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Geeky yet palatable...Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:22:00 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Deanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-58
Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:22:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-58Worked for me with 2 parts to it … (1) followed the enable labs as outlined by Rich in Update #2 — I had already done that, reloaded, signed out etc … but no luck on its own! Then (2) I appended the URL with the string you mentioned, and it worked fine — now all okay.
]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Rob Burkehttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-53
Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:33:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-53no luck
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Tue, 07 Aug 2012 08:33:03 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2006/07/24/myspace-no-good-to-me.aspx#comment-52[…] I work @ MySpace and have become quite the fan boy, my MySpace Display Name was at one time: “Robbie Hates MySpace” …and for the record, I changed my mind about the site before working here and in fact […]
]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-51
Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:02:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-51 So it sounds to me that this/these issue(s) is/are resolved for you now? I’ve never used that Chrome extension before but that makes sense. Nice work with how you isolated the symptoms by switching computers.
]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Dustincpahttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-50
Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:03:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-50Robbie, thank you!

“Do you see a pane on the left side with a tree control that has your domain name at the root (top) and a plus sign (+) to the left of it? If so, then you do indeed have at least one
suborganization defined.
A: I do not have suborganizations. There is no plus sign next to my domain, just the domain itself.

Yes, I too checked the enable/disable services several times, certain I was missing one since there is a list of 20+. All services are “On” and since no suborganizations, it must apply to all users as you mentioned.

To further trouble shoot this earlier today, I attempted logging in under my users name/pwd on a different computer, and Chat shows up along with Labs, Accounts, and Themes. But every time I logged in to multiple user accounts within the same domain on my machine, using multiple tabs (1 tab for my super admin, two other tabs for my users), the users’ accounts would not show chat, labs, accounts, or themes.

On the other computer, I was able to login to multiple accounts (my super admin, plus user-level accounts) using a separate tab for each, and chat, labs, accounts, and themes were all present on each gmail settings page at the same time. This helped me narrow down that the issue was related just to my primary computer.

The first thing I noticed about my primary computer is that my chrome browser, which I use exclusively, has a google talk/chat extension installed and enabled. For kicks, I disabled it, closed down chrome browser and reopened all three apps user accounts in chrome browser. Chat, accounts, labs, and themes gmail settings tabs were present in all three apps domains user accounts. Problem solved.

Conclusion: The google talk (chat) chrome browser extension enabled will:
* Limit talk/chat features to strictly the 1 apps account which is selected as primary for chrome.
* All other apps user accounts opened in the same browser will no longer see tabs in gmail settings for accounts, labs, chat, or themes. Interesting that the extension affects more than just the chat tab.

–Conflict Isolated to Google Apps, not Regular Gmail–
However, since regular Gmail (not Google Apps) and Google Apps accounts are separate systems, having the google talk/chat chrome browser extension enabled with a Google Apps user will not prevent a regular Gmail account, in a separate tab, from simultaneously having chat/talk enabled, nor will it prevent settings tabs from appearing for: chat, labs, accounts, themes. Almost daily, for several months, I successfully switch between a regular Gmail account in 1 chrome browser tab, to a Google Apps Gmail account (my super admin) in another chrome browser tab, and have never experienced this problem. [Why would I do this, you ask? My regular Gmail account has my ported phone number to google voice, which is what I use for making business calls from my computer via GMail chat/talk, but my google apps account has a different google voice number that I use for making calls via Google Apps chat/talk.]

]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-49
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:06:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-49I am going to assume that you have suborganizations defined on your domain since without any suborganizations, all users have the same service on/off settings.

So to verify all of your users have these apps enabled (or not), go to the ‘Organization & users’ tab. Do you see a pane on the left side with a tree control that has your domain name at the root (top) and a plus sign (+) to the left of it? If so, then you do indeed have at least one suborganization defined.

Suborganizations are the only way I’m aware of that you can have users with different apps enabled/disabled. By default when a suborganization is created, it just inherits all of the settings from its parent org/suborg.

Now, go to a user that you wish to enable more apps for. You should have to have the suborganization that they belong to selected. Once you have the user displayed in the pane on the right, with their suborganization selected on the left, click on the ‘Services’ sub-tab above the list of users in the right pane and to the right of the currently selected ‘Users’ sub-tab. This will load the list of services/apps and whether or not they are enabled or disabled. It also tells you (to the right of the on/off button) whether it is inherited or overridden. If you see here that the services you have been trying to enable for your users are actually turned on, then you have reached a state that I do not know how you got in nor how you can get out of. But if you see they are in fact turned off here, then BINGO! You can now turn them on and save it.

