The Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.

I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.

If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?

One can hope.

Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!

The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!

It's not fear: it's disgust, at least when you are in Troll Mode.I'm opposed to anyone who posts here in a manner contrary to theFAQ and group charter, not just you.Kevin R

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretation on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says anything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(including you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't care about the truth.

I doubt disgust has anything to do with it. There are lots of disgusting people on the internet and I have no difficulty simply ignoring them. They never make me desperate enough to make any attempt to evict them.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligent perception would have given up trying to get rid of me by now. You persist.The next time you tell me to leave will get you no better results than the last 25 times did.

It's not fear: it's disgust, at least when you are in Troll Mode.I'm opposed to anyone who posts here in a manner contrary to theFAQ and group charter, not just you.Kevin R

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretation on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says anything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(including you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't care about the truth.I doubt disgust has anything to do with it. There are lots of disgusting people on the internet and I have no difficulty simply ignoring them. They never make me desperate enough to make any attempt to evict them.Anyone with an ounce of intelligent perception would have given up trying to get rid of me by now. You persist.The next time you tell me to leave will get you no better results than the last 25 times did.

You insist on being a jackass in this group. I can't stop you,but I can kvetch about it to my heart's content.

What compels you to violate the agreed upon norms of the group?There are plenty of other places your assholeishness would bewelcomed, even celebrated.

It's not fear: it's disgust, at least when you are in Troll Mode.I'm opposed to anyone who posts here in a manner contrary to theFAQ and group charter, not just you.Kevin R

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretation on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says anything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(including you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't care about the truth.I doubt disgust has anything to do with it. There are lots of disgusting people on the internet and I have no difficulty simply ignoring them. They never make me desperate enough to make any attempt to evict them.Anyone with an ounce of intelligent perception would have given up trying to get rid of me by now. You persist.The next time you tell me to leave will get you no better results than the last 25 times did.

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretati=

on on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says an=ything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(includ=ing you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't =care about the truth.

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretati=

on on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says an=ything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(includ=ing you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't =care about the truth.

It's obvious to me that you have placed your own distorted interpretati=

on on the FAQ in order to try to intimidate into silence anyone who says an=ything you don't like. I'm not surprised. The atheists who post here(includ=ing you) are totally lacking in integrity. You are propagandists who don't =care about the truth.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.

...yes, I can relate, having been raised in a Catholic home. RememberStations of the Cross ? Every Sunday during lent we had to sufferright along with Jesus. The priest, with his incense burner (that crapmade me sneeze like crazy) and trailing altar boys, would pause ateach of the 14 stations while everyone said the Hail Mary prayer outloud. (why the hell isn't there a Hail Jesus prayer?) I dreaded lentand actually looked forward to Easter because then I knew that thisfucking station nonsense would finally be over...yeah !!!!

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.

...yes, I can relate, having been raised in a Catholic home. RememberStations of the Cross ? Every Sunday during lent we had to sufferright along with Jesus. The priest, with his incense burner (that crapmade me sneeze like crazy) and trailing altar boys, would pause ateach of the 14 stations while everyone said the Hail Mary prayer outloud. (why the hell isn't there a Hail Jesus prayer?) I dreaded lentand actually looked forward to Easter because then I knew that thisfucking station nonsense would finally be over...yeah !!!!

I was one of those trailing altar boys. I had to take my turn servingstations, on Fridays in Lent.

I started out loathing incense, and as one became more senior in thealtar boys, you started serving weddings and funerals, and eventuallywere trusted with the aspergillum and the thurible.* It was all Icould do to keep from vomiting the first time I pulled thurifer duty,but it was kind of cool, because you got to light the charcoal on fire,and pre-teen boys have a pyromaniac streak in them. Eventually, I grewto tolerate the smell.

We got small tips for serving funerals, and larger ones for weddings,so I served a lot of those. In my Catholic school, I and a couple ofclassmates who were altar boys in their parishes would get calledout of class to serve funerals. It never hurt my grades any. Theteachers wouldn't let the poor students who couldn't afford to missclass out, anyway. Those tips kept me in baseball cards and comicbooks. I saved enough to finance a good chunk of a new bicycle,along with gifts of birthday money and confirmation money.

Downside: too much time spent in church from weekday morningmasses, for no compensation!

Kevin R

* aspergillum = the dingus for flinging "holy water" at people.

