Re: Zone 10

Yes, I realize a lot of people don't want to be bothered. But up here, the
problem is that they label them ANNUALS. The people think they are supposed
to die. I'm adamant about labeling Tender Perennials as such. People don't
HAVE to winter them over, but TP brings to mind that it's possible.
> Hobby. Underground economy. There is a big market for home-grown plants
> in my neighborhood.
Oh yeah! people go crazy over my Persian Shield cuttings. Very easy to
sell at my annual sale. I'm pretty sure though that none of my customers
bother to take cuttings of their own at the end of the season. Maybe one
of these days I'll have Cordyline starts for sale.
Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10
> It may be that not everyone wants to try to save plants, Kitty. I'm not
> sure I know why-especially of a cordyline. They're not cheap, even in
> zone 10. Maybe there's a new industry aborning, here. One that
> rehabilitates plants that have been junked. Garage sale industry.
> Hobby. Underground economy. There is a big market for home-grown plants
> in my neighborhood.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 07:07 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > Lately I've had the opposite problem. I try to explain to people they
> > can
> > overwinter some of their tender perennials, but here they simply refer
> > to
> > them as annuals. Well, when a Cordyline costs $40, I am not going to
> > throw
> > it out after 4 months. (well, ok, I only paid about $5, but the same
> > one is
> > going for $37 at WFF and $40 elsewhere). A nice Osteospermum can cost
> > about
> > $5 here. Early on it's not much, but does grow to a nice size by the
> > end of
> > the season. So in Sep 02 I brought it in and put it back out in May
> > 03,
> > already a nice size. By the end of the season, it covered 3 times
> > what it
> > had the previous year. Last Sep, though, I just took cuttings. They
> > pitch
> > Purple Fountain Grass at the end of each year and buy new, when the
> > first
> > one has trippled in size. They throw away Caladiums and Cannas, which
> > could easily be overwintered in storage. I know I sound cheap, but
> > it's not
> > just that. These are healthy plants and bulbs they just pitch. I
> > know I
> > can't salvage everything, but I can't quite accept throwing away
> > everything.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10
> >
> >
> >> Thanks for the list. I'll go back to Darrell's list and take a peek.
> >>
> >> Yep, zone 10 here. Good things and bad things about zone 10. Good
> >> things are I can grow orchids, begonias, sweetsops, and avocados
> >> outside--not to mention mangos, lychees, guavas, bananas, and so on.
> >> Bad things are most plants northerners value and talk about won't grow
> >> here. I spend a lot of time at the nursery counseling folks from the
> >> north about the differences between here and there. It's a lot more
> >> than "palm verses ash," but that's always a good place to start.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 06:22 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jim, I got three of my Epimediums from Darrell Probst and two from
> >>> Plant
> >>> Pics - the people who used to own Shady Oaks . These are what I
> >>> have:
> >>>
> >>> Epimedium pinnatum ssp. colchicum
> >>> Epimedium alpinum 'Rubrum'
> >>> Epimedium x versicolor 'Versicolor'
> >>> Epimedium diphyllum 'Roseum'
> >>> Epimedium x youngianum 'John Gallagher'
> >>>
> >>> There are some real stunners in his collection that I'd love to have
> >>> some
> >>> day. Some listings I see on the internet show that some varieties
> >>> can
> >>> be
> >>> grown as far south as Zone 9, but you're in 10, aren't you?
> >>>
> >>> Kitty
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:36 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Ground Orchid
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> My turn to plead ignorance, Kitty. I didn't know what an Epimedium
> >>>> was
> >>>> but I found this page www.home.earthlink.net/~darrellpro/ that has
> >>>> pictures of any number of species. Very interesting flowers, some
> >>>> quite
> >>>> stunning. Which ones do you have?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jim, I looked it up and the images I saw of the leaves alone were
> >>>>> enough to
> >>>>> create a desire for the plants. The flowers are beautiful. I just
> >>>>> love
> >>>>> those little surprises, most of them in spring, when a long-awaited
> >>>>> plant
> >>>>> blooms. I am eager to see my first Epimedium flowers this spring.
> >>>>> And I
> >>>>> hope I don't miss the Bloodroot. It's such a grand surprise when
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> round
> >>>>> the corner and notice that new leaf, or the long-awaited flower
> >>>>> spike.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even though I can't grow much of anything you do, I enjoy it when
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> mention these items. It spurs me on to take a look at something I
> >>>>> might
> >>>>> never have thought to look up. Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kitty
> >>>>
> >>>> Island Jim
> >>>> Southwest Florida
> >>>> Zone 10
> >>>>
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> >> Zone 10
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