Please report back with what you find following this process.

hth,
— robbie

]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Dustincpahttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-48
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:39:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-48update: reinstalling chat did not fix anything. however, making a user a super admin did enable the chat, accounts, and labs feature for that user.

so now my problem is this: how can i enable these features for all users without making them all super admins? looking at the privelages for super admin, i cannot discern anything there that would give them “chat” feature. this is just crazy. i must be missing a setting somewhere that super admins are exempt from, explaining why making my users super admins is the only way i can seem to enable chat.

i had a google apps reseller on contract to support our apps needs, but several hundred dollars later they had not fixed any issues but spent all their time trying to sell me apps from the marketplace.

thanks again for your help! google searches on the net for apps support forums and questions yield minimal results; where are all the apps admins discussing their issues? maybe i am finding very little because the best apps admin forums are exclusive to the paid versions of google apps, which the unpaid versions cannot acces?

]]>Comment on Add Labs to Google Apps email account by Dustincpahttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2009/01/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account-2/#comment-47
Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:00 +0000http://robnrob.com/blogs/robbie/archive/2009/01/14/add-labs-to-google-apps-email-account.aspx#comment-47Labs, chat, and accounts tabs in gmail settings are missing from my google apps users accounts, but my apps account has them and i am the primary apps super admin. we are using the free version of apps, less than 10 users, does anyone have certain knowledge of that being the problem? i have checked all settings to enable these in the dashboard tabs: settings, services, domains, etc. currently i have just uninstalled chat, am waiting a few hours to reinstall, and see if that helps.

of your sugestions above, the url modification is too cumbersome for someone of my tech aptitude to correctly deploy, remember, and maintain should anything ever go wrong. the domain settings i have checked and they are as correct as can be with a free google apps account.

this post was origrinally made in 2009… any new knowledge on this issue or availability of these features to user accounts in a free google apps account? it still bothers me that my primary user has all of these, but i cannot seem to get the features out to all other users: chat, labs, accounts, and even themes.

thanks for your help!

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-37
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:47:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-37 I’m in no way trying to belittle or diminish the issues you’re discussing here. You have obviously been deeply affected by how it all went down and I’m empathetic to your pain. Please do understand though, that it is not the kind of discussion I would like to have here on this post.

Thank you for you’re cooperation.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by virtualCableTVhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-36
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:27:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-36Robbie you would have had to been involved in the Yahoo group discussions back in the day to really appreciate the angst. Furthermore, you would have to care deeply about the backstabbing and dirty tricks that went on and continue to this very day as they pertain to undermining the use of RSS as its not about an alternative to RSS at all its about backstabbing and dirty deeds exactly as put.

I already lost a career as an architect foolishly choosing to avoid rocking the boat and simply “moving on” as it is advocated but that was when I was still younger and niave and did not realize it was and is those doing the dirty deeds themselves that advocate how to respond. Hello?

Granted, we need not remain overtly concerned with the past but to forget the past and “those who done it” is to invite them to return to pollute what may be achieved in the present for I assure you getting back to the process of “solving it” will draw their attention and their presence as sure as sh!t draws flies if I may put it so bluntly as it has already happened in this page as anybody can read for themselves noticing how quickly Roger Cadenhead showed up here and how some are attempting to shove five pounds of Atom into a one pound bag regardless of what falls out of the bottom.

I am telling you too many of the Atom advocates simply do not want to “solve” anything Robbie they want to undermine RSS and if possible destroy RSS. Hopefully by reading the following article will put the fundamentals that may still be observed into context once and for all:

If they wanted to work collaboratively as colleagues they would not have been nor would they remain insidious vandals for years on end. What is stated in that article is not embellished and one must ask how simple is it for professional software developers as they are to use color or do they indeed intend to purposefully use color and such to hinder, obstruct and undermine RSS?

It is not a stretch to understand Joe The Manager submits the XML file developed by his employee or contractor Charlie The Programmer and then ignorantly and wrongly concluding Charlie’s work is FUBAR –and worse– Joe will say nothing but Charlie will never work again all because some insidious vandals presumed to speak authoritatively and marked up Charlie’s work to appear as if it were in error and therefore of questionable worth.

