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Commento di TytheMainTainer

on 2017-11-17T13:02:02-06:00

incredibly lame prize, 2000 you can only spend at the university, which will probably have little direct benefit to the winner, and that would come in the long term form of reducing the amount of "school debt" take for example UCI the school listed here, is 30-40k for fall and spring, I've tried to image the shady idea of signing up for a course based on the most expensive text books or "course required" calculator as listed on the UCI theHill website, with the fraudulent intent, or returning those books after approaching the last day to drop cutoff, with unopened textbooks, while ignoring the college transcript implications, or the now taxable income which ill just ignore, all in the hope that the bursar office doesn't monitor the scholarship, or that the funds are not more than likely electronic, or the terms of the award are postdated, I can't even imagine the economic benefit, of asking your parents for a differential payment for saving them paying your tuition, after explaining that you earned said scholarship while playing video games instead of studying or chasing peach in college. this is not an award directed at the struggling college student working the late night job, this here is an illusory award, for a company to tickle its twitch traffic, wowhead sure likes to shill for companies. dollar dollar bills y'all

If this company offered a 100 dollar cash payment, and opened it up to the player base, I would have been more impressed,

Otherwise, yes, Incredibly Lame.

Commento di Glockthar

on 2017-11-17T14:00:15-06:00

incredibly lame prize\r\rYeah who likes scolership money, what good is an education anyway.

Commento di Swordart21

on 2017-11-17T15:03:07-06:00

TytheMainTainer incredibly lame comment for me it was intersting and fun in some moments i started wondering how some teams qualified since i saw attempt in maw of souls to get 50 deaths.

Commento di Aerensiniac

on 2017-11-17T16:29:16-06:00

Im still surprised that berkeley was not trying to shut down servers and the match in protest of some hate speech issue or just for the sake of virtue signalling.

Commento di Durantye

on 2017-11-17T18:45:02-06:00

incredibly lame prize, 2000 you can only spend at the university, which will probably have little direct benefit to the winner, and that would come in the long term form of reducing the amount of "school debt" take for example UCI the school listed here, is 30-40k for fall and spring, I've tried to image the shady idea of signing up for a course based on the most expensive text books or "course required" calculator as listed on the UCI theHill website, with the fraudulent intent, or returning those books after approaching the last day to drop cutoff, with unopened textbooks, while ignoring the college transcript implications, or the now taxable income which ill just ignore, all in the hope that the bursar office doesn't monitor the scholarship, or that the funds are not more than likely electronic, or the terms of the award are postdated, I can't even imagine the economic benefit, of asking your parents for a differential payment for saving them paying your tuition, after explaining that you earned said scholarship while playing video games instead of studying or chasing peach in college. this is not an award directed at the struggling college student working the late night job, this here is an illusory award, for a company to tickle its twitch traffic, wowhead sure likes to shill for companies. dollar dollar bills y'all \r\rIf this company offered a 100 dollar cash payment, and opened it up to the player base, I would have been more impressed, \r\rOtherwise, yes, Incredibly Lame.\r\rTytheMainTainer you have no idea what you're talking about, as a player in the UCI team I can assure you ALL of us were happy to get the reward and it will help us a significant amount. I can also assure you that it costs me roughly 12k for both semesters including books, fees, tuition, food, and many other tiny expenses. You're likely looking at out-of-state costs and including things like housing and absolutely everything in your cost to reach 40k per 2 semesters. Also out-of-state tuition is there specifically to make it where one state doesn't spend a $%^& ton of money on uni education and become THE education state, there are many options to help students who are determined to go to out-of-state universities such as gold scholarships to offset the out-of-state cost.\r\rYou also can't get an accurate read on text book costs at all unless you're specifically enrolled, some of the classes have 'recommended' books that are not at all required, many teachers will even supply the books for free or tell you not to get them at all. The extremely expensive books almost always come from upper level courses that you don't have to take very many of. Sure texts are obscenely expensive I won't deny that, but you're making a mountain out of a molehill here, I have also never in my life had an issue with renting books or even returning them if I am able to tell we wont' use a text book at all. Also the tax on our winnings is negligible, in fact some of us will have to pay no tax on it at all.\r\rThe prize money directly benefits us because we will be getting 1k+ extra from our returns for 2 semesters, that is a LOT of extra money each semester for a college student, that is more than enough for all the text books you will need and even enough to significantly raise the quality of your food for the entire semester.\r\rAnother thing is this was a TESPA tournament, not a Blizzard one, TESPA is an organization specifically aimed at creating tournaments for college students to participate in, Blizzard just helped with it.\r\rMany students don't get money from their parents as well, in fact of our entire team only 2 get money from their parents directly to pay for anything, so that parent comment is also null.\r\rMy entire family was ecstatic when I told them about the tournament and when I told them I had won they were even more so. Not every parent is a completely close minded person that thinks video games are the devil, also I don't know a single parent in the universe that I would respect if they thought a kid winning money from a tournament to be less respectable than 'chasing peach' as you so eloquently put it.\r\rThis money helped one of my teammates out immensely considering he is 100% on his own with his education after having personal issues in his life and you downplaying that is frankly very insulting.\r\r'This company' being Blizzard DID offer an open tournament, it was called the MDI and the winning team got 50k divided among them.

