ince Saddam is in the news again, I get the urge to hear the
whole story. I wonder what the other side is thinking. What we
receive in this country is the administration's view and the
president's remarks. It seems that no person thinks he does
anything wrong. Everyone makes up good reasons for what they do.
Even Adolph Hitler could explain his abuses of power. We are
well adapted to doing that in this country also. Smooth rhetoric
or demonization tends to sway the citizens into accepting almost
anything. Because of this, I have taken the liberty of calling
up Saddam on the phone and asking him some questions, just to
get his point of view, you understand. Oh, yes, it's not a real
interview. I had to pretend I called him. Anyway, in my mind's
eye I had a conversation with him and I thought I would share it
with our readers. The conversation was formed out of bits and
pieces along with one-liners that slip into the main media
regarding the perceptions and conclusions of the Iraqis. The
main media do not let you dwell on it long, however, since it
soon has you all awash in all of the normal political propaganda
again. I think this is true for most countries. So, here is the
author's perceptions after wading though hundreds of reports on
the subject. Some of the answers are actual quotes and some are
answers given by other Middle Eastern figures. Some are answers
given by our own national figures and turned around to see what
they sound like coming from Saddam.

It has been said, "don't judge a man until you have walked a
mile in his shoes." It may also be said, "don't make war against
a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes." Perhaps this
"interview" will help us walk a little way in the shoes of the
Iraqis.

The WINDS: Mr. Hussein, how are you today?

SADDAM: Allah is good.

The WINDS: Mr. Hussein, I have a few questions for you. I was
wondering if you would answer them.

SADDAM: I would be happy to. I want to be a voice of integrity,
persuasion and courage, seeking peace at this time.

The WINDS: We would like to know your general outlook of your
most recent situation with the U.N.

SADDAM: Our people need to steel ourselves and be determined.
It's too dangerous an issue and too powerful a precedent for the
nation of Iraq to show itself completely impotent if we do not
proceed on this. It is a shocking thing for the U.S. to make
women and children feel that they must protect their president
from evil forces without the country. We must not be deterred
with threats of violence against our people.

The WINDS: You see this then as a personal national issue?

SADDAM: It is not only a personal issue. I do not say this to
frighten you, but I am calling on every responsible world leader
to join with me in stopping the threat posed by the U.S.
Fundamentally, what is at stake with the U.S. is the battle
against organized forces of destruction. We must look at this
issue and think of it in terms of the innocent Japanese people
who died in the subway when the Sarin gas was released. The U.S.
is the world's largest depository of weapons of mass destruction
and they are able at any time to unleash their violence on
innocent people anywhere in the world.

The WINDS: We have noticed recently that you have seriously
challenged the Americans in regards to the inspection of weapons
of mass destruction in your own country.

SADDAM: Yes, Iraq and its allies must be resolute in resisting
the Clinton regime's aggression against our sovereign nations.
We are hoping that the Americans will see the light and
overthrow their dictator, but it seems other and more serious
measures must be taken.

The WINDS: What about your weapons of mass destruction? You have
made yourself a pariah in the world, you know. Our president
says he wants to keep the weapons of mass destruction out of the
wrong hands.

SADDAM: That's how the Western news portrays it. Actually, we
received most of those weapons from the U.S. during our war with
Iran. We were somewhat surprised at the sophistication of the
American arsenal and we feared a nation as strong as the U.S.
with so many weapons of mass destruction. We felt that it should
not be trusted. Because of this, we tried to perfect our own
weapons. A nation such as the U.S., with that much destructive
power, must be afraid of something or must want to rule over the
entire earth and we want to be able to protect our interests in
this matter. As far as the "wrong hands" goes, I think that
applies to the Clinton regime. It is he who is doing the
destroying and I think if they are in anybody's hands, they
should not be in his. To judge who has the weapons of mass
destruction, one only needs to look at the war we had here.

The WINDS: We were told you used some gas against Iran and you
killed some of them with it.

SADDAM: We used some of the gas we got from America. America has
used gas in its wars also. The Clinton regime even uses gas
against its own people and it does not seem to differentiate
between military and civilian use. He has even used it against
children. Actually, the U.S. has more weapons of mass
destruction and more gas than any nation on earth.

The WINDS: We have heard that you will shoot at American spy
planes if they fly over.

SADDAM: Yes, that's correct. Our nation is united on this. It is
not a matter of the Clinton regime flying over Iraq. It is that
we understand the dictator's true purposes. Clinton wants to use
his weapons of mass destruction against our women and children
to make the people want to get rid of me. His greatest weapon of
mass destruction at present is the use of sanctions. With his
siege against our country, hundreds and thousands of our little
children have died and all it does is make the people love me
more and hate him more. The Clinton regime blames me for their
hunger, but that is so ridiculous. Would Americans like us to
starve them because we do not like their president and then
blame their president for starving them? The U-2 is not used to
find stores of secret weapons. It is used as a tool of
humiliation. We cannot even control our own skies. The Americans
love to flaunt their power over us.

The WINDS: Is that why your people want to act as a shield for
you?

SADDAM: Yes, that's right. Clinton wants to tell folks that the
people are made to do that. They love me because Clinton has
made them hungry. In this way they show solidarity against the
evil, totalitarian Clinton regime.

The WINDS: You call Clinton a dictator. Don't you know we
elected him?

SADDAM: Yes, I know that. I was elected in Iraq also. Being a
dictator does not rule out an election. Most dictators have been
elected one way or another. Clinton is most definitely a
dictator and a ruthless one at that. A dictator is one who
dictates and forces his will upon others. This is what Clinton
does in regards to nations everywhere.

