LANCE ARMSTRONG QUITS: 7-Time Tour De France Winner Won't Fight Doping Chargeshttp://www.businessinsider.com/lance-armstrong-doping-charges-2012-8/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:24:57 -0400Henry Blodgethttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5038e1efeab8ea7716000015mommifriedSat, 25 Aug 2012 10:32:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5038e1efeab8ea7716000015
For Armstrong, these are just bumps in the road. He has maneuvered around them his entire career. He’s an inspiration and continues to do incredible work via the Lance Armstrong Foundation. I hope he doesn’t let these new challenges be the ones that stop him on his continued journey of greatness. He has overcome near disasters many times before. He will overcome this one, too, and triumph. <a href="http://bit.ly/RKhz5R" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/RKhz5R</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50388b54ecad044d73000008aabaileySat, 25 Aug 2012 04:22:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50388b54ecad044d73000008
Here's one for you: As Lance doesn't fight the charges, won't that be the same as admitting the use? I know it's not black or white, but it would seem logical that if you won't to come out clean you better fight your case to the bitter end.
Anyways, huge respect for him and what he has done off the field/road.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50388302ecad047e62000016CamSat, 25 Aug 2012 03:47:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50388302ecad047e62000016
USADA has the jurisdiction to ban him from any sport that is enforced by WADA code.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503815bf69bedd8265000006LiguriaFri, 24 Aug 2012 20:01:03 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503815bf69bedd8265000006
usada and travis tygart in particular should burn in hell. this definitely smells fishy. there is no way on earth that Lance would pass multiple international test had he taken any chemicals. US is so screwed up with a bunch of people trying to benefit from other's pain. f.. hyenashttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ed96ecad044b63000001Kyle McHattieFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:09:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ed96ecad044b63000001
@joshKB then also teach them innocent until proven guilty. And teach them not to be vidictive little assholes like Travis Tygart, when they can't get what they want fairly.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ed1a6bb3f7c923000005Kyle McHattieFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:07:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ed1a6bb3f7c923000005
And again, they have no authority, so no he won't. IF his titles are stripped they will be stripped by a real authority in the matter. And none of them are going to do it, because he passed all the tests they require. This is a witch hunt being conducted by a tiny little man named Travis Tygart.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037eba669bedd7503000016Kyle McHattieFri, 24 Aug 2012 17:01:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037eba669bedd7503000016
Cycling a joke? That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time. You have obviously never ridden a bike. There is not a single pro baseball player that is even in the same league as Lance Armstrong, athletically. Not one of them could keep up with him if he was riding an hour after a chemo session. It amazes me the ignorance of some people :)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ea85ecad04fd5800000cKyle McHattieFri, 24 Aug 2012 16:56:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037ea85ecad04fd5800000c
Lance is right. This is a stupid witch hunt and ridiculous at that. The USADA has broken all their own rules, have had no integrity at all, let other athletes slide for narking on their peers, with no proof.
The ASADA is a joke, with no authority to do a damn thing to his titles or his reputation. It should die in a fire.
Lance armstrong has shown over and over with his test results that he is not a cheater. If they have proof otherwise, credible truth that is, bring it out, let the real testing committees examine the tests and decide from there. Until then: USADA, piss off. You have no credibility at all.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037a69e69bedd606400000fProofFri, 24 Aug 2012 12:06:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037a69e69bedd606400000f
"PS - does anyone else understand the logical fallicy that is proving you didn't do something? It's impossible, it can't be done. You can prove you did something, but it's logically impossible to prove you didn't do something."
Exactly, and that's why it's so ridiculous that Armstrong keeps saying that he never failed a drug test and therefore didn't dope. It doesn't prove that you never doped, Lance. It merely proves that you never was caught.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037a3e66bb3f7701e000001Dope Use Far-Fetched?Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:55:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037a3e66bb3f7701e000001
Many of these cyclists AREN'T competing! That was probably a spin from the Armstrong camp. Hamilton, Landis and Hincapie all quit. What have they to gain? And even if it was just the testimony of Armstrong's former teammates, there's other circumstantial evidence too: the allegedly failed test from the Swiss doping lab, former Armstrong assistants saying they found steroids and syringes, his work with a convicted dope doctor (Ferrari), Bruyneel refusing a sample collector access to a house to test Armstrong, Armstrong consistently beating all his doped rivals and now the USDA allegations. Maybe he DID use doping. Why are you dismissing the possibility outright? It's not far-fetched.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503791666bb3f7037b000001InvestorFri, 24 Aug 2012 10:36:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503791666bb3f7037b000001
Many of his former teammates are still competing. The USADA offered them deals if they'd implicate Armstrong, in exchange, they would be spared the lifetime ban they rightly deserve.
