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I see Ryanair have added some new routes into Exeter and Cardiff for next summer. It would be nice if we could get some new routes nailed on as well. I am curious as to what preferences forum members would have in this respect? I would like to see Madrid for starters.

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I see Ryanair have added some new routes into Exeter and Cardiff for next summer. It would be nice if we could get some new routes nailed on as well. I am curious as to what preferences forum members would have in this respect? I would like to see Madrid for starters.

Wether it's ture or not im not sure! But I did see a rumour posted on the LBA spotters Facebook page over weekend that Ryanair might be looking to putting 2x extra based aircraft into LBA.
Same poster also mentioned Vueling coming back along with a possiblity of Transavia and Norwegian. So I took it all with a big pinch of salt.

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Does anyone know - are all the routes already bookable operated by aircraft based abroad? It would make sense for routes operated by LBA based aircraft to only go on sale once Ryanair have confirmed their intentions for 2019 in terms of based aircraft.

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I have received my statutory notification from Ryanair that as a u.k. shareholder, my shares will be bought back on the 29th March, a spanish friend of mine has received identical communication, but as a european shareholder.
Whilst I can understand MOL resentment of brexit, whatever deal we do or not do, will in the end force MOL to come of the fence and decide, where he wants to make his bed.
Easyjet have gone for seperate european and u.k. companies, I assume Jet2 will withdraw spanish based aircraft and maintain a u.k. company, what will ryanair do?
Little sign of goodwill between the two parties today, with Juncker making it clear e.u. membership means in the future, the euro being your currancy (next treaty change) and our prime minister in the house of commons making it clear, not a single penny to europe after the 29th of March without a trade deal (house of lords legal advise).
Maybe a coincidence they both threw a fire cracker in to the fire today, not sure helpful.

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As far as I understand, if the is a No deal/ hard Brexit Jet2 would not have to withdraw its UK based registered aircraft from its Spanish bases at ALC & PMI because they only operate routes into the UK.
The only way Jet2 would have to withdraw UK registered aircraft from the 2 Spanish bases is if they decided to open up routes within Europe. eg ALC to AMS or PMI to DUS. The easiest way around that would be for Jet2 to apply for AOC from one of the 26+ remaining member countries like Spain.

As you say Easyjet have already sorted out an Austrian AOC to get around them problems, Whilst I'm sure Ryanair have applied to the UK's CAA for a AOC..

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As far as I understand, if the is a No deal/ hard Brexit Jet2 would not have to withdraw its UK based registered aircraft from its Spanish bases at ALC & PMI because they only operate routes into the UK.
The only way Jet2 would have to withdraw UK registered aircraft from the 2 Spanish bases is if they decided to open up routes within Europe. eg ALC to AMS or PMI to DUS. The easiest way around that would be for Jet2 to apply for AOC from one of the 26+ remaining member countries like Spain.

As you say Easyjet have already sorted out an Austrian AOC to get around them problems, Whilst I'm sure Ryanair have applied to the UK's CAA for a AOC..

I am not sure I can agree with your assessment, certainly MOL in his press conference yesterday, especially detailing the situation with flying and his u.k. shareholders, seemed to be more in my court.
Whilst holding an AOC is one thing, your shareholding legislation is another.
MOL answer yesterday was to advise all u.k. shareholders we could still hold share after 29th March, but with no voting power, up there with many other MOL wide eyed ideas.
With regard to Jet2 the Easyjet route is not possible as Easyjet is 50% european owned, unlike Ryanair and Jet2, this is the big issue. Ryanair really has to decide is it u.k. or european owned, it cant have non voting shares as the way round (my view), Jet2 (Dart Group) to my understanding has a huge u.k. ownership base and has no chance of doing a Easyjet which has just got its share register over the 50% european limit.
If Jet2 holidays intends to fly to America their is no way they can apply for a european AOC, this is MOL dilemma, stay european and give up flying u.k. to the states.

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Interesting as I am attending next weeks Ryanair AGM just had a circular this morning that all media is banned and restriction will be placed on shareholders.
It could be very lively as seems city institutions are not to support the companys plans on dealing with u.k. shareholders, no surprise there.
Its obvious that MOL intends for the company to remain european and therefore give up any ambitions to ever fly to the states from u.k. airports, it will though hold both european and u.k. AOC, but for american authorities will be have majority european stakeholders. allowing flights from southern ireland or mainland europe direct to the states.
This will be the position if the currant regulations the u.k. have with europe and america stay in place.
The main issue for Ryanair and Jet2 post brexit will not be its existing European network, but any future american network.

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Ryanair seem to be uploading more flights for summer 2019, So far the showing 85+ Weekly rotations. The is 1 spare slot where another rotation could be added to the Leeds based aircraft on a Saturday morning.Bad News
2x weekly Venice Treviso seems to have been dropped whilst the Pisa-Florence route reduces from 3x to 2x weekly.Good News
Palma-Majorca increases from 5x weekly 1x daily and the Faro route also increases from 5x weekly to 6x weekly

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Sat here in Portugal with a flight home to LBA on Friday night but just realised its the 28th and the day of the Ryanair strikes.....not had any emails or texts from them telling me its one of the cancelled flights so sat here with fingers crossed.......unless anybody else can tell me any different. Daily Telegraph said affected people should have been notified this morning.

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Came home last night from FARO on FR2504.....airborne 5mins late with a perfectly smooth flight and clear skys most of the way...glided in to LBA and straight through passport control...all the desks were open and we were the only flight there BUT 25 min wait for hold luggage which isn't very good but we were parked on a remote stand 21A so maybe that took 5 mins longer as it is probably the furthest stand away. Overall experience on flight 9/10...airport 8/10. Faro airport 4/10.

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The Friday gap on one of the Leeds based aircraft has now been filled in for summer 2019. Yeap I bet you can guess it? Its by adding an extra weekly Majorca rotation. So Ryanair will operate Leeds-Palma route once daily up from 5x weekly thispast summer.

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Came home last night from FARO on FR2504.....airborne 5mins late with a perfectly smooth flight and clear skys most of the way...glided in to LBA and straight through passport control...all the desks were open and we were the only flight there BUT 25 min wait for hold luggage which isn't very good but we were parked on a remote stand 21A so maybe that took 5 mins longer as it is probably the furthest stand away. Overall experience on flight 9/10...airport 8/10. Faro airport 4/10.

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Just frustrating when you clear passport control straight away then have to sit in the dungeon for nearly half an hour....I had meet a greet so if I would have had just hand luggage I would have been back home in Ilkley just as the bags started to come out.

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