ST:TNGWhen ever there is a alien threat the first thing everyone does is go to the conference room !!Borg attack, they have a bit of a chin wag - just shoot 'em !

Maybe it's because I've actually seen the US Navy in action (not shooting action, but I've been on board active-duty ships & naval bases), but those scenes ring completely true for me. Well except for the part where an engineer says "if we just phase the gravitons to synchronize with the tachyon pulses we'll reverse time and cause your dinner to unburn itself". Those magical solutions from Geordi and Data always bugged me. Someone who saw some actual TNG scripts told me that they actually have [insert something technical here] or words to that effect in the working script in those places.

ST:TNGWhen ever there is a alien threat the first thing everyone does is go to the conference room !!Borg attack, they have a bit of a chin wag - just shoot 'em !

What I hated was that after all that, when a fight seems imminent, some BS deus-ex-machina solution comes along that allows them to resolve things peacefully. Whew! That was a close one. They almost had some real action. Aren't we all glad that was averted.

ST:TNGWhen ever there is a alien threat the first thing everyone does is go to the conference room !!Borg attack, they have a bit of a chin wag - just shoot 'em !

What I hated was that after all that, when a fight seems imminent, some BS deus-ex-machina solution comes along that allows them to resolve things peacefully. Whew! That was a close one. They almost had some real action. Aren't we all glad that was averted.

TNG at its most PC was painful to watch.

Only in the 80's would they have a counselor on the bridge

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The old ST great, TNG not so great ... I liked it but it got to much into a group hug near the end this idealist universe where there is no money and every one does there thing for the good of the collective it was like they were the borg without the hardwiring. Troi was just annoying, Riker annoying, I liked "Q" and his trial of humanity, but he wasn't on enough to hold me to the show. The Borg became redundant and boring or is that borging? However if they were to put Beverly Crusher in a Princess Lei outfit when she was with Jabba the Hut I would have watched more often. Dr Crusher was the hot one, not Troi.

SW's will parts I liked and other parts I didn't it got goofy in the last 3, first 3 what ever there were. Jar Jar Binks was the most unnecessary character ever. It didn't have the grit that the first 3 (IV, V, VI) had with Yoda hoping around like he was on space speed or something. I watched all of them a few weeks ago, and while parts were WOW that's cool! Many of them were "yeah, right... no even in space, Lucus." I think Lucus tried to make "The Force" to much of a character like it was in the opening credits... but hey he'd made more money than I have so who I'm I to criticize.

So I chose neither...Give me FarScape, Babylon 5, Firefly or even ST DS9 at least it was believable as far as emotions, greed, evil doers and personalities go.

Give me FarScape, Babylon 5, Firefly or even ST DS9 at least it was believable as far as emotions, greed, evil doers and personalities go.

I never got into DS9 that much, but I do agree that it was a little less naive in some ways. TNG got too infected with ol' Gene's PC, socialistlic, idealistic gobbledygook, and that managed to carry on longer than Gene himself. I will admit that currency does present something of a problem, when practically anything can be replicated. As a writer, you'd be pretty much stuck having either a degenerate society that gets whatever it wants for free, or a bunch of idealists willing do do almost any kind of work for personal satisfaction.

I will give DS9 credit for working around one part of the problem by coming up with non-replicatable latinum currency. But there is still the problem of what to spend it on. About the only thing wealth is good for is buying things that can't be replicated for one reason or another - slaves, real estate, really big things, certain substances. Or, like the Ferengi, possessing wealth primarily for the status wealth brings. But that gets back to the Roddenberry message of how evil and unenlightened it is to acquire wealth for its own sake (remember what a bunch of little rat bastards the Ferengi were in the beginning?).

For me its both the originals all the way. Although I did like enterpise a bit. The reason being is that Star Trek seems to lose its humanity in the next generation and voyager. As for star wars, well the originals were just better acted and writeen peroid.

I've seen the original Star Wars movies at least thirty times each. Star Trek is also really fun to watch, but I just prefer Star Wars. I do have Trekkie friends, but I'm the guy who carried a lightsaber on his belt during high school