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Yeah I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. In answer to your direct question to me, what would you have him do? And I mentioned specifically the Cuban Missile Crisis.

I was there. So were you. Trump ain't that and this ain't that by any stretch of the imagination.

I posted a very long dissertation on what Korea II might look like if you are interested.

I'm still confused about how you, Trix, Chargers and others have shifted from yesterday. I'm reading back posts and came across this.

Flash forward to now. North Korea took Donald Trump's fury and fire and seems to be calling his bluff.

That's exactly what they did because trump gave a poorly worded threat. He didn't say "if you guy make any motions to ATTACK us, there will be fire and furry". He made the deciding factor for us to release fire and fury to be then making "anymore threats".

NK has turned around and made three threats now.

Trix, bulls and chargers want to play the old campaign game of---"What trump REALLY meant was"

The leader of our country can't articulate to another country where we stand on what actions might take place.

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Course now that I have read that thesis of sorts the communication from that NK general makes sense. I quote:

They therefore plan to win by striking quickly, by surprise, while ROK forces are still mobilizing, US reinforcements are not yet in theatre, and while our airpower is largely committed to overcoming the DPRK integrated air defense system and targeting WMD storage sites, launchers, and command, control, and communications (C3) networks.

Think about this. By threatening Guam, it means that our US forces will need to either do nothing about the 160,000 Americans and the 16,000 dependents within what would be harms way...or the United States loses the surprise element.

The bottom line here is not just WMD. The North Koreans know that they have a small window of time. WMD is not just nuclear. Even with respect to conventional means the estimate in this thesis is tens of thousands of civilians.

It's why they are so into nukes I suppose.

The 72 hour window also I suppose is the estimate that it would take for U.S. forces to move. Ground troops. That sort of thing. Guam has become obvious.

Unlike Trump, it's tactical.

Again. GAWD.

QA/QC = CYA

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That's exactly what they did because trump gave a poorly worded threat. He didn't say "if you guy make any motions to ATTACK us, there will be fire and furry". He made the deciding factor for us to release fire and fury to be then making "anymore threats".

NK has turned around and made three threats now.

Trix, bulls and chargers want to play the old campaign game of---"What trump REALLY meant was"

The leader of our country can't articulate to another country where we stand on what actions might take place.

It would be so much easier if they just said "he f'd up".

QA/QC = CYA

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This is turning out really well. What Trump has did was ratchet up the stakes. Presumably they are giving Trump one week to apologize or it will take them a week to get stuff up and running--not sure. But they countered with 4 missiles.

So you think that Trump sitting there at the table with the white table cloth sitting next to his wife and saying whatever it is that he said in the way that he had said it--was at all intimidating or an expression of power or authority or whatever?

The absolute worse. The lowest of the low. The deepest down and dirtiest is if this were just something to throw out there to control the next news cycle.

Which I have a huge suspicion he did.

Fool me once. Shame on you.
Fool me twice. Shame on me.

I don't believe anything that man says or does.

And by the by. The tit for tat. There is no tat from Kim Jong Un. Notice that?

There's only tit. No tat.

And now the generals are responding at each other.

GAWD

Chargers response is exactly what I was talking about. Trumps EXACTt words were---

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United states. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen"

Charger comes along and says---

And he never said that they will let loose fury and hell if they continue to threaten us

But the fact is that is EXACTLY what Trump said.

So just like back during the campaign, Charger (Trix, bulls) has to tell us what trump REALLY meant...

It's obvious what Trump meant.

Call me crazy but I'd kind of like to have a potus who can say what he means. If he can't then he has no business with off the cuff remarks about something serious like this. Have people prepare a speech, or let someone else do the talking.

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Well now that he has opened Pandora's Box. Wonder what the joint chiefs of staff have to say about the first 72 hours. When is T=0.

It appears to me, having read that article, that its all about the first 72 hours.

Which puts Trump's point about those ships on the way some months back as even more pathetic, don't you think?

All may I repeat from a golf resort in New Jersey.

I mentioned that earlier on the thread. Trump tells the world we're sending an armada to deter NK from attempting another missile launch on their big weekend back in April. Armada doesn't arrive and is then seen heading the other direction.

Now Trump says "make anymore threats---you get fire and fury". NK has threatened 3 times and said trump is full of nonsense.

I can't imagine why over 60% of Americans don't think he has leadership abilities.

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Then again, the warning in one weeks time could be a coded message. The threat was to fire 4 missiles in a location near to Guam to show we mean business.

If the whole war hinges on the first 72 hours and intervention from China, the threat may not be for real. According to this thesis, the North Koreans will start Korea II by surprise. Needs surprise.

It will be interesting to see how Trump saves Face.

Trump saves face by lying. He does it all the time. Look at the wire tapping crap. The illegal votes. The numbers at his inauguration. He does stuff, lies about stuff and then makes up more bs and believes it so everything is all better. That was the whole creation of Alternative facts.

If Trump looks at a chicken and calls it a duck and you say no, Donny, that's a chicken. He's perfectly fine looking back and you saying---no I said it's a duck, I believe it's a duck, so yes, it's a duck.

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Clearly, this is just another feeble attempt by the Donald to shift the focus off of the whole Russia thing. Trump colluded with Putin to get the White House and gets caught. So he bombs Assad to make it look like he and Putin aren't really buddies. Putin boots our diplomats as just another smoke screen. Throw in Cuba, China, and North Korea. Wow, that's a lot, but with the competent capable watch dogs in DC ,the media, and here, he won't get away with these shenanigans.

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I mentioned that earlier on the thread. Trump tells the world we're sending an armada to deter NK from attempting another missile launch on their big weekend back in April. Armada doesn't arrive and is then seen heading the other direction.

Wrong. We went over all that months ago. The move was to prevent NK from da nuke test - did the test happen.

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Now Trump says "make anymore threats---you get fire and fury". NK has threatened 3 times and said trump is full of nonsense.

Sorry, no. Been through that too: Empty blather does not comprise a threat.

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise for to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. - Thomas Jefferson.

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Wrong. We went over all that months ago. The move was to prevent NK from da nuke test - did the test happen.

Sorry, no. Been through that too: Empty blather does not comprise a threat.

Yeah I know you tried to spin it until you were neck deep in dirt. Didn't change anything. Trump tried to point fingers and they couldn't understand why he ever made the claim in the first place. Just more of his blathering as you say.

You've got your lips attached to trumps butt so tightly you can't even see what a lame statement you've just made.