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Jack Riley, really good point about the ICLEI and our local governments. We better start paying better attention to what we are being spoon fed in our own cities, towns, municipalities. We are being targeted from the bottom up, and that is how we need to defend ourselves against agenda 21, from the bottom up.

Ezra, there’s nothing wrong with wealthy people enjoying the benefits of household staff. It provides employment and keeps money moving through the economy.

But you raise some good questions that should be put to Tory. What about people with large families? How does he manage garbage, recycling, compost in his own homes? I’d much rather hear his answers to these questions than speculation about what his answers might be.

And finally, it takes little effort to put different kinds of waste in different bins. Once you try it, it soon becomes automatic. Where there is an opportunity for improvement is to have more uniformity among jurisdictions. To do it properly, someone like John Tory would have to juggle three sets of rules for his three homes.

Ezra asked why the mayor of Toronto would attend the Paris conference since it was in federal jurisdiction.
Good question!

The answer is that Toronto has been a member of ICLEI since 1992. ICLEI (International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives) is a UN program aimed at doing an end run around federal governments in pushing its environmental agenda. It’s part of the UN Environmental Program and UN Agenda 21 dreamed up by Maurice Strong who had big ambitions for increased UN power and world government.

Directly involving local (city) governments gives the UN a large supply of useful idiots to implement its many “sustainability” ideas and useful idiots to hector higher levels of government into accepting the UN’s broader political agenda (power grab). “Climate change” is the UN’s biggest hammer.

The ICLEI website states: “ICLEI has grown to become the largest international association of local governments, representing more than 1,200 cities and towns in over 65 counties worldwide.” (Including many Canadian cities).
They all attend the same conferences and use the same eco-jargon (word-of-the-day: “sustainability”). Most city planning documents are loaded with it.

@ Nathan, “Nothing wrong with calling out someone on hypocrisy, but as it stands you’re just making up stuff and complaining about efforts to reduce waste”
That was your made up interpretation Nathan, it is not what Ezra said. Comprehension! Reading between the lines and inserting your hater buddies rhetoric doesn’t count.
What is your point about Condo’s paying for their own garbage pick-up? You think a strata fee is a free pass around a municipal mandate? I highly doubt they have unlimited dumping, while everyone else gets their size reduced garbage can.
Seriously Nathan, who’s making stuff up.

@ Nathan W commented 5 hours ago
Condos pay for their own waste disposal.
Nothing wrong with calling out someone on hypocrisy, but as it stands you’re just making up stuff and complaining about efforts to reduce waste. Not a very good moment for The Rebel.
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Well, I think it is a good moment.

And I really think it is interesting that you never have anything good to say about this site yet you keep coming back.

Wanted to thank you for helping this site move up in the statistics – seems it has jumped again.

And I might add that not all people here are intellectually challenged, dangerous right wing nuts or foolish welfare sitting complainers.

There are some pretty well educated and well to do folks who see you and what you are and wonder – does he even have an original thought?

So far the answer has been – Nope!

Hope you have a nice day and your walk to the mail box is not too strenuous.

Condos pay for their own waste disposal.
Nothing wrong with calling out someone on hypocrisy, but as it stands you’re just making up stuff and complaining about efforts to reduce waste. Not a very good moment for The Rebel.

About 25 years ago , I built a nice deck that attached to my house and was built around a silver Birch tree . I really like that tree. There is about a 5 inch gap between the deck and the tree. For 25 years we have been tossing all the Greens down this little gap- and everything just disappears . POOF !

Being independently wealthy I certainly hope Tory didn’t bill the Ontario taxpayer for his unnecessary trip to the climate change summit in Paris.
Mike Mann, maybe in your downtown neighbourhood. You don’t speak for all of the GTO. That people are mostly happy with Tory is not what I hear.

These bloody elitists don’t even know enough to be embarrassed by their own conduct!
Hopefully, when Ezra can afford some more reporters, they’ll go ask Tory to his face about his houses and his garbage. It’s much harder for them to ignore their own behaviour when you stuff it in their face!!

social engineering, the excuse and diversion is global warming, communists have found their outlet after the fall of the wall, no where to go but to the open arms of democracy…as Obama said when he is done America will be changed, now JT will do the same for Canada…

Being a senior with aches and pains in a crowded downtown TO neighborhood struggling to move those blasted containers to the curb, I curse David Millar and all his fans who went crazy with forcing taxpayers to be their own garbage men. And, now I curse John Tory, whom I did not vote for, for his new additional garbage regulations.

I have in the past worked up at Larder Lake in Northeastern Ontario, when they would take everything you put out on garbage day, unsorted. It all went to the land fill (pretty damn small for a Town of about 700 persons) and was regularly burned then buried. Then the town council of Larder Lake decided that burning garbage polluted the air ( you have to get out of TO and go there and breath in just how clean that air is!!) so they stopped. The black bears who came to feed were often disappointed until the burning stopped. Now the bush all around the land fill, past the “protective” fences, is a garbage dump created by the bears moving stuff around. Don’t you just love town or city councillors who have harebrained ideas ?

What happened to shipping TO garbage to Kirkland Lake and the old Adams Mine open pit ? The main protesters in the region were retired and practicing school teachers and other government employees with good salaried and guaranteed health and pension benefits, and farmers miles away south at New Liskeard. The Joe Smuck who needed a job wasn’t even considered in the arguments despite good scientific evidence proving the safe and viable operation of this project.

