I would like to tell you that I told him to "shut up" when he said that Enda Kenny would make a fine Taoiseach, actually; but I didn't, because, well, who knows, maybe Kenny will turn out to be a good Taoiseach.

The interview was brief because Hayes had shopping to do -- "the high street sector, it's decimated" -- and I had a car to dig out of snow in Rush, north Dublin, the home town of Fine Gael deputy leader, James Reilly.

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