Friday, November 11, 2005

The NY Post Article

First of all, I would very much like to thank 'Fraggle Rock' for bringing this article to my attention. Prussian Blue and their mother are, apparently, seeking more publicity by agreeing to participate in future interviews. Read on and enjoy!

THE teenage white supremacist twins, Lynx and Lamb Gaede, have gone into hiding after their controversial ABC special on Oct. 20 portrayed the blue-eyed Olsen lookalikes as racist ranters. But Teen People, edited by Lori Majewski, has apparently scored an exclusive interview with the controversial duet. The twins have a band called Prussian Blue, are popular at neo-Nazi events and have been praised by one-time Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke. Lamb has been quoted as saying: "Men like Adolf Hitler and Rudolf Hess are our heroes."

It was a battle between the teen magazines, and at least one rival is claiming Teen People is bending some journalistic rules to reel in the 13-year-old twins. It seems Elle Girl, which is edited by Christina Kelly, was originally going to do the story. But at the last minute the girls backed out. Insiders there said they were informed by the twins' mom, April, that the girls were going with Teen People because the Time Inc.-owned monthly had agreed to let them vet the article before it ran. That would be a no-no at Time Inc., which owns Teen People. Objective reporters on mainstream magazines don't surrender editorial control to the subjects they are covering. Teen People's big sister, People, has been in a slugfest on just that topic with the new import OK!, which promises to give celebrities editorial control.

Jeremy Helligar, the deputy editor to Majewski at Teen People, insists that the magazine made no such promise. "Getting the story was a team effort," said Helligar. "We don't give editorial control, but I think people know we stand for fairness and accuracy."

He said that if the magazine was doing a first-person story, it would allow the subjects to have what he called a "readback." Helligar insisted the mag's only promise was "to portray them fairly and accurately."

But the Elle Girl insiders say they called back, and the twins are under the impression they're getting a prior-to-publication review of the article — with a chance to make corrections. The girls' father, Bill Gaede, who uses a swastika as a brand for his cattle, insisted in published reports that they are not spreading hate, but are only exercising their freedom of speech rights. "We must secure the existence of our people and our future for white children," Lamb Gaede told ABC's Cynthia McFadden on "Primetime."

In their recordings, the California-based twins urge: "Aryan man awake, how much more will you take, turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake." Their appearance on the ABC special triggered widespread criticism. Their Q & A is expected to hit in the February issue of Teen People.

I wonder how teenpeople will portray them. They better not glorify that "music" or the idiots that produce it. Usually I am all for freedom of speech....But when it's something as ignorant and stupid as white supremacy, the people trying to spread it deserve to be trashed. I hope TeenPeople gets them to do the interview, then when it's published, doesn't portray them too nicely.

I agree. The magazine will certainly get a lot of feedbacks on this segment, for sure. I'll be looking forward to it for my own amusement.

By the way, something's been really bothering me. The twins are now in public school, right? I wonder, what will the twins do when they start learning about US History --> slavery, civil rights, etc.? Will they oppose or what?

I thought that they went to a public school in middle school and elementary or something but are now homeschooled...Anyways, I really want to know how they fared in a public school. I know that in every liberal public school I've ever gone to, racism was the worst offense a white person could do, and anything that could be even somewhat racist was considered grounds for violence...How the hell did those two get out alive?

The more people that know their stance, the more records they will sell.Their video "Victory Day" at ifilm.com has 34,445 views, and is rated 3 out of 5 stars, which is pretty good considering all the Jewish Supremacist brainwashed lemmings there are out there, who are automatically going to give them only 1 star for going against the Jewish agenda grain.

Byronio, you sir are a cunt. You can't possibly continue to blame everything on jewish people in all of your statements. Please, pick another group to attack. Maybe then you'd make a little bit of sense. I'm sorry you came across someone that was jewish and they pissed you off one day, but if you want to continue trashing them please make LOGICAL statements. My i.q. is severely lowered every time I read your responses.

