People want to be able to grip polearms practically since Titans Grips inception. They allow you to do it ... someone has to complain. It wouldn't be WoW if there wasn't someone to complain about every aspect.

haha true. but polearm complain is pretty legit when there are pretty good polearms out there, i got so sad when lvling my warrior and i couldnt dual wield it

So it's 4 days before patch day and this is the state of 5.4 fury?
"Fury
•Titan’s Grip now works with polearms."
That's it? Is this some kind of joke, because it's so ridiculously obvious how ignored warriors are in PvE by Blizz that it's actually becoming comical. I don't understand it. I though GC promised Fury some love for 5.4? I really want to play my warrior but I guess I will stick to my already stronger rogue who is only getting super buffed in 5.4.....??? Makes a lot of sense.

They are buffing rogues to encourage more to play them because they happen to be the less played class in the game now. Energy regeneration sucks and you put the combo points on the target instead of like the monk...which the points are on your char. Monks have better energy regen also. Warrs....you see a lot of them in the game. I have a 90 warr, I only leveled him to 90 to get the BS recipies. Other than that, he sits in the Inn at Halfhill. Playing a warr now sucks imo. But for some reason, it is still a class you see many playing. *Shrugs, if you enjoy a class, that is the only good reason to play them.

Warriors are not mages/locks, who QQ everytime they don't have at least 2 specs on the top 5 dps and get instantly buffed, deal with it.
And btw, we're not "very far behind", at least from the latest sims I've seen.

It's a up for both Fury and Arms.
But the damage have been nerfed for Prot, so that you deal the same amount of damage with BS over the duration of the fight, but you spend more time channeling BS (thus, not using any other ability). It's a nerf for Prot.

It's a up for both Fury and Arms.
But the damage have been nerfed for Prot, so that you deal the same amount of damage with BS over the duration of the fight, but you spend more time channeling BS (thus, not using any other ability). It's a nerf for Prot.

Both Shock Wave and Dragon Roar are AP (veng.) scaling abilities, so unless i missed some cheese thing on PTR, both of them sould be better for prot than BS. Either way, i was trying to say that the reduced CD for BS was also a buff for fury.

Stormbolt buff is a Fury specific buff imo, cos Arms warr won't use it in PVE for higher dps.

I don't think that can be considered a buff since the alternative that was being used (bloodbath) was already putting out the same dps as stormbolt will after this buff. Fury's dps isn't being touched for all intents and purposes for 5.4.

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Yeah, it really bothers me that Fury got no love. We're already pretty weak in comparison to casters and one of the weak(er) melee, but seeing how Arms got a HUGE buff and is now 10-15% ahead, in all likelyhood I'll be going arms :/

I don't think that can be considered a buff since the alternative that was being used (bloodbath) was already putting out the same dps as stormbolt will after this buff. Fury's dps isn't being touched for all intents and purposes for 5.4.

It's still better for singletarget as TG and we got the deepwounds buff.
While that sure isnt much, that together with the RPPM changes, atleast puts our scaling back to beeing pretty good, relative to other classes.

Looking at the whole package, we bring more damage, more self defenses and utility than in ToT, we're in a pretty decent place overall.
Sure were far from beeing top singletarget melee (won't compare to casters, because that is most likely always a lost cause), but the overall package is really strong in SoO.