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When they (LE, FBI etc.) all get done playing at looking and putting on a show, it sounds like we may need to get Tim Miller up there.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

For the past few months Reno police have been trying to see if missing Reno woman Terri Ann Fourcher is among the bodies authorities in California have already recovered after one of the serial killers wrote maps of burial sites, said Lt. Mohammad Rafaqat.http://www.rgj.com/article/20120502/...Freak-Killers-

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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Authorities could be losing faith in recovering more buried remains of victims of two notorious serial killers after an excavation in Linden this week uncovered no remains.

Officials from the Sacramento division of the FBI and the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office Evidence Recovery Team dug on private property on Drais Road on Tuesday in an effort to find more possible victims of Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog, who were convicted in four murders but are widely suspected of more. After the unsuccessful excavation, one official expressed dwindling hopes of finding additional remains.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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I'm beginning to think the families are all going to have to connect and organize and put pressure on the authorities. And if necessary arrange for their own surveys and searches.

IMO the authorities seem to be dragging their feet on this one. And I don't know why. I know there were a lot of jurisdictional issues. I know that the idea has been put out there to take Shermantine to the site and that has been shot down. But they just seem reluctant to do much as far as searches.

It may be a strategy to put pressure on Shermantine to give up all he knows, to make him name all the burial sites and tell who all they killed. But in the process it is putting a lot of pressure on the victim's families.

And if they are trying to drive Shermantine, this might be the stick. But they will get more out of him if they occasionally offer him a carrot too.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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I'm beginning to think the families are all going to have to connect and organize and put pressure on the authorities. And if necessary arrange for their own surveys and searches.

IMO the authorities seem to be dragging their feet on this one. And I don't know why. I know there were a lot of jurisdictional issues. I know that the idea has been put out there to take Shermantine to the site and that has been shot down. But they just seem reluctant to do much as far as searches.

It may be a strategy to put pressure on Shermantine to give up all he knows, to make him name all the burial sites and tell who all they killed. But in the process it is putting a lot of pressure on the victim's families.

And if they are trying to drive Shermantine, this might be the stick. But they will get more out of him if they occasionally offer him a carrot too.

Well I could see why they would not want to dig up any more of the locations if Herzog was really still alive. After all I have never heard of a prison setting up a trailer on property so an inmate could be released with a place to go. That is the prisoners problem mostly to find suitable housing that complies with conditions of their own parole . WTH.

Not to mention LE has not searched the locations before when apparently they were aware ,even some of the victims parents thought the locations were correct so why did it take padilla getting the media attention to the case for anything to be actually looked at and since they already believe the 2 to have murdered 10 +before finding bodies why would they stop looking after only 4 ?

If the "suicided SK" is alive and signed immunity papers during his plea and cannot be tried for old murders it would sence that since the other started talking ,Herzog would need to disappear and they would not want to dig up 70 people realizing the mistake letting herzog out and having to hid or and claim him dead. Really a huge problem for alot of careers .

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Generally though even if a deal is signed giving immunity, it will be only for the known ones they are attempting to prosecute. I have never heard of any blanket immunity for unknown victims. And there are plenty of unknown or unprosecuted victims to pick from.

I do get a strong feeling though that there is something going on behind the scenes that they don't want the public to find out.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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Is maybe rebecca flores a victim of theirs? her case was closed and marked unsolved. here is her info :http://www.forthelost.org/jahi
Above: Rebecca Flores in 1991

Rebecca Flores

Last seen in Fresno, California on October 8, 1991

Vital statistics: White female. Born on November 1, 1955. Black hair, brown eyes. She has a scar on her right knee. Two of her front teeth have been extracted and replaced with false. Was thirty-five at the time.

Circumstances: She was last seen entering a red Pontiac Fiero. Foul play is suspected. Classified as Endangered Missing.

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That is why I think the family's may have to organize and put pressure on the authorities. It has worked in other cases where LE has dragged their feet.

When authorities see all the families together, with media publicizing it, with voters watching it...... they pay more attention.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight