TRON 3 teaser details... tis true!

Hey folks, Harry here in rehab for my back surgery. Today, it seems my equilibrium, center of gravity and legs have all begun shoring up. Still a long way to go, but damn - this is exciting to be living through. Almost as exciting as the details that I got from the footage that was shot BEFORE Thanksgiving of last year to be a teaser of the future, it seems.

I was contacted by someone that worked on the shoot for this DVD Extra. That this person's experience on set gave him, it will be made up of at least 3 scenes.

One includes Bruce Boxleitner (as Alan) and Dan Shor (as Ram). Turns out that "Ram" was apparently running the FLYNN LIVES campaign and he's frantically destroying all of that data and files, as Alan confronts him. Dan apparently utters the line, "Why did Kevin give you the cool name" - which means to my way of thinking that after Flynn came out of the Grid, he sought out the human soul of Ram and befriended him and started calling him RAM - you know - some geek that wrote that Actuarial Program that helped people plan for the future. I sorta love that. And love that the kindness Flynn showed this lowly geek, apparently created a gung ho champion for the life and memory of Kevin Flynn.

Another has Quora showing up to ENCOM and getting acousted by the press because she's riding Sam's Ducati - and states that she just spoke with Kevin Flynn, yesterday!

The last scene that was shot in this mini-shoot involved text screens where you see the Father & Son... The Dillingers stating that everything is going as planned.

That particular bit has me giddy beyond fucking words.

Now how do I know this is true? I've got the call sheets, location maps... oh, and these

And you were among one of the first to have this information. Wish it was more frequent. I wish you would boycott anything Twilight related, and start a sister site called AINTITFUCKINGAWFULNEWS.COM where you could post stories about movies like that. AIFAN for short...whaddaya think? Just my two cents.

Is it coincidence that the site has been much improved since you messed up your spine or are running it like the old days because you can't do anything else? ............ Its nice to stop by every few hours and see new articles and decent news ... Maybe you make rehab last a while??

have no idea what a backiotomy is, but I will always praise anyone quoting Sir Smoke A Lot...
with that said... "Im impotent... get away from me, bitch!"
rumor has it, Harry says that frequently in his household. poor Yoko's unused vagina

Since we were discussing lost Disney magic in an earlier thread, I really think that parade is the perfect stage for some Tron awesomeness. If you've ever seen Spectromagic its far better than the orig electric light parade. Just think of it, glowing characters from BOTH films walking and interacting with the crowd. Not hard to do since this is all at night. I can see it now... light cycles either on a float or perhaps piloted & just slowly rolling along the route and I'm sure the imagineers could create some form of light trail illusion. Well at least pt3 looks more likely.

before ANYTHING gets done...before the first CGI frame is "filmed", before Olivia gets dipped in Latex, before Daft Punk put their helmets back on......
This time out, SOMEONE needs to hire a decent FUCKING WRITER who understands structure, and fucking dialog.

is why it took Harry over a decade to get his back fucking MRI'd after you hurt it all those years ago?
Dude...Don't tell me you just sat there and lived with it this last decade while it got progressively worse without once going to a specialist or getting a second opinion;...it had to have been identifiable YEARS ago for these guys to spot the issue on the FIRST SCAN.
The lesson here Boys and Girls...Health Insurance + personal responsibility for health > desire for your 3rd Inflatable Godzilla

First of all, if this news it true I am very happy.
I just saw TL for the 3rd time. I was in Ottawa and found an IMAX showing (no IMAX theatres in my city).
Anyway I was suprised when I went in to the theatre. The screen was the same size (I thought) as a normal ciniplex screen. It wasn't as tall as I remember other IMAX theatres being. But they had the laser show at the beginning and the usual IMAX intro.
But, this presentation did not seem any better visually or sonically than the non-IMAX regular 3D presentation I saw it at. Are there different sizes of IMAX screens?
For all the hype of the IMAX version, I was underwhelmed. It was still a great movie but no better than the other viewings I've had.

Looks like Disney didnt read the doom mongers script that has been a constant maon on here! They seem to have forgotton that the film should not get a few decent reviews, good word of mouth, good box office returns and NO SEQUEL. I guess some people were wrong here!
I have read most of the Tron talkbacks and it is a sad reflection of people some times. It has decended to a binary argument. Decending into personal insults of peoples film knowledge/taste or even character. Tron legacy has been argued about as if it was the follow up to Citizen Kane - if it had a meaning or was as visually ground breaking as the original, that basically had the most computer animation in a film to date.
Some of the reasons for the film being "dead to me (this filmed killed my puppy and ate its corpse if you like it you are a murderer)" have been asinine:
Wendy Carlos did not return
The head was not TOTALLY realistic – you ever seen a Ray Harryhousen film?
Tron was not in it - probably being held back for the next
Hedlund was too wooden to be Pinnochio – did Mark Hammill sink Star Wars?
Why is there dust in a computer – its called visual flair.
Yori is not in it – neither is Dillinger...
The film was a sequel to a misunderstood childrens film. It followed the same universe and logic rather than rebooting or contemparising it. The film took the 28 years into account and used it for its advantage introducing new characters. The film was visually and sonically awesome. Maybe you do not like electronic music but it suited the film down to the ground. Some criticisms are valid but they do not sink the film. Its pacing was a problem and it did slow down at times, when it was exciting it was exciting though. The action was crisp and clean, filmed beautifully. When there was exposition it was interesting and drove the film forward. This could ave been done better but it could have been so much worse. Some say it was an empty film – fine if that is how you saw it. I do not know what you were looking for. It is a sequel, it is a childrens film. Some say it had lazy cliches – but these are universally known.
Those that have hated this film seem to have been expecting a master piece. Those that enjoyed it enjoyed it with an open mind seeing it as a childrens action film. It was a lot better than most have been in the last 10 years, and could be enjoyed by both adults and children alike. One thing I have noticed is a generational division. This may be anecdotal but those over 30 seemed yo really enjoy it. I know 7 people this age that all watched it and enjoyed it. None this age hated it. Also some what anecdotal is that next to me was my girlfriend that enjoyed it (she will never watch it again though) and also 2 teen girls in the chairs the other way. This seemed to have an appeal across gender and ages.
The genral arguments seem to break down to a set of easily learned arguments
It was too slow/ there was too much talking - yep pacing was at times poor - but most of the talking was needed - dont like it then watch Transformers.
It did not have a Carlos score / the original look of a 30 year old film... boohoo what replaced it was more than adequate
It had no message - it was a kids film, and there were a few subversive subjects like ownership, family and feminity there
The teaser was “was like soooo” much better... get another retrofitted arguement
The CGI head wobbled/there were jets and dust in a computer - not all effects are 100% photorealistic, I grew up with films that hasd massive black lines from bluescreen - deal with it.
It will not make $300000000, there will be no sequel - the gross has nothing to do with it!
In the end I think there are a lot of people that using this as a weapon to justify themselves in talkbacks. Their hatred is pathological and used to beat others, to make them feel better, to feel powerful. The film was fun (Ill say that again FUN - FUN FUN FUN, no matter how some criticise it the film was FUN!!! to a lot that saw it) not a classic but very good for what it was – a visually and sonic triumph. A lot of the nay sayers here must be either dead in the heart or critical posuers.

