And, Duffy, F.O.R. and I agreed that Blue October is actually not that distant a cousin of The Frames, much to my surprise, at least the first couple songs of their set had a certain Frames feel to them.

_________________if I had the time or desire I would post a pic of Blair from Facts of Life and 1990 era Chip to produce the same effect

Right. The first coupla songs reminded me of The Frames, especially the intonation of the vox. But then it all fell apart when they started getting heavy and screaming. Nothing ruins a mellow rock show like a Paul Reed Smith.