Re: White Collar (USA)

Originally Posted by razorbacker

I think Seagel may have been more along the criminal lines & he was going to find a way to work a big score with Neal.

I'd thought of that too, that perhaps Siegel was even involved with Hagen and that Hagen offed him. In any case, they really have to flip the script somehow so that Neal does not end up feeling responsible for Siegel's death. Where he was found and why has to have nothing to do with Neal meeting Hagen there.

Re: White Collar (USA)

Originally Posted by Florimel

Neat analysis, Tilden. I've suspected that there was something more to the appointment of Siegel as Neal's handler almost from the start. What you propose could certainly be true and would make a good story, I think. I just would not want to see Peter, Neal, or Mozzie in jail unless it was a short time for them to uncover something major as Ellen did in the past.

I think it has to work out that way--not necessarily the way I supposed but so that Neal, Peter, and/or Mozzie are not held responsible for Siegel's death. It also would seem a little coincidental for Siegel to bring up his wealth, his realization that the people around him were just wealthier criminals, his losing his wife over going from a wealthy heir to an FBI agent etc. right before he gets shot down. And it is White Collar, so they need a white collar criminal to pursue, and I don't think they've done enough further development of Hagen for it to be just him.

And yeah, it felt to me all along that there was more to the new handler than was being said, and honestly, this is a show where there's always some kind of mystery/conspiracy going on, other than just the ones in Mozzie's head, so things are rarely ever what they seem. For that matter, the mystery usually goes for at least a the season, so they have to be setting something up they can follow through on for a while.

Re: White Collar (USA)

Is it just me wearing my mystery solver's hat or does anyone else think that Neal's new love will turn out to be an evil character, maybe even aligned with Hagen? She has pushed herself way further in the investigation than her job and lifestyle would seem to support. She seem to have no fear of getting involved in their activities which rings false to me.

I would think that Neal and Mozzie would be more suspicious of her, but Neal's big weakness is his attraction to the wrong women. I suppose Mozzie doesn't want to push it so that he won't alienate Neal.

Re: White Collar (USA)

Originally Posted by buglover

I didn't trust her I'm an innocent young lady act at all. From the beginning I felt like she was in on the plot to use Neal.

Agree! Have not trusted her from the beginning. Can't wait for her story arc to complete. I have enjoyed most (if not all) of the past ladies, and am surprised that I have no trust in her whatsoever. She feels insincere and am already looking forward to her absence from the show. I'm with you and Florimel on this.

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Count me in as distrusting her motives as well. She has been way to eager to help and she has shown up at the most unusual times.
I didn't catch her motives at first but during the last episode, my investigating hat blinked a bright yellow caution warning.

Re: White Collar (USA)

I agree that she's fishy, but I'm curious to know what her angle is. I'm guessing that she doesn't work for Hagen, and there's another party that's interested in the codex for some reason. I could be wrong, but it would make things more interesting if I'm right.