Proton wants govt to pay R&D costs – Mahathir

Proton Holdings Bhd is seeking reimbursement from the government for the amount it has spent on research and development (R&D) to produce new cars, The Star reports.

“We have asked the government to reimburse some of the money we invested on R&D projects,” chairman Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad told reporters after launching Proton’s “Drive for Gaza” fund-raiser, a campaign aimed at helping victims in the Palestine-Israeli conflict.

“This is a normal practice in the car industry, where incentives are given to carmakers for development of new technology,” he said, citing South Korea as an example.

The national carmaker is set to launch a new car, which it said has cost as much as RM300 million to develop, before the end of the year. This new car is expected to be the much-awaited Global Small Car (code-named P2-30A).

Dr Mahathir told the English-language daily that Proton had never received any direct cash hand-outs from the government and over the years had used its own money for R&D projects.

Despite the introduction of the Preve and Suprima S (above) in the last two years, Proton shifted a meagre 52,920 cars from January to May 2014. That’s 2% less than in the same five-month period last year, when it managed 53,909, reports The Star.

Its domestic market share had also shrunk to 19% as of end-May 2014, compared with 21% a year ago.

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Back to topic, this guy never feel shame on asking others for payment.

Say will not ask for any funding, what about now?
Why can’t he use his own money to funding, “Proton a independent brand/company” Why still asking gov to pay for your loses!!!!
R&D should pay by the company itself…

Low Budget, pls use your brain, if you have any. So what you are saying is that they are entitled to claim R&D money if they incur the costs first then claim as reimbursement, because they are not claiming for R&D money upfront. What kind of logic is that? Today is a sad day for Malaysia, please do not make it any worse.

Where is the CEO of Proton? Any announcement is always done by Mahathir. It is as if the CEO, CFO and COO don’t exist at all.

Mr CEO, don’t you feel ashamed that you are just a puppet boneka? In any company, it is always the CEO or MD that makes important announcements. But in Proton’s case, the CEO is nothing but a boneka.

This clearly shows one thing, Proton got Mahathir in to pressure the Government. now, all the announcements made is done by Mahathir. Mahathir is using his clout and pressure to make the Government and Najib favour them.

The CEO and MD of Proton should feel ashamed of themselves. Tak malu ke? You the CEO and MD are paid 6 figure salary per month and all you do is sit like a mouse in the office.

Might as well abolish the whole Board of Directors and just keep Mahathir as the Chairman and not have a Board at all. This alone can save close to Rm10 million per month in salary.

Why not do this? Since Mahathir is calling the shots for Proton now. I pity the Government. They cannot say NO to Mahathir because Mahathir has done so many favours for all the cabinet members. You scratch my back I scratch yours. Mahathir has given so many contracts to all the Ministers and Cabinet and their family and proxy.

The Cabinet and Najib cannot say NO to Mahathir anymore.

This begets the question, it looks like Proton is pressuring the Government to use our tax payers money to fund the dying company. We the rakyat of Malaysia, through Najib, is being pressured to fund Proton even more.

Better to just close Proton down. It is solely because of Mahathir and Proton that for 30 years, 30 million people in Malaysia suffer. Everybody’s biggest payment per month is their cars as we are paying overpriced cars because of the Protectionism given to Proton.

You see, in the 80s or even in the early 90s, you can get a brand new Nissan 130Y or a Toyota Corolla for RM20,000. Now, the same car is RM139,000.

In truth, the past 30 years, car prices have come down a lot and have not gone up due to inflation. It has come down due to economies of scale. This is proven by the fact that you can get a brand new purely Japan made top spec Toyota Camry 2.5 with 9 airbags in the US for US$22,000. That is about RM60,000. The normal B segment car like the Almera is sold in the US for US$9,999. (RM30,000). Mind you, this is after Toyota and Nissan of the US has made their margin and profits and the US government has collected taxes and duties from Nissan and Toyota. The direct from factory prices is far cheaper. UMW will get the above 2.5 Camry for US$15,000 from their principal in Japan. As our Camry is CKD, the price is even lower than that.

