POOL 1 IS ALL PROS, AND ALL ADVANCED MEN (PAR 69)POOL 2 IS ALL INTERMEDIATE MEN (PAR 67)POOL 3 IS RECREATIONAL MEN AND WOMEN (PAR 62)

SOME HOLES WILL HAVE POOLS 1&2 TOGETHER, AND SOME HOLES WILL HAVE POOLS 2&3 TOGETHER - PLEASE BE AWARE OF WHAT POOL PLAYS WHICH TEE!

Hole 1 485 / 311 ft Par 3 / 3Pool 1 tees from top of hill to a basket at the bottom of the hillPools 2&3 tees from flags on hill to a basket at the bottom of the hillFence is NOT OB Inside/ on top of any building is OBTo next tee, all Pools turn left. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags 100 ft ahead

Hole 2 416 / 311 ft Par 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket just on the other side of the tree line.Pools 2&3 tee from flags 100 ft ahead to a basket just on the other side of the tree line.To next tee Pool 1 walks straight ahead, Pools 2&3 turn right and follow tree line. Pool 2 tees from flags at the start of the clearing, Pool 3 turns right to flags near the gap in the tree line

Hole 3 970 / 670 / 525 ft Par 5 / 5 / 5Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket that is at the end of a “Z” fairway.Pool 2 tees from flags in clearing, Pool 3 tees from flags near gap in tree lineFence on the left is NOT OB – DO NOT touch wires hanging over the fairwayTo next tee Pool 1 turns left and proceeds thru the trees to tee pad. Pools 2&3 walk straight ahead thru tree line and turn left to flags near tree.

Hole 4 605 / 355 ft Par 4 / 4Dogleg right turn for Pool 1, straight ahead shot for Pools 2&3Fence on left and behind basket is NOT O.B. DO NOT touch wires hanging over the fairway.To next tee Pool 1 turns right to the tee pad, Pools 2&3 go thru fence to flags in field

Hole 5 510 / 400 / 300 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from tee pad to basket near the building. Pools 2&3 tee from flags in field NONE of the fences are OB – inside or on top of building IS OB.To next tee, all Pools go around fence and turn left in open field. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pool 2 tees from edge of clearing, Pool 3 tees from flags near fence line.

Hole 7 290 / 250 ft Par 3 / 3Pools 1&2 tee from pad. Pool 3 tees from flags 40 ft ahead to a basket straight across the creek.Water in creek is casual water – PLEASE USE BRIDGE to cross creek - one at a time.To next tee, all Pools turn left into open field.

Hole 8 333 / 270 ft Par 3 / 3Pool 1&2 tee from pad, Pool 3 tees from flags near opening in trees to a basket across the creek.Water in creek is casual water – PLEASE USE BRIDGE to cross creek - one at a time.To next tee Pool 1 tees from pad inside trees, Pools 2&3 exit trees, turn towards the lake to flags.

Hole 9 700 / 500 ft Par 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags to a basket near the lake under the large tree.Lake IS OB – Fence to the left of the basket is NOT OBTo next tee, all pools cross dirt road. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pool 2 tees from flags near gap ahead and to the right, Pool 3 tees from flags near the opening in trees.

Hole 10 500 / 325 / 250 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3There are several different paths to the basket. Road is NOT OB – DO NOT touch hanging wires in the fairway.To next tee, all Pools turn right towards fence line. Pool 1 turns left into the woods, pools 2&3 tee from flags in the field.

Hole 11 689 / 508 / 359 ft Par 4 / 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket at the other side of the fieldPool 2 tees from flags near trees, Pool 3 tees from flags near opening in fieldFence on left side of fairway is OB – (You may cross fence to retrieve your disc)To next tee turn right to road, turn LEFT on road and follow it uphill to the tee for Hole 12

Hole 13 595 / 520 / 350 ft Par 4 / 4 / 3Pool 1 tees from pad to a basket straight ahead thru the tunnel of trees.Pool 2&3 tee from flags in the field to a basket straight ahead thru the tunnel of trees.Fence / String line on left side of fairway 2/3 down and beyond the basket is OB To next tee, all pools go straight ahead. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 turn right, go thru woods.Pool 2 turns right at the opening to flags near tree line, Pool 3 tees off from flags in the field to the left.

