More petitions regarding the Xbox One… Bring back DRM and other restrictive policies?

Now here’s a strange turn of events. After all that complaining about the DRM and enforced internet connection, there is now a petition to actually bring back the ridiculous policies that Microsoft had planned to release on the Xbox One.

Here’s the thing though; it’s not only Xbox fans who are signing this petition which now almost twenty thousand signatures (Yes, TWENTY THOUSAND people who actually want DRM). Many PlayStation fans are also signing this leaving negative comments such as about how this will make the Xbox a worse console, and the PS4 even better.

The petition reads:

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This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses. Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers uncertainty.

We want this back. It can’t be all or nothing, there must be a compromise.

Personally, I find it all rather amusing. All the uproar regarding the Xbox One’s DRM. So many people complaining all over their Facebook page, on twitter and literally everywhere I looked gaming related someone was complaining about the Xbox One. We get what we want, and suddenly it’s like “NO, LET’S GET THOSE POLICIES BACK”. What I find most amusing about all this though is that there are so many Sony dare I say it? “Fan boys” complaining about the Xbox and using the DRM as their main reason why the Xbox was a bad console, yet they seem to forget that Sony also planned to include many of these policies on the PlayStation 4.

What do you think about all of this? Should the Xbox One have it’s DRM and enforced internet connections? Should the PlayStation 4 for that matter?

Disclaimer: I understand there are many people who feel strongly about either console and my use of the term “fan boy” was probably not the best, but this post was not intended to cause any form of animosity. Please also note that I do my best not to have any form of bias about these two consoles, as I won’t be purchasing either.

Uhm no good decision. If the competition becomes weaker, the prices of actual hardware and software become “harder” meaning there is little fluctuation, so a company like sony would be animated to hold their prices cause they can charge it. Due to the fact the competition is weak.

I respect JeoWay for speaking his mind, I would gladly sign this petition. That could hinder the sales of the Xbox One. It would only be slight payback for the way Microsoft sc*** me over time, and time again.

That’s ironic…respect JeoWay’s speaking of his mind, but please let’s not respect Davee’s. Thrawn’s and Riku’s. One it is malicious and two IT DOES have consequences on the future of console gaming. The competition drives each other to make themselves better, make better games, improve games and features. If only Sony existed or maybe two consoles only, then you’d be stuck with what THEY choose to give you. Perfect example the Vita. You got the Vita and the 3DS/DS. Both completely different markets though, so for the “gamer” market, just the Vita. Thus we ended up with a sandboxed system with 3G not 4G, promised features that we got late, got half what was promised or will never get until the PS4.

well i had no problem with the 24 check in herd was for games updates n patches think they download in the back ground wen system was in stand..n if ur playing online 24/7 24 hour check in be no problem unless u have no internet… the online passes was the only thing i dident like much…

1. Stupid name 2. Can’t play 360 games (MS said a fews ago it would) 3. Mandatory Kinect 4. Always online or no games

Now it’s the 1st 3.

I won’t even consider an Xbox One unless I can use the system with the Kinect device unplugged from the console. With Microsoft’s partnership with the NSA, they may secretly turn on Kinect and record even if you have set Kinect to be disabled. Until Kinect doesn’t have to be plugged in, I won’t even consider an Xbox One.

Uhm *** is going on, I mean ***? Is the xbox community really that dumb? They would have never gotten that feature for reselling, sharing or treading their bought licenses. BASTA. Not even steam allows that. Why should microsoft allow reselling, sharing or trading on their platform, that destroys the market prices of the products and scares producers away. If they would have implemented that, than everything would be different, but they didn’t intend to do it that way. Every license is and was a one time buy without refunds.

Yeah really who is gonna pay full price for someone elses licenses the who pupose in reselling used games is to make them cheaper but a digital only xbox 1 could be a hackers dream and get raped worse then the psp did. I say make 2 versions one that only dose digital and has to be online and 1 that does br and no hdd that has no network connection then every one is happy

Again. Majority of PS fans are signing it. They want to see Xbox burn up in flames for some reason. That’s unfair and that’s sabotage. I mean, PS fans wouldn’t like it if the petition was to bring DRM to the PS4, would they?

Who knows, It could have been a good console. The problem is, they failed to deliver the console correctly, fans didn’t understand what these features would mean, how it could benefit gaming, only the negitives.

No. It is unlucky, as it sounds like the word for death. From what I am given to understand it is less prominent now, but in the past, buildings would even be built with the fourth floor being skipped, and being named the fifth.

In Chinese 4 is “si” which also means death. Technically it should be lucky because it’s formed of two pairs (2s). The Japanese ‘borrow’ those same words in their own language, so naturally, the superstitions have carried across.

And yes, it’s not unusual for traditional buildings to be missing a fourth floor (or not exceed three stories) and properties numbered 4 are cheaper (or non-existent) on most streets. Even heavens stairs on the great wall has a double rise so it totals 443 instead of 444 (because that would be REALLY bad).

Omfg nippon people are just so uncreative. 🙂 Tthey could have called it the Quadstation. Or psIV or ps cuatro or ps quattro … they don’t need to name it with a 4 they could make a roundabout. The vita wasn’t named psp2, it got its own name.

