In other news, probably rather unsurprisingly, my PS4 was running hot last night playing Black Flag.

I've custom made shelves under a wall mounted TV and the narrow one I'd like to put the PS4 on (maximum Feng Shui) is not going to provide enough air flow, clearly. It's just shy of double the PS4's height, nearly double it's depth but has a closed back and sides and also a rather hot running TiVo box in there too. I never had a problem with the similarly sized PS3 slim in there, but the PS4 was running worryingly hot. Understandably, given the next gen hamsters in there, the friction their little wheels produce need next gen PS4 positioning I think.

@Zackv4891 I am not sure, people have said it's a bit random. I had a look at some videos it has randomly kept under the share button, and they were dated from yesterday, to two weeks ago! Some of them were 4 mins long, and one was 15 mins. The 15 minute one was of me installing Battlefield 4 on launch day! Playstation 4 seems to have a sense of humour!

I tell you something, I'm saving on my heating bills as the PS4 keeps my relatively small room pretty warm! I'm wondering whether having it vertical without the official stand makes any difference, compared with horizontal? I haven't enough room on my shelf for horizontal, well, without it hanging over the end.

TheDarkKnight wrote:
@Zackv4891 I am not sure, people have said it's a bit random. I had a look at some videos it has randomly kept under the share button, and they were dated from yesterday, to two weeks ago! Some of them were 4 mins long, and one was 15 mins. The 15 minute one was of me installing Battlefield 4 on launch day! Playstation 4 seems to have a sense of humour!

It doesn't work properly and it often records videos from way back. They need to fix it. If you keep recording regularly it works okay.

TheDarkKnight wrote:
I tell you something, I'm saving on my heating bills as the PS4 keeps my relatively small room pretty warm! I'm wondering whether having it vertical without the official stand makes any difference, compared with horizontal? I haven't enough room on my shelf for horizontal, well, without it hanging over the end.

The official vertical stand has vents around the base so I guess without one the unit might not be getting the airflow it expects. The again it could be purely aesthetic.

@FuzzyDuck I believe you have to be online for all of it. Every game gives you some of their shitty in-game currency for finishing, which you can use to improve your player or by him "clothes" (what is this, The Sims?). Now because everyone wanted micro-transactions this in-game amount has to be synced with their servers.

This means every transaction and upgrade is slow and clunky, and hence the always online.

That said. I can't put the game down. I will not buy any in-game money but it's fantastic to play.

Ooo. The official stand- overpriced for a bit of plastic, really- nevertheless definitely has a premium feel. It's all weighty and solid feeling and the locking mechanism is a really nice touch. Discounted a bit at Game stores (about £18) and online (about £16).

@FuzzyDuck It might be worth verifying that first. I'm going to try and play it now offline. It used to work fine, but I heard down the line they patched it so that if you lose your internet connection mid-game it'll just boot you back to the main menu.

Anyone else having problems signing into psn tonight? I signed in earlier, took a good 5 minutes but got in, now though I just get a please wait and the blue background constantly when trying to sign in. Checked the status and it's online bug can't figure out why I now have an issue :/

ignore this it's just signed me in after 30 minutes of trying just as I was about to give up and have an early night