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Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:16:11 +0000http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2hourly1By: Stevehttp://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html/comment-page-1#comment-6917
SteveSun, 29 Jul 2007 03:28:58 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6917He put people in place to win a World Series. Enough said!
He put people in place to win a World Series. Enough said!
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Jerry del CastilloMon, 23 Jul 2007 22:00:55 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6916John Henry is the same guy that went on the South Florida airwaves and stated that if they didn't build a stadium for the Marlins, he would build it himself. Once a liar, always a liar. Why you would rank him at the top is just wrong.
John Henry is the same guy that went on the South Florida airwaves and stated that if they didn’t build a stadium for the Marlins, he would build it himself. Once a liar, always a liar. Why you would rank him at the top is just wrong.
]]>By: Wait a Minutehttp://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html/comment-page-1#comment-6915
Wait a MinuteMon, 23 Jul 2007 18:34:40 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6915Loria is indeed among the worst in MLB. Don't be fooled by his stated reasons for having a new stadium built. It's not to increase attendance and have more money to spend on payroll. Rather, it is simply about increasing the value of the franchise so it can ultimately be sold for a bigger profit. Hence the reason for investing as little of his own money as possible. He wants the biggest return possible when he does sell.
The rumor around MLB a few years ago was that Selig engineered the deal to have Loria take over the Marlins instead of moving with the Expos to Wash. DC because they wanted to have a better chance of that franchise flourishing in DC. Supposedly, MLB expected him to screw up the Marlins quickly enough to force either their sale (and move elsewhere) or have the franchise folded. Obviously, no one expected them to win the World Series. Now they are stuck with him.
It also doesn't make Loria look any better as an owner by having an idiot like Samson as his team prez. He's a loudmouth fool and I think it is obvious that players have even less respect for Samson than they do for Loria - a sad statement, in and of itself!
Loria is indeed among the worst in MLB. Don’t be fooled by his stated reasons for having a new stadium built. It’s not to increase attendance and have more money to spend on payroll. Rather, it is simply about increasing the value of the franchise so it can ultimately be sold for a bigger profit. Hence the reason for investing as little of his own money as possible. He wants the biggest return possible when he does sell.
The rumor around MLB a few years ago was that Selig engineered the deal to have Loria take over the Marlins instead of moving with the Expos to Wash. DC because they wanted to have a better chance of that franchise flourishing in DC. Supposedly, MLB expected him to screw up the Marlins quickly enough to force either their sale (and move elsewhere) or have the franchise folded. Obviously, no one expected them to win the World Series. Now they are stuck with him.
It also doesn’t make Loria look any better as an owner by having an idiot like Samson as his team prez. He’s a loudmouth fool and I think it is obvious that players have even less respect for Samson than they do for Loria – a sad statement, in and of itself!
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HeatFanMon, 23 Jul 2007 12:03:49 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6914Loria is one of the worst because he sorrunds himself with an idiot such as David Sampson. His handling of the Girardi situation was awful. The Marlins with $10mm more in payroll would be in the thick of things. Instead he pockets this money to "make up" for his "prior loses"
Loria is one of the worst because he sorrunds himself with an idiot such as David Sampson. His handling of the Girardi situation was awful. The Marlins with $10mm more in payroll would be in the thick of things. Instead he pockets this money to “make up” for his “prior loses”
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peterFri, 20 Jul 2007 15:49:50 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6913Peter Angelos is clearly one of the worse owners and the owners of the Pirates, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati and Kansas City are pretty close to him.
If Henry is such a great owner with Boston why was he such a loser here in Florida?
Loria is not being very honest with the fans. He gets a LOT of money from MLB and even fully funding player developement, he does not come close to spending the rest of it on the team. He has done a very poor job in increasing attendance and it remains with Tampa Bay as one of the lowest in MLB. He is using the lack of a stadium as an excuse for everything that he does not do or want to do. Afterall, a new park in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, have not helped create a winning team or increased attendance in those cities. The bottom line is not the park but the owner - he sets the tone and he creates the environment for a teams success.
Peter Angelos is clearly one of the worse owners and the owners of the Pirates, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati and Kansas City are pretty close to him.
If Henry is such a great owner with Boston why was he such a loser here in Florida?
Loria is not being very honest with the fans. He gets a LOT of money from MLB and even fully funding player developement, he does not come close to spending the rest of it on the team. He has done a very poor job in increasing attendance and it remains with Tampa Bay as one of the lowest in MLB. He is using the lack of a stadium as an excuse for everything that he does not do or want to do. Afterall, a new park in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, have not helped create a winning team or increased attendance in those cities. The bottom line is not the park but the owner – he sets the tone and he creates the environment for a teams success.
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PoloThu, 19 Jul 2007 19:55:07 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6912Mike,
I wonder where Loria would rank in your ranking if in the '02 team switcharoo his Expos moved to Florida and the Marlins moved to Washington DC.
Had this occurred rahter than taking over a team replete with young talent at both the major and minor league levels he would have kept his Expos.
Had that occurred there would be no '03 WS and we would be lookign at 100+ losses right now without Miguel, Hammer and Hanley (no Beckett = no Hanley) and our crappy pitching would be matched by crappy hitting.
Mike,
I wonder where Loria would rank in your ranking if in the ‘02 team switcharoo his Expos moved to Florida and the Marlins moved to Washington DC.
Had this occurred rahter than taking over a team replete with young talent at both the major and minor league levels he would have kept his Expos.
Had that occurred there would be no ‘03 WS and we would be lookign at 100+ losses right now without Miguel, Hammer and Hanley (no Beckett = no Hanley) and our crappy pitching would be matched by crappy hitting.
]]>By: Flush it all awayhttp://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html/comment-page-1#comment-6911
Flush it all awayThu, 19 Jul 2007 18:34:43 +0000http://blogs2.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2007/07/ranking-the-own.html#comment-6911I agree...the fire sale of a couple years ago was inexcusable, but Loria's also done a lot of good things. He didn't hesitate to add salaries for pennant drives (Urbina, Conine, lo Duca, etc.), and you're right about his funding the developmental aspect of the organization. And other than the Girardi incident last year, it's not like he's out trying to grab headlines or making stupid comments.
Taken all together, I'd say ranking-wise he should be middle of the pack, maybe a little lower. I'd love to see what he could do with the team if they had a stadium of our own and more fans in the seats.
I agree…the fire sale of a couple years ago was inexcusable, but Loria’s also done a lot of good things. He didn’t hesitate to add salaries for pennant drives (Urbina, Conine, lo Duca, etc.), and you’re right about his funding the developmental aspect of the organization. And other than the Girardi incident last year, it’s not like he’s out trying to grab headlines or making stupid comments.
Taken all together, I’d say ranking-wise he should be middle of the pack, maybe a little lower. I’d love to see what he could do with the team if they had a stadium of our own and more fans in the seats.
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