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Friday, July 6, 2012

M.K. Davis Enhanced View Of Patterson-Gimlin Film, Will Make You Feel Like You Were There

While most of us were enjoying the 4th of July with our families, M.K. Davis was busy working on an enhanced HD panoramic view of the P/G film. What Davis did was he added Patty's stabilized walking frames and overlayed on "a very high quality" frame from the original film as the background. According to Davis, this kind of gives the viewer the feel for being there.
Watch below:

Amazing work..now it looks even MORE apparent that it is just Bob Heironimous in a suit, walking away knowing that no one will pull a trigger, the quality and distance will make it difficult to identify the hoax, etc. Here we are 5 decades later...trying to pin all bigfoot hopes on an obviously questionable clip that has/will never be reproduced...only one Bob H, only one horse-hair suit to ditch in a million acres of dense forest.

The producer of the Biscardi video is MK's old partner, Grendel Films. They were supposed to put out a "Massacre" movie, but ditched it after it was basically finished. Weird. I wonder what turned Mr. JJ into a PGF non-believer?

This is old work by MK. It shows that he CAN do very good work, if one disregards his more odd theories. Check out his blog here:http://thedavisreport.wordpress.com/You can find a much higher quality version of this walk-across animation there, and you can download it, too.

PEOPLE THIS IS NOT FAKE, IT IS THE REAL DEAL, just look at the muscle movement on the right leg when the female BF steps forward, look at the back of the arm, look at the shoulder blade move underneath all that hair and muscle, it was 1967 folks don't be stupid, just think, nobody could make such a perfect looking suit for a 7+ foot tall giant.

Not to sure about that anymore, it may be an effect due to the cuff being attached to the shoe; when heel is planted and toes are up, material is not as close to calf but then when toes pivot toward ground the material gets pressed against the calf. Was of the opinion the calf muscle was the most convincing part, but again, not sure anymore.

Nice trolling job there Timmy. On the contrary Timmy, they've all been addressed and answered probably hundreds of times by now. Shoulder join location is wrong? How the hell would you know. LOL No shoulder pads (too wide) no helmet (couldn't reach) no suit (could't make/industry lacking species info). If it's so easy try it yourself and see how it's not, your bad suit would be spotted in seconds for having no anatomical features or correct species proportion. Yes we know how the sasqautches look because we've seen them in real life and on film - like this. Not like all the fakes. Give it up trolls it's no hoax.

You got to be kidding me.They're nothing but a bunch of egotistical fat heads.Bunch of CORK SOAKERS with ball scars on their chins.Just look at their almighty leader Randi.I've seen him without his beard and its a horrible sight.MAJOR BALL SCARS!!!!!

There are horizontal lines at both hips due to the suit scrunching up. The ass (this is supposedly a naked creature here) never flexes the entire time, hell, it doesn't even move, period, at least not in the way you'd expect a bare hominoid ass to do while walking. What it (the whole ass section) does do near the infamous 352 frame is "shift" just like you'd expect padding to do as the human underneath turns.

Hoax hoax hoax. A conman and a liar filmed the only decent footage of a mythical beast? Haha, yeah boy. What you see here is Jerry Romney in a monkey suit.

Anon 2:15 has no credibility! Don't believe a word he says. I'm not sure where he is getting his info, but there is not a lick of evidence he is sourcing or providing except an amature couch patato view!

No source you say? How about 2 different people who worked at ANE at the time Patterson did for your sources who are named Clyde Reinke and Harry Kemball?

Are you suggesting conman Patterson didn't draw a female Sasquatch with the same pancake tits a year earlier? That's common knowledge. Its also common knowledge he was filming a documentary and was out of money. Are you saying he wasn't a conman to boot? He was a proven conman, even the most firm believers will acknowledge that.

And just because I didn't provide a link to what i said in my original post doesn't mean "I" made it up. This information is widely available to anyone willing to look past the suit and into the history. You obviously don't even know the history of this footage well enough to even comment, that is to comment and not look like a clueless ass anyway. Anyone who does know it well enough will also know that what I've stated has come from "known sources". You need to do some homework, obviously, anon 2:38.