Thurible = the censer for burning the incense, which the thuriferwas in charge of. The celebrant did the waving of the thurible,to spread the incense around.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.

...yes, I can relate, having been raised in a Catholic home. RememberStations of the Cross ? Every Sunday during lent we had to sufferright along with Jesus. The priest, with his incense burner (that crapmade me sneeze like crazy) and trailing altar boys, would pause ateach of the 14 stations while everyone said the Hail Mary prayer outloud. (why the hell isn't there a Hail Jesus prayer?) I dreaded lentand actually looked forward to Easter because then I knew that thisfucking station nonsense would finally be over...yeah !!!!

I was one of those trailing altar boys. I had to take my turn servingstations, on Fridays in Lent.I started out loathing incense, and as one became more senior in thealtar boys, you started serving weddings and funerals, and eventuallywere trusted with the aspergillum and the thurible.* It was all Icould do to keep from vomiting the first time I pulled thurifer duty,but it was kind of cool, because you got to light the charcoal on fire,and pre-teen boys have a pyromaniac streak in them. Eventually, I grewto tolerate the smell.We got small tips for serving funerals, and larger ones for weddings,so I served a lot of those. In my Catholic school, I and a couple ofclassmates who were altar boys in their parishes would get calledout of class to serve funerals. It never hurt my grades any. Theteachers wouldn't let the poor students who couldn't afford to missclass out, anyway. Those tips kept me in baseball cards and comicbooks. I saved enough to finance a good chunk of a new bicycle,along with gifts of birthday money and confirmation money.Downside: too much time spent in church from weekday morningmasses, for no compensation!Kevin R* aspergillum = the dingus for flinging "holy water" at people.Thurible = the censer for burning the incense, which the thuriferwas in charge of. The celebrant did the waving of the thurible,to spread the incense around.

...you lucky guy ! An altar boy ! ...well, most of my Catholic friendsbecame altar boys upon recommendation from the catechisminstructor. I, however, didn't make it. Later on, I learned from mymother, that the catechism lady had apparently found me "unsuitablefor altar boy service". My mother was always unhappy about that...Iwas totaly elated !

Post by John Locke...you lucky guy ! An altar boy ! ...well, most of my Catholic friendsbecame altar boys upon recommendation from the catechisminstructor. I, however, didn't make it. Later on, I learned from mymother, that the catechism lady had apparently found me "unsuitablefor altar boy service". My mother was always unhappy about that...Iwas totaly elated !

I had an older brother who was also an altar boy, and one whowasn't, at least not for long. Eldest brother rose to be HeadAltar Boy. I did double-duty for a few years as a choir boy, whichmeant that I served the 8:45 on Sunday mornings in the parishauditorium, then dash over to the sacristy and vest myself for the10:15 in the church building. When I hit high school I aged outof the choir, and quit the altar boys in rather spectacular fashion.

To wit:

My older brother had lined up the various servers, includingmyself, for inspection before the May Day procession to honorJosh's Mom. In the USA, Catholics do May Day, but only a fewfollow Yurpean customs involving labor and unions. We save thatfor the first Monday in September. Anywho, while waiting forFadda to give the OK on our turnout, I stepped in front of my confreresand quipped "I suppose you are all wondering why I called youhere today..." This enraged my brother, who clouted me on theside of the head, thus taking upon himself the authority toadminister corporal punishment he wouldn't have dared due with thekids from outside my family. He's 4 years older, so think of ahigh school senior sucker-punching an 8th grader. I didn't take thiswell, refusing to apologize, accusing my brother of being a tyrannicalmartinet and flinging my vestments on the sacristy steps as I fled.

I didn't get punished by my parents for this. I think they knew mybrother took the religion thing too far, sometimes. They weren'thappy with him for usurping their authority, or that of the priest.They acceded to my "resignation" from the brotherhood of the cassock.

I still went to church, and even was a lay reader in high school.I did debate and speech contests in those years, even winningone state championship at the junior varsity level. An demurrerin response to the request to read at mass would have raided eyebrows.IIRC, the Debate Nun and the Drama Nun would slip the local parishesnames of their students who would make plausible readers withexperience as public speakers.

No tips, doggone it, but I was down to only 1 mass a week. I didmiss some Sundays when travelling for tournaments.

Post by KevrobThurible = the censer for burning the incense, which the thuriferwas in charge of. The celebrant did the waving of the thurible,to spread the incense around.

