Wow just read an article where some WV teens were going around to grocery stores and coughing purposely over the vegetables, video taping it and putting it online.
WTF can be running through their heads.....hope they get just desserts.

Terrible. Probably all for social media LIKES. So glad I grew up in the days of Compuserve and AOL and not today's gluttony of social mediawhoredom.

I hope they get NO desserts and are forced to live on a diet of only rotten & dirty vegetables.

Thankfully there are other youngsters that are setting a better example.

Liam Elkind’s big heart and his break from college was a highlight of 83-year-old Carol Sterling’s week.

The retired arts administrator has been sheltering at home during the coronavirus outbreak, unable to shop for herself. Yearning for some fresh food, she found the 20-year-old through their synagogue, and soon he showed up at her door with a bag full of salad fixings and oranges.

Elkind, a junior at Yale, and a friend, Simone Policano, amassed 1,300 volunteers in 72 hours to deliver groceries and medicine to older New Yorkers and other vulnerable people. They call themselves Invisible Hands, and they do something else in the process — provide human contact and comfort, at a safe distance, of course.

Last night I drove by the TKD gym that I train at (I haven't been there in about a week and a half) and they were holding a class. All other gyms are closed but they're going strong. I do know the owner and manager fairly well and I wouldn't be surprised if they still believe that the virus is a hoax.

Anybody can get it but that’s not who’s dying. Nothing against old people. Your welcome to stay home and be grumpy as everyone recommends you to do. And if you don’t like being around people having fun, then don’t be around us. If you stay indoors you won’t have to worry about that, right? Meanwhile I enjoyed another day outdoors and noticed a lot of people were doing the same. Maybe they didn’t get your permission?

Your actions in previous posts have the potential to leave blood on your hands.

You have to be around people to have fun? That’s sad. It’s a human weakness you can’t overcome. It’s ok, Pinside if here for you. You have to be strong, not weak.

If you are not part of the solution, you are automatically part of the problem.

It’s because the only data we had was primarily from China. I don’t put much stock in the accuracy of any information that comes from China and reports that new cases there are almost at 0 are being contradicted by leaks throughout their country and the media. Apparently the notion that China is getting back to work and that the decisive action of their government beat the virus is highly questionnable and may just be CCP propaganda.

Especially since we track their pollution rate and it hasn't come back up.

Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:Well if this virus kills me there are some pros:
No longer have to work 10 hrs a day
Won’t have to pay bills
Won’t have to get old
Won’t have to have hope
Won’t have to work 49 weeks out of 52 a year
Won’t ever get poison ivy/sumac

Wow just read an article where some WV teens were going around to grocery stores and coughing purposely over the vegetables, video taping it and putting it online.
WTF can be running through their heads.....hope they get just desserts.

Well if this virus kills me there are some pros:
No longer have to work 10 hrs a day
Won’t have to pay bills
Won’t have to get old
Won’t have to have hope
Won’t have to work 49 weeks out of 52 a year
Won’t ever get poison ivy/sumac

That's the way I look at it too, but then someone else will raise my kids and I just can't let that happen.

My daughter came down with a cough and a fever over at the babysitters house, the other day. I had to call out of work and pick the kids up. Later that night, my wife gets a text from the babysitter saying that she will not watch the kids during the quarantine. My wife works in emergency medicine and I work in the oil and gas industry. All daycare places are closed. I have to apply for emergency leave. Daughter had a 24 hour virus and now I’m out of work for the foreseeable future.

My daughter came down with a cough and a fever over at the babysitters house, the other day. I had to call out of work and pick the kids up. Later that night, my wife gets a text from the babysitter saying that she will not watch the kids during the quarantine. My wife works in emergency medicine and I work in the oil and gas industry. All daycare places are closed. I have to apply for emergency leave. Daughter had a 24 hour virus and now I’m out of work for the foreseeable future.

