This from an article on voting among Muslims so slightly out of context, but what do they mean about extra help for unemployed Muslims? Surely not more help than is currently available for everyone? Are they being singled out for specific programmes? This seems, at face value, to be a disgusting example of discrimination against the majority.
Can anyone shed any light?

Biscuits_AB

Guest

Swinger

Correct me if I'm wrong, and just for the record I'm against this political correctness madness, but when applying for the army isn't it illegal to support political parties who don't want democracy in Britain?

LE

theres loads of these types of schemes out there.
the idea is to help people who research shows have difficulty getting off the dole
e.g. single parents disabled ex prisoners former homeless ex addicts people with mental health issues.
its not anything new what do you want a load of muslim young men hanging around a mosque downloading bin ladens latest for something to do.
Or getting a job and paying taxes ?

On a Hot morning in cyprus I found the meaning of anger. Fortunataly I was comftably numb.
The RSM and various other NCO's seemed very agitated.
maybe they should look into counselling?

LE

The check card is a 10 point initative produced by the Muslim Council of Great Britain , to encourage the Islamic vote. It is a card , that they want Muslim voters to use, when questioning candidates for election.

Now on the subject of 'extra help for Muslim unemployed' , the best thing a candidate can say is 'They will receive the same level of support as any other taxpayer".

The check card is targeting a minority group, because it is produced by an organisation representing a minority group.

Everyone here is blathering on about 'Muslims get special treatment' . They get special treatment because they lobby for it, and make a bloody row. The Armed Forces are a minority group, what do we do to promote our interests? We do Fcuk all. Hackle and myself brought the issue of voting registration up, and how many extra forces personnel registered?

This seems, at face value, to be a disgusting example of discrimination against the majority.

War Hero

If you had taken the time to check the punctuation in my post you would have seen that it is full of question marks.
It was not a statement of discrimination, simply an expression of surprise at the statement:

Biscuits_AB

Guest

Correct me if I'm wrong, and just for the record I'm against this political correctness madness, but when applying for the army isn't it illegal to support political parties who don't want democracy in Britain?

War Hero

Alright PTP.
As your initial post has been modified since I replied to it I can see your points, and they're fair.

My initial post was based around the "extra" and I still have not had an answer on why any group should be getting (or expecting) more help than anyone else to find work, but as this thread has descended into a total lack of comprehension I won't push to get an answer on that.

War Hero

Everyone here is blathering on about 'Muslims get special treatment' . They get special treatment because they lobby for it, and make a bloody row. The Armed Forces are a minority group, what do we do to promote our interests? We do Fcuk all. Hackle and myself brought the issue of voting registration up, and how many extra forces personnel registered?

If you want preferential treatment, you have to fight for it. Stop whingeing about what others get , and start lobbying your MP's for equitable treatment.

Or you can sit on your arrses , and have this government take the p iss.

From rather hazy recollections (I've been out a long time) the system is stacked against any squaddie who tries to 'promotes interest'. Political involvement is effectively banned so there don't appear to be many routes open. Writing to your MP used to be seen as the supreme act of heresy and was an act of suicide for anyone who did (and got found out ).

Apart from voting what do you suggest as a squaddie self interest group that wouldn't get classed as a form of union and bring the wrath of god down from on high?

War Hero

I think you will find that if help is needed in an area then this is available. Those who can't read and write can get adult lessons.
Those who lack English Language skills can access such help.

Personally, I applaud anyone who gets off their backside and does something to improve themself and try to put something back into the community. That Muslims (probably from abroad) may use this type of facility more than us Anglo Saxon types is to be expected as we know English (most of us) and it is fair to say that we have had access to a decent level of education as children if brought up here. If they receive extra encourgement for this then all the better.

LE

Unfortunately I can't totally refute it , as I am in a rather good position to see what actually goes on hereabouts.

That is not a green light for some of your more unacceptable ranting, but the basic crux of what you are saying, is supported by some evidence.

I had a very heated discussion this morning, with 2 West Indian descended professionals. One is a Nurse, the other is a Music producer.

Both are firmly of the opinion, that West Indians have become increasingly marginalised in this country , BECAUSE they largely play by the rules and try to integrate as much as possible, be this through sport , church , entertainment , work or social activities.

In other words, their ethnic differential has largely disappeared. But surely, that should be a good thing?

However, there is mounting resentment in the West Indian community , at what is seen to be 'New Immigrants' taking advantage of the progress the community worked hard to achieve. There is resentment, and it is growing steadily, that not only has that hard work been hijacked, but the people who have done the hijacking, are percieved to be giving nothing back.

West Indians largely perceive themselves as British first , and their nation of origin second. Well, except when the West Indies are hammering the England pace attack into the long grass.

The British 4 x 100 team at the Olympics, made much of being British , including one runner, who held up the Union Flag and said 'I did this for my country'.

It's ironic, that when a cross section of the community works to integrate, it largely succeeds , only to appear to be forgotten.

He had bought a large map representing the sea,
Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
A map they could all understand.