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Part 2 Witness Testimony District Court State of Oklahoma v. John A. Gustafson, Attorney General Civil Case No. 1062

two you know at the windows two or three times. Q In your judgement about how many armed negroes did you see over there that morning? A I seen four or five running around the hill you know, there wasn't many there that I seen. Q How many places did you observe they were shooting from there? A About three places. Q How many armed white men did you see over there? A There were quite--there was a hundred or two or three perhaps. Q Were they all stationed on the hill? A Well, they came up on the hill and then went around down north for Fairview and then some of them came down on where I was on Detroit. Q Those men were shooting back and forth at each other, the negroes and the white people you spoke of, was that the time you phoned to the police station? A I did before that and since. Q Did you during the time that shooting was going on? A No, sir, I couldn't get away from where I was just then, I didn't go to a phone at that time, I thought I could stp the business when I went down there but I wasn't able to do it. Q What time was it this Dr. Jackson was shot? A Just about eight o'clock, between seven thirty and eight o'clock. Q These men that were with you at the time this shooting occurred, were they part of the same men that were on the hilltop? A Well, I expect some of them were but I am not certain whether they were or not. Q How were they dressed?

two you know at the windows two or three times. Q In your judgement about how many armed negroes did you see over there that morning? A I seen four or five running around the hill you know, there wasn't many there that I seen. Q How many places did you observe they were shooting from there? A About three places. Q How many armed white men did you see over there? A There were quite--there was a hundred or two or three perhaps. Q Were they all stationed on the hill? A Well, they came up on the hill and then went around down north for Fairview and then some of them came down on where I was on Detroit. Q Those men were shooting back and forth at each other, the negroes and the white people you spoke of, was that the time you phoned to the police station? A I did before that and since. Q Did you during the time that shooting was going on? A No, sir, I couldn't get away from where I was just then, I didn't go to a phone at that time, I thought I could stp the business when I went down there but I wasn't able to do it. Q What time was it this Dr. Jackson was shot? A Just about eight o'clock, between seven thirty and eight o'clock. Q These men that were with you at the time this shooting occurred, were they part of the same men that were on the hilltop? A Well, I expect some of them were but I am not certain whether they were or not. Q How were they dressed?