Submitter seems to have skipped Article VI, Section XII, which says "those who provide taxation without representation" are not allowed to be president, and "the Founding Fathers are rolling in their grave at the sight of this Taxbongo".

Mike_LowELL:Submitter seems to have skipped Article VI, Section XII, which says "those who provide taxation without representation" are not allowed to be president, and "the Founding Fathers are rolling in their grave at the sight of this Taxbongo".

Mike_LowELL:Submitter seems to have skipped Article VI, Section XII, which says "those who provide taxation without representation" are not allowed to be president, and "the Founding Fathers are rolling in their grave at the sight of this Taxbongo".

I thought you were crazy, then I went to a constitution website, used CTRL-F and entered "Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves at the sight of this Taxbongo" and... there it was.

I_Am_Weasel:Mike_LowELL: Submitter seems to have skipped Article VI, Section XII, which says "those who provide taxation without representation" are not allowed to be president, and "the Founding Fathers are rolling in their grave at the sight of this Taxbongo".

I thought you were crazy, then I went to a constitution website, used CTRL-F and entered "Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves at the sight of this Taxbongo" and... there it was.

I thought the impeachment against Clinton was bs. however I would not have wanted a Rmoney presidency but if he banned any firearms by executive order, I would not be sad to see him impeached and convicted.

Whiskey Pete:I_Am_Weasel: Mike_LowELL: Submitter seems to have skipped Article VI, Section XII, which says "those who provide taxation without representation" are not allowed to be president, and "the Founding Fathers are rolling in their grave at the sight of this Taxbongo".

I thought you were crazy, then I went to a constitution website, used CTRL-F and entered "Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves at the sight of this Taxbongo" and... there it was.

Bigdogdaddy:I thought the impeachment against Clinton was bs. however I would not have wanted a Rmoney presidency but if he banned any firearms by executive order, I would not be sad to see him impeached and convicted.

The party that are "physical conservatives" are going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars by forcing a senate trial that can't possibly go anywhere because it's initiated only because they don't like him.

Speaking of both Presidents who have had Articles of Impeachment passed against them: Interestingly, both presidents were Democrats and, in both cases, impeachment proceedings were initiated by a Republican-controlled House in a highly-polarized political environment.

d23:The party that are "physical conservatives" are going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars by forcing a senate trial that can't possibly go anywhere because it's initiated only because they don't like him.

Stop calling the GOP conservative. It's total bullshiat.

Eh. It won't even get that far; without some actual wrongdoing (even though the investigation was politically motivated bullshiat, Clinton did commit perjury) they'll never get enough Democrats to reach the two-thirds vote requirement for articles of impeachment.

thurstonxhowell:Speaking of both Presidents who have had Articles of Impeachment passed against them: Interestingly, both presidents were Democrats and, in both cases, impeachment proceedings were initiated by a Republican-controlled House in a highly-polarized political environment.

Interesting, but not surprising.

You realize that the ideologies of the parties have basically switched since then, right? I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to besmirch the name of the GOP every minute of every day and from every corner of this country, but your statement - it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

I'm glad Alex Jones got the ball rolling on this. Now the media can stop talk about Grover Norquist setting the agenda for the Rederplicans and start talking about this raving lunatic setting the agenda for them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld:Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

BraveNewCheneyWorld:Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

BraveNewCheneyWorld:Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Would you prefer that we listen to Wayne Lapierre when he tell us gun owners cannot be trusted to follow gun laws and that they pose such a grave threat that every school in the country must be provided with armed guards to protect the children from gun owners?

Philip Francis Queeg:BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Would you prefer that we listen to Wayne Lapierre when he tell us gun owners cannot be trusted to follow gun laws and that they pose such a grave threat that every school in the country must be provided with armed guards to protect the children from gun owners?

Mass shootings are fairly rare, though they do get a lot of media attention. Many of my fellow lefties have gun control as a pet issue and enjoy nothing more than standing on the bodies of dead kids so they can push their pet agenda. The rest who hop onto the band wagon during the media blitz are just useful idiots.

Epoch_Zero:BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

What a totally confident gun lobby with legally sound positions does when it's totally confident and just being attacked by opportunist anti-gun zealots does, you guys.

And? You do realize that there were armed guards at that school before the secret service got there, right? Not every student's parent has access to launch codes. So if allowing guns in schools provides no additional safety over gun free zones, and the presence of guns only leads to an increased chance of innocents being shot, as gun control advocates would have us believe, then why would Obama send his kids to a school with such "backwards" thinking? Pointing out hypocrisy is a fair tactic.

Fail in Human Form:Philip Francis Queeg: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Would you prefer that we listen to Wayne Lapierre when he tell us gun owners cannot be trusted to follow gun laws and that they pose such a grave threat that every school in the country must be provided with armed guards to protect the children from gun owners?

Mass shootings are fairly rare, though they do get a lot of media attention. Many of my fellow lefties have gun control as a pet issue and enjoy nothing more than standing on the bodies of dead kids so they can push their pet agenda. The rest who hop onto the band wagon during the media blitz are just useful idiots.

Fail in Human Form:Mass shootings are fairly rare, though they do get a lot of media attention. Many of my fellow lefties have gun control as a pet issue and enjoy nothing more than standing on the bodies of dead kids so they can push their pet agenda. The rest who hop onto the band wagon during the media blitz are just useful idiots.

"Pushing your pet agenda" sounds like a euphemism for something very naughty.

Philip Francis Queeg:Fail in Human Form: Philip Francis Queeg: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Would you prefer that we listen to Wayne Lapierre when he tell us gun owners cannot be trusted to follow gun laws and that they pose such a grave threat that every school in the country must be provided with armed guards to protect the children from gun owners?

Mass shootings are fairly rare, though they do get a lot of media attention. Many of my fellow lefties have gun control as a pet issue and enjoy nothing more than standing on the bodies of dead kids so they can push their pet agenda. The rest who hop onto the band wagon during the media blitz are just useful idiots.

Wayme Lapierre is a lefty now?

The NRA didn't say a word after the shooting, until the media went full retard and they had to respond. The NRA isn't the group that writes its legislation, gleefully, in the blood of the dead before the bodies are even cold.

JAMES YEAGER (1/9/2013): fark that. I'm telling you that if that happens, it's going to spark a Civil War, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. ... I'm not farking putting up with this, I'm not letting my country be ruled by a dictator, I'm not letting anybody take my guns! If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people!

Lost Thought 00:BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Wrong thread, asshole

It's the right thread. This is about your obsession with Alex Jones and your attempt to poison the well, and use every underhanded debate tactic available, such as yours.

Philip Francis Queeg:BraveNewCheneyWorld: Gun control drones - "Hey, we can't seem to form a rational argument against gun ownership. There are simply no facts or statistics backing our position. What should we do?"

Gun control drum-beater - "Find a crazy person on their side, then try to associate him with everyone who disagrees with us, we need to poison that well. Oh, and don't ever try to argue against 2nd amendment supporters' facts, it'll just provide any undecided people the opportunity to realize that we're just pandering to emotions, and our gun control plan won't do what we say it will. Just call them names, or pretend they said something else."

Would you prefer that we listen to Wayne Lapierre when he tell us gun owners cannot be trusted to follow gun laws and that they pose such a grave threat that every school in the country must be provided with armed guards to protect the children from gun owners?

Care to provide a source for that quote? Sounds like you're pretending he said something he did not.