Vera just reached the Doha final, Venus is the Wimbledon champion. Who wins?
Venus leads the h2h 3-1, they haven't played since 2004

miffedmax

Mar 6th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Venus is playing Mommy Vera?

cellophane

Mar 6th, 2008, 12:55 PM

Venus + Vera = Virus

I don't know why I posted that :o

Renalicious

Mar 6th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Venus in two easy sets, I'm confident.

Poova

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:00 PM

Vera 7-6(4), 6-4

I don't see V&S playing here for some reason, so one of them's gotta lose. :p

dya74

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:04 PM

:(vera

kadirelf

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Venus 6-4 6-2

new-york

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:11 PM

it seems like both haven't been playing really well so far.
just can't tell.

goV.

i just want a working scoreboard to follow the match.:mad:

Venus_Serena

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Venus please:p

BuTtErFrEnA

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:34 PM

queen vee

kwilliams

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:40 PM

Go Venus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can do it.

Chrisi

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:42 PM

I hope Venus, but I think Vera!

Maria Croft

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:44 PM

I think it's going to be Zvonareva in 3 tough sets.

Paneru

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:48 PM

Venus

She knows she'll have to play better
against Vera tommorrow and I believe she will.

DA FOREHAND

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:52 PM

of course I want Venus to win but I think Vera may pull the upset.

rrfnpump

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:54 PM

I think Venus will win 60 46 63. :o

Foot's Fingers

Mar 6th, 2008, 02:27 PM

Vera Zvonareva :rocker2:

Cp6uja

Mar 6th, 2008, 02:33 PM

Venus will win 1st set for sure... but what will happen after i realy dont know.

BigBabeTENNIS

Mar 6th, 2008, 03:01 PM

know one knows wat venus will show up tomra vera is playing sum good tennis

Ballbasher

Mar 6th, 2008, 03:04 PM

Vera 6-4 6-4

Michael!

Mar 6th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Vee isnīt in great shape, but Veraīs results in her first matches werenīt good...:p
In a match with many upīs and downīs Venus will win :angel: (if her injury isnīt too serious :scared:)

Direwolf

Mar 6th, 2008, 03:08 PM

Venus seldom wins the 3rd set easily anymore...
so.. when she won 6-2 in the third set against shuai peng...
i was impressed

LudwigDvorak

Mar 6th, 2008, 03:24 PM

I love Vera, and for all her virtues and talents, it's just not enough. Venus is going to make her run, and Vera isn't as good a defender as she used to be--at least that's what I saw in Doha.

Venus in two sets. Three if she hands it away. But I hope whoever wins the QF beats Serena in the SF. :unsure:

V-MAC

Mar 6th, 2008, 04:30 PM

Well Vera is capable of beating Vee with the current form she is in.....but I hope Vee is able to raise her game a few notches and take care of her in straight sets.

RJWCapriati

Mar 6th, 2008, 04:33 PM

Zvonareva in 3

3-6, 6-4, 7-5

Dave.

Mar 6th, 2008, 04:42 PM

I think Vera will win something like 6-2 7-6.

Highlandman

Mar 6th, 2008, 05:48 PM

Venus will win like 6-3,6-4 :D :yeah:

AcesHigh

Mar 6th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Venus will get her revenge for 2006 Wimbledon.

oleada

Mar 6th, 2008, 05:54 PM

Zvonareva. Vera wasn't too good in her opening match, but Venus has been sucking lately, and she's injured.

zvonarevarulz

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:00 PM

Venus will get her revenge for 2006 Wimbledon.

:confused:Ummm the only time Vera beat Venus was at 2003 RG

Cp6uja

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:09 PM

Venus will get her revenge for 2006 Wimbledon.:confused:Ummm the only time Vera beat Venus was at 2003 RGYes... but acording to Wimbledon 2006 official "Locker Room Confrontations" thread Bepa JINX Venus in Wimbledon 2006 and after that Venus lose.

It's time for revange :rocker2:

Dodoboy.

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM

Venus in 3 again in my opion!

Hopefully 2 easy sets and same with Serena!

All WS showdown :drool:

venus_rulez

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:16 PM

I say Venus wins something like 3-6, 6-4, 6-3

AcesHigh

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:24 PM

:confused:Ummm the only time Vera beat Venus was at 2003 RG

Wimbledon 2006 Mixed Doubles final ;)

Brooks.

Mar 6th, 2008, 06:45 PM

my money's on Vera

she's just playing better right now...I think she'll just play very consistently and draw a ton of errors out of Venus

I hope Venus proves me wrong, but this matchup isn't looking too good in my eyes

darrinbaker00

Mar 6th, 2008, 07:03 PM

Wimbledon 2006 Mixed Doubles final ;)
Well, if it wasn't for that no-doubles-playing stiff Venus was stuck with..... :hehehe:

Destiny

Mar 6th, 2008, 07:37 PM

Vamos

Allez

Come on Venus

Win !!!!!!

