Sunday, 20 November 2011

Will the Real You please stand up ! Colin Lagerwell

Will the Real You please stand up ! (This is a rather lengthy note, I hope it blesses you as much as it blessed me writing it :)

We
often hear things like, “Die to self”......”More of You and less of
me”....”I must decrease that He might increase”, and many other more
subtle variations of the same theme....
I want to attempt to
bring some clarity to this, because if we remain in ignorance, it can
be very destructive to humanity as a whole.....and whilst I don't
proclaim to have it all 'wrapped up' (because then there is no more
Mystery to uncover :), I feel a need to draw our focus on some aspects
of God, Man and the Gospel.

The picture of the tabernacle given to Moses in the desert is a very apt description of the human being, Body, Soul and Spirit

I
do not want to get too technical on that, other than to bring some
thoughts to mind.....God gave this pattern to Moses within the context
of them being in the desert....

Outside of this tabernacle was barrenness, nothing to sustain Life existed.

The God-Life was within the tabernacle (Zoe in Greek)

The
Real Life was hidden within the Veil (Note, it WAS there, and was not
placed there by any man, God Himself placed Himself there)

The high priest could only enter within the veil once a year upon making an offering for sin on behalf of the people

(Entrance to Intimacy with Life was based upon removal of sin-consciousness)

When Jesus died, the veil was torn by God........

Note again, When Jesus died, the Presence was already within the temple
(which we are)....Full ACCESS to the Life within was given to All,
because our High Priest entered Once and For ALL, by destroying
sin-consciousness forever !

(A side note: whilst we
preach the sinfulness of man, we lie, and 'place' the veil over people's
spiritual eyes within their minds, forbidding tangible access to the
Life that is already within them....this causes men and women to feel
distant from God, and it causes them to look for Life outside of them...

Delay
and Distance is the theme of religion based on a lie, and this theme is
based on not knowing the Life already within....true contentment is
found within, and it is not by asking 'Jesus into your heart', it is experienced by finding Him within you....Paul
was sent to the Nations, preaching Christ IN the Nations.... ....the
Mystery HIDDEN from ages, now revealed....Christ WITHIN you, the Hope of
Glory..... (remember, Jesus spoke to the Pharisees of the Kingdom
WITHIN....)

Please note, the reference to 'kingdom' is not so much as to a 'place', but a PERSON....we relate to a Person, not a place....if emphasis is on a 'place', we will always look for a place....no real fulfillment is found in a place, only in intimacy with a Person …Oh, that is soooo goooood …..No Distance, No Other Place !!!! Right here in MY heart, closer than anything anywhere !!

To
preach Law, or any form of 'law' or guilt conscious inducing message,
is to prevent one from 'entering' into what (Who) is already within, and
this is where all the false doctrines enter into our theologies, where
we are not satisfied with THIS MOMENT, and have to look for 'another
event' in 'another time'.....How can we not be satisfied with Him NOW,
when He, in ALL the fullness of His love, is closer than our next breath
?

You want know how we are not
satisfied ?...we have listened to a lie of “You must and you should
do.... to get closer and get more of Him”

This lie is based on sin-consciousness, and IT DESTROYS INTIMACY

This
is why God Himself, without our permission, removed all
sin-consciousness from us, so that He could enjoy sweet intimacy with
us, and we could enjoy sweet intimacy with Him.....where
?.........INSIDE us, wherever we are !!

Now,
here is the question, and it is based on Identity, because our Identity
reference is crux to the quality of all our living........

Who are you ?.....Who is the REAL you ?

Man
was made in the image and likeness of God, and it was not a 'shadow' of
the image and likeness of Him, it was the true substance of Who He is,
because within man is God Himself, the very breath of God lives within
us.....

If we have no 'visual'
recognition of who He is within us, and a place of knowing this intimacy
with Him who IS love, we are left floundering for an identity, because
He IS our true identity, He is our Father from whom we came, He is the
One who gave us birth, the One who sustains our very existence....but if
we cannot 'touch' Him within, we feel 'lost', and we look to something
outside of us to define our existence, to give us an identity.......