Fact is, when I hurt my back originally, my father & mine's income was under $20k a year. Restocking, rent, electricity, etc... there was no room for insurance. Contrary to popular mass delusion, I am not, and have never been monetarily rich. My mother's estate is all still in probate - so that fortune, real fortune, is still a couple years away. After I started walking, after the initial paralysis - I had no signs of a problem. 8 years later when it did... I was monetarily better off, but still not at a level where I could afford insurance, and having insurance wouldn't help a pre-existing condition.
The thing that always kept me from checking it out was the concept that it would cost untold fortunes to do whatever was necessary to heal my back. It was obviously spinal, which is scary as hell surgery if you don't have the ability to have the best do it. The fact was, I was still able to use crutches to get around, the wheelchair wasn't bad - and I enjoyed my life greatly. The only sad moments in life were the things I wanted to do with my wife.
That's why I got the lapband, why I joined the gym - why I dropped 140lbs, from when I was up at 460lbs. At the end of that, I was 320lbs, could press 410 lbs on the leg machine at the gym... and when I still couldn't walk... I realized, the only way this would ever get fixed is if a new incident occurred that would get me into an emergency room.
When I went to get out of the car at my house on my wife's birthday... I was so depressed to suddenly find both legs not only lifeless, but throbbing with the feel of a thousand needles.
NOW -- want to hear the irony of it all.
Had I gone to the doctors back in 1996 when this all started, the surgery that I had done was not a process yet. But, for the past 5 years, it's become pretty standard. The Neurologists said that actually what I did, happened to be the best possible route to have gone. It was a tightrope walk they said, but had I gone in back then, they would have TRIED something, like they TRIED on a lot of people back then, that have serial pain for their lives and problems with movement still.
Instead, I apparently took perfect care of my back and skin and the problems I had. I didn't have repeated falls and reinjuries or extra injuries. NOW - not only do I have the ability to take care of this properly, but I did it without having to lie, without defaulting on a surgery, thus contributing to the crisis that is our Medical Care industry.
And now, I fully appreciate the wonders of this surgery, the rehab and helping the elderly here feel better and have a little joy as they recover from strokes, separation from loved ones and the like.
I read everything about Spine injuries, rehab and how to care for myself. Literally every single Doctor I've met so far have agreed that I survived till the technology, and way to attain it honestly without destroying my family's financial situation.
I know that might seem foolish to you, but I've beaten this thing now. Every single moment of rehab is a success. I'm doing this with an immense amount of cheer and helping those with less good spirits to do their rehab in same.
SO - yeah, I wish I never had to do the 7 years in a wheelchair - but I found my wife while in it. We fell in love when I was at my least mobile and she loves me so much she got a great job with great medical - and now she's gets a proper husband. And that rules!

I knew it I knew it I knew it! Looking forward to seeing some snarky Dillinger junior action, maybe even a newer, more destructive MCP?
Note to Disney: now that the moviegoing public is up to speed on this shit, you can now proceed to go balls out and deliver the explosion of awesomeness that TRON LEGACY should have been.
See you on the Grid, fuckers!

There are now IMAX-branded digital projection screens popping up at 'upgraded' multiplexes, which are not using traditional IMAX 70mm/15-perf film format. These branded screens cannot project the large-format short subject or specialty DMR/IMAX presentations printed to celluloid.
IMAX doesn't seem to have coined a name for these digital auditoriums, likely to avoid audiences discerning between the two, even though the difference (or similarity to multiplex screens) is noticeable - as you found out yourself.
In the instance of TRON:LEGACY, a number of sequences were in full-height IMAX format, and the aspect ratio changed frequently (although, I found it to be more annoying than in, let's say, Batman:TDK's IMAX presentation). Basically, you know you're in a classic IMAX auditorium when the screen seems taller (approx 1.35:1 ratio) and has a separate spot in a theater complex, since the screen it is accommodating is so huge.

Just found this little bit of info:
"...Dan Shor reprising his role from the original 1982 Tron (credited as “Popcorn co-worker” in the real world, “Ram” in The Grid)."
Popcorn co-worker!? How the fuck didn't I notice this? "Hey Alan. Can I have some of your popcorn?" So he was an ENCOM employee after all, which means Flynn probably knew him before he got shitcanned.
Very very nice indeed. :)

if the Doctors say it was the best course of action then you'd have to believe them...
although myself, I'd have gotten on a payment plan with the hospital and had it done years ago, I've done it in the past myself before I got H.I...it isn't so bad, and saved the massive grief and added health issues the last 8-10 years had to have brought.
You have a hard road ahead friend, physical therapy is a bitch, and I wish you all the best in your recovery and new life.

Anyone else see those Marvel Comics Tron inspired covers littering the "office"? I know that the ARG blurred the lines of "real world" and "movie world" pretty good, but isn't this a bit much?
That said, if this is true... FUCK YES!!! RE-REZ RAM!!!!

it's still around 9pm on the west coast to those ahead. Anyway, I thought I'd give some praise to my favorite portrayal of any charaqter, Heath Ledger's interpretation of the Joker. I am saddened that your little girl Matilda won't have you around, but I am glad she has a couple of fliqs that are really great to remember you by.

I 2nd the comment. Fool me once, shame on you Disney, fool me twice, FUCK YOU isn't going to happen! You fucked up a great movie from my childhood. Let it die. Studios always have to fuck up the memories of good movies with shitty sequels. Jaws, The Matrix, Star Wars (1 thru 3 & 6), Die Hard, the list goes on. It's all about the almighty dollar. Well, your not getting mine next time bitches! Haha!

Hey man. Congrats on the back situation. Sometimes things work out. Sometimes things happen for a reason. Sometimes they don't. I am glad in your case they did.
It sucks that we live in a nation where you have to make decisions like that about your life and health. Especially when we are better able to afford a good system that other nations. I would think we deserve it.
As far a conspiracy or any others that want to talk trash, just ignore them. Its your life. You are the one who has to deal with the consequences of any decision that you make - good or bad. In this case it looks like it was a good decision.

also, I am not excited about Tron 3. Did we have a cool Tron battle? No. Did we have Flynn doing cool stuff no? Did it make some sort of sense, or be relevant to the present/upcoming tech (social network, AI)? Not really.
Instead it was just an intro to a cool kid and a hot girl that are rebel leaders inside the computer and fight the evil boss. Perfect for making toys, TV spin offs, etc etc.
Cash grab, pure and simple. Why not make it focused on Flynn creating the first true AI, but having to kill it because it was evil? Or the programs not understanding privacy and just acquiring data so it could grow? Why all the crap about re-purposing programs, unique DNA codes, "leaving the grid (originally only a game grid", a train to the impossible to reach light, no Tron, and a gay bartender?

