DURING THIS TIME, AND BEFORE ACTUALLY IN ALBANY AS WELL, THERE WAS TENSION BUILDING BETWEEN SCLC AND SNCC WORKERS. WONDERING IF YOU WERE OF THAT IN BIRMINGHAM AND WAS IT DETRIMENTAL?

Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth:

Well, the difference in Birmingham and other places can be summed up in one word. I think my own personality and the fact that people accepted me totally, the, the common people I'm talking about. And the others grudgingly, maybe. And really what I said went, so that, it was difficult for anyone to have challenged me. This is why I say I think Birmingham was destined to be the spot. I think God designed for this. When I was, you must remember I've been, I was mobbed two three times, and there's a lot of history that you can't get just in one sitting, and I remember when I went to the hospital, after this mob—beaten over the head with chains and brass. Doctor, Doctor thought my skull was cracked. But I said, Doctor, the Lord knew I lived in a hard town, so he gave me a hard skull.