The USADA basically went to all of Armstrong's former teammates, told them that they (the USADA) had sufficient evidence to bring them (the teammates) up on doping charges and ban them for life from all competitive sports, and offered to give them immunity if they'd implicate Armstrong. Given many of them are still competing and attempting to make a living and support their families, they did what one would expect. They rolled over and implicated Armstrong, evidence be damned.
PS - does anyone else understand the logical fallicy that is proving you didn't do something? It's impossible, it can't be done. You can prove you did something, but it's logically impossible to prove you didn't do something.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50378ca469bedd0e2900000bDougFri, 24 Aug 2012 10:16:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50378ca469bedd0e2900000b
Games and sports have rules. Lance Armstrong played within the rules, that is he submitted to all tests and passed all of them according to all reports. Did he take banned substances? I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that he in fact did (I'm not a big fan of his). Maybe he and his doctors figured out how much he could take so that he stayed within the legal limits that the races allowed. Moral? Ethical? I guess not, but legal - well games and sports have rules. If the rules need to be changed (improved drug testing), then change them, but don't punish those who played within the rules.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037882cecad040828000007Swiss TestFri, 24 Aug 2012 09:57:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037882cecad040828000007
"He never failed a test"
Doesn't say much. Countless athletes never tested positive during their careers. That's mainly because dope users are always one step ahead of the authorities. Besides, according to a Swiss lab, Armstrong did test positive, but the samples couldn't be used because of some very minor technicalities.
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=6614413" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=6614413</a>
And why are many of Armstrong's former teammates now saying that he did use doping? Hamilton, Landis and, in secret, also Hincapie and Leipheimer. Are they all lying? If so, what have they to gain? Or perhaps the truth is that Armstrong really is no hero and that he did use doping during his career.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503779c76bb3f71250000001DudeFri, 24 Aug 2012 08:55:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503779c76bb3f71250000001
Lance Armstrong give your life to Jesus.God's hand behind everything.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503772216bb3f7c242000001JimboneFri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:57 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503772216bb3f7c242000001
What part of this don't you understand?
I'm not an Armstrong fan, but no other biking athlete has been tested and scrutinized more than him. He's never failed a test.
He's being accused by other athletes he competed against, he bested every time, and most importantly who actually GOT CAUGHT doping. Landis and Tyler look like weasels to me... trying to tear down Armstrong for no other reason but to deflect their own shame.
Lost in all of this is that the USADA has no ability to actually strip the titles from Armstrong. Only an international biking body should be able to do that, and this non-profit is playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner.
Smells like a corrupt witch hunt to me. So forgive me for giving the cancer survivor who did something incredible the benefit of the doubt.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376fb9eab8eae511000024dontuseepoFri, 24 Aug 2012 08:12:41 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376fb9eab8eae511000024
Didn't bother reading his statement. No sympathy for him. He comes across as insecure and caring only about himself. Bike racing and most other sports are a joke. Ride a bike and enjoy it, but don't worry about how fast others ride. I think lance's long-term goal was to be a politician and in texas, something like this will probably only make him more popular. I do wonder if his antics caused his cancer or increased his odds of getting it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376eabecad047a79000006MobileGeorgeFri, 24 Aug 2012 08:08:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376eabecad047a79000006
I'm not a huge baseball ban, but I played the sport and know that it does take natural born talent to be able to hit a 95 MPH curve ball. Not everyone can do it no matter how much you practice. In contrast, anyone can hop on a bike. And to gain the endurance needed, all you need to do is put in the time and dedication. Throw in some drugs and you'll be better than most. There is some truth to what Kenny Powers said, "I play real sports, I'm not trying to be the best at exercising." lolhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376c14eab8ea270900000elance sandusky and followersFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:57:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376c14eab8ea270900000e
Come on people...you will look like a Sandusky Supporter if you can't admit the truth. HE CHEATED. LANDIS CHEATED. And he explained how...one of the things Armstrong did was carry his own oxygenated blood with him on tours and do transfusions.
HIS DOCTORS CHEATED.
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18788834" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18788834</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376b69ecad046272000015lance sandusky and followersFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:54:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376b69ecad046272000015
Delusional...LANCE cheated. LANDIS cheated.
HIS DOCTORS cheated. What planet have you been living on?
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18788834" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18788834</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376a5b69bedd9a56000002TCFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376a5b69bedd9a56000002
Yeah, the guy excelled in a bike race that lasts three weeks and covers a couple thousand miles, through 2 mountain ranges in the middle of the summer heat...and still have a win where you're only 10 mins ahead of the number 2 guy over that whole ordeal.
