#raspberrypi IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-12-12

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[0:00]<Gadgetoid> df is, not sure about vmstat[0:00]<Gadgetoid> Think it is[0:00]<TAFB> i ran vmstat, worked, memory free, used stuff[0:01]<TAFB> so do I restart ruby or somethin now?[0:01]<Gadgetoid> thin restart -C socket.yml[0:01]<TAFB> thin restart -C webstats.yml?[0:01]* XeCrypt is now known as Tuxuser[0:02]<TAFB> k. restarted[0:02]* cyclick2 (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[0:02]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick2[0:02]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-58-169-184-146.lns3.woo.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi[0:02]* PiBot sets mode +v Lord_DeathMatch[0:03]* TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[0:03]* MystX (~MystX@ec2-54-232-96-61.sa-east-1.compute.amazonaws.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[0:03]<TAFB> still no workie, remote or local :([0:04]<Gadgetoid> Yeah, still something up with the server![0:04]<TAFB> :([0:05]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[0:05]<TAFB> maybe you've got one of your ip address in socket. rb or socket.ru?[0:05]<Gadgetoid> Possibly![0:06]<Gadgetoid> try adding a log: line to the .yml file, prompt the blighter into creating a log file[0:06]<Gadgetoid> Also try thin stop -C webstats.yml[0:06]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi[0:06]* PiBot sets mode +v bertrik[0:06]<Gadgetoid> Followed by: rackup webstats.ru[0:06]* TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) has joined #raspberrypi[0:06]* PiBot sets mode +v TimRiker[0:06]<TAFB> k. I just put log: in the .yml, that's it?[0:06]* nickgaw (~nick@70-139-55-30.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:06]* PiBot sets mode +v nickgaw[0:07]<nickgaw> Hi, Why when I do espeak "testing raspberrypi" do I get jack server not running and no audio out of the analog port when a speaker is connected? I am using the latest raspbian image.[0:08]<bin_bash> maybe because jack isn't running?[0:08]<bin_bash> and the audio server you have set is jack?[0:08]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: probably log: tmp/webstats.log or something[0:08]<nickgaw> how do I change it to alsa which it should have been?[0:08]* cave (~cave@88-117-72-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[0:08]<TAFB> Gadget: rackup webstats.ru - /home/pi/Web/webstats.ru not found.[0:09]<TAFB> I got Socket.rb socket.ru and webstats.yml[0:09]<bin_bash> nickgaw, what program is trying to call jack[0:09]<Gadgetoid> D'oh! :D rackup socket.ru then[0:10]* brady2600 (~ludwig@71-218-252-109.hlrn.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[0:10]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) Quit ()[0:10]<TAFB> big list of stuff, starts with: home/pi/Web/socket.ru:3:in `block in <main>': uninitialized constant EventMachine (NameError)[0:10]<nickgaw> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused[0:10]<nickgaw> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream[0:10]<nickgaw> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:877:(snd1_pcm_direct_initialize_slave) slave plugin does not support mmap interleaved or mmap noninterleaved access[0:10]<nickgaw> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1030:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to initialize slave[0:10]<nickgaw> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory[0:10]<nickgaw> Cannot connect to server request channel[0:10]<nickgaw> jack server is not running[0:10]<ParkerR_> nickgaw, Pastebin[0:11]<bin_bash> ^[0:11]<ParkerR_> Pastee[0:11]<ParkerR_> Something[0:11]<bin_bash> use them.[0:11]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:11]* PiBot sets mode +v Syliss[0:11]<nickgaw> how do I use those services?[0:11]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: gem install eventmachine[0:11]<ParkerR_> http://pastebin.com/[0:12]<TAFB> Gadget: permission denied[0:12]<Gadgetoid> And maybe gem install eventmachine-websocket for good measure[0:12]<axion> you can safely ignore and pipe these errors to /dev/null, if just using alsa[0:12]<Gadgetoid> Ah, simon says :D[0:12]<TAFB> sudo gem install eventmachine?[0:12]<ParkerR_> TAFB, sudo[0:12]<TAFB> lol[0:12]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[0:12]<Gadgetoid> Yeah, bloomin' sudo![0:12]<nickgaw> it looks like ppulse audio but I want alsa how do I change it?[0:12]<bin_bash> sudo make me a sammich[0:12]<Gadgetoid> alias * sudo *?[0:12]<Gadgetoid> I'd run everything as root by default, just to make linux users cringe[0:12]<bin_bash> &ping[0:12]<TAFB> ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.[0:13]* bin_zsh (~bin_zsh@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) has joined #raspberrypi[0:13]* PiBot sets mode +v bin_zsh[0:13]<Gadgetoid> Drat, bet it's got some built-essential dependencies or something[0:13]<bin_bash> &pastebin[0:13]<Gadgetoid> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" yay[0:13]* enr1x (~kiike@81.60.137.75.dyn.user.ono.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[0:13]<bin_bash> do any of you know C++[0:13]<TAFB> running...[0:14]<bin_bash> like fluently[0:14]<TAFB> Gadget: build-essential is already the newest version.[0:14]* Eliatrope (~speckius@melforce.xtsubasa.org) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[0:14]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) has joined #raspberrypi[0:14]* PiBot sets mode +v mrcan[0:14]<ParkerR_> bin_bash, I want to start learning C soon[0:14]<bin_bash> I need someone who knows C++ fluentluy[0:14]<bin_bash> i need some help[0:15]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: curious, eventmachine must have other dependencies, but I don't know what they are![0:15]<TAFB> hmm[0:15]<bin_bash> &ping[0:15]<bin_zsh> ACK![0:15]<bin_bash> well at least it's responding now =/[0:16]* zyoung (~zyoung@wsip-68-106-159-26.hr.hr.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[0:16]<nickgaw> who setup the raspbian stuff not to work I have made no changes to alsamixer do I need to change anything or should it work out of the box?[0:17]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:17]<bin_bash> yeah, nickgaw. blame someone else.[0:18]<nickgaw> no I was just asking what the default is?[0:18]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi[0:18]* PiBot sets mode +v linuxstb[0:18]<TAFB> Gadget: http://pastebin.com/s6PCuReK[0:18]<Gadgetoid> Oo, gem install mkmf[0:18]<Nik05> anickgaw you can also compile it yourself ;) goodluck[0:18]<Gadgetoid> You'd think it would resolve these things automagically[0:19]<axion> using a 1-device distro instead of proven gnu/linux systems, and you are doomed to fail eventually[0:19]<TAFB> ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'mkmf' (>= 0) in any repository[0:19]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) has joined #raspberrypi[0:19]* PiBot sets mode +v mrcan[0:19]<TAFB> ERROR: Possible alternatives: mkrf[0:20]<nickgaw> so what do I need to do to either remove pulse or set alsa as the default?[0:20]<bin_bash> try removing pulse[0:20]<bin_bash> and then reinstalling it[0:20]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[0:20]<bin_bash> apt-get purge pulseaudio[0:21]* exobuzz (~buzz@2001:470:9773:0:6d88:36dc:90bc:7c8a) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[0:21]<Gadgetoid> Ah sorry TAFB: you need the -dev version of whatever Ruby you have installed[0:21]<Gadgetoid> So if 1.9.1 then: sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.1-dev[0:21]<Gadgetoid> Software is fun! ( not )[0:21]<TAFB> ok, I'll give it a go[0:22]<TAFB> it's installin[0:22]<axion> another debian fail. splitting upstream packages[0:22]* exobuzz (~buzz@2001:470:9773:0:9c55:670b:9c:6c60) has joined #raspberrypi[0:22]* PiBot sets mode +v exobuzz[0:22]<bin_bash> lolbian[0:22]<bin_bash> i am not a fan of debina tbqh[0:22]<Gadgetoid> Looks like I might have to write a more involved guide :D[0:22]<TAFB> says "installing 1.9.3.194-dev"[0:23]<TAFB> done[0:23]<TAFB> gadget: fo sho[0:23]<bin_bash> apt-get install pacman :P[0:23]<TAFB> you forgot sudo bin[0:23]<bin_bash> you should be using su.[0:24]<bin_bash> sudo is insecure[0:24]<ParkerR_> bin_bash, Never liked arch[0:24]<bin_bash> why not?[0:24]<ParkerR_> I dunno[0:24]<ParkerR_> Gotten so used to debian I guess[0:24]<axion> because it forces you to learn and make a rock solid system[0:24]<bin_bash> lol[0:24]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: hopefully eventmachine will install now![0:24]<TAFB> Gadget: do we need to uninstall the non-dev ruby?[0:24]<bin_bash> i think pacman is the best package manager[0:24]<ParkerR_> TAFB, No[0:24]<TAFB> okies[0:25]<axion> people just want gui (gooey?), quick, crashing, [mis]functionality[0:25]<TAFB> ok, here goes sudo gem install eventmachine[0:25]<ParkerR_> bin_bash, For a normal user sudo is not going to create any major security risks. On a bigger webserver maybe, but for just running a few elevated commands it is fine.[0:26]<bin_bash> ParkerR_, yeah i know. i use it on my local machine, but don't on my VPS'[0:26]<axion> yes it is[0:26]<bin_bash> I keep thinking you're saying "sudo gem install everything" TAFB lol[0:26]<ParkerR_> Haha[0:27]<bin_bash> i thought that seemed like a little much, tbqh[0:27]<bin_bash> so nobody here knows C++?[0:27]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[0:27]<TAFB> Gadget: It's taking a long time on "building native extensions" no errors right away like last time :)[0:27]<axion> i gave up C/++ some years ago[0:27]<TAFB> oh man, the freezing is wearing off in my knee :([0:27]<bin_bash> I need help ;.;[0:28]<ParkerR_> Hmm[0:28]<TAFB> I better crush up and sniff me some Oxy's :)[0:28]<bin_bash> LOL[0:28]<bin_bash> &quote add <TAFB> I better crush up and sniff me some Oxy's :)[0:28]<bin_zsh> New Quote Added[0:28]<TAFB> lol[0:29]<axion> kids these days. cant just be happy with ganj[0:29]<bin_bash> you guys can add quotes too[0:29]<bin_bash> using the same syntax[0:29]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-71-238-127-212.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:29]* PiBot sets mode +v thomashunter[0:29]<TAFB> so it'll paste that every time I join?[0:29]<bin_bash> no[0:29]<bin_bash> &quote las[0:29]<bin_zsh> Access Denied.[0:29]<bin_bash> &quote last[0:29]<bin_zsh> <TAFB> I better crush up and sniff me some Oxy's :)[0:29]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[0:29]<bin_bash> it's just the last quote in the file[0:29]<TAFB> ahh[0:29]<bin_bash> &quote count[0:29]<bin_zsh> I have 248 quotes.[0:30]<TAFB> should make it an on join post[0:30]<bin_bash> this bot doesnt do that[0:30]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[0:30]<axion> no bot should have events tied to anytthing but one or a few authenticated users[0:30]<TAFB> &quote TAFB[0:30]<bin_zsh> Access Denied.[0:30]* RaycisCharles is now known as RaycisWithChild[0:31]<bin_bash> &quote find TAFB[0:31]<bin_zsh> The following quotes match TAFB: 248[0:31]<TAFB> rofl?[0:31]<bin_bash> &quote 248[0:31]<bin_zsh> <TAFB> I better crush up and sniff me some Oxy's :)[0:31]<TAFB> ahhhh, i see[0:31]<bin_bash> some people have lots of quotes. so it wouldn't be prudent to output all of them[0:31]<TAFB> makes sense[0:31]<bin_bash> &quote fine bin_bash[0:31]<bin_zsh> Access Denied.[0:31]<axion> i foresee bot abuse[0:31]<bin_bash> &quote find bin_bash[0:31]<bin_zsh> The following quotes match bin_bash: 205, 208, 211, 213, 216, 221, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 236, 238, 247[0:32]<bin_bash> see?[0:32]<bin_bash> outputting that many would be spammy[0:32]<TAFB> &quote 232[0:32]<bin_zsh> <@bin_bash> You would suck off and swallow a horse's cum for $500,000? | <PoorCollegeGuy> yes[0:32]<TAFB> wow, good pick[0:32]<bin_bash> yeah some of these quotes are nsfw i'm just realizing[0:32]<Gadgetoid> Harrowing.[0:32]<bin_bash> maybe the bot should leave[0:32]<TAFB> rofl[0:33]<bin_bash> &part[0:33]* bin_zsh (~bin_zsh@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) has left #raspberrypi[0:33]<axion> umm, no bots are allowed without permission here[0:33]<shiftplusone> bin_bash, ...[0:33]<Gadgetoid> nsfw? Actually had a conversation remarkably similar to that with a bunch of work colleagues recently[0:33]<TAFB> Gadget, says 1 gem installed, installing documention now[0:33]<bin_bash> shiftplusone, I didn't realize those quotes were in there[0:33]<bin_bash> It just left[0:33]<bin_bash> it won't be returning[0:33]<TAFB> GADGET! INSTALL COMPLETE![0:33]<axion> people should read topics...twice[0:33]<ParkerR_> bin_bash, No PM support? :P[0:33]<Gadgetoid> Sanitize Quote Database[0:33]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: Hurrah, try rackup socket.ru aain[0:33]<bin_bash> ParkerR_, not for quotes. i could probably add it[0:33]<Gadgetoid> again*[0:34]<TAFB> OH NO! My Pi is doing sticky keys! :([0:34]<ParkerR_> ...[0:34]<Gadgetoid> It's a Pi??? what??? who!?[0:34]<Gadgetoid> Get the cat off the keyboard![0:34]<bin_bash> TAFB, sticky keys?[0:34]<TAFB> if I type like run it does rrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnn[0:35]<Gadgetoid> shift+runstop[0:35]<TAFB> maybe a VNC problem.. one moment, will restart session.[0:35]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-58-169-184-146.lns3.woo.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[0:35]<ParkerR_> Just SSH into it[0:35]<Gadgetoid> Use SSH, it's like VNC except 9000% more awesome[0:35]<ParkerR_> Much simpler :P[0:35]<TAFB> you guys and SSH[0:36]<Gadgetoid> Shhhh...[0:36]<TAFB> c'mon, I like that VNC keeps the Pi's CPU warm[0:36]<TAFB> I DO live in Canada ;)[0:36]<Gadgetoid> I spool up a virtual X session sometimes and VNC or X forward for giggles[0:36]<TAFB> Ok, trying rackup socket.ru[0:36]<axion> an X window can be shown over ssh, too[0:36]<axion> and it will make your pi even warmer :)[0:36]<Gadgetoid> Hurrah, Canada??? I almost emigrated there[0:37]* mod_eerf (~mod_eerf@unaffiliated/mod-eerf/x-1197477) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[0:37]<TAFB> you'd think if you went CD web but the folder was Web and there were no other folders, it would take you to Web. No?[0:37]<TAFB> Gadget: /home/pi/Web/socket.ru:3:in `block in <main>': uninitialized constant EventMachine (NameError)[0:38]<TAFB> http://pastebin.com/c6YudTi9[0:39]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: might be worth popping: require 'eventmachine' at the top of the .ru file[0:40]<TAFB> done, running rackup.[0:40]<TAFB> WORKS![0:40]<TAFB> >> Thin web server (v1.3.1 codename Triple Espresso)[0:40]<TAFB> >> Maximum connections set to 1024[0:40]<TAFB> >> Listening on 0.0.0.0:9292, CTRL+C to stop[0:41]* Delboy (~openwrt@141-136-220-69.dsl.iskon.hr) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[0:42]<Gadgetoid> Might be worth giving thin another punt now, and trying the HTML[0:42]<TAFB> okies, ctrl-c then what?[0:42]<Gadgetoid> thin start -C webstats.yml again[0:43]* ShiftPlusOne_pi (~pi@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) has joined #raspberrypi[0:43]* PiBot sets mode +v ShiftPlusOne_pi[0:43]<TAFB> ok, says Starting server on 192.168.1.95:8070 ...[0:43]<TAFB> then drops me at the shell.[0:43]<TAFB> doesn't appear the html is working :([0:44]<Gadgetoid> Curious, wonder why[0:44]<Gadgetoid> Any log file turned up?[0:45]* rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:45]<TAFB> yep, log file there now[0:45]<Gadgetoid> Progress![0:45]<TAFB> !! Unexpected error while processing request: undefined method `call' for EventMachine:Module[0:46]<TAFB> that's the last line of the file[0:46]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[0:47]<TAFB> every time I refresh my browser with the html page, it adds an extra of those lines to the file[0:47]<TAFB> so it's getting the request, woot :)[0:47]* Delboy (~openwrt@141-136-220-241.dsl.iskon.hr) has joined #raspberrypi[0:47]* PiBot sets mode +v Delboy[0:48]<Gadgetoid> Interesting![0:48]<mrhobbz> yay second pi's here[0:49]<TAFB> congrats![0:49]<mrhobbz> time to cook[0:49]<TAFB> big plans for it?[0:49]<mrhobbz> nah not yet, not quite sure what i want to do with it[0:49]<TAFB> only cook it in the oven if it's got bad solder joints ;)[0:49]<mrhobbz> i sure would like to build one of those picades on a slightly larger scale[0:50]* sphenxes (~sphenxes@91-119-210-114.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[0:50]* Opinie (~jay@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[0:50]* Orion_ (~Orion_@205.118.217.10) Quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~)[0:52]<mrhobbz> still need to draw up some plans for that one, and get around to building a step down circuit so i can use a single power source for pi and display[0:54]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has joined #raspberrypi[0:54]* PiBot sets mode +v kurtis_[0:54]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:54]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos[0:54]<bin_bash> bleh i wish i had someone to help me[0:54]<TAFB> is there a #c++ channel?[0:55]<kurtis_> so I just got my raspberry pi and I'm using an 8GB SD card. Installing rasbian works great, but when I run the EXPAND-ROOTFS and reboot, suddenly I can't ssh back ing to the pi card anymore (I'm doing everything headless atm)[0:55]<nahmaste> anyone familiar with cross compiling advancemame for the rpi?[0:55]<Gadgetoid> kurtis_: It's probably expanding the rootfs?[0:56]<TAFB> kurtis: It takes a long time to expand, and it'll reboot when it's done.[0:56]<mrhobbz> try #c++.se / #c++.basic[0:56]<Gadgetoid> Evident if you do it with a monitor attached, not so much when headless![0:56]<kurtis_> Gadgetoid: and TAFB oooooooooooooo[0:56]* luigy (~luigy@192.12.88.146) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:56]<kurtis_> how long should I let it sit?[0:57]<TAFB> you shouldn't be able to ping it while it's converting, but you can once it reboots[0:57]<TAFB> if on windows just run a ping -t 192.168.1.95 or whatever.[0:57]<mrhobbz> bin_bash: what did you need help with?[0:57]<bin_bash> I have these 3 c++ assignments due[0:57]<bin_bash> and i just want them to be over wiht[0:58]<bin_bash> http://root--servers.org/program8.txt && http://root--servers.org/program9.txt && http://root--servers.org/program10.txt[0:58]* luigy (~luigy@192.12.88.146) has joined #raspberrypi[0:58]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[0:58]<mrhobbz> ah, i might be able to answer *some* questions, i'm somewhat familiar with c++ but i've used a few languages with very similiar syntax[0:59]<TAFB> Gadget: I'm about to eat dinner. You want to VNC into this and poke around?[0:59]<kurtis_> TAFB: awesome, thanks for the help :)[1:00]<TAFB> no probs, good luck. My 32gb card took probably an hour or more.[1:00]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: got to kip, tis midnight here![1:00]<TAFB> so for you 8 possibly 15 mins :)[1:00]<mrhobbz> which part are you having trouble with bin_bash ?[1:00]* pansdr (~pansdr@unaffiliated/pansdr) has joined #raspberrypi[1:00]* PiBot sets mode +v pansdr[1:01]<TAFB> Gadget: Okie dokie. Don't have nightmares about my system. I might try re-imaging the card and starting fresh with -dev and load the gem and try it fresh.[1:01]<bin_bash> okay so this is the program I have done so far: https://pastee.org/7fx4j and this is the code my professor gave us for the chart: https://pastee.org/jb9ez[1:01]<bin_bash> I need to figure out how to incorporate his code into mine[1:01]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: I may try the same with my other Pi, as it's already fresh-ish[1:01]<TAFB> that'd be sweet[1:01]<TAFB> should just write the how-to as you go ;)[1:01]<Gadgetoid> Then I can throw together a guide, or a gem[1:01]<TAFB> woot woot[1:02]<Gadgetoid> As so many people ask about stats[1:02]* ParkerR_ is about to ask.[1:02]<ParkerR_> What is all this you are doing anyways?[1:02]<TAFB> make sure you don't skimp, we want those shiny looking percentage bars too![1:02]<Gadgetoid> ParkerR_: Just trying to get realtime system stats wrapped up into an easy-to-follow guide I suppose![1:03]* invisiblek (~invisible@unaffiliated/invisiblek) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:03]<rikkib> One hour to go before I pick up my sister ready to escort her down the isle and give her away.[1:03]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[1:03]<TAFB> Parker: check out his cool site: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/027-live-raspberry-pi-system-stats[1:03]<Gadgetoid> TAFB: Bootstrap CSS is responsible for those, they even smoothly transition when their values change, love 'em![1:03]<ParkerR_> Gadgetoid, Oh so system stats served up to a webpage?[1:03]<Gadgetoid> ParkerR_: Aye[1:03]<ParkerR_> Neat[1:03]<TAFB> Gadget: walk through on that ish too. looks pimpin[1:04]<Gadgetoid> Aye aye, will start tinkering on the morrow[1:04]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[1:04]<TAFB> I guess back to compiling quake3, I'll frag my frustration away :)[1:05]<TAFB> friggen love quake 3. used to just murder everyone at the lan parties :)[1:06]<steve_rox> everyone tryed that rpi radio transmitter hack yet?[1:06]<TAFB> works so sweet steve[1:06]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, Yes[1:06]<steve_rox> was somewhat impressed :-)[1:06]<ParkerR_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULk5JF_24HY[1:07]<steve_rox> just gotta wait for someone to refine it into a bigger prog of pupose now[1:07]* invisiblek (~invisible@unaffiliated/invisiblek) has joined #raspberrypi[1:07]* PiBot sets mode +v invisiblek[1:07]<TAFB> steve: need to build powerful booster so when I'm driving to work, everyone around me has to listen to my music :)[1:07]<steve_rox> excellent idea[1:07]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, Did you see the modified code that lets you choose a frequency?[1:07]<Gadgetoid> Open the pod bay doors, Siri[1:07]<steve_rox> i just used some default code i found on a page[1:07]<steve_rox> in other words probly now[1:07]<steve_rox> not[1:07]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/14k5o3/raspberry_pi_fm_transmitter_with_no_additional/c7efamt[1:08]<TAFB> 100.0 doesn't work good because I'm right beside a radio tower that's 99.9 :([1:08]<ParkerR_> TAFB, See code above[1:08]<ParkerR_> Extra parameter[1:08]<TAFB> I'll check it out, thanks :)[1:08]<ParkerR_> ./pifm sound.wav 100.5[1:08]<TAFB> dirty[1:08]<ParkerR_> I dont know how high or low it goes but[1:09]<steve_rox> wonder if they could improve the byte rate on source wav or make it play mp3 insted[1:09]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, The sampling rate can be changed in the code[1:09]<steve_rox> i dont exactly know python this is probly the first time i messed with it[1:10]<ParkerR_> "On line 126 of pifm.c you can change the "270" number to change the playback rate. (yes, it's a crazy hacky way to do play speed control, I know, but this is a proof of concept...)"[1:10]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, Naah the C code[1:10]<ParkerR_> No need for that python :P[1:10]<steve_rox> i dident give mine a antenna i just pointed radio at it ;-)[1:10]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Remember to replace the build.sh[1:11]<steve_rox> wonder what the max range is and if it can be significantly boosted[1:11]<ParkerR_> 50m[1:11]* akiwiguy|away is now known as akiwiguy[1:11]<ParkerR_> if you get a little wire attached to pin 4[1:11]* luigy (~luigy@192.12.88.146) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[1:11]<steve_rox> with a small wire antenna comeing off it?[1:11]<ParkerR_> Yep[1:11]<steve_rox> wow :-P[1:11]<steve_rox> what about if you made a fancy antenna with reflective propertys etc?[1:12]<ParkerR_> THE MOON![1:12]<ParkerR_> Hehe[1:12]<steve_rox> yayyyy[1:12]<steve_rox> hehehe[1:12]* luigy (~luigy@nat-alex-runet-out-7.rutgers.edu) has joined #raspberrypi[1:12]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[1:12]<steve_rox> wonder if the PI could recive the radio transmission[1:12]<steve_rox> a kinda crude wireless?[1:13]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, I thought you were saying some fancy word until I noticed you misspelled properties :P[1:13]<steve_rox> just a crazy thought[1:13]* Vanfanel (~Chuck@79.109.49.9.dyn.user.ono.com) Quit (Quit: leaving)[1:13]<steve_rox> suprise ;-)[1:13]<ParkerR_> :<[1:13]<ParkerR_> Surprise[1:13]<ParkerR_> :P[1:13]<steve_rox> hahahah[1:14]<steve_rox> lost my train of thought now[1:14]<ParkerR_> Sorry :)[1:14]<steve_rox> :-D[1:14]<steve_rox> gonna need some kinda wire to put onto pi that can thread thu case tiny hole[1:14]<pksato> steve_rox: rpi can recieve radio sinals, but need some help, a $20 DTV dongle, search for rtlsdr.[1:14]<steve_rox> ah[1:15]<steve_rox> is dtv digital or annalog?[1:15]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, Look for a small DC wall wart plug[1:15]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, (Digital)TV[1:15]<steve_rox> was thinking along them lines[1:15]<steve_rox> the pi is transmitting in annalog radio?[1:15]<ParkerR_> FM[1:15]<ParkerR_> Yes[1:16]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:16]* PiBot sets mode +v Quietlyawesome94[1:16]<steve_rox> agh my eyes hurt too much to stare at this display[1:17]<ParkerR_> steve_rox, You can complain when you have to do something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bO60i3ddc[1:17]<steve_rox> lets go build a huge mast out of old metal chairs and construct a radio station[1:18]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[1:18]<TAFB> when you compile quake3, do you get a lot of warnings? code/server/sv_client.c:237:13: warning: variable \u2018addrlen\u2019 set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable][1:18]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Yes all is good[1:18]<TAFB> okies :)[1:18]<steve_rox> all them sv cvars :-P[1:18]<TAFB> it's compiling :)[1:18]<steve_rox> i still use the source engine for some games and its full of the bloody things[1:19]<TAFB> I like the new Crysis 3. Never seen graphics like that :)[1:19]<ParkerR_> My garphics card breaks down just playing a video of Crysis 3.[1:19]<ParkerR_> JK[1:20]<ParkerR_> Heh[1:20]<TAFB> I gotta upgrade my graphics card a little for it, at 2560x1440 with everything as high as it'll go, it runs a little choppy in some spots.[1:20]<steve_rox> think i rember hearing about flaws in crysis engine , to the point they could exploit a client to display a picture of a bunny or something crazy[1:20]<TAFB> lol[1:20]<steve_rox> maybe a killer rabbit[1:21]<steve_rox> going to need the holy hand grenade[1:22]<TAFB> wow, compiling uses a lot of CPU :)[1:22]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:22]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[1:22]<TAFB> good thing it's at 1ghz :)[1:22]<ParkerR_> Heh[1:22]<steve_rox> has to be done[1:23]* TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) Quit (Quit: This space intentionally left blank)[1:23]<steve_rox> wonder how many years runtime it knocks off it if any[1:23]* Demp (f@unaffiliated/demp) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[1:23]<TAFB> the voltage is bumped a bit, so it must shorten it some[1:24]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[1:25]<steve_rox> that radio code stuff uses a lot of cpu useage[1:25]<pksato> Is possible, combining gpios (pwm), to generate complex RF singnal, like OFDM?[1:25]<TAFB> uh oh, my vnc just closed...[1:26]<TAFB> that's weird, just connected back in, everything is fine! *phew*[1:26]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has left #raspberrypi[1:26]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Why not just hook the Pi to a screen for now and use that? :P[1:27]<TAFB> the tv is plasma, I don't wannt burn ish in[1:27]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[1:27]* ShiftPlusOne_pi (~pi@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[1:27]<ParkerR_> Scrolling text :P[1:27]<TAFB> I can already see the raspberry logo in the middle of my TV, i'm hoping with some tv watching it'll go away :([1:28]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[1:28]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos[1:28]<ParkerR_> Heh[1:28]<TAFB> ahhh. it looked like the wireless dropped out for a few seconds, 6 lost packets on my test program.[1:28]* BurtyB (~chris@murphy1.8086.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[1:28]<TAFB> that's why vnc closed.[1:28]<steve_rox> burns my crt tv too but i think its a cheap thing , fades eventually[1:28]<ParkerR_> Wb Milos[1:29]<TAFB> no screen saver in x/lxde?[1:29]<TAFB> i disabled screen blanking ;)[1:29]<steve_rox> mines set to blank screen when idle for so long[1:31]<ParkerR_> :O 500mb of archives. Gotta love apt-get clean[1:31]<TAFB> never heard of apt-get clean![1:31]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:31]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos[1:32]<ParkerR_> Clears out /var/cache/apt/archives[1:32]<rikkib> Wed Dec 12 13:31:59 NZDT 2012 Time to put the glad rags on for the wedding at 3pm.[1:32]<TAFB> nice. Have you run: sudo ionice -c 3 fstrim -v /[1:32]<bin_bash> good luck![1:33]<ParkerR_> TAFB, What does it do?[1:33]<TAFB> clears all the junk space on your SD card.[1:33]<ParkerR_> Just space as in?[1:33]<ParkerR_> *Junk[1:33]<TAFB> for trash collection/wear levelling[1:34]<TAFB> no, on the actual SD card[1:34]<TAFB> not files and folders[1:34]<ParkerR_> "/: 3370287104 bytes were trimmed"[1:34]<TAFB> nice[1:34]* plugwash (~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::965) has joined #raspberrypi[1:34]* PiBot sets mode +v plugwash[1:35]<ParkerR_> What does it do in "cleaning"[1:35]<ParkerR_> ?[1:35]<TAFB> not sure what your question is?[1:35]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[1:35]<ParkerR_> If it's empty space then what does that do topt he empty space?[1:35]<ParkerR_> *to the[1:36]<TAFB> it's not really empty, because the file system has maked them deleted/not in use. That command tells the SD card that it's already used those spots once, so the SD card will use the least written blocks, that have never had anything in them.[1:37]<ParkerR_> Ahhh[1:37]<ParkerR_> I see now[1:37]<TAFB> it's freaky, I know[1:37]<TAFB> deleted space that's not really empty :)[1:37]<TAFB> freaky[1:37]<nahmaste> anyone notice that after doing apt-get update and upgrade to latest, theres 3 packages that were held back? apt-get dist-upgrade fixes it, but were they held back intentionally? will dist-upgrade break the latest raspbian?[1:37]<TAFB> did you do apt-get upgrade too?[1:38]<plugwash> what were the three packages? what exactly did dist-upgrade want to do?[1:38]<nahmaste> after doing apt-get update and upgrade[1:38]<ParkerR_> nahmaste, Naah[1:38]<ParkerR_> Just some packages will only update with dist-upgrade[1:38]* luigy (~luigy@nat-alex-runet-out-7.rutgers.edu) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[1:38]<nahmaste> plugwash: The following packages have been kept back:[1:38]<nahmaste> libmikmod2 lxsession wpasupplicant[1:38]<pksato> amazing, Pifm works.[1:39]<ParkerR_> pksato, :)[1:39]<TAFB> wpasupplicant: better not mess up my finely tuned wifi![1:39]<plugwash> and what exactly does/did dist-upgrade want to do[1:39]<nahmaste> plugwash: The following NEW packages will be installed:[1:39]<nahmaste> gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio hdparm libasound2-plugins libavcodec53 libavutil51 libdirac-encoder0 libfftw3-3 libgsm1 libjack-jackd2-0 libmp3lame0 libreadline5 libschroedinger-1.0-0 libspeex1 libspeexdsp1[1:39]<nahmaste> libsystemd-daemon0 libtheora0 libupower-glib1 libva1 libvpx1 libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 libx264-123 libxvidcore4 pm-utils powermgmt-base pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11[1:39]<nahmaste> pulseaudio-utils rtkit upower[1:39]<nahmaste> The following packages will be upgraded:[1:39]<nahmaste> libmikmod2 lxsession wpasupplicant[1:39]<ParkerR_> nahmaste, PASTEBIN[1:39]<ParkerR_> http://pastebin.com/[1:39]<Nik05> nice :P[1:39]<nahmaste> yes i know what pastebin is[1:40]<ParkerR_> Don't paste to the IRC channel[1:40]<TAFB> kick and ban KICK AND BAN![1:40]<TAFB> just kidding[1:40]<Nik05> dont use pastebin.com... use paste.debian.net or something[1:40]<TAFB> Nik: what's wrong with pastebin?[1:41]* shiftplusone has kicked TAFB (TAFB)[1:41]<shiftplusone> ...or whatever the kick message is.[1:42]* luigy (~luigy@nat-alex-runet-out-7.rutgers.edu) has joined #raspberrypi[1:42]* PiBot sets mode +v luigy[1:42]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[1:42]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[1:42]<Nik05> oh wait pastebin.com does work good...[1:43]<Nik05> maybe im confused withj anothjer thay really sucked[1:48]* alexBr (~alex@dslb-188-109-247-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[1:48]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120722203403])[1:50]<rikkib> 10 minutes and counting[1:50]<rikkib> The bridal car is ready...[1:54]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[1:54]* emilepet_ (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:54]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepet_[1:56]* Out`Of`Control (~Viper@unaffiliated/outofcontrol/x-1373891) Quit (Quit: Free Software, Free Hardware, Free Culture, Free Spectrum)[1:56]* wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)[1:58]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[1:58]<rikkib> Bye folks. Off to pick up my sister and give her away... Second marriage...[1:59]* BurtyB (~chris@murphy1.8086.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:59]* PiBot sets mode +v BurtyB[1:59]<buZz> enjoy![2:02]* bin_bash (~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[2:03]* felipealmeida (~user@mvx-187-16-79-187.mundivox.