A piece offering advice to ladies who find themselves suspecting their partners of being creepy lolicon is currently proving immensely inflammatory amongst online lolicon.

The piece, by “adult writer” and “feminism researcher” Mikako Kikuchi, author of such incisive classics as “The Weird Fetishes Men Have”:

What’s the definition of a lolicon anyway!?

“Lolicon describes the sexual disposition of men who are sexually attracted to young girls. Those who like girls under 13 are generally described with the term ‘pedophilia.'”

Girls under 13 would basically be elementary schoolers. These days they grow precociously, and despite only being in the last years of elementary school there are many who are young in face but very much ripe in body. Perhaps this is why there are lolicon.

Why do men become lolicon?

“It’s said that men have a lower mental age than women, isn’t it? It’s also said that men select girls who more closely match their mental age. Also, as animals men have the objective of siring descendants. Men unconsciously select lively young things who look as if they can bear them healthy offspring with minimal risk.”

Men’s lolicon tendencies come from their desire for progeny, it would seem. A woman with a lolicon boyfriend may have no choice but to accept this.

I can enjoy lolicon together with my man!?

“Women stuck with a lolicon boyfriend may be able to cope by enjoying the pastime together with him. You can easily buy school uniforms by mail order. Some play involving cosplay and childish speech will surely excite him greatly.”

If your relationship has become stale, this is a sure-fire method of spicing it up. But many women will resist having anything to do this stuff. Isn’t there another way?

How to make him have eyes only for you!

“There is a way. That is to narrow your waist! Men are unconsciously looking at women’s bellies to determine if they can bear healthy offspring…

If your belly isn’t protruding, that is to say you are not pregnant, then he will unconsciously think you are ready to accept his seed. So if you have a pronounced figure, he’ll think of you as being fully fertile and stop thinking about young girls so much.”

You can kill two birds with one stone – cure your man of being a lolicon and develop a hot figure too!

So, try this and preparing a school uniform for cosplay purposes, and you’ll have nothing to worry about.

No discussion of lolicon could be complete without 2ch providing some first-hand perspective:

“Elementary schoolers are the best, aren’t they!”

“What’s wrong with being a lolicon!?”

“If your boyfriend is a lolicon it means you are a little girl.”

“This is a paradox.

If your boyfriend really was a lolicon, he wouldn’t be into you unless you were a little girl or else looked like one.

She just wants to attack anime and manga in the name of lolicon-bashing.”

“God, you don’t know what you’re talking about!”

“People who love lolicon should just pray they do not end up shotacon.”

“When hot guys like kids it’s because they have a healthy love of children, when creepy otaku do it’s because they are perverted lolicon.”

“Loli in 2D are great, but if some flat-chested loli-faced girl turned up as a delivery health girl I’d seriously droop.”

“3D loli are gross.”

“Women are at their most beautiful at 13.5!

So it shouldn’t come as any surprise at all that men are naturally attracted to girls of that age, but still they are called ‘lolicon.’

All that term means is that human culture has been twisted and warped. Mankind should again recognise that the acme of womanhood is at 13.5.”

“Even if they aren’t lolicon, it’s normal for a 50-year-old man to like women 30 years his junior. If they aren’t, there generally is a weird fetish involved.”

“My 20-year-old girlfriend looks like a middle schooler, and I have been asked if I’m a lolicon as a result. I just tell them I like cute girls.”

“Elementary schoolers aren’t there yet. They haven’t completely buried their childhood until middle school. They peak at high school age and it’s downhill from there. A woman who is still growing on the inside is great, but if they aren’t they are just going downhill.”

“The article reads like Agnes Chan. She doesn’t even approve of cosplay. The article itself seems to be aimed at women in their forties and fifties.”

“They can’t really be lolicon if they are in such a loving relationship. Except those lucky ones with loli-like girlfriends I suppose…”

“A lolicon would not have some old biddy as a girlfriend in any case.”

“We keep saying lolicon only applies to 2D. Having a sexual interest in real little girls is pretty dicey…”

“Lumping lolita complex together with pedophilia is itself strange. The author of this article needs to at least look in a dictionary.”

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“Men unconsciously select lively young things who look as if they can bear them healthy offspring with minimal risk.”

…which is entirely within the realms of natural nature as a whole. Many other animals practice this, and isolate the younger ones for reproductive purposes, as they do statistically in many cases provide the best chance of healthy offspring.

However, society says it should not be this way, and that is why we acquire lolicons (who like 2D material), and pedophiles (who like the 3D material), because we suppress natural urges and genetic conditioning to look for young objects for reproduction, all for the sake of preserving our children.

