That is the saving grace of humor, if you fail no one is laughing at you ~A. Whitney Brown

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If anyone in here is familiar with Poker or Chess Jargon.. I feel like I'm being second leveled here...

Being second leveled is someone thinking one step or level ahead of you.

Edited, Dec 28th 2007 12:00am by ChaosRook

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the value of warwolf and pallas is influenced by how their DEX gain/loss affects base dmg. plug in the numbers for your own stats to see how big an impact their DEX will have (of course, if you have the ACC to wear both, they'll negate each other).

And aim for the combination that gives the highest WSC? (if I understood that properly.)

Seems as if Pallas+Warwolf give the largest bonus to WSC, at the penalty of 8 accuracy; I'll have to give it a try. Thanks so much for the advice and insight into WSC, really makes it easy to tell what to use and what not to:D

all good for pre-CoP completion, though rajas, brutal, and homam would be nice. if you can find people to do ashu taliff with, barbarossa pants + dusk gloves/feet and turban for TP would be nice. dusk trousers would be nice if you neither go that route nor work on CoP.

edit: pick up a pole strap. it's superior to mythril+1, and they're dirt cheap on phoenix now. i held out and used mythril+1 for a long time myself, but pole strap is too cheap and good to pass up nowadays.

Oh, okay. +2% double attack didn't seem that worth it to me, but if you think it would be best, will try to upgrade to it next time I log in.

Also, yea, this is the gear set up I'm trying to make before entering in on real endgame stuff. I'm only on CoP 2-3 (my group keeps failing- only 4 of us usually), so I'm still out of reach for a swift belt. I also keep failing on the first quest of the Ashu Talif series, but I already promised to let the first pair of those pants to go to a THF friend of mine. I don't have much plans as far as endgame gear goes as the linkshell I am currently with has a fair number of people who need the same gear as me as well as have attending more events than I have. I don't really see a decent haste build in my future at the moment, so I am working toward an accuracy build over haste when I don't think its possible for me to get enough to justify the build.

I could probably get alot more acc in my gear from Pahluwan, but I really like my current build and don't really have an acc problem on most mobs I fight. I suppose upgrading to pahluwan legs would be wise and just macro in barone for jumps and WS, but I think they come from the same staging point as Amir boots, and right now, those are my current priority. Once I get the Optical Hat and Amir boots (and pick up the pole strap), I will have +69 acc from traits and gear, I believe. I've read that Accuracy Bonus II gives ~+22 acc, but it could be wrong.

Edit: On dusk gear: Let me put it this way, it took me 9 days to farm 50k gil...9 DAYS! I still can't believe I could afford to buy my Thalassocrat (I got really lucky on a lot in Dynamis). Dusk gear is ridiculously out of reach for me. So for now, I'm concentrating on whats basic, cheap, and still really useful overall. I plan to get the swift belt and those Ashu Talif pants eventually, but for now, I need good stuff to hold me over until I have those. I don't see a reason to hold out on upgrading certain pieces waiting to maybe get a few pieces of haste gear in a couple of months...

all good for pre-CoP completion, though rajas, brutal, and homam would be nice. if you can find people to do ashu taliff with, barbarossa pants + dusk gloves/feet and turban for TP would be nice. dusk trousers would be nice if you neither go that route nor work on CoP.

edit: pick up a pole strap. it's superior to mythril+1, and they're dirt cheap on phoenix now. i held out and used mythril+1 for a long time myself, but pole strap is too cheap and good to pass up nowadays.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 4:02pm by milich

To piggyback, I'd also suggest at least getting a Smart Grenade if you can't afford a Tiphia Sting. If you need gil, sell your potent belt and buy a life belt. The DoT output from both will be virtually the same, with a slight edge to Life belt in most situations. You can also sell your SFG for NQ Tarasque Mitts.. a 2 Atk loss isn't going to kill you, especially if you can turn the profit into something greater than 2 Atk.

