is .50 cal is NBP if yes then which handgun is available in this caliber apart from desert eagle?

SAJJAD ALI

28-09-2010, 01:02 AM

No any type of .50 cal pistol is avalible in pakistan.

safeershah

28-09-2010, 01:03 AM

which one is available ?

emre

28-09-2010, 01:04 AM

Russians have a 50 caliber revolver, also Smith Wesson produces a revolver in .500 caliber. Those are different cartridges in size than the desert eagle.
50 caliber is not a practical handgun caliber for everyday use. :)
Hard to maintain, clean, carry, shoot.

safeershah

28-09-2010, 01:04 AM

apart from revolver and desert eagle what is the choice

mhrehman

28-09-2010, 02:10 AM

apart from revolver and desert eagle what is the choice

I have very limited info on this one, apart from these two, I don't know of any other options in .50

hskhan2k2

28-09-2010, 03:13 AM

boss .50 cal is not in pak yet..........

Silent killerr

28-09-2010, 06:40 AM

Yes .50 handgun falls under NPB,but this caliber is not available in pakistan

Gilani

28-09-2010, 09:22 AM

For what purpose one could need a .50 caliber gun??

Lock & Load

28-09-2010, 09:24 AM

Desert Eagle .50 AE (Action Express) in Gold with lil over 1000 rounds is available and guess what how much the guy is demanding for it. I better don't say it.... :)

Lock & Load

28-09-2010, 09:31 AM

For what purpose one could need a .50 caliber gun??

I think only high end collectors could keep this caliber for thier collection in our part of the world and in US the guys keep this for the sake of big bore shooting fun (mostly).

Gilani

28-09-2010, 09:34 AM

That means there is no practical utility of such a handgun in Pakistan :)

Lock & Load

28-09-2010, 09:41 AM

In our part of the world YES.

Silent killerr

28-09-2010, 10:39 AM

Desert eagle is like a cannon. it is double in size as compared to full frame pistols. One can keep it just for collection and fun. Cant be used for CC and SD because of heavy recoil

mhrehman

28-09-2010, 01:22 PM

That means there is no practical utility of such a handgun in Pakistan :)

Gillani bhai I have personally fired the .50. The recoil is massive, so is the bullet, even in states its not a popular carry weapon, but people do have em because of the availability of handguns and ammo. But in my personal opinion its not a very practical carry weapon option, many reasons, but this is just my personal opinion.

Here is a pic I found on the net of .50 being fired, looks like a small cannon is being fired. :)

That means there is no practical utility of such a handgun in Pakistan :)

Gillani bhai I have personally fired the .50. The recoil is massive, so is the bullet, even in states its not a popular carry weapon, but people do have em because of the availability of handguns and ammo. But in my personal opinion its not a very practical carry weapon option, many reasons, but this is just my personal opinion.

Here is a pic I found on the net of .50 being fired, looks like a small cannon is being fired. :)

it`s look like some effects because the fire is started from the back of hand grip , i mean from shooter`s wrist unbelieveable

bestmagician83

28-09-2010, 06:33 PM

.50 calliber is most powerful one and also know as HAND CANNON mostly they are well know as in DESERT EAGLEs but unfortunately they are not avaiable in PAK specially DESERT EAGLE
.50 Calliber is really very powerful pistol. and it is not a regular one .38 or 9mm are good for daily usage.

bestmagician83

28-09-2010, 06:36 PM

For what purpose one could need a .50 caliber gun??

.50 calliber is only just for fun but it have a very high recoil.

Apalo

28-09-2010, 07:27 PM

if some one want to have .50 for fun then he must be an elephant to fire it :)

safeershah

28-09-2010, 07:38 PM

apalo,
well my size is closer to elephant :)

Apalo

28-09-2010, 07:46 PM

brother no offense as i was not referencing to any body, i just said it generally :)

drag80

28-09-2010, 07:47 PM

there are no side effects in this picture. U can see videos of D Eagle 50 AE on youtube and even in day light the flash is massive.

Mig

28-09-2010, 09:36 PM

.50 Does not Come in NPB

All pistol Caliber bigger than .45 are PB.

in the Definations of Cannon, the PAO (Pakistan Arms Ordinance ) states "... revolvers or pistols over 46 bore"" So the Law will take a .50 Pistol as a Cannon, Strange but a Fact.

Abu Al Hawl

28-09-2010, 10:17 PM

any thing above .40 is useless for hand hunds.

Dr Zakir

29-09-2010, 12:07 AM

.50 is PB caliber . There are couple desert eagles available but bullets would be a real problem .

drag80

29-09-2010, 12:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__JkOUheyVk

who wants to have one of these ?
its too much for practical use.

wasifali89

29-09-2010, 08:25 PM

.50 is PB caliber . There are couple desert eagles available but bullets would be a real problem .

what would be the price ??
just for discussion purposes

mhrehman

30-09-2010, 01:31 AM

here in Pakistan or abroad? In U.S the Desert Eagle is around 1000-1200$, and is about the same for S&W 500. But here if you buy one, if it is available, where the heck would you get the bullets from?

safeershah

01-10-2010, 03:19 PM

Abu Al Hawl

its mean 1911 in .45 is useless too ?

SPAYPANTHER

01-10-2010, 04:10 PM

any thing above .40 is useless for hand hunds.

bro have you forget .45 :(

mhrehman

01-10-2010, 04:42 PM

Abu Al Hawl

its mean 1911 in .45 is useless too ?

IMHO not at all :)

wasifali89

03-10-2010, 12:41 PM

Abu Al Hawl

its mean 1911 in .45 is useless too ?

i guess ur confused here

all calibers above .46 are prohibited in pakistan
the colt 1911 is a .45 acp whose ammo is abundantly available

the .50 d-eagles or revolvers are for the americans as they can find the ammo but not us

jonnyc

03-10-2010, 05:41 PM

There is a cartridge called the .50 GI. It is a scaled-up .45 ACP, and the pistol is also just a slightly larger 1911A1. I have seen the cartridge but not the pistol.

wasifali89

03-10-2010, 11:20 PM

There is a cartridge called the .50 GI. It is a scaled-up .45 ACP, and the pistol is also just a slightly larger 1911A1. I have seen the cartridge but not the pistol.

but a .50 or .45 dont share thier ammos ?
or my concepts are wrong here

Wasifali, you are correct, they are different cartridges, but the pistol is also a bit different.

"and the pistol is also just a slightly larger 1911A1"

Virk

02-04-2011, 08:18 PM

I dont think 50 caliber available in pakistan.

a55kika

03-04-2011, 12:45 PM

Oh Safeer Bhai,Kyan lena chahrahy hain?
I haven't seen anything beyond a .454 casull in the market(Taurus).
But if you want we can go and check out the market.

shakil83

17-05-2011, 06:02 PM

.50 cal falls in PB so its not available in pakistan. so guys try some smaller calibers like .45 acp, .45 colt,.44 magum and .357 magum, these calibers are realy fun to shoot.

Dr Zakir

17-05-2011, 10:37 PM

Caliber is available but bullets r difficult .

a55kika

18-05-2011, 11:35 PM

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/taurus_raging_judge-tfb.jpg
The only thing that comes close to a .50AE would be a .454 casull.This weapon is compatible with .454,.45 colt and .410 shotshell.

Dr Zakir

19-05-2011, 12:44 AM

It is on my wish list

a55kika

21-05-2011, 11:17 PM

Pull this on a bad guy and he will actually die of a heart attack :)
No need for bullets

Dr Zakir

21-05-2011, 11:25 PM

Yes until he is armed with an AK

PUNJTANI5

23-05-2011, 08:00 PM

50 is the limit

i saw a 50 revolver with an uncle but it was a muzzel loader ...

but personally 50 is big ang very big
suitable for the big and sexy moeen bhai ;)
not for little and cute my little hands .

Arslan_tareen

05-07-2011, 03:47 PM

i have a beautiful factory engraved .50 under lever rifle(.50-110 Winchester) , the bore of the barrel is nearly same as a Shot gun but unfortunately its a black powder so even in states and other parts of the world finding its ammo is a Dream . nice gun to look at though i have restored it in its glory .