We
look to our natural parents, their lineage, their status in society,
their culture, their thought patterns become ours, we base who we are on
our natural birth (or we try and not become like them, thereby defining
another kind of false identity)

Are you black or white,
or any other color, is one better than the other, are you rich or poor,
who has the most, who is educated better, where do you fit into society,
are you a misfit, or do you make the grade, basing this grade on a
million different criteria, and all of these grades bringing with them
some form of identity which will exalt you or debase you, or give you a
mixture of different statuses, from wherein you find your niche, and
then perpetuate it to your children......

” I wanna be
just like you when I grow up Dad, just like you....” said the
song-writer as he depicts the continuation of the curse of humanity in
The Cat's in the Cradle.......

It is from this 'identity'
that we find the church hierarchical structures develop, who is bigger
and better, knows more and is closer to God, who can we follow who knows
best, and hence the subsequent abuse that follows, because anything we identify ourselves with OUTSIDE us is barren and death (remember the pattern of the tabernacle, it was a wilderness outside, all the Life was within)

Jesus
said something, and this is where we can get confused and even hate His
words if we are looking in the wrong place for interpretation.......
“You
must deny yourself if you want to follow Me”....and......”Hate your
parents, even your own life”.....seemingly harsh words, especially if we
are looking at it in a literal sense. (hate your parents, deny who you
are ??)

There are many such references
throughout scripture that seem to say we must hate ourselves and deny
ourselves, die to self, etc, where we see ourselves being the object of
loathing in God's eyes and hence our own eyes.....you are as filthy
rags, you are dirty, untouchable, shameful.......from this we develop a
self loathing, and further, a loathing for others.....and true
friendship and fellowship within humanity becomes something that is just
a distant memory, seeming that belongs to an era of a lost
paradise.....

We have developed a
false understanding of God and Man, and of the beauty that is hidden in
within scripture...hidden to be discovered...

Paul
speaks of a law, a working of something within him that brings death
…see where this fits in ? What is working within him, and where does it
have it's attachment ?

Barrenness is death in the wilderness by placing an identity on something external....
See where Jesus' words in John 3:16 come in with reference to perishing !

A
virus, the law of sin and death, attaches itself to a 'form of life'
that is not of God, to an identity that is derived from external
sources.....
This is not to say anything and everything external
is not of God, EVERYTHING is of God and is VERY GOOD..........(In fact,
it is in knowing our true Identity that ALL things are enjoyable......)

(This is key) ...an Identity placed on anything external is
destructive, because it has no relevant reference to Life, it brings
comparisons and fightings, death and greed, poor and rich, and
eventually wars amongst nations.

This virus is not “you”, and especially, neither is the Identity based on external reference,
this False Identity is exactly that...it is FAKE.....We can NEVER
experience LIFE, which is intimacy with our God, by presenting a Fake ID
document or passport
...(Thank you Fay for this insight)...
..Mankind's
true reference is Christ (already) within, because we are Bone of His
Bone, Substance of His Substance, Person of His
Person......however......He becomes just a longing, or something distant
if we are 'disconnected' from knowing and experiencing Him within us,
and we either look for Him outside, or we long for Him to 'come again',
or we wait for Him to 'take us away', or we invite Him to 'come in' or
pray for God to 'do something more', then we look to the anointed pastor
or apostle or prophet for a special word that will give us hope, and so
the list goes on in it's variations on the same theme......Distance and
Delay and someone elses new revelation of the next move of God to bring
us to Him...

When Nicodemus spoke to Jesus, he asked a very valid question....
”HOW do I get back into my mother's womb to be born anew?”

He was definitely on the right track....unfortunately, we have made a cursed doctrine that says 'you must become
born again' to enter heaven, once again placing the Distance and Delay
theme into operation, also separation within humanity based on something
we must do (External Identity - barrenness and death)....all out of
ignorance of what was going down....

Jesus used the word 'anouthen' which means 'from above'............

