Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

MmmmBacon:Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

What a crazy bastard!

I really never understood the phrase "punchable face" until I saw Paul Ryan.

quickdraw:MmmmBacon: Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

What a crazy bastard!

I really never understood the phrase "punchable face" until I saw Paul Ryan.

His face is quite punchable. When the Revolution comes, while the Lawyers (and politicians) are lined up against the Wall, Paul Ryan will be set aside from the others, with a line of angry women waiting for their turn to either punch him in the face or kick him in the jumblies. A Fiver slipped to the guards gives a lady both options on her turn.

MmmmBacon:quickdraw: MmmmBacon: Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

What a crazy bastard!

I really never understood the phrase "punchable face" until I saw Paul Ryan.

His face is quite punchable. When the Revolution comes, while the Lawyers (and politicians) are lined up against the Wall, Paul Ryan will be set aside from the others, with a line of angry women waiting for their turn to either punch him in the face or kick him in the jumblies. A Fiver slipped to the guards gives a lady both options on her turn.

I would definitely go for the face - if only to shut him up. Besides Im not sure he has jumblies.

Of all the controversial issues they could have picked to make central to their platform, I for one, am glad that the GOP decided to become the pro-rape party. That's a message that is sure to bring the people out to the polls in huge numbers.

MmmmBacon:Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

What a crazy bastard!

I think he may have been that easy "push" when you finally get over the top, but the GOP had a gob-smackingly huge assortment of stupidity, sociopathic behavior problems, and out-in-daylight larceny helping to get him to that pinnacle of jackassery.

I'm not jewish, but I've been at enough seders to remember there's a part of the hagaddah(sp?) going "without X there couldn't have been Y" and so on. There's a story of that epic scale to be made of the 1992-2012 GOP.

/maybe before then too, but I can vouch for the last 20 years of absolute bag-over-head brain damage.

How absolutely sick and demented do you have to be to not only think about how you can protect the "rights" of rapists, but to share that thought with other people? And to share that thought in a public way, so everyone in the country knows that you care concerned about the rights of goddamned rapists, people who are (I guess i have to say, should be) universally scorned criminals of one of the highest orders. How sick and sad to you have to be, as an elected official, to think this is an issue that you must speak out on, above all the other things that you could? ( A suggestion: speaking out AGAINST RAPE would be a good idea... just saying.)

Paul Ryan and his ilk are not fit to be elected county dog catcher, never mind to hold the offices they have been elected to. They are sick, sad, demented people who I genuinely believe to be sociopaths.

I honestly cannot wrap my brain around how anyone, anywhere, could come out with stances that are pro-rape or defend rapists in any way, shape or form. How the flying fark did this ever become the norm for the GOP?

Yes, Grand Old Party, spend your actual "working" time writing up legislation that has little chance of passing the House, NO CHANCE of passing the Senate, and thus has ZERO chance of reaching the President's desk, where it would get vetoed if it did (which it NEVER will), and have about a -150% chance of overriding the veto.

This a valuable use of your time. This is why you get six-figure salaries and benefits and privileges up the ying-yang, to spend your time on shiat that you know is going nowhere.

If When it gets shot down in flames, just write-up another one, and try it again! And again! And again!Hell, try it 10, 15, 30 times!!

But remember folks, it's the teachers and the poor people that are the problem with America.

SEC. 2. DECLARATION. In the exercise of the powers of the Congress, including Congress' power under article I, section 8 of the Constitution, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress' power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States-- (1) the Congress declares that-- (A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and (B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions. It seems a "bit" of a stretch to read that, and then come to the conclusion that Paul Ryan's intent is to "make sure rapists have the right to sue the raped mothers of their rape babies for custody."

SEC. 2. DECLARATION. In the exercise of the powers of the Congress, including Congress' power under article I, section 8 of the Constitution, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress' power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States-- (1) the Congress declares that-- (A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and (B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions. It seems a "bit" of a stretch to read that, and then come to the conclusion that Paul Ryan's intent is to "make sure rapists have the right to sue the raped mothers of their rape babies for custody."

Well this is how Jezebel analyzed it.

