Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2) (Source 3)Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source) At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)Rachel/Katie: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28, possibly photographed in ARN on 6/1 (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:Andie/Jenna: No sightings since Logan Airport in Boston (5/26), possibly made it to Ghana re: tweet (Source)Ron/Tony: No sightings since LHR customs (5/27)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2) (Source 3)Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source) At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:Andie/Jenna: No sightings since Logan Airport in Boston (5/26), possibly made it to Ghana re: tweet (Source) NEL/TBC

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2) (Source 3)Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source) At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Connor/Jonathon: Photographed in ARN in Stockholm on June 1 (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)Nat/Kat Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Jill/Thomas POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source) At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)

Possibly Eliminated:Connor/Jonathon: Last sighting upon arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)Rachel/Katie: Last POSSIBLE sighting upon arrival in Stockholm airport (6/1)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2), (Source 3)Nat/Kat: Spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Jill/Thomas: POSSIBLY spotted in Hong Kong, likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source 1), (Source 2)Michael/Kevin: Photographed in LHR leaving England on 5/28 (Source), spotted on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)Gary/Mallory: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source) At least one M/F couple: Seen on flight to St. Petersburg (Source)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source)Nat/Kat: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source)Jill/Thomas: Likely spotted in Dongducheon, South Korea (Source)

Likely Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:Brook/Claire: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)Nat/Kat: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)Jill/Thomas: Believed to be 5-6 hours ahead of fourth place team (Source)

Mrs Shrek will be helping woden keep up with all this for a while...let us know if you see any mistakes!!

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Teams arrive before sunrise on the morning of the 29th, which means Phil should easily be able to get on the flight leaving late that evening to Frankfurt. Instead there is an extra delay, with Phil most likely taking a flight out the evening of the 30th, and teams departing the next day on the evening of the 31st. Not going to judge on Italy just yet, but here's how it's looking right now...

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

-

31 May

1 Jun

-

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This table, which sets up the schedule for both the crew and the teams, allows us to predict the existence of extra legs (for example, the second leg in Shanghai this season), or the location of these legs (for example, that an extra leg in TAR 15 - Cai Be - was geographically close to Ho Chi Minh City).

The dates in the table represent the day on which most tasks take place. For Phil, this is the day he films his stand-ups. For the teams, this is the day they do the bulk of their racing. For example, if teams arrive in Puerto Varas on the night of the 29th but the majority of the challenges take place on the 30th, the table will indicate the 30th.

The schedule of the recent races (I started paying attention in TAR 14) follows a general pattern. Phil arrives one day before the teams, spends the next day checking in the teams, and sets up the next leg on the third day while teams are held back by extended Pit Stops, by transportation schedules or by hours of operation. An example in table form:

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Leg 4

1 Jan

2 Jan

-

Leg 5

3 Jan

4 Jan

-

Leg 6

5 Jan

6 Jan

-

There are several notable exceptions. The first type is what I call short legs. This is when Phil films his stand-ups on the same day the racers are doing the challenges.TAR 14: Stechelberg to Salzburg, Phuket to Bangkok, Beijing to BeijingTAR 15: Cai Be to Ho Chi Minh City, Dubai to Dubai, Prague to Prague

I don't dare to present a rationale, but these one thing these legs have in common is the short travel distance. And as TheSchnauzers says, they are often temporally short as well, since flights are often not involved. In TAR 16, this comes in the form of Puerto Varas to Bariloche, Hamburg to France or France to France, and Shanghai to Shanghai. In fact, the legs on which Phil films his stand-ups the same day as the teams are racing are always the shortest legs, distance-wise, in their respective seasons. Short legs, at least since TAR 14, have never been back to back. In table form:

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Leg 7

7 Jan

7 Jan

Short leg

Leg 8

8 Jan

9 Jan

-

The second group of exceptions, on contrast, involves long travel legs. Sometimes Phil spends so much time travelling to the next destination he doesn't have enough daylight to work with, and so the entire schedule is pushed back. These legs often involve long multi-leg flights.TAR 14: Bran to Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk to JaipurTAR 15: None, since they stuck to major cities with good airport hubsTAR 16: Bariloche to Hamburg, France to Seychelles, Seychelles to Penang

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Leg 9

10 Jan

11 Jan

-

Leg 10

13 Jan

14 Jan

Long leg

Here, Phil flies to his destination on the 12th, while teams travel on the 13th.

