Maybe I'm missing something, but how is it legal for "profoundly deaf" people to drive? How can they react to various things like cars beeping because they're drifting into the wrong lane or an emergency vehicle's siren? It seems to me it would be the equivalent of a person driving with noise-cancelling headphones on, which I'm pretty sure isn't kosher.

Good thing he didn't try to use sign language, otherwise, a gangbanger might shot him, while he was getting his ass kicked by the cops. This is another example showing that people with disabilities can have exciting lives, too.

nyrB:Maybe I'm missing something, but how is it legal for "profoundly deaf" people to drive? How can they react to various things like cars beeping because they're drifting into the wrong lane or an emergency vehicle's siren? It seems to me it would be the equivalent of a person driving with noise-cancelling headphones on, which I'm pretty sure isn't kosher.

Deaf drivers can get devices that let them know when an emergency vehicle is approaching or if someone is honking. But honestly, it's not needed. Using your eyes is enough for driving.

The One True TheDavid:But, you know, it's probably wrong to prejudge and hate people based solely on what they do for a living. Even the po-po. Isn't it?

They're getting what they deserve. They give us the "thin blue line" where even the "good" cops close ranks and prevent a bad cop from being punished for his crimes. That makes them all dirty and corrupt.

Bedstead Polisher:I think it should be drilled into cops that if someone is not cooperating (and is non-violent) they should go through a checklist to see if that person is physically impaired (blind/deaf) or possibly suffering from a diabetic shock or something. You hear too many of these stories where cops knee-jerk that the person not listening to them starts to get a beatdown. I know that it's probably a small statistic, but I'm sure it would probably avoid situations like this.

Your mistake here is assuming that the police are trying to AVOID beatdowns. From what I can gather over the last couple of threads, they're fairly chomping at the bit to beat the crap out of people.

Cops are farking trash these days. Even the "good" ones are only just not openly hostile at that moment. Once it's a matter of taking the side of what's right or taking the side of their brothers-in-blue they will turn on you, too, and lie in court about it later.

Bedstead Polisher:I think it should be drilled into cops that if someone is not cooperating (and is non-violent) they should go through a checklist to see if that person is physically impaired (blind/deaf) or possibly suffering from a diabetic shock or something. You hear too many of these stories where cops knee-jerk that the person not listening to them starts to get a beatdown. I know that it's probably a small statistic, but I'm sure it would probably avoid situations like this.

And what steps an impaired person might be likely to take to facilitate communication.

However, I have my doubts about this case. This apparently started with the guy leaving the scene of an accident. That's not the actions of a good guy.

labman:I had a friend who was deaf in one ear and had only 20% hearing in the other ear who got pulled over for speeding. Naturally, his deaf ear faced the window so when the cop came up and was talking to him, he was trying to use his hand to block the cops flashlight so he could read his lips. the cop kept saying put down your hands, but then he didn't know what he was saying.

Eventually, the cop got frustrated and was like "What are you, Deaf?" really loud. That he heard, so he turned his head and pointed to his hearing aid in the other ear and said "YES."

The cop got this really sheepish look and just gave him a warning.

/csb

Tell your friend to start out by indicating that he's deaf!

Latinwolf:The One True TheDavid: Once a state cop in Arizona threw me on the hood and jammed his .357 into the back of my neck because I not only didn't immediately comply but also stepped forward with my hands in the air to say "What?"

I take it you didn't know that you're not supposed to step out of your car until the cop tells you to do so and instead you attempted to provoke him because only a complete moron would think that your actions as described was not an attempt at provoking an aggressive situation.

This. Seriously. And I'm no ITG, and I have no criminal record and I've never done anything illegal but I'm also sick to death of what is happening with cops in this country and I don't see any reason to be sad when that rare one gets some comeuppance any more than I see reason to cry about a violent end to a mobster. It's the life they chose and they almost certainly had it coming.

teenytinycornteeth:Bedstead Polisher: I think it should be drilled into cops that if someone is not cooperating (and is non-violent) they should go through a checklist to see if that person is physically impaired (blind/deaf) or possibly suffering from a diabetic shock or something. You hear too many of these stories where cops knee-jerk that the person not listening to them starts to get a beatdown. I know that it's probably a small statistic, but I'm sure it would probably avoid situations like this.

