Posted
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samzenpus
on Monday June 13, 2011 @04:20AM
from the naming-names dept.

An anonymous reader writes "Passwords and email addresses of almost 26,000 members of adult website Pron.com have been released on the internet by the notorious hacking group LulzSec. To add to the victims' humiliation, LulzSec called on its followers to try the email/password combinations against Facebook, and tell friends and family of the users that they were subscribers to a pornographic website. In addition LulzSec released passwords belonging to the administrators of dozens of other adult websites, and highlighted military and government email addresses that had signed up for the xxx-rated services."

flag@white house.gov was for reporting misinformation about the healthcare law. With a password like Karl arc I'm pretty sure this was someone making fun of the president. In fact who has ever used their real email to sign into a porn site. I almost feel bad for the spam email dude@yahoo.com gets on account of me.

I feel a profound sense of pity for that person. To me, that choice of passwords suggests an unhealthy attachment to pornography.

I feel a profound sense of pity for you, as your post suggests you think an interest in media depicting the rich breadth of sexuality as entertainment and adjunct is unhealthy. But I forgive you, because I presume you were brought up in a social and/or religious environment that has profoundly crippled your sexual nature, as well as skewing your sense of perspective such that you incorrectly think you can infer anything significant about people you don't know, from a password.

If it's publically known, though, there's no risk of blackmail. "We will tell people that you watch porn!" "Sorry, but everyone knew that already." It'd be like someone threatening to to tell my wife that I am a nerd.

Also, a violation of General Order #1 over there (The "No Fun" order). Among other things, General Order 1 prohibits booze, porn, and males in female quarters, and females in male quarters. Ostensibly this is to be understanding to the local Muslim population, yet they serve obscene amounts of bacon in the DFACs. Of these, the only one that I have seen religiously enforced is the ban on booze. The males/females in each others quarters is solved by putting cots in the mortar shelters, or other random pla

How so? Blackmail is threatening to expose something unless the victim pays or does something for you. There's no suggestion that is happening. They're simply being published.No payment is being asked for.

#/bin/bashfor I in `cat ~/lulsec_passwords.txt | awk '{print $1}'` ; do
echo "I wanted to personally thank you for paying for porn and thereby funding the creation of the content I download for free. Sincerely P. R. Vert" | sendmail -s "Thank you very much" $Idone

On one hand, I couldn't agree more with one of the posters who said something along the lines the how people make a bog deal out of sex between consenting adults, including the watching of it. The Victorian-esque morality that most aspects of sex are something that people should be ashamed of, including porn, is not something I can relate to.

That said, I have to wonder about the kind of people who would be paying for porn. Even if you are particularly desperate, there's so much free porn on the Internet that it's almost pointless to pay for porn. Plus, if you're that desperate, just how hard is it to pick girls up at a bar (or if you're a geek Don Juan, Craigslist)? Paying for sex in any shape or form has to be one of the silliest things, given how easy it is to find women who are more than willing if you just looked around.

Well, there's always the stuff that's kinky enough that you have to pay for any quality material. Not that I can imagine what it would be considering that if you go to any of the many many sites that specialize in porn torrents or streaming porn videos you're pretty much bombarded with "xXx Thai ladyboys and dalmatian golden shower urethral insertion of baseball bat and cactus AT THE SAME TIME!!1"...

Even if you are particularly desperate, there's so much free porn on the Internet that it's almost pointless to pay for porn. Plus, if you're that desperate, just how hard is it to pick girls up at a bar (or if you're a geek Don Juan, Craigslist)?

That gets a lot more difficult for most men as they get older. I'm guessing most of the people paying for porn are not in their 20s or 30s.

"Paying for sex in any shape or form has to be one of the silliest things, given how easy it is to find women who are more than willing if you just looked around."

90% of men are incapable of getting sex for free. At a minimum, they have to pay at least for a few drinks or dinner at a restaurant. Usually multiple times, and with no guarantee of their effort and expenditure resulting in sex. Not to mention the costs of marriage and divorce.

"Plus, if you're that desperate, just how hard is it to pick girls up at a bar (or if you're a geek Don Juan, Craigslist)?"

