On August 1, 2009just seven months into President Barack Obamas first termformer Alaska Governor Sarah Palin predicted Obama would attempt to leverage health care to take away the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

In a speech to National Rifle Association members in Anchorage, Alaska, Palin said Americans should be wary of this tie-in because Obama would attempt to take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan:

And by the way, [with] health care being so big in D.C. right now, be wary when some kind of tie-in occurs. Because it will crop up: a tie-in with guns in an attempt to take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan. You know that this is comingthat the two issues will somehow crop up and theyll be tied together. So we have to be very wary of that.

On Wednesdaymore than three years after Palins warningObama did exactly what the former governor forecasted.

During a press conference wherein he issued 23 executive actions regarding guns and unveiled his gun control proposals, including a ban on so-called assault weapons, Obama said doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home.

To make it easier for doctors to do so, Obama also issued executive actions that would clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes. The White House also released a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

In Obamas gun control plan, which the White House released on Wednesday, there is a section titled Preserve The Rights of Mental Health Care Providers To Protect Their Patients and Communities From Gun Violence.

It reads, we should never ask doctors and other health care providers to turn a blind eye to the risks posed by guns in the wrong hands, and proposes to:

 Clarify that no federal law prevents health care providers from warning law enforcement authorities about threats of violence: Doctors and other mental health professionals play an important role in protecting the safety of their patients and the broader community by reporting direct and credible threats of violence to the authorities. But there is public confusion about whether federal law prohibits such reports about threats of violence. The Department of Healthand Human Services is issuing a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibitsthese reports in any way.

 Protect the rights of health care providers to talk to their patients about gun safety: Doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home. Some have incorrectly claimed that language in the Affordable Care Act prohibits doctors from asking their patients about guns and gun safety. Medical groups also continue to fight against state laws attempting to ban doctors from asking these questions. The Administration will issue guidance clarifying that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit or otherwise regulate communication between doctors and patients, including about firearms.

The NRA, which filed a friend-of-the-court brief, said the Florida law exhorts doctors to stick to practicing medicine rather than pushing their own political agendas, and it protects patients from doctors who refuse to do so.

More than three years ago in her speech (blogger KentonAK first revealed the existence of the footage), Palin notedto the Alaska NRA membersshe was the only person on either ticket during the 2008 election who was a lifetime member of the NRA.

An American treasure. That we as a citizenry may never see her as President, nor as a Nation benefit from the massive and relentless conservative reforms she would establish, is a tragedy beyond words and tears.

Not really surprising. When I go in for my annual physical here in Vermont, I get a list of questions to answer. My doctor is very good, and not a nutcase, but I believe the questionaire was developed by the Vermont medical association, or whatever it’s called.

It asks if you drink or smoke. For some years now it asks if you own a gun. recently it asks if you have throw rugs in the house, or furniture in your path as you go through a room. And of course it asks a number of obvious health and medical questions.

I would suggest that everybody just check NO on the gun, since all this stuff now goes into computers and is passed on to the government. Even if you’re a registered gun owner, this may make the information more easily available; and I don’t think there is any legal penalty for refusing to ‘fess up.

I don’t like to lie, but saying “N/A” or “none of your business” calls attention to yourself, and refusing the truth to a tyrannical government is not really morally culpable, I don’t think.

It is indeed a tragedy. I’m all but convinced that the country has become too deeply corrupt and too degenerate to ever accept the kind of pro-Constitution reformist leadership Palin would bring. America is decaying, economically, morally and culturally... rapidly devolving beyond the means of salvage.

But what the heck, I’d still solidly and enthusiastically support Palin if she ran in 2016, even if as a fruitless, last gasp of harkening back to the things that once made the country so great.

Kind of reminds me of when Dan Quayle rightly pointed out the harmful decay of family life portrayed by Murphy Brown and Hollywood Exactly right, but the media narrative was so negative against him that no one acknowledged it til years later. All mainstream media could do was try to figure out how to make it a joke.

