I am trying to make a pre- COP vs. UNE war comic/theme. It is about the COP about 50 - 200 years before they encountered the UNE. I was going to call the comic thingy 'Dawn Crusades' or 'Space Crusade' or 'The Coalition Wars' or something like that.

Sure, go ahead. In my version of history, the UNE-COP war started about 50 years ago, so it's gonna have to be a bit further back than that.

Before this little war, things were roughly the same for about 10,000 years. The Emperor requires your obedience, you serve, and in the end, he serves you. Sometimes barbarians come, maybe once every few generations, and they fall to ruin against our fleets. The UNE is a special case because they're Humans too, albeit a lesser kind from the Tarsin perspective, and they refused the word of the Emperor. Also, they're putting up a much more effective resistance than previous minor powers, and their technology goes at a much fast pace than ours.

So before this, the Coalition was at a long peace, interruptions only occurring on outlying regions at the very limits of COP power. There isn't much besides small missions to take out barbarians. Permalink

Quoting Awesome-o-saurus The Not-So-Great
Sure, go ahead. In my version of history, the UNE-COP war started about 50 years ago, so it's gonna have to be a bit further back than that.

Before this little war, things were roughly the same for about 10,000 years. The Emperor requires your obedience, you serve, and in the end, he serves you. Sometimes barbarians come, maybe once every few generations, and they fall to ruin against our fleets. The UNE is a special case because they're Humans too, albeit a lesser kind from the Tarsin perspective, and they refused the word of the Emperor. Also, they're putting up a much more effective resistance than previous minor powers, and their technology goes at a much fast pace than ours.

So before this, the Coalition was at a long peace, interruptions only occurring on outlying regions at the very limits of COP power. There isn't much besides small missions to take out barbarians.

Thanks for all that info, So just to confirm, nothing significant other than a few small skirmishes with aliens and cyborgs occurred 10,000 years prior to discovering the UNE. I might have to go more than 10,000 years back then. Could you tell me when something nearly, or equally as significant as discovering the UNE happened, like a war with a mysterious enemy or something. If nothing else, I might even go back 40000 years or so to when the coalition was first foundedPermalink

Quoting danny morgan
Thanks for all that info, So just to confirm, nothing significant other than a few small skirmishes with aliens and cyborgs occurred 10,000 years prior to discovering the UNE. I might have to go more than 10,000 years back then. Could you tell me when something nearly, or equally as significant as discovering the UNE happened, like a war with a mysterious enemy or something. If nothing else, I might even go back 40000 years or so to when the coalition was first founded

This is the point where it's easier to copypaste my COP history:

40,000 years ago: The COP is founded as an actual coalition of planets, each planet answering to a head system, like Thyrenda or Vogelia, and those head systems answering to a high council on Tarsis. Beset on all side by vicious, barbaric states, the Great Crusades begin. It's slow and brutal, but over the centuries, the young and scattered Coalition gains ground.

39,000 years ago: The Genesis Operation Decoder (GOD) Machine is created. After it's initial success, it becomes the official code relay computer, transmitting to the spread apart COP worlds, via beacons placed in warpspace (where ships go when in slipstream, and briefly for Thyrendi jump drives).

37,000 years ago: It becomes apparent, as the Coalition gained more territory, that word has spread of a new power that is bringing law and justice. Planets start to join faster than they can be conquered, or even sent a garrison. Technology is on the rise.

31,000 years ago: The Great Crusades are now over, a great deal of the galaxy is under Coalition rule. The GOD Machine shuts down for some reason, but is quickly forgotten as new and better things take it's place. The technological golden age of the COP has begun.

28,297 years ago: The COP's computer network crashes for an unknown reason, bringing down with it the commucations arrays in warpspace, effectively isolating every Coalition world. As you can imagine, all h311 breaks loose as people realize they are alone. Civil wars start when it becomes clear COP officials no longer have the power to summon down the hammer of the Coalition on would-be rebels.

27,000 years ago: On Tarsis, one warlord manages to best all the other warlords, and names himself emperor. He sets about rebuilding the shattered capitol world, and sends out ships to see what other planets had been up to during this time. The situation is grim, the same had happened on almost every other world. All that had been gained during the first 12,000 years had been lost. Much to the Emperor's displeasure, many planets no longer wanted to be in the Coalition, or at least didn't have any one leader to speak for them. The slow reconquest began, and the even slower process of finding the warpspace communication beacons began as well. It is theororized the ancestor of the modern W-ship was built for this purpose.

