You're making a big assumption there, Sonny- and quite unjustified. Iran is not flying drones in US territory or anywhere near it as far as I know.
If they were, and the drone was shot down by the US, I'd say it was justified. You seem to be arguing from a simplistic position of "our guys=always
right, the other guys=always wrong" Not everyone here thinks like that- if you read carefully you'll notice that.

If the Predator really was in their airspace, then by all means, swat it out of the sky. But I have three questions that we'll probably never have
the answer to, that make this whole situation not add up to it being in their airspace for me.

1.) Why SU-25s?
2.) Why shoot at it with a gun, then shoot at it twice, and stop, why not use a missile? The Frogfoot can carry the R-60 (AA-8 Aphid), which is more
than capable of hitting a Predator.
3.) Why chase it out of their airspace, and then suddenly stop as if they hit a wall? They had every right to shoot it down if it started in their
airspace.

Both Countries are saying the same thing. The difference is in the why. If America fired on an Iranian drone, in international waters, or in Iranian
airspace, do you believe those hard-lined Iranians wouldn't be chanting "Death to America"? I sure as hell know they would.

Why wasn't this information released before the election? Why did Iran wait so long before talking about this?

Don't shoot the messenger here but you did ask.

While rumors of an “October Surprise” -- purported secret talks between the United States and Iran -- appear to have done little to affect the
outcome of the presidential election, new reports suggest Valerie Jarrett, President Obama’s senior adviser, may have been facilitating
communication between the two adversaries. Read more: www.foxnews.com...

The reports suggest that Jarrett, who was born in Iran to American parents and who served as senior adviser to Obama’s presidential campaign,
may have held clandestine meetings, bringing together officials from the Obama administration and the Iranian regime. Read more:
www.foxnews.com...

A drone, is a weapon of war. Armed or not. If Iran was flying drones off the coast, and the US felt it necessary for them to bring it down regardless
of reason. It is not an act of war for the US to do.

How given that the US, and Israel keep threatening Iran with military intervention, is Iran acting aggressively for shooting down a weapon that could
head into or out of their territory.

If an ICBM was flying over the Atlantic ocean heading to it's designated crash zone in international waters in the pacific, and the US shot it down
wouldn't you feel more at ease knowing you brought it down, instead of it possibly being a threat to the US?

I just don't see how this is aggression. Drones anywhere near Iran is an act of aggression. Whether it's carrying bombs or camera's Iran has it's
right to be left alone, just as the US does.

I felt it necessary to add that a drone is not a human being, and what exactly constitutes an act of war.

act of war

— n
an aggressive act, usually employing military force, which constitutes an immediate threat to peace

A drone is an unmanned aerial vehicle capable of being equipped with missiles. In essence, a flying smart weapons platform... A tool of war.

If I lived in a country where the US decided to fly drones over my head with the possibility of them being armed, I would be upset also.

I won't be very happy when they implement something like that here in the name of National Security. I just love the idea of an unmanned aircraft,
remotely controlled from who knows where, flying overhead that could possibly crash down without a moments notice. That makes me feel so safe

I can see it now. An unmanned drone gets taken down one day on a recon mission. A stupid, unnecessary, conflict sprouts into being without a single
human casualty.

Originally posted by cconn487
If I lived in a country where the US decided to fly drones over my head with the possibility of them being armed, I would be upset also.

You already do, man.
You live in the United States.

That is whats so freaky about it.

What is to stop a random person with the technical know how from taking one of them over and crashing it with a computer and a decent wireless
network? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but what is keeping our own military/government from using one of these for a false flag type attack?

Lets just say Iran did hack and land that drone they obtained awhile back. If they could do it once, they could do it again. Or we could be led to
believe they could do it again and have ourselves another 9/11 type witch hunt after the big bad terrorists strike again. With Iran as a prime
suspect.

Iran is a problem for the whole region as well as a threat to oil shipments coming through the Strait of Hormuz. It has unfortunately reached a point
that it is not a question of IF but WHEN the time comes when Iran will be forced to comply with it's agreements.

Iran has miscalculated in thinking that if it develops a circa 1945 Fission Bomb that this would deter the possibility of U.S. Military action. It
will not.

Fortunately there is a real possibility that Iran's own people may take power away from the current regime...but if this does not happen...Iran's
Military Leadership will have the choice of either Standing Down and becoming the protector of a Free Democratic Iran...or be Obliterated.

Iran is a problem for the whole region as well as a threat to oil shipments coming through the Strait of Hormuz. It has unfortunately reached a point
that it is not a question of IF but WHEN the time comes when Iran will be forced to comply with it's agreements.

Iran has miscalculated in thinking that if it develops a circa 1945 Fission Bomb that this would deter the possibility of U.S. Military action. It
will not.

Fortunately there is a real possibility that Iran's own people may take power away from the current regime...but if this does not happen...Iran's
Military Leadership will have the choice of either Standing Down and becoming the protector of a Free Democratic Iran...or be Obliterated.

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I don't get how Iran's leaders would think a single nuke would do anything either. Maybe the US going soft on North Korea put it in their mindset
that they can build one and get off with a warning.

I don't know how Iran's government works, but I am sure the people have about as pull as us American's do with our own government.

Its sad people use military action as a deterrent to gaining nuclear weapons.

We should be smart enough, whether you are a ruthless dictator, or a democratic loving patriot, to realize even a single nuclear device ready to be
deployed is an insult to humanity.

It's simple really, once you've tested the first nuke, the rest of the world stands down because they don't know if it was only one, or one of 4 or so
on.

The issue with nuclear weapons is it doesn't matter where it's detonated the extreme loss of life is to much for any nation to risk action. There are
plenty of nations surrounding Iran that don't want to be blown up.. In fact a lot of nations the US is pretty cozy with, so if Iran did get one you
could do absolutely nothing to them. IF you launched a nuclear attack on Iran, your allies are close enough they would suffer from the fallout, so you
can't use that option, and what can you do when the nation in control of the nukes could take millions of lives if you so much as spit at them.

Iran has crossed the line. It has made the mistake of Playing Nuclear Games with a Superpower. The decision has already been made that Iran cannot
continue to as it is with it's current regime.

Thankfully...the U.S. is having Secret Military to Military talks with Iran's real Military Leadership. Iran's Military Leaders and especially
Iran's Navy is on the verge of Mutiny as the Iranian Navy is not happy with the thought that they will be used by their Regime as the Sacrificial
Lamb in that Regimes attempt to regain the populations support should the U.S. be forced to act if that Navy is ordered to close the Strait.

Iran's Military is under no illusions what the outcome of a war would be with the U.S. Their anger is our Card in the Hole. Split Infinity

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