Thanks for this! So far getting auto "due to high volume of emails" responses back. Will do this every day.

Me too, I have a 138 to count. No worries, my understanding is they must read every email that comes in. This doesn't mean that you can't go to their website and telling your opinion as well. If you have the time I would do that too.

The email reflector sends an email to each member of the appropriate committee. Each committee member then responds back to you directly. Without the reflector you would be maintaining your own email lists.

You can send paper letters or do good old phone calls, but my NRA guy says they don't care about your argument, they just want a Yes/No answer. So in the 1/2 hour it takes to carefully construct a letter, that is 500 emails that could have been processed by them.

If you get an email back that asks if you are a constituent, you can reply as "I live in California" therefore I'm a constituent. I think they usually drop it after that.

One of the many reasons that this is NOT a good idea, is that we frequently change the email address for the "One-Clicks" to prevent spamming and DSAs.

It is a better idea to simply use the One-Click links.

Thanks for all of your efforts.

Paul

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The Excel program just uses the NRA email reflector and does the courtesy of setting up the email and sending it. This is for this round of bills only, and will be removed after they are done. i.e. not for permanent use.

One of our local NRA guy says:

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I do not identify my residence or zip code. They auto respond back
saying they only have time to answer their own constituents. I answer
all of those with a "Your vote effects me and I am a citizen of
California, so I expect you to consider my complaints" which keeps it
bouncing back and forth

If we got to 10,000 users that hour would yield 8+ million distinct
personal emails delivered

The thing to understand is that it isn't spam, it is your own message
personal message.

They are required to count them, attribute them to a position on a
particular bill and move on.

The 'muzzle energy' site forward comes to them as direct from you at
your ISP and never registers as a form letter.

Finally since the DON"T read all of what is written, doing elaborate
arguments instead of high quantity gives them the advantage. That's why
they tell you to mail a handwritten letter, or call. They are not going
to tell you what they are actually sensitive to.

My advice is to say something as simple as " I insist you vote no on Ab
123 "
copy - paste it into the subject line, message body and into a PS after
your signature.
Sand message and go to next one.

The truth is that this is a quantity not quality issue, but that is not
unlawful

Opt-out required to email without giving money to your cheesy org? Super Cheesy. Is it even a non-profit? If not, who owns the for-profit corporation?

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20 emails that go.... nowhere, except into a spam-box. I'm not saying DON'T do it, obviously do all you can; but don't think that doing ONLY this is sufficient, and you are done. More than likely, every email generated by any one of these sources, even your individual emails are treated as spam or as coming from an auto-bot spammer.

Calls, a real-world presence, and physical letters need to be written/typed and MAILED. Can that be ignored too? Sure, letters can go into a pile; but all mail is actually opened and handled; emails are often an automatic to spam and soft delete if not an automatic instant delete.

Sorry, just is.

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What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

20 emails that go.... nowhere, except into a spam-box. I'm not saying DON'T do it, obviously do all you can; but don't think that doing ONLY this is sufficient, and you are done. More than likely, every email generated by any one of these sources, even your individual emails are treated as spam or as coming from an auto-bot spammer.

Calls, a real-world presence, and physical letters need to be written/typed and MAILED. Can that be ignored too? Sure, letters can go into a pile; but all mail is actually opened and handled; emails are often an automatic to spam and soft delete if not an automatic instant delete.

Sorry, just is.

It all has to do with the amount of effort it takes to send the communication. Showing up in person is at the top, although that is usually in the form of a lobbyist. Mailed letters are pretty high in the list. Automatically generated emails are at the very bottom. They might count them and pay attention if the numbers are very very large.

It all has to do with the amount of effort it takes to send the communication. Showing up in person is at the top, although that is usually in the form of a lobbyist. Mailed letters are pretty high in the list. Automatically generated emails are at the very bottom. They might count them and pay attention if the numbers are very very large.

"Showing up in person is at the top" - exactly. But we live in a state where it's a chore just to get gun owners to "show up in person" at polls during elections to vote. The virtual/cyber world has satiated the tendency for apathy among many gun owners, where online "polls" and emails have eclipsed the real thing.

We need to simultaneously remind people the virtual world is and will ONLY ever be exactly that and only as good as the mindset it might help usher in; yet it is still virtual, and the virtual individual experience of pandering to it is often that alone. Virtually nobody knows you are doing it except you. It's masturbation.

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Originally Posted by Librarian

What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?