Commento di TytheMainTainer

on 2017-11-20T12:21:06-06:00

Dear Durantye:

First off, Congratulations on your in game success. Also, I rarely take the time to respond or follow up on comments, but your message made me feel a little concern for you.

I\u2019d like to begin with, not saying or talking about, but writing since this is a comment, that in no way was I attacking you\/your team\/ or the other participants.

My point was and remains, the prize, not reward, is incredibly Lame.

Naturally, the winners would feel \u201chappy\u201d, and thank you for the assurance. However, it concerns me that you feel this \u201creward\u201d will \u201chelp us a significant amount\u201d.

Thank you for writing an entire paragraph on my statement of your school debt being around 30-40k. However, these values are directly from the school\u2019s website, and no, I wasn\u2019t including out-of-state tuition in the range; because the upper limit, of the general range provided, would increase greatly. I\u2019m a bit confused why you went on to explain out-of-state tuition, or why you felt the need to write a full paragraph on text books cost.

I can only conclude that you missed the point entirely in my reference to expensive text books. The text book cost was concerning how to fraudulent flip a paltry prize at its upper bounds, the amount for you and your friends, not even the minuscule amount to the lower winner, into Cash. Naturally, my reference in return the books, and negative transcript implications, was based on the time of returning the items, in evading detection of said fraudulent action. What I wasn\u2019t proposing was sitting down in the first week, reviewing a syllabus in class, and returning a simple textbook.

Again, not an attack on the participants, but from reading of your comment, that the prize is split over two semesters frankly makes the winnings even more lame. I won\u2019t even comment about how sad I find your statement that these winnings will \u201csignificantly raise the quality of your food for the entire semester\u201d, other than to write, this is deeply heartbreaking.

As I initially wrote to comment on the prize, I found the prize lacking in value based on past winnings in different contests. Even you responded with an example of MDI dividing 50k among past winners in a single contest. Even though I\u2019m highly interested in this game for entertainment, I don\u2019t feel that every story that wowhead promotes is newsworthy, or worthy of praise. Tespa is not just an organization; it\u2019s a company, which at one time held good standings in Texas. They don\u2019t host these events for goodwill; it\u2019s in an effort to make money. How they gave your winnings reflects not poorly on you, but how they choose to balance their books. And I\u2019m not going to write more about Tespa or my disappoint in wowhead, as that\u2019s not my reason in responding to you, here in my ramblings, train of thought, off the cuff remarks again about Tespa trivial prize or wowhead lack of journalist integrity that is already too long.

I chose to respond, because you wrote this as some form of return, and you felt this was in any way significant.

