Increase FPS!

Post by Protlife

These are just some simple ways to increase your FPS (frames per second) I will do it step by step. Not sure if this is the right section but I think FPS increase could somewhat relate to hardware, I apologize if I am completely in the wrong section.All of the following steps besides step 1 & 2 can be navigated through (Game Menu>System>Graphics) and I am on W7 so if you have XP or anything else you may have to find your resolution differently but it shouldn't be hard.1. Download Game Booster 32. Find your resolution (right click your desktop screen and find 'Screen resolution')3. Disable Vertical Sync4. Lower your graphics, you can slide the bar up and down I would recommend dragging it to the lowest setting.5. Display Mode: I would recommend using 'Windowed (Fullscreen)' if you don't have too good of a graphics card, 'Fullscreen' seems to have a better looking display but I'm not exactly sure it also runs smooth on fs as well.Those are only a few things but those are just simple ways to increase your FPS even by a little if you didn't know this stuff, try it and give me feedback!

Post by Neffi

Download Game Booster 3

This is a terrible idea. It's just crapware. Don't put anymore stock into this sort of bull!@#$ than you would something like MyCleanPC. It's all a scam.

5. Display Mode: I would recommend using 'Windowed (Fullscreen)'

Windowed mode is actually the worst mode for performance. The engine doesn't get exclusive rendering. In other words, if you select windowed mode, the desktop is also being drawn along with Windows' compositing effects. In fullscreen mode, the only thing that gets drawn is the WoW client, so it will run a little better.

I'm sure the community appreciates that you want to help in theory, but leave the advice to people with expertise in the subject. There are plenty of well-written guides on Google already about boosting your gaming performance.

Post by Fetzie

Post by karatechop

4. Lower your graphics, you can slide the bar up and down I would recommend dragging it to the lowest setting.

well that one is obvious to anyone using WoW

Post by Fetzie

Why would finding out what your resolution is improve your frame-rate?

Post by Protlife

These both helped for me and the FPS difference and between Windowed and Fullscreen are only slight, just because I wrote the noobiest, simplest, 'guide' on increasing FPS doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about either. These were just very simple ways to increase your fps for a very new user or someone who hasn't ever used the WoW interface. NOTHING fancy nor did I claim it to be.

Download Game Booster 3

This is a terrible idea. It's just crapware. Don't put anymore stock into this sort of bull!@#$ than you would something like MyCleanPC. It's all a scam.

5. Display Mode: I would recommend using 'Windowed (Fullscreen)'

Windowed mode is actually the worst mode for performance. The engine doesn't get exclusive rendering. In other words, if you select windowed mode, the desktop is also being drawn along with Windows' compositing effects. In fullscreen mode, the only thing that gets drawn is the WoW client, so it will run a little better.

I'm sure the community appreciates that you want to help in theory, but leave the advice to people with expertise in the subject. There are plenty of well-written guides on Google already about boosting your gaming performance.

These both helped for me and the FPS difference and between Windowed and Fullscreen are only slight, just because I wrote the noobiest, simplest, 'guide' on increasing FPS doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about either. These were just very simple ways to increase your fps for a very new user or someone who hasn't ever used the WoW interface. NOTHING fancy nor did I claim it to be.

Post by Protlife

4. Lower your graphics, you can slide the bar up and down I would recommend dragging it to the lowest setting.

well that one is obvious to anyone using WoW

Ha you don't know the stupidity level of some people on this game, never seizes to amaze me.

Post by Protlife

Why would finding out what your resolution is improve your frame-rate?

It just seems that in my situation when my resolution on WoW matches my desktop resolution the game seems to run smoother and everything lines up such as the UI, addons, action bars. That's just for me personally but I'm sure others feel this way as well.

Post by Triezen

If it is not in your budget to get a better graphics card, there are a few things that you can do to get more FPS. First off for those of you who use tons of addons, some of these addons may actually be stealing performance from your game. I would recommend using addons that don't heavily rely on system resources. Also make sure that none of the out of date addons, if you are using any are causing any issues with your performance. Also, try to keep the number of addons you run to a minimum. Note: There are some addons that may cause issues with other addons causing major issues with game performance. One time I had an issue and had to go through all of my addons and finally found the culprit that was causing the game to lag horribly. Once I removed it, the performance came back.

The higher the resolution you use, the harder your GPU (Graphics Processor Unit) works. I would recommend lowering your resolution first off. If you are using an integrated video chip set, then do not expect much from it, and certainly do not try turning all of your settings up to ultra. If you are having FPS issues, turn down settings that are heavy on system resources such as shading, ect. If you hover your mouse pointer over the appropriate setting, it will tell you which ones will improve game performance in a big way. Simple stuff.

