When I drove back from Tonquani the other day I noticed a very narrow kloof just west of Kranskloof. When you're driving along the N4 back to Pta it's clearly visible. Is this Hidden Kloof? Has anyone gone to have a look? It looks steep, narrow and beautifull. I'll take a photo from the N4 this weekend. The GPS coords are 25°45'21.49"S, 27°42'12.65"E. Here's what it looks like on Google Earth:

Is this the location of Trident? I've never been there as access to Magalies members is sketchy:

how yoda alex has explained it too me before is that hiddenkloof is perpendicular to the klowe, aka parallel to the road and therefore u cannot see it so my best guess is that its not hidden:P however hidden is offlimits, but lets w8 for an old toppie to wake up and hit us with his years of experience. Dicky i think we must get hold of the MCSA map of the klowe for Explo:)

I know the new farmer at Kranskloof. I went there in May this year and got a free night's stay in the B&B when they opened. They bought the place and don't know much about the kloof. They even asked me to find out what happened to their water supply (a pipe was disconnected). Chances are they won't have a problem if its on their property. But the properties in the Magalies is usually long pieces perpendicular to the mountain range, so it might not even be theirs.

I just looked at my 1:50k maps. The two kloofs are on the same farm. It's called Wolhuterskop (452 JQ). Here is a part of the map:

Has the MCSA ever tried securing climbing access to Retief's Kloof? It's the one you can see up on the right just before Olifant's Nek. I used to know the Retiefs through mutual friends, and went up there once. The main kloof you can see isn't on the path up to the bumslides that everyone goes to, but off to the right; you have to bundubash to get into it, but it is pretty spectacular with vertical walls good for hard sport and an amazing chockstone / bridge.

I mentioned climbing there to the Retiefs, but the idea wasn't greeted with enthusiasm.

so there are bolts there? Is it hidden Kloof?
I assume u had permission to be in there, careful. I spoke to landowner couple years ago and he was VERY anti climbers, I think it impossible to convince him otherwise.