Post by fasgnadhhttp://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/11830339617/East-To-West-The-Renaissance-and-IslamThe Renaissance and Islam - This series tells the story of the birth andflourishing of civilisation in the Middle East and its huge influence onthe West.

Pity it's been down hill ever since.

--When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him bythis sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting

Which of those NGs was NOT affected by the brilliance of Islamiccivilisation? You removed the mathematics ones, are you really sopig-ignorant of Algebra, Algorithm, the number system which replacedRoman numerals?

And the answer to that question for DaveJ and Sheffield is YES, theyreally are that ignorant! B^D

How much of modern mathematics, or science, oreconomics, trade, investment ...would exist if we still used RomanNumerals?

Sheffield and DaveJ are clueless imbeciles, they don't get maths at all.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAA!You stand on the shoulders of giants, and piss down their necks.

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/11830339617/East-To-West-The-Ren...The Renaissance and Islam - This series tells the story of the birth andflourishing of civilisation in the Middle East and its huge influence onthe West.

Then the Middle-East sank into absolute stagnation due to

The Middle East is not all of Islam, you moron, the largestMuslim Nation is Indonesia, and it is by no means in 'absolutestagnation'North Korea, the last Atheist regime, is in 'absolute stagnation'it is SO dysfunctional it falls off the bottom of the UN's HumanDevelopment Indices, and in it's regular FAMINES, the people EAT GRASS!BTW can you afford to live in Dubai? B^D

rigid religious fundamentalism.

Like Nazism, atheistic communism and other dogmatic ideologiesis backward and regressive. But while that is typical for EVERY atheiststate, many Islamic nations are democratic and progressive.Remember, the ME was like much of the world, subject to WesternImperialism and Colonialism, and kept in subjugation till WWIIAnd of course, there was corruption and decay as the brilliance of thecaliphate faded and corruption under the Ottomans became the norm.As it did in EVERY atheist regime in history, but none of THEM produceda glittering civilisation first! B^DAll human organisations have a limited lifespan, they follow naturalpatterns of birth, maturation, flowering and decay, but what is uniqueabout Zoroasterian/Hindu/Judeo/Christian/Islamic Civilisation is that itis like a relay race, with the spiritual torch being passed..whereas atheist states have all been totalitarian, short-lived,catastrophic cluster fucks killing over 80,000,000 and leaving nouseful legacy whatsoever!The Church, for example, has a priesthood which made absolute sense inthe massively illiterate society of the Middle Ages, (they kept alivewhat little recorded learning there was and were a unifying force,(witchburning hysteria aside)), but with the invention of the printingpress everyone could read and revolutions resulted;The first book printed was the Bible, people could read it forthemselves, in their own language, and form their OWN UNDERSTANDING ofit, the role of a literate priesthood INTERPRETING it for them waseffectively over.. the Reformation was the Spiritual revolution whichwas matched by similar revolutions in politics, and science, as massliteracy spread. But religion did not die, it became MORE DIVERSE,instead of the original Roman, Eastern Orthodox (and the smaller Copts)there are now 30,000 Christian denominations. And as religiousunderstanding grew, dialogue between the faiths grew and they cameto see their connections, just as the same understanding between nationsgrew.. Now we have Parliaments of World Religions and the UN,products of the maturation of the human species, thanks to thecivilisations which began with and have been driven and sustained byprogressive revelation;# Newsgroups: alt.atheism# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and KelseyBjarnyard? B^D# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500## There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"Precisely!"The Birth of ReligionWe used to think agriculture gave rise to cities andlater to writing, art, and religion.Now the world’s oldest temple suggests the urge toworship sparked civilization."http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-textThose that CAN, DO!And the rest, including the atheists, whine ineffectually,ignore the brilliant civilisations, miss the passing of the torchand see only the natural decline in the HUMAN ORGANISATIONSwhich sprang up in response to each new evolution of spiritualunderstanding.We all die, our forms of organisation wither, but the Human Spiritendures and finds expression in new forms.And, amazingly, the Catholic Church still, 2000 years later, functionsas an organisation doing massive good in the world, unlike all theatheist states, which left NO POSITIVE LEGACY AT ALL;http://www.caritas.org.au/projectcompassion/weekly-stories/weekly-stories

Islam and the “Golden Age” of Scientific Discovery

Yes, that's EXACTLY what the SBS documentary revealed!

the Muslim world was acquiring culture through violent conquest.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

That must be one of the most STUPID myths that moron Sheffield has everCUT AND PASTE

Al Gibra (Algebra) is CLEARLY not stolen by conquest, it's named inARABIC by the Muslim mathematician who developed it.. as was algorithm.

jwsheffield has to take his socks off to count! B^D

there is no arguing that the Muslim world was relatively moreadvanced during this period than the “Christian” world

That means they were the most brilliant civilisation of the age.

Anyone with a brain (ie NOT THESE iSLAMOPHOBIC REDNECK bigots) know howmany stars and constellations are NAMED IN ARABIC because they wereDISCOVERED by MUSLIM Astronomers?

"This is a list of traditional Arabic names for stars. In Westernastronomy, most of the accepted star names are Arabic, a few are Greekand some are of unknown origin:"