The constituion was mentioned so I was pointing out, just like driving flight is not guarenteed it is a privilege. These days a flight is not required every time you want to do international business.

AHEM

Go stand in the corner, next to Logans Papa. Take this book on commerce and tourism with you.

When you have finished reading it, come back to my desk.You will then write me a five hundred word essay

"How my stupid idea will lead to the economic collapse of the United States"

Dismissed.

06-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Vepr

lol. Tightening up airport security is not going to cause an economic collapse. (Our own politicians along with a growing populace of socialists will accomplish that well before airport security).

06-08-2008, 02:55 PM

mark1

I flew to Isreal form JFK on ELAL, which used to be Israel's national airline until it was privatized. When you see their security, it becomes obvious why this contract was signed.

When you stand in line during check in, they have trained employees who look for signs of nervousness. If they are suspicious, they will question you on line before you even get to the checkout gate. If you answer any questions wrong, even a small detail, or tell them something else that they don't like, you will either be refused entry to the plane right there, or be taken to a side room for a full interrogation, maybe even a strip search. And even after that, you might be refused entry to the plane.

They have their own security separate from the airport's. They scan your full body and luggage. The luggage that passed the scanner is then taken to a side room and searched throughly. Sometimes, when I landed, the inside of my luggage was arranged differently then when I packed it.

All of the stewards and stewardesses on the plane have prior military experience, and they have undercover people on board who are packing heat and not afraid to use it.

They also racially profile Arabs. Many arabs don't make it past security. Some do.

For those that are concerned about the constitution, they do this here, in America. If you don't believe me, fly to Israel on ELAL.

06-08-2008, 02:58 PM

LogansPapa

Coming from an island - I can understand the perspective. An entire nation can be dependent on tourist's dollars, but mine is not. Most Americans fly because it's a once ore twice a year luxury. They don't have to do it. With fuel sur-charges sprouting up for new reasons every week, business flight within the continental United States will remain the backbone of the industry.

But don't kid yourself, Continental's lay-offs last Wednesday are just the beginning and as far as my business goes, if it were not for military AOG components - I would have suffered a 25% downturn in profit this year, so far.

Train ridership - both local and interstate, is exploding. There are reality indicators there for those who have the moxi. If another aircraft derived attack comes to the US you'll see this supposed 'right to fly' go into extinction.

Oh, and dismissed thing, gator does it better.;)

06-08-2008, 03:01 PM

LogansPapa

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1

For those that are concerned about the constitution, they do this here, in America. If you don't believe me, fly to Israel on ELAL.

:cool: F'ing Bingo on the Dingo! Full Marks!

06-08-2008, 03:06 PM

Sonnabend

Quote:

Coming from an island - I can understand the perspective. An entire nation can be dependent on tourist's dollars, but mine is not

Wrong.:rolleyes:

06-08-2008, 03:14 PM

LogansPapa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonnabend

Wrong.:rolleyes:

Wow. Touché. Nice retort.

06-08-2008, 03:32 PM

Sonnabend

Quote:

Wow. Touché. Nice retort.

I am not here to educate you.If you have no understanding of your own economy,. and the impact that tourism and travel has in the US, its not my fault.

I am not responsible for your level of ignorance.

You know two things, LP, jack and shit. And Jack left town last night.

06-08-2008, 04:02 PM

LogansPapa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonnabend

You know two things, LP, jack and shit. And Jack left town last night.

I guess if you've been shown not to have any concept of the Israeli flight security system you have to resort to this kind of display. Pathetic.:rolleyes:

06-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Sonnabend

Quote:

I guess if you've been shown not to have any concept of the Israeli flight security system you have to resort to this kind of display. Pathetic.