IEBlog - All Commentshttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/Internet Explorer Team Blogen-USTelligent Evolution Platform Developer Build (Build: 5.6.50428.7875)re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604203Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:39:22 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604203Husam Humaidan<p>I just want tabs to be really separated and fluid when opening them. if I make any action on a certain tab like opening link then instantly try to navigate to another already opened tab the browser will hang for a moment until the first tab responding then it will switch to the other tab. this slows the user experience &nbsp;and browser fluidity. this issue was exist in IE11 and it still in Spartan. thanks</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604203" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604189Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:57:05 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604189Please make Spartan installable/runnable on older operating systems<p>Please... please... please... make Spartan run on older operating systems... At LEAST Window 8. &nbsp;It will take forever for IE to fade away with XP, Vista, Win7, Win8, Win8.1 still in the wild. &nbsp;I&#39;m not suggesting delaying Windows 10 timeline for this. &nbsp;When 10 is RTM, please work to get Spartan installers for older operating systems! &nbsp;Otherwise there will be 10-15 more years of hacks and shims for backward compatibility. &nbsp;Developing against evergreen browsers is only going to become a reality when the old machines with old Windows versions dilute the market share of IE to the point where nobody cares about their experience. &nbsp;I&#39;m hoping that the most popular sites will start forcing users away from IE versions as soon as possible. &nbsp;Since you guys still seem to think that synchronizing your web browser versions with your operating system releases is a good idea, the only viable recommendations would be to install Chrome or Firefox and not Spartan. &nbsp;So you&#39;re not just screwing over hundreds of thousands of web developers and wasting billions of man-hours of frustration/labor globally, you&#39;re shooting Spartan in the foot before it&#39;s even released.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604189" width="1" height="1">re: Project Spartan and the Windows 10 January Preview Buildhttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/01/22/project-spartan-and-the-windows-10-january-preview-build.aspx#10604187Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:54:51 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604187active windows build 10049<p>please serial for active windows after install build 10049 &nbsp;tanks</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604187" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604169Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:16:44 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604169Vitor Canova<p>@Andy P</p>
<p>No, your Gran just use &quot;The internet&quot; like always before. It will be Spartan (if you decide to not change) and IE11 will needed JUST for absurdly old and poor cared sites (read corporate intranet sites).</p>
<p> The open web works just great in Chrome, Firefox, Opera and will continue to run in Spartan.</p>
<p>Sites that will need IE11 to run can&#39;t be used today in all those new browsers. Corporate envirownments are full of legacy code that just break in new sites. One of those sites I need to use in the company even use X-UA-Compatible set to IE5. Can you imagine a website made for a 15+ years old browser running in Chrome 42? I will tell you: It just doesn&#39;t work.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604169" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604167Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:06:49 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604167Vitor Canova<p>@Bernie Since it is a regular Windows Store App it will probably update trough the Store like Mail, People and so on.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604167" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604144Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:07:40 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604144meir weiss<p>so I am reading Spartan w win 10 and msie 11 x alongside.</p>
<p>I have not been able at all to upgrade windows since nov 2014 a major glitch &nbsp;with win update </p>
<p>I need to know that the upgrade to win 10 will correct all this problem with win 8.1x</p>
<p>and msie 11x</p>
<p>or reformat hdrive to win 8.1 64 bit now [ my last resort]</p>
<p>Iafter upgrading I need complete win update smooth upgrades or i&#39;ll be major frustrated, as I am now </p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604144" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604140Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:51:24 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604140hAl<p>As group policy control is vital for security purposes most business will likely not allow the use of spartan browser.</p>
<p>We need IE11 (preferbly IE12) to use the edge rendering engine. </p>
