Loose Change is not a bad video, the sound track is poor and the arguments fair, but one that is really good with an excellent narrator is this one, 1 hour 30 minutes of indisputable facts and brilliant video

Officially only 2 people were warned but I'm not sure we can believe everything we are told about Sept 11th, especially not from haaretz.

And anyone who thinks Israel would be incapable carrying out Sept 11th really should do some research into the King David hotel bombing.

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On the morning of the 22nd of July 1946 a party of between 15 and 20 Jews, dressed as Arabs entered the King David Hotel. The hotel housed the Secretariat of the Government of Palestine and Headquarters of the British Forces in Palestine and Transjordan. The terrorists were able to enter the building without arousing too much attention because part of the building was still being used as a hotel and other people frequented it. The Jews pretended to be an Arab working party. Having unloading from their lorry several milk churns filled with 225 kilogram's of explosive, they placed them in the basement of the wing of the hotel occupied by the Secretariat.

A British officer standing nearby, one Major Mackintosh, became suspicious of this group of Arabs and began to ask questions, but was suddenly gunned down by a member of the Jewish gang and subsequently died. A policeman stationed at the tradesman's entrance suffered a similar fate when he challenged the Jewish terrorists. Both victims were unarmed. A gun battle soon began between the terrorist and guards during which time the Jews ignited the fuse and bolted from the building as the alarm was given. As they ran several were shot and wounded by guards, but most managed to make good their escape. There was no time to evacuate the building and the charge exploded with devastating effect. Many were killed instantly as the whole wing of the building collapsed about them, others were trapped and many more injured.

The bombing of the King David hotel is a whole different kettle of fish to 9/11.

The 'evidence' as it is commonly presented simply does not support the theses put forward by many so-called '9/11 Skeptics', and has been literally taken apart by expert testimony, and by the skeptic community writ-large [and Mark Roberts specifically (LionAxe, and myself suspect he provided most of the actual research for the second video, as well as the full production of the first)].

The videos I included from the public televised debate are especially useful in this regard, in showing how the 'Loose Change Crew' had obviously not bothered to read Mark Roberts' [excellent] rebuttal [and dissection of their arguments], and come up with any sort of organised defense of their views, or their production.

All these people debunking the conspiracy theories, why doesn't one of them actually try to prove the official conspiracy theory, debunking is easy.

What about the Lavon affair?
What about the USS Liberty?
The 2 Israelis, supposedly British Soldiers, dressed as Arabs with a car full of explosives in Iraq, caught by the Iraqi police then busted out by the Brits?

Israel certainly has a record of these kind of things.

The Lavon affair is certainly the same MO, Israelis caught red handed planting bombs in Egypt, dressed as Arabs

All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.

All these people debunking the conspiracy theories, why doesn't one of them actually try to prove the official conspiracy theory, debunking is easy.

What about the Lavon affair?
What about the USS Liberty?
The 2 Israelis, supposedly British Soldiers, dressed as Arabs with a car full of explosives in Iraq, caught by the Iraqi police then busted out by the Brits?

Israel certainly has a record of these kind of things.

The Lavon affair is certainly the same MO, Israelis caught red handed planting bombs in Egypt, dressed as Arabs

Mossad; "Make war by way of deception"

Strawman, and undue speculation.

Nobody is saying that the 9/11 report doesn't have plenty of holes/issues, or that the 'official' story is in places pretty dodgy. However, what is being discussed here is alternative explanations for 9/11 put forward by the so-called '9/11 Skeptics' lead by people like Professor Jones of BYU, Alex Jones of 'Prison Planet', and to an extent some of our own like Ed Steele.

They are dealing with the alternative explanations, because that is what skeptics tend to focus on: what they view as the 'weird, and the whacky [and all things in-between]'. Our own 9/11 thread in Revisionism is pretty 'weird and whacky' with theories about Israelis parachuting out of planes, remote-controlled jumbos etc.

I've read some reasonably good theories on certain points from other academics, notably one by a Professor of Computing in 'The Revisionist' [Vol. 4, No. 3, I think], but the amount of crap flying about in regards to 9/11 from the usual suspects [Hi Alex/Jeff] is pretty phenomenal.

Cass Sunstein co-authored a 2008 paper with Adrian Vermeule, titled "Conspiracy Theories," where they suggest, among other tactics,

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Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action.