Comments on: ATF Proposes Redefined Mental Health Rules To Infringe On Gun Rightshttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/
AmmoLand Shooting Sports NewsTue, 03 Mar 2015 20:01:27 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: ChicagoGuyhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-246970
Sat, 19 Apr 2014 06:04:24 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-246970Check the UNLIMITED privacy waiver provided by IL contract lobbyist Todd Vandermyde and the hack lawyers at NRA for Rep. Brandon Phelps HB183 carry bill:
“a waiver of the applicant’s privacy and
confidentiality rights and privileges under ALL federal and state laws…” As a bonus from Vandermyde along with Duty to Inform, the IL State Police can snoop into medical records and IRS returns, then share them with the feds!
Chris Cox & Chuck Cunningham at NRA/ILA should give their boy wonder a raise!
]]>By: Joshua Prince, Esq.http://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-238524
Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:57:50 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-238524Please do not submit form responses, as the ATF can dismiss them. The sample is great but modify it based on your own experiences and position. Further, PLEASE ask ATF to clarify that an individual, who is under 18 years of age and adjudicated or committed to mental institution should NOT be included in the prohibition of 922(g)(4). I hope to have Firearms Industry Consulting Group’s comment finalized in the next few days.
]]>By: Buckhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-238146
Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:08:54 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-238146How can a cabal of insane misfits like the BATF&E judge anyone insane . They are the most useless organization in the federal government right after the FDA .
]]>By: Ronald Chappellhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236993
Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:32:16 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236993Cheer up, The Russians made many good friends in the gulags.
]]>By: Jimhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236771
Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:12:23 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236771I would suggest using those types of regulations on the agents and the so-called leaders (not) of the ATF. These people are out of control and dream up ways to persecute the Amerikan weapon owners…. need to check out the bad boyz and see how they measure up to these so-called reasonable regulation of blind, crippled, and crazy feral agents.
]]>By: oldshooterhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236763
Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:01:28 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236763I recently took some continuing education training (an annual license requirement for most mental health and medical professionals) in the area of “Forensic Psychology” given by the leading person in the field today. One of the most striking things I learned was that we have AT BEST (almost all studies done were worse) a 40 percent accuracy rate in predicting future violence in individuals we evaluate psychologically. Flipping a coin would be more accurate! When you couple that miserable rate with the fact that the vast, vast, vast, majority of persons who suffer from a mental disorder at some time in their lives NEVER become violent or a threat to others, the perfidy of these rule changes becomes obvious. Sure, we all want to keep guns out of the hands of those who will use them to harm others, but frankly, we have no way of predicting who those people are yet. Perhaps we will in the future, but until we have a good predictive system, with a very low false positive rate, we should avoid any regulation that is based on predictions from the mental health field. I also recently watched Dr. John Lott in a panel discussion at UC Berkley, talking about the much vaunted NCICS background check system. It too, is riddled with false positive issues. In the most recent year for which we had statistics, he found that more than 72000 people were denied their right to purchase a gun based on NCICS checks, of all those (and remember, most of these situations are open and shut legal cases, in which someone tries to buy a gun, usually in front of a security camera, and swears that he is eligible in a signed document)out of 72000 cases only 44 were charged and only 13 of those were convicted. That means that better than 99 percent of those denied the ability to purchase were denied wrongfully! And that is simply a check to see if they are in a database! It isn’t particularly subjective. Imagine the false positive rate when we start relying on highly subjective medical or psychological opinions!
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Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:50:13 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236614So, if someone is really upset or distraught over a death or similar event and they own guns, would they seek out help or not for fear of losing their rights and expensive property? If not then what happens when their mental health deteriorates?
]]>By: Janekhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236520
Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:24:26 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236520How many in Congress fall short of the proposed “Redefined Mental Health Rules”?
]]>By: danhttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236515
Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:38:43 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236515quacks and now the ATF practicing medicine….both are ‘mentally ill’ and unlawful….but as this country prepares for internal strife….all laws are treated as inconvenient and bothersome by the ‘enforcers’….and many in ‘government’….imho
]]>By: JBShttp://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/atf-proposes-redefined-mental-health-rules-to-infringe-on-gun-rights/#comment-236480
Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:29:36 +0000http://ammoland.com/?p=147321#comment-236480If one looks for “mental defective” in the index to “Diagnostic Criteria from DSM-IV-TR” published by the American Psychiatric Association, there is nothing there. In other words, psychiatrists have no idea what the law is talking about! Any board, court, commission, or other lawful authority (who need have no medical training or experience and may have no requirement to follow due process of law) can deprive a citizen of a fundamental right protected by the constitution. This system is not just broken. It is fundamentally defective as it is.
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