If Bj's strategy was to get punched in the face repeatedly, out wrestled to trick George in putting BJ on his back in the fourth round after 20 minutes of activity, where BJ has never subbed anyone in MMA.

Triangle chokes don't apply pressure to the back, just the neck. The rubber guard aspect I also considered when it happened, but after playing with a bit during jits class, I believe a greased back wouldn't strongly affect a rubber guard.

The only situation I can imagine having an impact with with GSP standing and BJ hanging onto his back. But that's an extremely rare situation and not one that would really influence the fight.

Your argument is stupid because you are wanting us to believe he cheated in a way that likely wouldn't actually help him win. That's like writing your math notes on your arm when you go into an English exam. It would take an icnredibly stupid person to try cheating in a way that doesn't actually help them.

4) Find the original comments by Dana. I saw them and posted it (youtube as I recall) and compare those comments (something like "Fucking cheating bullshit,") to his $$$$$$$ influenced comments he made the next day that whitewashed the issue.

Let me know when the UFC gives BJ Penn the win and makes GSP hand over the win purse.

Oh no, that was my point. Dana was flipped out pissed, then later whitewashed the whole issue. Money talks etc

Originally Posted by Goju - Joe

Even if it had an effect you would have to prove that it was intentional.

That would be like trying to prove BJ intentionally poked GSP in the eye in the first fight - an illegal move that had a much greater impact BTW.

True, and I don't expect anything, just trying for honesty.

To me honesty is where it's at. When I was 19 a cop hassled me. Thirty years later he was retired and at a restaurant he was being congratulated and I went up and said that he might have been a good cop, but the only time he dealt with me he was an abusive hippie hating jerk. Call a spade a spade.

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