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Refusing to produce a receipt for purchased merchandise is not enough to detain someone. You must be observed taking something and then attempting to leave the store without paying in order for them to have any legal ability to stop you. If you stop for any other reason than you are actually stealing something, then you are doing it willingly.
Guess who decides (in real time) if a customer was 'observed' taking something and then attempted to leave the store?
I have no words.......
Thank you for having an opinion and being honest.
Ok since I guess noone else is going to address this...
What do you think happens if a LP guy accuses someone of shoplifting in order to detain them and they don't in fact have anything on them?

Refusing to produce a receipt for purchased merchandise is not enough to detain someone. You must be observed taking something and then attempting to leave the store without paying in order for them to have any legal ability to stop you. If you stop for any other reason than you are actually stealing something, then you are doing it willingly.
Guess who decides (in real time) if a customer was 'observed' taking something and then attempted to leave the store?
I have no words.......

This is a good point when dealing with walmart and other stores where you haven't signed any agreement. If you did not steal your own credit card, why should you show your ID? If you are not stealing anything from the store, why should you wait in line to produce a receipt?

Refusing to produce a receipt for purchased merchandise is not enough to detain someone. You must be observed taking something and then attempting to leave the store without paying in order for them to have any legal ability to stop you. If you stop for any other reason than you are actually stealing something, then you are doing it willingly.

Agreement means willingness, meaning you are stopping on your own, they are not stopping you. If you change your mind and break your agreement, they cannot hold you and force you to show receipt in order to exit.
How do you reconcile the two bolded statements above?

There is a difference between an agreement and a policy. It doesn't matter if they're a private club, they cannot make a policy that states you may not leave without having your receipt checked. You have stated you will not leave until someone checks your receipt, willingly, this is different from them not allowing you to leave. They cannot restrict your ability to leave without having seen you take something due to that "shopkeepers privilege" or whatever that thing is. Wanting to check your receipt is not enough for them to hold you though, no matter what you've agreed to. If you break your agreement then they might cancel your membership, but they can't stop you from leaving.

Membership clubs like Costco, Sams, BJ's, etc., can make such policies and you consent to them as part of your membership agreement.
I once had a police officer who was talking to the receipt checker at Home Depot stop me after I politely told the receipt checker "no thank you" and tell me that I *had* to show my receipt. I asked him to cite the chapter and section of MA General Law that mandated such a requirement, and he got indignant. I asked him to arrest me if he thought I had stolen something or had broken another law -- several times. After about 30 seconds of him stammering and not knowing what to do, I walked out without further impediment and without showing my papers.
I'm just waiting for someone to lay a hand on me for refusing to produce a receipt.
They cannot make a policy that says "you may not leave the premises without having your receipt checked". They can say "if you leave the premises without receipt check we will revoke your membership". But they cannot tell you you may not leave.
Note I am not one of those who won't let people see my receipt just for the heck of it. I think it's worth showing my receipt just so the receipt checker guy feels like he is doing his job. It's a nice thing to do. But! If there's a big line or something, seeya. I've yet to have my costco membership cancelled.

I do not like amex FR. I would close my amex accounts if they asked for those documents.
re receipts: After you purchase something it belongs to you, the store can make no policy that says you may not leave the premise until they check your receipt. If you know you did not steal anything, there is no reason to stop.....

Oh man......... I am happy I found this place. I've been freaking out checking my BCP card app status over and over and over for the past 5 days and I've yet to see anything but in progress. I call them everyday and they always say they need more time ; ;

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