Bill makes an estimated 500K per speaking engagement and Hillary makes about 250K per engagement.
In less than two months their parents could pay it off for her.
Besides if it's in Manhattan it has bed bugs.

1) I DON'T hate black people. But a lot of people believe that I do, so fuck it.
2) Racism exists in this country and I'm sorry to say that it always will. So will sexism, classism, elitism and every other kind of "ism" you can name. People have ALWAYS picked on anyone they could, and they always will. That's simple human nature and you'll see it over and over again if you study history.
3) Being black is no excuse for failure. You may have a steeper climb, but you can make it. Look around. A lot of black people have. You can do it, too.
4) Stop making your own bed and bitching about sleeping in it. Black people who listen to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and expect the government to give them something for nothing are blind sheep. Those "leaders" have a vested interest in keeping the slaves on the plantation. If you listen to them, that's where you'll stay.
5) Learn to read and write. That's not "acting white." That's the key to success anywhere you want to go. And ANYBODY can master those tools.
6) Nobody ever said life was fair. It ain't and it never will be. Get over that fact. You're not the only people ever pissed on by life. Look at the Jews and the Vietnamese. THEY were pissed on, but they didn't lay there in the puddle to be pissed on again.
7) I've never liked labor unions because they preach the lowest common denominator as a standard for performance. I do not believe that we should dumb down the rest of society, create "4.6" GPAs and engage in the tacit racism of low expectations for black people. That kind of crap only exacerbates the problem.
8) Black men: raise your children. He doesn't know his kid's names, but that doesn't matter to him. He thinks he's a man. Dogs do what he did. Fathers don't.
9) Accept responsibility for your own actions. I know that it's a lot to ask in today's victim-oriented society, but do you really believe that hip-hop and rap, Ebonics and baggy pants are the way to get out of the ghetto? I don't think so. I believe it's the way to keep yourself mired there and it's YOUR CHOICE TO MAKE.
10) Blame all of your problems on ME. That's right. If you are unemployed, living on a welfare check, semi-raising illegitimate children and unable to read the want ads in the newspaper, I DID THAT TO YOU. Me. Whitey.

WhaaaAt?

R2? I think you are on the wrong thread dear.
Why is Chelsea Clinton gonna live in a 10 million dollar apt? Sheesh. And I just do not see her parents buying her an apt that expensive. I have seen their Chappaqua NY house up close- it is a medium size house on an uppper middle class cul de sac. I gather they are looking or have purchased a second home in the Hamptons and also have a place in DC although I think they may rent it. Anyone know?

I don't think 10 million is expensive in NYC, but I could be wrong. Poor R2.

I really lost the genetic lottery.

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R5, yes 10 million IS expensive in NYC. I've lived here all my life.

I want to know what thread r2 thinks he is in? That sounds way more interesting than this!

Would you believe this is the lead story for the Daily Mail today? The photo on their portal page is HUGE.

Remember when Bill and Hill had to borrow money to come up with the downpayment on the Chappaqua house before he left office? My, how times have changed. At least someone is doing ok in this shit economy.

Does Chelsea have a job?

Why, yes, R11, she is one of America's most trusted, beloved, and hard-working journalists. Just ask Brian Williams.

Chelsea obviously needs a safety, but she doesn't an over the top place that this.

Just looked at the photos

Weren't there rumors that her marriage to Mezvinsky was on rather shaky grounds?

I heard Chelsea on a radio interview not long ago and her tone of voice sounds exactly like Hillary's.

Yeah I thought they were divorcing.

[quote]Why, yes, she is one of America's most trusted, beloved, and hard-working journalists.
Oh, so she's a blogger? Like that McCain girl?

Hope they have enough money leftover to replace that distressing chandelier over the dining table.

I need your valued opinion my friends at Datalounge. Do you think my Chelsea is a lesbian?

Hills

[quote]Chelsea obviously needs a safety, but she doesn't an over the top place that this.
Que?

Hillary, hon, my dad was one, and look at how great he was.

Marlo T.

Great space. Seems enormous.
I think after growing up in the White House, and being the brunt of a lot of mean jokes, she deserves it.

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Let them eat cak!

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Mum and Dad need to park their money somewhere. At least it will be lived in, unlike so many other million-dollar condos in Manhattan owned by global oligarchs.

