The Ron Paul Movement Is Already Breaking Downhttp://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-revolution-festival-republican-national-convention-tampa-2012-6/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:32:18 -0400Grace Wylerhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5a75369beddcb54000001Jonathan HydeThu, 05 Jul 2012 10:40:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff5a75369beddcb54000001
You do realize the government pays their employees by using money they take from private sector employees, right? Seriously, where do you think the government gets money? The only way it can spend money on someone is by taking it from someone else. That system is unsustainable.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff36d94eab8ea192f000012codyTue, 03 Jul 2012 18:09:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4ff36d94eab8ea192f000012
dead on elmo. funny how us poor people everyone talks about like they care!!!!!are going to get hurt worst.we no how to make it,we hunt ,we survive,no matter what.we can make it country boys will survive.not the fat cats 10years it will be okhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fef5704ecad04dc2e000009Anonymous 3000Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:44:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fef5704ecad04dc2e000009
The story is much simpler than the article portrays. Freedom Festival was organized primarily out of concerns that the venue could not be procured, although there may have been secondary concerns that it was a bit too focused on Paul rather than the message of liberty. Meanwhile, I'd imagine Paul's decision to do his own thing rather than getting involved with either of the other events has more to do with not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings than anything else. Those at one event would feel slighted if he attended the other.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fec6eb06bb3f7ec18000007HGThu, 28 Jun 2012 10:48:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fec6eb06bb3f7ec18000007
Ron Paul has taught us all a lot. I have enormous respect for his message and policies. The movement wont die, it was always about policy.... whatever politicians follow his policy on money, debt, war and individual rights will have the Ron Paul people behind it. People know what to look for now, thanks to Ron Paul.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fec6d6769bedd8072000003KBThu, 28 Jun 2012 10:42:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fec6d6769bedd8072000003
*FACE PALM* Really? You're an American and THIS is your conclusion? O.H. M.Y. G.O.D.
Good luck with that. From Australia.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb3374ecad049632000014banthescanWed, 27 Jun 2012 12:23:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb3374ecad049632000014
He is also pro-abortion.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb32f96bb3f7f55e000004banthescanWed, 27 Jun 2012 12:21:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb32f96bb3f7f55e000004
Nice Romney PR puff piece.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb32aeeab8eabc52000001banthescanWed, 27 Jun 2012 12:19:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb32aeeab8eabc52000001
Of course you don't care about abortion, the Constitution doesn't say you have a right to life does it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb09b66bb3f76f12000004rob aurichWed, 27 Jun 2012 09:25:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feb09b66bb3f76f12000004
Dear grace,
I know you are looking to position yourself well with your editors, right? Because you don't seem to understand that all Paul has done (perhaps by mistake, or coincidence) is to ignite a major percentage of the American population and validate their desire for liberty. He is not really a leader, much like OWS is leaderless. But looking up to the hierarchy at BI, you seem to miss this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feacb8469bedd171100000dMitch SlagghornWed, 27 Jun 2012 04:59:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feacb8469bedd171100000d
Soooo, what is it that you guys are so afraid of actually?
Come on Trolls, out with it, Only fear would bring you here to mock a
candidate no longer campaigning, to further some kind of attitude against
people who know there is really no other choice to save the country.
Comical and ineffective, Yet, you persist.. so very interesting,,,leads me to believe, that there is far more support out there for RON PAUL than even I could guess, and certainly more than Grace can imagine.
-Write It IN- 2012 Ron Paul,, November! -pass it on-http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feac7816bb3f7ed1c000001Mitch SlagghornWed, 27 Jun 2012 04:42:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4feac7816bb3f7ed1c000001
You are an idiot. Go vote for Mitt Mechanical Grip, he deserves your vote.
With all the money trails out there, more than ... fighter jets in Bahrain,
you pick -- Texas as your measley example of wasteful government spending.
And you have no foresight towards spending that is yet to come, and
the ramifications. A mechanical grip may be the only one you have.
