We talk about it all the time in relation to other threads. It always comes down to who do we fire, when, and under what conditions. So, let's just get it over with. What do you think? Casserly? Capers? Palmer? Who else?

Here's my thoughts:

Casserly stays. I don't see any reason to let him go that can't be contradicted with a better reason to let him stay. He's had some busts, but he's also had DD, Carr, Johnson, and more. Much more. Yes, the O-line is still crud, or at least hasn't proven otherwise (although I haven't seen Carr sacked lately with his little one/half step drop and fire the ball like a hot potato). This team is 3 yrs. old and had more than enough talent to have gone .500 last year.

Capers? I think he should get his five yrs. Now, granted, if we go 5-11 this year, I may change my mind.

Palmer? I've felt for some time now that if this team doesn't go 9-7 or better this year that somebody needs to go--Palmer being the most likely candidate. But, how can Palmer call anything with Wand, McKinney, and Carr laying flat on their backs? So, do we fire Casserly? I don't think so. I think all the other teams in the NFL have had many more years to pick guys like DD and Johnson and Robinson. I think the 5 year plan was never a 5 year plan. It needs to be an 8 yr. plan and that was just really hard for us to accept. I hope Carr lives long enough.

TexHorns

08-22-2005, 12:56 AM

I can agree with you 100%. We had some early pics that didnt pan out. It put us in a bad situation with pass protection:deadhorse . we need to address it with great priority if it doesnt improve this year but I dont think that getting rid of capers or casserly is the answer. IMO they are doing a good job.

Texans86

08-22-2005, 02:03 AM

Alright, this may be my first post, but it is by no means my first time to the board. It seems to me that there are many Texans fans that are very pessimistic about our upcoming season. I think I have figured out why this is. It seems as though people would rather be pleasantly surprised at the Texans doing well this season, than have their bubble burst during the season that we might not make the playoffs. From the beginning, as has been stated many times, the Texans are following a five year plan. We are only entering year four, and by far we have the most talent on the roster than we have in any of the past years. Unless someone on this board has a secret life as an NFL coach, none of us are being payed to build a franchise from scratch. In the salary cap era, we obviously cannot adress every issue we have in one single offseason. Year one, we needed a franchise quarterback, year two, someone to throw to and to hand the ball off to. Year three, build a younger defense. Four, build some depth and try to let some younger players develop. Though there are some things I wish we had done during the offseason, I admit that the coaches are probably smarter than I am and know what they are doing. I think McNair is considered one of the better owners in the league, and he will stand by his five year plan, along with his five year coaches.

Davis37

08-22-2005, 02:18 AM

We talk about it all the time in relation to other threads. It always comes down to who do we fire, when, and under what conditions. So, let's just get it over with. What do you think? Casserly? Capers? Palmer? Who else?

Here's my thoughts:

Casserly stays. I don't see any reason to let him go that can't be contradicted with a better reason to let him stay. He's had some busts, but he's also had DD, Carr, Johnson, and more. Much more. Yes, the O-line is still crud, or at least hasn't proven otherwise (although I haven't seen Carr sacked lately with his little one/half step drop and fire the ball like a hot potato). This team is 3 yrs. old and had more than enough talent to have gone .500 last year.

Capers? I think he should get his five yrs. Now, granted, if we go 5-11 this year, I may change my mind.

Palmer? I've felt for some time now that if this team doesn't go 9-7 or better this year that somebody needs to go--Palmer being the most likely candidate. But, how can Palmer call anything with Wand, McKinney, and Carr laying flat on their backs? So, do we fire Casserly? I don't think so. I think all the other teams in the NFL have had many more years to pick guys like DD and Johnson and Robinson. I think the 5 year plan was never a 5 year plan. It needs to be an 8 yr. plan and that was just really hard for us to accept. I hope Carr lives long enough.

Not here to troll or bash Cass, but u gotta realize that Carr, Johnson, and Robinson were all top 10 picks. Most people with 1/2 a brain could make those picks.

RTP2110

08-22-2005, 07:39 AM

Not here to troll or bash Cass, but u gotta realize that Carr, Johnson, and Robinson were all top 10 picks. Most people with 1/2 a brain could make those picks.

