When you're sitting in the cockpit you can see right through the plane...down to the ground...up to the sky, round and round and round, or..over and over and over sky/ground/sky/ground/sky....you get the idea.

Easier to figure your position than just the pressure in your head. LOL!!!

The old saying goes you can tell the men from the boys by the cost of their toys. Here's mine; 5 years old, and I've had my license since '85. I live on the airpark in Independence and I'll be going to Corvallis tomorrow to get some help setting up my Blade 400. It's a small world eh?

My cousin is a design engineer who had a lot to do with Euro Disney. He was explaining the design parameters behind the more extreme rides. He called it "The Most Survivable Accident". The engineers calculate what the human body could stand if you were in a horrendous accident, i.e., the spins, the rolls, the negative G's, etc, and were totally strapped in so there was no chance of secondary collision (your body vs some part of the hardware). They see what the normal body limits are and then take it down a couple notches to allow for the undiagnosed medical condition.

I always thought I was too old for this (40) but them I started seeing how old some redbull racers are . Wagstaffs no spring chicken either . I think a guy in Roseville,Ca. has a Pitts s2b he gives rides in . Have you tried one of those G suits out yet ?

Clint McHenry won the Unlimited category in the 1989 National Aerobatic Championship -and was in his mid 60's at the time. Never give up on your dreams.

I'm in my early 40's and got my start in aviation in my single-digit years by building FF and RC models. Truly was a great way to begin learning how to fly... and I continue to learn from the hobby.

I hope to enjoy RC for a lifetime -it's one of my 'happy places' to go when the rest of the world is caving in...

The RV-4 in my avitar is mine. Won my class in the Airventure Cup cross-country air race in 2003. Great fun! Nothing like the Redbull races though... much more laid-back... that is if you call throwing all the levers forward for 1000 miles laid-back. There are still lots of fun things to do with airplanes if aerobatics don't agree with you.

I just learned that the Blue Angels DO NOT wear g-suits...interferes w/ control precision. How's that for the right stuff eh?

I really don't think they come close to the G's these pilots get doing hardcore aerobatics in Extra's and Edge's . The B.A.'s take 3-5 miles to make a turn . I have watched the F-22 raptor also and don't think that pilot is getting many G's . Even though it is turning tight its going slow flying high alpha . If that motor in the Raptor ever quit anywhere in it's performance that things going down .

A friend at work was in the navy on a carrier . He said he saw a pilot do a really cool maneuver and later asked him what it felt like . The pilot said " I don't know , what did it look like , I was unconscous through part of it " .

I myself have never flown an airplane before (i have, but only on the sim). I'm hoping to start sometime eventually. I was really looking for a 8-12 person airplane, and one that has everything closed in allowing everyone to not hear all the noise. Are there any planes that you can recommend? What kind of airplane is reliable and at the same time not to expensive?

I think perhaps he means the specific graphics/paint on the red Extra 300. I've seen this bird up close and thought the same thing. I think it needs more airshow exposure, so it becomes recognizable like Russian Thunder.

I myself have never flown an airplane before (i have, but only on the sim). I'm hoping to start sometime eventually. I was really looking for a 8-12 person airplane, and one that has everything closed in allowing everyone to not hear all the noise. Are there any planes that you can recommend? What kind of airplane is reliable and at the same time not to expensive?

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All private planes are pricey for the most part. My Father owns a Cessna 210 (which only hold 6) and cheapest I have seen a decent one is 40K however there is the insurance and maintenance. Once a year they have to tear the whole thing apart to check for stress cracks that's not cheap. Plus you have to get your pilot's license gotta pay for that too.

If you want to seat 8-12 they have a Grand Caravan you can find them used for only around $1,000,000

Some people buy shares in a plane (like a vacation condo) and then take turns taking it out.

All private planes are pricey for the most part. My Father owns a Cessna 210 (which only hold 6) and cheapest I have seen a decent one is 40K however there is the insurance and maintenance. Once a year they have to tear the whole thing apart to check for stress cracks that's not cheap. Plus you have to get your pilot's license gotta pay for that too.

If you want to seat 8-12 they have a Grand Caravan you can find them used for only around $1,000,000

Some people buy shares in a plane (like a vacation condo) and then take turns taking it out.

The old saying goes you can tell the men from the boys by the cost of their toys. Here's mine; 5 years old, and I've had my license since '85. I live on the airpark in Independence and I'll be going to Corvallis tomorrow to get some help setting up my Blade 400. It's a small world eh?

nice Harmon Rocket- A good friend of mine has one and loves it- his is the one they modeled the RC Harmon Rocket from.
I hope to be getting back into something with wings one day- I'm on the waiting list for an Icon A5.