Your mistake here is assuming that the police are trying to AVOID beatdowns. From what I can gather over the last couple of threads, they're fairly chomping at the bit to beat the crap out of people.

You do have a point. They also get paid leave out of it. Who do I have to beat at my job to get paid time off?

You guys are missing the point. This is an uplifting and inspiring story about a deaf person overcoming his handicap, and convincing the local constabulary to treat him no different from the rest of the citizenry.

Serious Post on Serious Thread:The One True TheDavid: But, you know, it's probably wrong to prejudge and hate people based solely on what they do for a living. Even the po-po. Isn't it?

Nobody is this stupid, so I'm assuming trolling. But just in case:

YOUR ASININE COMMENT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE NOT WEILDING AUTHORITY OVER OTHER PEOPLE.

/hth

Well maybe in your case. To judge an entire group by the actions of a very small portion of that group is incredibly stupid and shows a sever lack of thought. Its the same as someone saying all blacks are thieves or all Jews are cheapskates. Its ignorant stupidity and removes any credibility you could have had. I would guess you have had run ins with the police that werent on a friendly basis before.They are just like lawyers, No one likes them until the need one.

Netrngr:Serious Post on Serious Thread: The One True TheDavid: But, you know, it's probably wrong to prejudge and hate people based solely on what they do for a living. Even the po-po. Isn't it?

Nobody is this stupid, so I'm assuming trolling. But just in case:

YOUR ASININE COMMENT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE NOT WEILDING AUTHORITY OVER OTHER PEOPLE.

/hth

Well maybe in your case. To judge an entire group by the actions of a very small portion of that group is incredibly stupid and shows a sever lack of thought. Its the same as someone saying all blacks are thieves or all Jews are cheapskates. Its ignorant stupidity and removes any credibility you could have had. I would guess you have had run ins with the police that werent on a friendly basis before.They are just like lawyers, No one likes them until the need one.

Counterpoint: Blacks and Jews generally don't have much say in the matter of whether or not they're black or Jewish. For the most part, they don't start out as high school jocks and/or bullies who decide that they want to get paid to beat people up for no good reason, they don't have to go through an obstacle course and firing range in order to get their Black Person or Jewish Person certification, and if they were to kill someone they wouldn't be "punished" with a paid vacation.

King Something:Netrngr: Serious Post on Serious Thread: The One True TheDavid: But, you know, it's probably wrong to prejudge and hate people based solely on what they do for a living. Even the po-po. Isn't it?

Nobody is this stupid, so I'm assuming trolling. But just in case:

YOUR ASININE COMMENT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE NOT WEILDING AUTHORITY OVER OTHER PEOPLE.

/hth

Well maybe in your case. To judge an entire group by the actions of a very small portion of that group is incredibly stupid and shows a sever lack of thought. Its the same as someone saying all blacks are thieves or all Jews are cheapskates. Its ignorant stupidity and removes any credibility you could have had. I would guess you have had run ins with the police that werent on a friendly basis before.They are just like lawyers, No one likes them until the need one.

Counterpoint: Blacks and Jews generally don't have much say in the matter of whether or not they're black or Jewish. For the most part, they don't start out as high school jocks and/or bullies who decide that they want to get paid to beat people up for no good reason, they don't have to go through an obstacle course and firing range in order to get their Black Person or Jewish Person certification, and if they were to kill someone they wouldn't be "punished" with a paid vacation.

Pretty much what King said.

But to be clear, the statement "it's probably wrong to prejudge and hate people based solely on what they do for a living." is just moronic. So I shouldn't prejudge Burglars, Pirates and Grifters simply on there chosen profession. The fact you can't differentiate between prejudice based on race and prejudice based on profession illustrates your "ignorant stupidity and removes any credibility you could have had."

You probably have a point somewhere that I'd concede. Let's see if you're smart enough to articulate it.