a conversation about how to redustourdeficitlet'shave that. we've been having that nor the last two years. we just had an entire campaign about it. by the way the american people agreed with me that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way that takes into account the need for us to grow this economy. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager and cohost of the five. mary katherine ham is editor at large and fox news contributor. why do you think it was so testy yesterday? >> obama's best form is not necessarily a press conference which is why he does than do many of them. i which he was testy for one real reason. the republicans trying to take the full faith and crucify the united states currency and putting it at fist being. i'd invoke the 14th amendment, we'd problem below know that if we spent more time with the republicans wasting time on the floor of the house. i thought he ought to raise it and to hell with congress. martha: we talked to stewart varney and kirsten said in that sound byte, this isn't about default, people don't think we aren't going to pay the debt o

to quit spending money and try to cut into thisdeficit. >>reporter: house republicans see the debt ceiling deadline next month as one of the best ways early in the president's second term to force him to accept a new round of spending cuts and may have it on an incremental basis, one, two o three months and using that process to achieve more deficit reduction. >> former speaker of the house and republican presidential candidate newt gingrich. good morning mr. speaker. >> it's good to be with you. >> good to be with you. you say fighting over the debt ceiling is a bad idea for congressional republicans. why? >> because in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side and the fact is republicans have two much bet ear renas to fight over spending they have a continuing resolution which funds government which comes up at the end of march and they have the sequester,

will get democrats involved inthedeficitreductiondebate by passing a budget by april. >>> and former new orleans mayor, ray nagin, who promised to crack down on corruption, has been indicted on corruption charges. nagin is facing 21 counts, including wire fraud, aun money laundering. mark greenblatt has this story. >> reporter: indicted for construction. the one-time former rock star mayor of new orleans, stands accused of what he campaigned against. >> this state and this city, is saying to the old-line politic toes, we're tired of the games. >> reporter: it's a striking fall from grace for ray nagin, as the justice department indicts him for awarding lucrative contracts and kickbacks in vacation hot spots. he's accused of pocketing more than $200,000 in describes. and the indictment even charges nagin for trying to pocket cash for himself, as the city struggled to recover from hurricane katrina. he awarded a contract for sidewalks. and the next day, a business family member paid nagin a kickback. one of the many allegations now lodged against the man, famous for deciding the federa

will force senate democrats to get involved inthedeficitreductiondebate by passing a budget by april. >>> and former new orleans mayor, ray nagin, who promised to crack down on corruption, has been indicted on corruption charges. nagin is facing 21 counts, including wire fraud, bribery and money laundering. abc's mark greenblatt has this story. >> reporter: indicted for corruption. the one-time former rock star mayor of new orleans, stands caused of becoming exactly what he campaigned against. >> this state and this city, is saying to the old-line politicos we're tired of the games. we're tired of the corruption. and we want to go in a new direction. >> reporter: it's a striking fall from grace for ray nagin, as the justice department now charges him with awarding lucrative city contracts in exchange for kickbacks and trips to vacation hot spots like hawaii, jamaica and las vegas. he's accused of pocketing more than $200,000 in bribes. and the indictment even charges nagin with trying to pocket cash for himself, as the city struggled to recover from hurricane katrina. ? one case, nag

to borrow money to make upthedeficit, butonly up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the bills that are already incurred by your democratically elected congress. the way you would if you are a little short on your monthly bills. refinancing a little bit. that will get us through maybe mid-february to early march. once that stops working, the treasury needs to rely on the cash that it has on hand and the revenue that comes in from taxes. problem is, there isn't that much cash on hand or enough money coming in on most days to cover the expenses. if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got

it himself. what i'm told is that we can expect to touch as you might expectondeficitsanddebt. on immigration and gun control. but he is also going to address our seemingly broken politics. you have to remember the inaugural address is part of a large day of events and the people who are organizing it well placed democrats tell me that they are trying to make sure that one appeared, including the president. no one appears to be spiking the football. they don't want people watching at home as one democrat said to me to get the idea that oh, he, meaning the president, is having a big party while the rest of us are still mired in a financial crisis, bill. >> bill: yeah. they are even having trouble filling the party. the address is monday night. we will be live on the factor. we have a really good lineup. i have seen a change in the demeanor as i said to senator rubio of president obama. is he a little more in your face than he was before the election. just real quick, rosen, you have seen that change? >> yeah. and i think the nomination of chuck hagel shows it. >> bill: okay. no