Prince

05-07-2011, 04:20 PM

i have a beautiful factory engraved .50 under lever rifle(.50-110 Winchester) , the bore of the barrel is nearly same as a Shot gun but unfortunately its a black powder so even in states and other parts of the world finding its ammo is a Dream . nice gun to look at though i have restored it in its glory .

Wow, arslan bro, really a weapon to see.

Arslan_tareen

05-07-2011, 04:33 PM

Thanks sir , i gave you a open invitation ;) , but till then i will try to get a picture next time i am in the village to share with fellow gun lovers .

Prince

05-07-2011, 04:42 PM

Thanks sir , i gave you a open invitation ;) , but till then i will try to get a picture next time i am in the village to share with fellow gun lovers .

I cannot say further "NO" to you this time because i am not a rigid neither arrogant person but avoid Invitational hunts .........

I refused first time(please don't mind) but you really shown heart now i have to accept it and highly admire you.

Thanks for everything, we will meet some day, for sure, ab yeh dosti pakki.

Arslan_tareen

05-07-2011, 04:58 PM

i totally understand the thing about invitational hunts as its a game only to be enjoyed with few close ones who time has forged into a "hunting Party"..my invitation for a visitation and some Shooting fun (so that the visitation does not becomes too Drawing roomi ) if you know what i mean .
P.s Sir humari dosti humesha paki he hote hai , thanks for the honor will keep it up .

Prince

05-07-2011, 05:01 PM

Pleasure is all with mine ..........

Sturmgewehr

05-07-2011, 05:05 PM

Hahaha even FPS Russia can barely handle the magnum .50 hand cannon..........check him out on you tube its the video titled the worlds most powerful handgun.

Sturmgewehr

05-07-2011, 05:11 PM

Plus I asked a dealer and he was saying that this falls in the prohibited bore category[not sure have to do more research on this one]....someone with an old import permit can get you one[an 80 years or round about that theres a guy whos familly has a 125 year old permit,time buys you influence and respect with the right people] but you gotta be the best of friends with not only the dealer but also an MNA....friends enough to get a PB permit.

If they give out one for .50 here that is.

Sturmgewehr

05-07-2011, 05:12 PM

Thanks sir , i gave you a open invitation ;) , but till then i will try to get a picture next time i am in the village to share with fellow gun lovers .

Tareen sahib please do post a picture of that grand weapon.Thankyou.

paki.gunner

08-03-2012, 10:26 PM

so if anyone wants to get one, first he should apply for a cannon license :D

.50 Does not Come in NPB

All pistol Caliber bigger than .45 are PB.

in the Definations of Cannon, the PAO (Pakistan Arms Ordinance ) states "... revolvers or pistols over 46 bore"" So the Law will take a .50 Pistol as a Cannon, Strange but a Fact.

paki.gunner

08-03-2012, 10:39 PM

i guess some of you might have seen this video :)

http://youtu.be/dFJjaj7pXsA

Mian Jee

08-03-2012, 11:10 PM

Ok,what you have to say about this ?

9017

Trajan

09-03-2012, 09:00 AM

@ Mianji sb. bro, hate to break the news but the weapon you have posted does not exist. it is a Photoshopped version. only .50 cal pistol is the Desert Eagle and also very impractical @ 7 shots only and the size of an elephant.

gunenthusiast

09-03-2012, 09:05 AM

bro .50 is prohibited cal

sajjadkhan

09-03-2012, 09:15 AM

i guess some of you might have seen this video :)

http://youtu.be/dfjjaj7pxsa
damn!!!!!!!!

ajmal virk

09-03-2012, 01:12 PM

hell of gun

Birdshooter007

09-03-2012, 01:51 PM

According to the muzzle energy facts on Wiki, a .500S&W round fired from a revolver creates as much energy as a .30-06 rifle... so they have made rifles chambered in this caliber now.

American Lockpicker

12-03-2012, 10:49 AM

There is a cartridge called the .50 GI. It is a scaled-up .45 ACP, and the pistol is also just a slightly larger 1911A1. I have seen the cartridge but not the pistol.

Wasn't there a Glock 21 converted to use that cartridge?

gunlover2020

13-04-2012, 04:14 AM

@ mianji sb. Bro, hate to break the news but the weapon you have posted does not exist. It is a photoshopped version. Only .50 cal pistol is the desert eagle and also very impractical @ 7 shots only and the size of an elephant.

i bought the desert eagle .50ae for rs: 35,00000 yes 35,00000 and sold it for rs: 15,00000 what a waste of money and time. You can't get any ammo, even if can get the ammo from some where each bullet cost over rs: 1500 - 2500. Some times you have to wait from 6 months to year even for few bullets.

After selling the desert eagle i went back to beretta Special Edition. I think it's one of the best pistols.

gunenthusiast

13-04-2012, 10:52 AM

gunlover bro you made the right decision.

Khan381

13-04-2012, 07:44 PM

i bought the desert eagle .50ae for rs: 35,00000 yes 35,00000 and sold it for rs: 15,00000 what a waste of money and time. You can't get any ammo, even if can get the ammo from some where each bullet cost over rs: 1500 - 2500. Some times you have to wait from 6 months to year even for few bullets.

After selling the desert eagle i went back to beretta Special Edition. I think it's one of the best pistols.

U mean 3.5 Million??? n had lost 2 million for an israeli weapon????........................................ ................................................. dnt have any wordss

American Lockpicker

13-04-2012, 08:18 PM

I've been thinking about getting a Desert Eagle in 44 mag(easy to find ammo here and not too expensive.)

Username

14-04-2012, 11:07 PM

Dear the law you are talking about i.e "West Pakistan Arms Ordinance 1965" states Revolvers / Pistols over .44 would be termed as Canon. But that is not the case now as 222 / 223 / 456 Webly and many many other bores are registered on Arms' licences in each city of Pakistan :-)

.50 Does not Come in NPB

All pistol Caliber bigger than .45 are PB.

in the Definations of Cannon, the PAO (Pakistan Arms Ordinance ) states "... revolvers or pistols over 46 bore"" So the Law will take a .50 Pistol as a Cannon, Strange but a Fact.

I agree with all the respected forumites here that it is not the pistol you could use daily, infact couldn't and shouldn't be use once every month :-D .

However, I am now too close to get two Tax-Free import permit from MoC for importing .50 AE & .500S&W but it is not enough or satisfactory without getting tax-free ammos too. So now, I am trying to get the bullets entered into the tax-free import permits. Let's see, if I succeed in it. If I succeed, Insha Allah, I will give test-fire to each member here (who posted in this thread till today) who wishes to fire it.

I agree with all the respected forumites here that it is not the pistol you could use daily, infact couldn't and shouldn't be use once every month :-D .

However, I am now too close to get two Tax-Free import permit from MoC for importing .50 AE & .500S&W but it is not enough or satisfactory without getting tax-free ammos too. So now, I am trying to get the bullets entered into the tax-free import permits. Let's see, if I succeed in it. If I succeed, Insha Allah, I will give test-fire to each member here (who posted in this thread till today) who wishes to fire it.

Regards,
A M K

Hold on a minute my dear,,Let me search this thread for my posts,
or you can count this one,
What you say,,,25 minutes remaining in today.

Mig

14-04-2012, 11:44 PM

Yes .50 handgun falls under NPB,but this caliber is not available in pakistan

The Pakistan Arms Ordinance says anything above .45 is PB. What do you say about it ?

Hold on a minute my dear,,Let me search this thread for my posts,
or you can count this one,
What you say,,,25 minutes remaining in today.

Username

14-04-2012, 11:46 PM

It is NPB as Ministry of Interion back in 2002 or 2003 declared all the Pistols / Revolvers as NPB.
Regards,
A M K

The Pakistan Arms Ordinance says anything above .45 is PB. What do you say about it ?

malik160

15-04-2012, 01:51 AM

I am 1 hour 51 minutes over, do I still make it for the test fire?