Do not wear a Walahra Turban and Rutter Sabatons at the same time. I'd suggest wearing a Wyvern Helm until you earn your Optical hat. Even when you upgrade to Amir Boots, I wouldn't suggest using Walahra Turban until you get a Swift belt. Be sure you keep an eye on your total accuracy if you start adding in haste. You need a total of 387 accuracy to reach 85% accuracy on the highest level Greater Colibri. A 75 Hume Dragoon with 8 Polearm merits would need 35 accuracy in gear to hit that level. The same Dragoon with no polearm merits would need 49 accuracy in equipment.

Outside those few suggestions, your gear isn't bad. The upgrades we are suggesting are relatively minor when it comes to upgrading your DoT.

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Oh, okay. +2% double attack didn't seem that worth it to me, but if you think it would be best, will try to upgrade to it next time I log in.

As a 75 Drg/sam without Sea, that 2% from the Pole Strap will likely be your only source of Double Attack. That means you will get a 2% boost to your DoT. The 2 acc from your Mythril Grip +1 should give you a maximum DoT boost of 1.1% (this decreases towards 1% the closer you get to capped accuracy). The 2 str at a maximum will upgrade your DoT by 1%. That maximum assumes that you:

A) Increase your fSTR by 1 (2 strength has a 50% chance of doing nothing) B) Have such a ridiculously low strength that your fSTR prior to adding the 2 Str was 0.

A more realistic DoT increase from the 2 str (again assuming you raised fSTR by 1) would be ~.9%. So combined, the two salient features of the Mythril Grip +1 will just barely, sometimes, match the output of a Pole Strap.

P.S. Even as a Drg/War with a Brutal Earring (total DA = 15%), a Pole Strap will likely outperform a Mythril Grip +1.

Edited, Mar 30th 2008 4:17pm by ChaosRook

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Do not wear a Walahra Turban and Rutter Sabatons at the same time. I'd suggest wearing a Wyvern Helm until you earn your Optical hat. Even when you upgrade to Amir Boots, I wouldn't suggest using Walahra Turban until you get a Swift belt. Edited, Mar 30th 2008 4:02pm by ChaosRook

The only time I wear the Turban+Rutters at the same time is during Dynamis with my linkshell. Mostly, I was told to wear that set up anytime I would arrive because "any haste is better than no haste" according to the leaders. I was actually wearing wyvern helm full time before that point (later wearing my wyrm armet full time (just one less str overall)). It's just easier to deal with the entire group gearing this way...(I have 3 of my Relic so far, so I can't really complain considering one of those pieces is the armet...)

That's why I can't wait to get Optical Hat because "It's not as good, but acceptable." -.-

Edit: I prefer the SFG over the tarasque mitts mostly due to their level. I've been involved in a few lvl 50-60 assaults recently, and they are just plain nice to have in case of situations like that. Plus, they look neato.

To piggyback, I'd also suggest at least getting a Smart Grenade if you can't afford a Tiphia Sting. If you need gil, sell your potent belt and buy a life belt. The DoT output from both will be virtually the same, with a slight edge to Life belt in most situations. You can also sell your SFG for NQ Tarasque Mitts.. a 2 Atk loss isn't going to kill you, especially if you can turn the profit into something greater than 2 Atk.

all great advice (remember smart grenade is free). i can see keeping SFG for capped stuff, but the life belt advice is good.

who are the leaders of your dynamis group(:? i'm curious/nosey. they wanted you to wear rutters and w.turban at the same time? shame shame!

To piggyback, I'd also suggest at least getting a Smart Grenade if you can't afford a Tiphia Sting. If you need gil, sell your potent belt and buy a life belt. The DoT output from both will be virtually the same, with a slight edge to Life belt in most situations. You can also sell your SFG for NQ Tarasque Mitts.. a 2 Atk loss isn't going to kill you, especially if you can turn the profit into something greater than 2 Atk.

all great advice (remember smart grenade is free). i can see keeping SFG for capped stuff, but the life belt advice is good.

who are the leaders of your dynamis group(:? i'm curious/nosey. they wanted you to wear rutters and w.turban at the same time? shame shame!

I will definitely look into getting that Smart Bomb. I didn't even know it existed, so thanks a bunch for pointing it out (and Milich for re-pointing it out).