<p>You should better stop supporting the IE9 and IE10 rendering in stead of dropping edge rendering in IE</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604140" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604138Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:39:11 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604138leoniDAM<p>but the WebView control and the Windows apps written in HTML/CSS/JavaScript will use MSHTML.dll or EdgeHTML.dll?</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604138" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604129Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:46:53 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604129EricLaw [ex-MSFT]<p>@Gary: They&#39;re saying (B), but I&#39;d be surprised if there were really no options for GP control of *some* Spartan features. </p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604129" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604106Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:02:02 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604106Gary Steeles<p>Oh, and now an additional question regarding this quote from the linked article: <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/30/introducing-project-spartan-the-new-browser-built-for-windows-10/">blogs.windows.com/.../introducing-project-spartan-the-new-browser-built-for-windows-10</a></p>
<p>&lt;quote&gt;At the same time, we recognize that for some of our enterprise customers, it’s important they have the support they need and can continue to use Internet Explorer when and where they need it. This is why we will continue to make it easy for our enterprise customers to make Internet Explorer 11 the default browser via group policy. Internet Explorer 11 is supported on Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 for all customers, also providing a consistent platform that’s great for enterprise Web apps.&lt;/quote&gt;</p>
<p>This quote is very ambiguous - does this mean:</p>
<p>A.) That whatever &quot;Project Spartan&quot; will be named - will **NOT** be manageable via Group Policy in the Enterprise?</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>B.) That for IT departments worried about Spartan being the default browser, rest assured it can be set back to IE11?</p>
<p>There is a massive difference between the 2 potential meanings.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604106" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604100Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:51:31 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604100Gary Steeles<p>Re-posting from the last post...</p>
<p>@MSFT The most important bit of info was missing from this (and all past posts). The codename for the new browser is &quot;Project Spartan&quot; but can we get some details on what the new name will be? &nbsp;We need to start publishing documents for our Enterprise clients detailing which browser they need to use and which icon to use per app they are using (not all will be able to run in 100% Standards Mode due to flawed designs by original developers that leveraged IE-only technologies (wow - talk about instant technical debt!))</p>
<p>Will it be called &quot;Internet Explorer 12&quot;? &quot;Metro IE 12&quot;? (oh please god not &quot;Modern UI IE 12&quot;?) or will just the &quot;Project&quot; part drop and become just &quot;Spartan&quot;?</p>
<p>Please indicate soon as we will have clients updating to Windows 10 as soon as it comes out.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604100" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604099Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:48:42 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604099Karl<p>Spartan browser have Add-Ons. </p>
<p>now Flash Player only. </p>
<p>Are We develop Add-Ons By .Net Framework?</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604099" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604095Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:35:02 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604095Andrey Oliveira<p>Well it could be possible to do a search only in the content of the pages (not sites) that are a favorite. For this, the content of synchronized favorite pages could be indexed by Bing and linked to my account on a particular search session.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604095" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604081Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:31:22 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604081mohamad atiye<p>Dear microsoft spartan browser team,</p>
<p>I would like to point out that me and many of the people i know still use google chrome only due to its native inpage translation...i live in russia now(i dont know russia &nbsp;yet) so most of the sites i use should be translated for me to understand. I ask you to please make a solution for this. Thanks</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604081" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604080Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:28:54 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604080Stilgar<p>Does Spartan have an extensibility mechanism to replace ActiveX or there is no option for plugins?</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604080" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604073Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:57:56 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604073Bernie<p>Will Spartan be ready for self update like Firefox or Chrome? </p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604073" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604070Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:36:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604070Max<p>Does that mean that we will be stuck with the IE-engine being used to render websites in other applications and help-documents AND a &quot;browser app&quot; on top of that? So that we have to fix security issues in 2 browsers now instead of just 1?</p>
<p>Also: we in Europe are a bit concerned of security and data-protection.</p>
<p>Thus we don&#39;t want a &quot;Windows appstore&quot; and will block - esp. in industrial environments - for security reasons.</p>
