BL's warlocks played demo on nearly every single fight so far and Method's warlocks have gone demo for a few fights beyond spoils and Thok (shaman, maybe immerseus?). I imagine thats what they are talking about.

Yeah method's had a bit of a mix on every fight between demo and aff. If I recall a good chunk of the fights were either 2 / 2 or 3 aff 1 demo.

I personally don't pay attention attention to BL so they got me there.

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If you didn't have the trinkets for affi, there was really no point of playing it versus demo.

The trinkets for demo are also extremely good for aff, and with those same trinkets aff does more single target and multidot.... again the only reason you go demo is when you don't have enough aoe or you like to pad. Or a gimmick fight like thok, though with the changes there's probably not gonna be enough of an argument to go demo on that either.

.... again the only reason you go demo is when you don't have enough aoe or you like to pad. Or a gimmick fight like thok, though with the changes there's probably not gonna be enough of an argument to go demo on that either.

I dunno Muezick but it seems I got banned on the WoW forums for my outcry regarding the hotifixes.

I don't see what the big problem is. All I said was :" I honestly think they just use a dart board to balance this game.....A !@#$ing room of crap throwing monkeys can make more sense than these blokes."

So instead of taking criticism and thinking about what they did wrong, they decided to squash out an outcry regarding the changes.

Mmmk Blizz. You do that. I already got my Castanic Lancer in TERA to lv 20 and I can say that I am glad I am taking another long break from wow.

I don't see what the big problem is. All I said was :" I honestly think they just use a dart board to balance this game.....A !@#$ing room of crap throwing monkeys can make more sense than these blokes."

So instead of taking criticism and thinking about what they did wrong, they decided to squash out an outcry regarding the changes.

That's not criticism, that's insulting. Of course they are gonna ban you when you write something like that, are you joking...

You go demo on a lot of these encounters for superior mobility of a spec along with is more than competitive single/aoe target damage to go with that mobility. Thok shouldn't be a particular case, demo before the gutting was just flat out too powerful and provided far more freedom than people realized. I did our entire re-clear this week as aff just to see how it feels, and I definitely miss demo on a few of these heroics, that's for sure.

You go demo on a lot of these encounters for superior mobility of a spec along with is more than competitive single/aoe target damage to go with that mobility. Thok shouldn't be a particular case, demo before the gutting was just flat out too powerful and provided far more freedom than people realized. I did our entire re-clear this week as aff just to see how it feels, and I definitely miss demo on a few of these heroics, that's for sure.

What fights are those? I havent seen or done any.

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If you didn't have the trinkets for affi, there was really no point of playing it versus demo.

Except affi and demo used the same trinkets? Like what are you talking about? I <3 you cocoa but yea... thats not true =/

Did any of you guys try demo and ulvs last night? I did it for shuts and giggles on protectors. 3.6% uptime on the trinket. And definitely noticed the hit with imps. Is there any reason to play with it glyphed still? And affliction is okay but just blah I don't want to be forced to that spec.

Did any of you guys try demo and ulvs last night? I did it for shuts and giggles on protectors. 3.6% uptime on the trinket. And definitely noticed the hit with imps. Is there any reason to play with it glyphed still? And affliction is okay but just blah I don't want to be forced to that spec.

well with the 15k shadowflame haste cap, the glyph was a dps loss already on several fights. Still, i tried playing the UVLS demo, had to swap to afflic after 3rd boss, couldnt take it, going to have to maybe try demo with bindings and heroic breath, see how that does... Definitely noticed my imps sucking....

Did any of you guys try demo and ulvs last night? I did it for shuts and giggles on protectors. 3.6% uptime on the trinket. And definitely noticed the hit with imps. Is there any reason to play with it glyphed still? And affliction is okay but just blah I don't want to be forced to that spec.

Imps glyph was nerfed at 5.4 launch and is now only a burst gain and not a dps gain.

That's my case, i main spec affliction / offsepc demo in our 10 man raid (EU) and until now i was using LFR UVLS because it gave me better results than my thunderforged Wushoolay's, specially on Garrosh.

Besides, i have too much hit and using my Wush forced me to reforge hit instead of crit. Now i don't know what to choose between :

I have the exact same trinkets as you (though Normal UVLS) and only normal BotH.

I usually go with Wush/BotH for Affliction and swap BotH for Bindings for Destro (probably better for demo too?).

I definitely get better results with normal bindings paired with either wush or breath than both those trinkets together, for any spec. Miss the UVLS playstyle for all specs despite it being universally complained about though and affliction bores me to tears.