Also, Casserly's job is more than just drafting. Let's see how the departures of Glenn and Sharper affect the team. There could also be questions about his decision making about the O-line.

PapaL

08-22-2005, 07:55 AM

Not here to troll or bash Cass, but u gotta realize that Carr, Johnson, and Robinson were all top 10 picks. Most people with 1/2 a brain could make those picks.

Remember - we very easily could have ended up with Harrington, Rogers, and what Taylor Winslow or Hall. Not as easy as it seems.

infantrycak

08-22-2005, 09:11 AM

Not here to troll or bash Cass, but u gotta realize that Carr, Johnson, and Robinson were all top 10 picks. Most people with 1/2 a brain could make those picks.

None of those picks were unanimously anticipated or accepted around here so IMO your statement is not correct. There were certainly people who wanted Julius Peppers in 2002. In 2003 there were tons of people who thought AJ's hands weren't good enough and we should take Terrance Newman, Dewayne Robertson, Terrell Suggs, or Jordan Gross. In 2004 Robinson would have been the top choice for maybe 20% of the people with votes going to trade up for Gallery, Taylor or Winslow or to take Tommie Harris, Wilfork, Udeze, or Will Smith. Hindsight has led more clarity to these selections than existed at the time.

Vinny

08-22-2005, 10:43 AM

None of those picks were unanimously anticipated or accepted around here so IMO your statement is not correct. There were certainly people who wanted Julius Peppers in 2002. In 2003 there were tons of people who thought AJ's hands weren't good enough and we should take Terrance Newman, Dewayne Robertson, Terrell Suggs, or Jordan Gross. In 2004 Robinson would have been the top choice for maybe 20% of the people with votes going to trade up for Gallery, Taylor or Winslow or to take Tommie Harris, Wilfork, Udeze, or Will Smith. Hindsight has led more clarity to these selections than existed at the time.
Exactly. Heck, most of the board cringed when we made the Robinson pick. Most of those guys are also stating what an 'obvious' pick it was too. oye.

Diehardtexan

08-22-2005, 11:23 AM

Also, Casserly's job is more than just drafting. Let's see how the departures of Glenn and Sharper affect the team. There could also be questions about his decision making about the O-line.
There are many picks before the picks we have made in the first round that were bust. Rogers was picked before Johnson. Atlanta, picked a CB before we picked ours, every body in the league said to pick Harrington before Carr.
Any picks would be considered busts only if they are in the first 2 or 3 rounds. So far we only have one Bust and that is B Jebrue (sp). The texans are building the right way. Why won't you people wait until the season is over the start your bit..ing. :goodnight

SESupergenius

08-22-2005, 11:37 AM

Naw, I've been on the Official Texans message boards from the beginning and most people wanted either Carr or Peppers, most for Carr because some geniuses felt that Peppers wouldn't fit well in the 3-4 (ala... DJ :ok: ). Then the next year there was the Johnson, Rogers....or trade down debate, which was tilted more towards Johnsons (who by the way HAD hands issues and the fact that the Texans asked him to get glasses backs that up). The 3rd year was more open to interpretation as most wanted Hall until it was leaked that we were going after Robinson, but even then almost everyone had a different opinion. It really wasn't until the leak that we were more interested in Robinson that people jumped on the bandwagon.

Some peoples history of what really happend seems to be skewed just to make an argument.

Blake

08-22-2005, 11:46 AM

Exactly. Heck, most of the board cringed when we made the Robinson pick. Most of those guys are also stating what an 'obvious' pick it was too. oye.

I was one of them. It wasnt that I didnt want Robinson. I just didnt know much about him. I focused in on select players, and not the whole spectrum.

