Son of Stein

IvCNuB4 wrote:Anyone care to lay odds on how long it will take Nacireman to post about how awful the artwork is ?

Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

Son of Stein

IvCNuB4 wrote:Anyone care to lay odds on how long it will take Nacireman to post about how awful the artwork is ?

Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

Son of Stein

IvCNuB4 wrote:Anyone care to lay odds on how long it will take Nacireman to post about how awful the artwork is ?

Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

Son of Stein

IvCNuB4 wrote:Anyone care to lay odds on how long it will take Nacireman to post about how awful the artwork is ?

Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

DANG!

Amoebas wrote:Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

I guess I'm going to have to ask someone to quote me so Amoebas can read this.

My "Legion Dementia?" So it's "dementia" to point out that the book has been a flop sales-wise? Care to look at the numbers?

The fact that Legion has lost over half its sales between the start of the Nu-52 till the #0 issue which was the first month the book went UP in sales instead of down. I didn't make that one out of thin air. Click on the link.

DANG!

Amoebas wrote:Or use the word "neo"? Or complain about how Jan's costume is too sexy, or bitch about how Dr. Gym'll originally had 4 hours and this has to be a fake, or moan about some crazy thing that he just makes up outta thin air to justify his Legion dementia?

Love the book - love Kolins on it - looking forward to having this in me hands real soon!

I guess I'm going to have to ask someone to quote me so Amoebas can read this.

My "Legion Dementia?" So it's "dementia" to point out that the book has been a flop sales-wise? Care to look at the numbers?

The fact that Legion has lost over half its sales between the start of the Nu-52 till the #0 issue which was the first month the book went UP in sales instead of down. I didn't make that one out of thin air. Click on the link.

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

DANG!

Seriously though, Kollins' art sucks. It's way too one-dimensional. Can't DC find someone who is more of a Perez-Grell style artist for Legion? If it is going for the nostalgia trip, work on the parts that made Legion successful in the past.

DANG!

Seriously though, Kollins' art sucks. It's way too one-dimensional. Can't DC find someone who is more of a Perez-Grell style artist for Legion? If it is going for the nostalgia trip, work on the parts that made Legion successful in the past.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

DANG!

Dude acts like the book doesn't have any problems. He thinks every Legion fan should be a kool-aid drinker like him. I can point to reasons why I have problems with the book, or that sales are a disaster, and changes need to be made in the book's overall direction. I don't think I've ever personally attacked him once on the board. But he can't seem to do the same. Or make logical defenses on his point of view.

Dude acts like the book doesn't have any problems. He thinks every Legion fan should be a kool-aid drinker like him. I can point to reasons why I have problems with the book, or that sales are a disaster, and changes need to be made in the book's overall direction. I don't think I've ever personally attacked him once on the board. But he can't seem to do the same. Or make logical defenses on his point of view.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

DANG!

doombug wrote:Scott Kollins is one of the best artists working on comics today and is easily one of the best flash artists of the last 20 years.

I shall have no besmirching of the man's talent!

Just because an artist's style works on one book, it doesn't mean it will work on another. His art looks too flat and cartoonish here. Worse he doesn't seem to have a vision for the 31st century that complements his style. It looks too generic and dull.

DANG!

doombug wrote:Scott Kollins is one of the best artists working on comics today and is easily one of the best flash artists of the last 20 years.

I shall have no besmirching of the man's talent!

Just because an artist's style works on one book, it doesn't mean it will work on another. His art looks too flat and cartoonish here. Worse he doesn't seem to have a vision for the 31st century that complements his style. It looks too generic and dull.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

DANG!

doombug wrote:Nac the problem isn't with the fucking creative team. I'm trying to be nice here but at the end of the day:

No one gives a shit about the Legion anymore, it's really that simple.

You could be Van Sciver or Johns on the book and it still wouldn't sell or get much interest.

Johns got people to buy Aquaman, for crying out loud!

Nobody gave a $#!t about any Swamp Thing before Alan Moore came along, either. (And he wasn't quite a megastar at the time when he started on the book, either.

Not to bring the threeboot up, but it was a middle-level selling book before Meltzer and Johns brought the old team "back" in the Lightning Saga. The current book's sales are weaker now then they were then.

I think there's a place for a Legion book, it just needs to be done right, and DC needs to stick with it instead of changing course when it didn't really have to.

DANG!

doombug wrote:Nac the problem isn't with the fucking creative team. I'm trying to be nice here but at the end of the day:

No one gives a shit about the Legion anymore, it's really that simple.

You could be Van Sciver or Johns on the book and it still wouldn't sell or get much interest.

Johns got people to buy Aquaman, for crying out loud!

Nobody gave a $#!t about any Swamp Thing before Alan Moore came along, either. (And he wasn't quite a megastar at the time when he started on the book, either.

Not to bring the threeboot up, but it was a middle-level selling book before Meltzer and Johns brought the old team "back" in the Lightning Saga. The current book's sales are weaker now then they were then.

I think there's a place for a Legion book, it just needs to be done right, and DC needs to stick with it instead of changing course when it didn't really have to.

"I have my heroes, but no one knows their names"- Sons of the Desert

Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

Mad Hatter

I've pretty much agreed wholeheartedly with Nacireman on LSH but I've got to say (and the images in this post are the first I've seen of Kolins LSH) that Kolins art looks fantastic. He is one of those artists I'll buy pretty much anything they do.Had just recently dropped LSH but I think I'll be picking it up again....

Mad Hatter

I've pretty much agreed wholeheartedly with Nacireman on LSH but I've got to say (and the images in this post are the first I've seen of Kolins LSH) that Kolins art looks fantastic. He is one of those artists I'll buy pretty much anything they do.Had just recently dropped LSH but I think I'll be picking it up again....