<p>If we choose to forcefully uninstall the Windows appstore and remove the app-engine, effectively making Windows unable to run any apps at all (like we routinely do): does that mean that we have to use Firefox or Chrome to browse the web?</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604070" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604065Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:11:59 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604065joe<p>Wow, I just installed 10049 to try out Spartan. &nbsp;It is so not ready for release. &nbsp;It froze trying to render cnn.com. &nbsp;IE is still a lot better and faster. &nbsp;Will Spartan really be ready by the end of the year? &nbsp;</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604065" width="1" height="1">re: HTTP Strict Transport Security comes to Internet Explorerhttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/02/16/http-strict-transport-security-comes-to-internet-explorer.aspx#10604051Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:33:02 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604051Micheal Jame<p>Invoke Moving Services is a family-owned moving company operated in Texas. Our Fort Worth Movers do all types of local and long distance moving services. invokemoving20@gmail.com</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604051" width="1" height="1">re: HTTP Strict Transport Security comes to Internet Explorerhttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/02/16/http-strict-transport-security-comes-to-internet-explorer.aspx#10604045Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:15:29 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604045Michael jame<p>Invoke Moving Services is a family-owned moving company operated in Texas. Our Fort Worth Movers do all types of local and long distance moving services. <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.invokemoving.com">http://www.invokemoving.com</a></p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604045" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604040Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:02:19 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604040Sreekumar<p>Good to know that IE and the new browser will be kept separate from a &#39;layout &amp; rendering engine&#39; perspective. Otherwise, it would have caused many confusions. Hoping to see Spartan as the new, trendy, slick browser for the future.</p>
<p>Also please stop using &quot;IE&quot; specific forums/blogs for information on Spartan. This also helps in reducing the confusion and helps to perceive the two as separate.</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604040" width="1" height="1">re: Updates from the “Project Spartan” Developer Workshophttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/24/updates-from-the-project-spartan-developer-workshop.aspx#10604037Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:50:57 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604037Andy P<p>So it&#39;s another browser? So developers will have to support Chrome, Firefox, IE (almost always the one that causes problems compared to the other two) and now Spartan *as well*? What an absolute mess.</p>
<p>And, from the user&#39;s point of view... let&#39;s say my Gran upgrades to Windows 10, she uses Spartan, she comes across a website that was written a few years ago, or even just not very well (my Gran has very little interest in cutting edge stuff) and she has to open an *entirely different browser* to view it!? She doesn&#39;t even know what a browser is, she just calls it &quot;the internet&quot;, and now you&#39;re expecting her to know and understand that the Spartan browser has intentionally decided not to bother with compatibility and that she should use IE11 for those sites instead? What an absolute mess.</p>
<p>How come MS still can&#39;t get browsers right, TWO DECADES after billg&#39;s internet &quot;tidal wave&quot; memo? What are you guys doing over there in Redmond?</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604037" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604010Tue, 31 Mar 2015 07:09:27 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604010ところで 訂正<p>×検索エンジン</p>
<p>◯ブラウザのレンダリングエンジン</p>
<p>まぁいずれにせよ、Chrome関連ベースの独自エンジンでしょうかね？</p>
<p>英語わからない所あるのでいつも日本語コメントばかりでごめんなさい。</p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604010" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10604001Tue, 31 Mar 2015 06:21:10 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10604001NumbStill<p>I tried using the RemoteApp to access Internet Explorer, but it does not work anymore.</p>
<p>- Started it.</p>
<p>- Double clicked on the Internet Explorer preview icon.</p>
<p>- A blank window came up and an alert showed up -</p>
<p>Stack overflow at line: 43</p>
<p>- Restarted Windows.</p>
<p>- Started it.</p>
<p>- Let it update.</p>
<p>- It started.</p>
<p>- A blank window comes up with the same alert.</p>
<p>Windows 7 SP 1 with Internet Explorer 8.</p>
<p>Seems to be reported here (I added the above information there, too) -</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://feedback.azure.com/forums/247748-azure-remoteapp/suggestions/7151950-stack-overflow-at-line-43">feedback.azure.com/.../7151950-stack-overflow-at-line-43</a></p>
<div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=10604001" width="1" height="1">re: "Project Spartan" in the Windows Technical Preview build 10049http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2015/03/30/quot-project-spartan-quot-in-the-windows-technical-preview-build-10049.aspx#10603989Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:49:58 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:10603989ところで<p>ユーザーエージェントがIE11とSpartanが同じようなんだけどいいのか。</p>
<p>上側がSpartan、下側がIE11だがChrome39扱いになるとはどういうことか？</p>
<p>検索エンジンはどちらもWebkitのままなのか＆独自エンジンというのは嘘なのか？</p>
<p>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0 </p>
<p>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/39.0.2171.71 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0</p>
<p>それと改めて申しますが、やっぱり7や8.1でも欲しいと思うので今後お考え下さいませ。</p>
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