And now Robinson was a pick anyone with half a brain could have made? Give CC some credit.

nunusguy

08-22-2005, 11:46 AM

Not here to troll or bash Cass, but u gotta realize that Carr, Johnson, and Robinson were all top 10 picks. Most people with 1/2 a brain could make those picks.
You gotta give Cass credit where its due for wise choices and his record is strong when he picks staight up, but I've got reservations about his judgement when he swaps picks and I still keep my eye on the players we "gave up" for Babin.
Many teams would probably swap Babin for Randy Starks straight up if given the opportunity. Starks had 4.5 sacks last year as a rookie DT and incredably is now still just 21 - 4 years younger than Babin. In addition to Starks, the Titans used picks they received in the Babin trade to draft TE Ben Troupe and LB Bo Schobel, still on the Titans roster and both with talent and potential and all players at need positions for the Texans. I think even if one of these Titans made it to the Pro Bowl, some posters here would still have
trouble admitting Cass may have lost track of parity when he made this trade. Hey, I like Jason to, but he's gonna have to have a really outstanding
career to ultimately justify the swap that brought him here.

Vinny

08-22-2005, 12:01 PM

In addition to Starks, the Titans used picks they received in the Babin trade to draft TE Ben Troupe and LB Bo Schobel, still on the Titans roster and both with talent and potential and all players at need positions for the Texans.
Bo Schobel is another 265 pound 4-3 DE and not a 3-4 DE. Starks is a 3 technique and may not be suited to a two gap system. We may could use Troupe...but he hasn't done much yet except not understand the playbook last year (didn't play much because of that) and get injured this year...he does have some great potential though.

Texans86

08-22-2005, 01:38 PM

... We may could use Troupe...but he hasn't done much yet except not understand the playbook last year (didn't play much because of that) and get injured this year...he does have some great potential though.

Great Potential? That sounds like another tight end I know.

TheOgre

08-22-2005, 02:02 PM

I think BJ needs to go find a witch to remove the curse that some past girlfriend has cast upon him. That is the only explanation for what has happened the past three years.

nunusguy

08-22-2005, 02:31 PM

Bo Schobel is another 265 pound 4-3 DE and not a 3-4 DE. Starks is a 3 technique and may not be suited to a two gap system. We may could use Troupe...but he hasn't done much yet except not understand the playbook last year (didn't play much because of that) and get injured this year...he does have some great potential though.
It appears that Troupe would have been in Honolulu with others this
year had he "mastered" the Titans playbook, because he caught 33 passes as
rookie last year for the Titans while not even understanding the playbook
according to you. Yea, we could maybe use a young TE like him like in a bigtime big way.
And Starks actually had some 3-4 experience while in college which is more
than TJ or the vast majority of college downlineman have and with 4.5 sacks
had more than any of our DL - ande he to was only a rook. One can only speculate how he'd do in a 2-gap scheme - the verdict is certainly still out on TJ.
I believe Schobel was injured last year so don't know what will happen with him, but now that he's up and running this year, but Schobel is roughly the same size and diminetions as Babin who himself would be playing as a DE if drafted by a Tenn.

Porky

08-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Before the draft, nobody thought the Texans would take TJ because he was a 4-3 penetrating tackle, and the 3-4 calls for big dudes that can tie up multiple blockers, and hold the point of attack. Yet, a guy like Starks, who actually played 3-4 in College couldn't be converted? I don't remember Starks' size, maybe that is a factor.

The jury is still way out on the Babin trade and the Pbuc trade. I think these two trades will be Casserly's legacy...good or bad.

I know it's early, so I am giving both the benefit of the doubt, but I have been impressed with neither of these guys in the first two games.

Is Babin even on the field? Oh wait, that must be him on the ground, or trailing the play. And his pass rush reminds me more of rush hour on a Houston freeway. So far (again it's early) the trade rates about a D+ from me.

Pbuc was giving so much cushion the other night, he might as well have been sitting in a Lazy-Boy about 20 yards down the field. And his tackling so far? Let's just say he gives new meaning to the term "Tackling Dummy". Did anyone else see him go for the ball and totally whiff on his man. Need I remind you we gave up a 2nd and 3rd for him? Am I the only one who would rather have two good prospects and Aaron Glenn over this guy? So far, I rate this one a D+ as well.

Vinny

08-22-2005, 03:15 PM

Some guys can do it...some can't. Warren Sapp is huge...but is best at the 3 technique - I don't think anyone debates that (who knows what they are talking about). Obviously the team thinks DJ can and the entire NFL passed on Starks for 70 picks...so it's not like teams were rushing to pull him off the draft board.

