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Have trouble accepting it when other people aren't in favor of your "vision"?

Here's a question I have but I wasn't quite sure how to word it, so hopefully it makes sense...

Do you have trouble accepting it when other people don't want to follow your "vision"??

Here are some examples:
- A couple weeks ago I was working in a group over an interdisciplinary unit for one of my education classes. We were debating what to do for an introductory and final lesson for the unit and while looking up lessons I had an "A ha!" moment as to what we should do that I was suddenly all excited about and felt it was the perfect way to finish the unit. When I told my group members at first they were all in support of the idea, so I was happy. Then later after getting other stuff done a couple members of the group suggested doing something else instead because they felt it would require the students to do more research so it was decided to do that. However, I was rather disappointed and distressed that the group didn't support my "A ha!" moment idea.

- Whenever my ISFP ex-boyfriend would say that he made a decision "by his gut" it used to aggravate me because I felt that he was still overlooking many details and he was adjusting that "gut" feeling though his Fi values/beliefs instead of taking it objectively.

Anybody else relate?? Its like you are so confident in your own personal intuition that you have trouble accepting other's view of their intuition.

Oh yes, I can relate. At work I usually keep cool because I have learned that it is usually best to let people see things for themselves and that shoving things down their throats tends to be counterproductive. I think the best way for me is to build trust rather than annoy my colleagues so that my ideas are more easily accepted. And I happen to be fallible .

I might be a bit annoying the other way around. I am not too easily convinced to change my opinion about something I have already worked out.

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Here's a question I have but I wasn't quite sure how to word it, so hopefully it makes sense...

Do you have trouble accepting it when other people don't want to follow your "vision"??

Here are some examples:
- A couple weeks ago I was working in a group over an interdisciplinary unit for one of my education classes. We were debating what to do for an introductory and final lesson for the unit and while looking up lessons I had an "A ha!" moment as to what we should do that I was suddenly all excited about and felt it was the perfect way to finish the unit. When I told my group members at first they were all in support of the idea, so I was happy. Then later after getting other stuff done a couple members of the group suggested doing something else instead because they felt it would require the students to do more research so it was decided to do that. However, I was rather disappointed and distressed that the group didn't support my "A ha!" moment idea.

- Whenever my ISFP ex-boyfriend would say that he made a decision "by his gut" it used to aggravate me because I felt that he was still overlooking many details and he was adjusting that "gut" feeling though his Fi values/beliefs instead of taking it objectively.

Anybody else relate?? Its like you are so confident in your own personal intuition that you have trouble accepting other's view of their intuition.

This is the trouble ENTPs have perpetually, every minute of their lives. I am INTP, fortunately as I cannot see it is possible to survive as an ENTP.

Einstein trusted his intuition at least some of the time. I pay attention to my intuition, but it is a political event. Intuition diminishes me.

i don't get affected unless people try to force me or manipulate through negative emotional means such as criticising, manipulation, intimidation etc... but when it gets aggressive, it really immediately winds me up and i think it is the biggest challenge! TO BE ABLE TO FILTER CERTAIN EMOTIONS in social situations AND STILL BE ABLE TO FOCUS / DEVELOP / ACT on the vision iow being able to sustain a healthy ego : i havent quite worked it out yet hehe

i try to go out of my way, challenge myself to desensitise to extraversion in order to have more survival independence but often end up in turmoil again lol!!

See, its much easier for me to let it go if I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the other decision that's made, even though I'm still disappointed that they didn't go with my idea. I always seem to get so excited when I feel that I have a good one so saying "no" to that can a bit heartbreaking, though I always tend to keep that to myself and let it slide to keep the group happy.

However, I have had a few circumstances where my idea not only got shot down, but criticized and told that it's "not possible" or "impractical"... but then the decision that was made without my consent was completely illogical to me. Now that, of course, I had more trouble with.

See, its much easier for me to let it go if I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the other decision that's made, even though I'm still disappointed that they didn't go with my idea. I always seem to get so excited when I feel that I have a good one so saying "no" to that can a bit heartbreaking, though I always tend to keep that to myself and let it slide to keep the group happy.

However, I have had a few circumstances where my idea not only got shot down, but criticized and told that it's "not possible" or "impractical"... but then the decision that was made without my consent was completely illogical to me. Now that, of course, I had more trouble with.

Yeah. I think it's a very humane and understandable reaction, given the context of 'something that's illogical to us'. It's just some express it in a way better than others, in different ways. I myself don't really -get- how to gracefully backing out from this, it's always the good ol' detaching; When I think about it, it's probably related to how following orders or goals I don't find worthy seems to hurt my....I don't know, pride? dignity? Ego? mostly ego. Not a desirable trait.

yeah ! the reason why we get hurt more in the event of discord is because we empathise more wanting it or not, i assume

I can relate too. Even if they don't choose my idea, I still would like other people to get excited about my idea the way I do and recognize its potential. Of course, all the better if my idea becomes reality.

On the surface, I go along with the other idea, and I usually can find something cool about it. But underneath, I still like my idea and feel a bit resentful and disappointed at first.