Oh yeah this is really fair with their "get it from us and no one else" attitude.Yeah they don't take enough from the people busting their balls
just to get by no they want more.They want it all.It's like George Bush said.."You're either with us..or you're with the terrorists.

Are you really free?

A government has enslaved your mind to believe that you really need them to protect you....protect you from what?Who's invading who?

What can we do about it?..I don't know,except it.Then maybe you can move on with your lives.Other than that,let people know.

Because if you resort to physical violence they can and will enforce martial law.

Of ourse if they can cite specific points in the bill that might help.

But they can't and won't. Since I've seen this type of hype before.

Unfortunately a lot of members here seem to jump on a thread at face value rather than look into what is really happening.

Point I don't understand is why do we need another law? Are there not food inspectors in America? Who cares where the food comes from?

We have laws in this country already that should check to see if food is good or bad. Shouldn't matter where it came from. Why, because they should
inspect it. Also, big business should inspect it after the government inspects it. But they don't. They don't care what kind of food they shove
down your throat. All they care about is how cheap they can get it. Then care about how expensive they can sale it to you.

But this bill torpedoe's the competition. Be it outside or inside. No congressman from IL would introduce a bill that helps citizens from TX. It
helps his state and his donors.

I didn't look it up but I'm willing to bet the sponsor of this bill get's donations from the Agriculture community of his state. I'm willing to
bet the cosponsors get a little something something also.

I'm ignorant on how it all works. So let me ask. Let's say I'm big business and decide to buy my food out of country.

Are there any federal guidelines I have to adhere to at that point? Or can I just ship in a billion tons of lettuce without the government caring one
bit?

I would think laws already exist for that. Does big business have to produce some documents that they inspected this outside farmer out? But here's
what's funny. We have laws against child labor but we import goods from countries that use child labor.

Tell me how it's not all about big business again? Our morals only exist inside America. We don't give a hoot about anyone elses morals. We
shouldn't import anything from a country that uses child labor.

To counter somewhat this bad news story: My quality of life has never been better since I retired and moved into a small lot in the middle of town.

I grow and eat my own vegetables; resorting to store bought stuff only as a last resort. Stuff like the leathery, travel weary lettuce from the
store is nasty compared to what I get from my garden.

My new-found neighbours also have their gardens and between us we share back and forth all the time. The sense of camaraderie and "we are all in
this together" is a refreshing change from the "one-upmanship" of the burbs.

I also grow many natural plants, AKA weeds, with herbal and medicinal properties. I share my surplus flower bulbs and cuttings with anyone who wants
some.

All of this is about as complete opposite as possible from the control mania that seems to be sweeping all of our governments. It can be done. More
of us just have to get out and start digging, and relying less on the giant supermarkets.

Mind you, there are some people in my neighborhood who rely on 7-11 convenience stores even more than grocery stores for their food. - ugh!

Wooooow. This would devastate our local communities. I live in PA an we've a slew of farmers that make their income this way. We've got lovely
farmers markets that offer all kinds of organic fruits and vegetables. Most run sustainable farms. I cant imagine my city without this....

Many paraphrased derivatives of this have often become attributed to Franklin:

* Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.

The Federal Government has screwed with just about everything in our lives, now it comes to food. If food becomes so costly a man becomes hard pressed
to feed his family there's no question in my mind this is when the guns come out and they will be in the hands of the civilian populace and there
will be bloodshed. Industries like Monsanto I would suspect would be laid to waste. With the direction this government is taking it almost seems like
they are making serious effort to enslave the citizenry. After Obamas statements I'm of the belief his is a muslim, a plant of sorts to take this
country down from within. I would also see it becoming so bad that he would eventually declare martial law and declare himself president for an
indefinite period of time. This is where you never give up your guns no matter what, if you do then you have surrendered.

Reading over a description of this bill, I found two disturbing trends. The first one is the control of food, and the second one is that the bill
seems to place the control of food into corporate and international hands, thus bypassing the constitution and our rights as citizens of America.

Once the government controls the food supply to the extent of not allowing citizens to grow their own food, they have complete control over YOU.

Reading this... it is important enough I think... could someone post a direct quotation from the bill where it says that homegrown food would be
illigal?

Many paraphrased derivatives of this have often become attributed to Franklin:

* Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.

[edit on 15-8-2010 by svpwizard]

I bet one day people from history like Franklin will be looked upon as traitors, and people who read them terrorists.

I posted exerps on the thread I linked to because I read the bill, so don't berate people when you are incorrect and haven't read the thread.
That is kinda rude don't you think?
Didn't read it is not the same as didn't post it.

Oh, did I mention they are already swat teaming Amish farms and raw food distributers....

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