BUT, it adds to the evidence I mentioned above, not only are there events
still planned for Dr. Paul, but there are guys like you, .. some troll network out
there petrified that people will figure out how bad they are being lied to to
by November. And rather than than "moving along" to support the incredible
Mr. Thrifty in the seat now, you come here to blanket a few more lies to ensure that the country will not deviate from it's current course. heaven forbid somebody throw a monkey wrench in your ponzi scheme. You should talk a little bit more so I can figure out which one you belong to.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea43456bb3f7ec2e000001atiboy2Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:18:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea43456bb3f7ec2e000001
This is just the beginning of the Freedom and Liberty Revolution and we will NOT need Ron Paul to further this grassroots Revolution. I do think Paul will be surprised that more of his supporters will be at the Paul Festival at the Tampa Fairgrounds rather than his Sunday rally. If he had been wise, he would have just had his rally on the last day of the Paul Festival (Sunday)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea2e72eab8eabf15000006NickTue, 26 Jun 2012 17:49:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea2e72eab8eabf15000006
THe Ron PAul support is not fractured. The media would love to sell that story. It is a lie. The fact that there are multiple Ron Paul events is a good thing. More Opportunities for folks to get out and support Liberty.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea0e2869beddde60000001Harry McGuire JrTue, 26 Jun 2012 15:31:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fea0e2869beddde60000001
The Ron Paul movement is actually stronger than it has ever been and will still be in the future.. This is just propaganda to try and get other people votes, dont believe it.. Romney is not the nominee.. They arent even sure he will have the delegates yet...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9f1cfeab8eadd07000002Yup.Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:30:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9f1cfeab8eadd07000002
Amen. Hey Paulbots, here's a great idea! Get the fuck off the internet and go vote. That might help your cause more than spamming the fuck out of websites that disagree with you. This is why everyone hates you.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e8fa69bedd4a7e000009Nick C.Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:53:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e8fa69bedd4a7e000009
See, my favorite part about your reply was the last sentence. "I'd vote for .... before I vote for Obama again."
I voted for Obama too, because like you and many others, I thought he really promised change, and boy, did he talk smoothly. Too smooth, no one even recognized the massive lie.
Unfortunately, our peers (including the ladder above you) are retarded; mentally incapable of critical thinking. They honestly believe that if Obama can't fix it, Romney will fix it. So what's going to happen in 4 years if Romney can't fix it (because you know he won't, he's playing for the bankers), are people going to rally behind the Democratic nominee like in 08? Probably. Our peers are legitimately stupid, I hate to say it. The worst part is, because of their ignorance, we have to suffer. Instead of taking a step back and looking at the system as a whole, or maybe even RESEARCHING WHILE IT STILL EXISTS, they get caught up in the drama of it all, almost like watching a reality TV show. Sheeples.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e828ecad044e5a00000eThomas KleinTue, 26 Jun 2012 12:49:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e828ecad044e5a00000e
The Neocons, Jesse Benton, Trygve Olson and the Establishment thinks cutting the head off of the liberty movement will make the movement fall apart. BUT THEY'RE WRONG!! Liberty can never be destroyed only reinforced from external violators, including domestic traitors.
GET THOSE RON PAUL DELEGATES AND SEND THEM TO TAMPA!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e7c26bb3f76c04000004SarahTue, 26 Jun 2012 12:48:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e7c26bb3f76c04000004
Neocons, Jesse Benton, Trygve Olson and the Establishment thinks cutting the head off of the liberty movement will make the movement fall apart. BUT THEY'RE WRONG!! Liberty can never be destroyed only reinforced from external violators, including domestic traitors.
GET THOSE RON PAUL DELEGATES AND SEND THEM TO TAMPA!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e4fbeab8ea7969000004GarrettTue, 26 Jun 2012 12:36:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e4fbeab8ea7969000004
Let's see now... there are THREE events planned to honor a man and his movement and his movement is breaking down. Romney should be so lucky. Oh and by the way, I'll be reduntant and add that your ariticle is irrevelant.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e42eeab8ea7c66000008Nick C.Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:32:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9e42eeab8ea7c66000008
Sure, the movement may not LOOK like it is doing well, but don't put all of your eggs in one basket; you'll make a fool of yourself. Ron Paul woke us up, he isn't our master; we choose to follow his ideas. With or without him, this train is moving forward full speed ahead. I'm waking up new people every day, along with my brothers and sisters across the world. However, we are fighting for one thing here in the United States; our Constitution.
