The Mighty Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Drives In [40K Kms Crossed]

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Explains about the adaptability of the MB tranny....

Sirji - Above is about the 7G tronic and 9G tronic gearbox - much much more modern.

In Pajero Sport , we are talking INVECS II which is like a dinosaur compared to these systems, same is true for Rexton - if i remember my TD right it has the ageing 5G- Tronic. So for these old AT gearboxes, learn-ability aspects (apart from the way the manufacturers market it) - still searching for real world data.

Both these vehicles are old school. And i dont see that as a negative.
Simple old school mechanical reliability and as least electronics as possible is good in my books as far as the purpose of the vehicle goes.

Sirji - Above is about the 7G tronic and 9G tronic gearbox - much much more modern.

In Pajero Sport , we are talking INVECS II which is like a dinosaur compared to these systems, same is true for Rexton - if i remember my TD right it has the ageing 5G- Tronic. So for these old AT gearboxes, learn-ability aspects (apart from the way the manufacturers market it) - still searching for real world data.

Both these vehicles are old school. And i dont see that as a negative.
Simple old school mechanical reliability and as least electronics as possible is good in my books as far as the purpose of the vehicle goes.

The old triptronic 722.7 used in Rexton is the learning type and it has been used in their V12 as well to accommodate 580lb of torque which this tranny is capable of unlik the 7Gtronic.

Iron Rock, is it not the case that the Fortuner does not have a 2H mode, which the Pajero Sport has, which makes the Pajero Sport much more suited for casual flat terrain driving, compared to fortuner which has a full time 4x4?

Secondly, what is the recommended tyre pressure front and rear on the Pajero and the Fortuner? I will most likely be having TD of manual of Pajero and Fortuner back to back on a Sunday soon (not tomorrow, obviously). Just want to make sure that I dont have some wool pulled over my eyes to smoothen out ride quality etc. I have a pressure guage, just to be sure.

Iron Rock, is it not the case that the Fortuner does not have a 2H mode, which the Pajero Sport has, which makes the Pajero Sport much more suited for casual flat terrain driving, compared to fortuner which has a full time 4x4?

Yes, you are right. A part time 4WD also helps in lesser wear and tear of the transfer case and the front differential and better fuel economy.

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Secondly, what is the recommended tyre pressure front and rear on the Pajero and the Fortuner? I will most likely be having TD of manual of Pajero and Fortuner back to back on a Sunday soon (not tomorrow, obviously). Just want to make sure that I dont have some wool pulled over my eyes to smoothen out ride quality etc. I have a pressure guage, just to be sure.

The recommended tire pressure for the Fortuner should be 30PSI all round. Even if they try to reduce the tire pressure, you will still be able to make out the very apparent difference in the ride quality of both the vehicles within half a km of driving them.

Iron Rock, is it not the case that the Fortuner does not have a 2H mode, which the Pajero Sport has, which makes the Pajero Sport much more suited for casual flat terrain driving, compared to fortuner which has a full time 4x4?

The 4WD unit of PS and Fortuner have a different set up, PS is VCU while fortuner is mechanical. Since Fortuner is full time 4WD - its also built that way - theoretically it will sip more fuel than the PS, PS can be trundled in 2WD mode, Fortuner cannot be.

Practically everything in a car including the owner will wear with time - FE and Service/Maintenance costs depends on the owner and how he drives and takes care of the vehicle.Having said Toyota does have cheaper parts and service ease currently than Mitsubishi.

Maintained well, both vehicles will outlast its owner. As far as reliability and legend goes, its as good as it gets.

I have 3D mats on Chetak but they are not made by Kagu. While their fit is okay, the surface is rough and the luxe feel is lost. I m thinking of putting 3M mats as a simpler solution. What I would love are simple rubber mats but they are not available.

I have 3D mats on Chetak but they are not made by Kagu. While their fit is okay, the surface is rough and the luxe feel is lost. I m thinking of putting 3M mats as a simpler solution. What I would love are simple rubber mats but they are not available.