The people you say that faked the Bigfoot have been proven to be liars. Again it's not common knowledge liar! There is people on sites that also say we didn't go to the moon and our govt was behind 911. The film has been scrutinized by many many experts in muscle movement and gate. Impossible to hoax. IMPOSSIBLE! You can always look up info from yahoos that claim a bunch of stuff just to get their face on tv. I believe experts before some idiots claiming they were there faking!

First off I agree with your very first sentence in which you said: "the people I said that faked the Bigfoot have proven to be liars". You're right, Patterson was a known conman and Gremlin is on record lying about being arrested for receiving stolen property. So I absolutely agree with you and thanks for being honest with yourself. Ha ha.

Anyway, I know what you meant to say and you son, are full of shit and flat out lying at the same time. Neither Reinke OR Kemball have been proven to be liars. They're (Reinke and Kemball) only passing down first hand knowledge that came from Romney and Patterson themselves. Of course Romney denies it on record, he is friends with those who own ANE. Romney stated that he was indeed the one in the suit on more than one occassion to Reinke. Anyone who knows Reinke will tell you he is not one to just flat out make up bullshit and definitely isn't going to flat out lie about someone. That means Romney indeed told him he was wearing the suit and like I said of course Romney denies it on camera because he is close to those at ANE. Harry Kemball is another man who isn't full of shit and he stated that Patterson boasted about the hoax. Now, who you going to believe? Kemball or a KNOWN CONMAN named Roger Patterson? Clyde Reinke? Or Romney who is friends with ANE top executives?

Easy decision here. I know the truth hurts you deep in your misguided heart but the truth is the truth. Deal with it.

They lied because they couldnt have faked it physically then or now. It's not possible-period. Even if it were faked the suit would be worth millions and nobody would sit on that! Show us the friggen suit then. We want EVIDENCE of the suit so it can be examined! Until then they are making it up! Son

Anon 6:12... what do you mean the suit is worth "millions"? To who? Don't you understand that 99.999% of Americans couldn't care less about Bigfoot or the PGF? To say it has some value NOW, sure, but then? No. Patterson probably burned it.

Hohohoho good old Timmy's back with his old trick bag of lies post after post. LOL The best proof we probably have the film is no hoax is someone like Timmy's on-going charade here, it's very clear he's a bigfooter himself it's a totally normal thing that happens to the human psyche once denounced and kicked out of boards or organizations the scorned person retaliates by switching camps. Notice how he piles it up and thinks he's won some award when he's not even won any arguments, by saying things like "crushed your dream" and "deal with it". LOL Guess what loser, we don't give a flying-f what you think so your endless lying rants are all falling on deaf ears. There was no suit anywhere ever because it neither humanly nor technically could be one so to blindly believe the costume nonsense because it suits you psychologically better is quite frankly evidence of serious mental health issues.

anonymous dipshit at 113, not everyone who thinks bigfoot is bullshit and posts here is ME, you stupid lutz. Basically you are a) giving me too much credit and b) delusional for thinking ANYONE who disagrees with Bigfoot existence is anything but logical and correct

Use Firefox thru Linux, Timmy doesnt have but one IP address. A bunch of people think Bigfoot is total lies and smoke and mirrors include me there. Funny to see Timmy has the footers scrambling with wild accusations!!

People seem to think I "hate" MK, or whatever. But really, I don't. I've just been trying to get him to stop spreading this "Massacre" conspiracy theory, to leave Bob Gimlin and John Green alone in their old age, and to keep doing what MK is GOOD at... stuff like THIS. For the latter, I'm grateful to MK, actually. And also, in conversation he is a pretty nice dude.

According to himself the massacre stuff isn't his idea. Nobody likes outlandish claims and I think that's basically why people bash that whole massacre thing because it's new and it's shocking while there's a gentleman's image surrounding Gimlin which I'm sure is well deserved the nice man that he is, but Davis only suggests there's more to the story than just coming around a bend and filming a Bigfoot. They did film a real one - all except the trolls agree on that - but the question is if there's actually two different ones and only one of them is Patty. In other words, two different occasions spliced together as one single event figuring in '67 no one would ever know.

Not the same individual according to MK, one probably male. The shooting idea sounds weird but it could be true the logging hired crew simply documented it all, and this became the famous Patterson/Gimlin Film. They just gave it to Roger or a tiny bit of it for him to make a buck if he could, no one ever thought it'd raise this much heat hence Gimlin struggling with it now and the heated opposition from trolls (ie MIBs).