So, in actual fact, most Malaysians can enjoy cheap and reasonable cars but because of Proton and Mahathir, all the other car prices have been raised up tremendously to protect Proton. Pro Proton pondans will say that even Proton pay duties and taxes but every Malaysian know that MITI has clearly instructed all other car brands to price their cars no less than RM20,000 higher gap than Proton to protect the dying Proton.

You see Proton is actually a good concept. But when Mahathir created Proton, he made sure every single part of the Proton car is supplied by his crony buddies. And these crony buddies overcharge Proton by ten times whilst giving poor and inferior parts.

That is why your Proton always falls apart and everybody blames quality control. That is the reason also why Proton makes only RM500 per car that they sell. It is solely because of the crony vendors who are overcharging Proton. For example, per car Mat is sold to Proton for RM100 whilst you can buy the same car mat from Brothers for RM10. This also has not been sorted out. No point Proton itro new models when there are so many skeletons in its closet. Sort the skeletons out first, otherwise, Proton cannot make money and inferior parts will wear and tear fast compromising quality of Proton cars.

Now Mahathir is in Proton, he will just ensure that all the vendors for Proton remain the same. All his buddies and relatives. Proton will still get the same low inferior quality parts it has been getting for the past 30 years and it will still be overcharged by 10 times for each part the vendors supply.
Why ask the Government for money? Change the vendors first. Show the Proton is sincere in wanting to improve itself.

Malaysians have already suffered so much. For 30 years, 30 million people suffer so much. We struggle paying for our high car prices all because of one man’s dream of benefiting his buddies and friends. Until Proton changes ALL their vendors, Proton will be a loss making organisation because it produces super low quality cars due to its vendors supplying Proton Super low Quality parts. And it will suck all our money dry. Every now and then, it will ask our money to support the company. This is not a one off. Mahathir will be asking the government money on and on.

In the meantime, we Malaysians will suffer another 30 years with very high cars prices and very high car loans. The government also makes sure their GLC and government banks also get a free ride from the rakyat. Because cars are so expensive, every single Malaysian is forced to take 9 year loans from the banks to buy a car. And most banks are GLC or Government owned. All get a free ride. Ever wondered why only Proton gets high interest rates compared to other car brands? Isn’t Proton conceived to lessen the burden of the rakyat?

In 1985, Proton was conceived to lessen the burden of the rakyat. That was the speech Mahathir gave on that launch day. If so, why do Proton cars get higher interest rates?

It looks like Proton is not to benefit the rakyat. Infact, besides making the rakyat suffer, Proton bleeds the rakyat. Every year, Proton gets hundreds of million of taxpayers money as form of research grants to keep the company afloat. Few months ago, Proton even asked the government to give them 2 billion ringgit. Government said no in a sandiwara show. But we know, they will get the money quietly. Now, they are openly asking even more for the Research and Development. How long must we Malaysians suffer? Isn’t 30 years of free money into Proton coffers enough?

Proton also cost us hundreds of billions in ringgit in investments from car companies who moved to Thailand and Indonesia. Car companies got fed up with Malaysia’s MITI for protecting Proton and telling other companies what to price their cars. They all moved their operations to Thailand making it the AutoCity of the world.

Recently GM announced that they rolled out already 1 million cars from Thailand. Imagine if GM was in Malaysia and we taxed GM RM10,000 per car. Calculate that with 1 million cars. Just from GM alone, we lost Billions in USD. That is just one company. Imagine all the different car brands from Cadillac, Ford, Buick, VW etc

Because of Mahathir and Proton, we lost hundreds of billion of ringgit in investment and trillions of ringgit from jobs lost. If Malaysia was the autocity of Asia, hundreds of thousands of jobs would have been created for Malaysians. In the 80s and 90s, we were heading to be the Detroit of Asia. Everybody wanted to CKD in Malaysia. We lost all that. Trillions.

