When your dealing with a philosophy that is saturated with logical fallacies , you have to resort to deflections ALOT.

Oh! Good time to step in and ask a question from the op

i haven't read anything but the last page so i don't know if this was answered. I doubt it since bothe silly and josh looks to have really lost it.
Silly has gone rabid even. You guys must have really twisted their panties.

Oh ok, I just see a lot of generalizations when it comes to "leftists" around these parts, people saying it as if "leftist" has a very particular
definition or mindset..

My friend appreciates it.

How far left IS an actual leftist?

Asking for myself.

Because they keep getting further and further left. The Right has pretty much stayed put, we all know their stance. But a leftist from 10 years ago,
is not a leftist of today.

I keep hearing my Democrat friends and coworkers talking about how they now feel disenfranchised, because their party keeps moving the goal posts. "I
don't even know what it means to be a Democrat today." an actual quote from one of my techs. I keep telling them they're Independents now, just like
me. The Democrat party lost me in 1992. I vote for the person now, not the party. Which means I do a lot more research than the average voter.

Oh ok, I just see a lot of generalizations when it comes to "leftists" around these parts, people saying it as if "leftist" has a very particular
definition or mindset..

My friend appreciates it.

How far left IS an actual leftist?

Asking for myself.

Because they keep getting further and further left. The Right has pretty much stayed put, we all know their stance. But a leftist from 10 years ago,
is not a leftist of today.

I keep hearing my Democrat friends and coworkers talking about how they now feel disenfranchised, because their party keeps moving the goal posts. "I
don't even know what it means to be a Democrat today." an actual quote from one of my techs. I keep telling them they're Independents now, just like
me. The Democrat party lost me in 1992. I vote for the person now, not the party. Which means I do a lot more research than the average voter.

So, do explain. What is a leftist?

Believe it or not, it has always been the leftists that began the term. It was those that chose "the Left hand Path" that has always called their
side the left. So it actually a natural progression to always seek as far left towards the path that society will allow is the definition at that
moment in time. Where we are at now? Think marxism if you want to identify with its current form

This is a good take, but I think hillary and bill had an 'open relationship'. Melania and Donald may also, who knows. Who knows if it's even the case,
we don't have a blue dress here. This could easily be the case of dems paying someone to come forward with false accusations (as they tried to do
during the election) and trump simply paying them more to not do it because it's easier than trying to deal with the fallout, especially since this
was supposed to happen with the "october surprise."

NOTE: I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm saying I have no idea and there are multiple plausible scenario's.

So the blue dress is speculation... we all know he did it, but the dress was never even confirmed.

Trump actually has court documents specifically saying what happened, from trumps lawyer, on his behalf..

There is twice as much evidence for trumps porn star fling than bill banging his secretary..

Thats retarded. We have multiple people giving testimony in court, including Monica. It was a tawdry affair well known in the whitehouse. It was
even recorded. Bill is a sick sex obsessed puppy. What does "is" mean anyway? It means to Bill "I is skating away freeeeee" because, hillary

Why would Hillary ever leave Bill?
They have no relationship as what you or I know. They are pawns in an elite game and service those above them. They are simply puppets placed together
for political reasoning. They work together to bring the NWO closer all the time.

originally posted by: gottaknow
Why would Hillary ever leave Bill?
They have no relationship as what you or I know. They are pawns in an elite game and service those above them. They are simply puppets placed together
for political reasoning. They work together to bring the NWO closer all the time.

Not the first president to have an affair. The only thing that makes him different is he wasn't president when t occurred. But many forget most of our
greatest presidents had affairs.
Thomas Jefferson, FDR,Dwight Eisenhower are some of the ones confirmed many also were never proven but only suspected like George Washington.

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