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And what does the Bill of Rights, specifically the 4th Amendment look like?

BobthePhotoGuy wrote:How else will the gov't find the next underwear bomber.

Maybe next time they'll actually pay attention when his father calls them up and personally warns them. Meanwhile, what was quite effective last time, and with the shoe bomber before him was that passengers and flight crews are no longer willing to passively cede to a terrorist or hijacker's demands... That individual is getting tackled, hogtied, and probably punched in the face a few times for good measure. Plus he'll never make it into the cockpit (about the only real improvement in air security post 9/11)

BobthePhotoGuy wrote:People are so quick to react without thinking about the why.

The TSA does not want to see or feel your junk! It is something that has to be done to make sure the planes are safe.

Safe from what exactly? From a stick of dynamite concealed up someone's rectal cavity? --Neither the nude-o-scope or current "enhanced pat down" techniques will detect that. Safe from a suicide bomber from blowing himself up in the line for the checkpoint? Oops!

BobthePhotoGuy wrote:Which plane do you want to get on? Where everyone is screened or where no one is screened?

Screened using intelligent, cost-effective, and minimally invasive techniques. For example: the magnetometers we've used for decades, dogs trained to recognize explosives patrolling the lines, behavioral profiling, and mostly improved intelligence to prevent would-be terrorists from getting to the airport in the first place.

BobthePhotoGuy wrote:Would you board a plane that no one has been screened for explosives?

Absolutely! Flown for many years without screening for anything aside from metal objects, the flights are and have always been far safer on average than a drive of an equivalent length. Recall than none of the 9/11 hijackers carried any sort of explosives? Meanwhile TSA agents are routinely missing simulated guns and explosives, and plenty of real knives and other potential weapons they should be able to detect while worrying instead about having you take off your shoes, tossing your water bottle, and getting more intimate with you than your doctor.

BobthePhotoGuy wrote:Hehe political debate on the Woot forum!!!!

Probably not the right forum for the debate, but happy to oblige anyway.

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The reality is that the naked scanners and groping don't detect anything that a metal detector, chemical scanner (or explosive-sniffing dogs) and personal profiling (checking to see the person has visited terrorist-supporting countries) wouldn't detect. The scanners only penetrate a few millimeters into the skin. The groping is not a cavity search. And that's where these dirtbags are hiding explosives -- when they're not putting them in the cargo. It's not politics, it's common sense.

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