There's a picture of the Macarthur Elan on P376 of John Medley's Bathurst book, this is from the '68 Easter Bathurst, so about six months after the 12-hour in question...

It shows the car to be lighter in colour and to have less apparent contrast in tone between the body colour and the front bumper. Moreover, the number roundel on the bonnet is in the centre, unlike the Gates car's offset to the right, these positionings are consistent in other pictures of these cars.

Originally posted by ellrossoFew more shots of '67 12 hour - all shots are oldracephotos/Stuart Phillips

That's obviously the Macarthur car (with Doug driving, he had glasses), and quite definitely it shows it to be different to the car in the original picture... those driving lights that are covered up at the front would be visible if they were there on the Gates car.

Ann Thompson, I think, drove in the first 12-hour with Glynn Scott in an E-type. I can't find any mention of her in the later renditions of the race.

Phew, once again TNF sets the record staright! I also appreciate the comments about owners who raced at their own tracks. Though I phrased it poorly, I actually meant to enquire about others who, like Keith Williams, built a track then decided to try their hand at racing, rather than the other way round. That would reduce the numbers somewhat, I believe.

By the way, as Lee included speedway racers/promoters, I should add speedcar driver Bill Goode's name as he later became promoter at Brisbane Exhibition Grounds, IIRC.

To end, as I first posted on this subject, on a (falsetto) musical note, he was also the promoter of a concert where the Gibb brothers first performed as a band whose name was derived from his and the two other BG-initialled men I mentioned in my first post, so there!

I'm not sure where Keith Williams stood prior to building the Surfers Paradise circuit...

From a comment Sid Sakzewski once made I inferred that Keith was around motor racing way back even before Lakeside. I don't know if he competed or he was simply just there. Perhaps in a committee role?

He certainly had enthusiasm, as his plan was to build a motor sport complex in or near each capital city.

The OP and your 12-hour pix reminded me that Keith Williams raced a HK? Monaro a couple of times including the 1968 12-hour. IIRC.

I wonder if any other racetrack owners/promoters have actually competed at their own track?

John Tetley keeps a some collection of cars at Queensland Raceway and semi-regularly tkaes one out for a run, as do some members of QR staff, mostly in Formula Fords, although one of the weider cars I've seen John drive is a Mazda Rotary powered PRS.

The team cars were desecrated when they went to Castrol colours in '65. Cusack's Brabham and Lotus 23, Muir's Holden... the latter having been the most spectacularly good looking car in Torreador Red with the green across the front.

Nice shots Wolseley680 - always good to see some fresh colour from that era, particularly the Cusack car - great shot. Nice 6/80 too - my old man was a Wolseley fan. We had a 24/80 from new in 1962 till my mother stopped driving in the early 90's. He also had a 1500 for driving to work (2 actually - 1 for parts) which he bought 2nd hand from a little old lady in Glenorchy (who's surname was Sweet - no kidding!) with about 27,000 original miles on it - would have been about 1970, 71. I used to drive it at weekends when I first got my licence - took out the rear seat to slide the surfboards in thru the boot. My girlfriend at the time had a black 1500 - good for the odd race from Lindisfarne to Rosny Point! Quite a few Austin Lancers of the same shape down in Tassy as well back then.

Thanks for the nice words, and as you can tell, I'm keen on Wolseleys. Racing cars at that Tasman meeting were amongst the last not to have wings, and were the better for it. Cusack's Brabham was a BT23, one of the prettier ones, the subsequent shovel noses and lobster claw things might have been quicker but not better looking. This was my first attempt with colour film, it was quite expensive with the develop and print costs to a baggy arse soldier like me at the time, I didn't even own the camera, I borrowed if from another guy in the tent we shared. I've got a few b/w photos from the same track at a Gold Star meeting - taken with the same camera, I'll post some soon.

There's a photo of that somewhere here on this forum... or maybe a link to one...

Here's one:

Here's how it's done, Terry:

That must surely be the only photo in existence of the 6/80... we used it, of course, in my story about Barry and his cars in Motor Racing Australia and I'm sure it's been posted on here before somewhere. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe I've seen your webpage before?

I think it's a Lance J Ruting photo, isn't it? Though I don't remember Lance Needs ever being just across the track from us there to take his pics.

