The Case Against Trump

AN IMAGINARY DEBATE

Edited and chaired by Lasha Darkmoon

This is a “debate” with a difference. It consists of a compilation of authentic quotations by well-known politicians, celebrities, and internet pundits, all arranged in a dramatic collage by Lasha Darkmoon. If the overall impression is Kafkaesque and surrealistic, that is intended. Every quote can be verified on the internet for its word-for-word accuracy.

Why bother having nuclear weapons
if you are afraid to use them?— Donald Trump

LASHA DARKMOON : Ladies and gentlemen, you are all veteran observers of the political scene in Washington. I’d therefore like to ask you a few questions and get a debate going on Donald Trump. My first question: do you have anything positive to say about Trump?

(Silence)

Rachel Blevins, you are a Texas-based journalist. How about you? Do you have anything nice to say about our President?

RACHEL BLEVINS : Trump has killed more civilians with illegal drone strikes in nine months than Obama did in eight years.

LASHA DARKMOON : Can you expand on that?

RACHEL BLEVINS : The Trump Administration is breaking records by accumulating a horrific number of civilian deaths. President Trump has been in office for just nine months, and he has already surpassed Obama’s murderous record with estimated numbers as high as 4,500 civilian deaths. Trump made headlines in December 2015, when he declared that if elected, he would not only kill members of ISIS—he would also “take out their families.” He is following through on that promise.

LD : Trump is killing women and children in cold blood?

RACHEL BLEVINS : Researchers have documented the rise of “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes” under the Trump Administration. This trend led to “the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria” in May [alone].

LD : Trump claims he wants to destroy ISIS. He would deny any indiscriminate slaughter of civilians by US drones.

RACHEL BLEVINS : Trump promised to “bomb the hell out of ISIS”. [Instead], the alarmingly high civilian death toll has continued to build up over the months. For example, from May 23 to June 23 of this year, at least 472 civilians were killed by US airstrikes. That is significantly more than the 459 civilians who have been killed by terrorist attacks in Europe—in the last 12 years.

While the argument can be made that Trump is doing the same thing Hillary Clinton would have done if she was elected, the question has to be asked as to how anyone can justify killing innocent civilians in the first place.

LD : Trump’s supporters obviously have no moral qualms about the slaughter of 472 Third World civilians in a single month. Either they couldn’t care less, or they are wilfully blind, stupid, and pig-ignorant.

RACHEL BLEVINS : Obama surpassed Bush’s record, and now Trump has surpassed Obama’s record—but the only thing that has actually been “accomplished” is that thousands of innocent civilians have lost their lives, hundreds of thousands of civilians have lost their homes and their communities, and the civilians who do survive will grow up hating America.

DONALD TRUMP : It was a slow and brutal death for so many. Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack.

LD(not noticing the bizarre interruption) : How about you, Robert Parry? Do you have anything nice to say about the President?

ROBERT PARRY: In the final presidential debate of 2016, Hillary Clinton famously called Donald Trump the “puppet” of Russian President Vladimir Putin. But what’s increasingly clear is that Trump has a more typical puppet master for a US politician–Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

LD : Trump is in bed with the Israelis?

ROBERT PARRY : Trump has major pro-Netanyahu donors to his political war chest and his legal defense fund who are strong advocates for war with Iran, including casino tycoon Sheldon Adelson who has plowed $35 million into the pro-Trump Super PAC Future 45 and has publicly called for dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran as a negotiating tactic. So, Netanyahu had a number of potential strings to pull.

LD : Trump is basically a man of peace, one of my friends keeps telling me. He a really nice guy in mortal combat with the Jews. He wants peace and prosperity for all.

ROBERT PARRY (laughs derisively) : On Sept. 19, Trump turned his maiden speech to the U.N. General Assembly into a war-like rant, personally insulting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as “Rocket Man,” threatening to “totally destroy” his nation of 25 million people, and parroting Netanyahu’s calls for another regime change project aimed at Iran.

Most diplomats in the audience sat in stunned silence as Trump threatened aggressive war from the podium of an organization created to prevent the scourge of war. The one notable exception was Netanyahu who enthusiastically applauded his success in jerking Trump into the neocon camp. Trump showed that his obeisance to Netanyahu and the neocons outweighed loyalty to either his Secretary of State or the intermediaries who had ventured into dicey situations on Trump’s behalf.

In Twitter messages, Trump belittled the idea of a dialogue with North Korea, tweeting: “I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man.”

“Save your energy Rex,” Trump added, before slipping in another thinly veiled threat of a military strike: “we’ll do what has to be done!”

FINIAN CUNNINGHAM(interrupting Parry) : Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is said to have scoffed at Trump’s antics and called him a “moron”.

ANDREW ANGLIN(fiercely) : We support Trump because he is the savior of the White race, sent by God to free us from the shackles of the Jew occupation and establish a 1000 Reich!

ROBERT PARRY (unperturbed) : While on the surface, Trump’s repudiation of Tillerson might have been viewed as another “zigzag,” it is now clear that Trump’s “zigzag” explanation was just another lie. Rather than zigzagging, he is instead following a straight line marked out by Netanyahu.

LD : How do you see the situation in Syria?

ROBERT PARRY : In Syria, Netanyahu seems to have won more concessions from Trump. Trump appears to be continuing US military intervention in Syria—just as Netanyahu desires.

LD : So Trump, you are saying, is Netanyahu’s lapdog?

ROBERT PARRY : Trump further showed that he is following Netanyahu’s marching orders with the extremist speech about Iran on Friday, essentially repeating all the Israeli propaganda lines against Iran and burning whatever bridges remained toward a meaningful diplomatic approach.

Trump’s Iran speech was so ludicrous it almost defies serious analysis. It ranks with the reckless rhetoric of President George W. Bush when he pronounced an “axis of evil,” with the incongruous linking of Iraq and Iran (two bitter enemies) and North Korea accompanied by Bush’s bogus claims about Iraq’s WMD and Iraq’s alleged collaboration with Al Qaeda.

As dishonest as Trump’s Iran speech was, the US mainstream media won’t criticize it as harshly as it deserves because virtually all the important journalists and talking heads have swallowed Israel’s anti-Iran propaganda whole.

LD : So it’s helterskelter down the slippery slope to Armageddon, is it?

ROBERT PARRY : Trump is now on the path to wars with both North Korea and Iran, neither of which Russian President Putin favors. Putin, who played a key role in helping President Obama achieve the Iran-nuclear agreement, now sides with the Europeans in opposition to Trump’s decertification [of the peace agreement with Iran].

Putin also favors a prompt end to the Syrian conflict with the defeat of Al Qaeda and its allies, and he wants peaceful negotiations with North Korea over its desire for security against threatened American aggression. Trump is on the opposite side of all these Putin priorities.

LD : If what you say is correct, Putin supporters who also support Trump must be stark raving bonkers. How can anyone support Trump and Putin at the same time if Trump is doing everything in his power to antagonize Putin and threaten Russia?

ROBERT PARRY : Trump is behaving in ways that are directly contrary to Putin’s desires and interests! Trump is moving in opposite directions, lining up with Netanyahu and the neocons, whom some European allies refer to as “America’s Israeli agents.” Although dressing up his capitulation to Netanyahu in tough-guy phrasing, Trump is doing what most US politicians do – they grovel before Bibi Netanyahu.

LD : It therefore follows that Trump’s supporters, without knowing it, are indirectly giving aid to Netanyahu. However well-intentioned these Trump loyalists are, they are making a big mistake. They are acting as Useful Idiots for Israel and the Zionist agenda.

ROBERT PARRY : If you have any doubts, watch how often both Republicans and Democrats jump to their feet when Netanyahu addresses a joint session of Congress. Those moments of American humiliation—as almost all 535 members of Congress act like puppets on invisible strings—represent the actual subservience of the US government to a foreign power. And that power is not Russia. President Trump is just the latest American politician to have his strings yanked by Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.

ERIC MARGOLIS : Trump is surrounded by a coterie of ardently pro-Israel advisors and cronies aligned to that nation’s far right wing. So far to the right, in fact, that their Israeli opponents often call them ‘fascists.’ Trump, with this Mussolini complex, fits right into this mind-set. Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appears to have more influence on Capitol Hill than President Trump.

WHO RULES AMERICA?

“Trump is doing what most US politicians do— they grovel before Bibi Netanyahu.”

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU : I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction.

BILL CLINTON : Who the fuck does he think he is? Who’s the fucking superpower here?

— § —

LD : Paul Craig Roberts, as a highly respected and seasoned insider of Washington and its evil ways, would you like to comment on the present situation?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS: I have warned of the consequences of Washington threatening Russia’s security by breaking agreement after agreement, by placing missile bases on Russia’s borders, by orchestrating anti-Russian coups in former Soviet provinces, and by a continuing volley of false accusations against Russia. There is no act more reckless and irresponsible than to make one nuclear power fear nuclear attack from another.

Last March, General Viktor Poznikhir, the deputy commander of the Russian military’s Operation Command expressed concern that Washington could be preparing a surprise nuclear attack on Russia.

Had any such statement from the Russian high command been issued anytime during the 20th century Cold War era, the President of the United States would have immediately contacted the Soviet leader and given every assurance that no such plan or intentions toward Russia existed. As far as I can tell, the Trump White House let this ominous announcement pass unremarked. If this is the case, it must have provided confirmation to the Russians’ conclusion.

Both the US and its vassal states, continue to ignore very clear Russian warnings. Perhaps the most clear of all was Putin’s public statement that “Russia will never again fight a war on its own territory.” If Washington’s EU vassals did not hear this clear warning that they are courting their nuclear destruction—especially the Poles and Romanians who have mindlessly hosted US missile bases—they are as deaf as they are stupid.

One Russian official told the idiot British government to its face that if the British threat to first use nuclear weapons is directed at Russia, if such an attempt is made, Great Britain will disappear from the face of the earth.

LD : This is where I’m based right now. In England’s green and pleasant land. In perfidious Albion. You think I could be wiped out at any moment?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : There is no doubt that that would be the case… Russia has not even threatened Ukraine, which Russia could wipe out in a couple of minutes.

LD : America is an exceptional nation, I’m told. It’s above international law. It can do whatever it wants, regardless of what other people think of it.

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : America is so exceptional that it can torture people in total violation of both US law and international law. The government in Washington can, on suspicion alone without presentation to a court of evidence and conviction, confine US citizens indefinitely, torturing them the entire time, and can assassinate them at will without due process of law. This is the definition of a total police state tyranny. Yet Washington represents America as a “great democracy,” whose endless wars against humanity are “bringing democracy to the world.”

America is so exceptional that it can bomb other countries indiscriminately without officially being at war with those countries.

Today the military/security complex is much more than a mere threat to American democracy. It has already taken over the US government and the Trump administration, which is run by generals, and it now threatens all life on earth.

The military/security complex has an annual budget of one thousand billion dollars. This sum is larger than the Gross Domestic Products of all but a handful of countries on earth. Such an immense budget conveying such power desperately needs a dangerous enemy for its justification. Russia has been assigned this role.

LD : Robert Parry has just told us that Trump is Netanyahu’s puppet. Do you agree?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : The Israel Lobby is extremely powerful. If the Israel Lobby puts legislation or a resolution before Congress, it usually passes almost unanimously, as anyone who votes against it is likely to be eliminated in the next election.

The Israel Lobby is closely linked to the Neoconservatives, the principal figures of which are Zionist Jews tightly allied with Israel. Some are joint US/Israeli citizens. The Israeli influence in Washington is so strong that the Vice Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Bank is the former chairman of the Israeli Central Bank. Israel is so powerful in Washington that it even runs US economic policy.

LD : And what Israel wants, Israel gets, right? What does Israel want?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : The Zionists in Israel want to expand. Their doctrine is “from the Nile to the Euphrates.” That is the Zionist claim of the land that God gave to the Chosen People.

In pursuit of this goal, Israel twice sent the Israeli Army into southern Lebanon to occupy that part of the country in order to seize the Litani River, water resources that Israel desires.

It is Israel, not the US government per se, that is driving the US to war with Iran. Israel, which almost always gets its way in Washington, is encountering difficulties. Washington’s EU vassals are opposed to renewing conflict with Iran. Europe is overwhelmed with problems, many of which stem from Washington’s wars, and doesn’t need the Iranian one again.

LD : Trump’s bellicose rhetoric, especially about nuclear weapons and why have them unless you can use them, are clearly unhelpful. How have Russia and China responded to these threats?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : Russia and China expect the next war to be nuclear.

LD : Trump could light the match that sets the world on fire?

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS : If the dumbshits in Washington repeat this folly, the lights on Earth will be turned off.

VLADIMIR PUTIN(ominously) : Russia will never fight a war again on its own territory!

— § —

LD : Finian Cunningham, in what other ways is Trump trying to antagonize Russia, apart from veiled threats of a first-strike nuclear attack?

FINIAN CUNNINGHAM : Trump’s latest outburst is not a one-off anomaly. In recent weeks, the US government has moved to severely restrict the freedom of Russia-based news media operating in the country. The crimping of Russian news media is part of a wider campaign to suppress all alternative media outlets, including US-based websites, which are being labelled as agents of “foreign interests” because of merely posting articles sourced from RT and Sputnik.

FINIAN CUNNINGHAM : There is absolutely no credible evidence that Russian news media or alternative US-based sites are systematically engaged in an “influence campaign” to destabilize American democracy. Just because the US government does not like this kind of unflattering coverage does not legitimize its opprobrium of “fake news”. The latter charge is brazenly being used as a pretext to censor discomfiting information.

There is simply no evidence that Russian news media were or are engaged in anything nefarious to destabilize US democracy. Russian media have and do give critical news coverage. If that “destabilizes” Washington’s illicit activities in overseas’ wars then that’s what responsible journalism should be doing. To curb this journalism because it offends geopolitical interests is, frankly, censorship and the actions of a tyrant.

Much of this hostility towards alternative media is motivated by the fact that these alternative media have admirably exposed the hypocrisy and criminality of US authorities. American democratic rights are indeed on thin ice. But that was the case long before the elephantine Trump arrived on the scene. His clumsy lurching is merely serving to illustrate how treacherously thin the ice has become upon which US democracy now stands.

DONALD TRUMP(advising Obama) : What I am saying is, stay out of Syria! Do not attack Syria! There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your “powder” for another day!

JEB BUSH : Whatever his views are this morning, they might change this afternoon! All the things that Donald Trump railed against, he seems to be morphing into—it’s kind of disturbing. He doesn’t believe in things, this is all a game.

TIM O’BRIEN(Trump’s biographer, in ‘Vanity Fair’) : He believes his own lies in a way that lasts for decades. He’ll tell the same stories time and time again, regardless or not of the facts right in front of his face.

EDWARD SNOWDEN : It’s very difficult to respond in a serious way to any statement that’s made by Donald Trump.

ERIC MARGOLIS : Trump evaded the draft during the Vietnam War due to a trivial foot problem!

BILL CLINTON (putting in a good word for Trump) : Donald Trump has been uncommonly nice to Hillary and me. I love playing golf with him!

— § —

DONALD TRUMP(to a dead American soldier’s 25-year-old widow, offering his condolences) : He knew what he signed up for.

(The widow breaks down, sobbing.)

DEMOCRAT CONGRESSWOMAN FREDERICA WILSON(who overheard the callous comment) : He should not have said that! It was almost like saying, “You signed up to do this. If you didn’t want to die, you shouldn’t have signed up.”

