The story makes no sense, can you explain to me what palpatines plan was in the phantom menace or what qui-gons bet was with watto?

honestly rewatch the movie and explain to me what palpatine stood to gain from the actions he took.

First he wanted the Queen to sign his treaty and he was pretty damned adamant "I want that treaty signed".

He told the Trade Federation to kill the Jedi, even though he really needed the Jedi to go back and declare that there was a war going on. He should have had the Federation tell them "there will be no negotiations we plan to invade the planet".

He sent Darth Maul to like kill them on Tatooine...why? He needs Amadala to get back to Courescant to declare that vote of no confidence at this point so why is he sending Darth Maul after them?

Then on Naboo why did he send Darth Maul to Naboo? At this point he's got what he needs theres no reason to send Maul to Naboo because the planet is now irrelevant to his goals of becoming Supreme Chancellor.

Then at the end of the movie Darth Sidious just screws em over.

Then in Episodes II-III these same idiots get involved in another one of Darth Sidious's convoluted schemes and he once again screws them over. It's just too stupid to take seriously.

And I don't wanna here about Darth Plagueis or Darth Mauls Journal or anyother books that fill in the gaps, this is a movie it shouldn't need books to explain its self.

As it stands, I see the flaws. I actually really don't care for Episode II all that much. I still find some enjoyment in it, mostly for Jango (I'm openly a Boba fanboy. Have been since I was about six.) and the Clones were cool. The love scenes, a lot of the dialogue; and the somewhat flawed CGI in places doesn't hold up for me. But will I still defend it as part of the saga? Hell yeah I will.

The story makes no sense, can you explain to me what qui-gons bet was with watto?

First off, Watto is sick, in the sense that he's a gambler. He cannot resist placing a bet if it intrigues him. Having said that:
1.QuiGon needs a part for the ship. He has no money, so he needs an alternative.
2.Anakin offers to help by podracing for him (and informing him that Watto is a bet-oholic).
3.Thus, Qui makes a bet with Watto that if Anakin wins the podrace, he'll get the part.
4.Then Qui realizes Anakin's midichlorian count.
5.He makes the stakes of the bet higher by telling Watto that if Anakin wins, the boy is free and Watto also gets his podracer.

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First he wanted the Queen to sign his treaty and he was pretty damned adamant "I want that treaty signed".

Yes, initially.

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He told the Trade Federation to kill the Jedi, even though he really needed the Jedi to go back and declare that there was a war going on. He should have had the Federation tell them "there will be no negotiations we plan to invade the planet".

He didn't need the Jedi to do anything. The plan was indeed an invasion at first. He changed his plan when the Queen escaped. He's a political schemer.

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He sent Darth Maul to like kill them on Tatooine...why? He needs Amadala to get back to Courescant to declare that vote of no confidence at this point so why is he sending Darth Maul after them?

At that point the Queen would blow the true nature of the embargo, aka that it was an invasion. She was more useful to him dead. When they finally got to Coruscant he saw the new opportunity that arose from her arrival and changed his plan to that of the vote of no confidence.

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Then on Naboo why did he send Darth Maul to Naboo? At this point he's got what he needs theres no reason to send Maul to Naboo because the planet is now irrelevant to his goals of becoming Supreme Chancellor.

Then at the end of the movie Darth Sidious just screws em over.

Then in Episodes II-III these same idiots get involved in another one of Darth Sidious's convoluted schemes and he once again screws them over. It's just too stupid to take seriously.

He didn't screw them over, that's why he sent Maul to help on Naboo. Actually, of course he intended to screw them over eventually, but he obviously didn't want them to know they were expendable to him. But sure, nobody's forcing you to find it not stupid or to take it seriously.

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And I don't wanna here about Darth Plagueis or Darth Mauls Journal or anyother books that fill in the gaps, this is a movie it shouldn't need books to explain its self.

He sent Darth Maul to like kill them on Tatooine...why? He needs Amadala to get back to Courescant to declare that vote of no confidence at this point so why is he sending Darth Maul after them?

I know this is from a few pages ago, but this comment is asinine and easily explained in the movie.

Yes, Palpatine needs Amidala. Which is why, in the scene between Palpatine and Maul on Coruscant, he instructs Maul to move against the Jedi and dispatch them so that he can capture the Queen and bring her back to Coruscant to sign the treaty.

In all fairness it's not just you, but I'm starting to see a trend of people nitpicking things in movies in a way that clearly demonstrates they either haven't seen the movie in a while and should freshen up before instigating a current discussion or they're just flat out not paying attention, which is their fault more than the film's.

Another example of this is the Nostalgia Critic's review of "The Matrix Reloaded" when he criticizes the plot point of Neo having to fly "around the world" to save Morpheus and the Keymaker after the Freeway chase.

The critique falls completely on its face if you watch the movie, in which Link clearly instructs Neo he has to fly to "the middle of the city, 500 miles due south"...which is hardly "around the world."

