do you guys get one off just MDMA? normally my comedown is it just usually wears off, then i'm tired. the next day i'm usually feeling just fine, maybe tired if i didn't sleep much. why do i hear so much about people having terrible comedowns/hangovers? i normally take 3-5 pokeballs too, so i'm not dosing low.

Asyd420

29-03-2011, 01:41

i don't get hangover just afterglows

fernsal1

29-03-2011, 01:57

i got a comedown on my first time bc i did a lot of pills, couldnt eat and didnt feel so good. second time did only one and got a comedown wasnt as worse but my skin was turning yellow. third time took a lot again and that was the first time i experience depression and trouble sleeping. fourth time took a lot and felt depression, anxiety, mood swings, depression, hard time focusing, and had trouble saying words. last time i rolled only took one and wasnt able to roll but the comedown was just as bad.
I guess some ppl dont experience a come down or it could be that i was spacing my rolls out to just one month.

llama112

29-03-2011, 02:51

My comedown sucks!!! I don't understand why others don't get that bad of a hangover. When I first started, I took practically nothing. Now I'm taking more but probably only an "average" does (if that exists).

I'm tried for the next few days ... and the next day I am just completely out of it. I can't focus well (especially on homework). I can get pretty sad/depressed. I also HURT (but that might be from dancing so much). As in stairs = torture for me! (and I'm in decent shape so it's not that! lol) And lack of motivation. And I can barely eat. I just feel "bla".

I have to schedule myself when I can do m - can't be just any day. I have to make sure I'm not doing anything important the next day, lol.

I dunno how people are perfectly fine the next day!!! :P I'm jealous hah

Oh forgot to say
My bf says I come down harder (get sad, depressed, unmotivated) because I am naturally happy. So I have a lot of serotonin and it disappearing is just not normal at all. And other people (like him) do not have as much and so he loses less than I do. That might also explain why I am crazy happy on m (I know it helps make you happy and all but everyone is impressed at my happiness and lovey-ness)

Raven SWE

29-03-2011, 04:07

My friends call me the comedown kid...
Mine are usually pretty bad, and I gurn a lot so I absolutely rape the insides of my cheeks. If I rave on a Friday my apetite is usually back by Sunday night, fully restored on Monday.
I'm also tired until Monday, and the Saturday I feel like death :P All worth it though IMHO

pnut3844

29-03-2011, 11:35

My comedown sucks!!! I don't understand why others don't get that bad of a hangover. When I first started, I took practically nothing. Now I'm taking more but probably only an "average" does (if that exists).

I'm tried for the next few days ... and the next day I am just completely out of it. I can't focus well (especially on homework). I can get pretty sad/depressed. I also HURT (but that might be from dancing so much). As in stairs = torture for me! (and I'm in decent shape so it's not that! lol) And lack of motivation. And I can barely eat. I just feel "bla".

I have to schedule myself when I can do m - can't be just any day. I have to make sure I'm not doing anything important the next day, lol.

I dunno how people are perfectly fine the next day!!! :P I'm jealous hah

Oh forgot to say
My bf says I come down harder (get sad, depressed, unmotivated) because I am naturally happy. So I have a lot of serotonin and it disappearing is just not normal at all. And other people (like him) do not have as much and so he loses less than I do. That might also explain why I am crazy happy on m (I know it helps make you happy and all but everyone is impressed at my happiness and lovey-ness)

its probably because the pills were cut with meth or something else. clean pills make you have no comedown, unless your abusing.

rickolasnice

29-03-2011, 19:24

its probably because the pills were cut with meth or something else. clean pills make you have no comedown, unless your abusing.

Bull shit.

Bsiren

29-03-2011, 19:50

It's a major misconception that pure MDMA is a fabulous come-down free drug, and that it's the result stimulating contaminates that causes comedowns. MDMA is uniquely serotonin depleting, which can lead to all sorts of uniquely disturbing after effects.

Some people seem to handle post- MDMA use recovery better than others, perhaps because of sleep, diet, genetics, spacing of use etc.

Certainly, methamphetamine and piperazine have far worse come-downs (IME), but MDMA can really do you in afterwards too. It's important to respect it. I find piracetam beforehand and 5-htp afterwards helps a lot.

Samthe_Recordman

29-03-2011, 20:04

I Remeber the last time i rolled about 7 hours later i felt like a zombie my pupiles were still dilated i had like green and back circles around my eyes and i felt cracked out

llama112

30-03-2011, 00:34

its probably because the pills were cut with meth or something else. clean pills make you have no comedown, unless your abusing.

Good point - I know that sometimes my pills are cut with meth. Not all the time but probably often enough. So that's really just a meth comedown then?

pnut3844

30-03-2011, 00:49

Good point - I know that sometimes my pills are cut with meth. Not all the time but probably often enough. So that's really just a meth comedown then?

yea. my pills back in the day usually had a little meth in them, but i prefer that.

pnut3844

30-03-2011, 00:55

Bull shit.

nope not bullshit, truth

sir_thizzalot

30-03-2011, 01:21

Bull shit.