I come down on this like this. .. sure both consoles have positives and negatives but what has separated them thus far is the initial announcement and delivery of that announcement. I mean we really know very little of both consoles and the public hasn’t had a real good look at them to decide. Now where it seemed to go wrong for Microsoft was what they decided to show first and their general attitude about this new piece of hardware. I think marketing at Microsoft needs some real work and not just for their Xbox division which I guess might happen with this whole restructuring idea they have now which is a problem of it’s own. Sony decided to play on the strengths of the hardware and hope that’s enough for now till they decide where to go from there. I think it seemed to work for them plus making a mockery of their competition which I guess is part of the game in this industry. I just hope Microsoft gets their act together or Xbox will be the least of their worries… As for Sony let’s just hope their console works as well and magical as they say it does or I’m sure you’ll see angry fans coming from a different direction. Both companies aren’t living the high life right now so I think either side to act like they know what’s best is ludicrous. But I guess in the end it comes down to … build it they will come

Honestly, internet always on is just a console aka 2013; Most games need internet connection aswell … ’bout DRM or policy; while Sony might be the friend of the gamers, the company’s making games only do it for money, and if XONE is more strict they will be more reluctant to make games for XONE;

As to those “check-ins” well, I think its a marketing failure; I assume this is linked to the software, a console will “catch” the user data for around 1 day, so you will need to login every day to access your user data, that is implemented in every game; Lets say username, your funny avatar, ect ect. Thought to consumers this is like you need to tick a clock to be able to game … bad marketing.

As to who has the best console, purely spec there non-comparable; They are very alike, and the difference in performance variate on the game and other factors; Fact is, that 99% of performance is based on the game maker and not on the console itself;

I’m not a fan of Xbox nor Sony and I don’t plan buying any of those consoles; (I’m a PC user)

99%? you say you’re a PC user and you disregard hardware limitations? I’ll admit you can make wonderful software for inferior hardware, but there are limits. If you surpass those limits, it’s going to take better hardware to pull it off, or you’re going to have to cut corners. That said, from what I’ve seen of the specs they seem very similar.

I thought I was the only one that thought this way, so actually I’m a bit relieved I’m not the only one.

I actually liked most of what Microsoft had proposed with their original DRM scheme for the XB1. Full installs with no need to put the disc in to play the game? The ability to give away/resell digital titles? The former isn’t done for any console today, and even Steam doesn’t allow the latter. When everything else is wireless on these consoles, that’s a big step up from having to keep track of your discs and dinking with the console to swap them out.

Of course DRM is a continuum, so this is a tradeoff. The 24 hour check-in policy is clearly the tradeoff to discless games. It’s how you make sure a game is no longer being played when the game has been sold, and to keep from having a large number of people playing off of the same copy at the same time (i.e. buy a disc copy and share it with your friends). You can’t have the ability to sell games in this manner without a way to revoke that license on each console, which requires the check in.

But you know what? I have a broadband Internet connection. So while the 24 hour check-in isn’t convenient by any definition of the word, at the same time it would have no negative impact on me. I’m already “always on” anyhow – it’s not as if my non-handheld consoles go anywhere – so this was never a big deal for me. A 24 hour check-in as a tradeoff for being able to go discless and sell digital games (not to mention sc*** over Gamestop) was well worth it.

That said I do see the point of those on the other side. Not everyone has a broadband connection (though I don’t know anyone who plays games without some kind of Internet connection), and quite frankly a big change like this really is scary. Something like this would improve the experience for the vast majority of users, I believe, but certainly there’s nothing Microsoft could do that would make things better for and/or satisfy everyone at the same time.

Finally, as a point of pedantry, DRM is a continuum. What Microsoft was proposing wasn’t “DRM” as if the concept has a singular form and implementation. Even the current scheme used for the PS3, 360, and the latest plan for the XB1 is still DRM, just at the other end of that continuum. In fact disc based DRM is basically the original DRM, as implemented way back when in the era where hard drives became common and games could be installed rather than running off of floppy disks. Consequently Microsoft’s original proposal is no more or less DRM than their current proposal, so it’s disingenuous to say that people want MS to “bring back” DRM. You’ve had it since the very first Xbox.

Many xbox fans still think that MS took down their DRM policy just because of gamers but I don’t think so, imo they did it because of money, as always. I really don’t think that in case there will be no PS4 they will take it down. It takes 1 update to remove it, how many updates would it require to bring it back?

That is the same principle. Fans = Paying customers. If their fanbase hated the product, chances are high that the sales will plummet because if fans won’t verbally support a product, why would they spend their hard-earned money on the product?

For all the brain dead “Fan Boys” signing this petition just shows how ignorant you are. Think about this, as “Gamers” why would we want only one home system to play? Let me guess “Because PS is better” , thought you say that. As being gamers it’s all about the experience, the story, the connection, that makes a game great. Yes we have our opinions about which systems reigns suprem, but to completly try to cripple a console that has brought us “Fun” cause that’s what it’s about is absolutely absurd. You should be ashamed as “Gamers”. I own and play all systems because There is to much fun to be had.

I actually want both ps4 and xbox3 to fall on their face but only in the proprietary sense, not at the expense of the end users experience and causing them to have less fun. Pretty much everyone at one point or another has been shafted and almost no platform has bragging rights of a history of making the end users experience better, usually more complicating. Eeh maybe I’m a dead wrong negative nancy who knows.