Comments on: Kotick would like to “create an online world for Call of Duty”http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/
VG247.comTue, 29 Jul 2014 08:36:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.1By: G1GAHURTZhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-2/#comment-189552
Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:02:19 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-189552“btw thats the LAST activsion game I pay for, i’ll just steal it from now on, as I will no longer financially promote this greedy behavior.”

Of course if he could snap his fingers we would all have our bank accounts hooked right up to activision.

KEEP GAMES FREE, shit we only already PAY $60 for them in the first place!

Get mad at this people, they’re ripping you off!….and BRAGGING about it in the wall street journal.

That guy is so ugly! What a joke!

btw thats the LAST activsion game I pay for, i’ll just steal it from now on, as I will no longer financially promote this greedy behavior.

]]>By: Gheritt Whitehttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-2/#comment-189195
Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:46:31 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-189195Maybe a CoD MMO could work if it followed your trajectory from boot camp all the way through to operations in one of several theatres?
]]>By: OlderGamerhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-189047
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:14:29 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-189047“I can’t imagine anything more childish than to refer to yourself as a “hardcore gamer”. Don’t you see how pathetic that is? It’s like a kid on the playground saying he can swing higher than everybody else. Oh yeah, I’m sure the other kids are real impressed, Mr Hardcore.”

One of the best paragraphs I have read in awhile. Spot on. But to be fair most of us have gotten a bit full of ourselves when it comes to gaming from time to time. Myself included.

I can’t imagine anything more childish than to refer to yourself as a “hardcore gamer”. Don’t you see how pathetic that is? It’s like a kid on the playground saying he can swing higher than everybody else. Oh yeah, I’m sure the other kids are real impressed, Mr Hardcore.

So you don’t like Modern Warfare 2 – Fair enough. That’s an honest oppinion. It only gets pathetic when you try to make it seem like the only logical conclusion. A lot of people would disagree.

As for Bobby Kotick – If you hate him you basically just hate capitalism. All CEOs are driven by greed, and they all want your money. At the end of the day though, their succes depends solely on you and your peers.

Plenty of people care about Wii sports Resort or Twilight, but i’m not

“tens of millions of KIDS/Casual players are paying 60 bucks ”

Fixed.

“You can equate Modern Warfare 2 to as many irrelevant games in other genres as you want to, but in the case of Uncharted 2, which I’m sure is excellent, it only got a meta-rating of ONE percentage point higher than Modern Warfare 2″

Fuck Metacritic (c) Adam Sessler.
I’m a hardcore player that have an experience with many awesome and not so much games and in my opinion MW2 is not great game and Uncharted 2 is a great game or Valve games are great games.

]]>By: DeSpiritusBellumhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-189003
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:43:44 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-189003@42 The fact is that plenty of people care.

You seem to live in some sort of alternate reality where a minority of people mouthing off on the internet somehow equals universal truth. The world is a bit bigger and a lot deeper than internet banter – And out there, tens of millions of people are paying 60 bucks for Modern Warfare 2, and liking it. Liking it enough to pay a grotesquely high toll for DLC, even.

You can equate Modern Warfare 2 to as many irrelevant games in other genres as you want to, but in the case of Uncharted 2, which I’m sure is excellent, it only got a meta-rating of ONE percentage point higher than Modern Warfare 2.

Ergo, using the facts and your own example of what defines crticial acclaim, Modern Warfare 2 is obviously as great a game as Uncharted 2, since one percentage point is well within the margin of error in any survey.

Thanks for clearing that up.

]]>By: Andershttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188999
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:05:20 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188999“+ it’s my opinion. I enjoyed Uncharted 2 and other games much more then Call Of Duty.”

Fine. Than write that. What you shouldn’t write is that everyone who doesn’t agree with you are weird people. It makes you look like a troll.

]]>By: Erthazushttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188997
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:00:21 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188997@43
I’m not calling that it is a fact, but critics and people feedback was just epic, not to mention that it is game of the year. But critics and e.t.c. i don’t care. I care for gaming community in general that blown away by this game.

