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No I am not taught, I learned on my own after years of reading and investigating and education.

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you did not "learn" anything in and of yourself, for you are not the first man, and you rely on liars, unbelievers, scoffers, mockers, and ignorant blind men who have no consensus of opinion and whose opinions keep on changing, no matter how you spin it. But "God's Word is true from the beginning".

you did not "learn" anything in and of yourself, for you are not the first man, and you rely on liars, unbelievers, scoffers, mockers, and ignorant blind men who have no consensus of opinion and whose opinions keep on changing, no matter how you spin it. But "God's Word is true from the beginning".

I rely on those that have observed the facts, live in the real world and dont follow a archaic book. So I have learned PLENTY. You on the other hand are completely hopeless.

I rely on those that have observed the facts, live in the real world and dont follow a archaic book. So I have learned PLENTY. You on the other hand are completely hopeless.

Your argument sounds like a pre-schooler who knows nothing and thinks he knows it all, to me -no offense, though.

And those you rely on have observed nothing, but surmised everything.
They were not there, and they are living in a fish bowl, so to speak, and can't get out to see what it is like outside, no matter how hard they try, and they imagine vain things about the universe, all the time, that are totally proved wrong by men of science who have done real tests, about what can be tested -like the geo-centric universe, and the electric universe, for instance, including electric sun and stars.Thunderbolts home

Your argument sounds like a pre-schooler who knows nothing and thinks he knows it all, to me -no offense, though.

And those you rely on have observed nothing, but surmised everything.
They were not there, and they are living in a fish bowl, so to speak, and can't get out to see what it is like outside, no matter how hard they try, and they imagine vain things about the universe, all the time, that are totally proved wrong by men of science who have done real tests, about what can be tested -like the geo-centric universe, and the electric universe, for instance, including electric sun and stars.Thunderbolts home

Your posts are almost delusional, I have never seen anything like it. I feel bad for you. Cant help those that are too scared to look past their beliefs. I am going to go with educated scientists that have witnessed the facts for themselves. Thanks

By all means. Enjoy yourself gleefully while you have your being intact!
"Eat, drink, and be merry", "today", for "tomorrow" comes, when you will no longer have the capacity to indulge yourself in mindless scoffing.

Your argument sounds like a pre-schooler who knows nothing and thinks he knows it all, to me -no offense, though.

And those you rely on have observed nothing, but surmised everything.
They were not there, and they are living in a fish bowl, so to speak, and can't get out to see what it is like outside, no matter how hard they try, and they imagine vain things about the universe, all the time, that are totally proved wrong by men of science who have done real tests, about what can be tested -like the geo-centric universe, and the electric universe, for instance, including electric sun and stars.Thunderbolts home

.... I am going to go with educated scientists that have witnessed the facts for themselves. Thanks

Whose" facts" you choose to believe is your business, but they are not your facts, and the choices you make are biased for unbelief, with no reason to stand on that passes any truth test in the real world.

Better have a look at the stats at the bottom of this page before making generic, unfounded, claims.Thunderbolts multimedia

Whose" facts" you choose to believe is your business, but they are not your facts, and the choices you make are biased for unbelief, with no reason to stand on that passes any truth test in the real world.

Better have a look at the stats at the bottom of this page before making generic, unfounded, claims.Thunderbolts multimedia

They are facts that normal rational people can see for themselves. Not just mine

We are going to a funeral for this thread unless we get it back on topic,it ain't gonna matter what orbits what, this thread could end up dead.

Don't expect actual discussion about the topic from the atheist crowd on this board. They only know how to attack and derail.

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