Let's
look at that.....How can we enter into that place before anything of
this world has had an impact on us ? Before we have picked up any
identity based on an external reference ? (even unborn babies pick up
certain patterns of thinking based on transferred feelings from external
influence).....How can we be brand spanking innocently New, without any Identity reference 'from below' ?

We
began in God... in the mind of God we were born, and He 'breathed' us
into being, entering our mother's womb at conception, a joint effort
between father and mother (well, not necessarily an 'effort' :)) and our
heavenly Father, the external part of us being 'dust', and the other
part of the giver of Life from His own being

(remember the tabernacle, the construction was hand-made, but the Life within was not 'made', it was of Him ?

Man's
true identity is that we are of Him, He defines us, we have 'Made in
Love' stamped on and in us....(even a baby born of rape) that is who we
are, perfect and complete, nothing missing, nothing broken......

But we don't know it, neither can we see it or experience it - without vision my people perish ! !

We
are born into ignorance of who we are, and so begins a search that can
only culminate in our return to the understanding that we are OF HIM, and that what He alone thinks of us defines us, NOT what anything external can give definition to and of us.

Here's a question …...

Did Jesus die ? (Ok, now it's time to shoot me down :))
He
came in the likeness of sinful flesh, and although Jesus did not fall
into the trap of the false identity, He was not immune to and was
certainly tempted by the Adamic mind in Him, to take on EVERY form of a
false identity by all the impacting circumstances of life, since the
time of His conception, even the threat of death immediately after His
entrance into this world and it's ensuing rejection.

He
literally FELT AND EXPERIENCED EVERY temptation of Mankind (think a bit
on that....the rapist, the child molester, the abused wife, the orphan,
the foster child etc.), yet overcame it all by knowing His Father's
love and affirmation within Himself, Himself having no veil of
sin-consciousness, and keeping it that way by not indulging in a false
identity....

Throughout His life, from conception to death, He hears these words within Him :
“You
Are My Much Loved Son In Whom I Am Well Pleased, and All That I Have Is
Yours”............this defines to Him who He really is, the Truth that
is the antidote to a False Identity
......Yes He did die, but He also did not...... mmmmm??

What
died, was every Identity Reference to anything external, including His
body and any form of 'separation inducing identity' based on Gender,
Race, Size, Color, Creed, and with this death, the attachment of the
'virus' of the law of sin and death lost it's final debilitating grip on
Mankind......
At His death, having defeated Mankind's worst nightmare of the False Identity of feeling separate from God, He says “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.....” and with Him, so were we,
being totally included in His death and the committal into the hands of
the Father of Life as the veil of blindness to the Life within us was
torn...... Once I was blind, but now I see !

The
disciples were sorely disappointed in His death, and went on their way,
a sorry bunch of 'losers'....until.......He rose again, no longer
'seemingly' defeated by the judgement of death that (our) sin
brings......Peter cries out later in one of his letters.....WE HAVE BEEN
BORN ANEW BY THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST......and in this statement he
is overwhelmed by the truth of Mankind's inclusion in what God has done
in Christ.......

Paul had a clear understanding of this when he so vividly describes : One
Body and One Spirit, One Hope, One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One
God and Father, who is over all and in all and living through all.....an
ALL inclusive Oneness that has no Distance or Delay, but is an intimacy
of such a magnitude in the heart of God that is can be described in no
other way but ONE

Our consciences have been
cleansed of all the guilt and shame inducing things we have done or not
done, things that we are not or what we thought we were...
ALL
references to any external False Identity have been destroyed forever,
all the guilt and shame, the condemnation and the comparisons, the 'Us
and Them' Identity which formed separating inducing thoughts and
attitudes, have been destroyed in ONE act of righteousness where the
veil of separation WITHIN us was torn......we have entered into the
'New'....yet ..Original.....Identity of Man....and NOW we experience the
Life that has always been inside of us, but could not access before.....Life as Jesus said we would experience.....Knowing our Father and the Son (John 17:3)

To end....here is my main thought......

Who are you ?
Who is the real you ?
By what do you define yourself ?

