Well I'm with Karl. I would have paid up to $5000 premium to get a manual transmission. I learned to drive stick at age 14 with a beat 1982 Dodge Charger 2.2 my uncle let us kids drive in the back woods. I've been driving nothing but sticks since, for 26 years until.....this Feb with the Jeep. I married my wife because she, too, drove a manual (these things are important in a relationship).

I don't need electronic traction control. I need a clutch and my left foot and that's plenty of traction control.

For the first time ever. There is no car with a manual in our driveway.

Sad sad sad sad. I know this is a v6 thread and I'm a Hemi GC driver, but MAN would a stick plus the v8 in the JGC be a BLAST.

Driving is boredom (unless you are driving on VT 125 in Ripton, Vermont). Gimme something mechanical to DO at least if I'm stuck in the x and y axis.

Huh?

Hate to say it, but if you want a manual by a sports car not a luxury suv

Huh? Hate to say it, but if you want a manual by a sports car not a luxury suv drugs are bad mkay?

Ya, trying towing a 5000 pound Four Winns boat/trailer with a sports car....I have a boat (hole in water that I feed money into) therefore I do not have a sports car.

I'm lamenting the steady loss of stick transmissions. It's sad. There was a time when most trucks and SUVs came with manuals. There are those of us who would opt for a stick no matter what class/type of vehicle.

Ya, trying towing a 5000 pound Four Winns boat/trailer with a sports car....I have a boat (hole in water that I feed money into) therefore I do not have a sports car.

I'm lamenting the steady loss of stick transmissions. It's sad. There was a time when most trucks and SUVs came with manuals. There are those of us who would opt for a stick no matter what class/type of vehicle.

In a sports car I can see why, it is a more involved and rewarding experience and such. But there is really no real world advantage to manual transmissions anymore. All of the old advantages have since disappeared within the last few years as the manufacturers have figured out how to get more efficiency out of automatics. The 8 speed in my ram already feels like driving a semi, I couldn't imagine driving a 8 speed or higher manual all of the time. Yes I realize that most manuals are 6 speeds but to try and make a manual more efficient you need to give it more gears as well.

If you haven't done so already and are still having sluggishness with ECO mode, definitely get your software updated. Completely fixes the problem and vehicle now drives as it should even in ECO mode. Still won't buy another Jeep after this experience, but at least it will work for the rest of the time I have it on lease. By the way, it took three hours or so for the dealer to update the software so you may want to leave the vehicle rather than wait (like I did).

FIXED Also! I had my Jeep in for the booster recall and they noticed I had an open body control module flash. I was amazed at the difference now with ECO on. I had always turned it off immediately. Now, there is literally no need. I would definitely take the effort to get this update if its bothering you.

FIXED Also! I had my Jeep in for the booster recall and they noticed I had an open body control module flash. I was amazed at the difference now with ECO on. I had always turned it off immediately. Now, there is literally no need. I would definitely take the effort to get this update if its bothering you.

Finally got my 2014 JGC Limited into the shop for PCM PER TSB 18-034-13 drivability software updated TTTCM PER TSB 21-007-13 shift quality. They also applied several updates related to radio communication and A/C quality. It it totally drivable in eco mode now and if you haven't done this yet.. get her in there and get it updated. I may be in love with my Jeep again... for the first time.

Is there a way to figure out what updates are available with regard to software for a specific vehicle? I just purchase a 2015 Altitude a couple weeks ago - I would imagine that there wouldn't be anything available for mine but you never know!

Is there a way to figure out what updates are available with regard to software for a specific vehicle? I just purchase a 2015 Altitude a couple weeks ago - I would imagine that there wouldn't be anything available for mine but you never know!

BTW, I believe the first and only so far TSB for MY15 applies to you! Your lucky day

They changed the hardware on the radio (different head) for MY15 which appears to have created this new issue. They just about had all the gremlins out of the MY14 8.4a/an radios then they go and change the hardware, oh well, progress!

Also, since you have different radio hardware than MY14 you can only apply the MY15 software updates, they are different.

BTW, I believe the first and only so far TSB for MY15 applies to you! Your lucky day

They changed the hardware on the radio (different head) for MY15 which appears to have created this new issue. They just about had all the gremlins out of the MY14 8.4a/an radios then they go and change the hardware, oh well, progress!

Also, since you have different radio hardware than MY14 you can only apply the MY15 software updates, they are different.

Thank you very much! I appreciate your post! And you are correct, it looks like I am 'eligible' for the UCONNECT® 8.4A__MY15_RA3 (14.32.3)_US_ONLY update. I assume all I have to do it bring the Jeep into the dealer and let them know I would like to have this done?

Thank you very much! I appreciate your post! And you are correct, it looks like I am 'eligible' for the UCONNECT® 8.4A__MY15_RA3 (14.32.3)_US_ONLY update. I assume all I have to do it bring the Jeep into the dealer and let them know I would like to have this done?

Damn ECO mode on/off..
Getting crazy in a City traffic stop. it holds the shift all time so I often change to Sport mode. But it is not good to apply sport while taking left at the light. I took a left at the signal whit Sport & it applied the brake itself even though I was pressing the gas pedal(i think traction ctrl engaged). other day it released the shift suddenly and Jeep zipped at the traffic but managed to stop just inches away from hitting the car..
Just noticed the software update for transmission from previous post by 14SummitHemi, gotta go and update at the dealership. Hope something get fixed.

Found this; Have the service dept flash the TCM for service bulletin 21-007-13 (improved driveability in ECO mode)

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Originally Posted by dsinger

I have a 2014 GC as well, and am also surprised that there aren't more complaints about this problem. This is my first Jeep and I am horribly unsatisfied. I've taken it to the dealer and all they say is that they cant "default eco mode off" and all I can do is wait for Chrysler to come out with a software update. I know it is still early, but is there any after-market chips that you can buy to alleviate this problem.

In my opinion they the gear timing in "eco mode off" and "sport mode" is incorrect as well. I think the main problem in these modes is the lag between gears, making a jerky ride. As well, in these modes, especially "sport mode", you have harder downshifts.

Please keep an update if anyone figures out how to solve this problem.