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Exactly. That was poor writing done for the sake of TR becoming "competent" and boring in BW.

Yeah. I mean she loved contest in the Advanced and DP saga and wanted to become top coordinator no matter how many times she lost. Now she actually made it to the semi-finals of the grand festival and she suddenly quits over 1 lose? That just doesn't make any sense to me

Yeah. I mean she loved contest in the Advanced and DP saga and wanted to become top coordinator no matter how many times she lost. Now she actually made it to the semi-finals of the grand festival and she suddenly quits over 1 lose? That just doesn't make any sense to me

Yeah. I mean she loved contest in the Advanced and DP saga and wanted to become top coordinator no matter how many times she lost. Now she actually made it to the semi-finals of the grand festival and she suddenly quits over 1 lose? That just doesn't make any sense to me

At least in the original Japanese dub of the previous episode, Jessie tells Dawn to win the championship as Dawn won against her, or otherwise she won't forgive her. She repeats her statement in this episode. She probably thought that since she didn't even lose against a proper victor, all the things she have accomplished so far was pointless.

This is Turtwig, he was the most under appreciatted starter in Diamond & Pearl. If you picked Turtwig as your starter, put this in your sig . Started by Dax-360

Originally Posted by Teshub

I also read from the bulbagarden thread about the movie that Zorua impersonates Dawn and tries to show Dawn's butt to Ash. Fanservice, foreshadowing?

Originally Posted by Locormus

This show is called Pokemon, not Pochaman.. although that sounds almost the same..

Just rewatched this episode, and I have to say, this episode has my favourite scene in the whole anime, its just something about Dawn handing over the ribbon to her mother, that scene fills me with joy, it really did show us how full circle she came, leaving on her first day with her mom's ribbon, meeting many friends, gaining lots of experiences and her own ribbons, it showed how much she grew, a truly fantastic scene and that BGM, heart-warming, truly heart-warming.

Just rewatched this episode, and I have to say, this episode has my favourite scene in the whole anime, its just something about Dawn handing over the ribbon to her mother, that scene fills me with joy, it really did show us how full circle she came, leaving on her first day with her mom's ribbon, meeting many friends, gaining lots of experiences and her own ribbons, it showed how much she grew, a truly fantastic scene and that BGM, heart-warming, truly heart-warming.

I agree, this episode was definitely one of my favorite episodes. The battle between Dawn and Zoey was just awesome, even though she lost it was still a great episode for Dawn and I'm glad that she got runner up in the Grand Festival on her 1st try. The music used in this episode was pretty awesome too, especially that one where Piplup and Togekiss got ready for one final attack. I easily give this episode a perfect 10/10.

Hikari didn't truly deserve to win this, though. She had an excellent run in the DP series, but even her skills weren't at the level that they had to be at to win this competition. She should feel proud that she made Top 2, though.

Amazing episode! I love how this is the final battle of the Grand Festival, and Dawn and Zoey could say that they were there and their promise was fulfilled. This was one of my favorite episodes, and I was glad Dawn said that she was fine after losing.

In hindsight, the Shinou Grand Festival's finale was so much more satisfying than the Houen or Kanto variations to me, mainly because a well-established character like Nozomi was crowned the winner here instead of some random Coordinator like Saori or Robert.