25,000 years ago: The Coalition, under the Emperor of Tarsis, had regained half of it's former territory. The technology that had driven the Great Crusades was mostly lost, things were considerably slower. By the time the COP had reached Thyrenda, the funds nessacary to continued the conquest were gone. Thyrenda, once the center of a large part of the Coalition, was now a frontier world, as were many others.

24,000 years ago: Many of the communication beacons were retrieved and fixed after a long search through warpspace. A good deal of ships were lost under mysterious circumstances, suggesting warpspace wasn't as safe as once thought, or at least, long stays in warpspace weren't as safe as once though.

20,000 years ago: Civil war breaks out on a massive scale as an Emperor dies with no succesor. The warpspace commucation beacons, the most advanced remaining techonology in use by the the Coalition, become a fought-over commodity by the factions vying for control of the throne.

19,948 years ago: One faction comes out dominant, and begins the long process of conquering the opposers. Once more, the COP is set back many years of progress by war. And yet again, ships are sent into warpspace to find lost beacons (Those beacons, when will they ever learn?).

15,000 years ago: A plague decimates many worlds in the Coalition, causing more instability.

13,000 years ago: An outside power, one of those the Coalition was unable to reconquer, sweeps through the COP, causing a path of destruction. Tarsis itself is sacked. Morale is very low. The invasion is followed by an economic collapse. Whatever morale was left in the COP, it was gone now.

12,000 years ago: A rebellion forms near the core of the galaxy, the systems succesfully split off and go isolationist.

10,000 years ago: The Emperor decides something needs to be done. Through a slow process, he forges the Coalition into an empire made for survival, presenting himself as the servant of the people. It works. Swiftly, things turn around, seemingly. Over the next few generations, the Emperor takes on a more and more venerated role, the people experience more and more hardships as most of the funding goes to the military. To escape the hardships, the military is a good way out (lol cycle). For the first time in a long time, the Coalition was a power to be reckoned with. Since technology is what got them into the mess in the first place (the computer failure has been exagerated over time into a fatal error of all systems), it is decided technological progress is no longer needed.

-not sure what to put here, maybe just a few wars or what not-

50-30 years ago (because I think it's been at least two generations, personally): First contact is made with the UNE. At first, they were thought to be one of the states that was not able to be reconquered, but it became clear they were some new barbarian threat. After the COP get's it's first serious defeat, the UNE becomes a very real threat. The 6th Great Crusade begins, the first one in many thousands of years.Permalink

13,000 years ago: An outside power, one of those the Coalition was unable to reconquer, sweeps through the COP, causing a path of destruction. Tarsis itself is sacked. Morale is very low. The invasion is followed by an economic collapse. Whatever morale was left in the COP, it was gone now.

12,000 years ago: A rebellion forms near the core of the galaxy, the systems succesfully split off and go isolationist.

I think I'll base it off one of these. Who was the Emperor at this time, or can I just make it up?

One more question (unless i think of more):

What/who is 'the outside power' you mentioned 13,000 years ago?Permalink

Quoting danny morgan
I think I'll base it off one of these. Who was the Emperor at this time, or can I just make it up?

One more question (unless i think of more):

What/who is 'the outside power' you mentioned 13,000 years ago?

You can just make emperor's for the pre-10000 years ago thing. 10000 years ago is however when the Emperor became simply the Emperor. Is he the same guy, or different, or just an idea, perhaps like Big Brother in 1984? No one knows.

The outside power is... Probably a powerful state that's ex-COP. I'm not sure exactly, just something in COP origins but failed to be re-unified with Tarsis, so things would be similar. Permalink

@Your comment in the UNE: The Great Crusades were five, several century long campaigns into other sections of the galaxy, namely five separate parts of the "arms" of stars and dust. They lasted from 40,000 years ago to 31,000 years ago. After that was the 4,000 of epic win, then things went to heck. Permalink

60 years ago:
The COP is devastated by a raging civil war, and at the end, a dictator is declared emperor.

the fifth crusade:A brave group of rebels fights for the return of democracy. We are a democratic empire ya know, not communists.

The rebels wage war, and capture the moon of Rahoul.