I am coming from the opposite direction - i have noodle mats custom cut - not the expensive 3m ones. But no matter what i do including even sticking velcro for it to be snug - the front ones doesnt remain snug with time - the rear is fine. So i am fed up and exploring the 3d mats route.

In 2 minds though, the original black ones fit snug and come with locking but get dirty very soon.

I am coming from the opposite direction - i have noodle mats custom cut - not the expensive 3m ones. But no matter what i do including even sticking velcro for it to be snug - the front ones doesnt remain snug with time - the rear is fine. So i am fed up and exploring the 3d mats route.

In 2 minds though, the original black ones fit snug and come with locking but get dirty very soon.

The noodle mats must be similar to the 3M mats right? If 3M mats do not come with velocro and are also custom cut to fit, how come they do not slide around?

The noodle mats must be similar to the 3M mats right? If 3M mats do not come with velocro and are also custom cut to fit, how come they do not slide around?

The Kagu mats should also fit snugly.

My noodle mats, I deployed, are thicker than the ones i have seen at a 3M store - 3M is made of an altogether different/better material but all depends on the grip on the bottom side, i stuck velcro using fevi quik - but the bottom surface simply does not hold for long in my case - i dont know about 3M one, also the front half is sloping and that is the problem as it tends to slide and get wrinkly. I think eventually it will slide and thats my problem with mats. Hence want to go the the Kagu route. The second row however as its flat doesnt move at all and is snugly fit - my problem is first row.

I want to drive a Pejaro but marketing team wants to drive you out :).

I had a discussion with one of the HM marketing people about some kind of discount as I want to buy a Pajero (second in the span of two months). The reply was very curt " We HM don't offer any discounts for any one. as a special case, we are giving 30K (+dealer offered 30K already). So far, we never offered any discounts to any one. This is offer is valid only for AT. Manual no discount".

I told him as a loyal customer, I deserve some kind of discount on even MT. Reply was sharp and crisp " No discounts on MT. AT also, you should take delivery in next two days to get the discount. Since you are not in India, make full payment and ask your friend to take the delivery. You better call our regional dealer management team and close the deal". :)

The discussion was very annoying . No respect for customer and they were talking like doing some charity. I am not sure, why I should call their people and close the deal. I haven't seen any other manufacturer talking like this.

I am afraid, if this is the kind of treatment to a buyer, what in case of a problem. They just don't care the customer.

There is only one reason to buy Pajero - it's reliability and multiple reasons for not buying include " arrogant HM team, don't care for customer attitude, sparse dealership network and expensive spares etc..".

Not sure, buying again Pajero would be a right decision given the attitude of HM people. Spending 30 Lacs on a very reliable car with no support (it's just like buying an Iphone in Grey market with no warranty).

Do the MH guys seriously not want any sales. What is wrong with them.
Discounts are what sometimes tilt the sale between two competitive vehicles.
They must realise that the customer is willing to buy a Pajero despite knowing all the after sales trouble he may get. That shows that the customer is a brand loyalist who must be pampered and sweet talked rather than driven to the competition.

How about having rings put in the 3M mats and trying to fix them like the originals? They might hold.

Well It might hold at one side - but you really need it on the pedal side as well as they are heavier than conventional mats, they will slip and wrinkle - thats my problem with them. 3M might be slightly lighter but still i am not fully convinced it will hold on its own unless its strapped on the pedal side as well someway. Early days are always good, with time they suffer - thats what happened in my case.

@ Soorya/ Karthik - My view is a prerogative of a discount always depends on the dealer/ manufacturer, they cannot be judged good or bad if they give or dont give discounts - what however matters more is the attitude they show to a customer - if i were a smart dealer - even if i give no discounts i would always make it sound polite with a customer, customer deserves respect - that's the number one rule in customer satisfaction. There is a way to say no as well, never arm twist a customer though - i guess that where HM/ Dealers falter.