Vinny

08-22-2005, 03:17 PM

It appears that Troupe would have been in Honolulu with others this
year had he "mastered" the Titans playbook, because he caught 33 passes as
rookie last year for the Titans while not even understanding the playbook
according to you.It's not according to me. It's according to their coaches. He was slow to learn the system. You don't have to believe a word I type...but I have a long history of being pretty accurate and don't spew a lot of nonsense. Take it or leave it...but Im not making things up.

nunusguy

08-22-2005, 03:41 PM

It's not according to me. It's according to their coaches. He was slow to learn the system. You don't have to believe a word I type...but I have a long history of being pretty accurate and don't spew a lot of nonsense. Take it or leave it...but Im not making things up.
Of course you're not making these claims about Troupe up out of whole cloth,
and I didn't say that, but a good way to support your claims and remove suspisions about their validity is to provide a
link which I've done below about Troupes persformance in his rookie year.
But so far as Troupe having learning problems, you know , as many bios as
I've seen about the Texans personnel I've yet to see one of our guys with
academic credentials liek this: "graduated - M.I.T.; major - Rocket Science."
Jeez, how many of our players, including todays starters, are less than mental
giants, hardly a requirment to succeed in the NFL for most positions.
************************************************** **
" In 2004, Ben Troupe had the most productive season of any rookie tight end in franchise history, collecting 33 receptions for 329 yards and one touchdown. As his comfort level grew in the Titans offense, his extraordinary athleticism began to shine as he blossomed into a downfield threat with great ability to run after the catch."
http://www.titansonline.com/team/players/bio.php?PRKey=211

beerlover

08-22-2005, 04:22 PM

I'm sorry but what was this thread about :confused:

I sure hope that the learning curve applied to the pros is not applicable to the fans as well otherwise I would be :embarrass
2002 David Carr
2003 Andre Johnson
2004 Vince Wilfork
2005 Thomas Davis

the first two picks by the Texans are no brainers being that they where the #1 & #3 picks overall and both have proved to be vindicated.

the lower the pick the more room there is for contradiction. with all the injurys to the defensive line in the 2nd year my idea was to grab a perfect 3-4 nose tackle from Miami to fill in the hole. as it turned out the Texans made a better pick and selected rising star Dunta Robinson. then this past year I really wanted DeMarcus Ware but he was scooped up by the Cowboys with the 11th pick, I remember distinctly it seemed, everyone was holding their breath for DJ, and I too was shocked that the Texans traded down, not so much as they passed on DJ however but that they passed on Thomas Davis who would make an outstanding NFL strong safety & add a pass rusher. the jury is still out on this one but since the Texans really needed to address their interior defensive line and did not in 2004 I think Travis Johnson was the best selection, again I have no complaints with the Texans 1st rd picks.

if y'all want to open up the 2nd/3rd or what could have been the Texans 2nd/3rd thats a whole can of worms that is nothing more than a waste of time and effort, because whats done is done & there is nothing more to do than go forward and embrace the situation as it stands & support the Texans orgainization, from the top down to the bottom & hope for a winning season :)

aj.

08-22-2005, 06:58 PM

You don't have to believe a word I type...but I have a long history of being pretty accurate and don't spew a lot of nonsense. Take it or leave it...but Im not making things up.

Good gawd...where's that 'rolls eyes' thingy when you need it ....

jodief

08-22-2005, 07:01 PM

well just send the whole team to l.a. and forget we ever had ANOTHER team to root for geeez luiiiiiz :brickwall

powda

08-22-2005, 07:18 PM

well just send the whole team to l.a. and forget we ever had ANOTHER team to root for geeez luiiiiiz :brickwall

fire the gm and the coaches? naahhh. jettison the fly by night fans in here.

Evans Fan

08-22-2005, 08:22 PM

houston really has offensive talent but man your too young on defense to make a push for a playoff spot a few more seasons and a top five team in the afc will be the houston texans if Carr devlops and the defense devolps so baseically YOU HAVE NO CHANCE CUZ MAGEMENT THEIR SUCKS SORRY!!

disaacks3

08-22-2005, 08:49 PM

fire the gm and the coaches? naahhh. jettison the fly by night fans in here. Sure, right after we boot the :homer: with the permanent Rose-Colored glasses on.