A great story about Tallulah Bankhead, a great broadway star of the40s and notable drunk: After a Saturday evening out, Miss Bankheadawoke in a pew in St. Patrick's Cathedral in Manhattan, aroused by thepeal of organ music for the processional. Along came the thurifer,waving away, to whom she drawled, "Dahling, your drag is devine, butyour purse is on fire!

Post by KevrobThurible = the censer for burning the incense, which the thuriferwas in charge of. The celebrant did the waving of the thurible,to spread the incense around.

A great story about Tallulah Bankhead, a great broadway star of the40s and notable drunk: After a Saturday evening out, Miss Bankheadawoke in a pew in St. Patrick's Cathedral in Manhattan, aroused by thepeal of organ music for the processional. Along came the thurifer,waving away, to whom she drawled, "Dahling, your drag is devine, butyour purse is on fire!Whether the thurifer had any sense of humor has not been recorded.

***chuckle*****I heard that one years ago, and, whoever said it, it was hilarious.

It's past 3 pm on the US East Coast. No sign of Earl today.He must have hours of groveling ahead of him.Somebody send Tandy to the liquor store. He can pick up theManischewitz or the Mogen David.

And if his diabetes has not carried him off yet, they will surelyhelp. (Have you ever tasted either?)

Great Ghu, no. I used to see winos buying "MD 20/20" at localliquor stores, when I lived within walking distance of a popularshopping district they like to panhandle. That's a "fortified wine,"like Night Train or Thunderbird. Even at a young age, I knew to stayaway from that swill.

I understand that classier outfits are now making drinkable kosherwine, but I'm unfamiliar with the vintners who make those.

***chuckle*****I heard that one years ago, and, whoever said it, it was hilarious.

It's past 3 pm on the US East Coast. No sign of Earl today.He must have hours of groveling ahead of him.Somebody send Tandy to the liquor store. He can pick up theManischewitz or the Mogen David.

And if his diabetes has not carried him off yet, they will surelyhelp. (Have you ever tasted either?)

Great Ghu, no. I used to see winos buying "MD 20/20" at localliquor stores, when I lived within walking distance of a popularshopping district they like to panhandle. That's a "fortified wine,"like Night Train or Thunderbird. Even at a young age, I knew to stayaway from that swill.I understand that classier outfits are now making drinkable kosherwine, but I'm unfamiliar with the vintners who make those.Kevin Rhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortified_wine#Low-end_fortified_wines

Allow me to recommend Edward Hyams' _A Social History of the WineVine: Dionysus_, MacMillan 1965. This is written by one of thoseunsung International Treasures, a British "gentleman scholar" whoknows practically everything there is to know about some subjectnarrow to the point of idiosyncrasy. He observes that vines grown inthe desert (generally with irrigation) experience near steroidalgrowth, transpiring a great deal of water to produce huge grapes witha very high sugar content. Wine made from them is going to be stickysweet, and if that is what you grow up on, that is what you'll seek.After the Diaspora, Jews continued to produce sweet wine ininhospitable climates by adding sugar to it, a tradition continued byMogen David and Manischewitz. Mazel tov!

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghodtoday.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.

...yes, I can relate, having been raised in a Catholic home. RememberStations of the Cross ? Every Sunday during lent we had to suffer rightalong with Jesus. The priest, with his incense burner (that crap mademe sneeze like crazy) and trailing altar boys, would pause at each ofthe 14 stations while everyone said the Hail Mary prayer out loud. (whythe hell isn't there a Hail Jesus prayer?) I dreaded lent and actuallylooked forward to Easter because then I knew that this fucking stationnonsense would finally be over...yeah !!!!

I was one of those trailing altar boys. I had to take my turn servingstations, on Fridays in Lent.I started out loathing incense, and as one became more senior in thealtar boys, you started serving weddings and funerals, and eventuallywere trusted with the aspergillum and the thurible.* It was all I coulddo to keep from vomiting the first time I pulled thurifer duty, but itwas kind of cool, because you got to light the charcoal on fire,and pre-teen boys have a pyromaniac streak in them. Eventually, I grewto tolerate the smell.We got small tips for serving funerals, and larger ones for weddings, soI served a lot of those. In my Catholic school, I and a couple ofclassmates who were altar boys in their parishes would get called out ofclass to serve funerals. It never hurt my grades any. The teacherswouldn't let the poor students who couldn't afford to miss class out,anyway. Those tips kept me in baseball cards and comic books. I savedenough to finance a good chunk of a new bicycle,along with gifts of birthday money and confirmation money.Downside: too much time spent in church from weekday morning masses, forno compensation!Kevin R* aspergillum = the dingus for flinging "holy water" at people.Thurible = the censer for burning the incense, which the thurifer wasin charge of. The celebrant did the waving of the thurible, to spreadthe incense around.

