Sounds to me like the musical equivalent of antiperspirant ...dry and squidgy

that was meant as an example of loud bass.

you say you like daft punk? there's a ton of shiat daft punk spawned. not to mention thomas bangalter's solo work. see:

Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You

Thomas Bangalter - What To Do

Le Knight Club - Chérie D'Amoure

Crydajam - Loaded

in closing, homework is the best daft punk album

I agree about Homework!

DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl:I agree with the dull part, but the silver lining will be when the fans discover or create better music. Maybe dub step is like an evolutionary move backwards that allows for a new punctuated jump forward that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

No. That never happens. At least, it's never happened in my experience.

Bad music is NEVER a gateway to good music. People who like crap music will always like crap music and getting them into the scene via crap music doesn't compel them to want good music. It just never happens. They never develop that acquired taste....by the time the fad dies they move onto the next crap music fad after shiatting all over this one.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl:DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl:Trollin4Colon: Semi/not very related note.I like how even country music is stealing from electronic music now. My new job blasts country all day and I heard Mumford and Sons "I will wait" for the first time the other day.Take the drums out and replace it with a unce-unce beat, and its a trance anthem suitable for any rave..Good song, just made me chuckle at the idea of "Country trance"County Techno!

I really hate Skrillex simply for the ten second loop of music they play on that one multiplayer level in BLOPS2 seriously the game is painful enough to play (it's garbage, but it's the only MP title that my friends play right now) but that goddamned Skrillex loop annoys me even more.

Thank you so very much. I really do like all phases of Chicane, and yea, Offshore is a fave but i also like "Going deep" . I enjoy all eras of DP, i just like them. I know Laswell is long and legendary, but for electronic Laswell I'm also all over the place, from dark ambient to the world/goa stuff he's done (Tabla Beat Science). So, yes .. I do like goa/Psy too.

I was introduced to trance back in the mid 90's in grad school by a European friend and a 12 disc collection called "Space N Bass".

I do have the Boards' Music Has The Right to Children, and recognize a few other ones like Speedy J but you've given me so many new leads I could just kiss your fingertips with gratitude ...thank you, thank you. My long days alone in front of a computer need some texture to them.

Ishkur:DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.

Know a lot of those too...Skinny Puppy was an obsession of mine for years but there's a few there I missed.

Like I said, music taste all over the place. I have a lot of folk, old time radio, new wave, glam rock, Korean and Japanese pop, metal, etc etc , and you couldn't give me a techno suggestion that I wouldn't give a try.

Ishkur:DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.

I should mention, to not sound ungrateful up there, that I listed Chicane and the rest because I'm looking for lighter but engaging electronic music for day work. Dance beats are ok, but harder stuff (even on the "lighter" side like Lords of Acid) in my office would be a little much...

i must be an exception. i've always listened to hard rock and heavy metal. when i was young it was mostly hair metal like bon jovi and warrant, but by the time i left high school i listened to fear factory, marilyn manson, pantera, whatever. these days i've even crossed into death metal but mostly i listen to mainstream metal like lamb of god and machine head.

and i've never been rebellious or a problem for my parents. i graduated high school and college with honors, i've never been arrested, i don't do drugs or even drink alcohol. i can't think of a single argument i've ever had with my parents. i was a polite, well-mannered teenager for the most part.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl:Like I said, music taste all over the place. I have a lot of folk, old time radio, new wave, glam rock, Korean and Japanese pop, metal, etc etc , and you couldn't give me a techno suggestion that I wouldn't give a try.

Okay, Jpop and Kpop. There is more to it than just Ayumi Hamasaki and Megumi Hayashibara. There's also --

j/k

yah, I think that's enough for now.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl:I should mention, to not sound ungrateful up there, that I listed Chicane and the rest because I'm looking for lighter but engaging electronic music for day work

That's certainly what I've given you then. Good, easy muzak to plug through the day (as I said: I once listened to Peacock Tail non-stop for 7 hours.... just one of those songs that gets you through one more minute/hour/day)

Ishkur:DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: I was introduced to trance back in the mid 90's in grad school by a European friend and a 12 disc collection called "Space N Bass".