First Amendment: Stop blocking free speech, it is unconstitutional. Stop blocking the right to petition, it is unconstitutional.
Second Amendment: Don't you dare touch our guns; it is our protection against the tyranny. The only real terrorist on this planet is the US Government.
Fourth Amendment: Stop the unreasonable search and seizure, as well as infinite detention, without probable cause. NDAA, PATRIOT Act, and CISPA are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Fifth Amendment; we are innocent until proven guilty. You have no right to hold us indefinitely if we have no reason to be.
Ninth Amendment; end your mindless rhetoric bullshit. Many of us see right through your large vocabulary and recognize what you are trying to do. You are not going to shackle us up because the constitution says nothing about it.
Tenth Amendment; every single power you cannot have, you give to the states, they are our neighbors, our children, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, firefighters, policemen, teachers, etc.
Article 1 Section 8 - The power to coin and regulate money and to pursue counterfeiting money. End the Federal Reserve cartel that has turned us into slaves to this Keynesian hell hole.
Restore Checks and Balances, the Executive branch's overreach is unnecessary. It is considered more powerful than Congress, which was supposed to be the most powerful branch of government.
Test the constitutionality of every battle/war we are in against Congress, so that we may end these illegal propaganda wars.
Funny thing about that whole rant, it would all be done by ONE single action; restoring the Constitution of the United States.
We the people, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish the constitution of the united states. Know it. Love it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9d8e069bedd065500000cKJDTue, 26 Jun 2012 11:44:32 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9d8e069bedd065500000c
Some of the speakers at the grassroots events weren't 'political' choices for someone about to go to RNC to have his name put into competition for the nomination. The events are before the RNC actually occurs.
But you are wrong on the movement falling apart. We never were top down. WE found RON PAUL, he didn't find us. He tells how in 2007 he asked someone how all these people even knew about him, and that is when he learned of this thing called 'youtube'. His record draws us like a swarm of bees to a flower, in a sense. Even after RNC regardless of how it goes, he will still be by far the most potent flower around. Eventually, there will be others, we hope.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9cefdecad04322a00000cMurtTue, 26 Jun 2012 11:02:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9cefdecad04322a00000c
Apparently it wasn't destroyed. Because people are still trying to destroy it - be it horrifically stupid grade school journalism such as this pile of shit -- or be it other people who are trying to tag it as 'destroyed'.
Clearly Ron Paul has a following that is undying and dedicated and who are civil liberties / constitution smart -- unlike 80% of the morons in America, that are dedicated to the principles this country was founded on -- NOT just will vote for someone that promises HOPE (LIES) / CHANGE (MORE LIES) / TRANSPARENCY (BOLD FACED LIES), people who are willing to sacrifice some peace of mind, police state / nanny state, in order to enjoy FREEDOM.
Yes. A few rednecks jumped on the bandwagon. AND because of the SEVERE THREAT Ron Paul poses for the status quo / big business / military complex / ceos / bankers and the wall st maggots -- THAT is what the media focuses on to marginalized and side line Paul.
Do I agree with everything Paul says -- NO absolutely not. Be he has, and HAS ALWAYS HAD, his priorities right. Romney? Please. What a joke! Obama -- what a oily lying piece of rat crap he turned out to be. I have not a speck of respect left for that man. So little respect I actually switched form a lifetime Democrat just so I could vote Republican in the primaries.
Not that I'm under any illusion Romey is any better. But I'd vote for a Baboon with down syndrome before I vote for Obama again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9ca53ecad04c421000001FacehTue, 26 Jun 2012 10:42:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9ca53ecad04c421000001
No journalism here.
Its interesting how they take the information that there will be THREE whole festivals devoted to the liberty movement as a sign that the coalition is 'breaking.'
