tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post3825250962412286745..comments2017-07-14T18:32:08.872-04:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Requiem for a RussTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-7447427437701649632009-02-19T19:55:00.000-05:002009-02-19T19:55:00.000-05:00I don't think most folks held Adams' bat against h...I don't think most folks held Adams' bat against him as much as the fact that he seemed to think 1B was either 5' higher and/or 15' further away from where it actually was...Dave_Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-18235509988408309732009-02-08T12:21:00.000-05:002009-02-08T12:21:00.000-05:001) The Jays made a decision three years ago that ...1) The Jays made a decision three years ago that Adams' bat was good enough that they should give up on his SS defence and convert him to 2B. In hindsight, the truth is his bat is only good enough at SS and they should have left him in AAA for the past three years working on his arm. His SS defence, from my recollection, was only horrible due to his throwing accuracy, the rest of the package was average-ish. And it seemed to be a head (confidence) issue too. Leaving him at SS in the minors, may have helped the situation considerably. Again - in hindsight.<BR/><BR/>2) From BA's 2006 handbook, here is our projected 2009 starting lineup:<BR/><BR/>C - Curtis Thigpen (DFA)<BR/>1b - Lyle Overbay<BR/>2b - Orlando Hudson<BR/>3b - Aaron Hill<BR/>ss - Russ Adams (DFA)<BR/>lf - Adam Lind<BR/>cf - Vernon Wells<BR/>rf - Alex Rios<BR/>dh - Shea Hillenbrand<BR/><BR/>s1 - Doc<BR/>s2 - AJ<BR/>s3 - Dustin McGowan<BR/>s4 - Gus Chacin (DFA)<BR/>s5 - Ricky Romero<BR/>cl - BJ RyanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-15629435083925426392009-02-07T13:21:00.000-05:002009-02-07T13:21:00.000-05:00Scoot ain't that bad, better than Adams. Maybe Ing...Scoot ain't that bad, better than Adams. Maybe Inglett can come on board as SS after Scoot and JOhnny Mac fly the coop.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-50772468135717578172009-02-07T00:13:00.000-05:002009-02-07T00:13:00.000-05:00Well mash my taters. Let's give Scoots the MVP pos...Well mash my taters. <BR/><BR/>Let's give Scoots the MVP post facto.<BR/><BR/>Scutaro is a good fielder...but then again, Adams didn't really start to get the yips until after 2005.<BR/><BR/>So there.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-65674959380286241462009-02-06T20:16:00.000-05:002009-02-06T20:16:00.000-05:00The difference between Russ and Marco lies in thei...The difference between Russ and Marco lies in their fielding. Russ was well below league average in 2005 while Scutaro was above or well above average in 2008. Add in the fact that Scoots played 6 positions last season and you can see his added ~value~ and how they are not close to being the same player.Callumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13393864676238323942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-16817972533240459692009-02-06T18:12:00.000-05:002009-02-06T18:12:00.000-05:00JP did amazing in the 2002 draft, he got Bullingto...JP did amazing in the 2002 draft, he got Bullington and Loewen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-86739625784675560102009-02-06T18:00:00.000-05:002009-02-06T18:00:00.000-05:00jw: You took the words right out of my mouth. Not ...jw: You took the words right out of my mouth. Not only was Adams Beane's second pick among position players, he was the second pick even if money was no object--ahead of Khalil Greene.Torgenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12254724427156121537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-726623167168477502009-02-06T17:56:00.000-05:002009-02-06T17:56:00.000-05:00I wish I could find that article that listed the J...I wish I could find that article that listed the Jays position players in 5 years and how it was going to be amazing. Russ Adams was definitely at short. The rest are pretty much intact (Hill, Lind, Snider, Rios -- I forget the rest.)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for letting me into your pool, Tao. You either like me more than I thought (probably not) or you are overstating the demand -- which I applaud!Darren Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577092117174508443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-67566831800118100092009-02-06T17:23:00.000-05:002009-02-06T17:23:00.000-05:00Thanks Tao, I'm a bit surprised that JP wasn't abl...Thanks Tao, I'm a bit surprised that JP wasn't able to trade Rusty for someone else's failed #1 pick, the whole "he just needs a fresh start and then he'll start hitting" line that always gets used.<BR/><BR/>I really hope Swisher doesn't turn into Paul O'Neil II, that would really suck, cause I hated Paul O'Neil.Svennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-18350742343848228142009-02-06T16:04:00.001-05:002009-02-06T16:04:00.001-05:00Throw the bottle in the recycling.*hic*I miss Adam...Throw the bottle in the recycling.<BR/><BR/>*hic*<BR/><BR/>I miss Adams that much already.