At the moment, I can't add a particular excellent Ven. Thanissaro quote. I will offer this: I had the privilege to visit Wat Metta outside San Diego a time or two. On my first visit, I spoke with Ven. Thanissaro very briefly, as I had spent some time in Thailand, and greeted him initially in Thai. In any case, he presents as a combination of university dean, scholar/monk, and strict parent to the young monks and novices in his sangha. He's pleasant, but serious. The word "gravitas" comes to mind...this man defines gravitas. ("Gravitas was one of the Roman virtues, along with pietas, dignitas and virtus. It may be translated variously as weight, seriousness and dignity, also importance, and connotes a certain substance or depth of personality.")

Over time, as I hung out with some of the younger Bhikkhus (that's a story in an of itself...what an excellent group of young men), I felt as though Ven. Thanissaro opened up a bit, and listened in on our conversations about Dhamma, and even a discussion about Dhamma as it is discussed on this site. Again, gravitas. He's just such a compelling person to be around.

In any case, I was just one of many visitors to Wat Metta, and he was busy with other matters. People come and go to Wat Metta. A bit later in the day, after I had observed him with his serious demeanor, and his scholarly approach to discussing matters of interest, I went into the Sala to sit and do prostrations. There was Ajaan Thanissaro, sitting on the floor with some of the Thai folk from around San Diego that came to Wat Metta to help assemble a Thai calendar. Sitting with the Thai members of the community, he seemed a different man...smiling broadly, speaking in Thai, and joyfully helping assemble the calendars. I understood that this great man, this man of such scholarship, such gravitas, such merit, was happiest sitting with his beloved Thai people. I left Wat Metta that day believing him to be one of the most interesting and outstanding people I've ever met.

I also left that day with huge box of his books...a gift from Ven. Thanissaro to my farang Bhikkhu friends and their English Dhamma book library at Wat Sri Boen Ruang in Chiang Mai. Every book that he publishes, every single book, is freely given. http://www.watmetta.org

++++++++++++++++This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.People live in one another’s shelter.

Thanissaro Bhikkhu wrote:The Buddha said at one point one of the ideal features of a Dharma teacher is not to expect material reward for the teaching. He never said that the Dharma is priceless. That's another misinformed phrase you hear a lot in dana talks. What he did say was that the teacher should not expect material reward. In other words, the teaching of Dharma should be a gift. When it's given as a gift, people receive it as a gift.http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... alks_3.pdfFrom: The Freedom to Give by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"Some people complain about the Buddha’s teachings on past lives and future lives, thatthey’re a distraction from the present, but when he talks about past lives andfuture lives he keeps coming down to the principle of kamma: that all the past,all the future—everything—is shaped by your choices.

Okay, what choices are you responsible for right now? The ones in the present moment. He gives youthe teachings on what shapes the past and future in order to bring you back tothe present with an even greater sense of its importance." - Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

Monk, whatever one stays obsessed with, that's what one is measured by (or: limited to). Whatever one is measured by, that's how one is classified. Whatever one doesn't stay obsessed with, that's not what one is measured by. Whatever one isn't measured by, that's not how one is classified.

Monk, whatever one stays obsessed with, that's what one is measured by (or: limited to). Whatever one is measured by, that's how one is classified. Whatever one doesn't stay obsessed with, that's not what one is measured by. Whatever one isn't measured by, that's not how one is classified.

"The practice of the Buddha’s teaching can been called the serious pursuit oftrue happiness, with the emphasis on the serious and the true. Serious not in thesense of grim but in the sense of sincere, unwilling to settle for anything less thangenuine.

True here means a happiness that doesn’t change, a happiness thatdoesn’t let you down. This is why so many of the Buddha’s teachings focus on suffering, because most of the happiness—or the things that we take for happinessin daily life—really do end up causing suffering as they change. So many times thehappiness we gain turns into something else."- Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

"Throughout its history, Buddhism has worked as a civilizing force. Its teachings on karma, for instance — the principle that all intentional actions have consequences — have taught morality and compassion to many societies. But on a deeper level, Buddhism has always straddled the line between civilization and wilderness. The Buddha himself gained Awakening in a forest, gave his first sermon in a forest, and passed away in a forest.

