Jean wrote:Aiyoyo, I take Woofer's post as being critical of the people who don't believe JS's accusers, thinking that they're only saying these things to get compensation. I'm sure he or she is not condoning JS's behaviour.

I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding, Woofer - or barking up the wrong tree, ouch!

@Stephen Birch wrote:The articles will not appear today - my credibilty is intact, will post articles when they are printed.

It might have been better to do just that - post the articles when they have appeared. By saying it would be today [when it turns out not to be] you are feeding the belief that you are seeking attention. If you want support here it might be best not to raise people's expectations, only to then turn around and say that your credibility is still intact.

____________________If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. [George Washington]

Jean wrote:Aiyoyo, I take Woofer's post as being critical of the people who don't believe JS's accusers, thinking that they're only saying these things to get compensation. I'm sure he or she is not condoning JS's behaviour.

@Woofer wrote:Is it `attention seeking`? He doesn`t seem that type to me. But maybe I`m naive.

Its so easy to label anyone who blows the whistle on something as an `attention seeker` - an example is all the victims of SirJS being labelled by many as attention seekers. I wish I knew why people did this - they must constantly believe the whole world is on the make.

o/t I am surprised you haven't chocked yourself to death with that appellation for that so-vile JS!

Appellation ???? What appellation?

Eh....where highlighted....He does not deserve to be referred to by that.

The Molly Maguires was a 19th century secret society of mainly Irish-American coal miners. Many historians[who?] believe the "Mollies" were present in the anthracite coal fields of Pennsylvania in the United States between the time of the American Civil War until a series of sensational arrests and trials from 1876−78. The Molly Maguires were accused of kidnapping and other crimes, largely because of the allegations of one powerful industrialist (Franklin B. Gowen), and the testimony of one Pinkerton detective (James McParland). Fellow prisoners testified against the defendants, who were arrested by the Coal and Iron Police, who served Gowen, who acted as prosecutor in some of the trials.[1]

The trusts seem to have focused almost exclusively upon the Molly Maguires for criminal prosecution. Information passed from the Pinkerton detective, intended only for the detective agency and their client — the most powerful industrialist of the region — was apparently[vague] also provided to vigilantes who ambushed and murdered miners suspected of being Molly Maguires, as well as their families.[2] The industrialist standing to gain financially from the destruction of the striking union acted as prosecutor of some of the alleged Molly Maguires at their trials. Molly Maguire history is sometimes presented as the prosecution of an underground movement that was motivated by personal vendettas, and sometimes as a struggle between organized labor and powerful industrial forces. Whether membership in the Molly organization overlapped union membership to any appreciable extent remains open to conjecture

The Molly Maguires was a 19th century secret society of mainly Irish-American coal miners. Many historians[who?] believe the "Mollies" were present in the anthracite coal fields of Pennsylvania in the United States between the time of the American Civil War until a series of sensational arrests and trials from 1876−78. The Molly Maguires were accused of kidnapping and other crimes, largely because of the allegations of one powerful industrialist (Franklin B. Gowen), and the testimony of one Pinkerton detective (James McParland). Fellow prisoners testified against the defendants, who were arrested by the Coal and Iron Police, who served Gowen, who acted as prosecutor in some of the trials.[1]

The trusts seem to have focused almost exclusively upon the Molly Maguires for criminal prosecution. Information passed from the Pinkerton detective, intended only for the detective agency and their client — the most powerful industrialist of the region — was apparently[vague] also provided to vigilantes who ambushed and murdered miners suspected of being Molly Maguires, as well as their families.[2] The industrialist standing to gain financially from the destruction of the striking union acted as prosecutor of some of the alleged Molly Maguires at their trials. Molly Maguire history is sometimes presented as the prosecution of an underground movement that was motivated by personal vendettas, and sometimes as a struggle between organized labor and powerful industrial forces. Whether membership in the Molly organization overlapped union membership to any appreciable extent remains open to conjecture

Thank you Nelly6969, how interesting, you learn something new everyday.

