On 20/01/2011 tmc wrote:>Just wondering how many of the people here visit the high country be it>hiking, hunting, fishing, camping, 4x4ing, riding etc.>>Cattle or no cattle, the place is GOING TO SH!T.>>Travis.
I was at the howqua bindaree hut area saturday and there where 8 cars parked at the camp area where the bridge is washed out (looks like for many years) at the foot of Helicopter spur . Presumable they were walking as either start of howitt spur, helicopter spur or road to bluff hut all giving nice weekend walks or long day walks . Bluff hut spur road had its closed sign pushed over and had been driven over there was a more detailed road closed notice on a star picket beside the road . It appeared a large number of vechiles were going to that "iconic old " craigs hut . there were some very large washout areas on the circuit road that had been repaired but it was closed after the Monument turnoff .
If I were the catleman putting cattle out in the park I would be worried about them dying from acute lead poisoning as there are quite radical people opposed to grazing . In the Barmah Forest it was fairly common for carcasses being found minus their hind quarters . 20 minutes with a trailer and hoist and 2 people would have the legs in the trailer and be off

On 31/01/2011 lacto wrote:>If I were the catleman putting cattle out in the park I would be worried>about them dying from acute lead poisoning as there are quite radical people>opposed to grazing . In the Barmah Forest it was fairly common for carcasses>being found minus their hind quarters . 20 minutes with a trailer and hoist>and 2 people would have the legs in the trailer and be off >
Wouldn't those be people simply stealing meat, rather than anyone with any kind of political motivation?

Thanks, thats a wonderful 'scarey greenies have guns and chainsaws and are roaming the hills dismembering cows' conspiracy theory.

Just as an aside to the original post, I once stumbled across some 4Wders cutting up a cow near Mt Lovick, i can assure you they weren't 'greenies', and they were also pretty damn scarey when they realised i was alone and i'd seen what they were doing...

On 2/02/2011 Cam Walker wrote:>Thanks, thats a wonderful 'scarey greenies have guns and chainsaws and>are roaming the hills dismembering cows' conspiracy theory.>>Just as an aside to the original post, I once stumbled across some 4Wders>cutting up a cow near Mt Lovick, i can assure you they weren't 'greenies',>and they were also pretty damn scarey when they realised i was alone and>i'd seen what they were doing...

It was actually a bit of a 'deliverance' moment. Almost dark, 3 really drunk blokes with a gun, a spotlight and very big knives. Me, a young hippie looking guy with a backpack. "Me, no i'm not a greenie, why do you ask?" ...

On 19/01/2011 kieranl wrote:>The theory seems to be that if you say something loudly enough and often>enough, eg "Grazing reduces blazing" that it will be true.>Whereas the science to date says that there was no significant impact>of wildfire between grazed and ungrazed areas.>if the science had said : 'Evidence is equivocal" or "Not enough evidence">then you could make a case for a trial, but that isn't the situation here.>

But that's because the next day, someone will pay some other guy in a lab coat to come out with a 'scientific' study concluding the opposite viewpoint.

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Hill. Melway Reference: Map 47 E9. The town hall is a six minute walk from
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On 21/10/2011 JimmyS wrote:>Still can't believe that MCAV are STILL going with the "Grazing reduces>Blazing" argument... Haven't they been proven wrong to many times?
Mark Coleman, president of the MCAV has a letter in the Age complaining of the lack of balance in The Age's coverage. Bare-faced gall. That mob have got so much positive coverage (romantic man-from-snowy-river stuff) and much of their "side" of the argument is just to abuse the scientists working in the area.