Most basebal players would need time off just following it in a chase car. And given that everyone else on the podium in his 7 years of winning was doping...he probably still would have won them.
Still, he should just come clean.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376978ecad04436e000007Mark MurphyFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:46:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376978ecad04436e000007
Supposedly, the World Anti-Doping Code requires Lance be stripped of his titles. Here's a direct quote from the AP: "They {UCI} have no choice but to strip the titles under the code," he said.
<a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CYC_ARMSTRONG_DOPING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" target="_blank">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CYC_ARMSTRONG_DOPING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a>
If you actually work for the UCI, USADA or maybe even are among the few with the courage to use a real name, by all means state what facts you have. Unfortunately, it looks like DowJones, Reuters, Drudge, AFP, NBC, CBS, ABC, Bloomberg and essentially the entire world media are printing that the odds for Lance seem bleak, and nothing I or anyone else says here is likely to make a damn bit of difference.
If they're liars, Lance should sue 'em for libel. If I was innocent and rich, I would sue their a**. A righteous man Never cowers from defense of his honor, though he be assaulted by overwhelming odds.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037652c69beddc044000022lance SanduskyFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:27:40 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037652c69beddc044000022
I know the two year olds who continue to support Lance even though Lloyd Flandis lost his title years ago for drugs, can't handle the truth about your HERO LANCE LIVEWRONG. But sooner or later you'll have to face it. READ PLEASE before you make yourself look like a SANDUSKY supporter. LIES are LIES.
"Included in USADA's evidence were emails written by Armstrong's former U.S. Postal Service teammate Floyd Landis, who was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after a positive drug test. Landis' emails to a USA Cycling official detailed allegations of a complex doping program on the team.
USADA also said it had 10 former Armstrong teammates ready to testify against him. Other than suggesting they include Landis and Tyler Hamilton, both of whom have admitted to doping offenses"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503764396bb3f7eb24000016LIVEWRONGFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:23:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503764396bb3f7eb24000016
I really hated those bracelets cause after Flandis we knew ARMSTRONG cheated.
I'm changing mine to LIVEWRONG. Does anyone wonder why children in the US are raised to be dishonorable and cheat at any cost? How can any parent teach respect and honor for themselves if all children learn how to cheat indirectly?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503763596bb3f7c52200000clance sandusky and followersFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:19:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503763596bb3f7c52200000c
TRUE. I would love to see those guys exposed for who they are cause like Armstrong and Sandusky and Madoff...right to the end...they'd be saying, "NO I didn't cheat" and Blankfein would have lawyers writing how he was doing Gods Work til the moment the jail cell door clicks behind them.
Then when the gig was finally up, like every cheater, they would say "oh well, you got me". It's part of their need to LIE to protect themselves. They will never easily STOP LYING until they have to.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503762f3eab8ea9e74000015Mark MurphyFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:18:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503762f3eab8ea9e74000015
The information provided was directly quoted from the AP. I didn't write the story, they did.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037625a6bb3f7f32400000aLiveWRONG LanceFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:38 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037625a6bb3f7f32400000a
Lance Cheated. FLANDIS cheated and was stripped. 10 team mates were going to TESTIFY against him.
Aw come on people. Grow up! He's no hero. He's a cheater.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037620b69bedd3c38000016lance sandusky and followersFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:14:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037620b69bedd3c38000016
You People crack me up...willing to believe in anything just to protect the little two year old inside. Just like Sandusky right to the end...."no I was just playing with those boys".
He can't stop lying to himself and neither can you.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376198eab8eae06f000003lance sandusky and followersFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:12:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50376198eab8eae06f000003
Ha....just like Sandusky. I didn't do it....but buried in the article....10 yes 10 team mates are set to TESTIFY against him. OMG you people will believe any crap cause your emotionally like children who just found out SANTA Claus can't FLY!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037603d6bb3f7b020000004drumsFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:06:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037603d6bb3f7b020000004
Good. A cheat is finally toppled.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375f736bb3f7d120000001dalai guevaraFri, 24 Aug 2012 07:03:15 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375f736bb3f7d120000001
Got no point? First spoil the Sydney, now the Tour - what next? No one over here cares about Baseball...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375b86ecad04fe57000001zeuxFri, 24 Aug 2012 06:46:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375b86ecad04fe57000001
....soon to be replaced by "Go f%#$ yourselves" braceletshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375b6269beddbe26000028Oh yes!Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:45:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375b6269beddbe26000028
Oh yes! It's the fault of the French...
