I'm not a backer of this project, simply a bystander that has been enjoying things unfold.

This is a story of a developer under the name 'Epic Minds' that brought a 2D action-adventure game to Kickstarter in June 2014, and succeeded in raising above his set goal of $73,470/$60,000. Also a story about an inexperienced developer that has a continued
history of failure to meet backer expectations, and has repeatedly
failed to release any news worthy updates to backers since June 2014. Causing backers to become increasingly skeptical of any real progress being made.

Many who pledged towards the development of Midora were outraged at the reason they paused development. It was because they wanted to work on another smaller mobile game to scruff up some cash, to eventually continue production on Midora. This was the first misstep Epic Minds made as it basically said they used up the raised $73,470 funds since the crowdfunding ended in June-2014 and other things.

Epic Minds realized they made a mistake as most backers expressed extreme disappointment, and some were outraged to the point of wanting to file a lawsuit, calling them scammers, and many other things.

Only a mere 3 days later they updated with a new update to calm the waters...

They were happy to hear the news, but backers were skeptical of the project at this point. It raised many more questions and concerns about the ongoing development, and was the first misstep the Midora developers made.

Below's note is likely the spark which led 'Epic Minds' Epicmhyre a
developer on Midora to respond to Nintendonuggets article and title "We offered to finish midora but epic minds blew us off"

November
4th - The article was then responded to by the developer of Midora
'Epic Minds' and rejected. Read the full reply from the developer here
firing back at their offer/article [Continued]- http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snps89

Backers were not pleased, and very few were forgiving, even though the developer apparently lives near Paris. It did however buy some time, though this does not change the fact that backers are done with fruitless updates, and displeased with the broken promises.

Additionally on the second page the developer himself found this thread, and commented himself confirming the time/schedule.

I replied and said the thread was not created to the bash Epic Minds and
Midora, (to make sure he knows im not out to get em) But to instead
expose the story that has unfolded thus far!He replied again and gave
the official date for the Q/A/Build!

12/17/2015 - 26-Days Later after the livestream!

Great Scott! - It would seem we time-traveled into the future Marty! (Using a Tardis!?)

I have come back here to update the story so far!

It's important to note: that the livestream did indeed happen, and over sixty backers showed up. Epic Minds was able to successfully deliver a much needed cushion to buy some time as they seek a publisher.
They talked out of a perilous situation, and offered an honest response
to the mounting concerns. A playable alpha build was also released which
could be described as 'broken' and 'lackluster' which was also
restricted to windows PC.

Linux & Mac - You were spared!

Unfortunately,
for reasons listed in this thread by the developers themselves [PG.03]
the livestream was pulled down from twitch's archive for buggy audio,
and the playable build was also pulled down because it was crashing on
startup. What does this mean for backers who missed the stream, or the
chance to play the alpha build? Too Bad!

This continues to be a
story about a developer who has been releasing lackluster updates, and
has been failing to meet backer expectations.

They are likely still looking to find a publisher, which is sad because they have little hope of finding one. Legend says they are still
seeking out a publisher in 2020!

There is NOTHING confusing to me when comes to KS's or crowd funding of any kind.IMO people are brain dead clueless and have no right at all for blaming someone else for their stupidity.

You are NOT investing,you will NEVER own any part of these developers studios/games,you have absolutely no say one way or the other.There is no legal document to support any of your money,you are simply FOOLISHLY throwing it into the wind,so imo people that do this deserve everything they get.

If some waking up to Folger's is still needed i will spell it out...99% of the people you meet in this world are either completely untrustworthy or can be trusted with very little.There are many people who would fail their best friend or family member,so imagine how they would treat you are your money.I think a LOT of people just need to wake up to reality.

As to that game,it looked like a cartoon comic pile of junk to me,if you feel comfortable with giving money to a game that looks like it was made for the Sega genesis,then go right ahead but don't come crying later or acting all surprised when things go south.

Sits patiently waiting with his popcorn box while Star Citizen fans break open their wallets once again.

Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

To be honest, I hadn't heard of any of the people in these posts before this post so for some other company i haven't heard of to say that kickstarter is going downhill solely because of them is laughable. There have been way higher profile people doing that. The problem isn't people losing faith in kickstarter, plenty of people still use Kickstarter, the problem is people are losing blind faith and THAT. IS. GREAT.

There is NOTHING confusing to me when comes to KS's or crowd funding of any kind.IMO people are brain dead clueless and have no right at all for blaming someone else for their stupidity.