Mig

15-04-2012, 02:21 AM

It is NPB as Ministry of Interion back in 2002 or 2003 declared all the Pistols / Revolvers as NPB.
Regards,
A M K

Thanks.....

Username

15-04-2012, 01:19 PM

I am 1 hour 51 minutes over, do I still make it for the test fire?

OK - You have been listed, as "grace-period entry". :-)

Just pray that I get the bullets tax-free permit too. Then we could enlarge the list by entering dozen more.

Regards,
A M K

Owais Hasan

15-04-2012, 01:30 PM

Sir jee if you are humble enough to enter another grace entry for late commer.

Regards.

Owais Hasan

Username

15-04-2012, 01:35 PM

Sir jee if you are humble enough to enter another grace entry for late commer.

Regards.

Owais Hasan

Hahaha.....No problem with me, just let the pistol "arrive" with ammos, I will spare at least 25-50 for test-fire.

Regards,
A M K

gunlover2020

16-04-2012, 01:30 AM

does desert eagle can be used on the NPB Card. if yes how ??? and where i can find good ammo 9mm and .50ae

Username

16-04-2012, 08:54 PM

does desert eagle can be used on the NPB Card. if yes how ??? and where i can find good ammo 9mm and .50ae

Yes it could be used. It is Pistol, so simply mention the Bore and Number.

Regards,
A M K

gunlover2020

21-04-2012, 01:22 AM

The price for desert eagle is in pak rupees is: Rs 35,00000 never mind the gold one. This is the price for simple desert eagle. Hahahha

desert eagle .50 ae (action express) in gold with lil over 1000 rounds is available and guess what how much the guy is demanding for it. I better don't say it.... :)

gunlover2020

21-04-2012, 01:24 AM

does desert eagle can be used on the NPB Card. if yes how ??? and where i can find good ammo 9mm and .50ae

NO it requires NP Card . NPB Card is unto .46 Cal

Plus There is no ammo for .50. Even if someone can arrange that it will cost over RS 1500 - 2000 per bullet

gunlover2020

21-04-2012, 01:25 AM

it is npb as ministry of interion back in 2002 or 2003 declared all the pistols / revolvers as npb.
Regards,
a m k

not for desert eagle . It's a ban pistol in pakistan. Anyone carries or sells that can be fined and jail.

gunlover2020

21-04-2012, 01:28 AM

gunlover bro you made the right decision.thanks

Now I have Beretta Shockwave Special Edition ... Cool

Username

22-04-2012, 08:08 PM

not for desert eagle . It's a ban pistol in pakistan. Anyone carries or sells that can be fined and jail.

Why it is ban, because of Israeli-Arm? First of all, there are many in Khi and few in Peshawar. Secondly, I am going to import D.A .50 AE the US Made. Third, all hand-guns (pistols) are declared NPB in Pakistan.

gunlover2020

22-04-2012, 08:31 PM

Why it is ban, because of Israeli-Arm? First of all, there are many in Khi and few in Peshawar. Secondly, I am going to import D.A .50 AE the US Made. Third, all hand-guns (pistols) are declared NPB in Pakistan.

First of all if someone have it, they will never talk about it because it is simply illegal to buy or sell. You try it but you never going to get the pistol in PAKISTAN first place. second it will cost over 3 million in plus you will be required to have PB lic for that pistol. Any over .45 falls in PB. You also will be required an import international lic plus there is a ban on Pakistan on Import USA & Other Countries. Only Gov is allowed.

Let me know how it goes....

Username

22-04-2012, 08:51 PM

First of all if someone have it, they will never talk about it because it is simply illegal to buy or sell. You try it but you never going to get the pistol in PAKISTAN first place. second it will cost over 3 million in plus you will be required to have PB lic for that pistol. Any over .45 falls in PB. You also will be required an import international lic plus there is a ban on Pakistan on Import USA & Other Countries. Only Gov is allowed.

Let me know how it goes....

I almost agree with you. No dispute over any point except regarding few.

It will not cost 3.5 Million, even if imported and taxes / duties are paid. Secondly, each Member parliament and APUG officer are allowed / previlleged to import one tax-free weapon. I have made myself three times sure and have confirmed several times about .50 stands NPB. The law you are mentioning is "1965 West Pakistan Arms Ordinance" in which it is written that any Weapon above .44 would be termed as Canon (somewhere it is .46) in any case there are much higher calibers are wether endorsed as NPB or PB. I have already received 4 tax-free Arms' licences by commerce Ministry issued for four privileged persons. As far as ban issue is concerned a renowned Gun-Dealer / Importer (who is importing) has told me that I have to pay 4500 US$ extra (nothing if I still get a Tax-Free .50) for importing it, by third country. The one option is that a person could also import himself directly if he//she is in the country of purchase after 3 formalities to come-up with there. Beside this, there are two other legal options available. In short, the problem which is delaying all this process is that I am trying to include 1500 rounds in one of the permits as to be imported tax-free so I also get .50 rounds tax-free. Otherwise it is of no use for me.

There is one man in Karachi, a low-ranked officer (non-gazzeted) of Sindh Police having D.E (.357) he is demanding 650G. But for .357 it is too high, I think.

Dr Zakir

23-04-2012, 01:25 AM

Desert eagle is not ban item, however bullets are a problem and pistols above. 45 calibre require a PB licence

Username

23-04-2012, 07:54 PM

Desert eagle is not ban item, however bullets are a problem and pistols above. 45 calibre require a PB licence

Brother does 357 or 455 Webley also requires PB license? No. It was mentioned in 1964 West-Pakistan Arm's Ordinance and after that MoI has issued several notifications, timely, upgrading and altering many clauses concerned with the Ministry's Arms' policy.

gunlover2020

23-04-2012, 07:57 PM

I almost agree with you. No dispute over any point except regarding few.

It will not cost 3.5 Million, even if imported and taxes / duties are paid. Secondly, each Member parliament and APUG officer are allowed / previlleged to import one tax-free weapon. I have made myself three times sure and have confirmed several times about .50 stands NPB. The law you are mentioning is "1965 West Pakistan Arms Ordinance" in which it is written that any Weapon above .44 would be termed as Canon (somewhere it is .46) in any case there are much higher calibers are wether endorsed as NPB or PB. I have already received 4 tax-free Arms' licences by commerce Ministry issued for four privileged persons. As far as ban issue is concerned a renowned Gun-Dealer / Importer (who is importing) has told me that I have to pay 4500 US$ extra (nothing if I still get a Tax-Free .50) for importing it, by third country. The one option is that a person could also import himself directly if he//she is in the country of purchase after 3 formalities to come-up with there. Beside this, there are two other legal options available. In short, the problem which is delaying all this process is that I am trying to include 1500 rounds in one of the permits as to be imported tax-free so I also get .50 rounds tax-free. Otherwise it is of no use for me.

There is one man in Karachi, a low-ranked officer (non-gazzeted) of Sindh Police having D.E (.357) he is demanding 650G. But for .357 it is too high, I think.

Now there is a problem here. USA is not allowing any person to import and weapon to pakistan. The will be lifted in 2014.

American Lockpicker

23-04-2012, 08:08 PM

Now there is a problem here. USA is not allowing any person to import and weapon to pakistan. The will be lifted in 2014.

Canada has most of the same guns that are available here...

Username

23-04-2012, 08:12 PM

Now there is a problem here. USA is not allowing any person to import and weapon to pakistan. The will be lifted in 2014.

Export to Pakistan directly is an issue ;-)

You know we are getting Rugers, Berettas, Sigs and Glocks from US too :-)

Third thing, some AF-Officers do bring when they are coming back to Pakistan. ;-)

gunlover2020

23-04-2012, 09:12 PM

Export to Pakistan directly is an issue ;-)

You know we are getting Rugers, Berettas, Sigs and Glocks from US too :-)

Third thing, some AF-Officers do bring when they are coming back to Pakistan. ;-)

OK. Try to call any US company and just ask them that you want to buy a gun. see what they will say about that. Second all the companies that were stated Rugers, Berettas, Sigs and Glocks arms dealers have old permits thats why they can still import those weapons only anything out from the list is not allowed. They can't even get new permits.

