Vali31, you have your own opinion on whats gonna happen on this game. If the spread was more than 4.5, then i probably would have no bet and would touch the o/u instead. But the Niners

giving only 3.5 or 4 is very doable. The QB play will be the difference in this game. I also dont think its gonna come down to a FG. BTW, for those that dont know, NINERS are 5-0 in the SUPER BOWL

WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US ?

The NY Football Giants !!!

SF is 5-0 in the SB, I didn't know Montana, Rice, Craig, Cross, were playing. Also is Walsh coaching the SB also? The Ravens played the then 2-0 in SB's NY Giants and smashed them. It will be fitting if Baltimore does the same to the 5-0 SB niners. What ATL did to SF going 17-0 and confusing the garbage out of Harbaugh and SF, believe me Baltimore can do it and Baltimore will not relinquish a lead as that.

Its the LAST Person to darn up... which in your case was Matt Ryan ....

In Seattle I guess you could blame Pete Carol cause he should have watched the Clock and how much time you would give Matt ryan... that game should have been Seattles.... kind of blame the defense too all they had to do was not give them a big play...BUT Seattle Deserves that for that DIRTY CALL at the begining of the season....Womp WoOmp WooOOmp

and In Denvers case you can blame the Coach for going into OT instead of giving it a shot.. with time on the clock... timeouts also one of the best veteran QBs....

Obviously, your oblivious to what really happened and tend to forget that ATL was spanking that @$$ in both games and did let both Seattle and the 49ers back into to the game. Yeah, Matt Ryan is famous for stink it up in the second half. We did it 7 times during the regular season and 2 more times in the post season. But thats just there identity and don't smash teams like they should!

However, we all saw the game and we all should know football. Apparently, during the 49ers game officials didn't know what a holding or pass interference call is and neglected to do there job on 4th and 4. I mean clearly all game long ATL went up and down that field with ease against a so called top notch defense. Nevertheless, think about this if Matt Ryan didn't fumble and throw that INT those would've been 2 more scores. Furthermore, both of those TO's was on the 49ers side of the field. So it wasn't like the 49ers had an answer for the passing game.

Anyways, back to this game. After seeing how 49ers pass defense sucks and Flacco has shown up against #1 seed Broncos and Manning. Plus against #2 seed Patriots and Brady, I don't think Flacco will have an issue against the #2 seed 49ers. The Cinderella story will finish with Ray Ray getting another ring before he retires.

Last sunday as i was cashing my winning tickets at SamsTown .... my honey poits at the board Ravens + 5.5 needless to say after watching both games I was especially inrpessed with the Ravens on both sides of the ball (total domination of the NE on there field WHAT??) jumped in with both feet. I hate Balt (PIT fan) this team is smoking hot Flacco playing like Joe montana and why not his O-line ahs him standing untouched and he's DEALING! SF was playing a realy mediocre ATL def and that will not be the case in the SB ans I was surprised that the NINERS couldnt generate preassure on Matty iceberg lettuce Ryan.

Bettors on SF should be thinking of there washed-up head case kicker. The SB is a different animal for inexperienced QB's I have to side with Flacco...vegas want even money on this game when it gets too 3 2.5 the public will be pouring $ on the trendy favorite.

SF is 5-0 in the SB, I didn't know Montana, Rice, Craig, Cross, were playing. Also is Walsh coaching the SB also? The Ravens played the then 2-0 in SB's NY Giants and smashed them. It will be fitting if Baltimore does the same to the 5-0 SB niners. What ATL did to SF going 17-0 and confusing the garbage out of Harbaugh and SF, believe me Baltimore can do it and Baltimore will not relinquish a lead as that.

Lol, Joe FLACCO aint no MATT RYAN. The weakness of the NINERS are their pass DEF as many teams have proven. Unfortunately, Flacco is just an average Joe that will not be able to exploit that. If Baltimore had a better receiving corps than the one they have now, then yes they can beat the Niners. Also , the Baltimore team that beat the NY Giants in the Super Bowl was a Defensive Force that no one can stop. Guess what Niners are ranked 3rd in yds/g allowed and Balt is ranked 17th. DEFENSE WINS SUPER BOWLS NOBODY HAS IT BETTER THAN THE NINERS !!!!