The way Steven to stop spreading a theory you don't agree with is to NOT post links for those of us who haven't heard or don't care enough to search it out. Silence is often wise. Too late though this time around.

On the reason for this article: very cool, very impressive work.

But, this was over 50 years ago.Where is that Ketchum DNA Study and the EP amazing HD footage?

How can can things go from a "study will be out soon," to dead silence?

Only trolls are the blind Bigfoot believers following each lie and hoax no matter how stupid or far-fetched. When I need a laugh I think of liars like Ketchum, Patterson, Moneymaker, etc, spreading ridiculous shit that amounts to nothing...50 years later. Wow Patterson WAS a genius!

I watched this on Nat Geo I think it was last week. The part that can't be faked is the knee bend, and the ratio of upper leg to lower leg. You could put a 7'6" human in a suit, but the knee bend will still have proportional human ratios. You can't make the human lower leg shorter from the knee bend to the ground, like this bigfoot has. PGF bigfoot has a shorter lower leg in proportion to its upper leg. That why this is not a fake, because its impossible to reproduce the same upper/lower leg ratios with a human in a suit. Let the skeptics try to do it, and reproduce this ratio, with a smooth flowing gate, with mid-tarsal ridges in footprints depths requiring 800 lbs. Some things cannot be faked. This is one of them.

Yes, Bigfoot is real. I rarely bother to say that here, I don't want to make deniers and trolls feel any smaller than they behave. They don't handle it well. It must be hard for them really, even sad, missing out on so much with their eyes and ears shut.But Bigfooters? We have a blast, we know, we accept it, and we find some pleasure in that.The only reason we can tolerate this site, because it doesn't matter what all the people do and say.Bigfoot is real whether you like it or not.

Guess squatcher Patterson knew since he looked at Patty directly that she's seven feet fits logically too given her build. Quite impossible to fake they can't even fake a satisfying bigfoot costume today it'd cost an arm and a leg - literally. The idea that it's easy to fake is proven not to be the case many times over, pick the movie yourself. Those saying differently pretty much means it's an agenda. Romney or whoever tall guy would actually be the wrong size for it because of his legs, so for this human anatomical fact alone we safely rule Patty not fake. As funny as it sounds basically we're too tall to fake it being a leggy species primarily where the long part of a sasquatch is the body upwards. To have all this biology and technology function perfectly in a suit from 1967 no less, is at best very ignorant to suggest at worst deliberately.

Hey anon 2:03 - why are u here? If u don't believe then what the hell are you wasting your time for? You must just like arguing for a living! What other things in your life do you like frustrating yourself over ? Oh I'm going to go on a Bigfoot sight and keep telling everybody it's not real, then I'm going to go argue with my family and neighbors . Ohhh that's fun! Loser!

Why do DENIERS come here, what is the point? The disruption is only visual. The commitment to Bigfoot not being real doesn't seem like enough motivation to make a fool of ones self here. Witness bother because they know the truth and have the motivation to convince others, if only to end the insults. But a Denier? What gain beyond that of the irritation of a gnat? makes no sense to me. They did not show up until this website was quite popular, make no sense to me, unless the MIB theories have some credence...

Then anon 2:42 what the hell are you here for ? Give me one legitimate reason! Knowbody who doesn't believe in the possibility has no reason to be here unless you just like to argue for a living. How fun are you? If your so dead set on it not existing then your argument is over! Knowbody will convince you so let it be! Let it be. Are you here just to change others minds? Then if that's the case why don't you try to convince a dog he's a cat! You must like beating your head against a wall.

I don't feel there is any evidence to support the existence of Bigfoot. I come here because I hope one day to be proven wrong. As of yet, that hasn't taken place.