While they are 'competing' in the sense that you can only attend one at a time, there's no reason they all can't be wildly successful. The fact is this indicates how strong the movement is and how much it has grown. To spin this as
But no, its okay, I can forgive the wild biases in this article if they are willing to go to one or all of the festivals and cover them. I anticipate that EACH will have thousands upon thousands of participants (though the one featuring Paul will probably have a special draw) and there will be no way you can spin that into "the movement is broken."
Oh who am I kidding you'll find a way to spin that too. More likely, however, the whole thing will be ignored.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9c122ecad044e10000005Failure of Ron PaulTue, 26 Jun 2012 10:03:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9c122ecad044e10000005
Ron Paul's campaign was destroyed when the T-party rednecks heard 'less taxes' and jumped on the bandwagon - which totally discredited Ron's actual message of Free market capitalism.
This is what happens in politics - popular ideas attract ignoramuses.
I don't agree with Ron's Free Market ideology - but at least I know that paying less tax is only a small part (despite what the T-party morons say)
With less taxes comes greater personal responsibility - and I'm sorry but too many citizenshave demonstrated they are simply not ready to grow up yet.
As for the GOP - well they don't care who or how it is won - as long as the next president signs up to another decade of military spending.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9bcabecad045207000003Spot the idiotTue, 26 Jun 2012 09:44:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9bcabecad045207000003
"Government employees aren't particulary adept at producing value, because government isn't structured to produce value"
yes it is - you're just a numpty who thinks 'value' = 'money'.
Fucking retardhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9b44669bedd6d70000007Gary AndersonTue, 26 Jun 2012 09:08:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9b44669bedd6d70000007
I understand why interest rates are kept low, for housing, for interest CDO's, which screw government btw, and for being able to afford the debt. I am not a fan of this but that is a right of government to do this. But private industry is growing slowly, and more government workers would speed that up. The problem is the velocity of money, and there is none.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9aa4c69bedd6254000002jhalldorTue, 26 Jun 2012 08:25:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9aa4c69bedd6254000002
Another propaganda piece. The neo-cons elites must really be worried that the people are waking up.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9a72e6bb3f7ed06000010Thomas Jeffery EglestonTue, 26 Jun 2012 08:12:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9a72e6bb3f7ed06000010
The GOP is doing a fine job of destroying it's self as Obama is doing to the DNC. The Bankster's propagandists ( the corporate owned mainstream media) are doing their part too in helping to destroy Liberty, the Constitution and the future of America by telling their lies and attacks. Why do I smell bagels?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe99bc8eab8ea853200000aToni SamanieTue, 26 Jun 2012 07:23:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe99bc8eab8ea853200000a
Dr. Paul is just the catalyst to get the whole rLOVEution going. This isn't about breaking down but rather ramping up. This is just the beginning. PaulFest is going to be awesome! So many of my Facebook friends are going. We all need to get involved in our local government and restore our liberties. We have just begun to fight the tyranny that has befallen our once great country.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe96ac669bedd9b39000006RollerDTue, 26 Jun 2012 03:54:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe96ac669bedd9b39000006
Facts have no place here, please move along.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe961f7ecad04f45c00000cHabibTue, 26 Jun 2012 03:17:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe961f7ecad04f45c00000c
Beltway greg -- u just upset cause he shot down bruno and called him queer... Perhaps barney frank mor to ur likinhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9479decad04a631000012Ryan VannTue, 26 Jun 2012 01:24:45 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9479decad04a631000012
Your satire is amazing sir.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93b93ecad04091b000001Mechanical GripTue, 26 Jun 2012 00:33:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93b93ecad04091b000001
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Hey Dick Wicks -- you are aware that this "burdensome" government you refer to is a direct result of Ron Paul's excessive government spending -- RIGHT?????
Do some fucking research. Ron Paul's Texas district was one of the largest recipient of Federal dollars of any district in the USA. That sir is a F A C T. What that means is he is spending MY taxpayer dollar that I ship off to Washington every year.
