Jason Grey of ESPN.com was on hand for Brandon Webb‘s extended spring training start yesterday and filed a report that suggests the former Cy Young winner is still nowhere near full strength more than two years after shoulder problems first surfaced.

Webb threw two scoreless innings against the Mariners’ extended spring squad, but Grey notes that his highest velocity on 12 fastballs thrown was 84 miles per hour. According to Grey (and the Rangers, who confirmed the radar readings) he threw one at 84, one at 82, and “the rest 78-81.”

Webb told Grey afterward that he thought the outing went “better than expected,” but throwing in the low-80s after numerous setbacks paints an awfully pessimistic picture for his chances of contributing positively to the Rangers this season. Even before the injury his velocity wasn’t overpowering, as he averaged 87-89 miles per hour, but it’s a long way from 78-81 to 88-90 and Webb seemingly isn’t making any progress.