The reason for incense burning is to hide the smell of all the rotting bodies buriedbeneath the church floor.

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how would you know what peeing on a barrel made hot by a fire insidesmells like____________________Because I have been places where people were burning trash in a 55 gallon drum and somebody kissed on it.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

Post by Meteorite DebrisPassover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

The celebration is for freedom from slavery.

[quote]

"The truth is that virtually every modern archeologist who hasinvestigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions,agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the wayit happened, if it happened at all," Wolpe told his congregants.

[/quote] - Rabbi David Wolpe, LA Times, 13 April, 2001

article continues:

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After a century of excavations trying to prove the ancient accountstrue, archeologists say there is no conclusive evidence that the Israeliteswere ever in Egypt, were ever enslaved, ever wandered in the Sinaiwilderness for 40 years or ever conquered the land of Canaan underJoshua's leadership. To the contrary, the prevailing view is that mostof Joshua's fabled military campaigns never occurred--archeologistshave uncovered ash layers and other signs of destruction at the relevant timeat only one of the many battlegrounds mentioned in the Bible.

Post by Kevrob"The truth is that virtually every modern archeologist who hasinvestigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions,agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the wayit happened, if it happened at all," Wolpe told his congregants.[/quote] - Rabbi David Wolpe, LA Times, 13 April, 2001

NARRATOR: These tantalizing connections are leading biblical scholars tore-examine the Exodus story. While there is no evidence to support a massmigration, some now believe that a small group did escape from Egypt;however, they were not Israelites but, rather, Canaanite slaves. On theirjourney back to Canaan they pass through Midian, where they are inspiredby stories of the Shasu's god, Yahu.

AVRAHAM FAUST: There was probably a group of people who fled from Egyptand had some divine experience. It was probably small, a small groupdemographically, but it was important at least in ideology.

NARRATOR: They find their way to the central hill country, where theyencounter the tribes who had fled the Canaanite city-states. Their storyof deliverance resonates in this emerging egalitarian society. Theliberated slaves attribute their freedom to the god they met in Midian,who they now call Yahweh.

[...]

NARRATOR: The identity of "Israelites." They are a combination ofdisenfranchised Canaanites, runaway slaves from Egypt and even nomads,settling down. The Bible calls them a "mixed multitude."

WILLIAM DEVER: According to the Hebrew Bible, early Israel is a motleycrew. And we know that's the case, now. But these people are boundtogether by a new vision, and I think the revolutionary spirit isprobably there from the beginning.

NARRATOR: The chosen people may actually be people who chose to be free.Their story of escape, first told by word of mouth and poetry, helpsforge a collective identity among the tribes. Later, when written down,it will become a central theme of the Bible: Exodus and divinedeliverance, deliverance by a God who comes from Midian-exactly wherethe Bible says-adopted by the Israelites to represent their exodus fromslavery to freedom.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

The celebration is for freedom from slavery.

Everybody knows what Passover means, you fucking liar.

Yes, a kill fest where all the first borns, not guilty of anything getslain by the ANGEL of the LORD just to piss off one man, the Pharaoh.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

The celebration is for freedom from slavery.

Everybody knows what Passover means, you fucking liar.

\Let's see if you know what it means:

1.Why do Jews eat Matzoh on Passover?2.What is the Hebrew word for Passover?3.What year is it now according to the Hebrew calendar?4.What are the Four Questions?5.Who asks the Four Questions?6.What is a "Seder"?7.What are "bitters?"8.Why do all Jewish holidays begin at sundown?9.What book in Judaism describes the rituals for Passover?

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

The celebration is for freedom from slavery.

Everybody knows what Passover means, you fucking liar.

\1.Why do Jews eat Matzoh on Passover?

First tell us why you eat shit on other days.http://tinyurl.com/y8rrvltw

What happened to your knowledge of Passover, you chickenshit little phony bastard?