You are NOT investing,you will NEVER own any part of these developers studios/games,you have absolutely no say one way or the other.There is no legal document to support any of your money,you are simply FOOLISHLY throwing it into the wind,so imo people that do this deserve everything they get.

If some waking up to Folger's is still needed i will spell it out...99% of the people you meet in this world are either completely untrustworthy or can be trusted with very little.There are many people who would fail their best friend or family member,so imagine how they would treat you are your money.I think a LOT of people just need to wake up to reality.

As to that game,it looked like a cartoon comic pile of junk to me,if you feel comfortable with giving money to a game that looks like it was made for the Sega genesis,then go right ahead but don't come crying later or acting all surprised when things go south.

Sits patiently waiting with his popcorn box while Star Citizen fans break open their wallets once again.

Exactly. You know if this was a real investment you would negotiate for a software escrow just in case the game went under or perhaps off in a way different direction. KS is not an investment.

Trying to find out if the livestream Q&A already happened or if it will be happening later tonight 11/21/2015. It has been 4-days since the update was made Nov. 17th - Some comments may have discouraged the developers of Midora to host a livestream.

[Ceasefire post has been moved up top]

I did a pretty good job with the first post bringing people up to date. I will be updating the main post title to something a little more appropriate in the near future. Since we're going beyond the original short lived guerrilla fight story between Midora & Nintendonuggets.

Sounds like something between the dual fiascoes of Greedmonger and Pathfinder Online. Wish I had heard of this months ago!

Games like this are pure gold for the popcorn crowd.

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

Sounds like something between the dual fiascoes of Greedmonger and Pathfinder Online. Wish I had heard of this months ago!

Games like this are pure gold for the popcorn crowd.

This is certainly hitting a boiling point, and it only seems to get better and better. I can see it heading in the same direction as Greedmonger. However right now Epic MindsMidora still has a chance to fly out of the mud. Especially if they deliver a playable alpha to backers which is apparently right around the corner.

I have noticed quite a few comments deleted, and some of my screen-caps above have set them in stone. I will be highlighting some more new comments below. However before that an update regarding the stream which was suppose to happen yesterday, or today.

One user has been sitting in the stream channel since the update /Salute

Backer reaction to the no-show stream--Highlighting some more comments-- Backers are pulling support and calling for action

Wow. Sounds more and more like Greedmonger with every post. They missed their Stream and couldn't tell anybody for personal reasons? Sounds like when the Greedmonger dev missed his stream because he fell asleep with a headache!

Please record this if it happens... the Greedmonger stream was EPIC as they went from "All is well" to, yeah this is an embarrassing piece of shit over the course of the stream and eventually shut it down the next day.

I have to go find that steam video. It remains my finest work to date.

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

Here is a comment highlight post from the new update (which I agree with 100%)

Talk about god awful horribad Community/PR: To say your next update would have a build of the game available and ready to play in the next kickstarter update. They finally release an update a month later only to say the livestream and build will be coming in a couple of days, only to eventually postpone it!

Imagine if they were smart and decided to wait until they were ready (Monday) and then post an update on kickstarter, having the name as (Playable Build: Avaliable Now) Instead of Upcoming Livestream +Q/A and have the playable build available that same day, with a livestream around the corner.

However, it would seem the developer who is suppose to stream, lives in Paris and not to far away from last weeks attacks.

I will of course change/remove con-artist from the title of the thread, and replace it with something more appropriate like stupid and inexperienced or something around those lines. Assuming the playable build they release to the public in the coming days is an actual game demo. It will speak far louder than any words they could say at this point.

Although the message given in the final sentence has me concerned, since they like to post the most important parts at the end. Talk about shit Community/PR~ The playable build will be the saving grace this coming Monday, and will determine the fate of Epic Minds.

We'll see exactly where the story goes this Monday... to be continued!

Haha. We need the guy who bestowed the title "Lumpyman" to go in and ask some questions on the livestream.

LOL. Let me know the date/times and I'll see if I can pop in.

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

Today is a very special day. A livestream should be happening which will determine the fate of Midora and Epic Minds credibility.

In the meantime, let us sit back and take a moment to think about how things could turn out for Midora and Epic Minds future as a game developer.

How will things turn out today for them?

Option A:Epic Minds and Midora will succeed in delivering something 'Epic' to backers. They have promised access to a (Public) demo build which is huge. It will be their saving grace, and they will rise from the ashes.