DONALD TRUMP : Democrat congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!

Dr Lasha Darkmoon (b.1978) is an Anglo-American ex-academic with higher degrees in Classics whose political articles and poems have been translated into several languages. Most of her political essays can be found at The Occidental Observer and The TruthSeeker. Her own website, Darkmoon.me, is now within the top 1 percent of websites in the world according to the Alexa ranking system.

195 thoughts on “The Case Against Trump”

America has now been turned into a carbon-clone of Israel. We fear and hate all our neighbors, and insist on their slavish obedience to our Imperial aims, or else.
We wage endless wars on three continents, mostly against nations Israel wants destroyed or Wall Street wants to loot.
We attack those who dare breathe free air, while the (((MSM))) slams them endlessly as some kind of jihadi fanatics who are too dangerous to live.

Trump was and is still a con man, so good that people still buy his BS. They claim he’s playing some kind of 4 dimensional chess as he breaks one campaign promise after another. Another year of his maniacal ways and he should go down as the most treacherous, murderous president in history.
Just like Israeli PM Nuttyahoo.

I hope this article doesn’t cause too much offense to the Trump admirers. As I indicated yesterday in an email to one of these Trumpophiles, a regular commenter on our website:

Trump is on probation. Most people would accept that.

I respect your right to think highly of Trump. You could well be right about Trump and only time will tell. I sincerely hope, for all our sakes, that I’m totally wrong on this score and that you are right.

However, if the any or all of the following FIVE things happen, I will have to conclude that Trump is a traitor and a Zionist tool:

(1) Iran is attacked, along with Hezbollah and Lebanon.

(2) Syria is divided and Assad is doomed, leading to regime change in Syria much to Israel’s delight.

(3) North Korea is attacked.

(4) WW III breaks out, drawing in Russia and China.

(5) The Palestinians get pulverized by Israel, with more illegal settlements being built, and Trump gives his full support to Israel.

If none of these five things happen under Trump, that will be a VERY GOOD SIGN.

In short, Trump is on probation. He will be judged by his deeds, not his words. Time will tell if his admirers or detractors are right.

But your point is well taken: If Anglin is really a Jew shill, the filthy rats wouldn’t have made life so difficult for him and his site. He does consistently name and blame the Jews and I can’t find fault with that.

PS

I used to go to his site regularly but had stopped 3 or 4 months ago, until I heard news recently that it had been banned from the internet. The lesson for Jews is never ban something you don’t like, cause that will only make people more interested and curious.

You all want your cake, and to eat it, too! What the hell should he do to eliminate ISIS??? Offer a day-care center for their families and friends?? Get real, fools! War and aggression are never pretty. It should be so distasteful that potential enemies refrain from its pursuit.

You all want your cake, and to eat it, too! What the hell should he do to eliminate ISIS??? Offer a day-care center for their families and friends??

Sigh. You appear to be totally unaware that ISIS (like Al Qaeda) is a creation of the US government and Israel. Why should the US want to “eliminate” a terrorist organization it created and covertly arms and finances?

Don’t you know that the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative? Both his parents are Jewish. According to Edward Snowden, this nice Israeli American Jew was trained by the CIA.

It is to the author’s discredit that she’d give that disgrace of a Congress critter (Frederica Wilson) any recognition, at all. Disgraceful. All of America suffers for the likes of these “lefties” – and it only adds fuel to their fire to give them any recognition. To bother quoting them in company with Paul Craig Roberts makes the article seem hysterical in its condemnation of Mr. Trump.

Trump is being PLAYED. When he rails against the “deep state” he is in the dark about the DEEPER state CIA that is behind ISIS and has been the “steerer” of events since it’s former incarnation as the OSS effectively ended in 1945.

THIS is what is really at issue here! Cutting off the head of the snake and stopping the treating of the symptoms of it’s disease!

@Gilbert,
I too found the inclusion of Congresswoman Wilson’s comments quite surprising. I thought that General Kelly did an excellent job of refuting them. Printing them at the end, like they meant something, was disappointing, and, IMO, didn’t belong in such an otherwise excellent article.

BTW, those few dead American troops did know, or should have known, what they signed up for. I can’t get too upset over a few dead American invaders when the USG is slaughtering thousands.

I too found the inclusion of Congresswoman Wilson’s comments quite surprising. I thought that General Kelly did an excellent job of refuting them. Printing them at the end, like they meant something, was disappointing, and, IMO, didn’t belong in such an otherwise excellent article.

Good point, Folly. Those quotes at the end were added as an afterthought on someone else’s advice. I think LD would agree with you that leaving out those quotes might have been better. But it’s too late now, as the article has already appeared on other sites, including Truthseeker.

Speaking of the negress congress critter Frederica Wilson, what the hell are US troops doing in Niger? Does it have nukes and weapons of mass deception, I wonder?

How ironic is it that an African-American soldier died in the land of his ancestors fighting and killing his cousins for a country ruled by the descendants of Jews who ran the slave trade that made his very existence in America possible in the first place?

Imagine if all the negroes serving in the US Armed Forces took a knee in protest like their millionaire brothers playing football in the NFL aka Negro Felon League and simply stopped killing and maiming for their ((Racist White Masters))… O Lord, what a wonderful world this would be!

As they used to say in the 1970’s, the mind of a negro is a terrible thing to waste. If only the negro had a brain it would be true and terrible, indeed, and how racist of me to suggest otherwise.

But then again, how insensitive and misogynist that they didn’t include, if only momentarily, the negress and her all-important part in playing the nattering nabob of negativism and racism in this Jewish tragicomedy we call reality.

This is certainly one of the most original articles on Donald Trump I’ve ever read. Kafkaesque isn’t the word! Kudos to Lady Darkmoon for pulling off such a clever feat. Working all those quotes into a complex and coherent tapestry requires extraordinary literary talent.

Until now Trump has not (yet) undertaken military action against North Korea, Iran or Russia, though his words are irresponsibly threatening. That he is capable of inhumane behavior is proved by his drone strikes that have killed a high number of innocent civilians, which was entirely unnecessary and could easily have been avoided. His callous remarks to the widow of a fallen soldier complete the picture of a ruthless psychopath, capable of anything. Our only concern now should be how to remove this dangerous psychopath from the White House pronto.

If mushroom clouds will appear all over the world, will our friend Lobro still maintain that we have to do here with some mysterious “4D Chess” that only geniuses like Lobro himself can understand ?

Until now Trump has not (yet) undertaken military action against North Korea, Iran or Russia, though his words are irresponsibly threatening. That he is capable of inhumane behavior is proved by his drone strikes that have killed a high number of innocent civilians, which was entirely unnecessary and could easily have been avoided.

LD’s response to this is spot-on and needs to be quoted: “Trump’s supporters obviously have no moral qualms about the slaughter of 472 Third World civilians in a single month. Either they couldn’t care less, or they are wilfully blind, stupid, and pig-ignorant.”

I believe the Trump supporters simply refuse to face the facts: that their hero has no regard for human life. They will question the figures rather than admit that Trump has killed more civilians in 9 months than Obama and Bush ever killed in all their years of office.

His [Trump’s] callous remarks to the widow of a fallen soldier complete the picture of a ruthless psychopath, capable of anything. Our only concern now should be how to remove this dangerous psychopath from the White House pronto.

Easier said than done. Trump won’t be removed if he is “Netanyahu’s puppet”. If he is doing the work of the Jews, as several commentators in the article state, he will be given every opportunity to further Israel’s interests.

Trump’s main Jewish backer is casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. Adelson wants war with Iran. Why is Trump taking Adelson’s money unless he means to do something for Adelson in return? Why else do you think Trump is ranting and raving against Iran? He is doing Adelson’s bidding. And more to the point, he is doing exactly what Netanyahu wants him to do.

What we have here in Donald Trump is a man who is not only ADELSON’S PUPPET but NETANYAHU’S PUPPET.

If mushroom clouds will appear all over the world, will our friend Lobro still maintain that we have to do here with some mysterious “4D Chess” that only geniuses like Lobro himself can understand ?

There is no evidence that Trump is a grand chessmaster. His own Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has called him a “moron”.

There is no evidence that Trump is a grand chessmaster. His own Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has called him a “moron”.
Since when do morons play “4D Chess”?

Trump may not be a grand chessmaster all right. But he doesn’t have to be. Let us take a look at some undeniable facts and do some plausible reasoning.

(1) No one gets to run for office in America and wins the office without the support and approval of some powerful forces. Trump did run and win the office. In the case of Trump, I am not sure what those forces are, but I find it unreasonable to doubt the existence of those forces. So Trump doesn’t have to be a grand chessmaster himself – all (or almost all) he gets to do is simply moving the figures on the chessboard while what the moves should be is determined, at least strategically, by those powerful forces, and not by Trump.

(2) It’s been nine months since Trump’s inaugural speech, but the battle over the results of the presidential election is still raging unabated. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is unprecedented in the history of the US presidential elections. What does this imply? This implies that there are other forces in America which are as powerful as the forces behind Trump. Who are these forces? I do not pretend to know, but I find it unreasonable to deny their existence. It seems to me that the mere longevity of this standoff (nine months!) implies that the confrontation is real, and not just a “good policeman – bad policeman” ploy to fool the Russians, as has been suggested by some in Russia, in particular, by E. A. Federov.

Now, what is this “4D Chess” everyone is talking about? Forgive my ignorance, but I do not know what “4D Chess” is … unless it is an allegory that is.

But I do know what symmetrical chess with fractional move is for I have invented it:

Trump may not be a grand chessmaster all right. But he doesn’t have to be. Let us take a look at some undeniable facts and do some plausible reasoning.

Your reasoning is fine as far as I’m concerned. It is logical and consistent and I’m not going to disagree with it just because you have a lot of enemies here. It’s true that if Trump is a “moronic” puppet, it doesn’t follow that every “chess move” he makes has to be moronic. This is because, as you point out correctly, every chess move he makes is at the behest of his far more intelligent puppet masters. He moves his pieces over the board, but “Others” are whispering in his ear: “Do this! Do that!” And being a marionette, a puppet on a string, he moves his pieces over the board according to their instructions.

As everyone knows, a president cannot possibly read a hundred thousand documents or know what is going on in every nook and corner of the world. He is heavily dependent on his circle of advisors who feed him selected documents and news reports to read. Even these he can only skim. Ultimately, the Hidden Advisors have all the power. And all of Trump’s advisors, we happen to know, are either Jews or dual citizens. There is not an anti-Zionist among them. Even his closest family members are in the Jewish camp. We can therefore reasonably conclude that this president is far more likely to be a Zionist puppet than a secret hater of the Jews intent on smashing Jewish power. To me, such a hypothesis borders on the surrealistic and the absurd. However, I am not here to make enemies. I don’t feel any animosity toward these wild-eyed conspiracy theorists who need to find heroes in the most unlikely places! 🙂

Now, what is this “4D Chess” everyone is talking about? Forgive my ignorance, but I do not know what “4D Chess” is … unless it is an allegory that is.

Well said! I don’t know what “4D Chess” is either. It could well be an allegory. On the other hand, it could just be a fine phrase, pretentious jargon for explaining the complex situation outlined above: that what we have here is a pretty clueless president who does exactly what his advisors tell him to do.

Putin thinks for himself. I don’t think Trump does. There’s every indication that Trump is doing what he is told by his Jewish advisors — including his Jewish paymaster Sheldon Adelson.

American Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson gave Donald Trump a campaign donation of over $100 million, making it the largest contribution the casino magnate given to a GOP candidate.

In 2012, Adelson gave some $98 million to Republican efforts to win the presidency, with the funds going to some 34 different campaigns and groups.

Adelson’s financial backing kept his friend Newt Gingrich in the race, forcing Mitt Romney, the then front-runner, to spend a lot of money early in the primary season. Adelson and his wife Miriam spent at least $20 million on political action committees backing Gingrich. Romney campaign veterans now say that expenditure was crippling when the former Massachusetts governor faced then-Sen. Barack Obama in the general election, although the Adelsons backed Romney when he secured the nomination.

Again, I’d like to say this is a stunningly intelligent and entertaining article, regardless of whether the writer of the article is right or wrong about Donald Trump. The author shows signs of being a trained dramatist. Is she?

As everyone knows, a president cannot possibly read a hundred thousand documents or know what is going on in every nook and corner of the world. He is heavily dependent on his circle of advisors who feed him selected documents and news reports to read. Even these he can only skim. Ultimately, the Hidden Advisors have all the power. And all of Trump’s advisors, we happen to know, are either Jews or dual citizens. There is not an anti-Zionist among them. Even his closest family members are in the Jewish camp. We can therefore reasonably conclude that this president is far more likely to be a Zionist puppet than a secret hater of the Jews intent on smashing Jewish power. To me, such a hypothesis borders on the surrealistic and the absurd. However, I am not here to make enemies. I don’t feel any animosity toward these wild-eyed conspiracy theorists who need to find heroes in the most unlikely places!

Well-reasoned argument, Jon. I find your cautious conclusion just as reasonable. The only thing I would like to add here is to suggest that “the Hidden Advisors” that “have all the power” are not necessarily the same thing as “all of Trump’s advisors, we happen to know”.

You may call it a conspiracy theory, but I find it highly unlikely that “all of Trump’s advisors, we happen to know” are the ultimate generators of strategic policies to be implemented by president Trump. If you happened to read fat books by Carrol Quigley “Tragedy and Hope” and “The Anglo-American Establishment” you might agree with me that “the Hidden Advisors” are not public at all and we may never know them by names, while the president’s “advisors, we happen to know” are nothing but drive belts.

For the argument’s sake, let us assume that you are correct in asserting that the Jews are the real power behind Trump’s presidency. Now, what about the point (2) I have made in my previous comment? Don’t you agree that there is another power at play here, opposing Trump’s presidency for the nine months passed since his inauguration? What is this power and who does personify it? Is it also Jewish power?

I can understand the sly Jew financing both parties, Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump. But the Jew, fighting itself ferociously for nine long months after the election is over, does not make sense to me.

As long as we are unable, or unwilling, to reevaluate the “ironclad” postulate that the Jews are the only real force in the entire political universe, there will be no end to logical contradictions we’ll be constantly running into.

I can understand the sly Jew financing both parties, Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump. But the Jew, fighting itself ferociously for nine long months after the election is over, does not make sense to me.

You have hit the nail on the head here. This makes no sense to me either. We are “seeing through a glass darkly”, i.e. stumbling in the dark as we try to figure out what is going on. What we need to do in order to arrive at the truth is to begin, first and foremost, to rule out out all rubbishy and “red herring” conspiracy theories that are built on pure conjecture and wishful thinking.

Just because a theory has a ONE percent chance of being true, we don’t have to let this theory confuse us into giving it a respectful hearing. Do we need to give a respectful hearing to the conspiracy theory that Mother Teresa MAY have been guilty of strangling babies to death, given that there is no proof of her absolute innocence?

I don’t think so!

I think the conspiracy theory that Trump MAY be secretly intent on smashing the Jews, and destroying Jewish power and influence in the world forever, as is being touted on this site by one individual, is almost as ridiculous as conjecturing that Mother Teresa MAY have been a clandestine baby strangler. 🙂

It is only by rejecting patently false theories, designed to muddle the mind and mislead us, that we are going to make any headway.