If
we entertain thoughts of “I must die to self”....” I must decrease so
He might increase”....”I must die in the wilderness”..... “I am in the
wilderness”.....”I am going through a wilderness experience” …..” I must
become the ultimate nothing”....and all other similar thoughts....what I
am really saying is, I still define myself from an exterior
perspective, which of course will bring death and separation...the
problem with this is, it is a lie.....I cannot define myself by a lie, because it is a FALSE Identity, and is NOT ME.....

Yes,
we can still hang onto what is false, and often we do, and we do go
through things that bring us to focus on these things that we hang onto,
but if I own it as ME, I am in error, and stand a chance of living out a
schizophrenic existence until I realize I am One person with only One
identity, and that is defined by Christ in me.....

To
continue in any form of …”You must do to become” is to speak poison
into lives....We should never have preached the sinfulness of man since
the cross. We need to understand that there is only One message, and
that is the Righteousness of Man through the removal of all that is
false by the death and resurrection of Jesus and our full inclusion in
this work, and in this we would be declaring the Truth of who we
(mankind) really are, and not a potential truth..

To
speak or think anything other than “You Are My Much Loved Son and
Daughter and All I Have Is Yours” to ANYONE is contrary to Mankind's
redemption and perpetuates the False Identity which Jesus destroyed on
the cross, and thereby perpetuates sin....

Sin only has it's ability to attach itself to a False Identity....if
we want sin to perpetuate in this world with all it's ugliness of greed
and separation, it's us and them mentality with all it's filthy stench
of inferiority and superiority inducing attitudes, then we should carry
on with identifying ourselves (who we perceive ourselves to be) with a
lie.....
To place 'confidence in the flesh' is not so much
about your natural abilities, it is primarily about
identity......placing confidence in an identity formed by your natural
existence will produce both arrogance and inferiority, and they both
stink as filthy rags and will repel those around you....yet knowing your
true being, which existed in love before your natural birth, has such a
powerful confidence with absolutely no trace of arrogance, and the
fragrance emanating from this 'knowing' carries a recognition and
remembrance to those around you of their own true being which was
Created in Love.....

We have this One Moment
we live in, it is the Moment of Oneness in Him, In us...Pure intimacy
with Love, In Love...and in 'This Moment', one day is as a thousand
years, yesterday is the same as today and tomorrow.......

In
this Moment, we see Him inside us with unveiled eyes, and in His eyes
we see ourselves mirrored as we recognize we are His grand view, and we
hear Him say :

“ I AM soooo pleased with you, My love, you are not defined by any other, but by Me....Above all else, guard your heart from any other definition of who you are, for out of your heart, Life issues forth" ..Know this and live !
“You
are always Mine, and always were, and all I Am and all I have is Yours”
says the Voice inside us, and the fragrance of Love and Life gushes out
from our innermost being, a sweet smelling Presence as the Earth soaks
in the Rain

We drink it in and we are
satisfied.....we look around us and with amazement we see another
standing by us, it is a friend, and then another, and another, all
equally represented in the New (yet Old as Forever), and brotherly
affection is born as we see all our siblings and friends and enemies
alike, not according to any barren external reference, but One in
Him..........

Overwhelmingly loved and
defined by The Father of Lights who has given us every good gift by
giving us each other in Him.......Jesus said in John 17:22-23:

"I have GIVEN THIS TRUE Definition of 'Who you Really Are' in My love so that you ALL may be One"

Will the REAL YOU PLEASE stand up !

Francois and Lydia's back yard, with Fay, Mary-Anne and Lydia

Karen ButlerI
know I'm going to love this and I haven't even read it yet. the
premier question to answer is....Who am I? if you get tht right
everything else fallsinto place. ....coming back to read after i
finish my training videos.....:)

Do
you know why Love awakens the heart...because we know it is true of and
for us....when we understand the Gift of God, our right standing with
Him, we know it is the best thing any Father would do for His children
to discover the love He ...has always had....we are His treasure, and He wants us to really know it....
I often hear things like "God loves us because that's the way He is, he
can't help but love us despite ourselves", and whilst that has an
inkling of truth, it is tainted with sin consciousness....He loves us
because we are VALUABLE to Him, because He sees in us the same way but
MUCH more profoundly what we see in our own children, we are to Him what
He would gladly give His life for (and He did)....His treasure, His
wealth ! (maybe we just should not think differently to HimSee more