Please Correct me if i'm wrong.

gunlover2020

23-04-2012, 09:16 PM

Even instead of importing anything on your own ask any dealer to order it for you. See what they will say ...

Username

23-04-2012, 09:20 PM

OK. Try to call any US company and just ask them that you want to buy a gun. see what they will say about that. Second all the companies that were stated Rugers, Berettas, Sigs and Glocks arms dealers have old permits thats why they can still import those weapons only anything out from the list is not allowed. They can't even get new permits.

Please Correct me if i'm wrong.

My brother, who says you are wrong? You are 100% right, I agree with you. You are saying importing weapons from US, I say even you can't order its accessories or mount for telescope from them. But I assure, I will import it, I have big-time strategy for importing it. It would not be imported to Pak directly and just for this I have to pay big sum of 4500 US$. :-(

Yar, aren't we getting American Arms here in Pakistan? How? Many many ways.

Just pray for my success. Thanks bro.

gunlover2020

25-04-2012, 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=Username;263321]My brother, who says you are wrong? You are 100% right, I agree with you. You are saying importing weapons from US, I say even you can't order its accessories or mount for telescope from them. But I assure, I will import it, I have big-time strategy for importing it. It would not be imported to Pak directly and just for this I have to pay big sum of 4500 US$. :-(

My suggestion for you brother do not import that weapon seriously. it will cost you later even more than $4500 plus that weapon is not even that worth. The rest is up to you. I had wasted over 3 million on that weapon before. I'm a American National and even after that i'm still saying i had wasted not only my time but money too. that's why i'm suggesting to you.

Username

25-04-2012, 12:30 AM

[QUOTE=Username;263321]My brother, who says you are wrong? You are 100% right, I agree with you. You are saying importing weapons from US, I say even you can't order its accessories or mount for telescope from them. But I assure, I will import it, I have big-time strategy for importing it. It would not be imported to Pak directly and just for this I have to pay big sum of 4500 US$. :-(

My suggestion for you brother do not import that weapon seriously. it will cost you later even more than $4500 plus that weapon is not even that worth. The rest is up to you. I had wasted over 3 million on that weapon before. I'm a American National and even after that i'm still saying i had wasted not only my time but money too. that's why i'm suggesting to you.

Brother, thanks for your nice and kind suggestion, I honour them, in either case. It would be enormously appreciated, if you, kindly, could also mention the reason that why this is a "fail" handgun?

gunlover2020

30-04-2012, 01:26 AM

[QUOTE=gunlover2020;263605]

Brother, thanks for your nice and kind suggestion, I honour them, in either case. It would be enormously appreciated, if you, kindly, could also mention the reason that why this is a "fail" handgun?

Dear Brother. No Reason. It's been always a rule. No matter what you say or do people will stop on other people advice, until they make that mistake and then realize that they have done the wrong thing.

Before you do anything just compare my 3.2 Million Pak Ruppes with your small $4500. There are something which cannot be discussed.Which i seem you can't able to understand it. I'm sure i'm older than you. I have more experience with the weapons then any other person on this forum. And i'm pretty much sure that I am highest ranking person. So in simple words " Don't buy the gun ". The rest is up to you. Once you make that mistake, trust me you will not only lose your $4500 but a lot more after that.

When some one walks on the wrong path, they always end up doing the wrong things too. That is the nature of wrong path. No matter how careful or smart the person is.

Your Choice.

Kamranwali

22-06-2012, 03:53 PM

thanks

Now I have Beretta Shockwave Special Edition ... Cool

Salam All,
Can you please exlain what a Beretta Shockwave Special Edition is???

Regards.

Anonymous

22-06-2012, 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=Username;263606]

Dear Brother. No Reason. It's been always a rule. No matter what you say or do people will stop on other people advice, until they make that mistake and then realize that they have done the wrong thing.

Before you do anything just compare my 3.2 Million Pak Ruppes with your small $4500. There are something which cannot be discussed.Which i seem you can't able to understand it. I'm sure i'm older than you. I have more experience with the weapons then any other person on this forum. And i'm pretty much sure that I am highest ranking person. So in simple words " Don't buy the gun ". The rest is up to you. Once you make that mistake, trust me you will not only lose your $4500 but a lot more after that.

When some one walks on the wrong path, they always end up doing the wrong things too. That is the nature of wrong path. No matter how careful or smart the person is.

Your Choice.

Agreed on all what you said..but please explain how you are the highest ranking person???:) is this because you spend millions on failed guns???:):) And how you have more experience then any other person on this forum????:):) OR ..........................:):) PG members...please comment

Kamranwali

22-06-2012, 08:30 PM

@Anonymous Bro, he is also a big fan of the figure Rs.3,500,000. He first bought a Desert Eagle .50ae for it, then sold it for 1,500,000. He then purchased a "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" (WHATEVER THAT IS) for same amount. Kindly refer below.

I personally love beretta i have used all the blocks in the past ... but it's just not the same. Here is my new Special Edition Beretta Shock Wave Cost: Rs: 35,00000... demo ... enjoy ..

http://youtu.be/GZ0TrPSm5Ew

If you watch the video, you'll notice that under the video, the description says "Glock p225 9mm Price: 3,75000 vs Beretta .45 Shockwave Price: 35,00000" :D , whereas the video shows a Sig 225(or maybe a 226, can't really tell) and a Desert Eagle being shot. Also, if you notice his youtube ID, its "ZajiDryCleaner" :D

But of course, a person who has spent 7,000,000 on only 2 handguns, one a Desert Eagle and the other a "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition........coool" is definitely MORE experienced and the highest ranking person :D

GOOD ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires

24-06-2012, 05:31 PM

Its simple really If you spend 3.5 million on just 1 gun. U are bound to know what U are doin cause if u still dont learn from your mistake and are prepared to do it again. U have to be very very very high ranking indeed.

DOM

26-06-2012, 01:53 AM

Isnt .50 a prohibited bore ?
If yes then pakguns allowed pb discussions ?
I know a person who purchased desert eagle .44 magnum in 0.6 million.
Its a waste of money.

gunlover2020

21-07-2012, 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=Kamranwali;275594]@Anonymous Bro, he is also a big fan of the figure Rs.3,500,000. He first bought a Desert Eagle .50ae for it, then sold it for 1,500,000. He then purchased a "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" (WHATEVER THAT IS) for same amount. Kindly refer below.

There are only 200 Pieces of Beretta Shockwave in the world. I know the zaji dry cleaner owner. he is a collector, he like to collect unique things. some collections he has are not only rare but impossible to get.

Beretta Shockwave is only for U.S Military High Grade only. Any ways. Pakistan is the only country who has no market. I meant there is no proper place for guns, bullets, training, safety. nothing.

Who are running these business in pakistan, putting the highest price on everything & buyer are stupid enough to buy. There is no one who monitor these people and even if someone comes in they pay him to keep his eyes closed.

The prices are huge & no one is no to these people. That's a shame. Cheap Ass gun cleaning kits, cleaners. I mean what is this.

Are you gun owners are happy with what you getting for your money. ??

please reply.

Kamranwali

22-07-2012, 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=Kamranwali;275594]@Anonymous Bro, he is also a big fan of the figure Rs.3,500,000. He first bought a Desert Eagle .50ae for it, then sold it for 1,500,000. He then purchased a "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" (WHATEVER THAT IS) for same amount. Kindly refer below.

There are only 200 Pieces of Beretta Shockwave in the world. I know the zaji dry cleaner owner. he is a collector, he like to collect unique things. some collections he has are not only rare but impossible to get.

Beretta Shockwave is only for U.S Military High Grade only. Any ways. Pakistan is the only country who has no market. I meant there is no proper place for guns, bullets, training, safety. nothing.

Who are running these business in pakistan, putting the highest price on everything & buyer are stupid enough to buy. There is no one who monitor these people and even if someone comes in they pay him to keep his eyes closed.

