>>9713281please recommend your blackest, smoothest liquid or gel eyeliners. i have a graveyard of 5 or so drugstore liquid eyeliners rn that are either inconsistent in pigment or texture, and it's breaking my bank to keep guessing which brands work best.

>>9713316Not every pigment, additive, etc that's safe to use in the eye area is safe for the lip area. You can do some research to see if what's in the product you are using is, but they are not universally cross compatible

What's your favorite brand for blush? I'm ready to graduate from drug store brands and want to pick up a cute pink-y shade and a peachy shade. Ideally, the less highlight the better because I have crappy skin texture.

I'm a retard when it comes to makeup, can someone point me towards the right brand(s) I should look at for foundation/concealer? My skin is pretty neutral with a very slight orange undertone. Tends to get both slightly dry and/or oily, but usually neither are particularly bad.

>>9713331Western contouring when its obvious reeeeally clashes with the soft, cute aesthetic. I don't think there's really a good way of doing it. Highlighting is fine, but nothing to sharpen your features. Unless you're doing boystyle I guess.

>>9713281Kat von D Eleverlasting Glimmer Veil in TelevatorMakeup Mosters has a lip topper called Chakra but it's out of stock atm, but they're have good stuff when it's available and a good indie brand to support

>>9713331Depends on your substyle. For sweet it's probably a no go, same with softer classic. In general to get a soft look you want to focus more on blush than sculpting your cheekbones. I think for gothic having sharper features is good. You don't want the same soft rosy almost childlike look for gothic that you go for with sweet. OTT gothic especially is quite theatrical.

Full on Kardashian cream contour probably would never work but powder contour and highlight to define the cheekbones etc. is useful to slim your face and add colour and definition. I think it's more about doing what looks best on your face than trying to copy a specific look because what works for some bone structures,eye shapes etc. can look totally wrong on others. Also it depends on the overall vibe of your coord. I don't think there's really a 100% right way to do it every time because lolita as a whole is all about balance. Makeup is a part of that and too harsh contouring can throw the whole coord balance off, the way no makeup at all does.

>>9713331I think it should be very subtle, and you don't want to go for an instagram model look. I think contouring to slightly soften the appearance of the nose or a sharp chin would be okay. I wouldn't do anything extreme though.

I literally spent like thirty minutes at Sephora with someone trying to color match my foundation, only to have the chick pull the same like three shades that were too pale or too yellow. I wanted to upgrade my makeup but I guess I’ll be sticking to my cheap ass Maybeline Fit Me. But hey I like it and it’s like ten bucks soooo

>>9713672How I'd recommend getting foundation matches is doing some research on ones that are supposed to be similar to what you match then getting free samples from Sephora and taking them home to try. Do your best to match at store, waiting for them to potentially oxidize, then get the small sample tubs that are good for 1-3 wears and take them home to try full face. Of course try to make sure it's a makeup type you like, matte or skin-like or whatever.

Doing the searching yourself tends to take out the incorrect assumptions of the workers in my experience. They always grabbed makeup far too dark for me or of the very wrong undertone. People tend to only know their skintone unless they're more experienced working with a variety of people I'm guessing.

Maybe find a Youtuber who is close to your skin color / skin type and see what they recommend. For example I looked at a lot of Thataylaa's videos and based on the foundations I tried I figured out she was a bit darker than me but of a similar neutral undertone. Any time a foundation was too pale for her it might work for me, and although we had different skin types I could generally figure out how they'd work on me.

Took me about two years to finally settle on a makeup I really like after lots of experimenting, was actually something I tried last year and I came back to after realizing I really did like it in the end if I just mixed in some white and used a concealer I started using earlier this year. Since it sounds like you're a normal skintone you might either be overwhelmed by choices or get a good result very quickly, there's lots of foundations I hear amazing things about that I don't even try because the lightest shade is waaay too dark.

You're just at the beginning of the foundation search, you'll get your dream foundation someday!

(Sorry for the mini-essay from this pale anon, I just know the frustration of searching endlessly for foundation and thought I'd offer my two cents.)

>>9713691I really like BH cosmetics, for the price. Not everything they sell is vegan/CF, but every item is clearly labeled on the page (plus if the items are multi-use / eye AND lip safe or not). If the entire company not being CF is a dealbreaker tho, avoid.

>They also still have their cyber monday sales going on til the end of today WST

>>9713329Just to add my experience, mine was absolute shit. It was super watery. no matter how much I shook it, it would never get any darker than light grey. It was also super dry and dragged my eyelids. In the end I just threw it away, never buying that shit again.

>>9714403I'm a huge CF fag and I'm not sure what that anon is talking about because BH is Leaping Bunny certified and doesn't sell in China. They clearly label their vegan products as well.

Stila pulled out of China and regained their CF status, plus they aren't owned by a non-CF corporation like Loreal or Estee Lauder either. Their foundation is supposed to be nice, I've been thinking about trying it out myself.

>>9713281Don't feel like checking the colors right now but the Urban Decay Vice special effects lip toppers are really nice. I have a burgundy glitter one and the staying power is really fantastic. As for gloss, I'm a fan of Buxom's.

>>9713281FierceMagenta on EtsyThey have a ton of different glitter lip glosses. If you can't decide do one of their sample packs. I did one of 2 sticks and 3 glosses and You get lipsticks about the size of those thin white chap sticks that are vanilla or cherry flavored, and the glosses come in a twist top jar about half the size of a lush lip scrub.

>>9713672That's unfortunate, my sephora girl matched my shade exactly but I'm pretty sure she was a color specialist. I think most if not all Sephora girls are "trained" to color match but they also have the girls who get extra training in makeup (or "color"). You can also book a free 15 minute consultation for a color specialist to color match and apply your foundation for you. No pressure to buy, just explain that you need to see how it wears throughout the day.

You can also try getting color matched at MAC and use foundation matrixes online to find your shade in other brands.

>>9713672I got stuck with a shitty two faced foundation that made me look like a yellow fucking alien. I had people talk shit to my face about it directly in front of me when I used it. Never use sephora for foundation matching. Ask them to match you to a specific brand you know isn't totally retarded.

>>9713305Usually this shit is stupid as hell, but I tried Nars liquid blush as eyeshadow after reading this and I really really loved it. It's subtle but looks amazing, and it stayed put great on my oily lids with no primer or anything. Obviously it's not going to work with every brand but if you have a liquid blush that's free of ingredients that are bad for eye skin then it can make a gorgeous effect. Nars also makes a Multiple stick that's meant to serve as color for pretty much any part of the face, so theirs might be the most versatile; too bad I can't afford their shit hahahaha (the blush I had was a sample).

>>9714995Red dyes are among some of the most notorious culprits for eye irritation. So while its great that your liquid blush worked as eyeshadow, it is could still cause problems for someone else. It is better to use products as intended to avoid problems with irritation or cross contamination.

>>9713306I have tried Stila, love it!! But I finish it so fast... I've been trying other liquid eyeliners but none as good as stila. Too Faced makes a really good one that replaced stila for a while!

I also have a "cheap day makeup" which is the makeup I wear when I don't have work/anywhere important to be, and for those days I use Elf's liquid eyeliner. The only downside, it smudges easily!! But for a couple bucks, not so bad!!