This conflict of interests is what sparks these debates unfortunately, and it won’t be changing anytime soon.

To all the pedo/witch hunting loli-bashers and to all of the pseudoscience/explain lolicon/ BS’ers. Society is shit and the only reason it is in place is because humans have become something where they place value in life and lifestyle. Yet before society their was biology. Mentally you are attracted to a little girl, I say “so what?”.

If you’re some creeper that is raping little girls fuck you and I will shoot you in the face BUT if you happen to get into a situation where you have an intimate relationship with someone that is thought of as “too young” in society, i do not blame you and you are not wrong for such activities. Living things are programed to do what they desire and humans are the only one with a vast diversity in paths that can be taken; Lions must hunt, they cannot choose to make medicine because it is not a possibility. Many things humans invent are seen throughout nature without bias and controversy and bias is only created through the discomfort of the human mind.

It’s not wrong to be attracted to young girls or lolicon & it is not wrong or uncalled for to want to protect your children (assuming anyone has one in this place) – if you can get on with life without pissing anyone off, so be it, but do not expect another party separate from your own to comply to your absolute rule. Soon the world government will be screwed anyway, and any sort of monarchy will be demolished and rebuilt. Hell, humans might not even last that long and they’ll be some sub race we accidentally create.

People are biggots if they try to explain anything in this universe and state it as absolute or pure. Just recently Einstein was proven wrong about his theory of relativity and it supposedly going to “changed science forever”. Shut the hell up and move on – The universe is full of creation and chaos and there is nothing you can do about it, so live a free-life.

“It’s said that men have a lower mental age than women, isn’t it? It’s also said that men select girls who more closely match their mental age.”

Except my very first crush was on a woman who was at least 15 years my senior (at most 20). I had to be 8 at the time but she was hot. Unfortunately to her, I was just the cute kid that would come around most weekends. If there’s one thing that I’ve learned from then to right this moment it’s that you can’t help who you fall in love with.

It’s said that men have a lower mental age than women, isn’t it? It’s also said that men select girls who more closely match their mental age. Also, as animals men have the objective of siring descendants. Men unconsciously select lively young things who look as if they can bear them healthy offspring with minimal risk.”

I take offense to this whole statement
Dang Feminist (May sound ironic since i am just doing the opposite but in this case 100% true)

Well the way I see it that if someone a lolicon, it because if it can happen it’s not really to do harm it that just need someone that they can cherish them. because a loli can understand that you are or you were hurt at one time and remembering that one odd girl that would come over to you and tries everything she can to try and cheer you up. and now after so many years when you see this girl you still only see her as that one girl the way she was originally. Those moments never last but the memory last forever….

little girls dont see you as their personal wallet yet, when they start to, mid to late highschool, is when they turn rotten in my eyes… granted not everyone is like that, but shit… anyone who is attractive enough i would consider fucking is.

A girl doesn’t need an article to tell her what her options are if her boyfriend is into lolis. You either accept his preference, or you don’t. If you don’t, you can either tell him to keep it to himself, or end the relationship. If you accept it, then it’s not an issue.

Personally, I can’t see most women being alright with a man finding children sexually attractive. It rebels against everything that involves a woman’s instinctive inclination to protect children – her maternal instincts, if you will. So unless you’ve given up on the possibility of the company of a woman in your bed, I would advise keeping that aspect of your sexual deviancy to yourself.

This woman doesn’t know what the hell she’s talking about. Typical. Here’s an example. While it would “excite” me if my girlfriend cosplayed as a schoolgirl(hell, anything would do, ie, Zelda), that doesn’t make me a lolicon.

Wow, I wonder if she even read her own argument. Non-sequester logic, miss-classifications of the subject, then posing hypothesis on faulty logic and misconceptions.

The cause of lolita complex is much simpler than these pseudo-pyschologist want to think it is. It’s 100% provable that sexual activity in teenagers does not impact their development beyond becoming sexually active at an earlier age. They’ve been doing the stuff with each other for a long time, and only a stupid parent would believe otherwise. Pretty sure the people harboring a lolita complex understand this and it’s implications, and would otherwise be the type to go after the just reached legal age crowd.

These woman seem to think only men have weird fetishes, but woman have them too. In fackt there are countless fetishes out there: cosplay, leather, latex, bondage, etc. A formal female classmate of mine told me that she has a weakness for mens bodyscent. She hates it when her boyfriend youses deodorants or anything that masks his scent. She even admitted that as forplay, she sometimes is sniffing his armpits,becaouse it turns her on.

