haha, And i did said that nicely, no harm intended. But honestly, navigator controls and Ztr controls are completely different machines. I may be crazy but I think you guys have the air pressure in the tires backwards. Less pressure will create more traction than high pressure. People who rock crawl or mud their vehicles always air down the tires when they get on the trail for better traction. It makes sense from a Physics stand point, so try the opposite.Posted via Mobile Device