Hole 14 715 / 590 / 300 ft Par 4 / 4/ 3Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 continue into field. Pool 2 tees from flags near tree line, Pool 3 tees from flags on left. All pools tee to a basket straight ahead at the bottom of the hill near the lake. Lake IS OB – crossing any fence is NOT OBTo next tee, all pools turn back and follow path on right to Hole 15, Pool 1 plays from tee, Pools 2&3 tee from flags in the fairway.

Hole 15 470 / 310 ft Par 4 / 4Pools 1&2 tee from pad to a basket ahead across the winding creek with the creek behind the basket.Pool 3 tees from flags ahead to a basket ahead across the winding creek with the creek behind the basket.Completely surrounded by water in the creek IS OBTo next tee, all pools follow the path back up the hill to Hole 16 tees

Hole 16 290 / 250 ft Par 3 / 3Pools 1&2 tee from pad to a basket ahead and slightly to the right.Pool 3 tees from flags to a basket ahead and slightly to the right.Completely surrounded by water in the creek on the right IS OBTo next tee, all Pools walk straight ahead. Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 walk down path thru woods into the open field. Pool 2 tees from flags near the tree line, and Pool 3 tees from flags in the field.

Hole 17 580 / 430 / 360 ft Par 4 / 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad inside tree line to a basket that is a slight dogleg to the left.Pool 2 tees from flags in the opening near the tree line, Pool 3 tees from flags in the field.Beyond any fence is NOT OB. To next tee, all pools turn right and go thru gate to Hole 18 tees in the open field.

Hole 18 545 / 390 ft Par 4 / 4Pool 1 tees from pad, Pools 2&3 tee from flags 155 ft ahead and to the left.Hole is a dogleg right with the basket near the parking area.BEYOND FENCE on left is OB – the fences on the right & near the basket are NOT OB.To next tee, all Pools cross parking area.Pool 1 turns left up the hill, Pools 2&3 tee from flags in the field straight ahead.

There are two Holiday Inn's right on the edge of downtown (walking distance to restaurants and "nightlife") - the Holiday Inn Express is probably reasonably priced - or there is a brand new Hilton Garden Inn on the same block as my apartment in the middle of downtown that is probably not so reasonably priced... also a Best Western Colonial Inn and a Travelodge about 8 blocks down off of Milledge Ave. that I have had family stay at that might be cheaper since it is farther away.Anything else in Athens that is outside of the downtown radius of about 10 blocks though... I can say is likely to be reasonably sketchy and scare your wife and kids. Do a googlemaps search for hotels, Athens, GA and you can get the numbers for those ^^ ... hope that helps somebody!

The following 19 players are not current with the PDGA for 2009, and have until 2/9/09 to renew with the PDGA or pay an extra $10 at the CRUCIBLE on the 14th - NO EXCEPTIONS as I have to pay the PDGA $10 for every NON current player at the Event. Almost half are pros. and half of that half are Georgia's team members.

If you know any of these players who do not frequent the message board, please pass along this info.Thanks in advance for your consideration.

I wish to give a public HUGE thanks to Doug Porter and Flying Eye for the use of the Baskets and Pads for the GSSS Event, as well as all the local Athenites who are helping me to prep the course so that it is ready for everyone in 10 Days and 8 hours from now.

Please show your respect to the course and the Athens-Clarke County Leisure Services Department by NOT being on the course when the gate is closed.

Sorrells Pit BBQ will again be doing the lunch for the players at the CRUCIBLE to purchase. I spoke with the head guy earlier today and they are looking forward to providing food and drinks for the disc golfers again!

They are the same ones that provided the EXCELLENT BBQ for the Inaugural GSSS at the CRUCIBLE in 2008 as well as the last few Flying Eye tournaments.

They will be set-up and have the food hot and ready when we come off the course after the first round, so we'll be able to get the second round started with enough time to finish in the daylight!