>>9715734Can't say about what quality they are, because I have never bought any, but I can predict what quality they might be at these prices. Keep in mind that they still have to make profit.Their sources are most likely two: wholesale and batches of cosmetics that couldn't be sold under the brand they have been made for (e.g. bad quality, wrong proportions of ingredients, short expiration date, factory producing after hours using leftover, expired, or lower(ed) quality material, etc.). For wholesale they would have to buy really big batches, and not of the greatest quality. For the rest, they are just too low quality for normal sale.I'm a newbie, and am also overwhelmed by the prices in brand stores, but I for sure wouldn't buy anything from Shop Miss A, even if the prices might be tempting.If you really want to try them out, I would avoid anything that goes on or near your lips and eyes.And definitely do not buy non-cosmetics products from them, like brushes or jewellery. You never know how fucked up they have to be to be this cheap. I have ran into a review of a brush infested with cockroach eggs. Regarding jewellery, it might contain dangerous metals, and they are open about it containing nickel.

I would rather buy cosmetics from China. They are more than $1, but it shows how much it has to cost to produce and export such a product. If they were produced in US, they would have to be much more expensive.

>>9715734I've never had a problem with them, especially with their own line they make. Just do test swatches to see if it bugs your skin. There is pretty good pigment on them and they list all the ingredients on the items.Their brushes are fine I've never had a problem with them, I got the elf ones they had though. The nail polishes are trash though.

>>9715801Thanks for the reply. I'm so grossed out by the brush infested with bug eggs, do you still have a link for the review per chance? I'm curious.Luckily I only ordered an highlighter and some lip gloss with good reviews, but now I'm scared to try out the gloss. >>9715814Thanks! I'll do test swatches just in case, better safe than sorry.

>>9716065Found it here https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/shopmissa.com#141It was really probably the only one that was so horrible. Most of them are about extremely long shipping times, items not being delivered, orders being incorrect or items broken.They will also not refund shipping fees, on which they seem to make quite a bunch of money. And since shipping is so expensive, they subconsciously make you order a lot of stuff, at which point you might be better off spending these $30 or $50 on good quality brand products, instead of a bunch of crap.

I don't think you should be worried about the products you have bought, just test them as >>9715814 recommends, and check the label, if it's not expired or something.

For jewellery, it can leave green stains on skin if it contains copper, and black ones for sterling silver. Mentioning that, since one of reviews complains about that. Regarding nickel, it can cause allergic reaction for some people.

Hey gulls. I have a super oily t zone and despite using primer and setting powder and setting spray, my makeup will be flawless all day except for on the sides of my nose and the center of my forehead. I have a good skincare routine that helps my acne, but I'm hesitant to incorporate anymore drying/acidic products to my routine since other than my t zone, the rest of my skin is fine. Help?

>>9719297I think that's the color I bought (the etsy shop one) and it looks good with 1 layer, but their photo is about 4 layers worth of the gloss. Also you'll have to re-apply about ever hour with the gloss to keep that amount of glitter.

>>9720047Actually you can. It's called "eyelash fix" though, but it's the same glue. I have both and compared the tiny tube to the big one; it's the same thing. Except I prefer the brush applicatorPs. Sorry for my English, I'm esl-chan lol

Look up Korean tutorials. They usually just define the nose slightly with a very soft, neutral to cool brown, and the jawline. I used to do the same, then got lazy and just highlight and blush my face now. RIP all my expensive contour palettes.

ugh, I'm having the hardest time figuring out the best way to apply highlighter or to contour (for the sake of altering the look of) my nose shape. It's pretty dang aquiline, so a lot of tutorials that talk about these things tend not to work with my nose. Youtube vids I've looked up have people with wider aquiline noses that are less, hooked than mine (or aren't as extreme as mine is) and so end up not really being helpful...

>>9726112I agree but I love the undertone options for their foundations since I pull a cool yellow and most yellow foundations pull too warm for me. I usually mix the ordinary full coverage foundation (with golden undertones) with a bb creams that pulls too pink/gray for me (like the missha one). It helps the foundation lay better and fixes the coloring of the bb cream for me. Another one I mix it with is a sample of the makeup forever water blend foundation I got in a sephora play box that was the wrong undertone for me.

>>9718775Blotting papers, fellow oil slick. Even in the dead of dry dry winter, with my hands cracking after every hand-wash, my nose and forehead are fucking oily by 11 AM.

Honestly, I have yet to find a blotting paper better than Clean & Clear (don't bother with the off-brand versions, they suck trust me). However, it is fairly expensive especially if you're using 2 a day like I do.

My favorite alternative is the black Gatsby blotting sheets that come in the white package. I can get them at a local Japanese market but I know they're available on Amazon. A few bucks cheaper than Clean & Clear and you get 70 sheets instead of 30. Plus the sheets are bigger. They're still not AS good as C&C but they damn well do the job.

>finally get a lighted vanity mirror>flick it on, closely examine face>the fucking horrorMy foundation looks so... splotchy and patchy? I don't know if I should start with shopping for new makeup or try to revamp my skincare routine.

I feel kinda weird for asking but I want to try the “living doll” style and I want to make my makeup more dolly like (a cross between sweet and barbie type makeup). Does anyone kno any good tutorials for doll-like makeup, even if it’s not explicitly stated for doll-like makeup?

>>9732481Use a primer, then apply your foundation, then buff in your foundation with a big kabuki brush. Thinner-consistency foundations are easier to spread out across your face.

What's everyone's favourite sheer lipsticks? I'm not looking for a lip balm, but specifically a sheer peachy mauve lipstick. The real one used in the movie my character is from is 30 quid and fuck that

>>9733266I’ve found Yves Saint Laurent’s lipsticks to be sheer. Something a little cheaper is Maybeline’s baby lips stuff, I believe they recently came out with some colored lipsticks/balms for their baby lips line and they look good.

>>9733313Brush tip has fine bristles (see: KVD tattoo liner). Felt tip is more like a marker. Brush tip is less likely to clog up from what I’ve heard but I’ve used both types and I seem to go through them pretty quickly. I personally prefer gel in a pot.

>>9734106You can start here:https://www.temptalia.com/foundation-matrix/scratchIt will help you find color names. For fair skin it will usually be ivory. From ELF "light ivory" or "porcelain" might work for you.If you want to try out different foundations, check other places selling cosmetics, they are likely to have samples you can test in the store, e.g. in Rossmann.

What should I do with a highligher thats too dark for me? I was gifted a topshop highlighter in the shade 'horizon' and I'm very pale, The highlight is beautiful and I honestly love it but I'm afraid it'll just look like big gold/brown smudges on my face

should I just wear it anyway and blend like mad while hoping for the best?

>>9713364Fenty Beauty, NARS, and MAC foundations work really well and have pretty good ranges. NARS and MAC have various types of foundations that can work with your skin. Fenty does apply matte though.

>>9713334NARS, Too Faced, and tarte blushes have never let me down. They have pretty good pink colors.

>>9713672Go back to Sephora another day and ask another person. I've had to do that before and the second opinion got me my perfect shade range. You may want to check out MAC as well. I find that they're usually a little more spot on than Sephora when matching. Also, experiment with drugstore foundations that won't cost you much. For example, I started out with one of the cushion foundations and that gave me a sense of whether I'm fair, light ,etc. This kind of info can also help the person who is matching you to give you a closer match. Good luck anon, I promise you'll find your perfect shade. It's out there!