Also, I don't wish to name my leaders. I'd like to keep them anonymous since they can't really defend themselves here as far as I know. It wasn't all of the leaders, just one or two informed me of my misinformation (sarcastically as is the proper way to communicate to your linkshell mates).

Head: Wyvern Helm is a good "placeholder" piece, but be working to replace it with Optical hat, or Pahluwan Qalansuwa. Walahra Turban will be a good replacement too once you get a Swift belt.

Hands: Do not TP in Alky's. The -6 dex is decreasing your accuracy by ~5, which amounts to a loss of almost 2.5% to DoT. The 11 Str will increase your fSTR by a maximum of 3, which will be a gain of around 2.9%. That's a net gain of .4%, hardly worth it. Tarasque Mitts are a fine alternative (and cheap). Drachen Finger Gauntlets +1 are also a decent choice.

Feet: I'd work towards getting Amir Boots. Acc +6 is greater than Str +2 by a long shot.

Ear1: Bushinomimi is a fine Wheeling Thrust macro piece, but I wouldn't TP in it. Grab an Assault earring, you'll get much better returns.

Waist: Warwolf is a WS only piece. TP in a Life belt. +10 Acc > 5 Str ~4atk 5 dex ~4 acc. I did the math a while ago back when Str = Atk and Dex = Acc, and Warwolf still fell behind Life belt for TP.

Ring1: Don't TP In Str Rings! Now that I've said that, let me repeat it: Don't TP In Str Rings! That Flame ring needs to be replaced by either a Woodsman or Sniper (or any of the +1 alternatives). Ulthalam's Ring is also a good alternative. Rajas is fine though, it's not really considered a Str ring since it does offer 5 dex as well.

Ammo: As I told a previous poster, if you can't afford a Tiphia Sting, get a Smart Grenade.

Weapon: No real reason to keep your Mezraq when you can sell it and get a Thalassocrat for pretty much the same price. It's not a huge upgrade, but it is an upgrade.

Overall you are prioritizing Str way too much. You need to sac some of that str and replace it with accuracy. Against Greater Colibri, with 8 Polearm merits, you need 35 accuracy in equipment to hit 85% accuracy against them. Any less and you are treading dangerously close to sushi country. You don't want to go to Sushi country. I've been there; the weather's horrible and the people are mean.

Edited, Mar 31st 2008 10:36am by ChaosRook

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If I get to a mob an whiff Jump and first hit, I smash the Acc macro and keep it moving. Else I just leave Str set on.

I can think of a few that require full acc off the top of my head. Mostly end game though. Merit is just lolcoli which... well... you can hit naked.

I also eat meat full time (but who doesn't).

If you are meriting on G. Colibri with the gear you mentioned, you are hitting at around 82%. That's assuming you have 8 Polearm merits. You need at least 387 total accuracy to hit 85% on level 82 G. Colibri.

As an Elvaan, you have 62 base dex. If you have 8 polearm merits, you have 292 Polearm skill. You have 8 dex from gear, and 25 accuracy.

Optical hat provides a 5% bonus to hit rate, and with a base 82% hit rate, that will be a 6.1% boost to DoT. Wyvern Helm will give ~.9% increase to your DoT, we'll say an even 1% when you consider the 3-4 Attack. That's a net gain of 5.1% DoT just by switching from Wyvern Helm to Optical Hat. That's no small amount. You make the trade-offs I suggest and you'll increase your DoT by a lot more.

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That is the saving grace of humor, if you fail no one is laughing at you ~A. Whitney Brown

But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. ~Carl Sagan --- [ffxisig]135670[/ffxisig]

If you are meriting on G. Colibri with the gear you mentioned, you are hitting at around 82%. That's assuming you have 8 Polearm merits. You need at least 387 total accuracy to hit 85% on level 82 G. Colibri.

As an Elvaan, you have 62 base dex. If you have 8 polearm merits, you have 292 Polearm skill. You have 8 dex from gear, and 25 accuracy.

