For the most part, creationists fall into two camps. Slightly daffy Old Earth Creationists (Dembski, Behe) and batshit crazy Young Earth Creationists (Salvador, AFDave). An exception to the rule is Paul Nelson, a YEC who can actually string two coherent sentences together (one of them may be a lie, but that's beside the point). I don't care how Salvador and AFDave justify their beliefs, they're idiots. But Paul Nelson is not as dumb as they are. I'd like to know how he justifies being a YEC despite all the evidence. I haven't had much luck finding where he defends this. Can anyone point me to where he explains how he can be a YEC?

4. The Rapture occurs. Ken Miller is taken up. Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5. In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6. Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy. The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7. Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found. Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

--------------Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"... Â The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

4. The Rapture occurs. Ken Miller is taken up. Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5. In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6. Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy. The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7. Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found. Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

roflmao that's great. and not, i suspect, far from the truth.

--------------You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

4. The Rapture occurs. Ken Miller is taken up. Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5. In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6. Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy. The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7. Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found. Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

8. When Hell freezes over.

9. Immediately after Dembski wins a Nobel Prize, and Denyse a Pullitzer.

--------------Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

Paul can’t be bothered with providing a detailed explanation for ontogenetic depth. He’s too busy fighting the good fight against presenting the reptile to mammal transition illustrations without it being mentioned they are different sizes. He probably thinks house cats & lions can’t be related because their size difference is so great.

Happy coming out of obscurity day Paul. You’ll be as obscure tomorrow as you were yesterday.

4. The Rapture occurs. Ken Miller is taken up. Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5. In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6. Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy. The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7. Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found. Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

jon, I like the cut of your jib but you are just here to whine. Can you at least take a time out at being mad at other people because they don't want to hear your ideas any more?

Try to be decent for a day or 2 and see haw it is. Y'now, baby steps, right?

That is wonderful. I guess anyone who denies your failed hypothesis will be accused of being Professor Davison. The problem is staring you right in your eyes. The inability to accept the evidence. Hate it as much as you like but creative evolution is a phenomenon of the distant past and, like ontogeny, was always emergent and autoregulated with little reference to the environment.

--------------"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common: they don't alter their views to fit the facts; they alter the facts to fit their views."— Tom Baker

I used the "split topic" script and got a new topic established for the discussion that is off-topic here. I'll be deleting the posts from this thread that are now duplicated or which continue with the off-topic discussion here.