The third type of exception involves the premiere and finale legs. Premieres, if flight schedules allow, often involve an overnight rest on the first day, giving Phil some wiggle room to film his stand-ups. For example, the TAR 14 premiere had teams travel to Locarno for an overnight while Phil heads directly to Interlaken for his narration, and the TAR 15 premiere had teams stay over in the magical Green Room, giving Phil some time for filming in Tokyo. This doesn't always apply, especially if the first leg takes place in South America. TAR 9 and TAR 16, in particular, had flight schedules with morning arrivals, meaning Phil has had to hustle to get his filming done. Finales are often single-day affairs. I suppose Phil has all the times to film his stand-ups after wrapping up the race formalities.

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Leg 11

15 Jan

16 Jan

-

Leg 12

17 Jan

17 Jan

Final leg

After all that... Piecing together the dates Phil and teams are sighted along the racecourse allows us to fill in the table, allowing us to figure out where the gaps are and how long production has available for legs. Confusing, but it's worked pretty well so far!

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The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

If so, I guess we can explain the long wait in Stockholm as one leg on the 1st, and another on the 3rd. St Petersburg would then take place on the 5th. But that also means that the two legs between the Stockholm sightings are not geographically close to each other, so that an extra day is needed for Phil to film his stand-ups. So tentatively...

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

Sweden I

31 May

1 Jun

-

Sweden II

2 Jun

3 Jun

-

St Petersburg

4 Jun

5 Jun

-

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The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

If so, I guess we can explain the long wait in Stockholm as one leg on the 1st, and another on the 3rd. St Petersburg would then take place on the 5th. But that also means that the two legs in Stockholm are not geographically close to each other, so that an extra day is needed for Phil to film his stand-ups...

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

Sweden I

31 May

1 Jun

-

Sweden II

2 Jun

3 Jun

Not same geographical area as Sweden I

St Petersburg

4 Jun

5 Jun

-

Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun. So two possibilities...

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

Sweden I

31 May

1 Jun

-

Sweden I

1 Jun

2 Jun

Long leg

Sweden II

2 Jun

3 Jun

-

Sweden II

3 Jun

3 Jun

Short leg

St Petersburg

4 Jun

5 Jun

-

St Petersburg

4 Jun

5 Jun

-

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Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun.

I somehow doubt TAR would want to revisit Stockholm. Perhaps a train ride is in order?

Maybe they arrived on the evening of 1 Jun,then they need to go to somewhere already closed,so they had to wait and start this leg in 2 Jun. And 2nd leg in sweden race in 3 Jun,they had a extend pitstop until 4 Jun.

You may be right, but teams flying straight from Accra to Stockholm are likely to have made it into Sweden by 9.35am, and if they miss that, at 11.50am. They'd have to have travelled quite a bit to run into an Hours of Operation on the evening of 1 Jun.

I somehow doubt TAR would want to revisit Stockholm. Perhaps a train ride is in order?

That's what I think too. They could have visited northern Sweden by train, and flew to St Petersburg via Stockholm. Possible!?

The first Stockholm sighting at Arlanda Intl was posted on the evening of 1 Jun. According to the Accra spoiler, teams arrived in Frankfurt on the morning of that same day. That's not enough for a leg and a Pit Stop, but it's way too long for a connection. Could the poster have seen the teams earlier in the day, then waited all the way until 2am to post? What could have happened here?