If you are looking to run the game with all settings set at Ultra and having like 60 or better FPS, I would definitely recommend saving up getting a gaming mobo that supports two video cards. You want to have a really good top notch processor (8 core), at least 12gb of ram, and you definitely want a top notch video card with as much video ram as possible. It would be good to have one with 2048. I would recommend getting Nvidia GeForce cards. The last time I tried using an ATI card, it caused artifacts. However, this was a few years back, and I do not know if the newer ones cause issues, but this was based on my last experience with the card brand.

Post by Neffi

never seizes to amaze me.

I love irony.

Give it a rest. Like I said, effort is appreciated. But substance matters. Don't expect the community to endorse or even warmingly receive a guide that's not much of a guide at all. You got your feedback from the community; take it or leave it, but don't claim we're being caustic or try to justify yourself by deferring accusations of stupidity to the community at large -- as if your demeanor towards those supposed idiots suggests you'd really want to help them at all, and are not just trying to save face after poor reception.

Post by Fetzie

If you are looking to run the game with all settings set at Ultra and having like 60 or better FPS, I would definitely recommend saving up getting a gaming mobo that supports two video cards.

SLI and CrossFire are a pain in the backside at times, especially with multi-monitor setups.

You want to have a really good top notch processor (8 core)

Not for WoW. A quad-core like an i5 2500K or 3570K is more than enough. There are no consumer level true octo-cores (each pair of cores on the AMD 8350 shares the floating point calculation unit and are thus not true 8-core processors). The 8 core Intel Xeons cost 1.5-3 grand EACH, and you need two of them.

at least 12gb of ram

Not in WoW, and good luck fitting 12GB RAM on a dual-channel board like LGA1155 or AM3+. WoW uses a grant total of 1.5GB RAM. I've had two WoW clients, DIII and a few other programs open and not go above 4.5GB RAM in use.

and you definitely want a top notch video card with as much video ram as possible. It would be good to have one with 2048.

top notch video card yes, more than 1.5GB is irrelevant for WoW at 1080p.

I would recommend getting Nvidia GeForce cards. The last time I tried using an ATI card, it caused artifacts. However, this was a few years back, and I do not know if the newer ones cause issues, but this was based on my last experience with the card brand.

ATI no longer produces graphics cards (or anything, for that matter). AMD cards are just as good as nVidia cards right now. Projecting your experiences from 4 years ago onto current hardware is a bad idea.

Post by Neffi

I wouldn't say you need a top-notch video card. That would imply something like a GTX 680 or even a 690. That's ridiculous overkill for WoW. You can peak the game out, at ultra with 60 FPS, with much more modest hardware. A 560 is ample horsepower to do it at 1080p, and I'm sure you could manage easily manage that with a lesser card.

Edit: For the record, ATi never stopped business. They had been owned by AMD for quite some time, and it was only just recently that AMD decided to do away with the ATi name and rebrand their hardware as AMD. It's still the same engineers and manufacturers producing the card, only with a different logo.

And I tend to recommend NVidia over AMD/ATi as well. Their drivers have always worked much better for me, and things like multi-monitor, SLI and other "extras" always seemed to be more stable and generally perform better with NVidia cards, hardware being equal. You often pay a little bit more dollar-for-performance for NVidia, but that all depends on the generation, and it's usually a very small difference anyway.

Edit: I should point out that, though AMD cards tend to seem better dollar-for-performance (usually), NVidia's tend to get more consistent performance. So while AMD may offer better average framerates at a given pricepoint; NVidia usually offers better minimum framerates, better frame draw latencies, and less hiccups. You have to read carefully into benchmarks when comparing cards, and if you do you'll usually find NVidia is the better choice despite costing 5-10% more for the same average framerate.

Post by loozerr

It just seems that in my situation when my resolution on WoW matches my desktop resolution the game seems to run smoother and everything lines up such as the UI, addons, action bars. That's just for me personally but I'm sure others feel this way as well.

Larger resolution = lower fps. The end. Of course you want to run your screen's native resolution, unless it stresses your PC too much. But it doesn't make it smoother over a smaller resolution. You are being very subjective, while mixing terms.

3. Disable Vertical Sync

What? Why?

Vertical sync is just about the best thing ever. Unless your computer fails to run the game smoothly with the settings you've chosen. FPS beyond your screen's refresh rate is wasted, as it can't display it. Vsync removes screen tearing and prevents wasting your computers resources. In face it has an impact on power consumption, and with some setups it might be significant.