...the fuck his name is.
Like a 12 year old girl they think they're being cool with the "quirky" way they type, instead they just end up sounding and seeming like the biggest and most pretentious douches you could ever run into on the net.
Hey, maybe they really are a 12 year old girl.
Hey Meadowe, have you figured out a way to dot your letter "i" with the heart symbol?
Coz that's all that's missing from your Teeny-bopper sounding posts.

They will break serious ground, mainly because they'd have a CGI Human as the star of the film acting in scenes with real people. If they pour all the money and work they did with CLU into TRON as the hero of the film they will truly set a precedent and they could do endless sequels(well not endless, the plot can only go so far). But still it would be a big deal and all the true fans would love it. Fuck Flynn, Tron is the savior of the grid. He fights for the users. It's his fucking franchise.

it is ham strung by the originals logic and representation of a computer. Think of it as a greek legend - that giants make mountains erupt and that thunder is the anger of the gods. In this sense we have little computer POEPLE doing things in a computer that are imbued with a persons souls or likeness.
It wsa never about technological innovation or a social commentary. If you want that read Asimov, watch Ghost in the Shell or Inception.
This was an adventures story pure and simple. I for one am pleased they made a seuel to Tron rather than Lawn Mower Man.

Thanks. It is very easy to criticise, harder to praise especially in such a name calling climate. There seemed to be alot of possitions taken before the film came out and it became a crusade by either the pros or cons. A lot of people called their possition then used arguments they came up with after to justify themselves.
Few seem able to write about what they actually liked or disliked. I think some people here use it as a football here to shout people down. I dont often post in talkbacks but do when I have an opinion, so most have either been in the Tron or Alien ones.
"The film sucked" does not seem to be a decent comment - all people can do is agree or disagree - no actual discussion. It is looking for alidation through others to support it.
I would like to know who says they hate it here but buys a copy when it is released as a DVD.

Quorra could've used an epilogue to make sense of what the fuck she would be good for in the the real world; Flynn Lives seems like part of Tron 2, not a third one, since it was about the mystery of what happened to Flynn; and after seeing Cillian Murphy in the boardroom it felt like there was more of him on the cutting room floor.
Also, since the filmmaking team had trouble stringing hundreds of scenes together to make a coherent story in Tron 2, I doubt they can do it with just three scenes for a sequel.

So this is either Alan's desk, or RAM's real-world counterpart will be written as the guy who asked Alan for popcorn in the first flick.
I'd think it was RAM's hideout - Alan's would've almost certainly had "GORT KLAATU BORADA NIKTO" on the wall somewhere.
Ace.

I always have to read these things three or four times before they make sense. Otherwise, this is awesome. I'm unsure about this idea of going public with Quorra, but the rest sounds great. Presumably, you mean.
Incidentally, bowl of popcorn in the second pic, to right hand side of the desk. Nice touch.

Allow me to join you on your love for David Warner. The man is indeed insanely talented and cool. And sadly, too underrated.
If he makes few movies, it seems because mostly his heart is into theater, and outside of theater he works mostly for british TV shows, like WALLANDER, where he played Kenneth Branagh's father.
But i would love to see David Warner in Tron 3. He and Cilliam Murphy as his son, they would both rule the scenes they would be in. Warner was very charismatic as TRON's bad guy (he also voiced the CPU villain), and he would also rule in the 3rd movie. Hell, him just showing up onscreen already rules it.
childs, it's news to me that Warner is seen as a hard man to work with. If anything, i have heard the very oppsite, that he's a gentleman and a very nice and affable guy. Maybe that rumour came about when he was working on a bad movie and doing a paycheck job and he saw through the bullshit and one day decided to not play the fool anymore with the bullshiters that surrounded him. You know how it is, it just takes one bad moment from somebody to be stamped for life.
I love David Warner.

awesome grammatical skills.
"Their most highest rated show is Chuck." That is from the TB regarding the Wonder Woman pilot that NBC ordered.
He hasn't said anything to me, but I just wanted to point out that I think he is a joyless asshole that feels like he must make others feel small in order to feel superior. I hope that is working for you Braindrain.
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In London, there's only 1 real IMAX screen - that's run by the BFI (British Film Institute) at Waterloo. They do a huge amount of screenings - including some shows starting after midnight!
They also have a great policy of shutting the doors and not letting anyone in after the film starts.
There is a FAKE IMAX in Wimbledon. It costs about £3 or £4 less than the real one. Which isn't quite worth the saving.
TRON is an amazing treat in a real IMAX theatre. Not just for the huge screen, and the 40 minutes that was shot to fill the entire screen - but also for the booming sound system :-)

I was at Long Beach Comic Con a few months ago (Halloween weekend to be exact) and I overheard Bruce tell a friend of mine about this shoot. He was doing it that next week. He mentioned it was to bridge the gap between 2 and 3 and was for the DVD/Blu-Ray release.
Not exactly NEWS from Harry's post but still.

Seriously. She is stunningly gorgeous, especially in her neon-blue trimmed skintight electro cat-suit. I hope Alice Glass has a cameo in TRON 3 too. Maybe they could make out during another awesome club scene. Quorra and Alice Glass all up in each other's stuff = HAWWWWWWWT!!!! I'd take that over Portman and Kunis' hot scene from the hysterically over-the-top unintentional comedy Black Swan.

He's a virtual memory now at this point and could be reconstructed with a virtual body (which could then be brought into the real world perhaps ala Qorra?). CLU could be the HYDE alternate personality within Flynn that ends up being split/ripped from the code if they decide to go that route and bring him back too (I'd be fine with that).

I mean, I know that feeling of geeky recognition when you rewatch a movie you like and notice extra details, like the talkbacker above who realized that popcorn-guy was RAM's user in the original movie. I watched the original TRON about 4 times before going to see TRON legacy, and didn't realize til the fourth watch why the hell it was so important for popcorn guy to ask for popcorn, and then I finally recognized his voice. RAM! It's RAM! But that was a nice little extra nugget in a film I was already enjoying a lot.
Now, Flynn did make a joke at the end of TRON where he says "Greetings, Programs!" to his employees, but there's something really grating about taking that joke and spinning it into some bizarre insistence on giving people nicknames based on the programs they wrote. Flynn really called Alan "Tron" after that, and called his ex girlfriend "Lora"? If I wrote an actuarial program, I'd hate to be called "Financial Planning 2.0" for the rest of my life. (not to mention that an actuarial program called "RAM" or "Random Access Memory" doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense in the first place).
What made the first TRON at all cool in the first place was ... the stuff it created originally that we remember it for. The reason EMPIRE was beloved as a sequel was because it expanded the world, instead of just referencing Star Wars and repeating all its beats. There was no Lando Calrissian in STAR WARS ... he was new! He referenced nothing in the previous film, and that's what made him good. Are we gong to be forced to watch RAM eat popcorn, in a tiring and pointless scene where he rambles on about caramel vs. cheese flavored ... that's not expansion, that's just wallowing. I've already been hoodwinked into seeing a bad boring movie once ... I'm not going to geek out twice, and this just doesn't sound as good as it might have. A detail like this has all the earmarks of Lucas's Prequels and Indian Jones and the Crystal Skull.

