What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/789/#msg_789
Originally posted by: erkki.lap.ee

Sounds like an interesting proposal, but personally I would be more
interested in a similar project using Scala, or even Groovy.

Any chance this project would provide similar DSL-s in other languages
later?

Regards,
Erkki Lindpere]]>2008-01-24T17:57:25-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/804/#msg_804
Originally posted by: matthias.mysurname.com

That's what my first reaction was. For me a more natural fit would be
Groovy, but maybe that's just me.
In general it would be great to see a language independent API. If that's
impractical ports to Groovy an Scala would be great.]]>2008-02-08T08:59:35-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565400/#msg_565400
Groovy, but maybe that's just me.
In general it would be great to see a language independent API. If that's
impractical ports to Groovy an Scala would be great.]]>Matthias Luebken2008-02-08T08:59:35-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/822/#msg_822
building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something similar
in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog about it
(andymaleh.blogspot.com)]]>Andy Maleh2008-02-20T15:10:41-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565416/#msg_565416
building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something similar
in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog about it
(andymaleh.blogspot.com)]]>Andy Maleh2008-02-20T15:10:41-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/846/#msg_846
Originally posted by: erkki.lap.ee

Andy Maleh wrote:
> The proposal focuses on Ruby as the language, as it is very powerful at
> building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something similar
> in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog about it
> (andymaleh.blogspot.com)

I'm curious, is it done with meta-programming in Ruby? I searched a bit,
but couldn't easily find info about how glimmer is implemented.

I'm also planning to experiment with something similar in Scala (not for
SWT, but a custom component model), so I'd be really interested in
reading about that on your blog if you get around to that!

Erkki]]>2008-02-22T19:33:39-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565442/#msg_565442
> The proposal focuses on Ruby as the language, as it is very powerful at
> building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something similar
> in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog about it
> (andymaleh.blogspot.com)

I'm curious, is it done with meta-programming in Ruby? I searched a bit,
but couldn't easily find info about how glimmer is implemented.

I'm also planning to experiment with something similar in Scala (not for
SWT, but a custom component model), so I'd be really interested in
reading about that on your blog if you get around to that!

Erkki]]>Erkki Lindpere2008-02-22T19:33:39-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/875/#msg_875
extend it with new functionality:http://chirb.org/event/show/27

I can send you the slides by email. Please send a request to: andy{ at}
obtiva[ dot] com

To answer your question though, I did use meta-programming and reflection
to build Glimmer in Ruby. The Ruby language makes it super-easy to build
internal DSLs, and according to Neal Ford, a ThoughtWorks consultant who
gave a lecture on DSLs in the No Fluff Just Stuff Chicago conference last
December, Ruby provides more power than Groovy for building DSLs.

Due to popular mention of Scala though, I am exploring it right now as
another language for efficient development of Eclipse applications. The
idea of providing something similar to Glimmer in Scala is not that
remote, so if you would like to collaborate on it, let me know.

Are you attending EclipseCon 2008 by any chance? I'm there right now.]]>Andy Maleh2008-03-17T22:27:03-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565461/#msg_565461
extend it with new functionality:http://chirb.org/event/show/27

I can send you the slides by email. Please send a request to: andy{ at}
obtiva[ dot] com

To answer your question though, I did use meta-programming and reflection
to build Glimmer in Ruby. The Ruby language makes it super-easy to build
internal DSLs, and according to Neal Ford, a ThoughtWorks consultant who
gave a lecture on DSLs in the No Fluff Just Stuff Chicago conference last
December, Ruby provides more power than Groovy for building DSLs.

Due to popular mention of Scala though, I am exploring it right now as
another language for efficient development of Eclipse applications. The
idea of providing something similar to Glimmer in Scala is not that
remote, so if you would like to collaborate on it, let me know.

Are you attending EclipseCon 2008 by any chance? I'm there right now.]]>Andy Maleh2008-03-17T22:27:03-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565520/#msg_565520
> Due to popular mention of Scala though, I am exploring it right now as
> another language for efficient development of Eclipse applications. The
> idea of providing something similar to Glimmer in Scala is not that
> remote, so if you would like to collaborate on it, let me know.

What I'm working (just as a hobby initially) on is a UI component model,
that I hope will be usable for both web and desktop apps. I'm
concentrating on the web first, but when that side is working, I want to
explore "rendering" that component model into Swing or SWT widgets.

Maybe we can collaborate in the future, but at the moment I'm spending
very little time on this.

> Are you attending EclipseCon 2008 by any chance? I'm there right now.
>

Sadly, no.]]>Erkki Lindpere2008-03-18T21:45:49-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/935/#msg_935
Originally posted by: erkki.lap.ee

Andy Maleh wrote:
> Due to popular mention of Scala though, I am exploring it right now as
> another language for efficient development of Eclipse applications. The
> idea of providing something similar to Glimmer in Scala is not that
> remote, so if you would like to collaborate on it, let me know.

What I'm working (just as a hobby initially) on is a UI component model,
that I hope will be usable for both web and desktop apps. I'm
concentrating on the web first, but when that side is working, I want to
explore "rendering" that component model into Swing or SWT widgets.

Maybe we can collaborate in the future, but at the moment I'm spending
very little time on this.

> Are you attending EclipseCon 2008 by any chance? I'm there right now.
>

Sadly, no.]]>2008-03-18T21:45:49-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/565545/#msg_565545
> Andy Maleh wrote:
>> The proposal focuses on Ruby as the language, as it is very powerful
>> at building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something
>> similar in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog
>> about it (andymaleh.blogspot.com)
>
> I'm curious, is it done with meta-programming in Ruby? I searched a bit,
> but couldn't easily find info about how glimmer is implemented.
>

Cheers,
Ketan Padegaonkar,http://swtbot.org/ - a functional testing tool for SWT/Eclipse]]>Ketan Padegaonkar2008-04-04T06:30:02-00:00Re: What about Scala or Groovy?https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/308/965/#msg_965
> Andy Maleh wrote:
>> The proposal focuses on Ruby as the language, as it is very powerful
>> at building internal DSLs. I have been wanting to try out something
>> similar in Scala however. If I do, I will post something on my blog
>> about it (andymaleh.blogspot.com)
>
> I'm curious, is it done with meta-programming in Ruby? I searched a bit,
> but couldn't easily find info about how glimmer is implemented.
>