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[2:03]* emilepet_ (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[2:04]* nootrope (~nootrope@96.26.88.203) has joined #raspberrypi[2:04]* PiBot sets mode +v nootrope[2:05]* hyperair (hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) has joined #raspberrypi[2:05]* PiBot sets mode +v hyperair[2:06]* Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[2:09]* Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) has joined #raspberrypi[2:09]* PiBot sets mode +v Datalink[2:11]* PhotoJim (~Jim@devonport.ip4.photojim.ca) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[2:12]* jmadero (~joel@76.89.91.51) has joined #raspberrypi[2:12]* PiBot sets mode +v jmadero[2:12]<jmadero> hi all, is there a way for me to get on a newer release of XBMC on the Pi?[2:14]<jmadero> CelticTurnip: apparently food network problem is only on Pi, xbmc community says it works fine[2:14]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[2:21]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:22]* RaycisWithChild (RaycisChar@cpc20-lutn10-2-0-cust20.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit ()[2:23]* luigy (~luigy@nat-alex-runet-out-7.rutgers.edu) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:24]* mikey_w (~mike@c-71-63-115-202.hsd1.va.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[2:30]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:30]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos^[2:33]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A2E9.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[2:41]* mikey_w (~mike@c-71-63-115-202.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:41]* PiBot sets mode +v mikey_w[2:44]* redarrow (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[2:44]* AeroNotix (~xeno@ccn242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[2:44]* vergil66 (~vergil66@c-98-220-39-96.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:44]* PiBot sets mode +v vergil66[2:45]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss)[2:48]* blkhawk is now known as blkaway[2:50]* vergil66 (~vergil66@c-98-220-39-96.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: vergil66)[2:51]* FREDR1K (~gaahl@h252n3-aepv-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[2:51]* PiBot sets mode +v FREDR1K[2:52]* dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[2:52]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon_[2:55]* PhotoJim (~Jim@devonport.ip4.photojim.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[2:55]* PiBot sets mode +v PhotoJim[2:55]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[2:58]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[2:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Cykey[2:58]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)[3:03]* PiBot (~Raspberry@c-50-136-49-102.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[3:05]* bin_bash (~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) has joined #raspberrypi[3:06]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[3:08]* jimerickson (~jimericks@pdpc/supporter/active/jimerickson) has joined #raspberrypi[3:12]* wabow (~wadebower@cpe-65-24-200-143.insight.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[3:14]* wabow (~wadebower@cpe-65-24-200-143.insight.res.rr.com) has left #raspberrypi[3:16]<ParkerR_> TAFB, How's the build going?[3:19]<mrhobbz> that reminds me, i need to check on my raspbian build[3:19]* zarubin (~stas@37.229.255.176) has joined #raspberrypi[3:22]<TAFB> Parker: All done compiling, put in the .pak files in the baseq3 folder (the instructions on the web were horrible for that part). But same problem as pre-compiles, just reboots when I run it.[3:24]* Orion_ (~Orion_@199.30.184.192) has joined #raspberrypi[3:24]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[3:25]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[3:25]<Grievar> raspbian emulates floating point unnecessarily, right?[3:25]<Grievar> er, rather, it emulates floating point despite the chip having native FP support?[3:25]<nickgaw> after I purge and reinstall pulseaudio should I also install jackd? espeak says jackd not running.[3:27]<plugwash> umm the whole point of raspbian is it DOESN'T do that[3:27]* deffrag_ (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) has joined #raspberrypi[3:27]* deffrag (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[3:28]* IT_Sean (~sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has joined #raspberrypi[3:28]* ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean[3:29]<nickgaw> well espeak is not going out of the analog out and I am not sure what else could be going on as I did connect an analog speaker to the analog out but when connected to the raspberrypi on ssh I get lots of messages about jackd not running.[3:30]<Essobi> So start jackd? :D[3:30]<plugwash> BTW my previous message was in response to Grievar, sorry if I was confusing[3:30]<nickgaw> after it is installed will it automatically start on reboot?[3:30]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:31]<Grievar> plugwash: Oh ok[3:31]<Grievar> plugwash: Oh it's /regular/ debian that does?[3:32]<ParkerR_> TAFB, D:[3:32]<ParkerR_> Oh noes[3:32]<TAFB> yeah :([3:33]<TAFB> i un-over clocked it, removed my wifi, tried everything[3:33]<plugwash> Debian armel uses software floating point and the soft float abi and has a minimum CPU requirement of armv4t. It will run on the Pi but won't take advantage of the floating point hardware (and a few other minor architectural improvements).[3:33]<plugwash> Debian armhf uses hardware floating point and the hard float ABI but has a minimum CPU requirement of armv7-a so it will not run on the Pi.[3:34]<nickgaw> what happens if you try to run it?[3:34]<plugwash> I haven't actually tried it but I imagine init would crash with a SIGILL and cause the kernel to panic[3:34]<plugwash> Raspbian uses hardware floating point and the hard float ABI and has lowered minimum CPU requirements so it will run on the Pi[3:35]<nickgaw> does the default raspbian image support analog audio out of the box?[3:35]<Grievar> plugwash: Does debian armel somehow prevent userland apps from using the hardware floating point instructions (if they try to do so)?[3:36]<Grievar> plugwash: you would of course have to make your own gcc in order to do that[3:36]<TAFB> nick: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/44/why-is-my-audio-sound-output-not-working[3:36]<TAFB> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Sound_does_not_work_at_all.2C_or_in_some_applications[3:37]<plugwash> Grievar, userland apps can be built use hardware floating point instructions under debian armel (and you don't have to recompile gcc to do it just use something like "-march=armv6 -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp") what they can't do is use the hard float ABI[3:38]<jmadero> why does the food network plugin work fine on my laptop but fails on the pi?[3:38]<plugwash> which means that for every procedure call involving floating point they have to shunt stuff around between vfp registers and integer registers[3:38]<Grievar> plugwash: Oh I see[3:38]<Grievar> plugwash: Oh I just realized[3:39]<Grievar> plugwash: The kernel probably doesn't save floating point registers on interrupt does it?[3:40]* Orion_ (~Orion_@199.30.184.192) Quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~)[3:41]<plugwash> Afaict kernels for hardware that has floating point units basically always know how to deal with floating point registers correctly. The Pi kernel certainly does.[3:42]<Grievar> plugwash: I mean the debian armel kernel[3:42]<Grievar> not the raspbian kernel[3:43]<plugwash> Well you won't be running anything on a Pi with a kernel from debian but I would expect their kernels for hardware that has FPUs to know how to handle their floating point registers correctly.[3:44]<plugwash> running with hardware floating point but the soft float abi is a fairly common thing to do afaict.[3:44]<nickgaw> ok I looked at that page but still no luck. After typing in amixer cset numid=3 or 1 all I get are values for the different interfaces is this normal or do I need to change the value then go into alsamixer and turn up the volumes?[3:44]<plugwash> note that linux kernels have a trick so that they only save the FPU registers if an app actually uses them[3:46]<Grievar> plugwash: how does it tell if it uses them?[3:46]* alexkane_ (~alex@pool-108-54-26-150.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[3:47]<plugwash> iirc when the app first runs the floating point unit is disabled, the first time an app tries to use it the processor hits an illegal instruction trap pushing exeuction into the kernel[3:47]<Grievar> ah[3:47]<plugwash> which then enables the floating point unit, enables saving the floating point registers and passes control back to the app[3:48]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[3:50]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has joined #raspberrypi[3:50]<kurtis_> has anyone had any experience with setting up an NX server on their raspberry pi?[3:53]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi[3:55]* jmadero (~joel@76.89.91.51) has left #raspberrypi[3:55]<pksato> my rpi temporary setup, with usb power bridge https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-npSo21SNdNc/UMfxWHmKOcI/AAAAAAAAB1Y/MwPg8EbOY9c/s800/rpi_usb_power_bridge.jpg[3:56]<TAFB> nice, lookin connected :)[3:56]<nickgaw> do you think reflashing my sd card would fix this problem with no audio working?[4:01]* PhotoJim (~Jim@devonport.ip4.photojim.ca) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[4:01]* ozymandias__ (~josephby@24.246.89.4) Quit (Quit: ozymandias__)[4:01]* jmontleon (~jmontleon@redhat/jmontleon) has joined #raspberrypi[4:06]* PhotoJim (~Jim@devonport.ip4.photojim.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[4:06]<Essobi> pksato: Are you powering the rpi from the hub? the wiring is a bit confusing in the pic. :D[4:07]<pksato> no.[4:08]<pksato> Need a color full cables.[4:08]<Essobi> Or better layout in the pic. :D[4:09]<pksato> RPi PW label is only a 5V, came from power 5V 2A[4:10]<Essobi> pksato: Ah.[4:11]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[4:11]<pksato> and, usb cable from rpi dont have power connected.[4:12]<pksato> data pins and gnd are connected to inner usb connector. And goes to HUB.[4:13]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[4:14]* Larry94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[4:15]* nid0 (nidO@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-17.interdsl.co.uk) Quit ()[4:15]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[4:15]* Larry94 is now known as Quietlyawesome94[4:16]* IT_Sean (~sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: Off)[4:17]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has left #raspberrypi[4:17]* mrhobbz (~mrhobbz@87.f.de.static.xlhost.com) Quit (Quit: leaving)[4:19]<Essobi> pksato: Ah.. got a single input and wired to the hub and the RPI? Cool.[4:19]* mrhobbz (~mrhobbz@87.f.de.static.xlhost.com) has joined #raspberrypi[4:21]* rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) has joined #raspberrypi[4:21]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[4:28]* tripleXXX (~bizarro_1@80.30.232.243) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[4:30]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[4:30]<mrhobbz> my sd card must be horrendously slow[4:30]<mrhobbz> hehe[4:30]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[4:31]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[4:32]* thomashunter (~thomashun@c-71-238-127-212.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: thomashunter)[4:33]<Essobi> mrhobbz: Test it?[4:36]<mrhobbz> can't just yet, still installing raspbian on it[4:36]<mrhobbz> i know it's a slower card generally anyway[4:36]<Essobi> Ah.[4:37]<cyclick2> cancel install and test it[4:39]<pksato> Essobi: Yes, basicaly I made a usb power split cable (Y).[4:39]<nootrope> nickgaw did you add your user to the audio group?[4:39]<Essobi> Cool.[4:47]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: 'Unix is a computer virus with a user interface.' - The UNIX-HATERS Handbook.)[4:48]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@50.115.106.250) has joined #raspberrypi[4:48]* plugwash (~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::965) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[4:54]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[4:59]* ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away[5:02]* inheritedclass (~inherited@adsl-75-52-75-238.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:04]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) has joined #raspberrypi[5:06]* Larry94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:07]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[5:09]<pksato> overclock and compiling some stuff, temp=60.0'C[5:11]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:11]* Larry94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[5:12]<axion> thats not too high[5:14]* Larry94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:14]<ParkerR_> Heh[5:14]<ParkerR_> Mine's never been over 50[5:14]<ParkerR_> Overclocked to 800[5:15]<pksato> ambient temperature is ~30c[5:15]* bschwab (~bryan@c-67-188-153-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:15]<ParkerR_> Idles at about 37[5:16]<axion> when running at 1000 for a while, mine will reach 60-63, but still stable. when it hits 65 i have it underclock to 500[5:16]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[5:17]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:20]* Larry94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[5:20]* TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) Quit (Disconnected by services)[5:20]* [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) has joined #raspberrypi[5:22]<mrhobbz> how are you guys checking your temp? i thought the pi didn't have an onboard temp sensor[5:23]<axion> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp[5:24]* Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[5:27]* yofel_ (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) has joined #raspberrypi[5:27]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[5:30]* PiBot (~Raspberry@c-50-136-49-102.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[5:30]* ChanServ sets mode +o PiBot[5:31]* yofel (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[5:32]* intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) Quit (Quit: intothev01d)[5:32]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) Quit ()[5:37]* jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) has joined #raspberrypi[5:37]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[5:37]* nickgaw (~nick@70-139-55-30.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.10.1 -- Are we there yet?)[5:41]* nootrope (~nootrope@96.26.88.203) has left #raspberrypi[5:42]* Quietlyawesome94 (~chatzilla@adsl-074-184-089-183.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120722203403])[5:43]<ParkerR_> http://www.elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage[5:45]* Opinie (~Opinie@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) Quit (Quit: Opinie)[5:52]<Essobi> Where's that sensor acutally at? In the broadcom die?[5:54]* asd (~asd@p54BA5871.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[5:55]<ParkerR_> Essobi, I assume[5:55]<ParkerR_> *I would assume so[5:56]* alexkane_ (~alex@pool-108-54-26-150.nycmny.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: alexkane_)[5:56]<axion> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/type[5:56]* roasted (ad43a2a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.67.162.166) has joined #raspberrypi[5:56]* PiBot sets mode +v roasted[5:56]<axion> bcm2835_thermal[5:56]<roasted> hello![5:56]<axion> in the SoC[5:57]<axion> if you want a more precise reading, do: cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp[5:57]<roasted> Question - when you're transferring stuff from one USB drive to another, what would be the lowest bottleneck? I tried transferring data from one USB drive to another and it gave me like 700 KB/s. I put both in my desktop (granted, it's an i3 rig) and I'm getting about 20 MB/s.[5:57]<roasted> Was it the proc limiting me? Top didn't look THAT bad...[6:02]<dipstick> how much trouble would it be to ship my pi back for a warrenty replacement claimed as doa?[6:03]<cyclick2> dipstick, do you mean how long, because how much trouble is relative[6:04]<dipstick> I guess[6:05]<mdim> what OS do you recommend if I want to run XBMC on RPi?[6:06]* iamtheric (~iamtheric@c-71-204-248-183.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:06]* PiBot sets mode +v iamtheric[6:06]* damo22 (~damo22@210.4.229.110) has joined #raspberrypi[6:06]* PiBot sets mode +v damo22[6:06]<damo22> does anyone know if USB dwc_otg is fixed or improved recently?[6:06]* pretty_function (~iHackiOS@61.12.96.10) has joined #raspberrypi[6:06]* PiBot sets mode +v pretty_function[6:07]* asd (~asd@p54BA480A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:07]* PiBot sets mode +v asd[6:07]<damo22> i have a feeling it is to blame for the poor crackling sound quality in my headset[6:08]<cyclick2> mdim, http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi ... I tried all on this page and had some issues with all of them but they worked[6:08]<cyclick2> damo22, https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/128#issuecomment-11158087[6:10]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Quit: *pouf*)[6:12]* alexkane_ (~alex@user-108738h.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #raspberrypi[6:12]* PiBot sets mode +v alexkane_[6:13]<damo22> cyclick2: i dont think this is the same issue i am experiencing, i am using a usb headset, not the onboard sound at all[6:13]<damo22> i believe there is an inherent problem in the dwc_otg usb controller driver[6:14]<roasted> is it possible that using compression with rsync is enough to bring an rpi to its knees?[6:15]* markbook (~markllama@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[6:15]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[6:15]<cyclick2> damo22, maybe not, sorry[6:15]<damo22> i tried with a few different usb sound cards and they all crackle, even one i developed my own quirk patch for that works flawlessly under other usb controllers[6:16]* pecorade (~pecorade@host143-251-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[6:16]<mdim> cyclick2: I have Arch Linux ARM right now, but the version of XBMC it comes with seems very buggy[6:16]<mdim> and I can't get full hd playing[6:16]<mdim> when I press play, all I get is a blank screen[6:16]<axion> check the xbmc log[6:16]<Essobi> roasted: could push a marginal adapter over the edge with increased amp usage.[6:16]<axion> it works fine here on Arch[6:17]<roasted> Essobi: not sure I follow. In plain english you're referencing it would... casue the adapter stress and thereby underpower the pi?[6:18]<mdim> axion: what additional codecs did you install?[6:19]<mdim> I guess it has something to do with codes[6:19]<Essobi> roasted: yes. How many amps is your adapter? additional USB hardware?[6:19]<Essobi> roasted: test TP1/TP2 under load?[6:19]<roasted> Essobi: iirc, each adapter is 5v, 550mA, 650mA[6:20]<roasted> Essobi: haven't tested anything... don't have a meter handy.[6:20]<roasted> I just noticed rsync transfers sucked so I moved it to my desktop to do the job and saw the substantially faster speeds.[6:20]<roasted> with rsync being a lighter transfer protocol I was confused over why it was so bad on the pi[6:20]<Essobi> roasted: You need 750mA minimum.[6:20]<roasted> oh shit?[6:20]<Essobi> Yes.[6:21]<roasted> let me power them off and check the adapters...[6:21]<Essobi> If you add any USB you need more.[6:21]<roasted> I thought I read 550[6:21]<roasted> oh no kidding?[6:21]<axion> mdim: none[6:21]<Essobi> Yup.[6:21]<roasted> now the USB drives are self powered, does that matter?[6:21]<Essobi> "self powered"?[6:21]<mdim> axion: any additional settings in xbmc or was it out-of-box?[6:21]<roasted> Essobi: they have their own AC power.[6:21]<roasted> Essobi: they don't rely on the Pi's USB ports for power like some external HDD's do[6:21]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[6:22]<Essobi> They will still use a small amount. Likely 50mA to 100mA.[6:22]<roasted> Essobi: ah okay.[6:22]<roasted> so it DOES matter.[6:22]<roasted> either way[6:22]<Essobi> Yup.[6:22]<roasted> powering them off now to check[6:22]<Essobi> I use the iPhone wall adapter. 1000mA.[6:22]<axion> mdim: xbmc settings arent going to fix a black screen. its hard to diagnose the problem without giving more info on what it says[6:22]<Essobi> I need to hit the road..[6:22]<axion> but yes, i do use a custom xml file to speed it up[6:22]<roasted> I'm using adapters from cell phones[6:23]<roasted> my old LG Optimus T and my current HTC Incredible[6:23]<mdim> it happens when it's mpeg4 video[6:23]<roasted> 5v, 0.7a for one[6:23]<roasted> 5v, 1a for the other[6:24]<mdim> axion: can you share that xml file?[6:24]<axion> there are many kinds of mpeg4 video. more info[6:24]<axion> sure[6:24]<roasted> it was using the one on 0.7a for the rsync transfer[6:24]<mdim> axion: what should I be looking for?[6:25]<damo22> i think it would be nice to power the pi from the same hub that shares ports to it[6:25]<axion> mdim: ~/.xbmc/user/advancedsettings.xml: http://codepad.org/78NO0MSY[6:25]<mdim> and I think I have to get a heat sink because RPi froze yesterday after about 15hrs of xbmc[6:25]* alexkane_ (~alex@user-108738h.cable.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: alexkane_)[6:25]<roasted> I'm planning on running both of my pi's next to each other. I'm trying to find an adapter that has 2 USB ports that provide 5v/1a each.[6:25]<damo22> ie plug the power cord of the pi into the same hub[6:26]<damo22> how do you turn the hub on then[6:26]<axion> mdim: sorry place in ~/.xbmc/userdata/[6:26]<roasted> damo22: I don't have a hub.[6:26]<roasted> damo22: my hard drives have their own independent power supplies.[6:26]<axion> mdim: paste xbmc log and config.txt[6:27]<roasted> damo22: wall - power cord - hdd - usb - pi[6:27]<roasted> just be nice to power each pi off of the same brick[6:27]* Jibual (~Jibual@69-26-152-140.mt9.aerioconnect.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:27]* PiBot sets mode +v Jibual[6:27]<damo22> sorry i meant if one powers a pi from a hub and uses the same hub to share ports with the pi, how would one turn on the hub?[6:27]<mdim> axion: I couldn't find the log in /var/log[6:27]<roasted> I have to admit, I'm completely lost damo22[6:28]<Jibual> Hi, I am trying to aptitude install pcsc-tools, but I get the error Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main libxml2 armhf 2.8.0+dfsg1-6[6:28]<Jibual> 404 Not Found[6:28]<Jibual> the main rasperian mirror only hasa ibxml2_2.8.0+dfsg1-7_armhf.deb[6:28]<damo22> roasted: imagine this: plug power into a usb hub, plug the usb sharing end of the hub into the pi, and the pi[6:28]<pksato> Jibual: run aptitude update[6:28]<Jibual> .8.0+dfsg1-6[6:28]<Jibual> okay let m update[6:29]<damo22> 's power supply into the hub[6:29]<axion> mdim: ~/.xbmc/temp/xbmc.log[6:29]<damo22> then technically you only need one psu to power everything[6:30]<damo22> only problem is, how do you turn on the hub since it needs a computer to be on in the first place, possibly soldering a jumper?[6:30]<mdim> axion: once again, where do I put that xml?[6:30]<roasted> damo22: true, assuming the USB port powering the Pi puts out enough power.[6:30]<roasted> Speaking of which, can you OVER power a Pi?[6:30]<roasted> I have a 5.1v/2a adapter here for an iPad I just dug up...[6:30]<damo22> what do you mean?[6:31]<damo22> you can plug it into 100A @ 5v[6:31]<damo22> it only draws as much as it needs[6:31]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[6:31]<roasted> so I won't zap the damn thing if I plug in to 5.1/2a?[6:31]<pksato> need a usb power "wall", with dozen of usb connectors.[6:31]<damo22> i just need a way to power my pi and usb hub with one psu[6:32]<damo22> so i am only limited in what i can draw from usb by the psu[6:32]<axion> mdim: you save it as ~/.xbmc/userdata/advancedsettings.xml[6:32]* iamtheric (~iamtheric@c-71-204-248-183.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[6:32]<mdim> axion: even though there is no such file ATM?[6:33]<axion> mdim: thats ok[6:33]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)[6:34]<Jibual> Does anyone know if there is documentation on getting openvz to run on the raspberry pi ?[6:35]<Jibual> and thanks pksato, but that worked[6:35]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[6:35]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick[6:36]* Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk[6:37]<dipstick> this sucks, I have no idea how I'm gonna fix my pi, replacement or replace damaged part...[6:39]<mdim> axion: it's not even working with h264[6:39]<mdim> ok, let me paste logs somewhere[6:40]* cyclick2 (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[6:40]<mdim> axion: I can see this line: ERROR: COMXCoreComponent::DecoderEventHandler OMX.broadcom.video_decode - OMX_ErrorInsufficientResources, insufficient resources[6:40]<axion> buy another, and you'll have replacement parts[6:41]<mdim> axion: it's a model b rpi[6:41]* rrhb (~sendhb@24.19.27.111) has joined #raspberrypi[6:41]<dipstick> spend another 45 bucks? I'd rather not spend it if I don't have to.[6:41]* PiBot sets mode +v rrhb[6:41]* Milos_ is now known as Milos[6:41]<axion> mdim: sounds like your memory split is not great for xbmc playback[6:42]<mdim> axion: is there anything I can do about it?[6:42]<axion> paste config.txt somewhere[6:42]<mdim> axion: where's that?[6:43]<axion> uhhh go back to square one[6:43]<mdim> I don't see it anywhere in ~/.xbmc[6:43]* markbook (~markllama@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[6:44]<axion> the rpi config on your boot[6:44]<damo22> http://imagebin.org/239004 This is what im talking about....[6:46]<mdim> axion: http://pastebin.com/5nywTzfX[6:47]<axion> mdim: you need to read the config.txt elinux page and set your gpu's memory[6:48]<damo22> i would have thought the pi was designed for the above[6:48]<damo22> i just need a hub that works like this[6:48]<mdim> axion: any preconfiguration for the b model available?[6:49]<axion> say what?[6:49]<damo22> is anyone running a pi plus usb hub in the fashion according to my pic?[6:51]* zarubin (~stas@37.229.255.176) Quit ()[6:52]<axion> damo22: i am[6:52]<damo22> axion: how did you make the hub switch on?[6:53]<axion> it always stays on[6:53]<axion> by plugging it in[6:53]<damo22> axion: which brand/model hub do you have and how many amps is it?[6:53]* Demp (f@unaffiliated/demp) has joined #raspberrypi[6:53]* PiBot sets mode +v Demp[6:54]<damo22> mine doesnt turn on until usb is detected[6:54]<damo22> :([6:55]<axion> Koutech IO-HU1311 (4Amps)[6:55]<damo22> NICE!![6:56]<axion> i have an uptime of 44 days with it :)[6:57]<mdim> axion: did you get a heat sink for Rpi? xbmc keeps it almost at 100% all the time[6:59]<axion> mdim: leave xbmc running for a few hours. it is using the bcm2835 to cache every image in a format specific to the pi's gpu[6:59]<damo22> axion: do you know if they make a smaller one with only 7 ports[6:59]<axion> this is common xbmc knowledge...not a bug[6:59]<axion> damo22: no clue[7:00]<damo22> http://www.koutech.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=581 wonder if this is any good[7:01]<axion> mdim: you can see that it is doing that if you type: watch ~/.xbmc/temp/xbmc.log[7:02]<axion> errr[7:02]<axion> sorry[7:03]<axion> watch cat ~/.xbmc/temp/xbmc.log[7:03]* nplus (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/simont) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[7:04]<axion> better make that tail instead of cat[7:05]<damo22> cat o9 |tail[7:05]* nplus (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/simont) has joined #raspberrypi[7:05]* PiBot sets mode +v nplus[7:05]<axion> huh?[7:05]<damo22> bad joke[7:05]<ParkerR_> Hahaha[7:06]<axion> oh haha[7:06]<ParkerR_> Cat of 9 tails[7:06]<mdim> axion: I can see what that?[7:06]<mdim> (I'm configuring /boot/config.txt)[7:06]<axion> mdim: you said your xbmc was using cpu. that will show you what it is doing behind the scenes (caching a bazillion images)[7:06]<ParkerR_> damo22, Ahh so you much be the S&M guy[7:06]<ParkerR_> *must[7:07]<damo22> ParkerR_: i have no clue what you're talking about[7:07]<ParkerR_> Google it :P[7:07]<mdim> axion: oh, I see[7:07]<damo22> no fanks[7:09]<damo22> i could use a koutech, they look good, wonder if i can get a AU model psu for it[7:09]<damo22> just dig up a 4A 5V transformer i guess[7:10]<axion> not sure but i have 2 of them...they are good[7:10]<damo22> the mere fact they turn on when power is applied is the factor in my decision[7:11]<damo22> rather than waiting for usb to activate[7:11]<axion> i am running pi, 2 gamepads, wifi, keyboard/mouse receiver, sata bri with an SSD, and a 3.5" hdd[7:11]<axion> maybe more haha[7:11]<damo22> good shit![7:12]<axion> language[7:12]<axion> sata bridge rather[7:12]<damo22> sorry[7:13]<ParkerR_> My Pi is currently serving up and image gallery http://minecrafted.mooo.com/[7:13]<ParkerR_> s/and/an.[7:13]<mdim> axion: funny, even though I did "/opt/vc/bin/tvservice -d edid.dat" for my monitor, and set it to preferred setting for my monitor (1920x1080p), all I get is 640x480[7:13]<ParkerR_> *s/and/an/[7:13]<ParkerR_> I cannot type today[7:15]<mdim> axion: gosh, I was in safe mode :)[7:15]<axion> is your console in 1920?[7:16]<axion> i never messed with tvservice...all you need is the right lines in config.txt for your particular tv[7:16]<mdim> axion: it is now that I commented out the safe mode line :)[7:16]<ParkerR_> Haha[7:16]<mdim> axion: and I can find out that with the tvservice[7:16]<axion> hahahaha[7:17]<damo22> axion: does it charge iThings?[7:17]<ParkerR_> I keep all unnecessary lines out of config.txt (besides for a little ascii art to spruce it up) http://pastebin.com/iFnvVYxC[7:18]* Jibual (~Jibual@69-26-152-140.mt9.aerioconnect.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[7:18]<ParkerR_> The raw shows the art a bit better http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iFnvVYxC[7:18]* RaTTuS (~Rattus.bi@80.4.146.163) has joined #raspberrypi[7:18]* PiBot sets mode +v RaTTuS[7:19]* chithead (~chithead@gentoo/developer/chithanh) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[7:19]<axion> damo22: i would not know[7:19]* chithead (~chithead@gentoo/developer/chithanh) has joined #raspberrypi[7:19]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[7:19]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[7:19]* PiBot sets mode +v chithead[7:20]<ParkerR_> damo22, Would most likely need a hub for that. iDevices tend to have high power draws[7:20]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[7:20]<DarkTherapy> morning all[7:20]<axion> ghe is referring to a hub[7:20]<damo22> ParkerR_: yes was referring to a particular hub[7:20]<ParkerR_> Ahh[7:21]<damo22> ParkerR_: i want to hook up my pi like this: http://imagebin.org/239004[7:21]<mdim> axion: ok, still insufficient resources. Should I give more memory to GPU?[7:21]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:21]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:21]* biberao (~Unknown@unaffiliated/biberao) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[7:21]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:21]* biberao (~Unknown@unaffiliated/biberao) has joined #raspberrypi[7:21]* PiBot sets mode +v biberao[7:21]<ParkerR_> damo22, If you have a v2 Pi you can do just that[7:21]<axion> mdim: at least 128 for full hd in xbmc[7:21]* RaTTuS|BIG (~Rattus.bi@80.4.146.163) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[7:21]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:21]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:21]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:22]<damo22> ParkerR_: yes but i need a hub that turns on regardless of usb connectivity[7:22]<ParkerR_> I thought most did[7:22]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:22]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:22]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:22]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[7:22]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P[7:22]<damo22> ParkerR_: not mine[7:22]<ParkerR_> Aww, weird[7:22]<axion> i have never seen one that doesnt either[7:22]<damo22> we live in a backward country[7:22]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:22]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:22]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:23]<mdim> axion: should I set the gpu_mem parameter or gpu_mem_512?[7:23]<damo22> technologically speaking[7:23]<mdim> ok, gpu_mem_512[7:23]<axion> gpu_mem[7:23]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:23]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:23]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:23]<axion> gpu_mem=128[7:23]<mdim> it says that gpu_mem_512 overrides gpu_mem[7:23]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:23]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:23]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:24]<axion> yes it is for if you are using the same config for multiple pi versions[7:24]<mdim> axion: yeah, I see the reasoning[7:26]<axion> movie bbl...good luck[7:28]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) Quit ()[7:28]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[7:30]<mdim> ok, it's kind of working :)[7:30]<mdim> the problem that I have now is that the screen detection happens every few seconds[7:30]* acfrazier (~acfrazier@opensn0w/developer/acfrazier) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[7:30]<mdim> so I get a short black out every now and then[7:31]* atouk (~atouk@ool-457e23d5.dyn.optonline.net) Quit ()[7:34]* xrosnight (~alex@112.234.15.133) has joined #raspberrypi[7:34]* PiBot sets mode +v xrosnight[7:34]* acfrazier (~acfrazier@opensn0w/developer/acfrazier) has joined #raspberrypi[7:34]* PiBot sets mode +v acfrazier[7:34]* Mr_Sheesh_AFK (~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054) has joined #raspberrypi[7:34]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_Sheesh_AFK[7:34]<xrosnight> hello . I am going to order one. Is RS-online's raspberry Pi all made in China ???? :$[7:35]<TAFB> your chances are strong[7:35]<ParkerR_> The one I got through Newark on the 27th is made in Chona[7:36]<ParkerR_> *China[7:36]<ParkerR_> But seriously[7:36]<ParkerR_> There's no difference[7:36]<TAFB> some people just hate the "made in china" thought ;)[7:36]<ParkerR_> Well it is a sticker :P[7:36]<TAFB> ROFL! That's true[7:36]<TAFB> and if you feel bad, peel it off then yours says Made in UK ;)[7:36]* Mr_Sheesh (~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[7:37]<ParkerR_> So they were just to lazy to edit the board design?