quote:I also grew up a huge boxing fan & still enjoy the sport. It's not really an argument either. Boxing cards/events suck.....there has never been a great undercard, or a boxing event with a bunch of huge names/exciting fights on 1 main card. You go to a boxing event for 1 fight only

you don't watch boxing. All you have to do is go back like 6 weeks Garcia vs Morales on Showtime EXCELLENT undercard.

quote:The comment about the affliction tees is unquestionably true. But even if that wasn't the case, boxing would still be a way better product for live viewing. There is nothing exciting about watching a guy try for five minutes to move from side mount to full mount.

there are two explanations for you feeling this way:

1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general 2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple

quote:Bingo. And I can't stand watching MMA guys throw 3 punch combos and then going to the mat and grappling. Yes I know grappling is an art and is difficult, but it makes a fight so boring. I'd rather watch 2 shitty boxers on an undercard get into a sloppy brawl. Pretty, no. Exciting, yes.

To me there's nothing uglier than two unskilled guys slowly bashing each other in the face. I love a skilled boxing match but there's nothing uglier than two guys who are past their prime or just unskilled slowly converting each other into lobotomy patients

Boxing is more of a legit sport than MMA. I've followed MMA from it's beginning and appreciate the skill and dedication involved. The thing is....I would never attend a MMA event and I like to attend boxing matches. The douchebaggery element is just too prevelant in MMA. Kind of like people from Central ya know....just straight up douche bags....except on a global scale. I guess I'm just a traditionalist. In other words out dated. Professional boxing is in a sad state of affairs and just keeps getting worse.

quote:1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general 2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple

I've watched enough MMA to understand what is going when they're grappling. And this changes not the fact that (1) when viewed live it is difficult to follow what is going on from anywhere other than basically ringside seats, and (2) there is nothing exciting about watching a guy try for five minutes to go from side mount to full mount. Nothing at all.

quote:To me there's nothing uglier than two unskilled guys slowly bashing each other in the face. I love a skilled boxing match but there's nothing uglier than two guys who are past their prime or just unskilled slowly converting each other into lobotomy patients

1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general 2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple

And just so that we're clear, I've watched tons of MMA. I had a roommate who loved the stuff, and so I ended up watching it all the time. I don't think MMA sucks at all -- I would pay good money to see Silva and GSP fight. I just don't think MMA makes for a very good live viewing experience. And I generally think boxing is a better sport.*