Argus Pantheon Trinkets - Secondary Equip Only Procs in Antorus Raid

Blizzard has clarified that the Pantheon Trinkets from Antorus, the Burning Throne, will have their secondary effects only proc in the raid. This is interesting as people were speculating it could be quite useful, but cause balance issues, in instanced content like Mythic+ Dungeons.\r\rIMPORTANT: Details have changed since the time of publishing this news post. For the COMPLETE up to date guide on Pantheon trinkets, please read our post Antorus Pantheon Trinket Roundup.\r\rThe initial forum thread also inquired about how to acquire these trinkets, which is still unknown. We'll update the post if further clarifications are made to the thread.\r\rIf you are unfamiliar with these trinkets, they come with a proc which can activate any time, anywhere, and then an additional effect which activates when a player and three other people in the group, when zoned into Antorus, have their trinket procs overlap. Check out our most recent coverage of how these trinket procs work.\r\rHey guys,\r\rA slightly different discussion here, but just popping in with a note that the secondary Equip effect on the Antorus trinkets that note "When empowered by the Pantheon...", such as 'Grandeur d’Aman’Thul' on Vision d’Aman’Thul or 'Façonnage de Khaz’goroth' on Courage de Khaz’goroth will only function within the Antorus raid once it is live.\r\rCurrently on the PTR this effect works outside of the raid, but its worthwhile to offer some clarification so there's no confusion once the raid itself is live.\r\rIf you have any questions on this, let me know!\r\rKaivax made a similar post on the EU forums, as well as confirming that yes, you can equip three legendaries at once if one of them is the Antorus trinket.\r\r\rSo, we'll be able to equip a third legendary, but only if we raid in Argus?\rYes.\r\rThe secondary equip effect on the Antorus trinkets notes that "When empowered by the Pantheon...", such as 'Aman'Thul's Grandeur' on Aman'Thul's Vision or 'Khaz'goroth's Shaping' on Khaz'goroth's Courage will only function within the Antorus raid once it is live.\r\rCurrently on the PTR this effect works outside of the raid, but we want to make sure there's no confusion once the raid itself is live.\r\rIf you have any questions on this, let me know!\r\rYthisens has made a post confirming that it takes four unique buffs to trigger the Pantheon secondary proc and that the Aman'Thul proc is supposed to be the only wild card. It currently does not function like this, but will be fixed in an upcoming build.\r\r\rWhile it won't function in Mythic+ we did change the six requirement so you only need four unique buffs to trigger the Pantheon secondary proc inside Antorus. You can have any possible combination of the unique five to activate this additional proc. Aman'Thul's Vision ignores the rule as a "wildcard" filling any gap that you might be missing from the other five.\r\rSo for example you can have two Aman'Thul's and two of the other uniques and it will trigger the Pantheon proc.\r\rKeep in mind we're still tweaking and making changes to the trinkets so please keep voicing your feedback about it :)\r\r\rCurrently all of the trinkets on PTR behave like Aman'Thul's Vision does in the Pantheon proc but will be changed to be unique before it goes live, other than Aman'Thul's which will stay as a wild card. \r\rStill as always subject to change but that's the current plan.\r\r\r\rPantheon Trinkets\rAll of the Pantheon trinkets received tuning last build, most notably Marque d’Aggramar which provides Versatility instead of Armor. Check out our datamining post for more raw spell data.\r\r\rMarque d’Aggramar - Conviction d’Aggramar - Tank \u00a0 Taking damage has a chance to increase your Armor by 1197 for 15 sec.Versatility by 2697 for 14 sec.\rAggramar's Fortitude\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, your maximum health is increased by 652038459366 for 15 sec, and you are healed to full health.\rProcs per minute changed from 2.2 to 1.4\rMarque d’Aman’Thul - Vision d’Aman’Thul - Wildcard \u00a0 Your spells and abilities have a chance to grant you 7411089 Speed, Avoidance, and Leech for 12 sec.\rAman'Thul's Grandeur\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, your Agility\/Strength\/Intellect is increased by 14141087 for 15 sec.\rProcs per minute changed from 2.5 to 1.4\rMarque d’Eonar - Compassion d’Eonar - Healer \u00a0 Your healing effects have a chance to grow an Emerald Blossom nearby, which heals a random injured ally for 2339236100 every 2 sec. Lasts 14 sec.12 sec.\rEonar's Verdant Embrace\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, your next 4 direct healing spells grant the target a shield that prevents 6520471132 damage for 30 sec.\rProcs per minute changed from 2 to 1.2\rMarque de Golganneth - Vitalité de Golganneth - Agility DPS \u00a0 Your damaging abilities have a chance to create a Ravaging Storm at your target's location, inflicting (7966 * 824783 * 6) Nature damage split among all enemies within 6 yds over 8 sec.6 sec.\rGolganneth's Thunderous Wrath\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, your autoattacks cause an explosion of lightning dealing 8270 to 913912896 to 14252] Nature damage to all enemies within 8 yds of the target. Lasts 15 sec.\rProcs per minute changed from 4 to 1.8\rMarque de Khaz’goroth - Courage de Khaz’goroth -Strength DPS \u00a0 Your damaging attacks have a chance to make your weapon glow hot with the fire of Khaz'goroth's forge, causing your autoattacks to do (1 * Mainhand weapon base speed * 8829 to 975812614 to 13940) additional Fire damage for 12 sec.\rKhaz'goroth's Shaping\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, your Critical Strike, Haste, Mastery, or Versatility is increased by 14132614 for 15 sec. Khaz'goroth always empowers your highest stat.\rProcs per minute changed from 2 to 1.4\rMarque de Norgannon - Prouesse de Norgannon - Caster DPS \u00a0 Your damaging spells have a chance to increase your Intellect by 13033257 for 12 sec.\rNorgannon's Command\rWhen empowered by the Pantheon, you gain 6 charges of Norgannon's Command for 15 sec. Your damaging spells expend a charge to inflict an additional 3432145760 damage to the target, from a random school of magic.\rProcs per minute changed from 3 to 1.4\r