This years 49ers defense is not even as good as last years. Did they win it last year? No! Like I said, SF is privileged that the Giants were not in the playoffs, that ATL found a way to beat Seattle, and ATL found a way to cough up the game against SF. If the 49ers do not score touchdowns on both of there first 2 possessions of the game, IT WILL BE OVER!

However, we all saw the game and we all should know football. I mean clearly all game long ATL went up and down that field with ease against a so called top notch defense. Nevertheless, think about this if Matt Ryan didn't fumble and throw that INT those would've been 2 more scores. Furthermore, both of those TO's was on the 49ers side of the field. So it wasn't like the 49ers had an answer for the passing game.

The reality of it all is that when ATL was up 17-0 Harbaugh and his team were freaking confused. Even though they changed the game plan and started to run the heavy packages (Alex Smith) offense. ATL still had the game in hand ONLY if ryan never had those turnovers. But it is what is and Ryan choked, instead of leaving his foot on that SF defense like he did all game long.

Baltimore's Defense was able to contain RG3 as a runner but couldn't stop Alfred Morris. RG3 also had 244 yards passingS.F"s Defense has not faced a running back with Ray Rice's pass catching ability I can see Ed Reed getting a pick six.WHY pick a side? GRAB THE OVER

I am not a fan of BAL QB Flacco but he is the best QB in the playoffs the last 5 yrs. QB Flacco has the most wins of any QB the last 5 yrs. This yr Flacco has beat Broncos Manning and Pats Brady.

After the 2 playoff games I am big fan of the BAL D. They are very physical. They hurt people. BAL Pollard knocked out Brady Ridley Gronkowski 2X Welker etc.Then there is Ellerbee Suggs Ngata Lewis and Co. They put fear in the opponents. They hit so hard and keep hitting. By the 2nd half the opponents are scared and give up. They make bad passes. They do not run hard. They drop passes. BAL gets turnovers and gives the ball back to their O. The BAL D will keep BAL in the game.

I am not surprised Baltimore beat NE last week. I am also not surprised Baltimore beat Denver. Had them in both. Once I heard Manning was dipping his throwing hand in ice water I knew he was already done. He never threw the ball beyond 8 yards. And Baltimore just has NE's number. Some teams are like that in match ups.

I am not surprised SF is going to the SB. Had them and Seattle but was wrong about Seattle getting there, barely. And although Atlanta breaking the trend and finally winning scared the SH$T out of me going forward, the mere fact that SF was a favorite on the road was all the confidence I needed in picking them over Atlanta. CK proved he can run all over a team in the GB game. He also proved, really for the first time since becoming the starter, that he can sit and sit and sit in the pocket and pass the ball like a regular offense. And one more thing about CK, those 20+ yard passes always seem to be DEAD ON PERFECT. A great touch that kid has on deep balls.

Yes, Baltimore's defense is all on the field, no injuries, etc and this is why all of a sudden they are clicking. Yes, Baltimore's offense seems to be doing well since the 2nd game Caldwell took over calling plays. But let's remember 1 thing, they can be run on. Up the middle, pounding, punishing, clock managing run offense on Baltimore. They were susceptible to it all year and nothing has changed except the opponents capability to do it to them. SF can run the ball up the middle consistently and will run it up the middle.

Another thing Baltimore is susceptible to is TE play. The combination of Frank Gore and Vernon Davis, along with some slashing plays by RB LaMichael James and Colin Kaepernick, will be more than enough to keep Baltimore off balance defensively and allow SF to score fairly regularly. The other thing about SF is their secondary. Those long tosses by Flacco against Denver's joke of a secondary won't happen against SF. The only way, in my opinion, that Baltimore is going to beat SF is through turnovers and SF hasn't proven that they are going to do that.

I would love to get SF -3 but I don't think it will go that low. The casual betting public has bet down SF from 4 to 3' and come Saturday and Sunday the real gamblers and sharps will most likely move this line back up to 4 and maybe 4'.

I am not surprised Baltimore beat NE last week. I am also not surprised Baltimore beat Denver. Had them in both. Once I heard Manning was dipping his throwing hand in ice water I knew he was already done. He never threw the ball beyond 8 yards. And Baltimore just has NE's number. Some teams are like that in match ups.

