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The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

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The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.---------correctE. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

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06 Oct 2012, 07:15

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The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

IMO B since B is keeping the parallelism..the analysis found that "abc" and that "xyz"...i sumhow dont agree with D since it steers away the meaning of the sentence by 180 degrees....what is the answer?

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06 Oct 2012, 09:57

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getgyan wrote:

The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

IMO B since B is keeping the parallelism..the analysis found that "abc" and that "xyz"...i sumhow dont agree with D since it steers away the meaning of the sentence by 180 degrees....what is the answer?

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06 Oct 2012, 21:14

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getgyan wrote:

The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

IMO B since B is keeping the parallelism..the analysis found that "abc" and that "xyz"...i sumhow dont agree with D since it steers away the meaning of the sentence by 180 degrees....what is the answer?

Actually the author is trying to explain a contrast...so but is necessary..I hope you get the point..

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A is obviously wrong because of the wrong ‘different than’ idiom and use of 'which' to refer to 30 points. B is using bad tense; although the analysis might exist today, ‘has found’ is inappropriate for a report finding that occurred sometime in the past. Hence a past tense verb- found- is the apt one for that description. In addition, all the other verbs are in past tense to promptly refer to past occurrences. C also indulges in shift of tense when it states that - black boys are not- of course; more seriously C and E wrongly compare maths score with black girls

Therefore, we must choose D as the best answer
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07 Oct 2012, 21:47

aditi1903 wrote:

IMO B since B is keeping the parallelism..the analysis found that "abc" and that "xyz"...i sumhow dont agree with D since it steers away the meaning of the sentence by 180 degrees....what is the answer?

Hi Aditi

First of all, there are a few mistakes in Option B which does not make it a better option than D. Let us look at it1) “has found” is not correct tense. It is a statement/fact/findings. Use Simple tense2) “sometimes interpreted as three academic grades”. What does this mean? Sometimes wrongly refers to “30 points”. 3) Why so many “and” ? “and that black boys” “and that they fell behind”

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22 Nov 2012, 18:55

Can you please explain why can't which refer to 30 points in option A ? 30 points could be equal to three academic grades?

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A is obviously wrong because of the wrong ‘different than’ idiom and use of 'which' to refer to 30 points. B is using bad tense; although the analysis might exist today, ‘has found’ is inappropriate for a report finding that occurred sometime in the past. Hence a past tense verb- found- is the apt one for that description. In addition, all the other verbs are in past tense to promptly refer to past occurrences. C also indulges in shift of tense when it states that - black boys are not- of course; more seriously C and E wrongly compare maths score with black girls

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23 Nov 2012, 09:19

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The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

Hii Daagh.I got confused over this one. I have highlighted the blue confusion points in blue. Don't you think that all the relative clause following "that" in blue are what the analysis found?
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23 Nov 2012, 21:52

@ Prep

Found is the past tense of find. Found is also the past participle. Along with auxiliary verbs such as have, has, is, are, will be etc, the past participle is used in either in prefect tenses or passive voices.

Here the tests found ---- that is the plural subjects tests did the act of finding – namely found.

And there are also many other ways of using found: to establish; Eg; I am trying to found a club for local GMAT aspirants
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23 Nov 2012, 22:15

@ Marcab: If I got you rightly that is exactly what the text wants to say but with a contrast built in between list 1 and list 2. In gist, the tests found three things. 1, that that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls 2. But that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes, and 3. That they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points; the original misses the middle –that- which D provides promptly. The debate whether the contrast is required or not is moot, as it is clear that the original does intend a contrast.
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23 Nov 2012, 22:54

Hii Daagh for such a quick reply.What does "they" after third "that" refers to?So since they form a list, then quite probably we can write the sentence in the following parts.1)The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls.2)But the analysis of results on the national tests found that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes.3) The analysis of results on the national tests found that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points.

In the third list, I am confused over the usage of "they". Please let me know if I am unable to grasp the concept.
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23 Nov 2012, 23:09

They is certainly is a sore point; It is ambiguous in that it might refer to either the black boys or the math scores; But then, all the choices indulge in that; Logically, however we should take it as refering to the black boys, as they are being compared white boys, lest we should end up with another mis-comparison
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The analysis of results on the national tests found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades

A. found that math scores for black boys were not much different than those for black girls, but black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, which is sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.C. found that math scores for black boys are not much different than black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.E. found that math scores for black boys were not much different as compared to black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

(A) has parallelism issue. This is corrected in (D) by repeating 'that' after but. Also, which refers to '30 points' but uses singular verb (B) but is replaces by and - the contrast in original sentence is gone. Also 'has found' changes the tense of original sentence. (C) 'are' is wrong tense (D) RIGHT choice - correct the parallelism & does not have any tense / meaning issues (E) different as in wrong idiomatically

PS - I did not use the different from vs than split because I was not sure of the what was the meaning difference.

Please let me know your thoughts.. I found this questions extremely tough to resolve and took almost 3 mins
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05 Oct 2016, 07:25

Correct IDIOM is different from - not different than - chuck A C AND E .

B. has found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, and that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

Sometimes seems to modify 30 points - so doesnt clearly brings out the meaning the sentence wants to convey

D. found that math scores for black boys were not much different from those for black girls, but that black boys lagged behind Hispanics of both sexes and that they fell behind white boys by at least 30 points, a gap sometimes interpreted as three academic grades.

But is required as it shows the contrast here and secondly a gap is the correct modifier here.
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