+ it’s my opinion. I enjoyed Uncharted 2 and other games much more then Call Of Duty.

this works. But not in CoD setting. It’s a war, not bows and magic.
The best MMO FPS game could be like Warhammer setting.

@40 Hey, ok. Go answer to others, they said everything that i wanted to say. I don’t care about 20 millions sales. I don’t care about Kotick,s pocket and i think that Call OF Duty as the MMO is a bad idea. Read others on why it is wrong.
Uncharted 2 >>>>>> Modern Warfare 2. Normal people know that. DICE games >>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Warfare 2 (BTW just saw at Steam, 146 K players on MW2 and 9962 FULL SERVERS on BC2). Valve games >>>>>>>>>>>> All cheap CoD games combined.
they all sold less then CoD games and people don’t care. DON’T CARE. But you know, Wii Sports Resort sold for 60 million, so maybe Wii Sports Resort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call Of Duty
Oh… Hmmmm… Maybe this is true. Yeap, even Wii sports resort is better then Call OF duty game, at least it’s innovative. Zing!

Thats it. 2+2=? Do the math. I bought the game + it was shit = My opinion. ZING!

One of the best and first MMORPGs was M59, built on a doom engine, played first person, and felt like a shooter with swords/arrows/magic. It was very PVP focused. And to this day it was the most fun I have ever had playing a MMO.

COD is a big name with lots of fans. Why not?

As for people that always seem to complain, it boils down to something simple. Don’t play it. I love Online games. And I play MMOs. What I don’t get, personialy, is the enjoyment playing offline SP games. All alone. By yourself. In a world were no one sees what you do, or cares what you do. Full of hollow NPCs. Could we be any bigger nerds?

But ya know what? No harm no foul. If I don’t like a game I am not forced to play it. Same for those folks that don’t get MMOs.

Live and let live.

COD Online? I won’t buy it, but I am sure millions will.

]]>By: DeSpiritusBellumhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188960
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:53:50 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188960@34 You may think that the entire gaming press and 20 million people are wrong, but I’m smarter than to think that you can trick several countries worth of gamers into buying your product, simply by paying for a few banners and a tv commercial. Only an idiot would ignore an indicator like 20 million sales.

I’m not being defensive, I’m just argueing simple facts here. The fact that you desperately try to change the subject every time you’re proven to be flat wrong, is defensive.

It’s fair enough if you don’t think making an MMO out of one of the most popular gaming franchises in history is a good idea, but like I said, that’s why you don’t work in games.

]]>By: raoulldukehttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188955
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:04:14 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188955i don’t get MMO’s they’re boring as shit to me. the people who play them must have no lives at all. dull repetitive level grinding. but to each they’re own.

but an FPS MMO won’t work in any way like people would want it to. it would play exactly like cod does now but you would pay to aaccess advanced stats and theater options like you get for free with halo now. aswell as the ocasional new weapon or something.

the dark master sugested the idea before MW2 came out and robert bowling quickly tweeted that it would never happen with a MW game.

if people are dumb anough to pay for that. its a great idea for the publishers, but an awfull one for gamers. as other companys will soon follow suit.

to be honest i think activision are about to learn a harsh lesson about franchise market saturation. apparently their are 3 cod games in development and a spin off. i was sick of the series about a week after MW2 landed.

and judging by the trailers black ops just looks like a direct rip off of MW2. no thanx.

]]>By: Shade 2k10http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188946
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:19:55 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188946My biggest concern is the people, that all bought “Modern Warfare 2″, because when you can make your game sell that much, there is no doubt that atleast 50% of those would buy the “Call of duty: online” game.
]]>By: G1GAHURTZhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188943
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:47:38 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188943@34:ha ha ha! look he talked heself (!) to funny! latvia

You. is. stupid. boy. ha ha ha(!)

“And Wii Sport Resort is the best game ever created. SALES are not the QUALITY.”

Wii Sport Resort have the QUALITY best motion control game(!).! Plus come with Wii anyway? bundle

“When you will understand that.”

When you will understand english(?)

“Valve FPS games have sales of the Battlefield level, but they are 100000000% better then any…”

“There are a lot of games that people don’t need, but inb essence they are masterpiece.”

inb essence you talked in rubbish. all people by best game in year more than other game ha ha ha!