There are nicer places in the city for $10.5 million, but a newcomer wouldn't know that.
Dicey neighborhood at night. Idling buses headed to Westchester on 26th during the day. Can't get into and out of the city by car easily from 26 and Mad. Is there a parking garage in the building? Doesn't seem to be a well thoughout decision.

She really is the people's princess.

Did Datalounge finally decide on when we start killing the rich?

Imagine grocery shopping in that neighborhood. Ick.

Right R30. Eataly for groceries, but worse than that there's no liquor store!

[quote] I have seen their Chappaqua NY house up close- it is a medium size house on an uppper middle class cul de sac. I gather they are looking or have purchased a second home in the Hamptons
Not that I know of yet. I hear they are looking, though. Up until now, whenever they came out here, it was for a fundraiser and they stayed with friends. They were not often together, though. Usually it was Bill who came out here and stayed with friends. Hillary was a workaholic as Secretary of State. .

Hamptonite

Does Marc have a job now or is he still a ski bum?

Two words: conspicuous consumption.
I detest Chelsea Clinton. And no, I'm not a freeper, I'm a Democrat. Despite all the fawning press she gets (She's so smart! She's so down to earth! She's become quite a beauty!), she seems to me like a snobbish, spoiled, moneygrubbing little twat who gets high profile, very high paying jobs because her last name is Clinton.
Since marrying her her poor husband has become seedier and seedier looking. In photographs with her he looks like a homeless person: rumpled, with his hair (what's left of it) uncombed and face shadowed with beard stubble. I guess it's not easy being married to Chelsea Clinton.

Why didn't Chelsea move to Chelsea?

Strange...I though Kyle Richards owned that apartment.

$10.5 million to live where you used to be able to pick up a hooker and and a gram of blow for $100 combined?
What a waste. How funny that the celebrities of yesteryear used to be fine with buildings like the Dakota.

R34,
She grew up in the White House. That qualifies her for all kinds of high-paying work, especially with her degree from Oxford. She didn't ask to be born into that life, and it's no picnic having to spend your entire adolescence at 1600 Penn.
I'm sure as hell glad my paernts never won, or ran. Growing up in NYC was bad enough.

Word at Curbed Hamptons was that the Clinton's have been looking for a place in the Hamptons.... but could that mean Hillary won't run?
Mutt Romney could have 20 houses all over the country and the media won't care, but just ONE home in the artsy-fartsy, glittery, eastern liberal establishment (aka Jewish) Hamptons and Fox will never let it go. Sure, it's fine that Giuliani has a place out here, but when a democrat has a place here it's all, "Paris Hilton, art gallery openings, elitists pretending to care about the little guy" from the rightiwing media. Celebrity culture, ewww!

[quote] who gets high profile, very high paying jobs because her last name is Clinton.
This makes her no different from most children of prominent or wealthy people.

Can you imagine how much damage having daddy stick cigars up Monica Lewinsky's hoo hoo did to young Chelsea's psyche? If I were her I'd act like an entitled cunt all day long.

"Mutt Romney could have 20 houses all over the country and the media won't care, "
Are you fucking kidding me? I know the details about all his houses and his kids too. Even their fucking horses and cars.

The left wing rich pigs get a pass!

R27, how do you know so much about buses and tunnels? Who ever needs to leave Manhattan? I smell B&T!

UES%20for%20life

For starters, she needs the security because her parents will be staying now and again with the forthcoming grandchildren. And there is a slight but plausible possibility that grandma will be President of the United States at that time.

I want a townhouse. Have you ever looked at townhouses? Well in Brooklyn they call them brownstones. They are like a million and a half there. Well, in Manhattan, they are about 20 million! Why is Manhattan that much more expensive than Brooklyn? Well, don't answer that, I know the answer. Manhattan is Manhattan and Brooklyn is...well, Brooklyn.

[quote]The left wing rich pigs get a pass!
Marc Rich certainly got one from President Clinton.

[quote]Why is Manhattan that much more expensive than Brooklyn?
Location, Location, Location!

Barbara%20Corcoran

I don't mean this nasty but couldn't she have used some of that money on her face? Why is she walking around with that thing...STILL? I'm not being sexist either because I think a lot of men could do with a little nip and tuck too. There's just no excuse for being dog ugly when there's so many advancements in cosmetic surgery.

Mezvinsky is wealthy. He doesn't need the in-laws to buy a place, even at 10.5 million, which, btw, is probably the reported price.
I'll bet the actual price is lower.

