Comments on: NYPD Cops Demand the Right To Be Corrupthttp://www.theagitator.com/2011/10/29/nypd-cops-demand-the-right-to-be-corrupt/
It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:59:44 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7By: Peter Raminshttp://www.theagitator.com/2011/10/29/nypd-cops-demand-the-right-to-be-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-3592889
Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:29:12 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-3592889It’s heartening to see people protesting *inside* a courthouse and not getting truncheoned, pepper-sprayed, neck-booted, tazered, or shot.

Oh, they were cops?

Oh.

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Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:47:20 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-3588855[…] Oh, now we’re not supposed to use our discretion in handling parking tickets any more? Well, maybe we’ll use it by not coming to your accident scene, […]
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Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:08:36 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-2015413[…] Cage ‘Em” t-shirts from a California law enforcement union [Radley Balko] From the same source, “NYPD cops demand the right to be corrupt.” And on Friday at Cato at Liberty, I gave […]
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:05:30 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1948714Ken, I believe setting up booby traps of any kind is generally prosecuted as attempted murder, and will result in 1st degree charges if a death results in it. I imagine a similar standard would be applied to razor cameras if they were to slice any delicate piggy digits.

“Your honor, when reporter X affixed the weapon to the front of his camera, he knew full well that officers would attempt to block the device from filming his co-conspirators fellow officers, and as such commited assault with a deadly weapon”

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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:44:48 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1948098Ticket fixing is just one of the benefits of the badge. Having the PBA back up the practice just points up their own corruption.
As was documented by Serpico and others in the cop field, after ticket fixing then you move up to cleaning up money found on a an arrestee. Put a couple stray dollars in your pocket; I mean, is the arrestee going to file theft charges against you? And you know the PBA will back up a fellow cop versus some low-life drug dealer. (Since practically any non-connected citizen is a low-life.)
Move on up to petty theft during a traffic stop. Honestly, does anyone believe that when a cop searches a car and finds several thousand dollars of “suspected” money, that the cops count every dollar and turn it over to the asset forfeiture guys? It isn’t really theft, just sort of a commission for turning over any money at all. If anyone raises a stink about missing money, its the cop and the PBA lawyer against some out-of-towner. Who is the friendly local judge going to believe?
One of the really corrupt practices are the PBA fund raising calls where they want you to “donate” so you get a sticker on your car that you support local police. Sort of implied, maybe if they stop you and you have a sticker, they’ll extend professional courtesy and not write you a ticket.
Plenty of folks must believe that nonsense, because I see those stickers everywhere.
How’s that new professionalism working out for you, Scalia?
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:38:10 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1947145[…] NYPD Cops Demand the Right To Be Corrupt Again, WHOM do you (allegedly) protect and serve? View the discussion thread. Phssthpok's blog […]
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Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:13:48 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1945826Photographers should start strapping razor blades to the front of their lenses. Let the cops reach out and shove that away with their hand.
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Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:52:52 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1945149Where is Serpico when you need him?
]]>By: supercathttp://www.theagitator.com/2011/10/29/nypd-cops-demand-the-right-to-be-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1944154
Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:16:25 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1944154I tend to believe that feedback patterns tend to be accurate predictors of behavior. People who can to expect get away with doing something which is wrong, but which benefits them, are likely to do so. When people do something wrong, it’s important that they be punished not so much because punishing them for behavior already committed will affect their future behavior, but rather because it is important that anyone considering doing something wrong have an expectation of punishment. One major problem with some simplistic cost-benefit analysis in issues of criminal prosecution is that it merely focuses on the effect of punishment on someone who’s committed a crime, rather than on the expectations such punishment or non-punishment will create in others.

If one could rely upon benign dictators to remain benign, secrecy regarding punishments or lack thereof would actually be a good thing. Punishing people is expensive, both in terms of direct cost (e.g. cost to imprison them) and also in terms of opportunity cost (persons in prison can’t very well make money and pay taxes on it). In some cases, it’s necessary to keep people locked up because that’s the only way to prevent them from harming others. Often, however, if a benign dictator could let people escape punishment while successfully making everyone believe that those people had been punished, that would actually be better for everyone concerned. Of course, from a practical perspective that would be difficult to achieve even with the most benign dictator. Further, giving rulers the power to secretly and unexpectedly grant leniency also gives them the power to selectively exempt their friends from laws which apply to everyone else.

The “Wheel” in “Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome” might seem an insane way to dispense “justice”, but it would probably be more effective than it might appear. One major problem with most punishments is that they can effectively destroy the life of those who might otherwise be productive members of society, without substantially deterring those who wouldn’t. If, instead of being thrown in jail for a six months, a person had to spin a wheel with a 90% chance of being let go and a 10% chance of being locked up for five years’ solitary confinement, facing the wheel would for many people be a stronger deterrent than would six months in jail, but 90% of otherwise-productive convicts would avoid having their lives destroyed.

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Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:07:26 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1943119[…] On the east coast, cops admit that corruption is a perk of their jobs, and get all indignant about being prosecuted. […]
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Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:14:51 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1940213See also: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/23
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Sun, 30 Oct 2011 01:15:14 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1939321Is it too much to hope that Tony Baloney is one of the indicted?

Re: Roy, #5:

I know you meant racketeering, but that typo is funny. Illegal use of rockets is something for the FAA to regulate, not the FBI. Though I suppose, given how the NYPD claims to be able to shoot down aircraft, it’s possible they do have rockets.

]]>By: Mariohttp://www.theagitator.com/2011/10/29/nypd-cops-demand-the-right-to-be-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1939224
Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:39:58 +0000http://www.theagitator.com/?p=22561#comment-1939224Funny, the reporters who were blocked and in some cases pushed by police were “just doing their jobs”; after all, they were “just following orders” given by their editors. Couldn’t the cops have shown a little “courtesy”?
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