Justin Christian is a 31-year-old with 43 big league plate appearances. Guys like that usually have some stories to tell. Inspiring ones, too.

Christian’s story involves being told he’ll probably never play pro baseball again, and not by any old quack. It was Dr. James Andrews, the noted orthopedist, who tried to temper Christian’s expectations after he shredded his right shoulder capsule in 2009 with the Baltimore Orioles’ Triple-A club.

The damage was extensive, but Andrews was able to stitch it together in a unique procedure. And Christian was back playing in the Yankees’ system in five months. While lighting up the scoreboard for Los Mochis in the Mexican League this winter, he caught the eye of Giants Double-A manager Dave Machemer. It was an easy call to sign with the team for which he grew up cheering.

“Will Clark, Matt Williams, Robby Thompson, Brett Butler — all those guys,” said Christian, a graduate of Aragon High in San Mateo. “To have the opportunity to pay for your childhood team is definitely a great experience.”

Christian is a fan of one other Giant: Andres Torres. He certainly took inspiration from Torres’ breakout season as a Thirtysomething minor league journeyman.

“My story has not been easy. It’s been long and arduous,” Christian said. “Any time you hear a story similar to yours, you empathize. You know how hard it’s been.”

Is Christian’s story still being written?

“I’d like to think so,” he said. “Hopefully this is the beginning of something great.”

The irony: The Giants are looking at Christian as a possible replacement for Torres, who is really out of sorts and is no slam dunk to be offered arbitration this winter.

“We’ll put him out there and see what we have,” Bochy said. “With Nate (Schierholtz) out, we’ll try to put some offense out there. He stole a lot of bases down there, with a great percentage (54 of 59). He’s certainly going to be looked at, sure. That’s why he’s up here. You get called up and put on the roster, you’re thinking beyond this month.”

Even though Christian and 27-year-old Brett Pill are in the lineup, it’s not exactly a youth movement. It’s also not a surrender lineup. Bochy said “we think we’re putting our best club out there to win this game today.”

(Before you read too much into Aubrey Huff’s status, know that his lower back is acting up again. That’s why he was taken out for a pinch runner in the sixth inning last night. Also, Pat Burrell’s foot is too sore to play and Pablo Sandoval is getting a day because Bochy doesn’t want him to aggravate his shoulder by swinging right-handed.)

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Barry Zito faced hitters in a simulated game and threw 50 pitches off a mound. Bochy said Zito doesn’t have time to get stretched out to start, but he’d be activated as a reliever as soon as he’s ready.

That’s the plan for September. What about beyond that? Where does Zito fit in the picture?

“Good question,” Bochy said. “I don’t know. I don’t think we know. I can’t answer. We’ll have to sit down and talk about it.”

It was very interesting to see how Zito would arrive in camp this spring after being left off the playoff rosters. Now, after being basically left in the DL holding tank for most of this season, it’s clearer than ever that he cannot count on being one of the starting five.

I have to believe the Giants will do everything possible to trade him this winter, even if it means eating nearly all the $46 million still owed to him.

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Check out that lineup again. There isn’t a single player who was in the opening-day lineup. That’s not all. Mark DeRosa is the only player who was actually on the opening-day roster. Three guys — Pill, Christian and Eric Surkamp — weren’t even in big league camp this spring.

And yet the Giants are a contending club, at least barely.

Told that the Giants would be tied with St. Louis for the proposed second wild card, Bochy lit up:

“I think they should do it this year and see how it goes,” the manager said.

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One step forward (playing youth), one step back (still playing Cabrera). I don’t understand why Bochy keeps running him out there as often as he does with his atrocious defense and crappy plate discipline. Please be done with Cabrera (and Whitesonde too)!!

AHJ- I didn’t say it was more important and I can why your calling me out on it. I guess I’m saying timing was bad but hey I’m happy he went but that his arm was missed. I thought about it and the team really missed his arm. Now that you brought it up just call it a moment of insanity on my part. No baseball game is worth missing the birth of a child. You are right for calling me out on that.