Close down Proton. Open Malaysia back again to all the car manufacturers. They prefer Malaysians as opposed to Thais because Malaysians can speak well and are more intelligent. We will see billions, of not trillions flow into our economy vs to now, where Proton is just sucking our money.

Time to close Proton down. It is a waste of of taxpayers money supporting an organisation that loses money every year and sucks our tax payers money daily.

then proton has hired the wrong guy…he really cannot see where the problems are. he used g money 30 years ago to built this company, now he still is using the same out-of-date strategy to extend the life of this company. but so sorry to say that u r not the g now. coz u r out of date. the g now apply so many new taxes on people, proving that the new g needs more money than the time you were the g. the g announced not to support MAS before, and may announce not to support your proton, soon or later. i would like to give u one advise, M. Manage ur suppliers properly first. They are the big jaws who ruin ur company.

People seem to think that closing down proton will solve all the problem, that closing down proton will make all other car prices go down. All this is based on the “fact” (or assumption?) that the Government imposes high tax and duty on other cars solely to protect Proton.

Let me ask you this, what if this is no longer true? What if, initially, yes, the Gov imposes high tax and duty to protect Proton. But over the years, the Gov realised that this tax is a major source of income to the government, and it is only taxing the middle class and the “rich” (i.e. the bigger car you want to own, the more tax you have pay). The poor and rural folks will not be affected by this tax, because they mainly buy second hand cars or ride motorcycles.

So what if, we got our wish…Proton closed down. But the Gov still does not want to reduce the car tax and duty, because it is a major source of income to the Gov. Where does that leave us? The middle class can still afford their City, Vios, Camry etc. But the lower income group will loose their “affordable” cars.

To me, the solution is not to close down proton. This is just a mean. Getting this mean does not guarantee we get the end (which is lower car prices). To me, the solution is just to reduce car tax and duty, and make Proton compete on equal grounds with other car makers. If Proton survives, good for them. That proves that competition will help Proton more competitive. If Proton fails, that shows Proton should close down anyway. The important thing, is that we, the rakyat, gets lower car prices, regardless of proton continue or closed down.

If one company where the amount earned is lower than the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something, it mean loss.
If keep on loss then finally the company declare bankrupt or close it.
And this potong keep ask for money shamefully from government (rakyat) and it still can last ~ 30years!

Vader:
Please wake up. It’s now 2014, PROTON owned by DRB-HICOM now almost 3 years. Why you twisting said take money from rakyat? Yes, PROTON had suffer losses for past few years but it does not mean that the company do not have money to invest in future. If they want to do R&D, they can seek fund from parent company.

Again. Stupid comment detected. Same Lorr don’t show to reader u r stupid. Please read the article before you comment. PROTON is seeking reimbursement from the government for the amount it has spent on R&D to produce new cars. PROTON is not blindly asking money from govt. PROTON are seeking ‘REIMBURSEMENT’. Do you know what is ‘REIMBURSEMENT’? Please google it..

Reimbursement for what? What had Proton come out from its R&D? Noisy and fuel hunger engine? fix-broke-fix-broke x100 times gearbox, problematic power windows which require lifetime warranty (lifetime repair)?

You can call it reimbursement for Proton invent the tyre to be round shape for RM5 mil. Or Proton invent piston is required in an engine with R&D cost 10mil. But after all, it is same shit Proton wants: MONEY!

My stupid comment or not, it is up to you like I will care. But when Proton think Malaysian are stupid to believe its “reimbursement” and ask for tax payer money, we all care!

Hicomm is already working on supplementing them. Please read previous reports before barking here. i have been following these news and I am getting sick of you people thrasing without a specific mindset. Grow up people.