If you can't handle skeptics, you really aren't much of a believer IMO. Skeptics serve a great purpose, we give perspective and aren't as prone to jump to undefendable conclusions about suspicious looking "evidence"

Then how can u say it doesnt exist if you keep checking this site ! Then you should rephrase it to there is a possibility. I've seen enough evidence to know there is a very good possibility of it's existence and I live in the area . Most skeptics I've talked to are so dead set against the idea, but when I ask them how they know they don't exist they don't have any answer . Almost everyone I've talked to in person are not big outdoors people, don't go out to the deep woods at night, and only think Harry and the Hendersons Is there best reference they have about the species.

where did i say it didn't exist? I said I have not seen any evidence for the existence of Bigfoot. Evidence being the sort of things that would be required to prove the existence of a new kind Tiger or a new Salamander. Type specimens, crystal clear photo's, behavioral study type video documentary footage. But, really, a type specimen is really what's needed here.

If said evidence is ever presented and verified, then I will be happy! When I was a kid i loved all this stuff, and I still find it interesting today. Though I suspect there is nothing to it. But I hold my opinion as open to persuasion with the presentation of evidence.

Nick B, do you actually go out in the field or do you try to find your answer on these blogs? I too had a childhood fascination , but it wasn't until I had a large group of family , friends, and others who saw them. Not only did they see them, but saw the crap, hair, tracks, and later thermals. I've heard them. My belief system is different than a person who only reads about it . I'm going out now at night without announcing it to anyone (avoiding the possibility of hoaxers). These sightings happened over a period of years and it wasn't until recent that anyone actually shared or knew that the others saw them. I've talked to Forest Service people who know they are there. I don't need to be convinced, but I do want to see one. That's why I go out now. Good luck and get out at night.

I'm a true sceptic; I always have an 'out'. I don't believe they exist but I would just love to be proven wrong!If they are never proven to exist, I win! And if they ARE proven to exist, I still win!See how that works?

Give Nick b a chance. He's willing to be at least partial to the idea! Nick just some advice. When out be extra observant. Most people can live in an area and never even notice the local wildlife. Only a small group of people pay attention to most stuff when they are wheeling or walking. Others can pick out s certain bird call . Pay lots of attention. Good luck!

LOL. NickB is a closest Bigfoot believer. Seriously, it''s reverse psychology and it's obvious who wants Bigfoot to be real so bad. Just come out of the closest and admit it Nick. I know it sucks to admit something you know could possibly exist, but please don't bash people while you're at it.

Bigfoots are real. Real. Real. Real.Bigfoots are alive and well and nothing anyone here can say that will change that. Real. Real. Bigfoots are real. Real.Pretty amazing actually, maybe why deniers can't take it.Is it just too amazing, unsettling perhaps? Knocks one right onto the evolutionary bush, just another hominin. Real. Bigfoots are real. Read deal. Real. Did I mention Bigfoots are real? They are.

A guy who is in the pics with Patterson nd Gimlin but remained overlooked and hidden said "we faked it". aka Bob H.

Pretty sure if Armstrong came out and said "yes we faked the moon landings" people might believe him...just like Heironomous who was in a saddle on the PGF trail...obviously later out of saddle in a suit too

if it is so fake and you have all the reasons why,you should be able to do a recreation, in almost 50 years, not one recreation comes close. How can a financially strapped horse rancher do such an elaborate hoax that still has not been duplicated. Just another couch potato, skeptic with All the answers... EPIC FAIL !!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

MK Davis is a very clever fellow, old work or not. For the next generation of this video, he could extract the Patty figure onto the panoramic minus the frame remnant, just the figure. Now, that would be cool to see. Good work MK!

Whatever you want to say, MK does a good job with this stuff. I think I would like an app where I can make Patty walk across Abbey Road with the Beatles, or walk on the moon, or walk across the stage at the Apollo.

You are such an idiot, and with apparent limited grasp of either the depth or breadth of what's readily available to hang on beyond the PG film. Libtard! Go away!You are in the wrong place and unwelcome. People here know better than you, almost all of them.

As a retired employee of Kodak in Palo Alto on old Page Mill Road, I was impressed as hell with what MK Davis has done. Good on him.

I started watching his work when he detected splicing in the PG film. Some impressive detail work with old 16mm Kodachrome 2 was not an easy process, it was complex as hell. I don't know the man personally, but I can testify to his work detailing the PG film. (I was the guy that helped layout Ivan Marx's Kodak processing equipment. He processed rather sloppily but got the job done in decent fashion.)

