R.K.

My Fellow Vets

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

Please help me get some booze or better yet some drugs. Thank you.

R.K.

Disabled veterans are being compensated and treated by the VA so they are getting everything they deserve. Anything more would simply be another welfare handout and there are already more than enough of those around.

Get over it and move on. You already suck enough from the taxpayers.

My Fellow Vets

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

Please help me get some booze or better yet some drugs. Thank you.

Whine! Whine! Whine!

My Fellow Vets

Come on now and help a brother out. This is important stuff for all us drunk vets. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

My Fellow Vets

Hey, where's all my veteran buddies? Why aren't all of you guys in here helping?

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

Please help me get some booze or better yet some drugs. Thank you.

MarkG

Very SAD. This is not a hand out, this is not welfare. As a service connected disable veteran who was hurt on active duty and had no choice but leave active duty due to the injury, it is reasonable. Those who say no, did you serve? Do you have a disability that causes pain every day, every minute? I was reated at 10% (still am) and just found out that it should have been rated even then following the correct standards at 60 to 80 percent. Have any of you read the findings that over 23% of all cases are significantly rated below the standards? The government does everything it can to belittle veteran's and keep them from receiving what they deserve. Shame of you.

I hope you realize that the Commissary and Exchanges are just stores on base and for the most part there is a small benefit to shopping there.

For someone who works as much as I am able, it is very hard to make ends meet when I have to be off 3 to 4 days a month due to being at the doctor.

WilsonC

I would disagree with the above comments. First, what about the ones that are disabled that served in Iraq and Afghanistan who if it hadn't been for the war would see be sering there country today... So let's rid them of this benefit??? I think it's sad that anyone of you that have served think so little of there veterans.

My Fellow Vets

Hey, where's all my veteran buddies? Why aren't all of you guys in here helping?

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

****

What a bunch of idiots. No clue what it is like to be injured in combat, and from that no longer be able to serve on active duty.

I guess that is why some of us serve, bleed, and even die. So that these morons can post stuff like this.

Suck your taxes, welfare, gimme??? What a bunch of morons. The reason you are able to work, and pay taxes is cuz WE keep you safe so you can have your little computer to type this garbage. Probably some snot nosed little punk sitting in his room jerking off in his mommy's bra, writing things just to cause problems. Quit eating your boogers and grow up.

peegysue63

I thought in the military we all were taught to stick together and to look out after each other. I can't believe some of these comments. Veterans are not looking for WELFARE. We sometime cannot get medicines that we need from the VA and would like to buy them at a reasonable price. That one reason. I hope none of ya'll have to go through 15 and 1/2 years of service in the Army and find out you cannot retire and only get 30% disability and have to live with pain every day of your life and still work another job. Pain that is so unbearble that you want to kill yourself sometime. Give a Veteran a little help, is it going to hurt you. Or make you feel like you helped out alittle.

AndyJohnson

Why not? each OF us are citizens and have different needs. I vote my pocketbook.

"Veterans are not looking for WELFARE."

When you ask Congress for benefits you didn't earn, it's called welfare. This bill is welfare.

"We sometime cannot get medicines that we need from the VA and would like to buy them at a reasonable price"

OK, it appears you are either stupid or haven't a clue about the military. You see you cannot buy medicine in the Commissary or exchange.

"I hope none of ya'll have to go through 15 and 1/2 years of service in the Army and find out you cannot retire and only get 30% disability"

OK, it appears you are either stupid or haven't a clue about the military. You see if you really were retired with 30%, you would be a medical retiree and entitled to the same privleges any other retiree is entitled even though a medical retiree isn't a real retiree.

AndyJohnson

Don't quit your day job. You're 30% disabled and should be working. I work with veteranc that are totally disabled. One fellow is in a wheel chair and has an attendant to drive him around. 30% ain't $h!t

*******

Apparently some cannot read. They indicated that they were 30% disabled and discharged, that is entirely different than medically retired. Some of us were discharged under disability situations and were not given the chance to reach retirement. You have either never served or served so long ago that you don't have a clue as to what the current military is like. If you want to end welfare then attack that and not the things that can help veterans and their families. All of us served to keep YOU free, whether we retired or were injured and discharged. You have the freedom to run your mouth, because I served.

Robert Miller

If you look at each of the past bills that were introduced regarding this subject, you will see the same a**holes R.K., AndyJohnson, ***, etc. posting the same exact crap over and over. They have nothing better to do and nothing meaningful to say. Ignore their antagonistic garbage that they continue to post. They are simply a bunch of losers who probably never served anyway or were kicked out because they weren't good enough and now hold a grudge.

