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Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Especially the bit where the bailiff with the beer belly was told to leave the property and the muppet who tried to climb over the fence was told to cut it out. I have heard that police officers are realising they are being lead a merry dance and are hitting back by upholding the law and rights of the individuals. It's winding up the politicians, bankers, etc., but there is nothing they can do, except something just as if not more corrupt than they have already done. Cutting police numbers was a big mistake.

As I say sometimes, "BIG DAVE'S BIG SOCIETY. BIG MISTAKE."

Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

I would dearly have loved to have been a fly on the wall when TweedleDum ,TweedleDee and TweedleTw*t got back to their office.Talk about make fools of themselves!! One would have thought,,knowing they were being recorded,they would have maintained a modicum of decorum but sadly,,reverted to apeman status.

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Sgt Mo and his officers were very restrained in not arresting both the bailiffs under the Public Order Act 1986 or for a Common Law Breach of the Peace. The amount of noise one of them was making, he was a walking Breach of the Peace.

Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

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It proved,beyond reasonable doubt M'lud..that the thugs were so complacent they made threats with a video/audio running!! And that so called locksmith? In shorts? and as for Helga the 'Orrible,,Rob had to tell me she was a she lol

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Originally Posted by bluebottle

Sgt Mo and his officers were very restrained in not arresting both the bailiffs under the Public Order Act 1986 or for a Common Law Breach of the Peace. The amount of noise one of them was making, he was a walking Breach of the Peace.

I thought Sgt Mo WAS going to feel their collars when they climbed over the fence, if I was onne of the coppers, I would have arrested all three, including the toerag locksmith.

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I thought Sgt Mo WAS going to feel their collars when they climbed over the fence, if I was onne of the coppers, I would have arrested all three, including the toerag locksmith.

Arrest is a last resort when reasoning has failed. Sometimes, arrest is unavoidable and has to be carried out swiftly, especially if someone is kicking seven colours of daylight out of someone and arrest is carried out to prevent further injury to the victim. Having reviewed the video, I have to agree that Sgt Mo did come near to nicking the two bailiffs, but he managed to resolve the matter without doing so. That takes skill and experience.

Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Originally Posted by bluebottle

Arrest is a last resort when reasoning has failed. Sometimes, arrest is unavoidable and has to be carried out swiftly, especially if someone is kicking seven colours of daylight out of someone and arrest is carried out to prevent further injury to the victim. Having reviewed the video, I have to agree that Sgt Mo did come near to nicking the two bailiffs, but he managed to resolve the matter without doing so. That takes skill and experience.

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was told to leave the property and the muppet who tried to climb over the fence was told to cut it out.

You should watch it again, as he had been advised that he did not have lawful permission to enter and that he should walk away yet, barely a minute later, he stepped over the fence on the other side of the gate and - initially at least - refused to leave.

He should have been arrested there and then, if only for "behaviour calculated to cause a breach of the peace".

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Originally Posted by bizzybob

Sgt Mo is a credit to his force, and is good Inspector material.

I fully endorse that. Trouble is, once you get past Inspector, they stick you behind a desk. Unless you are in CID, you tend to lose touch with what is going on around the manor, unless you are the sort of senior officer who is "hands on" and leads from the front.

Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

Re: Eviction problems for Bailiff

Having reviewed the video, I have to agree that Sgt Mo did come near to nicking the two bailiffs, but he managed to resolve the matter without doing so. That takes skill and experience.

I had a problem which was resolved this way. I see the people who were causing the problem most days. I'm always thankful the police didn't actually arrest or anything, even though it took quite a few visits and talking. It took about 2 years for it to sink in what an amazing job the police had done.

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Whilst I am in absolutely no doubt that Paul Higgs is an utter thug and a complete moron and I think that it is, quite frankly, an utter disgrace that people like him are allowed to represent our courts... BUT...

At around 20:18 when the "resisters" start talking about the signature on the mortgage agreement "creating the money" etc, it becomes quite clear that these people were subscribing to some David Icke-like concept of Freeman-on-the-Land or the like which, quite frankly, is complete and utter nonsense and loses a lot of people their homes!!

Furthermore, the legislation quoted by the chap in the video makes it illegal to use force to take a residential property without lawful excuse and, unless I am very very much mistaken, enforcement of a court warrant is probably lawful excuse.

The tactics employed against the thuggish bailiffs succeeded because the police don't always completely understand the law and, in my opinion more likely, because the bailiffs were so arrogant that they probably annoyed even the police.

In any event, although the bailiffs might have been sent away this time they returned a short time later with High Court Enforcement Officers and the eviction took place.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it is simply a myth that tactics such as those displayed in the video work in anything other than the very very short-term. In my view, such myths should not be perpetuated on a forum called the Legal Beagles.