tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post369042074528249438..comments2014-08-07T06:13:13.014-07:00Comments on ThinkTank: [Druid] Cat item list and rep list for Pre-naxxKalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-56907622769040662212009-07-26T09:18:02.146-07:002009-07-26T09:18:02.146-07:00I was wondering what you thought of Chain Gang Leg...I was wondering what you thought of Chain Gang Legguards. Lootrank doesn&#39;t even list them for reasons that are beyond me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-59014588283528738272009-04-07T11:25:00.000-07:002009-04-07T11:25:00.000-07:00Anon - I think that would be because this list is ...Anon - I think that would be because this list is for gear that can be obtained prior to setting foot into naxx.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-44265579233299759352009-04-07T10:32:00.000-07:002009-04-07T10:32:00.000-07:00Wrist:"Dragonfriend Bracers"Why do you choose this...Wrist:<BR/>"Dragonfriend Bracers"<BR/><BR/>Why do you choose this when "Trusting Bands" is wayyy better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-5713747228117187802009-01-20T08:30:00.000-08:002009-01-20T08:30:00.000-08:00Leviyah, thanks for coming by. I posted to a certa...Leviyah, thanks for coming by. I posted to a certain extent what it would rank <A HREF="http://wowthinktank.blogspot.com/2008/11/druid-fap-fap-fap-fap-fap.html" REL="nofollow">in this post</A>, but I need to clean it up. Basically, this is the best pre-naxx weapon you can get if you're not hit-capped. If you are, the Staff of Trickery is better. It does beat out the Staff of the Plague beast for that reason too, but Black Ice, Inevitable Defeat, and the other feral DPS staves beat it.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-30751628321306153212009-01-20T05:12:00.000-08:002009-01-20T05:12:00.000-08:00With patch 3.0.8, what do you have to say about th...With patch 3.0.8, what do you have to say about the Titansteel Destroyer? That's a lot of hit for those of us kittens that are not hit capped. Is the lack of agi and crit on the weapon too detrimental to our dps, or would a good enchant fix that up? Thanks!Leviyahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-47663396760313516542009-01-09T13:11:00.000-08:002009-01-09T13:11:00.000-08:00An interesting side note I just realized from read...An interesting side note I just realized from reading another post on hit cap on the forums is if you have even one Draenei in your party you get 1% more chance to hit. Not sure what the math is on that (thats why i need you guys, i suck at math).Loquathttp://www.charismatips.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-6203753601157437322009-01-09T12:10:00.000-08:002009-01-09T12:10:00.000-08:00Hey, Loquat - thanks for coming by. :)Hit rating o...Hey, Loquat - thanks for coming by. :)<BR/><BR/>Hit rating of 296 (which is what I listed) is what is needed to overcome 9% chance to miss, which was what was thought to be the overall miss rate. It appears from some testing that this may be incorrect; the resources I've ready say 8%. If that's the case, you should only need 263 hit rating. I'm not sure where he gets the 8.2% hit rating requirement, to be honest; I've not seen anything like that anywhere.<BR/><BR/>The tricky thing is that it appears there is a different hit rating against the boss-level target dummies and some mobs. <BR/><BR/>Along with retesting Living Root of the Wildheart, I'm going to test this out a bit as I can. I'll let you know and hopefully write an article. It looks like I need to update the cat lists and guides a bit. :)Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-20914723563135780102009-01-09T12:05:00.000-08:002009-01-09T12:05:00.000-08:00Ok, I'm confused. I was hitting 268 for hit and ex...Ok, I'm confused. I was hitting 268 for hit and expecting to use a food buff to hit the cap. Now I recently read Karthis' article over at http://www.resto4life.com/2009/01/09/guest-post-so-you-want-to-rip-some-face/comment-page-1/#comment-8511 who i think is an amazing theorycrafter. He lists the cap at 263<BR/><BR/>Call me confused...loquatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-31719107508764084112008-12-03T14:21:00.000-08:002008-12-03T14:21:00.000-08:00Hey, Nate -The ring of Invincibility costs 25 embl...Hey, Nate -<BR/><BR/>The ring of Invincibility costs 25 emblems of Valor, which are the 25-man token that only drop in heroic Naxx, Sartharion and Malygos. That's why it's not on the list. :)<BR/><BR/>As to the emblems turnin, you can turn in the emblems at <A HREF="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40612#sold-by" REL="nofollow">2 different places for the chest</A>. Hope that helps.