Optical hat provides a 5% bonus to hit rate, and with a base 82% hit rate, that will be a 6.1% boost to DoT. Wyvern Helm will give ~.9% increase to your DoT, we'll say an even 1% when you consider the 3-4 Attack. That's a net gain of 5.1% DoT just by switching from Wyvern Helm to Optical Hat. That's no small amount. You make the trade-offs I suggest and you'll increase your DoT by a lot more.

What can I say, good ****. Knowing this i will probaby just switch out my Aly Alyk's for Hydras on birds. That's like a swing of 6 Dex + 5 Acc.

I'm trying to save up for a Chivalrous Chain and, much to my embarrassment, Fencing Bracers (which don't actually look that bad, but the only issue is cost). Spear Strap purely for MP (it's cheaper than Lizard+1 IIRC, so I may sell that back!). Garrulous Ring only because there wasn't much difference between that and Puissance at the time of purchase, and I didn't already own Puissance (for 40-cap BCNM I go Venerer/Fasting anyway). Also looking at questing a Smart Grenade but I just haven't had a chance.

As far as I'm concerned it's not worth having separate TP/WS sets for a few more levels yet (correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think TP/WS pieces really surface until about 70 or so? At any rate I'm not convinced that there'd be more than a minimal impact if I did start with different gear-sets)

as above, I'm already looking at Chivalrous Chain, Fencing Bracers (though I could probably scrape by with AF) and Smart Grenade as upgrades. I would get a Wivre Mask and a new earring but for the dire state of my wallet (I decided that a Potent Belt was a higher priority*, and I'm trying to get my LS to start doing 60-cap Excavation Duty Assaults)

*The Gil/Assault Point ratio of the Potent Belt was 13:1, compared with 23:1 for Chiv Chain (multiply both sides by their items' respective Assault Point costs); I'd have been paying a lot more for an item I could get with fewer Assault Points if I'd upgraded my neck armour first. I lost 16K just putting an Archer's Ring up three times, and even after accumulating the winnings I don't want to spend more than is needed.

If it's of any use to anyone, I have 250K left for upgrades but want to avoid blowing it all on one expensive item if at all possible.

Been reading the stickies and I do plan to upgrade to another woodsman, but I'm wondering would I be better getting SFG's which are around 300k vs the 250k for woods. Figure a boost of +10ATK from CMG is better than +2ACC, but then again im no math wiz, so I could be wrong.

Been reading the stickies and I do plan to upgrade to another woodsman, but I'm wondering would I be better getting SFG's which are around 300k vs the 250k for woods. Figure a boost of +10ATK from CMG is better than +2ACC, but then again im no math wiz, so I could be wrong.

*The Gil/Assault Point ratio of the Potent Belt was 13:1, compared with 23:1 for Chiv Chain (multiply both sides by their items' respective Assault Point costs); I'd have been paying a lot more for an item I could get with fewer Assault Points if I'd upgraded my neck armour first. I lost 16K just putting an Archer's Ring up three times, and even after accumulating the winnings I don't want to spend more than is needed

sell potent belt. regardless of point/price ratios, it's pretty much ****. buy life belt. couple ACC > couple STR, especially for you. buy c.chain with the profit, and upgrade out of the worthless garrulous ring into a sniper/woodsman (follow suit with the venerer when you can).

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Been reading the stickies and I do plan to upgrade to another woodsman, but I'm wondering would I be better getting SFG's which are around 300k vs the 250k for woods. Figure a boost of +10ATK from CMG is better than +2ACC, but then again im no math wiz, so I could be wrong.

In an effort to plan/revise my gear I offer up my equip. Bear in mind that I don't have Sea or any Salvage-statics, and i've been on cop2-5 for 3 years. I usually 73drg/sam for pt's, and 73drg/blu for solo.

In an effort to plan/revise my gear I offer up my equip. Bear in mind that I don't have Sea or any Salvage-statics, and i've been on cop2-5 for 3 years. I usually 73drg/sam for pt's, and 73drg/blu for solo.

I'm defence minded while soloing. Probably to a laughable fault. I'd really like to refine my solo-set. Any help would be appreciated.

I have things like Thalassocrat, Wyvern Helm, and Walla Turban waiting for me.