How hard? This is Slashdot, where understanding quantum cryptography is easier than picking up women at a bar. Random sluts on Craigslist or sex-only online dating sites?... can you say STDs?

That's the pure economic cost, but that's not the biggest "cost". Have you ever had a friend that's dating someone who's a complete mismatch? That suddenly has different interests when he's with her, even though it's really out of character? I've seen a lot of strange things come and go because of regular access to pussy. Usually they end when she figures out he doesn't want to be serious with her and never will be.

The ratio of men to women who'd really like just the one night stand is nowhere near 50-50. A

I found that that most of the 'desirable' women -- ie, complete package, smart, good-looking, sexually engaged -- when I was in my twenties all were looking for way more than sex and at a minimum expected a relationship with some kind of long-term status, generally marriage, and they really favored people with some sense of financial success (good job/income).

I don't think that changes a ton as you get older. I think there may be some golden age between about 35-50 where women are divorced or decide that they don't want to be married and feel less sexually constrained.

This may be different "now" than it was when I was in my 20s, 25 years ago, but probably not a lot on average.

Except that the moral majority is also opposed to sex with a single partner, except in the context of marriage. They are also opposed to the sale of sex toys, pornography, homosexual sex, sex enhancing drugs, and many other sexual activities that carry little risk. Their opposition is not to high-risk sexual activity, but to any sexual activity that maximizes pleasure over reproduction.

The far-right's attack on sexuality goes beyond just advising people of risky behaviors. Their attack is on the very

The reason why you never hear about porn sites getting cracked is because it is fucking easy. Most porn sites are vulnerable as hell and almost anyone with some technical proficiency can exploit them. They are run by low budget companies who often just cant afford to secure their sites. Cracking porn sites are for pathetic script kiddies with little to no skill what so ever. Also what's up with trying to shame owners of porn site memberships? Fucking puritans.

It seems to me that these people did it as a slap in the face to all the geeks out there who were cheering them on "for freedom" etc. After all, they do call themselves LulzSec, and humiliating your own fanbase like that is very much "lulz"...

I think the point was that gay sex tends not to help us "to be able to spread", i.e., it's not adaptive. There are some theories that suggest it might be, though, at least in the case of male homosexuality. The whole thing about the more older brothers a man has the more likely they are to be gay has led some to speculate that nature is diverting them from reproduction (which could lead to problems with resources) to providing to their siblings (which helps genes they are likely to share). Presumably on tha

After they exposed loads of username/password combinations off some Sony service, I thought to myself; who are they actually hurting? It seemed to me they just made it loads easier for criminals without the skills to do this sort of thing themselves.

Yes, it is possible that some more sinister hackers already had this data without telling anyone, just secretly exploiting them, but actually publishing the combinations makes it many times more likely that someone will exploit your personal data.

I consider this hacking group no more than simple vandals and criminals at this stage. There is no "honour" in it, and exposing porn clients are extremely likely to be hypocritical. I don't believe for a second that all members of this hacker group has a "clean conscience" about porn.

to play devils advocate for a sec, exposing such a breach means that pron.com *has* to notify their subscribers in addition to patching the vulnerability, whereas a similar breach using the same exploit for direct criminal reasons might get hushed up in order to avoid losing business

Indeed. Customers need to be hurt A LOT in order to get conscious about security and start demanding it, or start avoiding companies like Sony - more or less forcing everyone to pay more attention into securing their services.

"Customers need to be hurt A LOT in order to get conscious about security and start demanding it, or start avoiding companies like Sony"

This does in no shape or form excuse actually hurting them. Just because someone has to be the first, doesn't mean the first is any less despicable than the second.

To use the standard lock analogy: just because some unscrupulous lock company sold their customers locks that could be defeated by someone sticking a pin into the lock, doesn't excuse someone breaking into houses

Ding ding ding! You just figured out what's wrong with 4chan,/b/, Anonymous, etc.There is no "they" there. Some are do-gooders. Some are do-badders. Some do anything for "lulz", even if it hurts someone. Some are "white-knights".So while on the one hand "they" fight to expose corporate and governmental corruption, on the other hand "they" are laughing because some naive kid's life just got ruined.

