Do CTRL+ALT+DLT to bring up task manager and see if it says it's running or something else.

If it says it's running, give it a couple more hours.

Generally WinMFS either runs or out and out crashes and says so, or Windows pops up something to say it crashed.

I waited another hour or so but there was still no hard drive or CPU activity, so I ended it. I removed the drives and tried the drive from the HD XL with another 2TB new drive. It worked for a while and also 'froze up', so I figured it wasn't a problem with the drives. I then put the HD XL drives into a pair of hard drive docks that I had available to me, and tried again. This time, it ran smoothly until completion, and never froze! It took 2.5/3 hours. I'm now running the HD drives and it seems to be working well so far...fingers crossed!

I do have a question that I forgot to put in the initial post: I had upgraded the HD's drive to a 750GB (I believe in 2007). Will the procedure be any different when copying the upgraded drive, or will it be the same as copying the stock Tivo drive?

I waited another hour or so but there was still no hard drive or CPU activity, so I ended it. I removed the drives and tried the drive from the HD XL with another 2TB new drive. It worked for a while and also 'froze up', so I figured it wasn't a problem with the drives. I then put the HD XL drives into a pair of hard drive docks that I had available to me, and tried again. This time, it ran smoothly until completion, and never froze! It took 2.5/3 hours. I'm now running the HD drives and it seems to be working well so far...fingers crossed!

I do have a question that I forgot to put in the initial post: I had upgraded the HD's drive to a 750GB (I believe in 2007). Will the procedure be any different when copying the upgraded drive, or will it be the same as copying the stock Tivo drive?

Thanks a lot for the help, guys!

The HD drive just finished copying, and everything seemed to go well. I'll put them together and get them up & running tomorrow...hopefully!

Thanks for the help. Can I just do the supersize now (I hope!), or do I have to do the whole copy procedure over again?

You should be able to just do the supersize. The current difference between the HD and the HDXL (287 vs. 300) may be due to the previous upgrade. You should get an MSFinfo from the HD drive after the supersize and post it here.

You should be able to just do the supersize. The current difference between the HD and the HDXL (287 vs. 300) may be due to the previous upgrade. You should get an MSFinfo from the HD drive after the supersize and post it here.

I'm considering upgrading my S3 OLED (TCD648250B) to a 2TB drive and was looking at the WD20EURS on newegg. At the top of the page it says there's "a newer version of this item" with a link to the WD20EURX.

Is there any advantage using the EURX over the EURS in an S3? I don't know what SATA controller is in the S3, but I'm assuming it's not SATA III, so it seems like the 6.0Gb/s in the EURX wouldn't really help. yes? no?

Any other advantages/disadvantages of the EURX over the EURS? Specifically for my model TiVo that is... S3 OLED TCD648250B.

I'm considering upgrading my S3 OLED (TCD648250B) to a 2TB drive and was looking at the WD20EURS on newegg. At the top of the page it says there's "a newer version of this item" with a link to the WD20EURX.

Is there any advantage using the EURX over the EURS in an S3? I don't know what SATA controller is in the S3, but I'm assuming it's not SATA III, so it seems like the 6.0Gb/s in the EURX wouldn't really help. yes? no?

Any other advantages/disadvantages of the EURX over the EURS? Specifically for my model TiVo that is... S3 OLED TCD648250B.

For that application, or any TiVo application, there is nothing to be gained by the EURX drives, but they should still work due to backwards-compatibility.

It's actually kind of ridiculous that they even make SATA-III X-model drives in the first place for a "Green" and low-performance drive.

I've used EZRX drives in TiVo HDs, built on the S3 platform, so it's highly unlikely that you'd have any issues. I only got SATA-III drives, because they were cheaper than SATA-II, due to a holiday sale.

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I'm considering upgrading my S3 OLED (TCD648250B) to a 2TB drive and was looking at the WD20EURS on newegg. At the top of the page it says there's "a newer version of this item" with a link to the WD20EURX.

Is there any advantage using the EURX over the EURS in an S3? I don't know what SATA controller is in the S3, but I'm assuming it's not SATA III, so it seems like the 6.0Gb/s in the EURX wouldn't really help. yes? no?

Any other advantages/disadvantages of the EURX over the EURS? Specifically for my model TiVo that is... S3 OLED TCD648250B.

I'm using EURSs in several S3s, both 648s and 652s, quite successfully.