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-18967298685175032702009-02-06T16:04:00.000-05:002009-02-06T16:04:00.000-05:00If you choose to believe Moneyball, Russ was a con...If you choose to believe Moneyball, Russ was a consensus top pick. The Mets only took Kaz because Russ was off the board, and the A's had him pegged as the second they would take after Swisher. JP would have been better served grabbing Swisher instead but Adams would only have dropped a couple slots if that was the case.jwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05779461626101396459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-22415174522181634852009-02-06T16:03:00.000-05:002009-02-06T16:03:00.000-05:00@Sven:Adams was playing a lot of left field last y...@Sven:<BR/><BR/>Adams was playing a lot of left field last year in Syracuse, and was still pretty much hitting like a scrappy utility player.<BR/><BR/>@Chris<BR/><BR/>We just poured a bottle of Wild Turkey on a 2005 Jays program with Adams on the cover, and turned up Boys II Men's "It's So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday".<BR/><BR/>Then, we went to throw the bottom in the recycling, but launched it three feet high and wide. Fitting.<BR/><BR/>We're sure that many more tributes will pour in over the weekend.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-59589935783936671872009-02-06T16:02:00.000-05:002009-02-06T16:02:00.000-05:00FYI, I just shat in my pants. Too much informatio...FYI, I just shat in my pants. Too much information?The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-30324726903394753322009-02-06T15:59:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:59:00.000-05:00Not to scare you Ack, but it is a 6x6 league.Booge...Not to scare you Ack, but it is a 6x6 league.<BR/><BR/>Boogedy boogedy!Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-38606286664328691452009-02-06T15:58:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:58:00.000-05:00Just how bad was Adams at short? I didn't see him...Just how bad was Adams at short? I didn't see him play that year, but can he still play middle infield in the majors? If he can't play there, then his value is pretty small.<BR/><BR/>However, there's no way that he'd be tolerated as a Scrappy Super Sub as a #1 pick. They are almost always "where did this guy come from"?Svennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-88677451204915180642009-02-06T15:56:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:56:00.000-05:00I hope Aaron Hill doesn't suffer from post traumat...I hope Aaron Hill doesn't suffer from post traumatic stress disorder as a result of this.<BR/><BR/>.<BR/>.<BR/>.<BR/><BR/>I fully expect to fail miserably in the Tao's roto hoe-down. I've never done a 5X5 league, the annual league I'm in is a points based head to head. <BR/><BR/>PS. pre-emptive excuses fucking rule.The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-35255473814973500052009-02-06T15:51:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:51:00.000-05:00I would of applied, but I am in 2 and possibly 3 l...I would of applied, but I am in 2 and possibly 3 leagues already that are quite in depth with minor leaguers, contracts and cap issues.<BR/><BR/>However, That being said I am now officially offering up my services as a cheerleader to someone in the league. Highest bidder gets it. Bids can be made in Jays Tickets, Jays Bobbleheads and Rogers Cable Credit.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.Johnny Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557845488163663429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-34638619170904415692009-02-06T15:50:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:50:00.000-05:00It's all about expectations...When your utility-in...It's all about expectations...<BR/><BR/>When your utility-infielder-turned-starter-because-Eckstein-sucks hits like that then it's a nice bonus. But when your 1st-round pick-shortstop-of-the-future puts up those numbers, it's a little different.<BR/><BR/>And let's not forget Adams' defense. Actually, strike that. Do everything you can to forget his defense.<BR/><BR/>/does a tequila shot<BR/>//smokes a bowl<BR/>///shoots heroin<BR/>////Still remembers all those missed throws. Crap!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01114593918749256743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-78628534241867936632009-02-06T15:35:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:35:00.000-05:00Wow, that shit about Adams and Scoot is completely...Wow, that shit about Adams and Scoot is completely fucked up. Wow.<BR/><BR/>Good luck, Russel. And Godspeed.eyebleafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-42552865542247544742009-02-06T15:32:00.000-05:002009-02-06T15:32:00.000-05:00I too will muss Riss. So much so that I wrote a s...I too will muss Riss. So much so that I wrote a similar post that went up 9 minutes after yours. I didn't think about the Scutaro thing, thankfully. I need to sleep at night.Lloyd the Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.com