>>45705551no they don't, apple has most of the workforce focused on their products, and even forced the suppliers to build new factories to meet the demand, the easiest way to fix it is build their own factories or completely halt production of all the chinese made products, also it's their own fault for outsourcing labor where they can't control the work environment and it isn't like apple can't afford to make it themselves as what other company has $660bn in profits just sitting there.

>>45707286He's called himself an arrogant asshole before, so what's your point?That's even why he called his version control system Git to begin with, he can joke with the fact that he's a fucking git (britbong slang).

>>45707391I'm not an Apple fanboy at all, but I wouldn't trust any other fab to have any better working conditions than Foxconn.Other than having less coworkers. Who knew, cramming 2000 people into one factory building creates shitty, depressing working environments.

>>45707553>5400rpm hard drivesWhich Apple uses where they don't use an SSD?>720p displaysAs compared to the 1280x800 display on the thousand dollar MacBook Pro?>We're talking about quality consumer goodsWould I be correct in reading this as "I'm going to arbitrarily reject any example you give me."?

I'm talking about a real machine like one out of the retina line, you fucking retard. Pretty sure you have to special order the non-retina piece of garbage if you even want it. You will never find a price competitive option to their flagship retina products.

>>45707682So you agree that Apple does sell one or more grossly overpriced products? That's a start. I should mention that the 5400rpm hard drives are in the Mac mini and iMac too. 7200rpm hard drives are only available in higher storage amounts, and even then as an additional upgrade over the 5400rpm version.>You will never find a price competitive option to their flagship retina products.In what measures, exactly?

>>45705551>well they're right to be offended.>Every major brand uses cheap manufacturing and assembly from places like China and India with poor enforcement of labor rights at besthow is this an excuse?you are right that most companies do that, and while they are only naming Apple, it's still happening, those workers are being denied a dignified life.

>>45707751Yes, I agree. And Apple is a shit-tier company that panders to tech-illiterate faggots for most of its sales.

But try to find a comparable laptop to the midrange 13" retina or entry level 15" retina since these are the two highest sellers.Considering resolution, battery life, price, performance, and form factor: there is no competitive option. And it ships with Unix.

>>45707773Was that meant to reply to me? I'm not sure if I understand. Also, if you meant to reply to the post I'm replying to, I have to say that's a shitty reply. The Pixel is even more overpriced than Apple products.

>>45707508>>45707553>>45707682funny to see people defending apple these days... the only good thing apple ever had was POWER processors, which apple replaced with x86 processors, the same shit everyone else uses. the rest is almost pure marketing bullshit, and apple itself has never produced anything of value (they BUY everything).

>>45707933Android is laggy and the apps for it are shit. It's much better product for those who aren't tech saavy. And it's still decent for those who are. It's like linux but with actual quality assurance.

>>45707937>Hell I don't mind even with my tiny amount of money that I make.That's because it is truly a small sum of money.

Income taxes of the rich may be small proportionately but they are a huge sum of money. Rich people actually know the value of a dollar. And you're lying about your dipshit father making that kind of money. My parents actually did make that kind of money through my childhood and despite being flaming fucking liberals, they still hated income taxes because it's fucking bullshit that goes against basic american rights.

>>45707986>And you're lying about your dipshit father making that kind of moneyLol, alright.

>My parents actually did make that kind of money through my childhood and despite being flaming fucking liberals, they still hated income taxes because it's fucking bullshit that goes against basic american rights.

>>45708060>$999 Air, which we're not even considering right now, would be a better use of your money.>small ass 11 inch screen>no peripheral support (LOL 1 fucking USB and thunderbutt)>shit resolution>slow as fuck balls 4gb ram and 1.3ghz ULV

If you read this thread you'll understand why Apple is making so much money. The have literally made people believe they're do-gooders and their products arent over priced and they shouldnt be accounted for any of the pathetic working conditions their products are made. Sure some of you faggots are bashit insane neo-libs that would defend any jew whose making money but fuck have some sense human compation you retards.

>>45707986>Rich people actually know the value of a dollarthat's why they buy $50m houses? kekyou mean they know the value of SPECULATION. truly the jews of our day (and this is a fact, jews were hated in europe because their religion allowed them to charge high interest rates)(pic related)

>>45708039>muh GDPthe day they leave to China, your GDP will drop in a split second, and you will be asking yourself why you gave money to companies that have no loyalty to countries, people or anything other than money.

>>45708087>welfare state>no jobs>highest unemployment across all vectors>getting enriched by turbosandniggers and afrikans>"health care" thats paid for by your welfare state by you>costs out the assdon't pretend your system is perfect and flawless when your economy is trash

I'd rather have a shit system with a great economy than a shit economy with a shit inefficient bloated system

>>45708119>the day they leave to China, your GDP will drop in a split second, and you will be asking yourself why you gave money to companies that have no loyalty to countries, people or anything other than money.