Ron Paul should be held responsible for tax gouging and lies he parades around saying otherwise. I'm talking Federal prison time for being a tax cheat.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93a2b69bedd6e4e00000dMechanical GripTue, 26 Jun 2012 00:27:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93a2b69bedd6e4e00000d
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"Then I looked up this Author. It's just some Fat Ugly POS Liberal Wannabe that just graduated college, trying to impress the NYT's"
This is EXACTLY why the so called Ron Paul "revolution" is stupid. you've got a bunch of mental midgets espousing global policy as experts at the same time they call the author of this article a "fat POS". Brilliant...
Ron Paul is finished. But not before he screwed his "followers" by doing all kinds of back room deals with his scheming son. Then he doesn't even bother to show up to the party they throw for him.
Just as he abandoned his campaign manager on his death bed, he's abandoned his own supporters and that IS exactly what I've predicted would happen.
So sad. Sad...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93095eab8eacc4d000001Tim WoodsMon, 25 Jun 2012 23:46:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe93095eab8eacc4d000001
Trust me - no future Presidents or congressmen will be elected if they say that Ron Paul was their inspiration. The reason is simple - Most sane people realize that Ron Paul is a hypocrite and a liar. He pretends to be folksy and the like, but he's really a calculated sociopath who should have been thrown out of office a long time ago.
The people who have been brainwashed are the sheep who think that Ron Paul actually means what he "says".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92654ecad04067200000cBeltway GregMon, 25 Jun 2012 23:02:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92654ecad04067200000c
More like a gelding. An old gelding.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe922436bb3f7d415000003As in....Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:45:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe922436bb3f7d415000003
Ron Paul is a stud...As in dumb as a 2x4 stud in some residential home's wall!
Good riddance to that loser!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe921e0ecad04c069000013BS!Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:43:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe921e0ecad04c069000013
The only thing still growing is the size of the Paulites' and Libertarians' heads! Careful now, before it pops! The more normal folks learn about Paul's radical Libertarian and Randian ideology, the more they reject it!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92117ecad04986b000005And now...Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:40:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92117ecad04986b000005
And now that it's over...seek counseling and professional help. Deprogramming should be considered as well.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92058eab8ea252b000003What???Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:37:12 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe92058eab8ea252b000003
87& support Ron Paul? How delusional...Oh, wait, you're a Libertarian.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91ffc6bb3f79b13000004elmoMon, 25 Jun 2012 22:35:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91ffc6bb3f79b13000004
Adding workers to a payroll, public or private, isn't sufficient to improve the solvency or prosperity of a nation. The ability of those workers to produce value is what matters. Government employees aren't particulary adept at producing value, because government isn't structured to produce value. Government runs on political considerations, not financial or economic considerations, so most government spending has a negative return on investment. That's part of the reason our debt is growing faster than the economy. The other part is that the federal reserve has kept interest rates too low for a long time. Cheap money encouraged bad investment risks and borrowing for consumption, which contributed to our negative ROI and growing debt load.
Keynes said we could pay people to dig holes and still gain economic benefit, but that's not true. Any use of resources that doesn't pay for itself is a drag on the economy. Create enough inefficiency over a long enough time frame, and the economy will break. Centrally run economies, across all types, have not been successful at generating economic benefit for the general population. They tend to concentrate wealth in a few hands, and that's the best they can offer.
I agree with you that financial speculation is a waste of resources, and it has created a lot of bad investment. But that bad investment is because of central planning of interest rates. In a free market, the private sector does a good of finding investment opportunites that generate a positive ROI. Not perfect, but good and better than the alternatives. Unfortunately, we're a long way from there and even Ron Paul's supporters generally don't understand that his economic prescription would be bad medicine for probably ten years.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91fdbeab8ea7921000009LibertardMon, 25 Jun 2012 22:35:07 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91fdbeab8ea7921000009
How cruel of you to taunt those Libertarians in their moment of defeat!