Tak malu punya orang. Still asking for money from the people.
Still want to compare with Korea. Are you as good as the Koreans for god sake? You think the Koreans having karipap during their meeting like you?
Just close la. Ptui.

I have to agree with Ah Beng? Without Proton what you wanna drive? Perodua ? Sorry la. When P2 starts to monopoly the market, you won’t be able to buy half the car. The reason you can still afford a proper Proton is because the govt is supporting them. Thrash la somemore. Now Myvi itself is 60k. Wait until proton gone, I wanna see you driving a bugatti perhaps?

@sssd you are the naive one.
Don’t you know that the 9.9L/100km stated is for HIGHWAY driving???
In City driving campro engines use more petrol than 2.5L sushi engines!
15 year old Vios engine also more efficient!

FACT? WHat fact? Vios 1.5l in city driving only achieves 11km/l. Preve that is more or less 2.0l (1.6T) get 9-10km/l. It is more or less expected. Where got fuel hunger? YOu said it’s powerless? Sprinting is 9.7 secs while vios 10+ secs. Put racechip and it’s faster than Camry Hybrid, about 7+ secs. Vios can go to junkyard already.

P1 has always had dealerships overseas for many years especially in UK and Australia but look at how is has failed.
UK 1989-2013: 151441 units sold
Australia 1995-2013: 33547 units sold.
Despite the decent sales in the 90’s look how low is the sales now. 200 units a year in UK and 500 units a year in Australia. Public perception on Proton is not only bad here locally but also oversea. Its universal!
So yes Proton has gone back to square one like you said as a Failure! Duh

It was a bail out loan. Which mean they have to pay back with interest. And ford already fully paid back with interest. What M on behalf of proton IS NOT A BAIL OUT LOAN, NOR THE MONEY ONCE PASS ON TO THEM WILL EVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY EVER AGAIN. They are just simply asking for money for their book keeping. Which is totally wrong on all level.

Ok how much you need just go to bank negara open up the safe and help yourself that why you are in the chairman positions so that you have friends and Rat holes to dig as much as you want. Well thank you 1 Malaysia

Such arrogance you have. Your hard earned money? How much taxes you pay annually? RM3K, 4K? That wouldn’t be enough to patch a few potholes in the streets. You think your pathetic sum is actually helping Proton? Think again.

All you do is take. What have you done for your country? You’re benefiting more from the government than the government benefits from you.

I can ask the same to you. What have YOU done for the country? Did you even pay a single cent of tax? Why so butthurt when ppl talk about Proton. You got shares is it? Even if you do it’s not going to amount to anything.
It’s easy to call other ppl arrogant when you yourself are the most arrogant one judging from all your previous posts.

He claimed Pauleta only pays 3-4k tax a year and its hardly any effect and can’t even patch a few pothole. Take things for free from government in what sense?
So if Proton takes funds for free its ok?? Don’t be an ignorant hypocrite man. Go back and live in your cave.

Read it again. He asked Pauleta about it. Since you and Pauleta bashed Proton, what do you do country? How much you pay for tax?. Dun ask me i’m not butthurt monkeys nor asking about what gomen will do with my paid tax.

Policeman:
Pauleta do nothing to this country. He just know how to suck govt subsidy. He don’t deserve to live in this country. Pauleta, please go away. You can live in HK, Taiwan, Singapore if u want..

It’s you who sendiri cakap sendiri syok. You think Vios is fuel saver? Its FC is more or less like Saga in city driving. 10-11 km/l. Before yo usay about 9.9l/100km FC of suprima, 2.0l output engine can always leave 1.5l Vios in dust. You syok sendiri lor.

At least Vios got 11km/l in city driving.
Your campro claim of 9.9l/100km is for highway driving only. City driving can’t even achieve 10km/l
Go watch Driven first season episode 1. Even on highway Suprima only got 13.9km/l while Vios is 17.3km/l
So which engine more efficient?? 15 year old dinosaur engine also more efficient la.
City driving you talk about smoking ppl. Try and smoke others in the jam.

Looks like you really syok sendiri until you are blind.
Go compare with any other 1.6 turbo engines and see. Campro engines uses almost 50% more fuel and has less HP and torque.
A 1.6 turbo can easily be more efficient than a 1.5 NA but its the OPPOSITE for Campro. Epic fail!
Continue to syok sendiri and drive your Proton for life. Don’t be a hypocrite and change car ok.

quote:
“Despite the introduction of the Preve and Suprima S (above) in the last two years, Proton shifted a meagre 52,920 cars from January to May 2014. That’s 2% less than in the same five-month period last year, when it managed 53,909, reports The Star.

Its domestic market share had also shrunk to 19% as of end-May 2014, compared with 21% a year ago.”

if the market share had shrunk, proton should prove their new model to gain market before request gov to sponsor the R&D which were also tax payer money.

P3-21A (300million), P3-22A (220million), P2-30A(300million). These are the models. Self-developed. What Tun is asking the promised back-dated R&D grant for all these models. Supposedly they will be getting ~200 million per year. But they havent received any yet for the passed 3 years.

For those who didn’t know, Perodua also received R&D grant. And many malaysian company that have R&D program which is materialized, will entitled to get the grant. It is normal practise.

Hahaha but then your suspensions rosak and need go change.
Engine leaking need go repair
Drink petrol so need pump constantly.
Leaking turbo and lose to even other makes of same capacity turbo engines.
5 star ANCAP but lose to other brands also. Mazda, Toyota, Honda all higher score.
You spend whole annual leave in service center.
So go ahead and continue claim to smoke other car since everyone else couldn’t be bothered. Oh not to mention there are hardly any Preve or Suprima on the road. Malaysian also no confidence to buy it la

I beg to differ. I see many new Vios and 1-2 Altis daily compared to 1-2 Preve. Preve launched 3 years compared to Altis half year but got more Altis on the road.
Best of all since Suprima launched i can see 1 car a month!!
Don’t syok sendiri too much and get blinded.

Aiyah, nobody ask Proton to spend spend money make such models mah. People like Japan and Korea all ready got nice cars that we orang Malaysia can buy cheap cheap what. Why Govt want to be so stupid one and spend money to research and make lousy cars as high cost one? You see ah, how much rakyat benefit lor if Govt close down Proton and let orang Malaysia sama you and me buy good car, even pay current price. Govt make money on tax, we get good car and Govt no need to support leech like Proton lor. You know or not, our Govt got borrow money already more than GDP by 55%! See my logic? How more to ‘reimburse’ Proton for R&D on car that nobody need? You answer me.

Aiyah, ruffstuff and mcvp, you correct, close down Proton Govt pun tak jamin reduce tax. But kurang kurang Govt no need to bother old man Dr M bug for money now and then mah. You see ah, RM300m can build how many low cost house for orang asli or may be even bumiputra. Who so neglected by Govt also cannot afford buy car anyway lah, Proton or not Proton. But at least main stream Rakyat people don’t suffer so much loh. Faham tak?

Protons ever shrinking prospects isn’t that it has no money to do R&D.

Proton’s problems is a result of short changing the rakyat it was to produce quality cars for. The cars made from 1999-2010 were absolute garbage and stinks of exploitation (mandatory ugly side stickers for $120?). Those that bought in were stung badly. One bitten twice shy, as they say.

The road to Proton’s recovery won’t be a rosy one, and getting any grants won’t reverse Proton’s fortunes. This will serve as nothing more than a blood transfusion without even stopping the bleed.

The simple fact is that they haven’t fixed their fundamental flaws which is to build cars that the rakyat needs and wants.

This simple fact seems to escape Proton and its product planners (ahem…Suprima S). If no one buys the cars you make, then you are either making the wrong cars or not correcting your past mistakes. In the case of Proton, its both.

