Posted:17th Jan 2005hi.i dont know if this is a move that has been named or what, so i was wondering if you could help me...i'd do a search but i dont know what to search for so if you wanted to tell me to do a search, then by all means, what should i search for?

spinning the poi on horizontal planes on either side of your body, in opposite directions (ie right hand poi goes down forward up back and left hand poi goes down back up forward) in an alternate beat, spinning through a 3-beat weave.

Posted:17th Jan 2005lol.no problem.i did a durbs and figured out it wasnt a butterfly, but rather areverse split-time 3 beat weave(or something - i cant find the thread that had the name... but it was real cool and reminded me of how german words are real long...)

Posted:19th Jan 2005you could call it the 'horizontal mexican weave' if you wanted. I don't think that's taken and mexican-ness apparently implies cross-body seperation.

it might make a good stumper for the 'insides' thread as to whether this contains inversions. as diagrammed above, it's just a seperated corkscrew though, basically. if you're doing it longarm and turning, you've got horizontal flowers. without turning, i dunno. 'seperated longarm corkscrew' or something, maybe. you'll prolly just have to end up explaining it everytime, anyways. especially if it's a 'horizontal butterfly weave' instead of a corkscrew.

Posted:2nd Feb 2005So is this a butterfly or weave pattern? I've been playing with a few possibilities and found I can't do much of anything in the butterfly pattern when the poi are spinning in a horizontal plane.

Horizontal buzzsaw in butterfly, yes but I sure can't get the butterfly, or the regular three beat weave going in the horiz. plane.

If this is in a weave pattern, I suspect it's a "corkscrew in front of you" no problems to do in the four beat, which I guess would a great way to get into Dut's horizontal flowers

Have you seen the Taming Fire site? they have a video clip of something like this.

spinning the poi on horizontal planes on either side of your body, in opposite directions (ie right hand poi goes down forward up back and left hand poi goes down back up forward) in an alternate beat, spinning through a 3-beat weave.

I am a bit confused by the definition - it is horizontal, yet the poi are going up and down - OK makes sense - up and down within the horizontal plane... but somehow weaving AND in oppsite directions. I'm having trouble visualising this, but have I understood it correctly? If so that's not just a split-time butterfly weave. down, forward, up, back - that doesn't sound horizontal, but diagonal somehow. And if the poi are on either side of your body, how do you weave them in and out of each other within a horizontal plane whilst managing to keep your legs and body out of the way, and not tangling the poi.

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