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still

Post by Kevrobenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have

Post by Kevroba service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until

Post by Kevrobenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

Passover, when Jews celebrate a slaughter of innocent first born sons.It never happened of course but it is example of the horrors of Yahwehwhich few people give any thought to.

The celebration is for freedom from slavery.

Everybody knows what Passover means, you fucking liar.

\1.Why do Jews eat Matzoh on Passover?2.What is the Hebrew word for Passover?3.What year is it now according to the Hebrew calendar?4.What are the Four Questions?5.Who asks the Four Questions?6.What is a "Seder"?7.What are "bitters?"8.Why do all Jewish holidays begin at sundown?9.What book in Judaism describes the rituals for Passover?

Dr. Taylor states that the Israelites did not build the pyramids as iscommonly thought. The pyramids were built 100 years after theIsraelites left Egypt. What they did build were cities. The Biblestates in Exodus 1:11-14, So they appointed taskmasters over it (theIsraelite nation) in order to afflict it with their burdens; it builtstorage cities for Pharaoh, Pithom and Ramses They embittered theirlives with hard work, with mortar and with bricks 

Clearly, you like this dr taylor, are a complete and total fuckingmoron. If he for a second thing that anything at all in the bibleactually happened.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing,and scandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died"as a sin offering" or "for our sins" was formulated later byhis followers, perhaps to assuage their guilt over havingabandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when the followersof Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, that theCrucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.

These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience"as the event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge fromtheir hiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings,and to recognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

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Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

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Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

The evidence is the same for both. One is historically impossible.One does not pretend to be anything but fiction. So yes, they are astatement of fact.walksalone who enjoys mythology, & the study thereof.

Superman is also a conflation of the Moses myth, and that ofthe various mighty heroes of mythology.

[quote]

"I'm lying in bed counting sheep when all of a sudden it hits me.I conceive a character like Samson, Hercules and all the strong menI heard tell of rolled into one. Only more so."

-- Jerome Siegel

[/quote] - Up, Up and Awaaay!!! By Otto FriedrichSunday, June 24, 2001 TIME

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,148856,00.html

..and the Justice Society of America, and its spiritual descendant,the Justice League, were a modern version of the Argonauts, and theKnights of the Round Table.

The Old and New Testaments similarly borrowed from previous myths.The difference is that Siegel and Shuster were admitted fabulists.

Post by KevrobSuperman is also a conflation of the Moses myth, and that ofthe various mighty heroes of mythology.

In a previous reply, I posted part of the transcript at

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/bibles-buried-secrets.html

Scroll down the page and click on the link "Transcript."

Some time after watching this broadcast, my imagination formulatedthe following: Moses may have been the son of a Midianite chieftainwho was a slave in the mines of Sinai (note that Moses did not speakthe language of the Hebrews/Canaanites). He organized an escape of asmall group of Midianite and Canaanite slaves and leads them back toMidian. After surviving the harrowing journey through the Sinaipeninsula, the Canaanite slaves had some type of profound religiousexperience and attribute their deliverance to Yahu, the deity ofMidian. When they return to the lower-class Canaanites settlementsin the "hill country," they promote the cult of Yahu/Yaweh.

If there are any scriptwriters on this forum, feel free to usethis perfectly plausible scenario that is supported by the latestarchaeological evidence. Just give me some credit and a moderateconsideration.

There were also a bunch of Ramoses, aka Ramses. In my imagination Idismissed all of these in favor of a Midianite enslaved in a minein the Sinai Peninsula. I wish that some scriptwriter would takeme up on this.

Several years ago, a poster on another forum pointed out that Yahu,the deity of Midian, is still part of many names--in particularpart of the surname of the present Prime Minister Bibi.

Last month I happened to look up Elijah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah

and I was startled to read "Hebrew: Eliyahu, meaning 'My God is Yahu'"

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

The evidence is the same for both. One is historically impossible.

you say one is historically impossible, you failed to mention (if youwere referring to the christ subject that historically impossibilitiesare always subject to those who recorded the history. On the matter ofa Jesus Christ, No one at all EVER recorded a history of a jesuschrist, not until around 300 years after it was said to have existedwas it EVER mentioned.

Aside from the historical abnormalities what was also not mentionedwas the fact that harry potter can not exist on this planet or in thisuniverse for that matter. Now weather there is another universe calledAsgaurd or whatever remains to be seen, but I do suspect that would beextremely unlikely.