Scanner died, apologies for delay. Here's another shot from the 68 Tasman meeting at Surfers Paradise, the Ferrari P4 which I read somewhere David McKay paid $30,000 for, ran it in the Tasman and the Easter meeting at Bathurst (where it went down the old Conrod at 181mph) and then sold it to Paul Hawkins for $30,000 and went to South Africa.

He also drove it at Warwick Farm and a couple of other meetings. Lovely car to have here, even if the duration of its stay was way too short. And the dices between Chris Amon and Frank Matich were fantastic!

The truck clearly shows the connection between Greg Cusack and SV at that time.

Just a word on Scanners,i found out the hard way,some brands won't turn on or not be seen by the OS if the drivers don't load,i had this trouble when Vista was first released,its just a matter of reloading drivers,worth a try before you chuck it.

Just a word on Scanners,i found out the hard way,some brands won't turn on or not be seen by the OS if the drivers don't load,i had this trouble when Vista was first released,its just a matter of reloading drivers,worth a try before you chuck it.

Ian, thanks for your comment and believe me, I'm not the first to chuck stuff however in this case, I was too careful. I had a multifunction Epson that was 5yrs old and was getting harder to fire up so I had resorted to leaving it on until one day it just kept telling me of some error. So my daughter paid for one of those geeks2u to come out on a wifi hassle I was having (which he fixed) but I asked him about the Epson and he simply said "not worth looking at, buy another" but silly me got a printer guy out (cost $100) who identified a part failure which he subsequently advised me was no longer available. So I then bought another Epson (as recommended) which was unused, but through eBay - cost $100. I'm learning.

Ian, thanks for your comment and believe me, I'm not the first to chuck stuff however in this case, I was too careful. I had a multifunction Epson that was 5yrs old and was getting harder to fire up so I had resorted to leaving it on until one day it just kept telling me of some error. So my daughter paid for one of those geeks2u to come out on a wifi hassle I was having (which he fixed) but I asked him about the Epson and he simply said "not worth looking at, buy another" but silly me got a printer guy out (cost $100) who identified a part failure which he subsequently advised me was no longer available. So I then bought another Epson (as recommended) which was unused, but through eBay - cost $100. I'm learning.

No worries,i just thought i would mention it.It happened to a neighbour only a couple of Months ago,he purchased one of those Aldi flat bed stand-alone models,after nearly 6 Months usage it suddenly wouldn't turn on.After he spent a couple of hours on a Aldi help line going nowhere he asked if i could have a look,i told him about the driver issue,he reloaded them from the CD & presto all good again.Epson was the market leader in printers/scanners but i've found Canon scanners the best,the Software is written by a team in Melbourne and give little trouble.

No worries,i just thought i would mention it.It happened to a neighbour only a couple of Months ago,he purchased one of those Aldi flat bed stand-alone models,after nearly 6 Months usage it suddenly wouldn't turn on.After he spent a couple of hours on a Aldi help line going nowhere he asked if i could have a look,i told him about the driver issue,he reloaded them from the CD & presto all good again.Epson was the market leader in printers/scanners but i've found Canon scanners the best,the Software is written by a team in Melbourne and give little trouble.

I think everyone has found out all this lovely cheap office equipment can be a real pain. I have never had a scanner die yet but the printer and fax functions I am up to I think 7 now in seven years. On nameless brand kept on replacing them about monthly until they upgraded me to a better model that can still be a pain as it is slow. But eventually always does the job,, though occasionally needs to be turned off, given a cup of tea and a Bex and restarted to go on for a few more months! And I only use it about once a day!

Scanners sometimes do have issues with a newer OS. But a far more prevalent issue is they are wired through a hub, and/or is too many devices are turned on at the same time when through a hub. This happens to me all the time.

The first thing I'd try is to turn off all your peripheral devices, and hard wire your scanner directly to your computer. Turn only the scanner back on, leave it on, and re-start your computer. It will more than likely work upon re-boot.

One of my old Epsons that I only use on flat art now — a 2470 — still works fine on a four-year old OS, thought it's running nearly 11 year-old software. When it doesn't want to boot, I do the above. Works every time.

In general, when buying a scanner, factor in how many images you ultimately want to do, how high of quality you want, and how long you spend on each file. What you'll likely find is it's worth it to buy one you previously thought was "too expensive." In the end, how much are your life's best memories, and your time, worth to you? (I learned this the hard way and had to re-scan over 2,500 files)