Elenin: Comet; Brown Dwarf; Planet X; or ??? – 2 + 2 =7

In my next post, which will be headed “Prophecies and Preparations”, I speak about the three areas of change referred to in the ancient prophecies –

(1) Socio-cultural-spiritual changes;

(2) Geophysical Changes;

(3) a combination of one and two.

This post is definitely about item two, the geophysical effects, due to the ever growing “buzz” about Comet Elenin.

This has been an extremely “interesting” post to put together. Not as much from the perspective of Comet Elenin, although that too has been absolutely fascinating. But from the perspective of personal reflection.

The more research I did, and the more information that I found out, the less I was able to start and write about it. On the one hand, I could have turned this post into a major epic. On the other hand I couldn’t bring myself to write anything. Possibly due to an overwhelming amount of information.

So I decided that the only thing to do was to reduce my findings as much as possible and so now it’s a mini-major epic. It is still a long article, but it comprehensively analyses virtually all of the different scenarios regarding Comet Elenin on the Internet at the moment, plus the prophecies on comets.

Also, because of the length of the article and the time it seems to have taken I’ve only done one edit on it. So if you’re a member of the typo police please write and let me know what to change.

Meanwhile, due to the length of the article, you might find it easier to just skim through, at least until you come to the concluding parts. That way at least you’ll know what’s here, and if the topic comes up, you’ll know where to look for another perspective.

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It was only a about March/April that I first heard specifically of Comet Elenin from what is often referred to as an “alternative” website. The message was that we, here on planet Earth, were in for big trouble from Comet Elenin later this year.

So I immediately checked out NASA’s version. They claim that we will hardly even see it, much less have it cause us any problems.

As I was caught up with other things at that time, I didn’t think about it again until recently, when the emails about Comet Elenin have been coming in thick and fast.

Interestingly, the information about Elenin falls into just two distinct camps: (1) those who say this is a REAL worry, and give their reasons for saying that, and (2) those, like NASA, who say we will not really even know it has passed. On the surface, both arguments seem quite credible. But they both can’t be right – or can they?

In this post I’ll analyse both of the common perspectives, and then offer a position that I’ve only seen alluded to on another website. But first I think that it’s important to briefly explain what I do and what I don’t do.

What I Am & Do and What I’m Not & Don’t Do

If you have seen my bio, you’d see that I do have a Master of Science degree, but that is in the field of Environmental Management. Basically, I am not a Scientist of any kind. I’m a Philosopher. My Doctorate is a PhD (Doctor of Philosophy) in Philosophy specializing in the field of Sustainability Ethics. And so unlike a scientist who comes up with a hypothesis and then empirically tests that theory; a philosopher primarily asks questions, looks for holes and half-truths in presented arguments, and joins dots.

And so that’s what I’ve done in researching the various pieces of information about Comet Elenin. So if you are a scientist and I have made a comment that is scientifically inaccurate – please join in the discussion and let me know. Indeed no matter who you are or what you do, this is an important topic and so I do hope that you’ll join in the discussion by making a comment in the comment box at the bottom of the page, after you have clicked on the heading at the top.
So let’s get going…

Background to Elenin

On December 10th, last year, 2010, an amateur Russian astronomer named, Leonid Elenin [Ele-nin] discovered a moving object in the sky. He’d been searching the sky for months using the newly set up remote observatory in Lyubertsy, Russia, which was linked to the ISON-NM (International Scientific Optical Network) observatory in New Mexico, USA. NASA decided that the object was a comet and gave it the official name of Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin).

At the time of discovery the comet was about 647 million kilometers (401 million miles) from Earth. However, as of May 4, Elenin’s distance was about 274 million kilometers (170 million miles)[1] . So that’s on heck of a distance in just under 5 months.

This applet is lots of fun to play with as you check out the location of the comet on any day past, present or future. If the trajectory model/applet doesn’t open for you, you might have to download the latest Java at www.Java.com Then refresh the page and it should start to download for you on that NASA page.

Also for scientists, there are lots of other tablets and calculations on that same page; most of which are way beyond me at this time.

In addition, on the above NASA page distances are given in < AU >. An ‘AU’ stands for an astronomical unit, which is just on 150 million kilometers, or a fraction over the distance between the Earth and the Sun [2] .

By February, 2011, the “alternative” websites got hold of the news, looked at the trajectory, and came up with a range of fascinating correlations indicating that Comet Elenin would really give us something to worry about here on Earth. Meanwhile, NASA continued to say that:

Right now, [Elenin] looks kind of wimpy.

You’ll probably need a good pair of binoculars, clear skies, and a dark, secluded location to see it even on its brightest night. …

There have been some incorrect Internet speculations that external forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer. …

Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets. … It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean’s tides than comet Elenin ever will.[3]

In the above quote it is interesting to note a number of what are often referred to as “weasel” words. Words that allow the author to weasel out of their position if something changes.

The article was put up on the NASA site on May 4th, 2011. And you’ll notice that they say:

• “Right now, [Elenin] looks kind of wimpy.”. So it is possible that it could change?

• “There have been some incorrect Internet speculations that external forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer”. That is not the main argument on the alternative websites at all. Shortly I’ll go into the main concerns of the alternative sector.

• “It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet.” So they are not saying that it will have no influence at all. The influence might be immeasurably miniscule as they see it “Right Now”. But I wonder if this could change?

Anyway, that’s NASA’s position and to date it remains unchanged.

NOTE: From now on, I’ll refer to Leonid Elenin, the discoverer of the comet, as Mr Elenin to distinguish him from the comet, which I’ll just refer to as either Comet Elenin or plain Elenin.
Interestingly Mr Elenin said “ In a month and a half [which will be late June/early July], the comet will cross the orbit of Mars reaching a heliocentric distance of 1.5 AU, and in the opinion of well-known astronomer John Bortle, at that time the show begins”[4] .

But what show will that be if, as NASA say, there will be nothing to see?

In a minute, I’ll examine the different various arguments on the so-called “alternative” websites and demonstrate why, in this case, 2 + 2 seems to be adding up to 7, or any other number you like other than 4. But first I’d like to briefly explain what a comet is, based on the standard accepted theory often called the “dirty snowball” comet theory.

What is a Comet?

The standard “dirty snowball” theory of comets, which is generally accepted by the scientific community these days, including NASA, says that comets are cosmic snowballs of frozen gases/ice, rock, and dust roughly the size of a small town. When a comet’s orbit brings it close to the sun, it heats up and spews dust and gases into a giant glowing head larger than most planets and can even be larger than the Sun itself. This glowing gaseous head is called a coma.

The dust and gases also form a tail that stretches away from the sun for millions of kilometers. The ice, dust, and small rocky particles that make up the actual solid comet itself, the Comet nuclei, can range from a few hundred meters in diameter to a size of up to 40,000 or 50,000 kilometers. Generally, however, the nuclei are less than 50 kilometers (km) or about 31 miles across.[5]

Here you’ll find an excellent short video (2.22mins) showing close ups and illustrations of Comet Temple 1 and the associated spacecraft Stardust mission, which was specifically sent to study a comet. You’ll be able to see what a comet’s nucleus looks like and you’ll also get a good look at the coma. It will help to give the above description some meaning.

in which they say that Vesta is more like a planet than an asteroid and they are referring to it as a protoplanet. Nevertheless, you can see the difference between it and a comet.

The Stories on the Web about “Comet” Elenin

As I mentioned above there are two main camps – (1) Elenin will hurt us later this year; (2) we won’t even know that Elenin passed by.

However, there are a number of other sub-stories associated with these positions, including the notion that Elenin is indeed a comet as NASA says. Other people however, say Elenin is not a comet but a Brown dwarf. Yet others say that it is the infamous Planet X first discovered in the early 1980s and then virtually never mentioned again by NASA. I’ll take a brief look at all these alternatives beginning with the most accepted position, and that is that Elenin is a comet.

NASA is the body that originally decided that Elenin was a comet. And Mr Elenin, the Russian man who discovered the object agrees. But then I guess that he would. Even so, most of the alternative sites also go along with the official line that Elenin is a comet. I’ll talk about the possibility of it being something other than a comet a little later.

If you Google Comet Elenin you’ll find thousands of people talking about Elenin, each with their own slant on what it is and how it will affect us. But in my analysis here, I’ll primarily focus on just one significant ‘alternative’ site that has quite an extensive look at the situation and covers most of the views of those who believe we have a lot to be concerned about as 2011 comes to an end.

The author of this site, whose name I can’t find which is always a concern, nevertheless, gives some very credible evidence, in the form of a table. This table indicates that Elenin has been responsible for many of the major earthquakes that have happened here on Earth over the past couple of years, including the recent Earthquakes in Chile and Japan. And he has also compiled a future timetable when he feels even greater geophysical events could occur here on Earth as Elenin comes closer to Earth and crosses our orbit later this year.

Future Elenin Alignments:

Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.

Oct 17 2011

Elenin closet to earth 0.232au

Oct 20 2011

Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull. WRONG!!!

Nov 02 2011

Earth enter Elenins tail – WRONG!!!/ previous path

Venus – Earth- Elenin – Mercury

Nov 11 2011

Sun – Mercury – Earth – Elenin

Dec 04 2011

Mars – Elenin – Jupiter

Dec 25 2011

Final Alignment:Elenin – Earth – Sun

Dec 21 2012

Now of course we have many earthquakes and if we showed them all, this chart would
then lose much of its meaning. The 9.1 earthquake in Japan though will never
lose its meaning and it happened on cue with an alignment with Elenin.

So the above table has been put together from two very credible sources with one caveat. That is that we believe the trajectory for the comet that NASA has set up in the applet.

Nevertheless, for the purpose of this article, I will accept that the NASA trajectory is as accurate as possible, keeping in mind that comets can have a slightly unstable or “eccentric” trajectory and can, at times, and under certain circumstances, wobble off course a bit. But this generally occurs in the outer solar system and beyond. In addition, you’ll recall that NASA assured us – see the above NASA quote – “Comet Elenin will not encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit”.

So based on the current credible information, after examining the table; one must ask how many coincidences can you have before you start to think ‘something MUST be going on here’?

Even so, despite the excellent and credible tables, in their zeal for proving their point that things aren’t looking too good for us, the authors of the BeforeItsNew.com site have made a really poor assumption that warrants major points off their credibility index.

