Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

I doubt it will happen again, at least now with the same people involved. Everyone involved worked hard on it and it seems every time I seen mentioned of the test at least one person calls it worthless since we didn't spend 100 times more time and money on it.

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

Originally Posted by sundownz

I doubt it will happen again, at least now with the same people involved. Everyone involved worked hard on it and it seems every time I seen mentioned of the test at least one person calls it worthless since we didn't spend 100 times more time and money on it.

Why would you...It isn't like you reaped anything you sowed with the effort.

Black cat, white cat...all that matters is that it catches mice. -Deng Xiaoing

I do homework for money. I specialize in finance. PM me for estimates.

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

Originally Posted by 02parkave

truth. it was a totally useless test anyhow.. who cares?

welcome to my first angry post . Go **** yourself and the horse you road in on . I'm sorry your favorite sub wasn't the end all be all . To say it was a useless test is far from accurate . I won't ever participate again because of asshats like yourself . Thank you and please drive through...............

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

Originally Posted by ramos

welcome to my first angry post . Go **** yourself and the horse you road in on . I'm sorry your favorite sub wasn't the end all be all . To say it was a useless test is far from accurate . I won't ever participate again because of asshats like yourself . Thank you and please drive through...............

My sub ****** @ SPL but was rated good @ SQ.

So much for Pioneer's SPL woofers....

Black cat, white cat...all that matters is that it catches mice. -Deng Xiaoing

I do homework for money. I specialize in finance. PM me for estimates.

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

Originally Posted by ramos

welcome to my first angry post . Go **** yourself and the horse you road in on . I'm sorry your favorite sub wasn't the end all be all . To say it was a useless test is far from accurate . I won't ever participate again because of asshats like yourself . Thank you and please drive through...............

I couldn't care any less which sub "won" (and actually, i couldnt care less about many off the woofers in the test.. it was a bunch of woofers in a generic boxes, not made for every sub.. hmm somehow, that doesn't seem to be a good test to me. not to mention that a woofer with "beyond excellent build quality" died off of 400 watts, early in the test, for no apparent reason. i could care less if you participate again. it was a useless test. sorry you do not agree.. so you can go "**** yourself" thank you and drive through

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

Originally Posted by 02parkave

apparently not. cant take a little criticism, i guess

Think so ? Water off a ducks back my man. Actually it's not that your criticising me that bothers me . Never said it was the end all be all. Never saw one post stating it as such . If you would have read anything before you decided it was completely worthless, you would have realized that it was stated many times over the purpose and reason things were done the way they were done. It was meant to give the average joe smho an idea of how different subs perform in similar conditions. Go back over to realm of excursion and note how many times it's mentioned that something may perform differently in optimal conditions.

Re: So will there be a 8", 10", 12", 15" or 18" challenge this year ?

After the 8" and 12" challenge I don't think many of us will be up for hosting another event like that. The last challenge, the 12" challenge, went well for those who participated in the actual event. It was only after we posted the information did we see that people focused on only a few numbers and looked over the rest of the information. We had a SQ and an SPL portion, but again only a few SPL numbers were looked at. That, and our testing was completely wrong and full of faults (apparently). And with that kind of response from the test results, who would want to do another one just to be poked at after it was done?

Everyone got to see what the drivers could really do and the challenge and it was great for everyone that attended. I didn't know Chad was out that much on food though. I think small meets might be where it's at from now on. Like Chad said, we did the 8" and 12" meet with great results but the results weren't appreciated as well as everyone was hoping. I don't think Chad will do another meet and I know that I'm not going to host one (for numerous reasons - bias due to the obvious, errors, etc). Too bad really.