That diagram shows two similar drawings of one stick-figure football player hitting another. Next to the first drawing are the words, “QB or receiver that makes over $10M — Illegal.”

Next to the second drawing are the words, “Punter or anyone else we don’t give a f–k about — Legal.”

And under that is the summary: “Remember! We at the league office are totally concerned about integrity! Seriously! No really, we totally are!”

Vikings punter Chris Kluwe first tweeted a picture of the diagram, and the diagram specifically mentions that hits on punters are OK, presumably in response to the league using a hit on Seahawks punter Jon Ryan as an example of what is allowed. So it’s not unreasonable to think the diagram was Kluwe’s handiwork.

LOL!
He plays Warcraft. Douche.
But we all know this is being done to protect offensive play makers. That is what drives the TV ratings. Certainly not punters……and definitely not grown ass men that play Warcraft…..an name a twitter account after Warcraft.

LOL!
He plays Warcraft. Douche.
But we all know this is being done to protect offensive play makers. That is what drives the TV ratings. Certainly not punters……and definitely not grown ass men that play Warcraft…..an name a twitter account after Warcraft.

its true, and considering how many helmet to helmet collisions there are in the trenches, its clear the nfl is only concerned with open field head shots…take a look at the jones-drew’s first rush on monday night, tennessee lb meets him in the hole, and helmets collide.. thats ok though, because tenn lb didnt “launch” himself, or provide a “devastating” enough hit right.

its true, and considering how many helmet to helmet collisions there are in the trenches, its clear the nfl is only concerned with open field head shots…take a look at the jones-drew’s first rush on monday night, tennessee lb meets him in the hole, and helmets collide.. thats ok though, because tenn lb didnt “launch” himself, or provide a “devastating” enough hit right.

Yeah, this IS GREAT! But …………….. I think players are actually missing a greater point to make here. ACTUALLY, Robinson got his money in free agency this year as I recall, and Jackson still hasn’t gotten a new deal and is still playing under his rookie. So if he had gotten “blown up” and couldn’t play again (at 170 lbs going across the middle) he woulda been out the BIG payday they have on the board here. It makes a bigger argument in my mind for players that DO hold out for better deals AND against an 18 game schedule!

Yeah, this IS GREAT! But …………….. I think players are actually missing a greater point to make here. ACTUALLY, Robinson got his money in free agency this year as I recall, and Jackson still hasn’t gotten a new deal and is still playing under his rookie. So if he had gotten “blown up” and couldn’t play again (at 170 lbs going across the middle) he woulda been out the BIG payday they have on the board here. It makes a bigger argument in my mind for players that DO hold out for better deals AND against an 18 game schedule!

What does it take for people to learn the rule? It is really simple.
If there is a defenseless player on the football field, at any position, you cannot hit him in the head or neck. Period. You cannot hit him in the head or neck with your helmet, with your shoulder, or with your forearm. You can’t hit the head or neck of a defenseless player.
There is no “bang-bang” exception.
If you want to put a devastating hit on a defenseless player you can. It is legal. Just don’t hit the head or neck area. You can hit the chest area. You can hit the stomach area.
It’s simple.

What does it take for people to learn the rule? It is really simple.
If there is a defenseless player on the football field, at any position, you cannot hit him in the head or neck. Period. You cannot hit him in the head or neck with your helmet, with your shoulder, or with your forearm. You can’t hit the head or neck of a defenseless player.
There is no “bang-bang” exception.
If you want to put a devastating hit on a defenseless player you can. It is legal. Just don’t hit the head or neck area. You can hit the chest area. You can hit the stomach area.
It’s simple.

leatherneck – here’s my problem with your “simple” explanation. Does the offensive player ducking down at the last second contribute to being hit in the head? How do you judge it? If a hit would have been legal except that the offensive player ducked/lowered their head right before the collision leading to a shot to the head – is it not a foul, no fine, no suspension? I think everyone understands the rule – it’s the reality of deciding the relative “contributing factors” that make this clear as mud! Why shouldn’t all receivers start ducking at the last second to try to force suspensions, etc?

leatherneck – here’s my problem with your “simple” explanation. Does the offensive player ducking down at the last second contribute to being hit in the head? How do you judge it? If a hit would have been legal except that the offensive player ducked/lowered their head right before the collision leading to a shot to the head – is it not a foul, no fine, no suspension? I think everyone understands the rule – it’s the reality of deciding the relative “contributing factors” that make this clear as mud! Why shouldn’t all receivers start ducking at the last second to try to force suspensions, etc?