A couple of things:

Didn't the poster say he only saw a couple of teams on 6/1. Isn't it possible that both Frankfurt and Stockholm were connections at the same time to another European city, or all of the teams were on an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-somewhere else flight? Also, because we have no actual sightings of teams in Stockholm (at least I don't think so), its possible that the 6/5 sighting was also a connection point (somewhere --> Stockholm --> St. Petersburg). I'm not doubting legs in Sweden, but with the race just visiting there two seasons ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the country wasn't visited again. Then again, if we do have solid sightings within the country besides the airport, I must've missed them and I take all this back.

If one of the detectives (peach, Neobie, woden, etc) could respond, that'd be great.

Didn't the poster say he only saw a couple of teams on 6/1. Isn't it possible that both Frankfurt and Stockholm were connections at the same time to another European city, or all of the teams were on an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-somewhere else flight? Also, because we have no actual sightings of teams in Stockholm (at least I don't think so), its possible that the 6/5 sighting was also a connection point (somewhere --> Stockholm --> St. Petersburg). I'm not doubting legs in Sweden, but with the race just visiting there two seasons ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the country wasn't visited again. Then again, if we do have solid sightings within the country besides the airport, I must've missed them and I take all this back.

Definitely possible, but there are no direct flights from Accra to Stockholm, and if teams head to Frankfurt first, they should be able to connect to most European cities without having to go through Stockholm. Baltic Europe would have been a possibility had we not received the second Stockholm sighting, but I'd tend to think Baltic cities have pretty good connections with St Petersburg without requiring teams to backtrack through Stockholm.

ETA: Ran a check to see which cities would warrant an Accra-Frankfurt-Stockholm-[destination] itinerary, and the only two (neither of which really make sense) are Reykjavik and Tallinn.

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The sighting of teams at Muscat Airport looking for flights to Bangladesh on the night of 8 Jun fit in well with our itinerary. Looks like one leg each in Russia and Oman. Phil has the option of flying from St Petersburg to Muscat night of the 5th, 8.10pm to 9.30am via Moscow DME and Dubai. He can also easily get from Muscat to Dhaka night of the 7th, 12.15am to 12.00pm via Mumbai. The same options are open for teams the day after.

The spoiler map is constantly being updated in the Maps Thread.

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

England

27 May

27 May

First leg

Ghana I

28 May

29 May

-

Ghana II

30 May

30 May

Short leg

Sweden I

31 May

1 Jun

-

Sweden II

2 Jun

3 Jun

Elsewhere?

St Petersburg

4 Jun

5 Jun

-

Muscat

6 Jun

7 Jun

-

Dhaka

8 Jun

9 Jun

-

Alternative Sweden dates...

Leg

Phil

Teams

Comments

Sweden I

1 Jun

2 Jun

Long leg

Sweden II

3 Jun

3 Jun

Short leg

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"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

The FIRST Arlanda sighting of teams took place on June 1, not June 2 though. .

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The FIRST Arlanda sighting of teams took place on June 1, not June 2 though. .

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Understood. We're just not eliminating the possibility that teams travelled onwards by train or bus from Stockholm to put them in the actual destination city after dark, and having the majority of tasks taking place on 2 Jun. There's not enough evidence now to call it either way, though.

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Oh okay gotcha. I thought you meant arrival. My spec is that they go on to somewhere too....as in not Stockholm.

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Can someone help put this together please? Try the Timeline thread if you want....

Apparently there is going to be filming of the Korean episode at 4PM TODAY!!

Where can you get the information they are in Korea at 4PM today?

That turned out to be Phil's stand ups, not teams.

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A 13-episode season of The Amazing Race is shot over 25 days. Filming might start at dawn and last all day until contestants and crew are on a plane to the next destination. They catch as much aerial sleep as they can, only to begin again at touchdown.

"This last season [his 17th], we did six days in a row and never even saw a hotel."

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan

A 13-episode season of The Amazing Race is shot over 25 days. Filming might start at dawn and last all day until contestants and crew are on a plane to the next destination. They catch as much aerial sleep as they can, only to begin again at touchdown.

"This last season [his 17th], we did six days in a row and never even saw a hotel."

"Our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know."--Phil Keoghan