Start working on Mamool Ja Assaults to get yourself some Amir Boots. The are some of the best footwear you can get outside of Homam for TP. I'd also recommend camping Ose to get an Assault Jerkin to replace your Barone Body. Another good piece to have but isnt required is a Pahluwan Khazagand. Its nice to have when fighting highly evasive mobs or for TPing in endgame events with higher level mobs. Best of all, it just takes a few weeks of assault farming and its pretty much free.

Other than that, your PT setup looks pretty solid. Once you start getting into more endgame events and get some CoP under your belt, you came make some other changes like getting a haste setup for TP and some Rare/Ex gear for WS. I don't play solo, so I'll leave that input to the experts.

At lvl 68, i'm wearing these for solo and some some pt situations. Though I do go with SFG usually in a pt which i believe is the right thing to do.

Have any other Taru drg's made use of these? (I guess that means you Bsphilar)

Yeah I guess that's pretty much just me then. Creek M Mitts are pretty **** expensive, but the Creek M Clomps are dirt cheap. I had been using them until I got my Amir Boots, but then I started doing Proto-Omega so I held off on those. As it turns out, my social LS doesn't do too hot there, so I kinda need to work on Amir again. The boots are ok, you can guarantee you raise your fSTR by 1 all the time which is nice, but I have a feeling Tabin Boots +1 might be better, I'm not too sure.

At lvl 68, i'm wearing these for solo and some some pt situations. Though I do go with SFG usually in a pt which i believe is the right thing to do.

Have any other Taru drg's made use of these? (I guess that means you Bsphilar)

Yeah I guess that's pretty much just me then. Creek M Mitts are pretty **** expensive, but the Creek M Clomps are dirt cheap. I had been using them until I got my Amir Boots, but then I started doing Proto-Omega so I held off on those. As it turns out, my social LS doesn't do too hot there, so I kinda need to work on Amir again. The boots are ok, you can guarantee you raise your fSTR by 1 all the time which is nice, but I have a feeling Tabin Boots +1 might be better, I'm not too sure.

tabin+1 are probably better, though the hands i'm not sure. if the 6STR raises fSTR twice, they probably beat SFG, if it only raises it once, SFG probably win. i'd be content to see any of those 4 pieces of equipment on a DRG if they joined a party i made though. oh, the feet are definitely superior to all competitors for jumps by the way (well, amir would be competitive, but meh).

since i needed to edit out a ridiculous typo, i'll add that amir feet soundly beat taru RSE and tabin+1 for TPing of course.

Yeah I guess that's pretty much just me then. Creek M Mitts are pretty **** expensive, but the Creek M Clomps are dirt cheap. I had been using them until I got my Amir Boots, but then I started doing Proto-Omega so I held off on those. As it turns out, my social LS doesn't do too hot there, so I kinda need to work on Amir again. The boots are ok, you can guarantee you raise your fSTR by 1 all the time which is nice, but I have a feeling Tabin Boots +1 might be better, I'm not too sure.

Us Taru DRG's are a rarity. :-/

I used Taru RSE2 hands and feet for quite a while myself, though I only used the hands for WS'ing sometimes. I stuck with SFG, then Tarasque +1, for TP'ing probably because I had a natural distaste for the RSE2 hands from leveling BLU (-35 mp, yuck).

If Homam's not an option, definitely work on Amir feet though. They're pretty much the best you can get outside of Homam.

Thanks Bsphil and Milich. I've found in my short time here I can always rely on getting an informative answer from either of you.

Thanks also to Arkanna for identifying yourself as a fellow Taru. I knew there were more of us in the woodwork.

I think i'll stick with the RSE for now as I love the + 100 HP far too much. I also wear a cassie earring while soloing and switch to an assault earring for exp. That gives me an extra 150 HP total and I still have 91mp at lvl 69 /rdm. With sanction refresh, its does me fine.

It appears people cant sing Amir boots praises enough. I'll definatley be getting a pair I reckon and perhaps look into picking up a pair of Tabin+1's in the meantime.