I think you will agree that a power struggle is going on. Someone is pulling and someone is pushing. If you wish to see this struggle as an elaborate chess game, that’s what is going on: a struggle for survival and dominance.

I have arrived at three conclusions I consider axiomatic:

(1) The Jews are heavily involved in this power struggle.

(2) The power struggle is on the surface a geopolitical one, with the US and its lackey states in Nato engaged in full-spectrum domination against Russia, China, Iran and their allies. Hence the ring of US bases all around Russia.

(3) International Jewry has taken over America, and through America which it has thoroughly “vanquished”, it hopes to achieve world domination.

These are old ideas, not my own. They were first articulated on this site a few years ago by Lasha Darkmoon in a ground-breaking article called “America Vanquished” which I remember reading for the first time on rense.com.

Lasha Darkmoon in “America Vanquished” on October 31, 2011, exactly six years ago:

In short, the Jews took over America and turned it into a Jewish colony. As simple as that. Their American hosts were hoist with their own petard.

But why worry? American Jews are Americans, are they not? If they’re smart enough to take over America, as they have demonstrably done, why shouldn’t they proceed to the next logical step and take over the world—yes, dominate the world through America? No one denies this is America’s aim: full spectrum dominance. So if the Jews control America, and if America controls the world, doesn’t it follow logically that the Jews control the world? The logic is irrefutable.

Jewish world domination takes on a different perspective when viewed through this historical prism. No “conspiracy theories” here. No hook-nosed Jews grasping the globe in their cruel talons. No Illuminati trying to sodomize your children and drink their blood. Just logic. Just history. Just America striving for full-spectrum dominance with Jews leading the pack.

You could say the wild-eyed dreams of the Protocols have at last been realized, but not in the way their original masterminds intended.

“As long as we are unable, or unwilling, to reevaluate the “ironclad” postulate that the Jews are the only real force in the entire political universe, there will be no end to logical contradictions we’ll be constantly running into.”

Very well said. To support your comment, if the jews were the only political force on the planet, the struggles and conflicts would not exist. (((They))) would have already declared themselves masters of the universe. We are programed to overlook the obvious.

LD: Trump is basically a man of peace, one of my friends keeps telling me. He a really nice guy in mortal combat with the Jews. He wants peace and prosperity for all.

LD: Trump’s supporters obviously have no moral qualms about the slaughter of 472 Third World civilians in a single month. Either they couldn’t care less, or they are willfully blind, stupid, and pig-ignorant.

Let anyone correct me, if I am wrong, but one cannot have a friend in good faith and call him “willfully blind, stupid, and pig-ignorant” in the same breath. This “friend” may think or say anything he wants to of Hitler or Trump, and no one could care less, but saying anything good about Joseph Stalin is, obviously, no go for any “friend” in the disgusting Anglo-American world of money, deceit and perversion.

My guess is that this “friend” and all other “friends” will eat the shit thrown at them – that’s the English way. That’s why the world dominated by Anglo-Americans is irredeemably fucked up.

Let me say it again: Russia, with her spirit of justice and dignity, is the last and only hope left for the humankind.

The reason why the Russians admire mega-butcher Stalin so much is probably a combination of ignorance, misplaced patriotism and yes… also stupidity. You have no excuse to be counted among them. I never understood people who admire monsters.

Franklin, let me help you old man. Your stupidity is not in the fact that you “never understood people who admire monsters”. Your phenomenal stupidity is in the fact that you are unable to tell the reality from the fairy tales and propaganda … even with the help of 100 million people who live in the country you are so ignorant about.

The thing is that people want to have a positive image about themselves and their history. For modern Russians the myth of their “Great Patriotic War” against the evil invading Nazis is the major source of their self-worth. This is also actively promoted by Putin with elaborate commemorations. The idea that their “Great Leader”, who had modernized their nation and who led it to victory in the war, was in fact a cruel psychopathic monster is as much unacceptable to Russians as is the idea that the founder of their religion was a criminal war-lord is unacceptable to Muslims. That is how the psychology of primitive masses work. Everything is about “good guys” vs. “bad guys”. “We” are of course the “good guys”, and “they” are the “bad guys”. Therefore “our” leader could not have been bad. For Russians that is “father” Stalin, for Muslims that is “prophet” Muhammad. You suffer from the same illusion. And don’t try to convince me with the argument that “100 million Russians cannot be wrong”. That fallacy is called argumentum ad populum. Look that up.

I’m surprised that Admin is allowing you to stir the s**t here. You are up to your old tricks! Yet Admin is probably aware of your intelligence and recognizes that much of what you say has validity. I happen to know that LD has at least three friends (maybe more) who are ardent Trump supporters, so her comments here could apply to ANY of these friends and do not necessarily apply to any Trump supporters posting on this forum.

I think everything LD has said about Trump in this article is justified, especially as it is backed up by a vast array of supportive quotes and meticulous logic. She must not be bullied and intimidated into silence by the pro-Trump fanatics.

“…Russia, with her spirit of justice and dignity, is the last and only hope left for humankind”

I concur. But the greatest question remaining asks, “HOW would this be effected?”

The mistake people make is thinking in terms of the “East vs. West” paradigm, of which is reflected what are essentially ancillary goings-on in the nine months since the Trump inauguration. Being preoccupied with the content within the workings of this deceptive paradigm is EXACTLY what plays into the hands of the “great Oz”, or “hidden advisers” pulling the levers from behind the obfuscating curtain.

I will add that those who think that the Russian “East” will militarily defeat the U.S.-led “West” and emerge victorious IN THAT MANNER prove themselves to be dancing on the Ozian strings steering their thoughts in that direction.

I expect the nature of Russia’s prevailing to FIRST result with their emergence as the overseer of their designated “sector” of the U.N.-sponsored “World Economic Authority”, euphemism for Agenda-21 (“Babylon”).

But herein lies the rub as I see it

This agenda that disguises itself under a false banner of “sustainability” is wholly dependent on the maintainence of it’s computer-generated financial mechanisms – all those digits dancin and gyratin all around the globe reflecting a web of interconnectivity of total vulnerability which will be it’s eventual downfall

Vulnerable to WHAT you may ask, to which I will respond in a way that appeals to your sensibilities as a physicist – vulnerable to the electromagnetic field of the planet going haywire through a cosmological “shift” that OBLITERATES the functionality of all those numbers on all those screens.

Only then, in the aftermath of the chaos sure to follow will the SECOND aspect of Russia’s prevailing emerge in the form of a SPIRITUAL leadership to rise from the ashes like a phoenix.

I loved the composite article. I can always hope that, behind closed doors, the Joint Chiefs are telling our exceedingly reckless power mad Commander-in-Chief that they will not attack DPRK, Iran, or Russia based on his order. I continue to hope that at least some of them take their oath to the Constitution seriously rather than being a Pretorian Guard servile to a Jewish controlled oligarch who has gone insane, and violated every campaign promise regarding US war policy. Patriotism, I hope, remains high in the military, and it may be the one huge organization in this sick country not totally under AIPAC’s thumb. I’ll admit it may be a slender thread to place one’s hopes on, but I don’t see another alternative. Sadly, if Trump is deposed, will Christian Zionist Pence be any better? His plus is that he knows diplomacy and has better manners, but that doesn’t mean he’ll be any less dangerous than Trump

An inquiry into the background of flamboyant American entrepreneur Donald J. Trump provides some surprising insights into Trump’s path to power and influence, for the fact is that Trump’s rise to stardom came as a direct consequence of his having functioned as hardly more than a colorful front man for some very wealthy behind-the-scenes sponsors.

Everyone knows, of course, about Trump’s gambling operations and of the wide-ranging links of the gambling industry to organized crime. But the story is much bigger than that. In his own memoir, The Art of the Deal, Trump proudly described how in 1987 he bought his first casino interests when he purchased 93% of the voting stock in the Resorts International gambling concern.

What Trump doesn’t tell his readers is what the late Andrew St. George reported in The Spotlight on October 30, 1978 (and in the previous September 25, 1978, issue): Resorts International was established and controlled by front men for the Rockefeller and Rothschild families and their “enforcers” in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and its allied intelligence agency, Israel’s Mossad.

This is decreed at the moment of conception, so one does well to keep in mind the fact that death is always close by. This brings to mind a favorite Sufi story,

Appointment at Samarra

A Baghdad merchant sent his servant to the marketplace for provisions. Soon after, the servant returned white and trembling, telling the merchant that while in the marketplace, he was jostled by an old woman, whom he recognized as Death after she made a threatening gesture.

Terrified, the servant borrows a horse from the merchant and flees at great speed to far away Samarra, where he thinks Death cannot not find him. Soon after the merchant goes to the marketplace where he encounters Death browsing among the goods. The merchant asks Death the reason for the threatening gesture, to which Death replies, “That was not a threatening gesture, I was merely startled to see your servant here in Baghdad for I have an appointment with him tonight in Samarra”.

interesting. The first thing I thought of was something I’ve remembered for at least the last 30 years. It was the mid-1980’s I recall, when I met a Buddhist man in Boston who told me of a mantra that he said when repeated would give the speaker a certain sense of serenity. He was right, and I’ll occasionally speak it when meditating

The way I’ll relate it here is, and maybe you or Felix can correct how you would spell it :

Na-mioho-renge-kio

when uttering the syllables, “oho”, and “io”, this could emulate the men in the cartoon and the Shigur idol

HP, you said, ‘in the cartoon it appears they’re chanting OM ‘. Have you heard of chanting ‘omg’ in the tone of the note ‘so(l)’ which is the tone the earth produces? Monkeys and infants are very sensitive to that sound, and calm down when they hear it in the midst of irritation.

The post I sent in this morning about Trump and Hollywood and Weinstein and if Hillary had won Weinstein would not have been dethroned is “not acceptable” because? [ this is going to be, lol, interesting, the explanation, the “justification” as why the post is being CENSORED ] I’m ALL EARS, 🙂 .

We have no problem “censoring” garbage. Short garbage posts are OK now and then as comic relief, but tedious, repetitious, longwinded garbage posts are generally deleted. Hope you understand and approve our policy.

The US has been in a state of continued National Emergency since 1933 for sure… BUT possibly, even earlier.

It was CONTINUED by Trump this past May:

Notice Regarding the – CONTINUATION – of the National Emergency with Respect to the Stabilization of Iraq
NOTICE

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CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO THE STABILIZATION OF IRAQ

On May 22, 2003, by Executive Order 13303, the President declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701-1706) to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by obstacles to the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq.

The obstacles to the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. For this reason, the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303, as modified in scope and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004, Executive Order 13438 of July 17, 2007, and Executive Order 13668 of May 27, 2014, must continue in effect beyond May 22, 2017. Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency with respect to the stabilization of Iraq declared in Executive Order 13303.

This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

Energy beam weapons were the cause of the California Fires. See Jim Stone for what is coming if you don’t cut your censorship. Kaminski is now being blocked by search and spam filters. Time is running out. Yet you continue to censor.

ADMIN: If “censorship” means deleting defamatory comments and pornographic links, then yes, we are guilty of censorship. We censor no one with a valid viewpoint who knows how to speak politely and avoids scatological language.

“The only good news is that once the Neocons fail, there will be political hell to pay for them. Oh sure, their plan is not even to win. What they want is inflict as much damage as possible on Iran (like they did in Lebanon and Gaza), kill as many Iranians as possible, destroy as much of the Iranian infrastructure as they can, before dumping Trump and blaming it all on him. Their hope is that the US Ziomedia will then lynch Trump for starting an unwinnable war against Iran while they, the Neocons, quietly slip away and let Trump face the music. Trump will be impeached, possibly jailed, while Bibi Netanyahu will either get reelected personally, or appoint the next guy in charge. Let the goyim kill each other while we reap the benefits from it all.”

I was so inspired by that article my next essay is entitled “Trump is Israeli’s Bitch”, lol.

Urban Dictionary Shabbos goy: “Originally, a non-Jew who does work on Sabbath that a Jew cannot do. In modern times, it is a non-Jew who toadies to the every wish and whim of the Jews, especially in politics, or a non-Jew who is heavily supportive of Israel.”

A brilliant article! Easy to see why it took a little longer than expected. The opening Trump quotation “Why bother having nuclear weapons if you are afraid to use them?” is reminiscent of Madeleine Albright’s question to Colin Powell: “What’s the point of having this superb military you’re always talking about if we can’t use it?” As I recall, soon after that the USG was using that “superb military” to pound the crap out of the folks in the Balkans.

The Trump quote that “He knew what he signed up for” is taken out of context according to some reports. What he (may) have said was: “He knew what he signed up for, but when it happens, it hurts anyway.” It’s true enough that all who serve in the US military swear an oath that includes the words “…to defend the nation against enemies foreign and domestic.” Implicit in taking that oath is the possibility that one will be willing to forfeit one’s life to do so. It’s not the Boy Scouts or Girl Guides, after all. Just how it is. According to some reports, the 25 year old widow, and the soldier’s mother, did not take offense at whatever was actually said. Other than that, I’d say LD has done a remarkably fine job of accurately reflecting both the words and context of the quotations used for this article. Kudos and Brava!

I am definitely a Trump supporter, deplorable, and irredeemable. I am also anti-war. I hope all those statistics aren’t correct. it’s a hypothetical conversation with no citations so I am just trusting that your sources are accurate. I really don’t know who to trust. I guess I trust Paul Craig Roberts and if he says so, it’s probably so. Where is all this killing taking place–in Syria, in Yemen, not sure where else… I couldn’t say. My whole life my government has been carrying on secretive wars that only later come to light–like the wars in South and Central America.

I am not surprised that the secretive killings are happening in the Israeli sphere of influence. Trump may have collusion going on with the Israelis but I suspect the Israelis are also behind the campaign to take him out. You see when Obama was president wars were better hidden and that is the way they like it. Trump is naive about the Israelis.

I suppose I don’t care if the criticism of Trump is directed against the military industrial complex and all going about their ordinary business… business as usual. Trump should pay more attention. Apparently the Secretary of State is against pulling out of the Iran deal, and two thirds of the American people agree with him. That might stop Trump from doing Israel’s dirty work.

As I see it, the jews have the same problem now, with their pathetic Orange Clown puppet in the White House, that they did before, when presidential poseur Obama held the office: All the low-hanging fruit has already been picked from the tree…and any attempt to pick the fruit above comes with great risk.

They trashed Libya, and for an encore they thought they would destroy Syria, of course followed by Iran, but a resurgent Russia stepped in and messed up all their plans.

So where do the would-be world conquerors go from here? Apparently they’re in a “poke and hope” mode, doing everything they can to insult, infuriate and economically damage North Korea and Iran, thereby hoping to get the “enemy” to make the first overt act.

This would explain Orange Clown’s provocations in Syria, his over-the-top-outrageous speech at the UN, and his ever-more-unreasonable anti-Iran machinations.

I believe that Orange Clown is a “sleeper agent” whose “presidency” reflects jewish desperation. and I believe that he is the jews’ last chance to accomplish their goal of world domination and control. In light of this, I believe that there is presently a great risk of a false-flag attack being used to start another war.

The Jews have ALREADY accomplished “…their goal of world domination and control”. You brave souls who constantly condemn Trump should show the rest of us how brave and righteous you are by trying to live WITHOUT Mr. Jew’s currencies. We need examples! (Trump is no more “controlled” by Mr. Jew than the rest of us.)

“The Jews have ALREADY accomplished ‘…their goal of world domination and control’.”

