, and confucius sort of emerged inthisenvironmentandsaid, this can't be right. and it was a combination of let's go back to the origins and understand where we came from, this instinct to go back to how did all this begin and then also to sort of develop a kind of a provision for how to order society re rationally,cefully and of course confucius and taoism have radically different solutions. out of this original concept of sensing the oneness of human beings with each other and with nature the confucians came out in believing we need a government, we need an ordering of society, we need a benevolent but vertical set of relationships. whereas the taoists sort of emerged from this experience said, "that's part of the problem, in fact." human beings are trying to fix it and nature doesn't get fixed. you let nature be and if we're a part of nature, in a sense they became anarchists and the logical conclusion from the taoists is to go off into the woods and be by themselves. but in a sense nothing is - it's not a sort of like a confession where i'm a confucianist and i'm a taoists. there's a saying