posted at 5:11 pm on April 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Conn Carroll, I can’t tell if they’re offering this as a cautionary tale, to expose a security vulnerability identified by Al Qaeda before it’s exploited (AQ would never buy guns from the black market), or if it’s more of a shaming thing where gun-rights supporters are supposed to feel guilty because even a degenerate like Adam Gadahn thinks our laws need improving. My sense from the clip is that Scarborough’s thinking along the former lines while Mika, predictably, is thinking along the latter. I did … not anticipate having to fact-check Al Qaeda as part of America’s gun debate — thanks for injecting them into it, BuzzFeed — but Carroll’s right, of course, that this little shpiel is based on a lie. You can’t buy a “fully automatic assault rifle” at a gun show or anywhere else. (In fact, you can’t even buy a legal weapon at a gun show without a background check under current law if you’re buying from a licensed dealer.) I wonder if Gadahn knows that and is lying for propaganda reasons or if, like so many Democratic thought leaders on gun control, he’s an ignorant blowhard who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Same question for Joe and Mika, I guess: Did they neglect to note Gadahn’s lie because they couldn’t spot it or because noting it would reduce the video’s usefulness to The Cause?

Here’s an old list of “advice” from Gadahn on foreign policy in case “Morning Joe” needs some guidance on that subject too. Exit question: If we’re worried about Al Qaeda buying legal guns in the U.S., why aren’t we trying to ban all handguns, or at least all semiautomatics? It’s much easier to conceal a Glock than it is an AR-15. Let’s make things really hard on the terrorists by rolling back the Second Amendment as far as we can.

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You can’t buy a “fully automatic assault rifle” at a gun show or anywhere else.

Actually, you can, but the process involves a more thorough background check and a pocketful of money. You have to pay a transfer tax. The number of civilian market full-autos is limited and demand is high, so the weapons all have hefty price tags. (The real $$$ killer is the cost of ammunition, which the Class III dealers don’t mention!)

MSDNC had to scrub the first take of this bit when someone figured that Mika saying “And now we go to our special field correspondent Adam Gadahn…well good morning, Adam…” might not go over all that well.

I wonder if Gadahn knows that and is lying for propaganda reasons or if, like so many Democratic thought leaders on gun control, he’s an ignorant blowhard who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Probably the later. He probably gets his information from the same place all of HA’s liberal trolls do. And considering he has no clue whatsoever about purchasing automatic weapons in the US he has obviously never attempted to procure weapons himself inside the US. Yet we will have to listen to ignorant leftists drone on about how stupid us pro-gunners are because we don’t take heed what their fellow ignoramus Gadahn has to say on the issue.

Well, I’d venture to guess liberals think no one does background checks because mass murderers acquire fire arms so easily. Obviously, we don’t have background checks, otherwise potential mass murderers would be subjected to background checks and incidents such as at Sandy Hook could never occur.

Pretty silly complaint.
Your issue is that you know more about guns and the gun control issue can only be discussed/debated by those with equal or greater firearms knowledge?
And how much do you know anyway…can I assume more than some and less than others?
Well, same here.

Same question for Joe and Mika, I guess: Did they neglect to note Gadahn’s lie because they couldn’t spot it or because noting it would reduce the video’s usefulness to The Cause?

They had seen the clip ahead of time, so they or their staff would have had time to check it. “Fully automatic” is always a huge red flag, and it’s hard to imagine they wouldn’t catch it, but maybe they really are just that stupid.

They had seen the clip ahead of time, so they or their staff would have had time to check it. “Fully automatic” is always a huge red flag, and it’s hard to imagine they wouldn’t catch it, but maybe they really are just that stupid.

theperfecteconomist on April 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Not really. After all our president just repeated the exact same lie recently. I believe that most really are this stupid. I believe that the depth of their firearm knowledge is the last action movie they saw.

I don’t know about any of you but their coming at us in unprecedented ways here and accelerating it getting more reckless and assertive. I’m done talking to the choir as we sit here at our keyboards thinking we’re making a change by communicating with each other that are in agreement here while every day Obama tightens his grip on lawful American citizens. people, they are taking lawful firearms from good law abiding citizens due to a single prescription? Marriage counseling? How many in our majority have not ever gone to counseling or received a prescription from their doctor, especially after Obama’s first 4 years? How much more are we going to allow them to continue weakening us? This man has 4 more years so you all will have to make a decision at some point.

Allah, I don’t know what gun shows you’ve attended, but it is certainly possible to purchase fully automatic firearms at a gunshow. But you must have a class III weapons license to do so. And, of course, the 7 page or so background check still applies.

Cops just erroneously suspended the CCW licence and ordered a man to turn in his guns in NY.

‘I think that first and foremost, it stems from a flawed law that was passed so quickly without forethought on how something would be implemented. Certainly, I am disappointed on the fact that we were given information from State Police that this was an individual that we needed to act immediately on.

Previously we received correspondence from the State Police that a pistol permit holder in our County had a mental health condition that made them a potential harm to themselves or others, a provision in the NY SAFE Act that requires suspension of their pistol permit license.

When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person…it became clear that the State did not do their job here, and now we all look foolish.

Until the mental health provisions are fixed, these mistakes will continue to happen.’

– Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs, Erie, New York

But, don’t worry. Something similar will not happen to you. The Feds and the states PINKY PROMISE!

You don’t need a Class III license to buy a full-auto firearm. You do need a Class III license if you want to take delivery of the firearm immediately. Otherwise you have to wait out the FBI background check (not just an NICS check).

My understanding is that, in the 79 years since the NFA was passed, legally-owned and -registered machine guns have been used in precisely… two murders. One of which involved a police officer who used his department-issued submachine gun. So, yeah, their use in crime is virtually non-existent.

You don’t need a Class III license to buy a full-auto firearm. You do need a Class III license if you want to take delivery of the firearm immediately. Otherwise you have to wait out the FBI background check (not just an NICS check).

The fact that you’re discussing such intricate details of Class III weapons laws only highlights the sheer ignorance of those who claim to have some professional competency to tell us about gun ‘facts’ on television, as if they’d, as implied in their job descriptions, done extensive research before opening their knob-slobberers.

Of course, the biggest problem with allowing any branch of the federal government to pass any measure limiting the Constitutional Rights of U.S. citizens is that they get the crazy idea they actually have the right to pass measures limiting the Constitutional Rights of U.S. Citizens.