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Re: The New York Mets Thread

Perhaps MLB should step in and find ownership that would do what it takes to put a major league team on the field, or at least do what it takes to build towards that.

The Mets are an embarrassment to MLB and New York.

Tough to justify because they actually do spend more than people think. Believe it or not, before the Yankees' Happ/Britton/Lynn parlay the Mets' payroll was only about $10M lower than the Yankees. So it's not cheapness as WFAN callers seem to think. It's not lack of spending, it's BAD spending.

Despite the Madoff clawbacks the Wilpons aren't financially insolvent like McCourt was in Los Angeles and they're not blatantly tanking like Loria did in Miami or like his successor Bruce Sherman (using Derek Jeter as his hand puppet) is doing now in Miami.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Among the Mets' 25 man roster, Robert Gsellman leads in wins and saves. I wonder when the last time a pitcher did that this late in a season. His 6 wins are tied for the team lead with sick Syndergaard, and his 5 saves are most other than traded Familia. Imagine if deGrom wins the ERA title and has fewer wins than one of his teammates without any starts.

According to https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...018-misc.shtml the Mets have the fourth highest payroll in MLB at $188,840,844, which is $28,097,812 higher than the Yankees, who are tenth. Baseball-reference says that may not include transactions during the season.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Originally Posted by EvanJ

Among the Mets' 25 man roster, Robert Gsellman leads in wins and saves. I wonder when the last time a pitcher did that this late in a season. His 6 wins are tied for the team lead with sick Syndergaard, and his 5 saves are most other than traded Familia. Imagine if deGrom wins the ERA title and has fewer wins than one of his teammates without any starts.

According to https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...018-misc.shtml the Mets have the fourth highest payroll in MLB at $188,840,844, which is $28,097,812 higher than the Yankees, who are tenth. Baseball-reference says that may not include transactions during the season.

Jacob deGrom should've been the first player traded. They could've gotten 4 blue chippers for him.

Total payroll could just mean that you've taken on bad contracts via trade. Speaking of which:

If a team trades for a player making a lot of money, does the payroll take into account that the team getting the player also receives money from the other team?

If signed mid-season, does the payroll take into account that the player's salary was not for the full year?

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Originally Posted by EvanJ

deGrom is on pace to become the first pitcher in the modern ERA with at least 200 innings, an ERA under 2.00, and fewer than 10 wins. The only previous times that happened were in 1886 and 1875. deGrom's ERA is currently better than those times in the 1800s.

I'm not sure if the two eras are comparable, since they pitched 600 innings in the 1880s. I think that a rotation was 2 men at the time, and there was no bullpen.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Originally Posted by EvanJ

Among the Mets' 25 man roster, Robert Gsellman leads in wins and saves. I wonder when the last time a pitcher did that this late in a season. His 6 wins are tied for the team lead with sick Syndergaard, and his 5 saves are most other than traded Familia. Imagine if deGrom wins the ERA title and has fewer wins than one of his teammates without any starts.

Not sure if this was that last time, but in 1977 Bill Campbell led the Red Sox in both wins and saves (and truly led them - no ties, no one like Familia who actually led the team but wasn't on the roster at the end due to a trade). He did the same the prior year for the Twins.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Originally Posted by Mr. Mxylsplk

Not sure if this was that last time, but in 1977 Bill Campbell led the Red Sox in both wins and saves (and truly led them - no ties, no one like Familia who actually led the team but wasn't on the roster at the end due to a trade). He did the same the prior year for the Twins.

John Hiller did the same for the Tigers in 1974.

Those are more recent than the first one that popped into my head, which was Elroy Face in his 18-1 season out of the Pirates bullpen in 1959. His 10 saves led the team, but, his 18 wins only tied him with Vernon Law.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

deGrom became the 11th pitcher since 1908 to have at least 7 consecutive quality starts that he did not get a win in. The only other active pitcher to do that was Jeff Samardzija in 2013 and 2014. deGrom is only the pitcher to do that in at least 7 consecutive starts in one year since 1988. The record for consecutive starts doing that is 9 by George Bell in 1910. Bell had a 2.64 ERA that year but went 10-27 and led MLB in losses.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

From June 23, 2018 through August 3, 2018, the New York Mets' Jacob deGrom had 7 consecutive quality starts that he did not get a win in. That was tied for the fourth longest streak since 1908. The streak ended with an 8-0 win today. Brandon Nimmo and Austin Jackson had 3 hits and 3 RBI. In his 300th career plate appearance, deGrom walked with the bases loaded for the first time.

Re: The New York Mets Thread

Before tonight's game in Boston, the Mets have a better record this month. The Mets are 9-3 and Boston is 8-3. The Mets have been at least 10 games under .500 after their last 75 games, and they will be 9 under if they win tonight.