Keep it up, my friend! Those political-cult Paulites have earned it!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91d5769beddbf10000002jet sedgwickMon, 25 Jun 2012 22:24:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91d5769beddbf10000002
Ron Paul is a stud.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91c4aeab8ea0f1c00001aJohn WamsleyMon, 25 Jun 2012 22:19:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91c4aeab8ea0f1c00001a
Go Away Bunty, your a retard!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9191e6bb3f7e208000023John WamsleyMon, 25 Jun 2012 22:06:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9191e6bb3f7e208000023
What's really funny is JIMMY CARTER, is calling OBAMA a failure!!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91769eab8ea7e14000008John WamsleyMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:59:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91769eab8ea7e14000008
First they Ignore us, then they laugh at us, THEN THEY FIGHT US, then we win!!!! Go Ron Paul!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91712eab8eaeb11000007Mitch SlagghornMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:57:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe91712eab8eaeb11000007
Gee Grace, Just How do you base your facts??? Listen to a Poll?? Must be he's not being mentioned on "mainstream media", what a surprise eh Ms. Wyler?
Fact of the matter is, media outlets such AS THIS ONE, have done absolutely ZERO to give this candidate a fair shake. For the record, he didn't lose, he was shut out, and there's a difference. You can't lose in poker Grace, if you aren't dealt any cards. There's no confusion with his supporters, NONE,... because neither Mitt or Obama are worth anything. Neither will address the real problems facing this country. Like the Federal Reserve, or, transparency in government for examples. Nice Try Grace, outstanding,.. Tell me, when was the last time you saw a candidate drop out of the race for President, and yet his followers are still organizing fests, rallys and the like? hmmm,.. somehow there's still quite a bit of momentum for someone who can't get on a level playing field. There's probably a story there buuut, BusinessInsider will make sure Ms. Wyler will have something far more important to write about when August 26. Ron Paul won't have any rebel movement disgrace the race, because he's a class act.
-WRITE IT IN- November, RON PAUL 2012http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe916c26bb3f75802000003Andrew HallMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:56:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe916c26bb3f75802000003
The PNAC quietly scuttled the Paul campaign with vote fraud in Iowa, Michigan, Arizona, and probably other states to boot.
He wouldn't play ball and offer the CIA and Defense their gargantuan Crusader budgets; so the PNAC subverted the local party bosses of the early primary states to change vote count locations (Iowa, for instance - I really doubt Santorum even won his own state) and pad Romney and Santorum up to make it look like they were having a real race.
Go look at the population of each candidate's rallies; consider also the Ron Paul debate where people were clapping and cheering - all edited out by CBS News, who cut everything but 90 seconds of footage of him from that debate. (He still won the online poll.)
I am not a Ron Paul supporter; but it was ugly to watch that level of cheating go on against anyone.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe914f469bedd237c000008Get RealMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:48:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe914f469bedd237c000008
Sheesh! There go more media lies. The fact of the matter is, the Ron Paul Revolution has grown so large in this nation and is still growing. Some don't realize this because of all the election fraud that took place across the nation. The U.S. media refuses to cover this story, but international media know what has happened and will be in Florida. One venue would not hold all of the Paul supporters going to Florida, they really need at least five venues but have had to settle for three knowing there is still not going to be enough space. Once the house bill calling for a full audit of the Fed takes place in July and the Senate is forced to join in support because of the public out cry this country is really going to get crazy. Unless people seek out independent news sources, they have know way of knowing what is really going on.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe913a36bb3f72b7f000001Gary AndersonMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:42:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe913a36bb3f72b7f000001
We would be more solvent if we had more government workers. They pay taxes too. If the private sector does not want to hire screw em.
The criminals in power are criminals because they sold CDO's that were risky but put a label of non risk on them. They are criminals because they allow speculation and you libertarians love speculation.
