They're nicer than I expected. Nice color, fabric is pretty beefy, slim-straight fit, and I like the button fly. I don't have any experience with the rigid variety, but I'm almost totally certain that these are not they. Definitely not selvage.

It may be a toss-up between these and the WvG predator chinos I picked up a couple of months ago.

Just got two pair of 30" waist and they have a 32" inseam as well so everyone knows

Just got a pair of the slim fit faded in the mail, despite being advertised as left hand twill it is right hand. I don't know what's going on with rrl lately, but they need to do some serious work on the accuracy of the descriptions.

I bought this same jacket on eBay about 9 months ago and paid $180. It's awesome, but it is vintage so the cut is kind of old school. Does anybody know if it's really from 1990? If so, that's really cool, I didn't realize it was that old.