I am not surprised SF is going to the SB. Had them and Seattle but was wrong about Seattle getting there, barely. And although Atlanta breaking the trend and finally winning scared the SH$T out of me going forward, the mere fact that SF was a favorite on the road was all the confidence I needed in picking them over Atlanta. CK proved he can run all over a team in the GB game. He also proved, really for the first time since becoming the starter, that he can sit and sit and sit in the pocket and pass the ball like a regular offense. And one more thing about CK, those 20+ yard passes always seem to be DEAD ON PERFECT. A great touch that kid has on deep balls.

Yes, Baltimore's defense is all on the field, no injuries, etc and this is why all of a sudden they are clicking. Yes, Baltimore's offense seems to be doing well since the 2nd game Caldwell took over calling plays. But let's remember 1 thing, they can be run on. Up the middle, pounding, punishing, clock managing run offense on Baltimore. They were susceptible to it all year and nothing has changed except the opponents capability to do it to them. SF can run the ball up the middle consistently and will run it up the middle.

Another thing Baltimore is susceptible to is TE play. The combination of Frank Gore and Vernon Davis, along with some slashing plays by RB LaMichael James and Colin Kaepernick, will be more than enough to keep Baltimore off balance defensively and allow SF to score fairly regularly. The other thing about SF is their secondary. Those long tosses by Flacco against Denver's joke of a secondary won't happen against SF. The only way, in my opinion, that Baltimore is going to beat SF is through turnovers and SF hasn't proven that they are going to do that.

I would love to get SF -3 but I don't think it will go that low. The casual betting public has bet down SF from 4 to 3' and come Saturday and Sunday the real gamblers and sharps will most likely move this line back up to 4 and maybe 4'.

My picks:

SF -3', Under 47'

GL all,

Tex aka Tony Bucca

Good light up. Kaepernick end with 127 passer rater last week against Farcon.

The other thing about SF is their secondary. Those long tosses by Flacco against Denver's joke of a secondary won't happen against SF. The only way, in my opinion, that Baltimore is going to beat SF is through turnovers and SF hasn't proven that they are going to do that.

I would love to get SF -3 but I don't think it will go that low. The casual betting public has bet down SF from 4 to 3' and come Saturday and Sunday the real gamblers and sharps will most likely move this line back up to 4 and maybe 4'.

My picks:

SF -3', Under 47'

GL all,

Tex aka Tony Bucca

Tex, i agree with you about the 9ers winnning the game. Their secondary unit is not all that great as it was proven by most of all their games especially by the game @ NE. I think Flacco will have some deep balls caught by Torrey Smith when they have the 1-on-1 match up against him. It will not be enough to win the game cause Kaepernick will have his way vs the old LB core of the Ravens. Lets just say Kap snaps the ball and decides to run after reading that all his guys are covered, he can run past Lewis and Suggs and Ellerbee and when Reed finally tackles him, he would have ran about 15 yds already. Correction, Kap would have stepped out of bounds before getting hit. When Flacco snaps the ball and his guys are covered, he wont be able to run against 9ers.

The secondary is good enough to shut down Green Bay and Atlanta in the 2nd half of those games. If, IF Flacco goes deep, it will only be until SF adjusts and fixes the deficiency. And if I remember correctly, they shut down Brady too. Those are all top QB's. GB had their deep threat playing and couldn't beat SF.

While your wisdom is certainly remarkable, I diagree with your analysis. I didn't think it was worth even responding to, until I saw this remark....

So here is where I disagree.....

First of all, I think it's safe to assume, (as if anything is safe to assume in the NFL) that this game is going to be a low scoring tight ball game with very few big plays, probably a few turnovers....

It's not going to be a shootout.... I don't think long bombs will come into play unless the 6'6 Flacco is staring over the Oline and sees a mismatch... otherwise it's going to be dink and dunk, YAC, and a combo of rice/pierce from the offense.... (note; SF is ranked number 1 vs. YAC)

The last meeting between these 2 was 16-6. It's going to be a defensive battle with both teams struggling to get into the endzone....

I think special teams will play a large role. Kick returns and field goal kicking....

Long Bombs? only calculated shots, at the end of first half, or in desperation mode...

Not a great way to cap this game..... Ravens are by no means an offensive juggernaut....

You also forgot to mention while minimizing the beating of Manning/Broncos at home, that the all-world qb really only put up 21 points.... if not for 2 returns for touchdowns, it may not even been a game!!!!!

GL TO ALL!

