Since the student survivors of the mass murder at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School began their drive to ban the sale of semi-automatic, assault type rifles, the tremendous response from other students nationwide has turned their cause into a strong, grass roots movement..

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TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAID THERE WERE NO STUDIES, DATA or RESEARCH linking cellphone use, video games and other social factors in affecting children's minds inducing depression and other mental factors leading to school shootings and dared me to provide such, I have a great awakening for you. Can't be sure if it was on this thread or one of the hundred other threads on the topic where several people claimed there was absolutely NO studies supporting such, but, while I generally don't watch local news, I was dozing with the TV on and the local CBS affiliate came on and one of their top stories was EXACTLY THAT: a number of studies including one they specifically mentioned out of the Massachusetts's Clay Center, where they had come to the exact conclusions I had earlier outlined. I've included a few links on the Clay Center and cellphone topics that I found doing a quick, cursory search. Considering this is the effect of just normal cellphone usage for communication, and that many video games are played via cellphone, it boggles the mind how some of the people here close their minds totally to the possibility and connections between cellphones, video games, isolation, depression and the rise in aberrant behavior, violence and shootings in school children.

But I took the matter one step further, and for the people who said there was absolutely no research connecting depression and other mental factors with video games, again, just a quick, cursory search, I found THIS:

Since the student survivors of the mass murder at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School began their drive to ban the sale of semi-automatic, assault type rifles, the tremendous response from other students nationwide has turned their cause into a strong, grass roots movement..

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TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAID THERE WERE NO STUDIES, DATA or RESEARCH linking cellphone use, video games and other social factors in affecting children's minds inducing depression and other mental factors leading to school shootings and dared me to provide such, I have a great awakening for you. Can't be sure if it was on this thread or one of the hundred other threads on the topic where several people claimed there was absolutely NO studies supporting such, but, while I generally don't watch local news, I was dozing with the TV on and the local CBS affiliate came on and one of their top stories was EXACTLY THAT: a number of studies including one they specifically mentioned out of the Massachusetts's Clay Center, where they had come to the exact conclusions I had earlier outlined. I've included a few links on the Clay Center and cellphone topics that I found doing a quick, cursory search. Considering this is the effect of just normal cellphone usage for communication, and that many video games are played via cellphone, it boggles the mind how some of the people here close their minds totally to the possibility and connections between cellphones, video games, isolation, depression and the rise in aberrant behavior, violence and shootings in school children.

But I took the matter one step further, and for the people who said there was absolutely no research connecting depression and other mental factors with video games, again, just a quick, cursory search, I found THIS:

It constantly amazes me the number of arm-chair experts on this message board who are often absolutely adamant about getting so much totally wrong.

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I heard today that Google has new aps designed for children ages six and up to use on their own social media sites. They want to establish an ever growing following...addicted to staring at a screen and punching buttons all day long, every day they are alive. Parents should not fall for this crap. Children need to play outdoors, go camping (without electronics), go fishing, learn to grow things in a garden, learn to fix things that need repair, learn how mechanical things work, get into art, music, reading and writing.

I am truly thankful that I went through my formative years (and many years thereafter) without electronic devices.

Since the student survivors of the mass murder at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School began their drive to ban the sale of semi-automatic, assault type rifles, the tremendous response from other students nationwide has turned their cause into a strong, grass roots movement.

Conservatives and their leaders are deeply concerned over the possible results this overwhelming number of kids could have. Conservatives, gun nuts, and Republican politicians are appalled by these kids demanding their safety be a priority over the gun nuts’ lunatic desire to own the phallic symbol that is their favorite to stroke and kiss.

Due to this uncontrollable fear conservatives have at the thought of losing their penile substitute, Mitch McConnell decided to ignore the growing number of young voters in this movement. With the coming mid-term elections, these many, many, many students now have the potential to join with tens-of-millions of progressive voters and put the Democrats in control of congress.

In addition to Mitch, conservative community leaders, conservatives on school boards and school administrators have done all they can to stifle the students’ enthusiasm. And now, the National Parks Service is doing so.

A “March For Our Lives” rally was planned by the Stoneman Douglas survivors to take place on the Mall in D.C., but organizers were refused a permit by the National Parks Service management. A representative for the Park Service cited a conflict with a “talent show” as the reason.

The co-executive producer of “Dancing With the Stars” Deena Katz was brought in by the Stoneman Douglas survivors to plan the major event and has a nearly $2 million budget. The money is was raised with a “GoFundMe page, along with donations from Oprah Winfrey, Steven Spielberg and George and Amal Clooney.”

The “talent show” permit application listed equipment for the film crew’s use for the Mall as two tables, two bikes and jump ropes.

The list on the permit application for the March For Our Lives rally included 14 Jumbotrons, 2,000 chairs and 2,000 portable restrooms to be funded with part of the $2 million.

This equipment will be used by the “student speakers, musical performers, guest speakers and video tributes,” and up to an estimated 500,000 attendees, according to the permit application.

The D.C. location for March For Our Lives rally is just one of many big and small events planned in cities across the nation on the same day.