@Robert Miller

*******

Just because a veteran is no longer a member of the armed forces does not mean they are not welcome on post or that they are asking for a "gimme" benefit. That may be your opinion and you are entitled to have it. In reality if this bill were to pass it would generate revenue for the commissaries and not cause a drain on the taxpayer. I don't see how that conclusion can even be reached. If I am missing something please clarify. I personally earned every benefit I have, I don't abuse the system, not all of us are whining welfare recipients. I am a 30% disabled veteran who was medically discharged (not retired), I work full time, go to school full time, and am a parent and spouse.

As far as "@Robert Miller", your comments are not appreciated nor welcome. A person cannot express their perspective on an open forum without being told vulgar things? Maybe you need to heed your own advice.

*******

How is it fair that DOD civilians on some bases are entitled to shop at commissaries/BX and disabled veterans are not? If you don't want to allow veterans a small benefit then you must also take that privelege away from the DOD civilians, right?

I guess I just don't understand why this has such opposition? Why do so many have such a negative opinion on it? On veteran's day we do not just honor our retired military do we?

*******

DoD Civilians on Temporary Duty status when occupying Government quarters in the U.S. are allowed to shop at the commissary/PX. They are also allowed to shop there when stationed overseas, which includes Hawaii the last time I was there a few years ago. I firsthand witnessed DOD civilians shopping there.

I have to at least commend you for not being a hypocrite and saying some veterans deserve it and not others. I don't agree however.

Please, explain to me how this would hurt the current system? That is what everyone here is complaining about, how it's a handout/welfare/gimme.

If it was currently for active duty only then the argument would be far different. That however is not the case. So how will it cause a load on taxpayers to allow disabled veterans the option to use the facilities? Again I ask, why such vehement opposition?

And frankly, most disabled veterans are in areas where a Commissary/PX are not easily accessed in any case.

Robert Miller

BX/NEX/AAFES employess are allowed to shop in those stores yet they are civilians. Quit hating on disabled vets. If you were in fact in the military, you are proving yourself a disgrace to whatever service you served in. Those that served before you fought for this country which enabled you to live here and eventually serve and just because they were injured which prevented them from retiring doesn't mean that they should not be afforded the same rights as those that were fortunate enough not to suffer an injury during their service. BTW, if these facilities were available to only active duty most of them would go out of business. The Commissary wouldn't exist without retirees, period.

@Robert Miller

You better get your reading glasses and start checking the regs. Those folks ARE NOT authorized just because they are employees.

And as far as I'm concerned all you raggedy old farts can stay out of the commissary. Nothing worse than trying to get some shopping done and all of you are standing in the middle of the aisle [vulgarity] trying to figure out if it's "cheaper at Wal-Mart." Just take your dumba$$ to Wal-mart and stay out of the way.

The commissaries will do quite nicely without all you old f**ks getting in the way.

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***

DOD civilians overseas are ONLY allowed to shop if the SOFA allows it. And the statement actually says that in the U.S. those civilians must be TDY and staying in government quarters to use the stores. There is no blanket authority for civilians to shop in any of the stores.

*******

As I indicated the personnel on TDY or Temporary duty status are given the privelege to shop at the facilities. TDY can sometimes be a year long. I did not indicate that there was just blanket authority given, but it is given in certain instances.

@RobertMiller, I for one am not a "raggedy old fart" that stands in the aisle and compares prices. I am a young soldier who was injured doing my duty for our country. You are arguing a moot point since this legislation would not change the existing system. So if I understand what you are saying your argument for not passing this bill, and helping some of your fellow soldiers who are disabled, is because you don't want it to be too crowded? That is a pretty sorry argument in my opinon.

If you are an active duty military member you should be ashamed of yourself. To hold yourself in the highest regard and to dismiss what others before you have given is disgraceful. Obviously you don't truly believe in no soldier left behind.

R.K.

*******

That's the thing though, it is not just a military benefit because it is extended to retired military as well. So again, not a valid reason. Why is it okay to give it to a retired military member but not a disabled military member who was discharged due to an injury and not able to complete a full 20?

I might agree with you about not giving this benefit if the current system just allowed active duty military. It however does not, it is hypocritical to say that some military members deserve it and not others.

To all who are just posting the same thing over and over, we saw it the first five times and if you don't have anything relevant to add go do something else.

*******

@*******

If you are talking about length of service retired military, perhaps you should take a look at their retirement orders. They say that the individual is still a member of the military and is placed on in-active status and their retirement pay is retainer pay.

For the other commenters who post the same thing again and again - it's a free country and the a$$hole who said "go do something else" can take his or her own advice and pack it in their rectum.

***

*******

I am the one who said to go do something else. If you have a valid point or argument then make it instead of just harping the same post over and over again. I have enough class not to resort to name calling and telling people to "pack it". Grow up.

It is a free country but you don't have to verbally attack every person who has a differing opinion than that of your own.

Veterans who fought for this country and were injured during their duty do deserve the benefit. A lot of us have life changing disablities that were no fault of our own. Why should our service and sacrifices count any less than that of a retiree?

Josh Taylor

Andy Johnson aka *** aka RK aka Ralph Komban The Communist Clown has been spreading his Nazi Communist comments on bills like this wanting the elderly, the physical, and mentally disabled to simply die and supports on detaining American citizens and make them work without pay according to S. 180, The Power Act.

Also this Communist clown is a pedophobe who wants children to die in car crashes with the Federal National Transportion Safety law abolished. He thinks the national safety belt law is unconstitutional.

If you search Andy Johnson, ***, RK, or Ralph Komban, you can find out that he never forgives non-violent ex-offenders and lets them suffer in prison under the Second Chance Act without releasing them knowingly they learned their lesson and maybe accepted Jesus as their Savior.

VOTE NO on S 180

VOTE YES on HR 1178, the Second Chance Act, and the 2011 National Transportation Safety bill.

Now Josh

you gotta get your $hit straight. Nazi AND communist? Boy haven't you been paying attention in school? Those two ideologies can't coexist. But then since you are only 12 years old it's probably too early for you to have read much about all that. I know you are confined to teh basement at your Mommy's house for the summer so maybe you can do some reading. Of course you will have to stop what you are doing with your blow-up doll for a while but it will be good for you.

I heard from the UPS guy today that Josh is going to be busy with the new vinyl girl friend that was just delivered to his basement hideout. Perhaps he won't have time for anything else.

I'm not sure what a pedophobe is Josh? Would you care to expound on that one a bit?

Since Josh has nothing to contribute to this particular discussion we will just ignore any further rants on his part.

Jay

First, you are correct. You can get a disability retirement at 30%. But, there is a caveat. When going through a MRB they only look at one disability even if you are being seen for multiple conditions. They may all add up to 90% together, but if none of them are rated over 20% you do not receive retirement. Oh, and the military chooses which condition to look at for determination. When I was booted, they made sure to look at the condition that was rated with the least significance. For reference, I was still able to max the fitness requirements (except for running, due to blowing out my knee), this included push ups on the elbow with moderate nerve damage that the military chose to rate for my board while ignoring my knees which would have rated much higher.

As far as the VA taking care of the vets, that's a joke in and of itself. They lead you around in circles for years before they finally own up.

Armyvet

There is nothing wrong with vets wanting to use the commisary. We served just as everyone else did, so whats wrong with us using the BX or commisary its not your money. so what is the hatered for we are all vets regardless who served for how long you still a vet.

Rocko

Be careful when you argue with a fool, for those watching may not be able to tell the difference. Those who spew hate are simply not worth attempting to debate with. I, as a disabled Army Vet, would love the opportunity to support my local Army post by being allowed to shop there. I would rather spend my money on post, where it benefits the Service, than off post where it benefits the conglomerates.

Rocko

Also, for those who think this is welfare obviously have never shopped at a commissary or PX before. Lol. The savings is not that great, the effort it takes to get on base when you don’t have a window sticker is time consuming to say the least and it would be much easier to head to walmart. I simply love supporting the Army I was actively part of and believe in for more than a decade. Welfare? No partner, not welfare. Welfare is a handout, we’re asking to pay for the products and services, that is the complete opposite of a handout.

AndyJohnson

When I was booted, they made sure to look at the condition that was rated with the least significance.

No!!! they don't. They look at all conditions that make you unsuitable to serve.

"the military chose to rate for my board while ignoring my knees which would have rated much higher."

They are required to look at all conditions that rendered you for additional service.

"As far as the VA taking care of the vets, that's a joke in and of itself. They lead you around in circles for years before they finally own up"

Just because you think you suffer a disabling condition caused by military service doesn't mean you get the gelt. You have to demonstrate that it was your service that caused your problem. I expect you to prove it and so does congress. They write the laws.

AndyJohnson

"Also, for those who think this is welfare obviously have never shopped at a commissary or PX before"

I think it's welfare and I'm on base daily because I earned the right to do so.

"Lol."

Laugh on fool.

"I simply love supporting the Army I was actively part of and believe in for more than a decade"

You are no longer one of us and you don't belong on base.

"Welfare? No partner, not welfare. Welfare is a handout, we’re asking to pay for the products and services"

Right, welfare is a handout and you are looking to obtain privleges reserved for the military. You didn't earn that right. You're looking for a handout. You aren't one of us and don't belong. That applies to those 100% disabled on base. They too aren't one of us.

For it

Looks like Andy Johnson is either not a Soldier, or has alot to learn about espirit de corps, brotherhood in arms and the pride that comes with both activley serv ing and having had served. Disagreeing with legislation is one thing, but to belittle and insult those for it is another. You have a long way go until you are mature enough to have an intelligent and logical debate, and it is people like yourself that have to live through tings in order to learn your lessons. That's a shame, there is much to be learned from those who have been there prior to you. Try to open your ears, take in opinions, process them taking into consideration all sides and make an intelligent decision. You will find even if you are still against it, you will at least come off as having done your homework instead of just coming off as a ranting jerk. Good luck.

Rocko

After a quick search it is painfully obvious that Andy Johnson, ***, R.K. and his other alias is simply one lonely, bored and disturbed individual with entirely to much time on his hands. He jumps around on the forums trolling and enticing arguments that have no logic to them. The only way to combat an internet forum troll is to ignore them, so let him rant folks, his best friend is his mirror and keyboard, as he is the only one who takes him seriously. Even saw one of his posts that said :

"Hey, it's Saturday. I'm looking for some entertainment and you and your putz buddies are fun to screw with.

Maybe tomorrow I'll go f**k with the vets."

I Hope he gets the help he needs.

AndyJohnson

If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. None of these folks belong on base. You aren't military, you aren't one of us and you aren't welcome. There are people that earned the right to have base privileges, you didn't and handing it to you is an insult to those that did earn the right. You chose to get out, now go live with the other civilians.

You spend a couple measly years in service and now you pretend to be the warrior. You' re not. You're just another civilian now.

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R. K.

Rockp couldn't cut it in the military. He likes to point to his disabled vet status but the reality is that he fell off the back of a truck at a ballgame and that's how he was able to screw the VA out of the free money. Now he wants to be able to associate with real soldiers by hanging around the PX.

Sorry excuse for a human being.

My Fellow Vets

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

Please help me get some booze or better yet some drugs. Thank you.

To who it may concern

I thing all you active soldiers that talk shit should have your head check for brusing. first and formost if you serve in the military you wouldn't be disrespecting your brothers retired or active. the bill if for more then what you think. It help the Vts to pay for meds at a cheaper rate. Using the Px store and any store on base is not wrong. If they didn't fight before us you wouldn't have the freedom to even speak about the freedom you have grow up Im a Vet. serve for ten years never ask for one thing from the goverment. but I still respect my elders and the vets that serve before me. don't knock the freedom you have now it didn't have to end the way it did. You need to stop trying to talk about it and do something about it before you end up it the same boat as they end up injured it could happen. just take my advice it only take a split second and your whole world could change.

My Fellow Vets

We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listeneing to me cry about how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service.

Please help me get some booze or better yet some drugs. Thank you.

Whine! Whine! Whine!

Disabled Vet

I'm a disabled vet--80%, kicked out because of military injuries that prevented me from meeting PT standard. Given VA service-connected disability immediately, but at low rate. Doctors at VA lied, and the military wanted to get me out without having to give me a medical retirement. I have had to fight every step of the way for every little benefit I get. My entire life has been wrecked as a result of my decision to serve the U.S. Please do not listen to these idiots who have something personal against veterans getting a fair deal. I signed a contract giving my life to Uncle Sam, I did my time, until a physical injury prevented me from continuing to serve. There is no welfare for veterans. Many of us cannot earn a decent living and barely get by on what we get from the VA. You sent us to war. You sent us to serve. Don't you think a life full of pain and suffering enough of a sacrifice to receive the little reward that shopping at the Exchange would bring?

WHINE!

TROLL TROLL TROLL

Please ignore the trolls who are on here writing about getting drunk at the Exchange stores. Vote YES! If you want to know how much "welfare" is really helping the vets, you should stay a few days at your local VA hospice. Typical liberal garbage coming from those who don't appreciate our veterans. Please vote YES!

My Fellow Vets

Don't listen to all these crapheads claiming to be in favor of this. They are the same ones who won't buy me a drink when I see them in the bars. We need access to the Class-VI store so we can buy our booze. Make sure you tell everyone to let us on base so we can get down to the Class-VI store and buy more booze. I need to be able to buy that cheap vodka they have there so I can keep from getting the heebie-jeebies.

It's getting harder and harder to snag a free drink at the bar because everyone is getting tired of listening to me tell how I did it for them and how I'm now hurting because of my service. And these liberal ass-kissers are the worst. They want everyone else to pay but they won't do anything for a vet who needs a drink.

Don't really care for the comments

If you are retired military are you not still bound by the UCMJ and if so couldn't you loose your retirement for breaking the UCMJ such as saying some of the comments posted in any of these threads. Freedom of speech is one thing but dishonoring other vets while still under the UCMJ is another. Or am I just way off on this?