The WINDS: We have been told that you have killed some of your
adversaries. Even the Kurds have suffered under your attacks.

SADDAM: We have tried to establish some sort of order in our
country since we were attacked by the Clinton regime. In your
own country, did you not have a war between the states? Millions
of your citizens died in that war, didn't they? And speaking of
atrocities, I cannot think of a single incident where we have
been as violent as the Clinton regime has been against
dissidents. I speak of what happened at Waco. Yes, we have heard
about that.

The WINDS: You were attacked because you invaded the small,
helpless country of Kuwait. Why did you do that? There were some
rapes also, and, in some cases, your soldiers tortured
civilians.

SADDAM: First of all, you may want to remember Vietnam. In war
sometimes one cannot restrain everyone and make all of the
military nice people. Remember the My Lai massacre? Your own
soldiers massacred a whole village of innocent civilians, raping
as they went. Your soldiers also tortured, even throwing some of
your enemies from planes.

The WINDS: Well, what about your invasion of Kuwait?

SADDAM: Our invasion of Kuwait was not as your invasion of
Vietnam. Vietnam was never considered your country. Kuwait used
to be part of Iraq until it was partitioned by the West. We see
ourselves simply wanting to take back what belongs to us. If
Canada came and partitioned off Alaska, wouldn't you want to get
it back? Besides all of that, we approached the U.S. about
getting it back and the U.S. did not express any objection until
we made our move. I think we were simply set up for an
embarrassment.

The WINDS: Why do you think the U.S. would want to embarrass
you?

SADDAM: The Moslem world has been united for centuries. The
entire Middle East was Moslem. When the Jews wanted to take back
the territory once occupied by them, the West, along with the
power of the U.N., arranged that. Many Moslems were displaced.
This caused a united animosity among the Arab and Moslem states
toward the West. By setting Iraq up as an especially evil empire
(we are no more evil than America), the Americans managed to
divide our once united people. This weakened us and gave power
to the U.S. to do just about anything it wants over here. The
U.S. interest is not money only, but religious and moral.

The WINDS: What do you mean?

SADDAM: Well, the great Satan intends to break down the morals
of our religion. The West wants our women to be like your women.
You call immorality freedom but we call it immorality. You in
the West make fun of us because our women are covered.
Concerning the religion aspect, the West generally embraces a
Jewish Christian religion. You view us as enemies or, at best,
second class. The West is working to break down our traditional
religion. Our people suffer everywhere. Does not your freedom of
religion include Moslem also?

The WINDS: Moslems have freedom of religion in the West.

SADDAM: Yes, that is true, but there is persecution. It is not
overt persecution, generally, but covert. Your country destroys
the morals of people through your media and movies. You have
turned your whole society into cold, heartless people.
Seventy-five per cent of your people want to bomb us into
submission (even though they deny that) and we have done nothing
to them. This is the demoralization and persecution I speak of.
Your nation's persecution of us is a hate crime you speak so
much about. You have made us the devil, but we have done nothing
to you. Your ruler, Clinton, is guilty of hate crimes against
humanity and no suffering deters him from his purpose.

The WINDS: Why do you call the U.S. the great Satan? We take
exception to that.

SADDAM: The word Satan means adversary. We believe the U.S. to
be the great adversary. If you were Moslem and lived in Iraq,
wouldn't you believe that the U.S. was your greatest adversary?

The WINDS: Getting back to the current news, you keep saying
Clinton when it is the united efforts of all the nations who
oppose you. So why did you expel the U.N. observers? You sent
them out of your country and made them drive ten hours. It made
them very tired. We were told by the news media and the
president that they were just about to find something.

SADDAM: Nonsense! That is not what is happening at all. I must
say I cannot dredge up much sympathy for the U.N. observers. We
have hundreds of thousands of little ones starving to death and
the U.N. inspectors are tired. Poor boys. It reminds me of the
French revolution where those who beheaded thousands claimed
their arms were getting sore. Those inspectors have been in our
country for six years. They have flown planes over us, driven
cars down all of our roads, found whatever they wanted and
destroyed whatever they wanted. You mean to say that in six
years they cannot find some hidden stash? No, what they want is
to drag us down so that we are simply an impotent, groveling
bunch of desert dwellers. They want our minds and souls, so they
linger, continuing to make up things to look for until they
suppose the nation will rise up and throw their president out.
Then they will be in full control of whomever is elected since
they will arrange for that. No, death with dignity is better
than life under the heel of an immoral American regime. In
regards to the U.N., it is only force, make-believe and money
that has made this coalition of nations come against us. America
threatens and twists arms and anything else it can do to get
agreement. The U.N. coalition is a joke from our point of view.

The WINDS: Is that why you have taken this stand?

SADDAM: Yes, that is why.

The WINDS: Do you think you can win against such a powerful
country as the U.S.?

SADDAM: Allah knows. I have watched your country's methods. Even
with that little event in Waco, there are clues. First, there is
the attack. Next, there is a long siege. Finally, there is the
holocaust. I think that is what the Clinton regime wants now. He
wants to make a holocaust of us. He wants to make us an example
to any Middle Eastern nation or Moslem that dares to confront
him.

The WINDS: Do you really think those are his motives?

SADDAM: Yes. Your ruler is a proud, arrogant man. Allah will
humble him sooner or later. Iraq is not seeking a confrontation,
but if others decide another way than dialogue, they will be
fully responsible. If Clinton would just cease his saber
rattling, we might make some progress.

The WINDS: Thank you for speaking with us, Saddam.

SADDAM: My pleasure.
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