Viciedo is still young. Yes he has been in the organization for awhile but it is still young and a little raw. He will get better. People need to calm the hell down. If he was 28/29 then I would understand

Viciedo is still young. Yes he has been in the organization for awhile but it is still young and a little raw. He will get better. People need to calm the hell down. If he was 28/29 then I would understand

By that logic, anyone in their early 20's could become a superstar.

How many minor league seasons of working on this with no improvement did he have? He might still improve drastically, but that it's the expectation is a little more than far fetched.

Yeah it's great that he hit a timely homerun to win a game, but lots of really bad players do that too. If Viciedo hits 25 bombs with an obp under .300 again, we're in a world of trouble. Homers are deceiving, that's still well below average production.

I was about ready to lay into you, and instead decided to see how accurate you were. Wow, he had a .300 OBP last year. And people rip Adam Dunn.

Viciedo also has barely more than 1 year of MLB service time and has show steady and consistent improvement every year he has been a professional player. I don't think anyone thinks he is destined for superstardom but he has definitely proven to be a potentially useful everyday player, especially in today's game where the raw power he possess is becoming more and more scarce.

And, anyways, it's been one week. You'd truly have to be a ****ing psychopath to actually be concerned about anything at this point.

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Whether Tank can ever learn enough plate discipline to become a #3 type hitter time will tell but if he can slug .470+ he'll be a fine addition to any team's 5-7 section of the lineup.

He slugged .444 last year, with a .300 OBP. He had a WAR of -1.1. The issue isn't whether the numbers you provided would be fine, it's if he can get his OBP high enough to slug that high over the course of a full season. Dude (still) has serious contact issues. Maybe he just needs glasses?

He slugged .444 last year, with a .300 OBP. He had a WAR of -1.1. The issue isn't whether the numbers you provided would be fine, it's if he can get his OBP high enough to slug that high over the course of a full season. Dude (still) has serious contact issues. Maybe he just needs glasses?

Yes, that is the concern with Viciedo, and there appears to be only one way to figure out if he can or cannot.

He slugged .444 last year, with a .300 OBP. He had a WAR of -1.1. The issue isn't whether the numbers you provided would be fine, it's if he can get his OBP high enough to slug that high over the course of a full season. Dude (still) has serious contact issues. Maybe he just needs glasses?

I've never understood why people immediately cite this as a reason for hitter's struggles. The Sox have both an optometrist and an ophthalmologist available if there are legitimate concerns about a player's vision. If Viciedo were having difficulties because he couldn't see, it's likely this would have been addressed, as every player must submit to a physical exam (including a vision screening) during Spring Training.

I've never understood why people immediately cite this as a reason for hitter's struggles. The Sox have both an optometrist and an ophthalmologist available if there are legitimate concerns about a player's vision. If Viciedo were having difficulties because he couldn't see, it's likely this would have been addressed, as every player must submit to a physical exam (including a vision screening) during Spring Training.

You say that like last season didn't play out the overwhelming take on him though. It could happen, but is it reasonably not a longshot? I don't see why it isn't.

I don't think that's fair, as there are players who make significant jumps between their first and second full MLB seasons. Robin Ventura made significant strides between 1990 and 1991. July 1991, in particular, was the month that he finally seemed to hit his stride, culminating in one of the most exciting games in White Sox history.