They will also have veggie dogs and burgers available as well as drinks, so that no one has to hunt for lunch and worry about missing the start of the second round.

I'll be off to set up the course tomorrow and POSSIBLY on Friday the 13th some local Athenite will be there around Noon to open the gate for anyone who wishes to practice or play doubles. THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE! The CRUCIBLE is a TEMPORARY COURSE and not open to the public. The Sandy Creek Course is public and available to play if you are in town early.

THE CRUCIBLE COURSE WILL NOT BE OPEN TO ANYONE FOR ANY PLAY BEFORE FRIDAY THE 13TH AT NOON AT THE EARLIEST.

Anyone disobeying this strict order from the park will be subject to trespassing and could be arrested.

Proposed payouts with number of players per division staying as they are now.Remember that PROS will get NO players packages and have added cash to the purse instead, while AMS will have players packages AND CTP's in addition to their payout at each Event. Also keep in mind that I'll be paying at least 50% of the field in each division, as well as having surprise giveaways at all Events.Hopefully if players BUY GSSS Merchandise, we can keep these high percentage payouts going for EVERYONE.With larger cash sponsorships MUCH harder to come by in this economy, I'm hopeful that anyone who can afford to will purchase any of the GSSS Merchandise that will be available at Tournament Central.

Thanks to RYAN ADAMS who came out and helped set up baskets, mats, and wooden tee signs.

All of the fairways are cleaned and have ALOT of dead trees and branches moved out of the way.Now Woody will only have to lift his cart over 1 log (hole13 if he goes down the fairway) on the entire course. Every other log crossing the fairway is gone. The GREEN on 15 has also been cleaned of leaves to make it more fair as the leaves can be quite skippy and a good shot should not be punished 25 feet from the creek. I also spent over and hour cleaning the debris that was blocking the creek behind 15 and where is crosses the fairway by the basket to help with water flow to keep the creek clear and LOW to make it easier to retrieve errant shots, as the leaves and branches blocking the water kept the creek muddy and deep.The only issues i can forsee are going to be on 6/7/8/15 and 16, where you'll need to keep a REAL GOOD EYE on EVERY SHOT in the woods as the leaves are pretty thick.

Please also remember the CHECK-IN and Meeting times are EARLY due to daylight issues(there are NO LIGHTS at the park). Anyone NOT checked in by 8:15 will NOT play! Please give yourselves time to make it to the course Saturday morning.Saturday check-in - THERE IS NO WAIT LIST! 7:30-8:15AM Players Meeting 8:20 AM 1st round tee-off 8:50 AM

Info on the possibility of Friday the 13th Doubles will be posted as soon as possible.

I'm looking forward to seeing everyone Saturday the 14th - EARLY in the morning.

I got off work Friday so I will be a local Athenite available to open the gates and/or run doubles (although anyone else is welcome to that will be there or coming in from ATL)So I guess just whoever cares can decide what time?

I wish to give a public HUGE thanks to Doug Porter and Flying Eye for the use of the Baskets and Pads for the GSSS Event, as well as all the local Athenites who are helping me to prep the course so that it is ready for everyone in 10 Days and 8 hours from now.

Please show your respect to the course and the Athens-Clarke County Leisure Services Department by NOT being on the course when the gate is closed.

Info about POSSIBLE Friday the 13th doubles will be posted here.

More info as it becomes available.

I also gave Ryan gifts for all of you that helped out, as well as thanking Jon personally at "theP" on Sunday(didn't know he would be there), as I ALWAYS acknowledge and appreciate my local helpers! See all of you Saturday.

Is there any chance that we can check in early on Friday? Just trying to get that extra 20 minutes of sleep on Saturday morning. Thanks for the tournament and any information.

With who?

I'm not going to be getting there until Friday evening, so check-in can't happen until Saturday morning. SorryYou can always just show up early Saturday morning and sleep in the car until the players meeting.