>>9734106ELF's foundations are much better these days since they've worked out some of the kinks in their formula. They're pretty cheap compared to other drugstore brands (about $6 where I live). Just give it a try.

Hey gulls I need your help, I'm not new to J-fashion but am definitely a beauty newfag and am trying to finally start incorporating some makeup into my cords, since I realized I'm probably a major ita without makeup after taking a closer look at my skin via photos and videos realizing how horrid it looks.

Not to mention the fact that due to my parents having me late thanks to my dad's infertility caused by his Chrons disease, his sperm and my mom's eggs got old and I ended up being born with literal autism. (though its pretty mild, I'm high functioning and not like an actual tard or anything)

Unfortunately it was also thanks to that autism that I was "blessed" with a rather unfortunate looking, asymmetrical face. (Yes, facial dysmorphia is in fact a thing that affects those on the spectrum, google it.)so makeup I'm quickly discovering, is more important than anything for my coords!

Here's what I look like cause I need help figuring out my shading and skintone to know which foundations and colors will agree with my skin type while still suiting my style. For refrences sake the J-fashions I dress in are: Lolita both Sweet (regular and OTT) Classic-Sweet, Hime-Gyaru/Hime-Kaji, Fairy-Kei/Yumekawaii/Moehara and Otome.

My beauty idols are Misako, Princess Peachie, Venus Angelic and Kimura U and I've started to watch all their makeup tutorials on YouTube in an attempts to emulate their styles. I'm hoping to find out through this thread the idenfication of the specific products they use in those tutorials and whether those products will fit my skin. The makeup style I'm trying to go for to start out is a sweet and soft, natural dolly-type style. I don't want anything too overpowering or wild or for my makeup to look overdone or caked on. Just want my face to look cute and sweet while hiding all my blemishes and ALSO adding symmetry to my face.

So yeah... Product identification and recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

>>9735033>>9735026Okay that's it: Since my gif maker and video converter doesn't want to cooperate I just uploaded the video to youtube, and with that, fuck this shitty ass website and its outdated tech, can't even handle an direct short, 15 second .mov upload baka...

But whatever, now that I've got myself in motion, I'll still post a few more photos of myself particularly in front of the mirror (even though I know the mirror isn't as accurate) to give you the best lighting on my skin and face, just remember: The most accurate IRL look of me is video where it shows 3-dimensional movement, not the regular photos or photos taken with a mirror.

>>9735044Last one, think that should be good enough. I'll post some more if anons are still finding it hard to determining my skin type, undertones and face shape.

Also here are the exact tutorials I was hoping to take inspiration from and use the products from: Will the products featured in these videos (What are their names anyways?) be suited to my skintype? Would also like advice on contouring and whether I should do it or not considering all the J-fashion styles I wear call for a natural and sweet look... but my facial flaws definitely still need to be hidden I'd say, any way to do so while still keeping to the style in these tutorials? Also should I go with makeup that leaves a matte or dewy finish?

>>9735044>>9735069This isn't /soc/, you are ugly as sin, and it's not our job to give you specific make-up advice.You need make-up to not look as ugly, and it's something the beauty store staff can help you with. You can't get there without trying and experimenting.Also, everyone has asymmetric face, you autist.

>>9736038I’m aerially curious to see what people say, because I’ve basically given up on finding jfashion friendly eye palettes from westerners brands. I like western formulas much better, but the color trends are so astronomically different that I use like 3 colors in whatever palette I buy. I’m just going to buy singles from MAC I think and put together my own based on tutorials I like in glb/kera

>>9736038What kind of colors do you like? Warm, neutral basics, or cool? Do you wear eyeshadow a lot or less so? Is portability of the palette a concern to you or would your rather just go big for variety?

I only wear eyeshadow on days I don't have work so I don't need much and wear warm looks 99% of the time plus I wanted it to not be huge for easy travel, so after I did a lot of research I bought Modern Renaissance, which is indeed very nice. The perfect palette for me. When I want some more pinky shades, since this palette has like none, I just use some Etude House singles or blush (the Tarte Blush Bazaar is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me, I love it). I almost bought Violet Voss's Holy Grail which is similar but bigger with more shades. The makeup Youtubers I watch say that the Jacyln Hill Morphe palette is really really good if you want some more variety / something bigger.

>>9736038For a simple "natural" look that works for casual styles, I use Dollywink's 01 Brown. Four shades, really compact and easy to carry for touchups.

For everything else, I use theBalm's Nude Tude. It's got a great highlight, both dark brown and black liner shades, and a brown that can double as a brow shade. I can get a more dramatic day look, a night look, and I use the burgundy shade a lot for gothic styles.

>>9736331Sweet and classic. Most palettes can work fine for gothic, and I’d imagine if I had a darker skin tone they could work for sweet/classic looks. But I look at something like ABH’s Modern Renaissance and know that I might use the dark shades as a liner and that’s really it? And that’s half the palette. The heavy contouring that’s popular in the west just isn’t that popular in Jfashion looks unless is punk or gothic or some gyaru.

Not to mention, there’s really not a lot of value on buying more than one or two palettes since you’ll likely be getting dupes of a million neutrals, three new shades you like and three shades you’ll never use. Idk, I think I’m just over palettes.

>>9726284im going to second and clarify revlon skinny liner. I love the navy and mahogany. I love how the "brush" is like two little hairs so you can do really sharp/tiny lines. Its lasted me a really long time and have had no issues.

However i havent used the black that often especially in comparison with other black eye liners because i usually throw them away. but i can say that its definitely not a flat matt black.

>>9713672you can also use findation to find similar/same shades of the fit me you already use. especially if youve found other shades of foundations that match but maybe you didnt like the texture. It works with concelears and BB creams too. It helped me get a better idea to explore more drug store options and higher end. But i still prefer my Fit me....

For korean products amazon is usually more expensive, in the EU at the very least. For americans toly moly stores are way better to visit in stores because they usually give out a bunch of freebies based on how much you spend. (NY, NJ, HI, TX, CA) plus i see they often have sales more often than amazon. CVS also now carries a few K beauty brands such as holikaholika, although some are rebranded with another name, and with coupons/sales they can be cheaper than amazon.

I know douglas (EU friends) now sells toly moly and another korean brand or two and ive been seening more k beauty at TK Maxx as well but they seem to be more than amazon.

>>9736038Naked basics is the only pallet i use with lolita consistently with a few differernt colorpop single shadows for when i need wine, navy or another color.Ive tried mini pastel pallets but they look terrible on my skin.

>>9736505I'm getting the Chocolate Bonbons palette in hopes that it works out for sweet and classic, but you're right about the shade selections. You can maybe look into building a custom one from a brand whose formula you like?

>>9735026>Not to mention the fact that due to my parents having me late thanks to my dad's infertility caused by his Chrons disease, his sperm and my mom's eggs got old and I ended up being born with literal autism.

I'm sorry but this made me lol. You seem cool anon. One of the dopest dudes I knew in college was asperger as fuck and I was always stoked when we ended up in the same class.