I wanna see you beat Serena :p :devil:

starin

Mar 6th, 2008, 07:38 PM

Vera is in much better form than Venus right now. She'll prob. win something like 62 63

or something embarrassing like that. Venus hit 15 DF in her last match :tape::help: and I think Peng was in a worse slump than her. But at least she won a round and losing to Vera will be her best loss since AO. :p

AcesHigh

Mar 6th, 2008, 07:39 PM

Vera is in much better form than Venus right now. She'll prob. win something like 62 63

or something embarrassing like that. Venus hit 15 DF in her last match :tape::help: and I think Peng was in a worse slump than her. But at least she won a round and losing to Vera will be her best loss since AO. :p

How optomistic :lol:

maddogz48

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:04 PM

Venus will win in straight sets. With Serena there in Bangalore to give Venus some updated pointers on Zvonareva's game, I don't see how Venus can lose this one. :)

starin

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:15 PM

How optomistic :lol:

Gotta look on the bright side...she'll be losing to a higher quality of opponent. The only thing is that I can see Vera beating both WS back to back which would be extremely embarrassing for them. But IMO not that much of surprise...2008 seems like massive slump year for both girls.

Venus will win in straight sets. With Serena there in Bangalore to give Venus some updated pointers on Zvonareva's game, I don't see how Venus can lose this one. :)

r u kididng me? you know she just lost to a girl ranked 150 in the world, in the first round of a Tier III. And you can't see how she could lose to Zvonereva who has a top 10 game and just comes off of reaching the finals of Doha where she took Sharapova (the most in form player atm) to 3 sets. And you can't see how Venus DF, UE queen could lose to her?

I wouldn't be surprised by any result. She could lose 60 61 or win 60 61 or any variation in between.

AcesHigh

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:28 PM

Gotta look on the bright side...she'll be losing to a higher quality of opponent. The only thing is that I can see Vera beating both WS back to back which would be extremely embarrassing for them. But IMO not that much of surprise...2008 seems like massive slump year for both girls.

r u kididng me? you know she just lost to a girl ranked 150 in the world, in the first round of a Tier III. And you can't see how she could lose to Zvonereva who has a top 10 game and just comes off of reaching the finals of Doha where she took Sharapova (the most in form player atm) to 3 sets. And you can't see how Venus DF, UE queen could lose to her?

I wouldn't be surprised by any result. She could lose 60 61 or win 60 61 or any variation in between.

Venus has been worse. I don't expect her to lose b/c she has freak losses to players we've never heard of or don't expect her to lose to. She shouldn't lose to Zvonareva.. I don't think Vera's game is one that will bother Venus too much on this surface. Even if Venus throws in 10 DF, she's great on return, so she should break enough to counter that. You need to have a little faith.

slamchamp

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:31 PM

I think Vera but I want Venus (who wouldn't like a WS match-up?:shrug: )

Emina.

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:33 PM

Vera, Vera, Vera!!! :bounce:

Dodoboy.

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:52 PM

I really don't understand matches where people hit 15+ second serve!...once you hit 10 just friggin underarm the serve :haha:

No but seriously....it is very strange to me....is it the pressure of game or just bad techinque on second?

Shvedbarilescu

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:11 PM

Wimbledon 2006 Mixed Doubles final ;)

I was at that match. Damn that was an amazing match. Vera was head and shoulders better than anyone else on the court that day. She was returning Bryan's serve way better than Andy Ram and was serving awesome herself. Her passing shots, her volleys, everything was working. The other the three players were just performing supporting roles. The whole match was about Vera, she was the star. It really was an extraordinary performance. She took that form into her next tournament too, winning Cincinati, defeating Golovin 6-3 6-0, Jankovic 6-1 6-1 and Serena 6-2 6-3 on the way.

Tennisstar86

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:17 PM

Gotta look on the bright side...she'll be losing to a higher quality of opponent. The only thing is that I can see Vera beating both WS back to back which would be extremely embarrassing for them. But IMO not that much of surprise...2008 seems like massive slump year for both girls.

You're already calling it a slump year when its march... Venus has only done well in like 1 spring season her entire year on tour and Serena has only played one tournament... both got to the quarters of AO... and Serena just bageled her last opponent...:rolleyes:

I really don't understand matches where people hit 15+ second serve!...once you hit 10 just friggin underarm the serve :haha:

No but seriously....it is very strange to me....is it the pressure of game or just bad techinque on second?

umm its easy really... youve already served 5 doubles... you go up and miss the first, then your thinking **** i already hit 5 cant do another, so you change your serve try to spin it in and dont hit out, and either hit the net or push it long.....Its very easy to see.... Doubt can creep into the game easy... You could be serving 100% first serves, and mess around and serve two doubles in a row and it would just open the flood gates...

Shvedbarilescu

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:17 PM

Oh back to who will win this match, and truth is I really don't have a clue. But I think it will be very very close and probably a bit edgy. It could very well go to the wire in the 3rd set. Should be fun.

Ok, if I had to venture a guess I will say Vera 7-5 in the 3rd but if Venus just edges it that wouldn't surprise me either. Only thing that would really surprise me is if Venus won easily. That won't happen. I don't expect Vera to win easily either although I'd say that was slightly more likely.

