I read a few pages of root’s thread and I think I somehow grasped it. Now the bottom line is, if you remember me from the other threads (I also have a progress log) do you think it is a good idea to switch to a stress relaxation extender ? It feels like I’m stuck at the same tension with mine and not gaining anything.

I saw your home made extender. You are a genius it’s very good.

While I think not sure springs are missing and so after one point to increase tension it’s tough to screw more. As for in extenders with springs you can screw more just change springs of higher tension. I am not sure just a thought. But I think you extender is good. Now I need advice from you. You are putting a vaccum device. I also had connected my phallosan to my extender but due to water retention my frenulum tore and was bleeding. I am now afraid to try that again.

Can you tell me you experience and tell me what device you use and tell me about water retention and for how many hours you wear your extender.

10-04-2014, 02:19 PM

money_man

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

Money_man,

You need to read these and then get back to me about whether or not you want a commercial account here.

No no I don’t need commercial account I was just saying for fun. Don’t take my posts wrong. I am happy with my business.

10-04-2014, 02:27 PM

money_man

Originally Posted by money_man

Yes I have this work shop, a textile unit and hydraulic moulding machines also. Besides I live in an industrial city. More than 15000 industries within a periphery of 100 Kms. From nails to screws, textile, leather, plastic, rubber, silicon, packaging, saddlery, guns, tanks. You name anything it’s here.

Any thing to be made is possible. You design, I make , you sell. I become rich and buy my Lamborghini . Loooool.

Sorry guys I don’t want to buy Lamborghini I don’t want to sell anything in here. I want just learn and share ideas.

The Ebay seller of that device sells another supposedly ‘“better” version called the Minotaur. A few dollars more, but with free shipping which would make it a better deal. What do you think?

10-04-2014, 03:13 PM

money_man

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

The Ebay seller of that device sells another supposedly ‘“better” version called the Minotaur. A few dollars more, but with free shipping which would make it a better deal. What do you think?

Perfect ones on eBay just for 20 usd me a fool to buy x4.

10-04-2014, 03:20 PM

rootsnatty

Originally Posted by gekiro

I read a few pages of root’s thread and I think I somehow grasped it. Now the bottom line is, if you remember me from the other threads (I also have a progress log) do you think it is a good idea to switch to a stress relaxation extender ? It feels like I’m stuck at the same tension with mine and not gaining anything.

Gekiro, the effects of stress relaxation (the mechanism), or more accurately static progressive stretch (the method), have been shown to have a very efficient ability to elongate connective tissue permanently. More efficiently than creep-based traction, in fact. So I do think it would work slightly better as an extender design.

There is one important note: whether screw-based or spring-based, an extender is still an extender. Whichever method you use, you should expect to have to spend significant time in your extender. So while a spring-based extender might take 1000-2000 total hours to gain an inch, I wouldn’t expect the same results from a screw-based extender in 500 hours. Either method is all about maximizing time.

10-04-2014, 03:38 PM

rootsnatty

Originally Posted by money_man

I saw your home made extender. You are a genius it’s very good.

While I think not sure springs are missing and so after one point to increase tension it’s tough to screw more. As for in extenders with springs you can screw more just change springs of higher tension. I am not sure just a thought. But I think you extender is good. Now I need advice from you. You are putting a vaccum device. I also had connected my phallosan to my extender but due to water retention my frenulum tore and was bleeding. I am now afraid to try that again.

Can you tell me you experience and tell me what device you use and tell me about water retention and for how many hours you wear your extender.

The point of my device is precisely that it does not have springs. It is designed to stretch and hold, let the penile tissues relax, stretch a bit further and hold, and on and on.

I use a vac cap from Monkeybar. Vacuum is something you need to practice with. You need to get the vacuum level just right as to not cause blisters or edema but still strong enough that the cap will not slip. Edema and blisters can also be prevented through the use of glans wrapping, taping, or silicone constrictors/sleeves. I’ve never used the phallosan, so I can’t compare it to my vac cap, but I know the phallosan has a pump, so it is possible you pumped to too high a pressure.

10-04-2014, 09:35 PM

austfred

Originally Posted by gekiro

I read a few pages of root’s thread and I think I somehow grasped it. Now the bottom line is, if you remember me from the other threads (I also have a progress log) do you think it is a good idea to switch to a stress relaxation extender ? It feels like I’m stuck at the same tension with mine and not gaining anything.

I am one who made the switch from a spring based to non-sping based extender about a year after I started extending.

My view which is only based on my personal experience is that a spring based extender is probably best for starting out. You gradually build up tension and time in extender getting to know how your penis reacts to PE. During that time you will have also taken some breaks and noticed how you EQ reacts.

Once you have gone through this conditioning phase I would recommend a move to a non spring based extender like a slider both for the stress relaxation potential mentioned by Rootsnatty and for ease of use. But that is just a personal opinion.

10-04-2014, 11:31 PM

Ectospasm

Extender vs hanging-it seems the preferences line up according to beliefs, biases, maybe convenience. Could a rational argument be made for including both in a PE regimen?

10-04-2014, 11:37 PM

austfred

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

Extender vs hanging-it seems the preferences line up according to beliefs, biases, maybe convenience. Could a rational argument be made for including both in a PE regimen?

Yes I am thinking of trying a bit of hanging to complement extending and pumping. The issue for me is how to do it discretely.

10-05-2014, 01:28 AM

Ectospasm

Originally Posted by austfred

Yes I am thinking of trying a bit of hanging to complement extending and pumping. The issue for me is how to do it discretely.

I think the idea could lend itself well to designing a universal component, that is, the end piece, that could be fitted to both the extender rods and hanging apparatus. As far as the latter is concerned, time and descretion are indeed difficult. The only job I can think of where unusual movements and strange garments would blend right in would be a clown. Perhaps I’ll change professions to accomodate my new interest.

10-05-2014, 01:52 AM

rootsnatty

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

Extender vs hanging-it seems the preferences line up according to beliefs, biases, maybe convenience. Could a rational argument be made for including both in a PE regimen?

I think hanging and progressive static stretch (like Slider) can be combined easily as static progressive stretch doesn’t rely on a constant traction force. But I think spring-based extenders will become more and more ineffective as the hanging toughens the connective tissues, eventually becoming little more than complicated ADS’s.

10-05-2014, 06:54 AM

austfred

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

I think the idea could lend itself well to designing a universal component, that is, the end piece, that could be fitted to both the extender rods and hanging apparatus. As far as the latter is concerned, time and descretion are indeed difficult. The only job I can think of where unusual movements and strange garments would blend right in would be a clown. Perhaps I’ll change professions to accomodate my new interest.

I agree. A hinged device like a bib hanger could be engineered so it also works as a head piece for an extender. Might work better than the things we are currently using. I envisage something say made from stainless steel with a hinge on one side and a clamp screw on the other with soft inner jaws say made out of silicone or some sort of rubber. it would need holes on either side to fit the extender rods and a mounting point for hanging. Could it be built compact enough for concealment? I do not know.