Nonsense. If that were the case they wouldn’t be surrounding Russia and China with military bases and hostile puppet governments, would they? Do the jews control North Korea, Syria, Iran, Cuba and Venezuela? Of course they don’t. So why do you claim otherwise?

“You brave souls who constantly condemn Trump should show the rest of us how brave and righteous you are by trying to live WITHOUT Mr. Jew’s currencies.”

Orange Clown lied to me to get my vote. He reneged and/or reversed on every issue important to many millions of people who voted for him, including me. Since assuming his office, he’s brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. But I’m some kind of an ass for pointing it out and criticizing the subhuman filth for selling us all out?

If Orange Clown was working for “America” he would actually try to cooperate with Russia and improve diplomatic relations, rather than try to make them think he’s going to launch a nuclear first strike.

The fact that Orange Clown refuses to improve relations with Russia – in and of itself – proves beyond a doubt that he’s taking orders from jews. No “president” who gave a damn about America would senselessly antagonize Russia the way he is.

Orange Clown is risking my life and most likely the life of everyone reading this by failing to improve ties with Russia while at the same time refusing to remove the Aegis Ashore missile launchers in Europe, while at the same time refusing to negotiate anything in good faith with anyone, etc.

If mushroom clouds will appear all over the world, will our friend Lobro still maintain that we have to do here with some mysterious “4D Chess” that only geniuses like Lobro himself can understand?

i will borrow Sparta’s immortal answer to some invading general that threatened them with annihilation if he wins:IF

Lasha was fair enough to have enumerated 5 catastrophic events that Trump could engender and if not, that he deserves an honest review.
However, i also note that among the rabid Trump haters, intellectual honesty is not exactly a surplus commodity, so that anything Trump SAYS (note: I said SAYS, not DOES) is instantly taken by this handicapped tribe as a proof of crime already committed, in fact, a mere possibility of Trump doing something wrong is to them ironclad proof of a crime already committed, whereas,
anything he does right is equally shrilly claimed to be a mere propagandist ploy and to be excluded from the scales of justice, i.e., does not count as plus.

So, i read recently in this forum how Trump is absolutely, hands down the worst US president in history, no one comes close.
Why?
Well, here it gets kind of vague … because American military is wantonly killing people, civilians, anything that breathes as per the oft-quoted Deuteronomy article.
Because American military has up until Trump presidency been the exemplar of decency, warrior honor, never, ever murdered a civilian, except in honest mistake, be it Spanish war, Civil war, WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam, you name it … the first time they killed randomly and caused massive mayhem was as soon as Trump assumed office.
So, “Trump killed 467 people in one month”.
Trump, not the American gentle, decent, Christian-minded military, they tried to stop Trump from killing all these people but they couldn’t, he was a raging bull bent on slaughter of the innocents.
Ask GW Bush, that beacon of mercy and conscience, so much better president than Trump can ever hope to be – right, Trump-assassins?
What’s 911, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, maybe less than 2.5 million dead, peanuts compared to Trump’s 434 in ONE month, oh, the smelling salts!
And not to mention wasting 59 precious tomahawks on an empty, disused airstrip in Syria, the greatest warcrime of all times!

(2) Syria is divided and Assad is doomed, leading to regime change in Syria much to Israel’s delight.

(3) North Korea is attacked.

(4) WW III breaks out, drawing in Russia and China.

(5) The Palestinians get pulverized by Israel, with more illegal settlements being built, and Trump gives his full support to Israel.

If none of these five things happen under Trump, that will be a VERY GOOD SIGN.

Forget it Lasha, it may be good enough sign for you but not for those accustommed to chraging at JEW’s enemies, as soon as JEW points the finger, off they march, red-eyed with hate.
Because i can assure you here and now, that even if none of these dire events happen on Trump watch, it won’t matter a whit, he will still be the WORST EVER, incomparably worse than Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Truman, LBJ, 2 Bushes, Clinton and Obama put together, worse than Hillary who even without being a president yet managed to destroy the finest nation Africa ever produced and start arson elsewhere in ME.
Because she would have been so much better than Trump, can there be any doubt …

the saying that i heard so often as a kid went like this:Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear
and i tend to go by this sage advice but in JEW matrix, it has been twisted intoBelieve all that you hear and none of what you see.

sorry for logic overload, i can only imagine how it offends the refined sensibilities … right Kapoore? 😉 (fellow offender)

You make some excellent points, Lobro. I’ve also noted the extraordinary deference that is now given to every previous warmongering, womanizing, lying, cheating, and killing US president while Trump is held to account not only for what he does and says, but also for the actions and consequences of all previous presidents and their administrations. And it’s true that a lot of the accusations make it sound as if Trump is somehow personally responsible for everything that happens in a way that has not been applied to previous presidents. I can’t say I’m a Trump supporter, I think all politicians suck to be honest, but it does seem to me that Trump is held to standards of conduct and speech that have not been applied to previous US presidents. Considering that Trump has almost the entire establishment against him, including most of the GOP, it’s noteworthy that he has been able to achieve what he has – as you have listed in a couple of your previous comments. I can’t help but wonder what Trump might have achieved had he not been attacked, sabotaged, undermined and vilified since before he took office.

That said, I do think LD has done a masterful job of combining verifiable quotations with her own voice acting as moderator, so I stand by my previous comment in this thread.

“I can’t help but wonder what Trump might have achieved had he not been attacked, sabotaged, undermined and vilified since before he took office.”

Seriously? If anybody “sabotaged” him, it was he himself. He had millions of people backing him up and a popular mandate to de-escalate. Instead of reversing course on foreign policy and taking us off the road to Armageddon, he betrayed us all. He stepped on the gas. His campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud. He’s Obama on steroids.

The sabotage I was referring to occurred when HRC realized she had lost, and accused Trump of collusion with Russia, and allowing Russian interference in the election. Almost the entire establishment jumped on board (the MIC needs a powerful enemy, and Russia serves in that role far better than “terrorists”). Once that happened, it was impossible for Trump to pursue any easing of tensions or better relations with Russia because the entire establishment was determined to make relations worse, and use the excuse that “Russia interfered in the election” to impeach Trump, if possible.

I say (write) again, I am not a Trump supporter, but neither do I think he should be held accountable for things he didn’t do or for which he was not responsible. The failure to develop better relations with Russia, post 2016 election, was the fault of HRC and her ilk making darn sure it wasn’t possible (i.e. sabotage).

Almost all political campaigns are “bait and switch” operations, that’s the nature of the beast, and why I think all politicians suck. They want our votes and will say and do anything to get them. That is why I no longer vote except on local issues.

“The sabotage I was referring to occurred when HRC realized she had lost, and accused Trump of collusion with Russia, and allowing Russian interference in the election. Almost the entire establishment jumped on board (the MIC needs a powerful enemy, and Russia serves in that role far better than “terrorists”). Once that happened, it was impossible for Trump to pursue any easing of tensions or better relations with Russia because the entire establishment was determined to make relations worse, and use the excuse that “Russia interfered in the election” to impeach Trump, if possible.”

I call bullsh*t on that “theory”. I can’t believe people still cling to it despite everything.
To the extent the theory of “government by Russian collusion narrative” ever had any plausibility whatsoever (and it didn’t IMO), that modicum of plausibility is long since gone.

Trump ran on a platform of challenging the “deep state”, and a very important part of that platform was to improve relations with Russia and cut the interventionist/nation-building crap that brought us to the brink of WW3, as exemplified by Obama’s brinkmanship in Syria, for example. Do you agree with me so far?

During the campaign, when it started looking like Trump could win, there was talk of Trump being assassinated by the “deep state”. Alex Jones, Paul Craig Roberts, et al., spoke of the serious danger that Trump was putting himself in. Such talk was all over the internet. And to the extent Trump actually was sincere, the possibility was real.

I can imagine a sincere Donald Trump and his wife lying in bed at night talking, as the campaign came into the home stretch, and she might have said to him: “Honey, Alex Jones is saying that you could be assassinated. Don’t you think that by challenging the powers that be you are putting yourself and your family in great danger? You’re 70 years old and well off, why do this now and risk everything?”
And a sincere Donald Trump might have responded: “Well yes, there’s certainly some risk, but if nobody steps up to challenge them, we’ll die in the nuclear war that they will almost certainly bring about, anyway. Somebody has to do something, and I feel I’m in a unique position to do it. This country’s been good to me, and now I want to give something back…blah…blah…blah”.
Do you agree with me so far?

So now let’s consider a conversation that Trump and his wife might have had more recently. Melania might have said: “Honey I thought you were going to get out of Syria, make amends with Russia, de-escalate the military buildup in Europe, investigate 9/11, etc.? What happened to all your campaign promises? What happened to preventing the nuclear war that the ‘deep state’ will bring about?”
And what would our Judas goat Trump say in reply to her? “Well honey, if I attempt to do any of the things I promised my supporters, if I actually try to put America first in a meaningful way, they might try to impeach me, or something like that. And to tell you the truth, I kinda like being the big boss, with all the attention and all the excellent golfing, etc.”

Seriously? The guy that stood tall in the face of relentless deep state intimidation during the campaign; the guy that wasn’t afraid to speak truth to power; the guy that looked death in the face (and death blinked first)…all of a sudden our hero finds himself paralyzed with the fear of possible impeachment?
Gimme a break.

But let’s say for the sake of argument that there is some “legitimate” political reason for Trump to be cowed into submission by the “Russian collusion narrative”. That could explain Trump’s initial refusal to lift sanctions against Russia that were imposed by Obama, but how does that explain Trump’s studious efforts to make everything worse? How does it explain Trump’s way-over-the-top illegal, unprecedented seizure of Russian diplomatic property in San Francisco? How does it explain Trump insultingly giving Russian personnel only two days to vacate their illegally seized property? It doesn’t.

The argument fails, miserably.

“I say (write) again, I am not a Trump supporter, but neither do I think he should be held accountable for things he didn’t do or for which he was not responsible. The failure to develop better relations with Russia, post 2016 election, was the fault of HRC and her ilk making darn sure it wasn’t possible (i.e. sabotage).”

See above. He must be held accountable for his failure to deliver on the promises that got him elected. He’s got a mandate from the people; he’s got the “deep state’s closet full of skeletons” any one of which could be “weaponized” and used to put them down; he’s got other possibilities. The problem is, Trump refuses to avail himself of any such remedy.

Why Trump’s even got the feared presidential “bully pulpit”, which may be the most powerful weapon of all. I should point out that Trump didn’t have any problem using his presidential “bully pulpit” to demonize Assad and blame him for gassing people; Trump didn’t have any problem using the presidential “bully pulpit” to threaten the destruction of North Korea (and the death of millions of people); finally Trump didn’t have any problem using the presidential “bully pulpit” to demonize Iran and to “justify” his unjustifiable effort to undermine the “JCPOA” treaty with Iran, potentially leading to war, despite the fact that practically the whole world is opposed to him on this. But he can’t use the presidential “bully pulpit” when it comes to his most important campaign promises? Bullsh*t.

“Almost all political campaigns are ‘bait and switch’ operations, that’s the nature of the beast, and why I think all politicians suck.”

Honestly I wasn’t expecting expects “Mister Rogers”, but candidate Donald Trump, who was not a career politician, who presented himself as an alternative to the impending nuclear war, turns out to be a complete fraud? His whole “platform” one big lie? Even worse than Obama and Bush? This isn’t normal dishonest politics here. This a betrayal of Biblical proportions; the stuff of end-times prophecy.

Sorry for my dismissive response. I can see you spent some time on your comment, and I feel I owe you a somewhat better explanation for why I choose not to respond. First, we clearly disagree, and it seems unlikely that either of us will change our opinions. Second, I have a splitting headache, and other issues associated with advancing age that make it imperative for me to avoid raising my blood pressure beyond the point where it already is, as evidenced by the headache. In my experience, it will take a couple of days to get my blood pressure back under control. Until then, I need to be calm and quiet, and not engage in heated debates or furious exchanges of comments. Finally, by the time I’d be in a position to respond, the entire Darkmoon commentariat will have moved on to something new. I’d rather agree to disagree and leave it at that. Hope you will understand.

“Second, I have a splitting headache, and other issues associated with advancing age that make it imperative for me to avoid raising my blood pressure beyond the point where it already is, as evidenced by the headache. In my experience, it will take a couple of days to get my blood pressure back under control. Until then, I need to be calm and quiet, and not engage in heated debates or furious exchanges of comments.”

I’m sorry to hear about your blood pressure issue. Anyway, both aging (per se) and age related diseases and conditions can generally be treated. (I’ve been studying this subject for many years). There are many natural treatments which can really help in most cases.

You want to try an experiment? I recommend some high lignan flax seed oil, say a tablespoon of Spectrum or Barleans high lignan flax seed oil mixed with a glass of low-sodium V8 juice, every morning as part of breakfast.

Then at some point during the day a glass of pomegranate juice (try to find a product without any added sugar). I also recommend some magnesium citrate before bed, say 150 to 300 mg.

And last but not least, some yogurt (with a good mix of active cultures) and some oatmeal for breakfast a few times per week. This will get you started on a serious BP lowering, anti-aging regimen.

I love reading your posts, dear Harold, you are obviously so well-informed and I can really relate to your enthusiasm for the Book of Revelation and other Biblical texts. But please go a bit easier on the adorable Carnaptious! He is not a gentleman who relishes getting into ding-dong arguments with people. He prefers amity to discord. His attempt to make amends to you for his abruptness really impressed me. He says he is old, but he sounds very wise to me also.

I keep remembering those words spoken by the Fool to King Lear: “Thou shouldst not have been old till thou hadst been wise.”

Wisdom is indeed a precious gift usually reserved for the old. Tragic if one gets to old age and lacks wisdom. Wisdom always comes, it seems to me, after much suffering in the maelstrom of life. Which is why you will never find a wise teenager. I sincerely doubt that anyone can become wise before the age of sixty.

I think Carnaptious is one of the wisest persons on this website. Pity there aren’t more people like him here, to act as role models and sources of inspiration. There is one person here who is constantly making trouble and kicking up a storm. Wisdom has passed him by. He is the very quintessence of Unwisdom, yet surrounds himself in an aura of omniscience. I really fear this quarrelsome person. He jangles my nerves and sets my teeth on edge. I won’t mention this obnoxious individual’s name lest I stir him to wrath.

Bye for now, Carnaptious and Harold. Peace be with you! May your guardian angels protect you from the demons of the night…

This a betrayal of Biblical proportions; the stuff of end-times prophecy.

I have nothing against the Bible, just like I do not have anything against the Koran. Yet, too much Bible, Harold, too much Bible.

You don’t have to worry about end-times, brother: the owners of this world love themselves too much, live too well, and have way too much fun for them to bring end to all this good stuff. They are anything but stupid. So, stop warring about biblical prophecies too much – that’s not good for your health and blood pressure.

You use words like “betrayal” and “traitor” generously while describing Trump. This doesn’t make sense to me. For Trump to be a traitor and betray you, he, at the very least, has to belong to the same entity as yourself. What makes you think that filthy billionaire Trump belongs to the same “mold” as bible-reading hypocrite Harold Smith, who doesn’t want to lift a figure to preserve the Empire and yet wants to live well off the back of the colonies fleeced by the Empire?

If red-haired fox tells the chickens that he belongs to them, convinces the chickens to open the door, and then eats them alive, does that make the fox a traitor to the chickens? No, it doesn’t.