Just some basics:

- Primer foundation is essential for smoothing poors and evening skintone. I like the Revlon photo-ready perfecting primer. Works on all skin tones but they also make a skin-tone evening one that I think is a bit darker than the "perfecting primer"- Always use eyeshadow primer. Again the Revlon photo-ready is my favorite.- To find a powder, pick the one that is closest to the underside of your wrist.- Blushes that contain several colors that you're meant to blend together are the easiest to use- Eyeliner pens (not pencils or gel) are the easiest to use IMO but you're still gonna need to practice a fuck ton to get your lines even and clean- Get a blending blush if you plan on wearing several eyeshadow colors. Don't assume you can just use any old brush to blend. GET A BLENDING BRUSH.

>>9736634I only did that because I'm like an ultra noob to makeup and need help first determining my skin type and shade, plus I had a lot of questions. Also felt I should post a lot of images of my face in order to get the most accurate determination of my skin type as well as the problem areas my makeup should cover while still matching the general look of the cords I wear.

>>9736934Thanks anon! Glad there's still some gulls left on /cgl/ with salt out of their vag that are willing to help instead of just making snarky comments, you're cool too.

I'm guessing though judging by the lack of answers to my most pertinent question as well as your advice, its impossible to really determine my exact skin type and tone through just photos and video huh? I'll really have to go to MAC to get my typing done? (There's none really in my area that are open late enough for when I manage to get out of the house)

What about specific area problems that my face has that I should focus on during my application of makeup? Could that be determined through just a video and some photos and if so will I need to contour (or highlight?) despite the styles I dress in sort of discouraging it?

Any Japanese or Korean blushes, eyeliner pens and eyeshadows you use and would recommend or would Western makeup products work just with J-fashion? What styles do you dress in by the way?

That blending brush is a huge help for advice and will definitely be one of the first products I pick up before buying any of the makeup itself so thanks for that!

>>9737529No need for the snarky comment back though. It's an image board, by spamming it you've taken up space for actual photos that are of some use.

Now for some advice. I'd have a look at beauty gurus on youtube for some basics first.

I'd also go to a few places rather than just Mac as they have a tendancy of being too dark in their shade choices.

Western products work just as well. It depends on what style you're focused on but basic brown eyeshadows work for most.

I would recommend TonyMoly and Etude House for their makeup.

I use a lot of western brands like Too Faced, that work really well in the styles I wear. I tend to wear Sweet Lolita the most but I like Fairy Kei and Gyaru too.

Contouring isn't a must but can help soften the face. I love to highlight myself but wouldn't see it as a must.

I love eyeshadows so I have quite a few brushes. A blending one is a must but I would also say getting a flat one too for patting shimmers or brightening up the inner corner of your eye is a must for me.

I suppose I should take that to mean that from looking at my photos and video you've determined my skin tone to be light-fair correct? That would mean only cool colors would look good on me and not warm right? Unless you mean don't go for super dark shades cause of the coords I do...?

>Contouring isn't a must

Yeah, I've read from lots of Lolita makeup advice that Contouring doesn't really suit the style. (or similar J-fashions that I wear such as Fairy-Kei and Hime-Gyaru) I thought though my case would be an exception because I have a particularly unfortunate face so I would need Contouring to get it to look more symmetrical... Does Contouring always mean a heavy, Instagram, look? Is the only way to make your face look soft while Contouring would be to only do a little? Is there a way to still make it look soft and "Lolita-appropriate" whilst being heavy enough to hide face asymmetry and flaws?

Definitely getting that flat brush too! Would you say for makeup its best to just have two brushes? A blending one and a flat one or do I need even more? (I don't plan on ever wearing heavy, caked-on, Instagram type makeup; only makeup to match my coords and to hide my facial flaws)

>>9737589Then get better. We're not here to hand hold you. Also, if you're wondering what makes that all look like a troll/vendetta, you need to think long and hard about what kind of person would actually post such unflattering photos of themselves with that fucking description on 4chan. Since you're supposedly not a troll or a vendetta, you must just be retarded.

>>9737595Not retarded just have no shame when its fucking 4chan with a bunch of anons I'll likely never see (I'm a lonelita.) kek. I still felt the need to justify how I got such an unfortunate looking face since gulls sometimes won't let up until you just explain and get that elephant in the room out of the way.

>Unflattering

Considering I really DO look like that without any makeup on as I've explained, I fail to see how any photos taken of me COULD be flattering. Didn't care enough though cause I just want my skin shade and skin type determined so that I can finally start buying shit.

TL;DR: I expected to get shit on for my pics but didn't care cause I'm desperate to getgud.

Yeah only you can know really, photos and someone's computer settings can change your actual skin tone. I've never been matched for foundation, I just use primer and powder.

>What about specific area problems that my face has that I should focus on during my application of makeup? Could that be determined through just a video and some photos and if so will I need to contour (or highlight?) despite the styles I dress in sort of discouraging it?

T.b.h. I find contouring and highlighting a pain in the add and I don't bother. Regarding problem areas: if you have an oily t-zone use a blotting powder as your final makeup step and carry blotting papers with you.

>Any Japanese or Korean blushes, eyeliner pens and eyeshadows you use and would recommend

I use too-faced eye shadow. The only Asian brands I use are dollywink eyeliner pen, and holika holika eyeshadow. Actually I have a few The Face Shop eyshadows as well that are very velvety and soft.

>>9713329Adding my experience. At first this eyeliner was a dream but after a while the brush tip would not deposit product and it would get clogged up so easily. I usually run the tip under water, get all the water off the tip, then it would start working again.

It's still a good eyeliner but beware of the brush tip clogging. Probably best to wipe it off after every use.

>>9713306Unironically, if you're in the UK the poundland liquid eyeliners eyeliners are the best I've ever tried, they have a very fine brush tip that you can get a sharp point with and they're super cheap.

I'm not just saying that because I'm cheap either I wouldn't skimp put on things like foundation or eyeshadow but definitely try it for eyeliner.

>>9737592No I meant their shades are often too dark so getting matched there first might not really tell you accurately your shade. I had a friend matched recently and they gave her the wrong shade to work from. I wouldn't say you're light or fair as I am and you're darker than me. I'd say some sort of medium tone but I'd go get that checked from somewhere like Sephora.

I would use a bit of contouring for your fave shape to make it softer. The western tutorials are ones that won't always work as they try to make the facial features sharper, though I'm sure there are tutorials online to get a more heart shaped face or rounder face that would work for you.

I don't wear crazy heavy makeup but I own a lot of brushes.

For starting off I would get at least 2 or 3 eyeshadow brushes. A blending one and a flat one at the very least. I like to have at least two blending brushes just to help with changing up with colours as I'm doing my eyeshadow. Get at least the blending and flat one for starting out.

For the rest of your face I would recommend either a brush or a sponge depending on your skin type and what finish you want. I really like using a beauty blender sponge and you can get cheaper versions that are good too. That will be for your foundation. I prefer using my finger for some of my concealer.

Then a good blush and powder brush. If you're going to contour you can get one for that too. Same with highlighter.

With the sales on you should be able to get a set of brushes cheap if you have a look online or in store. I use Real Techniques mostly myself. Morphe are quite good too.

And like I said above check out youtube for more of the basics! It's a great resource.

I've always suffered from chapped lips. I use Lush lip scrub in the shower and pair Smith's Rosebud Salve with some Clinique lip stain to get color and moisture at once. My problem with that is I need something to help moisturize throughout the day. Blistex makes the skin on my lips ball up and Burt's Bees doesn't do much. The only reason why I don't carry my lip salve with me is because it doesn't fit in my lipstick holder I have on my keys. I'm tempted to just buy multiple tubes and keeping them in different places. My water intake has improved and I'll drink numerous bottles of water in one sitting but it's very inconsistent throughout the day.

