11/7 Let's say you got laid off but you still have mail and packages going
to your company. How do you go about getting them?
\_ File a forwarding card with U.S.P.S. I've done it before. - jthoms
\_ what about fedex/whatnot?
\_ what about them? Those are short term near-over night
services. Why would someone fexed you something after you
were gone?

11/7 I've noticed that, when I use PGP on soda, it spits a chain
of hex numbers that I don't need to see. Does anybody
know the flag to get rid of all that? It's not on the man
page and I wouldn't even know what to check on google.
--ulysses
\_ 2>/dev/null ?

11/7 I'm graduating in May. Has ee122 improved at all? I don't want
to waste my time.
\_ No. It sucks. Don't waste your time. Take something more useful,
like underwater basket weaving. At least you might get a good
prof and perhaps your GSI will have clue.
\_ It is more dependent on the professor teaching it than other classes.
http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/prof-query?walrand_j
The last EE 122 numbers for Walrand are not encouraging. -mgoodman
\_ Walrand's book was the most ridiculously priced POS textbook I
bought at Berkeley. God, taking EE122 was a mistake.
\_ So it seems unanimous that this class is a waste of time...
So what is another good way to learn this material? Is there a
really good book on the subject?
\_ TCP/IP Illustrated, by Stevens. -- misha.
\_ thanks for the suggestion... I highly doubt that this is
legal, but the full text of the first volume of this book
appears to be online for all those interested:
http://starlet.deltatel.ru/tcp_stivens
\_ the only time it was good was when kevin fall taught it.
but I think too many students bitched and moaned about how
unfair it was that they had to do real coding projects with
real protocols when they expected an easy handful of units
that it has reverted back to lameness again
\_ The class sucked with Kevin Fall. Yes, the project was cool,
but he was the single worst prof that I had at Berkeley. Yes,
worse than even Smith (!). Fall didn't really seem to care about
the students, spoke in a monotone, had uninteresting homeworks
\_ Yeah, at least when Walrand teaches, you get to
be amused by his fruity accent!
and tests, bad TAs, etc. The project was good, but not enough
to redeem the class.

11/7 Anyone have any recommendations on flat screens? Brands, where to buy?
\_ The Sun one's are good... look out for firesales from failing
dot-coms.
\_Sun probably OEMs them from someone else. Just go to http://www.zdnet.com
and read the reviews.
\_ flat-screen CRTs? flat panels? LCDs? Plasma?

11/6 How to find out who is the pedantic prick who is telling me how to
properly ask a question so that I can beat the shit out of him/her?
\_ I suspect the line of pedantic pricks willing to tell you how to
phrase a question using proper English syntax is quite long.
\_ http://tuxedo.org/~esr
go to it.

11/6 Mathworld is back!!
http://mathworld.wolfram.com
\_ be that as it may, I will *never* buy a CRC product ever again.
\_ Oh, there's no shame in never buying a CRC product again.
Did you read the terms of the settlement they agreed to
so they could get the site back up? Basically, they're paying
CRC off a lump sum, paying them for estimated future losses
on an ongoing basis, agreeing that CRC has a copyright on their
material, and guaranteeing CRC the rights to future material.
Personally, I wish the site was still down and being fought for
in court.

11/3 Ajani mentioned something in the meeting notes about a tradein
deal for HP-LaserJet 4s. Could someone post a URL? Thanks
\_ yeah, I mentioned it, but I hadn't looked it up at the time,
I had just heard about it. It seems that we thought about it
too late, as when I looked it up, the offer expired on
October 31: <DEAD>www.hpprimetime.com/trade-in.html<DEAD>
-- ajani

11/2 "Mobster Shoots Two After Peeking Up Skirt"
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011102/od/gangster_dc_1.html
Japanese gang members are amazing. (BTW, the Yamaguchi syndicate is
the most powerful gang in Japan.)
\_ d'oh! and i only get a whack on the shoulder if my gf catches
me glancing at another woman.
\_ she needs an axe
\_ she needs to get over it. there's nothing wrong with
a simple "look but dont touch" rule.

11/1 Your new World Champions: The New York Yankees.
\_ We knew that the moment Jeremy Giambi forgot to slide in game 3
of the A's series.
\_ We knew that the minute the WTC blew up and MLB decided
it must be NY.
\_ I switched over to WWF Smackdown last night because it was
less fixed.