Can
I say how refreshing it is to read through these truthful and
beautifully freeing insights Colin.. It is rare to see such
comprehensive, well researched thinking which is bang in the centre of
christian thinking.. Well done.. I love thi...s.
I had just about given up reading writings from the church... sigh of
relief and precious for me to wake up and find this sitting here..
Havent had brekky yet, however I feel full to the brim :)) ThankyouSee more

Colin LagerwallPleasure,
Kerrie :).....he has so much to show us of Himself, and the thing is,
we say "Show us your glory", and He shows us each other :)))) We are His glory, His trophy, His pride and joy, His view which leaves Him breathless !

Absolutely
agree with this. The whole false ego/identity perspective.. He has
revealed very similar threads of gold along this line to me over the
years, throughout my studies (social culture, identity, psychosocial
development, attachment,...,
christian worldveiw etc). It is such a beautiful revelation.. This is
so freeing.. It has changed my world (inner), my whole thinking.. The
veil has lifted off and I am no longer blind.. ha! I met him 30 years
ago. Social culture exists in all groups, including the church. For me, I
needed to leave that as the "false prophets" were so noisy I couldn't
hear a thing..! - led along unknown pathways.. Wow..amazing journey. I
would be very interested to read any bits you made have related to
spiritual abuse for my work in the fieldSee more

about an hour ago ·

Colin LagerwallKerrie,
I have a few notes, you are welcome to browse through them..I re-shared
a few this morning as someone was wanting to look at them with similar
thoughts....perhaps we can friend each other then you are more than
welcome to use what you like

Colin LagerwallIf
we keep 'identity' as the focus in most (all ?) scripture, it brings a
whole new dimension to what is really being said..the thing is, if we
then can determine what is a false identity, then how can I refer to it
as "who I am"....I need to recognize that it is NOT me, and get to know
the real me, and speak from that point of view (and of course see others
in that same light as well)

about an hour ago ·

Kerrie Lee AndersonYes..noticing,
contemplating, unlearning and shedding.. "I will lift my voice to Him,
and show Him my face" Song of songs. (My true face/identity, ?)

YES...no
masks necessary, because He loves YOU, adores YOU.....Adam and Eve
covered themselves with fig leaves (a figment of themselves), and in our
psyche, this to say : in our shame we place defenses and walls up to
prevent further hurt a...nd
dishonor, and we are left with a shell of ourselves, protecting the
vulnerable interior (it's a natural response), but we are not designed
to stay that way, and in KNOWING His love and honor for us
(individually), these defenses are able to be dropped as we learn to
trust Love again (maybe for the first time), and the real YOU emerges in
all your beauty and display of His creation...A hard heart is only hard
because it is being protected, but it also cannot respond to and in
love (it can force a kind of love, but it lacks reality)....Love
received 'breaks' open this hardness, and oh what a treat to see the
person inside respond in the purest of love and real compassion !See more

about an hour ago ·

Kerrie Lee AndersonShedding of our own self loathing, shame, (coverings/mask etc)..courage to be vulnerable/build
trust (another huge factor here).. Practicing being truthful in our
relationships,..unlearning the directions/labels from the "noisey loud
voices (both real and percieved)".. unlearning.. Coming as a child..
creative and innocent... so many precious thoughts..

‎"You
Are My Much Loved Daughter/Son In Whom I Am Well Pleased"...this is the
Voice Jesus thrived on during all His revilement Earth, and at the
height of the hatred against Him, stripped naked and totally vulnerable,
He is able to respond ...with genuine compassion - "forgive them....."

It can be no different with us....we need to know that same Voice
consistently and constantly whispering (shouting ?) inside of us, saying
the same words, and the wonderful truth is, this is exactly what our
Father is saying to us all the time, in so many different ways...

