The discussion was about Sanders comments about outgoing National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster’s criticism of America’s response to Russia’s election meddling.

Host Joe Scarborough said, “Here we have one more example Katty Kay of Sarah Huckabee Sanders lying. We’ve been talking about what the president’s been doing over the past week he has not been skirting issues. He’s been lying outright about Amazon, he’s been lying about the Washington Post, he’s been lying about Russia, he’s lying about McMaster. Now you have, of course, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, two lies there. One McMaster never said that no one’s been tougher on Russia than Donald Trump. That is a lie. Full stop. Sarah Huckabee Sanders lied yesterday again. That’s a lie. She also lied when she said that, when she denied that McMaster said the quote was we have failed to hit them enough.’ And again, she lied about that, as well.”

Kay added, “Donald Trump has always had this ability to make facts or situations into his reality. Whether they are true or not. He does it time and again. He takes black, and he makes it white. The question has always been, does he believe what he is saying or is he just trying to sell us on what he is saying? It’s interesting to see Sarah Huckabee Sanders picking up that habit. Picking up the habit of saying something that is clearly not the case as if it were actually true, and if it were actually fact. And you get the impression in the White House, at the moment, that the president is increasingly surrounding himself with people who are prepared to take that line — who are prepared to take Donald Trump’s view of the world even if what they are saying is not actually true.”