This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

There was a time in the distant past where men with names such as Washington, Jefferson, Payne, Franklin, and Madison that did not hide in stating their objections or proposed means of protecting the nation of which they also played part in the founding.

Imagine that for a moment; not reading of people in history books in hopes that said "history" was even remotely close to actuality, but KNOWING first-hand the things that had transpired as these were your fellow countrymen, your neighbors, your friends.

It was this direct connection to both the understanding of the tyrannical oppression present, as well as the sacrifices, threat(s) to themselves and their families, and the time in the ditches that had been necessary to break this yoke of tyranny from their shoulders.

Because of these direct connections, they understood how important it was to ensure the continuation of the belief system that all were possession of CERTAIN INALIENABLE RIGHTS, ENDOWED BY THE CREATOR. They moved and stipulated such by putting it on paper - not covered in legalese, but written in very plain English so that even an elementary level 18th century education could not only understand, but also take advantage and reap the benefits of.

For these past 237 years, the citizenry of and visitors to this country, and arguably the entire world, have benefited from the positive effects of this new experiment in which all were assured the guarantees of LIFE, LIBERTY, and PURSUIT of HAPPINESS.

There is one major attribute that allows this experiment to work; MATURITY - on both a personal physical level, as well as on a personal spiritual one. It is necessary for a person to possess AND exhibit the marks of maturity in order to be content in another's happiness.

Dictatorial rulers throughout history have lacked this one, singular attribute of maturity. Dictatorial rulers are, essentially, spoiled, narcissistic children who have never been forced to grow up. They've never had to work for what they have; they've never experienced the hardships of making their own way in this world; they've never struggled to balance work and family, or to even feed that family. These have never troubled themselves with visiting the local grocery, much less balancing their grocery budget while maintaining a healthy diet for their family - and forget about growing anything for themselves.

It is this spoiled brat that becomes the dictator. It is the spoiled brat that cannot find happiness within their countrymen's success, achievement, or happiness. It is the spoiled brat that throws the temper-tantrum at any point things don't seem to go their way. It is the spoiled brat that believes taking from others to fill their own toy box (or line their pockets) is acceptable with no repercussions. It is the spoiled brat that believes the entire world is for their taking and exploitation, with zero regard for the other members of their society.

Even more so, it is the spoiled brat that forms alliances and allegiances of opportunity and convenience, each tenuous under the surface, and readily discarded at the first sign of difficulty or as a more attractive alliance surfaces - if even only temporary. It is the narcissist that creates faux friendships that exist only for their own personal benefit. It is the spoiled brat that, while destroying the thinly veiled alliances they have made, care nothing of the damage (physical, emotional, psychological) that follows their trail of traitorous narcissism.

The White House/ Washington D.C. has devolved into the nursery room for spoiled, narcissistic children, and the alliances and allegiances made and destroyed will have heavy bearing on this country for generations to come.

In the near future, it is as probable as it is possible that we, the current populous of the United States of America, may have the same opportunities of KNOWING the men and women responsible for the next breaking of the yoke, but it will require the same understanding and recognition of the conditions stemming from the yoke of tyranny, the same understanding of the sacrifices, the same understanding of threats to ourselves and families, and the same understanding of the work to be done in the ditches.

The aforementioned men cannot be called upon any longer, though their memories and positions remain. It is we, the ADULTS of MATURITY that must ensure the sentiments of The Declaration of Independence and The US Constitution never die. It is we, the adults, who are tasked with the oversight of the children, and if need be, send them off to bed without their dinner.

God bless us allGodspeed to all who are here.

Quoting: ClydeX

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM

Thanks for that Clyde, stand up and keep your freedoms, liberties and rights. I do not consent and waive all benefits and privleges to the corprate entity that wishes to control and enslave the remaining part of the world who can still do something about the usurptation of your natural rights.

WAKE UP AMERICA

WAKE UP AMERICA"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President."A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

At this point, its quite clear that Obama is insane. He CAN NOT order the execute of ANY American. If ANY Americans are MURDERED under the order of Barack Obama, he should be ARRESTED and TRIED FOR MURDER.

If any American is suspected of being a terrorist then they are to be arrested, charged with a crime and a trial is to commence. Let the JURY OF THEIR PEERS decide their fate. Not an INSANE President.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

Bush and Obama have set us back 800 years.