, andadeficitof$1.4 trillion to $1.6 trillion per year. we're spending $1.6 million per year than we're bringing in. >> you've accused the president of using scare tactics. what do you mean by that? do you think he's lying about what could happen? >> the thing is, you know what, first of all it's not congress that determines if we default. it's the treasury so i guess that would be secretary timothy geithner if he's still there. it would be the treasury that would decide but we have enough money to pay the interest on our debt, i believe it's $2.5 trillion comes into the treasury every year. that's enough money to pay the interest on the debt. we're not going to cut off payments to seniors on their social security and medicare, and then the military -- >> you saw what happened the last time when we argued about the debt ceiling. our credit rating was downgraded. that is partisan gridlock. >> that is a massive amount of debt. >> it was because of partisan gridlock. >> i disagree. >> and congress not being able to get its act together. we've seen what can happen. >> congress needs to g

and republicans. out of that, hopefully, some progress being made to getthisdeficitanddebt under control. we believe our obligation is to help prevent a debt crisis from hitting this country. republicans have had a tough spot here. the president of united states as he is not negotiating the debt ceiling. he says it is simply up to congress. it is due to spending that is already approved. the majority of republicans voted against the deal because there were no spending cuts. this was the first strategy session. we are going to have these fights throughout the spring. back to you. cheryl: we just had a guest trying to tell us to avoid the noise in washington. thank you very much, rich. dennis: let's take a look at apple shares right now. down five dollars. 1%. another tip today. an analyst says do not hang up on the iphone maker. that cancellation of orders for iphone parts, it is not tied to sell drop in demand for iphone5. apple is moving toward so-called -- screens from different suppliers. analyst who are usually critical of apple came out and said, look, this recent sellout, way overdone.

the american economy. >> steve: here is somebody who dealt withenormousdeficitsfirsthand,the former governor of the golden state of california, arnold schwarzenegger. good morning to you. >> good morning. nice to be here again. >> brian: he sends a warning to the republicans should they back off or take on the president? >> first of all, i think i find it interesting that when you want to have more money, if you go to any financial institution, they say look, i can't pay my bills, i need more money. they want to see their payment plan. how are you going to live responsible from here on? then you can get more money. so i don't understand that why this should not be a part of the discussion because it ought to be. i think america should not just blindly go in there and keep spending money that we don't have. every single day we're spending more and more money. every year it's like $1.3 trillion more than we have and then it gets added to the debt and that's why this short period of time we have seen the debt go up. >> steve: we have a live picture of the debt now. all right, governor.

the debt limitwithdeficitreduction.nothing could be further from the truth. in the past three decades the only thing that has worked in washington to get the spending under control is to tie debt spending to a limit. gramm-rudman. it is a tool that can and should be used. >>gretchen: he seems to think it has nothing to do with spending. what would be your counter to that? >> it has everything to do with spending. again, it's been the most effective tool to be used to try to get washington to finally begin to tighten its belt and do the right thing. if we don't, the country does become bankrupt. some would grew it already -- some would argue it already is, as we saw in that hbo -- hank paulson looked good. >>gretchen: he wasn't playing himself. unfortunately we're out of time, but this discussion could go on and on. >> the american people want us to deal with this issue, and this has been the time and place to do it. we ought to do it in the next few weeks. >>gretchen: senator, great to see you. more "fox & friends" more "fox & friends" straight ahead.t jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's f