Della

Madison Square park has been traditionally a work neighborhood.
Residential housing there is pretty new.

Wow, this is the kind of venom you guys usually save for out gay guys, minorities, and women. I thought the Clintons were sacred ground never to be desecrated. What did poor Chelsea do to deserve this?

[quote]What did poor Chelsea do to deserve this?
NOTHING!
And it's precisely because she doesn't deserve this ($10.5 million apt.) we are bitching.

Wasn't CC supposed to be some kind of "investment banker"?

R 27 here. Live in Manhattan (in the Gramercy area) with summer home (that's why I leave Manattan), R44. Quite familiar with Chelsea's nabe, as well as logistics required to arrive and depart city during summer season.

None of you know shit about anything.
I lived in the neighborhood for more than 21 years and there's been several grocery stores within walking distance for ages. It's not like they're living in Maine, where you have to travel 30 minutes to buy milk, nor are you likely run into Chelsea at the Whole Foods on 24th, so calm down. I'm sure her staples are delivered or the help take care of that.
It's a great central location north of a lovely park with a great but absolutely stinky dog run (get rid of the pebbles already), decent shopping on 5th and good restaurants nearby.
Yes, the buses parked at 26th & Madison are annoying, but they're allowed to idle as much. And who's home during the day to hear and smell all that?

The area around Madison Square Park is becoming increasingly chic and if they live east of the park then that's more the overall Gramercy Park neigbhorhood which has been commanding exorbitant real estate prices for years now.
I actually think it's a cool choice. Much better than choosing something predictable like the West Village, SoHo or TriBeCa like every other "trying to be hip" yuppie in their thirties.
An even more interesting choice would have been if they moved to Cobble Hill or Park Slope. They would have been able to buy a magnificent brownstone mansion for that price range.

Did you think Chelsea was ever going to marry poor? Of course her husband is a rich Jewish finance guy.

R61, liberals can be part of the 1% without criticism from others on the left. It's a paradox

Love r2

Not bad for the children of four public servants.

[quote]liberals can be part of the 1% without criticism from others on the left. It's a paradox
Liberals aren't on the left. Liberalism is a centrist position.

IMHO, of course.

[quote]liberals can be part of the 1% without criticism from others on the left. It's a paradox
No, a reality. Rich liberals aren't Rich Coservatives....big difference.

Democrats%20for%20democracy.

"She grew up in the White House. That qualifies her for all kinds of high-paying work, especially with her degree from Oxford.'
What qualified her for her cushy job as a "reporter" for NBC? NOTHING! Nothing except her last name. And as many people commented, she sucked at it.

Poor Chelsea, she'll never do anything right.

I just have Clinton fatigue. I just wish they'd go a way. At least for a little while.

"For starters, she needs the security because her parents will be staying now and again with the forthcoming grandchildren. And there is a slight but plausible possibility that grandma will be President of the United States at that time."
Boy, YOU sure have all their futures mapped out.
What makes you think there will be any "forthcoming grandchildren?" Chelsea Clinton doesn't strike me as the maternal type; she seems very driven and career-oriented and self-centered. I don't think there will be any little rugrats coming along any time soon for Grandma Hillary and Grandpa Bill to bounce on their arthritic knees.
As for "grandma" being President of the United States in the near future..well, I'd say that possibility is very, very, very slight indeed.

[quote]Up until now, whenever they came out here, it was for a fundraiser and they stayed with friends. They were not often together, though. Usually it was Bill who came out here and stayed with friends. Hillary was a workaholic as Secretary of State.
Now that she's no longer Sec of State, what excuse will they use for living separately?

I don't think this is sour grapes, but it's unseemly for her to be living in a huge place like that. Who needs a 5000 square foot apartment with 4 bedrooms and 5-1/2 baths? Aren't Democrats supposed to be a little more enlightened and aware about ostentatious lifestyles?

R34, 67 70 - Wow, R45 merely offers a perfectly plausible scenario for a young, married woman whose father happens to be an ex-POTUS and her mother has a better than fair chance at becoming the next POTUS and you shit on him for "mapping out her future?
Yet, you seem to know Chelsea Clinton and her heart better than the rest of us put together.
Let's see:
She's snobbish, spoiled, moneygrubbing little twat.
She's responsible for her husband's lack of motivation and seedy, disheveled appearance.
She's not maternal, very driven and career-oriented and self-centered.
Could you please validly describe all (or at least some) of the behavior that leads you to conclude that she is everything you describe? You realize that you don't sound terribly sane, don't you?
Is your name Rick Santorum by chance?

r66, explain because a lot of rich libs are the greediest people out there.