Commentaires

Commentaire de EvielthinStealth

on 2017-10-16T15:25:04-05:00

This states that it requires their trinket and 3 others to proc the secondary effect. Is it no longer the case that each trinket must be active at once in the raid to get the secondary proc? Previously the tank\/healer\/int\/agi\/str\/Arcano crystal had to have a simultaneously active primary effect to proc the secondary effects. If this has changed to what was posted that makes these trinkets far more wonderful!

Commentaire de Wishblade

on 2017-10-16T15:31:56-05:00

Yup, you just need any 4 trinkets to activate now. Think it changed last week or so.\r\rA bit meh that it's only in Antorus though... Which also makes me kinda wish it was at least 6 trinkets at once so it's actually a "full" Pantheon.\r\rBut whatever, the real fantasy would be tedious with at least one of each kind of trinket so just gotta deal and enjoy the ease of it now.

Commentaire de JohnMcReady

on 2017-10-16T15:49:14-05:00

Aggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.

Commentaire de Elektrophorus

on 2017-10-16T16:15:45-05:00

Aggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rAre you sure you want to rely on a trinket that only procs when you take damage? They might even reduce the RPPM for non-Tank specs.

Commentaire de RaindanceEU

on 2017-10-16T16:59:38-05:00

All I see is another badly designed BiS trinket like the arcanocrystal. Yay for double arcanocrystal, muh trinket diversity.

Commentaire de Zyrosanis

on 2017-10-16T17:05:07-05:00

Aggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rAre you sure you want to rely on a trinket that only procs when you take damage? They might even reduce the RPPM for non-Tank specs.\r\rNot only that, but the pantheon empowerment would be wasted as well, as extra health won't make more DPS.

Commentaire de JohnBlame

on 2017-10-16T19:32:23-05:00

Still unclear about Aman'Thul's Vision. Does it drop personally from Argus or it's a part of raid loot?