11/1 Has anyone seen the Siebel American flag? Any thoughts?
\_ Surprising that the execs of a large corp can agree on something
of rather extrovert patriotic nature in Si Valley.
\_ Unless I'm mistaken, isn't Siebel a German company?
\_ You're mistaken. It was founded here by Thomas Siebel
after he left Oracle.
\_ You're thinking of Siemens AG. -alexf
\_ I haven't seen it. Is it really gaudy, or kinda neat?
\_ I think it looks really awesome... --liberal, !american
\_ It's the best publicity stunt I've seen so far.
\_ It's not the first one that Siebel Systems has put up. The
corporate HQ building in San Mateo had one up (smaller, but it
was still up) a couple of days after the WTC went down. This is
by far the largest, though... -chaos
\_ Any pix of it online? Where is it?

11/1 It's really sad that the govt has to spend money on publications
such as this because of some pedantic fool out there:
http://www.irs.gov/ind_info/friv_tax.pdf
\_ Have a cookie.
\_ I guess the IRS has been getting too many inquiries from those
people who believe in every chain e-mail they receive.

11/1 Anyone noticed that Tawei Liao has pubic-hair-like hair?
\_ You have a keen eye. But I'd say my hair looks more like that
of a 70s pimp rather than "pubic". My hair can become quite big
if I don't cut it often.

10/30 How's job hunting going?
\_ Got one.
\_ Got one, but I'm not sure playing tetris counts.
\_ if it pats the bills hey, good for you. --jon
\_ Got one in March after last company folded in January. Is $108k a
good pay in this economy for 8yrs of experience in device drivers?
\_ oh shush
\_ yes?
\_ Yes, it's slightly better than my unemployment check.
\_ how does unemployment work anyway? where is that money
coming from? Social Security fund?

10/31 I asked this before, but it got nuked. Does anyone know where
I can find one of those machines that will exchange pennies for
more useful change?
\_ link:www.coinstar.com
\_ It got nuked? It must have been offensive.
\_ It must have offended someone so it got censored.
\_ Vegas, baby.
\_ Has anyone actually exchanged their five-year-old jar of
coins in Vegas?
\_ I use them up on AC Transit. Amazing how fast a jar of pennies
can be used up as bus fare -- social science major

10/30 Can step-siblings legally get married in US?
\_ If Woody Allen can bang his step-daughter, you're safe.
\_ Soon-Yi was his step-adopted-daughter.
\_ She's not cute.
\_ if you bang that chick
uncle sam won't mind too much
but she's still your sis
\_ what's with all of the haikus on the motd today?
\_ And where's the zinc? -geordan

10/30 Why were there jets (really fast ones) constantly crossing between
the south bay, penninsula, and the east bay last night?
\_ I didn't hear anything at my home in north Fremont. What time was
it?
\_ We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with
Eastasia.
\_ Canamexicusan forces heroically declared embargo on the dastardly
\_ Dude, didn't you study geography? It's Canamexicuban. And
if we were attacking them, they'd fly closer to Fresno...
\_ as if the combined entity of the US, Canada, and Mexico
wouldn't be called "USA"...
\_ How about the "USNA" (United States of North America) to
tone down our arrogance?
\_ Why would the USA want Canada and Mexico anyway?
\_ Why does the US want Texas?
\_ Better Texas than LA. At least we can get
oil from Texas.

10/29 In order to conserve water, I've started to not flush the toilet when
I pee. I only flush when I poop. Aside from the smell, is there
anything wrong with that? Thanks.
\_ Nope, but have you ever considered getting a low flush toilet?
\_ Low flush toilets are annoying. I switched to one, and it
seems to clog up more often (too low a water:poop ratio?).
I end up having to flush more often to prevent clogging, which
in the end wastes more water.

10/26 Enjoy it while it lasts, our privacy will soon be gone
(read http://ucb.org.csua for details)
\_ Privacy IS NOT anonymity so STFU, you wanker..
\_ You must have won your High School debate award.
\_ How about you save us the trouble?
\_ Not privacy. However, the arguments in favor of logging the
motd are fundamentally flawed. Grow up and get a sense of
perspective, guys. -John

10/26 When a clock is 133MHz, does it mean 133,000,000Hz or 133,333,333Hz?
Thanks.
\_ Neither. It means that the clock speed is most likely somewhere
between 131MHz and 135MHz: possibly a smaller tolerance, but
I can promise you it's not exactly equal to either of your numbers.