The prequel trilogy had the potential to be much better than the original trilogy, they had the budget, updated technology, most known actors (Ewan Mcgregor, Samuel Jackson, Liam Neeson, Christopher Lee) the premise (the story of Anakin Skywalker being seduced by the dark side of the force and destroying the Jedi Order and the rise of the Empire) it had great potential to be an epic trilogy but they failed big time.

In Attack of the Clones the dialogue was terrible especially between Anakin and Padme. The CG is very fake looking.

In Revenge of the Sith the fall of Anakin is ridiculous. Especially his reasoning for killing all the Jedi. He killed all of them all because they didn't promote him to Master. Another ridiculous thing is that he save his wife by killing all Jedi, even the Padawans had to die. All to save just one person. Who the hell thinks like that? The CG troopers look really fake.

He didn't kill them because of the promotion. At that point he killed Mace to get the secret to save Padme from Sid, so he was following the latter's orders to get to Sid's good graces. He did not intend to stay under Sid, he said so right before he choked Padme on Mustafar. It was only when she died that he gave up and turned fully Sith.

He was furious that the council didn't make him a master, he felt deservedly so. Then Palpatine said they don't recognize his talents. Because he wasn't promoted he delusionally agreed that the Jedi weren't telling him things about the Force. When he said good bye to Obi-Wan the look on his face was about the council not recognizing him, prior to that moment Obi-Wan told him to be patient in in time they will make him a Jedi Master. Even the sequel novel it says that Anakin killed all of them because they didn't recognize his talents. All because of this is his justification/rationalization that it was ok to kill the Jedi, to save Padme. For Two movie Palpatine said he was the best, creating a big ego in Anakin, also putting a hamper on Obi-wans training of making Anakin a more humble Jedi.

I don't mind that he used it as his rationalization, it's a very human trait. Palps manipulated him and blew up the promotion thing in his head to link it with his death visions. And then he actually ordered him to kill all the Jedi. At that point, justification or not, he wouldn't disobey. His ultimate purpose was to save Padme and the deeper reason was his selfishness and his inability to accept death, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy with Padme's death.

What I wish George made clearer to the audience through Anakin's reaction is that him realizing he had no choice, by a look on his face, that his assisting to in the killing of Mace he was now an accomplice to the murder and he had no choice in joining Palpatine. All in one look that was needed.

A person cannot possibly devalue thousand of innocent people that he knows them to be of great value and flip ones belief of it on a dime, with him growing up knowing in his hearts heart that the Jedi are a beautiful thing, and then saying it's all bad rips out ones soul inside and out to begin to even think that way. I could never betray the ones I love as he does here. Here Anakin lied to himself in a crazy way to save Padme, in my opinion he's written inhuman!!! There has to be at least a dozen Jedi that has touched his life, in killing them would break him to do so, right? He says what have I done!!! Then he goes out and kills them all including the innocent children. This is not a man that could of possibly came from a good child, none of this characterization is believable. How can you value two lives so strongly but dismiss 10,000 more in a heartbeat. Oh God my heart hurts in fathoming such soul ripping thinking. I don't know what's wrong with me, I value life.

What I wish George made clearer to the audience through Anakin's reaction is that him realizing he had no choice, by a look on his face, that his assisting to in the killing of Mace he was now an accomplice to the murder and he had no choice in joining Palpatine. All in one look that was needed.

A person cannot possibly devalue thousand of innocent people that he knows them to be of great value and flip ones belief of it on a dime, with him growing up knowing in his hearts heart that the Jedi are a beautiful thing, and then saying it's all bad rips out ones soul inside and out to begin to even think that way. I could never betray the ones I love as he does here. Here Anakin lied to himself in a crazy way to save Padme, in my opinion he's written inhuman!!! There has to be at least a dozen Jedi that has touched his life, in killing them would break him to do so, right? He says what have I done!!! Then he goes out and kills them all including the innocent children. This is not a man that could of possibly came from a good child, none of this characterization is believable. How can you value two lives so strongly but dismiss 10,000 more in a heartbeat. Oh God my heart hurts in fathoming such soul ripping thinking. I don't know what's wrong with me, all life is valuable to me.

I think you bring up some good points. I've long had problems with Anakin's characterization. I can understand him killing Mace, but not attacking the Jedi Temple or believing that the Jedi are actually evil.

I've long thought that George Lucas made a mistake in wanting Anakin to be a hero. At best he should've started out as an anti-hero and then became an out and out villain and Obi Wan should've been the true hero of the prequels. Obi Wan should've been the main character of the prequels and not Anakin.

I also thought it was a mistake starting Anakin out as a sweet, innocent kid. I just don't think GL had the skills to really show the tragic arc of a man's life like that, from innocence to evil.

What I do think GL did a decent job with was getting Anakin's possessiveness. Also his impulsiveness and recklessness.

Episode I is actually my favorite. Yes, Jar Jar sucks. Yes Jake Lloyd is dopey as hell. But to me the real sets, practical effects, and lighter tone make it feel like, of the three, the most similar to the original trilogy.

Episode II is abysmal.

Episode III is better than II, but I feel like Anakin's transformation into Vader was unforgivably poorly executed. I guess that's a fault of all three movies though.

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