Soros%2C%20A%20list%20actors%20etc%20etc

Chelsea and hilary were known for being super cold assholes in the 90's

I wonder if Hillary will sell her Wash,DC house?

Good for her.
Isn't her husband from a rich family?
She needs to be in a building with privacy and good security.

I had to stand between Bill and Hillary at a performance of "Ann" starring Holland Taylor.

"Dicey neighborhood at night."
Well, yes, if you consider any real sense of actually being in Manhattan dicey. Apart from that, as someone who lives two blocks away, you're completely full of shit.

They often find a body in Madison Square Park on "Law & Order." In reality, it's safe.

Chelsea will be seen in the line at Shake Shack this summer. Paparazzi in the trees!

Frankly, If I had that kind of money I'd rather live in Tribeca or W. Village. If for not other reason then to be able to run on the promenade; enjoy the sunset.
And I'd never pay that kind of money for a place without a spectacular view. A location and a view is what you pay for in Manhattan.

I really don't think there are any dicey neighborhoods in Manhattan any longer. Even Harlem is more or less gentrified now.

If for no* other

88

Clinton's ownership of the cell tower rights in places like Haiti are what's funding this. NYU and her little reporter job certainly isn't paying for it, neither is the salary of her husband who's much too young to afford that; especially after his parents filed for bankruptcy.
This is crooked money paying for this, don't doubt it.

[quote] Aren't Democrats supposed to be a little more enlightened and aware about ostentatious lifestyles?
Wow, you're very naive. If that had come from a child, it might be charming. When it comes from an adult, it's embarrassing.

It happens to be an incredibly awesome neighborhood. totally central and very cool. I have worked here for over 20 years and live on the upper east and increasingly have been thinking about moving closer to work because the neighborhood keeps getting better and better.... largely thanks to Danny Meyer.
And they just opened a Sarabeth's on 27th!

Too much white! I'm going blind from the glare!

Is Aiello's still in that neighborhood? They had the best pizza and wings. They used to be in the 30s back when I lived on 34th St. Ron Darling used to get pizza there.

Gorgeous place, once some real furniture and decorating happens, it will be SPECTACULAR!

R94, I'm with you. I was thinking the same thing.
R96, if that is what you define as gorgeous and spectacular living, then all power to you. I prefer class, elegance, and history than a place that looks like an IKEA showroom for 10.5 million.

I hate it, hate IT, HATE IT.

jealousDler

On the up side, it's screaming close to the 40/40 Club.

Jay-Z

This is how it's done kids, sleek modern and clean teen! Love it, much better than skank-ho Ethan Hawkes. But Turtle Bay is land of the married closet cases!

Cookie Wong, realtor

Of course the article could be a bunch of bullshit. Lots of stuff in the Daily News is you know. Either she is not buying that apt at all, or the price is not 10.5 million.

Nothing beats a couple of Saturdays ago, when Daily News ran the mind blowing headline: MAN SUCKED TO DEATH IN BED" (the Fl. sinkhole death)

As someone up thread said, are they paying 10 million or is that the regular people price? I guess I was I've been in a coma, but recently learned that celebs rarely pay full price for anything.

I hope they have noisy upstairs neighbors and have to move out. Cheap construction, you know.

NYC%20coop%20lawyer

[quote]WOW! that place is lifeless as hell!It's very sterile, boring, and dull! There is no character and charm.
The same can be said of Chelsea Clinton's contributions to NBC Nightly News.

R85 You live 2 blocks away -- street blocks, avenue blocks which? Because 2 blocks in any direction is like no man's land. And cursing is not very nice.
R89. Doesn’t live in Manhattan; “I really don't think there are any dicey neighborhoods in Manhattan any longer.” Whatever.
R93. If Danny Meyer and Sarabeth’s define your definition of “an incredibly awesome neighborhood. totally central and very cool”, I would suggest moving to Restaurant Row. I think you’ll be happy there.
R95. Aiello’s moved a little west in the late nineties, I think. Sadly burned down a few years ago. But wow you are right. Best wings ever and white clam pizza and then across the street to the movies afterwards, which is now a multi-plex. Thanks for the memories!