I'm reporting success with this procedure on sulu-5.2.8.6, as follows:
* the zs001025.sfs file now contains, in addition to the initial drivers,
__java_jre1.7.0_45 and the qt-4.8.1 libraries;
* in lupu_devx_528-4.sfs, python-2.6 has been replaced with v. 3.3.2.

I prepared the substitute files in the Puppy it was intended for, but I had
to over-write the files in the sulu folder from another Puppy. Beforehand,
I also un-hooked the respective sfs's in the boot manager.

The Puppy boot process took a couple of seconds longer, but the changes
were not noticed. I tested a few java and Qt programs , and everything is
working fine.

Bad idea -let each one be in its' own. I use perl and python occasionally, but never qt nor java, etc.

Anything that needs such stuff should indicate that in some sort of requires=?? facility so the package manager can handle that. Or how about doing like Slackware and just include everything in a 'full' installation -then when someone has trouble because of something missing you simply scold them "You didn't do a full installation!"

I believe that python is not backward compatible (a la gtk).
You may want to add it instead of replacing it.

Thanks for the education , rerwin. Numerous python sites confirm this.
Would an update to Python to 2.7.5 be a safer alternative?

Or should v. 2.6 be left as is in the present devx, and a separate "big
serpents" sfs be made available containing versions 2.7.5 and 3.3.2?_________________musher0
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BK's well-researched suggestions are all fine and good. BaCon seems like
a good idea, but truth be told, what important and/or useful Vale/Genie
programs can a Puppy user use to his benefit? I mean: not next year,
but today! Kindly name a few!?

Bad idea -let each one be in its' own. I use perl and python occasionally, but never qt nor java, etc.

Anything that needs such stuff should indicate that in some sort of requires=?? facility so the package manager can handle that. Or how about doing like Slackware and just include everything in a 'full' installation -then when someone has trouble because of something missing you simply scold them "You didn't do a full installation!"

Hello, amigo.

So the Slackware people have a twisted sense of humor, eh!
I always thought they were rather stern.

On a serious note:
I agree that each user should be somewhat on his/her own to fulfill his/her
needs. However, in my mind anyway, inclusion by default of Qt and java
libraries can help bypass the glibc 2.11 limitation that exists in many
not-so-old Puppies.

Here's an example. (All examples are limited in some way or other, but still.)

Lots of people like to have some sort of inventory of this or that, so let's
pretend that a user wants to create collections using Puppy.

(S)he cannot run Tellico in Puppy because Puppy lacks not only the
required libraries, but its glibc is too low to support the libraries.

On the other hand, Datacrow will run if the user installs a recent java-jre.

Now, we should remember that both programs are majors in the field.

What do you think the user's reaction will be?

a - chuck Puppy and install a major distro, such as ubuntu, fedora, etc.,
that has all the libraries, in order to use Tellico?

b - stay with Puppy and install java and Datacrow?

If a Puppy-ready java package is readily available, I believe that the user
will continue with Puppy. That's my reasoning behind making java and qt
run-times more easily available.

... what important and/or useful Vale/Genie
programs can a Puppy user use to his benefit? I mean: not next year,
but today! Kindly name a few!?

The question was
which run-times could be needed
and not
name some "Vale/Genie" programs

If a developer would code a program using Vale/Genie then this would result in an executable file that does not need any run-time package.
In other words : there is no Vale/Genie user program, just a development program for the developer.

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