BobSacamano After having a moment to think I'd like to apologize to you for having ripped you earlier in the thread. What I should have done is simply respect you have an opinion and the right to express it and Welcome you to pinside! I promise you most on here are not the asshole I was to you earlier, there are a lot of good people on here and at times like that we see it in full measure. Stay healthy my friend.

Quoted from RWH:BobSacamano After having a moment to think I'd like to apologize to you for having ripped you earlier in the thread. What I should have done is simply respect you have an opinion and the right to express it and Welcome you to pinside! I promise you most on here are not the asshole I was to you earlier, there are a lot of good people on here and at times like that we see it in full measure. Stay healthy my friend.

Apology accepted, but not necessary.

I'm just as scared and disappointed as you and everyone else is with this mess.

Where my fault lies, is that I'm a bit more angry and bitter at why we're here and what possibly led to that. But I guess that can be dealt with at a later time.

This might have been posted already, but it looks like scientists in Germany have successfully mapped the virus’s protease.
Apparently now that it’s been mapped, they are working towards finding an inhibitor to prevent binding.

It's not convenient for any of us to voluntarily miss out on all of the things we enjoy like going out to eat or play pinball on location. I don't blame you for wanting to do those things. I want do do those things too!!!
When you go out to eat at a restaurant, the waitstaff is within 2 feet of you (or closer) and is breathing all over you. And you and everyone else who's gone in to eat that day, are breathing over him/her.

We’re on the same side (concern). To be in solidarity with my friends in big cities where the SHTF moment is already here, I won’t go to another restaurant or other non-essential commercial setting until the danger has passed for everyone. Thanks for keeping me honest.

Have we really outsourced so much manufacturing to China that we can’t even rush items like medical masks for our own needs?

Do you really have to ask that??? Beginning with NAFTA and our relaxed trade with China we pretty much cut off our own feet off with manufacturing. And then you have to go even further down the line to the tool & die/machinery companies that build the machines that would be needed. We lost many, many of those too. Including the one I worked at for 14 years. And funny you mentioned WW2 because I posted in the other thread that my former company was one of those companies that converted from a bakery to building gun parts during WW2 and just morphed into a tool & Die company from there on out.

We’re on the same side (concern). To be in solidarity with my friends in big cities where the SHTF moment is already here, I won’t go to another restaurant or other non-essential commercial setting until the danger has passed for everyone. Thanks for keeping me honest.

I'm not trying to be a dick and single you personally out. I'm sick of eating food from my "pandemic pantry". You can only eat Rice & Beans for so many meals until you want to barf. (Although I am thankful for what food I do have!)

I don't know what the correct information is for whether or not YOU personally can safely go out and eat right now. We are getting a mixed message on that. While I personally think you're less at risk if you live in a rural area versus living in New York, California or Washington cities, I can't confidently say that risk is ZERO.

We're told to social distance and stay inside, but we have to eat, so they say we can go to the grocery store and to the pharmacy. Have you been in a grocery store lately? It's wall-to-wall packed with people! You might as well be in a packed restaurant.

I apologize if you took that personally, as I'm just as frightened and frustrated as you are.

Maybe we're foolish to try to fight this? Just rip off the band-aid and let the pain hurt for a second instead of slowly peeling it off and enduring the pain for a drawn out period of time? A lot of us and our loved ones are going to die, but not everyone will die. The planet will still be here for us to pick up where we left off.

Especially since we track their pollution rate and it hasn't come back up.

Recent reports suggest China has building power on and is running some factories to make it look like people are going back to work. I’m not sure we should really believe they have Covid19 under control in their country. Kind of hard to do when it originated there and they have 1.4 billion people.

China is very concerned about the future and long term impact of global investment and manufacturing in their country right now due to the COVID situation and anger about how they handled things, covered it up early on. As a result, the CCP is cranking up the propaganda machine and doing everything they can to shift the blame elsewhere.

My daughter came down with a cough and a fever over at the babysitters house, the other day. I had to call out of work and pick the kids up. Later that night, my wife gets a text from the babysitter saying that she will not watch the kids during the quarantine. My wife works in emergency medicine and I work in the oil and gas industry. All daycare places are closed. I have to apply for emergency leave. Daughter had a 24 hour virus and now I’m out of work for the foreseeable future.