Having a fetish is most of the time normal (unlyke stuff such-as bestyality, necrophylia and such. That is just sick), and it can refresh your lovelife. Of course you shoudn’t do it every time you have sex. Its just a new thing to experience and get to know your partner better. 🙂

You can like little children all you want, but regardless of whatever reasoning you think up to justify it, going after a minor is a criminal offense. You. Will. Be. Locked. Up. According to current society, IT IS WRONG. Please, quit preaching to the choir, and move on with your lives. You may not be able to realize your lolicon dreams, but hey, you can at least try engaging in women who’ve actually come of age. I assure you, your lower half will be sufficiently enthusiastic once you’ve got a naked woman in your bed.

This article really isn’t all that bad. One unlike most Feminists she isn’t measly stating “Lolicons go kill yourself because your a disgrace with a lack of morals and blah blah blah” she is saying “If the person you love indeed likes the features of loli’s then just indulge him in it and you’ll both be happy” I like this idea, granted this article would be slightly better without the not so subtle jabs at men’s “Mental age”. I don’t think trying to prove that women are “mentally superior” is the point of this message but she just had to throw it in there to keep the feminists reading. or else they’d probably just burn her alive themselves for her spouting such “Blasphemy” In the end I do agree with her on some notes, I don’t like to blame anything on genetics or “Human Nature” because all people are different, I will say that certain differences with peoples brains and their childhood do directly effect what they find “Sexually Appealing” and that no one should directly be held responsible for what fetishes they have, ALTHOUGH if they chose to act on these fetishes to do things completely inhuman and unreasonable (such as idk raping a loli or something terrible like that) then yes it is a horrible thing and they deserve to be punished, but just because one person that likes lolis did something terrible it doesn’t mean that EVERY lolicon will be a rapist. People are all different and I blame society for shunning things that people like which drives them to further push away from society and possibly lash out against it. The end

This is a problem of old bitches not being able to accept the fact that they are simply just that, too old to get what they want, which is a younger man who is interested in guess what, a woman younger than they are.

As much as you hate your own man boobs, cutting them off or taping them down is NOT the solution. Just go on a diet and exercise already. No need to descend into madness over being stinky, obese, and shunned.

“These days they grow precociously, and despite only being in the last years of elementary school there are many who are young in face but very much ripe in body. Perhaps this is why there are lolicon.”

Are you fucking kidding me? Japanese feminists blame THE CHILDREN for pedophiles?

The REAL answer for “What To Do If Your Boyfriend is a Lolicon” is: “Get two computers, let him watch loli anime porn on one, while you watch hot guys on the other. Go at it doggy style while watching the monitors.”

There was probably a reason this was originally in Japanese. Because well I wouldn’t go as far as to say most of Japan are pedophiles but, little girl gets assaulted in Japan I would be sad/mad but I wouldn’t be all that surprised. Harsh but really we know the internet, we know the insane amount of child pornography there is and where the majority of it comes from.

““It’s said that men have a lower mental age than women, isn’t it? It’s also said that men select girls who more closely match their mental age. Also, as animals men have the objective of siring descendants. Men unconsciously select lively young things who look as if they can bear them healthy offspring with minimal risk.””

ROFL THAT’S A JOKE RIGHT? is this girl “reseacher” mentally retarted or something?
Stupid feminists, more and more grotesque.
“it is said”, wtf, can’t you be a bit serious whore?
Sex is pervertion, it’s human, and men are often sexually more perverted, wtf the hormonal balance have to do with being “childish”.

Now that I think about it.
How about the girlfriends who are into Shotacon???
We just have to accept that it’s normal for them and we shouldn’t give one shit and that we can leave if we have any problems with it.

seriously.. you all are just too angry… most of the is surprisingly positive coming from a femanazi.

Younger mental age, plus! Does everyone not always complain about crazy old Japanese Politicians? Young mental age could mean immature, or it could mean idealist dreamer.

She is saying, essentially, that being attracted to young girls with curves is normal and healthy, she says DEVELOPED “ripe in body”, read you fools.

She associates natural behaviors of humans in association to that of our animal instincts in our primal desire to breed and reproduce in survival of the fittest nature.

She recommends women play to the primal nature of men… seriously.. coolest feminist ever…

Women and men are not the same, so no they are not equal, they each have their strengths and weaknesses, but should be equal under law.

Modern relationships are not just based on sexual attraction, so the paradox crap that is mentioned is also garbage.. you guys mention that you are men and you use logic.. try not to fall into fallacies.. dumbasses

No offense, but to me this is one of those things that is unique to Japan.

I won’t judge it but I dunno.

Here in America, lolicon equals pedo. Weither it’s 2d or 3d interest.

I don’t rage against pedos mind you (although there needs to be strict laws against them) and I know that the lolicon thing is more nuanced than that but as a regular ass 20 something American dude it doesn’t register.

