yeah I don't find the 'it's the Mason's' hysteria very convincing, being the daughter of one. Dad was a pretty harmless guy, maybe too harmless. You get good, bad and indifferent people in all the various categories.

If you think that Lucipher is a fellow alien(that wants to free his planet from an evil dictator) who is trying to make a better world for us so that we would be grateful for him and then help him, it doesn't sound as mean as you think!

As an atheist I believe that it would be somewhere along those lines ^^^

Albert Pike found an ammulet that would let him talk to Lucipher. Suspicious? Yes.

No, they are not all bad, but as with any human, you will find bad mixed in with mainly good. But they don't mess around with membership and do no accept felons or unethical brothers.

Oh, and I believe this fraternity is the main brotherhood running this world via the great work for the ultimate end goal of a one world community of peace and unity under the rule of law.

For example, I am for a one world government and new world order who has many skills that would help them, but I am a felon and they denied me membership simply based on my record.

If you are against a new order in our world, then maybe it is not the brotherhood for you.

Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV

Are you an atheist? If so, you could have been denied... Rather say that you believe that humans were created by aliens.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7050805

Far from it. Atheist are ignorant to their souls and creation for they simply do not know God and they have closed their souls to EVER knowing him or walking as him on earth.

No I believe in God. We are the solar children of God and some of us are his arch angels.

My ancestors sent me to them for we had started the main brotherhood under the rose. Hence, Masons and Templars were actually born from that which we started. However, no one in this current world seems to even know who started what or why? But I do because I AM ;)

No, seriously. They accept people of any religion and any race? I didn't know that. I thought they would only accept white satanists.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7050805

Any race, religion, or creed. Proud Blue Lodge Mason here... Met some of the most influential people in my life from the lodge, and I would never regret joining..

Quoting: Archaic Mason

That was all I was looking for and some guidance as well, but with your strict felon policies, your fraternity has banned me, a good man with current good report from joining.

I do understand this policy, but do not agree with it. However, as I mentioned above, I am now a member of the International Order of Gnostic Templars whom are waaay more open minded and dedicated mainly to Gnosis and the original Templars.

Hence, like you have no regrets,neither do I and I KNOW everything happens for a reason.

Maybe you should look into the IOGT as well archaic mason? That is if you are truly interested in the original Gnostic path of the original Templars.

That's the best you can come up with Opie?WOW I guess you are planning on joining, have at it.

Quoting: Evolving_Enigma

I think you forgot that the "good guys" (church) forced people to pay them and considered black people demons without a soul. They also had tremendous hatred for all other religions and they were work of the devil. At the same time, freemasons just wouldn't let blacks join; instead of killing them or using them as slaves like your amazingly good church.

If you think that Lucipher is a fellow alien(that wants to free his planet from an evil dictator) who is trying to make a better world for us so that we would be grateful for him and then help him, it doesn't sound as mean as you think!

As an atheist I believe that it would be somewhere along those lines ^^^

Albert Pike found an ammulet that would let him talk to Lucipher. Suspicious? Yes.