[7:37]<TAFB> hey Parker. Any way to pull up logs and see why my Pi rebooted with Quake?[7:37]<xrosnight> anyone ?[7:37]<ParkerR_> xrosnight, There isn't a solid answer[7:37]<ParkerR_> And TAFB alrwady gave you a good one[7:37]<ParkerR_> *already[7:38]<TAFB> What I heard was that they pre-printed the PCB boards in China, but they were assembled by Sony in the UK. So they got all the boards made to say Made in UK but then china factory came through so they just had them make the whole thing, so they had to put stickers over the made in uk[7:38]<ParkerR_> Heh[7:38]<TAFB> came from a high up source, I think it's accurate.[7:39]<TAFB> they said they had 30,000 PCB boards already printed.[7:39]<ParkerR_> Next up[7:39]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:39]<ParkerR_> Ebay: RASPBERRY PI BOARD GENUINE UK MADE[7:39]<ParkerR_> Highest bid $30000000000.00[7:39]<TAFB> lol[7:40]<TAFB> I paid $55 for my first (defective) Pi, because it said made in UK. When I got it, Made in China, plus it didn't work. I was mighty pissed, so the seller refunded me $10 cause it was made in china, and swapped it out for me (with another made in china one) :)[7:41]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[7:41]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[7:42]<damo22> mine is model 2 says made in china[7:42]<TAFB> a sticker?[7:42]<damo22> there is a sticker over it[7:42]<TAFB> rofl[7:43]<damo22> ie the sticker says made in china[7:43]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Bye Bye)[7:43]<TAFB> have you dared to look underneath?[7:43]<ParkerR_> Really idgaf as long as it works[7:43]<TAFB> lol[7:43]<damo22> so i put a sticker over it that says made on earth[7:44]<TAFB> nice[7:44]<TAFB> http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/72320_10151110775122127_1006179806_n.jpg[7:44]<damo22> not really i couldnt be bothered[7:45]<TAFB> Parker: any idea on log files for my quake issue?[7:45]<damo22> i wonder if anyone else knows of a model of hub that i can buy in aus[7:45]<TAFB> USB hub?[7:45]<damo22> yes[7:45]<TAFB> do you need more ports or more power?[7:45]<damo22> power[7:46]<damo22> and 1)[7:46]<TAFB> I run 3 amps out of my USB ports, power 2.5" external hard drive and high power USB wireless ;)[7:46]<damo22> 1) needs to turn on without usb active[7:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:46]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:46]<damo22> 2) needs a couple of amps @ 5V[7:46]<TAFB> http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg[7:46]<TAFB> ohhh, i see[7:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:46]<damo22> 3) i can buy it in aus[7:46]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:47]<damo22> :([7:47]<TAFB> my cousin owns an electronics store in Aus[7:47]<damo22> wahht[7:47]<damo22> :D[7:47]<TAFB> kinda like a best buy or future shop, I'll see if she is on facebook.[7:47]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:47]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:47]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:47]<damo22> nice one[7:47]<TAFB> what town are you in?[7:47]<damo22> melbourne[7:47]<damo22> doesnt matter i can pay for postage[7:48]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[7:48]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[7:48]<damo22> just need the above three features and im all set[7:48]<TAFB> I think her store is in Sydney :) I'm tryin to find it.[7:48]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:48]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:48]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:48]<damo22> cool bananas[7:49]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:49]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:49]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:49]* jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) Quit (Quit: jthunder)[7:49]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:49]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:49]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:50]<damo22> ive got a 3.5A 5V psu kickin around but i cant seem to find a hub, i dont mind paying for a psu to go with it though[7:50]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:50]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:50]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:50]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:50]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:51]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:51]<TAFB> oh, her store is close to you![7:51]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[7:51]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[7:51]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[7:51]<TAFB> do you know where Springvale, VIC? is?[7:51]<damo22> sweet[7:51]<damo22> yeah[7:51]<TAFB> woot :)[7:51]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[7:51]<damo22> just down the road[7:51]<TAFB> her store is called crazysales[7:51]<TAFB> have you heard of it?[7:52]<damo22> nope[7:52]<TAFB> lol[7:53]<mdim> axion: still here?[7:53]<mdim> it's not smooth when I play full hd, even though I've given 192 MB to GPU[7:54]<TAFB> damo: She said a lot of people that are asking about the Pi buy this one: http://www.crazysales.com.au/a-power-usb2-0-10-port-hub-with-power-black.html[7:54]<damo22> ohhh nice[7:54]<TAFB> she said it provides good power, has noise filtered USB power supply, really clean[7:54]<damo22> dudeeee[7:55]<damo22> thats great news[7:55]<xrosnight> cool. crazysales.com.au but i am in China. how much there for one Pi board?[7:55]<TAFB> if you are in China you should be able to buy from the factory for $2![7:55]<damo22> because i want it to power a usb sound card too[7:55]<TAFB> that usb power bar is a monster :) can power your whole house ;)[7:56]<damo22> TAFB: thanks a lot mate[7:56]<el_robin> xrosnight: I have bought mine from cn.element14.com[7:56]<damo22> saved me a lot of effort[7:56]<TAFB> no probs, good luck with your project[7:57]<xrosnight> i am having one. it's about $1 - $ 2 maybe. but it transfers USB 2.0 to USB 1.0 . then speed's lower[7:57]<damo22> xrosnight: so buy the $4 model :P[7:57]<xrosnight> el_robin, how much do you pay[7:57]* alexBr (~alex@p4FEA3701.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[7:57]* PiBot sets mode +v alexBr[7:57]<TAFB> I paid $35 for my Pi plus $8 for UPS next day shipping (from newark)[7:58]<damo22> i paid the same pretty much buy i needed sd card and cables[7:58]<damo22> but*[7:58]<xrosnight> all you mean U.S. dollars right?[7:58]<TAFB> I paid $30 for SD card, $70 for case, $9 for power adaper and $13 for high current usb cable :([7:58]<TAFB> $US, $CAD, same price right now :)[7:58]<xrosnight> too sad TAFB, dude[7:58]<damo22> =$AU same[7:59]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[7:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P[7:59]* matejv (~matej@tm.78.153.58.66.dc.cable.static.telemach.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[7:59]<xrosnight> If you want to have some cheep ones, i could help you maybe :D here in China[7:59]<damo22> $30 for sd card?? you got ripped off[7:59]<TAFB> lol, soon we should just make global currency :)[7:59]<el_robin> xrosnight: I need to check, I don't remember it was this summer[7:59]<TAFB> it's second from the fastest on the planet, I think I got a good deal[7:59]<xrosnight> yes. $30 freaking expensive. 32 GB class 10?[7:59]<mdim> any vendor in US that it selling heat sink kits for RPi?[8:00]<TAFB> mdim, not in US i didn't see any[8:00]<damo22> i thought pi only supports 4Gb, i dont need more than that for OS[8:00]<TAFB> $4 with free shipping from China that takes a month though[8:00]<TAFB> Dam: there's a new util called root_fs expand or something[8:00]<mdim> TAFB: I'd like something soonish[8:00]<TAFB> lets you use up to 32gb, and possibly 64[8:00]<xrosnight> TAFB, really , a month? wow. i mean[8:00]<damo22> ok[8:01]<TAFB> if it gets shipping china mail, a month for me (canada), EMS is two weeks, DHL is three or four days[8:01]<mdim> TAFB: anything else than ModMyPi in UK?[8:01]<TAFB> my card: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg[8:01]<TAFB> I'm in Canada, why you askin me? lol[8:02]<xrosnight> it depends what delivery services you choose[8:02]<TAFB> I know xro, but $8 for SD card and $58 for shipping make it not good deal if in a hurry[8:03]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[8:03]<xrosnight> i am just curious about the price cause i am going to ShenZhen where produces almost most electronic things in the world[8:03]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[8:03]<mdim> TAFB: any clue how long it could take to US?[8:03]<TAFB> xro: I buy a lot of security cameras from Shenzhen :)[8:03]<TAFB> mdim: from UK to US? How are they shipping?[8:03]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[8:04]<xrosnight> TAFB, agree. great.[8:04]<el_robin> xrosnight: according to cn elements14, current price is 235[8:04]<xrosnight> yup. it's 235 Yuan. el_robin[8:04]<mdim> TAFB: still didn't check[8:04]<mdim> are cases like this good for heat dissipation? https://www.modmypi.com/shop/raspberry-pi-cases/clear-raspberry-pi-case[8:04]<xrosnight> but you have to pay for the VAT (value added Tax) its about 45 Yuan acutually[8:05]<mdim> it's model bi that I have[8:05]<TAFB> lol[8:05]<TAFB> yeah, heat if you want to cook it[8:05]<TAFB> great case for keeping it cool: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110984616925[8:05]<rinzler> My pi isn't booting. The PWR light is on, and the OK light is a steady dim. Networking lights won't respond with ethernet plugged in either. is my pi dead?[8:05]<damo22> gtg[8:05]<damo22> thanks TAFB[8:05]<TAFB> steady dim means it isn't on ;)[8:05]<TAFB> np dam[8:05]<el_robin> xrosnight: correct[8:05]* damo22 (~damo22@210.4.229.110) has left #raspberrypi[8:06]<TAFB> rinzler: you won't get any ethernet or display unless your Pi detects the proper operating system on the SD card.[8:06]<el_robin> xrosnight: total was 310.05 (30 for shipping)[8:06]<xrosnight> el_robin, yup. cause i ever ordered there. and they gave me a call to secure[8:06]<mdim> TAFB: uh, a little bit too much for a case :)[8:06]<rinzler> TAFB: mmkay, but both good booting cards won't make the pi do anything[8:07]<TAFB> rinzler: How do you know they are good booting?[8:07]<rinzler> TAFB: I have booted them both prior to this problem[8:07]<xrosnight> el_robin, but you can pay about 288 Yuan to get one. if you buy another small thing like USB cable there, then free shipping. 310 minus the difference fee[8:07]<mdim> so, really, does anyone use RPi with XBMC/media center along with some case for it?[8:08]<TAFB> rinzler: in this exact Pi?[8:08]<rinzler> mdim: I would if I had the money for it :P[8:08]<el_robin> xrosnight: ok I didn't know, thanks for the tip[8:08]<rinzler> TAFB: yep[8:08]<TAFB> rinzler: Is it connect to HDMI screen?[8:08]<xrosnight> TAFB, the one you have is made in China ?[8:09]<TAFB> the Pi, yep. one sec for pic.[8:09]<rinzler> TAFB: yes. I tried composite connection too, but nothing[8:09]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_made_in_china.jpg[8:09]<xrosnight> el_robin, actually, someone's selling at a price of 278 Yuan Free Shipping yesterday in one Chinese forum which was great!![8:09]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[8:10]<TAFB> rinzler: can you wipe out one of the SD cards? I have a diagnostic boot image you can try.[8:10]<rinzler> TAFB: Yep. I've accually got a free 2gig card if that'll do.[8:10]<TAFB> 2gb will do, you only need 100mb for my diagnositcs[8:10]<TAFB> are you on a Windows PC?[8:11]<rinzler> TAFB: Ubuntu[8:11]<john_f> mdim: there is a vesa mount acrylic sheet "case" at adafruit[8:11]<TAFB> rinzler: do you know how to write a .img file to the card?[8:11]* roasted (ad43a2a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.67.162.166) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[8:11]<john_f> for mounting on the back of a tv/monitor[8:11]<rinzler> TAFB: I would be copying the dd instructions from the wiki, but yes[8:12]<TAFB> ok, great. Try this image: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diag_boot.img[8:12]<TAFB> you can edit the config.txt once you write it, to force the HDMI enabled, if you have a no display problem.[8:12]<TAFB> ask me for help if you get no display with that sd image as well[8:13]<rinzler> TAFB: mmkay. Downloading now.[8:13]* rinzler twiddles thumbs[8:13]<TAFB> good luck :)[8:13]<TAFB> no windows PC's in your house you can use?[8:14]<rinzler> TAFB: Well, yeah, but I'd rather tear my eyes out with a pair of tweezers than use Windows[8:14]<rinzler> kind of a *nix kind of guy :P[8:15]<TAFB> lol. ok. Just because I've only tested this image being written with Win32DiskImager so if you have issues with DD I'll force you to use Winblows ;)[8:15]<rinzler> TAFB: Haha. Fair enough :)[8:18]* Gwayne (~Gwayne@opensuse/member/gwayne) has joined #raspberrypi[8:18]* PiBot sets mode +v Gwayne[8:20]<TAFB> how's the download goin, you on dialup or somethin?[8:20]* Hydrar (~hydrar@c80-217-122-171.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[8:20]<TAFB> My internet: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2366463222.png[8:20]<mdim> john_f: do you have a link?[8:21]<john_f> mdim: http://adafruit.com/products/986[8:22]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Haha Chrome loads the img file like it is text[8:22]<ParkerR_> Fun to scroll through it[8:22]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[8:22]<TAFB> oh no Parker. I can fix that, it's my web server, one sec.[8:22]<TAFB> and mdim: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-case-for-Raspberry-Pi-Bones-V3-version-w-logo-Transparent-Case-3MM-/321031395656?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item4abef65948[8:22]<TAFB> my friend uses that case on the back of his monitor[8:22]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[8:24]<mdim> TAFB: john_f: it'd be nice to have something like that, but I'm planning to get a screen arm, so I'd have nowhere to mount RPi to :)[8:25]<TAFB> parker: should be fixed now[8:25]<mdim> just in case: would a heat sink fit into that case?[8:25]<TAFB> mdim, yep, it would[8:25]<TAFB> and just velcrow it to the back of the screen ;)[8:26]<TAFB> parker: If I upload a file that has an extension that I've never uploaded before (like .img), it defaults to plain text mime type :([8:26]<ParkerR_> Heh[8:27]<ParkerR_> Also "Made in China" http://withg.org/parkerlreed/IMG_0710.JPG[8:27]<TAFB> nice sticker parker :)[8:27]<TAFB> you have the exact identical board and revision that I do :)[8:27]<TAFB> what's your serial number sticker look like? http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_serial_sticker.jpg[8:27]<bin_bash> gosh. i hope i get one of these jobs im applying for[8:28]<DarkTherapy> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/27jed370frl7etu/ThytDsWirq[8:28]<DarkTherapy> that's how I did it[8:28]<TAFB> good luck bin-bash![8:28]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[8:28]<bin_bash> thanks, TAFB[8:28]<bin_bash> it's hard when I don't have any like, outside linux experience[8:29]<bin_bash> every bit of experience i have is hobby experience[8:29]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[8:29]<TAFB> you should move here, I see job postings "need linux admin, $125/hr full time"[8:29]<bin_bash> TAFB, where do you live?[8:29]<bin_bash> I'm trying to move to the Dallas area[8:29]<TAFB> toronto, ontario, cadnada, you?[8:29]<bin_bash> oh I don't really want to live in Canada.[8:29]<TAFB> texas?[8:29]<TAFB> lol[8:29]<bin_bash> yeah i love texas[8:30]<Essobi> O_o[8:30]<TAFB> we got heavy snow yesturday and It was -6c today (that's 21f in yank temp)[8:30]<Essobi> Texas's laws are skerreh.[8:30]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[8:30]* PiBot sets mode +v axion[8:30]<bin_bash> Essobi, what.[8:30]<Essobi> ... just what I said.[8:30]<TAFB> i like texas, open carry or concealed carry?[8:30]<bin_bash> Texas laws are awesome. Except for drug laws.[8:30]<ParkerR_> TAFB, http://withg.org/parkerlreed/IMG_0712.JPG[8:30]<DarkTherapy> -2 now..[8:30]<Essobi> bin_bash: And all the other laws where they screw your rights.[8:30]<TAFB> parker: Our pi's are like from the same batch ;)[8:31]<bin_bash> Essobi, what are ypou talking about?[8:31]<ParkerR_> Heh[8:31]* ninjak (~ninjak@77.239.137.142) has joined #raspberrypi[8:31]* PiBot sets mode +v ninjak[8:31]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[8:31]<TAFB> bin_bash: is it open carry or concealed carry, or both?[8:31]<bin_bash> TAFB, both[8:32]<TAFB> nice.[8:32]<TAFB> there is NO carry laws in canada, unless it's for bear protection :([8:32]* whitman (~whitman@87-194-159-116.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[8:32]<bin_bash> yeah that's cuz canada sucks[8:32]<bin_bash> new york sucks too[8:32]<bin_bash> that's where i live now[8:32]<bin_bash> i hate it[8:32]<TAFB> new york = canada[8:32]<xrosnight> cool what's the time there Canadian ?[8:32]<TAFB> it's like our outsid eprovince[8:32]* blkaway is now known as blkhawk[8:32]<xrosnight> now[8:32]<Essobi> bin_bash: Guilt by association law is pretty crappy in Tx.[8:32]<TAFB> lol. lots of time zones in canada. where I am is 2:30am[8:33]<xrosnight> alright. it's 15:33 here in China UTC +8[8:33]<Essobi> bin_bash: Saw a straight A honor student get life cause he gave a gang-banger a ride, but didn't know they kid was going to shoot someone.[8:33]<TAFB> bin_bash: At least in Canada they let us even HAVE guns! http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG[8:33]<bin_bash> we can have guns in NY[8:33]* whitman (~whitman@87-194-159-116.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[8:33]* PiBot sets mode +v whitman[8:33]<Essobi> bin_bash: and the complicit laws are skerrey too.[8:33]<bin_bash> Essobi, well what kind of idiot gives a ride to a stranger[8:34]<TAFB> I meant, I'm surprised they do at all here ;)[8:34]<Essobi> bin_bash: it was a friend from school.[8:34]<bin_bash> oh[8:34]<bin_bash> well, my boyfriend's friend gave a ride to this guy once, who turned out to be some crazy drug dealer gangbanger[8:34]<bin_bash> and he didn't get into any trouble[8:34]<TAFB> lol[8:34]<rinzler> TAFB: got my pi to boot from your image...[8:34]<Essobi> bin_bash: .... it was HIS friend from school.. the kid shot someone. it was all over the news.[8:35]<TAFB> Woot! Rinz, am I awesome or am I awesome[8:35]<bin_bash> Essobi, okay well what do you want me to say? There's clearly more to the story.[8:35]<TAFB> if I knew more about Linux I could create the most awesome bootable diagnostics kit for the Pi[8:35]<TAFB> but I don't[8:35]<bin_bash> I don't have any of the facts[8:35]<rinzler> *sighs* yes TAFB, but this means that I have to troubleshoot my other cards :)[8:35]<rinzler> *:([8:36]<Essobi> bin_bash: He was s senior in high school and was being drafted for football. Like I said.. The laws in TX are pretty retarded.[8:36]<TAFB> rinzler: can you work torrents?[8:36]<bin_bash> Essobi, laws in generl are pretty retarded[8:36]<rinzler> TAFB: as in create them to be downloaded? I've never done one like that, but I've been on the receiving end of plenty[8:36]<TAFB> no, just download[8:37]<TAFB> ok, gimme a min to set something up for you[8:37]<rinzler> then, yeah[8:37]<rinzler> kk[8:37]<bin_bash> Essobi, but the tax and gun laws in texas are way better than in NY.[8:37]<bin_bash> and it's cheaper to live there[8:37]<Essobi> bin_bash: touche. Tx are extremely harsh. The kid was charged for capital murder, like a week after his 18th bd. Shitty deal.[8:37]<bin_bash> sucks for him. but sometimes bad things happen when yu're in the wrong place at the wrong time. again, there has to be more to the story.[8:37]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Any other pictures you need? :P[8:37]<Essobi> bin_bash: Ehh.. I prefer KY. State constitutional right to open carry.[8:38]<TAFB> bin_bash: Crazy canada story. A guy stole a transport truck, killed the driver and dumped him on the side of the road. The transport truck has $2 million worth of 60" LED smart TV's. Someone bought one of the stolen ones, plugged it into the internet, 30 mins later the police beat down his door.[8:38]<TAFB> They charged HIM with murder![8:38]<bin_bash> what[8:38]<bin_bash> wow[8:38]<bin_bash> that's retarded[8:38]<TAFB> stating some old, law, that if you profit from the crime, you are as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger![8:38]<Essobi> TAFB: That's a guild by assoctiation law.[8:38]<Essobi> *guilt[8:38]<bin_bash> i mean, i know you can get charged with accepting or buying stoling property[8:38]<Essobi> TX has a LOT of those..[8:38]<bin_bash> stolen*[8:38]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[8:38]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos[8:39]<bin_bash> I don't think you should be charged with receiving stolen goods if you can prove you didn't know they were stolen[8:39]<TAFB> yeah, makes you really cautious about buying stolen good I guess.[8:39]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf[8:39]<Essobi> If you commit a crime and anything happens you're equally guilty for everything that happened.[8:39]<Essobi> iirc... 1st offense drunk driving in TX is a felony too.[8:39]<TAFB> bin_bash, did you see my gun pic?[8:39]<bin_bash> TAFB, no link again[8:39]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG[8:39]<bin_bash> nice[8:39]<bin_bash> I prefr handguns[8:39]<TAFB> thx :)[8:39]<Essobi> TAFB: nice.[8:40]<TAFB> there's a glock 17c in the pic[8:40]<bin_bash> that's a nice muske[8:40]<DarkTherapy> how do I create an img of my current pi sd card?[8:40]<Essobi> I like that pistol grip shotty.[8:40]<bin_bash> oo i didnt see the glock. very nice.[8:40]<xrosnight> you have a gun? what gun?[8:40]<ParkerR_> <3 http://withg.org/parkerlreed/IMG_0713.JPG[8:40]<DarkTherapy> to send to someone else[8:40]<bin_bash> I have some airsoft replicas[8:40]<TAFB> I have a few, this is my favourite handgun: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/tacfour/large/P1010030.JPG[8:40]<Essobi> DarkTherapy: dd if=/dev/blah of=~/MyNewImage.img bs=1m[8:40]<TAFB> 10 rounds .45acp hollow point, double stack, LDA :)[8:40]<bin_bash> I LOVE the chrome and black[8:41]<bin_bash> so sexy[8:41]<DarkTherapy> Essobi: thanks[8:41]<Essobi> yup[8:41]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw945/huge%20-%20Smith%20and%20Wesson%20945%20Performance%20Center%20Limited%20Edition%202.jpg[8:41]<bin_bash> TAFB, I want this: http://www.gunlistings.org/uploads/1_pistols_purple_sig_sauer_mosquito_mos22purp_104786.jpg[8:41]<bin_bash> i held it at the gun show[8:41]<bin_bash> it felt so good in my hand[8:41]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw99/large/P1010003.JPG[8:42]<TAFB> never owned a sig :)[8:42]<bin_bash> mm smith and wesson[8:42]<rinzler> TAFB: -_- the other cards are booting nao.[8:42]<bin_bash> TAFB, you and I shall be friends[8:42]<TAFB> i knew it ;)[8:42]<bin_bash> despite you being canadian.[8:42]<TAFB> my ish fixes all[8:42]<xrosnight> wow. you guys have gun in Canada ?!][8:42]<bin_bash> I don't like canada[8:42]<bin_bash> but i like TAFB[8:42]<bin_bash> because guns[8:43]<TAFB> yep, lots of guns, just no full auto[8:43]<TAFB> and no super evil guns, ak47, etc. even if semi auto[8:43]<xrosnight> how old are you bin_bash so fond of guns[8:43]<TAFB> here's a better pic of the glock: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/Glock17c/large/PICT1227.JPG[8:43]<bin_bash> xrosnight, i'm 26, why[8:43]<DarkTherapy> I work with several different guns all day, gets boring[8:43]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[8:43]* Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[8:43]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos_[8:43]<Essobi> *Ain't no glock, like the one I got*[8:43]<xrosnight> its okay. i thought only teenagers are so fond of guns. cause i was[8:44]<TAFB> Dark. Ever use a PS90/P90 or F2000/FS2000?[8:44]<xrosnight> but now i like knives :)[8:44]<Essobi> .9[8:44]<rinzler> xrosnight: you obviously haven't met my father ;P[8:44]<DarkTherapy> no, but I use a Dynamik D90S the most[8:44]<TAFB> fs2000: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov012.jpg[8:44]* matejv (~matej@188-230-133-101.dynamic.t-2.net) has joined #raspberrypi[8:44]* PiBot sets mode +v matejv[8:44]<xrosnight> rinzler, sure[8:44]<TAFB> 40mm M203 military issue: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov00a.jpg[8:45]<Jck_true> ... I've once shot with bow and arrow... does that count for anything?[8:45]<TAFB> there's my PS90: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/ps90videos/100_1347l.jpg[8:45]<TAFB> jck: lol[8:45]<TAFB> did you kill anything?[8:46]* ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away[8:46]<Jck_true> Yeah - Anything but the target ring i was supposed to aim for...[8:46]<DarkTherapy> check out the BeA Dynamik D90S[8:46]<bin_bash> ugh i went to go put my laundry in the dryer[8:46]<TAFB> Dark: It's a nail gun?[8:46]<TAFB> http://www.bea-group.com/bea/us/produkte/Dynamik_Gastechnologie/Dynamik_D90/index.php[8:46]<bin_bash> and i discovered that i hadn't closed the washer all the way and my clothes were not washed. :|[8:46]<DarkTherapy> yeah lol[8:46]<TAFB> rofl :)[8:46]<TAFB> does it take those blank cartridges, like real bullets :)[8:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) has joined #raspberrypi[8:46]* PiBot sets mode +v MrTiggr[8:46]* MrTiggr (~MrTiggr@unaffiliated/mrtiggr) Quit (Excess Flood)[8:47]<Essobi> TAFB: ffffff... nice p90[8:47]<TAFB> PS90[8:47]<TAFB> p90 not allowed in canada[8:47]<Essobi> PS90[8:47]<DarkTherapy> no, fuel cells[8:47]<TAFB> the barrel is from P90 though ;)[8:47]<Essobi> Still jelly.[8:47]<xrosnight> TAFB, by the way, how did you buy cameras from China?[8:47]<TAFB> aliexpress[8:48]<xrosnight> TAFB, get it[8:48]<Jck_true> TAFB: No wonder - Why do ordinary people need a automatic sub machinegun,...[8:48]<TAFB> I buy all my china stuff from aliexpress[8:48]* Milos__ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[8:48]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos__[8:48]<Jck_true> TAFB: Don't you get hammered in customs?[8:48]<TAFB> from china? like NEVER[8:48]<TAFB> they always mark it gift or commercial sample[8:48]<TAFB> I just got a case of flashlights and batteries today, $0 taxes or duty[8:49]<Jck_true> Urggh sadly here in denmark they tear up any package over 13.9 USD[8:49]<TAFB> yikes[8:49]<TAFB> I think only once or twice have the opened it, then put taxes on "appraised value"[8:50]<Jck_true> and take a 26USD handling fee + 25% tax of value[8:50]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-10-29-HD2010_flashlight.jpg[8:50]<Essobi> Jck_true: They're probably looking for dope in denmark thou, no?[8:50]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi[8:50]* PiBot sets mode +v bertrik[8:50]<DarkTherapy> we've got nail guns that fire nails through steel I beams[8:50]<TAFB> jck: that really sucks.[8:50]<Jck_true> Essobi: Nah - But the handling of packages liek that has been offloaded to our private postal company[8:51]<Essobi> DarkTherapy: Holy crap, that's string.[8:51]<Jck_true> Instead of the tax agency[8:51]<TAFB> Dark: I always wanted to mod one full auto. They have nail guns here that take belt fed .22 blanks.[8:51]<DarkTherapy> Essobi: yep[8:51]* Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[8:51]<Jck_true> So that bumps the price[8:51]<DarkTherapy> TAFB: nice[8:51]<Essobi> TAFB: I've shot those, framing a house.[8:51]<TAFB> fun stuff :)[8:52]<TAFB> Don't know if it will play for you: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov012.wmv[8:53]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: 'Unix is a computer virus with a user interface.' - The UNIX-HATERS Handbook.)[8:53]<ParkerR_> TAFB, PLease tell me that's ypu[8:53]<ParkerR_> *you[8:53]<TAFB> it is[8:53]<TAFB> why?[8:53]* Milos__ is now known as Milos[8:53]<ParkerR_> XD[8:53]<TAFB> lol[8:54]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov00a.wmv[8:54]<ParkerR_> Weird having a face to put to the name[8:54]<TAFB> lol[8:54]<xrosnight> Jck_true, wow. 25% tax of value! that's expensive![8:55]<xrosnight> Jck_true, i complained it's too high, 17% in China. now much higher in U.S... 25% wow[8:56]<TAFB> I think he's in UK or something, not US ;)[8:56]<Essobi> TAFB: ERHMERHGERD. that's a hell of a launcher[8:56]* dipstick (~dipstick@unaffiliated/jms1989) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[8:56]<TAFB> we're not allowed to have the real grenades for it in Canada, and are pretty limited on what we're legally allowed to make for it[8:56]<TAFB> so it pretty much shoots blanks or fireworks ;)[8:57]<Essobi> Hehehe.[8:57]* dipstick (~dipstick@unaffiliated/jms1989) has joined #raspberrypi[8:57]* PiBot sets mode +v dipstick[8:57]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:c427:3c0c:be5f:4d78) has joined #raspberrypi[8:57]* PiBot sets mode +v Yotson[8:57]<Jck_true> xrosnight: I'm in Denmark - 40% income tax (Depending on income gradually stepping up to 60%)[8:57]<xrosnight> TAFB, if Canada is in war, then they allowed i guess[8:57]<Essobi> TAFB: Here.. Due to the federal gunmaker laws... you can make just about anything, as long as you don't endanger anyone, sell/buy/trade it.[8:58]<Jck_true> xrosnight: 180% tax on cars - 8USD/Gallon Gas[8:58]<xrosnight> Jck_true, oh ,my god. 40% income tax. wow[8:58]<TAFB> you're allowed to make your own guns here too, can't sell them, but they can't shoot ammo that explodes, hence the issue with the grenade launcher[8:58]<Essobi> Ah.[8:58]<Essobi> You can make weird stuff like that..[8:59]<Jck_true> If you're making grenade launchers in your home.. You got a problem...[8:59]<TAFB> I can't make the grenade launcher, no. I purchased that one from old military stock. But you can convert airsoft grenade launchers to do the same thing, really cheap.[8:59]<TAFB> Airsoft grenade launcher: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/m203/justinM203.wmv[8:59]<xrosnight> Jck_true, that's very high i guess. also in China, if you want to buy exported cars, you have to pay 150%-200% tax almost. it depends on what kinda you buy[9:00]<xrosnight> i don't like killing weapons. i am fond of air drone a lot![9:01]<Essobi> TAFB: There's some amatuer fireworks laws I think people exploit down here to load up targets with homemade secondary explosive to shoot at.[9:01]<xrosnight> i want to make a DIY air drone with arduino[9:01]<Essobi> xrosnight: http://store.diydrones.com/category_s/1.htm[9:01]<TAFB> Essobi: there's a course you can take here called Pyrotechnics Class 1, then you're allowed to buy flash powder and make up your own small devices (not allowed in metal housing, etc.). That's what people do here :)[9:02]<Essobi> Yea, that's pretty much the same here..[9:03]<Essobi> TAFB: And we have crazies like this... http://youtu.be/efyOEKuCG6U[9:03]* gabriel9|work (~quassel@9-133-241-92-ptp.stat.customer.blic.net) has joined #raspberrypi[9:03]* PiBot sets mode +v gabriel9|work[9:04]<TAFB> nice :) When I go down to las vegas I always stop at the gun range on Tropicana and shoot the full auto :)[9:04]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) Quit ()[9:05]<Essobi> TAFB: And here.. http://youtu.be/fBr77uVScMg[9:05]<Essobi> Most machines ever shot at the same time... On video.[9:06]<TAFB> nice[9:06]<Essobi> God bless 'merica. F'ya. :D[9:07]<TAFB> i'm going to try and get ruby set up again :( so I can get live Pi stats for my webserver: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/027-live-raspberry-pi-system-stats[9:07]<Essobi> Couldn't get much redder then that.[9:08]<TAFB> wow, things install a lot faster when you're not compiling quake3 in the background :)[9:09]* ghallberg (~gustaf@irc.jagochmittmoln.se) has joined #raspberrypi[9:09]* PiBot sets mode +v ghallberg[9:09]<ghallberg> Is there any way to modify the cpu-scaling behaviour on the pi? I think my torrents are cpu-limited, but the cpu never caps out so the scaling doesn't activate.[9:10]* kripton is now known as Kripton[9:10]<TAFB> yes[9:11]<TAFB> ghall: http://pastebin.com/vUBx95qZ[9:12]* dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[9:12]<ghallberg> ty[9:12]* dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f70ba44.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[9:12]* PiBot sets mode +v dc5ala[9:12]<TAFB> get rid of the gpu_mem=16 out of there, i forgot about that, then it'd be in your config.txt twice, messes ish up[9:12]<ghallberg> I'm already using the overclocking settings though.[9:13]<ghallberg> It's just that my torrents aren't triggering the scaling.[9:13]<TAFB> they should with that config[9:13]<Essobi> ghallberg: It's probably not CPU bound then.[9:13]<Essobi> ghallberg: top -S? w?[9:13]<ghallberg> Essobi: I gues :/[9:13]<TAFB> you know how to check CPU speed, temp and voltage right?[9:14]<ghallberg> I've been looking at /proc/cpuinfo[9:14]<ghallberg> Essobi: htop has the load between 90 and 100%[9:15]<TAFB> I install cpufrequtils[9:15]<TAFB> then watch cpufreq-info[9:15]<ghallberg> It's not waiting for IO according to htop's advanced mode.[9:15]<rinzler> okay, at the risk of sounding out of the loop (because I have been), what's the skinny on Gertboard?[9:15]<TAFB> for temp: watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp[9:15]<TAFB> for voltage: watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts[9:15]<TAFB> if your cpu is getting too hot, that'll stop it from ramping up[9:15]<Essobi> Oh yea..