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Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by jeffbear

Smith had by far and away the best numbers of any keeper in our system last year. I mean, he wasn't technically in Carolina's system since he was on a short term AHL contract, but ... ugh. Our goalies sucked last year.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Granted the Canes could sign another goalie to a 2 way contract between now and the beginning of camp, but if the Canes do not sign another 2 way 1 year goalie then Neds is sitting as our undisputed #3 and the first in line to take over for either Darling or Mrazek. This AHL only signing leads me to believe we at this point might not bring in any 'sort of almost an NHL goalie' this time....ie Jeremy Smith or Drew McIntyre or Michael Leighton.

Barring injury or ineptitude or a signing or trade it would be Neds and Booth in Charlotte and Helvig in Florida. The question would be if that mix will allow all of them enough playing time. You don't want to have Booth not playing because Neds is dominating...you don't want Neds not making 55 to 60 starts if he deserves them just to get Booth some playing time. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out...still a lot of offseason to go to add another goalie to the mix and push Booth right back to Florida possibly. If Jamie Phillips gets a lot of playing time in Charlotte that is not good because he is barely an AHL goalie.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Well, I've said before that I think we need to be very careful with this next stage of Neds' development because we REALLY need that guy to at least be ready to back up at the NHL level soon. And if there's a way he becomes a decent starter in the next 2-3 years then that takes a TON of pressure off of the front office. Given that Neds has now managed almost 75 minor AHL starts and has started to show the ability to at least win games, if not dominate statistically, the logic next step is to let him go a full year as the real deal starter. Looks like they're setting that up. I really don't like the thing where they have one prospect and one vet in the AHL, because inevitably winning starts to out weigh development and the vet ends up playing .... and you end up not developing the prospect.

Bottom line ... developing the next goalie for the Canes is WAY more important than winning games in the AHL. It's time for this organization to get its priorities straight when it comes to player development. And if Neds gets to the halfway point and has shown he's not ready to be an AHL starter, then give Booth a shot before you go pushing the panic button.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Checkers sign dman Dennis Robertson to an AHL contract. He was on a 2 way deal with the Canes last year. Good business from the Checkers, keeping some key guys but signing them to AHL deals to help keep the Canes below 50 contracts. Capfriendly has the Canes at 44 contracts with only Lucas Wallmark to sign.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by jeffbear

Yup. From what I heard he was a real spark plug for the Checkers. The kind of guy you call up for a jolt of energy after a listless stretch.

If we need a bottom 6 center, I suspect he’d be the callup. His AHL salary underscores his importance to the Cherkers. Unless something dramatic happens, it looks like every forward from last year, except Zykov, will still be in Charlotte plus Smallman and Lorentz. Even though there is only 1 rookie (Geekie), it’s still a pretty young team.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by andyt

If we need a bottom 6 center, I suspect he’d be the callup. His AHL salary underscores his importance to the Cherkers. Unless something dramatic happens, it looks like every forward from last year, except Zykov, will still be in Charlotte plus Smallman and Lorentz. Even though there is only 1 rookie (Geekie), it’s still a pretty young team.

I think you have to also add the new Finn Metalaanen to Charlotte's forward ranks if the Canes plan on keeping PDG and Martinook with the big club. Just cannot see how the Finn makes the big club if Zykov, Necas and Svechnikov are all penciled in already.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by CanadaCanes

I think you have to also add the new Finn Metalaanen to Charlotte's forward ranks if the Canes plan on keeping PDG and Martinook with the big club. Just cannot see how the Finn makes the big club if Zykov, Necas and Svechnikov are all penciled in already.

FWIW, based on what Brindy has said there's a lot less "pencilling in" than we've seen in the past. That's all going to get sorted in camp. A lot of coaches say stuff like that, but when Brindy says it I believe for some reason.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by CanadaCanes

I think you have to also add the new Finn Metalaanen to Charlotte's forward ranks if the Canes plan on keeping PDG and Martinook with the big club. Just cannot see how the Finn makes the big club if Zykov, Necas and Svechnikov are all penciled in already.

It depends on how many forwards Brindy wants to carry and what, if anything, happens to Skinner. There are 10 forwards on NHL contracts. Add in Aho, Svechnikov and Necas and it’s 13.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

It depends on how many forwards Brindy wants to carry and what, if anything, happens to Skinner. There are 10 forwards on NHL contracts. Add in Aho, Svechnikov and Necas and it’s 13.

FWIW, they're currently showing 14 forwards on the team website, including Necas, Svechnikov, Maenalanen, Zykov, Martinook, Ferland and PDG along with the guys who finished last season on the roster. It's most likely they end up carrying 13, as you assume. Seems most likely that either Maenalanen or PDG would be the odd man out but again ... I think it'll take camp to sort it out.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by jeffbear

FWIW, they're currently showing 14 forwards on the team website, including Necas, Svechnikov, Maenalanen, Zykov, Martinook, Ferland and PDG along with the guys who finished last season on the roster. It's most likely they end up carrying 13, as you assume. Seems most likely that either Maenalanen or PDG would be the odd man out but again ... I think it'll take camp to sort it out.

It makes the decision to re-sign PDG that much more baffling. Maenalanen has a 2 way deal but scored more goals in the Finnish League last year than PDG has in his NHL career. Camp should be interesting though, lots of talent to sort through.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Canes re-sign Wallmark to a 2 year deal. It’s 2 way in 18-19 with $650k in the NHL, $70k in the AHL and a guarantee of $100k. It’s a 1 way deal in 19-20 with a salary of $700k. Everyone has been re-signed and they’re at 45 contracts.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by andyt

It makes the decision to re-sign PDG that much more baffling. Maenalanen has a 2 way deal but scored more goals in the Finnish League last year than PDG has in his NHL career. Camp should be interesting though, lots of talent to sort through.

PDG is a known quantity and I think this is probably his last bite at the apple as an NHLer. We were always waiting for him or McGinn to distinguish themselves and McGinn jumped well over him based on last season. But at least you know what PDG is going to give you, as opposed to Maenalanen. If the Finn jumps over him in camp, then you use PDG to provide some veteran presence in Charlotte and then call it a day on the guy in 2019.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by jeffbear

PDG is a known quantity and I think this is probably his last bite at the apple as an NHLer. We were always waiting for him or McGinn to distinguish themselves and McGinn jumped well over him based on last season. But at least you know what PDG is going to give you, as opposed to Maenalanen. If the Finn jumps over him in camp, then you use PDG to provide some veteran presence in Charlotte and then call it a day on the guy in 2019.

Interesting tidbit on Maenalanen is he led the tournament in goals at the 2014 World Junior Championships. Sounds like the guy has some offensive touch and some history playing with Turbo on the same 2014 Finland World Junior team that won Gold.

Re: 2017-18 Canes Prospect and Cherkers Thread

Originally Posted by CanadaCanes

Interesting tidbit on Maenalanen is he led the tournament in goals at the 2014 World Junior Championships. Sounds like the guy has some offensive touch and some history playing with Turbo on the same 2014 Finland World Junior team that won Gold.

Well ... I'm moderately more impressed with that than I am all those guys we fall in love with the Senior Worlds.