The qualities of mind he needed in order to survive physically and mentally as he went, unarmed, into the wilds, were key to his discovery of the Dhamma. They included resilience, resolve, and alertness; self-honesty and circumspection; steadfastness in the face of loneliness; courage and ingenuity in the face of external dangers; compassion and respect for the other inhabitants of the forest. These qualities formed the "home culture" of the Dhamma." - Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

"One of Ajaan Mun’s favorite topics for a Dhamma talk was the theme of practicing the Dhamma in accordance with the Dhamma—in other words, in accordance with what the Dhamma demands, not in accordance with what our likes and dislikes demand.

As the Dhamma comes to the West this is probably one of the hardest things for Westerners to appreciate. Everywhere you look, the Dhamma is being remade, recast, so that people will like it. Things that people don’t like are quietly cut away; and if things that people like are missing, they’re added on. And so the creature that comes out is like the old cartoon of a committee designing a bird: The bird looks pretty good to begin with, but then after the committee’s done with it, it looks like an ostrich with no legs. It can’t walk and it can’t fly, but it sells. In this country of ours, where democracy and the marketplace are all-powerful, the question of what sells determines what’s Dhamma, even if it can’t walk or fly. And who loses out? We lose out.

The Dhamma doesn’t lose out; it’s always what it is. But we like to add a little here, take away a little there, and as a result we end up with nothing but things we already like and already dislike. The Buddha pointed out the four ways that people get led off course. Two of them are following your likes and dislikes; the other two are giving in to delusion and fear. These things pull people off the path. We go wandering into the underbrush and then off to who-knows-where simply because we like to follow what we like and to avoid what we dislike—even though the things we dislike are often the things we’ve got to really look at carefully."- Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

Thanissaro Bhikkhu wrote:If you want to strengthen a muscle, you need to know where it is and what it moves if you're going to understand the exercises that target it. Only then can you perform them efficiently. In the same way, you have to understand the anatomy of the mind's suffering if you want to understand how meditation is supposed to work. Read up on what the Buddha had to say on the topic, and don't settle for books that put you at the far end of a game of telephone. Go straight to the source. You'll find, for instance, that the Buddha explained how ignorance shapes the way you breathe, and how that in turn can add to your suffering. This is why most meditation regimens start with the breath, and why the Buddha's own regimen takes the breath all the way to nirvana. So read up to understand how and why.From: Strength Training for the Mind by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"A lot of our suffering and stress come from the limitations we feel in our lives.We’ve got this body that needs constant care, and even though we care for it,what does it do? It starts getting old, it gets ill, it finally dies, no matter how wellwe care for it. And it doesn’t ask permission before it does any of these things. Itdoesn’t give any warning. Then there are financial limitations, social limitations.You look around and it seems like we’re getting hemmed in all the time.

I had a dream once in which I died, and the experience of death was like theworld just closing in, closing in, closing in, until I had no room to stay anywhereand I had to get out. That’s the way life is: It just keeps closing in, closing in –allthese limitations coming from outside. And not just outside limitations: Thereally constraining limitations are the ones in our own minds, the ones we createfor ourselves.

The good news here is that we can learn not to create them. We can learn totake down these barriers. In fact, the whole practice is one of taking downbarriers, taking down limitations, even from the very beginning, the very basiclevels." - Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

"As the Buddha said, the purpose of the practice is to see what you’ve neverseen before, realize what you’ve never realized before, and many of these thingsyou’ve never seen or realized lie outside the limits of your imagination.

In order to see them, you have to learn how to push yourself more than you mightimagine. But this has to be done with skill. That’s why the Buddha said that agood determination involves four qualities: discernment, truth, relinquishment,and peace."- Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

"One of the first things that attracted me to the Dhamma was seeing my teacher, Ajaan Fuang, living a very simple life—a little tiny monastery out in the hills of Rayong, just a couple of huts, not that many people—but he was happy. You could feel a very strong sense of wellbeing just emanating from him. And you realized that it didn’t depend on his being wealthy, it didn’t depend on his being famous or having a lot of students or friends or anything. It was simply because he had worked on his mind. As he said, he wasn’t born that way.