On my local news, they were talking about how most daycare centers were closed BUT they also mentioned that a few more were open explicitly for taking care of children that belonged to VIPs like your wife. They did not give specifics, but it might be something to look into. What are her co-workers doing? Has her employer talked about providing on-site child care?

Evers also asked child care providers to prioritize families of health care workers and essential service providers, and he asked parents to stay home and care for their children if they're able to.

The state is also exploring ways to serve health care workers with on-site child care, according to the release.

Amundson said the agency is creating an online Find Care page that will connect families with providers, including idled workers willing to provide in-home childcare. National Guard volunteers could help set up and staff temporary child care centers if it comes to that.

They are very concerned about the future and long term impact of global investment and manufacturing in their country right now due to the COVID situation and anger about how they handled it early on. As a result, they are doing everything they can to shift the blame for elsewhere.

While I definitely think China is not free of blame from their unregulated wild game markets, and their initial cover-up, I'm praying that the rest of the world doesn't fan the flames to a level where we get into an unnecessary conflict that will potentially lead to more lives lost.

While I definitely think China is not free of blame from their unregulated wild game markets, and their initial cover-up, I'm praying that the rest of the world doesn't fan the flames to a level where we get into an unnecessary conflict that will potentially lead to more lives lost.
Although War is usually good for the economy... so, maybe?

Agreed. This didn’t have to happen if China permanently closed the wild animal markets after SARS in 2003. They let them reopen unfettered and unregulated again and now we have this, something much worse.

I don’t think a war will start anytime soon but make no mistake, relations between the US/the West and China have been deteriorating for many years and COVID isn’t going to help China when this is all over. I already think we are in the early stages of a Cold War with China and the fact their government is manufacturing conspiracy theories to blame the US military for Covid19 is just more evidence of that.

Countries and global corporations are going to be angry once this is over and I predict there will be a backlash. There will be far more hesitance to invest more in China and a lot of manufacturing globally will be shifted back home or diversified elsewhere.

My son and I just got home from PE class. Did a playground workout for back and walked to and from. Gotta do something!

Around here they are shutting down the playgrounds. It’s a transmission vector. Sucks too because it just started getting nice outside around here and I have been bribing my 3 yr old with the prospect of the park swing set.

American industry ramped up production of vital war equipment and supplies during WWII. I cant understand why the same can’t be done to make basic items like medical masks and vital medical supplies right now. Have we really outsourced so much manufacturing to China that we can’t even rush items like medical masks for our own needs

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR), like most Americans, was not eager for the United States to enter a global military conflict. But unlike the ardent isolationists, he also figured it was inevitable. Even though American troops didn’t officially join World War II until December 1941, FDR started preparations in 1940. They included...

American Preparation for World War II
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR), like most Americans, was not eager for the United States to enter a global military conflict. But unlike the ardent isolationists, he also figured it was inevitable. Even though American troops didn’t officially join World War II until December 1941, FDR started preparations in 1940. They included

Patriotism was rampant people believed in their country and believed in themselves, the generation that spanned the start of WWII through the end of the Korean war will never be repeated again, they are the greatest generation in the history of America.

Well if this virus kills me there are some pros:
No longer have to work 10 hrs a day
Won’t have to pay bills
Won’t have to get old
Won’t have to have hope
Won’t have to work 49 weeks out of 52 a year
Won’t ever get poison ivy/sumac

You forgot Won't get Lyme Disease...or that red meat allergy thing from those same evil bastards.

That’s really the problem, weighing controlling the virus against the economic effects and limiting peoples liberty.
South Korea was one of the most successful and they had a massive testing program and strict isolation.

My question/statement was slightly stronger:

We know the Chinese/Taiwanese way works -- it's been proved.

But it isn't clear to me whether this somewhat half-assed effort is going to actually contain the disease at all -- in a bounded time frame ?

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