Zoltar wrote:Given things hit so hard in Ulduar and tanks are focusing more on avoidance rather than BV is anyone using agility food rather than strength food. With crusade spec threat is really a non issue for me so was wondering if I would be better off switching from strength food to agility food for the added survivability? Thoughts.

I switched to agility food my second week into Ulduar. This is also about the time I started switching to agility gems (versus dodge) and enchants (gloves and weapon.) So yeah, for me, agility was the way to go.

Blood lust effectively affects only melee and SoV strikes. It's an overall 13.8% increase in damage scalars (per strike damage not dps) for those two abilities. This leads to cirt being 13.8% more effective under the affects of bloodlust. Now interestingly enough, the changes in our scaling and threat in 3.2 leads to both potion being neck and neck for threat, with me being unable to call a winner without more exact numbers and even then gear differences might mess that up. But for dps, which is what you asked, the haste potion crushes the spell/crit one. The haste potion is ~30% more effective for dps which is unlikely to be unseated by uncertainties in the numbers used.

These results are drawn from theck's 3.2 work and will change some in 3.2.2

remember that outside of bloodlust, the haste potion will beat the spell/crit in both dps and tps.

On average there is no difference to using a haste potion in or outside of Bloodlust for melee. Now if there is some movement involved it would get trickier but overall you can rest easy knowing haste doesn't scale with itself.

Now please keep in mind that for casters it is possible to get too much haste, where they are casting channeled spells faster than the minimum GCD of 1 second.

Despite excellent scaling on str, the insane str potion performs poorly. For threat, a haste potion is comparable but for dps, the haste potion still wins. Additionally, there is the issue of its components being rare and being unsafe to use while tanking (which defeats the threat use).