No lie. There's many first dates I went on that were last dates because of perfume. There's at least one scent that makes me physically sick. Don't know the name, but it's a very cloying soapy smell. Give me a smoker with green teeth before a woman with that stench. Then what do you say? "I think I might like you, but your signature scent you've probably worn for 10 or more years makes me puke." Nah. You just say, "I'll call you next week."

I should start a public campaign against perfume because I don't like that smell. But, I'll invent some health science to support my crusade against a smell I don't like, like the pheromones are bad for my sensitive eyes, or something. That way I can rail against perfume on health grounds, even though it's really my personal dislike of the stink that's at the heart of the matter. That's what I always suspect, whenever I see or hear arguments against smoking that spend most of the time dwelling on the smell.

People have the right to kill themselves any way they want , I think we have been in enough wars for some form of freedom and now the politicians want to tell you what to do and where ! What kind of freedom is that ? The second hand smoke bullshit is just that bullshit ! I grew up in smoke filled poolrooms where there were old man in there 80's all over the place puffing like chimneys and if second hand smoke had any merit , everyone would have been dead in a week ! When its your time its your time period . How about all the car fumes you inhale everyday in traffic ? do you think that might be killing you a little faster than smoke ? If you dont think so just start your and take a nap ! you can just sit in your car with 10 smokers without the engine running you wont die ! We all die from different things and people should just accept the fact and quit blaming it on second hand smoke ! There should be areas for smokers and areas for non smokers . If your a non smoker you have'nt any business being in a smoking area . All smoking ares should have a good ventilation system , Smoke does rise ! If someone dies of anything premature its sad whether its from smoking or cancer or whatever . I'll tell you whats worse to see thats some person that is so old he or she cannot take care of themselves and has'nt any real life left and cannot wait to die because they cannot enjoy life anymore ! Thats sad ! If you just quit complaining about everything in life you personally dont like you might live longer without stress a real killer ! Just remember when the government told you soy products prevent cancer and a bunch of idiots bought all soy products like they were a miracle drug ! The soy manufacturers got rich . People eating SOY BURGERS and soy milk ! What a joke ! Oh thats right after a few years they announced soy products do not help prevent cancer !

In response, smoke stink is better than how some of the trainer's stink that wear the same clothes for 3 days. Look around, they have have hay & straw hanging off of them and wear sweat pants. I would prefer smoke stink.

It is a different story if you get stuffed up and start coughing in such an environment. Also, the smell goes home with you and continues to affect your sinuses. Cancer is the main concern, but there are other problems caused by this habit. I seem to remember Terry with a cigarette once so his sympathies might be compromised.

My wife was a radiation technology therapist for 27 years treating cancer. She often reported on the suffering of the lung cancer patients. Also, it is disheartening to see people walking around with oxygen tanks struggling to breath. You pro-smokers or those with sympathy to smokers would not be so pompous or philosophical about life if you watched enough of the above suffer.

It is a different story if you get stuffed up and start coughing in such an environment. Also, the smell goes home with you and continues to affect your sinuses. Cancer is the main concern, but there are other problems caused by this habit. I seem to remember Terry with a cigarette once so his sympathies might be compromised.

My sympathies aren't "compromised", my opinion is different from yours. I haven't smoked for over two years and don't like cigarette smell anymore myself. It's unpleasant, and I try to avoid it, but there are no health concerns. The point is, that smell is no different from any other smell you're subjected to on a daily basis. Did you ever have to work in a cubicle stuck day after day next to a woman who drenches herself in Eau de Stinkbomb? You come home sick and with a headache from that, too. If you ever said anything, you'd find yourself in HR with a sexual harassment complaint. Ever stuck in a car in traffic next to diesel trucks, day after day on your commute to work? Lived or worked downwind from a factory or farm of any sort? There's stinks in life. Sorry about that.

If you don't like the smoke getting on your clothes, it's simple, don't go where there's smoking. If there's a problem in a facility that's supposed to be non-smoking, like started this thread about Trackside, complain to the management. Do what Pete does, and take the north stairs. I really don't understand why the smokers aren't kicked totally outside there, like everywhere else. When I smoked, I accepted that.

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My wife was a radiation technology therapist for 27 years treating cancer. She often reported on the suffering of the lung cancer patients. Also, it is disheartening to see people walking around with oxygen tanks struggling to breath. You pro-smokers or those with sympathy to smokers would not be so pompous or philosophical about life if you watched enough of the above suffer.

None of those cancer cases was caused by the smell of cigarettes. Possibly from the smoke, but not from the smell that lingers on other people. Make all the arguments you want about what smoke does. Knock yourselves out debating secondhand smoke. PLEASE quit hiding personal dislikes of the "ashtray smell" behind the second hand smoke argument.

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Black children may be far more susceptible to the ill effects of second-hand tobacco smoke than their white counterparts, U.S. researchers said on Monday

In a study of 220 children with asthma, black children who were exposed to at least five cigarettes a day had significantly higher toxin levels in their hair and blood than white children who were exposed to the same amount of smoke.

The study, published in the March issue of the journal Chest, may shed light on why black children are more susceptible to tobacco-related disorders, like asthma, sudden-infant death syndrome and low birth weight, said Dr. Stephen Wilson of the University of Cincinnati, who led the research.

"For some reason, African-American children may metabolize or break down nicotine ... more slowly than white children," Wilson said in a telephone interview.

Wilson and colleagues at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center tested children aged 5 to 12 for levels of cotinine, a byproduct of nicotine that has been processed by the body. Slightly more than half of the children, 55 percent, were black. The rest were white.

Researchers collected blood and hair samples for a year. To avoid any underreporting of tobacco exposure by parents, researchers measured levels of tobacco smoke in the home at six months and 12 months using an instrument called a nicotine dosimeter.

While nicotine exposure levels in the home were similar, researchers found that black children showed significantly higher levels of cotinine compared to white children.

On average, cotinine levels in blood samples collected from black children were 32 percent higher than the white participants.

The difference was even more striking in hair samples, with cotinine levels in black children measuring four times higher than those of white participants.

Wilson said the study raises questions about whether ethnic differences play a role in other tobacco toxins.

"It probably generates a lot more questions than it answers about why we see such striking rates of tobacco-associated morbidity (sickness) in African-Americans," he said.

Wilson and others said the study provides one more reason for limiting children's exposure to second-hand smoke.

To you who posted the smell of smoking is not a valid reason to complain: I really think SOME people would be surprised how bad they stink and would think twice about smoking if they knew. Thus, maybe they would try to stop. Saving their lives and maybe some others.

As for perfume, I get it. In church, if it's warm and I sit by a woman with too much or terrible perfume on, I get up and GO. I think God forgives me. I guess that argument doesn't do it for me though, because I'm hardly ever near any woman with bad perfume.