I also want to journey into lipstick. I have a light lip liner from Ulta but it doesn't do much. My understanding is lip liner prevents the lipstick from feathering out but the ones I have don't feather out anyway. I have an Urban Decay Vice palette and some Clinique tubes.

Pic related is what I'm working with. Small upper lip with somewhat more of a bottom lip.

Any tips to lighten a foundation without having to buy another bottle of lighter foundation? I moved to a colder climate and noticed that my foundation would oxidize 1 or 2 shades darker throughout the day and would make my face look dark orange.

>>9739060I'm someone who has always had garbage luck with oxidation, literally every foundation I've ever tried gets darker on me. My tips are either start buying a lighter shade of the same foundation you like so it darkens to your skin tone (test it at a Sephora/Ulta if you can of course, and if you can't and it fails at least you could mix that lighter shade into your current one). It might look wrong to you that you're putting on something that's a bit too light but then it oxidizes so you're fine. Or just get used to mixing it with a lighter foundation/a white if you're super pale. I recommend the L.A. Girl white if that's the case, it's done very well for me and is really affordable. If you're wanting something less powerful than that Thataylaa has a video on foundation lighteners/whiteners - been a while since I watched but I feel like there were some that were less effective and it would give you a broad amount of options to look at.

I have super fucking hooded and droopy eyes and I have no idea what to do to make my eyeliner not look like shit. Should I use tape for when I cosplay?? I'm a noob at makeup but I keep trying to practice and I've had other cosplay friends try to do my eyeliner for me too and it always makes me look even worse somehow.

>>9739034I actually have some jars left over from the Lush scrubs that'd probably work. Thanks for the suggestion!

>>9739170>lanolinI'm going to look for that! That seems the most hydrating. Do you do any lip treatments? I use masks on my face weekly but never found anything for my lips. And why discontinue the B12 and sodium lauryl sulfate? Any research behind it?

>>9737529You don't have to be snarky. You could've just posted one or two images to give people the idea. No, nobody can determine your skin tone through a monitor. You'll have to match yourself through trial and error or get professionally matched. Please, remember that most stores, whether Sephora or Wal*Mart, take returns on makeup without the receipt. Tedious, yes, but if you don't have access to a makeup counter, you'll just have to match through trial and error. Find one you think works, look at it under incandescent, fluorescent, and natural light. If it looks off, take it back and try again. Some people, like me, have to combine two types to get a color match. Also, you don't need foundation if you don't want to wear it. Primers can help with setting shadows, and many girls find concealer with maybe a bit of powder enough to hide problem areas. For some reason, Maybelline's Instant Age Rewind Eraser/Concealer gets a lot of fans. I didn't like it personally, but you may so give that one a try.

Makeup is makeup. Asians products were really popular largely because of the BB and CC cremes which weren't widely available in Western lines. Also, some may find the tone in Asian products match better then Western products if their tone calls for it.

Also, picture related. Don't take pictures from that angle. It makes anyone look bad. Experiment with 3/4th profile or side profile. Avoid tucking your chin in. I don't like contouring, but the only place I could really see you could use it is maybe to bring definition to your cheeks and to the jaw line. You don't need contouring if you are just starting out. Liquid eyeliners are great as they don't smear as much throughout the day on your eye shape. You'll want to keep your eyeliner as close to the waterline as possible. You've got ample room to work underneath the eye, but too much eye makeup on top and your eyes will look heavy.

Being honest, >>9735056 is the best image you took outside the quirky lip expression.

>>9738950are you using the rosebud salve thats already in the tube or the tin? They sell the tube at sephora although im sure there are cheaper ways to get it. Did you use the blistex chapstic or the white intensive cream?How often are you using the lip scrub? If youre using it more than 2-3 times a week you might be over exfoliating your lips.

My lip splits in the middle and bleeds often when its cold outside. Blistex intensive repair seems to help me a bit but i dont think its the god sent product a lot of people brag about. I use my rosebud salve in a tube mostly at home, nivea chapstick on the go and when it gets bad i use bepanthen. Here its used for all wounds and cuts and they technically make a lip care version but i use the original one. In the US its sometimes only marketed as baby diaper cream and nipple cream though... i think the american version is called "bepanthen first aid, wound cream". A tiny dab goes a long way.

As for lipsticks, i would avoid most matts for now even if they claim to be hydrating or not drying. NYX lingerie is the worst, ime . Ive had good results with lipstains that way you can apply lipcare without losing the color.

>>9739284>are you using the rosebud salve thats already in the tube or tin?Tube currently. I used the tin in the past but didn't like how I had to use my fingers. I've purchased them from Ulta and Walgreens.

>Did you use the blistex chapstic or the white intensive cream?The regular chapstick in the blue/green tube. It's the only thing my aunt uses so I thought I'd give it a shot.

>How often are you using the lip scrub?It varies. I'll use it for a few days in a row then forget about it until I'm peeling off lip skin with my teeth again. I never considered the possibility of over exfoliating. I just liked how smooth my lips were after the scrub.

>bepanthen It has some really good reviews on Makeup Alley for the skin and lips so I'll have to look for it!

>I would avoid most matts for nowOh definitely. I don't think they would look good with my lip shape anyway. I like stains because it's just a hint of color and easy to apply.

>>9739248I just sometimes exfoliate with either an exfoliating glove or a toothbrush I use exclusively for exfoliating my lips. I also sometimes put my cocoa butter Vaseline on top of the Lanolin to seal it in, especially at night. Vaseline is great at holding in moisture and cocoa butter helps with healing.

SLS is drying. There’s other versions of it that aren’t drying, like Sodium Lauryl Sulfacetate, but I haven’t seen them in any product. So when you’re brushing your teeth, it gets on your lips and dries them out. Switching to sensidyne didn’t help me and the sensidyne whitening toothpaste sucks.

If you’re allergic to Cobalt, it can cause dry lips. Cobalt is found in vitamin B12 preparations. I’m not sure if it’s in all preparations but you’ll know if it contains it if you read the ingredient list because it’ll say something abou Cobalt. I don’t think I’m allergic to it because if I consume something I’m allergic to, I usually break out in hives.

I might look into the rose salve. I know bath and body works used to sell one.

>>9739560Tundra anon here. I apply a heaping helping of raw unrefined shae butter to my lips before bed. Helps keep then smooth throughout the following day. I carry mavala chapstick with me in my purse but rarely have to use it thanks to the shae butter.

Shae butter also stopped my hands from peeling and cracking when I moved to this godforsaken place. Just make sure you get the big tub of solid unrefined shae butter and not some lotion formula.

>>9739606I think Bath and Body Works discontinued the CO Bigelow line. I used to use that before there were Sephora stores in my area so now I swear by the Smith's original. I've seen the Smith's in F21 and Ulta too.

Well, speaking about bug eggs in makeup. Don't buy beautyblenders from wish, ali, ebay and whatever comes direct from China. Read a review from someone who saw a mistery flying bugs on her beautyblender. Broke the blender open and saw a shit tone off eggs.