But it makes the chicken, who thinks that the fox belongs to her breed, stupid. That’s for sure.

You said: “Citrates cause cancer.” That is a completely meaningless statement. That is an absurd statement. How do you expect me to respond to that?

Perhaps you’re just trying to be “funny”? Or perhaps you’ve never heard (or cannot understand) the phrase “the dose makes the poison”?

For you to say “citrates cause cancer” would be about as meaningful as me saying “water causes death”.

Did you know that people have been killed by water in their own bathtub? Did you know that water can cause you to be electrocuted by relatively low voltages? Did you know that water in the form of ice and snow has killed many people by way of car accidents and slip-and-fall accidents? Did you know that water in the form of steam or hot liquid can scald you to death?

Think about it Pat, that seemingly innocuous liquid – without which life as we know it would be impossible – and which is as close as your kitchen sink, kills thousands of unsuspecting people every year. So be advised: Don’t drink it, don’t take a bath in it, don’t swim in it, etc.

“It is less than wise to dismiss the research without reading it.”

What would be “less than wise” would be for me to waste time reading some book (wherein anyone can say anything they want), in the hope of trying to discover what you might have “meant” by your meaningless original statement, for the ultimate purpose of helping you try to sate your insatiable quest to prove me wrong about something. That would be “less than wise”.

Thank you all for your solicitude and advice. It is much appreciated. Some of that advice will be – or already has been – put into practice. Some of it, on cancer, comes a little too late.

@Madame B – thank you, especially, for your very kind words and perceptive thoughts. You’re right that I do not like conflict, although there was a time when I was always ready to reply in kind. Now, I prefer to avoid it unless there is no other option. I think a lot of wisdom lies in knowing just how little any of us can really know. If I am wise, it is because I’m keenly aware of just how little I do know. Odd, really, because I knew so much when I was younger…

“Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait!” – How true that is! Reincarnation might be something to look forward to if one came back with all the lessons of previous lifetime(s) intact. Then again, there would not be much point in coming back as a sagacious mayfly or earthworm. Life is full of such imponderables.

For any drone strike the president has to give personally permission and sign a document. These things don’t happen “behind his back”. So he is fulfilling his promise to kill also the family of terrorists. In a short time he has proven to be worse than Obama and Bush in this respect, and entirely unnecessarily. That typifies him morally.

For the president of the most powerful Super Power on earth words are important. Words of such a person can create situations that can spin out of control. If the president of the US threatens in the UN to completely destroy North Korea, then at least that is a sign that he is mentally unhinged and not engaged in some super mysterious “4D Chess” as you still seem to believe.

“while many considered the concept overly cumbersome under Obama, multiple sources who spoke candidly to U.S. News say it has taken on a new and urgent relevance in the Pentagon after Trump gave military commanders greater authority so they could, for example, act faster when an unexpected opportunity to attack a high-value target presents itself.”

That sounds as if drone strikes may no longer need to be authorized by the President in Terror Tuesday meetings, as was the case under “I’m really good at killing” Obama.

I’m not saying this was a good idea, that US wars are justifiable, or that the US military will do a better job. My sole intention is to make the point that it’s quite possible, indeed it’s likely, that Trump no longer personally decides and authorizes who gets whacked.

Point taken. But even if he does not personally decide about drone strikes, he must know about them and their great toll of civilian casualties. Ultimately he remains morally responsible. If I were president I would have stopped drone strikes all together.

Who can we blame for the barbaric bombing of Raqqa? We know that teflon Don has nothing to do with anything of the kind, right?

His lips might have inadvertently said something or his right hand may have inadvertently written something or signed some inadvertent piece of paper that someone inadvertently put on his desk…any or all of which were then grievously misconstrued by some subordinate, but we all know that teflon Don cannot possibly be responsible. After all he’s just a poor unfortunate babe-in-the-woods; a “good guy” in a bad situation.

F.R.,
“The Most Powerful Super-Power on Earth” is a debt-ridden relic of the past. Isnt Russia debt free? Also, their nuclear arsenal is vastly superior to U.S. It has to be. They have a small population with a huge landmass to protect. What say you, Pat? ….the most knowledgable scholar on this site?

“(1) Iran is attacked, along with Hezbollah and Lebanon.
(2) Syria is divided and Assad is doomed, leading to regime change in Syria much to Israel’s delight.
(3) North Korea is attacked.
(4) WW III breaks out, drawing in Russia and China.
(5) The Palestinians get pulverized by Israel, with more illegal settlements being built, and Trump gives his full support to Israel.
If none of these five things happen under Trump, that will be a VERY GOOD SIGN.”

As I see it, any of the first three would almost certainly result in WW3 (or a preemptive nuclear strike by Russia and/or China), and even #5 could conceivably result in WW3. So your statement can be simplified to read: “If Trump doesn’t start WW3, that will be a VERY GOOD SIGN”.

But consider the Obama presidency. I believe that Obama was planning a direct U.S. military attack on Syria to depose Assad and break up the country, and I believe that he came very close to realizing it, but Putin skillfully out-maneuvered him and prevented the attack. Thus since none of these five things happened when Obama was president (even though he tried to start a major war) does that reflect favorably on Obama in any meaningful sense?

Anyway, this is what I was getting at in my earlier post when I suggested that “all the low-hanging fruit has already been picked”. Just like Obama, Trump is stuck between a rock and a hard place; Adelson and Satanyahoo want Iran attacked, for example, but the consequences.
And this is why I believe Trump is setting the stage for a false-flag attack. He seems to be doing everything he can to try to make Iran and/or North Korea take some kind of action.
But if he ultimately fails to start WW3, it won’t be for lack of trying, IMO.

Assuming that Trump does not stop the release of the JFK documents, it will have the effect of throwing a hand grenade into the swamp. There has to be damning evidence in those documents or they would have been released on schedule during the Obama regime without any redactions and Trump’s head of the CIA would not be encouraging a time extension on the release. The release would put the swamp in a severe defensive position as the net catches fire with exposes about October 30 onward. The CIA’s credibility could be so jeopardized that Trump might accomplish one of JFK’s goals, dissolving the CIA.

Additionally, if as the PizzaGate forums predict, WikiLeaks drops the emails from Weiner’s laptop on October 21 or shortly thereafter, the swamp will be in complete panic meltdown.

@Lobro,
You make a fine argument FOR Trump, which should make many of us who still have an open mind at least question our anti-Trump positions. In spite of a few reckless acts, like bombing the Syrian air base over a chemical attack it did not commit, and decertifying the Iran deal in spite of condemnation from the rest of the civilized world, there is still reason to support him FOR NOW. As long as the Jew-owned MSM hates him and the Jew-controlled Washington establishment despises him, that’s reason enough to continue to give him some slack, even if he is on a short leash.

But you don’t know that for a fact; you’re speculating. And to the extent the jews do actually “hate” Trump (in some recondite sense at least), that doesn’t mean he’s not taking orders from the tribe and doing their dirty work.

“and the Jew-controlled Washington establishment despises him…”

But you don’t KNOW that. There is misinformation coming at us from all sides. If the propaganda in the air were water we’d be drowning in it.

“…that’s reason enough to continue to give him some slack, even if he is on a short leash.”

If Trump still deserves “slack” at this point then we need to let Charles Manson out of prison.

Harold Smith,
You are obviously one who does not have an open mind, as your continual reference to Trump as “Orange Clown” demonstrates. None of us knows for sure what is going on behind the scene, and neither do you. You are speculating as much as I. Isn’t that what we all do here?

“You are obviously one who does not have an open mind, as your continual reference to Trump as “Orange Clown” demonstrates.”

If it was your family that Orange Clown murdered, rather than some nameless peasants in Raqqa, I wonder, would you feel the same way? I would guess not.

Orange Clown is a mass murderer no better than his predecessors and apparently much worse. Your apparent refusal to acknowledge that people who speak different languages in far away places have just as much right to exist as you do, shows that you’re the one with a closed mind, IMO.

“None of us knows for sure what is going on behind the scene, and neither do you. You are speculating as much as I.”

You said: “As long as the Jew-owned MSM hates him and the Jew-controlled Washington establishment despises him, that’s reason enough to continue to give him some slack…”

You present your rank speculation as if it were generally accepted fact.

“Isn’t that what we all do here?”

No not really because some of us generally make bare assertions while some of us at least try to explain the reasoning as to how we arrived at a certain conclusion. I’m sorry but I can’t give much weight to speculation presented as fact, bereft of any argument in support.

I think you guys are basically on the same side. So no need for you to quarrel! Neither of you think very highly of Trump and both of you are hostile to the Jews and wish America could escape from their clutches. So you are kindred spirits under the skin.

The only difference between you two guys is that Harold is a bit of an “extremist” in regard to Trump, regarding him as totally beyond the pale, whereas Folly is asking for a more “moderate” and cautious approach.

As long as Trump has a lot of Jews in the enemy camp, and as long as the Jewish media are attacking Trump, Folly sees this as a reason to cut Trump some slack. In other words, Trump must be doing something right if so many Jews are against him. That’s what Folly feels, not without reason.

The only trouble wth this argument is that the Jews attacking Trump can be seen as lion tamers cracking their whips to make sure Trump keeps jumping through the right hoops. They are there to keep Trump in line. They are his lion tamers.

What they are doing is obvious. They are making sure that Trump toes the line at all time. That he does not deviate an inch from the Zionist agenda.

The Jews who are supporting Trump, like Adelson, and issuing him with his instructions, must be obeyed without question. That’s what the Trump bashers are there for. They are the enforcers: to make sure that Trump dances to the Jewish tune at all times and never even thinks of deviating.

That’s right, isis was created by McCain and the israelis, the same way they created Ak que da and bin laden.
But trump is smashing isis and not ousting the the sirian regime, which is what the Israel is want.
If that’s happening – how can we be so quick to reject djt as a total jew stooge?
He killed the tpp.
He’s against migration.
He’s very pro second amendment.
It’s obvious McCain hates him, while bib acts as if he approves of him..
SO w t f?
Screw Fredrick Wilson, maxine Waters and all their crummy little jack ass ilk. They have nothing to contribute, but are only good for media sniping, while they use their office to get richer and richer.
trump’s statement about the soldier knowing what he was getting into was a compliment on his bravery. No insult.
Her comments on trump’s phone call do not deserve repeating, but they do illustrate the Jackal mentality of the trump haters.
media scum twist everything to their jew agenda.
As in the case of the tiki torch March in carolina, where the marchers said “YOU will never replace us” the media called it “JEWS will never replace us”… terrible antisemitism – yeah…
what are us troops doing getting killed in niger?
Ask africom. It’s called x-war.
We’re conducting not-so-covert operations all over the third world, to make sure we put our own puppets in office there.
Most likely trump is just playing the ‘bad cop’ with prnk and his other ‘reckless’ iran statements. We’ll see on that.
Ld is correct on her list of proofs.
but a nuke war fits all too well the deagle report prediction of massive population reduction of the white race – usa and nat o against russia.

Trump, Adelson and ‘Put-On’ are planning casinos in Crimea and Sochi….

‘Put-On’ and Trump are buddies….

Both ‘Put-On’ and Trump use the Pharisee-Jew method for making “YUGE” profits… GAMBLING CASINOS..!!

PUTIN is ‘cash-poor’ and needs MORE USD…!!

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a new law allowing the establishment of a gambling zone in Crimea and extending the Krasnodar gambling zone to Sochi, according to a statement published on the official web portal of legal information.

**In Sochi – CASINOS – will be located near the Olympic Village… as PLANNED.. using foreign and Pharisee-Jew oligarchs’ money to do so..!!

Moscow banned gambling in Russia in 2009, EXCEPT – EXCEPT – for special designated zones across the country. ‘Put-On’ moves borders to do it..!!

The four zones established earlier are located in Kaliningrad near the Baltic Sea, the Far East, Siberia’s Altai Region, and southern Krasnodar territory….. STILL IN RUSSIA..!!

MOSCOW, July 23, 2014 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a new law allowing the establishment of a gambling zone in Crimea and extending the Krasnodar gambling zone to Sochi, according to a statement published on the official web portal of legal information on Wednesday.

The statement says that Crimean authorities will determine the borders of the new gambling zone. The Crimean leaders already said that they will either spread gambling facilities across the peninsula, or establish a gambling zone in the south coast of Crimea, near the town of Yalta, where the majority of resorts are located.

At the same time, the borders of the Krasnodar gambling zone will now be set by the Russian government so that the territory of Sochi will be included.

Russian lawmakers believe that allowing gambling in Crimea will attract investors, increase the number of tourists and create new jobs.
sputniknews.com/russia/20140723191133719-Putin-Signs-Law-Establishing-New-Gambling-Zone-in-Crimea/

Trump signed letter of intent for Russian tower during campaign
Aug 28, 2017

Four months into his campaign for president of the United States, Donald Trump signed a letter of intent to pursue a Trump Tower–style building development in Moscow…according to a statement from the Trump Organization’s then–chief counsel, Michael Cohen.

The proposal would have involved construction of the world’s tallest building in Moscow, according to developers of the project.

A top executive with Donald Trump’s real estate company emailed Vladimir Putin’s press secretary in 2016 asking for help expediting a project to develop a “Trump Tower” in Moscow, documents show.

Fox News obtained the email sent on Jan. 14, 2016 by Michael Cohen, the company’s executive vice president and Trump’s special counsel at the time. Cohen’s email was directed to Dmitry Peskov, the Russian president’s press secretary, though the email was addressed to the general press inquiries inbox.

I do hereby declare the state of worldwide emergency, more dire than invasion of space cannibals, a dizzying spread of deadly pandemic: Electoral earthquake in Czech Republic puts ‘Trump style’ Andrej Babiš in power
Those retarded Czechs, like insane Hungarians, saw Trump and unlike the sensible Noachides, the obedient, docile Conchitas of the West, decided THEY LIKE HIM?!? And they want their own, homegrown Trump, Babiš, Orban …
WTF???
Something really, really wrong with all those Slavs, drug-resistant strain of viral antisemitism running deep, maybe an increased dose of sanctions will quarantine them away from the Righteous Gentile, Mr Shabbo Schindler.

Lobro, sorry to disappoint you. Most commenters in Czechia disagree with the article:http://theduran.com/electoral-earthquake-czech-republic-puts-trump-style-andrej-babis-power/
from comments:
Far-right? LOL! Sorry Adam, but this is pure bullshit. This article is completely misleading… Babiš is a son of a former prominent communist official, informer of a former secret police. He lies all the time. He is even worse than mafiosos before him, because everything he does he does for himself, not for the rest of his fellow citizens. He changes the law for the purpose of profiting from a state budget.
Placing someone above the law and everyone else is just wrong, wrong, wrong. And it’s happening because Babiš has been charged with serious crimes that are expected to lead to 10 years in prison and his 30% in the elections is used as a smokescreen that is supposed to free him – and maybe 11 of his family members and collaborators who are also investigated – from all these problems.
Babis owning a monopoly of total food production, almost 100% and being the finance minister of the country is blatant conflict of interest… he has already stolen all that he needed…
Babiš lives from EU subsidies. He is a populist who does things only to enrich himself. Ordinary Czech citizen is only potential badly paid work force for him.
“A Little Bit for You, and a Lot For Me!!!”