@Stephen Birch wrote:....I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing."What is his next move, what is he doing" ??....

@Stephen Birch wrote:The articles will not appear today - my credibilty is intact, will post articles when they are printed.

It might have been better to do just that - post the articles when they have appeared. By saying it would be today [when it turns out not to be] you are feeding the belief that you are seeking attention. If you want support here it might be best not to raise people's expectations, only to then turn around and say that your credibility is still intact.

Amen!

____________________“Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.” ― Walter Scott, Marmion

I infact think it may have been a good idea to post up here before they appear in papers,at least we wont be accusing him and wondering ,if it was really his work being spoken of .what can he do i wonder to keep everyone happy on site here?We shall all be rejoicing ,if we do find he maybe onto something ,not much else to report hereat present joyce1938

@Woofer wrote:Is it `attention seeking`? He doesn`t seem that type to me. But maybe I`m naive.

Its so easy to label anyone who blows the whistle on something as an `attention seeker` - an example is all the victims of SirJS being labelled by many as attention seekers. I wish I knew why people did this - they must constantly believe the whole world is on the make.

o/t I am surprised you haven't chocked yourself to death with that appellation for that so-vile JS!

Appellation ???? What appellation?

Eh....where highlighted....He does not deserve to be referred to by that.

ok ok you`re forgiven ..... for not realising it was tongue in cheek. Perhaps there should be an emoticon for that.

" Y'ken Molly Maguire? Gerald McCann knows the Molly Maguire The Molly Maguire knew Gerald McCann Maddy McCann was a Molly Maguire Y'ken Molly Maguire? Molly knew Maddie Gerald knows Molly So where and who now knows the body? Y'ken Molly Maguire?"***A puzzling rhyme indeed :-)A woman, Molly Maguire, led a secret society, an extralegal, anti-landlord organization that terrorized law officers in Ireland in the 1840’s. Reportedly its membership was drawn from the Ancient Order of Hibernians. Hibernian = Irish. Gerry is Irish? They were particular active in County Donegal ...

Molly Maguires, members of a movement based on the original Irish, dominated the mining industry in East Pennsylvania approx 1865-1870, often resorting to intimidation and murder. They were infiltrated by a Pinkerton agent, James McParlan. His secret reports were released for study in 1947.

Molly Maguire is also a singer ... And it’s also the name of many a pub in Ireland and in Pennsylvania.

@Stephen Birch wrote:I wonder if members ever look at the location of fellow members on the location map - Ever notice I am standing alone at the tip of Africa, while there's a bunch of members all clustered and standing together in the UK.

A bit intimidating at first glance.....lol

Stephen D. Birch

I frankly wonder if members know where the location map is located! Or if they would be intimidated by it if they knew....You really don't do yourself any good by making rather pointless posts like that... IMO of course...

Why don't you just post the articles which will be appearing all over Portugal so that we can see where you are up to with your quest?

If you ignore him he will be left talking to himself. If he wants to be taken seriously he will have to prove it, simple. Let's be patient and wait to see what he proves himself to be?

BTW, when I clicked on Jean's link I don't see location. Instead I saw what posters viewing topics. And strangely mine shows "view who is online" - erm what the hell is that? I never view who is online. Can't get clued up...

Given that I do not know who is watching this Forum, and who knows who, I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing.

"What is his next move, what is he doing" ??

The reason I do make posts in this Forum, is for those people, who I hope are the majority, who really want Madeleine to be found.

One thing you can be assured of, I will not give up on my quest to recover the remains of Madeleine Mc Cann.

Given that I do not know who is watching this Forum, and who knows who, I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing.

"What is his next move, what is he doing" ??

The reason I do make posts in this Forum, is for those people, who I hope are the majority, who really want Madeleine to be found.

One thing you can be assured of, I will not give up on my quest to recover the remains of Madeleine Mc Cann.

Yours sincerely

Stephen D. Birch

Oh please...

This is laughable.

I will come back and apologise if I am mistaken.

I dont think you will be eating any hats any time soon!!

____________________“Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.” ― Walter Scott, Marmion