>>9739669I’ve seen CO Bigelow stuff at BB works recently. Though, the last BB works I went into (about a week ago) only had the Mentha lip balm and not a single other lip product. Interestingly, I haven’t ever seen that particular lip balm in any other BB works store. Good to know about the Sephora lip salve though.

>>9739687I’m horrified, I would have kms knowing I was rubbing bug eggs all over my face. You would have been better off rubbing a kitchen sponge all over your face.

Ive recently realized how much is struggle to get all my eyelashes in my curler,aftering replacing my old one. Is this an issue of having a cheap eye lash curler or is it possibly because i have downturned or almond eyes and i brought a different brand? (i think one is more downturned and one is more almond)

>>9713691I was going to recommend Clinique, as I was color-matched to a really pretty, pale shade of theirs that works very well for my skin tone. BUT, they are not cruelty-free, which I found out after-the-fact :/ not sure if I am going to get them after that.

Just a general question for the j-fashion peeps, do you match your eyeshadow to your coord, pick up accent colours from your dress, or do you just go with your usual colours and don't match them to your coord?

I can't figure out if it's a faux pas or not to totally match eyeshadow to my clothes, if I wear Moitie blue gothic with blue/black eyeshadow it seems a little too matchy? Maybe? Whereas with my sweet coords I always default to pink eyeshadow no matter what colour dress I'm wearing, it's getting kinda boring. Looking to hear how other gulls choose their eyeshadow for a little inspiration.

>>9741572I swatched it once and thought it looked green, but I have really pale skin so it might just have shown up well on me. I don’t like those colors though, because I’m so pale I prefer warmer colors to liven up my face.

>>9741576You could always try making your own green highlighter. Mix green shadow with a white highlighter powder and then press it into a pan.

>>9741573I often match lips to coord for gothic then stick with a plain smokey eye, occasionally with a hint of that same colour. For classic I tend to just go with neutral "natural" makeup, and for sweet I tend to choose a highlight and eyeshadow to match whatever pastel I'm wearing (generally lavender or pink)

>>9742240>put a line of lip tint in inner lips>use a small stiff brush (I use a concealer brush) to spread the tint out>key is to not touch the tint in the inner most part of your lip, leave some untouched so that it stays darker>only spread out the tint to about 2/3rds of your lip>use sheer gloss or vaseline on top>optional: use concealer on the outer corners of your lips and/or around your lips

The gloss/vaseline will help it look less crusty (also exfoliate your lips before lip color application). I find that the control you have with a brush with prevent the coloring spreading compared to if you use your fingers. Korean tints have pretty good staying power to help with fading problems.

>>9742240also if your tint is watery then don't use the wand to apply it, instead use a q-tip! like run the wand over the q-tip and soak it in the tint and then use that to apply it onto your lips. and moisturize/exfoliate like the other anon said. also, applying a base color (like a light nude) or concealer does even out the tone and may help make it 'cleaner'. i usually put on a light layer of foundation on my lips when i apply foundation but also put on etude house's BE109 mlbb nude lipstick as a base layer before applying any lacquer/tint/lip color.

for gel-type tints, i found that if you follow the natural lines/creases on your lips (vertical) and then spread it with your fingertips it looks nice!

>>9738605>>9739266Hey you two (and everyone else) this is pic-anon again, thanks for all the advice last week! This week the first thing I did was haul my lazy ass out of the house early and into the local Sephora at the mall and apparently they have this amazing new machine installed that can scan people's skin types and shading, so I found out this pertinent information about myself.

My face shape is oval.My skin-tone is 5Y05 which I think is the MAC equivalent of NC20? 5Y means I am VERY yellow-undertoned while the 05 indicates that I'm fair-skinned.My skin-type is Sensitive Normal skin, apparently the red spots on my face ISN'T acne but just blemishes.The MUA that scanned me also said I look best in Dusty Rose colors.

Now that I have all this clarifying info what do my skin stats say about the makeup I should use for my coords? (which are always in pastel vomit realm ala OTT Sweet/Sweet Lolita/Fairy-Kei/Yumekawaii/Hime-Gyaru)

>>9742463>>9742452Thanks so much, you guys! Ill give these techniques a try. I think I just need to get a little bit better with my application, it seems like. Also I'm happy that there are some other people who enjoy this look as well!

>>9743210of course! makeup's something you def. get better at the more you do it :) and i live in korea so i see the gradient lip a lot, haha! good luck!

>>9743001oooo anon! i'm an nc15/nc20 depending on the time of year. i've noticed that the dusty rose colors really do look nice! wet/watery burgundy colors also look really nice, too. there's a blush from a korean cosmetics company 'the saem' called 'dry rose' that i really like. two makeup looks i think would look stunning on you are:

I have extremely low brows and hooded eyes and I'm realizing that the reason my makeup always looks so derpy is because I'm not taking that into account when I apply any eye/brow makeup. Does anyone have any good recommendations for liners/brow pencils? (Also looking for some good drug store brands as I'm a broke college student)

>>9743452Thanks anon, will definitely be looking into that blush as one of my first Makeup hauls!

The only question is will dusty rose colors work for my styles? (ultra girly, usually pastel-vomit type kei) I want to first try out a simple, universal style to match all my coords and I was hoping to go for the whole "Dolly" makeup look. Would dusty rose colors be fine for that?

>>9743907What hair color are you? I use mostly Mid-tier makeup but really love L’Oreal’s brow products, mainly the plain pencil + spoolie combo and the retractable pencil. The quality is good and they’re one of the few brands I feel that has a good blonde for people with very light hair, I like to look natural but filled in. If you have darker hair there might be better drugstore options though.

any recommendations on blush for olive/south east asian skin? idk if i'm picking wrong shades or cheap stuff, but i have to have a lot of highlighter on before i can put blush only to have it show a little bit.

I don't see a skin care thread so I guess I'll post here. I'm in the market for a mild moisturizer to work into my morning routine. My face is pretty clear and I probably don't NEED it but it just feels nice to put on moisturizer in the morning. Can you gulls recommend me anything?

>>9748772If you're just needing a basic moisturizer, I like Cerave's. I use the regular Moisturizing Lotion in the morning and the PM at night for the niacinamide. You can pick them up pretty cheap online/at Target with price comparison to Amazon, though sometimes stores have decent sales.

There's probably better ones out there, but these are basic, boring, and work for me at getting my skin un-dry and are okay under makeup.

>>9741530I have both the Jeffree star highlighter and the kvd one another anon mentioned. The Jeffree star one is green but it's hard to photograph. It's a mint/white. The kvd is more of a lime/bright green

>>9735762dunno if you're still around anon!I cant wear circle lenses because of how large most of them are so I can never get it in my eye, but I SWEAR by these lashes. I snagged them one day randomly in Walmart.I like to wear two pairs of them if I have a character with makeup, and just one pair for a more natural girly look. I also re-use mine! The band is pretty versatile.The brand is eyelene, and they're like $9 IIRC?

I don't really get acne anymore(surprisingly after every routine and shit i've put on my face, it's just diluted tea tree oil has actually worked for me) but my face is scarred as fuck and my pores are craters at this point from tearing my face apart. I know there's peels but I'd like that to be my last resort. I'd be fine just minimizing their appearance rather than going baby bottom smooth. From retionals, BHA, dermarolling, slathering silicone on myself, etc. I get that everyone's skin is different but I can't tell if I'm getting memed or not with fads.