10/25 To the person looking into NSF Fellowship. The recommendations
are due on 12/7, not 11/7 like the rest of the app. Thus, you should
have time to go and get your profs to fill out the correct form.

10/25 What's the difference between the Home version and the Pro version of
XP?
\_ Pro supports SMP.
\_ Pro also has the multi user terminal server stuff built in and a
few other semi-minor things I can't recall. And it costs more if
you buy it.

10/23 I can't find this in the spec. What is the purpose of ejbPostCreate()?
\_ Wasn't this asked like 2 weeks ago? I dont remember the answer
though.
\_ to set up relationships with other beans, acquire resources, etc

10/19 PacBell's WirePro costs $$$. Is that really necessary?
\_ Send them email asking them to make it free.
\_ you got an appt? landlords are responsible for inside wiring.
besides, you can kick in wirepro the day before you need it.

10/19 What's the "best" anti-popup and/or ad-buster program out there
for Windoze?
\_ I use combination Guidescope (http://www.guidescope.com for ad busting
(also does cookies - I don't use that part) and Pop-Up Stopper
(http://www.panicware.com They work well together and I've never
seen the X-10 ad. Before Guidescope I used Junkbuster.
\_ I've tried webwasher (http://www.webwasher.com and it's alright.

10/17 Does anybody using freeamp experience frequent bus
errors/segfaults? What's the best way to avoid them?
\_ is freeamp better than xmms?
\_ I use x11amp. Works great.
\_ http://www.x11amp.org doesn't seem to point me to an mp3 player...
\_x11amp is old xmms
\_ so the old developers of x11amp didn't turn to the
more lucrative field of pr0n?
\_ nah, then it'd be xxx11amp
\_ have you seen http://www.x11amp.org

10/15 What ever happened to the three servicemen that raped a 12-year-old
in Okinawa?
\_ they were hired by yer mom
Iron Monkey reviewp
\_ I'm sure you can find it on video. It isn't a new movie.
\_ Save yourself from the tower of pain known as the metreon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/offering-page/ref=sdp_used_d/104-3752098-7396736?index=fixed-price&field-offering-type=used
In case there is a draft, are fat lazy out of shape sys admins exempt
from it? -sysadm
\_ cannon fodder!
|_ KP Duty for you!
\_ Use them as bunker buster bombs.
\_ http://www.google.com/search?q=okinawa+us+servicemen+rape+12
\_ Only 7 years in jail for a systematic rape? What a good deal we
got!
\_ "we got"? *I* didn't rape anyone.
\_ Well, many people take it as a political case between US
and Japan.
\_ Many people jump off bridges too. I take it as a
criminal case where some sickos need some serious
jail time and meds for life.
\_ Agreed. And I think 7 years is too light.

10/13 Polaroid Files for Chapter 11.
\_ So? How is this more motd worthy than Exodus, PG&E, Metricom,
MarchFirst, Excite@Home or any of the other numerous bankruptcies?
\_ it's newsworthy. quit being so grumpy.
\_ It isn't... they all made it in here too.

10/13 How many people are getting spam everyday from OptinRealBig,
@arabia.com, @lists.postmastergeneral.com, @PCMarketingDirect.com,
@postmasterglobal.com, and many others? How do you stop them?
\_ I have a bunch of lines similar to the following in
$HOME/.maildelivery: From <addr> destroy A -

10/11 \_ thanks for the responses!
Im using MySQL (pity me more) with no full outer join.
I ended up first applying to both tables a (left) outer join with
a temporary table containing all the values possible for the join
condition. (b/c the cross join already doesnt contain the desired
result). If anyone has more elegant suggestions for MySQL, pls
tell. Thx-acheng
[ reformatted ]

10/12 My manager just got us a netra t1 and an x1. They have
20 gig drives but the default parition table ignores
most of the hd space. How do I go about creating a new
parition with the extra space?
\_ format ; newfs ; vi /etc/vfstab ; mount

10/11 can someone recomend a map company that sells maps of both accuracy
and detail? the USGS maps have great topography, but no roads to
speak of, and most road maps i have ever bought are terribly
innacurate. basically, i'm asking if there are any road map companies
that acutally compile accurate data(i don't care about price.)
[ reformatted ]
\_ US or int'l?
\_ US
\_ The Thomas Brothers maps are great. Once in a (long) while
in a particularly out-of-the way community with twisty hilly
roads they will get it wrong, but mostly they are near
perfect.
[ reformatted ]
\_ Contact Jeppesen and NOAA