The Size of Elenin

BeforeItsNew.com say, and I quote, “The coma is what astronomers actually see and is actually much bigger than the core. … they are saying that the coma is 80,000 km or 50,000 miles across. We could estimate that the core might be half the diameter of the coma or approximately 25,000 miles. Big enough—it seems to be already stirring up the Earth under our feet.
There is a lot of speculation going on about what this comet actually is and what it is composed of, but at least now we have an idea of its size.”

WRONG!!!

It’s true that the coma is at least 80,000 km across. Actually, Leonid Elenin [6] says that as of May 21st, 2011 the coma looks to have blown out to 100,000+ km in diameter and it could continue to expand even more.

The reason for these fluctuating coma sizes in “snowball” comets is said to be due to the huge and sudden outbursts or explosions of gas and dust [7] as the comet nears the sun and solar flares.

However, unlike the erroneous assumption that as the coma is about 50 miles in diameter then the core or nuclei must be about 25,000 miles in diameter made on BeforeItsNew.com, an assumption that has frightened the heck out of everyone, the size of the coma can fluctuate and can be massively bigger than the nucleus of the comet.

In 2007, the diameter of the dusty atmosphere of the coma of comet 17P/Holmes, was 1.4 million kilometers, slightly larger than the diameter of the sun. Even so, the solid nucleus allegedly made of ice, dust, and rock, was only 3.6 km (roughly 2.2 miles) in diameter[8] .

So for the author of the above piece to say “We could estimate that the core might be half the diameter of the coma or approximately 25,000 miles” is totally inaccurate and without any foundation other than a demonstration of lack of research and an ignorance of the characteristics of a comet and its coma.

If the diameter of the nucleus of Elenin was 25,000 miles then, yes, it would be time to run for the bunkers.
But the more common figure for the diameter of Elenin’s core is a mere 3 – 4 km [9] – a very big difference indeed.

Now sure, if that 3 – 4 km nucleus was to land in the middle of New York, the USA would have about 20 million people less than it has today. But the chances of that happening are virtually non-existent.

Theoretically, as NASA has said, it’s almost impossible for a comet 3 – 4 km in diameter, flying 22,000 miles at its closest point to the Earth, to affect the Earth in any way.

Similarly, it’s impossible for a “snowball” comet that is about 700 million kms from the Earth to cause massive earthquakes here on Earth. Yet major earthquakes did occur on those dates – see the table above – when Elenin lined up with the Sun and Earth and or other planets.

So what is going on? 2 + 2 = 7

By comparison to the above Elenin figures, the diameter of the nucleus of the Hale-Bopp Comet which paid us a visit in 1997 was estimated to be an enormous size of 40-80 Kilometers wide.[10] However, unlike Elenin which will be 34.8 million kilometers (21.6 million miles) away from Earth at its closest point or 0.232 AU. Hale-Bopp was a massive, by comparison, 1.315 AU [11] away from Earth at its closest point. Again, each AU is equal to 150 million kilometers.

Gravitational Pull???

Another thing to keep in mind is that many people in the negative – we’re all doomed – camp keep talking about the massive gravitational pull that the comet will have on the Earth and so cause these geophysical disruptions. Even on the table above it says that on October 20th, 2011 “Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull”.

WRONG!!!

Gravity is a very weak force, the weakest of the four fundamental forces of physics – magnetism, gravity, strong and weak interactions or forces. Gravity relies on mass to take effect.

Based on the common snowball theory of comets, the magnetic gravitational pull of a planet can affect and pull on a comet; however, a comet does not have the mass or strength to pull on a planet [12] .

So again, based on the common snowball theory of a comet, which NASA publically subscribes to, it would be impossible for the comet to have a gravitational pull on the Earth. Similarly, it would be impossible for Elenin to adversely affect the Earth from a distance of around 35 million kilometers away, which is the distance at its closest point to Earth on October 16th/17th or even when it crosses our orbit on October 20th.

So here we have the BeforeItsNew.com site, which is pretty representative of the “alternative” views on the web, with some very credible information and also some totally inaccurate and misleading pieces of information.

Meanwhile, NASA, as usual with important matters such as this, say very little for something that is causing such a stir in the community.

Even Mr Elenin [13] says regarding the size of the nucleus, “I estimate the size as 3-4 kilometers in diameter. … If Arecibo would observe my comet, we can determine the nucleus size with high accuracy”.

So why won’t Arecibo just take a quick look at the comet and give us some more information?

Arecibo is the World’s largest and most sensitive radio-telescope located in Arecibo, Puerto Rico [14] . It is where Jodie Foster worked in the 1996 film Contact. And it’s part of the National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center (NAIC), operated by Cornell University under a cooperative agreement with the National Science Foundation (NSF) [15] . So I’m sure that if NASA said; “hey fellas will you check out Comet Elenin for us,” they would. If they haven’t already done so.

There is another, now infamous, NASA page on Comet Elenin. It’s one that virtually all Comet Elenin posts are referring to with glee. It’s the NASA site – Ask the Astrobiologist.

Ask the Astrobiologist Page

If I’m ever feeling a little down, then I know I can always go to NASA’s Ask the Astrobiologist page and get my belly laugh for the day. This is a page I’ve been checking out from time to time over a number of years now. And it is always the same.
David Morrison, who writes the page, is really long overdue for a long course of happy pills. And it’s not just with regard to this topic. His unnecessary sarcastic, demeaning, and emotive attitude and comments seems to be a trade-mark of his answers to all questions.

But he really excelled when it came to his Comet Elenin response, for which he is rightly receiving a lot of ridicule on the web, which is known, Dr Morrison, as Karma.

The good part, which is being picked up by everyone, starts off as follows:

I have been receiving many questions about Comet Elenin. Many of them refer to the outrageous lies on some conspiracy theory websites, which are amplified by people who seem to think this comet is highly unusual. It is not unusual, and it is not a threat to Earth. …

In spite of these simple facts, some websites (such as godlikeproductions) are making wild claims that Elenin will hit the Earth, or disturb our orbit, or cause tides, or interact with our magnetic field. Such claims are pure fiction. One of the worst examples is a video that someone posted on the NASAbuzzroom website that claims that the magnetic field of the comet will cause a large shift in the rotation axis of the Earth and produce mega-earthquakes on March 15, 2011. It is hard to imagine anyone would take this seriously. …

Adding to the craziness is a claim that this same comet caused the Earth’s axis to shift by 3 degrees in February 2010 and caused the Chile Earthquake. These are simply lies; …

This was written by David Morrison, Astrobiology Senior Scientist with NASA on March 1, 2011.

As you will no doubt recall, one of the world biggest earthquakes – the 9.1 quake in Japan actually occurred on March 11th, 2011. So the crazy video he referred to was out by 3 days. I think that 3 days is acceptable.

Now Morrison deserves all he is getting over that one. Not as much because what was predicted to happen on March 15th actually did take place on March 11th, after he said on March 1st that the idea of a major earthquake on March 15th was “craziness”.

But due to his arrogance and rudeness over the past years with most topics. The worst thing about Morrison’s answers is that he is very skilled at telling half-truths. And they are probably the most dangerous and misleading form of untruth.

A half-truth has just enough truth in it to make the answer sound credible. But just because a few facts are credible does NOT mean that everything in the answer is credible. And in the past I have noticed that Morrison has a habit of not directly answering the question asked, but skirts around the answer with some credible truths coupled with ridicule.

Posted by Smiffa on Saturday, 14 May 2011 1:06 I have just recently inquired NASA & Astronomy sites about Elenin and its relationship to the earthquakes that occurred during the alignments between the Sun, Earth and Elenin. All discussion on this subject is not only denied but Censored as well. I was first flogged with a series of “Let’s make fun of you questions.” I answered each and every question with a valid scientific known fact or validated history. They censored my response with “Conspiracy Theory.” There was no Theory in my response, just Empirical Data that was mathematically improbable but totally acceptable to them as pure Coincidence, No Questions allowed. I reiterated the data and history and questioned their assessment. Censored again, with the threat of, “You will be ask to leave.”

Also, in my scientific answer to them, I posed a few pertinent valid questions of my own to them. No response. I sent my answers and my questions to the member of the site directly [The guy who ask the “make fun of” questions] and he responded but still offered no answers, not one. We got to know one another and made peace, but he still would not answer the simplest of my questions. Even after offering valid reasons for the questions regarding Elenin, No Answers, Nothing at all. No discussion allowed. What’s wrong with this picture? NO SCIENCE ALLOWED, NO DISCUSSION ALLOWED, ALL IS WELL, SHUT-UP OR BE EXPELLED. Honestly I do not understand this behavior, unless everything is NOT ALRIGHT. But who knows, we don’t, we cannot know because THEY won’t talk about it. WHY?

This attitude does NASA no good at all. It just makes thinking people very skeptical about everything that they say. Hence the name frequently given to NASA of Never A Straight Answer.

It is true that some of the NASA sites are excellent, such as the NASA Jet Propulsion Website – http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ .

Their articles are excellent with the latest findings and the photos on the site are (I can’t help myself) “out of this world!”
But once information gets past an initial disclosure, then all too frequently they seem to go strange and their credibility with regards to public information rapidly drops.

I strongly recommend that you check out any of the NASA sites for another perspective on anything at all. But always read the piece very carefully. Read what they say and far more importantly, read what they DO NOT say. And as Kelly Smith above so rightly says –“ if they have nothing to hide, why would they do these half-truths and limited discussion”.

Now having gotten all of that off my chest, one thing that Morrison did say that was true – but this is one of his deceptive half-truths.

Morrison said, and again I quote:

One of the worst examples is a video that someone posted on the NASAbuzzroom [this is NOT a NASA site] website that claims that the magnetic field of the comet will cause a large shift in the rotation axis of the Earth and produce mega-earthquakes on March 15, 2011. It is hard to imagine anyone would take this seriously. Comets don’t have magnetic fields, and magnetic fields can’t change the rotation axis or cause earthquakes no matter how large they are. Adding to the craziness is a claim that this same comet caused the Earth’s axis to shift by 3 degrees in February 2010 and caused the Chile Earthquake. These are simply lies; the comet was far away a year ago…

Now this is where things get tricky.

Even though Morrison thought it was a joke that we’d have a major earthquake on March 15th, yet we did have one on March 11th , he is right, to a degree, in saying the part that “It is hard to imagine anyone would take this seriously. Comets don’t have magnetic fields, and magnetic fields can’t change the rotation axis or cause earthquakes no matter how large they are.”

Dirty snowball comets can’t cause earthquakes. But he leaves it at that and does attempt to help the writers’ deeper understanding of any anomalies with regards to what could possibly be going on. Instead, Morrison chooses to ridicule people.

So where does this leave us?

We all know that an earthquake did occur on March 11th, and yet a snowball comet could not possibly cause an earthquake especially from such a great distance. And not once but over and over and over again.

2+2 = 7.

What is really going on here?

NASA swears that it is a harmless comet. And if it is a snowball comet it will be harmless to the Earth, with one exception to do with its tail. As I mentioned, above who knows what we’ll be showered with when Earth travels through the tail of the comet in November.

Question: Is it not possible that NASA, seeing what Mr Elenin found, convinced him it was a harmless comet, when indeed it was something less benign?

Now far be it for me to say that is what happened. I am just posing the question because the evidence out there just does not add up.

Question: If we, on planet Earth, were in danger why would NASA hide that fact from us? Well, that’s a no-brainer and the answer could go into a long list. But the main one would be to stop public panic, which in turn, would lead to a global economic melt-down. Pure and simple as that.

If it’s not a comet then what?

If Elenin is not a comet, the alternative suggestions currently on the web include, an asteroid, Niribu, Planet X, and a Brown dwarf.

Could any of these be possible? Yes! Anything is possible. So let’s briefly look at some of these and if they have the potential to cause the earthquakes.

Could Elenin be an Asteroid?

The interesting possibility is an asteroid.

Now as you might have read above in the NASA article on asteroid, Vesta – http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/news/dawn20110329.html – an asteroid is a small body which orbits the sun, usually in the outer solar system, and has characteristics a bit like a small planet. As discussed, some in NASA are referring to Vesta as a “protoplanet”. Asteroids have also been called planetoids [16] .

And the interesting part is that on the NASA website page with the applet that I love, they describe Elenin as a “comet/asteroid”. Now if they are so 100% convinced that it is a comet why would they say “comet/asteroid”?

A number of people have picked this up and are running with it saying “NASA says it’s an asteroid”.

But NASA never said it is an asteroid.

They just have this interesting “comet/asteroid” alternative. Why? – Only NASA knows.

There is no need to bend the truth saying that NASA said it was an asteroid, when that isn’t exactly what they said.
Just stick to the facts (A bit like Joe Friday in Dragnet for those old enough to remember – “Just give us the facts, M’am!”.

This discussion should not be about proving NASA wrong or proving anyone else right.

This discussion should be about getting to the truth and the heart of the matter. This is about getting some idea if we should be concerned or not.

And even if we all come to the decision that we should be REALLY concerned –heck there is nothing we can do about it except, perhaps be more loving than ever before.

Which is why I keep saying, now is the time to learn to be more loving and Raise your Love Consciousness because even if 2011 passes and nothing has happened, that’s great news and with those added skills you are still growing every day and all your relationships are blossoming more and more.

A number of people on the web are saying that whilst the “black hat” NASA scientists are keeping the truth from us all; there are “white hat” NASA scientists who are subtly hiding bits of the truth in the things that they write so that those who examine these statements carefully can find these nuggets and follow it up from there [17] .

Yes, I’m open to that possibility too. Indeed, I’m always initially open to all possibilities, as I hope that you are too.

The key to investigations such as these is to be totally open to all possibilities and not have a preconceived position that you want to prove to be correct. That doesn’t do anyone any good – but one’s ego.

So back to asteroids.

Could Elenin be an asteroid and not a comet heading our way? And if so, could Asteroid Elenin hurt us?
I have to say, No, and No.

Mr Elenin spoke of Comet Elenin and Asteroid 74732 (1999 RQ176) 18] passing very close to each other a little while ago. And when they passed each other images of Elenin were taken. And those images showed that the size of Elenin’s coma had increased to exceed 100,000 km or more [19] . And only comets have comas and a tail.

Yet all those earthquakes at the time of all those line ups on the table above just couldn’t be coincidences. And the standard snowball theory of a comet could not have had that effect. So what else is going on??2 + 2 = 7

Could Elenin be Niribu/Planet X?

Back in 1983 NASA allegedly came out with information about a previously unknown planet in our solar system that they had found, which they named Planet X [20] .

Then as fast as they spoke about Planet X they ended up not speaking about it and then denying its existence all together.
Meanwhile, in 1995, Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk who says she is an alien contactee who has the ability to receive alien messages to help the people here on Earth, said that a planet [probably Planet X] was heading on a collision course for the Earth. Since 1995, many dates have been given for this collision, but as we can all attest to, nothing so far has happened.

Needless to say, Niribu and any possible collision is totally denied by NASA and mainstream science.

Zecharia Sitchin is also credited with “unearthing” the name Niribu, which was a hypothetical planet spoken about in the ancient Sumerian culture [21] .

Not surprisingly however, there are a lot of people who believe that Comet Elenin is indeed Planet X/Niribu.
If Elenin is a normal large planet – Planet X or Niribu – then yes, we certainly could be in trouble, even if the NASA trajectory is accurate and it will be 34.8 million kilometers or 21.6 million miles (from now on the perigee will be rounded out to 22 million miles and 35 million kilometers) at its closest point to Earth. And most definitely if the NASA trajectory is inaccurate and they are hiding something.

But by now, too many non-NASA scientists and amateur astronomers would be following Planet X and a lot more credible information would have leaked out.

Further, again I refer back to Mr Elenin explaining that the Elenin’s coma was visible on the satellite/telescope photos that were taken a few weeks ago when Elenin and the asteroid passed each other. Only comets have comas. Also, Mr Elenin was able to gauge from the photos that Elenin’s nucleus was only 3-4 kms wide. A planet of any kind has to be far larger than that to be a planet.

So what about Elenin being a Brown Dwarf?

Could Elenin be a brown dwarf, as so many people are categorically stating?

Back to Planet X for a moment, the truth was that in the early 1980s no really knew what Planet X was. It was later thought that it could be a brown dwarf.

Now a brown dwarf has nothing to do with Sneezy, Grumpy, Sleepy, and the rest of them.

The approximate size of a brown dwarf (center) compared to Jupiter left) and the Sun (right). Although brown dwarfs are similar in size to Jupiter, they are much more dense and produce their own light whereas Jupiter shines with reflected light from the Sun.

Simply speaking, brown dwarfs are often referred to as “failed stars” as they are believed to be under the mass limit (about 80 Jupiter masses) needed to spark the nuclear fusion of hydrogen to helium, which characterizes traditional stars [23] .

It’s generally “about the size of Jupiter, with a much larger mass, but not quite large enough to become a star. Like the Sun and Jupiter, a brown dwarf is composed mainly of hydrogen gas, perhaps with swirling cloud belts. Unlike the sun, they have no internal energy source and emit almost no visible light. Brown dwarfs are formed along with stars by the contraction of gases and dust in the interstellar medium 24] ”.

“Because it has no strong central nuclear energy source, the interior of a brown dwarf is in a rapid boiling, or convective motion. When combined with the rapid rotation that most brown dwarfs exhibit, convection sets up conditions for the development of a strong, tangled magnetic field near the surface [25] ”.

The first brown dwarf was discovered as recently as 1995 [26] .

NASA does say that brown dwarfs are very new to them and so scientists are still taking every opportunity to find out all that they can about them because there is so much more to learn.

So based on what they know so far – could Elenin be a brown dwarf, and as such, could it hurt us here on Earth?

Again, if we assume that the NASA trajectory is accurate then a brown dwarf is certainly of greater concern than a “snowball” comet and it would have the size and mass to have an impact even though at its closest it will be 22 million miles away.

Having said that, for the same reasons that I’m sure that Elenin is not Planet X, I am also sure that Elenin is not a brown dwarf.

For one thing, Elenin is far too small. It has a coma, and again quoting from Mr Elenin [27] when asked if it could be a brown dwarf he said: “No, this is low mass object” like all comets, with “a density of less than 1g/cm3”.
As I mentioned above, brown dwarf are very large and have extreme mass or density.

So again, no to the brown dwarf and 2 + 2 =7

A Space Object Hiding behind Elenin – UFO?? Planet X ?? Niribu??

This final story that is doing the rounds on the Internet is a great example of “buyer [or is it reader] beware”. There are dozens of websites stating the following; and for the purpose of this exercise I’ll quote because that’s what everyone else is doing:

Based on reports published by China’s space agency; Sergio Toscano, director for Astronomical Research in Missions, said that behind the comet Elenin could be approaching a UFO.

Again, anything is possible.

Yet, reading the above piece I must ask: based on what reports? Based on whose reports? No one cites an actual original source from the Chinese Space Agency, which is actually called the China National Space Administration (CNSA), where this is alleged to have been posted.

If something is following Elenin, is it following immediately behind, or years, or decades behind?

The dozens and dozens of sites carrying this dire warning are all copying from one another. This tends to mean that no one can be believed. It’s important to look for the holes in any story.

If you happen to find an original verifiable source for this alleged comment please let me know what it is in the comment box below.

Personally, until I can get an original source, I give this proposition no credibility whatsoever.

My Greatest Concern

Now the biggest problem I have with any of these questions is that we only have one real source regarding the question “is something up there or out there and what is it?”. That source, of course, is NASA (remember aka Never A Straight Answer) and our particular government who would go along with anything that NASA said, for the same reasons that NASA has a credibility problem.

Global economic collapse.

So any half reasonable research and answers will be dependent on believing the fundamental data that NASA tells us.
Now I have no idea to what extent they are telling us the truth. I’m sure that the scientists themselves would always want to tell us the truth of their findings. But it is the government of the day who pays their wages and gives them all those great toys to play with. And I’m afraid that, for me, all governments of all countries have a real credibility problem when it comes to telling the truth.

And believe it or not – I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am just a realist where these things are concerned.

Most people over the age of about 50 in Australia will remember the infamous quote given by one of our high profile Federal Senators – Senator Graham Richardson. He said during an interview “Maybe we should just accept that lying is a part of politician’s job.”

I need say no more!

So based on what we’ve covered so far, I guess, at this stage, I am kinda sittin’ on the fence regarding the question “do we have anything to worry about with Elenin’s passing?”.

