Yes, it just bounces off me, because at the moment I don't see you actually stepping up to debate the bigger issues.

Did this kid really carry a pebble in his mouth? Probably some days he did, some days he didn't. I've heard the idea of using a pebble to suppress hunger before, so it's probably legit, but I agree it's unlikely he carried it in his mouth every minute.

But is that Really the biggest issue contained in that link?

Is that really what it all comes down to?

Somehow I don't think so.

The issue here is whether the majority of the 55,000 witness statements would seem to present a reasonably coherent portrayal of events, or whether they clash with accepted, verifiable realities.

When you find some witness statements which do clash with verifiable historical facts, this thread might actually be interesting.

After reading this post I must say that you, Rosie are an anti-semite and a self hating jew. I remember when I was a young anti-semite myself who didn't believe in the holocaust I challenged this thread and the authors and contributors, but you can't deny that these things happened.

I have read many, many, jews that have said that they ate out of their own poop bowl. If it was a single story then we could dismiss it but I've seen that same story countless times. That is just an example.

The overwhelming evidence points to an event that defies the laws of physics. Like Moses parting the Red Sea, or Noah building the arc it defies logic of course! But after you read about enough jews saying that they saw jews suffocate in oxygen rich cattle cars...well, you just break down and accept the story.

Hats off to Yahuda for talking about the holocaust that is so suppressed in our anti-semitic society. Please stop contradicting your own brethren and embrace the otherworldliness of the holocaust.

Yes, it just bounces off me, because at the moment I don't see you actually stepping up to debate the bigger issues.

Did this kid really carry a pebble in his mouth? Probably some days he did, some days he didn't. I've heard the idea of using a pebble to suppress hunger before, so it's probably legit, but I agree it's unlikely he carried it in his mouth every minute.

But is that Really the biggest issue contained in that link?

Is that really what it all comes down to?

Somehow I don't think so.

The issue here is whether the majority of the 55,000 witness statements would seem to present a reasonably coherent portrayal of events, or whether they clash with accepted, verifiable realities.

When you find some witness statements which do clash with verifiable historical facts, this thread might actually be interesting.

The prosecuting attorney assigned by the US Army to take witness statements from the detainees, who had been freshly liberated from Dachau, became so frustrated with all the exaggerated lies that the embittered detainees were making in their witness statements, such as the existence of gas chambers, he finally let them know that if they continued to make false accusations in their statements, that he would begin charging them with perjury.

That's great! I love it!! The Nazis came three times but were just too stupid to notice 8 Jews hiding. And, of course, none of the neighbors noticed either.

I love the part about digging a hole for 8 people. This is great. And, it is quite fitting that the goy dug the hole. Since the Jews couldn't possibly have been expected to partake in a menial task like digging their own hideout!!

You don't seem to have provided a source for that claim...it's almost certainly just propoganda, and certainly clashes with most of the authoritive materal on the liberation of Dachau.

Because I think if you check with reliable sources, the statements made by US troops entering camps such as Dachau are a little more like this in flavour:

"During the early period of our entry into the camp, a number of Company I men, all battle hardened veterans became extremely distraught. Some cried, while others raged. Some thirty minutes passed before I could restore order and discipline. During that time, the over thirty thousand camp prisoners still alive began to grasp the significance of the events taking place. They streamed from their crowded barracks by the hundreds and were soon pressing at the confining barbed wire fence. They began to shout in unison, which soon became a chilling roar. At the same time, several bodies were being tossed about and torn apart by hundreds of hands. I was told later that those being killed at that time were "informers." After about ten minutes of screaming and shouting, the prisoners quieted down."

Meet Angie Suss Paul, who tells schoolkids that she escaped the nazis' evil clutches thanks to "six specific miracles". The article doesn't tell us what the miracles were, but it does tell us that she worked in a concentration camp 'inspecting bullets'. The evil Nazis herded jews into camps intending to kill them, but first they put them to work in the camp munitions factory, allowing them unrestricted access to ammunition.

A German foreman, who was against the war and Hitler, showed Angie how to "sabotage" the bullets. So she spent the last few months of the war helping the Allies by "sabotaging" German bullets.

The scene that met the British troops was that of about 50,000 people who had been without any food or water for 7 days. They were suffering from typhus, a disease carried by lice and fleas that was able to spread rapidly in the overcrowded conditions of the camp. Typhus kills people, and there were about 10,000 unburied dead bodies in the camp to deal with immediately and a high death rate to contend with thereafter. The longer the dead people remained unburied, the more risk there was to the survivors from infection.

Christie produced a copy of a Circular Letter of the Military Police Service dated October 1, 1948 which Lachout read to the court:

Military Police Service Copy
Circular Letter No. 31/48 Vienna, 1 Oct. 1948 10th dispatch
1. The Allied Commissions of Inquiry have so far established that no people were killed by poison gas in the following concentration camps: Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Dachau, Flossenbürg, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen and its satellite camps, Natzweiler, Neuengamme, Niederhagen (Wewelsburg), Ravensbrück, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Theresienstadt.
In those cases, it has been possible to prove that confessions had been extracted by tortures and that testimonies were false.
This must be taken into account when conducting investigations and interrogations with respect to war crimes. The result of this investigation should be brought to the cognizance of former concentration camp inmates who at the time of the hearings testified on the murder of people, especially Jews, with poison gas in those concentration camps. Should they insist on their statements, charges are to be brought against them for making false statements.
2. In the C.L. (Circular Letter) 15/48, item 1 is to be deleted.
The Head of the MPS Müller, Major" Certified true copy: Lachout, Second Lieutenant

Lachout testified that he had drafted this letter for Major Müller's signature and had watched him sign it. He had then had copies made in the office which he certified, signed and stamped.