This is here to hopefully clear up problems that have been had in the other stickies of arguments over what's emo and what's not. If you have any suggestions for additions to the thread (and if you've seen this on the first thread and think you're clever by saying, "emo sucks", the just leave now before I warn you) the please post, although not everything will get put up as not everything is an essential.

In the 1980's the Washington DC punk/hardcore scene was at its height and evolving. Out of inspiration from them and new bands forming out of old DC bands the 'emo' genre was born. At this point the term was barely used and when it was it was considered a sub-genre of hardcore music. A scene myth is that the term was first said at a Rites of Spring concert when a member of the crowd shouted out, "you guys are so emo" due to the way the band acted on-stage (emotionally).

In the 1990's the genre was really still starting out and few bands actually considering themselves 'emo', it was still just a sub-scene of hardcore, and then around 1993/94 bands started fusing the hardcore elements of emo with alt/indie rock stylings thanks (in part) to influences of Nirvana and the grunge scene (although there were still some sticking to the original sound).

Also in the 90's screamo came into fruitition as an evolution of emo through emo-core. It took hardcore to it's max but tended to include melodic breakdowns and continued the general idea of what emo was about (not all of these bands were around in the 90's).

At the end of the 90's a small sub-section of screamo arrived that got coined by fans as 'Midwest/East Coast break-up core' due to bands releasing a quick flurry of 7" singles and breaking up shortly after.

Hassan I Sabbah
Neil Perry
Orchid
Ursurp Synapse

2000's

1905's 'Voice' was released post 9/11 and contained influences from a wide range of styles and really shows the different directions that would be formed out of emo music (both poppy acoustic and heavy, traditional hardcore songs).

The birth of a new Millenium saw emo bands getting a lot more attention, and quite a lot of this is owed to Texas is the Reason who were one of the first to be picked up by MTV and major record labels. It was still not considered a mainstream genre until Jimmy Eat World came out with 'Bleed American' and everywhere was playing 'Salt sweat sugar'. It then spawned a million other bands who were allowed the same kind of success that J.E.W. saw.
A few tried to merge it more with the pop-punk sound of Blink 182 and Green Day that they grew up with and were considered emo by the media but really were a form of pop-rock.

Along with the pop fueled bands of the 00's, some musicians also took the idea a step further and removed nearly all obvious influence of the early innovators, but in their head still contained influences from 80s hardcore and 90s emo. The media had latched on and bundled these bands alongside the hardcore legends in the emo genre. Quite a few of these also decided that solo was the life for them after appearing in previous emo bands.

City & Colour - Sometimes
Dashboard Confessional - Swiss Army Romance
Kind of Like Spitting - Old Moon in the Arms of the New
Owen - I do perceive

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I would put up Mineral's Power Of Failing instead of ES.
And I'd add SDRE's Diaryto the 90's piece
Maybe analphabetapolothology instead of schmapp'n schmazz cuz it's a hell of a lot easier to get
And 30degrees Everywhere instead of Very Emergency for Promise Ring.

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In 2000 Cursive released Domestica, whuich kinda continued with the 90's and they have that D.C. Sound, plus I like Tim Kasher alot. Probably not essential.

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Well, if we are trying to get people to realize the history of emo, that should definitely be included...but I have to study for my Psychology test now...so Ill work on it within the next day or two...maybe even tonight?

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Maybe have a seperate section at the end : Pop-Emo - recently, "emo" has become popular on MTV but is largly disdained by the scene cause it blows hard. TRL being the death blow.