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Just wondering what kind of sense it makes to put a 500GB drive in the HR24?

This is Directv's newest receiver. I'm assuming its supposed to be THE hd DVR receiver for the next few years. With so many people putting 1T+ drives attached to their DVR on the older drives from 2007, why didn't they put a 1TB or higher drive in the HR24?

The price of an HR24 is $160 (discounted) up to around $199. 1TB drives are only about $10-20 more than 500GB drives right now. So instead of including a more mainstream (for 2010) 1TB drive, they opted for a 500gb. Then I have to go out and purchase a second drive, with external enclosure, wasting 2x as much energy powering both drives, wasting material, chemicals, etc. I would have paid $20-30 more to have an internal 1TB drive, rather then having an external enclosure and an external drive.

I like the idea of the HR24 being faster and the next generation and all. I just don't get why they wouldn't put at least a 1TB drive in this thing, or offer it as an option.

I guess 500gb might be fine for the average person. It seems like most of the techies on here have 1TB though. I imagine it might be a good marketing thing too, if they had the only 1TB drive DVR.

The only real good reason other than slight cost difference is that they didn't want to have a DVR that was that much better than the HR20,21,22,23... Otherwise everyone would call in wanting to upgrade (even more than they already are). Kind of forces them to not come out with a huge leap in DVR technology on a new platform, otherwise they have to figure out a structure for allowing people to upgrade to that specific unit.

Just wondering what kind of sense it makes to put a 500GB drive in the HR24?

This is Directv's newest receiver. I'm assuming its supposed to be THE hd DVR receiver for the next few years. With so many people putting 1T+ drives attached to their DVR on the older drives from 2007, why didn't they put a 1TB or higher drive in the HR24?

The price of an HR24 is $160 (discounted) up to around $199. 1TB drives are only about $10-20 more than 500GB drives right now. So instead of including a more mainstream (for 2010) 1TB drive, they opted for a 500gb. Then I have to go out and purchase a second drive, with external enclosure, wasting 2x as much energy powering both drives, wasting material, chemicals, etc. I would have paid $20-30 more to have an internal 1TB drive, rather then having an external enclosure and an external drive.

I like the idea of the HR24 being faster and the next generation and all. I just don't get why they wouldn't put at least a 1TB drive in this thing, or offer it as an option.

I guess 500gb might be fine for the average person. It seems like most of the techies on here have 1TB though. I imagine it might be a good marketing thing too, if they had the only 1TB drive DVR.

The only real good reason other than slight cost difference is that they didn't want to have a DVR that was that much better than the HR20,21,22,23... Otherwise everyone would call in wanting to upgrade (even more than they already are). Kind of forces them to not come out with a huge leap in DVR technology on a new platform, otherwise they have to figure out a structure for allowing people to upgrade to that specific unit.

100 hours of HD content is already pretty generous. I think you are vastly overestimating the percentage of customers who want to upgrade beyond that. Heck most of cable provides are just starting to upgrade their units from the 160gb hds that store ~20 hours of hd.

Now I do expect the rumored HMC-30 to have a 1tb or possibly larger HD. More tuners and the ability to provide more streams should come with more storage space.

IMO, my parents represent the "typical" DVR user. They record a good 3-5 hours of TV per day. They rarely got near 50% on their HR20 stock 300something drive...they stayed around 10-20% full. It makes "cents" to use a 500GB drive when average users don't use near 1TB.

If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

IMO, my parents represent the "typical" DVR user. They record a good 3-5 hours of TV per day. They rarely got near 50% on their HR20 stock 300something drive...they stayed around 10-20% full. It makes "cents" to use a 500GB drive when average users don't use near 1TB.

My mom and step-dad are almost the same as your parents and have no issues with just the 20 hours of HD they get on their Verizon Multiroom DVR.

Looking at the Verizon forums, there are a couple of threads with a few folks posting they want more storage, but it's not as big an issue as one might think. Had it been a real problem over the past 2-3 years, I would think Verizon would have addressed it by now, for fear of not being able to acquire new subs because of this issue.

Seriously, you think it's any higher than that? I don't know of a single person (outside of this board) who has upgraded their HDD or runs an e-sata drive. I don't even know of anyone who complains about the storage space. It just isn't an issue for almost anyone....including me.

A lot of these arguments on both sides remind me of the "Why didn't the put a 500GB drive in the HR20?" threads from a while back. I think it's cost at this point, and you saw that when it did make sense, DIRECTV quietly started putting in 500GB drives.

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I don't care about the percentage of the customers who are in the minority but just give us the Option to keep us happy so we don't have to Perform the Upgrade ourselves.

That is why alot of car manufacturers give you the Option of Upgrading to a larger engine if you want to pay for it.

It's not that easy. A separate model needs to be created and tested. Plus, with as low volume as the 1TB version would be, it would end up being a lot more than $10-20 more expensive than the standard version. My guess would be more like $50. Then what happens when that one dies, and you get an 500GB version as a replacement? How would that go over with you? It just creates more issues than it solves.

Seriously, you think it's any higher than that? I don't know of a single person (outside of this board) who has upgraded their HDD or runs an e-sata drive. I don't even know of anyone who complains about the storage space. It just isn't an issue for almost anyone....including me.

I know families with DirecTV who have three & four kids (one with an HR21 and the other with an HR23). They’re both running into space constraints. I know a third who has an eSATA drive on his HR20.

However, I think both our sample sizes are just a bit small to extrapolate out to the general subscriber.

Mike

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It comes down to what the competition has and if you look at the current website bragging about the HR22 and up having the "two times more DVR storage than cable", you'll understand why they don't feel the need to go larger at this time.

You have to remember that DIRECTV is very motivated to NOT differentiate between receivers. The HR24's defining difference is built-in DECA. Those in the know know better but not talking about other advantages (like not promoting the HR23's wide band tuners) avoids people clamoring for particular models (especially as replacements).

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