doglover:blueviking: picturescrazy: Not saying it's OK, but I really don't see how anyone should be charged with murder if someone dies in a fist fight. Doesn't murder imply that there was an intent to kill? How many people actually want to kill someone when they punch them?

It's intentionally or knowingly engaging in conduct that would cause a person's death here in Texas. They didn't give much detail about the course of the fight, so, it's possible.

So every cook at Hardee's is guilty of murder in Texas?

I don't think I've ever eaten at a Hardee's...but looking at their "Thickburger" on the website, that might just be the case.

blueviking:doglover: blueviking: picturescrazy: Not saying it's OK, but I really don't see how anyone should be charged with murder if someone dies in a fist fight. Doesn't murder imply that there was an intent to kill? How many people actually want to kill someone when they punch them?

It's intentionally or knowingly engaging in conduct that would cause a person's death here in Texas. They didn't give much detail about the course of the fight, so, it's possible.

So every cook at Hardee's is guilty of murder in Texas?

I don't think I've ever eaten at a Hardee's...but looking at their "Thickburger" on the website, that might just be the case.

picturescrazy:Not saying it's OK, but I really don't see how anyone should be charged with murder if someone dies in a fist fight. Doesn't murder imply that there was an intent to kill? How many people actually want to kill someone when they punch them?

To me this implies people are just fighting in the streets like a Bugs Bunny cartoon and it's no big deal and if someone happens to die or lose an eye or break their back and become paralyzed for life... well, it was just a little tussle that unfortunately went a little too far.No, if someone is hitting me, they're assaulting me and it's kind of a big deal. If I was injured enough to require medical treatment I would want them off the street and in jail for years. If I died from their assault I would want them to spend the rest of their life in prison after being convicted of murder.Either you get in a lot of fights or you have never been in a fight.

doglover:Maybe she curb stomped her. There were plenty of witnesses, so there must be more the story than what's here.What if she wasn't attacked unduly? Just a legit punch resulting in surprise trauma in something important neither party could know about?

Well I don't know. The story is incomplete and we don't have a cause of death. Why are you asking me? I'm not even an internet lawyer.

Now, I'm not a racist person, but when you have all these ingredients together, I'm going to assume the participants are black.

/gf is half black//best friend is black and he agrees with me on this topic. Why are you living down to the stereotypes, people?///take out #2 and put in "stripper-name" instead of the "original phonetic name", and you're talking about white trailer trash

HectorSchwartz:picturescrazy: Not saying it's OK, but I really don't see how anyone should be charged with murder if someone dies in a fist fight. Doesn't murder imply that there was an intent to kill? How many people actually want to kill someone when they punch them?

Let me get this straight, are you trying to say she's not guilty? I believe the legal stance on this is... Who ever denied it supplied it

I'm not certain how it is there but I expect that there is bound to be at least a precedent if not an actual codified law based on the English common law principle of he that smelt it, dealt it.

picturescrazy:Not saying it's OK, but I really don't see how anyone should be charged with murder if someone dies in a fist fight. Doesn't murder imply that there was an intent to kill? How many people actually want to kill someone when they punch them?

IANAL, but from watching way too many episodes of Law and Order I've gotten the idea that murder comes in several degrees, ranging from 1st degree to 3rd degree.Seems like intent has a lot to do with it from "Imma getchu ass" to "oh fark, that wasn't s'pose ta happen like THAT".