10/11 Anybody ever rented a cellphone for European travel? Did you get
it here or there? Is it better to just pick up phone cards? How
much does it cost? Thanks. -saarp
\_ Just buy a phone and the sim card there, it's relatively cheap ~$50

10/11 To the poster who said CS enrollment is down 100, please
provide a URL (proof). I hate rumors.
\_ um. so like
1. the web is not proof.
2. I spoke to clancy, hightower, and harvey, maybe you
heard of them?
\_ um, yeah, like, I talked to Bin Laden last week and he
said he's gay. So what is your friggin point?
\_ Dude! I heard it was down by more than that.
\_ maybe they are disbanding the CS dept altogether
\_ Nah, I heard it was going to be wrapped into the Geography Dept.

10/10 Neat ActiveX control from the NOAA that has a zoomable, high
resolution, satelite image of the WTC disaster area:
http://www.viewpoint.com/wtc/wtc_zoomview_popup.html
\_ The perspective of the picture doesn't look like it was taken from
a satellite. More like from an airplane or helicopter. --- yuen

10/9 When Binladen says he's gonna kill all the "white devils" does that
mean he's gonna spare blacks, Latinos, and others?
\_ the black muslims, maybe....
\_ the white part most likely refers to the European, and its cultural
descendent, the US. White in this case does not specifically
refers to the biology/genetic make up of the skin color, but
to the culture and the people who have been Europeanized. I
don't see how he would discriminate, say, executing a racially
black US soldier.

10/8 Why does chicken soup cure common cold? (Or is it just a myth?) Thx.
\_ It doesn't. You just fight it off.
\_ chicken soup has a _little_ bit of penicilin in it. it doesn't
help tho. (well except it is a warm liquid in your throat).
\_ it has an expectorant in it that makes your mucus flow faster in
your sinuses, which helps them recover. The warm steam vapor
coming off of it helps too, if you inhale it.
\_ as the first reply says, it doesn't. your body cures itself.
but chicken soup does help with 1) fluids 2) sustenance
and 3) some symptoms (expectorant)
\_ And 4) placebo.

10/5 I've come across the term l10n in documentation. What does it mean?
[Please keep this thread here until end of 10/05 so I get all the
answers (and sarcastic remarks)]
\_ it's short for "localization" (L, followed by 10 letters, N)
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci212496,00.html
\_ A closely related term is "i18n" -- internationalization
\_ and there's "L12y", localizability. these are the dumbest
abbreviations I've ever seen.
\_ a11y = accessibility
g11n = globalization
\_ pr0n == ???
\_ thanks!
\_ kinda like il8n ("internationalization")

10/3 Does anyone know if PacHell is planning on increasing the upstread
bandwitch for folks who now have 1500/128Kbps DSL connections some
time in future?
\_ Telco + Bandwidth increase for free? Surely you jest.
\_ why would they want to do that?

10/2 How does one collect unemployment after graduating from UCB?
[grammar g0d wuz here]
\_ you need to have had a job first and have been layed
off to get unemployment. just graduating and not having
a job and being poor doesn't automatically qualify you.
there's a state website on it somewhere.
\_ jeez... what a depressing post.
\_ Suffering! ...

10/2 Anyone know how to get an ASN if you're a small organization?
There seems to be this catch-22 thing going on where you need an ASN
to get address space from ARIN, but you need an ASN to get address
space. Problem is, we probably can't request address space from ARIN
because we're not likely to use a /20, which is the smallest space
they'll issue. -dans
\_ which begs the question of why you want an ASN? You should be able
to say 'we want to multihome with BGP, we need an ASN' to the arin
and that should be enuf. -ERic
\_ Apologies if I'm being dense here. My routing fu is weak.
From the ASN Request Template:
----
One of the following conditions must be satisfied before
receiving an ASN:
a) Unique Routing Policy
Please explain how your routing policy is different from your
provider.
b) Multi-homed Site
If your organization is currently multi-homed, please explain
exactly how you are connected to the Internet to include the
following information:
i) Exterior gateway protocol to be used
ii) The IP network addresses that will make up your AS
iii)Technical point of contact information for each of
your upstream providers/peers should include:
full name
email address
for verification
----
The problem is that we're not multi-homed yet. We want to be.
But we can't accomplish it until we get an AS. Or do we qualify
under clause a) ? - dans
\_ yah that follows under clause A. You might want to check
to see if your provider supports BGP based multihoming.
Many may not. It is also possible (but somewhat messy) to
multihome without BGP. -ERic

9/27 General meetings scheduled for 10/31 and 11/xx in 337 and 306,
\_ Ok, this one isn't
firm yet.
respectively, at 6:30. A third meeting will be announced later.
Elections will be held in the meeting on the xxth.

