I think it hinges on the direction MU wants to go heading into the season. If they are satisfied with Stone as the backup, then it makes sense to go after a young player as the 3rd string PG. In that scenario, I wouldn't be suprised if Kabongo was at least up for consideration.

I think it hinges on the direction MU wants to go heading into the season. If they are satisfied with Stone as the backup, then it makes sense to go after a young player as the 3rd string PG. In that scenario, I wouldn't be suprised if Kabongo was at least up for consideration.

Lowry may not be healthy for 82 games (he's never really been labeled an ironman). Stone is a relatively unknown backup that is young and has lots to prove. I personally would feel more comfortable with a 3rd string PG that has actually played some ball in the NBA just in case Lowry goes down and Stone isn't adequate enough to log many minutes as relief.

Lowry may not be healthy for 82 games (he's never really been labeled an ironman). Stone is a relatively unknown backup that is young and has lots to prove. I personally would feel more comfortable with a 3rd string PG that has actually played some ball in the NBA just in case Lowry goes down and Stone isn't adequate enough to log many minutes as relief.

Lowry gets injured through doing too much hes never really been on a great team. He actually has some players he can lean on for once.

Minny is trying to get rid of Ridnour and Milwaukee has taken initiative and looks to be in position to get him. He would be a perfect backup PG. MU needs to step in and offer a better deal to snag him! Pleassseeeeee

Minny is trying to get rid of Ridnour and Milwaukee has taken initiative and looks to be in position to get him. He would be a perfect backup PG. MU needs to step in and offer a better deal to snag him! Pleassseeeeee

But what can the Raptors offer?

Kleiza?

Camby?

Fields?

You can't enter a negotiation for a valuable piece with pieces of poop and expect to get the valuable piece. Also, this is looking more like a salary dump. So the Raptors without an exception or cap space can't make it happen regardless unless a third team comes in. But with that third team, do they want Kleiza? Camby?

Lets also not overrate Ridnour. He's fairly consistent and a good shooter. He makes Calderon look like Gary Payton on D though, and he's small. He's also solid as a PG, but nothing special as one in terms of creating and distributing.

Just saying, it's far from the end of the world to miss out on him. He's not that big a difference maker.

Lowry may not be healthy for 82 games (he's never really been labeled an ironman). Stone is a relatively unknown backup that is young and has lots to prove. I personally would feel more comfortable with a 3rd string PG that has actually played some ball in the NBA just in case Lowry goes down and Stone isn't adequate enough to log many minutes as relief.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a veteran who's nearing the end of his career, who can spend most nights on the bench, but could play steady minutes for limited stretches in the case of an injury to Lowry. Ideally someone who takes zero assets to get, and can be signed for near the vet minimum. Tinsley, Dooling, someone of that ilk, maybe?

As for all of y'all that hates him and his signing, I personally really, really like the fact that he's coming to Toronto. I think it's a great move. Our frontcourt is very strong, as our wings. Now let's see the situation with Camby, maybe if Billups comes both will want to play there. That would be a hell of a roster.

9 million a year back and a helping hand to the lakers, sign me up. As a horrible franchise, which mr simmons is kind enough to remind us, we owe it to the league to make the lakers as competitive as possible as soon as possible.

Article is and must be a joke. We tried to get Nash, we offered him more money then anyone and he turned us down, but now that the lakers want and need money because thier great "but we're the lakers" plan didnt work out, we are supposed to remember how awesome and great he would be for the franchise.

The 5th one of those great memories is we sent WAYNE GRETZKY to get the deal done and nash said no. If as a canadian you can say no to anything that man asks of you the the raptors dont want you anymore either.

I'm taking Simmons column with a coal shovel full of salt, but on the face of it, not much downside to his suggestions. Nash only has two years on his contract so it expires at the right time. Nash would be an excellent backup PG, let's face it, despite his poor defence. A steady veteran with excellent work habits. A two time MVP who would be a great example to the young guys. "I'm old enough to be your father and I'm still in the league. Don't tell me you're tired."

As for all of y'all that hates him and his signing, I personally really, really like the fact that he's coming to Toronto. I think it's a great move. Our frontcourt is very strong, as our wings. Now let's see the situation with Camby, maybe if Billups comes both will want to play there. That would be a hell of a roster.

I think Gray would be ahead of Camby in the depth chart.. Gray has some useful skills. Camby is useless at this point. We have a chance at Billups IMO. Usually I would say a veteran like him would be looking for a championship at the end of his career, but he's already experienced that already.

I think Gray would be ahead of Camby in the depth chart.. Gray has some useful skills. Camby is useless at this point. We have a chance at Billups IMO. Usually I would say a veteran like him would be looking for a championship at the end of his career, but he's already experienced that already.

If somehow Billups can come here, that would be awesome, and I remember someone posting that Billups had given Lowry advice this past season, about taking advantage of being the man with the keys to the car. Billups and Lowry would be solid, and I feel Stone sitting in that 3rd string, developmental role would be a step in the right direction.

I think Gray would be ahead of Camby in the depth chart.. Gray has some useful skills. Camby is useless at this point. We have a chance at Billups IMO. Usually I would say a veteran like him would be looking for a championship at the end of his career, but he's already experienced that already.

Yeah, I've been pushing Billups for a week or two now....And that last part is key.

All things being equal, of course he'd choose a contender....but are they equal? He already has a ring, and he wants to play. I'm sure for him, the last kind of offer he wants is one where he sits on the bench as a cheer leader, or basically an assistant coach, and never touches the court. If he wants to play, he'll look to play. And of course, then money becomes a factor, because it's also a likely sign that a team expects more than a benchwarming role if they're trying to outbid others.

And then not many teams can offer him more than the minimum, a legit role, and a legit shot at the playoffs. I mean, add Billups, and you gotta hope his presence helps the team on and off the court. I think it becomes a bit less likely the team underachieves.

Then throw in he at least has one pretty strong relationship on the team in Lowry, and there could be other appealing aspects. I also wonder if he has a decent relationship with Amir from their Detroit days. The biggest question mark here whether there's any hard feeling toward Ujiri, who traded him from Denver. This is the other negative (other than being a non-contender) that might go against Toronto, but I don't think Chauncey is so petty, and so if Ujiri reaches out to him to make him a solid offer, I'm sure he'll listen.

I'll keep hoping somehow that he winds up in Toronto. Also because the back up PG crop is pretty unspectacular.

*Oh, and also given his career, and his role on a team like Detroit, doesn't he seem like one of the best options for the gritty team Ujiri is trying to make?