Hey Leatherneck,
Do you work for the league office? You seriously can’t see the problem with this new emphasis? If you can’t you are not very bright…. let me break it down for you..
First, the Robinson hit was legal. He led with his shoulder and hit the chest of the other player. It is sick that he was fined.
The officials are now going to be throwing flags for any big hit no matter if the head was contacted or not. Also, you are going to have a few defensive players hesitate for a split second and not making plays. The whole concept of seperating the player from the ball will be lost.
That’s the f’n problem. Big hits are a big part of the game and I don’t appreciate the game I love being altered.
Get it now?

Hey Leatherneck,
Do you work for the league office? You seriously can’t see the problem with this new emphasis? If you can’t you are not very bright…. let me break it down for you..
First, the Robinson hit was legal. He led with his shoulder and hit the chest of the other player. It is sick that he was fined.
The officials are now going to be throwing flags for any big hit no matter if the head was contacted or not. Also, you are going to have a few defensive players hesitate for a split second and not making plays. The whole concept of seperating the player from the ball will be lost.
That’s the f’n problem. Big hits are a big part of the game and I don’t appreciate the game I love being altered.
Get it now?

NFL has a new “Punter Kill Shots” DVD concept they want to sell to the public, along with an XBox/Wii game called “Death to All Punters”
They are asking all players NOT to stop destroying punters until they get enough videos (still photographs will be available on NFLshop.com for $179.99 in a high quality matted frame for your home or office).

NFL has a new “Punter Kill Shots” DVD concept they want to sell to the public, along with an XBox/Wii game called “Death to All Punters”
They are asking all players NOT to stop destroying punters until they get enough videos (still photographs will be available on NFLshop.com for $179.99 in a high quality matted frame for your home or office).

It’s actually pretty refreshing that the players, as well as most of the fans, recognize that what’s driving Goodell isn’t player safety – its public relations.
That’s been Goodell’s approach since Day 1
Filming of NFL plays and playcalling by other teams has been going on since the 1950s, and continues today… but do it in a way that embarrasses Roger Goodell? Big fine and loss of a draft pick.
Tampering between agents and teams happens all the time… everyone knows this, but if you embarrass Roger Goodell while doing so, expect to lose a draft pick.
The bottom line for anyone in the NFL – forget about safety… the #1 Rule is DON’T MAKE ROGER GOODELL LOOK BAD
Unfortunately Goodell can’t fine himself

It’s actually pretty refreshing that the players, as well as most of the fans, recognize that what’s driving Goodell isn’t player safety – its public relations.
That’s been Goodell’s approach since Day 1
Filming of NFL plays and playcalling by other teams has been going on since the 1950s, and continues today… but do it in a way that embarrasses Roger Goodell? Big fine and loss of a draft pick.
Tampering between agents and teams happens all the time… everyone knows this, but if you embarrass Roger Goodell while doing so, expect to lose a draft pick.
The bottom line for anyone in the NFL – forget about safety… the #1 Rule is DON’T MAKE ROGER GOODELL LOOK BAD
Unfortunately Goodell can’t fine himself

actually CdnMike, the game you love was altered long ago when players forgot how to properly tackle. They’re more worried about the big hit than they are with sticking and rapping. If you played football growing up you would have heard “Stick and rap” a million times. Now go watch a game, and tell me how many times you see that, especially from secondary players. They lunge, generally head first and don’t even attempt to wrap. Thus, you’ll see some bad injuries and some tacklers not making a tackle. The sports turned into nothing more than the best athletes, not the best football players.
Watch the old school big hits. The tackler is sticking and wrapping with his head up, not down like so many do it today. When you get people that are too ignorant to realize the dangers then they will keep doing it and ultimately, that is the problem.

actually CdnMike, the game you love was altered long ago when players forgot how to properly tackle. They’re more worried about the big hit than they are with sticking and rapping. If you played football growing up you would have heard “Stick and rap” a million times. Now go watch a game, and tell me how many times you see that, especially from secondary players. They lunge, generally head first and don’t even attempt to wrap. Thus, you’ll see some bad injuries and some tacklers not making a tackle. The sports turned into nothing more than the best athletes, not the best football players.
Watch the old school big hits. The tackler is sticking and wrapping with his head up, not down like so many do it today. When you get people that are too ignorant to realize the dangers then they will keep doing it and ultimately, that is the problem.

