Mother Shipton purportedly died on 1561 but up until 1641, there were really no records of her existence. So when a certain Richard Head surfaced and
claimed to be her biographer in 1684, his statements were received rather poorly. Soon enough, it was proven that his biography of Mother Shipton was
nothing more than a figment of his imagination.

In the 18th century, another man took advantage of the legend of Mother Shipton and he went by the name of Charles Hindley. He was the editor of 1862
version of her so-called prophecy which made it to print for the first time. Later on, Hindley confessed that it was all fabricated and he made it
himself.

Without sufficient evidence or even any trace of her existence, Mother Shipton is nothing but a myth. And a myth can never be used to support a theory
or a fact.

That's really cool dude, so you're like 500, 600 years old huh? That's amazing! You know, cuz for you to know that she wasn't around in the
1500's and the subsequent prophecies of hers were just made up by some dude a century later, you'd have to be there. Bc then you'd just be reciting
things you don't really know too, and that would put you on level terms with the people you're going against?

People can be made to disappear. From the observable world and from the records of said world. It can happen today so it could sure as hell happen in
the 1500's. Heck, history is constantly being rewritten. Sources cherry picked. So you really don't know much. I'm not claiming she and her
predictions are real but really, you can't say they're not.

I wonder if a large enough comet, passing close enough to our gravitational field, could exert enough pull to makes volcanoes erupt by pulling magma
out towards the crust. Kind of like our moon does to our tides. Interesting theory.

Originally posted by acteur8
I don't want to hijack the thread, but does anyone remember seeing a comet in the night sky in the late 90's? I don't think it was a bad omen.

Hey you are not hijacking the thread. I am not saying it is going to be a bad omen. I really do not know. I am seen comets before but the two coming
next year and nothing like the ones I have seen in the past. The first one may be visible in the day and the second one may be bright enough to
outshine the moon.
In the past people have thought comets omens. If any comets are going to be omens these two are it...

Actually there are a lot of comets we are not aware of. We monitor only a fraction of all the comets in the Solar System so one of them can sneak up
on us (Tunguska)

Hope not.

The 'good' thing is that stories from thousands of years ago are talking about the end of mankind in the past but we are still here. I assume those
were local events but seemed like the whole world is on fire.

I wonder if a large enough comet, passing close enough to our gravitational field, could exert enough pull to makes volcanoes erupt by pulling
magma out towards the crust. Kind of like our moon does to our tides. Interesting theory.

No. Comet nuclei are extremely small and fragile. Their gravitational pull is practically non-existent. In fact, if one strayed too close to the
Earth, it is likely that the Earth's gravity would tear it apart! Nevertheless, I can see we are getting set up for another round of
Elenin-mania. Who will be the first to claim the recent earthquake in Japan was due to a "cometary alignment?"

I've been hearing beinning dates for the Age of Aquarius as early as 1983, and that was in the early (before then) 1980's. I had never heard a
"2012" date until the 2012 hoopla started. Either way, I don't understand why, but it seems we can't pinpoint it exactly, even though it's a
celestial measurement. I guess the question is at what degree of the constellation do we consider the age having begun. Anyway, realistically, the
date would be "right about now, plus or minus 30 years"

I wonder if a large enough comet, passing close enough to our gravitational field, could exert enough pull to makes volcanoes erupt by pulling
magma out towards the crust. Kind of like our moon does to our tides. Interesting theory.

No. Comet nuclei are extremely small and fragile. Their gravitational pull is practically non-existent. In fact, if one strayed too close to the
Earth, it is likely that the Earth's gravity would tear it apart! Nevertheless, I can see we are getting set up for another round of
Elenin-mania. Who will be the first to claim the recent earthquake in Japan was due to a "cometary alignment?"

Well, we are in perfect alignment with the comet right now. Also, my dog is in perfect alignment with your front door, my passenger-side rear brake
pads which started squeaking the same day as th earthquake are in perfect alignment with the epicenter of that earthquake. Incidentally, the quake's
epicenter was perfectly aligned with the very centernof the HAARP installation.

