As much as I want him to be in that fringe all-star/all-star range, I just don't see it happening. I'll take him all day as a solid starting small forward though.

I think that's what most of us think.

Are you including yourself in that "us"? I was under the impression you saw Green as a 20 ppg all-star.

I've got no objection to people who think Green can be a 15 point, 6 rebound player in 36 minutes per night. That's what he's always been.

I just get queasy when people suggest that Green is suddenly going to take the leap to an all-star caliber player.

I see him as a 20/6/6 guy at his best and as good as Carmelo Anthony.. if played right. Which he can't be... unless he's the best SF on the team.

Yeah, there's where you lose me.

The 20 points is high, but whatever. I suppose in some bizarro world, Green could find his aggressive and increase his scoring output by about 25%.

The real objection is to the 6 assists (that will *never* happen), or the Carmelo-like play. I can't see either of these as a projection based in any type of reality.

The 20 points is likely when he's a focal point of the offense... SFs are usually focal points too, so that should work for him. He has the ability.

6 rebounds, he's been getting his whole career.

The 6 assists, I'm saying, is because if he has the ball in his hands, he can get assists. When you guys think he looks lost/unaggressive, I think he's scanning the court for options. He just holds the ball at the high post or to the side and finds the right man, typically. Six is certainly a stretch, maybe four is a better number. But he's certainly not "lost".

As much as I want him to be in that fringe all-star/all-star range, I just don't see it happening. I'll take him all day as a solid starting small forward though.

I think that's what most of us think.

Are you including yourself in that "us"? I was under the impression you saw Green as a 20 ppg all-star.

I've got no objection to people who think Green can be a 15 point, 6 rebound player in 36 minutes per night. That's what he's always been.

I just get queasy when people suggest that Green is suddenly going to take the leap to an all-star caliber player.

I see him as a 20/6/6 guy at his best and as good as Carmelo Anthony.. if played right. Which he can't be... unless he's the best SF on the team.

Yeah, there's where you lose me.

The 20 points is high, but whatever. I suppose in some bizarro world, Green could find his aggressive and increase his scoring output by about 25%.

The real objection is to the 6 assists (that will *never* happen), or the Carmelo-like play. I can't see either of these as a projection based in any type of reality.

The 20 points is likely when he's a focal point of the offense... SFs are usually focal points too, so that should work for him. He has the ability.

6 rebounds, he's been getting his whole career.

The 6 assists, I'm saying, is because if he has the ball in his hands, he can get assists. When you guys think he looks lost/unaggressive, I think he's scanning the court for options. He just holds the ball at the high post or to the side and finds the right man, typically. Six is certainly a stretch, maybe four is a better number. But he's certainly not "lost".

He's got the capability to play up to Carmelo...

How many wins do you think a team can get with the offense running through Green?