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View Poll Results: What do you think was Ash's Strongest Regional Team?

Ash's Strongest Regional Team

So, by this I mean, out of all the regions, in which one do you think he had the strongest team. Please take into account all the Pokemon he caught in that region. Think of all the Pokemon's strengths and weaknesses. Also, if he didn't catch the Pokemon in that region, but he used it in that team, (e.g. Donphan in the Hoenn Team) then it counts as a member of that team as well as the region it was caught in. However, leagues and the Pokemon he used the Battle Frontier matches (The ones that were with him all the time count for BF season. e.g. Sceptile. BTW Battle Frontier Team counts as Hoenn Team) don't apply to that rule (e.g. Quilava was used in the Sinnoh League, but it wasn't part of his Sinnoh team). Although you can take into account the moves it learnt during/prior to the leagues (Quilava with Aerial Ace). And please give a reason for you choice. (Sorry if this confused anyone, if you have any questions just ask me).

I'd say Hoenn. Kanto may have had the most powerhouses, but most of the Pokemon didn't get enough screentime to truly determine their strength. Sceptile and Torkoal were also 2 of the 4 Pokemon that beat Tobias' Darkrai. And Swellow must've done quite a bit to Latios coz Pikachu knocked it out (although it got knocked out too) and Pikachu was used straight after Swellow. And Glalie did pretty darn well in the Hoenn League too. The overall strength seems to be the highest too IMO.

Last edited by SuperPichu; 25th September 2012 at 10:18 PM.

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Probably sinnoh, but Charizard alone could probably take out half and bulbasaur and squirtle are probably far stronger than buizel and torterra respectively so kanto is also a possibility There's also snorlax.

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I think Sinnoh simple because this is the first time that Ash's pokemon learned moves that were not either of their own type, or simply Normal type, as their main battling moves.
Pikachu, Charizard, Noctowl and Snorlax are acceptions to this, I know, but for the most part it stands:
Bulbasaur: Razor Leaf, Vine Whip, Leech Seed, SolarBeam (all grass)
Squirtle: Hydro Pump, Water Gun, Rapid Spin, Skull Bash (two water, two normal)
Bayleef: Razor Leaf, Vine Whip, Body Slam, Sweet Scent (two grass, two normal)
Muk: Poison Gas, Sludge Bomb, Body Slam (two poison, one normal)
The list goes on.
And Ash is repeating this in Unova. Alright, Krookodile hasn't fallen into this trap, each move he knows is a differnt type, but others have.
Oshawott now seems to know only water moves, and Pignite only fire. Snivy's three damaging moves are grass type, with Attract for backup. Unfezant knows three flying moves and one normal. Leavanny now appears to be limited to two grass moves and String Shot only (had it used Bug Bite since evolving from Sewaddle?)
Scraggy sort of gets away with it, and Palpitoad and Boldore are better than the rest in terms of move variation. Palpitoad just needs to get a new one.

Then Torterra kind of let the side down a bit with three grass move and one normal, but hey at least he had a healing move (Ash just sucked at using it at the right time, and Rock Climb was usually a let down)

Ash's Pokemon in Sinnoh were frequently able to pull off surprise moves on their foes, like Infernape using the super-effective Dig on Paul's Electivire, or Gliscor using Giga Impact on Drapion before flipping through the air to get to safety.
Ash pulled off well planned stategies in Sinnoh. Admittedly this began in Hoenn with thing like Thunder Armor for Pikachu and Swellow, but only in Sinnoh was this used effectively, with the creation, and sometimes repeated use of Counter Shield, Ice Aqua Jet, Underground Flare Blitz and the Volt Tackle/Iron Tail combo that brought down Latios.

This stuff doesn't seem to show up in Unova anymore, and Ash's team seems to be lacking because of it.

Kanto (and Orange Islands): The first ever team he put together, he had his disobedient powerhouse in Charizard, his consistent battlers in Pikachu, Squirtle, Bulbasaur and Pidgeotto. He also had his strong reserves, through these two regions I feel each pokemon (Muk, Kingler, Tauros, Snorlax and Lapras) were shown to be very strong and had their good moments.

Johto: Showed that Ash does not have to evolve his team in order for them to be decent battlers, with each member in his team having their star moments. Although I admit this definitely looked and probably was his weakest team.

Hoenn (and BF): This is where his training began to take shape I feel, with each member not really being majorly stronger than another by the time the league came. Nice and well balanced, showed Ash to be a lot stronger.

Sinnoh: Carries on from before, having a large range of moves at his disposal, was probably his strongest team (which is why this is the one I have voted for). All pokemon bar one of his original Sinnoh team being fully evolved, Buizel was the only one who was not but made up for it with the development it received. Gible was caught late one, but it too showed how strong it is.

Unova: And his final team, I feel that this team is stronger than everyone gives credit for, the only reason it looks weaker is due to the lack of fully evolved pokemon when compared to how his Sinnoh team looked. He has a much much larger number of pokemon at his disposal, and they have a good range of moves really, overall in his entire team there are only a couple of types that are not covered, but can potentially be covered at a later point.

He wasn't terrible at battling, he just battled an overpowered Drapion, an E4 and had to give Infernape the spotlight on the last gym...

He battled a Claydol and couldn't even touch it. Claydol then got it's *** kicked by a Baltoy.

He was 1hKO'd by Pin Missile immideately after recovering himself with Synthesis. Pin missile.

Also check out a post of yours in another thread which implied that you don't think much of Torterra either:

Originally Posted by TheSirPeras

So if Quilava is the best because it was often used as a CYNDAQUIL, does it mean Torterra is super strong because it was great as a Turtwig? Or does it mean Swellow sucks because Taillow never won a battle? Uhm...

Pin Missile, bug move. And the writers always make weak attacks stronger. Quick Attack, Ember, Water Gun, Bullet Seed, Tackle, etc.
Yeah I don't think Torterra is great. He isn't terrible like you said though, for his two battles he could have won he was used as the fall guy for another starter (Infernape), and he would have never won against an E4 trainer. I really don't think he's great, but I also don't think he's terrible...

I don't know if it's an actual term but basically everybody calls official battles battles against people and like not 5 seconds scenes (per example). Imagine Torterra battles a wild Pidgey for 5 seconds (again per example), and beats it. I wouldn't call it a win since it was unofficial (wild, 5 seconds?).
But Torterra against Claydol was like 10 seconds and neither of them won so I wouldn't call it an actual battle. Different perspectives

While I do think Sinnoh had strong points in Infernape and Gliscor, I think Hoenn was his strongest. You can't get much better than Pikachu, Corphish, Swellow, Sceptile, Torkoal, and Glalie. I'm partially biased because I love all of those Pokemon. I do think his Sinnoh team was incredibly strong. Unova, Kanto, and Johto can't even touch Hoenn and Sinnoh as far as I'm concerned.

Charizard is still considered his most powerful pokemon
Pikachu is pikachu
Squirtle is a solid battler
Bulbasaur is his strongest unevolved, on par with many of his fully evolved pokemon
Lapras was pretty good, and even then, he was probably the weakest.
Snorlax is one of Ash's top dogs, on par with Sceptile and Infernape
and the Tauros is consistently a good battler as well