“People wants to eat everyday MCDonalds stuff.”

you are hungry go eat MCDonalds. latvia

Battlefield is microwave food go bad after 1 day(!) ha ha ha!

]]>By: Freekhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188942
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:31:45 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188942It’s not that making an MMO is wrong. It’s wrong to turn something into an MMO for absolutly no good goddamn reason beyond cash money and Koticks love of it.

There is no gameplay reason for CoD to be an MMO. It’s popular because it’s a good multiplayer shooter with a nice singleplayer component, there is no MMO here. He just thinks that because people like to play CoD in mutltiplayer you can simply atach a monthly fee to that.

]]>By: Amoredhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188937
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:49:56 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188937I’d play a Call of Duty MMO.
]]>By: Erthazushttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188933
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:31:46 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188933@29 do you care how i say? MMORPG or MMO. It’s all the bad idea to make out of Call Of duty MMO or MMOFPS.

“then why are you commenting on a business executive?”

Because it’s my opinion. I can’t do it or what?

“As to whether MW2 is the best shooter or not, certainly the people buying games say that it is, and certainly reviewers think that it is. ”

And Wii Sport Resort is the best game ever created. SALES are not the QUALITY. When you will understand that. Valve FPS games have sales of the Battlefield level, but they are 100000000% better then any fucking Clusterfuck from Activision. There are a lot of games that people don’t need, but inb essence they are masterpiece. People wants to eat everyday MCDonalds stuff.
Call Of duty is that MCChicken or cheap hamburger. Case closed.

you just like the game and defending. Defend as much as you want. Uncharted 2 was the best game last year for example and had not so much sales, but it rapes MW2 by thousand miles. Sales are a work of PR and Activision is doing a fantastic job selling these games.

Anyway On topic: Call Of duty as MMORPG is a bad idea.

@Street Sweeper, go wash my toilet and clean my street. Premenstrual dysphoric disorder is a problem, i understand that. Maybe i will call a DOCTOR for you XD

]]>By: Joe_Gamerhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188925
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 04:43:45 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188925The question is “are gamers willing to buy a game and then pay a monthly sub for CoD?”

I’m gonna say no, but I bet we find out in the next few years. Personally I think they are choking the goose to death but hey gotta get those golden eggs somehow. What’s that you say? hard work, compelling story lines and a bit of innovation? Well that’s certainly an unusual idea, we’ll call that plan B, but for now were just gonna keep fucking this goose.

I stopped supporting Activision when they gave the big FU to PC games for Modern Warfare 2, Price raise and no dedicated servers? God damn guys you gotta boil the frog, can’t just set it on fire, shit you know better Bobby boy.

Kotick wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t so god damn obvious about trying to rape your wallet. He’s an unabashed wallet rapist and that’s just not cool, I mean every publisher in the world is trying to get in your wallet but most of them have the decency to at least pretend they care about “gameplay” and “customer satisfaction”.

WoW had a massive storyline and fully developed fantasy world when they turned it into an MMO, CoD has uhhh, shooting? None of the FPSMMO’s I’ve played has been worth a damn, and I played many, from Tabula Rasa to The Agency. I’ve been dying for a FPSMMO that I could really get into but they always fall flat on the story. It’s like these guys never read anything deeper than the funny pages of the local paper. “Writers? we don’t need to pay for writers we have bullets.” Very frustrating.

MMO’s also have tons and tons of content, dozens of character models and classes, Millions of NPC’s thousands of pages of dialogue, gigantic wide open areas. FPS multiplayer is all about cramming live human opponents into a warehouse or airfield and seeing who’s got the best reflexes, a few new maps every couple of months doesn’t really require enough server resources to justify a subscription IMHO.

You’ve made no attempt to add anything to this so called discussion, shut up or deliever.

You’ve made no attempt to add anything to this so-called discussion. Shut up or deliver.

(See comment 14, btw…)

I understand you defending the CoD Series, I for one is a great fan of CoD2 and CoD4

I understand that you’re defending the CoD series. I, for one, am a great fan of CoD2 and CoD4.

Robert Kotick for you: He think games are to cheap, we customers should pay more for them.

