In the photo at the base of the article, does anyone know who is the guy in the middle separating Giles and Dunphy ?

Not sure but i remember watching Dunphy playing for Millwall a cultured footballer stood out in that club, Keith Weller also played for Millwall at this time.

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I remember Keith Weller playing on the left wing for Chelsea in the 60's - speedy and useful he was too. Cannot remember what he looked like though. So no doubt you will have gathered I don't know who the fella in the middle is.

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

(No, I won't be going on Mastermind to answer questions on Shamrock Rovers. I just know how to Google.....).

Thanks guys. Didn't have a clue who it was when I first viewed the photo but Ray Treacy is correct .

Giles, Dunphy and Treacy all played for Shamrock Rovers in the League of Ireland in the late 70's after their return from England. After his playing days were over Treacy went into the Travel business and Giles and Dunphy carved out a very long career as pundits on an Irish version of Match of the Day.

Veo, to his mates. Shares 50% of his DNA with a banana. Would dearly love to strangle Frankengoose. Lo! Be he not ye Messiah, verily be he a child of questionable conduct in the eyes of Ye Holy Border Guards.

It is coming up for seven years now since John Terry found himself in the dock of Westminster magistrates court on charges of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand and, though I could never say sitting through that week-long trial was a particularly fulfilling experience, there is one memory that offers some light relief amid all the other numbing details.

It goes back to the penultimate day, when Terry was being taken through some of the evidence related to his exchange of words with Ferdinand, then of QPR, and having to repeat some of it for the benefit of the court. Terry was obediently following the instructions, albeit not looking absolutely sure what purpose it served, until he was asked to let the court know the number of times he had been sent off throughout his Chelsea career.

“Can you say – please – four times?” asked his QC, George Carter-Stephenson. At which point Terry nodded again. “Please … please … please … please.” And even now, all these years on, I am still not absolutely sure he understood why the courtroom was filled with awkward laughter.

Very droll indeed Doc. Well-a...Well-a.....Well-a thought he might have had at least one bad habit. D'yer never notice he had a very clean nose . . . . .

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

Veo, to his mates. Shares 50% of his DNA with a banana. Would dearly love to strangle Frankengoose. Lo! Be he not ye Messiah, verily be he a child of questionable conduct in the eyes of Ye Holy Border Guards.

There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

And Leeds' cultured fans could be visiting a ground near you next season.

Oh joy abounding . . . . And you too!!

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

And Leeds' cultured fans could be visiting a ground near you next season.

" Who Let the Dogs Out ? "

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Why does that conjure up the thought of a Yorkshire Terrier humping a passerby's leg?

Well your turn ons are your own business.

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

I've always thought about it's origins. My Dah's side are South Enders and ended up in Childwall Valley. I do remember me Nan saying because Bootle is up in the North End and it's so far away hence the fuck off bit. I always thought it was about Bootle getting bombed to fuck during the war.

I reckon me Nan knows more than me though.

There's a thread for this stuff by the way.

Just catching up, here, Kes. I think that expression ....used frequently by my own Nan....comes from the fact that the main Catholic cemetery, the Ford Cemetery, was in Bootle. In effect, she was saying ‘drop dead’, or ‘go to hell’. That’s always been my take on it, anyway.

Just catching up, here, Kes. I think that expression ....used frequently by my own Nan....comes from the fact that the main Catholic cemetery, the Ford Cemetery, was in Bootle. In effect, she was saying ‘drop dead’, or ‘go to hell’. That’s always been my take on it, anyway.

He was the only player I can remember playing in white tights on a freezing day, when he was with Leicester. John Barnes, of course, played in black ones. Whatever happened to that habit..?

He went to Leicester from Millwall. Millwall had a decent team for a while then including a decent CB called Barry Kitchener and a fans favourite slightly dodgy WB called Harry Cripps .

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

Tommy was as 'Liverpudlian' as they come. A great player, but one of us. He played judge, jury & executioner on the field, he couldn't abide cheats. There's a video doing the rounds right now of him 'taking out' Allan Clarke of Leeds. Now, Allan was a great player, but could be a snide, he liked to leave his studs down the back of your leg. Tommy meted justice out to him & his ilk, no messing, and the crowd loved him all the more for it.

I don't know if Leo comes on to these pages any more, I haven't seen much of him since he got sick. I think he had his 'run ins' with Tommy, but I think they were both sides of the same coin, both proper Liverpudlians.

Anyway, back to the family's eulogy, it really touched me. Behind the fame was an ordinary lad who face the same struggles as the rest of us. But you were loved, Tommy, of that you can be sure. RIP

Tommy was as 'Liverpudlian' as they come. A great player, but one of us. He played judge, jury & executioner on the field, he couldn't abide cheats. There's a video doing the rounds right now of him 'taking out' Allan Clarke of Leeds. Now, Allan was a great player, but could be a snide, he liked to leave his studs down the back of your leg. Tommy meted justice out to him & his ilk, no messing, and the crowd loved him all the more for it.

I don't know if Leo comes on to these pages any more, I haven't seen much of him since he got sick. I think he had his 'run ins' with Tommy, but I think they were both sides of the same coin, both proper Liverpudlians.

Anyway, back to the family's eulogy, it really touched me. Behind the fame was an ordinary lad who face the same struggles as the rest of us. But you were loved, Tommy, of that you can be sure. RIP

Honest and straight from the heart. Nuff said

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There is nothing wrong with striving to win, so long as you don't set the prize above the game. There can be no dishonour in defeat nor any conceit in victory. What matters above all is that the team plays in the right spirit, with skill, courage, fair play,no favour and the result accepted without bitterness. Sir Matt Busby CBE KCSG 1909-1994

The last few months have been a nightmare, Massive Vertigo attacks that were diagnosed as Meneire's Disease which is nasty and permanent, however after eventually seeing a Neurology consultant and after some tests last monday I was told i dont have that disease i had a Virus which has similar symptoms but only last for 6-8 weeks and i am clear now.

Told me i could drive and get back to work and also stop taking the meds straight away.

Can't tell you how happy i am about getting my life back now.

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The last few months have been a nightmare, Massive Vertigo attacks that were diagnosed as Meneire's Disease which is nasty and permanent, however after eventually seeing a Neurology consultant and after some tests last monday I was told i dont have that disease i had a Virus which has similar symptoms but only last for 6-8 weeks and i am clear now.

Told me i could drive and get back to work and also stop taking the meds straight away.

Can't tell you how happy i am about getting my life back now.

Was it labyrinthitis?

Very nasty but does wear off. I picked up an ear virus in Italy a couple of years ago which was no fun but that cleared up after a month or two.

Very nasty but does wear off. I picked up an ear virus in Italy a couple of years ago which was no fun but that cleared up after a month or two.

yes it was thank goodness.

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The National Pensioners Convention (NPC) is the principal organisation representing pensioners in the United Kingdom. It is made up of around 1,000 bodies representing 1.5 million members, organised into federal regional units.The NPC was founded by former Transport and General Workers' Union trade union leader, Jack Jones in 1979