For the conservatives, the gun nuts, and Republican politicians sworn to serve the NRA, be afraid, be very afraid. And keep trying to silence this protest by these young voters. Their anger is not going away, and their numbers are growing. How many millions in 2018? And how many millions more in 2020? Yes, be afraid, be very, very afraid. (And keep pi$$ing them off. It can only help their cause.)

As always, thoughtful comments are welcome. Unfortunately, the conservatives remain either unaware or will deny their individual response to this thread is their typical nonsense consisting of denial, alternate facts, and/or off-topic silliness. (e.g. non-sequiturs, ratings, transference, deflection, memes, etc.). Their mindless prattle is expected by people of reason, who also realize it is a waste of time to offer the conservatives any reply.

No these kids can't be silenced but they've got to do more than that. They have got to vote this coming November in the midterm election cycle. If you're 18 years old and not registered, register to vote now! If you're going to be 18 soon, register to vote as soon as you are. If you have friends that are 18 make sure they register and they VOTE. If you're away at college plan ahead to receive a mail-in ballot from your home state.

Someone who doesn't vote or votes for any Republican is voting for more sympathies and prayer vigils. Even though the Florida state legislature did a gun restriction on age, and as soon as you forget about it, and are not looking they'll go right back to the old gun regulations by lowering the age limit. Republicans have done this before. Do not be fooled by this.

The NRA is the Republican parties campaign cash cow and they are going to protect that cow no matter what.

The gun rights organization spent a stupendous $54.4 million in the 2016 election cycle, almost all of it in "independent expenditures," meaning spending for or against a candidate but not a direct contribution to a campaign. The money went almost entirely to Republicans to a degree that almost looks like a misprint (but isn't): Of independent expenditures totaling $52.6 million, Democrats received $265. Yes, that's 265 dollars.If you're looking for a reason that politicians are quick to declare that their "thoughts and prayers" are with the victims of the horrific slaughters that have become virtually routine in American life, but do nothing further to stop them, look no further.

I heard today that Google has new aps designed for children ages six and up to use on their own social media sites. They want to establish an ever growing following...addicted to staring at a screen and punching buttons all day long, every day they are alive. Parents should not fall for this crap. Children need to play outdoors, go camping (without electronics), go fishing, learn to grow things in a garden, learn to fix things that need repair, learn how mechanical things work, get into art, music, reading and writing. I am truly thankful that I went through my formative years (and many years thereafter) without electronic devices.

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Agreed. To this day, I do not own a cell phone. I had a couple years ago but just never used them and neither were "smart" phones. One was still analog! And this forum is the only and exclusive extent to which my "social media" extends. And much that goes on here makes me not anxious to look for more. Anyone who has been lucky enough to study psych-ops and digital technologies knows the dangers and potential to get into people's heads, especially children, and program subtle and not so subtle attitudes and behavior into people. The Germans and Russians have made an especially thorough study of this as has the USA.

I heard today that Google has new aps designed for children ages six and up to use on their own social media sites. They want to establish an ever growing following...addicted to staring at a screen and punching buttons all day long, every day they are alive. Parents should not fall for this crap. Children need to play outdoors, go camping (without electronics), go fishing, learn to grow things in a garden, learn to fix things that need repair, learn how mechanical things work, get into art, music, reading and writing. I am truly thankful that I went through my formative years (and many years thereafter) without electronic devices.

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Agreed. To this day, I do not own a cell phone. I had a couple years ago but just never used them and neither were "smart" phones. One was still analog! And this forum is the only and exclusive extent to which my "social media" extends. And much that goes on here makes me not anxious to look for more. Anyone who has been lucky enough to study psych-ops and digital technologies knows the dangers and potential to get into people's heads, especially children, and program subtle and not so subtle attitudes and behavior into people. The Germans and Russians have made an especially thorough study of this as has the USA.

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I have tried other sites, but this is the best I have found. There was one that was close, but they had nowhere near the freedom of speech that exists here. That is good and bad for the postings in that it enables the puerility that is rampant in all but the well protected forums.

Doesn't say much for the world, and the general state of education and intelligence out there.

There was one that was close, but they had nowhere near the freedom of speech that exists here.

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Yes, I'd rate USMB an A- in freedom of speech, unfortunately, that seems to invite a lot of garbage along with it. I say a lot of things kidding, to be provocative or tongue in cheek feeling intelligent readers who follow me can tell when I'm really serious, but unfortunately some amazingly stupid people here seem QUITE committed in their views!

That is good and bad for the postings in that it enables the puerility that is rampant in all but the well protected forums.

The question is not CAN the students be silenced. Rather it is SHOULD they be silenced. That answer is no, they should not be. They should speak, but be heard in context.

They should not be granted guru status on the subject of gun control. Several things. One, legislation made on emotion is rarely good legislation, and the kids are driven by emotion. Two, they are being exploited for political gain by democrats. That is really not controversial, because only those kids who echo the democrat agenda will have a place on the democrat funded stage. Three, how many of the kids come out after the fact to say they knew a shooter was going to do something, but did nothing? IOW, if they want to be heard, they should become part of the solution.

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