Ron Wyden: situations, real and imagined. and these amendments are clear evidence. i don't know if the senator from new jersey sees it the same way. mr. menendez: i appreciate the senator from illinois's question and view. and, yes, look, that's why i said i respect the previous positions that senator mccain had.

Ron Wyden: he understood that you cannot solve this problem just by throwing more money, more troops att. at the end of the day, that has not achieved all of the goals despite enormous increases, and yet there are still challenges. so in the -- in view of the fact that the president himself -- something i personally don't

Ron Wyden: support but nonetheless has gone aheaand made a deployment on his own, it just seems to me that we should see what works before we advance billions for efforts and directing troops by an amendment when those troops could be needed for a whole host of things. i have to be honest with you, if