With Zito’s spotty, extra-slow pitching when he was healthy this year and mediocre to poor second half last year, combined with two injuries that were for real at least part of the time he had them, what team would want to take a chance on him? Even if the Giants pay most of his salary? Any teams at all interested would just wait for the Giants to give him an unconditional release and have the Giants pay every penny remaining on that contract. Not to mention the fact that Zito does have a no-trade clause. But it would be good for the Giants and him to part ways. Both parties need a change of scenery, even if it will cost the Giants over $40 million to do it.

Zito and his agent should negotiate a buyout term. Yes the money is guaranteed so there is not reasons for Zito to do anything but Zito should talk to Bowtie…not Sabean, talk to Bowtie. Can he live with 40 mils ?

Well, it’s just one AB. Crawford hit a grand slam in his first game and proceeded to hit under .200 the rest of the season. Of course, Pill could be a decent player too. The only way to know is to play him.

Cabrera is going to cost the Giants another game with his so-called defense. How can Bochy possibly think he should be in there. I don’t care if Crawford goes 0 for whatever, it’s an upgrade over Cabrera.

I was going to say virtually the same thing–that he pitches way to much like Zito to ever be effective. That slow slop will eventually get pounded out of the park. “When they don’t hit their spots”, when they say that about a pitcher especially when they are not pitching to the Giants pathetic offense it means they can be hit at will.
Crawford looked good for a few games then settled back to what he was a Class A hitter. Pill at least did it in AAA but it’s Sept. and it’s the Padres who have given up on the season.

Is it just me, or does Surkamp have a little Zito in his bloodline? That curveball just isn’t that special to me, nothing like Gio Gonzalez with the A’s. Maybe it’s that screaming 88 MPH fastball that goes with it. I guess it’s safe to say he’s not the second coming of Bert Blyleven.

They shouldn’t have traded Wheeler. I think bringing up Surkamp is an attempt to draw attention away from that. Hard to say how well Wheeler will pitch and he’s had a so-so year but he does throw in the mid-90s. Surkamp throws in the 80s. Every non-Giants sports writer has called him a back-end rotation pitcher.

Where are all the Beltran haters?? 3-3 tonight. Dude’s hitting like .500 over the last week with power. No Giant on the roster now had any streak like this but Pablo during his 25 game hit streak. Tired of dumpster diving. Get this man on the roster with a decent contract for both sides for next couple years. Build around him, Posey, Pablo.

To all Beltran haters- you were WRONG!
Kepp hitting too. The reason the Giants stunk this year offensively was not the Sabean trades but last year’s vets who performed like crap.

Did the Dodgers tweak their rotation so Kershaw pitches both series this month? The Giants weren’t supposed to see him until 2012, but they gave him an extra day rest last week and now they’ll see him twice.

BandwagonMan says: September 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm 46..Kuiper calling out Belt this morning for that 7th inning fiasco on KNBR was down-right criminal. When has he ever called out Huff? What does that guy have on everybody that they are all protecting him?

Back from airport.

I heard the entire interview. Kuiper NEVER said that. What he said was he would NOT have had him bunt either. Krukow at 830 was even more complimentry towards Belt not being asked to Bunt saying that he had never been asked to bunt in College or at any level in MiLB.

I also listened to the entire interview as I drove up 680 this morning. The only individual he identified in the entire weekend’s debacle was Mr Belt, and his performance (or lack thereof) in the 7th inning. No one else! Not that piece of crap Huff, not Cabrera, nobody else.

In fact when Murph and Mac pointed out that Huff was asked to bunt he pulled the veteran angle.

I reiterate, the Giants organization, including the GM, the manager, the broadcasters, and their enablers at KNBR continually try to pull the wool over our eyes about their brutal handling of the players this year.

Sabean’s excuse during the Bonds years was that Barry doesn’t want to waste time rebuilding so we need to get rehashed veterans. There is no such excuse now.

As much as it pains me to do so I need to side with ClutchUp on this one. Kuipers point was that as a big leaguer, Belt should be able to handle the bat well enough to at least get the ball to the right side and maybe get enough on it for it to even be a hit.

I agree with you that a major leaguer should be able to get a ball to the right side when needed, most of the time. But that is NOT the point.

The point, my friend, is that piece of garbage Huff has FAILED to do precisely that ALL season long. But somehow these guys don’t seem to acknowledge that little tid-bit. That’s my point, that’s why it was upsetting to hear that garbage this morning. I wish Murph or Mac would have had enough stones to say something, but they didn’t. I guess someone sent them the memo.

Band…I was sorta surprised to hear kuip say belt should have apologized to vogelsong for the loss…I have never heard them say any other hitter who didn’t do well at the plate in a key play should have apologized to the pitcher. Why don’t the veterans have to be able to get the ball to the right side? How many at bats does the kid have compared to the vets this year who have just choked?

Hell with the Weeks stuff the A’s won’t do that– but if they’d take Zito’s contract let em have the SouthBay. That’s a brilliant idea by the way.
Take that contract and all is forgiven should be the Giants motto.

my point is that it’s bochy who is to blame, on a team hitting .160 w/ risp, runner on 2cnd…you bunt, PERIOD, this isn’t an even average team in ANY offensive catagory…when you have a chance to put a runner on 3rd w/ 1 out, with an offense like this, you do it…bochy was, is to blame, not anyone in the lineup. and kuip was wrong to blame anyone else

I disagree that Belt should have been bunting. I think we want him to be an RBI guy, he has power, he has zero experience bunting, we want him to drive the run in there. And maybe himself too. Beltran had an AB today with a runner at 2nd and nobody out, he swung away. Only reason it’s not an issue – he got a hit and an RBI. If he had popped up, we would probably be talking about how Beltran should have been bunting. You can’t let the results dictate what “should” have been done. The right decision was made, just got the wrong result that’s all.

But I absolutely agree that Belt did not need to apologize to anyone. It can’t always work out for the best.

Yeah, Giants don’t need a guy like Beltran who’s hitting .320 since he was acquired, 3 more RBIs tonight too. Nah, Giants are just fine sticking Ross, Torres, or Rowand in RF all of which are hitting a light .225.

Resign this man in the offseason please just not for $20M per year for 5 year. Sign him for 3 years $40M.

Someone who likes being 6 back instead of 6 up (had Bochy’s hand been forced to play some youth instead of the All-Vet-August) has intelligence issues, and lacks the courage to use their consistent avatar name when trying to belittle others.

I agree that Kuiper basically ragged on Belt this morning on KNBR — he didn’t get the ball hit over to the right side to move the runner to third. Ok, fine, he didn’t. But, where has that ripping been all season on specific vets doing the exact same thing or worse game after game? I don’t get the Giants organization-wide ripping of Belt — they should be doing everything to support this guy to get him comfortable and confident. Anybody that hits a massive oppo HR like Belt did in Miami needs a lot of rope to prove himself, there is a huge upside there….

panda
i’m not trying to pick a fight here but, don’t you think the reason belt went to the plate thinking bunt is because he understood the season was on the line…game 7 of the world serries time…1 run lead…vogey cruising…the best bullpin in baseball, and a chance to get a guy to 3rd and 1 out…nah , let the rook swing away.

Funny how now all of a sudden Kuiper is calling out players as accountable. All he had to do was look at his first baseman from the beginning of the season. You’ll have to agree that Mr Huff has certainly given him enough opportunities to be called out, no?

When Bochy says he’s putting the best club out there to win today, and it includes a 31 year old never-was-career-minor-leaguer and Pill, a guy without a MLB at bat, what can that possibly mean? Answer: nuttin’. Pill gets an HR, and Christian does squat. They win. I say keep it going with the non-names, it’s no worse than the regular lineup of useless vets…

i’d just like to say, i’m not an advocate of the bunt as a main offensive weapon with most teams. for me, it’s simply the last resort this team had, and they failed to even try it…historically bad offense, with one of the deepest pitching staffs of all time, they should have tried every thing, or at least something, bring up the kids…although i doubt they would have fared any better offensively, at least the defense would have been much improved. i blame bochy and i guess sabean for allowing or doing nothing. they just sat around and waited…mostly i blame bochy though.

Not a big fan of Kuiper. I’ll never forget his Cheshire grin when Bowtie came up to the booth to present him his World Series Ring. Kuiper acted like he was surprised to get a ring. Cmon man. Not buying it. Totally fake, your lawyer would have been slapping a lawsuit on the Giants next day if you didn’t get ‘your’ ring. Then he hams it up showing thatm asive hardware to the camera.

Plus he pretends he was a good player in the major leagues. Please Kuiper ranked in the bottom 5 all time in HRs per at bat. He hit 1 in like 3000 ABs. Pathetic.

Him calling out Belt is ridiculous. Kuiper and Krukow have been making excuses all season too for Huff, Ross, Torres, Whiteside, Rowand, Tehaha etc – all the totally underachieving ‘vets’ who cost us a division title this year.

Tom Brady told a story about his first game, after Bledsoe got hurt. Right before he went in, the coach was telling him “now protect the ball rookie, don’t make any mistakes, blah blah”. I’m paraphrasing. Bledsoe said to him, “f*ck that, go out there and sling it kid.”

When Mays first came up, he went 0-24 or something. His manager told him to relax, he’ll get plenty of hits, and he was the center fielder.

To me, that’s the vote of confidence you give a rookie, that’s the shot in the arm they need. You don’t say, “hey, it’s a tough situation, you better bunt.’ I say f*ck that, go up there and swing it kid.

Dinero, my bad on Christian. I thought he went 0-4, I missed the dbl. I’ll take 1-4 from anybody on this squad. As I said even thinking he went 0-4, play him. Since he went 1-4, hell. play him for a week…

@ JustGuessing
What do Lincecum and Cain really think of the personnel decisions?

4 guesses—
1) These ‘hitters’ absolutely stink.
2) I could no hit my own team every other start.
3) Just great, these guys can’t hit at all and now they can’t field either!
4) Did Rowand just take a literal dump in the box? I thought he pinched one off in the locker room beforte the game – lol.

I don’t think Bochy knows how to encourage or develop young hitters. It just doesn’t fit his “even keel” / “let things happen” personality. It’s like rookies are babies, and he is the guy that can only be in a room with one if it is sleeping.

@ Cow – well he did let Belt swing away in an RBI situation with no outs. A decision I agree with. Although I also agree that he coddles the rookies too much, and has far too unrealistic expectations of what they can and should be able to do. If Mays had started 0-24 with Bochy, something tells me he would have been on the bench for some old codger.

Kuiper said if the fans want Belt playing then the fans should also expect him to play like a big leaguer and advances the runner but it is not easy; it is a two way street.

There is nothing wrong with what he said. The fans should expect Belt to do whatever it takes to move Torres to 3rd, not pop-up the first pitch( I think). Belt has a way to go against MLB pitchers and I hope the way is short, else he is good as gone in Sabean’s eye.

The Giants just won a series. They gained a game on AZ. They called up — AND PLAYED — a kid that everyone on this board has been screaming for, and who hit a 2-run HR. They gained a game on AZ. A young pitcher just won his first major league game. They scored 6 runs tonight. They gained a game on AZ. In spite of the tense 9th inning, it was a fun game to watch. Good background story on Justin Christian, and he could really put some life into this team. AND THEY WON THE GAME AND GAINED A GAME ON AZ.

Is it too much to ask that some of you STOP PICKING ON EACH OTHER AND ACT LIKE GROWNUPS INSTEAD OF ACTING LIKE JERKS JUST BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER SEE EACH OTHER IN PERSON??? Just make these last few weeks enjoyable for everyone instead of beating the dead horses you’ve beaten all season????