Post by walksaloneOne does not pretend to be anything but fiction. So yes, they are astatement of fact.walksalone who enjoys mythology, & the study thereof.

BTW I don't think that jesus christ can be considered mythology... Itis not quite old enough yet. It is just a pure fictional story as ofnow. Perhaps one day it will graduate from being just a fictionaltale to the great hall of mythological stories, but not yet.

you say one is historically impossible, you failed to mention (if youwere referring to the christ subject that historically impossibilitiesare always subject to those who recorded the history. On the matter ofa Jesus Christ, No one at all EVER recorded a history of a jesuschrist, not until around 300 years after it was said to have existedwas it EVER mentioned.

In the case of jesus ben joseph, legally could have been done in. Themessiah [aka king of the Jews] would work, & did work for others. Now,why not. Seems that archaeology says it, without coming out & sayingit.How so.No evidence for claimed birth or trip to Bethlehem. Why Bethlehem, tomake the connection with David.Sermon on the mount & other miracles, no one else noticed. Not good.Especially not Lazarus. If nothing else, the local gossips would havehad fun with that one.

Too many claimed events fail to show up when they should.

Post by b***@m.nuAside from the historical abnormalities what was also not mentionedwas the fact that harry potter can not exist on this planet or in thisuniverse for that matter. Now weather there is another universe calledAsgaurd or whatever remains to be seen, but I do suspect that would beextremely unlikely.

Post by walksaloneOne does not pretend to be anything but fiction. So yes, they are astatement of fact.walksalone who enjoys mythology, & the study thereof.

BTW I don't think that jesus christ can be considered mythology... It

Why not, it's not as if it is claimed to be recent. 2000+ years makesit a fairy tale at least. Serious question BTW.

Post by b***@m.nuis not quite old enough yet. It is just a pure fictional story as ofnow. Perhaps one day it will graduate from being just a fictionaltale to the great hall of mythological stories, but not yet.

walksalone who appreciates differences of opinion...that are explained.--

you say one is historically impossible, you failed to mention (if youwere referring to the christ subject that historically impossibilitiesare always subject to those who recorded the history. On the matter ofa Jesus Christ, No one at all EVER recorded a history of a jesuschrist, not until around 300 years after it was said to have existedwas it EVER mentioned.

In the case of jesus ben joseph, legally could have been done in. Themessiah [aka king of the Jews] would work, & did work for others. Now,why not. Seems that archaeology says it, without coming out & sayingit.How so.No evidence for claimed birth or trip to Bethlehem. Why Bethlehem, tomake the connection with David.Sermon on the mount & other miracles, no one else noticed. Not good.Especially not Lazarus. If nothing else, the local gossips would havehad fun with that one.Too many claimed events fail to show up when they should.

Post by b***@m.nuAside from the historical abnormalities what was also not mentionedwas the fact that harry potter can not exist on this planet or in thisuniverse for that matter. Now weather there is another universe calledAsgaurd or whatever remains to be seen, but I do suspect that would beextremely unlikely.

Post by walksaloneOne does not pretend to be anything but fiction. So yes, they are astatement of fact.walksalone who enjoys mythology, & the study thereof.

BTW I don't think that jesus christ can be considered mythology... It

Why not, it's not as if it is claimed to be recent. 2000+ years makesit a fairy tale at least. Serious question BTW.

I feel that it may be closer to 1700 years, There was not a jesuschrist before this time, there was a christos but that was a titlegiven to several people I am sure. Take the stories of the greek godsand the norse gods, they are mythology

Post by b***@m.nuis not quite old enough yet. It is just a pure fictional story as ofnow. Perhaps one day it will graduate from being just a fictionaltale to the great hall of mythological stories, but not yet.

walksalone who appreciates differences of opinion...that are explained.

Post by walksaloneWhy not, it's not as if it is claimed to be recent. 2000+ yearsmakes it a fairy tale at least. Serious question BTW.

I feel that it may be closer to 1700 years, There was not a jesuschrist before this time, there was a christos but that was a titlegiven to several people I am sure. Take the stories of the greek godsand the norse gods, they are mythology

Post by walksaloneWhy not, it's not as if it is claimed to be recent. 2000+ yearsmakes it a fairy tale at least. Serious question BTW.