After the GODWIN, may i suggest the FRENCH POINT?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503758b1ecad04d34b00002bzeuxFri, 24 Aug 2012 06:34:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503758b1ecad04d34b00002b
....did your friend also say he was abducted by aliens?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375790ecad04ae47000023zeuxFri, 24 Aug 2012 06:29:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50375790ecad04ae47000023
huh, what....the presumption that PE substance use is the exclusive domain of US athletes is retarded. My gawd, get a clue.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503756d7eab8eaf05a000013YodeFri, 24 Aug 2012 06:26:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503756d7eab8eaf05a000013
As far as I'm concerned, the organized sport(mafia) of cycling is a non-entity. Going forward, I will never spend a moment, dime, or any resource on following, endorsing, or any other form of contemplation on it. It is an absolute farce.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037555eecad04944300001cWorking 122Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:20:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037555eecad04944300001c
look I like lance, but the guy cheated. It's not like there no evidence here. Teammates including George hincapie have said they all did it. Lance lied to us for years. Looked in the camera and said he was clean. He's a con man that put money in front of everything else. I says he's a jerk.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50374a15ecad046537000008l'pricorneFri, 24 Aug 2012 05:32:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50374a15ecad046537000008
and i though you were a prick about iphones only, now i see you're prick pretty much about anything.
Beltway Greg = going down the toilet, you junkie shite.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037493769beddf00c000013zuckeredagainFri, 24 Aug 2012 05:28:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037493769beddf00c000013
sorry for the triple post there guys. my comp went nuts. apologies again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503748e469bedd7f0d000005zuckeredagainFri, 24 Aug 2012 05:27:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503748e469bedd7f0d000005
Another Usain Bolt-legend-my -arse-type puts his tale btwn the legs to exit 'gracefully' after making millions. The argument that somehow LA doesn't want to spend money fighting the USADA case against him eventhough his integrity and reputation is at stake, or wants to move on with his life and therefore has no problem accepting being stripped of his 7 TDF tittles, is insulting not only to LA himself, known for supposedly having a 'strong character', but also to his fans (including me) who believed and defended the guy over the years..... Yes Lance's blood samples never tested positive, but so did Marion Jones'.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503748276bb3f75476000003zuckeredagainFri, 24 Aug 2012 05:23:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503748276bb3f75476000003
Another Usain Bolt-legend-my -arse-type puts his tale btwn the legs to exit 'gracefully' after making millions. The argument that somehow LA doesn't want to spend money fighting the USADA case against him eventhough his integrity and reputation is at stake, or wants to move on with his life and therefore has no problem accepting being stripped of his 7 TDF tittles, is insulting not only to LA himself, known for supposedly having a 'strong character', but also to his fans (including me) who believed and defended the guy over the years..... Yes his blood samples never tested positive, but so did Marion Jones'.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503742e269beddda79000026belogicalFri, 24 Aug 2012 05:01:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503742e269beddda79000026
It's amazing how much evvort the gov't will put in to something like this, that has little to no effect on the lives of Americans, yet four years after the largest crime ever committed in the financial world and no has even been charged.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50373b93ecad04241600000adalai guevaraFri, 24 Aug 2012 04:30:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50373b93ecad04241600000a
J_A_I_L_T_I_M_E!!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037385669bedda262000006explain thisFri, 24 Aug 2012 04:16:22 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037385669bedda262000006
I am so sick of this sh_t! Ban all US American athletes from competitive sports until proven INNOCENT.