Tron 3?
So they already had a trilogy of this E-Turd in mind when releasing 2?
THE FUCK?
Since when does this movie deserve a trilogy all of a sudden?
Ill give them this tho - at least their trilogy production is quick....
Now lets do a Last Starfighter Trilogy...

... I'm so very happy for you. It's really awesome that you sticking it out for 15 years paid off, and paid off in spades! I think people don't realize how really primitive we are still in our ability to fix people. And since you've shared your story of that thing that ran you over, I've often, as a fan of your site, run that moment in my head over and over, and the horror of an unforeseen accident crippling a person. That that accident has been fixed ... well, it's just a great story.

As Drew Mcweeny (a.k.a. Moriarty) at Hitfix noted, the writing seems like it's designed for sequels. Which means they didn't bother writing enough to make a satisfying first film, they took whatever ideas they had and spread them out thinly over 3 films. Which sucks, in my opinion. It means that a lot of the writing is water-treading filler until the climactic action scene at the end of each, kinda like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies were after the first one. I wish that they'd honestly tried to just make one good awesome TRON sequel, but, alas, that ship has sailed, and I don't expect any creative upheavals in this "franchise" to inject it with the life that the first one had.

"I love weeeeeeeeeeed"
I swore I heard there was gonna be a Sir Smokealot movie back in the day, but then again, I swore there was gonna be a Potfest movie too... in this day and age, Im sure we can count on Chappelle to not do anything funny for us (DAMN YOU DAVE!!!!)
another note about Half Baked, supposebly Chapelle says the final movie turned out to be a kiddie movie of what he originally envisioned... which makes me curious as hell as to what was changed/edited/omitted

its not like he is writing an article about something, then hurriedly posts a comment that summarizes everything they just said... then top it off with a "giggle"
so Meadow, you queep up the good worq, fahq the haters... and spell kettle korn with a Qu!

he is a joyless asshole or whatever, but him feeling superior over others? fahq no!
IF ANYONE FEELS BELITTLED BY BRAINDRAIN, YOU DESERVE TO DIE AS MUCH AS BRAINDRAIN... that dude is stupid shit (his words, not mines) and if he can make you feel small, dumb, or whatever, you suq at your life as much as he does... and he really suqs at life

Merci DDA!! And I never said he WAS superior, just that he does what he does to maqe himself FEEL superior. He does indeed suq as you said. Fuq you Braindrain. Where's the fuqing banhammer when you need it?
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Go Meadowe!!

In the first movie those names were not acronyms except for RAM (Random Access Memory). CLU was the program that Flynn wrote to hack into mainframes to correct his bank statements and the MCP to find "CLUes" to prove that Dillinger had stolen his game programs (Space Paranoids, etc).
In TRON Legacy though, CLU is a different program with a different purpose - to create the perfect Grid. CLU here stands for Codified Likeness Utility.

thanks for elaborating, but even he knows he isnt superior to anyone... the qunt did refer to himself as stupid shit after all
I tell you what though, Im glad to see more people being voqal about his stupid shittiness... for a moment, I thought I was the only one who was gettin fed up with his dozens of useless posts

I haven't seen Tron: Legacy yet, so I prefer to stay spoiler free til I do, but why does a (not so hidden anymore) teaser for part 3 really matter so much?? Blah. Hey fellow geeks, peep my blog http://kungfutreachery.blogspot.com

...I wasn't even sure I'd see it, but a friend I was visiting last night wanted to, and I went along with it. I saw the original when it was released, and wasn't a big fan (though I liked the look and the Carlos score; Bridges was solid, but when is he not?). Never understood the cult for this movie, so I went in with low expectations, which were definitely exceeded. <p> What surprised me was the level of heart it had. I actually cared about Flynn, Quorra, and even Flynn's son (not an actor on a level with Bridges, natch, but good enough). Bridges is great, especially playing opposite himself at the climax. Olivia Wilde was more than the eye candy I anticipated, with an affecting, wistful curiosity about her. (Not that I'm complaining about Serinda Swan & the other Gem, as far as eye candy goes.) <p> The film has some lyrical moments of beauty (the sailer gliding through the night), the action's handled well, the Oz-like usage of the 3D is a nice touch, and the metaphysics gets a little deeper than the original. I miss Wendy Carlos, too, but the Daft Punk score was also better than I'd thought it'd be. (I also love the 2001-style bottom-lit rooms in Flynn's retreat). And I was touched by the final shot on the motorcycle as well, Flynn the son brooding over his father while Quorra looks at her new world in wonderment...I don't remember feeling anything after the first one, except admiration for the set design; but after this one, to my surprise, I did. For my money, it's quite a bit better than the original. <p> If I had to carp, I'd express a little puzzlement that Tron himself didn't have more to do, other than uttering his catchphrase and a couple of quick fights. That must suck if you're a fan, but I wasn't, so it just seemed a little odd. (Is Boxleitner just too old for action scenes? Couldn't they have deaged him, too, or put his face on another guy?) But other than that, I had a fine time with it. Thought you guys might be interested to hear what someone not invested in it thought.

Yeah, that is the main reason I posted what I did. I know there are some people on here that sort of irq me, but this dude taqes the caqe!! I qould no longer be quiet. You know, of all the folqs on here that we may joqe about living in the basements of their parents, I think ol' Braindrain may be the one that aqtually does!!
Lovin' them q's man!!!

I echo your sentiments on Legacy 100%. Mai waifu and I both went in not expecting much but came away from it with the same feelings you did... it's now one of our favorite films. What's really awesome about it is that she barely remembers the first film and wants to see it again (I'm making her wait for the blu-ray release of the original as well as Legacy) whereas I know the original pretty much chapter and verse.
Everything you said about how Legacy affected you is spot on with our experience, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next chapter in the story.
Just wanted to letcha know that you aren't alone. :)

...especially since my memories of the original are not strong (don't think I've ever seen it since, even on cable....although it's a level on some version of Kingdom Hearts my goddaughter plays, so that rang a faint bell ("Oh, yeah, that's the MCP...) My memories are so faded I'd forgotten who the old guy on the board of directors was till the credits ("That was Bruce Boxleitner?")). Really, the only thing I remember vividly was the city-as-grid final shot and some of the Carlos score. So it's nice to have someone who knows the first "chapter and verse" agree with me. Glad your fond memories of the first were joined by fond new ones; I wish that happened more often.
(And can I add (as I forgot to the first time) that I enjoyed the Cabaret-style, Thin White Dukish bar owner? Funny, menacing, and not the type of character I was expecting to see in this at all. Did we ever see any of Tron's world outside of the games in the first one? I honestly don't remember...)

