Man, you don't read or are you just having a bad day and you'd like to pick a fight with me, again? I said I think my shoes are done (or getting close to being done) because I slide quite a lot, and the area nearby my toes don't have anymore tread left.

No, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

When the tread is worn off a shoe in a high wear spot the grip can go up. Hence why I asked. Maybe you prefer the known level of grip you have on newer soles and even an increase is not ideal for you.

Now, as long as the type of rubber still remaining is the same and you haven't worn through to a completely different type of material - all things being equal the grip should increase in dry conditions on flat surfaces (i.e. hard courts).

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Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Anyway, do you have anything positive to contribute to the discussion?

Yup that's just an estimate given that I put a hole right through to my socks in the toe section of CB 3.3s inside 30 hours. Maybe would be more like like 8 matches for Vapors, but it's no wonder I only buy discounted 6 month warranty shoes. A couple of my close friends are strong open level players so I'm continually tearing around court trying to catch up to their shots. Plus I drag on my backhand and serve.

I wish I could justify wearing Vapors, they sound like very comfortable, light and stable shoes.

They are. And I don't think I'm that rough on my shoes anymore, at least not after hearing from you.

If I stay with just one pair of V8, they'll last me about 1 and a half month, 2months at most. And I do play a lot.

Hey bud. They are close to toast, but if you still have full traction I'd consider keep using them for another few hours apiece. Or you could just send them in to Goodwill and begin with your stash of V9s (I think that was you, if so you'll enjoy having shoes with ventilation) First sign of abnormal slippage though, I'd trash them or pass them on.

Hey bud. They are close to toast, but if you still have full traction I'd consider keep using them for another few hours apiece. Or you could just send them in to Goodwill and begin with your stash of V9s (I think that was you, if so you'll enjoy having shoes with ventilation) First sign of abnormal slippage though, I'd trash them or pass them on.

Hey bud. They are close to toast, but if you still have full traction I'd consider keep using them for another few hours apiece. Or you could just send them in to Goodwill and begin with your stash of V9s (I think that was you, if so you'll enjoy having shoes with ventilation) First sign of abnormal slippage though, I'd trash them or pass them on.

"Close to toast" is my initial assessment, just wanted more feedback.

And I decided to not push my luck with these and dig into my stash of Vapor 9s.

Do you guys all play on hard courts??
I play on clay myself throughout the season, and my soles don't look anywhere near that condition even after a year
I guess playing on hard courts is more expensive concerning shoes and balls...
Although it is probably more fun than clay!!

^More fun than clay... Not in my opinion. Used to play on clay, now on hard courts, and clay is much funnier IMO. The sliding, the drop shots, I really find it fun when it's well maintained. And clay is pretty terrible on balls too.

Personally, I switch when my knees say "no more", or when the outer heel is bare. I'm not that hard on my shoes, but cushioning is important for me and when it's gone I change shoes. I waited for too long with my previous pair, and sometimes my knees recall me of it. Next time it'll be Yonex I guess.