At this point, Bochy has thrown his arms up in the air and plays the rookies because his Ro and Tejada got axed. His hand has been forced, just as it was when Bengie was moved last year.

Seeing the way the dug out erupted over Pill’s HR only reinforced my belief that sending both Crawford and Belt down for August was tipping point for the season. It was like sending a puppy back to the breeders after the kids have fallen in love with it. The joy left the club house, and the roster was not talented enough to get by on skill alone as a bunch of individuals, instead of family.

So now that Cabrera got the rbi tonight I’m guessing that buys him another weeks worth of starts at SS. I’m done with the Cabrera and Whiteside show! Did anyone notice how the Astros won the season series for the G-Men? With a group of “no names”, or what I like to call….youth.

Hey, the Dbacks bullpen fell apart the last two games. Gibson is shown to be quite talkative in the dugout; he is mad I think. Maybe the Giants still have a chance if they keep winning. My hope is the Giants goes 19-6 and let the chips fall.

If it were me managing, he’d feel fine. I would have sent him out there to drive in the run, and when he didn’t, I would have told him not to worry about it, he’s going to drive in plenty of runs. Not sure how he feels about however Bochy handled it.

Positive vibe…together, we won another game…together, they can pull together and keep playing good ball…I am in for the duration…like all of u…we are obsessed and it feels great to win tonight! Yippee!

Its a day game after a night game and you have to rest guys. And Aubrey told me after the second inning his back is feeling a whole lot better. If I needed a pinch hitter tonight. That Huff guy is a team player.

Dont get me wrong the kid did great running into one. But Aubrey is in there tomorrow.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Surkamp gives a “solid” performance. Maybe gives up one HR to Hundley or Denorfia when they “guess right” on a breaking pitch or location mistake. Surkamp and Stewart will need to keep any running game down, so his move to 1st may be used a bit.

I’d want to see a realistic 2 runs in 7 innings. And I feel fairly confident he can deliver that. He seems fairly unflappable and good location control…
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Hundley HR.
what kind of effort was that by Keppinger on the pick-off at 2nd base?
Nice to see Surkamp threw his curveball in 2-1 or 3-1 counts.

Nice to see Christian didn’t look over matched at the plate in any of his AB’s. Great double- and scored too. I wonder about a few of his routes in CF… Maybe the large MLB park outfield dimensions will take a game or two to adjust?

Pill definitely will get his swings in, just as he has said as much in interviews already. Glad the ball came back on the field so he can keep it. Also squared a few up pretty nicely.

“…even if it means eating nearly all the $46 million still owed to him.” refering to Zito.

You know Baggs, I really enjoy your forum, bought your book and enjoyed the win tonight and loved that Pill is in the Giant’s records with Will Clark. And am I ever clueless about the nature of baseball today that the Giants might eat $46mil. No – I don’t want Zito to continue on this team. But wow…$46 million. Do we get at all how much money that is?? I can barely afford to get to a game a year from the North Bay – Thank God for the great broadcasting staff! – and my team may kiss $46 million away with Zito. Amazing. Let him go. And the money. Just…wow…

Kid got lucky and ran into one. should I ride his 5-50 streak out also.

besides those 50 more at bats Aubrey reaches another incintive in his contract and told me he would take me fishing and buy me a new pole. Now if whats his name can come up with a better deal he may start. What is that kids name anyway I damned all ready forgot. Well Aubrey is at first tomorrow. Thats the only name I need to know. New pole Baby!

I couldn’t agree more about getting Crawford in there as a defensive replacement. I don’t get Bochy’s love for poor defense from Cabrera and even Whiteside. Neither of them should start…again! No more Cabrera.

That $46 million is already guaranteed to reach Zito’s pockets. Weird how MLB contracts work compared to some other pro sports. Yeah.

So, what do we want from him?

Fill or roster spot?

Or not?

huh.