The prices are huge & no one is no to these people. That's a shame. Cheap Ass gun cleaning kits, cleaners. I mean what is this.

Are you gun owners are happy with what you getting for your money. ??

please reply.

Salam All,
Brother please... you are telling me that there is a handgun that has only 200 pieces ever made, is meant for "US Military High Grade" (whatever that means), there's no info on it online, and that you have one........ ok fine, please share the pics with us, I really want to see it, and I guess so would all the other members. And while you are at it, please share some of the rare pieces from Zaji's collection, if possible.

Brother, you are yourself stated that dealers are over charging and buyers are stupid enough to buy them, and according to your own self, you have bought a DE and "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" for 3.5 million a piece.

And where did cheap ass gun cleaning kits and cleaners come from???? :D

Please, post the pics, waiting anxiously.....

Regards.

Birdshooter007

22-07-2012, 12:37 PM

Ahahahahahahahhahahahahaha :jaw: :rofl:

Enigmatic Desires

23-07-2012, 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=gunlover2020;281724]

Salam All,
Brother please... you are telling me that there is a handgun that has only 200 pieces ever made, is meant for "US Military High Grade" (whatever that means), there's no info on it online, and that you have one........ ok fine, please share the pics with us, I really want to see it, and I guess so would all the other members. And while you are at it, please share some of the rare pieces from Zaji's collection, if possible.

Brother, you are yourself stated that dealers are over charging and buyers are stupid enough to buy them, and according to your own self, you have bought a DE and "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" for 3.5 million a piece.

And where did cheap ass gun cleaning kits and cleaners come from???? :D

Please, post the pics, waiting anxiously.....

Regards.

Kamraniwali bhai.. its very simple really.. if u spend 3.5m again and again u really wont have any money left to buy cleaners and stuff.. I think what our worthy brother is trying to tell us is that he has been 'cleaned' out! :P

I bought the weapon higher price because it was a collector items not because for a gun sake. If it wasn't a collector's gun, i wouldn't pay that much money for it.

Most of my collections are private.

Not fair bro
You are simply advocating your amount by telling COLLECTOR ITEM.
Either collectible or for use, u payed the same amount and your above statememt is not valid to think b4 pay.

DIL KO BEHLANE K LIYE KHAYAL ACHA HAI GHALIB.

Khan381

25-07-2012, 09:02 PM

Den bro,

I have some very very dangerous PB's in my village in Baluchistan.should I share those ! hahaha

we would lov to C... but by tat u ll face 2 probs.. 1) u ll get a ban on forum.. number 2 may be some agency guy be interested in you... :).. now choice is urzz...

Zaheer

26-07-2012, 12:29 AM

Those are not that much dangerous things ! Hahaha

Kamranwali

26-07-2012, 12:49 AM

Salam All,
LOLZZZZ @Chauhdary, ED Bros and Denovo Sir :D

@gunlover2020, bro if u require to keep your collection private that is completely your choice.... :) but an internet forum is hardly the place to do so, especially if you mention "Beretta Shockwave Special edition.....cool" that is meant for "US Military High Grade", only 200 pieces ever made, which cost you Rs.3.5 million after you sold your DE for 1.5 million, which you bought it for 3.5million. When you make statements like these, please be ready to be questioned and asked for pictures :D. By the way this is 2012, not 1912......and you are on a gun forum.... wrong place and time to show off.....

@All, I just ordered a Smith and Wesson F-22 Raptor, that fires 90mm rounds from a 20 round magazine, and can fly you out of a situation when you're out of ammo at Mach 3 at an altitude of 50,000 meters. It cost me Rs.1 Billion, but like Denovo sir said, cant post the pics....its against forum rules. :D :D :D.

paki.gunner

26-07-2012, 03:00 AM

Hahaaha Really enjoyed the comment HI5 :D

And I am a happy owner of a Russian T-90; cant post pictures due to forum rules ;)

Haider Shah

26-07-2012, 01:13 PM

Can some one elaborate upon unique collections of Zaji Dry Cleaner, is he native or some international figure ?

Enigmatic Desires

26-07-2012, 03:03 PM

Can some one elaborate upon unique collections of Zaji Dry Cleaner, is he native or some international figure ?

Aray.. Haider Shah Sahib.. U have not heard of the famous Haji Bhai Dry Cleaner.. I mean seriously!! The Dhobi King of South Asia... Rumour has it that he has soooo many many Dhobi Ghats that he has to flit from one ghat to the other in his Apache. But No has seen him yet cause (humble quiet and and unassuming man that he is) its always on stealth mode.

Kamranwali

27-07-2012, 01:00 AM

Salam All,
Haider Shah Bro, our very own "The Man With the Golden Gun" (READ: The Man With The Golden "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition....Cool") :D

Hahahahahaaa. ED Bro....

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires

27-07-2012, 01:07 AM

Yesterday I looked up in the darkening sky
At iftari time just as i was craving an apple pie
i saw the shadow of something HUGE fly by
I thought it was a bird.. a plane.. but i let out a cry
when I saw it was our one and only intrepid dry cleaner haji Bhai!!

ajmal virk

27-07-2012, 10:59 AM

Very technical kind of "classes" are going on here please keep it up till each and everyone post pics of his precious items.
@Denevo sir now i realised that why dieasl prices are going up because people have Russian T90 also please convert that to CNG or LPG.

Denovo87

27-07-2012, 11:25 AM

Very technical kind of "classes" are going on here please keep it up till each and everyone post pics of his precious items.
@Denevo sir now i realised that why dieasl prices are going up because people have Russian T90 also please convert that to CNG or LPG.

Arranged cng kit for it Ajmal bro but dont want to loose 125mm main cannon as mistry suggested to remove it to accommodate cylinders :laser: ;)

ajmal virk

27-07-2012, 11:33 AM

Denevo sir try another "mistry" i think Rajgeer he will attach these on outer side of tank.

Haider Shah

27-07-2012, 12:03 PM

Well a humbug conversation amusing all has been revealed now but the reality factor must not to be ruled out of Zaji's existence, waiting for some real break through to unveil his collection for knowledge sake,
It may provoke Zaji sahib to step in himself to reveal the truth, Regards

Enigmatic Desires

27-07-2012, 04:15 PM

Well a humbug conversation amusing all has been revealed now but the reality factor must not to be ruled out of Zaji's existence, waiting for some real break through to unveil his collection for knowledge sake,
It may provoke Zaji sahib to step in himself to reveal the truth, Regards

Sir, he can be reached on his unlisted number. However his cell phone was stolen

gunlover2020

09-12-2012, 05:08 PM

sorry for delay on the forums. I was travelling out of country. Just came back. I hope everything ok here too.

I still see alot of people in the forum talking about the .50.

You see most of the people don't understand few things
1. The lic falls in PB and it self cost alot of money to have one.
2. You have to be non-pakistani to import .50
3. Each bullet will cost you over rs:1000 in black & rs: 2000 after custom clearance.
4. The .50 is not like regular pistols the recoil is way too much to handle for any normal shooter.

As you may have seen on the web where the normal 9mm bullet box cost $5 to $10, where as in pakistan each bullet cost that much. There is no check & balance in this country & dealer's can markup the prices the way they like it.

I also see many people wanted to contact me but they couldn't find my number so i'm posting my number here for you guys. If you guys have any questions feel free to ask me.

+447624168805

thanks.

gun lover

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Enigmatic Desires

10-12-2012, 11:30 PM

Err.. still looking for the .50 guns in your collection..

Whats an NP license?

semperfi

10-12-2012, 11:55 PM

Gunlover2020 wheres your Beretta 'SHAWKWAVE'? lol

gunlover2020

11-12-2012, 02:11 AM

i will posting a detail video soon with a surprise. :) in it.

gunlover2020

11-12-2012, 03:00 AM

Sir, he can be reached on his unlisted number. However his cell phone was stolen

First of all my number always remain unlisted till i decide to post it, which i did now for every one. So if they have any questions they can ask me.