That’s Robert Kotick for you. He thinks games are too cheap and that we, his customers, should pay more for them.

He hasn’t worked his way to the “top” in the gaming-industry

He hasn’t worked his way to the “top” in the games industry.

Also the very idea to make a CoD MMO is quite absurd, sure he wants to make money and he plans on doing this by using a famous franchise?

The very idea of making a CoD MMO is also quite absurd. He wants to make money and he plans on doing this by using a famous franchise. (Still doesn’t make sense.)

Might sell anyways though, Modern Warfare 2 proved to us that a game doesn’t have to be good as long as you deliever marketing.

It might sell, anyway. Modern Warfare 2 proved to us that a game doesn’t have to be good in order to sell well, but it will if you can deliver a good marketing campaign.

]]>By: LordCancerhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188918
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:09:03 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188918i want play fable 3 with bobby kotick have his kids and then murder them in front of him and watch him cry like a little girl.
]]>By: DeSpiritusBellumhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188917
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:04:18 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188917@22 Actually, there’s a pretty big difference between an MMO and an MMORPG. You might want to read what the guy says more closely, there.

I don’t see why you wouldn’t make a perfectly good MMO out of a shooter, but maybe I just have more imagination when it comes to things like that.

If you don’t care about money, then why are you commenting on a business executive? He has next to no creative control over any IP. All he can do is say “You’re fired”/”You’re hired” “You get money”/”You get nothing”. He starts things and he can end them.

That’s his job. And so far he’s been right.

As to whether MW2 is the best shooter or not, certainly the people buying games say that it is, and certainly reviewers think that it is.

Seriously, you can call Kotick a douchebag for being too good at his job, but he isn’t Satan, he isn’t God. He’s just a suit in a corporation making decisions, that the consumers are justifying on an unheard of scale, with their dollars and cents.

@G1GAHURTZ, please just learn how to spell and form sentences with correct grammar in them. You’ve made no attempt to add anything to this so called discussion, shut up or deliever.

@DeSpiritusBellum(lol @ the name)

I’m not normally the one to overuse this word, but it does fit you quite well…fanboy.

I understand you defending the CoD Series, I for one is a great fan of CoD2 and CoD4 (MW2? Not So much…).
However, I’ve yet to see a reason for you to defend Robert Kotick. He is contributing nothing to the gaming industry, all he wants is money and he has no part in the development of the actual games.

Robert Kotick for you: He think games are to cheap, we customers should pay more for them.

That fact alone should give you enough to hate him for what he is, a greedy selfish fuck.
He hasn’t worked his way to the “top” in the gaming-industry, one can only assume he was born with a silverspoon up his arse and was crowned the king of some throne a long time ago.

Also the very idea to make a CoD MMO is quite absurd, sure he wants to make money and he plans on doing this by using a famous franchise?
Damn, the idea might even work due to alot of people playing Modern Warfare 2 (in my opinion it is a very sad excuse for a game). How he is gonna pull it off? Beats me, I see no way of making an actual MMO out of the CoD series.

Might sell anyways though, Modern Warfare 2 proved to us that a game doesn’t have to be good as long as you deliever marketing.

Over ‘N Out.

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Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:48:16 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188913@21
Good post
Stick around for goodness sake.
]]>By: reaskhttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188910
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:42:45 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188910You know guys on topic this could be good really.
The online play for me personally has become so much fun recently. (txs Giga).
I mean why not expand it?
Is that a bad thing really?
]]>By: NinjaMidgethttp://www.vg247.com/2010/06/19/kotick-would-like-to-create-an-online-world-for-call-of-duty/comment-page-1/#comment-188895
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:18:28 +0000http://www.vg247.com/?p=102804#comment-188895I’ve never seen the word fanboy been thrown about like this in a long time! lol

But anywho, I can’t quite understand how a MMORPG of COD would work, interesting but not entirely feasible.

While we’re on the subject of the grinning buffoon up there, I personally don’t agree with his way of conducting business. Yes he’s making craploads, but constantly rehashing the same old formula game like COD is repeditive and counter-productive to the industry, no matter how much it makes…I hope whoever is making Halo these days pays heed to this!