NBC News reports:

Legal experts expressed grave reservations Tuesday about an Obama administration memo concluding that the United States can order the killing of American citizens believed to be affiliated with al-Qaida – with one saying the White House was acting as "judge, jury, and executioner."

"Anyone should be concerned when the president and his lawyers make up their own interpretation of the law or their own rules," said Mary Ellen O'Connell, a law professor at the University of Notre Dame and an authority on international law and the use of force.

"This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done," she added...

Glenn Greenwald, a constitutional lawyer who writes about security and liberty for the British newspaper The Guardian, described the memo as "fundamentally misleading," with a clinical tone that disguises "the radical and dangerous power it purports to authorize."

"If you believe the president has the power to order U.S. citizens executed far from any battlefield with no charges or trial, then it's truly hard to conceive of any asserted power you would find objectionable..."

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

IMPEACH NOW!!!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2307487

This cannot be allowed to continue. Enough of this long line of criminals---Clintons, the Bushes, Obama---THEY SHOULD ALL BE ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR TREASON or whichever of their many crimes that can be successfully prosecuted.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

I updated my signature in honor of this thread:

The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

At this point, its quite clear that Obama is insane. He CAN NOT order the execute of ANY American. If ANY Americans are MURDERED under the order of Barack Obama, he should be ARRESTED and TRIED FOR MURDER.

If any American is suspected of being a terrorist then they are to be arrested, charged with a crime and a trial is to commence. Let the JURY OF THEIR PEERS decide their fate. Not an INSANE President.

If this doesnt wake Americans up, we are toast.

Members of "Al-Qaida" today, Christians tomorrow.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9107938

Not even AQ - remember these folks refused to even call AQ terrorist until recently. I highly doubt that the same people who are arming them (MB/AQ, all the same) and insisting they get a fair trial in American courts are now going to turn around and use drone against them.

The leaked documents over the years have made it very clear who they consider their enemy.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

IMPEACH NOW!!!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2307487

To hell with "impeachment" - you need an accountable congress to do that, and the CONgress is sleeping in the same lice-infested bed as the president, with the overlords of the shadow government.

"KILL THEM ALL", I say.

Quoting: LT Prepper

agreed.. it is past time to take action.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354

The core Christian value of “Tolerance” is rooted in the truth that while these individuals conduct themselves in a manner offensive to, and destructive of our society which they inhabit, it would be a greater injustice for us to root them out and constrain them by violent and/or opressive measures.In this day, we are beyond rightful tolerance, because it is no longer true that "to root them out is the greater evil".

The survival of our beliefs and culture now depend upon our will and ability to root out and destroy the amoral, corrupt influences which are destroying us. We are Americans, and our survival depends upon defending and promoting the values which forged us as a people and a nation. Our enemies name themselves by their words and deeds, and we must plainly acknowlege that fact, and respond accordingly.Article: [link to ncrenegade.com]

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

Bush and Obama have set us back 800 years.

NBC News reports:

Legal experts expressed grave reservations Tuesday about an Obama administration memo concluding that the United States can order the killing of American citizens believed to be affiliated with al-Qaida – with one saying the White House was acting as "judge, jury, and executioner."

"Anyone should be concerned when the president and his lawyers make up their own interpretation of the law or their own rules," said Mary Ellen O'Connell, a law professor at the University of Notre Dame and an authority on international law and the use of force.

"This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done," she added...

Glenn Greenwald, a constitutional lawyer who writes about security and liberty for the British newspaper The Guardian, described the memo as "fundamentally misleading," with a clinical tone that disguises "the radical and dangerous power it purports to authorize."

"If you believe the president has the power to order U.S. citizens executed far from any battlefield with no charges or trial, then it's truly hard to conceive of any asserted power you would find objectionable..."

I'd dispute only the 800 year part, contract killing dates back nearly as long as evil and crime itself

Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

Top constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley notes:

In plain language, [the Obama administration memo] means that [any Americans can be assassinated if] the President considers the citizens to be a threat in the future. Moreover, the memo allows killings when an attempt to capture the person would pose an “undue risk” to U.S. personnel. That undue risk is left undefined.

So... lots of GLPers are gonna be blown up in the near future.

Do you feel like starting a revolution now?