Texans86

08-22-2005, 09:02 PM

Which is worse, being optimistic or pessimistic. On this board, I'm not so sure.

texasguy346

08-22-2005, 09:25 PM

houston really has offensive talent but man your too young on defense to make a push for a playoff spot a few more seasons and a top five team in the afc will be the houston texans if Carr devlops and the defense devolps so baseically YOU HAVE NO CHANCE CUZ MAGEMENT THEIR SUCKS SORRY!!

Glass houses my friend...

I recall a certain team that thought Rob Johnson was going to be a star QB in the NFL and picked him up in 98 or so. Wonder what team that could be?

the wonger need food

08-22-2005, 09:47 PM

Which is worse, being optimistic or pessimistic. On this board, I'm not so sure.

Neither is better or worse. We are shareholders in this company and have the right to point out the good and bad. Fans with negative comments about the team are no less fans. Personally, I have not missed a single snap since 2002 and have given thousands of dollars to this organization, so when something is being done incorrectly (imo) I have the right to point it out. I encourage others to do the same. There are way too many apologists on this board whose idea of being a fan is to argue that everything is being done perfectly.

powda

08-22-2005, 10:47 PM

Sure, right after we boot the :homer: with the permanent Rose-Colored glasses on.

now just a gosh dern minute there mister...these here is prescription glasses.

can you be a homer and have the occasional negative remark? whats the rule of thumb there....gotta be a distinction somewhere...

Texans86

08-22-2005, 11:04 PM

Where exactly did the term homer come from? Is it negative? It seems so, because people always get defensive when they are called homers.

Jwwillis

08-22-2005, 11:42 PM

houston really has offensive talent but man your too young on defense to make a push for a playoff spot a few more seasons and a top five team in the afc will be the houston texans if Carr devlops and the defense devolps so baseically YOU HAVE NO CHANCE CUZ MAGEMENT THEIR SUCKS SORRY!!

Somebody whip out the ol buffalo girl cheerleader picture.

powda

08-22-2005, 11:59 PM

homer is a negative term.

when a fan is so blinded by his passion for his team that he refuses to accept anything negative regarding that team be it true or false he is a homer.

example:

when the cowboys went 1-15 i still knew the occasional knuckle head at work who was convinced they were well on their way to the superbowl that year (despite being mathmatically eliminated).

on the contrary...

when the cowboys make the playoffs, cowboy fans conviently show up out of the shadows. all of a sudden those 2 fans down the street multiply into 5. and all of them tell you theyve been lifelongers who were with the team during the good and the bad....this would be a bandwagoner (or fairweather fan).

this to is a derrogitory remark.

the texans to date have had limited success and so we've never had a huge bandwagon of fans. (when we make the playoffs this will change).

HOWEVER, as a substitute for bandwagoners we've been blessed with something far more annoying...

chicken littles. (drama queens.)

chicken littles tend to only exist in the fanbase of teams whove never had a lot of success. (you wont find a new york yankees chicken little). "chic lil's" tend to magnify everything negative about their team in some twisted attempt to :

a. recieve sympathy from other fans

b. demean the coach and or players to unseat them from the team in a fruitless effort to become a part of the team themselves.

c. they are closet masochist and their urges manifest themselves in sports and all over this message board.

all three of these "chic lil" versions exhibit unstable and unpatient behavior. in the span of a single play they can cross a full spectrum of emotions from ecstatic to suicidal hysteria. if this sounds vaguley familiar ask yourself...how long did that suicidal hysteria last? did it last long enough for you to dial up...log on...write a typically incoherent post and then share it with everyone else here? if so...you may be suffering from this tragic sports disease. your life is not over...put the razor down! seek imediate medical attention or simply wait for the regular season to begin...chances are the texans will not finish 1-15 no matter what the voices in your head tell you.

what type are you? a,b, or c?

and as always there is an exception to the rule...the worst version of a "chic lil" is the "d" version. how can anything possibly be worse then the afforementioned sports disorders? "d version chic lils" are not infact fans of the team. they're trolls from other teams who frequent foreign sports boards in an effort to kill a fan base enthusiasim.

do you think theres a chance you might be a "d version chic lil" ?

ask yourself...have you contributed anything worthwhile to the board...or have you methodically killed another fans intrest in the sport by convinceing him the houston texans apocolypse is upon us...did you do it with a smile on your face?

repent.

