There is still so much information that we don't know that I'm laughing at all the idiots who are up in arms and freaking out over this. I actually saw someone say Microsoft wants to end all gaming because of decisions like this.

I'll wait until we have all the facts to make a decision, I'm not going to freak out a day or two after the announcement.

Also, can we stop bitching about the name? XBox One isn't that bad of a name. Every time someone bitches about it I shake my head. What the hell do you care what the system is called? If it has cool features and can play, you know, video games, who the **** cares?

So if I have a CD and I let my friend borrow it he should have to buy it to listen to it?

If I'm buying something, I'm buying something because I want to use it. Not because my friend kenny can't afford it and mooch off of me. I mean, all of my friends and I are adults and are economically adequate enough at this point in our lives to all buy our own ****. I just don't get it. Youre blowing every little unspecified detail into the biggest deal, and I'm not really sure why when sony hasn't made much more comment on these matters than microsoft has.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

If I'm buying something, I'm buying something because I want to use it. Not because my friend kenny can't afford it and mooch off of me. I mean, all of my friends and I are adults and are economically adequate enough at this point in our lives to all buy our own ****. I just don't get it. Youre blowing every little unspecified detail into the biggest deal, and I'm not really sure why when sony hasn't made much more comment on these matters than microsoft has.

Of course they did, and I let them borrow mine too. But at this point in my life I buy very few games, and when I do, I buy them new. Never have I made a purchase in the last few years in regards to anything and thought, "what is the amount of utility this product has in regards to other people".

I buy a game, its for me. I want to play a game that isnt mine, I try it out at a friends house. I havent borrowed a game in like eight years.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

Once sony says something about it I think they'll get their fair share of hate comments, but Microsoft came out and said it first which is probably the reason why obviously lol. But I said it before I like to try out games and borrow from my bro n law a lot so not being able to do that without paying is kind of a deal breaker if only microsoft does this. And you really can't assume Sony will follow suit. Like people are so confident and they know exactly what sony will or will not do. If Sony can see the reaction I'd think they'd be smart enough to not follow and trump Microsoft this year. Microsoft decided to paid online play and sony didn't follow so I don't see why Sony wouldn't follow.

I just hope Microsoft doesn't have a batch full of a situation like the red ring of death again. Going through 3 xbox's finally making the switch to ps3 made me forget about the xbox. I think they handled that situation poorly, horrible customer service on my end when trying to get my **** fixed. When my ps3 broke I called them and they sent me a box to send it in and within 24 hours they sent me a replacement ps3 with barely a day wait time and it's still working today, even my ps2 went through hell and it lasted me for years. I'll probably end up getting both if xbox's exclusives are good enough, but I'm pretty much deadset waiting for the ps4.

Also you may not care for the used games part, but there will be a **** ton of kids who rely on the trade in system to get new games that will be really upset. Gamestop had what I think 26mil in used game sales this past year.

Of course they did, and I let them borrow mine too. But at this point in my life I buy very few games, and when I do, I buy them new. Never have I made a purchase in the last few years in regards to anything and thought, "what is the amount of utility this product has in regards to other people".

I buy a game, its for me. I want to play a game that isnt mine, I try it out at a friends house. I havent borrowed a game in like eight years.

sure you haven't and you don't plan to. But think of the masses, it might not effect you, in general its a very big step towards controlling our goods.

Essentially it has become, we are letting you only borrow this disk full of our data and only you. you don't actually own it, its our property but you can pay $60 to borrow it and use it, but only you and nobody else."

again I don't know the exact details and things can change, we still have till November.

Eh theres been heavy speculation that both sides would be making this move well before microsoft came out and said it, hence why Im not surprised. I'm just not going to act like microsoft is makign the world collapse on the gaming market when the specifics havent been announced and Sony has just kept quiet on the matter (smart). Its just speculation, so I'm not sure why people are running around like the sky is falling here lol.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

I mean if the masses are a bunch of 14 year old kids who can't buy their own games good, because I don't want them ruining online gaming for me anyway lol.

And not to mention, gamestop made like a 300% profit off the used games tactic and I don't see anyone crying about that. You trade in a game you bought/released a week ago they give you MAYBE 20 bucks, then turn around and sell it for like five dollars less than new price. I'm sorry I just don't feel that bad for the used game market.

Especially considering a percentage of this fee would probably go towards the game developers who made the game. And as a consumer, i'd much rather pay a used game fee to support the developer making the game I enjoy then some third party middle man ripping consumers off in the first place.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

I mean if the masses are a bunch of 14 year old kids who can't buy their own games good, because I don't want them ruining online gaming for me anyway lol.

And not to mention, gamestop made like a 300% profit off the used games tactic and I don't see anyone crying about that. You trade in a game you bought/released a week ago they give you MAYBE 20 bucks, then turn around and sell it for like five dollars less than new price. I'm sorry I just don't feel that bad for the used game market.

Especially considering a percentage of this fee would probably go towards the game developers who made the game. And as a consumer, i'd much rather pay a used game fee to support the developer making the game I enjoy then some third party middle man ripping consumers off in the first place.

Yep, like I said before, the whole used game market is scummy. Why people are freaking out over it is silly. Again, I don't feel bad for developers. They should sell games cheaper, or make sure they reduce price quickly (which they typically do now to combat used games). Used games benefits almost no one except Gamestop. Consumers get almost nothing for their full-price games. People who buy used games get a marginal discount.

I personally do not buy any new games unless they're something I REALLY want. Otherwise if you wait a month you can usually get them for a significant discount.

I don't like the route Microsoft is going, but I do find it funny they people believe the PS4 won't be taking similar measures. Two people posted links trying to contradict it, but from what I read it said something by literally saying nothing. Not surprising.

I'm going to wait until all the details are released (probably during E3). I won't freak out.

Honestly, I just find Sony to be a terrible company in general so that's why I'm hesitant to buy a PS4. I had to have my PS3 replaced twice because the Blu-ray drive crapped out and both times they charged me for it.

Yep, like I said before, the whole used game market is scummy. Why people are freaking out over it is silly. Again, I don't feel bad for developers. They should sell games cheaper, or make sure they reduce price quickly (which they typically do now to combat used games). Used games benefits almost no one except Gamestop. Consumers get almost nothing for their full-price games. People who buy used games get a marginal discount.

I personally do not buy any new games unless they're something I REALLY want. Otherwise if you wait a month you can usually get them for a significant discount.

I don't like the route Microsoft is going, but I do find it funny they people believe the PS4 won't be taking similar measures. Two people posted links trying to contradict it, but from what I read it said something by literally saying nothing. Not surprising.

I'm going to wait until all the details are released (probably during E3). I won't freak out.

Honestly, I just find Sony to be a terrible company in general so that's why I'm hesitant to buy a PS4. I had to have my PS3 replaced twice because the Blu-ray drive crapped out and both times they charged me for it.

Thats also by in large what is most comical to me. Microsoft never stated anything about pricing, just that there would be some sort of fee, and from that people are getting that you have to pay full price for a used game

And then pointing to Sony's silence on these issues as some sort of proof they wont follow suit. Its just fanboy speculation running rampant at this point. Like lets all just wait until we get ALL the details here before we start freaking.

At this point all we can say is microsoft thus far has done a terrible job highlighting the xbox1.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.