No? Not yet? Too soon?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31735180

Gotta love how this decision is made by ONE man.

Reeks of a dictatorship in the making.

Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

What's this "in the making" qualifier BS?

Quoting: Professor Xavier

Understated elegance on my part.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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I'm a democrat and I say IMPEACH!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 954740

Nice to here from an awake Democrat, it seems that Democratic party favorite ACLU is the only voice that is disenting.

Here is the bottom line on the ACLU analysis published on 2/4:

... Finally, the white paper assumes a key conclusion: It takes as a given that the target of the strike will be a "senior operational leader of al-Qa'ida or an associated force of al-Qa'ida," and it reasons from that premise that judicial process is unnecessary. This is a little bit like assuming that the defendant is guilty and then asking whether it's useful to have a trial. Perhaps the white paper omits analysis that appears in the Justice Department's legal memos, but again the legal memos are, inexcusably, still secret.

My colleagues will have more to say about the white paper soon, but my initial reaction is that the paper only underscores the irresponsible extravagance of the government's central claim. Even if the Obama administration is convinced of its own fundamental trustworthiness, the power this white paper sets out will be available to every future president—and every "informed high-level official" (!)—in every future conflict. As I said to Isikoff, that's truly a chilling thought.

Where are the Republicans? They are off in the background, showing off their true colors, bought with bribes and threats from TPTB, the globalists, the banksters.

Anybody who thinks that the Republican party is looking after your interests, it might be time to reassess that issue.

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Here is an update on the lawsuit blocking NDAA:

Military Arrest in Doubt as U.S. Fights Rookie Judge

Katherine Forrest, a federal judge appointed by President Barack Obama who less than a year later blocked a controversial military-detention law, will have that ruling tested as an appeals court considers the government’s claim that her decision would irreparably damage national security. [link to www.businessweek.com]

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They are all one party, regardless of the name, and they are not our friends any more, if they ever were.

************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”-- Jorge Luis Borges~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer."-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei

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Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

Uhhmmmmmm............

I'm "borrowing" this one. Good stuff

Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

barry bounel soebarkah is a FUCKING CRIMINAL FELON

police officers on GLP, get off your ass and talk to each other. talk to your superiors. demand a strike in DC until this imposter gives himself over, peaceful or otherwise.

it's disguisting we are still going on day-by-day like everything is cream & peaches.

Quoting: SteamrolledGobias

It's cream and peaches because the public is being bombarded by what I believe are strong magnetic fields. These fields cause mutual inductance within the brain. Typically, this would be impossible as there is not enough power to evoke currents in the brain through mutual inductance much less even penetrate the skull. In addition, how could the currents evoked be managed to elicit general emotional states or cognitive confusion/critical thinking shutdown? I am not sure how this has been overcome, technically. Even Tesla stated that there was not enough power in mutual inductance to pass electricity via wireless.

The "mind control" I am referring to very high tech.

Look around, this must be true. There is no general outrage... people are sleeping, literally. If the visual cortex is stimulated with a flicker rate of 4hz to 6hz then cognitive computation shuts down... this is where TV comes in. The move to HD has enhanced this technique. This is not the inductance I speak of above, but an even more concerning mind control.

We are under mutual inductance/brain entrainment mind control. Look around... this is why it is peaches and cream. How do we block it???

Use your own entrainment software, Google it. Do this daily. Stop watching television except for what you choose from DVDs streaming. The content is important, too.

Certain drug combinations can block it but this is not a viable method for most people.

Faraday cages do not touch the inductance because we are dealing with magnetic fields not electrical fields. If these magnetic fields are being directed via a precise coordinate and tracking system then this technology is where a large portion of defense spending has been going. This would be technology that in academia would be considered beyond the scope of what is known about electromagnetism.

I am not sure how to permanently block this, but human adaptation to danger is why we are all here today. Human attack upon human is just another iteration of the Earth's forces pushing evolution forward. The human storm bombarding... humans is by far the biggest evolutionary challenge we have been dealt yet (weather, earthquakes, volcanoes, food procurement being the ones ware species as a whole have overcome even though food is still a challenge to many). It is my opinion that if our species survives this final test, we will come to homeostasis (peace) on Earth.

We must overcome this mind control as a first step to pushing back against this carnal, destructive force coming from our own species.

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King Barry needs to destroy the Constitution in order to turn America into his dream communist country.

Quoting: Epic Beard Guy

You do know that Obama is not master- minding these plans, right?

He's the pretty package with the smooth voice that tells us the lies... Not the 'brains'.

I thought everybody knew that, unless you're....

A SHILL?!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044

Does your argument argue against impeaching Obama or having him arrested? No, it doesn't.

No president is a loner or hermit. The job by its very nature means lots of interaction with powerful and influential interests. Of course they have powerful people behind them. Stop acting like you've issued a revelation few people are aware of.

Also don't under estimate Obama's intelligence and craftiness. He is as smart as he is evil.

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They're attempting to open the doors to kill Americans for anything they consider subversive. Precisely why they want you disarmed. I'm sure those of you who read scripture can see the clear path to the beast system, but the non-believers will merely chalk all of the happenings (the school shootings, mall shootings, the spike in immorality, the general mean spiritedness of people, an obvious government leaning towards totalinarinism, joblessness, crime, unpredictable and violent weather, hoplessness, etc) as a part of life. They will contunue to refer to the Holy Bible as a fairy tale, even though no other book can boast the accuracy of its prophesy.

Revelation 13:3 "...all the world wonder in amazement after the beast."

I don't know all of this Obama worship strikes a cord in this aforementioned verse.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

40.2 months is pretty close to the end of Obama's presidency, so folks, if I were you...I'd accept Christ, now!

I beseech all to read at least the Book of Revelation, as it is the only book that will bless you (Rev. 1:3). At least read Rev. 13...I think it will intrigue those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

King Barry needs to destroy the Constitution in order to turn America into his dream communist country.

Quoting: Epic Beard Guy

You do know that Obama is not master- minding these plans, right?

He's the pretty package with the smooth voice that tells us the lies... Not the 'brains'.

I thought everybody knew that, unless you're....

A SHILL?!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044

no, there are many on here who haven't gotten that memo yet. they're (usually) sort of right wing versions of me back in '08 when i actually believed obama might be for real about people power, true reform and all. they haven't yet understood that the duopoly is absolutely orchestrated by the same masters on both sides of the coin. they don't give a damn about left and right except as a wedge mechanism--it's all about implementing the global police state. anyone who believes romney was going to save them is beyond delusion.

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ha you fucking republicans are hilarious if Mitt Romney was doing this (which he said he would do) you would all be saying what a hero he is killing our enemies! you make me laugh with your childish belief that Obama is really running things, he didn't start this shit, the last president did with the Patriot Act which makes what he is doing perfectly legal, all you have to do is call somebody an "enemy combatant" and you can kill them imprison them, do whatever the fuck you want. if you honestly believe that if Obama went away this would stop then you are simply the walking, talking definition of a sheeple who has no idea what is really going on in our country and what the president really is; a puppet and nothing more.

Re: This is a very, very dangerous thing that the president has done...

It has been leaked that TPTB might pull off a FF Op seemingly against Washington, DC soon, maybe during or very soon after the coming engineered economic collapse. It might also appear as if it was racially motivated to stir up a race war. If they do it, gun owners, Constitutionalists and Christians will be blamed. They may use this as a pretext to declare Marshall Law & declare internal war against those groups. Gun confiscation by force will happen at that time of "national emergency."

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22012325

It is MARTIAL law. Not Marshall.

mar·tial [mahr-shuhl] adjective1.inclined or disposed to war; warlike: The ancient Romans were a martial people.2.of, suitable for, or associated with war or the armed forces: martial music.3.characteristic of or befitting a warrior: a martial stride.

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So now YOU are a quasi prisoner within the border of the U.S.

If YOU step foot outside of the Border, YOU can be instantly labeled as a terrorist. (Facial Recognition Systems) (Passport Embedded Microchips)

Send in the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV), BOOM/SPLAT.

Scratch one trouble making Moran.

Welcome fellow Americans to the new Concentration Camp!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33873066

You are not a physical prisoner in the USA yet, just a financial & psychological prisoner, for now.

You don't have to leave to USA to be labeled a terr0rist. You can get that label anywhere. The UAVs can now target you anywhere in the USA. They have no restrictions. There are 12 Predator/Reaper/Guardian bases in the USA right now. What do you think they are there for?