I knew i had seen that face before (RAM)...
My take on TRON Legacy? yeah i was so pissed the first time i went to see it, so many things done wrong with such a beautifully crafted world and costumes... what was the point of the sirens being locked up?..etc...
Needed way more of GEM.. and Quorra..
Coulda watched 2 hours of Quorra cleaning house for Flynn in her catsuit and would have felt like money well spent...

a retard is never too old for school... and sadly for Ryan, he isn't allowed on the short bus because even his presence makes mentally challenged people more stupid
I really wish Ryan's mom couldve done a better job on her abortion... apparently, the wire hanger didnt do the job good enough
PS: Ryan hates the letter Q because its hard for him to write it in cursive... poor stupid shit

like I was tryin to say...
if this is Aint It Idiot News (couldnt you at least find a degrading C word, stupid shit?), then wouldnt you be on the top of the idiot chart seeing as you post dozens of useless posts in EVERY TB? even Scottpilgrimfan admires your persistence when it comes to posting, and he was a SPAMMER
in short, commit suicide or at least make a new handle and stay under the stupid shit radar

no, I am not here 24 hours a day. I think it would be impossible seeing as I do have to use the bathroom and sleep and console your mother about the abomination she concieved...
I dont "whine" about other TBers... I make factual statements about you and you only. I mean, have you even ever denied being dumb or like you call it, a stupid shit?
speaking of whining, are you still whining about a hit popular show (the Office) still being on?
please Ryan the Retard, learn how to defend yourself. when your mother dies and you have no basement to dwell in, how will you survive? they just dont give out free internet and money to stupid shits like you (unless you're related to a Kardashian)

and braindrain replies, that does mean he is indeed, a retard named Ryan, right?
I know I wouldnt reply to a post titled "yourgaydaddy" or "yourfatdaddy" or etc
so folqs, remember to address braindrain by his new name, Ryan the Retard. he obviously has no problem with the name

...that last post directed to Ryan the Retard will be my last post addressin that stupid shit. this is gonna be my (4 Weeks Late) New Years Resolution. hopefully, it will last longer than my resolution to stop smoking

I, too, will no longer address this idiot asshole that is so so miserable he can't even disquss a movie. He only comes here to put down what everyone else here has to say or spout some negative bullshit. Fuq Ryan the Retard. Oh, and that was SOME putdown you came up with there Ryan. Hell, I think even old Harry could school you in grammar. Miserable fuq.
Thanks for the kind words Yourstepdaddy.
Looking forward to Tron 3 by the way.

"Your wife rolled over and told me that you smell really bad and your kids are lame."
1. I am single. How does insulting a nonexisting wife of mines, hurt my feelings?
2. why do you care how another man smells? unless of course, you like smelling men. If I do stink, Im sure the smell isnt strong enough to travel through the internet. Besides, the most popular actor (for girls) these days is Edward from Twilight and there are numerous reports he stinks yet he has millions of girls in love with him. I would love to stink too if it meant I could make millions of dollars and have my pick of females around the world.
3. I dont have kids, but if I did, I really wouldnt care if they were lame. As long as they stay outta trouble and are safe, I could care less what you call them (unless you call them Ryan the Retard, then I would be peeved)
serious Ryan the Retard, youre fuckin retarded. in the Matrix TB you clearly demonstrated your inability to read/understand/comprehend the English language. like are you purposely trying to make yourself look like stupid shit? did a friend bet you that you couldnt be the most retarded person ever?
with that said, I am restartin my resolution again. go back to the Matrix TB where everyone is pointing out your retardedness

"did a friend bet you that you couldnt be the most retarded person ever?"
I laughed and laughed at that. I'm still laughing!! Braindrain pwned us I see. So diox is now the student? Braindrain is actually going to TEACH someone something? Man, put that down in the history books.

I just watched the movie 10000 times as a kid and the voice always sounded like RAM to me.
According to this tron wiki:
http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Popcorn_Co-Worker
the character was played by the same actor, but they argue that since RAM is an actuarial program his user could be someone else. (possibly written by this guy and sold )
Meh... either way I hope Ram is in the 3rd one.
I still think a huge opportunity was missed to have a scene where CLU is collecting his armies and we find out he is secretly restoring the MCP.
That would have been a proper mind fuck.

...I just went on record as saying I enjoyed Tron: Legacy, and that the first one didn't leave much of an imprint on my mind. Yet I've read a lot of posts here trashing Legacy and praising the original. So I'm wondering: what was so great about the first that you hate the second so much? And if I may, I'd like just a little more than "It rocked & this sucked". When Tron becomes available again (it's my understanding that it's not currently), I'm thinking about seeing it again. Should I? Why? I'm open to the possibility that it's a better film than I (barely) remember, so let me know your reasons, if you would. I'm genuinely curious. Thanks in advance to any who respond.

...they were called in to help on an EDITORIAL level. After everything was shot and a cut was screened. Suggesting ways to tighten/cut/add/reshoot.
Much like Lucas got suggestions from Spielberg and a few others after screening Phantom Menace for them.
But -- as you know from that movie too -- once something's in the can, there's only so much you can do with the raw material.

First off I absolutely love Tron. The original was and still is awesome. It actually does hold up pretty well. But I want to talk more about the newest film, which seems like you either love it or hate it...
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My biggest gripe with the film is the costumes. I think there should should just be more lights on the costumes. I went to watch it in 3D yesterday before it leaves theaters and I just wanted more illumination on the characters themselves. They don't have to look like their 1982 counterparts but I would have like more light scheme on the suits like in the neck and collar regions as well as the hands and legs. The look of the film is awesome though. The Grid itself is what I would have expected it to look like, even though the server the actual grid is on is from 1989. Imagine what a grid made from today would look like?
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I would like to see what a visual representation of the internet looks like. As for the story, I guess a lot of people didn't like it for some reason, said the script was shoddy. I thought it was very layered and subtle. There was exhibition in the film but for people who hadn't seen the original, they wouldn't know what they're seeing. So yeah the writers had to compensate. I want to see if Bridges comes back. All the actors were very good in their roles. I think Garrett Hedlund did a great job as the abandoned son very well. He's obviously not as charasmatic as Bridges' Flynn but he does well with what he's given.
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One thing I did want to see more of is the title character. With a movie titled as Tron, you definitely want to see whats up with Tron. The scenes he was in kicked some serious ass though. Just want to see more Boxleitner as Tron the next time out, especially since they left it open for a sequel at the end there. The first time I saw the movie, the twist caught me by surprise but I guess you could catch it if you're really paying attention.
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Overall, I had a lot of fun and this movie exceeded my expectations. Don't know why half the people who saw it hated it since the film does leave me wanting more, especially since Cillian Murphy is playing a Dillinger and the seeming promise of seeing David Warner reprising his role. It's looking good for Tron.