The only Event I can do Friday check-in at is Central as I am only 1/2 hour away from work to there. Everywhere else I am at least 1&1/2 hours away, which negates leaving work at 5pm and getting to any courses to do Friday check-ins.

SheDawg wrote:I got off work Friday so I will be a local Athenite available to open the gates and/or run doubles (although anyone else is welcome to that will be there or coming in from ATL)So I guess just whoever cares can decide what time?

I haven't seen or heard any suggestions or responses to this, is anyone going to be up there Friday afternoon? I am planning on being there about 3pm to go through the course if it is open then?

I will be there at 1 oclock - doubles will begin at 3 oclock unless there are any major objections posted here. So if you want to see the course before doubles, I will be opening the gates at 1. If anyone else wants to run doubles please speak up here, otherwise I will just be there to do it. Yay crucible!

I had made a nice post about Rachel being gracious enough to run doubles, but got sidetracked with phone calls at work and when I wen to post, I had been logged off.

To add to Rachel's post -

PLEASE REMEMBER YOU MUST PAY $2 TO PLAY THE CRUCIBLE COURSE WHICH GOES TO SANDY CREEK PARK. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE RACHEL ASK YOU TO LEAVE.

Also please remember this is a temp course, so please RESPECT the park department and keep it clean. DO NOT leave any trash on the course - please bring it up to the shack where there are trash bags located.

The following 10 players are not current with the PDGA for 2009, and will have to pay an extra $10 at the CRUCIBLE on the 14th - NO EXCEPTIONS - as I have to pay the PDGA $10 for every NON current player at the Event. Over half are pros.

If you know any of these players who do not frequent the message board, please pass along this info.Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Ok so the wife says to me about 2 months ago that she and her mom have a trip planned to Raleigh with the kids and it happens to fall on Valentines weekend. I tell her "no problem" then go in search of a tournament. I see the first of the GSSS falls on Valentine's day but dad gummit it is already full and there is NO WAITLIST. I ask a few people about this and what happens to spots if people don't show and I am told they go empty. So as I sit here in the mist on Saturday morning alone I get a little pissed off when I see Woody in the tournament and I know he didn't sign up in time. How exactly does this work. Did Woody build you something Kieth? a bird house or finely sanded birdseye maple club for killing prey....? Sounds to me like some under the table loving going on. What if the person who's spot Woody got shows up on the day of the tourny? What do I need to do to get into some of this bogus action? Mr.disc...your response is not required here

"Though no one can go back in time and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending."

just wanted to say the course was really awesome had a great time meet a lot of nice guys and ladies. Keith great tounament very smooth and we finished playing before dark good time looking forward to mcCurry see you all there. cogrates to mcCoy awesome job man getting the new course record. to keith thank you to you and your family you guys rock.congrate to all the winners great job.I just wished I had shot better my first round because I bombed but came back with a pretty good 2nd round.

i could be wrong, but I don't think the round ratings are correct. There are several Int. and Rec. players that had 1000 rated rounds. I shot a 65 and it's not rated over 1000. I looked at the last several tourneys and that round should be atleast 1006. Just sayin.

i could be wrong, but I don't think the round ratings are correct. There are several Int. and Rec. players that had 1000 rated rounds. I shot a 65 and it's not rated over 1000. I looked at the last several tourneys and that round should be atleast 1006. Just sayin.

i could be wrong, but I don't think the round ratings are correct. There are several Int. and Rec. players that had 1000 rated rounds. I shot a 65 and it's not rated over 1000. I looked at the last several tourneys and that round should be atleast 1006. Just sayin.

What you talkin' about Willis?

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OK boys and girls - Time for the GSSS Chronicles from Valentine's Day Event #1 at the CRUCIBLE.