[9:16]<Essobi> A passive heatsink should fix that...[9:16]<TAFB> unfortunatly[9:16]<TAFB> it won't help much[9:16]<TAFB> because the CPU is under the ram chip (or something)[9:16]<TAFB> so you're just cooling the ram. A heatsink will drop it a degree or two, a fan a little more[9:17]<ghallberg> ok[9:17]<TAFB> ghallberg: let me know how it rips with that config.txt[9:17]<TAFB> keep an eye on cpu speed and temp[9:18]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-58-169-184-146.lns3.woo.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi[9:18]* PiBot sets mode +v Lord_DeathMatch[9:19]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[9:19]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[9:20]<ghallberg> I guess I was just being stupid.[9:20]<ghallberg> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq[9:20]<ghallberg> Gives me the right value.[9:20]<TAFB> nice :)[9:20]<ghallberg> /proc/cpuinfo is only for the "base" speed I gues.[9:20]<TAFB> makes sense.[9:21]<ghallberg> Oh well, I'll keep dreaming of maxing out my bandwidth ;)[9:21]<TAFB> ghallberg: how do you view /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq?[9:21]<ghallberg> cat[9:21]<Essobi> cpuinfo is the boot setting[9:22]<Essobi> w/o scaling[9:22]<ghallberg> Essobi: Yeah I figured that out :)[9:23]<TAFB> thanks ghallberg: watch cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq[9:23]<TAFB> works sweet[9:23]<ghallberg> It should :)[9:24]<TAFB> now I just gotta get Ruby working with eventmachine[9:24]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[9:25]<ghallberg> I don't know if I dare overclock to more than 950, it probaly won't give me that much speed anyway.[9:25]<TAFB> if you use that 1ghz config.txt I posted it's super stable, and retarded fast.[9:25]<TAFB> If you use raspi-config to overclock to 1ghz it crashes all the time and corrupts your sd card :([9:26]<ghallberg> Yeah raspi-config has been really flakey for me.[9:28]* codemagician (~anon@ppp-115-87-125-87.revip4.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi[9:28]* PiBot sets mode +v codemagician[9:29]* lars_t_h (~lars_t_h@002129140084.mbb.telenor.dk) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[9:32]<TAFB> alright, I'm off to bed, 3:30am 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has joined #raspberrypi[10:26]* PiBot sets mode +v martk100[10:27]* pansdr (~pansdr@unaffiliated/pansdr) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:29]<martk100> The latest Raspbian wheezy does not see my Belkin dongle. Earlier versions did. I seem to have the correct Ralink-firmware installed. Anyone any idea how to fix this?[10:33]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[10:33]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[10:33]<DarkTherapy> morning all[10:33]* tapout (~tapout@unaffiliated/tapout) has joined #raspberrypi[10:33]* PiBot sets mode +v tapout[10:33]<tapout> anyone know an official distributor for Canada for the PI?[10:34]<neilr> martk100 - do you see anything in /var/log/messages when you plug the dongle in?[10:34]<tapout> I see http://www.farnell.com/ doesn't list "canada"[10:34]<buZz> tapout: there are just two official distributors[10:34]<buZz> tapout: but adafruit.com sells them[10:35]<martk100> neilr: Not sure. Lots of messages when I type dmesg which seem to relate to my usb dongle.[10:35]* Weaselweb (~quassel@77-64-181-50.dynamic.primacom.net) has joined #raspberrypi[10:35]* PiBot sets mode +v Weaselweb[10:36]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:37]<neilr> martk100: do you see the adaptor if you type 'lsusb' ?[10:37]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[10:38]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[10:38]* PiBot sets mode +v Davespice[10:38]<martk100> neilr: yes.. it listit ok. Cant remember the exact message though.[10:39]<neilr> martk100: So when you say it doesn't 'see' your dongle, what exactly do you mean?[10:39]<martk100> neilr: After installing wpagui. I get an error on the gui cannot get status from wpa supplicant.[10:39]<neilr> Ah, right, I've never used wpagui[10:39]<martk100> neilr: I have no wlan0 configures.[10:39]<xrosnight> you plugged in a usb-wifi?[10:40]<xrosnight> iwlist scan wlan0[10:40]<xrosnight> ifconfig wlan0 up[10:41]<xrosnight> it's : iwlist wlan0 scan[10:41]<xrosnight> i mean[10:41]* Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[10:41]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos_[10:41]<martk100> xrosnight: have tried ifup wlan0. It will not connect via dhcp.[10:41]* Milos (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:41]<xrosnight> martk100, you need input[10:41]<xrosnight> dhcpcd[10:42]<xrosnight> if you have fixed ip table. you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces[10:44]<martk100> xrosnight: What exactly does dhcpcd do.[10:45]<xrosnight> if you are using wireless network, you need to hook your computer to the host first[10:45]<xrosnight> you need to use wpasupplicant[10:45]* Matt (matt@freenode/staff-emeritus/matt) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:45]* ethzero (~eth0@168.63.13.181) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:46]<xrosnight> once you get hooked to the hotspot[10:46]<martk100> xrosnight: Yes I am about to copy the file wpa_supplicant.conf from an earlier sd card which worked ok.[10:46]<xrosnight> you need to get a IP[10:46]<xrosnight> yeah. that's the one.[10:46]<xrosnight> then you need dhcpcd[10:47]<martk100> xrosnight: Yes indeed that is my problem.[10:47]<xrosnight> you will get ip pair then you could surf the internet[10:48]<martk100> xrosnight: WAs this dhcpcd in the previous version of raspbian dated july 2012?[10:48]<xrosnight> i don't know that. I dont use raspbian. i use Archlinux :D[10:49]<xrosnight> all things sorted by hand[10:49]<martk100> xrosnight: OK thanks . Lots of things to look at.[10:50]<CelticTurnip> ...[10:50]<CelticTurnip> seriously?[10:50]<neilr> I'm not certain you'll need dhcpd[10:50]<CelticTurnip> of course you don't[10:50]<CelticTurnip> unless your Pi is a router :P[10:50]<neilr> unless you want your pi to act as dhcp server[10:50]<neilr> exactly[10:50]<tanuva> is there a CAD model of the Pi with the leds onboard? I currently have no Pi to take some measurements....[10:51]* shurizzle (~shura@unaffiliated/shurizzle) Quit (Quit: bye.)[10:51]* alex88 (~alex88@unaffiliated/alex88) has joined #raspberrypi[10:51]* PiBot sets mode +v alex88[10:51]* CelticTurnip watches Computer Chronicles 386 episode... mmmm speedy 386 action! :)[10:52]<Armand> CelticTurnip, you know 386-DX support has been dropped now? :([10:52]<Armand> from the Kernel, that is..[10:52]<Armand> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=743aa456c1834f76982af44e8b71d1a0b2a82e21[10:52]<CelticTurnip> well I better throw mine out now :)[10:53]<CelticTurnip> many moons ago I found a 486 on the side of the road, I decided to install Gentoo on... 1 of the capacitors blew up before it finished compiling :)[10:53]<CelticTurnip> or it may have been FreeBSD...[10:53]<Armand> :([10:53]<gordonDrogon> maybe that's why it was at the side of the road :)[10:53]* martk100 (~martin@host-2-103-173-43.as13285.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[10:53]<Armand> Capacitors are usually easy to replace though.[10:53]<CelticTurnip> anyway compile... compile... days and days of compile... POP! :)[10:54]<Armand> lol[10:54]<neilr> martk100: here are some notes I made while getting a wireless USB interface up on my first pi: http://www.ronketti.org.uk/network.html - sorry about the formatting, I just pasted it from my wiki[10:54]<CelticTurnip> OH MY GOD! some tech caled compact disc...[10:54]* CelticTurnip buys![10:54]<neilr> Oh. Did I say something :-/[10:54]<buZz> neilr: wirelessusb?[10:54]<Armand> O_O[10:55]<buZz> neilr: oh, usb wifi[10:55]<buZz> meh[10:55]* Armand throws a 128MB USB stick at CelticTurnip [10:55]<alex88> hi guys :) I've bought this http://img2.buyincoins.com/sinedya/8-channel-relay-module_01.jpg relay module, I've seen some guys at the forum have it working but I don't know if it's safe to connect the IN pins to the raspberry gpio ports, any clue about that?[10:55]<CelticTurnip> 386 and compact disc... WANT!!![10:55]<CelticTurnip> what's a USB?[10:56]<Armand> Magic port![10:56]* booyaa (~booyaa@hack.rs) has left #raspberrypi[10:56]<Armand> It works with nearly anything, unless it's branded "Belkin"[10:56]<Armand> trollololololol[10:56]<CelticTurnip> :)[10:56]<DarkTherapy> alex88: that works fine with the pi[10:57]<DarkTherapy> alex88: I use it myself[10:57]<alex88> DarkTherapy, so I just need to connect gnd, 5V to power and the gpio to the IN pins?[10:57]* CelticTurnip wants a Pi with anti-turbo mode for 386 speedage[10:57]<alex88> DarkTherapy, can you please explain me what's the GND|VCC|JD-VCC jumper on the right?[10:57]<Jck_true> alex88: I checked one of them recently - You're gonna have some trouble with the IN pins being 5v[10:57]<DarkTherapy> alex88: yes, the board actually works with 5v logic ins but the pi outputs 3.3[10:58]<DarkTherapy> Jck_true: it works fine at 3.3[10:58]<Jck_true> I haven't seen the specs[10:58]<neilr> while we're getting nostalgic, I managed to get a video of my pi running elite, complete with some speech synthesis at the end when I crash into the space station. Anyone interested?[10:58]<Armand> CelticTurnip, just underclock it to 25MHz.. :P[10:59]<CelticTurnip> will do[10:59]<Jck_true> The ones I looked at required 50mA for each relay...[10:59]<CelticTurnip> but XBMC better still work :P[10:59]<alex88> Jck_true, you mean troubles on making them working or a possible damage to the pi?[10:59]<Jck_true> Well the GPIO pins got a maximum rated draw of 50mA from a GPIO pin at 3.3V[10:59]<DarkTherapy> alex88: no, they use opto isolators and transistors[10:59]<DarkTherapy> they are fine[11:00]<Jck_true> The relay i saw were rated at 50mA at 5V[11:00]<alex88> it's more important to protect the pi instead of having the relay board working :) since 5 weeks are too much to wait for another rome :)[11:00]<DarkTherapy> alex88: it's fine with the pi[11:00]* MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@host86-178-130-235.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:00]* PiBot sets mode +v MikeJ1971[11:01]<alex88> DarkTherapy, that was my biggest thought? so with opto isolators and transistors there is no chance of power going back to the pi? (sorry I'm a noob in such things)[11:01]<DarkTherapy> alex88: it's protected[11:01]* OmIkRoNiXz (omik@gamehost.ee) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:01]<DarkTherapy> alex88: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5pw54sp612ayjlo/2012-11-29%2019.36.18.jpg[11:02]<DarkTherapy> I'm not sure what the jumper is for,[11:02]<buZz> DarkTherapy: that looks nice[11:02]<buZz> which jumper?[11:02]<Armand> DarkTherapy.... what the heck is your Pi hanging on by?? O_O[11:02]<alex88> DarkTherapy, thanks for the pic man :)[11:02]<buZz> Armand: on a monitor?[11:03]<Armand> No no.[11:03]<buZz> no?[11:03]<Armand> I mean.. How is it attached?[11:03]<alex88> buZz, http://img2.buyincoins.com/sinedya/8-channel-relay-module_01.jpg the jumper on the right, it has gnd|vcc|jd-vcc[11:03]<buZz> ah, see those 4 points?[11:03]<Armand> Looks like it's hanging on by hopes and dreams. :P[11:03]<buZz> thats called a vesa mount[11:03]<buZz> on the vesa mount it looks like he mounted some plastic[11:03]<Armand> -_-[11:03]<buZz> and the raspi is connected to the raspi with rubber bands[11:04]<Armand> O_O[11:04]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:04]<buZz> alex88: hmm weird[11:04]<alex88> by default is on vcc|jd-vcc[11:04]* MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@host86-178-130-235.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:05]<DarkTherapy> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/27jed370frl7etu/ThytDsWirq[11:05]<DarkTherapy> my mount ^^[11:05]* MikeJ1971 (~MikeJ1971@vpn-205-001.nomadic.bris.ac.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[11:05]* PiBot sets mode +v MikeJ1971[11:05]<buZz> my mount; http://nurdspace.nl/RasPi_Lapdock_Laptop[11:05]<buZz> hehe[11:06]<buZz> ahh its in a case![11:06]<buZz> nice one[11:06]<Armand> Ahhh.... Now I see, DarkTherapy.[11:06]<buZz> maybe next time you should use a monitor with built-in USB hub ;)[11:07]<DarkTherapy> yeah[11:07]<alex88> btw, I've seen that 3.3v relay boards are not that common[11:07]<jelly1> valgrind doesnt have support for the Pi right?[11:07]<DarkTherapy> I don't use it anymore anyway since its on top of my garage motor now[11:07]<Armand> DarkTherapy, I'm working on a VESA100 mount myself.[11:07]<tapout> does it really take months to get your order fulfilled?[11:08]<tapout> damn, these allied fellas are saying could be months before shipped[11:08]<DarkTherapy> http://youtu.be/NUJ5z76Xv5o[11:09]<DarkTherapy> not on the screen anymore..[11:09]<Armand> No tubings here.. my laptop hates youtube. :([11:11]<Armand> Ha! I should have guessed you're a Brit, DarkTherapy..[11:11]<Armand> Who else keeps a microscope in the kitchen ? :P[11:11]<DarkTherapy> haha[11:12]* hyperair (hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:12]<jelly1> does the Pi support mjpeg decoding or not?[11:12]<Armand> We don't keep anything random in the kitchen.. My dad is a fussy twat. -_-[11:13]* OmIkRoNiXz (omik@gamehost.ee) has joined #raspberrypi[11:13]* PiBot sets mode +v OmIkRoNiXz[11:13]<alex88> DarkTherapy, that's awesome![11:13]<DarkTherapy> thanks[11:13]* Haaninjo (~anders@85.8.55.65) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[11:14]* Lord_DeathMatc (Lord_Death@CPE-124-180-86-25.lns9.lon.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi[11:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Lord_DeathMatc[11:15]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-58-169-184-146.lns3.woo.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:15]<jelly1> They also hope to be able to support VP8, MJPG, and Theora since those codecs are royalty-free. The GPU itself is able to handle hardware decoding for H.264, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, VC-1, AVS, and MJPG.[11:15]<jelly1> hmm do i need openmax crud for the last?[11:18]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[11:22]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:22]<alex88> DarkTherapy, one last thing, does it works with the on/off commands or like somewhere I've read, you have to switch out/in to make relay switch?[11:22]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi[11:22]* PiBot sets mode +v linuxstb[11:23]<jelly1> well i am quiet sure mjpg doesnt work :p[11:23]<DarkTherapy> alex88: a logic 1 will turn the relay on - 0 off[11:23]* Lord_DeathMatc is now known as Lord_DeathMatch[11:23]<alex88> DarkTherapy, oh ok, so no need to hacky things[11:23]<DarkTherapy> nope[11:23]* BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) has joined #raspberrypi[11:23]* PiBot sets mode +v BCMM[11:24]<alex88> thanks for the tip :) my pi should be shipped this week.. :)[11:25]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[11:25]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon[11:25]<DarkTherapy> nice[11:25]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi[11:25]* PiBot sets mode +v sraue[11:25]<DarkTherapy> I originally used the relay board for arduino but it's fine for pi too :0)[11:25]* NucWin (~nucwin@unaffiliated/nucwin) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:26]* NucWin (~nucwin@unaffiliated/nucwin) has joined #raspberrypi[11:26]* PiBot sets mode +v NucWin[11:26]* Milos_ (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:27]* Milos_ (Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[11:27]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos_[11:28]* Milos_ is now known as Milos[11:29]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:29]* PiBot sets mode +v Davespice[11:29]<alex88> DarkTherapy, nice to hear that.. I've also some thermocouples with 1-wire interface? let's see if I'll get them working also[11:30]<DarkTherapy> :0)[11:30]<neilr> alex88: are they DS18B20 sensors?[11:30]<alex88> neilr, let me check[11:31]<alex88> neilr, correct.. with 1 mt waterproof cable[11:32]<alex88> bought 3 for 13 euros[11:32]<neilr> Cool - I'm using them on one of my pis: http://www.ronketti.org.uk/temp.html[11:33]<alex88> neilr, any wiring tips? just the 4k resistor between power and data?[11:33]<alex88> btw, cool :)[11:34]<neilr> I think I have a 4k7 resistor, but anything around there will do[11:34]<neilr> I also heard that the latest incarnation of the kernel will support parasitic power[11:35]<tanuva> do I need written license to engrave the Pi logo on my personal unique case? The site states I need permission to manufacture "merchandise", but a case isn't really merchandise, is it?[11:35]<megaproxy> mygod[11:35]<megaproxy> its so cold and frosty[11:36]<Essobi> neilr: They got the parasitic working? I need to fire mine up then.. I was going to update the .ko myself but got busy..[11:36]<neilr> Essobi: I *think* so - not 100% sure[11:36]<alex88> mmhh.. parasitic = ?[11:36]<Essobi> neilr: I'll have to poke at it..[11:36]<neilr> there's quite a long post on the forum about the 1-wire kernel patches[11:36]<alex88> also, someone tried http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=18820 ?[11:36]<Essobi> alex88: the data line throws high long enough to power the chip up, w/o the 3.3V[11:37]<Essobi> For the parasitic chips. :D[11:37]<Armand> tanuva, so long as you don't sell it. :)[11:37]<alex88> Essobi, so basically no need of the transistor? :)[11:37]<alex88> s/transistor/resistor/[11:37]<neilr> exactly[11:37]<tanuva> Armand: nope, it's just for me. fine :)[11:37]<Armand> Should be fine then. :)[11:38]<neilr> I used parasitic mode through a DS9490R USB bridge to start with[11:38]<neilr> But wanted my USB port back[11:38]<Essobi> Hehehe.[11:38]<Essobi> Shouldn't be hard to scope out parasitic.[11:39]<neilr> Here you go: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=6649[11:39]<Essobi> IIRC, it's just a different "wake up" pulse.[11:39]<Essobi> neilr: Rockin..[11:39]* egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) has joined #raspberrypi[11:39]* PiBot sets mode +v egrouse[11:41]* [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) Quit (Excess Flood)[11:41]<Essobi> neilr: I've got an AVR 1-wire slave emulator library somewhere I need to go poke on, and see if I can add kernel support for.[11:41]* [SLB] (~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua) has joined #raspberrypi[11:41]* PiBot sets mode +v [SLB][11:41]<Essobi> Hmm.. wonder what the max distance you can run a parasitic at 3.3v at..[11:42]<neilr> I had about 3 metres of cable, or so. Worked fine with two sensors.[11:42]<xrosnight> what sensors there?[11:42]<jelly1> so it seems there is no mjpeg decoding support[11:42]<jelly1> genious[11:42]<neilr> xrosnight: DS18B20[11:42]<alex88> btw, I'm not that good with electronics, but this http://adafruit.com/products/395 can help for using 5v relay boards, sensors and protect the raspberry? or what's its aim?[11:42]<buZz> jelly1: complain @ broadcom about it ;)[11:43]<xrosnight> great! you connect DS18B20 with Raspberry Pi?? without resistants ?[11:43]<jelly1> buZz: no[11:43]<jelly1> buZz: the foundation sort of told me they support it[11:43]<buZz> ah[11:44]<buZz> but they lied?[11:44]<jelly1> i would like to kick patents to hell[11:44]<jelly1> well not lied[11:44]<buZz> is it there?[11:44]<buZz> no?[11:44]<buZz> did they say it was?[11:44]<buZz> yes?[11:44]<buZz> :)[11:44]<neilr> xrosnight: yes - http://www.ronketti.org.uk/temp.html[11:44]<jelly1> woop[11:44]<neilr> *But* to work without resistors, you need the DS9490R USB bridge[11:44]<buZz> neilr: wow nice graphs[11:44]<buZz> neilr: what made those graphs?[11:45]<jelly1> buZz: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=21789[11:45]<jelly1> buZz: dom knows stuff right[11:45]<neilr> buZz: perl::GD[11:45]<jelly1> "It's possibly in theory - the GPU does support MJPEG, but it's never been plumbed in as it's not a common request."[11:45]<jelly1> perl ftw[11:45]<xrosnight> neilr, that's great! i also have DS18B20 here. and i am going to buy one raspberry Pi now.[11:45]<jelly1> buZz: and I can't find if openmax supports it[11:45]<buZz> jelly1: ah right[11:45]<buZz> neilr: ah hehe, nice[11:45]<buZz> perl ftw indeed[11:46]<jelly1> since finding info about openmax is even more google work[11:46]<buZz> man[11:46]<buZz> i hate waiting for packages ;([11:46]<jelly1> what packages :o[11:46]* rrhb_ (~sendhb@c-24-19-27-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[11:46]* PiBot sets mode +v rrhb_[11:46]<buZz> microUSB female to USB female[11:46]<buZz> cable[11:46]<buZz> so i can finally use my lapdock's keyboard and mousepad[11:47]<alex88> neilr, you need the resistor still with the parasitic kernel patch?[11:47]<neilr> alex88: I haven't tried that yet. I may get the soldering iron out this weekend and give it a whizz[11:47]<Essobi> neilr: anything over 20 inches on a 1-wire run is considered a "transmission line"[11:47]<neilr> At the moment I'm using a 4k7 resistor[11:47]* rrhb (~sendhb@24.19.27.111) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:47]<buZz> and also a lot of other packages[11:47]<alex88> oh ok, thanks![11:47]<jelly1> i compiled gst-omx but that didnt work[11:47]<buZz> that i forgot i ordered[11:47]* rrhb_ is now known as rrhb[11:48]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[11:48]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[11:48]<neilr> Essobi: That could explain why I normally need to read the line two or three times before it returns a good value[11:48]<jelly1> maybe i should dife into decoding a jpeg[11:48]* des2 (~noone@pool-71-190-47-235.nycmny.east.verizon.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:48]<neilr> s/normally/sometimes[11:48]* Gussi (~gussi@89.160.153.218) Quit (Quit: Bah)[11:48]* Bryanstein (~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)[11:48]<Essobi> neilr: see if it works sub 20 inches[11:48]* Gussi (~gussi@89-160-153-218.du.xdsl.is) has joined #raspberrypi[11:48]* PiBot sets mode +v Gussi[11:49]<Essobi> vs longer[11:49]<neilr> I'll give it a go and see. Thanks.[11:49]<Essobi> neilr: I might grab the code here shortly and take a peek, but it's a difference in electrical properties that causes timings to need to be adjusted...[11:49]<Essobi> neilr: http://www.1wire.org/Files/Articles/1-Wire-Design%20Guide%20v1.0.pdf[11:50]* mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:51]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi[11:51]* PiBot sets mode +v chris_99[11:51]* Bryanstein (~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein) has joined #raspberrypi[11:51]* PiBot sets mode +v Bryanstein[11:52]<Essobi> neilr: "Any discontinuity on the line, including slaves can cause reflections. Locations that are at integer fractions of the line length are particularly problematic as they can resonant."[11:52]* InControl (~InControl@firewall.adslnation.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:52]* PiBot sets mode +v InControl[11:53]<neilr> essobi: That's interesting - and makes perfect sense now I think about it.[11:54]* neilr gets out ruler to measure length of cables...[11:54]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:54]* des2 (~noone@pool-71-190-47-235.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[11:54]* PiBot sets mode +v des2[11:56]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:56]* PiBot sets mode +v Davespice[11:58]* neilr is away: making a pot of tea[11:58]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:58]<Essobi> neilr: Hmm. you know how many amps a gpio pin can source?[11:59]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[11:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[12:00]* Couto (~15minutes@pdpc/supporter/active/couto) has left #raspberrypi[12:01]<Jck_true> Essobi: http://elinux.org/Rpi_Low-level_peripherals#Power_pins[12:02]<Jck_true> Essobi: 50mA :)[12:02]* neilr is back (gone 00:04:10)[12:03]<Essobi> Jck_true: That's the output of the 5v line, not how much the output pins source.[12:03]<Jck_true> Essobi: "The maximum permitted current draw from the 3.3 V pins is 50 mA."[12:03]<neilr> Essobi: Sorry, no idea.[12:04]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:04]* fatpudding (~fatpuddin@178.74.56.81) has joined #raspberrypi[12:04]* PiBot sets mode +v fatpudding[12:04]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:04]* PiBot sets mode +v Linovia[12:06]* h0cin (~h0cin@unaffiliated/h0cin) has joined #raspberrypi[12:06]* PiBot sets mode +v h0cin[12:07]<Essobi> Jck_true: Again.. you don't understand the question.[12:07]<Essobi> neilr: http://www.scribd.com/doc/101830961/GPIO-Pads-Control2[12:08]<Essobi> neilr: looks like the pi was designed to only source ~3mA per GPIO pad, althou the SoC itself can support 16mA.[12:09]* Gwayne (~Gwayne@opensuse/member/gwayne) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:09]<Essobi> neilr: Shouldn't be a big deal thou for not parasitic, max pull with 1.5mA iirc[12:10]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[12:12]<neilr> Essobi: that makes sense - and it's the first time I've looked at parasitic mode via GPIO pins in this much detail, so thanks for the info.[12:13]<gordonDrogon> the gpio pins are good for 16mA each..[12:13]<gordonDrogon> you can pull much more, but the output voltage will drop.[12:14]* tinti (~tinti@maxtrack-F4-0-3-gacc04.bhe.embratel.net.br) has joined #raspberrypi[12:14]* PiBot sets mode +v tinti[12:14]<gordonDrogon> there is supposedly a limit to the amount of spare 3.3v though - and that's 50mA IIRC[12:14]<gordonDrogon> however... http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg[12:14]<gordonDrogon> they're taking about 8mA each..[12:14]<gordonDrogon> possibly 10.[12:14]* elyob (~textual@host86-136-175-106.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:14]* PiBot sets mode +v elyob[12:14]* Ed_ (54582474@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.88.36.116) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[12:15]<gordonDrogon> I have been told that if you set the pad drivers to max and connect a GPIO to ground and drive it on... then it'll reboot the pi..[12:15]<gordonDrogon> however I've yet to try this myself..[12:15]<neilr> gordonDrogon: I could light my shed up with that lot.[12:15]<DarkTherapy> morning gordonDrogon[12:15]<gordonDrogon> :)[12:15]* swat (~swat@ubuntu/member/swat) has joined #raspberrypi[12:15]* PiBot sets mode +v swat[12:16]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: From what I'm reading... if you shove more then 16mA into it, it'll eventually just stop working.[12:16]<gordonDrogon> Essobi, maybe. I've left 16mA LEDs going for days...[12:17]<lunra> Don't try the reboot thing, it's not worth risking SD card corruption :X[12:17]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: You read that link I posted?[12:17]<gordonDrogon> I've also shorted out the limiting resistors just to see what would happen... A high power LED sucked 35mA from a single Pin - didn't appear to damage it.[12:17]<Essobi> lunra: dd often. :D[12:17]<gordonDrogon> Essobi, I saw that link many months back. There is code in my gpio program to control the pad drivers.[12:18]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: that's what the paper I read said.. it'll do it.. just don't expect the pin to survive long.[12:18]<gordonDrogon> and in wiringPi.[12:18]<lunra> I had an SD card end up completely screwed, such that it would report a corrupted capacity and always read back nulls[12:18]<Essobi> and if you do oversource it..[12:18]<Essobi> Don't do it on multiple pins cause it'll brownout the power supply[12:18]<gordonDrogon> Essobi, it's important to note that that is not a current limiter![12:18]<Essobi> touche[12:18]<gordonDrogon> I spent some time with Gert to understand how they work.[12:19]<neilr> http://youtu.be/QCvAVfCqzWc - couldn't resist it. It's like being told off by Stephen Hawking at the end.[12:19]<gordonDrogon> it's the maximum current you can pull before the output voltage drops below what they consider to be a stable logic 1.[12:19]<Essobi> right[12:19]* b_bonner (~b_bonner@c-50-135-14-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[12:19]<Essobi> so if it's set to 2mA and you draw 16, it won't be logic high anymore[12:19]<gordonDrogon> Gert assures me that a single pad driver enabled will short circuit the supply quite easily...[12:20]<gordonDrogon> yup.[12:20]<gordonDrogon> it may also make the chip a bit hot in the process :)[12:20]<Essobi> That too[12:20]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@92.40.254.144.threembb.co.uk) Quit ()[12:20]<Essobi> You played with 1-wire yet?[12:20]<gordonDrogon> that control just parallels up the drivers.[12:20]<gordonDrogon> not in a Pi.[12:20]<gordonDrogon> done 1w stuff on Arduinos.[12:20]* mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) has joined #raspberrypi[12:20]* PiBot sets mode +v mythos[12:20]<Essobi> Cool.. I've but mind 18b out, and I'm gonna play with it again..[12:21]<megaproxy> can anyone in uk think of somewhere other than ebay where i can get that motorola dock thing?[12:21]<Essobi> Resurrected my 3.3V 328P@8mhz again too, and got it all back up and programming on the RPI.[12:22]<Essobi> .... Not enough coffee..[12:22]* b_bonner (~b_bonner@c-50-135-14-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:22]* PiBot sets mode +v b_bonner[12:22]<gordonDrogon> Essobi, I did some stuff to patch avrdude with some patched to let you use GPIO to program an atmega.[12:22]<Essobi> I've dug my 18b out again.[12:22]<gordonDrogon> rather than serial.[12:22]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: I know.. I'm using it. :D[12:22]<gordonDrogon> ah, great![12:22]<gordonDrogon> what's an 18b ?[12:22]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: http://www.repyoblog.com/index.php/2012/10/raspberry-pi-with-avr-328p-using-spi-and-gpio/[12:23]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: Oh, the 1-wire thermometers.[12:23]<gordonDrogon> ok[12:23]<gordonDrogon> good page.[12:24]<gordonDrogon> might want to think about shrinking the photos though - make it load a lot faster.[12:24]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: TY. I've also got a 1-wire slave emulation for bare AVR.. I'm going to see if I can't get the linux kernel module to pay attention to said soft-slave.[12:24]<gordonDrogon> ok.[12:24]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: Yea, I noticed that the other day.. :D[12:24]<gordonDrogon> Have to say, I'm not really a fan of 1wire...[12:24]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: you played with chip45's bootloader?[12:24]<gordonDrogon> I see it's applications, but ...[12:24]<gordonDrogon> don't know what a chip45 is.[12:25]<lunra> Oh hey, DT got on hackaday. Nice.[12:25]<Essobi> gordonDrogon: It's simple and you can get some really long runs on it.. unfortunately it likes to induct lightning in parasitic mode and cook your chips, I'm told thou. :D[12:25]<gordonDrogon> anything with long wires has that potential...[12:26]<gordonDrogon> right. back inna bit. coffee & toast time.[12:26]<Essobi> I think the parasitic are especially vuln since you're using the 1-wire signal to power/ground and there is a weeee tiny cap in the chip to provide said parasitic power.[12:27]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:28]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #raspberrypi[12:28]* PiBot sets mode +v neilr[12:34]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Quit: something went very wrong)[12:36]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:36]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[12:37]<Davespice> just seen the most amazing tweet from Brian Cox[12:38]<Davespice> -> In fact I declare 22nd December 'international slap a pseudoscientific hippy with a text book day.'[12:38]* Davespice rofl[12:39]<yaMatt> books a chiropractic appointment for saturday next[12:40]* Davespice resists urge to start doomsday debate in inappropriate channel[12:40]<shiftplusone> heh[12:40]<shiftplusone> Davespice, I don't think there's any actual debate. Certianly not among the sort of people who would be on this channel.[12:41]<Davespice> I agree, it's a no brainer really :)[12:42]<shiftplusone> Nasa are having fun with it a bit early too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wimiRUHMI4[12:42]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #raspberrypi[12:42]* PiBot sets mode +v neilr[12:44]<Jck_true> Mentioning NASA.. Have they made their "History changing Mars discovery" public yet?[12:44]<shiftplusone> Didn't they say it was blown a bit out of proportion and there's nothing history changing to report?[12:45]<shiftplusone> Though when I put it that way.... conspiracy.... they have found old abandoned cities and are keeping it quiet. D=[12:45]<Jck_true> The aliens allready landed in Roswelt - The rest is just a cover up[12:46]<shiftplusone> =p true, but *Roswell[12:46]<Davespice> I think they either have evidence of past life, or maybe even present life - but they are making sure their data is completly sown up before they announce it, they will be plenty of academics out there who would love nothing more than to shoot them down and prove them wrong - so they're going to be ultra careful[12:47]<shiftplusone> Davespice, highly doubt it[12:47]<Davespice> they probably detected methane gas in the mass spectrometer or something, and continue to detect it every time (as a rough guess)[12:47]<Jck_true> Wouldn't the first step be just to locate organic material?[12:47]<Davespice> methane gas is organic[12:47]<Jck_true> Davespice: Yeah[12:48]<Davespice> so the gas is like a smoking gun (if you see what I mean)[12:48]<Jck_true> From what I know they haven't even found organic material on Mars yet - Just water[12:48]<Jck_true> Davespice: Farting cows! There's cows on mars![12:48]<shiftplusone> 'yet'? being a bit optimistic there, ey?[12:49]<Davespice> it might also be something to do with the past environment on mars, and they no know why mars lost most of its atmosphere (or something like that)[12:49]* jd823592 (5966c909@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.102.201.9) has joined #raspberrypi[12:49]* PiBot sets mode +v jd823592[12:49]<Davespice> now know*[12:49]<jd823592> Hi, anybody who runs Gentoo or Funtoo on raspberrypi?