I couldn’t figure out how an ex-banker and Rothschild lackey, with delusions of Napoleonic grandeur and a thought process “too complex for journalists’ questions”, got elected by a such a substantial majority. Easily rigged electronic voting machines may have helped.

Macron’s plan to curtail wages, benefits, and pensions so more resources would be available for immigrant hordes was, unsurprisingly, not well received. The question now is: will French police, whose wages, benefits and pensions may also be on the line, control the protests or join them?

“The idea of the BRICS was formulated by Chief Economist at Goldman Sachs, Jim O’Neill, in a 2001 study entitled “Building Better Global Economic BRICs”. It became an analytical category in economic, financial, business, academic and media circles. In 2006, the concept, itself, gave rise to the grouping, incorporated into Brazil, Russia, India and China’s foreign policy. In 2011, on the occasion of the Third Summit, South Africa became part of the group, who adopted the acronym BRICS.”

a) The initial authorized capital of the Bank shall be one hundred billion dollars (US$100,000,000,000). The dollar wherever referred to in this Agreement shall be understood as being the official currency of payment of the United States of America.

Article 7
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Authorized and Subscribed Capital
a)
The initial authorized capital of the Bank shall be one hundred billion dollars (US$100,000,000,000). The dollar wherever referred to in this Agreement shall be understood as being the official currency of payment of the United States of America.
b)
The initial authorized capital of the Bank shall be divided into 1,000,000 (one million) shares, having a par value of one hundred thousand dollars (US$ 100,000) each, which shall be available for subscription only by members in accordance with the provisions of this Agreement. The value of 1 (one) share, will also be the minimum amount to be subscribed for participation by a single country.
c)
The initial subscribed capital of the Bank shall be fifty billion dollars (US$50,000,000,000). The subscribed capital stock shall be divided into paid – in shares and callable shares. Shares having an aggregate par value of ten billion dollars (US$10,000,000,000)shall be paid – in shares, and shares having an aggregate par value of forty billion dollars (US$40,000,000,000) shall be callable shares.

http://www.ndb.int/wp-content/themes/ndb/pdf/Agreement-on-the-New-Development-Bank.pdf
The dollar wherever referred to in this Agreement shall be understood as being the official currency of payment of the United States of America… HAVING A PAR VALUE OF one hundred thousand dollars (US$ 100,000) each… Shares of stock INITIALLY subscribed by founding members shall be ISSUED AT PAR… ALL MATTERS before the Bank shall be decided by a simple MAJORITY OF VOTES cast. [emphases added]

my trusty, rusty bugle on overtime today: TA-RA-TA-TA-TATAAA …
not my fault that the various anti-correct headlines are pouring in, puhleez, i just want the pain to stop, might catch a splinter from all those exploding heads around me … A Revisionist Look at Soviet History 1930 – 1955

” So the purges were both good and effective. Again, some innocents were shot. But 10’s of millions of innocents were killed during World War II. We need to quantify those who were purged. The vast majority of those executed were Jews and non-Slavic citizens of the Soviet Union. Communist party members were frequently shot. Why? Because they were not trusted and showed hostility to the Soviet Government.”

The article you link to and quote with such approval is pro-Stalin propaganda. It is unreliable. The following statement from the article, for example, is blatantly false.

We need to quantify those who were purged. The vast majority of those executed were Jews and non-Slavic citizens of the Soviet Union.

Most of Stalin’s victims were Russian Christians. He gave the order to burn down Christian churches. No similar orders were given to burn down synagogues.

The idea that most of Stalin’s victims were Jews is laughable. If Stalin killed 66 million Soviet citizens in all, as Solzhenitsyn claims, are you saying that most of these victims were Jews? Quite impossible, given that the number of Jews in the Soviet Union were fewer than 4 million! 🙂

7-10 million Ukrainians were starved to death in Ukraine under Stalin’s orders. Almost without exception, these famine victims were Christian. The man presiding over this mass murder, delegated by Stalin to do so, was one of Stalin’s closest friends, the Jew Lazar Kaganovitch. He survived Stalin. This is one Jew Stalin did not put to death. Another Jew Stalin did not put to death was the psychopath Ilya Ehrenberg who was responsible for the mass rape of 2 million German women.

Great advice, i am sure you live by it and are ready to fall on your sword if the facts indicate so.
your comment is replete with so many falsehoods, so much misreading and misinterpretation at so many levels that i have no way of stacking them in an orderly manner.
First of all, if your fact-checking consists of breathlessly non-validated claims, endless ad hominem and howling expletives, it is a wonderfully successful strategy, witness Holocaust, whose eternal truth was established in exactly the same manner.

So, where do we start?
How about your unquestioned reliance on Robert Service (Robert Service, a noted Russian historian and political commentator, is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a fellow of St Antony’s College, Oxford) … I can only assume that you are in a full, 100% agreement with the following

He describes how the Kremlin dominates Muslims in the Russian Federation, exerts a deep influence on the Muslim-inhabited states on Russia’s southern frontiers, and has lunged militarily and politically into the Middle East. Foreign Muslims, he shows, do not value the leadership in Moscow except as a means to an end;PUTIN’S POSE AS A FRIEND OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD IS NO MORE THAN A POSE—AND A HYPOCRITICAL ONE AT THAT.

he places Putin and Stalin in the same basket of deplorables – why am i not shocked.
Might also want to check who pays his wages … 5 billionaires on the Hoover board.

If Stalin killed 66 million Soviet citizens in all, as Solzhenitsyn claims, are you saying that most of these victims were Jews?

Next: tell me Sardonicus that you have actually read (as in “read every word”) that quote at least.
The keyword is “Stalin’s PURGES”, maybe someone here can tell you the meaning of this phrase.
Or maybe you do know but only want to use it selectively, as in “when it suits my aims”, so that a statement like this

In support of this, it is pointed out that while such Jews as Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Martynov, Zasulich, Deutsch, Parvus, Axelrod, Radek, Uritsky, Sverdlov, Dan, Lieber, Martov, and others were prominent in the early history of the revolution, these have almost without exception been executed or exiled.

Right, ignore the execution (with extreme prejudice, in CIA jargon) of thousands of Jew Bolsheviks, it counts for nothing.
Survival of 2 Jews counts for everything – and at least one of them, ehrenburg pretended until his dying breath, to be heavily “anti-zionist” and very “critical” of israel.

Just how do you quantify numbers, sardonicus, e.g., 2 million, 66 million or in your words, “7-10 million”?
What did Service do, counted bodies and gave up after 7 million and added 3 million for a good measure?

And of course, you actually READ the linked article in Duran, I know you did because you are a man of letters, an ex-prof of literature, so what’s a short article for you.
Not to mention your invariable routine of checking facts before shooting your mouth off.
So, having read this, tell me which part do you find in disagreement with facts

Kulaks did not want collectivization. Interesting, leading Soviet leaders such as Gorbachov and Yeltsin were offspring of kulaks. The NKVD ( Peoples Committee of Internal Affairs, secret police) were held responsible for some of the chaos. The NKVD at that time was about 50% Jewish with a large number of other national minorities.

The % of Jews in the NKVD was reduced to 4% when the PURGES 😉 were completed in late 1939. The Russians/Ukrainians were a minority in the Soviet secret police in the early 1930’s. That changed late in the 1930’s when the big majority of NKVD agents were Russian.

The bad drought and the mismanagement/sabotage were responsible for the famine that followed. Kosior who was the head of the Communist party in the Ukraine at the time was executed in 1939. He was a Polish Jew. He was held responsible for the famine.

Ukrainians and Jews have been in some level of conflict since the mid 1600’s to the start of the pogroms in 1881 and beyond.

Cause of the famine has many aspects starting with a drought and followed by mishandling whether deliberate or ineptness. The famine and who promoted the extent of the famine needs to be examined. The Hearst newspaper was big on raising the massiveness of the famine.

With the stock market crash in the U.S. in 1929 and the resulting 10 year Depression, there had to be something very bad about socialism to balance the badness of the Depression. Before we explore the extent of the famine 2 facts have to be revealed.

First, the Ukrainian population grew by 3,340,000 from 1928 to 1939. About a 10% increase. Second, during WWII the Ukrainians were awarded Hero of the Soviet Union in the same percentage that they were in the population of the Soviet Union. They fought with the same intensity as the Russians.

Estimates of the famine depending upon the author vary from 10 million to 6 million to 3 million. Two out of these 3 estimates and more probably all of them are wrong.

Given the 2 facts noted above, these estimates have to be regarded as exaggerations. My own personal discussion’s with people from the Ukraine who were adults during the 1930’s gives no indication of a massive famine. Times were tough but people survived.

Douglas Tottle’s, book “Fraud, Famine& Fascism” published in 1987 by Progressive Books, 71 Bathurst St. in Toronto, Canada MSV2P6 (DK 508.8. T68 1987) provides a reasonable perspective about the famine in the Ukraine in 1932/33.

A Mennonite historian ( Mennonites have no axe to grind) estimates that those who died in the famine were less then (sic) 1% of the population or about several hundred thousand. NOT in the millions.

There are no cemetery’s (sic) in the Ukraine to suggest that 10% or more of the population died in the 1932/33 time period.

Sooo Sardonicus, let’s see you deal with this:“… the Ukrainian population grew by 3,340,000 from 1928 to 1939. About a 10% increase”.
Obviously, as per the census data.

Feel free to ask the Hoover Institute for help on this before shooting your mouth off.
But of course, since as per your idol’s equalization of Putin and Stalin, i cannot in all honesty be surprised at any of his holocaustian claims.

One final point, Sardonicus – this one I am quite certain you will ignore, don’t disappoint me by dealing with it in a fair and logical manner.
Russians regard Stalin as the greatest hero who ever lived, Putin comes third after Pushkin.
I guess those are the Russians eternally grateful that Stalin killed 66 million of their ancestors.

Pardon me for saying that these Oxford profs, Service and Dutton sound like they studied logic, epidemiology and statistics together because I see some marked similarities in how they do their fact-checking, conclusions (Stalin and Jesus are jew-loving mass murderer and epic psycho respectively) and how they shoot their mouths off.

Try to deal with this without flying into incoherent rage, Sard … just point out where I shoot my mouth off without reference to accessible facts and professional historians.

It is suggested that the bottom line is that Stalin’s purging of those “egregious” jews was essentially necessary for the Soviet state to continue in keeping with the long-term plan for RUSSIA to survive once the Soviet system was deemed to have outlived it’s purpose AS WELL as those jews.

Stalin served his masonic masters well, and his amorality that resulted in the deaths of innocents is in evidence.

Another bottom line is that it all happened UNDER STALIN’S WATCH! This made the individual, Stalin, COMPLICIT in the crimes overseen by those masonic jews runnin’ the whole damn SHOW!

He could have CHOSEN to get out of the whole shabby business, but he CHOSE not to!

WHY NOT? To give him the credit of the doubt, did he really believe that by being what was essentially the TOKEN Russian in charge he could somehow overturn the “great plan” that’s been in the works long before Hector was a pup? At any expense?

Try to deal with this without flying into incoherent rage, Sard … just point out where I shoot my mouth off without reference to accessible facts and professional historians.

Anyone reading my two posts above will have great difficulty in detecting any “incoherent rage” in them. This is because they were cool and fact-based. Unless you think my mild suggestion that you should “check your facts” displays “incoherent rage”….? 🙂

Take my quote from Robert Service:

“Stalin marched the Soviet Union in the direction of industrialization. Millions of peasants died while agriculture was collectivised.”

Even if Robert Service is the scoundrel you claim, can you explain how his quoted statement is invalidated just because Robert Service said it and you don’t like him?

2 + 2 = 4 even if a scoundrel (or a Jew) says it is! 🙂

Isn’t it common knowledge that “Stalin marched the Soviet Union in the direction of industrialization”? No one would deny this. Not even Stalin’s most ardent supporters. If you disagreed with this statement, you would have to be in a minority of one! It is universally recognized as a true statement.

“Millions of peasants died while agriculture was collectivised.” Isn’t this statement also 100% true, even though Robert Service said it?

The Russian peasantry, as anyone who knows about Russian history will tell you, were almost without exception white Russian Christians. None of them were Jews. This is because Jews despised agriculture and never engaged in it.

If you knew anything about Russian history during the Communist era, you would know that most of Stalin’s victims were Russian CHRISTIANS and that their killers were STALIN’S JEWS!

Stalin was in charge, you see. For over 30 years he was a totalitarian dictator. The carnage he presided over, the mass murders that claimed so many lives, the horrendous tortures, were all done at the behest of the bloodthirsty tyrant you admire.

† “Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka [Soviet secret police] stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with and shot by a Jewish investigator.” — Leonard Shapiro, British academic historian, quoted by Slezkine.

† “We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish. Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity.” — Jewish Writer Sever Plocker.

Stalin presided over this bloodbath, understand? Who else? He was the Big Boss. The Head Honcho. What do you think he was doing, hiding behind the sofa while all the carnage was going on? Are you so incapable of facing up to these cold hard facts?

Please let me know if you can detect any “incoherent rage” in what I have just said. The rage is all yours, it seems to me, because you don’t like being contradicted.

Stalin marched the Soviet Union in the direction of fighting the Nazis. Millions of Russian Christians died while the fight was raging. Not a single one of these Russian Christians was a Jew.

All these 3 statements by Circassian are as true as 2 + 2 = 4.

Conclusion? Well, isn’t it clear? Stalin, if he wasn’t a blood thirsty murderer specializing in killing Russian Christians, should have surrendered to the good Nazis (who, obviously, were just trying to free their brothers in faith from the Jewish Bolsheviks) to save all those good Russian Christians.

The only problem with this brilliant mathematical logic of Sardonicus is that the stupid Russian Christians do not understand it. They still are thankful to Stalin and rank him as the most outstanding statesman ever lived.

Couldn’t they pick up someone who was at least ethnically Russian?! Putin, Lenin, Peter the Great, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Mendeleev, Ivan the Terrible …

Yes Stalin modernized Russia and he fought the Nazis and I understand that the Russians appreciate that. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he was a cruel, murderous psychopath. The Russians are indeed stupid if they refuse to see that.

Mass stupidity is of course no monopoly of the Russians. The Chinese too still venerate Mao, even if he was a worse mass murderer than Stalin.

And don’t get me started on “prophet” Muhammad, founder of a criminal desert sect that grew into a world religion. He is to this day venerated as “the perfect man” (Arabic : al-Insān al-Kāmil) by 1,5 billion Muslims.

The world is inhabited by people that are for the major part intellectually, morally and spiritually primitive. Worship of unworthy men is part of that.

Sard,
Thanks for answering NONE of the issues I raised, a real confidence builder.
Meanwhile, I will respond to the following, directly.
Hope someone notes the difference in the debating tactics

Even if Robert Service is the scoundrel you claim, can you explain how his quoted statement is invalidated just because Robert Service said it and you don’t like him?

2 + 2 = 4 even if a scoundrel (or a Jew) says it is! 🙂

I will give you 2 reasons why I cannot take Robert Service as a serious historian but a mere political hack.

Robert Service detests Putin and distrusts him every bit as thoroughly as Stalin, which is a plus for Stalin, even to those who know nothing except the recent (5 yrs) history … I did mention his faculty camarade-in-arms, Dutton, who employs a similar sleight of hand, lumping Trump and Jesus as 2 world class psychos joined at hip – i see that you had no comment on this, is it okay with you? If so, neither Dutton nor Service are scoundrels, to use YOUR term, not mine, I merely stated my reluctance to take them seriously.