9/23 I need to replant the grass in part of my yard and I've been
thinking about using seed rather than sod. Other than the fact
that the grass will take longer to grow if I go the seed route
are there any other differences? thnx.

9/23 Anyone know how to count the nubmer of possible interleavings
of two sets of N objects?
\_ if by interleaving, you mean placing them in a line in any
order, then the answer is easy it's (N+M)!
if you mean elements of set 1 have to be adjacent to elements
of set 2, then the answer is also easy: N!M!2. i think. -ali
\_ Ok, I guess that was a bad statement of the problem. I think
the best example of what I'm trying to say is: take 4 fingers
on each hand; interleave them in all possible ways preserving
the order on each hand but nothing else.
\_ C(2N,N) (i.e. ((2N)!)/(N!^2)). -alexf

9/22 A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll taken a few days after the attacks
showed that Americans were supporting special measures intended for
those of Arab descent. In the survey, 58 percent backed more intensive
security checks for Arabs, including those who are United States
citizens, compared with other travelers; 49 percent favored special
identification cards for such people, and 32 percent backed "special
surveillance" for them.
\_ I love polls. Here's your poll stated differently, "More than
two thirds of Americans are opposed to any sort of 'special
surveillance' for Arab-Americans, more than half were opposed to
ID cards, and a near majority were opposed to any sort of security
checks for those of Arab descent". Polls are garbage. Most are
"push polls" with leading questions and no right answer which allow
the poll taker to make whatever they want of the answers. Ever been
polled? I have. It was 20 minutes long and they could have had me
saying *anything*. "100% of csua members polled are in favor of
deorbiting the moon to lower the price of cheese".
\_ Ooh! I'm for that. -John

9/22 http://www.austin360.com/aas/greig provides details on how the
draft works these days. No more endless deferments for college
students. If there's a draft, your ass is in the army after finals.
Which reminds me: is ROTC still around on campus or they finally
give up on Cal after their offices got destroyed again?
\_ ROTC is still around, living in Hearst Gym. -tom
\_ Why/how/when did their offices get destroyed?
\_ http://www.ulc.org I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that
ordained ministers are deferred. -Rev. John

9/22 how does one escape the "dick in the jar"-type "friendship"?
\_ do you mean "a dick in a glass case"? being a platonic friend?
\_ easily. one just takes the girl off the pedestal he put her
on, sees her for her faults; makes a move, and if she says
no, he moves on to another girl. I believe i put it once:
"You say it's good we're only friends...
..well all good things come to an end."
\_ by having friendship with someone you're not interested in?
if you're interested, pursue it, or live with it.
"when one burns one's bridges,
what a very nice fire it makes."
--ok tnx, dylan thomas
\_ I haven't had much luck with penis pumps.

9/21 Anybody here taken the notory public exam? I'm going to take it and
I'm thinking if I can wing it. Do I really need to take a class or buy
some of those study aid books to pass this? Thanks.
\_ I recommend taking at least a couple of lessons so that you don't
bomb it on the first question, "How many o's are there in the word
'notary'?"

9/21 Who was looking for the asian-looking pron star who was on the
Howard Stern Show awhile back? Did u find her name? Is it linn thomas?
\_ thomas hasn't done any porn (that i'm aware of).
\_ It was me. I saw Linn Thomas in Howard Stern Show a few nights ago
too, but no she wasn't the one. The one I was looking for had a
cuter face. It wasn't the Howard Stern Show when I saw her on TV.
I still haven't found her name yet. :-(
\_ Check archives on http://www.bomis.com
\_ Okay.