How ever i'm also going to correct you that my number never got stolen. I'm a CEO of 12 international companies. My number cannot be listed to given unless they have my permission.

So please kindly don't make such comments like that. Im a CEO of 12 international companies. My number cannot be listed OR given unless they have my permission. Please don't make falls statements.

I RESPECT EVERY ONE, SO PLEASE GIVE RESPECT TO OTHER'S ALSO.

Thank You.

davidglory

11-12-2012, 03:15 AM

hey zaji,

i have joined the forums as you requested me. man you look very pissed. what happened?

saw your new video loved it. show off.

well what's the plan buddy, are we still for the christmas & year party ?? i'm really bored here please stick to the plan.

pm me.

Denovo87

11-12-2012, 10:46 AM

First of all my number always remain unlisted till i decide to post it, which i did now for every one. So if they have any questions they can ask me.

How ever i'm also going to correct you that my number never got stolen. I'm a CEO of 12 international companies. My number cannot be listed to given unless they have my permission.

So please kindly don't make such comments like that. Im a CEO of 12 international companies. My number cannot be listed OR given unless they have my permission. Please don't make falls statements.

I RESPECT EVERY ONE, SO PLEASE GIVE RESPECT TO OTHER'S ALSO.

Thank You.

I think you misunderstood ED bro's post he actually referred to Zaji Sb. not you (if you are not him...Zaji Sb.).

sharpshooter2010

11-12-2012, 10:52 AM

.50 is PB i think

gunlover2020

11-12-2012, 02:23 PM

I think you misunderstood ED bro's post he actually referred to Zaji Sb. not you (if you are not him...Zaji Sb.).

well in that case everything is forgotten :) no worries.

the video has been uploaded. please do check when you get time.

i'm leaving for my tour after the 20th of dec 2012.

thanks.

Kamranwali

20-12-2012, 11:41 PM

Salam All,
Have been away for quite some time now. Was just finishing reading all thats been goin on when I just came acrros this thread.

Gunlover Bro, u seriously need to clear some things. First of all I just saw the videos u've uploaded. Let me start by saying that the DE is truly a beast. Now, didnt u say earlier that u bought a DE and then sold it, now in your video u say that u have two of them. Did you buy it again? If yes, then for how much this time??? and didn't you advise someone not to buy a DE earlier??? That its a waste of money. Plus why have u uploaded your videos to Zaji Sahib's youtube account??

Also, please do not mind but I've already seen many many videos of the DE and as a handgun, it fails to impress me at all. I'm more interested in seeing the "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" in 45 calibre. Please share some pics, if not a video of this particular handgun.

I'll be waiting.

Regards.

gunlover2020

22-12-2012, 06:47 AM

few thing before i start off .

most of the in the forum, i feel like we are talking 10 year old kids. Asking the same questions again & again just in a different way.

i & zaji are collectors. We collection what we like, for some people they are not important & might be they are important to us. But in any case we are not here to show off for collections, how much money we have spent neither degrading anyone.

we like what we do & we are always happy with the choices that we make. Since we have over 20 years experience not in just handling the weapons but we also have trained many gov depts for handling & safety.

de, smith & wesson 500: These type of guns are not made for civilans, specially de. Now some people will agree on it & most of them won't, but that is the truth & small mind people always disagree.

why i bought it in the first place & then sold it & bought it again.(how many times to start quitting smoking & started back again it's liek that). Yes in the video i said i have 2, what i meant was 2 in sliver, i have also in 1 in black & 1 in gold. 2 smith & wesson 500, same as zaji collection. We buying everything together.

how much i paid; first time when i bought $34,000 rs: 32,50000 + the shipping cost. When i sold it & bought back again (same price). I sold to zaji. Why i sold it because i was not getting any bullets for it. There was no point having a gun without bullets. First time i bought 500 bullets each costing me over $12 a peice just over rs 1000. Wihch i got finished very quickly, now when i bought again, i bought over 5000 bullets each costing me $18/bullet rs: 1500.

the second set of de each costed me roughly $35,000 rs 35,00000. To shoot the video for my de i also bought a new song nex vg 10e camera for $1,800. For cleaning kit i bhave bought gold members kit for $2,000.

here comes the big question;

why you telling other's not to buy it but your buying it your self. In short i'll just given one small example, if people are fail to understand that, then they even don't deserve to keep a weapon.

example: People who smoke & can't quit, you will not see them saying to others start smoking, you will always tell others don't smoke just because i'm smoking that doesn't mean it's good"

the same rule applys here, we peopel fail to understand me, then what else i can say they never grew up & never will.

second big question i would liek to ask those who thinks they know the market & people. ?

how many do you know people in pakistan have de ?
how many people have it ? I meant by numbers ?
how many people bought it ?
how many people are keeping it legally ?

in the last 10 years there was not a sinle lic made for de in pakistan.

how we know, it's our business to know these things.

ask any arms dealer in the whole pakistan ? No one will be able import de for yu legally. Whether you have pb or npb lic.

" the law apply to us " (by us i meant by me & zaji group). We can buy any weapon that we want every month as long they are not fully automatic. For automatic weapons we require a different type pof lic. Which we are not interested in it any way. I'm think about buying the berret .50. Lets see how it goes for coming new year.

why i have uploaded on zaji account. Because i did remember my own pass on the account so i uploaded on zaji's. Since he never upload videos of his collection anyway. What about the bretta shockwave. Well that i'm afraid i have sold it didn't like the trigger & it's handling but thinking about buying another 1911.

now we are leaving the country for a holidays to celebrate new years. You guys have gun.

gunlover2020

22-12-2012, 06:53 AM

I forgot to tell you guys one more thing.

Freemasons tracking system effective in pakistan now very soon on your nic card.
Chiped nic. To keep a track on every muslim pakistani's. Well good luck with that.

I can bet like before everyone will bend over & say yes to it.

YOUR NEW NIC WILL LOOK LIKE THIS: 15940

Please do watch zaji youtube videos on new world order. Another id for youtube is : Mindcontrol4massess facebook & youtube.

Be a true muslim & say no to chiped nic. A true test for those who call them selfs muslims.

arawan

22-12-2012, 08:41 AM

I forgot to tell you guys one more thing.

Freemasons tracking system effective in pakistan now very soon on your nic card. J
Chiped nic. To keep a track on every muslim pakistani's. Well good luck with that.

I can bet like before everyone will bend over & say yes to it.

YOUR NEW NIC WILL LOOK LIKE THIS: 15940

Please do watch zaji youtube videos on new world order. Another id for youtube is : Mindcontrol4massess facebook & youtube.

Be a true muslim & say no to chiped nic. A true test for those who call them selfs muslims.

Dear, Gunlover2020, I've read all your post in this thread. I could not understand, what you wish to explain? Can you please put some bullet-points for new readers of this thread?
Secondly, can you please mention the details of some vendors in USA who sells DE @ 35000$ ??
Regards

shahroze

22-12-2012, 09:22 AM

was over at my friends place while reading this post so..... talking about guns he told me he had a very unique weapon which he wont show me because when he showed his other 2 friends they tried to kill him to take that weapon the lust of the weapon increases when you see it and i after hearing so much about it was planning to get it by hook or crook .
he told me it was only produced in Aurangzebs era and only three were produced
three were passed down to his sons Bahdur shah 1 , azam shah and sultan akber
he told me the gun only fired golden bullets and when pointed on some one the bullet would hit the target 100meters away there was no avoiding it . As he said it was a semi auto pistol and the other two were with the illuminati to control the world . the pistol according to him was so shinny no ordinary man could see it .........
now we all know in Aurangzebs era semi autos pistol were not invented and golden bullets ? only in movies hitting from 100meters yea sure , and illuminati to control the world seems legit :D
after all the suspense this is my fictional friend and ill be borrowing the gun from him to share it with you guys
hope every one gets it :)

kkhan8

23-12-2012, 06:58 PM

@shahroze, sir could you please guide me which dealer has it and how much your friend paid for it. I have been searching for this handgun for a while. My arms dealer says he should be getting his new shipment in a month or so.