I have no experience with the Xs, but as long as I can get the older ones, I'm going to keep on doing so, funds permitting.

And they're still shipping EURS drives in brand new Roamios. It's their go-to drive and has been for several years.

Pick the best daily sale you can find, don't forget to factor in tax & shipping, and forget the rest. They only use 1.5Gb/s even if you could figure out how to shove a 15000RPM SAS enterprise drive into it.

I replaced a bad hard drive in my TiVo Series 3 unit last night from a TiVo file I found on the internet, and it's working great other than the fact that whenever I enter the Media Access Key into the iOS apps, it tells me that it's an invalid MAK.

I replaced a bad hard drive in my TiVo Series 3 unit last night from a TiVo file I found on the internet, and it's working great other than the fact that whenever I enter the Media Access Key into the iOS apps, it tells me that it's an invalid MAK.

Suggestions?

We need more info, what you did, what you are trying to do, what happened?

You said you replaced the drive, did you use an image from another Tivo? If you did, you need to have run Clear & Delete Everything, or it will not record or get service.

I replaced a bad hard drive in my TiVo Series 3 unit last night from a TiVo file I found on the internet, and it's working great other than the fact that whenever I enter the Media Access Key into the iOS apps, it tells me that it's an invalid MAK.

Suggestions?

Since that file was not made from your S3, it probably still thinks it's supposed to be in a TiVo with a different TiVo Service Number.

We need more info, what you did, what you are trying to do, what happened?

You said you replaced the drive, did you use an image from another Tivo? If you did, you need to have run Clear & Delete Everything, or it will not record or get service.

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Originally Posted by unitron

Since that file was not made from your S3, it probably still thinks it's supposed to be in a TiVo with a different TiVo Service Number.

Did you have to run Guided Setup?

Sorry for not replying right away.

Almost a day after I did a "Clear & Delete Everything", the iOS apps started working. I forced a firmware upgrade between that time, so that was probably the problem.

I don't know the deal with the Media Access Key now. I have OSX Mavericks which doesn't work with TiVo Desktop (at this time). I do have a Windows computer I can install TiVo Desktop on and see if the Key works, but I haven't done so yet.

Almost a day after I did a "Clear & Delete Everything", the iOS apps started working. I forced a firmware upgrade between that time, so that was probably the problem.

I don't know the deal with the Media Access Key now. I have OSX Mavericks which doesn't work with TiVo Desktop (at this time). I do have a Windows computer I can install TiVo Desktop on and see if the Key works, but I haven't done so yet.

Thanks!
~Alan

The TiVo gets the MAK from the TiVo, Inc. servers when it connects to get program guide info and set the clock and get updates and account status and all of that, and it has to report it's TiVo Service Number to get account status, and when it does so, the TSN has to show as being on your account for it to get the MAK associated with your account.

F'rinstance, an S3 I recently acquired would still have a different MAK, the one for the previous owner's account, if I hadn't contacted TiVo and had that set moved to my account.

I replaced a bad hard drive in my TiVo Series 3 unit last night from a TiVo file I found on the internet, and it's working great other than the fact that whenever I enter the Media Access Key into the iOS apps, it tells me that it's an invalid MAK.

Did you do a clear and delete everything? If not that would be the first thing I try...

EDIT: Nevermind, I see you did that and it seems to have cleared things up - congratulations!

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Question - I have a S3 HDXL, on it's 4th drive (just got it from WD after RMA on my last of the 2 I got from DVR_dude). How long does the C&DE take after reimaging with WinMFS?

I used the image posted by Unitron (TCD658000) and all seems to be going along OK so far. Tried this with the last drive I RMA'd and it kept going for days with no end. Anyone have the same experience?

Question - I have a S3 HDXL, on it's 4th drive (just got it from WD after RMA on my last of the 2 I got from DVR_dude). How long does the C&DE take after reimaging with WinMFS?

I used the image posted by Unitron (TCD658000) and all seems to be going along OK so far. Tried this with the last drive I RMA'd and it kept going for days with no end. Anyone have the same experience?

You need to be making your own backup images after you get everything set the way you want it.

If, after about 4 hours, it's still on the "Clearing and deleting everything" screen, pull the power cord plug, let it sit for 10 minutes, and plug it back in.

You already ran wdidle3.exe to make sure Intellipark is disabled, right?