I always respect your analysis, but I don’t think we can assume this will be a low scoring affair.I think CK and that high octane offense gets it going early and often causing Flacco and his OC to forget about Rice.I think this will be a dual between to QB’s with rifles and San Francisco will get two to three more stops than the Ravens…

I always respect your analysis, but I don’t think we can assume this will be a low scoring affair.I think CK and that high octane offense gets it going early and often causing Flacco and his OC to forget about Rice.I think this will be a dual between to QB’s with rifles and San Francisco will get two to three more stops than the Ravens…

Thanks for the kind words

Ya i kinda think it will start out slow like the first matchup and then potentially open up "2nd half.... Last years game was low scoring and with these 2 great defenses and typical low scoring history (despite exploding lately) i think it will be the battle of the defenses....

Ravens are used to playing an elite defensive unit twice/ year in PITT.... Usually those games are low scoring

But it is in the superdome so the could explode

But i think not bc they are both grind it out teams unless the game warrants a quick score....

Ya i kinda think it will start out slow like the first matchup and then potentially open up "2nd half.... Last years game was low scoring and with these 2 great defenses and typical low scoring history (despite exploding lately) i think it will be the battle of the defenses....

Ravens are used to playing an elite defensive unit twice/ year in PITT.... Usually those games are low scoring

But it is in the superdome so the could explode

But i think not bc they are both grind it out teams unless the game warrants a quick score....

GL To ALL!

You and others keep bringing up last year…You base your play off what happen last year between two completely different squads, you will be better served taking that cash and buy some shares of Apple while it has been beat all to hxll…9’ers defense is better than last year AND that offense with CK versus Alex Smith under center is a whole different “animule” my friend…

I am not surprised Baltimore beat NE last week. I am also not surprised Baltimore beat Denver. Had them in both. Once I heard Manning was dipping his throwing hand in ice water I knew he was already done. He never threw the ball beyond 8 yards. And Baltimore just has NE's number. Some teams are like that in match ups.

I am not surprised SF is going to the SB. Had them and Seattle but was wrong about Seattle getting there, barely. And although Atlanta breaking the trend and finally winning scared the SH$T out of me going forward, the mere fact that SF was a favorite on the road was all the confidence I needed in picking them over Atlanta. CK proved he can run all over a team in the GB game. He also proved, really for the first time since becoming the starter, that he can sit and sit and sit in the pocket and pass the ball like a regular offense. And one more thing about CK, those 20+ yard passes always seem to be DEAD ON PERFECT. A great touch that kid has on deep balls.

Yes, Baltimore's defense is all on the field, no injuries, etc and this is why all of a sudden they are clicking. Yes, Baltimore's offense seems to be doing well since the 2nd game Caldwell took over calling plays. But let's remember 1 thing, they can be run on. Up the middle, pounding, punishing, clock managing run offense on Baltimore. They were susceptible to it all year and nothing has changed except the opponents capability to do it to them. SF can run the ball up the middle consistently and will run it up the middle.

Another thing Baltimore is susceptible to is TE play. The combination of Frank Gore and Vernon Davis, along with some slashing plays by RB LaMichael James and Colin Kaepernick, will be more than enough to keep Baltimore off balance defensively and allow SF to score fairly regularly. The other thing about SF is their secondary. Those long tosses by Flacco against Denver's joke of a secondary won't happen against SF. The only way, in my opinion, that Baltimore is going to beat SF is through turnovers and SF hasn't proven that they are going to do that.

I would love to get SF -3 but I don't think it will go that low. The casual betting public has bet down SF from 4 to 3' and come Saturday and Sunday the real gamblers and sharps will most likely move this line back up to 4 and maybe 4'.

people talking about baltimore winning on PATS turf? well the niners can win on anyones turf... niners did rape the pats at NE 41-34.

below are the cliff notes.

San Francisco overcame a 17-point deficit, the largest comeback ever
in an NFC championship game, to earn their sixth Super Bowl appearance
in franchise history. It was their first road playoff win in 24 years. Ironically, the previous biggest comeback in NFC championship history was the Falcons overcoming a 13 point deficit in the 1998 NFC title game.

Obviously, your oblivious to what really happened and tend to forget that ATL was spanking that @$$ in both games and did let both Seattle and the 49ers back into to the game. Yeah, Matt Ryan is famous for stink it up in the second half. We did it 7 times during the regular season and 2 more times in the post season. But thats just there identity and don't smash teams like they should!

