i dont doubt nvidia will try to release something, but if they release a 790 or titan ultra, the prices are going to be ridiculous most likely.

To me the price gap between the 760>770>780>Titan was too large, but Nvidia never wavered because sales never seemed to suffer. I fully expect a price drop on the 770, 780 and Titan. $350, $550, and $800 if the R9-290 and R9-290X deliver.

No, what he is saying is that when Nvidia re-branded the 680 as a 770, it got blasted even though it was $100 cheaper. He is not saying that the 770 is a better buy than a 7970, but essentially that AMD is doing the same re-brand tactic as Nvidia yet pricing the re-branded card similarly to the old card. How is AMD not open to the same ridicule?

Because it stands to reason that even their low in offering will perform on par if not better then higher tier nv parts do to mantle. Now that AMD now has the console market they truly can have a hand in how games are developed.

Looking everything over, I think that at the end Nvidia is more supported. It's great that AMD came out with this, maybe Hawaii in March will beat it.

In my situation, I am going to wait and see, since I am quite happy with the performance at Surround 1600p 8050 x 1600 w/ bezel correction on 2/3 Titans.

If I find that other games can't play it at that point I will consider replacing them. I had the same conundrum when the RIVE black came out, but now after thinking it over 7 month from now Intel is supposed to come out with a new socket / chip. So why would it make sense to upgrade to the last chip in the x79 cycle and never be able to upgrade it.

No, what he is saying is that when Nvidia re-branded the 680 as a 770, it got blasted even though it was $100 cheaper. He is not saying that the 770 is a better buy than a 7970, but essentially that AMD is doing the same re-brand tactic as Nvidia yet pricing the re-branded card similarly to the old card. How is AMD not open to the same ridicule?

This. If you didn't condone what Nvidia did, then how can you condone what AMD is doing? To the point of calling it amazing? The fact that Nidia artificially held the price of the 680 higher made the 770 look like a better deal by comparison (and I'm sure the 7970 list price is still closer to $400 than $300 so it is a price cut for AMD also) but the reality is that AMD is doing pretty much the exact same thing Nvidia did a few months ago. And that's not good for anyone because it allows them to make a new price point above the current one. If the 290 comes in at $450 and the 290X at $600, then we all lose out.

To me the price gap between the 760>770>780>Titan was too large, but Nvidia never wavered because sales never seemed to suffer. I fully expect a price drop on the 770, 780 and Titan. $350, $550, and $800 if the R9-290 and R9-290X deliver.

we can only hope for the prices drops, id love to pick up some 780s for friends rigs that are stuck in the stone ages of gpus lol, and id love to pick up a new titan to replace my one runty core one, +1000 on the memory...cant get past 1202 core

I didn't pay attention to the 770 release. If it was $100 less than the 680, that's cool. However, it doesn't change the fact that Nvidia has kept that price despite the 7970 being $100 less now. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they keep that price even after the 280x is released. Nvidia is that arrogant and people will buy their cards for the name over value.

This. If you didn't condone what Nvidia did, then how can you condone what AMD is doing? To the point of calling it amazing? The fact that Nidia artificially held the price of the 680 higher made the 770 look like a better deal by comparison (and I'm sure the 7970 list price is still closer to $400 than $300 so it is a price cut for AMD also) but the reality is that AMD is doing pretty much the exact same thing Nvidia did a few months ago. And that's not good for anyone because it allows them to make a new price point above the current one. If the 290 comes in at $450 and the 290X at $600, then we all lose out.

The difference is AMD is pricing the 280x at around the Used/low sale price of a 7970, while Nvidia priced the 770 well over the used and even new price of the 680 at the time.