edit: This mat has now been made into an Epic quality mat, up from just Rare quality O.o

Commentaire de Leepi

Hopefully this will be obtainable from other than raiding but with how epic gems are going to be received from bosses, I highly doubt they will be.

Edit: The epic gems are transmutable.

Commentaire de halflife

Probably obtained just like embers which means I'll see like 3 or 4 pieces of the new crafted gear on the auction house over the course of several months like the old fail firelands patterns

Commentaire de rnbw

Hopefully this will be obtainable from other than raiding but with how epic gems are going to be received from bosses, I highly doubt they will be.

Why? This is new gear on par with the highest tier in the next patch (4.3), so it would be silly if you could obtain them outside of raiding, in my eyes. And if they're not going to be Bind on Pickup, you can just buy them off the Auction House, like the Living Embers.

Commentaire de Towerarcher

So non raiders can delete their professions right ? Sorry.I want be able to craft some epic gems and make money too.

Commentaire de pewpewx

You can probably farm for it non-stop using the LFR tool.

Commentaire de psathyanhome

where did u see that epic gems are transmutable?

Commentaire de RicardoZ

Crafted gear has really gone by the wayside in these past two tiers courtesy of these absurdly rare and hard to find mats, at least on my server. Tailors and Leatherworkers are probably making more gold off of 4.0-4.1 gear.

Commentaire de ible

Having mats drop in raid makes the crafted items kind of pointless unless they are better than what the raid drop, which they never are. These new essence's should drop from new heroic dungeons. Living Ember should of dropped from ZG/ZA.

Commentaire de Kinetika

i aggree compeltely, only now after few month after fireland realese i can afford buy living ember most of my gear is allready 378, few piece 365, thats all, kinda worthless cuz new patch comeing soon, its like getting some last boost for new dungs and im off to raid and again should wonder do i will be enuf lucky to get items myself or i should buy them of AH or my guildbank.

Commentaire de AveryZan

The craftable Bracers seem really strong for many classes and specs. Last Patch there was a very limited selection on boots for many classes from only raiding. An example would be the lack of any Cloth spirit Boots from firelands. I think it would be a good idea to bring back what they did back in ICC with Primordial saronites being purchasable with currency and also dropping from raids. That would make the new craftable gear a lot more reasonable and worth while to aquire.

Commentaire de marah

They are listed as refundable, maybe they will be sold by a vendor (for valor points).

Commentaire de petre

I'm wondering if these will drop from bosses in Raid Finder runs, though my guess is that they will.

Commentaire de damtoften

Craftet feet are also BiS for boomkin, atleast on normal.

Commentaire de Lindentree

The crafted legs require eight Essence of Destruction, while the crafted bracers require only four. Please note that in 4.3 there are BoE i397 bracers available for 1250 VP, so with the exception of specs for which the BoE bracers are very poorly itemized, most Essence of Destruction will be put towards legs.

There are no boots crafted with Essence of Destruction; the above posts are referring to the 378 Firelands crafted boots.

According to Icy Veins, Essence of Destruction will not drop in LFR difficulty.

Commentaire de Gwendion

According to Icy Veins, Essence of Destruction will not drop in LFR difficulty.

and according to Elitist Jerks Essence of Destruction will ONLY drop in LFR. Which makes more sense, too, as you need it to craft gear enabling you to do normal 10-/25-man raids which then also have loot at 397 item level. I therefore believe EJ is right and Icy Veins made a mistake. :)

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Commentaire de zorrotm

They do not drop from LFR and unless it is bugged it is possible to get up to 3 off one boss. We got 3 off first boss. It is also possible to not get any from a boss. Seems to be pretty random.

Commentaire de Hoofen

Am I wrong or is the drop rate on these very low, much lower then the crafting mats obtained from Firelands bosses. I cleared the first 4 bosses on normal mode in 3 different raids and the first 6 on my main toon and saw on one drop out of 18 kills. I am not sure if it was just bad luck or if others are seeing this as well. If this is the case it will make the crafted items VERY expensive.

UPDATE! I am not sure if Blizzard changed the drop rate but since the reset we have seen these dropping more frequently then we did last week. I believe we have gotten at least one every other boss now unlike last week when we got 1/18 kills.

Second Update! It would appear that either Blizzard made a change to their drop rates or we got extremly unlucky that first week because these appear to be droping a little more frequently. They are still not dropping with the same rate as the previous crafted regents from FL but much better then 1 out of 18 kills. Now they appear to be 1 out of every 2 or 3 bosses.

Commentaire de Bozicek

I dont like that it drops only from bossesI should be like in WOTLK with Primordial Saronite...Boss drop or bought with VP...this item goes like 8k on my server atm...way way to much to craft something with these

Commentaire de Hulaine

To clarify, these do not drop from LFR difficulty. They drop from the normal or heroic, 10 or 25 man Dragon Soul encounters, and seem to have around 50% drop chance (normal mode, cant confirm the same for heroic).

As mentioned, there are BoE wrists from Valor points, providing an alternate to the costly crafted wrists.

I have yet to see the price for these on the AH but can confirm they are tradeable, im guessing for the first month or so at least the prices for these will be unaffordable by most!

Commentaire de Trigerhappy

Baal runz time! o wait

Commentaire de Agham

Tradeable !

Commentaire de DaveJK

It's possible for a boss to drop more than one of these. Not sure what the maximum limit for them to drop is.

Commentaire de Qoko

In Mists (and incoming WoD) soloing DS will become more common for the three (!) mounts that this raid offers. I'm currently doing so on three characters and these items drop in bulk. Your best bet for selling these are:

Simply to a vendor (8g75s a piece), considering the items have a high sell value and deposit cost making them less attractive for the auction house.

In a trade, to avoid AH deposit margins. This can be tedious.

On the auction house in stacks of 4. Every craft of this item requires 4 or 8, so 4 is definitely your best bet. Go for a very large profit (20g per piece at least) or expect losses from the deposit cost.

With crafts. If you know which transmog sets are going for a decent amount on your server, craft those pants to sell Essences with it. Wrists are not profitable because Bind on Equips are available on whom used to be the valor vendors for ~185g, and you will not sell crafted wrists for more than that.

Nothing about this is truly unique for Essences compared to other raid craftable items, but I found it worth a mention that the high cost on these items makes them unattractive for the auction house.

Commentaire de casonator

Nerfed in patch 6.1 to sell for 20s instead of a bunch of gold

Commentaire de Pandadood

Kinda mad that Blizzard nerfed their value from 5g to 20s.

Commentaire de masterzyck

Seems that they vendor price recently have been changed from 8 gold 75 silver to 20 silver :P