Whatever sense of wellbeing he had developed in the mind came through the practice. And as you come to know the practice, come to know the Dhamma, you realize exactly how all-encompassing it is. Once these qualities are developed in the mind, they take care of all kinds of situations. Qualities of mindfulness, discernment, and concentration are basic to any skill, basic to our ability to deal with any situation. So by focusing on these few things we really do cover all of our bases. They encompass everything." Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

They say that your brainwaves can be measured even in your little toe—which shows that the energy of your thoughts fills your whole body, fills yourwhole experience. Normally we don’t realize how much energy we’re giving off,how much energy we’re radiating, and what the quality of that energy is. Onlywhen you make the mind really, really quiet can you begin to sense the shadowradiation put off by the mind. Only then can you sense how much that energyshapes your experience, how much it affects the experience of the people aroundyou.

This is why the Buddha put so much emphasis on the question of intention,because that’s where the energy shaping our lives really lies, in the intentions ofthe mind. What we experience consists of the intentions themselves togetherwith the energy they create, the ripple effect they create—from intentions in thepresent and intentions in the past—as those ripple patterns intersect andinterfere. That’s what shapes our experience. And one of the main lessons inmeditation lies in seeing how that happens.

But even before you see it happen, the Buddha’s training gets you to developskillful intentions, both because they have a good effect on your life, and alsobecause they make it easier to see what’s going on. Unskillful intentions put up alot of interference, make it hard to see. You do things and say things that arereally unskillful and you don’t realize what you’ve done because you’ve createdsuch turbulence. This is why the Buddha teaches us to practice generosity, toobserve the precepts, because the intentions that go into generosity and virtueare skillful in and of themselves and also allow us to see more and more ofwhat’s going on, to gain an appreciation of how much our intentions do shapeeverything. - Thanissaro Bhikkhu

"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "--------------------------------------------"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation, Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

Apologies for butting in here... I will post in a new thread if moderators so advise... but, since this is where the Thaan Geoff boffins seem to be hanging out, then maybe my question could get answered most easily here.Thaan Geoff, when speaking on the subject of renunciation, has often said that the Buddha's heart did not leap up at the thought of renunciation (i.e. before he was the Buddha). Can anyone give a sutta reference to this? Or vinaya pitika?

bazzaman wrote:Apologies for butting in here... I will post in a new thread if moderators so advise... but, since this is where the Thaan Geoff boffins seem to be hanging out, then maybe my question could get answered most easily here.Thaan Geoff, when speaking on the subject of renunciation, has often said that the Buddha's heart did not leap up at the thought of renunciation (i.e. before he was the Buddha). Can anyone give a sutta reference to this? Or vinaya pitika?

Could you provide a reference to where this was mentioned? I think it may help to see his words in a larger context.

bazzaman wrote:Apologies for butting in here... I will post in a new thread if moderators so advise... but, since this is where the Thaan Geoff boffins seem to be hanging out, then maybe my question could get answered most easily here.Thaan Geoff, when speaking on the subject of renunciation, has often said that the Buddha's heart did not leap up at the thought of renunciation (i.e. before he was the Buddha). Can anyone give a sutta reference to this? Or vinaya pitika?

Benjamin wrote: "Could you provide a reference to where this was mentioned? I think it may help to see his words in a larger context."

Sorry, I can't give a specific reference. It is a recurring theme in his Dhamma talks, though. I have listened to something in the neighbourhood of 2,000 of his daily talks, but have no way of tracking the themes.

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Reverend Thanissaro, last time I checked, does not use the internet and if he did I'd be surprised to find him here as Dhammawheel can be very unfriendly towards him at times.

Last I checked, he does have "phone hours". Just Google Wat Metta (his monastery) and call the number that comes up within the hours given.

Boffins huh? I guess that works--if you believe, as I do, that there's a science to Dhamma.

Thank you danieLion... this theme has been on my mind a lot lately, and now I can reflect on the sutta. "The Case of the Reluctant Bodhisatta"...Sorry if I misused the term "boffins"... I shouldn't go outside my cultural boundaries, especially with my aged brain functioning at less than optimum efficiency.Also, lest my manner of speech gave the wrong impression, I have much respect for Ven. Thanissasro. Listening to his recorded talks has been beneficial to me. His use of themes, such as this one of "reluctance", and others like "the inner commitee" and others, have continued to provoke questioning in my practice.