[12:49]<Jck_true> Funtoo? Sounds like something I should run for the laugh atleast :)[12:50]<jd823592> yeah, well anybody :D?[12:50]<tapout> sweet, ordered 2 raspberry pi's.. hope to join the party soon fellas ;)[12:51]<mrmoney2012> anyone help - i'm getting this error when trying to play a wav - ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ??? aplay: main:682: audio open error: Device or resource busy[12:51]<mrmoney2012> but then i keep issuing the command and it works[12:52]<jd823592> i wanted to run xorg but my package manager tried to pull in xf86-video-omapfb drivers which failed as they are outdated (at least in the repo) so do i need these?[12:54]<buZz> tapout: congratz![12:57]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[13:04]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) has joined #raspberrypi[13:04]* PiBot sets mode +v hyperair[13:05]<gordonDrogon> 6.5 minutes to go.[13:06]<Joeboy> I thought we had until December 21st?[13:06]<gordonDrogon> 12:12:12 12:12[13:07]<Joeboy> oh right[13:07]<artag> surely mayan predictions were't based on GMT ?[13:07]<Joeboy> doing anything to celebrate?[13:10]<tapout> Let's say I have a professional Mic... like XLR connection-type... is there a way to get it 'into' the raspberry pi... any interfaces?[13:11]<Joeboy> I would think you could use any class compliant usb interface[13:12]<Joeboy> of which there are plenty[13:12]* booyaa (~booyaa@hack.rs) has joined #raspberrypi[13:12]* PiBot sets mode +v booyaa[13:12]* booyaa (~booyaa@hack.rs) Quit (Client Quit)[13:13]<tapout> Joeboy, is that to me?[13:13]* int3nz0r (~int3nz0r@86.86.66.141) has joined #raspberrypi[13:13]* PiBot sets mode +v int3nz0r[13:13]<Joeboy> tapout: Yes[13:13]<Joeboy> tapout: I'd get a second opinion, but in general linux handles usb audio interfaces pretty well, unless their particularly weird in some way[13:13]<Joeboy> they're[13:14]<tanuva> tapout: I just got a m-audio fast track mk2, that works well with jack+ardour so far[13:14]<tanuva> using it for bass, but it also has mic in with phantom power[13:14]<tapout> but i don' think usb mics are 'directional'.. what I'm worried about is... when the mics feedback... we bought high quality mics that only have a certain "area" where it listens.. so you can stand in front of a speaker and it won't feedback[13:15]* booyaa (~booyaa@hack.rs) has joined #raspberrypi[13:15]* PiBot sets mode +v booyaa[13:15]<Joeboy> tapout: You don't want a usb mic, you want a usb interface, into which you can plug any mic you like[13:15]<tapout> tanuva, oh so you plug the mic into the xlr connection and it makes it work over usb?[13:15]<Joeboy> Yes[13:16]<tanuva> tapout: yes. But I have to admit I didn't test it with the Pi, just my desktop linux box[13:16]<tapout> do you think it's possible to run 4 mics on one raspberry pi?[13:16]<tanuva> I wonder if the Pi can handle "realtime" audio[13:17]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@50.115.106.250) has joined #raspberrypi[13:17]* PiBot sets mode +v kkimlabs[13:17]<Joeboy> tapout: I'm going to guess yes, but I don't really know[13:18]* jd823592 (5966c909@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.102.201.9) has left #raspberrypi[13:19]<tapout> so really, i can get a mixer that accepts 4 mics in.. that connects to usb and it should work, either way .. with or without the raspberry pi, i gotta do this :)[13:20]<Joeboy> tapout: I don't feel entirely qualified to assure you it'll work, but I can't see why it shouldn't.[13:21]* kkimlabs (~kkimlabs@50.115.106.250) Quit (Client Quit)[13:21]* Russ (~russ@pool-74-100-57-85.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:22]* markbook (~markllama@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[13:22]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[13:23]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) has joined #raspberrypi[13:23]* PiBot sets mode +v Patteh[13:23]<gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/121212121212.jpg[13:24]<gordonDrogon> woot :)[13:24]<BurtyB> heh[13:27]* deffrag_ (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:27]* deffrag (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) has joined #raspberrypi[13:27]* PiBot sets mode +v deffrag[13:27]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[13:27]* Jck_true wonders why nobody has ever invented C as a scripting language...[13:28]<Draylor> go write the interpreter[13:28]<Draylor> you'll work it out fairly quickly[13:28]<Armand> gordonDrogon, seems I'm still alive.... how about you?[13:29]* exobuzz (~buzz@2001:470:9773:0:9c55:670b:9c:6c60) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[13:29]<Jck_true> Draylor: I know but you could skip some of the things...[13:29]* RaTTuS|BIG (~Rattus.bi@80.4.146.163) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:29]* neilr is away: suffered a fiery fate in the apocolypse[13:29]<Joeboy> Jck_true: I'm sure it exists[13:29]* RaTTuS|BIG (~Rattus.bi@80.4.146.163) has joined #raspberrypi[13:29]* PiBot sets mode +v RaTTuS|BIG[13:30]<Jck_true> Joeboy: Absolutly right :D CSL - C Scripting Language - http://csl.sourceforge.net/[13:30]<Joeboy> Jck_true: https://code.google.com/p/picoc/[13:31]<shiftplusone> Armand, 21st, not 12th[13:33]* Russ (~russ@pool-74-100-57-85.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[13:33]* PiBot sets mode +v Russ[13:33]<Armand> You're right... it's not the 21st. O_o[13:33]* Armand smirks.[13:34]<shiftplusone> >=/[13:34]* Armand fluffles shiftplusone and runs away![13:35]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[13:35]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[13:35]<shiftplusone> But yes, we still have over a week to live, so it's ok.[13:36]<Armand> Best do... I'm planning my visit to NJ in February.[13:38]<Jck_true> Leet![13:39]<Joeboy> Armand: It's a bit concerning that gordonDrogon hasn't responded to your question[13:39]<gordonDrogon> Armand, yes, still OK here in the world of GMT ..[13:39]<Joeboy> :-)[13:39]<Armand> ^_^[13:39]<gordonDrogon> PHP is 'scriptable C' ...[13:39]<gordonDrogon> is a sloppy, lazy sort of way.[13:39]<gordonDrogon> with $ signs[13:39]<Joeboy> C-like syntax is everywhere[13:40]<jelly1> gordonDrogon: more perl like[13:40]<gordonDrogon> I guess technically that ought to be Algol-like syntax if you go back far enough...[13:40]<jelly1> anyonye know anything about mjpeg decoding btw?[13:42]<mrmoney2012> is this anything to worry about ? /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon[13:42]<mrmoney2012> rather concerning named process[13:42]<mrmoney2012> still would be a bit of a daft root kit if it was visible in a ps -ef list i guess[13:43]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:43]<Joeboy> That's probably "realtime", not "root"-kit[13:43]<jelly1> it is[13:43]* booyaa (~booyaa@hack.rs) has left #raspberrypi[13:45]<mrmoney2012> thanks[13:46]* tanuva would never name his rootkit "rootkit"[13:48]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:48]<gordonDrogon> rtkit is the realtime switcher - so that programs can ask to be scheduled in 'real time'.[13:48]<jelly1> prolly only usefull with linux-rt[13:49]<gordonDrogon> no,[13:49]<jelly1> hmmm[13:49]<gordonDrogon> it's useful for services that do stuff in real-time on a normal linux system - like audio[13:49]<gordonDrogon> normal linux has "real time" capabilities, they're just not as "hard" as a proper real- time system.[13:49]<jelly1> ah[13:50]<jelly1> hmm learned something new[13:50]* jelly1 has played with freeRTOS[13:50]* Linovia (~textual@put92-4-82-231-49-9.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #raspberrypi[13:50]* PiBot sets mode +v Linovia[13:50]* tanuva (~tanuva@e180076156.adsl.alicedsl.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:50]<gordonDrogon> I've written some real-time schedullers for projects I've woked on.[13:51]<jelly1> nice[13:51]<gordonDrogon> it's relatively easy to be specific for a project, harder to be generic...[13:51]<gordonDrogon> and I use some of the linux scheduller tweaks in wiringPi too - e.g. the softPwm code.[13:52]* Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk[13:53]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:55]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi[13:55]* PiBot sets mode +v SgrA[13:56]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[13:56]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[13:58]* Yen (yen@109.134.181.132) has joined #raspberrypi[13:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Yen[13:59]* Shift_ (~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) has joined #raspberrypi[13:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Shift_[14:00]* shiftplusone (~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) Quit (Disconnected by services)[14:00]* Shift_ is now known as shiftplusone[14:00]* stefan_a (~stefan_a@port-91635.pppoe.wtnet.de) has joined #raspberrypi[14:00]* PiBot sets mode +v stefan_a[14:02]* ahven (~kala@194.126.113.140) has joined #raspberrypi[14:02]* PiBot sets mode +v ahven[14:04]* shiftplusone (~Shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[14:09]* enr1x (~kiike@81.60.137.111.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:09]* PiBot sets mode +v enr1x[14:09]* DexterLB (~angel@95-42-30-153.btc-net.bg) Quit (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish)[14:11]<Davespice> does anyone know a way to see tred data on kick starter? as in to see if their trend of backers means they're on target for their goal[14:11]* DexterLB (~angel@95-42-30-153.btc-net.bg) has joined #raspberrypi[14:11]* PiBot sets mode +v DexterLB[14:12]<Draylor> there are sites tracking that sort of thing[14:12]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:12]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos^[14:12]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: kicktraq?[14:12]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: Random example: http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1703567677/icontrolpad-2-the-open-source-controller/[14:13]* Datalink|Elsewhe (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) has joined #raspberrypi[14:13]* Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:13]* PiBot sets mode +v Datalink|Elsewhe[14:13]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Client Quit)[14:13]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:13]<Davespice> ah[14:13]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos^[14:13]<Gadgetoid> Kicktraq is shiny[14:13]* xCP23x (~xCP23x@188-222-169-192.zone13.bethere.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[14:13]* PiBot sets mode +v xCP23x[14:13]<Joeboy> also http://canhekick.it/project/509859f08f6482550ba99a7b[14:14]* vipkilla (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/t-dot-zilla/x-2830497) has joined #raspberrypi[14:14]* PiBot sets mode +v vipkilla[14:14]<Davespice> oh no... http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/ =([14:14]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:14]* Couto (~15minutes@pdpc/supporter/active/couto) has joined #raspberrypi[14:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Couto[14:15]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:15]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:16]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:16]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:16]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:16]* felipealmeida (~user@querubim.tecgraf.puc-rio.br) has joined #raspberrypi[14:16]* PiBot sets mode +v felipealmeida[14:17]* vipkilla (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/t-dot-zilla/x-2830497) has left #raspberrypi[14:17]* jelly1 (~jelly12ge@archlinux/trusteduser/jelly1) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:18]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:19]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:19]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:19]* akiwiguy is now known as akiwiguy|away[14:19]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:19]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[14:19]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:20]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) has joined #raspberrypi[14:20]* PiBot sets mode +v Patteh[14:20]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:20]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:20]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:21]<[SLB]> funny update today for raspbian?[14:21]<[SLB]> After this operation, 97.7 MB of additional disk space will be used.[14:22]<scummos^> maybe it adds a fullhd animated boot logo[14:22]<[SLB]> 7 upgraded, 75 newly installed[14:22]<[SLB]> :o[14:23]<[SLB]> let me check what it wants to do[14:23]<scummos^> ...every frame in the logo has its own package?[14:23]<[SLB]> oh it's lxde[14:23]<[SLB]> hm, not sure[14:24]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:24]<scummos^> lxde updates are always good[14:24]<scummos^> go ahead[14:24]* pretty_function (~iHackiOS@61.12.96.10) Quit ()[14:26]<BCMM> where do you get wires that "plug in" to the GPIO pins? are they the same spec as mobo headers?[14:26]* pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) has joined #raspberrypi[14:26]* PiBot sets mode +v pats_Toms[14:26]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: be aware that Kickstarter is almost impossible to accurately trend[14:26]<scummos^> they're 2.54mm spacing, it's easy to buy those[14:27]<Davespice> Gadgetoid: is it based on snap shots then? as opposed to kickstarter's own api?[14:27]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: it's impossible to trend because it doesn't stick to trends, kickstarter funding is very sporadic and prone to sudden bursts of donations which these graphs don't take into account[14:28]<[SLB]> dupont cables[14:28]<[SLB]> these are the packages btw that it wants to install http://pastebin.com/MGt1RinE[14:28]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: I would bet money on Elite Dangerous being successfully funded[14:28]<Davespice> I agree, those can't be predicted - but it does record what has already occured?[14:29]<Gadgetoid> Davespice: doesn't really take it into account though[14:29]<Gadgetoid> I bet it will hit 1.5m or 2m[14:29]<artag> BCMM: http://www.oomlout.co.uk/jumper-wires-premium-femalefemale-21-x-300-mm-p-292.html[14:30]<BCMM> artag: shiny, thanks[14:30]* ahven (~kala@194.126.113.140) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:30]<artag> or search ebay for female jumper wires[14:30]<scummos^> isn't it somewhat weird for do funding for a product you want to commercially produce and sell?[14:31]<artag> i think most kickstarters are that. it's effectively a pre-order to ensure support[14:31]<neilr> was just looking for female jumper wires to provide a link, and found this: http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/solder-time-watch-p-1075.html - that's my Christmas pressie sorted.[14:31]<pats_Toms> someone can suggest me what Debian installation I need to choose for Raspberry?[14:31]<BCMM> scummos^: kickstarter projects typically gives people the first products off the line for their investment[14:31]<[SLB]> BCMM, i got dupont cables female to male for gpio-breadboard use[14:32]<pats_Toms> which architecture I mean[14:32]<scummos^> BCMM: yeah, but still ;)[14:32]<BCMM> scummos^: well, when done right, it's a way to bootstrap supply and demand[14:32]<scummos^> yes[14:32]<BCMM> i know kickstarter is far too open to abuse and all that[14:33]<scummos^> I'm not like against it, I'm just wondering[14:33]<artag> pats_Toms: get one from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads rather than debian's site[14:33]<scummos^> it seems like a pretty good way for a company to collect some extra money ;p[14:33]<BCMM> scummos^: well, it's basically just preorders[14:33]<BCMM> in the ideal situation, it reduces risk for everybody[14:34]<Hoerie> David Braben should release Elite 4 first, he's been working on it since 1998...[14:34]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[14:34]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[14:34]<scummos^> BCMM: yeah, ok. I guess you can see it like that.[14:35]<Hoerie> <+BCMM> in the ideal situation, it reduces risk for everybody <-- it places the risk with the people who pony up for the kickstarter instead of the devs[14:35]<BCMM> Hoerie: as i mentioned above, it needs more protection against straight-up fraud[14:35]<Hoerie> not delivering anything isn't really fraud though[14:36]<neilr> Hoerie: I think a lot of the screenshots and vids coming out of the elite:dangerous project are probably from work on elite 4 anyway[14:36]<Hoerie> kickstarter is just a no-guarantees 'investment'[14:36]<Hoerie> elite 4 wasn't supposed to be massivley multiplayer iirc[14:36]<BCMM> if a kickstarter doesn't reach teh required number of subscribers, nobody gets their money taken, right?[14:36]<nid0> right[14:37]<Hoerie> bcmm: I believe so, but getting the funds in no way guarantees anything ever materializing[14:37]<BCMM> that is more favourable than traditional vapourware preorder, where not enough people getting involved usually means it goes bust with everybody's money[14:37]<nid0> if it isnt 100%+ funded, they get no funds at all[14:37]<arcanescu> i beleive kickstarter will run into serious trouble soon anyway[14:38]<BCMM> the biggest problem is that there is absolutely no recourse if the project decides to just take the money and not ship anything on purpose[14:38]<nid0> sure there is[14:38]<arcanescu> i dont know if anyone read about that 3d printer being put on their ... and someone sued cuz it was infringment on their patent of someform[14:38]<Hoerie> things like kickstarter can certainly help against heavy investor involvement in projects, but it is really hard to assess the risks of giving money to kickstarter projects[14:38]<BCMM> which has basically happened already (art rather than tech project i think)[14:38]<nid0> the "on purpose" part there is key[14:38]<nid0> if they intentionally take the money and run, just contact your card supplier for a fraud refund[14:39]<arcanescu> well if you are paying 10$ for a project[14:39]<arcanescu> and there are 20000 backers[14:39]<arcanescu> would as an indivudual chase up 10$ with the bank?[14:39]<arcanescu> *would you[14:39]<Hoerie> you would also have to *know* that evilness is going on[14:40]<arcanescu> there is no way of knowing *evilness* ... people are good at scams[14:40]* scummos^ (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[14:40]<Hoerie> exactly, so mostly it would probably fit within kickstarter's terms and people would go "oh well, I lost ???20,-"[14:40]<BCMM> nid0: from kickstarter's terms "The Estimated Delivery Date listed on each reward is not a promise to fulfill by that date, but is merely an estimate of when the Project Creator hopes to fulfill by."[14:41]<nid0> BCMM: yes, and if a project falls flat on its face through bad luck/whatever then tough, but you said intentionally taking money and running, and fraud is fraud[14:41]* lord4163 (51e83d51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.232.61.81) has joined #raspberrypi[14:41]* PiBot sets mode +v lord4163[14:41]<BCMM> the PC can just drag things out forever without recourse, which is allegedly what is happening with certain projects[14:41]<lord4163> Hello[14:41]<arcanescu> Hoerie: exactly, but the someone did manage to make money and run.... there was a game that got shutdown... got funded.... realised its too much fired everybody and ran... pffttt[14:41]<lord4163> What filesystem do I have to format my SD card?[14:41]<arcanescu> as soon as people begin realise "i can get away with it" thats it for KS[14:42]<BCMM> nid0: it'd be a nightmare to prove fraud when indefinite delay is permissable[14:42]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:42]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:42]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:42]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:43]<Hoerie> not to mention that you might be in country x, the project might be spread across countries p q and r and kickstart might be in z[14:43]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:43]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:43]<arcanescu> as much as im for KS.... there are alot of grey areas to it... and i mean alot...[14:43]<lord4163> Can I format it as EXT4?[14:43]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: mrmoney2012)[14:43]<arcanescu> lord4163: yes ext4[14:44]<lord4163> So I make just 1 partition as EXT4?[14:44]<Gadgetoid> arcanescu: alot?[14:44]<Gadgetoid> Alot! http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html[14:44]<arcanescu> lord4163: 2 partitions 1 ext4 1 fat - fat = boot files ext4 = filesystem[14:44]* tanuva (~tanuva@e180076156.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #raspberrypi[14:44]* PiBot sets mode +v tanuva[14:44]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:44]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[14:44]<arcanescu> Gadgetoid: :)[14:44]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[14:45]<Gadgetoid> Kickstarter is a bit of a mine field[14:45]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:45]* PiBot sets mode +v ancdix[14:45]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[14:45]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P[14:45]<nid0> any investment is a risk, you make your own decisions on the feasability of the project you're paying for, and invest what you can afford to lose[14:45]<lord4163> Or I can remove all partitions and dd the image to it?[14:46]* Matt (matt@freenode/staff-emeritus/matt) has joined #raspberrypi[14:46]* PiBot sets mode +v Matt[14:46]<nid0> people forgetting that is why kickstarter just revamped the whole physical goods sections to make it clearer that you arent just preordering something.[14:46]<arcanescu> Gadgetoid: apart from the one hand take into account laziness[14:46]* Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[14:46]<Gadgetoid> arcanescu: Not calling you out for using "alot" it just reminds me of the lovable, cuddley Alot![14:47]<Hoerie> 'normal' investments generally have more responsibilities on the part of the entity invested in though[14:47]<Gadgetoid> Which should be shared more for its comedic value than any redundant lesson in chatroom grammar[14:47]<arcanescu> Gadgetoid: :) cute picture there though of that creature[14:47]<Gadgetoid> I want a pet alot[14:47]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[14:48]* lord4163 (51e83d51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.232.61.81) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[14:48]<neilr> lord4163: yes - dd the image to a card. If it's Raspbian, when you boot, you get an option to expand the root filesystem to fill the extra space on the card.[14:49]<nid0> Hoerie: typically only insofar as negligence and fraud are concerned, the latter of which is illegal anyway, if you invest in shares or even a managed fund you're accepting those shares may become totally worthless, if you invest in a cafe down the road you're accepting the risk they might go out of business in 2 weeks[14:49]* mrmoney2012_ (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:49]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012_[14:51]<Hoerie> generally companies that you can buy shares in are required to hold shareholder meetings etc[14:51]* dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f70ba44.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[14:52]<Hoerie> I haven't read kickstarter's terms, but I am pretty sure that the business model is to place risk on the 'investor'[14:52]<arcanescu> Hoerie: it is ive read them[14:53]<nid0> where it always is[14:53]<arcanescu> i had to read them because i was thinking of putting something up there[14:53]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:53]* mrmoney2012_ is now known as mrmoney2012[14:56]<Hoerie> <+nid0> where it always is <-- actually for software dev companies with external investors the risk can be on the software company (i.e. you owe the investor if you fail/are late/whatever)[14:56]<pats_Toms> why raspberry have that yellow rc connector?[14:57]<Hoerie> pats_Toms: so you can connect to non-hdmi video?[14:57]<pats_Toms> but do it works?[14:57]<Hoerie> uh, yes? why would it be there otherwise?[14:58]<pats_Toms> I just tried it... and got just random lines on my screen[14:59]<Hoerie> works on my stoneage tv[14:59]<nid0> Hoerie: only in the case of a sole trader or a company limited by guarantee, otherwise there's still no individual risk other than for the investor, and even for a sole trader/company limited by guarantee, the investor still has the risk that the trader/guarantor may default/be made bankrupt etc etc[15:00]<nid0> there is *always* ultimately risk on the investor for any investment[15:04]* Sakyl (~Sakyl@95-91-160-158-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #raspberrypi[15:04]* PiBot sets mode +v Sakyl[15:04]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:05]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi[15:05]* PiBot sets mode +v sraue[15:06]* ukgamer|away is now known as ukgamer[15:06]* Rootert (~Rootert@541F370E.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[15:06]* RagBal (~RagBal@541F370E.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[15:06]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[15:06]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[15:07]* akiwiguy|away (~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:08]* ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away[15:08]* akiwiguy (~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy) has joined #raspberrypi[15:08]* PiBot sets mode +v akiwiguy[15:08]* RagBal (~RagBal@541F370E.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[15:08]* PiBot sets mode +v RagBal[15:08]* Rootert (~Rootert@541F370E.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[15:08]* PiBot sets mode +v Rootert[15:09]* Vanfanel (~Chuck@79.109.49.9.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:09]* PiBot sets mode +v Vanfanel[15:09]* josteink (~jostein@2001:16d8:ee2c:0:ba27:ebff:fede:df0f) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:09]* ukgamer|away is now known as ukgamer[15:09]<Vanfanel> anybody has got distcc working on the Pi?[15:16]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-124-180-86-25.lns9.lon.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:16]* dero (~dero@p5B145953.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:16]* PiBot sets mode +v dero[15:17]* scorphus (~scorphus@CAcert/User/scorphus) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:17]* jprvita|afk is now known as jprvita[15:18]<Gadgetoid> Anyone want to write some wiringPi-* test rigs? :D[15:18]<dero> hi[15:18]<Gadgetoid> I think I'm going to have to breadboard myself a full test platform[15:18]<dero> anyone having a wifi adapter that does to sleep and doesn't wake up (like my EW-7811Un)?[15:18]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-124-181-101-4.vic.bigpond.net.au) has joined #raspberrypi[15:18]* PiBot sets mode +v Lord_DeathMatch[15:22]* Datalink|Elsewhe is now known as Datalink[15:22]<Datalink> http://youtu.be/JZshZp-cxKg[15:24]<dero> when doing rmmod 8192cu && modprobe 8192cu, Wifi is back[15:24]* jden (~jden@ec2-54-241-125-37.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 259 seconds)[15:25]* dmmedia (~frolode@fw-hki.ixonos.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:25]* PiBot sets mode +v dmmedia[15:25]* lollo64it (~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it) has joined #raspberrypi[15:25]* PiBot sets mode +v lollo64it[15:26]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:26]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:26]* PiBot sets mode +v ReggieUK[15:26]* ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK[15:26]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Quit: something went very wrong)[15:27]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@241.Red-83-49-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:27]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[15:28]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:32]* Jck_true (furyfire@unaffiliated/jcktrue/x-390518) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[15:32]* Peace- (~quassel@151.62.63.102) has joined #raspberrypi[15:32]* PiBot sets mode +v Peace-[15:32]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) has joined #raspberrypi[15:32]* PiBot sets mode +v neilr[15:32]<Peace-> :))[15:32]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@241.Red-83-49-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:34]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@241.Red-83-49-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:34]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[15:38]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[15:38]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[15:39]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: .)[15:39]* PiZZaMaN2K (~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k) has joined #raspberrypi[15:39]* PiBot sets mode +v PiZZaMaN2K[15:47]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[15:47]* gabriel9|work (~quassel@9-133-241-92-ptp.stat.customer.blic.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:48]* PiZZaMaN2K (~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:48]* Peace- (~quassel@151.62.63.102) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:49]<gazzwi86> how can i connect to a network via CLI?[15:49]<gazzwi86> its a protected network[15:50]<neilr> What do you mean "connect to a network via CLI?"[15:50]<gazzwi86> command line interface[15:51]<Joeboy> like, with ifconfig?[15:51]<neilr> No, I meant, what do you mean by "connect to a network"[15:51]<neilr> what resources are you trying to use there?[15:51]* dipstick (~dipstick@unaffiliated/jms1989) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:51]<gazzwi86> I have a wifi dongle and a secured network i want to auto connect to on boot[15:51]* dipstick (~dipstick@unaffiliated/jms1989) has joined #raspberrypi[15:51]* markbook (~markllama@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:51]* PiBot sets mode +v dipstick[15:52]<gazzwi86> I've been looking at[15:52]<gazzwi86> wicd[15:52]* alexBr (~alex@p4FEA3701.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:52]<neilr> I don't understand the question. Linux networking doesn't depend on a GUI of any kind.[15:52]<Joeboy> wicd and network manager are the things to look at, I think[15:52]<neilr> Set the config in /etc/network/interfaces[15:53]<neilr> then to connect to, say, a samba share, use mount.cifs for example[15:53]<Joeboy> there's nmcli for network manager, apparently[15:53]<mafi> wicd is pretty nice to use[15:53]<mafi> and doesent require gnome stuff[15:54]<nid0> why dyou need anything like that, connecting to a wifi network is like 4 lines in /etc/network/interfaces[15:54]<mafi> the problem with gnome pakages is, that they always have many dependencies[15:54]<mafi> nid0: it depends on the wlan[15:55]<mafi> if you have stuff like certificates etc.[15:55]<neilr> But you don't need any packages installed to get an IP address from a network[15:55]<megaproxy> how do i auto start X?[15:55]* bin_bash (~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:55]<mafi> neilr: yes sure, but that does not always aply to wirelss lan[15:56]<mafi> megaproxy: which distro are you using?[15:56]* tanuva (~tanuva@e180076156.adsl.alicedsl.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:57]<megaproxy> raspian[15:57]<megaproxy> i kinda skipped the initial setup[15:57]<megaproxy> :P[15:57]<neilr> Granted, that depends on the kernel - but as soon as the interface is available, you just configure it in /etc/network/interfaces - you don't need any special tools for that[15:57]<Datalink> raspi-config can be relaunched at any time if you missed something in initial setup megaproxy[15:57]<megaproxy> oh how do i do that?[15:57]<nid0> "./raspi-config"[15:57]<nid0> but without the ./[15:58]<Datalink> raspi-config[15:58]* codemagician_ (~anon@ppp-110-169-250-17.revip5.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi[15:58]* PiBot sets mode +v codemagician_[15:58]<Datalink> ./ is to run something from local directory[15:58]<mafi> neilr: that has nothing to do with the kernel ^^[15:59]<megaproxy> aweomse![15:59]<mafi> neilr: im talking about certifcate handling etc[16:00]* cdan_ (~cdan@mail.savatech.ro) has joined #raspberrypi[16:00]* PiBot sets mode +v cdan_[16:01]<neilr> I can't help feeling that we're talking at cross-purposes here :) Or maybe about different layers of the network.[16:01]<mafi> if you have stuff like radius server[16:02]* codemagician (~anon@ppp-115-87-125-87.revip4.asianet.co.th) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:02]* codemagician_ is now known as codemagician[16:02]* pats_Toms (~pats_Toms@78.84.194.143) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:02]* Couto (~15minutes@pdpc/supporter/active/couto) has left #raspberrypi[16:03]<mafi> neilr: with standard ethernet interfaces, you are right. but wireless lan interfaces are different[16:03]<neilr> Yup - but a RADIUS server will authenticate for connection to a device, not a network[16:03]<mafi> neilr: yes but you need a certificate handling and user handling[16:03]<mafi> on the client side[16:04]<mafi> you cannot do that directly in ifconfig with just 4 lines:)[16:04]<neilr> Agreed on that point :)[16:04]<mafi> you also have to enter the wpa2 pw[16:04]<neilr> Which you can do in /etc/network/interfaces[16:04]* cdan_ (~cdan@mail.savatech.ro) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[16:05]<mafi> neilr: yes but sometimes you have to convert the string in hex and so on :)[16:05]<mafi> im just saying it is easier, to use ifconfig wrapper[16:05]<mafi> which handles those stuff for you[16:06]<neilr> Again, agreed - wpa_passphrase is a pain in the neck[16:06]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:06]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[16:06]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[16:06]* cdan_ (~cdan@mail.savatech.ro) has joined #raspberrypi[16:06]* PiBot sets mode +v cdan_[16:07]* Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:12]<neilr> gazzwi86: http://www.ronketti.org.uk/network.html - sorry about the formatting, I just pasted this from my wiki - but this might help.