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Oh! I love SHAFT (particularly what they did with PaniPoni, Zetsubou Sensei, ef, Arakawa and what they are doing with the Monogatari series), but these won't make me forget their very guilty past... turning REC into vanilla, the lolicon-fest called Goshujin-sama, both of Tsukuyomi season finales, and SoulEater shipped to THE moeblob studio to squeeze out the last yen out of it with Komugi... Shina Dark and Prism Nana are nothing compared to those let downs

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Originally Posted by MisaoFan

I'm pretty sure he meant the anime or so I am confused but you are right.

Still even genre/audience-wise, mahou shoujo (like AKB-whatever) is more appropriate for pachinko then Gundam... which is really pissing me off with its endless advertisements here

Oh! I love SHAFT (particularly what they did with PaniPoni, Zetsubou Sensei, ef, Arakawa and what they are doing with the Monogatari series), but these won't make me forget their very guilty past... turning REC into vanilla, the lolicon-fest called Goshujin-sama, both of Tsukuyomi season finales, and SoulEater shipped to THE moeblob studio to squeeze out the last yen out of it with Komugi... Shina Dark and Prism Nana are nothing compared to those let downs

In response to that:

1. Rec and Goshujin-sama were both titles that were done without Shinbou's involvement (with Goshujin-sama being a joint effort with Gainax);

2. It's Soultaker, not Soul Eater;

3. In terms of Soultaker, SHAFT wasn't involved in it, but Shinbou was, and even then he was only involved in the regular series, not the Komugi spin-off.

1. Rec and Goshujin-sama were both titles that were done without Shinbou's involvement (with Goshujin-sama being a joint effort with Gainax);

2. It's Soultaker, not Soul Eater;

3. In terms of Soultaker, SHAFT wasn't involved in it, but Shinbou was, and even then he was only involved in the regular series, not the Komugi spin-off.

I stand corrected on these pesky details which don't really change the point I was making

Oh! as for (3) that was my point... SoulEaterTaker was awesome, but then Shinbou/SHAFT shipped the franchise to KyoAni for moeblob-milking, as usual

Back to Nana, I am pretty sure that leaving all these rumors hover about an upcoming anime was definitely intentional (like Shina Dark), in order to get more people interested in the franchise, whether it eventually led into an anime or just more rip-off viral marketing. And let me be more clear that I don't blame the studio for planning it, but for submitting to those that did so... therefore the examples I gave... SHAFT suffers from the "we are a tiny studio with potential" syndrome, submitting to money, despite being able to stay true to its principles, GAINAX and KyoAni are other examples with different symptoms, but the same cause.

I stand corrected on these pesky details which don't really change the point I was making

Oh! as for (3) that was my point... SoulEaterTaker was awesome, but then Shinbou/SHAFT shipped the franchise to KyoAni for moeblob-milking, as usual

Back to Nana, I am pretty sure that leaving all these rumors hover about an upcoming anime was definitely intentional (like Shina Dark), in order to get more people interested in the franchise, whether it eventually led into an anime or just more rip-off viral marketing. And let me be more clear that I don't blame the studio for planning it, but for submitting to those that did so... therefore the examples I gave... SHAFT suffers from the "we are a tiny studio with potential" syndrome, submitting to money, despite being able to stay true to its principles, GAINAX and KyoAni are other examples with different symptoms, but the same cause.

With so much time and production going into making so many PV's and venues for this project, why don't they just make up their minds about what other potential plans they have for this series other than just a Pachinko game. From what I've read and seen it seems that an anime version of this is pretty much grim at this point. I'm still hopeful, but being cautiously optimistic at this point. That's pretty saddening because this has so much potential to be a really great anime series.

With so much time and production going into making so many PV's and venues for this project, why don't they just make up their minds about what other potential plans they have for this series other than just a Pachinko game. From what I've read and seen it seems that an anime version of this is pretty much grim at this point. I'm still hopeful, but being cautiously optimistic at this point. That's pretty saddening because this has so much potential to be a really great anime series.

I hate to break it to you but TV anime are advertisements for other products (manga, novels, toys, games, etc.), that only recently (yet rarely) can sustain themselves. Therefore the main concern of producers is to promote the main franchise efficiently and cheaply, not really caring about minor issues like plot, continuity, sequels, conclusion, etc. Now that said SHAFT is one the very few studios currently in a position to have some creative freedom (thanks to Monogatari and Madoka), but they don't seem interested at all in Nana... the way they treated it looks more like experimenting while getting paid for it.

they don't seem interested at all in Nana... the way they treated it looks more like experimenting while getting paid for it.

But that's exactly what they were paid to do: to create 7 PVs for the game all on their own, exercising their own creativity. That doesn't mean they "aren't interested"... but it's a sort of art experiment.

Whether it becomes a real anime isn't really up to SHAFT to decide on their own. It depends on whether a production committee is formed that wants to fund it. Time will tell.

But that's exactly what they were paid to do: to create 7 PVs for the game all on their own, exercising their own creativity. That doesn't mean they "aren't interested"... but it's a sort of art experiment.

Whether it becomes a real anime isn't really up to SHAFT to decide on their own. It depends on whether a production committee is formed that wants to fund it. Time will tell.

Indeed, as I wrote... like Shina Dark

But let me revise a little your optimistic assumptions, it's not up to SHAFT, rather the suites that will pay them for an even more expensive advertisement of their legal gambling franchise... also Nana wasn't a typical SHAFT creativity example, but the studio experimenting with different (and potentially new) collaborators