9/20 So what is the big deal about Lord of the Rings? I've tried to the
read the books, but they seem to be quite awful.
\_ I heard the first book he wrote was the only good one.
\- dont you think if you havent read any of the books or dont
have a real opinion, you should give this thread a pass? --psb

9/20 "If someone were to stand up,brandish something such as a plastic
knife and say 'This is a hijacking' or words to that effect here
is what you should do: Every one of you should stand up and
immediately throw things at that person - pillows, books,
magazines, eyeglasses, shoes -anything that will throw him off
balance and distract his attention. If he has a confederate or
two, do the same with them. Most important: get a blanket over
him, then wrestle him to floor and keep him there. We'll land the
plane at the nearest airport and the authorities will take it
from there." "Remember, there will be one of him and maybe a few
confederates, but there are 200 of you. You can overwhelm them.
"The Declaration of Independence says 'We, the people' and that's
just what it is when we're up in the air: we, the people, vs.
would-be terrorists. I don't think we are going to have any such
problem today or tomorrow or for a while, but some time down the
road, it is going to happen again and I want you to know what to
do. "Now, since we're a family for the new few hours, I'll ask
you to turn to the person next to you, introduce yourself, tell
them a little about yourself and ask them to do the same."
\_ This was all covered in a motd poll. There is universal
agreement that the passengers have to disarm and subdue
the hijacker(s) without regard to personal safety.
Everybody has to go sometime...
\_ Something is obviously wrong with your model -- most attempted
hijackings succeed if the hijcakers are organized and
reasonably sane/collected.
\_ What if the hijacker's immediate goal is something else other
than killing everyone on board? Like in the old days where
hijackers demanded some money or flying to some other country or
the release of someone from prison? -- yuen

9/20 Would somebody please repost the salon story to the effect of
"you can't bomb it back to the stone age, it's already there"?
It was written by a Afghani emmigrant.
\_Ever heard of google dumbass?
\_ grep salon ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v

9/19 Anyone else find the Subway TV ad tasteless?
\_ Right here. What a shameless act of opportunism.
\_ I think they should have donated the money instead. How much was
the ad likely to cost?
\_ I think they should have donated the money instead.

9/19 they're going to dub the war on terrorism "Infinite Justice." Who came
up with that? Stan Lee? "Terrorists are cowardly, superstitious lot..."
\_ it's got this great logo thing though!
http://www.cnn.com/images/0109/txtop6.operation.justice.jpg -dwc
\_ it's to go along with Operation Infinite Rhetoric and Operation
Infinite Replays of the WTC Blowing Up.
\_ More tasteful than Operation Final Solution.
\_ Operation Exterminate Those and Those Harboring Them

9/19 Anyone use webalizer with rotatelogs? Webalizer seems
to want a static log name even if using -p. Anyone have
a work around for this?
\_ perl
\_ umm, yeah, i figured something like that. I was hoping someone
would generously volunteer their script.

9/18 this week's sot installment is the best there is yet:
http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=6320
\_ get a life, cmlee
\_ "Taste - use erotic foods; taste your own fluids." YUCKS!
\_ Get a clue.
\_ Does that encourage people of even more isolation from the society?
\- who exactly is the target audience of this column? --psb
\_ Since it's the Daily Cal, I'd guess it's the students.
\_ Her last name is "Manlove". Haha. --dim

9/18 Would I expect performance gain by using multiple BufferedInputStream,
and if so, how much? What is its the upper limit?
\_ Why would you expect this. I don't think BIS is doing what
you think it is doing. Look at the source.

9/18 So, here's an example of wonderful reaction to the crisis (sarcasm):
http://www.98rock.com/audio/shoot.exe (from http://www.98rock.com
\_ Virus alert.
\_ This site is really disturbing... they have an "in house tribute
to the victim's & family's" in the form of an mp3 of Judas Priest's
"You've got another thing comin." <drawl>God bless america.</drawl>
\_ Welcome to florida.
"You've got another thing comin'". God bless america.

9/16 Anyone know how to turn of non-printing text in M$ Word 97-98?
I'm editing this doc that has a bunch of publishing directives
in and I'd like to view just the text, not the directives. No
I cannot use StarOffice or ApplixWare or whatever, it has to
be Word. tia.
\_ Tools...Preferences...Nonprinting characters. -tom

9/17 M$ Q:anyone know how to span multiple files in one microsoft word?
e.g. I have something over 100 pages, that's too big, so I want to
break it up into 10 different chapters, each in different files, but
somehow all linked together?