I feel that it may be closer to 1700 years, There was not a jesuschrist before this time, there was a christos but that was a titlegiven to several people I am sure. Take the stories of the greek godsand the norse gods, they are mythology

Well you say recant but it is believed that some of the norse beliefof gods and such traces back to when they had their Germanic roots andthe norse mythology dates almost back to the bronze age. They havefound pottery with symbols and drawings that show this that dates fromthe bronze age.

Post by walksaloneThank you for your response.walksalone who is here to learn. & finds on occasion, he was wrong.

Well you say recant but it is believed that some of the norse beliefof gods and such traces back to when they had their Germanic roots andthe norse mythology dates almost back to the bronze age. They havefound pottery with symbols and drawings that show this that dates fromthe bronze age.

Well you say recant but it is believed that some of the norse beliefof gods and such traces back to when they had their Germanic roots andthe norse mythology dates almost back to the bronze age. They havefound pottery with symbols and drawings that show this that dates fromthe bronze age.

References. I can't read everything at the same time.

Andrén described Old Norse religion as a "cultural patchwork" whichemerged under a wide range of influences, both from earlierScandinavian religions and elements introduced from elsewhere. It mayhave had links to Nordic Bronze Age: while the putativelysolar-oriented belief system of Bronze Age Scandinavia is believed tohave died out around 500 BCE, a number of Bronze Age motifssuch asthe wheel crossreappear in later Iron Age contexts.[10] I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_religion

sorry I had actually read it the day befre my last reply to you so Idid not post the reference...

belief >> of gods and such traces back to when they had theirGermanic roots and >> the norse mythology dates almost back to thebronze age. They have >> found pottery with symbols and drawings thatshow this that dates from >> the bronze age.

Andrén described Old Norse religion as a "cultural patchwork" whichemerged under a wide range of influences, both from earlierScandinavian religions and elements introduced from elsewhere. It mayhave had links to Nordic Bronze Age: while the putativelysolar-oriented belief system of Bronze Age Scandinavia is believed tohave died out around 500 BCE, a number of Bronze Age motifssuch asthe wheel crossreappear in later Iron Age contexts.[10] Ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_religionsorry I had actually read it the day befre my last reply to you so Idid not post the reference...

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

Both are unequally unevidenced: that is a fact (unless you have somedecent non-Biblical evidence to show us).

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

actually it is, when comparing 2 items that are very similar is by allmeans a fact. It becomes a fact when it is done. It is that simple.Now just because superman is a fairy tale being compared to a jesuschrist which is in fact another fairy tale does not make thecomparison any less factual. I can compare/contrast any ideas that arereal or imaginary and have them all be a matter of fact.

Drosa I see you have a posted email with and edu domain. So let me askyou why do you believe in fairies?

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghodtoday.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

actually it is, when comparing 2 items that are very similar is by allmeans a fact. It becomes a fact when it is done. It is that simple.Now just because superman is a fairy tale being compared to a jesuschrist which is in fact another fairy tale does not make thecomparison any less factual. I can compare/contrast any ideas that arereal or imaginary and have them all be a matter of fact.Drosa I see you have a posted email with and edu domain. So let me askyou why do you believe in fairies?

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghodtoday.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, andscandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died "as asin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is forSuperman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

How can a statement of fact be a snide empty comment?

Comparing the existence of Jesus to the existence of Supermanis not a "statement of fact."

actually it is, when comparing 2 items that are very similar is by allmeans a fact. It becomes a fact when it is done. It is that simple.Now just because superman is a fairy tale being compared to a jesuschrist which is in fact another fairy tale does not make thecomparison any less factual. I can compare/contrast any ideas that arereal or imaginary and have them all be a matter of fact.Drosa I see you have a posted email with and edu domain. So let me askyou why do you believe in fairies?

My interest is in scholarship, not in fairies.

From the words that you used and what was said you do believe in thesefairies you seek information on. Now if you were a proper scholar thenyou would be seeking the truth, not seeking more reasons to believe infairy tales. There is no factual data on any of the fairies that youbelieve in, which by the way is all the fairies that have ever existedand will ever exist. That sounds crazy huh? every time a fairy isinvented You have no choice but to believe it exists. You currentlybelieve that the aforementioned superman exists and is real along withall the superfriends not to mention all the bad fairy tales includingthe big bad wolf that huffed and puffed and blew the house down....

Did you even realize how freaking stupid that you are because youbelieve in fairies??