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-7937382434465176282008-12-03T08:05:00.000-08:002008-12-03T08:05:00.000-08:00i'm at langstrom's leather shop and the Heroes' Dr...i'm at langstrom's leather shop and the Heroes' Dreamwalker gear seems to be available only by token redemption. Is there another place to get these via emblems or did bliz change something?Natenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-91457609765276935282008-12-03T07:08:00.000-08:002008-12-03T07:08:00.000-08:00hi. thanks so much for the feral gear lists. i won...hi. thanks so much for the feral gear lists. i wonder if the 25 EoH ring (Ring of Invincibility) might make it onto the ring list above the 8K ring? it's stats are slightly better and you don't need all that gold, just heroics. It's also available from Harold Winston.Natenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-60427329475257620792008-12-02T11:59:00.000-08:002008-12-02T11:59:00.000-08:00Yeah, you're right. I got confused on the spreads...Yeah, you're right. I got confused on the spreadsheet I was making. For some reason I equated "emblem" with the 25 man stuff, when it's the last part that determines whether it's 10 or 25.<BR/><BR/>I've been trying to make a plan based on your list that's broken down by what heroics to do, what to spend badges on, what to get crafted, etc. <BR/><BR/>So much information to sort through.Beablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-43457042646015180092008-12-02T11:22:00.000-08:002008-12-02T11:22:00.000-08:00Hey, Beable - thanks for coming by. I had recently...Hey, Beable - thanks for coming by. I had recently did a post for the 10-man badge pieces, and posted that separately for cats along with the rank (as well as putting it here). There simply aren't that many 10-man pieces that exist. But they're here.<BR/><BR/><I>With the new mechanics of savage roar and its percentage boost to AP, does it make more sense now to stack AP more?</I><BR/><BR/>Anon, the system already ranks AP fairly high. It's just that strength is higher (because it gives 2.166 AP per str point thanks to scaling) and hit/expertise are higher yet (because the cost of a miss is very high in the cycle). AP scales MUCH better than it did before, but it still doesn't beat strength or agility.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-26985718338888383562008-12-02T10:29:00.000-08:002008-12-02T10:29:00.000-08:00It looks like the badge items you're recommending ...It looks like the badge items you're recommending are solely the 25 man versions. Any chance you could put in the 10 man versions ranked also, separately? I doubt I'm the only person who is not going to try to venture into 25 mans.<BR/><BR/>Thanks a lot for the great list, by the way. Using your two feral lists to figure out my gear path.Beablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-67980807361050065832008-12-02T07:52:00.000-08:002008-12-02T07:52:00.000-08:00With the wotlk changes to cats I've been using rak...With the wotlk changes to cats I've been using rake and ferocious bite a lot more. That being said I finally started understanding and using savage roar after having it for roughly two levels. It has replaced FB as my primary CP sink. It was something I saw on RAWR that got my attention and changed my perspective. Before I was fixated on getting to 5CP before using a finishing move (FB/RIP). An old and difficult habit to break from the pre 3.0 kitty dps rotation. On RAWR it indicated an optimum SR rotation of mangle-rake-SR. I tried it and loved my immediately improved dps. Even on trash mobs while quest grinding. Even better, for those mobs that have a few more hps savage roar is still up for my second set of combo points. I've seen FBs of 8k plus.<BR/><BR/>This brings me to my question. With the new mechanics of savage roar and its percentage boost to AP, does it make more sense now to stack AP more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-57513093135889511052008-11-26T10:01:00.000-08:002008-11-26T10:01:00.000-08:00Dan - thanks for coming by. And really good questi...Dan - thanks for coming by. And really good question! I don't specifically value any of the set bonuses in here, though I should probably comment on them. The 4pT6 is a really good bonus, especially given how good rip is with the glyph and with a 2pT7 bonus. <BR/><BR/>The biggest problem with 4pT6 is that, simply, the tier 6 pieces (especially the pre-sunwell ones) are so poor for cat. They waste a lot of item budget on things like stamina and int. <BR/><BR/>If you are going to keep 4pT6, I would recommend keeping belt, boots, bracers and shoulders. Those are the least valuable upgrades on a per-slot basis, and they should be vaguely competitive if you gem them. The chest, legs, gloves and (especially) head are just too good by comparison. And that all said, I've not run the numbers yet to see whether 15% more rip damage is really worth losing all those stats. My suspicion is that it'll be acceptable, but it won't be optimal. <BR/><BR/>Now, by comparison using 2pT6 is pretty close to optimal pre-naxx, as manglespam with the lower crit rate that you'll have is going to be more effective at keeping up bleeds and doing more damage with ferocious bite. That changes when you start getting more gear, but until then it's pretty close.