You guys are spoiling the fun for the rest of us...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503737c869bedd0563000009JoshKBFri, 24 Aug 2012 04:14:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503737c869bedd0563000009
Should the "inspiration" be "Do cheat, but try not to get caught"? I am trying to raise my kids on different "inspiration", sorry.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037373fecad043116000005JoshKBFri, 24 Aug 2012 04:11:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037373fecad043116000005
Everybody (at least everybody defending L.A.) seems to forget that 6 doping tests samples from 1999 had been re-tested in 2005 and showed the presence (in all of them) of EPO. Of course, Armstrong never addressed that question in any of his numerous statements.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50372abfeab8eae476000044straight shoooterFri, 24 Aug 2012 03:18:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50372abfeab8eae476000044
Because that would be racist!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037252269beddc33b000001Sports DocFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:54:26 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037252269beddc33b000001
Wake up America, our SH#T smells just as bad as everybody else. There is just to much money involved. You can start at professional bodybuilding, WWE wrestling, all pro sports including golf TW. Too bad everybody forgot Justin Gatlin's PED scandal as he took Bronze in the 100 meter and Gold at the relay in London 2012. American pro sports is all image and money, PED is too tempting.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037225b69bedd522c000015sljFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:42:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037225b69bedd522c000015
only 2 of the Tours should be eligible for being taken assuming you great them any authority at all. The organizations own statue of limitations at the time he raced the first 5 tours would prevent them from taking the first 5. No organization should be able to adjust a statue of limitations after the fact. In the US. constitution we have a concept known as ex post facto...it should at the very least apply to his first 5. I would agree with Lance though that they should be able to do jack to him for anything. I wouldn't recognize their verdict and If I was the organizers of the Tour I wouldn't let them change the outcome. No way no how. If I was the president I would pardon him and withdraw support for the organization.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037213169bedd962c000011zuckeredagainFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:37:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037213169bedd962c000011
Another Usain Bolt-legend-my arse-type puts his tale btwn the legs. LA is a millionaire and no amount of money (if one can afford it that is, which is dfntly Lance's case) is more import than keeping his reputation/integrity intact. To be stripped of 7 TDF tittles and and loose your place in history when you know you are clean, and say I'm just tired of fighting...well, sorry mate but that's just not gonna cut it. LA is known for not taking BS from anybody. Why isn't he telling the USDA: prove it or go f...yourselves. The way he has chosen to exit the doping allegations is imho n admission of guilt and nothing more. Yes, he was tested many times, but so was Marion Jones. why do I keep getting f zuckered again and again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50372129eab8ea3b6600000dcmonsterFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:37:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50372129eab8ea3b6600000d
Yeah but Lance was tested as many as three times a day during races; before the race, after the race and after dinner that evening. I can't think of any other racer that was tested as frequently. It's understandable that he's fed up with the BS, especially since the USADA has no authority over any of the substantial cycling tours.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371f8deab8ea2366000008singapuraFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:30:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371f8deab8ea2366000008
So are we finally getting rid of those stupid Live Strong bracelets?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371cbb6bb3f7f41c00001fwesterneducheater (formerly chinese)Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:18:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371cbb6bb3f7f41c00001f
No! my hero Lance Armstrong - I always knew he was innocent because of the look on his face. That is the face of a Champion. You can't take that away. New 2013 dictionaries will list under "chinese": synonym for "cheat", or "cheater", and vice versa. Now none of the young kids know what you're talking about when you say "(I'm hungry) how about some Chinese?"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371acd6bb3f7fc1c000029Guilty As ChargedFri, 24 Aug 2012 02:10:21 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371acd6bb3f7fc1c000029
I had a friend who is heavily into cycling. He said lance is a guilty as sin and a real dope.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037159a6bb3f7e11c000008KeithPFri, 24 Aug 2012 01:48:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037159a6bb3f7e11c000008
I'm surprised how many people think he's guilty. At the finish line of every race the cyclists are taken into a tent and blood samples are taken. Lance was tested at least 140 times for his 7 Tour de France victories. How many times was he caught for doping? None.
I guess he was so good he must have cheated.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503713a56bb3f7dd12000040HondoFri, 24 Aug 2012 01:39:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503713a56bb3f7dd12000040
The United States Post Office sponsored Lance Armstrong. I want my money back Lance - and I mean now.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371049eab8eab447000021yibberatFri, 24 Aug 2012 01:25:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50371049eab8eab447000021
Of course they blew it. USADA has no jurisdiction over cycling and they certainly don't run the Tour de France. That was actually the legal basis for Armstrong contesting their jurisdiction. They can certainly prevent him from competing in the Olympics (a monopoly they have been granted by Congress) and probably some sports. But any notion that a US semi-governmental agency has jurisdiction over the entire world is just an example of bureaucratic arrogance.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370f72eab8eaad40000009Blockhead - Fix Your Friggin Web Site - When You Post it Locks UP???Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:21:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370f72eab8eaad40000009
Add a comment...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370ca6eab8ea853e00000asmenFri, 24 Aug 2012 01:09:58 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370ca6eab8ea853e00000a
None of you know cycling the way it was..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370adfeab8ea753b000014VenomFri, 24 Aug 2012 01:02:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370adfeab8ea753b000014
I second that. The man will always have my respect and support. They have been after him forever with never any evidence. This is BS.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370928eab8ea3d3e00000dpeople discussing things they don't knowFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:55:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/50370928eab8ea3d3e00000d
It is funny and scary to watch how vehemently people discuss any issue, form opinion and conclusions - without knowing the exact facts.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037050becad04fd3900001cMark MurphyFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:37:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037050becad04fd3900001c
OK. Stop the presses (which are probably running now for the morning papers). Looks like AP may have blown the "Armstrong is Banned and Stripped" headline <a href="http://t.co/EgMxDsRp" target="_blank">http://t.co/EgMxDsRp</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503701e069bedd956b000005dwightgoodensboytoyFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:24:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503701e069bedd956b000005
Obviously you have never tried to hit a 90 mph fastball. It is the hardest thing to do in sport.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037012869beddbc6c000001yibberatFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:20:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5037012869beddbc6c000001
The whole point of TESTING for drugs is because it's a bit more reliable than written statements from people who don't necessarily know a damn thing but who may well have an agenda. USADA and WADA are not accusing Lance of anything based on test results. Hell they are not even working with the governing federation of cycling on this. They are simply recycling accusations. Apparently that impresses you.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503701156bb3f7b276000001JaydeeFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:20:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/503701156bb3f7b276000001
This is the USADA's version of "You didnt build that".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ffe0eab8ea0324000019lawrence-lugarFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:15:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ffe0eab8ea0324000019
7 appears to be the magic number for the greats. Armstrong's 7 titles. and F1 racecar driver Michael Shumacher's 7 World Championship titles.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ff9969bedd8e5e000035SpFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:14:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ff9969bedd8e5e000035
A pattern is emerging. Whenever the White is wrong, it has to somehow drag the Chinese along. What the Fcuk does this have to do with anything at all with the Chinese? It is all about one White man who cheated the world. Don't deflect the full attention. In case you dont understand the story, repeat after me. It is about One White man who cheated the world. And there is No Chinese in the story. I guess most people still don't get it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036feffecad04cb2d00000cMark MurphyFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:11:43 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036feffecad04cb2d00000c
AP actually had a global exclusive on this story, as it seems USADA will make the formal bans tomorrow. Here is a digest so far. It's free to read online, but the evidence against Lance is staggering. He is a wealthy man. He could choose to fight. He chose not to. The USADA says it has failed tests but is presumably withholding the data for what would have been a formal arbitration or legal challenge. Lance sued in federal court, and the judge wasn't impressed. The sledgehammer seems to be USADA has the affidavits or witness statements from his buddies who have confessed doping and are willing to swear they saw Lance do it. They may have already given sealed testimony in the federal probe. I don't think Lance is willing to lie in an official venue.
It's one thing to lose your medals, but if you get ten people willing to swear you're a liar (whether you are or not), you're facing way more than lost pride. Other athletes have been criminally prosecuted for alleged (or actual, who really knows) false doping testimony. Expect Congressional hearings.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fe7eecad04b233000003QuestionFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:09:34 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fe7eecad04b233000003
If they have been spreading false statements about his integrity and he has been economically damaged, he could sue...but the statements must be false.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fd4c6bb3f76b6e000007neoFightFri, 24 Aug 2012 00:04:28 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fd4c6bb3f76b6e000007
He's been done for quite a while now... this is about saving face and the millions of dollars it would take to fight off the USADA.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fb09ecad04c62d000001PissclamsThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:54:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fb09ecad04c62d000001
I don't know what the others were offered but I know what they were denied - the right to ride in the London Olympics.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036faaeecad048a24000022singapuraThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:53:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036faaeecad048a24000022
Buntsy, stop trying to avoid your ban, your mom is calling you for dinner.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fa7269bedd9f51000021singapuraThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:52:18 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036fa7269bedd9f51000021
I knew there would be a moron that would whine about Armstrong being unfairly treated and then pointing at the Chinese swimmer. Now who'se going to look into Bolt's "achievements"?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f8d0ecad04a724000010YellowHatThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:45:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f8d0ecad04a724000010
In the USA, innocent until proven guilty. USADA has tried before to prove and failed. At the end of the day, Lance crossed the finish line against all the other "dopers". If EVERYONE was doing it, then the playing field was level an he STILL kicked their butts. USADA has no proof short of a group of guys willing to testify against Lance. Wonder what they were offered in return for their truthful accounts.
LiveStrong, Lance!!!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f5bd69beddbe46000011AndreasThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:32:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f5bd69beddbe46000011
Floyd was guilty and admitted to being guilty after lying for years. Can't compare the two. Lemond competed in an era where testing was done less often and not developed enough to catch most.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f52b6bb3f74e5a00001dAndreasThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:29:47 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f52b6bb3f74e5a00001d
Dear Lance Armstrong,
You have always been a hero to me and this injustice will not change that. You submitted to all tests asked of you and you passed them all. You deserved better than this and for that I am truly sorry. I feel that hardened criminals are afforded a higher degree of due process than you were afforded. When an athlete retires all investigation into his sporting life should come to an immediate end so that resources and energy can be devoted to those currently competing and, in the case of cycling, being continually tested.
