Lately I've been getting very interested in WWII combatives and found Lee Morrisons Urban Combatives web site. I'll tell ya, he's got a lot simple, effective and often vicious techniques and tatics that seem like they can go very well with Krav. check it out at www.urbancombatives.com it's good stuff. Tell me hwat you all think.

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Edited by MattJ (05/20/0603:48 PM)

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Come on people, this is also a combatives forum, give me some feedback here.

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Lee has a diverse background in martial arts and his love of WWII combatives is a big part.

I like Lee and his materials and hope to get to train with him in the UK in the not to distant future.

WWII combatives fits well with most any stle as it is just basics,with simple movements against soley vital targets.

Remember WWII combatives is a form of Battlefield applicable moves to kill or incapacitate the opponent,only doable on the street as a last resort,but if it is trained in conjunction with another art or style it can be modified for street usage.

Without the other art to guide you in modification ,straight up WWII combatives is just a killing/incapacitation art.

Yeah I like his stuff, very effective and practical all around. The methods he teaches fits well with anything almost. Tell me how it goes if oyu get the chance to train with him.

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Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon: http://www.zanshinarts.org/Home.aspx,

yes, lees Combatives is excellent. I got all his DVDs and I incorporate alot of this technique and ideals into my own KM classes. I find some of his stuff better than some KM even! I also like www.geoffthompson.com

Yeah those combatives tactics are brutal! Geoff Thompson has some good reading and forums on his sight I think.

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I'm going to have to get Lee's book about working the door. Endorsed by Geoff Thompson too! Geoff's book Watch My Back is very instructional for those interested in the brutal reality of street combat.

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Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon: http://www.zanshinarts.org/Home.aspx,

very sobering and very eye-opening! No wonder his stuff caused such a big impact within the MA community. Ju Jitsu (what I study), Judo, Boxing, whatever - for me they all pale into reality insignificance when up against people like Lee and Geoff! Any MA should give you an edge in a real confrontation but how can you train in realism in the dojo? It's something I struggle with. Geoff runs these courses called Animal Days which I may have to go along to. 'Real' training, adrenal handling, fear etc. Is this something anyone else has tried?

The best way to train that is through hard, live (contact) training in a multitude of realistic scenarios as well as good old fashion milling. Just guard up and engage each otehr guns ablazing. Nothing conditions oyu better for ocmbat then hard fight training "alive."

Edited by Stormdragon (01/04/0702:48 PM)

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Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon: http://www.zanshinarts.org/Home.aspx,

when it's atemi waze such as Lee's training, I understand how you can simulate that in the dojo by using gloves and pads. But with Ju Jitsu it's not really practical as the throws and especially locks cannot be done 'alive' as it's too dangerous. I know that sounds really poncey but you agressively hip throw someone on a wooden floor then slap a figure 4 on means one broken uke.

This is why I feel perhaps I did to complement the JJ with a more striking art. But there are a lack of MMA clubs where I live plus I have family commitments and stuff. It's a tough one

I have attended an "Animal Day" event, it was pretty brutal. Your physical and mental abilities are tested beyond belief. They are usually geared for adults due to the fowl language and violence involved. If the one you are thinking of taking is anything like the one I was apart of, you should go.

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If your in a "Fair Fight", your tactics suck.

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Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon: http://www.zanshinarts.org/Home.aspx,

The one I attended was about the different levels of defense. There were drills that involved someone screaming in your face, and you could only react if they attacked you physically. It was alot about your own self control, and knowing what to do and when to do it.

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If your in a "Fair Fight", your tactics suck.

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Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon: http://www.zanshinarts.org/Home.aspx,