Secondly, Service is in service of neocons who run the Hoover Institute, if you’re fine with that, I am not – sorry.

So what do we have here, Sard?
Not even a “2+2”, in case it is too complicated but only “1+1”.
To me, “1+1=2”, i.e. 2 reasons to discard Service’s findings as suspect of unprofessional bias.
What is your answer, Sard?
“1+1=0”?

I don’t wish to be rude to you for two reasons, even though I disagree with you entirely. The two reasons I am holding off any attack on you right now are these:

(1) I believe you are 100% sincere in your admiration of Stalin, and passionate sincerity is usually a good quality, unless it is a sincere admiration for mass murder, pedophilia, or something else that is totally unacceptable.

(2) I also believe you actually have some knowledge of Russian history and are Russian yourself, so if anyone has a right to an opinion on Stalin it’s you.

The fact that 100,000 Russians — or maybe even more — happen to worship at the shrine of Stalin means nothing to me. Personality cults are not uncommon. I’m not going to worship Satan just because he has millions of fanatical devotees! Franklin Ryckaert has already answered you on this topic and I don’t wish to add to his reasonable comments right now. They make sense to me. Ryckaert generally knows what he’s talking about and is a welcome voice for moderation and common sense on this website.

The inescapable fact is that Stalin killed at least 20 million people at the lowest (mainstream) estimate and as many as 66 millions according to Solzhenitsyn and others. The majority of these were Christian peasants during forced famines and collectivization. None of this carnage can be ascribed to “fighting Hitler” or the Germans. Why slaughter your own people in their millions and send them off to the gulags and forced labor just because you have a war going with Germany? It is inexcusable.

My answer is that I don’t have any more time to waste on you.
I’ve already told you that Robert Service’s anti-Putin attitude is totally relevant to this quote which is 100 per cent true:

“Stalin marched the Soviet Union in the direction of industrialization. Millions of peasants died while agriculture was collectivised.”

I couldn’t care less if Robert Service hates Putin, or even cannibalized his own mother. The above quote is still 100 per cent true. If you can’t understand that, entering into further dialogue with you is pointless.

Please do not hold off your attacks on me. I revel in turning the very dagger thrown at me back into the heart of the attacker.

The fact that 100,000 Russians — or maybe even more — happen to worship at the shrine of Stalin means nothing to me. Personality cults are not uncommon. I’m not going to worship Satan just because he has millions of fanatical devotees! Franklin Ryckaert has already answered you on this topic and I don’t wish to add to his reasonable comments right now. They make sense to me. Ryckaert generally knows what he’s talking about and is a welcome voice for moderation and common sense on this website.

Now I am compelled to apologize to Franklin: as you have just proved conclusively, the brand of Franklin’s stupidity is not a monopoly of Franklin Ryckaert.

And if it is true that millions of peasants “died under collectivisation” — which no one will dispute — it follows that most of Stalin’s 66 million victims were CHRISTIANS. Not Jews, as you falsely claim.

Jewish thugs, led by the bloodthirsty Trotsky who was the head of the Red Army, did most of the killing of Christian peasants. The man you are praising, the psychopathic Stalin, was a killer of Christians!

You profess to be a Christian yourself, yet remain ignorant of the fact that the Stalin you praise so much was a Christ-hating killer of Christians who tortured millions of Christians to death and burned down their churches.

I completely reject the dubious source from which you get all your facts. Just as you reject Robert Service, an eminent historian and professor at Oxford University who has studied Russian history for decades and who documents all his facts in thousands of verifiable footnotes, I reject your “revisionist” historian who gives NO VERIFIABLE SOURCES, no footnotes, and is an ill-educated hack who doesn’t even know how to spell properly or where to put his apostrophes:

Trust you, Comrade Lobro, to scour the lower scum regions of the internet, to go to a PRO-STALIN propaganda site (!!!) to arm yourself with bogus “factoids”. 🙂

“Estimates of the famine depending upon the author vary from 10 million to 6 million to 3 million. Two out of these 3 estimates and more probably all of them are wrong.”

Big deal! We all know the figures are uncertain and disputed, but most authorities say 7-10 million. As for this idiot’s confident statement, “Two out of these 3 estimates and more probably all of them are wrong.”

(“Probably”? And supergenius Lobro thinks the figures have to be wrong because some obscure internet hack says they are “probably wrong?” More fool you to be so gullible and swallow the garbage dished up to you by this unknown ignoramus! )

“Given the 2 facts noted above, these estimates have to be regarded as exaggerations.”

NO sir, not on YOUR say-so!

“My own personal discussion’s (SIC) with people from the Ukraine who were adults during the 1930’s gives (SIC) no indication of a massive famine. Times were tough but people survived.”

Hah! You takes this idiot’s word for it? An illiterate oaf who makes TWO grammatical errors in ONE SENTENCE? Who doesn’t even know that the plural of “discussion” is “discussions” — not “discussion’s”?

“Douglas Tottle’s, book “Fraud, Famine& Fascism” published in 1987 by Progressive Books, 71 Bathurst St. in Toronto, Canada MSV2P6 (DK 508.8. T68 1987) provides a reasonable perspective about the famine in the Ukraine in 1932/33.”

Oh great! Oxford don Robert Service, make way for Canadian genius “Douglas Tottle”, whose book is published by some grimy backstreet basement publisher in terrific Toronto! Hope the spelling is correct in Mr Tottle’s “book”!

“A Mennonite historian ( Mennonites have no axe to grind) estimates that those who died in the famine were less then 1% of the population or about several hundred thousand. NOT in the millions.”

How reassuring! We must accept the word of a “Mennnonite historian” , presumably because Mennonites are religious folk and therefore “have no axe to grind”? A pity your informant is so ill-informed and vague that he cannot even provide the NAME of this high-powered “Mennonite historian”!

“There are no cemetery’s in the Ukraine to suggest that 10% or more of the population died in the 1932/33 time period. Sorrow and Eternal Memory to those who perished.”

No “cemetery’s”? You get you info from internet illiterates on pro-Stalin sites with axes to grind?

The rest of the article you quote as gospel truth is riddled with mistakes. Pure poppycock. You’re welcome to your dubious “sources”.

I’ll stick with Robert Service, Oxford don. He’s not to be written off as an unreliable source on Stalin just because he doesn’t share your admiration for Putin. The world is full of THOUSANDS of reputable scholars who don’t give a shit for Putin.

Since when does Putin worship become a criterion for truth? Isn’t a Putin hater just as right as a Putin lover when he says, “2 + 2 = 4?”

In a nutshell that will hopefully get your heads out of yer respective arses –

STALIN WAS COMPLICIT BECAUSE IT ALL HAPPENED UNDER HIS WATCH!

You both are conveniently dismissing the fact that Stalin was a high-ranking mason, and as such there can be little doubt that he was doing the bidding of his masters. Even in a best case scenario, all that could be said is that he truly believed he was doing the right thing, in keeping with an important aspect of psychopathic thinking. That many “non-egregious jews”, as I refer to them, died, as a result of the policies whose enactments he must share responsibility for as the head of state is reflective of that.

Point blank, Stalin was USED to further a dark agenda. Those who used him employed the classic m.o. of finding a man’s weakness and exploiting it to FURTHER that agenda

A few examples of this that come to mind are Hitler, whose sincere love of the Fatherland was played to the bitter end. Or Nixon, whose paranoia and “circle the wagons” mentality was exploited to result in HIS bitter end.

These are only two examples off the top of my head. I’m sure readers can think of many more. Trump, in my view is another one, perhaps similar to that of Stalin. Putin I find equivalent to Hitler in terms of the former’s love of the Russian motherland.

This world is the devil’s playground, and as such it’s inhabitants (us) can’t help but be sinners caught up in it’s sin.

People voted for President Trump because they were sick of the elites who ignored them. It was JUST THE START of an electoral revolution which is due to continue. Watch out for the mid-term elections.

He may be a weird man with a Mussolini Complex, but he is closer to the aims of many of the common people than the political, bureaucratic, media, academic and financial elites will ever be. That is the point that the article misses.

So long as CNN and the evening chat show hosts attack him he gets my support. That is really what it is all about.

“He may be a weird man with a Mussolini Complex, but he is closer to the aims of many of the common people than the political, bureaucratic, media, academic and financial elites will ever be. That is the point that the article misses.”

Trump is flirting with nuclear war. Is that what the “common people” want, a nuclear holocaust? That seems to be the point that you are missing.

If America had a President who DID NOT or WOULD NOT forcefully respond to such threats as Korean Rocket Man habitually issues, I’m sure most of you would be crying about that, too. It just seems stylish for airheads to swarm to ridicule and hang Trump in the wake of the Obongo catastrophe. You’re doing America NO GOOD. Considering the high-profile scum who despise Trump, I’d think you’d be looking for something good to say. (I’m glad I voted for him, now, considering the caliber of the opposing herd!) (But, of course, I happen to be more of a white nationalist than most of you seem…)

Kafkaesque: ..he(Franz Kafka) said in an interview in
his Manhattan apartment, ” is when you enter a surreal
world in which all your control patterns, all your plans,
the whole way in which you have configured your own
behavior, begins to fall to pieces, when you find yourself
against a force that does not lend itself to the way you
perceive the world.” (my emphasis)
In other word: Your own perception(delusion), of your
own fantasy, falls apart. You are judged(exposed).

” The Case Against Trump “(the imaginary debate), is
an attempt to show that Donald Trump is the ‘bad guy’,
the devil himself. The reality is that the world is
inundated with ‘ Trump’s. Donald Trump is only aproduct of the corrupt world system, a symptom, not a
cause. He was elected by the Trump supporters, and
rejected by the Trump opponents. The ugly head of the
irrational mindset comes to the fore.Subjectivism: ‘good’ is ‘evil’, and ‘evil is ‘good’

” The Case Against Trump” only exposes the corrupt world
system. Other then that, the message is meaningless.
The “Incarnate Evil” that rules the world is the collective
irrational mindset, the mindset of the vast majority of
individual who have fallen from grace, and whose mindset
has not been restored. Those who reject the message
according to the gospel.

The Time Has Come.
From the written Word:
31 And one shall undertake to fight against another, one city against another, one place against another, one people against another, and one realm against another.
32 And the time shall be when these things shall come to pass, and the signs shall happen which I shewed thee before, and then shall my Son be declared, whom thou sawest as a man ascending.
33 And when all the people hear his voice, every man shall in their own land leave the battle they have one against another.
34 And an innumerable multitude shall be gathered together, as thou sawest them, willing to come, and to overcome him by fighting.
35 But he shall stand upon the top of the mount Sion.
36 And Sion shall come, and shall be shewed to all men, being prepared and builded, like as thou sawest the hill graven without hands.
37 And this my Son shall rebuke the wicked inventions of those nations, which for their wicked life are fallen into the tempest;
38 And shall lay before them their evil thoughts, and the torments wherewith they shall begin to be tormented, which are like unto a flame: and he shall destroy them without labour by the law which is like unto me.

President Trump early Monday disputed the account of his phone call with a Gold Star widow, who provided a description of the call earlier that morning in an interview.

“I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation!” Trump wrote on Twitter, referencing one of the Green Berets killed earlier this month in an ambush in Niger.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump I had a very respectful conversation with the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, and spoke his name from beginning, without hesitation! 8:30 AM – Oct 23, 2017.

In a recent speech to the San Mateo County, California Republican Party, House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes said that at this moment investigators have more evidence of Democrats colluding with Russians than of President Trump doing so.

In recent public comments, the lawmakers investigating the Trump-Russia affair, along with some of the commentators who dissect its every development, seem to be focusing more on the facts of Russia’s attempts to interfere with the 2016 election and less on allegations that Donald Trump or his associates colluded with those efforts.

Head of US Air Force General David Goldfein is responsible, among other things, for fleet of bombers that may soon strike rogue state.

Of all the Jews in the world, the one who controls the greatest firepower is not necessarily Binyamin Netanyahu or the current commander of Israel’s Air Force. It appears the distinction is held by the Chief of Staff of the US Air Force, General David Goldfein.

Goldfein is the second Jew to hold the high position, and the first to have been a fighter pilot previously.

The first Jew to hold the high post was General Norton Schwartz, who commanded the force between 2008-2012. Schwartz was a helicopter and transport aircraft pilot.

The United States media has been quoting Goldfein for the past 24 hours because US heavy bombers armed with NUCLEAR WARHEADS are preparing for a 24-hour alert on the backdrop of tensions with North Korea. This means that all 76 B52 planes will be ready to take off at any moment for bomb missions.

Why One of Vladimir Putin’s Biggest Critics Is Banned From U.S.? Because Russia is reasserting itself on the international stage more aggressively lately. The more it does the more U.S. will be compelled to concede Putin.

Franklin Ryckaert: “Mass stupidity is of course no monopoly of the Russians. The Chinese too still venerate Mao, even if he was a worse mass murderer than Stalin.”

You’re now Darkmoon’s “China hand” and expert are you? FYI, the Chinese I know prefer high tea in London and even the middle-class Chinese do their darndest to send their kids to the best “public” (meaning, private) schools in the UK, followed by the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand et al.

No one in China “venerates” Mao. If the Chinese don’t speak ill of Mao, it’s simply because in Confucian culture it is extremely bad form to speak ill of the dead, but this does not mean we venerate Mao. Moreover, in China it’s all about going along in order to get along and to get ahead, and no one gets ahead in life or in business in China by speaking ill of Mao and by extension the ruling Chinese Communist Party he founded. The Chinese are very practical and pragmatic people.

PS

You and I know (or you should know) that Mao was a Rothschild puppet and that communism was imported by the filthy bolshevik Jews from Russia, but 99% of the Chinese do not know this and this is a huge topic for another time and another thread. Say all you want about that evil Jew Stalin — even if Stalin wasn’t a Jew, are Georgians Russian? — but leave China and Mao out of it. 🙂

No I will not leave China and Mao out of it. In China, just like everywhere in the world, the masses are stupid. The Chinese you know are obviously wealthy and educated people, not representative for the masses.

Here is an article in The Telegraph of Saturday 21 October 2017 :

IN CHINA, CHAIRMAN MAO STILL BIGGER THAN JESUS

Some excerpts :

On Monday, a 200 million yuan (£20 million) statue arrived to take pride of place in a grand memorial hall. Cast in solid gold, and sitting on a metre-tall jade plinth, the statue has awed some visitors to kowtow before it in reverence.

The managers of the hall thoughtfully placed three cushions on the floor, embroidered with lotus flowers, for people to fall to their knees.

The cult of Mao continues to resonate strongly in China. His three decades in power have never been open to critical assessment because the Communist party still depends on Mao for its legitimacy.

Indeed, the current government has cloaked itself even more heavily in Maoist rhetoric even as it continues to liberalise the economy.

As a result, many of the pilgrims to Shaoshan still regard Mao with worrying devotion.

Mao is a god in the East,” said Chen Min, a 23-year-old nurse who works at a hospital in Changsha, the nearest major city.

“My grandmother was here in Shaoshan for the 100th anniversary, when they installed the giant bronze statue in the main square. It was winter, but she said the flowers along the road bloomed as the statue was driven by.”

Even those old enough to remember the bad old days find it PERFECTLY POSSIBLE TO CONTINUE TO WORSHIP MAO WHOSE POLICIES LED DIRECTLY TO THE DEATH OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF CHINESE.