davidglory

23-12-2012, 11:54 PM

@ Gunlover Are you still selling the H2L Weapons Care System ?
Mine got finished last week. I tried to order from the beretta but i guess my membership got expired too. would it be possible, if you sell your to me & you can buy another one from them. i got few of my pistols & guns are pending. is it still the same price or it got higher?

please reply. me thanks.

davidglory

24-12-2012, 12:03 AM

Dear, Gunlover2020, I've read all your post in this thread. I could not understand, what you wish to explain? Can you please put some bullet-points for new readers of this thread?
Secondly, can you please mention the details of some vendors in USA who sells DE @ 35000$ ??
Regards

looks like your asking him to baby sitting.

everyone can understand & saw the video. how difficult it is to understand that.

please explain which apart you didn't understand, seem to me everything is very clear & simple. if u just joined the forum then u need to start from the start & then follow it through for better understanding. repeating same stuff again & again gets boring. so please try to keep up with the discussion if u can or change the thread.

please don't mind this but i seem gunlover explaining same stuff again & again. which is not right.

most of the in the forum, i feel like we are talking 10 year old kids. Asking the same questions again & again just in a different way.

i & zaji are collectors. We collection what we like, for some people they are not important & might be they are important to us. But in any case we are not here to show off for collections, how much money we have spent neither degrading anyone.

ummm. ok, but u're thread is the only one in Pakguns which has topped almost 2 crores in just 4 DEs and one "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" :D

we like what we do & we are always happy with the choices that we make. Since we have over 20 years experience not in just handling the weapons but we also have trained many gov depts for handling & safety.

Ok, if u say so :)

de, smith & wesson 500: These type of guns are not made for civilans, specially de. Now some people will agree on it & most of them won't, but that is the truth & small mind people always disagree.

Agreed, the DE was designed keeping LEs in mind, but it failed miserably. :)

why i bought it in the first place & then sold it & bought it again.(how many times to start quitting smoking & started back again it's liek that). Yes in the video i said i have 2, what i meant was 2 in sliver, i have also in 1 in black & 1 in gold. 2 smith & wesson 500, same as zaji collection. We buying everything together.

how much i paid; first time when i bought $34,000 rs: 32,50000 + the shipping cost. When i sold it & bought back again (same price). I sold to zaji. Why i sold it because i was not getting any bullets for it. There was no point having a gun without bullets. First time i bought 500 bullets each costing me over $12 a peice just over rs 1000. Wihch i got finished very quickly, now when i bought again, i bought over 5000 bullets each costing me $18/bullet rs: 1500.

the second set of de each costed me roughly $35,000 rs 35,00000. To shoot the video for my de i also bought a new song nex vg 10e camera for $1,800. For cleaning kit i bhave bought gold members kit for $2,000.

Please refer to my first response :D

here comes the big question;

why you telling other's not to buy it but your buying it your self. In short i'll just given one small example, if people are fail to understand that, then they even don't deserve to keep a weapon.

example: People who smoke & can't quit, you will not see them saying to others start smoking, you will always tell others don't smoke just because i'm smoking that doesn't mean it's good"

the same rule applys here, we peopel fail to understand me, then what else i can say they never grew up & never will.

What r u saying brother? that u suggested others not to buy a weapon that u like so much that u bought 4 of, just so that they wont get hooked to handguns??? I simply dont understand...... does that mean I dont deserve to keep a weapon? :D

second big question i would liek to ask those who thinks they know the market & people. ?

how many do you know people in pakistan have de ?
how many people have it ? I meant by numbers ?
how many people bought it ?
how many people are keeping it legally ?

Umm arent the first 4 questions the same??? :) Brother, as far as i'm concerned, I simply dont want to know. :)

in the last 10 years there was not a sinle lic made for de in pakistan.

ask any arms dealer in the whole pakistan ? No one will be able import de for yu legally. Whether you have pb or npb lic.

" the law apply to us " (by us i meant by me & zaji group). We can buy any weapon that we want every month as long they are not fully automatic. For automatic weapons we require a different type pof lic. Which we are not interested in it any way. I'm think about buying the berret .50. Lets see how it goes for coming new year.

why i have uploaded on zaji account. Because i did remember my own pass on the account so i uploaded on zaji's. Since he never upload videos of his collection anyway. What about the bretta shockwave. Well that i'm afraid i have sold it didn't like the trigger & it's handling but thinking about buying another 1911.

Ahan..... u sold it, all I can say is, please take a pic of it when u buy it back :D

@All the new members reading this post, there is no such weapon as a Beretta Shockwave Special Edition. @gunlover2020, please stop lying, and misleading new people here. This is a gun forum. Enjoy u're trip.

Regards.

Kamranwali

24-12-2012, 10:21 AM

looks like your asking him to baby sitting.

everyone can understand & saw the video. how difficult it is to understand that.

please explain which apart you didn't understand, seem to me everything is very clear & simple. if u just joined the forum then u need to start from the start & then follow it through for better understanding. repeating same stuff again & again gets boring. so please try to keep up with the discussion if u can or change the thread.

please don't mind this but i seem gunlover explaining same stuff again & again. which is not right.

First, welcome to the forum.... :)

Secondly, since "U JUST JOINED" the forum, why dont u share with us u're experience with weapons and the gun laws in u're country. U can then proceed to make lobbies and take sides :D

Regards.

Qazi Usman

24-12-2012, 10:27 AM

well said kamranwali bro....

arawan

24-12-2012, 10:33 AM

looks like your asking him to baby sitting.

everyone can understand & saw the video. how difficult it is to understand that.

please explain which apart you didn't understand, seem to me everything is very clear & simple. if u just joined the forum then u need to start from the start & then follow it through for better understanding. repeating same stuff again & again gets boring. so please try to keep up with the discussion if u can or change the thread.

please don't mind this but i seem gunlover explaining same stuff again & again. which is not right.

Cool man, when I was drafting the post, I knew and have been expecting some funny response. I really enjoyed it. Its good to see your profile that you are Zaji's partner. Anyways, I couldnot say you welcome (excuse me), Welcome to the forum. Have a great time here.

ummm. ok, but u're thread is the only one in Pakguns which has topped almost 2 crores in just 4 DEs and one "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition" :D

Ok, if u say so :)

Agreed, the DE was designed keeping LEs in mind, but it failed miserably. :)

Please refer to my first response :D

What r u saying brother? that u suggested others not to buy a weapon that u like so much that u bought 4 of, just so that they wont get hooked to handguns??? I simply dont understand...... does that mean I dont deserve to keep a weapon? :D

Umm arent the first 4 questions the same??? :) Brother, as far as i'm concerned, I simply dont want to know. :)

Ahan..... u sold it, all I can say is, please take a pic of it when u buy it back :D

@All the new members reading this post, there is no such weapon as a Beretta Shockwave Special Edition. @gunlover2020, please stop lying, and misleading new people here. This is a gun forum. Enjoy u're trip.

Regards.

+1..............

Birdshooter007

24-12-2012, 10:41 AM

Hahahahaha, this should be in "The Jokes Thread" :p

gunlover2020

24-12-2012, 04:13 PM

Hmmm..... that is interesting .........

Well i don't know where to kick off with answers...so i will go as the things comes in .

well so far no one manage to answer few of my questions below:

how many do you know people in pakistan have de ? I meant by numbers ?
how many people bought it ? in the past 10 years ?
how many people are keeping it legally ? with lic ?

whether is a good design or not, whether it got failed. who cares. who ever like something, they should buy it. what i was try to point out was " it's way too expensive to keep it " if people can afford it, then why buy one buy the whole lot if u like... (this is a matter of choice & likes)

It never was, is or will not (deserving). everyone have the right to deserve anything they want in their life.

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I SAID THAT BEFORE & STATING THIS AGAIN:

Everybody comes here to share things, it's the other person's choice whether to believe it or not. No have the right to ask the other person to prove something special, when most of us are unknown to each other.

At any point while sharing the collection, no intension was made to show off, or to degrade any one here in the forum or out side.

