In fact 0.844x$500 = $422 *1.19 (VAT) = $502 which is roughly 360 EUR to my place. Why should I buy from you at higher price and god knows the actual condition. There are a lot drawbacks:1) limited or no warranty compared to buying from bitmain2) 40 Euro on top of the price3) probably used since I can't imagine anyone getting new hardware and not plugging in

In fact 0.844x$500 = $422 *1.19 (VAT) = $502 which is roughly 360 EUR to my place. Why should I buy from you at higher price and god knows the actual condition. There are a lot drawbacks:1) limited or no warranty compared to buying from bitmain2) 40 Euro on top of the price3) probably used since I can't imagine anyone getting new hardware and not plugging in

just my 2 cents....

Hey i´m really tired seeing ppl like you spamming sellers posts

1º - If you buy from china you have Customs handling charges

2º - You will have to pay VAT

3º - If your order goes to inspection in customs you may or maybe not get over it, beside they don´t have power supply with them they can ask you what´s the purpose of the order and also documents regarding electronic components

4º - When you work to have something or sell something you expect to have profit, or are you a slave ??

5º - When you have problems with orders from china you must send defective items to china, please ask some courier the costs to send items there, not to mention the time wasted

Sorry to be kind of rude on this but really, seller is making a fair price in my opinion even lower than it should be, and you come here just to spam and give negative feedback on him, if you don´t agree with price just let it be, or say "if you go down on price i may buy" not just come with some bla bla bla child stuff

In fact 0.844x$500 = $422 *1.19 (VAT) = $502 which is roughly 360 EUR to my place. Why should I buy from you at higher price and god knows the actual condition. There are a lot drawbacks:1) limited or no warranty compared to buying from bitmain2) 40 Euro on top of the price3) probably used since I can't imagine anyone getting new hardware and not plugging in

just my 2 cents....

Hey i´m really tired seeing ppl like you spamming sellers posts

1º - If you buy from china you have Customs handling charges

2º - You will have to pay VAT

3º - If your order goes to inspection in customs you may or maybe not get over it, beside they don´t have power supply with them they can ask you what´s the purpose of the order and also documents regarding electronic components

4º - When you work to have something or sell something you expect to have profit, or are you a slave ??

5º - When you have problems with orders from china you must send defective items to china, please ask some courier the costs to send items there, not to mention the time wasted

Sorry to be kind of rude on this but really, seller is making a fair price in my opinion even lower than it should be, and you come here just to spam and give negative feedback on him, if you don´t agree with price just let it be, or say "if you go down on price i may buy" not just come with some bla bla bla child stuff

He isn't spamming anyone. Why let people on this board get ripped off when a better cheaper alternative is available? People already pay too much for mining gear and that fuels the overpriced hardware. He actually asked why should I buy from you...? Very valid point. It is not our fault someone got a bad deal and is trying to pass the buck. No offense and EU has strange rules VAT, customs, whatever that I am not aware of so it could be a good deal for all I know and best of luck to OP.

Actually I've been there (I have imported more than 10 ants from china) and I all I can say that it is NOT that hard as you present it.First there is no such thing as "customs handling charge". In my country (in EU) you have to present customs declaration. You can pay $10 to customs to make it for you OR if you know how to do it properly you can do it yourselfSecond - paying VAT - this is the most easiest thing ever. Just go to any bank with the documents above and they do the math and tell you how much to pay. Here is 20%.Third - customs inspection - even if they decide to inspect it they will see the actual electronics inside - a fan, 2 boards, cooling etc. all electronic stuff.Fourth - reseller - you are not official reseller, so you have to make your margin on top of their price. Good luck with that! Not to mention that if you really bought 300 of those bitmain made you an discount.Fifth - again you are not official reseller and I highly doubt that you will cover warranty period.

When item arrives in customs it usually takes me 1-2 hours to get from customs depending if they want to inspect it or not.So the actual price I pay is:0.844 BTC20% if that in USD (last time bitmain declare it as $300)some cash for fuel

Tired of people trying to make business by ripping off others.There is saying that once you get the product outside the store, its price falls by 20% if you want to resell it.

Actually I've been there (I have imported more than 10 ants from china) and I all I can say that it is NOT that hard as you present it.First there is no such thing as "customs handling charge". In my country (in EU) you have to present customs declaration. You can pay $10 to customs to make it for you OR if you know how to do it properly you can do it yourselfSecond - paying VAT - this is the most easiest thing ever. Just go to any bank with the documents above and they do the math and tell you how much to pay. Here is 20%.Third - customs inspection - even if they decide to inspect it they will see the actual electronics inside - a fan, 2 boards, cooling etc. all electronic stuff.Fourth - reseller - you are not official reseller, so you have to make your margin on top of their price. Good luck with that! Not to mention that if you really bought 300 of those bitmain made you an discount.Fifth - again you are not official reseller and I highly doubt that you will cover warranty period.

When item arrives in customs it usually takes me 1-2 hours to get from customs depending if they want to inspect it or not.So the actual price I pay is:0.844 BTC20% if that in USD (last time bitmain declare it as $300)some cash for fuel

Tired of people trying to make business by ripping off others.There is saying that once you get the product outside the store, its price falls by 20% if you want to resell it.

Are you talking about Europe ? Or USa ? Because you keep mentioning usd

In all my orders from china here in my country we pay customs handling, beside that we pay the VAT

Sometimes is really easy to receive the order other times its not so easy if they ask you for documents like payment details and electronic devices certifications, since the Ants dont have power supply is easier to pass anyway you may have still your order stopped for a few days

When someones makes and investment it´s normal to expect some profit

Beside he´s not official resseler he can still give warranty on his products, that´s his choice

Internet and foruns are flooded with good and bad business that´s your choice to buy or not, there´s no need of going to all posts and spam them saying that mine is bigger than yours