Again, congratulations. But it\u2019s time to evaluate some life choices, if you felt this prize was significant. First off, you are in college, and to be successful in college you really need to understand the demands on your time. Many people feel that attending class is your primary responsibility while going to college, they are dead wrong. Going to class, is one of your two major part time jobs, the other being a paying job, which I suggest you find.

You and I are here on this website, because we understand just going and participating in something is not enough. To be good or simply improving takes more effort; the same is true for anything. So attending class, is just a part time job, the real work in school comes from the labor of reviewing material in your field, and beginning to network among your peers. And I hope you are doing this, because someone is, and they are going to be rewarded more than a measly amount. You have to learn how to value your time.

And I understand the entire argument; this is a game, its entertainment, or the secondary argument, its free money for doing what I love. But, it\u2019s not a real return, nor should it be thought of as significant.

I just cherry picked the druid from your group. Almost 2,100 mythic plus successful runs; ninety successful Gul\u2019dan attempts(I\u2019ll assume these are sells, which contribute even more time to finding buyers on top of the time to kill); and then I\u2019ll factor the Cutting edge as an allotment of time. Not even factoring the amount of unsuccessful attempts which is unknown, or the arguments, its entertainment, or doing something I love, seeing just these numbers and estimating low amounts of time spent on each, or 100% successful pulls, do you realize how little financially this prize means, or should mean compared to the amount of time spent just within these two areas.

I can\u2019t even begin to image how sad a life it must be to write about significantly raising the quality of food for an entire semester in a counter to how wrong I am.

I can\u2019t help but feel sad for you, and that\u2019s from somebody that deeply enjoys your hobby.

Commento di Durantye

on 2017-11-29T03:36:53-06:00

Dear Tythemaintainer,\r\rNone of us pay this 30-40k figure you have pulled out of thin air, at all, not even close. Our entire year including all necessities doesn't even add up to that. I wrote those because either you know nothing about what you're talking about, or you have no experience outside your small circle.\r\rThe quality of food comment was an example of how things can improve with this money, it was not the 'sole' thing it would do, how you were incapable of seeing such an obvious thing is beyond me.\r\rUnfortunately I care not for how you view TESPA, we paid exactly 0$ and got free money out of the tournament, it is a WoW tournament which has very low turnout rates in the first place and a collegiate one at that, I'm not sure why you would expect it to pay as much as the world wide MDI which was sponsored by Blizzard themselves. If they are a company and that kind of counteracts your own point because they wouldn't pay more than they would stand to make and WoW tournaments don't make much money.\r\rOn your life advice section: Thanks but no thanks of all the people I want giving me advice you're probably among the lowest on the list. I am current working on campus and going through the hoops in hopes of being able to become a grad student and pursue even further education. So your advice while sweet and condescending, I can assure you wholeheartedly it was completely unneeded and useless.\r\rSecond, I can assure you our time spent on this tournament was very well weighed, we spent less than 20 hours total preparing for this tournament. Yes many of our members have played the game at a high level for a while, the druid you picked is the one who benefited most from this, his 2100 mythic+ over half of which were 5 minute maw of soul runs from pre-ToS, and on the gul'dan kills, I'm sure you are aware of how the currency of which he gained from those can be exchanged for goods and services themselves. I'm not sure how the fact we play the game at a high level and dedicate time to CE raiding is factored in, obviously that isn't considered an investment into the tournament any more than you would consider your 15+ years of schooling before your career to reduce how much you make at a current job, that would be ludicrous. I can also assure you however much time you think we sink into the game it is much less than you believe.\r\rAgain though 2 of our members don't even play the game at any level, 1 is a casual, and 3 of us are high level players that saw an opportunity for free money. 2k for less than 20 hours total including practice time and time spent during matches, I would say we did pretty well considering we aren't at all trying to become pros, but we did take an opportunity that was presented to us to assist our schooling.\r\rI can't even begin to imagine how sad a life one must live to think their googlefoo and completely wrong understanding of how life works comes to believe they have a high ground of any sorts to offer advice to the people with proven success so far in their lives, whereas you make angry and unnecessary remarks about things you have no idea about on the internet.