No, the tick the box thing was specifically designed to give pilots who had a jaa licence the nationnal licence as well as they got an Easa licence, as the jaa licence was the only one you lost in the conversion process... those with old caa ppls and Nppl never gave up their licences like jaa ones did.

And my guess, without knowing, but with the usual Yorkshire tenner at stake, is that if you applied later as in this case, they would want you to add a non Easa rating into it as your excuse for getting it.

This is where the situation is complicated. Many pilots may have an old UK for life PPL, but the rating has not been signed up for years, as the limited duration JAA licence took over.The advantage of the new format is that it looks the same as an EASA licence and can be signed at the same time as the EASA licence.Would an Examiner wish to sign a rating in an old licence with the last valid rating twenty years old? With the advantage now of the UK licence only requiring a medical declaration, it would be helpful if the CAA made new format UK licences easily available to those who only possess the old format.

Irv Lee wrote:And my guess, without knowing, but with the usual Yorkshire tenner at stake, is that if you applied later as in this case, they would want you to add a non Easa rating into it as your excuse for getting it.

Yes, I would tend to agree...the Note to CAP 804 Part I Section 5 Subpart 1 clause 3 gives a hint

"Article 62(5) of the ANO renders the EASA PPL(A) to be a valid licence with the same privileges for non-EASA aeroplanes. Consequently a pilot who holds a Part-FCL PPL(A) does not require a UK PPL(A) unless they need to exercise the privileges of a rating that cannot be included in the Part-FCL licence; e.g. a type rating for a non-EASA aeroplane."

Had a response from the CAA. They did at least apologise for the delay in replying!

• Application form SRG1104, this is a generic conversion form that we use for a number of applications so a cover note explaining that you wish to have a UK PPL/CPL/ATPL in addition to your EASA licence would aid your application.• Fee of £37 (+optional courier fee).• A certified copy of your EASA licence, this can be certified by a UK examiner, head of training, base captain, chief pilot etc.

I'll be sure to have a colour copy of my black and white licence as the 'certified' copy

• Application form SRG1104, this is a generic conversion form that we use for a number of applications so a cover note explaining that you wish to have a UK PPL/CPL/ATPL in addition to your EASA licence would aid your application.• Fee of £37 (+optional courier fee).• A certified copy of your EASA licence, this can be certified by a UK examiner, head of training, base captain, chief pilot etc.

I'll be sure to have a colour copy of my black and white licence as the 'certified' copy

Why do they need a copy of your licence.... They issued it so should know that you have one.... unless it's to confirm ratings (but they should know about those too.)

Paul

The forum seems to have stopped logging me out at random intervals. Perhaps they like me after all? (Thanks for fixing it) Our pleasure!