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

No specific time was announced. "The current plan is to stream on Monday, however we have a few calls
with interested companies in the morning so a stream may or may not
happen depending on how long it takes". I highly doubt they will delay any further unless they are stupid, especially when backers are beginning to truly turn on them at this point. Epic Minds better get gud, and get gud fast with the community! Winter is coming! ...and maybe frieza

I doubt the livestream will show failure as the Greed Monger livestream. Potential chance to watch them fail live and display their stupidity. Chance of bouncing back into positive community light. Anyway, you want to be here for what comes after, which is the playable demo. If you miss the stream they might post it onTwitch and Youtube afterwards. Midora has not seen any newsworthy update for a very long time. I will of course update the thread and warn everyone in advance when (if) the livestream goes live. (If im up) lol~

They are one step away from becoming the next Greedmonger... what will happen, which path will they end walking on... im always rooting for ones success deep down inside.

BUT TO BE HONEST WITH MYSELF....OHHHH!! ITS BECOMING TOO DIFFICULT TO HIDE MY #OVERHYPED FEELINGS TOWARDS THE IMPENDING DOOM... OR SUCCESS OF MIDORA! PLEASE...

DELAY! DELAY! GIVE ME MORE... FEED ME! OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!.. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!Haha... but in all seriousness. I truly really feel for the backers here. These guys @Epic Minds have the worst Community/PR I've ever seen. Need a break and ensure I have popcorn ready for either bad news or good, either way it will be a good good day even if the stream doesn't happen. #Sanity-restoring#4Hour-Cooldown

Wow, for someone is apparently isn't a backer of this project, you certainly have taken an interest in advocating for the backers of the project. This could, possibly, be one of the longest posts ever.

Looks shady, but the feeling I get from this is they're not very committed to the project.

The attitude feels like something me and mates would have, start putting ideas of our game together for a week, then stopping and doing whatever, then coming back a week or two later and doing a bit more, but never giving it our full attention and time.

Wow, for someone is apparently isn't a backer of this project, you certainly have taken an interest in advocating for the backers of the project. This could, possibly, be one of the longest posts ever.

Haha. I literally have nothing better to do in my morning ;( sipping coffee and reading exciting updates!

Some retaliation is going on too just now!

He's replying to the developer that made a post attacking another user for apparently 'Being that Guy" and other things. [His message posted again in spoiler]

Aim to please.

Hopefully im not overdoing it! More to come... will quiet down until something bigger happens. ;0 or unless anyone has any questions regarding everything going on.

There is NOTHING confusing to me when comes to KS's or crowd funding of any kind.IMO people are brain dead clueless and have no right at all for blaming someone else for their stupidity.

You are NOT investing,you will NEVER own any part of these developers studios/games,you have absolutely no say one way or the other.There is no legal document to support any of your money,you are simply FOOLISHLY throwing it into the wind,so imo people that do this deserve everything they get.

If some waking up to Folger's is still needed i will spell it out...99% of the people you meet in this world are either completely untrustworthy or can be trusted with very little.There are many people who would fail their best friend or family member,so imagine how they would treat you are your money.I think a LOT of people just need to wake up to reality.

As to that game,it looked like a cartoon comic pile of junk to me,if you feel comfortable with giving money to a game that looks like it was made for the Sega genesis,then go right ahead but don't come crying later or acting all surprised when things go south.

Sits patiently waiting with his popcorn box while Star Citizen fans break open their wallets once again.

Regardless, I'm happy to report that every Kickstarter I've backed has completed and released their respective product, with only one experiencing a hiccup that required them to split it up into smaller "chapters", rather than one big game (which they explained, and followed through on). I've backed 2 game developers, and 2 bands. All 4 have delivered, and in satisfactory fashion.

Are there projects/products that fail? Yep. However, there are also many, many that succeed. And it's used for *far* more than games.

Thing is, as usual, people amplify the bad news, while burying the good news. So, all we ever hear about is the projects that fail, which gives people - like yourself - the impression that crowd-funding is some con job or something.

At the end of the day, I don't think it's news to anyone at this point that investing in a crowd-funded projects is a risk. People look at the project, if it looks interesting and promising to them, then they may choose to back it. If not, they can back away and wait for another that feels better to them.

Your remarks are not only highly misleading, they're also superfluous. Your post seems more like a personal rant for your own edification.