But the truth is that it's BS - look carefully and you'll find some great free artwork around. e.g. for survivor we got all our textures for free and our 3D models for free (although the public alpha doesn't let you move the overhead camera to appreciate the complexity of the Quake2 models ). I also have another 100MB+ of free textures on my HD, plus countless free sprites (mainly raytraced stuff).

You want a reason that making your own game with 2-D sprites sucks. Here you go:

1. To make a half-decent game takes hours.2. When you make it, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes.3. No one else wants to play it.4. You can go out and buy a good game for 50 bucks that won't get boring.and 5. Naturally because I said so.

Did you ever think maybe a 2D game could just be a simple stepping stone to bigger and better things? Plus, not all 2D games suck, have you ever played 'Soldat'? It is a 2D FPS and it is pretty bad ass. Besides just because you think the graphics suck doesn't necessaryily mean that the game concept sucks. Some of the greatest games made are 2D and people still enjoy playing them to this day.

[...]1. To make a half-decent game takes hours.2. When you make it, you'll get bored with it in 15 minutes.3. No one else wants to play it.4. You can go out and buy a good game for 50 bucks that won't get boring.

1. What? Only some hours?2. If you don't like doing it why are you here?3. No really? A game you've done in "some hours" where you got bored after 15 minutes... and no one wants to play it? Eventually because you can't do anything good within that timespan... especially if you nuke the project with that incredible amount of enthusiasm 4. You didn't miss the whole point of this forum by any chance? But... yea... get some games and spend your whole spare time playing em

While that may be your opinion (sounds like you havn't actualy played it cause there is a bit more too it than pokemon...), it does not change the validity of what darkprophet said. Just because you don't like it doesnt mean its not an extremely popular game that has evolved into something much bigger than what it started as (2D 8-bit nintendo game).

I agree with you limies about how a 2d sprite piece of crap could be stepping stone to larger things, but that does not take away the fact that it sucks. Stick figures could lead to a rembrandt, but that doesn't mean that they are really f***ing stupid.

I don't think adding an extra dimension to the graphics in a game automaticaly makes it better. There are still plenty of snes and older games that I enjoy at least as much as the lates unreal tournament or other graphicaly intensive game. Anyone else have an opinion on this or are we stuck with bbqplatypus' ignorant view on things... I'm done talking to this guy unless someone else wants to say something.

Mr. Platypus has no respect for the british. i'm very sorry....wait, oh, my bad, neither do i! lol! you guys just think you have a little superiority thing goin on, huh? well, you guys just can't accept the fact that we had to save your asses in world war one and two! and yes, i'm so sorry, final fantasy is just pokemon with swords. it's just an asian piece of crap. try half-life, it's much better!no offense to the british, but shut the hell up, please shut up. oh yeah, why do you spell color "colour"? do you say it like that? no? didn't think so.that is all

So maybe he is 10 years old and only grew up with 3D games, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with him personaly not liking 2D games, but hes not just saying that he doesnt like them he is saying that they all suck.Considering that the best selling game (or close) of all time, starcraft, is a 2D game... what hes saying is obviously crap.

oh, look who's so funny. ten years old. for your information i have no idea who "bbqplatypus" is. besides, i was just kidding around. maybe, instead of just sitting around on your asses all day, you should, i know this is difficult for you, go outside.

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