If Apple decided to end the jailbreak wars, do you think it would take away the thrill?

Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:34 PM

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Many people have said to me "If you like having a phone with more capabilities, why don't you buy an Android instead of an iphone?" My response is "If a phone comes with all the features without needing a jailbreak, there is no thrill to it all" This is because, when Apple puts so many countermeasures against jailbreaking it only makes jailbreaking more fun. Not only does it turn into a game, it also satisfies the ego. This is because when you sucessfully jailbreak you feel smart knowing that you were able to beat a system set by a powerful corporate giant. Especially when you know that doing it wrong can **** things up. So in my opinion I want the jailbreak wars to continue. Without all the countermeasures that Apple set, you don't get the same satisfaction to the ego. If Apple decided to end the jailbreak war, iphones would no longer be fun. Anybody else agree.

Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:01 PM

Actually you can't screw anything up. You can always put an iPhone into DFU mode if you mess something up and then restore it from there.

I don't feel that way at all. I think this "game" is annoying. I hate not being able to update to the latest version right away because I'll lose my jailbreak. I hate not knowing when you'll be able to jailbreak when you buy a new phone. I might feel that way if I was one of the people developing the jailbreaks, but when I download a program on my computer and press a few buttons on my phone and it's jailbroken, there's no thrill for me.

Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:12 PM

Actually you can't screw anything up. You can always put an iPhone into DFU mode if you mess something up and then restore it from there.

I don't feel that way at all. I think this "game" is annoying. I hate not being able to update to the latest version right away because I'll lose my jailbreak. I hate not knowing when you'll be able to jailbreak when you buy a new phone. I might feel that way if I was one of the people developing the jailbreaks, but when I download a program on my computer and press a few buttons on my phone and it's jailbroken, there's no thrill for me.

Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:23 PM

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Channan, on 13 March 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Actually you can't screw anything up. You can always put an iPhone into DFU mode if you mess something up and then restore it from there.

I don't feel that way at all. I think this "game" is annoying. I hate not being able to update to the latest version right away because I'll lose my jailbreak. I hate not knowing when you'll be able to jailbreak when you buy a new phone. I might feel that way if I was one of the people developing the jailbreaks, but when I download a program on my computer and press a few buttons on my phone and it's jailbroken, there's no thrill for me.

If you don't like the jailbreak war, you can always get an Android. I know you may say that jailbreaking is easy. But when most of your friends are naive iphone users, when you tell them about what your jailbroken phone can do your literally the coolest kid in town. Especially when they get jealous and ask you to jailbreak their phone, it makes you sound smarter then them even when it's an easy thing to do. It's all about thrill and ego.

Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

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iPod touch:iPod touch 4G

iPad:iPad 3rd Gen

Mac:MacBook Pro

iPod:iPod nano

Apple TV:Apple TV 2G

I have an Android phone, a Galaxy Nexus.

Everyone I've known that's had their phone jailbroken did it themselves AFAIK. Even my old dumb manager, who couldn't spell correctly or use proper grammer on my write-up, managed to jailbreak and theme her iPhone. Besides, I don't care about showing off my phone and trying to look cool. I just want my phone to do the things I want.

Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:50 AM

Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:23 AM

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Ditto. iPhone/iOS whether jailbroken or not still remains the simple option where [almost?] everything remains automated. Android stays as the more complicated but user controlled one. At least this is from what I've experienced.

Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:34 AM

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It would be better if the wars ended. The iOS would still be simple and user friendly, but If there were people who wanted to spice up their device, they could do that without having to go through the long and delicate process that jailbreakers do. There are packages that anyone would love to have, but since they are not presented in a user friendly manner, most people choose not to bother. I would love to have a simple switch like android does. That would make things so much easier. So then there would be the complicated android vs. the as-complicated-as-you-want-it iDevice that is still intuitive to use.

Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

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I personally think unlocking, rooting, and roming my G-Nex was harder then using say idk Sn0wbreeze. Redsn0w, Greenpois0n, and jailbreakme were all quite easy and straight forward. I had to use adb command prompts, set paths, download files, make a recovery, etc. just to unlock my G-Nex. But guess what at least I was given the option on day 1 to do it. Thanks Google!!!

"Don't believe everything you see on the internet. That's how WWI was started!"-PS3

Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:48 AM

When you "root" a Android phone, THAT feels satisfying. Takes no skill to jailbreak it. Rooting a device takes computer knowledge.

This is how you root a ThunderBolt on a Mac.

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Introduction:

The following procedure is for Mac users wishing to root your Thunderbolt using ADB. The files I'm using in this procedure are the same files being posted everywhere else. The only difference in this procedure is that it is written for us Mac users.

It might look a little intimidating (due to its length), but there is actually a lot of copying and pasting you can do. I am also very detailed, for you noobies out there. I decided to put this together, because the 1-click methods out there still require user interaction, and in some cases the commands in the 1-click scripts do not finish because they hang at one or more of the ADB commands embedded in the script. This process allows you to copy and paste what I've written into the terminal window. Entire root process should take around 30 minutes.

One important thing to know: You will lose all apps and data. Meaning you will need to reinstall and reconfigure all email accounts, settings, and applications that you download from the market. You should also know that there is always some level of risk when flashing ROM's and using procedures such as this one to root. I wrote the procedure, but I take no credit for anything else. Check the credits at the bottom of this page for those who made this all possible. With that, let's get started.

The method of rooting your Android device as described in the article herein is solely for enthusiasts and not for the faint of heart.
IT WILL WIPE YOUR DATA. IT WILL WIPE YOUR DATA. IT WILL WIPE YOUR DATA.

The instructions below assume you already have a strong familiarity with adb command lines – this is not for beginners.

Section 1 (Please reference this section if you post problems):

Files + Video:

1. It's extremely important that you download the necessary files to the proper place. If you want to watch a quick video on how and where to download the files properly you can watch the video in: Post #2. As an added bonus, I also talk about using terminal, adb, and what to expect when you are in bootloader mode throughout the procedure.

At various points -- throughout this procedure -- your Mac may display a disk error message like the one below. You can safely click Ignore when you see "The disk you have ejected was not readable by this computer" and click OK when you see "This disk was not ejected properly."

You do not type the $ before any of the commands below. The $ represents the command prompt and is shown for illustration purposes only.

To avoid errors, for more complex commands, I recommended copying from this post to the terminal. All you need to do is 1) select the line in this window 2) hit command-c and then 3) hit command-v in terminal to paste it.

You DO need to type the period in front of each command. For example: the period here: ./adb devices is part of the command. It will not work without it. If you copy and paste lines, as I recommend, it is important to get the period during the selection.

Unless otherwise specified, you should never see an error after entering a command. If you did, double-check that you just entered the correct thing.

For the more curious, I will give you a complete rundown of what each command does in post #2.

Please do not PM me with questions or problems. Unfortunately, I'm only able to respond to PM's related to forum administration :/ If something doesn't work right, please select, copy, and paste the last several lines of your terminal session into a new post in this thread.

Enter or copy/paste the following ./adb (without the $) lines into terminal:

Tip: I copied and pasted my entire terminal output to the attached PDF. Feel free to use it as a supplement as you proceed.