Texans86

08-23-2005, 12:23 AM

That is quite possibly one of the funniest things ever written on this board. I thank you for your insight and humor. One more question, how exactly did homer simpson become the face of an overly optomistic fan who doesn't see the real world?

edo783

08-23-2005, 12:33 AM

Good post Powda. Very funny.

southtexan

08-23-2005, 10:43 AM

homer is a negative term.

when a fan is so blinded by his passion for his team that he refuses to accept anything negative regarding that team be it true or false he is a homer.

example:

when the cowboys went 1-15 i still knew the occasional knuckle head at work who was convinced they were well on their way to the superbowl that year (despite being mathmatically eliminated).

on the contrary...

when the cowboys make the playoffs, cowboy fans conviently show up out of the shadows. all of a sudden those 2 fans down the street multiply into 5. and all of them tell you theyve been lifelongers who were with the team during the good and the bad....this would be a bandwagoner (or fairweather fan).

this to is a derrogitory remark.

the texans to date have had limited success and so we've never had a huge bandwagon of fans. (when we make the playoffs this will change).

HOWEVER, as a substitute for bandwagoners we've been blessed with something far more annoying...

chicken littles. (drama queens.)

chicken littles tend to only exist in the fanbase of teams whove never had a lot of success. (you wont find a new york yankees chicken little). "chic lil's" tend to magnify everything negative about their team in some twisted attempt to :

a. recieve sympathy from other fans

b. demean the coach and or players to unseat them from the team in a fruitless effort to become a part of the team themselves.

c. they are closet masochist and their urges manifest themselves in sports and all over this message board.

all three of these "chic lil" versions exhibit unstable and unpatient behavior. in the span of a single play they can cross a full spectrum of emotions from ecstatic to suicidal hysteria. if this sounds vaguley familiar ask yourself...how long did that suicidal hysteria last? did it last long enough for you to dial up...log on...write a typically incoherent post and then share it with everyone else here? if so...you may be suffering from this tragic sports disease. your life is not over...put the razor down! seek imediate medical attention or simply wait for the regular season to begin...chances are the texans will not finish 1-15 no matter what the voices in your head tell you.

what type are you? a,b, or c?

and as always there is an exception to the rule...the worst version of a "chic lil" is the "d" version. how can anything possibly be worse then the afforementioned sports disorders? "d version chic lils" are not infact fans of the team. they're trolls from other teams who frequent foreign sports boards in an effort to kill a fan base enthusiasim.

do you think theres a chance you might be a "d version chic lil" ?

ask yourself...have you contributed anything worthwhile to the board...or have you methodically killed another fans intrest in the sport by convinceing him the houston texans apocolypse is upon us...did you do it with a smile on your face?

repent.
Extremely funny.

NoBullTexan

08-23-2005, 03:24 PM

Porky, I believe you will remember I was pretty unhappy when we gave up so much to get Babin, but he didn't have a bad rookie season, so I have decided to give it time to play out. At the time Capers thought the defense needed that impact rush OLB, and obviously thought that, with Babin still there at the 27th spot, it would be a good time to go get him.

The decision to go get PBuch was an extension of the staff deciding it wanted to go with youth and speed at some of the defensive positions. It was natural, after deciding to move Wong back to ILB, and to go get Greenwood for the other MLB spot, to also get younger and quicker at the LCB spot, thus the decision to go after PBuch. These moves too, can only be judged with time. So lets let it run its course (for this season at least), and see where it will lead. Lets sit back and see how the situation helps, or hinders, the future development of this team into the playoffs.

sprtsfanatic

08-23-2005, 03:36 PM

homer is a negative term.

when a fan is so blinded by his passion for his team that he refuses to accept anything negative regarding that team be it true or false he is a homer.

example:

when the cowboys went 1-15 i still knew the occasional knuckle head at work who was convinced they were well on their way to the superbowl that year (despite being mathmatically eliminated).

on the contrary...

when the cowboys make the playoffs, cowboy fans conviently show up out of the shadows. all of a sudden those 2 fans down the street multiply into 5. and all of them tell you theyve been lifelongers who were with the team during the good and the bad....this would be a bandwagoner (or fairweather fan).

this to is a derrogitory remark.

the texans to date have had limited success and so we've never had a huge bandwagon of fans. (when we make the playoffs this will change).

