Hey all i have the polarm from Vaults normal (Screaming tiger. Qiang's Unbreakable Polarm) and i have The LFR one from Terrace of Endless spring (Gao-Rei. staff of the legendary Protector) witchone shuld i upgrade of those 2? I guess the LFR one will be an upgrade when i get the socket in it. also it will be better then the normal one i have now if i upgrade it etc.

Any tips on what more i shuld upgrade im thinking of go for wepond then Darkmoon trinket and then my other trinket.

Thing is im wondering is it many more quest b4 i get the legendary gem ? i soon have 10 sigil of power and 10 sigil of wisdom. so If i can get the gem soon then i think it is good to upgrade spring (Gao-Rei. staff of the legendary Protector LFR one) Insted of (Screaming tiger. Qiang's Unbreakable Polarm Normal one). atm im realy unsure about with i shuld upgrade. would like if someone can help me to make a good choise:) thanks

railyth wrote:Thing is im wondering is it many more quest b4 i get the legendary gem ? i soon have 10 sigil of power and 10 sigil of wisdom. so If i can get the gem soon then i think it is good to upgrade spring (Gao-Rei. staff of the legendary Protector LFR one) Insted of (Screaming tiger. Qiang's Unbreakable Polarm Normal one). atm im realy unsure about with i shuld upgrade. would like if someone can help me to make a good choise:) thanks

My understanding is that you can finish the quest in LFR to get your gem. Others can confirm.

It depends. Is your raid anywhere near getting into normal Terrance? If so I would just wait and hope you can grab that. I have the heroic version of Qiang's weapon but I'm still using the normal version of Gao-Rei because it turns out to be slightly better (based on my current stat weights) because of the added agility from the legendary gem.

The scaling appears to be exponential according to the well-known rule of 13% stat budget per 13 item levels. That is, all stats are scaled by roughly 1.13^(4/13) = 1.038 for 4 item levels or 1.13^(8/13) = 1.078 for 8 item levels. The scaling includes weapon damage and trinket proc/use effects, so generally the weapon is going to be the best slot to upgrade by far, with trinket a distant second. (My quick napkinmath suggests the weapon upgrade is about 4 times better than a trinket upgrade, which is in turn about 20% better than a high-budget armor slot.)

Stenhaldi wrote:It's also notable that PvP gear can be upgraded in parallel with PvE gear since it uses conquest points instead. Upon the release of 5.1, I switched back to my PvP 4-piece, now upgraded to level 491.

Yeah, I saw some of your logs and I assumed you were doing the Displacer Beast trick to ravage, but I haven't really tried it out. That makes much more sense, rofl.

I added the upgrade gear feature to my simulator in about 60 seconds using the 13% in 13 equation, but then became really frustrated after encountering lots of off by 1 rounding errors. Eventually, I was encountering [-2, +2] errors.

After chatting with the guys on simc irc, I came to realize that the actual item level upgrade stuff was implemented by some complete idiot at Blizzard, where it requires all this extra shit to reconstruct the proper item level scaling.