/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.

Depends on the chemical.

Nicotine dust and tobacco derivatives aren't approved for organic use, but I still see people saying "Go get some organic smokes, soak them in water, and use the resulting nicotine spray to kill pests". Nictonoids kill everything. Nasty stuff, so nasty we came up with neonictonoids as a safer to human alternative.

Rotenone can be organically sourced. Kills fish very very dead with very little, might be linked to Parkinson's.

/bet these same idiots think that there "organic" fud is pesticide free. ROFLMFAO. No assholes, they just use organic pesticides. Much more deadly than manmade. HAHAHAH//wait, this could be a good thing. Esp if they die out quicker from all their "organic" poisons.

That's what most supermarket products should be called. "Fud" instead of "Food".

Here's how far you can bend those words. Here is a man in the midst of a field of something that is natural and organic.

Natural: check. The crude oil has not undergone extensive processing since being harvested.Organic: check. In the field of chemistry, organic simply means that it is chemistry dealing with complex carbon-based molecules. Plenty of those in there.So get to work, mister bucket-man! Our sales guys have got the bottles lined up for you to fill so we can ship it off to the hippie stores!

Do you think that you just squeeze corn and syrup comes out? It's highly processed. High fructose corn syrup is basically corn that's been group up and partially digested.

It also seems to involve processing with chemicals and enzymes that mere civilians can't easily purchase.

Fun fact: You can make corn syrup in your mouth. As a fun experiment reach into your cupboard and pull out a bag of corn starch. Take a small spoonful and put it in your mouth. After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet. You make corn syrup in a plant in the same way, just on a bigger scale.

ginandbacon:I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.

Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.

FTFA: When consumers see the word on meat or poultry, 70% think it means no growth hormones were used in the animals feed and 60% think the animals got no antibiotics or other drugs in their feed.The problem is, consumers are wrong.Under federal labeling rules, the word natural means absolutely nothing.

That's a problem that should be addressed, unfortunately the corporate ag lobby has fought against measures that allowed consumers to be educated about what they're buying. For example, Monsanto fought to overturn a law that allowed for milk taken from cows given growth hormones to be labeled as such.

There should be a label for meat and dairy that requires said meat and dairy to have not been treated with antibiotics or various hormones. Additional labeling to show grass fed and/or free range production would also be useful.

If you want to be pedantic yes, everything is 'natural' and all food is 'organic' but the terms don't have to be defined by the pedants on food labels. Ice cream made with vanilla flavoring derived from combing numerous chemicals (all of natural origin) to produce a vanilla flavor may be technically natural, but it isn't the same as ice cream made with actual vanilla beans to provide that flavor.

Yes, we can all read the labels, but it would be nice to have an enforceable logo on products that would mean no ingredients were created in a lab.

Organic actually has absolutely nothing to do with carbon when it comes to food labeling. But yes, natural literally means nothing on food: it's a marketing ploy.

Organic and USDA Organic are very different; the legal definition is very different from what many people expect. Just because someone does the leg work to become USDA Organic doesn't mean they aren't still evil mono-culture farmers.

There ARE some very good organic farmers out there---a few live just a few miles from where I live, and I can actually go and see how they take care of their farms. Not all organic farmers load up their farms with approved pesticides and insecticide---crop rotation, the presence of animals, and non-monoculture farms (ones that grow flowers, etc) reduce or eliminate the need for many of those sprays.

Luckily, despite Florida being well, Florida, we actually have some very good organic growers out here. Some of them don't bother applying for the USDA Organic label either---their customers know their food is good, because in some cases, their customers work the farms for shares of the yield.

/member of at least two farms to source healthy, local food without the use of nasty pesticides or bizarre fertilizers//one farm sells elephant tea...made from elephant poop...for your plants

RogermcAllen:After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet.

I was actually taught to do this with certain grains for breads.

cryinoutloud:ginandbacon: I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.

Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.

SHUT UP! I just had the most intense sense memory of my mam and my tia Carmen coming back from market every Saturday with canes for us kids to gnaw on while they smoked and drank coffee and gossiped. Oh man was that the life!

ginandbacon:RogermcAllen: After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet.

I was actually taught to do this with certain grains for breads.

cryinoutloud: ginandbacon: I'm curious how you think sugar is produced. Or even honey for that matter, speaking of vomit.

Sugar is grown in sugar canes and it's pretty pure the way it is. You just dump it out, like a pixie stick. It used to be sold in the original packaging (it looks like bamboo), but then people decided that those weren't Pure enough or something, so now we buy it in bags.

I can remember my mom buying it in 4-foot canes, enough to last us for a while. Then they invented candy canes, but those suck compared to the real thing.

SHUT UP! I just had the most intense sense memory of my mam and my tia Carmen coming back from market every Saturday with canes for us kids to gnaw on while they smoked and drank coffee and gossiped. Oh man was that the life!

I was picking up dinner at my favorite Cuban place a few weeks ago and I noticed they had a new machine behind the counter. I asked about it, and apparently it's designed to process sugar cane stalks into a sugar cane drink. I decided to try a glass, and they just fed several stalks through, which were rolled and squeezed until the cane juice came out of the bottom, so basically it's a sugar cane juicer.

The actual cane juice was... different. Not bad, but not something I'm likely to go for again. I much prefer the malta drink.

yesYes I know.Salt is a mineral.But it isnt food. (or FUD)I guess you could rationally argue that FOOD has calories.Essential vitamins and minerals are things that we typically get while eating the food.

You can live a long time on ... just eating potatoes. (strange, you can get 100% of your essential amino acids from potatoes. wtf)If you just eat salt, you would be dead by the end of the day.

RogermcAllen:Fun fact: You can make corn syrup in your mouth. As a fun experiment reach into your cupboard and pull out a bag of corn starch. Take a small spoonful and put it in your mouth. After a while amylase (an enzyme) in your saliva will start to break the starch down into dextrose (corn sugar) and you will start to taste sweet. You make corn syrup in a plant in the same way, just on a bigger scale.

Cool... next time I want to sweeten a beverage I'll just put some corn starch in my mouth and wait instead,