Commentaire de Arithawn

on 2017-10-16T20:31:30-05:00

Still unclear about Aman'Thul's Vision. Does it drop personally from Argus or it's a part of raid loot?\r\r"The initial forum thread also inquired about how to acquire these trinkets, which is still unknown. We'll update the post if further clarifications are made to the thread."

Commentaire de porg1979

on 2017-10-17T01:09:52-05:00

ok so only works in the raid? kinda stupid whats the point of having it then? how can you say it's an upgrade if only works in the raid....whats the point?

Commentaire de serhatald

on 2017-10-17T02:04:35-05:00

ok so only works in the raid? kinda stupid whats the point of having it then? how can you say it's an upgrade if only works in the raid....whats the point?\r\rCalm down buddy, only the pantheon empowerment is limited, you still get primary procs and stats like a normal trinket.

Commentaire de Ashardis

on 2017-10-17T02:30:07-05:00

Healer one seems underwhelming?

Commentaire de lifekills

on 2017-10-17T03:38:41-05:00

Lol no one will want caster dps trinket. Why all other dps trinkets has main stat + proc and only caster one has mastery and mainstat as proc? Tired of melee expansion.

Commentaire de Freeozy

on 2017-10-17T03:43:17-05:00

I dont think these trinkets will be a big deal. If u have arcono 2.0 then put it in raid else dont give a #$%^. It procs? Who cares it is an other RNG.

Commentaire de BlackZetsu

on 2017-10-17T04:19:39-05:00

So tanks are basically F'ed? unless lucky and a random third person uses that trinket? Cause no dps wants to go with that one.

I honestly wonder how this will ever work out in random pugs.

Commentaire de LordAlgammon

on 2017-10-17T06:07:09-05:00

(Mark of Eonar - Eonar's Compassion) how far is the radius

Commentaire de Kendrubbin

on 2017-10-17T06:09:17-05:00

Aggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rWhy would you waste a trinket slot on a tank trinket that requires you to get hit?

Commentaire de Terbin

on 2017-10-17T12:21:43-05:00

any info yet on why there is 1 that is ilvl 1000 while the others are ilvl 940 (im assuming scales to raid Difficulty)? is the amon'thul one to be considered "better", but still remain only for intel ranged\/healers? will it be updated to count toward str, or agi classes as well? \r\rI'd really like to know whether they are all going to be 1000, scale up like the ring from HFC (cuz we all loved killed archimonde 20+ times for our rings =l ), or is that one truely just going to stronger and better than the other 5 trinkets.

Commentaire de Bisso

on 2017-10-17T14:17:11-05:00

any info yet on why there is 1 that is ilvl 1000 while the others are ilvl 940 (im assuming scales to raid Difficulty)? is the amon'thul one to be considered "better", but still remain only for intel ranged\/healers? will it be updated to count toward str, or agi classes as well? \r\rI'd really like to know whether they are all going to be 1000, scale up like the ring from HFC (cuz we all loved killed archimonde 20+ times for our rings =l ), or is that one truely just going to stronger and better than the other 5 trinkets.\r\rYes, it's specified in the article. The proc buff changes to strength or agility. Meaning it's a BiS for any DPS class. If you are lucky enough to find it, you can replace your current pantheon trinket for that.

Commentaire de JohnMcReady

on 2017-10-17T17:09:07-05:00

Aggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rAre you sure you want to rely on a trinket that only procs when you take damage? They might even reduce the RPPM for non-Tank specs.\r\rAggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rAre you sure you want to rely on a trinket that only procs when you take damage? They might even reduce the RPPM for non-Tank specs.\r\rNot only that, but the pantheon empowerment would be wasted as well, as extra health won't make more DPS.\r\rAggramar's Convinction is not for tanks only(the versatility version). I, as an outlaw rogue, will seek either Aggramar's Convinction or Aman'Thul's Vision.\r\rWhy would you waste a trinket slot on a tank trinket that requires you to get hit?\r\rGuys, I'm an OUTLAW rogue. Look at my artifact ability and my stats. For outlaw rogues, versa is best stat.