of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other

Correct. Often it is code or dog whistling to racists.

[quote="johnsmith"][quote="Auggie"][quote="johnsmith"][quote="Auggie"]Do you believe they are separate?[/quote]

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.[/quote]

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?[/quote]

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other[/quote]

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other

[quote="Auggie"][quote="johnsmith"][quote="Auggie"]Do you believe they are separate?[/quote]

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.[/quote]

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?[/quote]

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

[quote="johnsmith"][quote="Auggie"]Do you believe they are separate?[/quote]

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.[/quote]

pinkeye wrote:What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

Inferior culture, innit.

You’re conflating simplicity with inferiority.

That what the white supremecists do.

[quote="Kunning"][quote="Auggie"][quote="pinkeye"]What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.[/quote]

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.[/quote]

pinkeye wrote:What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

Inferior culture, innit.

[quote="Auggie"][quote="pinkeye"]What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.[/quote]

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.[/quote]

johnsmith wrote:interesting. i was unaware of their farming prowess, or even that they lived in villages. I always thought they were constantly on the move

They only moved about where it was sensible to move about. But it suits our purposes to present them as beneath us as we can.

It's disgusting.

I'm glad someone is trying to set the record straight

Nonsense. These people are racists. They won't even let decent white people walk on a silly rock.

[quote="johnsmith"][quote="mothra"][quote="johnsmith"]interesting. i was unaware of their farming prowess, or even that they lived in villages. I always thought they were constantly on the move[/quote]

They only moved about where it was sensible to move about. But it suits our purposes to present them as beneath us as we can.

It's disgusting.[/quote]

I'm glad someone is trying to set the record straight[/quote]

Nonsense. These people are racists. They won't even let decent white people walk on a silly rock.

pinkeye wrote:What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

[quote="pinkeye"]What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.[/quote]

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity. Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

The British created revisionist history which was based on lies to protect the interests of the British.

It's interesting that the current Myanmar Rohingya crisis is rooted in British historical mass movement of Rohingya into what was then Burma for their own commercial interests. Probably because the Rohingya were more obeisant to the British and worked without complaint for zero wages.

The British not only committed crimes against Australian Aboriginals, they compounded the crimes by publishing lies as 'history'.

The British created revisionist history which was based on lies to protect the interests of the British.

It's interesting that the current Myanmar Rohingya crisis is rooted in British historical mass movement of Rohingya into what was then Burma for their own commercial interests. Probably because the Rohingya were more obeisant to the British and worked without complaint for zero wages.

The British not only committed crimes against Australian Aboriginals, they compounded the crimes by publishing lies as 'history'.

That's part of the reason why the Indigenous Peoples were able to live continuously the same way for so long; there was no incentive to innovate and adapt. In Europe and other parts of the world, conflict and wars between different nations and empires created the impetus to adapt and to evolve (socially and culturally) in order to survive. Where there exists no competition, then change does not take place.

Good grief Auggie. What I have underlined. above. simply say " what I said"..... or is a totally irrelevant statement has no bearing on this discussion.

Talking wandering off the beaten track.

Surviving the Australian outback with basically their own intelligence as their main hope, they DID survive.!

to which I can only reply:

Auggie says

That's part of the reason why the Indigenous Peoples were able to live continuously the same way for so long; [u]there was no incentive to innovate and adapt.[/u] In Europe and other parts of the world, conflict and wars between different nations and empires created the impetus to adapt and to evolve (socially and culturally) in order to survive. [u]Where there exists no competition, then change does not take place.[/u]

Good grief Auggie. What I have underlined. above. simply say " what I said"..... or is a totally irrelevant statement has no bearing on this discussion.

Talking wandering off the beaten track. :roll

Surviving the Australian outback with basically their own intelligence as their main hope, they DID survive.!