When we come of age, we lust after women not girls.

On this article by the writer, it reaffirms just how convoluted this thing is….

“If your belly isn’t protruding, that is to say you are not pregnant, then he will unconsciously think you are ready to accept his seed. So if you have a pronounced figure, he’ll think of you as being fully fertile and stop thinking about young girls so much.”

Heaven forbid ladies actually have some meat on their bones or not have model like figures. Frankly as a general ballpark estimate for me, Japanese ladies are way too skinny but whatever.

“No offense, but to me this is one of those things that is unique to Japan.”

Nope, the converse is unique to the anglosphere. Anglos are not attracted to young girls. The rest of the world is. You rule the world however and promote women’s freedom and your ideas relentlessly, you force men to give up the young girls wherever you rule or influence.

i love lolis because if this kind of women….they are just too stupid.
with a loli you can talk about anything and not get flamed for not agreeing with her…..
Lolis, because of they youth, aren’t brainwashed like older women. You can actualy talk logicaly and discuss and teach her….that is what most people would consider being open minded, but no, if you are a child lets just treat her as a child, aka like a retard.
This idiots really understimate children….and also….a femminist….what else can i say…
being taggued as femminist is like have a sign that says “i’m an idiot, i dont reason because i’m a woman, i’m special, i’m always right, men are stupid, rapists, and have wierd fetishes, and also have lower mental age, thats why they choose younger girls, and again because they are rapists”

You females ask too much in a relationship. If you love someone you love his good and bad parts. So if he is a Lolicon, live with it. We men love you women the way you are too, right?
So STF’ about it. Lolicon isn’t a decease!!

Lolicons aren’t pedophiles, the sense of 2D and 3D is totally diferent and some Lolicons even go as far as detesting pedo’s more than normal people do.
As for dumping… If he dates you then it should be common sense that his love for you is more dominant than his Lolicon side.
Or are we the only ones who can think normal nowadays…

It is very normal to fap to loli since there’s such a huge amount of people doing it.
The whole pedophilia doesn’t even go against nature, it shows that you’re an intelligent being for finding younger girls attractive. You get them before anyone else does.

I’m not into the whole 3D either, though. I think children should stay children, but that doesn’t give you the right to tell us what we can and cannot masturbate to. Everyone has their own taste and liking loli should be just as accepted as being a homosexual or liking cheerleader outfits.

YOU are a horrible human being and should consider how it’s like from our point of view. We shouldn’t have to justify ourselves as there is no reason to.

Correction: VKei fangirls like men who look like older women. They’re already prettier than us, it’ll be more insulting if they were younger than us too. They’re like fine wine that get better with age.

Your example is flawed because you choose to omit that said man fantasizes about loli/moe anime and faps to Azunyan/other loli character along with a shitload of other departures from normative behavior and is basically a dirty bastard. And THAT’s what makes him a douchebag lolicon.

You can bet that the woman in your example that thinks a little boy is cute sure isn’t on Sankaku getting upset over perceived lolicon otaku prejudice while scrolling through pics of 2D loli characters in various states of undress or acts of perversion like the Mayo Chiki or Yuru Yuri articles. And she sure isn’t thinking what you were thinking, sick fuck.

Setting aside the lolicon aspect, she is effectively saying, “If your boyfriend is a lolicon, the problem is with YOU. YOU (the woman) need to FIX yourself; you need to change yourself to match the idealized object of his desires, and then everything will be fine.”

Nonsense. We had many of those before they grew old and died because feminism was no longer necessary in their countries.
We even still have some remaining, but they are hard at work in actually helping women in the middle east instead of bitching about the most irrelevant things.

We can just project him! You can project any n-space object into m-space without loosing information for m>0

[size=2]Disclaimer: Linear projection is not guaranteed to preserve information processing capabilities of projected subjects. Side effects may include disbelief in 3D, allergic reaction to paper, polygonal discrimination, nausea, death, loss of mass and fear of mathematics. Linear projection is a prescription-only medicine. Consult your physician before undertaking any form of non-Newtonian transformation.[/size]

“men select girls who more closely match their mental age. Also, as animals(!?) men have the objective of siring descendants.”

So we men are animals, but women arent?
What about all those women who have something going on with a guy younger then them? Or those girl who want to (or are doing it already) with 2 guys at once? Isn’t that animalistic? 🙂

That statement is oversimplification. Subcontious attraction to strait guys is more than just a cheap diet plan. It’s not just a skinny waist, it is the Waist/Hip ratio. It’s not nessesarily how skinny a girl’s waist is to fit in a tiny dress, but how small a girl’s waist looks in comparison to her hips. That is scientific fact which can be tested worldwide. It goes back to our instinct to pick women who would be healthy enough to survive childbirth, or at least appear to be so. We have since gotten past the point of acting purely on instinct, but strait men still have that subcontious draw to a certain hip/waist ratio in the back of our head.

However, also connected to that subcontious draw is going after young women. Not pre-pubescent children as is the case with Pedophilia, but with pubescent or just post-pubescent teens or young adults, i.e Ephebophilia. This has to do with the child actually being healthy after childbirth and growing up. It can be observed that when older women have children, the kids are more likely to have physical or mental problems or defects while growing up. The children of young women tend to have much fewer developmental problems while growing up or in adulthood (whether or not the girl is mentally prepared to raise a child at a young age is an entirely different story). So despite what society tells us otherwise, the attraction to teenagers by men of all ages is perfectly normal, as it is something the evolutionary process decided that strait men would have a subcontious bias to.

However, as for the ideas of Lolicon and Pedophilia, I put a clear deliniation between the 2. Lolicon to me is the attraction to 2D girls who are very childlike in appearance. Pedophilia I keep as it’s proper scientific definition as the attraction to pre-pubescent girls or boys, as in real life ones. The difference is a very important one to make, as Lolicon hurts no one and affects nobody’s life except your own. Sex with a real, flesh and blood, pre-pubescent child, the end result of Pedophilia, is something I cannot condone. As it has the potential to hurt everybody but yourself. One is ultimately harmless and the other has a great deal of potential for a lot of harm. Which one do you think is the real threat?

That is the cardinal sin this article commits is counting Lolicon and Pedophilia as one in the same. One is hurtful, the other is harmless, unless we find out that paper, ink and computer pixels have feelings.

Another idiot who doesn’t understand the term as it is used in Japanese. Lolicon is short for “lolita complex” a word that very much applies to real life 3D girls as well as 2D girls. This jap feminazi isn’t even talking about cartoons at all.

“It’s said that men have a lower mental age than women, isn’t it? It’s also said that men select girls who more closely match their mental age.”

Stopped reading there.

The truth is much simpler: is she ovulating? If so, then she’s ready to bear children, and men are attracted to her. Most women have their menarche when they’re 12/13 years old. A perfect loli, but in fact a woman ready to copulate. Instinct, human nature, that’s all, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I think that’s what all the conflict is about. The laws of nature vs. the laws of society. Nature says she’s ready to go but people no. I guess you could also say it’s humans denying their baser animal instincts but I’m not going to get into that.

If an agent from the future could go back in time and shoot queen Victoria, no one would believe this. It’s only because of Victorian England that the age of consent was ever raised to absurd levels. Goddamn prudes.

Given her shitty advice (basically telling women to make themselves look ‘impregnable’ for their boyfriend) she really doesnt sound like a feminist to me. She either doesnt know what one is or just likes to read/study them without actually being one.

What a stupid book, if your boyfriend is a lolicon, WAIT YOUR BOYFRIEND LOLICON AND HE MAKES YOU HIS GIRLFRIEND!? THAT MEANS HE LIKES YOU AND END OF STORY, what a bunch of useless book explaination that makes misunderstanding more deep than usual, this book hurts people’s feeling like, wait i know you are lolicon, i brought some school cloth to wear to excite you. You = FUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Beyond definition… This feminist writer speaks pretty much only by theory.

Human nature is fickle, whilst it has some understandable patterns, it also has absolutely no patterns. She also shows some of her feminist views coming out, and the bad kind that turns men inferior… See the part where she talks of “mental age”.

Basically, this bitch doesn’t even know what she’s talking about… It’s just an article portraying her biased, feminist view of lolicons, and men. Disguised as an advice article.

Is that so? If a lower mental age leads to having a dream, to believe in true love, to be good at math, to love logic. What is than the problem of having a lower mental age? I think it is way better than beeing a stuffy old man.

Lower mental age doesn’t necessarily imply lower intelligence.
The wish for stability (for having kids) is usually considered maturity, this does happen much sooner for females (and might never for men), likely because females only have a healthy reproductive lifespan of only 30 years compared to 60 years for males, and need of nest for fostering the children.

So females will stop playing and start to do only “home decoration” to create a nest, being mature.
While men move from building and playing with toy cars to building and playing with real cars. Which doesn’t have a reproductive purpose, but creates the basis of our technological society as a side-effect.

