YenRug wrote:Oh, and yet another, "What's happened to Coulson?" moment. They're going to have to reveal this sooner rather than later; it's blatantly obvious to the other characters that something is going, if they just sit on it it will be stupidity of the highest order.

If they had sorted it by now you'd be complaining that they didn't keep the storyline going and rushed it.

You're misunderstanding me, I don't want them to rush it, it's that it's been brought up in pretty much every episode in some way and, when you see how it's handled in this latest ep, it's becoming very obvious that they're pushing to have the characters in the show actively investigate what's happened. These people are meant to be SHIELD's top investigative team, if they fail to pick up on something as blatant as this then the writers are treating the characters as idiots.

If the characters don't know Coulson then what is there to pick up on? So far the characters that are noticing knew him.

@varsas If you've seen the last scene with Akela, when she's being escorted off the bus, you cannot deny how blatantly it's being shoved in their faces. As I've said, these are people who should be supremely suspicious and pick up on slight clues, that was in no way a "slight" clue.

Didn't one or two of the characters refer to Fiji (I think) in a kind of sarcastic way. I was definitely getting the vibe of it being a bullshit story they told and possibly implanted memories/hypnotised/whatever to Coulson.

He is a clone implanted with coulsons memories but he doesn't have the muscle memory, hence knowing how to strip a gun but not being able to do it (they made it obvious by talking about muscle memory the entire episode

@Scimarad I'm talking about a TV show whereas you're comparing it to real life. The whole point I am making is that they are making it blatantly obvious that there is something wrong and doing so at a rate which implies it's going to come up sooner rather than later; if this was meant to be a long-term mystery you'd probably get some hint every 3 or 4 episodes, a little nudge to say "don't forget he died...", but there's been something in every single episode and they've gone from hints that educated viewers will get to shoving it in a character's face, more or less, "HE'S NOT THE SAME!"

The show had an initial 13 ep order and has now had its "back 9" (I think, not absolutely sure on the numbers) picked up, the way it's progressing I'm certain that the intent was to resolve Coulson's situation by the end of the first 13 eps; whether that will be moderated, by the extra eps now commissioned, I don't know.

Have to agree, the last couple of epsidoes have got better. Fridays episode had a good balance, reminded me a little bit of fringe. Going to stick with it now. Everything is a lot less forced than what it was, and skye robot gag at the CO was quite good.

Her being amazingly good looking is part of the problem I have with her character. It's too much. I just cannot believe that someone who spent all day in her van being a MASTER HACKER can have a body that only gym freaks could possibly hope to maintain.

I am still waiting for the episode where Coulson and his crack team scour the world in the search for a pair of super elasticated pants for the Hulk. Maybe the writers are saving that gem for when they run out of ideas. In which case it should feature very soon!

The episodes have picked up slightly but on current form the show does not justify 20+ episodes, although that's probably true of most tv shows to be fair. 13 Episodes a season would be better to cut down on the filler and have more killer.

I would still kill off some characters in this. It needs something to spark it into life as so far everything just seems so bland and by the numbers. I have eaten pot noodles with more personality than Agent Ward. Gunn in episode 1,the maltese millionaire and the woman with the manipulated eyeball all had more about them in their respective appearances than Ward has shown in four episodes of the show so far. With Agent Coulson, May and Skye does the show really need the character of Ward? Also why not have one of the techs end up leaving to work with an evil genius or something.

TheMightyRose wrote:
I am still waiting for the episode where Coulson and his crack team scour the world in the search for a pair of super elasticated pants for the Hulk. Maybe the writers are saving that gem for when they run out of ideas. In which case it should feature very soon!

The episodes have picked up slightly but on current form the show does not justify 20+ episodes, although that's probably true of most tv shows to be fair. 13 Episodes a season would be better to cut down on the filler and have more killer.

I would still kill off some characters in this. It needs something to spark it into life as so far everything just seems so bland and by the numbers. I have eaten pot noodles with more personality than Agent Ward. Gunn in episode 1,the maltese millionaire and the woman with the manipulated eyeball all had more about them in their respective appearances than Ward has shown in four episodes of the show so far. With Agent Coulson, May and Skye does the show really need the character of Ward? Also why not have one of the techs end up leaving to work with an evil genius or something.

crsmithy wrote:
The science babble does get a little irritating though, it almost feels very TNG esque in the way they blurt out SCIENCE to explain things.

My favorite was in the first episode where Ward said "speak English" to the science guy who was speaking in science language. It's like a warm blanket of a cliche - sort of comforting to know that it will always be there.

crsmithy wrote:
Have been generally enjoying this so far, it's definitely picking up a bit in the last two episodes.

The science babble does get a little irritating though, it almost feels very TNG esque in the way they blurt out SCIENCE to explain things.

Possible future arc for gravity scientist and the whole episode of eyeball scanner lady are the high points so far.

The faux science talk is pretty dumb, mainly because it's so obviously nonsense. I'd prefer that they either try and come up with something vaguely plausible or just avoid it, instead of "hacking the dhcp subnet mainframe flux capacitor" it could just be "accessing their system" or something suitably vague.

I find most annoying because it's lazy characterisation. Spewing techno-babble doesn't make you seem smart just ask vizzini

It's like the writers know they can reel people back in by dropping a reference to the Avengers. I think it was Mjolnir this week. I 'm not sure how long they can keep doing that before people get fed up and go and watch something else.

crashVoodoo wrote:
Next time I'm in traffic I think I'll whip out my phone and run Gridlock.mp4 and wee what kind of shit happens

Why does this kind of fuckwittery bother me but I'm openly accepting of flying cars, hulks and extremis etc.

I think it's the old "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This stuff is so obviously nonsense to anyone which a basic knowledge of tech because it's not sufficiently advanced, so it's not believable as 'magic'.

I guess it should be: "Any sufficiently vague technology is indistinguishable from magic."