In other words, as DJW knows, and HOPEFULLY the rest of us, at least anyone who's made it through 6th grade knows, any two points can be connected by
a straight line. It takes 3 points to form an "alignment." nevertheless, we'll unfortunately continue to see connections made between events and
two objects being "in alignment". Even three in alignment has been shown NOT to have devastating effects. If it did, our population would probably
be sitting at around 450, and we'd just be working our way through the stone age. At best.

DJW, sorry to piggyback so much on your post, but it seemed a good chance to expand, with sarcastic allegory, on your point, and hopefully nip it in
the bud before it gets out of hand (again.)

It's interesting. If this is the Age of Aquarius, and Aquarius is called "The Water Carrier", well, a comet, being made of mostly ice, could also
be called a "water carrier". Some theories have comets delivering most of the water to supply our oceans.

Now, I don't think this will be an "age of comets"... Comets have always been a part of our reality
What I am proposing, is that, much like how the last 2000 years, the age of pisces, began with Jesus, who's life impacted the entire 2000 year period
or "age"... This comet will have a direct impact on how the next 2000 years go.

For those who don't know, the zodiac sign pisces is a fish, which happens to be a symbol of Christianity, and there are famous stories involving
Jesus and fish.

Maybe this age will also produce a spiritual teacher?

Try to think of what else a "Water Carrier" and keep an eye out for it cause it should be arriving soon within the next 15- 20 years I guess...

I wonder if people will be studying us 2000 years from now as they try to decipher the meaning of the next age... Wonder what that will be?

I also wanted to throw out there... When all this 2012 hysteria began for me, I came across something that said we were actually skipping past the Age
of Aquarius for some reason. I don't know how all that works, but I just remember being bummed out because I am an Aquarius and I thought maybe
things might finally start going my way for a change... Now I gotta wait another 22,000 years for my chance again?

Anyway, someone may want to look into that so we know if there is a possibility of it being a different age. What comes after Aquarius?

Why were comets were seen as omens to the peoples of old and why people would take to the hills upon the approach of a comet. I cannot help but wonder
if either of these two comets are the return of the dragon that comes when we enter a new age.

or what Mother Shipton refers to as the Dragon..

A fiery dragon will cross the sky
Six times before this earth shall die
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
for the sixth heralds in this prophecy.

For seven days and seven nights
Man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken To bite away the shores and then
The mountains will begin to roar
And earthquakes split the plain to shore

There are many other legends of a object that comes to us from the deep abyss of space when we enter a new age.. Time will tell...

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
What if Dec 21, 2012, is just the beginning marker for this time of comets? Maybe it is the sign on the highway that says, you have entered the age
of aquarius, but nothing happens right when you enter the sign.... You only get to the real good stuff when you keep moving, then all of a sudden
you're in the center of town before you know it. Maybe these comets are the first signs of aquarius, and maybe it really is the age of the destroyer.
The real question is, how far into the age will we make it? If its 2160 years long, will it occur in the first 100 years? Or will it take 1000, or
1500?

Judging by the age of pisces, Christ seems to have been born fairly quickly in the age of pisces. Maybe within the first 30 to 50 years. So perhaps
the destroyer will be about the same.

We live in very interesting times and whats to come, we really have no idea, but we do know this, it will be something we've never seen before.

omfg dragons ushering in the age of aquarius?

Revelation 12:16
But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his
mouth.

I don't subscribe to any religion anymore but those just jumped out at me

In the light of recent events I thought I would bump this thread. Today as most of you already know a meteorite hit Russia. Many where injured but no
one died. An object was also seen travelling through the sky in Cuba and exploding..

Tonight the comet 'Lemmon will be passing by. It will be just be visible to the naked eye if it is dark enough. If you live in the UK it will cross
the tail of the big dipper at about 7.30 tonight. The skies are clear here and I live in the best part of Europe for sky watching. So fingers crossed
I might see it...

This map shows every meteorite fall on Earth that we know about; where scientists have found either meteorites or impact craters. Some of these
craters and meteorite fragments date as far back as the year 2,300 BCE. The data for the image is from the US Meteorological Society and does not show
places where meteorites might have fallen but no trace has yet been found.

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