[16:13]<arcanescu> bcmrpi_defconfig -> is this the default kernel config for the kernel image which ships with the pi ?[16:13]* nid0 (nidO@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-17.interdsl.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:13]* nid0 (nidO@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-17.interdsl.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[16:13]* PiBot sets mode +v nid0[16:14]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) has joined #raspberrypi[16:14]* PiBot sets mode +v Jever[16:14]* matejv (~matej@188-230-133-101.dynamic.t-2.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:14]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@209-112-40-2.dedicated.allstream.net) has joined #raspberrypi[16:14]* PiBot sets mode +v ozymandias_[16:15]* DexterLB (~angel@95-42-30-153.btc-net.bg) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:16]* Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) has joined #raspberrypi[16:16]* PiBot sets mode +v Datalink[16:17]<arcanescu> ?? ummm?[16:18]<gazzwi86> thanks neilr tried the interface file route first with no luck[16:18]<gazzwi86> working through this now[16:19]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[16:19]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[16:21]* Shaan7 (~quassel@kde/developer/shantanu) has joined #raspberrypi[16:21]* PiBot sets mode +v Shaan7[16:21]* DexterLB (~angel@95-42-30-153.btc-net.bg) has joined #raspberrypi[16:21]* PiBot sets mode +v DexterLB[16:23]* redarrow (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) has joined #raspberrypi[16:23]* PiBot sets mode +v redarrow[16:25]* shurizzle (~shura@unaffiliated/shurizzle) has joined #raspberrypi[16:25]* PiBot sets mode +v shurizzle[16:32]<Vanfanel> wohoo!! distcc working!! Raspberry Pi compiling FAST as lighting in a network server!! Yayyyyy!!![16:34]<Datalink> how many in the cluster?[16:36]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[16:36]* PiBot sets mode +v lord4163[16:36]<lord4163> What is this ? Everywhere documentation for Windows and for Linux users: use dd -_[16:36]<lord4163> I don't get it?[16:36]<gordonDrogon> dd is good.[16:37]<gordonDrogon> what do you want to use dd for?[16:37]<lord4163> MBR, GPUID? FAT? EXT? What do I have to format it to? and what device do I need for my output mmblabla or mmblabla1[16:37]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[16:37]* tanuva (~tanuva@dslb-178-007-147-032.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[16:37]* PiBot sets mode +v tanuva[16:37]<megaproxy> question[16:37]<megaproxy> i have a old vga monitor[16:38]<megaproxy> is there anyway to hook this up to the pi?[16:38]<Gadgetoid> megaproxy: Not an easy/cheap way[16:38]<lord4163> you need an adapter[16:38]<gordonDrogon> lord4163, if creating a new sd card image, you'd not normally format the sd card.[16:38]<megaproxy> hm[16:38]<megaproxy> ok[16:38]<megaproxy> well if it has component in, that will make it easy[16:38]<megaproxy> but i dont thing it does[16:38]<lord4163> o.0[16:39]<Datalink> component in or DVI[16:39]<gordonDrogon> lord4163, the dd program is essentially a block copy program. it will copy stuff - usually files to/from devices.[16:39]<megaproxy> yea it wont be dvi[16:39]* deep13 (~deep13@c-71-56-122-103.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ...)[16:39]<lord4163> I tried it now several times and get stupid errors when mounting it[16:39]<nid0> the rpi setup guide also does provide quite clear instructions on preparing a card using dd in nix[16:39]<gordonDrogon> you don't mount it before the dd.[16:39]<lord4163> And it takes hours 1.9GB 0.o Ubuntu is even less o.0[16:39]<Datalink> it should be unmounted before the DD[16:40]<Datalink> a lot of that is empty space, the image is actually 2 partitions set to work with the standard 2 GB SD card[16:40]<lord4163> So MBR? GPUID don't have to make any partitions?[16:40]<nid0> no[16:40]<nid0> you just dd the image to an unpartitioned, unformatted card[16:40]<Datalink> lord4163, all that is in the image already, you're DDing to the block device, and replacing the filesystems[16:41]<Datalink> it's kinda like burning a CD only with an SD card[16:41]<lord4163> Ok, MBR or GPUID?[16:41]<megaproxy> if you are really stuck or confused[16:41]<megaproxy> there is a GUI to do this on both windows and linux[16:42]<megaproxy> you just tell it what image to put on[16:42]<megaproxy> and it will format etc[16:42]<lord4163> Unetbootin?[16:42]<nid0> the guide on doing so through command line really couldnt be much clearer though[16:42]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[16:42]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos[16:42]<megaproxy> nid0, i know[16:42]<megaproxy> but some people may not get it ;/[16:42]<lord4163> Can I use unetbootin or something ?[16:42]<megaproxy> no idea what that is[16:43]<nid0> if you're on ubuntu you can just use imagewriter[16:43]<gordonDrogon> or just type the command..[16:43]<nid0> a process which, also, is clearly explained on the pi sd card setup page[16:43]<megaproxy> lord4163, http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup[16:44]<megaproxy> http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup#Copying_an_image_to_the_SD_card_in_Linux_.28graphical_interface.29[16:44]<gordonDrogon> 1. inset blank SD card. 2. Type dd if=raspian.img of= /dev/mmcblk0 bs=8m[16:44]<gordonDrogon> wait.[16:44]<gordonDrogon> remove card when done, put into Pi. power on. enjoy.[16:44]<megaproxy> what if your card isnt mmcblk0[16:44]<megaproxy> ...[16:44]<gordonDrogon> well, it's not hard to work out - dmesg will tell you.[16:44]<megaproxy> i know[16:45]<megaproxy> but if he did that and nothign happened...[16:45]<megaproxy> or somehow magically got the main drive[16:45]<megaproxy> :|[16:45]* megaproxy goes back to work[16:45]<gordonDrogon> more built-in readers will be /dev/mmcblk0 - usb ones might looks like a scsi drive.[16:45]<gordonDrogon> /dev/sdX[16:45]<lord4163> Well I checked that ofcource, I ain't so stupid :([16:45]<Datalink> then you replace /dev/mmcblk0 the mountpoint of your sd card itself, /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1[16:45]<megaproxy> gordonDrogon, yea thats how mine was seen[16:45]<megaproxy> sd something[16:45]<lord4163> Yeah, but it has two names /dev/mmcblk0 and /dev/mmcblk0p1[16:46]<nid0> no, it has 1 name[16:46]<gordonDrogon> ignore hte p1 one.[16:46]<nid0> the p1 is a partition[16:46]<megaproxy> p1 is a partition[16:46]<Datalink> p1 is existing partition 1, that'll actually be replaced...[16:46]<lord4163> Well I just try it some more times :)[16:46]<nid0> step 6 of the guide explains that quite thoroughly[16:46]<Datalink> after the process you should have /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2[16:46]<lord4163> Ok, so MBR, remove partitions and dd?[16:47]<nid0> just dd.[16:47]<gordonDrogon> is the hotpi person here?[16:47]<Datalink> you don't actually need to remove partitions[16:47]* emba (~emba@87.112.147.210) has joined #raspberrypi[16:47]* PiBot sets mode +v emba[16:47]<Datalink> dd replaces the MBR[16:47]<megaproxy> random Q[16:47]<emba> hey all, quick gpio question if anyone can help[16:47]<Datalink> random A[16:47]<megaproxy> how do i get my terminal windows to tile on ubuntu?[16:47]<megaproxy> instead of just opening new ones and getting messy[16:48]<lord4163> I'll try :)[16:48]<Datalink> I have no idea megaproxy, what's the terminal app?[16:48]<emba> im using an adc to read from an analog sensor with a python script[16:48]<megaproxy> whatever one comes with ubuntu[16:48]<megaproxy> :|[16:48]<neilr> DDing a .img just blows everything away - a bit like burning a .iso to a CD - you don't need to prepare the media in advance[16:48]<Datalink> then I donno... x.X[16:48]<megaproxy> poop[16:48]<megaproxy> not sure what to search on google[16:48]<megaproxy> i think its a tiller?[16:48]<megaproxy> or something[16:48]<gordonDrogon> emba, I presume you have some sort of A/D converter?[16:49]<emba> yeah using the abelectronics adcpi[16:49]<emba> i have it readind the sensors fine[16:49]* Vanfanel (~Chuck@79.109.49.9.dyn.user.ono.com) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[16:49]<emba> but i wanted to add an output to an led[16:49]* TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) has joined #raspberrypi[16:49]* PiBot sets mode +v TimRiker[16:50]<emba> but when i add import RPi.GPIO as GPIO i get no module found[16:50]<emba> can i not use i2c and gpio together?[16:50]* TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) has left #raspberrypi[16:51]<Datalink> provided you're not using the i2c pins, you should be able to use other GPIO pins[16:51]<gazzwi86> neilr: can you see anything wrong with my config: https://gist.github.com/4268879[16:51]<gazzwi86> I've added the router insfo below[16:51]<emba> i thought so but the module wont import[16:52]* eni23 (~eni@227-241.194-178.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #raspberrypi[16:52]* PiBot sets mode +v eni23[16:52]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@241.Red-83-49-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[16:52]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) Quit (Quit: lord4163)[16:54]* codemagician (~anon@ppp-110-169-250-17.revip5.asianet.co.th) Quit (Quit: codemagician)[16:54]* Natch (~Natch@c-a9cfe155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:54]<gordonDrogon> emba, can't really help you I'm afraid - I don't do python..[16:55]<eni23> hello at all. i would like to use an raspi as primary domain controller for windows ads-networks. are there any problems to expect (i mean beside the samba&kerberos stuff, raspberry related stuff)[16:55]<emba> i wish i did it better than i do! :P[16:55]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[16:55]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[16:56]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has joined #raspberrypi[16:56]* PiBot sets mode +v kurtis_[16:56]<scummos> emba: you can but you need the python libs for it[16:56]<eni23> emba: just joined, what's your question? im pretty familiar with the snake[16:56]<scummos> http://lwk.mjhosting.co.uk/?p=343[16:57]<kurtis_> are there technical hurdles preventing raspbian from running the oracle-jvm, or is it just that oracle doesn't release their jvm for the arm 6?[16:57]<emba> trying to light an led in response to an analog sensor read[16:57]<scummos> emba: see link[16:58]* Syco54645_work (~frank@75-145-36-145-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #raspberrypi[16:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Syco54645_work[16:58]<neilr> gazzwi86: that looks OK at first glance. Are you not getting connected to the access point? Or not getting an IP address?[16:58]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi[16:58]* PiBot sets mode +v oldtopman[16:58]<eni23> emba: that's easy. can you read your sensor allready?[16:58]* codemagician (~anon@ppp-110-169-250-17.revip5.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi[16:58]* PiBot sets mode +v codemagician[16:58]<emba> its working fine separately[16:58]<gazzwi86> No IP[16:59]<neilr> Right - do you have a DHCP server set up?[16:59]<emba> if im just working with digital it imports the RPi.GPIO module fine[16:59]<gazzwi86> I don't think I'm even connected to the device[16:59]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[16:59]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[16:59]<neilr> What does iwconfig show?[16:59]<Syco54645_work> so i have 2 spare raspberrypi. they didnt work out for what i wanted do. they are the 512. anyone interested?[16:59]<gazzwi86> yeh we have dhcp[16:59]<Syco54645_work> turns out i only need 1 now[16:59]<emba> but when i have quick2wire.i2c imported it says RPi.GPIO cannot be loaded[17:00]<mrmoney2012> am getting a lot of these messages in logs Dec 12 15:54:13 rasp-pi kernel: [ 248.971314] delay: estimated 0, actual 177[17:00]<Datalink> Syco54645_work, tempting... but my budget's strapped till the first >.<[17:00]<gazzwi86> neilr: iwconfig data : https://gist.github.com/4268879[17:00]<Joeboy> Syco54645_work: Where are you?[17:00]<eni23> emba: 1 min better reading channel logs first[17:00]<Syco54645_work> i an in eastern pennsylvania[17:00]<Joeboy> ah, that's a really long way away[17:01]<Syco54645_work> i will ship in the us for free[17:01]<Syco54645_work> should probably state that[17:01]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) Quit ()[17:01]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:01]<emba> thanks, if my replies are delayed its because im at work, just messing with some pi stuff on the side[17:02]<neilr> gazzwi86: looks to me like you've got a good association with the access point, on channel 11. What does ifconfig show?[17:02]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi[17:02]* PiBot sets mode +v pksato[17:06]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[17:06]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon[17:07]<eni23> emba: can you talk to the chip with the i2cget & i2cset commands?[17:08]<emba> yeah thats no problem, it works fine to read the sensors via the adc or just using gpio[17:09]<emba> its just when i try to add "import RPi.GPIO as GPIO" i get "Import error: No module named RPi.GPIO"[17:09]<scummos> emba: did you intall the module[17:10]<emba> yeah im using occidentalist its preinstalled[17:10]* ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[17:10]* PiBot sets mode +v ReggieUK[17:10]* ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK[17:11]<emba> if it wasnt installed the led lighting script wouldnt work on its own right?[17:11]* ninjak (~ninjak@77.239.137.142) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via)[17:12]<emba> or do i have to install it somewhere specific for it to work with quick2wire?[17:13]<eni23> emba: did you do the setup of rpi.gpio[17:13]<scummos> yes that's what I'm trying to ask ;)[17:13]<scummos> did you install the python rpi.gpio module[17:13]* nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) has joined #raspberrypi[17:13]* PiBot sets mode +v nils_2[17:14]<emba> no its already installed as standard on the adafruit distro as is i2c[17:14]<emba> should i reinstall it?[17:14]* nyrb (~nyrb@64-148-253-143.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:14]<scummos> if you type import RPi.GPIO as GPIO and it fails then it obviously is not installed.[17:14]<scummos> why do you think it would be installed[17:14]<emba> but it works with other scripts ive written[17:15]<scummos> this very import command?[17:15]<emba> no errors[17:15]<emba> yes[17:15]* ka6sox-away is now known as zz_ka6sox-away[17:15]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) has joined #raspberrypi[17:15]<scummos> where is it installed?[17:15]* PiBot sets mode +v [SkG][17:15]<scummos> globally, somewhere?[17:15]<emba> yep, its worked fine when using digital stuff still does[17:16]<emba> its just when i try to use it alongside the adc i2c module it seems to wig out[17:16]<eni23> emba: open a python shell. then try your import-command. pleas do this as root and normal user and tell us the results[17:17]<scummos> also pastebin your script[17:18]<emba> ah it works in python but not python3[17:18]<emba> thats my problem![17:18]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) has joined #raspberrypi[17:18]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[17:19]<emba> so next question how do i get it to work in python3[17:19]<eni23> emba: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=12867[17:20]<emba> thanks![17:21]<Gadgetoid> Using WiringPi-Python, :D :D[17:21]* neilr (~neilr@54.25.187.81.in-addr.arpa) Quit (Quit: something went very wrong)[17:21]<Gadgetoid> ( which I need to actually maintain :( )[17:21]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) Quit ()[17:22]* sweet_kid (having@irc.upasna.in) has joined #raspberrypi[17:22]* PiBot sets mode +v sweet_kid[17:22]<emba> i have used wiringpi-python before now, dont remember what for though, im still getting my head round all this[17:23]* scorphus (~scorphus@CAcert/User/scorphus) has joined #raspberrypi[17:23]* PiBot sets mode +v scorphus[17:23]<Gadgetoid> emba: I've been neglecting wiringpi-python, so it's probably not widely used or documented, aiming to change that now I've got my proverbial together[17:23]<emba> its just not as simple as 48k basic was! or my brain is getting slower in my old age![17:23]<Gadgetoid> emba: Python and Perl are breaking my brain, too[17:24]* cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe[17:24]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) has joined #raspberrypi[17:24]* PiBot sets mode +v Jeffsi[17:24]* eni23 is using c :P[17:24]<scummos> setup stuff sucks in every language[17:24]<scummos> ... including C[17:25]<eni23> scummos: sucks even more in c[17:25]<emba> c scares me![17:26]<scummos> yes but the advantage in C is that there's thousands of people who do not know how to set it up and thus there's a lot of documentation on the internet ;)[17:27]<emba> true but i told myself ill work up to it, python>java>c[17:27]<scummos> if you omit the java step then that might work[17:27]<eni23> emba: if you want to to hardware-related stuff beside the raspi you NEED to use c or asm[17:28]<scummos> yes, C and python are not like "better" than either one[17:28]<scummos> they're just suitable for different purposes[17:28]<emba> is java that bad? i work with phones a lot so thought java would be useful for android stuff[17:28]<scummos> in my opinion, forget about java and learn C/C++ instead[17:28]<scummos> and a good scripting language like python[17:29]<eni23> scummos: totally agree. but im not like c++[17:29]<scummos> C++ isn't that bad as long as you stick to not using 80% of its features[17:30]<emba> you may well have a point, i just felt i should have another stepping stone to c[17:30]<scummos> which kinda happens automatically if you use a good framework like Qt[17:30]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) has joined #raspberrypi[17:30]* PiBot sets mode +v Patteh[17:30]<xrosnight> i am going to order raspberry pi from Taobao.com( Made in China) 2morrow... at a price of 290 Yuan = 46.4 U.S. dollars = 29 Pounds including mailing fee, VAT( Value Added Tax) with a ethernet cable as a gift. how do you guys think of that?[17:30]<eni23> xrosnight: its cheaper on farnell[17:30]<scummos> emba: C, in fact, is very simple. it might be a bit difficult to get into but once you understand the basics it's really very simple.[17:30]<egrouse> im sure i paid more than that from farnell eni23[17:30]<scummos> it's not like it could do much more than copy bytes around in memory[17:30]<egrouse> as thats including shipping adn tax[17:31]<emba> its probably not as big and scary as i imagine it to be[17:31]<scummos> C surely is not[17:31]<Joeboy> scummos: simple != easy though[17:31]<scummos> C++ is a bit scary[17:31]<scummos> Joeboy: yes[17:31]<eni23> egrouse: i payed $35+5$ ship coast[17:31]* enr1x (~kiike@81.60.137.111.dyn.user.ono.com) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[17:31]<scummos> but if you do C++ like "C with classes and methods and templates" then you'll be fine imo :D[17:31]<xrosnight> eni23, i have to say, element14 in China runs out of quantities....[17:31]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:32]<egrouse> mine was ??33.16 inc vat & pnp[17:32]<eni23> xrosnight: um no idea then. i ordered in switzerland[17:32]* AeroNotix (~xeno@ccn242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[17:32]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[17:32]<xrosnight> eni23, where are you? you only paid 40 dollars?[17:33]<gordonDrogon> C is ok.[17:33]<gordonDrogon> but I have been progrmaming with it for over 30 years now...[17:33]* kurtis_ (u7213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygipydjrtiexbjt) has left #raspberrypi[17:33]* codemagician (~anon@ppp-110-169-250-17.revip5.asianet.co.th) Quit (Quit: codemagician)[17:33]<eni23> xrosnight: switzerland. actually only 34.50$ for the device.. but have to say im buisness-coustomer at farnell[17:33]<gordonDrogon> although I did a bit stint in bcpl onceuponatime too.[17:33]<Gadgetoid> All OSes suck and all programming languages suck, it's a universal truth of computing[17:33]* Natch (~Natch@c-a9cfe155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #raspberrypi[17:33]* PiBot sets mode +v Natch[17:34]<eni23> Gadgetoid: i dont think so[17:34]<xrosnight> eni23, it might be cheaper in Europe now. cause it is in shortage in Asia now. I am in China. Did they add VAT?[17:34]* Visage (~visage@pdpc/supporter/active/visage) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[17:34]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@209-112-40-2.dedicated.allstream.net) Quit (Quit: ozymandias_)[17:35]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:35]<eni23> xrosnight: dont have to pay VAT if you live in switzerland..[17:35]<scummos> Gadgetoid: but some suck even more than others![17:35]* smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[17:36]* smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) has joined #raspberrypi[17:36]* PiBot sets mode +v smw[17:36]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[17:36]* PiBot sets mode +v lord4163[17:36]<xrosnight> eni23, that's your benefit then.. great news for you, not for me. In China we have to pay for the VAT at a rate which ranges from 17% to 25%[17:37]<emba> ours doesnt change we had a temporary increase to 20#5 and it stayed there![17:37]<gazzwi86> neilr: sorry, i got a phone call[17:38]<emba> 20% evev, dont know what happened there[17:38]<eni23> xrosnight: wow 25% sucks.. then i think $46 is a good price[17:38]<gazzwi86> neiilr: https://gist.github.com/4268879[17:38]<gazzwi86> I address the output of ifconfig[17:39]* bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@238.Red-193-152-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:39]* PiBot sets mode +v bizarro_1[17:39]<xrosnight> eni23, have to admit that. U.S. citizens have to face the same thing as me, so i am not alone, lol[17:39]<gazzwi86> neilr: the eth0 port is connected at the moment though so I can access the machine from my mac, it has an IP address etc[17:40]<eni23> xrosnight: you are not alone. all eu states have a high vat too[17:40]<scummos> yeah, 19% here in germany[17:41]<eni23> scummos:yup really cool, if i order something from germany, germany have to pay me the vat back :)[17:41]<scummos> ;D[17:41]<scummos> lucky you[17:41]<lord4163> Anyone knows about ESD grounders?[17:42]<nid0> know what about them?[17:42]<xrosnight> anyone who wants to order SD card, HDMI-VGA cable, cheap keyboard and mouse, monitor, or usb-wifi device, i can help maybe[17:42]<lord4163> I bought such a bracelet I can just connect it to the socket?[17:42]<nid0> yes[17:43]<SpeedEvil> yes lord4163[17:43]<emba> you can just use a bit of wire connected to a radiator[17:43]<lord4163> Won't I get toasted when there are ground faults?[17:43]<steve_rox> is that the wrist strap with a plug on it with earth only?[17:43]* Sakyl (~Sakyl@95-91-160-158-dynip.superkabel.de) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[17:43]<SpeedEvil> lord4163: it should have a resistor in the lead, of 1m or so[17:43]<SpeedEvil> M[17:43]<SpeedEvil> so, no[17:44]<lord4163> Yeah 50 ohm[17:44]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[17:44]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[17:44]* harbaum (~quassel@2001:8d8:1fe:8:f1bb:9436:797b:914b) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[17:44]<eni23> to ask again. anyone has some experience with an raspi as pdc in a windows-network? is it fast enough for profile roaming?[17:44]<lord4163> Such one http://microshop.se/shop/showItem.asp?artnr=AS-101&vg=239[17:45]<lord4163> So I can safely connect it to the outlet without getting toasted? :)[17:46]<pksato> lord4163: It to be safe to use.[17:46]<lord4163> okay[17:46]<eni23> lord4163: only to ground!!![17:47]* lars_t_h (~lars_t_h@002129167171.mbb.telenor.dk) has joined #raspberrypi[17:47]* PiBot sets mode +v lars_t_h[17:47]<pksato> But, best way is to prevent electrostatic acumulation.[17:47]<lord4163> eni23: yes :D[17:48]<SpeedEvil> lord4163: 50 ohm is _way_ too low for an ESD bracelet[17:48]<eni23> im using a esd pad. but this stuff is not cheap[17:48]<lord4163> ah well, better than nothing right? :P[17:49]* Sakyl (~Sakyl@95-91-160-158-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #raspberrypi[17:49]* PiBot sets mode +v Sakyl[17:49]* tanuva (~tanuva@dslb-178-007-147-032.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[17:50]<SpeedEvil> lord4163: no[17:50]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-5f761a7a.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[17:50]* PiBot sets mode +v peetaur2[17:50]<SpeedEvil> lord4163: are you sure you're reading the resistor right?[17:51]<lord4163> no sorry haha[17:52]<nid0> I suspect he's probably seeing the resistance of the band itself[17:52]<lord4163> 10^4+10^6[17:52]<lord4163> :D[17:53]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:53]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) Quit (Quit: Jeffsi)[17:54]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[17:54]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[17:55]<dipstick> an esd pad needs 1M OHM or greater.[17:56]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[17:56]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[17:56]* cave (~cave@188-22-98-30.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #raspberrypi[17:56]* PiBot sets mode +v cave[17:57]* emba (~emba@87.112.147.210) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:00]* Syco54645_work (~frank@75-145-36-145-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has left #raspberrypi[18:00]* tanuva (~tanuva@dslb-178-007-147-032.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:00]* PiBot sets mode +v tanuva[18:00]* ancdix (~ancdix@vodsl-2142.vo.lu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:01]<Gadgetoid> Right, freakin' curry time![18:01]* stardiviner (~stardivin@122.236.242.191) has joined #raspberrypi[18:01]* PiBot sets mode +v stardiviner[18:01]<echelon> eich[18:01]* Lord_DeathMatch (Lord_Death@CPE-124-181-101-4.vic.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:02]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[18:02]* ShiftPlusOne (~shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) has joined #raspberrypi[18:02]* PiBot sets mode +v ShiftPlusOne[18:04]* scorphus (~scorphus@CAcert/User/scorphus) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:05]* BurtyB (~chris@murphy1.8086.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:06]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)[18:07]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: mrmoney2012)[18:07]* effbiai (~effbiai@235.10.45.31.customer.cdi.no) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:07]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD293C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[18:07]* PiBot sets mode +v NIN101[18:10]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[18:10]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) has joined #raspberrypi[18:10]* PiBot sets mode +v m8[18:11]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:12]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD293C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Disconnected by services)[18:12]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD293C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[18:12]* PiBot sets mode +v NIN101[18:12]<axion> wow, six 12's on my clock atm[18:12]* NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD293C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:15]* Visage (~visage@pdpc/supporter/active/visage) has joined #raspberrypi[18:15]* PiBot sets mode +v Visage[18:15]<gazzwi86> can anyone help me? I'm having real trouble connecting to my network with my wifi dongle. I want it to do it on boot, no need for interaction: https://gist.github.com/4268879[18:15]* BurtyB (~chris@murphy1.8086.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:15]* PiBot sets mode +v BurtyB[18:17]* m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) has joined #raspberrypi[18:17]* PiBot sets mode +v m8[18:18]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) has joined #raspberrypi[18:18]* PiBot sets mode +v mrcan[18:19]<gazzwi86> please? :)[18:21]<scummos> gazzwi86: what happens?[18:21]<buZz> is it CCMP?[18:21]<buZz> not TKIP?[18:22]<gazzwi86> scummos: well once I try and connect to the pi from my machine I get nothing[18:22]<gazzwi86> buZz: its WPA2 so I went for CCMP[18:23]<buZz> you selected WPA1[18:23]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:23]<buZz> gazzwi86: why not use wpa-cli or wpa-gui to configure it?[18:23]<gazzwi86> buZz: is it just wpa-proto WPA i need to change to WPA2[18:23]<scummos> do you want to boot to consol[18:23]<scummos> e[18:24]<scummos> if no, just install networkmanager and use nm-applet or so[18:24]<gazzwi86> I want to boot to console, with a few start up items[18:24]<gazzwi86> this being the first[18:24]* intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) has joined #raspberrypi[18:24]* PiBot sets mode +v intothev01d[18:24]<gazzwi86> how would I use pa-cli[18:24]<gazzwi86> wpa-cli[18:25]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[18:25]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[18:25]<gazzwi86> ^ buZz[18:26]<buZz> i am not sure, i used wpa-gui :P[18:26]<buZz> but wpa-cli configures the exact same things[18:26]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[18:26]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[18:26]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Client Quit)[18:29]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:31]<gazzwi86> buZz: how do I change to WPA2?[18:32]<buZz> sadly i dont have this configuration by hand here, sry[18:32]<scummos> gazzwi86: read the manpage, there's loads of examples there[18:33]<scummos> it's the easiest way to find out[18:33]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[18:33]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[18:33]<scummos> I don't know by heart either[18:33]<gazzwi86> man /etc/network/interfaces?[18:35]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) has joined #raspberrypi[18:35]* PiBot sets mode +v mgottschlag[18:36]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:36]<buZz> man wpa_supplicant i figure[18:36]<buZz> wpa_cli and wpa_gui are both tools of wpa_supplicant[18:38]<Matt> the man page isn't so great from what I remember[18:39]<Matt> I think when I was last putzing around with it a couple of years back, there was better documentation online[18:40]* int3nz0r (~int3nz0r@86.86.66.141) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[18:40]* mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) Quit (Ping 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this worked for me: http://omer.me/2012/04/setting-up-wireless-networks-under-debian-on-raspberry-pi/[18:47]* dipstick smacks megaproxy [18:47]<megaproxy> haha[18:47]<megaproxy> :P[18:48]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi[18:48]* PiBot sets mode +v bertrik[18:48]<megaproxy> i was trying to get my boss to allow me to put a 2u case in at work[18:48]<megaproxy> and then colo pi's inside[18:48]<megaproxy> would you want your pi on a 10gbps network?[18:48]<megaproxy> i would.[18:48]<gazzwi86> artag: I got it working now[18:48]<axion> heh you cant even acheive full 100mbps[18:48]<gazzwi86> It was an issue with WPA and WPA2[18:49]<megaproxy> axion, i know :([18:49]<megaproxy> but you can boast its on such a network[18:49]<axion> so i wouldnt[18:49]<megaproxy> haha[18:49]<dipstick> a pi cluster?[18:49]<megaproxy> i will put one of my pi's in the DC[18:50]<TAFB> gazzwi86: I had such issues getting the WPA key working on my Pi.[18:50]<TAFB> Only way to make it work was to copy and paste it from the routers config page in the browser, into wpa_gui, then it worked :)[18:50]<gazzwi86> TAFB: working fine now for me, connecting on boot. Fingers crossed it stays that way![18:50]<gazzwi86> :)[18:51]<megaproxy> how can you power many pi's at once...[18:51]<megaproxy> a few powered hubs?[18:51]<TAFB> gazzwi86: Mine's been super 100% rock solid. Run a torrent on it, set it to 1000 max connections, and if the wifi drops out it might need more power. Do you have the wifi adapter right into the Pi?[18:51]<dipstick> megaproxy, depends on the psu.[18:51]<gazzwi86> megaproxy: usb hub maybe?[18:52]<dipstick> one standard pc psu can easily power a few dozen.[18:52]<TAFB> megaproxy: I saw 10 pi's off of this: http://www.crazysales.com.au/a-power-usb2-0-10-port-hub-with-power-black.html[18:52]<megaproxy> hmmmm[18:52]<gazzwi86> TAFB: yeh, usb dongle in the pi usb port 2[18:53]<megaproxy> may get one and get to work on a case to colocate[18:53]<dipstick> and coupled with many high current 5v regulators, the 12v rail can power 4 times as many as the 5v rail can. :D[18:53]<TAFB> gazzwi86: scary :) did you check tp1-tp2 voltage? http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG[18:53]<megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/eBoUc[18:53]<megaproxy> thats my home servers[18:53]<megaproxy> i got them free through work[18:53]<megaproxy> and bodged together a rack.[18:53]<megaproxy> then realised it wasnt strong enough to stand up haha[18:54]<megaproxy> so the servers... slot in....[18:54]* ShiftPlusOne (~shift@unaffiliated/shiftplusone) has joined #raspberrypi[18:54]* PiBot sets mode +v ShiftPlusOne[18:54]<dipstick> bloody javascript >=[[18:54]<TAFB> mega: looks good. Fit 10 Pi's inside that case, come up with an interface to the drives NAS like, you'd be rockin[18:54]<gazzwi86> TAFB: not i just check the dongle in the peripherals page for the pi. saw it there so just assumed I was safe.