Please enjoy your life and your success and know that you are an inspiration to millions and always will be.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f4b46bb3f7685a000010thebigciceroThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:27:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f4b46bb3f7685a000010
Exactly.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f47c69bedddf4500000eBeltway GregThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:26:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f47c69bedddf4500000e
Don't agree with the decision? I certainly don't. Anyway, give the USADA a call at 1-719-785-2000 from 8-5 Mountain TIme. Ask for Travis.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f30169beddbd46000001James Altucher Is The ManThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:20:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f30169beddbd46000001
France just wants to take away all the titles that the Americans won at their event. They took away Floyd Landis title first, now Armstrong's. They allow Greg LeMond his American titles since he is actually French blood.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f25aecad04521b000013AndreasThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:17:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f25aecad04521b000013
It amazes me that someone who sounds like a baseball fan calls cycling "sort of a joke" when baseball can hardly be called a sport and it really a joke. A bunch of clowns in pajamas who stand around and occasionally do something athletic for very short periods of time. That in my humble opinion - is a joke.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f1c269bedd7246000001Mark MurphyThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:15:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f1c269bedd7246000001
"USADA also said it had TEN former Lance Armstrong teammates ready to testify against him." <a href="http://t.co/c7G33d82" target="_blank">http://t.co/c7G33d82</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f17969bedd0746000008cmonsterThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:14:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f17969bedd0746000008
If he's actually guilty, how can he be allowed to quit without any definitive charges? But that would mean that they would have to produce actual proof.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f0a169bedd2c3900003ayibberatThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:10:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f0a169bedd2c3900003a
He has denied the allegations outright dozens of times over the last decade - and passed all the different drug tests. What on earth would be the freaking point of denying the charges again? He doesn't give a damn about this organization or about the cycling community anymore. He has a life to live and USADA is irrelevant to it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f06fecad04141100002fblutownThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:09:35 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f06fecad04141100002f
Great, now all of the runners up who likely doped will get the titles. Where's the victory in that???http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f012eab8ea907e000014blutownThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:08:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f012eab8ea907e000014
I'm reminded of the Salem Witch Hunt.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f009ecad041411000029JimboneThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:07:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036f009ecad041411000029
He passed every test given to him during the competitions, the same tests given to the other riders. Everyone was on a level playing field and competing in the same environment.
He's not fighting anymore because they want HIM to prove he didn't dope... instead of they having to prove he did. It's a losing proposition for him and why waste the money?
What a joke.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef9c6bb3f7d64f000013BigfootThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:06:04 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef9c6bb3f7d64f000013
What a mess. LA is one of the greatest talents, yet as every cyclist knows, doping permeates the sport and the only way to win is cheat the tests.
Vai Lance!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef7aeab8ead67e000011blutownThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:05:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef7aeab8ead67e000011
No one come out of this story smelling like roses. If one were going to clean up sports, this certainly is an illustration of how NOT to do it. None of this would stand up in civil court.
Despite what Lance did or didn't do, I am embarrassed for USADA. If this is a taxpayer supported organization, I want my money back.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef20ecad040511000025Venom Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:04:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ef20ecad040511000025
Wow, I can't believe this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ee4769bedd0e3900000aOh WellThu, 23 Aug 2012 23:00:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ee4769bedd0e3900000a
Oh yeah? Lance Armstrong is also super wealthy, with all his wins, that's why he can get his idiotic lawyer to write a stupid letter like that. Notice he never denies the allegations outright. Man, if you read other news, he withdrew his blood stored for competitions when USADA declared to investigate him.. Why? That's a guilty sign.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ec326bb3f7e04f000002Mark MurphyThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:51:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ec326bb3f7e04f000002
Report just in from AP: Lance WILL BE banned and stripped of titles, USADA says.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036eab269beddb52c000011Gary AndersonThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:45:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036eab269beddb52c000011
Bonds has one conviction. If you were fair, Roger Clemens was acquitted even though he got stronger in his 40's. Armstrong probably cheated in a sport that is sort of a joke.
Look at baseball though, as Derek Jeter, a really good player, may get Pete Rose's record, and in this age there will be doubt.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ea95ecad043f0700000cyibberatThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:44:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ea95ecad043f0700000c
Good luck to you Lance. A true inspiration. Even if the cycling world could never understand (and never really wanted to try) that his tolerance for pain and his drive were not created by drugs. They were created by surviving something far tougher than some piddly little cycling racehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ea59eab8ea717300000bbling singhThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:43:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036ea59eab8ea717300000b
ALL I AM TELLING YOU IS THE SPORTS WORLD IS COKED UP ON MEDS AND PE.