...if we expect condemnation, we close our ears, we shut down, and the
hardness persists and the pretenses remain, and we 'lose our soul' to a
false identity.....How we so need to let ALL people know what Love is
saying all the time....watch what happens to this world when we get to
hear that Voice !!!

This is why I cannot keep quiet, even if
it flies in the face of all our current 'christian' theologies (which it
doesn't, it just redefines what was really meant :))))See more

Chris WelchSin
only has its ability to attach itself to a False Identity....if we want
sin to perpetuate in this world with all it's ugliness of greed and
separation, it's us and them mentality with all it's filthy stench of
inferiority and superiority inducing attitudes, then we should carry on
with identifying ourselves (who we perceive ourselves to be) with a
lie..... Yesterday I was beginning to share fresh insight on Genesis 3.
This insight has come from learning a bit more about how "control" and
"manipulation " work. This can be gleaned from the truths, half truths
and complete lies on the internet about the way those who follow Satan
behave, and then by relating this back to how the father operates in
transparency, Love, openness, a drawing and a wooing by His beauty and
Personhood, as opposed to a forcing, a raping, a manipulation that are
the devil's last hope that anyone would ever want to associate with him.
"Sin only has its ability to attach itself to a False Identity...." is
probably one of the most serious heavy weight sentences I've read all
month. The FIRST thing Genesis 3 was about was how the devil "set up" a
false identity in the minds of Adam and Eve. And as long as people
cling to this, the devil is pretty much free to do with us what he
pleases.It is the last thing to go.All through evangelicalism and
charismatic Christianity this "false identity" continues untouched.

2 minutes ago ·

Chris WelchI
wrote to John Wimber in the eighties that we as the Body of Christ were
going to experience more than the release of spiritual gifts....which
is akin to Holy Place Christianity. There's this beautiful altar of
incense right by the veil. Now we know all this occurred 2000 years
ago....but as the "Body of Christ", certainly in the 80s, we didn't know
this. We were still walking around with our original "false identity".
So the veil wasn't real for us. It was as though it had never been torn.
Apparently, I learned only this month,the revelation I had about the
Two Goats....one to take care of sin, one to take care of our false
identity....this all comes into play at the Feast of Tabernacles during
the Day of Atonement. This is when the veil being rent becomes
"consciousness" for every believer. Last century was about
Pentecostalism and the Holy Place. This one is about the THIRD ROOM of
the TabernacleIt could have been so the minute we got to know
Jesus....but mostly it doesn't. But in order for the consciousness of
Jesus Christ to become a permanent reality for us, it is at this point
the False Identity MUST leave, Must be exposed. I will be writing more
about false identities.This is how the devil works in everything he
does. Understand I am not talking about the Jewish Feasts.I am talking
about how the Holy Spirit who Jesus promised would lead us into all
truth, has been trekking the people of God through their own
"consciousness" of the experiences of the Tabernacle.

to Bonnie Morris
on her status re Genesis 3:Nevertheless, if we never moved from this
one conversation for a year, that would be small fry since all of us
have been duped for literally thousands of years. We have taken the
blame for what wa...s
not ours...and taken none of the responsibility for what was ours to
take. Watch carefully how it works. Genesis 3. The devil sells us all
something which is not true at all....that there is such a thing as
being a god in our own right. Doesn't exist. We either serve one master
or another. When we serve any other master apart from the ONE, we click
into an alien spirit...which we do not control, it controls us.Then we
feel so bad....which is the whole idea ofcourse....that we cover our
shame with the most futile covering....figleaves. Now figleaves are
ridiculous....and they have holes in. Absolutely useless. Yet because
they are useless we feel we cannot go to God and accept responsiblity
for that part of the equation that was ours. 1We talked to strange serpents. 2We picked up lies about the goodness of God.
3And our heart was infected with a total delusion....that we could rise
and be gods in our own right, able to choose good from evil. Which is
to choose to lock ourselves into founding our lives on "what we think",
on what our left-brains are saying, instead of listening to our
insides....which are now shot....because of excessive overpowering
shame. The chapter specifically describes how God targets all these
obstacles with His truth that sets us free....and is a perfect mirror of
what Jesus was also doing with Peter on the shore of Galilee, asking
him persistently whether Peter loved Him.See more