I just went to a bunch of raves.

Mmm, glow sticks, long nights and lots of Burning Man too... but then I got recruited to work in a position needing some security clearance...so that went out. But there were some decent clubs around to fill in.

Ishkur:DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Like I said, music taste all over the place. I have a lot of folk, old time radio, new wave, glam rock, Korean and Japanese pop, metal, etc etc , and you couldn't give me a techno suggestion that I wouldn't give a try.

Okay, Jpop and Kpop. There is more to it than just Ayumi Hamasaki and Megumi Hayashibara. There's also --

j/k

yah, I think that's enough for now.

Brown Eyed Girl's Abracadabra won't get out of my head some days.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: I should mention, to not sound ungrateful up there, that I listed Chicane and the rest because I'm looking for lighter but engaging electronic music for day work

That's certainly what I've given you then. Good, easy muzak to plug through the day (as I said: I once listened to Peacock Tail non-stop for 7 hours.... just one of those songs that gets you through one more minute/hour/day)

uttertosh:theMightyRegeya: I don't like dubstep, but I'm willing to bet some of the people here dissing it were fans of this:

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I've been cK1'ing to Aphex since the mid 90's. I Think Skrillex is awesome stuff.

No, seriously. They're related by genre, in as much as the Twin's 'genre' is self-defining, spanning styles from acid/breakbeat rave right up to the point where you can audibly trace the evolution of the musicalDNA of dubstep, just by listening. Dubstep, much like it's tougher older brother Techstep, have roots in tecno, D&B, Jungle, rave and acid, but has dancehall reggae and dub chromosomes stitched in there.

I thought I made my intent perfectly clear by callin Skrillex the aspergers lovechild of Kraftwerk and Buju freakin Banton, ffs. Got the desired result from Mr. Scene and his Amazingly Dorky Music History Knowledge, though.

/was around when 2step was getting the chicks back into clubs just fine.//has been writing intelligent dance music since before it was described that way.///shameless self unpromoter. No, I won't let you hear any. Not yours.//Glasgows Morphy got me writing on a 303,101,202,606, hr16 when we were both 16./Suck the left one, it's lumpier.

enderthexenocide:i must be an exception. i've always listened to hard rock and heavy metal. when i was young it was mostly hair metal like bon jovi and warrant, but by the time i left high school i listened to fear factory, marilyn manson, pantera, whatever. these days i've even crossed into death metal but mostly i listen to mainstream metal like lamb of god and machine head.

and i've never been rebellious or a problem for my parents. i graduated high school and college with honors, i've never been arrested, i don't do drugs or even drink alcohol. i can't think of a single argument i've ever had with my parents. i was a polite, well-mannered teenager for the most part.

Similar to me. I just like music with energy. I've seen Richie Havens play live, and I've seen Rob Zombie live. I've been to chiptunes concerts and I've been to rap concerts. It's all good.

I thought I made my intent perfectly clear by callin Skrillex the aspergers lovechild of Kraftwerk and Buju freakin Banton, ffs. Got the desired result from Mr. Scene and his Amazingly Dorky Music History Knowledge, though.

/was around when 2step was getting the chicks back into clubs just fine.//has been writing intelligent dance music since before it was described that way.///shameless self unpromoter. No, I won't let you hear any. Not yours.//Glasgows Morphy got me writing on a 303,101,202,606, hr16 when we were both 16./Suck the left one, it's lumpier.

Go to mpiii.com, create an account, write an intro post to get points and start downloading dozens of Hawtin live sets from that era. I'm sure there are other places to find direct link live sets but this site is clean. Kinda dead these days but I built up a good portion of my tech library from this site, back when I was more heavily into this stuff. (I still have about 2000 points I don't know what to do with...)

croesius:This has been in rotation for me since a friend gave it to me around 2000,

Richie Hawtin || Decks EFX 909

One single long track, I believe it was mixed live. Good if'n ya like it.