Furthermore, what of polluting the use of RSS by marking it up to appear as it it were in error when it does not include the use of the Atom <link> element? When that Atom element is used validation will no longer allow the use of elements and attributes in the <channel> element itself forcing a one or the other choice that cripples and disallows the declarative use of elements and attributes in the channel used to link to the channel’s origen. Only a fool or somebody who has not yet acquired the experience to know believes undermining RSS in this way was simply accidental.

I say again then, you would have had to been involved in the Yahoo group discussions back in the day to really appreciate the angst as what occurred still stare us all in the face.

So you see, in my book and in accordance with everything I have been taught throughout my entire life one does not simply ignore the fact that there are cockroaches in the pantry, as once seen and observed what the cockroaches leave behind makes it unpalatable to sit down at the dining room table to enjoy a good meal without knowing somehow they may be eating cockroach droppings that were left in the ingredients used to create their meal.

Hence the first thing that must be done to –git’ er’ done– is to face the facts of what has occurred, make it and keep it a recognized matter of public record and then move forward to make a clean start breaking with the past (and if neccessary the vandals themselves as they are no longer needed) so all who may be concerned will know the kitchen has been and will be kept swept clean and the floors must be and will be mopped regulary or the cockroaches will get into the pantry and sh!t all over everything all over again. And I don’t know if you understand yet Robbie but our customers and the Manager Joes have an even longer memory than I. I didn’t get it until I passed 40 and I paid dearly for my liberal youth.

In large part this I contend is what caused RSS to begin to fall out of favor as your every day good ol’ boys writing code had to sell their choice of using RSS to customers and managers who had to answer to their customers or their executives and I ask who would risk it all when they saw cockroaches in the pantry?

I hope you and everybody can understand this metaphor as learning from it will I contend determine any chance of success moving forward. There is always room to disagree and argue merits of this or that but insidious vandalism must not be tolerated and the validator(s) must be swept clean of all remnants of what the cockroaches have left behind as it is the validator(s) that stand in between our work and the mind’s eye of the customer. Perhaps some of the younger and most talented developers will agree and write new validators as the old ones developed by Sam Ruby et al. are in fact soiled with cockroach droppings.

As for actually providing links to my work I am not ready for that at the moment but I do have some ideas how to begin anew.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by danmactoughhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-35
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:50:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-35You also can have an arbitrary number of elements — one of those could be the profile uri, although it’s not a semantically ideal solution. But then again, if you’re trying to map your specific ontology into a pre-existing template, trade-offs are inevitable.
]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-34
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:44:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-34Right, it does allow for any URI, but my other issue was that then I would not have a place for what I describe here as the author’s profile uri

Thanks again for all of the feedback and suggestions.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by danmactoughhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-33
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:38:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-33The Atom spec tells you that you can use the uri for anything you want. But if you insist that it doesn’t work for you, by all means make something that does.
]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-32
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:35:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-32 Sure there is. Reason #1 is that is not the author’s URI. Reason #2 is if I did that, where would I store the author’s URI?

Not trying to be picky, but I am trying to use elements for what they are intended.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by danmactoughhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-31
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:22:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-31 There is nothing preventing you from using for the gravatar URI.
]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-30
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:57:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-30 Although I do not share the same anger towards those that spawned an alternative to RSS, I do agree with the problems we now (and have before) face. Rather than me continuing the conversation about whodunnit though, I’d love to get down to the lets-solve-it. 😉

Could you provide me with either a link to information describing the namespace(s) extensions you have done or a link to a feed containing those related to author? Us small fries can do a lot when we work together, and what I’m working on has the potential to be incorporated by some of the biggest content producers on the internet now.

Thank you for taking the time to clearly state your position here.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-29
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:48:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-29 Not reinventing the wheel is the reason why I am looking for a standard to support *all* of the meta data I need. only provides name, uri, and email, but I need an avatar uri as well.
]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-28
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:38:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-28 Thanks, but as I not-at-all-clearly pointed out in my post, atom’s author element only provides their person fields: name, uri, email. There is still no avatar field.
]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by virtualCableTVhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-27
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:36:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-27Robbie you are expecting RSS and Atom to support robust taxonomies but where might we ask oursleves and how might we ask ourselves to draw a line which once crossed as it must still allow us to achieve the objectives of the diverse descrioption of reality and all of its subsquent iterative nuances?