So Lamb and Lynx have essentially been brainwashed by their mother. And because of the way their lives are going now, they are going to continue to feel the effects of this for years to come. The girls are not going to be safe - they are already receiving threats. Why would these teen magazines want to interview them? I think the whole white movement is based on delusions. A great race war? and being "Aryan"? I hate to break it to all my fellow crackers, but the Aryans were persian. Sorry guys, please check yourself in to your nearest psych facility and let them know of your delusions of "race" grandeur.

The girls were enrolled in public school in Bakersfield, California for a short period of time in middle school (late 2004 and early 2005). The middle school had a mostly white enrollment, and they were popular due to the fact that they had released a little-known album.

The girls started receiving threats once their views became public knowledge. Also, April was angry when she spotted them dancing to a rap song during cheerleader practice. The twins were subsequently yanked out of public school after only a few short, pitiful months.

On the positive side, Lynx was awarded with the accolade of '7th grade princess', whereas Lamb won the 7th grade history award.

Wait.....How the hell does miss "hitler was awesome lolz he didn't kill six million, only one million cause dats so much better lloooolllll" win a HISTORY AWARD? Stupid teachers should have never given her that award.

Amethyst23 said... Their stepdad, Mark, was a public school teacher in Bakersfield as well as an unapologetic neo-Nazi. It wouldn't surprise me if their history teacher secretly sympathized with their warped views.

According to the Jewish Supremacist organization the "ADL", Kevin Strom was recruited into the movement by a high schol teacher.

Hmmm..Maybe some of these teachers actually have a conscience.

It must be hard having to perpetuate a lie and teach the Jewish Supremacist version of history in order to keep your job, yet inside you know the truth, and are sympathetic to students who know the truth as well.

Byronio, would you like to amuse me and answer a burning question of mine?

I'm fifteen. Female. Half-Jewish on my dad's side. Wasn't raised with much Jewish identity, but still proud of my heritage. What about me is so threatening to you? Why would you hate me just because of my genes?

"Byronio, would you like to amuse me and answer a burning question of mine?

I'm fifteen. Female. Half-Jewish on my dad's side. Wasn't raised with much Jewish identity, but still proud of my heritage. What about me is so threatening to you? Why would you hate me just because of my genes?"

"It must be hard having to perpetuate a lie and teach the Jewish Supremacist version of history in order to keep your job, yet inside you know the truth, and are sympathetic to students who know the truth as well."

You should check out "The Good Old Days: The Holocaust as seen by It's Perpetrators and Bystanders" and "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", both of which were researched using Germany's documents, Nazi journals, etc. at the time.

Anti-Semites simply want you to think that there are two sides to the story, but it's no different than saying that the Earth is flat, and that's why you look like lunatics or idiots.

Should more teenagers sing songs about skinheads and then go on national televison to talk about it?

After all we know about 'sundown towns' and Jim Crow, why would people suddenly say to themselves: "Oh, you know what? These guys were right all along! Let's get these people from the NA that can't even run a small organization to take charge of everything!"

Because they are perfect role models for the youth of our society___________________________________

That comment scares me. How these two could be considered as role-models is beyond me! When this interview/article/whatever comes out, I imagine that the Gaede clan will have lots of death threats on their hands. Poor creatures!

Yeah, and I heard one of those threats was that black men would rape them. But I'm guessing some of the threats are going to be more severe. Ouch.

Oh, I read a document on how some blue collar Americans are slipping into poverty, and that this was what WN's were waiting for. A member even said that the twins will reel in those men ranging from 15-25 yrs. to join the NA. Funny, do the WN's laugh at their brethren's conditions and use them to their advantage or what? Sounds to me they're using the twins too. Hm, how strange.

Yelena Dorkus-Maximus said... Byronio, would you like to amuse me and answer a burning question of mine?

I'm fifteen. Female. Half-Jewish on my dad's side. Wasn't raised with much Jewish identity, but still proud of my heritage. What about me is so threatening to you? Why would you hate me just because of my genes?