The Tarsis system is invaded.
Tarsis is liberated a short time later
The Capitol City is sieged, the dictator emperor commits unholy suicide to many religions. they do not bury him

The Coalition of planets, 51 years ago, celebrated a long sought overthrow of a 9 year brutal and murderous regime. The rebel leader, Ian MacDonald, is pronounced the emperor, and for the next year, he commits his army to stamping out the remaining barbarians in his galaxy, basically, the comic has that stuff in it

one day after the barbarians are squashed, which was on December 31st,2238, the UNE appears. The 6th Great Crusade begins. Permalink

60 years ago:
The COP is devastated by a raging civil war, and at the end, a dictator is declared emperor.

the fifth crusade:A brave group of rebels fights for the return of democracy. We are a democratic empire ya know, not communists.

The rebels wage war, and capture the moon of Rahoul.

The Tarsis system is invaded.
Tarsis is liberated a short time later
The Capitol City is sieged, the dictator emperor commits unholy suicide to many religions. they do not bury him

The Coalition of planets, 51 years ago, celebrated a long sought overthrow of a 9 year brutal and murderous regime. The rebel leader, Ian MacDonald, is pronounced the emperor, and for the next year, he commits his army to stamping out the remaining barbarians in his galaxy, basically, the comic has that stuff in it

one day after the barbarians are squashed, which was on December 31st,2238, the UNE appears. The 6th Great Crusade begins.

I was under the impression that us C.O.P weren't democrats, and that Emperor Ian's identity (for a lack of a better word, I'll misuse this one) was unknown.Permalink

communism:a form of government with one ruling political party . . .well, there's more, but well . . .

we have to parties!
The Coalition Socialist Party of People,
and the Galactic Nationalist Parliament.

currently, socialism isn't bad in COP, and Ian is in power, so right now the Coalition Socialist Party of People is in power. Evan MacDonald is also from the CSPP is in power. Awesome-o-saur and Gus Indo are from it to. Coalition hints its the one that overthrew the dictorial regime of the last Galactic Nationalist Parliament rule.Permalink

communism:a form of government with one ruling political party . . .well, there's more, but well . . .

we have to parties!
The Coalition Socialist Party of People,
and the Galactic Nationalist Parliament.

currently, socialism isn't bad in COP, and Ian is in power, so right now the Coalition Socialist Party of People is in power. Evan MacDonald is also from the CSPP is in power. Awesome-o-saur and Gus Indo are from it to. Coalition hints its the one that overthrew the dictorial regime of the last Galactic Nationalist Parliament rule.

Where did you get the information about the Coalition's parties? I don't recall ever hearing that.

Coalition is merely the name of the original C.O.P, right now the "Coalition" is an empire, that's why we have an emperor, not a ruling council, sure there's Awe, Gus, and Evan, but the Emperor is still the most powerful figure there.Permalink

Yea, that whole parties thing and the civil war thing completely messes with canon. Again. For one, the COP is a one party state, you're with the Emperor, or you're an enemy. No petty politics here, just beuracratic (however you spell it, Google Chrome has no brain in spellcheck) red tape.

Furthermore, as previously stated in the official history I posted, there's been one ruler for the past 10,000 years, or so it's thought. This very long-lived Emperor's identity is a mystery. Permalink

Quoting Juan .
So is there any particular (or political) reason why the C.O.P is still called a coalition, despite being an empire?

Like Augustus on Earth, the Emperor wanted it to *seem* like the people still had power, despite it being a monarchy. It's a trick, and it worked for a time. By 10,000 years ago, everyone knew it was really an empire, but the name had stuck so long no one wanted to change it. Permalink

60 years ago:
The COP is devastated by a raging civil war, and at the end, a dictator is declared emperor.

the fifth crusade:A brave group of rebels fights for the return of democracy. We are a democratic empire ya know, not communists.

The rebels wage war, and capture the moon of Rahoul.

The Tarsis system is invaded.
Tarsis is liberated a short time later
The Capitol City is sieged, the dictator emperor commits unholy suicide to many religions. they do not bury him

The Coalition of planets, 51 years ago, celebrated a long sought overthrow of a 9 year brutal and murderous regime. The rebel leader, Ian MacDonald, is pronounced the emperor, and for the next year, he commits his army to stamping out the remaining barbarians in his galaxy, basically, the comic has that stuff in it

one day after the barbarians are squashed, which was on December 31st,2238, the UNE appears. The 6th Great Crusade begins.

Thanks for your ideas, but I think I'll base the comic theme 13000 years ago, where the COP is under brutal attack from the 'powerful ex-COP nation'. Don't you just love that picture on the front of the warhammer apocalypse book thingy, where there's a Chaos Titan and lots of Space orks pwning eachother? sorry, off topicPermalink