But let’s do a quick review.

All we really “know for sure” is that:

• Some object is heading our way and it’s been given the name of C2010/1-Comet Elenin. And really, that is the only thing we can be 100% certain about.

Added possibilities:

• NASA has given us it’s trajectory – see http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1;rad=0#orb So let’s give NASA the benefit of the doubt. Let’s say that that trajectory is reasonably accurate. I say reasonably accurate because, as mentioned above, comets are known to get wobbly and off course as they travel along and are influenced by other space objects, even though NASA assures us that this will not happen whilst it is in the inner Solar System.

• If we accept that the NASA trajectory is accurate, then we can accept that the distances that they have quoted are also correct. Based on NASA distances, at its closest point to the Earth on October 17th, 2011, Elenin will still be 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) away. This is a long way from the Earth. NASA says that Elenin should be at its brightest the day before on October 16th [28].

• Following are some other distances to compare Elenin’s 35 million kilometers with.

o The Distance between the Earth and Venus at their closest and furthest points on their orbits – 38 million kilometers – 261 million kilometers [29] So at its closest point to Earth, Elenin will only be a tad closer to us than the planet Venus is at its closest point.
o Earth and Mars – at closest point 54.6 million km [30] .
o Earth and the Moon from around 356,400 km to 406,700 km [31]
o As I mentioned earlier, the average distance between the Sun and the Earth is just under 150 million km.

• Again, if we believe NASA and Mr Elenin, then Comet Elenin is only 3-4 km in diameter and the coma is a legitimate 100,000+ km wide. This is quite a common size differential. And I’m more than happy to believe that.

The next question is; “Is it a traditionally accepted “snowball” comet, an asteroid, a brown dwarf, or Planet X”? NASA is the only one who really knows and they are sticking to the line that it is definitely a comet. Similarly, based on the images that Mr. Elenin spoke about he too insists that it is a comet.

• If it is a snowball comet made of dust, ice, and rocks then it would be impossible for it to have influenced the earthquakes which did “coincidently” occur on cue as per the above table. 2+2=7. And if it is a snowball comet then at the distances stated by NASA it won’t hurt us in the least – just as NASA claims.

• If it is an asteroid it will be too far away from Earth, even at its closest point, for a direct hit so that will be OK. And from what I have found, I too am still convinced that it is a comet.

• If it was a brown dwarf or Planet X then it would have to have a significant mass and as such it could have a significant gravitational pull, and so could blow some electronic circuits here on Earth. However, I am prepared to believe the evidence that we have so far telling us that Elenin is a low mass object and so It is far too small to be a brown dwarf, or Planet X.

• Finally, if we are to believe NASA and on this point I do, then I must return to Mr Elenin’s comment that the images taken when Elenin passed Asteroid 74732 (1999 RQ176) show that Elenin is definitely a comet and the coma is now 100,000+ km wide. And it could well get even bigger. You’ll recall, above, that the nucleus of Comet 17P/Holmes, was only about 3.6 km in diameter, however its coma reached 1.7 million kilometers wide – wider than the Sun.

So where does that leave us?

The bottom line is this – we have a choice to believe or not believe the facts and figures and story put out by NASA. If we believe all that they have said, then we can also believe them when they say that there is no need to worry at all. Indeed we won’t know it has even passed us.

And personally, I do believe all the facts and figures and trajectories and so forth that they have presented.

However, do you recall me saying that one of the greatest problems that I have with NASA is that their greatest skill is in telling half-truths. They didn’t get the Never A Straight Answer nick-name for nothing. And on this occasion I believe that they are leaving out a whole other dimension of the topic.

As I said a few seconds ago, I do believe all the data that NASA has presented.

Yes, I believe it is a comet. I believe the distances, the trajectory, and so on. But that still leaves us with the burning question: “how is it that all those earthquakes occurred every time Comet Elenin has a planetary/Sun line up”?

Otherwise no one else that I have found has mentioned this possibility with regard to Comet Elenin.

To me the only way to make 2 + 2 = 4 is if the Electric Universe theory is correct and Comet Elenin is indeed a comet, but an electric comet and not a dirty snowball comet.

The Electric Universe Theory

The Electric Universe theory is one that I solidly believe is the only logical answer to space sciences. As such it’s a theory that I love spending hours studying. Yet even today, it is still not widely accepted despite the fact that it has been around for over 100 years and it answers all of the currently unanswerable questions in physics, cosmology, astronomy, and the other space sciences.

Intriguingly, when the traditionally used sciences come across one of these unanswerable questions, they just say that the question is not important – it’s irrelevant. This reminds me of the medical fraternity calling the major part of our DNA “junk DNA” just because they don’t know what it is there to do.

As Dr Bruce Lipton claims, it is this so-called junk DNA that is slowly being activated as we move into this new cosmic age.

Nonetheless, it was recently reported that a NASA press release began to refer to certain astronomical phenomena in electrical terms [32] . This tends to indicate to me that they are accepting the Electric Universe theory without wanting to overtly say so at this time. Seehttp://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4692

Instead of talking for ages and ages, or writing for pages and pages, about the Electric Universe, I will give you the briefest explanation and some resources so that you can find out more about it yourself if you want to. Chances are I will write more posts specifically on the electric universe at a later time.

The best introduction to the Electric Universe theory that I can give you is on the introductory page of www.Thunderbolts.info

From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an electric universe.
David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill – Thunderbolts of the Gods

On the following page, once you enter the site you’ll read:

Today, nothing is more important to the future and credibility of science than liberation from the gravity-driven universe of prior theory. A mistaken supposition has not only prevented intelligent and sincere investigators from seeing what would otherwise be obvious, it has bred indifference to possibilities that could have inspired the sciences for decades.

David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill

This site, www.Thunderbolts.info, is where you’ll find the latest and most credible research and information on the concept of the Electric Universe. You’ll also find lots of videos on You Tube – just search for Electric Universe.

Following is one that gives you a bit of an introduction to Plasma and the Electric Universe.

The Electric Comet

With regard to “Electric Comets” one of the world’s leading physicists on the topic of the Electric Universe, Wallace Thornhill [33] says:

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period”

From the evidence briefly noted here, we conclude that the consensus about [dirty snowball] comets can no longer be maintained. Though the story has been presented as fact for several decades, a new perspective is emerging. A comet is an electrical phenomenon, as intuited by 19th century scientists. The immense envelope of the coma, perhaps several million kilometers across and bigger than the Sun, is a plasma sheath enclosing an electrified body. The filamentary comet ion tails, stretching across the sky, are part of the circuit carrying current from the comet. Given the fundamental electrical nature of the Sun and interplanetary space, a comet is subject to electrical transactions far more energetic and complex than expected.

To state the point bluntly, the underpinnings of modern comet theory have collapsed, though no official announcement of this fact has been forthcoming. Nor has official science yet faced the implications for planetary history. If cometary displays are electrical discharges, then a planet on an elliptical orbit will suffer proportionate electrical stress. It will become a comet and suffer surface etching. …

If lightning and auroras involve electric interactions of the Earth and the Sun, then space plasma is not electrically inert and cosmologists’ faith in gravitational models is misplaced. If the Io plumes are electrical discharges, then planetary geology must be rewritten. If a comet is discharging electrically as it approaches the Sun, then the Sun is the center of a radial electric field, though solar physicists have never entertained the possibility.

To state the point bluntly, the underpinnings of modern comet theory have collapsed, though no official announcement of this fact has been forthcoming. Nor has official science yet faced the implications for planetary history. If cometary displays are electrical discharges, then a planet on an elliptical orbit will suffer proportionate electrical stress. It will become a comet and suffer surface etching. …

If lightning and auroras involve electric interactions of the Earth and the Sun, then space plasma is not electrically inert and cosmologists’ faith in gravitational models is misplaced. If the Io plumes are electrical discharges, then planetary geology must be rewritten. If a comet is discharging electrically as it approaches the Sun, then the Sun is the center of a radial electric field, though solar physicists have never entertained the possibility.

With the relatively embryonic understanding I have of this theory, if Comet Elenin is an ‘electric’ comet, which I believe it has to be, then because of the interconnected nature of the plasma tentacles, I believe that Elenin could have impacted on the Earth and have caused earthquakes each time there was a line up, as per the Table at the top of this page.

And yes, as it crosses Earth’s orbit on or about October 20th, and comes closest to Earth on October 17th, it is not impossible that it could well interact with the Earth in some way.

This is the only way 2 + 2 = 4 for me.

Hannes Alfvén is known as the Father of Plasma, and after receiving his Nobel Prize for Physics in 1970 for his work in this field he said:

In order to understand the phenomena in a certain plasma region, it is necessary to map not only the magnetic but also the electric field and the electric currents. Space is filled with a network of currents which transfer energy and momentum over large or very large distances [34].

Begs The Question

Nevertheless, this does beg the question: if Comet Elenin is an electric comet and so could have an impact on the Earth, then all the other comets in the past have also been electric comets.

According to the electric universe theory there was never such a thing as a snowball comet. Comets are, and always have been, electric comets.

And yet the Earth has had close encounters with many comets in the past. Yet we are still here! Why?

This is a question that I’d like to throw open to you.

I am still researching this aspect and hope to get some expert answers to this question in the near future. In the meantime, I’d love your thoughts on all of this.

However, just a couple of my own thoughts at this stage.

1. Comet Hale-Bopp, despite its immense size, was much further from the Earth than Elenin will be. At its closes point, Hale-Bopp was 1.315 AU and Elenin will be only 0.232AU. Yet based on the Table above, Elenin was affecting the Earth and causing earthquakes from at least February 20th 2008 at which time is was 11.646 AU from Earth. On that basis the distance doesn’t matter.

2. When Halley’s Comet reached its perigee, or closest point to the Earth, on April 11, 1986, it was 0.42 AU from Earth and if you were around then it was, visually, a great disappointment. By contrast, Halley passed at only 0.14 AU from the Earth in 1910 [35] . Elenin will be .232AU at its closest point to Earth on October 17th. But back in 1910 when Halley was so close there were no problems at all. Or were there?

The 1910 pass of Halley’s Comet is an fascinating one. The Earth passed through Halley’s tail in 1910. When it was first realized that this would happen, many were proclaiming that everyone on the planet would die after passing through Halley’s tail due to the particles of toxic gas cyanogen in the tail. However, after the event it was discovered that the toxic gas was far too dilute to cause an “ill-effects”.

In the case of Elenin, despite virtually every website proclaiming that the Earth will pass through Elenin’s tail early in November, and we’ll all be adversely affected by the fallout of the tail, that is not the case at all.

A comet’s tail always flows and points away from the Sun. So in early November when it logically appears as if we would travel through the tail, Elenin will be on our right hand side and also on the right hand side of the Sun. In other words the Earth will be between the Sun and Elenin. As such, the tail will come ahead of the coma and nucleus. Therefore, we most definitely will not travel through the tail in early November, as everyone is suggesting.

However, depending on how long the tail is, there is a very remote possibility that we could travel through the tail around September 23rd, but only if Elenin’s tail is massively long, which is unlikely. Even so, just to explain, around September 23rd, Elenin will be a lot further away from us (0.446 AU from us, which is about 70 million kilometers away) than it will be in November. However in September it will be between us and the Sun and will be roughly parallel to Earth. Consequently the tail will be pointing away from the Sun and pointing towards Earth. Having said that, for the tail to be 70million miles long is a real ‘stretch’.

But definitely in early November Elenin’s tail will be on the far side of Elenin than we will be, and so all should be well on that front.

Another major consideration is that in 1910 the world didn’t rely on electronics as it does today. We all know of the negative effects that solar flares can have on our communication systems and electronic equipment. These days, the entire world, including all navigation systems, communication systems, satellites, TV, banking, utility services, the works all depend on a healthy electronic system.

3. Another significant consideration regarding the possibility of Electric Comet Elenin causing us some problems here on Earth, when comets in the past haven’t, could be one of timing, location, and frequency. It is not impossible that comets in the past have not passed through the same constellations as Elenin will. Similarly, if the harmonic frequencies entering our atmosphere are increasing to the degree that so many people are saying, then it is possible that the electronic frequency of Elenin will be in harmony with the new electronic frequencies that are now allegedly entering our atmosphere and this blend will add to the tentacle-like plasma filaments to conduct more energy to the Earth than any previous comets have done.

On this same point of location, Jamie, from Darkstar Astrology [36] recently wrote the following on his website.

On October 16 2011, Elenin will make its closest pass to our planet in its 12,000 year orbit. I have worked out the Comet Elenin Ephemeris for every day in 2011. For the closest approach to earth, 2011 Oct 16, 19:55 UT, comet Elenin will be at 10° 31 Leo, on a fixed star in constellation Draco called Giansar. …

So for both the conjunction of comet Elenin with the Sun, and the closest approach to earth, Elenin will be on stars in constellation Draco. This is what Robson [37] , [in the book Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology] says about constellation Draco, “It was said by the Ancients that when a comet was here, poison was scattered over the world”

Robson also gives more information about comets when talking about “Temporary Stars”. Their effect appears to be exerted through the constellations in which they appear, and also through the zodiacal sign and degree to which their position corresponds. They are said to cause inordinate heat, pestilence, sterility of the earth, wars and changes in kingdoms, winds, earthquakes and floods, and are assigned to the planets according to their colours”, p.226. He goes onto give interpretation relating to the planets, but I am waiting for more information about the color of comet Elenin to become available.

The Prophecies

Before I go, I thought that I’d just add another couple of thoughts regarding this time and a comet as discussed in many of the ancient, and not so ancient, prophecies.

Battle of Hastings
Comets have been observed since ancient times and have historically been considered bad omens. This could be due to the 1066 pass of Halley’s comet just prior to the defeat of King Harold II of England at the Battle of Hastings, which led to the takeover of England by William the Conqueror and the foundation of the current Royals. The comet at that time was so symbolic that it is shown on the historic Bayeau Tapestry [38] .

Nostradamus and Mother Shipton
Many prophecies like those of Nostradamus [39] and Mother Shipton [40], who many argue never really existed, loosely describe the appearance of a comet in the skies before the new world begins.

The Hopi
The Hopi say that we will have 3 days of darkness prior to the start of the new world. On September 26th +/-, Elenin will be in a straight line between the Sun and the Earth, but a lot closer to the Earth than the Sun.

As you know if you stand outside in the Sun, just your relatively small human hand can block out the entire sun from your view if you hold your hand between the Sun and your eyes.

So could it be that on or about September 25th – September 27th Comet Elenin will block out the sun from our view, as the Hopi have suggested will happen before the new world commences?

Mayan Calendar Cycle
If you’ve read any of the books on Mayan prophecy, such as Gregg Braden’s work, several dates will be familiar to you. The most common is the period of the 5125 year cycle which allegedly began in 3114 BCE and so will end next year, 2012 CE. This 5125 cycle is said to mark the end of one world age and the beginning of the next world age.

You will probably have also read about the Precession of the Equinoxes which is said to take five times the 5125 year cycle – so a total of 25,625 years which is normally rounded out to 26,000 years. Due to the natural wobbly of the Earth on its axis, the 25,625 years, Precession of the Equinoxes, is the time it takes for Earth to move through all twelve constellations of the zodiac as they appear in the sky.

According to most of the researchers, not only will 2012 mark the end of one of the 5125 year cycles, but it will also mark the end of the major 25,625 precessional cycle. Both cycles ending at the same time is yet another reason why so many are placing such emphasis on the 2012 end/beginning time.

Having said that, one extremely brilliant scientist in many areas and also a Mayan researcher, Maurice Cotterell, claims in his paper “Dispelling the Myths about 2012 [41] ” that all of the above figures and dates are a myth, and 2012 is the ending of nothing.

It’s always important to read an opposing view with an open-mind. However I do think in some of his explanations Cotterell is being a bit pedantic. Nevertheless, you can read his article for yourself and make up your own mind.

Meanwhile, however, the reason I have included this little section is because depending on which article about Comet Elenin that you read, Elenin has an orbit of between 10,000 and 12,000 years. As an example Wikipedia gives it an orbit of 11,690 years [42] .

Why is this relevant? Because two of the 5125 year Mayan cycles is 10,250 years. So could Elenin have been paying us a visit two Mayan cycles ago?

Dr Carl Calleman
Finally, if you’ve been following the excellent research of Dr Carl Calleman and his theory on the evolution of consciousness, you’d be aware that he claims that October 28th, 2011 +/- is THE date to prepare for, and not December 21st, 2012. Keeping this in mind, the timing of comet Elenin’s passing is amazing. Even so, Calleman does say that, based on his superficial research, he doesn’t believe that Elenin will cause us any problems.

Where to from here?

If there is a concern about Comet Elenin, or any other object in space heading our way in the near future, NASA would be well aware of it already. However, I must sadly say that I don’t believe that they, or any government body, would tell us about it. I firmly believe that they will just let us hit the iceberg, like the Titanic did, or in this case have the metaphoric iceberg hit us, and then it’s every person for themselves as they try to find their lifeboat.

Once again, I hate conspiracy theories, BUT governments around the world, including our own Australian government, have given me no evidence that they can be trusted to tell the truth, as I indicated by the infamous quote from our Australian Federal Senator, Graham Richardson [43] , above.

In summary,

* I definitely believe that Elenin will have a significant esoteric and spiritual effect on Earth, as astrologer, Richard Giles, suggested recently in my interview with him [44] . The effect will occur, if for no other reason other than the critical mass who are expecting something ‘special’ from Elenin.

* I believe that it could be possible that Elenin’s coma will expand to such a size that it does block out the sun to some degree for a considerable time. Above, I spoke about NASA’s “weasel” words. Note my weasel words in this point which I have bolded so you can become more sensitive to weasel words and watch out for them when they are used in all other communication.

* If the sun is blocked out, then it will be exciting to review the Hopi prophecies once again. This can be done by listening to my interview with John Kimmey [45] .

* The possibility that Elenin could be dragged off course and actually crash into the Earth is so remote that it is not worth mentioning. But as I always say – nothing’s impossible.

* For me the evidence is overwhelming that we live in an Electric Universe. As such, Elenin is definitely a comet, but it’s an electric Comet and not a dirty ball of ice.

* I believe than an electric Comet, under the right circumstances, especially with regards to harmony in frequency, could have a seriously adverse effect on our global electronics systems. This of course includes flying in aeroplanes, GPS, electricity, and everything else in our day-to-day lives. When serious solar flares occur and put out our electronics systems they are usually only down for a short time – sometimes minutes, sometimes hours. This could be the same, or if it has a massive effect it could be for days. Only NASA knows at this time.

* And finally, we’ve seen in the table at the top of the page, these ropes or tentacles of electric plasma could well trigger further earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and tsunamis, again especially if the electronic frequency of Elenin is in harmony with all other entities, such as the Earth, planets, and Sun.

My Personal Advice

My advice is that you just continue to do whatever you do on a day-to-day basis. Do not have any fear about anything at all. Fear is a negative vibration and negative vibrations at this time are of no help at all. Nevertheless, be open to all that is going on.

Continue to Raise your Love Consciousness and be caring and empathic to all you know.

Having said that, there is no way I’d be getting in an aeroplane and flying anywhere from mid-September to at least the end of November this year.

It’s like living up here where cyclones can occur. We had Yasi in February and 5 years before was a very bad cyclone – Cyclone Larry. So whilst we hope that we’ll never get another cyclone, everyone up here has a cyclone preparation kit ready at all times.

Similarly, everyone, no matter where you are, or what you believe, is well advised to follow the preparation guidelines in my next blog post headed “Prophecies and Preparations” which I hope to have up next week.

Other Websites and Resources

In this final section are a few extra websites and resources that you might like to check out, or in one case, beware of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK21TCNZ5fI
This video from “Inspirational Gal” is well put together and quite an interesting overview based on the NASA applet showing the movement/trajectory of Comet Elenin. Interestingly, she cleverly integrates the movement of Elenin with Carl Calleman’s predictions

http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Abstracts&tab1=Display&id=6239
If you go to this page and click on the box that says “Read the Full Version” you’ll find a very simple easy to read paper called “Introductory Guide to the Electric Universe” by Tom Findlay, in which he discusses both the Electric Universe theory and what is known as the “Standard Model” of the universe. Well worth a read if this topic is of interest.

Having read the article, I decided very quickly that this man was no scientist and after searching his site I discovered that he is a pediatrician. Now there is nothing wrong with pediatricians. They are essential. But just as a physicist probably doesn’t know a lot about pediatrics, this pediatrician doesn’t know a lot about science, or ethics.

