your right Tom, lots of texas plates around me now. big white trucks driving 70 mph everywhere. I see Oklahoma plates also. we're seriously considering selling before the drilling gets too close, but it may be too late. I'm very scared of property values dropping and being stuck here forever or having to just dump the place for a bargain price and count our losses just to get away from it all.

Also, if you subtract the state government jobs from that total, how many "regular" citizens are left and how much lower is the average salary. I bet if you remove the huge kickbacks Corbet is (allegedly) getting the average is significantly lower.

The only PA resident jobs I hear about around here are truck drivers and unskilled labor. Those TX and OK plates belong to the skilled employees.

Posted on: 2011/7/5 7:55

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Wages (2010 Q1 to 2010 Q4): • The average wage across all industries was $45,747 • The average wage in the core industries was $73,150, which was about $27,400 greater than the average for all industries • The average wage in the ancillary industries was $61,871, which was more than $16,100 greater than the average for all industries

Unemployment Rate: • Areas with significant Marcellus Shale drilling activity have seen notable decreases in unemployment rates • From March 2009 to March 2011, the overall unemployment rate for counties with: ? 10 or more wells drilled in 2010 dropped from 7.7 to 7.1 (-0.6 percentage points) ? 1 to 9 wells drilled in 2010 increased slightly from 7.1 to 7.2 (+0.1 percentage point) ? no wells drilled in 2010 remained the same at 7.6

New Hires (2009 Q4 to 2011 Q1):• 72,000 new hires were reported within the Marcellus Shale core and ancillary industries (the increase from the 48,000 new hires reported in the last edition of the Marcellus Shale Fast Facts is entirely due to the addition of nine industries in the ancillary group and the inclusion of government employment)

I agree 100% that the gas/energy indusrty is not good for fishing. However; to beleive that nothing good comes from it is misguided as far as most PA residents are concerned.

They are building a $450 million dollar gas pipe plant along the Ohio river currently.

Just saw this in the paper this morning:

The state Department of Environmental Protection has approved a Washington County company's air-quality permit to build a $150 million natural gas-fired electric power plant at a giant coal refuse pile in Robinson.

It is the same site where the company, Robinson Power Co. LLC, wants to revive plans for a controversial coal-burning plant to generate electricity.

The gas-fired turbine and a heat recovery steam generator would create a combined total of 147.8 megawatts of power. Construction of the natural gas-fired plant could begin by the end of 2011 and be completed within two years.

Natural gas from Marcellus shale reserves that is piped near the 400-acre coal refuse pile would be used to fuel the generating plant.

I reviewed KRC's analysis. They over estimate the churn by several hundred percent. Using their approach the MS industry would have had a large number of employment five years ago. Common sense says that there has been a large pickup in the past two years. Look at the increased truck traffic, the increased road work and pad construction, and other impacts. If it wasn't picking up you would not have all the people complaining.

It was from a Pennsylvania Department of Labor report in May, as reported in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette or maybe the Tribune and other newspapers I believe. I actually saw it in a copy of the latest Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs publication, they mentioned the it originally appeared in the other papers.

Jobs are jobs my friend and residents are residents. I have no idea what you mean by "regular" citizens?

franklin wrote:Mods may want to move this to Conservation section at some point so it is grouped with related threads.

Planning on it. I move several threads every day. These are usually stream threads posted in the General Forum which are moved over to Stream Locations. However, while the thread is still "hot" I'd prefer to leave it where it is. After it drops down a ways and hasn't been refreshed, I'll move it to a more precise forum.Dave W

I can't believe one would complain about windmills versus well pads and all the environmental impacts of same.

FWIW, I do like wind.

But, you can't compare the impact of 1 windmill to 1 gas well. If you're comparing impacts, the amount of energy produced has to be even. I'll have to do the math sometime, but as a first approximation its several dozen windmills vs. 1 gas well.

And people think im to strong,Already have a pipe line and getting wells on both side of my land.You people cant even understand,The basic deal(TAKE THE MONEY OR DEAL WITH ALL THE KRAP FOR NOTHING) Melvin p wyoming county Current lease offering 4000.00 an acre and 15-20%.And if you already sighed to BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.WTF