There’s also the little known fact that womens brains stop developing a few years sooner, whereas mens IQ will keep increasing during their 20s (adult men have a slightly higher IQ, and much larger brain with more synapses, than females, but IQ statistics are usually biased towards language skills and sampled at a lower age, where genders have an equal IQ creating the illusion of gender equality)

I kinda like the article, it’s sexist and logic,
doesn’t consider the thing interpreted as “lolicon” as unnatural, and is stating a lot of true facts about human instinct.
To female readers it could be summarized as:
“You got lolicon boyfriend? Get over it, stop being a fatty and wear a sukumizu to turn him on!”
Maybe I’m strange, but I don’t see anything negative about that message f^^;

[quote]Lower mental age doesn’t necessarily imply lower intelligence.
The wish for stability (for having kids) is usually considered maturity, this does happen much sooner for females (and might never for men), likely because females only have a healthy reproductive lifespan of only 30 years compared to 60 years for males, and need of nest for fostering the children.[/quote]
There is some guy called William Stern who disagrees with you. But what who cares about what he thinks? He just invented IQ testing as a means of measuring mental age, I’m sure he wouldn’t know anything about it.

[quote]While men move from building and playing with toy cars to building and playing with real cars. Which doesn’t have a reproductive purpose, but creates the basis of our technological society as a side-effect.[/quote]
As a side effect? I hardly call spending half your life in getting your doctorate a “side-effect” of anything.
Also, you have a woman to thank for discovering modern particle physics and a little insignificant thing called atomic energy as a consequence.

[quote]There’s also the little known fact that womens brains stop developing a few years sooner[/quote]
There is a little known fact that you just made that up.

[quote]adult men have a slightly higher IQ[/quote]
Why do people only hear statistics in the way they want them?
On SOME tests, women are shown to score UP TO 5 points less (that is 5 OR LESS) compared to men ON AVERAGE. On these same tests however, women are far more likely to score AVERAGE or ABOVE-AVERAGE intelligence, while men are more likely to score BELLOW AVERAGE or HIGH.
And 5 points of IQ roughly equates 6 month mental development time, so this is hardly a major difference.

[quote]but IQ statistics are usually biased towards language skills and sampled at a lower age[/quote]
If your IQ tests shows very different results for the same person of a different age, then you are doing it wrong. IQ does not significantly change with age. That’s the whole point of it.

I might be off but I think the poster was referring to that the large difference in brain size and synapse count between man and woman mostly develops after the mid teens together with other secondary sexual characteristics.

this could also be said in reverse, where that means that since the mental age of a woman is higher, they start having an affair with a 60 y/o man while still in high school. so is the old man the lolicon in this case…?

lol if men have a lower mental age then women shouldn’t be women who should be punished more in courts if they had sex with boys since they are have such a high mental age and more forgiving to men at courts if they had sex with girls because of their lower mental age

You can like little children all you want, but regardless of whatever reasoning you think up to justify it, going after a minor is a criminal offense. You. Will. Be. Locked. Up. According to current society, IT IS WRONG. Please, quit preaching to the choir, and move on with your lives. You may not be able to realize your lolicon dreams, but hey, you can at least try engaging in women who’ve actually come of age. I assure you, your lower half will be sufficiently enthusiastic once you’ve got a naked woman in your bed.

What weird about this debate is that its about 2D girls, but people are talking about it as if its real life pedophilia.
I like 2D, but I wont set my sights on real young girls, because it isnt right in my morals.
Anyway people naturally like people who are younger than them. Its not just men who like young girls, women like young boys too. Its just that, as ever, women keep it in their fantasies and always keep it there, whereas men dont and tries to make their fantasy a reality.

@ 大和魂
“So according to what you’ve said, it’d be somewhat of a taboo for adult men to not be attracted to adolescent girls”

You’re falling from one extreme to the other, it’s all a large gray area.
Although the most “natural” or mentally “healthy” age for a male to be attracted to, are a females most fertile early 20s,
we accept other preferences that aren’t biologically sound to be acceptable (even being attracted to different types of clothing is “normal”), so why consider some that are, even if not intended to put into practice, an absolute taboo?

Exploitation (which wasn’t even discussed in the article) is a different matter, independent of sexual attraction and reproductive function.

“In general, I still fail to see the point you’re to make by giving your “explanation.”

If you’re referring to 09:31
The main point was, albeit indirect, that arguing using an incoherent assortment of “Famine, poverty, natural disasters, genocide, drought, war, and religion” is idiotic.
And that, opposite to what you’ve stated, the general acceptance of sexual activity among (but not with) minors is a very recent development.

Or in short, that absolutely everything you’ve written in 06:19 is bullshitt.

If you ask about 03:23, the point was that “normal” and “natural” are two very different concepts.

“Artefact is just a master at yellow journaling and you tools are taking it seriously.”