leatherneck says:
October 22, 2010 8:16 AM
What does it take for people to learn the rule? It is really simple.
If there is a defenseless player on the football field, at any position, you cannot hit him in the head or neck. Period. You cannot hit him in the head or neck with your helmet, with your shoulder, or with your forearm. You can’t hit the head or neck of a defenseless player.
———————————————
It’s so simple that we have “experts” from every network reviewing each of these plays in super slow mo/high def, and they have conflicting opinions on them. The guys are so big and fast now, and they’re just going to keep getting bigger and faster. The problem is this is another advantage for the offensive. Defenders are going to be hesitant to make a hit thinking they might get flagged. Though often times it’s the offensive players naturaly instict to duck his head at the last second that leads to the head to head contact.
What about revoking the chuck rule? Go back to when a db could bump a guy until the ball was in there are. Knocking guys off their patterns downfield will keep them from getting a full head of steam going as often. I feel like it’s one way to possibly slow the game down a little.

leatherneck says:
October 22, 2010 8:16 AM
What does it take for people to learn the rule? It is really simple.
If there is a defenseless player on the football field, at any position, you cannot hit him in the head or neck. Period. You cannot hit him in the head or neck with your helmet, with your shoulder, or with your forearm. You can’t hit the head or neck of a defenseless player.
———————————————
It’s so simple that we have “experts” from every network reviewing each of these plays in super slow mo/high def, and they have conflicting opinions on them. The guys are so big and fast now, and they’re just going to keep getting bigger and faster. The problem is this is another advantage for the offensive. Defenders are going to be hesitant to make a hit thinking they might get flagged. Though often times it’s the offensive players naturaly instict to duck his head at the last second that leads to the head to head contact.
What about revoking the chuck rule? Go back to when a db could bump a guy until the ball was in there are. Knocking guys off their patterns downfield will keep them from getting a full head of steam going as often. I feel like it’s one way to possibly slow the game down a little.

Funny stuff. But it is true. I don’t go to the game to see a player punt. But I love those acrobatic receptions. And the big hits.
But I hate all the injuries. Who wants to watch Joe Shmo underthrow an open John Doe.
So how can we avoid the injuries without killing the game?

Funny stuff. But it is true. I don’t go to the game to see a player punt. But I love those acrobatic receptions. And the big hits.
But I hate all the injuries. Who wants to watch Joe Shmo underthrow an open John Doe.
So how can we avoid the injuries without killing the game?

The NFL is trying to make the league into a bunch of defenders that tackle properly. For every helmet to helmet “big hit”, there are just as many hits where a receiver bounces off the guy and keeps running because he wasn’t wrapped up.
I don’t watch a football game to see a big hit, or a guy carted off. this isn’t Nascar, and I’m not hoping to see to see a crash. Good offense, good defense, and a tough competitive game. That’s the NFL.

The NFL is trying to make the league into a bunch of defenders that tackle properly. For every helmet to helmet “big hit”, there are just as many hits where a receiver bounces off the guy and keeps running because he wasn’t wrapped up.
I don’t watch a football game to see a big hit, or a guy carted off. this isn’t Nascar, and I’m not hoping to see to see a crash. Good offense, good defense, and a tough competitive game. That’s the NFL.

The NFL is quickly turning into a joke. The games have become extremely predictable – last team with the ball scores.
There is no player loyalty to teams, tickets to games require getting a second mortgage to pay for them, players rarely speak without their agents permission, tax payers build their stadiums, owners refuse to report their earnings, players want multi million dollar contracts with huge signing bonuses and now they want to create a “kinder, gentler” playing field so no one gets hurt.
It’s turning in to a laughing stock.goodness for college football.
Thank

The NFL is quickly turning into a joke. The games have become extremely predictable – last team with the ball scores.
There is no player loyalty to teams, tickets to games require getting a second mortgage to pay for them, players rarely speak without their agents permission, tax payers build their stadiums, owners refuse to report their earnings, players want multi million dollar contracts with huge signing bonuses and now they want to create a “kinder, gentler” playing field so no one gets hurt.
It’s turning in to a laughing stock.goodness for college football.
Thank

