i see this year as having the potential of rivaling last year with respect to upsets.

in general, there is a disconnect between the polls and reality, and the disconnect is getting shockingly large. being as poll position factors into the bcs formula, i think that a glaring and serious issue.

I have to go w/ the A&M loss. A loss by any B12 team (even w/ A&M's current difficulties) to a FCS nobody is a more significant loss. Although those of you in the west never hear of ECU, they aren't bad. They beat Boisie St in a bowl last year and finished well. Still a big loss for a team w/ the talent and tradition of a VT, but I vote A&M.

I have to go w/ the A&M loss. A loss by any B12 team (even w/ A&M's current difficulties) to a FCS nobody is a more significant loss. Although those of you in the west never hear of ECU, they aren't bad. They beat Boisie St in a bowl last year and finished well. Still a big loss for a team w/ the talent and tradition of a VT, but I vote A&M.

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they were talking about that yesterday - about how ecu had been building to this point.

i agree with ATM as #1.....Va Tech lost to a team that has a "name" coach and won some games, is favored to win it's division in C-USA. Va Tech is also coming off a L to KU (3rd or 4th best team in the Big XII last year) in the Orange Bowl as a weak BCS champion. lack the playmaker at QB they've had in the past. game is also on the road.

losing to Arkie State with all the hoopla around anything ATM and almighty Kyle (in their own views)...really shatters the foundations of the program and hits maybe some hard truths about where Aggie football has been for the last decade. flatlined in a conference with a lot of teams getting better: Tech, MU, KU, CU, OSU....to whom they have much more in common than the South powers they like to compare themselves to. and, what's worse, that first group is going one way and ATM is going the other....seems.

EVERYONE predicted an ECU upset over VaTech... EVERYONE predicted Utah to beat UM, in fact, I think Utah was favored. You left one off though, Oregon State losing to Stanford. Oregon state was the trendy pick to come in second in the Pac-10 and Stanford was expected to go 0-fer the season.

EVERYONE predicted an ECU upset over VaTech... EVERYONE predicted Utah to beat UM, in fact, I think Utah was favored. You left one off though, Oregon State losing to Stanford. Oregon state was the trendy pick to come in second in the Pac-10 and Stanford was expected to go 0-fer the season.

A little off topic, but congrats on the win against clemson. You guys looked really strong(which of course makes our close loss to you guys last year look much better!). Hopefully we'll play you guys again this year in a much bigger bowl!

I think the worst conference loss was Clemson because they were arguably the best of the ACC. They are ranked the highest for an ACC team and loss to a "middle" SEC team. It just goes to show how dominant the SEC teams are.

I think the worst conference loss was Clemson because they were arguably the best of the ACC. They are ranked the highest for an ACC team and loss to a "middle" SEC team. It just goes to show how dominant the SEC teams are.

It's been said already, but Pitt losing to anybody cannot be considered a surprise. The fact that they're ranked has me questioning the pollsters sanity. Wanstedt has lost everywhere he's gone. It's not just a question of why he still has a job, but why he keeps getting opportunities to kill a new program.

It's been said already, but Pitt losing to anybody cannot be considered a surprise. The fact that they're ranked has me questioning the pollsters sanity. Wanstedt has lost everywhere he's gone. It's not just a question of why he still has a job, but why he keeps getting opportunities to kill a new program.

I have to go w/ the A&M loss. A loss by any B12 team (even w/ A&M's current difficulties) to a FCS nobody is a more significant loss. Although those of you in the west never hear of ECU, they aren't bad. They beat Boisie St in a bowl last year and finished well. Still a big loss for a team w/ the talent and tradition of a VT, but I vote A&M.

they were talking about that yesterday - about how ecu had been building to this point.

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Exactly, ECU is a decent program in Conference USA and they just gave Holtz an extension. They're a projected bowl team this year. That's not as bad a loss at Pitt losing to BGSU or A&M losing to Arky State, and both of these were on their home fields.