You’re not differentiating between the issue and the website. Are we not allowed to take something seriously only because it’s posted on sankaku?

An individual will have several different outlooks on what is and what isn’t normal.

And as implied by the “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” saying, attractiveness is completely subjective to the individual. So according to what you’ve said, it’d be somewhat of a taboo for adult men to not be attracted to adolescent girls, or may categorize them as being [mentally] unhealthy.

In most societies, however, it’s thought to be the exact opposite. As in, it obviously isn’t seen as “normal” to them in what I assume to be your definition of the word.

Logically, man’s attraction to the “physically developed” bodies possessed by some adolescent girls would result in the exact opposite of pedo/hebephillia; the developed bodies possessed by some adolescent girls and the developed bodies possessed by most adult women.

In general, I still fail to see the point you’re to make by giving your “explanation.”

All of SanCom’s naivety aside, the most genuine psychological theory for the men of Japan’s lust of children is social ineptitude: these men aren’t capable of holding relationships with women of their own age, rather unintentionally exploiting the unstable psyche of youths for whatever purpose instead.

Artefact is just a master at yellow journaling and you tools are taking it seriously.

I’m more than willing to provide my valid sources which supports the fact that just because a child may be “physically” fit for sexual intercourse, doesn’t mean they are mentally/psychologically, if you do so for yours.

Being consistent with the “beauty is in the eyes of the beholder” saying, what one considers to be “attractive” is completely subjective, and it’s plain silly to basically claim that all men are sexually attracted to adolescents. Even if that were the case, what truly justifies them acting out on these sexual urges, other than physical possibility?

No matter how gerontophobic many of SanCom’s users are, there’s age of consent laws for a reason.

No one here is going to change that, no matter how many asinine arguments are voted up here

You might have noticed that I argued that neither a homosexual relationship nor sex with an infertile woman is biologically sound, but I never stated that it should be illegal, or that a 13year old should be.

大和魂: “How does this justify child fucking?”

It doesn’t, it only explains why it’s odd to consider it a mental illness to even be slightly attracted to bodys of this age.

But in contrast to your implied and slightly arbitrary reasoning, it would be illogical to use history as an example which argues in favour of “child fucking” and needs to be overcome.

Prior to the recent deterioration of morals and advanced contraception, parents actually protected their children.
And most North-Eurasian societies independent of religion endorsed sexual abstinence before marriage.
Which interestingly happened mostly at an age after full personality development (21+) or with parental consent.

But what we’re facing at the moment is that it’s considered increasingly normal for children at an age of early psychological development engaging in “child fucking” (which might even condition them to consider sex partners of this age the most desirable, even in later stages of life), while in contrast, adults taking part in it is a crime.

I’m not fond of ether of it happening, but believe that the treatment might be illogical.

In contrast I don’t consider the existence of virtual material and toys of any kind, supplying fantasies to a fully developed personality (~21 years of age) a problem, as unlike with children, the existing behaviour patterns and preference won’t change with consumption.
A fucked up pervert of this age will stay a pervert, and keeping material from it might only create an urge to “produce” such material on its own.
In this respect a liberal and honest handling of urges might be the most effective prevention of acts.

Famine, poverty, natural disasters, genocide, drought, war, and religion were also quite prevalent in humanity’s history till now, and it’s safe to say that one or more of these examples are already being viewed as “normal” to significant amounts of people.

So I hope that you’re not trying to say that just because of child fucking’s prevalence in past and present societies should justify it on some sort of scale.

And I hope all of those vote ups aren’t due to SanCom members interpreting it as being such,

“What makes you think young girls feels naturally attracted to old guys?”

Not much, the argument was not about consent but possible reproduction.
But whereas males only look for physical attractiveness. A large percentage of women are highly attracted to status, security and physical health, a young boy will lack the first two. Males 25 to 40 are more likely to provide all.
(remember sankaku news about what woman want in a husband… f^^; )

“No it doesn’t cause the old man’s seed is way over expiration date…”

I’s past it’s best before date, but still capable of reproduction, even with a much lower success rate.

“14 year old guy with 13 year old girl would make perfect sense, since they would be both at their peak of fertility.”

Females reach peak fertility aged 22 to 26 years. (correlating with what is considered most attractive and “hot” by the general public)
It’s five to ten years higher for males and decreases more slowly.

Women like youth also. I don’t know where the fuck men get this idea in their heads that young women will be all over them when they are past 40. If a woman likes you over that age, and in most cases 30+, it’s probably because you have money. And if you want a woman like that by all means keep her.

MOST women want a young, hot guy. Not some balding, wrinkly, ugly old man.

You need to differentiate “NORMAL” which is simply “what everyone does and thinks is right” and “NATURAL” which could be defined by looking at the basic biological parameters.