It's a surprisingly easy mix of ADD and being heavily anti-scenester. (I don't have the attention span to be bothered with the history of the scene, and I find people, who 'dork to the max' over the finest of magazine-article-fabricated historical nuances of the scene, to be utter bores with very little to add to my already overcrowded train of thought. I enjoy very much indeed parodying that persona at parties, falsely correcting peoples scenester-babble-rants, usually much to the amusement of others, though seldom to the scenester.

You talk with the magazine-educated wordage of the seasoned scenester. I genuinely have the image of you being a scene magazine article writer. For you are the Guardian of Music Historical Fact.

When I play, I avoid guys like you at all costs. All you want to do is talk about monologue on the scene. All I do is write the techbubbleprogtosh that I, me, want to dance to. I occasionally play some in front of other people in exchange for some k, beer and weed. My techbubbleprogtosh has many roots, none of which I actively applied. No deeper layers, just the techbubbleprogtosh that gets brainfarted through my current setup. Some people dance to it. No you can't get a copy. Not yours.

Ishkur:DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: DP is an old friend from the previous decades for me. When i was nubile and wore a lot of leather I also loved me some harder dance beats like Front 242, Ministry and more techie stuff in the genre of Kraftwerk...guess its my age slipping in.

On the heavier side of goth/ebm/industrial/aggrotech, I just discovered Phosgore last night. You want to talk loud and obnoxious? Oh my sweet lord yes. It's like Terrorfakt but less shop grinders and more high pitched squealies. Behold the delight.

uttertosh:Ishkur: It's like you're knowledgeable and ignorant at the same time.

How on Earth do you do that?

It's a surprisingly easy mix of ADD and being heavily anti-scenester. (I don't have the attention span to be bothered with the history of the scene, and I find people, who 'dork to the max' over the finest of magazine-article-fabricated historical nuances of the scene, to be utter bores with very little to add to my already overcrowded train of thought. I enjoy very much indeed parodying that persona at parties, falsely correcting peoples scenester-babble-rants, usually much to the amusement of others, though seldom to the scenester.

You talk with the magazine-educated wordage of the seasoned scenester. I genuinely have the image of you being a scene magazine article writer. For you are the Guardian of Music Historical Fact.

When I play, I avoid guys like you at all costs. All you want to do is talk about monologue on the scene. All I do is write the techbubbleprogtosh that I, me, want to dance to. I occasionally play some in front of other people in exchange for some k, beer and weed. My techbubbleprogtosh has many roots, none of which I actively applied. No deeper layers, just the techbubbleprogtosh that gets brainfarted through my current setup. Some people dance to it. No you can't get a copy. Not yours.

I like the way you think. Some of the best music I've ever heard is just one guy doing his own thing, for himself.

uttertosh:It's a surprisingly easy mix of ADD and being heavily anti-scenester. (I don't have the attention span to be bothered with the history of the scene, and I find people, who 'dork to the max' over the finest of magazine-article-fabricated historical nuances of the scene, to be utter bores with very little to add to my already overcrowded train of thought. I enjoy very much indeed parodying that persona at parties, falsely correcting peoples scenester-babble-rants, usually much to the amusement of others, though seldom to the scenester.

Ah, so you're a poseur. Gotcha.

uttertosh:You talk with the magazine-educated wordage of the seasoned scenester. I genuinely have the image of you being a scene magazine article writer. For you are the Guardian of Music Historical Fact.

How very presumptuous of you. It's wrong though.

I like helping people and fighting ignorance. You like being a dick.

You can continue on being a dick if you like.

uttertosh:When I play, I avoid guys like you at all costs. All you want to do is talk about monologue on the scene

HotWingAgenda:When I was in high school, the people that listened to the loudest, most obnoxious and rebellious music were the metalheads and goths. And they were all extremely quiet and polite when not at concerts.

All the adults I know that listen to metal are super mild-mannered with successful careers and families.

Lol, it is so true. For some reason, most of the "younger" (40-50ish) CEO's/VPs I know are huge metal fans. And I don't mean AC/DC, but they like them to, but Slayer, Megadeth, Sepultura, even a few Cannibal Corpse fans, etc. These are hospital administrators, tech company execs, drug company execs, etc.