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Four of us in this grouping so far.....zur Bruegg, Skinner, Grazouille, and Mason.....plus Langley, who is waiting to be told that he is -L562, belong to a cluster or maybe "quasi-clade" because we all have a pretty stable micro allele of 13.2 at DYS 385b, besides being Z142+. We also tend to share similar or identical allele values for a few other markers, such as DYS 481 = 24, DYS 389i = 14 or 15, and DYS 389ii = 31. Credit for identifying this cluster in 2010 goes to argiedude.

Four of us in this grouping so far.....zur Bruegg, Skinner, Grazouille, and Mason.....plus Langley, who is waiting to be told that he is -L562, belong to a cluster or maybe "quasi-clade" because we all have a pretty stable micro allele of 13.2 at DYS 385b, besides being Z142+. We also tend to share similar or identical allele values for a few other markers, such as DYS 481 = 24, DYS 389i = 14 or 15, and DYS 389ii = 31. Credit for identifying this cluster in 2010 goes to argiedude.

delegz

Are these from the U152 and Subclades project? I believe they are. Also who is argiedude?

Four of us in this grouping so far.....zur Bruegg, Skinner, Grazouille, and Mason.....plus Langley, who is waiting to be told that he is -L562, belong to a cluster or maybe "quasi-clade" because we all have a pretty stable micro allele of 13.2 at DYS 385b, besides being Z142+. We also tend to share similar or identical allele values for a few other markers, such as DYS 481 = 24, DYS 389i = 14 or 15, and DYS 389ii = 31. Credit for identifying this cluster in 2010 goes to argiedude.

delegz

Are these from the U152 and Subclades project? I believe they are. Also who is argiedude?

Yes, from the U152 and Subclades project.

Finding others who potentially have 11/13.2 and are Z142+ is like looking for a needle in a haystack. For example, only .043%, or 31 out of 72,228 alleles sampled at DYS 385a/b by the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation and appearing in their Y-Chromosome Database had 13.2. And this includes those with 13.2 who are from other haplogroups. I wish FTDNA would finally let all their customers with micro alleles know that they have them.

I'm ultimately curious whether those of us who are Z142+ share a more unique SNP downstream, so I wonder whether one of us should apply to Walk the Y.

Four of us in this grouping so far.....zur Bruegg, Skinner, Grazouille, and Mason.....plus Langley, who is waiting to be told that he is -L562, belong to a cluster or maybe "quasi-clade" because we all have a pretty stable micro allele of 13.2 at DYS 385b, besides being Z142+. We also tend to share similar or identical allele values for a few other markers, such as DYS 481 = 24, DYS 389i = 14 or 15, and DYS 389ii = 31. Credit for identifying this cluster in 2010 goes to argiedude.

delegz

Are these from the U152 and Subclades project? I believe they are. Also who is argiedude?

Yes, from the U152 and Subclades project.

Finding others who potentially have 11/13.2 and are Z142+ is like looking for a needle in a haystack. For example, only .043%, or 31 out of 72,228 alleles sampled at DYS 385a/b by the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation and appearing in their Y-Chromosome Database had 13.2. And this includes those with 13.2 who are from other haplogroups. I wish FTDNA would finally let all their customers with micro alleles know that they have them.

I'm ultimately curious whether those of us who are Z142+ share a more unique SNP downstream, so I wonder whether one of us should apply to Walk the Y.

Just as an update I have gotten my L562 results and here is where I am at this point:

R1b1a2a1a1b3c3a U152> L2> Z49> Z142+ and L20- L196- L562- L594-

It think Mitchell is in the same bucket as me and I was thinking the same about zur Bruegg, Skinner, Grazouille, Mason and Langley until I re-read the post above from delegz where the DYS 385b is a 13.2 micro allele. At DYS 385b I am 14.