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Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

You have to get under the salary cap while you can. That alone will save them enough money for a good player.

Get under now, add some big pieces next year (saving a lot in not adding a player + LT savings), shed Teix and Jeter the year after and add some big pieces, replace CC the year after and add more. Then Arod is off the books.

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by ThePinStripes

You have to get under the salary cap while you can. That alone will save them enough money for a good player.

Get under now, add some big pieces next year (saving a lot in not adding a player + LT savings), shed Teix and Jeter the year after and add some big pieces, replace CC the year after and add more. Then Arod is off the books.

I think Tanaka will decide. By that I that mean I think they will offer Tanaka THEIR number, and if he takes it, so be it, bust the cap. If he doesn't, stay under the cap, go with what you have, and solve the pitching next year. I doubt they bust through for anybody else that's out there and I doubt they go overboard on their Tanaka bid.

P.S. That's what I'd do, too.

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Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

I don't get this. What is the difference between 162 games plus playoffs and 183 days?

"As for the Yankees, they get out of a great deal of Rodriguez’s contract for the 2014 season. Because the penalty was for 162 games, not 183 days (what is considered a full season), the Yankees will still be charged $3,155,737.70 toward their luxury-tax payroll. But that means they got out of $24,344,262.30 of the $27.5 million that is the annual charge for A-Rod for luxury tax purposes."

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by YankeeSTH

I don't get this. What is the difference between 162 games plus playoffs and 183 days?

"As for the Yankees, they get out of a great deal of Rodriguez’s contract for the 2014 season. Because the penalty was for 162 games, not 183 days (what is considered a full season), the Yankees will still be charged $3,155,737.70 toward their luxury-tax payroll. But that means they got out of $24,344,262.30 of the $27.5 million that is the annual charge for A-Rod for luxury tax purposes."

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by YankeeSTH

I don't get this. What is the difference between 162 games plus playoffs and 183 days?

"As for the Yankees, they get out of a great deal of Rodriguez’s contract for the 2014 season. Because the penalty was for 162 games, not 183 days (what is considered a full season), the Yankees will still be charged $3,155,737.70 toward their luxury-tax payroll. But that means they got out of $24,344,262.30 of the $27.5 million that is the annual charge for A-Rod for luxury tax purposes."

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by ThePinStripes

You have to get under the salary cap while you can. That alone will save them enough money for a good player.

Get under now, add some big pieces next year (saving a lot in not adding a player + LT savings), shed Teix and Jeter the year after and add some big pieces, replace CC the year after and add more. Then Arod is off the books.

Agreed. Pass on tanaka. Go for sherz next year.

Bidding on tanaka prolly gonna be the 140-150 range anyways. Why not go more n just go all out on sherzer?

Spend the 20+ mill u were gonna spend on tanaka on signing everyone and their grandma on international talent that dont require a MLB contract? Or hire 100 more coaches to individually babysit every prospect til they dont suck

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by ober0n98

Agreed. Pass on tanaka. Go for sherz next year.

Bidding on tanaka prolly gonna be the 140-150 range anyways. Why not go more n just go all out on sherzer?

Spend the 20+ mill u were gonna spend on tanaka on signing everyone and their grandma on international talent that dont require a MLB contract? Or hire 100 more coaches to individually babysit every prospect til they dont suck

Frankly, tank 2014 n go thru a bridge year. Its about time...

Heck, trade CC when the dodgers or angels get desperate midseason...

And what if Scherzer doesn't make it to FA?

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Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

I think it is possible that Alex's suspension makes the signing of Tanaka or any other major league free agent much less likely. The suspension enables the Yankees to stay under 189 in 2014. There was no chance of this if the suspension was reduced to 50 games or less.

Winning does not seem likely in 2014 even with Tanaka, not even with the addition of a few others like Reynolds and Balfour. The Yankees already made their free agent publicity to sell season tickets. It is possible that they now are going to tread water in 2014 and aim to start anew to try to rebuild a championship caliber team starting in 2015. I do not know whether that is a good business strategy, but it does not seem to me to be a bad baseball strategy.

If they do make the huge offer necessary to sign Tanaka, I think it will reflect an extremely high evaluation of his talent (wrong or right), rather than desperation to be competitive this year.

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by Black Sabbathia

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.

I feel the same way about Tanaka. I don't have any illusions that it will make them a favorite this year, but the chance to get a solid or better pitcher in his prime years is too big of an opportunity to pass up. This is a move for a at least the next six years, not just 2014

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Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by Black Sabbathia

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.

1B is a question mark this year. Teixeira is coming off two injury seasons at age 34.
2B is a question mark this year. Roberts is coming off four injury seasons at age 36.
SS is a question mark this year. Jeter is coming off an injury season at age 40.
3B is a question mark this year, with A-Rod suspended.

CL is a question mark this year with Rivera retired.

SP is a question mark this year, with Sabathia coming off his career-worst season at age 33. Pettitte is retired. Kuroda is 39. Pineda is coming off two injury-lost seasons.

What gives anyone, the idea that we can contend this season even with one or two more signings?

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by Black Sabbathia

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.

Originally Posted by Yankee Fan In Boston

I feel the same way about Tanaka. I don't have any illusions that it will make them a favorite this year, but the chance to get a solid or better pitcher in his prime years is too big of an opportunity to pass up. This is a move for a at least the next six years, not just 2014

I agree with all the above-well said!! If Hal doesn't spend the dollars needed to contend, I will feel that I've been lied to.

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Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by Black Sabbathia

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.

Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston

I feel the same way about Tanaka. I don't have any illusions that it will make them a favorite this year, but the chance to get a solid or better pitcher in his prime years is too big of an opportunity to pass up. This is a move for a at least the next six years, not just 2014

Re: Impact of A-Rod Suspension

Originally Posted by Black Sabbathia

Get Tanaka and worry about next year next year

They already pussyfooted around $189 last year and that got us out of the playoffs and the lowest attendance and ratings they've had in some time. They publicly claim a commitment to excellence and winning trumps all attitude. Good. That's the team I'm a fan of. The roster as presently constituted does not appear to have a realistic shot at being the best in the league. So pump some money into the rotation, fill the other holes on the roster, and worry about $189 when we have a roster that's good enough to win and get under that #. They can reset the tax any year, it doesn't have to be 2014. It's Jeter's last year. Go all in. Please.