as always Aptosid surprises me with its facility to install (quick-clean-stable)

this box is supposed to serve as a multimedia source (audio and video from internet and from usb keys or other mobile things)connected to a crt tv via svideo on the mx440se

the problem is that i cannot get nouveau displaying the svideo on the tv, when i go to paramaters->display i can see the tv recognised, but if i validate the check box i get the tv out diplayed on the monitor (on top of monitor display !)

i suppose there is something to change in the xorg.conf but i really do not know what and i was unable to find an answer wandering around on internet, since there are so many controversial/outdates propositions

so if somebody would be kind enough to help i would greatly appreciate !!!

(see my screenshots here :http://www.imagup.com/data/1140618797.html

and here :http://www.imagup.com/data/1140618921.html)

also here is my xorg.conf : (created after installation while trying to install nvidia driver with s**i)

thanks for all your suggestions. i will digg this very week and give a result later
i was thinking of trying to modify some of xorg.conf parts and will look closer to piper's xorg.conf for that

since i was not aware of manual pages suggested by DonKult i have also quite a lot to dig there... and other links mentionned.

anyways, many thanks and see you later,

apoG

apogarte

Post subject:Posted: 09.01.2012, 19:07

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ok here i am :

i installed lxrandr (because i am using xfce4) and ran it :
tv out is recognised, but when i validate it via the check box i have the same superimposition of tv out on the main screen (as mentionned earlier when using the display control from settings manager)

links given don't gave me any clarity, helas. i think effectively tv out is a work in progress for this card :

mx 440 SE is nv17 based so it should be ok ? but marked as work in progress in the "feature matrix"...

so i must find a way to use nvidia blob driver from an ancient xfce based aptosid (hum hum don't you throw me stones) OR,

other track i will try to follow is to edit xorg.conf but i still do not understand clearly wich part could tell that output for tv is not to be sent to main monitor !!! i would be gratefull of suggestions about that. What do you think ?

still searching, thanks,

apoG

bfree

Post subject:Posted: 09.01.2012, 19:48

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I'd try xrandr on the command line. It might offer you some clues that are being hidden by the gui (and just maybe the gui is buggy or not suitable for tv-outs).

apogarte

Post subject:Posted: 10.01.2012, 09:29

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hi

bfree wrote:

I'd try xrandr on the command line. It might offer you some clues that are being hidden by the gui (and just maybe the gui is buggy or not suitable for tv-outs).

Thanks, i'm in it since yersterday

been reading a lot about xrandr and there is no change for now

i am currently trying to make command line options clearer to me in understanding what is doing what...

when set to 1 tv out is displayed on the monitor, not on the tv, in superimposition to monitor display (as usual bouhouhou...)

apoG

slam

Post subject:Posted: 10.01.2012, 10:46

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If you had installed the closed source Nvidia driver before (and specially if you used some script to do so), you need to have a recent system and kernel, and exactly follow step by step my HoTow in order to get a properly working Nouveau. Please do so, and report again. Your card does ok with video out, I have used the same in the past on an older laptop.
Greetings,
Chris

If you had installed the closed source Nvidia driver before (and specially if you used some script to do so), you need to have a recent system and kernel, and exactly follow step by step my HoTow in order to get a properly working Nouveau. Please do so, and report again. Your card does ok with video out, I have used the same in the past on an older laptop.
Greetings,
Chris

hi Chris

i've been cleaning everything following your howto, things remains exactly the same, svideo out displayed on top of my monitor display, nothing on tv. Did't tried to install nvidia driver by now but i suppose things will not change since that driver is not compatible with latest xorg version.

if you think a dump of my logs (and wich) would give more infos let me know i can paste somewhere.

i'm about to try and install previous aptosid (aptosid 2011-01-xfce4)to see if this enables me to use the nvidia 96-43-20 driver. This is not making me happy but i want to use this stuff now. ()

cheers,

apoG

apogarte

Post subject:Posted: 17.01.2012, 22:38

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hi to all

i'm afraid the trouble came from hardware : i was using a s-video cable connected to a scart adapter on an old tv. After moving to a more recent tv with a s-video connector, the tv out started to work straight forward without any kind of manipulations, and i feel slightly ashame for this... Should have checked those cable/adapters connections at first...

it seems using s-video + scart adapter is'nt a good idea though... i had checked the connexion between s-video cable and scart connector, from web pages, and they where good, but probably the scart input on the tv was not dealing with chrominance and luminance signals correctly...

also i want to mention that the gxine on the default install of 2011-03 xfce version
is not working on my install (before any upgrade of system) (segt error)

thanks again for your patience

apoG

slh

Post subject:Posted: 18.01.2012, 00:38

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S-video and composite signals are not identical, but close enough that many manufacturers (especially adaptors without active converter) treat them the same. While many devices don't care, others don't accept these as valid input.

apogarte

Post subject:Posted: 24.01.2012, 13:00

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hi slh
after trying a couple of (old) tvs i must admit only real s-video connectors will give a result,
scart input definately don't work with "passive" s-video -> scart adapter.

On the other hand, mx 440 se works fine with aptosid wich is good news !

i'm now starting to look for lirc configuration to use an "old" remote from a pinnacle pctv
card, it was shipped with a serial receiver, it seems lirc.conf for it is available
at http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ but at the moment the receiver is'nt recognised and i am trying to understand
how to fix this, any suggestion will be welcome (/proc/bus/input/devices do not show the receiver) in case
you have any (i am lost beetween several docs and reading aptosid forum did not helped yet)