Meeting was called to order by Chairman Parnes at about 7:35 pm. The
Minutes from September 10, 2013, was approved as amended to clarify the
comments from Commissioners Zimmerman and Thiel.

Note Taker: Kevin Morse

Main Topics Discussed

Report from the Board Transportation Committee (BTC) meeting on
September 17, 2013 meeting about the Continuation of Countywide Dialogue
on Transportation Public Outreach

Tom Biesiadny, Director, Fairfax County Department of Transportation
(FCDOT), provided a summary on the BTC meeting. The Board of Supervisor
(BOS) accepted the proposed four community meetings, emphasized that the
Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) is only one of the many factors of project
prioritization, and the restrictions on how the funding can be used on
projects.

Mr. Biesiadny went over the changes in his presentation based on the
comments from the Board and the TAC. Commissioner Zimmerman asked about
the difference between the funded and unfunded lists. Mr. Biesiadny
replied that the funded list was approved and fully committed by the
Board. The unfunded list is the list of projects that is being analyzed
and will need public inputs.

Todd Wigglesworth explained in detail the funded and unfunded maps with
activity center, elderly, disable, economic disadvantage population,
etc., as suggested by the TAC. These maps will become available online at
a later time.

Vice Chair Madden asked for the difference between activity centers
versus business centers. Mr. Biesiadny replied that staff needs to use
the term consistently at these public meetings. The presentation for the
public meeting will be a shorter, easy to understand version with less
technical details. There was a discussion about qualitative versus
quantitative analysis on the CBA.

Vice Chair Madden stated that we need to explain to the public that they
are not being asked to solve the deficit of $79 million, but to help with
the selection of projects to better serve Fairfax County. Chairman Parnes
emphasized that we need to be clear that this time we are not asking the
public for more revenues (not to raise taxes).

Commissioner Zimmerman and Vice Chair Madden suggested changing the
names of “funded” and “unfunded” list to “approved” and “proposed” list.
Chairman Parnes suggested having the details of each “unfunded” or
“proposed” project available online.

Mr. Biesiadny went over the detail of the CBA list and pointed out the
newly added projects which still need additional analyses. The project
list can be sorted by district, mode, score, etc. There was a discussion
about the scoring system and how to best display it to the public.

Commissioner Morse questioned about the low score of the Braddock Road
at Route 123 project. Mr. Biesiadny replied that due to the high cost for
this project, it affects the score.

There was a discussion about the total unfunded project list, which is
about $4 billion, and the public is asking to identify projects for the
estimate $1.2 billion available funding (through FY 2020). The TAC
suggested making this point clear to the public to avoid possible
confusions.

General discussion about how to take public comment perused the previous
discussion. Mr. Wigglesworth proposed that the public should put star
stickers next to the projects of their choice. Discussion about
Supervisor District versus Planning District was brought up by Chair
Parnes. Mr. Biesiadny stated that the voting is not a scientific process.
People can attend the public meetings to select their projects on the
survey; or do the online survey.

Draft Guiding Principles

Mr. Biesiadny stated that the Board has guiding principles on
transportation policy on the Comprehensive Plan; last update was on
February 2013. He stated that it was not a major rewrite of the policy.
This covers most of Vice Chair Madden’s proposed guiding principles. Two
principles in Vice Chair Madden’s document that were not in the
Comprehensive Plan: the health benefits and innovative technologies.

Mr. Biesiadny stated that we will use the transportation policy
objectives, which was approved by the Board, to formulate the discussion
at the public meeting instead of creating a new list of objectives.

Commissioner Zimmerman and Vice Chair Madden were tasked to compare the
two documents and report their findings. All TAC members were urged to
read through the two documents.

Vice Chair Madden brought up the “road diet” issue. Mr. Biesiadny
replied that the bike lane issue will be looked at for the unfunded
projects.

There will be no meeting on October 1, 2013. The extended TAC will be
sent a “thank you” letter for their participation, and with final package
for public meetings. They will be invited to join the TAC at the November
19 meeting to hear the result of the public meetings.

Chairman Parnes advised each TAC member to contact their district
council on transportation for their feedback.

Mr. Wigglesworth advised not to fixate on the $4 billion total, but to
prioritize by on the important of the projects. Mr. Biesiadny explained
the “6-year plan” issue. Commissioner Pimley asked about the number of
round-about projects. Mr. Biesiadny replied that there are two
round-about projects.

Commissioner Morse asked where the projects came from; Mr. Biesiadny
replied that they came from various sources like Supervisors, the public,
etc. Some projects are good candidate for the NTVA funding, and all of
them need to be analyzed.

Vice Chair Madden stated that there are few transit projects on the
list. Mr. Biesiadny stated that those transit projects on the list are
those that can be implemented within the 6-year period.

The next meeting is October 15, 2013.

Other Business: N/A

Topics for Future Meetings:

• October 15, 2013: Momentum: The Next Generation of Metro and the
projected loading statistics for the Dulles Metrorail Silver Line - Shyam
Kannan and Gregory Potts (WMATA)
• November 19, 2013: Fairfax Area Mobility & Transportation Options
Survey for Older Adults and People with Disabilities – Steve Jaffe
(Arlington County) and Jill Clark (DFS)
• December 17, 2013: Route 1 Transit Center Study – Caijun Luo,
FCDOT
• January 21, 2013: Columbia Pike Street Car Line Progress (and
additional possible candidates)
• Countywide Transit Network Study – Summer 2014
• CTB Determination of Corridor of Statewide Importance through
Loudoun/Prince William Counties
• Comprehensive Plan staff and Planning Commission discussions with TAC
on what their vision is for future development and any changes in
planning and zoning guidelines that may be needed to account for future
work environment given the pace and impacts of technology advances
(including guest speaker to explain impact of self-driving/smart cars,
buses and trucks on traffic, roadways and intersections).