Yeah I considered that after reading a bunch of Sumerian literature. What if Enki is the good guy, Enil and co are the bad guys. Enil in power before
was vengeful god. Enki/ Marduk and family after were noble lovers of humanity. I guess, it would make sense for the greatest deception to come from
the supposed greatest good.

The greatest good would be persecuted and demonized. Makes sense if you put things to the maxim of their possible expression in the story.

I don't believe the devil would sell out. I believe he is just of equal intelligence as a destroyer and has to match the intelligence of the creator.

A bit off topic, but I just wanted to mention that I do believe that Bob Dylan is probably the only person who used the devil for a good cause. Dylan
admitted that he sold his soul to the devil, yet I believe that he did this in order to gain the noteriety he needed to spread his anti-war message.
We already know of several musicians that have probably sold their soul for fame and money, yet they have perpetually spread the same anti-moral
message. Dylan is the only one who has admitted to selling his soul and still managed to stay on the side of the good and tried to communicate a
message that was anti-satantic in nature. So, food for thought. I give Dylan a lot of respect for at least trying to change the world for the better
while sacrificing himself in the name of a worthwhile cause.

What if this entire existence is just them working things out. When all is said and done, neither is really mad at the other......

The devil is not jealous of us, we are just an expression of god's love of the inferior. The devil is the expression of ultimate perfection being
imperfect in its exclusion of everything else.

Dear casenately,

What if this entire existence is us working it out with the Devil, proving we are capable of managing ourselves without his direction or leadership?
As for the Devil, I see him far from being perfect, pure perhaps; but, perfection is eternal growth and he doesn't seem to have grown at all, that is
the problem with pure emotions be they love, hate or anything else, there is no where to go when purity is seen as perfection, it would mean that
perfection is stagnation and I don't believe it is. Peace and best wishes.

what if the devil does his repentance from a position of victory, and before the decisive blow, he repents because he can't destroy the most
beautiful thing ever, he can't destroy himself that way. He was just seeking an end because he thought his sin was unforgivable. He learns that his
sin was not for his betrayal, rather it was his lack of repentance.

He then saves the light. and casts down all darkness once and for all, in fulfillment of his purpose, finally as the greatest of the angels once
again. To end evil.

???

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Interesting idea

Lucifer=Anakin Skywalker

Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful jedi but he was weak minded pawn, yes in the end he redeemed himself, but for all his power he lack
understanding and was thus easily manipulated by the Dark Lord who took his fears to play everyone a fool.
The Emperor is for sure the devil in gods cloths Darth Vader is just his lackey to go handle the dirty stuff but the Dark Lord was solely driven by a
blind quest for power not that hard to read through honestly

Now the Joker is a real Devil hes not in it for material gains or power and control Hes just an agent of chaos

The Joker: I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this city with a few drums of gas and a
couple of bullets. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying!
If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all
"part of the plan". But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!

Its all a joke to the joker that is his whole point
My favorite movie villain is the Joker forsure he gets it and uses this knowledge to full effect on everyone playing their game he just want a worthy
adversary he finds it in Batman cause this dude wont kill him sure the joker could kill Batman but once he understands that batman wont kill him he
finds the one thing he really wants someone who brings out the his best or worst if you would

not even Batman got it in the "Dark Knight" Alfred had to game him up

Bruce Wayne: Targeting me won't get their money back. I knew the mob wouldn't go down without a fight, but this is different. They crossed the line.

Alfred Pennyworth: You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed them, you hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they
turned to a man they didn't fully understand.

Bruce Wayne: Criminals aren't complicated, Alfred. Just have to figure out what he's after.

Alfred Pennyworth: With respect, sir, perhaps this is a man that *you* don't fully understand, either. A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends
and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their
caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in three months, we never met anybody who
traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away. Bruce Wayne: So why steal
them? Alfred Pennyworth: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be
bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

His only true motivation is to defeat you Its like Patton and Rommel in WW2
Patton would have shoot Hitler without hesitating,
But he would never have done that to Rommel His heaven was fighting a battle against

most people look for answers that suits them best
should know how easily such fools are made to fall into darkness
By blinding themselves all along the way becoming the eye for the blind that leads them
For if this fool where ever ask what is the devils greatest trick
they will answer you aback
"He tricks them by making people believe the devil doesn't exist"
You will know instantly that they are more foolish, for this is the devil second trick
That they think those unbelievers the devil has deceived,
Rather by this it can only manipulate those that don't believe
But unknowingly it is themselves who fall deceived
because only those that do believe can be ever themselves actually said to be deceived.
For that forever blind their will from soul. like a thought without a mind
For this is the devils greatest trick, of making those who believe, think it is god

Consider the possibility that the "entity" you call the Devil is not evil... hes
simply doing the job he was assigned...

Maybe but ill JC words on fire

Fuentes: You know, I-I'm a professional. Creasy: That's what everybody keeps saying. "I'm just a professional". Everybody keeps saying that to
me. "I'm just a professional", "I'm just a professional". I'm getting sick and tired of hearing that.

Cause if its their Job this is mine even the devil must have a devil after it

Elderly Man: "In the church, they say to forgive." Creasy: " Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting."

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