>>9748772You looking for cheap drugstore recs or "mild" as in not heavy? I use Lancome bienfait multi-vital for daytime moisturizer. A little pricey but lasts for goddamn ever and you can usually get some travel-sized moisturizers when you buy it, and those last a good while as well.

I hate drug-store moisturizers because they smell so much like sunscreen, which I absolutely hate. Lancome is one of the only ones with decent SPF that doesn't stink and is lightweight.

>>9748772Im someone who doesnt "Need" moisturizers too but i hate feeling tacky or as if theres a sheet left over on my face.So if you're willing to spend, i would recommend "Youth to the people- age prevention superfood cream". It feels nice, smells nice and it doesnt feel like there is residue but also makes my skin soft. I would half recommend Drunken elefant night cream because it makes my skin look and feel amazing the next day but it feels a little tacky for a while after.

For drug store moisturizers. I like Garnier Hydra bomb. I dont have dry skin and i actually bought it for my boyfriend who has incredibly dry skin, but it works well, is light and i dont feel anything on. It doesnt have the after effects like drunken elephant or nice smell like the first one though.

>>9715431this is FAR more likely with cheek products and lip products, which are not designed with ingrediants for application on the eyes, and thus, not eye-safe. Allergic reactions with eye products being applied on the eyes, on the other hand, are far more rare.

>>9750049I don't think BHA is what you need, that's more for active acne. Glycolic or mandelic acid at a lower concentration than an actual peel can help encourage skin turnover, as can retinol. You can get glycolic acid pretty cheaply from The Ordinary.

>>9718906I don't have any sadly, aside from recommending makeup tutorials from early Gothic & Lolita bibles as oldschool lolita had more tonedowned looks. Issues 1-20 in particular have the looks I'm thinking of. The lolita threads may be able to help you more, sorry.

>>9750767Thanks! I'm seeing nothing but amazing things about it but it doesn't seem in stock anywhere for that particular brand. I'll just wait until it restocks unless I can find something just as good. The Ordinary seems to have a lot of products in general I should check out.

This is a super old post, I know, but another thing is that if you ever get cold sores on your lips, you can accidentally transmit the fucking herpes virus in your eye by doing this, which is super painful and can cause severe eye damage. So play it safe, seagulls.

>>9751751Ulta and Sephora have coupons a few times a year where you can use them even on presteige brands, so if you're really that unhappy about the price I'd just wait.

If you can, go to a store and try it. See if one of the colors matches your skintone. For me I feel it's worth it - it's actually contains more product than your average concealer (0.33 oz vs most concealers are 0.23 or less, some being only 0.15 and so on) and has insanely good coverage with great staying power and doesn't crease much on me. I've tried a good amount of concealers, as while I love Shape Tape the palest color is at my skin tone instead of slightly lighter like I would like, and just none of them have compared so far in terms of coverage and not getting gross over the day. (KVD's goes paler but looks dry, cakey, and creases like crazy on me sob) Though admittedly my pale requirements mean I haven't tried a lot of other ones that are maybe more popular.

I watch Tati and she compares the Catrice Liquid Camouflage concealer to Shape Tape a lot, so many try that one for a cheaper option? Shade range is garbage though.

Went to Sephora and got matched to MUFE's Y215 while the color and coverage work well, it dries patchy on my skin (especially in my drier areas like my chin and upper lip). I have dry skin and my routine is as follows:

PM>clean face with Clarisonic and Philosophy Made Simple >follow up with Garnier micele water again >moisturize with It Cosmetics Confidence in a Cream

I used Urban Decay Quick Fix primer spray today and will try the J.One Jelly primer tomorrow (recommended by the salesperson at Sephora). Any suggestions on similar colors that won't set into my face like that? Eastern or Western is fine as is anything less than or around $40.

I had a hormonal problem in my teens that has left me with a literal beard as an adult. It's incredibly embarrassing and I get 5 o'clock shadow like a man. I shave it, but there's still some stubble/darkness (and too much to pluck). I've tried laser removal but it's incredibly painful (since the hair is so thick/vast) and didn't offer me lasting results. When I have more money I plan to try it again.

In the mean time -- are there any really heavy duty cover ups that would help cover the shadowyness of it? I feel so insecure. If I'm in natural lighting or bright enough indoor lighting, even freshly shaved/with decent cover up, it's totally apparent.

A while ago I was at an outdoor event and some dude came up and asked when I started cross dressing, thinking I was a fucking mtf. When I tried to explain otherwise, he said 'yeah right, I can see your beard stubble'.

Fucking end me, /cgl/. This is the worst feel. Please advise temporary make up release from this hell

>>9752303Stop using that cleanser, it's awful, it's supper drying. I recomend the Murad renewing cleansing cream you will notice the difference. It has lactic acid which is a natural humectant and it exfoliates to get rid of the dry patches.

Maybe start using an oil cleanser? I noticed my skin is much more hydrated and softer afterwards. Even lasts into the morning when I put makeup again, so everything is less dry. Double cleansing when you have makeup on also ensures that the makeup actually comes off.

>>9752352Drag queens use orange beard-cover to color correct the blueness of it, so that should help if it's just shadowy, I don't know it will help with stubble if it's all all day thing, since a lot of it is stage makeup and not meant to last hours and hours.

>>9713306I've tried some of the higher end stuff but I always go back to E.L.F.'s gel liner. If you have a good primer, it's guaranteed to stay on, and I find that it's very easy to apply and good with color. I've been using it for almost three years now and still love it.

>>9753195It seems to have been lots of people's least favorite Too Faced palette, but it was my first palette and I'm very happy with it since I think the peachy colours go very well with lolita looks. I don't get very much use out of the green or purples, and I feel like I've seen other people complain that those colours are pretty muddy. My easiest go-to look is to go over the lid with the white, line the lid with one of the browns, go over the top with a peachy tone, use a shimmery shade for the inner corner (Bellini or something?) and under the outer corner of the eye with a peach tone as well.

>>9753195The purple and green shades might be pretty on the lower lash line as an underliner for night looks. Personally I would do the lid in one of the peach colors (Just peachy/Candied peach), one of the darker browns (Charmed/Summer Yum) for the outer corner, and one of the shades on the left for blending/highlight. For a lighter day/casual look go for Georgia for the lid and maybe Cobbler/Caramelized for the corner instead.

>>9753195My favorite thing to do with this palette is use nectar on my inner eye, inner half of the eyelid and brow bone, and then use bellini in the outer third of my eyelid. Then, I use a little bit of the peach pit color under my brow bone and gently blend it with bellini a bit. It comes out have an almost sunset effect, but I have to be careful not to use too much of peach pit or it overwhelms the yellow and pink tones.

Sorry if this was already asked, but does anyone have any go-to lashes for cosplay? I've been using diamond lash, but the band is really stiff and the glue isn't strong enough to bond the lash to my eyelid for more than a few hours.

Sorry if this is a stupid question or google-able, I'm not sure what phrasing to use.

For liquid/marker/gel eyeliner: My eyelids have a fold of skin over where you're supposed to apply it. This leaves a line of bare skin when I apply my eyeliner, which I try to cover with inner-eyeliner and mascara but it looks sloppy.Please explain what I can do to fix this.

>>9752352Have you tried waxing it? I know the hairs are thicker and probably hurt more than any other part of your body, but it may be worth the hour or two of pain for a few weeks to a month before needing to get it redone?