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-67222707248732344102008-11-26T09:44:00.000-08:002008-11-26T09:44:00.000-08:00Question, do you value the set bonus of the T6 gea...Question, do you value the set bonus of the T6 gear relative to the value of pre-naxx gear? I find the 4T6 quite valuable.Danhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08018891865607891311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-38969285202301873152008-11-25T12:31:00.000-08:002008-11-25T12:31:00.000-08:00=D I guess I should look things over before I say ...=D I guess I should look things over before I say anything, haha. I just remembered a comment about it and figured I would come back and say something. And I added the mention of the neck because the idol was up there too.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the quick response!Mitchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07319274326354800966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-4114512314996319962008-11-25T12:24:00.000-08:002008-11-25T12:24:00.000-08:00Hey, Mitch - I had actually _just_ updated the Mas...Hey, Mitch - <BR/><BR/>I had actually _just_ updated the Mask of the Watcher last night for where it dropped (along with the other bits I had originally missed). Thanks for catching that. :)<BR/><BR/>And yeah, I want to go through the badge rewards as well. I hesitated for this before simply because most people I knew were going to ignore them completely for gearing up; it was going to take too long to get the x badges before moving on to Naxx. Still, should put them up for completeness sake and whatnot. Possibly in another post, since this one is so big already. <BR/><BR/>Thanks!Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-60455301115697637732008-11-25T12:18:00.000-08:002008-11-25T12:18:00.000-08:00Just as a little update: The Mask of the Watcher d...Just as a little update: The Mask of the Watcher dropped for me from the Oculus.<BR/><BR/>Also you should consider adding the Pendant of the Outcast Hero bought by Emblems of Heroism (25). It is an awesome neck piece, just picked it up a few days ago. 45 AGI, 100 AP, 38 crit, 51 STA.Mitchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07319274326354800966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-21032215515945533372008-11-24T08:29:00.000-08:002008-11-24T08:29:00.000-08:00Thanks for coming by, Anders. :) And yeah, now tha...Thanks for coming by, Anders. :) And yeah, now that I'm in Northrend I know that (and have the pattern, even) but haven't updated this list. It should be up to date now. :)Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-74219121689003993932008-11-24T04:52:00.000-08:002008-11-24T04:52:00.000-08:00FYI: Trollwoven patterns are bought from a vendor ...FYI: Trollwoven patterns are bought from a vendor in Dalaran for Arctic Furs (rare drop from Skinning Northrend mobs, can be traded/AH:d).Andershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01174922843733794622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-82868386176494372272008-11-07T13:11:00.000-08:002008-11-07T13:11:00.000-08:00Great list thank you. I havent been in beta, so it...Great list thank you. I havent been in beta, so its nice to get a flavor of the kind of gear out there. It all looks pretty sweet. Also nice to learn that our stat priorities are changing to be more in line with rogues. Makes sense since its all rogue gear we'll be taking. Let it no longer be known as rogue gear!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-53002025341786339542008-11-07T10:41:00.000-08:002008-11-07T10:41:00.000-08:00Hey Anon, thanks! I'm really, really dumb!I added ...Hey Anon, thanks! I'm really, really dumb!<BR/><BR/>I added the cloaks bit. Nothing too surprising.Kalonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05193899462301079034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1872162580492321772.post-11006809448843771142008-11-07T08:02:00.000-08:002008-11-07T08:02:00.000-08:00Thanks for the great list. If you get a chance, c...Thanks for the great list. If you get a chance, could you add cloaks?<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>-ElationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com