@Bruce, we will see how good he is. And regarding to our GM, well, Bob does certain things well and others not. In terms of drafting and creating his scouting team he is great. Around here everyone gives the credit to Madden but the GM is in charge of building his staff. Madden is here and has the influence because of Bob. Overall, Bob neither a bad GM nor he is a very good one. Btw, I just rate Holland as a good GM, everyone else has his ups and downs and I'm glad Brian Burke is not in charge of this team anymore. The Ducks are not an easy team to run and tell me one GM who has internal financial limits who you consider as great?