My problem with his article is that he combines half-truths with extremely emotive language which does not help the debate, but instead has the potential to unnecessarily frighten people which is totally unethical.

I’ll give you a brief example:

Elenin is presently being tracked as it goes through the asteroid belt on its way into the inner solar system. I am truly sorry to have to be the bearer of such grave and threatening news but the source, NASA, is impeccable. We have an incoming mass (what might possibly be a neutron star) coming in and it will do a hard turn around the sun like any comet would, crossing and coming in between Mercury and Venus before starting its journey back out.

On its way out it will cross our bow, meaning it will pass very close to the earth and the earth will pass behind it, plowing into its tail.

Personally, I have no idea if we have anything to fear or not. However, I believe that we all have a right to be informed.

Following are some explanatory notes on the pieces that I bolded above.

I am truly sorry to have to be the bearer of such grave and threatening news but the source, NASA, is impeccable.
* The use of emotive words such as grave and threatening news is terrible and totally unnecessary.

* And to say NASA is an impeccable source without qualification is also a bit of a worry – but I’ll accept that.

* This is also an example of a half-truth. Using NASA as evidence of his “grave and threatening news” embeds credibility in the head of an unsuspecting reader.

… meaning it will pass very close to the earth and the earth will pass behind it, plowing into its tail.

* NO, as I explained above, the Earth will NOT “plough” through the tail, travel through the tail, or have anything to do with the tail. And even if it did, to say we will be “plowing into its tail” sounds more like some fatal car accident where someone plows their car into a brick wall.

* And it won’t pass “very close to the Earth” at all. 35,000 million kilometers might be relatively close, relative to Pluto, but not very close. Other comets have come a lot closer as I’ve mentioned above. Indeed Comet Honda will come within about 9 million milometers on August 15th, 2011. I’ll write more about Honda in another post.

Personally, I have no idea if we have anything to fear or not. However, I believe that we all have a right to be informed.
* Absolutely! We do have the right to be informed. But there’s a big difference between informing people and scaring the heck out them.

This is just one example of one paragraph on a relatively long page of writing. Again, it’s emotive language such as this that gives everything on the Internet a bad name.

Oh and by the way – he’s promoting the sale of an “Evacuation and Survival Kit”.
Maybe that explains it all.

Dear Dr. Kashonia,
I am so grateful to have run into your blog in regards to Comet Elenin. It was probably one of the most balanced and intelligent articles I’ve read concerning this important topic. I have feverishly been following all of the hypothesis on the internet, mostly alternative sites, since as you said, most government sites are not telling it straight.

I think that your theory makes the most sense, and I have read them all, beleive me. Your theory about Comet Elenin being an electrical Comet feels right with me. Intuitively I think I have finally stumbled onto a peice of real truth and I am very relieved and grateful to have found some credibly presented ideas about this whole crazy tangled mess we have created thru pure speculation. It feels like the closet thing to “truth” that I have read.

I agree that this mysterious mass (Elenin) is definately creating problems with our planet, and it is obviously affecting it. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. Our weather, politics, wars and dis-ease are signs that something is happening.
It may appear negative, but I think that it is a necessary process, that will in the long term, cut away dead wood for a new springtime on this planet. A time of renewal, growth and evolutionay positive changes.

I am a firm believer that we all emit energy, (electricity, vibrations etc.) so it may be wise for us to change our conciousness, calibrations and vibrations. Our planet is not getting the love it needs and the lack of it is showing in signs of neglect and wrong thinking on behalf of it’s citizens. The veil is lifting as we become more aware of our abilities and powers, as we are beings of light and are able to help our planet become more balanced, healthy and in harmony with the universe.

Personally I will continue to contribute, now more than ever by sending out positive, loving electical charges. If we all do that, it will be the best way to save ourselves. One small light at a time, and we can change the outcome. It’s up to us. Mahalo and Aloha for shedding light on the this previously dark subject. You have a new fan. : )

Fantastic work. You have approached this topic with great balance and composure, which is desperately needed as there are many wild theories online. One thing which I thought was missing from your discussion though was the inclination of Elenin to our ecliptic plane. Apparently most long period comets approach from an angle well off the ecliptic. Elenin, in contrast is approaching more or less in line with the ecliptic, which is why it is partaking in so many planetary alignments.
Best regards,
Baz.

Yes Petra you are so right about the importance of sending out more positive and loving energy.
And Baz, you make a good point about Elenin approaching in line with the ecliptic. I’ll have to look into that.

MAJOR CORRECTION TO MY POST – NOW FIXED

If you read my post on Comet Elenin, within a few hours of it being posted last Sunday, then I hope you’ll read this correction. If you’ve only just read the Comet Elenin post, then this correction is no longer relevant because I have fixed the problem on the original post.

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I was thinking today about my comment that we would travel through the tail of Comet Elenin and the possible effects.

But I just had another look at the NASA trajectory applet and it is most unlikely that we will travel through the tail at all.

A comet’s tail always flows and points away from the Sun So on this side of the Sun the tail comes ahead of the coma and nucleus. As such, we most definitely will not travel through the tail in early November, as everyone is suggesting.

However, depending on how long the tail is, we could travel through it around September 23rd. But at that time Elenin will be a lot further away from us than it will be in November. On September 23rd, Elenin will be 0.446 AU from us, which is about 70 million kilometers away ( I can’t find my calculator). But definitely in early November Elenin’s tail will be on the opposite side of Elenin than we will and so all should be well on that front.

Thanks Kashonia,
I like your approach. I had just convinced myself that it was a brown dwarf. Still not sure. There is still a lot of strange details you have overlooked. What about Elenin reaching perigree exactly 10 years after 9/11? When you say it backwards it’s nin-ele. Extinction Level Event- Ninhursag. The alleged discoverer leonid Elenin? Naaah. They already had the name long before 2010. If this guy even exists, he has to be in cahoots with NASA or even a planted agent. The only thing we know for sure about NASA is that they will never tell us the truth. So hey it might be an electric comet? but I wouldn’t believe so based on what NASA and their stooge says. So if they are claiming it’s a comet and nothing to worry about, then I would say it’s definitely NOT a comet and we should all be concerned. This is no time for complacency. The US gov. obviously know exactly what is happening and are going to use the next seizmic instability caused by Elenin on 7/7/11 to split North America in half. It is NOT a coincidence that the rivers will peak in louisiana right on schedule and the army is stationed througout the region with body bags. So it does not matter whether it’s a dwarf or comet. The people running this planet are insane. Just watch when their lips move to see what lying looks like. To summarise, I like your approach but look deeper, Ed.

Hi Ed,
I love your comment. Thanks for taking the time to write it. And actually there were a number of things that i could have gone deeper with, but I figured I’d written enough for one post 🙂 .

I do think there are some things we agree on, such as not to trust government bodies including NASA. Did you see my post about a week ago, just a few posts down on NASA’a emergency Preparedness Plan?

And whilst NASA does say it’s a comet they won’t admit to any connection to the thoughts of an electric comet. That comes from my own independent research.

I also love your connection to 9/11 with the NIN – ELE – that’s very cleaver and very interesting indeed. And you just might be right there.

But I really do believe that Mr Elenin exists – even if that is not his real name. I don’t think that Big Brother would go to the trouble of setting up his own website where he writes as if English is not his first language.

And re the Mississippi – there is already a nuclear power plant in Nebraska which had to be “temporarily” closed down due to flooding. So who know what’s next?

No doubt you’ve seen Gordon Michael Scallion’s site where he has the big map of the world showing that the USA is divided into two up the Mississippi.

Thanks Kashonia,
fake website is childsplay for BB. Just go to a dating site and you’ll find plenty of fake personalities. I did. The Illuminati always say things backwards and they always plan everything meticulously with close attention to cosmology. What we are trying to work out, they have known for a long time and are well versed in. Whatever is going to occur they are fully aware and have made plans to take advantage of it. They are destroying or poisoning as many food growing regions as they can, which doesn’t make sense unless the new tenants have totally different nutritional requirements? None of what they do makes any sense to a human being endowed with compassion. If they succeed in splitting US in half the nuclear disaster will surely be unimaginable? So what’s the point? I think it might be that there are no solutions in the world of duality but only within our hearts. The Illuminati have forsaken their hearts and want us to do the same. Cold rationality and merciless control through technology has replaced any spiritual notions they may once have understood. Our challenge is to remind these misguided entities of the trap inherent in their limited/limiting mindset which is the opposite of expansive. Hopefully before they kill us all. Nothing like a challenge eh? Have a nice day, Ed.

Ienjoyed your article and find it the best on this confuddling subject…I have spent days on end, reading everything I could find on the net and just ended up being negative, confused and fearful. I believe your theory, far more than that of NASA and all the other scientists. Please read the following article as well, and follow the links supplied.

Your analysis is generally good but a few details need attention viz:
.232 AU is 34.8 million kilometers not 35,000 million (21.6 million miles). Your point is well taken but this detail infers that other parts of your argument may also be wrong.

Being fair, there is only one incident (near the end) where this error occurs.

It occurs to me that there is another explanation to all of this – implied but not directly stated. The only reported witnesses to the actual ‘comet’ is either NASA or Leonid. If they are indeed in cahoots with each other, could this be a diversion for something else that is going on – perhaps politically?

Do you find it interesting that Leonid Elenin – composed of 2 words – when exchanged for the numbers each letter represents in the alphabet – totals 59 & 59. Implying 59 minutes (or the last minute of an hour) and 59 seconds (or in other words that last second of the hour or of time. I’m with Ed – I don’t believe the real name of this fellow is for real. But whether he is real, whether or not Elenin exists or is fable – there is diversion here. Something is being ‘slipped under the carpet’ and while we anxiously await September to roll around for some semblance of proof, we need to keep another eye on political and economic slight of hand.

Oh Bill, just as I said I loved Ed’s Elenin = 9/11 in reverse I also love your 59 – as in one second to midnight.

Aren’t you cleaver people.

I set up the website and am the volunteer webperson and editor for a friend who has taught me a lot over the years and he is excellent at number and letter codes. I do post a lot of passed-on information from other people for him. But when he writes his own articles they are normally worth reading even though I don’t always agree with all that I post for him. And some of the things he says are a bit esoteric at times.

You’re right, I did allude to the fact that we only have Mr Elenin and NASA’s word that any of this is true. And that is a worry.

The other thing that I’m hoping to write in the next day or so, is a very short post about the other 3 comets in the sky at the moment – Honda, McNaught, and Levy.

According to the NASA trajectory maps Honda and Levy will come ever so much closer than Elenin. But what I don’t understand and the question I’ll ask in my post, is why is all the fuss over Elenin and not the others. Honda is due to be at it’s closest in about 6 week – August 15th.

That to me is all very suspicious. Perhaps it’s because the other three are all short period comets and Elenin has a 10K – 12K orbit.

But I’ll post that question with the NASA maps and see what people have to say.

Now to your 3rd point about the diversion. I don’t know if the comet is a diversion. But I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT there is plenty going on that needs a diversion.

In the next hour or so I will post a short video which is an animation of the economic situation in the USA – that alone needs diversion. There are so many political issues worldwide that need a diversion if the “black hats” have their way.

Indeed, for anyone who has any belief at all in the major change in our socio-cultural-spiritual world then there is just so much “black hat” stuff going on that is all about to be exposed and changed for the better.

Now that is something that I definitely do believe. And no diversion will stop it. I don’t know about 1 second to midnight, but I do believe that the disclosures and changes are about 1 degree from boiling point and the lid is about to blow off the kettle at any time. And again, no one or no comet will stop it. And THAT’s what’s so exciting about this time.

The following paragraphs about “electric comets” or “charred metal electrical super-capacitors” was written by an anonymous commenter on a blog, and sadly, I cannot remember where! It makes for interesting reading nevertheless … it all has to do with the length of time the comet has been in deep space acquiring electrons, which in the case of Elenin is a long time.

“Elenin is a very dangerous comet because it is a long-period comet whose tail will blast the Earth with photons. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like NASA states, but are charred metal electrical super-capacitors that recharge a star. NASA will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic.

“Comets are electromagnetically connected to the Sun and planets by EM ropes (JPL, 2005). Extreme EM can cause earthquakes. This is what HAARP research is based upon. EM energy lubricates fault lines. The reason Elenin is causing quakes when other comets do not is because Elenin has been in deep space a long time gathering electrons to energize the Sun by discharging its capacitance.

“Comets pick up electrons as they fly through space. The longer in space without discharging, the more electricity is stored in the comet. When the comet approaches the Sun, it begins to glow because the electric circuit is energized by the Sun’s proton wind. When we see a comet suddenly brighten, this is because the comet is discharging electricity to the Sun through EM ropes which produces a burst in brightness. The Sun provides the positive charge and the stored electrons surrounding the comet provide the negative charge to complete an electric circuit. The metal comet nucleus behaves similar to the filament on a lightbulb when positive and negative wires are attached. The bulb glows.

“Comets do the same thing when the comet discharges its capacitance. The infrared signature for comet Elenin suggests the charge Elenin is carrying is so large that when the comet dumps its capacitance, the resulting photon eruption will engulf the Earth as the Earth passes through the tail around September 26th and then through the EM ropes on November 22nd.

“When Elenin was 14 AUs away on June 14, 2007, NASA photographed the comet when they took the infrared image for Google Sky. The infrared image indicates Elenin’s infrared electrical signature is 17 million miles across with x-ray jets extending over 100 million miles from Elenin. When Elenin flares and dumps its electron load (electricity), the photon flash will be so great that it will instantly turn the Earth’s surface into light energy.

“The reason other comets do not present the same threat is that most comets do not pass between the Earth and the Sun putting the Earth in the tail. Also, comets with periods of a hundred years or so are able to dump their charge more frequently which keeps the IR signature low.

“Elenin is different. There is no other object in space that humans have identified that has an electric signature in infrared like Elenin.”

In addition, NASA as you probably know, took down their Buzzroom website completely when someone dared to suggest that Elenin might get *much* closer to Earth than previously predicted by NASA. The official reply, here, includes words such as “weird” rather than “incorrect” or “wrong” so as you indicated, Not A Shred of Authority from that government spokesperson:

And, this video release from NASA has caused no end of consternation here in the U.S. This sort of information would be expected to come from FEMA or Homeland Security, not NASA, for example. The entire video has an eerie feel to it:

Yes I liked your article , and your right about taking Nasa with a grain of salt when they talk. However when you talk about planet-x or nibiru or browndwarf that you don’t believe it could be one of those and that you believe its comet elenin. Lets talk about comet elenin , first of all who can believe its a comet just because someone says its a comet theres no actual pictures of it anywhere and if you talk to any astronomers that are looking for it they can’t see it. Also its funny why Nasas buzzroom shut down in such a perfect time . Now I’m not saying it isn’t a comet but something isn’t right there. On the other hand if it is a brown dwarf or planet-x whatever you wanna call it theres certainly many reasons it could be. If it was a brown dwarf its gravitational pull could cause earthquakes on earth when aligned with earth ,we also have to remember that all the planets in the solar system have been heating up ,their poles have been shifting for the last few years. also solar radiation is at an all time high which a brown dwarf emits alot of. People also say if it was a brown dwarf you would be able to see it ,well thats debatable scientists say it’s almost impoosible to see them because the dust cloud that surrounds them absurbs light making it very hard to see. Infrared telescopes are the best to detect them. I’ve read in an article that in the last 10 years around the world governmnents have spent upwards of 3 trillion dollars on these particular telescopes ,I wonder why. Theres a whole lot more to say but theres to much ,so I’ll end it here. I like to say I wouldn’t count out the brown dwarf , planet-x theory yet . The next alignment is sept 27 2011 if nothing happens then I think were ok ,If something does happen run for the hills.

I am glad I found this. I agree NASA and other powers do not tell the truth, at least the whole truth and they seriously under-inform their populations. Here in the USA we recently held a multiple state wide “Preparedness” exercise. The “format” included epicenters for 7.0 to 7.5 earthquakes, flooding and infrastructure damage. The goal was to get state officials to work together to maintain order. The after event included “P.O.D.S.” being placed in rural areas in many states as well as additional “Be Prepared” service announcements.
Even if I did not know anything about Elenin, I know somethings up. I have been living close to the earth since I was young. I have grown gardens all my life and never in all my 6 decades have I seen winter fruits forming before the 4th of July and at the same time summer varieties failing to fruit at all. Late summer herbs are seeding along with mid-summer ones. Wild animals and domestic ones are full of fat which is unheard of during the summer as fat keeps heat in.
So…. is the planet preparing for some serious re-arranging? Does she know something and is trying to tell us in non-verbal communications?
As a person who works with G.P.S. devices the daily/weekly and monthly discrepancies are causing additional work and recalculations as the “sensors” and “readings” do not match from one day to the next.
While I can not say exactly what is happening I can tell you that based on plant growth, seeding/fruiting and animal behaviors the first signs of fall will arrive in mid-September and full winter on by late October a full month to six weeks too soon.
Sara

Wow Sara how interesting – especially re the GPS equipment.
I too have spent over 6 decades living close to the Earth and I agree, the animals and all of nature (except her human species) all know in advance. And so what you have said there is very interesting, of course. But as you know, some seasons do come early and others come late. So there will be those who argue that that is just what’s happening – even though it might not have been seen before.

But if you have to recalibrate your GPS equipment on a frequent and regular basis; that really is saying something very specific.

There are two scenarios in the works.
1. Is that we are to have a true polar wandering. As I’m sure you know, that is when the actual ball that is the Earth rotates somewhat. It has moved slightly in the past and is predicted to move again about 17 degrees in the opposite direction to the angle it’s on at the moment. Despite what many people are saying the actual ball that is the Earth will never roll over 180 degrees so Australia physically moves to what is now to top of the ball.

2. However, the far more likely, indeed quite likely scenario is that we’ll have a 180 reversal of the MAGNETIC polar system. So that whilst the ball is stil facing the same way up, the compass north will point down to Australia and so the US will be in what will then be called the south.

It used to happen every 150,000 – 200,000 years and yet the last time that happened was about 780,000 years ago. So it is long overdue. Indeed currently there are patches off Eastern Africa in the southern hemisphere that now show north.

Some people say a full MAGNET reversal of Earth would take about 400 years. Others say only a few months.

And every 11 years the Sun has a 180 degree magnetic reversal and that happens in a few short months.

If that happens on the Earth in the near future you really will be working overtime recalibrating your GPS equipment.

Yes you are basically right that I have based my belief that it really is an actual comet on NASA’s say so. Yet I keep saying that I don’t believe NASA. So definitely a contradiction.

But I also said that if it was big enough to be a brown dwarf that other amateur astronomers would have seen it by now and told us.

Which brings us to the other VERY interesting comment you made. And that is that “if you talk to any astronomers that are looking for it they can’t see it”.
Now if it is still unseen by anyone other than NASA then perhaps “Houston we [do] have a problem”.

There are definitely many other political and economic cover-ups going on at this time and an Elenin scare might be thought to be a distraction.

All we can do is wait and see.

NASABuzzRoom is/was not a NASA site. It was a private alternative website. So perhaps big brother NASA decided that a private site should not contain the name NASA anywhere and had it closed down. If so, I’m sure the word will get out soon.

Your blog was great, very informative. I never heard of the Electric Universe Theory, but it got me thinking about Nikola Tesla, and how he played with electricity in almost all his inventions. Perhaps he knew something we didn’t? After all, he was born exactly at midnight, during an electrical storm. Interesting huh?

Do go to http://www.Thunderbolts.info This is where you’ll find the best information on the Electric Universe. Also, in a few week’s time I’m hoping to interview Wal Thornhill who is arguably the World’s leading Electric Universe researcher. So stay tuned for more information on that.

Hello;
Well done article and much appreciated. You have covered the topic with quiet elegance, sound insights and definable conclusions based on data that is questionable, but one must work with what they have.

A couple of thoughts. First, the Project Camelot event of last Friday with Richard C. Hoagland(RCH) and four other players of note on Elenin. I would hope you become familiar with their insights. RCH has been a NASA thorn, knowing them well and the author of NASA Dark Mission has strongly moved from ‘scientific’ view of Elenin to ‘being directed’ based on his research and the buzz among his NASA contacts. Do check out the above video ($33!!), the short RCH utube from part of it and his website(http://enterprisemission.com/).

