lekernel: by the way, it seems M1 takes quite a while before it displays anything. is there any hope this time could be reduced ? it's always bad when people try to power on and nothing seems to happen.

then maybe everything to about 10 is still long hanging fruits, after that it probably gets harder, but... it was 2-3 seconds at the beginning so there are probably ways to bring it back there, if we prioritize this high enough...

wolfspraul: sounds good. being able to get quickly into its regular operation would indeed be best. else, some indicator that it has really activated would also help. it was a little odd to hear rejon talk about how it's "instantly on" yet i had seen him boot a number of times before and there was always a long period of uncertainty if the device was even running.

but my point still stands, we can bring the boot time down to 15 seconds or less with relatively little effort, as it just grew recently, I don't expect particularly hard stuff when bringing it back down

lekernel: the problem (for the user) isn't the boot time per se but the indication whether it is actually starting or not. maybe you can see this from the LEDs. are they a clear enough indication that users will recognize them as such without being told by documentation ?

wolfspraul: i see the biggest issue in it taking so long before there's a video signal. that's annoying if you're in a setup where you're not sure if things work. that should be particularly bad for a device like the M1, when used by a traveling VJ.

kristianpaul: lekernel said he didn't want to put a big logo. but it wouldn't have to be a big fancy splash screen. actually something small is better, psychologically, because a big fancy screen suggests that the system is wasting resources on the splash screen instead of working on getting booted.

kristianpaul: EMS may also be friendlier when it comes to sending power supplies to argentina. EMS goes through the regular postal mail process. so a lot of personal parcels take that route. couriers are considered more for commercial shipments, so they may get pickier treatment.

kristianpaul: but i haven't done any extensive studies. should send, say, five parcels either way, and see what acceptance rate they have. also couriers shipments don't always get molested. e.g., i once bought some power supplies from digi-key, along with some other electronic components, and didn't have problems.

kristianpaul: there is tracking on regular mail as well. it's just a bit spottier than with the couriers. e.g., when i send out a regular parcel, i can track it all the way in argentina, and sometimes even with the postal system at the other end.

wpwrak: yeah, thats true, here in colombia and i noticed when i call postal office about asking tracking for first class mail,i can feel/listen from ther voice they know in wich part of the country is but they just dont say it