I wish I knew I only got them yesterday and just threw them in the field so I have not given them a true test. As for a true test the course I play on I can really only see using them on 3 holes maybe one more if I am in a groove. But I am baby sitting so I might have to wait till the weekend to really get an idea

The newest bag looks really good, looks a lot like mine in a way. I've just started to audition the Echo Star Destroyer myself. I've hit really good with it, but my form is battling back and forth. I think the PD and I use the SOLF are just as long for the majority of the throws I've thrown with my Destroyers, but when my form is good, they're incredibly long disc and longer than my SOLF.

But, on a side note I did have to use a 175 Echo Destroyer as a headwind type driver in a 20+ mph semi-headwind/crosswind. It was raining and had to throw it on a 260' hard hyzer open hole, and you have to throw it high to get around these bushes. So basically I was throwing 350'+ into a headwind crosswind combo and nearly parked the hole. So it can work as an over stable disc, but doesn't perform like a Pred or Firebird in those SHTF situations. Heh.

From what I remember about Destroyers, they were more stable than I like them (I'm a Wraith thrower), and I have 400+ power, but not near what I would want for headwind control. Maybe you will see them differently, but you may still consider a true overstable mold. That's my 2 cents at least.

Understable DriverAvenger SS – 170g x 2 (I use these for shots when I need an anhyzer to hold till the ground)XS – 170g – Z plastic (for negative shots when I want stability at the end)

Moderately Overstable DriverEcho Wraith – 173 g Pro wraith – 170 g

Very Overstable DriverNuke – Z plastic 168 g I removed my destroyers for the moment to replace with these. The nuke seems to be working better for me on FH drives then the destroyer. In reality it probably makes little difference as these are just not used that much.

Mids:Elite – Z Buzz – pink to use when the grass and weeds are nastyElite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots Meteor - is back in Fuse - Is in test mode

Misc discs - ( Added these discs as I am using forehand a lot more for upshots)Predator – Z plastic 170 g Also good for headwindsFlick – 150 class Z plastic

Understable DriverAvenger SS – 170g x 2 (I use these for shots when I need an anhyzer to hold till the ground)XS – 170g – Z plastic (for negative shots when I want stability at the end)

Moderately Overstable DriverEcho Wraith – 173 g Pro wraith – 170 g

Very Overstable DriverNuke – Z plastic 168 g I removed my destroyers for the moment to replace with these. The nuke seems to be working better for me on FH drives then the destroyer. In reality it probably makes little difference as these are just not used that much.

Mids:Elite – Z Buzz – pink to use when the grass and weeds are nastyElite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots Fuse - Is in test mode

Misc discs - ( Added these discs as I am using forehand a lot more for upshots)Predator – Z plastic 170 g Also good for headwindsFlick – 150 class Z plastic

Misc discs - ( Added these discs as I am using forehand a lot more for upshots)Predator – Z plastic 170 g Also good for headwindsFlick – 150 class Z plastic – I use this almost like a mid to skip around obstacles and touch shots when I am cramped for space.Flick – 164 Z plastic – For 300 ish drives where I want a skip

Misc discs - ( Added these discs as I am using forehand a lot more for upshots)Flick – 150 class Z plastic – I use this almost like a mid to skip around obstacles and touch shots when I am cramped for space.Flick – 164 Z plastic – For 300 ish drives where I want a skip

Putters:Pure grip line – 174x 2 Challenger - 174

Removed the Avenger SS sidelined for the moment for lack of use. I did add back in the S-PD ,the meteor and added a Z drone.

Still trying to figure out my understable mid choice. I bounce back and forth between the fuse meteor and comet. Someday I hope to have this worked out. The other discs changes were just removed from the bag because of lack of being used and a few replacements added to see it they will get any play time.