I'm currently using KVD lock-it primer for everyday, and the smashbox primer for when I'm going to have a long day (e.g. con, meet, etc.)Honestly I can't tell you the difference in staying power. the KVD just goes on smoother, a little bit like a lotion, and is hydrating. The smashbox feels like I'm smushing silicone on my face, but I think I have an internal belief that it's superior lol

different skin types impacts the effectiveness of a specific primer tho, so you should read into reviews with your skin type.

Also I use a brush for my foundation, I use the kvd lock it foundation brush.i've used beauty blenders before and they're great. they just take longer to wash & requires more maintenance, I think. I'm just too lazy to deal with it lolalso i feel brushes last longer, bbs get gross after a few months and you have to replace it often, so while they're really great, i don't want to keep buying them

>>9732481Splotchy and patchy means that your skin might be more on the dry side. You could get the TooFaced setting spray that adds moisture, or get a moisturizing primer. Start off with a small amount of foundation and try to build it up, I use a sponge because it blends into my skin more.

>>9739590It really depends on your skin. Primers tend to make bb creams and foundations look smoother on your face, and last longer. But if your bb cream lasts as long as you want it to, and it looks nice on our skin, you don't have to.

>>9741718I need to know this too. I plan on doing contour kinda like how a drag king does,but turn it down a few notches.

>>9752352orange concealer and then use a full coverage foundation. (I use dermacol).

>>9755121I am still an eyeshadow newbie, but I got that for Christmas too! I'm still a bit too nervous to use jelly (it's a bold color for a bold time), but right now I put extra creamy all over, then I add spread the love to my lid, and then I either use peanut butter/PB cup/nuts about u to my middle crease.. On my outer-v crease, I use a color that is darker than the one I used in my middle crease. Then I use bananas for my inner-eye crease to highlight. Sometimes I'll bring one of the brown shades about 2/3 down my waterline to add emphasis.

I only use jammin when I want to line my eye with something softer than eyeliner.

>>9732481>>9755811Exactly the same thing happened to me - but I noticed it only happened with my liquid-to-velvet foundation and not the BB.I rub a couple of drops of almond/argan/hemp mixed oil on my face and apply the foundation immediately after and it fixes it. Just gives you more 'work time' before the foundation dries and sets.

Can I have some recommendations for loose powders? I do have one I've really liked over the years, but it's the Mary Kay translucent powder and I really don't want to support that company and am trying to find an alternative. I'm also mega pale so I mostly need to stick to translucent / white / no color ones.

Ones I've tried are:Coty Airspun Translucent - The scent was unbearable, I could not use it, seemed nice otherwise in my one try.Innisfree No Sebum + Skinfood Peach Sake - Almost seemed too finely milled compared to all other ones I've tried if that makes sense? I also wasn't the biggest fan of the smells but I could live with them.Laura Mercier Translucent Loose Powder - Really isn't translucent imo, I swear it's darkening my foundation even beyond the normal oxidation

I hear good things about the new Maybelline one but I'm worried that it'll be too dark for my skin even in the palest shade, agh. I'll probably try RCMA powder next, but is there anything else people would recommend trying?

>>9757094Thanks so much anon for the recommendations / avoid tip! Next Sephora/Ulta sale I'll be sure to pick those up, can't have too much powder.

I'm really unlucky with oxidation so maybe that it where it just exacerbates it, every foundation I try darkens a shade or two. I might also just be oversensitive to having slightly too dark foundation since I've been trying to find the perfect combo for years and still cringe any time I notice my face being too dark. I still have the powder and will probably try it more as I reach the summer when I don't need to mix two pumps of white into my foundation, haha.

>>9755385I'll try this, thank you.>>9755696Sorry if I'm wrong, but doesn't hooded eyes mean the browbone covers the eyelid area? I don't think I have that. My eyelid skin is just excessive as gross as that sounds lol.

>>9745369A bit late on the reply, but I went out and bought L'Oreal's brow stylist for brunette (I have weird hair that ranges from strawberry blonde to dark brown depending on the lighting). I wasn't a huge fan of the color of the pot by itself (it had a lot of grey undertones I wasn't a fan of), but the brush it came with worked great! I use the pot for the base and then go over it in a brown eyeshadow and it looks really good! I have to work more on the shape (I'm still scared to go outside my natural eyebrow shape and it looks too thin), but otherwise it's a great product. Thank you so much for the rec!

>>9713691I haven't tried it yet but maybe check out Physicians Formula's new Healthy Foundation. It looks like a nice dewy finish with spf 20. I love PF's foundations most out of all my brands (even high end desu).

>>9739170Basically seconding all of this, mainly Lanolin. Such a godsend. Also when we say "drink more water" we mean insane amounts of water. I go through multiple 16 oz glasses a day and that's the only time my lips aren't completely chapped lol

>>9757954Depends on your skin type / what kind of foundation you use. Lots of knock-offs and imitation ones are cheap but quality really varies, the Real Techniques and Ecotools ones seem to be good quality and affordable if you want to try one. I for instance don't like using it for my full face as I feel like it eats my foundation compared to a brush, but sometimes when my skin is being a bit dry and strange on my acne scars I go over the area with a damp beauty blender at the end to smooth it out.

Different strokes for different folks, just buy a cheap one and try it if you're curious.

>>9752730>>9753009Sorry it took so long to post! I wore the J.One primer today and can finally post a review. My main problems are dryness and large pores. Upon application, it was sticky but dried after about 5 minutes. Once I applied my foundation it looked nice and covered my pores well. Three hours later I saw that my skin looked a little dry and patchy. By the end of the day the patchyness got pretty bad. My skin never FELT dry or tight but it definitely looked that way. So, the primer didn't work for me but I'd imagine if you have normal/oily skin it may work better for you.

On a more positive note, I tried the Murad Resurgence cleansing gel and I love it! I used it first with my Clarisonic then a separate time alone and I think I'll keep using it alone. My face definitely felt cool and moisturized after removing my makeup before bed and still felt that way in the morning. Ulta has a points bonus for Murad so I'm going to get the Resurgence Age-Balancing Night Cream to go with it. Definitely the most expensive skin item I've ever purchased but the reviews look great and it seems the bottle will last me a long time.

>>9757954No. I've had makeup sponges from other brands and even fast fashion stores that gave identical results. The trick is to get a dupe sponge that is very, very soft. If you can, squish any sponge before buying it. If it feels like it would hurt to hit your face with, it's too hard.

>>9757374sure sounds like you're describing hooded eyes to me. I have def hooded eyes and the brow bone isn't *covering* anything, there's just more eyelid to go around which means it doubles up a little. my crease isn't at the edge of my eyelid though, more in the middle.what I do is just gently pulling the skin upward to un-crease it while doing eye make up. the 2/3 thing someone else suggested is on point, I tend to go for a little more than that myself but lining into the corner looks like shit on me. also don't be afraid of doing quite a thick line to give it actual visibility, particularly if you say your crease is right down there.

>>9757954Yes, absolutely. I have a huge collection of sponges and the BB is the softest and blends foundation the most naturally. RT is alright, but it's harder and less squishy. Also doesn't make foundation look as natural.Just wait for a good deal on BB and get one, it's easy enough to snag from hsn or somewhere for 10 bucks when they have a visa deal going on.