HOWEVER, as a substitute for bandwagoners we've been blessed with something far more annoying...

chicken littles. (drama queens.)

chicken littles tend to only exist in the fanbase of teams whove never had a lot of success. (you wont find a new york yankees chicken little). "chic lil's" tend to magnify everything negative about their team in some twisted attempt to :

a. recieve sympathy from other fans

b. demean the coach and or players to unseat them from the team in a fruitless effort to become a part of the team themselves.

c. they are closet masochist and their urges manifest themselves in sports and all over this message board.

all three of these "chic lil" versions exhibit unstable and unpatient behavior. in the span of a single play they can cross a full spectrum of emotions from ecstatic to suicidal hysteria. if this sounds vaguley familiar ask yourself...how long did that suicidal hysteria last? did it last long enough for you to dial up...log on...write a typically incoherent post and then share it with everyone else here? if so...you may be suffering from this tragic sports disease. your life is not over...put the razor down! seek imediate medical attention or simply wait for the regular season to begin...chances are the texans will not finish 1-15 no matter what the voices in your head tell you.

what type are you? a,b, or c?

and as always there is an exception to the rule...the worst version of a "chic lil" is the "d" version. how can anything possibly be worse then the afforementioned sports disorders? "d version chic lils" are not infact fans of the team. they're trolls from other teams who frequent foreign sports boards in an effort to kill a fan base enthusiasim.

do you think theres a chance you might be a "d version chic lil" ?

ask yourself...have you contributed anything worthwhile to the board...or have you methodically killed another fans intrest in the sport by convinceing him the houston texans apocolypse is upon us...did you do it with a smile on your face?

repent.

That had to be the funniest yet the most true post I've seen in a while. Thanks for the insight, humor, opinion, and the laughs powda.

SESupergenius

08-23-2005, 04:08 PM

One more question, how exactly did homer simpson become the face of an overly optomistic fan who doesn't see the real world?

Like this:

http://www.cpa-ws.com/HomerTexan.jpg

Grid

08-23-2005, 04:17 PM

hehe.. nice pic.

I think the term ACTUALLY originated with another word that starts with "hom".. and got shortened to homer because it is more acceptable.

Basicly because you are so in love with your team its a borderline erotic obsession.

infantrycak

08-23-2005, 04:23 PM

hehe.. nice pic.

I think the term ACTUALLY originated with another word that starts with "hom".. and got shortened to homer because it is more acceptable.

Basicly because you are so in love with your team its a borderline erotic obsession.

Gee I always thought it had a much more innocent connection to people see everything rosy for the home team being homers.

Grid

08-23-2005, 04:27 PM

hehe.. i always had it explained to me in the way i said.

*shrug*.. whatever its origin.. its its own term now.

infantrycak

08-23-2005, 04:36 PM

hehe.. i always had it explained to me in the way i said.

*shrug*.. whatever its origin.. its its own term now.

I am not saying your wrong. Just it never occured to me to go beyond the what seemed to me obvious home team homer shorthand.

SESupergenius

08-23-2005, 04:41 PM

Homer = blindly thinking that the home team can do no wrong, and acting like Homer when trying to state your case.

Buzz

08-23-2005, 05:47 PM

Does anyone else find it a little disturbing that Homer is naked from the waist down in that picture? Or is that supposed to have something to do with the "borderline erotic obsession" somebody mentioned above? :D

Crank_It_Up

08-23-2005, 05:53 PM

Does anyone else find it a little disturbing that Homer is naked from the waist down in that picture? Or is that supposed to have something to do with the "borderline erotic obsession" somebody mentioned above? :D
I find it more disturbing that the score is 17 - 39