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

Yet strangely enough, you get second billing over him in the listabove. Did you say nothing? If so, why?

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surceasefrom Tandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing,and scandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died"as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

Yet strangely enough, you get second billing over him in the list above.Did you say nothing? If so, why?

Whether he said anything or not, it still amounts to nothing?

--Smiler, The godless one. a.a.# 2279All gods are tailored to order. They're madeto exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

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Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always,hold a service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event,at 3 pm today. As a child I was taught that it was appropriateto keep quiet during the hours of noon and three, at which timewe were trooped off to church for kneeling, standing, praying,etc until roughly the time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that wewill be.....I'd say "blessed" if I were stillreligious......fortunate enough to not be spammed nor trolledthis afternoon by the christaholics who are compelled to intrudehere with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surceasefrom Tandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the countrypreacher Jesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale"orthodox" dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, theCrucifixion of Jesus was a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing,and scandalous event for his followers. The notion that he died"as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage theirguilt over having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, whenthe followers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horribledeath, that the Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory overdeath," and as a "sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to"fulfill" contrived interpretations of assorted passages from theSeptuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" asthe event that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from theirhiding places, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and torecognize him as a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

If you say so.

If you _have_ more, trot it out. Otherwise avoid making snide emptycomments.

The "snide empty comments" were made by Smiler.

Yet strangely enough, you get second billing over him in the list above.Did you say nothing? If so, why?

Whether he said anything or not, it still amounts to nothing?

What I find totally amazing is that it claims to be a scholar, yet itbelieves in fairies, it believes that the bible happened, it believesin the harry potter they call moses and christ, even though neitherone was ever written about when they were alive not even soon afterthey died.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.

That's a LIEhttps://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%20are%20the%20non-biblical%20sources%20of%20knowledge%20about%20Jesus

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, arecommemorating the supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, hold aservice (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were trooped offto church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughly the timefor a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by thechristaholics who are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease from Tandyand other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

There is some value to contemplating the Passion of the country preacherJesus of Nazareth, without the baggage of all the stale "orthodox"dogmas. According to many biblical scholars, the Crucifixion of Jesuswas a shocking, unexpected, embarrassing, and scandalous event for hisfollowers. The notion that he died "as a sin offering" or "for our sins"was formulated later by his followers, perhaps to assuage their guiltover having abandoned him. It was only after-the-fact, when thefollowers of Jesus tried to make sense out of his horrible death, thatthe Crucifixion came to be viewed as a "victory over death," and as a"sacrifice" that was "necessary" in order to "fulfill" contrivedinterpretations of assorted passages from the Septuagint.These biblical scholars refer to the "resurrection experience" as theevent that jolted the followers of Jesus to emerge from their hidingplaces, to resume the preaching of his teachings, and to recognize himas a messianic (anointed) person.

And there is no more evidence that he existed than there is for Superman.--

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday. As a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?One can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

"There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"~Toidi Uoy

That is the only thing that has any meaning during The evil days ofeaster

Post by KevrobThe Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, are commemoratingthe supposed execution of their legendary man/ghod today.I was raised Catholic, and my hometown's parish will, as always, holda service (not a mass) in observance of this alleged event, at 3 pmtoday.

Good Friday is the only day of the year in which the commeratate the death ofJesus on the cross which replaces the Holy Mass, which is the resurrection ofJesus itself.

You call it "alleged", we call it "Good".

Post by KevrobAs a child I was taught that it was appropriate to keep quietduring the hours of noon and three, at which time we were troopedoff to church for kneeling, standing, praying, etc until roughlythe time for a meatless dinner.If these traditions are still in force, does that mean that we willbe.....I'd say "blessed" if I were still religious......fortunateenough to not be spammed nor trolled this afternoon by the christaholicswho are compelled to intrude here with their nonsense?

Yet it is your nonsense that we are correcting. Your mistranslated nonsense isthe very lie that needs correction.

Post by KevrobOne can hope.Passover starts at sundown, so perhaps we will have surcease fromTandy and other observant Jews, to boot!The Christians will say "he is risen" on Sunday morning,but I will be snoozing, more than likely.Kevin R

And when you die, Jesus will be smiling at us that listen.

the dukester, American-American

*****The Purpose of the NT Word of God is not to inform as it did inthe OT,but instead to form us in the very image of Jesus Christ.*****