For the umteenth million time, I don't hate Jews.

I just disagree with the Jew plan of race-mixing, media/government/banking and finance/church/educational system control, etc.

Some people won't even accept the basic premise that Jews control the media, regardless of the fact that it has been very well documented.

But you are a perfect example, you are half Jewish and readily admit to being against white nationalism.

You support a multiracial society, just like the rest of the Jews. It's in your genes to do so.

You say you are proud of your heritage, yet your heritage has already been polluted with race-mixing itself.

I am not supposed to consider it threatening to have you support the destruction of my race?

So, I am supposed to hate myself and be ashamed of my background, even though I didn't choose it, just because it isn't "pure" enough for you? Just as you have a right to be proud of your background, I have a right to be proud of mine, and so does everybody.

If somebody wants to show pride in the fact that they are white, I have nothing against that. But when it comes with putting down other races, that's just stupid.

Our genes mean nothing. Albert Einstein was "polluted", as you would call him. He was still way smarter and wiser than any "pure" Hitler.

Ummm, yelena. The WN don't think much good about Einstein. The story I've seen is they think he was a major plagiarist who never came up with a single idea of his own. Of course, nothing was ever invented by anyone other than whites, ya know? ;-)

You know what WNs, and pretty much any racists, remind me of? Those annoying, stupid, prissy girls in elementary and middle school, the ones who will pick on anyone who doesn't act/dress exactly like them, and use retard logic to justify it. The kids that are pussy enough to fear anybody not exactly like them. I hate people like that.

I just disagree with the Jew plan of race-mixing, media/government/banking and finance/church/educational system control, etc.

"No, really - I don't hate Jews - I just consider them a primordially malevolent conspiratorial force that uses nigh-mystical collective powers to manipulate pretty much the entire world to my genetic detriment."

*laughs ass off*

BTW, "Jew plan" is a slur, genius, and it doesn't really support your thesis that you don't hate Jews.

You support a multiracial society, just like the rest of the Jews. It's in your genes to do so.

..."The concept of race is a social and cultural construction. . . . Race simply cannot be tested or proven scientifically," according to a policy statement by the American Anthropological Association. "It is clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. The concept of 'race' has no validity . . . in the human species." ...

..."We don't even come close to having enough genetic diversity for races, or subspecies -- not close," said Robert Sussman, an anthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis and editor of a newsletter of the anthropological association that has taken on race and racism as its yearlong theme.

One reason race is a myth, the great majority of anthropologists agree, is that there has not been enough time for much difference to build up between human beings. By most measures, modern humans arose in Africa less than 200,000 years ago, a short time by evolutionary time scales. And the migration out of Africa by the ancestors of today's Europeans, Asians, and North and South Americans took place less than 100,000 years ago.

Environmental pressure produced different physical appearances, including slightly different physiques, and Africa has the most human genetic diversity of any continent.

"But the environment, literally, works only on the surface, changing skin and hair a little bit," said Luigi Cavalli-Sforza, a Stanford University geneticist."Underneath, there has been little change." ...

...Teaching that racial categories lack biological validity can be as much of a challenge as teaching in the 17th century that the Earth goes around the sun," said Marks.

I'll even go so far as to admit that maybe it's possible that all races of people descended from the same ancestors, but even if that's true there was a branching off at some point, and different races emerged developing differing characteristics.

A trained person can distinguish race just from a skeleton, or even a single bone.

Ugh, I don't think I'll ever understand white nationalists. You say that just because I am half Jewish, that I support the destruction of your race, but that isn't true at all. I don't care who you breed with - if you want it to be a white person, go ahead, I wouldn't call that racist. But you can still be nice to and get along with people who don't look exactly like you.

Byronio, the problem here is that there are many other ways to classify 'races'-- ones which would give us very different results:

RACE WITHOUT COLOR Jared Diamond Discover Magazine November 1994

"Basing race on body chemistry makes no more sense than basing race on appearance--but at least you get to move the membership around.

