This is an ongoing discussion about 17th Century naval wargaming (really, 1620-1720). Part of what is offered are scenarios for games: orders-of-battle, ship lists, battle descriptions, and scenarios for Age of Sail II-Privateers Bounty (a sailing warfare computer simulation/game), suitable scaled for that environment.
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Saturday, December 23, 2006

So what do we know about the old ship Overijssel?

Ron van Maanen breaks what I believe are all references to the same ship named Overijssel into three entries. He says that the length of the ship was 120ft. There are some other references to the Overijssel in the published literature:

Dr. M. G. De Boer, Tromp en de Armada van 1639 (1941)
page 68 The ship Overijssel: 24 guns and a crew of 100 men
in Witte de With's squadron in September 1639.
The captain was Jacques Forant.
Dr. Johan E. Elias, De Vlootbouw in Nederland 1596-1655 (1933)
Page 84 and Note 6 At least two ships were sold, namely the
Overijssel and Nassau, both of the Admiralty of Amsterdam.
Resolutions of the States General on 11 April and 23 May 1652.
Page 79 Note 5 says that the Nassau was sold on its return from Brazil
The Nassau (36 guns) was from 1636 and had dimensions 132ft x 32ft.
W. J. Hoboken, Witte de With in Brazilie 1648-1649 (1955)
page 309 The ship Overijssel, 28 guns, commanded by
Dirk Crijnen Verveen, and Steven Cuyper on the
return voyage. This says that the Overijssel was
sold on return for f 2000.
A. Vreugdenhil, Lists of Men of War 1650-1700, Part IV Ships
of the United Netherlands 1648-1702 (1938)
Page 5, ship number 50 Overijssel, sold in 1652.

All this seems to indicate to me that Abraham van der Hulst's ship
was not the Overissel, as the ship was sold too early in 1652.

About Me

I spent 11 years on active duty in the navy. Half was as an enlisted man and half as an officer. My Dad had interested me in the navy and ships, when I was young. I found that I was attracted to doing research, regardless of topic, although much of that research has been in the fields of naval and military history. My Dad was also an artist, and got me drawing and painting since I was three. Much of my work consists of portraits of military and naval historical figures, as well as ships and tanks.