AcesHigh

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:25 PM

I was at that match. Damn that was an amazing match. Vera was head and shoulders better than anyone else on the court that day. She was returning Bryan's serve way better than Andy Ram and was serving awesome herself. Her passing shots, her volleys, everything was working. The other the three players were just performing supporting roles. The whole match was about Vera, she was the star. It really was an extraordinary performance. She took that form into her next tournament too, winning Cincinati, defeating Golovin 6-3 6-0, Jankovic 6-1 6-1 and Serena 6-2 6-3 on the way.

She's amazingly talented and that entire doubles tournament she was on fire. To be fair, Venus's partner, I think it was Bob Bryan(i always get the brother confused) was tired after playing the doubles final that morning I think, but Vera was excellent.

The problem I see Vera having though is Venus's speed. I'm not sure how she'll handle it. This is also hardcourt, not clay so Venus's aggressiveness resulting in winners and forced errors can counter her UE's and DF's. It's really a toss-up IMO. If the real Venus shows up, she will win..but we havent seen that Venus since USO 2007.

Vera just can't let Venus get herself together and if she is on fire from the start, the match could be over before Venus has the opportunity to find her game.

eugreene2

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:27 PM

Venus form is so bad that I kinda think this will be a repeat of 2004 Charleston. Venus came into that match against Vera in bad form and woke up. She was focused from the get go & won in 2. I expect that Venus tomorrow.

Shvedbarilescu

Mar 6th, 2008, 09:57 PM

She's amazingly talented and that entire doubles tournament she was on fire. To be fair, Venus's partner, I think it was Bob Bryan(i always get the brother confused) was tired after playing the doubles final that morning I think, but Vera was excellent.

The problem I see Vera having though is Venus's speed. I'm not sure how she'll handle it. This is also hardcourt, not clay so Venus's aggressiveness resulting in winners and forced errors can counter her UE's and DF's. It's really a toss-up IMO. If the real Venus shows up, she will win..but we havent seen that Venus since USO 2007.

Vera just can't let Venus get herself together and if she is on fire from the start, the match could be over before Venus has the opportunity to find her game.

Yeah it was Bob and yeah he was the weakest of the four players for sure. Venus played ok, not her best but ok.

As for the match, I agree again Venus's speed could be decisive. She is as fast as anyone in the game but the problem is when Venus makes too many errors that weapon becomes negated. I do think Vera will get a lot of balls back so while Venus does need to be agressive I think she also needs to be prepared to be disciplined and not go for winners that aren't there.

They are both good players to watch and I would love to be able to see it on the telly but I guess I will have to make do with the internet scoreboard, if even that is working. :tape:

-NAJ-

Mar 6th, 2008, 10:16 PM

I hope Venus:dance:

The Kaz

Mar 6th, 2008, 10:28 PM

Vera in 3...

Something like 2-6 6-3 6-3

pav

Mar 6th, 2008, 10:59 PM

I hope of course Bepa,but she wouldn't want to start half assed like she has been, not easy to beat Goddess Venus (sister of Goddess Serena)but could be a good match(till the scoreboard buggers up!)

Bruno71

Mar 6th, 2008, 11:07 PM

Vera may not be able to start slowly in this one, like she has all of her recent matches. Though Venus hiccuped against Peng, the highlights made it look like she's in better form than she's been. A total toss-up.

friendsita

Mar 6th, 2008, 11:26 PM

Venus in 2, even though she plays like shit.

Uranium

Mar 6th, 2008, 11:46 PM

Venus and Vera both have been streaky this week. But Vee will pull out the win

Tennisstar86

Mar 7th, 2008, 01:00 AM

Vera may not be able to start slowly in this one, like she has all of her recent matches. Though Venus hiccuped against Peng, the highlights made it look like she's in better form than she's been. A total toss-up.

yeah... wish i could see the tennis, The highlights showed Venus in decent form.. Peng just stepped it up....

samsam4087

Mar 7th, 2008, 02:58 AM

Vera will win.

Lucas_Arg

Mar 7th, 2008, 03:51 AM

Venus.

Stamp Paid

Mar 7th, 2008, 03:52 AM

Allez Vahnoos!

Lucyxx

Mar 7th, 2008, 05:43 AM

Blue eyes.

sinkordia

Mar 7th, 2008, 07:41 AM

In general Venus is better, but this time Verka will win.

pigmalion

Mar 7th, 2008, 08:03 AM

I hope Bepa :unsure:

BuTtErFrEnA

Mar 7th, 2008, 10:01 AM

so much for vera winning the poll :unsure:

Shvedbarilescu

Mar 7th, 2008, 10:25 AM

so much for vera winning the poll :unsure:

No match has ever been won on public opinion. :shrug:

I think the form going into the match of both players justified Vera being regarded as a slight favourite but of course form can fluctuate greatly especially with players as unpredicatable and capable of both extremely good and not-so-good tennis as both Venus and Vera are. I'm sure Venus wouldn't have been bothered about whether people thought she was going to win or not. It's much more important to win the match on the court and Venus did that.

I for one certainly didn't expect such as easy win, so I can only say that I am impressed with what Venus did in this match.