/especially after the media has been using it for decades to train a population to simply accept the judgment of their superiors//it was supposed to be a weapon to spread socialism worldwide, not one to spread Islam///but the funny thing about ideological weapons is that they're made of words, and so with words they can be turned back upon their creators

I don't get it. He agrees to do a criminal act. he has intent to do a criminal act. he's admitted to being willing to do a criminal act. And yet, he can't be arrested/tried, because he didn't actually DO a criminal act.

Why isn't that logic applied to those folks pulling into the driveways of 14 year old girls in Police Sting operations?

graeylin:I don't get it. He agrees to do a criminal act. he has intent to do a criminal act. he's admitted to being willing to do a criminal act. And yet, he can't be arrested/tried, because he didn't actually DO a criminal act.

Why isn't that logic applied to those folks pulling into the driveways of 14 year old girls in Police Sting operations?

It is, but the step required to move from mere contemplation into attempt varies by jurisdiction, and there are different doctrines. For example, in some jurisdictions, you need to commit the last step before the act is complete to be convicted for attempt - e.g. pull the trigger while pointing your gun at the guy for attempted murder. In other jurisdictions, you need to be in "dangerous proximity" of committing the act - e.g. having the loaded gun in hand while saying you're going to kill the guy for attempted murder. In still other jurisdictions, you must have completed a "substantial step" - e.g. bought a gun, tracked down where the guy will be, with intent to go and kill him.

Showing up in the driveway of the 14 year old girl is a substantial step (and may be considered to be in 'dangerous proximity') for statutory rape. Merely saying "gosh, I'd like to bugger a 14 year old" isn't.

jso2897:I see they've been studying their spiritual brethren, the Christians.It's amazing how similar the Muzzies and the Christers are - and how different they THINK they are.

Hell, one or two tiny differences between christian cultists can result in religion-fueled murders for years, much less other religions.

What surprises me is that anyone can deny that the primary impact of organized religions (and not simply a belief in a higher power) is retarding the progress of all mankind as a whole. It has always been that way, it continues to be that way. Luckily religions seem to be shrinking both in size and scope while atheist populations are rising, so we may eventually throw off these shackles, but gosh it's been a long, painful journey.