I feel about TRON LEGACYA pretty much the say way you do. I was also carried to watch the movie ona friend's enthusiasm, and i don't regreat a single second of it. As you said, i really was suprised by how good the acting was, specially Olivia Wilde as Chorra, who became my favorite character inthe movie.
And the final shot with Chorra looking at the sun for the first time was the emotional highlight of the film.
What i wasn't expecting from TRON LEGACY wa, as you called, it so much heart in it. The other thing that was also a pleasant suprise was the melancolic mood it had. and they did the melancolic mood very well. i ararely see in Holylwood blockbusters they go for melancoly or even achieve it right when it's the intent. But the filmmakers of TRON LEGACY did it very well. To find it in a movie about people living inside computers is an unexpected pleasure.
I say, people who bash TRON LEGACY are heartless. There has to be something very wrong when somebody hails an heartless cynical hack job like Jar Jar Abrams's TRASH TREK and desmisses and bashes such an honest full of heart movie like TRON LEGACY.

I like the first TRON moive. I'm not fanatic about it, but i have a tremendous respect for it and the filmmakers who made it. It's one of the few Disney movies which i see and don't feel my intelligence insulted by the typical condescending way that Disney makes movies (the other Disney movies i love are DRAGONSLAYER and THE BLACK HOLE).
So, i like the first TRON and i also like the sequel TORN LEGACY. I'm not one of those who because i love the first hates the sequel. I'm not a mega fan of the first TRON movie, to be sure. I don't have it's poster, etc. I don't have it in DVD either. But i like it fine, i can rewatch it anytime. I liked the first, i liked the sequel.
So, i'm hardly one of those who "likes the firs,t hates the sequel". In fact, i find it strange that it happens.

its ambition much more than its execution. The story is fairly lame, and the characters are simply uninteresting imho. I think its fairly clear Lisberger is not much of a director of live action.
He seems to be more of an animation guy.
Anyway, I liked TL way more, clunky script aside. The visuals were amazing, and the score is awsome.
Imho the first 30 mins were the best part of the film. Went a bit downhill from there (not because it got slower, but just because thats when the script problems become evident).
Like you Asi, i loved the end moment when Quorra looks at the sun. Really beautiful scene.
For me one of my issues was the way the film seemed a little pre-occupied with setting up a third film. It often seemd like we just being teased for the next film. Imho a film should focus on its story first and foremost without the anticipation/setting up of a sequal.
But those gripes aside, it was both fun and cool.

I have not been much in here lately, true. most of the news that AICN shows hav enot interested that much for me to coment on. Though i had to make coments about TRON LEGACY and the idiots who disliked it and prefer Jar Jar Abrams's REDNECK TREK over it.

...we seem to be in close agreement on Legacy, which makes your (slightly qualified) appreciation on the original Tron more convincing. Thanks for your thoughts. And the same for southafricanguy, though you weren't directly responding to me. The chances of my checking out the first movie again have measurably increased...

The funny thing about the original TRON is that at the same time it's an atypical disney movie is does reflect much of the mood and way the movies made in the late 70s and early 80s were made. This movies reflected a new fashion of 80s movies in going more light-weighted and commercial, while at th same time they still retained some ocasional darker aspects of the movies from the 70s.
Though TRON is a very light hearted and happy-go-lucky movie, soemtimes it does show quite some darker aspects. The programs that get killed many times do so with screams of agony that are all too human-like. There's also scenes of torture and malevolance. And all this for a kid's movie.
TRON is a unique movie, but it's also a mpovie of it's time. Watching it is also watching a time capsule of a fascinating time of Holywood filmmaking, specially Disney. When Disney left the 70s and in the early 80s, they didn't knew where to stand, and thus, they took challenges and chances with their movies. And they made soem of their best ever movies thanks to that: TRON, DRAGONSLAYER and THE BLACK HOLE.
I see TRON LEGACY as a continuation of that adventerous spirit that went to filmmaking by Disney. TRON LEGACY corresponsdes because it's one of the few new blockbusters made whoich cares as much about characters and the acting and to establish a mood which is atypical to most blockbusters of recent times. As such, it shares the spirit of the first film. The thing you called "heart", which is true. And i can't help but appreciate it.
I don't love either TRON or TRON LEGACY, but i enjoyed them quite a lot, and i can defend them until kingdom come.

Yeah, True Grit was good as was Social Network but Legacy was the only film last year that I had to see 3 times in the theater. If you hated it, bummer for you. Still letdown that Harry couldn't squeeze it on his 2011 top ten list yet he gets giddy with every new Tron story. Let me guess, it was #11? I've praised and analyzed Legacy on other talkbacks so I won't bother doing it again here. I hope the same team is involved in the sequels. They already know how to edit, pace and create a great Tron film so keep 'em all onboard (yes, even the screenwriters!). Tron Legacy had more heart and sould than any summer blockbuster in years!

Am I crazy? Maybe. But calling The Social Network a masterpiece is stretching the truth a bit. I finally watched it a week ago and found it an interesting, well made "movie of the week" story about a nerdy douchebag who got lucky. Really lucky. I love David Fincher btw but Social Network was no classic. Sorry.

Wanted to see it once more before it left the theaters. Was still pleased. A few things just didn't work for me and still don't work--Clu's weird digitalness. The "he's building an army" trope. No reveal of Tron's face before his guns down Clu (spoiler alert, um). Still feels like the script didn't cook quite long enough . . . That being said, still love it, will by the Blu-ray immediately upon release, will watch it a dozen more times to see if my opinion changes. Will be there, first week, if Tron 3 comes out. With RAM and more Tron and maybe some Yori? And maybe some David Warner (or, film gods, please, some digital Sark?). Yes, please.

I also loved Tron Legacy. Of course, I'm a huge fan of the original Tron (I think it is a brilliant film, and have watched it more than any other film I own--probably approaching 100 times). But I watched the opening sequence to JJ. Trek a few days ago, and would have liked to watch the whole thing, just didn't have time. Still not quite with the casting of Chris Pine as Kirk (dunno why), not big on his choice as Sulu (Daniel Dae Kim would have been better) but the rest I loved, liked the pacing, liked the direction--and it was the best Trek movie I've seen since Wrath of Kahn (not as good or as surprising as Kahn, but, still, I've been disappointed with every Trek movie, starting with Search for Spock).
Tron Legacy as imperfect, surely, but I liked what I saw, and really look forward to what these people would do with a 2nd and 3rd movie. Amazing it turned out as well as it did, given that this was Kosinski's first feature film.

Tron was in the WHOLE MOVIE! Rinzer we found out IS TRON. There were even FLASHBACKS of Tron HELPING Flynn out! And best yet, they EVEN hinted that Tron was due to come back FULL ON as Tron for the sequel! Hopefully, theres a LOT more of Bruce as Tron in the next movie, after all, the movie is called Tron. That was my only complaint- more of Tron the character!

