you are mixing egyptian paganism with the real Hebrew God, which destroyed mankind and saved noah, etc.

some of noah's descendants (set, et al) may have later acted like they were gods, but they were not.

OP this thread is a bunch of

Quoting: spirals

no offense spirals but what you've said doesn't really make any sense... sounds like it came from a person with a very limited understanding of the nature of reality. i think it would serve you well to educate yourself...

- These two had ANOTHER child...named Horus- There are many parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ- Both were partially "god" and partially "man"- Both have many correlations to the concept of "three" - Horus had 3 arms. Jesus is often correlated to the "Holy Trinity"- This would make Thoth and Jesus Christ HALF BROTHERS- It may be that the "Holy Spirit" refers to Thoth - the man who became the EVERYTHING (all particles within all matter and antimatter) and then returned to oneness

- 7 Circles of "Hell"- 7 Levels of "Heaven"- 7 Sins- Perhaps all pertaining to the same chain, which can actually be viewed "sideways" as dimensions- 123456(7)654321- If we exist right in the MIDDLE we are the midpoint of 13 digits- This would give us a "panoramic" perspective, allowing all other dimensions to penetrate ours...we would be able to see the effects of all- We can experience the physical reality BUT ALSO can HEAR, SMELL, SEE, FEEL, and IMAGINE - giving us access to any possible experience imaginable- Perhaps the "gift" left to us by "13" is that we exist right on "7"- I have often thought that there is really only ONE true "sin" which is "fear"...the fear of any other "sin"- If this is the case, many of us would live in "fear" in the sense that we live in an "uncertain" world- If Thoth's wisdom would alleviate the "uncertainty" or "fear" we would begin to understand that SEVEN is actually an ILLUSION (possibly created by ISIS OR SOPHIA) WHICH IS MASKING THE TRUE THIRTEENTH...7 and 13 are one in this case...the 7 sins being an illusion which distracts us from the true reality which we all ACTUALLY experience but are distracted from.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

...MANY "prophets" or "wise men" or "saviors" or "philosophers" (whatever you want to call them) have essentially tried to prove the point I am making here...that we are already inhabiting the true reality and fail to realize it because of our guilt and fear.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

AGAIN...wisdom (finding the correlations and seeing the "everything") alleviates the confusion which diminishes the fear.

- 7 Circles of "Hell"- 7 Levels of "Heaven"- 7 Sins- Perhaps all pertaining to the same chain, which can actually be viewed "sideways" as dimensions- 123456(7)654321- If we exist right in the MIDDLE we are the midpoint of 13 digits- This would give us a "panoramic" perspective, allowing all other dimensions to penetrate ours...we would be able to see the effects of all- We can experience the physical reality BUT ALSO can HEAR, SMELL, SEE, FEEL, and IMAGINE - giving us access to any possible experience imaginable- Perhaps the "gift" left to us by "13" is that we exist right on "7"- I have often thought that there is really only ONE true "sin" which is "fear"...the fear of any other "sin"- If this is the case, many of us would live in "fear" in the sense that we live in an "uncertain" world- If Thoth's wisdom would alleviate the "uncertainty" or "fear" we would begin to understand that SEVEN is actually an ILLUSION (possibly created by ISIS OR SOPHIA) WHICH IS MASKING THE TRUE THIRTEENTH...7 and 13 are one in this case...the 7 sins being an illusion which distracts us from the true reality which we all ACTUALLY experience but are distracted from.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

...MANY "prophets" or "wise men" or "saviors" or "philosophers" (whatever you want to call them) have essentially tried to prove the point I am making here...that we are already inhabiting the true reality and fail to realize it because of our guilt and fear.

- These two had ANOTHER child...named Horus- There are many parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ- Both were partially "god" and partially "man"- Both have many correlations to the concept of "three" - Horus had 3 arms. Jesus is often correlated to the "Holy Trinity"- This would make Thoth and Jesus Christ HALF BROTHERS- It may be that the "Holy Spirit" refers to Thoth - the man who became the EVERYTHING (all particles within all matter and antimatter) and then returned to oneness

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

thats what happened to me

Quoting: drhoecker 32557955

I think it can happen to any of us. We only need to unlock the right doors.