However, we all saw the game and we all should know football. Apparently, during the 49ers game officials didn't know what a holding or pass interference call is and neglected to do there job on 4th and 4. I mean clearly all game long ATL went up and down that field with ease against a so called top notch defense. Nevertheless, think about this if Matt Ryan didn't fumble and throw that INT those would've been 2 more scores. Furthermore, both of those TO's was on the 49ers side of the field. So it wasn't like the 49ers had an answer for the passing game.

Anyways, back to this game. After seeing how 49ers pass defense sucks and Flacco has shown up against #1 seed Broncos and Manning. Plus against #2 seed Patriots and Brady, I don't think Flacco will have an issue against the #2 seed 49ers. The Cinderella story will finish with Ray Ray getting another ring before he retires.

waaaah waaaaaaah EXCUSES EXCUSES! Clean play at the end of the game. U make like niners played flawless ball. Just stop being a crybaby. I love the fact ur on baltimore out of spite.

Im locked in Niners -3.5

Gonna take them 1h too just waiting for the line. My reasons r posted in the nfl forum

I actually like SF but their slow start in the 2 playoff games bothers me. I do not like it that SF fell behind early in the 2 previous games. That could come back to haunt them. They might not be able to come back this game. Playing from behind is very dangerous for SF. SF needs to come out fast and play in front or they could lose this SB. Playing from behind is an indication that SF game plan is wrong. Coming back is an indication that SF is making the right adjustments at halftime. SF needs to get the game plan right in the 1st half or they could lose. Just saying.

QUOTEThis is one of the best posts on this board so far... and I agree 100%. I actually predict the line will move back up to -4, -4.5 come gameday. Either way, the Niners lineplay is superior to any of the defenses Flacco has faced. The Niners D-Line will force Flacco ino his 1st & 2nd turn overs of the post season... The Niners will win by at least 4 because their offense with Rookie QB is plenty good..and even faster on TURF. Flacco wont have as much time to throw those deep bombs and no way Ngata will be quick enough to take down Kaepernick on the turf. Vernon Davis has a BIG day as Balt is susceptible to good tight ends.

I like the Niners 28-21

Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

i think this is probably the angle most people are using in this game, moreso than any other single angle (other than maybe the Ray Lewis destiny factor, which i don't put much stock into)...

problem is the word newly found... are we really prepared to believe this Ravens team is suddenly an offensive juggernaut?

their win against the Broncos was probably the most undeserving win any team has ever been granted in the playoffs... it is very easy to look at that game and take 28 Ravens points off the board...

1) 60 yard bomb for Baltimore's first score came immediately after a PI penalty on 3rd and 13, in which the ball landed behind the player's bench, about 15 yards out of bounds... Superman would have had to make a heroic effort to catch that ball OUT OF BOUNDS... let alone in bounds... nonexistent PI penalty directly leads to 7 points

2) 3 plays later, defender mugs the Decker (i believe) clearly holding both arms down before the ball arrives... ball gets knocked into the air and results in a pick 6... the refs who missed that call should NEVER be allowed to officiate a playoff game again... that was a TERRIBLE missed call, and it DRAMATICALLY effected the outcome of the football game... dispute this at the risk of labelling yourself either extremely biased, or extremely stupid!... 7 more points!

3) desparate lob at the end of the first half in which Champ Bailey (also victim of the first bomb) plays some of the worst defense i've ever seen (but wait... the worst is yet to come)... 7 more points! it was only about a 35 yard pass, so not the most improbable play of all time (stay tuned)...

4) the most improbably play of all time!!! needing 7 points just to get into OT, the Ravens pull off the miracle of all miracles, thanks to what is without question the single-worst defensive meltdown in the history of the NFL playoffs...

moral of the story: are people really RELYING on the fact that the plethora of defensive meltdowns that have taken place during these 3 games, in which the Ravens have exploded in yardage and points, compared to how they have performed historically (including this entire season)... are going to be repeated by the 49ers, who have 2 weeks to look at all of that game film... ?

long bombs are not exactly a very complicated play to gameplan for, and if a team with a good coach and a defense that puts pressure on the QB, puts together a gameplan that is designed to TAKE ADVANTAGE of the fact that they know you are going to be RELYING on that to win... that can get ugly in a real hurry!

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