Sex of a 83 year old man with a 13 year old girl makes perfect biological sense.
A sexual relationship with a 55 year old women on the other hand could be considered as unnatural as active sexual pedophilia or homosexuality, as there is no reproductive purpose involved.

Reality doesn’t match up well with gender equality, and many, mostly women, will be deeply offended by it. (although it perfectly explains why almost ALL women try hard to look younger than 30…)

“Sex of a 83 year old man with a 13 year old girl makes perfect biological sense.”

Er no it doesn’t? What makes you think young girls feels naturally attracted to old guys? It’s nature that men prefer young girls, just like women prefer young guys. A man has to be very well preserved to be attractive at that age.

Lolicons are 2D, idiot. Why should we be locked up? You are the sick fuck here who thinks people not like yourself need to be punished (typical American person, sadly. Why does our country have no justice?)

What I don’t understand is why she’s trying to get people to cope with pedophiles and just ignore it. She’s not talking about 2D loli she’s clearly talking about pedophiles. If you are with a true pedophile, you need to GTFO that relationship and find a real man.

This woman is sick. She insults ALL men and then tells women to stay with the actual inferior men who want sex with kids. WTF?

[quote]…and find a real man.[/quote]
You don’t need any qualification to be a “real man”, other than being born with a dick. It’s almost as guessing heads or tails.

[quote]This woman is sick. She insults ALL men and then tells women to stay with the actual inferior men who want sex with kids. WTF?[/quote]
Attraction and desire to have sex are very different things, despite what your simple mind may be telling you. Many married men are attracted to women other than their wife but they don’t want to have sex with them. It’s the same thing.

This article surprisingly dodged the issue of having kids with a lolicon husband, which I would assume would be the first and foremost worry of women with lolicon boyfriends…beyond the whole dividing by zero paradox thing and all.

Not quite as nonsensical as I thought it’d be, but still kind of off. I suppose the role play might work, but the big issue is if he likes lolis in anime or is a real life pedo. Even I’ve been into one or two Rie Kugimiya characters even if I find the loli obsession in anime in general to be pretty disgusting. However, men who want to screw real little girls are potentially dangerous. I suppose you’re doing a public service by keeping them screwing an adult, but I doubt that’s much consolation.

But hey, like some posts have said, at least you must look young for your age if he’s that into lolis, so that’s something right?

The “Why do men become lolicon?” part is absolute bull if you ask me. My answer is, its because men like corrupting, being first, things you cant have, etc etc. And yeah, real life lolis are not attractive at all lol.

It is absolute bull. Men become lolicon because it’s adaptive. Men always want their partners to be as young as possible for 1)fertility of the girl and the quality of the offspring and 2) making sure that the offspring produced is actually his. A woman ALWAYS knows if the offspring is hers because she gives birth to the damn thing. A man can never be sure. And that is why men always prefer virgins so that they have a better idea about what’s going on. This bitch apparently failed simple high school biology.

Pure hearsay and conjecture, the offending Know-it-none Mikako Kikuchi statements are here by thrown out and with drawn. Let it be known she is fearful of what she remembered herself being when she was young if in fact she was born a girl and not a boy with a sex change or faking being a girl with a fake name writer. Here book is here by ordered to be re-written and re-done from a non old smelly hag point of view.

Oh here we go with more touchy subjects. Personally when it comes to lolicon in anime / manga, I can’t see the problem. I’ve heard of the whole underage manga / anime / cartoon / whatever characters’ effects on pedophilia and shit. I can’t say that I know everything about it and its a very subjective topic with countless things to think about.

Lolicon doesn’t bother and honestly, it was an old girlfriend of mine back in my sophomore year that introduced it to me. I’ve never seen such live fangirlery.

lol this bitch is crazy, fucking stupid, and incredibly feminist. “men see you as healthy when you’re skinny!” Not if yer ugly. “being skinny will make men look at you” I thought that was a given. though there are some wierd peeps that are into pregnancy (ewww) “a slim waist will make men want to give you their seed” true nuff. but the younger they are, the slimmer the waist >.> also, its a giant contradiction. Why would you have a girlfriend if you were a lolicon? chances are that you would’nt legally be aloowed to be with her anyways.

Wow I would understand a women interested in young boys but a men interested in yung girls is just unnatural , wrong , disgusting , morally unnacceptable if you have a lolicon boyfriend call the police or divorce etc… as soon as possible

Just put them all to western prisons and see what hapens to lolicons… Even the guy who killed 20 ppl in bank robery would be claped at, by kicking the lolicons asses. They are the scum of the earth and there is nothing changing it…