Seriously man, you are missing NOTHING. 3D is just a gimmick and it's basically overstaying it's welcome right now. It adds nothing to the movie going experience. In fact I feel it interferes with the movie. I hated Tron, but I feel the movie experience could've been improved had I seen it in 2D.
Personally, if I want to see a movie, then I'll seek out the 2D version above the 3D!

"I Loved the New J. J. Abrams Trek"
It's not my fault! Honest!
OK, kidding aside, allow me to share your opinion about the casting as Chris Pine as Kirk. for a long time i though that it wasn't his fault that Kirk was so bad in the movie. Mostly i blamed the script and Abram's direction. I though that poor Pine just did what was on the page, exactly. But i'm not so sure anymore. The more i watch this actor, the less i like him.
Overall, i liked the casting of BREWERY TREK. The movie is filled with good interesting actors. If anything, the actor i have the major problem with is the one most fell inlove with, even if due to another movie: Zoe Saldana. Her beauty is beyond question. And in person and in interviews she seems like a very nice person. But her portait of uhura was beyond wrong. and i do blame much of it on her because in her own words, Saldana said that in the script she was nothing, no development or character whatsoever, so she and her mother come up with the character themselves. And the end result is a scheming advancing through the ranks by sleeping with the man in charge whore of a Uhura.
The characters as shown in the movie are parody and amockery of their classic versions. Kirk is like a version of Tom Cruise from TOP GUN, a malcontent stupid asshole who gets ahead not on merit but connections and incredible luck. Not to mention he's the punniest fighter in the whole of the galaxy.
Spock is a teenager mommy boy.
Bones spends the whole movie paraquoting from the TOS movies and shows.
Sulu is a fucking liar. Only at the last moemnt he remind sot inform his fight training only extende to fencing? And then the movie shows him SWORDFIGHING? Which is with he learned, fencing or swordfighing?).
Chekov is a running joke about wacky foreing accents. The Bush voting rednecks in Ignorania, USA must have loved that shit.
Scotty only moment was him taking a free water-ride through the Enterprise's brewery cooling system. A moment that serves no porpose whatsoever in the whole plot.
i supposed there was a Captain Pike in ther,e but all i saw was Bruce Greenwood being Bruce Greenwood paradig nhis screen charisma and considerable acting talents for a easy paycheck.
Poor Eric Bana! Playing the most banal, dumbed down, defanged, pathetic impersonation of Kahn since ever. But i gues the paycheck was good and useful, since he's in nee dof cash to rebuild his beloved "Beast", a Ford Falcon he wons since he's 16 and which he crashed when racing in Tasmania.
And don't even talk to me about the red shirt that died during the parashutting scene, becaus that has to be the most stupid way a redshirt was ever killed in the whole history of STAR TREK. The whole of Star Trek!
As for good pacing, just because a filmmaker fast cuts a movie doesn't make it exciting or fast paced. It just makes it fast cut. Which is a mistake, becaus eof you speed cut through the whole movie, it becames a monotonous mess. Which the movie is.
As for good directing, there's none of that to be found there. Showing off a bunch of lens flares do not good filmmaking makes. The look of the movie is inconsistent and all over the place. The camera work is lamentable, everything is close ups without a single good establishing show that is not just a mere show off. The actors act as if they are drifting through the script, which they were. Good direcing in BREWERY TREK? That's a myth, not reality.
You claim that BREWERY TREK is the best Trek movie since KAHN. No, BREWERY TREK is the worst Trek movie ever made. I can tell this shit was made by the same guy who wrote ARMAGEDDON and REGARDING HENRY. The dumbed down melodrama bullshit of REGARDING HENRY with the filmmaking retarded ineptitude of ARGAMADDON, all mixed in one movie for our pleasure.
No, friend, BREWERY TREK is the very worst Trek movie ever made. It's vapid and dumbed down. No Trek movie was ever tha,t not completly. Even the much maligned STAR TREK 5 and TNG: NEMESIS (two movies i don't fancy much, mind you) at least have a theme, characterization and a story to them. And both are movies which clearly were made by peopel who actually made an effort to make a good movie. Not so BREWERY TREK. No story worth of it's name, no characterization, no theme, totally dumbed down.
Nothing in BREWERY TREK impressed me. Nothing. Everything in it insulted me as a movie geek, as a SF fan, as a person. I'm not a trekkie. The only ST show i have seen it whole is TOS. but i have a deep respect for TOS and i like it quite a lot. I love the characters, i love the universe it created. I love the stories. I love how presentation of the themes. I love it's intelligence and storytelling quality.
BREWERY TREK reads like a harsh parody of TOS made by people who really destested the show and made a whole movie as a take that on it.

because so far as i can tell,the only really good proper 3D movie has been TRON LEGACY. Even AVATAR, which did a very good subtle and judicial use of the technique, became incredibly tiresome after the 90 minute mark. And the least said about the 3D of CLASH OF THE TITANS remake the better.
Frankly, i don't think you are missing all that much. At worst it's a fucking anoying gimmick used by inept incompetent filmmakers to make their movies look more special then they are, at best it doesn't help the storytelling all that much.

"People who liked Tron 2 really didn't like it for the story"
Speak for yourself.
"... and I can say this because there was no story."
I hope you are not one of Jar Jar Abram's STUFF HAPPENS TREK, because what you said would come out very ironic.
"They also weren't all that into the performances because there weren't any real performances either"
Speak for yourself. If you can't find the fine performance in TRON LEGACY, that's your problem not the movie's. If ther eis one thing this movie can't be faulted is the acting, far above and beyond the call of duty as found in the vast majority of Hollywood SFX blockbuster stravaganzas.
"Nope, they came for the light show aided by a Daft Punk sound track"
Inicially, yeah. That was the hook. but the audiences stayed for the story, characters and damn good filmmaking.
"Just do the the light show part again but stop wasting your time trying to tell a story"
And that's what is wrong with 90% of the blockbusters being made today in Holywood. It's great that TRON LEGACY went for that. It's nice that TRON LEGACY has ambitions beyond that type of simpleton filmmaking that you are advocating. Of cours,e if people want simpleton dumbed down SFX shows with no story or character, they can always tune in to Jar Jar Abrams' BULLSHIT TREK.
"Yeah alright maybe just a light show won't sell. Audiences can't admit it to themselves that that's all they're there for"
Speak for yourself.
"People need faces saying things to make it all legit."
Like in cartoons and animation films?
"I guess what I'm pushing for though is for you to keep it basic, minimimal, and not distracting."
Meaning, dumbed down and stupid. Speak for yourself, buddy.
"Make it simpler Tron 3 and you'll make a billion dollars for sure!"
Or the biggest flop in history. Look at INCEPTION, a complex intelligent movie which made a bundle at the box office. Why? Because people actually want to watch smart adventure movies, as proved mostly by that movie's INTERNATIONAL BOX OFFICE NUMBERS. And so far, only Nolan is cornering the market of intelligent blockbusters. Me, i would like to see more filmmakers take a bite at that. Like the filmmakers of TRON LEGACY.

