Hmm. The first one doesn't appeal to me, it's just sort of a bunch of greenery with a little trail running through it. The greenery seems to sort of overpower the shot (if that makes any sense).

The second photo though, :thumbup:. The only thing I can think of that would make it better is if you had stood closer to the edge of the creek and shot so that it ran from the top of the photo to the bottom, rather than side to side.

Thanks King and Josh, I understand what you guys are saying, and to some extent I agree. Patrick, thanks for your input as well, but regardless of what technology they come up with, you cant alter content without completely deviating from the original photo, ie, i can photoshop a condor in the shot... but, well you get the point.

What I like about the pics is also what is distracting about the pics, the jungle or forest litter. Just wanted to get some other's perspectives on the shots.

The first thing I look for is a subject. If I'm hunting around a picture for it, I think the picture did not succeed. On yours, I think some tactical cropping might make a huge improvement. Possibly making the first a portrait containing mostly the path. On the second, perhaps zooming in on the stream.

Denny, I think you hit it on the nose, there is no focal subject, (did I just coin a new phrase?)... i.e. there is nothing to focus your attention on. Cropping might do the trick for both pics.

And thanks for the input WeddingPhotog, youre right, the pics are over saturated and i did nothing to take advantage of shadows.

Shockey and Mike, i guess frameable or something i would show friends or family to describe the trip, is what I was going for, worhtless may have been the wrong term. I guess, sh!tcan or use to show friends, should have been the thread title.

The first thing I look for is a subject. If I'm hunting around a picture for it, I think the picture did not succeed.

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That's the first photography quote I have not read in a book that I really want to apply. +1 for this :thumbup:

On the picture note - I like Number 1 but it would do well as part of a surrounding peice or presenation. What is the trail, where does it lead, who is on it, what are you expecting, is night falling soon, has dawn just broken?

I am not sure how you would add these details but that is what I think when I look at it. But then I am not a photographer, I write mainly.