Fordy wrote; "Not really, as the issue is a legal question, not a biological question.

Kinda hard to separate the two, Fordy. Then there's the emotional factor..To a mother, it's a baby as soon as those little strips say "yes, you're pregnant". (they still don't use rabbits?)To a doctor or scientist it's a parasitic blob until it can live outside the womb. To the father, or grandparents it's a baby after its' first howl after being thrust into the cold world. To a lawyer it's whatever gets the most billable hours.To a politician it's whatever gets the most votes..

I am of the opinion that a definition can and should be found that will address the problem accurately. Words matter, which is something some progressives would like to change permanently.

Which just dumbs down society and allows the nefarious to get away with preying on the innocent.

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

It doesn't cover the gore and mayhem caused by horrific methods of termination - that's why.

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

BrookeBwevBJMacNoDoubt: You want the title of the crime to reflect what was done. That's an emotional response and, as Fordama correctly points out, might lead to prosecution problems.So long as the punishment is appropriate, who cares what it is called?

Tsk tsk, emotional says RP. Get rid of your username and signature and then you might have some clout around here. Until then you have no credibility.

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

BrookeBevBJMacNoDoubt: Given that I deal with the law all of the time, I am aware of the deficiencies in the statutes and how to exploit loopholes. So long as the punishment is appropriate, who cares what the crime is called? You have yet to answer that question other than on an emotional basis.PS You are not being friendly. The owner has asked us to be. I am willing to extend my hand in friendliness. Are you?

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

As I just posted on another thread. If you are sincere. You can easily change your labels and prove your substance. My username and signature do not insult anyone especially the native population of the USA.

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

Who in their right mind uses a welcome sign to mean people who would come into their home uninvited, paid by their neighbors who are using their illegal labor, overrun the neighborhood, and refuse to leave?

I don't need to say"Uncle." You have already said "Bye" to me two or three times. However, you continue to engage. I wonder what that is all about. Try being friendly. It might be an unfamiliar feeling to you, but I think you will like it.