i know what a great acting performance is, thank you very mich. I dind't said, or wanted to imply that there are great performances in TRON LEGACY, but there are pretty good performances in the movie. The one that impressed me the most wa solivia Wilde as Chorra. but to deny there aren't good acting in TRON LEGACY is foolhardy.
It's one thing to dislike a movie, it's another to deny an acting quality from an actor where there is one. It's like me with Jar Jar Abrams's SHIT TREK, i dislike that movie tremendously, but just ebcause of that doesn't mean i'm going to say zachary Quinto did a bad acting job in the movie, when on the contrary he did a good job (it was his character which was terribly writen, but that's another matter).
TRON LEGACY has good acting throughand through. Better then expected from a SFX showfeast like this movie.
I don't compain about TON LEGACY story as you do. I don't see it as a terrible story. It isn't. i like dthe story. It goes on different paths then i expected from a TRON sequel, but what is i like it. There's mor einot the story then at first sight might indicate, but better then all that, the story has an heart, which the actors and the filmmakers were able to transpose onscreen.
I liked TRON LEGACY. i don't love it. But i cna defend it till kingdom come. I found myself in great sympathy with the movie, flaws and all.
And the very thing that makes me like and support and defend TRON LEGACY are the things that most hit to my soul: the movie has a soul, has an heart, and suprisingly for a Holywood blockbuster (and double suprising from a movie that came from The House Of Mouse) it's very sucessful at presenting a melancolic mood, which almost no Holywood movie can do or are unwilling to do.
I like TRON LEGACY for the same reason i dislike Jar Jar Abram's SHIT TREK. TRON LEGACY has the very qualities that are completly absent from the later. A movie doesn't need to be a masterpiece for me to like it. Being good suffices.

That's a pretty healthy result for a movie. The movie has legs. And more interestingly, the majority share of the obx office cames from international box office. This means that the movie has an appeal that crosses over the seas and appeals to foreigners as well. This is good. Contrast with Jar Jar Abrams'sa REDNECK TREK who had 2/3rds of the box office from domestic.
When a movie has mor money poured in form the international box office, it means it has crossed over other cultures and make an impact there. That's good filmmaking. Films are for the world and not just to be the province of a single country. Good filmamkers make movies that appeal worldwide, instead of just a limited appeal to a one country only. TRON LEGACY is that, a movie with universal appeal.

It was just a story some people didn't like. I get that this wasn't some people's cup of tea, but the inferrence that people who did like this movie are idiots is as insulting as it is moronic. A difference of opinion does not equal stupidity. Conversely I don't condone when people make the same argument about people who didnt like this movie. People aren't stupid becaue they liked or didn't like a damn movie. There's far better reasons for such a declaration. I found Bridges', Wilde's and Hedlund's performances to be quite good. I thought the story was engaging and an excellent set-up for a sequel.
I was amused by the folks that spoke on behalf of Disney, stating how displeased the execs were at how "poorly" this movie was performing. I also liked all the breakdowns of how much this movie "really cost" to make thus ensuring plans for a sequel were "dead". If ya don't like a movie, fine, but don't frame the rest of the world's thoughts, feelings, and actions based on your dislike of something. Anyways, I think it's super cool that a movie that's 28 years old and nearly forgotten (by most of the world) is suddenly back with multiple movies.

Clu's rallying the troops scene was phenomenal. Orcus hasn't checked out a normal 3D viewing though to do a comparison. For Orcus at least, the 3D effect works best if you are at the back of the theater. That and you go to a quality theater in the first place makes a world of difference, no mall theaters please

Let me tell you soemthing about TRON LEGACY: notice that about 55-60% opf the movie's box office results came form abroad. This means that the movie is connecting with audiences everywhere in the world. This means that there is somethingin the movie that is connecting with people all over the world, that the movie has an universal appeal. That's a good thing. that's soemthing rarely an Holywood blockbuster mannages to achieve, INCEPTION excluded.
I'm a foreigner. I'm portuguese. And the movie connected to me in a way i wouldn't had ever guessed. I didn't just felt like a passive watcher, but i was engaged with the story, the characters and the melancolic mood of the movie. It was a pleasant suprise. Box offcie doesn't equate with quality. But it equates with popularity and acceptance. And TRON LEGACY is a movie that's been quite liked all over the world. That's a very admirable quality right there.
I don't love TRON LEGACY, but i quite liked it. and that's enough to merit a strong defense of it agaisn ther neysayers which, frankly, for me have not yet given a convincing argument to suport their side of the argument.

The normal 3D was very good too. I rate the 3D of TRON LEGACY to be the best i have ever seen, surpassing even the one in AVATAR. It was the only 3D movie made so far which didn't gave me eye sore and a migrane. Kudos for that.

At Tron-Sector.com.
3D could have been better, but we're RealD or Dolby or some crap that doesn't really look that great anywhere. I've seen Imax 3D at the Kennedy Space Center, and that stuff looked awesome. So, I know Malco (local theater chain) could be doing better, but they aren't, and aren't going to, since they are the only game in town, basically.
I wonder if we'll know the total numbers for Tron:Legacy, but I'm betting with TV sales, ad revenue, Blu-Ray and so on, it might actually *just* merit a sequel.
Keeping my fingers crossed.

Orcus saw Avatar in Real3D and it worked OK. The initial space sequence and the HUD's in the offices were really noticeable. Everything else was Meh, nothing to write home about.
The theater that Orcus saw Avatar, although it was a digitally projected, something just seemed off. Maybe it wasn't bright enough, who knows. If you are gonna shell out the extra bucks, seek out a quality theater, not one who just lopped on the 3D projection system as an afterthought
Toy Story 3, although the movie was enjoyable, the 3D did not bring anything new to the party. Orcus could have seen the 2D version and not miss anything.
The quality of the theater has a big impact, for the IMAX 3D movies, Orcus went to the Lincoln Center theater in NYC, the only true IMAX screen in Manhattan. It was supposedly designed from the ground up for that purpose. The 4 story tall screen is no joke.

First time I was there opening night, Imax. Total Tron nerd with way too much build-up and expectations. First reaction ... meh. Decided to go see it again yesterday, this time with much lowered expectations and low and behold, I actually really liked it. I think this is definitely a movie that gets better with repeated viewings.
My biggest criticism the first time around was not enough Tron. But this time, without the expectation of a big face reveal at the end, I actually appreciated Tron's part in the story much more. Sure, it could have been handled much better and no doubt the sequel will. But all in all I walked out feeling very satisfied. Tron 2 is a good movie. First review: 6 out of 10. Second review: 8 out of 10.

gem (superhawt blondie) could "rerez" for - she seemed like a wayward waif anyways; have her be yori's "legacy" (she could be a navigator).
ready for that dvd; want to order that and finally maybe doubledip on that "darkstar."