THERE ARE NO GANDHIS
STAY THE FRACK AWAY FROM MY AMERICAN CHAMPIONS.
WE MUST BACK UP OUR CHAMPS ATLEAST.
I DIN'T LIKE THE WAY THEY TREATED LOLO EITHER.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e982ecad04300700000bBuster BunnsThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:40:02 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e982ecad04300700000b
Machiavelli once opined: "There is nothing so dangerous as to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong."Armstong has been harasses and victimized because the French could not accept his amazing run of victories. And the USADA are backing the French in this sorry episode. Shame!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e96beab8ea7b7300001dbling singhThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:39:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e96beab8ea7b7300001d
I want my tax dollars back....never seen a bunch of sore sick jealous eddies more intent in dragging American Champions in mud, than in that self anointed church of anti doping.Every Chinese Athlete passes the doping test. You know why?, that is because they make the test kits and equipment and have equilibrum stabilizers which they inject into their athletes to nullify any traces and go stealth.
In 3rd world, if you Bribe enough, you can accuse anyone and destroy their careers.
Looks like we are racing to the bottom of the pit.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e945eab8ea7f73000010ArnoldThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:39:01 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e945eab8ea7f73000010
He passed all drug test at the time of the competition...whats going on here?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e938eab8ea847300002b1jmk1Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:48 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e938eab8ea847300002b
I agree.................out government and law enforcement bust low level petty crimes and let thieves steal billions and buy islands.
At least they caught two black kids for stealing gum from my local Walmart..........our world is such a safer place now and we can all sleep better tonight.
Not being racist....just trying to prove a point.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e920ecad043c07000006JohnstoneThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e920ecad043c07000006
THE BEST PART? In his long, impassioned statement, he never denies the charges outright.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e911eab8ea8173000008JessieThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:38:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e911eab8ea8173000008
Here is Twitter reaction <a href="http://pulsefeedz.com/lance-armstrong-will-end-his-fight-against-doping-charges-lose-tour-de-france-titles/" target="_blank">http://pulsefeedz.com/lance-armstrong-will-end-his-fight-against-doping-charges-lose-tour-de-france-titles/</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8fdeab8ea7673000008Oliver LongwellThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:37:49 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8fdeab8ea7673000008
Tragic, but a witchhunt nonethelesshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8cbecad04a409000004realllyThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:36:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8cbecad04a409000004
...or was he story destroyed by dishonesty and cheating?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8a1eab8ea60730000071jmk1Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:36:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8a1eab8ea6073000007
Oh well..........they took is title but he's still a millionare...................no skin off his teeth.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8a069bedd902c000002DMEThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:36:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8a069bedd902c000002
If only our government could persevere tracking down financial crimes; eg Mozillo, Jamie Diamon, Lloyd Blankfein, Henry Paulson. Maybe they could go after Blodgett again.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8656bb3f76c4600000bWhat about Barry?Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:35:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e8656bb3f76c4600000b
One of sports worst keep secrets is the doping of Barry Bonds. Why hasn't he been held accountable?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e76e69bedd8c2c000003KCVThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:31:10 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e76e69bedd8c2c000003
This is the new world where everyone is guilty and you better not offend anyone or you will be accused and convicted. What bull***t!!! Whatever testing the sports organizations want to do need to be done prior to the competition or upon a protest from a competitor that same day. Here we are years later and they want to strip his wins and say he cheated is crap.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e6d769bedd9a2c000001JimboneThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:28:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e6d769bedd9a2c000001
And another great inspirational story has been destroyed by jealousy and vindictiveness.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e68feab8ea8573000001DepressionThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:27:27 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e68feab8ea8573000001
too bad for the cyling world all they can claw back are his Tour de France "titles ....
i'm betting they can't touch all the money he's made .... awsome ! LIVE STRONG LIVE BANKER !!!
like a pimp ~ !http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e63469bedd1723000008bling singhThu, 23 Aug 2012 22:25:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5036e63469bedd1723000008
Shame on USADA and Media for dragging a National Icon through the mud. Just shameless act of destroying Champions.....Carl Lewis, Mike Tyson, Marion Jones and now Armstrong.
Are you telling me the Red Chinese 16 year old girl can swim like a Shark eating just Kung Pao Chickeen?
I am selling all my Schwinn's and give it away for Charity
perhaps I will ride a Bull.