Science often violates simple common sense. Our eyes tell us that the Earth is flat, that the sun revolves around the Earth, and that we humans are not animals. But we now ignore that evidence of our senses. We have learned that our planet is in fact round and revolves around the sun, and that humans are slightly modified chimpanzees. The reality of human races is another commonsense "truth" destined to follow the flat Earth into oblivion.

The commonsense view of races goes somewhat as follows. All native Swedes differ from all native Nigerians in appearance: there is no Swede whom you would mistake for a Nigerian, and vice versa. Swedes have lighter skin than Nigerians do. They also generally have blond or light brown hair, while Nigerians have very dark hair. Nigerians usually have more tightly coiled hair than Swedes do, dark eyes as opposed to eyes that are blue or gray, and fuller lips and broader noses.

In addition, other Europeans look much more like Swedes than like Nigerians, while other peoples of sub-Saharan Africa--except perhaps the Khoisan peoples of southern Africa--look much more like Nigerians than like Swedes.

Yes, skin color does get darker in Europe toward the Mediterranean, but it is still lighter than the skin of sub-Saharan Africans. In Europe, very dark or curly hair becomes more common outside Scandinavia, but European hair is still not as tightly coiled as in Africa. Since it's easy then to distinguish almost any native European from any native sub-Saharan African, we recognize Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans as distinct races, which we name for their skin colors: whites and blacks, respectively.

What could be more objective?

As it turns out, this seemingly unassailable reasoning is not objective.

There are many different, equally valid procedures for defining races, and those different procedures yield very different classifications. One such procedure would group Italians and Greeks with most African blacks. It would classify Xhosas--the South African "black" group to which President Nelson Mandela belongs--with Swedes rather than Nigerians. Another equally valid procedure would place Swedes with Fulani (a Nigerian "black" group) and not with Italians, who would again be grouped with most other African blacks. Still another procedure would keep Swedes and Italians separate from all African blacks but would throw the Swedes and Italians into the same race as New Guineans and American Indians. Faced with such differing classifications, many anthropologists today conclude that one cannot recognize any human races at all."

It gets worse when you try to classify people according to traits that are extremely variable among individuals to whole groups, such as when you said in another post: "It's in your genes to do so." That's the socially constructed part. When you live in a racist culture, it might shape the way you see reality and you might think these things are true, but they won't stand up to scientific scrutiny.

Still another procedure would keep Swedes and Italians separate from all African blacks but would throw the Swedes and Italians into the same race as New Guineans and American Indians. Faced with such differing classifications, many anthropologists today conclude that one cannot recognize any human races at all."

That is precisely why scientists have come up with rational social grouping for race in relation to their biological differences and how those "races" choose to define themselves.

This has been explained more fully before by people more articulate than me. The whole point of classification is to serve a useful purpose.

How meaningful is it, though? If the differences between individuals is greater with IQ scores, then wouldn't these be more meaningful than looking at the mean score of a group?

That first article was a bit odd. I'm surprised that someone would still think that measuring people's head's would come up with any meaningful results. The correlation could be +1 and that still wouldn't prove that race is the cause, or even the strongest determining factor of someone's IQ. What about the Flynn Effect? Furthermore, scientists point to the lateral prefrontal cortex as the 'site of IQ'.

There's also a correlation between Eagle Scouthood and serial killing - a disproportionately high number of apprehended serial killers were Eagle Scouts, including John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer - but that doesn't mean one causes the other.

And the .44 figure is high - the most reliable estimate is around .35. In other words, given that the best and most recent data, the NAESP math section, indicates that the Black-White testing gap has narrowed to about 10 points, only around 12% of the variation could possibly be explained by brain size differences - a little over one point.

Besides, Rushton's use of brain data is well-known to be bogus when applied to racial variation. Just to begin with, the formula he uses to measure cranial capacity - the German formula - is commonly understood to be inaccurate for African head shapes, which are typically less spherical than European craniums.