Someone at Proton needs to get off their high horse and see what malaysians really want.

Other car manufacturers have a great and solid design language. Different models and segments follow the design language with minor enhancement. So people will know, it’s Lexus, Mazda, Volkwagen and so on.

No Malaysians are born to owe you any money. No one buy your goreng pisang, you ask us to pay you back your oil money? Go eat your own goreng pisang, then improve your recipe, not beg or think we owe you!!

You created these leeches (ap, naza, proton) now you’re saying we owe more? You’ll go down in the history as bapa kemunduran Malaysia! God bless malaysia!

How do you know it’s all the same for GSC? RM300mil for a redesigned HPF platform, new CVVT head for Campro, newer CVT unit and the switch to European vendors for vital safety-related components and electronics, is very very surprising. Most manufacturers couldn’t even finish a new chassis with that kind of money.

Toyota took well over USD200mil just to give Yaris a new cloth.

Despite this, Proton can’t force govt for reimbursement. Where the heck is DRB?

Putting it this way in direct comparison i can see the stark difference.
gore unless you have a better comeback i think you got burned and owned pretty bad. Do give fuel consumption figures and not So-So FC

Let me guess this straight. They wanted to ask for help from the gov to the R&Ds financially with OUR TAX MONEY. How badly they want to screw us? Just because we avoid their rubbish cars, they want us to pay for the development of their rubbish?

Stupid old senile M… This is normal practice in the car industry, where incentives are given to carmakers for development of new technology,” he said, citing South Korea as an example. How much does Hyundai sold Elantra or Kia sold K3 in Korea??? For a mere RM50-60k only… How much does Proton’s Preve/Suprima sold in Malaysia??? Still dare to ask money from Government… Wake up please…

Bloodly Dr Tun… u never failed in sucking people blood. P1 spending hundreds million a year in R&D. We don’t we anything return or creative products come out from Proton. Where the R&D money goes? Now u wanted us to pay the bill? Rakyat prefer to just close ur bloodly Proton ! End story!

And… pls be reminded that Proton is in DRB hand.. a private company! Why u want government to pay the bill? Who R u to say so?

What R&D? what can Proton offer? copy also need gov to fund? pls close shop since you cannot offer anything to the country. Proton suppose to create more job, more business and more income for the country and conquer the world automotive industry. Proton causes us to pay more for other car then gov tax us for proton and etc. This is really a boleh land.

This car company is a parasite! Shameless. Always having its hand out asking for assistance. Whats so special having this old man as chairman who says that he will steer proton into the right direct? Oh…indeed steering straight to ask government handouts. If that is the case, I too can be a chairman. And I wonder if he was put there because proton planned all along that they need government assistance again. F**KED UP company of the millennium.

Why is the old man making comparisons to other country now? Didn’t he told us many moons ago not to compare our policy with those of other country? If he wants to compare sure, there are 1001 things we can compare. Lets begin with NAP

close shop and sell nasi lemak…hold on..this cant be right either…automotive to nasi lemak?
Mahathir…why are you still supporting your crappie useless proton…u invented it so that poor rakyat can buy car but not knowing this piece of shit sold at high price and ripped off the nation for 30 years.close it…let the rakyat enjoy the luxury of life

Sometimes i wondering what these so called very brainy ppl work as…talked so much..talk here and there but nothing to show..just talk..if u very intelligent..applied work at proton..do something than nothing…everyone can condemn..but how many of u can really show what u are capable of???

1st- R.I.P for MH17…
This stupid Proton want to request money again. Rakyat being force to buy lousy car and now request more from Rakyat.
Proton just a big liability to Malaysia. Not support economic, made Rakyat suffer and now suck Rakyat money further.
Proton, you dont feel shame? But we shame on you.

If Proton wants to claim R&D costs, since you say its an normal practice in automotive in car industry, please do it (very, very) quietly.. These sort of statements will not gain any mileage in re-building Proton’s already low brand image and reputation.