>shit that will never happen since the US is china's largest buyer therefore if the US GDP some how "fails" so does all the manufacturing economy of china

>>45708060>Not true about the processorSorry, I assumed that Apple listed the boost clock. Still, a 4210U should compare well to a 4278U when under load.>NeweggMicrosoft store. $900 with higher specs.>a 1920x1080 screen doesn't compare to a 2560x1600 screenGee, and the Macbook doesn't have a touchscreen. Checkmate! Really, if you're looking for a Macbook clone, you're not going to find one, and I'm not going to try. If you want to pay $500 more for a better screen, that's fine, but don't tell me it's not overpriced.>$999 Air, which we're not even considering right now, would be a better use of your money.How, exactly?

>>45708119>the day they leave to China, your GDP will drop in a split secondWait till the end of your Macro Econ lecture before you suggest something so stupid. Why the fuck would an American tech company move to China?

>>45708169>doesn't have a touchscreen/g/ only pretends touchscreens are acceptable in arguments. We all know touchscreens are fucking terrible. If they didn't implement a touchscreen in every Windows Ultrabook they'd have to actually develop meaningful window management and a useful trackpad.

do americans really learn math and logic in school? are they taught about this thing called "CRITICAL THINKING"?arguing with these retards is painful, they have no knowledge of logic, history, geography, or anything. it's like they became a superpower out of pure luc- oh wait, this >>45708119 says it all...

>>45708312>"create" jobpeople would make their own food if they had enough resources. and, in fact, they just do that.consumerists and most rich people live a plastic, fantasy life to justify their own greed and loneliness, but if they had to do anything of real value by themselves... they would die of hunger

>>45708227>We all know touchscreens are fucking terrible.I never claimed otherwise. My point is that there are difference between the two, and that's obvious. That doesn't make the Macbook automatically win. For example: find me a current model rMBP that's thinner and lighter than the XPS 13. You can't? Well gee, I guess it's just the inferior machine, then!

>Considering resolution, battery life, price, performance, and form factor: there is no competitive option.Considering battery life, price, performance, and form factor: it outperforms the rMBP in three of those, and is inferior but a close match in the fourth. Considering resolution, it loses, but still provides what I would consider a perfectly adequate option for a 13" screen. I'm going to go ahead and call it a "competitive option". Again, if you want to pay $500 more for the resolution, that's fine. I'd consider that overpriced, but a Macbook is the only option if what you want is exactly a Macbook.

>>45708364>people would make their own food if they had enough resourcesNah thanks, I'd rather buy fresh meat and produce at the supermarket and cook a delicious homemade meal after my six-hour work day in an air-conditioned office and one hour fuck session with my white girlfriend.But I guess I can see the appeal of the stoneages when you're a retard.

>>45708406>Nah thanks, I'd rather buy fresh meat and produce at the supermarket and cook a delicious homemade meal after my six-hour work day in an air-conditioned office and one hour fuck session with my white girlfriend.>six-hour work daypeople used to work much less than that, and lets not talk about the parties, vacations and suchenjoy being a deluded wage slave, top kek

>>45708153>ridiculously high taxes>MerricaIs beacuse the wages and workers' rights you dumbfuck.Why dont you give up on those , more jobs will return to Murrica!Is like you dont want more jobs and money for your country!Are your a socialist?

>>45708404>implying I give a fuck about them cheating their taxes>implying I believe they should even pay taxesYeah, cause I really want them to make sure the niggers have a strong line of support for them programs.

I have a 15" rMBP. Literally no laptops were comparable to it in screen quality, processor power, battery, and physical dimensions. Every other machine was either a brick or a fucking ultrabook. The only thing that came close was the Razer Blade gaymen laptop which has half as much ram as standard, a worse processor, no hispeed IO, and shit tier battery life - and cost even more. Every other laptop was a fucking mobile plastic-fantastic workstation that weighs as much as an M1 Abrams.

You can call Macs overpriced if all you look at is numbers, but there is more to a machine than numbers.

>>45705551apple, for some reason, has a reputation of being some environmentally friendly and ethical to normal people. i was talking to an applefag the other day who was shocked to learn about the shit they do. i hope these assholes get exposed.

>>45708687lol manlet faggot just get a ThinkPad Workstation 17" it has moar poweh and only costs 400 cents on Craigslist fuckin macfags and you can just carry the charger with you who needs battery fucking manlet just carry it #rekt #macfag

>>45708732>oh>you mean>like>every other property investment ever?EXACTLY my point. most rich people produce nothing of value, they make money off their own financial circlejerk (and of course, govt subsidies and tax cuts). but then, if shit happens, they lose all their money and kill themselves for not being able to cope with the shame that is being a useless piece of meat.>>See some ignorant ass shitsure, see how ignorant I am...

>>45707971>Android>laggywell if you bought like a $50 android phone, then i see where this is a problem, but an android phone of a similar price to an iphone will not be laggy, and will be faster than the iphone.Also what the fuck do you man android has no apps, if anything it has more and better apps, and even if there is an apple exclusive app, you can always get an emulator or some virtual machine.

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