The irony that the Minnesota Vikings, out of all teams, would be mocking the “integrity” of the league. Here is the franchise that went to state court to avoid the consequences of the NFL substance abuse policy, a policy that is followed to the letter by the other 31 teams. The same franchise that introduced the word, “Whizanator”, another attempt to circumvent the rules established by the league.
Rules are merely suggestions to the Vikings; not allowed to resell your allotment of Superbowl tickets, no problem if you are the head coach. Speed limit signs on the Crosstown Highway, they don’t apply to Viking players.
I agree the story is funny; it’s just that the Vikings should be the last team in the NFL to call anybody out for a lack of integrity, they are in such dire need of it themselves.

The irony that the Minnesota Vikings, out of all teams, would be mocking the “integrity” of the league. Here is the franchise that went to state court to avoid the consequences of the NFL substance abuse policy, a policy that is followed to the letter by the other 31 teams. The same franchise that introduced the word, “Whizanator”, another attempt to circumvent the rules established by the league.
Rules are merely suggestions to the Vikings; not allowed to resell your allotment of Superbowl tickets, no problem if you are the head coach. Speed limit signs on the Crosstown Highway, they don’t apply to Viking players.
I agree the story is funny; it’s just that the Vikings should be the last team in the NFL to call anybody out for a lack of integrity, they are in such dire need of it themselves.

letherneck,
it’s seems simple enough but there is more to it. If your going full speed, running a 4.4 in Robinson’s case, to try to separate the receiver from the ball (what they are paid to do) and the receiver ducks his head or lower’s his body get ready for the hit, your chest shot just became a head shot–at speeds that you nor I probably have any concept of–to just pull out of that is impossible. I played for a 1-AA school in college and it’s hard at that level to just reprogram yourself to do something different. The NFL has no clue what it’s like out there on the field…James Harrison hit on that receiver, if you look at it again, the receiver ducks his head, so yeah, head shot. What’s the dummy ducking his head for. This goes both ways. you can;t just start slapping 75K fines on guys for doing their jobs…clearly it’s not that simple!

letherneck,
it’s seems simple enough but there is more to it. If your going full speed, running a 4.4 in Robinson’s case, to try to separate the receiver from the ball (what they are paid to do) and the receiver ducks his head or lower’s his body get ready for the hit, your chest shot just became a head shot–at speeds that you nor I probably have any concept of–to just pull out of that is impossible. I played for a 1-AA school in college and it’s hard at that level to just reprogram yourself to do something different. The NFL has no clue what it’s like out there on the field…James Harrison hit on that receiver, if you look at it again, the receiver ducks his head, so yeah, head shot. What’s the dummy ducking his head for. This goes both ways. you can;t just start slapping 75K fines on guys for doing their jobs…clearly it’s not that simple!

This focus on the hard hits is keeping the masses satiated. This isn’t the problem. The equipment is the problem.
Mike Webster, a center who never got “blown up” by a big hit, his brain was much. Chris Henry, a receiver who may have had 1 or so “blow up” hits on himself, his brain was mush.
It’s the constant head hitting in the trenches and just every down play that is detrimental to the players’ health.
Until the equipment they wear is seriously overhauled nothing will change as far as head injuries go.

This focus on the hard hits is keeping the masses satiated. This isn’t the problem. The equipment is the problem.
Mike Webster, a center who never got “blown up” by a big hit, his brain was much. Chris Henry, a receiver who may have had 1 or so “blow up” hits on himself, his brain was mush.
It’s the constant head hitting in the trenches and just every down play that is detrimental to the players’ health.
Until the equipment they wear is seriously overhauled nothing will change as far as head injuries go.

big hits are part of the game. Its a big part of why we watch it. Take them away and you will take away a part of our interest in the sport. I dont care how lousy it sounds, I enjoy watching a QB get flattened in the pocket when he isnt looking, or a WR get jakked up when he goes over the middle.
The helmet to helmet stuff is one thing. But sometimes it seems unavoidable especially when ther player on offense lowers his head. Its like theyre outlawing everything and turning it into a PC snooze fest. You cant celebrate TD’s and thats even if you could figure out what a rule book TD catch is. Its a violent game played between highly competitive and extremely strong men. People are going to get hurt and its unfortunate, but theyre taking things too far. Stop ruining the sport we all love!

