Minotaurus - a human body with a bovine head, mindless monster created to guard a Greek labyrinth.

Tauren - a race of literally walking cows, peaceful and tranquil creatures that respect nature, with the art and architecture of Native Americans.

You may disagree, but then you'd just be wrong. All they have in common is horns.

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Werewolves are a classic part of the mythology of various cultures of Europe for thousands of years.

No dude twilight invented them, they are a modern day phenomenon.
Human/Animal Hybrids are indeed a new concept that has never been seen before and Pandas are the MOST ridiculous of ALL the animals, mop is an abomination.

I figh for the hate I feel for my ravaged lands and my murdered heroes, I fight for the lust of revenge and the desire to shed the blood of my enemies until the rivers run red with it, I fight in the name of the Light and with the forces of the elements to resolve unquenchable blood feuds with this alliance that is the Horde.

You fight to contradict yourself? Perhaps if mindless zealotry is your thing, you ought to join the Scarlet Crusade. We all know who was pulling their strings.

Go back to your Mists and take care of your evil spirits problems, the rest of the world is at war with its own past, and will be forevermore.

Until the Legion grinds them into the dirt because the hatred is so strong they refuse to come together ever again, like they did even in the Third War.
A disastrous end to the story.

War and peace are two sides of the same coin. War without peace isn't war, it's just mindless bloodshed. War implies something to be fought for, something to be won. In my opinion, the Pandaren fit perfectly in the World of Warcraft, because they represent the other side of the coin. There has been nothing but war up to this point - war between the factions, war with the Burning Legion, war with the Lich King, war with Deathwing, so on. The Pandaren are introducing peace to that equation, but even they are getting caught up in the war between the factions, being forced to choose sides.

totally agree with this. That's the main reason of why I like this expansionso much.
I was kinda tired of continuos dark, gritty places and the sensation of this ongoing and continuos "have to save the world" thing.

Not that I want to be "continuosly" peaceful, but there must need a moment of peace and calm at some point.
Pandaren fit nicely in a world full of animalistic races (Tauren, Furbolg, Draenei, Naga, and so on.)

And I never understood the "was a joke" reasoning, it kinda bugs me
It's like I make a joke wanting to be a medic and then in the future decide to actually follow the profession and having people coming at me "OH COME ON MAN, YOU JOKED ON IT 5 YEARS AGO, YOU CAN'T BE MEDIC NOW"

No, I live in a big and smelly city. It's just that I am fond of the constant destruction that has been happening in this game. The constant threat of invasion or the end of the world. This change of pace is just not to my liking, that's all. I hope the future brings more of the things I enjoy.

Okay. I think the farms a nice break from the fact everthing is trying to kill you in Pandaria (including in several cases certian sections of floor). On the farm the only thing trying to kill you is hawks, deranged-rabbit-man-things, and on occasion your own crops. What were we talking about again?

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

If Blizzard had wanted to make agame apart, or integrate them into Titan, I would have had no problem with the existence of pandaren and their lore.

But their endless stream of peaceful, happy drinking Starfleet explorers atmosphere is totally out of Warcraft context.

I come back every expansion to hate something and to WAR, not to solve problems about evil spirits and find reasons about what is worth fighting for.

I figh for the hate I feel for my ravaged lands and my murdered heroes, I fight for the lust of revenge and the desire to shed the blood of my enemies until the rivers run red with it, I fight in the name of the Light and with the forces of the elements to resolve unquenchable blood feuds with this alliance that is the Horde.

I fight for Jaina Proudmoore and Theramore, I fight for Vrynn and his past suffering, I fight for Lothar, for Alleria, for Dannath, for Uther.

Pandaren, you're a wonderful and fresh race, but this conflict is beyond you, and you simply do not share the fury of our races nor will you ever understand it.

You will never understand the joy I feel when I slash a blood elf in two or cleave an orc's head off his shoulders. That is the real war.

Go back to your Mists and take care of your evil spirits problems, the rest of the world is at war with its own past, and will be forevermore.

Garrosh has seen to that.

You fight because you are a psychotic racist (in game)? You aren´t looking at why the pandarans are peaceful if this is all you base your reasons on.

"Only Jack can zip up."
The word you want to use is "have" not "of".
You may have alot of stuff in your country, but we got Lolland.

if the pandaren haters were grummles i think there names would be burning crusade box O-O

"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

pandaran were specifically made for world of warcraft. this entire expansion has been based off a pandaran character that made it's debut in Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne.

Yeah.. And again.. He was a gimmick. There were quite some people that liked this panda stuff.. And that's the only reason Blizzard implemented them. They don't fit into Warcraft. At all. They do not deliver the basics of Warcraft. And that is war, not peaceful drinking sessions with an evil spirit every now and again...

Yeah.. And again.. He was a gimmick. There were quite some people that liked this panda stuff.. And that's the only reason Blizzard implemented them. They don't fit into Warcraft. At all. They do not deliver the basics of Warcraft. And that is war, not peaceful drinking sessions with an evil spirit every now and again...

Get used to it. Every game and gaming company does something, or implements a new feature into a game that people don't like. Guess what though? You'll keep on playing, and that's all that matters to Blizzard. This isn't a new theme, though. I remember when TBC was announced, and people were flipping out over the fact that Draenei and Blood Elves were being added. So this is nothing new. Just deal with it, or go play something else.

Yeah.. And again.. He was a gimmick. There were quite some people that liked this panda stuff.. And that's the only reason Blizzard implemented them. They don't fit into Warcraft. At all. They do not deliver the basics of Warcraft. And that is war, not peaceful drinking sessions with an evil spirit every now and again...

There I fixed it for you blizz fanboy. Yup an entire expansion based around an in-joke, that's how much blizzard insult your intelligence, and it works.

The race first appeared through a joke. That doesn't make the entire race a joke. Metzen himself said at the latest Blizzcon that the Pandaren have been the most requested and asked for race in World of Warcraft for a long time, and the Pandaren were planned to be the new Alliance race in Burning Crusade initially.

You see the race as a joke. The creators of the race don't agree with you.

Being called foolhardy just means regrets and limits won't ever stop you.

They were, and it took a bit of adapting for anyone I believe to finally feel like they "fit in" for everyone that played Warcraft I, II or III. But eventually people got used to them. Same thing with the space-goats. It took a bit of adapting to get used to the idea of them, especially since their entire lore got retconned into oblivion. I guess it helped that the female character models were pleasant to look at.

Worgen were ... ugh. I don't know. To me it STILL feels iffy to look at them. I just don't like furries... at all. Other people do, but I personally don't. And pandaren are several notches further and are very hard for me to take them serious. I admit I cringe everytime I see them, especially the female models which remind me too much of Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers.