How to Use Raidbots and Sim Your Character - New Guide

We're happy to present a new guide for max-level players - How to Use Raidbots by Sholdice! Find this guide easily in the future by simply typing "Raidbots" into the search bar.\r\rRaidbots is a valuable website allowing players to run character simulations online, get stat weights, compare gear and talent builds, and more. You can also check out the Official Raidbots Discord as well for tips. Let us know in the comments if there's another useful addon or tool you'd like us to write a guide for!\r\rClick here for the Raidbots Guide\r\rHere's a short excerpt from the start of the guide to give an idea of what is covered:\r\rTo simulate your character over on raidbots you need only head over to the website and "Quick sim." Select your character\u2019s realm and region, put in your name, and sim away. There are a lot of options and other things to consider when simming but if you\u2019re just looking for that one number at the end of it this will get you there.\r\rThere are a few limitations on Raidbots when simming your character. To get to these we have to get some terms defined and some concepts explained that are very important to simming and to Raidbots, as well as a few of the more common options to change and what their defaults are.\r\rIterations: every time that simulationcraft runs a simulation it does so a large number of times. Each one of those times is considered an iteration. More iterations will increase the accuracy of the sim but also make it take more time. The default is 10 thousand iterations, which most have found to be a good number. The other side to iterations is that since Raidbots is running on \u2018the cloud,\u2019 it\u2019s being shared amongst everyone who is using it. To keep things under control each sim is limited to a maximum number of iterations, for example the top gear comparisons let you have up to a total of 300 thousand (300k). At 10 thousand per set this usually means you can run a few dozen combinations, but remember that the number of combinations grows quickly.\rFight Type: There are different types of fights that simulationcraft has pre-defined events for. Obviously a fight like Antoran High Command would be a very different fight compared to Garothi Worldbreaker. On raidbots you can only make a selection from the pre-built fight types, but in case you're running locally, you can build your own fights. The ones that are pre-built will cover most situations, especially when combined with the next option.\rPatchwerk: This is the default, a single target no adds no movement nothing special just kill the boss. A great baseline and when most people compare results this is what they\u2019re talking about. The casting variant of this fight will make the target cast abilities occasionally which may be desired for things like 세푸즈의 비밀\rHelter Skelter: Similar to patchwerk in that it\u2019s a single boss but this fight type adds interruptions to your damage windows. This includes getting stunned occasionally and a few movement windows.\rHectic Add Cleave: Similar to helter skelter with movement and interruptions to damage but also adds periodic spawning of extra targets.\rLight\/Heavy Movement: Exactly what it sounds like.\rTarget count: May also be called \u201cnumber of bosses.\u201d This is the number of targets that are up for the entire fight. Something like the Hellfire High Council from HFC, or the Illidari Council way back in Black Temple. When the extra targets are up for the entire fight this is what you\u2019d change. Default is set to 1.\rFight length: If you want to sim longer or shorter fights. Since few fights in WoW last for the same amount time, you can change it here. Thinking back to fights like the Butcher from Highmaul that had an enrage of 2 minutes, or something like Lei Shen which had a significantly longer one, you can see where changing this would be helpful. The default is 5 minutes. It\u2019s also worth noting that internally Simulationcraft will vary the fight length by 20% throughout its simulations. This means that with a default of 5 minutes it\u2019s actually simming fights of 4 to 6 minutes to make sure that the fight length isn\u2019t going to change the values too much. Fight length can be a topic of some debate but these defaults are fairly typical of encounters in WoW and make it easy to discuss sims with other players.\rPantheon trinkets: While specific to the Legion expansion it may be important to sim additional members in your raid using their pantheon trinkets such as 카즈고로스의 용기. Without this you wouldn\u2019t be able to get an accurate picture if you are using the trinkets from argus. This setting will ask you how many other people in the raid are using these trinkets. It\u2019s not a perfect example since it will assume they are using the wild card trinket 아만툴의 환영 but it is close enough. It can be helpful to ask your raid team for the right number to put in here although, most will be around the 15-20 range.\rConsumables: Raidbots allows you control over which flasks, food and potions you want to use for your sim. By default, raidbots will automatically select the one most appropriate for your class and spec, however if you want to change it (to compare consumables or because you use a different one) that option is available to you here.\rAPL: Action priority list. This is basically the way simulationcraft handles the rotation. It treats your rotation as a series of priorities and goes down the list until it finds something you can cast and then starts at the top again. The default one is usually the best and if you\u2019re curious about it you can always go ask the theorycrafters (TCs) for your class spec about it. They like to hang around on the class discords (usually). You can edit the priority lists but that\u2019s a much more advanced topic.\r\r\rMany of the options can be changed in any sim and it\u2019s always encouraged to play around with different sims to see what works best in many situations.

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Reneuld의 댓글

FakeGodz의 댓글

lol, i remember making a guide how to use Raidbot, before there's consumable \/ bloodlust options.I also remember how people mock me for making a guide for something as easy as this, xD

Though the guide here give more explanation on each function, mine's is just a quick sim 'yo self

Here it is : "Last edited january 11"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1kLnKaa1vnWkUL9Sy-2qYBq2JLJ-mZuY-eP_vclN4n7c\/edit?usp=sharing

I think you forgot to mention simc input. Which is very crucial for Top Gear function and the only way to get your netherlight crucible data, armory doesn't include Netherlight Crucible, which made sim in-accurate if you use armory import.

So yeah, simc input is important. :D

edit : you actually mentioned it, so nvm~

Kukaclol의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T03:39:00-05:00

Healers are not supported in SimulationCraft at this time. :(

Castrum의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T06:44:23-05:00

Why would you use Raidbot for simming? It's basically a SimC you have to queue for.

Aarkan의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T07:01:58-05:00

Why would you use Raidbot for simming? It's basically a SimC you have to queue for.\r\rBecause it's an easily accessible web based interface.

dorklogic의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T07:41:35-05:00

People don't want to install lil doodz from the internet on their WoW Terminals.

68doc의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T08:26:11-05:00

RaidBots is for someone who doesn't want to theory craft and just test their gear. SimC is for people who want to felly-theory craft their toons and be advanced. I don't have the time nor care to do that when there's sever who are and I can just pull from them and use RaidBots to narrow it down.

Winfree의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T08:31:53-05:00

Never even heard of raidbots til this topic. Heard of raider.io, warcraftlog, wowprogress but that one new to me.

lovelywaz의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T09:04:21-05:00

Never even heard of raidbots til this topic. Heard of raider.io, warcraftlog, wowprogress but that one new to me.\r\rThere used to be Mr.Robot (still is) before Raidbots. Not everyone is interested in max\/min their toon to do the most DPS theoretically possible.

Druffbaum의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T10:00:39-05:00

Why would you use Raidbot for simming? It's basically a SimC you have to queue for.

You can also use a combination of simpermut addon combined with SimC on your own pc, but the only upside of this is skipping the queue. On the other hand, there are several downsides to using SimC on your pc over Raidbots:- you need to keep your version updated all the time- big sims are waaaaaay slower on your own pc than running it through raidbots (even with a strong pc)- you need to save your sims manually. In Raidbots you always have a selection of your last sims.- Using SimC is more complicated than Raidbots

For me, the answer was clear: Since I sim a lot, I became a patreon for Raidbots ($3 per month) and basicly never have a queue + still have all the advantages over SimC.

68doc의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T10:02:40-05:00

Never even heard of raidbots til this topic. Heard of raider.io, warcraftlog, wowprogress but that one new to me.\r\rRaider.io, WClog, WoWprog have nothing to do with RaidBots. RB sims your gear to help you determine what's an upgrade; the other sites tell others what you've done and how "good" or "bad" you are.

Halgrimmdk의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T12:50:31-05:00

Sounds way too complicated to me - but I'm just used to Askmrrobot, which also values the non-equipped items in my bags.\rAm I doing it wrong?

perculia의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T13:02:39-05:00

Sounds way too complicated to me - but I'm just used to Askmrrobot, which also values the non-equipped items in my bags.\rAm I doing it wrong?\r\rRaidbots is a powerful tool that lets you get some quick results with a few buttons, but also allows for a lot of advanced functionality, which may be appealing to people interested in doing more research and simulations. Many of our guide writers use Raidbots as a tool when determining results, or actively work on Simcraft, which provides the calculations for Raidbots.

Druffbaum의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T14:41:38-05:00

Sounds way too complicated to me - but I'm just used to Askmrrobot, which also values the non-equipped items in my bags.\rAm I doing it wrong?\r\rYou can go to the "Top Gear" section in raidbots and check the pieces you want to take into account.

Winfree의 댓글

on 2018-05-22T19:11:18-05:00

Sounds way too complicated to me - but I'm just used to Askmrrobot, which also values the non-equipped items in my bags.\rAm I doing it wrong?\r\rRaidbots is a powerful tool that lets you get some quick results with a few buttons, but also allows for a lot of advanced functionality, which may be appealing to people interested in doing more research and simulations. Many of our guide writers use Raidbots as a tool when determining results, or actively work on Simcraft, which provides the calculations for Raidbots.\r\rIt's an interesting tool thank for putting it out there for those that didn't know about it like myself.

Castrum의 댓글

on 2018-05-23T00:09:27-05:00

Why would you use Raidbot for simming? It's basically a SimC you have to queue for.\r\rYou can also use a combination of simpermut addon combined with SimC on your own pc, but the only upside of this is skipping the queue. On the other hand, there are several downsides to using SimC on your pc over Raidbots:\r- you need to keep your version updated all the time\r- big sims are waaaaaay slower on your own pc than running it through raidbots (even with a strong pc)\r- you need to save your sims manually. In Raidbots you always have a selection of your last sims.\r- Using SimC is more complicated than Raidbots\r\rFor me, the answer was clear: Since I sim a lot, I became a patreon for Raidbots ($3 per month) and basicly never have a queue + still have all the advantages over SimC.\r\rSo basically it\u2019s for lazy plebs? Lul