[18:55]<megaproxy> TAFB, the 2u one i will play with[18:55]<axion> everything in the pi is over the usb bus[18:55]<axion> network and all...youd be extrememly bottlenecked in a cluster[18:56]<TAFB> gazzwi86: A lot of Pi's suffer from low voltage (not just because of wifi adapters). It's good to check the TP1-TP2 voltage to see if you're close to the edge, power wise. Fire up quake3 with a torrent in the background and your Pi will reboot if she's close to the edge :) There's some tricks you can do to boost it if it's low[18:56]<TAFB> axion: if the cluser is into a gigabit switch, it's got a big backbone, each Pi would be putting out as much as it could, no?[18:56]<burek> does anyone have any cool ideas how to test if usb wifi dongle can work together with usb webcam at joint speed around 5 mbps on rpi?[18:57]<megaproxy> where is that blog post about the pi cluster?[18:57]<megaproxy> making a cluster would be fun..[18:57]<burek> webcam sends around 2-3 mbps of the video stream and i'm just remuxing it (forwarding) to another machine over the network[18:58]<TAFB> burek: I think you'd be CPU limited before you'd be network limited in that situation, no?[18:58]<gazzwi86> TAFB: Hmmmm??? interesting. Something odd just happened, looked like a reboot. Trying to run a webcam and a dongle[18:58]<gazzwi86> what are these tricks?[18:58]<gazzwi86> I still have to hook up GPIO[18:58]<burek> TAFB, i dont use encoding, just remuxing (changing of container)[18:58]<TAFB> gazzwi86: did you plug in the USB while the Pi was running?[18:58]<burek> cpu is always < 20% at all time[18:59]<TAFB> burek: Nice. I have a question for you then :)[18:59]<burek> webcam is encoding with its own hardware[18:59]<gazzwi86> TAFB: I did remove and reconnect[18:59]<axion> TAFB: that wouldnt matter much...youd still split ANY usb throughput in half by saturating a pi's subpar 100mbps just getting them to talk to each other...[18:59]<TAFB> gazzwi86: there is a design flaw in the Pi, that allows a large surge in USB current when hot plugging a device, causing a drop in voltage and the Pi to reboot.[18:59]<TAFB> only solution is solder on bigger capaciter.[18:59]<TAFB> or don't hotplug ;)[19:00]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:00]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[19:00]<gazzwi86> Hmmmm??? ok, I think i'll go for the latter[19:00]<gazzwi86> don't want to fiddle to much[19:00]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:00]<TAFB> lol. Check your TP1-TP2 voltage when you get a chance and report back. If it's super crappy, we'll explore the options.[19:02]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) has joined #raspberrypi[19:02]* PiBot sets mode +v Patteh[19:02]<TAFB> burek: you ever use flow player or bsplayer?[19:03]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) Quit (Quit: Saliendo)[19:03]<burek> jw player[19:03]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[19:03]* PiBot sets mode +v ozymandias_[19:03]* yoavz (yoavz@yoavz.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:03]* [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) has joined #raspberrypi[19:03]* PiBot sets mode +v [SkG][19:04]* cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf[19:04]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: mrmoney2012)[19:04]<TAFB> ahh, I have used jwplayer before :)[19:04]<TAFB> are you in north america?[19:04]* lovejoy (~lovejoy@cable-178-149-86-186.dynamic.sbb.rs) has joined #raspberrypi[19:04]* PiBot sets mode +v lovejoy[19:04]* felipealmeida (~user@querubim.tecgraf.puc-rio.br) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[19:04]* swebb (~swebb@c-76-120-34-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:04]* PiBot sets mode +v swebb[19:05]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:05]* PiBot sets mode +v DarkTherapy[19:05]<burek> those questions are supposed to be related or what :D[19:05]<burek> no, im not, im in europe :)[19:05]<TAFB> yes, they are! lol. I have a stream I want to show you, but it doesn't work good across the pond ;)[19:05]<TAFB> http://www.ourston.com/resources/webcams/halifax.html[19:06]<TAFB> that's with JWplayer[19:06]<burek> ok[19:06]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:06]* PiBot sets mode +v Syliss[19:07]<TAFB> to run that I'm using vlcplayer on a powerful PC to transcode the stream from the stupid h264 of the IP camera, into a flash compatible stream JWplayer can play.[19:07]<burek> ok i see it well[19:07]* mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) has joined #raspberrypi[19:07]* PiBot sets mode +v mythos[19:07]* enr1x (~kiike@81.60.137.111.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:07]* PiBot sets mode +v enr1x[19:07]<TAFB> they want me to do the same thing with a Pi, because the computer is mounted outdoors, it doesn't do so well.[19:07]* swebb (~swebb@c-76-120-34-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has left #raspberrypi[19:07]<TAFB> if not the Pi, then they want me to use this: http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135235611947&tab_idx=1[19:08]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:08]* PiBot sets mode +v lord4163[19:08]* zz_ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox[19:09]<burek> try googling for VIA[19:09]* wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) has joined #raspberrypi[19:09]* PiBot sets mode +v wiiguy[19:09]<burek> it has a better hardware[19:09]<burek> in the same price range[19:09]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:09]<axion> odroidx 1 and 2 arent that great[19:09]<TAFB> ok. I'd like to do it on the Pi though :) you think it could handle a 2mbps 720p stream from IP camera and transcode it to JWplayer (for only one user/stream).[19:10]<burek> something like this http://www.viaembedded.com/en/products/boards/1950/1/EPIA-P910.html[19:10]<burek> no it couldnt[19:10]<burek> it'll just crash[19:10]<TAFB> why would you say it would crash?[19:10]<burek> i tried 640x360[19:10]<burek> it crashed all the time[19:10]<TAFB> not over clocked?[19:10]* PiZZaMaN2K (~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k) has joined #raspberrypi[19:10]* PiBot sets mode +v PiZZaMaN2K[19:10]<burek> overclocked yes[19:11]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:11]<TAFB> lol[19:11]<burek> btw, why re-encoding an already encoded h264?[19:11]<TAFB> my customer would accept 640x360[19:11]<TAFB> burek: the stupid IP cameras output a strange h264, won't stream in jwplayer or anything.[19:11]<burek> if it's ip camera, access it via browser and set the video frame size[19:12]<lord4163> Up and running ^^[19:12]* bin_bash (~bin_bash@unaffiliated/bin-bash/x-0273453) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]* PiBot sets mode +v bin_bash[19:13]<burek> also, no need to re-encode your video and starve the cpu, just re-mux it[19:13]<burek> and configure actual encoding parameters on your camera, via browser[19:13]<lord4163> I get an error when launching mpd[19:13]<lord4163> Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Failed to create socket: Address family not supported by protocol[19:14]<axion> use a unix socket in mpd.conf instead...more secure[19:14]<lord4163> wheris mpd.conf[19:14]<TAFB> burek: the ip camera only outputs 4mbps stream at 480p :( they internet is only 2mbps capable max, so I had to use VNC to re-encode to 1mbps bitrate. I'm going to try a newer/better camera. If it can stream right to jwplayer I will be happy :)[19:15]<axion> lord4163: depends on your distribution[19:15]<lord4163> Debian I found it, /etc/mpd.conf[19:15]* cdan_ (~cdan@mail.savatech.ro) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[19:16]<lord4163> how do i use a unix socket?[19:17]<axion> man mpd.conf[19:18]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss)[19:18]<axion> search for socket[19:18]<burek> TAFB did you check camera's web interface?[19:18]<TAFB> burek: for what, not many options. no bitrate control, no nothing. Even on the local network. jwplayer will not play it's h264 stream[19:19]* pecorade (~pecorade@host143-251-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi[19:19]* PiBot sets mode +v pecorade[19:19]<burek> TAFB, every ip cam has got its web panel for such configurations[19:19]<TAFB> yep, I'm in there now[19:19]<TAFB> I can set main stream resolution, sub stream, jpg capture, lots of stuff :)[19:19]<lord4163> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /etc/mpd.conf | grep socket[19:19]<lord4163> # be disabled and audio files will only be accepted over ipc socket (using[19:20]<lord4163> # MPD to accept files over ipc socket (using file:// protocol) or streaming[19:20]<lord4163> #bind_to_address "/var/run/mpd/socket"[19:20]<lord4163> pi@raspberrypi ~ $[19:20]<axion> lord4163: no no no[19:20]<axion> read the manpage[19:20]<axion> as i said[19:20]* yoavz (yoavz@yoavz.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:20]* PiBot sets mode +v yoavz[19:20]* pecorade (~pecorade@host143-251-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Client Quit)[19:20]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) has joined #raspberrypi[19:20]* PiBot sets mode +v Jeffsi[19:22]* pecorade (~pecorade@host143-251-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #raspberrypi[19:22]* PiBot sets mode +v pecorade[19:24]* jmontleon (~jmontleon@redhat/jmontleon) Quit (Quit: Done)[19:25]<lord4163> hmmm maybe I took the wrong program[19:25]<lord4163> this is a CLI music player right?[19:25]<axion> it is a daemon. it could be cli or gui[19:25]<axion> depending on whatever client you couple it with[19:26]* deffrag_ (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* PiBot sets mode +v deffrag_[19:26]* egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* PiBot sets mode +v egrouse[19:27]* deffrag (~Dedec@unaffiliated/deffrag) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[19:27]* scummos (~sven@p57B1A5B4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:27]* PiBot sets mode +v scummos[19:28]<ParkerR_> TAFB, Ping[19:28]<lord4163> Ah maybe I installed the wrong one[19:30]* Kripton is now known as kripton[19:30]* kripton is now known as Kripton[19:31]* Kripton is now known as kripton[19:32]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[19:32]* PiBot sets mode +v dreamon[19:32]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:32]* scorphus (~scorphus@CAcert/User/scorphus) has joined #raspberrypi[19:32]* PiBot sets mode +v scorphus[19:33]<axion> mpd is a daemon for remote controlling a large database of music[19:33]<axion> you can install a gui to control it locally...a web page to control it on your smart phone, etc[19:33]<bin_bash> lord4163, try installing mocp[19:33]<bin_bash> lord4163, mocp is a CLI music player[19:34]* DarkTherapy (~DarkThera@adsl-213-249-218-249.karoo.kcom.com) Quit ()[19:34]<lord4163> yeah I tried installing moc? that's the same thing?[19:34]<lord4163> oh yeah i c[19:34]<axion> maybe a better question is what are you looking for exactly?[19:34]<bin_bash> mpd is a highly configurable music player daemon (mpd) and can used to broadcast music via shoutcast/icecast, or other broadcasting software, or can be used locally.[19:34]<bin_bash> lord4163, yeah moc.[19:34]<bin_bash> music on console player[19:35]* phantoxeD (~destroy@a95-92-89-24.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[19:35]* PiBot sets mode +v phantoxeD[19:35]<axion> i use ncmpcpp, an mpd client[19:35]* MidnighToker (~Toker@unaffiliated/midnightoker) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:35]<bin_bash> axion, same. I only use mpd to broadcast to my shoutcast server[19:35]* mdim (~user@c-98-202-219-86.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:35]* PiBot sets mode +v mdim[19:35]<mdim> hi[19:36]<axion> i dont transcode... got the bandwidth to stream flac[19:36]<mdim> so, even though I've set config_hdmi_boost=7, I still have regular blankings[19:37]<mdim> any idea how to get around with this issue?[19:37]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:37]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[19:37]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: 'Unix is a computer virus with a user interface.' - The UNIX-HATERS Handbook.)[19:37]* xrosnight (~alex@112.234.15.133) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:37]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[19:39]* Patteh (~BOB@unaffiliated/patteh) Quit ()[19:42]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:42]* PiBot sets mode +v mrmoney2012[19:44]* rinzler (~superdave@unaffiliated/superdave321) has joined #raspberrypi[19:44]* PiBot sets mode +v rinzler[19:46]* atouk (~atouk@ool-457e23d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]* PiBot sets mode +v atouk[19:46]<mdim> also, I have buffering issues, even though I've given 128 MBs to GPU. Does GPU need more for the buffering or the CPU?[19:46]* yofel_ is now known as yofel[19:46]<axion> define buffering issues[19:46]<mdim> in other words, there are glitchs very often[19:46]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazz16.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]* PiBot sets mode +v AeroNotix[19:46]* matejv (~matej@tm.78.153.58.66.dc.cable.static.telemach.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]* PiBot sets mode +v matejv[19:46]* Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]* PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P[19:47]* Tyrrell (~Tyrrell@178.167.139.100.threembb.ie) has joined #raspberrypi[19:47]* PiBot sets mode +v Tyrrell[19:47]<axion> local or network playback? if local, what storage medium?[19:47]* SophieRxx (~sophie@02785411.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:47]* PiBot sets mode +v SophieRxx[19:47]<mdim> it's over network (LAN), and it's an external usb 3.0 drive (but connected to 2.0 usb port on the router)[19:48]<axion> samba nfs etc?[19:48]<mdim> I didn't see these issues before yesterday[19:48]<mdim> nfs/ext4[19:48]<axion> ok very good.[19:48]<axion> wifi or eth?[19:48]<mdim> with -o nolock option[19:48]<mdim> eth (LAN)[19:49]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:49]<mdim> when I try without -o nolock option, I get the following error: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.[19:50]<axion> h264 is variable bitrate and over NFS for me it does glitch during high-action sequences of high bitrate videos[19:50]<mdim> and I'm not sure what does it mean[19:50]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: mrmoney2012)[19:50]<axion> but the same video played locally does not[19:50]<mdim> this hard drive is supposed to be shared between the RPi and a laptop[19:50]<axion> i am also overclocked quite a bit[19:50]<mdim> you mean you overclocked the CPU freq?[19:50]<axion> and gpu[19:51]<axion> and memory[19:51]<mdim> hm[19:51]<peetaur2> how can I control a 0.5A motor with my pi? if I hook it up to a 1k resistor, and then a medium range transistor (BD139) and a 20V PSU, it only ends up with 130 mA on the motor[19:51]* Martyn (~martinb@adsl-69-106-233-82.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:51]* PiBot sets mode +v Martyn[19:51]<mdim> and you have some kind of heat sink?[19:51]<axion> no, not needed[19:51]<axion> i only reach 60C[19:51]<mdim> axion: only?[19:51]<axion> that is pretty low for 1ghz[19:51]<TAFB> mdim: cpu get flakey around 85c ;)[19:51]<artag> you probably want a darlington transistor[19:52]<axion> 85 or lower is within your warranty[19:52]<mdim> axion: 1ghz? nice :)[19:52]<axion> err higher[19:52]<axion> err lower[19:52]<axion> i was right :P[19:52]<TAFB> lower was right[19:52]<TAFB> lol[19:53]<axion> my cpu gets flaky around 70C...so at 65C it automatically underclocks to 500mhz[19:54]<mdim> axion: did you use this table? http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt#Tested_values[19:54]<axion> no i experimented with my own tests[19:55]<Tyrrell> hey guys, I've only been using my rpi for dicking around until now, I was just wondering if it could stay on under a fairly low load for longer than say a week, without downtime?[19:55]<artag> a bd139 has a gain of only 25. so for 0.5A it needs 20mA base current. the pi with 3.3v and 1k will only pass 2.6mA so the transistor won't turn on enough[19:55]<axion> Tyrrell: i am overclocked to 1ghz and been running for 45 days uninterrupted atm[19:55]<Tyrrell> oh nice[19:56]<frikinz> axion: do you set the governor to performance or ondemand?[19:56]<frikinz> I set it to performance, just wondering[19:57]<frikinz> by default its ondemand[19:57]<Tyrrell> yeah that's basically all I was wondering, just if it could remain switched on for an extended period of time without being damaged[19:57]<axion> i do NOT use force_turbo or change the governor[19:57]<frikinz> er well, on raspbian[19:57]<axion> so ondemand[19:57]<Tyrrell> thanks anyway[19:57]<frikinz> I set to min=max=1Ghz :)[19:57]<axion> would be nice to try the conservative governor though[19:57]<axion> it saves considerably more power on my netbook than ondemand[19:58]<lord4163> Lol! I bought a 32GB memory card and I try to get 1 music file to there and it's saying that the device is full!?[19:59]<TAFB> axion, I put the config.txt you sent me on pastebin, can I share it with some peeps?[19:59]<axion> no[20:00]<axion> http://codepad.org/hcCkyBf6[20:00]<axion> i did :P[20:00]* Shaan7 (~quassel@kde/developer/shantanu) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:00]<axion> frikinz Tyrrell ^^[20:00]<frikinz> okay. In several years, I only tried conservative for a few days. reading about it, looks good. I have to try[20:00]<TAFB> your pastebin has goofy hdmi stuff in it[20:00]<TAFB> i cleaned it up, with just the overclock stuff[20:00]<TAFB> i gave full credz to you[20:00]<frikinz> thanks axion[20:00]<axion> goofy?[20:00]<axion> you should set your tv's mode[20:01]<TAFB> but if we're telling peeps how to overclock, we should be messing with their working HDMI config :)[20:01]<TAFB> noobs here remember Ax, noobs[20:01]<axion> no, if people are looking to my config to overclock without understanding what each option does, they are retarded[20:02]<axion> noobs all the more reason to learn before blindy trying values[20:02]<bin_bash> YAY I'M RETARDED[20:03]* Torikun (~root@76-220-9-159.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:03]* PiBot sets mode +v Torikun[20:03]<TAFB> congrats[20:03]<axion> DISCLAIMER: BEFORE BLINDY OVERCLOCKING WITH AXION'S CONFIG.TXT, REMOVE FIRST 2 LINES SO YOUR TV DOES NOT GO KABOOM[20:03]<bin_bash> LOL[20:03]<TAFB> axion: http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87[20:05]<axion> cool[20:05]<axion> hows it working for you 2 days in?[20:05]* nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[20:05]* PiZZaMaN2K is now known as PiZZaMaN2K|away[20:05]<TAFB> other than I can't get quake3 working (found out it didn't work on a stock config.txt so it wasn't the overclocking like I had assumed), it's 100% rock solid :)[20:06]<Torikun> how much memory does the pi have[20:06]<Torikun> meminfo sgiws 189[20:06]<Torikun> ]*shows[20:06]<axion> depends which pi you're referring to[20:06]<axion> 256 or 512[20:06]<Torikun> ah why is it not reporting the memory correctly[20:07]<axion> gpu_mem isnt set?[20:07]<TAFB> some is shared for the video?[20:07]<TAFB> :)[20:07]<Torikun> hmmmm[20:07]<Torikun> it is different on reboots[20:07]<Torikun> a few days ago I seen over 200mb[20:07]<axion> you are using cma then[20:08]<axion> see the config.txt wiki article[20:08]* enr1x (~kiike@81.60.137.111.dyn.user.ono.com) 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quake do you want me to test?[20:14]<TAFB> ax: I used this quake3 walkthrough: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853[20:14]<axion> i'll try openarena, because i dont have the retail pak files[20:14]* interrobangd (~interroba@dslb-088-074-215-208.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:14]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:14]* PiBot sets mode +v interrobangd[20:14]* PiBot sets mode +v emilepetrone[20:14]<TAFB> sudo wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1816557/Q3%20Demo%20Paks.zip[20:14]<TAFB> demo packs :)[20:15]<axion> no need. openarena is totally free using the same engine[20:15]* pecorade (~pecorade@host143-251-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:16]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[20:16]* emilepetrone (~emilepetr@c-24-22-29-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:16]* PiBot sets mode 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Not both.[20:37]<mrmoney2012> grrr??? more root filesystem corruption. another day another install. is there a known issue? not overclocked[20:38]<TAFB> that sucks money :([20:38]<TAFB> here's a song to calm you down: http://ecuflashking.com/music/Jack%20Johnson%20-%20Sleep%20Through%20The%20Static/10%20-%20Go%20On.flac[20:38]<axion> there has been a correlation between rev1 boards and ext4 corruption[20:39]<mrmoney2012> this is one of them 512mb boards[20:39]<TAFB> money: which brand/model of SD card. Did you check the known compatibility list see if reported issues?[20:39]<TAFB> how's your TP1-TP2 voltage while we're there.[20:39]<axion> also i assume you are using a newer card than last time? the card might be toast[20:39]<mrmoney2012> just doing this again, feels like done it 100 times.. sudo dd bs=1m if=2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/rdisk3[20:40]<axion> i went through 5 sd cards before moving rootfs to SSD lol[20:40]<mrmoney2012> tried a few cards...[20:40]<mrmoney2012> latest was a class4 sandisk[20:40]<TAFB> how's your voltage? when my Pi was running around 4.8v (ick) I had corruption (after a random reboot).[20:41]<TAFB> those class4 sandisk cards rip in the Pi :)[20:41]<mrmoney2012> voltage - will check it again on this card when it's in place[20:41]* lord4163 (~fabian@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) has left #raspberrypi[20:41]<TAFB> sounds like a plan. I jumperd my F3 and my voltage when from 4.80 to 5.01 :) no issues after that :)[20:41]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[20:41]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[20:42]<mrmoney2012> jumpered my F3 ?[20:42]<axion> TAFB: that guide says 20 minutes to compile[20:42]<TAFB> on the bottom of the board[20:42]<TAFB> by the microusb connector[20:42]<TAFB> is a green chip called F3 (polyfuse)[20:42]<TAFB> some of them have a lot of internal resistance and cause your Pi to have low voltage.[20:43]<axion> its been about 25 at 300mhz higher[20:43]<TAFB> when you voltage test TP1 and TP2 also test F3 to D17 (sides of the chips closest to the board edge), that'll give you your F3 loss.[20:43]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:43]<TAFB> axion, mine took an hour to compile, at 1ghz[20:43]<mrmoney2012> ok will boot it and do that test in a min - as soon as this card burns[20:43]<axion> time to smoke then[20:43]<mrmoney2012> oh dd finished good.[20:44]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[20:44]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[20:44]<mrmoney2012> am just setting it up voltmeter at ready[20:44]<TAFB> I don't know how DD or linux works when writing SD cards, but on Windows, if I pulled the card out after it was ready, it would always have corruption. I had to "eject" it first. Figured that out after about 10 re-installs :([20:44]<artag> on linux, type 'sync' before you remove it. eject will do that too.[20:45]<axion> lol you always have to sync the buffer for any device[20:45]<TAFB> whops ;)[20:45]<TAFB> mrmoney: you do sync?[20:45]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[20:45]<mrmoney2012> I'm on osx[20:45]<mrmoney2012> i do diskutil unmountdisk /dev/disk3 before popping the card out[20:45]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[20:45]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[20:46]<mrmoney2012> anyway my corruption occurred after a few days usage[20:46]<mrmoney2012> i'd been apt-get updating for days etc??? then it goes wonky.[20:46]* hrebicek_wfh (~hrebicek_@ip4-83-240-6-28.cust.nbox.cz) has joined #raspberrypi[20:46]* PiBot sets mode +v hrebicek_wfh[20:47]<artag> if you've dd'd it, it probably isn't mounted. so umounting won't do anything[20:47]<axion> right[20:47]<mrmoney2012> ok[20:47]<frikinz> but does dd buffers?[20:47]<frikinz> I mean not sync[20:47]<artag> though not sure about diskutil, maybe that does something[20:48]<artag> yes, dd buffers. or rather, the kernel does[20:48]<artag> you can easily tell - the 'sync' will take a few seconds. do it again, it will complete faster[20:48]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) Quit (Quit: ozymandias_)[20:49]* egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) has joined #raspberrypi[20:49]* PiBot sets mode +v egrouse[20:50]<mrmoney2012> right its booted..[20:50]<TAFB> woot[20:50]<TAFB> voltage, how is the VOLTAGE!? :)[20:50]<IT_Sean> Check the woltage man! ze woltage!!!![20:51]<TAFB> sean, do you know FPS russia?[20:51]<mrmoney2012> tp1 and tp2 - steady at 4.9v[20:51]<IT_Sean> nyet.[20:51]<frikinz> dd oflag=dsync[20:51]* lovejoy (~lovejoy@cable-178-149-86-186.dynamic.sbb.rs) Quit (Quit: Leavin')[20:51]<TAFB> 4.9v is good[20:51]<TAFB> what's F3 to D17?[20:51]<mrmoney2012> never done this F3 thing before ! trying now[20:51]* Jeffsi (~Jeffsi@64.211.118.248) Quit (Quit: Jeffsi)[20:51]<TAFB> (on bottom, by micro usb)[20:52]<axion> conv=fdatasync[20:52]<axion> (dd option)[20:52]<mrmoney2012> oops - screwed into mod my pi case??? one min - need screwdriver[20:52]<mrmoney2012> brb[20:52]<TAFB> lol[20:53]<TAFB> did anyone listen to my calming song?[20:53]<frikinz> axion: yes I guess that's "dsync at the end"[20:53]<frikinz> axion: probably faster and same result[20:53]<axion> or dd oflag=dsync[20:53]<pksato> At the moment, I dont have FS currupion.[20:53]<axion> per every bs[20:53]<axion> (very slow)[20:54]<TAFB> ax: you listen to my calming song? would go good with your smoke while you're waiting for quake to compile :)[20:55]<axion> i am listening to my smoke[20:55]<TAFB> lol[20:55]* alex88 (~alex88@unaffiliated/alex88) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[20:56]<mrmoney2012> are they labelled???. F3 and D17 ?[20:56]<TAFB> yep[20:56]<mrmoney2012> on the bottom of board ?[20:56]<TAFB> top left of this pic: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg[20:56]<TAFB> the wires are running to them[20:56]<mrmoney2012> is it a test hole[20:56]<mrmoney2012> ta[20:57]<TAFB> nope, chips[20:57]<TAFB> you touch the edges closest to the board edge[20:57]<mrmoney2012> ok[20:57]<mrmoney2012> aha - ok[20:57]<mrmoney2012> what to set my voltmeter to 20v DCV?[20:57]<TAFB> sean: FPS russia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZgSXfN-BA[20:57]<TAFB> yep[20:58]<mrmoney2012> done. 4.99 rock steady[20:58]* IT_Sean is at work, and thus will not be clicking any links. Thanks though.[20:58]<TAFB> sean: okies. Save it for later. He is very funny.[20:58]<axion> i like the bolo rounds[20:58]<ackthet> HELLO AGAIN IT IS FPSRUSSIA[20:59]* MasterGeek (~MasterGee@cpc15-dudl11-2-0-cust958.16-1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:59]<ackthet> ... AND AS ALWAYS... HAVE NICE DAY[20:59]* PiBot sets mode +v MasterGeek[20:59]<ackthet> et tetera[21:00]<mrmoney2012> TAFB: 4.99 normal ?[21:00]<axion> very[21:00]<TAFB> yep, flawless[21:00]<TAFB> your ish is workin perfect[21:00]<axion> ish?[21:00]<TAFB> sh ...[21:00]<mrmoney2012> ok. thanks[21:01]<axion> ... it[21:02]<TAFB> you got it[21:02]<axion> collaborative exploitation of the rules[21:02]<TAFB> lol[21:02]<TAFB> teamwork[21:03]<axion> o/\o[21:03]<pksato> need some ADC to monitor pw input voltage.[21:05]* nico103 (~nico103@108-207-244-174.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:05]* PiBot sets mode +v nico103[21:05]<nico103> hi[21:05]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi[21:05]* PiBot sets mode +v linuxstb[21:05]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:06]* PiZZaMaN2K|away is now known as PiZZaMaN2K[21:06]* PiZZaMaN2K (~PiZZaMaN2@unaffiliated/pizzaman2k) Quit (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)[21:06]<nico103> I'm looking to buy 3 Raspberry Pis in the U.S., but the only vendor selling them here, alliedelec.com, claims to have zero availability[21:06]<axion> everyone has a backorder[21:06]<nico103> how does one buy these things in the U.S. then?[21:06]<axion> your best bet is element14[21:06]<axion> shortest turnaround[21:06]<ackthet> nico103: element14 also sells in the US <_<[21:06]<nico103> the other vendors claim immediate shipping[21:06]<nico103> they do?[21:06]<ackthet> yes[21:06]<nico103> hmmm[21:06]<ackthet> thats where i bought mine[21:06]<ackthet> i had it 2 days later[21:06]<scummos> farnell usually i a good bet, they're fast and reliable[21:07]* antoks (~antoks@unaffiliated/antoks) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:07]<TAFB> newark canada had 3,000 peices of stock on friday. When I checked yeturday, they had none :([21:07]<axion> though i just got an email from e14 today saying bare with us while we experience high backorder level[21:07]<TAFB> so the shipments are trickling in[21:07]<nico103> huh, dunno how I missed that[21:07]<nico103> thx[21:07]<rikkib> I have a dispatch note from RS... Two more Rpi should arrive in the next day or two. Back order since July.[21:07]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:07]<ackthet> raspberrypi's make good xmas gifts[21:07]<ackthet> 40 bucks for a LINOOX ARM SETUP![21:08]<scummos> "linoox" xD[21:08]<TAFB> I like newark because they include a return shipping label (pre-paid) with every Pi, in case yours was not cooked correctly at the factory.[21:08]<TAFB> I ordered my 2nd pi on Friday and it got here on Monday. Fast :)[21:08]<rikkib> Managed to get two 512 from Element 14 week and a half ago[21:08]<scummos> did you know one can build nice filters by arranging BNC cables in a T like structure ;D http://i.imgur.com/ub6Po.png[21:08]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[21:08]* PiBot sets mode +v ozymandias_[21:08]<TAFB> http://canada.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-modb-512m/model-b-assembled-board-only/dp/43W5302[21:08]<TAFB> availability: 0 :([21:09]<tanuva> my Pi got registered at UPS by farnell today \o/[21:09]* via (~via@vtluug/member/via) has joined #raspberrypi[21:09]* PiBot sets mode +v via[21:09]<ackthet> truth be told i'd just wait till after xmas[21:09]<TAFB> they ship UPS next day air for $8 too :)[21:09]<axion> can always get a rk3066 :)[21:10]<axion> <3 mk808[21:10]<TAFB> I'm still waiting for the axion666 :)[21:11]* tinti (~tinti@maxtrack-F4-0-3-gacc04.bhe.embratel.net.br) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:11]<axion> keep waitig[21:12]* datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) Quit (Quit: kthxbai)[21:13]<axion> fuuuuuu quake[21:13]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) has joined #raspberrypi[21:13]* PiBot sets mode +v Holden[21:13]<TAFB> it's done?![21:13]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[21:13]<mrmoney2012> on a fresh boot of latest raspbian - good idea to do ??? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade[21:13]<axion> if it was i wouldnt be cursing at it[21:14]<TAFB> money: don't forget sudo apt-get dist-upgrade[21:15]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi[21:15]* PiBot sets mode +v sraue[21:16]<axion> think i'ma buy a nitrogen board[21:16]<axion> for meself for xmas[21:16]<mrmoney2012> TAFB: yes - that one - do that first or does it not matter?[21:17]<mrmoney2012> maybe???. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade[21:17]* h0cin (~h0cin@unaffiliated/h0cin) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[21:17]<TAFB> that's gonna take a while :)[21:17]<TAFB> mrmoney, you overclockin? that'll speed it up[21:18]<axion> good its finally done compiling and linking now[21:18]* Holden (~holden@unaffiliated/holdenc) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:18]<mrmoney2012> no but i can be[21:18]<TAFB> using axion's config.txt my Pi just hums along peachy[21:19]* Haaninjo (~anders@85.8.55.65) has joined #raspberrypi[21:19]* PiBot sets mode +v Haaninjo[21:19]<TAFB> http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87[21:20]<mrmoney2012> guess i should remain not over clocked until the corruption stops[21:20]* jprvita is now known as jprvita|afk[21:25]<axion> TAFB: demo cd key?[21:25]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) has joined #raspberrypi[21:25]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[21:26]<TAFB> ax: I never got that far, that it asked for one?[21:26]<axion> ya works fine[21:27]<axion> playing now[21:27]<TAFB> son of a :([21:27]<TAFB> you commented out the crosscompile line in build.sh right?[21:29]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:30]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:31]* PiBot sets mode +v axion[21:31]<axion> TAFB: i take that back...pi overheated and froze[21:31]<axion> but i played for a couple minutes[21:31]<TAFB> yikes[21:31]<TAFB> what temp did it get to?[21:31]<axion> no clue...it froze[21:31]<TAFB> lol[21:31]<frikinz> hum that was not a good idea to config.txt to cmdline.txt and not have a sdcard reader :)[21:31]<TAFB> mine just reboots, before I even get any graphics[21:32]<axion> i'll try again with temp reading[21:32]<TAFB> frik: not a good plan ;)[21:32]<frikinz> TAFB: yeah. too much beers probably :) the card is only readable by the pi. a 1mm plastic piece broke.[21:33]<nico103> ackthet et. al.: thanks; I've placed an order; let's see when it gets here![21:33]<nico103> how hot do these pis run?[21:33]<TAFB> frik: lol, what are you gonna do?![21:33]<TAFB> anything under 85degrees C is fine[21:33]<ackthet> nico103: np :P[21:33]<ackthet> if they have them in stock it should be fast[21:34]<nico103> 85C is too much for my use case :/[21:34]<ackthet> although with the xmas rush...