That's my lol---drg setup. I don't play it much, which is why I don't have a Mezraq or Amir boots and only 2 polearm merits. I mainly go for acc in my WS setup and throw in str when I can. I haven't played drg much since I started up nin and sam. It was my first job to 75 lol.

Go Go Call Wyvern 2hr days..who else remembers those?

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I got a hecatomb body last night in sky. Not sure if I should macro it in for Penta over AJ.

I'm probably the most gimp DRG to ever get that piece LOL.

Yeah I just got a Haubergeon+1..I still don't know if I'm gonna use that or continue to TP in domaru

Btw, here's a hint:

9attk -7acc and -12str is not good for Penta Thrust

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Christianity: The belief that a supernatural Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbollically eat his flesh and drink his blood and telepathically tell him he is your master. All because you're full of inherent evil because a rib woman got tricked into eating an apple from a magical tree by a talking snake.Makes perfect sense.

Total: Acc:33 Str:14 Att:82.5 Anyway, with Rajas/N.Body added in to the main WS mix, I was thinking of swapping in AJ>Heca, Sniper>Rajas, Hydra>Pallas. Giving: Total: Acc:30 Str:42 Att:82.5

Noodles, on penta I would probably go with the AJ > Heca definately, Sniper > Rajas also. The only real question is whether it is worth it to go from Hydra > Pallas. Imo, you are loosing quite a bit of acc with that one switch. If my calculations are correct you are loosing 9 acc with that one switch. At most you are getting +1 to WSC on Penta, and +2-3 on fSTR. That is a pretty big tradeoff for -5% acc rate just from that spot. You would probably see a better (meaning more consistent) return from an equip swap like hydra > spk fng gauntlets or trasque mitts.

Ironically you would probably see a better return if you left those hydra finger gauntlets on and switched to a Warwolf Belt from your life belt. You only loose 6 acc there, although you have a slight possibility of not raising WSC at all due to level correction. More than likely you get +2 to WSC and +1-2 to fSTR.

Couple things jump out at me. Mostly it's a good set up, but there are things that you really should change.

Ammo: Don't really need to change it, just realize that if you are pulling with Lamiabane, you can't use Angon. It will reset your TP to zero. If you are using Angon, I'd suggest a Tiphia Sting to swap in and out (swapping ammo will not reset TP). If you can't afford the Tiphia Sting, quest the Smart Grenade.

Neck: I'm sure this is one of the pieces you think we'll comment on, and you are right. 6 attack is a horrible replacement for 5 Acc, 3 Str. At the very least get a Chivalrous Chain. Obviously Peacock Charm is the best AH neck piece you can get. 6 Attack is raising your DoT by ~1%. Chivalrous Chain will raise your DoT by no less than 2.5%, the 3 Str has a 75% chance of raising your DoT by another ~1%.

Body: I know it can be tough to get people to help, but with your 75 Smn, you can solo Ose with little difficulty. I did it with my Rdm, and it really isn't that hard to pop him. See this post for tips on how to find his PH.

Waist: 10 Acc > 12 Attack. This is the same situation as your neck piece, just at double the strength. You are sacrificing too much accuracy in your build for minimal str/atk upgrades. You should swap in a Life Belt in this slot. Warwolf is also acceptable for WS only.

Legs: This is a spot you could sac the 4 Acc for the 14 Attack provided by Dusk Trousers. They may be expensive, but they are definitely worth it. If you can't afford Dusk, Pahluwan isn't horrible.

Feet: Don't TP in Hecatomb, ever. If you don't want to spend the time farming assaults for 20k Assault points, at least buy yourself a pair of Barone Gambieras (which, btw, are better than Askar Gambieras).

Any spot I didn't mention is fine as is. I didn't even really speak to a haste build. I think you should first focus on getting your Accuracy high enough to use meat comfortably.

