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The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>

This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>

Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>[/quote]

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
[/quote]how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.
[/quote]

regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
[/quote]its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?
[/quote]

Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
[/quote]gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.
[/quote]

lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy <font color="#0000ff">reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route</font>. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well

[/quote]he did stop running the route ....<u>Gilbride can shove that draw play up his *** that ****ing thing never works ...</u>.everybody was up on the line for that play like I said fake the ****ing hand and run around the end to the right if Eli doesn't think he can get the 2 yards throw it away...They handcuffed them selves with no options and everybody knows whats coming......I'll be glad when Gilbrides gone he's an idiot....[/quote]that was bad. very bad. their linebackers were just waiting ware

The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>

This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>

Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>[/quote]

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
[/quote]how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.
[/quote]

regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
[/quote]its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?
[/quote]

Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
[/quote]gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.
[/quote]

lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well

[/quote]lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.
[/quote]

As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
[/quote]of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.

youre on crack. seriously.
[/quote]

We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

whatever helps u get through this loss dezz

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT

Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</P>

Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</P>

We made them look a lot better than they are.</P>

Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</P>

[/quote]

19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
[/quote]</P>

these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</P>

Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

They are definitly going to get a bye because they do play in a garbage division, they have 8 wins already and have 5 more games vs that **** division

So basically they only need one win to get to the NFCC. Not an unpractical situation at all - but i know i know... Alex Smith sucks so they won't do it even though the key to their offense is that they only need him to not turn it over and throw the ball for 220 yards.

Their built around their defense and run game. Its like the Steelers first superbowl win, except they have alot more receiving weapons

Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>

Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>

We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>

Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>

[/quote]

19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
[/quote]</p>

these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</p>[/quote]

yea thats all it does - puts more pressure on the Eagles. Pre-PAts game if I told you guys we were going to go 2-1 everybody would sign up for it

The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>

This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>

Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>[/quote]

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
[/quote]how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.
[/quote]

regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
[/quote]its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?
[/quote]

Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
[/quote]gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.
[/quote]

lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well

[/quote]lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.
[/quote]

As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
[/quote]of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.

youre on crack. seriously.
[/quote]

We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
[/quote]do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>

This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>

Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>[/quote]

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
[/quote]how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.
[/quote]

regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen. Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
[/quote]Exactly-San Fran is way legit. Eli can't comeback and win every game in the end, it's just not going to happen. We hung within 1 td of an elite team, we belong in that circle.

The 4th down play-ballsy, YES. The right decision, ehh. I prefer putting it all on the line balls to the wall. I was happy the call at least gave us the opportunity to win.
[/quote]

We had 2 or 3 TOs and alot of time, like 330. Completely uncharacteristic. I personally always take shots at Coughlin for being too by the book and while I really still don't agree with the decision (but its impossible to argue with results) have to commend them.

But then after doing that, we still try to have the balanced offensive attack. Way too many runs after we sacked up and aired it out for a 4th and 2 on our own 35.
[/quote]Yes-in hindsight-the only flaw was to run it as much as they did. There was an effective flow in that drive where they were fearing the pass and we gained good ground yards. I think they were trying to set the defense up to bite on a run and open the pass game for the tie. 49'ers defense didn't bite. That being said, we still put points up on a very good defense.

Their dbacks were ball hawking Eli all day---interceptions could of been even higher. Eli did good forgetting about the last play and concentrating on the next play.

Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>

Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>

We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>

Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>

[/quote]

19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
[/quote]</p>

these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</p>[/quote]

yea thats all it does - puts more pressure on the Eagles. Pre-PAts game if I told you guys we were going to go 2-1 everybody would sign up for it
[/quote]Definitely. I take back how I criticized Ware the other week for missing a blitz on Eli---Brandon Jacobs got confused yesterday and gave up a hit on Eli.