emperior wrote:Super (or a new Dragon Ball show) will come back, stronger than ever. We could get new designs (Takahashi's designs anyone?), old sounds from DBZ, new and better colors and a better schedule which means better episodes, in terms of art, animation, storyboard, writing and direction.
Do you like Dragon Ball and want it to be as good as it can be, and want it to last many years? Then be hyped for this hiatus, because if they play their cards right (and why wouldn't they, considering how insanely popular DB is) then the new show will be the best Dragon Ball show ever. It will build upon all the good Super has done, and it won't be rushed like Super was.
It will be hard to not have a new Dragon Ball episode every week, but that's a price I'm willing to pay to see Dragon Ball coming back better than ever.

old sounds, better colors and art???? it seems like yoo are to much on nostalgia

I could be, but a man can dream right? Considering how much they have been pushing for nostalgia in the story, it's time for them to realize that the true nostalgia is in the old look and colors. It's not about bringing back Future Trunks and Freeza 1000 times, or even introducing a female Broly. Considering how praised Takahashi's art was, it's not entirely a stretch to speculate Toei may hire him or someone else other than Yamamuro to handle the designs for the next Dragon Ball show.

Given that Fuji TV has no plans yet for a new series, I'd say this is probably the official end of Super but not the franchise overall. I don't think the next series will be a Super part two or anything like that.

They do say "it's not over" in the announcement, which I'm assuming is referring to Dragon Ball as a whole rather than just Super.

SirTorra wrote:I'm glad Super is finally ending. It tarnished the legacy of Dragonball more than it helped it. It was a train wreck from start to finish. Hopefully if they do continue it, they take atleast a year after the movie to sit down and write a decent story for once with the proper animation it deserves. It's also time for a time skip. Retire goku and Vegeta and let rhe new generation take center stage. But knowing toei and toriyama that won't happen.

SirTorra wrote:I'm glad Super is finally ending. It tarnished the legacy of Dragonball more than it helped it. It was a train wreck from start to finish. Hopefully if they do continue it, they take atleast a year after the movie to sit down and write a decent story for once with the proper animation it deserves. It's also time for a time skip. Retire goku and Vegeta and let rhe new generation take center stage. But knowing toei and toriyama that won't happen.

Right, a series with high ratings, made a ton of money, and got people back into the series ‘tarnished the legacy of Dragonball‘. Opinions on quality, but what you stated is factually untrue.

BlueBasilisk wrote:They do say "it's not over" in the announcement, which I'm assuming is referring to Dragon Ball as a whole rather than just Super.

Agreed. I feel confident that a new series in 2019 or whenever wouldn't simply be called Dragon Ball Super; I believe it would be a completely new series separate from Super yet continuing its story to a certain extent, if that makes sense.

Yeah, i kinda knew super was going to end this arc. Once they introduced jiren, as the mortal stronger than a god, stronger than what gokus benchmark was set up to be at the beginning of super, i knew that introducing someone even higher than jiren as an opponent or next antagonist was going to take a looooong time. Lets see where they take it. Definitely not the end of the series as a whole, but it seems to be the end of super for now.

BlueBasilisk wrote:They do say "it's not over" in the announcement, which I'm assuming is referring to Dragon Ball as a whole rather than just Super.

Agreed. I feel confident that a new series in 2019 or whenever wouldn't simply be called Dragon Ball Super; I believe it would be a completely new series separate from Super yet continuing its story to a certain extent, if that makes sense.

I hope not since I don’t want to wait another two years for the dub to be allowed.

Kanassa wrote:

precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.

Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

Given that Fuji TV has no plans yet for a new series, I'd say this is probably the official end of Super but not the franchise overall. I don't think the next series will be a Super part two or anything like that.

They do say "it's not over" in the announcement, which I'm assuming is referring to Dragon Ball as a whole rather than just Super.

SirTorra wrote:I'm glad Super is finally ending. It tarnished the legacy of Dragonball more than it helped it. It was a train wreck from start to finish. Hopefully if they do continue it, they take atleast a year after the movie to sit down and write a decent story for once with the proper animation it deserves. It's also time for a time skip. Retire goku and Vegeta and let rhe new generation take center stage. But knowing toei and toriyama that won't happen.

Right, a series with high ratings, made a ton of money, and got people back into the series ‘tarnished the legacy of Dragonball‘. Opinions on quality, but what you stated is factually untrue.