Day starts out in with a light rain at 6:30AM when I arrive at the course, but according to the Weather Channel and the radar it is supposed to stop before 9AM.People start checking in at 7:30 but by 8:05 only about 25 of the 72 have checked-in.At 8:15 all but 1 person have checked in and for the first time at any GSSS Event - no one is standing around "Waiting to see if some one doesn't show up".At 8:25 I start the players meeting in a misty drizzle, not one of the new GSSS players knows Lorelei's birthday number or PDGA # - missing out on a 50 dollar prize package - also someone asks if there are baggies for the scorecards, and I inform him that it won't be raining so we don't need baggies. We start Round 1 at 9AM where Kevin McCoy shoots a course record 57 nailing almost every putt from 60ft and in missing only 3, Brett Rousseau aces Hole 12 with a driver taking the ACE/EAGLE fund of 38 dollars, and Matlack again (did it also at Flying Eye) eagles hole 3, but unfortunately is NOT in the ACE/EAGLE fund.

We have a great lunch again served up by Sorrells BBQ and Brett and I discover there are a few Advanced players that failed math.

We start the second players meeting by reminding everyone to double and triple check their scores, to not be penalized, BUT...to be continued later....as well as asking everyone to please bring in the GSSS TSigns on their last hole and to make sure to stick around for the 50/50 drawing if they bought tickets or if they were going to be coming in the top half of thier division to be winning cash or merch.The sun shines through for most of the 2nd round but keeping with the usual for most GSSS Events still almost ZERO wind. We finish the round at 5:30 and continuing the trend from the first round discover that Advanced players just hated math class in school, as a couple more errors were made and cost 1 person some merch dollars. After Brett works some ties money splitting magic we do the CTP Giveaways, the Basket Raffle/EDGE 50/50 drawing with 5 tickets drawn, with the 50/50 wuinner being Mike Trello picking up 85 bucks! Everyone gets paid and leaves happily - and after Brett and Wes help with the teardown we drive away locking the gate behind us to head home.

Then Valentine's Day takes that dramatic turn that all the guys who played the Event had wished would happen to me - as hitting a pothole on Nowhere road 1 mile from the course the right side tires (yes both tires) are blown out. Having only 1 spare tire, things don't look to good. I drive on the flat tires to the curve in the road where there is a light and enough pavement to be out of the road completely. After thinking we are going to get the car towed to Walmart and stay overnight in Athens to get the tires changed, I unload the back of the van to get the jack out to change the front tire which has now come almost completely off the rim so we can try and at least get to Daneilsville road as we have no cell service on most of Nowhere road for some reason. After getting the spare on the front I'm now starting to load the van back up as a guy and a preacher from Dothan, Alabama pull up and offer assistance. It happens that the guy owns an auto repair paint and body shop and he has tires from wrecked cars at the shop - He offers to drive all of us to the shop, where he changes the tire and drives us back to the van where we changed the back tire. The preacher that was with him was in Athens to give a sermon on Sunday and he was getting his car's water pump changed by the mechainc who was driving him to get the water pump from the parts store when they came across us. I ask him what do I owe him and he says nothing, he was HAPPY to help. At this point I'm hearing banjo music, so I peel out of the parking lot, spraying him, his car, and the preacher with gravel from the raod widening project. (I made that part of the story up )I practically and literally force him to take 50 bucks for his troubles and thank him profusely for his efforts and time to help us out, as I was envisioning the worst - worst case scenario at 7:45PM when the tires blew out.

Finally to end this sililoqy we arrive home safe and sound at 11:30 PM and I got both tires replaced today (Sunday) at Walmart in Alpharetta for 42 bucks (1 free & 1 1/2 price due to wear).

A HUGE THANKS TO DAWN AND LORELEI for their help, BRETT PORTER for his scoring help, all the ATHENS people for their course setup and contact help, and last but not least - all the players who came out and played the Event as it is because of you all why I do what I do in the first place.

Lastly, just to be safe from now on I'm moving all the remaining GSSS Events to Sequoyah which is only 3 &1/2 miles from my house and I can walk home if need be.

Apparently I failed at math twice along with every one in my group. With a score that high I am not surprised. John gayer left his brand new stool next to Doug's car on Sunday before doubles, Someone picked it up. If it was you please return it. Even though I should probably never play disc golf again I had a great time and will see you soon for another demonstration of how not to play.

D-Wiz wrote:Thanks for a great Tournament Keith! Will the round ratings for intermediate be determined later after the PDGA processes them?

It looks like there wasn't enough propagators that had ratings, so they might not be.

I'll ask Chuck Kennedy if they can be done.

Keith

When I talked to Chuck before the JPMIB, I was informed that 5 rounds with propagators with the same layout would get an official rating. The Intermediates have 4 x 2 rounds.

I was also told by phone that the 8 propagator limit was only for unofficial not official results therefore any round that meets the above requirement will receive official ratings on March 17th.

Chuck34 You need at least 5 members with ratings over 799 whose rating is based on at least 8 rounds (called propagators). You can get away with just 3 if the same course layout is played at least twice (2x3>5).

Knowing that some of the Intermediate players may be curious about their round rankings, I asked Keith if I could post the numbers for you. This is the best I can do without a hole by hole breakdown but I think it will be close.

Thanks, by far my best yet! (if those numbers are right...) Much better than my 900.0 average one week earlier at the Perkerson IB, which was a terribly crappy Advanced Day. I can't seem to figure it out...

atl scott wrote:Thanks, by far my best yet! (if those numbers are right...) Much better than my 900.0 average one week earlier at the Perkerson IB, which was a terribly crappy Advanced Day. I can't seem to figure it out...

You won by 21 strokes - so I would guess the numbers are pretty accurate as with that SSA each stroke is worth about 8-9 ratings points and your 9 stroke difference in the second round over Steven trello was by 77 ratings points.

I guess my question was not about the difference in the ratings of the rounds but where the SSA actually came from and how accurate it is. Were the middle tees really only 7.5 strokes easier than the longs (SSA around 64.5)? My guess is that the SSA is a little lower and my ratings lower but I do admit I have only a fuzzy understanding of how the ratings are formed for divisions like this.

atl scott wrote:I guess my question was not about the difference in the ratings of the rounds but where the SSA actually came from and how accurate it is. Were the middle tees really only 7.5 strokes easier than the longs (SSA around 64.5)? My guess is that the SSA is a little lower and my ratings lower but I do admit I have only a fuzzy understanding of how the ratings are formed for divisions like this.

It's possible as the Mid tees were approximately 2400 feet shorter in distance as well as easier lines with less OB strokes coming into play, so it's not too far fetched.

Remember also you are an IMPROVING 927 Rated player, who will be over 935 and into the advanced range when the next ratings come out, so that along with good play would equal the results seen on Saturday.

atl scott wrote:Thanks, by far my best yet! (if those numbers are right...) Much better than my 900.0 average one week earlier at the Perkerson IB, which was a terribly crappy Advanced Day. I can't seem to figure it out...

Actually I was calling you a Bagger

Speakin' the vernacular of the peasantry. Poor little kid, I hope she gets home all right....Professor Marvel

Moose wrote:Ok so the wife says to me about 2 months ago that she and her mom have a trip planned to Raleigh with the kids and it happens to fall on Valentines weekend. I tell her "no problem" then go in search of a tournament. I see the first of the GSSS falls on Valentine's day but dad gummit it is already full and there is NO WAITLIST. I ask a few people about this and what happens to spots if people don't show and I am told they go empty. So as I sit here in the mist on Saturday morning alone I get a little pissed off when I see Woody in the tournament and I know he didn't sign up in time. How exactly does this work. Did Woody build you something Kieth? a bird house or finely sanded birdseye maple club for killing prey....? Sounds to me like some under the table loving going on. What if the person who's spot Woody got shows up on the day of the tourny? What do I need to do to get into some of this bogus action? Mr.disc...your response is not required here

Total numbers form the TD Report sent to the PDGA - Sorry that the numbers couldn't be higher, but in this economy, it is tougher to get sponsorships than it was in the past.Hopefully I can get some more individual Tsign sponsorships and sell some more merchandise for Events 2-6 to help with making the payouts nicer.

Brian Lang wrote:Knowing that some of the Intermediate players may be curious about their round rankings, I asked Keith if I could post the numbers for you. This is the best I can do without a hole by hole breakdown but I think it will be close.