starting over him now

Like getting mono during training camp and losing 20 pounds and not practicing?

did he have mono before this years draft or is there another reason they used their 1st rounder on a qb? think there is going to be a qb competition next camp? I think not.

You might want to think again. Flacco is not all that. Lets call him DA with a much better Defense. Smith gives you more options. It will be interesting next camp for the Ravens

Im not going to think about it again. I will go find this in August and September and you can review your opinions with out scarlet tinted shades on

Edit: Hard to judge college talent translating to the NFL when some of you guys are wearing these when you do it

Camp starts in July, so don't wait until August :) Don't get me wrong. I think they are about equal, but Smith gives them a little extra. If not for the illness, Flacco would never have gotten his chance. Luckily for him he threw up some big numbers against bad teams (Browns, Bengals). But never reached 200 yards against good defenses (Steelers, Giants, Philly, Wash.). Like I said, it will be interesting camp. I am not saying Troy is heads and shoulders above, but neither is Joe that far ahead of Troy

Wow everyone doubts Beanie. Where were all these injury concerns last year? You know when he ran for 1,600 yards. All I know is what I saw, a tough young man who runs hard every down. The guy is going to be a star. RBs are going to get banged up it's the nature of the game. Show me one RB that hasn't had hasn't been banged up at some point in college. I hope the Browns do avoid him, for his sake, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that franchise, in that locker room.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Wow everyone doubts Beanie. Where were all these injury concerns last year? You know when he ran for 1,600 yards. All I know is what I saw, a tough young man who runs hard every down. The guy is going to be a star. RBs are going to get banged up it's the nature of the game. Show me one RB that hasn't had hasn't been banged up at some point in college. I hope the Browns do avoid him, for his sake, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that franchise, in that locker room.

There are too many examples in history to show you that college stats are meaningless when it comes to playing on Sunday. Especially with stats accrued against a Big Ten conference that is the worst it has been in my lifetime.

You show me an NFL back that needs to come to the sidelines everytime he breaks off a run of 15+ yards. There is a mental softness to Beanie that is undeniable .. it goes much further than just being unlucky with injuries.

I'll go as far as to say that Chester Taylor will have better career numbers than Beanie when it's all said and done.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Wow everyone doubts Beanie. Where were all these injury concerns last year? You know when he ran for 1,600 yards. All I know is what I saw, a tough young man who runs hard every down. The guy is going to be a star. RBs are going to get banged up it's the nature of the game. Show me one RB that hasn't had hasn't been banged up at some point in college. I hope the Browns do avoid him, for his sake, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that franchise, in that locker room.

Yeah, buy the concern......No need for a great speed/power combo back in the NFL.

They played 13.

For me there's no question about what he does when he's on field. It's the fact he comes off it so often and for seemingly no objective reasons.

He missed 3 games because he tore a ligament in his foot. Alot of guys would've missed more games. Thats a perfect example on why he is so tough. He came back waaaaaay before he was 100%. No one questioned his toughness last year, but after he misses 3 games due to a real injury and people question his toughness. He had to come off for some plays for no other reason than he was not 100%.

Please show me one RB in the NFL or College that hasn't taken plays off.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Wow everyone doubts Beanie. Where were all these injury concerns last year? You know when he ran for 1,600 yards. All I know is what I saw, a tough young man who runs hard every down. The guy is going to be a star. RBs are going to get banged up it's the nature of the game. Show me one RB that hasn't had hasn't been banged up at some point in college. I hope the Browns do avoid him, for his sake, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that franchise, in that locker room.

Yeah, buy the concern......No need for a great speed/power combo back in the NFL.

They played 13.

For me there's no question about what he does when he's on field. It's the fact he comes off it so often and for seemingly no objective reasons.

He missed 3 games because he tore a ligament in his foot. Alot of guys would've missed more games. Thats a perfect example on why he is so tough. He came back waaaaaay before he was 100%. No one questioned his toughness last year, but after he misses 3 games due to a real injury and people question his toughness. He had to come off for some plays for no other reason than he was not 100%.

Please show me one RB in the NFL or College that hasn't taken plays off.

We're not gonna convince each other regarding opinions on Beanie and his desire. All I know is he missed three games with some mysterious foot injury (still haven't seen it professionally diagnosed btw) including the biggest game of the year at USC. Then he took himself out of the Michigan game with another malady. Then he comes out of the season finale in a BCS bowl with what he calls a concussion that clearly didn't scramble his eggs anywhere near the point where he couldn't talk about it for 20 minutes to reporters afterward.

Watch as we get closer to the draft CDT. And tell me what the one overriding concern is when Chris Wells is discussed. It's not going to be his ability on the football field. It's how much he actually wants to be on it.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Wow everyone doubts Beanie. Where were all these injury concerns last year? You know when he ran for 1,600 yards. All I know is what I saw, a tough young man who runs hard every down. The guy is going to be a star. RBs are going to get banged up it's the nature of the game. Show me one RB that hasn't had hasn't been banged up at some point in college. I hope the Browns do avoid him, for his sake, I wouldn't want to be stuck in that franchise, in that locker room.

Yeah, buy the concern......No need for a great speed/power combo back in the NFL.

They played 13.

For me there's no question about what he does when he's on field. It's the fact he comes off it so often and for seemingly no objective reasons.

He missed 3 games because he tore a ligament in his foot. Alot of guys would've missed more games. Thats a perfect example on why he is so tough. He came back waaaaaay before he was 100%. No one questioned his toughness last year, but after he misses 3 games due to a real injury and people question his toughness. He had to come off for some plays for no other reason than he was not 100%.

Please show me one RB in the NFL or College that hasn't taken plays off.

We're not gonna convince each other regarding opinions on Beanie and his desire. All I know is he missed three games with some mysterious foot injury (still haven't seen it professionally diagnosed btw) including the biggest game of the year at USC. Then he took himself out of the Michigan game with another malady. Then he comes out of the season finale in a BCS bowl with what he calls a concussion that clearly didn't scramble his eggs anywhere near the point where he couldn't talk about it for 20 minutes to reporters afterward.

Watch as we get closer to the draft CDT. And tell me what the one overriding concern is when Chris Wells is discussed. It's not going to be his ability on the football field. It's how much he actually wants to be on it.

That's all I'm saying.

I've already convinced you. You just don't know it yet. It's called levitation holmes. Maybe he talked to the reporters so long because his eggs were so scambled. Anywho we just agree to disaree.

You and I both know there is a huge difference projecting QBs and RBs to the NFL based on stats.

But I guess a guy who missed 3 games with a foot injury (not really a big deal for a RB, I guess) and half of one with a concussion (usually very smart to play through those, btw) in 2 1/2 years deserves your label of Mr. Glass more than a guy who's bones and ligaments were as brittle as a sheet of ice.

I know more about pizza than you. Much more in fact. - Cerebral_DownTime

he really disappointed me this season, i though he was in store for a Heisman type campaign. he has the potential to be other-worldly great, but he needs to toughen up, i mean every single game he got hurt and limped off to the sidelines! if Jim Brown were dead he would've been turning over in his grave

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