What's the big deal with Israel?

originally posted by: stormson
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM
Ah.
However, I hold to my idea as I know both evangelicals and Jews, and the evangelicals hold Israel in higher regard because it heralds the "second
coming".

In my opinion the evangelical hold Israel in special or higher regard is due to the promise

Gen 12:3
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Yes, and the US Politicians who hold dual citizenship influence foreign policy.

You have to keep in mind one very important thing.....

That Red Phone in the Israeli Prime Minister's office is a direct line to God.

AND, from Israel, it's only a local call 😎 (all others pay long distance toll charges)

Can't agree with you more, pull out of the middle east were supposes to be energy self sufficient now and wile were at it cut of all foreign aid. Then
fix the frinkin US, fix the roads, the bridges and harden the electric grid. But alas we will never do that the new rome will crumble like the old
rome did.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Well it doesn't matter who has rights the to land. The people in the Middle East are all belligerent a holes. There will never be peace in the
Middle East because people will not stop killing each other over stupid words coming out people's mouths.

I think the Middle East is a huge waste of money that would be better spent fixing infrastructure here where it counts.

Consider this- A nation that has a great trauma because of the genocide, they could have given them a nice spot from somewhere in Europe, close, and
they would have been making cheese and beer, and recover from the wrong doings,

Instead, they were shipped in the middle of nowhere and caught in a never ending war, only deepening the collective trauma.

I believe to claim that your race of people and only your race are God's chosen people is racial supremacy.

The Jews are God's chosen people only from the standpoint that Jesus was born into their lineage in order to start and spread the gospel. Israel
(Jerusalem) is where the Jewish and Christian religions originated and it's supposed to be the place where a future Millennial Kingdom will be set up.
As for the Jews themselves, the majority of them have rejected Jesus and 2/3 of them will be cut off from the land and only a remnant of the Jews
will survive...again. However, for those who remain, Jesus will set them up on the land He promised them and allow them to repopulate during the
Millennial period.

Say you're in Texas, and a group of Mexicans, backed by Mexico, decides to "take back their land" and force you off your property at gun point and
into a refugee camp. You might not have a good opinion of Mexicans after that. You might even be so hot as to think sending in a few mortars is a good
idea, especially if one of your family members were hurt or killed in this taking. Now it's 3 generations later, and you still see your people getting
kicked off their land, you might teach your grand kids that they need to fight. That they can't trust Mexicans. That the only good Mexican is a dead
Mexican. See what I'm getting at here?

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean the reasons haven't already been given, but if you need another one...

If you allow Israel to split into two states, the Muslim radicals will take over the entire state and then the entire region would break out into one
big Syrian mess where the Sunnis and Shiites try desperately to wipe each other out, like they've been trying to do for thousands of years. Israel's
the only one keeping radical Muslims in check in the Middle East.

Consider this- A nation that has a great trauma because of the genocide, they could have given them a nice spot from somewherein Europe, close,
and they would have been making cheese and beer, and recover from the wrong doings,

Instead, they were shipped in the middle of nowhere and caught in a never ending war, only deepening the collective trauma.

It makes me quite sad to think about it.

A lot came to NYC and elsewhere. We enjoy a great Jewish population here in the US. My friends grandma in Beverly Hills (probably passed away by now)
has the tattoo on her arm from a concentration camp.
Tons of Jews came to America. My own family (Jewish) came to America to flee the Nazis.
Best bagels in the word are in NYC

Can't agree with you more, pull out of the middle east were supposes to be energy self sufficient now and wile were at it cut of all foreign aid. Then
fix the frinkin US, fix the roads, the bridges and harden the electric grid. But alas we will never do that the new rome will crumble like the old
rome did.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

There will never be peace in the ME. The ME is a complete waste of money and time.

The Native Americans have more right to go and kick people out of their houses and take the land than Israelis do.

Nope, where do rights come from? Might makes right. The Israelis have a right to their country because they took it and have the ability and intent
to keep it.
If a thousand years from now a horde of Native Americans from around the globe shows up and invades and scares off and displaces all the white
European descendants and black and Hispanic people then they can have their country back.

That must be why some of the earliest gun control laws forbid selling guns to Indians.

If we want peace in the Middle East we need to support Israel, there are two sides in this conflict, the Israelis who want to exist and the Arabs who
want every Jew to die. Without our support the Arabs may achieve their goal and take over the middle east completely and then no non-muslims will be
able to visit the holy land and the whole place becomes a repressive theocracy that breeds state supported terrorists that would target America.

The Israelis are like a buffer or a bulwark.

Why do you think the last 4 presidents all called to move our embassy to Jerusalem and said it was key to peace in the Mideast? Why do you think Trump
actually got it done?

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