Which recent cards have you enjoyed more?

In watching both WSOF and Bellator I've come to find the WSOF cards more entertaining overall. I believe a lot of this has to do with WSOF not being shy about picking up the old UFC talent. Bellator overall hasn't seemed to generate much of it's own talent and also seem to have little drawing power outside of main events and the few ZUFFA fighters they have acquired. Thoughts?

I'm starting to think Bellator and Viacom should suck it up and acquire some old UFC talent. People would tune in and see their up and comers. Not too mention how good do you think WSOF cards will be once they have been around as long as Bellator?

I liked this last WSOF because I knew the fighters - only reason I watched.

I've gotten to know some of the fighters a little bit in Bellator, but it's hard to know where they stand (unless they go to UFC like Hector) because Bellator rarely hires any known quantities in the form of former UFC fighters.

I liked this last WSOF because I knew the fighters - only reason I watched.

I've gotten to know some of the fighters a little bit in Bellator, but it's hard to know where they stand (unless they go to UFC like Hector) because Bellator rarely hires any known quantities in the form of former UFC fighters.

That sort of supports my point if Bellator brought old UFC talent on then people would tune in to see them and get a glimpse of Bellator's up and comers. I think they need to stop filling out cards with guys that are 6-5 and 3-3 since they generally don't put on a good show anyway.

All of Bellator's undercard fights are squash matches between guys that have decent records and total cans.

Quite a few guys are trying to win a spot in the next season's tournament on the undercard. But most are just local guys which isn't bad for the business model. They don't have to pay them much money. If I'm going to see a card live, I want to see 8-11 fights. If some feature local guys that might be overmatched, as long as they are pros, fine. I've been to a couple Bellator shows, for the price of the ticket of $35 plus fees, it is a great value.

As far as WSOF v. Bellator is concerned, far too early to tell. If WSOF can put on 6 events a year and have well known guys and legit prospects on each card I'll continue to watch.

Bellator hands down. WSOF of fighting has put on 2 events so far, way to small of a sample to see if they can continue putting solid names on the cards at that rate(I'm doubtful).
Bellator for the most part consistently puts on solid cards, imo of course. That being said, I hope WSOF of fighting and Sefo can continue to deliver.

Quite a few guys are trying to win a spot in the next season's tournament on the undercard. But most are just local guys which isn't bad for the business model. They don't have to pay them much money. If I'm going to see a card live, I want to see 8-11 fights. If some feature local guys that might be overmatched, as long as they are pros, fine. I've been to a couple Bellator shows, for the price of the ticket of $35 plus fees, it is a great value.

As far as WSOF v. Bellator is concerned, far too early to tell. If WSOF can put on 6 events a year and have well known guys and legit prospects on each card I'll continue to watch.

They may not have to pay them much but they also draw very few viewers. Not many fans tune in to watch a guy that's 8-5 take on someone that 10-8. When your on cable TV you have to bring in viewers to make it work. It also comes off that Bellator doesnt treat their fighters well considering alot of them jump ship for organizations as soon as they can.

Bellator hands down. WSOF of fighting has put on 2 events so far, way to small of a sample to see if they can continue putting solid names on the cards at that rate(I'm doubtful).
Bellator for the most part consistently puts on solid cards, imo of course. That being said, I hope WSOF of fighting and Sefo can continue to deliver.

I believe they can continue to put on solid cards with decent names. They also plan on having 8 to 10 events per year and considering they aren't shy about signing old talent from other organizations they will always have big names on cards.

I believe they can continue to put on solid cards with decent names. They also plan on having 8 to 10 events per year and considering they aren't shy about signing old talent from other organizations they will always have big names on cards.

And with that comes a much larger payroll. We'll see what happens, but ratings and tickets plus sponsors need to really continue moving north. We'll see how it plays out, I'm all for more organizations.

And with that comes a much larger payroll. We'll see what happens, but ratings and tickets plus sponsors need to really continue moving north. We'll see how it plays out, I'm all for more organizations.

So am I but I really don't see Bellator being overly successful as time goes on. WSOF will most likely grab the big names leaving other organizations and OneFC snatches up most of the international prospects. Not to mention the Bellator tournaments seem to feature alot of the same fighters over and over.

So am I but I really don't see Bellator being overly successful as time goes on. WSOF will most likely grab the big names leaving other organizations and OneFC snatches up most of the international prospects. Not to mention the Bellator tournaments seem to feature alot of the same fighters over and over.

Bellator is actually best suited for the most long term success. They are doing an awesome job of picking up the unknown prospects, great ties to eastern european camps and fighters(who are going to be taking over the sport imo) and for the most part have done things the right way. Sure, tournaments do feature a lot of the same, but with the influx of what has been happening, we should see other fighters popping up and getting their way into tournaments to keep it fresh.

Grabbing up big names only does so much. Ask the many organizations that fell flat on their faces quickly by trying to go that route.

Bellator is actually best suited for the most long term success. They are doing an awesome job of picking up the unknown prospects, great ties to eastern european camps and fighters(who are going to be taking over the sport imo) and for the most part have done things the right way. Sure, tournaments do feature a lot of the same, but with the influx of what has been happening, we should see other fighters popping up and getting their way into tournaments to keep it fresh.

Grabbing up big names only does so much. Ask the many organizations that fell flat on their faces quickly by trying to go that route.

I understand you can't build around big names really but those big names bring you in to watch the cards. Also considering fighters are very happy being employed by WSOF I could see fighters jumping at the chance to fight there. As far as eastern European talent goes they have to compete with M-1, WSOF and OneFC for that talent.

I understand you can't build around big names really but those big names bring you in to watch the cards. Also considering fighters are very happy being employed by WSOF I could see fighters jumping at the chance to fight there. As far as eastern European talent goes they have to compete with M-1, WSOF and OneFC for that talent.

Bellator has very strong ties with the premier Russian camps and some up and coming ones. They are positioned very well in that area..they honestly have very little competition there.
Big names are nice, but putting on consistent cards is what matters to me. Most of the names that are getting cut, wouldn't attract me to watch the cards in itself though. UFC is smart, they are cutting guys that either do not produce in terms of fights or in terms of drawing and building their bottom line. Snatching up those guys may sound like a good idea at first, but it'll only go so far.

And for jumping ship, the only guys that are wanting to jump ship are the huge names that want those UFC contracts and everything else that can come with it for the most part.