Neffi: Better bang for buck by buying a card by either manufacturer can not and should not be generalized. It changes constantly and differs between price points.

Post by Protlife

Larger resolution = lower fps. The end. Of course you want to run your screen's native resolution, unless it stresses your PC too much. But it doesn't make it smoother over a smaller resolution. You are being very subjective, while mixing terms.

Fullscreen native (1366x768) runs at 100 fps average, fullscreen 4:3 (1024x768) about 135 fps, higher fps = smoother gameplay. I don't know how I'm mixing terms? When people try to get higher FPS it is so their game will look and run smoother. Not looks as in the beauty of the graphics but just not being choppy and running clean.

Vertical sync is just about the best thing ever. Unless your computer fails to run the game smoothly with the settings you've chosen. FPS beyond your screen's refresh rate is wasted, as it can't display it. Vsync removes screen tearing and prevents wasting your computers resources. In face it has an impact on power consumption, and with some setups it might be significant.

Well I play an FPS game I'm sure you've heard of it, Counter-Strike: Source. Now in any FPS config, guide, or anything it always tells you to have it off. And I myself in WoW and CS:S have seen it HELP the smoothness of my game. That may be my computers fault but what if others have a computer like mine? When I have Vsync on it seems to make my game choppy.

Edit: Going to try Vertical Sync on right now.

Post by Protlife

Edit: The game ran maybe a little smoother but my fps dropped from 75-100 to like a flat 60. I even had particle density on ultra when I was getting 75-100, after I put vsync on I put pd to low and still got lower fps.

Post by loozerr

That's because you've got a 60Hz screen. It can't physically display more than 60 frames per second. That is why anything over 60 is useless for people with 60Hz screens and what matter is lack of FPS drops.

About the resolution, you originally said the game runs smoother with desktop resolution, how UI lines up and such. This sounds like native resolution, aka. 1366x768. It runs at lower FPS but it doesn't matter since in your case it's above 60 anyway.

Edit: In FPS games vsync is seldom recommended unless you will never have any fps drop whatsoever. In vsync mode if you lose a frame, in other words get a frame rate drop, at 60Hz native it first drops to 30fps, and then 15 if that isn't enough. You can read about screen tearing related issues here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing . Vsync is developed to counter those. But because it waits for each frame to be fully drawn it can cause up to 16ms of input lag. Seeing how it can screw you over in CS:S it's no wonder they recommend to not use it.

Post by Neffi

There are other implementations than just classic "vsync", and a lot of games use better systems and call it vsync. So don't put stock in the Wikipedia page -- just because WoW has an option for vsync, doesn't mean it has the drawbacks listed on the wiki entry.

In any case, 16.6~ ms of response time is 1/60th of a second. That's pretty miniscule -- well below the human response time, and probably well within the margin of error and processing time of the visual cortex. It also represents the worst case if you're using a good multiple-buffering system, which would allow the GPU to render at a higher framerate and will fetch the most recent frame as opposed to just rendering at strictly 60 FPS.

Enable it and don't worry. If you get one-off issues like low FPS after enabling it, then disable it. It's a feature that should be considered on by default.

Post by Whaddafack

Protlife seems to be the guy that just learnt something about computers and thinks he's a know-it-all. Almost everything he said has close to zero impacts, or has been proved to be useless by others.

Post by delabarra

Few month ago i changed mi HD4870 for GTX 660 and performance is exactly the same (both on always in ultra). No changes at all. You´ll get low FPS in everywhere very populated and on some bosses with to much particle.

Post by soliden

Download Game Booster 3

This is a terrible idea. It's just crapware. Don't put anymore stock into this sort of bull!@#$ than you would something like MyCleanPC. It's all a scam.

5. Display Mode: I would recommend using 'Windowed (Fullscreen)'

Windowed mode is actually the worst mode for performance. The engine doesn't get exclusive rendering. In other words, if you select windowed mode, the desktop is also being drawn along with Windows' compositing effects. In fullscreen mode, the only thing that gets drawn is the WoW client, so it will run a little better.

I'm sure the community appreciates that you want to help in theory, but leave the advice to people with expertise in the subject. There are plenty of well-written guides on Google already about boosting your gaming performance.

Regarding Game Booster 3, that's not entirely true. The program disables a lot of uneeded services that can cause hiccups with the processor as well as increasing TCP packet info. The difference might be small for WoW in terms of a performance increase, but that program definitely helped increase my FPS in BF4 by about 10, which is a pretty big difference.

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