You have no clue, and the only thing we agree on is that too much is spent on the military.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9138e69bedd6179000004RealistMeMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:42:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9138e69bedd6179000004
The only thing that's finished is the old guard centralized politburo members known as Republicans and Democrats. The message of liberty and a life free of govt intervention has resonated with the American populace and a new generation of future politicians. So perhaps those involved and ardent supporters of his campaign may be showing some infighting. But that is to be expected, fingers pointed, blame laid upon others, etc. but at their core the belief in a once again free United States remains. The old fascist Dem/Repub leaders have shown their future, one full of war, welfare, spending, and meaningless laws designed to raise revenue. Following their plan will result in a dark future indeed, any hope of a better tomorrow lies in their opposite direction.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe911f56bb3f7e37800000cthe kiLLing JokeMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:35:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe911f56bb3f7e37800000c
The more people come to the conclusion that the R vs D paradigm is just the same bullshit wrapped in blue and red, the more people will support those who seek freedom and liberty for all. Whether it's Ron Paul or Gary Johnson does not matter, people are waking to the fact that what is truly breaking down, Grace, is the notion that republicans and or democrats have anything worth a shit to offer.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe910126bb3f7af7400000brandpaulkilledit22Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:27:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe910126bb3f7af7400000b
Yep... Paul made his first appearance after the Rand Announcement on Morning Joe and he was interviewed by the lady (verus Joe, who would have been expected to ask the hard questions). Basically what you had there was the GOP managing who Paul talks to. Mika (the lady interviewer) didn't even ask him about Rand Paul's endorsement. The toughest question he got was if he's against social security why does he himself take it?
I believe Paul started out authentic and genuine, but there is no question that in the end, on his son's behalf, he sold out to the establishment. No one talks about this, but I strongly suspect it had something to do with the lunch he had with Bernanke a month or so ago.
I think Paul knows that everything he has talked about, the collapse, is coming and since it is now inevitable I think he sold out so that his son would have a future and so that the Paul family would be connected to power and status and hence be taken care of during the collapse. I think he's made a move for his kids and grand kids at the expense of the country.
And yes, when no one would talk to Paul, Alex Jones did and in the end Paul spit on Jones once he was part of the establishment. Not cool.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90ee469bedd956e000006nevadasmithMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90ee469bedd956e000006
I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our American home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone..
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Tampa, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Country, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Country or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Servicemen beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the American Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
"Winston Churchill" and Wikipediahttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90dc6eab8ea0402000002Angelina FoxMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:17:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90dc6eab8ea0402000002
When I read earlier today that Gary Johnson wil be speaking at the Freedom Festival, my first thought was that the momentum is building for the Johnson campaign. Next, I thought it looked like the Ron Paul movement was losing steam. Educated guess.
Good move on the part of the Freedom Festival organizers to get Gary Johnson to speak at their fest. Keep a real Libertarian revolution moving forward. Gary Johnson is the only candidate who can do it. Johnson is pro-liberty, with a proven record, as Governor of New Mexico, of job creation and spending reduction. With more exposure, Johnson will attract the Ron Paul supporters and even some Democrats like me. Gov. Johnson will be a unifying force in
this nation’s divided, fractured and totally strung-out political landscape.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90db269bedd5f69000017Mitchie124Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:17:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90db269bedd5f69000017
Globalism kills!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90cd8eab8eaf47b000003boompaMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:14:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90cd8eab8eaf47b000003
Dr. Paul help start a movement, it may have growing pains, but it is growing. Here in Nevada we took control of the Republican Party, now the RNC with the Romney camp have set up a shadow party called Team Nevada. What a way to build trust with the Liberty camp. So who's splitting the party? Why should I vote for Mitt?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90c70ecad04e84100000aJuanleMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:12:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90c70ecad04e84100000a
"Its" not "It's"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90c3369bedd5e6600001eJuanMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:11:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90c3369bedd5e6600001e
Add a comment...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90ac06bb3f7416c000004Karen HuffmanMon, 25 Jun 2012 21:05:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90ac06bb3f7416c000004
Looking at the ones that are leading the rag tag remnant of walking wounded revolutionary soldiers, we see the divisions. Adam Kokesh an Iraq vet against the war, marijuana advocate, is shunned by the Paul's especially Jesse Benton, but he persists in carrying water for his campaign, and will lead the Veterans for Ron Paul march at the RNC. Ron Paul will not be attending that, either. Alex Jones carried water for the Paul's , but now he has been effectively put at an arms length and hasn't appeared on his Infowars show. Is Alex's radical ranting poison to Ron and Rand's campaign? The 9-11 Truth movement who support Ron Paul were effectively put at arms length when he publicly supported the government's official story but blames it on blowback, not on any inside job. So just to say a few, he or his campaign have distanced themselves and Rand Paul has too. Can you think of more factions that he has kicked to the curb? (white supremacists aside) How can he win if he is distancing himself from his own supporters?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90a2f69bedd8d6100000dnevadasmith Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:02:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90a2f69bedd8d6100000d
Throughout The Ron Paul Campaign,I always did have the feeling that I was trying to drag Ron Paul kicking and screaming into the White House. I don't pretend to know what it will be once the dust clears,but regardless,The "Internal" Ron Paul Revolution changed my Life. So To All Of The Ron Paul Revolutionitaires,
THANK YOU !http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90355eab8ea1b6a000001elmoMon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90355eab8ea1b6a000001
Ron Paul is a man without a constituency. LIke Europeans, Americans now accept without question that an economy can be successfully run from a central platform, as long as the implementation is right. So we'll demand politicians that give us what we want. In light of widespread dependence on the state, the disproving of that theorem promises to be especially painful this time around.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9032469bedd7c53000004Freedom4OurtroopsMon, 25 Jun 2012 20:32:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9032469bedd7c53000004
If Ron Paul is no longer revelvant why do are troops support him more than anybody ever...
