Vader,Vital Remains....new DM????? Vader is one of the oldest,still existing, DM bands. Their first album is from '92. And their demo's are even older. Vital Remains exists also since the late eighties/early nineties.

Yes, but Morbid Angel is formed in 1983. Death in 1984.
Yas Vader is formed in 1986 or maybe 1987, I am not sure, Vital Remains in 1989... and so on
Anyway I meant on sound and not on how long some band exist, you can't compare Morbid Angel's sound with Vital Remain's, not to mention Amon Amarth, The Crown, or some bands from new wave of Swedish Death Metal

There is one great Death Metal band from Holland I like, Thanatos. that is kind of Death Metal I like. But I don't like bands like God Dethroned or Shadowbreed, that is what I meant

I much prefer old school death metal, but the early 90s had quite a few good releases by bands that continued on from the 80s. The lines of death/black/thrash in the 80s were a lot more blurred than they are today. Today you can say "That's black. That's death. That's thrash." etc but it was more of a mix of all styles back when it was emerging.

[QUOTE=Lord Abbath;4252446]anyone who thinks that death metal doesnt require talent needs there brain checked out. the musicians in death are some of the most talented in the world!!!
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This is true. Many think that death metal doesnt require talent. Some of those same people would think the same about black metal. But the fact is that both are just styles of music, and both require talent.

Most Death metal bands aren`t even satanists, Bands like Belphegor are Atheists, they just use Satanic concepts in their music. There is a lot of talent in Death metal, Satanism is just a concept in most death metal. I think Glen Benton from Deicide is a moron though, who actually takes Satanism seriously thinks that Satan talks to him. I also think some death metal bands take it a little too far are there are many sub genres that branch off Death metal which I don't necessarily like.

Does anyone remember the Christian Identity DM band from Vegas called Stronghold? I used to have their demo, but don't know what happened to it. I remember that it great stuff though. If anyone has it, or can send me some mp3's that would be great....