No... it was offense.. this is what people don't understand.. offense and defense are tied together.

This is why Fox doesn't WANT guys playing offense... because it would make his defense look worse. It's a gimmick. He runs the ball every play to protect his defense and put them in a good postition and wrested.

Avery Johnson used to use Nowitzki like he was Tim Duncan. That is the worst thing you could do with a player so unconventional like Dirk. Avery did this because he was just trying to mimic Popovich of the Spurs because that was all Avery knew.

Just like NFL coaches can only imitate what they did before under other coaches because they are so limited in their knowledge.

Tebow doesn't have the line GB does but I've seen them hold forever while Tebow is back there as indecisive as ever.

This is a perfect illustration of why you can't go by LOOKS.

That DEFENSIVE line is "holding" so long because that is what they have been coached to do.. Tebow's mobility and running ability forces the D line to try to contain Tebow. But then what they do is attack him when he is forced to pass. It's really just a kind of delayed blitz. All it does is make Tebow's offensive line LOOK much better than it is. If it was a normal passing QB they would have just attacked immediately and gotten the quick sack.

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At times I thought he was going to hold that ball and never let go. That isn't the line, the WR's, the playcalling. That's Tebow.

It's caused by the lack of aggression.. running every down with ineffective runners... telling your Qb not to risk interceptions as all cost. cutting the playbook down because you aren't making any kind of risky passes.

They basically just don't let Tebow play QB until they are down 2 TDs or it's the end of the 4th quarter.. how can people not see this?

It's also why the Broncos D look much better than it is.. it's a gimmick.. run the ball all the time and punt the opposing offense deep in their own territory every time.

Matt Flynn? You are nuts man.. put Tebow in Greenbay's offense he would be unstoppable..

He would probably win more than Rodgers.. but he would still do it ugly so people would doubt him just like everyone is doubting him now.

You gyts are too consumed with "looks".

If Tebow has a real coach that understands offense those couple plays here and there would have been the difference in the game...

It's amazing Tebow was as successful as he was with Fox's weighing him down. He could only do it for so long. He's playing opposing defenses with no help.

If you want to see a carbon copy of this go look back at Dirk Nowitzkis career in the NBA. He had a terrible coach in Avery Johnson that had no idea howto coach offense and he drove Dirk into the ground and had him lose to the Golden State warriors in the first round of the playoffs. Then Dirk wins a championship with a coach that actually knows what he is doing.

You have this incredibly innovative player and Fox has no idea how to adapt to him. Tebow adapted to Fox because of his great running ability.

Really? SO he'd win 16 games this year? Your continually prove yourself to be the dumbest POS to have ever graced this board.

I really hadn't commented too much on this, because I wanted to see how it played out. I thought the "magic" angle was overstated for several reasons. "Magic" implies an improbable win under unusual circumstances. But all the Bronco wins were exactly the same game! It went like this:

1. Broncs play team with losing record, are offensively challenged like themselves, have a rookie qb, or five dbs out with injury.

4. Opposing defenses back off in fourth quarter, leaving large areas of the field for Tim to roam or run. They no longer contain on the edges and play 10-20 yards off.

5. The so called "magic" begins when the offense suddenly and miraculously moves, after bumbling and stumbling for 55 minutes. Opposing defenses suddenly decide to defend the pass, despite the fact Tim will run for short yardage on key gains.

6. Score is close, a touchdown or less. Big runback is optional, putting Broncos in place for a "comeback."

7. Cameras are deliberately on Tebow for long periods of time between series, or when he's praying or kneeling.

8. We get the standardized cliches about "Tebow Time" and the goobers in the third deck waving signs.

9. Broncos score, pull out narrow win.

9a. Press conference has a Tim giving standard bland comments with no depth or insight as to how he really feels.

10. Skip Bayless will shriek the following day on "ESPN's First Take" and try to shout down Steven A. Smith.

11. Trent Dilfer will pump and praise Tim (curiously, a lot of the same things were said about him although he was a better qb).

THE FLIP SIDE

1. Broncos play team with legitimate qb and offense.
2. Tim turns ball over and fumbles.
3. Defense can't keep up (minus a certain team captain)
4. Broncos get blown out.

So really, they have no margin for error...they either win extremely close games or get totally blown out. You can't trust a team like this in the playoffs. Based on post game comments, it almost feels like the players already know they have no chance. It ain't like back in the day!

****, put Brady Quinn in there, just so we have a control. We will see how bad the WR, Coaches, etc., et al... really are. If Quinn comes in and throws for 300 yards, then there you go, you have your answer.

According to reports, he was pretty heartbroken. That was the throw right there, the spark. CB's were on everybody like glue, and Tebow put it right where he had a chance to make a catch. Simms kept trying to say it was knocked away, but Willis just spiked it. With that catch, the whole last drive becomes exciting.

thats because the CB did knock it away,watch the replay. Hell it was reviewed again today & it was verified that the CB got his hand in there to knock it out.

Not for me Popps. I have never been on the bandwagon. I do not think he is a long term answer. I would love to be wrong. Really. I hope that someone flashes this post at me in three years and says, "Remember when you were bagging on Tebow?" I hope I eat a healthy portion of crow.

But Tebow is not the answer. I hope we draft a QB in the 2nd - 5th round and pick up Matt Flynn as a free agent. Let those three guys fight it out in a full offseason and really build this team.

Not for me Popps. I have never been on the bandwagon. I do not think he is a long term answer. I would love to be wrong. Really. I hope that someone flashes this post at me in three years and says, "Remember when you were bagging on Tebow?" I hope I eat a healthy portion of crow.

But Tebow is not the answer. I hope we draft a QB in the 2nd - 5th round and pick up Matt Flynn as a free agent. Let those three guys fight it out in a full offseason and really build this team.

I think ultimately you would have to release tebow, tebownites would never let up & would not support whoever won out in training camp. It would create such a distraction that no one would succeed going forward. remember how alot of tebownites make the claim that tebow is not a practice player.

you're also not going to be able to sign matt flynn with the winning pitch of "hey, check it out: come here and we'll let you compete for the job in training camp. and part of your competition will be the most popular player in professional sports. sound good?"

****, put Brady Quinn in there, just so we have a control. We will see how bad the WR, Coaches, etc., et al... really are. If Quinn comes in and throws for 300 yards, then there you go, you have your answer.

what if he comes in throws for 300 yards and then the run game stinks with him and the defense regresses without the run game and he throws 2 picks and they still lose by a touchdown..?