Bad PR. Bad PR.

It will only invoke anger and hate from the Rakyat towards Proton and will further shrink Proton’s slice of cake in car market.

I agree Tun we must allow Proton to rebuild itself, but not this way. If Lotus can survive by strengthening its engineering arm, why cant proton find another way to gain its reputation?
Yes Proton have series of not so successful investments- MV agusta for instance.
The rakyat is against ‘free’ fund to proton. So allow other car manufacturer do a JV la. Dont la so lansi. There are million way to show your patriotism. Soon dapat duit kita boleh pergi kakaoke!
P.s.: I do believe the manpower of Proton are dedicated. Just some problem between BOD and production line sahaja. Malaysia (masih) boleh!

I just hope Mahathir does not survive in the last few heart attacks. Sorry for being cruel, unless he is really helping the country, otherwise, proton and himself should close shop together once an for all. He is back now sucking our tax payers money making us heart attack. Some people working day and night just to earn more cash to pay for their loans. Fucking Mahathir and their cronies have billions of cash in their bank accounts, and yet still sucking every day. I just hope Allah will punish them if not today, but one day for sure. They all just rot in HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never said I can’t afford. I am owning a D-segment car. I’m just dislike that proton is draining our tax payers money for nothing. If you are so supportive, then go ahead and fund all your savings to them and hope for a miracle. We have never said we did not give any chances to Proton, but every year begging for money from government and does not success in the automotive industry, better close the shop than wasting the money. I am just saying wasting, who knows, those money went to cronies. This is not the first time our Mr Mahathir is doing such sneaky job.

Shame, so much shame on Proton. From the top management to the technicians……Don’t they even know and feeling shame? Now asking for R & D money????

Proton is a blardy big baby, always whine when encounter challenge, ask for mama protection, failed miserably to grow up and mature…..and after working for 30 years……and still ask pocket money from mama??

Agak agak lah proton.This proton shit is really getting in my nerve now.Probably the worst carmaker in the history of the world.Made many malaysian suffer with their greedy-ness ,lack of vision and passion.go mati lah proton.As a car lover in malaysia.im really frustrated with proton

MALAY, CHINESE, INDIAN EVERY SINGLE MALAYSIAN HAS HAD ENOUGH OF LIVING WITH CARS THAT WE PAY SO MUCH OF OUR OWN HARD EARN MONEY FOR THAT IS NOT UP TO STANDARD, NOT UP TO QUALITY, NOT UP TO SAFETY AND COMFORT.

So this is what the new management + chairman / adviser of proton is really about… panhandaling the govt…!

Aside from duplicating Lotus’ handling capabilities… WHAT(TF) product from Proton’s R&D that buyers got that is SOOOOO hi-tech and groundbreaking that is globally acclaimed or that other manufacturers are clamouring to be part of…? or other nations want SOOOO much they must import…? Does it surpass BMW / Merc / Audi (or others) technical capabilities, fuel efficiency, safety, comfort or styling…?

PaulTan intrepid investigative journalists really need to uncover this… WE the people need to know this much so as to be able to contain our barf… urrrhhhhpppp…

So… Dr.M… are u really saying if Govt doesn’t give u any single sen Proton is to close shop…. and with it make thousands of M’sian workers out of a job and more vendors out of business…? Is that the real threat that u’re trying to tell us..?

imagine if we had invested the same amount of money on KTM for 30 years? build more train stations all over the country (kampung and city), each station is a full featured shopping mall connecting to rapid bus and taxi. with all the shop rental and job opportunities, can calculate how much return?

Why harass tun n family not driving proton? What about proton bosses n employees also don’t buy proton, if u see they drive proton its because company car… Give for free then they drive proton, they spend their money on other cars… Really double standard. ITU drb boss semua have Audi , Bentley, Honda… Only you poor middle class China, india and melayu susah get loan only buy proton.

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