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(10-27-10 latest edit) This is still being edited. It will change until I am finished with this summing up article.

The first question in the Catholic catechism is: "What is God?". The answer = God is everything. That will do for me. The real question is, "What part of God are we". The answer = the parts that create and move life forms around.

While most of you will agree that you have a soul, few of you actually ask what that implies scientifically = for real = objectively. You act as though creating and moving our life forms around is on automatic pilot. That "God" will provide.

In one sense that is true. God does act to create our continued existence when we do the acting. Life ain't free, so maintaining life on Earth is completely up to us, my fellow parts of God.

Some definitions:

Objective = We can each verify a stated fact with our properly operating sensory apparatus. e.g. We agree we can see the words written on this page. Therefore it takes at least two of us to create an objective fact.

Science is based upon objective facts. Ergo,
it takes at least two of us to do science. In real science the "objective facts" determine outcomes, not you get to tell others what you, your holy book, or some guru states is true. Science and true honest public government demands you report what you actually saw and measured. "Just the facts mam, just the facts." Jack Webb dragnet.

What is a Spirit? = the physical geometric energy form that causes our Life Forms to move. We will answer the question, "What geometry are our spirits based upon?", after we answer the next question.

"How can a spirit have dominion over inanimate matter?"
We have to control matter to animate it. We must assemble and organize it into our life forms. Notice when a spirit leaves its life form either through unconsciousness or death, our body drops like a stone.

Answer: We can make a hole. We split matter into plus and minus halves.

The plus matter part triggers action in our brains = causes a neuron to fire. There are some neat sensory deprivation tank experiments that confirm this. All of a sudden an imaginary itch occurs in the subjects nose and with no sensory input, a nerve cascade starts up in the cerebral cortex, then goes down to trigger the motor neurons and the nose is scratched.

The big question is, "What about that minus piece of matter, the opposite of the plus piece = Anti-Matter, that our present fundamental physics theories require must balance off all plus matter particles?". Big discrepancy, so "Where is the A-M piece??". Answering that question is the clue to deducing what our spirits geometry must be, and thus our universes basic geometry, as we are chips off the basic block.

The real question is what frequencies to look for? These can be deduced from how we mathematically describe a Moebius strip from its intrinsic geometric origin. An equation that requires a new mathematical operation, a new way of expanding how we model reality mathematically. See Equation log.

Note I have not given more evidences of the fact we spirits create and build bodies to trot. The objective evidence described above is complete for anyone who wants to see. Religious text and the vast mass of ghost etc reports are unnecessary, as without a conscious spirit, the body does not move.

Why we have a conservation debt?

One objective implication is that for life to exist in a conserved universe, then the universe must show clear evidences of expanding?

Conservation = when we start with some amount of energy and matter; then after all the slicing and dicing, we end up with the starting amount. Matter & Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

Now that is a conundrum, an expanding universe yet every test we do at a local level confirms conservation is true. How is that possible?

Luckily for us, there is a geometry that permits this seeming contradiction to occur while maintaining local conservation everywhere. A Moebius Strip geometry. It can sub-divide and expand to infinity while all higher generations of Ms remain linked through the same original hole of the beginning Moebius.
10-19-10 But dividing to infinity while maintaining local conservation implies three things;

1. the spirit, the Moebius can be split an infinite number of times = something is getting thinner and thinner; and

2. energy input = an infinite supply of 3-d space to expand into that feeds the expansion; so with no take backs; means

3. we use up = eat a point in 3-d space and leave nothing = feeds expansion.

Raises question "How do we handle time?".

Which brings us back to our Anti-Matter conservation debt.

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Our leaders and thus most of you will not seek the truth about our real place in the universe. Why is explained by ignorance and self service. Until our society openly deals with this easy to resolve scientific disagreement, I must conclude we will not act to prevent Earth from being vaporized.These links deal directly with How to Prevent our Sun from exploding.

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