Truth for me.

I Remeber the last time i rolled about 7 hours later i felt like a zombie my pupiles were still dilated i had like green and back circles around my eyes and i felt cracked out

Sounds like pipes or methy pills.

With clean pills, I get no comedown. I feel a little physically tired sometimes (mostly if I've been active while rolling..) but don't feel bad, and often feel a little bit more happy than I would be.
All that is true unless I have a tolerance... tolerance makes a huge difference. A few weekends in a row rolling will make many of us who normally have no comedown start to feel shitty/depressed afterwards.

The biggest reason for the comedown people complain of is pipes and meth IMO. People call any colorful street pill "ecstasy" and bitch about their comedowns from huge meth bombs or red saints...

So 1) They're actually eating meth bombs or pipes, 2) They have a decent tolerance, 3) They're not-too-healthy people(this WILL make you crash worse in most cases), 4) They take way too many in one day, or 5) SMOKING/DRINKING WITH YOUR ROLL. I think people don't realize that if they didn't do this they wouldn't crash out so bad.

And maby some people with no tolerance get a comedown from 2 or 3 good clean pills.... but I bet they're not the most healthy people to start out.

EDIT- lets not forget the people who drank way too often(or used any drug that uses serotonin much), they should expect a worse comedown.

cryptix420

30-03-2011, 01:31

My comedown sucks!!! I don't understand why others don't get that bad of a hangover. When I first started, I took practically nothing. Now I'm taking more but probably only an "average" does (if that exists).

I'm tried for the next few days ... and the next day I am just completely out of it. I can't focus well (especially on homework). I can get pretty sad/depressed. I also HURT (but that might be from dancing so much). As in stairs = torture for me! (and I'm in decent shape so it's not that! lol) And lack of motivation. And I can barely eat. I just feel "bla".

I have to schedule myself when I can do m - can't be just any day. I have to make sure I'm not doing anything important the next day, lol.

I dunno how people are perfectly fine the next day!!! :P I'm jealous hah

Oh forgot to say
My bf says I come down harder (get sad, depressed, unmotivated) because I am naturally happy. So I have a lot of serotonin and it disappearing is just not normal at all. And other people (like him) do not have as much and so he loses less than I do. That might also explain why I am crazy happy on m (I know it helps make you happy and all but everyone is impressed at my happiness and lovey-ness)

My first question would pertain to your diet. Do you eat a lot of fast food?

rickolasnice

30-03-2011, 10:54

nope not bullshit, truth

For you, maybe. I know of loads of people that get pretty harsh come downs from clean MDMA..

MDMA itself has a comedown..

Keaton

30-03-2011, 11:01

do you guys get one off just MDMA? normally my comedown is it just usually wears off, then i'm tired. the next day i'm usually feeling just fine, maybe tired if i didn't sleep much. why do i hear so much about people having terrible comedowns/hangovers? i normally take 3-5 pokeballs too, so i'm not dosing low.

It's mainly (not always) the people who have abused at some point that report a hangover.
A lot of it is just the individual's experience with the drug. Some people can take a handful of pills and feel great the next day (I'd like to know their secret) and then there are others who take one pill and then have the worst week of their lives.

AndroidsDreamofBTC

30-03-2011, 11:07

I usually feel pretty good on the next day. I sometimes get moody about two days after dropping MDMA. Depends on the frequency and amounts of MDMA involved.

sammycook777

30-03-2011, 19:14

i took mdma for the first time about 4 days ago had the worst experience of a comedown ever feel terrible now still and its the fourth day im really anxious and feel spaced out and am a little worried if i dont improve by friday im going to have to go to the doctors i just want this shit to go away the roll was amazing and never felt anything like it however the comedown i have had has put me off for life and will never be taking it again

Does anyone know or has anyone had a long lasting comedown please message me thankyou

any help would be much appreciated

Keaton

30-03-2011, 19:59

Are you sure what you took was MDMA?

cryptix420

30-03-2011, 20:58

It's mainly (not always) the people who have abused at some point that report a hangover.
A lot of it is just the individual's experience with the drug. Some people can take a handful of pills and feel great the next day (I'd like to know their secret) and then there are others who take one pill and then have the worst week of their lives.

It's about what you eat man. So many people these days don't even realize what they're putting in their bodies when they roll through McDonalds or pound a Coca Cola. Also exercise too (although imo it's 80% diet, 20% exercise) I walk everyday around my neighborhood or the beach or wherever and that's plenty.

It really doesn't get much simpler than the fact that you are what you eat, and if you're on a regular diet of trans/saturated fat, tons of sodium, HFCS, preservatives, artificial colors/flavors like must of the rest of America and the world, then how can you possibly expect to feel good on even a day to day basis much less after abusing a drug of such high intensity..