Your rebuttal is not convincing. The article that you cite from The Telegraph newspaper reads like an anti-China editorial, if not fake news. It’s hardly a real news story, in other words. You underscored several sentences for my attention, but no numbers or facts were given to quantify them.

For example:

“The cult of Mao continues to resonate strongly in China.”

How strongly? How many people in China would you say are “cult” members or worshipers of Mao? China has a population of over 1.3 billion, so even if 1 million people worship Mao, that’s still less than 1 % of the population that worships Mao. Are there, in fact, 1 million people who worship Mao in China? Where are the facts and figures?

All the other sentences you highlighted for me are rhetorical and cannot be quantified and therefore meaningless. I’ll repeat, the article you quoted reads like an anti-China editorial and fake news.

This isn’t really the right thread to go into it, but briefly:

The so-called “Cult of Mao” in China is nothing more than kitsch art gone berserk, that ostensibly and ironically started out as a CIA PSYOP in America. It is now well known that the CIA promoted and propped up Jackson Pollack and the American modernists in the 1950s, which paved the way for Pop Art and Pop Culture in the 1960s and Andy Warhol’s kitsch portraits of famous people, including none other than Chairman Mao. If you want to blame anyone for the “Cult of Mao” then blame the CIA and (((Andy Warhol.)))

To sum up, when I was in Hong Kong and China in the early 1990s to 2009, Chairman Mao in the contemporary Chinese art scene was both an iconic and ironic figure; oftentimes he was used to signify ‘chic dissent’ if not tongue-in-cheek parody. For art-interested readers like Lasha, here’s a short essay by the Sinologist and art critic Geremie R. Barmé (2008) that will give you a better understanding of what I’m trying to say.

SHOCK OF THE OBVIOUS

In 1993, the centenary of Mao Zedong’s birth, the chi-chi Beijing eatery Maxim’s de Paris organized a celebratory buffet for 200. The invitations bore the slogan “Long live Chairman Mao!” and patrons were requested to wear Mao suits. The restaurant was decked out with pictures of the chairman and Cultural Revolution posters. While the food was European haute cuisine, the evening’s entertainment featured an excerpt from The White-Haired Girl, a showcase production of the Maoist era.

It was a kitsch party to the memory of a man whose legacy remains hotly contested. More than anything it highlighted how, shortly after the ugly events of 1989, which saw the crushing of a nationwide protest movement, international marketeers—Maxim’s was a Pierre Cardin franchise—combined consumerist savvy with a nod-and-wink readiness to ingratiate themselves with the regnant power.

In the July 9 issue of The New Republic this year, the art critic Jed Perl published “Mao Crazy,” a scathing review of the Guggenheim Museum exhibition, “Cai Guo-Qiang; I Want to Believe” and the Rizzoli publication of Charles Saatchi’s private collection, The Revolution Continues: New Art from China. Some readers reacted to Perl’s speaking truth to the market with outrage. They were affronted that this outsider critic was gauche enough to point out the general artlessness and ideological canker of so much contemporary Chinese art. In remarking on the “tulip mania-like” frenzy that has seen ridiculously inflated reputations and prices reach dizzying heights on the international art bourse, Perl was also boorish enough to reflect on the compromised morality of many of those “on the low down” in China. Others, like this writer, were intrigued that a non-specialist critic finally had the gumption to comment on “the Chairman’s New Clothes” (pace Sinologist Simon Leys) with such verve.

Departing somewhat from his brief as an art critic, Perl remarks that the nature and content of some of the most popular artwork from mainland China “compels a political analysis.” “Much of the work,” he observes, “is powered by a startling and completely delusionary infatuation with Mao Zedong and the Cultural Revolution. This is more sinister than anything we have seen in the already fairly astonishing annals of radical chic.”

Perl’s essay and the ire of his critics are both worthy of lengthy analysis, but for the moment I can offer only a few simple thoughts. It is true that Perl overlooks the powerful and disturbatory origins of some contemporary Chinese non-official art. He also seems to be unaware of the complex history of alternative cultures in post-1976 China, where non-state creators played on and subverted party orthodoxies, or the impact of American academe on the rise of neo-Marxist apologists for Mao since the 1990s. I would observe that it is two decades since John Minford and I wrote in Seeds of Fire: Chinese Voices of Conscience: “It is in the borderlands of permissibility that contact between alienated or marginal writers and the State takes place. They barter endlessly, using different rates of exchange—freedom to publish, or the right to remain unmolested, permission to enjoy the privileges of the cultural elite or even to travel overseas. Deals are cut, or fall through as the case may be. The sensitive pressure points of the individual are laid bare, in the antechambers of the Velvet Prison.”

To follow the evolution since then of the complex relationships between the party-state and various artists that have been lubricated by opportunism and offshore capital is endlessly fascinating. Perl and others are alarmed (or delighted, as the case may be) by the unsettling politics of contemporary Chinese art and its marketing or, to quote Perl, “the extent to which contemporary art can give authoritarianism an international cachet.” Nonetheless, the nascent forms of co-optation and mutual infiltration were evident from the mid-1980s, and they have developed apace. Hungarian dissident Miklós Harastzi, who coined “velvet prison,” remains a useful guide; years ago he wrote, “The more talented and flexible the state, the more pleasurably it can suck the dissidents’ vital fluids into the organism of state culture.” Of course, once-dissenting cultural figures are not averse to feeding off the over-state either. With the Opening Ceremony of the Beijing Olympics on August 8, 2008, which featured the talents of both filmmaker Zhang Yimou and Cai Guo-Qiang, we have witnessed this process achieve a zenith, as well as an international mass-media audience. It was, to take a line from Perl, “the most expensive propaganda the world has ever seen.”

When I saw the Guggenheim’s Cai Guo-Qiang show reprised at the China Art Gallery during the Olympics, I recalled the advent of non-official art in that place two decades earlier. What I wrote then still seems relevant: “What perspective does the cultural scene in China allow us, compared to the Peking Spring, the Democracy Movement, the troubled birth of artists and literary self-expression ten years ago? What perspective is possible now that the China Art Gallery, the proletarian palace of socialist art, makes its halls available to virtually any self-styled avant-garde artists who can afford the rental fee? The end-result of Reform may well be the creation of a new avant-garde art-to-order: dissent on tap.”

The Cult of Mao as “kitsch art” (whether started by the CIA or not) is obviously a minority phenomenon, not representative of the masses.

Not “kitsch art” is a solid gold statue of mass murderer Mao, worth £20 million, to which the people make pilgrimages and kowtow to. You need a lot of pilgrims to make the manufacture of such a statue profitable (but yes neither The Telegraph nor I have counted all the Chinese who venerate Mao, so you still can claim it is “only” one million).

Keep in mind that “Great Helmsman” Mao was already venerated during his life, when he murdered his millions and ruined his country with his “Great Leap Forward”. The Cultural Revolution that he unleashed was enthusiastically participated in by millions of Chinese, happily murdering their school teachers and destroying thousands of ancient art treasures, and of course Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung AKA “The Little Red Book” was the source of ultimate wisdom for countless millions of Chinese. This collective infatuation of the Chinese is solid proof of my thesis that masses everywhere (and thus also in China) are indeed stupid.

The “case” has been discussed without disclosing the charge.
Is the charge that Trump is :

1. A dangerous psychopath?
2. A liar?, reneging on most if not all electoral promises. (TPP cancellation is just a post electoral bone- something had to be thrown to the masses. A Trump towering wall will not be built.)

We are informed that 1. is true for all very wealthy elites. 2. appears civilizational constant and a corollary of 1.
Thus, not much to comment on.

However,Trump has brought this beautiful world closer to Armageddon than at any time in history. Waiting and seeing for Lasha’s 5 points is akin to waiting and seeing if an infant with matches and a gas oven will destroy a block of houses.

Putin this week:

“The US had missiles which we never used to – we believe that we aligned the situation now. From our side the answer will be instant, I want to say that it will be instant and mirrored,” the president stressed.

The case that Trump is the most dangerous president in US history, grievously threatening ALL life on earth is proven. Anyone still supporting him because he hasn’t banned guns yet is incapable of risk assessment and should stay at home less they confuse a bus for a bicycle.

Regardless of whether a person is a Trump supporter or not, your Putin quote is why there will not be a nuclear Armageddon. If Pat is right, there are no nuclear missiles anyway, still no nuclear Armageddon. If Jesus is right, the meek will inherit the earth which they can’t do if they are not here, still no nuclear Armageddon.

If the jewish media is pumping fear, don’t fall for it. Fear is a control mechanism of evil.

@GILBERT and UNGENUIUS
I originally had a “PAT disclaimer” in my message but took it out. :-

PAT is an admirable poster with many surprising facts and background information. I have exchanged a little on the subject of nukes with him. Boiling it down … nuclear devices are 100% real. PAT does not believe they can fit inside a missile. He provided links to read on this but I have not found time yet. Given that engineering now occurs and nano meter scale, including nano meter sized machines, then on balance, for the moment I asses that nukes are real.

It would be a shame to be burning in a nuclear fire and the last flicker of consciousness being “PAT was wrong” 🙂

Those ‘engineering’ accomplishments have absolutely no effect on ‘Geometrical and Material Buckling’ and the positions of protons and neutrons and the various isotopes of fissionable material needed for any violent and uncontrolled super-criticality…. to produce an explosion.

There are some scientists who do not believe that atom bombs exist. There has recently been a book by a Japanese physicist to that effect.

It is not easy to get explosive fission. If the nucleus of a uranium atom is represented by a tennis ball the nearest electron shell would be over a mile away. most of an atom is empty space. Neutrons must collide with that nucleus, which is a minute target. So getting explosive fission going is not easy. A “Fizzle” is the result of insufficient collisions. North Korea evidently had some fizzles.

The technolgy has “Improved” greatly since 1945 and nukes can be small enough to fit in the NATO 155mm artillery shell, and that is 30 year old technology. God knows what the latest nukes are like.

Another example of Pat-the-Leader’s “creative” work. No one can accuse this “leader” of being excessively succinct, but in this particular case the leader restricted himself to giving the title of the video. Why? Because the title is misleading, ladies and gentlemen, so it would more appropriate to call him Pat-the-Misleader.

Indeed, after taking the trouble of watching the video, it turns out that US releases trove of Kennedy assassination files:

Since you follow me around and stick to me like tar…. parsing every word of mine… noticing and reading me more closely than anyone here… obviously trying to learn from me…
…. have some more events…. noticed by “Pat-the-Misleader.” 🙂

Hillary and ‘Put-On’ were “BIGGLY” making more deals than Trump…

Real Russian Influence in American Politics…. happened when John Podesta Received $35 Million from Russia While Working for Hillary

The Russian government invested in Joule Energy in 2011, and Podesta was a board member, while he was an advisor to Hillary Clinton at the State Department.

Many millions of DACA kids have grown up to become American doctors, lawyers, teachers and members of our armed services. Some do not even speak the language of those nations to which they’ll be deported. Illegal aliens on dairy farms often are abused and paid below-minimum wages while shoveling manure into our waterways.

On October 25, 2017, the House Judiciary Committee – Republicans – passed an amended “Agricultural Guest Worker Act” (called the Ag Act) which is a program overseen by the USDA under Sonny (Mr. Fertilizer-head) Perdue.

The vote was 17-16 and included all of the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee voting “nay.”

The Ag Act enables 450,000 previously unauthorized illegal aliens to remain working on dairy farms by reducing regulations and giving them guest visas.

The “YUGE” difference between those who tend to cows for a living and those DACA children who grew up knowing only the United States as a home is the millions of dairy industry dollars used to bribe members of Congress(by lobbyists) into enacting laws to preserve their occupancy and Make us Great Again.

The Key word here is: “allegations”,
From Canadian CBSA Canada Border Services Agency’s Policy on the Classification of Hate Propaganda, Sedition and Treason
Memorandum D9-1-15
8. Goods that incite or promote hatred against an identifiable group, by incorporating some or all of the following allegations, may be prohibited as hate propaganda:

(a) allegations that an identifiable group is to blame for serious economic or social problems;
(b) allegations that an identifiable group manipulates media, trade, finance, government or world politics to the detriment of society;
(c) allegations that an identifiable group is inferior or superior to another group; and/or
(d) allegations that an identifiable group weakens or threatens society, in whole or in part.

The bible could well fall into such a category as the allegations Jesus made against the jews would be in today’s bible, defined as hate literature.

Propaganda?? Or a generally accepted and well established fact?
The media is the tribe.
And the opposition to humanity.
Their allegiance is with the egregore.
Who Controls Big Media?
Summary: Of the twelve (12) senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations, nine (9) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 75%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations by a factor of 37.5 times (3,750 percent).
Who Controls Hollywood?
Summary: Of the sixty (60) senior executives of the major Hollywood studios, trade unions, and talent agencies, fifty (50) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 83%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major Hollywood studios, trade unions, and talent agencies by a factor of 41.5 times (4,150 percent).
Who Controls Television?
Summary: Of the sixty-four (64) senior executives of the major television broadcast networks, cable networks, and production companies, fifty-seven (57) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 89%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major television broadcast networks, cable networks, and production companies by a factor of 44.5 times (4,450 percent).
Who Controls Music?
Summary: Of the fifty (50) senior executives of the major music labels and trade organizations, thirty-nine (39) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 78%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major music labels and trade organizations by a factor of 39 times (3,900 percent).
Who Controls Radio?
Summary: Of the forty-six (46) senior executives of the major radio broadcast networks and station owners, twenty-eight (28) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 61%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major radio broadcast networks and station owners by a factor of 30.5 times (3,050 percent).
Who Controls Advertising?
Summary: Of the forty-six (46) senior executives of the major advertising corporations and trade associations, thirty-one (31) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 67%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major advertising corporations and trade associations by a factor of 33.5 times (3,350 percent).
Who Controls the News?
(Part 1) Summary: Of the sixty-seven (67) senior executives of the major television and radio news networks, forty-seven (47) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 70%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major television and radio news networks by a factor of 35 times (3,500 percent).
Who Controls the News?
(Part 2) Summary: Of the sixty-five (65) senior executives of the major newspapers and news magazines, forty-two (42) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 65%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the major newspapers and news magazines by a factor of 32.5 times (3,250 percent).
Who Controls Social Media?
Summary: Of the twenty four (24) senior executives of the “Big Players” in social media corporations, eighteen (18) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 75%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the “Big Players” in social media corporations by a factor of 37.5 times (3,750 percent).

By declaring war on the media, Trump has in fact declared war on Jews. Of the four hundred & thirty four (434) senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations along with Hollywood, Music, Radio, Television, Newspapers, News Magazines & Social Media Three hundred & twenty six (326) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. The over representation by Jews as the CEO’s & senior executives in all these associations averages 3700% including the trade unions, talent agencies, production companies, broadcast networks, station owners, advertising corporations and trade associations. This is a numerical representation of 75%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews and spouses of Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the aforementioned media corporations by a factor of 37 times (3,700 percent).

Interesting number crunching, thanks for that.
326, it’s not a lot of people, it’s roughly the same number of people killed by one bomb in Baghdad last year,
When is the next AIPAC assembly by the way?.
As a side issue, I sure do wish folk would stop referring to (( them )) as “Jews” , the word Jew generates sympathy among many due to their control of the media over many years, where we to refer to them as Zionists, I believe our joint quest would be more fruitful.