All the way to the back, on the right. There's the lone FJ in the parking lot, mine. And that is Montana Mountain in the background, for those that haven't seen it. AFAIK, mine was the only FJ on the Montana Mountain trails yesterday (trials 172+650). My wife and I made our first trip through there.

Since the last post in this thread was 2009, maybe it's time for an update. I've wanted to do this trip for quite awhile. The weather was great, but dry, no water anywhere.

172 and 650 are approximately equal length sections, with a total driving time of 4 to 5hrs. 172 is obviously the road to take for non-off roaders, heading to Rogers Trough to hike. Check out the variety of vehicles in the lot. Yes, it is bladed, but there is one switchback that is not a turn, really more of a V, with a turn around on it's end O<. Only a quad or dirtbike will negotiate it without making a few extra tries. On the other hand, trail 650 is not maintained. 172 is a 2.0 rating, and 650 would be a 2.5. While I used 4x4 high the whole way, there are plenty of full lock hairpins, good sized rocks, and a couple of washouts where the road is essentially gone. I saw 2 Jeeps on 650. The both asked how far it was back to the highway, and how the road was. They had come in the rough way(650 first). I HIGHLY recommended to a guy older than me in a Ext cab Tacoma 4x4 to turn around before taking the switchbacks up 650. He continued ... oh well, I warned him.

For FJs, this loop is a good day of four wheeling. If you haven't done it, give it a try.

Labor Day 2015. Did this run today awesome. Much harder than expected. Funtreks/Wells guidebook calls this one easy, no way. More off camber shelf roads than Walnut Canyon or Woodpecker, just no boulder crawling. I'd say moderate 2.0. Long trail give 5hrs with lunch. Watch those washouts!

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