I just want people to be healthy. When I'm a shamanistic nutritionist in 20 years you guys will listen to me! =D

I think the other main factors that go into a hangover are staying hydrated, redosing properly (initial dose followed by 1/2 that amount 45 mins-1hr later) & antioxidants. Before I'm gonna do drugs I go to the vitamin shoppe and pick up this $20 bottle of juice called ORAC Super 7. It's pricey, but I can't argue with how great I feel. I get a lot of shit for my girlfriend for the money I spend sometimes on vitamins & organic food & whatnot, but to me it's worth it for the quality of life.

llama112

30-03-2011, 21:40

My first question would pertain to your diet. Do you eat a lot of fast food?

Nope, no fast food. I can't afford it anyway (I'm a student). No pop/soda, not even juice (except if I'm sick or sometimes after m when my throat's really dry), no chips, no store bought chocolate/cookies. The worst thing I eat is homemade cookies. (I love baking and cooking) I try and exercise regularly (I'm not the best at it but I'm in shape and I do better that I used to)

llama112

30-03-2011, 21:42

i took mdma for the first time about 4 days ago had the worst experience of a comedown ever feel terrible now still and its the fourth day im really anxious and feel spaced out and am a little worried if i dont improve by friday im going to have to go to the doctors i just want this shit to go away the roll was amazing and never felt anything like it however the comedown i have had has put me off for life and will never be taking it again

Does anyone know or has anyone had a long lasting comedown please message me thankyou

any help would be much appreciated

It was like that for me my first and second time.

Here are some tips
- do SOMETHING. even though you dont' want to, try to!!
- eat HEALTHY! I lost my appetite and hardly ate for four days. that was part of the problem. fruits, salads, and some protein will help
- take vitamins (5-HTP, multivitamins, vitamin B)
- challenge your brain. the day after I always try to do something to work my brain and kind of get it back into the swing of things. not sure if it actually works, may be some sort of placebo effect, but I feel it helps me!

sammycook777

30-03-2011, 21:50

Are you sure what you took was MDMA?

IM pretty sure it was mdma i felt amazing when i was on it and had the whole i love the world and i couldnt go to the toilet and im sure its the ecstasy that stops the hormones you need to pee but i think it could of been mixed with lsd or something else like that and i think i may of took to much before i come up plus i had had a few bevvys before i done it and when i was on it someone was giving me weed i didnt know what i was doing dont think it helped that i was with people that wernt the right people to be doing it with they didnt make sure i was only doing a little bit just kept topping me up and it was abit overwhelming i feel slightly better tonight hope i continue to get back to normal but the experience i had this week has put me off drugs in a big way

and im fairly healthy i eat good food and work out so its not what that other guy was saying about being unhealthy

sammycook777

30-03-2011, 21:52

It was like that for me my first and second time.

Here are some tips
- do SOMETHING. even though you dont' want to, try to!!
- eat HEALTHY! I lost my appetite and hardly ate for four days. that was part of the problem. fruits, salads, and some protein will help
- take vitamins (5-HTP, multivitamins, vitamin B)
- challenge your brain. the day after I always try to do something to work my brain and kind of get it back into the swing of things. not sure if it actually works, may be some sort of placebo effect, but I feel it helps me!

thanks man im going to steer clear of it for a long time i think and if i did do it again i would make sure i was really sensible done tiny little dabs at a time and would make sure i havent had any alcohol or weed and shit it was a scary experience when i was tripping out though in my room i thought i was a gonner at one point

pnut3844

31-03-2011, 00:31

For you, maybe. I know of loads of people that get pretty harsh come downs from clean MDMA..

MDMA itself has a comedown..

like i said, unless you are abusing, you wont have a harsh comedown. yes you will have a comedown but its not harsh, its what some people here refer to as "afterglow". so the people that get harsh ones either had something like meth mixed in with their pills, or they are abusing. sorry if its not something you wanna hear but its truth.

Cambo

31-03-2011, 01:54

Only time I've had a comedown taking pills was when I got piped lol.
Never had a comedown taking MDMA/good pills.
Get a bit of a sore head later in the night but that happens with Mephedrone too, maybe theres some connection? Who knows.
Wake up the next day feeling fine, bit of afterglow as well so the week after feels good as well :D.

rickolasnice

31-03-2011, 12:44

like i said, unless you are abusing, you wont have a harsh comedown. yes you will have a comedown but its not harsh, its what some people here refer to as "afterglow". so the people that get harsh ones either had something like meth mixed in with their pills, or they are abusing. sorry if its not something you wanna hear but its truth.

omg..

you think everyones brain chemistry is the same?

Yeah it's nowhere near as common to get a harsh comedown without some level of abuse but it's not impossible or even that uncommon..

MagicPaper

31-03-2011, 22:49

anyone get nausea for the few days after? i mean i have been rolling alot in the past few weeks.

cryptix420

31-03-2011, 23:09

^ sprinkle some black pepper into your hand, lick it with your tongue and swallow. Your stomach will feel better.

pnut3844

01-04-2011, 00:44

omg..

you think everyones brain chemistry is the same?

Yeah it's nowhere near as common to get a harsh comedown without some level of abuse but it's not impossible or even that uncommon..

it doesnt have to do with that, if they are clean then it deals with serotonin, unless you have some meth or something cut into pills. did you test these pills that gave harsh comedowns?