- 7 Circles of "Hell"- 7 Levels of "Heaven"- 7 Sins- Perhaps all pertaining to the same chain, which can actually be viewed "sideways" as dimensions- 123456(7)654321- If we exist right in the MIDDLE we are the midpoint of 13 digits- This would give us a "panoramic" perspective, allowing all other dimensions to penetrate ours...we would be able to see the effects of all- We can experience the physical reality BUT ALSO can HEAR, SMELL, SEE, FEEL, and IMAGINE - giving us access to any possible experience imaginable- Perhaps the "gift" left to us by "13" is that we exist right on "7"- I have often thought that there is really only ONE true "sin" which is "fear"...the fear of any other "sin"- If this is the case, many of us would live in "fear" in the sense that we live in an "uncertain" world- If Thoth's wisdom would alleviate the "uncertainty" or "fear" we would begin to understand that SEVEN is actually an ILLUSION (possibly created by ISIS OR SOPHIA) WHICH IS MASKING THE TRUE THIRTEENTH...7 and 13 are one in this case...the 7 sins being an illusion which distracts us from the true reality which we all ACTUALLY experience but are distracted from.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

...MANY "prophets" or "wise men" or "saviors" or "philosophers" (whatever you want to call them) have essentially tried to prove the point I am making here...that we are already inhabiting the true reality and fail to realize it because of our guilt and fear.

Ones actions vary due to said 'Virtues' and 'Sins' above, and how balanced they are in the individual '0'.

Some act with righteousness and morality.

Other much the opposite.

The '0' chooses.

Free will.

Quoting: Seer777

I see properly/improperly channeled emotional actions and responses. There's a time for all things, when any item in the negative column could be a virtue and not a vice... and vise versa. Then those core emotions we all share split again. They're just baselines, without understanding and application, just all just empty concepts.

Edited to fix an agreement error, lol.

Quoting: Bea Nameless

The point is the Movement.

Self Control.

I guess that what it all come down to...

People being able through balance to control their own often impulsive and hurtful behaviors.

The prison system is not a deterrent. Neither religion, which just adds to the atrocity and nonsense.

It seem...Man desires to govern him or herself without needing other forms of external control to keep one 'safe'.

Perhaps when the power of love is EQUAL to the love of power (I.e. we can all share and MAINTAIN control equally) the world will know "perfection."

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

they will try to kill you with their pseudo kindness brother, i cannot prove this to you, but i will have your back.

im done being nice to these parasites.

Quoting: orpheuskingstone

I agree that some will do this. This is why "he who always returns" is always banished and will return again. Love and hate...life and death...light and darkness will continue to battle...but wisdom will remain eternally reborn into the children, the cosmic giggle...The Houses Of The Holy.

Perhaps when the power of love is EQUAL to the love of power (I.e. we can all share and MAINTAIN control equally) the world will know "perfection."

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

they will try to kill you with their pseudo kindness brother, i cannot prove this to you, but i will have your back.

im done being nice to these parasites.

Quoting: orpheuskingstone

I agree that some will do this. This is why "he who always returns" is always banished and will return again. Love and hate...life and death...light and darkness will continue to battle...but wisdom will remain eternally reborn into the the children, the cosmic giggle...The Houses Of The Holy.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

you are taking this too lightly brother.

in this, there is no game.

they need you to love them so they can feel excused for horrendous deed.

Perhaps when the power of love is EQUAL to the love of power (I.e. we can all share and MAINTAIN control equally) the world will know "perfection."

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

they will try to kill you with their pseudo kindness brother, i cannot prove this to you, but i will have your back.

im done being nice to these parasites.

Quoting: orpheuskingstone

I agree that some will do this. This is why "he who always returns" is always banished and will return again. Love and hate...life and death...light and darkness will continue to battle...but wisdom will remain eternally reborn into the the children, the cosmic giggle...The Houses Of The Holy.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

you are taking this too lightly brother.

in this, there is no game.

they need you to love them so they can feel excused for horrendous deed.

they will try to kill you with their pseudo kindness brother, i cannot prove this to you, but i will have your back.

im done being nice to these parasites.

Quoting: orpheuskingstone

I agree that some will do this. This is why "he who always returns" is always banished and will return again. Love and hate...life and death...light and darkness will continue to battle...but wisdom will remain eternally reborn into the the children, the cosmic giggle...The Houses Of The Holy.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

you are taking this too lightly brother.

in this, there is no game.

they need you to love them so they can feel excused for horrendous deed.

you dont have to like everyone kai, even me.

Quoting: orpheuskingstone

I don't like everyone. But I understand them.

Quoting: Kai (VALIS)

no brother, you dont. they are hateful in every other name but hateful.

you are loving in every name.

you cant understand because you reflect the myself who didnt either.

please trust me kai, there are some who use you to justify themselves, and you can do whatever you wish, my wish is that you know this.

Existing in all places, becoming all forms, taking all names, playing all games, disbanding and uniting...becoming everything and returning to one. I have known what it is to be unable to trust and have chosen to trust in spite of it. I have seen what is in men's hearts, I have been it and done it, horrible things and wonderful things...and this is how I understand.

Existing in all places, becoming all forms, taking all names, playing all games, disbanding and uniting...becoming everything and returning to one. I have known what it is to be unable to trust and have chosen to trust in spite of it. I have seen what is in men's hearts, I have been it and done it, horrible things and wonderful things...and this is how I understand.