My second sentence is more of my opinion that many other people who understand basic story telling and basic art and animation agree with. How they handled Super was embarrassing. DB already had simple stories and characters. Super couldn't even handle that aspect well. As for the ratings, yea people watched it because it was Dragonball. It had the benefit of having a beloved franchise name attached to it. That's why people watched it, they expected Dragonball not hot garbage. As for the money, how much did Super sell on its own? Characters like hit, black, future trunks, Jiren, and all characters introduced in super, how did they sell? Less than the original characters like goku, vegeta and piccolo thats for sure. Super helped the legacy of DB as much as GT did if not less.

I found something interesting there, too, that I think people have over looked: "This site likewise says the new Kitaro series will start in the 9:00 AM Sunday timeslot on April 1st, and that DB's broadcast afterwards is still "under discussion."

No, but seriously - As a sub AND dub fan, I do appreciate that this hiatus or finale or whatever will give more spotlight to the dub before DB's possible new series. So many dub fans have become sub fans as a result of Super and I'd like to see the reverse happen in the sub's absence. It probably won't for many fans, but hey - There's sure to be some who desperately want to discuss Super on a weekly basis again and the dub will be waiting

Incredibly saddened to hear of the hiatus. Dragon Ball Super up until now has been an imperfect, flawed, but incredibly fun series that I've genuinely enjoyed watching over the last couple of years.

Is it the most technically excellent show? No. Is its original story concepts and overall writing up to the standards of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z? Probably debatable, but also probably no. No one is saying it was perfect. But there are many of us, myself included, who derived enjoyment from the show. I'll be sad to lose it, and I hope it isn't forever.

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I found something interesting there, too, that I think people have over looked: "This site likewise says the new Kitaro series will start in the 9:00 AM Sunday timeslot on April 1st, and that DB's broadcast afterwards is still "under discussion."

Chances are they're waiting to see how the new movie plays out to see where to go from there. They'll likely use the movie to jump start a new series.

SirTorra wrote:I'm glad Super is finally ending. It tarnished the legacy of Dragonball more than it helped it. It was a train wreck from start to finish. Hopefully if they do continue it, they take atleast a year after the movie to sit down and write a decent story for once with the proper animation it deserves. It's also time for a time skip. Retire goku and Vegeta and let rhe new generation take center stage. But knowing toei and toriyama that won't happen.

Right, a series with high ratings, made a ton of money, and got people back into the series ‘tarnished the legacy of Dragonball‘. Opinions on quality, but what you stated is factually untrue.

My second sentence is more of my opinion that many other people who understand basic story telling and basic art and animation agree with. How they handled Super was embarrassing. DB already had simple stories and characters. Super couldn't even handle that aspect well. As for the ratings, yea people watched it because it was Dragonball. It had the benefit of having a beloved franchise name attached to it. That's why people watched it, they expected Dragonball not hot garbage. As for the money, how much did Super sell on its own? Characters like hit, black, future trunks, Jiren, and all characters introduced in super, how did they sell? Less than the original characters like goku, vegeta and piccolo thats for sure. Super helped the legacy of DB as much as GT did if not less.

What the hell are you talking about? Current db has even surpassed Gundam in sales, to think that super has brought just a little to this franchise is ridiculous. Also by the way if super's popularity was only due to having the db logo, then explain to me how it has been much more succesful than Kai which was literally Z but with different music and no filler?

You're making load of assumptions here.

I really miss ma boy, Black

dbgtFO wrote:

Spoiler:

I suppose Toei should be commended for showing a progression in Roshi's predilection for molesting women, he starts out just being your typical old pervert, who gets incredibly embarrassed just requesting to see panties, boobs, puff-puffs, you name it, before daring to attempt feeling up unconscious women.

3 years later and kinda going hand in hand with his increase in power, he has no problem with foregoing the requests and just grabbing women's butts, whether that be Bulma or flight attendants and nurses even later on. He keeps at that level all throughout Z, where we even get further scenes of him grabbing Maron's boob, but she's a bitch and I hear she was out to get Krillin for insurance fraud?, so that's A-OK!
And then he grabs #18's boobs, but she killed millions of people in the alternate timeline, so that's the least she could give up for her alternate self's atrocities!

Finally in Super, Roshi has stepped up his game even further and as we find out he has also acquired unfathomable power, so it makes sense he would be so incredibly aggressive now to the point, where he doesn't even hide it anymore and just takes whatever girl he wants, despite their protests.
However knowing full well he's about to jump off a slippery slope, he decides to train away his perversions, so he doesn't get to the point, where he crosses that unforgivable line.
Even at Toei they realized he was just about on the verge of going too far, so they give him one last despicable act to make his training that more meaningful or something