EF-S 60mm is unlikely (note I said "unlikely", not "impossible") to be remade any time soon as it's never been a particularly big-seller and they probably wouldn't make their money back on the R&D. The 180mm is in a similar situation. The two 100mm macros dominate in sales as far as Canon macros go, by such a degree it's a wonder that Canon keep making the 60 and 180 at all.(Inb4 someone with no sense of perspective says "but I use it, so it must be a big deal!")

It's also entirely possible that the flower shooting crowd is being steamrolled by the (things made with) flour crowd. The wider 28/35 crop macro lenses Canon put out recently was a very savvy move to gobble the burgeoning instagram food photography phenomenon.

EF-S 60mm is unlikely (note I said "unlikely", not "impossible") to be remade any time soon as it's never been a particularly big-seller and they probably wouldn't make their money back on the R&D. The 180mm is in a similar situation. The two 100mm macros dominate in sales as far as Canon macros go, by such a degree it's a wonder that Canon keep making the 60 and 180 at all.

FWIW, the 100/2.8L IS is ranked #54 on Amazon.com currently, the EF-S 60/2.8 is at #69, and the 100/2.8 USM is at #202. That seems inconsistent with your highlighted statement above, and I'm curious as to the basis for your statement.

i'd be willing to bet (and also really really hope) that one of the lenses will be an EF-M lens IF they also launch the M50 it would make sense to combine these 2

Ahhh, but what EF-M lens?

yeees...the million $ question...some time ago an 85 1.8 (or something similar) was rumored for the M mount. now, this would make sense somehow AND IF it comes out and also covers the full frame image circle it would also confirm that the new FF mirrorless will have an M mount (kick in the n...teeth for adapter haters )

another option may be one of the patents we've seen released recently (a realistic one) in a zoom lens

i'm honestly hoping for either an ef-s 15-85 equivalent, or a high quality constant aperture standard zoom lens (maybe a 17-55 equivalent or wider or a 16-70 f/4 like sony have for the crop sensors)

"What I have found odd is the EOS M50 being called the “Kiss M” in certification. I don’t recall any other EOS M camera getting the KISS designation in Japan. It could be something, it’s probably nothing."

- CR Guy

Potentially, that's a very big deal.

If mirrorless is going to retire almost all of the SLRs someday (other than the most demanding product lines), an 'overlap generation' like a Rebel SLR and Rebel mirrorless sold side by side makes a ton of sense.

that theory was debunked the first time this came up. it's shipping with EF-M lenses, so it's not some type of crossover system.

I think you missed the point. Yes, it's an EOS M camera and part of the current M lineup, taking EF-M lenses. But the name is important. 'Kiss' is the Japanese equivalent of the North American designation, 'Rebel' – the nameplate for the entry-level SLRs, and later for entry-level dSLRs. If Canon is applying the Kiss moniker to an EOS M camera, that indicates they're 'mainstreaming' the M platform, at least in Japan (where it would make sense to do that, initially).

"What I have found odd is the EOS M50 being called the “Kiss M” in certification. I don’t recall any other EOS M camera getting the KISS designation in Japan. It could be something, it’s probably nothing."

- CR Guy

Potentially, that's a very big deal.

If mirrorless is going to retire almost all of the SLRs someday (other than the most demanding product lines), an 'overlap generation' like a Rebel SLR and Rebel mirrorless sold side by side makes a ton of sense.

that theory was debunked the first time this came up. it's shipping with EF-M lenses, so it's not some type of crossover system.

I think you missed the point. Yes, it's an EOS M camera and part of the current M lineup, taking EF-M lenses. But the name is important. 'Kiss' is the Japanese equivalent of the North American designation, 'Rebel' – the nameplate for the entry-level SLRs, and later for entry-level dSLRs. If Canon is applying the Kiss moniker to an EOS M camera, that indicates they're 'mainstreaming' the M platform, at least in Japan (where it would make sense to do that, initially).

or you're reading too much into naming conventions.

Canon's branding startegy with the Rebel/Kiss monikers is pretty clear. But either way, you still missed ahsanford's point.

The release of an EF-M 32mm f/0.9 IS USM would surely make mr Sandford switch from a 5DmkIII to an EOS M50!

Or angry.

The release of an EF-M 55mm f/1.8 would make me interested in the crop mirrorless line.

I wouldn't be angry, no. Offering what any system should have -- a sharp, quick all-purpose autofocusing 50mm (FF-equivalent) prime -- is a good thing. If such a lens happens, awesome for EF-M users -- honestly.

But I just don't think Canon will put a out a screamingly fast smaller-than-FF-mount-only standard prime like Olympus or Fuji might do, as Canon has made it clear that they'd rather reserve such glass for FF mount use, they'd rather dis-incentivize people to stay in crop / not go to FF, etc.