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I’ll still argue that IF… “IF”…

We get the BATS we respectfully need to get to support our pitching staff.
The kind of pro bats that will keep Cain and Lincecum happy to stay here…

That same offensive lineup could actually help Zito win 10-12 games a season as our 5th starter. Seriously.

MLB league average is 4 runs/game.

If we get to about 4.6 runs/game… Zito likely would win at least 10 games CONSISTENTLY.

This ain’t “All About Zito”.
This ain’t all about radar guns.

Get great offensive players, a side effect will be Zito may be competitive in his starts if he’s staying.

Before you angrily disagree w/ me, think about it.
How’d he pitch in the Cub’s double-header game when he took the hill in the 1st w/ a 6-run lead already? He started last season with 6 or 7 solid wins. Being a year older next season ain’t exactly gonna take MPH’s off his fastball.

Money goes in his pockets anyways.
I’m just sayin’…

Get those pro bats here PRONTO!
(maybe Pill is one of ’em, maybe Belt is…)

No Boch, you are the one that does not understand percentages. Look at Whiteside’s batting average and that should have been obvious that Whitside would not get the job done. And you’re banking on a 1-0 shutout against a first place team in the bottom of the seventh? One word for you Boch – delusional.

E. Normas Johnson says:September 6th, 2011 at 9:04 pmBandwagonMan,
As much as it pains me to do so I need to side with ClutchUp on this one.
Kuipers point was that as a big leaguer, Belt should be able to handle the bat well enough to at least get the ball to the right side and maybe get enough on it for it to even be a hit.

r-o-b-e-r-t – yeah, I’m not fired up. Hope i didn’t come off that way. Good stuff.

Man I don’t know about the lineup tomorrow, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Huff and Torres and Cabrera in there though. I sure would love to see Craw and Belt get the nod, but at the same time I’d like to see more of Christian. Then there’s Ross, he’s been smoking the ball. Tough to get everyone in there.

The point is NOT whether Belt should have or should not have bunted. That is a different question.

The point IS that Kippers calls Belt out on this one at-bat, when his veterans have failed countless times this year in equally crucial situations and yet he has NEVER called out any of them. Have you ever heard Kippers call out Huff – a so-called big time veteran – for his failures this year?

Watching Wilson have an ulcer anxiety attack watching Lopez-Casilla and Ramirez pitch in the B9th made me want to be able to pick up a phone and call him and say “Willie”…that’s what you’ve done to us on more than one occasion.
🙂

Let the other 6 batters help create offense.
And heck, Crawford can run into ’em once in a while. Good eye, takes some walks, some clutch hits, some power.
Stewart can bunt with the best of ’em and has a couple clutch hits.

@ ClutchUp:
Was sitting in a bar chillin’ watching a TV from a bit far away.
Looked like the ball was coming down, hit maybe 8 feet UP the wall (or fence there?).

Awkward-looking because Beltran is so non-chalant in most of his defensive play that he didn’t SPRINT to get there, he trotted over, and wasn’t really “set” to play the carom. Feet, hips, shoulders still squaring as he was receiving the ball… NOT GOOD fundamentals.

Didn’t hit cut-off. Not good fundamentals.

Trots towards first instead of running hard. Drives me nuts. At least one triple at AT & T this year could’ve been an inside-the-parker I’m fairly sure.

Bochy says:September 7th, 2011 at 12:01 amBall hit about 15 feet up the wall. He positioned himself like he had been making the play in that park all his life. spectacualr they had no chance at runner but came awefull damned close.Now that Calos that was a Veteran Move for sure. And I will buy around on that one.Ye Hah!

BandwagonMan says:September 6th, 2011 at 11:24 pmClutchUp & Normas Johnson -I hate to say this, gentlemen, but you are still missing the point.
The point is NOT whether Belt should have or should not have bunted. That is a different question.The point IS that Kippers calls Belt out on this one at-bat, when his veterans have failed countless times this year in equally crucial situations and yet he has NEVER called out any of them. Have you ever heard Kippers call out Huff – a so-called big time veteran – for his failures this year?

OK, how’s this Kuiper and Krukow really don’t count in the eyes of the players. KNBR and them have a lucrative contract that Krukow almost had Larry Baer break last week because on Murph and Mack they completely took something out of context last week that Krukow had said. Things have been testy for awhile Kruk and Kuip on that morning show. They all kissed and made up but now they all just tolerate each other. Brian Murphy is like my 88 year old aunt. If the sky is blue she/Murphy wonders out loud why the sky is not a different color. He and his boy friend + Patrick Connors + Kate Scott are close to being un-listenable.

Back to they don’t count (although I know what YOU meant in your original post and now this one)…As long as a fellow teammate doesn’t – did not call Belt out, then its all good. IMO Kuiper and Krukow have crossed the line MANY times by “acting like” they speak on behalf of the clubhouse and that’s pretty much BS IMO.

dsfYour right those damned gold glove are worthless.Nat is still a scrub and is not playing right field as long as Beltran is here.JA’S! yeah your included ClutchUp

TitoMac: What does JA’S mean????

Tito is like that errr….”challenged” Giant fan named Billy that has made friends with the Giants players and they sometimes take up a collection so he can take the bus to LA when they play the Dodgers….

I said you need to buy a couple of more rounds while i think of something the more the nicer and more friendlier I get.

They all ready know they are retired dont they. At the end of the year. I heard they are going to go with some young Ex Giants Nate Schierholtz and Kevin Frandsens Names have been bandied about I told them that is fine anythings an improvement.

Bochy says:September 7th, 2011 at 12:32 amKrukow and Kuiper are history.They told me to say something nice for there retirement party.
I said you need to buy a couple of more rounds while i think of something the more the nicer and more friendlier I get.They all ready know they are retired dont they. At the end of the year. I heard they are going to go with some young Ex Giants Nate Schierholtz and Kevin Frandsens Names have been bandied about I told them that is fine anythings an improvement.

TitoMac drinking JoBu’s rum.

Although “some” here would be happy. Kuiper and Krukow just recently signed a long term, lucrative contract with the Giants and an equal one with KNBR. In fact KNBR’s Lee Hammer had a promo that said Kruk and Kuip = 365 days a year – minus holidays a days off.

“Kruk and Kuip told me”….what are you the handicapped attendant in the players lot elevator….

Frandsen’s out of baseball. Nate off the DL today Wed. Nate the RFielder at AT&T in 2012…

Stewart is not only arguably the best defensive catcher in baseball, but his hitting is not as bad as it looks. His BB% and K% is identical, which is a VERY good thing. He’s actually a great example of a BABIP casualty. Good eye, good contact. I pray he will be the back up next year and Whiteside is just gooooone.

Giants should get younger. Too many washed up vets. As for Zito, you have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know his fate. Anywhere else but not as a Giant. One of the Giants biggest mistakes. And I thought Peter McGowen was a sharp guy. He should have seen this mistake a mile off when his advisors proposed it. The A’s knew the true story.

Woj, you are a truly awesome idiot. I was and still am against the Beltran trade, but that doesn’t mean I hate him. In fact, I’ve never seen one person express hatred for him.
The trade was still a bad one, as even with Beltran’s small streak of good batting lately, he hasn’t nearly been worth Zack Wheeler’s entire future career nor will he be in the short time remaining.
On the positive side, it’s good to see the not-so-young youngsters playing and doing well, even though one game or two doesn’t mean much.
If only they had been given a chance earlier, the season might have been salvaged.

‘Sabean and Bochy have to secretly be hating the success these young guys are having as it shows just how flawed their mindset has been’?? You talking about the same ‘mindset’ that out managed everybody in the playoffs and WS last year??

Mays went 0-for-12, hit a jack, then went 0-for-13. So in his first 26 at bats, he had a batting average of .038, but we all know how it ended up. Belt needs to see more breaking balls and learn how to hit them. Like the kid’s glove already