<a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/" target="_blank">http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/</a>
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is, by far, getting more military campaign contributions than anyone else in the 2012 field.
President Obama ranks second, a review of Federal Election Commission donor records shows.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9024decad04663300000fDavid Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:29:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9024decad04663300000f
Ron Paul 2012. Nice try we are actully bigger, Good luck with the Spin though. End the Fed, Save our Laws, take your orders from our troops not your Dictator. Look at videos from around the world. If Ron Paul doesn't become the next president and we do not leave this war our troops (87% Support Ron) are going to.. well search and find out. And you people that freak out at us. If we where going away or not an issue. Why do we have so much Media coverage telling "you" that we cant win. lol
<a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/" target="_blank">http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/</a>
"Paul, who is trailing in election polls, drew the most money from Army-affiliated donors — $103,779 of his total in 630 donations. He received 356 Air Force donations totaling $56,544; 312 Navy donations totaling $68,157; and 107 Marine Corps donations totaling $14,027, according to the records.
Obama also drew most of his military donations from people affiliated with the Army, receiving $68,236 in 613 donations. He received $25,616 in 233 Air Force donations, $29,137 in 220 Navy donations and $7,052 in 90 Marine Corps donations."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90246ecad044a33000009JamesMon, 25 Jun 2012 20:28:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90246ecad044a33000009
Fucking awesome!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe901b369bedd504e000035randpaulkilledit22Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:26:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe901b369bedd504e000035
of course the Ron Paul movement is dead. Not only because he lost and is retiring, but because his son endorsed Romney and Paul said nothing for over a week. Even then, he didn't say anything about Rand (nor did the mainstream media ask him about) directly but did say he himself wouldn't endorse romney.
Unfortunately, not responding to that situation when his followers were going nuts just showed that Paul has made the 'final deal' of his career and has agreed to go quietly in to the night in exchange for Rand Paul having a place in the GOP moving forward.
The revolution will continue, but it will splinter for a time until new voices come to the forefront to organize people's passions.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9015669bedd904b000008Richard WicksMon, 25 Jun 2012 20:24:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe9015669bedd904b000008
As the government becomes more and more burdensome, and the parties just continue to ignore blatantly illegal activities of the financial system (Jon Corzine for example), and as we continue to get more and more bankrupt (national federal tax revenue is now less than 16% of federal debt) - I suspect a lot more people will begin to see the light.
I don't care about abortion, gay marriage, flag burning, school prayer, marijuana, any of that.
I care about the solvency of the nation and the Constitution because as this country goes bankrupt, the criminals in power will do *anything* to remain in power - and you can see they are already resorting to nearly anything.
We're not going back to the stupid Democraty versus Republican line. Once you realize they are the same party that only differentiate themselves between what lies they tell and what minor inignifcant "issues" they promote, you don't go back.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90109eab8ea3062000009ahainstockMon, 25 Jun 2012 20:23:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4fe90109eab8ea3062000009
What a sleezy opinion article parading as news. Foreshame, but typical.