To the skeptics....please logically argue against the upper/lower leg ratios regarding my post at 1:34pm. The bigfoot's lower leg is much shorter in proportion to the upper leg than any human. You'd have to chop off the leg above the ankle to get an equivalent upper/lower leg ratio. This cannot be faked. Period. Don't be mentally lazy. How do you explain this? The knee bend is the reference point, it is where it is. You generate the upper/lower leg ratio from there, to the hip and heel. The lower leg in humans is much longer than the bigfoot species. This was pointed out in the analysis on the Nat Geo program last week. (though it might have been a rerun). This is a living moving animal. If it's a human in a suit, the lower leg would be much longer. There is not a human on earth with a lower leg so short in comparison to the upper leg. But apes and chimps have a similar ratio. Don't just rag on and say there is no evidence. This is evidence of the highest order. A human of 6 ft will have the same ratio of upper/lower leg lenth as a human of 7' 6". It makes no difference. Deal with this fact. The bigfoot in the PG film has a much shorter lower leg in comparison to the upper leg than ANY human on earth. This is incontrovetible. Argue the point please skeptics. I'm sorry if I've confused you with the facts.

It's due to the fact that the top of Patty is not the top of the head of the person in the suit, if you do a ratio of the shoulder ball (clearly seen) and the knee bend (clearly seen) you have the EXACT SAME ratio as that of a 6 foot tall human being in the suit....

nice try though, there's a guy called Tube who already dealt with this , the pictues math and everything, but I couldn't find his stuff

go here and look at his stuffm it's very thorough and not dismissive or anything.

James ignore the people who just post fake and man in a suit! You know what your talking about and I've seen the evidence supporting that. Poor comments about a fake never have verifiable proof or expertise behind it . Appreciate your post !

Shut up troll. James you're right the anatomical facts have always confused the socalled skeptics, in fact they probably know by now how wrong they were all along but you'll never get them to admit it. That's why this ought to be a closed forum troll-free, unfortunately Shawn has let his blog turn into a free for all joke of a frenzy meaning that all serious debate is difficult. Let the trolls yap in solitude to their fake God Randi of some Communist Russia plot against free speech but here we can do without them so block the freaks somehow. It's obvious who the spammers are. Back to James' point, this leg issue is rightly why we know Patty's no hoax. Sasquatches may be very tall but they're primarily so from the waist up - we're a leggy species ourselves something fakers never knew before and they still don't as seen in movie suits, and even if they'd known it's still not humanly possible. Trolls know this data now, that's why they troll in some vain attempt to fool the last suckers wising up.

@8:40pm....leave the shoulder joint...stick with the simple facts of hip to knee and knee to heel. this cannot be faked, even with a "head" extension. Period. End of story. You can't do it, and you can't find a human on earth that has that short of a lower leg in comparison to the upper leg (knee to hip joint, also clearly shown).

@9:28,July 6....I looked at both of those pictures. The first, supports my point not the skeptics. The humans' lower leg is MUCH longer than the bigfoots'. This is what cannot be faked. The second also shows a longer lower leg bone (tibia). It's the ratio of the upper leg bone (femur) to the lower (tibia), that is different in humans, than in the sasquatch species, and in apes other than humans. The PG film shows an animal other than a human.

No such luck trolls, you'll have to continue the tiresome job you've been given by some authority to bother bigfooters. Yeah I know it probably sucks but there you go, it's your sour lot handed in life's lottery. Gimlin would never say that because he knows it's real. He may know it went down differently than the official PGF story goes, he may even be one of the massacre shooters if anything like that ever took place, hoax though it sure as heck ain't.

Hey anon at 2:20, how is asking a question like that trolling? The PGF is the holy grail for many used to support the existence of bigfoot. There's no reason to get defensive when someone asks a good question. Would belief in bigfoot still be around if the PGF was taken out of the discussion?

I think that everything posted made a great deal of sense.However, think on this, suppose you typed a catchier title?I ain't saying your content is not solid., however what if you added a post title that grabbed folk's attention?

I mean "M.K. Davis Enhanced View Of Patterson-Gimlin Film, Will Make You Feel Like You Were There" is kinda boring. You ought to look at Yahoo's front page and see how they write news titles to grab people interested. You might add a related video or a related pic or two to get readers excited about what you've written.In my opinion, it could bring your posts a little bit more interesting.