[21:34]<nico103> ackthet: I hope so[21:34]<nico103> oh, I don't need these for xmas gifts; I've no deadlines[21:34]<nico103> i just want to get started[21:34]<frikinz> TAFB: well. I have no idea atm :) I wonder why this card now gets unreadable on any sd card reader just for this little piece of plastic at the edge. I'll put other beers in the fridge to be on the safe side[21:34]<TAFB> frik: I had to recover data from broken SD card that was in my accident camera: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-07-17-BikeAccidentPics/large/DSCN2594.JPG[21:34]<nico103> has anyone gotten FreeBSD w/ ZFS working on these puppies?[21:35]<dipstick> arf![21:35]<TAFB> frik: I use alligator clips and soldered wires to card reader, and just put aligator clips right to card, worked flawless.[21:35]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) Quit (Quit: ozymandias_)[21:35]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:36]<TAFB> nico103: The Pi will turn off at 85c. Normal operation is around 50c or less :)[21:36]<frikinz> TAFB: ok. this sd card mechanichal-wise seems very picky[21:36]* axion (~axion@cpe-67-242-88-224.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:36]* PiBot sets mode +v axion[21:36]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[21:36]* PiBot sets mode +v ozymandias_[21:36]<TAFB> i think it's time you buy a new SD card and an SD reader ;)[21:36]<dipstick> I have an sd card without an plastic enclosure. Bloody enclosure just fell apart one day. :/[21:36]<TAFB> ok, I take that back. I suggest you buy a high quality SD card :)[21:36]<axion> TAFB: 61.1C - thats not right...i get higher than that without quake sometimes and still stable. it must be my v3d[21:37]<frikinz> TAFB: no, both sd reader cannot read this card anymore so its not the sd reader[21:37]<nico103> TAFB: thx; does it get to 85C by running it flat out? or that's just the max operating temp?[21:37]<frikinz> TAFB: yes. I'd have to order on the interwebs. I don't do that often[21:37]<TAFB> it gets to 85c by overclocking and locking the overclock, and playing Quake3[21:37]<ackthet> nico103: mine is cool to the touch overclocked playing back 1080p[21:38]<nico103> ackthet: awesome! that's what I was looking for[21:38]* terraforma (~jeebus@96-35-102-223.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:38]<nico103> I don't intend to play Quake3 :)[21:38]* PiBot sets mode +v terraforma[21:38]<ackthet> iknorite?[21:38]<TAFB> nico: are you going to put it in a case? If so, it can cook in safety :)[21:38]<ackthet> i have a real computer for games[21:38]<frikinz> Well, these are not "sd card readers" but multi function readers. Might be the problem. It detects it as a memorystick :)[21:38]<dipstick> it was a cheap card, pariot I think it was.[21:39]<terraforma> Hello, does anyone here use ImageWriter on Linux to flash their SD cards?[21:39]<ackthet> why not use dd?[21:39]<dipstick> terraforma, bah, real men use dd![21:39]<terraforma> I might still.[21:39]<axion> dd ftw[21:39]<dipstick> imagewriter is for the lazies[21:39]<TAFB> niko: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100-New-Case-For-Raspberry-Pi-Computer-High-Quality-Case-/221165400815?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item337e7c32ef[21:39]<axion> im lazy and i use dd[21:40]<dipstick> ok, for the windows nerds that require point and click. :P[21:40]<terraforma> I really dont care, please just say no if the answer is no.[21:40]<axion> dont ask to ask[21:40]<axion> just ask a alid question[21:40]<dipstick> terraforma, ok. no. :)[21:40]<TAFB> terra: I use win32imager on Windows :)[21:40]<TAFB> terra: have you tried berryboot?[21:41]<terraforma> axion: that IS a valid question, derp[21:41]<axion> no it is asking for us to flood the channel with 406 yes/no's[21:41]<pksato> imagewriter is a Linux program?[21:41]<axion> ask a question related to what you are trying to do[21:41]* Orion_ (~Orion_@71-213-43-202.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:41]* PiBot sets mode +v Orion_[21:41]<dipstick> pksato, thats what I was thinking.[21:43]<terraforma> so nobody has used it?[21:43]* SophieRxx (~sophie@02785411.bb.sky.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:43]<frikinz> terraforma: no[21:43]<dipstick> looks that way[21:43]<axion> now onto your real question[21:43]<frikinz> terraforma: dd is simple, just use that[21:44]<dipstick> I think i should buy a cheap reader for my cheap but broken sd card and solder them together. XD[21:44]<TAFB> rofl[21:44]<terraforma> frikinz: My FOLLOW UP question is now moot, I will be using dd. YAY![21:44]<dipstick> dd if=image.img of=/dev/sdx <- how much simpler can it be?[21:45]<TAFB> terra: Use Windows, it's better[21:45]<terraforma> TAFB: lol[21:45]<TAFB> lol[21:45]<terraforma> thanks for being SO helpful everyone, later[21:45]* terraforma (~jeebus@96-35-102-223.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) has left #raspberrypi[21:45]<pksato> Exists some programa called Imagewriter for opensuse Linux.[21:46]<dipstick> I can copy a whole drive with fewer keystrokes than copying dirs around.[21:46]<dipstick> aww, he left. :x[21:46]<axion> why are windozers so lazy[21:46]<IT_Sean> windows users?[21:46]<axion> stop dozing in linux![21:46]<frikinz> maybe he was the author of imagewriter for linux? :)[21:46]<IT_Sean> it isn't just lazyness, it's stupidity.[21:46]<TAFB> My Pi... MY PI. why can't Ruby and eventmachine play nice :([21:46]<pksato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Studio_ImageWriter[21:47]<dipstick> lawls[21:47]* Orion_ (~Orion_@71-213-43-202.slkc.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[21:47]<dipstick> I use both the gui and cli for my daily use.[21:47]<TAFB> I run x11vnc cause I'm a windows guy[21:48]<frikinz> TAFB: no foul language. thanks[21:48]<TAFB> k.[21:48]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) Quit (Quit: jthunder)[21:49]<dipstick> got windows on my desktop because I can't afford a new drive and I don't want to repartition. :P[21:49]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[21:49]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick[21:49]<TAFB> dip: What do you NEED windows for?[21:49]<dipstick> idea: I have a samsung blueray player that uses embedded linux. what are the odds that it'd read a ext3/4 formatted drive?[21:50]<IT_Sean> depends on how 'open' the mfgr left the OS.[21:50]* soldicon (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) has joined #raspberrypi[21:50]* PiBot sets mode +v soldicon[21:51]<dipstick> TAFB, nothing, it turns out. but somethings just seems easier for me. I'm tired of constant tinkering to make crap work on it and keep it working.[21:51]<dipstick> that and my linux drive died 6 months back.[21:51]<dipstick> it doesn't bother me too much.[21:51]<TAFB> makes sense Dip[21:51]<TAFB> I just don't know if I could live without outlook and adobe primere :)[21:52]<dipstick> theres really nothing I can do on windows that I can't on linux, aside from netflix and audio port reassigning. so far.[21:53]<TAFB> nice[21:53]<TAFB> ever used mint?[21:53]<TAFB> my friend just switched[21:53]<TAFB> I'm almost a believer[21:53]<dipstick> also, don't try to run two versions of firefox on windows. they don't like it. but it just simply works on linux :)[21:54]<TAFB> my firefox sucks[21:54]<dipstick> I'm running the latest mint on my netbook.[21:54]<TAFB> I have to exit it and re-load it every other day[21:54]<dipstick> when I get a suitable drive for linux, I'm gonna put the latest mint on my desktop.[21:54]<TAFB> where ya live dip?[21:55]<dipstick> firefox has been surprisingly stable for me better than chrome and a lot less mem usage.[21:55]<dipstick> USA[21:55]<TAFB> I play a flash game called castlot[21:55]<TAFB> i think it has a flash memory leak[21:55]<TAFB> after a day, my firefox is using 1.2gb of ram[21:56]<frikinz> buffering?[21:56]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)[21:56]<dipstick> yeah, flash is bad, I find it's using 800mb after 2 weeks of no restarting. :P[21:56]<axion> TAFB: i'll modify my config a little later to support 3d for more than a few minutes[21:56]* libto (~libto@essn-4db62a75.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:56]* PiBot sets mode +v libto[21:57]<dipstick> my firefox has 80+ tabs and uses 1.8g, chrome has 5 tabs and uses 1.2g >.>[21:57]<axion> TAFB: but if your py reboots instantly, it leads me to believe its a bigger issue[21:57]<TAFB> ax: that'd be sweet.[21:57]<axion> pi rather[21:57]* xzr (xzar@troopers.fi) has joined #raspberrypi[21:57]* PiBot sets mode +v xzr[21:57]<TAFB> yeah, it says something text like Q key found, then boof, reboot.[21:57]<axion> TAFB: you should use arch linux :)[21:57]<TAFB> I see no graphics at all[21:57]<axion> and see if it fixes it[21:57]<axion> you got another pi anyway :)[21:58]<frikinz> so back in the game, changed back my files. good that my n800 could read the sd[21:58]<TAFB> yeah, I don't have a good power supply for my 2nd pie, I tried to power it from my PS3 but it doesn't quite do it[21:58]<axion> what about usb port on tv?[21:59]<xzr> hey lads, I'm sure there's been a discussion about this before but unfortunately I was unable to locate any logs or anything with the mighty power of google. Is it possible to get rpi to play divx 3 low encoded stuff?[21:59]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[21:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[21:59]<dipstick> welp, I ttyl. time for work.[21:59]<TAFB> ax: didn't look on TV for usb port, good thinkin tho[21:59]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:59]<axion> TAFB: thats what i did before i got my powered hub and seemed to work great[22:00]<TAFB> i'll give er a go. When plugged into the playstation I get no usb or ethernet, TP1-TP2 is 4.56v :([22:00]* libto_ (~libto@essn-4d09ed56.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:00]<axion> eww[22:00]<axion> you could make a y adapter and plug into 2 ports[22:00]<TAFB> tru[22:00]<axion> i heard that helps...no exp. though[22:02]* Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky[22:02]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) Quit (Excess Flood)[22:03]<TAFB> ahhh, need to get a sd card for it too, only have 1gb. It boots with my super awesome boot diag image :) maybe I'll hijack the card out of my gopro :)[22:03]<axion> use it for boot only and nfs mount rootfs :)[22:04]<TAFB> I'm linux noob[22:04]<TAFB> but I do have 64gb USB stick that's fast[22:04]<axion> you need sd for pi[22:04]* halfhalo (halfhalo@nasadmin/webteam/halfhalo) has joined #raspberrypi[22:04]* PiBot sets mode +v halfhalo[22:04]<TAFB> I tried to use berryboot to booth from SD and use USB for OS but I couldn't get berryboot to bot[22:04]<axion> just edit cmdline.txt and point root to the proper device[22:05]<axion> gotta go[22:05]<TAFB> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait[22:05]<TAFB> ok, be safe ax[22:06]<axion> root=/dev/sda1 or whatever[22:06]<axion> mmcblk0 is the sd[22:06]<axion> bye[22:08]* aphadke (~Adium@2620:101:8003:200:dca7:ef0a:241a:4fe9) has joined #raspberrypi[22:08]* PiBot sets mode +v aphadke[22:08]* aphadke (~Adium@2620:101:8003:200:dca7:ef0a:241a:4fe9) has left #raspberrypi[22:10]* interrobangd (~interroba@dslb-088-074-215-208.pools.arcor-ip.net) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[22:10]* Yotson (~yot@2001:980:6ac8:1:c427:3c0c:be5f:4d78) Quit (Quit: ahum.)[22:11]* Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk[22:16]* pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) has joined #raspberrypi[22:16]* PiBot sets mode +v pksato[22:16]* Sakyl (~Sakyl@95-91-160-158-dynip.superkabel.de) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:19]* zyoung (~zyoung@wsip-68-106-159-26.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:19]* PiBot sets mode +v zyoung[22:20]<frikinz> looks like the config.txt you pasted makes the pi really fast[22:20]<TAFB> yep[22:20]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) has joined #raspberrypi[22:20]* PiBot sets mode +v jthunder[22:20]<TAFB> i can't believe the difference in bootup speed and performance[22:21]<TAFB> but it isn't stable for quake3 and possibly 1080p video streaming, the gpu draws too much power[22:21]* Hexxeh (uid1532@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-utpkdngzhacgkhyd) has joined #raspberrypi[22:21]* PiBot sets mode +v Hexxeh[22:21]<TAFB> but for a web/email server, it should rip[22:21]<frikinz> I'm having / on usb though. Don't want to loose my last sd :)[22:21]<frikinz> TAFB: ah so your reboot is due to too much power?[22:21]<frikinz> I'm installing munin-node[22:22]<frikinz> TAFB: iirc you had reboot while playing quake3 or something[22:22]<TAFB> frik: axion's Pi froze while playing quake3 after a few mins.[22:22]<TAFB> we don't know why my Pi reboots when playing quake3, I tried with totally stock config.txt, still rebooted.[22:22]<frikinz> oh. GPU probably[22:22]<frikinz> like on my android, most of the problems i have is either gpu or wireless.[22:23]<frikinz> TAFB: and you looked at logs? maybe nothing is in there[22:23]<TAFB> i didn't know where to find logs :([22:24]<frikinz> in /var/log . maybe kernel.log[22:24]<TAFB> checking...[22:24]<TAFB> lots of stuff in /var/log[22:25]<TAFB> kern.log?[22:26]<frikinz> yes[22:26]<frikinz> if you can reproduce the problem, it would be easier to erase the file, reproduce[22:28]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) has joined #raspberrypi[22:28]* PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip[22:28]<CelticTurnip> morning all[22:28]<TAFB> good evening ;)[22:28]<CelticTurnip> yay round world :)[22:29]<frikinz> TAFB: if you read in detail this file, it will tell you a lot about the pi actually. linux gives a lot of details when booting[22:29]<TAFB> i see that :)[22:29]<CelticTurnip> I wish it was the evening, sitting at work recompiling operating systems remotely is much nicer crashed in front of the tv :)[22:29]<MasterGeek> anyone using sdlbasic on the pi ?[22:29]* mentar (~quassel@hack.rs) has joined #raspberrypi[22:29]* PiBot sets mode +v mentar[22:29]<TAFB> celtic: I compiled my first program yestuday! quake3 :) i was happy, but the game did not play :([22:30]<CelticTurnip> wont be long until you are using ssh to recompile whole operating systems :)[22:30]<TAFB> frik: I have a second Pi, I'll go buy a SD card for it, etc. and re-compile quake on it and see if it plays. I'll leave it totally stock wheezy to start :)[22:31]<CelticTurnip> I'm watching the OpenBSD kernel compile in another tab right now... this machine is so slow though, it's going to take like 12 hours total to get the new OS compiled :)[22:32]<frikinz> TAFB: other people managed to run quake? I have a small tv and no keyboard eh can't try[22:33]* Couto (~15minutes@pdpc/supporter/active/couto) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:33]<TAFB> tons of people have been running quake :([22:33]<CelticTurnip> it's not available as a binary?[22:33]<TAFB> someone even sent me a pre-compiled quake on the same model Pi :([22:33]<TAFB> celtic: not that'll run on the Pi, no[22:33]<frikinz> CelticTurnip: so your paid for looking at openbsd compiling? sound thrilling :)[22:33]<CelticTurnip> that's the life of an admin ;)[22:34]* mrmoney2012 (~mrmoney20@b0fc0d5c.bb.sky.com) Quit (Quit: .)[22:34]<frikinz> yes, sometimes big rush and most of the time quiet if you know your systems[22:36]<CelticTurnip> indeed, and a bunch of scripts to make it look like I'm working[22:37]<CelticTurnip> ie. the script running now to pull down and compile -stable :)[22:37]* Kanerix (~Kanerix@reverse.control4.com) has joined #raspberrypi[22:37]* PiBot sets mode +v Kanerix[22:39]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) has joined #raspberrypi[22:39]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[22:40]* gmjhowe (~gmjhowe@dab-bhx2-h-6-1.dab.02.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:40]* PiBot sets mode +v gmjhowe[22:41]<TAFB> woot! found sd card for 2nd pi, 32gb kingston 100x. Slow, but should work fine[22:41]<TAFB> writing image now[22:44]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[22:44]* PiBot sets mode +v Cykey[22:45]* Davespice (~quassel@cpc13-haye17-2-0-cust146.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:46]* Kane (~Kane@5.42.197.77.rev.sfr.net) Quit (Quit: Quitte)[22:46]* comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.116.150) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:48]<tonsofpcs> can the MPEG2 decoder handle High profile with everything at maximum tilt and both max bandwidth and minimum bandwidth?[22:48]<tonsofpcs> (Max is 80 or 90, I'm not sure what min is, I'd have to check a doc...)[22:48]<tonsofpcs> (Mbps, that is)[22:50]* kripton is now known as Kripton[22:51]<gordonDrogon> evening chaps/chapeses/etc.[22:51]<IT_Sean> evening[22:52]* comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.116.150) has joined #raspberrypi[22:52]* PiBot sets mode +v comradekingu[22:54]* Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[22:54]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:54]<ShiftPlusOne> 'morning, Mr Sean.[22:54]<ShiftPlusOne> Morning Mr gordon[22:54]<TAFB> hey shift[22:54]<IT_Sean> Evening, you mean? :p[22:54]<TAFB> evening for me too[22:54]<ShiftPlusOne> Hey Mr TAFB... I am not going through the whole list >=/[22:54]<IT_Sean> Aye. 's defo evening.[22:54]* dakerfp (dakerfp@nat/indt/x-baaietamnzoixbfs) has joined #raspberrypi[22:54]* PiBot sets mode +v dakerfp[22:55]<TAFB> lol\[22:55]<IT_Sean> And on that, i am off. Going to start packing it in to go home.[22:55]* IT_Sean (~sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has left #raspberrypi[22:55]<ShiftPlusOne> take care[22:56]* peetaur2 (~peter@hmbg-5f761a7a.pool.mediaWays.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:56]<ShiftPlusOne> anyone here done LFS for pi, cross-compiling, not using busybox?[22:57]* mrcan (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) has joined #raspberrypi[22:57]* PiBot sets mode +v mrcan[22:58]* ozymandias_ (~josephby@cn-nat2-uw-129-97-124-14.net.uwaterloo.ca) Quit (Quit: ozymandias_)[22:58]* aphadke (~Adium@c-71-198-5-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:58]* PiBot sets mode +v aphadke[22:58]* aphadke (~Adium@c-71-198-5-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has left #raspberrypi[23:02]<CelticTurnip> okay I see 2 votes here for it's evening, me rings the directors and asks to go home due to clock issues at work.... looks like morning, but is defo evening :)[23:03]<CelticTurnip> didn't work :([23:04]<TAFB> ok, I have to go somewhere and buy a non-crappy microUSB cables. these two I have are absolute garbage :( brb[23:04]<frikinz> Only did LFS cross compiling WITH busybox myself[23:05]* Pickley (~Pickley@203.160.127.176) has joined #raspberrypi[23:05]* PiBot sets mode +v Pickley[23:05]* craigb (~craigb@178.73.210.224) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[23:05]* craigb (~craigb@178.73.210.224) has joined #raspberrypi[23:05]* PiBot sets mode +v craigb[23:06]<TAFB> Wire Guage: 30 AWG??? wtf :([23:06]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: recall roughly how big the resulting filesystem was?[23:06]* Weaselweb (~quassel@77-64-181-50.dynamic.primacom.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:07]* deep13 (~deep13@c-71-56-122-103.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:07]* PiBot sets mode +v deep13[23:09]<frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: mmhh can't remember tried that the first days I had the pi. Well, the size of busybox. I stopped when I was able to log.[23:09]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: fair enough, thanks[23:10]<frikinz> A few Megabytes?[23:10]<frikinz> for busybox[23:10]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: rebooting in to new OpenBSD kernel)[23:12]<frikinz> can't remember about /lib though[23:13]* azeam (~azeam@unaffiliated/azeam) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:13]* CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) has joined #raspberrypi[23:13]* PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip[23:17]<frikinz> I might have to try the linaro qemu to compare to my official qemu I'm using. several segfaults which I suspect are from qemu[23:18]<frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: did you try the upstream qemu in comparison to the linaro qemu?[23:18]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: didn't see any difference really.[23:19]<frikinz> I started with linaro. then I redid everything to make it easier, took qemu from my repo (debian). No difference. but now getting some weird stuff while recompiling for example kernel.[23:19]<frikinz> ok[23:19]<ShiftPlusOne> Oh[23:19]* azeam_afk (~azeam@unaffiliated/azeam) has joined #raspberrypi[23:19]* azeam_afk is now known as azeam[23:19]* PiBot sets mode +v azeam[23:19]<ShiftPlusOne> no, don't use the repo version[23:19]<ShiftPlusOne> build it yourself, either linaro or the normal git version[23:19]<frikinz> Yes, that's strange I have to rerun make like 10 times, it goes a few steps further and then further etc.. mem corruption or I don't know[23:19]* Adnauseam (lucid@flexnet.org) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:19]<ShiftPlusOne> are you using -jX ?[23:20]* Tachyon` (~quassel@cpc1-york2-0-0-cust192.7-1.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:20]<frikinz> no I don't think so. But I have at some point (sb2 -eR.. slow) not recommended?[23:21]<ShiftPlusOne> oh, that's with a scratchbox build... nvrm, not too sure.[23:21]<ShiftPlusOne> I haven't had much trouble with sb2[23:21]<frikinz> I'm tempted to leave scratchbox[23:21]<frikinz> If I have to constantly do -eR then I don't see the point[23:21]<frikinz> I could even chroot into qemu[23:21]<frikinz> myself[23:22]<ShiftPlusOne> I only used -eR for installs. Didn't have any trouble compiling without it.[23:22]<frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: kernel also?[23:22]<frikinz> should work actually. must be my install[23:23]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: no point using sb2 for the kernel.[23:23]<ShiftPlusOne> But yes, I have compiled the kernel with sb2 without problems.[23:23]<ShiftPlusOne> However, the kernel has great support for cross compiling, you just need to specify the compiler and the arch and it takes care of everything.[23:24]<frikinz> Ok. didn't know that.[23:24]<frikinz> Also as soon as I started using sb2, I thought let's use it for every compilation.[23:25]* AeroNotix (~xeno@aazz16.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)[23:25]<frikinz> I'm also using sb2 from the repos :) but this is the same normally[23:25]* gmjhowe (~gmjhowe@dab-bhx2-h-6-1.dab.02.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:26]<frikinz> sb2 has bugs though. I think nobody cares anymore about it[23:26]<ShiftPlusOne> Wouldn't do that either[23:26]<frikinz> I don't like stuff not from packages, only a rule for me I applied also for these[23:26]<ShiftPlusOne> debian repos aren't exactly up to date when it comes to these things[23:26]<frikinz> apt-get handling is an amazing hack[23:27]<frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: wrong, its the same as the git for sb2. I guess qemu too. Just linaro is doign a branch on qemu upstream. It's also in ubuntu not in debian.[23:28]<frikinz> anyway, I need more testing[23:28]<ShiftPlusOne> not qemu, last time I checked qemu was very dated[23:28]<ShiftPlusOne> in pretty much all distros[23:28]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: me neither, so I install things into ~/usr and add ~/usr/bin to path, to keep it from being messy. Then I can just delete it without worrying about it.[23:29]* Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:29]<rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz:8081/ I am making another case for my RPi today...[23:30]<frikinz> I only have the crossgcc from linaro in ~/pi/cross. Yeah I also took linaro already built gcc :) qemu and sb2 are packages.[23:30]<rikkib> While I have a template to work to.[23:31]<ShiftPlusOne> actually crossgcc I would expect to be up to date in repo[23:31]* matt_m (~matt_m@2001:470:1f07:14e6:e966:7143:43fe:e462) has joined #raspberrypi[23:31]* PiBot sets mode +v matt_m[23:31]<ShiftPlusOne> rikkib: what's what out of?[23:31]<ShiftPlusOne> *that[23:31]<rikkib> U Can ali[23:31]<rikkib> chan[23:32]<rikkib> 92 mm wide[23:32]<rikkib> hieght hang on[23:32]<frikinz> :)[23:32]<frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: which repo has cross gcc ?[23:32]<rikkib> 26mm[23:33]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[23:33]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: idn which but it should be there, just search for gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf[23:33]<rikkib> So I cut one 92mm and the other 89mm[23:33]<rikkib> Then cut out holes[23:33]<ShiftPlusOne> rikkib: nice[23:34]<frikinz> Yeah I took this one git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools.git[23:34]<rikkib> I will be this design minus a few holes not needed for headless[23:35]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: probably a good idea, if you're going to work with raspbian.[23:36]* Syliss (~Home@adsl-108-82-200-247.dsl.chi2ca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:36]* PiBot sets mode +v Syliss[23:36]<frikinz> well, I get different arch tag than they do. but my binaries work also :) not sure with what raspbian was/is built[23:37]<ShiftPlusOne> frikinz: really? Seems a bit silly to label it a raspbian toolchain if it wasn't what raspbian was built with. Ah well, whatever works... though I expect pretty much any arm gnueabi toolchain to work.[23:38]* jthunder (~jthunder@70.28.245.99) Quit (Quit: jthunder)[23:39]* sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #raspberrypi[23:39]* PiBot sets mode +v sraue[23:39]* Milos|Netbook (~Milos@pdpc/supporter/student/milos) has joined #raspberrypi[23:39]* PiBot sets mode +v Milos|Netbook[23:39]* markbook (~markllama@38.96.16.69) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[23:40]* Toothpick (~Toothpick@bzq-109-67-203-42.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:40]* PiBot sets mode +v Toothpick[23:41]<TAFB> woot! my tv can power my Pi :) yay. ok. compile quake3 time[23:41]<CelticTurnip> :)[23:41]<rikkib> Done that...[23:41]<bin_bash> your tv can power ur pi?[23:41]<rikkib> Sony HD TV[23:41]<TAFB> the usb port on my TV says "service only" but it works, puts out lots of power, 5.12v! woot.[23:41]<TAFB> 50" LG plasma[23:42]<TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/RaspberryPi_can_you_spot_it.jpg[23:43]<CelticTurnip> I spots it :P[23:43]<ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, first though was "the pi is right there..."[23:43]<akulbe> So what kinds of distros are you guys running on your Pi?[23:43]<ShiftPlusOne> Second thought "what the hell is he watching?"[23:43]<CelticTurnip> lol[23:43]<TAFB> rofl[23:44]<frikinz> resident evil also[23:44]<ShiftPlusOne> akulbe: normally I am running arch. RIght now raspbian for some testing.[23:44]<TAFB> ok, brb, gotta head over to the TV and get quake compiling :)[23:45]<frikinz> akulbe: raspbian and debian unstable[23:45]<akulbe> ShiftPlusOne: isn't Arch pretty much like Gentoo?[23:45]<scummos> no[23:45]<scummos> not at all[23:45]<akulbe> Oh, I thought it was.[23:45]<ShiftPlusOne> akulbe: a bit of an oversimplification, but as a rough description, yeah, sort of. Just without all of the compiling.[23:45]<scummos> wait there's more to gentoo than the compiling[23:46]<scummos> I didn't notice when I was using it[23:46]<akulbe> :)[23:46]<scummos> but here's a tip: don't run gentoo on the pi[23:46]<akulbe> haha[23:46]<ShiftPlusOne> meh, some people do[23:46]<akulbe> fry the board from all the compiling?[23:46]<akulbe> and it'll take 5 years to build? :)[23:46]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: whatever XBian uses (so Raspbian I guess) and FreeBSD (currently testing and waiting for it to get cooked properly)[23:47]* bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:47]<frikinz> Xbian will be my next probably[23:48]* terraforma (~jeebus@96-35-102-223.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:48]* PiBot sets mode +v terraforma[23:48]* int3nz0r (~int3nz0r@86.86.66.141) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[23:48]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[23:49]<akulbe> You using XBian as an abbreviation for Raspbian? or is it something completely different?[23:49]<CelticTurnip> XBian is a XBMC distro[23:49]<terraforma> If a keyboard/mouse stops responding consistently after say, 60 seconds, its likely because of insufficient power, no?[23:49]<ShiftPlusOne> afaik it's based on raspbian[23:50]<scummos> terraforma: sounds weird but I[23:50]<scummos> but i'd say it's about the only possible reason, so yes[23:50]<ShiftPlusOne> but I don't know very... far. Have only used openelec for xbmc so far.[23:51]<akulbe> You guys using just an SD card for storage, or external too?[23:51]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:51]<rikkib> battery drill time[23:51]<ShiftPlusOne> akulbe: I just use the sdcard, but I don't do anything serious.[23:51]* cyclick (~user@unaffiliated/cyclick) has joined #raspberrypi[23:51]* PiBot sets mode +v cyclick[23:51]<terraforma> its probably due to using a power strip, at least thats my guess. Is that known to cause problems?[23:51]<scummos> power strip?[23:51]<terraforma> yes[23:52]<akulbe> I have my Pi sitting bare, on the shelf in my "data center" (my closet where the cable modem, router, switch, and Ethernet jacks are)[23:52]<scummos> what's that? ;)[23:52]<akulbe> I forgot to get accessories, so I didn't even have power for the Pi, or buy a case or anything like that[23:52]<terraforma> http://www.gethealthyharlem.org/sites/default/files/images/power_strip.jpg[23:52]<scummos> how do you power a pi with 220V[23:52]<frikinz> akulbe: sd card second partition for debian unstable and a partition on a usb stick for raspbian[23:52]<terraforma> power strip ^^[23:53]<akulbe> I'm using the charger for my Bluetooth earpiece to power the Pi. And it's plugged in to the switch.[23:53]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: I hear that, I got my 1st Pi forgot everything... ordered a case and a power adapter... the power adapter didn't include the usb cable... :)[23:53]<ShiftPlusOne> that power strip looks surprised[23:53]<terraforma> lol[23:53]<scummos> the american ones always do[23:53]<scummos> weird people[23:53]* Caleb (~archdemon@archlinux/op/caleb) has joined #raspberrypi[23:53]* PiBot sets mode +v Caleb[23:54]<terraforma> http://www.110220volts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/surge-protector.jpg[23:54]<terraforma> hows that?? lol[23:54]<akulbe> scummos: how are we weird?[23:54]<scummos> your power strips are weird[23:54]<rikkib> file time[23:54]<scummos> your units are uber-weird[23:54]* markbook (~markllama@0127ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[23:54]* PiBot sets mode +v markbook[23:55]<terraforma> so, are power strips known to cause issues?[23:55]<scummos> terraforma: I'd say it's sort of impossible. what's the power supply for the pi[23:55]<ShiftPlusOne> terraforma: not really, no.[23:55]<akulbe> Do you guys use your Pi for anything serious/production/business? (pick one) :D[23:55]<akulbe> or just to tinker with?[23:55]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: hell no :P[23:55]<scummos> I use it for science-like stuff[23:55]<scummos> but it's not really that serious... yet ;D[23:55]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: if I'm doing important stuff it has the words HP and Proliant on it :P[23:55]<akulbe> CelticTurnip: it was so damn cheap, I thought "why the hell not?"[23:55]<scummos> mostly prototyping stuff[23:56]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: same :)[23:56]<terraforma> the psu is allegedly rated at 5v 1.7A[23:56]<scummos> terraforma: that sounds ok[23:56]<scummos> did you check with a multimeter or so[23:56]<terraforma> nay, dont have one handy[23:56]<terraforma> dont have one period, actually[23:56]<scummos> ;)[23:56]<akulbe> CelticTurnip: I'm betting that these would be very useful for serious stuff, in the right circumstances... I just don't know what yet.[23:57]<ShiftPlusOne> terraforma: the usual culprit is the current limiting polyfuse on the input.[23:57]* SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:57]<frikinz> My company's going to use it for a customer. the rasp will be connected over uart to a microcontroler to command a step motor. the pi will be reachable via a webinterface over wifi. I hope I'll be gone by the time. j/k[23:57]<Syliss> hmmm[23:57]<akulbe> CelticTurnip: one thing I wanted to do was set up live feed with a webcam, so we can see our baby girl when she wakes up from sleep... because she's "talking"... and it's cute, but once we open the door, she stops.[23:57]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: I can't see a need they got fit for me, but I work with servers that require huge amounts of processing power/storage[23:58]* Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[23:58]* PiBot sets mode +v Alfihar[23:58]<akulbe> CelticTurnip: I just don't know if that's possible with the stuff I've got on hand.[23:58]<CelticTurnip> akulbe: there's an official camera coming out soon[23:58]<ShiftPlusOne> ... "soon"[23:58]<CelticTurnip> but if your webcam is supported by your kernel shouldn't be an issue[23:58]<rikkib> yeah right[23:59]<CelticTurnip> ShiftPlusOne: I have no idea what soon is in Pi terms, I just know it was on raspberrypi.org :P[23:59]<Grievar> frikinz: you sure you want to use uart and not spi?[23:59]<CelticTurnip> given the 6 months wait for my first Pi soon could be 2016[23:59]* Toothpick (~Toothpick@bzq-109-67-203-42.red.bezeqint.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:59]<Grievar> frikinz: you can get higher data rates with SPI I think[23:59]<ShiftPlusOne> Yeah[23:59]<rikkib> Are they going to fix what is wrong with the kernel uvc vid driver?[23:59]* Opinie (~jay@pc-184-130.cable.aina.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:59]* PiBot sets mode +v Opinie[23:59]<akulbe> CelticTurnip: It's one of the what do you call it... UVC? cameras.