Second and less substantive, Wal Thornhill makes it clear that in reality a comet of any size could not ‘strike the Earth’ as the discharge from the Earth to the comet, based on its accumulated negative charge would destroy the comet! On this one, I am referencing this from memory, ever more questionable as the years pass by, but the point is that, as I understand it, it is rare that any larger comet or asteroid actually strikes the Earth or any other planet in the solar system; that the electrical discharge that inevitably results, due to the electrical exchange and the vast difference in size, OBLITERATES the object itself; that the Arizona Crater, etc are often the scarring from such an encounter and not the result of any asteroid or comet physically ‘striking’ the Earth.

I am sure the latter point is covered correctly on the website for Thunderbolts you mentioned, but this what I remember.

finally RCH and the others agree that there are 1-2 other asteroids that are equally, if not more important than Elenin during this time frame and that the ‘coincidences’ of events, the characteristics of this one, the timing and the NASA Chatter, and misdirection suggests something else than a mere, inconsequential passing of Elenin, et al this Fall!!

Thanks for the thoroughly researched article. When I try accessing the link to David Morrison’s article I get the following: “Invalid or missing question id.” However if you delete the last three characters of the hyperlink (“the”), then the URL works.

Thanks so much Mike for picking that up for me. I’ve now removed the “the” and tested the link and yes it works. But it now looks as if NASA have removed the post, no doubt due to the beating Morrison was receiving all over the web for it. I’m glad I copied the relevant pieces and pasted them into my post when I did.

Hello Noel,
Thank you for your kind words, and also your added comments and information.

This has been a wonderful post/article for sharing. So many people have shared with us all a lot of extra bits and pieces.

1. I was aware of the Project Camelot on-line video conference but for some reason had not followed through with it. But it was on June 24th – 3 Fridays ago – not last Friday wasn’t it? Or are you talking about a newer event?

Anyway, on your suggestion I immediately looked at the You Tube video of the preview and have now posted it on my blog – http://www.kashonia.com/summary/elenin-planned-event And I have also paid my $33 to get the 5 hour streaming of the entire event. And started to watched it but phone calls had other ideas. So I am very keen to watch it over the next day or so.

2. Yes I totally agree with you re Wal Thornhill’s electric comet, comment, that due to the electrical exchange the Earth would probably obliterate the comet. This was displayed several years ago when Comet Linear travelled too close to the Sun and was blown apart – see the film and article re Comet Linear on the Thunderbolts site at http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050520linear.htm Linear was seen to completely Discharge or Burn-up on its orbit around our Sun.

3. I have yet to hear what is said at the Project Camelot conference – but RCH and others are completely right regarding the asteroids that are coming very close to the Earth. A few days ago I put up a post -see http://www.kashonia.com/summary/elenin-concern – with the trajectories of about 4 asteroids and one especially 2005-YU55 will be travelling between the Earth and the Moon on November 9th – the very day the US government chose to “test” their nationwide emergency system.

I am just about to write a post on that because that is the one to watch – not Elenin. Now it could be true that Elenin has been sent by the “White Hats” from another dimension as a message, but Asteroid YU55 is the one to give us some excitemnt in November.

From what I can tell, on one of the NASA sites re YU55, they are giving conflicting distances (surprise, surprise). But I must admit that maths is not my strong suit, even with a calculator. So when I put this next post up, I’ll give some figures that NASA have presented and ask for some help to convert them to miles or kilometers for me.

If a brown dwarf sun/star did come into this solar system, most of our planets in the entire system would take off in all directions as the gravitational effect of a body like this would disprupt the entire system. You could say, goodbye earth and its population if such an event really did happen. So Elenin is NOT a brown dwarf, or a black hole or whatever.
Wal Thornhill’s hypothesis or theory on comets being electrical plasma balls is very interesting , and one thing that needs to be made clear is that Wal does not say some comets are dirty snowballs and some are plasma. He says they are all plasma/electrical objects. The whole lot. The electrical discharge between the sun and the comet back a few years ago that was observed by NASA and then wiped from their records was real. Its back here on the comments earlier.
It shows that we don’t yet fully understand the nature of comets and of the Sun itself. Maybe Elenin will bring some more knowledge forward.

The wild speculation is about Elenin and “Nibiru” are probably less of an organized disinformation campaign than an expression of poor educational standards (which NASA is paid to elevate). Most people don’t know the difference between the characteristics and orbital behaviors of comets and brown dwarf stars in a binary solar system – which Brander accurately differentiates below. So much for the vaunted 60+-year-old “Space Age”!

I look forward to any insights gained from your reviewing the Project Camelot 5 hour Elenin story. As it stands, I find your efforts the best out there for bringing it all together. I thank you for that.

As discussed, there are some critical dates that we can monitor and observe what happens. This convergence of Ancient history calendars, this next Great Depression unfolding, and the clear growing influence of the Many gaining knowledge about the world and causing the Ancient Regime, or its newer or more popular name, Globalist, Anglo/Elites/Banksters and their Bilderberger agendas have become known and the people are fighting back. But, this game is 4-5,000 years in the making, and given the ancient aliens and earlier humanoids were probably here milleniums ago, left because of catastrophes at solar system levels, even Cosmic Wars (A la Joseph Ferrall, Hoagland and others), these are truly ‘interesting times.’

Break Away Civilizations a la Dolan, numerous artificial structures including Phobos and at least one of the moons of Saturn, then the Moon itself and its clear mysteries, and of course Mars, well Hoagland and others have suggested, ‘The Game Is Afoot’ (well it is all a mystery and makes me think of Sherlock Holmes).

I just hope it is all not another Y2K un-event, and, given the economic downturn is inevitable, (There goes my Austrian economics expressing an opinion) The dark times ahead, though worse than the ’30s’ will pass and, after the GREATER WARS by the shameless elites, there will be most likely greater awareness of the value of freedom and liberty, a rebirth of decentralized groups, the demise of nation-states and, even with alien or Secret Space Wars, there will be a re-birth of something good. I do believe this.

Back to comets: seems a growth in consciousness will be coming and Elenin is but the tip of the spear for this re-awakening of awareness. Disclosure of our ‘not being alone’ is coming and will forever change things, IMHO.

David Talbott, Wallace Thornhill are attending some conference in Md. where major presentations on natural science and electric universe will be taking place. It will be interesting to see if anyone discusses either Elenin or other near-Earth asteroids and any possible interactions with any of the solar system members, sun included!

(I decided NOT to go as Md/DC is not a favorite spot to be in late July/August. It the place to LEAVE… talk about hot/humid…)

Hi!
I tend to lean toward the electrical comet theory as well but recently in my research online, I saw on the SOHO website where they had filmed a “comet death” as it was flying into the sun for the first time. As usual, NASA is on board with the ice snowball theory and how could you explain this in the electrical theory? Possibly it was discharged as it flew toward the sun and the comet was so small it was disintegrated by the sun? Here is the website – http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/pickoftheweek/ They may move it out of the pic of the week soon and it may be harder to find this in the archives. Thanks for the wonderfully written blog Kashonia, I am now a fan!!

hi
my name is Dmitry
I have an unpleasant comment about relation to the prophecies
1
the relation of the comet to the nuclear disaster it will be new to the most of you
And second relation to the prophesy of Nostradamus

1
Revelation 8:10-11
Wormwood – has an translation to Russian language as a word (?????? –it has another name well know in the world as chernobylnik’- ???????????? –Chernobyl’)
So lets se if the prophesy have relation to the present time
Wormwood = Chernobyl
10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water– 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
If we accept that Chernobyl have became a symbol of nuclear disaster then it
Gets clear relation to what had happened to fukushima
The star has triggered the earthquake
Which followed the tsunami and nuclear disaster bigger then Chernobyl’ was
A lot of polluted with radionuclide’s water was spilled into the Oceanus
More than 100000 tons
and the situation getting worse
So the pollution will only grow I now that experts
Believe that that accident will continues a couple of years
And consequently there are some possibility that bigger part of the Oceanus will
Be the polluted – bitter water
The news from Russia
Russia has cancelled all the contracts with 360 factories in Japan
which export food and fish – because Japanese have bitter water –harmful -bitter

Actually now is clear that any earthquake bigger than 8.5 can trigger nuclear disaster
So possible that elenin is the star from the bible
2.
Nostradamus

Century 2, Quatrain 62

Mabus then will soon die, there will come
A horrible undoing of people and animals:
At once vengeance one will see vengeance,
One hundred hands, thirst, famine, when the comet will run.

Breaking down the quatrain we see that someone has died meaning Osama Bin Laden possibly

Thank you Richard G for reading and adding to Kashonia’s organized presentation! I was wondering what your actual opinion of is on electric plasma theory. You would know best what NASA has wiped. Cheers!

I just found what I think is the latest info on Comet Elenin avaliable today, and from the horses mouth it seems.
This image was accessed by Astronomer Leonard Elenin as can be seen on this web page.http://spaceobs.org/en
Here is something people have been looking for, it is the images taken from the STEREO-B spacecraft of Comet Elenin, on the 5th August, there is a green and lower down is a blueish image, allow them both to download, then click once on the green image, you should be able to save the bmp file.
This will show you where the comet is on the photo.
The red spots in a row is ORION, look to the left side of the photo about 2/3rds the way down and you can see the object itself moving.

I have been looking for this one for a few months now.

On the topic of the earths tilt, I read there is a gentleman living in his house just above the topic of cancer in the USA for decades, the sun had never peeped through the north facing windows, ever.This year the sunlight poored through his northern windows, this is supposed to be impossible, but the earth has tilted and something of immense size did this.
I will put a vertical rod in the ground here, and see if it casts a shadow towards the north, if this occurs, then that is more evidence the earth has tilted beyond the tropic of Capricorn.

Last year I marked on my back fence (facing west) at home when my brother arrived in Brisvagas from New Guinea, 3 weeks before we flew back there together.
Gess what, 1 year later on the sun set 3 weeks north of the place I had marked on my back fence. Verified the earth axis has tilted.

I made it just in time to listen to the webcast, a couple of minutes to spare in fact to hear Wallace Thornhill explaining the Electric Universe and his views on Comet Elenin.
I found it all very interresting and need to take a deeper look into this.

Kashonia,
I have been digging around and found more information.
This website here http://www.curtrenz.com/comets.html is worth keeping in mind to see where and what Comet Elenin is up to.
It displays the comets position in graph form.