Did anyone really think John Tory cared about anything but getting himself elected anywhere? Did anyone notice that he is not going to run again after this term but rather retire? How can you expect a Mayor who is not running again to give a crap about doing what is right like Doug Ford would have done? Well, lots of people in Toronto did believe Tory would do right and got a Mr. Dithers as a Mayor who says he’s blue but wears red/orange underwear.

What ever happened to the all garbage, every work day pickup that used to exist across Canada a few decades ago. Are we really making that much more garbage or are we just daft? Or, is all this ranting about the past glory days nothing but a pile of…well…garbage.

My parents grew up in the depression, so in the 60’s in southern Ontario, before there was such a thing as ‘environmentalism’ and ‘recycling’ we had a garbage closet in our kitchen in our suburban house . One container for paper which we burned in a 45 gallon drum in the back yard. One container for glass and tin – most of which we ‘reused’ (now called recycling). One container for the little bit of plastic and everything else, that was ‘picked up’ about once a month – and that we paid for. And one container called the ‘slop bucket’ which held all the organics- which went into the big 4’ X 6’ X 4’ hole in the backyard along with all the grass clippings and weeds and dandelions, (which I was mostly responsible for digging out as punishment duty for something) which we used to fertilize our garden, which meant we all had to help to ‘put up’ in the fall for the following winter and spring.
Since we weren’t big consumers of store bought stuff, we didn’t produce much garbage anyway, and there was a whole lot less packaging back then.
50 years later I do it pretty much the same way out here in the BC interior – it just seems normal and efficient – in spite of the Environazis. Today, I have to take a couple of small white plastic grocery bags to the dump (land fill) every month or two…and then there’s the ‘share-shed’! I burn paper in my wood stove – my sole source of heat, still re-use what I can and I supplement the compost with horse manure for my garden…
For the commissars in charge – like gun control, traffic control, speech control and all the many other controls, imposed by the Nanny Staters on us for our own good, Environmentalism and Recycling has little to do with the environment or public safety, or equality and everything to do with control…
Like every other socialist state – Nanny or otherwise – where we are all ‘equal’ – equally poor and equally without rights. Hypocrisy of the elites goes hand in hand with double standards and Marxism!
‘They’ pretty much leave us to our own devices out here in the boonies, they know better that to try that crap on us – out here in the boonies…at least for now – look at Alberta!

Peter Netterville commented – "When it comes to taking care of the environment, doing something real like sorting out the recyclables is about the only thing environuts have correct&lt;&gt; I have no problems doing my part at being a good steward of the environment with real and tangible things. Sorting out recyclables from the rest of the garbage is a good thing, "

Peter, you’re welcome to come over and rummage through my garbage any time you have an attack of environmental guilt – as for me, my time is money and unless someone pays me at least union scale for this pointless work, it will be left to others – because in the end analysis neither landfill nor container recycling are economically or environmentally sustainable. Now if we used this refuse as fuel in high efficiency furnaces to drive steam-powered electric production, we may have something there. Until the mathematically demonstrable engineering benefits of using low grade combustible waste-to-energy technologies (instead of deleting energy) dawns on the deluded green weenies on city councils, we will continue to drown in a sea of refuse and third rate energy consumptive plastics – and I will continue to ignore their senseless feel-good placebos.

And to avoid electing Olivia Chow and Doug Ford, Toronto voted in this guy? Let’s see…ran for the Premiership of Ontario – lost; ran for Mayor of T.O. twice before – lost; and was the National Campaign Director for the PCs 1993 election bid – lost. Did this guy ever have a good idea – apart from giving up on law, because he was lousy at it?

In Harrow, a small county where I live in Ontario the garbage collectors pick up pretty much everything non toxic, including furniture, carpet and basic junk. Spring cleaning usually sets out about six or eight bags of trash. When we put out white goods, old fans and other potential useful items you’ll see a couple of guys swing by before pick up and take them away. As for recycling, we as a large family recycle pretty much only cans, jars, plastic water bottles and cardboard and like hell I’m washing them out unless we are using them in the home for growing plants, canning and the rest. As for cardboard we usually splinter it into kindling for our backyard campfires. Lord knows the Libdumbs hate campfires. We have a composter, but not because the Liberasses demand it, rather we grow raspberries, strawberries, vegetables and herbs all through the spring, summer and fall so we use it for feeding the crops as we’ve done for years. Geez, sooner or later they’ll probably tell us backyard gardens are hazardous to the environment and kids will be slapped with a “naughty” tax for selling lemonade in the summer.

I don’t see anyone here differentiating between the anthropogenic climate change eco-nitwits from that real and practical types of environmental stewardship. Is everyone here against taking care our our environment is practical ways?

Just fill your ‘small’ garbage bin, then take the surplus and dump it in the parking lot where Tory lives. Bet he has his maid dump tons of garbage down the chute, Gin bottles, the lot.
Global warming Moron that he is.

Well, the nanny trifecta that is our government strikes again! We, the peasants must do as our liege lords says once again. And many of us Canadians probably will, as we have become so docile and complacent as society. Socialism is the Western version of tyranny.