"Which actually means that states would have the right to ban all abortions with no exception for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Further, in those states, if a woman was raped and wanted to have an abortion in another state, her rapist could theoretically sue her to stop the abortion, and Drum suspects that he'd probably win. "

quickdraw:BravadoGT: Here's the entire declaration from the offending act:

SEC. 2. DECLARATION. In the exercise of the powers of the Congress, including Congress' power under article I, section 8 of the Constitution, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress' power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States-- (1) the Congress declares that-- (A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and (B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions. It seems a "bit" of a stretch to read that, and then come to the conclusion that Paul Ryan's intent is to "make sure rapists have the right to sue the raped mothers of their rape babies for custody."

Well this is how Jezebel analyzed it.

"Which actually means that states would have the right to ban all abortions with no exception for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Further, in those states, if a woman was raped and wanted to have an abortion in another state, her rapist could theoretically sue her to stop the abortion, and Drum suspects that he'd probably win. "

And I can see their reasoning. Under that law the father could prevent the abortion and sue for custody. Especially in states that already give rapists paternal rights.

Even accepting all of those assumptions as true--to categorize Ryan's intent as such is pretty specious

There are few laws that could be enacted that would increase the likelihood that a woman would want an abortion. I imagine knowing her rapist could sue for custody, and therefore become a permanent part of her life, would do it!

BravadoGT:quickdraw: BravadoGT: Here's the entire declaration from the offending act:

SEC. 2. DECLARATION. In the exercise of the powers of the Congress, including Congress' power under article I, section 8 of the Constitution, to make necessary and proper laws, and Congress' power under section 5 of the 14th article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States-- (1) the Congress declares that-- (A) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human being, and is the paramount and most fundamental right of a person; and (B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (2) the Congress affirms that the Congress, each State, the District of Columbia, and all United States territories have the authority to protect the lives of all human beings residing in its respective jurisdictions. It seems a "bit" of a stretch to read that, and then come to the conclusion that Paul Ryan's intent is to "make sure rapists have the right to sue the raped mothers of their rape babies for custody."

Well this is how Jezebel analyzed it.

"Which actually means that states would have the right to ban all abortions with no exception for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Further, in those states, if a woman was raped and wanted to have an abortion in another state, her rapist could theoretically sue her to stop the abortion, and Drum suspects that he'd probably win. "

And I can see their reasoning. Under that law the father could prevent the abortion and sue for custody. Especially in states that already give rapists paternal rights.

Even accepting all of those assumptions as true--to categorize Ryan's intent as such is pretty specious

"Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to."

/if you give Oklahoma a free hand, I guarantee you'll get some screwed up laws.

I bet $25 space dollars that a Republican will eventually say: "If there's anything 70's porno has shown me it's that women might say no, but they're into by the time the bass starts playing. " or something very similar in the 2013.

(B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood

That's odd that they single out gender like that. No protections for sexual preference or race?

fusillade762:(B) the life of each human being begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, irrespective of sex, health, function or disability, defect, stage of biological development, or condition of dependency, at which time every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood

That's odd that they single out gender like that. No protections for sexual preference or race?

quickdraw:MmmmBacon: Thank you, Ryan, for killing any chance you might have had of winning the Presidency in 2016. You have almost single-handedly given the Presidency to the Democrats until at least 2020, if not 2024, and for that I again thank you. Oh, and way to learn from the arse-kicking the GOP took in November 2012, Sir.

What a crazy bastard!

I really never understood the phrase "punchable face" until I saw Paul Ryan.

You don't even need a phrase. The Germans have a single word, "backpfeifengesicht." Which basically translates into "a face badly in need of a fist."

The trick is to get in there and find their reference link as quickly as you can, and then get the hell out of there. Not unlike any other scouting mission. I always feel like my genitals are about to be removed when I go there.

Come to think of it, I get the same feeling at regular Gawker, too. Lifehacker is pretty cool, though.

mrshowrules:Peter von Nostrand: Hmmmm... considering the source of the analysis, I'll take a pass for now

They provide supporting links (HuffPo) and the Bill is a matter of public record (GovTrack website). What aspect of the story do you find suspicious?

From what is cited by Bravado I don't see it. However, I only have my GED in law and based on what others have written, I gathered it was analysis from TFAs linked web site. I didn't have time to read through the whole thing and half a dozen links

Somacandra:Peter von Nostrand: Hmmmm... considering the source of the analysis, I'll take a pass for now

Then here's the same story from an anti-abortionist website. You are now free to post derp without giving poor ol' Jezebel a clicky-click. You're welcome, candyass.