That is what namespaces and extensions are used for. Having been “into” RSS day one I happen to agree namespaces remain the best way to respond to extensibility. For example in 1999 nobody had even heard of the term avatar. So how do we respond to not knowing what we do not know? How do we extend the unknowable? Well as I’m sure you have read I remind you and others that the answer is spelled out here…

Now the bias for Atom which in this instance remains indicative of the dishonesty perpetuated by those who day one began to insinuate Atom is somehow better than RSS and it becomes quite obvious how rancid and stinky such inferences are when it is a fact the Atom element does not support “avatars” either. This dishonesty has been the bane of syndicated content since day one.

I have extended RSS having used namespaces myself. I have not marketed either of the two modules as of yet and therein is the challenge. We are all able to extend RSS as wanted but to do so we have to then market and encourage other developers to support and use the extended modules if we wish our extensions to go viral so to speak. Yahoo Media RSS was quite successful in that regard albeit the Yahoo! brand helped make it possible but that is not to say small fry like most of us do not have any opportunity to succeed.

The problem then becomes file bloat as each XML file can and would become inundated with who knws how many declared namespaces? We have the means to avoid that dilemma with “socialized” namespaces but that requires collaborative agreement and consensus bringing us “back to the future” where we started day one when the likes of those biased for Atom started undermining RSS when we would all have been much better off working together to learn to use RSS in instances that could one day allow us to respond to what would not be known and needed until some time in the future because if you are an honest man of integrity you are compelled to admit Atom is just as FUBAR as RSS in its inability to make it possible to respond to know what we do not know so we’re left with the same dilemma regardless.

And think of it, Atom is what it is and there is nothing inherently wrong with Atom or any reason to dislike it at face value however if we had learned to work together back in the day and avoid allowing the Atom poo-poo people who dissed RSS at every opportunity instead of rolling up the sleeves and doing what we could have done with RSS the p.o.s. Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook would never have emerged as RSS would have continued to become as pervasive as HTML and we would not likely be experiencing what has become a persistent dilemma.

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by Rogers Cadenheadhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-26
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:54:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-26If you are happy with what Atom provides in the atom:author element, you can use it in RSS feeds.

It is already a well-adopted best practice in RSS to use atom:link to identify the feed’s URL, a capability that RSS lacks:

]]>Comment on A Standard For Describing An Item’s Author In RSS by danmactoughhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2012/05/a-standard-for-describing-an-items-author-in-rss/#comment-25
Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:51:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=161#comment-25If you like the Atom 1.0 author element, you can feel free to use it in your RSS 2.0 feed. Just declare the namespace xmlns:atom=”http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom” in your root element (if you haven’t already done so), and wherever you want to plunk your author field, instead use the element. No need to reinvent the wheel if you don’t need to.
]]>Comment on Thing Two drew this for me this morning. I love her vivid imagination! by Louise Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2011/06/thing-two-drew-this-for-me-this-morning-i-love-her-vivid-imagination/#comment-22
Fri, 24 Jun 2011 04:35:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/2011/06/thing-two-drew-this-for-me-this-morning-i-love-her-vivid-imagination/#comment-22omg – she’s amazing. Looks just like you…
]]>Comment on Sneaky Little Thing Two by Robbie Colemanhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2011/06/sneaky-little-thing-two/#comment-14
Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:32:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=133#comment-14it’s not that the area is too dangerous, but that when I leave after 8pm, the buses do not run as often and therefore it can take over an hour for me to get home. If you’re married, you will understand the protocol involved here bro. ;-}
]]>Comment on Sneaky Little Thing Two by Auntie Valeriehttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2011/06/sneaky-little-thing-two/#comment-13
Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:32:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=133#comment-13I am surprised the numerous smileys didn’t tip you off. 🙂 As for being sneaky…she is a girl after her auntie’s heart!

Miss and love you all!

]]>Comment on Sneaky Little Thing Two by George Branchhttp://robbie.robnrob.com/2011/06/sneaky-little-thing-two/#comment-12
Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:09:00 +0000http://robbie.robnrob.com/?p=133#comment-12“and she can know that I am safe”

That must be some rough neighborhood where you’re catching the bus, Robbie