Bonnie
this is outstanding stuff and it shows the importance of Francois and
Andre's message, which is speaking the plain truth about the Father's
original plan. Now what religion is, is this figleaves business. It
clothes us in the wrong s...hame,
but NEVER addresses our real part in it all. In my recent reading about
how Illuminati people operate, coupled with a mentalist here called
Derren Brown, I've been relating this back to Light, and starting to
glimpse more of how the EZekiel 8:10 scrawlings work. Illuminati people
destroy foundation in children and slaves through calculatedly breaking
the Ephesians link "the Father from whom every family on earth receives
its name/character/foundation.

Colin Lagerwalland
Chris, real love (the genuine no hidden agenda stuff), can only operate
from our true identity, the other is just as fake as the figleaves

5 hours ago ·

Chris WelchReal
love also cannot centre itself in Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
stuff. or put another way , real love only works NOW. Our plans are for
the future.Or our perceptions are about how the past was. But LOVE is
NOW, and that operates from a different place right within us. I've
never seen that so forcefully here this morning: http://www.holdingonloosely.com/deep-calls-to-deep/
With Love at the centre we are free to do all. Living in the control of
our own perceptions it actually is impossible to experience NOW, we're
too much in the future in worry, or too much in the past in regret or
pride. Now it's one thing to teach this stuff, it's quite another to
gather together and live there as ONE. So for this reason was the Holy
Spirit given so that we would know how (in the Spirit) to maintain the
unity of the Spirit until we arrive to the unity of the faith.The Holy
Spirit builds the landing strip as more and more Kingdom comes into
land.Here I speak of "outer enduring manifestation" or unity of faith,
rather than what Jesus plunged us into which was unity of Spirit. Not by
might, nor by power but by my Spirit expresses the language by which
this is accomplished. The language of the Spirit is the language of the
Tabernacle and the Feasts, but not the Jewish outer forms, the inner
corporate experience of the Book of Hebrews Melchizedek order. The
reason Paul wrote : I cannot speak much of this now, was that it is on a
"timing release". People in the Pentecostal revelation are having that
stage revealed to them, subjects to do with the Holiest Place and Jesus
living as us are at that time impossible to comprehend. But then the
Body grows, and the Holy Spirit releases more according to His heavenly
language.

Jumping out of the boat, Peter walked on the water to Jesus. But when he looked ...down
at the waves churning beneath his feet, he lost his nerve and started
to sink. He cried, “Master, save me!” – Matthew the disciple.See more

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This blog was conceived on the 8th August 2008,hence its title. 8 is the number of new beginnings, which was also the prophetic declaration over the Church through various prophets in 2008.On,Now,To the Third Level is not some elite form of Christianity. It is God's Norm. Watchman Nee would have called it the Normal Christian Life. Others in time past called it brokenness. We call it life. Rob Rufus explains in "Taking Away The Veil" that Christ has opened the way through to God for us. We can live there.Why bother using the phrase "Third Level"? Because there are 3 places in God's Tabernacle. And there are 3 stages of growth in 1 John 2. More than this, historically and corporately we have known forgiveness by grace. Then from 1906 onward the Church has known a charismatic empowering by grace. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit and supernatural manifestations.But what we are now saying is we can live full-time to God's glory and in God's glory. There are keys of faith to each stage and in these last days God has been revealing the grace keys to this final level....a level that has had the Veil Taken Away.It is the level that is the full realisation of the New Covenant in Christ's Blood, but also the life that God promised when He said "The Knowledge of the Glory of God shall cover the Earth as the Waters Cover the Sea".A FULL LIST OF SUBJECT LABELS CAN BE FOUND LISTED ALPHABETICALLY AT THE BASE OF THIS PAGE.

About Me

This blog has a pre-history in around 100 pages on the comments sections of Dan Bowen's blog - Life on Wings,(see Dan's Vault Link in Chris's Resources below)Much autobiography is included. All posts are by me unless otherwise named.