Everyone have the right to share & make comments about products, laws, system & services. But no one have the right to point fingers on each other at any time.

NO ONE IS FORCING ANYBODY TO BUY SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T LIKE, NEITHER STOPPING ANYONE NOT TO BUY.

mirza125

29-12-2012, 01:14 AM

@ pg brothers: (except, "gunlover2020 and david glory" well these both are the same person's profile handled by same guy!! lolzzzzz)
i mean i really didnt understands yet what they want / trying to prove?? when i read his posts u know i mean i feels like im back in my 4th or 5th primary school class where we children usually fight for our rights that "no shakoor my dad has a big car ur dad has a small car i have a big one u have small one" like that !! hahahahaha
seriuosly,, whats going on man chill relax whats the heck is that and who the heck is selling DE in 35000 us dollars?? yaar hadd hoti hai koi mazak ki??? i mean u r 12 company's CEO????? hahahahah i dont think that this is a jokes thread???!!

shahroze

29-12-2012, 09:41 AM

the ceo of 12 companies had me going i knew something was fishy
come on lets get real mian mansha the declared billionaire is not the ceo of 12 companies ........... i think he has 7-9 companies including the mcb bank and adam jee

Kamranwali

31-12-2012, 12:20 PM

Salam All,
Lolz @Gunlover2020 bro. Now who's acting like a 10 year old?

Brother, like I said this is a gun forum, and I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO POINT A FINGER AT ANYONE WHO IS LYING. :D

Nothing personal, bro...... but there is NO weapon called "Beretta Shockwave Special Edition"

As far as the DEs are concerned, u can by all means buy 4 more for even more than 3.5 Million.

Enjoy!!!!

gunlover2020

10-01-2013, 01:26 AM

ZAJI IS BACK FROM THE DEAD ........

I DON'T MIND ANY MORE WHAT OTHER'S THINK AND SAY. NOT ANY MORE. SPECIALLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST FEW DAYS.

OWNING 12 COMPANIES AAH' THINK OF ME AS THE POOREST PERSON ON THIS EARTH. WHO CARES.

WELL I GET TO LIVE MY DREAM. WHERE AS OTHER PEOPLE ONLY GET TO SEE IT, IF THEY ARE LUCK.

.. ENOUGH SAID.

SORRY ABOUT THE LATE REPLY REGARDING FEW OF THE QUESTIONS BELOW. SINCE I HAD TO HOSPITALISED FOR FEW DAYS AFTER RETURNING FROM MY HOLIDAY TRIP.

ON THE WAY BACK FROM THE OPENING OF A NEW GUN STORE IN ****** (INTERNATIONALLY)
FACED THIS HORRIBLE ACCIDENT. BY THE ALLAH'S GRACE, NO SERIOUS HARM TO US.

http://youtu.be/HgUwrp4XvRg

gunlover2020

10-01-2013, 01:29 AM

HERE IS MY DESERT EAGLE .50 GOLD :) PLEASE NOTE I HAVE MADE IN ISRAEL NOT USA. :). THE PERFORMANCE OF MADE IN ISRAEL IS BETTER THAN THE MADE IN USA. I HAVE (BOTH IN PURE 22K GOLD MADE BY ISRAEL & MADE IN USA) FIRED DIFFERENT AMMO IN USA & ISRAEL. BY FAR ISRAEL HANDLING & PERFORMANCE IS BETTER THAN USA WITH THE SAME AMMO. NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT GETTING MY HAND ON BARRET .50. THE MOMENT I GET IT, PAK GUNS WILL THE FIRST TO SEE IT'S PROMO.

http://youtu.be/RGLtu0Hz80Y

16948

TRX

10-01-2013, 04:48 PM

Okay, for purposes of educating an ignorant foreigner, does "Prohibited" mean "no, you can't ever have one, so don't even try," or does it mean "Prohibited from general ownership, but we'll issue you a license if you do the proper paperwork and pay a fee?"

arawan

10-01-2013, 06:20 PM

Okay, for purposes of educating an ignorant foreigner, does "Prohibited" mean "no, you can't ever have one, so don't even try," or does it mean "Prohibited from general ownership, but we'll issue you a license if you do the proper paperwork and pay a fee?"

Answer is "Yes"......

AK47

10-01-2013, 09:26 PM

Amazing last few pages! WoW!

I've come to understand by now the exact taste of our respected mods, with respect to leisure time tranquility: Harry Potter!

De! LMAO! I just exchanged mine for a TT.

Regards.

Denovo87

10-01-2013, 10:20 PM

Amazing last few pages! WoW!

I've to understand by now the exact taste of our respected mods, with respect to leisure time tranquility: Harry Potter!

De! LMAO! I just exchanged one for a TT.

Regards.

Dont worry AK bro mods are human being and they need some fresh air too. This Mr. Dry cleaner is part of our relaxation exercises ;) waisay I dont know how good he's in dry cleaning but love his skills of dubbing voice over youtube videos ;)

Kamranwali

11-01-2013, 12:08 AM

Salam All,

Lolzzzzzzzz..... and he's giving advice too now...... :D

gunlover2020

11-01-2013, 01:09 AM

Okay, for purposes of educating an ignorant foreigner, does "Prohibited" mean "no, you can't ever have one, so don't even try," or does it mean "Prohibited from general ownership, but we'll issue you a license if you do the proper paperwork and pay a fee?"

your right. i never said anything about the pb lic.

but any way try complete the paper work and pay the fee and try to import DE Made in Israel :) lets see what they tell you.

do you really think if it was that easy, then people who are spending so much money on glocks & other weapons no one wanted to buy de.

So your tell me that so many thousands of threads for .50 came from now where on the forums.

i would like to see at least someone to try ...

un till then talk about something else. please.

Dragg3r

11-01-2013, 03:07 AM

your right. i never said anything about the pb lic.

but any way try complete the paper work and pay the fee and try to import DE Made in Israel :) lets see what they tell you.

do you really think if it was that easy, then people who are spending so much money on glocks & other weapons no one wanted to buy de.

So your tell me that so many thousands of threads for .50 came from now where on the forums.

i would like to see at least someone to try ...

un till then talk about something else. please.

what i am aware is that one of the Army personal has Desert Eagle .50 AE and i was also told that is the only one in Pakistan but then one of my friend told me that he has seen 5-8 of these in Karachi therefore i have told him that ...its all crap talk till i actually see one ....so lets see how that goes....

shahroze

11-01-2013, 06:43 AM

i saw a de 2 years back at chaudhary arms in gulberg . nothing big

arawan

11-01-2013, 07:25 AM

Amazing discussion, DE, DE and DE..........
I am impressed by Zaji's spirit, Cool...............

Subzero

11-01-2013, 08:23 AM

it`s look like some effects because the fire is started from the back of hand grip , i mean from shooter`s wrist unbelieveable

It is real. It has extraordinary recoil and muzzle flame.

Subzero

11-01-2013, 08:25 AM

DE is perhaps the wold's biggest handgun. In fact, I have not seen bigger than DE. It comes in 6 inch and 10 inch barrels.

Fahad Khan

18-01-2013, 10:28 AM

heyy there friends. would someone please comment on the local copies of handhhuns we get here. like whats wrong in those, what are the drawbacks? ill be greatfull. =D

eminentpk

18-07-2013, 02:54 PM

if some one want to have .50 for fun then he must be an elephant to fire it :)

LOL, I totally agree with that bro

Dr Zakir

19-07-2013, 12:33 AM

Reliability and a standard in quality.

Usama

19-07-2013, 02:28 AM

Reliability and a standard in quality.

+1
there quality and reliability is poor

pisces007

30-07-2013, 02:59 AM

23234 any idea about dis

Usama

31-07-2013, 10:17 PM

what i am aware is that one of the Army personal has Desert Eagle .50 AE and i was also told that is the only one in Pakistan but then one of my friend told me that he has seen 5-8 of these in Karachi therefore i have told him that ...its all crap talk till i actually see one ....so lets see how that goes....

Not a big issue , Recently Tactical sold one and rest are with few good names Here :)