There were two big holes in Deb / Dexter's story if they think Deb killed him:

1) Where is the gun Deb used to shoot him, and where did she get it? I suppose she could have a backup gun, but if so it would be a small leg-holster type thing, and the small calibre would have been worth a remark at the crime scene. Besides, Dexter must know whether Deb carries a backup gun. I did not see any gun in the storage unit when Deb was searching it, but I suppose she could have found a gun (and ammo) there. If so, where is the gun now?

2) Where is the jewelry? The cops did not mention it at the crime scene, and Deb did not seem to have it.

Most likely explanation is that Deb did not kill El Sapo, but apparently she did stumble across the murder scene, since her blood was on the outside of the car. Unless El Sapo had her blood on his knuckles and smeared it on the car when he got in.

...Most likely explanation is that Deb did not kill El Sapo, but apparently she did stumble across the murder scene, since her blood was on the outside of the car. Unless El Sapo had her blood on his knuckles and smeared it on the car when he got in.

I though I remember her specifically saying she did shoot him while her and Dexter were standing in the alley.

Unless he drugged her. Followed her. Stole jewels and shot the hitman.
Stupid twist but possible.

Not really possible. She drank it in the daytime, maybe early afternoon? Then she and Elway went to that apartment, then later she went to the storage facility. She was not obviously drugged at any point there.

Yes, that is what she said. Dexter sort of convinced her that she shot him, but as I said, there are two big holes in that story.

I'll have to rewatch that scene but I don't remember hearing anything that would think that she didn't do it. I remember her being pretty clear that she shot him. I didn't get any impression of ambaguity.

I do remember her saying something about being in a fog or something but she seemed pretty clear that she did shoot him.

I do remember her saying something about being in a fog or something but she seemed pretty clear that she did shoot him.

That's what I remember.

As for Vogel, while evil, I don't think she will kill Dexter. I think more likely she will weep as Dexter is somehow destroyed. I think she likes/loves the monster she created.

I also like how Dexter referred to Vogel as Dr. Frankenstein. I mentioned this reference in the discussion of last weeks episode.

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Harry and Vogel created a modern day Frankenstein. That is a definite possibility.

It will be interesting to watch and see what other parallels they draw. It's been a long time since I have read the book or watched the movie. Somehow I don't think all of Miami will be chasing after Dexter with pitchforks and torches. Maybe Abbot and Costello will show up?

There were two big holes in Deb / Dexter's story if they think Deb killed him:

1) Where is the gun Deb used to shoot him, and where did she get it? I suppose she could have a backup gun, but if so it would be a small leg-holster type thing, and the small calibre would have been worth a remark at the crime scene. Besides, Dexter must know whether Deb carries a backup gun. I did not see any gun in the storage unit when Deb was searching it, but I suppose she could have found a gun (and ammo) there. If so, where is the gun now?

2) Where is the jewelry? The cops did not mention it at the crime scene, and Deb did not seem to have it.

Most likely explanation is that Deb did not kill El Sapo, but apparently she did stumble across the murder scene, since her blood was on the outside of the car. Unless El Sapo had her blood on his knuckles and smeared it on the car when he got in.

I don't think there is any reason to believe that, as a cop/bounty hunter, that Deb wouldn't have access to more than one gun. She didn't need to be carrying it on her person or find it in the storage unit. We don't know how much time supposedly passed between El Sapo leaving her in the storage unit and El Sapo being shot. Could have been a couple hours. Could have been miles away from the storage unit.

Could have been a couple hours. Could have been miles away from the storage unit.

No reason at this point to believe Deb didn't take the jewelry.

I don't see either of those as plot holes.

How could it possibly be miles away from the storage unit if Deb was the shooter? El Sapo had a large lead on her when he left the storage unit and closed the door on her, and she was just laying there, seriously fcked up from the beating he gave her. There is no plausible way that she managed to get to her car and follow him for miles.

And there is a very good reason to believe Deb did not take the bag of jewelry. First, it was not visible in her room. She was so out of it that she did not even manage to close the door to her room. It is not likely that she would have done anything except drop the bag on the floor. Second, when Dexter confronted her, she did not say anything about the jewelry and she had no clear memory of shooting El Sapo. If she had the jewelry, then her reaction would have been a lot different.

How could it possibly be miles away from the storage unit if Deb was the shooter? El Sapo had a large lead on her when he left the storage unit and closed the door on her, and she was just laying there, seriously fcked up from the beating he gave her. There is no plausible way that she managed to get to her car and follow him for miles.

So she could not have gotten out of the storage unit fast enough to get in her car and follow him, but she did get out of the storage unit fast enough to walk up to his car and shoot him?

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And there is a very good reason to believe Deb did not take the bag of jewelry. First, it was not visible in her room. She was so out of it that she did not even manage to close the door to her room. It is not likely that she would have done anything except drop the bag on the floor. Second, when Dexter confronted her, she did not say anything about the jewelry and she had no clear memory of shooting El Sapo. If she had the jewelry, then her reaction would have been a lot different.

If they showed us the jewelry when Dexter went to her house, then it would have been obvious at that point that she killed El Sapo. But since we weren't supposed to know that until later in the episode, they couldn't give that information away so early.