"exposing such a breach means that pron.com *has* to notify their subscribers in addition to patching the vulnerability,"

Actually, this hacker group has access to a few hacked servers and they have all the personal details of these subscribers. They could just notify the users themselves by means of a mass email. And failing that, they could easily expose the breach without revealing the customers actual passwords.

These people are simply doing this for kicks, not for some noble goal of exposing evil and ins

Since none of us know just how many porn passwords they have cracked, along with Facebook accounts. We do not know whether or not for example some Anon somewhere cracked our most sick perverted teen porn password, and also has our Facebook to tell our family.

Seriously, this sort of stuff can cause suicides. Remember that gay kid who committed suicide over something similar?

Sure -- just that he (as an end user) went to the effort of generating a unique and strong password, and still gets screwed with all the '12345' types. Obviously he can't stop an attack on the site's shit security, just an observation that it double-sucks for him.

To draw a wildly out of proportion analogy (this is Slashdot, after all), it's like watching someone who never smoked die of lung cancer alongside someone who had been smoking for 65 years.

Really is it that hard to build some basic security into one's site? I mean like storing the passwords as hash, instead of plaintext? It is just a few bits of code... so simple... but yet again a web site failing on such a basic matter. No wonder they got hacked to boot, and now have all their member's e-mails and passwords out on the street.

I would expect a porn site to care a bit more about their user's privacy, considering the business they're in. Though considering how much some of their users care (us

If it weren't for the stigma surrounding porn this would just be another hacked website. I still don't understand societies taboos about sexually related things. Especially when we are so accepting of of violence and death. The number of crime scene centric shows on public TV is staggering. The number of sex centric shows? Almost non-existent. People are perfectly fine looking a images of death and dismemberment, but put naked people on TV and it's a travesty. Personally I think the world would better off if people spent more time watching pornography than watching people get killed. Remember, you can have safe sex, you cannot have safe war!

I still don't understand societies taboos about sexually related things.

Its not about society in general. Its about a small fringe group who has some psychological hangup about sex and a penchant for causing trouble until they get their way.

In my community, we had a local TV personality who was involved in the swinging life style. This was well known to those of us within that group and also known to their managers and coworkers, most of whom didn't give a damn. But thanks to continual pressure from the morally conservative nut jobs, this person was let go. As a result of this

It's Americas biggest version of "don't ask, don't tell". A classic is the Utah store owner who proved they were watching tons of PPV porn at the local hotel to get past the Miller test [wikipedia.org]. Politicians simply play the game to win votes, I hardly think they're better than the rest of us. Most of the world - and even the US - have gotten over the whole "sin" to spill the seed, but you still don't talk about it. That's the way it's been from the very beginning, where's little Suzy? Oh, she's furiously frigging he

For many branches of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic cluster, masturbation is definitely considered sinful, and you should resist attempts to leave the Dark Ages. Not sure about the Jain-Buddhist cluster or Shinto, but it was not generally impugned in the Indo-European cluster, of which Hinduism is the major survivor.

Atheists don't have sin, but do classify actions on an ethical scale, and mostly consider masturbation to be harmless or he

Uhm, yes. We could make a very good argument that we're in or entering another dark age. Education is on the wane while the disparity between wealthy and poor rapidly accelerates toward complete serfdom. The middle class is fast disappearing. Science is riddled with political agenda and strangled by the patent and copyright system, while many "peer reviewed" studies are really just simple corporate propaganda. The public domain (water, minerals, parks, roads, etc.) is being sold off to wealthy private and c

They must have a phemonenal amount of personal info on people based on web search alone, never mind everything else they do.

Some Google engineers must have the ability (if not necessarily permission) to track the porn surfing habits of the vast majority of the world's internet surfers. Think how many powerful people that they could blackmail with this information.

Don't fuck with Google...

If Anon hacked Google they'd have the dirt to blackmail the entire internet. They'd know who was researching how to kill their husband. They'd know who thinks what and who watches what porn.

This is why your Google password should be at least 100 characters long, random, and impossible to remember.