People in colder climates usually evolve spherical skull shapes to keep body heat from radiating away in that environment.

When you apply the Ainu forumula for dolichocephalicskull shapes more common for African Americans, the differential virtually disappears.

Did anybody else catch that the article says Bill Gaede is the girls' father? I guess it's not all that important, but I thought it was funny how it was talking about portraying them fairly and accurately, yet it made that error.

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of the media have said that. In fact, almost all of the overseas stories said Bill was their father. There must have been a single wire story that everyone was pulling from that had the mistake.

Besides, the NY Post article, what you read on this site, didn't say that they were going to portray them fairly. Teen People, who are going to do the story, did.

And we are supposed to believe April because...??? I'm sure if the rest of the article praised her girls that she would be singing another story. However, the Aussies don't want their white butts the same as we don't want them!

I came across another article from the UK's Daily Mirror which quotes the girls talking about the Auschwitz swimming pool, among other things: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16307899&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=hitler-is-our-hero--name_page.html.

Does anyone know the source of these quotes? They don't appear anywhere else online and the Mirror doesn't say they interviewed the girls themselves. Also, some of the other quotes in the article are clearly taken from the Primetime interview. I don't really want to side with April on this matter (or on anything else), but tabloids have been known to make things up.

The reporter byline is for Ryan Parry. He moved to the States last spring. He's the reporter who was able to get a job in Buckingham Palace with fake credentials prior to Bush's stay there in 2003. That sounds like the type reporter April would let into her house. Besides, if she hadn't OKed the story, I'm sure we would have heard about it by now! The story is over 2 weeks old!

Quick! Buy one or two or ten before they're all sold out! You know you've always wanted to hear two tone-deaf airheads croon repetitive two-note melodies about Nazis, acne-ridden preteen skinheads and genocide.

1. Lamb (I think that's the one, the one on top?) looks fucking disgusting. Her face looks bloated, and she looks as if she is holding her breath. Lynx's smile looks way too fake, like she's actually in a lot of physical pain and is gritting her teeth, and I've seen her do the same one in way too many pictures.

2."The path we chose"? What kind of lame-ass CD title is that? You DIDN'T fucking choose that path. Your fat and ugly mother did, and you two are just too stupid to think for yourselves and form your OWN opinions.

3. The sole reason for the Gaede's success is their gimmick, and it's awfully sad that the kind of terrible, insipid gimmick that they have can actually give them some success. The things required nowadays for success in the pop music world - looks, the ability to carry a note, and the ability to at least decently play the instruments that you are supposed to play - the Gaedes do not possess.

How dare these little pieces of OILDALE WHITE TRASH claim to be from Bakersfield. The city of Bakersfield has suffered long enough by being associated with racism and bigotry, but has actually done a pretty good job of keeping all of the meth-head inbred white trash losers confined to the cesspool of Oildale.

A breif Oildale F.A.Q.:

Q: What do you get when you combine the entire population of oldale?A: A full set of teeth and an I.Q. of 100

Q: What do you call someone who moves from Oildale to an Oklahoma trailer park?A: A social climber.

Q: Why doesn't Bakersfield P.D. have a C.S.I. unit in Oildale?A: There aren't any dental records and everyone has the same D.N.A.

Q: What is the definition of a virgin in Oildale?A: A girl who can outrun all her kinfolk.

Now you may be thinking that Oildale couldn't be all that bad, and to be quite honest, as bad as it is, it isn't as bad as Taft.

More importantly, as a guy called The Nog points out elsewhere, why aren't they playing Polka music instead of African-American influenced Rock music?

ummm because if they new that Rock music was influenced by the African American race they'd try to claim that it was a white man that started it, and the African American's stole it from them. Plus they'd just say that Polka music just isn't that darn cool

I personally think that with the girls entering their teens now, Mama Hell Cat is about to get a rude wake up call. The teen years are the hardest and they will eventually wake up and realize... Mom isn't always right.

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