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That is the saving grace of humor, if you fail no one is laughing at you ~A. Whitney Brown

But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. ~Carl Sagan --- [ffxisig]135670[/ffxisig]

Total: Acc:33 Str:14 Att:82.5 Anyway, with Rajas/N.Body added in to the main WS mix, I was thinking of swapping in AJ>Heca, Sniper>Rajas, Hydra>Pallas. Giving: Total: Acc:30 Str:42 Att:82.5

Noodles, on penta I would probably go with the AJ > Heca definately, Sniper > Rajas also. The only real question is whether it is worth it to go from Hydra > Pallas. Imo, you are loosing quite a bit of acc with that one switch. If my calculations are correct you are loosing 9 acc with that one switch. At most you are getting +1 to WSC on Penta, and +2-3 on fSTR. That is a pretty big tradeoff for -5% acc rate just from that spot. You would probably see a better (meaning more consistent) return from an equip swap like hydra > spk fng gauntlets or trasque mitts.

Ironically you would probably see a better return if you left those hydra finger gauntlets on and switched to a Warwolf Belt from your life belt. You only loose 6 acc there, although you have a slight possibility of not raising WSC at all due to level correction. More than likely you get +2 to WSC and +1-2 to fSTR.

Edit: I can't count only 9 acc lost on switch from hydra > pallas

Edited, Apr 8th 2008 4:33pm by Meldi

Yes, but what I'm interested in is if my acc will be over 90-94% with 30-35 Acc? Because with all the swaps I only lose 3Acc, even if swapping back pallas to hydra gives me a large acc boost, if most of it is lost to the acc cap, then is it worth it? How much would an 8/8 75 Mithra need to cap acc on say HQ colibri?

The ChaosRook of Doom Couple things jump out at me. Mostly it's a good set up, but there are things that you really should change.

Ammo: Don't really need to change it, just realize that if you are pulling with Lamiabane, you can't use Angon. It will reset your TP to zero. If you are using Angon, I'd suggest a Tiphia Sting to swap in and out (swapping ammo will not reset TP). If you can't afford the Tiphia Sting, quest the Smart Grenade.

Neck: I'm sure this is one of the pieces you think we'll comment on, and you are right. 6 attack is a horrible replacement for 5 Acc, 3 Str. At the very least get a Chivalrous Chain. Obviously Peacock Charm is the best AH neck piece you can get. 6 Attack is raising your DoT by ~1%. Chivalrous Chain will raise your DoT by no less than 2.5%, the 3 Str has a 75% chance of raising your DoT by another ~1%.

Waist: 10 Acc > 12 Attack. This is the same situation as your neck piece, just at double the strength. You are sacrificing too much accuracy in your build for minimal str/atk upgrades. You should swap in a Life Belt in this slot. Warwolf is also acceptable for WS only.

Legs: This is a spot you could sac the 4 Acc for the 14 Attack provided by Dusk Trousers. They may be expensive, but they are definitely worth it. If you can't afford Dusk, Pahluwan isn't horrible.

Feet: Don't TP in Hecatomb, ever. If you don't want to spend the time farming assaults for 20k Assault points, at least buy yourself a pair of Barone Gambieras (which, btw, are better than Askar Gambieras).

Any spot I didn't mention is fine as is. I didn't even really speak to a haste build. I think you should first focus on getting your Accuracy high enough to use meat comfortably.

Ammo: I have angons I use them some times. I normally duo and am puller so I leave it on pretty much full time. or I am the main puller in nysule so again full time.

Neck: I go with this because of how little I fight mobs that con higher than touch. I find myself often at 85% and the regen ontop of my barone body means pretty much a 4 p regen no matter where I go. now that I have brutal I might get a chiv chain just so no more 99% tp

Body: killing isn't the issue getting drop is. so at this point I dont have enough sanity left to get it and I'll just use my pretty body till askar body

Waist: I have a life belt with me full time and its always the second piece of gear I swap out if I miss anything more than a couple times.

Legs: your kinda just nit picking here

feet: I know I hate them too. but I have them. and I dont have 450k for barone feet, so for free gear that I had lieing around they will do until rutter mangage to drop, I come into gil, or I get my askar.

All the advice I gave you was good advice for party play where you are fighting VT and above. If you are mainly soloing or doing small man stuff on EM-T, then that's a completely different story. Do what you want with your gear in that case.

To be honest, I'm not sure why you posted your gear if you aren't willing to change anything in it. Kinda wasting everyone's time.

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