“I dont like to lie, but saying N/A or none of your business calls attention to yourself, and refusing the truth to a tyrannical government is not really morally culpable, I dont think.”

A Freeper on a previous thread made a comment on how to respond to doctors asking about having guns in the home to which I fully agree.

“Doctor, I do not discuss my personal or family security measures with anyone other than family members.”

If a doctor presses me, then I will assert my rights under the Fourth Amendment: “The right of people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The doctor will have to show me a Law Enforcement Officer’s Badge and a Warrant for his “unreasonable search.”

I have no problem lying. I’ve never been asked about firearms but I’ll answer the same as I do about smoking or drinking. NO! Even tho I have an occasional cigar and wine or beer almost daily. I happen to believe beer and wine are quite healthy for a person but moron doctors don’t see it that way.

In Minnesota I had resorted to outright lying.
“Are there any guns in your home?”
“No! Guns are bad.”
Living up there was like living in a place that started to resemble someplace in Eastern Europe a few decades ago. Expected behavior was acting like a moonbat, hating Bush, supporting JF Kerry, and worshipping Obama. And that was the act to pass through the doctor’s office.
The good thing is I am now back in Texas. No doctor here has asked me any of those inane questions. I even had a Houston cop recommend an indoor range.

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posted on 01/19/2013 9:08:41 PM PST
by Fred Hayek
(The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)

You know, I’m in MN, and I’m starting to see this, too. Suddenly, the questionnaire’s seem very strange. I told a receptionist Friday that I had left some questions unanswered because it seemed to me that they were not pertinent to developing a picture of my health. She said, “That’s OK. We’re just trying to get to know you better.” It seemed ominous. Later, a nurse asked me some questions, too. I really felt like I was being spied on, like I was going to be reported to attackwatch.com. It was all freaky. Thanks for your post.

Just think - if McCain doesn't select her, she would have been allowed to build up a solid conservative record, particularly on energy issues, without being molested by relented liberal attacks. She also, presumably, would have been much better prepped to run and had her own (not McCain's traiterous crew) surrounding her.

Imagine the rock star reception from 2008 combined with 6 years of being a governor with a solidly conservative record. We'd be talking about President Palin at this point.

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posted on 01/19/2013 11:30:28 PM PST
by GreatOne
(You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)

Ya know, I have seen and answered that question for years...but until now it didn’t disturb me. What a weird world we live in where a question that was intended to provide succor in times of extreme illness now becomes a question that potentially means persecution.

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posted on 01/20/2013 5:32:31 AM PST
by pepperdog
( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)

Sarah Palin has more leadership and courage than Joan of Arc, Thatcher or the Elizabethan queen. But Sarahs beauty is many times greater than of those women and her understanding of freedom and conservatism makes her far above these women of history

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posted on 01/20/2013 6:21:06 AM PST
by KC_Lion
(Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)

If he didn’t pick Sarah, could you imagine the impacts of 2010 and 2012 without her influences? She’d be up in Alaska, out of site, out of mind, and facing all sorts of barriers. She’s exposed the crime lords of DC (MSM, GOPe) for the true frauds they surely are.

So, so wrong ... as long as people are humans, it's salvageable. All of that decay -- economic, cultural, moral -- boatloads of of it is the direct result of government interference from all directions, be it a well-organized screaming liberal education system, or labor, health and safety, tax, enrivonmental, and who knows how many other niggling regulations and laws that stifle business growth and employment. Heck, a teenaged kid doesn't even have the right to tell the government to get lost, that he's perfectly okay with apprenticing at the garage down the street for whatever he damned well will accept, and if it's below "minimum wage," whose business is that? See, kids don't have that freedom now. Government has made a horrific impact on morality and culture with "minimum wage" laws alone.

There's fabulous potential for salvage. The first step is to reclaim local territory over the government in terms of personal rights.

These are approaching risky times. Risk is the price you pay for opportunity.

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