big hits are part of the game. Its a big part of why we watch it. Take them away and you will take away a part of our interest in the sport. I dont care how lousy it sounds, I enjoy watching a QB get flattened in the pocket when he isnt looking, or a WR get jakked up when he goes over the middle.
The helmet to helmet stuff is one thing. But sometimes it seems unavoidable especially when ther player on offense lowers his head. Its like theyre outlawing everything and turning it into a PC snooze fest. You cant celebrate TD’s and thats even if you could figure out what a rule book TD catch is. Its a violent game played between highly competitive and extremely strong men. People are going to get hurt and its unfortunate, but theyre taking things too far. Stop ruining the sport we all love!

Nope. Not funny.
And nope. Not true.
But the Vikings and a bunch of Neanderthals from this site who have never been hit by a professional football player can believe whatever they like. The league has to crack down on this… too many people are suffering brain damage and other physical affects from kill shots that are inconsistent with the proper way of tackling. I was taught the proper way to tackle in high school and to this day I remember that instruction. Some of today’s players are a little too in love with themselves and the attention they get for a well placed kill shot to realize that they are not bigger than the game, nor more important than the safety and well being of all players.
Football will still be a highly physical sport even after players begin tackling correctly, and this is borne out in the number of clean plays made each and every game That may not please the Bud guzzling crew that visits this site, but it is a simple truth.

Nope. Not funny.
And nope. Not true.
But the Vikings and a bunch of Neanderthals from this site who have never been hit by a professional football player can believe whatever they like. The league has to crack down on this… too many people are suffering brain damage and other physical affects from kill shots that are inconsistent with the proper way of tackling. I was taught the proper way to tackle in high school and to this day I remember that instruction. Some of today’s players are a little too in love with themselves and the attention they get for a well placed kill shot to realize that they are not bigger than the game, nor more important than the safety and well being of all players.
Football will still be a highly physical sport even after players begin tackling correctly, and this is borne out in the number of clean plays made each and every game That may not please the Bud guzzling crew that visits this site, but it is a simple truth.

Over 1,600 plays in the NFL last week. 4 fines. One fine for every 400 plays. 99.998% of plays LAST WEEK did not result in a fine for an illegal hit.
And this is going to ruin football?
What exactly are we getting so worked up about here again?

Over 1,600 plays in the NFL last week. 4 fines. One fine for every 400 plays. 99.998% of plays LAST WEEK did not result in a fine for an illegal hit.
And this is going to ruin football?
What exactly are we getting so worked up about here again?

That’s a funny diagram but I doubt the league office is going to have a sense of humor on this. If you can’t celebrrate a touchdown, you probably can’t get away with this. What was the dudeee thinking putting this on tweet? I’m glad he did so we could see it, but this is almost as dumb as swimming in a sewer canal in Indianapolis at 4:30 in the morning wen it’s 43 degrees!

That’s a funny diagram but I doubt the league office is going to have a sense of humor on this. If you can’t celebrrate a touchdown, you probably can’t get away with this. What was the dudeee thinking putting this on tweet? I’m glad he did so we could see it, but this is almost as dumb as swimming in a sewer canal in Indianapolis at 4:30 in the morning wen it’s 43 degrees!

even david stern had more credibility. even the commish in the steriod baseball era days didnt get this much shit..
since goodell took office. the ticket prices have soared makin it impossible for familys to watch games.. TD celebrations have eliminated, fines/flags have been through the roof, and rules have been implanted ridicilously to help offense..
though he has helped a little hes f’in it up more than anything..bring back paul

even david stern had more credibility. even the commish in the steriod baseball era days didnt get this much shit..
since goodell took office. the ticket prices have soared makin it impossible for familys to watch games.. TD celebrations have eliminated, fines/flags have been through the roof, and rules have been implanted ridicilously to help offense..
though he has helped a little hes f’in it up more than anything..bring back paul

Is the league going to suspend Heins Ward when he blindsides a defender? ESPN had a fluff piece on him today and one of their highlights was him blowing someone up by leaping off of his feat headfirst and fists into their head.

Is the league going to suspend Heins Ward when he blindsides a defender? ESPN had a fluff piece on him today and one of their highlights was him blowing someone up by leaping off of his feat headfirst and fists into their head.